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BluesRockerit's intel 536ep modem12:00
cheezeewhy? .13 is so beautiful12:00
eyequeuehooligan:  thank YOU for doing the installfest :)12:00
Burgundaviacheezee, .13 has not been released yet12:01
eyequeuecheezee:  it needs to be thoroughly tested agsinst everything else to be a default kernel ... all architechtures and such ... if .13 has something important, it might go in, or have that driver/feature backported to .12 i guess12:01
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Burgundaviaeyequeue, I seriously doubt it, but little things might go in12:02
eyequeuecheezee:  basically the point is "well-tested on everything" so that "it just works" for newbies, etc12:02
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eyequeueBurgundavia:  yeah, i'm thinking of something like a common onboard laptop wofi driver (like my ipw2200, which is already supported, but the only example i have handy)12:03
cheezeeeyequeue: thanks.. i understand12:03
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Burgundaviaeyequeue, yes drivers != core kernel features12:03
eyequeues/wofi/wifi/12:04
eyequeuei'm sort of hoping any new features will be in 2.7 not 2.6 (if ever we get a 2.7, heh)12:04
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airmikeychecking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables12:05
airmikeyi get that when i do....../configure12:06
eyequeueairmikey:  try "sudo apt-get install build-essential" first12:06
Burgundaviaairmikey, do you have build-essential installed?12:06
Burgundaviaairmikey, by default, no compilers are installed12:06
airmikeylet me see12:06
airmikeyok12:06
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mirakhi12:08
benplauthi12:08
mirakanyone is good with DVD's ?12:08
concept10Anyone have experience with Mambo?12:08
mirakI got a problem reading with xine a dvd that I made12:08
benplauti'm good with frisbie'ing them :)12:08
airmikeythx guys loading build- essential12:09
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airmikeyconfigure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm12:11
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D1-how do I remove unwanted modules from loading at startup?12:14
Seveazadd them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist12:14
mweairmikey, maybe you need xlibs-dev12:14
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airmikeyill try that12:15
thespiritoftalhow can i update firefox?12:15
Seveasthespiritoftal, why would you want that?12:16
SeveasUbuntu's firefix is the most recent available...12:16
Seveasfirefox even12:16
thespiritoftalbut when I open the extensions site it says new update is avaliable12:16
Seveasthespiritoftal: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.412:16
airmikeymwe: that was it ...right on12:17
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jasoncohenthenostradamus, that's because ubuntu backported the security fixes from 1.0.4 so your firefox is still showing as 1.0.212:17
thespiritoftalsry didnt understand what you mean12:17
concept10I am trying to make a server, how do I make sure to install php 4.2.x?12:17
Seveasconcept10, you can't afaik12:17
gbicI think youll want 4.3*12:17
Seveasnot from the repositories at least12:17
Seveasbut yeah, why specifically 4.2.x?12:18
gbicdid he say he was building an insecure server ?12:18
gbic:)12:18
concept10actually +> 4.2.x12:18
concept10=>12:18
Seveas:)12:18
concept10heh12:18
Seveasaptitude install libapache2-mod-php412:18
concept10Seveas, you have any experience with mambo CMS?12:19
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Seveasnot at all12:19
mark__hello12:19
concept10k12:20
SeveasI've written my own cms-like thing :)12:20
mark__i got a question bout kubuntu on a g312:20
gbicseveas, youre pretty familiar ith php?12:20
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gbicwith*12:20
mark__i got a question bout kubuntu on a g312:20
unomeapt-get install php4 php4-mysql  |  apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4 <- would that work Seveas?12:20
naliothmark__: ask12:21
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mark__it starts booting from the cd but yaboot cant find a kernel12:21
Seveasunome, almost12:21
Seveasgbic, sort of :)12:21
mark__its trying to get it from the hdd12:21
unomeok, apachectl restart BAM!12:21
gbicmind if I pm ya quickly12:21
Seveasnot at all12:22
gbicjsut a question to see if I should bother with this or not12:22
rtatecan anyone help me with amarok?12:22
mark__the current drive in it is a old windows drive12:22
sobralenseis k3b the most complete interface for burnning cds?12:22
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Seveassobralense, they say so12:22
unomek3b rawks :)12:22
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Seveasit's such a pity that it's a KrapDE program12:23
mark__so it does not have any linux partitions on it12:23
rtateim not getting any sound coming out, and when i hit play it does nothing12:23
unome:(12:23
sobralenseI'm trying some differents here..12:23
concept10what package do I need to install mysql? common, server?12:23
Seveasserver12:23
sobralenseSeveas, the only negative point.. =] 12:23
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naliothmark__: is the cd good?12:23
gbicdepends on your usage concept12:23
gbicyou probably would need client and server12:23
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naliothmark__: did you run a md5 checksum on the kubuntu cd?12:24
mark__nope12:24
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JoslynHi12:24
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naliothmark__: the problem lies either in the cd or the cd drive12:25
mark__i just D/L the iso12:25
JoslynHow do I make polypaudio to use ALSA dmix?12:25
naliothmark__: use your md5 checksums12:25
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mark__u think i should just brun it again12:26
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freddyyes brun it again12:26
naliothmark__: check the integrity of the iso image12:26
concept10how do I ensure that MySQL, XML and Zlib support built into PHP>12:26
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budluvaconcept10, what are you trying to do if you dont mind me asking?12:27
budluvaconcept10, run a webserver?12:27
mark__why is yaboot trying to boot from disk00 partition 2 to begin with12:27
Seveasconcept10, xml is by default, zlib too12:27
Seveasfor mysql: aptitude install php4-mysql12:27
concept10Yes, I am trying to setup a Mambo CMS server12:27
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naliothmark__: i have 0 idea, if you want to d/l something else, d/l the ubuntu installer12:28
sam_hey everybody. i have a quick question about installing ubuntu. i want to install /home and /usr on one partition, and / and the rest on another. is this possible in any way?12:28
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naliothsam_: sure thing12:28
Seveassam_, no12:28
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sam_nalioth: how?12:28
Seveasnalioth, 2 distinct subdirs on 1 partition?12:28
mark__the installer is what i got not the live cd12:29
naliothSeveas: sam fstab will fix that i believe12:29
hosleri cant get sound to work with mplayer. someone help me please.12:29
Seveasnalioth, 2 folders on 1 partition...?12:29
naliothmark__: the kubuntu or ubuntu install cd? (md5 check you iso image)12:29
Seveassam_, there's one thing that might work: mount one partition under /home12:29
naliothSeveas: why not?12:29
mark__thanks12:29
Seveasmove /usr to /home/usr12:29
mark__ill try12:29
Seveasand ln -s /home/usr /usr12:29
mirakwich gnome app can burn dvd's with more options than Nautilus ?12:29
Seveasbut this is icky :)12:30
sam_nalioth: im a noob when it comes to linux. how do i use fstab with the ubuntu installer? as far as i can remember it only handles one command and thats "server"12:30
naliothSeveas: why not do what he wants with "ln"?12:30
hoslerWhat is the gnome application that is a docker that looks like the docker in mac os X?12:30
Seveasnalioth, just typed that out :D12:30
naliothsam_: you'll have to install it first, afaik, then do your partition dancing12:30
eyequeuewhat is a docker?12:30
naliothSeveas: but he shoulnt need to mount in his homedir12:30
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hoslerIts a thing that holds all your application links on your desktop12:31
eyequeuegnome-panel then?12:31
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Seveasnalioth, i meant:   /dev/hdx    /   ext3       and /dev/hdy     /home    ext312:31
naliothhosler: you are talking about superkaramba12:31
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naliothSeveas: i missed it, and i'm sure he did too12:31
naliothSeveas: you robot you12:32
Seveas:)12:32
sam_nalioth: so, i could just "move" /usr to another parition right now? how do i do that? (sorry if im being really noob :D )12:32
naliothsam_: are you installed now?12:32
Seveasrobot is going to hibernate, have to get up for a job interview in 6 1/2 hours :)12:32
sam_yea syre12:32
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sam_nalioth: yes12:32
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eyequeueSeveas:  good luck12:32
nalioththen yes, you can start your linking12:32
clainti got glxgears working ok when i am root. but when i try to run it as a regular user, i get libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted); libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and then it segfaults. is there a permission error somewhere? anyone know the fix?12:33
sam_ok... so, how do i do that12:33
naliothSeveas: doesnt need luck, he's a machine12:33
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davidmccabeHey folks. I have searched but have not found a package containing nvidia-settings. Any pointers? Thanks!12:33
MikeStyleis there a channel for kde users? or is it ubuntu12:33
naliothsam_: lets move over to ##apple12:33
davidmccabeMikeStyle: #kde? #kubuntu?12:34
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naliothMikeStyle: #kubuntu12:34
MikeStylek12:34
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LokeDKAfter a crash, I had to push on the reboot button.. but now, when I insert a cd-rom, it doesn't mount or anything12:34
rtatecan anyone help me with amarock12:34
rtateoops amarok12:34
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freddyamarok?12:35
freddywhat is that?12:35
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rtatemusic player12:35
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hoslerI cant get any sound to work when I try to play dvds with mplayer? Totum wont play dvds at all.12:36
eyequeuertate:  i know nothing about it, but perhaps a specific question might get a response from someone12:36
clainti got glxgears working ok when i am root. but when i try to run it as a regular user, i get libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted); libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and then it segfaults. is there a permission error somewhere? anyone know the fix?12:36
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hoslernalioth: superkaramba is for kde not gnome.12:37
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naliothhosler: but it will run under gnome, and there is a "OSX dock" superkaramba widget12:37
chezanyone have ideas as to why I can't write to my pendrive?12:38
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hoslerok12:38
snatchwell im not getting any sound out of it12:38
davidmccabeanyways, the wiki seems to refer to an nvidia-settings package, but I don't have it here. I have universe and multiverse enabled.12:38
davidmccabepointers?12:38
D33Hey... How do I format a HD in linux?12:38
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davidmccabeD33: cfdisk12:39
eyequeuechez:  is it both mounted and mounted rw?  i don't have one, so it's only a guess12:39
davidmccabeD33: plus mkxxxfs where xxx is the filesystem you want.12:39
eyequeueD33:  mkfs, probably12:39
davidmccabeD33: tldp.org may have pointers.12:39
mwemkfs.filesystem12:39
chezeyequeue: hello again! it mounts okay - I can read from it I just can't from it12:40
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chez*to it12:40
eyequeuedavidmccabe:  that would probably be in 'restricted' i'd think12:40
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davidmccabeeyequeue: I have several other nvidia packages in restricted, but not nvidia-settings.12:40
davidmccabeeyequeue: which is very strange, you know?12:40
eyequeuechez:  yeah, that's what made me think of rw, though i know nothing of pendrives really12:41
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eyequeuedavidmccabe:  yeah, agreed.  i'm fortunate not to have any hardware that needs restricted here12:41
m0biu5Would anyone be willing to try to help me get my laptops sound working?12:41
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krodhello, i need help getting my belkin pci wireless card to work with ubuntu12:41
davidmccabeeyequeue: ATI?12:41
eyequeuedavidmccabe:  no12:41
davidmccabeeyequeue: ah.12:41
davidmccabeeyequeue: because I'm curious; most of what I hear about the state of ATI drivers in ambiguous.12:42
ymeehi all, I have two drives in my system. one has the OS on it,the other is also formatted and partitioned, I want to reformat it with only one partition, how do i do that?12:42
eyequeuedavidmccabe:  the laptop has onboard video, an intel chipset iirc12:42
davidmccabeah.12:42
hooliganemailed mako, thanks all12:42
gtadaI have a Netgear MA401 (Prism chipset) and Hoary. I was wondering if it's possible to get WPA working?12:42
krodanyone know how to get wireless working?12:42
eyequeuehooligan:  good luck with the installfest, they can be fun (and sometimes a headache, heh)12:42
mweymee, you want to repartion I take it. I use cfdisk12:42
ymeeis there any graphical utility for Ubuntu that lets you view drives and partitions and lets you format drives?12:42
chezeyequeue: yeah thats what I thought but I can't chmid it even as root12:43
z|banditoif someone downloads this torrent, does it find any peers?  http://ayakonix.dyndns.org:3001/earth2willi/music/novaluna/1-the-phunky-troll.mp3.torrent12:43
z|banditoit should be working but i can't see any peers here for some reason12:43
Kyralymee, filelight12:43
z|banditoit's a legal download btw12:43
Kyralwell, not format12:43
eyequeuechez:  is the thing self-mounting when you plug it in?12:43
chezeyequeue: yep12:43
rasputnikymee: you want a parted frontend,  try 'sudo apt-cache search parted'12:43
bimberiymee: gparted12:43
mweqtparted12:44
rasputnikymee: but I don't think they'll let you merge two partitions without losing the data on them12:44
eyequeuechez:  hmmm, i wonder if you have to feed some value to a config file somewhere, maybe hotplug?  someone who knows more will have to help on this one, sorry12:44
ymeebimberi gparted isnt showing up in my install..12:44
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ymeecan i do an apt-get on gparted?12:44
bimberiymee: It's in the "universe" repository12:44
jasoncohenis anyone using the colony 2 breezy CD? how is it stability wise compared to sid?12:44
hoslernalioth: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:45
gtadaHow can I tell what driver my wireless card is using?12:45
eyequeueymee:  gparted is handy with gnome, qtparted is handy with kde/kubuntu12:45
hoslerI get that when i try to configure it12:45
chezeyequeue: no worries you've heped me enough today :) - weird thing is it show rwx for the owner which is my user account, but when iright click > proprties it says that I cannot chnaged properties as I don't won the file. But I do12:45
nalioths_doghosler, do you have "build-essential" installed?12:45
eyequeuegtada:  dmesg?12:45
ymeesweet gparted looks good12:45
chezeyequeue: I will ask again tomorrow anyway12:45
hoslernalioths_dog: how do i check?12:45
gtadaWhoa thanks eyequeue12:46
mwethe qtparted partition table always extends way past my screen edge :)12:46
nalioths_doghosler, open a terminal and type "which gcc"12:46
eyequeuegtada:  np12:46
hoslernalioths_dog: /usr/bin/gcc12:46
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ymeewhat do i do to make the newly formatted disk show up in my filemanager?12:47
mwemount it12:47
ymeedo I have to manually mount it?12:47
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hoslernalioths_dog: wait. I dont have it. Im installing it now.12:47
lukus001My graphic drivers arnt installing properly, i-m install nvidia drivers but im experincing the same problems (glitches and graphical crashes) that i has on my ubuntu 64 bit version before i installed the drivers12:47
nalioths_doghosler, you'll be good to  go then12:47
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lukus001any know how to fix a buggy nvidia 32 bit?12:48
bimberiymee: to mount it at boot time add an entry to /etc/fstab12:48
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weanerhi, how can I get dhcp to work on startup with wlan0?12:48
gtadaIt seems like I'm using the orinoco driver for my ma401. It's a prism2 chipset, and I have upgraded the firmware to support WPA. However, I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work.12:49
mweweaner, edit /etc/network/interfaces12:49
gtadaI believe the ndiswrapper driver will work, but how do I switch drivers?12:49
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weanermwe, tried that but it doesn't work, run iwconfig wlan0 and there is nothing there12:49
gtadaeyequeue, if you have any tips, I'd love to hear :D12:50
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LokeDKAfter a reboot with the reboot button, ubuntu can no longer detect cd's in my burner and cd-rom drive12:50
weanerhowever, iwconfig essid, mode, key then dhcpclient will connect me12:50
mweweaner, you need to put that info into interfaces as well12:51
nalioths_dogLokeDK, have you restarted normally?12:51
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LokeDKnalioths_dog, yes12:51
mweweaner, wireless-essid, wireles-key etc12:51
D33What was the command to see my partitions?12:51
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weanermwe, done that too :(12:51
LokeDKand it says /dev/hdd no such file or directory or something like that under boot..12:51
LokeDKwhich is/was my burner12:51
mweweaner, does ifup/ifdown wlan0 work12:52
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bimberiD33: df12:52
weaneryes and no, ifup wlan0 tells me is already set12:53
nalioths_dogLokeDK, have you opened Device Manager and had a look?12:53
LokeDKI just did now.. they're there12:53
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LokeDKIDE device (master) PLEXTOR CD-ROM blabla.. IDE device (slave) OPTORITECD-RW blabla12:53
mweweaner, so it tries to bring up wlan0 at boot time?12:54
nalioths_dogLokeDK, and you can put a cd in it and nothing happens?12:54
LokeDKyeah12:54
weanermwe, i think so but i cannot be sure, i'm guessing it's something simple that I have missed12:55
bimberiD33: Sorry "sudo fdisk -l" might be what you what you wanted12:55
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benplaut12:55
mweweaner, eg you have auto wlan0 at the top of the interfaces file?12:55
benplautoops12:55
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benplauthehe... didn't know i could do that :)12:55
nalioths_dogLokeDK, how bout a blank cd-r?12:56
guatenaishello12:56
benplauthi12:56
guatenaissomebody can help me12:56
LokeDKjust a se12:56
LokeDKc12:56
freddywith?12:56
benplautdon't ask to ask, just ask ;)12:56
mweheh12:56
guatenaishi somebody can help me12:56
LokeDKhmm my burner works12:57
benplautask away...12:57
LokeDKbut not the cd-rom drive12:57
mweguatenais, hard to tell without a question12:57
weanermwe, no it's auto lo12:57
freddyguatenais, ASKKK!K!K!K!K!K!!!!12:57
guatenaisi need help12:57
guatenaiscan you install skype12:57
airmikeyhow do i fix broken packages12:57
nalioths_dogLokeDK, put an audio cd or dvd in it, and bring up vlc or xine12:57
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gtadaDoes anybody have experience with the ndiswrapper?12:57
freddyguatenais, i think you are messing with us12:57
freddygtada, yes12:57
benplautquatenais12:57
mweweaner, you need auto wlan0 too12:57
mweweaner, what did ifup wlan0 tell you ?12:58
guatenaisyes12:58
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benplautdid you enable the "universe" repositories?12:58
we2byhow do u burn .cue and .bin iamge file?12:58
we2byimage*12:58
moparfan90anyone know a xbox live subsitution???12:58
weanermwe, thanks for the info. i'll change the interfaces doc and reboot12:58
nightswimwe2by: bchunk12:58
gtadafreddy: I want to use ndiswrapper with my netgear card, but I think it's using the orinoco driver12:59
gtadaHow do I make it use ndiswrapper?12:59
lsuactiafner!repository12:59
ubotuNo idea, lsuactiafner12:59
LokeDKnalioths_dog, weird.. the burner detects ALL cd's as Blank cd's.. and the cd-rom doesn't detect anything at all12:59
freddygtada, ok i gad a problem now im gonna give you exactly what i used for my card12:59
benplautguatenais: follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype12:59
guatenaisthanks12:59
nalioths_dogLokeDK, so xine or vlc won't open content discs?01:00
lsuactiafnerbenplaut : add the line universe behind multiverse and some other lines in /etc/apt/sources.list01:00
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hoslernalioths_dog: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!01:00
we2bynightswim, what do I add for basename?01:00
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LokeDKnalioths_dog, nope01:00
benplautlsuactiafner: i have it working, it's guatenais who needed help ;)01:00
nightswimwe2by: whatever you want the iso to be called :)01:00
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lsuactiafnerlol01:01
LokeDKand gnome just shows Blank CD-R Disc01:01
feldanyone here running breezy01:01
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lsuactiafneram not payin attentiion01:01
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lsuactiafnereatin kornflakes before bed01:01
guatenaisthank's benplaut01:01
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we2bycool01:01
robin_zis this a good place to ask debian questions?01:01
benplaut'welcome :)01:02
freddygtada, you there?01:02
eyequeuerobin_z:  #debian01:02
Ange1hi.. . i 've installed 5.04 version (my first linux install) and im looking for lyx or another lattex editor01:02
gtadaYep01:02
freddythis IS what you have to do01:02
freddytheres nothing to do01:02
freddyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto01:02
we2bycool01:02
gtadaThanks freddy!01:02
freddythis will work with you if you have to use ndiswrapper01:02
freddyi had a terrible problem with my card....i uninstalled ndiswrapper01:03
freddyand did exactly what that guide told me01:03
gtadaBeen ripping my hair out trying to get WPA working01:03
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bimberiAnge1: lyx can be installed if you enable the "universe" repository ...01:03
bimberi!repositories01:03
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:03
Ange1Oh. . . so i can install with out internet conection ?01:04
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lsuactiafnerman i need to spell correcrlty01:04
Ange1Oops so i cant install without internet conn01:04
benplautthe instructions at www.ubuntuguide.com are good for enabling repos01:04
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we2byI ahve a problem here01:04
we2byI used bchunk, but I get 2 iso files01:04
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we2byone of them is not a valid iso file01:04
we2by:(01:05
bimberiAngel: It won't be on the install CD no01:05
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no_gatez_fanis there a GUI easy to uderstand  firewall?01:06
hoslerI get configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!01:06
Ange1ok thanks bimberi (i was crazy searching it). . . .01:06
hoslerbut i have it installed01:06
freddyno_gatez_fan, shorewall?01:06
we2bynightswim, I need litle help here01:06
mrd``How to I figure out what's giving me 80% CPU usage and load averages over 3, when top(1) doesn't show anything using more than 0.5% of the CPU usage?01:07
no_gatez_fanwhere is it?01:07
bimberiAnge1: np.  I've had a look and there are a lot of dependencies (~12) too01:07
nickrud_no_gatez_fan I use firestarter as an easy to use quicky01:07
lsuactiafnerhosler : apt-get install app_you_want01:07
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lsuactiafnermrd`` : ps aux, runin top might also increase load on small systems.. but thats should show01:08
mrd``And console beeps last for 10 seconds.01:08
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bimberiAnge1: ... that need to be installed on top of a base ubuntu install01:08
mrd``lsuactiafner: It's a 1.8 GHz system.01:08
nalioths_doghosler, open synaptic and look for libqt01:08
hoslerlsuactiafner: but i allready have it installed01:08
lsuactiafnermrd`` : or the program that made the load go up has quit already, updatedb runs evry 24hrs and it pushes load up and quits01:08
lsuactiafnerhosler : ldconfig01:08
nalioths_dogLokeDK, i'm not sure what got whangered when you killed your box via the button01:08
Ange1excuse me, somebody speaks(writes) spanish ? (my english is very bad)01:08
mwehosler, have libqt3-mg-dev and libqt3-headers?01:08
lsuactiafnerhosler : apt-get build-dep what_you_want2compile01:08
no_gatez_fanhow do you get the gui open?01:09
nalioths_dogangel hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es01:09
bimberiAnge1: Try #ubuntu-es01:09
mwehosler, libat3-mt-dev even01:09
LokeDKnalioths_dog, I would be very sorry to reinstall my whole system :(01:09
mrd``lsuactiafner: 'ps aux' also only shows processes using 0.5 or less.01:09
lsuactiafnerno_gatez_fan : sh /etc/init.d/gdm start01:09
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nalioths_dogLokeDK, not yet, but you may ask other folks about this01:09
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lsuactiafnermrd`` : wait for it to go down.. i think updatedb ran a few mins ago on your systme01:09
mrd``lsuactiafner: No, my CPU usage keeps spiking up real sharply every few seconds.01:09
LokeDKyeah.. i've also tried to google.. but no luck01:09
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lsuactiafnerthen again i never get loads below 2.0001:10
jtan325_what's a good tool to convert png to xpm, and/or resizing png's and xpms?01:10
lsuactiafnermrd`` : well playin mp3s might make it spike, something might have evalated nice levels01:10
hidde2guys, I've added something to my gnome session that prevents gnome from starting, how can i correct this?01:10
no_gatez_fanlsuactiafner no such file01:11
lsuactiafnerjtan325_ : convert part of imagemagick01:11
tiglionabbithidde2: look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/01:11
lsuactiafnerjtan325_ : apt-get install imagemagick01:12
hidde2tiglionabbit, what am I looking for?01:12
lsuactiafnerno_gatez_fan : then you are in trouble..01:12
tiglionabbithidde2: dunno, anything that would cause it to not run01:12
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no_gatez_fanlsuactiafner woops sorry it failed01:12
no_gatez_fani had a space in there01:13
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lsuactiafnerlol01:13
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jtan325_lsuactiafner, what's the command?01:13
jtan325_"imagemagick" is not a command... i take it this is a set of tools01:14
freddyit is01:14
freddya set of tools01:14
jtan325_cool, so what's the comand line for convert?01:14
jtan325_nm01:15
jtan325_it's 'convert"01:15
jtan325_awesome01:15
mweheh01:15
lsuactiafnerlol01:15
freddyyes sometimes the use weird name for the commands01:15
freddy;)01:15
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freddywhat was the command to take a screenshot? i forgot that one01:15
we2byany one familiar with .cue and .bin file on linux?01:15
lsuactiafnerwill paste a nice command now01:15
no_gatez_fanlsuactiafner since it failed, ho can i make it work?01:15
nickrud_hidde2, any luck?01:16
tiglionabbitgnome-panel-screenshot01:16
freddyno, the imagemagick ione01:16
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lsuactiafnersleep ; import -window root bb.jpg01:16
lsuactiafnersleep 5s ; import -window root bb.jpg01:16
lsuactiafnerwill take a screen shot named bb.jpg in 5 seconds01:16
lsuactiafnerno_gatez_fan : run xorgconf maybe01:16
tiglionabbitwe2by: to find out what a file is, use file01:17
no_gatez_fank01:17
we2bytiglionabbit, I did01:17
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ChurcH_of_FOamYanyone here use TeamSpeak?01:17
we2byone of them is iso and the other is data01:17
tiglionabbitwe2by: what did `file` say?01:17
nickrud_hidde2 the last saved gnome session is in .gnome2/session, you can try removing some lines there01:17
we2byI dunno how to burn them01:17
freddythat one01:17
hidde2nickrud, removed the file, didn't work01:17
freddyimport -w root01:17
freddythat is the one01:17
lsuactiafnerhidde2 : /tmp there are .hidden files01:17
nalioths_dogwe2by, what do you need to know?01:18
lsuactiafner.ICE-unix/ .sockets/  .X0-lock   .X11-unix/ aint needed01:18
we2bynalioths_dog, I dunno how to burm them01:18
lsuactiafnerwell they aint too dangerous to delete01:18
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nalioths_dogwe2by, you need a program called binchunker (terminal command is "bchunk")01:18
nickrud_hidde2 hm, you might try logging out, and checking to see if gconfd is running.01:18
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nalioths_dogwe2by, binchunker converts bin/cue into .iso01:19
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we2bynalioths_dog, I used bchunk01:19
we2bybut bchunk gives me 2 files01:19
we2by:(01:19
we2byone of them is data01:19
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nickrud_as well as closing an sockets in /tmp, as lsuactiafner points out :)01:19
stisevI'm having problems installing VMWare tools01:20
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stisevI'm running Kubuntu/Ubuntu  on VMware workstation (on Windows XP SP2)01:20
freddyok now, an appl to edit video01:20
stisevbut I'm trying to install VMWare tools01:20
freddydo you guys know of any?01:20
stisevOn linux?01:20
stisevLinux isn't really a video editing platform01:20
stisev:p01:20
stisevVegas 6 on Windows =OMG YES01:20
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we2bynalioths_dog, any idea?01:20
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tiglionabbitstisev: is that true?01:21
nightswimwe2by: what's the problem?01:21
we2bynightswim, read above ^^^01:21
nksenfreddy: avidemux01:21
stisevtiglionabbit,  about vegas, yes. About video on linux, no01:21
tiglionabbitstisev: that makes me wonder why Pixar would need 20,000 linux machines01:21
nightswimwhat commandline did you use?01:21
we2bybchunk file.bin file.cue file01:21
stisevHi tiglionabbit ;)01:22
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stisever pokles01:22
tiglionabbithello01:22
we2byand it gives me two new files01:22
we2byone of them is small and is iso and the other is big and is data01:22
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Alexushi i have a beagle prob..  ( ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI) i think is mono-sqlite prob01:22
tiglionabbityay, Java errors01:23
freddyi have my machines i use for animation...but i want to consider linux as a choise...and i wanna check on the appl linux has01:23
tiglionabbitfreddy: what animation software do you use?01:23
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JuIC1Hi01:24
JuIC1germans here, able to help me with a little beginner question?01:24
freddytiglionabbit, after effects, combustion, 3dmax. thats what we use at the studio.01:24
tiglionabbitfreddy: on which OS?01:25
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nightswimJuIC1: just ask :)01:25
freddywindows.01:25
JuIC1Ich bin seid ewigkeiten mal wieder auf linux unterwegs01:25
moparfan90anyone know some good apt's for my ubuntu linux?01:25
ChurcH_of_FOamYanyone here know anything about soundcards and linux?01:25
JuIC1und wei nichtmehr so recht mit der konsole umzugehen01:25
JuIC1mcht in nen ordner um da ein programm zu installieren01:25
JuIC1wie komm ich ber den terminal da nochmal rein?01:26
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY yeah, always get a sound card that does hardware mixing :)01:26
ChurcH_of_FOamYum dude we can't understand a word you said01:26
JuIC1harch01:26
JuIC1cd01:26
chrissturmJuIC1, #ubuntu-de01:26
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ChurcH_of_FOamYshit ok01:26
JuIC1kk01:26
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ChurcH_of_FOamYsuggestions for a cheapo soundcard?01:26
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freddytiglionabbit, windows.01:26
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ChurcH_of_FOamYthat does hardware mixing01:26
moparfan90anyone know any good apt's for my ubuntu linux01:26
moparfan90????01:27
ChurcH_of_FOamYand how to tell if the sound card can do this?01:27
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tiglionabbitfreddy: I heard you the first time.  Now I'm thinking about what anim stuff I can do on linux...01:27
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darius__What Ubuntu package has gtk-config?01:27
freddytiglionabbit, oh ok..let me know.01:27
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY I'm using my 6 year old onboard chip, but I think the alsa home page has some info on that01:27
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ChurcH_of_FOamYnickrud how to tell if the onboard sound card can do this?01:28
freddyim really interested on testing animation appl for linux tiglionabbit01:28
ChurcH_of_FOamYnickrud_ do you have the link?01:28
freddyi found the distro i need, now i want the appl to maybe put a couple or 4 pcs with linux in the studio tiglionabbit01:28
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nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY if it doesn't matter if you tell an app to use oss emulation, alsa directly, or esd, and everything works, you have hardware mixing01:28
ChurcH_of_FOamYhmm ok then what am i doing wrong01:29
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY I think it's alsa-project.org01:29
ChurcH_of_FOamYcause only one program can use the sound at a time01:29
moparfan90anyone have a good windows emulator other then cedgea for games???????01:29
nightswimvmware01:29
moparfan90that not realy a emulator01:29
mjrand not really for games01:29
moparfan90yeah01:29
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY there's a page on the wiki, a couple of months ago it was usable, let me check01:30
nightswimit's more of an emulator than cedega in a way :>01:30
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tiglionabbitfreddy: that sounds like a good idea.  If you find some software you like, tell me about it01:30
ChurcH_of_FOamYkk01:30
nightswimand for some games it works fine01:30
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mjrnightswim, yes, but not a windows emulator01:30
moparfan90yeah but you have to install windows. then so its not n emulator realy01:30
freddytiglionabbit, oh you dont know any :(01:30
mjranyways, the free winehq wine is mostly the alternative01:31
moparfan90ahhh!   bored01:31
tiglionabbitfreddy: well I know wings3d, blender3d, and k3d run on linux, and I'm pretty sure Maya can too01:31
moparfan90yeah i have the cedega CVS install. but i cant get half life 2 to work ....01:31
kgrimmwhat is a good RSS client ?01:31
moparfan90so it sucks01:31
ChurcH_of_FOamYi opend up the sound propertys and i can't tell what the card is01:31
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freddy"With more than 200 Linux desktops and 400 Linux servers, DreamWorks SKG is not only a leading producer of animated motion pictures but a major user of Linux as well."01:32
ChurcH_of_FOamYunless it's intel 82801BA-ICH2(DUPLEX)01:32
krodhello, can anyone help me with my wirless problem...i have tried ndiswrapper but it dosn't seem to be working...my wireless card is a belkin wireless g desktop card.01:32
tiglionabbitfreddy: count the number of linux boxes they've got at Pixar01:32
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moparfan90krod: yeah run a wire01:33
chrissturmtiglionabbit, at pixar they are forced to use apple for political reasons01:33
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY at the very end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28dmix%29. polyaudio may work, or maybe the part following about dmix01:33
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ChurcH_of_FOamYkk01:33
tiglionabbitchrissturm: is that true?  I thought I read...01:33
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KreamHi. anyone here with a working pci express card ?01:34
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY I've seen that dmix thing work, but YMMV01:34
chrissturmtiglionabbit, i think they use a lot of linux computers in their render farms, but i think they need to use some macs too because the company belongs to steve jobs01:34
tiglionabbitoh01:35
tiglionabbityes, they have tons in the farms01:35
HiddenWolfDoes anyone here know a bit about serial ports?01:35
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we2bywtf01:35
we2byI can't install mplayer01:35
we2by:(01:35
moparfan90anyone know some extras fo my computer that would make it better01:35
moparfan90we2by: try using XMMS01:36
Burgundaviamoparfan90, what sort of "extras"01:36
we2byxmms is allready installed01:36
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Huntzhello01:37
tiglionabbithello Huntz01:37
Burgundaviamoparfan90, xmms != mplayer01:37
HuntzHello, man i got introduced to ubuntu and i have to say wow never thought Debian would work soo smoothly01:37
Burgundaviawe2by, you need the specific mplayer binary for your cpu01:37
tiglionabbitm yes, it is impressive, no?01:37
Huntzyes very impressive i love it im hooked hehe01:38
tiglionabbitwe2by: when you search through synaptic for mplayer, does it come up?01:38
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we2byyep01:38
HiddenWolfdid anyone here get ubuntu to work nice with lirc?01:38
tiglionabbitHuntz: hooray, me too01:38
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tiglionabbitwe2by: okay.  And when you select the proper architecture, and try and install it, what happens?01:38
Huntzhehe Ubuntu is nice but is there a upgrade to get Gcc 4.0?01:39
tiglionabbito.o are you sure you want that?01:39
Huntztalkin to me?01:39
we2bydependencies failled!01:39
tiglionabbitHuntz: ya01:39
Dr_MelectausWhats that site with the guide on installing limewire?01:40
Huntzyes Im a free lance programmer and I always want to keep up to date with gcc01:40
Dr_Melectausubuntuguid.org ?01:40
tiglionabbitwe2by: well dang.  You have universe and multiverse, right?  You might need to add a mirror to backports.  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php  read01:40
Huntzyep01:40
nickrud_Dr_Melectaus ubuntuguide.org, but why not use gnutella?01:40
Huntzi followed the unoffical guide01:40
Dr_Melectausnickrud_, i cant get any good download rates with it01:40
Huntzu try d4x Dr?01:41
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we2byk01:41
Huntzlo01:41
Dr_MelectausHuntz, whats d4x ?01:41
Huntzlol01:41
we2bybut I don't think I will fix this problem this week01:41
Huntzit a download manager01:41
we2bywhen i sthe next stable ubuntu out?01:41
Huntzit has higher sustained download rates then doing it with your browser01:41
Dr_Melectausill apt get it then Huntz cheers ;)01:41
Huntz^_^01:41
eyequeuewe2by:  october01:41
we2bywhen is  the next stable ubuntu out?01:41
nickrud_Dr_Melectaus I used to use mldonkey. I can't anymore.01:41
we2by:(01:41
bccsoctober01:41
bccs5.1001:42
Dr_Melectaushow  not nickrud_01:42
Huntzhey tig what verison of ubuntu do ya use mate?01:42
we2bywhat's new in it?01:42
eyequeuewe2by: every 6 months01:42
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mwewe2by, what's wrong with the current stable ubuntu?01:42
tiglionabbitwe2by: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule01:42
KreamHi. anyone here with a working pci express card on an nForce4 motherboard ?01:42
tiglionabbitoops01:42
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eyequeuewe2by: the new gnome, gcc, etc01:42
we2byI can't get mplayer installed01:42
tiglionabbityeah01:42
mcquaidi was looking at installing a python ide, specifically eric01:42
KyralAnyone know what the heck a SVGZ file is?01:42
we2byand firefox had alot problems with mplayer plugins!01:42
Huntzu tried the unoffical guide we2by?01:42
we2byyep01:43
nickrud_Dr_Melectaus I live in the usa, and I won't be a path to prosecution of anyone (I hope that pomposity be forgiven)01:43
ubuntu_hello all01:43
Huntzi never had issues with it01:43
BurgundaviaKyral, a gziped scalable vector graphics file01:43
Huntzhi buntu01:43
mwewe2by, yes if you add the multiverse repos01:43
mcquaidcan another tell me why there is eric ver 3.6 and eric3 ver 3.4 in the repositories?01:43
Dr_Melectausmldonkeylol01:43
Huntzwhat error you getting we?01:43
Kyralum okay01:43
we2byI think I have a broken box here01:43
Kyralhow the hell do I open it?01:43
Huntzoh01:43
KyralI downloaded it from The Facebook under "Visualize my friends"01:43
ChurcH_of_FOamYok itryed it i'm just not able to do the stuff it says01:44
ChurcH_of_FOamYit's too technical01:44
ChurcH_of_FOamY>.<01:44
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stisevargh01:44
Kyralthe file command says its a XML document text01:44
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nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY think of it as your first final on the ubuntu implementation of debian :)01:45
tokenbad_in ubuntu is there a way to free cached memory01:45
Huntzhello smeggy01:45
iifshola01:45
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Dr_Melectaushow  not nickrud_ Bollocks, i just tried to run d4x and it closes in a matter of milliseconds01:46
Dr_Melectausshite01:46
Smeggyhello01:46
Huntzhuh Dr?01:46
Dr_Melectausi didnt mean to have the how not nickrud_  bit in thee01:46
Dr_Melectausthere**01:46
Huntzworks fine for me, what extactly occurs01:46
ChurcH_of_FOamYor think that the information provided is way to hard for my learning lvl at this time .>.<01:46
ChurcH_of_FOamYlol01:46
bunbury_zoneholaaaaa01:46
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bunbury_zonehelloooo01:46
Huntzlol Hi!01:46
Huntzfreindly Ubuntu converter!01:46
Huntzlol01:46
Dr_MelectausHuntz, i done apt-get to get d4x, it installed. then when to apss>run>d4x01:46
Dr_Melectausand it opens, but for a matter of millisecs then closes01:47
Huntzno errors?01:47
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bunbury_zonesomebody know "Informaticiens sans frontieres"???01:47
chrissturmDr_Melectaus, open a console, and enter "d4x"01:47
chrissturmDr_Melectaus, you will get an error message01:47
bunbury_zonethe LIFE proyect??01:47
Huntzah01:47
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Huntzwhat does it say?01:47
nickrud_Dr_Melectaus, I used it a long time ago, but haven't tried any recent iterations.01:47
bunbury_zonebased in Ubuntu01:48
bunbury_zoneand Morphix01:48
Dr_Melectauswww.mplayerhq.hu01:48
Dr_Melectausshit01:48
Huntz?01:48
Dr_Melectaushuntz:  in pixmap_path: "stock_open.png"01:48
Dr_Melectaus/home/melectaus/.themes/Bloodline/gtk-2.0/iconrc:26: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "stock_find.png"01:48
Dr_MelectausThats the error im getting01:48
mrd``lsuactiafner: Sorry, my system overheated.  Anyways, I think the problem is related to linux-image-2.6.12-3-k7... I booted 2.6.12-2-k7 this time and it's behaving correctly.01:48
lsuactiafnerwhat the hell are procs?01:48
Huntzahhh a gtk issue01:48
nickrud_Dr_Melectaus try selecting d4x as your downloader in firefox, and see if it works. I used it that way.01:48
lsuactiafnerpower managemnt..01:48
Dr_Melectausok01:48
Huntzits missing something from gtk nick01:48
chrissturmDr_Melectaus, select a different theme01:48
mrd``(I'll try 2.6.12-3-k7 again later to confirm, but I'm pretty sure that's all that changed before my system started misbehaving.)01:48
Huntzyea that might work chriss hehe01:49
Huntzwho in the hell uses lilo now a days?01:49
nickrud_heh01:49
Huntzlol01:49
lsuactiafnermrd`` : compile your own kernels.. kernels with every possible driver possibility compiled in is a bad idea01:49
Dr_MelectausHuntz, whats lilo?01:49
Huntzlilo is a boat loader01:49
lsuactiafneri use lilo01:49
lsuactiafnerlilo rocks01:49
Dr_Melectausapart from the freenode staffer01:49
Huntzstands for linux bootloader01:49
Huntzlol01:49
cmathesonhey how do i add another user to the /etc/sudoers file?01:50
HuntzNo Grub beats it lol01:50
chrissturmlsuactiafner, compiling kernels is not recommended01:50
Huntzchmod it then be root and add a entry manuelly with via cmatheson01:50
lsuactiafnersimple, consistant, predictable and tested.01:50
Huntzby default its read only01:50
mwecmatheson, all users in the admin group are allowed to use sudo01:50
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Burgundavialsuactiafner, please don't recommend lilo over grub, and don't recommend people compile there own kernels01:50
lsuactiafnerchrissturm : i just recommended it..01:50
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cmathesonmwe: Huntz: cool thanks01:50
HuntzLOL01:50
Huntz^_^01:51
chrissturmlsuactiafner, yeah, dont do it01:51
sorush20can you get Quick time for Linux Ubuntu01:51
lsuactiafnerthere are no disatvantaged by doing that01:51
lsuactiafneronly atvantages01:51
sorush20or not?01:51
Dr_Melectausi wish i could apt-get music !_!01:51
Huntzoh?01:51
chrissturmlsuactiafner, recommend it in #scriptkiddies01:51
tiglionabbitsorush20: you can play quicktime files in any media player with the right codecs01:51
Burgundavialsuactiafner, remember that everything you say here might be done somebody who doesn't know what they are doing, and they might seriously mess up their system01:51
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lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : linux is free choice.01:51
Huntzheheh also teach the virtue of backup01:51
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : thats the windows attitude..01:52
Huntzlol01:52
sorush20tiglionabbit, could you tell me where I can find this...01:52
Burgundavialsuactiafner, #ubuntu is about ubuntu, not about compiling kernels and other slackware-derived stuff01:52
lsuactiafneri screwed my pc up once with a kernel, but then i learnt howto do it myself01:52
lsuactiafnerif i didnt know howto make a kernel i wouldnt be runnin ubuntu since the ubuntu kernel didnt boot my system up01:52
HuntzI love Kernel Panic's i think they are sexy jk01:52
Huntzlol01:52
Burgundavialsuactiafner, whatever your experience, the default kernel works for most people01:52
lsuactiafnerand lilo didnt install properly from my cd, so i had to install lilo from another system..01:52
Burgundavialsuactiafner, just don't recommend it, ok?01:53
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : there is no harm in expandin your knowledge01:53
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Burgundavialsuactiafner mrd`` : compile your own kernels.. kernels with every possible driver possibility compiled in is a bad ide01:53
KyralIdiot, I have the Freetype libraries installed!01:53
Huntzwatch out the dino bites back Kyral01:53
Burgundaviathat is bad advice ^01:53
tiglionabbitsorush20: many of the codecs are explained in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats .  You can also add a backports mirror from http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php and install w32codecs to get support for most windows video formats01:53
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : thats like tellin someone not to learn calculus incase they invent nucluar fusion01:53
Burgundavialsuactiafner, no, it is not01:53
Huntzlol01:54
Strifeanyone in here have a dell inspiron 6000?01:54
lsuactiafnerofcourse it is, if a user can make his own kernel his linux experience will be much smoother and better01:54
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KyralDamn thing says it needs TrueType enabled to get the SVGZ to display right but it isn't telling me how01:54
lsuactiafnernot everyone buys pcs off the rack with default chipsets ect01:54
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Huntzyea assuming he doesnt trash his system ten times over01:54
Burgundavialsuactiafner, maybe for a small subset of users, but not for all01:54
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lsuactiafnerive never seen you guys help ppl out in this channel, i do all the time, if it wasnt for users who can think ubuntu wouldnt have ppl runnin it01:55
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lsuactiafnerand i'm encouraging ppl to think.01:55
Huntzwell a direct windows to linux convert01:55
Burgundavialsuactiafner, encourage people to follow Ubuntu best practices01:55
Huntzthinking isnt a critcal skill to them01:55
nickrud_huh, having a reliable kernel is a fundamental reason I settled on debian, and by extention, ubuntu.01:55
tiglionabbithey guys.  What is the standard place for me to put things such as themes and icons and such which I wish to use systemwide?01:56
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Burgundavialsuactiafner, which does not involve recommending any of the follow: kernel compiles, lilo or ubuntuguide.org01:56
HuntzI cant recall tig buddy hmm01:56
lsuactiafnerwell then this thinkin person is going to watch anime instaed and let the non-thinkin ppl do the support01:56
mcquaidtiglionabbit, /usr/share/themes /usr/share/icons01:56
mrd``lsuactiafner: Sure, but recommend things like compiling kernels for a good reason -- the default kernel is quite modular and most users aren't affected.01:56
tiglionabbitmcquaid: thank you01:56
Huntzhey i watch anime :P01:56
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tiglionabbitmcquaid: what happens if I use an animated gif as a desktop icon? ( gonna try it anyway )01:56
Burgundavialsuactiafner, would your mother want to compile a kernel?01:57
mcquaiddont think that works01:57
Huntzlol good point Bur01:57
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lsuactiafnermrd`` : your kernel made your pc overheat, make a kernel without all the other power saving features but those you need01:57
Strifeanyone with a dell laptop and an ATI video card?01:57
HuntzAfraid not Strife whats the issue though laptops are always tricky with Linux01:57
tiglionabbithmm, you sure it's not /usr/share/pixmaps ?01:57
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : she is 50 and knows nothing about pcs. obviously mrd`` aint01:58
Huntzlol01:58
StrifeHuntz: my only issue is a minor one... there was some option I previously had to use in xorg.conf to get the fglrx driver working...01:58
StrifeI have since reinstalled01:58
Strifeand I can't remember what that option was01:58
lsuactiafnertellin him to make a kernel so that his hardware aint damaged is a very good idea01:58
mweDriver "fglrx"01:59
mcquaidtiglionabbit, yep i'm sure01:59
nickrud_tiglionabbit pixmaps was depreciated a long time ago01:59
chrissturmlsuactiafner, if you knew anything about kernels you would not say that. go learn some more01:59
Burgundavialsuactiafner, if the default ubuntu kernel is damaging hardware, that is a bug01:59
Strifemwe: no :P01:59
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Strifemwe: it was a screen option01:59
Huntzlol01:59
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tiglionabbitnickrud_: then why does gnome still look there for its icons?01:59
Strifesometing having to do with the fact that it's an LCD monitor01:59
tiglionabbito, gotta eat dinner01:59
tiglionabbitbubbye01:59
lsuactiafnerchrissturm : now you are talkin rubbish01:59
nickrud_tiglionabbit for legacy01:59
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Huntzoh02:00
Huntzhmm let me look it up mate02:00
BurgundaviaStrife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:00
chrissturmlsuactiafner, point to an url where your point is explained02:00
Golgorcan anyone give me a quick answer on how to reconfigure xserver, got the wrong resolution02:00
lsuactiafnerobviously his pc aint usin power savings ect else his pc wont overheat, obviously his kernel config needs to be changed02:00
Huntznevermind Bur provided some possable help hehe why do i bother :P02:00
Huntzlol02:00
eyequeueGolgor:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:00
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HuntzWhehe02:01
StrifeBurgundavia: again, I don't have a problem with the drivers... I have an xorg.conf problem with the screen02:01
lsuactiafner!resolution02:01
Golgortackar02:01
ubotu[resolution]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:01
Golgoroops, big thanks eyequeue02:01
eyequeueGolgor:  np02:01
lsuactiafnerGolgor : follow that link02:01
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HuntzHas anyone trie the unstable release of Ubuntu?02:01
BurgundaviaStrife, it also lists common problems02:01
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BurgundaviaHuntz, yes, not recommended unless you know what you are doing02:02
Strifenope02:02
HuntzI know i just wanted a feel for it i might put it on a test PC02:02
Huntznot my home machine02:02
eyequeueHuntz:  the development version breaks multiple times per day sometimes, great fun :)02:02
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Huntzhehe lol02:02
Burgundaviaif you want to do some useful testing, install hoary, just defaults, then upgrade to breezy and reports bugs on things that break02:03
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HuntzI might just do that, I have to say Ubuntu has been a breeze no pun intended02:03
Huntzlol02:03
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mweif you're bored try rm -rf /bin. that will take a while to fix02:04
HuntzLOL02:04
Burgundaviamwe, please don't say things like that02:04
chrissturmmwe: that wont have any effect02:04
Huntzhahah thats cruel02:04
Huntzlol02:04
Alexusdo i need inotify to run beagle?02:05
BurgundaviaAlexus, no02:05
BurgundaviaAlexus, let me clarify, depends on the version02:05
mweyou might need nohup rm -rf /bin though :)02:05
Alexushm.. beagle indexed gaim and firefox pages but not files02:05
Huntzlol02:05
chrissturmmwe, it has no effect unless you are root02:05
mweof course02:05
Huntzmv nwe /dev/null02:06
Huntzlol02:06
Alexusbeagle 0.11.102:06
BurgundaviaAlexus, then, no02:06
mwecat Huntz > /dev/null02:06
eyequeueanother good reason ubuntu defaults to no root02:06
Huntzouch02:06
Huntzlol02:06
mweheh02:06
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BurgundaviaAlexus, you running breezy?02:06
chrissturmBurgundavia, i think all beagles above 0.9 need inotify02:06
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Alexusbut i get error ... 05-07-05 03.01.46.36 12350 Beagle ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI02:06
Alexusin <0x00340> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection:SetConnectionString (System.String connstring)02:06
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Huntzlol02:07
AlexusBurgundavia, breezy?02:07
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BurgundaviaAlexus, if that is the breezy beagle, report a bug in malone02:07
cmathesonhey are there any rad file-managers that are less-bloated than nautilus?02:07
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BurgundaviaAlexus, or ask in #dashboard on irc.gnome.org02:07
cmathesonhow does konqi compare?02:07
germanhi!!!02:07
chrissturmAlexus, what filesystem is your home partition on?02:07
Huntzhi german02:07
Alexusext302:08
Huntzkonqi is bloatsvill cmath02:08
Alexusxattr is set02:08
cmathesonHuntz:  so is nautilus, so what?02:08
germanhow to hav statics DNS in /etc/resolv.conf ??02:08
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Alexusi think is an sqlite prob..02:08
chrissturmAlexus, dunno why it would use sqlite then02:08
Burgundaviachrissturm, inotify is option, but recommended, according to the beaglewiki02:08
Huntzlol I have had better speed with Nautilus then Konqi02:08
Huntzif you wish for total gui speed narvina try fvm02:08
Strifebrb02:08
mwefluxbox02:09
Huntzlol rm -f nwe02:09
eyequeuegerman:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head02:09
chrissturmBurgundavia, didnt know that :)02:09
Alexuschrissturm, sqlite is needed by beagle?02:09
mwedd if=dev/zero of=Huntz02:10
mweheh02:10
HuntzLOL02:10
Huntzsp cruel02:10
Huntzo02:10
Alexusis installed (2.8.15)02:10
chrissturmAlexus, i thought it needs sqlite only when it doesnt have xattr02:10
Huntzlol02:10
LokeDKhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46452 Can anyone help me?02:10
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m0thhi02:10
eyequeuegerman:  that file will tell you not to edit it of course02:10
BurgundaviaChrischan, they made it optional in .10 or .11 I think02:10
Huntznwe where do you reign from anyway?02:10
Alexushow i can disable sqlite?02:10
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cmathesonHuntz:  narvina? what's that?02:11
m0thubuntu 5.04 hangs on activating pccard controller - unfortunately ubuntu ignores the nopcmcia apped option, like debian02:11
mweLokeDK, did you fix your bin/cue issue?02:11
Huntzits to some belief's a heaven02:11
ultrahexhow can i change the mouse sensitvity and Refresh rate..... (the mouse pref doesnt go high enough)02:11
tiglionabbitcmatheson: he may mean nirvana02:11
chrissturmalexus, did you try to install libsqlite-3-0 ?02:11
cmathesontiglionabbit:  thanks02:11
Huntzhehe02:11
m0thi'd like to use ubuntu, though02:11
LokeDKmwe, what bin/cue issue?02:11
Alexusyes is both installed02:11
chrissturmAlexus, breezy beagle has some missing dependencies, maybe it needs sqlite v302:11
m0this there a alternative way to disable pcmcia on installation?02:12
mweLokeDK, never mind I must have a nick confusion :)02:12
chrissturmAlexus, dunno then02:12
LokeDKoh okay :)02:12
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chrissturmAlexus, did you look into the logfiles in ~/.beagle ?02:12
ultrahexhow can i change the mouse sensitvity and Refresh rate..... (the mouse pref doesnt go high enough)...........................................................02:12
Alexusyes..  its say  Beagle ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI02:13
Alexusin <0x00340> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection:SetConnectionString (System.String connstring)02:13
Alexus.... and in <0x00000> <unknown method>02:14
chrissturmAlexus, did you run beagle before?02:14
jasoncohensomething appears to be wrong with apt-get on my system using backports hoary-backport-staging. apt-get can't upgrade amule to 2.0.3. it complains that it can't fetch the .deb but i can download it myself with wget & the url that it says it can't fetch02:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYanyone know what the current version of alsa is?02:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYand if ubuntu has it?02:15
bluefoxicyhuh.02:15
bluefoxicyweird.02:15
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bluefoxicyit seems that in a package upgrade, apt decided to perform ln -s /usr/bin /usr/bin/X11 without removing /usr/bin/X1102:15
Alexusno its first..02:15
bluefoxicythus X stopped working02:15
flodineanyone running pekwm02:15
TimmyJwhat file in ubuntu do I need to edit to load a kernel module on boot?02:15
flodinehello02:16
Huntzbrb02:16
bluefoxicyas Xorg was /usr/bin/X11/bin/Xorg and not /usr/bin/X11/Xorg02:16
comadrejajasoncohen : by any chance is it an ftp entry on sources.list ?02:16
biovoreI belive alsa is at 1.0.9b02:16
bluefoxicyDebian's package manager is pretty horrible.02:16
mweTimmyJ, /etc/modules iirc02:16
bimberiTimmyJ: /etc/modules02:16
jasoncohencomadreja, it's an http entry - http://ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net/02:16
ChurcH_of_FOamYbiovore how to tell if i have that version?02:16
biovoretrying to remember..02:17
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, that is not the fault of apt02:17
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, did you manually create any symlinks?02:17
jasoncohenhere's the output - http://pastebin.ca/1689202:17
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  no.02:17
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, more likely a packaging issue02:17
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  but earlier Xorg packages specified a different directory structure.02:17
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biovoreChurch:  dpkg -L | grep alsa02:18
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, yes, X is changing the directory structure. It is very confusing02:18
freddyholy shiat02:18
ChurcH_of_FOamYthanx bio02:18
biovoreubuntu is using 1.0.802:18
freddytheres softimage for LINUX02:18
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freddywtf02:18
Alexuschrissturm, its first time.. what can i do?02:18
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  apt/dpkg should be able to confirm that a symlink being installed is indeed being installed; more directly, if the symlink to be installed is /usr/bin/X11 -> /usr/bin, then it should confirm that it is creating /usr/bin/X11 and NOT /usr/bin/X11/bin02:18
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biovorefreddy: softimage? disk image?02:18
comadrejajasoncohen : the ip's differ02:18
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, then file a bug about it02:18
chrissturmAlexus, i dont know.  you could try "rm ~/.beagle"02:19
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  It's also possible to leave changes on the system with a package without it actually installing.02:19
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, say again?02:19
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  changes that the package manager cannot remove because it does not track them.02:19
jasoncohencomadreja, ah, it fails the first time when i wget. then the next time it uses another ip02:19
Alexusi tried it.. ok where can i ask?02:19
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ChurcH_of_FOamYi have the older version 1.08 how to upgrade?02:19
comadrejajasoncohen seems so02:19
ChurcH_of_FOamYto the current version of alsa02:20
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jasoncohencomadreja, perhaps, one of their servers is down02:20
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  I've filed a bug on that, re. . . gimme a sec to find the bug, it was set as "NOTABUG" because it's "not a bug in apt"02:20
biovoredepends if 1.0.9 is in the package tree.. else compile your self..02:20
comadrejajasoncohen : try setting it manually on your /etc/hosts02:20
biovore1.0.9 is beta02:20
comadrejajasoncohen : just meanwhile :/02:20
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, then it probably isn't02:20
biovorerequires alot of work to update alsa02:20
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  It was regarding java.  I tried installing blackdown but answered "no" to the license agreement, and so the package -did- -not- -install-02:20
biovorekernel recompile and stuff02:20
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ChurcH_of_FOamYare you serious02:20
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cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: If 1.0.8 is working OK, do not attempt to fix it. if it's not, get the 1.0.9a packages fropm breezy and install those.02:20
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, what do you need from 1.0.9?02:21
biovoreyou have to update the kernel drivers with a alsa patch02:21
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  no command to dpkg or apt can remove the changes; the package stored that I declined the license and refuses to ask me again, thus refusing to install.02:21
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, that is a bug, but I think I saw it02:21
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freddybiovore, softimage man! an important software for 3d animation!02:21
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ChurcH_of_FOamYBurgundavia well fro some reason my soundcard will only put out sound from one app at a time02:21
ultrahexhow do you modify sensitivity beyond max in preferences ....02:21
freddyand its only $670!!!02:21
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169202:21
biovoreno clue about softimage..02:21
cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: Run a sound server, problem fixed.02:21
ChurcH_of_FOamYso i'm assuming that it's outdated or i have a shitty soundcard02:21
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, that is a bigger fix than just alsa02:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYkk02:22
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, and a known issue02:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYand how do i run a sound server?02:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYfro teamspeak02:22
biovorewhat sound card you got church.. I run teamspeak in ubuntu here02:22
cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: Ubuntu ran one the moment you installed it, how did you disable it?02:22
jasoncohencomadreja, by adding "70.84.217.98 ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net" to /etc/hosts ?02:22
chrissturmbluefoxicy, did you try purging the package?02:22
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comadrejajasoncohen yep02:22
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  it's notable that package managers such as Gentoo's Portage can and do track _ALL_ changes made by installing or building a package.  Portage goes so far as to sandbox the actions of the build process and does not access outside the work directory until installing.02:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYi diden't02:22
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ChurcH_of_FOamYit's still running as far as i know02:23
cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: You'll need an esound wrapper for teamspeak. It may or may not exist. Your main problem is that you're trying to use crap software (teamspeak) that was improperly written.02:23
bluefoxicychrissturm:  Yes, I tried dpkg removal, forced removal, apt-get --purge, a dpkg command that purged all info. . .02:23
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biovoreteamspeak uses OSS02:23
bluefoxicychrissturm:  I tried manually editing the dpkg database and removing the package's entry02:23
mgcrosshello all02:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYteamspeak is crap?02:23
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, then find an apt developer and talk to them02:23
biovorelegacy layier /dev/dsp002:23
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bluefoxicychrissturm:  it's stored info somewhere I can't find.02:23
biovorejava app02:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYhave you ever used it?02:23
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  look at the reply.02:23
biovoreI have no probs with it..02:23
biovoreTeamspeak02:23
cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: Read on, see 'improperly written'.02:23
bluefoxicyBurgundavia: "This is a bug in the blackdown packages, not in apt (or any other part of Ubuntu)"02:23
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, then it probably is02:24
chrissturmbluefoxicy, i also think so02:24
golgoranyone wanna help me with a newbie question?02:24
jasoncohencomadreja, now it works fine02:24
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  theoretically I could make a package with a "bug" that would irreparably break the system, "through no fault of the package manager"02:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYbiovore how do you get it to run multiple sounds then ?02:24
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  thus forcing a reinstall.02:24
mgcrossanyone eles getting errors when updating sources using synaptic or Apt?02:24
crusadingknightgolgor: ?02:24
mgcrossGPG erros?02:24
comadrejajasoncohen : cool :) remember you have to remove that entry02:24
biovorewhat sound card you have Church.. have to have full duplex card02:24
biovoreI have a SB live here..02:24
jasoncohencomadreja, yeah, i'll remove it tomorrow and see if it's fixed02:24
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, #ubuntu is not the place to produce solutions to your problem, only to complain about it02:24
chrissturmbluefoxicy, sure, thats why its not good to install unsigned packags02:24
ksmurfdoes anyone have any insight into setting up a lava serial card?02:24
jasoncohencomadreja, why does wget try a different IP the second time but apt doesn't?02:25
mgcrossW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:25
mgcrossW: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:25
bluefoxicychrissturm:  Is that a proper attitude?02:25
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biovoreyeah.. I seen that too mgcross02:25
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Burgundaviajasoncohen, apt is not so smart when it comes to handling that stuff02:25
chrissturmbluefoxicy, its not technically possible to protect from these problems02:25
mgcrossbiovore: any solutions?02:25
bluefoxicychrissturm:  In Gentoo installing a package doesn't have any effect until the final installation stage.  Up to then the package is inable to touch the rest of the system.02:25
biovoretheres a backup mirror..02:25
biovorelet me check my apt02:25
jasoncohenBurgundavia, why?02:26
chrissturmbluefoxicy, and in the final stage it can rm -rf / if it wants to02:26
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, find an apt developer, explain what happens, explain why it is a bug and explain a possible solution02:26
bluefoxicychrissturm:  Further, Portage tracks _ALL_ changes made by a package's installation process, allowing you to remove it.02:26
Burgundaviajasoncohen, no idea02:26
ralfhow can I make a video dvd?02:26
biovorehttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu02:26
mgcrossbiovore: thanks!02:26
bluefoxicychrissturm:  nope.  The package cannot remove anything during install, only after first run.02:26
ChurcH_of_FOamYdid some reserarch and the consensus seems to be that teamspeak useing an esound02:26
jasoncohencomadreja, thanks for the help02:26
ChurcH_of_FOamYwrapper will not alow you to speak02:26
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, otherwise, this is not the channel to complain about it02:26
chrissturmbluefoxicy, thats not possible02:26
biovorehmm..  useing jackd?02:26
mgcrossbiovore: so I need to edit my sources list?02:26
ChurcH_of_FOamYshould i just get a better video card?02:27
biovoreyeah.. mgcross02:27
ChurcH_of_FOamYsound card i mean02:27
biovoreyeah.. SB live is cheap these day..02:27
biovoreworks great02:27
biovorewhat sound card you using now Church?02:27
mgcrossbiovore: manually or using net-select?02:27
bluefoxicychrissturm:  Yes it is.  the glibc functions for open(), unlink(), creat(), and the like are overridden with a library called sandbox, which allows (read, write, readwrite, none) to be set for specified paths and endures through exec() calls.02:27
chrissturmbluefoxicy, think about it this way:  most stuff that portage does happens on the ubuntu build servers. the last stage of a portage install is comparable to the whole install when using debs02:28
biovoremgcross: I just editted /etc/apt/source.list manualy then ran apt-get update02:28
chrissturmbluefoxicy, i know gentoo quite well02:28
bluefoxicychrissturm:  dpkg allows for preinst scripts to be run.02:28
bluefoxicythis is what caused the current 'damage' which I cannot undo02:28
mgcrossbiovore: TY!02:28
biovorenp ;-)02:29
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  complaining elsewhere doesn't work.  The bugzilla, you saw.  I'm banned from #ubuntu-devel, and they'd probably laugh it off the mailing list02:29
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chrissturmbluefoxicy, try stracing dpkg :)02:29
bluefoxicychrissturm:  i tried that as well :(  I also read the preinstall script.02:29
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, if you are banned from #ubuntu-devel, I would say there is a good reason for it. In any case, you know where to take your issues. #ubuntu is not that place02:29
bluefoxicyI tried modifying it to undo what it did.02:29
Strifeanyone in here been using Enlightenment DR17 at all?02:30
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  I got banned by daniels when I notified him that X broke, because /usr/bin/X11/Xorg became self-referential (symlink to ../X11/Xorg)02:30
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  It only happens during a breezy upgrade from a breezy upgrade at a specific point, apparently.  Today I encountered the same issue.02:30
nickrud_Strife I tried some debs that someone here built, it worked.02:31
ChurcH_of_FOamYbiovore an onboard intell soundcard02:31
biovoreICH5 thing, or laptop02:31
chrissturmbluefoxicy, write a mail to the blackdown ML.02:31
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ChurcH_of_FOamYi'm hopeing that it's the soundcard thats the problem02:31
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  You should notice the pattern of developers ignoring problems that they don't see all that much because they're too fucking conceited to care.02:31
biovoreyeah.. I have a intell on my mobo.. POS software card..02:31
Strifenickrud_: ooh, there are debs?02:32
Strifebecause just now I'm trying to build it, and I got an error that ' ' is not in my path02:32
Strifeyes a space02:32
Strifea space is not in my path02:32
bluefoxicychrissturm: Yes, I should ask the blackdown people why in the hell debian packages can make changes that debian's package manager doesn't know how to undo before they're even installed.02:32
robertjbluefoxicy: did you ever consider they might not care because they have bigger things to worry about?02:32
nickrud_Strife yeah, and if I had my dsl, I'd put them up for you, but :)02:32
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, please be quiet, or you will be kicked from here as well02:32
nickrud_I'm doing dialup elsewhere at the moment02:32
Strifenickrud_: oh, so you don't know where they are?02:32
bluefoxicyrobertj:  that's when you do something called "prioritizing;" ignoring an issue isn't prioritizing, it's being an ignorant ass.02:32
robertjbluefoxity: it's not as if they are ignoring serious problems from an RC, breezy still has months to go, and they are actually working on other things02:33
bluefoxicyrobertj:  my engine is making a knocking noise, but I need gas, so I should ignore the knocking noise and just get gas.  The knocking is nothing, don't ever worry about it.02:33
jasoncohenwhy isn't system-config-kickstart added to the gnome menu?02:33
bluefoxicyrobertj:  I think this is more of a problem with the package manager itself than with changes made to breezy.02:34
chrissturmbluefoxicy, that shows that you dont want a solution, but only bitch around02:34
biovoresomeone isn't reading the topic..  quote: "| PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY | "02:34
Burgundaviajasoncohen, should be, under apps-->system-tools-->(something)02:34
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chrissturm bluefoxicy!*@* added to ignore list.02:34
bluefoxicythe thing that happened with java for example occurs in hoary too.02:34
robertjbluefoxicy: well if its a problem with dpkg, file it upstream with debian02:34
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, again, this is not an issue for #ubuntu, please be quiet02:34
nickrud_not anymore, but ivoks provided them, maybe you can search around. He may still have them up.02:34
mgcrossbiovore: afraid of screwing this upo as I don't have a clue...don't suppose you'd fire me a copy of YOUR sources.list file...using Hoary02:34
speellol02:34
Strifenickrud_: cool thanks02:34
naliothbluefoxicy: they are fixing to remove you from here02:34
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  of course, it's not an issue for anywhere.02:35
bluefoxicyanyway I'll file it with debian02:35
BockBilbohello02:35
bluefoxicythough when they ask what ver I'm using02:35
bluefoxicyand I say ubuntu02:35
bluefoxicythey'll tell me to go bitch at you guys again02:35
mgcrossbiovore: fire you my gmail ady?02:35
jasoncohenBurgundavia, lol, heh- it was added as Kickstart. i didn't notice it because it didn't have an icon and i therefore assumed it was one of the iconless kde apps02:35
BockBilboIve notice that the flash player doesnt sound on ubuntu but yes on kubuntu...02:35
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Burgundaviajasoncohen, it is actually a gtk app02:35
BockBilboi mean, not in gnome, but yes on kde02:35
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, there is fix for that02:35
bluefoxicyDebian cares only about Debian itself, not about derivatives, even if it's an inherited problem02:35
BockBilbowhich one Burgundavia ?02:35
ubuntu__everytime I try to resize my parition of ext3, gparted fails, any ideas?02:35
tiglionabbitBurgundavia: really?  I get sound, but what's the fix anyway?02:36
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BockBilboi guess its a problem with esd and arts02:36
tiglionabbitis it esd-related?02:36
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BurgundaviaBockBilbo, sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.102:36
naliothmgcross: is there something special you need in a sources.list?02:36
robertjif they ask you what version, check dpkg --version and tell them02:36
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, the flash plugin is looking in the wrong place02:36
BockBilbooh02:36
BockBilboi see02:36
BockBilbolet me try02:36
jasoncohenBurgundavia, yeah i know but there are a bunch of kde apps there that have no icon so i assumed it was one of them. i don't know why i didn't see "Kickstart"02:36
naliothubuntu__: you cant use gparted on a mounted volume02:36
ubuntu__Its not mounted02:37
naliothubuntu__: then i dont know02:37
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speelhey any ubuntu devs here i have a question :P02:37
^thehatsrule^see #ubuntu-dev i think?02:38
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speelah yes forgot about that chann02:38
robertjI'd avoid ubuntu-dev unless your question is regarding development02:38
Burgundaviaspeel, #ubuntu-devel, actually02:38
ubuntu__nalioth, ever resized a partition in gparted?02:38
robertjie. just ask02:38
naliothubuntu__: no i havent02:38
speelwell it is and it is not02:38
robertjwell ask02:38
BockBilbothanks Burgundavia :)02:39
BockBilboworked02:39
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, np02:39
mgcrosscool, thanks...whole thing?02:39
BockBilboive got one last question02:39
Burgundaviashoot02:39
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BockBilboit seens that ive got problems with nautilus and smbfs02:39
BockBilboive got a remote share which uses samba02:40
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robertjspeel: ?02:40
BockBilboand i automount it via fstab everytime i boot02:40
mig`afternoon everyone02:40
BockBilbobut sometimes, nautilus gets frozen02:40
mig`actually, evening02:40
BockBilbowhen trying to access to the directory02:40
ChurcH_of_FOamYbiovore so you think tht if i get a new soundcard that should fix my sound card problems02:40
mig`i finally did it ;), i installed ubuntu on the usb hdd02:40
BockBilboany idea?02:40
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mig`had to make the initrd, and have it wait 5 seconds before launching linuxrc02:41
biovoreChurch, I would think so..02:41
biovoreworks off the bat here..02:41
speellike how come devs dont put massivly used programs into their os's like for example flash for the install webbrowsers02:41
naliothmig`: congratulations (gonna write a wiki article about it?)02:41
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, do you have a spare machine you could test that on Breezy? I know they put some serious smbfs fixes into the new nautilus02:41
biovorejust have to use alsamixer to set the correct audio channels for the mic02:41
tiglionabbitspeel: because flash isn't free02:41
BockBilboBurgundavia, i use hoary02:41
speellike on there own system dont they go to like a flash site and say crap now i have to install flash02:41
Burgundaviaspeel, they don't install non-free stuff by default02:41
ChurcH_of_FOamYdamn then what am i doing wrong02:41
BockBilboive tried using breezy twice02:41
ChurcH_of_FOamYcan you help me?02:41
ChurcH_of_FOamYi would love to get it to me to run02:41
naliothBockBilbo: he wants to know if you have a spare machine to dev-test breezy smb stuff with02:41
ChurcH_of_FOamYright02:41
mig`sure, i have no problem writing a wiki article about it, but i still haven't gotten everything figured out, the only way i could maek the initrd file, was to install ubuntu on vmware in windows, make the initrd file and then copy it to the usb drive so that it could boot02:41
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BockBilboand in both times the dist upgrade went wrong02:42
Burgundaviabreezy has a few rough spot02:42
cafuegoAnd even if you do install flash, it more often than not just crashes the browser.02:42
Burgundavias02:42
mig`this is because the livecd uses the 386 kernel, and ubuntu uses the 686 kernel02:42
cafuegoCoz macromedia suck.02:42
speelfree as in here is the source or free as in here is the program you can see the source02:42
naliothmig`: did you look in /boot ?02:42
speelyou cant*02:42
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Burgundaviaspeel, free as in OSI or DFSG-free02:42
mig`so when i run mkinitrd it looks for the 386 kernel in /lib/modules/02:42
mig`and it fails02:42
speelah02:42
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mig`nalioth, so that is the problem02:42
Burgundaviaspeel, so, both those freedoms, and more02:42
biovoreChurch, dose your system only support 1 wav channel?02:42
azriel_question: i just installed ubuntu, and it plays the start up sound, but when i try to open noatun it says sound device busy and cannot play music, would someone help me please? :)02:42
speelbut that kinda makes no sence you know?02:42
cafuegospeel: The source is not available, but people have hacked together their own versions.02:42
tiglionabbitspeel: it's not free as in Macromedia does not let us touch it or modify it.  It's their stuff.  If it doesn't work, we can't fix it02:43
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cafuegospeel: Still, those tend to only run on i38602:43
mig`nalioth, from inside the livecd i cannot create an initrd02:43
mig`that's why i had such a hard time with it02:43
BockBilboBurgundavia, nalioth sorry, i dont understan what you mean by "sparing machine"02:43
speelHmm intresting02:43
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BockBilboyou mean a computer to try it out?02:43
naliothBockBilbo: a machine you dont use for important things (like chat)02:43
speelI dont know i figure if people demand it why not put it in02:43
BockBilbooh02:43
BockBilbothis one02:43
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ymeeall, I mounted a second drive hda1 however I cannot write to it unless I am root, how do I fix this02:43
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naliothBockBilbo: breezy needs a whole nother machine at this point02:44
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BockBilboyes02:44
tiglionabbitspeel: why not demand that Macromedia let us see the source?02:44
BockBilbothats the problem02:44
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Burgundaviaspeel, if it is not DFSG-free, I seriously doubt they will install it by default02:44
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BockBilboive installed ubuntu like 6 times in 5 days in this machine02:44
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nickrud_azriel_ noatun uses a different sound driver than 'ubuntu'.02:44
speelwell no one else cares about the source except devs as long as the end user can use it freely02:44
ymeehow can a normal user get privs to read/write to a drive that root mounted?02:45
biovorebe too02:45
biovorebe root02:45
tiglionabbitspeel: but it doesn't work properly, and I don't think it can be worked into the OS...   every linux distro has issues with it02:45
nickrud_speel not true, I care02:45
mig`i have questions regarding wma/mp3/mpg files02:45
naliothmig`: shoot02:45
flodinea guys i need a new libc6 file how can i get it02:45
nickrud_and if there is a non dev on this list, I am he.02:45
Burgundaviaspeel, I like a workable system, but I not willing to sacrafice my freedoms to get it02:45
chopehi, when i run amarok the splash screen flashes an then the program finishes, what can be happening? it used to work fine02:45
ymeeI added a second drive for more space..want the user to be able to access it02:45
biovoreymee: you can also add -o user,exe to the mount command, sometimes that works02:45
mig`i installed xmms, and when i add wma/mp3 files they won't even show up in the playlist and i can't play them, i'm using esound output plugin02:45
BockBilboanyways02:46
ymeebiovore thanks let me try that02:46
tiglionabbitchope: run it from a terminal and paste its output to #flood02:46
nalioths_dogmig`: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support02:46
BockBilboi think there might be another solution02:46
azriel_nickrud_, and neither xmms nor movie player could open the mp3 either, can you give me some suggestions to do?02:46
mig`with totem movie player, it says i dont have the plugins to output it, etc.02:46
mig`ah, will do, thx02:46
BockBilbowhats the name of the unix network sharing protocol?02:46
Burgundaviamig`, you need totem-xine and the w32codecs02:46
biovoreymee: I might be wrong on the flags.. but there is a user mount flag thing..02:46
eyequeueNFS02:46
mig`BockBilbo: nfs ?02:46
BockBilbo*file sharing02:46
BockBilboyeah02:46
speeli completly agree on what you guys are saying but dont you think if a free program  ( either or not the source is a availible ) that is in high demand should be included?02:46
eyequeuenfsd (8)             - NFS server process02:46
eyequeuenfsd (7)             - special filesystem for controlling Linux NFS server02:46
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BockBilboi guess its possible to share the same directory via nfs and samba02:47
BockBilboright?02:47
nickrud_azriel_ first, i'd look at google ubuntu restricted formats02:47
chopeamaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.02:47
chope/usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:47
cwilluI've got this little square dot on my screen02:47
naliothmig`: network file system02:47
Burgundaviaspeel, convince the developers of that. There are some free java implementations coming along02:47
cwilluthat's stuck on top02:47
naliothBockBilbo: correct02:47
BockBilbogreat02:47
Burgundaviaspeel, make that flash02:47
BockBilboso thats what im going to do02:47
nalioths_dogazriel_: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support02:47
BockBilboi bet nfs works bether than samba for linux02:47
cwilluany hints how to get rid of it? (rebooting or killing the x server is not considered a solution)02:47
speelyea i should Lol02:47
eyequeuespeel:  i think you're defining "free" differently than we would here02:47
naliothnickrud_: hows the dialup life?02:47
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nickrud_sucks02:48
azriel_nalioth, ok02:48
speelwell i mean free as in you can use it with out a price02:48
Burgundaviaspeel, http://swift-tools.net/Flash/ and http://www.schleef.org/swfdec/02:48
naliothBockBilbo: nfs works on all unices, samba is a windows crutch02:48
nickrud_although, it's livable with some tools02:48
mig`OK, well02:48
eyequeuespeel:  think freedom, not free-from-payment02:48
BockBilboyeah, i know nalioth02:48
mig`nalioth, i don't mind creating a wiki article on this02:48
BockBilbois it easy to configure?02:48
naliothmig`: please do02:48
mig`however, it wont be too good02:48
mig`since, i dont know how to make the initrd file w/out another installation of ubuntu02:48
cafuegospeel: I don't have or use flash and the web is a wonderfully quiet and information rich place.02:49
naliothmig`: some knowledge is good, others can add to it/ fill it in (that what a wiki is)02:49
mig`like i said before, i couldn't run mkinitrd from the livecd02:49
mig`ok, will do then ;)02:49
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speelyes it is ;) but i mean its a pain in the butt that if i need to see a flash enabled site for school i should be able to see it with out inputing and commands or looking up faqs02:50
nickrud_dialup: no flash, no images, mail and updates overnight. irc is doable, though :)02:50
speelany*02:50
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cwilluI've got a little square dot about |_| big.  Anybody know how to get rid of it?02:50
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Burgundaviaspeel, flash is not installed by default on a windows system either02:50
Adrosswhat program can convert an ogg back to an mp3?02:50
speelHmm true on that one02:50
naliothspeel: the pain in the ass is people not taking into consieration the users of f/oss and having a flash-only site02:50
biovorecwillu:what kind of dot?02:50
cwillulike a broken piece of gnome02:50
naliothAdross: the sound quality will suffer in the doing02:51
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Burgundaviacwillu, can you show us a screenie?02:51
cwilluit's always on top, I can't move it (alt or otherwise), can't kill it with the force quit applet02:51
biovorecwillu, no clue..02:51
speelyea i suppose02:51
cwilluone sec02:51
Adrossthey were mp3 to begin with, converted and i didn't really lose much. Plus its lugradio, not music anyway02:51
Burgundaviaspeel, flash is also terrible for usablity and accessiblity02:51
cwilluwhere's the dump point?02:51
tiglionabbitBurgundavia: all of the internet is02:51
BurgundaviaAdross, you can download ogg from lugradio02:51
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, indeed02:51
naliothAdross: open synaptic and search for 'ogg mp3' in the 'contents'02:51
Burgundaviacwillu, image shack02:52
Adrossyes, i know that, *now*02:52
naliothAdross: can't remember the prog name02:52
tiglionabbitBurgundavia: it's as if people can get a degree in anti-usability02:52
mig`OK, well i have to go02:52
Adrosskk02:52
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cwilluimage shack?02:52
mig`I'll be back02:52
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Burgundaviacwillu, google it02:52
mig`But, I'll add to the wiki02:52
mig`bbl02:52
Burgundaviacwillu, free image hosting02:52
speelwell many sites i go to require flash and some people that come over and use my comp somtimes go to sites that require flash so yea02:52
tiglionabbitby using image-maps and slices to build a page that looks good but is difficult to use02:52
biovoreJFGI -- Just Fucking Google it  :-)02:52
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Adrossbye02:53
nickrud_biovore maybe, The Fine Google Engine :)02:53
naliothspeel: when i make a site, i always include a non-flash entry (for blind and deaf people <sux to hear flash on a screen reader>)02:53
biovorehehe02:53
speelthats good Lol i wish all people did that02:53
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cwillu<a href="http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/3999/screenshot7jo.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>02:54
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cwillusorry02:54
cwilluhttp://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png02:54
azriel_let'see if this works now02:54
speelso basicly if the source is out there devs are more then welcomed to include it into ubuntu  or any distro?02:54
naliothspeel: if it's gpl'd02:55
Burgundavianalioth, DFSG-free, not just gpl02:55
Burgundaviaand free to redistribute stuff can go in multiverse02:55
Burgundaviasuch as flash02:55
eyequeuespeel:  source availability is only one aspect of freedom02:55
naliothok, then "open source licensed"02:55
cwillucentre of the screen, at the top02:55
Burgundaviacwillu, that is odd, maybe something to do with shifted menus02:56
naliothidk what DFSG is02:56
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cwillufyi, it doesn't move with the menus02:56
speelthen why are there so little packsages supported by ubuntu ( not including multiverse and the other sources )02:56
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Burgundavianalioth, Debian Free Software Guidelines, the foundation for the Open Source Definition02:56
tiglionabbitspeel: Ubuntu wants to support a small amount of packages to make them uh, quality02:56
naliothBurgundavia: ah, ty02:56
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eyequeuespeel:  "main" can be thought of as the "core" of the system, i suppose02:57
Burgundaviaspeel, because every supported package means more work. The policy is one good app for main02:57
cwilluanybody got a solution for the mystery dot?02:57
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tiglionabbitcwillu: what dot?02:57
Burgundaviaso not every mail app out there is supported02:57
speelah ok :)02:57
cwilluhttp://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png02:57
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cwillucentre top02:57
Burgundaviacwillu, that is a menu that doesn't have anything it it, by looks of it02:58
cwilluthat I can't kill02:58
eyequeuenalioth:  http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines02:58
Burgundaviacwillu, I assume you have tried logging in and out?02:58
cwilluit's always on top, I can't kill it via force quit02:58
speelme my self i dont care if the source is there or not because i cant code for the life of me Lol just aslong as its free and supports linux02:58
tiglionabbitI don't see the dot02:58
cwilluand I'm trying to do work... killing the x server is not a solution, it's the same as the windows 'reboot'02:58
eyequeuespeel:  "free" meaning freedom?02:58
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, right underneatht he start of the notification area02:58
cwillu:)02:59
speelfree as no cost what so ever02:59
cwillualt drag doesn't move it02:59
Burgundaviaspeel, you see, but forcing things to be DFSG-free, debian has made a lot of difference02:59
eyequeuespeel:  i think your differing definition may be the souce of confusion02:59
nickrud_speel the cliche is, free as in speech, free as in beer02:59
golgoranyone can tell me how to get root access in gnome?02:59
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eyequeuespeel:  cost isn't the issue, nor is just-source-availability03:00
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cwillugksudo command or sudo command if its terminal based03:00
nickrud_speech means you can change it, beer means you can use it03:00
Burgundaviagolgor, have your read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo ?03:00
speelah ok03:00
cwillui.e., gksudo nautilus ~<yourname> will bring up your home directory in a root window03:00
golgorno Burgundavia, ill do that03:00
Burgundaviacwillu, try removing the notification area and readding it03:00
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eyequeuespeel:  hand me the source code to something, but tell me that i can't use it is i am married, that means it is no longer free (and notice i've not mentioned money at all)03:01
cwilluaha03:01
cwilluthansk :)03:01
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cwilluthanks, even!03:01
MikeAanyone here use gammu?03:01
eyequeuespeel:  IF i am married03:01
Burgundaviacwillu, did that do it?03:01
tiglionabbitBurgundavia: I still can't see it03:01
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speelyea i getcha03:01
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, right under the start of the notification area03:01
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, the dotted line03:01
Burgundaviathere is a little box under that line03:01
tiglionabbitthe dotted line?  That's supposed to be there03:01
cwilluthat did it03:02
tiglionabbitit's part of the notification area03:02
tiglionabbitoh, you mean the thing hanging off of it?03:02
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eyequeuespeel:  now granted, as a broke-person, money ends up being important too, heheheh03:02
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, the little thing just beneath it03:02
speellol03:02
Burgundaviacwillu, I suspect some menu that didn't close properly03:02
tiglionabbithehe, that's odd.  Can you right-click it?  can you drag it off?03:02
tiglionabbitcan you kill your gnome panel?03:02
cwilluno, the weird little box between the two windows that was floating03:02
cwilluand removing and readding the notification area made it go away as well03:03
cwilluand no, I couldn't right click or alt-drag or force quite03:03
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tiglionabbitwell uh, good, the crazy thingy is gone, yes?03:03
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cwillulol03:03
Burgundaviacwillu, that is why I worked in a help desk03:03
cwilluyou'd rather be lucky than good anyway :)03:03
cwillu:p03:03
Burgundaviacwillu, obtuse explanations and bizarre screenshots are my specialty03:03
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cwilluI thought that, I tried bringing up all the menus and closing them (seen it fix things before)... must have died completely03:04
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Burgundaviaif for somereason the system cannot read the file that defines a menu, a little box will show up as well03:04
ChurcH_of_FOamYi can't beleve that ubuntu made #1 on all distrwatch boards!03:05
ChurcH_of_FOamYthats awsome03:05
ChurcH_of_FOamY^_^03:05
speelhey in college is there any linux type classes?03:05
biovoreit nice for a desktop.. some glitches still but there working them..03:05
Burgundaviaspeel, some collegs offer it03:05
biovoredepends on the college03:06
tiglionabbitspeel: I bet if you went to UC Berkely, they would teach you about Berkely Software Distribution03:06
tiglionabbitat UCSC we use Solaris.  Bleh03:06
speellike do u know what kina classes03:06
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cwilludoh03:07
Burgundaviaspeel, everything you want, if you go to the right places03:07
biovorewell most colleges unix is unix..  solaris,linux,bsd03:07
cwillunow I'm seeing a shadow accross the bottom half of my screen03:07
cwillubut03:07
Burgundaviacwillu, that thing reappear?03:07
biovoreuncle sam uses alot of solaris03:07
speelah bsd <303:07
cwilluit moves as I look up or down :(03:07
ArniaDurham uses a wonderful mix of Solaris (for the servers), RedHat (for the Linux XServer) and XP for the client machines03:07
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nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY there were a _lot_ of people looking for a recent debian stable -- ubuntu came first.03:07
randabisYeah most colleges I've seen that teach unix use solaris03:08
cwilluand goes at an angle when I turn bend my head over03:08
ArniaNot that they support any of them03:08
Arnia;)03:08
speelwell i live in nyc so the has to b somthing03:08
randabisThough I have seen them also show students around on Red Hat Linux03:08
cwilluanybody know a good medical irc?03:08
BockBilboim trying to configure nfs, and i need to modify a line in portman's config file which should be in /etc/default/portmap, but it isnt there, anyone knows where can i find it?03:08
biovorespeel, RPI has linux I belive..03:08
ChurcH_of_FOamYnickrud_ thats awsome i recomend it as a great linux starter to get used to03:08
speelrpi?03:08
ChurcH_of_FOamYfor my customers03:08
biovoreRensler polytechnical Instute, it in NY I belive..03:09
randabisBockBilbo: the file isn't there or the line isn't?03:09
BockBilborandabis, the file03:09
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speelhm il check it out03:09
ChurcH_of_FOamYit has to be the easyest linux ever03:09
cwilluBurgundavia, I've just got a bad case of eye strain, I hope03:09
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY I've been using deb stuff for a while, and you (IMHO) are giving a decent pointer at the moment03:09
randabisBockBilbo: you can probably just create the file yourself03:09
cwillubut thanks :)03:09
ChurcH_of_FOamYand for that i'm thankfull to the thousands of people who made it03:09
BockBilbobut, it should have some config info03:09
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ChurcH_of_FOamYthey did a wonderfull job03:09
BockBilboim afraid thats not the solution03:10
biovorethe best linux for learning I belive is slackware.. no fun flurls and shit.. have to go nose to the stone.. or if your nuts theres always linux from scratch03:10
ChurcH_of_FOamYnickrud_ i only endorse software to my customers that i like03:10
cwillubiovore, only for people who like that sort of thing03:10
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ChurcH_of_FOamYand beleve in linux now is the only one03:10
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biovorecwillu, rgr that03:10
cwilluit's like saying you need to do an engine rebuild to learn how to drive a car03:10
ChurcH_of_FOamYit is stable can do more than xp and is free03:11
nickrud_ChurcH_of_FOamY I tried ubuntu based on a few names I heard were associated with it. I follow the rock stars ;)03:11
ChurcH_of_FOamYand that beings the cost of my computers down by 25%03:11
tiglionabbitwhich names?03:11
ChurcH_of_FOamYlol nice03:11
nickrud_james troup, to start03:11
biovorelinux still has some to go..  it great on servers, but as a desktop its got some drawback mainly do to the wintel empire..03:11
randabisBockBilbo: I seriously doubt it will matter. I've done several nfs configurations without needing to even touch that file. If it doesn't work you can just delete it anyway03:11
tiglionabbitsay, does anyone know of a tablet pc I can get that doesn't include windows?03:11
cwilluhmm03:11
Dr_Willistiglionabbit,  i recall a few mo ago a company named "element" i think that sold onw with linux03:12
ChurcH_of_FOamYits nice to be able to give my customers something that actually works03:12
biovorethere are a few tables that work with linux03:12
Dr_Willistiglionabbit,  it was like under $1000 also i think was a big selling point.. but they may not even be around any more.03:12
BockBilbook randabis03:12
BockBilbogonna try it03:12
ChurcH_of_FOamYand dosen't cost an arm and a leg to use03:12
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moparfan90hello03:12
tiglionabbitDr_Willis: weren't those only available in bulk orders of 24 machines?03:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYmy main project is compiling a list of all the linux compatable hardware out there03:13
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cwilluit's not so much that everything that windows has must be on the desktop for it to be usable, more that everything that the desktop says it provides must actually be there and work out of the box03:13
moparfan90does anyone now some good extras that would make my ubuntu linux computer nicer?03:13
randabisBockBilbo: also, ubuntu "may" have that file located somewhere else, not sure03:13
biovoreyou be amazed what works.. :-)03:13
Dr_Willistiglionabbit,  no clue. They aint even on the sites store any more.03:13
cafuegoI think the problem was that manufacturers wanted to ship tablet machines, but customers weren't interested in them.03:13
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, you should talk to ogra03:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYreally?03:13
moparfan90 does anyone now some good extras that would make my ubuntu linux computer nicer?03:13
robertjmoparin: document holder?03:13
biovoreI got the MS sidewinder kinda working..03:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYwho's that?03:13
robertjmoparin: or fuzzy dice03:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYnever met ehr03:13
biovoreif its USB, it doable03:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYor him03:14
Burgundaviamoparfan90, you asked earlier, what sort  of "extras"03:14
Quest-MasterChurcH_of_FOamY: Him :P03:14
moparfan90well anything realy03:14
BockBilborandabis, you where right03:14
BockBilboit wasnt needed03:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh lol03:14
robertjcafuego: I'm very interested in a tablet PC but not a laptop that has a pivoting screen03:14
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, usually they hang out in #ubuntu-motu03:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYi orderd a 100 copys of ubuntu03:14
cafuegomoparfan90: You could glue a large wing to the back and add spoilers down the bottom; maybe also some blue LEDs.03:14
randabisBockBilbo: good :)03:14
cafuegomoparfan90: That will also make it run twice as fast.03:14
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, he is in charge of the hardware database app for ubuntu03:14
Strifewoah woah woah03:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYand can't waite to get them here03:14
Arniamoparfan90: I'd quite like a thermonuclear device, but that's just me ;)03:14
Strifeis there no xnest in the ubuntu repositories?03:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh wow03:14
BurgundaviaStrife, yes there is03:15
cafuego!find Xnest03:15
tiglionabbitStrife: I got xnest from them03:15
ubotuxnest: (nested X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 1348 kB, Installed size: 3492 kB03:15
moparfan90no i ment software.....03:15
Strifehow come it doesn't show up when I search for it then?03:15
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ChurcH_of_FOamYi have 10 stores that will let me put the os on there shelves03:15
Strifeis it a problem since I'm using backports?03:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYfor free03:15
cafuegoStrife: It may be in universe, which you may or may not have in sources.list03:15
moparfan90free03:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYand that rocks so hardcore03:15
tiglionabbitsay, is there a big reason why universe isn't enabled by default?03:16
BockBilbonfs seens easier to configure than samba03:16
cafuegomoparfan90: Start synaptic, have a look at what's there. (all software will slow it down though)03:16
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, if you are talking about promotion, you might want to speak to mako or sabdfl03:16
Quest-Mastertiglionabbit: Legal issues03:16
BurgundaviaQuest-Master, no03:16
ChurcH_of_FOamYare they here?03:16
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, not supported by default03:16
nickrud_tiglionabbit bandwith issues03:16
ChurcH_of_FOamYor in a nother channel03:16
cafuegotiglionabbit: Takes a while to fetch the package file on 56k03:16
cwillutiglionabbit:  and it also keeps beginners out of (unsupported) trouble :)03:16
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FOamY, try #ubuntu-devel03:16
ChurcH_of_FOamYcause yes i am wanting to promote ubuntu03:16
ChurcH_of_FOamYit works....period03:16
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tiglionabbityeah but the thing is, we always have beginners coming in here and asking how to get universe software03:16
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, then they add it03:17
cwilluand then we can explain the issues03:17
Burgundaviatiglionabbit, the solution is make adding it easier, not adding by default03:17
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Strifeno, I have universe in sources.list03:17
moparfan90whats the difference between multiverse and universe for ubuntu?????03:17
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nickrud_I don't think support is an issue in universe, anymore03:17
robertjtig: well stupid kids are always asking how they can get spinning hubcaps but you don't see them as a stock option03:17
Burgundaviamoparfan90, both are unsupported03:17
cwillurather than "ooo... this is neat"  followed by "I wonder what this does?" finished by "ubuntu sucks, I installed one package and the whole thing blew up"03:17
moparfan90what?03:17
biovoremore prackages03:17
Burgundaviamoparfan90, universe is DFSG-free, mulitverse is free like beer03:17
biovorelol, good one..03:17
^thehatsrule^DFSG-free?03:17
randabisBockBilbo: it is easier. :) It's a very tried and true file transfer system03:18
Strifesigh03:18
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robertjDebian Free Software Guideliens03:18
StrifeI'll deal with not having xnest for now03:18
StrifeI'll figure it out later03:18
moparfan90beers not free?03:18
biovorethings like flash03:18
nickrud_Debian Free Software Guidelines, the most resrictive thing out there :)03:18
syrellCan someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher? I used the Screen Resolution menu, but I can't get higher then 1024x768.  Which makes no sense cause I  have a 19" monitor, and a FX5700LE video card I know supports well past 1600x1200.  Anyone help please?03:18
Burgundavianickrud_, no03:18
cafuegomoparfan90: Last time I checked robbing a brewery was a crime.03:18
nickrud_no?03:18
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh yea flash is not free beer03:18
BockBilborandabis, and can i mount a remote share with remote user permits?03:18
godsmokesyrell: edit your xorg/xfree86 config03:18
robertjis there a list of the ubuntu Google projects?03:18
BurgundaviaStrife, there is a good wiki page for it03:18
nickrud_uh, I mean, not in a bad sense03:19
tiglionabbitsyrell: you may need to add those to the Modes lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file03:19
BurgundaviaStrife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:19
ChurcH_of_FOamYsome how they need to make linux versions of non free software03:19
Burgundaviarobertj, yes03:19
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cwilluguh... I _think_ the xorg config will let you do it03:19
cwillubetter than diving into config files03:19
robertjBurgundavia: ooh, where?03:19
Burgundaviarobertj, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties things with Google beside them03:19
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StrifeBurgundavia: yeah thanks... I don't know why I wouldn't have it though since I already have universe, multiverse, and backports03:19
randabisBockBilbo: I believe so.03:19
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: like gaim, openoffice, and wine?03:19
biovoreprobabem is there isn't much deman for linux version of wintel applications..03:19
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea but they should extenbd that to flash mp3 and others03:20
chopehi, i was having this problem "error while loading shared libraries: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file:", now i've installed nvidia-glx drivers, and the problem changed to "relocation error: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000510gl", do you know how could i fix this?03:20
ChurcH_of_FOamYaltho i must say that open office rocks03:20
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, nfs is designed for a simple age, but isn't very secure03:20
ChurcH_of_FOamYand gaim is nice too03:20
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: they are working on flash, but it has to be reverse-engineered due to legal issues03:20
cwillusudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server maybe?  just keep hitting enter for stuff you don't know;  I think the worst that can happen is you end up with the default autodetect settings03:20
ChurcH_of_FOamYof course03:20
tiglionabbitMy friend is working on flash, in fact03:20
BockBilboi dont care about security03:20
biovorechope, what you use to install the nvidia driver APT?03:20
BockBilboim in a home LAN03:20
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, ok03:21
BockBilbobrbr03:21
ChurcH_of_FOamYif it where me i'd say screw the copy right and do it anyways03:21
BockBilbogonna reboot to see how it works03:21
ChurcH_of_FOamYstupid copyrighters03:21
cwilluheh03:21
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: and then you'd get sued03:21
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: if it were possible, they'd do it03:21
cwillutell that to microsft :p03:21
ChurcH_of_FOamYand they's get what no money03:21
ChurcH_of_FOamYcause i'm broke03:21
moparfan90any one good software thats free? thats good03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYand i mean beoke03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYthey can have the mothballs in my wallet03:22
cwilluand so they take any wages you _do_ get for the next while, maybe haul you off to jail for a bit03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYand i have told microcrap to kiss my ass03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYin there forums03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYgothere and search for kisain_pendragon03:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYi left q really vivid verbal review of there os03:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYtelling gates to shove it up his ****03:23
cwillumake a website that offers xp for download and see what happens :p03:23
nickrud_lol, venting can be good03:23
moparfan90do alot of other linux OS's use software like synpaic03:23
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ChurcH_of_FOamYand i bitched at him for contributing to the dumbing down of the world03:23
cwillumoparfan90, it's a debian thing I think03:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYand then suggested that people use linix03:24
moparfan90o03:24
ChurcH_of_FOamY^_^03:24
cwilluthe apt package system03:24
naliothmoparfan90: most debian distros, and some others03:24
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: why not join the flash development team?  I'll find the info when I talk to my friend03:24
moparfan90whats the difference between debian and ubuntu????03:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYi don't know how to programm03:24
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tiglionabbitmoparfan90: ubuntu is newer, and geared toward desktop use03:24
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cwillutiglionabbit:  does he _sound_ like a programmer?  :)03:24
naliothmoparfan90: debian is linux and ubuntu is pimped out debian03:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYi wish i did cause i'd loveto be able to contribute to the linux community03:24
BockBilborandabis, im back03:24
tiglionabbitcwillu: nope03:24
moparfan90ooo03:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYthey have given me so much ^_^03:24
moparfan90i see03:24
nickrud_moparfan90 right now, ubuntu is a frozen version of an old debian unstable.03:25
cwilluI suppose he could be a rc tester (I wouldn't inflict beta on him)03:25
moparfan90ooo03:25
Nameless1i set my computer up with gnome originaly but now im used to kde, the new version of kde is sooo nice.... anyway its not auto mounting my cdroms\dvds i dont know why, it worked in gnome. can someone tell me how to get it to "redetect" them ??03:25
Burgundavianickrud_, sort of correct03:25
naliothmoparfan90: but it's better than the debian unstable in question03:25
ChurcH_of_FOamYrc testor?03:25
nickrud_moparfan90 with, a lot of extra work :)03:25
ChurcH_of_FOamYwhats that?03:25
Burgundavianickrud_, the current Ubuntu stable is based off of Debian unstable03:25
moparfan90oooo   ok03:25
moparfan90:)03:25
Nameless1by the way if someone could tell me how to install cdrdao that would be great too03:25
BockBilboit seens that the fstab line i typed works fine, though i do not have rw access03:25
ChurcH_of_FOamYwho cares it works03:25
tiglionabbitah here it is, GPLFlash: http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/03:26
Burgundaviaand it stays synced off of Unstable until it freezes and releases03:26
naliothNameless1: use apt-get or synaptic03:26
ChurcH_of_FOamYand thats all it needs to do is work03:26
tiglionabbitword on that, ChurcH_of_FOamY03:26
Burgundaviaand now breezy syncs to unstable03:26
naliothtiglionabbit: and good luck using gpl flash03:26
moparfan904th july today :):):):):)03:26
nickrud_Burgundavia yeah, I'm aware of that, and I do value the extra labor :)03:26
Burgundavianickrud_, yes03:26
tiglionabbitnalioth: =P I'm not using it, but my friend is trying to develop it so he can get flash on his amd6403:26
Nameless1nalioth: i know that but its not working for this specific file03:26
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cwilluhow is ubuntu on the 64 bit platforms?03:26
syrelltiglionabbit: i made those changes you made to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf - to i just reload the shell to have my changes propogate?03:27
ChurcH_of_FOamYso whats an rc testeer?03:27
cwillua made up word :)03:27
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh ok03:27
tiglionabbitcwillu: good, but bad.  Some things you have to install multiple libraries for, install a 32 bit version where a 64 bit one doesn't exist03:27
cwillubeta tester is testing stuff which works but isn't finished or bug tested yet03:27
syrelltiglionabbit: *changes you suggested rather03:27
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh ok03:27
tiglionabbitsyrell: in order for those changes to take effect, you will have to kill X.  Log out and log back in03:27
moparfan90anyone have alot of free time to teaxh me something?????????????????03:27
moparfan90teach*03:27
cwillurc is short for 'release candidate', which is usually the final push to release... few bugs, already stable, just minor middly details usually03:28
ChurcH_of_FOamYit's weard i tryed a dozen distro's used every version of windows including longhorn03:28
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tiglionabbitsyrell: you may need to hit control-alt-backspace while you're staring at GDM03:28
BockBilborandabis, any idea of how to make it rw for average users?03:28
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ChurcH_of_FOamYand ubuntu is the only one i beleve in03:28
syrelltiglionabbit: thanks for your help. hope this works :)03:28
naliothNameless1: what is it telling you?03:28
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: longhorn...  isn't released until 2008, is it?03:28
pinkobelieve in?03:28
ChurcH_of_FOamYcorrect03:28
moparfan90anyone have alot of free time to teach me something?????????????????03:28
tiglionabbitso how'd you try it?03:28
cwillumoparfan90:  you'll have more luck if you just blurt it out03:29
ChurcH_of_FOamYi was a beta tester for microsoft >.<03:29
naliothmoparfan90: depends on the subjec03:29
moparfan90programming03:29
pinkomoparfan90: small amounts of time for small precise questions03:29
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FOamY: what did you think of it?  Oh, and how did you get that position?03:29
naliothtiglionabbit: if we're lucky, 201003:29
cafuegotiglionabbit: with bittorrent you can test _any_ os release.03:29
tiglionabbitcafuego: rofl03:29
cwilluLOL03:29
ChurcH_of_FOamYi applyed for it at microsfts website03:29
ChurcH_of_FOamYyou have to sighn a contract though03:29
naliothtiglionabbit: what?! WE are ALL beta testers for microshaft03:29
Nameless1Package cdrdao is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:29
Nameless1This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:29
Nameless1is only available from another source03:29
Nameless1E: Package cdrdao has no installation candidate03:29
tiglionabbitcafuego: think I could get a nintendo DS dev kit from bittorrent?03:29
cafuegoand with bittorrent you won't need to PAY to beta test either ;-)03:29
ChurcH_of_FOamYthat basicly puts a gag order on you03:30
cafuegotiglionabbit: Yes03:30
moparfan90ok.. anyone have alot of ime to teach me programming?????????03:30
ChurcH_of_FOamYvioplating that=prison time03:30
Nameless1nalioth: that other package is installed too03:30
cwilluNameless1, is that off apt-get/synaptic?03:30
tiglionabbitcafuego: I wish I knew where...03:30
naliothmoparfan90: pay attention03:30
naliothNameless1: open a terminal03:30
cafuegoChurcH_of_FOamY: Honestly, running any windows version is prison enough03:30
cwillu(nevermind)03:30
Nameless1apt-get but trust me i have tried both and cant find the cdrdao thing03:30
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naliothNameless1: are all your repos enabled?03:30
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SkywindDid someone know how to restrict normal user restart computer on Gnome? (I removed S bit of shutdown, halt alreadey)03:30
I-IIEarsNameles1 - i got it using Synaptic yesterday using synaptic - huh.03:30
cwilluapt-get/synaptic is the same thing03:30
moparfan90nalioth: to what?03:31
ChurcH_of_FOamYcafugo true that man true that03:31
Nameless1i asked for help on this earlier and got a apt command but it was not install and that worked since then i formated and forgot the command03:31
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cwilludid you have it on there already?03:31
naliothmoparfan90: am fixin to teach Nameless1 something03:31
Nameless1i think it was apt-get *something starting with a* cdrdao03:31
moparfan90o03:31
nickrud_moparfan90 sure, $85 us an hour, with no promis you'll learn anything :)03:31
naliothNameless1: do you have all your repos enabled?03:31
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea i know tons of stuff i just can't talk about it03:31
cwilluor have you added others?03:31
Nameless1repos?03:31
ChurcH_of_FOamYbut i'll let you in on some stuf if you pm me03:31
cwillurepositories\03:31
I-IIEars"Repositories" - file sites03:32
flodinecan i update to a new kernel in ubuntu03:32
moparfan90well. i want for someone to help me lean it.   i kno there someone out there thats nice .... and that wont charge me..03:32
nalioths_dogNameless1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:32
Nameless1probably not, but i did set it up i added a url to the repositorys thing thru a text editor if thats what u mean03:32
nickrud_repositories = web addresses where packages are found03:32
zcatmoparfan90, teach yourself Python. it's easy.03:32
nalioths_dogNameless1: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:32
I-IIEarsNameless1 - If you use Synaptic i can walk you through it.03:32
moparfan90whats python used for?03:32
Nameless1i added a repository but it was not the official one03:32
Burgundaviamoparfan90, a lot03:32
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: python is a scripting/programming language03:32
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: it has its own openGL implementation03:33
cwilluNameless1, what are you trying to install again?03:33
Nameless1cdrdao03:33
naliothI-IIEars: i beleive Nameless1 will need to build it using apt get soucrc -b03:33
moparfan90for what03:33
I-IIEarscdrdao03:33
moparfan90?03:33
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nickrud_moparfan90 as far I as I've found, python is the 'official' glue for ubuntu03:33
zcatmoparfan90, the official bittorrent is written in python, for example. so is the redhat anaconda installer.03:33
cwilluin synaptic, right click on the package and pull up the dependencies03:33
moparfan90o03:34
zcatChurcH_of_FOamY, you proud of your 'secrets' eh? heh03:34
nalioth_wrknmoparfan90: i'll teach you something later03:34
cwilluand then dependant packages03:34
ChurcH_of_FOamYzcat not really03:34
moparfan90i want to evenualy make a game with some other people so.. what do i need for that03:34
moparfan90?03:34
BockBilboBurgundavia, do you know how to make the mounted nfs files rw for normal users?03:34
Nameless1nalioth_wrkn: i dont think i looked in the source repositarys so i think that will work03:34
nalioth_wrknI-IIEars: if you want to help Nameless1 out03:34
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, no idea03:35
I-IIEarsapt-get? - erm - i use synaptic.03:35
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zcatmoparfan90, google 'pygame'. that's the easiest way to get started.03:35
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Nameless1i have been searchin in synapt for the file too.... its not comin up03:35
moparfan90ok03:35
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cwilluI think you've lost a repo03:35
Nameless1this happend before and i was told to type apt-get *something starting with a* cdrdao  that WORKED03:36
Nameless1does anyone know what that something was03:36
cwillujust search for cdrdao03:36
moparfan90is pygame good fo a first person shooter???03:36
cwillui've got it showing up in mine... if it doesn't in yours then a repository is missing03:36
biovoreno03:36
Nameless1cwillu:  ihave been doin that...03:36
biovorecheck out DSL moparfan9003:36
biovore(SDL)03:36
biovorelibsdl.org03:36
cwilluokay, pull up your repository list03:36
biovoreor pester icculurs..03:37
moparfan90dsl?? i have cable?03:37
biovoreSDL03:37
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moparfan90o03:37
moparfan90whats that03:37
I-IIEarsNameless1 CDRDAO.deb dpkg -i   ??     http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/cdrdao.html03:37
biovorea libary and code for media access.. like Direct X for linux03:37
moparfan90whats SDL?03:37
biovoregot some cool code samples..03:37
biovorehttp://www.libsdl.org/index.php  <-- read03:38
biovoreit what all the game porter use to port games from windows to linux03:38
biovoreUT uses this in linux03:38
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moparfan90o03:39
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I-IIEars"Cedega Headache" - someone please pass the aspirin bottle.. - lol03:39
nickrud_cwillu take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//ExampleConffiles, it has a good repository/section section03:39
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biovorecedega == crap03:39
cwillunickrud_... wrong guy :p03:39
nickrud_heh, soorry :)03:39
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moparfan90biovore: whats a goood windows emulator then???03:39
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cwillumoparfan90, what do you need to run?03:40
moparfan90i want to run hl203:41
moparfan90half life 203:41
cwilluhmm03:41
biovorewell all of them emulate windows perfectly.. they crash all the fucking time..03:41
I-IIEars"2.4 kernel is recommended for stability" - DOH! (slaps forehead)03:41
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biovoreHL2 + linux == sucks03:41
nickrud_moparfan90 in my experience, there is no good windows emulator, although win tries, and qemu almost gets there03:41
cafuegoVia emulation? Did you want  aframe rate higher then 4?03:41
cwilluTransgaming is your best bet;  it's a wine fork with good directX support03:41
biovoreI did it with cedega03:41
cwillubut it's not free as in beer (and not quite free as in freedom)03:41
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biovoresteam works under cedega ok,, the game runs slow under cedega03:41
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cwillulike 5 bucks a month or so I think03:42
moparfan90i have cedega via CVS and it suck balls03:42
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biovoreif you want to pay for it..03:42
biovoreBT03:42
biovorehttp://www.timedoctor.org/gimps/byjvalenzu/winex.jpg03:42
I-IIEarsIf Cedega ever runs for me i am going to make a backupchisleled in stone. - this is a lot of work.03:42
jujuHi I just install kde Kubuntu in my ubuntu box but I have a problem with the video card .The display is showing me that I have the option to chose from 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 .But kde it did set up at 640x480 and that is to big but when I tried to configure the display  with gui because I do not know the shell,I got stuck the display is to big and the radio for the apply the change is way down the window and is not reachable so there is no way03:43
biovoreI don't like cedega, rather have a native port03:43
^thehatsrule^same03:43
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freddyif i downloaded Adobe Acrobat..where is the right place to install stuff i download?03:43
^thehatsrule^most games emulated reduces my performance more than half03:43
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moparfan90desktop03:43
cwillufreddy, you want to find .deb files if you can at all03:43
cafuegofreddy: I';m sure there's an acroread package in restricted03:43
Burgundaviafreddy, use apt to install it03:43
I-IIEarsbiovore - "" UT99 - UT2k4 run better than in windows03:43
moparfan90oo03:43
cafuego!info acroread03:43
freddylike it has a installer script...where should i point all the stuff i want to instal?03:43
biovoreyeah HL2 isn't playable under cedega03:43
ubotuacroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 5.10-0.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 8956 kB, Installed size: 25228 kB03:43
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biovoreyeah,, I have UT2k4 here.. works like a champ in linux03:44
cafuegomultiverse even03:44
adwaitcan someone help me her? apt-get is not working here...03:44
freddyoh ok i got it....but what if i want to install it with the installer script?03:44
biovoreicculus did a awsome job with UT03:44
cafuegofreddy: Add multiverse to sources.list and 'apt-get install acroread'03:44
freddyis there a place where all the appl should go?03:44
nickrud_adwait what's the problem?03:44
cafuegofreddy: You don't want to install it with the installer script.03:44
adwaitits just shows connecting to archives.ubuntu.com and gets stuck at 0%....synaptic works sometimes, other times its the same with it03:44
freddyyes i want lol03:44
cwilluwith apt/deb/dpkg/synaptic, everything happens automagically03:44
freddywell i already did03:44
cafuegofreddy: Well, wasn't that clever.03:44
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whiprushadwait: try a mirror instead, like us.archive.ubuntu.com03:45
nickrud_adwait sounds like a network problem03:45
freddy:(03:45
freddyi just want to know if there is a place03:45
moparfan90whats kubuntu???03:45
freddybut ok03:45
adwaitnickrud_:which port does apt-get use? which protocol?03:45
biovoreintresstingly enough, UT2k4 run really fucking fast with freebsd+nvidia+Xfree8603:45
cafuegofreddy: Now you have files on the system that dpkgsynaptic don't know about03:45
biovore200FPS + on my box03:45
cwillufreddy, there is03:45
adwaitwhiprush: ill try it...03:45
freddyoh thats what i want to know03:45
nickrud_adwait it uses ftp or http, it's defined in /etc/apt/sources.list03:45
cafuegofreddy: /usr/local03:45
cwilluthe debian standard standardizes most of it... best bet is to look it up on the web03:45
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moparfan90whats kubuntu???03:46
freddy/usr/local is a good place03:46
cafuegofreddy: But if there is a PREPCKAGED version, you OF COURSE use that instead.03:46
nickrud_whiprush is right, try another mirror.03:46
ubuntu__Is there any way to eject the cd during a live cd session?03:46
biovorekubuntu is ubuntu + kde03:46
freddymoparfan90, ubuntu with kde03:46
cwillufreddy:  but the whole point of the aformentioned standard is that you don't even have to do it by hand, or script03:46
adwaitok....nickrud_, then it can't really be network thing because http and ftp work fine everywhere else........so it can't have anything to do with my router firewall03:46
moparfan90whats kde?03:46
cwilluthe prepackaged versions will end up with all the files and menus in the right places03:46
freddycwillu, awesome03:46
biovorewww.kde.org03:46
freddycafuego, i got it thanks man03:46
I-IIEarsmoparfan - kubuntu = KDE desktop you can add it to ubuntu if you like without a reinstall using synaptic03:46
nickrud_adwait no, the network problem is probably the mirror you are trying to get from.03:46
biovoredesktop manager, very eye candy like03:46
freddybut the palce is /usr/local03:46
nickrud_adwait what general geographic region are you in?03:47
moparfan90oooo03:47
I-IIEarsmoparfan - it's a little more like windows03:47
adwaitnickrud_:well......when i try to go to archives.ubuntu.com thru the browser, i can open the site fine03:47
moparfan90o03:47
biovoreapt-get install kde ... done :-)03:47
adwaitnickrud_: asia.........i am in India03:47
I-IIEarsadwait - Wow! the internet is awesome. - grin03:48
biovorelol03:48
freddyawesome...acrobat reader have the same version for windows mac and linux03:48
freddythats nice03:48
biovoreyup..03:48
adwaitI-IIEarsL why? :S03:48
adwaitooh.....ok...cuz u hvnt probably met anyone from india.....:)03:49
biovorehe may have not..03:49
tiglionabbitfreddy: there are a lot of better pdf readers for linux than adobe acrobat03:49
moparfan90whats better gnome of kde?03:49
biovorethat a oppion03:49
I-IIEarsadwait - I can talk with people never posible otherwise. - chatted with a syrian a few weeks ago.03:49
biovoredepends03:49
jujukde03:49
freddykde my butt03:49
freddy:P03:49
biovorelol03:50
biovoresee what I mean03:50
adwaithehe03:50
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: don't ask "better" questions03:50
jujuoh come on03:50
moparfan90ok03:50
biovoreI talk with people around the world all the time..03:50
nickrud_adwait does aptitude update get an update in a reasonable time?03:50
moparfan90boss03:50
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: try them both and see what you think03:50
biovore<-- HAM03:50
moparfan90how03:50
adwaitok......now i added the us.archive.ubuntu.com resource......now it wont let it me update the repo03:50
nickrud_adwait sudo aptitude update03:50
adwaitapt-get update won't work......says :cant get lock........"03:50
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-dekstop03:50
tiglionabbit*desktop03:50
biovoreyou root adwait?03:50
tiglionabbitand then switch sessions at gdm03:50
tiglionabbityou can have them both03:51
moparfan90i use sypatic03:51
nickrud_adwait do you have synaptic open?03:51
adwaitbiovore: yes03:51
adwaitnickrud_ no....03:51
moparfan90no03:51
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: same difference03:51
biovoreaptitude?03:51
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adwaitnope.03:51
nickrud_adwait make sure you have no apt-get, aptitude or synaptic sessions open03:51
biovorehung apt running?03:51
jujuviva kde03:51
moparfan90will that mess up whats there already03:52
moparfan90??03:52
adwaitnickrud_check03:52
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: no03:52
nickrud_adwait if you are absolutely sure of that, then, what are the dpkg and aptitude lock files? (I can't remember off hand)03:52
adwait Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:52
moparfan90how do i have both?03:52
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: both ubuntu and kubuntu can happily coexist.  You can get xfce4 too while you're at it03:52
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: it just installs both, and then you can switch which one you want to use by clicking on Sessions when you log in03:52
moparfan90whats xfce4?03:53
freddywonder if cedega is worthy buying03:53
adwaitnickrud_: no idea......03:53
nickrud_adwait does ls /var/lib/apt/lists/lock exist?03:53
freddywonder if cedega is worthbuying03:53
virtualddoes anyone know of a music player for the console that supports mp3, ogg vorbis, flac, mod, xm, s3m and it? or at least 2 of them.03:53
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: another window manager, like kde or gnome03:53
biovoreI had it for a bit..03:53
moparfan90o03:53
biovoredepends..03:53
adwaitnickrud_: it does03:53
moparfan90i like gnome so.. il stay03:53
nickrud_adwait then, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/locks03:53
nickrud_adwait then, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock03:53
freddyanyone uses cedega?03:53
freddyi wonder if its worth buying it03:54
I-IIEarsmoparfan90 - you will need to choose your default sound server and display manager tho after you can boot to any style desk you like.03:54
freddydont they have like a trial or something?03:54
freddyhrmm...gonna check the site03:54
jujuhow to reconfigure the resolution display with a shell03:54
tiglionabbitjuju: edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:54
adwaitnickrud_: ok...tht worked.......but i am still stuck at 0%03:54
adwait:p03:54
biovoreedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:54
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jujuok03:54
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nickrud_adwait then, most likely the mirror you are using is not responding, try another03:55
LuakagonI need help connecting my ubuntu laptop to the internet with a dialup connection03:55
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I-IIEarsjuju - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. - enter your pci bus settings exactly as you see them add an extra zero if needed.03:55
tiglionabbitjuju: there should be several lines that start with the word "Modes".  You can add other resolutions as strings on here.  You will have to kill X for these to take effect, and it will usually use the largest resolution your monitor is happy with03:55
tiglionabbitjuju: or lister to I-IIEars, that's probably an easier method03:55
BockBilbois there any goo download manager for gnome?03:55
tiglionabbitgoo?03:56
adwaitnickrud_ well.....i can visit security.ubuntu.com thru the browser......so....:S03:56
I-IIEarstiglionabitt - six of one - a half dozen of the other they are about the same difficulty.03:56
nickrud_adwait yeah, I kinda passed over your mention of getting to archive with the web browser :)03:57
adwaitnickrud_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/41003:57
I-IIEarsjuju - How is it going so far?03:58
tiglionabbitsay, I-IIEars, what behavior does running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and hitting escape at every message box cause?03:58
moparfan90bye every one03:58
nickrud_adwait the 1.0.0.0 addresses throws me.03:58
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tiglionabbitdoes it modify anything while you are configuring it, or write things afterward?03:59
Lokadinhello,03:59
adwaitnickrud_: hmm.....yeah....but tht should be coming from my DNS server right?03:59
I-IIEarstiglionabbit - (shrug> dunno - it can't be to bad haven't been iradiated. - lol03:59
adwaitnickrud_: ,aybe i should add the ip address directly to repos?03:59
nickrud_adwait yes, and, I have a rule that I don't know shit about networking, except to say that can't be right :)03:59
I-IIEarstiglionabbit - it asks for confirmation to write a config file04:00
jujud04:00
adwaithehe...04:00
LokadinI have a problem with my samba if i type smb://igor@laptop/My Documents it tell me that it can not display all the files and displays none, but if i put the IP address of the laptop then it shows up fine after asking me the password04:00
Lokadindoes anyone know what might be the problem?04:00
adwaitwell anybody eles tigllionbit? is it ok if i directly add ip addresses to the repos list?04:00
tiglionabbitsay guys04:00
tiglionabbitthere are a lot of programs that, when I run them from terminal, blurt out about 18 lines of this: http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/04:01
tiglionabbitoops04:01
tiglionabbitI mean this04:01
tiglionabbit/usr/share/themes/expose/gtk-2.0/icons/iconrc:5: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "gnome-stock-gnome-run.png"04:01
jujuetc/X11/xorg.conf is enty04:01
tiglionabbit=P two ways to paste in linux, always get em confused04:01
Lokadindoes anyone here use samba/04:01
Lokadin?04:01
nickrud_tiglionabbit do you have expose as your theme?04:01
tiglionabbitnickrud_: no04:01
tiglionabbitnickrud_: but there are a crapload of programs that complain about missing pixmaps04:01
nickrud_tiglionabbit heh, then, it's your fun ;)04:02
tiglionabbitwhat?04:02
nickrud_tiglionabbit I've fought and loved themes for a while04:02
tiglionabbitubuntu should add a theme-editor or something.  How do I edit themes anyway?04:03
nickrud_tiglionabbit for fun, I'd try doing a locate on gnome-stock-gnome-run.png, then put it into the error path, and see what happens04:03
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bluefoxicyhttps://site-edit.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=libdvdcss&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterD04:04
bluefoxicyefinition&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReference&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReferenceFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQ&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterGlossary&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowTo&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowToFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLink&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLinkFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorial&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCent04:04
tiglionabbitoh I see04:04
bluefoxicyerTutorialFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialPage&portal_type%3Alist=Image&portal_type%3Alist=Large+Plone+Folder&portal_type%3Alist=Link&portal_type%3Alist=News+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Plone+Site&portal_type%3Alist=TempFolder&portal_type%3Alist=Topic&portal_type%3Alist=Wiki+Page&Creator=&submit=Search04:04
bluefoxicyACK04:04
bluefoxicywhat the hell?04:04
tiglionabbitwhoa blue, careful there04:04
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regeyagood lord04:04
bluefoxicytiglionabbit:  that's a search uri from Ubuntu's wiki site04:04
xeiroLOL04:04
bluefoxicyI didn't know it was more than 150 chars long.04:04
xeiroGood lord indeed04:04
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regeyaever heard of tinyurl?04:04
tiglionabbitanyway, I just noticed, the theme I currently have applied has icons by that name04:04
bluefoxicybut anyway it returns an entry to RestrictedFormats, which does not exist.04:04
tiglionabbitonly they're in my .icons folder04:05
bluefoxicyI'm trying to watch a dvd04:05
moparfan90can ubunu open .rar   files???04:05
LokadinI have a problem with my samba if i type smb://igor@laptop/My Documents it tell me that it can not display all the files and displays none, but if i put the IP address of the laptop then it shows up fine after asking me the password04:05
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bluefoxicyso I need libdvdcss with decryption for dvds04:05
bluefoxicyand I can't find the repository via google.04:05
tiglionabbitbluefoxicy: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?04:05
moparfan90can ubunu open .rar   files???04:05
moparfan90can ubunu open .rar   files???04:05
moparfan90sorry04:05
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bluefoxicytiglionabbit:  yes thanks.  It was sending me to site-edit.ubuntulinux.org04:05
tiglionabbitmoparfan90: yes, it can.  Get unrar-nonfree04:05
bluefoxicywhich google took me to.04:05
HrdwrBoBmoparfan90: install unrar-nonfree04:05
bluefoxicyI didn't notice.04:05
jujuthank you04:06
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tiglionabbitmoparfan90: or some other variant of unrar, whatever it needs.  Any extractor, such as file-roller, should be able to use these once they're installed04:06
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tiglionabbityou know, one thing I like about linux is, some programs magically work in ways they didn't before after you install certain things.  It's great04:07
tiglionabbitso much sharing04:07
tiglionabbitsaves me disk space too04:07
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freddybrb04:08
tiglionabbitso anyway, uh, what is the proper way to install my icon theme, so that programs don't complain and crap04:08
nickrud_~/.icons is supposed to work, it the icon theme is made correctly04:09
tiglionabbit=\04:09
nickrud_iirc, /usr/local/share/icons works too04:09
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tiglionabbit/usr/share/themes/expose/gtk-2.0/icons/iconrc04:10
tiglionabbitwhy's it always doing that04:10
tiglionabbitunable to locate image file in pixmap path04:10
nickrud_I'd say a bad icon theme04:10
tiglionabbitwhat's the pixmap path?04:10
bryanevening all, any one have experience with modem issues?04:10
LuakagonI cant find my modem but its listed in lspci help please04:11
tiglionabbitsay, how do I edit icon themes, you know, mix and match, and have it apply a certain icon to every reference to an application, and such things04:11
nickrud_tiglionabbit I'd look for more info on icon themes on art.gnome.org, I think there's a howto or something there04:11
tiglionabbitLuakagon: is it listed in network-admin ?04:11
nickrud_tiglionabbit lol, I would love to put together a custom icon theme04:12
nickrud_I truly wish I never had to sleep.04:13
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adwaitnickrud_: lol04:13
adwaitbryan: like what?04:13
bryanadwait: ive run pppconfig but still cant get an internet connection04:14
speelberkeley college was the college that created bsd correct?04:15
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tiglionabbityou know, what I'd really like is a theme that actually puts icons on the KDE programs too, instead of making them those ugly 'blank window with a blue titlebar' icons...04:15
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speel?04:15
tiglionabbitis there a way to put a set of KDE icons into a set of gnome icons?04:16
tiglionabbitI suppose I could just open the tar.gz and shove them in there...04:16
tiglionabbitand then install it04:16
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tiglionabbitis there any way to make it apply icons to all the un-iconed KDE programs that isn't a pain in the ass?04:18
freddyok this is bizarre...i can see my windows network...on my main computer...and on my laptop....but i cant get the laptop to see the main computer and they are both ubuntu =/04:18
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user00265is there other archive server other than the two that archive.ubuntu.com point to? those things are like a slug...04:19
spring??04:20
springhow can i setup my resolution of the screen?04:21
springnow my screen is 640*480,oop!04:21
moparfan90system -> pre. -> screen res.04:21
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tiglionabbitfreddy: is anything shared on the main computer?04:21
nickrud_supposely freedesktop.org is creating/has created a standard for icons, and, i think, gnome 2.12 will use it04:22
tiglionabbitcool04:22
springit can't ,there just one choice 640*48004:22
tiglionabbitwow, things are getting better yay04:22
moparfan90oo04:22
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springmy display card is 865G04:22
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nickrud_well, just more things to understand, just, this iteration should be more understandable :)04:23
moparfan90spring: then intall your graphics card then try it04:23
freddyhow the hell do i go about sharing files with my laptop and my desktop? =/04:23
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bryanspring: is it an lcd screen by any chance?04:24
tiglionabbitspring: go edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:24
springyes ,a LCD 15"04:24
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nickrud_freddy, if noone answers, ask again, will you, I'm just about to get a laptop :)04:24
freddynickrud_, lol04:24
cvacwhat is the min amount of memory I would need to install ubuntu04:24
BockBilbobye04:24
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bryanspring: the trick i figured out after many hours (and a good bit of help here) was to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and be sure to specify "16" when you get to a part about screen depth...04:25
bryanworked for me04:25
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krodhello, why is apt-get giving me this error:04:26
adwaitkrod:......which error04:27
macintoshrim setting up a channel at the moment called ipizza for users of alternative operating systems04:27
macintoshri.e. not Microsoft windows04:27
krodPackage nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:27
krodThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:27
krodis only available from another source04:27
krodE: Package nmap has no installation candidate04:27
macintoshrdont have many users so far...04:27
macintoshrits #ipizza on irc.oz.org04:27
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krodmacintoshr, stop spamming :P04:27
adwaitkrod: right........when i get tht error i start looking for websites to download the file i want :)04:27
macintoshrok04:27
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krodadwait, it worked on my laptop, but not here on my desktop04:28
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krodand the sources.list are the same04:28
adwaitdunno the cause of tht error thoughh.it probably means that the software is not there in the repostories, but it is reffered to as a dependencie by some other software04:28
adwaitkrod: hmm.......no idea.....04:28
adwaitanyone else have an idea04:28
adwait?04:28
bryanis there a way to force winmodem to work in ubuntu...04:29
freddybut i dont get it04:29
freddydo i need samba to share files between ubuntu and ubuntu? O_o04:30
freddythats......odd04:30
HrdwrBoBno04:30
HrdwrBoByou can use NFS04:30
freddyyes but that includes an installation too04:30
freddyhehe04:30
freddyi thought they understood themself by default04:30
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freddyand how about setting up NFS?04:32
freddyneed for speed lol04:32
HrdwrBoBNetwork File System04:32
adwait!HeyThere04:32
HrdwrBoBsearch on the wiki04:32
ubotuadwait: I haven't a clue04:32
adwaithey when everyone recommended linewire to me for p2p.......it was www.limewire.com right?04:32
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moparfan90how do you install limewire on ubuntu04:33
moparfan90?04:33
freddydownload the bin?04:34
adwaitmoparfan90: either download the rpm and convert using alien........or download the zip file and just unzip it04:34
adwaitdoes limewire keep opening its website and showing ads? i dunno if i have got the correct limewire or some kind of clone? does limewire have a clone?04:34
adwait*does limewire have a pro version?04:35
moparfan90how do you use alien???04:35
adwaitsudo alien <filename>04:35
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adwaitit can convert from rpm,slp etc to deb04:36
moparfan90how??04:36
adwaitafter tht u can use dpkg to install the software04:36
moparfan90how do u use it?04:36
adwaitsudo dpkg -i <filename.deb>04:36
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adwaitbut alien doesnt always to a good job..........so its to be used only if u hv no option04:37
kdptheres this really great command line program that gives little witty "What happened today in History" type things...what is it called and can i get the source code?04:37
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adwaitin case of limewire.....u can download the zip file04:37
moparfan90which one is zip. the windows?04:37
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HrdwrBoBkdp: I don't know and yes, though if you want a more comprehensive list, see wikipedia04:37
adwaitmorpfan90: no the last one........04:38
kdpaw but this one isnt online.04:38
adwaitfor other OSs04:38
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adwaitLimewire = my first adware program in linux :(04:39
kdpHrdwrBoB: is the source code for all the applications kept somewhere?04:39
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thenostradamusi haven't had any adware with limewire04:39
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guatenaiseverybody can help me04:41
j_fletcherI've just reinstalled ubuntu for the 3rd time in 24 hours, nautilus was messing up, and the only thing I> could see was that I was fiddling with apt-get trying to get things (such as python2.4 and python-gnome) to use gdesklets04:41
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moparfan90how do yo install limewire?04:41
j_fletcheranybody know of a reason?04:41
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guatenaiscan you help me04:42
j_fletchermoparfan90: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire04:42
j_fletchereasy guide there04:42
EquinoxTrying to apt-get(after some disk issues) I'm getting E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive..04:42
EquinoxAny way to regenerate these files?04:42
moparfan90ok04:42
moparfan90thanks04:42
springI change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manully , but my screen is still 640*480?04:42
springwhy?04:42
j_fletcheryou'll need to apt-get sun-j2re1.5 though moparfan9004:42
kdpoh! now i remember what the command was.  calendar.04:42
guatenaissomebody can help me04:43
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moparfan90ok04:43
j_fletcherno doubt someone can help me too, it's just an unorthadox hour, guatenais04:43
j_fletcherwell, in Europe anyway04:43
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guatenaisyes04:44
guatenaiscan you help me fletcher04:44
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guatenaismaybe i can help you04:44
j_fletcherokay04:44
j_fletcheryou read my question04:44
j_fletcheri'll read yours04:44
j_fletcheroh wait, you'll have to repeat, yours was before I connected.04:45
springI need help about my screen resolution04:45
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lucasr|outhi all04:45
lucasr|outabout livecds04:45
j_fletcherspring: probably a case of drivers if it only gives low res options04:45
lucasr|outhow do i avoid making non-ascii chars to become trash on ubuntu livecd boot messages?04:45
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springmy board is intel 865GV04:46
lucasr|outf1, f2, ..., f1004:46
adwaitspring: download latest dirvers/ run sudp dpg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg04:46
adwait*dpkg-reconfigure-sserver-xorg04:46
adwaitsudo04:47
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springi'll try ,thanks04:47
lucasr|outGmanAFK, ping04:48
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Eman_hi all04:51
adwaithi Eman_04:52
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Eman_hi adwait04:52
knoppixis there anyway to resize ext3? QTParted and GParted don't seem to like resizing ext3 =/04:52
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j_fletcherdoes somebody have a sources.list that can actually download python 2.4?04:52
adwaitknoppix: resizing is possible only if it is in an LVM i believe04:53
guatenais hello04:53
knoppixwhat is LVM?04:53
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guatenaishello fletcher04:53
freddyhow can i change the permissions of a directory if its belongs to root? its my share directory to share with the other computers...but the stuff made it for root...well i made it =/04:53
j_fletcheryes04:53
guatenais what happend04:53
adwaitknopppix: Logical Volume Manager..........its a way in which u can keep ur partition flexible, ....04:53
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othernoobhow secure is a fresh installed ubuntu?04:54
adwaitotherwise u have to back up data/ delete/ recreate partition/ copy back data04:54
springI use the dpkg ,but it quit abnormally04:54
adwaitothernoob: as secure as any other linux distro..........ie: VERY04:54
freddy*cough*04:54
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xterminusothernoob, it tends to have the latest stuff, so pretty secure04:54
odie5533How do I use LVM?04:54
adwaitspring: wht error message did u get? are u trying to run dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg?04:55
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othernoobthanks04:55
adwaitodie5533: u hv to make the partions with LVM while installing linux.....or otherwise in general while partioning ur disk04:55
springyes,but it just quit in half04:55
adwaitspring: u cant run tht while xerver is running04:55
odie5533adwait: Is there anyway around using LVM? And how do I use it to partition disks in general?04:56
adwaitspring: press Ctrl+Alt+Spacebar (I think) to turn xserver off......then run the command sudo dpkg-recinfigure-xserver-xorg04:56
xterminusodie5533, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/04:56
springoh i know , then i must logout the gnome first. inlevel 3 to run it?04:56
adwaitspring: yeah.......and fail safe terminal will do.......otherwise like i said ctrl+alt+spacebad04:57
freddyhow can i change the permissions on a directory if it belongs to root ? :(04:57
adwait*spacebar04:57
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adwaitspring: to change run level....sudo init 304:57
adwaitfreddy: using sudp04:57
springok , i 'll tyr it again. thanks04:57
adwait*sudo04:57
Tufekhi, Is Colony CD 2 new version ubuntu or no?04:57
freddyyes but i dont know what the command is adwait04:57
geargolemwhat is apache?04:57
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freddyweb server04:58
geargolemwhat does it do?04:58
adwaitfreddy: sudo chmod <permission u want to add/revoke> <filename>04:58
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adwaitgeargolem: u see all those websites on the net? well a web server is used to run those sites.......thats wht apache does04:58
geargolemwhat is the benefit of using Apache?04:59
sasquatc4i keep getting an error when i do apt-get upgrades, it keeps trying to install a kernel version that i already have installed, im just wondering how to keep it from constantly trying to update the kernel to that version04:59
sasquatc4Errors were encountered while processing:04:59
sasquatc4/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10-34.3_i386.deb04:59
sasquatc4E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:59
j_fletchersasquatc4: i get errors too, just like that04:59
adwaitgeargolem: well it is the most widely used webserver....if u r asking in terms of performance, i believe it is a multuthreading webserver and u can add mysql/php and all other supprts as u want04:59
sasquatc4good to know its not just me04:59
sasquatc4just been pissin me off lately04:59
j_fletcherbut for python, I'm trying to upgrade to 2.4 so that I can actually run stuff05:00
geargolemadwait, in laymens terms if you please.05:00
speelgeargolem, most companys use it because its reliability,flexiblility,and most importantly its performance05:00
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adwaitgeargolem: in layman's terms, u don't really need apache unless you want to host a website on your own computer05:00
speelcompanies*05:00
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geargolemthanks people05:01
speelNp05:01
jtan325what are some icon sets that people use? and where'd you get them from?05:01
j_fletchersasquatc4: also, my nautilus has just buggered up, that happened to you?05:01
adwaitnp05:01
sasquatc4naw, it happened once to me, but it fixed it self after reboot05:01
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adwaitjtan325: icons come with themes in gnome05:01
speeljtan325, you can get icons and such at http://www.gnome-look.org/05:01
The_bellmani compiled gtkpod 0.91 from source, but it can't read mp4s it says "You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library." what does that mean?05:01
sasquatc4my system keeps thinkin it still has the 386 kernel on here, which i removed a while back, so it keeps adding it to the grub menu as well, which is also a hassle05:01
jtan325i know i knwo05:02
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jtan325just seeing if there were others that aren't on gnome-look05:02
jtan325or kde-look05:02
j_fletcheromg05:02
adwaitsasquatc4: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the part which pertains to the option u dont want...05:02
sasquatc4yea, ive done that05:02
j_fletcheranyway at all to undo changes I just made with upgrades that failed?05:02
sasquatc4but everytime i do the apt upgrade, it adds the 386 back05:03
sasquatc4so im not sure why it keeps thinking its installed05:03
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adwaitsasquatc4: no really very knowledgable abt kernels an such :)05:03
sasquatc4huh?05:03
randabissasquatc4: how did you remove the kernel?05:04
sasquatc4apt05:04
randabissasquatc4: okay..that's weird then05:04
odie5533Is there any easy way to use LVM?05:04
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randabisusually it will stop adding the entry if you remove it with apt05:04
sasquatc4yah, hopefully it'll be fixed if i can resolve this wierd apt issue with tryin to install a kernel thats already there05:05
adwaitodie5533: when installing ubuntu it gives u an option to use LVM05:05
odie5533Anyway to partition my hard disks before installing and use LVM?05:05
adwaitodie5533: while install red hat fc3/fc4 if u choose to let the partiong automatically, it does it using LVM05:05
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adwaitodie5533: put a partitioning tool on a bootable floppy / run a partition utillity from the OS which is installed05:06
stisevHi all05:06
adwaithi stisev: wb05:06
stisevI know this is not #kde or #kubuntu, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.05:06
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odie5533adwait: no os is instaleld05:06
thenostradamusif ur not using the drive to run ubuntu, u can use qtparted05:06
stisevin kubuntu [KDE] , I hate how the windows default to their crappy layout, with all of the navigation panels05:07
stisevhow do I force KDE to show windows how I want them?05:07
stisev(classic look - tree view with no navigation panels, side panels)05:07
adwaitodie5533: well......u can run the run the ubuntu installation upto the partitioning part, write changes and quit..so ur disk is partioned using LVM but ubuntu isnt installed05:07
stisevdo you know how to configure how KDE shows the folders?05:07
odie5533thenostradamus, how do I use qparted for LVM05:07
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stisevAnyone know?05:07
odie5533adwait: I have things on my disks though05:07
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adwaitodie5533: thts a problem then.....ull hv to backup the data05:08
odie5533Its too much05:08
odie5533I no longer have place to back it up05:08
odie5533And worse, I can't figure out how to burn cds from a live session =/05:09
adwaitodie5533: well theres really no way to do this w/o destructive partioning because...u need to delete partions and then use LVM05:09
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thenostradamusodie5533, /j #lvm05:09
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odie5533Hmm... What is the downside of using ext2?05:10
naliothodie5533: no journaling05:10
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odie5533What is journaling?05:10
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naliothodie5533: error correction05:10
odie5533Is that good to have?05:11
nickrudjournaling is logging changes for rollback05:11
adwaitriight05:11
odie5533Hmm05:11
naliothodie5533: for every 100 bytes, it writes 1 byte for error corrction (or something like that)05:11
adwaitidue5533: yeah.....in case of an improper shutdown or power failure, u want lose data05:11
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adwait*odie553305:11
odie5533Is there any way to burn a cd from a live session?05:11
odie5533with one cd burner drive05:11
naliothodie5533: if you have 2 optical drives05:12
adwaitidue5533: u hv two CD drives?05:12
odie5533No05:12
adwaitwell then no :)05:12
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adwaitit needs acces to the writable disk AND the software on the live disk05:12
madmavricis there a way to set up a virtual drive?05:12
odie5533What if I promise not to run any new software?05:13
adwaitodie5533: lol..but u do need to access the disk writing software05:13
naliothodie5533: it is impossible05:13
naliothmadmavric: yes, its called "installation"05:13
madmavriccool05:13
adwaitheh :p05:13
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adwaitno but i had heard of sucha thing for windows........but not for linux05:14
odie5533I am using knoppix atm for partitioning, I thought gparted was malfunctioning, but qtparted doesnt work for what I need either... So now I am going to try knoppix with the tohd=/dev/hda1 to burn cds05:14
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odie5533copies the image to hdd and lets you boot05:14
freddyis there a way to find for a package? like...hrmm if i want to install acrobat reader from apt-get but i dont know the name of the exact package...do i have an option for like find any package with "acrobat" on it?05:14
odie5533Thanks for the help, later05:14
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thenostradamusapt-cache search05:15
naliothodie5533: you still will have the cd drive locked up (unless knoppix has advanced farther then i realize)05:15
nickrudodie5533 from the cd you copied to the hdd?05:15
madmavricnothing showing up in synaptic called installation05:15
odie5533nickrud, it copies it05:15
odie5533nalioth, it copies it itself05:15
naliothmadmavric: what type of virtual disk are you looking for?05:15
adwaitmadmavric: lol..........he was being sarcastic05:16
asimismoWhere can I find my grub config? My 5.04 machine boots fine but I expected my grub config in /boot/grub...05:16
madmavricehhh im just curios, but a dvd virtual drive would be nice05:16
naliothi know how the knoppix tohd=/dev/hda works, but the bootloader is still on the cd rom05:16
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naliothmadmavric: make an iso image, and mount it05:16
madmavricwell if it can be done in windows, it needs to be done in linux05:16
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madmavricok gotcha05:17
naliothmadmavric: i thought you were perhaps referring to odies problem05:17
nickrudmadmavric virtural drives are trivial in linux05:17
adwaitmadmavric: well the software fooled windows into thinking tht another drive is connected to it........linux is smarter ;)05:17
madmavricya i see that now05:17
madmavricwell it is kinda handy05:17
naliothdid y'all miss me while i was workin?05:18
adwaitmadmavric: well actually.......it was meant for those games/softwares tht required their CD in the drive for them to run.....that's redundunt in linux because there are no such softwares05:18
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nickrudof course05:18
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thenostradamusreduntdant05:18
thenostradamusredundant**05:19
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adwaitaah.......i thought there was something wrong with mine..05:19
barneyboog'day05:19
barneyboo  amaroK -  monitoring05:19
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adwaitgday barneyboo05:19
barneybooallo05:19
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freddythe acrobat version is outdated :(05:20
freddyon the repositorys05:20
tiglionabbitfreddy: use xpdf fool05:20
adwaitfreddy: update it with apt-get :)05:20
naliothfreddy: stability over bling05:20
adwaitlol05:20
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DekaPinkOkay... I'm wondering about Ubuntu and my new digital camera... I plan to install Ubuntu again in the near future, but I don't know anything about linux+digital cameras. :305:20
naliothfreddy: on linux, if it works, there's no need to have the 'latest and greatest'05:20
asimismoI'm sure somebody here knows where Ubuntu keeps its grub.conf or menu.list. Anyone?05:20
DekaPinkWill it just... work? :305:20
nickrudDekaPink sometimes ;(05:21
thenostradamusin /etc/menu.lst05:21
naliothDekaPink: i have an iBook running ubuntu, plugged my sisters camera in it, and it fired right up05:21
tiglionabbitasimismo: /boot/grub05:21
naliothasimismo: open a terminal and type "locate grub.conf"05:21
naliothtiglionabbit: i think its in a nonstandard place05:21
DekaPinknalioth: That's pretty nifty. :305:21
thenostradamusthere is no grub.conf05:21
nickrudDekaPink I've used 6 cameras, all but 2 have worked 'out of the box'05:21
thenostradamusjust menu.lst05:21
madmavricanybody attempt to install gyach-e in ubuntu?05:21
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asimismotiglionabbit: Yeah, that's where I looked. Not there.05:22
naliothDekaPink: ubuntu aims to "just work" and some things actually meet that criteria05:22
thenostradamusmy fault05:22
thenostradamusit's in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:22
DekaPinkI've got a Sony Cyber-shot DSC-P9305:22
asimismoI only find samples for menu.lst in /usr/share/doc05:22
asimismoI don't have a /boot/grub dir at all!05:22
adwaitasimismo: its supppsed to be in /boot/grub for sure05:23
naliothasimismo: use the terminal and "locate menu.lst"05:23
thenostradamusr u using another bootloader?05:23
asimismoNo, don't think so.05:23
adwaitasimismo: u sure u hv grub installed?05:23
nickrudDekaPink all I can say, is first, plug in the camera and see if something happens on the desktop.05:23
asimismoDunno--I didn't customize grub on install.05:23
adwaitasimismo: maybe ur using lilo? or NTLDR?05:23
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asimismoNo, grub shows on boot05:23
naliothDekaPink: and if that doesnt happen, open a camera friendly app05:23
adwaitasimismo: hmm05:23
DekaPinknickrud: I'll keep that in mind... I'm on WinXP right now, but I want to get back on Ubuntu ASAP. :) Thanks for your help, guys. :D05:24
naliothadwait: NTLDR are you nutz?!!05:24
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adwaitnaolioth: i hvnt used win xp......but isnt tht its boot loader?05:24
asimismoI did some convoluted partitioning and I'm trying to set up evms. Install went fine but now I can't customize my Grub config!05:24
nickrudDekaPink otherwise, google for gphoto and your camera05:24
naliothadwait: yes, but i've NEVER seen it start linux05:25
naliothasimismo: open a terminal and type "locate menu.lst"05:25
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adwaitnalioth: well.....i think i remember walking a friend thru editing the boot.ini file so tht it gives an option of starting grub05:25
freddywhat was the program to add a menu entry on gnome?05:25
freddygsem, sem?05:25
freddysomething like that05:25
asimismonalioth: Did that above--only found samples in /usr/doc05:25
naliothadwait: i stay away from anything windows05:25
nickrudadwait smeg05:25
adwaitlol05:26
asimismoUh, /usr/share/doc, that is05:26
freddythat one!05:26
adwaitnickrud: smeg?05:26
freddysmeg05:26
adwaitooh.....ok tht was for him05:26
nickrudyeah, the guy does have a sense of humor05:26
thenostradamusasimismo, cp /usr/share/doc/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst05:26
naliothasimismo: well, this is indeed a mystery05:26
freddyoh not in apt-get :(05:26
asimismothenostradamus: Yeah, thought about doing that. Wasn't sure what would happen...05:26
freddyhow do i go about installing a .deb package?05:27
DekaPinkFolks in here are always so helpful... Thanks all. :D05:27
asimismonalioth: Glad I'm not the only one who things so!05:27
thenostradamusshould work05:27
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naliothfreddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo05:27
freddyok, i have another question..how do i go on installing a .deb package?05:29
adwaitasismo: not sure......but looking at some sites where it says amybe u hvnt mounted ur /boot partition (i didnt know tht was possible)05:29
freddythanks nalioth05:29
naliothfreddy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb05:29
asimismoadwait: I can see contents in /boot, but there's no grub dir05:29
adwaitk05:30
naliothasimismo: did you cp you a copy?05:30
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asimismonalioth: Yeah, I copied the sample, but it's got a bunch of crap in it. I know what I want in the file, I just wasn't sure where the file was that I wanted to change. I haven't seen that grub can have a default elsewhere...05:30
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nickrudasimismo if grub was installed with dpkg, there must be a /boot/grub directory05:31
asimismonickrud: It's not that I don't believe you...05:32
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nickrudhuh, I probably didn't read back far enough to see the real problem,05:32
asimismoI know it should be there--I'm stymied!05:32
jtan325if i downloaded an icon set, and it has an "index.theme" file, i should be able to install it using gnome-theme-manager?05:32
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adwaitjtan325: i dont remember correctly.........but theme manager wants a gz file i think05:33
jtan325oh....05:33
nickrudasimismo try apt-get install --reinstall grub05:33
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nickrudasimismo or, that's the first thing i'd do if i had no grub directory05:33
odie5533nalioth: I am on Knoppix live cd, without the cd ;)05:34
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adwaitodie5533: how come?05:34
jtan325adwait, thanks, that was it05:34
NeoGeo64how come when i try and play games like tuxracer and zsnes it cant open sound, but i can listen to mp3s and stuff05:34
adwaitjtan325: np05:34
odie5533adwait: It automatically copies itself to a hard disk on command05:34
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odie5533very nice feature *cough* add too ubuntu *cough*05:35
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adwaitodie5533: isnt tht called "installing it to disk"05:35
adwait?05:35
odie5533nope05:35
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asimismonickrud: There's also a grub-install script...05:35
odie5533since it doesnt touch the master boot record, or take over a partition/hard disk05:35
adwaitNeoGeo64: maybe u hv configured those games to use the wrong output plugin05:35
odie5533it just copies it to any open space05:35
adwaithmm......k05:36
adwaitcool05:36
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misfit_toyhow do I see what services are running....or stopped,  or restart them? isn't there a eimple gui for that?05:37
nickrudasimismo actually, I use lilo as my loader.  reinstalling any package should restore any missing files/directories.05:37
thenostradamusps05:37
dualBhelphey all i just installed ubuntu to my intire hd then used pt magic to make the partion a bit smaller then installed  and ntfs partion with xp on it to the free space05:37
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dualBhelphow do i get ride off ntloader and reinstall grub?05:37
adwaitdualBhelp: i believe win xp likes to be on the first sector05:37
thenostradamusuninstall windows05:37
thenostradamus:-D05:38
adwait:D05:38
misfit_toyhow do I see what services are running....or stopped,  or restart them? isn't there a eimple gui for that?05:38
thenostradamusmisfit05:38
thenostradamusopen a terminal05:38
adwaitmisfit_toy: ps to see all running processes05:38
thenostradamusand type "ps"05:38
adwaitths not a gui though05:38
misfit_toythenostradamus, I know how to use ps05:38
misfit_toythenostradamus, I'm asking if there's a gui05:38
thenostradamusi don't know of any gui05:38
freddyjesus acrobat reader is FAST in linux05:38
thenostradamustry ps -auxt05:39
thenostradamusthat makes it more readable05:39
NeoGeo64what is the proper output plugin to use05:39
NeoGeo64so  can get sound in games05:39
nickrudrcconf of the top of my head, there are some others (mostly ncurses)05:39
NeoGeo64i*05:39
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misfit_toyFC had 'system-config-services' very nice05:39
adwaitNeoGeo64: umm esd or alsa i guess05:39
dualBhelpadwait: na u can get a 98 boot disk and go fdisk /mbr and then install grub again i think05:39
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dualBhelpjust don't know ho05:39
adwaitmisfit_toy: yeah i was just thinking of tht05:39
dualBhelpw05:39
misfit_toyadwait, it was great05:39
naliothdualBhelp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:39
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misfit_toyadwait, you could look at all your services, then restart, stop , etc....05:40
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adwaitmisfit_toy: but i found FC to buggy...hence switched to ubuntu05:40
dualBhelpnalioth: awsome :D05:40
dualBhelpthanks05:40
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adwaitmisfit_toy: right.......well u can edit the startup services in rcconf in ubuntu05:40
misfit_toyadwait, I love ubuntu, but I am still figuring out the poss...05:40
tatianafreddy, hey you're still here05:40
adwaitto start stop /etc/init.d/<servicename> <start/stop/whtever>05:40
misfit_toyadwait, I know that, I"m asking if there is an ubuntu gui for it05:41
tatianaanyone know a way to edit the gnome menu to add an item or make a launcher & have it assume root privs as it runs your program05:41
misfit_toyguess not05:41
adwaitmisfit_toy: hmm apparently not05:41
adwait:)05:41
freddytatiana, yes ! i just did it with a nice appl!05:41
tatianalol05:41
freddyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818305:41
tatianafreddy, i got the modem worky05:41
tatiana:)05:41
freddyget the autopackage05:42
freddyworks aweseom05:42
freddytatiana, thank god, i was worried cause i couldnt help you05:42
tatianai'm on my own modem i scrounged for this laptop to test05:42
thenostradamusdoes anyone use shorewall?05:42
tatianawell wanna know how to do it05:42
misfit_toyadwait, for instance, I just installed spamassassin, but I want to make sure the daemon is runnning05:42
tatianaits so simple its stupid05:42
nickrudthenostradamus I've used it before, yes05:42
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freddy<----killerwall user05:42
IceDC571killerwall?05:42
nickrudI'm lazily using firestarter at the moment05:42
thenostradamusdid u have it configured with ur machine being a gateway to ur local network nickrud?05:43
adwaitmisfit_toy: hmm...i guess theres no gui for tht...but u can /etc/init.d/spamassasin status (i thinkk)05:43
freddyIceDC571, its what we use at our company http://www.killerwall.net/05:43
misfit_toyadwait, yeah, ok, you pretty much answered my question05:43
misfit_toyno gui05:43
misfit_toydamn05:43
misfit_toythat's lame05:43
tatianafreddy, do:  wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf (makes a new conf file)05:43
adwaitactually i like the power and fleibility of commandline05:43
IceDC571lol omg why are so many people using windows in here?05:43
nickrudthenostradamus I had a few machines to play with a while ago, and, yes I did then. But It was a while ago.05:43
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freddytatiana, ohhh05:44
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tatianathen after its done making it, edit /etc/wvdial.conf and put in your ISP #, login/pword after removing the semicolons from in front of those lines05:44
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thenostradamusoh, do u by any chance remember how to forward ur ip.........i had it working a while ago05:44
nickrudthenostradamus but my recollection was that the shorewall site had a woring config for just that\05:44
thenostradamusyeah05:44
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thenostradamusi can't figure out what i changed though:-/05:45
freddytatiana, thats the kinda things you should write on a tutorial and throw it over ubuntuforums05:45
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nickrudthenostradamus, you need some revision control :)05:45
NeoGeo64how do i change my sound output05:45
IceDC571happy 4th everyone!!05:46
thenostradamushahahhaha05:46
thenostradamusmost definitely05:46
tatianaya05:46
NeoGeo64everytime i start zsnes it says Sound Init Failed05:46
tatianamaybe i will.05:46
adwaitNeoGeo64: for which software?05:46
freddydang...i like this, i would use it just because of the look of the site lol http://www.killerwall.net/05:46
tatianaheh b/c the forums are useless  on that one.05:46
thenostradamusthere's no ubuntu package though, freddy05:46
NeoGeo64I am able to listen to music, but I can't listen to flash animations, sound in games like tuxracer or zsnes05:47
freddyno, its just a script..and the explanation its quite understable thenostradamus05:47
FoamY_is_AwaYwhars tuxracer?05:47
adwaitNeoGeo64: flash animations is a differnet issue althogheter05:47
freddyactually i know the developer, and he uses ubuntu05:47
freddyFoamY_is_AwaY, game05:47
FoamY_is_AwaYcan i get it and how?05:47
tatianafreddy, how big is that Smeg thing05:47
NeoGeo64why cant i get sound?05:47
freddytatiana, really really small05:47
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freddytatiana, download the autopackage05:47
tatianahow small05:48
tatianaless than a meg?05:48
freddyrun it from console..and it will get all the packages for you05:48
freddyyup05:48
tatianaand the packages are how big05:48
freddythe autopackage is 1.5kb05:48
freddyhehe05:48
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NeoGeo64can anyone help me05:48
nickrudthe best part of using shorewall is that it's in main. Security support trumps most things.05:48
adwaitNeoGeo64: for flash try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41051&highlight=flash+sound+firefox05:49
freddyi dont know tati, but not more than 600kb05:49
tatianaya but how big are the packages it d/ls after05:49
tatianaok05:49
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tatianacuz dialup = the suckage05:49
freddygotcha05:49
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tatianahm05:50
tatianai have to rightclick & save as??05:50
freddynow THIS looks interesting http://www.racer.nl/05:50
freddytatiana, yap05:50
tatianathen what05:51
adwaithey somebody tell me.......hows is this possible: http://www.theunion.net/?page=dbb05:51
IceDC571dsl is cheaper than dial up now i dont see why you would still be using it05:51
tatianabc in some places its not05:51
tatianaand some ppl are poor.05:51
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dailehey, I have USB laser printer Lexmark E210, and it's connected directly to my Ubuntu desktop. Everything works fine, except printing is much slower than when I use Windows XP. If anyone knows about that, please help me to speed thing up!05:52
freddytatiana,05:52
freddyright click it05:52
freddyproperties...give it perms to execute05:52
freddyand then double click it05:52
adwaittatiana: whr r u05:52
tatianaok05:52
freddywhen it asks how to open....tell it to open on a terminal05:52
tatianai'm in canda but my friend who needs this stuff is in texas.05:52
tatianafreddy, k ty05:53
adwaittatiana: hmm....05:53
tatianashrugs she says dsl an cable there is $40/month05:53
nickruddaile you should go to linuxprinting.org, and search for your printer. It's not perfect, but it often has up to date info about printers, and the proper drivers to use.05:54
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dailethanks nickrud05:54
IceDC571ouch.. dsl is $15/month here05:54
adwaittatiana: $40!!!!05:54
kdp........where is "here"05:54
kdpi must move there.05:54
freddythis is what i hate of linux in some ways....on this game for linux site, it says this    Instead of just downloading prepared files, also try creating your own cars or tracks with editors like 3D Studio Max (tm) from Discreet.05:54
freddy=/05:55
IceDC571sf, california05:55
adwaittatiana: i am in india.....and my connection 256 kbps costs abt $10 a month05:55
freddythere is no such thing like 3d Studio Max for linux =/05:55
NeoGeo64ok i have sound in firefox but i still cant get sound in games!05:55
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dailenickrud: I've searched in that website already, and nothing special about my printer. I think have the proper driver though. It's just not that fast. The weird thing when I share my printer using Ubuntu, and then try to print from a Windows Laptop, it prints really fast!05:55
daileDont' know why05:56
tatianaapparently the only dsl isp there is verizon05:56
IceDC571hmm... lexmark has some issues with linux is what i heard05:56
tatianaits a monopoly05:56
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adwaitaah05:56
daileIceDC571: yeah I think so too05:56
kdpwell im in texas and we have alltell.05:56
kdpwell, i dont, but its available.05:56
tatianashes in san angelo05:56
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IceDC571hopefully sbc will buy verizon in that area.. that way she'll get good prices for dsl.. fast too05:57
ionsanyone know how I can remotely see a client's desktop?05:57
kdpmhm that maybe b/c san angelo is kinda small.05:57
thenostradamusions, vnc05:57
tatianafreddy, i'm installing this thing now to see how well it will go on dialup ... heh ty.05:57
IceDC571ions: freenx too05:57
ionsone of the people I support deleted the taskbar in Gnome and is clueless to get it back05:57
adwaitions: system>preferences>remote desktop05:57
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daileIceDC571: Lexmark E210 driver is just weird, because they use a special kind of old Samsung GDI driver. When I tried using Fedora, printing is also very slow!05:58
tatianaIceDC571, ya wel that'd be nice05:58
adwaitafter tht on ur pc: applications>internmet>remote desktop05:58
nickruddaile I have an hp printer that prints incredibly slow under hpoj, and works very nicely under hplip, so, I'm not suprised.05:58
freddytatiana, is it downloading the packages?05:58
tatianayes its smallish i guess by US standards05:58
tatianayes freddy05:58
tatianai have 5 hours free so ...05:58
freddyhotness05:58
IceDC571i would kill myself if i downloaded packages with dialup there05:58
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kdpmaybe not US standards, but certainly texas standards :-)05:58
ionsI don't have applications > internet > remote desktop05:59
dailenickrud: yeah, it's quite sad though, because whenever I want to print (>100 pages), I have to use a Windows computer and try to print from there using Samba05:59
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freddycant you use directv or something?05:59
adwaitions: yeah i realised tht05:59
tatianausing up a few of em to test this out05:59
adwaitions: use the command vncviewer <friends ip>05:59
tatianawell kdp i wouldn't know that05:59
tatianahehe05:59
IceDC571texas has good cell phone reception, you could get broadband speeds by hooking up your cell to the computer internet05:59
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IceDC571but it costs like.. $70/month lol05:59
tatianalol05:59
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tatianashes poor dude05:59
kdphahahahhahaha.05:59
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=== adwait things america is an expensive place to live in!
adwait*thinks06:00
tatianak now how do i run this smeg thingy06:00
IceDC571adwait: depends where you live06:00
tatianait installed06:00
kdpsmeg...what a bad name.  its so...weird.06:00
tatianaya nokidding'06:00
tatianaconsidering what it means *yech*06:00
adwaitIceDC571: well i am in india.........and everything they said costs like 1/4th here06:00
freddyhere is $50/month =/06:01
IceDC571adwait: is everything illegal there? lol06:01
IceDC571imported and such06:01
adwaitIceDC571: huh?06:01
ionsdo I have to open a port for vncviewer to connect?06:01
adwaitIceDC571: how can internet access be imported06:01
adwait?06:01
thenostradamusions, 590006:01
dailekdp: smeg = Simple Menu Editor for Gnome06:01
freddyLOOL06:01
daile:)06:01
IceDC571no i mean dvds and electronics06:01
adwaitions: system>preferences>remote desktop on ur clients pc opens the port06:01
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kdpdaile: yeah, but its still weird.06:01
ionshe deleted that menu06:01
adwaitafter tht u connect using vncviewer <ip>:006:02
tatianafreddy, how do u run this ;P06:02
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kdpadwait: it may be cheaper, but arent wages lower as well?  thats the whole outsourcing thing.06:02
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adwaitIceDC571: no everything is made here...just tht cost of labour/production is much lower here.........remember a thing called outsourcing to bangalore?06:02
dailekdp: yeah I hate that name too, it's just a bad name for such a good tool06:02
adwaitkdp: yeah i guess.......06:02
freddytatiana, Applications/SystemTools/06:02
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freddySmeg Menu Editor06:03
tatianaoh duh06:03
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tatianai missed it06:03
tatianak ty :)06:03
freddy;)06:03
tatiananow to figure out how to edit a menu item to run as root06:03
adwaitions: deleted wht menu? the system menu06:03
adwait?06:03
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freddyi dont know how ppl have problems with ipods?06:04
freddyi just plugged mine..and it worked06:04
freddylol06:04
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tatianak freddy ?06:05
freddyk what tati?06:05
freddy:)06:05
tatianaso far this just edits things like i was doing before, i don't see how to get an entry to run as root06:05
tatianawvdial needs to be run as root after all06:05
IceDC571adwait: can i bring my snowboard to india?06:05
kdpooooooooooo snow.06:05
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tatianasnow?06:06
dailekdp: what's up LOL?06:06
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kdpwell i assume if Ice is gonna bring his snowboard theres snow.06:06
tatianafreddy wake up!06:07
tatiana:)06:07
adwaitIceDC571: well not where i live.....but yeah.in some plaes06:07
adwait*places06:07
adwait:D06:07
SirGrokIs anyone having a problem with the Ubuntu apt-get repositories going screechingly slow?06:07
ksmurfhello all06:07
dailehow do we call someone who uses Ubuntu?06:07
daileUbuntist?06:07
SirGrokI am dlownloading at 3000 b/s06:07
kdpUbuntunite06:07
dailehaha06:07
ksmurfSir 500-800 kBs if that's slow06:07
adwaitSIRGrok: try using mirrors06:07
thenostradamusubuntuer06:07
IceDC571ubuntunian?06:07
thenostradamuslmao06:07
crimsundaile: a Ubuntu user06:07
daileUbuntunian sounds cool06:08
IceDC571yeah, shes an ubunter lol06:08
SirGrokadwait, I am afriad that I don't know of what you speak.06:08
dailecrimsun: Ubuntu user doesn't sound cool06:08
adwaitdaile: u call him a "cool dude" :d06:08
adwait:d06:08
tatianaanyone know how to make a launcher or menu entry work as root or run the program it refers to as Root06:08
daile"cool dude" + Ubuntu --> Ubuncool06:08
ksmurfIs there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup?06:08
adwait!repostries06:09
ubotuadwait: I don't know, could you explain it?06:09
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ksmurftat in the command use sudo .....06:09
SQFreakfreddy: USB or IEEE1394 iPod?06:09
adwait!repostories06:09
ubotuadwait: Bugger all, i dunno06:09
tatianaya but then it will pop up a password box?06:09
FoamY_is_wiccananyone here broadcast with shoutcast?06:10
freddySQFreak, USB ipod06:10
kdptatiana: yeah, i dont think you can avoid that.06:10
tatianak06:10
SirGrokadwait,  how do I use alternative mirros?06:10
adwaitSirGrok: Open up synaptic06:11
SirGrokDone06:11
tatianaooooo no it didn't this time but ty :)06:11
freddytatiana, here, whats up06:11
ksmurfthe only way u could avoid it is run as root... which should not be an option06:11
ksmurfIs there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup?06:11
tatianak i'm going06:11
kdptatiana: it saves it for a while.06:11
adwaitsettings>repostories06:11
tatianaits ok kdp answered me freddy06:11
kdpso you dont put the pword in every time.06:11
freddytatiana, :(06:11
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freddynow you love him and not me06:11
freddyFINE06:11
ksmurfother that in the sessions box06:11
SirGrokgot it.06:11
tatianaLOL06:11
kdphahahahaha.06:11
IceDC571Welcome to Fedora. Home of dependency hell.06:12
SQFreakfreddy: i'd imagine that's a little easier than a 1394 one (which is what I have...but only sync in Windows so I don't know how it goes in Ubuntu. Ubuntu detects an OHCI IEEE1394 controller, so I can't imagine it'd be that hard)06:12
tatianakisses kdp :P06:12
adwaitSirGrok: now edit on of the reposotories and instead of archive.ubuntu.com make it us.archive.ubuntu.com or something like tht.....google for mirrors....06:12
tatianahehe06:12
kdpIce: oh my yes.06:12
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tatianabbl off the dialup heh06:12
tatianaty all06:12
kdpBYE!  call me.06:12
kdpoh too late.06:12
kdphahaha06:12
IceDC571kdp: whats your number?06:12
IceDC571ohh06:12
freddydamn it06:12
ksmurfIs there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup? Anyone?06:13
freddyno kiss for freddy06:13
freddy:(06:13
SQFreakIceDC571: Nay, I vote for Mandrake (now Mandriva) for dependency hell. I have to say, though, apt-get's error messages are often useless ("blah package is required but is not going to be installed").06:13
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kdpive always wondered why i need a mail server for evolution tow rok.06:13
dailetatiana: are you a girl?06:13
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freddySQFreak, damn im sorry man06:13
IceDC571what would you vote for too user friendly?06:13
IceDC571i say Linspire06:13
SQFreakfreddy: sorry about what?06:13
kdpi think tatiana is gone.  but i sure hope so.06:13
freddythe ipod problem06:13
adwaitlol06:14
freddyhttp://www.deviantart.com/view/20220805/  i just LOVE my desktop06:14
IceDC571omg fireworks!!06:14
IceDC571brb06:14
daileyeah, that's quite scary though, I though guys want to kiss guys06:14
SQFreakfreddy: there's no problem. I can't test it now because I lost my 6-pin to 4-pin 1394 adapter, otherwise i'd test it.06:14
freddyi did the fix that its in ubuntu forums for the fonts...and they look awesome....06:14
speelhttp://www.speel3k.net/art/Screenshot.png i love mine better ;)06:14
freddylook at the screenshot :D06:14
kdpfireworks scare my dog.06:14
SQFreakSpeaking of which, anyone know if Best Buy sells 6-pin to 4-pin 1394 adapters?06:14
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freddySQFreak, ah ok06:15
SQFreakOr anywhere for that matter.06:15
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freddyit worked just fine here06:15
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SQFreakadwait: which is probably why Best Buy wouldn't sell it.06:15
IceDC571SQFreak: turn on the fun! Breast Buy!06:15
freddyspeel, do you know of the fix for the fonts?06:15
adwait:D06:15
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speelnah , What fix?06:15
dennis_Hello Everyone06:16
dennis_I have a quick question :D06:16
IceDC571Hello Dennis06:16
ksmurfIs there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup? Anyone?06:16
IceDC571i've come here to steal your cat.06:16
dennis_Mostly everyone here uses gnome right?06:16
ksmurfhey Dennis06:16
dr_willisksmurf,  to do what exatly?06:16
adwaitdennis: yeah..06:16
thenostradamusSQFreak: try Fry's06:16
dennis_you all know of the weather widget right?06:16
adwaityeah.06:16
adwait..06:16
SQFreakthenostradamus: the nearest Fry's is Atlanta. :)06:16
thenostradamusdamn06:16
thenostradamussorry06:16
IceDC571SQFreak: ahh, east coast eh?06:16
SQFreakIceDC571: North Carolina.06:17
SQFreakAnd the nearest CompUSA is a 45 minute drive away.06:17
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dennis_What happens if my area isn't listen on it? Like i put the closed city and it says 66 degrees but when I go on weather .com is says my current town is like 5906:17
dennis_Is there any way of adding zip codes or anything?06:17
SQFreakBut the store that runs compoutlet.com is a five-minute drive away, so I'm hoping they have it and it's just not on the Website.06:17
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adwaitdennis_: 1)move 2)wait for ur area to be added06:17
dennis_lol06:17
kdpdennis_: if you use firefox, you can use forecast fox...but youll have to load a browser each time06:17
dennis_Hmm06:17
FoamY_is_wiccanwhats the comand to install vmware?06:18
dennis_Okay06:18
kdpand forecast fox has a zip code enterer thingy.06:18
crimsunSQFreak: not close to an intrex or stayonline?06:18
dennis_Is there any other gnome weather things?06:18
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SirGrokadwait, I have found this, but I don't know how to add it to the apt server http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php06:18
dennis_Where I can add a zipcode06:18
thenostradamusFoamy: perl vmware-config.pl06:18
thenostradamusi think06:18
freddyspeel, the fix on ubuntuforums06:18
FoamY_is_wiccanthanx06:18
freddyto make them look crisp06:18
freddygonna get the link06:18
IceDC571to make them look like M$ fonts lol06:19
Mikswhat can i do when i get an advise like "old style mounting not supported" ?06:19
dr_willisksmurf,  to start firefox. you can save the gnome session. for the mouse issue.. you may want to edt the system wide xsession or the gnome.desktop06:19
speelfreddy, do you know what catagory?06:19
SQFreakcrimsun: Intrex is the same distance as Best Buy. I can try there. StayOnline is in Raleigh; I'm in Winston-Salem (2hr drive).06:19
kdpactually when i zoomed in on windows fonts they looked pretty bad.06:19
IceDC571http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097606:19
adwaitSirGrok: like i said synaptic, Settings>respostories and then select add06:19
crimsunSQFreak: drive east to Greensboro and go to Ahead Computers on Battleground Avenue.06:19
adwaitthen edit it and change the url06:19
freddyspeel, tips and tricks06:19
IceDC571speel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097606:20
speelah ty06:20
crimsunSQFreak: actually there's an Intrex in Greensboro, too06:20
FoamY_is_wiccanthanx06:20
SQFreakcrimsun: Know anything in Charlotte? I'm moving down to Mecklenburg County for my job next week.06:20
dr_willisksmurf,  the /etc/X11/xsession perhaps.. i forget. ;p06:21
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crimsunSQFreak: charlotte has quite a few of the sort, though I'm not as familiar as I am with G'boro, since I was born in G'boro.06:21
dennis_Guys06:21
adwaitSirGrok: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:21
speelah way to much work06:21
arentiehey everyone, I just got Vpnc working!  Yahoo!!!06:21
dennis_How do I update firefox...when synaptic doesn't say it needs to be updated06:21
dennis_but mozilla.org does06:21
freddyspeel, LOL06:21
adwaitdennis_06:21
freddyhey someone show me screenshots of yours06:22
SQFreakcrimsun: Ah. Where are you living now?06:22
adwaitdennis_: type about config in mozilla address bar06:22
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mig`'evening06:22
crimsunSQFreak: Rochester, MN.06:22
dr_willisdennis_, thats a version issue.06:22
dennis_???06:22
adwaitdennis_: search for a key called general.useragnet.vendorsub and change its value to 1.0.406:22
arentiedennis_, do a about:config in the addres bar of firefox and follow what needs to be done searching ubuntu's support and/or wiki06:22
mig`oh, btw crimsun i got it working, i had to install ubuntu in vmware in order to get mkinitrd to work from there06:22
adwaitdennis_: sime06:22
dennis_k06:22
crimsunmig`: excellent06:22
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mig`crimsun, the livecd uses the 386 kernel, ubuntu installs the 686 kernel06:22
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freddycrimsun, heya man! thanks for all the help!06:22
crimsunfreddy: np06:22
mig`which is why mkinitrd couldn't find the right kernel folder when making the initrd file06:23
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mig`thinking of writing a wiki article on it, haven't figured out how to go around the wiki yet, but thats for later06:23
crimsunmig`: it has installed the -386 in my experience06:23
mig`crimsun, i meant in my particular case06:23
SQFreakcrimsun: Okay, so definitively not in the area.06:23
FoamY_is_wiccanu3m00n306:23
arentiewill vmware allow one to install Windows XP?06:23
thenostradamusarentie, yes06:24
mig`right now i'm trying to figure out how to install a .deb (or .rpm) package06:24
mig`any ideas?06:24
arentieis vmware free for ubuntu?06:24
ksmurfarentie Yes06:24
ksmurfarentie No06:24
crimsunmig`: dpkg -i foo.deb06:24
thenostradamuslmao @ ksmurf06:24
adwaitmig: for *.deb: sudo dpkh -i <filename>06:24
mig`also, how can i execute a file from nautils as sudo06:24
freddyWHAT_!_!_!??06:24
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freddyis vmware free for ubuntu? holy shiat06:24
freddygonna call a couple of friends06:24
SQFreakmig`: for an rpm, sudo alien filename.rpm06:24
freddybrb06:24
adwaitmig: for rpm.....first sudo alien <filename> and thn whn deb is created use dpkg06:24
arentiejust asking...i heard some good things about vmware06:25
adwait*mig: dpkg not dpkh06:25
SQFreakfreddy: no, arentie was answering yes to installing XP on VMWare, no to freeness.06:25
arentiecan one install Mac OSX running vmware?06:25
thenostradamusarentie, yes06:25
thenostradamusarentie, no06:25
thenostradamushahah06:25
mig`says dpkg command not found06:25
ksmurfarentie 188 dollars a lic06:26
mig`(i did 'sudo')06:26
FoamY_is_wiccanvm ware is kinda cool06:26
adwaitmig`: ?06:26
arentieouch06:26
thenostradamuscheck vmware.com arentie06:26
kdpoh look thenostradamus you went and did it again.06:26
SQFreakhow can dpkg be not found?!?06:26
FoamY_is_wiccanit laggs so hardcore though06:26
freddyoh shiat...now my friends will kick my ass06:26
adwaitmig`: u sure u spelt it right? dpkg?06:26
mig`my mistake06:26
mig`dkpg*06:26
mig`ok, its installing now06:26
mig`hmm06:26
arentiewell, i'm sure that Windows runs better in Linux via VMWare06:26
thenostradamusFoamy, u prolly need more memory06:27
thenostradamuswhat guest os r u running?06:27
ksmurfis there a compatible script to a bat file in ubuntu?06:27
freddyarentie, for that you just need maconlinux.org06:27
dailefreddy: have a look at my screenshot http://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/~ledt/test/Screenshot.png :P06:27
adwaitksmurf: ?06:27
FoamY_is_wiccanyea i need more06:27
crimsunksmurf: any executable script file.06:27
kdpksmurk: im guessing something like .sh?06:27
FoamY_is_wiccanbut it's really hard when your disabled06:27
adwaitnaah.....any text file will do06:27
arentiefreddy, does maconlinux.org require a Mac or a PC?06:27
FoamY_is_wiccanit makes buying programs harder06:27
adwaitjust chmod +x it06:28
mig`so to run an application from inside nautils (as root)06:28
FoamY_is_wiccan>.<06:28
kdpreally.06:28
thenostradamustru tru06:28
FoamY_is_wiccani wish i was normal so i could afford to pay for things like you guys06:28
SQFreakdaile: what IRC client is that?06:28
adwaitmig`: no idea.........dunno if u can do tht06:28
freddyarentie, requires a ppc06:28
daileSQFreak: it's Gaim LOL06:28
freddydaile, NICE!06:28
dailethnx06:28
daile:P06:28
mig`hmm, i see06:28
arentiefreddy, not in about a year though! :)06:28
adwaitksmurf: umm...was just asking abt ur question....06:28
mig`i was thinking of something like windows's "Run As..."06:28
freddyarentie, exactly ;)06:29
FoamY_is_wiccani wish i had money and was wealthy or even middle class06:29
freddyor if you get a mac mini..it will be in a couple of months ;)06:29
FoamY_is_wiccanthen i could pay for all the great software they come out with06:29
daileSQFreak: I dont think Gaim is perfect for IRC though06:29
FoamY_is_wiccancause i really do feel bad about making warez06:29
SQFreakdaile: I use X-Chat.06:30
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adwaitksmurf: like i said.....make any file and write each commanbd on a new line,,,,,,,,and then chmod +x <filename>06:30
adwaitafter tht u can execute the script using ./<filename>06:30
daileSQFreak: yeah it's much better with all more powerful color highlight06:30
IRCMonkeyI have money and I still only pay for software that is extraordinary...you feel bad Foamy? for what, cheating Bill and Melinda out of being able to save one more child? hahahahahaha06:30
SQFreakI actually use a painful mix between KDE and Gnome apps.06:31
FoamY_is_wiccanno i feel good cheating bill out his apps06:31
FoamY_is_wiccanand mandala as well06:31
nickrudmig`, you can write scripts that can be run from inside nautilus, and they can be wrapped with sudo.06:31
speelpeople still pay for software?06:31
FoamY_is_wiccanbut when it comes to linux06:31
mig`i see06:31
FoamY_is_wiccani feel bad making warez06:31
daileSQFreak: how come it's painful?06:31
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FoamY_is_wiccanbecause linux is actually.....honist06:31
thenostradamusdon't feel bad06:31
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FoamY_is_wiccanwell i do cause linux developers are reall genusus06:32
IceDC571linux.. honest?06:32
FoamY_is_wiccanand they deserve the mony they are due06:32
nickrudmig` for example, I have a vim root right click on a text file in nautilus06:32
FoamY_is_wiccanunlike m$06:32
IceDC571i cant believe i actually bought there OS06:32
FoamY_is_wiccani actually feel bad about ripping of linux apps that you have to apy for06:32
IceDC571then i decided to switch to linux right after06:32
SQFreakdaile: because nothing is QUITE perfect. X-Chat looks a little odd, and KDE doesn't want to see Gaim as a real IM client (it's quite insistent on Kopete). And, while I prefer the something-ness of the KDE interface, there's something missing.06:33
FoamY_is_wiccanm$ stuff i coulden't care less06:33
kdptoo bad it comes with every new computer.06:33
arentiehey does anyone know how to solve hibernation issues after I successfully configured ndiswrapper?06:33
SQFreakdaile: and kynaptic really sux0rz.06:33
arentiemore specifically, my wlan006:33
IRCMonkeyit might help if MS could produce a stable and non-privacy invading/memory efficient OS...as it is I feel good everytime I use the software and know I didn't help to make more of the crap.06:33
IceDC571its not bad that it comes with every new computer06:33
FoamY_is_wiccani beleve that every linux programmer should get paid for there work cause there doing it for the people06:33
mig`hmmm ok06:33
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IceDC571i like being different from everyone else06:33
FoamY_is_wiccannot like m$ who does it for them selves06:34
mig`hmm, i have a file that keeps disappearing whenever i right click on it06:34
mig`i guess nautilus still has its bugs06:34
speelLol you guys are funny :P06:34
daileSQFreak: yeah I had that problem too, man. But I tried to stick with Gnome, although i use Kile a lot for all my Tex typesetting stuffs06:34
kdpyou never know.  some linux developer might REALLY have wanted to see his dvds in colored ascii.06:34
IRCMonkeyi said i'd pay for extraordinary software...I stand by that statment06:34
kdpand thus did it for himself.06:34
FoamY_is_wiccanyes i would pay too06:34
adwaitwell.......im off for now ppl.....06:35
FoamY_is_wiccanbut like i said linux is diffrent06:35
nickrudwell, if I ever become wealthy, I'd put a bit into bounties :)06:35
adwaitbbye06:35
SQFreakdaile: KDE just seems a little smoother to me for some reason...06:35
FoamY_is_wiccanif i ever won the lottery i would donate it to ubuntu06:35
daileSQFreak: I absolutely agree06:35
FoamY_is_wiccanand i swear to that06:35
IRCMonkeyi'm thinking about buying/donating to ubuntu...because its thge first linux that i've had work without hours of time fixing it.06:35
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concept10anyone familiar with dyndns?06:35
daileSQFreak: it looks much better hehe!06:35
FoamY_is_wiccanubuntu is the future i think06:35
SQFreakSo, IceDC571's statement about being different from everyone else reminds me of a favor that I'm in the process of doing for a friend and co-worker and need a bit of help on. It's Ubuntu-related. Give me a sec to type it out.06:35
speelFoamY_is_wiccan, i think ubuntu has enough money thanks to the owner06:35
thenostradamusconcept: yes06:35
FoamY_is_wiccanyea true06:35
arentieI agree with IRCMonkey...ubuntu is a solid OS06:35
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FoamY_is_wiccanbut anymore can't help06:35
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FoamY_is_wiccanmost of the money would be for bountys for stuff i'd like to see fixed06:36
speelFoamY_is_wiccan, you'll just end up sending him to space again LOl06:36
FoamY_is_wiccanand things that i'd want to see done06:36
freddyill spend it all in prostitutes06:36
FoamY_is_wiccanno06:36
daileSQFreak, I'm using Xchat now, hehe... I just love apt-get so much!06:36
arentieDoes anyone here have problems with hibernating ?06:36
IRCMonkeyyeah i'd support that...like the documentation lol06:36
thenostradamuslmao @ freddy06:36
IceDC571i would donate my money to the gnome foundation06:36
FoamY_is_wiccancause it would go to the actuall developers06:36
FoamY_is_wiccanand not some rich sob06:36
freddyhahahaha it is true!06:36
freddyplain and simple06:37
freddy:)06:37
speeli would donate my money to my pocket =D06:37
kdphahahahahaha.06:37
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kdpi second speel.06:37
FoamY_is_wiccani would give the money to people who actually do the work06:37
speelgood :)06:37
freddyyes06:37
thenostradamusi would buy a starbucks06:37
freddyand those are prostitutes06:37
freddy:)06:37
kdpHAHAHAHAH06:37
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kdpthenostradamus: across the street from another starbucks?06:37
FoamY_is_wiccanthere are alot of great minds out there that make this software possible06:37
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FoamY_is_wiccanand they need the due credit06:37
FoamY_is_wiccaneven if we take it for granted06:38
SQFreakI installed Ubuntu on an ancient Compaq DeskPro which was incredibly successful except the X-server seems a little weird. The screen is mis-colored and whenever the pointer is dragged around, it creates a large block of further discoloration and pixelation on the screen. Switching to TTY1 shows lines all mixed up into each other - almost as if the line length changed! I'm not quite sure where to start troubleshooting.06:38
IceDC571omg why would you buy a starbucks? they're like everywhere06:38
freddyi would buy a prostitute for each developer...ill get credit06:38
arentiebuy prostitutes to go to One Microsoft Way, Seattle WA and ask for Mr. Steve Ballmer06:38
daileOh, does anyone have problem with Enterprise Volume Manager. Sometimes, when I reboot, it's just stuck there for no reason06:38
SQFreakdaile: and?06:38
thenostradamusy do u think they're everywhere?06:38
jazzmansup all06:38
thenostradamusthey make $$$$$$06:38
SQFreakdaile: What do you think of it??06:38
daileit's just perfect06:38
freddyYES!06:38
FoamY_is_wiccansteve ballamer can suck my big fat d****06:38
IceDC571they do make money actually, a lot of 20's in their tips06:38
daileI can see your text you sent to me in Red color, very easy to recognize06:38
IRCMonkeyi'm still learning but I'd be all for putting in the time to write some decent support docs...like how to config apache or samba etc...the docs on the ubuntu site are an incompetent joke06:38
jazzmanneone from indiana??06:38
FoamY_is_wiccanand i woud make it so anyone could understand linux06:39
daileSQFreak, Game doesn't have that nice coloring06:39
ksmurfalberta06:39
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ksmurfclose enough06:39
arentiesend Michael Jackson and Bobo, the pet monkey, to see Billy Gates06:39
daileSQFreak, I mean Gaim06:39
nickrudwow, bounties are for needed things, I'd put up money for a accounting system for non-profits.06:39
FoamY_is_wiccanactually steve isen't even worthy of that06:39
FoamY_is_wiccan>.<06:39
SQFreakIRCMonkey: http://ubuntuguide.org is actually pretty good docs, but ubuntulinux.com's are bad I agree06:39
FoamY_is_wiccanmight catch aids or sometin06:39
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enohi...06:40
IceDC571i hate photobucket06:40
arentieHibernating and the wlan0 doesn't work well together...does anyone know how to resolve?06:40
speeli think i would buy rich stallman a freggin razor06:40
IRCMonkeyummm thanks i'll make use of those, this install...if they are good I suck for not finding that earlier06:40
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enowhat is about:config?06:40
ksmurfhey is the order portion of the sessions command like priority ?06:40
FoamY_is_wiccanas anone ever wonderd what if terrorists blew up microsoft instead of the world trade ceneters06:40
FoamY_is_wiccanwhat life would be like?06:40
arentieeno, type it into your firefox address bar & see06:40
daile does anyone have problem with Enterprise Volume Manager. Sometimes, when I reboot, it's just stuck there for no reason!06:40
mgcrosshi all06:40
IceDC571i want to develop an app for Mac OS X called iSuck06:41
enooh thanks!06:41
ksmurfFoamy .... make me wish06:41
enothat's smart06:41
ksmurflol06:41
mgcrosslooking on advice for usb headset to use with Skype...any suggestions?06:41
speelLol ms has enough money to buy osama and his alwhatevers06:41
SRL2k5nesecito ayuda con mi ubuto???????06:41
SQFreakdaile: the biggest problem I have with KDE is not being able to press Ctrl+F4 to close a Firefox tab :)06:41
daileSQFreak, yeah that's true06:41
freddywhat kinda of a tard game is legostarwars?06:41
enothank you, that was great.06:41
freddylol06:41
IceDC571mgcross: what advice do you need?06:41
daileSQFreak, can you redefine it?06:41
arentieI think Google should be able to Osama now...06:42
ksmurfhey is the order portion of the sessions command like priority ?06:42
kdpi think theres a spanish channel around here somewhere.06:42
thenostradamusSQFreak, try Ctrl+W06:42
arentieI think Google should be able to find Osama now06:42
kdpfor SRL2k506:42
SQFreakdaile: See, I haven't seen where that particular shortcut is defined.06:42
SRL2k5no entiendo ingles hablen en espaol06:42
SQFreakthenostradamus: Thanks.06:42
freddySRL2k5, entra en el cuarto #ubuntu-es06:42
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thenostradamusnp06:42
SRL2k5k mas hago06:43
freddyO_o06:43
daileSQFreak, yeah? Did you really mean closing Tab or closing the whole firefox? Because closing I believe is Ctrl+W06:43
freddypregunta alla? ---> ask there?06:43
SRL2k5ok grax men06:44
IRCMonkeywhats the best file system to pick on the root drive? ext2, ext3, ReiserFS, FAT32 or one of the others in the list? it's on a 4GB harddrive with 250mb swap06:44
SQFreakdaile: closing tab. i use Ctrl+F4 on Windows Firefox.06:44
speelIRCMonkey, either ext3 or reiserfs06:44
freddySRL2k5, no problem.06:44
SQFreakIRCMonkey: I'd go with ext3 on a drive that small.06:45
ksmurfl8r all06:45
ksmurfand thanks06:45
FoamY_is_wiccani have put in a new hard drive anyone know how to make ubuntu use it?06:45
daileSQFreak, yeah but I think Ctrl+W always works anyway in closing Firefox's tab06:45
IRCMonkeyis there a manifest difference between them...in speed or in interaction?06:45
kdpSQFreak: you can also middleclick/mousewheelclick06:45
IRCMonkeyok ext3 it is06:45
freddyFoamY_is_wiccan, mount it06:46
freddyor put it in fstab06:46
FoamY_is_wiccankk06:46
speelhmm i wish there was a fstab gui06:46
daileFoamY_is_wiccan, or you can use that hard driver to try other distros or even some BSD ones like PCBSD06:46
IceDC571gnome recognizes new devices right away, but if you use a different wm, you should add it to your fstab06:46
freddyomg flash player for linux kicks flash player for mac06:47
kdpspeel: i believe there is...in whatjamacallit, oh damn i just forgot the name06:47
SQFreakkdp: i had trouble with that in Gentoo...06:47
IceDC571freddy: haha, how so?06:47
freddythe player on my mac SUCKS06:47
freddyreally bad06:47
speelreally? hm i never seen one06:47
kdpSQFreak: oh.  i just found it out today.  very useful.06:47
daileFoamY_is_wiccan, when I say hard driver, I mean hard drive. I think I shouldn't drink too much :)06:47
IceDC571ive never really noticed flash on a mac06:47
arentiegood night all...me need sleepie06:47
freddynite06:47
IceDC571goodnight06:47
freddyIceDC571, i work with flash half of my day06:47
arentieexit06:48
MrJunghow, do I install test06:48
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freddywe had to change some computers in the studio..because of the crappy player06:48
MrJungsorry06:48
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jasmuzanyone knows how to setup masquerading ?06:48
MrJunghow, do I install postmap06:48
kdpspeel: xfce! yeah, thats it.06:48
SQFreakkdp: it always used to try to paste whatever was in the clipboard into the address bar.06:48
speelxfce has a built in fstab gui?06:48
FoamY_is_wiccansame here man06:48
Nameless1can someone tell if its its possible to burn *.bin files i can only see the iso option  any1 know a good program for that (if any)06:48
IceDC571Nameless1: you should be able to burn it fine with gnomebaker or k3b06:49
speelNameless1, i think you right click on it then click burn06:49
kdpspeel: yeah.06:49
thenostradamusdon't u usually have a .cue along with a .bin?06:49
jasmuzanyone knows how to setup masquerading ?06:49
SaidinUnleashedwhere can I find md5sums for kubuntu? been looking for a while, and I'm either blind, stupid, both, or they're not there, and I doubt that they're not there.06:49
speelkdp, damn Lol how could ive missed it06:49
IceDC571you could just burn with a bin, but a cue could help out06:49
Nameless1thenostradamus: im missing the cue, but i have burnt bins with out cues in windows06:50
Nameless1what do i use to burn it i cant find any burning software that supports bin or cue its all iso :(06:50
crimsunSaidinUnleashed: did you check the kubuntu.org web site?06:50
IceDC571Nameless1: k3b06:50
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Nameless1tried k3b it only has the option for iso06:51
SQFreakyou could use a program called bin2iso - just alien'ify this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/PLD/dists/ra/PLD/i386/PLD/RPMS/bin2iso-1.9b-2.i386.html06:51
SaidinUnleashedcrimsun, been searching for quite a while06:51
IceDC571try what SQFreak said06:51
SaidinUnleashedah! down with the torrents!06:51
SaidinUnleashedLike I said, I'm blind :P06:51
IceDC571i love torrents, they always give me great speed06:51
RichardCi have a pentium 306:51
Nameless1thanx ill try that06:51
dailebye yo all. Heading to bed now. Have a nice day everyone! My open questions are still ... open: how to speed up Lexmark printer and how to fix Enterprise VOlume Manager!06:51
RichardCis it ok to run linux-686, or should i use linux-38606:52
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SQFreakI'm aliening it now...06:52
SaidinUnleashedanything pentium-pro or better is i68606:52
kdpoh damn i think i know how to setup a lexmark printer.06:52
IceDC571RichardC: pentium 3 starts at the 686 line so you're good06:52
kdpnow he just up and left.06:52
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IceDC571SaidinUnleashed: i thought pentium pro was 586?06:52
jasmuzanyone knows how to setup masquerading ?06:52
RichardCbetter question, can i run linux-686 without problems, an if so, will there be a performance boost?06:53
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SaidinUnleashedIceDC571, nope, i686 fixed the f00f error in the 586 family06:53
thenostradamusjasmuz: try shorewall06:53
jasmuzshorewall?06:53
RichardCI was thinking P3 started at 58606:53
SQFreakWell, I was going to offer Nameless1 the deb package I created. :)06:53
thenostradamusit's a firewall app06:53
IRCMonkeyI have a Celeron 400 with 64/ram and ubuntu seems to run perfect on it06:53
RichardCthats P2?06:53
kdpIRCMonkey: with X?06:53
RichardCerr, so 586 is p2?06:54
IceDC571RichardC: nah, it started at 686, you're good to go06:54
IRCMonkeysomething like that yes06:54
jasmuzthenostradamus: thing is i want to rout the internet to a ethernet over usb device (Sharp Zaurus SL5500)06:54
IceDC571586 is pentium pro and below, i read the wiki06:54
IceDC571pentium II too06:54
thenostradamushmm.........06:54
SQFreakI though P2 was i686.06:54
jasmuzroute*06:54
IRCMonkeywith Gnome and also ran it with KDE, set up an http Apache2 server live online and it performed as fast as ever06:55
RichardCIceDC571: will i notice a performance boost?06:55
RichardCits my understanding that i will, but im not sure06:55
SQFreakWhatever, I've got a Pentium M and I recompiled my kernel to optimize for that (as well as include the mm patch that I really needed to make the system run right)06:55
IRCMonkeythough the mouse delayied occaisonally...if it was WINXP it would have barely run so umbuntu did good here i think06:55
jasmuzthenostradamus: any ideas?06:55
RichardCanother question06:56
IceDC571RichardC: you should have a performance boost instead of using 386.. but i dont think you'll notice it06:56
SaidinUnleashedRichardC, main difference with the i386 compiled kernel is that it probably has 387 (fpu) emulation enabled06:56
SaidinUnleashedand you probably don't need it06:56
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thenostradamushttp://www.shorewall.net/06:56
SQFreakRichardC: Not a very noticable performance boost. If you're going to be recompiling your kernel anyway, change the optimization. But otherwise, it's not worth recompiling - there's not that much of a boost.06:56
SpecialBuddydoes anyone here play starcraft06:56
thenostradamusall i can think is to look there06:56
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thenostradamusand see if u can find anything06:56
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RichardCthe latest fglrx driver in apt is 8.8, while the latest actual version is 8.14.  where can i find a deb for 8.14?06:57
skel_hello how can i become root just for a short period of time06:57
skel_i need to replace a image for a program06:57
skel_but it wont allow me06:57
mannycsudo -s06:57
thenostradamusskel_: sudo bash06:57
freddyanyone have experiences with a tv card?06:57
mannycsudo -s will give you a root terminal until you exit the terminal06:57
IRCMonkeythe other system i'm going to be putting it on is a P3=650 w/320 mb ram so i'm expecting it'll be instant responce on that one.06:57
IceDC571my bad... pentium pro and higher is 68606:57
skel_thanks06:58
freddyi spent all my savings on this e306:58
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dennis_e3?06:58
freddyand ubuntu runs like if its taken by the hand of god06:58
skel_thenostradamus,  i still cant change anything in filestsem06:59
skel_that only makes me root in termial06:59
freddydennis_, 3e06:59
freddysorry06:59
IceDC571freddy: you're being too dramatic06:59
freddylol why?07:00
thenostradamusu could try in one of ur other terminals07:00
IceDC571freddy: i think you love ubuntu way too much07:00
SQFreakfreddy: I have an ATI TV-Wonder. What's up.07:00
thenostradamusCtrl+Alt+F107:00
freddyIceDC571, i am not going to hump it..no way07:00
kdpha.07:00
IceDC571freddy: i would07:00
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freddyhahaha07:00
freddySQFreak, i cant get my Leadtek winfast 2000 working man :(07:00
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SQFreakfreddy: Sorry, dunno...07:01
skel_uhh07:01
skel_i cant figure this out07:01
skel_lol07:01
SQFreakfreddy: my cards (Hauppauge! WinTV Go and ATI TV-Wonder) have always just worked in Linux07:01
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skel_hell yea07:02
SQFreakfreddy: I've still got my Hauppauge lying around somewhere. It's old and pretty crappy...07:02
IceDC571who wants some free video cards? i have one from hauppauge and one from ati07:02
skel_figured it out on my own07:02
skel_YEA!07:02
kdpskel_: we're now expecting you to do a major rewrite of the kernel.  by tomorrow.07:03
kdpgood luck!07:03
skel_lol07:03
skel_(^_^)07:03
skel_all i did was add a new gaim start up pic07:03
skel_:P07:03
skel_still learning07:03
skel_had to do sudo mv logo blah blah location07:04
Church_of_foamywishes kamping_kaiser was here07:04
budluvaIceDC571, ill take one :P my ubuntu box currently has a nvida 32meg tnt2 :P07:04
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freddychanging the logo foot from gnome menu and adding the ubuntu logo rocks :D07:06
thenostradamususing kde rocks07:06
thenostradamuslmao07:06
kdpi mean seriously, who uses a foot for their logo.07:06
skel_gnome foot so stupid07:06
skel_I wanna step on it07:06
IceDC571nah, its all about the slowness of gnome!07:06
thenostradamuslmao07:06
IceDC571thats actually my baby foot07:07
IceDC571dont make fun of me07:07
skel_i rathe ra peguin07:07
SQFreakfreddy: can you lspci and tell me what it says about your TV Tuner Card?07:07
IceDC571i dont mind having a gnome foot on my keyboard instead of the windows flag07:07
kdphahahha. stupid, useless windows key.07:07
IceDC571wtf.. why would you name your OS windows?07:07
freddyi woudl prefer a prostitute07:07
thenostradamusxbindkeys makes useless windows keys not useless;-)07:08
kdpreally. i shall look into that.07:08
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Seveassystem -> prefs -> keyboard / keyboard shortcuts07:08
freddySQFreak, 0000:06:01.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)07:08
freddy0000:06:01.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)07:08
Seveasthere you can do useful things with it too07:08
IRCMonkey_hello. Quick question. What is the name of the Art Software installed in ubuntu?07:08
SeveasIRCMonkey, The Gimp07:09
IRCMonkey_Seveas: thanks.07:09
IRCMonkey_is it available for windows?07:09
seth_kit is :)07:09
thenostradamusy is it called gimp?07:09
IRCMonkey_I'm at work and i want to get some good art software.07:09
IRCMonkey_okay. i'll get the gimp07:09
seth_khttp://gimp.org/windows/ is the URL07:09
kdpgnu image manipulation.........something07:09
IceDC571haha.. isnt gnome based on the gimp?07:09
seth_kprogram07:09
thenostradamusahhh07:10
IRCMonkeyi'm using an 8 year old computer but I'm pretty stocked about learning to get around linux...hopfully i'll be able to get it installed on the new system in the next little while...just have to figure out how to do the driver installs.07:10
freddykdp, program07:10
IRCMonkey_GNU Image Manipulation Program07:10
freddy:P07:10
IceDC571the gimp toolkit at least07:10
IceDC571without the gimp, would there be a gnome?07:10
seth_kIRCMonkey, you should be able to apt-get drivers for nvidia or ati07:10
biovoregnome was around before gimp07:10
IceDC571ohh07:10
IRCMonkey_thanks, seth_k07:10
IceDC571what was it based on before?07:10
biovoreI tihink the G is gnu, not sure..07:11
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IRCMonkeyGIMP isn't bad actually...not as loaded as photoshop but it's pretty close and the tools are visually the same so it's easy to learn.07:11
biovoreyou can add to gimp with perl scripts :-)07:11
biovoreit can do anything you want it to.. if you know what your doing07:11
IceDC571!info gtk07:11
kdpoh but thats always the tricky park.07:11
kdper, part.07:12
freddygimp IS based in gnome07:12
SQFreakfreddy: that's odd. My WinTV Go was a BT878 and I had no problems. Is the module for it in your kernel?07:12
IceDC571!info gtk+07:12
freddySQFreak, i have no idea where to start :D07:12
IceDC571oh lovely, no matches lol07:12
IRCMonkeymaybe...Creative seems to be not very into releasing new sound card drivers for my model...they aren't even releasing the win 64 bit drivers till the winter so who knows when Linux would be07:12
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SQFreakfreddy: Neither do I...mine just worked!07:13
kdpoh you know somethings bad when they wont even release it for windows.07:13
thenostradamushas anyone tried the new amd-64 X2 processors??07:13
freddySQFreak, damn, you didnt install any appl or something?07:13
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freddyor a driver?07:13
SQFreakfreddy: 'course, mine says Copyright 1998 Hauppauge Computer Works, Inc. on it...07:13
SQFreakfreddy: Just launched TVTime.07:13
SQFreakfreddy: the color was a tad off, so I had to adjust it a little.07:14
freddydamn man07:14
IceDC571"In place of the Qt toolkit, the GIMP Toolkit (GTK+) was chosen as the base of the GNOME desktop."07:14
freddyi think thats going to be it07:14
freddy=/07:14
freddyIceDC571, nice07:15
kdpwhat is Qt?07:15
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freddyQuake Thunder07:15
IceDC571Qt is what KDE is based on07:15
SeveasQrappy Trash07:15
freddyhaha07:15
kdphehehehehe.07:15
IceDC571actually quacker toats07:15
SeveasAn overly bloated object oriented graphic toolkit07:15
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IceDC571it was started in 1892 as an accidental bloated toolkit a pirate invented on the black pearl07:16
kdprofl.07:16
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IceDC571bill gates stole it then sold it to the open source community for part of the linux code07:16
Seveas:)07:16
kdpwait youre not serious....07:17
freddy-_-07:17
kdpb/c i would belive it.07:17
SeveasI am07:17
kdpno i mean about the bill gates part07:18
Seveashehe07:18
Seveaswell, Qt had some creepy licensing in the past07:18
kdpah.07:18
Seveasat the moment the license is about the only good thing07:18
kdpah yes i rmr reading something about that in a book.07:18
dennis_Hmm07:19
dennis_Can anyone help me with some firefox problems I'm having07:19
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Seveassure07:19
dennis_I click on an mp3 to download it and get an error07:19
IceDC571"KDE is a free software desktop environment that relies on the Qt toolkit  a piece of software written by Trolltech that did not use a free software license."07:19
Seveaswhat's the error ..?07:19
dennis_XML Parsing Erro: Not well-formed07:19
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IceDC571well i'm surprised07:19
Seveashmm07:19
kdphow can firefox mess up on downloading a mp3.07:19
boogabughello. i installed gimp on a Japanese WindowsMe pc.07:19
dennis_Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unknownContentTyle.xul07:19
Seveassounds like the server is buggy and senfing a wrong header07:19
boogabugHow can I get things in Gimp in English?07:19
Seveasoh...07:19
dennis_Line number 1, Coumn 20;07:20
Seveasboogabug, start it with LC_ALL=C gimp07:20
dennis_this._DS.GetTarget(mimeSource, valueProperty, true);07:20
boogabugthat command will work in windows?07:20
boogabugWindows OS?07:20
Seveasboogabug, maybe you should reinstall FF or at least move your ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way07:20
Seveasboogabug, no07:20
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Seveasdennis_, maybe you should reinstall FF or at least move your ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way07:21
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dennis_Hmm07:21
boogabugseveal, will that command work in windows?07:21
Seveasboogabug, sorry 'bout that firefox bit, was not meant for you :)07:21
dennis_How do I remove firefox completely07:21
boogabugyes.07:21
boogabugSeveas: will that command work in Windows07:21
boogabug?07:21
Seveasboogabug, no, i have no clue how to do that in windows07:21
kdpboogabug: someone else mentioned http://gimp.org/windows/ earlier07:21
Seveasdennis_, aptitude purge mozilla-firefox07:21
gm78Hey everyone. Does anyone know how to make Windows 2000 play nice with Samba on Ubuntu? I have no password set up on the Win2K computer and it still asks me for a password when I try to view a shared folder through Ubuntu. I can open shared folders on a WinXP computer just fine07:22
dennis_what does purge do?07:22
boogabugkdp, that's where i got the software.. but i don't think it will say how i can change the language, will it?07:22
Church_of_foamyi just really pissed off 2 people in kubuntu >.<07:22
Seveasbut it might be a problem with your settings, which will not be removed with purge07:22
Church_of_foamyand now i'm woriied about it >.<07:22
gm78boogabug, gimp-win.sourceforge.net07:22
Church_of_foamymaybe even 3 people >.<07:22
Seveasdennis_, it removes all global config files belonging to firefox too07:22
dennis_k07:22
thenostradamusdennis: apt-get remove firefox07:22
SeveasChurch_of_foamy, wth did you do..?07:22
kdpoops.  did you slander kde?07:22
IceDC571purge it baby!07:23
IceDC571it removes the config files with it07:23
boogabugGm78, i got the files from there, but i installed it on  a japnanese Windows pc.07:23
Church_of_foamycan i pm you with it id rather not say it here07:23
Seveassure07:23
gm78Church_of_foamy, lol, what did u do?07:23
gm78Church_of_foamy, oh, lol, nvm then07:23
dennis_Alright..07:23
gm78boogabug, what do u mean load in english?07:24
dennis_How do I install it again?07:24
boogabuggm78. Gimp's interface is all in Japanese.07:24
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gm78boogabug, a better place to ask for help with gimp on windows is to join the #gimp chatroom on this server07:24
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gm78boogabug, they probably know stuff like that better than us07:25
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boogabughow do i register and identify myself ith the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). ?07:26
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gm78boogabug, leave the server and then rejoin (not a chatroom, just connect to irc.freenode.net) it should give you a link to instructions07:27
IceDC571"The "K" originally stood for "Kool" ("C" as in "cool" was already given away to the Common Desktop Environment), but was changed soon after to stand simply for "K", which is "The first letter before 'L' (which stands for Linux) in the Latin alphabet."07:27
IceDC571wow07:27
kdp...............................................................................................07:28
IceDC571sorry im reading the KDE wiki finding this interesting07:28
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kdphahahahaha.07:28
boogabugGm78, no info in the main window.07:28
kdpthats possible one of the most random things ever.07:28
kdpK for Kool...07:29
boogabuggm78, no instructions.07:29
gm78hmmm....im not sure then07:29
thenostradamusaight, i gotta get some sleep..............g-night everyone07:29
gm78boogabug, does it say the nick is owned by someone else?07:29
IceDC571KDE does have a kreepy history07:29
SeveasK still stands for the 'kool' attitude all KDE programs have, extreme creeping featuritis07:29
boogabugit says nothing.07:29
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Seveasboogabug, /msg nickserv help07:30
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kdpmmmmmmmm dont you mean "extreme kreeping featuritis"07:30
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IceDC571kdp: lets not get karried away here07:31
Mikshow can i change the background color of my screen when the splash screen is loading?07:31
gm78kome on guys, kan we shut up about kde now :-P07:31
SQFreakWhat's wrong with KDE?07:31
boogabugokay. now i've registerd my nickname and password. how do i enter the Gimp chatroom now?07:32
Seveasboogabug, /join #giimp07:32
Seveasboogabug, /join #gimp07:32
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boogabugokay it warks.07:32
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kdpMiks: if you find the menu item for the login screen, it should have a little box with the color you want.07:33
Miksthanks kdp07:33
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KiceDC571i think im already konverting ;)07:33
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kdphahahaha.07:33
kdpaw......i cant.07:34
HWolfDoes anyone know how I can prevent the kernel from loading it's serial driver, so my serial port is free for lirc to use?07:34
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graystoneHello everyone.07:34
SeveasHWolf, add the driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:34
graystoneI need some help, you all don't mind.07:35
KiceDC571graystone: just ask07:35
graystoneI have installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but cannot get the wireless network card to work.07:35
seth_kwhat chipset?07:35
nickrudHWolf, do you have a special card that gives you the serial port you want?07:35
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graystoneIt's a Compaq Evo N610C w/Compaq WLAN W200 wireless card.07:35
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HWolfSeveas, which driver would that be?07:36
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HWolfnickrud, Just trying to get my lirc-reciever to work, but it needs to go around the kernel, somehow.07:36
jasmuz:S07:36
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nickrudHWolf heh, 'lirc-recievier07:37
HWolfnickrud, don't ask07:37
boogabugokay. what's the second best freeware art program after gimp? Something that can run in windows.07:37
nickrudnever heard of it07:37
boogabugI just need a simple image manipulation software.07:37
Amaranthboogabug: Doesn't exist, afaik.07:37
IRCMonkey_freeware...goodluck07:37
KiceDC571boogabug: paint.net is pretty good in windows07:37
boogabugnothing fancy needed.07:37
boogabugKiceDC571: htanks.07:37
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IRCMonkey_paint shop pro is good...30 day trial07:38
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boogabugIRCMonkey_, why "good luck"?07:38
IceDC571boogabug: search for paint net in google it'll be one of the first links, its nice and free.. it has layers too07:38
boogabugIceDC571: thanks!07:39
boogabugoh, i forgot to say. i need something that runs in WinMe. paint net won't run in win me, according to their website.07:39
IceDC571hmm...07:39
IceDC571lol WinME.. hmm...07:40
kdpboogabug: if you have the time, try imagemagick under cygwin07:40
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IceDC571wait Amaranth wernt you running WinME?07:40
IRCMonkey_because any professional graphic editing programs will be pay unless it's a project like linux or gimp...the amount of resources that go into such programs means whatever is free will likiely not be quality...I've used a LOT of that type of software over te years07:40
AmaranthIceDC571: Sadly.07:40
IRCMonkey_so yes...good luck :-D07:40
IceDC571Amaranth: so im guessing you didnt use any image apps while in winme?07:41
AmaranthIceDC571: Nope.07:41
AmaranthIceDC571: I'm running it right now.07:41
boogabugi just need a simple art program. nothing too professional.07:41
IRCMonkey_for what...whats the end goal07:41
IceDC571boogabug: are you considering using linux eventually?07:41
kdpi believe "paint" is a simple art program.07:41
boogabugice, at home i am using ubuntu.07:42
boogabugit's just at work.07:42
IRCMonkey_?resizing, text, photo retouching, graphic design etc..07:42
boogabugi have no choice but to use the computers they provide07:42
IceDC571im wondering why everyone's work has windowsme these days07:42
IRCMonkey_paint is indeed simple...but you can't do much with it.07:42
kdpmmm boogabug have you tried a live cd :-)?07:42
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boogabugi just need simple manipulation. Like Image Flipping.07:42
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IceDC571boogabug: have you tried picasa?07:43
boogabugkdp, don't want to try it at work. it may surprise my coworkers. they may never talk to me07:43
kdpoh.07:43
IRCMonkey_that's not graphic design...fliping, resizing, anything like that you can find freeware in any OS no problem07:43
Seveasboogabug, for simple yet advanced image manipulation, use imagemagick07:43
boogabugSeveas:imagemagick will work in WinMe and is freeware?07:44
ivoksboogabug: sure it will work with cygwin07:44
ivoksit isn't freeware :)07:44
goliathello there07:44
ivoksit's opensource project07:44
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kdpoh wow imagemagick does have a windows binary.07:45
kdpno cygwin needed.07:45
IRCMonkey_or really go hardcore and download a Paint Shop Pro Trial...it's as simple as can be done while maintaining a high level of functionality...in what i've used anyway....Photoshop would probablky drown you though.07:45
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freddybrb07:53
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Church_of_foamymy mouse has traveld 3176.7 feet today ^_^07:57
IceDC571boogabug: hows imagemagick?07:57
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cafuegoWhy don't you just run Gimp in windows?07:58
nickrudChurch_of_foamy I take it you found a real oldy :)07:58
goliatif i want a php on my apache to write on a folder and apache uses the user www-data should i set chowm www-data /folder/name  ?07:58
adwaithello ppl.....07:58
Church_of_foamy^_^ mouse odometer07:58
goliator does it have any negatives07:58
IceDC571adwait: hello there07:58
cafuegoUisng imagemagick via a crap commandline (cmd.exe) would suck07:58
adwaitgoliat: yes07:59
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goliatadwait, thank you07:59
adwaitgoliat: np07:59
nickrudheh, i remember that one07:59
Church_of_foamyit comes with kubuntu07:59
Church_of_foamyit's neat07:59
cafuegogoliat: Also set mode g+s and +t07:59
Church_of_foamythough  it takes up space in the k bar07:59
hondjehttp://www.gulftech.org/?node=research&article_id=00088-07022005 <--- ugly if you have a blog08:00
asproanyone in here use a mac? do you know what the status is with mac osx + ubuntu?08:00
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goliatcafuego goliat: Also set mode g+s and +t can u please just describe what ""cafuego goliat: Also set mode g+s and +t"" means ?08:01
asproerr, I mean I have had trouble with the new HFS+ used by tiger08:01
nickrudI haven't tried the kde one, but a few days of measuring can be dismaying08:01
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gm78Hey all. Do you know how to enable Canadian English or British English in OOo08:02
gm78spell check doesnt work when i select te08:02
gm78*them08:03
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nickrudspell check isn't working for me in oo either, en(usa).08:03
cafuegogoliat: Read 'man chmod' for info on what those modes do.08:03
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cafuegonickrud: That's ok, americans can't spell anyway.08:04
tlahtollihi08:04
gm78nickrud, it worked for me on English USA but i live in canada08:04
nickrudyes we can, we just prefer not to08:04
gm78cafuego, lol08:04
rommeri have a script that runs some commands as root/sudo, how can i make these commands run properly if the script is in /etc/cron.monthly so i dont have to run the script manually08:04
tlahtolliit's spelled colour isn't it08:04
cafuegogoliat: Did you install the en-ca add-on for OOo and/or the en-ca dictionary?08:04
gm78tlahtolli, lol, yes it is08:04
cafuegoEh, gm78 even...08:04
tlahtolliwonderful08:04
tlahtollinow if i may...08:05
tlahtollidoes amsn support v4l2?08:05
cafuegorommer: cron.* runs as root by default.08:05
rommercafuego: ok08:05
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gm78tlahtolli, i think they are adding support for it in 0.95, which is in cvs right now08:06
tlahtollioh really?08:06
tlahtollithat's cool08:06
tlahtolliby the way did you all know it has webcam support?08:06
gm78tlahtolli, amsn.sourceforge.net   they have some info there.... they do in stable?????? which is the latest version?08:06
gm78tlahtolli, or were u asking me if they do?08:07
goliatcafuego, i feel so stupid i cant understand what u are talking about08:07
goliatwhats OOo08:07
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cafuegogoliat: OpenOffice.org08:07
gm78goliat, OpenOffice.org08:07
goliatyep now i got it08:08
cafuegogoliat: It was meant for gm78, not for you.08:08
goliatwell i got openoffice.org08:08
goliatso called OOo08:08
goliatno i didnt download that08:08
goliatwell just as a question i work in an organisation in an arab coutry08:09
goliathow could i make OOo work in arabic08:09
goliatand how can i switch between english to arabic08:09
tlahtolligm78: well, the last cvs i downloaded, yeah, it has webcam support08:09
tlahtollii used it to talk to my sister in italy08:09
jasmuztake care people08:09
tlahtollibut i used an old quickcam08:10
tlahtolliand the picture quality wasn't as good08:10
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tlahtolliso now i'm trying to get the genius videocam nb to work with amsn08:10
tlahtolliit was a total pain trying to find the drivers08:10
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tlahtollibut it works, the only problem i get now is that amsn can't list the channel the camera's on08:11
nickrudThe strange thing is, I think I have all the default english oofice stuff installed, but settings->options->language options has no engiish usa, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong place08:11
Adrossi just reinstalled xp(for creative zen touch) and everything went fine. GRUB is still there and everything. Thing is, when i choose to boot into windows, i get an 'ntldr is missing' error. If i recall, this relates to booting, but it doesn't make any sense. Any tips?08:12
nickrudhuh, writing aids, i mean08:12
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SpecialBuddyis there a way to change the color settings on kubuntu08:12
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SpecialBuddywhere is device manager on jubuntu08:17
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SpecialBuddykubuntu08:17
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AmaranthSpecialBuddy: #kubuntu might be more helpful08:18
SpecialBuddythanks08:19
SpecialBuddydo you know much about wine08:19
Amaranthnot really08:20
SpecialBuddyoh08:20
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SpecialBuddyI think I need to download drivers for my video card08:20
Amaranthfor wine?08:20
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beginnerMKIIHey guys i am new to linux and im trying to follow this thing off a site, but whats the deal everytime i do the sudo.... ... ... at the terminal, it asks for password?? :S08:24
Adrossleave the same terminal open08:24
Amaranthit has a timeout value08:24
Adrossoh yeh08:24
Amaranthif you leave the terminal open and use it a couple times in a row you only get asked once08:25
beginnerMKII??08:25
Amaranthif you close the terminal you get asked again and if you don't use it for awhile you get asked again08:25
beginnerMKIIIt doesn't even let me type in the field08:25
Amarantherr08:25
beginnerMKIII don't understand08:25
Amaranthoh, i see08:26
Amaranthhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:26
Amaranthyou can't see yourself typing anything, but you are08:26
beginnerMKIIoh08:26
Amaranthit doesn't show so someone watching can't see how long your password is08:26
beginnerMKIIlol08:26
HWolfI'm looking for a way to prevent the kernel from loading its serial driver, so the hardware stays open for lirc to use, any takers?08:26
beginnerMKIIBut i do not know what password is anyway? it doesn't mention their is one, or ones needed.08:27
comadrejahow do I add support in my ubuntu for multiple wireless networks, so I can change from one to the other... ?08:27
Amaranthit's your own password08:27
Amaranththat URL i gave explains it all08:27
nickrudHWolf /etc/hotplug/blacklist?08:27
beginnerMKIICool, thanks, i go check it08:27
beginnerMKIIOh yes !08:27
beginnerMKIIYou are right08:27
beginnerMKIIThanks !08:27
comadrejain a laptop, I mean having three different network configs and changing08:27
Burgundaviacomadreja, nothing easy currently. There is a fix for Breezy08:28
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HWolfnickrud, no, it needs to be clear *before* /etc/modules is called. :S08:28
comadrejaBurgundavia : so I have to stick to laptop-net08:28
Burgundaviacomadreja, yes08:28
Burgundaviacomadreja, ugly, but true08:28
comadrejaBurgundavia : I could work out a solution, where could I propose it ?08:29
Burgundaviacomadreja, there is already a solution08:29
nickrudHWolf so, maybe a kernel with no serial drivers :)08:29
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HWolffabbione, around?08:29
comadrejaBurgundavia : not backported ?08:29
Burgundaviacomadreja, http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/networkmanager/08:29
Burgundaviacomadreja, not yet stable08:29
Burgundaviacomadreja, mostly there but needs some polish08:29
Burgundaviaif you want to do some coding on it, talk to thom is #ubuntu-devel08:30
comadrejaBurgundavia : well, good to know anyway :) thanks a lot08:30
comadrejaoh, cool, I'll go there right away08:30
comadrejathanks :)08:30
Burgundavianp08:30
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Razor-Xhey!08:31
Razor-Xi'm home from a shitt-as-hell trip *sigh*08:31
Razor-X*sight08:31
Razor-Xmmmm, emacs....08:31
Razor-X*shit08:32
Razor-Xdunno how shit == sight08:32
nickrudhey Razor-X long time no crap08:32
Razor-Xtrue that, i'm backed up as hell eating all that damned pizza ;)08:33
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nickrudcheese08:33
nickrudlove it08:33
Razor-Xmmmmmmm08:33
Madpilotwe didn't need to know, that Razor-X...08:33
Razor-Xand Pepperoni08:33
Madpilot;)08:33
Amaranthnew topic08:34
Razor-XMadpilot: ;)08:34
Razor-Xanyways, I need emacs to settle meself08:34
Razor-Xmmmmm, emacs.... *sigs loudly*08:34
Razor-XI don't think i'll be eating pizza for a long long time08:34
Razor-Xlike... a week08:34
cafuegoHonestly, sounds like that trip is the least of your worries08:34
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Razor-Xcafuego: ;)08:34
Razor-X*sighs08:34
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=== Razor-X used to be a vim user
nickrudI am a user of a non operating system editor08:36
mannyctry emacs-snapshot-gtk08:36
Razor-Xnickrud: there exists none-truly such ;)08:37
Razor-XELF is a binary specific to a very large set of systems, large nonetheless ;)08:37
nickrudemacs-snapshot-gtk?08:37
Razor-Xmannyc: even if emacs is its own terminal08:37
Razor-Xi'm not about to gtk it08:38
Razor-Xwhen my terminal works fine08:38
mannychttp://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsCvsAndDebian with debian (ubuntu) instructions..08:38
Razor-Xmy specifically configured eterm, at that08:38
mannycrazor-x08:38
mannyc: no problems...whatever you like08:38
mannyci use both vi and emacs08:38
Razor-XI can use vi, of course08:38
Razor-XI used to be a vi user08:38
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Razor-Xbut what finally made me throw in the towel was the new rendering of idiotic movement controls08:39
nickrudlol08:39
Razor-Xthe movement controls are all over the keyboard ;), plus I prefer the hard feeling of emacs keys08:39
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gpdnew rendering of idiotic movement what?  you mean hjkl?08:40
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nickrudyou know, I am totally agnostic; I just love to tweak it now and then :)\08:40
Razor-Xgpd: exactly, hjkl are in totally different places08:40
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Razor-Xnickrud: you mean, you support use of joe? ;)08:40
nickrudhey, I point people at nano08:40
gpdnano is for your mother... vim is for your soul... emacs is for gardening text files08:41
cafuegonano is satan08:42
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gpdI have used them all, but vim is the most ergonomic for me08:42
cafuegoit destroys code formatting08:42
nickrudoh, that almost made me a gardener08:42
Razor-Xgpd: great analogy08:42
gpdand command history is the dogs08:42
Razor-Xmind if I use it?08:42
Razor-X(with due credit given, of course)08:42
gpdno probs08:42
Razor-Xi'm writing a newbie's introduction to the world of CLI08:42
Razor-Xand a large chapter is devoted to text editors08:42
cafuegogpd: vim is the most ergonomic for anyone, it's just that emacs users are too stubborn.08:42
Razor-Xironically, I fell to emacs researching for the guide08:43
Proteque:D08:43
gpdemacs keys fit well with the console08:43
gpdas the binding are of course the same08:43
Razor-Xcafuego: I think you mean 'most anyone'08:43
Razor-Xhjkl are poles apart on my keyboard08:43
Protequegpd: what bindings is that?08:43
gpdonly nutters do set -o vi08:43
cafuegoRazor-X: Well, not quadraplegics, of course08:43
Razor-Xcafuego: or Dvorak users ;)08:43
cafuegoRazor-X: Same diff08:43
gpdin the console... Ctrl-U, B, K, Q... etc...08:43
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Razor-XQWERTY is a beast I am not going to touch any time soon, and therefore, I need everything tailored around my tastes08:44
gpdcommand line editing in bash defaults to emacs keybindings08:44
_corywhats up guys08:44
Razor-Xmy eterm, my eterm binds, my text editor, my SSH shell, my IRC binds, everything08:44
_coryhey is it just me or is kubuntu a bit more difficult then ubuntu with gnome?08:44
Razor-Xmy whole Linux flavor is tailored exactly to me, custom with my thumb trackball08:44
cafuegogpd: Yeah, I've been meaning to file a bug against that...08:44
Razor-X_cory: just you ;)08:44
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gpdcafuego: try set -o vi08:45
gpdit is scary but you might love it08:45
_corymaybe u can help me then razor :), i need to get ndiswrapper on this by0tch..whats my best bet for getting it on here?08:45
cafuegogpd: It's needs to be the default08:45
Razor-X_cory: ahhh, don't have that much experience, but I hear ndiswrapper is a bitch as it is08:45
_coryit is08:45
Razor-Xthere are wiki pages on it though08:45
Razor-Xquite a few08:45
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_coryi had it working on my old ubuntu08:45
Razor-Xso, read up is all I can suggest *shrugs*08:45
gpdanyone use amd64 hoary?08:46
_coryno apt-get :(?08:46
ablyssdoesn't opera use ndiswrapper?08:46
_corygpd: i'm using it right now08:46
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Razor-X_cory: of course there's apt-get08:46
cafuego_cory: Does the card you want to use have win64 drivers?08:46
Razor-Xablyss: possibly, have to check that out on my Opera install08:46
_coryi'd assume so08:46
gpd_cory: do you chroot for dvd playback? - mine seems broken...08:46
_coryit came with xp and all that shit lol08:46
cafuego_cory: Yes or no.08:46
Razor-Xbut, I don't have a need for ndiswrapper, so, ;)08:46
Razor-Xcafuego: he's not using a 64 box08:46
gpd_cory: but sound in chroot is weird as flash sound works but /dev/dsp seems busted08:46
_coryi havn't tried dvd playback yet, i just installed the 64 bit version...i was using the regular08:47
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cafuegoRazor-X: d'oh!08:47
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cafuegogpd: I use brrezy amd64; I don't bother with flash, it crashes firefox even if I run the hoary one in a 32bit chroot.08:47
Amaranthcafuego: Did you get my messages?08:47
cafuegoAmaranth: Doesn't look like it...08:48
ablyssfirefox crashes for regardless08:48
ablyssfor me*08:48
Amaranthcafuego: I had one suggestion that I can't remember and I told you I own the UbuntuBot nick if you want it for ubotu.08:48
cafuegoAmaranth: Ah, neat :-)08:48
nickrudcafuego I'm picking up an amd64 soon, have you tried any of the 32 bin in a breezy chroot yet?08:48
Amaranthcafuego: I'm assuming you wanted that but couldn't get it at the time. :)08:48
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cafuegonickrud: No, I've recent deleted all 32bit chroots, if it ain't 64 i have no need to run it.08:49
nickrudheh, so, no flash, etc08:49
cafuegoAmaranth: Well, I was actually after 'ubuntu' but i dunno who owns that.08:49
AmaranthHa.08:49
cafuegonickrud: flash is the biggest waste of time this side of the galaxy as far as I'm concerned.08:49
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AmaranthYou can't have 'ubuntu', it's what the LiveCD users come in as.08:49
nickrudlol08:49
Nameless1can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso08:50
cafuegonickrud: I haven't used it for YEARS, even on Win/Mac08:50
nickrudi'm on dialup, that was the first thing I wiped from my system for this situation08:50
cafuegoAmaranth: Bastards, can't they be renabled to 'knoppix' or something? ;-)08:50
Amarantha non-dev registered it though, probably so they could be funny and ghost people08:50
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Amaranthat least i don't think it was a dev08:50
dennis_One quick question08:51
Amaranthjdub: Do you know who owns the 'ubuntu' nick? If it's not one of you you should ask lilo to give it to you.08:51
dennis_Can anyone recommend a good pod casting program for ubuntu?08:51
Amaranthjdub: Otherwise it's open for abuse seeing how that's what LiveCD users join as.08:51
cafuegoAmaranth: Whoever did, they haven't used it on 28 weeks08:51
dennis_Anyone know of a good pod casting program?08:51
Amaranthcafuego: They haven't identified in 28 weeks08:52
cafuegodennis_: vim and apache208:52
Amaranthcafuego: As ubuntu. There is a difference.08:52
dennis_wtf?08:52
Amaranthcafuego: Err, I think he means for downloading podcasts08:52
dennis_Apache2 for podcast?08:52
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dennis_I mean't to manage casts08:52
cafuegodennis_: yes08:52
dennis_yes08:52
dennis_Managing casts..not making them08:52
cafuegodennis_: apache2, an xml file and a bunch of mp3's ;-)08:52
dennis_No programs???08:53
Amaranthcafuego: He isn't making them. He wants to subscribe to some.08:53
dennis_That will fetch the latest show on startup like in windows?08:53
cafuegoAmaranth: Yeah, I consider 'not identifying' 'not using'08:53
cafuegoAmaranth: aaah, he wants a podcast client08:53
dennis_You guys know of any?08:53
AmaranthNot I.08:54
dennis_:(08:54
Nameless1can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso08:54
cafuego!find podcast08:54
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dennis_lol08:54
cafuegoSame thing as flash08:54
cafuegouseless drivel ;-008:54
unomegtkpod maybe?08:55
dennis_gtkpod08:55
dennis_hmm08:55
Amaranthgtkpod is for working with an iPod08:55
unomehmm08:55
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'podcast' returned no results.08:55
dennis_ipodder08:56
dennis_is one...08:56
dennis_I'm going to try and install it08:56
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unome!find gnupod-tools08:56
ubotugnupod-tools: (A collection of Perl-scripts for iPod), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.94rc1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 348 kB08:56
robitailledennis_: I use http://ipodder.sourceforge.net/08:56
dennis_Thats what I'm going to use :D08:56
dennis_Installing now08:56
robitailledennis_: http://linc.homeunix.org:8080/scripts/bashpodder/ is a simple one08:57
dennis_What are some good pod casts?08:57
dennis_I know of Twit08:57
dennis_but thats it08:57
robitailledennis_:  lugradio.org08:57
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robitailledennis_: http://www.thelinuxlink.net/tllts/08:57
Nameless1can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso08:58
dennis_robitaille, how do you install ipodder?08:58
dennis_nvm08:58
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robitailledennis_:  download it, extract (tar?) then  run the installer?  I haven't done it in a while, but I think it was pretty simple.08:59
_coryshouldn't the cmd "grep network" disp all network devices?09:00
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dennis_ps aux | grep network09:01
dennis_I think09:01
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nickrud_cory maybe ifconfig ?09:01
_corypossible09:01
_coryletme try that09:01
bimberi_cory: ifconfig09:01
_corynah i'm trying to find out the actual name of my wireless card09:02
_coryit's a broadcom sumthing..09:02
_coryi really need the model number09:02
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bimberi_cory: "lspci" might have some clues09:02
_coryyeah thats true09:03
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freddysplashy thingy wont work09:03
freddygrr09:03
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_coryawesome that got it..thx bimberi09:03
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bimberi_cory: yw :)09:04
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aCiD2Hi all09:06
freddyhi you09:06
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aCiD2To compile Muine I need gtk+2.6 - ubuntu seems to come with only gtk+-2.0, s that correct?09:06
orlandohi does anyone know of a program to convert .mpg into .gif09:06
freddygimp?09:06
orlandowow really?09:07
orlandook thanks09:07
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freddyok i need to make a test to my mother09:07
nickrudaCiD2 muine is avaialbe in ubuntu, why do you want to compile it?09:08
freddyi need to find away to make ubuntu to look almost identical as windows09:08
IceDC571could someone reccomend an online music store that will work with my ipod?09:08
freddydo you guys know a good tutorial?09:08
orlandohmmm it says unknown filetype09:08
orlandowhen i try to open .mpg in gimp09:08
freddyorlando, mpg? what are nuts?09:08
aCiD2nickrud, I need m4a support09:08
nickrudlol, msybe09:08
freddyorlando, i thought you said jpg09:09
freddylol09:09
orlandoumm?09:09
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MolochOwl.mpg and .gif are apples and oranges09:09
freddylol09:09
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freddyits like dicks and cars09:09
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nickrudaCiD2 , heh, I haven't really looked at the latest stuff09:10
orlandoso how do i convert .mpg to .gif09:10
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MolochOwlinmore ways than one hehe09:10
aCiD2Whoops09:10
nickrudand, what the hell is m4a09:10
aCiD2Anyway, does anyone know how I can get muine to play m4a (AAC) files without a recompile?09:10
nickrud:)09:10
AmaranthaCiD2: You can't09:10
aCiD2m4a is apple's main file format (I used to use iTunes on windows, and it rips cds with aac)09:11
aCiD2Amaranth, you mean without a recompile09:11
AmaranthaCiD2: You need to apply a patch and recompile.09:11
aCiD2Cool09:11
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MolochOwl.mpg is a vidio file...so many many frames of stills per second make it up. .gif allows for animation but only a very very small amount and the file size/quality will be crap.09:11
AmaranthaCiD2: m4a is a container format, you really mean AAC09:11
aCiD2Is there anything that needs to be done to get rhythm box to play aac?09:11
Amaranthbut yeah09:11
dennis_Hmm09:11
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aCiD2Amaranth, yea, my bad09:11
AmaranthaCiD2: get gstreamer-faad09:11
dennis_How do you install a deb?09:12
aCiD2Amaranth, got that already09:12
AmaranthaCiD2: That's all there is to it for rhythmbox.09:12
aCiD2Hmmm09:12
poningruI had a question why doesnt ubuntu have something like planet.mozilla.org09:12
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Amaranththey do09:12
aCiD2:P09:12
Amaranthplanet.ubuntu.com09:12
poningruplease link09:12
action09poningru planet.ubuntu.. :)09:12
MolochOwlbasically your not going to have much luck turning an mpg into a few seconds of gif.09:12
poningrurofl09:12
poningruI searched around for that like crazy couldnt find one09:13
dennis_dennis@Spartan:~$ sudo rpm -U /home/dennis/Desktop/skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb09:13
dennis_/home/dennis/Desktop/skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb: read manifest failed: Success09:13
dennis_:(09:13
poningruheh09:13
poningruthanks guys09:13
aCiD2Amaranth, faad or faac?09:13
IceDC571well for some odd reason, out of the box.. rhythmbox didnt support my ipod, when i had gstreamer-faad2 too, it said something about it not being able to read the vfs.. then a couple weeks later it works mysteriously09:13
freddympg to gif09:13
freddylol09:13
IceDC571aCiD2: you want faad09:13
IceDC571d for decoding, c for encoding09:13
dennis_Anyone here have skype installed?09:13
freddyIceDC571, damn man :(09:13
aCiD2ahhh09:13
AmaranthaCiD2: faad09:13
aCiD2cool, I wonder what the difference was there :)09:13
freddyoh!! IceDC571 !!09:13
freddyit works!09:13
aCiD2which repo is gstreamer-faad on?09:13
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IceDC571freddy: what works?09:14
AmaranthaCiD2: not in ubuntu at all09:14
dennis_Anyone here use skype?09:14
aCiD2ah, ok09:14
freddyIceDC571, the ipod09:14
aCiD2google time09:14
AmaranthaCiD2: You need to pluck it from marillat manually.09:14
aCiD2marillat?09:14
nickrudah09:14
dennis_Noone does ???09:14
Amaranthgoogle is your friend :)09:14
Amaranthdennis_: Nope.09:15
dennis_Hmm09:15
dennis_WEll09:15
aCiD2Yea, Im googlin' now :)09:15
dennis_The skype page gives instructions on how to install RPM and Tar...09:15
dennis_but not deb09:15
n1k0hi, anyone knows good python ide?09:16
freddyhttp://www.skins.be/framepic.php?id=16611&size=102409:16
freddynice belt09:16
freddyLOL09:16
Razor-Xhmmm, what's the address for hoary-extras repo?09:16
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n1k0it's allready in /etc/apt/sources.list..just un comment09:17
internatanyone care to tell me where i can get a copy of the default .config file used for the kernel?09:17
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IceDC571freddy: you have an ipod?09:17
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Razor-Xn1k0: oh, that's just universe, and that crap?09:18
dennis_Anyone here use skype????09:18
dennis_Anyone?09:18
freddyIceDC571, yes dude we were talking about it like 2 ours ago O_o09:18
pregodennis_, I've used it sometimes09:18
dennis_On ubuntu?09:18
freddyinternat, i...have mine *shrug*09:18
dennis_prego, mind if I pm you?09:18
pregodennis_, yeah09:18
freddywant me to send it or something?09:18
freddyit is default.09:18
internatyeah ok09:18
pregodennis_, wait, i have to look for the micro09:19
n1k0Razor-X: ou jea..I'm not even sure is there extra repos...mut have you tried backports?09:19
internatcause frigs me where the helll it is, i cant find it anywhere09:19
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nickrudinternat it's in /boot/, named comfig-$(uname -r)09:19
internatah09:19
Razor-Xn1k0: of course, of course ;)09:19
n1k0Razor-X: =)09:19
n1k0god damn I have lousy english :/09:19
nickrudand I cant't type worth a damn09:20
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internathmms ok so its modulieed.. why the frig cant i get my sound card wroking09:20
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n1k0hey everybody, where are you from?09:21
beginnerMKIIhey guys in 'sudo cp speedtch* /lib/hotplug/firmware' whats the * refering to, i don't have speedtch as directory of filename, i'm confused as to what it could be ..09:21
n1k0Finland09:21
Tomcat__beginnerMKII: speedtch* matches all filenames and directories that start with speedtch and end in anything.09:22
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Tomcat__n1k0: Germany09:22
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freddyVenezuela09:22
Tomcat__Oi.09:22
n1k0=)09:23
freddyOi?09:23
nickrudn1k0 seattle09:23
freddyyou dont like Venezuela or something?09:23
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beginnerMKIIThanks Tomcat09:24
n1k0no =) I like venezuela :) kind of exotick place09:24
Tomcat__No, just that Venezuela is one of the countries you don't meet someone from every day. :)09:24
n1k0exotick = exotic09:24
n1k0:D09:24
freddywell nice to meet you guys then09:24
freddy:)09:24
n1k0:)09:24
Tomcat__When you log onto IRC, it's hard *not* to find anyone from Germany, Finland or the US... but Venezuela is different.09:24
internatanyyone able to tell me a place to configure my creative labs soundcard, i jjust did a clean install and it wont work, but the modules will load if fi modprobe it but still no sound :S09:25
kolasI have mounted my ext3 /dev/hda5 partition on /mnt/stock, but I would prefer to have it mounted like a volume on the desktop, how to do that ?09:25
Tomcat__How's the Internet at your place? Broadband available? University? Modem?09:25
freddyTomcat__, well here i am :)09:25
freddyall that09:25
n1k0all09:25
pregoHello guys, I'm planning to buy a new computer. Should I choose an AMD 64 or get a P IV?09:25
n1k0I use broadband09:25
nickrudkolas you need to make your partition an option user in fstab09:25
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n1k0actually in Finland it's called adsl09:25
freddyimma at my bed with my laptop Tomcat__ , there is no horses and stuff here09:25
Tomcat__prego: Depends on your needs, but I suggest the AMD64... got one. :)09:26
aCiD2could anyone do me a favour and copy the contents of "www.ubuntuforums.org/#codecs" to a pastebin or something? For some reason, I cant access the site09:26
jonohi all, I added an extra repo in sources.list and have since removed it - how can I search my system for all software installed from that repo?09:26
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kolasnickrud: so, w/dev/hda5       /mnt/stock      ext3    defaults        0       209:26
Tomcat__freddy: Yeah I know Venezuela is not that rural, I'm not American... :P But still, many countries don't have broadband.09:26
pregoTomcat__, I have some questions about AMD64... do you use ubuntu64 or ubuntu32?09:26
kolasnickrud: sorry, how to change this line then : /dev/hda5       /mnt/stock      ext3    defaults        0       2 ?09:26
Tomcat__On the other hand, the question was stupid... I got a relative in Chile, and he has broadband. :o09:26
freddyTomcat__, ;) you thought we had horses, tell the truth09:27
nickrudkolas 'defaults,user' is the only change you should need i think09:27
n1k0no girls here? ;) ;)09:27
internatanyone?09:27
Tomcat__prego: 32... there are no 64-bit binaries for Flash and w32codecs.09:27
kolasnickrud: thanks09:27
pregofreddy, horses carrying hard drives as broadband?09:27
freddyn1k0, they are not that easy09:27
nickrudkolas that's from memory, I think it works09:27
n1k0:D09:27
freddyprego, yeah hehe09:27
pregoTomcat__, but I can dual boot, and so on... can't I?09:27
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Tomcat__freddy: Maybe your farmers... not in the cities though... I've seen enough latin american cities. :P09:28
Tomcat__prego: Sure.09:28
freddyhaha09:28
n1k0Just thinking how many girls would be here in #ubuntu09:28
n1k0:D09:28
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freddyno seriously, there was an epidemy and we have no horses anymore :(09:28
pregoTomcat__, and what about that "chroot" mess I 've heard about...09:28
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pregofreddy, :-((09:28
freddyhaha09:28
Tomcat__prego: Details? I'm not sure what you mean.09:28
freddy;)09:28
kolasnickrud: it means that it would appear on any user's desktop, and being read-writable, right ?09:28
n1k0coffee break09:28
freddyprego, j/k :P09:29
freddyi dont know where to get a horse in my own country tho09:29
freddylol09:29
pregoTomcat__, as I've heard of, you can still use ubuntu64 and run there flash and w32codecs under chroot environment (If only I knew what does that mean....)09:29
nickrudkolas without testing it again, yes I do believe that is correct09:30
Tomcat__prego: chroot means changing your / mounted filesystem temporarily to another place... mh....09:30
freddyi need to see something bizarre...09:30
freddyim bored09:30
pregoTomcat__, perhaps that guys do two installs and chroot to the other one... I don't know09:30
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freddyHOLY SHIAT09:30
Tomcat__prego: Actually, that's not a bad idea... if you have an Ubuntu32 for example in /u32... then you could chroot to /u32 and load w32codecs there, because it would use 32 bit libs...09:31
jonoanyone have any problems using lame with grip?09:31
pregoTomcat__, btw you are satisfied with 32 bit perfornance of the AMD64?09:31
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nickrudkolas hm, actually, I think it would be read writeable to the original mounter, actually09:31
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freddy433 ppl in this room and im the only one from venezuela? that saxs :(09:31
Tomcat__prego: I have never seen the 64 bit performance... so no idea really. When I got time I'll install a 64 bit next to it.09:31
nickrudactually :)09:32
Tomcat__prego: The speed in one CPU-intensive app only about doubled from my old K7 1700+ to my new AMD64 3000+... so I'm not really satisfied.09:32
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pregoTomcat__, nice!09:32
freddyno, not nice.09:32
freddynot satisfied = not good09:33
eyequeuefreddy:  i guess the ratio may be different in #ubuntu-es maybe?09:33
HrdwrBoBtelemaco: telemaco the K7 would be 1.7ghz right?09:33
HrdwrBoBer tomcat09:33
internattutorials, soundcards anyone?09:33
Tomcat__HrdwrBoB: No, 1700+ is about 1.4 to 1.5 GHz.09:33
HrdwrBoBand the 3000+ is in fact 1.8ghz09:33
HrdwrBoBso the speed increase is huge09:33
freddyeyequeue, i hate getting support or talking about linux in spanish...i cant find myself thru it09:33
IceDC571freddy: do you have any aac's on your ipod?09:33
HrdwrBoBthe 1700+ and 3000+ is a relative measure09:33
pregoTomcat__, freddy still sleeping, sorry... :-P09:33
Tomcat__Well if you're comparing the frequencies, yes, but I doubt a 64 3000+ is only twice as fast as a K7 1700+ :)09:34
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freddywhat the heck is an aac? IceDC571, and why do you take 3 hours to answer? :P09:34
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eyequeuefreddy:  well, you're certainly welcome in here, and i'll guess your english is better than my spanish09:34
IceDC571freddy: sorry, im talking to some girls09:34
freddyoh09:34
IceDC571freddy: aac/mp4/m4a09:34
freddygirls are better then me for sure09:34
HrdwrBoBTomcat__: .. the 300+ is a RELATIVE MEASURE09:34
eyequeuepriorities, heh09:34
HrdwrBoB3000+09:34
freddyeyequeue, i hope im welcome09:34
HrdwrBoBalso, you have the slowest a64 you can currently buy09:35
HrdwrBoBwhat do you expect?09:35
nickrudHrdwrBoB a question: all things relative, is it worth my money buying a 64bit top end, or staying with a 32bit top end?09:35
freddyi dont want to be aside because im from south america :(09:35
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HrdwrBoBnickrud: the athlon64 is well worth buying, I have a 3200+09:35
Mihai_I need help for mounting a fat32 partition in ubuntu09:36
nickruddo you run 64bit, and do you have a chroot for the 32 bit stuff?09:36
HrdwrBoBnope09:36
pregoHrdwrBoB, but then an XP+ 3,4 which MHz actually runs?09:36
Mihai_I've tryed with mount and I've crashed the system09:36
eyequeuefreddy:  no way, you're an ubuntu user, and it doesn't matter if you're from (sud)america or south ... africa, (like a number of the developers) heh09:36
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Juhaznickrud, it's not worth your money to buy _any_ top-end, go for the mid-range 64-bit and it's vastly faster than 32-bit top end and vastly cheaper than 64 bit top end09:36
Mihai_can this be done from somewhere in the menu?09:37
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Tomcat__HrdwrBoB: I *know*... I'm not saying "Oh well (3000 - 1700) / 1700 = 0.76 so it should be 1.76 as fast..."... I'm saying "A new CPU should be more than twice as fast as a CPU that is 5 years old".09:37
freddyeyequeue, oh well thanks man :) fair enough09:37
Hoxzerhow do I active my  connection in console?09:37
HrdwrBoBTomcat__: they are.09:37
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HrdwrBoBTomcat__: you bought the cheapest CPU in the range.09:37
Tomcat__Well, then I'm right - I'm not satisfied. :)09:37
Hoxzermy fucking mom shutdown my shell server AARGH09:37
MadpilotTomcat__: it's not just raw Ghz. FSB speed & much else has improved as well in the last 5yrs.09:38
freddyeyequeue, but its like im the only one from south america here, and i spose youve heard about southamericans are seeing around the world09:38
pregoHoxzer, hey boy honor your mom a little bit, since she grew you up! :-P09:38
Hoxzer:P09:38
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Tomcat__Madpilot: Exactly, that's why I'm not calculating any difference... I only think an age difference of 4 to 5 years should be more than a double in performance.09:38
freddyeyequeue, thats why sometimes i hate where i come from... :(09:38
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Tomcat__So I guess it's the fact I'm running a 32 bit system.09:38
nickrudbut, my question really revolves around getting the 32bit stuff on a 64 bit system. And, since I have not had any chance to keep over the last 6 montsh09:38
Hoxzerbut hey, how do I active eth0?09:38
Mihai_can someone help me edit my /etc/fstab?09:39
Hoxzerin console09:39
yuachtMihai_, sure09:39
Tomcat__But I've never done a good benchmark anyway... only comparing climateprediction speeds.09:39
peterretiefhey all, how do I install irectly from a deb?09:39
eyequeuefreddy:  only one *currently* from s.a. ... earier i was talking with someone needing 300 cds for an installfest (!!!) and he was in .br :)09:39
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Tomcat__peterretief: sudo dpkg -i <blah>.deb09:39
HrdwrBoBI use a 32 bit install on a 64bit CPU09:39
Mihai_yuacht, I whant to automount a fat32 particion which is on /dev/hda209:39
eyequeuepeterretief:  dpkg -i foo.deb09:39
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ilucivhi09:39
peterretiefthansk Tomcat__09:39
HrdwrBoBthe 64 bit system isn't that much faster09:39
Mihai_yuacht, I've tryed mount from the command line and I've crashed the system09:39
freddyjesus christ09:39
freddy300 cds09:40
JuhazTomcat__, that doesn't really make any sense, you can still get the very same 1700+, should it have doubled in speed as well, just because you purchase it later?09:40
nickrudhm, so, 32 bit is still the best bet so far, you think.09:40
freddyi just orderer 209:40
yuachtMihai_, hmm, wait09:40
freddylol09:40
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peterretiefeyequeue, also thansk09:40
freddyeyequeue, you are a developer?09:40
peterretief:)09:40
Hoxzerhey, plz?09:40
ilucivhas any-one used dvb-utils much09:40
eyequeuefreddy:  yeah really, i'ev only done maybe 50 here (north america) and that was combined linux and bsds09:40
eyequeuepeterretief:  np09:40
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eyequeuefreddy: no, just another user :)09:41
freddyoh hehe09:41
Tomcat__Juhaz: Is nobody here understanding what I'm saying? I bought a CPU that has technology 5 years younger than the last CPU... I know Moore's law doesn't really apply anymore, but shouldn't the technology make the CPU more than twice as fast?09:41
HrdwrBoBTomcat__: it's an invalid comparison09:41
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HrdwrBoBbecause you didn't buy the same level of CPU09:41
Hoxzerhow do I unactive and active eth0?09:41
Tomcat__Maybe yes.09:41
Hoxzerin console09:41
nickrudso, to keep on the cutting edge (not bleeding) 32bit on 64bit is still the most productive, then09:41
HrdwrBoBfive years ago a 1.4ghz cpu was not bottom of the range09:41
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eyequeueHoxzer:  sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth009:42
unomeare you expecting 64 to be fast with 32 based apps? AMD 64 running at 1.8 (old athlonxp 2100+) owns an Intel chip running at 3ghz09:42
JuhazTomcat__, it's not like that 3000+ was invented yesterday, it's two years old as well09:42
kolasnickrud: it didn't work09:42
Tomcat__Well, maybe. :) As I said, I have to do a good benchmark anyway... any suggestions?09:42
feugan3333Hi all. What is the correct file to set environment variables for all users of my system. Is it /etc/profile?09:42
MolochOwltomcat...not really...Gaming and Graphic Design/vidio editing are the only major segments driving the market for more speed.09:42
IceDC571freddy: do you play any m4a's from rhythmbox?09:42
freddyIceDC571, no i dont have, i just have mp3s09:42
bigfoot1what happens if you tell Xchat to "use a proxy server" (X-chat-->Server List-->Edit)?09:43
IceDC571freddy: good because m4a playback is really crappy09:43
freddyIceDC571, damn09:43
nickrudkolas yes.09:43
freddyIceDC571, you are just starting to try ipod on ubuntu?09:43
MolochOwlI have a 3000+64 too...i'm really happy with it09:43
pregoHoxzer, ifdown eth0 and ifup eth009:43
freddyi already have all my list and crap09:43
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IceDC571freddy: no, i've tried it for a couple weeks.. mp3 on ipod is the best you can get09:44
bigfoot1Hey everyone. does everybody here make use of internet technology and make free phone calls over the net? If so, what would you recommend?09:44
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GURTskype09:44
nickrudMy thinking was for a single user, I'm not sure how to make a partition show up on the gnome-desktop for every user on a box09:44
pregoHoxzer, also, the high end command: ifconfig ..... but lots of details there...09:44
freddyand jesus, i found an awesome tutorial to make a flash card to sync with an specifyc directory...09:44
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eyequeuebigfoot1:  i don't myself, but i'd recommend the h323 protocol (apt-cache search h323)09:44
IceDC571bigfoot1: do you mean calling from the computer or VOIP?09:44
freddyIceDC571, oh you mean the m4a playback ON the ipod is crappy?09:45
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freddyi thought you meant in linux.09:45
kolasnickrud: do you know another solution ?09:45
IceDC571freddy: yes using rhythmbox to play m4a's on the ipod09:45
bigfoot1IceDC571, what's the difference? I have only a computer. I don't have any other special gadgets, if that's what you mean.09:45
nickrudkolas no.09:45
freddyah ok09:45
IceDC571bigfoot1: ohh.. have you heard of skype?09:45
freddyi want jennifer garner on my bed :(09:46
pregobigfoot1, skype deserves a try.09:46
IceDC571freddy: its just a sync problem.. its pauses at random times but if you play m4a's on the computer its fine09:46
IceDC571freddy: lol too bad she's married09:46
ilucivbigfoot: www.voip-info.org/ and take your pick :)09:46
nickrudkolas gnome (as I use it, and as ubuntu defines it in 5.04) is not built for easy use by multiple users on one machine.09:46
IceDC571freddy: wait it dont matter if shes married, go get her!09:46
freddyIceDC571, hahaha09:47
pregoIceDC571, I don't see the how to sync so she comes to ones bed09:47
freddyIceDC571, so the playback on the computer is just fine09:47
nickrudkolas and I hope to be contradicted ;)09:47
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IceDC571freddy: yep, its just a new ipod bug they could sqaush in the next few months09:47
IceDC571and i was like, maybe i need to enable DMA on my ipod!! but then you cant enable dma on usb devices, can you?09:48
u-sunhi all09:48
freddynop from what i know of09:48
bigfoot1iluciv, i don't want to buy any other gadgets.09:49
u-suni am trying to run 'pd' and i getthese errors09:49
IceDC571bigfoot1: yeah.. have you heard of skype?09:49
bigfoot1iluciv, IceDC571: When we say "voip" do we mean buying special gadgets?09:49
u-sunLSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory09:49
u-sunSegmentation fault09:49
u-sunu1sun@u-sun:~$ pd_gui: pd process exited09:49
u-sunhow do i fix this?09:49
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ilucivbigfoot1 :well all you need is microphone and speakers for any of it09:50
IceDC571bigfoot1: lets drop VOIP since it requires special gadgets.. now i see what you want09:50
freddyTHE FRICKING SKYPE09:50
kolasHow to allow an ext3 partition to be mounted like an USB memory, or like a CD ?09:50
freddypay attention!!09:50
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ilucivyeah skypes ok09:50
poningruI had question about canonical how does it provide funds? leach off of shuttleworth? or Support for Ubuntu?09:50
mihai_help. the pc crashes when I try to mount a fat32 partition09:50
bigfoot1iluciv, for any voip solution, all you need are a mic and speakers?09:50
poningruerr generate funds would be better word09:50
eyequeuebigfoot1:  gnomemeeting uses an open protocol, mand there's skype which was mentioned that is proprietary09:50
bigfoot1IceDC571, please confirm: all you need for any VOIP solution is mic and speakers?09:51
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internatsurely someone knows a good howto for installing ur soundcard.. cause frigsg me whhy mine isnt working09:51
ilucivwell maybe not every single one but many  thats all they require sure09:51
poningrubigfoot1: yes09:51
eyequeuebigfoot1:  headphones are wise to prevent feedback09:51
bigfoot1eyequeue, but gnomemeeting needs both parties to be using gnomemeeting right?09:51
ilucivinternat: what type is it09:51
poningrubigfoot1: no09:51
pregobigfoot1, note that you may only call freely to other computers09:51
poningruany client using H.323 is fine09:52
internatcreative live 5.1 sb live, emu10k1x09:52
freddyinternat, chipset09:52
poningruso anyone had an answer to my question09:52
bigfoot1my friend is using a windows pc. what does he need for me and him to call each other on the internet?09:52
nickrudponingru I read once that canonical intends to make money teaching people to provide support for ubuntu installations, small and large.09:52
bigfoot1what software should he get?09:52
internatfreddy: creative live 5.1 sb live, emu10k1x09:52
Hoxzerllllll09:52
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freddyO_o09:53
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eyequeuebigfoot1:  well, no, it does require both parties to be using the same protocol though.  i'm told there's some other *meeting app available for those stuck on an ms platform though, for example09:53
poningrunetmeeting should do fine iirc09:53
internatsuggestionos? i would have thought ubuntu would have detected it on startup and install.. but no it didnt09:53
pregobigfoot1, try skype, runs in win, linux, OS-X and is pretty easy to use09:53
poningruthese answers are on there faq bigfoot109:53
bigfoot1iluciv, and many of these voip solutions are free?09:53
eyequeuebigfoot1:  he would need that other *meeting app, and a headset and net connection09:53
poningruprego: please dont recomend skype its not oss09:54
nickrudI'd love to see a business plan09:54
eyequeuebigfoot1:  yeah, netmeeting it was09:54
ilucivbigfoot1: go skype its a no brainer to install go to www.ubuntuguide.org09:54
poningruwhen other oss things exist09:54
pregoponingru, heh, he is goint to talk to a non oss btw.09:54
ilucivthe voip protocol is free09:54
IceDC571well skype has its own support, which is free.. i dont see why we shouldn't mention it09:54
poningruiluciv: the skype protocol is not09:54
poningruit is proprietry09:54
internatiluciv: any suggestions?09:54
ilucivskype out is not09:54
eyequeueIceDC571:  not free, it is just not money09:54
bigfoot1poningru, which faq?09:54
poningruthe gnomemeeting faq09:55
poningruhold on let me link you to it09:55
freddyskype is free09:55
IceDC571i hate that skype for linux was built on Qt09:55
eyequeueIceDC571:  free means freedom in this channel09:55
IceDC571eyequeue: okay, i'll keep that in mind, thank you09:55
poningruhttp://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=009:55
pregoIceDC571, use plastik theme in QT and clearlooks in GTk...09:55
poningrubigfoot1: did you catch that09:55
eyequeueIceDC571:  i hope i said that friendly-ly :)09:55
poningrunickrud: are they not doing support themselves?09:56
freddyi still dont get the skype issue09:56
poningrufreddy: skype is not free as in freedom09:56
internatskype is good.. i dont midn it, i use it a bit09:56
bigfoot1eyequeue, yes, for me free means no money necessary. 8-)09:56
IceDC571is the US free as in freedom? lol09:56
eyequeuefreddy:  capsule summary: they use closed protocols, so no open source apps can be written to interface with them09:56
freddylol09:56
ilucivinternat: whats your dmesg say09:57
bigfoot1poningru, thanks for the faq link09:57
poningrunp09:57
freddygotcha09:57
IceDC571eyequeue: yeah i see what your saying, they dont give the source code out too09:57
eyequeuefreddy:  today they charge for "skype out" but nothing prevents them from charging for everything some day, if they get enough users09:57
nickrudponingru, well, I get plenty of support myself, already. Just how they get my money, well, I guess I'll have to donate09:57
IceDC571after all its from the users of kazaa, so beware! lol09:57
IceDC571makers*09:57
Tomcat__!09:58
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Tomcat__09:58
internatnothing at all09:58
poningruthe thing is our donations go to bounty not to the company09:58
internatabout the soundcard that is09:58
poningruthe company does not take donations supposedly09:58
nickrudponingru really? I find that rather pleasing09:58
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poningruI know right09:58
nickruda very pleasing idea09:58
poningruI have never felt this way about a corp.09:58
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MolochOwlgrrr is there a command I can just enter in the terminal (i didn't install a GUI) to stop the damn that from beeping everytime I hit the end of a line?09:58
bigfoot1actually, i do have skype installed.09:58
bigfoot1it's working fine.09:59
poningruI wished I could help canonical someway09:59
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ilucivinternat: hangone I'm having a look its odd cause its should be a well supported card09:59
poningruunfotunately I am no where near Mann09:59
bigfoot1but i was looking for an alternative. ONe that can at least includes an answering machine feature.09:59
internatthats what i thought, but it aint working :S09:59
hondjeFor the record, I hate reading latex docs09:59
internatmodprobe loads the drivers etc, but the rest shits itself09:59
poningrubigfoot1: go to sourceforge and search for 'voip'09:59
hondjeIf anyone cared at all09:59
bigfoot1And I don't want to pay skype any money for their answering machine feature.09:59
poningruthere are many clients that will pop up10:00
poningruthat have answering machine feature10:00
poningruand allow vid conf as well10:00
eyequeueponingru:  actually, even if they don't want your money, you can help.  help them accomplish what they set out to do, help people in #ubuntu :)  write documentattion, whatever :)10:00
ilucivhave you tried it in another box ie windows :S to see if is not a hardware error10:00
MolochOwlwill pulling the speaker wire damage the motherboard it i don't shut it off?10:00
IceDC571all i need is an open source VOIP company to replace my phone line and i'm set :)10:00
poningrueyequeue: unfortunately I am not technically savvy10:00
poningruI try10:00
poningrubut I am sometimes a hinderence10:01
poningrunot helpful10:01
eyequeueopenam - H.323 answering machine10:01
eyequeueopenmcu - H.323 conferencing server10:01
eyequeueboth ubuntu apps btw10:01
nickrudlol, we all learn from our egregious errors10:01
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krylsalut10:01
poningruwell you dont need a server since many voip clients now allow peer-to-peer10:01
poningrunot just peer-server-peer10:02
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krylqu'es qu'il existe pour ajouter supprimer des services au demarrage et  l'extinction du systeme ?10:02
poningrujust using H.32310:02
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IceDC571is evolution really free?10:02
internati get a message from artsmessage sayingg the device wasnt found.. dont know fi that helps or not10:02
poningruisnt it?10:02
freddydevelopment Status Alpha :(10:02
internatdefault cant be opened for playback, no such device10:02
krylops10:03
krylsorry10:03
hyphenatedI use skype for making voip calls. it's not open-source, but it works well enough for me10:03
nickrudwell, I don't think that gould patented it10:03
eyequeuekryl:  #ubuntu-fr ?10:03
jgotangcoevolution is free10:03
krylis there any tools to add or remove daemons from the boot sequence ?10:03
IceDC571yeah i sure hope it is10:03
freddyand the last version of voip was released in May 31 2002, shieet10:03
ilucivinternat: was teh card in when you installed ubuntu?10:03
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eyequeuekryl: yes, 'man update-rc.d' for details10:03
internatyep10:03
krylk10:04
ilucivInternat:have you tried mopobing in the modules in10:04
IceDC571libdvdcss is illegal in my country and i use it :)10:04
internatyep10:04
ilucivmodprobing10:04
nickrudkryl look at the files in rc2.d, and rcS.d. those are the boot sequence. you probaly don't want to change much10:04
internatmodprobe snd_emu10k1x etc.. nothing happening10:04
poningruif any proggramers here are not happy with evolution please consider contributing to calendar: irc.mozilla.org #calendar10:04
ilucivwhat happens when you do that10:04
internatthe drivers appear in lsmod but thats it10:04
IceDC571freddy: what you up to?10:04
eyequeueponingru:  sunbird?10:05
poningruyeah10:05
freddyIceDC571, checking voip10:05
freddyand the last version10:05
poningruwell not the standalone version10:05
internatam i mean tot restart something after modprobing for stuff to work, or?10:05
ilucivonly with 0 next to them or are they linked10:05
freddy2002 =/10:05
eyequeueponingru:  i keep hoping for > 0.2, heh10:05
poningrusunbird is the standalone version10:05
krylthere isn't any graphic tools ? :)10:05
poningruhehe it will come10:05
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freddyIceDC571, you?10:05
krylno pb about that it is a simple question update-rc.d seems to be sufficient10:05
poningruhe is one of the devs10:06
internat010:06
ilucivdoes anyone here use dvb-utils at all10:06
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eyequeuekryl:  i don't know of gui, but there may be something.  never looked further than what worked here, heh10:06
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IceDC571freddy: checking gnomemeeting hah..10:07
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IceDC571gnome meeting can make pc to phone calls? is it free?10:07
jinohi all...10:07
internathow do i make something link to it?10:07
freddyIceDC571, lol10:07
eyequeuegnomemeeting is free10:07
ilucivinternat: man I don't know you must be missing a module10:07
freddycan i make free phone calls with gnomemeeting?10:08
nickrudKyral rcconf, sysvconfig and sysv-rc-conf, but they're all ncuurses, not really gui10:08
jinoi have ordered  a few ubuntu cds from support site..but it has never come..10:08
internatbut i just did the install today, from an image i downloaded today..10:08
eyequeuegnomemeeting (1)     - H.323 Videoconferencing for UN*X10:08
MolochOwlwhat do you add to a command to make the help/info file pause while scrolling?10:08
jinoany idea?10:08
Amaranthyou cna't make free phone calls with anything10:08
IceDC571jino: you have to wait a few months, they come really10:08
freddyAmaranth, lol10:08
IceDC571haha Amaranth10:08
Amaranthyou can talk to other computer users with skype and gnomemeeting (not compatible with each other)10:08
ilucivinternat: have you read the Ubuntu forums at all10:08
internati dont know what modules i could be possibly missing its all installed10:08
freddywell...pretend :P10:09
internatyeah i went looking, and read a few things but nothing that helped10:09
jinoIceDC571, ist ? am waiting for the last couple of months.10:09
eyequeueAmaranth:  [color]  boxes are not discussed here, heh10:09
cafuegoBah. 'ytalk' is all you need.10:09
IceDC571jino: it came 3-4 months for me10:09
Amaranthblue boxes?10:09
Amaranththose haven't worked in a _long_ time10:09
u-suni have problems installing pd10:09
u-suncan you let me know how i can do this10:09
ilucivyou got onboard sound??10:10
freddyoh i remember reading about the boxes a lot10:10
freddynever understood anything10:10
freddyphreak crack hack...bah...10:10
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benplaut\quit "goodnight everyone"10:10
eyequeueAmaranth:  mostly joking, but i've lived is some areas with pathetic switches (21k max connections with v32 at both ends)10:10
benplautdarn, did it again10:11
freddyprostitutes..linux....food..sleep...enough for me :D10:11
IceDC571what the hell is a surname?10:11
freddylastname IceDC57110:11
jinodoes ubuntu work well with hp laptops..?10:11
IceDC571oh.. thank you freddy..10:11
internatnope10:11
eyequeueAmaranth: made me wonder if drapers 2600 whistle would work, heh10:11
krylI'm searching if there is a command to show status of a daemon in the boot with update-rc.d I dont see anything in the man about that thing10:11
internatwell i had onboard sound, its disabled.. and has been for months10:11
Amaranthhehe10:11
freddyIceDC571, like my surname is Rivero Bravo...and my name is Freddy Daniel10:12
ilucivinternat:have a quick look at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix10:12
IceDC571freddy: oookay lol10:12
freddyhaha10:12
cafuegofreddy: Not drag queen name. Family name.10:13
freddydoes ubuntu work well with toshiba laptops?10:13
freddylmfao10:13
freddythats my real name you bast10:14
freddyhaha10:14
cafuegofreddy: Freddy Daniel Rivero bravo?10:14
cafuegoSheesh10:14
freddyyup10:14
freddyhaha10:14
cafuegoYour parents must do a lot of drugs ;-)10:14
freddyhaha10:14
poningrufreddy: yeah it works pretty well in my friends comp10:14
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nickrudKyral invoke-rc.d <thing> status, if it's implemented10:14
poningruerr toshiba lappy10:14
cafuegofreddy: Is your first name 'Freddy' or 'Freddy Daniel' ?10:14
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cafuego(See also: middle name)10:15
freddycafuego, Freddy10:15
ilucivinternat: then this guide in the forums should help if you use that driver I guess http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=SB+5.110:15
cafuegoEh-heh, if I pat the cat she burps10:15
freddycafuego, it sounds diferent down here in south america :D10:15
IceDC571gnomemeeting is making me pay to call to a phone!! so much for free as in freedom!! grr..10:15
cafuegofreddy: I'd hope so ;-)10:15
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freddy:P10:15
cafuegoSounds brazilian10:16
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cafuego(protugese)10:16
freddyhehe venezuelan10:16
nickrudheh, my 8 week old alley cat just bit me to get the meat10:16
freddybut reaaaally close10:16
IceDC571nickrud: a real cat? or like a girl?10:16
ilucivinternat: it would be funny if you just had to unmute the alsamix in terminal type sudo alsamixer10:16
nickruda cat, an alley cat :)10:16
IceDC571sudo alsamixer?? lol10:16
cafuegofreddy: Venezula is spanish speaking though, innit?10:16
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freddyyup10:17
IceDC571more like only typing alsamixer unless you want to change the root's mixer10:17
cafuegook, just checking :-)10:17
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ilucivIceDC571; ?10:17
IceDC571uhh.. nevermind i was talking about the cat10:17
IceDC571nickrud: do you have any pics of the cat?10:18
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freddyIceDC571, do we have to have tits and pussies to be able to talk to you? sheeeesss....10:18
u-sunANYOne know about PD?10:18
IceDC571freddy: no, you dont need a sex change to talk to me.. thank you10:18
nickrudyes, but, I don't have a scanner at the moment, gotta fit it into this houses budget.10:18
freddyHAHA10:18
IceDC571i love kitties!10:19
freddyIceDC571, what are you up to?10:19
thenukeI would like to change some sex with someone :I10:19
ilucivI had a problem with sound in kubuntu and an old gateway 2000 computer alsamix was muted did that and it worked for all users so umm ??10:19
nickrudbut, it's black, except for the 4 or 5 hairs on the chest that makes it not quite black10:19
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IceDC571freddy: i'm um... trying to find out why my gnome looks so ugly right now10:19
freddythenuke, lol10:19
freddyIceDC571, screenshawt?10:20
freddyi made mine look awesome with a tutorial in the forums10:20
poningruI had a suggestion for the root and gnome sudo thingy10:20
freddymostly the fonts10:20
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poningruwhy not change the color of the window when you switch to sudo10:20
poningruerr root10:20
jinoIceDC571, does ubuntu work well wid a laptop , an hp make..?10:21
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poningrujino: yes it does10:21
poningruusing compaq right now10:21
poningruworks very well10:21
pregoponingru, latest gnome releases tend to shade the screen except for the password window.10:21
poningruoh wow10:21
poningrudid not know that10:21
freddyjino, toshiba satellite here..works perfect.10:21
pregoponingru, see foresight linux screenshots10:22
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eyequeueponingru:  applications > system tools > root terminal10:22
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pregoponingru, http://www.foresightlinux.com/screenshots/index.php?image=sudo_prompt.png10:23
eyequeueponingru:  edit > current profile > colors ... i set it to red on black, and it stays that way10:23
chezcan someone PLEASE help me out with my pen drive I can't write to it as or chmod it despite being the owner and the permissions being 700 - someone said I way have to change my hotplug settings - no idea how to do that10:23
IceDC571freddy: http://home.comcast.net/~sexycatsinhats/Screenshot.png10:23
IceDC571freddy: i have ie and itunes :) lol10:24
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pregochez, check the thing has not a switch10:24
pregochez, a lock I mean...10:24
freddyIceDC571, damn! how?10:24
poningrusorry not running breezy yet10:24
freddyIceDC571, and i see you made the fonts tweaking too10:25
ilucivdvb-utils anyone??10:25
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HoxzerCan somebody give me shell accounts for irssi for just one day?10:25
HoxzerI want to use Qnet10:26
thenuketry mirc :)10:26
thenukeor xchat10:26
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IceDC571why are we suggesting mirc?10:26
poningruuse xchat10:26
poningruno mirc10:26
poningrucrappy10:26
jinofreddy , the laptop has only 256 mb ram , will that suit..?10:27
HoxzerThenuke: god damnit! :D10:27
HoxzerI cant from herer10:27
chezprego: it does have a lock - but when the lock is on it on't let me make any changes to the pendrive. When the lock is off I can drag stuff into the drive and add documents etc but the next time I unplug/plug it in the things I added won't be there10:27
nickrudkittens do love chicken10:27
IceDC571freddy: um, havent you heard of wine?10:27
HoxzerMy fucking mom shutdown my shell server10:27
IceDC571freddy: lets see a ss of yours10:27
Hoxzerand she dunno how to restart it?10:27
freddyjino, the toshiba here is only 25610:27
Hoxzerso fucking idiot10:27
HoxzerI fucking hate her10:27
pregochez, are you unmounting the volume or just taking it off??????10:27
Hoxzeraargh10:27
Hoxzerfuck fuck10:27
IceDC571Hoxzer: um... alrighty then10:27
chezprego: just pulling the pen drive out - thought it would unmount automatically10:28
jinookie10:28
hyphenatedchez: you're just pulling it out willy-nilly aren't you. you need to unmount it10:28
pregochez, no!10:28
Hoxzerand I lost my lunch time >_<'10:28
pregochez, unless you specify proper options at mounting10:28
hyphenatedit does unmount automagically but it doesn't sync the data! :-)10:28
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poningruchez: dear god no10:28
freddyIceDC571, http://www.deviantart.com/view/20220805/10:28
chezprego: well that lame :)10:28
Hoxzergod damnit she is fucking idiot10:28
pregochez, if you add a file and remove it quickly, the OS does nothing...10:28
jsgotangcohey no cursing10:28
jinofreddy , how do i upgrade it, its under warranty, so i cant do it on my own..10:29
eyequeuesync (8)             - synchronize data on disk with memory10:29
eyequeuesync (1)             - flush filesystem buffers10:29
eyequeuesync (3posix)        - schedule file system updates10:29
eyequeuesync (2)             - commit buffer cache to disk10:29
HoxzerShe is going to give me 30e for this for sure10:29
eyequeueoops. sorry10:29
chezprego: I fugure it may be some thing like that10:29
Hoxzerif not im going to steal it10:29
pregochez, please note that you have the "unmount volume" at the contextual menu on the device icon at the desktop10:29
Hoxzerbecouse I can10:29
Hoxzer't connect to qnet10:29
Hoxzervia webchat10:29
Hoxzerwich realy sucks10:29
IceDC571freddy: ooo.. nice theme, i see you use streamtuner too10:29
pregochez, same applies to old disc drives...10:30
freddystreamtuner is awesome10:30
IceDC571i was wondering why xmms wont play my stations10:30
internatiluciv sorry went afk, umm alsamixer wont start, says funtion blah failed for default: no such device10:30
IceDC571like if i add a location it does nothing without streamtuner10:30
freddyIceDC571, look at the convo in the irssi screen10:30
freddylol10:30
chezprego: so computer > usbdsk> right clcik unmount voume10:30
chezprego: right?10:31
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pregochez, don't you see a desktop icon for the usb disk?10:31
IceDC571freddy: lol! why are you in a mandrake chat?10:31
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IceDC571freddy: what do you talk about dependencies all day there?10:31
WMCoolmonanyone here have experience getting hl2 to work in ubuntu?10:31
chezprego: yeah - I can just unm0ount it there can't I10:31
IceDC571freddy: me and my snowboard are in the pic too!! :)10:31
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pregochez, I do that from the desktop icon, but perhaps you can do it elsewhere10:32
ptlohmm...given a package name, is there an easy way to get the list of _all_ packages it depends on, directly and indirectly?10:32
freddyIceDC571, i used mandrake for too many years, and i got out from linux cause i started working with animation and motion graphics....10:32
freddyand now im back...10:32
freddy:D10:32
pregochez, you may need to close any terminals which are "inside" the pendrive and probably any nautilus windows...10:32
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bigfoot1cafuego, what's ytalk?10:32
freddyIceDC571, pretty much....urpmi ubuntu LOL10:32
IceDC571freddy: im surprised they dont know what ubuntu is when its the #1 distro on distrowatch10:32
poningruI had a suggestion for umount actually10:33
chezprego: cheers working fine now10:33
prego:-))10:33
zoexhai...10:33
poningruif the device is busy why not give a prompt to send a kill to the device10:33
poningruerr process10:33
freddyIceDC571, do you have the link to distrowatch where it says that?10:33
IceDC571www.distrowatch.com , eh?10:34
poningrufreddy: go to distrowatch.com10:34
freddyshiat10:34
freddyi saw it10:34
zoexi don't10:34
IceDC571hey whats mandriva doing at #2? lol.. freddy did you do that?10:34
freddywell but mandriva is the 2nd one..so they are not that lost10:34
freddylol10:34
poningrulook at the hits per day10:34
poningruHPD10:34
freddyIceDC571, hahaha10:35
poningruwe are at 248410:35
freddywait a sex whats ubuntu colony?10:36
freddyerr not a sex10:36
freddya sec10:36
freddyjesus10:36
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poningrufreudian slip?10:37
pregofreddy, you are still thinking with that girl....10:37
freddyhaha10:37
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bigfoot1i like skype but it doesn't have answering machine capabilites. What do you guys recommend?10:38
freddybuy it to get the answering machine10:39
poningruno10:39
poningrugnome meeting10:39
freddyok sleep time really bad10:39
freddyprego, nite10:39
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freddyponingru, nite10:40
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IceDC571poningru: hmm.. im trying to look for answering machine or voicemail on gnomemeeting but i dont seem to find it10:40
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IceDC571freddy: nite!10:40
pregofreddy, dulces sueos10:40
freddyIceDC571, nice talking to you man, nite nite...see you around10:40
MolochOwlhave the computer record it...there must be several different ways that could be accomplished10:40
freddyprego, you too10:40
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poningrunight10:40
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pregoprego, still in the morning here in spain...10:40
freddyIceDC571, your always around here?10:40
pregofreddy, i mean...10:40
IceDC571freddy: yes, sadly10:40
freddyIceDC571, haha10:40
freddyprego, morning?10:41
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freddyspain?10:41
freddynice10:41
freddyi would love to go to spain10:41
ufzobookhellas all. i have a question. under gentoo, when i emerge a software, the sources will be saved in a directory. and i can delete them to save disk space.under ubuntu they are saved also, elswhere. but where ;) ?10:41
freddyok, i cant type anymore10:41
Whistlerhow do i run *run files?10:41
freddyzzZzzZz10:41
ufzobookWhistler, what files ?10:41
poningruhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Open+Source+VOIP+Software10:41
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WMCoolmonhrm, so nobody's tried out half-life 2 with cedega...?10:42
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jonowhile I am working today I am gonna backup my CDs - I am using cdparanoia - does anyone know if the paranoia is important or if ripping them without it is fine?10:42
hairyhobbitcedega works well in ubuntu?10:43
pregojono, depends strongly on your hardware10:43
parabolizehairyhobbit, yes10:43
pregojono, however if your hardware is so OK, cdparanoia is almost as fast as direct extraction, IMHO10:44
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IceDC571cedega.. free as in freedom?10:44
pregojono, when you extract audio, do you get "------" or "      "?10:44
parabolizeIceDC571, no :(10:44
hairyhobbitparabolize, cedega cvs?10:44
jonoprego, I a using grip to do this10:45
WMCoolmonhairyhobbit: in my experience, no10:45
parabolizedidn't try cvs10:45
WMCoolmoni have yet to get homeworld, homeworld cataclysm, starcraft, or half-life 2 working10:45
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pregojono, do a probe: cdparanoia -B 110:45
jonoprego, will grip chuck an error if cdparanoia does not like something?10:45
bigfoot1why is it that Phone Calling over the internet isn't like email? With email, you can email to anyone in the world. The recipient of the email doesn't have to be on the same ISP as you or use the same software. BUt with Phonecalling over the internet, you must use the same software or same technology. so a skype user can only communicate with another skyper, for example. Will this mess be sorted out in the future?10:46
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pregojono, it will show a progress bar10:46
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pregojono, if you get a blank progress bar, your hardware should be fine enough10:46
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bigfoot1WHet I say "Phone Calling over the internet", I mean one PC user to another.10:46
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jonoprego, everything seems to be ripping fine10:46
WhoYahi all10:46
hairyhobbitWMCoolmon, I'm very sad to hear about that, I was so hoping to try Cedega cvs with Ubuntu. Have you tried Vice City or any of the Warcraft or Age of Empires games?10:47
pregojono, and the progress bar has no kind of signs except for spaces10:47
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jonoprego, ok cheers10:47
pregojono, note however that damaged CDs would require cdparanoia nevertheless.10:48
gilvhow to register a nick ?10:48
jinohow can i watch a web cam in gaim?10:48
inemojino: check out gaim +vv10:48
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gilvit's possible to use a webcam with gaim ?10:49
WMCoolmonhairy: no; i've heard that people have been able to get WoW running, though10:49
pregojono, I always use cdparanoia, anyway. I'm trully paranoic about sound quality10:50
pregoparanoid10:50
jonoprego, good way to go! :)10:50
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IceDC571ooo.. this looks interesting http://www.pcbsd.org/10:52
IceDC571except the kde part..10:52
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bigfoot1is there any piece of software available that would be an answering machine for skype ? If no, is there something other than skype that has "answering machine" capabilites?10:52
hairyhobbitWMCoolmon, I will try some tests and see how many games I can run with it10:52
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hintswenhey10:54
WMCoolmonhairyhobbit: gl10:54
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hintswencan i install Ubuntu from the install cd(creating another partition) without loosing any data?10:54
hairyhobbitbigfoot1, tell people to record a sound file and e-mail it to you?10:55
pregohintswen, sure, if really you know what you are doing.10:55
bigfoot1hairyhobbit, i guess you can do that. i just wanted an easier way.10:55
hintswendam10:55
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hintswenwhat if i don't have a clue what i'm doing?10:55
pregohintswen, backup, backup, backup10:55
hintswenwhat if i can't lol10:56
hintswen2 much stuff10:56
pregohintswen, critical step is partitioning IMHO10:56
pregohintswen, you have available partitions?10:56
bigfoot1anybody use hotrecorder with skype?10:57
hintswenno10:57
jinoinemo , where do the link appear for viewing ca?10:57
hintsweni only have my windows partition10:58
inemojino: dunno sorry, never used it.10:58
pregohintswen, from ubuntu installer you cannot shrink current partitions to make place to another one (AFAIK)10:58
inemoi'm on a mac so I use mercury messenger (which might be available for linux) or boot into XP and run msn7 jino10:58
hintswenok10:58
jinookie10:58
jinothanks a lot10:58
hintswenso if i backed up...10:58
bigfoot1http://www.pamela-systems.de/ makes "Pamela" an add-on to Skype that acts as an answering machine. Unfortuanately it's onyl for winndows. ANbody know of a linux solution?10:59
hintsweni'd have to make m2 partitions then install10:59
hintswenthen restore my backup?10:59
pregohintswen, there are software over there to do that kind of things, but you may take into account that noone warrants you10:59
hairyhobbitprego, yes you can10:59
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pregohairyhobbit, I didn't know, thanks for the point10:59
pregohintswen, the idea is to backup (just in case something comes wrong), then defrag your windows partition, resize the partition using tool such partition magic or the one in the ubuntu install disk (as hairyhobbit says),11:00
hintswendam11:01
pregohintswen, then, since there is now space left, put there two partitions at least (one for swap and another for the system), from the ubuntu installer11:01
hintswendefrag only taked about 2 years...11:01
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pregohintswen, I know.11:01
Whistleri have 16gb of unpartitioned space can i join this space to my windows partition?11:02
pregohintswen, you have other more costly ways: to buy a new hard drive11:02
poningrubigfoot1: http://www.kevinelliott.net/asterisk/AVC/about.php11:02
poningruhttp://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml11:02
hintswenif i added a second hard-drive i wouldn't ahve to partition or anything... yeah?11:02
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johanbrJust wondering if the nautilus audio preview is working for anyone? I'm running Breezy now, but I don't recall ever having it working on anything (Hoary, Warty, Debian Sarge, ...).11:03
pregohintswen, you would install ubuntu on the second hard-drive which you can partition at your glance11:03
bigfoot1poningru, does Asterisk work with Skype?11:03
hintswenk so how i check how big my hard drive is(using Ubuntu)11:03
pregohintswen, you might also create a windows partition there for backup purposes11:03
poningruhttp://www.speakfreely.org/11:03
poningrubigfoot1: almost nothing works with skype since the protocol is closed11:03
bigfoot18-)11:03
pregohintswen, make also in mind that if the computer is quite old it wont accept large hard drives...11:03
bigfoot1can't you reverse engineer skype?11:03
poningruyou can but no one is willing to11:04
hintswenwell a new computer will accept a old hard drive?11:04
poningrusince there are many open protocols that do what it does pretty well11:04
hintswencause old computer has ubuntu on it... thinking of talking that hard drive11:04
poningruhintswen: how old is the old computer11:04
hintswenverry old11:05
poningruand is it x86?11:05
hintswen5+years11:05
poningrunot that old11:05
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bigfoot1poningru, i see11:05
poningru5 years is not very old11:05
hintswenlol k well new computer could use that hard drive?11:05
poningruyeah probably11:05
hintswenmight actually just get a new external hard drive...11:05
poningruhintswen: nah inernals are so much cheaper11:06
hintswenthat'd work right? then i could just plug it in to any computer and run ubuntu?11:06
bigfoot1so is there a solution for this minor problem: A skype-like software that will allow me to  communicate with Windows users AND can act as an answering machine, too.11:06
hintswenyeah but i might move it around a bit11:06
pregohintswen, not really11:06
hintswendam lol11:06
pregohintswen, hardware is detected during install....11:06
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hintswenthat's y my mouse didn't work? lol11:07
pregoprobably11:07
hintswenworking now... got something to do with me putting windows cd in?11:07
hintswencause it hasn't been wotking11:07
hintswenwas bout to re-install windows but decided not to11:07
hintswennow mouse works11:07
prego????11:08
MolochOwlyeah...detection during install is pretty lucky unless your using older parts.11:08
hintswenserial mouse lol11:08
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hintswenVERRY old11:08
mofatumm can help me get ubuntu to play mp3's and divx?11:09
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poningrubigfoot1: ask your friend to use an open protocol, open source client11:09
poningrumofat: ubuntuguide.org11:09
bigfoot1poningru, like what?11:10
poningruhttp://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml11:10
poningrulook through there11:10
poningruthere are many11:10
MolochOwlthat guide really is a godsend..hard to believe it's "unofficial"11:11
hintswenmaybe i just take this comnputer in to store with Ubuntu cd... ask them to put in new hard drive and install ubuntu on it...11:11
hintswencomputer*11:11
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hairyhobbitIt appears Yahoo! has added some type of voice communication to their software, but I know nothing more than a news item I read about it. Probably Windows only I'd guess.11:11
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hintswenreckon they would? lol11:12
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MolochOwlyour not in canada eh hintswen,,,I'd love to do that...and not even rip you off quite as bad11:12
hintswenlol11:12
poningruhintswen: where in aus do you live?11:12
hintswenmelbourne11:12
poningruhmm hold on11:12
hintswenk11:12
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hintswenmy time here is limited so be quick...11:13
poningruhow much would you be willing to pay for that?11:13
hintswento get it installed? nothing for hard drive dunno11:13
hintswenmight just get a new pc lol11:13
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hairyhobbithintswen, are you sure they wouldn't try to install Lindows instead?11:13
lukus001Somone help i can get my audio to work!11:14
lukus001cant*11:14
hintswencorse they wouldn't11:14
poningrucause I know a couple of unemployed people in melbourne11:14
poningruwho will be more than happy to help you out11:14
MolochOwli'd charge 30/40 for the drive and 50 for the OS...that's cheap11:14
poningrubut I would do it myself11:14
poningruresearch it and then open up your comp11:14
poningruand install your hd11:14
hintswenwth i'd buy a new computer and install it on this 1(after i backup)11:14
hairyhobbithintswen, most employees I've discovered at computer stores would cry like baby Jesus if they were confronted with a Linux install without a pretty GUI.11:14
reissleinanybody got a lexmark z600 usb printer working in here?11:15
hintswenlol11:15
hintswenubuntu install was actually alot easyer than i thought it would have been11:15
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poningrulukus001: whats the prob?11:15
hintswenpeople give linux a bad name11:15
genbiewas IRC down?11:15
ilucivdvb-utils anyone used them much??11:15
hintsweni thought i'd be un-installing linux as soon as i saw it11:16
bigfoot1poningru, so if my friend gets an open-protocol, open source client software on his Windows pc, we therefore have voicemail capabilities?11:16
MolochOwldon't even need research...the drive will come set as master and you just have to plug it in...and nothing can be set in backwards...it's idiot proof11:16
lukus001poningru: i've got a asus a8n board with inbuilt sound, ive ogt a digital /optical cable pluged in but i cant get any sound11:16
hintswenanyway cyaz...11:16
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poningrubigfoot1: yes but make sure it is using the same protocol as what you choose11:16
bigfoot1poningru, so let's say i'm using gnomemeeting and my Windows friend is using netmeeting. how do we go about using the digital "answering machine"?11:17
bigfoot1poningru, how came skype wasn't in the list at http://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml?11:18
poningrubigfoot1: because skype isnt exactly open protocol11:18
reissleinhow comes that some applications don't register themselves in gnome panel ? f.ex. games like ketm or tuxracer ?11:19
bigfoot1poningru, how about the answering machine question? 8-)11:19
poningruoh gnome meeting apperantly doesn support it, my mistake11:19
poningruuse another one of the many clients availble11:20
poningrudude do some research11:20
poningrusearch around11:20
Amaranthnothing but skype can work with skype11:20
poningrulukus001: sorry dude I have no clue11:20
lukus001poningru: ok np11:20
poningrumofat: please dont pm me11:20
poningrujust say it in the channel that is ontopic11:21
Amaranthand skype isn't real VOIP, it doesn't support SIP11:21
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bigfoot1Amaranth, so real VOIP is defined as anything that supports SIP technology?11:21
Amaranthseems to be, yes11:21
poningrumofat: http://www.tuxfiles.org/11:21
mjrwell that's taking it too far; Skype clearly is VOIP, just evil and proprietary and in the way of proper open protocols11:21
poningruyeah what mjr said11:22
mjrand also in the way of the standardization that bigfoot1 seemed to want earlier :)11:22
poningrudefinition of voip is voice over IP11:22
poningruthere are many protocol for that11:22
poningruprotocols*11:22
Amaranthhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol11:22
AmaranthThere are two protocols that are open.11:23
AmaranthAnd afaik only one that is closed (Skype).11:23
hairyhobbitmjr, Skype is evil because it is proprietary? So does this mean you use open source video drivers?11:23
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mjrhairyhobbit, in fact I do, on my home and laptop computers11:23
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Amaranthwith full 3D acceleration11:23
bigfoot1Amaranth, so the 2 open protocols are SIP and h.3423 (or something like that), right?11:23
AmaranthH.32311:24
poningrumjr: so do I11:24
mjr(work box doesn't, but that's the CS department official Linux for you)11:24
Amaranthwhich is what netmeeting and gnomemeeting use11:24
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poningrubigfoot1: there are others that are open too11:24
spafbnerfAmaranth, hehe, with what video card? :p11:24
cafuegoSurely NetMeeting doesn't use an OPEN protocol?11:24
Amaranth"Challengers to H.323 are SIP, a standard from the IETF and the new Skype protocol. All these are used in Voice over IP (VoIP, Internet Telephony, or IP Telephony)."11:25
bigfoot1i don't care whether something is open or closed, as long as it's free and i can use it? Should i care?11:25
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Amaranthspafbnerf: Radeon 700011:25
poningrucafuego: yes it does11:25
mjrbigfoot1, you should, if you want what you said earlier11:25
Amaranthspafbnerf: Hoping to get a 9200 soon.11:25
londonboi2k3Morning guys, I need to reboot my PC at home after my upgrade, I need it to mail me the new IP address I know i can use ifconfig | mail myemail@address.com but where do i need to put a script and how would it be formed? Thanks11:25
spafbnerfok.... the opensource drivers for those r rly ne good?11:25
mjrbigfoot1, you know, about this mess being sorted out11:25
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spafbnerfcz i know the proprietrary ATI drivers 2 b absolutely horrid :p11:25
Amaranthspafbnerf: The open source drivers for Radeon 7000-9250 are excellent11:26
mjrskype is a big part of that mess11:26
bigfoot1if i want to be rich, then I should make a closed thing right? If I'm the software creator, then the path to riches is via the " closed" path, right?11:26
Amaranthspafbnerf: And are a part of xorg so Ubuntu sets it all up for you automagically.11:26
bigfoot1mjr, gotcha.11:26
Hoxzer:D I still hate my mom11:26
Amaranthbigfoot1: Sure, but no one is going to get rich off software anymore.11:26
Amaranthbigfoot1: Not new comers, anyway.11:26
spafbnerfhmm, well i doubt the opensourceys know how to work the hardware so well as ATI :)11:26
Hoxzershe shutdown my shell server >_<11:26
Hoxzerim so pissed of11:26
bigfoot1for the masses, open is good. but for the moneymaking creator, it's the opposite, yes?11:26
Amaranthspafbnerf: Ha11:26
Hoxzerf11:26
londonboi2k3Any ideas guys :)11:27
Hoxzerand he could't restart it11:27
mjrspafbnerf, the oss drivers work well enough with my 9250 and 9000 mobility11:27
Hoxzer*she11:27
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Zaphodlo all..11:27
Amaranthspafbnerf: iirc the open source drivers use features on cards that the official ones don't11:27
spafbnerfwell enuff for 3d games etc?11:27
bigfoot1Amaranth, microsoft is rich. and that's just one example. am i wrong?11:27
Hoxzer:D gimme irssi for just one day so I can use irc in qnet11:27
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mjrI'm waiting on the r300.sourceforge.net project to produce something before upgrading to 9600 or something11:27
Amaranthbigfoot1: Not new comers, anyway.11:27
Jimbobbigfoot1: You're confusing creator with owner.11:27
spafbnerfAmaranth, lol, well i'm not shur wot to make of that ;D heheheh11:27
bigfoot1Amaranth, pardon me.11:27
bigfoot18-)11:27
ZaphodI need a bit of help.. where do I find a list of applications available for download for Ubuntu?11:27
mjrspafbnerf, maybe not new ones with such old cards, but I play NWN quite happily with them11:27
Amaranthspafbnerf: ATI makes/made shitty drivers.11:27
Nikkihi, this is slightly offtopic but I'm confused!11:28
Amaranthspafbnerf: They are better now, but if they don't even use all of the features on the card...11:28
bigfoot1i can't differentiate between creator and owner.11:28
mjr(yes, I care less about freedom when it comes to a single application than when it comes to a driver or protocol)11:28
NikkiI'v brought a laptop and I want to find out information about the hard disk, like its RPM11:28
poningruZaphod: you can use synaptic11:28
spafbnerfi wldnt know, never got them to work :p hehehe....11:28
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spafbnerfwell mayb the open drivers r using the wrong features? :o11:28
AmaranthZaphod: packages.ubuntu.com lets you search them11:28
spafbnerfwot is NWN?11:28
mjrspafbnerf, neverwinter nights11:28
AmaranthZaphod: There are thousands of packages available11:28
spafbnerfooooh *looks it up*11:29
Nikkibut I dont know how to go about it, PS I havent burnt Ubuntu yet so a windows program would be nice, I mean it shouldnt be that hard to find out specs about your HD should it!?11:29
poningruNikki: offtopic please go to a techcannel11:29
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AmaranthNikki: Perhaps the device manager tells you that?11:30
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Nikkinope it doesnt11:30
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ufzobookNikki, how about open it11:30
ufzobookand look at the label11:30
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hairyhobbitNikki, google gpick list of lists and you'll find a lot of links to free windows utilities11:31
MattiasHello people :) Anyone know how the support for ATI Radeon X800 XL PCI-e are in ubuntu?11:31
Plouf_hi is there a french ubuntu channel ?11:31
ivoksoh, we have a lady here11:31
mjr(mm, sip-supporting gnomemeeting is getting closer... :)11:31
ivoksor Nikki is trasvestit :)11:31
HoxzerMattias: what are you going to do with that powerful video card?11:31
Nikkiits a laptop, under warranty, cant open it :D11:31
poningruah11:32
MattiasHoxzer, Well, I want and all-round-PC so I bought this card :P11:32
hyphenatedNikki: any bootable live-cd should be suitable11:32
|grunt|Or nikki is a guys name11:32
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|grunt|anyone think about that?11:32
poningru#ubuntu-fr11:32
Nikkiyep downloaded live CD, just got to burn it11:33
poningruto Plouf_11:33
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Plouf_thank's poningru11:33
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bigfoot1i have popus disabled in fx but still get unwanted pages showing up. what's up?11:33
bigfoot1popus--> popups11:33
poningrubigfoot1: what kind of popups?11:34
poningrupopunders?11:34
bigfoot1maybe that?11:34
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bigfoot1maybe that.11:34
bigfoot1i don't know which it is.11:34
poningruok open up firefox11:34
bigfoot1okay.11:34
poningrutype in about:config11:34
bigfoot1it is open11:34
poningruand press enter11:34
HoxzerLinux should have better win emu's11:34
nikThanks a lot hairyhobbit :), your link helped11:34
hairyhobbitbigfoot1, install privoxy11:34
poningrubigfoot1: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007682.html11:34
poningrujust follow that11:35
nikC ya later, Thx again hairyhobbit11:35
bigfoot1okay, i pressed enter, now what?11:35
hairyhobbitHoxzer Windows should have better Linux emu11:35
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bigfoot1poningru,  i pressed enter, now what?11:35
poningrubigfoot1: sigh11:35
hairyhobbitnik, did you find that page?11:36
bigfoot1oh, you mean check out the page?11:36
bigfoot1okay.11:36
poningruyeah11:36
guidouilhello all, I need some help regarding the command rename, can someone help me ?11:36
bigfoot1just curious, did you really sigh?11:36
bigfoot18-)11:36
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poningrunah :)11:36
guidouilok, due to the lake of answers I will ask more clearly11:37
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guidouilI have many files named *foo* and i whant them this way *toto* can anyone throw me a bone here ?11:38
guidouilI have read the rename manual but it isn't very clear to me11:38
hairyhobbitguidouil, mv filenamedthis filenamedthat11:39
poningrufor multiple11:39
poningruhttp://www.debian-administration.org/articles/150/print11:39
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poningrubigfoot1: did everything work out ok?11:40
poningruabout the popups11:41
xterminusis there any way to change a processes's priority - nice?11:41
bigfoot1i'm still surveying which route i should take. the comments seem to say that adblock can take care of them.11:41
ufzobookkewl, there is a Enlightenment 17 live cd now. still testing version, but beter than installing this with ubuntu.11:41
guidouilthx poningru11:41
ufzobooksure xterminus.11:41
bigfoot1poningru, can you give me an example of a site that adblock doesn't block by default11:42
bigfoot1?11:42
bigfoot1not a site, i'm sorry, but a popup/popdown window11:42
xterminusufzobook, i've used nice to change the prio of a program when starting it, but i can't seem to figure out how to change the priority of a process allready running11:42
poningruadblock doesnt block anything by default11:42
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poningruxterminus: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/tutorials/processes.html11:42
poningrubigfoot1: what is your filter?11:43
ufzobookyou can change it wit a gui in gnome11:43
bigfoot1my filter, poningru ?11:43
ufzobookand also in the shell11:43
poningruyeah11:43
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bigfoot1how do i find out my filter?11:43
xterminusi killed gnome off, got to slow11:43
xterminusi have a process i need to keep running until it finishes though11:43
poningructrl+shift+p11:43
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poningrubigfoot1: what are you trying to do?11:44
thespiritoftalhi how can i open mp3 files in ubuntu?11:44
ufzobookxterminus, do you know top?11:44
xterminusyeah11:44
ufzobookthere you can change this11:44
bigfoot1poningru, block out popup/popdowns that Firefox doesn't stop, even when i have disabled popups in the options area11:44
ufzobookor you just use renice11:45
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ufzobookbut i think you already found out renice11:45
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xterminusyeah, thanks11:45
ufzobookin top, when you hit r, you can renice a process11:45
thespiritoftalnoone knows???11:45
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spafbnerfkill ubuntu!!!11:46
thespiritoftalcan someone plz help me how to run mp3 files in ubuntu? The music players doesnt support it11:46
ufzobookwww.ubuntuguide.org @ thespiritoftal11:46
poningrubigfoot1: did you follow that site?11:46
poningruhere I will help11:46
ufzobookyou will find there all you need for the first week using ubuntu i think11:47
schasithespiritoftal: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats iirc11:47
poningrubigfoot1: go to about:config11:47
poningruright click anywhere on that window11:47
bigfoot1poningru, yes, i'm still reading that webpage, particularly the comments section11:47
bigfoot18-)11:47
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poningruno need for the comments11:47
bigfoot1you are so helpful. why?11:47
bigfoot18-)11:47
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poningrujust do what that person says11:47
poningruwhat asa says to do11:48
hairyhobbitbigfoot1, install privoxy!11:48
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bigfoot1hairyhobbit, poningru, first could you give me an example website that uses popups/popdows that firefox, with Preferences-->Web Features-->Block Popup Windows   doesnt' block?11:49
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bigfoot1i guess i'm looking for a flash popup11:50
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poningrubigfoot1: no clue11:50
poningruI have never experienced one11:50
poningrusince I have most of those option enabled11:50
poningruI dont see any popus11:51
poningrupopups11:51
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ilucivwhy would I be getting this?11:52
ilucivsudo scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/au-Brisbane >channels.conf11:52
ilucivbash: channels.conf: Permission denied11:52
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poningruwait I thought dvb-t was in US only?11:52
ilucivWhy wuldn't I ahve permissions in superusr11:53
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warrior_hey guys quick question, does anyone here use 2.6.11-1 on their ubuntu system?11:53
poningruI thought Aus went the way of Europe?11:53
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poningrualso bigfoot1 if you want a good adblock11:54
poningruuse this11:54
poningruhttp://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm11:54
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ilucivdvb-t = terrestrial tv free two view11:54
poningruyeah I know11:54
Adrosshow do i find out which partition is my /boot partition?11:54
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ceuwarrior_: I've tried the last 2.6.12.2 (compiled using make-kpkg). I hangs at boot time (with message "FATAL: Error running install command for binfmt_0000")11:55
poningruiluciv: I thought that was not that standard used in AUS11:55
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ilucivponingru: well now you know :P11:55
warrior_ceu, yea I just installed 2.6.11 and it hung at it got past the splash but hung at loading my panels.  Why can other distros use it?11:55
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ilucivI'm using 2.6.12.211:56
poningrumy bad11:56
poningruiluciv: I thought AUS did ATSC11:56
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warrior_iluciv, did you make your kernel yourself for ubuntu?11:57
Adrossanyone?11:58
warrior_Adross, check your fstab11:58
warrior_Adross, /etc/fstab11:59
ilucivyep11:59
ilucivwarrioe_ yep11:59
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Adrossthanks11:59
ilucivponingru: No not yet anyway maybe 200811:59
warrior_iluciv, are you using gnome 2.10 with it?11:59
ilucivwarrior_:yep12:00
Adrosswarrior_: how do i view it?12:00
ilucivumm your eyes might help :P12:00
ilucivsorry12:00
poningruAdross: emacs12:00
warrior_Adross, use nautilus and go to the file or type sudo gedit /etc/fstab12:00
poningruemacs /etc/fstab12:00
poningrutype that into your  teminal12:01
ilucivwarrior_: what happens12:01
Adrossthanks12:01
poningruand if you want to edit it sudo emacs /etc/fstab12:01
warrior_iluciv, you mean with the kernel?12:01
hairyhobbitbigfoot1, I have no examples as I have no pop-up troubles. I suggested privoxy, have you tried it?12:01
Adrosshmm, i can't understand it12:01
Adrossif i post it in #flood, can someone tell me what it means?12:01
warrior_Adross, I'll take a look12:02
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ilucivwarrior_: sorry I still don't understand view it with the kernel??12:02
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Adrosscheers12:02
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ilucivwarrior: do you mean it doesn't load12:03
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koch2005hello12:03
warrior_iluciv, I can't get 2.6.11 to work with gnome.  never has, but it should be stable as I used it with another os12:03
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poningruAdross: it seems to be in sda612:03
Adrossah k, cheers12:04
Adrossso, knowing that, how would i go about fixing grub after reinstalling xp?12:04
ilucivI had no problem with gnome cept when I try to use my nvidia drivers (stock from nvidia.com) then I get segmentation errors I'll post a link gto a great link on the forums works a treat12:04
lokAdross, use a live-cd12:04
poningruAdross: you cant reinstall xp without deleting your other partitions12:04
warrior_iluciv, unfortunately I have an ati card12:05
Adrossi did12:05
bigfoot1hairyhobbit, no i haven't tried privoxy yet.12:05
koch2005What are the steps needed to configure sound in Ubuntu ? I had loaded my sound card driver Aztec 2320 in Ubuntu and it was playing system sounds properly. But I am getting distorted sound while playing an mp3 file.12:05
poningruhow12:05
Adrossbut i can't boot into it12:05
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poningrubigfoot1: its pointless12:05
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bigfoot1how come when i do a Ctrl-C in XChat ,it momentarily diappears.12:05
Adrossit says it can't read the partition, and the ntldr is missing12:05
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bigfoot1what's pointless12:05
bigfoot1?12:05
bigfoot1poningru, L12:05
bigfoot1?12:05
ilucivwarrior_:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&page=1&pp=10&highlight=kernel12:05
poningruprivoxy12:05
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ilucivwarrior_: Its a great howto12:06
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koch2005Does anybody have the same sound problems in Ubuntu?12:06
Adrosshmm, i think i have it12:06
Adrossthanks12:06
bigfoot1poningru, oh i see. i kinda thought you were going to say it's useless talking to me.   8-)12:07
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poningrurofl12:07
koch2005I think negating the sound problem. Ubuntu is really fabulous12:07
poningrunah we were all new to this once12:07
hairyhobbitponingru, privoxy is pointless? Explain12:07
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poningruhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privoxy12:07
ilucivI think graphics card suck either brand12:07
poningruall of that can be setup using adblock +12:07
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HrdwrBoBiluciv: yes, however the nvidia cards work :)12:07
poningruand other extensions in firefox12:08
koch2005I had also tried enabling ESD - but to no avail12:08
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ilucivHrdwrBoB: sorta sometimes12:08
poningruunless ofcourse you are not using firefox12:08
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poningruthen yes privoxy is necessary12:08
HrdwrBoBiluciv: mostly all the time12:08
koch2005Could anyone please point me to the right resource w.r.t configuring sound in Ubuntu?12:08
HrdwrBoBiluciv: look it's not perfect12:08
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HrdwrBoBbut if you want 3d in linux, there is no alternative.12:09
warrior_iluciv, I've read through that.  Sounded good but my only problem was making sure I got all my settings correct.  Is there a guide for choosing the right modules and all?12:09
hairyhobbitponingru, but if another user uses firefox will they have the same settings with adblock and extensions vs. privoxy?12:09
ilucivbah you come over here and get my tv-out working on either of my nvidia cards12:09
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HrdwrBoBiluciv: I have TV out working with two nvidia cards12:09
HrdwrBoBmy 5700 and gf2mx12:09
poningruhairyhobbit: I didnt understand your question12:09
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lukus001okay i really cant get my audio to work, does any one know how to get audio from the digital /optical cable on an asus a8n-ali deluxe board?12:09
lukus001sli*12:10
ilucivIThats doesn't mean you'd get mine working I can't get it to work under windows12:10
HrdwrBoBlukus001: I'm not sure you can12:10
HrdwrBoBiluciv: heh, what card12:10
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ilucivwarrior_ thats the part where copy over your old config make oldconfig12:11
bigfoot1poningru, i think hairyhobbit is saying that privoxy doesn't have to be set up per user, while firefox does.12:11
hairyhobbitponingru, works for me12:11
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poningruoh gotcha12:11
poningruyeah adblock and other extensions have to be setup12:11
poningruso yeah I guess a little more effort is required12:12
ilucivHrdwrBoB: Gforce 2 && 660012:12
HrdwrBoBthe gf2 should work.. odd12:12
warrior_iluciv, this could be easier than I thought.  Biggest question, do you have working 3d acceleration and linux headers to match 2.6.12-2?12:12
HrdwrBoBmaybe it's broken12:12
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ilucivMy ati card works great (Tv-out that is ) only it sucks for 3d  ati925012:13
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koch2005Nvida is the best12:13
ilucivwarrior_ I've posted in that thread near the end and gone through what I did like a newbie (cause I am one)12:14
warrior_iluciv, as am I12:14
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hairyhobbitlocate theonering12:15
ilucivWarrior_ only prob is the graphics its borking pretty frequently after installing the graphics drivers12:15
ilucivgnome that is12:15
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warrior_iluciv, yea I'm gonna avoid 2.6.12 and try to go with 2.6.11 and use fglrx 8.14.1312:18
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Coyctecmhey, how to install jar file? I have jre installed12:19
nightswimjava -jar huu.jar12:20
warrior_iluciv, this is what I get for wanting to be faster on a perfectly good system.  bbl if all goes well and thanks for the thread reference12:20
Coyctecmthanks =)12:20
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ilucivMy tip is search your hardware types; it takes a long time (well it took me along time but hey I'm a little silly)12:22
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ilucivyep 2.6.12.2 no very stable for this newbie12:22
itzHi got problem with mounting harddrives. I used Mandrake before and there u could easily mount and make changes in a gui program. Are there any similiar in ubuntu?12:23
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itzSeveas, can u help me this time to? :P12:24
Seveasmaybe12:24
itzHi got problem with mounting harddrives. I used Mandrake before and there u could easily mount and make changes in a gui program. Are there any similiar in ubuntu?12:24
Seveasyou mean for windows drives..?12:25
itznope ext312:25
Seveashmm, simply mount /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint    extr   rw,defaults   0  012:25
Seveasin /etc/fstab12:26
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Seveasafaik there is a disk mounter desklet in gdesklets too12:26
itzwell simply for u maybe ;)  no i guess i will manage to fix fstab.... gdeklets where do i find that?12:27
Seveassudo aptitude install gdesklets gdesklets-data12:27
Seveas;)12:27
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itzhmm ok.. ill try change fstab then first.... seems like problems for me either way :P12:29
itzSeveas, thx though12:29
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topyliitz: did you recently add hard drives? the installer should find your stuff12:34
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itztopyli, i installed with drives and ubuntu didnt find them... regular ext3.12:35
acid2_hey, does anyone know the package that contains libSDL.so ?12:35
itzbut it works when i mount manually12:35
mjracid2_, apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search libSDL.so12:35
topyliitz: yeah well, i have partitions mounted in places like /home/pub, i had to do those manually of course12:36
itzIt did find drives in install session but now in X it havent mounted them in any way12:36
acid2_mjr - sweet, thanks12:36
itztopyli, well they doesnt exist in any way atm... they arent in mnt library either12:36
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itzwas alot smother in mandrake12:37
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topyliitz: i hope they show up in fdisk though :)12:37
itzy12:37
itzthey do12:37
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topyliwell, fstab editing it is then12:38
itzIm quite pleased with ubuntu this far but mandrake is alot easier for a noob like me :P  then i also have some bugs...  minor but still not perfect ;)12:39
itztopyli, Y12:39
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dualBhelphey can some one tell me a single line i can tell grub to boot hda112:40
dualBhelp?12:40
dualBhelpif thats possible12:40
topyliitz: it's a different philosophy. mandrake makes easy tools for doing arcane stuff. ubuntu tries to make things just work so you don't have to fiddle with things12:40
itztopyli, well lets se in a couple of month whats suits me best ;)12:40
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NermaldualBhelp, kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/<kernel image>12:41
Nermalthen boot12:41
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topyliitz: the proof of the pudding is in the eating =)12:41
dualBhelpNermal: :D12:41
dualBhelpNermal: um can u give me the standerd hory kernal in that line?12:42
itztopyli, hehe whatever u say mate12:42
topyliactually i think it was lenin who said that :)12:42
itzQuote: "topyli itz: the proof of the pudding is in the eating =)"    It seems like u said it :o12:43
topyliyou quoted me quoting him :P12:44
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itzOk mr know it all ;)12:44
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topyliheh12:45
itztopyli, maybe u can help me with one bug12:46
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topyliitz: i googled. lenin quoted cervantes' don quixote o_012:46
topyliitz: which one?12:46
itzWhen typing "su" in terminal i get answer: "su: Authentication failure"12:46
nightswimyes12:47
topyliitz: root logins are disabled12:47
Seveasubuntu uses sudo12:47
nightswimthe root account is disabled by default12:47
topyliuse sudo12:47
Seveasitz: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:47
Seveasfor a root shell: sudo -i12:47
HoxzerNight: do you know what we had to ddoooo12:47
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itzok ill read it lather i guess sudo -i worked for the moment.. have to get some stuff to work first before reading everything.. i likte t do it the backway. (also with girls)12:48
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topyliitz: you ask for their names last?12:49
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itztopyli, something like that12:49
topyliperhaps not though12:49
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itzI f%ck them first and ask after if it was ok to do that :O12:50
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topyli"may i? or would you like to dance first?"12:50
itzguess im very tired my sense of humor is extremly low today :(12:51
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plovsanybody knows how to overwrite files from posinst when building a package? I use Replace: <packagename>, but still get a complaint12:52
topyliitz: anyway, it's not easy to learn by hosing your system first and then reading why it might have happened :)12:52
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itztopyli, i like it the hard way12:53
itz:p12:53
topyliplovs: Replaces: even?12:54
itzNah im just like that... always trying to make shortcuts but it doesnt work very often so i guess im a slow learner :O12:54
plovstopyli: i have: "Replaces: tinyproxy"12:55
graabeinhi. i need help with putting ftp-nerim in my repo-list12:55
topyliplovs: ok, just ruling out typos :)12:55
graabeini can access the address through firefox12:55
mdkegraabein, the best solution is not to add it at all12:55
plovstopyli: wished it was that easy :-)12:55
topyligraabein: don't do that, it won't work12:55
graabeinmdke, i need the mp3 decoder etc12:56
mdkegraabein, these things are available from ubuntu repositories12:56
itztopyli, even the worst can do it right... :P12:56
topyligraabein: they track unstable, it's far away from hoary12:56
graabeinallright, ill try to remove them12:56
mdkegraabein, its very very unlikely that there is anything you need from ftp-nerim12:56
topyliitz: success by accident is difficult to reproduce :)12:56
mdketopyli, actually i believe there is a stable, testing and unstable marillat repos, but shhhhh12:57
itzhehe12:57
graabeini just want to run the script from the ubuntuforum for clean installs12:57
graabeinget multimedia up and running12:57
mdkegraabein, if that script uses marillat it is not good12:57
topylimdke: [whispers]  well, testing might work12:58
mdketopyli, depends on your definition of "work"12:58
topylii mean stable12:58
graabeinmdke, ok... ill take a closer look at the script. maybe i can just edit the marillat part out12:58
mdkegraabein, for the correct way to install multimedia and so on, check out the wiki page at RestrictedFormats12:58
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unomeSeveas: would you take a look at this please: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/41112:58
topyligraabein: i looked at the script the other day. it won't work anymore12:59
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graabeinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264612:59
graabeinok...12:59
topyligraabein: it's a good idea but the script should be fixed12:59
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graabeintopyli, yeah, i think so too...01:00
topylianyway, i'd take a close look at any script on the net before running it as root :)01:01
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nikolahi, how can I add logcheck in crontab to be run with sudo and not as root?01:01
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HrdwrBoBsudo *is* root01:01
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mdkenikola, sudo crontab -e should do it01:02
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nikolamdake, and what do I put just after the time * * * user?01:02
nikolaits root now01:02
nikolathe user01:02
topyliroot is ok01:03
nikolatopyli, mdke, ok, thanks a lot!01:03
mdkei don't have any user written in my crontabs01:03
mdkejust the time and the command01:03
boodleHi all... Using Hoary and want to get my palm pilot (treo) functioning with gpilot.. it seems udev is to blame (can connect once then nothing). I've read all the forums/wiki stuff on ubuntu+palm but no luck other than futzing with /etc/udev/links.conf and manually setting ttyUSB0/1 but only good for one sync, then device not detected again.. any ideas?01:03
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mdkeperhaps it depends on what cron you run01:03
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topylimdke: aren't crontabs themselves owned as users? i think specifying a user is a special case01:04
mdkeyes i think so01:05
topylis/as/by01:05
mdkein my case i get a different crontab depending on which user runs it01:05
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topyliyes01:06
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jahi,i'm newbie,i've just installed ubuntu 5.04 and run root console then i wrote : passwd and set me password ,and everything is almost ok i can login like a root and run all programs but only in console,when i lke to open synaptic or root terminal prom menu i have this error: Failed to run "program name":Child terminated with 1 status,i can open synaptic or root terminal by my user password not root password,please help01:10
Seveasja, all menu entries use sudo01:11
itzja, i also get that sometimes01:11
Seveasyou do not need a root password01:12
Seveasja: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:12
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mdkethe menu items all use sudo01:12
topylija: just disable root again. you don't need it01:13
mdke++01:13
mdkesudo is great01:13
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jatopyli i don't understand why i have to disable root ?01:14
topylija: you don't have to. it's just useless01:15
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nalioth_zZzZzja becuase on ubuntu, root isnt required01:15
topylija: everything in ubuntu uses sudo anyway01:15
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jaok imust read something about sudo because i don't knoe exactly what it is:)01:16
bigdawgtopyli unless you compile wine01:16
topylija: read the wiki page Seveas gave you01:16
mdkeja, the link Seveas posted is good01:16
bigdawgtopyli then it asks for root password01:16
topylibigdawg: well, webmin does too :)01:16
topylican be fixed though01:16
bigdawgbut I solved that by giving root a password01:16
KuningaspulttiI'm beginner so please, this must sound a little dumb but i need to uninstall Ubuntu for a while and make some more space for it.01:17
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Hoxzer:D gimme shell account01:17
NermalKuningaspultti, do it the same way you would uninstall windows01:17
Nermalfdisk :P01:17
HoxzerKuningaspultti: where do you from?01:17
naliothKuningaspultti: why not use qtparted?01:17
KuningaspulttiFinland01:17
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topyliselvstikin :)01:17
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KuningaspulttiJep :D01:18
bigdawgAfter I uninstalled Windows, I stepped on the CD and shouted "evil be gone!"01:18
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bit_k01:18
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HoxzerKunin: is it possible to have shell account from you?01:18
KuningaspulttiNo01:18
Kuningaspulttinot right now01:18
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Hoxzeryes, lets do it now01:19
Hoxzeraaah.... baby give it to me01:19
Hoxzernice and slow but hard is rock01:20
KuningaspulttiNermal, but i've never _uninstalled_ it, i've just formatted the whole hard disk01:20
Nermalyou can't uninstall it01:20
Nermalwhy would you be able to01:20
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Nermalwell. you can rm -rf /01:21
Nermal:)01:21
naliothNermal: please watch the commands you write in hre01:21
cloud[01] newbie question: what is the full path to the trash?01:22
bigdawgcloud[01]  c:\01:22
topylibigdawg: i have a windows server 2003 cd as a coaster at work. it's quite stable01:22
naliothcloud[01] : depending on what software you have on, there are more than one path01:22
cloud[01] bigdawg LOL01:22
Nermalnalioth, why.. what are they doing?01:22
Nermalor are you another anal power giddy op ?01:23
bigdawgcloud[01]  sorry I could not resist =)01:23
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Hoxzer:D dont use windowns as a server01:23
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naliothNermal: some new users are 'curious' about commands...01:23
cloud[01] nalioh i've "erased" some root access files and now can't wmpty the trashcan :)01:23
bigdawganal power? is that a package?01:23
topylicloud[01] : in gnome, it's $HOME/.Trash01:23
cloud[01] topyli thanks01:23
Nermalnalioth, he wants to uninstall ubuntu. that command will effectively remove ubuntu01:23
bigdawghow do you install this 'anal power'?01:23
Nermalbigdawg, via a backdoor exploit01:24
naliothNermal: yes, i know01:24
bigdawgNermal, lol!01:24
bigdawgfinally, some humor today, thank you I need it01:24
Nermalyou did ask :)01:24
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Nermaloffice still spinning01:24
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cloud[01] clean now :)01:24
naliothcloud[01] : do you run kde?01:25
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cloud[01] nalioth nope, gnome, but resolved :)01:25
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naliothcloud[01] : just wondering, kde has its own trash location01:25
cloud[01] nalioth thanks :)01:26
NatF-UQIstupid question.. what do i have to do to get my ps2 mouse working? when i installed i used usb01:26
topylicloud[01] : i think it's a bug actually. root's files don't belong in users' trash01:26
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topylishould be impossible to move them there01:26
cloud[01] topyli: don't exaclty now how that was possible01:26
cloud[01] let me try once again :)01:26
bigdawgis there a bug in checkinstall? Sometimes sudo checkinstall makes a .deb but a lot of time it fails for no good reason, anyone experience this?01:26
HoxzerTopyli: can I  have one shell account for irssi thx01:27
topylicloud[01] : it's possible all right. it's a bug imo01:27
naliothbigdawg: do you read the logs when i fails?01:27
topyliHoxzer: you can even have your own ubuntu installation on your own box!01:27
bigdawgnalioth, yes but it does not give a good reason it says it failed when it fails.01:27
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naliothbigdawg: hmm, mine fails all the time, due to dpkg01:27
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bigdawgnalioth is it a bug or do some source code not like checkinstall method?01:27
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bigdawgnalioth why due to dpkg?01:28
HoxzerTopyli: I know but my mother shutdowned it >:<01:28
HoxzerI was pretty angry to her01:28
topyliHoxzer: who am i to argue with someone's mother? :)01:28
cloud[01] topyli: checked, chown root:root and then as normal user rm and worked01:28
naliothbigdawg: well, checkinstall isnt anywhere close to debian standard deb packaging, and dpkg fails on replacing existing files mostly (for me)01:28
cloud[01] i mean went to the trash01:28
topylicloud[01] : yep01:29
poningruhow do you start up your shell?01:29
cloud[01] but then try to empty the trash :)01:29
topyliyep01:29
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bigdawgnalioth, how can I make debian standard deb packaging without using checkinstall?01:29
topylicloud[01] : it's crack01:29
cloud[01] topyli crack?01:29
topyliwell, broken01:29
naliothbigdawg: sometimes it fails cuz there's no valid version number01:29
cloud[01] topyli ok :)01:29
mikcrophinei luv you!01:29
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naliothbigdawg: you'll have to visit debian.org and see the developer docs to learn that01:30
mikcrophinenerds01:30
HoxzerTopyli: you can give me some backup if I lose my own box for some reason01:30
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mdkemikcrophine, we all love one another here01:30
bigdawgnalioth, thank you for valid version number mention, I will look into that, and thank you for the developer docs suggestion I will look to that thank you01:30
mikcrophinenerds01:30
mdkebigdawg, there is some packaging information on the Ubuntu wiki too01:30
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mikcrophinepackage???01:31
paulfoxhi all01:31
mikcrophinehi all01:31
cloud[01] Is there anyone here using Pronto as email manager?01:31
bigdawgmdke, thank you I look into that =)01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
paulfoxhas anyone managed to install vmware from the binary tar.gz on their site?01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
mikcrophineno01:31
DocTomoeExcuse me ... where exactly do I find the Ubuntu Sparkle wallpaper used by Gnome in Breezy? I'd love to have this in KDE, but I cannot find the file...01:31
mikcrophinenooooooo01:31
topylibigdawg: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/01:31
mikcrophineVIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:31
cloud[01] (i know it's not its irc but.. its own is down)01:31
bigdawgtopyli, fantastic, thank you =)01:31
mikcrophineVIRUS transmittt messssaggge .01:32
mdkehmm01:32
mdkeSeveas, you got ops on here yet?01:32
bigdawgsomeone throw mikcrophine a +q01:32
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NatF-UQIwats the easiest way to make ubuntu find my ps2 mouse? cause its not currently :S01:33
mikcrophineBiddawg is really a sml dawg in pink undies01:33
naliothyou folks always have the /ignore option01:33
mikcrophine////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////01:33
NatF-UQIanyone?01:34
bigdawgnalioth but it fills up the logs ;(01:34
bigdawgNatF-UQI search http://www.ubuntuforums.org01:34
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virusvirus01:35
virusVIRUS01:35
Hoxzeryou ar3e01:35
virusplease identify yourself!01:35
virusYOU ARSEHOL01:35
Hoxzerim you01:36
virusIMPOSSIBLE! i dont look like a whale01:36
virushullo'01:37
HoxzerNonthing is what it looks like01:37
virusIs that what you say to the mirror01:37
virus??????01:37
virusok01:37
Hoxzerthat is what I say to you01:37
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Hoxzerare you mirror btw?01:38
NatF-UQIok my other stupid question for the nite, is.. how the frig do u operate kde without a mouse.. whats the command to open the starbar like thing01:38
naliothNatF-UQI: the 'windows' key01:38
viruspeople say im refective so same diff whale with no tail01:38
NatF-UQIwindows key isnt working01:38
topyliNatF-UQI: the console?01:38
virusHoxzer its feeding time01:38
NatF-UQIid like to get to the console :P im just in the default kde screen after one has logged in01:39
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topyliNatF-UQI: ctrl-alt-F201:39
NatF-UQIta01:39
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topylicome back with atl-F701:39
bigdawgXenguy if they did, they'd all be homeless01:39
Xenguybigdawg: ;-)01:39
virusComes from someone with time to waste SCOTTNOFRIENDS!01:39
virusMonkeyBrusirer01:40
virusthe lot of it!01:40
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inemohi all01:41
virusHullo Stupidity wasting away!01:41
inemonice welcome virtuald01:42
inemouh, virus even01:42
virusi know!01:42
inemowhats the best VNC server for ubuntu?01:42
topyliinemo: perhaps tightvnc01:43
naliothinemo: is that a chevy/ford question?01:43
topyliheh01:43
naliothinemo: vnc4server01:43
inemonalioth: ??01:43
virusHullo (reboots)01:43
inemoright ok01:43
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virusright ok seems to be the only response01:43
naliothinemo: c'mon a vi/emacs question? (iow, its based on opinion)01:43
inemoyeah, I have no idea on what vnc servers there are for ubuntu though01:44
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inemoif you ask for the best you get various ones that work on different setups ;)01:44
NatF-UQIive seriously broken something wiht this install :S01:44
naliothinemo: there are plenty, 'vino' being the newest, i believe (and in my experience, the buggiest)01:44
inemoi'll avoid vino then :)01:45
inemogotta install ubunt on the iBook yet anyway01:45
virusDo you  ever wonder why people bother to even talk here where there are millions of subways going un urinated01:45
naliothoff to urinate, i suppose01:46
no_gatez_fando I need to edit a file to get shorewall going with a text editer and if so which one?01:46
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FHullo01:47
inemohi F01:47
Fwhere are all the apple users i need to check your harddrives01:47
Fhi inemo!01:47
Finemo???01:48
inemoi'm an apple user, and you won't get anywhere near my HD :)01:48
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Fi dont know about that!!!!01:48
F:-*01:49
Finemo??01:49
inemoWhat?01:49
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Fwhat u wearing (apart from the HD)01:50
Finemo01:50
inemoclothes, now leave me alone01:50
Fwhy?01:50
HrdwrBoBhow can I get gam to let go of a mounted fs?01:50
F:-(01:50
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Finemo made me sad!!!!!01:51
F:-(01:51
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jeroen_My xserver has died01:51
jeroen_how do I reconfigure it?01:51
Fpoor uuuuu!!!!!01:51
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FUM . . . . ..  i'll ask01:52
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FJEROEN??01:52
naliothjeroen_: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:52
jeroen_F: yes?01:52
NatF-UQIhmms.. i dont think ubuntu likes my keybaord and mouse thru a kvm.. i cant even install cause the keybaord isnt working01:52
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jeroen_nalioth: thanks01:52
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Fim too sexy 4 this chat!!!01:52
Fb d bdzbfvdvhgz m01:53
golgorcan anyone tell me how to get root in gnome?01:53
Hoxzeryoou are sexy 4 me01:53
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FVIRUS@@@@@@@@333333333333333333333333 url sever 55534 ABORT!\01:53
nalioths_doggolgor: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:53
Hoxzergolgor: well there is root terminal if you mean that01:53
inemoaww what a pity, he left.01:53
Hoxzeryou can open files with that as a root01:54
naliothinemo: you know you were totally fascinated by F01:54
naliothlol01:54
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inemoyeah right nalioth01:54
Sexyim alone and sexy01:54
inemoSexy: you virus reincarnated?01:54
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Sexyinemo: you bitch reincarnated?01:55
golgoryea, im trying to install vlc and i have to edit sources.list to add their server but i dont have the right to do so :P01:55
naliothgolgor: use sudo01:55
Sexywell r u?01:55
inemono but if you are alone and sexy you might need to visit #ineedadate01:55
HoxzerI need real linux server01:55
Hoxzerlaptop is pretty poor :D01:55
naliothinemo: i thought that #ihavemyhand would be more fitting for Sexy01:56
SexyPoor u (ignore inemo very rude)01:56
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inemonalioth: true01:56
inemoI was waiting for him in there as well 9.901:56
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no_gatez_fanany one run shorewall?01:57
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golgornalioth, query :P01:59
naliothNameless1: dja get your cdrdao sorted yesterday?01:59
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jeroen_/etc/X/X11 is not executable01:59
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Hoxzerjeroen: how old are you?02:00
golgorgah, i have no idea to use sudo at all, can anyone explain how it works?02:00
naliothjeroen_: do you have X11?02:00
Nameless1amsn has gone screwy on me can someone tell me how to force it to close even tho its not responding02:00
naliothgolgor: open a terminal and any command you would use from a root terminal, type sudo <command> instead02:01
jeroen_nalioth: I do02:01
eyequeuejeroen_:  breezy?  see where the symlink points, it may need to be moved02:01
jeroen_eyequeue: breezy, yes02:01
no_gatez_fanNameless1 xkill02:01
no_gatez_fan?02:01
jeroen_you mean they change the location?02:01
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hacWhat is better ,Aterm or Eterm?02:01
no_gatez_fanthen click on it02:02
eyequeuejeroen_:  between -33 and -34 i had that problem. they're moving a number of x related things yes02:02
naliothhac: matter of opinion, but eterm is more configureable02:02
golgornalioth, query pls?02:02
naliothgolgor: ask02:02
golgori am02:02
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eyequeuejeroen_:  my guess is that -35 may move things as well :)02:03
Xenguyhac: aterm is leaner AFAIK02:03
HoxzerNalioth: can you answer my question: how old are you?02:03
naliothHoxzer: old enough02:03
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NatF-UQIso im guessing by that ur what, 11?02:04
NatF-UQI12 maybe? :P02:04
Hoxzer:D old enought for getting raped with fat cock niah niah naah naah02:04
naliothNatF-UQI: how did you know? 11.5 years02:04
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golgorim started using this yesterday, i have to edit the sources.list file. i can get root in terminal but dont know how to open files from termial02:05
xerxashi02:05
NatF-UQI*bangs head on desk* lol02:05
golgorand no idea how to get access to edit the files from gnome02:05
Hoxzer"can I have some chicken plz" "We have only cock today" "Oh noh!!! what are doing?!!?!"02:05
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naliothgolgor: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"02:05
xerxasI updated yesterday my breezy and cannot boot X anymore02:05
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xerxasBut this time cannot fix the problem02:05
eyequeuegolgor:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:05
naliothgolgor: use the terminal02:05
golgorat last, thanks guys :)02:06
xerxasdoes anyone know or have an idea what's going on ?02:06
xerxasI didn't find anything on forums nor on lists02:06
eyequeuegolgor:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, if you need a non-gui editor02:06
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xerxasand quickly checked bugzilla but didn't find nothing02:06
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oz__xerxas: are you using a nvidia card?02:06
eyequeuexerxas:  i had to revert to -33, -34 seems beyond hope02:07
xerxasoz__: nope02:07
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xerxaseyequeue: I don't have any usefull log02:07
xerxasoz__: i830 I think or 845 maybe02:07
xerxaseyequeue: I'm on breezy since it's begining and got used to fix X problems02:08
eyequeuexerxas:  nor i.  experimentation with selective upgrades/downgrades here02:08
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xerxaswith fonts, links ...02:08
eyequeuexerxas:  heh, yeah :-/02:08
xerxaseyequeue:  how do I do that ?02:08
inemoHoxzer: hi02:08
xerxasapt-get install xserver-xorg/33 ?02:08
xerxasapt-get downgrade ?02:08
eyequeuexerxas:  first, i think your /etc/X11/X symlink needs changing, but i had troubles past that too02:09
xerxaseyequeue:  so I did :)02:09
xerxasI relinked it correctly also02:09
xerxas...02:09
xerxasbut then I have a strange error at X launch02:09
xerxasthe same you have I suppose02:09
xerxas"Caught Signal 11"02:10
Hoxzerinemo: hi02:10
xerxaseyequeue:  how did you downgrade ?02:10
inemohows life Hoxzer ?02:10
golgoranyone know how to install vlc?02:10
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eyequeuexerxas:  well, i used sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*_6.8.2-33_*.deb02:10
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xerxaseyequeue:  humm02:11
xerxashope I didn't apg-get clean :)02:11
Hoxzerinemo: booring :<02:11
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inemohaha02:11
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eyequeuexerxas:  and i had to force some things between xlibs-data and libx11-602:11
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Hoxzerand im  irritated becouse my mom shutdowned my shell server and I can't acces to qnet :02:12
xerxasyep02:12
xerxasseems clear02:12
xerxasthat's all what it's about I think so02:12
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Hoxzeralso yesterday I lost all my important files becouse I tryed to repair winXP install :D02:13
Hoxzerwell at least I find out when WinXP betray you dont trust it anymore02:13
xerxaseyequeue:  did you reverted the link ?02:13
neospygolgor: I am pretty sure you can install through synaptic02:13
Hoxzer*found  and betrays even02:14
eyequeuexerxas:  yes02:14
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xerxasseems to work with libX11-6 and the link not reverted :)02:15
eyequeuexerxas:  about 4 times during my experiments, heh02:15
xerxashumm02:15
xerxasthen i doesn't anymore ?02:15
xerxasbecause of shared memory  ?02:16
xerxaseyequeue:  you forced the removal of libx11-6 ?02:18
neospygologor:  It does work i just installed VLC02:18
eyequeuexerxas:  well, the previous version didn't have the versioned depends (per examining its changelog.Debian) so i reverted to that one02:19
xerxashumm02:21
eyequeuexerxas:  adding to the confusion, there's a new x-common package that i think changes some symlinks (such as /usr/bin/X11 to ..)02:21
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xerxasdon't really understand02:21
xerxasbut now , i can't dpkg -i xlibs-data cause it conflicts with libx11-602:21
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xerxasbut can't dpkg -r libx11-6 because too much things depends on it02:21
xerxasdid you force the removal ?02:22
eyequeuexerxas:  if you did, i might have you fix x for us :) (i think only the devs understand x today, and even then i have my doubts)02:22
xerxaswithout deps ?02:22
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hacHow Can I disable the beep in the terminal?02:22
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eyequeuexerxas:  no, i forced a downgrade via dpkg -i again02:22
xerxask02:23
xerxasthanks02:23
eyequeuehac:  ^A^G if under screen(1)02:23
Suepahflyis there an _easy_ way to get all the buttons of my mx1000 working?02:23
genbieHi, anyone knows if I can easily upgrade a remote Sarge server to Ubuntu?02:23
xerxashac:  in /etc/inputrc02:23
xerxasset bell-style visual02:23
xerxasor02:23
xerxasset bell-style none02:23
xerxasvisual make a white flicker on the screen instead of beeps02:24
hacxerxas, I tried but i back to the beep,its horrible :/02:25
xunil_samuelk@Linux-Computer:~/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c$ makecd . && make -f admin/Makefile.common configure.in ;make[1] : Entering directory `/home/samuelk/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c'02:26
xunil_make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/samuelk/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c'cd . && aclocal-1.6/bin/sh: aclocal-1.6: command not foundmake: *** [aclocal.m4]  Error 12702:26
xunil_how do i fix that error?02:26
xerxashac:  ?02:26
xunil_i have aclocal-1.402:26
xerxaseyequeue:  humm , don't seem to be able to downgrade02:26
xerxasam I stupid ?02:26
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eyequeuexerxas:  no, i think i had to force some things manually02:26
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xerxaseyequeue:  k02:27
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xunil_how do i link the aclocal command to aclocal-1.6?02:29
bulletproofhey, guys I have asked this before but the answer I got didn't work! how do I permanently change the path for any user who logs on to the machine02:30
bulletproof?02:30
bulletproofhey, guys I have asked this before but the answer I got didn't work! how do I permanently change the path for any user who logs on to the machine02:32
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bulletproofany1 talking today?02:35
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neospy@ bulletproof i dont know the answer to your problem02:38
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neospybut plenty of people were talking before you showed up......02:39
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itzHow can i change resolution or hz to login screen?   everytime im comming to loginscreen my monitor doesnt feel to good. its not made for that high resulotion with 75hz02:42
no_gatez_fanbulletproof just home directory or what02:42
xunil_how do i kill X?02:42
inemogoing to college now...bye :D02:42
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bcc|graveitz, you should change the resolution in your xorg.conf02:42
itzbcc|grave,  k i try02:42
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bulletproofno_gatez_fan: no ineed to add jdk/bin02:43
bulletproofno_gatez_fan: normally on other distros it would just go in bas_profile but that don't work02:43
xunil_how do i kill X?02:43
bcc|graveitz, don't forget to backup first ;)02:44
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tvoxunil_: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it if that's what you mean02:44
itzxorg.conf's location is?02:44
bulletproofno_gatez_fan: bashrc seems to have done it - thanks anyhow02:44
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xunil_no i whant to kill it so i can install my nvidia driver02:44
xunil_but cant find x in ps aux02:44
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Tsukasaxunil_, you can simply log off02:45
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Tsukasaor kill gdm02:45
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xunil_k02:45
no_gatez_fanbulletproof ok good...sorry i was trying to get shorewall turned on02:45
no_gatez_fanany ideas anyone02:45
no_gatez_fan?02:45
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lhb!shorewall02:46
ubotulhb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:46
itzbcc|grave,  etc.x11 is that the one02:47
no_gatez_fani want to get shorewall running... :(02:47
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nameless1_a friend of mine is tryin to install ubuntu but he needs to setup his lan driver and he installed ndiswrapper 1.2    and he needs a kernel module thing for it to work can someone tell me the exact apt-get  so that i can just tell him. as he is not here in person im chatin to him over msn02:48
nameless1_(he has 2 comps thats how im chatin to him)02:48
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Originoohey, where i can find the kernel-sources in ubuntu?02:49
deltroni think it's called linux-source02:49
deltronjust like linux-image02:50
Originoodeltron: thx02:50
deltronnp02:50
jahi.when i'm closing synaptic i have little windows :changing user PLEASE ENTER YOUR PASSWORD.why i have this window ?02:50
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bulletproofYou know in windows you can change the host file which acts like a local DNS so that certain domain names can be mapped to IPs - can I do a similar thing in linux/ubuntu - or firefox02:51
djpdoes anyone know if gnusound is better than audacity? i gather gnusound is the default sound ediotr in ubuntu?02:51
bulletproofOriginoo: is there not a repository for them?02:52
bulletproofOriginoo: nevamind ur sorted now02:52
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acid2_oh sweet!02:59
acid2_an ardour package!02:59
acid2_:)02:59
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ateveshi, is there something like the KDE personal information manager for gnome?03:01
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Scroopyim a noob, please be kind03:01
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bulletproofYou know in windows you can change the host file which acts like a local DNS so that certain domain names can be mapped to IPs - can I do a similar thing in linux/ubuntu - or firefox03:04
janseni had some problem03:04
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Scroopyhey people, i have just installed ubuntu literally 20mins ago and it smy first linux OS03:04
spamalopeyup03:05
Scroopyi am just wondering how to hook up my 2 250GB hdds03:05
Poromiescongrats Scroopy03:05
Scroopyso i can access the file son them03:05
jansenW: GPG error: when i apt-get update03:06
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deltronScroopy: congrats.  you need to mount the drives now.03:06
Scroopyhow?03:07
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Scroopyhow i mount hdds03:08
Whistlerwww.ubuntuguide.org03:08
golgorcan anyone tell me how to install packages i've downloaded to home/$user?03:09
Tsukasagolgor, deb packages can be installed by sudo dpkg -i <packetname>03:09
bulletproofgolgor: are they .tar.gz03:09
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Scroopyguess i wont mount them then03:09
golgorno, .deb03:09
plovsI want to create a meta-package that pulls another package and then overwrites the conf-files in etc. I use "Replaces: <packagename>", but still get a complaint: trying to overwrite `/etc/tinyp etc03:11
plovswhat is wrong?03:11
djpScroopy: try here... http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Mounting_drives03:11
Scroopythanks03:12
Scroopythis is all too friggin confusing03:13
Scroopy:'(03:14
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Whistlercan anybody recomend any linux rpg game?03:18
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bulletproofgot a problem, firefox has stopped working ever since I tried to install the newer version using aptget, I can't install it, and I can't remove it coz it says its not installed03:19
TraceHello, Does anyone here know how ubuntu do its hardware detection?03:19
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acid2_what program can I use to record my desktop to a flash file/video?03:20
PBeckhi03:20
bulletproofwhistler: use zsnes and play all the old snes ones : zelda, lufia, chrono trigger they're all awesome03:20
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Whistleri wanna new games03:21
Whistler:)03:21
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bulletproofwhistler: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Games/Role_Play/index.shtml can't say I have played any of them though03:23
wdhanyone knows of a plugin for gaim that allows one to send offline messages on MSN? Meaning that it keeps the message in queue and sends it when that person comes online?03:23
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acid2_wdh, not that I know of, sorry03:25
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wdhguess i should get back to centericq then :P03:26
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samuelkhow do i gett kernel-sourcE?03:26
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wdhsamuelk, sudo apt-get install linux-source iirc03:27
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luzbelitohi to everyone03:28
Whistlerhi03:28
wdhsamuelk, and use apt-cache search linux-source to find the correct versionnumber03:28
bulletprooffirefox is broken and I can't reinstall it with either apt-get or by dloading the package from mozilla.org03:28
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luzbelitoi need to make a question: i had installed ubuntu in a partition and windows in another one03:28
luzbelitocan i format windows without cleaning MBR (master boot record)03:28
luzbelito???03:28
luzbelitoanyone?03:29
paulfoxhey all, i don't suppose anyone has experience with a d-link wireless bridge? (DWL 810+) i've configured it, but can't get any signal from it at all03:30
samuelkit says i already have it but the nvidia says they cant find the kernel-source tree i could use the --kernel-source-path if i knew there to point to..03:31
luzbelitosamuel: i had the same problem03:32
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jamey3What are the best Ubuntu resources? So far I've found only the official Wiki useful.03:32
samuelkhow did you fix it=03:32
samuelk?03:32
luzbelitosamuel: is not a package i suppose. because i looked it but no answer03:32
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poningrujamey3: this channel03:32
luzbelitosamuel: i can't fixed it yet03:32
poningrujamey3: the forum03:32
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poningruand there is the docs03:33
poningruoh also ubuntuguide.org03:33
jamey3poningru, for some reason I completely overlooked ubuntuforums.org03:33
samuelkk03:33
Whistlerhow can i install sdl?03:33
jamey3ubuntuguide.org "apparently" isn't as good as the Wiki03:33
jamey3Where are the docs?03:33
poningruhold on03:33
jamey3ok thanks03:33
samuelkany one know where the kernel-source tree are?03:33
Whistleranybody knows how can i install sdl?03:34
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poningruhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/03:34
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jamey3poningru, thanks a lot03:34
moeai am trying to run "apt-get update" on the ubuntu live-cd, but i'm getting an error - assertion failed: lower file != NULL...'03:34
luzbelitomoea: did you check sources.list ?03:34
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samuelkdo ubuntu use kernel or linux ?03:36
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klaymsamuelk: ?!03:39
klaymubuntu uses the linux kernel03:39
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samuelkhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver03:39
moealuzbelito: where does sources.list live?03:40
samuelkhoto..03:40
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alchemist0405moea, /etc/apt/03:40
luzbelito/etc/apt03:40
luzbelitothanks alchemist03:41
moeaim not sure whats wrong with it though, it has three lines, acthive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, and two people.ubuntu.com/~lamont lines03:41
alchemist0405luzbelito, np03:41
luzbelitomoea03:42
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JHKhi there, i want a file including a console command that i can execute in nautilus. how?03:42
luzbelitowait a minute03:42
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luzbelitomoea03:43
luzbelitoare you connected to internet with linux?03:43
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moeaim on freebsd now, but the livecd machine is on the internet03:44
luzbelitook03:44
luzbelitotake a look03:44
luzbelitoif you has a line like this: root@lenin:/etc/apt # more sources.list03:44
luzbelitodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted03:44
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moeaall of the lines are URLs in my sources.list03:45
James686luzbelito I need help installing Ubuntu03:45
alchemist0405can grub be reinstalled from install cd or does that have to happen from the livecd?03:45
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luzbelitook james just ask03:46
luzbelitomoea03:46
luzbelitomoea: if you wanna to install from live cd03:46
luzbelitoor cd03:46
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luzbelitoyou need a line that says: deb cdrom03:46
JDigital`Where is the Trash can located in the filesystem-- oh I found it, never mind03:46
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moeai dont, i want to install a package from the internet03:47
moeai have lost the install CD, i'm trying to install ubuntu from the live CD03:47
James686well I just copied the files to a blank CD, I insert it in my primary CD drive, and I did set it to be used first on reboot, but it doesnt go anywhere...03:47
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jpfarias_hi03:47
James686either I just wasted a blank CD or Im doin somethin wrong...03:47
jpfarias_can someone help me to setup my keyboard03:48
luzbelitojames: check your BIOS booting preferences03:48
James686I did03:48
samuelkhow do i mount a *.iso file in shell?03:48
luzbelitomoea: make a ping -c to url03:48
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jpfarias_on my keyboard,  the question sign is AltGr+W03:48
James686what else should I change in my boot settings?03:48
jpfarias_but it does not appear when I press it03:48
Tracehello, samuelk, mount -o loop *.iso "a dircetory you create"03:48
luzbelitojames: check booting preferences03:49
James686fine I will, I'll return03:50
luzbelitojames: wich device boots 1st, 2nd03:50
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James686yeah03:50
James686CD boots first03:50
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luzbelitojames: so cd is not well burned03:50
GrayStoneHello everyone.03:51
James686what did I do wrong???03:51
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luzbelitohi gray03:51
luzbelitojames: did you download .iso image?03:51
GrayStoneHow do I find out what the password is for SU mode in my install of Ubuntu?03:51
terra1hey guys03:51
James686I just copied the files directly from the folder03:51
GrayStoneHi Luzbelito.03:51
terra1GrayStone, it's hard to find out but just do a sudo as a normal user and enter that user's password, then do an passwd and set the password on your own03:51
James686wait, did it matter if I just downloaded it w/ out saving it and I just extracted the files?03:52
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luzbelitojames: download iso image from www.ubuntu.com and burn it like image cd (nero)03:53
James686wouldnt the .iso image come w/ the installation package?03:53
TrinitrogenHow can I get curses.h?03:53
luzbelitohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/03:53
luzbelitosorry that is the web03:53
luzbelitojames: check it in the folder, look for .iso files03:54
GrayStoneThanks terra1.  But that seems totally greek to me. LOL03:54
terra1ok GrayStone sorry ;)03:54
GrayStoneI am Totally new at Linux.03:54
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terra1yes ok sorry ;)03:54
terra1open a terminal03:54
James686I created a boot.iso image to it using MagicISO03:54
GrayStoneok03:54
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luzbelitojames: where you download it ?03:55
acid2_lo03:55
James686MagicISO?03:55
terra1GrayStone, now enter "sudo bash"03:55
James686I dont really remember the link lol03:55
luzbelitojames: use this http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso03:55
GrayStoneok03:55
terra1oh fuck03:55
terra1graystone iam sorry03:55
terra1i read your question the wrong way03:55
terra1the SU password is just your first user's password03:55
acid2_"/dev/hdb5/mnt/windowsntfsdefaults,user00" Is that the correct entry in fstab to automount my windows partition?03:56
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James686luzbelito, thats the folder I extracted..03:56
luzbelitojames: but you must dont extract it, burn it to cd03:56
jpfarias_someone help me with my keyboard03:57
jpfarias_please03:57
James686I cant extract it then burn the files I extract to a CD?03:57
acid2_jpfarias_, looks fine to me03:57
jpfarias_I need to setup altgr key03:57
luzbelitojames: no, burn 1st03:57
James686ahhh I see03:57
James686whats the difference?03:57
jpfarias_acid2_, the question sign is altgr + w03:57
luzbelitoacid: wich permissions you want?03:57
James686doesnt it extract EVERY file in the folder?03:57
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jpfarias_acid2_, I can't type any question mark right now03:58
MattFTravis here?03:58
samuelkany one have a cd key for ut2004?03:58
samuelkdont have wine installed03:58
Seveassamuelk, wrong channel...03:58
jpfarias_acid2_, this is the key I miss most03:58
acid2_samuelk, take your warez elsewhere03:58
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samuelkk sorry.03:58
luzbelitojames: is a big difference03:58
jpfarias_acid2_, is there a way to make only it work03:59
James686how?03:59
acid2_how do I know?03:59
acid2_All I said is that it looked fine to me03:59
James686so right now I have to re-download the OS, but save it to my desktop instead of just opening it, right?03:59
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luzbelitojames: if you download a iso file, keep it in a directory. then burn to cd04:00
James686Is Ubuntu really worth the download?04:00
aCiD2hell yea04:00
James686lol Im sure its slick04:01
James686can you play PC games on it?04:01
Seveassome04:01
aCiD2some04:01
James686lol04:01
aCiD2which games you want to play?04:01
Seveascedega is good at playing games04:01
James686Sims 2?04:01
GrayStoneBRB everyone.04:01
aCiD2James686, you the one that posted on the ubuntuforums?04:02
aCiD2:P04:02
James686ummm no lol04:02
James686I never posted there yet04:02
James686why?04:02
aCiD2ah, someone else wanted to run sim 204:02
aCiD2sims204:02
James686oh so you cant?04:02
aCiD2anyway, I think Cedega is capable of running it04:02
luzbelitoi don't think ubuntu can run sims 204:02
Seveashttp://transgaming.org/gamesdb/04:02
Seveascheck that04:03
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James686that sucks that you need to download a program to get to install a game...04:03
Tsukasawell James686, that goes without saying04:03
aCiD2not really..04:03
jamey3James686, most things suck04:03
Tsukasawindows != linux04:03
aCiD2bare in mind that the Sims 2 wasnt even developed for Linux04:03
Tsukasaso you shouldn't exspect for linux to run every windows app04:03
aCiD2and yea, what Tsukasa said04:03
James686that IS true04:03
jamey3if you want more native Linux games, go complain to EA04:04
aCiD2infact, you shouldnt expect it to run any (and you should find alternatives)04:04
aCiD2jamey3, hehe :)04:04
luzbelitostop playing sims 2 and use yout time for any better ;-)04:04
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Tsukasayeah, wine is great, even though all of us complain a bit :)04:04
aCiD2I was going to suggest finding a REAL game ;)04:04
Seveaslike sims 3 :)04:04
James686I actually dont play it much I was just wonderin if it plays that lol04:04
James686and I dont even have to worry about it since that game is comin out for all consoles, w/ even more features04:05
James686even Half-Life 2 is comin out for Xbox04:05
James686which will probably suck...04:05
aCiD2:/04:05
TsukasaHalf Life 2 is a game that runs nice on cedega ^^04:05
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aCiD2Yep04:05
James686is it?04:05
Tsukasahell yeah04:06
Tsukasa:D04:06
samuelkMUD roxx..04:06
aCiD2hehe04:06
aCiD2:)04:06
James686lol better than Windows? lol04:06
Tsukasanah, not better04:06
aCiD2about the same with an nVidia card04:06
Tsukasabut surprisingly not worse04:06
Tsukasawell, not _much_ worse04:06
aCiD2basically, its not noceiably worse04:06
aCiD2noticably too04:06
jamey3Tsukasa, it always sucked on Cedega for me. Radeon 9550, works fine in Windows04:06
Tsukasax800, works nice04:06
James686Nvidia GeforceFX 500004:07
aCiD2jamey3, do you have hardware accel?04:07
James686yes04:07
jamey3aCiD2, what do you mean!?04:07
James686I should04:07
James686lol04:07
James686ohhh04:07
jamey3it's a hardware accel card, like all cards nowadays04:07
James686woops04:07
Shuddertrixthere's less annoying lag, too.04:07
James686lol04:07
jamey3and the drivers/modules were installed04:07
aCiD2jamey3, yes... but do YOU have hard accel on your linux box?04:07
jamey3but with an X800 and crap drivers it's gonna FLY, even "emulated"04:07
jamey3aCiD2, how the fuck is that different from that last question? ;) Sorry about my complete ignorance...04:07
Tsukasathat's definetively true04:07
Tsukasathe ati drivers are like a punishment04:08
Originoowhich packages do i need to install, if i wain to use other lenguages with gnome?04:08
aCiD2jamey3, calm down man.. all i wandered was if you had hardware accel on linux :/04:08
Originoowain=want04:08
James686II have a question, being that Ubuntu is completely free and open source, is it better than Windows?04:08
aCiD2yes04:09
aCiD2well04:09
aCiD2its down to opinion04:09
aCiD2but04:09
aCiD2yes04:09
aCiD2:P04:09
jamey3yes it is04:09
jamey3:P04:09
jamey3much04:09
James686LOL04:09
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jamey3much better04:09
aCiD2i personally think much better04:09
moparfan90whats Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client04:09
jamey3well we are all in agreement then04:09
SeveasJames686, technically Linux is superior to windows04:09
James686I already wasted 2 CDs on trying to install it :-(04:09
jamey3any M$ monkeys around here?04:09
TsukasaLet's say it this way: For desktop and multimedia its equal to windows04:09
aCiD2im a .NET whore04:09
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Seveasand with Ubuntu, Linux finally is usable04:09
SeveasaCiD2, mono :)04:09
aCiD2duh04:10
aCiD2thats what im using04:10
moparfan90hello. whats "Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client"04:10
jamey3Tsukasa, I would tend to disagree04:10
Seveasmoparfan90, pppoeconf04:10
jamey3with a bit of perserverance you can get all multimedia codecs to work04:10
jamey3games is the obvious bummer04:10
jamey3but for people who don't play games, it's excellent04:10
moparfan90whats that mean?04:10
Seveasbut that's not Linux' fault04:10
jamey3Seveas, exactly04:10
aCiD2im a game developer and find it just as powerful for games04:10
jamey3just stupid non-free stuff04:10
Tsukasajamey3, that's what I wanted to express :)04:10
Seveasmoparfan90, that's the command to configure pppoe/adsl04:10
James686and Im not MUCH of a gamer...so Im aight04:10
jamey3aCiD2, now we just need more native Linux games04:11
aCiD2jamey3, amen04:11
jamey3Tsukasa, cool :P04:11
Seveassupertux & frozen bubble is enough for me04:11
jamey3James686, same here :D04:11
aCiD2frozen bubble \o/04:11
jamey3Seveas, lol I love those games04:11
jmjonesbzflag04:11
jmjonesyou gotta play bzflag04:11
Seveasjamey3, found the secret place already?04:11
moparfan90seveas: what does the progrm do. im confused04:11
James686I'll deal w/ the games that comes w/ Ubuntu :d04:11
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James686:-)04:11
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James686Doom 3 for Ubuntu?04:12
Seveasmoparfan90, you can configure all your pppoe settings with it04:12
moparfan90o04:12
jmjonesjust installed and tried unreal tournament 2004 demo - it seems to work OK04:12
TsukasaJames686, there's an official client for linux04:12
Tsukasaby idsoft04:12
aCiD2Neverwinter nights!04:12
jmjoneswith the newer ati drivers04:12
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ShuddertrixJames686: There's a official linux client, works wonderfully.04:12
James686REALLY04:12
aCiD2yup04:12
jmjonesthe fglrx drivers in hoary are busted04:12
aCiD2and an official ut2k404:12
James686awesome, most powerful game ever, supports Linux04:12
ShuddertrixAlso, unreal tournament 2k3/2k4, etc.04:12
Tsukasayeah, and there's RtcW:ET as well :)04:12
James686thats too cool04:13
aCiD2jmjones, no, they aren't04:13
jmjonesthey don't work right for my video card04:13
aCiD2well, ive got it all working anyway04:13
jmjonesi had to install the latest from ati04:13
James686I wonder how Doom 3 would run on Ubuntu...04:13
moparfan90anyone have doom3 linux04:13
jmjonesi've got the x300 mobility04:13
aCiD2James686, not baddly04:13
Tsukasayeah, I've Doom 3 installed04:13
aCiD2infact, about the same id guess04:13
ShuddertrixJames686: It runs just as well on Linux.04:13
James686bet you need 1 gig of RAM huh?04:13
aCiD2(no reason why it shouldnt)04:13
TsukasaI've a little issue with sound though04:13
samuelkhow do i download wine04:14
jmjonesnow that i have UT installed and working, my wife will *never* see me :-)04:14
ShuddertrixI have 512mb and it gets around 20-30fps at my regular settings, which is good enough since i'm used to playing at 10fps in most games with my older systems i've had.04:14
James686does Ubuntu really come w/ Firefox and Thunderbird preinstalled?04:14
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Seveasyes James68604:14
Seveaswell, ff04:14
Seveasnot tb04:14
James686NICE04:14
ShuddertrixTested it with 1gb, never went below 35fps04:14
James686I thought it does!04:14
SeveasUbuntu has evolution by default04:15
golgoranyone know how to get the sound to work with nforce 2?04:15
Seveasbut thunderbird is exremely easy to install :)04:15
jamey3James686, it doesn't come with Thunderbird but it's easily installed through the package manager or apt-get04:15
jamey3oops sorry didn't see that ^^ :P04:15
James686yeah but I looked at screenshots and it showed this one popup menu that lets you choose those things to install plus OpenOffice04:15
ShuddertrixThunderbird? Pfft. Sylpheed is all you need.04:15
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James686same here lol04:16
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jmjonessylpheed is nice - not as pretty as thunderbird, but AFAIK, you can't manage multiple profiles with it.04:16
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jmjonesif you can, please tell me and i'll likely switch.04:16
jamey3jmjones, manage multiple profiles with Thunderbird or Sylpheed?04:16
jmjonessylpheed04:16
ShuddertrixWho really needs more then one email address, anyways?04:16
golgoranyone know how alien works, installing rpm packages04:16
jmjonestbird does04:16
Shuddertrix:P04:16
jamey3jmjones oh04:16
jamey3no idea :P04:16
jamey3Shuddertrix, my thoughts exactly04:17
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jmjonesit's not just email address - it's when i'm on my lan, i want to connect to my server direct.  when i'm at work, i want to connect a different way04:17
aCiD2does that slypheed thing have rss?04:17
Mysteryi need some help with the sound in ubuntu04:17
Mysteryit doesn't seem to work04:17
Mysteryi'm using a ectiva audio card04:18
James686oh, is it easy to install a wireless network from a Linksys wireless router on Ubuntu?04:18
Mysterycan anyone help? please?04:18
Tracehello, Mystery, which sound driver do you use?04:18
ShuddertrixaCiD2: I don't think so. I have one email address (that uses pop/imap) and no need for rss, so it's perfect for me.04:18
mwegolgor, alien is supposed to convert the rpm to a deb isn't it04:18
aCiD2Shuddertrix, ah04:18
ShuddertrixI get the gtk fonts fixed, and it will replace mozilla-mail for me.04:18
golgoryea mve, but i dont know how it works04:18
TsukasaJames686, wifi + linux can be pretty tough sometimes :)04:18
mwegolgor, at least that's how I've used it04:19
golgori found the packages with drivers for my nf2 but its in rpm04:19
Mysterytrace, it04:19
James686shit for real...04:19
jmjonesgtkwifi04:19
Tracewhat?04:19
Mystery*it's04:19
James686I HAVE to have that installed04:19
mwegolgor, then use alien to convert it to a deb then dpkg -i to install it04:19
jmjonesif you're doing wireless, you need gtkwifi04:19
James686how will I be able to install the wireless network card when its installed?04:19
jmjonesit rocks04:19
golgoryea but how mve :P04:19
Mysteryi'm not sure about the driver04:19
golgorim new to this04:19
SeveasJames686, do you know which chipset your wifi card uses?04:19
jmjonesJames686: is this on a laptop?04:19
James686how can I get it w/ out the internet?04:19
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James686no Desktop04:20
Traceok, do you use Ubuntu?04:20
James686Im going to04:20
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Mysteryyes, otherwise i wouldn't be here04:20
Tracesudo alasaconf04:20
SeveasJames686, you will probably need ndiswrapper04:20
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yahalomhow do i find out what my gateway ip is?04:20
Seveasyahalom, route04:20
James686how will I get it?04:20
Tracedo you have alsaconf?04:20
SeveasJames686, it's on the cd04:20
James686its gonna be easier to read the CD once I have Ubuntu? lol04:21
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jmjoneshas anyone grabbed video off of a camcorder via firewire?04:21
Mysterytrace, alsamixer is only thing i can find04:21
yahalomSeveas, I'm trying to see my routers firmware. Any ideas?04:21
Mysteryi'm a sorter noob to ubuntu, so you might need to explain a bit more04:21
Mysterysrry04:21
Traceok, apt-cache search alsaconf and apt-get install alsaconf04:21
Tracefirst, can you open an terminal?04:22
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Mysterytrace, not that much of a noob :P04:22
Traceand then, apt-cache search alsaconf04:22
Mysterycomes up with "alsa-utils - ALSA utilities"04:23
Traceand then , you may install alsaconf, sudo apt-get install alsaconf04:23
James686ok when the Ubuntu program finishes installing, will I have to install the files only? or the folder of them?04:23
djpjmjones: kino?04:23
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Mysterydone04:24
Mysterynow what?04:24
Traceand try to run "sudo alsaconf"04:24
jmjonesdjp: yeah - i'm doing it - just wondered if anyone has had problems.  i had to chmod my /dev/raw139404:24
Mysterycommand not found :S04:24
Tracewhereis alsaconf04:25
Tracetype command "whereis alsaconf"04:25
djpjmjones: oh ok. sorry don't have firewire and never used kino. good luck.04:25
Mysterynowhere04:25
Mysterylol04:25
Mysterydoesn't come up with a directory04:25
bulletproofcan someone help me! PLEASE I seem to have broken mozilla and firefox and can't reinstall them coz of dependency problems!!04:25
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aCiD2bulletproof, calm down04:25
jmjonesbulletproof: you need mutt and links04:25
bulletproofaCiD2: I'm pretty calm thanks :)04:26
Tracedpkg -L |grep alsa-utils04:26
yahalommy gateway only shows a * how do i find out what the ip is?04:26
Tracedpkg -L alsa-utils |grep alsaconf04:26
Tracesorry04:26
Mysteryoh right04:26
Mysteryinstall it first04:26
blazintt04:26
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Tracecan you see where alsaconf is?04:27
bulletproofjmjones: isn't that like getright - I have the gunzip for firefox from mozilla.org but that won't install either04:27
bulletproofjmjones: correction wget04:27
jmjonesbulletproof: are you trying to install packages, or binaries from mozilla?04:27
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Mysterydone....i think04:28
Mysteryit didn't show any progress or anything04:28
bulletproofjmjones: I was apt-getting orginally but when that didn't work I grabbed the bin for firefox from mozilla.org04:28
Tracesudo alsaconf?04:28
Mysterynope, nothing :04:28
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Trace......04:29
Mysterymaybe i should install it from synaptic?04:29
jmjonesbulletproof: what error are you getting when apt-getting?04:29
bulletprooffirefox-gnome-support depends on firefox (= 1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5); however:04:29
bulletproof  Package firefox is not configured yet.04:29
TraceGood luck, i may not be able to help you .:-(04:29
Mysteryfuck04:30
luzbelitowich one is the best movie player for linux ????04:30
Shuddertrixbulletproof: try mozilla-firefox04:30
jmjonesluzbelito: xine04:30
mwemplayer04:30
Shuddertrixluzbelito: Personal choice, that is.04:30
Mysteryalso04:30
Mysteryi'm not sure04:30
Mysteryif this will help you help me04:30
cazabamluzbelito, vlc :)04:30
ShuddertrixXine, mplayer, gstreamer, vlc, realplay, etc.04:30
Mysterybut, totem comes up with an error saying it has no plugin for wav or mp3 or any other format04:30
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bulletproofjmjones: same err04:30
cazabamjust to chuck another one in04:30
Mysteryi have xine installed04:31
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aCiD2luzbelito, I prefer xine04:31
bulletproofShuddertrix: same err04:31
Shuddertrixhmm04:31
cazabamMystery, sounds like your gstreamer registry is corrupt04:31
cazabamtype gst-register-0.8 at a command prompt04:31
Shuddertrixcomment out backports, sudo apt-get update, then try again04:31
Mysteryi use xine not gstreamer04:31
James686now when I download the .iso image of Ubuntu, do I need a program to open up the file to see the files in it and then burn it to CD?04:31
jmjonesMystery: you need libdvdcss and w32codecs04:31
jmjonesyou can't get them in the main repos04:32
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James686or do I just copy the file to the CD?04:32
jmjonesbulletproof: what did you do around the time/before you couldn't upgrade/install?04:32
Mysteryif ubuntu doesn04:33
James686plz I need to know this I already screwed up 2 CDs04:33
Mysteryfucking small keyboard04:33
ShuddertrixJames686: You have to burn the .iso with a program that can open it (windows: alcohol 120, nero, linux: gnomebaker, k3b, etc.)04:33
Mysteryif ubuntu doesn't recognize the sound card, how do i manual set it up?'04:33
James686do I need to get a program to open the .iso file?04:33
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James686will Alcohol 52% do?04:34
ShuddertrixJames686: If it's the one that burns and not mounts, then yeah, that will work04:34
bulletproofjmjones: well orginally I tried to update firefox to version 1.04 but it stopped working - then i installed mozilla. I tried to reinstall firefox but I got errors as it said it couldn't overrite some firefox files from my previous installation. So I manualy dleted them and then mozilla stopped working too and I still couldn't install firefx :(04:34
jmjonesbulletproof: what do you mean manually deleted?04:35
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bulletproofI manually rm'ed the files it couldn't overwrite from the command line - I'm starting to regret that now04:36
RochaHello04:36
RochaI'm trying to install a network printer04:36
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RochaHow can I know if it uses SMB or CUPS ?04:36
jmjonesbulletproof: yeah - manually deleting package files is a headache.04:36
jmjonesRocha: is it your printer, or at work?04:37
Rochajmjones, at work04:37
virtualdbulletproof: try apt-get --reinstall install <package>04:37
Mysteryso there's no help :(04:37
jmjonesRocha: can you ask the sysadmin or the person it belongs to?04:37
Mysteryi got no idea how to get the sound to work...04:37
Mysterydamnit04:37
Rochajmjones, the sysadmin doesn't know04:38
jmjonesRocha: is it a printer attached to a windows machine?04:38
Rochajmjones, it's a woman04:38
jmjonesRocha: does it matter that it's a woman?04:38
mwesudo nohup rm -rf /04:38
Rochajmjones, no, but she doesn't understand anything about system administration04:38
Rochajmjones, i don't know if it's a windows machine04:39
adamhHas anybody here used Ubuntu's HostAP drivers? Do they work well? (I want to use a Prism2 card as a wireless access point)04:39
jmjonesRocha: then the problem is an incompetent sysadmin - not that she's a woman04:39
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Rochajmjones, if it is a windows machine, it uses smb right?04:39
Rochajmjones, yes, you're right.04:39
jmjonesRocha: if it's a windows machine, you should be able to setup a windows share and access it as a samba printer, yes.04:39
bulletproofjmjones virtuald: same errors (shall I paste)04:40
virtualduse pastebin04:40
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bulletproofvirtuald: no idea what that is04:40
virtualdhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl a site like that04:41
jmjoneshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:41
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luzbelitoi need to search a package with apt-get but i dont know how to do04:41
adamhluzbelito: apt-cache search [search terms] 04:41
bulletproofvirtuald: oh yeah - I know what you mean - but I ain't got a browser now - lol04:41
virtualdok04:42
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virtualduse #flood then :)04:42
Rochajmjones, she said she thinks it's a linux machine04:42
luzbelitoadam: i dont get any result04:42
Rochajmjones, but she doesn't know if it's using cups or smb04:42
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luzbelitoroot@lenin:/ # apt-cache search amsn04:43
luzbelitoroot@lenin:/ # apt-get search amsn04:43
luzbelitoE: Operacin invlida: search04:43
virtualdapt-cache search04:43
virtualdhmm04:43
luzbelitoyeah04:43
luzbelitoand amsn or 'amsn'04:43
luzbelitoor [amsn] 04:43
virtualdopen /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor04:44
adamhluzbelito: amsn is only in "universe" -- you'll have to uncomment some lines from /etc/apt/sources.list04:44
virtualdand uncoment the universe line04:44
virtualdsave and exit04:44
virtualdyou need root priviliges04:44
adamhluzbelito: Then run "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install amsn"04:44
luzbelitoyeah i has do it04:44
luzbelitoi catch it04:44
luzbelitolook04:44
luzbelitoa lot of results04:44
luzbelitozsh-doc - zsh documentation - info/HTML format04:44
luzbelitoavm-fritz-kernel-source - AVM Fritz! binary kernel module source04:44
luzbelitofglrx-control - Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators04:44
luzbelitofglrx-kernel-source - ATI binary kernel module source04:44
luzbelitolinux-686 - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.04:44
luzbelitolinux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.04:45
luzbelitolinux-k7 - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.04:45
luzbelitolinux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on AMD K704:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7-smp - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on AMD K7 SMP04:45
adamhluzbelito: Please don't copy/paste lots of lines on here. Paste to #flood instead04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-686 - Restricted Linux modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-686-smp - Restricted Linux modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-k7 - Restricted Linux modules on AMD K7.04:45
luzbelitolinux-restricted-modules-k7-smp - Restricted Linux modules on AMD K7 SMP.04:45
luzbelitonvidia-glx-dev - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver development files04:45
luzbelitonvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver04:45
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luzbelitoxorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators04:45
luzbelitoxorg-driver-fglrx-dev - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators (devel files)04:45
luzbelitonow how can i install kernel-sources????04:45
luzbelitoadam: ok, sorry04:45
adamhluzbelito: Don't bother installing kernel sources :)04:45
adamhluzbelito: But it'd be apt-get install linux-source-2.6.xx...04:46
bulletproofjmjones virtuald: http://pastebin.com/30781804:46
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khermansI can't do apt-get update, since I am behind a firewall -- i need to make proxy work with apt-get04:46
khermans?04:46
adamhkhermans: There must be settings for that in Synaptic, no?04:47
luzbelitoadam, but i try to install a driver and it says "error" because i need 'kernel-sources'04:47
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adamhluzbelito: What driver?04:47
khermansadamh, I'm using command line04:47
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luzbelitoeagle-usb-driver04:47
jmjonesbulletproof: that looks like fun04:47
virtualdbulletproof: remove backports from sources.list, run apt-get update, apt-get clean and then apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:47
bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?04:47
adamhluzbelito: It comes with ubuntu...04:48
adamhmodprobe eagle-usb04:48
bulletproofvirtuald: will give that a shot now04:48
luzbelitoyeah, but i want to use last version04:48
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luzbelitoisnt better ?04:48
jmjonesluzbelito: do you have a concrete reason to think it will be?04:48
adamhluzbelito: The Ubuntu mantra: "The version that ships with Ubuntu is always best" :)04:48
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adamhHas anyone here installed ubuntu on a flash drive?04:49
jmjonesadamh: hee hee - actually, the latest ati driver on ati's website is *almost* usable.04:49
Invisible_Maginot yet but i'd like too04:49
jmjonesadamh: thought about it...never tried04:49
luzbelitoi think is a little slowly the connection04:49
adamhjmjones: As long as ATI's drivers crash when I resume from suspend, I'm sticking with the free ones :)04:49
jmjonesluzbelito: have you google to see if anyone else has this problem with this version of the driver?04:49
luzbelitojmjones: i will04:50
jmjonesadamh: i can't get anything to come back from suspend - fglrx or the plain ati ones04:50
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jmjonesprobably need to check it out with the new fglrx ones from ati.....04:50
adamhjmjones: The plain ones work fine for me :)04:50
luzbelitoVelocidad de bajada en Kbps158,00 Kbps04:50
luzbelitoVelocidad de subida en Kbps40,00 Kbps04:50
luzbelitosorry04:50
luzbelitodont paste04:50
luzbelitosorry me04:50
jmjonesadamh: what vidio card you got04:50
khermansanyone know how to configure proxy for apt-get?04:50
adamhjmjones: Radeon Mobility 900004:51
luzbelitolook: for up: 40 kbps, download 158 (my connection is adsl 512/128)04:51
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adamhjmjones: Have you played with /etc/default/acpi-support? :)04:51
poningruwait are there new fglrx from ati?04:51
jmjonesadamh:  what driver are you using?04:51
jmjonesponingru: yeah04:51
greenlightsaberwhat happens if I download kdm in ubuntu? is that ok?04:51
adamhjmjones: Whichever one Ubuntu auto-detects :)04:51
mwewhat do I need to share my windows printer with my linux box, samba?04:51
bulletproofvirtuald: same error - removed by backports (mirror) from the repository list04:51
jmjonesthey work better than the ones in hoary, but still no there yet.04:51
adamhjmjones: I've got ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem, SAVE_VBE_STATE=true, USE_DPMS=true, and that's it04:51
jmjonesadamh: do glxinfo | more04:52
virtualdbulletproof: did you run both apt-get update and apt-get clean?04:52
jmjonesadamh: did you hack that or is that how it came?04:52
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adamhjmjones: I hacked it to enable ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem, it didn't come that way. Not sure about the rest04:52
adamhjmjones: But in general, for me, Hoary Just Worked :)04:52
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jmjonesadamh: i've hacked on a bunch of acpi stuff and can't get it working right.....04:53
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greenlightsaberdoes downloading kdm break ubuntu gnome?04:53
jmjonesthat and vertical scroll are the last two things i can't get working right04:53
adamhjmjones: I didn't touch any of that. (My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 600m, btw)04:53
jmjonesadamh: i've got the inspiron 930004:53
bulletproofvirtuald: yes m804:54
jmjonesadamh: i'll carry on hacking....04:54
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virtualdbulletproof: then there must still be a backports line in sources.ilst04:54
virtualdlist04:54
khermansif I want to specify startup environment variables, put them into bahrc or bash_profile?04:54
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Luakagonhey I want to put ubuntu on my grandmother's computer, she has 64 mb ram and a pentium ii processor04:54
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aeolist...04:55
golgorcan anyone tell me how to get the sound to work with nforce 2?04:55
jmjonesLuakagon: does she know you are trying to make a geek out of her?04:55
dabiis there any way to take panel and applets from kde to gnome? i have kubuntu installed04:55
samuelkany one know why ut2004 dont work for linux any more... says i have invalid key but i havent....04:55
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tbitehi. can anyone help me? im trying to get my netgear WG311T wireless network card working in ubuntu. i followed all the steps for updating madwifi on the first post of this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972 and everything seemed to work fine, but when i check the dmesg thing, its not saying ath_hal has been updated04:56
adamhdabi: You can use the applets which reside in the "notification area", but that's it.04:56
samuelksearched the internet many having the same problem04:56
dabiadamh: hmm but there must be some way to have kde panel on gnome...04:56
mweis samba what I want to share my windows printer with my linux box?04:56
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will_cathi everyone04:57
Poromiessamuelk: well if it says that "invalid key" or "key in use" then you have the wrong key or someone else is using your key to play or something04:57
will_catwhat can i do to be a ubuntu developer?04:57
bulletproofvirtuald: I just double checked the only uncommmented deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted04:57
adamhdabi: Oh, ew :). I don't know how KDE works, I can't say, but... what applet is so important that you'd run KDE's panel in GNOME for it?04:57
bulletproofvirtuald: and the security one04:57
Poromiesbut its not a linux problem, its ut2k4 problem04:57
virtualdhmm04:57
virtualdahh04:57
terrexwill_cat: read about MOTU into the wiki04:57
kotatsuAnyone here understand the interaction between gnome-font-properties and its associated gconf keys, and fontconfig/xft? I have a couple questions before I file a bug...04:58
will_catMOTU?04:58
virtualdbulletproof: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox firefox04:58
will_catwhere's that?04:58
samuelkporomies dont think there is... :( installed it on suse 9.204:58
terrexMasters of the universe04:58
terrexxd04:58
virtualdbulletproof: and firefox-gnome-support04:58
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luzbelitosorry, but i want to use dvd rw+- tools. i try to do apt-get install dvd... it says is installed but i can't execute. help please04:59
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dabiadamh: well actually there are many of them, but im trying to do it only to learn more... i already tried kdinit with klauncher but wont work04:59
adamhluzbelito: Can't execute what? What are you trying to do?04:59
luzbelitoadam: i want a program for burn dvd.04:59
adamhdabi: Metacity (GNOME window manager) complies to some FreeDesktop standards, I don't know if KDE's panel uses them05:00
adamhluzbelito: Just pop in a blank CD and a window comes up. Drag files onto it and go File -> Burn05:00
bulletproofvirtuald: k - what next? install firefox?05:00
luzbelitobut if it is a copyrighted dvd ? i mean, a movie05:00
Luakagonjmjones:no05:00
luzbelitoi need to compress it05:00
virtualdbulletproof: yes :)05:00
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luzbelitosomething like nero in windows i need05:01
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adamhluzbelito: Oh, you want to *rip* a DVD? I don't know all the tools, but start off by installing libdvdcss -- search the Ubuntu forums for "dvd" to find how05:01
bulletproofvirtuald: seems to be installing 8mb so will take a couple of minutes05:01
LuakagonI dont want her getting a virus and I want her computer to be faster05:01
luzbelitoadam: thanks05:01
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dbernar1hey! You can totally change which partition you mount to /home, right? and you would just change /etc/fstab really...05:02
adamhdbernar1: correct05:02
dbernar1ya, I thought so, thanks.05:02
dabiadamh: heh well i got kwin (KDE window manager) to gnome...05:02
adamhdabi: heh, what part of your system is actually GNOME then, at this point? The session manager?05:03
samuelkhow do install wine with apt-get?05:03
moeaim really confused here, my sources.list has one line in it, that i put myself, and its "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe"05:03
adamhsamuelk: apt-get install wine05:03
moeabut apt-get update fails totally05:03
adamhsamuelk: You may have to enable the "universe" repository, check /etc/apt/sources.list05:04
bulletproofvirtuald: intstalled okay - but won't load... I get t a "starting mozilla firfox " but then it don't load :(05:04
dabiadamh: well actually im not sure anymore :) it a mix, but i dont want to use only kde because it loads lame things what i dont need and cant close them...05:04
virtualdbulletproof: 8[05:04
virtualdi don't know what to do about that05:04
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adamhdabi: KDE and GNOME don't mix. You'll end up loading double the stuff you want.05:05
samuelkadamh how do i enable universe05:05
adamhsamuelk: Just uncomment the line with universe in it05:05
samuelkk05:05
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bulletproofvirtuald: maybe I could totally remove it again and install the bin manually - its such a pain in the arse05:06
virtualdheh :P05:06
bulletproofvirtuald: mozilla does the same thing05:06
virtualdmkay05:06
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jasoncohenhow do you open up UDP ports in firestarter? i can't seem to get my openvpn connection working (as a client) behind the firewall even if i i open up the port openvpn uses05:12
samuelkhow do i move a file to a other dir in console05:12
jasoncoheni opened the UDP port the client listens on05:12
jasoncohenbut i think it's opening the TCP port since i see no option for UDP05:12
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Aragorn_Guardianhi all05:13
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Seveashi05:14
Aragorn_Guardiani get ubuntu, hoary05:14
Aragorn_Guardianlive05:14
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Aragorn_Guardiancan i install ubuntu from it, in my hd?05:15
goldfishnope.05:15
goldfishyou need the install cd.05:15
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Aragorn_Guardianubuntu is a very good distro...nice job...05:15
Aragorn_Guardianhum...05:15
Aragorn_Guardianright...05:15
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youngcoderis there a way that i can assign password to folders?05:16
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Seveasyoungcoder, no05:16
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Seveasbut you can make them unreadable for others05:16
Aragorn_Guardianbut, can i assign a local folders for my "installed" packages, as on next reboot, things will be ease...05:16
youngcoderare there any progrmas that will allow me to do this?05:16
SeveasAragorn_Guardian, nope05:16
Seveasyoungcoder, no...05:16
Aragorn_Guardianhum...05:16
jacobAnyone up for at gnome-commander question ? TIA05:17
youngcoderlol05:17
nikkiaseveas, that's not quite true, there is a way you could do it...05:17
Seveasjacob, just ask :)05:17
Seveasnikkia, which question are you referring to.>?05:17
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nikkiaseveas, youngcoder's05:17
youngcodernikkia im listening05:17
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Aragorn_GuardianSeveas: once more...i can set the package cache dir?05:17
jacobthx... I have gnome-commander and xmms installed. however I can't get gnome-commander to open mp3's in xmms05:17
jacobI opens them in rythmbox05:18
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SeveasAragorn_Guardian, you can put all .deb files on a usb stick05:18
Seveasand install from there all the time05:18
samuelki must stay i like more and more ubuntu linux :D05:18
Seveasjacob, rightclick on an mp3 file and select properties05:18
goldfishUbuntu is going to take over the world!05:18
Seveasjacob, in that screen, rightmost tab 'Open with'05:18
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goohi05:19
nikkiayoungcoder, its a bit messy, and a pain to administer, but you could create an encrypted disk image on a loopback device, and set it a mount point on the directory you want 'password protected'05:19
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James686ok someone help me, I did what I was supposed to do, I downloaded Ubuntu to my desktop, I got Alcohol120% and burned the files from the .iso file to CD, and it STILL doesnt go to the setup upon boot, WTF!!!!!!!!!!05:19
goochecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! - what package am I missing here?05:19
Seveasnikkia, hmm, nice one05:19
James686WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?!?!?!05:19
SeveasI actually use that05:19
youngcodernikkia good idea05:19
SeveasJames686, for one, you're shouting05:19
Seveasstop that05:19
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jacobI've set that already...05:19
SeveasJames686, and check your bios05:19
James686Im sry but this is really ticking me off...05:19
samuelkjames686 did you burn it as a iso05:19
godsmokeJames686: is your cd-rom selected as a boot priority above your hard drives?05:19
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jacobIn gnome they open fine in xmms05:19
samuelkand check in bios05:19
jacobjust not in gnome-commander05:20
samuelkyou could also us boot disks05:20
James686I did! its set to check the CD rom drive first!05:20
goldfishJames686: is your bios set up to boot from the cd before the hard disk?05:20
goldfishk05:20
SeveasJames686, and STUPID! you should not burn the files from the iso05:20
Seveasyou should burn the iso05:20
James686oh yeah you know what thats what I did05:20
Seveasbecause otherwise of course the boot record gets lost...05:20
nikkiayoungcoder: it'd be even better if there was a GUI front end for the encryption prompt, somewhat similar to the GUI ssh-askpass stuff, then you could set it to automount and get a nice password prompt when you try to access the directory05:20
samuelkseveas not kind to say stupid to someone :D05:20
godsmokeJames686: is the cd spinning up, and lighting up during boot?05:20
James686I opened up Alcohol 120%, and I selected the ISO05:21
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Seveasnikkia, there will be in breezy :)05:21
James686yes05:21
ksmurf2 questions. 1> how do you setup a dynamic link to a directory (the drive is a vfat partition) and 2> when I hover my mouse over my music It doesn't let me listen to a sample.  How can I change that (70+gb of music that is badly organized)05:21
godsmokewell -- did you check the md5 hash of the iso?05:21
Seveasand I have a little shell/zenity script that does the password requesting :)05:21
youngcodernikkia that would be something.. i agree..05:21
James686the...wha?05:21
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Seveasksmurf, 1> ln -s /path/to/directory05:21
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Seveas2> make sure sox is installed05:22
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nikkiaseveas, tbh, what i really want in breezy.... is to have xinetd instead of inetd be the default :)05:22
godsmokemd5 hash -- it's an alphanumeric string that 'represents' the entire file -- if any modifications were made (say, from your internet connection screwing up the download) it will tell you05:22
SeveasJames686, then check your bios05:22
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Seveasmake sure it boots from cd before trying the HD05:22
James686my bios is fine05:22
kotatsudoes the general ubuntu bugzilla cover Breezy bugs as well, or should I file a bug elsewhere?05:22
James686it boots from CD05:22
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James686I even hear it act up05:22
SeveasJames686, then why do you tell us it didn't...05:23
youngcoderJames686, then u burned he boot disk incorrectly05:23
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James686no it does, but it doesnt g2 the setup screen it just boots right to Windows after that05:23
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SeveasJames686, do you see the grub screen?05:23
James686no05:23
Seveasthen it is just checking whether it can boot from cd, but is unable to05:24
Seveasso you burnt your CD wrong05:24
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James686how...05:24
Seveastry nero05:24
Seveasand the 'burn image' option05:24
youngcoderand verify that the .iso u burned is a correct file05:24
James686I tried to download it it said my trial has expired...05:24
nikkiaseveas, to be fair, on a few drives its impossible to burn a disk in a way that matches the md505:24
Seveasnikkia, doesn't matter, grub doesn't check the MD505:25
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youngcoderhe may have a corrupte .iso05:25
Seveasso i suspect alcohol burnt it wrong05:25
nikkiasorry, misread the md5 comment, thought you were talking about comparing the burnt md5 vs the one on the site05:25
James686I'll get it from LimeWire...this is the 4th CD I am gonna create for this...05:25
golgoranyone know why grub gives me an error if i have 2 discs plugged in?05:25
godsmokedon't get it from limewire05:26
godsmokethat's just not a good idea05:26
youngcoderlmao05:26
ksmurfSeveas sox is installed.....but still no05:26
youngcoderhaha05:26
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jacobSeveas: Didn't work... MP3's just open in rythmbox if executed from gnome-commander....05:26
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James686nowhere else to get it...05:26
godsmokethere's nothing wrong with the official ubuntu download source05:26
nikkiaknowing limewire, it probably isn't even a .iso, more likely porn masquerading as a .iso file :)05:26
Seveasjacob, maybe gnome-commander doesn't respect the nautilus settings05:26
luzbelitodid you know good .torrent sources?05:26
jacobyup - think so too - any suggestions ?05:27
golgorgrub gives me an errorcode and i cant boot up my computer if i go t2 disc plugged in, anyone know whats going on?05:27
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goldfishluzbelito: www.torrentspy.com05:27
Blue_Summerlo all05:27
Seveasgolgor, probably the order of disks is changed because of it...05:27
goldfishBlue_Summer: hello.05:27
Seveasand grub cannot handle that automagicaly05:27
youngcoderJames686, avoid P2P for any software in the future.. that is the best advice you will get today05:27
Seveasluzbelito, wrong channel05:27
James686then I cant get it anywhere else05:27
James686so Im screwed05:27
Seveasgoldfish, stop it05:27
godsmokeJames686: stop with this nonsense05:28
youngcoderno05:28
luzbelitothanks goldfish05:28
youngcoderlol05:28
godsmokeJames686: the official ubuntu sources are 100% fine05:28
godsmokewe didn't tell you to redownload it05:28
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godsmokewe told you to check the md505:28
godsmokehave you done that?05:28
Blue_Summerwww.torrentsearch.us05:28
James686but how can I install Nero from the Ubuntu site?05:28
geko_guys anyone knows how to enable irda05:28
geko_on a laptop?05:28
godsmokeJames686: you don't need nero05:28
SeveasBlue_Summer, we don't support copyright infringement in here05:28
Seveasstop it.05:28
goldfishSeveas: Sorry.05:29
Seveasksmurf, then maybe your mount options should be changed05:29
goldfishluzbelito: ask in #0-day-1337-warez05:29
James686thats what I have been tallking about, to get Nero, and yes I do need Nero, if Alcohol120% burnt it wrong05:29
godsmokeno, you don't05:29
godsmokealcohol burns fine05:29
James686ok, what can I get?05:29
nikkiajames, ahead's demo of nero is sufficient for burning a one-off, if you really need to. anyway05:29
youngcoderJames686, you are not listening05:29
James686well thats what I burnt the CD with...05:29
Seveasksmurf, does it work for other partitions?05:29
godsmokeyou don't """"need"""" anything05:29
godsmokeyou need to check the md5 of the iso05:29
godsmokefor the 50th time05:29
James686and I have been wondering how the hell do I do that???05:30
luzbelitothanks goldfish05:30
luzbelitogolfish: the channel is empty05:30
SeveasJames686, get an md5sum checker from download.com05:30
goldfishlol05:30
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goldfishluzbelito: haha sorry that was a joke, i thought you would know :)05:30
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goldfishhmmmm.05:30
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James686how do I know the MD5 code?05:31
SeveasJames686, get an md5sum checker from download.com <-------05:31
James686I got it already05:31
James686now I need a md5 code...05:32
Seveasthen read the instructions that come with it....05:32
Seveasmd5 codes are on the ubuntu download site05:32
Blue_SummerSeveas, i never said that he should download from it i just said the link.05:32
golgorseveas, sorry my answer is late but you thinks its ok if i just change the bootorder?05:32
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Seveasgolgor, you might need to edit the grub menu05:32
Blue_SummerSeveas, who said you cant get legal programs from that website anyway?05:32
Seveasi did05:32
nikkiaJames686: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS05:33
nikkiathere :)05:33
Blue_SummerSeveas,  well you can05:33
Mezo_O @ @Seveas05:33
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sam_Where is this synaptic smart upgrade thing located?05:33
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SeveasBlue_Summer, don't be a hypocrite please, you know as much as me that he was downloading illegal things...05:33
James686ok it says the codes do not match...05:33
James686now what?05:34
Seveasre-download.05:34
golgorSeveas, and how to do that then?05:34
James686do I change the code?05:34
youngcoderno05:34
ksmurfSeveas Sorry bout the notices and No it does not matter what partition I'm on05:34
SeveasJames686, you have to re-download the iso05:34
Blue_SummerSeveas,  ok but im still right.. I gave him the link because he was lookin for a torrent website, i gave him a torrent website, what he does on that wbesite is upto him and not my responsibility.05:34
James686that was the second time I downloaded it...05:34
luzbelitoalchemist are you there?05:34
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Seveasksmurf, hmm...05:34
Seveasgoes beyond my knowledge then, sorry05:34
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youngcoderJames686, download the Ubuntu official iso from their site05:34
monksterHi, I have a newbie question for anyone who is using ubuntu as a mail server...05:34
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SeveasJames686, and check the md5 sum BEFORE burning05:35
James686exactly what I did...twice...05:35
nikkiait might be an IE 'corrupting the download' issue05:35
Seveasgolgor, boot into Ubuntu without the disk that causes the errors plugged in and edit the menu to reflect the change you are going to make05:35
nikkiajames, try a different mirror, IE has issues with corrupting downloads occasionally if the mime-type is set to certain things05:35
golgorSeveas, yea i got that, but how to get into grub and edit?05:36
nikkiagolgor: there are grub-floppy and grub-cd images on the net that can be used to repair a grub install05:36
cmathesongolgor, check out /boot/grub/menu.lst05:36
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nikkiaor you could use the live-cd if you have one around05:36
Seveasgolgor, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:36
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James686wtf...the code is mismatched, I dont get it its exactly from the Ubuntu site!05:38
SeveasJames686, are you sure you are checking against the correct MD5sum?05:38
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James686probably not?05:39
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golgorok, how to edit it...05:39
James686it does have that code in the notepad05:39
Seveas:|05:39
Seveasnotepad is not an md5sum checker...05:39
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James686no I know I mean the Readme file05:40
Seveasgolgor, depends on what the new disk will cause, you probably need to change a lot of drive numbers oslt05:40
James686which opens notepad and tells me the code and then I select the .iso to see if its valid05:40
SeveasJames686, you lost me, wth are you doing..?05:40
nikkiaseveas, it would really be better for golgor to repair the grub install with the drives connected, that way he can see the effects of the drive05:41
James686I went to download.com, got the md5 checker05:41
nikkiaa grub-floppy or grub-cd image, OR a live-cd would work05:41
SeveasJames686, which one..?05:41
James686thats just what its called...05:42
golgoryou mean i should download the cd/floppy version and repair with the drives connected during boot?05:42
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inemoHelp!! installing ubuntu on a iBook and the installer has stopped on a totally blue screnn05:42
nikkiagolgor, yes, IMO05:42
inemowhat should i do?05:42
golgorok, you idea sound easier than Seveas so i go for it :P05:42
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Seveasgolgor, boohoo :'(05:43
Seveas;)05:43
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golgorSeveas, hehe :)05:43
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SeveasJames686, and what's the output of the md5sum checker when it checks your iso?05:45
poningruinemo: what installation step were you one before that happend?05:45
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inemothe one where it writes everything to the disk05:45
James686hold on its checking now05:45
inemoafter the network one05:45
James686ummm...what do I compare it to?05:45
poningruyou did install the ppc one right?05:45
inemoponingru: yup05:46
James686WinMd5Sum05:46
SeveasJames686, what is the output..?05:46
inemoforce rebooted it now, installing again05:46
James686what do you mean?05:46
Seveasargh...05:46
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James686what is the Md5 Sum?05:46
SeveasJames686, when you let the ms5sum checker check your iso it will say something like 811a1aec315dae0ceef5d8e62658487405:46
Seveasa long hex-string05:46
James686f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d084005:47
Seveasf6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d084005:47
Seveasthat is correct05:47
Seveasthe i386 install cd05:47
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James686then...why is it not working?05:47
poningruinemo: just start over then05:47
poningruthats all I can think of05:47
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Seveasbecause you either burnt it wrong or your pc cannot boot from cd...05:47
Seveasburn it at low speed05:47
gm78hey all. any people here had the unfortunate experience of using autopackage?05:48
inemoSeveas: its a mac05:48
Seveasand make sure you burn the iso05:48
inemoSeveas: ignore me05:48
gm78actually, replace unfortunate with horrible05:48
inemoponingru: i am05:48
Seveasinemo, lol :)05:48
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poningruso how many times has this happend?05:48
inemoponingru: me? once05:48
nikkiaseveas, it could even be *shudder* a PC that doesn't recognise that CD boot method :/05:48
James686thats exactly what I did and the burn speed is 48x05:48
lennarthow do I enable mp3 support in rhytmbox?05:49
SeveasJames686, burn it at 4x05:49
Seveaslennart: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support05:49
James686no it does, this is a dell, and I recover the computer through system reboot05:49
spartasJames686, when you put the cd in the drive, how many files are on the cd?05:49
SeveasJames686, burn it at 4x <------------05:49
lennartSeveas, thanks05:49
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linuxboyAnybody run an apt-proxy for an ubuntu network pc?05:50
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poningruwoah is that possible?05:50
frohwhy is  /etc/init.d/udev taking so long when i boot my vanilla 2.6.12 kernel?05:51
linuxboyponingru: were you talking to me?05:51
poningruyeah05:51
poningruanyone know where I can read up on that05:51
James686why would it miss those files?05:51
Seveasponingru, man apt-proxy05:51
linuxboyponingru: nafc... why can't you do it05:51
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poningruis that like creating your own repository?05:52
Seveasfroh, because you have no hotplug/grepmap bits in your kernel05:52
linuxboynope05:52
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Seveasfroh, that's one of the reasons to stick to ubuntu kernels..05:52
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gm78Nobodies used autopackage and can help me fix the mess it has left my system in? Well, too bad, piece of advice, avoid that god-awful thing05:52
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Seveaslol gm78 :)05:52
James686on Alcohol120, should I enable Buffer Underrun technology?05:52
frohSeveas: thanks05:52
dabihmm is there any program what kills an application by its name?05:53
SeveasJames686, why aren't you listening?05:53
Seveasdabi, pkill05:53
jmjonesdabi: killall?05:53
Seveaskillall is rude :)05:53
James686Im gonna burn it again under 4x!05:53
James686I heard you05:53
James686now should I leave that enabled?05:53
Seveasof course05:53
gm78Seveas, honestly, a great idea, but what a POS. it reset all of my menus so all the entries i had in there are gone and the ones i deleted are back, it removed a bunch of icons, certain apps won't launch anymore05:53
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Seveaswithou buffer underrun you can easily create coasters05:54
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frohponingru: http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/05:54
poningruthanks05:54
James686Write and Simulation, do I check both or just Write?05:54
Seveasgm78, ouch...05:54
Schereihi !05:54
poningruwrite05:54
frohponingru: google is your friend05:54
poningruno simulation05:54
James686ok05:54
SchereiCan anyone tell me if Games work on ubuntu05:54
poningruI googled man apt-proxy05:54
James686write method?05:54
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gm78Scherei, ull have to be a bit more specific than that05:54
Schereigames like EX Games Generals Zero Hour ?05:55
SeveasScherei, yes, linux games work on ubuntu05:55
Seveaswindows games might work with wine or cedega05:55
Schereik05:55
Seveasbut there are no guarantees05:55
golgornikkia, query :P05:55
Schereiwhere can i get wine from...05:55
gm78Scherei, cedega can help u run windows games, but it isnt that great of a solution if u ask me. sort of hit and miss05:55
James686which write methoiod should I choose?05:55
Seveasschasi, multiverse05:55
James686method*05:55
SeveasJames686, disk-at-once05:55
poningruScherei: stick to win for win games05:55
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Schereik05:56
othernoobhi, if i do alt+ctrl+f2 how do i get back to the first login(with kde+the app running) ?05:56
poningruthere are really awesome free games in linux05:56
Seveasothernoob, <alt><F7>05:56
othernoobponingru why should he?05:56
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gm78othernoob, ctrl+alt+f705:56
Schereithankx seveas05:56
James686DAO/SAO?05:56
SeveasDAO05:56
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James686it doesnt have that option05:56
poningruothernoob: because wine and cedega do not do a good enough job05:56
poningruatleast for me05:56
khermansI am getting GPG errors when I apt-get  update05:56
othernoobthanks Seveas and gm7805:56
Seveasthen DAO/SAO05:56
James686RAW DAO?05:56
khermansfor ftpmaster@ubuntu.com05:56
gm78othernoob, no problem05:56
Seveaskhermans, retry in an hour05:57
othernoobponingru: mmh, i can't complain about wine05:57
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khermansSeveas, what is the issue?05:57
poningruwell I can05:57
James686that one?05:57
poningruits crappy05:57
Seveaskhermans, this sometimes happens during an update of the archives05:57
poningruits not developed enough05:57
Seveascertain files are updated already, others not05:57
khermansSeveas, yea it was weird, cuz was working fine just a little bit ago05:57
Seveaskhermans, good chance that it again works fine already05:57
khermansSeveas, i tried it -- nope05:58
Seveasusually this lasts for a few minutes or less, sometimes up to an hour05:58
James686Rectify Sub Channel Data?05:58
khermansSeveas, what is the techncal reason?05:58
khermansJames686, CD burning?05:58
Seveaskhermans, works fine here btw...05:58
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James686should I choose that option or no?05:59
SeveasJames686, rest of the options are not that important05:59
khermansSeveas, tells me signature is invalid05:59
poningruplease dont pm dude05:59
khermansJames686, unless it is copy-protected, dont worry05:59
Seveaskhermans, technical reason: a new packages file is created, but the accompanying signature not yet, so you get the old signature for a new packages file05:59
Seveaskhermans, are you running hoary..?05:59
khermansSeveas, ahh...well could I be hitting a different mirror than you?05:59
khermansSeveas, yes06:00
James686ok Im burning it now, this is gonna take awhile...06:00
Seveaswhich mirror?06:00
James686it better work...lol06:00
khermansSeveas, i am not sure -- just hitting security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are having GPG errors06:00
Seveass.a.c is fine here06:00
Seveasu.a.u.c is the same as a.u.c which again is fine here...06:01
khermanssac or suc?06:01
Seveasodd06:01
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Seveass.u.c :)06:01
Schereiwhere can i get win for win games ?06:01
harold__Hello everyone.06:01
Schereiis there any cool site wirh regards to ubantu ?06:01
James686dude if this doesnt work...06:01
SeveasScherei, he meant: stick to windows for playing windows games06:01
SeveasScherei, wiki.ubuntu.com :)06:01
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harold__Anyone have experience with installing on an OldWorld PowerBook G3?06:01
Schereiahhh !06:01
Schereisilly me06:01
mcquaidhowdy06:01
khermansSeveas, could it be something else?06:01
James686all I had to do was to burn the .iso file that I downloaded to a CD right?06:01
harold__I'm installed; it's just not fully booting06:02
Schereiwhats the best wayto run dual os on one HDD ?06:02
Seveasharold__, afaik there are some documented attempts (successes) on the wiki06:02
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mcquaidi have a psx controller hooked up to my lpt port, where do i put this to be automatic? /etc/modules?06:02
SeveasScherei, making partitions...06:02
golgor3 partitions06:02
khermansmcquaid, LPT?06:02
harold__Seveas, thanks - I read that many times.  It helped me get this far (installed)06:02
Schereik06:02
golgorif youre going to use windows and linux06:02
Seveasmcquaid, if you know the module to load, indeed /etc/modules...06:02
mcquaidkhermans, printer port06:02
poningruScherei: http://www.sysresccd.org/06:03
poningruuse that06:03
poningruand in it06:03
James686I dont get why mine isnt working.........:-(06:03
mcquaidok i wasn't sure cause i don't need to just load the module but pass parameters as well to get both controllers working06:03
poningruqtparted06:03
harold__Folks, how do you login as root after you've first installed Ubuntu?06:03
khermansmcquaid, yeah i didnt know PSX controller could hook there!06:03
mcquaidwasn't sure if /etc/modules accepting putting additional params as well06:03
cmathesonharold__, just use sudo06:03
poningruharold__: sudo06:03
pmai_i got parcel from netherlands06:03
poningruwhat he said06:03
pmai_is it ubuntu cds?06:03
mcquaidkhermans, yep works like a charm even 2 of em ;)06:03
mcquaidscrew pc pads ;)06:03
Seveaskhermans, very odd, I just deleted all local lists and redownloaded them -- still ok06:03
pmai_i got parcel from netherlands, is it ubuntu cds?06:04
harold__I've typed "sudo"; shouldn't I be asked for a password?06:04
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Schereiany know conflicts between XP and ubuntu06:04
Seveaskhermans, try sudo rm  /var/lib/apt/lists/*06:04
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cmathesonharold__, yeah, just use your normal user's passwd06:04
poningruschasi: not really06:04
poningruerr06:04
pmai_hi06:04
SeveasScherei, no...06:04
inemoonce you've used ubuntu you won't want to go back to XP Scherei06:04
poningruScherei: not really06:04
Schereik06:04
pmai_anyone help me?06:04
poningrupmai_: ask your question06:04
inemopmai_: ask away06:04
SchereiThankx06:04
harold__That doesn't seem to be working; do you know how to edit the /etc/sudoers file?06:04
Seveasharold__, sudo remembers your password for about 5 minutes06:04
Schereiinstalling ubantu on my P3 now06:05
James686how long does it usually take for the Ubuntu diskts to arrive if you get them mailed?06:05
Seveasharold__, sudo visudo06:05
pmai_i got parcel from netherlands, is it ubuntu cds?06:05
SeveasJames686, a few weeks06:05
harold__Seveas, thanks - I'll be back in awhile06:05
Seveaspmai_, probably :)06:05
James686damn...I'll be in college!!!!!!!06:05
Schereihow well does it run on AMD64 ?06:05
James686SHIT!06:05
James686lol06:05
James686scuse my language06:05
jamey3no worry; FUCK06:05
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youngcoderJames686,  watch your language please06:05
James686lmao06:05
Seveaspmai_, the hoary cd's are sent from the netherlands06:05
James686awesome06:05
poningruScherei: pretty well06:05
Seveasjamey3, watch your language...06:06
jasoncoheni got openvpn working with firestarter. instructions for all vpn types are available here - http://www.fs-security.com/docs/vpn.php06:06
James686unlike the Opera cahtrooms...\06:06
James686chatrooms*06:06
inemodo you need net connection to install hoary on ppc?06:06
pmai_Seveas, it is 600g06:06
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Seveasjasoncohen, nice, do you mind if I copy that to the ubuntu wiki..?06:06
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Seveaspmai_, what is 600g ..?06:06
inemo600GB probably Seveas06:06
pmai_Seveas grams06:07
James686Im gonna check msconfig to see if I did anything to screw up the BIOS settings or whatever06:07
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CTHelp me plz. I suddenly have no soud on my computer....cant play music or anything..how can this be fixed?06:07
harold__Seveas, can dying PRAM cause alot of issues with booting up?06:07
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ilba7ri have nvu installed and now whenever i open a web page it opens with nvu. how can i change that so webpages are opened by firefox06:07
poningruCT: what did you do before the no sound?06:07
pmai_inemo i think it is bomb mail :{06:07
Seveasharold__, dying *RAM can cause all kinds of problems06:07
poningruilba7r: right click on it06:07
poningruon an html file06:07
CTponingru: hmm...nothing..??06:07
poningruso you just started up your computer and it lost sound?06:08
inemoponingru: seems to have gotten past that blue screen this time :D06:08
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harold__Seveas: I'm not certain my PRAM is dying, but I've had some evidence in OS 9 (date/time off)06:08
CTponingru: yup06:08
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Seveaspmai_, does it have an 'express mail' label and a 'schiphol' sticker?06:08
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mcquaiddang that didn't work06:08
Seveasor a 'schiphol' address06:08
khermansSeveas, clearing out the lists and redownloading seems to work! thanks!06:08
nightswimubuntu ships from .nl?06:08
khermansSeveas, any idea as to why this happened?06:08
ilba7rponingru i did that but do i have to do that every time i open an html file06:08
poningrunice06:08
Seveasnightswim, for hoary: yes06:08
Seveaskhermans, ENOIDEA06:08
poningruilba7r: no06:08
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nightswimoh lovely06:08
poningrugo to properties06:08
mcquaiddoh i see my error06:09
nightswimthat's where I live06:09
harold__Seveas, are you a juggler?06:09
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poningruand go to open with06:09
poningrunow click on firefox06:09
Seveasharold__, no :)06:09
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mindstormtook 8 weeks06:09
ilba7rponingru ok i did that06:09
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pmai_Seveas yes express mail06:09
poningrunow click close06:09
ShamblyHermityep 8 weeks or more06:09
poningruand it should now open in firefox06:10
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Seveaspmai_, and something with 'schiphol' on it..?06:10
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harold__Seveas, have you used BootX on a PowerBook?06:10
Seveaspmai_, if not, what is the address on it?06:10
ksmurfI figures my problem with the sound. now I just need a soulution. anyone know how to scan my mp3 for bitrate info?06:10
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James686dude if this doesnt work next time Im gonna fuckin flip out!06:10
Seveasharold__, I never used a PPC myself06:10
harold__Seveas: Thanks06:10
ShamblyHermitand I was just getting comfortable with my Bambloo install :(06:10
ilba7rponingru ok i did that and the default is still nvu i am asking how to change the default to firefox06:10
pmai_Seveas on parcel only wrote from Netherlands06:11
James686is Ubuntu TRULY an open source OS?06:11
harold__Seveas (or anyone): When booting from ()S 9, am I supposed to choose initrd.img in BootX?06:11
ilba7rponingru when i get mail through hotmail and use gaim to open the mail box it is automatically opened by nvu and i hate that06:11
goldfishJames686: emm, linux is.06:11
Seveaspmai_, good chance that it are the Ubuntu cd's06:11
Seveaspmai_, how much did you order?06:11
sam_has anyone been able to upgrade acroread?06:12
youngcoderJames686, i will ask again please watch your language!!!06:12
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sam_it says that my libgcc1 version is too low or something06:12
CTI want to remove some applications on my compyter. But, when I select the add/remove programs from the menu, the list of programs wont show. It`s seems that hi`s trying to load the list, but I can wait forever, and nothing comes up. How can this be fixed? Is there another way for me to remove the applications?06:12
pmai_Seveas i ordered last year (about 4 to 10 CDs)06:12
Seveassam_, if you use acroread from hoary-extras, you need libgcc from hoary-backports06:12
poningruilba7r: I dont think you followed my directions06:12
poningruilba7r: right click on an html file06:13
James686sry I thought cursing was allowed here I apologize06:13
Seveaspmai_, that's a correct weight and shipping method, if it is a white bubblewrap envelope it's the Ubuntu CD's06:13
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poningruilba7r: click on properties06:13
poningruand then click on the open with tab06:13
poningrunow make sure that the little circle by firefox is highlighted06:13
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ilba7rponingru got it i must have missed some of your typing thank you my friend06:14
golgorhow to "find" a new harddrive, checked the wiki but its about repartition it and i already got stuff on the disk i want06:14
kev0rAnyone here know how to get Openoffice spreadsheat to hold the text within the lines?06:14
Seveasgolgor, mount it..06:14
kev0ror give an Enter in a box06:14
sam_Seveas, how can i tell if my acroread is from hoary-extras? And how can i get libgcc from hoary-backports?06:14
pmai_Seveas Thanks, i will go to take it tomorrow (about 15km )06:15
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Seveassam_, apt-caceh policy acroread06:15
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Seveassam_, apt-cache policy acroread06:15
harold__Seveas: When I boot (or attempt to), my the video is displayed multiple times on the screen.  Any idea what's going on there?06:15
poningruSeveas: what is that gui thing for mounting disks?06:15
ksmurfI figures my problem with the sound. now I just need a soulution. anyone know how to I canscan my mp3 for bitrate info?06:15
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Seveasponingru, ENOIDEA06:16
Seveasharold__, faulty framebuffer perhaps06:16
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sam_500 http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages06:17
Lambda-Hey guys, recently i ordered some ubuntu cds online and i am yet to recieve them :(  how long do they usaly take ?06:17
Seveassam_, so you need to enable hoary-backports to get the good libgcc06:17
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SeveasLambda-, several weeks06:17
Lambda-hmm, its been about 306:17
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harold__Seveas: Also, it never completes the boot process, as it repeatedly scrolls the following: "Configuing the base system...info: Switching console charset mapping to ISO-8859-1"06:17
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djpcan you play gnu chess without the need for xboard?06:18
Seveashardcampa-, sounds like a bad framebuffer to me06:18
hardcampa-..06:18
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Seveasharold__, find some mac gurus for details and fixes :)06:18
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doctor_salviahola06:19
harold__Seveas: Okay, thanks06:19
harold__Any Mac gurus here?06:19
James686ok, wish me luck, its done bein burned, Im gonna restart06:19
gorthIm having some trouble with my soundcard (intel8x0). Which component should I report this to in bugzilla?06:19
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inemoJames686: good luck, mines just finishing installing :)06:20
harold__Seveas: One more question: After typing sudo and then my password, I'm getting "login incorrect".  Perhaps it's not entered in /etc/sudoers?06:20
Seveasharold__, the user you creat when installing is in sudoers06:21
Seveasno others are by default06:21
ksmurf Anyone know how to I can scan my mp3's for bitrate info? There is no info attached to them06:21
adwaithola ppl06:21
ksmurfheyya adwait06:21
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Seveasksmurf, mpg321 filename.mp306:21
adwaitmpg321: won't tht just show the info written on the file06:22
harold__Seveas: I'm able to login using me username/password, but it's not granting me sudo access.  Any ideas?06:22
sam_Can I have multiple versions of the libgcc package installed?06:22
Seveasharold__, did you do a server install..?06:22
Seveassam_, no06:22
doctor_salviami nestisto mascelino jugo06:22
harold__Seveas: No, I don't *believe* so.  It was  automatic install.06:22
sam_So if I install it from a backport repository it might mess up dependencies for other packages?06:23
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Kyralno06:23
doctor_salviasi si si06:23
Seveassam_, i'm using that package, works fine.06:23
harold__Seveas: In other words, for new (unexperienced users)06:23
Seveasdoctor_salvia, we speak english in here...06:23
chrissturmanyone else having a signal 11 with breezy xorg packages?06:23
sam_Seveas, but it could potentially cause trouble?06:23
Seveaschrissturm, breezy is unstable, especially X is broken06:23
harold__Seveas: In other words, I chose the automatic installation, though I manually partitioned.06:24
Seveassam_, this package not :)06:24
Seveasharold__, hmm, ok then the user you created has to be in sudoers06:24
Seveasdid you create a root account?06:24
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chrissturmseveas: i know. i run it on several systems :)06:24
Shadowpillarevolution06:24
Shadowpillares menu class init06:24
Shadowpillar(evolution:25873): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration06:24
harold__Seveas: No, i did not create a root account.  how do i do so?06:24
Shadowpillarget that when starting evolution06:24
Shadowpillargreat06:24
Shadowpillarcant read my own email06:24
golgorseveas, how to mount then... i did try and i got "mount: /dev/sdb is already mounted..."06:25
harold__Seveas: You rule!06:25
Seveasharold__, boot into recovery mode and type the command passwd06:25
harold__Seveas: Again: You rule!06:25
golgorseveas truly are the hero here :)06:25
chrissturmShadowpillar, did you try if it works after a fresh login?06:25
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harold__Seveas: Now, how do I boot into recovery mode?06:25
Seveasgolgor, paste the output of mount && sudo fdisk -l on the pastebin please06:25
Seveasharold__, hmm, on i386 grub shows a menu when booting, doesn't yaboot do that too?06:26
Shadowpillarchrissturm: any better advice?06:26
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golgori got the swedish version so its in swedish some of it06:26
chrissturmShadowpillar, it seems that it cant connect to bonobo06:26
SeveasShadowpillar, did you try what he said already..?06:26
harold__Seveas: I'm using BootX; it doesn't show a menu, but I drop into the console through a keyboard command.06:27
Shadowpillarno, because I have some stuff running that I dont want to restart06:27
harold__Seveas: Then I can login as a user, but not a root.06:27
adwaitharold_: i believe u can do that from grub06:27
Shadowpillar*sigh* I'll try it06:27
Seveasharold__, if bootx can edit kernel command lines, add the word single to the kernel command line06:27
lukus001How do i install the codecs properly? i done what the guide at ubuntuguide.org said, but w32codec dont seam to be installed as real player and every other player isn't playing the video files06:27
harold__Adwait: Thank you, but I'm not using grub, as I'm using BootX06:27
harold__Seveas: It can.  I'll do that.06:28
harold__Seveas: Thank you.06:28
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sam_Seveas, isn't it kind of an emergency solution to get packages from these backports repositories though?06:28
Seveassam_, well you do it for acroread too :)06:28
harold__Seveas: My goodness, I can't even reboot (since it won't grant me root access).06:28
adwaitharold_: well u said u can edit boot options..........so make the run level 106:28
Seveasharold__, hmm.....06:28
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adwaiti think thts single user mode right?06:29
harold__Adwait: Thank you.  I'll try that, as soon as I can figure out what that is.  :)06:29
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harold__Seveas: Well, I can force restart, but is there another way to reboot without root access?06:29
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sam_Seveas, I did? You mean the hoary-extras repository is an emergency solution too?06:29
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adwaitharold_: at command prompt type sudo init 106:29
Seveassam_, hoar-extras is part of the backports project :)06:29
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Seveashoary-extras*06:29
sam_Oh, I see.06:30
Seveasadwait, he cannot use sudo06:30
harold__Adwait: That's my problem; it won't let me in as sudo.06:30
lukus001can somone help me with my codec issues please? i've sudo apt-get installed all of the video codecs, set up mozzila & real player but real player says it lacking the ability to play back the file06:30
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gm78Seveas, lol, u know that menu thing with autopackage? i just spoke to the lead developer, it was my fault. i accidentally deleted ~/.local/  other than menu settings, what is all stored there do u know?06:30
ksmurfSeaves that worked great But I'm lloking for something that will scan all my mp3's and find the tags for them......06:30
harold__Adwait: How do I exit vim?06:30
HajuuHey uhm.. How can I resize my primary ubuntu partition?06:30
HajuuThrough linux06:30
adwaitharold_: well in ur bootloader, if u can edit the boot command line, just add a "1" at the end of the line.....and ull boot in to sings user mode06:30
golgorSeveas, you got query with my commands.06:30
SeveasHajuu, boot from a live cd and use gparted06:30
adwaitharold: press Esq and then type :q to quite w/o saving06:31
Seveasgolgor, i'll check, hang on06:31
adwaitharold: press Esq and then type :wq for saving06:31
adwaitand quitting06:31
harold__Adwait: Thank you; I'd forgotten that.06:31
adwaitnp06:31
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harold__Seveas and Adwait: Thanks for you help; I haven't used Linux in about 6 months. (and was a new user anyway)06:31
Seveasgolgor, how did you try to mount that drive..?06:32
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golgorpasted my command last...06:32
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golgorSeveas, sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/rarshare_4 -t ntfs06:32
Seveasgolgor, he rofl, missed that :)06:32
nikkiaksmurf: i use kid3, but its a KDE app06:32
golgor:)06:32
Seveasbut that's not gonna work :)06:32
Seveasit's sdb5, not sdb06:32
gm78Does anyone know what is all stored in $HOME/.local ?06:33
Seveasgm78, a lot06:33
Seveasgm78, a lot of configuration files like menu entries06:33
Seveas(hit enter too early)06:33
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Shadowpillarnope06:34
golgorSeveas, looks ok or whats the problem?06:34
Shadowpillarevolution is still broken06:34
ShadowpillarGREAT06:34
ShadowpillarJUST GREAT06:34
Shadowpillares menu class init06:35
Shadowpillar(evolution:26917): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration06:35
harold__Seveas: I hope you're getting paid06:35
Seveasgolgor, sdb5 is the partition you can mount, sdb not06:35
Seveasharold__, i'm not (not for this support at least)06:35
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harold__Seveas: Good news - typing "single" into BootX seems to have worked!06:35
Shadowpillarcan anyone help me?06:35
golgorSeveas, ok ill try that06:35
SeveasShadowpillar, did you remove bonobo from your system?06:35
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Seveasharold__, good to hear that06:36
harold__Seveas: So I'm finally root!06:36
ShadowpillarSeveas: no06:36
ShadowpillarSeveas: why should I?06:36
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harold__Seveas: So now I've got to remember what I need to do.06:36
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harold__Seveas: Perhaps I should apt-get update or upgrade?06:36
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Seveasharold__, if you created a root account you can now simply use su and add yourself to the sudoers06:36
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ShadowpillarSeveas: why do I have to delete bonobo?06:37
harold__Seveas: Yes, I'll do that first.06:37
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SeveasShadowpillar, somehow bonobo has stopped working, so i though maybe you deleted it06:37
Seveasyou shouldn't delete it ;)06:37
SeveasShadowpillar, run throuhg /var/log/messages and check for bonobo errors06:37
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harold__Seveas: I'll be reading the visudo man for awhile.  Thanks for everything.06:37
golgorok seveas, one last questiong than im a happy linux newbie, how to get access to it06:37
ShadowpillarJul  4 18:44:41 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x0 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '06:38
ShadowpillarJul  4 18:46:46 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x2 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '06:38
golgorSeveas, i can access it as root in terminal but not in gnome with my other user06:38
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harold__Adwait: Just to report, I've been able to login as root by adding the term "single" to my bootloader (BootX).06:39
Seveasgolgor, you need some mount options06:40
Seveasgolgor: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically06:40
Seveas...and usable06:40
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adwaitharold_: ok good......well then add the username tht u normally use to the sudoers list..thn ull be able to use sudo06:41
harold__Adwait: Thanks, I'm working on that.06:41
adwaitharold_: k...no06:41
adwait*np06:41
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harold__Adwait: How do I exit a man page?06:42
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graungaarddooh06:42
harold__Adwait: nevermind06:42
Seveas[Esc]  or [q] 06:42
Shadowpillarcan anyone help me?06:43
golgorSeveas, how to run it, from terminal? what command? :$06:43
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yarlahhi06:43
yarlahi need help06:43
golgorshoot06:44
yarlahhow do i uninstall programs06:44
harold__Seveas or Adwait: What needs to be added to the /etc/sudoers file?  Currently it displays my username (as added by the Ubuntu installer) and root, but no sign of sudo.  Do I need to literally add "sudo" as a user?06:44
sam_Seveas, i got into trouble when adding "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to my sources.list06:44
hdpyarlah, synaptic06:44
golgorin synaptic packet manager06:45
hodgmanhello, I can't remember the name of the program in linux that is basicly the replacement for winamp ?06:45
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Seveasharold__, does it say   your_name (ALL)=ALL06:45
Seveasor something like that?06:45
harold__Seveas: Exactly.06:45
sektorxmms or something hodgman?06:45
Seveasharold__, odd, then sudo should work for you...06:45
djphodgman: xmms?06:45
hodgmansektor: yeah thats it06:45
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harold__Seveas: Yes, I guess.06:45
adwaitharold_: wht error message does sudo give?06:45
linuxworldhodgman: beep ?06:45
hodgmanhad a brain fart :) thanks06:45
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sektorbut i believe xmms doesn't support mp3 any more06:45
golgorSeveas, how to run that winmac_fstab?06:46
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Seveasgolgor, sudo bash winmac_fstab06:46
Seveassektor: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound06:46
hodgmanI remember there was a plugin or something to play mp3's for xmms06:46
harold__Adwait: I don't recall exactly...(trying to remember).06:46
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harold__Adwait: ...hold on...06:46
Seveashodgman, xmms plays mp3's by default06:46
hodgmanok06:46
lukus001should i install amd64-lib if im running ubuntu 32 bit, with my amd althon 64?06:47
harold__This is messed...06:47
yarlahthx guys06:47
josefgreetings from a swedish user, new at irc06:47
sektorthe command for opening an ssh session is just ssh right?06:47
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harold__Adwait: Oh well, sudo *should* be working, but it's not.  Perhaps I can fix it by fixing my installation?06:48
Shuddertrixsektor: ssh user@hostname06:48
jmjonessektor: or ssh -l <username> hostname06:48
adwaitharold_: well whts the error message it gives would be a clue to why it isnt working06:48
highvoltagesektor: ssh followed by hostname or ip address, for client side.06:48
sektortnx06:48
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adwaitanyway..hey.....ppl are waiting for me for dinner....so ill brb06:48
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jmjonessektor: or ssh -l <username> -L<localport>:<remoteserver>:<remoteport> hostname06:48
lukus001Should i AMD64-lib if im running ubuntu 32 bit on amd athlon64 anyone?06:48
highvoltage(assuming you want to log on as the same user, otherwise it is ssh username@hostname(06:49
lukus001install*06:49
Seveasharold__, if it won't work, ping me in an hour :)06:49
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harold__Seveas: Thank you, I will06:49
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poningrulukus001: yeah I would say so06:49
poningrubut may experience problems if the rest of your hardware is not common06:49
ksmurfnikkia I tried it but no go..... It is like my mp3 all lost there tags06:50
harold__Adwait: I'll give you that..06:50
graungaardhow do i get a list of all channels on freenode with X-Chat?06:50
ksmurf*thier06:50
ksmurf*their06:50
lukus001poningru, so it wont mess my system up or convert my system to 64bit? it'll just give better performance from my 64bit amd?06:50
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harold__Adwait: I'm rebooting to get back there.06:50
poningruit will convert your system to 64bit06:50
nikkiaksmurf, congrats then, you get to spend hours putting the info back in :/06:51
lukus001oh, i dont want that then =)06:51
poningruwhy not?06:51
linuxworldgraungaard: type /list06:51
Will__Anybody got a decent 'How to act in a #linux' link?06:51
poningrugraungaard: right click on the window06:51
highvoltage06:51
graungaardlinuxworld: thx06:51
poningruand window->channel list06:51
Shadowpillar-(tsunami@monolith:1)-(63 files:52M@~)-(0 jobs)-(09:55)-06:51
Shadowpillar-(~:$)-> evolution06:51
Shadowpillares menu class init06:51
Shadowpillar(evolution:27390): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration06:51
lukus001poningru, i just downgraded from 64 bit thats why lol06:51
highvoltageWill__: the #linux's i've seen are usually not recommended06:51
poningrulukus001: which distro?06:52
Will__highvoltage: ?06:52
harold__Adwait: still booting...06:52
lukus001poningru, ubuntu horay 5 or somin??06:52
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poningrulukus001: what other distro are we discussing here?06:53
harold__adwait: I'm in...06:53
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harold__adwait: So, when I type "sudo" at the prompt...06:53
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harold__adwait: ...I'm prompted for the Password...06:54
harold__adwait: Which I carefully type...06:54
lukus001poningru im just on about the 32bit ver and 64 bit version of hoary... i downgraded from 64 bit the otherday - i just looked in synaptic for amd to see if there would be any file for a performance boost06:54
harold__adwait: ...and it returns, "Login incorrect."06:54
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harold__adwait: Yet I can login using my username with the same password.06:54
harold__adwait: I wonder what gives?06:55
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James686ok, I got the setup working06:55
Mattiashey harold, we have the same problem :D06:55
MattiasI think ;)06:55
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ShadowpillarFUCK06:55
Shadowpillarcan someone help me?06:55
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harold__Mattias: What's going on with your login?06:55
poningrucant help you with that06:55
Shadowpillarevolution06:55
Shadowpillares menu class init06:55
Shadowpillarevolution-shell-Message: Killing old version of evolution-data-server...06:55
Shadowpillar(evolution:27550): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration06:55
zookoGreetings, people of #ubuntu!  I have gotten sucked into breezy (c compiler stuff) and now I can't (re-) install mplayer from marillat.  Any suggestions?06:56
zooko06:56
Mattiaswell, I dont even know the root password :P didnt say anywhere and I coulnt type anyone in anywhere in the installation.06:56
ShadowpillarMattias: no root pass by default06:56
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ShadowpillarMattias: sudo -s06:56
Mattiascould explain much :D06:56
ShadowpillarMattias: and your user pass06:56
Shadowpillarfor a root shell06:56
Mattiasthanks06:57
Shadowpillarroot password disabled for security reasons06:57
James686I have a installation CD for my wireless card upstairs on the computer where Im currently installing Ubuntu, so will it be easy to get it working?06:57
josefzooko , breezy shouldnt be used with marillat or other repos06:57
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MattiasI do have another problem though, when I try to start X I get a return that say that I dont have any devices configured/present so X dies. Checked xorg.conf and my graphiccard is there (Ati Radeon X800 XL).06:57
harold__Shadowpillar: How do you enable it, then?06:58
josefjames686 ,  the install cds with cards , doesnt have drivers for our lovely ubuntu06:58
Shadowpillarharold__: you really shouldnt, since sudo and your own pass will suffice and give you root priveledges06:58
GerrathJames686, What wireless card do you have?06:58
Shadowpillarharold__: or when you need root access on an app, just put in your pass06:59
poningruJames686: installation cd is most likely for a win installation06:59
Shadowpillarharold__: usually just do sudo -s06:59
harold__Shadowpillar: Thanks - and your "sudo -s" trick has gained me root access; thanks!06:59
James686LinksysWireless-G06:59
Shadowpillarharold__: if you need a root shell06:59
James686so I wont be able to have the internet now???06:59
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GerrathJames686, do you have the model number?07:00
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James686must be on the card so I could say yes07:00
josefjames , if you cant get wireless work, use cable and after complete install , you are more lucky to get it working07:00
harold__BRB07:00
nikkiagerrath, won't help much... linksys are one of those brands that change chips almost weekly07:00
nikkiagerrath, some are supported, some aren't, etc07:00
James686or the model number for the wireless router?07:00
neospyCan someone help me to get Splashy working?07:01
josefagree with nikkia07:01
James686I cant run cables through the ceiling in this house, thats why I have wireless!07:01
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Gerrathnikkia, you can acually look on the pci bus in linux and get the info needed to find the correct driver,07:01
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James686I dont like wireless but I dont have a choice07:01
poningruJames686: they are talking about temp cabling07:01
poningrufor the installation07:01
nikkiagerrath, yes, i know that, but 'the model number of the card' tells you nothing where linksys is concerned07:01
nikkiagerrath, they sell various wireless chips with the same card model number07:02
poningruor do you already have ubuntu installed with all the packages?07:02
James686like cables to get the installation files from this computer to the other?07:02
Gerrathnikkia, it can if you have the firmware rev to go with it which I believe they put on the box now, or at least they did with mine.07:02
joseflike I said, some chips on wireless is a dream on linux *BSD, but the manufacturers change chips like undervear07:02
James686yeah Ubuntu is already installed07:02
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Gerrathnikkia, but your right, in the end it is easier to check after the fact by looking at the pci bus ;)07:02
James686well, might be still installing...brb07:02
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golgoranyone familiar with the drivers to nforce 2?07:03
golgori cant get my sound to work properly07:03
nikkiaand lspci might not tell you anything anyway, since most wireless cards are just a PCI<>PCMCIA bridge + PCMCIA wireless07:03
nikkiaand PCMCIA cards don't show up in lspci07:04
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harold__How do I access this IRC chat from the console/07:04
harold__?07:04
chrissturmharold__, irssi07:04
golgoruse irrsi07:04
golgorirssi07:04
josefgolgor, nvidia has a binary files for their chipset at their homepage07:04
harold__Thank you07:04
inemoirssi.org harold__07:04
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golgorjosef, i know... i download the tar.gz as there arent any .deb but when i "make" it gives me an error07:05
harold__Can I have two consoles open, one for the chat and the other for whatever else?07:05
neospyCan someone help me to get splashy installed?07:05
nikkiagolgor: use the .run07:05
josefok, sorry cant help you further, sitting on SIS chipset07:05
Schereihow do i load my HP PSC 500 Printer in Ubuntu07:06
golgornikkia, ?07:06
nikkiagolgor, there should be a .run file available for the nforce drivers07:06
nikkiagolgor: i've never had any problems getting those to run on debian and debian-like systems07:06
golgorafter unpacked to a dir called nforce?07:06
harold__Anyone: Would apt-get upgrade or apt-get update fix an incomplete installation?07:07
neospyScherei: go to system, administration, then printing07:07
Schereik07:07
nikkiagolgor:  no, i mean a .run file you can download from nvidia's site07:07
nikkiait's a shell script (basically a glorified modern shar file)07:08
golgornikkia, where do you find those drivers, are they for nf2?07:08
neospythen click new printer07:08
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josefhttp://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_50007:08
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nikkiagolgor: on nvidia's web site, by following the links for drivers07:08
golgorah ok... i found another page with the linux drivers for nforce, ill try that one07:08
golgornikkia, thanks07:09
nikkiagolgor: see, for example, the first link on this page: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0301.html07:09
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Schereithankx, neospy...07:09
neospyScherei:  after that its pretty straightforward07:09
neospyScherei: np07:09
nikkiaits a .run file, you run it with 'sh' as root, and it installs the drivers07:09
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Fulghey07:10
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Fulgsomebody can tell me where can i find some docs/howto`s about NUT (Network UPS Tools)07:10
poningruis that guy with the wireless installation still need help?07:10
poningruhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4369007:10
poningruJames686: if you are still ther07:11
gorthCan you do something like lilo -R in grub?07:11
James686back so since my wireless router and card is for Windows PCs, I wont be able to have the internet on the one with Ubuntu?07:11
Seveaswhat does lol -R do?07:11
nikkiaSeveas: iirc, sets the image to boot on the next reboot07:11
golgornikkia, i get an error07:11
nikkiaSeveas: very useful, as you can script a dual-boot07:12
Gerrathnikkia, after you use lspci to find the pci identifier then you use lspci -n to find the unique ID.07:12
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Seveasnikkia, Ubuntu can do savedefault07:12
Seveasand you can specify default: saved07:12
nikkiagerrath, that isn't going to work if the card doesn't show up in lspci, which a pcmcia wireless card will not07:12
Heimdallwhat is the best tool for ubuntu, to download binaries on newsgroups ?07:12
golgornikkia, the installation cant find any precompiled kernel interface07:12
nikkiaall that will show up is the bridge controller07:12
poningruJames686: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4369007:12
neospyDoes anyone know how to install splashy07:12
Fulgsomebody can tell me where can i find some docs/howto`s about NUT (Network UPS Tools)07:12
Gerrathnikkia, good point.07:12
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nikkiaSeveas: savedefault isn't quite the same tho07:13
oshWhat's the command to find out what package contains the wx-config file? "apt-cache search" and then what? search only appears to find packages...07:13
josefjames686 look at poningru s link07:13
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Seveashmm, ok07:13
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Seveasapt-file search wx-config07:13
nikkiaSeveas: savedefault will change it, until you change it again07:13
nikkiaSeveas: lilo -R affects *1* boot, the next one07:14
Seveasah ok07:14
oshSeveas: Ahh, apt-file. Didn't know of that one. Thanks.07:14
Seveashmm, ENOSUCHTHING then07:14
nikkiaSeveas: its a nice feature that grub is lacking :/07:14
comforteaglewhat is the berkeleydb apt-get package called?07:14
nikkiaSeveas: maybe grub2 will feature something like it, who knows07:14
golgornikkia, are you familiar with the error: "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel"07:14
Heimdalldon't tell me 'pan' ....07:14
Gerrathnikkia, so your pretty well out of luck with the laptop (PCMCIA)?07:14
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nikkiagolgor, yes, it means you need the kernel headers to build the modules07:14
Seveasnikkia, grub2 will offer lots of things07:14
Seveasbut it should have been heer long time ago...07:15
golgornikkia, and how to do that?07:15
SeveasHeimdall, pan07:15
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nikkiagolgor, you'll need to download the .debs for the linux-headers packages manually, put them on a CD and carry them to the PC that way, i suspect (since i'm guessing the PC in question isn't online as it has no ethernet drivers without the nforce drivers)07:15
HeimdallSeveas, lol don't tell me pan :)07:15
Gerrathnikkia, I was lucky with my laptop wireless since it had the firmware rev and hardware rev right on the network card..07:16
golgornikkia, im online with this computer (ubuntu) using another nw card07:16
HeimdallSeveas, I've tried it, and found it not very good...07:16
nikkiagolgor, ok, then easy, just install the linux-headers package via your favourite package manager :)07:16
HeimdallSeveas, thunderbind is worst for binaries...07:16
jasoncohennikkia, i have an nforce2 motherboard - asus a7n8x-x and my ethernet card was setup automatically. are you sure the kernel doesn't already have the driver needed?07:17
SeveasHeimdall, pan is not good at binaries indeed07:17
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HeimdallSeveas, which one is good so ? :-/07:17
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Seveasdunno, I only read text-only groups07:17
Schereineospy: I downloaded the nvidia Driver for my FX 5200. Now What do I do, How do i run it ?07:17
nikkiajasoncohen: never has been on any of the dozen or so nforce boards i've setup07:17
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HeimdallSeveas, ok okay... :-) but you know newsgroups can be a very good way for fast downloading07:18
nikkiajasoncohen: however, asus have a habit....07:18
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SeveasHeimdall, i know, but we do not support such things in here ;)07:18
nikkiajasoncohen: they love to take a chipset that has onboard LAN, disable it, and stick another brand LAN controller on the board07:18
SchereiI downloaded the nvidia Driver for my FX 5200. Now What do I do, How do i run it ?07:18
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nikkiajasoncohen: my asus i845, for example, has a disabled E1000, and an active broadcom ethernet :)07:18
mcquaidi was looking at python ide's. does anyone know why there is eric ver 3.6 and eric3 ver 3.4?07:18
HeimdallSeveas, of course, downloading linux free softwares etc... :)07:19
mcquaidis eric3 a rewrite or something?07:19
Gerrathschasi, you need to shut down the Xserver before installing the nvidia video driver..07:19
nikkiaactually, it might be an E100, i forget, either way, it has intel networking in the chipset, but disabled and replaced with the broadcom07:19
jasoncohennikkia, that's strange. aren't most ethernet cards detected and setup automatically with kernel 2.6? i didn't have an issue on a asus a7v8x-x, a7n8x-x or on my dell inspiron 8200 which has a 3com card07:20
nikkiajasoncohen: afaik, there is only binary drivers for the nforce07:20
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Gerrathctrl-alt-F2 will bring up a second terminal.. then you can do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  assuming your running the gdm display manager.07:21
James686hmmm this is gonna sound stupid but I accidently selected the wrong type of resolution during setup...07:21
James686how do I fix it?07:21
nikkiajasoncohen: as i said, there is a fair chance that asus have put 'a third party' ethernet chip on your A7N807:21
SeveasJames686: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:21
Gerrathschasi, this will kill your xserver so make sure your exited out of all apps before doing this.07:21
nikkiaespecially since its a -X, which usually indicates 'asus have fiddled with this'07:21
jasoncohennikkia, ok07:21
nikkiajasoncohen: a -X asus part number, usually signifies that it has a 3rd party ethernet, sound, and/or firewire07:22
Gerrathschasi, then type sh "the name of the nvidia install program" and follow the instructions.07:22
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jasoncohennikkia, how do i check what driver it's using?07:22
golgornikkia, do i need to reboot or something after installation?07:22
nikkiajasoncohen: in the case of my asus i845 '-X', all 3 are 3rd party, plus they slapped a SATA controller on for good measure07:22
golgori still dont get any soun07:22
golgord07:22
nikkiajasoncohen: lspci07:23
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James686How do I type in that command? I mean where?07:23
Frafrahi all07:23
Frafrax works on breezy?07:23
jasoncohennikkia, 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)07:23
chrissturmFrafra, sometimes07:23
Frafrachrissturm: i'm on breezy, but i'm using hoary's x07:24
Frafraif I upgrade x, it will works?07:24
nikkiajasoncohen: then i'm puzzled as to how you got drivers installed :)07:24
inemoGaH!07:24
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chrissturmFrafra, dunno, for me it works one one system and on the other it gives a signal 1107:24
jasoncohennikkia, how do i check what driver is being used. i'm not sure what module in lsmod corresponds to the nforce ethernet07:25
James686well?07:25
nikkiaahh, there is a reverse engineered nforce driver, that doesn't work with all nforce versions :)07:25
Frafraare there a guide that i can read if x will doesn't work?07:25
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nikkiajasoncohen: it'll be 'forcedeth' probably07:25
jasoncohenforcedeth              13440  007:25
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nikkiajasoncohen: might be worth checking to see if the binary drivers are better or worse07:25
James686hoiw do I change the resolution when Im not logged in?07:26
Specvim /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:26
Gerrathschasi, actually you could just follow the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver  I forgot about that site ;)07:26
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Seveasubuntuguide is crap07:26
Seveasschasi,Gerrath: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:26
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khermansAnyone know how to get my RADEON working with Xorg?07:27
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khermansits not on Ubuntuguide.rog07:27
jasoncohennikkia, well, i haven't had a problem so far- no reason to try to fix what's not broken. btw, i thought that kernel 2.6 supported most ethernet cards automatically. i guess i should check before buying a new motherboard07:27
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cmathesonis there a way to make it so that postfix re-writes my user name on mail going out?  i want it to look like mail is coming from cameron.matheson@foobar instead of cmatheson@foobar07:27
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nikkiajasoncohen: no, only what has a driver available, which is a sizable chunk of whats out there, but by no means 100%07:27
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GerrathSeveas, I personally never have used the guide but if it is crap why does abuntu link to it?07:28
Seveascmatheson, your mail program should be able to07:28
khermanscmatheson, you can do it muttrc MUA07:28
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SeveasGerrath, ubuntu doesn't07:28
James686seriously, how do I change it???07:28
James686Im stuck at the login screen07:28
cmathesonkhermans, i've changed my 'from' variable to 'cameron.matheson@foobar', but it doesn't seem to be respecting it...07:28
GerrathSeveas, I mean Ubuntu..typo07:28
jasoncohennikkia, i guess i've been lucky because everything has just worked for me on ubuntu- even my webcam07:28
jasoncohennikkia, in debian i had to compile the pwc drivers myself07:29
GerrathSeveas, it does: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/link07:29
khermanscmatheson, google muttrc07:29
Seveashmm07:29
James686????07:29
EiGHTBALLxhow do installe extra WMs?  (EG mac OSX imitation?)07:29
nikkiajasoncohen: that is a lot of luck :)07:29
cmathesonSeveas, by mail program do you mean postfix, or mutt?07:29
James686PLZ ANSWER ME07:29
SeveasEiGHTBALLx, KDE can do a pretty good MacOSX imitation07:29
Seveascmatheson, mutt07:29
cmathesonkhermans, ok. would it be different than the 'from' variable though?07:29
EiGHTBALLxcool07:29
jasoncohennikkia, and installing the nvidia drivers was trivial with linux-restricted-modules already installed07:29
SeveasJames686: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:29
cmathesonSeveas, ok, thanks07:29
EiGHTBALLxso i should apt-get kubuntu07:29
khermanscmatheson, MUA = mail user agent -- MTA = mail transfer agent -- postfix is MTA, mutt is MUA07:29
cmathesonkhermans, ok07:30
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khermanscmatheson, i think you have to enable one more setting07:30
cmathesonkhermans, oh ok, back to the manpage07:30
khermanscmatheson, google is better07:31
EiGHTBALLxif i install kubuntu , will i still be able to access gnome?07:31
cmathesonkhermans, oh ok07:31
jasoncohennikkia, i take it you haven't had the same luck07:31
jasoncohennikkia, is the problem with very new or old hardware?07:32
khermanscmatheson, "set envelope_from"07:32
cmathesonkhermans, ah, ok thanks a lot07:32
khermansAnyone know how to get ATI Radeon working in Xorg?07:32
nikkiajasoncohen: mostly 'very new'07:32
khermanscmatheson, google "muttrc" second hit -- help very much07:32
kentEiGHTBALLx you can install gnome from kubuntu,  as you can install kde from ubuntu. :)07:32
GerrathSeveas, did you check out the link I sent you, It does look like Ubuntu links to the guide and I just browsed through the guide and also have concluded it is not very good.07:32
Mattiaskhermans, check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:33
EiGHTBALLxi understand that but can i have both?07:33
SeveasEiGHTBALLx, yes07:33
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Seveasthey are essentialy one and the same distro07:33
EiGHTBALLxgreat!07:33
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SeveasGerrath, i'm going to talk to people about it :)07:33
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Seveasthat link will probably disappear07:34
GerrathSeveas, good.07:34
Mattiasafk07:34
dabiany command to refresh nautilus desktop background image, except killing it?07:34
Seveasdabi, <ctrl>r07:34
Seveas(while having the sesktop active)07:34
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Seveas<F5> may work too07:34
dabiSeveas with a command...07:34
Seveashmm07:34
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yahalomi need to access my routers firmware, any ideas?07:34
Seveasdunno07:34
Seveasxsetroot.>?07:34
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sam_Seveas, I managed to update my acroread finally. Thanks for the help.07:36
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cmathesonkhermans, hmm, it's changing my domain name, but it's still not working for the username07:38
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RastaMahatahello07:39
luzbelricotahi i has a problem with my sources list and i cant get hpoj package for install my multifunction printer. please help.07:39
comforteaglecan I add any unstable debian sources to my ubuntu sources list and not totally screw up my intall?07:39
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cmathesoncomforteagle, no, don't add debian sources07:40
Razor-Xanyone here experienced with LaTeX?07:40
Seveascomforteagle, no :)07:40
cmathesoncomforteagle, if you have to you could download the deb and try installing it that way07:40
Razor-Xcomforteagle: hell no07:40
yahalomanyone here setup their adsl through the routers firmware instead of pppoeconf?07:40
Razor-X;)07:40
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RastaMahata/usr/bin/lesspipe: line 28: basename: command not found07:40
Razor-Xyahalom: yeah07:40
Seveasluzbelricota: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:40
yahalomRazor-X, man, how can i do it?07:41
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londonboi2k3Hell guys, having a hell of a time trying to install bzflag from CVS im it says libcurl is not install when in fact it is!07:41
Razor-Xyahalom: does your router support dhcp?07:41
yahalomRazor-X, in windows i just browse to the gateway ip07:41
yahalomRazor-X, yes07:41
cmathesonlondonboi2k3, you're going to need the libcurl-dev package07:41
Razor-Xlondonboi2k3: make sure to have the dev package07:41
luzbelricotaseveas: did i copy and paste directly?07:41
RastaMahataI need help... When I open a terminal I get this errors:07:42
Shadowpillar(evolution:28110): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration07:42
RastaMahata/usr/bin/lesspipe: line 28: basename: command not found07:42
RastaMahata/usr/bin/lesspipe: line 222: [: =: unary operator expected07:42
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Razor-Xyahalom: why would you browse to the gateway IP, if DHCP is on?07:42
SeveasRastaMahata, basename is in coreutils, you either have screwed up your system or somethig odd is going on07:42
londonboi2k3libcurl-dev is installed07:42
RastaMahataSeveas, HDD malfunction?07:42
yahalomRazor-X, because i need to enter my username and password07:42
ShadowpillarSeveas: (evolution:28110): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration07:42
yahalomRazor-X, it uses pppoe too07:42
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ShadowpillarSeveas: any clue?07:42
SeveasRastaMahata, possible, but unlikely if you don't have other problems07:42
Razor-Xyahalom: ahhh, je comprende07:42
SeveasShadowpillar, it didn't work with another account?07:43
SeveasShadowpillar, and nothing in /var/log/messages?07:43
ShadowpillarSeveas: tried re-logging in, did a bonobo-slay07:43
yahalomRazor-X, do u know how i can browse to it?07:43
Razor-Xyahalom: my router uses pppoe, but that shouldn't interfere with the DHCP signal07:43
RastaMahataSeveas, maybe a reinstallation of coreutils through apt-get could resolve the problem?07:43
Razor-Xyahalom: hold on, while I read up on some docs for you07:43
ShadowpillarSeveas: and no, I'm not creating another account07:43
JonnyRoThe kernel-patch-<name> packages all require you to rebuild your kernel yourself correct?  They dont change the currently installed kernel07:43
yahalomRazor-X, thanx man07:43
SeveasRastaMahata, reinstall less to07:43
RastaMahataok07:43
JonnyRoI'm tryig to set up a UML server, and need to use kernel-patch-skas07:43
ShadowpillarSeveas: Jul  4 18:44:41 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x0 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '07:43
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ShadowpillarJul  4 18:46:46 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x2 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '07:43
SeveasShadowpillar, right, well don't expect any help if you don't help in debugging...07:43
londonboi2k3I think it may have something to do with SDL as in the configure it says could not find SDL07:43
londonboi2k3how do i  install that?07:44
Seveaslondonboi2k3, install libsdl-dev07:44
Razor-Xyahalom: have you tried it in the connections tab in Gnome-> System -> Administration -> Networking ?07:44
Seveasluzbelricota, visit that link and hit the download link07:44
yahalomRazor-X, nope07:44
ShadowpillarSeveas: I just gave you debug info07:44
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Razor-Xyahalom: well, there you are ;)07:44
londonboi2k3Seveas, ok its installing now, will try that07:44
ShadowpillarSeveas: well, the messages in /var/log/messages07:44
londonboi2k3thanks07:45
SeveasShadowpillar, that doesn't help...07:45
Seveastry a fresh account...07:45
yahalomRazor-X, what do i do there?07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere might i find fstab?07:45
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, /etc/fstab07:45
yahalomRazor-X, it asks for a phone number and stuff07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYthank you07:45
londonboi2k3Seveas, Thanks, it worked :)07:45
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Razor-Xyahalom: Connections Tab07:45
Razor-Xselect "Ethernet Connection" and then Properties07:45
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RastaMahataSeveas, I've got a broken pipe, or so it seems07:46
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yahalomRazor-X, what does that help me? i see no ip there :(07:46
RastaMahataI couldnt reinstall coreutils07:46
yahalomRazor-X, nor gateway07:46
SeveasRastaMahata, you have a seriously messed up system then...07:46
RastaMahataBut i didnt do anything?07:46
RastaMahataWhat can I do? :(07:46
Seveasmaybe bad harddisk indeed07:47
RastaMahataanything!*07:47
Razor-Xyahalom: Connection Settings -> Configuration and change it to manual07:47
Seveastry installing (and using) smartmontools07:47
RastaMahataack07:47
Razor-Xand input the gateway, ip, and such manually07:47
Razor-XRastaMahata: SYN?07:47
Razor-X;)07:47
RastaMahataSYN?07:47
Razor-XXD07:47
Razor-XACK is a form of network packet07:47
SeveasRastaMahata, Razor-X is being a geek :)07:47
Razor-Xand so is SYN ;)07:47
yahalomRazor-X, no id what they are07:48
Razor-Xthat's why, you never say ACK when i'm around;)07:48
RastaMahataSeveas, whats smartmontools?07:48
Razor-Xyahalom: ................07:48
Razor-Xfind out in Windows...07:48
Seveasit's a harddisk checking program07:48
Razor-Xok, what model router, by the way?07:48
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RastaMahataok07:48
thphow can i change my hz?07:48
SeveasRazor-X, btw: the correct order is SYN/SYNACK/ACK, not ACK/SYN07:48
Seveashz?07:48
Mestaphelesdoes anyone know how to adjust fstab to automount an external firewire CD burner?07:49
yahalomRazor-X, i dont use windows07:49
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Razor-XSeveas: I know, I didn't say it in any order07:49
thpHz, for my monitor07:49
yahalomRazor-X, ins;t there some command to bring up the gateway ip?07:49
SeveasMestapheles, it can automount by not adding it to fstab :)07:49
Razor-Xyahalom: then change it in your native totally-user-friendly operating system07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYok now this has me stumped what could be dening me access to a folder that i created on my desktop?07:49
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Seveasthp, edit /etc/X11/corg.conf07:49
Razor-Xyahalom: well, try DHCP and Manual (that should be one of them)07:49
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, bad permissions :)07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit07:49
Razor-Xthp: try saying monitor refresh rate ;)07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to fix it?07:49
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, paste the output of ls -al ~/Desktop on the pastebin07:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:50
Razor-Xhz == hertz, which is a common measurement term, also used to measure processor-speed07:50
Razor-Xand so you could be asking about software-overclocking07:50
Razor-Xa whole 'nother ballgame ;)07:50
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Razor-Xthe more verbose, the better07:50
yahalomRazor-X, i did DHCP but what do u mean manual?07:50
MestaphelesSeveas: but how do I use dmesg info to throw it in to fstab?  ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400]  - Max payload [2048]  doesn't seem intuitive07:51
Razor-Xyahalom: hmmm.... can you get me a screenshot of the window? I don't use Gnome meself07:51
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RastaMahataSeveas, errr... how do I use smartmontools :(07:51
thpwhen i try to login as root, it says, bad password, it didnt ask for root pw when i installed, only for my user07:51
Razor-Xi'm using docs here, and can try and visualize stuff07:51
yahalomRazor-X, i cant now., i have to go., i appreciate ur help :)07:51
SeveasMestapheles, ENOCLUE, never used firewire drives07:51
Seveasthp: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:51
Razor-Xthp: root can be accessed by using sudo07:51
yahalomRazor-X, if i can message u later?07:51
Razor-Xyahalom: go ahead07:51
Seveasthere is no root password :)07:51
Razor-Xyeah, what Seveas said ;)07:52
meminHello, how can I remove openoffice v1.1.3?07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas here ya go ^_^ http://pastebin.com/30790807:52
thpok, i check out, thanks07:52
Razor-Xmemin: remove the package from apt-get07:52
Seveasmemin, remove it with synaptic :)07:52
Razor-XI may remove open-office, i'm debating07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe folder i'm interested in is called STORAGE07:52
Razor-XLaTeX makes it useless07:52
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Razor-Xbut, it may come in useful later07:53
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comforteagleare there any bleeding-edge apt-get sources?07:53
meminwhich one there ismore then such as fonts and languages?07:53
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, you have correct permissions there, odd07:53
James686can you download themes for Ubuntu also for free?07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats what i thought07:53
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, what exactly does it deny access to?07:53
Seveascomforteagle, backports comes close, but should be handled with care07:53
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SeveasJames686, of course07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe folder in ~/STORAGE called Angie's stuff07:53
James686NICE07:53
James686lol07:53
comforteagleSeveas, ok07:54
ShadowpillarSeveas: okay, it works under another user07:54
James686Im so glad I got that setup running07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYi put a new hard drive and have just petitiond it and mounted it07:54
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, ls -al ~/Desktop/STORAGE --> pastebin07:54
meminshould I remove every package that has the word openoffice.*07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:54
ShadowpillarSeveas: using sudo07:54
Seveasmemin, good plan :)07:54
fortyozcan you dist-upgrade debian stable to ubuntu ?07:54
Seveasfortyoz, not easily07:54
Seveasyou need to use pinning to set ubuntu sources to 100107:54
fortyozk07:54
jmjonesh07:55
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synstarHi, i have installed VLC but i can't get it to be my default player.  properties--->open with--->add application--> displays - could not add application to database?07:55
tisaakhello everyone07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas here ya go http://pastebin.com/307912 ^_^07:56
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tisaakdoes anyone use gnupg with evolution?07:56
Razor-Xwhat's the best LaTeX book for learning advanced LaTeXing?07:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe mountpoint for the new drive is Storage is that a problem?07:56
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, hmm, you should be able to access it...07:56
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ArniaRazor-X: I just use the Not So Short Guide and then learn the rest from example07:57
gm78Hey all. I changed some of my settings in users and groups under advanced, now when i do commands using sudo i am no longer asked for a password. i dont like this, what could have caused this change?07:57
Razor-XArnia: as I am too ;)07:57
ArniaRazor-X: Although I'm about to experiment with using Wyneken to make producing a research log for my doctorate easier07:58
Seveasgm78, sudo remembers passwordds for a few minutes07:58
Razor-Xbut, I wouldn't mind a thorough examination on the nature of heavily formatted documents07:58
gm78Seveas, I rebooted the computer and it still did it07:58
thpIf VertRefresh is "50-75" it should display 75Hz in the menu?07:58
Seveasthat's odd07:58
Seveascheck /etc/sudoers07:58
Razor-XArnia: i'm assuming, many years from now, i'll be doing the same with LaTeX ;)07:58
Seveasif there are NOPASSWD clauses in there, remove them07:58
Razor-Xa heavily formatted math paper, at that ;)07:58
ArniaRazor-X: http://www.99b.org/wyneken/07:59
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Razor-X(hoping to major in Pure Math)07:59
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sektorhey07:59
synstarSeveas, do you know why I cant make VLC my default viewer?07:59
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ArniaRazor-X: I use LaTeX to write letters to friends... I just love it :)07:59
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ChurcH_of_FoamYk i'll try again07:59
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Seveaswouldn't know...07:59
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moirehey, i want to use licq with gnome07:59
Rich43whats the kernal version of the latest evrsion of ubuntu?07:59
sektorarnia that's just plain wrong :p07:59
gm78Seveas, omg...i swear, my computer hates me today. it just asked me for my password, after not doing it for about an hour. it also took away my permissions to use my audio device a few minutes ago. then the menu problems with autopackage before that. i give up :-P07:59
ShadowpillarSeveas: I did it under another user, it worked08:00
ShadowpillarSeveas: so, question is, why doesn't it work under minea08:00
Shadowpillarmine*08:00
greenlightsabergm78, it could be worse, you could be running Windows and let the worms do all the work for you ;)08:00
Razor-XArnia: heh, I haven't had much of a chance to, yet ;)08:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYcould i have set up the drive wrong in fstab?08:00
gm78greenlightsaber, lol, true enough08:00
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Razor-Xsince English class with essays is out for the summer08:00
sektorRich43 5.0408:00
sektori think08:00
Rich435?08:00
Razor-X(my summer English spplementary class doesen't have essays, insofar)08:00
moirei want to run licq under gtk, but the gtk plug in does not work08:00
ionsanyone else getting the "es menu class init" error when starting evolution?08:00
Arniasektor: I don't feel comfortable with any word processor available for Windows or Linux. If I get access to a powerbook, I may try Apple Pages, which seems closer to the concept I like using08:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it dosen't matter what file i try sevas it give's me the access denied error08:01
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moireions: reboot tried?08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen i try to put it on the drive08:01
ionstried and failed08:01
ionshappens with both 'evolution' & evolution-2.2'08:01
sektorArnia: if i write a letter to a friend, i use thunderbird :p08:01
Razor-XArnia: is it possible _not_ to love LaTeX?08:01
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ionsonly thing I've done is setup VNC08:01
moiremy evolution has suked also, but after a complete reboot of the machine it worked fine again08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas should i pastebin my fstab?08:01
oliwerhi all08:01
sektorLatex is a bit too much overhead to be easy to use08:02
sektorit just looks great08:02
moirelatex jeans? *gg08:02
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kbrooksHeh.08:02
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Arniasektor: I meant using snailmail -- since some of my friends live in the Western Isles and Cumbria and aren't really online08:02
Razor-Xmoire: note the capitalization of the word 'LaTeX' ;)08:02
moirehm cu08:02
kbrooksI'm updating ubuntu.....08:02
sektorArnia: woa, right, ppl still use that :D08:02
oliwerhi kbrooks08:02
kbrookswassup all08:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhey guys is this right?08:02
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1       /Storage        ext3   rw,user,noauto       0    008:02
moireRazor-X: ok ok it was a joke by the way ;)08:02
kbrooksman, i want to watch dvds...08:02
kbrookswith totem08:03
Razor-Xmoire: same here08:03
moireg08:03
MrBiscuit:-P08:03
Razor-Xkbrooks: that's what VLC's for08:03
boiledjust a quick question. ever since i installed ubuntu some weeks ago firefix has crashed every time upon visiting www.kaspersky.com - just wondering if its only me having that prob08:03
gm78kbrooks, vlc + libdvdcss :P08:03
sektori'm using KDE (kubuntu) but apparently Alt+right_click doesn't scale a window (like it does with redhat)08:03
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sektoranyone know if you can set an option so it does do that?08:03
kbrooksgm78, um, okay. are you serious08:03
Razor-Xi'm still plane-weary08:03
thpI can only choose 55Hz in 1152*768 my VertRefresh is set to 50-7508:03
Razor-Xbut, I still haven't figured out that one math question08:03
oliwerxine isn't too bad for dvd...08:03
Razor-Xsektor: scale a window?08:04
gm78kbrooks, ummm, yeah, how come?08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea of my fstab question?08:04
MrBiscuitDoes anyone else here share the pain of the Linuxant Driver?08:04
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sektorRazor-X: woops, resize of course08:04
Razor-Xsektor: ahhh08:04
sektorChruch: no :p08:04
Razor-Xthe KDE Control Panel is incredibly configurable08:04
James686When Ubuntu first starts, what do I log in under?08:04
Razor-XI believe it's there08:04
sektormkay, i'll go look then :)08:05
RastaMahataHA! I rebooted and now I cant do anything!08:05
Razor-XJames686: teh username you created during install08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas are you there ?08:05
James686ok08:05
RastaMahataI want to backup but I cant access nautilus!08:05
James686lol08:05
kbrooksJames686, huh....did you create a username08:05
Razor-Xit's almost as configurable as Enlightenment ;)08:05
sektorit's just not under "windows preferences"08:05
sektorso i was wondering if it was here08:05
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James686yeah but I didnt think that was...oh nevermind I'll just wait till it finishes installing again and select the RIGHT resolution this time lol08:05
Vinhcansomeone test http://203.122.214.110 and see if it works please08:05
waterl00which entry do i need in sources.list to get mplayer installed?08:06
thpit doesnt08:06
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gm78Vinh, im giving it a shot right now08:06
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oliwerVinh > i am afroid not08:07
VinhDam, thx for trying08:07
gm78Vinh, i can ping your server, but i cant get anything in a web browser08:07
oliwersame for me08:07
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oliwerhey ! is somebody used to VLC here ?08:08
gm78oliwer, i am, how come?08:08
oliweri have a stupid problem08:08
oliweri have no sound ^^08:08
Razor-Xoliwer: shoot08:08
Rich43http://203.122.214.110/ works08:08
Rich43for me08:08
Rich43its fine08:08
synstari get this error when i launch mplayer - New_Face failed.  Maybe wong font path is wrong.  Please suppy the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf))08:08
goldfisholiwer: got sound for anything else/08:08
oliweryep08:08
oliweri use oss08:08
Rich43nice ubunto http server :)08:08
Razor-Xoh, it's a sound problem08:08
Razor-Xoliwer: Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?08:09
oliwerkubuntu08:09
Razor-Xas I thought08:09
oliwerdamn08:09
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VinhOkay, can someone retry again please, I added i just added port 80 forward incase routed blocked it y default08:09
waterl00can anyone help me in installing mplayer and plugins to play mpg or avi files?08:09
Rich43Vinh it works08:09
MrBiscuitOh that ip adress thingey worked ok for me08:09
Razor-Xoliwer: you want to install vlc-arts08:09
Vinhthanks08:10
Razor-Xerrr08:10
oliweri check if it is sinstalled08:10
MrBiscuitCan anyone tell me an alternate to the Linuxant Modem Drivers08:10
Razor-Xvlc-plugin-arts08:10
Razor-Xrather08:10
oliwerk08:10
samuelki installed the kxdocker 0.35 but i when i right click on the bar i dont see the configurator.. so i configure kxdocker any one who could help me?08:10
jasoncohenwaterl00, apt-get install mplayer-38608:10
jasoncohenwaterl00, you need to enable multiverse08:11
oliwerrazor-x > thx i am installing it08:11
inemoubuntu ppc is still installing on my iBook, mother dropped a book on the keyboard and it typed "A", I deleted it and have left it, will it install ok?08:11
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inemoit says "registering documentation...please wait"08:12
oliwerrazor-x > thx again :)  It Works !08:12
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beowu1fanyone know how to get higher resolution than 1280x1024 in xfce4?08:13
steve-ohi from Latvia08:13
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LokeDKgtk-theme-switch doesn't work.. when I apply a theme I get segmentation fault08:13
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steve-ogot question about live-cd and install... Why when im runnin from live-cd , i can find XMMS in "add/remove prgs" , but in installed version , MULTIMEDIA section is almost empty ?:(08:14
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oliwersteve-o > that's not a problem ;)08:14
James686ummmm HELP!!! it says a fatal error has occured during setup, and it says theres somethin wrong w/ the display driver or whatever08:14
steve-ohow to resolve it ?08:14
James686WHY did that happen?08:15
steve-ooliwer, help please08:15
James686HOW can I fix it?08:15
znhdudes, I need some seriouse suggestion! - My dad is really got pissed of by his windows xp box (yes it got slow already xD).. and I suggested him to ubuntu, But It has to look like windows xp.. does anyone know a wm wich can be modificated to the look of xp?08:15
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oliwersteve-o > look for kynaptic in the K menu08:15
steve-o:))) znh  :)))08:15
goldfishznh: kde reminds me of windows08:15
Specznh: yes, but the one i've seen crashes like winXP, as well :p08:15
samuelklook at kde-loog.org08:15
James686how do I fix that problem?08:15
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SpecJames686: fix your xorg.conf configuration most likely08:16
znhhmm that's a very realistic team Spec, but that's the reason why he wants to leave windows :D08:16
znh*theme08:16
oliwersteve-o > Kynaptic is an easy way to install new softawares08:16
James686HOW???08:16
James686Im new at this08:16
SpecJames686: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com08:16
Specyou yell at me, i point you to google08:16
James686Im sry08:16
SpecI know.08:16
steve-ooliwer, sorry , my iq level is ho "high" ... where is that "k menu" ?08:16
James686how do I fix it?08:16
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znhbut eh, someone some seriouse suggestions?08:17
oliwersteve-o > like the start menu of windows08:17
ionsany of you have the problem where things won't stay where you lock them on Gnome panels?08:17
oliwersteve-o > ooops ? you have ubuntu or kubunto ?08:17
znhicewm is not modificatable enough08:17
steve-omaybe u wanted to say "Synaptic" ?:))08:17
oliwersteve-o > yes :)08:17
steve-oi've found smtn like synaptic packge manager :))08:17
steve-ohooraaay08:17
kbrooksgod08:17
steve-o:)))08:17
neospycan anyone tell me how to get splashy????08:18
oliweruse it now !08:18
James686so how do I fix it? I dont get how it happened08:18
kbrooksarchive.ubuntu.com IS SLOW!08:18
waterl00jasoncohen, thanks now it can download it08:18
steve-ooliwer,  but i still can't find a xmms there in multimedia08:18
znhkbrooks: it's just your lame internet connection :+08:18
James686??08:18
steve-o:))08:18
maswankbrooks: use a mirror?08:18
oliwersteve-o > i see the problem, wait a sec08:18
kbrooksLOL08:18
kbrooksmaswan, no08:19
znhthis may be interesting for me: http://www.qvwm.org/08:19
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steve-otake a look man08:19
Razor-Xanyone willing to test something for me?08:19
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kbrooksubotu, mirror08:19
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:19
Razor-Xrather, a group of people ;)08:19
kbrooksubotu, mirrors08:19
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:20
kbrookshm08:20
maswankbrooks: why not? things like us.archive.ubuntu.com or se.archive.ubuntu.com?08:20
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znhRazor-X: what do you want me to test :)08:20
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Razor-Xznh: tell me which PDF looks better08:20
Razor-Xwhich one looks more appealing to the eye, basically08:20
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znhRazor-X: no pdf reader here currently, sorry08:21
Razor-Xerrrgggg >_<08:21
Razor-Xanyone else willing to do it?08:21
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oliwersteve-o > in the settings of synaptic, you should find how to add a thing called "universe"08:22
Razor-X........08:22
FaeWolfeHow can I get my scanner to work ?08:22
Razor-Xyou people just have to read a PDF08:22
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Razor-Xis this the thanks you give me for helping!!! ;)08:22
ShadowpillarSeveas: turned out that I just needed to kill the eds server, the bonobo activation server and gconf-208:23
Shadowpillargconfd-208:23
luzbelricotahi wich one of this two you recommend for digital camera: gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client08:23
luzbelricotagtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras08:23
luzbelricotagtkam-gimp - gtkam gimp plugin08:23
luzbelricota?08:23
Razor-Xluzbelricota: they're both the same thing08:24
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Razor-Xdo you know what GIMP is?08:24
sam_is anybody running advancemame here?08:24
Razor-XFaeWolfe: what's the problem?08:24
steve-ooliwer, got any news there? :\08:25
oliwersteve-o > in the settings of synaptic, you should find how to add a thing called "universe"08:25
znhFaeWolfe: Her?08:25
Will__znh: I think that means she is female08:25
Will__Google it. *Grin*08:25
zookoAnybody know how to install mplayer on breezy?08:26
zooko08:26
FaeWolfeRazor: I get the message = Failed to open device'snapscan:libusb:002:003': Invalid argument08:26
Razor-Xznh: stop drooling, you idiot ;)08:26
FaeWolfeznh, yes her and I'm happily married lol08:26
Razor-XFaeWolfe: well, i'm about to configure my scanner too, so i'm about te step into this myself08:26
luzbelricotathanks razor08:26
znhAww.. xD08:26
Razor-X*to08:27
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FaeWolfelol znh08:27
oliwersteve-o > I've found a tuto that will resolve your problem > http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:27
znhFaeWolfe: so your housband has a linux-geek-wife ?08:27
steve-ooh !08:27
steve-othanks08:28
Razor-Xmarriage is a long ways here ;)08:28
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James686so how do I get rid of that problem so I can go on the desktop?08:28
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oliwersorry, i am not familiar with synaptic08:28
znhJames686: By fixing it08:28
Razor-Xif anyone would want to marry a math/linux geek ;)08:28
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James686and by fixing it I do what?08:28
FaeWolfeznh: my hubby has a linux newbie geek wife lol08:28
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=== Razor-X waits for SANE to download
artist303hi all08:29
znhblah.. why don't my gf love linux :(08:29
James686znh, how do I fix it?08:29
Razor-Xznh: hahahahaha!08:29
FaeWolfelol znh08:29
inemodoes hoary come with python installed?08:29
znhJames686: what's your problem exactly :)?08:29
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artist303i migrated from Fedora 3 to Ubuntu...08:29
oliwerznh > i have a french howto for this :)08:29
James686it shows this huge critical error message about no devices being detected and crap like that08:30
znholiwer: If you translate it for me ;)08:30
zooko/quit bye for now08:30
zooko08:30
Will__Does breezy come with a cute-linux-geekette?08:30
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inemodoes hoary come with python installed?08:30
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osirisHello im trying to install the Nforce platform drivers from www.nvidia.com i have installed them but lspci still says that the audio device is unknown, which file do i edit as the guid only tells you how to do it in suse and redhat08:31
FaeWolfecan anyone tell me how to get my scanner working ? :(08:31
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James686so do you know the answer?08:31
Razor-XFaeWolfe: model number would help too ;)08:31
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znhJames686: what's the prob?08:31
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RastaMahatahey08:31
James686read what I asked above...08:31
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RastaMahatahow can I burn an ISO from the command line?08:31
FaeWolfehang on a sec Razor...............I know it's an acer08:32
znhRastaMahata: by typing something on the command-line08:32
RastaMahataznh, really? woah!08:32
RastaMahata..08:32
znhRastaMahata: yea did you ever though that!08:32
RastaMahatayeah, actually!08:32
znhRastaMahata: cdrecord does it :)08:32
RastaMahatathanks08:32
FaeWolfeRazor, I don't know how much it's gonna help., but it's an Acer 6678-AVA08:32
osirisHello im trying to install the Nforce platform drivers from www.nvidia.com i have installed them but lspci still says that the audio device is unknown, which file do i edit as the guid only tells you how to do it in suse and redhat08:33
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James686any answer?08:33
RastaMahataMy HDD just crashed, I need to backup and format :(08:33
znhyou have taste FaeWolfe, I've got a LCD panel of Acer.. it's awesome stuff08:33
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me2pilouhello :)08:33
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moiretest08:33
James686???08:33
znhmoire: succeeded08:33
moire:)08:33
me2pilouI have'nt sound on some games is there someone to help me ?08:33
znhJames686: before I can give you an answer, please tell the question :)08:33
Razor-XFaeWolfe: mmmkay08:34
Razor-XUSB, correct?08:34
James686I already did!08:34
FaeWolfeyup08:34
James686wow...08:34
osirishas anyone installed the nforce platform drivers in Ubuntu before08:34
osiris?08:34
znhJames686: I didn't receive it then :/08:34
James686ok lol08:34
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artist303I could not find any initscript for iptables... is there any?08:34
James686I said I get this huge critical error message that says it doesnt detect any devices and crap like that08:34
James686even the device drivers and video drivers08:35
znhJames686: when? by starting our lovely X server?08:35
James686so...how do I fix that?08:35
znhby=while08:35
James686yes08:35
Razor-XFaeWolfe: try this08:35
James686the X server08:35
Razor-Xsudo apt-get install sane08:35
Will__X has never been lovely08:35
znhJames686: can you tell me some more detailed error information?08:35
James686ummm..hold on...08:35
znhWill__ you don't know anything of romanice ;)08:36
j_fletcher^ Will__08:36
osirisDoes anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?08:36
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FaeWolfety Razor, will let you know if it works08:36
Razor-XFaeWolfe: w-wait!08:36
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RastaMahataAH GREAT! cdrecord.mmap: not found ...08:36
khermansI cannot load the fglrx module in my linux-686 image!08:36
znhRastaMahata: congrats08:37
znhkhermans: You have to install it, before you can load it :] 08:37
RastaMahataznh, please dont be sarcastic in times like these...08:37
j_fletcherlol08:37
khermansznh, i have08:37
khermansFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device08:37
Will__znh: Romance? X?08:37
j_fletcherrofl, I can imagine him being bare upset that he cant burn hi CD08:37
znhWill__: hmm.. can you feel her lovely breath against your chin.. *sigh*08:38
khermans-rw-r--r--  1 root root 300859 2005-04-04 18:44 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko08:38
j_fletcheras if his dog just died or somthing08:38
FaeWolfeok Razor       sorry had to leave the puter for a sec08:38
Will__You killed his dog?08:38
RastaMahataj_fletcher, my dog did die recently, so please stfu08:38
khermansAnyone running fglrx driver in 686 image?08:38
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kbrooksRastaMahata, watch it08:38
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kbrooksbe nice08:38
Razor-XFaeWolfe: now try08:39
kbrooksobey the ubuntu code of conduct08:39
zeeeeehi all, i'm trying to run "jackd -d alsa" but i get "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again"...... please help!08:39
Razor-Xsane-find-scanners08:39
znhkbrooks: calm down :)08:39
Will__I'm far too sarcastic to be here tonight08:39
kbrookscalm down eh?08:39
RastaMahatakbrooks, what? people are being sarcastic and mocking because My HDD just died, and I cant say a word about it?08:39
kbrooksfine!08:39
FaeWolfeRazor, do I use terminal still to do that?08:39
osirisDoes anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?08:39
znhRastaMahata: when do you get that message?08:40
Razor-XFaeWolfe: yeahp08:40
kbrooksRastaMahata, er, never mind08:40
RastaMahatawhen I try to run cdrecord...08:40
Razor-Xmost everything I do is done in command-line08:40
znhRastaMahata: how did you install cdrecord?08:40
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khermansAnyone have FGLRX working?08:40
RastaMahatasigh... I think I'll just install a second HDD, backup there and then do a zero fill08:41
RastaMahataznh, apt-get08:41
FaeWolfeRazor   bash:sane-find-scanners:command not found08:41
jmjoneskhermans: i do08:41
Razor-Xword-processing, forms of messaging, text editing, websurfing (ocasionally), music listening, etc.08:41
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:41
khermansjmjones, do you have the linux-686 image?08:41
jmjoneskhermans: as good as it gets i guess....08:41
znhkhermans: I had it working yes, but the performance was so bad I cried all night cuz of my hard work to get it working was so damn unnessacery08:41
Razor-XFaeWolfe: did you sudo apt-get install sane?08:41
Razor-Xerrr, sorry!08:41
Razor-Xsane-find-scanner08:41
znhokay that's not fully true..08:41
FaeWolfelol lemme try again08:41
jmjoneskhermans: i initially used the xorg fglrx package08:41
znhRastaMahata: had the same, I compiled my own binary and it worked perfectly08:41
khermansjmjones, thats what i am trying08:41
RastaMahataok, will do08:41
jmjoneskhermans: it sucked at 3d and sucked worse at 2d stuff like playing dvds08:42
khermansmuhahaha08:42
FaeWolfeokies if detected it now to see if it works           I'll let you know08:42
Razor-Xerrr.....08:42
znh_blinking_08:42
jmjoneskhermans: i uninstalled it, downloaded the binary from ati and installed it.08:42
Razor-Xtry scanimage -L08:42
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znhhmm.. how does that blinking work in irssi08:42
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osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:42
znhblinking08:42
znhblinking08:42
James686ok, here is what it says...some of it anyway08:42
jmjoneskhermans: it's working much better - although not as good on 2d stuff as the plain at driver.....08:42
znhkhermans: buying a Nvidia card is better then wasting your time with ATi08:43
khermansjmjones, if you do a "uname -r" , do you have a 386 or 686 kernel image?08:43
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jmjoneskhermans: but depending on what you've got video card-wise, the xorg driver may work just fine with you08:43
khermansznh, this is an IBM T30 laptop -- cant replce08:43
jmjoneskhermans: 68608:43
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:43
jmjoneskhermans: which card you got?08:43
znhkhermans: have you got some Radeon 8500 - ?08:43
FaeWolfeRazor, is there anything else I need to do? it's telling me the make and model of my scanner now08:44
khermansATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 08:44
jmjoneskhermans: it's worth a try, then08:44
James686I cannot start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not setup correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?08:44
Razor-XFaeWolfe: well, try using a normal scanning application, if not, i'll give you specific instructions henceforth scanning08:44
jmjonesmaybe yours will work.....08:44
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marziociao a tutti08:44
James686Fatal Server Error:  No screens found08:44
FaeWolfeok I'll get back to you in a sec08:44
znhJames686: oh08:44
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znhJames686: what does it say before no screens found08:45
Whistlerhow can i install SDL for my ubuntu?08:45
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znhJames686: and have you ran xf86config or xf86cfg already?08:45
znhWhistler: apt-get install libsdl-*08:45
FaeWolfeRazor, I'm still getting that error message08:45
Razor-Xahhhh, ok then08:45
djpi gather you cannot delete entries created using smed the gnome menu editor at present. would that be correct?08:45
khermansjmjones, why would it fail to insert if the file is there!?!?08:46
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Razor-XFaeWolfe: try this08:46
Razor-Xsudo apt-get install xsane08:46
Razor-Xfor a nice, graphical environment ;)08:46
jmjoneskhermans: here's my xorg.conf that works with the new ati drivers.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/41208:46
kbrookswtf is xsane08:46
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jmjoneskhermans: dunno08:46
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:46
Razor-Xkbrooks: the X enabled version of sane08:46
hoslerHow do I install superkaramba on gnome? Do I absoultley need the KDE headers?08:46
khermansjmjones, Xorg wont start -- thats the issue08:46
kbrooksand sane is what?08:47
kbrooksoh08:47
James686(EE) No Devices Detected08:47
WhistlerE: Broken packages08:47
Razor-Xkbrooks: google is your friend ;)08:47
James686then it skips a bunch of config files08:47
Whistlerwhen i tyoe  apt-get install libsdl-*08:47
FaeWolfeRazor, says I already have it08:47
oliwerhostler > why do you care ? use synaptic08:47
znhJames686: oh oh.. you got a ugly X server..08:47
kbrooksRazor-X, i know what it means.......08:47
Razor-XFaeWolfe: type in "xsane" then ;)08:47
James686so...what do I do?08:47
znhJames686: have you ran xf86config already?08:47
James686lol08:47
hosleroliwer: superkaramba inst in synaptic08:47
James686which is?08:47
James686to config the resolution and all?08:48
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:48
oliwerhostler > http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:48
FaeWolfeRazor, that error message pops up08:48
FaeWolfe:(08:48
jmjoneskhermans: here's my xorg.conf that worked with the xorg fglrx: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/41308:48
jmjoneskhermans: did you state what error you were getting?08:48
hoslerok08:48
khermansjmjones, well "no screens found" -- but i think it is because "modprobe fglrx" fails08:48
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khermanssays file doesnt exist,  but it does08:49
James686so how do I fix that?08:49
znhJames686: and also your videocard config, which seems to be non-good-or-something08:49
James686yeah08:49
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working08:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYare there any fstab experts here?08:49
jmjoneskhermans: do you get an error when you modprobe fglrx?08:49
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khermansyes08:49
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi need help with my fstab08:49
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khermansjmjones, -rw-r--r--  1 root root 300859 2005-04-04 18:44 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko08:49
znhI bet they use IIS as webserver08:49
jmjoneskhermans: which kernel are you running?08:49
j_fletchergnome4the win08:49
khermansjmjones, FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device08:49
FaeWolfeRazor [snapscan} cannot open firmware file path/path/to/your/firmware/file.bin08:50
inemonalioth_wrkn: ping08:50
khermansjmjones, linux-68608:50
j_fletcherjmjones: send him a version request, probly tell u08:50
James686so I cant go on the desktop w/ out havin the net?08:50
jmjones2.6.10-5-686?08:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can't seem to get files to copy to a hard drive i set up with qtparted08:50
khermansjmjones, 2.6.10-5-68608:50
FaeWolfeand then edit firmware file entry in snapscan.conf08:50
jmjoneswhat do you get with `find /lib/modules -name "*fglrx*" -print`?08:50
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oliwernever buy ati cards again :)08:50
j_fletchermine works great08:51
^thehatsrule^lol08:51
khermansoliwer, kinda hard with a laptop..08:51
ionsany of you guys have problems getting gnome-panel to keep it's settings even after you have selected save current setup in logout?08:51
jmjonesoliwer: i don't disagree with that08:51
oliwerj_fletcher > u have acceleration ?08:51
jmjonesjust like i won't ever buy an abit motherboard again08:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYso can anyone help me with my fstab problem08:51
znholiwer: Radeon 8500 drivers are quite good, so don't blame ATi globally08:51
oliwer:)08:51
jmjonesnot intentionally anyway....08:51
khermansjmjones, /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko AND /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko08:52
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oliweri had a 9800 pro that didn't work so well :(08:52
Razor-Xback, sorry08:52
FaeWolfeRazor did you see what I said ?08:52
znholiwer: such a good card.. being wrecked by the ATi drivers :(08:52
Whistleranybody knows where i can find games list aviable via apt-get?08:52
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oliwerdo you have hadware accelaration with 8500 ?08:52
James686why cant I get Ubuntu to install properly then?08:52
Razor-Xyeah, I did...08:52
FaeWolfeok08:52
khermansjmjones, this really sucks -- i have no idea why08:52
Razor-Xi'm sorry, can you retype your model in?08:53
znholiwer: I had with my 9600 Pro08:53
jmjoneskhermans: i thought when i had the xorg fglrx drivers installed i had a <version>/kernel/drivers/video and a <version>/kernel/drivers/char/drm entry....08:53
Razor-Xthis room is chatting to quickly for me to scroll up effectively08:53
khermansjmjones, im going to reboot and head back to 386 image since it might work there08:53
oliwerok...08:53
jmjoneskhermans: give that a shot...alternately, try the new ati drivers.08:53
khermansk08:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't get it i formated a drive ext3 set it up in fstab08:53
khermansjmjones, thx for help dude08:53
Razor-Xcan someone here do me a favor, as well?08:53
jmjonesi'm having better success with them than the ones in hoary.08:53
James686??08:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYand when i try to copy over the data that i made08:53
znhRazor-X: about those pdf?08:53
jmjonesdvd play isn't the best, but it's not terrible....08:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYto the new hard drive it tells me access denied08:54
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ChurcH_of_FoamY>.< any idea why?08:54
khermansjmjones, you nee to enable DMA08:54
hoslerI cant get sound while playing dvds in mplayer. How do i fix this?08:54
oliwerIntel Extrem Graphics >> best graphic chipset ever ^^08:54
James686hello?08:54
znholiwer: lol08:54
znhJames686: use nicknames while chatting, then it will highlight at there client08:54
oliwerznh > that's what i have lol and it is perfect for TuxRacer08:55
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James686can you answer me znh?08:55
znholiwer: I'm happy for you ;)08:55
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znhJames686: use this to get my attention: znh: can you answer me?08:55
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Whistleri installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?08:55
Razor-Xback again Fae08:56
FaeWolfeokies08:56
Razor-XFaeWolfe08:56
Razor-Xyeah,08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i'm being denied wright permissions to my hdb1 hard drive is there a way to fix?08:56
James686well you obviously know my question now plz answer me08:56
Whistlerchmod08:56
Razor-Xsister was opening printer and taking out ink cartridge ;)08:56
FaeWolfelol08:56
TsukasaChurcH_of_FoamY, sudo chmod 777 /dev/hdX08:56
James686PLZ I want this to be done and I g2g to work very soon08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk08:56
znhJames686: Have you ran xf86config or xorgconfig whatever you have already?08:56
Whistleri installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?08:56
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James686how do I do that?08:56
TsukasaWhistler, tried crossfire-client-gtk?08:57
FaeWolfeRazor, it's an Acer 6678-AVA                 lol08:57
oliwerwhat is crossfire ? a firewall ?08:57
znhJames686: by typing it: xorgconfig08:57
znhJames686: with the buttons on your keyboard08:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope diden't work >.<08:57
oliwerDid somebody here tested AfterStep ?08:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to mount the hard drive using sudo?08:58
TsukasaChurcH_of_FoamY, sudo mount /dev/hdX08:58
Tsukasaif it's in fstab08:58
znholiwer: Nope, is it good?08:58
Tsukasaotherwise you need extra parameters like mount point and type08:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx08:59
Suepahfly"sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win"  for example08:59
oliwerznh > it looks very nice, but i am afraid to install it08:59
goldfisholiwer: what is it?08:59
znholiwer: I'll do it at my silly laptop08:59
oliwerok thx08:59
znholiwer: i'll keep you informed08:59
oliwerafterstep is a windows manager (like gnome ...) but it's very... different09:00
Suepahflybtw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?09:00
goldfishi see.09:00
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goldfishi'm happy with fluxbox09:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYno matter what i do i can't get access to that drive >.<09:00
Razor-Xugghhh, back... again09:00
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oliwerznh > actualy, there are .deb packages for afterstep09:00
Razor-XTsukasa: Kite!!!09:00
FaeWolfewb09:00
TsukasaRazor-X: Shuugo!!!09:01
znholiwer: yea I'm downloading it right now09:01
oliwerbut is it enough to have the choice beetween kde and afterstep at startup09:01
Tsukasabah kde09:01
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oliwertsukasa > kde better than gnome !09:01
Tsukasathat's your opinion :)09:01
TsukasaI think kde is the bloated porn queen of window managers ;)09:01
Suepahflyi preffer gonme over kde09:02
oliweri like trolling ^^09:02
oliweryou will burn in hell09:02
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Tsukasayay09:02
Tsukasa:)09:02
inemowhat are the recommendations for VNC servers on hoary?09:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwow when i started using ubuntu a few monthes ago09:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere where only like 300 people in here ^_^09:03
thenukeinemo: hoary has vnc -server already09:03
znhinemo: a fast connection the the client is always nice, the hardware doesn't really mather it works fast on my 120mhz laptop09:03
oliweranyway, everybody should look at www.afterstep.org09:03
tiglionabbitIf VLC and Totem will not play the sound in quicktime files, but mplayer will, what does that mean?09:03
inemothenuke: where?09:03
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thenukeinemo: you should find it from some menu on the top of the screen in gnome09:03
Tsukasainemo, system -> settings -> remote desktop09:03
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inemoznh: I meant vnc server software, ie software that shares the hoary screen ;)09:03
inemothenuke Tsukasa thanks :)09:04
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a hard drive how to for ubuntu?09:04
thenukeinemo: tweak the settings of the server if you dont have enough bandwidth.09:04
oliwertaltan ?09:04
FaeWolfeack I have to shut down   t-storms      Razor thanks for tryin to help I'll be back later to try to figure it out again09:04
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: you mean partitioning or mounting?09:04
thenukeinemo: drop down the number of colours and sometinhg like that09:04
inemothenuke: its over 54mb airport, so 256 colours is fine09:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell i used qtparted to partition and format it ext309:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand i use konq to mount it09:05
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Razor-XFaeWolfe: nooooooooooo!!!!09:05
tiglionabbitokay, and then?09:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought i made the correct changes in fstab09:05
Whistleri installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?09:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbut for some reason i can't wright to the drive09:05
Suepahflybtw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?09:05
Razor-XI need to send a queued message on IRC :(09:05
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: is it NTFS?09:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYno ext309:05
TsukasaWhistler, try to locate it using whereis crossfire, maybe this gives you a clue09:05
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aCiD2Hey, all im trying to get my xp partition to automount, so I do this by editing fstab, correct?09:06
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: oops sorry.09:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi changd it from ntfs09:06
znhChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to be root to change the fstab file09:06
Suepahflyyes aCiD209:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was in root when i changed it09:06
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znhok09:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut it dosen't want to let me wright to it09:06
znholiwer: okay almost done installing09:06
aCiD2ok, well I tried adding "/dev/hdb5/mnt/windowsntfsdefaults,user00" but it seems I need to be root to access it09:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot even when i mount it as root09:06
aCiD2Whys that?09:06
oliwerznh > good luck :)09:06
znh\o/09:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i have to get this drive working09:07
SuepahflyaCiD2, : /dev/hda1       /mnt/win1       ntfs    ro,user,nosuid,umask=000        0       0, this is a line from my fstab09:07
aCiD2ah, ok09:07
aCiD2Ill give those options a shot09:07
kbrookshuh09:07
kbrooks#1?09:07
MrBiscuitAnyone know an alternative to Linuxant HSF Modem Drivers09:07
Suepahflynote the umask=00009:07
kbrookson distrowatch?09:07
oliwerznh > ddid u ever use nextstep ?09:07
aCiD2I used 022209:07
aCiD2(when I do it manually)09:07
kbrooks*looks at everything *09:07
kbrooks:P09:07
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inemoTsukasa: how do I tweak the settings behind remote desktop?09:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso is there something i'm missing?09:08
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znholiwer: nope only used: windowmaker, enlightenment(E), KDE, gnome, icewm, qvwm, evilwm, fluxbox, xfce4, and after a while afterstep09:08
AlexFrenzhello world! I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?09:08
znhAlexFrenz: hello user!09:08
AlexFrenzhello znh09:08
aCiD2whats the syntax to remount a partition?09:08
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tiglionabbitI would also like to know how to mount my partition with write access to it09:08
oliwerznh > lol you really have time to lose ^^09:08
Tsukasainemo, try /etc/vnc.conf09:08
anacronhi, is it possible to make linux write ntfs?09:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey maybe thats what i have to do ^_^09:09
znholiwer: eh?09:09
defineHi guys09:09
Suepahflyanacron, no not totally yet09:09
KyralNot unless you wanna kill your drive09:09
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tiglionabbitaCiD2: you mean unmount and mount it again?  umount /dev/hd??; mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/whatever09:09
Suepahflybut there are people working on it09:09
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TsukasaaCiD2, I know that you can remount everything using mount -a09:09
MrBiscuitis there an alternative to linuxant09:09
definehey hoe would you guys rate ubuntu security-wise out of the box09:09
inemoTsukasa: as root?09:09
Razor-Xcan someone do a favor for me?09:09
aCiD2tiglionabbit, theres a way to do something like "mount remount"09:09
anacronokey, so how should i move some files to my windows partition? if i can write to ntfs09:09
Tsukasainemo, yep, edit it as root09:09
oliwerznh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager09:09
tiglionabbitaCiD2: o.09:09
znhdefine: well it's more secure then our billy gay's ms09:09
znholiwer: yea i'm still not statisfied09:10
kbrooksgad09:10
AlexFrenzI've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?09:10
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<09:10
kbrooksemacs is a big deal...09:10
kbrookssheesh09:10
NintendudI'm compiling mplayer from source, but it doesn't see xv. When I used the precompiled mplayer package installed with apt-get, I could use xv. The reason i compiled is because it will perform a lot faster on my computer. Is there any solution?09:10
oliwerznh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager09:10
anacronhey anybody? do have an idea for moving some files to ntfs partition?09:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought i had done everything right >.<09:10
definepalm OS is more secure than MS out of the box...i need something a bit more precise09:10
oliweroops09:10
aCiD2Suepahfly, I used your fstab options, did a "mount -a" but I still cant get in, think I need a reboot?09:10
goldfishanacron: you can't write safely to ntfs from linux.09:10
defineznh09:10
kbrooksNintendud, don't compile!!!!!09:10
znhdefine09:10
Nintendudkbrooks: >:O why not??09:11
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SuepahflyaCiD2, got the correct partion?09:11
anacrongoldfish, yeah i already know that, but what should i do then09:11
luzbelricotahi, wich program you recommend me for design web pages under linux ?09:11
aCiD2Suepahfly, yup09:11
Nintendudit plays with x11, but it is not full screen with -fs!!09:11
Tsukasaluzbelricota, nvu09:11
goldfishluzbelricota: vim !09:11
Suepahflyand did you make a directory for your mount point?09:11
aCiD2Suepahfly, its not updating the permissions with the umask though09:11
Nintendudso either I need to figure out how to get it to play full screen with x11, or xv09:11
Suepahflya reboot might help09:11
znhluzbelricota: nano is nice09:11
luzbelricotanvu and vim, can i get with apt-get ?09:11
aCiD2ok, i'll give that a shot09:11
aCiD2brb09:11
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goldfishanacron: well, i made a fat32 partition to share between windows and linux.09:11
luzbelricotaznh: i want a visual one09:11
AlexFrenzHELLO.I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?09:12
cieffehi everybody09:12
Tsukasaluzbelricota, nvu is available via apt-get09:12
luzbelricotasorry, vnu and vim are visual editors?09:12
znhluzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit09:12
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: do you mean you can't write to it with sudo, or can't write to it at all?  I believe it is normal in unix permissions to not be able to write to something outside your home directory09:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan't at all09:12
luzbelricotayeah, graphical09:12
tiglionabbitwithout super permissions..09:12
tiglionabbitoh09:12
luzbelricotasorry my english09:12
Tsukasaluzbelricota, nvu is the next generation of the old netscape composer (correct me if i'm wrong)09:12
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anacrongoldfish, well i can't do that, so is there a way to access linux partition from windows?09:12
kbrooks#define visual console09:12
kbrooks??09:12
kbrooksznh, do you mean console?09:12
goldfishanacron: well u can copy files, one second.09:13
znhkbrooks: when?09:13
kbrooks<znh> luzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit09:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can't wright to it at all it denise me access09:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYweather i mount it as root or as user09:13
NintendudCan anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?09:13
znhkbrooks: eh.. console doesn't fit there?09:13
anacrongoldfish, copy how?, could you tell me some more?09:13
kbrooksznh, 'a console application'09:14
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: what I mean is, open a root terminal and try to create a directory in that partition or something, or "sudo nautilus" and use that09:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok09:14
sam_I still haven't been able to update azureus in ubuntu. Any suggestions. Tried sudo -s and then running it but no luck.09:14
znhkbrooks: nano is a console application, you might mean graphical, like gedit and nedit - better?09:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll try have know idea what nautalus is though09:14
Nintendudnautilus is gnome's file manager09:14
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davrowhen you press ctrl+alt f1 etc how would i go about changing the font size on this console screen ?09:15
aCiD2Suepahfly, yup, thats got it :) Thank you!09:15
znholiwer: installing takes a while on my 120mhz laptop.. it's still busy with his configuration files09:15
AlexFrenzanybody can help me?09:15
goldfishanacron: Program is called Explore2fs09:15
oliweryep nano is cooool !09:15
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SuepahflyaCiD2,  np :)09:15
znhnano is awesome while transparant..09:15
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anacrongoldfish, okey i'll do some google-stuff thanks ;)09:15
goldfishnp09:15
goldfishznh: everything is awesome transparent !09:15
James686ok I did that, still did not work!09:16
aCiD2now I have one more question09:16
znhgoldfish: eh.. not everything ;)09:16
aCiD2When I go to places -> computer09:16
goldfishznh: :)09:16
oliwerbut ms notepad is better09:16
luzbelricotai am trying to download nvu from apt-get and doesnt finds anything09:16
aCiD2I see the windwos drive as "99g harddrive" - is it possible to rename this?09:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi forgot a step09:16
oliwer..09:16
Suepahflyi really dunno09:16
znh:P09:16
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James686znh: not workin09:16
aCiD2well, its no biggy :)09:16
znholiwer: jus hit startx09:16
znhJames686: xorgconfig ?09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have the mountpoint as /Storage and it created that folder on my hard drive09:17
othernoobdoes anyone know an RTS-channel on irc?09:17
James686didnt work09:17
Suepahflyi see mine as 51gb drive, 19.4 gb drive, ect. ect.09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot the one that is storage09:17
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lokr irc.ircsuper.net09:17
znhJames686: what error message :)09:17
aCiD2Suepahfly, yup09:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYon hdb109:17
oliwer_znh ?09:17
znholiwer_: yes?09:17
kbrooksaCiD2, might be possible, let me check09:17
lokoups sorry09:17
James686no error message, same as before09:17
aCiD2kbrooks, yey, thanks09:17
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oliwer_sorry i had a deco09:17
NintendudCan anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?09:17
oliwer_what did you said ?09:17
James686and it just brings me to the login text09:17
znholiwer_: np, afterstep is loading09:17
oliwer_oki :)09:17
znholiwer_: loading part is already nice09:18
oliwer_how did you do to launch it ?09:18
znholiwer_: I typed with my keyboard buttons 'startx'09:18
James686this is really irritating, why do I get this problem and no one else?09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYhda1 and hdb1 are showing the same files now >.<09:18
oliwer_but at ubuntu startup ? is gnome still by default ?09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat the hell?09:18
znhJames686: I think you have a very acient/new videocard09:19
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: did you mount the same thing twice?09:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYi messed with the mount point and now it's goofed up >,<09:19
James686Nvidia GeforceFX 550009:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYmust have09:19
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znholiwer_: the loading part is awesome09:19
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1       /               ext3   rw,user,noauto       0    009:19
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oliwer_hhhoooooOOOOO09:19
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DrakonikHello.09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYand some how i think thats not right >.<09:20
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: you meant to put hdb1 at your root?09:20
znholiwer_: ok pagers and such loaded09:20
James686znh?09:20
Suepahflywhy can't i log to gnome with 'root' ?09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYno09:20
znhyes James68609:20
DrakonikI've got a challenge for anyone who's willing to take it.09:20
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: then change it =P09:20
oliwer_good09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want it to be a storage drive09:20
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DrakonikSell me Ubuntu.09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYto what?09:20
James686you got what I said?09:20
DrakonikTry to convince me to download it.09:20
znholiwer_: It has buttons like windowmaker09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed /Storage but when i mount it it won't let me wright to it09:21
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kbrooksDrakonik, why?09:21
oliwer_yeah i saw scrennshots, it is dark isn't it ?09:21
othernoobDrakonik: take it or leave it :p09:21
znholiwer_: but it's damn slow on my 120mhz laptop - not weird09:21
davroThe console screens found using ctrl+alt f1 f2 * can the font size be changed on this ?09:21
DrakonikHEhee.09:21
MestaphelesJust how does one configure printers without gnome-cups-manager with a ubuntu minimal/server install if cups weinterface is locked out?09:21
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James686znh: well?09:21
James686znh: can you assist me any further?09:21
luzbelricotacan anyone help me to install nvu ?09:21
SuepahflyDrakonik, read the docs, look @ the site and decide for your self if you want ubuntu or not09:21
znhJames686: can you give me the output of lspci ?09:22
tiglionabbitdavro: I believe it is possible to pass grub different boot options, which cause it to put those consoles in a different resolution.  As for the font, dunno09:22
James686znh: whats that?09:22
znhJames686: a program :)09:22
Mestaphelesanyone done a server ubuntu install, then set up printers?09:22
oliwer_FOR YOU WHO IS ASKING DUMB QUESTIONS >> http://ubuntuguide.org/09:22
James686how do I get the output?09:22
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znholiwer_: mind reader :P09:22
tiglionabbitoliwer_: we're not supposed to support that, try linking to the wiki instead09:23
oliwer_...09:23
znhJames686: do this please 'lspci | grep Video'09:23
oliwer_hoo ok09:23
kvidellwe don't typically support the ubuntuguide apparently. It's got a lot of inaccuracies in it.09:23
znhJames686: No dont09:23
znhJames686: do this please 'lspci | grep VGA'09:23
James686ok...09:23
kvidelland a lot of stuff that assumes the reader is smarter than not.09:23
davrotiglionabbit, that could work will have a google about that09:23
oliwer_but wiki is not as good as my link ;)09:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYumount it seems / is mounted multiple times please check that the disk is enterd correctly09:23
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<09:23
anacronhmm actually could someone help me with cd-writing softwares, instead of trying to copy those files to windows?09:24
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tiglionabbitdavro: someone mentions it in ubuntuforums under the customizing hoary section.  I don't think it worked for me though, =P sorry09:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow the bugger won't let me unmount it >.<09:24
znholiwer_: afterstep is lovely09:24
luzbelricotawich application can give actualized information about weather in our desktops ???09:24
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davroexterminate kvidell.09:24
thotypousanacron, try k3b ;)09:24
znholiwer_: do you want to VNC on it?09:24
kvidellhehe09:24
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: you probably wont be able to unmount your / directory09:24
oliwer_znh > u make me happy09:24
anacronthotypous, i have that, but it won't work09:24
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: would be best to edit the fstab and restart09:24
tiglionabbitbubbye guys09:25
anacronthe problem is that i can't actually burn anything09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:25
djpis it not possible to delete items from the gnome menu?09:25
oliwer_znh > but are u sure that will be able to use kde after installing afterstep09:25
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anacronit says that "you can only make image of this stuff blaa blaa"09:25
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luzbelricotagdesklets ??? is for see weather ?09:25
fcsmacdo I need to install any kernel patches for a g3?09:25
fcsmacor should I?09:26
thpDoes ubuntu have nvidia drivers installed as standard? Or should i installed them by console?09:26
znholiwer_: You can always switch between window managers inside gdm09:26
znholiwer_: before you instal afterstep, do you want to try it out with vnc?09:26
SuepahflyaCiD2, yiu can rename the mounted windows drives if you login in to gnome un root, there must be an easier way but i'm a linux noob09:26
anacronthp: use apt-get :)09:26
djpthp: the free nvidia driver nv should be installed by default09:26
^thehatsrule^thp: if you mean 3d binary accelerated drivers, no09:26
oliwer_znh > nope09:26
djpthp: no 3d acceleration with nv though09:26
thpi mean 3d :)09:26
oliwer_i would like to have choice at x startup09:26
thpokay thanks then09:27
kbrooksyou can remount /09:27
kbrooksbut you cant do so...09:27
djpthp: apt-get nvidia-glx i think09:27
znholiwer_: in gdm you can choose 'sessions', there you can pick a wm09:27
fcsmacI just installed the basic powerpc kernel when I first installed, are there any kernel updates for g3?09:27
djpthp: i stick to the free driver myself09:27
djpno smeg users here?09:27
oliwer_znh > damn it ! i'm noob i don't know gdm09:27
oliwer_znh > gdm is only for gnome isn't it ?09:28
znholiwer_: not really, I have gdm and I use icewm :)09:28
sam_Can somebody help me update azureus?09:28
oliwer_znh > i'll try to install gdm09:29
znholiwer_: it's already on your box..09:29
oliwer_i where is it ?09:29
oliwer_doesn't work in konsole09:29
znholiwer_: gdm starts whenever you bootup the computer, it's the screen we're it asks your username and password09:29
oliwer_haaa ok09:30
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znhbye09:30
oliwer_ok... i install after step and i try to stay alive ^^09:30
oliwer_bye09:30
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techiiwhat do I have to do to get python syntax highlighting in vim?09:31
davrotiglionabbit, just had a google seems its the Frame-buffer decimal codes that are needed vga=791 is about 1024 16 bit sound about right09:31
ateveshi! i have a problem with my second ubuntu installation. i installed acroread via apt-get, it shows in the menu, but i when i try to open it, nothing happens, the same when i try to open a pdf with it09:31
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bluefoxicyMy Hoary CDs are here!09:31
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James686znh: wont work09:32
bluefoxicyI ordered like 60 but I didn't get a display box :(09:32
fcsmacis there a wesnoth port for power pc linux?09:32
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James686I g2g to work help me later lol09:32
luzbelricotai downloaded nvu 1.0 pc but i cant install it09:32
bluefoxicyMeanwhile some of my coworkers want copies of Ubuntu LiveCDs and one wants an installer.09:32
bluefoxicyI was planning to hand these things out in my Unix class09:33
bluefoxicywhich I was taking at the time of order :(09:33
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok no matter what i do it won't let me wright to the drive >.<09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi must have done something wrong09:33
inemotry writing ;)09:33
techiibluefoxicy: how long did it take?09:33
bluefoxicytechii:  I ordered them in 5.04 :)09:33
bluefoxicyso it took 2 months.09:34
luzbelricotai doesnt has any configure script or anything09:34
luzbelricotawhat i do ?09:34
bluefoxicyI wish I could pre-order breezy.  :>09:34
bluefoxicyalso, the box art sucks.09:34
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bluefoxicythe CD label is just red with white or black text :(09:34
bluefoxicyBreezy's CD label should be a picture of a badger09:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYcould it be that i'm trying to use the same mountpoint that i used when the drive was ntfs?09:35
Mestaphelessh*t that unofficial starter guide has a gapping hole.  No printer instructions for the newbie, however it is with gnome-cups-manager09:35
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bluefoxicyMestapheles:  system->administration->printers add new printer09:35
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MestaphelesI know that09:35
bluefoxicypick local, detected printer, model, and set it to do letter instead of A4 in the printer properties.09:35
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Mestaphelesbut do you know how to add a printer without gnome?09:36
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bluefoxicyMestapheles:  localhost:631 but that's disabled in ubuntu.09:36
Mestaphelesas last time I checked the web interface was disabled09:36
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Mestaphelesyes09:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo i have to set the drive "active"?09:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYto use it?09:36
bluefoxicykde should have a printer manager in the system configuration09:37
luzbelricota--> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ???09:37
anacronhow can i reconfigure openssh-server ?09:37
Mestaphelesso I'll have to apt-get install gnome-cups-manager onto my minimal install09:37
Mestaphelesthanks09:37
bluefoxicyMestapheles:  how are you without gnome?  Kshutubuntu?09:37
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bluefoxicyoh09:37
bluefoxicyyou have a minimal install09:37
bluefoxicyhmm.09:37
sam_Please someone, sorry to sound so pathetic. but I've been bugged by this azureus updating problem for over a week now.09:37
MestaphelesI just want to use xfce409:37
itzWant an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?09:37
techiiMestaphelesJ: look in /etc/cups09:37
djpany gnome meny editor users here?09:37
bluefoxicyMestapheles:  ask how to enable the web interface in some channel, heh techii may know how.09:37
MestaphelesI hardly use any gnome specific features,09:37
anacronsam_, just ignore it like i do :D09:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen you partition a hard drive do you  have to set the partition "active" to use it?09:38
luzbelricota--> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ??? similar to kde-looks.org09:38
techiithe config files are there, haven't used them though09:38
sam_anacron, you mean don't update it?09:38
techiiart.gnome.org09:38
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sam_I guess that would work. But I hate it when things don't work.09:38
anacronsam_, yeah, it just won't stop that bugging09:38
techiithen there is something like "gnome-look.org"09:38
dohpazI'm testing out Hoary LiveCD and I was curious about browsing the filesystem using Nautilus. Apparently, when I click a folder (eg. /mnt) the parent will close. The only way to go "back" is to use Open Parent under the file menu. I find this counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome. a) What is the rationale behind this? and b) how do I disable it?09:38
beowu1fanyone here running 19200x1200 resolution???09:38
beowu1fsorry09:38
beowu1f1920x120009:39
goldfish1680 x 105009:39
HavoKhi there.. there is any way to play dvds in breezy?09:39
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itzWant an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?09:39
HavoKdohpaz: you should use gconf-editor09:39
techiidohpaz: not quite shure, atleast for spatial mode (did I spell right?)09:39
Mestaphelestechii: /etc/cups ? will do09:40
techiimay be hard coded09:40
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inemohow do I go about installing python on hoary?09:40
techiiMestapheles: thats where the config files are for the printing system09:40
techiiinemo: its preinstalled afaik09:40
bluefoxicyMestapheles:  #gentoo may know how to reconfigure cups to allow web interface on 127.0.0.1 (yes lots of non-gentoo questions get asked there)09:40
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HavoKand enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_satial09:40
nightswiminemo: sudo apt-get install python09:40
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Mestaphelesthanks guys09:40
HavoKand enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial09:40
gekanyone have a gmail invite they can send me?09:40
nightswimif it isnt already there09:40
Tsukasadohpaz, as already mentioned use the gconf-editor and navigate to / -> apps -> nautilus -> preferences and check always_use_browser09:41
beowu1fgoldfish whats your horiz ref. set to..??09:41
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techiibut im not familiar with cups09:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to see all files in consloe?09:41
bluefoxicyMestapheles:  or #cups09:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYconsole even09:41
bluefoxicytechii:  there's 900 people in #gentoo :)09:41
Mestaphelesbetter yet09:41
bluefoxicyone of them has to know :D09:41
anacronhey someone? how to configure ssh server?09:41
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inemonightswim: that says its already at the latest, but when I try and run python script I get error09:41
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HavoKdohpaz: if you still want to use spatial browsing do as I say, else do as Tsukasa said09:41
inemoand it runs fine on python 2.4 on my OS X09:41
techiiinemo: what is the error?09:41
thenukeanacron: /etc/ssh/09:41
nightswiminemo: make sure the #!/usr/bin python on top of the file is correct09:42
nightswimie, that it points to your python09:42
techiianacron: dont' think a ssh server is installed by default09:42
dohpazTsukasa, HavoK, I found it under GConf/apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial; again, it seems pretty counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome (I keep bringing this up because I'm thinking of giving Ubuntu to a friend who has been dying to try out Linux/Gnome, but doesn't know anything about it.)09:42
fcsmachaha it points to your python09:42
nightswimor do some creative symlinking09:42
nightswimor use env09:42
AndyRwhere is best place to put hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc ?09:42
inemoah, and that would be where nightswim ? /etc/python ??09:42
HavoKdohpaz: ok, so you don't want spatial mode09:42
techiidohpaz: agreed09:42
anacrontechii, it has been installed in this machine09:42
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nightswiminemo: type "which python"09:42
bluefoxicyHavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  System->Preferences->File Managment::Behavior09:43
anacronthenuke, thanks09:43
bluefoxicyTsukasa:  .hack?09:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i have tryed everything i could with my limeted knowledge of linux09:43
HavoKdohpaz: check the flag always_use_brwoser09:43
HavoKi'm useing that =)09:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i still cannot wright to the damn drive >.<09:43
techiispatial mode alone is ok, but closing the parent window, becomes a problem09:43
Tsukasabluefoxicy, aye09:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm about to through it acrost the rom >.<09:43
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dohpazHavoK, no_ubuntu_spatial reverts it to the defacto spatial; meaning when I open a folder it opens that folder, without closing the parent. ^_^09:43
itzHey plzz are there any ftp servers thats easy to setup? im used to proftp but i cant install it properly and it keeps complaining when im trying to reinstall it09:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYroom even09:43
bluefoxicyHavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  There's a flag "Always open in browser" right there you can do without running gnome's regedit app :P09:43
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dohpazbluefoxicy, thank you, I did not see that option when exploring the UI.09:44
HavoKbluefoxicy: i didn't know that =)09:44
Tsukasabluefoxicy, messing with the editor is more fun ;D09:44
nightswimcan I tell gnome to allow windows to be placed higher than the top of the screen?09:44
nightswimwhen I drag them using alt-lmb09:44
tmdcaHi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O09:44
bluefoxicyTsukasa:  as is adding 'alias gregedit32.exe=gconf-editor' to ~/.bashrc09:44
techiiok, does anyone know if there is a package for python syntax highlighting for vim?09:44
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ateveshas anyone some experiences with kdecheckgmail under ubuntu?09:44
bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?09:45
dohpazbluefoxicy, The File Management interface doesn't have an option to revert to standard spatial, and I do not wish to use the old browsing behavior. fyi09:45
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bluefoxicydohpaz: ?  what is standard spatial?  :)09:45
scopeanyone have problems with grub not loading after install?09:45
nightswimtechii: /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/python.vim09:46
inemonightswim: which python returns /usr/bin/python      i set the top of the file to #!/usr/bin/python         then it gives me the error "error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/MakeFile (No such file or directory)"       any ideas?09:46
techiibluefoxicy: the same type of window that ubuntu uses, but it keeps the parent window09:46
techiinightswin: thanks09:46
scopeexit09:46
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i create a mountpoint for hdb1?09:46
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scopemount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mounts09:47
bluefoxicydohpaz, techii:  Oh, that's an option?09:47
scopeor whatever you wanta mount it to09:47
dohpazbluefoxicy, what I mean is that by default in hoary (afiak), if you go to Places->Computer->Filesystem and click on [for example]  /mnt, it will open /mnt in a new window, and automatically close the parent window. Meaning, to go back to /, I have to go to File->Open Parent. Checking no_ubuntu_spatial in Gconf will disable this behavior, allowing me to open /mnt without closing /. Make more sense?09:47
Whistlerwhere i can find ubuntu packages list?09:47
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bluefoxicydohpaz: um, I just hit back09:48
Whistlerwhere i can find ubuntu packages list?09:48
dohpazbluefoxicy, by default there is no 'back' to hit. ^_^09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYne@FoamY:~$ sudo  mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Storage09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYmount: mount point /mnt/Storage does not exist09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYshane@FoamY:~$09:48
bluefoxicydohpaz:  oh, then check that box?  :)09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat am i doin wrong here >.<09:48
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inemonightswim: any ideas?09:49
Whistlercomme on ppl09:49
Whistlerwhere i can find ubuntu packages list?09:49
bimberiWhistler: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages09:49
pollicinaqualche italiano?09:49
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Whistlerthx09:49
LED_scorchedhey all09:49
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dohpazbluefoxicy, I udnerstand I can simply disable it, but I was wondering why ubuntu by default does it, and doesn't offer an intuitive way to do it for people who _know nothing about linux or gnome_, thus making it more difficult for them to navigate without possible hours of searching. :)09:50
tmdcaHi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O09:51
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: You need to "sudo mkdir /mnt/Storage" first09:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok09:51
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pollicinaanyone can help me with jre installation?09:51
LED_scorchedsay... linux newbie here. anyways, i got an urge to try making a server... just because.. so, would i be over my head?09:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbimberi it gives me the same error still09:52
LED_scorchedi'v ehad a few desktops and used them til i was mostly confy with it...but still09:52
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ubuntu_sup all09:53
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: that's unusual - no typos?09:53
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vladuz976does anybody here know much about shell scripts?09:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYno no typos09:54
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: ... such as case sensitivity09:54
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: k09:54
zenlunaticis there a way to get aim encryption for gaim?09:54
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bimberipollicina: See here ...09:55
bimberi!java09:55
ubotujava is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java09:55
alex_-_hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .09:55
Seveaszenlunatic, gaim-encryption09:55
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inemo!python09:55
ubotuinemo: Are you smoking crack?09:55
freddy_hello0o0o0o0o0o0o0!!!!09:55
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WhistlerHiI09:56
luzbelricotahi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???09:56
Whistler:)09:56
inemoubotu: of course09:56
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ubotuinemo: Are you smoking crack?09:56
inemodumb bot :p09:56
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zenlunaticSeveas: okay i installed it so how do i start it?09:57
malakhidohpaz: there was a pretty big debate about that when Hoary first shipped. Shuttleworth feels that it is a change for the better, and i guess it's really his call. I imagine Breezy will incorporate a way to fix it (I hope)09:57
jasoncohenfirestarter doesn't appear to be working properly with UDP ports. i can't block access to webmin on UDP port 10000. i can block TCP ports like SSH fine.09:57
freddy_is a bot?09:57
luzbelricotahi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???09:57
Tatsteris there any equivalent to Redhat's up2date command line app to update a system to all latest version of installed apps?09:57
freddy_!python09:57
ubotufreddy_: I don't know09:57
freddy_lol09:57
freddy_ubotu: of course09:57
ubotuI don't know, freddy_09:57
mats!c09:57
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, mats09:57
alex_-_hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .09:57
freddy_bah...i dont get the crack thing09:57
jasoncohenzenlunatic, aim encryption? you can use gaim-encryption or gaim-otr09:57
Seveasstop abusing the bot09:57
Seveaszenlunatic, check the gaim options09:58
freddy_im not raping the bot09:58
inemofreddy_: you're not special ;)09:58
inemohow do I go about installing python-dev09:58
freddy_haha09:58
inemo!rape09:58
ubotuNo idea, inemo09:58
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mats!ubuntu09:58
ubotuhmm... ubuntu is http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/09:58
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dohpazmalakhi, I'm just thinking from the standpoint of a non-Linux/Gnome user who doesn't know what spatial is, doesn't know what upstream means, has no clue about gconf, and wouldn't think to associate the word Parent with the previous folder they were in. Being a long-time Linux/Gnome user, I easily found my way around, but beginniners would be lost in a sea of technical jargon, and feel less comfortable with an otherwise useful syste09:58
dohpazm. :)09:58
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Seveasinemo, aptitude install python2.4-dev09:58
jasoncohenzenlunatic, gaim-encryption uses RSA keys to encrypt & sign each message. gaim-otr uses a more complex system where each message is encrypted seperately with a temporal key which is then purged09:58
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inemoSeveas: thanks09:59
inemogtg go get my hair cut, brb09:59
Seveas8<09:59
dohpazmalakhi, I look forward then to breezy, if it does give a concise option to disable this.09:59
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jasoncohenzenlunatic, gaim-encryption is in hoary. gaim-otr is in breezy.09:59
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golgorcan anyone pls help me troubleshot my soundproblem... i dont get any sound even though i installed the drivers10:00
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jasoncohenanyone else having problems with firestarter & UDP ports?10:00
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malakhidohpaz: oh, i totally agree with you. I think it was poor decision myself. Like you, i was able to fix it fairly easily, but the point is, I shouldn't have had to in the first place.10:00
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s1m0hi10:00
matsthanks, Seveas :)10:00
s1m0how i can set an icon for the user when i log-in whit gdm?10:00
freddy_hehe i just used the trigger once, and i got the same punishment as someone that used it 4 times. hehe.10:01
s1m0*with10:01
Seveass1m0, name it ~/.face10:01
Seveas(iirc, have to check)10:01
freddy_i love fairness10:01
freddy_:)10:01
zenlunaticjasoncohen: i installed gaim-encryption on hoary but can't figure out how it works10:01
s1m0Seveas, thanks i try10:01
dohpazmalakhi, well I think I understand why the decision was made: to allieviate having multiple folders open (a once large complaint about how spatial works by design). But not very intuitive at all.10:01
malakhiaye10:02
jasoncohenzenlunatic, it's quite easy to use, just create a key and set it to check if other users are using the plugin. that way it'll automatically be enabled if your friends are using it10:02
zenlunaticjasoncohen: how?10:02
dohpazNow, opening new folders in the existing window and having a way to move up (without reverting to browser mode) would, I feel, solve everyone's problems. ;)10:02
golgoranyone wanna help me with getting the sound to work?10:02
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freddy_golgor chipset?10:03
jasoncohenzenlunatic, from gaim- choose tools > preferences > and enable gaim-encryption10:03
s1m0an other question: how i can change the psw when i tape sudo?10:03
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golgorfreddy_, Nforce 210:03
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jasoncohenzenlunatic, then choose the Gaim-Encryption option under Plugins on the left pane.10:03
malakhidohpaz: I just saw on GNOME footnotes a preview for the new nautilus interface. It looks pretty good, and seems to address a lot of the concerns about spatial. Should be interesting when it ships10:03
zenlunaticjasoncohen: there is no arrow to go to "enable gaim-encryption"10:03
jasoncohenzenlunatic, arrow?10:04
jasoncohenzenlunatic, just check the box next to Gaim-Encryption10:04
dohpazmalakhi, really? i don't ever remember seeing that... do you remember about when that article came out?10:04
malakhiyesterday or today.10:04
Seveass1m0, for the photo: gdmphotosetup10:04
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malakhidohpaz: i'll try to find the link... hang on a sec10:04
steve-o!seen oliwer10:04
ubotuoliwer <~oliwer@bon31-1-82-234-80-31.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 48m 10s ago, saying: '..'.10:04
Seveass1m0, sudo wants your password, so to change it, change your pw :)10:04
zenlunaticjasoncohen: oh i didn't restart gaim10:05
jasoncohenzenlunatic, installing the plugin isn't enough for gaim. you need to enable the plugin so it's used. gaim-encryption will then create an RSA Key for you.10:05
dohpazLOL, it got published after my last visit. ^_^10:05
golgorfreddy_, isnt there any way to let ubuntu search for possible drivers or something10:05
jasoncohenzenlunatic, that would help :)10:05
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golgorthink i did that last time, i did some help guide which made it to work10:05
s1m0Seveas, i changed the root pasw, but now the root's psw != sudo's psw10:05
malakhidohpaz: http://gnomedesktop.org/node/231210:05
malakhioh, yeah10:05
jasoncohenzenlunatic, so enable the plugin and then in the plugin config screen make sure you have "broadcast encryption capability" and "automatically encrypt if buddy has plugin" enabled10:05
malakhi: )10:05
Seveass1m0, of course10:05
Seveass1m0, it never is10:05
Seveass1m0: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:05
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s1m0Seveas, thenks very much!10:06
Seveason Ubuntu you need no root password10:06
s1m0Seveas, i would root :P10:06
golgornikkia, are you there?10:06
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steve-omaan , am i crazy or what?! how to delete files in terminal ?!10:06
golgorrm10:07
steve-o:)))10:07
skorasteve-o, use the command rm10:07
golgori asked that earlier today too steve-o :)10:07
steve-oi tried "rem" , del , remove , delete ..10:07
steve-o:))10:07
skorausing 'man rm'10:07
skorawill give more details10:07
steve-oi know , thanks10:07
steve-o:)10:07
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zenlunaticjasoncohen: thanks for your help10:08
golgorSeveas, do you know if there is any troubleshot built in ubuntu?10:08
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jasoncohenzenlunatic, np10:08
zenlunaticjasoncohen: unfortunatly the encryption isn't compatible with aol im encryption for windows10:08
bimberisteve-o: Using "man -k <keyword>" can sometimes help with finding commands10:08
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waterl00re10:09
RichardCwhere can i find a ubuntu deb package for the ati fglrx 8.14.13 xorg drivers?10:09
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waterl00what is the preferred cd/dvd burning prog for you?10:09
Seveasif that isn't in linux-restricted-modules: then no where10:09
Seveas^-- RichardC10:09
Tatsterwhat is the best way to keep an Ubuntu box up to date with updates etc?10:09
skorai use k3b10:09
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jasoncohenzenlunatic, i didn't know aol had encryption in AIM10:10
RichardCSeveas: i dont understand10:10
zenlunaticjasoncohen: there is some third party plugin10:10
jasoncohenzenlunatic, if it's anything like the crap in trillian i wouldn't use it anyways10:10
waterl00i am using gnome..is there a similar to k3b for gnome?#10:10
manazxcdroast ?10:10
jasoncohenzenlunatic, trillian's "Secure IM" doesn't do any authentication so you encrypt traffic but have no assurance of who you're talking to10:10
SeveasRichardC, fglrx is in the linux-restricted-modules package and in xorg-driver-fglrx10:10
bimberiwaterl00: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus10:10
zenlunaticjasoncohen: i see10:10
I-IIEarsskora - If you wanted a program to make a bootable disk from a file tree what app can do that?10:11
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Seveasboth are needed10:11
jasoncohenzenlunatic, gaim-encryption authenticates based on the RSA key and gaim-otr does the same but also provides perfect forward secrecy10:11
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jasoncoheni use gaim-otr10:11
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skoraI-IIEars, hmm...i actually forget.10:11
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atevesis anyone using ,mail-notification for his/her gmail account?10:12
^thehatsrule^i am :P10:12
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atevesso it works?10:12
olmoi have a problem if i log in i get an error saying "an already loaded panel was detected, execution halted". When i click ok it just appears again. It doesn't show up when i start gnome in safe modus tho. How do i get rid of it?10:12
^thehatsrule^but its on windows10:12
^thehatsrule^lol10:12
waterl00is xcdroast still unstable as it was ?10:12
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atevesok, is anyone using GNOME mail-notification for his/her gmail account?10:13
ateves^^10:13
josephHow do I give a user permissions to more files?10:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here good at formatting and installing new hard drives plz pm me i could really use your help10:13
^thehatsrule^try gaim?10:13
Seveasjoseph, chmod10:13
cmathesonjoseph, man chmod10:13
^thehatsrule^i pretty sure theres a plugin for gmail there10:13
Seveasbut use with care10:13
josephThanks...10:13
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, mkfs formats them10:13
jeroen_ChurcH_of_FoamY, sure10:14
Seveasmount mounts them10:14
jeroen_ChurcH_of_FoamY, are you partitioning them or what?10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used qtparted10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYand made an ext3 partition10:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand formated it and commited the changes10:14
jasoncohenzenlunatic, the way i see it- if you find it necessary to use encryption- you should use strong encryption with as much protection as possible- and that usually rules out the joke commercial options that are there to make people feel safe but which in actuality do little more than scramble the data10:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthen i made the nessisary changes to my fstab10:15
pinkoI have a question on win32 codecs in avifile/aviplay.  but I can see this channel is already full of them10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut it still will not let me wright to the hard drive10:15
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steve-oI need help about this theme "Q: How to install Multimedia Codecs?"10:15
jasoncohenzenlunatic, gaim-otr provides perfect forward secrecy and deniability as well as authentication through an RSA key and optionally through a secure ID if you're paranoid10:15
steve-ohe can't find gstreamer0.8-lame , and some others codecs ;|10:16
steve-owrites10:16
pollicinaanyone can help me with jre uninstallation?10:16
jasoncohenzenlunatic, the encryption is done point to point so no one but you and the person you're speaking to can decode the message and once a new message is sent it can't be retreived ever10:16
steve-oroot@ubuntu:/ # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame10:16
steve-oReading package lists... Done10:16
steve-oBuilding dependency tree... Done10:16
steve-oE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame10:16
jeroen_steve-o, it's in multiverse10:17
jeroen_because it's patent-encumbered10:17
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steve-oso , what should I do with lame encoder?10:17
steve-o:(10:17
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, chown/chmod can help there10:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas ok can you teach me how to use those commands?10:17
^thehatsrule^man chmod10:18
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Seveaschown user:group file_or_dilname10:18
Seveasread the manpages, they are really helpful in this case10:18
cellohello everybody. I'm having problem with network. can anyone help me ? I've installed two ethernet interfaces. one of them give me internet conection (eth0); other (eth1) connect with a second machine. I'm trying to share the internet conection but: when i active eth1 I lost the connection with internet...10:18
topylipolliciana: how did you install?10:19
atevesoh there has to be a way to be notified about new gmail emails under gnome10:19
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Seveascello, install firestarter10:19
topylicello: yes, firestarter is the easy way10:19
I-IIEarscello - Firestarter firewall adds a graphical interface. - it made it a lot easier for a newb like me.10:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok i will thank you10:20
olmoi think ubuntu starts gnome-panel twice when it loads. How would i check this?10:20
Seveasolmo, ps10:20
cellojust apt-get it and configure it, that's all ?10:20
olmoalso, it doesn't appear to happen when i start in safe mode10:20
Seveascello, yes10:20
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cellook, thanks guys ! you are great !10:21
olmoSeveas, the second gnome-panel doesn't start but gives an error and tries to start itself (endlessly)10:21
I-IIEarscello - it's in universe communitty supported10:21
pollicinamanually10:21
pollicinapollicina downloaded jre-1-5-etc from sun and ./jre-1-etc but it causes me some troubles and i'd like to remove it10:21
Seveasolmo, odd10:21
malakhiateves: I've used the mail-notification program. It works with gmail pretty well.10:21
Seveasuse `ps f -e | less` to see who launches it10:21
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topylipollicina: it's pretty much just about removing the installation directory, probably somewhere like /usr/lib/java10:22
topylipollicina: possibly "java" links in /usr/bin, and mozilla plugins10:22
celloI've read elsewhere that ubuntu doesn't came with a firewall. is it true ? in this case firestarter should be installed among iptables ?10:22
pollicinatopyli u mean i've simply to cancel the directory?10:22
topylipollicina: delete /usr/lib/java/jre-whatever-you-have10:23
Seveascello, iptables is part of the kernel :)10:23
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Seveasand Ubuntu of course has it10:23
atevesmalakhi: yes, i installed it too, but it always tells me: bad request10:23
cellook, sure.10:23
I-IIEarsWine "Whine" - It's asking to set font size with a registry value. A working Wine config pasted to pastebin would be really helpful...  :)10:23
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pollicinaare u sure topyli? no probs as under windows?10:24
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topylipollicina: no guarantees :) but that's how java installs in linux.10:24
malakhiateves: I'm not sure what's up with that. I stopped using it a little while ago (wasn't really needed).10:24
luzbelricotacan anyone told me how to ad a skin to xmms please ???10:24
luzbelricotai downloaded it10:24
luzbelricotabut i dont know how install10:24
goldfishluzbelricota: what format is it in?10:25
topylipollicina: maybe someone can confirm before you do it, or at least google10:25
goldfishluzbelricota: tar.gz ?10:25
pollicinanobody answered me except u... thanks:-)10:25
daileluzbelricota, you just need to copy the newskin folder to ~/.xmms/Skins/10:25
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daileluzbelricota, new skin folder means the folder contains your new skin10:26
Protequehow do I burn with cdrecord in 2.6? not using scsi-emulation anymore I cant run -scanbus10:26
topylipollicina: this will probably leave a link called "java" in /usr/bin. delete it too10:26
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topyliit will be a dead link anyway10:26
I-IIEarsubotu are you awake?10:27
ubotuI-IIEars: I give up, what is it?10:27
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opirgHey - anyone know of a good program for creating bookmarks?10:33
Seveasfirefox10:34
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daileyeah a browser10:34
opirgie.: we want an image, say 3 by 5 inches, with some text over it, and we need to place the text around the image10:34
Seveasah ok10:34
opirgno, not web bookmarks, a paper bookmark that we want to design and print10:34
Seveasgimp perhaps10:34
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opirgyeah, we are using the Gimp but it's a little difficult10:34
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jeroen_yeah, gimp is way too difficult ;-)10:35
brionyay, security update for PEAR::XML_RPC has a random character causing a parse error :D10:35
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golgorcan anyone help me troubleshot my audio, i cant get it to work10:36
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dailegolgor, have you tried the instruction in the Ubuntu unofficial guide?10:37
golgorhmm?10:37
dailegolgor, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly10:37
golgori searched the wiki and couldnt find anything10:37
Seveasgolgor wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:37
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Seveasdaile, these instructions are utter crap10:38
Seveasdo NOT foolow OR advise ubuntuguide10:38
Seveasand especially that section is crap10:38
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cmathesonwhat exactly is up w/ ubuntuguide... is it out of date, or just lame?10:38
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seth_klame10:38
Seveasjust lame10:38
topyliincorrect10:38
daileSeveas, haha yeah? I didn't know that! After a bunch of tweaks, I dont' know what makes it work LOL10:38
TokenBadwow installed the firestarter firewall on here and man the windows msg spam stuff has increased alot10:38
Seveascmatheson: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.10:38
TokenBadgot 300 attempts on the port in an hour10:38
cmathesonSeveas, ok10:39
nickw /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by10:39
nickwanyone know a package to fix the above error?10:39
Seveasnickw, don't use packages/binaries made for debian10:39
anacronis there a way to change utf-8 for something else in x-chat without disconnecting?10:39
Seveasanacron, no10:39
golgorehhh Seveas, what the hell is this soundproblem hoary?10:39
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nickwthe program throwing that error is some custom built program I am looking at for work, no idea what it is compiled for10:40
Seveasnickw, then compile ot yourself10:40
Seveasit is built for a more recent glibc than Ubuntu has10:40
golgori installed the drivers but it seems ubuntu cant find the device10:40
Seveasgolgor, what kind of device..?10:41
nickwSeveas, I don't have source for this package. Are you saying ot build glibc from source?10:41
Seveasnickw, ouchm you cannot use the program then10:41
Seveasonly on Breezy10:41
nickwok, thanks10:41
golgorwhen i go to the volumecontrol is says "No volumecontrol elements and/or devices was found"10:41
Seveasmaybe you can get a binary built against glibc 2.3.210:41
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Seveasgolgor, what is your soundcard type? and is it pci?10:42
golgorno, integrated10:42
daileSeveas, how come you hate  ubuntuguide so much? I think it's sometimes useful though and it's updated quite often...10:42
golgornforce 210:42
cmathesondaile, look at the link he just gave me10:42
Seveasdaile, see that url10:43
Seveasit is no guide10:43
Seveasguides give information10:43
golgorSeveas, i know last time i tested ubuntu i got the sound to work without any problem10:43
Seveasand the instructions are crap10:43
Seveasgood luck updating when you follow these10:43
golgori used some kind of guide in ubuntu which found the soundcard and everything went find10:43
golgor*fine10:43
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daileSeveas, cmatheson thanks I see it now!10:43
SeveasI've spent hours in here helping people recovering from ubuntuguide created problems...10:43
golgorhaha10:44
cmathesongolgor, what kind of sound card do you have?10:44
golgorcmatheson, integrated nforce210:44
daileSeveas, cmatheson I dont usually need that ubuntuguide anyway, but I thought it's helpful.10:44
golgorand it wont work even though i installed the drivers and everyting10:44
cmathesonis that the same card that ubuntu set up for you last time?10:44
cmathesongolgor, did you turn up the volume?10:45
golgorcmatheson, i cant turn up the volume10:45
golgorit dont find any volume elements or devices10:45
cmathesonwhat does it say when you load the module?10:45
jeroen_golgor, upper right corner10:45
golgor?10:46
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golgorclock and date10:46
golgoronly10:46
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golgordamnit, this sucks10:47
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jeroen_golgor, right mouse button -> add to panel10:48
golgoryea10:48
golgorand add volume control10:48
golgornothing happens10:48
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golgorthe problem isnt really the volume, rather that ubuntu cant find my sound device or something...10:49
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cmathesongolgor: so what does it say when you try to load the module for the nforce?10:50
eruinoooh, gnome-panel has support for "blinking" in breezy ;)10:50
Seveaseeeek10:51
golgorload module?10:51
cmathesoneruin, what is blinking?10:51
jasoncohenis there a way to start firestarter without root privileges in order to see blocked connections10:51
Seveaseruin, I hope it has support for disabling that too10:51
cmathesongolgor, have you loaded the module for your sound card?10:51
eruincmatheson, notifications when an app has news for you10:51
eruinala WM URGENT10:51
cmathesoneruin: ooooh10:51
golgori have no idea how to do... i asked several times but no one seems to know :P10:51
cmathesoneruin: like that ghetto blue blinking when new internet windows pop up in windows?10:51
golgori started using ubuntu yesterday, im a total newb :P10:52
eruinthat gnome.org bug has been on there for years10:52
Seveascmatheson, yes :(10:52
cmathesongolgor: ok, hold up10:52
cmathesonSeveas: arg10:52
eruincmatheson, no, it10:52
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eruinit10:52
eruinit's a tad more pretty, but in essence the same I guess10:52
eruin(and I have trouble using my new lappy keybard)10:52
cmathesongolgor: i think you need binary drivers for that nforce junk... do you have 3d acceleration working yet?10:53
Deftdoes anyone have any news on when breezy will be a sensible option for someone who is bored and on holiday?10:54
golgori got the binary drivers, and installed them10:54
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jeroen_Deft, now?10:54
cmathesongolgor: ok, so is the 3d accel working?10:54
jeroen_you can file bugs all day! Gone is your boredom :-)10:54
golgorand no, i haven't installed any graphic drivers yet10:54
cmathesongolgor: oh ok10:54
eruinDeft, colony2 is out, and xorg is back to normal, so this is probably as good a time as any10:54
Deftexcellent, might just give that a go then10:54
cmathesongolgor: try loading the nvaudio module (modprobe nvaudio)10:54
Deftthanks10:54
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jeroen_Deft, better install it on a separate partition though, just in case10:55
golgorcmatheson, how?10:55
eruinDeft, though the 2.6.12 kernel is a mountain of trouble to me10:55
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Deftjeroen_, a good idea, but I don't have enough disk for that, it's all or, most likely, nothing10:55
brion_https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 <- fatal parse error in security update package10:55
eruinI have to use the old hoary kernel :/10:55
jeroen_Deft, well, :/ be warned!10:56
cmathesongolgor: type 'sudo modprobe nvaudio' at the command prompt10:56
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Deftjeroen_, always am, I've already broken my install once back near the start of breezy :)10:56
eruinit10:56
eruinit's good to be back in a daily package updates state ;)10:57
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siorfinquestion regarding a bootup issue10:57
golgorcmatheson, FATAL: nvaudio not found10:57
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siorfinfailsafe check failed please repair manually and reboot & unattached inode, root partition10:57
siorfinanyone know how to fix this,10:58
arentiedoes anyone know how to fix hibernating?10:58
cmathesongolgor: ok, you don't have the binary sound drivers10:58
siorfini have seen fsck /target as solution but i have no clue how to login as root and use it since root use is disabled10:59
cmathesongolgor: i don't know that there is a ubuntu package... you may have to search around nvidia's website (go to the linux section and download the nforce stuff)10:59
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Burgundaviacmatheson, nforce2?11:00
golgorahh, wait a sec... the binary drivers gave me an error, got a tip from nikkia to install another kind of drivers, a .run11:00
cmathesonBurgundavia: yeah11:00
Burgundaviacmatheson, those work ootb, or they should11:00
Burgundaviacmatheson, no need for binary junk11:00
cmathesonBurgundavia: hmm, golgor's aren't working11:00
cmathesonBurgundavia: what module is it supposed to use?11:01
Burgundaviashould just work11:01
cmathesonBurgundavia: and if it doesn't?11:01
cmathesonBurgundavia: do you run that chipset?11:01
dnakatahmmm11:01
siorfinso anyone know how to fix bootup issues involving the root partition, says problems basically then does a forced check then cant complete it and says to manual repair as root but i cant login as root since root is disabled, how do i fix this?11:01
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BurgundaviaI have 2 nforce2 boards that I have run, and both worked ootb11:01
s1m0see tou11:02
cmathesonsiorfin: you could reboot in single user mode11:02
s1m0Seveas, thanks!11:02
siorfinok how do i reboot in single user mode?11:02
golgorBurgundavia, mine wont work11:02
ompaulsiorfin, if you use the 'rescue' boot option you will end up in single user mode where you can fsck -y the partitions that are not mounted11:02
Burgundaviagolgor, did you do a default install?11:02
cmathesonsiorfin: add 'single' to your kernel command line (or i'm guessing the "rescue" mode in the grub menu is single-user... but i'm not positive (i've never tried it before)11:03
golgordefault ubuntu install yea11:03
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ompaulsiorfin, I usually reboot after I do a fsck - you can mount -a but to be honest I always like to check that it is all okay11:03
Burgundaviagolgor, hoary I assume?11:03
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golgoryep11:03
Burgundaviagolgor, which board do you have?11:03
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golgora7n8x-e deluxe11:04
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Burgundaviahmm11:04
bluefoxicyhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/CollapsedPreferences11:04
Burgundaviaand you have no sound?11:04
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golgorno sound at all11:05
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, there is work upstream about that as well11:05
gbicAnyone know if dd or mkisofs can make images of the _whole_ / system?11:05
siorfinok we tried control-d to go into the grub menu and tried mount to see what /dev/hda# needed to have fcsk but it said invalid command or something11:05
gbicIm trying to make a bootable backup image of my current setup11:05
bluefoxicygbic:  for archive purposes I recommend squashfs.11:06
siorfini tried once before to add single to the end of the kernel line to boot into single user mode but it wouldnt save the change, how do i save the change?11:06
golgorworth a try to reinstall, Burgundavia?11:06
bluefoxicygbic:  ah, bootable backup image heh.11:06
bluefoxicynevermind me.11:06
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  who's working with them.11:06
gbicyea, thats my goal11:06
gbicbut Im open to alternatives11:06
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, no idea11:06
gbicinstall is easy enough, just want to keep my existing filesystem setup11:07
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siorfincmatheson, how do i make it save the "single" command to the end of the kernel line, i tried doing this once before for something else but it wouldn't save the change upon reboot11:07
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  should I reopen bug 10268?11:07
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, email the ubuntu-devel mailing list with that wiki page11:08
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  it was closed with recommendation that it be discussed on the ML or wiki11:08
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bluefoxicyok11:08
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  openning discussion != reopenning bug for future review after discussion?11:08
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Burgundaviabluefoxicy, bugzilla is for specific stuff like "renamed tab" or "consolidate tab"11:09
Burgundavianot wholesale stuff like that11:09
bimberisiorfin: Type "e" in grub to edit the boot commands.  When finished, type "b" to boot using the edited commands11:09
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davidwhy wont it let me emerge "engage-9999" even after ive unmasked the package?11:10
ilpumI own a LG XFree mp3-player and have some problems with it under Ubuntu 5.411:10
arentieI successfully configured my Wifi.  Now, I can't hibernate...can anyone help?11:10
ompaulsiorfin, in the file  /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a value set  for 'timeout' it is the gap at the start when you need to hit a key to stop grub from the usual to get rescue values - Serious question - have you a live cd?11:10
kbrooksdavid: offtopic, #gentoo11:10
davidkbrooks, lol sry11:11
ilpumThere does not seem to be any firmware available for Linux but the memory was correctly found as "520M Removable Media"11:11
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kbrooksdavid: maybe the package is hard masked. #gentoo11:11
[|HuGO|] hola11:11
ilpumProblem is, when I delete something, it disappears, but no memory is freed11:11
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  sent off.11:12
davidkbrooks, are u in #gentoo?11:12
siorfinompaul, no i dont unfortunately and it wouldnt do me any good either way as my cdrom is trashed and my replacement form newegg hasnt arrived yet11:12
siorfinlaptop11:12
kbrooksdavid: no, I was hinting you11:12
bluefoxicydavid:  r u a hot grrl?11:12
davidbluefoxicy, only on weekends11:12
kbrooksdavid: please go to #gentoo. btw, as much as i like gentoo, i dont like compiling11:13
Deftdid this channel just suddenly go wrong?11:13
siorfinompaul, getting to the bootup menu is not the problem, it is set to the default of 2seconds which is plenty of time to hit esc but last time i tried editing the kernel line adding single to the end of the line it didnt save the value, how do i save the value is the question11:13
davidkbrooks, can i pm u, no one will answer me in #gentoo11:13
kbrooksdavid: No.11:13
bluefoxicykbrooks:  don't do it, he'll bombard you with single letter words11:13
ilpumIs there any program which is able to format memory connected by usb?11:13
ompaulsiorfin, let me test that with a quick reboot to be 100% certain I think you just type rescue at that point11:13
naliothdeft <sarcasm>and what brought that comment up?</sarcasm>11:14
davidbluefoxicy, who are u11:14
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osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working11:14
kbrooksdavid: I kindly request you please join #gentoo.11:14
bimberinalioth: :)11:14
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bluefoxicydavid:  Someone who didn't come from Yahoo! Instant Messenger.  You need to learn to spell 'you'.11:15
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davidkbrooks, im in #gentoo, but can u help me? plz11:15
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gotonpois there an "ubuntu tested hardware" list on a website somewhere?11:15
gotonpogoogle is failing me11:15
naliothgotonpo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportedHardware11:16
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport11:16
jeroen_http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/11:16
Seveasah nvm, listen to Nalioth :)11:16
jeroen_maybe11:16
gotonpothank you thank you!11:16
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Meznalioth: going back for membership tonight?>11:17
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dnakatadoes anybody here use the xflame screensaver?11:18
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dnakataif so, i have a really neat xbm you can use with it11:19
ompaulsiorfin, what happens is you press escape, you are then provided with a menu, you choose recovery from that11:19
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_qosi downloaded a .patch file, but i dont know how to use... can someone help me?11:20
siorfinompaul, ok NOT single user mode?11:20
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ompaulsiorfin, it is single user mode that is returned to you11:20
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siorfinompaul, we chose recovery but it gives the same errors then says enter root or hit control-d11:20
arentiehibernate...why can't ubuntu hibernate?11:20
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siorfinompaul, but there is no root password in ubuntu so im stuck11:20
gbicsudo su -11:21
ompaulahhhh11:21
gbicpasswd root11:21
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gbicand change11:21
dsevilladoes breezy eog work?11:21
dsevillahi all11:21
ompaulgbic, the machine is not getting far enough to allow that11:21
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gbicboot in rescue mode?11:21
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snowblink_qos: man patch11:21
ompaulgbic, trhere is no working cdrom with that box11:21
siorfingbic, boot error in rescue mode, enter root password to continue or hit control-d11:22
naliotharentie: you are not alone, most users can't hibernate their laptops11:22
gbicuhh?11:22
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ompaulsiorfin, I have no way of helping you with that one11:22
gbicyea, I cant hibernate mine11:22
osirisAnyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working11:22
lotiaanyone dual booting with 2 hd's11:22
lotiaprimary win xp and secondary ubuntu?11:22
siorfinif i run the ubuntu install cd and type rescue once i get a working cdrom i should be able to fix it?11:23
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jeroen_lotia, can be done11:23
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gbicyes siorfin11:23
ompaulsiorfin, yes, but you said that the CDrom was not working or at least that was my take on it11:23
lotiajeroen_: i know it can, but for some reason when i boot windows it messes up grub when grub is installed in the mbr11:23
siorfinompaul, the replacement is on its way from newegg, it is in indiana currently11:23
lotiajeroen_: have you heard of any similar experiences11:24
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dsevillais eye of gnome (eog) working in breezy? I always get an empty window (no image)11:24
ompaulsiorfin, what is its eta?11:24
jeroen_lotia, negative11:24
siorfinhonestly i dont know11:24
siorfincouple days probably11:24
jeroen_will happen with reinstall, not reboot :/11:25
siorfinfedex standard shipping so who knows11:25
ompaulsiorfin, do you know anyone with the same machine in your locale?11:25
siorfinnope11:25
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lotiajeroen_: for some reason whenever i boot into windows, it messes up my mbr11:25
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lotiaanyone using the windows bootloader to boot into grub here?11:25
Seveaslotia, that would be molesting grub ;)11:25
lotiaif so, could you please tell me how you did it. i am going NUTS now.11:25
ompaulsiorfin, well that should be okay when you get the new one11:26
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naliothlotia: NTLDR is notorious about not wanting to deal iwth linux11:27
aCiD2im guessing its a bad idea to unmount my root partition in linux?11:27
aCiD2while im in gnome11:27
naliothlotia: try googling "boot manager site:sourceforge.net"11:27
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Burgundavialotia, you need to do the other way around11:28
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vircuserHello11:29
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haroldHello again, all11:31
naliothharold the mac man?11:31
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haroldThat would be me!11:32
haroldHow do I exit irssi?11:32
goldfish /quit11:32
haroldThat easy, huh?11:33
goldfishyes11:33
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zukalkharold,  /exit works too11:33
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lotiaBurgundavia: i've tried it, pos windows messes up grub anytime i boot it11:33
Vishello everyone, newbie here, need installation help11:33
jeroen_woops, I tried to help harold!11:33
lotiaman i really hate windows11:33
Seveasroflol :)11:33
jeroen_lotia, delete it11:33
Seveasjeroen_, fool :)11:34
haroldThanks, zukalk.11:34
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jeroen_Seveas, yep :p11:34
lotiajeroen_ need it for certain apps11:34
Seveaslotia, which?11:34
lotiaDVTS client11:34
haroldSo, I've managed to install Ubuntu...11:34
lotiaconference xp11:34
Seveashmm, I don't even know what DVTS is :)11:34
Nativeanyone here use an Inspiron 9300 or an HP zd8000 with Ubuntu?11:34
naliothharold: congratulations!11:34
Seveasconference xp -> gnomemeeting11:34
harold...I moved the kernel and initrd.img using sftp yesterday.11:35
haroldnoliath: thanks!11:35
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naliothharold: i hope you're not on ubuntu now11:35
lotiaSeveas: not equivalent. i have to participate in already existing conferences. not like netmeeting.11:35
Seveasah ok11:35
haroldnoliath: No, I'm not11:35
VisNot sure if I'm in the right channel, but need some assistance doing an installation11:35
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Seveasmaybe wine runs these applications11:35
haroldnoliath: Why do you say that?11:35
naliothVis: what is the problem?11:35
naliothharold: visual irc?11:35
lotiaDVTS Is a very high resolution streaming video client11:35
haroldYes11:35
Seveashmm11:35
lotianeeds 30mpbs11:36
Visnalioth thank you for responding11:36
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lotialinux client exists, but it really sucks.11:36
Seveasouch11:36
Seveasthat's a lot of b/w11:36
naliothVis: the /topic says "Just Ask"11:36
haroldnoliath: When I attempto to boot Ubuntu, it reports that it's unable to load X11:36
naliothlotia: do you have a high horsepower computer?11:36
Seveasharold, have you installed Breezy?11:36
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naliothharold: how much ram do you have?11:36
haroldSeveas: No, Warty11:36
lotianalioth > 2ghz11:36
haroldnoliath: 6411:36
naliothlotia: would qemu be an option?11:37
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haroldWarty apparently needs 32, wants 64.11:37
Seveasharold, why? Hoary is more recent and X works better in it11:37
naliothharold: have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to try to find the right way?11:37
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zukalkhow do i find out which port is used by Gnome Meeting?11:37
haroldSeveas: I understand Hoary wants 128MB RAM.11:37
lotianalioth: unfortunately not i must have true dual boot. also want to know whats causing the problem11:37
lotiait is driving me totally batty.11:37
VisDoing an installation on an old PIII, starts installing, gets to 36% and stays there 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di'11:37
haroldnalioth: That's just the answer I was looking for!11:37
Seveasharold, well, if you have that little memory, warty+gnome won't work either11:37
naliothlotia: just offering wild-ass options (that might jog someones thinking)11:38
inemoso how do I install python-dev again?11:38
naliothharold: VESA driver is your friend11:38
Seveasharold, it's xserver-xfree86 on warty11:38
sjoerdzukalk: the gnomemeeting faq has a lot of info about that11:38
Seveasnot sxerver-xorg11:38
haroldSeveas: What would work?11:38
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zukalksjoerd, thanks11:38
haroldnalioth: What is VESA driver?11:38
inemonalioth: whats the best VNC server again? the built in one I can't connect to..11:38
Seveasharold, hoary+xfce11:38
sjoerdsusus: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/11:38
naliothharold: did you end up with hoary or warty?11:38
lotiahave been attempting to fix it for a week or so and LOVE ubuntu. but have never run into something this annoying.11:38
haroldSeveas: Thank you11:38
Seveasharold, install hoary with server optioan and install xfce of fluxbox on top11:38
haroldNalitoth: Warty11:38
lotiaand i'm a reasonably experienced linux user11:38
arentieunregister_netdevice:waiting for wlan0 to become free. Usage Count = 111:39
naliothmost video cards manufactured in teh last 4 years are VESA compliant, meaning the vesa driver will get them going11:39
haroldnalioth: I went with Warty since the RAM requirments appeared to be lower11:39
arentiedoes anyone know how to fix this?11:39
naliothharold: any reason why not hoary?11:39
Seveasharold, it actually is the other way around11:39
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inemoso how do I install python-dev again?11:39
Seveasbecause for hoary there is XFCE and flubbox11:39
naliothharold: like seveas said, you can upgrade to hoary, and run fluxbox or xfce instead of gnome11:39
haroldnalioth: I wasn't certain about the RAM req's, so I went with Warty (which I was certain of)11:39
Seveasaptitude install python2.4-dev11:40
haroldSeveas: I do have Hoary downloaded...11:40
inemothanks Seveas11:40
harold...and burned11:40
naliothSeveas: is that a fat DM?11:40
inemoSeveas: run as sudo?11:40
Seveasinemo, of course :)11:40
naliothharold: it's easier to just change your sources and update11:40
inemothought it might be11:40
haroldnalioth: I've been reading alot about xfce in the forums this past week or so.11:40
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Seveasnalioth, xfce is moderately fat, fluxbox is thin11:40
haroldnalioth: I'm not afraid to try it (sfce)11:40
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hoslerdoesnt 'make clean' deinstall the application i installed from souce?11:41
cmathesonnalioth: i like openbox, it does everything gnome does w/out wasting my ram11:41
haroldSeveas: So fluxbox would be better for 64MB RAM?11:41
hoslersource*11:41
Seveashosler, no11:41
Seveasharold, yes11:41
hoslerSeveas, what is the command to desintall?11:41
cmathesonhosler: make uninstall11:41
Seveashosler, there is none11:41
Seveasthat's why you should have used checkinstall...11:41
naliothcmatheson: harold is the one iwth the old-world powerbook11:42
haroldnoliath: I'll probably be getting more RAM soon; I picked up some on eBay but the RAM (supposed to be 256) is 128.11:42
cmathesonnalioth: sorry11:42
cmathesonharold: i'm running openbox on my laptop w/ 128M, it runs great (even w/ firefox going w/ a bunch of tabs open)11:42
naliothharold: everything in its time, i'm amazed ya got the old thang workin11:42
haroldWell, it appears to be...11:43
harold...when it boots, however...11:43
cmathesonharold: just install/run 'docker' so that you can get the system-tray stuff from gnome11:43
harold...it stops when attempting to configure X11:43
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haroldcmatheson: I currently only have 64MB RAM.11:44
naliothharold: running the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will help you solve that11:44
haroldnalioth: I'm definitely about to do that (plugging in laptop's ethernet)11:44
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cmathesonharold: shouldn't be a big deal (it's obviously going to be slower than a modern computer, but if you run slimmer applications (stay the crap away from the gnome desktop and nautilus), then you'll get by just fine11:45
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Gottihullo11:45
Seveashi11:45
jeroen_hello11:45
haroldWhat is the proper shutdown command?11:45
haroldcmatheson: Gotcha11:46
Seveasshutdown :)11:46
jeroen_sudo shutdown11:46
cmathesonharold: shudtown -h now11:46
haroldjeroen: Thank you11:46
jeroen_man shutdown for info11:46
Seveasshud town.... hm, is that next to meta city?11:46
Seveas;)11:46
cmathesonhaha11:46
Gottiwoooow lol11:46
haroldIt's says the system is going to explode NOW!11:46
jeroen_yep, that's right11:46
naliothharold: no, that would be a windows shutdown11:47
haroldjeroen, LOL11:47
cmathesonharold: don't worry, new hard-drives are cheap these days ;)11:47
haroldcmatheson: I picked up this PowerBook at Goodwill; I hope I don't have to spend too much more11:47
jeroen_harold, the system is quite inexperienced with these things like 'shutdown'11:47
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naliothharold: jeroen_ is correct, linux is designed to only be shutdown once a year or so11:48
cmathesonharold: haha, you're computer's going to be fine11:48
haroldBRB, everyone11:48
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naliotharentie: Industrial Light & Magic had a linux router running for over 7 years w/o shutting down11:48
Seveasnalioth, I call that bad security practice11:48
haroldYes, but what about laptops?  PowerBooks?  They can't sleep forever, can they?11:48
Gottiits kinda impossible not to shutdown if you have a dual boot sytem tho...11:49
naliothbloody hell i hate autocomplete11:49
jeroen_Seveas, breaking records *is* dangerous, Seveas11:49
naliothSeveas: it wasnt connected to the outside, it was internal11:49
Seveasnalioth, ah ok11:49
Seveasbut still :)11:49
Seveasuptime is a much over-esteemed statistic11:49
naliothharold: sleep as long as they have a trickle of power11:49
haroldAre ethernet cables supposed to be hooked up when the computer is down or asleep?11:49
SeveasMy server never has an uptime of > 2 months11:49
VisInstallation hangs at 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di', can anyone help with this11:50
hodgmanalright, I'm trying to change my screen resolution on my desktop, eventhough I have 1600x1280 set in my xorg.conf I can't see the option in the drop down in under settings> preferences> screen resolution11:50
naliothharold: depends on the OS11:50
jeroen_harold, doesn't matter11:50
haroldI've always thought ethernet should be plugged in when the computer is off; at least that's the case with SCSI.11:50
Gottiwho is peer, and why is he resetting my connection?!11:50
naliothharold: on OSX, it doesnt matter, and i'm not sure on linux, and if ya plug in with windows sleepin, it'll freak the hell out when it wakes up11:50
haroldSo it sounds like Windows actually *wants* to be awake when you plug that cable in.11:51
naliothhodgman: running hoary?11:51
hodgmannalioth: yeah11:51
naliothharold: not really11:51
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naliothharold: if the ethernet isnt present when windows boots up, you have to restart for it to 'see' it11:51
haroldnalioth: Are you on a portable?11:51
naliothhodgman: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal11:51
dualBhelphey all11:51
hodgmannalioth: will do11:52
hoslerI get 'FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).' when i try to play a dvd in mplayer installed with Synaptic11:52
naliothharold: atm, portables are all i own11:52
GottiO_O11:52
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haroldBRB11:52
naliothhosler: ya got your restricted packages installed?11:52
hoslernalioth: how do i check?11:52
Gottiwooo finally got this god-forsaken broadcom chip working11:52
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VisInstallation stalls on 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di'. Any Ideas??11:53
hoslernalioth: synamptic says i have linux-restricted-modules-386 installed11:53
naliothhosler: have you added universe and multiverse to your repositorys?11:53
hoslernalioth: i have no idea11:53
naliothhosler: ok then11:53
nalioths_doghosler: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:54
nalioths_doghosler: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:54
haroldCan power outages screw up your system?11:54
jeroen_harold, possibly, but the risk isn't that high11:54
cmathesonharold: not really, journalled file-systems tend to take care of things these days11:54
ttrdoes anyone know the name of a unbunto directly installed which a a plane game controlled by the mouse ??11:54
naliothharold: yes11:54
dualBhelpif i from a live cd, in this case sysresccd I run grub --config-file=/whereicopyedit to on the live sestion/menu.lst --no-floppy11:54
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haroldLinux isn't a journalled filesystem, is it?11:54
naliothttr: xplane?11:55
dualBhelphow do i get my boot infomation once grub goes/>11:55
jeroen_linux isn't a filesystem11:55
keikoznot linux11:55
dualBhelp?11:55
cmathesonharold: it isn't a journalled filesystem, but there are many journalled filesystems avaliable for linux11:55
keikozext3, one of the filesystems used11:55
hoslernalioth: it worked when i just downloaded the source and compiled, but i had no sound then. So i decided to uninstall it and use the synaptic version.11:55
jeroen_ext3 is one of the most-used11:55
haroldext3 is journalled, keikoz?11:55
ttrnalioth: maybe i'll search for this one on google thx11:55
keikozyes11:55
cmathesonas is reiserfs, xfs, jfs, etc.11:55
flodineanyone use teamspeak here mime wont open11:55
haroldkeikoz: Good news.11:55
naliothhosler: this is not about the file you just told me about11:55
haroldSince I just had two power outages today.11:55
naliothhosler: read the URLs my dog sent you11:55
dualBhelpim basically trying to use grub strate off the cd to boot into ubuntu11:56
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dualBhelpanybody?11:56
dualBhelpis this possebla?11:56
keikozthat didnt empeached my motherboard to die ^^11:56
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naliothdualBhelp: only to boot into the liveCD11:56
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madmavricanybody have problems connecting to shoutcast servers with xmms in here?11:57
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jeroen_madmavric, nope11:57
dualBhelpnalioth oh so i cant get grub to boot ubnutu with syscd?11:57
jeroen_not with beep-media-player which is mostly the same11:57
naliothdualBhelp: syscd?11:57
madmavrici can play mp3 format, but for some reason the only internet radio stations i can connect to are ogg format11:57
Seveas!seen elmo11:57
ubotui haven't seen 'elmo', Seveas11:57
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Visnalioth: any thoughts on my problem?11:57
dualBhelpnalioth sysresccd.org11:58
dualBhelpits a live cd11:58
madmavriceverything was working fine yesterday11:58
naliothVis: install from source, using apt11:58
ttrnalioth: i don't think it's this one . it's more an arcade game11:58
naliothVis: commands are (in a terminal)11:58
dualBhelpnalioth with lots of resscue tools11:58
omegadchello folks11:58
naliothVis: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"11:59
madmavricsomehow i must have broken xmms11:59
madmavricperhaps when i installed audacity11:59
naliothVis: "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"11:59
omegadchow do i upgrade gaim?11:59
naliothVis: when complete, "sudo dpkg -i <pkgname.deb>"11:59
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naliothdualBhelp: i've never heard of it, if you want to fix your grub, check this outhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:00

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