[12:00] <BluesRocker> it's intel 536ep modem
[12:00] <cheezee> why? .13 is so beautiful
[12:00] <eyequeue> hooligan:  thank YOU for doing the installfest :)
[12:01] <Burgundavia> cheezee, .13 has not been released yet
[12:01] <eyequeue> cheezee:  it needs to be thoroughly tested agsinst everything else to be a default kernel ... all architechtures and such ... if .13 has something important, it might go in, or have that driver/feature backported to .12 i guess
[12:02] <Burgundavia> eyequeue, I seriously doubt it, but little things might go in
[12:02] <eyequeue> cheezee:  basically the point is "well-tested on everything" so that "it just works" for newbies, etc
[12:03] <eyequeue> Burgundavia:  yeah, i'm thinking of something like a common onboard laptop wofi driver (like my ipw2200, which is already supported, but the only example i have handy)
[12:03] <cheezee> eyequeue: thanks.. i understand
[12:03] <Burgundavia> eyequeue, yes drivers != core kernel features
[12:04] <eyequeue> s/wofi/wifi/
[12:04] <eyequeue> i'm sort of hoping any new features will be in 2.7 not 2.6 (if ever we get a 2.7, heh)
[12:05] <airmikey> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[12:06] <airmikey> i get that when i do....../configure
[12:06] <eyequeue> airmikey:  try "sudo apt-get install build-essential" first
[12:06] <Burgundavia> airmikey, do you have build-essential installed?
[12:06] <Burgundavia> airmikey, by default, no compilers are installed
[12:06] <airmikey> let me see
[12:06] <airmikey> ok
[12:08] <mirak> hi
[12:08] <benplaut> hi
[12:08] <mirak> anyone is good with DVD's ?
[12:08] <concept10> Anyone have experience with Mambo?
[12:08] <mirak> I got a problem reading with xine a dvd that I made
[12:08] <benplaut> i'm good with frisbie'ing them :)
[12:09] <airmikey> thx guys loading build- essential
[12:11] <airmikey> configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm
[12:14] <D1-> how do I remove unwanted modules from loading at startup?
[12:14] <Seveaz> add them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:14] <mwe> airmikey, maybe you need xlibs-dev
[12:15] <airmikey> ill try that
[12:15] <thespiritoftal> how can i update firefox?
[12:16] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, why would you want that?
[12:16] <Seveas> Ubuntu's firefix is the most recent available...
[12:16] <Seveas> firefox even
[12:16] <thespiritoftal> but when I open the extensions site it says new update is avaliable
[12:16] <Seveas> thespiritoftal: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[12:17] <airmikey> mwe: that was it ...right on
[12:17] <jasoncohen> thenostradamus, that's because ubuntu backported the security fixes from 1.0.4 so your firefox is still showing as 1.0.2
[12:17] <thespiritoftal> sry didnt understand what you mean
[12:17] <concept10> I am trying to make a server, how do I make sure to install php 4.2.x?
[12:17] <Seveas> concept10, you can't afaik
[12:17] <gbic> I think youll want 4.3*
[12:17] <Seveas> not from the repositories at least
[12:18] <Seveas> but yeah, why specifically 4.2.x?
[12:18] <gbic> did he say he was building an insecure server ?
[12:18] <gbic> :)
[12:18] <concept10> actually +> 4.2.x
[12:18] <concept10> =>
[12:18] <Seveas> :)
[12:18] <concept10> heh
[12:18] <Seveas> aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4
[12:19] <concept10> Seveas, you have any experience with mambo CMS?
[12:19] <Seveas> not at all
[12:19] <mark__> hello
[12:20] <concept10> k
[12:20] <Seveas> I've written my own cms-like thing :)
[12:20] <mark__> i got a question bout kubuntu on a g3
[12:20] <gbic> seveas, youre pretty familiar ith php?
[12:20] <gbic> with*
[12:20] <mark__> i got a question bout kubuntu on a g3
[12:20] <unome> apt-get install php4 php4-mysql  |  apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4 <- would that work Seveas?
[12:21] <nalioth> mark__: ask
[12:21] <mark__> it starts booting from the cd but yaboot cant find a kernel
[12:21] <Seveas> unome, almost
[12:21] <Seveas> gbic, sort of :)
[12:21] <mark__> its trying to get it from the hdd
[12:21] <unome> ok, apachectl restart BAM!
[12:21] <gbic> mind if I pm ya quickly
[12:22] <Seveas> not at all
[12:22] <gbic> jsut a question to see if I should bother with this or not
[12:22] <rtate> can anyone help me with amarok?
[12:22] <mark__> the current drive in it is a old windows drive
[12:22] <sobralense> is k3b the most complete interface for burnning cds?
[12:22] <Seveas> sobralense, they say so
[12:22] <unome> k3b rawks :)
[12:23] <Seveas> it's such a pity that it's a KrapDE program
[12:23] <mark__> so it does not have any linux partitions on it
[12:23] <rtate> im not getting any sound coming out, and when i hit play it does nothing
[12:23] <unome> :(
[12:23] <sobralense> I'm trying some differents here..
[12:23] <concept10> what package do I need to install mysql? common, server?
[12:23] <Seveas> server
[12:23] <sobralense> Seveas, the only negative point.. =] 
[12:23] <nalioth> mark__: is the cd good?
[12:23] <gbic> depends on your usage concept
[12:23] <gbic> you probably would need client and server
[12:24] <nalioth> mark__: did you run a md5 checksum on the kubuntu cd?
[12:24] <mark__> nope
[12:24] <Joslyn> Hi
[12:25] <nalioth> mark__: the problem lies either in the cd or the cd drive
[12:25] <mark__> i just D/L the iso
[12:25] <Joslyn> How do I make polypaudio to use ALSA dmix?
[12:25] <nalioth> mark__: use your md5 checksums
[12:26] <mark__> u think i should just brun it again
[12:26] <freddy> yes brun it again
[12:26] <nalioth> mark__: check the integrity of the iso image
[12:26] <concept10> how do I ensure that MySQL, XML and Zlib support built into PHP>
[12:27] <budluva> concept10, what are you trying to do if you dont mind me asking?
[12:27] <budluva> concept10, run a webserver?
[12:27] <mark__> why is yaboot trying to boot from disk00 partition 2 to begin with
[12:27] <Seveas> concept10, xml is by default, zlib too
[12:27] <Seveas> for mysql: aptitude install php4-mysql
[12:27] <concept10> Yes, I am trying to setup a Mambo CMS server
[12:28] <nalioth> mark__: i have 0 idea, if you want to d/l something else, d/l the ubuntu installer
[12:28] <sam_> hey everybody. i have a quick question about installing ubuntu. i want to install /home and /usr on one partition, and / and the rest on another. is this possible in any way?
[12:28] <nalioth> sam_: sure thing
[12:28] <Seveas> sam_, no
[12:28] <sam_> nalioth: how?
[12:28] <Seveas> nalioth, 2 distinct subdirs on 1 partition?
[12:29] <mark__> the installer is what i got not the live cd
[12:29] <nalioth> Seveas: sam fstab will fix that i believe
[12:29] <hosler> i cant get sound to work with mplayer. someone help me please.
[12:29] <Seveas> nalioth, 2 folders on 1 partition...?
[12:29] <nalioth> mark__: the kubuntu or ubuntu install cd? (md5 check you iso image)
[12:29] <Seveas> sam_, there's one thing that might work: mount one partition under /home
[12:29] <nalioth> Seveas: why not?
[12:29] <mark__> thanks
[12:29] <Seveas> move /usr to /home/usr
[12:29] <mark__> ill try
[12:29] <Seveas> and ln -s /home/usr /usr
[12:29] <mirak> wich gnome app can burn dvd's with more options than Nautilus ?
[12:30] <Seveas> but this is icky :)
[12:30] <sam_> nalioth: im a noob when it comes to linux. how do i use fstab with the ubuntu installer? as far as i can remember it only handles one command and thats "server"
[12:30] <nalioth> Seveas: why not do what he wants with "ln"?
[12:30] <hosler> What is the gnome application that is a docker that looks like the docker in mac os X?
[12:30] <Seveas> nalioth, just typed that out :D
[12:30] <nalioth> sam_: you'll have to install it first, afaik, then do your partition dancing
[12:30] <eyequeue> what is a docker?
[12:30] <nalioth> Seveas: but he shoulnt need to mount in his homedir
[12:31] <hosler> Its a thing that holds all your application links on your desktop
[12:31] <eyequeue> gnome-panel then?
[12:31] <Seveas> nalioth, i meant:   /dev/hdx    /   ext3       and /dev/hdy     /home    ext3
[12:31] <nalioth> hosler: you are talking about superkaramba
[12:31] <nalioth> Seveas: i missed it, and i'm sure he did too
[12:32] <nalioth> Seveas: you robot you
[12:32] <Seveas> :)
[12:32] <sam_> nalioth: so, i could just "move" /usr to another parition right now? how do i do that? (sorry if im being really noob :D )
[12:32] <nalioth> sam_: are you installed now?
[12:32] <Seveas> robot is going to hibernate, have to get up for a job interview in 6 1/2 hours :)
[12:32] <sam_> yea syre
[12:32] <sam_> nalioth: yes
[12:32] <eyequeue> Seveas:  good luck
[12:32] <nalioth> then yes, you can start your linking
[12:33] <claint> i got glxgears working ok when i am root. but when i try to run it as a regular user, i get libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted); libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and then it segfaults. is there a permission error somewhere? anyone know the fix?
[12:33] <sam_> ok... so, how do i do that
[12:33] <nalioth> Seveas: doesnt need luck, he's a machine
[12:33] <davidmccabe> Hey folks. I have searched but have not found a package containing nvidia-settings. Any pointers? Thanks!
[12:33] <MikeStyle> is there a channel for kde users? or is it ubuntu
[12:33] <nalioth> sam_: lets move over to ##apple
[12:34] <davidmccabe> MikeStyle: #kde? #kubuntu?
[12:34] <nalioth> MikeStyle: #kubuntu
[12:34] <MikeStyle> k
[12:34] <LokeDK> After a crash, I had to push on the reboot button.. but now, when I insert a cd-rom, it doesn't mount or anything
[12:34] <rtate> can anyone help me with amarock
[12:34] <rtate> oops amarok
[12:35] <freddy> amarok?
[12:35] <freddy> what is that?
[12:35] <rtate> music player
[12:36] <hosler> I cant get any sound to work when I try to play dvds with mplayer? Totum wont play dvds at all.
[12:36] <eyequeue> rtate:  i know nothing about it, but perhaps a specific question might get a response from someone
[12:36] <claint> i got glxgears working ok when i am root. but when i try to run it as a regular user, i get libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted); libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and then it segfaults. is there a permission error somewhere? anyone know the fix?
[12:37] <hosler> nalioth: superkaramba is for kde not gnome.
[12:37] <nalioth> hosler: but it will run under gnome, and there is a "OSX dock" superkaramba widget
[12:38] <chez> anyone have ideas as to why I can't write to my pendrive?
[12:38] <hosler> ok
[12:38] <snatch> well im not getting any sound out of it
[12:38] <davidmccabe> anyways, the wiki seems to refer to an nvidia-settings package, but I don't have it here. I have universe and multiverse enabled.
[12:38] <davidmccabe> pointers?
[12:38] <D33> Hey... How do I format a HD in linux?
[12:39] <davidmccabe> D33: cfdisk
[12:39] <eyequeue> chez:  is it both mounted and mounted rw?  i don't have one, so it's only a guess
[12:39] <davidmccabe> D33: plus mkxxxfs where xxx is the filesystem you want.
[12:39] <eyequeue> D33:  mkfs, probably
[12:39] <davidmccabe> D33: tldp.org may have pointers.
[12:39] <mwe> mkfs.filesystem
[12:40] <chez> eyequeue: hello again! it mounts okay - I can read from it I just can't from it
[12:40] <chez> *to it
[12:40] <eyequeue> davidmccabe:  that would probably be in 'restricted' i'd think
[12:40] <davidmccabe> eyequeue: I have several other nvidia packages in restricted, but not nvidia-settings.
[12:40] <davidmccabe> eyequeue: which is very strange, you know?
[12:41] <eyequeue> chez:  yeah, that's what made me think of rw, though i know nothing of pendrives really
[12:41] <eyequeue> davidmccabe:  yeah, agreed.  i'm fortunate not to have any hardware that needs restricted here
[12:41] <m0biu5> Would anyone be willing to try to help me get my laptops sound working?
[12:41] <krod> hello, i need help getting my belkin pci wireless card to work with ubuntu
[12:41] <davidmccabe> eyequeue: ATI?
[12:41] <eyequeue> davidmccabe:  no
[12:41] <davidmccabe> eyequeue: ah.
[12:42] <davidmccabe> eyequeue: because I'm curious; most of what I hear about the state of ATI drivers in ambiguous.
[12:42] <ymee> hi all, I have two drives in my system. one has the OS on it,the other is also formatted and partitioned, I want to reformat it with only one partition, how do i do that?
[12:42] <eyequeue> davidmccabe:  the laptop has onboard video, an intel chipset iirc
[12:42] <davidmccabe> ah.
[12:42] <hooligan> emailed mako, thanks all
[12:42] <gtada> I have a Netgear MA401 (Prism chipset) and Hoary. I was wondering if it's possible to get WPA working?
[12:42] <krod> anyone know how to get wireless working?
[12:42] <eyequeue> hooligan:  good luck with the installfest, they can be fun (and sometimes a headache, heh)
[12:42] <mwe> ymee, you want to repartion I take it. I use cfdisk
[12:42] <ymee> is there any graphical utility for Ubuntu that lets you view drives and partitions and lets you format drives?
[12:43] <chez> eyequeue: yeah thats what I thought but I can't chmid it even as root
[12:43] <z|bandito> if someone downloads this torrent, does it find any peers?  http://ayakonix.dyndns.org:3001/earth2willi/music/novaluna/1-the-phunky-troll.mp3.torrent
[12:43] <z|bandito> it should be working but i can't see any peers here for some reason
[12:43] <Kyral> ymee, filelight
[12:43] <z|bandito> it's a legal download btw
[12:43] <Kyral> well, not format
[12:43] <eyequeue> chez:  is the thing self-mounting when you plug it in?
[12:43] <chez> eyequeue: yep
[12:43] <rasputnik> ymee: you want a parted frontend,  try 'sudo apt-cache search parted'
[12:43] <bimberi> ymee: gparted
[12:44] <mwe> qtparted
[12:44] <rasputnik> ymee: but I don't think they'll let you merge two partitions without losing the data on them
[12:44] <eyequeue> chez:  hmmm, i wonder if you have to feed some value to a config file somewhere, maybe hotplug?  someone who knows more will have to help on this one, sorry
[12:44] <ymee> bimberi gparted isnt showing up in my install..
[12:44] <ymee> can i do an apt-get on gparted?
[12:44] <bimberi> ymee: It's in the "universe" repository
[12:44] <jasoncohen> is anyone using the colony 2 breezy CD? how is it stability wise compared to sid?
[12:45] <hosler> nalioth: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:45] <gtada> How can I tell what driver my wireless card is using?
[12:45] <eyequeue> ymee:  gparted is handy with gnome, qtparted is handy with kde/kubuntu
[12:45] <hosler> I get that when i try to configure it
[12:45] <chez> eyequeue: no worries you've heped me enough today :) - weird thing is it show rwx for the owner which is my user account, but when iright click > proprties it says that I cannot chnaged properties as I don't won the file. But I do
[12:45] <nalioths_dog> hosler, do you have "build-essential" installed?
[12:45] <eyequeue> gtada:  dmesg?
[12:45] <ymee> sweet gparted looks good
[12:45] <chez> eyequeue: I will ask again tomorrow anyway
[12:45] <hosler> nalioths_dog: how do i check?
[12:46] <gtada> Whoa thanks eyequeue
[12:46] <mwe> the qtparted partition table always extends way past my screen edge :)
[12:46] <nalioths_dog> hosler, open a terminal and type "which gcc"
[12:46] <eyequeue> gtada:  np
[12:46] <hosler> nalioths_dog: /usr/bin/gcc
[12:47] <ymee> what do i do to make the newly formatted disk show up in my filemanager?
[12:47] <mwe> mount it
[12:47] <ymee> do I have to manually mount it?
[12:47] <hosler> nalioths_dog: wait. I dont have it. Im installing it now.
[12:47] <lukus001> My graphic drivers arnt installing properly, i-m install nvidia drivers but im experincing the same problems (glitches and graphical crashes) that i has on my ubuntu 64 bit version before i installed the drivers
[12:47] <nalioths_dog> hosler, you'll be good to  go then
[12:48] <lukus001> any know how to fix a buggy nvidia 32 bit?
[12:48] <bimberi> ymee: to mount it at boot time add an entry to /etc/fstab
[12:48] <weaner> hi, how can I get dhcp to work on startup with wlan0?
[12:49] <gtada> It seems like I'm using the orinoco driver for my ma401. It's a prism2 chipset, and I have upgraded the firmware to support WPA. However, I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work.
[12:49] <mwe> weaner, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:49] <gtada> I believe the ndiswrapper driver will work, but how do I switch drivers?
[12:49] <weaner> mwe, tried that but it doesn't work, run iwconfig wlan0 and there is nothing there
[12:50] <gtada> eyequeue, if you have any tips, I'd love to hear :D
[12:50] <LokeDK> After a reboot with the reboot button, ubuntu can no longer detect cd's in my burner and cd-rom drive
[12:50] <weaner> however, iwconfig essid, mode, key then dhcpclient will connect me
[12:51] <mwe> weaner, you need to put that info into interfaces as well
[12:51] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, have you restarted normally?
[12:51] <LokeDK> nalioths_dog, yes
[12:51] <mwe> weaner, wireless-essid, wireles-key etc
[12:51] <D33> What was the command to see my partitions?
[12:51] <weaner> mwe, done that too :(
[12:51] <LokeDK> and it says /dev/hdd no such file or directory or something like that under boot..
[12:51] <LokeDK> which is/was my burner
[12:52] <mwe> weaner, does ifup/ifdown wlan0 work
[12:52] <bimberi> D33: df
[12:53] <weaner> yes and no, ifup wlan0 tells me is already set
[12:53] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, have you opened Device Manager and had a look?
[12:53] <LokeDK> I just did now.. they're there
[12:53] <LokeDK> IDE device (master) PLEXTOR CD-ROM blabla.. IDE device (slave) OPTORITECD-RW blabla
[12:54] <mwe> weaner, so it tries to bring up wlan0 at boot time?
[12:54] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, and you can put a cd in it and nothing happens?
[12:54] <LokeDK> yeah
[12:55] <weaner> mwe, i think so but i cannot be sure, i'm guessing it's something simple that I have missed
[12:55] <bimberi> D33: Sorry "sudo fdisk -l" might be what you what you wanted
[12:55] <benplaut> 
[12:55] <mwe> weaner, eg you have auto wlan0 at the top of the interfaces file?
[12:55] <benplaut> oops
[12:55] <benplaut> hehe... didn't know i could do that :)
[12:56] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, how bout a blank cd-r?
[12:56] <guatenais> hello
[12:56] <benplaut> hi
[12:56] <guatenais> somebody can help me
[12:56] <LokeDK> just a se
[12:56] <LokeDK> c
[12:56] <freddy> with?
[12:56] <benplaut> don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[12:56] <mwe> heh
[12:56] <guatenais> hi somebody can help me
[12:57] <LokeDK> hmm my burner works
[12:57] <benplaut> ask away...
[12:57] <LokeDK> but not the cd-rom drive
[12:57] <mwe> guatenais, hard to tell without a question
[12:57] <weaner> mwe, no it's auto lo
[12:57] <freddy> guatenais, ASKKK!K!K!K!K!K!!!!
[12:57] <guatenais> i need help
[12:57] <guatenais> can you install skype
[12:57] <airmikey> how do i fix broken packages
[12:57] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, put an audio cd or dvd in it, and bring up vlc or xine
[12:57] <gtada> Does anybody have experience with the ndiswrapper?
[12:57] <freddy> guatenais, i think you are messing with us
[12:57] <freddy> gtada, yes
[12:57] <benplaut> quatenais
[12:57] <mwe> weaner, you need auto wlan0 too
[12:58] <mwe> weaner, what did ifup wlan0 tell you ?
[12:58] <guatenais> yes
[12:58] <benplaut> did you enable the "universe" repositories?
[12:58] <we2by> how do u burn .cue and .bin iamge file?
[12:58] <we2by> image*
[12:58] <moparfan90> anyone know a xbox live subsitution???
[12:58] <weaner> mwe, thanks for the info. i'll change the interfaces doc and reboot
[12:58] <nightswim> we2by: bchunk
[12:59] <gtada> freddy: I want to use ndiswrapper with my netgear card, but I think it's using the orinoco driver
[12:59] <gtada> How do I make it use ndiswrapper?
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> !repository
[12:59] <ubotu> No idea, lsuactiafner
[12:59] <LokeDK> nalioths_dog, weird.. the burner detects ALL cd's as Blank cd's.. and the cd-rom doesn't detect anything at all
[12:59] <freddy> gtada, ok i gad a problem now im gonna give you exactly what i used for my card
[12:59] <benplaut> guatenais: follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[12:59] <guatenais> thanks
[01:00] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, so xine or vlc won't open content discs?
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> benplaut : add the line universe behind multiverse and some other lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <hosler> nalioths_dog: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:00] <we2by> nightswim, what do I add for basename?
[01:00] <LokeDK> nalioths_dog, nope
[01:00] <benplaut> lsuactiafner: i have it working, it's guatenais who needed help ;)
[01:00] <nightswim> we2by: whatever you want the iso to be called :)
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> lol
[01:01] <LokeDK> and gnome just shows Blank CD-R Disc
[01:01] <feld> anyone here running breezy
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> am not payin attentiion
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> eatin kornflakes before bed
[01:01] <guatenais> thank's benplaut
[01:01] <we2by> cool
[01:01] <robin_z> is this a good place to ask debian questions?
[01:02] <benplaut> 'welcome :)
[01:02] <freddy> gtada, you there?
[01:02] <eyequeue> robin_z:  #debian
[01:02] <Ange1> hi.. . i 've installed 5.04 version (my first linux install) and im looking for lyx or another lattex editor
[01:02] <gtada> Yep
[01:02] <freddy> this IS what you have to do
[01:02] <freddy> theres nothing to do
[01:02] <freddy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[01:02] <we2by> cool
[01:02] <gtada> Thanks freddy!
[01:02] <freddy> this will work with you if you have to use ndiswrapper
[01:03] <freddy> i had a terrible problem with my card....i uninstalled ndiswrapper
[01:03] <freddy> and did exactly what that guide told me
[01:03] <gtada> Been ripping my hair out trying to get WPA working
[01:03] <bimberi> Ange1: lyx can be installed if you enable the "universe" repository ...
[01:03] <bimberi> !repositories
[01:03] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:04] <Ange1> Oh. . . so i can install with out internet conection ?
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> man i need to spell correcrlty
[01:04] <Ange1> Oops so i cant install without internet conn
[01:04] <benplaut> the instructions at www.ubuntuguide.com are good for enabling repos
[01:04] <we2by> I ahve a problem here
[01:04] <we2by> I used bchunk, but I get 2 iso files
[01:04] <we2by> one of them is not a valid iso file
[01:05] <we2by> :(
[01:05] <bimberi> Angel: It won't be on the install CD no
[01:06] <no_gatez_fan> is there a GUI easy to uderstand  firewall?
[01:06] <hosler> I get configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:06] <Ange1> ok thanks bimberi (i was crazy searching it). . . .
[01:06] <hosler> but i have it installed
[01:06] <freddy> no_gatez_fan, shorewall?
[01:06] <we2by> nightswim, I need litle help here
[01:07] <mrd``> How to I figure out what's giving me 80% CPU usage and load averages over 3, when top(1) doesn't show anything using more than 0.5% of the CPU usage?
[01:07] <no_gatez_fan> where is it?
[01:07] <bimberi> Ange1: np.  I've had a look and there are a lot of dependencies (~12) too
[01:07] <nickrud_> no_gatez_fan I use firestarter as an easy to use quicky
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> hosler : apt-get install app_you_want
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : ps aux, runin top might also increase load on small systems.. but thats should show
[01:08] <mrd``> And console beeps last for 10 seconds.
[01:08] <bimberi> Ange1: ... that need to be installed on top of a base ubuntu install
[01:08] <mrd``> lsuactiafner: It's a 1.8 GHz system.
[01:08] <nalioths_dog> hosler, open synaptic and look for libqt
[01:08] <hosler> lsuactiafner: but i allready have it installed
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : or the program that made the load go up has quit already, updatedb runs evry 24hrs and it pushes load up and quits
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> hosler : ldconfig
[01:08] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, i'm not sure what got whangered when you killed your box via the button
[01:08] <Ange1> excuse me, somebody speaks(writes) spanish ? (my english is very bad)
[01:08] <mwe> hosler, have libqt3-mg-dev and libqt3-headers?
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> hosler : apt-get build-dep what_you_want2compile
[01:09] <no_gatez_fan> how do you get the gui open?
[01:09] <nalioths_dog> angel hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[01:09] <bimberi> Ange1: Try #ubuntu-es
[01:09] <mwe> hosler, libat3-mt-dev even
[01:09] <LokeDK> nalioths_dog, I would be very sorry to reinstall my whole system :(
[01:09] <mrd``> lsuactiafner: 'ps aux' also only shows processes using 0.5 or less.
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> no_gatez_fan : sh /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:09] <nalioths_dog> LokeDK, not yet, but you may ask other folks about this
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : wait for it to go down.. i think updatedb ran a few mins ago on your systme
[01:09] <mrd``> lsuactiafner: No, my CPU usage keeps spiking up real sharply every few seconds.
[01:09] <LokeDK> yeah.. i've also tried to google.. but no luck
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> then again i never get loads below 2.00
[01:10] <jtan325_> what's a good tool to convert png to xpm, and/or resizing png's and xpms?
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : well playin mp3s might make it spike, something might have evalated nice levels
[01:10] <hidde2> guys, I've added something to my gnome session that prevents gnome from starting, how can i correct this?
[01:11] <no_gatez_fan> lsuactiafner no such file
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> jtan325_ : convert part of imagemagick
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> hidde2: look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> jtan325_ : apt-get install imagemagick
[01:12] <hidde2> tiglionabbit, what am I looking for?
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> no_gatez_fan : then you are in trouble..
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> hidde2: dunno, anything that would cause it to not run
[01:12] <no_gatez_fan> lsuactiafner woops sorry it failed
[01:13] <no_gatez_fan> i had a space in there
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> lol
[01:13] <jtan325_> lsuactiafner, what's the command?
[01:14] <jtan325_> "imagemagick" is not a command... i take it this is a set of tools
[01:14] <freddy> it is
[01:14] <freddy> a set of tools
[01:14] <jtan325_> cool, so what's the comand line for convert?
[01:15] <jtan325_> nm
[01:15] <jtan325_> it's 'convert"
[01:15] <jtan325_> awesome
[01:15] <mwe> heh
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> lol
[01:15] <freddy> yes sometimes the use weird name for the commands
[01:15] <freddy> ;)
[01:15] <freddy> what was the command to take a screenshot? i forgot that one
[01:15] <we2by> any one familiar with .cue and .bin file on linux?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> will paste a nice command now
[01:15] <no_gatez_fan> lsuactiafner since it failed, ho can i make it work?
[01:16] <nickrud_> hidde2, any luck?
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> gnome-panel-screenshot
[01:16] <freddy> no, the imagemagick ione
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> sleep ; import -window root bb.jpg
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> sleep 5s ; import -window root bb.jpg
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> will take a screen shot named bb.jpg in 5 seconds
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> no_gatez_fan : run xorgconf maybe
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> we2by: to find out what a file is, use file
[01:17] <no_gatez_fan> k
[01:17] <we2by> tiglionabbit, I did
[01:17] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> anyone here use TeamSpeak?
[01:17] <we2by> one of them is iso and the other is data
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> we2by: what did `file` say?
[01:17] <nickrud_> hidde2 the last saved gnome session is in .gnome2/session, you can try removing some lines there
[01:17] <we2by> I dunno how to burn them
[01:17] <freddy> that one
[01:17] <hidde2> nickrud, removed the file, didn't work
[01:17] <freddy> import -w root
[01:17] <freddy> that is the one
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> hidde2 : /tmp there are .hidden files
[01:18] <nalioths_dog> we2by, what do you need to know?
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> .ICE-unix/ .sockets/  .X0-lock   .X11-unix/ aint needed
[01:18] <we2by> nalioths_dog, I dunno how to burm them
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> well they aint too dangerous to delete
[01:18] <nalioths_dog> we2by, you need a program called binchunker (terminal command is "bchunk")
[01:18] <nickrud_> hidde2 hm, you might try logging out, and checking to see if gconfd is running.
[01:19] <nalioths_dog> we2by, binchunker converts bin/cue into .iso
[01:19] <we2by> nalioths_dog, I used bchunk
[01:19] <we2by> but bchunk gives me 2 files
[01:19] <we2by> :(
[01:19] <we2by> one of them is data
[01:19] <nickrud_> as well as closing an sockets in /tmp, as lsuactiafner points out :)
[01:20] <stisev> I'm having problems installing VMWare tools
[01:20] <stisev> I'm running Kubuntu/Ubuntu  on VMware workstation (on Windows XP SP2)
[01:20] <freddy> ok now, an appl to edit video
[01:20] <stisev> but I'm trying to install VMWare tools
[01:20] <freddy> do you guys know of any?
[01:20] <stisev> On linux?
[01:20] <stisev> Linux isn't really a video editing platform
[01:20] <stisev> :p
[01:20] <stisev> Vegas 6 on Windows =OMG YES
[01:20] <we2by> nalioths_dog, any idea?
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> stisev: is that true?
[01:21] <nightswim> we2by: what's the problem?
[01:21] <we2by> nightswim, read above ^^^
[01:21] <nksen> freddy: avidemux
[01:21] <stisev> tiglionabbit,  about vegas, yes. About video on linux, no
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> stisev: that makes me wonder why Pixar would need 20,000 linux machines
[01:21] <nightswim> what commandline did you use?
[01:21] <we2by> bchunk file.bin file.cue file
[01:22] <stisev> Hi tiglionabbit ;)
[01:22] <stisev> er pokles
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> hello
[01:22] <we2by> and it gives me two new files
[01:22] <we2by> one of them is small and is iso and the other is big and is data
[01:22] <Alexus> hi i have a beagle prob..  ( ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI) i think is mono-sqlite prob
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> yay, Java errors
[01:23] <freddy> i have my machines i use for animation...but i want to consider linux as a choise...and i wanna check on the appl linux has
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> freddy: what animation software do you use?
[01:24] <JuIC1> Hi
[01:24] <JuIC1> germans here, able to help me with a little beginner question?
[01:24] <freddy> tiglionabbit, after effects, combustion, 3dmax. thats what we use at the studio.
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> freddy: on which OS?
[01:25] <nightswim> JuIC1: just ask :)
[01:25] <freddy> windows.
[01:25] <JuIC1> Ich bin seid ewigkeiten mal wieder auf linux unterwegs
[01:25] <moparfan90> anyone know some good apt's for my ubuntu linux?
[01:25] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> anyone here know anything about soundcards and linux?
[01:25] <JuIC1> und wei nichtmehr so recht mit der konsole umzugehen
[01:25] <JuIC1> mcht in nen ordner um da ein programm zu installieren
[01:26] <JuIC1> wie komm ich ber den terminal da nochmal rein?
[01:26] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY yeah, always get a sound card that does hardware mixing :)
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> um dude we can't understand a word you said
[01:26] <JuIC1> harch
[01:26] <JuIC1> cd
[01:26] <chrissturm> JuIC1, #ubuntu-de
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> shit ok
[01:26] <JuIC1> kk
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> suggestions for a cheapo soundcard?
[01:26] <freddy> tiglionabbit, windows.
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> that does hardware mixing
[01:26] <moparfan90> anyone know any good apt's for my ubuntu linux
[01:27] <moparfan90> ????
[01:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and how to tell if the sound card can do this?
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> freddy: I heard you the first time.  Now I'm thinking about what anim stuff I can do on linux...
[01:27] <darius__> What Ubuntu package has gtk-config?
[01:27] <freddy> tiglionabbit, oh ok..let me know.
[01:27] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY I'm using my 6 year old onboard chip, but I think the alsa home page has some info on that
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> nickrud how to tell if the onboard sound card can do this?
[01:28] <freddy> im really interested on testing animation appl for linux tiglionabbit
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> nickrud_ do you have the link?
[01:28] <freddy> i found the distro i need, now i want the appl to maybe put a couple or 4 pcs with linux in the studio tiglionabbit
[01:28] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY if it doesn't matter if you tell an app to use oss emulation, alsa directly, or esd, and everything works, you have hardware mixing
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> hmm ok then what am i doing wrong
[01:29] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY I think it's alsa-project.org
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> cause only one program can use the sound at a time
[01:29] <moparfan90> anyone have a good windows emulator other then cedgea for games???????
[01:29] <nightswim> vmware
[01:29] <moparfan90> that not realy a emulator
[01:29] <mjr> and not really for games
[01:29] <moparfan90> yeah
[01:30] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY there's a page on the wiki, a couple of months ago it was usable, let me check
[01:30] <nightswim> it's more of an emulator than cedega in a way :>
[01:30] <tiglionabbit> freddy: that sounds like a good idea.  If you find some software you like, tell me about it
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> kk
[01:30] <nightswim> and for some games it works fine
[01:30] <mjr> nightswim, yes, but not a windows emulator
[01:30] <moparfan90> yeah but you have to install windows. then so its not n emulator realy
[01:30] <freddy> tiglionabbit, oh you dont know any :(
[01:31] <mjr> anyways, the free winehq wine is mostly the alternative
[01:31] <moparfan90> ahhh!   bored
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> freddy: well I know wings3d, blender3d, and k3d run on linux, and I'm pretty sure Maya can too
[01:31] <moparfan90> yeah i have the cedega CVS install. but i cant get half life 2 to work ....
[01:31] <kgrimm> what is a good RSS client ?
[01:31] <moparfan90> so it sucks
[01:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i opend up the sound propertys and i can't tell what the card is
[01:32] <freddy> "With more than 200 Linux desktops and 400 Linux servers, DreamWorks SKG is not only a leading producer of animated motion pictures but a major user of Linux as well."
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> unless it's intel 82801BA-ICH2(DUPLEX)
[01:32] <krod> hello, can anyone help me with my wirless problem...i have tried ndiswrapper but it dosn't seem to be working...my wireless card is a belkin wireless g desktop card.
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> freddy: count the number of linux boxes they've got at Pixar
[01:33] <moparfan90> krod: yeah run a wire
[01:33] <chrissturm> tiglionabbit, at pixar they are forced to use apple for political reasons
[01:33] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY at the very end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28dmix%29. polyaudio may work, or maybe the part following about dmix
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> kk
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> chrissturm: is that true?  I thought I read...
[01:34] <Kream> Hi. anyone here with a working pci express card ?
[01:34] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY I've seen that dmix thing work, but YMMV
[01:34] <chrissturm> tiglionabbit, i think they use a lot of linux computers in their render farms, but i think they need to use some macs too because the company belongs to steve jobs
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> oh
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> yes, they have tons in the farms
[01:35] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone here know a bit about serial ports?
[01:35] <we2by> wtf
[01:35] <we2by> I can't install mplayer
[01:35] <we2by> :(
[01:35] <moparfan90> anyone know some extras fo my computer that would make it better
[01:36] <moparfan90> we2by: try using XMMS
[01:36] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, what sort of "extras"
[01:36] <we2by> xmms is allready installed
[01:37] <Huntz> hello
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> hello Huntz
[01:37] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, xmms != mplayer
[01:37] <Huntz> Hello, man i got introduced to ubuntu and i have to say wow never thought Debian would work soo smoothly
[01:37] <Burgundavia> we2by, you need the specific mplayer binary for your cpu
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> m yes, it is impressive, no?
[01:38] <Huntz> yes very impressive i love it im hooked hehe
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> we2by: when you search through synaptic for mplayer, does it come up?
[01:38] <we2by> yep
[01:38] <HiddenWolf> did anyone here get ubuntu to work nice with lirc?
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> Huntz: hooray, me too
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> we2by: okay.  And when you select the proper architecture, and try and install it, what happens?
[01:39] <Huntz> hehe Ubuntu is nice but is there a upgrade to get Gcc 4.0?
[01:39] <tiglionabbit> o.o are you sure you want that?
[01:39] <Huntz> talkin to me?
[01:39] <we2by> dependencies failled!
[01:39] <tiglionabbit> Huntz: ya
[01:40] <Dr_Melectaus> Whats that site with the guide on installing limewire?
[01:40] <Huntz> yes Im a free lance programmer and I always want to keep up to date with gcc
[01:40] <Dr_Melectaus> ubuntuguid.org ?
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> we2by: well dang.  You have universe and multiverse, right?  You might need to add a mirror to backports.  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php  read
[01:40] <Huntz> yep
[01:40] <nickrud_> Dr_Melectaus ubuntuguide.org, but why not use gnutella?
[01:40] <Huntz> i followed the unoffical guide
[01:40] <Dr_Melectaus> nickrud_, i cant get any good download rates with it
[01:41] <Huntz> u try d4x Dr?
[01:41] <we2by> k
[01:41] <Huntz> lo
[01:41] <Dr_Melectaus> Huntz, whats d4x ?
[01:41] <Huntz> lol
[01:41] <we2by> but I don't think I will fix this problem this week
[01:41] <Huntz> it a download manager
[01:41] <we2by> when i sthe next stable ubuntu out?
[01:41] <Huntz> it has higher sustained download rates then doing it with your browser
[01:41] <Dr_Melectaus> ill apt get it then Huntz cheers ;)
[01:41] <Huntz> ^_^
[01:41] <eyequeue> we2by:  october
[01:41] <we2by> when is  the next stable ubuntu out?
[01:41] <nickrud_> Dr_Melectaus I used to use mldonkey. I can't anymore.
[01:41] <we2by> :(
[01:41] <bccs> october
[01:42] <bccs> 5.10
[01:42] <Dr_Melectaus> how  not nickrud_
[01:42] <Huntz> hey tig what verison of ubuntu do ya use mate?
[01:42] <we2by> what's new in it?
[01:42] <eyequeue> we2by: every 6 months
[01:42] <mwe> we2by, what's wrong with the current stable ubuntu?
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> we2by: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[01:42] <Kream> Hi. anyone here with a working pci express card on an nForce4 motherboard ?
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> oops
[01:42] <eyequeue> we2by: the new gnome, gcc, etc
[01:42] <we2by> I can't get mplayer installed
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[01:42] <mcquaid> i was looking at installing a python ide, specifically eric
[01:42] <Kyral> Anyone know what the heck a SVGZ file is?
[01:42] <we2by> and firefox had alot problems with mplayer plugins!
[01:42] <Huntz> u tried the unoffical guide we2by?
[01:43] <we2by> yep
[01:43] <nickrud_> Dr_Melectaus I live in the usa, and I won't be a path to prosecution of anyone (I hope that pomposity be forgiven)
[01:43] <ubuntu_> hello all
[01:43] <Huntz> i never had issues with it
[01:43] <Burgundavia> Kyral, a gziped scalable vector graphics file
[01:43] <Huntz> hi buntu
[01:43] <mwe> we2by, yes if you add the multiverse repos
[01:43] <mcquaid> can another tell me why there is eric ver 3.6 and eric3 ver 3.4 in the repositories?
[01:43] <Dr_Melectaus> mldonkeylol
[01:43] <Huntz> what error you getting we?
[01:43] <Kyral> um okay
[01:43] <we2by> I think I have a broken box here
[01:43] <Kyral> how the hell do I open it?
[01:43] <Huntz> oh
[01:43] <Kyral> I downloaded it from The Facebook under "Visualize my friends"
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> ok itryed it i'm just not able to do the stuff it says
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it's too technical
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> >.<
[01:44] <stisev> argh
[01:44] <Kyral> the file command says its a XML document text
[01:45] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY think of it as your first final on the ubuntu implementation of debian :)
[01:45] <tokenbad_> in ubuntu is there a way to free cached memory
[01:45] <Huntz> hello smeggy
[01:45] <iifs> hola
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus> how  not nickrud_ Bollocks, i just tried to run d4x and it closes in a matter of milliseconds
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus> shite
[01:46] <Smeggy> hello
[01:46] <Huntz> huh Dr?
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus> i didnt mean to have the how not nickrud_  bit in thee
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus> there**
[01:46] <Huntz> works fine for me, what extactly occurs
[01:46] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> or think that the information provided is way to hard for my learning lvl at this time .>.<
[01:46] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> lol
[01:46] <bunbury_zone> holaaaaa
[01:46] <bunbury_zone> helloooo
[01:46] <Huntz> lol Hi!
[01:46] <Huntz> freindly Ubuntu converter!
[01:46] <Huntz> lol
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus> Huntz, i done apt-get to get d4x, it installed. then when to apss>run>d4x
[01:47] <Dr_Melectaus> and it opens, but for a matter of millisecs then closes
[01:47] <Huntz> no errors?
[01:47] <bunbury_zone> somebody know "Informaticiens sans frontieres"???
[01:47] <chrissturm> Dr_Melectaus, open a console, and enter "d4x"
[01:47] <chrissturm> Dr_Melectaus, you will get an error message
[01:47] <bunbury_zone> the LIFE proyect??
[01:47] <Huntz> ah
[01:47] <Huntz> what does it say?
[01:47] <nickrud_> Dr_Melectaus, I used it a long time ago, but haven't tried any recent iterations.
[01:48] <bunbury_zone> based in Ubuntu
[01:48] <bunbury_zone> and Morphix
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> shit
[01:48] <Huntz> ?
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> huntz:  in pixmap_path: "stock_open.png"
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> /home/melectaus/.themes/Bloodline/gtk-2.0/iconrc:26: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "stock_find.png"
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> Thats the error im getting
[01:48] <mrd``> lsuactiafner: Sorry, my system overheated.  Anyways, I think the problem is related to linux-image-2.6.12-3-k7... I booted 2.6.12-2-k7 this time and it's behaving correctly.
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> what the hell are procs?
[01:48] <Huntz> ahhh a gtk issue
[01:48] <nickrud_> Dr_Melectaus try selecting d4x as your downloader in firefox, and see if it works. I used it that way.
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> power managemnt..
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[01:48] <Huntz> its missing something from gtk nick
[01:48] <chrissturm> Dr_Melectaus, select a different theme
[01:48] <mrd``> (I'll try 2.6.12-3-k7 again later to confirm, but I'm pretty sure that's all that changed before my system started misbehaving.)
[01:49] <Huntz> yea that might work chriss hehe
[01:49] <Huntz> who in the hell uses lilo now a days?
[01:49] <nickrud_> heh
[01:49] <Huntz> lol
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : compile your own kernels.. kernels with every possible driver possibility compiled in is a bad idea
[01:49] <Dr_Melectaus> Huntz, whats lilo?
[01:49] <Huntz> lilo is a boat loader
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> i use lilo
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> lilo rocks
[01:49] <Dr_Melectaus> apart from the freenode staffer
[01:49] <Huntz> stands for linux bootloader
[01:49] <Huntz> lol
[01:50] <cmatheson> hey how do i add another user to the /etc/sudoers file?
[01:50] <Huntz> No Grub beats it lol
[01:50] <chrissturm> lsuactiafner, compiling kernels is not recommended
[01:50] <Huntz> chmod it then be root and add a entry manuelly with via cmatheson
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> simple, consistant, predictable and tested.
[01:50] <Huntz> by default its read only
[01:50] <mwe> cmatheson, all users in the admin group are allowed to use sudo
[01:50] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, please don't recommend lilo over grub, and don't recommend people compile there own kernels
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> chrissturm : i just recommended it..
[01:50] <cmatheson> mwe: Huntz: cool thanks
[01:50] <Huntz> LOL
[01:51] <Huntz> ^_^
[01:51] <chrissturm> lsuactiafner, yeah, dont do it
[01:51] <sorush20> can you get Quick time for Linux Ubuntu
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> there are no disatvantaged by doing that
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> only atvantages
[01:51] <sorush20> or not?
[01:51] <Dr_Melectaus> i wish i could apt-get music !_!
[01:51] <Huntz> oh?
[01:51] <chrissturm> lsuactiafner, recommend it in #scriptkiddies
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> sorush20: you can play quicktime files in any media player with the right codecs
[01:51] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, remember that everything you say here might be done somebody who doesn't know what they are doing, and they might seriously mess up their system
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : linux is free choice.
[01:51] <Huntz> heheh also teach the virtue of backup
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : thats the windows attitude..
[01:52] <Huntz> lol
[01:52] <sorush20> tiglionabbit, could you tell me where I can find this...
[01:52] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, #ubuntu is about ubuntu, not about compiling kernels and other slackware-derived stuff
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> i screwed my pc up once with a kernel, but then i learnt howto do it myself
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> if i didnt know howto make a kernel i wouldnt be runnin ubuntu since the ubuntu kernel didnt boot my system up
[01:52] <Huntz> I love Kernel Panic's i think they are sexy jk
[01:52] <Huntz> lol
[01:52] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, whatever your experience, the default kernel works for most people
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> and lilo didnt install properly from my cd, so i had to install lilo from another system..
[01:53] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, just don't recommend it, ok?
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : there is no harm in expandin your knowledge
[01:53] <Huntz> lol
[01:53] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner mrd`` : compile your own kernels.. kernels with every possible driver possibility compiled in is a bad ide
[01:53] <Kyral> Idiot, I have the Freetype libraries installed!
[01:53] <Huntz> watch out the dino bites back Kyral
[01:53] <Burgundavia> that is bad advice ^
[01:53] <tiglionabbit> sorush20: many of the codecs are explained in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats .  You can also add a backports mirror from http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php and install w32codecs to get support for most windows video formats
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : thats like tellin someone not to learn calculus incase they invent nucluar fusion
[01:53] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, no, it is not
[01:54] <Huntz> lol
[01:54] <Strife> anyone in here have a dell inspiron 6000?
[01:54] <lsuactiafner> ofcourse it is, if a user can make his own kernel his linux experience will be much smoother and better
[01:54] <Kyral> Damn thing says it needs TrueType enabled to get the SVGZ to display right but it isn't telling me how
[01:54] <lsuactiafner> not everyone buys pcs off the rack with default chipsets ect
[01:54] <Huntz> yea assuming he doesnt trash his system ten times over
[01:54] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, maybe for a small subset of users, but not for all
[01:55] <lsuactiafner> ive never seen you guys help ppl out in this channel, i do all the time, if it wasnt for users who can think ubuntu wouldnt have ppl runnin it
[01:55] <lsuactiafner> and i'm encouraging ppl to think.
[01:55] <Huntz> well a direct windows to linux convert
[01:55] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, encourage people to follow Ubuntu best practices
[01:55] <Huntz> thinking isnt a critcal skill to them
[01:55] <nickrud_> huh, having a reliable kernel is a fundamental reason I settled on debian, and by extention, ubuntu.
[01:56] <tiglionabbit> hey guys.  What is the standard place for me to put things such as themes and icons and such which I wish to use systemwide?
[01:56] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, which does not involve recommending any of the follow: kernel compiles, lilo or ubuntuguide.org
[01:56] <Huntz> I cant recall tig buddy hmm
[01:56] <lsuactiafner> well then this thinkin person is going to watch anime instaed and let the non-thinkin ppl do the support
[01:56] <mcquaid> tiglionabbit, /usr/share/themes /usr/share/icons
[01:56] <mrd``> lsuactiafner: Sure, but recommend things like compiling kernels for a good reason -- the default kernel is quite modular and most users aren't affected.
[01:56] <tiglionabbit> mcquaid: thank you
[01:56] <Huntz> hey i watch anime :P
[01:56] <tiglionabbit> mcquaid: what happens if I use an animated gif as a desktop icon? ( gonna try it anyway )
[01:57] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, would your mother want to compile a kernel?
[01:57] <mcquaid> dont think that works
[01:57] <Huntz> lol good point Bur
[01:57] <lsuactiafner> mrd`` : your kernel made your pc overheat, make a kernel without all the other power saving features but those you need
[01:57] <Strife> anyone with a dell laptop and an ATI video card?
[01:57] <Huntz> Afraid not Strife whats the issue though laptops are always tricky with Linux
[01:57] <tiglionabbit> hmm, you sure it's not /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : she is 50 and knows nothing about pcs. obviously mrd`` aint
[01:58] <Huntz> lol
[01:58] <Strife> Huntz: my only issue is a minor one... there was some option I previously had to use in xorg.conf to get the fglrx driver working...
[01:58] <Strife> I have since reinstalled
[01:58] <Strife> and I can't remember what that option was
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> tellin him to make a kernel so that his hardware aint damaged is a very good idea
[01:59] <mwe> Driver "fglrx"
[01:59] <mcquaid> tiglionabbit, yep i'm sure
[01:59] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit pixmaps was depreciated a long time ago
[01:59] <chrissturm> lsuactiafner, if you knew anything about kernels you would not say that. go learn some more
[01:59] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner, if the default ubuntu kernel is damaging hardware, that is a bug
[01:59] <Strife> mwe: no :P
[01:59] <Strife> mwe: it was a screen option
[01:59] <Huntz> lol
[01:59] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: then why does gnome still look there for its icons?
[01:59] <Strife> someting having to do with the fact that it's an LCD monitor
[01:59] <tiglionabbit> o, gotta eat dinner
[01:59] <tiglionabbit> bubbye
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> chrissturm : now you are talkin rubbish
[01:59] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit for legacy
[02:00] <Huntz> oh
[02:00] <Huntz> hmm let me look it up mate
[02:00] <Burgundavia> Strife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <chrissturm> lsuactiafner, point to an url where your point is explained
[02:00] <Golgor> can anyone give me a quick answer on how to reconfigure xserver, got the wrong resolution
[02:00] <lsuactiafner> obviously his pc aint usin power savings ect else his pc wont overheat, obviously his kernel config needs to be changed
[02:00] <Huntz> nevermind Bur provided some possable help hehe why do i bother :P
[02:00] <Huntz> lol
[02:00] <eyequeue> Golgor:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:01] <Huntz> Whehe
[02:01] <Strife> Burgundavia: again, I don't have a problem with the drivers... I have an xorg.conf problem with the screen
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> !resolution
[02:01] <Golgor> tackar
[02:01] <ubotu> [resolution]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:01] <Golgor> oops, big thanks eyequeue
[02:01] <eyequeue> Golgor:  np
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> Golgor : follow that link
[02:01] <Huntz> Has anyone trie the unstable release of Ubuntu?
[02:01] <Burgundavia> Strife, it also lists common problems
[02:02] <Burgundavia> Huntz, yes, not recommended unless you know what you are doing
[02:02] <Strife> nope
[02:02] <Huntz> I know i just wanted a feel for it i might put it on a test PC
[02:02] <Huntz> not my home machine
[02:02] <eyequeue> Huntz:  the development version breaks multiple times per day sometimes, great fun :)
[02:02] <Huntz> hehe lol
[02:03] <Burgundavia> if you want to do some useful testing, install hoary, just defaults, then upgrade to breezy and reports bugs on things that break
[02:03] <Huntz> I might just do that, I have to say Ubuntu has been a breeze no pun intended
[02:03] <Huntz> lol
[02:04] <mwe> if you're bored try rm -rf /bin. that will take a while to fix
[02:04] <Huntz> LOL
[02:04] <Burgundavia> mwe, please don't say things like that
[02:04] <chrissturm> mwe: that wont have any effect
[02:04] <Huntz> hahah thats cruel
[02:04] <Huntz> lol
[02:05] <Alexus> do i need inotify to run beagle?
[02:05] <Burgundavia> Alexus, no
[02:05] <Burgundavia> Alexus, let me clarify, depends on the version
[02:05] <mwe> you might need nohup rm -rf /bin though :)
[02:05] <Alexus> hm.. beagle indexed gaim and firefox pages but not files
[02:05] <Huntz> lol
[02:05] <chrissturm> mwe, it has no effect unless you are root
[02:05] <mwe> of course
[02:06] <Huntz> mv nwe /dev/null
[02:06] <Huntz> lol
[02:06] <Alexus> beagle 0.11.1
[02:06] <Burgundavia> Alexus, then, no
[02:06] <mwe> cat Huntz > /dev/null
[02:06] <eyequeue> another good reason ubuntu defaults to no root
[02:06] <Huntz> ouch
[02:06] <Huntz> lol
[02:06] <mwe> heh
[02:06] <Burgundavia> Alexus, you running breezy?
[02:06] <chrissturm> Burgundavia, i think all beagles above 0.9 need inotify
[02:06] <Alexus> but i get error ... 05-07-05 03.01.46.36 12350 Beagle ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI
[02:06] <Alexus> in <0x00340> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection:SetConnectionString (System.String connstring)
[02:07] <Huntz> lol
[02:07] <Alexus> Burgundavia, breezy?
[02:07] <Burgundavia> Alexus, if that is the breezy beagle, report a bug in malone
[02:07] <cmatheson> hey are there any rad file-managers that are less-bloated than nautilus?
[02:07] <Burgundavia> Alexus, or ask in #dashboard on irc.gnome.org
[02:07] <cmatheson> how does konqi compare?
[02:07] <german> hi!!!
[02:07] <chrissturm> Alexus, what filesystem is your home partition on?
[02:07] <Huntz> hi german
[02:08] <Alexus> ext3
[02:08] <Huntz> konqi is bloatsvill cmath
[02:08] <Alexus> xattr is set
[02:08] <cmatheson> Huntz:  so is nautilus, so what?
[02:08] <german> how to hav statics DNS in /etc/resolv.conf ??
[02:08] <Alexus> i think is an sqlite prob..
[02:08] <chrissturm> Alexus, dunno why it would use sqlite then
[02:08] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, inotify is option, but recommended, according to the beaglewiki
[02:08] <Huntz> lol I have had better speed with Nautilus then Konqi
[02:08] <Huntz> if you wish for total gui speed narvina try fvm
[02:08] <Strife> brb
[02:09] <mwe> fluxbox
[02:09] <Huntz> lol rm -f nwe
[02:09] <eyequeue> german:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[02:09] <chrissturm> Burgundavia, didnt know that :)
[02:09] <Alexus> chrissturm, sqlite is needed by beagle?
[02:10] <mwe> dd if=dev/zero of=Huntz
[02:10] <mwe> heh
[02:10] <Huntz> LOL
[02:10] <Huntz> sp cruel
[02:10] <Huntz> o
[02:10] <Alexus> is installed (2.8.15)
[02:10] <chrissturm> Alexus, i thought it needs sqlite only when it doesnt have xattr
[02:10] <Huntz> lol
[02:10] <LokeDK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46452 Can anyone help me?
[02:10] <m0th> hi
[02:10] <eyequeue> german:  that file will tell you not to edit it of course
[02:10] <Burgundavia> Chrischan, they made it optional in .10 or .11 I think
[02:10] <Huntz> nwe where do you reign from anyway?
[02:10] <Alexus> how i can disable sqlite?
[02:11] <cmatheson> Huntz:  narvina? what's that?
[02:11] <m0th> ubuntu 5.04 hangs on activating pccard controller - unfortunately ubuntu ignores the nopcmcia apped option, like debian
[02:11] <mwe> LokeDK, did you fix your bin/cue issue?
[02:11] <Huntz> its to some belief's a heaven
[02:11] <ultrahex> how can i change the mouse sensitvity and Refresh rate..... (the mouse pref doesnt go high enough)
[02:11] <tiglionabbit> cmatheson: he may mean nirvana
[02:11] <chrissturm> alexus, did you try to install libsqlite-3-0 ?
[02:11] <cmatheson> tiglionabbit:  thanks
[02:11] <Huntz> hehe
[02:11] <m0th> i'd like to use ubuntu, though
[02:11] <LokeDK> mwe, what bin/cue issue?
[02:11] <Alexus> yes is both installed
[02:11] <chrissturm> Alexus, breezy beagle has some missing dependencies, maybe it needs sqlite v3
[02:12] <m0th> is there a alternative way to disable pcmcia on installation?
[02:12] <mwe> LokeDK, never mind I must have a nick confusion :)
[02:12] <chrissturm> Alexus, dunno then
[02:12] <LokeDK> oh okay :)
[02:12] <chrissturm> Alexus, did you look into the logfiles in ~/.beagle ?
[02:12] <ultrahex> how can i change the mouse sensitvity and Refresh rate..... (the mouse pref doesnt go high enough)...........................................................
[02:13] <Alexus> yes..  its say  Beagle ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI
[02:13] <Alexus> in <0x00340> Mono.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteConnection:SetConnectionString (System.String connstring)
[02:14] <Alexus> .... and in <0x00000> <unknown method>
[02:14] <chrissturm> Alexus, did you run beagle before?
[02:14] <jasoncohen> something appears to be wrong with apt-get on my system using backports hoary-backport-staging. apt-get can't upgrade amule to 2.0.3. it complains that it can't fetch the .deb but i can download it myself with wget & the url that it says it can't fetch
[02:15] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> anyone know what the current version of alsa is?
[02:15] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and if ubuntu has it?
[02:15] <bluefoxicy> huh.
[02:15] <bluefoxicy> weird.
[02:15] <bluefoxicy> it seems that in a package upgrade, apt decided to perform ln -s /usr/bin /usr/bin/X11 without removing /usr/bin/X11
[02:15] <Alexus> no its first..
[02:15] <bluefoxicy> thus X stopped working
[02:15] <flodine> anyone running pekwm
[02:15] <TimmyJ> what file in ubuntu do I need to edit to load a kernel module on boot?
[02:16] <flodine> hello
[02:16] <Huntz> brb
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> as Xorg was /usr/bin/X11/bin/Xorg and not /usr/bin/X11/Xorg
[02:16] <comadreja> jasoncohen : by any chance is it an ftp entry on sources.list ?
[02:16] <biovore> I belive alsa is at 1.0.9b
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> Debian's package manager is pretty horrible.
[02:16] <mwe> TimmyJ, /etc/modules iirc
[02:16] <bimberi> TimmyJ: /etc/modules
[02:16] <jasoncohen> comadreja, it's an http entry - http://ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net/
[02:16] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> biovore how to tell if i have that version?
[02:17] <biovore> trying to remember..
[02:17] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, that is not the fault of apt
[02:17] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, did you manually create any symlinks?
[02:17] <jasoncohen> here's the output - http://pastebin.ca/16892
[02:17] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  no.
[02:17] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, more likely a packaging issue
[02:17] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  but earlier Xorg packages specified a different directory structure.
[02:18] <biovore> Church:  dpkg -L | grep alsa
[02:18] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, yes, X is changing the directory structure. It is very confusing
[02:18] <freddy> holy shiat
[02:18] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> thanx bio
[02:18] <biovore> ubuntu is using 1.0.8
[02:18] <freddy> theres softimage for LINUX
[02:18] <freddy> wtf
[02:18] <Alexus> chrissturm, its first time.. what can i do?
[02:18] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  apt/dpkg should be able to confirm that a symlink being installed is indeed being installed; more directly, if the symlink to be installed is /usr/bin/X11 -> /usr/bin, then it should confirm that it is creating /usr/bin/X11 and NOT /usr/bin/X11/bin
[02:18] <biovore> freddy: softimage? disk image?
[02:18] <comadreja> jasoncohen : the ip's differ
[02:18] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, then file a bug about it
[02:19] <chrissturm> Alexus, i dont know.  you could try "rm ~/.beagle"
[02:19] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  It's also possible to leave changes on the system with a package without it actually installing.
[02:19] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, say again?
[02:19] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  changes that the package manager cannot remove because it does not track them.
[02:19] <jasoncohen> comadreja, ah, it fails the first time when i wget. then the next time it uses another ip
[02:19] <Alexus> i tried it.. ok where can i ask?
[02:19] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i have the older version 1.08 how to upgrade?
[02:19] <comadreja> jasoncohen seems so
[02:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> to the current version of alsa
[02:20] <jasoncohen> comadreja, perhaps, one of their servers is down
[02:20] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  I've filed a bug on that, re. . . gimme a sec to find the bug, it was set as "NOTABUG" because it's "not a bug in apt"
[02:20] <biovore> depends if 1.0.9 is in the package tree.. else compile your self..
[02:20] <comadreja> jasoncohen : try setting it manually on your /etc/hosts
[02:20] <biovore> 1.0.9 is beta
[02:20] <comadreja> jasoncohen : just meanwhile :/
[02:20] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, then it probably isn't
[02:20] <biovore> requires alot of work to update alsa
[02:20] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  It was regarding java.  I tried installing blackdown but answered "no" to the license agreement, and so the package -did- -not- -install-
[02:20] <biovore> kernel recompile and stuff
[02:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> are you serious
[02:20] <Huntz> back
[02:20] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: If 1.0.8 is working OK, do not attempt to fix it. if it's not, get the 1.0.9a packages fropm breezy and install those.
[02:21] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, what do you need from 1.0.9?
[02:21] <biovore> you have to update the kernel drivers with a alsa patch
[02:21] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  no command to dpkg or apt can remove the changes; the package stored that I declined the license and refuses to ask me again, thus refusing to install.
[02:21] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, that is a bug, but I think I saw it
[02:21] <freddy> biovore, softimage man! an important software for 3d animation!
[02:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> Burgundavia well fro some reason my soundcard will only put out sound from one app at a time
[02:21] <ultrahex> how do you modify sensitivity beyond max in preferences ....
[02:21] <freddy> and its only $670!!!
[02:21] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11692
[02:21] <biovore> no clue about softimage..
[02:21] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: Run a sound server, problem fixed.
[02:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> so i'm assuming that it's outdated or i have a shitty soundcard
[02:22] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, that is a bigger fix than just alsa
[02:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> kk
[02:22] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, and a known issue
[02:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and how do i run a sound server?
[02:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> fro teamspeak
[02:22] <biovore> what sound card you got church.. I run teamspeak in ubuntu here
[02:22] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: Ubuntu ran one the moment you installed it, how did you disable it?
[02:22] <jasoncohen> comadreja, by adding "70.84.217.98 ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net" to /etc/hosts ?
[02:22] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, did you try purging the package?
[02:22] <comadreja> jasoncohen yep
[02:22] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  it's notable that package managers such as Gentoo's Portage can and do track _ALL_ changes made by installing or building a package.  Portage goes so far as to sandbox the actions of the build process and does not access outside the work directory until installing.
[02:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i diden't
[02:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it's still running as far as i know
[02:23] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: You'll need an esound wrapper for teamspeak. It may or may not exist. Your main problem is that you're trying to use crap software (teamspeak) that was improperly written.
[02:23] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  Yes, I tried dpkg removal, forced removal, apt-get --purge, a dpkg command that purged all info. . .
[02:23] <biovore> teamspeak uses OSS
[02:23] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  I tried manually editing the dpkg database and removing the package's entry
[02:23] <mgcross> hello all
[02:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> teamspeak is crap?
[02:23] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, then find an apt developer and talk to them
[02:23] <biovore> legacy layier /dev/dsp0
[02:23] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  it's stored info somewhere I can't find.
[02:23] <biovore> java app
[02:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> have you ever used it?
[02:23] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  look at the reply.
[02:23] <biovore> I have no probs with it..
[02:23] <biovore> Teamspeak
[02:23] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: Read on, see 'improperly written'.
[02:23] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia: "This is a bug in the blackdown packages, not in apt (or any other part of Ubuntu)"
[02:24] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, then it probably is
[02:24] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, i also think so
[02:24] <golgor> anyone wanna help me with a newbie question?
[02:24] <jasoncohen> comadreja, now it works fine
[02:24] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  theoretically I could make a package with a "bug" that would irreparably break the system, "through no fault of the package manager"
[02:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> biovore how do you get it to run multiple sounds then ?
[02:24] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  thus forcing a reinstall.
[02:24] <mgcross> anyone eles getting errors when updating sources using synaptic or Apt?
[02:24] <crusadingknight> golgor: ?
[02:24] <mgcross> GPG erros?
[02:24] <comadreja> jasoncohen : cool :) remember you have to remove that entry
[02:24] <biovore> what sound card you have Church.. have to have full duplex card
[02:24] <biovore> I have a SB live here..
[02:24] <jasoncohen> comadreja, yeah, i'll remove it tomorrow and see if it's fixed
[02:24] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, #ubuntu is not the place to produce solutions to your problem, only to complain about it
[02:24] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, sure, thats why its not good to install unsigned packags
[02:24] <ksmurf> does anyone have any insight into setting up a lava serial card?
[02:25] <jasoncohen> comadreja, why does wget try a different IP the second time but apt doesn't?
[02:25] <mgcross> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:25] <mgcross> W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:25] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  Is that a proper attitude?
[02:25] <biovore> yeah.. I seen that too mgcross
[02:25] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, apt is not so smart when it comes to handling that stuff
[02:25] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, its not technically possible to protect from these problems
[02:25] <mgcross> biovore: any solutions?
[02:25] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  In Gentoo installing a package doesn't have any effect until the final installation stage.  Up to then the package is inable to touch the rest of the system.
[02:25] <biovore> theres a backup mirror..
[02:25] <biovore> let me check my apt
[02:26] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, why?
[02:26] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, and in the final stage it can rm -rf / if it wants to
[02:26] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, find an apt developer, explain what happens, explain why it is a bug and explain a possible solution
[02:26] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  Further, Portage tracks _ALL_ changes made by a package's installation process, allowing you to remove it.
[02:26] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, no idea
[02:26] <ralf> how can I make a video dvd?
[02:26] <biovore> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:26] <mgcross> biovore: thanks!
[02:26] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  nope.  The package cannot remove anything during install, only after first run.
[02:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> did some reserarch and the consensus seems to be that teamspeak useing an esound
[02:26] <jasoncohen> comadreja, thanks for the help
[02:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> wrapper will not alow you to speak
[02:26] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, otherwise, this is not the channel to complain about it
[02:26] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, thats not possible
[02:26] <biovore> hmm..  useing jackd?
[02:26] <mgcross> biovore: so I need to edit my sources list?
[02:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> should i just get a better video card?
[02:27] <biovore> yeah.. mgcross
[02:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> sound card i mean
[02:27] <biovore> yeah.. SB live is cheap these day..
[02:27] <biovore> works great
[02:27] <biovore> what sound card you using now Church?
[02:27] <mgcross> biovore: manually or using net-select?
[02:27] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  Yes it is.  the glibc functions for open(), unlink(), creat(), and the like are overridden with a library called sandbox, which allows (read, write, readwrite, none) to be set for specified paths and endures through exec() calls.
[02:28] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, think about it this way:  most stuff that portage does happens on the ubuntu build servers. the last stage of a portage install is comparable to the whole install when using debs
[02:28] <biovore> mgcross: I just editted /etc/apt/source.list manualy then ran apt-get update
[02:28] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, i know gentoo quite well
[02:28] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  dpkg allows for preinst scripts to be run.
[02:28] <bluefoxicy> this is what caused the current 'damage' which I cannot undo
[02:28] <mgcross> biovore: TY!
[02:29] <biovore> np ;-)
[02:29] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  complaining elsewhere doesn't work.  The bugzilla, you saw.  I'm banned from #ubuntu-devel, and they'd probably laugh it off the mailing list
[02:29] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, try stracing dpkg :)
[02:29] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm:  i tried that as well :(  I also read the preinstall script.
[02:29] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, if you are banned from #ubuntu-devel, I would say there is a good reason for it. In any case, you know where to take your issues. #ubuntu is not that place
[02:29] <bluefoxicy> I tried modifying it to undo what it did.
[02:30] <Strife> anyone in here been using Enlightenment DR17 at all?
[02:30] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  I got banned by daniels when I notified him that X broke, because /usr/bin/X11/Xorg became self-referential (symlink to ../X11/Xorg)
[02:30] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  It only happens during a breezy upgrade from a breezy upgrade at a specific point, apparently.  Today I encountered the same issue.
[02:31] <nickrud_> Strife I tried some debs that someone here built, it worked.
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> biovore an onboard intell soundcard
[02:31] <biovore> ICH5 thing, or laptop
[02:31] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, write a mail to the blackdown ML.
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i'm hopeing that it's the soundcard thats the problem
[02:31] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  You should notice the pattern of developers ignoring problems that they don't see all that much because they're too fucking conceited to care.
[02:31] <biovore> yeah.. I have a intell on my mobo.. POS software card..
[02:32] <Strife> nickrud_: ooh, there are debs?
[02:32] <Strife> because just now I'm trying to build it, and I got an error that ' ' is not in my path
[02:32] <Strife> yes a space
[02:32] <Strife> a space is not in my path
[02:32] <bluefoxicy> chrissturm: Yes, I should ask the blackdown people why in the hell debian packages can make changes that debian's package manager doesn't know how to undo before they're even installed.
[02:32] <robertj> bluefoxicy: did you ever consider they might not care because they have bigger things to worry about?
[02:32] <nickrud_> Strife yeah, and if I had my dsl, I'd put them up for you, but :)
[02:32] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, please be quiet, or you will be kicked from here as well
[02:32] <nickrud_> I'm doing dialup elsewhere at the moment
[02:32] <Strife> nickrud_: oh, so you don't know where they are?
[02:32] <bluefoxicy> robertj:  that's when you do something called "prioritizing;" ignoring an issue isn't prioritizing, it's being an ignorant ass.
[02:33] <robertj> bluefoxity: it's not as if they are ignoring serious problems from an RC, breezy still has months to go, and they are actually working on other things
[02:33] <bluefoxicy> robertj:  my engine is making a knocking noise, but I need gas, so I should ignore the knocking noise and just get gas.  The knocking is nothing, don't ever worry about it.
[02:33] <jasoncohen> why isn't system-config-kickstart added to the gnome menu?
[02:34] <bluefoxicy> robertj:  I think this is more of a problem with the package manager itself than with changes made to breezy.
[02:34] <chrissturm> bluefoxicy, that shows that you dont want a solution, but only bitch around
[02:34] <biovore> someone isn't reading the topic..  quote: "| PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY | "
[02:34] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, should be, under apps-->system-tools-->(something)
[02:34] <chrissturm>  bluefoxicy!*@* added to ignore list.
[02:34] <bluefoxicy> the thing that happened with java for example occurs in hoary too.
[02:34] <robertj> bluefoxicy: well if its a problem with dpkg, file it upstream with debian
[02:34] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, again, this is not an issue for #ubuntu, please be quiet
[02:34] <nickrud_> not anymore, but ivoks provided them, maybe you can search around. He may still have them up.
[02:34] <mgcross> biovore: afraid of screwing this upo as I don't have a clue...don't suppose you'd fire me a copy of YOUR sources.list file...using Hoary
[02:34] <speel> lol
[02:34] <Strife> nickrud_: cool thanks
[02:34] <nalioth> bluefoxicy: they are fixing to remove you from here
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  of course, it's not an issue for anywhere.
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> anyway I'll file it with debian
[02:35] <BockBilbo> hello
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> though when they ask what ver I'm using
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> and I say ubuntu
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> they'll tell me to go bitch at you guys again
[02:35] <mgcross> biovore: fire you my gmail ady?
[02:35] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, lol, heh- it was added as Kickstart. i didn't notice it because it didn't have an icon and i therefore assumed it was one of the iconless kde apps
[02:35] <BockBilbo> Ive notice that the flash player doesnt sound on ubuntu but yes on kubuntu...
[02:35] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, it is actually a gtk app
[02:35] <BockBilbo> i mean, not in gnome, but yes on kde
[02:35] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, there is fix for that
[02:35] <bluefoxicy> Debian cares only about Debian itself, not about derivatives, even if it's an inherited problem
[02:35] <BockBilbo> which one Burgundavia ?
[02:35] <ubuntu__> everytime I try to resize my parition of ext3, gparted fails, any ideas?
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> Burgundavia: really?  I get sound, but what's the fix anyway?
[02:36] <BockBilbo> i guess its a problem with esd and arts
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> is it esd-related?
[02:36] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[02:36] <nalioth> mgcross: is there something special you need in a sources.list?
[02:36] <robertj> if they ask you what version, check dpkg --version and tell them
[02:36] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, the flash plugin is looking in the wrong place
[02:36] <BockBilbo> oh
[02:36] <BockBilbo> i see
[02:36] <BockBilbo> let me try
[02:36] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, yeah i know but there are a bunch of kde apps there that have no icon so i assumed it was one of them. i don't know why i didn't see "Kickstart"
[02:36] <nalioth> ubuntu__: you cant use gparted on a mounted volume
[02:37] <ubuntu__> Its not mounted
[02:37] <nalioth> ubuntu__: then i dont know
[02:37] <speel> hey any ubuntu devs here i have a question :P
[02:38] <^thehatsrule^> see #ubuntu-dev i think?
[02:38] <speel> ah yes forgot about that chann
[02:38] <robertj> I'd avoid ubuntu-dev unless your question is regarding development
[02:38] <Burgundavia> speel, #ubuntu-devel, actually
[02:38] <ubuntu__> nalioth, ever resized a partition in gparted?
[02:38] <robertj> ie. just ask
[02:38] <nalioth> ubuntu__: no i havent
[02:38] <speel> well it is and it is not
[02:38] <robertj> well ask
[02:39] <BockBilbo> thanks Burgundavia :)
[02:39] <BockBilbo> worked
[02:39] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, np
[02:39] <mgcross> cool, thanks...whole thing?
[02:39] <BockBilbo> ive got one last question
[02:39] <Burgundavia> shoot
[02:39] <BockBilbo> it seens that ive got problems with nautilus and smbfs
[02:40] <BockBilbo> ive got a remote share which uses samba
[02:40] <robertj> speel: ?
[02:40] <BockBilbo> and i automount it via fstab everytime i boot
[02:40] <mig`> afternoon everyone
[02:40] <BockBilbo> but sometimes, nautilus gets frozen
[02:40] <mig`> actually, evening
[02:40] <BockBilbo> when trying to access to the directory
[02:40] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> biovore so you think tht if i get a new soundcard that should fix my sound card problems
[02:40] <mig`> i finally did it ;), i installed ubuntu on the usb hdd
[02:40] <BockBilbo> any idea?
[02:41] <mig`> had to make the initrd, and have it wait 5 seconds before launching linuxrc
[02:41] <biovore> Church, I would think so..
[02:41] <biovore> works off the bat here..
[02:41] <speel> like how come devs dont put massivly used programs into their os's like for example flash for the install webbrowsers
[02:41] <nalioth> mig`: congratulations (gonna write a wiki article about it?)
[02:41] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, do you have a spare machine you could test that on Breezy? I know they put some serious smbfs fixes into the new nautilus
[02:41] <biovore> just have to use alsamixer to set the correct audio channels for the mic
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> speel: because flash isn't free
[02:41] <BockBilbo> Burgundavia, i use hoary
[02:41] <speel> like on there own system dont they go to like a flash site and say crap now i have to install flash
[02:41] <Burgundavia> speel, they don't install non-free stuff by default
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> damn then what am i doing wrong
[02:41] <BockBilbo> ive tried using breezy twice
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> can you help me?
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i would love to get it to me to run
[02:41] <nalioth> BockBilbo: he wants to know if you have a spare machine to dev-test breezy smb stuff with
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> right
[02:41] <mig`> sure, i have no problem writing a wiki article about it, but i still haven't gotten everything figured out, the only way i could maek the initrd file, was to install ubuntu on vmware in windows, make the initrd file and then copy it to the usb drive so that it could boot
[02:42] <BockBilbo> and in both times the dist upgrade went wrong
[02:42] <Burgundavia> breezy has a few rough spot
[02:42] <cafuego> And even if you do install flash, it more often than not just crashes the browser.
[02:42] <Burgundavia> s
[02:42] <mig`> this is because the livecd uses the 386 kernel, and ubuntu uses the 686 kernel
[02:42] <cafuego> Coz macromedia suck.
[02:42] <speel> free as in here is the source or free as in here is the program you can see the source
[02:42] <nalioth> mig`: did you look in /boot ?
[02:42] <speel> you cant*
[02:42] <Burgundavia> speel, free as in OSI or DFSG-free
[02:42] <mig`> so when i run mkinitrd it looks for the 386 kernel in /lib/modules/
[02:42] <mig`> and it fails
[02:42] <speel> ah
[02:42] <mig`> nalioth, so that is the problem
[02:42] <Burgundavia> speel, so, both those freedoms, and more
[02:42] <biovore> Church, dose your system only support 1 wav channel?
[02:42] <azriel_> question: i just installed ubuntu, and it plays the start up sound, but when i try to open noatun it says sound device busy and cannot play music, would someone help me please? :)
[02:42] <speel> but that kinda makes no sence you know?
[02:42] <cafuego> speel: The source is not available, but people have hacked together their own versions.
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> speel: it's not free as in Macromedia does not let us touch it or modify it.  It's their stuff.  If it doesn't work, we can't fix it
[02:43] <cafuego> speel: Still, those tend to only run on i386
[02:43] <mig`> nalioth, from inside the livecd i cannot create an initrd
[02:43] <mig`> that's why i had such a hard time with it
[02:43] <BockBilbo> Burgundavia, nalioth sorry, i dont understan what you mean by "sparing machine"
[02:43] <speel> Hmm intresting
[02:43] <BockBilbo> you mean a computer to try it out?
[02:43] <nalioth> BockBilbo: a machine you dont use for important things (like chat)
[02:43] <speel> I dont know i figure if people demand it why not put it in
[02:43] <BockBilbo> oh
[02:43] <BockBilbo> this one
[02:43] <ymee> all, I mounted a second drive hda1 however I cannot write to it unless I am root, how do I fix this
[02:44] <nalioth> BockBilbo: breezy needs a whole nother machine at this point
[02:44] <BockBilbo> yes
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> speel: why not demand that Macromedia let us see the source?
[02:44] <BockBilbo> thats the problem
[02:44] <Burgundavia> speel, if it is not DFSG-free, I seriously doubt they will install it by default
[02:44] <BockBilbo> ive installed ubuntu like 6 times in 5 days in this machine
[02:44] <nickrud_> azriel_ noatun uses a different sound driver than 'ubuntu'.
[02:44] <speel> well no one else cares about the source except devs as long as the end user can use it freely
[02:45] <ymee> how can a normal user get privs to read/write to a drive that root mounted?
[02:45] <biovore> be too
[02:45] <biovore> be root
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> speel: but it doesn't work properly, and I don't think it can be worked into the OS...   every linux distro has issues with it
[02:45] <nickrud_> speel not true, I care
[02:45] <mig`> i have questions regarding wma/mp3/mpg files
[02:45] <nalioth> mig`: shoot
[02:45] <flodine> a guys i need a new libc6 file how can i get it
[02:45] <nickrud_> and if there is a non dev on this list, I am he.
[02:45] <Burgundavia> speel, I like a workable system, but I not willing to sacrafice my freedoms to get it
[02:45] <chope> hi, when i run amarok the splash screen flashes an then the program finishes, what can be happening? it used to work fine
[02:45] <ymee> I added a second drive for more space..want the user to be able to access it
[02:45] <biovore> ymee: you can also add -o user,exe to the mount command, sometimes that works
[02:45] <mig`> i installed xmms, and when i add wma/mp3 files they won't even show up in the playlist and i can't play them, i'm using esound output plugin
[02:46] <BockBilbo> anyways
[02:46] <ymee> biovore thanks let me try that
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> chope: run it from a terminal and paste its output to #flood
[02:46] <nalioths_dog> mig`: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[02:46] <BockBilbo> i think there might be another solution
[02:46] <azriel_> nickrud_, and neither xmms nor movie player could open the mp3 either, can you give me some suggestions to do?
[02:46] <mig`> with totem movie player, it says i dont have the plugins to output it, etc.
[02:46] <mig`> ah, will do, thx
[02:46] <BockBilbo> whats the name of the unix network sharing protocol?
[02:46] <Burgundavia> mig`, you need totem-xine and the w32codecs
[02:46] <biovore> ymee: I might be wrong on the flags.. but there is a user mount flag thing..
[02:46] <eyequeue> NFS
[02:46] <mig`> BockBilbo: nfs ?
[02:46] <BockBilbo> *file sharing
[02:46] <BockBilbo> yeah
[02:46] <speel> i completly agree on what you guys are saying but dont you think if a free program  ( either or not the source is a availible ) that is in high demand should be included?
[02:46] <eyequeue> nfsd (8)             - NFS server process
[02:46] <eyequeue> nfsd (7)             - special filesystem for controlling Linux NFS server
[02:47] <BockBilbo> i guess its possible to share the same directory via nfs and samba
[02:47] <BockBilbo> right?
[02:47] <nickrud_> azriel_ first, i'd look at google ubuntu restricted formats
[02:47] <chope> amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[02:47] <chope> /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:47] <cwillu> I've got this little square dot on my screen
[02:47] <nalioth> mig`: network file system
[02:47] <Burgundavia> speel, convince the developers of that. There are some free java implementations coming along
[02:47] <cwillu> that's stuck on top
[02:47] <nalioth> BockBilbo: correct
[02:47] <BockBilbo> great
[02:47] <Burgundavia> speel, make that flash
[02:47] <BockBilbo> so thats what im going to do
[02:47] <nalioths_dog> azriel_: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[02:47] <BockBilbo> i bet nfs works bether than samba for linux
[02:47] <cwillu> any hints how to get rid of it? (rebooting or killing the x server is not considered a solution)
[02:47] <speel> yea i should Lol
[02:47] <eyequeue> speel:  i think you're defining "free" differently than we would here
[02:47] <nalioth> nickrud_: hows the dialup life?
[02:48] <nickrud_> sucks
[02:48] <azriel_> nalioth, ok
[02:48] <speel> well i mean free as in you can use it with out a price
[02:48] <Burgundavia> speel, http://swift-tools.net/Flash/ and http://www.schleef.org/swfdec/
[02:48] <nalioth> BockBilbo: nfs works on all unices, samba is a windows crutch
[02:48] <nickrud_> although, it's livable with some tools
[02:48] <mig`> OK, well
[02:48] <eyequeue> speel:  think freedom, not free-from-payment
[02:48] <BockBilbo> yeah, i know nalioth
[02:48] <mig`> nalioth, i don't mind creating a wiki article on this
[02:48] <BockBilbo> is it easy to configure?
[02:48] <nalioth> mig`: please do
[02:48] <mig`> however, it wont be too good
[02:48] <mig`> since, i dont know how to make the initrd file w/out another installation of ubuntu
[02:49] <cafuego> speel: I don't have or use flash and the web is a wonderfully quiet and information rich place.
[02:49] <nalioth> mig`: some knowledge is good, others can add to it/ fill it in (that what a wiki is)
[02:49] <mig`> like i said before, i couldn't run mkinitrd from the livecd
[02:49] <mig`> ok, will do then ;)
[02:50] <speel> yes it is ;) but i mean its a pain in the butt that if i need to see a flash enabled site for school i should be able to see it with out inputing and commands or looking up faqs
[02:50] <nickrud_> dialup: no flash, no images, mail and updates overnight. irc is doable, though :)
[02:50] <speel> any*
[02:50] <cwillu> I've got a little square dot about |_| big.  Anybody know how to get rid of it?
[02:50] <Burgundavia> speel, flash is not installed by default on a windows system either
[02:50] <Adross> what program can convert an ogg back to an mp3?
[02:50] <speel> Hmm true on that one
[02:50] <nalioth> speel: the pain in the ass is people not taking into consieration the users of f/oss and having a flash-only site
[02:50] <biovore> cwillu:what kind of dot?
[02:50] <cwillu> like a broken piece of gnome
[02:51] <nalioth> Adross: the sound quality will suffer in the doing
[02:51] <Burgundavia> cwillu, can you show us a screenie?
[02:51] <cwillu> it's always on top, I can't move it (alt or otherwise), can't kill it with the force quit applet
[02:51] <biovore> cwillu, no clue..
[02:51] <speel> yea i suppose
[02:51] <cwillu> one sec
[02:51] <Adross> they were mp3 to begin with, converted and i didn't really lose much. Plus its lugradio, not music anyway
[02:51] <Burgundavia> speel, flash is also terrible for usablity and accessiblity
[02:51] <cwillu> where's the dump point?
[02:51] <tiglionabbit> Burgundavia: all of the internet is
[02:51] <Burgundavia> Adross, you can download ogg from lugradio
[02:51] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, indeed
[02:51] <nalioth> Adross: open synaptic and search for 'ogg mp3' in the 'contents'
[02:52] <Burgundavia> cwillu, image shack
[02:52] <Adross> yes, i know that, *now*
[02:52] <nalioth> Adross: can't remember the prog name
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> Burgundavia: it's as if people can get a degree in anti-usability
[02:52] <mig`> OK, well i have to go
[02:52] <Adross> kk
[02:52] <cwillu> image shack?
[02:52] <mig`> I'll be back
[02:52] <Burgundavia> cwillu, google it
[02:52] <mig`> But, I'll add to the wiki
[02:52] <mig`> bbl
[02:52] <Burgundavia> cwillu, free image hosting
[02:52] <speel> well many sites i go to require flash and some people that come over and use my comp somtimes go to sites that require flash so yea
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> by using image-maps and slices to build a page that looks good but is difficult to use
[02:52] <biovore> JFGI -- Just Fucking Google it  :-)
[02:53] <Adross> bye
[02:53] <nickrud_> biovore maybe, The Fine Google Engine :)
[02:53] <nalioth> speel: when i make a site, i always include a non-flash entry (for blind and deaf people <sux to hear flash on a screen reader>)
[02:53] <biovore> hehe
[02:53] <speel> thats good Lol i wish all people did that
[02:54] <cwillu> <a href="http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/3999/screenshot7jo.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>
[02:54] <cwillu> sorry
[02:54] <cwillu> http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png
[02:54] <azriel_> let'see if this works now
[02:54] <speel> so basicly if the source is out there devs are more then welcomed to include it into ubuntu  or any distro?
[02:55] <nalioth> speel: if it's gpl'd
[02:55] <Burgundavia> nalioth, DFSG-free, not just gpl
[02:55] <Burgundavia> and free to redistribute stuff can go in multiverse
[02:55] <Burgundavia> such as flash
[02:55] <eyequeue> speel:  source availability is only one aspect of freedom
[02:55] <nalioth> ok, then "open source licensed"
[02:55] <cwillu> centre of the screen, at the top
[02:56] <Burgundavia> cwillu, that is odd, maybe something to do with shifted menus
[02:56] <nalioth> idk what DFSG is
[02:56] <cwillu> fyi, it doesn't move with the menus
[02:56] <speel> then why are there so little packsages supported by ubuntu ( not including multiverse and the other sources )
[02:56] <Burgundavia> nalioth, Debian Free Software Guidelines, the foundation for the Open Source Definition
[02:56] <tiglionabbit> speel: Ubuntu wants to support a small amount of packages to make them uh, quality
[02:56] <nalioth> Burgundavia: ah, ty
[02:57] <eyequeue> speel:  "main" can be thought of as the "core" of the system, i suppose
[02:57] <Burgundavia> speel, because every supported package means more work. The policy is one good app for main
[02:57] <cwillu> anybody got a solution for the mystery dot?
[02:57] <tiglionabbit> cwillu: what dot?
[02:57] <Burgundavia> so not every mail app out there is supported
[02:57] <speel> ah ok :)
[02:57] <cwillu> http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7jo.png
[02:57] <cwillu> centre top
[02:58] <Burgundavia> cwillu, that is a menu that doesn't have anything it it, by looks of it
[02:58] <cwillu> that I can't kill
[02:58] <eyequeue> nalioth:  http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[02:58] <Burgundavia> cwillu, I assume you have tried logging in and out?
[02:58] <cwillu> it's always on top, I can't kill it via force quit
[02:58] <speel> me my self i dont care if the source is there or not because i cant code for the life of me Lol just aslong as its free and supports linux
[02:58] <tiglionabbit> I don't see the dot
[02:58] <cwillu> and I'm trying to do work... killing the x server is not a solution, it's the same as the windows 'reboot'
[02:58] <eyequeue> speel:  "free" meaning freedom?
[02:58] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, right underneatht he start of the notification area
[02:59] <cwillu> :)
[02:59] <speel> free as no cost what so ever
[02:59] <cwillu> alt drag doesn't move it
[02:59] <Burgundavia> speel, you see, but forcing things to be DFSG-free, debian has made a lot of difference
[02:59] <eyequeue> speel:  i think your differing definition may be the souce of confusion
[02:59] <nickrud_> speel the cliche is, free as in speech, free as in beer
[02:59] <golgor> anyone can tell me how to get root access in gnome?
[03:00] <eyequeue> speel:  cost isn't the issue, nor is just-source-availability
[03:00] <cwillu> gksudo command or sudo command if its terminal based
[03:00] <nickrud_> speech means you can change it, beer means you can use it
[03:00] <Burgundavia> golgor, have your read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo ?
[03:00] <speel> ah ok
[03:00] <cwillu> i.e., gksudo nautilus ~<yourname> will bring up your home directory in a root window
[03:00] <golgor> no Burgundavia, ill do that
[03:00] <Burgundavia> cwillu, try removing the notification area and readding it
[03:01] <eyequeue> speel:  hand me the source code to something, but tell me that i can't use it is i am married, that means it is no longer free (and notice i've not mentioned money at all)
[03:01] <cwillu> aha
[03:01] <cwillu> thansk :)
[03:01] <cwillu> thanks, even!
[03:01] <MikeA> anyone here use gammu?
[03:01] <eyequeue> speel:  IF i am married
[03:01] <Burgundavia> cwillu, did that do it?
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> Burgundavia: I still can't see it
[03:01] <speel> yea i getcha
[03:01] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, right under the start of the notification area
[03:01] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, the dotted line
[03:01] <Burgundavia> there is a little box under that line
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> the dotted line?  That's supposed to be there
[03:02] <cwillu> that did it
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> it's part of the notification area
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> oh, you mean the thing hanging off of it?
[03:02] <eyequeue> speel:  now granted, as a broke-person, money ends up being important too, heheheh
[03:02] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, the little thing just beneath it
[03:02] <speel> lol
[03:02] <Burgundavia> cwillu, I suspect some menu that didn't close properly
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> hehe, that's odd.  Can you right-click it?  can you drag it off?
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> can you kill your gnome panel?
[03:02] <cwillu> no, the weird little box between the two windows that was floating
[03:03] <cwillu> and removing and readding the notification area made it go away as well
[03:03] <cwillu> and no, I couldn't right click or alt-drag or force quite
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> well uh, good, the crazy thingy is gone, yes?
[03:03] <cwillu> lol
[03:03] <Burgundavia> cwillu, that is why I worked in a help desk
[03:03] <cwillu> you'd rather be lucky than good anyway :)
[03:03] <cwillu> :p
[03:03] <Burgundavia> cwillu, obtuse explanations and bizarre screenshots are my specialty
[03:04] <cwillu> I thought that, I tried bringing up all the menus and closing them (seen it fix things before)... must have died completely
[03:04] <Burgundavia> if for somereason the system cannot read the file that defines a menu, a little box will show up as well
[03:05] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i can't beleve that ubuntu made #1 on all distrwatch boards!
[03:05] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> thats awsome
[03:05] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> ^_^
[03:05] <speel> hey in college is there any linux type classes?
[03:05] <biovore> it nice for a desktop.. some glitches still but there working them..
[03:05] <Burgundavia> speel, some collegs offer it
[03:06] <biovore> depends on the college
[03:06] <tiglionabbit> speel: I bet if you went to UC Berkely, they would teach you about Berkely Software Distribution
[03:06] <tiglionabbit> at UCSC we use Solaris.  Bleh
[03:06] <speel> like do u know what kina classes
[03:07] <cwillu> doh
[03:07] <Burgundavia> speel, everything you want, if you go to the right places
[03:07] <biovore> well most colleges unix is unix..  solaris,linux,bsd
[03:07] <cwillu> now I'm seeing a shadow accross the bottom half of my screen
[03:07] <cwillu> but
[03:07] <Burgundavia> cwillu, that thing reappear?
[03:07] <biovore> uncle sam uses alot of solaris
[03:07] <speel> ah bsd <3
[03:07] <cwillu> it moves as I look up or down :(
[03:07] <Arnia> Durham uses a wonderful mix of Solaris (for the servers), RedHat (for the Linux XServer) and XP for the client machines
[03:07] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY there were a _lot_ of people looking for a recent debian stable -- ubuntu came first.
[03:08] <randabis> Yeah most colleges I've seen that teach unix use solaris
[03:08] <cwillu> and goes at an angle when I turn bend my head over
[03:08] <Arnia> Not that they support any of them
[03:08] <Arnia> ;)
[03:08] <speel> well i live in nyc so the has to b somthing
[03:08] <randabis> Though I have seen them also show students around on Red Hat Linux
[03:08] <cwillu> anybody know a good medical irc?
[03:08] <BockBilbo> im trying to configure nfs, and i need to modify a line in portman's config file which should be in /etc/default/portmap, but it isnt there, anyone knows where can i find it?
[03:08] <biovore> speel, RPI has linux I belive..
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> nickrud_ thats awsome i recomend it as a great linux starter to get used to
[03:08] <speel> rpi?
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> for my customers
[03:09] <biovore> Rensler polytechnical Instute, it in NY I belive..
[03:09] <randabis> BockBilbo: the file isn't there or the line isn't?
[03:09] <BockBilbo> randabis, the file
[03:09] <speel> hm il check it out
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it has to be the easyest linux ever
[03:09] <cwillu> Burgundavia, I've just got a bad case of eye strain, I hope
[03:09] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY I've been using deb stuff for a while, and you (IMHO) are giving a decent pointer at the moment
[03:09] <randabis> BockBilbo: you can probably just create the file yourself
[03:09] <cwillu> but thanks :)
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and for that i'm thankfull to the thousands of people who made it
[03:09] <BockBilbo> but, it should have some config info
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> they did a wonderfull job
[03:10] <BockBilbo> im afraid thats not the solution
[03:10] <biovore> the best linux for learning I belive is slackware.. no fun flurls and shit.. have to go nose to the stone.. or if your nuts theres always linux from scratch
[03:10] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> nickrud_ i only endorse software to my customers that i like
[03:10] <cwillu> biovore, only for people who like that sort of thing
[03:10] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and beleve in linux now is the only one
[03:10] <biovore> cwillu, rgr that
[03:10] <cwillu> it's like saying you need to do an engine rebuild to learn how to drive a car
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it is stable can do more than xp and is free
[03:11] <nickrud_> ChurcH_of_FOamY I tried ubuntu based on a few names I heard were associated with it. I follow the rock stars ;)
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and that beings the cost of my computers down by 25%
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> which names?
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> lol nice
[03:11] <nickrud_> james troup, to start
[03:11] <biovore> linux still has some to go..  it great on servers, but as a desktop its got some drawback mainly do to the wintel empire..
[03:11] <randabis> BockBilbo: I seriously doubt it will matter. I've done several nfs configurations without needing to even touch that file. If it doesn't work you can just delete it anyway
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> say, does anyone know of a tablet pc I can get that doesn't include windows?
[03:11] <cwillu> hmm
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> tiglionabbit,  i recall a few mo ago a company named "element" i think that sold onw with linux
[03:12] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> its nice to be able to give my customers something that actually works
[03:12] <biovore> there are a few tables that work with linux
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> tiglionabbit,  it was like under $1000 also i think was a big selling point.. but they may not even be around any more.
[03:12] <BockBilbo> ok randabis
[03:12] <BockBilbo> gonna try it
[03:12] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and dosen't cost an arm and a leg to use
[03:12] <moparfan90> hello
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> Dr_Willis: weren't those only available in bulk orders of 24 machines?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> my main project is compiling a list of all the linux compatable hardware out there
[03:13] <cwillu> it's not so much that everything that windows has must be on the desktop for it to be usable, more that everything that the desktop says it provides must actually be there and work out of the box
[03:13] <moparfan90> does anyone now some good extras that would make my ubuntu linux computer nicer?
[03:13] <randabis> BockBilbo: also, ubuntu "may" have that file located somewhere else, not sure
[03:13] <biovore> you be amazed what works.. :-)
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> tiglionabbit,  no clue. They aint even on the sites store any more.
[03:13] <cafuego> I think the problem was that manufacturers wanted to ship tablet machines, but customers weren't interested in them.
[03:13] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, you should talk to ogra
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> really?
[03:13] <moparfan90>  does anyone now some good extras that would make my ubuntu linux computer nicer?
[03:13] <robertj> moparin: document holder?
[03:13] <biovore> I got the MS sidewinder kinda working..
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> who's that?
[03:13] <robertj> moparin: or fuzzy dice
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> never met ehr
[03:13] <biovore> if its USB, it doable
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> or him
[03:14] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, you asked earlier, what sort  of "extras"
[03:14] <Quest-Master> ChurcH_of_FOamY: Him :P
[03:14] <moparfan90> well anything realy
[03:14] <BockBilbo> randabis, you where right
[03:14] <BockBilbo> it wasnt needed
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> oh lol
[03:14] <robertj> cafuego: I'm very interested in a tablet PC but not a laptop that has a pivoting screen
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, usually they hang out in #ubuntu-motu
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i orderd a 100 copys of ubuntu
[03:14] <cafuego> moparfan90: You could glue a large wing to the back and add spoilers down the bottom; maybe also some blue LEDs.
[03:14] <randabis> BockBilbo: good :)
[03:14] <cafuego> moparfan90: That will also make it run twice as fast.
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, he is in charge of the hardware database app for ubuntu
[03:14] <Strife> woah woah woah
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and can't waite to get them here
[03:14] <Arnia> moparfan90: I'd quite like a thermonuclear device, but that's just me ;)
[03:14] <Strife> is there no xnest in the ubuntu repositories?
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> oh wow
[03:15] <Burgundavia> Strife, yes there is
[03:15] <cafuego> !find Xnest
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> Strife: I got xnest from them
[03:15] <ubotu> xnest: (nested X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 1348 kB, Installed size: 3492 kB
[03:15] <moparfan90> no i ment software.....
[03:15] <Strife> how come it doesn't show up when I search for it then?
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i have 10 stores that will let me put the os on there shelves
[03:15] <Strife> is it a problem since I'm using backports?
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> for free
[03:15] <cafuego> Strife: It may be in universe, which you may or may not have in sources.list
[03:15] <moparfan90> free
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and that rocks so hardcore
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> say, is there a big reason why universe isn't enabled by default?
[03:16] <BockBilbo> nfs seens easier to configure than samba
[03:16] <cafuego> moparfan90: Start synaptic, have a look at what's there. (all software will slow it down though)
[03:16] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, if you are talking about promotion, you might want to speak to mako or sabdfl
[03:16] <Quest-Master> tiglionabbit: Legal issues
[03:16] <Burgundavia> Quest-Master, no
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> are they here?
[03:16] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, not supported by default
[03:16] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit bandwith issues
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> or in a nother channel
[03:16] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: Takes a while to fetch the package file on 56k
[03:16] <cwillu> tiglionabbit:  and it also keeps beginners out of (unsupported) trouble :)
[03:16] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FOamY, try #ubuntu-devel
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> cause yes i am wanting to promote ubuntu
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it works....period
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> yeah but the thing is, we always have beginners coming in here and asking how to get universe software
[03:17] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, then they add it
[03:17] <cwillu> and then we can explain the issues
[03:17] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, the solution is make adding it easier, not adding by default
[03:17] <Strife> no, I have universe in sources.list
[03:17] <moparfan90> whats the difference between multiverse and universe for ubuntu?????
[03:17] <nickrud_> I don't think support is an issue in universe, anymore
[03:17] <robertj> tig: well stupid kids are always asking how they can get spinning hubcaps but you don't see them as a stock option
[03:17] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, both are unsupported
[03:17] <cwillu> rather than "ooo... this is neat"  followed by "I wonder what this does?" finished by "ubuntu sucks, I installed one package and the whole thing blew up"
[03:17] <moparfan90> what?
[03:17] <biovore> more prackages
[03:17] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, universe is DFSG-free, mulitverse is free like beer
[03:17] <biovore> lol, good one..
[03:17] <^thehatsrule^> DFSG-free?
[03:18] <randabis> BockBilbo: it is easier. :) It's a very tried and true file transfer system
[03:18] <Strife> sigh
[03:18] <robertj> Debian Free Software Guideliens
[03:18] <Strife> I'll deal with not having xnest for now
[03:18] <Strife> I'll figure it out later
[03:18] <moparfan90> beers not free?
[03:18] <biovore> things like flash
[03:18] <nickrud_> Debian Free Software Guidelines, the most resrictive thing out there :)
[03:18] <syrell> Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher? I used the Screen Resolution menu, but I can't get higher then 1024x768.  Which makes no sense cause I  have a 19" monitor, and a FX5700LE video card I know supports well past 1600x1200.  Anyone help please?
[03:18] <Burgundavia> nickrud_, no
[03:18] <cafuego> moparfan90: Last time I checked robbing a brewery was a crime.
[03:18] <nickrud_> no?
[03:18] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> oh yea flash is not free beer
[03:18] <BockBilbo> randabis, and can i mount a remote share with remote user permits?
[03:18] <godsmoke> syrell: edit your xorg/xfree86 config
[03:18] <robertj> is there a list of the ubuntu Google projects?
[03:18] <Burgundavia> Strife, there is a good wiki page for it
[03:19] <nickrud_> uh, I mean, not in a bad sense
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> syrell: you may need to add those to the Modes lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:19] <Burgundavia> Strife, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:19] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> some how they need to make linux versions of non free software
[03:19] <Burgundavia> robertj, yes
[03:19] <cwillu> guh... I _think_ the xorg config will let you do it
[03:19] <cwillu> better than diving into config files
[03:19] <robertj> Burgundavia: ooh, where?
[03:19] <Burgundavia> robertj, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties things with Google beside them
[03:19] <Strife> Burgundavia: yeah thanks... I don't know why I wouldn't have it though since I already have universe, multiverse, and backports
[03:19] <randabis> BockBilbo: I believe so.
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: like gaim, openoffice, and wine?
[03:19] <biovore> probabem is there isn't much deman for linux version of wintel applications..
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> yea but they should extenbd that to flash mp3 and others
[03:20] <chope> hi, i was having this problem "error while loading shared libraries: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file:", now i've installed nvidia-glx drivers, and the problem changed to "relocation error: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000510gl", do you know how could i fix this?
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> altho i must say that open office rocks
[03:20] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, nfs is designed for a simple age, but isn't very secure
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and gaim is nice too
[03:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: they are working on flash, but it has to be reverse-engineered due to legal issues
[03:20] <cwillu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server maybe?  just keep hitting enter for stuff you don't know;  I think the worst that can happen is you end up with the default autodetect settings
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> of course
[03:20] <tiglionabbit> My friend is working on flash, in fact
[03:20] <BockBilbo> i dont care about security
[03:20] <biovore> chope, what you use to install the nvidia driver APT?
[03:20] <BockBilbo> im in a home LAN
[03:21] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, ok
[03:21] <BockBilbo> brbr
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> if it where me i'd say screw the copy right and do it anyways
[03:21] <BockBilbo> gonna reboot to see how it works
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> stupid copyrighters
[03:21] <cwillu> heh
[03:21] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: and then you'd get sued
[03:21] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: if it were possible, they'd do it
[03:21] <cwillu> tell that to microsft :p
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and they's get what no money
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> cause i'm broke
[03:22] <moparfan90> any one good software thats free? thats good
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and i mean beoke
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> they can have the mothballs in my wallet
[03:22] <cwillu> and so they take any wages you _do_ get for the next while, maybe haul you off to jail for a bit
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and i have told microcrap to kiss my ass
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> in there forums
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> gothere and search for kisain_pendragon
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i left q really vivid verbal review of there os
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> telling gates to shove it up his ****
[03:23] <cwillu> make a website that offers xp for download and see what happens :p
[03:23] <nickrud_> lol, venting can be good
[03:23] <moparfan90> do alot of other linux OS's use software like synpaic
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and i bitched at him for contributing to the dumbing down of the world
[03:23] <cwillu> moparfan90, it's a debian thing I think
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and then suggested that people use linix
[03:24] <moparfan90> o
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> ^_^
[03:24] <cwillu> the apt package system
[03:24] <nalioth> moparfan90: most debian distros, and some others
[03:24] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: why not join the flash development team?  I'll find the info when I talk to my friend
[03:24] <moparfan90> whats the difference between debian and ubuntu????
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i don't know how to programm
[03:24] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: ubuntu is newer, and geared toward desktop use
[03:24] <cwillu> tiglionabbit:  does he _sound_ like a programmer?  :)
[03:24] <nalioth> moparfan90: debian is linux and ubuntu is pimped out debian
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i wish i did cause i'd loveto be able to contribute to the linux community
[03:24] <BockBilbo> randabis, im back
[03:24] <tiglionabbit> cwillu: nope
[03:24] <moparfan90> ooo
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> they have given me so much ^_^
[03:24] <moparfan90> i see
[03:25] <nickrud_> moparfan90 right now, ubuntu is a frozen version of an old debian unstable.
[03:25] <cwillu> I suppose he could be a rc tester (I wouldn't inflict beta on him)
[03:25] <moparfan90> ooo
[03:25] <Nameless1> i set my computer up with gnome originaly but now im used to kde, the new version of kde is sooo nice.... anyway its not auto mounting my cdroms\dvds i dont know why, it worked in gnome. can someone tell me how to get it to "redetect" them ??
[03:25] <Burgundavia> nickrud_, sort of correct
[03:25] <nalioth> moparfan90: but it's better than the debian unstable in question
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> rc testor?
[03:25] <nickrud_> moparfan90 with, a lot of extra work :)
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> whats that?
[03:25] <Burgundavia> nickrud_, the current Ubuntu stable is based off of Debian unstable
[03:25] <moparfan90> oooo   ok
[03:25] <moparfan90> :)
[03:25] <Nameless1> by the way if someone could tell me how to install cdrdao that would be great too
[03:25] <BockBilbo> it seens that the fstab line i typed works fine, though i do not have rw access
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> who cares it works
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> ah here it is, GPLFlash: http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/
[03:26] <Burgundavia> and it stays synced off of Unstable until it freezes and releases
[03:26] <nalioth> Nameless1: use apt-get or synaptic
[03:26] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and thats all it needs to do is work
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> word on that, ChurcH_of_FOamY
[03:26] <Burgundavia> and now breezy syncs to unstable
[03:26] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: and good luck using gpl flash
[03:26] <moparfan90> 4th july today :):):):):)
[03:26] <nickrud_> Burgundavia yeah, I'm aware of that, and I do value the extra labor :)
[03:26] <Burgundavia> nickrud_, yes
[03:26] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: =P I'm not using it, but my friend is trying to develop it so he can get flash on his amd64
[03:26] <Nameless1> nalioth: i know that but its not working for this specific file
[03:26] <cwillu> how is ubuntu on the 64 bit platforms?
[03:27] <syrell> tiglionabbit: i made those changes you made to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf - to i just reload the shell to have my changes propogate?
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> so whats an rc testeer?
[03:27] <cwillu> a made up word :)
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> oh ok
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> cwillu: good, but bad.  Some things you have to install multiple libraries for, install a 32 bit version where a 64 bit one doesn't exist
[03:27] <cwillu> beta tester is testing stuff which works but isn't finished or bug tested yet
[03:27] <syrell> tiglionabbit: *changes you suggested rather
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> oh ok
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> syrell: in order for those changes to take effect, you will have to kill X.  Log out and log back in
[03:27] <moparfan90> anyone have alot of free time to teaxh me something?????????????????
[03:27] <moparfan90> teach*
[03:28] <cwillu> rc is short for 'release candidate', which is usually the final push to release... few bugs, already stable, just minor middly details usually
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> it's weard i tryed a dozen distro's used every version of windows including longhorn
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> syrell: you may need to hit control-alt-backspace while you're staring at GDM
[03:28] <BockBilbo> randabis, any idea of how to make it rw for average users?
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> and ubuntu is the only one i beleve in
[03:28] <syrell> tiglionabbit: thanks for your help. hope this works :)
[03:28] <nalioth> Nameless1: what is it telling you?
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: longhorn...  isn't released until 2008, is it?
[03:28] <pinko> believe in?
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> correct
[03:28] <moparfan90> anyone have alot of free time to teach me something?????????????????
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> so how'd you try it?
[03:29] <cwillu> moparfan90:  you'll have more luck if you just blurt it out
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i was a beta tester for microsoft >.<
[03:29] <nalioth> moparfan90: depends on the subjec
[03:29] <moparfan90> programming
[03:29] <pinko> moparfan90: small amounts of time for small precise questions
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FOamY: what did you think of it?  Oh, and how did you get that position?
[03:29] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: if we're lucky, 2010
[03:29] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: with bittorrent you can test _any_ os release.
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: rofl
[03:29] <cwillu> LOL
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> i applyed for it at microsfts website
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> you have to sighn a contract though
[03:29] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: what?! WE are ALL beta testers for microshaft
[03:29] <Nameless1> Package cdrdao is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:29] <Nameless1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:29] <Nameless1> is only available from another source
[03:29] <Nameless1> E: Package cdrdao has no installation candidate
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: think I could get a nintendo DS dev kit from bittorrent?
[03:29] <cafuego> and with bittorrent you won't need to PAY to beta test either ;-)
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> that basicly puts a gag order on you
[03:30] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: Yes
[03:30] <moparfan90> ok.. anyone have alot of ime to teach me programming?????????
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> vioplating that=prison time
[03:30] <Nameless1> nalioth: that other package is installed too
[03:30] <cwillu> Nameless1, is that off apt-get/synaptic?
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: I wish I knew where...
[03:30] <nalioth> moparfan90: pay attention
[03:30] <nalioth> Nameless1: open a terminal
[03:30] <cafuego> ChurcH_of_FOamY: Honestly, running any windows version is prison enough
[03:30] <cwillu> (nevermind)
[03:30] <Nameless1> apt-get but trust me i have tried both and cant find the cdrdao thing
[03:30] <nalioth> Nameless1: are all your repos enabled?
[03:30] <Skywind> Did someone know how to restrict normal user restart computer on Gnome? (I removed S bit of shutdown, halt alreadey)
[03:30] <I-IIEars> Nameles1 - i got it using Synaptic yesterday using synaptic - huh.
[03:30] <cwillu> apt-get/synaptic is the same thing
[03:31] <moparfan90> nalioth: to what?
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> cafugo true that man true that
[03:31] <Nameless1> i asked for help on this earlier and got a apt command but it was not install and that worked since then i formated and forgot the command
[03:31] <cwillu> did you have it on there already?
[03:31] <nalioth> moparfan90: am fixin to teach Nameless1 something
[03:31] <Nameless1> i think it was apt-get *something starting with a* cdrdao
[03:31] <moparfan90> o
[03:31] <nickrud_> moparfan90 sure, $85 us an hour, with no promis you'll learn anything :)
[03:31] <nalioth> Nameless1: do you have all your repos enabled?
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> yea i know tons of stuff i just can't talk about it
[03:31] <cwillu> or have you added others?
[03:31] <Nameless1> repos?
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> but i'll let you in on some stuf if you pm me
[03:31] <cwillu> repositories\
[03:32] <I-IIEars> "Repositories" - file sites
[03:32] <flodine> can i update to a new kernel in ubuntu
[03:32] <moparfan90> well. i want for someone to help me lean it.   i kno there someone out there thats nice .... and that wont charge me..
[03:32] <nalioths_dog> Nameless1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:32] <Nameless1> probably not, but i did set it up i added a url to the repositorys thing thru a text editor if thats what u mean
[03:32] <nickrud_> repositories = web addresses where packages are found
[03:32] <zcat> moparfan90, teach yourself Python. it's easy.
[03:32] <nalioths_dog> Nameless1: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:32] <I-IIEars> Nameless1 - If you use Synaptic i can walk you through it.
[03:32] <moparfan90> whats python used for?
[03:32] <Nameless1> i added a repository but it was not the official one
[03:32] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, a lot
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: python is a scripting/programming language
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: it has its own openGL implementation
[03:33] <cwillu> Nameless1, what are you trying to install again?
[03:33] <Nameless1> cdrdao
[03:33] <nalioth> I-IIEars: i beleive Nameless1 will need to build it using apt get soucrc -b
[03:33] <moparfan90> for what
[03:33] <I-IIEars> cdrdao
[03:33] <moparfan90> ?
[03:33] <nickrud_> moparfan90 as far I as I've found, python is the 'official' glue for ubuntu
[03:33] <zcat> moparfan90, the official bittorrent is written in python, for example. so is the redhat anaconda installer.
[03:33] <cwillu> in synaptic, right click on the package and pull up the dependencies
[03:34] <moparfan90> o
[03:34] <zcat> ChurcH_of_FOamY, you proud of your 'secrets' eh? heh
[03:34] <nalioth_wrkn> moparfan90: i'll teach you something later
[03:34] <cwillu> and then dependant packages
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FOamY> zcat not really
[03:34] <moparfan90> i want to evenualy make a game with some other people so.. what do i need for that
[03:34] <moparfan90> ?
[03:34] <BockBilbo> Burgundavia, do you know how to make the mounted nfs files rw for normal users?
[03:34] <Nameless1> nalioth_wrkn: i dont think i looked in the source repositarys so i think that will work
[03:34] <nalioth_wrkn> I-IIEars: if you want to help Nameless1 out
[03:35] <Burgundavia> BockBilbo, no idea
[03:35] <I-IIEars> apt-get? - erm - i use synaptic.
[03:35] <zcat> moparfan90, google 'pygame'. that's the easiest way to get started.
[03:35] <Nameless1> i have been searchin in synapt for the file too.... its not comin up
[03:35] <moparfan90> ok
[03:35] <cwillu> I think you've lost a repo
[03:36] <Nameless1> this happend before and i was told to type apt-get *something starting with a* cdrdao  that WORKED
[03:36] <Nameless1> does anyone know what that something was
[03:36] <cwillu> just search for cdrdao
[03:36] <moparfan90> is pygame good fo a first person shooter???
[03:36] <cwillu> i've got it showing up in mine... if it doesn't in yours then a repository is missing
[03:36] <biovore> no
[03:36] <Nameless1> cwillu:  ihave been doin that...
[03:36] <biovore> check out DSL moparfan90
[03:36] <biovore> (SDL)
[03:36] <biovore> libsdl.org
[03:36] <cwillu> okay, pull up your repository list
[03:37] <biovore> or pester icculurs..
[03:37] <moparfan90> dsl?? i have cable?
[03:37] <biovore> SDL
[03:37] <moparfan90> o
[03:37] <moparfan90> whats that
[03:37] <I-IIEars> Nameless1 CDRDAO.deb dpkg -i   ??     http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/cdrdao.html
[03:37] <biovore> a libary and code for media access.. like Direct X for linux
[03:37] <moparfan90> whats SDL?
[03:37] <biovore> got some cool code samples..
[03:38] <biovore> http://www.libsdl.org/index.php  <-- read
[03:38] <biovore> it what all the game porter use to port games from windows to linux
[03:38] <biovore> UT uses this in linux
[03:39] <moparfan90> o
[03:39] <I-IIEars> "Cedega Headache" - someone please pass the aspirin bottle.. - lol
[03:39] <nickrud_> cwillu take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//ExampleConffiles, it has a good repository/section section
[03:39] <biovore> cedega == crap
[03:39] <cwillu> nickrud_... wrong guy :p
[03:39] <nickrud_> heh, soorry :)
[03:39] <moparfan90> biovore: whats a goood windows emulator then???
[03:40] <cwillu> moparfan90, what do you need to run?
[03:41] <moparfan90> i want to run hl2
[03:41] <moparfan90> half life 2
[03:41] <cwillu> hmm
[03:41] <biovore> well all of them emulate windows perfectly.. they crash all the fucking time..
[03:41] <I-IIEars> "2.4 kernel is recommended for stability" - DOH! (slaps forehead)
[03:41] <biovore> HL2 + linux == sucks
[03:41] <nickrud_> moparfan90 in my experience, there is no good windows emulator, although win tries, and qemu almost gets there
[03:41] <cafuego> Via emulation? Did you want  aframe rate higher then 4?
[03:41] <cwillu> Transgaming is your best bet;  it's a wine fork with good directX support
[03:41] <biovore> I did it with cedega
[03:41] <cwillu> but it's not free as in beer (and not quite free as in freedom)
[03:41] <biovore> steam works under cedega ok,, the game runs slow under cedega
[03:42] <cwillu> like 5 bucks a month or so I think
[03:42] <moparfan90> i have cedega via CVS and it suck balls
[03:42] <biovore> if you want to pay for it..
[03:42] <biovore> BT
[03:42] <biovore> http://www.timedoctor.org/gimps/byjvalenzu/winex.jpg
[03:42] <I-IIEars> If Cedega ever runs for me i am going to make a backupchisleled in stone. - this is a lot of work.
[03:43] <juju> Hi I just install kde Kubuntu in my ubuntu box but I have a problem with the video card .The display is showing me that I have the option to chose from 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 .But kde it did set up at 640x480 and that is to big but when I tried to configure the display  with gui because I do not know the shell,I got stuck the display is to big and the radio for the apply the change is way down the window and is not reachable so there is no way
[03:43] <biovore> I don't like cedega, rather have a native port
[03:43] <^thehatsrule^> same
[03:43] <freddy> if i downloaded Adobe Acrobat..where is the right place to install stuff i download?
[03:43] <^thehatsrule^> most games emulated reduces my performance more than half
[03:43] <moparfan90> desktop
[03:43] <cwillu> freddy, you want to find .deb files if you can at all
[03:43] <cafuego> freddy: I';m sure there's an acroread package in restricted
[03:43] <Burgundavia> freddy, use apt to install it
[03:43] <I-IIEars> biovore - "" UT99 - UT2k4 run better than in windows
[03:43] <moparfan90> oo
[03:43] <cafuego> !info acroread
[03:43] <freddy> like it has a installer script...where should i point all the stuff i want to instal?
[03:43] <biovore> yeah HL2 isn't playable under cedega
[03:43] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 5.10-0.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 8956 kB, Installed size: 25228 kB
[03:44] <biovore> yeah,, I have UT2k4 here.. works like a champ in linux
[03:44] <cafuego> multiverse even
[03:44] <adwait> can someone help me her? apt-get is not working here...
[03:44] <freddy> oh ok i got it....but what if i want to install it with the installer script?
[03:44] <biovore> icculus did a awsome job with UT
[03:44] <cafuego> freddy: Add multiverse to sources.list and 'apt-get install acroread'
[03:44] <freddy> is there a place where all the appl should go?
[03:44] <nickrud_> adwait what's the problem?
[03:44] <cafuego> freddy: You don't want to install it with the installer script.
[03:44] <adwait> its just shows connecting to archives.ubuntu.com and gets stuck at 0%....synaptic works sometimes, other times its the same with it
[03:44] <freddy> yes i want lol
[03:44] <cwillu> with apt/deb/dpkg/synaptic, everything happens automagically
[03:44] <freddy> well i already did
[03:44] <cafuego> freddy: Well, wasn't that clever.
[03:45] <whiprush> adwait: try a mirror instead, like us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <nickrud_> adwait sounds like a network problem
[03:45] <freddy> :(
[03:45] <freddy> i just want to know if there is a place
[03:45] <moparfan90> whats kubuntu???
[03:45] <freddy> but ok
[03:45] <adwait> nickrud_:which port does apt-get use? which protocol?
[03:45] <biovore> intresstingly enough, UT2k4 run really fucking fast with freebsd+nvidia+Xfree86
[03:45] <cafuego> freddy: Now you have files on the system that dpkgsynaptic don't know about
[03:45] <biovore> 200FPS + on my box
[03:45] <cwillu> freddy, there is
[03:45] <adwait> whiprush: ill try it...
[03:45] <freddy> oh thats what i want to know
[03:45] <nickrud_> adwait it uses ftp or http, it's defined in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <cafuego> freddy: /usr/local
[03:45] <cwillu> the debian standard standardizes most of it... best bet is to look it up on the web
[03:46] <moparfan90> whats kubuntu???
[03:46] <freddy> /usr/local is a good place
[03:46] <cafuego> freddy: But if there is a PREPCKAGED version, you OF COURSE use that instead.
[03:46] <nickrud_> whiprush is right, try another mirror.
[03:46] <ubuntu__> Is there any way to eject the cd during a live cd session?
[03:46] <biovore> kubuntu is ubuntu + kde
[03:46] <freddy> moparfan90, ubuntu with kde
[03:46] <cwillu> freddy:  but the whole point of the aformentioned standard is that you don't even have to do it by hand, or script
[03:46] <adwait> ok....nickrud_, then it can't really be network thing because http and ftp work fine everywhere else........so it can't have anything to do with my router firewall
[03:46] <moparfan90> whats kde?
[03:46] <cwillu> the prepackaged versions will end up with all the files and menus in the right places
[03:46] <freddy> cwillu, awesome
[03:46] <biovore> www.kde.org
[03:46] <freddy> cafuego, i got it thanks man
[03:46] <I-IIEars> moparfan - kubuntu = KDE desktop you can add it to ubuntu if you like without a reinstall using synaptic
[03:46] <nickrud_> adwait no, the network problem is probably the mirror you are trying to get from.
[03:46] <biovore> desktop manager, very eye candy like
[03:46] <freddy> but the palce is /usr/local
[03:47] <nickrud_> adwait what general geographic region are you in?
[03:47] <moparfan90> oooo
[03:47] <I-IIEars> moparfan - it's a little more like windows
[03:47] <adwait> nickrud_:well......when i try to go to archives.ubuntu.com thru the browser, i can open the site fine
[03:47] <moparfan90> o
[03:47] <biovore> apt-get install kde ... done :-)
[03:47] <adwait> nickrud_: asia.........i am in India
[03:48] <I-IIEars> adwait - Wow! the internet is awesome. - grin
[03:48] <biovore> lol
[03:48] <freddy> awesome...acrobat reader have the same version for windows mac and linux
[03:48] <freddy> thats nice
[03:48] <biovore> yup..
[03:48] <adwait> I-IIEarsL why? :S
[03:49] <adwait> ooh.....ok...cuz u hvnt probably met anyone from india.....:)
[03:49] <biovore> he may have not..
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> freddy: there are a lot of better pdf readers for linux than adobe acrobat
[03:49] <moparfan90> whats better gnome of kde?
[03:49] <biovore> that a oppion
[03:49] <I-IIEars> adwait - I can talk with people never posible otherwise. - chatted with a syrian a few weeks ago.
[03:49] <biovore> depends
[03:49] <juju> kde
[03:49] <freddy> kde my butt
[03:49] <freddy> :P
[03:50] <biovore> lol
[03:50] <biovore> see what I mean
[03:50] <adwait> hehe
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: don't ask "better" questions
[03:50] <juju> oh come on
[03:50] <moparfan90> ok
[03:50] <biovore> I talk with people around the world all the time..
[03:50] <nickrud_> adwait does aptitude update get an update in a reasonable time?
[03:50] <moparfan90> boss
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: try them both and see what you think
[03:50] <biovore> <-- HAM
[03:50] <moparfan90> how
[03:50] <adwait> ok......now i added the us.archive.ubuntu.com resource......now it wont let it me update the repo
[03:50] <nickrud_> adwait sudo aptitude update
[03:50] <adwait> apt-get update won't work......says :cant get lock........"
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-dekstop
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> *desktop
[03:50] <biovore> you root adwait?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> and then switch sessions at gdm
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> you can have them both
[03:51] <moparfan90> i use sypatic
[03:51] <nickrud_> adwait do you have synaptic open?
[03:51] <adwait> biovore: yes
[03:51] <adwait> nickrud_ no....
[03:51] <moparfan90> no
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: same difference
[03:51] <biovore> aptitude?
[03:51] <adwait> nope.
[03:51] <nickrud_> adwait make sure you have no apt-get, aptitude or synaptic sessions open
[03:51] <biovore> hung apt running?
[03:51] <juju> viva kde
[03:52] <moparfan90> will that mess up whats there already
[03:52] <moparfan90> ??
[03:52] <adwait> nickrud_check
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: no
[03:52] <nickrud_> adwait if you are absolutely sure of that, then, what are the dpkg and aptitude lock files? (I can't remember off hand)
[03:52] <adwait>  Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:52] <moparfan90> how do i have both?
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: both ubuntu and kubuntu can happily coexist.  You can get xfce4 too while you're at it
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: it just installs both, and then you can switch which one you want to use by clicking on Sessions when you log in
[03:53] <moparfan90> whats xfce4?
[03:53] <freddy> wonder if cedega is worthy buying
[03:53] <adwait> nickrud_: no idea......
[03:53] <nickrud_> adwait does ls /var/lib/apt/lists/lock exist?
[03:53] <freddy> wonder if cedega is worthbuying
[03:53] <virtuald> does anyone know of a music player for the console that supports mp3, ogg vorbis, flac, mod, xm, s3m and it? or at least 2 of them.
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: another window manager, like kde or gnome
[03:53] <biovore> I had it for a bit..
[03:53] <moparfan90> o
[03:53] <biovore> depends..
[03:53] <adwait> nickrud_: it does
[03:53] <moparfan90> i like gnome so.. il stay
[03:53] <nickrud_> adwait then, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/locks
[03:53] <nickrud_> adwait then, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[03:53] <freddy> anyone uses cedega?
[03:54] <freddy> i wonder if its worth buying it
[03:54] <I-IIEars> moparfan90 - you will need to choose your default sound server and display manager tho after you can boot to any style desk you like.
[03:54] <freddy> dont they have like a trial or something?
[03:54] <freddy> hrmm...gonna check the site
[03:54] <juju> how to reconfigure the resolution display with a shell
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> juju: edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <adwait> nickrud_: ok...tht worked.......but i am still stuck at 0%
[03:54] <adwait> :p
[03:54] <biovore> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <juju> ok
[03:55] <nickrud_> adwait then, most likely the mirror you are using is not responding, try another
[03:55] <Luakagon> I need help connecting my ubuntu laptop to the internet with a dialup connection
[03:55] <I-IIEars> juju - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. - enter your pci bus settings exactly as you see them add an extra zero if needed.
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> juju: there should be several lines that start with the word "Modes".  You can add other resolutions as strings on here.  You will have to kill X for these to take effect, and it will usually use the largest resolution your monitor is happy with
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> juju: or lister to I-IIEars, that's probably an easier method
[03:55] <BockBilbo> is there any goo download manager for gnome?
[03:56] <tiglionabbit> goo?
[03:56] <adwait> nickrud_ well.....i can visit security.ubuntu.com thru the browser......so....:S
[03:56] <I-IIEars> tiglionabitt - six of one - a half dozen of the other they are about the same difficulty.
[03:57] <nickrud_> adwait yeah, I kinda passed over your mention of getting to archive with the web browser :)
[03:57] <adwait> nickrud_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/410
[03:58] <I-IIEars> juju - How is it going so far?
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> say, I-IIEars, what behavior does running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and hitting escape at every message box cause?
[03:58] <moparfan90> bye every one
[03:58] <nickrud_> adwait the 1.0.0.0 addresses throws me.
[03:59] <tiglionabbit> does it modify anything while you are configuring it, or write things afterward?
[03:59] <Lokadin> hello,
[03:59] <adwait> nickrud_: hmm.....yeah....but tht should be coming from my DNS server right?
[03:59] <I-IIEars> tiglionabbit - (shrug> dunno - it can't be to bad haven't been iradiated. - lol
[03:59] <adwait> nickrud_: ,aybe i should add the ip address directly to repos?
[03:59] <nickrud_> adwait yes, and, I have a rule that I don't know shit about networking, except to say that can't be right :)
[04:00] <I-IIEars> tiglionabbit - it asks for confirmation to write a config file
[04:00] <juju> d
[04:00] <adwait> hehe...
[04:00] <Lokadin> I have a problem with my samba if i type smb://igor@laptop/My Documents it tell me that it can not display all the files and displays none, but if i put the IP address of the laptop then it shows up fine after asking me the password
[04:00] <Lokadin> does anyone know what might be the problem?
[04:00] <adwait> well anybody eles tigllionbit? is it ok if i directly add ip addresses to the repos list?
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> say guys
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> there are a lot of programs that, when I run them from terminal, blurt out about 18 lines of this: http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> oops
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> I mean this
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> /usr/share/themes/expose/gtk-2.0/icons/iconrc:5: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "gnome-stock-gnome-run.png"
[04:01] <juju> etc/X11/xorg.conf is enty
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> =P two ways to paste in linux, always get em confused
[04:01] <Lokadin> does anyone here use samba/
[04:01] <Lokadin> ?
[04:01] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit do you have expose as your theme?
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: no
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: but there are a crapload of programs that complain about missing pixmaps
[04:02] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit heh, then, it's your fun ;)
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> what?
[04:02] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit I've fought and loved themes for a while
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu should add a theme-editor or something.  How do I edit themes anyway?
[04:03] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit for fun, I'd try doing a locate on gnome-stock-gnome-run.png, then put it into the error path, and see what happens
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> https://site-edit.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=libdvdcss&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterD
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> efinition&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReference&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReferenceFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQ&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterGlossary&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowTo&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowToFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLink&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLinkFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorial&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCent
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> oh I see
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> erTutorialFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialPage&portal_type%3Alist=Image&portal_type%3Alist=Large+Plone+Folder&portal_type%3Alist=Link&portal_type%3Alist=News+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Plone+Site&portal_type%3Alist=TempFolder&portal_type%3Alist=Topic&portal_type%3Alist=Wiki+Page&Creator=&submit=Search
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> ACK
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> what the hell?
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> whoa blue, careful there
[04:04] <regeya> good lord
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> tiglionabbit:  that's a search uri from Ubuntu's wiki site
[04:04] <xeiro> LOL
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> I didn't know it was more than 150 chars long.
[04:04] <xeiro> Good lord indeed
[04:04] <regeya> ever heard of tinyurl?
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> anyway, I just noticed, the theme I currently have applied has icons by that name
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> but anyway it returns an entry to RestrictedFormats, which does not exist.
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> only they're in my .icons folder
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> I'm trying to watch a dvd
[04:05] <moparfan90> can ubunu open .rar   files???
[04:05] <Lokadin> I have a problem with my samba if i type smb://igor@laptop/My Documents it tell me that it can not display all the files and displays none, but if i put the IP address of the laptop then it shows up fine after asking me the password
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> so I need libdvdcss with decryption for dvds
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> and I can't find the repository via google.
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> bluefoxicy: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[04:05] <moparfan90> can ubunu open .rar   files???
[04:05] <moparfan90> can ubunu open .rar   files???
[04:05] <moparfan90> sorry
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> tiglionabbit:  yes thanks.  It was sending me to site-edit.ubuntulinux.org
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: yes, it can.  Get unrar-nonfree
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> which google took me to.
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: install unrar-nonfree
[04:05] <bluefoxicy> I didn't notice.
[04:06] <juju> thank you
[04:06] <tiglionabbit> moparfan90: or some other variant of unrar, whatever it needs.  Any extractor, such as file-roller, should be able to use these once they're installed
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> you know, one thing I like about linux is, some programs magically work in ways they didn't before after you install certain things.  It's great
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> so much sharing
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> saves me disk space too
[04:08] <freddy> brb
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> so anyway, uh, what is the proper way to install my icon theme, so that programs don't complain and crap
[04:09] <nickrud_> ~/.icons is supposed to work, it the icon theme is made correctly
[04:09] <tiglionabbit> =\
[04:09] <nickrud_> iirc, /usr/local/share/icons works too
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> /usr/share/themes/expose/gtk-2.0/icons/iconrc
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> why's it always doing that
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> unable to locate image file in pixmap path
[04:10] <nickrud_> I'd say a bad icon theme
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> what's the pixmap path?
[04:10] <bryan> evening all, any one have experience with modem issues?
[04:11] <Luakagon> I cant find my modem but its listed in lspci help please
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> say, how do I edit icon themes, you know, mix and match, and have it apply a certain icon to every reference to an application, and such things
[04:11] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit I'd look for more info on icon themes on art.gnome.org, I think there's a howto or something there
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> Luakagon: is it listed in network-admin ?
[04:12] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit lol, I would love to put together a custom icon theme
[04:13] <nickrud_> I truly wish I never had to sleep.
[04:13] <adwait> nickrud_: lol
[04:13] <adwait> bryan: like what?
[04:14] <bryan> adwait: ive run pppconfig but still cant get an internet connection
[04:15] <speel> berkeley college was the college that created bsd correct?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> you know, what I'd really like is a theme that actually puts icons on the KDE programs too, instead of making them those ugly 'blank window with a blue titlebar' icons...
[04:15] <speel> ?
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> is there a way to put a set of KDE icons into a set of gnome icons?
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> I suppose I could just open the tar.gz and shove them in there...
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> and then install it
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> is there any way to make it apply icons to all the un-iconed KDE programs that isn't a pain in the ass?
[04:18] <freddy> ok this is bizarre...i can see my windows network...on my main computer...and on my laptop....but i cant get the laptop to see the main computer and they are both ubuntu =/
[04:19] <user00265> is there other archive server other than the two that archive.ubuntu.com point to? those things are like a slug...
[04:20] <spring> ??
[04:21] <spring> how can i setup my resolution of the screen?
[04:21] <spring> now my screen is 640*480,oop!
[04:21] <moparfan90> system -> pre. -> screen res.
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> freddy: is anything shared on the main computer?
[04:22] <nickrud_> supposely freedesktop.org is creating/has created a standard for icons, and, i think, gnome 2.12 will use it
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> cool
[04:22] <spring> it can't ,there just one choice 640*480
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> wow, things are getting better yay
[04:22] <moparfan90> oo
[04:22] <spring> my display card is 865G
[04:23] <nickrud_> well, just more things to understand, just, this iteration should be more understandable :)
[04:23] <moparfan90> spring: then intall your graphics card then try it
[04:23] <freddy> how the hell do i go about sharing files with my laptop and my desktop? =/
[04:24] <bryan> spring: is it an lcd screen by any chance?
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> spring: go edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <spring> yes ,a LCD 15"
[04:24] <nickrud_> freddy, if noone answers, ask again, will you, I'm just about to get a laptop :)
[04:24] <freddy> nickrud_, lol
[04:24] <cvac> what is the min amount of memory I would need to install ubuntu
[04:24] <BockBilbo> bye
[04:25] <bryan> spring: the trick i figured out after many hours (and a good bit of help here) was to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and be sure to specify "16" when you get to a part about screen depth...
[04:25] <bryan> worked for me
[04:26] <krod> hello, why is apt-get giving me this error:
[04:27] <adwait> krod:......which error
[04:27] <macintoshr> im setting up a channel at the moment called ipizza for users of alternative operating systems
[04:27] <macintoshr> i.e. not Microsoft windows
[04:27] <krod> Package nmap is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:27] <krod> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:27] <krod> is only available from another source
[04:27] <krod> E: Package nmap has no installation candidate
[04:27] <macintoshr> dont have many users so far...
[04:27] <macintoshr> its #ipizza on irc.oz.org
[04:27] <krod> macintoshr, stop spamming :P
[04:27] <adwait> krod: right........when i get tht error i start looking for websites to download the file i want :)
[04:27] <macintoshr> ok
[04:28] <krod> adwait, it worked on my laptop, but not here on my desktop
[04:28] <krod> and the sources.list are the same
[04:28] <adwait> dunno the cause of tht error thoughh.it probably means that the software is not there in the repostories, but it is reffered to as a dependencie by some other software
[04:28] <adwait> krod: hmm.......no idea.....
[04:28] <adwait> anyone else have an idea
[04:28] <adwait> ?
[04:29] <bryan> is there a way to force winmodem to work in ubuntu...
[04:29] <freddy> but i dont get it
[04:30] <freddy> do i need samba to share files between ubuntu and ubuntu? O_o
[04:30] <freddy> thats......odd
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> you can use NFS
[04:30] <freddy> yes but that includes an installation too
[04:30] <freddy> hehe
[04:30] <freddy> i thought they understood themself by default
[04:32] <freddy> and how about setting up NFS?
[04:32] <freddy> need for speed lol
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> Network File System
[04:32] <adwait> !HeyThere
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> search on the wiki
[04:32] <ubotu> adwait: I haven't a clue
[04:32] <adwait> hey when everyone recommended linewire to me for p2p.......it was www.limewire.com right?
[04:33] <moparfan90> how do you install limewire on ubuntu
[04:33] <moparfan90> ?
[04:34] <freddy> download the bin?
[04:34] <adwait> moparfan90: either download the rpm and convert using alien........or download the zip file and just unzip it
[04:34] <adwait> does limewire keep opening its website and showing ads? i dunno if i have got the correct limewire or some kind of clone? does limewire have a clone?
[04:35] <adwait> *does limewire have a pro version?
[04:35] <moparfan90> how do you use alien???
[04:35] <adwait> sudo alien <filename>
[04:36] <adwait> it can convert from rpm,slp etc to deb
[04:36] <moparfan90> how??
[04:36] <adwait> after tht u can use dpkg to install the software
[04:36] <moparfan90> how do u use it?
[04:36] <adwait> sudo dpkg -i <filename.deb>
[04:37] <adwait> but alien doesnt always to a good job..........so its to be used only if u hv no option
[04:37] <kdp> theres this really great command line program that gives little witty "What happened today in History" type things...what is it called and can i get the source code?
[04:37] <adwait> in case of limewire.....u can download the zip file
[04:37] <moparfan90> which one is zip. the windows?
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> kdp: I don't know and yes, though if you want a more comprehensive list, see wikipedia
[04:38] <adwait> morpfan90: no the last one........
[04:38] <kdp> aw but this one isnt online.
[04:38] <adwait> for other OSs
[04:39] <adwait> Limewire = my first adware program in linux :(
[04:39] <kdp> HrdwrBoB: is the source code for all the applications kept somewhere?
[04:39] <thenostradamus> i haven't had any adware with limewire
[04:41] <guatenais> everybody can help me
[04:41] <j_fletcher> I've just reinstalled ubuntu for the 3rd time in 24 hours, nautilus was messing up, and the only thing I> could see was that I was fiddling with apt-get trying to get things (such as python2.4 and python-gnome) to use gdesklets
[04:41] <moparfan90> how do yo install limewire?
[04:41] <j_fletcher> anybody know of a reason?
[04:42] <guatenais> can you help me
[04:42] <j_fletcher> moparfan90: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:42] <j_fletcher> easy guide there
[04:42] <Equinox> Trying to apt-get(after some disk issues) I'm getting E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive..
[04:42] <Equinox> Any way to regenerate these files?
[04:42] <moparfan90> ok
[04:42] <moparfan90> thanks
[04:42] <spring> I change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manully , but my screen is still 640*480?
[04:42] <spring> why?
[04:42] <j_fletcher> you'll need to apt-get sun-j2re1.5 though moparfan90
[04:42] <kdp> oh! now i remember what the command was.  calendar.
[04:43] <guatenais> somebody can help me
[04:43] <moparfan90> ok
[04:43] <j_fletcher> no doubt someone can help me too, it's just an unorthadox hour, guatenais
[04:43] <j_fletcher> well, in Europe anyway
[04:44] <guatenais> yes
[04:44] <guatenais> can you help me fletcher
[04:44] <guatenais> maybe i can help you
[04:44] <j_fletcher> okay
[04:44] <j_fletcher> you read my question
[04:44] <j_fletcher> i'll read yours
[04:45] <j_fletcher> oh wait, you'll have to repeat, yours was before I connected.
[04:45] <spring> I need help about my screen resolution
[04:45] <lucasr|out> hi all
[04:45] <lucasr|out> about livecds
[04:45] <j_fletcher> spring: probably a case of drivers if it only gives low res options
[04:45] <lucasr|out> how do i avoid making non-ascii chars to become trash on ubuntu livecd boot messages?
[04:46] <spring> my board is intel 865GV
[04:46] <lucasr|out> f1, f2, ..., f10
[04:46] <adwait> spring: download latest dirvers/ run sudp dpg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[04:46] <adwait> *dpkg-reconfigure-sserver-xorg
[04:47] <adwait> sudo
[04:47] <spring> i'll try ,thanks
[04:48] <lucasr|out> GmanAFK, ping
[04:51] <Eman_> hi all
[04:52] <adwait> hi Eman_
[04:52] <Eman_> hi adwait
[04:52] <knoppix> is there anyway to resize ext3? QTParted and GParted don't seem to like resizing ext3 =/
[04:52] <j_fletcher> does somebody have a sources.list that can actually download python 2.4?
[04:53] <adwait> knoppix: resizing is possible only if it is in an LVM i believe
[04:53] <guatenais>  hello
[04:53] <knoppix> what is LVM?
[04:53] <guatenais> hello fletcher
[04:53] <freddy> how can i change the permissions of a directory if its belongs to root? its my share directory to share with the other computers...but the stuff made it for root...well i made it =/
[04:53] <j_fletcher> yes
[04:53] <guatenais>  what happend
[04:53] <adwait> knopppix: Logical Volume Manager..........its a way in which u can keep ur partition flexible, ....
[04:54] <othernoob> how secure is a fresh installed ubuntu?
[04:54] <adwait> otherwise u have to back up data/ delete/ recreate partition/ copy back data
[04:54] <spring> I use the dpkg ,but it quit abnormally
[04:54] <adwait> othernoob: as secure as any other linux distro..........ie: VERY
[04:54] <freddy> *cough*
[04:54] <xterminus> othernoob, it tends to have the latest stuff, so pretty secure
[04:54] <odie5533> How do I use LVM?
[04:55] <adwait> spring: wht error message did u get? are u trying to run dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg?
[04:55] <othernoob> thanks
[04:55] <adwait> odie5533: u hv to make the partions with LVM while installing linux.....or otherwise in general while partioning ur disk
[04:55] <spring> yes,but it just quit in half
[04:55] <adwait> spring: u cant run tht while xerver is running
[04:56] <odie5533> adwait: Is there anyway around using LVM? And how do I use it to partition disks in general?
[04:56] <adwait> spring: press Ctrl+Alt+Spacebar (I think) to turn xserver off......then run the command sudo dpkg-recinfigure-xserver-xorg
[04:56] <xterminus> odie5533, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[04:56] <spring> oh i know , then i must logout the gnome first. inlevel 3 to run it?
[04:57] <adwait> spring: yeah.......and fail safe terminal will do.......otherwise like i said ctrl+alt+spacebad
[04:57] <freddy> how can i change the permissions on a directory if it belongs to root ? :(
[04:57] <adwait> *spacebar
[04:57] <adwait> spring: to change run level....sudo init 3
[04:57] <adwait> freddy: using sudp
[04:57] <spring> ok , i 'll tyr it again. thanks
[04:57] <adwait> *sudo
[04:57] <Tufek> hi, Is Colony CD 2 new version ubuntu or no?
[04:57] <freddy> yes but i dont know what the command is adwait
[04:57] <geargolem> what is apache?
[04:58] <freddy> web server
[04:58] <geargolem> what does it do?
[04:58] <adwait> freddy: sudo chmod <permission u want to add/revoke> <filename>
[04:58] <adwait> geargolem: u see all those websites on the net? well a web server is used to run those sites.......thats wht apache does
[04:59] <geargolem> what is the benefit of using Apache?
[04:59] <sasquatc4> i keep getting an error when i do apt-get upgrades, it keeps trying to install a kernel version that i already have installed, im just wondering how to keep it from constantly trying to update the kernel to that version
[04:59] <sasquatc4> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:59] <sasquatc4> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10-34.3_i386.deb
[04:59] <sasquatc4> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:59] <j_fletcher> sasquatc4: i get errors too, just like that
[04:59] <adwait> geargolem: well it is the most widely used webserver....if u r asking in terms of performance, i believe it is a multuthreading webserver and u can add mysql/php and all other supprts as u want
[04:59] <sasquatc4> good to know its not just me
[04:59] <sasquatc4> just been pissin me off lately
[05:00] <j_fletcher> but for python, I'm trying to upgrade to 2.4 so that I can actually run stuff
[05:00] <geargolem> adwait, in laymens terms if you please.
[05:00] <speel> geargolem, most companys use it because its reliability,flexiblility,and most importantly its performance
[05:00] <adwait> geargolem: in layman's terms, u don't really need apache unless you want to host a website on your own computer
[05:00] <speel> companies*
[05:01] <geargolem> thanks people
[05:01] <speel> Np
[05:01] <jtan325> what are some icon sets that people use? and where'd you get them from?
[05:01] <j_fletcher> sasquatc4: also, my nautilus has just buggered up, that happened to you?
[05:01] <adwait> np
[05:01] <sasquatc4> naw, it happened once to me, but it fixed it self after reboot
[05:01] <adwait> jtan325: icons come with themes in gnome
[05:01] <speel> jtan325, you can get icons and such at http://www.gnome-look.org/
[05:01] <The_bellman> i compiled gtkpod 0.91 from source, but it can't read mp4s it says "You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library." what does that mean?
[05:01] <sasquatc4> my system keeps thinkin it still has the 386 kernel on here, which i removed a while back, so it keeps adding it to the grub menu as well, which is also a hassle
[05:02] <jtan325> i know i knwo
[05:02] <jtan325> just seeing if there were others that aren't on gnome-look
[05:02] <jtan325> or kde-look
[05:02] <j_fletcher> omg
[05:02] <adwait> sasquatc4: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the part which pertains to the option u dont want...
[05:02] <sasquatc4> yea, ive done that
[05:02] <j_fletcher> anyway at all to undo changes I just made with upgrades that failed?
[05:03] <sasquatc4> but everytime i do the apt upgrade, it adds the 386 back
[05:03] <sasquatc4> so im not sure why it keeps thinking its installed
[05:03] <adwait> sasquatc4: no really very knowledgable abt kernels an such :)
[05:03] <sasquatc4> huh?
[05:04] <randabis> sasquatc4: how did you remove the kernel?
[05:04] <sasquatc4> apt
[05:04] <randabis> sasquatc4: okay..that's weird then
[05:04] <odie5533> Is there any easy way to use LVM?
[05:04] <randabis> usually it will stop adding the entry if you remove it with apt
[05:05] <sasquatc4> yah, hopefully it'll be fixed if i can resolve this wierd apt issue with tryin to install a kernel thats already there
[05:05] <adwait> odie5533: when installing ubuntu it gives u an option to use LVM
[05:05] <odie5533> Anyway to partition my hard disks before installing and use LVM?
[05:05] <adwait> odie5533: while install red hat fc3/fc4 if u choose to let the partiong automatically, it does it using LVM
[05:06] <adwait> odie5533: put a partitioning tool on a bootable floppy / run a partition utillity from the OS which is installed
[05:06] <stisev> Hi all
[05:06] <adwait> hi stisev: wb
[05:06] <stisev> I know this is not #kde or #kubuntu, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.
[05:06] <odie5533> adwait: no os is instaleld
[05:06] <thenostradamus> if ur not using the drive to run ubuntu, u can use qtparted
[05:07] <stisev> in kubuntu [KDE] , I hate how the windows default to their crappy layout, with all of the navigation panels
[05:07] <stisev> how do I force KDE to show windows how I want them?
[05:07] <stisev> (classic look - tree view with no navigation panels, side panels)
[05:07] <adwait> odie5533: well......u can run the run the ubuntu installation upto the partitioning part, write changes and quit..so ur disk is partioned using LVM but ubuntu isnt installed
[05:07] <stisev> do you know how to configure how KDE shows the folders?
[05:07] <odie5533> thenostradamus, how do I use qparted for LVM
[05:07] <stisev> Anyone know?
[05:07] <odie5533> adwait: I have things on my disks though
[05:08] <adwait> odie5533: thts a problem then.....ull hv to backup the data
[05:08] <odie5533> Its too much
[05:08] <odie5533> I no longer have place to back it up
[05:09] <odie5533> And worse, I can't figure out how to burn cds from a live session =/
[05:09] <adwait> odie5533: well theres really no way to do this w/o destructive partioning because...u need to delete partions and then use LVM
[05:09] <thenostradamus> odie5533, /j #lvm
[05:10] <odie5533> Hmm... What is the downside of using ext2?
[05:10] <nalioth> odie5533: no journaling
[05:10] <odie5533> What is journaling?
[05:10] <nalioth> odie5533: error correction
[05:11] <odie5533> Is that good to have?
[05:11] <nickrud> journaling is logging changes for rollback
[05:11] <adwait> riight
[05:11] <odie5533> Hmm
[05:11] <nalioth> odie5533: for every 100 bytes, it writes 1 byte for error corrction (or something like that)
[05:11] <adwait> idue5533: yeah.....in case of an improper shutdown or power failure, u want lose data
[05:11] <adwait> *odie5533
[05:11] <odie5533> Is there any way to burn a cd from a live session?
[05:11] <odie5533> with one cd burner drive
[05:12] <nalioth> odie5533: if you have 2 optical drives
[05:12] <adwait> idue5533: u hv two CD drives?
[05:12] <odie5533> No
[05:12] <adwait> well then no :)
[05:12] <adwait> it needs acces to the writable disk AND the software on the live disk
[05:12] <madmavric> is there a way to set up a virtual drive?
[05:13] <odie5533> What if I promise not to run any new software?
[05:13] <adwait> odie5533: lol..but u do need to access the disk writing software
[05:13] <nalioth> odie5533: it is impossible
[05:13] <nalioth> madmavric: yes, its called "installation"
[05:13] <madmavric> cool
[05:13] <adwait> heh :p
[05:14] <adwait> no but i had heard of sucha thing for windows........but not for linux
[05:14] <odie5533> I am using knoppix atm for partitioning, I thought gparted was malfunctioning, but qtparted doesnt work for what I need either... So now I am going to try knoppix with the tohd=/dev/hda1 to burn cds
[05:14] <odie5533> copies the image to hdd and lets you boot
[05:14] <freddy> is there a way to find for a package? like...hrmm if i want to install acrobat reader from apt-get but i dont know the name of the exact package...do i have an option for like find any package with "acrobat" on it?
[05:14] <odie5533> Thanks for the help, later
[05:15] <thenostradamus> apt-cache search
[05:15] <nalioth> odie5533: you still will have the cd drive locked up (unless knoppix has advanced farther then i realize)
[05:15] <nickrud> odie5533 from the cd you copied to the hdd?
[05:15] <madmavric> nothing showing up in synaptic called installation
[05:15] <odie5533> nickrud, it copies it
[05:15] <odie5533> nalioth, it copies it itself
[05:15] <nalioth> madmavric: what type of virtual disk are you looking for?
[05:16] <adwait> madmavric: lol..........he was being sarcastic
[05:16] <asimismo> Where can I find my grub config? My 5.04 machine boots fine but I expected my grub config in /boot/grub...
[05:16] <madmavric> ehhh im just curios, but a dvd virtual drive would be nice
[05:16] <nalioth> i know how the knoppix tohd=/dev/hda works, but the bootloader is still on the cd rom
[05:16] <nalioth> madmavric: make an iso image, and mount it
[05:16] <madmavric> well if it can be done in windows, it needs to be done in linux
[05:17] <madmavric> ok gotcha
[05:17] <nalioth> madmavric: i thought you were perhaps referring to odies problem
[05:17] <nickrud> madmavric virtural drives are trivial in linux
[05:17] <adwait> madmavric: well the software fooled windows into thinking tht another drive is connected to it........linux is smarter ;)
[05:17] <madmavric> ya i see that now
[05:17] <madmavric> well it is kinda handy
[05:18] <nalioth> did y'all miss me while i was workin?
[05:18] <adwait> madmavric: well actually.......it was meant for those games/softwares tht required their CD in the drive for them to run.....that's redundunt in linux because there are no such softwares
[05:18] <nickrud> of course
[05:18] <thenostradamus> reduntdant
[05:19] <thenostradamus> redundant**
[05:19] <adwait> aah.......i thought there was something wrong with mine..
[05:19] <barneyboo> g'day
[05:19] <barneyboo>   amaroK -  monitoring
[05:19] <adwait> gday barneyboo
[05:19] <barneyboo> allo
[05:20] <freddy> the acrobat version is outdated :(
[05:20] <freddy> on the repositorys
[05:20] <tiglionabbit> freddy: use xpdf fool
[05:20] <adwait> freddy: update it with apt-get :)
[05:20] <nalioth> freddy: stability over bling
[05:20] <adwait> lol
[05:20] <DekaPink> Okay... I'm wondering about Ubuntu and my new digital camera... I plan to install Ubuntu again in the near future, but I don't know anything about linux+digital cameras. :3
[05:20] <nalioth> freddy: on linux, if it works, there's no need to have the 'latest and greatest'
[05:20] <asimismo> I'm sure somebody here knows where Ubuntu keeps its grub.conf or menu.list. Anyone?
[05:20] <DekaPink> Will it just... work? :3
[05:21] <nickrud> DekaPink sometimes ;(
[05:21] <thenostradamus> in /etc/menu.lst
[05:21] <nalioth> DekaPink: i have an iBook running ubuntu, plugged my sisters camera in it, and it fired right up
[05:21] <tiglionabbit> asimismo: /boot/grub
[05:21] <nalioth> asimismo: open a terminal and type "locate grub.conf"
[05:21] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i think its in a nonstandard place
[05:21] <DekaPink> nalioth: That's pretty nifty. :3
[05:21] <thenostradamus> there is no grub.conf
[05:21] <nickrud> DekaPink I've used 6 cameras, all but 2 have worked 'out of the box'
[05:21] <thenostradamus> just menu.lst
[05:21] <madmavric> anybody attempt to install gyach-e in ubuntu?
[05:22] <asimismo> tiglionabbit: Yeah, that's where I looked. Not there.
[05:22] <nalioth> DekaPink: ubuntu aims to "just work" and some things actually meet that criteria
[05:22] <thenostradamus> my fault
[05:22] <thenostradamus> it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:22] <DekaPink> I've got a Sony Cyber-shot DSC-P93
[05:22] <asimismo> I only find samples for menu.lst in /usr/share/doc
[05:22] <asimismo> I don't have a /boot/grub dir at all!
[05:23] <adwait> asimismo: its supppsed to be in /boot/grub for sure
[05:23] <nalioth> asimismo: use the terminal and "locate menu.lst"
[05:23] <thenostradamus> r u using another bootloader?
[05:23] <asimismo> No, don't think so.
[05:23] <adwait> asimismo: u sure u hv grub installed?
[05:23] <nickrud> DekaPink all I can say, is first, plug in the camera and see if something happens on the desktop.
[05:23] <asimismo> Dunno--I didn't customize grub on install.
[05:23] <adwait> asimismo: maybe ur using lilo? or NTLDR?
[05:23] <asimismo> No, grub shows on boot
[05:23] <nalioth> DekaPink: and if that doesnt happen, open a camera friendly app
[05:23] <adwait> asimismo: hmm
[05:24] <DekaPink> nickrud: I'll keep that in mind... I'm on WinXP right now, but I want to get back on Ubuntu ASAP. :) Thanks for your help, guys. :D
[05:24] <nalioth> adwait: NTLDR are you nutz?!!
[05:24] <adwait> naolioth: i hvnt used win xp......but isnt tht its boot loader?
[05:24] <asimismo> I did some convoluted partitioning and I'm trying to set up evms. Install went fine but now I can't customize my Grub config!
[05:24] <nickrud> DekaPink otherwise, google for gphoto and your camera
[05:25] <nalioth> adwait: yes, but i've NEVER seen it start linux
[05:25] <nalioth> asimismo: open a terminal and type "locate menu.lst"
[05:25] <adwait> nalioth: well.....i think i remember walking a friend thru editing the boot.ini file so tht it gives an option of starting grub
[05:25] <freddy> what was the program to add a menu entry on gnome?
[05:25] <freddy> gsem, sem?
[05:25] <freddy> something like that
[05:25] <asimismo> nalioth: Did that above--only found samples in /usr/doc
[05:25] <nalioth> adwait: i stay away from anything windows
[05:25] <nickrud> adwait smeg
[05:26] <adwait> lol
[05:26] <asimismo> Uh, /usr/share/doc, that is
[05:26] <freddy> that one!
[05:26] <adwait> nickrud: smeg?
[05:26] <freddy> smeg
[05:26] <adwait> ooh.....ok tht was for him
[05:26] <nickrud> yeah, the guy does have a sense of humor
[05:26] <thenostradamus> asimismo, cp /usr/share/doc/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <nalioth> asimismo: well, this is indeed a mystery
[05:26] <freddy> oh not in apt-get :(
[05:26] <asimismo> thenostradamus: Yeah, thought about doing that. Wasn't sure what would happen...
[05:27] <freddy> how do i go about installing a .deb package?
[05:27] <DekaPink> Folks in here are always so helpful... Thanks all. :D
[05:27] <asimismo> nalioth: Glad I'm not the only one who things so!
[05:27] <thenostradamus> should work
[05:27] <nalioth> freddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[05:29] <freddy> ok, i have another question..how do i go on installing a .deb package?
[05:29] <adwait> asismo: not sure......but looking at some sites where it says amybe u hvnt mounted ur /boot partition (i didnt know tht was possible)
[05:29] <freddy> thanks nalioth
[05:29] <nalioth> freddy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[05:29] <asimismo> adwait: I can see contents in /boot, but there's no grub dir
[05:30] <adwait> k
[05:30] <nalioth> asimismo: did you cp you a copy?
[05:30] <asimismo> nalioth: Yeah, I copied the sample, but it's got a bunch of crap in it. I know what I want in the file, I just wasn't sure where the file was that I wanted to change. I haven't seen that grub can have a default elsewhere...
[05:31] <nickrud> asimismo if grub was installed with dpkg, there must be a /boot/grub directory
[05:32] <asimismo> nickrud: It's not that I don't believe you...
[05:32] <nickrud> huh, I probably didn't read back far enough to see the real problem,
[05:32] <asimismo> I know it should be there--I'm stymied!
[05:32] <jtan325> if i downloaded an icon set, and it has an "index.theme" file, i should be able to install it using gnome-theme-manager?
[05:33] <adwait> jtan325: i dont remember correctly.........but theme manager wants a gz file i think
[05:33] <jtan325> oh....
[05:33] <nickrud> asimismo try apt-get install --reinstall grub
[05:33] <nickrud> asimismo or, that's the first thing i'd do if i had no grub directory
[05:34] <odie5533> nalioth: I am on Knoppix live cd, without the cd ;)
[05:34] <adwait> odie5533: how come?
[05:34] <jtan325> adwait, thanks, that was it
[05:34] <NeoGeo64> how come when i try and play games like tuxracer and zsnes it cant open sound, but i can listen to mp3s and stuff
[05:34] <adwait> jtan325: np
[05:34] <odie5533> adwait: It automatically copies itself to a hard disk on command
[05:35] <odie5533> very nice feature *cough* add too ubuntu *cough*
[05:35] <adwait> odie5533: isnt tht called "installing it to disk"
[05:35] <adwait> ?
[05:35] <odie5533> nope
[05:35] <asimismo> nickrud: There's also a grub-install script...
[05:35] <odie5533> since it doesnt touch the master boot record, or take over a partition/hard disk
[05:35] <adwait> NeoGeo64: maybe u hv configured those games to use the wrong output plugin
[05:35] <odie5533> it just copies it to any open space
[05:36] <adwait> hmm......k
[05:36] <adwait> cool
[05:37] <misfit_toy> how do I see what services are running....or stopped,  or restart them? isn't there a eimple gui for that?
[05:37] <nickrud> asimismo actually, I use lilo as my loader.  reinstalling any package should restore any missing files/directories.
[05:37] <thenostradamus> ps
[05:37] <dualBhelp> hey all i just installed ubuntu to my intire hd then used pt magic to make the partion a bit smaller then installed  and ntfs partion with xp on it to the free space
[05:37] <dualBhelp> how do i get ride off ntloader and reinstall grub?
[05:37] <adwait> dualBhelp: i believe win xp likes to be on the first sector
[05:37] <thenostradamus> uninstall windows
[05:38] <thenostradamus> :-D
[05:38] <adwait> :D
[05:38] <misfit_toy> how do I see what services are running....or stopped,  or restart them? isn't there a eimple gui for that?
[05:38] <thenostradamus> misfit
[05:38] <thenostradamus> open a terminal
[05:38] <adwait> misfit_toy: ps to see all running processes
[05:38] <thenostradamus> and type "ps"
[05:38] <adwait> ths not a gui though
[05:38] <misfit_toy> thenostradamus, I know how to use ps
[05:38] <misfit_toy> thenostradamus, I'm asking if there's a gui
[05:38] <thenostradamus> i don't know of any gui
[05:38] <freddy> jesus acrobat reader is FAST in linux
[05:39] <thenostradamus> try ps -auxt
[05:39] <thenostradamus> that makes it more readable
[05:39] <NeoGeo64> what is the proper output plugin to use
[05:39] <NeoGeo64> so  can get sound in games
[05:39] <nickrud> rcconf of the top of my head, there are some others (mostly ncurses)
[05:39] <NeoGeo64> i*
[05:39] <misfit_toy> FC had 'system-config-services' very nice
[05:39] <adwait> NeoGeo64: umm esd or alsa i guess
[05:39] <dualBhelp> adwait: na u can get a 98 boot disk and go fdisk /mbr and then install grub again i think
[05:39] <dualBhelp> just don't know ho
[05:39] <adwait> misfit_toy: yeah i was just thinking of tht
[05:39] <dualBhelp> w
[05:39] <misfit_toy> adwait, it was great
[05:39] <nalioth> dualBhelp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:40] <misfit_toy> adwait, you could look at all your services, then restart, stop , etc....
[05:40] <adwait> misfit_toy: but i found FC to buggy...hence switched to ubuntu
[05:40] <dualBhelp> nalioth: awsome :D
[05:40] <dualBhelp> thanks
[05:40] <adwait> misfit_toy: right.......well u can edit the startup services in rcconf in ubuntu
[05:40] <misfit_toy> adwait, I love ubuntu, but I am still figuring out the poss...
[05:40] <tatiana> freddy, hey you're still here
[05:40] <adwait> to start stop /etc/init.d/<servicename> <start/stop/whtever>
[05:41] <misfit_toy> adwait, I know that, I"m asking if there is an ubuntu gui for it
[05:41] <tatiana> anyone know a way to edit the gnome menu to add an item or make a launcher & have it assume root privs as it runs your program
[05:41] <misfit_toy> guess not
[05:41] <adwait> misfit_toy: hmm apparently not
[05:41] <adwait> :)
[05:41] <freddy> tatiana, yes ! i just did it with a nice appl!
[05:41] <tatiana> lol
[05:41] <freddy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183
[05:41] <tatiana> freddy, i got the modem worky
[05:41] <tatiana> :)
[05:42] <freddy> get the autopackage
[05:42] <freddy> works aweseom
[05:42] <freddy> tatiana, thank god, i was worried cause i couldnt help you
[05:42] <tatiana> i'm on my own modem i scrounged for this laptop to test
[05:42] <thenostradamus> does anyone use shorewall?
[05:42] <tatiana> well wanna know how to do it
[05:42] <misfit_toy> adwait, for instance, I just installed spamassassin, but I want to make sure the daemon is runnning
[05:42] <tatiana> its so simple its stupid
[05:42] <nickrud> thenostradamus I've used it before, yes
[05:42] <freddy> <----killerwall user
[05:42] <IceDC571> killerwall?
[05:42] <nickrud> I'm lazily using firestarter at the moment
[05:43] <thenostradamus> did u have it configured with ur machine being a gateway to ur local network nickrud?
[05:43] <adwait> misfit_toy: hmm...i guess theres no gui for tht...but u can /etc/init.d/spamassasin status (i thinkk)
[05:43] <freddy> IceDC571, its what we use at our company http://www.killerwall.net/
[05:43] <misfit_toy> adwait, yeah, ok, you pretty much answered my question
[05:43] <misfit_toy> no gui
[05:43] <misfit_toy> damn
[05:43] <misfit_toy> that's lame
[05:43] <tatiana> freddy, do:  wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf (makes a new conf file)
[05:43] <adwait> actually i like the power and fleibility of commandline
[05:43] <IceDC571> lol omg why are so many people using windows in here?
[05:43] <nickrud> thenostradamus I had a few machines to play with a while ago, and, yes I did then. But It was a while ago.
[05:44] <freddy> tatiana, ohhh
[05:44] <tatiana> then after its done making it, edit /etc/wvdial.conf and put in your ISP #, login/pword after removing the semicolons from in front of those lines
[05:44] <thenostradamus> oh, do u by any chance remember how to forward ur ip.........i had it working a while ago
[05:44] <nickrud> thenostradamus but my recollection was that the shorewall site had a woring config for just that\
[05:44] <thenostradamus> yeah
[05:45] <thenostradamus> i can't figure out what i changed though:-/
[05:45] <freddy> tatiana, thats the kinda things you should write on a tutorial and throw it over ubuntuforums
[05:45] <nickrud> thenostradamus, you need some revision control :)
[05:45] <NeoGeo64> how do i change my sound output
[05:46] <IceDC571> happy 4th everyone!!
[05:46] <thenostradamus> hahahhaha
[05:46] <thenostradamus> most definitely
[05:46] <tatiana> ya
[05:46] <NeoGeo64> everytime i start zsnes it says Sound Init Failed
[05:46] <tatiana> maybe i will.
[05:46] <adwait> NeoGeo64: for which software?
[05:46] <freddy> dang...i like this, i would use it just because of the look of the site lol http://www.killerwall.net/
[05:46] <tatiana> heh b/c the forums are useless  on that one.
[05:46] <thenostradamus> there's no ubuntu package though, freddy
[05:47] <NeoGeo64> I am able to listen to music, but I can't listen to flash animations, sound in games like tuxracer or zsnes
[05:47] <freddy> no, its just a script..and the explanation its quite understable thenostradamus
[05:47] <FoamY_is_AwaY> whars tuxracer?
[05:47] <adwait> NeoGeo64: flash animations is a differnet issue althogheter
[05:47] <freddy> actually i know the developer, and he uses ubuntu
[05:47] <freddy> FoamY_is_AwaY, game
[05:47] <FoamY_is_AwaY> can i get it and how?
[05:47] <tatiana> freddy, how big is that Smeg thing
[05:47] <NeoGeo64> why cant i get sound?
[05:47] <freddy> tatiana, really really small
[05:47] <freddy> tatiana, download the autopackage
[05:48] <tatiana> how small
[05:48] <tatiana> less than a meg?
[05:48] <freddy> run it from console..and it will get all the packages for you
[05:48] <freddy> yup
[05:48] <tatiana> and the packages are how big
[05:48] <freddy> the autopackage is 1.5kb
[05:48] <freddy> hehe
[05:48] <NeoGeo64> can anyone help me
[05:48] <nickrud> the best part of using shorewall is that it's in main. Security support trumps most things.
[05:49] <adwait> NeoGeo64: for flash try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41051&highlight=flash+sound+firefox
[05:49] <freddy> i dont know tati, but not more than 600kb
[05:49] <tatiana> ya but how big are the packages it d/ls after
[05:49] <tatiana> ok
[05:49] <tatiana> cuz dialup = the suckage
[05:49] <freddy> gotcha
[05:50] <tatiana> hm
[05:50] <tatiana> i have to rightclick & save as??
[05:50] <freddy> now THIS looks interesting http://www.racer.nl/
[05:50] <freddy> tatiana, yap
[05:51] <tatiana> then what
[05:51] <adwait> hey somebody tell me.......hows is this possible: http://www.theunion.net/?page=dbb
[05:51] <IceDC571> dsl is cheaper than dial up now i dont see why you would still be using it
[05:51] <tatiana> bc in some places its not
[05:51] <tatiana> and some ppl are poor.
[05:52] <daile> hey, I have USB laser printer Lexmark E210, and it's connected directly to my Ubuntu desktop. Everything works fine, except printing is much slower than when I use Windows XP. If anyone knows about that, please help me to speed thing up!
[05:52] <freddy> tatiana,
[05:52] <freddy> right click it
[05:52] <freddy> properties...give it perms to execute
[05:52] <freddy> and then double click it
[05:52] <adwait> tatiana: whr r u
[05:52] <tatiana> ok
[05:52] <freddy> when it asks how to open....tell it to open on a terminal
[05:52] <tatiana> i'm in canda but my friend who needs this stuff is in texas.
[05:53] <tatiana> freddy, k ty
[05:53] <adwait> tatiana: hmm....
[05:53] <tatiana> shrugs she says dsl an cable there is $40/month
[05:54] <nickrud> daile you should go to linuxprinting.org, and search for your printer. It's not perfect, but it often has up to date info about printers, and the proper drivers to use.
[05:54] <daile> thanks nickrud
[05:54] <IceDC571> ouch.. dsl is $15/month here
[05:54] <adwait> tatiana: $40!!!!
[05:54] <kdp> ........where is "here"
[05:54] <kdp> i must move there.
[05:54] <freddy> this is what i hate of linux in some ways....on this game for linux site, it says this    	Instead of just downloading prepared files, also try creating your own cars or tracks with editors like 3D Studio Max (tm) from Discreet.
[05:55] <freddy> =/
[05:55] <IceDC571> sf, california
[05:55] <adwait> tatiana: i am in india.....and my connection 256 kbps costs abt $10 a month
[05:55] <freddy> there is no such thing like 3d Studio Max for linux =/
[05:55] <NeoGeo64> ok i have sound in firefox but i still cant get sound in games!
[05:55] <daile> nickrud: I've searched in that website already, and nothing special about my printer. I think have the proper driver though. It's just not that fast. The weird thing when I share my printer using Ubuntu, and then try to print from a Windows Laptop, it prints really fast!
[05:56] <daile> Dont' know why
[05:56] <tatiana> apparently the only dsl isp there is verizon
[05:56] <IceDC571> hmm... lexmark has some issues with linux is what i heard
[05:56] <tatiana> its a monopoly
[05:56] <adwait> aah
[05:56] <daile> IceDC571: yeah I think so too
[05:56] <kdp> well im in texas and we have alltell.
[05:56] <kdp> well, i dont, but its available.
[05:56] <tatiana> shes in san angelo
[05:57] <IceDC571> hopefully sbc will buy verizon in that area.. that way she'll get good prices for dsl.. fast too
[05:57] <ions> anyone know how I can remotely see a client's desktop?
[05:57] <kdp> mhm that maybe b/c san angelo is kinda small.
[05:57] <thenostradamus> ions, vnc
[05:57] <tatiana> freddy, i'm installing this thing now to see how well it will go on dialup ... heh ty.
[05:57] <IceDC571> ions: freenx too
[05:57] <ions> one of the people I support deleted the taskbar in Gnome and is clueless to get it back
[05:57] <adwait> ions: system>preferences>remote desktop
[05:58] <daile> IceDC571: Lexmark E210 driver is just weird, because they use a special kind of old Samsung GDI driver. When I tried using Fedora, printing is also very slow!
[05:58] <tatiana> IceDC571, ya wel that'd be nice
[05:58] <adwait> after tht on ur pc: applications>internmet>remote desktop
[05:58] <nickrud> daile I have an hp printer that prints incredibly slow under hpoj, and works very nicely under hplip, so, I'm not suprised.
[05:58] <freddy> tatiana, is it downloading the packages?
[05:58] <tatiana> yes its smallish i guess by US standards
[05:58] <tatiana> yes freddy
[05:58] <tatiana> i have 5 hours free so ...
[05:58] <freddy> hotness
[05:58] <IceDC571> i would kill myself if i downloaded packages with dialup there
[05:58] <kdp> maybe not US standards, but certainly texas standards :-)
[05:59] <ions> I don't have applications > internet > remote desktop
[05:59] <daile> nickrud: yeah, it's quite sad though, because whenever I want to print (>100 pages), I have to use a Windows computer and try to print from there using Samba
[05:59] <freddy> cant you use directv or something?
[05:59] <adwait> ions: yeah i realised tht
[05:59] <tatiana> using up a few of em to test this out
[05:59] <adwait> ions: use the command vncviewer <friends ip>
[05:59] <tatiana> well kdp i wouldn't know that
[05:59] <tatiana> hehe
[05:59] <IceDC571> texas has good cell phone reception, you could get broadband speeds by hooking up your cell to the computer internet
[05:59] <IceDC571> but it costs like.. $70/month lol
[05:59] <tatiana> lol
[05:59] <tatiana> shes poor dude
[05:59] <kdp> hahahahhahaha.
[06:00] <adwait> *thinks
[06:00] <tatiana> k now how do i run this smeg thingy
[06:00] <IceDC571> adwait: depends where you live
[06:00] <tatiana> it installed
[06:00] <kdp> smeg...what a bad name.  its so...weird.
[06:00] <tatiana> ya nokidding'
[06:00] <tatiana> considering what it means *yech*
[06:00] <adwait> IceDC571: well i am in india.........and everything they said costs like 1/4th here
[06:01] <freddy> here is $50/month =/
[06:01] <IceDC571> adwait: is everything illegal there? lol
[06:01] <IceDC571> imported and such
[06:01] <adwait> IceDC571: huh?
[06:01] <ions> do I have to open a port for vncviewer to connect?
[06:01] <adwait> IceDC571: how can internet access be imported
[06:01] <adwait> ?
[06:01] <thenostradamus> ions, 5900
[06:01] <daile> kdp: smeg = Simple Menu Editor for Gnome
[06:01] <freddy> LOOL
[06:01] <daile> :)
[06:01] <IceDC571> no i mean dvds and electronics
[06:01] <adwait> ions: system>preferences>remote desktop on ur clients pc opens the port
[06:01] <kdp> daile: yeah, but its still weird.
[06:01] <ions> he deleted that menu
[06:02] <adwait> after tht u connect using vncviewer <ip>:0
[06:02] <tatiana> freddy, how do u run this ;P
[06:02] <kdp> adwait: it may be cheaper, but arent wages lower as well?  thats the whole outsourcing thing.
[06:02] <adwait> IceDC571: no everything is made here...just tht cost of labour/production is much lower here.........remember a thing called outsourcing to bangalore?
[06:02] <daile> kdp: yeah I hate that name too, it's just a bad name for such a good tool
[06:02] <adwait> kdp: yeah i guess.......
[06:02] <freddy> tatiana, Applications/SystemTools/
[06:03] <freddy> Smeg Menu Editor
[06:03] <tatiana> oh duh
[06:03] <tatiana> i missed it
[06:03] <tatiana> k ty :)
[06:03] <freddy> ;)
[06:03] <tatiana> now to figure out how to edit a menu item to run as root
[06:03] <adwait> ions: deleted wht menu? the system menu
[06:03] <adwait> ?
[06:04] <freddy> i dont know how ppl have problems with ipods?
[06:04] <freddy> i just plugged mine..and it worked
[06:04] <freddy> lol
[06:05] <tatiana> k freddy ?
[06:05] <freddy> k what tati?
[06:05] <freddy> :)
[06:05] <tatiana> so far this just edits things like i was doing before, i don't see how to get an entry to run as root
[06:05] <tatiana> wvdial needs to be run as root after all
[06:05] <IceDC571> adwait: can i bring my snowboard to india?
[06:05] <kdp> ooooooooooo snow.
[06:06] <tatiana> snow?
[06:06] <daile> kdp: what's up LOL?
[06:06] <kdp> well i assume if Ice is gonna bring his snowboard theres snow.
[06:07] <tatiana> freddy wake up!
[06:07] <tatiana> :)
[06:07] <adwait> IceDC571: well not where i live.....but yeah.in some plaes
[06:07] <adwait> *places
[06:07] <adwait> :D
[06:07] <SirGrok> Is anyone having a problem with the Ubuntu apt-get repositories going screechingly slow?
[06:07] <ksmurf> hello all
[06:07] <daile> how do we call someone who uses Ubuntu?
[06:07] <daile> Ubuntist?
[06:07] <SirGrok> I am dlownloading at 3000 b/s
[06:07] <kdp> Ubuntunite
[06:07] <daile> haha
[06:07] <ksmurf> Sir 500-800 kBs if that's slow
[06:07] <adwait> SIRGrok: try using mirrors
[06:07] <thenostradamus> ubuntuer
[06:07] <IceDC571> ubuntunian?
[06:07] <thenostradamus> lmao
[06:07] <crimsun> daile: a Ubuntu user
[06:08] <daile> Ubuntunian sounds cool
[06:08] <IceDC571> yeah, shes an ubunter lol
[06:08] <SirGrok> adwait, I am afriad that I don't know of what you speak.
[06:08] <daile> crimsun: Ubuntu user doesn't sound cool
[06:08] <adwait> daile: u call him a "cool dude" :d
[06:08] <adwait> :d
[06:08] <tatiana> anyone know how to make a launcher or menu entry work as root or run the program it refers to as Root
[06:08] <daile> "cool dude" + Ubuntu --> Ubuncool
[06:08] <ksmurf> Is there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup?
[06:09] <adwait> !repostries
[06:09] <ubotu> adwait: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:09] <ksmurf> tat in the command use sudo .....
[06:09] <SQFreak> freddy: USB or IEEE1394 iPod?
[06:09] <adwait> !repostories
[06:09] <ubotu> adwait: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:09] <tatiana> ya but then it will pop up a password box?
[06:10] <FoamY_is_wiccan> anyone here broadcast with shoutcast?
[06:10] <freddy> SQFreak, USB ipod
[06:10] <kdp> tatiana: yeah, i dont think you can avoid that.
[06:10] <tatiana> k
[06:10] <SirGrok> adwait,  how do I use alternative mirros?
[06:11] <adwait> SirGrok: Open up synaptic
[06:11] <SirGrok> Done
[06:11] <tatiana> ooooo no it didn't this time but ty :)
[06:11] <freddy> tatiana, here, whats up
[06:11] <ksmurf> the only way u could avoid it is run as root... which should not be an option
[06:11] <ksmurf> Is there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup?
[06:11] <tatiana> k i'm going
[06:11] <kdp> tatiana: it saves it for a while.
[06:11] <adwait> settings>repostories
[06:11] <tatiana> its ok kdp answered me freddy
[06:11] <kdp> so you dont put the pword in every time.
[06:11] <freddy> tatiana, :(
[06:11] <freddy> now you love him and not me
[06:11] <freddy> FINE
[06:11] <ksmurf> other that in the sessions box
[06:11] <SirGrok> got it.
[06:11] <tatiana> LOL
[06:11] <kdp> hahahahaha.
[06:12] <IceDC571> Welcome to Fedora. Home of dependency hell.
[06:12] <SQFreak> freddy: i'd imagine that's a little easier than a 1394 one (which is what I have...but only sync in Windows so I don't know how it goes in Ubuntu. Ubuntu detects an OHCI IEEE1394 controller, so I can't imagine it'd be that hard)
[06:12] <tatiana> kisses kdp :P
[06:12] <adwait> SirGrok: now edit on of the reposotories and instead of archive.ubuntu.com make it us.archive.ubuntu.com or something like tht.....google for mirrors....
[06:12] <tatiana> hehe
[06:12] <kdp> Ice: oh my yes.
[06:12] <tatiana> bbl off the dialup heh
[06:12] <tatiana> ty all
[06:12] <kdp> BYE!  call me.
[06:12] <kdp> oh too late.
[06:12] <kdp> hahaha
[06:12] <IceDC571> kdp: whats your number?
[06:12] <IceDC571> ohh
[06:12] <freddy> damn it
[06:13] <ksmurf> Is there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup? Anyone?
[06:13] <freddy> no kiss for freddy
[06:13] <freddy> :(
[06:13] <SQFreak> IceDC571: Nay, I vote for Mandrake (now Mandriva) for dependency hell. I have to say, though, apt-get's error messages are often useless ("blah package is required but is not going to be installed").
[06:13] <kdp> ive always wondered why i need a mail server for evolution tow rok.
[06:13] <daile> tatiana: are you a girl?
[06:13] <freddy> SQFreak, damn im sorry man
[06:13] <IceDC571> what would you vote for too user friendly?
[06:13] <IceDC571> i say Linspire
[06:13] <SQFreak> freddy: sorry about what?
[06:13] <kdp> i think tatiana is gone.  but i sure hope so.
[06:13] <freddy> the ipod problem
[06:14] <adwait> lol
[06:14] <freddy> http://www.deviantart.com/view/20220805/  i just LOVE my desktop
[06:14] <IceDC571> omg fireworks!!
[06:14] <IceDC571> brb
[06:14] <daile> yeah, that's quite scary though, I though guys want to kiss guys
[06:14] <SQFreak> freddy: there's no problem. I can't test it now because I lost my 6-pin to 4-pin 1394 adapter, otherwise i'd test it.
[06:14] <freddy> i did the fix that its in ubuntu forums for the fonts...and they look awesome....
[06:14] <speel> http://www.speel3k.net/art/Screenshot.png i love mine better ;)
[06:14] <freddy> look at the screenshot :D
[06:14] <kdp> fireworks scare my dog.
[06:14] <SQFreak> Speaking of which, anyone know if Best Buy sells 6-pin to 4-pin 1394 adapters?
[06:15] <freddy> SQFreak, ah ok
[06:15] <SQFreak> Or anywhere for that matter.
[06:15] <freddy> it worked just fine here
[06:15] <SQFreak> adwait: which is probably why Best Buy wouldn't sell it.
[06:15] <IceDC571> SQFreak: turn on the fun! Breast Buy!
[06:15] <freddy> speel, do you know of the fix for the fonts?
[06:15] <adwait> :D
[06:15] <speel> nah , What fix?
[06:16] <dennis_> Hello Everyone
[06:16] <dennis_> I have a quick question :D
[06:16] <IceDC571> Hello Dennis
[06:16] <ksmurf> Is there another way (shell script or something) of issuing commds to gnome on startup? Anyone?
[06:16] <IceDC571> i've come here to steal your cat.
[06:16] <dennis_> Mostly everyone here uses gnome right?
[06:16] <ksmurf> hey Dennis
[06:16] <dr_willis> ksmurf,  to do what exatly?
[06:16] <adwait> dennis: yeah..
[06:16] <thenostradamus> SQFreak: try Fry's
[06:16] <dennis_> you all know of the weather widget right?
[06:16] <adwait> yeah.
[06:16] <adwait> ..
[06:16] <SQFreak> thenostradamus: the nearest Fry's is Atlanta. :)
[06:16] <thenostradamus> damn
[06:16] <thenostradamus> sorry
[06:16] <IceDC571> SQFreak: ahh, east coast eh?
[06:17] <SQFreak> IceDC571: North Carolina.
[06:17] <SQFreak> And the nearest CompUSA is a 45 minute drive away.
[06:17] <dennis_> What happens if my area isn't listen on it? Like i put the closed city and it says 66 degrees but when I go on weather .com is says my current town is like 59
[06:17] <dennis_> Is there any way of adding zip codes or anything?
[06:17] <SQFreak> But the store that runs compoutlet.com is a five-minute drive away, so I'm hoping they have it and it's just not on the Website.
[06:17] <adwait> dennis_: 1)move 2)wait for ur area to be added
[06:17] <dennis_> lol
[06:17] <kdp> dennis_: if you use firefox, you can use forecast fox...but youll have to load a browser each time
[06:17] <dennis_> Hmm
[06:18] <FoamY_is_wiccan> whats the comand to install vmware?
[06:18] <dennis_> Okay
[06:18] <kdp> and forecast fox has a zip code enterer thingy.
[06:18] <crimsun> SQFreak: not close to an intrex or stayonline?
[06:18] <dennis_> Is there any other gnome weather things?
[06:18] <SirGrok> adwait, I have found this, but I don't know how to add it to the apt server http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[06:18] <dennis_> Where I can add a zipcode
[06:18] <thenostradamus> Foamy: perl vmware-config.pl
[06:18] <thenostradamus> i think
[06:18] <freddy> speel, the fix on ubuntuforums
[06:18] <FoamY_is_wiccan> thanx
[06:18] <freddy> to make them look crisp
[06:18] <freddy> gonna get the link
[06:19] <IceDC571> to make them look like M$ fonts lol
[06:19] <Miks> what can i do when i get an advise like "old style mounting not supported" ?
[06:19] <dr_willis> ksmurf,  to start firefox. you can save the gnome session. for the mouse issue.. you may want to edt the system wide xsession or the gnome.desktop
[06:19] <speel> freddy, do you know what catagory?
[06:19] <SQFreak> crimsun: Intrex is the same distance as Best Buy. I can try there. StayOnline is in Raleigh; I'm in Winston-Salem (2hr drive).
[06:19] <kdp> actually when i zoomed in on windows fonts they looked pretty bad.
[06:19] <IceDC571> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[06:19] <adwait> SirGrok: like i said synaptic, Settings>respostories and then select add
[06:19] <crimsun> SQFreak: drive east to Greensboro and go to Ahead Computers on Battleground Avenue.
[06:19] <adwait> then edit it and change the url
[06:19] <freddy> speel, tips and tricks
[06:20] <IceDC571> speel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[06:20] <speel> ah ty
[06:20] <crimsun> SQFreak: actually there's an Intrex in Greensboro, too
[06:20] <FoamY_is_wiccan> thanx
[06:20] <SQFreak> crimsun: Know anything in Charlotte? I'm moving down to Mecklenburg County for my job next week.
[06:21] <dr_willis> ksmurf,  the /etc/X11/xsession perhaps.. i forget. ;p
[06:21] <crimsun> SQFreak: charlotte has quite a few of the sort, though I'm not as familiar as I am with G'boro, since I was born in G'boro.
[06:21] <dennis_> Guys
[06:21] <adwait> SirGrok: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:21] <speel> ah way to much work
[06:21] <arentie> hey everyone, I just got Vpnc working!  Yahoo!!!
[06:21] <dennis_> How do I update firefox...when synaptic doesn't say it needs to be updated
[06:21] <dennis_> but mozilla.org does
[06:21] <freddy> speel, LOL
[06:21] <adwait> dennis_
[06:22] <freddy> hey someone show me screenshots of yours
[06:22] <SQFreak> crimsun: Ah. Where are you living now?
[06:22] <adwait> dennis_: type about config in mozilla address bar
[06:22] <mig`> 'evening
[06:22] <crimsun> SQFreak: Rochester, MN.
[06:22] <dr_willis> dennis_, thats a version issue.
[06:22] <dennis_> ???
[06:22] <adwait> dennis_: search for a key called general.useragnet.vendorsub and change its value to 1.0.4
[06:22] <arentie> dennis_, do a about:config in the addres bar of firefox and follow what needs to be done searching ubuntu's support and/or wiki
[06:22] <mig`> oh, btw crimsun i got it working, i had to install ubuntu in vmware in order to get mkinitrd to work from there
[06:22] <adwait> dennis_: sime
[06:22] <dennis_> k
[06:22] <crimsun> mig`: excellent
[06:22] <mig`> crimsun, the livecd uses the 386 kernel, ubuntu installs the 686 kernel
[06:22] <freddy> crimsun, heya man! thanks for all the help!
[06:22] <crimsun> freddy: np
[06:23] <mig`> which is why mkinitrd couldn't find the right kernel folder when making the initrd file
[06:23] <mig`> thinking of writing a wiki article on it, haven't figured out how to go around the wiki yet, but thats for later
[06:23] <crimsun> mig`: it has installed the -386 in my experience
[06:23] <mig`> crimsun, i meant in my particular case
[06:23] <SQFreak> crimsun: Okay, so definitively not in the area.
[06:23] <FoamY_is_wiccan> u3m00n3
[06:23] <arentie> will vmware allow one to install Windows XP?
[06:24] <thenostradamus> arentie, yes
[06:24] <mig`> right now i'm trying to figure out how to install a .deb (or .rpm) package
[06:24] <mig`> any ideas?
[06:24] <arentie> is vmware free for ubuntu?
[06:24] <ksmurf> arentie Yes
[06:24] <ksmurf> arentie No
[06:24] <crimsun> mig`: dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:24] <thenostradamus> lmao @ ksmurf
[06:24] <adwait> mig: for *.deb: sudo dpkh -i <filename>
[06:24] <mig`> also, how can i execute a file from nautils as sudo
[06:24] <freddy> WHAT_!_!_!??
[06:24] <freddy> is vmware free for ubuntu? holy shiat
[06:24] <freddy> gonna call a couple of friends
[06:24] <SQFreak> mig`: for an rpm, sudo alien filename.rpm
[06:24] <freddy> brb
[06:24] <adwait> mig: for rpm.....first sudo alien <filename> and thn whn deb is created use dpkg
[06:25] <arentie> just asking...i heard some good things about vmware
[06:25] <adwait> *mig: dpkg not dpkh
[06:25] <SQFreak> freddy: no, arentie was answering yes to installing XP on VMWare, no to freeness.
[06:25] <arentie> can one install Mac OSX running vmware?
[06:25] <thenostradamus> arentie, yes
[06:25] <thenostradamus> arentie, no
[06:25] <thenostradamus> hahah
[06:25] <mig`> says dpkg command not found
[06:26] <ksmurf> arentie 188 dollars a lic
[06:26] <mig`> (i did 'sudo')
[06:26] <FoamY_is_wiccan> vm ware is kinda cool
[06:26] <adwait> mig`: ?
[06:26] <arentie> ouch
[06:26] <thenostradamus> check vmware.com arentie
[06:26] <kdp> oh look thenostradamus you went and did it again.
[06:26] <SQFreak> how can dpkg be not found?!?
[06:26] <FoamY_is_wiccan> it laggs so hardcore though
[06:26] <freddy> oh shiat...now my friends will kick my ass
[06:26] <adwait> mig`: u sure u spelt it right? dpkg?
[06:26] <mig`> my mistake
[06:26] <mig`> dkpg*
[06:26] <mig`> ok, its installing now
[06:26] <mig`> hmm
[06:26] <arentie> well, i'm sure that Windows runs better in Linux via VMWare
[06:27] <thenostradamus> Foamy, u prolly need more memory
[06:27] <thenostradamus> what guest os r u running?
[06:27] <ksmurf> is there a compatible script to a bat file in ubuntu?
[06:27] <freddy> arentie, for that you just need maconlinux.org
[06:27] <daile> freddy: have a look at my screenshot http://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/~ledt/test/Screenshot.png :P
[06:27] <adwait> ksmurf: ?
[06:27] <FoamY_is_wiccan> yea i need more
[06:27] <crimsun> ksmurf: any executable script file.
[06:27] <kdp> ksmurk: im guessing something like .sh?
[06:27] <FoamY_is_wiccan> but it's really hard when your disabled
[06:27] <adwait> naah.....any text file will do
[06:27] <arentie> freddy, does maconlinux.org require a Mac or a PC?
[06:27] <FoamY_is_wiccan> it makes buying programs harder
[06:28] <adwait> just chmod +x it
[06:28] <mig`> so to run an application from inside nautils (as root)
[06:28] <FoamY_is_wiccan> >.<
[06:28] <kdp> really.
[06:28] <thenostradamus> tru tru
[06:28] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i wish i was normal so i could afford to pay for things like you guys
[06:28] <SQFreak> daile: what IRC client is that?
[06:28] <adwait> mig`: no idea.........dunno if u can do tht
[06:28] <freddy> arentie, requires a ppc
[06:28] <daile> SQFreak: it's Gaim LOL
[06:28] <freddy> daile, NICE!
[06:28] <daile> thnx
[06:28] <daile> :P
[06:28] <mig`> hmm, i see
[06:28] <arentie> freddy, not in about a year though! :)
[06:28] <adwait> ksmurf: umm...was just asking abt ur question....
[06:28] <mig`> i was thinking of something like windows's "Run As..."
[06:29] <freddy> arentie, exactly ;)
[06:29] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i wish i had money and was wealthy or even middle class
[06:29] <freddy> or if you get a mac mini..it will be in a couple of months ;)
[06:29] <FoamY_is_wiccan> then i could pay for all the great software they come out with
[06:29] <daile> SQFreak: I dont think Gaim is perfect for IRC though
[06:29] <FoamY_is_wiccan> cause i really do feel bad about making warez
[06:30] <SQFreak> daile: I use X-Chat.
[06:30] <adwait> ksmurf: like i said.....make any file and write each commanbd on a new line,,,,,,,,and then chmod +x <filename>
[06:30] <adwait> after tht u can execute the script using ./<filename>
[06:30] <daile> SQFreak: yeah it's much better with all more powerful color highlight
[06:30] <IRCMonkey> I have money and I still only pay for software that is extraordinary...you feel bad Foamy? for what, cheating Bill and Melinda out of being able to save one more child? hahahahahaha
[06:31] <SQFreak> I actually use a painful mix between KDE and Gnome apps.
[06:31] <FoamY_is_wiccan> no i feel good cheating bill out his apps
[06:31] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and mandala as well
[06:31] <nickrud> mig`, you can write scripts that can be run from inside nautilus, and they can be wrapped with sudo.
[06:31] <speel> people still pay for software?
[06:31] <FoamY_is_wiccan> but when it comes to linux
[06:31] <mig`> i see
[06:31] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i feel bad making warez
[06:31] <daile> SQFreak: how come it's painful?
[06:31] <FoamY_is_wiccan> because linux is actually.....honist
[06:31] <thenostradamus> don't feel bad
[06:32] <FoamY_is_wiccan> well i do cause linux developers are reall genusus
[06:32] <IceDC571> linux.. honest?
[06:32] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and they deserve the mony they are due
[06:32] <nickrud> mig` for example, I have a vim root right click on a text file in nautilus
[06:32] <FoamY_is_wiccan> unlike m$
[06:32] <IceDC571> i cant believe i actually bought there OS
[06:32] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i actually feel bad about ripping of linux apps that you have to apy for
[06:32] <IceDC571> then i decided to switch to linux right after
[06:33] <SQFreak> daile: because nothing is QUITE perfect. X-Chat looks a little odd, and KDE doesn't want to see Gaim as a real IM client (it's quite insistent on Kopete). And, while I prefer the something-ness of the KDE interface, there's something missing.
[06:33] <FoamY_is_wiccan> m$ stuff i coulden't care less
[06:33] <kdp> too bad it comes with every new computer.
[06:33] <arentie> hey does anyone know how to solve hibernation issues after I successfully configured ndiswrapper?
[06:33] <SQFreak> daile: and kynaptic really sux0rz.
[06:33] <arentie> more specifically, my wlan0
[06:33] <IRCMonkey> it might help if MS could produce a stable and non-privacy invading/memory efficient OS...as it is I feel good everytime I use the software and know I didn't help to make more of the crap.
[06:33] <IceDC571> its not bad that it comes with every new computer
[06:33] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i beleve that every linux programmer should get paid for there work cause there doing it for the people
[06:33] <mig`> hmmm ok
[06:33] <IceDC571> i like being different from everyone else
[06:34] <FoamY_is_wiccan> not like m$ who does it for them selves
[06:34] <mig`> hmm, i have a file that keeps disappearing whenever i right click on it
[06:34] <mig`> i guess nautilus still has its bugs
[06:34] <speel> Lol you guys are funny :P
[06:34] <daile> SQFreak: yeah I had that problem too, man. But I tried to stick with Gnome, although i use Kile a lot for all my Tex typesetting stuffs
[06:34] <kdp> you never know.  some linux developer might REALLY have wanted to see his dvds in colored ascii.
[06:34] <IRCMonkey> i said i'd pay for extraordinary software...I stand by that statment
[06:34] <kdp> and thus did it for himself.
[06:34] <FoamY_is_wiccan> yes i would pay too
[06:35] <adwait> well.......im off for now ppl.....
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> but like i said linux is diffrent
[06:35] <nickrud> well, if I ever become wealthy, I'd put a bit into bounties :)
[06:35] <adwait> bbye
[06:35] <SQFreak> daile: KDE just seems a little smoother to me for some reason...
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> if i ever won the lottery i would donate it to ubuntu
[06:35] <daile> SQFreak: I absolutely agree
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and i swear to that
[06:35] <IRCMonkey> i'm thinking about buying/donating to ubuntu...because its thge first linux that i've had work without hours of time fixing it.
[06:35] <concept10> anyone familiar with dyndns?
[06:35] <daile> SQFreak: it looks much better hehe!
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> ubuntu is the future i think
[06:35] <SQFreak> So, IceDC571's statement about being different from everyone else reminds me of a favor that I'm in the process of doing for a friend and co-worker and need a bit of help on. It's Ubuntu-related. Give me a sec to type it out.
[06:35] <speel> FoamY_is_wiccan, i think ubuntu has enough money thanks to the owner
[06:35] <thenostradamus> concept: yes
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> yea true
[06:35] <arentie> I agree with IRCMonkey...ubuntu is a solid OS
[06:35] <FoamY_is_wiccan> but anymore can't help
[06:36] <FoamY_is_wiccan> most of the money would be for bountys for stuff i'd like to see fixed
[06:36] <speel> FoamY_is_wiccan, you'll just end up sending him to space again LOl
[06:36] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and things that i'd want to see done
[06:36] <freddy> ill spend it all in prostitutes
[06:36] <FoamY_is_wiccan> no
[06:36] <daile> SQFreak, I'm using Xchat now, hehe... I just love apt-get so much!
[06:36] <arentie> Does anyone here have problems with hibernating ?
[06:36] <IRCMonkey> yeah i'd support that...like the documentation lol
[06:36] <thenostradamus> lmao @ freddy
[06:36] <IceDC571> i would donate my money to the gnome foundation
[06:36] <FoamY_is_wiccan> cause it would go to the actuall developers
[06:36] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and not some rich sob
[06:36] <freddy> hahahaha it is true!
[06:37] <freddy> plain and simple
[06:37] <freddy> :)
[06:37] <speel> i would donate my money to my pocket =D
[06:37] <kdp> hahahahahaha.
[06:37] <kdp> i second speel.
[06:37] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i would give the money to people who actually do the work
[06:37] <speel> good :)
[06:37] <freddy> yes
[06:37] <thenostradamus> i would buy a starbucks
[06:37] <freddy> and those are prostitutes
[06:37] <freddy> :)
[06:37] <kdp> HAHAHAHAH
[06:37] <kdp> thenostradamus: across the street from another starbucks?
[06:37] <FoamY_is_wiccan> there are alot of great minds out there that make this software possible
[06:37] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and they need the due credit
[06:38] <FoamY_is_wiccan> even if we take it for granted
[06:38] <SQFreak> I installed Ubuntu on an ancient Compaq DeskPro which was incredibly successful except the X-server seems a little weird. The screen is mis-colored and whenever the pointer is dragged around, it creates a large block of further discoloration and pixelation on the screen. Switching to TTY1 shows lines all mixed up into each other - almost as if the line length changed! I'm not quite sure where to start troubleshooting.
[06:38] <IceDC571> omg why would you buy a starbucks? they're like everywhere
[06:38] <freddy> i would buy a prostitute for each developer...ill get credit
[06:38] <arentie> buy prostitutes to go to One Microsoft Way, Seattle WA and ask for Mr. Steve Ballmer
[06:38] <daile> Oh, does anyone have problem with Enterprise Volume Manager. Sometimes, when I reboot, it's just stuck there for no reason
[06:38] <SQFreak> daile: and?
[06:38] <thenostradamus> y do u think they're everywhere?
[06:38] <jazzman> sup all
[06:38] <thenostradamus> they make $$$$$$
[06:38] <SQFreak> daile: What do you think of it??
[06:38] <daile> it's just perfect
[06:38] <freddy> YES!
[06:38] <FoamY_is_wiccan> steve ballamer can suck my big fat d****
[06:38] <IceDC571> they do make money actually, a lot of 20's in their tips
[06:38] <daile> I can see your text you sent to me in Red color, very easy to recognize
[06:38] <IRCMonkey> i'm still learning but I'd be all for putting in the time to write some decent support docs...like how to config apache or samba etc...the docs on the ubuntu site are an incompetent joke
[06:38] <jazzman> neone from indiana??
[06:39] <FoamY_is_wiccan> and i woud make it so anyone could understand linux
[06:39] <daile> SQFreak, Game doesn't have that nice coloring
[06:39] <ksmurf> alberta
[06:39] <ksmurf> close enough
[06:39] <arentie> send Michael Jackson and Bobo, the pet monkey, to see Billy Gates
[06:39] <daile> SQFreak, I mean Gaim
[06:39] <nickrud> wow, bounties are for needed things, I'd put up money for a accounting system for non-profits.
[06:39] <FoamY_is_wiccan> actually steve isen't even worthy of that
[06:39] <FoamY_is_wiccan> >.<
[06:39] <SQFreak> IRCMonkey: http://ubuntuguide.org is actually pretty good docs, but ubuntulinux.com's are bad I agree
[06:39] <FoamY_is_wiccan> might catch aids or sometin
[06:40] <eno> hi...
[06:40] <IceDC571> i hate photobucket
[06:40] <arentie> Hibernating and the wlan0 doesn't work well together...does anyone know how to resolve?
[06:40] <speel> i think i would buy rich stallman a freggin razor
[06:40] <IRCMonkey> ummm thanks i'll make use of those, this install...if they are good I suck for not finding that earlier
[06:40] <eno> what is about:config?
[06:40] <ksmurf> hey is the order portion of the sessions command like priority ?
[06:40] <FoamY_is_wiccan> as anone ever wonderd what if terrorists blew up microsoft instead of the world trade ceneters
[06:40] <FoamY_is_wiccan> what life would be like?
[06:40] <arentie> eno, type it into your firefox address bar & see
[06:40] <daile>  does anyone have problem with Enterprise Volume Manager. Sometimes, when I reboot, it's just stuck there for no reason!
[06:40] <mgcross> hi all
[06:41] <IceDC571> i want to develop an app for Mac OS X called iSuck
[06:41] <eno> oh thanks!
[06:41] <ksmurf> Foamy .... make me wish
[06:41] <eno> that's smart
[06:41] <ksmurf> lol
[06:41] <mgcross> looking on advice for usb headset to use with Skype...any suggestions?
[06:41] <speel> Lol ms has enough money to buy osama and his alwhatevers
[06:41] <SRL2k5> nesecito ayuda con mi ubuto???????
[06:41] <SQFreak> daile: the biggest problem I have with KDE is not being able to press Ctrl+F4 to close a Firefox tab :)
[06:41] <daile> SQFreak, yeah that's true
[06:41] <freddy> what kinda of a tard game is legostarwars?
[06:41] <eno> thank you, that was great.
[06:41] <freddy> lol
[06:41] <IceDC571> mgcross: what advice do you need?
[06:41] <daile> SQFreak, can you redefine it?
[06:42] <arentie> I think Google should be able to Osama now...
[06:42] <ksmurf> hey is the order portion of the sessions command like priority ?
[06:42] <kdp> i think theres a spanish channel around here somewhere.
[06:42] <thenostradamus> SQFreak, try Ctrl+W
[06:42] <arentie> I think Google should be able to find Osama now
[06:42] <kdp> for SRL2k5
[06:42] <SQFreak> daile: See, I haven't seen where that particular shortcut is defined.
[06:42] <SRL2k5> no entiendo ingles hablen en espaol
[06:42] <SQFreak> thenostradamus: Thanks.
[06:42] <freddy> SRL2k5, entra en el cuarto #ubuntu-es
[06:42] <thenostradamus> np
[06:43] <SRL2k5> k mas hago
[06:43] <freddy> O_o
[06:43] <daile> SQFreak, yeah? Did you really mean closing Tab or closing the whole firefox? Because closing I believe is Ctrl+W
[06:43] <freddy> pregunta alla? ---> ask there?
[06:44] <SRL2k5> ok grax men
[06:44] <IRCMonkey> whats the best file system to pick on the root drive? ext2, ext3, ReiserFS, FAT32 or one of the others in the list? it's on a 4GB harddrive with 250mb swap
[06:44] <SQFreak> daile: closing tab. i use Ctrl+F4 on Windows Firefox.
[06:44] <speel> IRCMonkey, either ext3 or reiserfs
[06:44] <freddy> SRL2k5, no problem.
[06:45] <SQFreak> IRCMonkey: I'd go with ext3 on a drive that small.
[06:45] <ksmurf> l8r all
[06:45] <ksmurf> and thanks
[06:45] <FoamY_is_wiccan> i have put in a new hard drive anyone know how to make ubuntu use it?
[06:45] <daile> SQFreak, yeah but I think Ctrl+W always works anyway in closing Firefox's tab
[06:45] <IRCMonkey> is there a manifest difference between them...in speed or in interaction?
[06:45] <kdp> SQFreak: you can also middleclick/mousewheelclick
[06:45] <IRCMonkey> ok ext3 it is
[06:46] <freddy> FoamY_is_wiccan, mount it
[06:46] <freddy> or put it in fstab
[06:46] <FoamY_is_wiccan> kk
[06:46] <speel> hmm i wish there was a fstab gui
[06:46] <daile> FoamY_is_wiccan, or you can use that hard driver to try other distros or even some BSD ones like PCBSD
[06:46] <IceDC571> gnome recognizes new devices right away, but if you use a different wm, you should add it to your fstab
[06:47] <freddy> omg flash player for linux kicks flash player for mac
[06:47] <kdp> speel: i believe there is...in whatjamacallit, oh damn i just forgot the name
[06:47] <SQFreak> kdp: i had trouble with that in Gentoo...
[06:47] <IceDC571> freddy: haha, how so?
[06:47] <freddy> the player on my mac SUCKS
[06:47] <freddy> really bad
[06:47] <speel> really? hm i never seen one
[06:47] <kdp> SQFreak: oh.  i just found it out today.  very useful.
[06:47] <daile> FoamY_is_wiccan, when I say hard driver, I mean hard drive. I think I shouldn't drink too much :)
[06:47] <IceDC571> ive never really noticed flash on a mac
[06:47] <arentie> good night all...me need sleepie
[06:47] <freddy> nite
[06:47] <IceDC571> goodnight
[06:47] <freddy> IceDC571, i work with flash half of my day
[06:48] <arentie> exit
[06:48] <MrJung> how, do I install test
[06:48] <freddy> we had to change some computers in the studio..because of the crappy player
[06:48] <MrJung> sorry
[06:48] <jasmuz> anyone knows how to setup masquerading ?
[06:48] <MrJung> how, do I install postmap
[06:48] <kdp> speel: xfce! yeah, thats it.
[06:48] <SQFreak> kdp: it always used to try to paste whatever was in the clipboard into the address bar.
[06:48] <speel> xfce has a built in fstab gui?
[06:48] <FoamY_is_wiccan> same here man
[06:48] <Nameless1> can someone tell if its its possible to burn *.bin files i can only see the iso option  any1 know a good program for that (if any)
[06:49] <IceDC571> Nameless1: you should be able to burn it fine with gnomebaker or k3b
[06:49] <speel> Nameless1, i think you right click on it then click burn
[06:49] <kdp> speel: yeah.
[06:49] <thenostradamus> don't u usually have a .cue along with a .bin?
[06:49] <jasmuz> anyone knows how to setup masquerading ?
[06:49] <SaidinUnleashed> where can I find md5sums for kubuntu? been looking for a while, and I'm either blind, stupid, both, or they're not there, and I doubt that they're not there.
[06:49] <speel> kdp, damn Lol how could ive missed it
[06:49] <IceDC571> you could just burn with a bin, but a cue could help out
[06:50] <Nameless1> thenostradamus: im missing the cue, but i have burnt bins with out cues in windows
[06:50] <Nameless1> what do i use to burn it i cant find any burning software that supports bin or cue its all iso :(
[06:50] <crimsun> SaidinUnleashed: did you check the kubuntu.org web site?
[06:50] <IceDC571> Nameless1: k3b
[06:51] <Nameless1> tried k3b it only has the option for iso
[06:51] <SQFreak> you could use a program called bin2iso - just alien'ify this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/PLD/dists/ra/PLD/i386/PLD/RPMS/bin2iso-1.9b-2.i386.html
[06:51] <SaidinUnleashed> crimsun, been searching for quite a while
[06:51] <IceDC571> try what SQFreak said
[06:51] <SaidinUnleashed> ah! down with the torrents!
[06:51] <SaidinUnleashed> Like I said, I'm blind :P
[06:51] <IceDC571> i love torrents, they always give me great speed
[06:51] <RichardC> i have a pentium 3
[06:51] <Nameless1> thanx ill try that
[06:51] <daile> bye yo all. Heading to bed now. Have a nice day everyone! My open questions are still ... open: how to speed up Lexmark printer and how to fix Enterprise VOlume Manager!
[06:52] <RichardC> is it ok to run linux-686, or should i use linux-386
[06:52] <SQFreak> I'm aliening it now...
[06:52] <SaidinUnleashed> anything pentium-pro or better is i686
[06:52] <kdp> oh damn i think i know how to setup a lexmark printer.
[06:52] <IceDC571> RichardC: pentium 3 starts at the 686 line so you're good
[06:52] <kdp> now he just up and left.
[06:52] <IceDC571> SaidinUnleashed: i thought pentium pro was 586?
[06:52] <jasmuz> anyone knows how to setup masquerading ?
[06:53] <RichardC> better question, can i run linux-686 without problems, an if so, will there be a performance boost?
[06:53] <SaidinUnleashed> IceDC571, nope, i686 fixed the f00f error in the 586 family
[06:53] <thenostradamus> jasmuz: try shorewall
[06:53] <jasmuz> shorewall?
[06:53] <RichardC> I was thinking P3 started at 586
[06:53] <SQFreak> Well, I was going to offer Nameless1 the deb package I created. :)
[06:53] <thenostradamus> it's a firewall app
[06:53] <IRCMonkey> I have a Celeron 400 with 64/ram and ubuntu seems to run perfect on it
[06:53] <RichardC> thats P2?
[06:53] <kdp> IRCMonkey: with X?
[06:54] <RichardC> err, so 586 is p2?
[06:54] <IceDC571> RichardC: nah, it started at 686, you're good to go
[06:54] <IRCMonkey> something like that yes
[06:54] <jasmuz> thenostradamus: thing is i want to rout the internet to a ethernet over usb device (Sharp Zaurus SL5500)
[06:54] <IceDC571> 586 is pentium pro and below, i read the wiki
[06:54] <IceDC571> pentium II too
[06:54] <thenostradamus> hmm.........
[06:54] <SQFreak> I though P2 was i686.
[06:54] <jasmuz> route*
[06:55] <IRCMonkey> with Gnome and also ran it with KDE, set up an http Apache2 server live online and it performed as fast as ever
[06:55] <RichardC> IceDC571: will i notice a performance boost?
[06:55] <RichardC> its my understanding that i will, but im not sure
[06:55] <SQFreak> Whatever, I've got a Pentium M and I recompiled my kernel to optimize for that (as well as include the mm patch that I really needed to make the system run right)
[06:55] <IRCMonkey> though the mouse delayied occaisonally...if it was WINXP it would have barely run so umbuntu did good here i think
[06:55] <jasmuz> thenostradamus: any ideas?
[06:56] <RichardC> another question
[06:56] <IceDC571> RichardC: you should have a performance boost instead of using 386.. but i dont think you'll notice it
[06:56] <SaidinUnleashed> RichardC, main difference with the i386 compiled kernel is that it probably has 387 (fpu) emulation enabled
[06:56] <SaidinUnleashed> and you probably don't need it
[06:56] <thenostradamus> http://www.shorewall.net/
[06:56] <SQFreak> RichardC: Not a very noticable performance boost. If you're going to be recompiling your kernel anyway, change the optimization. But otherwise, it's not worth recompiling - there's not that much of a boost.
[06:56] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone here play starcraft
[06:56] <thenostradamus> all i can think is to look there
[06:56] <thenostradamus> and see if u can find anything
[06:57] <RichardC> the latest fglrx driver in apt is 8.8, while the latest actual version is 8.14.  where can i find a deb for 8.14?
[06:57] <skel_> hello how can i become root just for a short period of time
[06:57] <skel_> i need to replace a image for a program
[06:57] <skel_> but it wont allow me
[06:57] <mannyc> sudo -s
[06:57] <thenostradamus> skel_: sudo bash
[06:57] <freddy> anyone have experiences with a tv card?
[06:57] <mannyc> sudo -s will give you a root terminal until you exit the terminal
[06:57] <IRCMonkey> the other system i'm going to be putting it on is a P3=650 w/320 mb ram so i'm expecting it'll be instant responce on that one.
[06:57] <IceDC571> my bad... pentium pro and higher is 686
[06:58] <skel_> thanks
[06:58] <freddy> i spent all my savings on this e3
[06:58] <dennis_> e3?
[06:58] <freddy> and ubuntu runs like if its taken by the hand of god
[06:59] <skel_> thenostradamus,  i still cant change anything in filestsem
[06:59] <skel_> that only makes me root in termial
[06:59] <freddy> dennis_, 3e
[06:59] <freddy> sorry
[06:59] <IceDC571> freddy: you're being too dramatic
[07:00] <freddy> lol why?
[07:00] <thenostradamus> u could try in one of ur other terminals
[07:00] <IceDC571> freddy: i think you love ubuntu way too much
[07:00] <SQFreak> freddy: I have an ATI TV-Wonder. What's up.
[07:00] <thenostradamus> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[07:00] <freddy> IceDC571, i am not going to hump it..no way
[07:00] <kdp> ha.
[07:00] <IceDC571> freddy: i would
[07:00] <freddy> hahaha
[07:00] <freddy> SQFreak, i cant get my Leadtek winfast 2000 working man :(
[07:01] <SQFreak> freddy: Sorry, dunno...
[07:01] <skel_> uhh
[07:01] <skel_> i cant figure this out
[07:01] <skel_> lol
[07:01] <SQFreak> freddy: my cards (Hauppauge! WinTV Go and ATI TV-Wonder) have always just worked in Linux
[07:02] <skel_> hell yea
[07:02] <SQFreak> freddy: I've still got my Hauppauge lying around somewhere. It's old and pretty crappy...
[07:02] <IceDC571> who wants some free video cards? i have one from hauppauge and one from ati
[07:02] <skel_> figured it out on my own
[07:02] <skel_> YEA!
[07:03] <kdp> skel_: we're now expecting you to do a major rewrite of the kernel.  by tomorrow.
[07:03] <kdp> good luck!
[07:03] <skel_> lol
[07:03] <skel_> (^_^)
[07:03] <skel_> all i did was add a new gaim start up pic
[07:03] <skel_> :P
[07:03] <skel_> still learning
[07:04] <skel_> had to do sudo mv logo blah blah location
[07:04] <Church_of_foamy> wishes kamping_kaiser was here
[07:04] <budluva> IceDC571, ill take one :P my ubuntu box currently has a nvida 32meg tnt2 :P
[07:06] <freddy> changing the logo foot from gnome menu and adding the ubuntu logo rocks :D
[07:06] <thenostradamus> using kde rocks
[07:06] <thenostradamus> lmao
[07:06] <kdp> i mean seriously, who uses a foot for their logo.
[07:06] <skel_> gnome foot so stupid
[07:06] <skel_> I wanna step on it
[07:06] <IceDC571> nah, its all about the slowness of gnome!
[07:06] <thenostradamus> lmao
[07:07] <IceDC571> thats actually my baby foot
[07:07] <IceDC571> dont make fun of me
[07:07] <skel_> i rathe ra peguin
[07:07] <SQFreak> freddy: can you lspci and tell me what it says about your TV Tuner Card?
[07:07] <IceDC571> i dont mind having a gnome foot on my keyboard instead of the windows flag
[07:07] <kdp> hahahha. stupid, useless windows key.
[07:07] <IceDC571> wtf.. why would you name your OS windows?
[07:07] <freddy> i woudl prefer a prostitute
[07:08] <thenostradamus> xbindkeys makes useless windows keys not useless;-)
[07:08] <kdp> really. i shall look into that.
[07:08] <Seveas> system -> prefs -> keyboard / keyboard shortcuts
[07:08] <freddy> SQFreak, 0000:06:01.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[07:08] <freddy> 0000:06:01.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[07:08] <Seveas> there you can do useful things with it too
[07:08] <IRCMonkey_> hello. Quick question. What is the name of the Art Software installed in ubuntu?
[07:09] <Seveas> IRCMonkey, The Gimp
[07:09] <IRCMonkey_> Seveas: thanks.
[07:09] <IRCMonkey_> is it available for windows?
[07:09] <seth_k> it is :)
[07:09] <thenostradamus> y is it called gimp?
[07:09] <IRCMonkey_> I'm at work and i want to get some good art software.
[07:09] <IRCMonkey_> okay. i'll get the gimp
[07:09] <seth_k> http://gimp.org/windows/ is the URL
[07:09] <kdp> gnu image manipulation.........something
[07:09] <IceDC571> haha.. isnt gnome based on the gimp?
[07:09] <seth_k> program
[07:10] <thenostradamus> ahhh
[07:10] <IRCMonkey> i'm using an 8 year old computer but I'm pretty stocked about learning to get around linux...hopfully i'll be able to get it installed on the new system in the next little while...just have to figure out how to do the driver installs.
[07:10] <freddy> kdp, program
[07:10] <IRCMonkey_> GNU Image Manipulation Program
[07:10] <freddy> :P
[07:10] <IceDC571> the gimp toolkit at least
[07:10] <IceDC571> without the gimp, would there be a gnome?
[07:10] <seth_k> IRCMonkey, you should be able to apt-get drivers for nvidia or ati
[07:10] <biovore> gnome was around before gimp
[07:10] <IceDC571> ohh
[07:10] <IRCMonkey_> thanks, seth_k
[07:10] <IceDC571> what was it based on before?
[07:11] <biovore> I tihink the G is gnu, not sure..
[07:11] <IRCMonkey> GIMP isn't bad actually...not as loaded as photoshop but it's pretty close and the tools are visually the same so it's easy to learn.
[07:11] <biovore> you can add to gimp with perl scripts :-)
[07:11] <biovore> it can do anything you want it to.. if you know what your doing
[07:11] <IceDC571> !info gtk
[07:11] <kdp> oh but thats always the tricky park.
[07:12] <kdp> er, part.
[07:12] <freddy> gimp IS based in gnome
[07:12] <SQFreak> freddy: that's odd. My WinTV Go was a BT878 and I had no problems. Is the module for it in your kernel?
[07:12] <IceDC571> !info gtk+
[07:12] <freddy> SQFreak, i have no idea where to start :D
[07:12] <IceDC571> oh lovely, no matches lol
[07:12] <IRCMonkey> maybe...Creative seems to be not very into releasing new sound card drivers for my model...they aren't even releasing the win 64 bit drivers till the winter so who knows when Linux would be
[07:13] <SQFreak> freddy: Neither do I...mine just worked!
[07:13] <kdp> oh you know somethings bad when they wont even release it for windows.
[07:13] <thenostradamus> has anyone tried the new amd-64 X2 processors??
[07:13] <freddy> SQFreak, damn, you didnt install any appl or something?
[07:13] <freddy> or a driver?
[07:13] <SQFreak> freddy: 'course, mine says Copyright 1998 Hauppauge Computer Works, Inc. on it...
[07:13] <SQFreak> freddy: Just launched TVTime.
[07:14] <SQFreak> freddy: the color was a tad off, so I had to adjust it a little.
[07:14] <freddy> damn man
[07:14] <IceDC571> "In place of the Qt toolkit, the GIMP Toolkit (GTK+) was chosen as the base of the GNOME desktop."
[07:14] <freddy> i think thats going to be it
[07:14] <freddy> =/
[07:15] <freddy> IceDC571, nice
[07:15] <kdp> what is Qt?
[07:15] <freddy> Quake Thunder
[07:15] <IceDC571> Qt is what KDE is based on
[07:15] <Seveas> Qrappy Trash
[07:15] <freddy> haha
[07:15] <kdp> hehehehehe.
[07:15] <IceDC571> actually quacker toats
[07:15] <Seveas> An overly bloated object oriented graphic toolkit
[07:16] <IceDC571> it was started in 1892 as an accidental bloated toolkit a pirate invented on the black pearl
[07:16] <kdp> rofl.
[07:16] <IceDC571> bill gates stole it then sold it to the open source community for part of the linux code
[07:16] <Seveas> :)
[07:17] <kdp> wait youre not serious....
[07:17] <freddy> -_-
[07:17] <kdp> b/c i would belive it.
[07:17] <Seveas> I am
[07:18] <kdp> no i mean about the bill gates part
[07:18] <Seveas> hehe
[07:18] <Seveas> well, Qt had some creepy licensing in the past
[07:18] <kdp> ah.
[07:18] <Seveas> at the moment the license is about the only good thing
[07:18] <kdp> ah yes i rmr reading something about that in a book.
[07:19] <dennis_> Hmm
[07:19] <dennis_> Can anyone help me with some firefox problems I'm having
[07:19] <Seveas> sure
[07:19] <dennis_> I click on an mp3 to download it and get an error
[07:19] <IceDC571> "KDE is a free software desktop environment that relies on the Qt toolkit  a piece of software written by Trolltech that did not use a free software license."
[07:19] <Seveas> what's the error ..?
[07:19] <dennis_> XML Parsing Erro: Not well-formed
[07:19] <IceDC571> well i'm surprised
[07:19] <Seveas> hmm
[07:19] <kdp> how can firefox mess up on downloading a mp3.
[07:19] <boogabug> hello. i installed gimp on a Japanese WindowsMe pc.
[07:19] <dennis_> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unknownContentTyle.xul
[07:19] <Seveas> sounds like the server is buggy and senfing a wrong header
[07:19] <boogabug> How can I get things in Gimp in English?
[07:19] <Seveas> oh...
[07:20] <dennis_> Line number 1, Coumn 20;
[07:20] <Seveas> boogabug, start it with LC_ALL=C gimp
[07:20] <dennis_> this._DS.GetTarget(mimeSource, valueProperty, true);
[07:20] <boogabug> that command will work in windows?
[07:20] <boogabug> Windows OS?
[07:20] <Seveas> boogabug, maybe you should reinstall FF or at least move your ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way
[07:20] <Seveas> boogabug, no
[07:21] <Seveas> dennis_, maybe you should reinstall FF or at least move your ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way
[07:21] <dennis_> Hmm
[07:21] <boogabug> seveal, will that command work in windows?
[07:21] <Seveas> boogabug, sorry 'bout that firefox bit, was not meant for you :)
[07:21] <dennis_> How do I remove firefox completely
[07:21] <boogabug> yes.
[07:21] <boogabug> Seveas: will that command work in Windows
[07:21] <boogabug> ?
[07:21] <Seveas> boogabug, no, i have no clue how to do that in windows
[07:21] <kdp> boogabug: someone else mentioned http://gimp.org/windows/ earlier
[07:21] <Seveas> dennis_, aptitude purge mozilla-firefox
[07:22] <gm78> Hey everyone. Does anyone know how to make Windows 2000 play nice with Samba on Ubuntu? I have no password set up on the Win2K computer and it still asks me for a password when I try to view a shared folder through Ubuntu. I can open shared folders on a WinXP computer just fine
[07:22] <dennis_> what does purge do?
[07:22] <boogabug> kdp, that's where i got the software.. but i don't think it will say how i can change the language, will it?
[07:22] <Church_of_foamy> i just really pissed off 2 people in kubuntu >.<
[07:22] <Seveas> but it might be a problem with your settings, which will not be removed with purge
[07:22] <Church_of_foamy> and now i'm woriied about it >.<
[07:22] <gm78> boogabug, gimp-win.sourceforge.net
[07:22] <Church_of_foamy> maybe even 3 people >.<
[07:22] <Seveas> dennis_, it removes all global config files belonging to firefox too
[07:22] <dennis_> k
[07:22] <thenostradamus> dennis: apt-get remove firefox
[07:22] <Seveas> Church_of_foamy, wth did you do..?
[07:22] <kdp> oops.  did you slander kde?
[07:23] <IceDC571> purge it baby!
[07:23] <IceDC571> it removes the config files with it
[07:23] <boogabug> Gm78, i got the files from there, but i installed it on  a japnanese Windows pc.
[07:23] <Church_of_foamy> can i pm you with it id rather not say it here
[07:23] <Seveas> sure
[07:23] <gm78> Church_of_foamy, lol, what did u do?
[07:23] <gm78> Church_of_foamy, oh, lol, nvm then
[07:23] <dennis_> Alright..
[07:24] <gm78> boogabug, what do u mean load in english?
[07:24] <dennis_> How do I install it again?
[07:24] <boogabug> gm78. Gimp's interface is all in Japanese.
[07:24] <gm78> boogabug, a better place to ask for help with gimp on windows is to join the #gimp chatroom on this server
[07:25] <gm78> boogabug, they probably know stuff like that better than us
[07:26] <boogabug> how do i register and identify myself ith the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). ?
[07:27] <gm78> boogabug, leave the server and then rejoin (not a chatroom, just connect to irc.freenode.net) it should give you a link to instructions
[07:27] <IceDC571> "The "K" originally stood for "Kool" ("C" as in "cool" was already given away to the Common Desktop Environment), but was changed soon after to stand simply for "K", which is "The first letter before 'L' (which stands for Linux) in the Latin alphabet."
[07:27] <IceDC571> wow
[07:28] <kdp> ...............................................................................................
[07:28] <IceDC571> sorry im reading the KDE wiki finding this interesting
[07:28] <kdp> hahahahaha.
[07:28] <boogabug> Gm78, no info in the main window.
[07:28] <kdp> thats possible one of the most random things ever.
[07:29] <kdp> K for Kool...
[07:29] <boogabug> gm78, no instructions.
[07:29] <gm78> hmmm....im not sure then
[07:29] <thenostradamus> aight, i gotta get some sleep..............g-night everyone
[07:29] <gm78> boogabug, does it say the nick is owned by someone else?
[07:29] <IceDC571> KDE does have a kreepy history
[07:29] <Seveas> K still stands for the 'kool' attitude all KDE programs have, extreme creeping featuritis
[07:29] <boogabug> it says nothing.
[07:30] <Seveas> boogabug, /msg nickserv help
[07:30] <kdp> mmmmmmmm dont you mean "extreme kreeping featuritis"
[07:31] <IceDC571> kdp: lets not get karried away here
[07:31] <Miks> how can i change the background color of my screen when the splash screen is loading?
[07:31] <gm78> kome on guys, kan we shut up about kde now :-P
[07:31] <SQFreak> What's wrong with KDE?
[07:32] <boogabug> okay. now i've registerd my nickname and password. how do i enter the Gimp chatroom now?
[07:32] <Seveas> boogabug, /join #giimp
[07:32] <Seveas> boogabug, /join #gimp
[07:32] <boogabug> okay it warks.
[07:33] <kdp> Miks: if you find the menu item for the login screen, it should have a little box with the color you want.
[07:33] <Miks> thanks kdp
[07:33] <KiceDC571> i think im already konverting ;)
[07:33] <kdp> hahahaha.
[07:34] <kdp> aw......i cant.
[07:34] <HWolf> Does anyone know how I can prevent the kernel from loading it's serial driver, so my serial port is free for lirc to use?
[07:34] <graystone> Hello everyone.
[07:34] <Seveas> HWolf, add the driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:35] <graystone> I need some help, you all don't mind.
[07:35] <KiceDC571> graystone: just ask
[07:35] <graystone> I have installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but cannot get the wireless network card to work.
[07:35] <seth_k> what chipset?
[07:35] <nickrud> HWolf, do you have a special card that gives you the serial port you want?
[07:35] <graystone> It's a Compaq Evo N610C w/Compaq WLAN W200 wireless card.
[07:36] <HWolf> Seveas, which driver would that be?
[07:36] <HWolf> nickrud, Just trying to get my lirc-reciever to work, but it needs to go around the kernel, somehow.
[07:36] <jasmuz> :S
[07:37] <nickrud> HWolf heh, 'lirc-recievier
[07:37] <HWolf> nickrud, don't ask
[07:37] <boogabug> okay. what's the second best freeware art program after gimp? Something that can run in windows.
[07:37] <nickrud> never heard of it
[07:37] <boogabug> I just need a simple image manipulation software.
[07:37] <Amaranth> boogabug: Doesn't exist, afaik.
[07:37] <IRCMonkey_> freeware...goodluck
[07:37] <KiceDC571> boogabug: paint.net is pretty good in windows
[07:37] <boogabug> nothing fancy needed.
[07:37] <boogabug> KiceDC571: htanks.
[07:38] <IRCMonkey_> paint shop pro is good...30 day trial
[07:38] <boogabug> IRCMonkey_, why "good luck"?
[07:38] <IceDC571> boogabug: search for paint net in google it'll be one of the first links, its nice and free.. it has layers too
[07:39] <boogabug> IceDC571: thanks!
[07:39] <boogabug> oh, i forgot to say. i need something that runs in WinMe. paint net won't run in win me, according to their website.
[07:39] <IceDC571> hmm...
[07:40] <IceDC571> lol WinME.. hmm...
[07:40] <kdp> boogabug: if you have the time, try imagemagick under cygwin
[07:40] <IceDC571> wait Amaranth wernt you running WinME?
[07:40] <IRCMonkey_> because any professional graphic editing programs will be pay unless it's a project like linux or gimp...the amount of resources that go into such programs means whatever is free will likiely not be quality...I've used a LOT of that type of software over te years
[07:40] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Sadly.
[07:40] <IRCMonkey_> so yes...good luck :-D
[07:41] <IceDC571> Amaranth: so im guessing you didnt use any image apps while in winme?
[07:41] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Nope.
[07:41] <Amaranth> IceDC571: I'm running it right now.
[07:41] <boogabug> i just need a simple art program. nothing too professional.
[07:41] <IRCMonkey_> for what...whats the end goal
[07:41] <IceDC571> boogabug: are you considering using linux eventually?
[07:41] <kdp> i believe "paint" is a simple art program.
[07:42] <boogabug> ice, at home i am using ubuntu.
[07:42] <boogabug> it's just at work.
[07:42] <IRCMonkey_> ?resizing, text, photo retouching, graphic design etc..
[07:42] <boogabug> i have no choice but to use the computers they provide
[07:42] <IceDC571> im wondering why everyone's work has windowsme these days
[07:42] <IRCMonkey_> paint is indeed simple...but you can't do much with it.
[07:42] <kdp> mmm boogabug have you tried a live cd :-)?
[07:42] <boogabug> i just need simple manipulation. Like Image Flipping.
[07:43] <IceDC571> boogabug: have you tried picasa?
[07:43] <boogabug> kdp, don't want to try it at work. it may surprise my coworkers. they may never talk to me
[07:43] <kdp> oh.
[07:43] <IRCMonkey_> that's not graphic design...fliping, resizing, anything like that you can find freeware in any OS no problem
[07:43] <Seveas> boogabug, for simple yet advanced image manipulation, use imagemagick
[07:44] <boogabug> Seveas:imagemagick will work in WinMe and is freeware?
[07:44] <ivoks> boogabug: sure it will work with cygwin
[07:44] <ivoks> it isn't freeware :)
[07:44] <goliat> hello there
[07:44] <ivoks> it's opensource project
[07:45] <kdp> oh wow imagemagick does have a windows binary.
[07:45] <kdp> no cygwin needed.
[07:45] <IRCMonkey_> or really go hardcore and download a Paint Shop Pro Trial...it's as simple as can be done while maintaining a high level of functionality...in what i've used anyway....Photoshop would probablky drown you though.
[07:53] <freddy> brb
[07:57] <Church_of_foamy> my mouse has traveld 3176.7 feet today ^_^
[07:57] <IceDC571> boogabug: hows imagemagick?
[07:58] <cafuego> Why don't you just run Gimp in windows?
[07:58] <nickrud> Church_of_foamy I take it you found a real oldy :)
[07:58] <goliat> if i want a php on my apache to write on a folder and apache uses the user www-data should i set chowm www-data /folder/name  ?
[07:58] <adwait> hello ppl.....
[07:58] <Church_of_foamy> ^_^ mouse odometer
[07:58] <goliat> or does it have any negatives
[07:58] <IceDC571> adwait: hello there
[07:58] <cafuego> Uisng imagemagick via a crap commandline (cmd.exe) would suck
[07:59] <adwait> goliat: yes
[07:59] <goliat> adwait, thank you
[07:59] <adwait> goliat: np
[07:59] <nickrud> heh, i remember that one
[07:59] <Church_of_foamy> it comes with kubuntu
[07:59] <Church_of_foamy> it's neat
[07:59] <cafuego> goliat: Also set mode g+s and +t
[07:59] <Church_of_foamy> though  it takes up space in the k bar
[08:00] <hondje> http://www.gulftech.org/?node=research&article_id=00088-07022005 <--- ugly if you have a blog
[08:00] <aspro> anyone in here use a mac? do you know what the status is with mac osx + ubuntu?
[08:01] <goliat> cafuego goliat: Also set mode g+s and +t can u please just describe what ""cafuego goliat: Also set mode g+s and +t"" means ?
[08:01] <aspro> err, I mean I have had trouble with the new HFS+ used by tiger
[08:01] <nickrud> I haven't tried the kde one, but a few days of measuring can be dismaying
[08:02] <gm78> Hey all. Do you know how to enable Canadian English or British English in OOo
[08:02] <gm78> spell check doesnt work when i select te
[08:03] <gm78> *them
[08:03] <nickrud> spell check isn't working for me in oo either, en(usa).
[08:03] <cafuego> goliat: Read 'man chmod' for info on what those modes do.
[08:04] <cafuego> nickrud: That's ok, americans can't spell anyway.
[08:04] <tlahtolli> hi
[08:04] <gm78> nickrud, it worked for me on English USA but i live in canada
[08:04] <nickrud> yes we can, we just prefer not to
[08:04] <gm78> cafuego, lol
[08:04] <rommer> i have a script that runs some commands as root/sudo, how can i make these commands run properly if the script is in /etc/cron.monthly so i dont have to run the script manually
[08:04] <tlahtolli> it's spelled colour isn't it
[08:04] <cafuego> goliat: Did you install the en-ca add-on for OOo and/or the en-ca dictionary?
[08:04] <gm78> tlahtolli, lol, yes it is
[08:04] <cafuego> Eh, gm78 even...
[08:04] <tlahtolli> wonderful
[08:05] <tlahtolli> now if i may...
[08:05] <tlahtolli> does amsn support v4l2?
[08:05] <cafuego> rommer: cron.* runs as root by default.
[08:05] <rommer> cafuego: ok
[08:06] <gm78> tlahtolli, i think they are adding support for it in 0.95, which is in cvs right now
[08:06] <tlahtolli> oh really?
[08:06] <tlahtolli> that's cool
[08:06] <tlahtolli> by the way did you all know it has webcam support?
[08:06] <gm78> tlahtolli, amsn.sourceforge.net   they have some info there.... they do in stable?????? which is the latest version?
[08:07] <gm78> tlahtolli, or were u asking me if they do?
[08:07] <goliat> cafuego, i feel so stupid i cant understand what u are talking about
[08:07] <goliat> whats OOo
[08:07] <cafuego> goliat: OpenOffice.org
[08:07] <gm78> goliat, OpenOffice.org
[08:08] <goliat> yep now i got it
[08:08] <cafuego> goliat: It was meant for gm78, not for you.
[08:08] <goliat> well i got openoffice.org
[08:08] <goliat> so called OOo
[08:08] <goliat> no i didnt download that
[08:09] <goliat> well just as a question i work in an organisation in an arab coutry
[08:09] <goliat> how could i make OOo work in arabic
[08:09] <goliat> and how can i switch between english to arabic
[08:09] <tlahtolli> gm78: well, the last cvs i downloaded, yeah, it has webcam support
[08:09] <tlahtolli> i used it to talk to my sister in italy
[08:09] <jasmuz> take care people
[08:10] <tlahtolli> but i used an old quickcam
[08:10] <tlahtolli> and the picture quality wasn't as good
[08:10] <tlahtolli> so now i'm trying to get the genius videocam nb to work with amsn
[08:10] <tlahtolli> it was a total pain trying to find the drivers
[08:11] <tlahtolli> but it works, the only problem i get now is that amsn can't list the channel the camera's on
[08:11] <nickrud> The strange thing is, I think I have all the default english oofice stuff installed, but settings->options->language options has no engiish usa, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong place
[08:12] <Adross> i just reinstalled xp(for creative zen touch) and everything went fine. GRUB is still there and everything. Thing is, when i choose to boot into windows, i get an 'ntldr is missing' error. If i recall, this relates to booting, but it doesn't make any sense. Any tips?
[08:12] <nickrud> huh, writing aids, i mean
[08:12] <SpecialBuddy> is there a way to change the color settings on kubuntu
[08:17] <SpecialBuddy> where is device manager on jubuntu
[08:17] <SpecialBuddy> kubuntu
[08:18] <Amaranth> SpecialBuddy: #kubuntu might be more helpful
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> do you know much about wine
[08:20] <Amaranth> not really
[08:20] <SpecialBuddy> oh
[08:20] <SpecialBuddy> I think I need to download drivers for my video card
[08:20] <Amaranth> for wine?
[08:24] <beginnerMKII> Hey guys i am new to linux and im trying to follow this thing off a site, but whats the deal everytime i do the sudo.... ... ... at the terminal, it asks for password?? :S
[08:24] <Adross> leave the same terminal open
[08:24] <Amaranth> it has a timeout value
[08:24] <Adross> oh yeh
[08:25] <Amaranth> if you leave the terminal open and use it a couple times in a row you only get asked once
[08:25] <beginnerMKII> ??
[08:25] <Amaranth> if you close the terminal you get asked again and if you don't use it for awhile you get asked again
[08:25] <beginnerMKII> It doesn't even let me type in the field
[08:25] <Amaranth> err
[08:25] <beginnerMKII> I don't understand
[08:26] <Amaranth> oh, i see
[08:26] <Amaranth> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:26] <Amaranth> you can't see yourself typing anything, but you are
[08:26] <beginnerMKII> oh
[08:26] <Amaranth> it doesn't show so someone watching can't see how long your password is
[08:26] <beginnerMKII> lol
[08:26] <HWolf> I'm looking for a way to prevent the kernel from loading its serial driver, so the hardware stays open for lirc to use, any takers?
[08:27] <beginnerMKII> But i do not know what password is anyway? it doesn't mention their is one, or ones needed.
[08:27] <comadreja> how do I add support in my ubuntu for multiple wireless networks, so I can change from one to the other... ?
[08:27] <Amaranth> it's your own password
[08:27] <Amaranth> that URL i gave explains it all
[08:27] <nickrud> HWolf /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[08:27] <beginnerMKII> Cool, thanks, i go check it
[08:27] <beginnerMKII> Oh yes !
[08:27] <beginnerMKII> You are right
[08:27] <beginnerMKII> Thanks !
[08:27] <comadreja> in a laptop, I mean having three different network configs and changing
[08:28] <Burgundavia> comadreja, nothing easy currently. There is a fix for Breezy
[08:28] <HWolf> nickrud, no, it needs to be clear *before* /etc/modules is called. :S
[08:28] <comadreja> Burgundavia : so I have to stick to laptop-net
[08:28] <Burgundavia> comadreja, yes
[08:28] <Burgundavia> comadreja, ugly, but true
[08:29] <comadreja> Burgundavia : I could work out a solution, where could I propose it ?
[08:29] <Burgundavia> comadreja, there is already a solution
[08:29] <nickrud> HWolf so, maybe a kernel with no serial drivers :)
[08:29] <HWolf> fabbione, around?
[08:29] <comadreja> Burgundavia : not backported ?
[08:29] <Burgundavia> comadreja, http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/networkmanager/
[08:29] <Burgundavia> comadreja, not yet stable
[08:29] <Burgundavia> comadreja, mostly there but needs some polish
[08:30] <Burgundavia> if you want to do some coding on it, talk to thom is #ubuntu-devel
[08:30] <comadreja> Burgundavia : well, good to know anyway :) thanks a lot
[08:30] <comadreja> oh, cool, I'll go there right away
[08:30] <comadreja> thanks :)
[08:30] <Burgundavia> np
[08:31] <Razor-X> hey!
[08:31] <Razor-X> i'm home from a shitt-as-hell trip *sigh*
[08:31] <Razor-X> *sight
[08:31] <Razor-X> mmmm, emacs....
[08:32] <Razor-X> *shit
[08:32] <Razor-X> dunno how shit == sight
[08:32] <nickrud> hey Razor-X long time no crap
[08:33] <Razor-X> true that, i'm backed up as hell eating all that damned pizza ;)
[08:33] <nickrud> cheese
[08:33] <nickrud> love it
[08:33] <Razor-X> mmmmmmm
[08:33] <Madpilot> we didn't need to know, that Razor-X...
[08:33] <Razor-X> and Pepperoni
[08:33] <Madpilot> ;)
[08:34] <Amaranth> new topic
[08:34] <Razor-X> Madpilot: ;)
[08:34] <Razor-X> anyways, I need emacs to settle meself
[08:34] <Razor-X> mmmmm, emacs.... *sigs loudly*
[08:34] <Razor-X> I don't think i'll be eating pizza for a long long time
[08:34] <Razor-X> like... a week
[08:34] <cafuego> Honestly, sounds like that trip is the least of your worries
[08:34] <Razor-X> cafuego: ;)
[08:34] <Razor-X> *sighs
[08:36] <nickrud> I am a user of a non operating system editor
[08:36] <mannyc> try emacs-snapshot-gtk
[08:37] <Razor-X> nickrud: there exists none-truly such ;)
[08:37] <Razor-X> ELF is a binary specific to a very large set of systems, large nonetheless ;)
[08:37] <nickrud> emacs-snapshot-gtk?
[08:37] <Razor-X> mannyc: even if emacs is its own terminal
[08:38] <Razor-X> i'm not about to gtk it
[08:38] <Razor-X> when my terminal works fine
[08:38] <mannyc> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsCvsAndDebian with debian (ubuntu) instructions..
[08:38] <Razor-X> my specifically configured eterm, at that
[08:38] <mannyc> razor-x
[08:38] <mannyc> : no problems...whatever you like
[08:38] <mannyc> i use both vi and emacs
[08:38] <Razor-X> I can use vi, of course
[08:38] <Razor-X> I used to be a vi user
[08:39] <Razor-X> but what finally made me throw in the towel was the new rendering of idiotic movement controls
[08:39] <nickrud> lol
[08:39] <Razor-X> the movement controls are all over the keyboard ;), plus I prefer the hard feeling of emacs keys
[08:40] <gpd> new rendering of idiotic movement what?  you mean hjkl?
[08:40] <nickrud> you know, I am totally agnostic; I just love to tweak it now and then :)\
[08:40] <Razor-X> gpd: exactly, hjkl are in totally different places
[08:40] <Razor-X> nickrud: you mean, you support use of joe? ;)
[08:40] <nickrud> hey, I point people at nano
[08:41] <gpd> nano is for your mother... vim is for your soul... emacs is for gardening text files
[08:42] <cafuego> nano is satan
[08:42] <gpd> I have used them all, but vim is the most ergonomic for me
[08:42] <cafuego> it destroys code formatting
[08:42] <nickrud> oh, that almost made me a gardener
[08:42] <Razor-X> gpd: great analogy
[08:42] <gpd> and command history is the dogs
[08:42] <Razor-X> mind if I use it?
[08:42] <Razor-X> (with due credit given, of course)
[08:42] <gpd> no probs
[08:42] <Razor-X> i'm writing a newbie's introduction to the world of CLI
[08:42] <Razor-X> and a large chapter is devoted to text editors
[08:42] <cafuego> gpd: vim is the most ergonomic for anyone, it's just that emacs users are too stubborn.
[08:43] <Razor-X> ironically, I fell to emacs researching for the guide
[08:43] <Proteque> :D
[08:43] <gpd> emacs keys fit well with the console
[08:43] <gpd> as the binding are of course the same
[08:43] <Razor-X> cafuego: I think you mean 'most anyone'
[08:43] <Razor-X> hjkl are poles apart on my keyboard
[08:43] <Proteque> gpd: what bindings is that?
[08:43] <gpd> only nutters do set -o vi
[08:43] <cafuego> Razor-X: Well, not quadraplegics, of course
[08:43] <Razor-X> cafuego: or Dvorak users ;)
[08:43] <cafuego> Razor-X: Same diff
[08:43] <gpd> in the console... Ctrl-U, B, K, Q... etc...
[08:44] <Razor-X> QWERTY is a beast I am not going to touch any time soon, and therefore, I need everything tailored around my tastes
[08:44] <gpd> command line editing in bash defaults to emacs keybindings
[08:44] <_cory> whats up guys
[08:44] <Razor-X> my eterm, my eterm binds, my text editor, my SSH shell, my IRC binds, everything
[08:44] <_cory> hey is it just me or is kubuntu a bit more difficult then ubuntu with gnome?
[08:44] <Razor-X> my whole Linux flavor is tailored exactly to me, custom with my thumb trackball
[08:44] <cafuego> gpd: Yeah, I've been meaning to file a bug against that...
[08:44] <Razor-X> _cory: just you ;)
[08:45] <gpd> cafuego: try set -o vi
[08:45] <gpd> it is scary but you might love it
[08:45] <_cory> maybe u can help me then razor :), i need to get ndiswrapper on this by0tch..whats my best bet for getting it on here?
[08:45] <cafuego> gpd: It's needs to be the default
[08:45] <Razor-X> _cory: ahhh, don't have that much experience, but I hear ndiswrapper is a bitch as it is
[08:45] <_cory> it is
[08:45] <Razor-X> there are wiki pages on it though
[08:45] <Razor-X> quite a few
[08:45] <_cory> i had it working on my old ubuntu
[08:45] <Razor-X> so, read up is all I can suggest *shrugs*
[08:46] <gpd> anyone use amd64 hoary?
[08:46] <_cory> no apt-get :(?
[08:46] <ablyss> doesn't opera use ndiswrapper?
[08:46] <_cory> gpd: i'm using it right now
[08:46] <Razor-X> _cory: of course there's apt-get
[08:46] <cafuego> _cory: Does the card you want to use have win64 drivers?
[08:46] <Razor-X> ablyss: possibly, have to check that out on my Opera install
[08:46] <_cory> i'd assume so
[08:46] <gpd> _cory: do you chroot for dvd playback? - mine seems broken...
[08:46] <_cory> it came with xp and all that shit lol
[08:46] <cafuego> _cory: Yes or no.
[08:46] <Razor-X> but, I don't have a need for ndiswrapper, so, ;)
[08:46] <Razor-X> cafuego: he's not using a 64 box
[08:46] <gpd> _cory: but sound in chroot is weird as flash sound works but /dev/dsp seems busted
[08:47] <_cory> i havn't tried dvd playback yet, i just installed the 64 bit version...i was using the regular
[08:47] <cafuego> Razor-X: d'oh!
[08:47] <cafuego> gpd: I use brrezy amd64; I don't bother with flash, it crashes firefox even if I run the hoary one in a 32bit chroot.
[08:47] <Amaranth> cafuego: Did you get my messages?
[08:48] <cafuego> Amaranth: Doesn't look like it...
[08:48] <ablyss> firefox crashes for regardless
[08:48] <ablyss> for me*
[08:48] <Amaranth> cafuego: I had one suggestion that I can't remember and I told you I own the UbuntuBot nick if you want it for ubotu.
[08:48] <cafuego> Amaranth: Ah, neat :-)
[08:48] <nickrud> cafuego I'm picking up an amd64 soon, have you tried any of the 32 bin in a breezy chroot yet?
[08:48] <Amaranth> cafuego: I'm assuming you wanted that but couldn't get it at the time. :)
[08:49] <cafuego> nickrud: No, I've recent deleted all 32bit chroots, if it ain't 64 i have no need to run it.
[08:49] <nickrud> heh, so, no flash, etc
[08:49] <cafuego> Amaranth: Well, I was actually after 'ubuntu' but i dunno who owns that.
[08:49] <Amaranth> Ha.
[08:49] <cafuego> nickrud: flash is the biggest waste of time this side of the galaxy as far as I'm concerned.
[08:49] <Amaranth> You can't have 'ubuntu', it's what the LiveCD users come in as.
[08:49] <nickrud> lol
[08:50] <Nameless1> can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso
[08:50] <cafuego> nickrud: I haven't used it for YEARS, even on Win/Mac
[08:50] <nickrud> i'm on dialup, that was the first thing I wiped from my system for this situation
[08:50] <cafuego> Amaranth: Bastards, can't they be renabled to 'knoppix' or something? ;-)
[08:50] <Amaranth> a non-dev registered it though, probably so they could be funny and ghost people
[08:50] <Amaranth> at least i don't think it was a dev
[08:51] <dennis_> One quick question
[08:51] <Amaranth> jdub: Do you know who owns the 'ubuntu' nick? If it's not one of you you should ask lilo to give it to you.
[08:51] <dennis_> Can anyone recommend a good pod casting program for ubuntu?
[08:51] <Amaranth> jdub: Otherwise it's open for abuse seeing how that's what LiveCD users join as.
[08:51] <cafuego> Amaranth: Whoever did, they haven't used it on 28 weeks
[08:51] <dennis_> Anyone know of a good pod casting program?
[08:52] <Amaranth> cafuego: They haven't identified in 28 weeks
[08:52] <cafuego> dennis_: vim and apache2
[08:52] <Amaranth> cafuego: As ubuntu. There is a difference.
[08:52] <dennis_> wtf?
[08:52] <Amaranth> cafuego: Err, I think he means for downloading podcasts
[08:52] <dennis_> Apache2 for podcast?
[08:52] <dennis_> I mean't to manage casts
[08:52] <cafuego> dennis_: yes
[08:52] <dennis_> yes
[08:52] <dennis_> Managing casts..not making them
[08:52] <cafuego> dennis_: apache2, an xml file and a bunch of mp3's ;-)
[08:53] <dennis_> No programs???
[08:53] <Amaranth> cafuego: He isn't making them. He wants to subscribe to some.
[08:53] <dennis_> That will fetch the latest show on startup like in windows?
[08:53] <cafuego> Amaranth: Yeah, I consider 'not identifying' 'not using'
[08:53] <cafuego> Amaranth: aaah, he wants a podcast client
[08:53] <dennis_> You guys know of any?
[08:54] <Amaranth> Not I.
[08:54] <dennis_> :(
[08:54] <Nameless1> can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso
[08:54] <cafuego> !find podcast
[08:54] <dennis_> lol
[08:54] <cafuego> Same thing as flash
[08:54] <cafuego> useless drivel ;-0
[08:55] <unome> gtkpod maybe?
[08:55] <dennis_> gtkpod
[08:55] <dennis_> hmm
[08:55] <Amaranth> gtkpod is for working with an iPod
[08:55] <unome> hmm
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'podcast' returned no results.
[08:56] <dennis_> ipodder
[08:56] <dennis_> is one...
[08:56] <dennis_> I'm going to try and install it
[08:56] <unome> !find gnupod-tools
[08:56] <ubotu> gnupod-tools: (A collection of Perl-scripts for iPod), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.94rc1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[08:56] <robitaille> dennis_: I use http://ipodder.sourceforge.net/
[08:56] <dennis_> Thats what I'm going to use :D
[08:56] <dennis_> Installing now
[08:57] <robitaille> dennis_: http://linc.homeunix.org:8080/scripts/bashpodder/ is a simple one
[08:57] <dennis_> What are some good pod casts?
[08:57] <dennis_> I know of Twit
[08:57] <dennis_> but thats it
[08:57] <robitaille> dennis_:  lugradio.org
[08:57] <robitaille> dennis_: http://www.thelinuxlink.net/tllts/
[08:58] <Nameless1> can somone help me out, i have a *.bin file with no cue file. And its giving me shits i have got the impression i would have no problem with a cue file. and that u can rightclick on cue files and click mount (from what i read in google) is there a way of fixing this? or how do i convert the bin to iso
[08:58] <dennis_> robitaille, how do you install ipodder?
[08:58] <dennis_> nvm
[08:59] <robitaille> dennis_:  download it, extract (tar?) then  run the installer?  I haven't done it in a while, but I think it was pretty simple.
[09:00] <_cory> shouldn't the cmd "grep network" disp all network devices?
[09:01] <dennis_> ps aux | grep network
[09:01] <dennis_> I think
[09:01] <nickrud> _cory maybe ifconfig ?
[09:01] <_cory> possible
[09:01] <_cory> letme try that
[09:01] <bimberi> _cory: ifconfig
[09:02] <_cory> nah i'm trying to find out the actual name of my wireless card
[09:02] <_cory> it's a broadcom sumthing..
[09:02] <_cory> i really need the model number
[09:02] <bimberi> _cory: "lspci" might have some clues
[09:03] <_cory> yeah thats true
[09:03] <freddy> splashy thingy wont work
[09:03] <freddy> grr
[09:03] <_cory> awesome that got it..thx bimberi
[09:04] <bimberi> _cory: yw :)
[09:06] <aCiD2> Hi all
[09:06] <freddy> hi you
[09:06] <aCiD2> To compile Muine I need gtk+2.6 - ubuntu seems to come with only gtk+-2.0, s that correct?
[09:06] <orlando> hi does anyone know of a program to convert .mpg into .gif
[09:06] <freddy> gimp?
[09:07] <orlando> wow really?
[09:07] <orlando> ok thanks
[09:07] <freddy> ok i need to make a test to my mother
[09:08] <nickrud> aCiD2 muine is avaialbe in ubuntu, why do you want to compile it?
[09:08] <freddy> i need to find away to make ubuntu to look almost identical as windows
[09:08] <IceDC571> could someone reccomend an online music store that will work with my ipod?
[09:08] <freddy> do you guys know a good tutorial?
[09:08] <orlando> hmmm it says unknown filetype
[09:08] <orlando> when i try to open .mpg in gimp
[09:08] <freddy> orlando, mpg? what are nuts?
[09:08] <aCiD2> nickrud, I need m4a support
[09:08] <nickrud> lol, msybe
[09:09] <freddy> orlando, i thought you said jpg
[09:09] <freddy> lol
[09:09] <orlando> umm?
[09:09] <MolochOwl> .mpg and .gif are apples and oranges
[09:09] <freddy> lol
[09:09] <freddy> its like dicks and cars
[09:10] <nickrud> aCiD2 , heh, I haven't really looked at the latest stuff
[09:10] <orlando> so how do i convert .mpg to .gif
[09:10] <MolochOwl> inmore ways than one hehe
[09:10] <aCiD2> Whoops
[09:10] <nickrud> and, what the hell is m4a
[09:10] <aCiD2> Anyway, does anyone know how I can get muine to play m4a (AAC) files without a recompile?
[09:10] <nickrud> :)
[09:10] <Amaranth> aCiD2: You can't
[09:11] <aCiD2> m4a is apple's main file format (I used to use iTunes on windows, and it rips cds with aac)
[09:11] <aCiD2> Amaranth, you mean without a recompile
[09:11] <Amaranth> aCiD2: You need to apply a patch and recompile.
[09:11] <aCiD2> Cool
[09:11] <MolochOwl> .mpg is a vidio file...so many many frames of stills per second make it up. .gif allows for animation but only a very very small amount and the file size/quality will be crap.
[09:11] <Amaranth> aCiD2: m4a is a container format, you really mean AAC
[09:11] <aCiD2> Is there anything that needs to be done to get rhythm box to play aac?
[09:11] <Amaranth> but yeah
[09:11] <dennis_> Hmm
[09:11] <aCiD2> Amaranth, yea, my bad
[09:11] <Amaranth> aCiD2: get gstreamer-faad
[09:12] <dennis_> How do you install a deb?
[09:12] <aCiD2> Amaranth, got that already
[09:12] <Amaranth> aCiD2: That's all there is to it for rhythmbox.
[09:12] <aCiD2> Hmmm
[09:12] <poningru> I had a question why doesnt ubuntu have something like planet.mozilla.org
[09:12] <Amaranth> they do
[09:12] <aCiD2> :P
[09:12] <Amaranth> planet.ubuntu.com
[09:12] <poningru> please link
[09:12] <action09> poningru planet.ubuntu.. :)
[09:12] <MolochOwl> basically your not going to have much luck turning an mpg into a few seconds of gif.
[09:12] <poningru> rofl
[09:13] <poningru> I searched around for that like crazy couldnt find one
[09:13] <dennis_> dennis@Spartan:~$ sudo rpm -U /home/dennis/Desktop/skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb
[09:13] <dennis_> /home/dennis/Desktop/skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb: read manifest failed: Success
[09:13] <dennis_> :(
[09:13] <poningru> heh
[09:13] <poningru> thanks guys
[09:13] <aCiD2> Amaranth, faad or faac?
[09:13] <IceDC571> well for some odd reason, out of the box.. rhythmbox didnt support my ipod, when i had gstreamer-faad2 too, it said something about it not being able to read the vfs.. then a couple weeks later it works mysteriously
[09:13] <freddy> mpg to gif
[09:13] <freddy> lol
[09:13] <IceDC571> aCiD2: you want faad
[09:13] <IceDC571> d for decoding, c for encoding
[09:13] <dennis_> Anyone here have skype installed?
[09:13] <freddy> IceDC571, damn man :(
[09:13] <aCiD2> ahhh
[09:13] <Amaranth> aCiD2: faad
[09:13] <aCiD2> cool, I wonder what the difference was there :)
[09:13] <freddy> oh!! IceDC571 !!
[09:13] <freddy> it works!
[09:13] <aCiD2> which repo is gstreamer-faad on?
[09:14] <IceDC571> freddy: what works?
[09:14] <Amaranth> aCiD2: not in ubuntu at all
[09:14] <dennis_> Anyone here use skype?
[09:14] <aCiD2> ah, ok
[09:14] <freddy> IceDC571, the ipod
[09:14] <aCiD2> google time
[09:14] <Amaranth> aCiD2: You need to pluck it from marillat manually.
[09:14] <aCiD2> marillat?
[09:14] <nickrud> ah
[09:14] <dennis_> Noone does ???
[09:14] <Amaranth> google is your friend :)
[09:15] <Amaranth> dennis_: Nope.
[09:15] <dennis_> Hmm
[09:15] <dennis_> WEll
[09:15] <aCiD2> Yea, Im googlin' now :)
[09:15] <dennis_> The skype page gives instructions on how to install RPM and Tar...
[09:15] <dennis_> but not deb
[09:16] <n1k0> hi, anyone knows good python ide?
[09:16] <freddy> http://www.skins.be/framepic.php?id=16611&size=1024
[09:16] <freddy> nice belt
[09:16] <freddy> LOL
[09:16] <Razor-X> hmmm, what's the address for hoary-extras repo?
[09:17] <n1k0> it's allready in /etc/apt/sources.list..just un comment
[09:17] <internat> anyone care to tell me where i can get a copy of the default .config file used for the kernel?
[09:17] <IceDC571> freddy: you have an ipod?
[09:18] <Razor-X> n1k0: oh, that's just universe, and that crap?
[09:18] <dennis_> Anyone here use skype????
[09:18] <dennis_> Anyone?
[09:18] <freddy> IceDC571, yes dude we were talking about it like 2 ours ago O_o
[09:18] <prego> dennis_, I've used it sometimes
[09:18] <dennis_> On ubuntu?
[09:18] <freddy> internat, i...have mine *shrug*
[09:18] <dennis_> prego, mind if I pm you?
[09:18] <prego> dennis_, yeah
[09:18] <freddy> want me to send it or something?
[09:18] <freddy> it is default.
[09:18] <internat> yeah ok
[09:19] <prego> dennis_, wait, i have to look for the micro
[09:19] <n1k0> Razor-X: ou jea..I'm not even sure is there extra repos...mut have you tried backports?
[09:19] <internat> cause frigs me where the helll it is, i cant find it anywhere
[09:19] <nickrud> internat it's in /boot/, named comfig-$(uname -r)
[09:19] <internat> ah
[09:19] <Razor-X> n1k0: of course, of course ;)
[09:19] <n1k0> Razor-X: =)
[09:19] <n1k0> god damn I have lousy english :/
[09:20] <nickrud> and I cant't type worth a damn
[09:20] <internat> hmms ok so its modulieed.. why the frig cant i get my sound card wroking
[09:21] <n1k0> hey everybody, where are you from?
[09:21] <beginnerMKII> hey guys in 'sudo cp speedtch* /lib/hotplug/firmware' whats the * refering to, i don't have speedtch as directory of filename, i'm confused as to what it could be ..
[09:21] <n1k0> Finland
[09:22] <Tomcat__> beginnerMKII: speedtch* matches all filenames and directories that start with speedtch and end in anything.
[09:22] <Tomcat__> n1k0: Germany
[09:22] <freddy> Venezuela
[09:22] <Tomcat__> Oi.
[09:23] <n1k0> =)
[09:23] <freddy> Oi?
[09:23] <nickrud> n1k0 seattle
[09:23] <freddy> you dont like Venezuela or something?
[09:24] <beginnerMKII> Thanks Tomcat
[09:24] <n1k0> no =) I like venezuela :) kind of exotick place
[09:24] <Tomcat__> No, just that Venezuela is one of the countries you don't meet someone from every day. :)
[09:24] <n1k0> exotick = exotic
[09:24] <n1k0> :D
[09:24] <freddy> well nice to meet you guys then
[09:24] <freddy> :)
[09:24] <n1k0> :)
[09:24] <Tomcat__> When you log onto IRC, it's hard *not* to find anyone from Germany, Finland or the US... but Venezuela is different.
[09:25] <internat> anyyone able to tell me a place to configure my creative labs soundcard, i jjust did a clean install and it wont work, but the modules will load if fi modprobe it but still no sound :S
[09:25] <kolas> I have mounted my ext3 /dev/hda5 partition on /mnt/stock, but I would prefer to have it mounted like a volume on the desktop, how to do that ?
[09:25] <Tomcat__> How's the Internet at your place? Broadband available? University? Modem?
[09:25] <freddy> Tomcat__, well here i am :)
[09:25] <freddy> all that
[09:25] <n1k0> all
[09:25] <prego> Hello guys, I'm planning to buy a new computer. Should I choose an AMD 64 or get a P IV?
[09:25] <n1k0> I use broadband
[09:25] <nickrud> kolas you need to make your partition an option user in fstab
[09:25] <n1k0> actually in Finland it's called adsl
[09:25] <freddy> imma at my bed with my laptop Tomcat__ , there is no horses and stuff here
[09:26] <Tomcat__> prego: Depends on your needs, but I suggest the AMD64... got one. :)
[09:26] <aCiD2> could anyone do me a favour and copy the contents of "www.ubuntuforums.org/#codecs" to a pastebin or something? For some reason, I cant access the site
[09:26] <jono> hi all, I added an extra repo in sources.list and have since removed it - how can I search my system for all software installed from that repo?
[09:26] <kolas> nickrud: so, w/dev/hda5       /mnt/stock      ext3    defaults        0       2
[09:26] <Tomcat__> freddy: Yeah I know Venezuela is not that rural, I'm not American... :P But still, many countries don't have broadband.
[09:26] <prego> Tomcat__, I have some questions about AMD64... do you use ubuntu64 or ubuntu32?
[09:26] <kolas> nickrud: sorry, how to change this line then : /dev/hda5       /mnt/stock      ext3    defaults        0       2 ?
[09:26] <Tomcat__> On the other hand, the question was stupid... I got a relative in Chile, and he has broadband. :o
[09:27] <freddy> Tomcat__, ;) you thought we had horses, tell the truth
[09:27] <nickrud> kolas 'defaults,user' is the only change you should need i think
[09:27] <n1k0> no girls here? ;) ;)
[09:27] <internat> anyone?
[09:27] <Tomcat__> prego: 32... there are no 64-bit binaries for Flash and w32codecs.
[09:27] <kolas> nickrud: thanks
[09:27] <prego> freddy, horses carrying hard drives as broadband?
[09:27] <freddy> n1k0, they are not that easy
[09:27] <nickrud> kolas that's from memory, I think it works
[09:27] <n1k0> :D
[09:27] <freddy> prego, yeah hehe
[09:27] <prego> Tomcat__, but I can dual boot, and so on... can't I?
[09:28] <Tomcat__> freddy: Maybe your farmers... not in the cities though... I've seen enough latin american cities. :P
[09:28] <Tomcat__> prego: Sure.
[09:28] <freddy> haha
[09:28] <n1k0> Just thinking how many girls would be here in #ubuntu
[09:28] <n1k0> :D
[09:28] <freddy> no seriously, there was an epidemy and we have no horses anymore :(
[09:28] <prego> Tomcat__, and what about that "chroot" mess I 've heard about...
[09:28] <prego> freddy, :-((
[09:28] <freddy> haha
[09:28] <Tomcat__> prego: Details? I'm not sure what you mean.
[09:28] <freddy> ;)
[09:28] <kolas> nickrud: it means that it would appear on any user's desktop, and being read-writable, right ?
[09:28] <n1k0> coffee break
[09:29] <freddy> prego, j/k :P
[09:29] <freddy> i dont know where to get a horse in my own country tho
[09:29] <freddy> lol
[09:29] <prego> Tomcat__, as I've heard of, you can still use ubuntu64 and run there flash and w32codecs under chroot environment (If only I knew what does that mean....)
[09:30] <nickrud> kolas without testing it again, yes I do believe that is correct
[09:30] <Tomcat__> prego: chroot means changing your / mounted filesystem temporarily to another place... mh....
[09:30] <freddy> i need to see something bizarre...
[09:30] <freddy> im bored
[09:30] <prego> Tomcat__, perhaps that guys do two installs and chroot to the other one... I don't know
[09:30] <freddy> HOLY SHIAT
[09:31] <Tomcat__> prego: Actually, that's not a bad idea... if you have an Ubuntu32 for example in /u32... then you could chroot to /u32 and load w32codecs there, because it would use 32 bit libs...
[09:31] <jono> anyone have any problems using lame with grip?
[09:31] <prego> Tomcat__, btw you are satisfied with 32 bit perfornance of the AMD64?
[09:31] <nickrud> kolas hm, actually, I think it would be read writeable to the original mounter, actually
[09:31] <freddy> 433 ppl in this room and im the only one from venezuela? that saxs :(
[09:31] <Tomcat__> prego: I have never seen the 64 bit performance... so no idea really. When I got time I'll install a 64 bit next to it.
[09:32] <nickrud> actually :)
[09:32] <Tomcat__> prego: The speed in one CPU-intensive app only about doubled from my old K7 1700+ to my new AMD64 3000+... so I'm not really satisfied.
[09:32] <prego> Tomcat__, nice!
[09:32] <freddy> no, not nice.
[09:33] <freddy> not satisfied = not good
[09:33] <eyequeue> freddy:  i guess the ratio may be different in #ubuntu-es maybe?
[09:33] <HrdwrBoB> telemaco: telemaco the K7 would be 1.7ghz right?
[09:33] <HrdwrBoB> er tomcat
[09:33] <internat> tutorials, soundcards anyone?
[09:33] <Tomcat__> HrdwrBoB: No, 1700+ is about 1.4 to 1.5 GHz.
[09:33] <HrdwrBoB> and the 3000+ is in fact 1.8ghz
[09:33] <HrdwrBoB> so the speed increase is huge
[09:33] <freddy> eyequeue, i hate getting support or talking about linux in spanish...i cant find myself thru it
[09:33] <IceDC571> freddy: do you have any aac's on your ipod?
[09:33] <HrdwrBoB> the 1700+ and 3000+ is a relative measure
[09:33] <prego> Tomcat__, freddy still sleeping, sorry... :-P
[09:34] <Tomcat__> Well if you're comparing the frequencies, yes, but I doubt a 64 3000+ is only twice as fast as a K7 1700+ :)
[09:34] <freddy> what the heck is an aac? IceDC571, and why do you take 3 hours to answer? :P
[09:34] <eyequeue> freddy:  well, you're certainly welcome in here, and i'll guess your english is better than my spanish
[09:34] <IceDC571> freddy: sorry, im talking to some girls
[09:34] <freddy> oh
[09:34] <IceDC571> freddy: aac/mp4/m4a
[09:34] <freddy> girls are better then me for sure
[09:34] <HrdwrBoB> Tomcat__: .. the 300+ is a RELATIVE MEASURE
[09:34] <eyequeue> priorities, heh
[09:34] <HrdwrBoB> 3000+
[09:34] <freddy> eyequeue, i hope im welcome
[09:35] <HrdwrBoB> also, you have the slowest a64 you can currently buy
[09:35] <HrdwrBoB> what do you expect?
[09:35] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB a question: all things relative, is it worth my money buying a 64bit top end, or staying with a 32bit top end?
[09:35] <freddy> i dont want to be aside because im from south america :(
[09:35] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: the athlon64 is well worth buying, I have a 3200+
[09:36] <Mihai_> I need help for mounting a fat32 partition in ubuntu
[09:36] <nickrud> do you run 64bit, and do you have a chroot for the 32 bit stuff?
[09:36] <HrdwrBoB> nope
[09:36] <prego> HrdwrBoB, but then an XP+ 3,4 which MHz actually runs?
[09:36] <Mihai_> I've tryed with mount and I've crashed the system
[09:36] <eyequeue> freddy:  no way, you're an ubuntu user, and it doesn't matter if you're from (sud)america or south ... africa, (like a number of the developers) heh
[09:36] <Juhaz> nickrud, it's not worth your money to buy _any_ top-end, go for the mid-range 64-bit and it's vastly faster than 32-bit top end and vastly cheaper than 64 bit top end
[09:37] <Mihai_> can this be done from somewhere in the menu?
[09:37] <Tomcat__> HrdwrBoB: I *know*... I'm not saying "Oh well (3000 - 1700) / 1700 = 0.76 so it should be 1.76 as fast..."... I'm saying "A new CPU should be more than twice as fast as a CPU that is 5 years old".
[09:37] <freddy> eyequeue, oh well thanks man :) fair enough
[09:37] <Hoxzer> how do I active my  connection in console?
[09:37] <HrdwrBoB> Tomcat__: they are.
[09:37] <HrdwrBoB> Tomcat__: you bought the cheapest CPU in the range.
[09:37] <Tomcat__> Well, then I'm right - I'm not satisfied. :)
[09:37] <Hoxzer> my fucking mom shutdown my shell server AARGH
[09:38] <Madpilot> Tomcat__: it's not just raw Ghz. FSB speed & much else has improved as well in the last 5yrs.
[09:38] <freddy> eyequeue, but its like im the only one from south america here, and i spose youve heard about southamericans are seeing around the world
[09:38] <prego> Hoxzer, hey boy honor your mom a little bit, since she grew you up! :-P
[09:38] <Hoxzer> :P
[09:38] <Tomcat__> Madpilot: Exactly, that's why I'm not calculating any difference... I only think an age difference of 4 to 5 years should be more than a double in performance.
[09:38] <freddy> eyequeue, thats why sometimes i hate where i come from... :(
[09:38] <Tomcat__> So I guess it's the fact I'm running a 32 bit system.
[09:38] <nickrud> but, my question really revolves around getting the 32bit stuff on a 64 bit system. And, since I have not had any chance to keep over the last 6 montsh
[09:38] <Hoxzer> but hey, how do I active eth0?
[09:39] <Mihai_> can someone help me edit my /etc/fstab?
[09:39] <Hoxzer> in console
[09:39] <yuacht> Mihai_, sure
[09:39] <Tomcat__> But I've never done a good benchmark anyway... only comparing climateprediction speeds.
[09:39] <peterretief> hey all, how do I install irectly from a deb?
[09:39] <eyequeue> freddy:  only one *currently* from s.a. ... earier i was talking with someone needing 300 cds for an installfest (!!!) and he was in .br :)
[09:39] <Tomcat__> peterretief: sudo dpkg -i <blah>.deb
[09:39] <HrdwrBoB> I use a 32 bit install on a 64bit CPU
[09:39] <Mihai_> yuacht, I whant to automount a fat32 particion which is on /dev/hda2
[09:39] <eyequeue> peterretief:  dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:39] <iluciv> hi
[09:39] <peterretief> thansk Tomcat__
[09:39] <HrdwrBoB> the 64 bit system isn't that much faster
[09:39] <Mihai_> yuacht, I've tryed mount from the command line and I've crashed the system
[09:39] <freddy> jesus christ
[09:40] <freddy> 300 cds
[09:40] <Juhaz> Tomcat__, that doesn't really make any sense, you can still get the very same 1700+, should it have doubled in speed as well, just because you purchase it later?
[09:40] <nickrud> hm, so, 32 bit is still the best bet so far, you think.
[09:40] <freddy> i just orderer 2
[09:40] <yuacht> Mihai_, hmm, wait
[09:40] <freddy> lol
[09:40] <peterretief> eyequeue, also thansk
[09:40] <freddy> eyequeue, you are a developer?
[09:40] <peterretief> :)
[09:40] <Hoxzer> hey, plz?
[09:40] <iluciv> has any-one used dvb-utils much
[09:40] <eyequeue> freddy:  yeah really, i'ev only done maybe 50 here (north america) and that was combined linux and bsds
[09:40] <eyequeue> peterretief:  np
[09:41] <eyequeue> freddy: no, just another user :)
[09:41] <freddy> oh hehe
[09:41] <Tomcat__> Juhaz: Is nobody here understanding what I'm saying? I bought a CPU that has technology 5 years younger than the last CPU... I know Moore's law doesn't really apply anymore, but shouldn't the technology make the CPU more than twice as fast?
[09:41] <HrdwrBoB> Tomcat__: it's an invalid comparison
[09:41] <HrdwrBoB> because you didn't buy the same level of CPU
[09:41] <Hoxzer> how do I unactive and active eth0?
[09:41] <Tomcat__> Maybe yes.
[09:41] <Hoxzer> in console
[09:41] <nickrud> so, to keep on the cutting edge (not bleeding) 32bit on 64bit is still the most productive, then
[09:41] <HrdwrBoB> five years ago a 1.4ghz cpu was not bottom of the range
[09:42] <eyequeue> Hoxzer:  sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[09:42] <unome> are you expecting 64 to be fast with 32 based apps? AMD 64 running at 1.8 (old athlonxp 2100+) owns an Intel chip running at 3ghz
[09:42] <Juhaz> Tomcat__, it's not like that 3000+ was invented yesterday, it's two years old as well
[09:42] <kolas> nickrud: it didn't work
[09:42] <Tomcat__> Well, maybe. :) As I said, I have to do a good benchmark anyway... any suggestions?
[09:42] <feugan3333> Hi all. What is the correct file to set environment variables for all users of my system. Is it /etc/profile?
[09:42] <MolochOwl> tomcat...not really...Gaming and Graphic Design/vidio editing are the only major segments driving the market for more speed.
[09:42] <IceDC571> freddy: do you play any m4a's from rhythmbox?
[09:42] <freddy> IceDC571, no i dont have, i just have mp3s
[09:43] <bigfoot1> what happens if you tell Xchat to "use a proxy server" (X-chat-->Server List-->Edit)?
[09:43] <IceDC571> freddy: good because m4a playback is really crappy
[09:43] <freddy> IceDC571, damn
[09:43] <nickrud> kolas yes.
[09:43] <freddy> IceDC571, you are just starting to try ipod on ubuntu?
[09:43] <MolochOwl> I have a 3000+64 too...i'm really happy with it
[09:43] <prego> Hoxzer, ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0
[09:43] <freddy> i already have all my list and crap
[09:44] <IceDC571> freddy: no, i've tried it for a couple weeks.. mp3 on ipod is the best you can get
[09:44] <bigfoot1> Hey everyone. does everybody here make use of internet technology and make free phone calls over the net? If so, what would you recommend?
[09:44] <GURT> skype
[09:44] <nickrud> My thinking was for a single user, I'm not sure how to make a partition show up on the gnome-desktop for every user on a box
[09:44] <prego> Hoxzer, also, the high end command: ifconfig ..... but lots of details there...
[09:44] <freddy> and jesus, i found an awesome tutorial to make a flash card to sync with an specifyc directory...
[09:44] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  i don't myself, but i'd recommend the h323 protocol (apt-cache search h323)
[09:44] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: do you mean calling from the computer or VOIP?
[09:45] <freddy> IceDC571, oh you mean the m4a playback ON the ipod is crappy?
[09:45] <freddy> i thought you meant in linux.
[09:45] <kolas> nickrud: do you know another solution ?
[09:45] <IceDC571> freddy: yes using rhythmbox to play m4a's on the ipod
[09:45] <bigfoot1> IceDC571, what's the difference? I have only a computer. I don't have any other special gadgets, if that's what you mean.
[09:45] <nickrud> kolas no.
[09:45] <freddy> ah ok
[09:45] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: ohh.. have you heard of skype?
[09:46] <freddy> i want jennifer garner on my bed :(
[09:46] <prego> bigfoot1, skype deserves a try.
[09:46] <IceDC571> freddy: its just a sync problem.. its pauses at random times but if you play m4a's on the computer its fine
[09:46] <IceDC571> freddy: lol too bad she's married
[09:46] <iluciv> bigfoot: www.voip-info.org/ and take your pick :)
[09:46] <nickrud> kolas gnome (as I use it, and as ubuntu defines it in 5.04) is not built for easy use by multiple users on one machine.
[09:46] <IceDC571> freddy: wait it dont matter if shes married, go get her!
[09:47] <freddy> IceDC571, hahaha
[09:47] <prego> IceDC571, I don't see the how to sync so she comes to ones bed
[09:47] <freddy> IceDC571, so the playback on the computer is just fine
[09:47] <nickrud> kolas and I hope to be contradicted ;)
[09:47] <IceDC571> freddy: yep, its just a new ipod bug they could sqaush in the next few months
[09:48] <IceDC571> and i was like, maybe i need to enable DMA on my ipod!! but then you cant enable dma on usb devices, can you?
[09:48] <u-sun> hi all
[09:48] <freddy> nop from what i know of
[09:49] <bigfoot1> iluciv, i don't want to buy any other gadgets.
[09:49] <u-sun> i am trying to run 'pd' and i getthese errors
[09:49] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: yeah.. have you heard of skype?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> iluciv, IceDC571: When we say "voip" do we mean buying special gadgets?
[09:49] <u-sun> LSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[09:49] <u-sun> Segmentation fault
[09:49] <u-sun> u1sun@u-sun:~$ pd_gui: pd process exited
[09:49] <u-sun> how do i fix this?
[09:50] <iluciv> bigfoot1 :well all you need is microphone and speakers for any of it
[09:50] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: lets drop VOIP since it requires special gadgets.. now i see what you want
[09:50] <freddy> THE FRICKING SKYPE
[09:50] <kolas> How to allow an ext3 partition to be mounted like an USB memory, or like a CD ?
[09:50] <freddy> pay attention!!
[09:50] <iluciv> yeah skypes ok
[09:50] <poningru> I had question about canonical how does it provide funds? leach off of shuttleworth? or Support for Ubuntu?
[09:50] <mihai_> help. the pc crashes when I try to mount a fat32 partition
[09:50] <bigfoot1> iluciv, for any voip solution, all you need are a mic and speakers?
[09:50] <poningru> err generate funds would be better word
[09:50] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  gnomemeeting uses an open protocol, mand there's skype which was mentioned that is proprietary
[09:51] <bigfoot1> IceDC571, please confirm: all you need for any VOIP solution is mic and speakers?
[09:51] <internat> surely someone knows a good howto for installing ur soundcard.. cause frigsg me whhy mine isnt working
[09:51] <iluciv> well maybe not every single one but many  thats all they require sure
[09:51] <poningru> bigfoot1: yes
[09:51] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  headphones are wise to prevent feedback
[09:51] <bigfoot1> eyequeue, but gnomemeeting needs both parties to be using gnomemeeting right?
[09:51] <iluciv> internat: what type is it
[09:51] <poningru> bigfoot1: no
[09:51] <prego> bigfoot1, note that you may only call freely to other computers
[09:52] <poningru> any client using H.323 is fine
[09:52] <internat> creative live 5.1 sb live, emu10k1x
[09:52] <freddy> internat, chipset
[09:52] <poningru> so anyone had an answer to my question
[09:52] <bigfoot1> my friend is using a windows pc. what does he need for me and him to call each other on the internet?
[09:52] <nickrud> poningru I read once that canonical intends to make money teaching people to provide support for ubuntu installations, small and large.
[09:52] <bigfoot1> what software should he get?
[09:52] <internat> freddy: creative live 5.1 sb live, emu10k1x
[09:52] <Hoxzer> llllll
[09:53] <freddy> O_o
[09:53] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  well, no, it does require both parties to be using the same protocol though.  i'm told there's some other *meeting app available for those stuck on an ms platform though, for example
[09:53] <poningru> netmeeting should do fine iirc
[09:53] <internat> suggestionos? i would have thought ubuntu would have detected it on startup and install.. but no it didnt
[09:53] <prego> bigfoot1, try skype, runs in win, linux, OS-X and is pretty easy to use
[09:53] <poningru> these answers are on there faq bigfoot1
[09:53] <bigfoot1> iluciv, and many of these voip solutions are free?
[09:53] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  he would need that other *meeting app, and a headset and net connection
[09:54] <poningru> prego: please dont recomend skype its not oss
[09:54] <nickrud> I'd love to see a business plan
[09:54] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  yeah, netmeeting it was
[09:54] <iluciv> bigfoot1: go skype its a no brainer to install go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:54] <poningru> when other oss things exist
[09:54] <prego> poningru, heh, he is goint to talk to a non oss btw.
[09:54] <iluciv> the voip protocol is free
[09:54] <IceDC571> well skype has its own support, which is free.. i dont see why we shouldn't mention it
[09:54] <poningru> iluciv: the skype protocol is not
[09:54] <poningru> it is proprietry
[09:54] <internat> iluciv: any suggestions?
[09:54] <iluciv> skype out is not
[09:54] <eyequeue> IceDC571:  not free, it is just not money
[09:54] <bigfoot1> poningru, which faq?
[09:55] <poningru> the gnomemeeting faq
[09:55] <poningru> hold on let me link you to it
[09:55] <freddy> skype is free
[09:55] <IceDC571> i hate that skype for linux was built on Qt
[09:55] <eyequeue> IceDC571:  free means freedom in this channel
[09:55] <IceDC571> eyequeue: okay, i'll keep that in mind, thank you
[09:55] <poningru> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0
[09:55] <prego> IceDC571, use plastik theme in QT and clearlooks in GTk...
[09:55] <poningru> bigfoot1: did you catch that
[09:55] <eyequeue> IceDC571:  i hope i said that friendly-ly :)
[09:56] <poningru> nickrud: are they not doing support themselves?
[09:56] <freddy> i still dont get the skype issue
[09:56] <poningru> freddy: skype is not free as in freedom
[09:56] <internat> skype is good.. i dont midn it, i use it a bit
[09:56] <bigfoot1> eyequeue, yes, for me free means no money necessary. 8-)
[09:56] <IceDC571> is the US free as in freedom? lol
[09:56] <eyequeue> freddy:  capsule summary: they use closed protocols, so no open source apps can be written to interface with them
[09:56] <freddy> lol
[09:57] <iluciv> internat: whats your dmesg say
[09:57] <bigfoot1> poningru, thanks for the faq link
[09:57] <poningru> np
[09:57] <freddy> gotcha
[09:57] <IceDC571> eyequeue: yeah i see what your saying, they dont give the source code out too
[09:57] <eyequeue> freddy:  today they charge for "skype out" but nothing prevents them from charging for everything some day, if they get enough users
[09:57] <nickrud> poningru, well, I get plenty of support myself, already. Just how they get my money, well, I guess I'll have to donate
[09:57] <IceDC571> after all its from the users of kazaa, so beware! lol
[09:57] <IceDC571> makers*
[09:58] <Tomcat__> !
[09:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Tomcat__
[09:58] <internat> nothing at all
[09:58] <poningru> the thing is our donations go to bounty not to the company
[09:58] <internat> about the soundcard that is
[09:58] <poningru> the company does not take donations supposedly
[09:58] <nickrud> poningru really? I find that rather pleasing
[09:58] <poningru> I know right
[09:58] <nickrud> a very pleasing idea
[09:58] <poningru> I have never felt this way about a corp.
[09:58] <MolochOwl> grrr is there a command I can just enter in the terminal (i didn't install a GUI) to stop the damn that from beeping everytime I hit the end of a line?
[09:58] <bigfoot1> actually, i do have skype installed.
[09:59] <bigfoot1> it's working fine.
[09:59] <poningru> I wished I could help canonical someway
[09:59] <iluciv> internat: hangone I'm having a look its odd cause its should be a well supported card
[09:59] <poningru> unfotunately I am no where near Mann
[09:59] <bigfoot1> but i was looking for an alternative. ONe that can at least includes an answering machine feature.
[09:59] <internat> thats what i thought, but it aint working :S
[09:59] <hondje> For the record, I hate reading latex docs
[09:59] <internat> modprobe loads the drivers etc, but the rest shits itself
[09:59] <poningru> bigfoot1: go to sourceforge and search for 'voip'
[09:59] <hondje> If anyone cared at all
[09:59] <bigfoot1> And I don't want to pay skype any money for their answering machine feature.
[10:00] <poningru> there are many clients that will pop up
[10:00] <poningru> that have answering machine feature
[10:00] <poningru> and allow vid conf as well
[10:00] <eyequeue> poningru:  actually, even if they don't want your money, you can help.  help them accomplish what they set out to do, help people in #ubuntu :)  write documentattion, whatever :)
[10:00] <iluciv> have you tried it in another box ie windows :S to see if is not a hardware error
[10:00] <MolochOwl> will pulling the speaker wire damage the motherboard it i don't shut it off?
[10:00] <IceDC571> all i need is an open source VOIP company to replace my phone line and i'm set :)
[10:00] <poningru> eyequeue: unfortunately I am not technically savvy
[10:00] <poningru> I try
[10:01] <poningru> but I am sometimes a hinderence
[10:01] <poningru> not helpful
[10:01] <eyequeue> openam - H.323 answering machine
[10:01] <eyequeue> openmcu - H.323 conferencing server
[10:01] <eyequeue> both ubuntu apps btw
[10:01] <nickrud> lol, we all learn from our egregious errors
[10:01] <kryl> salut
[10:01] <poningru> well you dont need a server since many voip clients now allow peer-to-peer
[10:02] <poningru> not just peer-server-peer
[10:02] <kryl> qu'es qu'il existe pour ajouter supprimer des services au demarrage et  l'extinction du systeme ?
[10:02] <poningru> just using H.323
[10:02] <IceDC571> is evolution really free?
[10:02] <internat> i get a message from artsmessage sayingg the device wasnt found.. dont know fi that helps or not
[10:02] <poningru> isnt it?
[10:02] <freddy> development Status Alpha :(
[10:02] <internat> default cant be opened for playback, no such device
[10:03] <kryl> ops
[10:03] <kryl> sorry
[10:03] <hyphenated> I use skype for making voip calls. it's not open-source, but it works well enough for me
[10:03] <nickrud> well, I don't think that gould patented it
[10:03] <eyequeue> kryl:  #ubuntu-fr ?
[10:03] <jgotangco> evolution is free
[10:03] <kryl> is there any tools to add or remove daemons from the boot sequence ?
[10:03] <IceDC571> yeah i sure hope it is
[10:03] <freddy> and the last version of voip was released in May 31 2002, shieet
[10:03] <iluciv> internat: was teh card in when you installed ubuntu?
[10:03] <eyequeue> kryl: yes, 'man update-rc.d' for details
[10:03] <internat> yep
[10:04] <kryl> k
[10:04] <iluciv> Internat:have you tried mopobing in the modules in
[10:04] <IceDC571> libdvdcss is illegal in my country and i use it :)
[10:04] <internat> yep
[10:04] <iluciv> modprobing
[10:04] <nickrud> kryl look at the files in rc2.d, and rcS.d. those are the boot sequence. you probaly don't want to change much
[10:04] <internat> modprobe snd_emu10k1x etc.. nothing happening
[10:04] <poningru> if any proggramers here are not happy with evolution please consider contributing to calendar: irc.mozilla.org #calendar
[10:04] <iluciv> what happens when you do that
[10:04] <internat> the drivers appear in lsmod but thats it
[10:04] <IceDC571> freddy: what you up to?
[10:05] <eyequeue> poningru:  sunbird?
[10:05] <poningru> yeah
[10:05] <freddy> IceDC571, checking voip
[10:05] <freddy> and the last version
[10:05] <poningru> well not the standalone version
[10:05] <internat> am i mean tot restart something after modprobing for stuff to work, or?
[10:05] <iluciv> only with 0 next to them or are they linked
[10:05] <freddy> 2002 =/
[10:05] <eyequeue> poningru:  i keep hoping for > 0.2, heh
[10:05] <poningru> sunbird is the standalone version
[10:05] <kryl> there isn't any graphic tools ? :)
[10:05] <poningru> hehe it will come
[10:05] <freddy> IceDC571, you?
[10:05] <kryl> no pb about that it is a simple question update-rc.d seems to be sufficient
[10:06] <poningru> he is one of the devs
[10:06] <internat> 0
[10:06] <iluciv> does anyone here use dvb-utils at all
[10:06] <eyequeue> kryl:  i don't know of gui, but there may be something.  never looked further than what worked here, heh
[10:07] <IceDC571> freddy: checking gnomemeeting hah..
[10:07] <IceDC571> gnome meeting can make pc to phone calls? is it free?
[10:07] <jino> hi all...
[10:07] <internat> how do i make something link to it?
[10:07] <freddy> IceDC571, lol
[10:07] <eyequeue> gnomemeeting is free
[10:07] <iluciv> internat: man I don't know you must be missing a module
[10:08] <freddy> can i make free phone calls with gnomemeeting?
[10:08] <nickrud> Kyral rcconf, sysvconfig and sysv-rc-conf, but they're all ncuurses, not really gui
[10:08] <jino> i have ordered  a few ubuntu cds from support site..but it has never come..
[10:08] <internat> but i just did the install today, from an image i downloaded today..
[10:08] <eyequeue> gnomemeeting (1)     - H.323 Videoconferencing for UN*X
[10:08] <MolochOwl> what do you add to a command to make the help/info file pause while scrolling?
[10:08] <jino> any idea?
[10:08] <Amaranth> you cna't make free phone calls with anything
[10:08] <IceDC571> jino: you have to wait a few months, they come really
[10:08] <freddy> Amaranth, lol
[10:08] <IceDC571> haha Amaranth
[10:08] <Amaranth> you can talk to other computer users with skype and gnomemeeting (not compatible with each other)
[10:08] <iluciv> internat: have you read the Ubuntu forums at all
[10:08] <internat> i dont know what modules i could be possibly missing its all installed
[10:09] <freddy> well...pretend :P
[10:09] <internat> yeah i went looking, and read a few things but nothing that helped
[10:09] <jino> IceDC571, ist ? am waiting for the last couple of months.
[10:09] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  [color]  boxes are not discussed here, heh
[10:09] <cafuego> Bah. 'ytalk' is all you need.
[10:09] <IceDC571> jino: it came 3-4 months for me
[10:09] <Amaranth> blue boxes?
[10:09] <Amaranth> those haven't worked in a _long_ time
[10:09] <u-sun> i have problems installing pd
[10:09] <u-sun> can you let me know how i can do this
[10:10] <iluciv> you got onboard sound??
[10:10] <freddy> oh i remember reading about the boxes a lot
[10:10] <freddy> never understood anything
[10:10] <freddy> phreak crack hack...bah...
[10:10] <benplaut> \quit "goodnight everyone"
[10:10] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  mostly joking, but i've lived is some areas with pathetic switches (21k max connections with v32 at both ends)
[10:11] <benplaut> darn, did it again
[10:11] <freddy> prostitutes..linux....food..sleep...enough for me :D
[10:11] <IceDC571> what the hell is a surname?
[10:11] <freddy> lastname IceDC571
[10:11] <jino> does ubuntu work well with hp laptops..?
[10:11] <IceDC571> oh.. thank you freddy..
[10:11] <internat> nope
[10:11] <eyequeue> Amaranth: made me wonder if drapers 2600 whistle would work, heh
[10:11] <kryl> I'm searching if there is a command to show status of a daemon in the boot with update-rc.d I dont see anything in the man about that thing
[10:11] <internat> well i had onboard sound, its disabled.. and has been for months
[10:11] <Amaranth> hehe
[10:12] <freddy> IceDC571, like my surname is Rivero Bravo...and my name is Freddy Daniel
[10:12] <iluciv> internat:have a quick look at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix
[10:12] <IceDC571> freddy: oookay lol
[10:12] <freddy> haha
[10:13] <cafuego> freddy: Not drag queen name. Family name.
[10:13] <freddy> does ubuntu work well with toshiba laptops?
[10:13] <freddy> lmfao
[10:14] <freddy> thats my real name you bast
[10:14] <freddy> haha
[10:14] <cafuego> freddy: Freddy Daniel Rivero bravo?
[10:14] <cafuego> Sheesh
[10:14] <freddy> yup
[10:14] <freddy> haha
[10:14] <cafuego> Your parents must do a lot of drugs ;-)
[10:14] <freddy> haha
[10:14] <poningru> freddy: yeah it works pretty well in my friends comp
[10:14] <nickrud> Kyral invoke-rc.d <thing> status, if it's implemented
[10:14] <poningru> err toshiba lappy
[10:14] <cafuego> freddy: Is your first name 'Freddy' or 'Freddy Daniel' ?
[10:15] <cafuego> (See also: middle name)
[10:15] <freddy> cafuego, Freddy
[10:15] <iluciv> internat: then this guide in the forums should help if you use that driver I guess http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=SB+5.1
[10:15] <cafuego> Eh-heh, if I pat the cat she burps
[10:15] <freddy> cafuego, it sounds diferent down here in south america :D
[10:15] <IceDC571> gnomemeeting is making me pay to call to a phone!! so much for free as in freedom!! grr..
[10:15] <cafuego> freddy: I'd hope so ;-)
[10:15] <freddy> :P
[10:16] <cafuego> Sounds brazilian
[10:16] <cafuego> (protugese)
[10:16] <freddy> hehe venezuelan
[10:16] <nickrud> heh, my 8 week old alley cat just bit me to get the meat
[10:16] <freddy> but reaaaally close
[10:16] <IceDC571> nickrud: a real cat? or like a girl?
[10:16] <iluciv> internat: it would be funny if you just had to unmute the alsamix in terminal type sudo alsamixer
[10:16] <nickrud> a cat, an alley cat :)
[10:16] <IceDC571> sudo alsamixer?? lol
[10:16] <cafuego> freddy: Venezula is spanish speaking though, innit?
[10:17] <freddy> yup
[10:17] <IceDC571> more like only typing alsamixer unless you want to change the root's mixer
[10:17] <cafuego> ok, just checking :-)
[10:17] <iluciv> IceDC571; ?
[10:17] <IceDC571> uhh.. nevermind i was talking about the cat
[10:18] <IceDC571> nickrud: do you have any pics of the cat?
[10:18] <freddy> IceDC571, do we have to have tits and pussies to be able to talk to you? sheeeesss....
[10:18] <u-sun> ANYOne know about PD?
[10:18] <IceDC571> freddy: no, you dont need a sex change to talk to me.. thank you
[10:18] <nickrud> yes, but, I don't have a scanner at the moment, gotta fit it into this houses budget.
[10:18] <freddy> HAHA
[10:19] <IceDC571> i love kitties!
[10:19] <freddy> IceDC571, what are you up to?
[10:19] <thenuke> I would like to change some sex with someone :I
[10:19] <iluciv> I had a problem with sound in kubuntu and an old gateway 2000 computer alsamix was muted did that and it worked for all users so umm ??
[10:19] <nickrud> but, it's black, except for the 4 or 5 hairs on the chest that makes it not quite black
[10:19] <IceDC571> freddy: i'm um... trying to find out why my gnome looks so ugly right now
[10:19] <freddy> thenuke, lol
[10:20] <freddy> IceDC571, screenshawt?
[10:20] <freddy> i made mine look awesome with a tutorial in the forums
[10:20] <poningru> I had a suggestion for the root and gnome sudo thingy
[10:20] <freddy> mostly the fonts
[10:20] <poningru> why not change the color of the window when you switch to sudo
[10:20] <poningru> err root
[10:21] <jino> IceDC571, does ubuntu work well wid a laptop , an hp make..?
[10:21] <poningru> jino: yes it does
[10:21] <poningru> using compaq right now
[10:21] <poningru> works very well
[10:21] <prego> poningru, latest gnome releases tend to shade the screen except for the password window.
[10:21] <poningru> oh wow
[10:21] <poningru> did not know that
[10:21] <freddy> jino, toshiba satellite here..works perfect.
[10:22] <prego> poningru, see foresight linux screenshots
[10:22] <eyequeue> poningru:  applications > system tools > root terminal
[10:23] <prego> poningru, http://www.foresightlinux.com/screenshots/index.php?image=sudo_prompt.png
[10:23] <eyequeue> poningru:  edit > current profile > colors ... i set it to red on black, and it stays that way
[10:23] <chez> can someone PLEASE help me out with my pen drive I can't write to it as or chmod it despite being the owner and the permissions being 700 - someone said I way have to change my hotplug settings - no idea how to do that
[10:23] <IceDC571> freddy: http://home.comcast.net/~sexycatsinhats/Screenshot.png
[10:24] <IceDC571> freddy: i have ie and itunes :) lol
[10:24] <prego> chez, check the thing has not a switch
[10:24] <prego> chez, a lock I mean...
[10:24] <freddy> IceDC571, damn! how?
[10:24] <poningru> sorry not running breezy yet
[10:25] <freddy> IceDC571, and i see you made the fonts tweaking too
[10:25] <iluciv> dvb-utils anyone??
[10:25] <Hoxzer> Can somebody give me shell accounts for irssi for just one day?
[10:26] <Hoxzer> I want to use Qnet
[10:26] <thenuke> try mirc :)
[10:26] <thenuke> or xchat
[10:26] <IceDC571> why are we suggesting mirc?
[10:26] <poningru> use xchat
[10:26] <poningru> no mirc
[10:26] <poningru> crappy
[10:27] <jino> freddy , the laptop has only 256 mb ram , will that suit..?
[10:27] <Hoxzer> Thenuke: god damnit! :D
[10:27] <Hoxzer> I cant from herer
[10:27] <chez> prego: it does have a lock - but when the lock is on it on't let me make any changes to the pendrive. When the lock is off I can drag stuff into the drive and add documents etc but the next time I unplug/plug it in the things I added won't be there
[10:27] <nickrud> kittens do love chicken
[10:27] <IceDC571> freddy: um, havent you heard of wine?
[10:27] <Hoxzer> My fucking mom shutdown my shell server
[10:27] <IceDC571> freddy: lets see a ss of yours
[10:27] <Hoxzer> and she dunno how to restart it?
[10:27] <freddy> jino, the toshiba here is only 256
[10:27] <Hoxzer> so fucking idiot
[10:27] <Hoxzer> I fucking hate her
[10:27] <prego> chez, are you unmounting the volume or just taking it off??????
[10:27] <Hoxzer> aargh
[10:27] <Hoxzer> fuck fuck
[10:27] <IceDC571> Hoxzer: um... alrighty then
[10:28] <chez> prego: just pulling the pen drive out - thought it would unmount automatically
[10:28] <jino> okie
[10:28] <hyphenated> chez: you're just pulling it out willy-nilly aren't you. you need to unmount it
[10:28] <prego> chez, no!
[10:28] <Hoxzer> and I lost my lunch time >_<'
[10:28] <prego> chez, unless you specify proper options at mounting
[10:28] <hyphenated> it does unmount automagically but it doesn't sync the data! :-)
[10:28] <poningru> chez: dear god no
[10:28] <freddy> IceDC571, http://www.deviantart.com/view/20220805/
[10:28] <chez> prego: well that lame :)
[10:28] <Hoxzer> god damnit she is fucking idiot
[10:28] <prego> chez, if you add a file and remove it quickly, the OS does nothing...
[10:28] <jsgotangco> hey no cursing
[10:29] <jino> freddy , how do i upgrade it, its under warranty, so i cant do it on my own..
[10:29] <eyequeue> sync (8)             - synchronize data on disk with memory
[10:29] <eyequeue> sync (1)             - flush filesystem buffers
[10:29] <eyequeue> sync (3posix)        - schedule file system updates
[10:29] <eyequeue> sync (2)             - commit buffer cache to disk
[10:29] <Hoxzer> She is going to give me 30e for this for sure
[10:29] <eyequeue> oops. sorry
[10:29] <chez> prego: I fugure it may be some thing like that
[10:29] <Hoxzer> if not im going to steal it
[10:29] <prego> chez, please note that you have the "unmount volume" at the contextual menu on the device icon at the desktop
[10:29] <Hoxzer> becouse I can
[10:29] <Hoxzer> 't connect to qnet
[10:29] <Hoxzer> via webchat
[10:29] <Hoxzer> wich realy sucks
[10:29] <IceDC571> freddy: ooo.. nice theme, i see you use streamtuner too
[10:30] <prego> chez, same applies to old disc drives...
[10:30] <freddy> streamtuner is awesome
[10:30] <IceDC571> i was wondering why xmms wont play my stations
[10:30] <internat> iluciv sorry went afk, umm alsamixer wont start, says funtion blah failed for default: no such device
[10:30] <IceDC571> like if i add a location it does nothing without streamtuner
[10:30] <freddy> IceDC571, look at the convo in the irssi screen
[10:30] <freddy> lol
[10:30] <chez> prego: so computer > usbdsk> right clcik unmount voume
[10:31] <chez> prego: right?
[10:31] <prego> chez, don't you see a desktop icon for the usb disk?
[10:31] <IceDC571> freddy: lol! why are you in a mandrake chat?
[10:31] <IceDC571> freddy: what do you talk about dependencies all day there?
[10:31] <WMCoolmon> anyone here have experience getting hl2 to work in ubuntu?
[10:31] <chez> prego: yeah - I can just unm0ount it there can't I
[10:31] <IceDC571> freddy: me and my snowboard are in the pic too!! :)
[10:32] <prego> chez, I do that from the desktop icon, but perhaps you can do it elsewhere
[10:32] <ptlo> hmm...given a package name, is there an easy way to get the list of _all_ packages it depends on, directly and indirectly?
[10:32] <freddy> IceDC571, i used mandrake for too many years, and i got out from linux cause i started working with animation and motion graphics....
[10:32] <freddy> and now im back...
[10:32] <freddy> :D
[10:32] <prego> chez, you may need to close any terminals which are "inside" the pendrive and probably any nautilus windows...
[10:32] <bigfoot1> cafuego, what's ytalk?
[10:32] <freddy> IceDC571, pretty much....urpmi ubuntu LOL
[10:32] <IceDC571> freddy: im surprised they dont know what ubuntu is when its the #1 distro on distrowatch
[10:33] <poningru> I had a suggestion for umount actually
[10:33] <chez> prego: cheers working fine now
[10:33] <prego> :-))
[10:33] <zoex> hai...
[10:33] <poningru> if the device is busy why not give a prompt to send a kill to the device
[10:33] <poningru> err process
[10:33] <freddy> IceDC571, do you have the link to distrowatch where it says that?
[10:34] <IceDC571> www.distrowatch.com , eh?
[10:34] <poningru> freddy: go to distrowatch.com
[10:34] <freddy> shiat
[10:34] <freddy> i saw it
[10:34] <zoex> i don't
[10:34] <IceDC571> hey whats mandriva doing at #2? lol.. freddy did you do that?
[10:34] <freddy> well but mandriva is the 2nd one..so they are not that lost
[10:34] <freddy> lol
[10:34] <poningru> look at the hits per day
[10:34] <poningru> HPD
[10:35] <freddy> IceDC571, hahaha
[10:35] <poningru> we are at 2484
[10:36] <freddy> wait a sex whats ubuntu colony?
[10:36] <freddy> err not a sex
[10:36] <freddy> a sec
[10:36] <freddy> jesus
[10:37] <poningru> freudian slip?
[10:37] <prego> freddy, you are still thinking with that girl....
[10:37] <freddy> haha
[10:38] <bigfoot1> i like skype but it doesn't have answering machine capabilites. What do you guys recommend?
[10:39] <freddy> buy it to get the answering machine
[10:39] <poningru> no
[10:39] <poningru> gnome meeting
[10:39] <freddy> ok sleep time really bad
[10:39] <freddy> prego, nite
[10:40] <freddy> poningru, nite
[10:40] <IceDC571> poningru: hmm.. im trying to look for answering machine or voicemail on gnomemeeting but i dont seem to find it
[10:40] <IceDC571> freddy: nite!
[10:40] <prego> freddy, dulces sueos
[10:40] <freddy> IceDC571, nice talking to you man, nite nite...see you around
[10:40] <MolochOwl> have the computer record it...there must be several different ways that could be accomplished
[10:40] <freddy> prego, you too
[10:40] <poningru> night
[10:40] <prego> prego, still in the morning here in spain...
[10:40] <freddy> IceDC571, your always around here?
[10:40] <prego> freddy, i mean...
[10:40] <IceDC571> freddy: yes, sadly
[10:40] <freddy> IceDC571, haha
[10:41] <freddy> prego, morning?
[10:41] <freddy> spain?
[10:41] <freddy> nice
[10:41] <freddy> i would love to go to spain
[10:41] <ufzobook> hellas all. i have a question. under gentoo, when i emerge a software, the sources will be saved in a directory. and i can delete them to save disk space.under ubuntu they are saved also, elswhere. but where ;) ?
[10:41] <freddy> ok, i cant type anymore
[10:41] <Whistler> how do i run *run files?
[10:41] <freddy> zzZzzZz
[10:41] <ufzobook> Whistler, what files ?
[10:41] <poningru> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Open+Source+VOIP+Software
[10:42] <WMCoolmon> hrm, so nobody's tried out half-life 2 with cedega...?
[10:42] <jono> while I am working today I am gonna backup my CDs - I am using cdparanoia - does anyone know if the paranoia is important or if ripping them without it is fine?
[10:43] <hairyhobbit> cedega works well in ubuntu?
[10:43] <prego> jono, depends strongly on your hardware
[10:43] <parabolize> hairyhobbit, yes
[10:44] <prego> jono, however if your hardware is so OK, cdparanoia is almost as fast as direct extraction, IMHO
[10:44] <IceDC571> cedega.. free as in freedom?
[10:44] <prego> jono, when you extract audio, do you get "------" or "      "?
[10:44] <parabolize> IceDC571, no :(
[10:44] <hairyhobbit> parabolize, cedega cvs?
[10:45] <jono> prego, I a using grip to do this
[10:45] <WMCoolmon> hairyhobbit: in my experience, no
[10:45] <parabolize> didn't try cvs
[10:45] <WMCoolmon> i have yet to get homeworld, homeworld cataclysm, starcraft, or half-life 2 working
[10:45] <prego> jono, do a probe: cdparanoia -B 1
[10:45] <jono> prego, will grip chuck an error if cdparanoia does not like something?
[10:46] <bigfoot1> why is it that Phone Calling over the internet isn't like email? With email, you can email to anyone in the world. The recipient of the email doesn't have to be on the same ISP as you or use the same software. BUt with Phonecalling over the internet, you must use the same software or same technology. so a skype user can only communicate with another skyper, for example. Will this mess be sorted out in the future?
[10:46] <prego> jono, it will show a progress bar
[10:46] <prego> jono, if you get a blank progress bar, your hardware should be fine enough
[10:46] <bigfoot1> WHet I say "Phone Calling over the internet", I mean one PC user to another.
[10:46] <jono> prego, everything seems to be ripping fine
[10:46] <WhoYa> hi all
[10:47] <hairyhobbit> WMCoolmon, I'm very sad to hear about that, I was so hoping to try Cedega cvs with Ubuntu. Have you tried Vice City or any of the Warcraft or Age of Empires games?
[10:47] <prego> jono, and the progress bar has no kind of signs except for spaces
[10:47] <jono> prego, ok cheers
[10:48] <prego> jono, note however that damaged CDs would require cdparanoia nevertheless.
[10:48] <gilv> how to register a nick ?
[10:48] <jino> how can i watch a web cam in gaim?
[10:48] <inemo> jino: check out gaim +vv
[10:49] <gilv> it's possible to use a webcam with gaim ?
[10:49] <WMCoolmon> hairy: no; i've heard that people have been able to get WoW running, though
[10:50] <prego> jono, I always use cdparanoia, anyway. I'm trully paranoic about sound quality
[10:50] <prego> paranoid
[10:50] <jono> prego, good way to go! :)
[10:52] <IceDC571> ooo.. this looks interesting http://www.pcbsd.org/
[10:52] <IceDC571> except the kde part..
[10:52] <bigfoot1> is there any piece of software available that would be an answering machine for skype ? If no, is there something other than skype that has "answering machine" capabilites?
[10:52] <hairyhobbit> WMCoolmon, I will try some tests and see how many games I can run with it
[10:54] <hintswen> hey
[10:54] <WMCoolmon> hairyhobbit: gl
[10:54] <hintswen> can i install Ubuntu from the install cd(creating another partition) without loosing any data?
[10:55] <hairyhobbit> bigfoot1, tell people to record a sound file and e-mail it to you?
[10:55] <prego> hintswen, sure, if really you know what you are doing.
[10:55] <bigfoot1> hairyhobbit, i guess you can do that. i just wanted an easier way.
[10:55] <hintswen> dam
[10:55] <hintswen> what if i don't have a clue what i'm doing?
[10:55] <prego> hintswen, backup, backup, backup
[10:56] <hintswen> what if i can't lol
[10:56] <hintswen> 2 much stuff
[10:56] <prego> hintswen, critical step is partitioning IMHO
[10:56] <prego> hintswen, you have available partitions?
[10:57] <bigfoot1> anybody use hotrecorder with skype?
[10:57] <hintswen> no
[10:57] <jino> inemo , where do the link appear for viewing ca?
[10:58] <hintswen> i only have my windows partition
[10:58] <inemo> jino: dunno sorry, never used it.
[10:58] <prego> hintswen, from ubuntu installer you cannot shrink current partitions to make place to another one (AFAIK)
[10:58] <inemo> i'm on a mac so I use mercury messenger (which might be available for linux) or boot into XP and run msn7 jino
[10:58] <hintswen> ok
[10:58] <jino> okie
[10:58] <jino> thanks a lot
[10:58] <hintswen> so if i backed up...
[10:59] <bigfoot1> http://www.pamela-systems.de/ makes "Pamela" an add-on to Skype that acts as an answering machine. Unfortuanately it's onyl for winndows. ANbody know of a linux solution?
[10:59] <hintswen> i'd have to make m2 partitions then install
[10:59] <hintswen> then restore my backup?
[10:59] <prego> hintswen, there are software over there to do that kind of things, but you may take into account that noone warrants you
[10:59] <hairyhobbit> prego, yes you can
[10:59] <prego> hairyhobbit, I didn't know, thanks for the point
[11:00] <prego> hintswen, the idea is to backup (just in case something comes wrong), then defrag your windows partition, resize the partition using tool such partition magic or the one in the ubuntu install disk (as hairyhobbit says),
[11:01] <hintswen> dam
[11:01] <prego> hintswen, then, since there is now space left, put there two partitions at least (one for swap and another for the system), from the ubuntu installer
[11:01] <hintswen> defrag only taked about 2 years...
[11:01] <prego> hintswen, I know.
[11:02] <Whistler> i have 16gb of unpartitioned space can i join this space to my windows partition?
[11:02] <prego> hintswen, you have other more costly ways: to buy a new hard drive
[11:02] <poningru> bigfoot1: http://www.kevinelliott.net/asterisk/AVC/about.php
[11:02] <poningru> http://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml
[11:02] <hintswen> if i added a second hard-drive i wouldn't ahve to partition or anything... yeah?
[11:03] <johanbr> Just wondering if the nautilus audio preview is working for anyone? I'm running Breezy now, but I don't recall ever having it working on anything (Hoary, Warty, Debian Sarge, ...).
[11:03] <prego> hintswen, you would install ubuntu on the second hard-drive which you can partition at your glance
[11:03] <bigfoot1> poningru, does Asterisk work with Skype?
[11:03] <hintswen> k so how i check how big my hard drive is(using Ubuntu)
[11:03] <prego> hintswen, you might also create a windows partition there for backup purposes
[11:03] <poningru> http://www.speakfreely.org/
[11:03] <poningru> bigfoot1: almost nothing works with skype since the protocol is closed
[11:03] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[11:03] <prego> hintswen, make also in mind that if the computer is quite old it wont accept large hard drives...
[11:03] <bigfoot1> can't you reverse engineer skype?
[11:04] <poningru> you can but no one is willing to
[11:04] <hintswen> well a new computer will accept a old hard drive?
[11:04] <poningru> since there are many open protocols that do what it does pretty well
[11:04] <hintswen> cause old computer has ubuntu on it... thinking of talking that hard drive
[11:04] <poningru> hintswen: how old is the old computer
[11:05] <hintswen> verry old
[11:05] <poningru> and is it x86?
[11:05] <hintswen> 5+years
[11:05] <poningru> not that old
[11:05] <bigfoot1> poningru, i see
[11:05] <poningru> 5 years is not very old
[11:05] <hintswen> lol k well new computer could use that hard drive?
[11:05] <poningru> yeah probably
[11:05] <hintswen> might actually just get a new external hard drive...
[11:06] <poningru> hintswen: nah inernals are so much cheaper
[11:06] <hintswen> that'd work right? then i could just plug it in to any computer and run ubuntu?
[11:06] <bigfoot1> so is there a solution for this minor problem: A skype-like software that will allow me to  communicate with Windows users AND can act as an answering machine, too.
[11:06] <hintswen> yeah but i might move it around a bit
[11:06] <prego> hintswen, not really
[11:06] <hintswen> dam lol
[11:06] <prego> hintswen, hardware is detected during install....
[11:07] <hintswen> that's y my mouse didn't work? lol
[11:07] <prego> probably
[11:07] <hintswen> working now... got something to do with me putting windows cd in?
[11:07] <hintswen> cause it hasn't been wotking
[11:07] <hintswen> was bout to re-install windows but decided not to
[11:07] <hintswen> now mouse works
[11:08] <prego> ????
[11:08] <MolochOwl> yeah...detection during install is pretty lucky unless your using older parts.
[11:08] <hintswen> serial mouse lol
[11:08] <hintswen> VERRY old
[11:09] <mofat> umm can help me get ubuntu to play mp3's and divx?
[11:09] <poningru> bigfoot1: ask your friend to use an open protocol, open source client
[11:09] <poningru> mofat: ubuntuguide.org
[11:10] <bigfoot1> poningru, like what?
[11:10] <poningru> http://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml
[11:10] <poningru> look through there
[11:10] <poningru> there are many
[11:11] <MolochOwl> that guide really is a godsend..hard to believe it's "unofficial"
[11:11] <hintswen> maybe i just take this comnputer in to store with Ubuntu cd... ask them to put in new hard drive and install ubuntu on it...
[11:11] <hintswen> computer*
[11:11] <hairyhobbit> It appears Yahoo! has added some type of voice communication to their software, but I know nothing more than a news item I read about it. Probably Windows only I'd guess.
[11:12] <hintswen> reckon they would? lol
[11:12] <MolochOwl> your not in canada eh hintswen,,,I'd love to do that...and not even rip you off quite as bad
[11:12] <hintswen> lol
[11:12] <poningru> hintswen: where in aus do you live?
[11:12] <hintswen> melbourne
[11:12] <poningru> hmm hold on
[11:12] <hintswen> k
[11:13] <hintswen> my time here is limited so be quick...
[11:13] <poningru> how much would you be willing to pay for that?
[11:13] <hintswen> to get it installed? nothing for hard drive dunno
[11:13] <hintswen> might just get a new pc lol
[11:13] <hairyhobbit> hintswen, are you sure they wouldn't try to install Lindows instead?
[11:14] <lukus001> Somone help i can get my audio to work!
[11:14] <lukus001> cant*
[11:14] <hintswen> corse they wouldn't
[11:14] <poningru> cause I know a couple of unemployed people in melbourne
[11:14] <poningru> who will be more than happy to help you out
[11:14] <MolochOwl> i'd charge 30/40 for the drive and 50 for the OS...that's cheap
[11:14] <poningru> but I would do it myself
[11:14] <poningru> research it and then open up your comp
[11:14] <poningru> and install your hd
[11:14] <hintswen> wth i'd buy a new computer and install it on this 1(after i backup)
[11:14] <hairyhobbit> hintswen, most employees I've discovered at computer stores would cry like baby Jesus if they were confronted with a Linux install without a pretty GUI.
[11:15] <reisslein> anybody got a lexmark z600 usb printer working in here?
[11:15] <hintswen> lol
[11:15] <hintswen> ubuntu install was actually alot easyer than i thought it would have been
[11:15] <poningru> lukus001: whats the prob?
[11:15] <hintswen> people give linux a bad name
[11:15] <genbie> was IRC down?
[11:15] <iluciv> dvb-utils anyone used them much??
[11:16] <hintswen> i thought i'd be un-installing linux as soon as i saw it
[11:16] <bigfoot1> poningru, so if my friend gets an open-protocol, open source client software on his Windows pc, we therefore have voicemail capabilities?
[11:16] <MolochOwl> don't even need research...the drive will come set as master and you just have to plug it in...and nothing can be set in backwards...it's idiot proof
[11:16] <lukus001> poningru: i've got a asus a8n board with inbuilt sound, ive ogt a digital /optical cable pluged in but i cant get any sound
[11:16] <hintswen> anyway cyaz...
[11:16] <poningru> bigfoot1: yes but make sure it is using the same protocol as what you choose
[11:17] <bigfoot1> poningru, so let's say i'm using gnomemeeting and my Windows friend is using netmeeting. how do we go about using the digital "answering machine"?
[11:18] <bigfoot1> poningru, how came skype wasn't in the list at http://www.tech-faq.com/voip-software.shtml?
[11:18] <poningru> bigfoot1: because skype isnt exactly open protocol
[11:19] <reisslein> how comes that some applications don't register themselves in gnome panel ? f.ex. games like ketm or tuxracer ?
[11:19] <bigfoot1> poningru, how about the answering machine question? 8-)
[11:19] <poningru> oh gnome meeting apperantly doesn support it, my mistake
[11:20] <poningru> use another one of the many clients availble
[11:20] <poningru> dude do some research
[11:20] <poningru> search around
[11:20] <Amaranth> nothing but skype can work with skype
[11:20] <poningru> lukus001: sorry dude I have no clue
[11:20] <lukus001> poningru: ok np
[11:20] <poningru> mofat: please dont pm me
[11:21] <poningru> just say it in the channel that is ontopic
[11:21] <Amaranth> and skype isn't real VOIP, it doesn't support SIP
[11:21] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, so real VOIP is defined as anything that supports SIP technology?
[11:21] <Amaranth> seems to be, yes
[11:21] <poningru> mofat: http://www.tuxfiles.org/
[11:21] <mjr> well that's taking it too far; Skype clearly is VOIP, just evil and proprietary and in the way of proper open protocols
[11:22] <poningru> yeah what mjr said
[11:22] <mjr> and also in the way of the standardization that bigfoot1 seemed to want earlier :)
[11:22] <poningru> definition of voip is voice over IP
[11:22] <poningru> there are many protocol for that
[11:22] <poningru> protocols*
[11:22] <Amaranth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
[11:23] <Amaranth> There are two protocols that are open.
[11:23] <Amaranth> And afaik only one that is closed (Skype).
[11:23] <hairyhobbit> mjr, Skype is evil because it is proprietary? So does this mean you use open source video drivers?
[11:23] <mjr> hairyhobbit, in fact I do, on my home and laptop computers
[11:23] <Amaranth> with full 3D acceleration
[11:23] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, so the 2 open protocols are SIP and h.3423 (or something like that), right?
[11:24] <Amaranth> H.323
[11:24] <poningru> mjr: so do I
[11:24] <mjr> (work box doesn't, but that's the CS department official Linux for you)
[11:24] <Amaranth> which is what netmeeting and gnomemeeting use
[11:24] <poningru> bigfoot1: there are others that are open too
[11:24] <spafbnerf> Amaranth, hehe, with what video card? :p
[11:24] <cafuego> Surely NetMeeting doesn't use an OPEN protocol?
[11:25] <Amaranth> "Challengers to H.323 are SIP, a standard from the IETF and the new Skype protocol. All these are used in Voice over IP (VoIP, Internet Telephony, or IP Telephony)."
[11:25] <bigfoot1> i don't care whether something is open or closed, as long as it's free and i can use it? Should i care?
[11:25] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: Radeon 7000
[11:25] <poningru> cafuego: yes it does
[11:25] <mjr> bigfoot1, you should, if you want what you said earlier
[11:25] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: Hoping to get a 9200 soon.
[11:25] <londonboi2k3> Morning guys, I need to reboot my PC at home after my upgrade, I need it to mail me the new IP address I know i can use ifconfig | mail myemail@address.com but where do i need to put a script and how would it be formed? Thanks
[11:25] <spafbnerf> ok.... the opensource drivers for those r rly ne good?
[11:25] <mjr> bigfoot1, you know, about this mess being sorted out
[11:25] <spafbnerf> cz i know the proprietrary ATI drivers 2 b absolutely horrid :p
[11:26] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: The open source drivers for Radeon 7000-9250 are excellent
[11:26] <mjr> skype is a big part of that mess
[11:26] <bigfoot1> if i want to be rich, then I should make a closed thing right? If I'm the software creator, then the path to riches is via the " closed" path, right?
[11:26] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: And are a part of xorg so Ubuntu sets it all up for you automagically.
[11:26] <bigfoot1> mjr, gotcha.
[11:26] <Hoxzer> :D I still hate my mom
[11:26] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: Sure, but no one is going to get rich off software anymore.
[11:26] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: Not new comers, anyway.
[11:26] <spafbnerf> hmm, well i doubt the opensourceys know how to work the hardware so well as ATI :)
[11:26] <Hoxzer> she shutdown my shell server >_<
[11:26] <Hoxzer> im so pissed of
[11:26] <bigfoot1> for the masses, open is good. but for the moneymaking creator, it's the opposite, yes?
[11:26] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: Ha
[11:26] <Hoxzer> f
[11:27] <londonboi2k3> Any ideas guys :)
[11:27] <Hoxzer> and he could't restart it
[11:27] <mjr> spafbnerf, the oss drivers work well enough with my 9250 and 9000 mobility
[11:27] <Hoxzer> *she
[11:27] <Zaphod> lo all..
[11:27] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: iirc the open source drivers use features on cards that the official ones don't
[11:27] <spafbnerf> well enuff for 3d games etc?
[11:27] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, microsoft is rich. and that's just one example. am i wrong?
[11:27] <Hoxzer> :D gimme irssi for just one day so I can use irc in qnet
[11:27] <mjr> I'm waiting on the r300.sourceforge.net project to produce something before upgrading to 9600 or something
[11:27] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: Not new comers, anyway.
[11:27] <Jimbob> bigfoot1: You're confusing creator with owner.
[11:27] <spafbnerf> Amaranth, lol, well i'm not shur wot to make of that ;D heheheh
[11:27] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, pardon me.
[11:27] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[11:27] <Zaphod> I need a bit of help.. where do I find a list of applications available for download for Ubuntu?
[11:27] <mjr> spafbnerf, maybe not new ones with such old cards, but I play NWN quite happily with them
[11:27] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: ATI makes/made shitty drivers.
[11:28] <Nikki> hi, this is slightly offtopic but I'm confused!
[11:28] <Amaranth> spafbnerf: They are better now, but if they don't even use all of the features on the card...
[11:28] <bigfoot1> i can't differentiate between creator and owner.
[11:28] <mjr> (yes, I care less about freedom when it comes to a single application than when it comes to a driver or protocol)
[11:28] <Nikki> I'v brought a laptop and I want to find out information about the hard disk, like its RPM
[11:28] <poningru> Zaphod: you can use synaptic
[11:28] <spafbnerf> i wldnt know, never got them to work :p hehehe....
[11:28] <spafbnerf> well mayb the open drivers r using the wrong features? :o
[11:28] <Amaranth> Zaphod: packages.ubuntu.com lets you search them
[11:28] <spafbnerf> wot is NWN?
[11:28] <mjr> spafbnerf, neverwinter nights
[11:28] <Amaranth> Zaphod: There are thousands of packages available
[11:29] <spafbnerf> ooooh *looks it up*
[11:29] <Nikki> but I dont know how to go about it, PS I havent burnt Ubuntu yet so a windows program would be nice, I mean it shouldnt be that hard to find out specs about your HD should it!?
[11:29] <poningru> Nikki: offtopic please go to a techcannel
[11:30] <Amaranth> Nikki: Perhaps the device manager tells you that?
[11:30] <Nikki> nope it doesnt
[11:30] <ufzobook> Nikki, how about open it
[11:30] <ufzobook> and look at the label
[11:31] <hairyhobbit> Nikki, google gpick list of lists and you'll find a lot of links to free windows utilities
[11:31] <Mattias> Hello people :) Anyone know how the support for ATI Radeon X800 XL PCI-e are in ubuntu?
[11:31] <Plouf_> hi is there a french ubuntu channel ?
[11:31] <ivoks> oh, we have a lady here
[11:31] <mjr> (mm, sip-supporting gnomemeeting is getting closer... :)
[11:31] <ivoks> or Nikki is trasvestit :)
[11:31] <Hoxzer> Mattias: what are you going to do with that powerful video card?
[11:31] <Nikki> its a laptop, under warranty, cant open it :D
[11:32] <poningru> ah
[11:32] <Mattias> Hoxzer, Well, I want and all-round-PC so I bought this card :P
[11:32] <hyphenated> Nikki: any bootable live-cd should be suitable
[11:32] <|grunt|> Or nikki is a guys name
[11:32] <|grunt|> anyone think about that?
[11:32] <poningru> #ubuntu-fr
[11:33] <Nikki> yep downloaded live CD, just got to burn it
[11:33] <poningru> to Plouf_
[11:33] <Plouf_> thank's poningru
[11:33] <bigfoot1> i have popus disabled in fx but still get unwanted pages showing up. what's up?
[11:33] <bigfoot1> popus--> popups
[11:34] <poningru> bigfoot1: what kind of popups?
[11:34] <poningru> popunders?
[11:34] <bigfoot1> maybe that?
[11:34] <bigfoot1> maybe that.
[11:34] <bigfoot1> i don't know which it is.
[11:34] <poningru> ok open up firefox
[11:34] <bigfoot1> okay.
[11:34] <poningru> type in about:config
[11:34] <bigfoot1> it is open
[11:34] <poningru> and press enter
[11:34] <Hoxzer> Linux should have better win emu's
[11:34] <nik> Thanks a lot hairyhobbit :), your link helped
[11:34] <hairyhobbit> bigfoot1, install privoxy
[11:34] <poningru> bigfoot1: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007682.html
[11:35] <poningru> just follow that
[11:35] <nik> C ya later, Thx again hairyhobbit
[11:35] <bigfoot1> okay, i pressed enter, now what?
[11:35] <hairyhobbit> Hoxzer Windows should have better Linux emu
[11:35] <bigfoot1> poningru,  i pressed enter, now what?
[11:35] <poningru> bigfoot1: sigh
[11:36] <hairyhobbit> nik, did you find that page?
[11:36] <bigfoot1> oh, you mean check out the page?
[11:36] <bigfoot1> okay.
[11:36] <poningru> yeah
[11:36] <guidouil> hello all, I need some help regarding the command rename, can someone help me ?
[11:36] <bigfoot1> just curious, did you really sigh?
[11:36] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[11:36] <poningru> nah :)
[11:37] <guidouil> ok, due to the lake of answers I will ask more clearly
[11:38] <guidouil> I have many files named *foo* and i whant them this way *toto* can anyone throw me a bone here ?
[11:38] <guidouil> I have read the rename manual but it isn't very clear to me
[11:39] <hairyhobbit> guidouil, mv filenamedthis filenamedthat
[11:39] <poningru> for multiple
[11:39] <poningru> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/150/print
[11:40] <poningru> bigfoot1: did everything work out ok?
[11:41] <poningru> about the popups
[11:41] <xterminus> is there any way to change a processes's priority - nice?
[11:41] <bigfoot1> i'm still surveying which route i should take. the comments seem to say that adblock can take care of them.
[11:41] <ufzobook> kewl, there is a Enlightenment 17 live cd now. still testing version, but beter than installing this with ubuntu.
[11:41] <guidouil> thx poningru
[11:41] <ufzobook> sure xterminus.
[11:42] <bigfoot1> poningru, can you give me an example of a site that adblock doesn't block by default
[11:42] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:42] <bigfoot1> not a site, i'm sorry, but a popup/popdown window
[11:42] <xterminus> ufzobook, i've used nice to change the prio of a program when starting it, but i can't seem to figure out how to change the priority of a process allready running
[11:42] <poningru> adblock doesnt block anything by default
[11:42] <poningru> xterminus: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/tutorials/processes.html
[11:43] <poningru> bigfoot1: what is your filter?
[11:43] <ufzobook> you can change it wit a gui in gnome
[11:43] <bigfoot1> my filter, poningru ?
[11:43] <ufzobook> and also in the shell
[11:43] <poningru> yeah
[11:43] <bigfoot1> how do i find out my filter?
[11:43] <xterminus> i killed gnome off, got to slow
[11:43] <xterminus> i have a process i need to keep running until it finishes though
[11:43] <poningru> ctrl+shift+p
[11:44] <poningru> bigfoot1: what are you trying to do?
[11:44] <thespiritoftal> hi how can i open mp3 files in ubuntu?
[11:44] <ufzobook> xterminus, do you know top?
[11:44] <xterminus> yeah
[11:44] <ufzobook> there you can change this
[11:44] <bigfoot1> poningru, block out popup/popdowns that Firefox doesn't stop, even when i have disabled popups in the options area
[11:45] <ufzobook> or you just use renice
[11:45] <ufzobook> but i think you already found out renice
[11:45] <xterminus> yeah, thanks
[11:45] <ufzobook> in top, when you hit r, you can renice a process
[11:45] <thespiritoftal> noone knows???
[11:46] <spafbnerf> kill ubuntu!!!
[11:46] <thespiritoftal> can someone plz help me how to run mp3 files in ubuntu? The music players doesnt support it
[11:46] <ufzobook> www.ubuntuguide.org @ thespiritoftal
[11:46] <poningru> bigfoot1: did you follow that site?
[11:46] <poningru> here I will help
[11:47] <ufzobook> you will find there all you need for the first week using ubuntu i think
[11:47] <schasi> thespiritoftal: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats iirc
[11:47] <poningru> bigfoot1: go to about:config
[11:47] <poningru> right click anywhere on that window
[11:47] <bigfoot1> poningru, yes, i'm still reading that webpage, particularly the comments section
[11:47] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[11:47] <poningru> no need for the comments
[11:47] <bigfoot1> you are so helpful. why?
[11:47] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[11:47] <poningru> just do what that person says
[11:48] <poningru> what asa says to do
[11:48] <hairyhobbit> bigfoot1, install privoxy!
[11:49] <bigfoot1> hairyhobbit, poningru, first could you give me an example website that uses popups/popdows that firefox, with Preferences-->Web Features-->Block Popup Windows   doesnt' block?
[11:50] <bigfoot1> i guess i'm looking for a flash popup
[11:50] <poningru> bigfoot1: no clue
[11:50] <poningru> I have never experienced one
[11:50] <poningru> since I have most of those option enabled
[11:51] <poningru> I dont see any popus
[11:51] <poningru> popups
[11:52] <iluciv> why would I be getting this?
[11:52] <iluciv> sudo scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/au-Brisbane >channels.conf
[11:52] <iluciv> bash: channels.conf: Permission denied
[11:52] <poningru> wait I thought dvb-t was in US only?
[11:53] <iluciv> Why wuldn't I ahve permissions in superusr
[11:53] <warrior_> hey guys quick question, does anyone here use 2.6.11-1 on their ubuntu system?
[11:53] <poningru> I thought Aus went the way of Europe?
[11:54] <poningru> also bigfoot1 if you want a good adblock
[11:54] <poningru> use this
[11:54] <poningru> http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm
[11:54] <iluciv> dvb-t = terrestrial tv free two view
[11:54] <poningru> yeah I know
[11:54] <Adross> how do i find out which partition is my /boot partition?
[11:55] <ceu> warrior_: I've tried the last 2.6.12.2 (compiled using make-kpkg). I hangs at boot time (with message "FATAL: Error running install command for binfmt_0000")
[11:55] <poningru> iluciv: I thought that was not that standard used in AUS
[11:55] <iluciv> poningru: well now you know :P
[11:55] <warrior_> ceu, yea I just installed 2.6.11 and it hung at it got past the splash but hung at loading my panels.  Why can other distros use it?
[11:56] <iluciv> I'm using 2.6.12.2
[11:56] <poningru> my bad
[11:56] <poningru> iluciv: I thought AUS did ATSC
[11:57] <warrior_> iluciv, did you make your kernel yourself for ubuntu?
[11:58] <Adross> anyone?
[11:58] <warrior_> Adross, check your fstab
[11:59] <warrior_> Adross, /etc/fstab
[11:59] <iluciv> yep
[11:59] <iluciv> warrioe_ yep
[11:59] <Adross> thanks
[11:59] <iluciv> poningru: No not yet anyway maybe 2008
[11:59] <warrior_> iluciv, are you using gnome 2.10 with it?
[12:00] <iluciv> warrior_:yep
[12:00] <Adross> warrior_: how do i view it?
[12:00] <iluciv> umm your eyes might help :P
[12:00] <iluciv> sorry
[12:00] <poningru> Adross: emacs
[12:00] <warrior_> Adross, use nautilus and go to the file or type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:00] <poningru> emacs /etc/fstab
[12:01] <poningru> type that into your  teminal
[12:01] <iluciv> warrior_: what happens
[12:01] <Adross> thanks
[12:01] <poningru> and if you want to edit it sudo emacs /etc/fstab
[12:01] <warrior_> iluciv, you mean with the kernel?
[12:01] <hairyhobbit> bigfoot1, I have no examples as I have no pop-up troubles. I suggested privoxy, have you tried it?
[12:01] <Adross> hmm, i can't understand it
[12:01] <Adross> if i post it in #flood, can someone tell me what it means?
[12:02] <warrior_> Adross, I'll take a look
[12:02] <iluciv> warrior_: sorry I still don't understand view it with the kernel??
[12:02] <Adross> cheers
[12:03] <iluciv> warrior: do you mean it doesn't load
[12:03] <koch2005> hello
[12:03] <warrior_> iluciv, I can't get 2.6.11 to work with gnome.  never has, but it should be stable as I used it with another os
[12:03] <poningru> Adross: it seems to be in sda6
[12:04] <Adross> ah k, cheers
[12:04] <Adross> so, knowing that, how would i go about fixing grub after reinstalling xp?
[12:04] <iluciv> I had no problem with gnome cept when I try to use my nvidia drivers (stock from nvidia.com) then I get segmentation errors I'll post a link gto a great link on the forums works a treat
[12:04] <lok> Adross, use a live-cd
[12:04] <poningru> Adross: you cant reinstall xp without deleting your other partitions
[12:05] <warrior_> iluciv, unfortunately I have an ati card
[12:05] <Adross> i did
[12:05] <bigfoot1> hairyhobbit, no i haven't tried privoxy yet.
[12:05] <koch2005> What are the steps needed to configure sound in Ubuntu ? I had loaded my sound card driver Aztec 2320 in Ubuntu and it was playing system sounds properly. But I am getting distorted sound while playing an mp3 file.
[12:05] <poningru> how
[12:05] <Adross> but i can't boot into it
[12:05] <poningru> bigfoot1: its pointless
[12:05] <bigfoot1> how come when i do a Ctrl-C in XChat ,it momentarily diappears.
[12:05] <Adross> it says it can't read the partition, and the ntldr is missing
[12:05] <bigfoot1> what's pointless
[12:05] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:05] <bigfoot1> poningru, L
[12:05] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:05] <iluciv> warrior_:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&page=1&pp=10&highlight=kernel
[12:05] <poningru> privoxy
[12:06] <iluciv> warrior_: Its a great howto
[12:06] <koch2005> Does anybody have the same sound problems in Ubuntu?
[12:06] <Adross> hmm, i think i have it
[12:06] <Adross> thanks
[12:07] <bigfoot1> poningru, oh i see. i kinda thought you were going to say it's useless talking to me.   8-)
[12:07] <poningru> rofl
[12:07] <koch2005> I think negating the sound problem. Ubuntu is really fabulous
[12:07] <poningru> nah we were all new to this once
[12:07] <hairyhobbit> poningru, privoxy is pointless? Explain
[12:07] <poningru> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privoxy
[12:07] <iluciv> I think graphics card suck either brand
[12:07] <poningru> all of that can be setup using adblock +
[12:07] <HrdwrBoB> iluciv: yes, however the nvidia cards work :)
[12:08] <poningru> and other extensions in firefox
[12:08] <koch2005> I had also tried enabling ESD - but to no avail
[12:08] <iluciv> HrdwrBoB: sorta sometimes
[12:08] <poningru> unless ofcourse you are not using firefox
[12:08] <poningru> then yes privoxy is necessary
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> iluciv: mostly all the time
[12:08] <koch2005> Could anyone please point me to the right resource w.r.t configuring sound in Ubuntu?
[12:08] <HrdwrBoB> iluciv: look it's not perfect
[12:09] <HrdwrBoB> but if you want 3d in linux, there is no alternative.
[12:09] <warrior_> iluciv, I've read through that.  Sounded good but my only problem was making sure I got all my settings correct.  Is there a guide for choosing the right modules and all?
[12:09] <hairyhobbit> poningru, but if another user uses firefox will they have the same settings with adblock and extensions vs. privoxy?
[12:09] <iluciv> bah you come over here and get my tv-out working on either of my nvidia cards
[12:09] <HrdwrBoB> iluciv: I have TV out working with two nvidia cards
[12:09] <HrdwrBoB> my 5700 and gf2mx
[12:09] <poningru> hairyhobbit: I didnt understand your question
[12:09] <lukus001> okay i really cant get my audio to work, does any one know how to get audio from the digital /optical cable on an asus a8n-ali deluxe board?
[12:10] <lukus001> sli*
[12:10] <iluciv> IThats doesn't mean you'd get mine working I can't get it to work under windows
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> lukus001: I'm not sure you can
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> iluciv: heh, what card
[12:11] <iluciv> warrior_ thats the part where copy over your old config make oldconfig
[12:11] <bigfoot1> poningru, i think hairyhobbit is saying that privoxy doesn't have to be set up per user, while firefox does.
[12:11] <hairyhobbit> poningru, works for me
[12:11] <poningru> oh gotcha
[12:11] <poningru> yeah adblock and other extensions have to be setup
[12:12] <poningru> so yeah I guess a little more effort is required
[12:12] <iluciv> HrdwrBoB: Gforce 2 && 6600
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> the gf2 should work.. odd
[12:12] <warrior_> iluciv, this could be easier than I thought.  Biggest question, do you have working 3d acceleration and linux headers to match 2.6.12-2?
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> maybe it's broken
[12:13] <iluciv> My ati card works great (Tv-out that is ) only it sucks for 3d  ati9250
[12:13] <koch2005> Nvida is the best
[12:14] <iluciv> warrior_ I've posted in that thread near the end and gone through what I did like a newbie (cause I am one)
[12:14] <warrior_> iluciv, as am I
[12:15] <hairyhobbit> locate theonering
[12:15] <iluciv> Warrior_ only prob is the graphics its borking pretty frequently after installing the graphics drivers
[12:15] <iluciv> gnome that is
[12:18] <warrior_> iluciv, yea I'm gonna avoid 2.6.12 and try to go with 2.6.11 and use fglrx 8.14.13
[12:19] <Coyctecm> hey, how to install jar file? I have jre installed
[12:20] <nightswim> java -jar huu.jar
[12:20] <warrior_> iluciv, this is what I get for wanting to be faster on a perfectly good system.  bbl if all goes well and thanks for the thread reference
[12:20] <Coyctecm> thanks =)
[12:22] <iluciv> My tip is search your hardware types; it takes a long time (well it took me along time but hey I'm a little silly)
[12:22] <iluciv> yep 2.6.12.2 no very stable for this newbie
[12:23] <itz> Hi got problem with mounting harddrives. I used Mandrake before and there u could easily mount and make changes in a gui program. Are there any similiar in ubuntu?
[12:24] <itz> Seveas, can u help me this time to? :P
[12:24] <Seveas> maybe
[12:24] <itz> Hi got problem with mounting harddrives. I used Mandrake before and there u could easily mount and make changes in a gui program. Are there any similiar in ubuntu?
[12:25] <Seveas> you mean for windows drives..?
[12:25] <itz> nope ext3
[12:25] <Seveas> hmm, simply mount /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint    extr   rw,defaults   0  0
[12:26] <Seveas> in /etc/fstab
[12:26] <Seveas> afaik there is a disk mounter desklet in gdesklets too
[12:27] <itz> well simply for u maybe ;)  no i guess i will manage to fix fstab.... gdeklets where do i find that?
[12:27] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[12:27] <Seveas> ;)
[12:29] <itz> hmm ok.. ill try change fstab then first.... seems like problems for me either way :P
[12:29] <itz> Seveas, thx though
[12:34] <topyli> itz: did you recently add hard drives? the installer should find your stuff
[12:35] <itz> topyli, i installed with drives and ubuntu didnt find them... regular ext3.
[12:35] <acid2_> hey, does anyone know the package that contains libSDL.so ?
[12:35] <itz> but it works when i mount manually
[12:35] <mjr> acid2_, apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search libSDL.so
[12:36] <topyli> itz: yeah well, i have partitions mounted in places like /home/pub, i had to do those manually of course
[12:36] <itz> It did find drives in install session but now in X it havent mounted them in any way
[12:36] <acid2_> mjr - sweet, thanks
[12:36] <itz> topyli, well they doesnt exist in any way atm... they arent in mnt library either
[12:37] <itz> was alot smother in mandrake
[12:37] <topyli> itz: i hope they show up in fdisk though :)
[12:37] <itz> y
[12:37] <itz> they do
[12:38] <topyli> well, fstab editing it is then
[12:39] <itz> Im quite pleased with ubuntu this far but mandrake is alot easier for a noob like me :P  then i also have some bugs...  minor but still not perfect ;)
[12:39] <itz> topyli, Y
[12:40] <dualBhelp> hey can some one tell me a single line i can tell grub to boot hda1
[12:40] <dualBhelp> ?
[12:40] <dualBhelp> if thats possible
[12:40] <topyli> itz: it's a different philosophy. mandrake makes easy tools for doing arcane stuff. ubuntu tries to make things just work so you don't have to fiddle with things
[12:40] <itz> topyli, well lets se in a couple of month whats suits me best ;)
[12:41] <Nermal> dualBhelp, kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/<kernel image>
[12:41] <Nermal> then boot
[12:41] <topyli> itz: the proof of the pudding is in the eating =)
[12:41] <dualBhelp> Nermal: :D
[12:42] <dualBhelp> Nermal: um can u give me the standerd hory kernal in that line?
[12:42] <itz> topyli, hehe whatever u say mate
[12:42] <topyli> actually i think it was lenin who said that :)
[12:43] <itz> Quote: "topyli itz: the proof of the pudding is in the eating =)"    It seems like u said it :o
[12:44] <topyli> you quoted me quoting him :P
[12:44] <itz> Ok mr know it all ;)
[12:45] <topyli> heh
[12:46] <itz> topyli, maybe u can help me with one bug
[12:46] <topyli> itz: i googled. lenin quoted cervantes' don quixote o_0
[12:46] <topyli> itz: which one?
[12:46] <itz> When typing "su" in terminal i get answer: "su: Authentication failure"
[12:47] <nightswim> yes
[12:47] <topyli> itz: root logins are disabled
[12:47] <Seveas> ubuntu uses sudo
[12:47] <nightswim> the root account is disabled by default
[12:47] <topyli> use sudo
[12:47] <Seveas> itz: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:47] <Seveas> for a root shell: sudo -i
[12:47] <Hoxzer> Night: do you know what we had to ddoooo
[12:48] <itz> ok ill read it lather i guess sudo -i worked for the moment.. have to get some stuff to work first before reading everything.. i likte t do it the backway. (also with girls)
[12:49] <topyli> itz: you ask for their names last?
[12:49] <itz> topyli, something like that
[12:49] <topyli> perhaps not though
[12:50] <itz> I f%ck them first and ask after if it was ok to do that :O
[12:50] <topyli> "may i? or would you like to dance first?"
[12:51] <itz> guess im very tired my sense of humor is extremly low today :(
[12:52] <plovs> anybody knows how to overwrite files from posinst when building a package? I use Replace: <packagename>, but still get a complaint
[12:52] <topyli> itz: anyway, it's not easy to learn by hosing your system first and then reading why it might have happened :)
[12:53] <itz> topyli, i like it the hard way
[12:53] <itz> :p
[12:54] <topyli> plovs: Replaces: even?
[12:54] <itz> Nah im just like that... always trying to make shortcuts but it doesnt work very often so i guess im a slow learner :O
[12:55] <plovs> topyli: i have: "Replaces: tinyproxy"
[12:55] <graabein> hi. i need help with putting ftp-nerim in my repo-list
[12:55] <topyli> plovs: ok, just ruling out typos :)
[12:55] <graabein> i can access the address through firefox
[12:55] <mdke> graabein, the best solution is not to add it at all
[12:55] <plovs> topyli: wished it was that easy :-)
[12:55] <topyli> graabein: don't do that, it won't work
[12:56] <graabein> mdke, i need the mp3 decoder etc
[12:56] <mdke> graabein, these things are available from ubuntu repositories
[12:56] <itz> topyli, even the worst can do it right... :P
[12:56] <topyli> graabein: they track unstable, it's far away from hoary
[12:56] <graabein> allright, ill try to remove them
[12:56] <mdke> graabein, its very very unlikely that there is anything you need from ftp-nerim
[12:56] <topyli> itz: success by accident is difficult to reproduce :)
[12:57] <mdke> topyli, actually i believe there is a stable, testing and unstable marillat repos, but shhhhh
[12:57] <itz> hehe
[12:57] <graabein> i just want to run the script from the ubuntuforum for clean installs
[12:57] <graabein> get multimedia up and running
[12:57] <mdke> graabein, if that script uses marillat it is not good
[12:58] <topyli> mdke: [whispers]  well, testing might work
[12:58] <mdke> topyli, depends on your definition of "work"
[12:58] <topyli> i mean stable
[12:58] <graabein> mdke, ok... ill take a closer look at the script. maybe i can just edit the marillat part out
[12:58] <mdke> graabein, for the correct way to install multimedia and so on, check out the wiki page at RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <unome> Seveas: would you take a look at this please: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/411
[12:59] <topyli> graabein: i looked at the script the other day. it won't work anymore
[12:59] <graabein> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646
[12:59] <graabein> ok...
[12:59] <topyli> graabein: it's a good idea but the script should be fixed
[01:00] <graabein> topyli, yeah, i think so too...
[01:01] <topyli> anyway, i'd take a close look at any script on the net before running it as root :)
[01:01] <nikola> hi, how can I add logcheck in crontab to be run with sudo and not as root?
[01:01] <HrdwrBoB> sudo *is* root
[01:02] <mdke> nikola, sudo crontab -e should do it
[01:02] <nikola> mdake, and what do I put just after the time * * * user?
[01:02] <nikola> its root now
[01:02] <nikola> the user
[01:03] <topyli> root is ok
[01:03] <nikola> topyli, mdke, ok, thanks a lot!
[01:03] <mdke> i don't have any user written in my crontabs
[01:03] <mdke> just the time and the command
[01:03] <boodle> Hi all... Using Hoary and want to get my palm pilot (treo) functioning with gpilot.. it seems udev is to blame (can connect once then nothing). I've read all the forums/wiki stuff on ubuntu+palm but no luck other than futzing with /etc/udev/links.conf and manually setting ttyUSB0/1 but only good for one sync, then device not detected again.. any ideas?
[01:03] <mdke> perhaps it depends on what cron you run
[01:04] <topyli> mdke: aren't crontabs themselves owned as users? i think specifying a user is a special case
[01:05] <mdke> yes i think so
[01:05] <topyli> s/as/by
[01:05] <mdke> in my case i get a different crontab depending on which user runs it
[01:06] <topyli> yes
[01:10] <ja> hi,i'm newbie,i've just installed ubuntu 5.04 and run root console then i wrote : passwd and set me password ,and everything is almost ok i can login like a root and run all programs but only in console,when i lke to open synaptic or root terminal prom menu i have this error: Failed to run "program name":Child terminated with 1 status,i can open synaptic or root terminal by my user password not root password,please help
[01:11] <Seveas> ja, all menu entries use sudo
[01:11] <itz> ja, i also get that sometimes
[01:12] <Seveas> you do not need a root password
[01:12] <Seveas> ja: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:12] <mdke> the menu items all use sudo
[01:13] <topyli> ja: just disable root again. you don't need it
[01:13] <mdke> ++
[01:13] <mdke> sudo is great
[01:14] <ja> topyli i don't understand why i have to disable root ?
[01:15] <topyli> ja: you don't have to. it's just useless
[01:15] <nalioth_zZzZz> ja becuase on ubuntu, root isnt required
[01:15] <topyli> ja: everything in ubuntu uses sudo anyway
[01:16] <ja> ok imust read something about sudo because i don't knoe exactly what it is:)
[01:16] <bigdawg> topyli unless you compile wine
[01:16] <topyli> ja: read the wiki page Seveas gave you
[01:16] <mdke> ja, the link Seveas posted is good
[01:16] <bigdawg> topyli then it asks for root password
[01:16] <topyli> bigdawg: well, webmin does too :)
[01:16] <topyli> can be fixed though
[01:16] <bigdawg> but I solved that by giving root a password
[01:17] <Kuningaspultti> I'm beginner so please, this must sound a little dumb but i need to uninstall Ubuntu for a while and make some more space for it.
[01:17] <Hoxzer> :D gimme shell account
[01:17] <Nermal> Kuningaspultti, do it the same way you would uninstall windows
[01:17] <Nermal> fdisk :P
[01:17] <Hoxzer> Kuningaspultti: where do you from?
[01:17] <nalioth> Kuningaspultti: why not use qtparted?
[01:17] <Kuningaspultti> Finland
[01:17] <topyli> selvstikin :)
[01:18] <Kuningaspultti> Jep :D
[01:18] <bigdawg> After I uninstalled Windows, I stepped on the CD and shouted "evil be gone!"
[01:18] <bit_> k
[01:18] <Hoxzer> Kunin: is it possible to have shell account from you?
[01:18] <Kuningaspultti> No
[01:18] <Kuningaspultti> not right now
[01:19] <Hoxzer> yes, lets do it now
[01:19] <Hoxzer> aaah.... baby give it to me
[01:20] <Hoxzer> nice and slow but hard is rock
[01:20] <Kuningaspultti> Nermal, but i've never _uninstalled_ it, i've just formatted the whole hard disk
[01:20] <Nermal> you can't uninstall it
[01:20] <Nermal> why would you be able to
[01:21] <Nermal> well. you can rm -rf /
[01:21] <Nermal> :)
[01:21] <nalioth> Nermal: please watch the commands you write in hre
[01:22] <cloud[01] > newbie question: what is the full path to the trash?
[01:22] <bigdawg> cloud[01]  c:\
[01:22] <topyli> bigdawg: i have a windows server 2003 cd as a coaster at work. it's quite stable
[01:22] <nalioth> cloud[01] : depending on what software you have on, there are more than one path
[01:22] <cloud[01] > bigdawg LOL
[01:22] <Nermal> nalioth, why.. what are they doing?
[01:23] <Nermal> or are you another anal power giddy op ?
[01:23] <bigdawg> cloud[01]  sorry I could not resist =)
[01:23] <Hoxzer> :D dont use windowns as a server
[01:23] <nalioth> Nermal: some new users are 'curious' about commands...
[01:23] <cloud[01] > nalioh i've "erased" some root access files and now can't wmpty the trashcan :)
[01:23] <bigdawg> anal power? is that a package?
[01:23] <topyli> cloud[01] : in gnome, it's $HOME/.Trash
[01:23] <cloud[01] > topyli thanks
[01:23] <Nermal> nalioth, he wants to uninstall ubuntu. that command will effectively remove ubuntu
[01:23] <bigdawg> how do you install this 'anal power'?
[01:24] <Nermal> bigdawg, via a backdoor exploit
[01:24] <nalioth> Nermal: yes, i know
[01:24] <bigdawg> Nermal, lol!
[01:24] <bigdawg> finally, some humor today, thank you I need it
[01:24] <Nermal> you did ask :)
[01:24] <Nermal> office still spinning
[01:24] <cloud[01] > clean now :)
[01:25] <nalioth> cloud[01] : do you run kde?
[01:25] <cloud[01] > nalioth nope, gnome, but resolved :)
[01:25] <nalioth> cloud[01] : just wondering, kde has its own trash location
[01:26] <cloud[01] > nalioth thanks :)
[01:26] <NatF-UQI> stupid question.. what do i have to do to get my ps2 mouse working? when i installed i used usb
[01:26] <topyli> cloud[01] : i think it's a bug actually. root's files don't belong in users' trash
[01:26] <topyli> should be impossible to move them there
[01:26] <cloud[01] > topyli: don't exaclty now how that was possible
[01:26] <cloud[01] > let me try once again :)
[01:26] <bigdawg> is there a bug in checkinstall? Sometimes sudo checkinstall makes a .deb but a lot of time it fails for no good reason, anyone experience this?
[01:27] <Hoxzer> Topyli: can I  have one shell account for irssi thx
[01:27] <topyli> cloud[01] : it's possible all right. it's a bug imo
[01:27] <nalioth> bigdawg: do you read the logs when i fails?
[01:27] <topyli> Hoxzer: you can even have your own ubuntu installation on your own box!
[01:27] <bigdawg> nalioth, yes but it does not give a good reason it says it failed when it fails.
[01:27] <nalioth> bigdawg: hmm, mine fails all the time, due to dpkg
[01:27] <bigdawg> nalioth is it a bug or do some source code not like checkinstall method?
[01:28] <bigdawg> nalioth why due to dpkg?
[01:28] <Hoxzer> Topyli: I know but my mother shutdowned it >:<
[01:28] <Hoxzer> I was pretty angry to her
[01:28] <topyli> Hoxzer: who am i to argue with someone's mother? :)
[01:28] <cloud[01] > topyli: checked, chown root:root and then as normal user rm and worked
[01:28] <nalioth> bigdawg: well, checkinstall isnt anywhere close to debian standard deb packaging, and dpkg fails on replacing existing files mostly (for me)
[01:28] <cloud[01] > i mean went to the trash
[01:29] <topyli> cloud[01] : yep
[01:29] <poningru> how do you start up your shell?
[01:29] <cloud[01] > but then try to empty the trash :)
[01:29] <topyli> yep
[01:29] <bigdawg> nalioth, how can I make debian standard deb packaging without using checkinstall?
[01:29] <topyli> cloud[01] : it's crack
[01:29] <cloud[01] > topyli crack?
[01:29] <topyli> well, broken
[01:29] <nalioth> bigdawg: sometimes it fails cuz there's no valid version number
[01:29] <cloud[01] > topyli ok :)
[01:29] <mikcrophine> i luv you!
[01:30] <nalioth> bigdawg: you'll have to visit debian.org and see the developer docs to learn that
[01:30] <mikcrophine> nerds
[01:30] <Hoxzer> Topyli: you can give me some backup if I lose my own box for some reason
[01:30] <mdke> mikcrophine, we all love one another here
[01:30] <bigdawg> nalioth, thank you for valid version number mention, I will look into that, and thank you for the developer docs suggestion I will look to that thank you
[01:30] <mikcrophine> nerds
[01:30] <mdke> bigdawg, there is some packaging information on the Ubuntu wiki too
[01:31] <mikcrophine> package???
[01:31] <paulfox> hi all
[01:31] <mikcrophine> hi all
[01:31] <cloud[01] > Is there anyone here using Pronto as email manager?
[01:31] <bigdawg> mdke, thank you I look into that =)
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <paulfox> has anyone managed to install vmware from the binary tar.gz on their site?
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <mikcrophine> no
[01:31] <DocTomoe> Excuse me ... where exactly do I find the Ubuntu Sparkle wallpaper used by Gnome in Breezy? I'd love to have this in KDE, but I cannot find the file...
[01:31] <mikcrophine> nooooooo
[01:31] <topyli> bigdawg: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[01:31] <mikcrophine> VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <cloud[01] > (i know it's not its irc but.. its own is down)
[01:31] <bigdawg> topyli, fantastic, thank you =)
[01:32] <mikcrophine> VIRUS transmittt messssaggge .
[01:32] <mdke> hmm
[01:32] <mdke> Seveas, you got ops on here yet?
[01:32] <bigdawg> someone throw mikcrophine a +q
[01:33] <NatF-UQI> wats the easiest way to make ubuntu find my ps2 mouse? cause its not currently :S
[01:33] <mikcrophine> Biddawg is really a sml dawg in pink undies
[01:33] <nalioth> you folks always have the /ignore option
[01:33] <mikcrophine> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[01:34] <NatF-UQI> anyone?
[01:34] <bigdawg> nalioth but it fills up the logs ;(
[01:34] <bigdawg> NatF-UQI search http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:35] <virus> virus
[01:35] <virus> VIRUS
[01:35] <Hoxzer> you ar3e
[01:35] <virus> please identify yourself!
[01:35] <virus> YOU ARSEHOL
[01:36] <Hoxzer> im you
[01:36] <virus> IMPOSSIBLE! i dont look like a whale
[01:37] <virus> hullo'
[01:37] <Hoxzer> Nonthing is what it looks like
[01:37] <virus> Is that what you say to the mirror
[01:37] <virus> ??????
[01:37] <virus> ok
[01:37] <Hoxzer> that is what I say to you
[01:38] <Hoxzer> are you mirror btw?
[01:38] <NatF-UQI> ok my other stupid question for the nite, is.. how the frig do u operate kde without a mouse.. whats the command to open the starbar like thing
[01:38] <nalioth> NatF-UQI: the 'windows' key
[01:38] <virus> people say im refective so same diff whale with no tail
[01:38] <NatF-UQI> windows key isnt working
[01:38] <topyli> NatF-UQI: the console?
[01:38] <virus> Hoxzer its feeding time
[01:39] <NatF-UQI> id like to get to the console :P im just in the default kde screen after one has logged in
[01:39] <topyli> NatF-UQI: ctrl-alt-F2
[01:39] <NatF-UQI> ta
[01:39] <topyli> come back with atl-F7
[01:39] <bigdawg> Xenguy if they did, they'd all be homeless
[01:39] <Xenguy> bigdawg: ;-)
[01:39] <virus> Comes from someone with time to waste SCOTTNOFRIENDS!
[01:40] <virus> MonkeyBrusirer
[01:40] <virus> the lot of it!
[01:41] <inemo> hi all
[01:41] <virus> Hullo Stupidity wasting away!
[01:42] <inemo> nice welcome virtuald
[01:42] <inemo> uh, virus even
[01:42] <virus> i know!
[01:42] <inemo> whats the best VNC server for ubuntu?
[01:43] <topyli> inemo: perhaps tightvnc
[01:43] <nalioth> inemo: is that a chevy/ford question?
[01:43] <topyli> heh
[01:43] <nalioth> inemo: vnc4server
[01:43] <inemo> nalioth: ??
[01:43] <virus> Hullo (reboots)
[01:43] <inemo> right ok
[01:43] <virus> right ok seems to be the only response
[01:43] <nalioth> inemo: c'mon a vi/emacs question? (iow, its based on opinion)
[01:44] <inemo> yeah, I have no idea on what vnc servers there are for ubuntu though
[01:44] <inemo> if you ask for the best you get various ones that work on different setups ;)
[01:44] <NatF-UQI> ive seriously broken something wiht this install :S
[01:44] <nalioth> inemo: there are plenty, 'vino' being the newest, i believe (and in my experience, the buggiest)
[01:45] <inemo> i'll avoid vino then :)
[01:45] <inemo> gotta install ubunt on the iBook yet anyway
[01:45] <virus> Do you  ever wonder why people bother to even talk here where there are millions of subways going un urinated
[01:46] <nalioth> off to urinate, i suppose
[01:46] <no_gatez_fan> do I need to edit a file to get shorewall going with a text editer and if so which one?
[01:47] <F> Hullo
[01:47] <inemo> hi F
[01:47] <F> where are all the apple users i need to check your harddrives
[01:47] <F> hi inemo!
[01:48] <F> inemo???
[01:48] <inemo> i'm an apple user, and you won't get anywhere near my HD :)
[01:48] <F> i dont know about that!!!!
[01:49] <F> :-*
[01:49] <F> inemo??
[01:49] <inemo> What?
[01:50] <F> what u wearing (apart from the HD)
[01:50] <F> inemo
[01:50] <inemo> clothes, now leave me alone
[01:50] <F> why?
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> how can I get gam to let go of a mounted fs?
[01:50] <F> :-(
[01:51] <F> inemo made me sad!!!!!
[01:51] <F> :-(
[01:51] <jeroen_> My xserver has died
[01:51] <jeroen_> how do I reconfigure it?
[01:51] <F> poor uuuuu!!!!!
[01:52] <F> UM . . . . ..  i'll ask
[01:52] <F> JEROEN??
[01:52] <nalioth> jeroen_: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:52] <jeroen_> F: yes?
[01:52] <NatF-UQI> hmms.. i dont think ubuntu likes my keybaord and mouse thru a kvm.. i cant even install cause the keybaord isnt working
[01:52] <jeroen_> nalioth: thanks
[01:52] <F> im too sexy 4 this chat!!!
[01:53] <F> b d bdzbfvdvhgz m
[01:53] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to get root in gnome?
[01:53] <Hoxzer> yoou are sexy 4 me
[01:53] <F> VIRUS@@@@@@@@333333333333333333333333 url sever 55534 ABORT!\
[01:53] <nalioths_dog> golgor: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:53] <Hoxzer> golgor: well there is root terminal if you mean that
[01:53] <inemo> aww what a pity, he left.
[01:54] <Hoxzer> you can open files with that as a root
[01:54] <nalioth> inemo: you know you were totally fascinated by F
[01:54] <nalioth> lol
[01:54] <inemo> yeah right nalioth
[01:54] <Sexy> im alone and sexy
[01:54] <inemo> Sexy: you virus reincarnated?
[01:55] <Sexy> inemo: you bitch reincarnated?
[01:55] <golgor> yea, im trying to install vlc and i have to edit sources.list to add their server but i dont have the right to do so :P
[01:55] <nalioth> golgor: use sudo
[01:55] <Sexy> well r u?
[01:55] <inemo> no but if you are alone and sexy you might need to visit #ineedadate
[01:55] <Hoxzer> I need real linux server
[01:55] <Hoxzer> laptop is pretty poor :D
[01:56] <nalioth> inemo: i thought that #ihavemyhand would be more fitting for Sexy
[01:56] <Sexy> Poor u (ignore inemo very rude)
[01:56] <inemo> nalioth: true
[01:56] <inemo> I was waiting for him in there as well 9.9
[01:57] <no_gatez_fan> any one run shorewall?
[01:59] <golgor> nalioth, query :P
[01:59] <nalioth> Nameless1: dja get your cdrdao sorted yesterday?
[01:59] <jeroen_> /etc/X/X11 is not executable
[02:00] <Hoxzer> jeroen: how old are you?
[02:00] <golgor> gah, i have no idea to use sudo at all, can anyone explain how it works?
[02:00] <nalioth> jeroen_: do you have X11?
[02:00] <Nameless1> amsn has gone screwy on me can someone tell me how to force it to close even tho its not responding
[02:01] <nalioth> golgor: open a terminal and any command you would use from a root terminal, type sudo <command> instead
[02:01] <jeroen_> nalioth: I do
[02:01] <eyequeue> jeroen_:  breezy?  see where the symlink points, it may need to be moved
[02:01] <jeroen_> eyequeue: breezy, yes
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> Nameless1 xkill
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> ?
[02:01] <jeroen_> you mean they change the location?
[02:01] <hac> What is better ,Aterm or Eterm?
[02:02] <no_gatez_fan> then click on it
[02:02] <eyequeue> jeroen_:  between -33 and -34 i had that problem. they're moving a number of x related things yes
[02:02] <nalioth> hac: matter of opinion, but eterm is more configureable
[02:02] <golgor> nalioth, query pls?
[02:02] <nalioth> golgor: ask
[02:02] <golgor> i am
[02:03] <eyequeue> jeroen_:  my guess is that -35 may move things as well :)
[02:03] <Xenguy> hac: aterm is leaner AFAIK
[02:03] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: can you answer my question: how old are you?
[02:03] <nalioth> Hoxzer: old enough
[02:04] <NatF-UQI> so im guessing by that ur what, 11?
[02:04] <NatF-UQI> 12 maybe? :P
[02:04] <Hoxzer> :D old enought for getting raped with fat cock niah niah naah naah
[02:04] <nalioth> NatF-UQI: how did you know? 11.5 years
[02:05] <golgor> im started using this yesterday, i have to edit the sources.list file. i can get root in terminal but dont know how to open files from termial
[02:05] <xerxas> hi
[02:05] <NatF-UQI> *bangs head on desk* lol
[02:05] <golgor> and no idea how to get access to edit the files from gnome
[02:05] <Hoxzer> "can I have some chicken plz" "We have only cock today" "Oh noh!!! what are doing?!!?!"
[02:05] <nalioth> golgor: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:05] <xerxas> I updated yesterday my breezy and cannot boot X anymore
[02:05] <xerxas> But this time cannot fix the problem
[02:05] <eyequeue> golgor:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:05] <nalioth> golgor: use the terminal
[02:06] <golgor> at last, thanks guys :)
[02:06] <xerxas> does anyone know or have an idea what's going on ?
[02:06] <xerxas> I didn't find anything on forums nor on lists
[02:06] <eyequeue> golgor:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, if you need a non-gui editor
[02:06] <xerxas> and quickly checked bugzilla but didn't find nothing
[02:06] <oz__> xerxas: are you using a nvidia card?
[02:07] <eyequeue> xerxas:  i had to revert to -33, -34 seems beyond hope
[02:07] <xerxas> oz__: nope
[02:07] <xerxas> eyequeue: I don't have any usefull log
[02:07] <xerxas> oz__: i830 I think or 845 maybe
[02:08] <xerxas> eyequeue: I'm on breezy since it's begining and got used to fix X problems
[02:08] <eyequeue> xerxas:  nor i.  experimentation with selective upgrades/downgrades here
[02:08] <xerxas> with fonts, links ...
[02:08] <eyequeue> xerxas:  heh, yeah :-/
[02:08] <xerxas> eyequeue:  how do I do that ?
[02:08] <inemo> Hoxzer: hi
[02:08] <xerxas> apt-get install xserver-xorg/33 ?
[02:08] <xerxas> apt-get downgrade ?
[02:09] <eyequeue> xerxas:  first, i think your /etc/X11/X symlink needs changing, but i had troubles past that too
[02:09] <xerxas> eyequeue:  so I did :)
[02:09] <xerxas> I relinked it correctly also
[02:09] <xerxas> ...
[02:09] <xerxas> but then I have a strange error at X launch
[02:09] <xerxas> the same you have I suppose
[02:10] <xerxas> "Caught Signal 11"
[02:10] <Hoxzer> inemo: hi
[02:10] <xerxas> eyequeue:  how did you downgrade ?
[02:10] <inemo> hows life Hoxzer ?
[02:10] <golgor> anyone know how to install vlc?
[02:10] <eyequeue> xerxas:  well, i used sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*_6.8.2-33_*.deb
[02:11] <xerxas> eyequeue:  humm
[02:11] <xerxas> hope I didn't apg-get clean :)
[02:11] <Hoxzer> inemo: booring :<
[02:11] <inemo> haha
[02:11] <eyequeue> xerxas:  and i had to force some things between xlibs-data and libx11-6
[02:12] <Hoxzer> and im  irritated becouse my mom shutdowned my shell server and I can't acces to qnet :
[02:12] <xerxas> yep
[02:12] <xerxas> seems clear
[02:12] <xerxas> that's all what it's about I think so
[02:13] <Hoxzer> also yesterday I lost all my important files becouse I tryed to repair winXP install :D
[02:13] <Hoxzer> well at least I find out when WinXP betray you dont trust it anymore
[02:13] <xerxas> eyequeue:  did you reverted the link ?
[02:13] <neospy> golgor: I am pretty sure you can install through synaptic
[02:14] <Hoxzer> *found  and betrays even
[02:14] <eyequeue> xerxas:  yes
[02:15] <xerxas> seems to work with libX11-6 and the link not reverted :)
[02:15] <eyequeue> xerxas:  about 4 times during my experiments, heh
[02:15] <xerxas> humm
[02:15] <xerxas> then i doesn't anymore ?
[02:16] <xerxas> because of shared memory  ?
[02:18] <xerxas> eyequeue:  you forced the removal of libx11-6 ?
[02:18] <neospy> gologor:  It does work i just installed VLC
[02:19] <eyequeue> xerxas:  well, the previous version didn't have the versioned depends (per examining its changelog.Debian) so i reverted to that one
[02:21] <xerxas> humm
[02:21] <eyequeue> xerxas:  adding to the confusion, there's a new x-common package that i think changes some symlinks (such as /usr/bin/X11 to ..)
[02:21] <xerxas> don't really understand
[02:21] <xerxas> but now , i can't dpkg -i xlibs-data cause it conflicts with libx11-6
[02:21] <xerxas> but can't dpkg -r libx11-6 because too much things depends on it
[02:22] <xerxas> did you force the removal ?
[02:22] <eyequeue> xerxas:  if you did, i might have you fix x for us :) (i think only the devs understand x today, and even then i have my doubts)
[02:22] <xerxas> without deps ?
[02:22] <hac> How Can I disable the beep in the terminal?
[02:22] <eyequeue> xerxas:  no, i forced a downgrade via dpkg -i again
[02:23] <xerxas> k
[02:23] <xerxas> thanks
[02:23] <eyequeue> hac:  ^A^G if under screen(1)
[02:23] <Suepahfly> is there an _easy_ way to get all the buttons of my mx1000 working?
[02:23] <genbie> Hi, anyone knows if I can easily upgrade a remote Sarge server to Ubuntu?
[02:23] <xerxas> hac:  in /etc/inputrc
[02:23] <xerxas> set bell-style visual
[02:23] <xerxas> or
[02:23] <xerxas> set bell-style none
[02:24] <xerxas> visual make a white flicker on the screen instead of beeps
[02:25] <hac> xerxas, I tried but i back to the beep,its horrible :/
[02:26] <xunil_> samuelk@Linux-Computer:~/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c$ makecd . && make -f admin/Makefile.common configure.in ;make[1] : Entering directory `/home/samuelk/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c'
[02:26] <xunil_> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/samuelk/Themes/Window deco/baghira-0.6c'cd . && aclocal-1.6/bin/sh: aclocal-1.6: command not foundmake: *** [aclocal.m4]  Error 127
[02:26] <xunil_> how do i fix that error?
[02:26] <xerxas> hac:  ?
[02:26] <xunil_> i have aclocal-1.4
[02:26] <xerxas> eyequeue:  humm , don't seem to be able to downgrade
[02:26] <xerxas> am I stupid ?
[02:26] <eyequeue> xerxas:  no, i think i had to force some things manually
[02:27] <xerxas> eyequeue:  k
[02:29] <xunil_> how do i link the aclocal command to aclocal-1.6?
[02:30] <bulletproof> hey, guys I have asked this before but the answer I got didn't work! how do I permanently change the path for any user who logs on to the machine
[02:30] <bulletproof> ?
[02:32] <bulletproof> hey, guys I have asked this before but the answer I got didn't work! how do I permanently change the path for any user who logs on to the machine
[02:35] <bulletproof> any1 talking today?
[02:38] <neospy> @ bulletproof i dont know the answer to your problem
[02:39] <neospy> but plenty of people were talking before you showed up......
[02:42] <itz> How can i change resolution or hz to login screen?   everytime im comming to loginscreen my monitor doesnt feel to good. its not made for that high resulotion with 75hz
[02:42] <no_gatez_fan> bulletproof just home directory or what
[02:42] <xunil_> how do i kill X?
[02:42] <inemo> going to college now...bye :D
[02:42] <bcc|grave> itz, you should change the resolution in your xorg.conf
[02:42] <itz> bcc|grave,  k i try
[02:43] <bulletproof> no_gatez_fan: no ineed to add jdk/bin
[02:43] <bulletproof> no_gatez_fan: normally on other distros it would just go in bas_profile but that don't work
[02:43] <xunil_> how do i kill X?
[02:44] <bcc|grave> itz, don't forget to backup first ;)
[02:44] <tvo> xunil_: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it if that's what you mean
[02:44] <itz> xorg.conf's location is?
[02:44] <bulletproof> no_gatez_fan: bashrc seems to have done it - thanks anyhow
[02:44] <xunil_> no i whant to kill it so i can install my nvidia driver
[02:44] <xunil_> but cant find x in ps aux
[02:45] <Tsukasa> xunil_, you can simply log off
[02:45] <Tsukasa> or kill gdm
[02:45] <xunil_> k
[02:45] <no_gatez_fan> bulletproof ok good...sorry i was trying to get shorewall turned on
[02:45] <no_gatez_fan> any ideas anyone
[02:45] <no_gatez_fan> ?
[02:46] <lhb> !shorewall
[02:46] <ubotu> lhb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:47] <itz> bcc|grave,  etc.x11 is that the one
[02:47] <no_gatez_fan> i want to get shorewall running... :(
[02:48] <nameless1_> a friend of mine is tryin to install ubuntu but he needs to setup his lan driver and he installed ndiswrapper 1.2    and he needs a kernel module thing for it to work can someone tell me the exact apt-get  so that i can just tell him. as he is not here in person im chatin to him over msn
[02:48] <nameless1_> (he has 2 comps thats how im chatin to him)
[02:49] <Originoo> hey, where i can find the kernel-sources in ubuntu?
[02:49] <deltron> i think it's called linux-source
[02:50] <deltron> just like linux-image
[02:50] <Originoo> deltron: thx
[02:50] <deltron> np
[02:50] <ja> hi.when i'm closing synaptic i have little windows :changing user PLEASE ENTER YOUR PASSWORD.why i have this window ?
[02:51] <bulletproof> You know in windows you can change the host file which acts like a local DNS so that certain domain names can be mapped to IPs - can I do a similar thing in linux/ubuntu - or firefox
[02:51] <djp> does anyone know if gnusound is better than audacity? i gather gnusound is the default sound ediotr in ubuntu?
[02:52] <bulletproof> Originoo: is there not a repository for them?
[02:52] <bulletproof> Originoo: nevamind ur sorted now
[02:59] <acid2_> oh sweet!
[02:59] <acid2_> an ardour package!
[02:59] <acid2_> :)
[03:01] <ateves> hi, is there something like the KDE personal information manager for gnome?
[03:01] <Scroopy> im a noob, please be kind
[03:04] <bulletproof> You know in windows you can change the host file which acts like a local DNS so that certain domain names can be mapped to IPs - can I do a similar thing in linux/ubuntu - or firefox
[03:04] <jansen> i had some problem
[03:04] <Scroopy> hey people, i have just installed ubuntu literally 20mins ago and it smy first linux OS
[03:05] <spamalope> yup
[03:05] <Scroopy> i am just wondering how to hook up my 2 250GB hdds
[03:05] <Poromies> congrats Scroopy
[03:05] <Scroopy> so i can access the file son them
[03:06] <jansen> W: GPG error: when i apt-get update
[03:06] <deltron> Scroopy: congrats.  you need to mount the drives now.
[03:07] <Scroopy> how?
[03:08] <Scroopy> how i mount hdds
[03:08] <Whistler> www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:09] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to install packages i've downloaded to home/$user?
[03:09] <Tsukasa> golgor, deb packages can be installed by sudo dpkg -i <packetname>
[03:09] <bulletproof> golgor: are they .tar.gz
[03:09] <Scroopy> guess i wont mount them then
[03:09] <golgor> no, .deb
[03:11] <plovs> I want to create a meta-package that pulls another package and then overwrites the conf-files in etc. I use "Replaces: <packagename>", but still get a complaint: trying to overwrite `/etc/tinyp etc
[03:11] <plovs> what is wrong?
[03:11] <djp> Scroopy: try here... http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Mounting_drives
[03:12] <Scroopy> thanks
[03:13] <Scroopy> this is all too friggin confusing
[03:14] <Scroopy> :'(
[03:18] <Whistler> can anybody recomend any linux rpg game?
[03:19] <bulletproof> got a problem, firefox has stopped working ever since I tried to install the newer version using aptget, I can't install it, and I can't remove it coz it says its not installed
[03:19] <Trace> Hello, Does anyone here know how ubuntu do its hardware detection?
[03:20] <acid2_> what program can I use to record my desktop to a flash file/video?
[03:20] <PBeck> hi
[03:20] <bulletproof> whistler: use zsnes and play all the old snes ones : zelda, lufia, chrono trigger they're all awesome
[03:21] <Whistler> i wanna new games
[03:21] <Whistler> :)
[03:23] <bulletproof> whistler: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Games/Role_Play/index.shtml can't say I have played any of them though
[03:23] <wdh> anyone knows of a plugin for gaim that allows one to send offline messages on MSN? Meaning that it keeps the message in queue and sends it when that person comes online?
[03:25] <acid2_> wdh, not that I know of, sorry
[03:26] <wdh> guess i should get back to centericq then :P
[03:26] <samuelk> how do i gett kernel-sourcE?
[03:27] <wdh> samuelk, sudo apt-get install linux-source iirc
[03:28] <luzbelito> hi to everyone
[03:28] <Whistler> hi
[03:28] <wdh> samuelk, and use apt-cache search linux-source to find the correct versionnumber
[03:28] <bulletproof> firefox is broken and I can't reinstall it with either apt-get or by dloading the package from mozilla.org
[03:28] <luzbelito> i need to make a question: i had installed ubuntu in a partition and windows in another one
[03:28] <luzbelito> can i format windows without cleaning MBR (master boot record)
[03:28] <luzbelito> ???
[03:29] <luzbelito> anyone?
[03:30] <paulfox> hey all, i don't suppose anyone has experience with a d-link wireless bridge? (DWL 810+) i've configured it, but can't get any signal from it at all
[03:31] <samuelk> it says i already have it but the nvidia says they cant find the kernel-source tree i could use the --kernel-source-path if i knew there to point to..
[03:32] <luzbelito> samuel: i had the same problem
[03:32] <jamey3> What are the best Ubuntu resources? So far I've found only the official Wiki useful.
[03:32] <samuelk> how did you fix it=
[03:32] <samuelk> ?
[03:32] <luzbelito> samuel: is not a package i suppose. because i looked it but no answer
[03:32] <poningru> jamey3: this channel
[03:32] <luzbelito> samuel: i can't fixed it yet
[03:32] <poningru> jamey3: the forum
[03:33] <poningru> and there is the docs
[03:33] <poningru> oh also ubuntuguide.org
[03:33] <jamey3> poningru, for some reason I completely overlooked ubuntuforums.org
[03:33] <samuelk> k
[03:33] <Whistler> how can i install sdl?
[03:33] <jamey3> ubuntuguide.org "apparently" isn't as good as the Wiki
[03:33] <jamey3> Where are the docs?
[03:33] <poningru> hold on
[03:33] <jamey3> ok thanks
[03:33] <samuelk> any one know where the kernel-source tree are?
[03:34] <Whistler> anybody knows how can i install sdl?
[03:34] <poningru> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/
[03:34] <jamey3> poningru, thanks a lot
[03:34] <moea> i am trying to run "apt-get update" on the ubuntu live-cd, but i'm getting an error - assertion failed: lower file != NULL...'
[03:34] <luzbelito> moea: did you check sources.list ?
[03:36] <samuelk> do ubuntu use kernel or linux ?
[03:39] <klaym> samuelk: ?!
[03:39] <klaym> ubuntu uses the linux kernel
[03:39] <samuelk> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[03:40] <moea> luzbelito: where does sources.list live?
[03:40] <samuelk> hoto..
[03:40] <alchemist0405> moea, /etc/apt/
[03:40] <luzbelito> /etc/apt
[03:41] <luzbelito> thanks alchemist
[03:41] <moea> im not sure whats wrong with it though, it has three lines, acthive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, and two people.ubuntu.com/~lamont lines
[03:41] <alchemist0405> luzbelito, np
[03:42] <luzbelito> moea
[03:42] <JHK> hi there, i want a file including a console command that i can execute in nautilus. how?
[03:42] <luzbelito> wait a minute
[03:43] <luzbelito> moea
[03:43] <luzbelito> are you connected to internet with linux?
[03:44] <moea> im on freebsd now, but the livecd machine is on the internet
[03:44] <luzbelito> ok
[03:44] <luzbelito> take a look
[03:44] <luzbelito> if you has a line like this: root@lenin:/etc/apt # more sources.list
[03:44] <luzbelito> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[03:45] <moea> all of the lines are URLs in my sources.list
[03:45] <James686> luzbelito I need help installing Ubuntu
[03:45] <alchemist0405> can grub be reinstalled from install cd or does that have to happen from the livecd?
[03:46] <luzbelito> ok james just ask
[03:46] <luzbelito> moea
[03:46] <luzbelito> moea: if you wanna to install from live cd
[03:46] <luzbelito> or cd
[03:46] <luzbelito> you need a line that says: deb cdrom
[03:46] <JDigital`> Where is the Trash can located in the filesystem-- oh I found it, never mind
[03:47] <moea> i dont, i want to install a package from the internet
[03:47] <moea> i have lost the install CD, i'm trying to install ubuntu from the live CD
[03:47] <James686> well I just copied the files to a blank CD, I insert it in my primary CD drive, and I did set it to be used first on reboot, but it doesnt go anywhere...
[03:47] <jpfarias_> hi
[03:47] <James686> either I just wasted a blank CD or Im doin somethin wrong...
[03:48] <jpfarias_> can someone help me to setup my keyboard
[03:48] <luzbelito> james: check your BIOS booting preferences
[03:48] <James686> I did
[03:48] <samuelk> how do i mount a *.iso file in shell?
[03:48] <luzbelito> moea: make a ping -c to url
[03:48] <jpfarias_> on my keyboard,  the question sign is AltGr+W
[03:48] <James686> what else should I change in my boot settings?
[03:48] <jpfarias_> but it does not appear when I press it
[03:48] <Trace> hello, samuelk, mount -o loop *.iso "a dircetory you create"
[03:49] <luzbelito> james: check booting preferences
[03:50] <James686> fine I will, I'll return
[03:50] <luzbelito> james: wich device boots 1st, 2nd
[03:50] <James686> yeah
[03:50] <James686> CD boots first
[03:50] <luzbelito> james: so cd is not well burned
[03:51] <GrayStone> Hello everyone.
[03:51] <James686> what did I do wrong???
[03:51] <luzbelito> hi gray
[03:51] <luzbelito> james: did you download .iso image?
[03:51] <GrayStone> How do I find out what the password is for SU mode in my install of Ubuntu?
[03:51] <terra1> hey guys
[03:51] <James686> I just copied the files directly from the folder
[03:51] <GrayStone> Hi Luzbelito.
[03:51] <terra1> GrayStone, it's hard to find out but just do a sudo as a normal user and enter that user's password, then do an passwd and set the password on your own
[03:52] <James686> wait, did it matter if I just downloaded it w/ out saving it and I just extracted the files?
[03:53] <luzbelito> james: download iso image from www.ubuntu.com and burn it like image cd (nero)
[03:53] <James686> wouldnt the .iso image come w/ the installation package?
[03:53] <Trinitrogen> How can I get curses.h?
[03:53] <luzbelito> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
[03:53] <luzbelito> sorry that is the web
[03:54] <luzbelito> james: check it in the folder, look for .iso files
[03:54] <GrayStone> Thanks terra1.  But that seems totally greek to me. LOL
[03:54] <terra1> ok GrayStone sorry ;)
[03:54] <GrayStone> I am Totally new at Linux.
[03:54] <terra1> yes ok sorry ;)
[03:54] <terra1> open a terminal
[03:54] <James686> I created a boot.iso image to it using MagicISO
[03:54] <GrayStone> ok
[03:55] <luzbelito> james: where you download it ?
[03:55] <acid2_> lo
[03:55] <James686> MagicISO?
[03:55] <terra1> GrayStone, now enter "sudo bash"
[03:55] <James686> I dont really remember the link lol
[03:55] <luzbelito> james: use this http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[03:55] <GrayStone> ok
[03:55] <terra1> oh fuck
[03:55] <terra1> graystone iam sorry
[03:55] <terra1> i read your question the wrong way
[03:55] <terra1> the SU password is just your first user's password
[03:56] <acid2_> "/dev/hdb5	/mnt/windows	ntfs	defaults,user	0	0" Is that the correct entry in fstab to automount my windows partition?
[03:56] <James686> luzbelito, thats the folder I extracted..
[03:56] <luzbelito> james: but you must dont extract it, burn it to cd
[03:57] <jpfarias_> someone help me with my keyboard
[03:57] <jpfarias_> please
[03:57] <James686> I cant extract it then burn the files I extract to a CD?
[03:57] <acid2_> jpfarias_, looks fine to me
[03:57] <jpfarias_> I need to setup altgr key
[03:57] <luzbelito> james: no, burn 1st
[03:57] <James686> ahhh I see
[03:57] <James686> whats the difference?
[03:57] <jpfarias_> acid2_, the question sign is altgr + w
[03:57] <luzbelito> acid: wich permissions you want?
[03:57] <James686> doesnt it extract EVERY file in the folder?
[03:58] <jpfarias_> acid2_, I can't type any question mark right now
[03:58] <MattF> Travis here?
[03:58] <samuelk> any one have a cd key for ut2004?
[03:58] <samuelk> dont have wine installed
[03:58] <Seveas> samuelk, wrong channel...
[03:58] <jpfarias_> acid2_, this is the key I miss most
[03:58] <acid2_> samuelk, take your warez elsewhere
[03:58] <samuelk> k sorry.
[03:58] <luzbelito> james: is a big difference
[03:59] <jpfarias_> acid2_, is there a way to make only it work
[03:59] <James686> how?
[03:59] <acid2_> how do I know?
[03:59] <acid2_> All I said is that it looked fine to me
[03:59] <James686> so right now I have to re-download the OS, but save it to my desktop instead of just opening it, right?
[04:00] <luzbelito> james: if you download a iso file, keep it in a directory. then burn to cd
[04:00] <James686> Is Ubuntu really worth the download?
[04:00] <aCiD2> hell yea
[04:01] <James686> lol Im sure its slick
[04:01] <James686> can you play PC games on it?
[04:01] <Seveas> some
[04:01] <aCiD2> some
[04:01] <James686> lol
[04:01] <aCiD2> which games you want to play?
[04:01] <Seveas> cedega is good at playing games
[04:01] <James686> Sims 2?
[04:01] <GrayStone> BRB everyone.
[04:02] <aCiD2> James686, you the one that posted on the ubuntuforums?
[04:02] <aCiD2> :P
[04:02] <James686> ummm no lol
[04:02] <James686> I never posted there yet
[04:02] <James686> why?
[04:02] <aCiD2> ah, someone else wanted to run sim 2
[04:02] <aCiD2> sims2
[04:02] <James686> oh so you cant?
[04:02] <aCiD2> anyway, I think Cedega is capable of running it
[04:02] <luzbelito> i don't think ubuntu can run sims 2
[04:02] <Seveas> http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[04:03] <Seveas> check that
[04:03] <James686> that sucks that you need to download a program to get to install a game...
[04:03] <Tsukasa> well James686, that goes without saying
[04:03] <aCiD2> not really..
[04:03] <jamey3> James686, most things suck
[04:03] <Tsukasa> windows != linux
[04:03] <aCiD2> bare in mind that the Sims 2 wasnt even developed for Linux
[04:03] <Tsukasa> so you shouldn't exspect for linux to run every windows app
[04:03] <aCiD2> and yea, what Tsukasa said
[04:03] <James686> that IS true
[04:04] <jamey3> if you want more native Linux games, go complain to EA
[04:04] <aCiD2> infact, you shouldnt expect it to run any (and you should find alternatives)
[04:04] <aCiD2> jamey3, hehe :)
[04:04] <luzbelito> stop playing sims 2 and use yout time for any better ;-)
[04:04] <Tsukasa> yeah, wine is great, even though all of us complain a bit :)
[04:04] <aCiD2> I was going to suggest finding a REAL game ;)
[04:04] <Seveas> like sims 3 :)
[04:04] <James686> I actually dont play it much I was just wonderin if it plays that lol
[04:05] <James686> and I dont even have to worry about it since that game is comin out for all consoles, w/ even more features
[04:05] <James686> even Half-Life 2 is comin out for Xbox
[04:05] <James686> which will probably suck...
[04:05] <aCiD2> :/
[04:05] <Tsukasa> Half Life 2 is a game that runs nice on cedega ^^
[04:05] <aCiD2> Yep
[04:05] <James686> is it?
[04:06] <Tsukasa> hell yeah
[04:06] <Tsukasa> :D
[04:06] <samuelk> MUD roxx..
[04:06] <aCiD2> hehe
[04:06] <aCiD2> :)
[04:06] <James686> lol better than Windows? lol
[04:06] <Tsukasa> nah, not better
[04:06] <aCiD2> about the same with an nVidia card
[04:06] <Tsukasa> but surprisingly not worse
[04:06] <Tsukasa> well, not _much_ worse
[04:06] <aCiD2> basically, its not noceiably worse
[04:06] <aCiD2> noticably too
[04:06] <jamey3> Tsukasa, it always sucked on Cedega for me. Radeon 9550, works fine in Windows
[04:06] <Tsukasa> x800, works nice
[04:07] <James686> Nvidia GeforceFX 5000
[04:07] <aCiD2> jamey3, do you have hardware accel?
[04:07] <James686> yes
[04:07] <jamey3> aCiD2, what do you mean!?
[04:07] <James686> I should
[04:07] <James686> lol
[04:07] <James686> ohhh
[04:07] <jamey3> it's a hardware accel card, like all cards nowadays
[04:07] <James686> woops
[04:07] <Shuddertrix> there's less annoying lag, too.
[04:07] <James686> lol
[04:07] <jamey3> and the drivers/modules were installed
[04:07] <aCiD2> jamey3, yes... but do YOU have hard accel on your linux box?
[04:07] <jamey3> but with an X800 and crap drivers it's gonna FLY, even "emulated"
[04:07] <jamey3> aCiD2, how the fuck is that different from that last question? ;) Sorry about my complete ignorance...
[04:07] <Tsukasa> that's definetively true
[04:08] <Tsukasa> the ati drivers are like a punishment
[04:08] <Originoo> which packages do i need to install, if i wain to use other lenguages with gnome?
[04:08] <aCiD2> jamey3, calm down man.. all i wandered was if you had hardware accel on linux :/
[04:08] <Originoo> wain=want
[04:08] <James686> II have a question, being that Ubuntu is completely free and open source, is it better than Windows?
[04:09] <aCiD2> yes
[04:09] <aCiD2> well
[04:09] <aCiD2> its down to opinion
[04:09] <aCiD2> but
[04:09] <aCiD2> yes
[04:09] <aCiD2> :P
[04:09] <jamey3> yes it is
[04:09] <jamey3> :P
[04:09] <jamey3> much
[04:09] <James686> LOL
[04:09] <jamey3> much better
[04:09] <aCiD2> i personally think much better
[04:09] <moparfan90> whats Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client
[04:09] <jamey3> well we are all in agreement then
[04:09] <Seveas> James686, technically Linux is superior to windows
[04:09] <James686> I already wasted 2 CDs on trying to install it :-(
[04:09] <jamey3> any M$ monkeys around here?
[04:09] <Tsukasa> Let's say it this way: For desktop and multimedia its equal to windows
[04:09] <aCiD2> im a .NET whore
[04:09] <Seveas> and with Ubuntu, Linux finally is usable
[04:09] <Seveas> aCiD2, mono :)
[04:10] <aCiD2> duh
[04:10] <aCiD2> thats what im using
[04:10] <moparfan90> hello. whats "Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client"
[04:10] <jamey3> Tsukasa, I would tend to disagree
[04:10] <Seveas> moparfan90, pppoeconf
[04:10] <jamey3> with a bit of perserverance you can get all multimedia codecs to work
[04:10] <jamey3> games is the obvious bummer
[04:10] <jamey3> but for people who don't play games, it's excellent
[04:10] <moparfan90> whats that mean?
[04:10] <Seveas> but that's not Linux' fault
[04:10] <jamey3> Seveas, exactly
[04:10] <aCiD2> im a game developer and find it just as powerful for games
[04:10] <jamey3> just stupid non-free stuff
[04:10] <Tsukasa> jamey3, that's what I wanted to express :)
[04:10] <Seveas> moparfan90, that's the command to configure pppoe/adsl
[04:10] <James686> and Im not MUCH of a gamer...so Im aight
[04:11] <jamey3> aCiD2, now we just need more native Linux games
[04:11] <aCiD2> jamey3, amen
[04:11] <jamey3> Tsukasa, cool :P
[04:11] <Seveas> supertux & frozen bubble is enough for me
[04:11] <jamey3> James686, same here :D
[04:11] <aCiD2> frozen bubble \o/
[04:11] <jamey3> Seveas, lol I love those games
[04:11] <jmjones> bzflag
[04:11] <jmjones> you gotta play bzflag
[04:11] <Seveas> jamey3, found the secret place already?
[04:11] <moparfan90> seveas: what does the progrm do. im confused
[04:11] <James686> I'll deal w/ the games that comes w/ Ubuntu :d
[04:11] <James686> :-)
[04:12] <James686> Doom 3 for Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Seveas> moparfan90, you can configure all your pppoe settings with it
[04:12] <moparfan90> o
[04:12] <jmjones> just installed and tried unreal tournament 2004 demo - it seems to work OK
[04:12] <Tsukasa> James686, there's an official client for linux
[04:12] <Tsukasa> by idsoft
[04:12] <aCiD2> Neverwinter nights!
[04:12] <jmjones> with the newer ati drivers
[04:12] <Shuddertrix> James686: There's a official linux client, works wonderfully.
[04:12] <James686> REALLY
[04:12] <aCiD2> yup
[04:12] <jmjones> the fglrx drivers in hoary are busted
[04:12] <aCiD2> and an official ut2k4
[04:12] <James686> awesome, most powerful game ever, supports Linux
[04:12] <Shuddertrix> Also, unreal tournament 2k3/2k4, etc.
[04:12] <Tsukasa> yeah, and there's RtcW:ET as well :)
[04:13] <James686> thats too cool
[04:13] <aCiD2> jmjones, no, they aren't
[04:13] <jmjones> they don't work right for my video card
[04:13] <aCiD2> well, ive got it all working anyway
[04:13] <jmjones> i had to install the latest from ati
[04:13] <James686> I wonder how Doom 3 would run on Ubuntu...
[04:13] <moparfan90> anyone have doom3 linux
[04:13] <jmjones> i've got the x300 mobility
[04:13] <aCiD2> James686, not baddly
[04:13] <Tsukasa> yeah, I've Doom 3 installed
[04:13] <aCiD2> infact, about the same id guess
[04:13] <Shuddertrix> James686: It runs just as well on Linux.
[04:13] <James686> bet you need 1 gig of RAM huh?
[04:13] <aCiD2> (no reason why it shouldnt)
[04:13] <Tsukasa> I've a little issue with sound though
[04:14] <samuelk> how do i download wine
[04:14] <jmjones> now that i have UT installed and working, my wife will *never* see me :-)
[04:14] <Shuddertrix> I have 512mb and it gets around 20-30fps at my regular settings, which is good enough since i'm used to playing at 10fps in most games with my older systems i've had.
[04:14] <James686> does Ubuntu really come w/ Firefox and Thunderbird preinstalled?
[04:14] <Seveas> yes James686
[04:14] <Seveas> well, ff
[04:14] <Seveas> not tb
[04:14] <James686> NICE
[04:14] <Shuddertrix> Tested it with 1gb, never went below 35fps
[04:14] <James686> I thought it does!
[04:15] <Seveas> Ubuntu has evolution by default
[04:15] <golgor> anyone know how to get the sound to work with nforce 2?
[04:15] <Seveas> but thunderbird is exremely easy to install :)
[04:15] <jamey3> James686, it doesn't come with Thunderbird but it's easily installed through the package manager or apt-get
[04:15] <jamey3> oops sorry didn't see that ^^ :P
[04:15] <James686> yeah but I looked at screenshots and it showed this one popup menu that lets you choose those things to install plus OpenOffice
[04:15] <Shuddertrix> Thunderbird? Pfft. Sylpheed is all you need.
[04:16] <James686> same here lol
[04:16] <jmjones> sylpheed is nice - not as pretty as thunderbird, but AFAIK, you can't manage multiple profiles with it.
[04:16] <jmjones> if you can, please tell me and i'll likely switch.
[04:16] <jamey3> jmjones, manage multiple profiles with Thunderbird or Sylpheed?
[04:16] <jmjones> sylpheed
[04:16] <Shuddertrix> Who really needs more then one email address, anyways?
[04:16] <golgor> anyone know how alien works, installing rpm packages
[04:16] <jmjones> tbird does
[04:16] <Shuddertrix> :P
[04:16] <jamey3> jmjones oh
[04:16] <jamey3> no idea :P
[04:17] <jamey3> Shuddertrix, my thoughts exactly
[04:17] <jmjones> it's not just email address - it's when i'm on my lan, i want to connect to my server direct.  when i'm at work, i want to connect a different way
[04:17] <aCiD2> does that slypheed thing have rss?
[04:17] <Mystery> i need some help with the sound in ubuntu
[04:17] <Mystery> it doesn't seem to work
[04:18] <Mystery> i'm using a ectiva audio card
[04:18] <James686> oh, is it easy to install a wireless network from a Linksys wireless router on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <Mystery> can anyone help? please?
[04:18] <Trace> hello, Mystery, which sound driver do you use?
[04:18] <Shuddertrix> aCiD2: I don't think so. I have one email address (that uses pop/imap) and no need for rss, so it's perfect for me.
[04:18] <mwe> golgor, alien is supposed to convert the rpm to a deb isn't it
[04:18] <aCiD2> Shuddertrix, ah
[04:18] <Shuddertrix> I get the gtk fonts fixed, and it will replace mozilla-mail for me.
[04:18] <golgor> yea mve, but i dont know how it works
[04:18] <Tsukasa> James686, wifi + linux can be pretty tough sometimes :)
[04:19] <mwe> golgor, at least that's how I've used it
[04:19] <golgor> i found the packages with drivers for my nf2 but its in rpm
[04:19] <Mystery> trace, it
[04:19] <James686> shit for real...
[04:19] <jmjones> gtkwifi
[04:19] <Trace> what?
[04:19] <Mystery> *it's
[04:19] <James686> I HAVE to have that installed
[04:19] <mwe> golgor, then use alien to convert it to a deb then dpkg -i to install it
[04:19] <jmjones> if you're doing wireless, you need gtkwifi
[04:19] <James686> how will I be able to install the wireless network card when its installed?
[04:19] <jmjones> it rocks
[04:19] <golgor> yea but how mve :P
[04:19] <Mystery> i'm not sure about the driver
[04:19] <golgor> im new to this
[04:19] <Seveas> James686, do you know which chipset your wifi card uses?
[04:19] <jmjones> James686: is this on a laptop?
[04:19] <James686> how can I get it w/ out the internet?
[04:20] <James686> no Desktop
[04:20] <Trace> ok, do you use Ubuntu?
[04:20] <James686> Im going to
[04:20] <Mystery> yes, otherwise i wouldn't be here
[04:20] <Trace> sudo alasaconf
[04:20] <Seveas> James686, you will probably need ndiswrapper
[04:20] <yahalom> how do i find out what my gateway ip is?
[04:20] <Seveas> yahalom, route
[04:20] <James686> how will I get it?
[04:20] <Trace> do you have alsaconf?
[04:20] <Seveas> James686, it's on the cd
[04:21] <James686> its gonna be easier to read the CD once I have Ubuntu? lol
[04:21] <jmjones> has anyone grabbed video off of a camcorder via firewire?
[04:21] <Mystery> trace, alsamixer is only thing i can find
[04:21] <yahalom> Seveas, I'm trying to see my routers firmware. Any ideas?
[04:21] <Mystery> i'm a sorter noob to ubuntu, so you might need to explain a bit more
[04:21] <Mystery> srry
[04:21] <Trace> ok, apt-cache search alsaconf and apt-get install alsaconf
[04:22] <Trace> first, can you open an terminal?
[04:22] <Mystery> trace, not that much of a noob :P
[04:22] <Trace> and then, apt-cache search alsaconf
[04:23] <Mystery> comes up with "alsa-utils - ALSA utilities"
[04:23] <Trace> and then , you may install alsaconf, sudo apt-get install alsaconf
[04:23] <James686> ok when the Ubuntu program finishes installing, will I have to install the files only? or the folder of them?
[04:23] <djp> jmjones: kino?
[04:24] <Mystery> done
[04:24] <Mystery> now what?
[04:24] <Trace> and try to run "sudo alsaconf"
[04:24] <jmjones> djp: yeah - i'm doing it - just wondered if anyone has had problems.  i had to chmod my /dev/raw1394
[04:24] <Mystery> command not found :S
[04:25] <Trace> whereis alsaconf
[04:25] <Trace> type command "whereis alsaconf"
[04:25] <djp> jmjones: oh ok. sorry don't have firewire and never used kino. good luck.
[04:25] <Mystery> nowhere
[04:25] <Mystery> lol
[04:25] <Mystery> doesn't come up with a directory
[04:25] <bulletproof> can someone help me! PLEASE I seem to have broken mozilla and firefox and can't reinstall them coz of dependency problems!!
[04:25] <aCiD2> bulletproof, calm down
[04:25] <jmjones> bulletproof: you need mutt and links
[04:26] <bulletproof> aCiD2: I'm pretty calm thanks :)
[04:26] <Trace> dpkg -L |grep alsa-utils
[04:26] <yahalom> my gateway only shows a * how do i find out what the ip is?
[04:26] <Trace> dpkg -L alsa-utils |grep alsaconf
[04:26] <Trace> sorry
[04:26] <Mystery> oh right
[04:26] <Mystery> install it first
[04:26] <blazint> t
[04:27] <Trace> can you see where alsaconf is?
[04:27] <bulletproof> jmjones: isn't that like getright - I have the gunzip for firefox from mozilla.org but that won't install either
[04:27] <bulletproof> jmjones: correction wget
[04:27] <jmjones> bulletproof: are you trying to install packages, or binaries from mozilla?
[04:28] <Mystery> done....i think
[04:28] <Mystery> it didn't show any progress or anything
[04:28] <bulletproof> jmjones: I was apt-getting orginally but when that didn't work I grabbed the bin for firefox from mozilla.org
[04:28] <Trace> sudo alsaconf?
[04:28] <Mystery> nope, nothing :
[04:29] <Trace> ......
[04:29] <Mystery> maybe i should install it from synaptic?
[04:29] <jmjones> bulletproof: what error are you getting when apt-getting?
[04:29] <bulletproof> firefox-gnome-support depends on firefox (= 1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5); however:
[04:29] <bulletproof>   Package firefox is not configured yet.
[04:29] <Trace> Good luck, i may not be able to help you .:-(
[04:30] <Mystery> fuck
[04:30] <luzbelito> wich one is the best movie player for linux ????
[04:30] <Shuddertrix> bulletproof: try mozilla-firefox
[04:30] <jmjones> luzbelito: xine
[04:30] <mwe> mplayer
[04:30] <Shuddertrix> luzbelito: Personal choice, that is.
[04:30] <Mystery> also
[04:30] <Mystery> i'm not sure
[04:30] <Mystery> if this will help you help me
[04:30] <cazabam> luzbelito, vlc :)
[04:30] <Shuddertrix> Xine, mplayer, gstreamer, vlc, realplay, etc.
[04:30] <Mystery> but, totem comes up with an error saying it has no plugin for wav or mp3 or any other format
[04:30] <bulletproof> jmjones: same err
[04:30] <cazabam> just to chuck another one in
[04:31] <Mystery> i have xine installed
[04:31] <aCiD2> luzbelito, I prefer xine
[04:31] <bulletproof> Shuddertrix: same err
[04:31] <Shuddertrix> hmm
[04:31] <cazabam> Mystery, sounds like your gstreamer registry is corrupt
[04:31] <cazabam> type gst-register-0.8 at a command prompt
[04:31] <Shuddertrix> comment out backports, sudo apt-get update, then try again
[04:31] <Mystery> i use xine not gstreamer
[04:31] <James686> now when I download the .iso image of Ubuntu, do I need a program to open up the file to see the files in it and then burn it to CD?
[04:31] <jmjones> Mystery: you need libdvdcss and w32codecs
[04:32] <jmjones> you can't get them in the main repos
[04:32] <James686> or do I just copy the file to the CD?
[04:32] <jmjones> bulletproof: what did you do around the time/before you couldn't upgrade/install?
[04:33] <Mystery> if ubuntu doesn
[04:33] <James686> plz I need to know this I already screwed up 2 CDs
[04:33] <Mystery> fucking small keyboard
[04:33] <Shuddertrix> James686: You have to burn the .iso with a program that can open it (windows: alcohol 120, nero, linux: gnomebaker, k3b, etc.)
[04:33] <Mystery> if ubuntu doesn't recognize the sound card, how do i manual set it up?'
[04:33] <James686> do I need to get a program to open the .iso file?
[04:34] <James686> will Alcohol 52% do?
[04:34] <Shuddertrix> James686: If it's the one that burns and not mounts, then yeah, that will work
[04:34] <bulletproof> jmjones: well orginally I tried to update firefox to version 1.04 but it stopped working - then i installed mozilla. I tried to reinstall firefox but I got errors as it said it couldn't overrite some firefox files from my previous installation. So I manualy dleted them and then mozilla stopped working too and I still couldn't install firefx :(
[04:35] <jmjones> bulletproof: what do you mean manually deleted?
[04:36] <bulletproof> I manually rm'ed the files it couldn't overwrite from the command line - I'm starting to regret that now
[04:36] <Rocha> Hello
[04:36] <Rocha> I'm trying to install a network printer
[04:36] <Rocha> How can I know if it uses SMB or CUPS ?
[04:36] <jmjones> bulletproof: yeah - manually deleting package files is a headache.
[04:37] <jmjones> Rocha: is it your printer, or at work?
[04:37] <Rocha> jmjones, at work
[04:37] <virtuald> bulletproof: try apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[04:37] <Mystery> so there's no help :(
[04:37] <jmjones> Rocha: can you ask the sysadmin or the person it belongs to?
[04:37] <Mystery> i got no idea how to get the sound to work...
[04:37] <Mystery> damnit
[04:38] <Rocha> jmjones, the sysadmin doesn't know
[04:38] <jmjones> Rocha: is it a printer attached to a windows machine?
[04:38] <Rocha> jmjones, it's a woman
[04:38] <jmjones> Rocha: does it matter that it's a woman?
[04:38] <mwe> sudo nohup rm -rf /
[04:38] <Rocha> jmjones, no, but she doesn't understand anything about system administration
[04:39] <Rocha> jmjones, i don't know if it's a windows machine
[04:39] <adamh> Has anybody here used Ubuntu's HostAP drivers? Do they work well? (I want to use a Prism2 card as a wireless access point)
[04:39] <jmjones> Rocha: then the problem is an incompetent sysadmin - not that she's a woman
[04:39] <Rocha> jmjones, if it is a windows machine, it uses smb right?
[04:39] <Rocha> jmjones, yes, you're right.
[04:39] <jmjones> Rocha: if it's a windows machine, you should be able to setup a windows share and access it as a samba printer, yes.
[04:40] <bulletproof> jmjones virtuald: same errors (shall I paste)
[04:40] <virtuald> use pastebin
[04:40] <bulletproof> virtuald: no idea what that is
[04:41] <virtuald> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl a site like that
[04:41] <jmjones> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:41] <luzbelito> i need to search a package with apt-get but i dont know how to do
[04:41] <adamh> luzbelito: apt-cache search [search terms] 
[04:41] <bulletproof> virtuald: oh yeah - I know what you mean - but I ain't got a browser now - lol
[04:42] <virtuald> ok
[04:42] <virtuald> use #flood then :)
[04:42] <Rocha> jmjones, she said she thinks it's a linux machine
[04:42] <luzbelito> adam: i dont get any result
[04:42] <Rocha> jmjones, but she doesn't know if it's using cups or smb
[04:43] <luzbelito> root@lenin:/ # apt-cache search amsn
[04:43] <luzbelito> root@lenin:/ # apt-get search amsn
[04:43] <luzbelito> E: Operacin invlida: search
[04:43] <virtuald> apt-cache search
[04:43] <virtuald> hmm
[04:43] <luzbelito> yeah
[04:43] <luzbelito> and amsn or 'amsn'
[04:43] <luzbelito> or [amsn] 
[04:44] <virtuald> open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor
[04:44] <adamh> luzbelito: amsn is only in "universe" -- you'll have to uncomment some lines from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <virtuald> and uncoment the universe line
[04:44] <virtuald> save and exit
[04:44] <virtuald> you need root priviliges
[04:44] <adamh> luzbelito: Then run "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install amsn"
[04:44] <luzbelito> yeah i has do it
[04:44] <luzbelito> i catch it
[04:44] <luzbelito> look
[04:44] <luzbelito> a lot of results
[04:44] <luzbelito> zsh-doc - zsh documentation - info/HTML format
[04:44] <luzbelito> avm-fritz-kernel-source - AVM Fritz! binary kernel module source
[04:44] <luzbelito> fglrx-control - Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators
[04:44] <luzbelito> fglrx-kernel-source - ATI binary kernel module source
[04:44] <luzbelito> linux-686 - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-k7 - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on AMD K7
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-k7-smp - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on AMD K7 SMP
[04:45] <adamh> luzbelito: Please don't copy/paste lots of lines on here. Paste to #flood instead
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-686 - Restricted Linux modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-686-smp - Restricted Linux modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-k7 - Restricted Linux modules on AMD K7.
[04:45] <luzbelito> linux-restricted-modules-k7-smp - Restricted Linux modules on AMD K7 SMP.
[04:45] <luzbelito> nvidia-glx-dev - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver development files
[04:45] <luzbelito> nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[04:45] <luzbelito> xorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[04:45] <luzbelito> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators (devel files)
[04:45] <luzbelito> now how can i install kernel-sources????
[04:45] <luzbelito> adam: ok, sorry
[04:45] <adamh> luzbelito: Don't bother installing kernel sources :)
[04:46] <adamh> luzbelito: But it'd be apt-get install linux-source-2.6.xx...
[04:46] <bulletproof> jmjones virtuald: http://pastebin.com/307818
[04:46] <khermans> I can't do apt-get update, since I am behind a firewall -- i need to make proxy work with apt-get
[04:46] <khermans> ?
[04:47] <adamh> khermans: There must be settings for that in Synaptic, no?
[04:47] <luzbelito> adam, but i try to install a driver and it says "error" because i need 'kernel-sources'
[04:47] <adamh> luzbelito: What driver?
[04:47] <khermans> adamh, I'm using command line
[04:47] <luzbelito> eagle-usb-driver
[04:47] <jmjones> bulletproof: that looks like fun
[04:47] <virtuald> bulletproof: remove backports from sources.list, run apt-get update, apt-get clean and then apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:47] <bionic> when making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?
[04:48] <adamh> luzbelito: It comes with ubuntu...
[04:48] <adamh> modprobe eagle-usb
[04:48] <bulletproof> virtuald: will give that a shot now
[04:48] <luzbelito> yeah, but i want to use last version
[04:48] <luzbelito> isnt better ?
[04:48] <jmjones> luzbelito: do you have a concrete reason to think it will be?
[04:48] <adamh> luzbelito: The Ubuntu mantra: "The version that ships with Ubuntu is always best" :)
[04:49] <adamh> Has anyone here installed ubuntu on a flash drive?
[04:49] <jmjones> adamh: hee hee - actually, the latest ati driver on ati's website is *almost* usable.
[04:49] <Invisible_Magi> not yet but i'd like too
[04:49] <jmjones> adamh: thought about it...never tried
[04:49] <luzbelito> i think is a little slowly the connection
[04:49] <adamh> jmjones: As long as ATI's drivers crash when I resume from suspend, I'm sticking with the free ones :)
[04:49] <jmjones> luzbelito: have you google to see if anyone else has this problem with this version of the driver?
[04:50] <luzbelito> jmjones: i will
[04:50] <jmjones> adamh: i can't get anything to come back from suspend - fglrx or the plain ati ones
[04:50] <jmjones> probably need to check it out with the new fglrx ones from ati.....
[04:50] <adamh> jmjones: The plain ones work fine for me :)
[04:50] <luzbelito> Velocidad de bajada en Kbps	158,00 Kbps
[04:50] <luzbelito> Velocidad de subida en Kbps	40,00 Kbps
[04:50] <luzbelito> sorry
[04:50] <luzbelito> dont paste
[04:50] <luzbelito> sorry me
[04:50] <jmjones> adamh: what vidio card you got
[04:50] <khermans> anyone know how to configure proxy for apt-get?
[04:51] <adamh> jmjones: Radeon Mobility 9000
[04:51] <luzbelito> look: for up: 40 kbps, download 158 (my connection is adsl 512/128)
[04:51] <adamh> jmjones: Have you played with /etc/default/acpi-support? :)
[04:51] <poningru> wait are there new fglrx from ati?
[04:51] <jmjones> adamh:  what driver are you using?
[04:51] <jmjones> poningru: yeah
[04:51] <greenlightsaber> what happens if I download kdm in ubuntu? is that ok?
[04:51] <adamh> jmjones: Whichever one Ubuntu auto-detects :)
[04:51] <mwe> what do I need to share my windows printer with my linux box, samba?
[04:51] <bulletproof> virtuald: same error - removed by backports (mirror) from the repository list
[04:51] <jmjones> they work better than the ones in hoary, but still no there yet.
[04:51] <adamh> jmjones: I've got ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem, SAVE_VBE_STATE=true, USE_DPMS=true, and that's it
[04:52] <jmjones> adamh: do glxinfo | more
[04:52] <virtuald> bulletproof: did you run both apt-get update and apt-get clean?
[04:52] <jmjones> adamh: did you hack that or is that how it came?
[04:52] <adamh> jmjones: I hacked it to enable ACPI_SLEEP_MODE=mem, it didn't come that way. Not sure about the rest
[04:52] <adamh> jmjones: But in general, for me, Hoary Just Worked :)
[04:53] <jmjones> adamh: i've hacked on a bunch of acpi stuff and can't get it working right.....
[04:53] <greenlightsaber> does downloading kdm break ubuntu gnome?
[04:53] <jmjones> that and vertical scroll are the last two things i can't get working right
[04:53] <adamh> jmjones: I didn't touch any of that. (My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 600m, btw)
[04:53] <jmjones> adamh: i've got the inspiron 9300
[04:54] <bulletproof> virtuald: yes m8
[04:54] <jmjones> adamh: i'll carry on hacking....
[04:54] <virtuald> bulletproof: then there must still be a backports line in sources.ilst
[04:54] <virtuald> list
[04:54] <khermans> if I want to specify startup environment variables, put them into bahrc or bash_profile?
[04:54] <Luakagon> hey I want to put ubuntu on my grandmother's computer, she has 64 mb ram and a pentium ii processor
[04:55] <aeolist> ...
[04:55] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work with nforce 2?
[04:55] <jmjones> Luakagon: does she know you are trying to make a geek out of her?
[04:55] <dabi> is there any way to take panel and applets from kde to gnome? i have kubuntu installed
[04:55] <samuelk> any one know why ut2004 dont work for linux any more... says i have invalid key but i havent....
[04:56] <tbite> hi. can anyone help me? im trying to get my netgear WG311T wireless network card working in ubuntu. i followed all the steps for updating madwifi on the first post of this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972 and everything seemed to work fine, but when i check the dmesg thing, its not saying ath_hal has been updated
[04:56] <adamh> dabi: You can use the applets which reside in the "notification area", but that's it.
[04:56] <samuelk> searched the internet many having the same problem
[04:56] <dabi> adamh: hmm but there must be some way to have kde panel on gnome...
[04:56] <mwe> is samba what I want to share my windows printer with my linux box?
[04:57] <will_cat> hi everyone
[04:57] <Poromies> samuelk: well if it says that "invalid key" or "key in use" then you have the wrong key or someone else is using your key to play or something
[04:57] <will_cat> what can i do to be a ubuntu developer?
[04:57] <bulletproof> virtuald: I just double checked the only uncommmented deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[04:57] <adamh> dabi: Oh, ew :). I don't know how KDE works, I can't say, but... what applet is so important that you'd run KDE's panel in GNOME for it?
[04:57] <bulletproof> virtuald: and the security one
[04:57] <Poromies> but its not a linux problem, its ut2k4 problem
[04:57] <virtuald> hmm
[04:57] <virtuald> ahh
[04:57] <terrex> will_cat: read about MOTU into the wiki
[04:58] <kotatsu> Anyone here understand the interaction between gnome-font-properties and its associated gconf keys, and fontconfig/xft? I have a couple questions before I file a bug...
[04:58] <will_cat> MOTU?
[04:58] <virtuald> bulletproof: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox firefox
[04:58] <will_cat> where's that?
[04:58] <samuelk> poromies dont think there is... :( installed it on suse 9.2
[04:58] <terrex> Masters of the universe
[04:58] <terrex> xd
[04:58] <virtuald> bulletproof: and firefox-gnome-support
[04:59] <luzbelito> sorry, but i want to use dvd rw+- tools. i try to do apt-get install dvd... it says is installed but i can't execute. help please
[04:59] <dabi> adamh: well actually there are many of them, but im trying to do it only to learn more... i already tried kdinit with klauncher but wont work
[04:59] <adamh> luzbelito: Can't execute what? What are you trying to do?
[04:59] <luzbelito> adam: i want a program for burn dvd.
[05:00] <adamh> dabi: Metacity (GNOME window manager) complies to some FreeDesktop standards, I don't know if KDE's panel uses them
[05:00] <adamh> luzbelito: Just pop in a blank CD and a window comes up. Drag files onto it and go File -> Burn
[05:00] <bulletproof> virtuald: k - what next? install firefox?
[05:00] <luzbelito> but if it is a copyrighted dvd ? i mean, a movie
[05:00] <Luakagon> jmjones:no
[05:00] <luzbelito> i need to compress it
[05:00] <virtuald> bulletproof: yes :)
[05:01] <luzbelito> something like nero in windows i need
[05:01] <adamh> luzbelito: Oh, you want to *rip* a DVD? I don't know all the tools, but start off by installing libdvdcss -- search the Ubuntu forums for "dvd" to find how
[05:01] <bulletproof> virtuald: seems to be installing 8mb so will take a couple of minutes
[05:01] <Luakagon> I dont want her getting a virus and I want her computer to be faster
[05:01] <luzbelito> adam: thanks
[05:02] <dbernar1> hey! You can totally change which partition you mount to /home, right? and you would just change /etc/fstab really...
[05:02] <adamh> dbernar1: correct
[05:02] <dbernar1> ya, I thought so, thanks.
[05:02] <dabi> adamh: heh well i got kwin (KDE window manager) to gnome...
[05:03] <adamh> dabi: heh, what part of your system is actually GNOME then, at this point? The session manager?
[05:03] <samuelk> how do install wine with apt-get?
[05:03] <moea> im really confused here, my sources.list has one line in it, that i put myself, and its "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe"
[05:03] <adamh> samuelk: apt-get install wine
[05:03] <moea> but apt-get update fails totally
[05:04] <adamh> samuelk: You may have to enable the "universe" repository, check /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:04] <bulletproof> virtuald: intstalled okay - but won't load... I get t a "starting mozilla firfox " but then it don't load :(
[05:04] <dabi> adamh: well actually im not sure anymore :) it a mix, but i dont want to use only kde because it loads lame things what i dont need and cant close them...
[05:04] <virtuald> bulletproof: 8[
[05:04] <virtuald> i don't know what to do about that
[05:05] <adamh> dabi: KDE and GNOME don't mix. You'll end up loading double the stuff you want.
[05:05] <samuelk> adamh how do i enable universe
[05:05] <adamh> samuelk: Just uncomment the line with universe in it
[05:05] <samuelk> k
[05:06] <bulletproof> virtuald: maybe I could totally remove it again and install the bin manually - its such a pain in the arse
[05:06] <virtuald> heh :P
[05:06] <bulletproof> virtuald: mozilla does the same thing
[05:06] <virtuald> mkay
[05:12] <jasoncohen> how do you open up UDP ports in firestarter? i can't seem to get my openvpn connection working (as a client) behind the firewall even if i i open up the port openvpn uses
[05:12] <samuelk> how do i move a file to a other dir in console
[05:12] <jasoncohen> i opened the UDP port the client listens on
[05:12] <jasoncohen> but i think it's opening the TCP port since i see no option for UDP
[05:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[05:14] <Seveas> hi
[05:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> i get ubuntu, hoary
[05:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> live
[05:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> can i install ubuntu from it, in my hd?
[05:15] <goldfish> nope.
[05:15] <goldfish> you need the install cd.
[05:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu is a very good distro...nice job...
[05:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...
[05:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> right...
[05:16] <youngcoder> is there a way that i can assign password to folders?
[05:16] <Seveas> youngcoder, no
[05:16] <Seveas> but you can make them unreadable for others
[05:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> but, can i assign a local folders for my "installed" packages, as on next reboot, things will be ease...
[05:16] <youngcoder> are there any progrmas that will allow me to do this?
[05:16] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, nope
[05:16] <Seveas> youngcoder, no...
[05:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...
[05:17] <jacob> Anyone up for at gnome-commander question ? TIA
[05:17] <youngcoder> lol
[05:17] <nikkia> seveas, that's not quite true, there is a way you could do it...
[05:17] <Seveas> jacob, just ask :)
[05:17] <Seveas> nikkia, which question are you referring to.>?
[05:17] <nikkia> seveas, youngcoder's
[05:17] <youngcoder> nikkia im listening
[05:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas: once more...i can set the package cache dir?
[05:17] <jacob> thx... I have gnome-commander and xmms installed. however I can't get gnome-commander to open mp3's in xmms
[05:18] <jacob> I opens them in rythmbox
[05:18] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, you can put all .deb files on a usb stick
[05:18] <Seveas> and install from there all the time
[05:18] <samuelk> i must stay i like more and more ubuntu linux :D
[05:18] <Seveas> jacob, rightclick on an mp3 file and select properties
[05:18] <goldfish> Ubuntu is going to take over the world!
[05:18] <Seveas> jacob, in that screen, rightmost tab 'Open with'
[05:19] <goo> hi
[05:19] <nikkia> youngcoder, its a bit messy, and a pain to administer, but you could create an encrypted disk image on a loopback device, and set it a mount point on the directory you want 'password protected'
[05:19] <James686> ok someone help me, I did what I was supposed to do, I downloaded Ubuntu to my desktop, I got Alcohol120% and burned the files from the .iso file to CD, and it STILL doesnt go to the setup upon boot, WTF!!!!!!!!!!
[05:19] <goo> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! - what package am I missing here?
[05:19] <Seveas> nikkia, hmm, nice one
[05:19] <James686> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?!?!?!
[05:19] <Seveas> I actually use that
[05:19] <youngcoder> nikkia good idea
[05:19] <Seveas> James686, for one, you're shouting
[05:19] <Seveas> stop that
[05:19] <jacob> I've set that already...
[05:19] <Seveas> James686, and check your bios
[05:19] <James686> Im sry but this is really ticking me off...
[05:19] <samuelk> james686 did you burn it as a iso
[05:19] <godsmoke> James686: is your cd-rom selected as a boot priority above your hard drives?
[05:19] <jacob> In gnome they open fine in xmms
[05:19] <samuelk> and check in bios
[05:20] <jacob> just not in gnome-commander
[05:20] <samuelk> you could also us boot disks
[05:20] <James686> I did! its set to check the CD rom drive first!
[05:20] <goldfish> James686: is your bios set up to boot from the cd before the hard disk?
[05:20] <goldfish> k
[05:20] <Seveas> James686, and STUPID! you should not burn the files from the iso
[05:20] <Seveas> you should burn the iso
[05:20] <James686> oh yeah you know what thats what I did
[05:20] <Seveas> because otherwise of course the boot record gets lost...
[05:20] <nikkia> youngcoder: it'd be even better if there was a GUI front end for the encryption prompt, somewhat similar to the GUI ssh-askpass stuff, then you could set it to automount and get a nice password prompt when you try to access the directory
[05:20] <samuelk> seveas not kind to say stupid to someone :D
[05:20] <godsmoke> James686: is the cd spinning up, and lighting up during boot?
[05:21] <James686> I opened up Alcohol 120%, and I selected the ISO
[05:21] <Seveas> nikkia, there will be in breezy :)
[05:21] <James686> yes
[05:21] <ksmurf> 2 questions. 1> how do you setup a dynamic link to a directory (the drive is a vfat partition) and 2> when I hover my mouse over my music It doesn't let me listen to a sample.  How can I change that (70+gb of music that is badly organized)
[05:21] <godsmoke> well -- did you check the md5 hash of the iso?
[05:21] <Seveas> and I have a little shell/zenity script that does the password requesting :)
[05:21] <youngcoder> nikkia that would be something.. i agree..
[05:21] <James686> the...wha?
[05:21] <Seveas> ksmurf, 1> ln -s /path/to/directory
[05:22] <Seveas> 2> make sure sox is installed
[05:22] <nikkia> seveas, tbh, what i really want in breezy.... is to have xinetd instead of inetd be the default :)
[05:22] <godsmoke> md5 hash -- it's an alphanumeric string that 'represents' the entire file -- if any modifications were made (say, from your internet connection screwing up the download) it will tell you
[05:22] <Seveas> James686, then check your bios
[05:22] <Seveas> make sure it boots from cd before trying the HD
[05:22] <James686> my bios is fine
[05:22] <kotatsu> does the general ubuntu bugzilla cover Breezy bugs as well, or should I file a bug elsewhere?
[05:22] <James686> it boots from CD
[05:22] <James686> I even hear it act up
[05:23] <Seveas> James686, then why do you tell us it didn't...
[05:23] <youngcoder> James686, then u burned he boot disk incorrectly
[05:23] <James686> no it does, but it doesnt g2 the setup screen it just boots right to Windows after that
[05:23] <Seveas> James686, do you see the grub screen?
[05:23] <James686> no
[05:24] <Seveas> then it is just checking whether it can boot from cd, but is unable to
[05:24] <Seveas> so you burnt your CD wrong
[05:24] <James686> how...
[05:24] <Seveas> try nero
[05:24] <Seveas> and the 'burn image' option
[05:24] <youngcoder> and verify that the .iso u burned is a correct file
[05:24] <James686> I tried to download it it said my trial has expired...
[05:24] <nikkia> seveas, to be fair, on a few drives its impossible to burn a disk in a way that matches the md5
[05:25] <Seveas> nikkia, doesn't matter, grub doesn't check the MD5
[05:25] <youngcoder> he may have a corrupte .iso
[05:25] <Seveas> so i suspect alcohol burnt it wrong
[05:25] <nikkia> sorry, misread the md5 comment, thought you were talking about comparing the burnt md5 vs the one on the site
[05:25] <James686> I'll get it from LimeWire...this is the 4th CD I am gonna create for this...
[05:25] <golgor> anyone know why grub gives me an error if i have 2 discs plugged in?
[05:26] <godsmoke> don't get it from limewire
[05:26] <godsmoke> that's just not a good idea
[05:26] <youngcoder> lmao
[05:26] <ksmurf> Seveas sox is installed.....but still no
[05:26] <youngcoder> haha
[05:26] <jacob> Seveas: Didn't work... MP3's just open in rythmbox if executed from gnome-commander....
[05:26] <James686> nowhere else to get it...
[05:26] <godsmoke> there's nothing wrong with the official ubuntu download source
[05:26] <nikkia> knowing limewire, it probably isn't even a .iso, more likely porn masquerading as a .iso file :)
[05:26] <Seveas> jacob, maybe gnome-commander doesn't respect the nautilus settings
[05:26] <luzbelito> did you know good .torrent sources?
[05:27] <jacob> yup - think so too - any suggestions ?
[05:27] <golgor> grub gives me an errorcode and i cant boot up my computer if i go t2 disc plugged in, anyone know whats going on?
[05:27] <goldfish> luzbelito: www.torrentspy.com
[05:27] <Blue_Summer> lo all
[05:27] <Seveas> golgor, probably the order of disks is changed because of it...
[05:27] <goldfish> Blue_Summer: hello.
[05:27] <Seveas> and grub cannot handle that automagicaly
[05:27] <youngcoder> James686, avoid P2P for any software in the future.. that is the best advice you will get today
[05:27] <Seveas> luzbelito, wrong channel
[05:27] <James686> then I cant get it anywhere else
[05:27] <James686> so Im screwed
[05:27] <Seveas> goldfish, stop it
[05:28] <godsmoke> James686: stop with this nonsense
[05:28] <youngcoder> no
[05:28] <luzbelito> thanks goldfish
[05:28] <youngcoder> lol
[05:28] <godsmoke> James686: the official ubuntu sources are 100% fine
[05:28] <godsmoke> we didn't tell you to redownload it
[05:28] <godsmoke> we told you to check the md5
[05:28] <godsmoke> have you done that?
[05:28] <Blue_Summer> www.torrentsearch.us
[05:28] <James686> but how can I install Nero from the Ubuntu site?
[05:28] <geko_> guys anyone knows how to enable irda
[05:28] <geko_> on a laptop?
[05:28] <godsmoke> James686: you don't need nero
[05:28] <Seveas> Blue_Summer, we don't support copyright infringement in here
[05:28] <Seveas> stop it.
[05:29] <goldfish> Seveas: Sorry.
[05:29] <Seveas> ksmurf, then maybe your mount options should be changed
[05:29] <goldfish> luzbelito: ask in #0-day-1337-warez
[05:29] <James686> thats what I have been tallking about, to get Nero, and yes I do need Nero, if Alcohol120% burnt it wrong
[05:29] <godsmoke> no, you don't
[05:29] <godsmoke> alcohol burns fine
[05:29] <James686> ok, what can I get?
[05:29] <nikkia> james, ahead's demo of nero is sufficient for burning a one-off, if you really need to. anyway
[05:29] <youngcoder> James686, you are not listening
[05:29] <James686> well thats what I burnt the CD with...
[05:29] <Seveas> ksmurf, does it work for other partitions?
[05:29] <godsmoke> you don't """"need"""" anything
[05:29] <godsmoke> you need to check the md5 of the iso
[05:29] <godsmoke> for the 50th time
[05:30] <James686> and I have been wondering how the hell do I do that???
[05:30] <luzbelito> thanks goldfish
[05:30] <luzbelito> golfish: the channel is empty
[05:30] <Seveas> James686, get an md5sum checker from download.com
[05:30] <goldfish> lol
[05:30] <goldfish> luzbelito: haha sorry that was a joke, i thought you would know :)
[05:30] <goldfish> hmmmm.
[05:31] <James686> how do I know the MD5 code?
[05:31] <Seveas> James686, get an md5sum checker from download.com <-------
[05:31] <James686> I got it already
[05:32] <James686> now I need a md5 code...
[05:32] <Seveas> then read the instructions that come with it....
[05:32] <Seveas> md5 codes are on the ubuntu download site
[05:32] <Blue_Summer> Seveas, i never said that he should download from it i just said the link.
[05:32] <golgor> seveas, sorry my answer is late but you thinks its ok if i just change the bootorder?
[05:32] <Seveas> golgor, you might need to edit the grub menu
[05:32] <Blue_Summer> Seveas, who said you cant get legal programs from that website anyway?
[05:32] <Seveas> i did
[05:33] <nikkia> James686: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[05:33] <nikkia> there :)
[05:33] <Blue_Summer> Seveas,  well you can
[05:33] <Mez> o_O @ @Seveas
[05:33] <sam_> Where is this synaptic smart upgrade thing located?
[05:33] <Seveas> Blue_Summer, don't be a hypocrite please, you know as much as me that he was downloading illegal things...
[05:33] <James686> ok it says the codes do not match...
[05:34] <James686> now what?
[05:34] <Seveas> re-download.
[05:34] <golgor> Seveas, and how to do that then?
[05:34] <James686> do I change the code?
[05:34] <youngcoder> no
[05:34] <ksmurf> Seveas Sorry bout the notices and No it does not matter what partition I'm on
[05:34] <Seveas> James686, you have to re-download the iso
[05:34] <Blue_Summer> Seveas,  ok but im still right.. I gave him the link because he was lookin for a torrent website, i gave him a torrent website, what he does on that wbesite is upto him and not my responsibility.
[05:34] <James686> that was the second time I downloaded it...
[05:34] <luzbelito> alchemist are you there?
[05:34] <Seveas> ksmurf, hmm...
[05:34] <Seveas> goes beyond my knowledge then, sorry
[05:34] <youngcoder> James686, download the Ubuntu official iso from their site
[05:34] <monkster> Hi, I have a newbie question for anyone who is using ubuntu as a mail server...
[05:35] <Seveas> James686, and check the md5 sum BEFORE burning
[05:35] <James686> exactly what I did...twice...
[05:35] <nikkia> it might be an IE 'corrupting the download' issue
[05:35] <Seveas> golgor, boot into Ubuntu without the disk that causes the errors plugged in and edit the menu to reflect the change you are going to make
[05:35] <nikkia> james, try a different mirror, IE has issues with corrupting downloads occasionally if the mime-type is set to certain things
[05:36] <golgor> Seveas, yea i got that, but how to get into grub and edit?
[05:36] <nikkia> golgor: there are grub-floppy and grub-cd images on the net that can be used to repair a grub install
[05:36] <cmatheson> golgor, check out /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:36] <nikkia> or you could use the live-cd if you have one around
[05:36] <Seveas> golgor, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:38] <James686> wtf...the code is mismatched, I dont get it its exactly from the Ubuntu site!
[05:38] <Seveas> James686, are you sure you are checking against the correct MD5sum?
[05:39] <James686> probably not?
[05:39] <golgor> ok, how to edit it...
[05:39] <James686> it does have that code in the notepad
[05:39] <Seveas> :|
[05:39] <Seveas> notepad is not an md5sum checker...
[05:40] <James686> no I know I mean the Readme file
[05:40] <Seveas> golgor, depends on what the new disk will cause, you probably need to change a lot of drive numbers oslt
[05:40] <James686> which opens notepad and tells me the code and then I select the .iso to see if its valid
[05:40] <Seveas> James686, you lost me, wth are you doing..?
[05:41] <nikkia> seveas, it would really be better for golgor to repair the grub install with the drives connected, that way he can see the effects of the drive
[05:41] <James686> I went to download.com, got the md5 checker
[05:41] <nikkia> a grub-floppy or grub-cd image, OR a live-cd would work
[05:41] <Seveas> James686, which one..?
[05:42] <James686> thats just what its called...
[05:42] <golgor> you mean i should download the cd/floppy version and repair with the drives connected during boot?
[05:42] <inemo> Help!! installing ubuntu on a iBook and the installer has stopped on a totally blue screnn
[05:42] <nikkia> golgor, yes, IMO
[05:42] <inemo> what should i do?
[05:42] <golgor> ok, you idea sound easier than Seveas so i go for it :P
[05:43] <Seveas> golgor, boohoo :'(
[05:43] <Seveas> ;)
[05:43] <golgor> Seveas, hehe :)
[05:45] <Seveas> James686, and what's the output of the md5sum checker when it checks your iso?
[05:45] <poningru> inemo: what installation step were you one before that happend?
[05:45] <inemo> the one where it writes everything to the disk
[05:45] <James686> hold on its checking now
[05:45] <inemo> after the network one
[05:45] <James686> ummm...what do I compare it to?
[05:45] <poningru> you did install the ppc one right?
[05:46] <inemo> poningru: yup
[05:46] <James686> WinMd5Sum
[05:46] <Seveas> James686, what is the output..?
[05:46] <inemo> force rebooted it now, installing again
[05:46] <James686> what do you mean?
[05:46] <Seveas> argh...
[05:46] <James686> what is the Md5 Sum?
[05:46] <Seveas> James686, when you let the ms5sum checker check your iso it will say something like 811a1aec315dae0ceef5d8e626584874
[05:46] <Seveas> a long hex-string
[05:47] <James686> f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840
[05:47] <Seveas> f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840
[05:47] <Seveas> that is correct
[05:47] <Seveas> the i386 install cd
[05:47] <James686> then...why is it not working?
[05:47] <poningru> inemo: just start over then
[05:47] <poningru> thats all I can think of
[05:47] <Seveas> because you either burnt it wrong or your pc cannot boot from cd...
[05:47] <Seveas> burn it at low speed
[05:48] <gm78> hey all. any people here had the unfortunate experience of using autopackage?
[05:48] <inemo> Seveas: its a mac
[05:48] <Seveas> and make sure you burn the iso
[05:48] <inemo> Seveas: ignore me
[05:48] <gm78> actually, replace unfortunate with horrible
[05:48] <inemo> poningru: i am
[05:48] <Seveas> inemo, lol :)
[05:48] <poningru> so how many times has this happend?
[05:48] <inemo> poningru: me? once
[05:48] <nikkia> seveas, it could even be *shudder* a PC that doesn't recognise that CD boot method :/
[05:48] <James686> thats exactly what I did and the burn speed is 48x
[05:49] <lennart> how do I enable mp3 support in rhytmbox?
[05:49] <Seveas> James686, burn it at 4x
[05:49] <Seveas> lennart: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[05:49] <James686> no it does, this is a dell, and I recover the computer through system reboot
[05:49] <spartas> James686, when you put the cd in the drive, how many files are on the cd?
[05:49] <Seveas> James686, burn it at 4x <------------
[05:49] <lennart> Seveas, thanks
[05:50] <linuxboy> Anybody run an apt-proxy for an ubuntu network pc?
[05:50] <poningru> woah is that possible?
[05:51] <froh> why is  /etc/init.d/udev taking so long when i boot my vanilla 2.6.12 kernel?
[05:51] <linuxboy> poningru: were you talking to me?
[05:51] <poningru> yeah
[05:51] <poningru> anyone know where I can read up on that
[05:51] <James686> why would it miss those files?
[05:51] <Seveas> poningru, man apt-proxy
[05:51] <linuxboy> poningru: nafc... why can't you do it
[05:52] <poningru> is that like creating your own repository?
[05:52] <Seveas> froh, because you have no hotplug/grepmap bits in your kernel
[05:52] <linuxboy> nope
[05:52] <Seveas> froh, that's one of the reasons to stick to ubuntu kernels..
[05:52] <gm78> Nobodies used autopackage and can help me fix the mess it has left my system in? Well, too bad, piece of advice, avoid that god-awful thing
[05:52] <Seveas> lol gm78 :)
[05:52] <James686> on Alcohol120, should I enable Buffer Underrun technology?
[05:52] <froh> Seveas: thanks
[05:53] <dabi> hmm is there any program what kills an application by its name?
[05:53] <Seveas> James686, why aren't you listening?
[05:53] <Seveas> dabi, pkill
[05:53] <jmjones> dabi: killall?
[05:53] <Seveas> killall is rude :)
[05:53] <James686> Im gonna burn it again under 4x!
[05:53] <James686> I heard you
[05:53] <James686> now should I leave that enabled?
[05:53] <Seveas> of course
[05:53] <gm78> Seveas, honestly, a great idea, but what a POS. it reset all of my menus so all the entries i had in there are gone and the ones i deleted are back, it removed a bunch of icons, certain apps won't launch anymore
[05:54] <Seveas> withou buffer underrun you can easily create coasters
[05:54] <froh> poningru: http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/
[05:54] <poningru> thanks
[05:54] <James686> Write and Simulation, do I check both or just Write?
[05:54] <Seveas> gm78, ouch...
[05:54] <Scherei> hi !
[05:54] <poningru> write
[05:54] <froh> poningru: google is your friend
[05:54] <poningru> no simulation
[05:54] <James686> ok
[05:54] <Scherei> Can anyone tell me if Games work on ubuntu
[05:54] <poningru> I googled man apt-proxy
[05:54] <James686> write method?
[05:54] <gm78> Scherei, ull have to be a bit more specific than that
[05:55] <Scherei> games like EX Games Generals Zero Hour ?
[05:55] <Seveas> Scherei, yes, linux games work on ubuntu
[05:55] <Seveas> windows games might work with wine or cedega
[05:55] <Scherei> k
[05:55] <Seveas> but there are no guarantees
[05:55] <golgor> nikkia, query :P
[05:55] <Scherei> where can i get wine from...
[05:55] <gm78> Scherei, cedega can help u run windows games, but it isnt that great of a solution if u ask me. sort of hit and miss
[05:55] <James686> which write methoiod should I choose?
[05:55] <Seveas> schasi, multiverse
[05:55] <James686> method*
[05:55] <Seveas> James686, disk-at-once
[05:55] <poningru> Scherei: stick to win for win games
[05:56] <Scherei> k
[05:56] <othernoob> hi, if i do alt+ctrl+f2 how do i get back to the first login(with kde+the app running) ?
[05:56] <poningru> there are really awesome free games in linux
[05:56] <Seveas> othernoob, <alt><F7>
[05:56] <othernoob> poningru why should he?
[05:56] <gm78> othernoob, ctrl+alt+f7
[05:56] <Scherei> thankx seveas
[05:56] <James686> DAO/SAO?
[05:56] <Seveas> DAO
[05:56] <James686> it doesnt have that option
[05:56] <poningru> othernoob: because wine and cedega do not do a good enough job
[05:56] <poningru> atleast for me
[05:56] <khermans> I am getting GPG errors when I apt-get  update
[05:56] <othernoob> thanks Seveas and gm78
[05:56] <Seveas> then DAO/SAO
[05:56] <James686> RAW DAO?
[05:56] <khermans> for ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[05:56] <gm78> othernoob, no problem
[05:57] <Seveas> khermans, retry in an hour
[05:57] <othernoob> poningru: mmh, i can't complain about wine
[05:57] <khermans> Seveas, what is the issue?
[05:57] <poningru> well I can
[05:57] <James686> that one?
[05:57] <poningru> its crappy
[05:57] <Seveas> khermans, this sometimes happens during an update of the archives
[05:57] <poningru> its not developed enough
[05:57] <Seveas> certain files are updated already, others not
[05:57] <khermans> Seveas, yea it was weird, cuz was working fine just a little bit ago
[05:57] <Seveas> khermans, good chance that it again works fine already
[05:58] <khermans> Seveas, i tried it -- nope
[05:58] <Seveas> usually this lasts for a few minutes or less, sometimes up to an hour
[05:58] <James686> Rectify Sub Channel Data?
[05:58] <khermans> Seveas, what is the techncal reason?
[05:58] <khermans> James686, CD burning?
[05:58] <Seveas> khermans, works fine here btw...
[05:59] <James686> should I choose that option or no?
[05:59] <Seveas> James686, rest of the options are not that important
[05:59] <khermans> Seveas, tells me signature is invalid
[05:59] <poningru> please dont pm dude
[05:59] <khermans> James686, unless it is copy-protected, dont worry
[05:59] <Seveas> khermans, technical reason: a new packages file is created, but the accompanying signature not yet, so you get the old signature for a new packages file
[05:59] <Seveas> khermans, are you running hoary..?
[05:59] <khermans> Seveas, ahh...well could I be hitting a different mirror than you?
[06:00] <khermans> Seveas, yes
[06:00] <James686> ok Im burning it now, this is gonna take awhile...
[06:00] <Seveas> which mirror?
[06:00] <James686> it better work...lol
[06:00] <khermans> Seveas, i am not sure -- just hitting security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are having GPG errors
[06:00] <Seveas> s.a.c is fine here
[06:01] <Seveas> u.a.u.c is the same as a.u.c which again is fine here...
[06:01] <khermans> sac or suc?
[06:01] <Seveas> odd
[06:01] <Seveas> s.u.c :)
[06:01] <Scherei> where can i get win for win games ?
[06:01] <harold__> Hello everyone.
[06:01] <Scherei> is there any cool site wirh regards to ubantu ?
[06:01] <James686> dude if this doesnt work...
[06:01] <Seveas> Scherei, he meant: stick to windows for playing windows games
[06:01] <Seveas> Scherei, wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[06:01] <harold__> Anyone have experience with installing on an OldWorld PowerBook G3?
[06:01] <Scherei> ahhh !
[06:01] <Scherei> silly me
[06:01] <mcquaid> howdy
[06:01] <khermans> Seveas, could it be something else?
[06:01] <James686> all I had to do was to burn the .iso file that I downloaded to a CD right?
[06:02] <harold__> I'm installed; it's just not fully booting
[06:02] <Scherei> whats the best wayto run dual os on one HDD ?
[06:02] <Seveas> harold__, afaik there are some documented attempts (successes) on the wiki
[06:02] <mcquaid> i have a psx controller hooked up to my lpt port, where do i put this to be automatic? /etc/modules?
[06:02] <Seveas> Scherei, making partitions...
[06:02] <golgor> 3 partitions
[06:02] <khermans> mcquaid, LPT?
[06:02] <harold__> Seveas, thanks - I read that many times.  It helped me get this far (installed)
[06:02] <Scherei> k
[06:02] <golgor> if youre going to use windows and linux
[06:02] <Seveas> mcquaid, if you know the module to load, indeed /etc/modules...
[06:02] <mcquaid> khermans, printer port
[06:03] <poningru> Scherei: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[06:03] <poningru> use that
[06:03] <poningru> and in it
[06:03] <James686> I dont get why mine isnt working.........:-(
[06:03] <mcquaid> ok i wasn't sure cause i don't need to just load the module but pass parameters as well to get both controllers working
[06:03] <poningru> qtparted
[06:03] <harold__> Folks, how do you login as root after you've first installed Ubuntu?
[06:03] <khermans> mcquaid, yeah i didnt know PSX controller could hook there!
[06:03] <mcquaid> wasn't sure if /etc/modules accepting putting additional params as well
[06:03] <cmatheson> harold__, just use sudo
[06:03] <poningru> harold__: sudo
[06:03] <pmai_> i got parcel from netherlands
[06:03] <poningru> what he said
[06:03] <pmai_> is it ubuntu cds?
[06:03] <mcquaid> khermans, yep works like a charm even 2 of em ;)
[06:03] <mcquaid> screw pc pads ;)
[06:03] <Seveas> khermans, very odd, I just deleted all local lists and redownloaded them -- still ok
[06:04] <pmai_> i got parcel from netherlands, is it ubuntu cds?
[06:04] <harold__> I've typed "sudo"; shouldn't I be asked for a password?
[06:04] <Scherei> any know conflicts between XP and ubuntu
[06:04] <Seveas> khermans, try sudo rm  /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[06:04] <cmatheson> harold__, yeah, just use your normal user's passwd
[06:04] <poningru> schasi: not really
[06:04] <poningru> err
[06:04] <pmai_> hi
[06:04] <Seveas> Scherei, no...
[06:04] <inemo> once you've used ubuntu you won't want to go back to XP Scherei
[06:04] <poningru> Scherei: not really
[06:04] <Scherei> k
[06:04] <pmai_> anyone help me?
[06:04] <poningru> pmai_: ask your question
[06:04] <inemo> pmai_: ask away
[06:04] <Scherei> Thankx
[06:04] <harold__> That doesn't seem to be working; do you know how to edit the /etc/sudoers file?
[06:04] <Seveas> harold__, sudo remembers your password for about 5 minutes
[06:05] <Scherei> installing ubantu on my P3 now
[06:05] <James686> how long does it usually take for the Ubuntu diskts to arrive if you get them mailed?
[06:05] <Seveas> harold__, sudo visudo
[06:05] <pmai_> i got parcel from netherlands, is it ubuntu cds?
[06:05] <Seveas> James686, a few weeks
[06:05] <harold__> Seveas, thanks - I'll be back in awhile
[06:05] <Seveas> pmai_, probably :)
[06:05] <James686> damn...I'll be in college!!!!!!!
[06:05] <Scherei> how well does it run on AMD64 ?
[06:05] <James686> SHIT!
[06:05] <James686> lol
[06:05] <James686> scuse my language
[06:05] <jamey3> no worry; FUCK
[06:05] <youngcoder> James686,  watch your language please
[06:05] <James686> lmao
[06:05] <Seveas> pmai_, the hoary cd's are sent from the netherlands
[06:05] <James686> awesome
[06:05] <poningru> Scherei: pretty well
[06:06] <Seveas> jamey3, watch your language...
[06:06] <jasoncohen> i got openvpn working with firestarter. instructions for all vpn types are available here - http://www.fs-security.com/docs/vpn.php
[06:06] <James686> unlike the Opera cahtrooms...\
[06:06] <James686> chatrooms*
[06:06] <inemo> do you need net connection to install hoary on ppc?
[06:06] <pmai_> Seveas, it is 600g
[06:06] <Seveas> jasoncohen, nice, do you mind if I copy that to the ubuntu wiki..?
[06:06] <Seveas> pmai_, what is 600g ..?
[06:06] <inemo> 600GB probably Seveas
[06:07] <pmai_> Seveas grams
[06:07] <James686> Im gonna check msconfig to see if I did anything to screw up the BIOS settings or whatever
[06:07] <CT> Help me plz. I suddenly have no soud on my computer....cant play music or anything..how can this be fixed?
[06:07] <harold__> Seveas, can dying PRAM cause alot of issues with booting up?
[06:07] <ilba7r> i have nvu installed and now whenever i open a web page it opens with nvu. how can i change that so webpages are opened by firefox
[06:07] <poningru> CT: what did you do before the no sound?
[06:07] <pmai_> inemo i think it is bomb mail :{
[06:07] <Seveas> harold__, dying *RAM can cause all kinds of problems
[06:07] <poningru> ilba7r: right click on it
[06:07] <poningru> on an html file
[06:07] <CT> poningru: hmm...nothing..??
[06:08] <poningru> so you just started up your computer and it lost sound?
[06:08] <inemo> poningru: seems to have gotten past that blue screen this time :D
[06:08] <harold__> Seveas: I'm not certain my PRAM is dying, but I've had some evidence in OS 9 (date/time off)
[06:08] <CT> poningru: yup
[06:08] <Seveas> pmai_, does it have an 'express mail' label and a 'schiphol' sticker?
[06:08] <mcquaid> dang that didn't work
[06:08] <Seveas> or a 'schiphol' address
[06:08] <khermans> Seveas, clearing out the lists and redownloading seems to work! thanks!
[06:08] <nightswim> ubuntu ships from .nl?
[06:08] <khermans> Seveas, any idea as to why this happened?
[06:08] <ilba7r> poningru i did that but do i have to do that every time i open an html file
[06:08] <poningru> nice
[06:08] <Seveas> nightswim, for hoary: yes
[06:08] <Seveas> khermans, ENOIDEA
[06:08] <poningru> ilba7r: no
[06:08] <nightswim> oh lovely
[06:08] <poningru> go to properties
[06:09] <mcquaid> doh i see my error
[06:09] <nightswim> that's where I live
[06:09] <harold__> Seveas, are you a juggler?
[06:09] <poningru> and go to open with
[06:09] <poningru> now click on firefox
[06:09] <Seveas> harold__, no :)
[06:09] <mindstorm> took 8 weeks
[06:09] <ilba7r> poningru ok i did that
[06:09] <pmai_> Seveas yes express mail
[06:09] <poningru> now click close
[06:09] <ShamblyHermit> yep 8 weeks or more
[06:10] <poningru> and it should now open in firefox
[06:10] <Seveas> pmai_, and something with 'schiphol' on it..?
[06:10] <harold__> Seveas, have you used BootX on a PowerBook?
[06:10] <Seveas> pmai_, if not, what is the address on it?
[06:10] <ksmurf> I figures my problem with the sound. now I just need a soulution. anyone know how to scan my mp3 for bitrate info?
[06:10] <James686> dude if this doesnt work next time Im gonna fuckin flip out!
[06:10] <Seveas> harold__, I never used a PPC myself
[06:10] <harold__> Seveas: Thanks
[06:10] <ShamblyHermit> and I was just getting comfortable with my Bambloo install :(
[06:10] <ilba7r> poningru ok i did that and the default is still nvu i am asking how to change the default to firefox
[06:11] <pmai_> Seveas on parcel only wrote from Netherlands
[06:11] <James686> is Ubuntu TRULY an open source OS?
[06:11] <harold__> Seveas (or anyone): When booting from ()S 9, am I supposed to choose initrd.img in BootX?
[06:11] <ilba7r> poningru when i get mail through hotmail and use gaim to open the mail box it is automatically opened by nvu and i hate that
[06:11] <goldfish> James686: emm, linux is.
[06:11] <Seveas> pmai_, good chance that it are the Ubuntu cd's
[06:11] <Seveas> pmai_, how much did you order?
[06:12] <sam_> has anyone been able to upgrade acroread?
[06:12] <youngcoder> James686, i will ask again please watch your language!!!
[06:12] <sam_> it says that my libgcc1 version is too low or something
[06:12] <CT> I want to remove some applications on my compyter. But, when I select the add/remove programs from the menu, the list of programs wont show. It`s seems that hi`s trying to load the list, but I can wait forever, and nothing comes up. How can this be fixed? Is there another way for me to remove the applications?
[06:12] <pmai_> Seveas i ordered last year (about 4 to 10 CDs)
[06:12] <Seveas> sam_, if you use acroread from hoary-extras, you need libgcc from hoary-backports
[06:12] <poningru> ilba7r: I dont think you followed my directions
[06:13] <poningru> ilba7r: right click on an html file
[06:13] <James686> sry I thought cursing was allowed here I apologize
[06:13] <Seveas> pmai_, that's a correct weight and shipping method, if it is a white bubblewrap envelope it's the Ubuntu CD's
[06:13] <poningru> ilba7r: click on properties
[06:13] <poningru> and then click on the open with tab
[06:13] <poningru> now make sure that the little circle by firefox is highlighted
[06:14] <ilba7r> poningru got it i must have missed some of your typing thank you my friend
[06:14] <golgor> how to "find" a new harddrive, checked the wiki but its about repartition it and i already got stuff on the disk i want
[06:14] <kev0r> Anyone here know how to get Openoffice spreadsheat to hold the text within the lines?
[06:14] <Seveas> golgor, mount it..
[06:14] <kev0r> or give an Enter in a box
[06:14] <sam_> Seveas, how can i tell if my acroread is from hoary-extras? And how can i get libgcc from hoary-backports?
[06:15] <pmai_> Seveas Thanks, i will go to take it tomorrow (about 15km )
[06:15] <Seveas> sam_, apt-caceh policy acroread
[06:15] <Seveas> sam_, apt-cache policy acroread
[06:15] <harold__> Seveas: When I boot (or attempt to), my the video is displayed multiple times on the screen.  Any idea what's going on there?
[06:15] <poningru> Seveas: what is that gui thing for mounting disks?
[06:15] <ksmurf> I figures my problem with the sound. now I just need a soulution. anyone know how to I canscan my mp3 for bitrate info?
[06:16] <Seveas> poningru, ENOIDEA
[06:16] <Seveas> harold__, faulty framebuffer perhaps
[06:17] <sam_> 500 http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages
[06:17] <Lambda-> Hey guys, recently i ordered some ubuntu cds online and i am yet to recieve them :(  how long do they usaly take ?
[06:17] <Seveas> sam_, so you need to enable hoary-backports to get the good libgcc
[06:17] <Seveas> Lambda-, several weeks
[06:17] <Lambda-> hmm, its been about 3
[06:17] <harold__> Seveas: Also, it never completes the boot process, as it repeatedly scrolls the following: "Configuing the base system...info: Switching console charset mapping to ISO-8859-1"
[06:18] <djp> can you play gnu chess without the need for xboard?
[06:18] <Seveas> hardcampa-, sounds like a bad framebuffer to me
[06:18] <hardcampa-> ..
[06:18] <Seveas> harold__, find some mac gurus for details and fixes :)
[06:19] <doctor_salvia> hola
[06:19] <harold__> Seveas: Okay, thanks
[06:19] <harold__> Any Mac gurus here?
[06:19] <James686> ok, wish me luck, its done bein burned, Im gonna restart
[06:19] <gorth> Im having some trouble with my soundcard (intel8x0). Which component should I report this to in bugzilla?
[06:20] <inemo> James686: good luck, mines just finishing installing :)
[06:20] <harold__> Seveas: One more question: After typing sudo and then my password, I'm getting "login incorrect".  Perhaps it's not entered in /etc/sudoers?
[06:21] <Seveas> harold__, the user you creat when installing is in sudoers
[06:21] <Seveas> no others are by default
[06:21] <ksmurf>  Anyone know how to I can scan my mp3's for bitrate info? There is no info attached to them
[06:21] <adwait> hola ppl
[06:21] <ksmurf> heyya adwait
[06:21] <Seveas> ksmurf, mpg321 filename.mp3
[06:22] <adwait> mpg321: won't tht just show the info written on the file
[06:22] <harold__> Seveas: I'm able to login using me username/password, but it's not granting me sudo access.  Any ideas?
[06:22] <sam_> Can I have multiple versions of the libgcc package installed?
[06:22] <Seveas> harold__, did you do a server install..?
[06:22] <Seveas> sam_, no
[06:22] <doctor_salvia> mi nestisto mascelino jugo
[06:22] <harold__> Seveas: No, I don't *believe* so.  It was  automatic install.
[06:23] <sam_> So if I install it from a backport repository it might mess up dependencies for other packages?
[06:23] <Kyral> no
[06:23] <doctor_salvia> si si si
[06:23] <Seveas> sam_, i'm using that package, works fine.
[06:23] <harold__> Seveas: In other words, for new (unexperienced users)
[06:23] <Seveas> doctor_salvia, we speak english in here...
[06:23] <chrissturm> anyone else having a signal 11 with breezy xorg packages?
[06:23] <sam_> Seveas, but it could potentially cause trouble?
[06:23] <Seveas> chrissturm, breezy is unstable, especially X is broken
[06:24] <harold__> Seveas: In other words, I chose the automatic installation, though I manually partitioned.
[06:24] <Seveas> sam_, this package not :)
[06:24] <Seveas> harold__, hmm, ok then the user you created has to be in sudoers
[06:24] <Seveas> did you create a root account?
[06:24] <chrissturm> seveas: i know. i run it on several systems :)
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> evolution
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> es menu class init
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> (evolution:25873): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[06:24] <harold__> Seveas: No, i did not create a root account.  how do i do so?
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> get that when starting evolution
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> great
[06:24] <Shadowpillar> cant read my own email
[06:25] <golgor> seveas, how to mount then... i did try and i got "mount: /dev/sdb is already mounted..."
[06:25] <harold__> Seveas: You rule!
[06:25] <Seveas> harold__, boot into recovery mode and type the command passwd
[06:25] <harold__> Seveas: Again: You rule!
[06:25] <golgor> seveas truly are the hero here :)
[06:25] <chrissturm> Shadowpillar, did you try if it works after a fresh login?
[06:25] <harold__> Seveas: Now, how do I boot into recovery mode?
[06:25] <Seveas> golgor, paste the output of mount && sudo fdisk -l on the pastebin please
[06:26] <Seveas> harold__, hmm, on i386 grub shows a menu when booting, doesn't yaboot do that too?
[06:26] <Shadowpillar> chrissturm: any better advice?
[06:26] <golgor> i got the swedish version so its in swedish some of it
[06:26] <chrissturm> Shadowpillar, it seems that it cant connect to bonobo
[06:26] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, did you try what he said already..?
[06:27] <harold__> Seveas: I'm using BootX; it doesn't show a menu, but I drop into the console through a keyboard command.
[06:27] <Shadowpillar> no, because I have some stuff running that I dont want to restart
[06:27] <harold__> Seveas: Then I can login as a user, but not a root.
[06:27] <adwait> harold_: i believe u can do that from grub
[06:27] <Shadowpillar> *sigh* I'll try it
[06:27] <Seveas> harold__, if bootx can edit kernel command lines, add the word single to the kernel command line
[06:27] <lukus001> How do i install the codecs properly? i done what the guide at ubuntuguide.org said, but w32codec dont seam to be installed as real player and every other player isn't playing the video files
[06:27] <harold__> Adwait: Thank you, but I'm not using grub, as I'm using BootX
[06:28] <harold__> Seveas: It can.  I'll do that.
[06:28] <harold__> Seveas: Thank you.
[06:28] <sam_> Seveas, isn't it kind of an emergency solution to get packages from these backports repositories though?
[06:28] <Seveas> sam_, well you do it for acroread too :)
[06:28] <harold__> Seveas: My goodness, I can't even reboot (since it won't grant me root access).
[06:28] <adwait> harold_: well u said u can edit boot options..........so make the run level 1
[06:28] <Seveas> harold__, hmm.....
[06:29] <adwait> i think thts single user mode right?
[06:29] <harold__> Adwait: Thank you.  I'll try that, as soon as I can figure out what that is.  :)
[06:29] <harold__> Seveas: Well, I can force restart, but is there another way to reboot without root access?
[06:29] <sam_> Seveas, I did? You mean the hoary-extras repository is an emergency solution too?
[06:29] <adwait> harold_: at command prompt type sudo init 1
[06:29] <Seveas> sam_, hoar-extras is part of the backports project :)
[06:29] <Seveas> hoary-extras*
[06:30] <sam_> Oh, I see.
[06:30] <Seveas> adwait, he cannot use sudo
[06:30] <harold__> Adwait: That's my problem; it won't let me in as sudo.
[06:30] <lukus001> can somone help me with my codec issues please? i've sudo apt-get installed all of the video codecs, set up mozzila & real player but real player says it lacking the ability to play back the file
[06:30] <gm78> Seveas, lol, u know that menu thing with autopackage? i just spoke to the lead developer, it was my fault. i accidentally deleted ~/.local/  other than menu settings, what is all stored there do u know?
[06:30] <ksmurf> Seaves that worked great But I'm lloking for something that will scan all my mp3's and find the tags for them......
[06:30] <harold__> Adwait: How do I exit vim?
[06:30] <Hajuu> Hey uhm.. How can I resize my primary ubuntu partition?
[06:30] <Hajuu> Through linux
[06:30] <adwait> harold_: well in ur bootloader, if u can edit the boot command line, just add a "1" at the end of the line.....and ull boot in to sings user mode
[06:30] <golgor> Seveas, you got query with my commands.
[06:30] <Seveas> Hajuu, boot from a live cd and use gparted
[06:31] <adwait> harold: press Esq and then type :q to quite w/o saving
[06:31] <Seveas> golgor, i'll check, hang on
[06:31] <adwait> harold: press Esq and then type :wq for saving
[06:31] <adwait> and quitting
[06:31] <harold__> Adwait: Thank you; I'd forgotten that.
[06:31] <adwait> np
[06:31] <harold__> Seveas and Adwait: Thanks for you help; I haven't used Linux in about 6 months. (and was a new user anyway)
[06:32] <Seveas> golgor, how did you try to mount that drive..?
[06:32] <golgor> pasted my command last...
[06:32] <golgor> Seveas, sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/rarshare_4 -t ntfs
[06:32] <Seveas> golgor, he rofl, missed that :)
[06:32] <nikkia> ksmurf: i use kid3, but its a KDE app
[06:32] <golgor> :)
[06:32] <Seveas> but that's not gonna work :)
[06:32] <Seveas> it's sdb5, not sdb
[06:33] <gm78> Does anyone know what is all stored in $HOME/.local ?
[06:33] <Seveas> gm78, a lot
[06:33] <Seveas> gm78, a lot of configuration files like menu entries
[06:33] <Seveas> (hit enter too early)
[06:34] <Shadowpillar> nope
[06:34] <golgor> Seveas, looks ok or whats the problem?
[06:34] <Shadowpillar> evolution is still broken
[06:34] <Shadowpillar> GREAT
[06:34] <Shadowpillar> JUST GREAT
[06:35] <Shadowpillar> es menu class init
[06:35] <Shadowpillar> (evolution:26917): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[06:35] <harold__> Seveas: I hope you're getting paid
[06:35] <Seveas> golgor, sdb5 is the partition you can mount, sdb not
[06:35] <Seveas> harold__, i'm not (not for this support at least)
[06:35] <harold__> Seveas: Good news - typing "single" into BootX seems to have worked!
[06:35] <Shadowpillar> can anyone help me?
[06:35] <golgor> Seveas, ok ill try that
[06:35] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, did you remove bonobo from your system?
[06:36] <Seveas> harold__, good to hear that
[06:36] <harold__> Seveas: So I'm finally root!
[06:36] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: no
[06:36] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: why should I?
[06:36] <harold__> Seveas: So now I've got to remember what I need to do.
[06:36] <harold__> Seveas: Perhaps I should apt-get update or upgrade?
[06:36] <Seveas> harold__, if you created a root account you can now simply use su and add yourself to the sudoers
[06:37] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: why do I have to delete bonobo?
[06:37] <harold__> Seveas: Yes, I'll do that first.
[06:37] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, somehow bonobo has stopped working, so i though maybe you deleted it
[06:37] <Seveas> you shouldn't delete it ;)
[06:37] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, run throuhg /var/log/messages and check for bonobo errors
[06:37] <harold__> Seveas: I'll be reading the visudo man for awhile.  Thanks for everything.
[06:37] <golgor> ok seveas, one last questiong than im a happy linux newbie, how to get access to it
[06:38] <Shadowpillar> Jul  4 18:44:41 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x0 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '
[06:38] <Shadowpillar> Jul  4 18:46:46 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x2 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '
[06:38] <golgor> Seveas, i can access it as root in terminal but not in gnome with my other user
[06:39] <harold__> Adwait: Just to report, I've been able to login as root by adding the term "single" to my bootloader (BootX).
[06:40] <Seveas> golgor, you need some mount options
[06:40] <Seveas> golgor: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[06:40] <Seveas> ...and usable
[06:41] <adwait> harold_: ok good......well then add the username tht u normally use to the sudoers list..thn ull be able to use sudo
[06:41] <harold__> Adwait: Thanks, I'm working on that.
[06:41] <adwait> harold_: k...no
[06:41] <adwait> *np
[06:42] <harold__> Adwait: How do I exit a man page?
[06:42] <graungaard> dooh
[06:42] <harold__> Adwait: nevermind
[06:42] <Seveas> [Esc]  or [q] 
[06:43] <Shadowpillar> can anyone help me?
[06:43] <golgor> Seveas, how to run it, from terminal? what command? :$
[06:43] <yarlah> hi
[06:43] <yarlah> i need help
[06:44] <golgor> shoot
[06:44] <yarlah> how do i uninstall programs
[06:44] <harold__> Seveas or Adwait: What needs to be added to the /etc/sudoers file?  Currently it displays my username (as added by the Ubuntu installer) and root, but no sign of sudo.  Do I need to literally add "sudo" as a user?
[06:44] <sam_> Seveas, i got into trouble when adding "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to my sources.list
[06:44] <hdp> yarlah, synaptic
[06:45] <golgor> in synaptic packet manager
[06:45] <hodgman> hello, I can't remember the name of the program in linux that is basicly the replacement for winamp ?
[06:45] <Seveas> harold__, does it say   your_name (ALL)=ALL
[06:45] <Seveas> or something like that?
[06:45] <harold__> Seveas: Exactly.
[06:45] <sektor> xmms or something hodgman?
[06:45] <Seveas> harold__, odd, then sudo should work for you...
[06:45] <djp> hodgman: xmms?
[06:45] <hodgman> sektor: yeah thats it
[06:45] <harold__> Seveas: Yes, I guess.
[06:45] <adwait> harold_: wht error message does sudo give?
[06:45] <linuxworld> hodgman: beep ?
[06:45] <hodgman> had a brain fart :) thanks
[06:45] <sektor> but i believe xmms doesn't support mp3 any more
[06:46] <golgor> Seveas, how to run that winmac_fstab?
[06:46] <Seveas> golgor, sudo bash winmac_fstab
[06:46] <Seveas> sektor: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[06:46] <hodgman> I remember there was a plugin or something to play mp3's for xmms
[06:46] <harold__> Adwait: I don't recall exactly...(trying to remember).
[06:46] <harold__> Adwait: ...hold on...
[06:46] <Seveas> hodgman, xmms plays mp3's by default
[06:46] <hodgman> ok
[06:47] <lukus001> should i install amd64-lib if im running ubuntu 32 bit, with my amd althon 64?
[06:47] <harold__> This is messed...
[06:47] <yarlah> thx guys
[06:47] <josef> greetings from a swedish user, new at irc
[06:47] <sektor> the command for opening an ssh session is just ssh right?
[06:48] <harold__> Adwait: Oh well, sudo *should* be working, but it's not.  Perhaps I can fix it by fixing my installation?
[06:48] <Shuddertrix> sektor: ssh user@hostname
[06:48] <jmjones> sektor: or ssh -l <username> hostname
[06:48] <adwait> harold_: well whts the error message it gives would be a clue to why it isnt working
[06:48] <highvoltage> sektor: ssh followed by hostname or ip address, for client side.
[06:48] <sektor> tnx
[06:48] <adwait> anyway..hey.....ppl are waiting for me for dinner....so ill brb
[06:48] <jmjones> sektor: or ssh -l <username> -L<localport>:<remoteserver>:<remoteport> hostname
[06:48] <lukus001> Should i AMD64-lib if im running ubuntu 32 bit on amd athlon64 anyone?
[06:49] <highvoltage> (assuming you want to log on as the same user, otherwise it is ssh username@hostname(
[06:49] <lukus001> install*
[06:49] <Seveas> harold__, if it won't work, ping me in an hour :)
[06:49] <harold__> Seveas: Thank you, I will
[06:49] <poningru> lukus001: yeah I would say so
[06:49] <poningru> but may experience problems if the rest of your hardware is not common
[06:50] <ksmurf> nikkia I tried it but no go..... It is like my mp3 all lost there tags
[06:50] <harold__> Adwait: I'll give you that..
[06:50] <graungaard> how do i get a list of all channels on freenode with X-Chat?
[06:50] <ksmurf> *thier
[06:50] <ksmurf> *their
[06:50] <lukus001> poningru, so it wont mess my system up or convert my system to 64bit? it'll just give better performance from my 64bit amd?
[06:50] <harold__> Adwait: I'm rebooting to get back there.
[06:50] <poningru> it will convert your system to 64bit
[06:51] <nikkia> ksmurf, congrats then, you get to spend hours putting the info back in :/
[06:51] <lukus001> oh, i dont want that then =)
[06:51] <poningru> why not?
[06:51] <linuxworld> graungaard: type /list
[06:51] <Will__> Anybody got a decent 'How to act in a #linux' link?
[06:51] <poningru> graungaard: right click on the window
[06:51] <highvoltage> 
[06:51] <graungaard> linuxworld: thx
[06:51] <poningru> and window->channel list
[06:51] <Shadowpillar> -(tsunami@monolith:1)-(63 files:52M@~)-(0 jobs)-(09:55)-
[06:51] <Shadowpillar> -(~:$)-> evolution
[06:51] <Shadowpillar> es menu class init
[06:51] <Shadowpillar> (evolution:27390): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[06:51] <lukus001> poningru, i just downgraded from 64 bit thats why lol
[06:51] <highvoltage> Will__: the #linux's i've seen are usually not recommended
[06:52] <poningru> lukus001: which distro?
[06:52] <Will__> highvoltage: ?
[06:52] <harold__> Adwait: still booting...
[06:52] <lukus001> poningru, ubuntu horay 5 or somin??
[06:53] <poningru> lukus001: what other distro are we discussing here?
[06:53] <harold__> adwait: I'm in...
[06:53] <harold__> adwait: So, when I type "sudo" at the prompt...
[06:54] <harold__> adwait: ...I'm prompted for the Password...
[06:54] <harold__> adwait: Which I carefully type...
[06:54] <lukus001> poningru im just on about the 32bit ver and 64 bit version of hoary... i downgraded from 64 bit the otherday - i just looked in synaptic for amd to see if there would be any file for a performance boost
[06:54] <harold__> adwait: ...and it returns, "Login incorrect."
[06:54] <harold__> adwait: Yet I can login using my username with the same password.
[06:55] <harold__> adwait: I wonder what gives?
[06:55] <James686> ok, I got the setup working
[06:55] <Mattias> hey harold, we have the same problem :D
[06:55] <Mattias> I think ;)
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> FUCK
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> can someone help me?
[06:55] <harold__> Mattias: What's going on with your login?
[06:55] <poningru> cant help you with that
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> evolution
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> es menu class init
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> evolution-shell-Message: Killing old version of evolution-data-server...
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> (evolution:27550): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[06:56] <zooko> Greetings, people of #ubuntu!  I have gotten sucked into breezy (c compiler stuff) and now I can't (re-) install mplayer from marillat.  Any suggestions?
[06:56] <zooko> 
[06:56] <Mattias> well, I dont even know the root password :P didnt say anywhere and I coulnt type anyone in anywhere in the installation.
[06:56] <Shadowpillar> Mattias: no root pass by default
[06:56] <Shadowpillar> Mattias: sudo -s
[06:56] <Mattias> could explain much :D
[06:56] <Shadowpillar> Mattias: and your user pass
[06:56] <Shadowpillar> for a root shell
[06:57] <Mattias> thanks
[06:57] <Shadowpillar> root password disabled for security reasons
[06:57] <James686> I have a installation CD for my wireless card upstairs on the computer where Im currently installing Ubuntu, so will it be easy to get it working?
[06:57] <josef> zooko , breezy shouldnt be used with marillat or other repos
[06:57] <Mattias> I do have another problem though, when I try to start X I get a return that say that I dont have any devices configured/present so X dies. Checked xorg.conf and my graphiccard is there (Ati Radeon X800 XL).
[06:58] <harold__> Shadowpillar: How do you enable it, then?
[06:58] <josef> james686 ,  the install cds with cards , doesnt have drivers for our lovely ubuntu
[06:58] <Shadowpillar> harold__: you really shouldnt, since sudo and your own pass will suffice and give you root priveledges
[06:58] <Gerrath> James686, What wireless card do you have?
[06:59] <Shadowpillar> harold__: or when you need root access on an app, just put in your pass
[06:59] <poningru> James686: installation cd is most likely for a win installation
[06:59] <Shadowpillar> harold__: usually just do sudo -s
[06:59] <harold__> Shadowpillar: Thanks - and your "sudo -s" trick has gained me root access; thanks!
[06:59] <James686> LinksysWireless-G
[06:59] <Shadowpillar> harold__: if you need a root shell
[06:59] <James686> so I wont be able to have the internet now???
[07:00] <Gerrath> James686, do you have the model number?
[07:00] <James686> must be on the card so I could say yes
[07:00] <josef> james , if you cant get wireless work, use cable and after complete install , you are more lucky to get it working
[07:00] <harold__> BRB
[07:00] <nikkia> gerrath, won't help much... linksys are one of those brands that change chips almost weekly
[07:00] <nikkia> gerrath, some are supported, some aren't, etc
[07:00] <James686> or the model number for the wireless router?
[07:01] <neospy> Can someone help me to get Splashy working?
[07:01] <josef> agree with nikkia
[07:01] <James686> I cant run cables through the ceiling in this house, thats why I have wireless!
[07:01] <Gerrath> nikkia, you can acually look on the pci bus in linux and get the info needed to find the correct driver,
[07:01] <James686> I dont like wireless but I dont have a choice
[07:01] <poningru> James686: they are talking about temp cabling
[07:01] <poningru> for the installation
[07:01] <nikkia> gerrath, yes, i know that, but 'the model number of the card' tells you nothing where linksys is concerned
[07:02] <nikkia> gerrath, they sell various wireless chips with the same card model number
[07:02] <poningru> or do you already have ubuntu installed with all the packages?
[07:02] <James686> like cables to get the installation files from this computer to the other?
[07:02] <Gerrath> nikkia, it can if you have the firmware rev to go with it which I believe they put on the box now, or at least they did with mine.
[07:02] <josef> like I said, some chips on wireless is a dream on linux *BSD, but the manufacturers change chips like undervear
[07:02] <James686> yeah Ubuntu is already installed
[07:02] <Gerrath> nikkia, but your right, in the end it is easier to check after the fact by looking at the pci bus ;)
[07:02] <James686> well, might be still installing...brb
[07:03] <golgor> anyone familiar with the drivers to nforce 2?
[07:03] <golgor> i cant get my sound to work properly
[07:03] <nikkia> and lspci might not tell you anything anyway, since most wireless cards are just a PCI<>PCMCIA bridge + PCMCIA wireless
[07:04] <nikkia> and PCMCIA cards don't show up in lspci
[07:04] <harold__> How do I access this IRC chat from the console/
[07:04] <harold__> ?
[07:04] <chrissturm> harold__, irssi
[07:04] <golgor> use irrsi
[07:04] <golgor> irssi
[07:04] <josef> golgor, nvidia has a binary files for their chipset at their homepage
[07:04] <harold__> Thank you
[07:04] <inemo> irssi.org harold__
[07:05] <golgor> josef, i know... i download the tar.gz as there arent any .deb but when i "make" it gives me an error
[07:05] <harold__> Can I have two consoles open, one for the chat and the other for whatever else?
[07:05] <neospy> Can someone help me to get splashy installed?
[07:05] <nikkia> golgor: use the .run
[07:05] <josef> ok, sorry cant help you further, sitting on SIS chipset
[07:06] <Scherei> how do i load my HP PSC 500 Printer in Ubuntu
[07:06] <golgor> nikkia, ?
[07:06] <nikkia> golgor, there should be a .run file available for the nforce drivers
[07:06] <nikkia> golgor: i've never had any problems getting those to run on debian and debian-like systems
[07:06] <golgor> after unpacked to a dir called nforce?
[07:07] <harold__> Anyone: Would apt-get upgrade or apt-get update fix an incomplete installation?
[07:07] <neospy> Scherei: go to system, administration, then printing
[07:07] <Scherei> k
[07:07] <nikkia> golgor:  no, i mean a .run file you can download from nvidia's site
[07:08] <nikkia> it's a shell script (basically a glorified modern shar file)
[07:08] <golgor> nikkia, where do you find those drivers, are they for nf2?
[07:08] <neospy> then click new printer
[07:08] <josef> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_500
[07:08] <nikkia> golgor: on nvidia's web site, by following the links for drivers
[07:08] <golgor> ah ok... i found another page with the linux drivers for nforce, ill try that one
[07:09] <golgor> nikkia, thanks
[07:09] <nikkia> golgor: see, for example, the first link on this page: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0301.html
[07:09] <Scherei> thankx, neospy...
[07:09] <neospy> Scherei:  after that its pretty straightforward
[07:09] <neospy> Scherei: np
[07:09] <nikkia> its a .run file, you run it with 'sh' as root, and it installs the drivers
[07:10] <Fulg> hey
[07:10] <Fulg> somebody can tell me where can i find some docs/howto`s about NUT (Network UPS Tools)
[07:10] <poningru> is that guy with the wireless installation still need help?
[07:10] <poningru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43690
[07:11] <poningru> James686: if you are still ther
[07:11] <gorth> Can you do something like lilo -R in grub?
[07:11] <James686> back so since my wireless router and card is for Windows PCs, I wont be able to have the internet on the one with Ubuntu?
[07:11] <Seveas> what does lol -R do?
[07:11] <nikkia> Seveas: iirc, sets the image to boot on the next reboot
[07:11] <golgor> nikkia, i get an error
[07:12] <nikkia> Seveas: very useful, as you can script a dual-boot
[07:12] <Gerrath> nikkia, after you use lspci to find the pci identifier then you use lspci -n to find the unique ID.
[07:12] <Seveas> nikkia, Ubuntu can do savedefault
[07:12] <Seveas> and you can specify default: saved
[07:12] <nikkia> gerrath, that isn't going to work if the card doesn't show up in lspci, which a pcmcia wireless card will not
[07:12] <Heimdall> what is the best tool for ubuntu, to download binaries on newsgroups ?
[07:12] <golgor> nikkia, the installation cant find any precompiled kernel interface
[07:12] <nikkia> all that will show up is the bridge controller
[07:12] <poningru> James686: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43690
[07:12] <neospy> Does anyone know how to install splashy
[07:12] <Fulg> somebody can tell me where can i find some docs/howto`s about NUT (Network UPS Tools)
[07:12] <Gerrath> nikkia, good point.
[07:13] <nikkia> Seveas: savedefault isn't quite the same tho
[07:13] <osh> What's the command to find out what package contains the wx-config file? "apt-cache search" and then what? search only appears to find packages...
[07:13] <josef> james686 look at poningru s link
[07:13] <Seveas> hmm, ok
[07:13] <Seveas> apt-file search wx-config
[07:13] <nikkia> Seveas: savedefault will change it, until you change it again
[07:14] <nikkia> Seveas: lilo -R affects *1* boot, the next one
[07:14] <Seveas> ah ok
[07:14] <osh> Seveas: Ahh, apt-file. Didn't know of that one. Thanks.
[07:14] <Seveas> hmm, ENOSUCHTHING then
[07:14] <nikkia> Seveas: its a nice feature that grub is lacking :/
[07:14] <comforteagle> what is the berkeleydb apt-get package called?
[07:14] <nikkia> Seveas: maybe grub2 will feature something like it, who knows
[07:14] <golgor> nikkia, are you familiar with the error: "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel"
[07:14] <Heimdall> don't tell me 'pan' ....
[07:14] <Gerrath> nikkia, so your pretty well out of luck with the laptop (PCMCIA)?
[07:14] <nikkia> golgor, yes, it means you need the kernel headers to build the modules
[07:14] <Seveas> nikkia, grub2 will offer lots of things
[07:15] <Seveas> but it should have been heer long time ago...
[07:15] <golgor> nikkia, and how to do that?
[07:15] <Seveas> Heimdall, pan
[07:15] <nikkia> golgor, you'll need to download the .debs for the linux-headers packages manually, put them on a CD and carry them to the PC that way, i suspect (since i'm guessing the PC in question isn't online as it has no ethernet drivers without the nforce drivers)
[07:15] <Heimdall> Seveas, lol don't tell me pan :)
[07:16] <Gerrath> nikkia, I was lucky with my laptop wireless since it had the firmware rev and hardware rev right on the network card..
[07:16] <golgor> nikkia, im online with this computer (ubuntu) using another nw card
[07:16] <Heimdall> Seveas, I've tried it, and found it not very good...
[07:16] <nikkia> golgor, ok, then easy, just install the linux-headers package via your favourite package manager :)
[07:16] <Heimdall> Seveas, thunderbind is worst for binaries...
[07:17] <jasoncohen> nikkia, i have an nforce2 motherboard - asus a7n8x-x and my ethernet card was setup automatically. are you sure the kernel doesn't already have the driver needed?
[07:17] <Seveas> Heimdall, pan is not good at binaries indeed
[07:17] <Heimdall> Seveas, which one is good so ? :-/
[07:17] <Seveas> dunno, I only read text-only groups
[07:17] <Scherei> neospy: I downloaded the nvidia Driver for my FX 5200. Now What do I do, How do i run it ?
[07:17] <nikkia> jasoncohen: never has been on any of the dozen or so nforce boards i've setup
[07:18] <Heimdall> Seveas, ok okay... :-) but you know newsgroups can be a very good way for fast downloading
[07:18] <nikkia> jasoncohen: however, asus have a habit....
[07:18] <Seveas> Heimdall, i know, but we do not support such things in here ;)
[07:18] <nikkia> jasoncohen: they love to take a chipset that has onboard LAN, disable it, and stick another brand LAN controller on the board
[07:18] <Scherei> I downloaded the nvidia Driver for my FX 5200. Now What do I do, How do i run it ?
[07:18] <nikkia> jasoncohen: my asus i845, for example, has a disabled E1000, and an active broadcom ethernet :)
[07:18] <mcquaid> i was looking at python ide's. does anyone know why there is eric ver 3.6 and eric3 ver 3.4?
[07:19] <Heimdall> Seveas, of course, downloading linux free softwares etc... :)
[07:19] <mcquaid> is eric3 a rewrite or something?
[07:19] <Gerrath> schasi, you need to shut down the Xserver before installing the nvidia video driver..
[07:19] <nikkia> actually, it might be an E100, i forget, either way, it has intel networking in the chipset, but disabled and replaced with the broadcom
[07:20] <jasoncohen> nikkia, that's strange. aren't most ethernet cards detected and setup automatically with kernel 2.6? i didn't have an issue on a asus a7v8x-x, a7n8x-x or on my dell inspiron 8200 which has a 3com card
[07:20] <nikkia> jasoncohen: afaik, there is only binary drivers for the nforce
[07:21] <Gerrath> ctrl-alt-F2 will bring up a second terminal.. then you can do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  assuming your running the gdm display manager.
[07:21] <James686> hmmm this is gonna sound stupid but I accidently selected the wrong type of resolution during setup...
[07:21] <James686> how do I fix it?
[07:21] <nikkia> jasoncohen: as i said, there is a fair chance that asus have put 'a third party' ethernet chip on your A7N8
[07:21] <Seveas> James686: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:21] <Gerrath> schasi, this will kill your xserver so make sure your exited out of all apps before doing this.
[07:21] <nikkia> especially since its a -X, which usually indicates 'asus have fiddled with this'
[07:21] <jasoncohen> nikkia, ok
[07:22] <nikkia> jasoncohen: a -X asus part number, usually signifies that it has a 3rd party ethernet, sound, and/or firewire
[07:22] <Gerrath> schasi, then type sh "the name of the nvidia install program" and follow the instructions.
[07:22] <jasoncohen> nikkia, how do i check what driver it's using?
[07:22] <golgor> nikkia, do i need to reboot or something after installation?
[07:22] <nikkia> jasoncohen: in the case of my asus i845 '-X', all 3 are 3rd party, plus they slapped a SATA controller on for good measure
[07:22] <golgor> i still dont get any soun
[07:22] <golgor> d
[07:23] <nikkia> jasoncohen: lspci
[07:23] <James686> How do I type in that command? I mean where?
[07:23] <Frafra> hi all
[07:23] <Frafra> x works on breezy?
[07:23] <jasoncohen> nikkia, 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
[07:23] <chrissturm> Frafra, sometimes
[07:24] <Frafra> chrissturm: i'm on breezy, but i'm using hoary's x
[07:24] <Frafra> if I upgrade x, it will works?
[07:24] <nikkia> jasoncohen: then i'm puzzled as to how you got drivers installed :)
[07:24] <inemo> GaH!
[07:24] <chrissturm> Frafra, dunno, for me it works one one system and on the other it gives a signal 11
[07:25] <jasoncohen> nikkia, how do i check what driver is being used. i'm not sure what module in lsmod corresponds to the nforce ethernet
[07:25] <James686> well?
[07:25] <nikkia> ahh, there is a reverse engineered nforce driver, that doesn't work with all nforce versions :)
[07:25] <Frafra> are there a guide that i can read if x will doesn't work?
[07:25] <nikkia> jasoncohen: it'll be 'forcedeth' probably
[07:25] <jasoncohen> forcedeth              13440  0
[07:25] <nikkia> jasoncohen: might be worth checking to see if the binary drivers are better or worse
[07:26] <James686> hoiw do I change the resolution when Im not logged in?
[07:26] <Spec> vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:26] <Gerrath> schasi, actually you could just follow the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver  I forgot about that site ;)
[07:26] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crap
[07:26] <Seveas> schasi,Gerrath: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <khermans> Anyone know how to get my RADEON working with Xorg?
[07:27] <khermans> its not on Ubuntuguide.rog
[07:27] <jasoncohen> nikkia, well, i haven't had a problem so far- no reason to try to fix what's not broken. btw, i thought that kernel 2.6 supported most ethernet cards automatically. i guess i should check before buying a new motherboard
[07:27] <cmatheson> is there a way to make it so that postfix re-writes my user name on mail going out?  i want it to look like mail is coming from cameron.matheson@foobar instead of cmatheson@foobar
[07:27] <nikkia> jasoncohen: no, only what has a driver available, which is a sizable chunk of whats out there, but by no means 100%
[07:28] <Gerrath> Seveas, I personally never have used the guide but if it is crap why does abuntu link to it?
[07:28] <Seveas> cmatheson, your mail program should be able to
[07:28] <khermans> cmatheson, you can do it muttrc MUA
[07:28] <Seveas> Gerrath, ubuntu doesn't
[07:28] <James686> seriously, how do I change it???
[07:28] <James686> Im stuck at the login screen
[07:28] <cmatheson> khermans, i've changed my 'from' variable to 'cameron.matheson@foobar', but it doesn't seem to be respecting it...
[07:28] <Gerrath> Seveas, I mean Ubuntu..typo
[07:28] <jasoncohen> nikkia, i guess i've been lucky because everything has just worked for me on ubuntu- even my webcam
[07:29] <jasoncohen> nikkia, in debian i had to compile the pwc drivers myself
[07:29] <Gerrath> Seveas, it does: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/link
[07:29] <khermans> cmatheson, google muttrc
[07:29] <Seveas> hmm
[07:29] <James686> ????
[07:29] <EiGHTBALLx> how do installe extra WMs?  (EG mac OSX imitation?)
[07:29] <nikkia> jasoncohen: that is a lot of luck :)
[07:29] <cmatheson> Seveas, by mail program do you mean postfix, or mutt?
[07:29] <James686> PLZ ANSWER ME
[07:29] <Seveas> EiGHTBALLx, KDE can do a pretty good MacOSX imitation
[07:29] <Seveas> cmatheson, mutt
[07:29] <cmatheson> khermans, ok. would it be different than the 'from' variable though?
[07:29] <EiGHTBALLx> cool
[07:29] <jasoncohen> nikkia, and installing the nvidia drivers was trivial with linux-restricted-modules already installed
[07:29] <Seveas> James686: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:29] <cmatheson> Seveas, ok, thanks
[07:29] <EiGHTBALLx> so i should apt-get kubuntu
[07:29] <khermans> cmatheson, MUA = mail user agent -- MTA = mail transfer agent -- postfix is MTA, mutt is MUA
[07:30] <cmatheson> khermans, ok
[07:30] <khermans> cmatheson, i think you have to enable one more setting
[07:30] <cmatheson> khermans, oh ok, back to the manpage
[07:31] <khermans> cmatheson, google is better
[07:31] <EiGHTBALLx> if i install kubuntu , will i still be able to access gnome?
[07:31] <cmatheson> khermans, oh ok
[07:31] <jasoncohen> nikkia, i take it you haven't had the same luck
[07:32] <jasoncohen> nikkia, is the problem with very new or old hardware?
[07:32] <khermans> cmatheson, "set envelope_from"
[07:32] <cmatheson> khermans, ah, ok thanks a lot
[07:32] <khermans> Anyone know how to get ATI Radeon working in Xorg?
[07:32] <nikkia> jasoncohen: mostly 'very new'
[07:32] <khermans> cmatheson, google "muttrc" second hit -- help very much
[07:32] <kent> EiGHTBALLx you can install gnome from kubuntu,  as you can install kde from ubuntu. :)
[07:32] <Gerrath> Seveas, did you check out the link I sent you, It does look like Ubuntu links to the guide and I just browsed through the guide and also have concluded it is not very good.
[07:33] <Mattias> khermans, check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <EiGHTBALLx> i understand that but can i have both?
[07:33] <Seveas> EiGHTBALLx, yes
[07:33] <Seveas> they are essentialy one and the same distro
[07:33] <EiGHTBALLx> great!
[07:33] <Seveas> Gerrath, i'm going to talk to people about it :)
[07:34] <Seveas> that link will probably disappear
[07:34] <Gerrath> Seveas, good.
[07:34] <Mattias> afk
[07:34] <dabi> any command to refresh nautilus desktop background image, except killing it?
[07:34] <Seveas> dabi, <ctrl>r
[07:34] <Seveas> (while having the sesktop active)
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[07:34] <dabi> Seveas with a command...
[07:34] <Seveas> hmm
[07:34] <yahalom> i need to access my routers firmware, any ideas?
[07:34] <Seveas> dunno
[07:34] <Seveas> xsetroot.>?
[07:36] <sam_> Seveas, I managed to update my acroread finally. Thanks for the help.
[07:38] <cmatheson> khermans, hmm, it's changing my domain name, but it's still not working for the username
[07:39] <RastaMahata> hello
[07:39] <luzbelricota> hi i has a problem with my sources list and i cant get hpoj package for install my multifunction printer. please help.
[07:39] <comforteagle> can I add any unstable debian sources to my ubuntu sources list and not totally screw up my intall?
[07:40] <cmatheson> comforteagle, no, don't add debian sources
[07:40] <Razor-X> anyone here experienced with LaTeX?
[07:40] <Seveas> comforteagle, no :)
[07:40] <cmatheson> comforteagle, if you have to you could download the deb and try installing it that way
[07:40] <Razor-X> comforteagle: hell no
[07:40] <yahalom> anyone here setup their adsl through the routers firmware instead of pppoeconf?
[07:40] <Razor-X> ;)
[07:40] <RastaMahata> /usr/bin/lesspipe: line 28: basename: command not found
[07:40] <Razor-X> yahalom: yeah
[07:40] <Seveas> luzbelricota: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:41] <yahalom> Razor-X, man, how can i do it?
[07:41] <londonboi2k3> Hell guys, having a hell of a time trying to install bzflag from CVS im it says libcurl is not install when in fact it is!
[07:41] <Razor-X> yahalom: does your router support dhcp?
[07:41] <yahalom> Razor-X, in windows i just browse to the gateway ip
[07:41] <yahalom> Razor-X, yes
[07:41] <cmatheson> londonboi2k3, you're going to need the libcurl-dev package
[07:41] <Razor-X> londonboi2k3: make sure to have the dev package
[07:41] <luzbelricota> seveas: did i copy and paste directly?
[07:42] <RastaMahata> I need help... When I open a terminal I get this errors:
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> (evolution:28110): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[07:42] <RastaMahata> /usr/bin/lesspipe: line 28: basename: command not found
[07:42] <RastaMahata> /usr/bin/lesspipe: line 222: [: =: unary operator expected
[07:42] <Razor-X> yahalom: why would you browse to the gateway IP, if DHCP is on?
[07:42] <Seveas> RastaMahata, basename is in coreutils, you either have screwed up your system or somethig odd is going on
[07:42] <londonboi2k3> libcurl-dev is installed
[07:42] <RastaMahata> Seveas, HDD malfunction?
[07:42] <yahalom> Razor-X, because i need to enter my username and password
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: (evolution:28110): Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration
[07:42] <yahalom> Razor-X, it uses pppoe too
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: any clue?
[07:42] <Seveas> RastaMahata, possible, but unlikely if you don't have other problems
[07:42] <Razor-X> yahalom: ahhh, je comprende
[07:43] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, it didn't work with another account?
[07:43] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, and nothing in /var/log/messages?
[07:43] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: tried re-logging in, did a bonobo-slay
[07:43] <yahalom> Razor-X, do u know how i can browse to it?
[07:43] <Razor-X> yahalom: my router uses pppoe, but that shouldn't interfere with the DHCP signal
[07:43] <RastaMahata> Seveas, maybe a reinstallation of coreutils through apt-get could resolve the problem?
[07:43] <Razor-X> yahalom: hold on, while I read up on some docs for you
[07:43] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: and no, I'm not creating another account
[07:43] <JonnyRo> The kernel-patch-<name> packages all require you to rebuild your kernel yourself correct?  They dont change the currently installed kernel
[07:43] <yahalom> Razor-X, thanx man
[07:43] <Seveas> RastaMahata, reinstall less to
[07:43] <RastaMahata> ok
[07:43] <JonnyRo> I'm tryig to set up a UML server, and need to use kernel-patch-skas
[07:43] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: Jul  4 18:44:41 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x0 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '
[07:43] <Shadowpillar> Jul  4 18:46:46 localhost bonobo-activation-server (tsunami-8493): Duff env. var ' 0x2 , 0x0 , 0x0 } '
[07:43] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, right, well don't expect any help if you don't help in debugging...
[07:43] <londonboi2k3> I think it may have something to do with SDL as in the configure it says could not find SDL
[07:44] <londonboi2k3> how do i  install that?
[07:44] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, install libsdl-dev
[07:44] <Razor-X> yahalom: have you tried it in the connections tab in Gnome-> System -> Administration -> Networking ?
[07:44] <Seveas> luzbelricota, visit that link and hit the download link
[07:44] <yahalom> Razor-X, nope
[07:44] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: I just gave you debug info
[07:44] <Razor-X> yahalom: well, there you are ;)
[07:44] <londonboi2k3> Seveas, ok its installing now, will try that
[07:44] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: well, the messages in /var/log/messages
[07:45] <londonboi2k3> thanks
[07:45] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, that doesn't help...
[07:45] <Seveas> try a fresh account...
[07:45] <yahalom> Razor-X, what do i do there?
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> where might i find fstab?
[07:45] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, /etc/fstab
[07:45] <yahalom> Razor-X, it asks for a phone number and stuff
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thank you
[07:45] <londonboi2k3> Seveas, Thanks, it worked :)
[07:45] <Razor-X> yahalom: Connections Tab
[07:45] <Razor-X> select "Ethernet Connection" and then Properties
[07:46] <RastaMahata> Seveas, I've got a broken pipe, or so it seems
[07:46] <yahalom> Razor-X, what does that help me? i see no ip there :(
[07:46] <RastaMahata> I couldnt reinstall coreutils
[07:46] <yahalom> Razor-X, nor gateway
[07:46] <Seveas> RastaMahata, you have a seriously messed up system then...
[07:46] <RastaMahata> But i didnt do anything?
[07:46] <RastaMahata> What can I do? :(
[07:47] <Seveas> maybe bad harddisk indeed
[07:47] <RastaMahata> anything!*
[07:47] <Razor-X> yahalom: Connection Settings -> Configuration and change it to manual
[07:47] <Seveas> try installing (and using) smartmontools
[07:47] <RastaMahata> ack
[07:47] <Razor-X> and input the gateway, ip, and such manually
[07:47] <Razor-X> RastaMahata: SYN?
[07:47] <Razor-X> ;)
[07:47] <RastaMahata> SYN?
[07:47] <Razor-X> XD
[07:47] <Razor-X> ACK is a form of network packet
[07:47] <Seveas> RastaMahata, Razor-X is being a geek :)
[07:47] <Razor-X> and so is SYN ;)
[07:48] <yahalom> Razor-X, no id what they are
[07:48] <Razor-X> that's why, you never say ACK when i'm around;)
[07:48] <RastaMahata> Seveas, whats smartmontools?
[07:48] <Razor-X> yahalom: ................
[07:48] <Razor-X> find out in Windows...
[07:48] <Seveas> it's a harddisk checking program
[07:48] <Razor-X> ok, what model router, by the way?
[07:48] <RastaMahata> ok
[07:48] <thp> how can i change my hz?
[07:48] <Seveas> Razor-X, btw: the correct order is SYN/SYNACK/ACK, not ACK/SYN
[07:48] <Seveas> hz?
[07:49] <Mestapheles> does anyone know how to adjust fstab to automount an external firewire CD burner?
[07:49] <yahalom> Razor-X, i dont use windows
[07:49] <Razor-X> Seveas: I know, I didn't say it in any order
[07:49] <thp> Hz, for my monitor
[07:49] <yahalom> Razor-X, ins;t there some command to bring up the gateway ip?
[07:49] <Seveas> Mestapheles, it can automount by not adding it to fstab :)
[07:49] <Razor-X> yahalom: then change it in your native totally-user-friendly operating system
[07:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok now this has me stumped what could be dening me access to a folder that i created on my desktop?
[07:49] <Seveas> thp, edit /etc/X11/corg.conf
[07:49] <Razor-X> yahalom: well, try DHCP and Manual (that should be one of them)
[07:49] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, bad permissions :)
[07:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit
[07:49] <Razor-X> thp: try saying monitor refresh rate ;)
[07:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to fix it?
[07:50] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, paste the output of ls -al ~/Desktop on the pastebin
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:50] <Razor-X> hz == hertz, which is a common measurement term, also used to measure processor-speed
[07:50] <Razor-X> and so you could be asking about software-overclocking
[07:50] <Razor-X> a whole 'nother ballgame ;)
[07:50] <Razor-X> the more verbose, the better
[07:50] <yahalom> Razor-X, i did DHCP but what do u mean manual?
[07:51] <Mestapheles> Seveas: but how do I use dmesg info to throw it in to fstab?  ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400]  - Max payload [2048]  doesn't seem intuitive
[07:51] <Razor-X> yahalom: hmmm.... can you get me a screenshot of the window? I don't use Gnome meself
[07:51] <RastaMahata> Seveas, errr... how do I use smartmontools :(
[07:51] <thp> when i try to login as root, it says, bad password, it didnt ask for root pw when i installed, only for my user
[07:51] <Razor-X> i'm using docs here, and can try and visualize stuff
[07:51] <yahalom> Razor-X, i cant now., i have to go., i appreciate ur help :)
[07:51] <Seveas> Mestapheles, ENOCLUE, never used firewire drives
[07:51] <Seveas> thp: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:51] <Razor-X> thp: root can be accessed by using sudo
[07:51] <yahalom> Razor-X, if i can message u later?
[07:51] <Razor-X> yahalom: go ahead
[07:51] <Seveas> there is no root password :)
[07:52] <Razor-X> yeah, what Seveas said ;)
[07:52] <memin> Hello, how can I remove openoffice v1.1.3?
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas here ya go ^_^ http://pastebin.com/307908
[07:52] <thp> ok, i check out, thanks
[07:52] <Razor-X> memin: remove the package from apt-get
[07:52] <Seveas> memin, remove it with synaptic :)
[07:52] <Razor-X> I may remove open-office, i'm debating
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the folder i'm interested in is called STORAGE
[07:52] <Razor-X> LaTeX makes it useless
[07:53] <Razor-X> but, it may come in useful later
[07:53] <comforteagle> are there any bleeding-edge apt-get sources?
[07:53] <memin> which one there ismore then such as fonts and languages?
[07:53] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you have correct permissions there, odd
[07:53] <James686> can you download themes for Ubuntu also for free?
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats what i thought
[07:53] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what exactly does it deny access to?
[07:53] <Seveas> comforteagle, backports comes close, but should be handled with care
[07:53] <Seveas> James686, of course
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the folder in ~/STORAGE called Angie's stuff
[07:53] <James686> NICE
[07:53] <James686> lol
[07:54] <comforteagle> Seveas, ok
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: okay, it works under another user
[07:54] <James686> Im so glad I got that setup running
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i put a new hard drive and have just petitiond it and mounted it
[07:54] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, ls -al ~/Desktop/STORAGE --> pastebin
[07:54] <memin> should I remove every package that has the word openoffice.*
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: using sudo
[07:54] <Seveas> memin, good plan :)
[07:54] <fortyoz> can you dist-upgrade debian stable to ubuntu ?
[07:54] <Seveas> fortyoz, not easily
[07:54] <Seveas> you need to use pinning to set ubuntu sources to 1001
[07:54] <fortyoz> k
[07:55] <jmjones> h
[07:55] <synstar> Hi, i have installed VLC but i can't get it to be my default player.  properties--->open with--->add application--> displays - could not add application to database?
[07:55] <tisaak> hello everyone
[07:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas here ya go http://pastebin.com/307912 ^_^
[07:56] <tisaak> does anyone use gnupg with evolution?
[07:56] <Razor-X> what's the best LaTeX book for learning advanced LaTeXing?
[07:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the mountpoint for the new drive is Storage is that a problem?
[07:56] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, hmm, you should be able to access it...
[07:57] <Arnia> Razor-X: I just use the Not So Short Guide and then learn the rest from example
[07:57] <gm78> Hey all. I changed some of my settings in users and groups under advanced, now when i do commands using sudo i am no longer asked for a password. i dont like this, what could have caused this change?
[07:57] <Razor-X> Arnia: as I am too ;)
[07:58] <Arnia> Razor-X: Although I'm about to experiment with using Wyneken to make producing a research log for my doctorate easier
[07:58] <Seveas> gm78, sudo remembers passwordds for a few minutes
[07:58] <Razor-X> but, I wouldn't mind a thorough examination on the nature of heavily formatted documents
[07:58] <gm78> Seveas, I rebooted the computer and it still did it
[07:58] <thp> If VertRefresh is "50-75" it should display 75Hz in the menu?
[07:58] <Seveas> that's odd
[07:58] <Seveas> check /etc/sudoers
[07:58] <Razor-X> Arnia: i'm assuming, many years from now, i'll be doing the same with LaTeX ;)
[07:58] <Seveas> if there are NOPASSWD clauses in there, remove them
[07:58] <Razor-X> a heavily formatted math paper, at that ;)
[07:59] <Arnia> Razor-X: http://www.99b.org/wyneken/
[07:59] <Razor-X> (hoping to major in Pure Math)
[07:59] <sektor> hey
[07:59] <synstar> Seveas, do you know why I cant make VLC my default viewer?
[07:59] <Arnia> Razor-X: I use LaTeX to write letters to friends... I just love it :)
[07:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k i'll try again
[07:59] <Seveas> wouldn't know...
[07:59] <moire> hey, i want to use licq with gnome
[07:59] <Rich43> whats the kernal version of the latest evrsion of ubuntu?
[07:59] <sektor> arnia that's just plain wrong :p
[07:59] <gm78> Seveas, omg...i swear, my computer hates me today. it just asked me for my password, after not doing it for about an hour. it also took away my permissions to use my audio device a few minutes ago. then the menu problems with autopackage before that. i give up :-P
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: I did it under another user, it worked
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: so, question is, why doesn't it work under minea
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> mine*
[08:00] <greenlightsaber> gm78, it could be worse, you could be running Windows and let the worms do all the work for you ;)
[08:00] <Razor-X> Arnia: heh, I haven't had much of a chance to, yet ;)
[08:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> could i have set up the drive wrong in fstab?
[08:00] <gm78> greenlightsaber, lol, true enough
[08:00] <Razor-X> since English class with essays is out for the summer
[08:00] <sektor> Rich43 5.04
[08:00] <sektor> i think
[08:00] <Rich43> 5?
[08:00] <Razor-X> (my summer English spplementary class doesen't have essays, insofar)
[08:00] <moire> i want to run licq under gtk, but the gtk plug in does not work
[08:00] <ions> anyone else getting the "es menu class init" error when starting evolution?
[08:00] <Arnia> sektor: I don't feel comfortable with any word processor available for Windows or Linux. If I get access to a powerbook, I may try Apple Pages, which seems closer to the concept I like using
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it dosen't matter what file i try sevas it give's me the access denied error
[08:01] <moire> ions: reboot tried?
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when i try to put it on the drive
[08:01] <ions> tried and failed
[08:01] <ions> happens with both 'evolution' & evolution-2.2'
[08:01] <sektor> Arnia: if i write a letter to a friend, i use thunderbird :p
[08:01] <Razor-X> Arnia: is it possible _not_ to love LaTeX?
[08:01] <ions> only thing I've done is setup VNC
[08:01] <moire> my evolution has suked also, but after a complete reboot of the machine it worked fine again
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas should i pastebin my fstab?
[08:01] <oliwer> hi all
[08:02] <sektor> Latex is a bit too much overhead to be easy to use
[08:02] <sektor> it just looks great
[08:02] <moire> latex jeans? *gg
[08:02] <kbrooks> Heh.
[08:02] <Arnia> sektor: I meant using snailmail -- since some of my friends live in the Western Isles and Cumbria and aren't really online
[08:02] <Razor-X> moire: note the capitalization of the word 'LaTeX' ;)
[08:02] <moire> hm cu
[08:02] <kbrooks> I'm updating ubuntu.....
[08:02] <sektor> Arnia: woa, right, ppl still use that :D
[08:02] <oliwer> hi kbrooks
[08:02] <kbrooks> wassup all
[08:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey guys is this right?
[08:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1       /Storage        ext3   rw,user,noauto       0	    0
[08:02] <moire> Razor-X: ok ok it was a joke by the way ;)
[08:02] <kbrooks> man, i want to watch dvds...
[08:03] <kbrooks> with totem
[08:03] <Razor-X> moire: same here
[08:03] <moire> g
[08:03] <MrBiscuit> :-P
[08:03] <Razor-X> kbrooks: that's what VLC's for
[08:03] <boiled> just a quick question. ever since i installed ubuntu some weeks ago firefix has crashed every time upon visiting www.kaspersky.com - just wondering if its only me having that prob
[08:03] <gm78> kbrooks, vlc + libdvdcss :P
[08:03] <sektor> i'm using KDE (kubuntu) but apparently Alt+right_click doesn't scale a window (like it does with redhat)
[08:03] <sektor> anyone know if you can set an option so it does do that?
[08:03] <kbrooks> gm78, um, okay. are you serious
[08:03] <Razor-X> i'm still plane-weary
[08:03] <thp> I can only choose 55Hz in 1152*768 my VertRefresh is set to 50-75
[08:03] <Razor-X> but, I still haven't figured out that one math question
[08:03] <oliwer> xine isn't too bad for dvd...
[08:04] <Razor-X> sektor: scale a window?
[08:04] <gm78> kbrooks, ummm, yeah, how come?
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone have any idea of my fstab question?
[08:04] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone else here share the pain of the Linuxant Driver?
[08:04] <sektor> Razor-X: woops, resize of course
[08:04] <Razor-X> sektor: ahhh
[08:04] <sektor> Chruch: no :p
[08:04] <Razor-X> the KDE Control Panel is incredibly configurable
[08:04] <James686> When Ubuntu first starts, what do I log in under?
[08:04] <Razor-X> I believe it's there
[08:05] <sektor> mkay, i'll go look then :)
[08:05] <RastaMahata> HA! I rebooted and now I cant do anything!
[08:05] <Razor-X> James686: teh username you created during install
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas are you there ?
[08:05] <James686> ok
[08:05] <RastaMahata> I want to backup but I cant access nautilus!
[08:05] <James686> lol
[08:05] <kbrooks> James686, huh....did you create a username
[08:05] <Razor-X> it's almost as configurable as Enlightenment ;)
[08:05] <sektor> it's just not under "windows preferences"
[08:05] <sektor> so i was wondering if it was here
[08:05] <James686> yeah but I didnt think that was...oh nevermind I'll just wait till it finishes installing again and select the RIGHT resolution this time lol
[08:05] <Vinh> cansomeone test http://203.122.214.110 and see if it works please
[08:06] <waterl00> which entry do i need in sources.list to get mplayer installed?
[08:06] <thp> it doesnt
[08:06] <gm78> Vinh, im giving it a shot right now
[08:07] <oliwer> Vinh > i am afroid not
[08:07] <Vinh> Dam, thx for trying
[08:07] <gm78> Vinh, i can ping your server, but i cant get anything in a web browser
[08:07] <oliwer> same for me
[08:08] <oliwer> hey ! is somebody used to VLC here ?
[08:08] <gm78> oliwer, i am, how come?
[08:08] <oliwer> i have a stupid problem
[08:08] <oliwer> i have no sound ^^
[08:08] <Razor-X> oliwer: shoot
[08:08] <Rich43> http://203.122.214.110/ works
[08:08] <Rich43> for me
[08:08] <Rich43> its fine
[08:08] <synstar> i get this error when i launch mplayer - New_Face failed.  Maybe wong font path is wrong.  Please suppy the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf))
[08:08] <goldfish> oliwer: got sound for anything else/
[08:08] <oliwer> yep
[08:08] <oliwer> i use oss
[08:08] <Rich43> nice ubunto http server :)
[08:08] <Razor-X> oh, it's a sound problem
[08:09] <Razor-X> oliwer: Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[08:09] <oliwer> kubuntu
[08:09] <Razor-X> as I thought
[08:09] <oliwer> damn
[08:09] <Vinh> Okay, can someone retry again please, I added i just added port 80 forward incase routed blocked it y default
[08:09] <waterl00> can anyone help me in installing mplayer and plugins to play mpg or avi files?
[08:09] <Rich43> Vinh it works
[08:09] <MrBiscuit> Oh that ip adress thingey worked ok for me
[08:09] <Razor-X> oliwer: you want to install vlc-arts
[08:10] <Vinh> thanks
[08:10] <Razor-X> errr
[08:10] <oliwer> i check if it is sinstalled
[08:10] <MrBiscuit> Can anyone tell me an alternate to the Linuxant Modem Drivers
[08:10] <Razor-X> vlc-plugin-arts
[08:10] <Razor-X> rather
[08:10] <oliwer> k
[08:10] <samuelk> i installed the kxdocker 0.35 but i when i right click on the bar i dont see the configurator.. so i configure kxdocker any one who could help me?
[08:10] <jasoncohen> waterl00, apt-get install mplayer-386
[08:11] <jasoncohen> waterl00, you need to enable multiverse
[08:11] <oliwer> razor-x > thx i am installing it
[08:11] <inemo> ubuntu ppc is still installing on my iBook, mother dropped a book on the keyboard and it typed "A", I deleted it and have left it, will it install ok?
[08:12] <inemo> it says "registering documentation...please wait"
[08:12] <oliwer> razor-x > thx again :)  It Works !
[08:13] <beowu1f> anyone know how to get higher resolution than 1280x1024 in xfce4?
[08:13] <steve-o> hi from Latvia
[08:13] <LokeDK> gtk-theme-switch doesn't work.. when I apply a theme I get segmentation fault
[08:14] <steve-o> got question about live-cd and install... Why when im runnin from live-cd , i can find XMMS in "add/remove prgs" , but in installed version , MULTIMEDIA section is almost empty ?:(
[08:14] <oliwer> steve-o > that's not a problem ;)
[08:14] <James686> ummmm HELP!!! it says a fatal error has occured during setup, and it says theres somethin wrong w/ the display driver or whatever
[08:14] <steve-o> how to resolve it ?
[08:15] <James686> WHY did that happen?
[08:15] <steve-o> oliwer, help please
[08:15] <James686> HOW can I fix it?
[08:15] <znh> dudes, I need some seriouse suggestion! - My dad is really got pissed of by his windows xp box (yes it got slow already xD).. and I suggested him to ubuntu, But It has to look like windows xp.. does anyone know a wm wich can be modificated to the look of xp?
[08:15] <oliwer> steve-o > look for kynaptic in the K menu
[08:15] <steve-o> :))) znh  :)))
[08:15] <goldfish> znh: kde reminds me of windows
[08:15] <Spec> znh: yes, but the one i've seen crashes like winXP, as well :p
[08:15] <samuelk> look at kde-loog.org
[08:15] <James686> how do I fix that problem?
[08:16] <Spec> James686: fix your xorg.conf configuration most likely
[08:16] <znh> hmm that's a very realistic team Spec, but that's the reason why he wants to leave windows :D
[08:16] <znh> *theme
[08:16] <oliwer> steve-o > Kynaptic is an easy way to install new softawares
[08:16] <James686> HOW???
[08:16] <James686> Im new at this
[08:16] <Spec> James686: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[08:16] <Spec> you yell at me, i point you to google
[08:16] <James686> Im sry
[08:16] <Spec> I know.
[08:16] <steve-o> oliwer, sorry , my iq level is ho "high" ... where is that "k menu" ?
[08:16] <James686> how do I fix it?
[08:17] <znh> but eh, someone some seriouse suggestions?
[08:17] <oliwer> steve-o > like the start menu of windows
[08:17] <ions> any of you have the problem where things won't stay where you lock them on Gnome panels?
[08:17] <oliwer> steve-o > ooops ? you have ubuntu or kubunto ?
[08:17] <znh> icewm is not modificatable enough
[08:17] <steve-o> maybe u wanted to say "Synaptic" ?:))
[08:17] <oliwer> steve-o > yes :)
[08:17] <steve-o> i've found smtn like synaptic packge manager :))
[08:17] <steve-o> hooraaay
[08:17] <kbrooks> god
[08:17] <steve-o> :)))
[08:18] <neospy> can anyone tell me how to get splashy????
[08:18] <oliwer> use it now !
[08:18] <James686> so how do I fix it? I dont get how it happened
[08:18] <kbrooks> archive.ubuntu.com IS SLOW!
[08:18] <waterl00> jasoncohen, thanks now it can download it
[08:18] <steve-o> oliwer,  but i still can't find a xmms there in multimedia
[08:18] <znh> kbrooks: it's just your lame internet connection :+
[08:18] <James686> ??
[08:18] <steve-o> :))
[08:18] <maswan> kbrooks: use a mirror?
[08:18] <oliwer> steve-o > i see the problem, wait a sec
[08:18] <kbrooks> LOL
[08:19] <kbrooks> maswan, no
[08:19] <znh> this may be interesting for me: http://www.qvwm.org/
[08:19] <steve-o> take a look man
[08:19] <Razor-X> anyone willing to test something for me?
[08:19] <kbrooks> ubotu, mirror
[08:19] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:19] <Razor-X> rather, a group of people ;)
[08:19] <kbrooks> ubotu, mirrors
[08:20] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:20] <kbrooks> hm
[08:20] <maswan> kbrooks: why not? things like us.archive.ubuntu.com or se.archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:20] <znh> Razor-X: what do you want me to test :)
[08:20] <Razor-X> znh: tell me which PDF looks better
[08:20] <Razor-X> which one looks more appealing to the eye, basically
[08:21] <znh> Razor-X: no pdf reader here currently, sorry
[08:21] <Razor-X> errrgggg >_<
[08:21] <Razor-X> anyone else willing to do it?
[08:22] <oliwer> steve-o > in the settings of synaptic, you should find how to add a thing called "universe"
[08:22] <Razor-X> ........
[08:22] <FaeWolfe> How can I get my scanner to work ?
[08:22] <Razor-X> you people just have to read a PDF
[08:22] <Razor-X> is this the thanks you give me for helping!!! ;)
[08:23] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: turned out that I just needed to kill the eds server, the bonobo activation server and gconf-2
[08:23] <Shadowpillar> gconfd-2
[08:23] <luzbelricota> hi wich one of this two you recommend for digital camera: gphoto2 - The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client
[08:23] <luzbelricota> gtkam - GTK+ application for digital still cameras
[08:23] <luzbelricota> gtkam-gimp - gtkam gimp plugin
[08:23] <luzbelricota> ?
[08:24] <Razor-X> luzbelricota: they're both the same thing
[08:24] <Razor-X> do you know what GIMP is?
[08:24] <sam_> is anybody running advancemame here?
[08:24] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: what's the problem?
[08:25] <steve-o> oliwer, got any news there? :\
[08:25] <oliwer> steve-o > in the settings of synaptic, you should find how to add a thing called "universe"
[08:25] <znh> FaeWolfe: Her?
[08:25] <Will__> znh: I think that means she is female
[08:25] <Will__> Google it. *Grin*
[08:26] <zooko> Anybody know how to install mplayer on breezy?
[08:26] <zooko> 
[08:26] <FaeWolfe> Razor: I get the message = Failed to open device'snapscan:libusb:002:003': Invalid argument
[08:26] <Razor-X> znh: stop drooling, you idiot ;)
[08:26] <FaeWolfe> znh, yes her and I'm happily married lol
[08:26] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: well, i'm about to configure my scanner too, so i'm about te step into this myself
[08:26] <luzbelricota> thanks razor
[08:26] <znh> Aww.. xD
[08:27] <Razor-X> *to
[08:27] <FaeWolfe> lol znh
[08:27] <oliwer> steve-o > I've found a tuto that will resolve your problem > http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:27] <znh> FaeWolfe: so your housband has a linux-geek-wife ?
[08:27] <steve-o> oh !
[08:28] <steve-o> thanks
[08:28] <Razor-X> marriage is a long ways here ;)
[08:28] <James686> so how do I get rid of that problem so I can go on the desktop?
[08:28] <oliwer> sorry, i am not familiar with synaptic
[08:28] <znh> James686: By fixing it
[08:28] <Razor-X> if anyone would want to marry a math/linux geek ;)
[08:28] <James686> and by fixing it I do what?
[08:28] <FaeWolfe> znh: my hubby has a linux newbie geek wife lol
[08:29] <artist303> hi all
[08:29] <znh> blah.. why don't my gf love linux :(
[08:29] <James686> znh, how do I fix it?
[08:29] <Razor-X> znh: hahahahaha!
[08:29] <FaeWolfe> lol znh
[08:29] <inemo> does hoary come with python installed?
[08:29] <znh> James686: what's your problem exactly :)?
[08:29] <artist303> i migrated from Fedora 3 to Ubuntu...
[08:29] <oliwer> znh > i have a french howto for this :)
[08:30] <James686> it shows this huge critical error message about no devices being detected and crap like that
[08:30] <znh> oliwer: If you translate it for me ;)
[08:30] <zooko> /quit bye for now
[08:30] <zooko> 
[08:30] <Will__> Does breezy come with a cute-linux-geekette?
[08:30] <inemo> does hoary come with python installed?
[08:31] <osiris> Hello im trying to install the Nforce platform drivers from www.nvidia.com i have installed them but lspci still says that the audio device is unknown, which file do i edit as the guid only tells you how to do it in suse and redhat
[08:31] <FaeWolfe> can anyone tell me how to get my scanner working ? :(
[08:31] <James686> so do you know the answer?
[08:31] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: model number would help too ;)
[08:31] <znh> James686: what's the prob?
[08:31] <RastaMahata> hey
[08:31] <James686> read what I asked above...
[08:31] <RastaMahata> how can I burn an ISO from the command line?
[08:32] <FaeWolfe> hang on a sec Razor...............I know it's an acer
[08:32] <znh> RastaMahata: by typing something on the command-line
[08:32] <RastaMahata> znh, really? woah!
[08:32] <RastaMahata> ..
[08:32] <znh> RastaMahata: yea did you ever though that!
[08:32] <RastaMahata> yeah, actually!
[08:32] <znh> RastaMahata: cdrecord does it :)
[08:32] <RastaMahata> thanks
[08:32] <FaeWolfe> Razor, I don't know how much it's gonna help., but it's an Acer 6678-AVA
[08:33] <osiris> Hello im trying to install the Nforce platform drivers from www.nvidia.com i have installed them but lspci still says that the audio device is unknown, which file do i edit as the guid only tells you how to do it in suse and redhat
[08:33] <James686> any answer?
[08:33] <RastaMahata> My HDD just crashed, I need to backup and format :(
[08:33] <znh> you have taste FaeWolfe, I've got a LCD panel of Acer.. it's awesome stuff
[08:33] <me2pilou> hello :)
[08:33] <moire> test
[08:33] <James686> ???
[08:33] <znh> moire: succeeded
[08:33] <moire> :)
[08:33] <me2pilou> I have'nt sound on some games is there someone to help me ?
[08:33] <znh> James686: before I can give you an answer, please tell the question :)
[08:34] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: mmmkay
[08:34] <Razor-X> USB, correct?
[08:34] <James686> I already did!
[08:34] <FaeWolfe> yup
[08:34] <James686> wow...
[08:34] <osiris> has anyone installed the nforce platform drivers in Ubuntu before
[08:34] <osiris> ?
[08:34] <znh> James686: I didn't receive it then :/
[08:34] <James686> ok lol
[08:34] <artist303> I could not find any initscript for iptables... is there any?
[08:34] <James686> I said I get this huge critical error message that says it doesnt detect any devices and crap like that
[08:35] <James686> even the device drivers and video drivers
[08:35] <znh> James686: when? by starting our lovely X server?
[08:35] <James686> so...how do I fix that?
[08:35] <znh> by=while
[08:35] <James686> yes
[08:35] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: try this
[08:35] <James686> the X server
[08:35] <Razor-X> sudo apt-get install sane
[08:35] <Will__> X has never been lovely
[08:35] <znh> James686: can you tell me some more detailed error information?
[08:35] <James686> ummm..hold on...
[08:36] <znh> Will__ you don't know anything of romanice ;)
[08:36] <j_fletcher> ^ Will__
[08:36] <osiris> Does anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?
[08:36] <FaeWolfe> ty Razor, will let you know if it works
[08:36] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: w-wait!
[08:36] <RastaMahata> AH GREAT! cdrecord.mmap: not found ...
[08:36] <khermans> I cannot load the fglrx module in my linux-686 image!
[08:37] <znh> RastaMahata: congrats
[08:37] <znh> khermans: You have to install it, before you can load it :] 
[08:37] <RastaMahata> znh, please dont be sarcastic in times like these...
[08:37] <j_fletcher> lol
[08:37] <khermans> znh, i have
[08:37] <khermans> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:37] <Will__> znh: Romance? X?
[08:37] <j_fletcher> rofl, I can imagine him being bare upset that he cant burn hi CD
[08:38] <znh> Will__: hmm.. can you feel her lovely breath against your chin.. *sigh*
[08:38] <khermans> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 300859 2005-04-04 18:44 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko
[08:38] <j_fletcher> as if his dog just died or somthing
[08:38] <FaeWolfe> ok Razor       sorry had to leave the puter for a sec
[08:38] <Will__> You killed his dog?
[08:38] <RastaMahata> j_fletcher, my dog did die recently, so please stfu
[08:38] <khermans> Anyone running fglrx driver in 686 image?
[08:38] <kbrooks> RastaMahata, watch it
[08:38] <kbrooks> be nice
[08:39] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: now try
[08:39] <kbrooks> obey the ubuntu code of conduct
[08:39] <zeeeee> hi all, i'm trying to run "jackd -d alsa" but i get "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again"...... please help!
[08:39] <Razor-X> sane-find-scanners
[08:39] <znh> kbrooks: calm down :)
[08:39] <Will__> I'm far too sarcastic to be here tonight
[08:39] <kbrooks> calm down eh?
[08:39] <RastaMahata> kbrooks, what? people are being sarcastic and mocking because My HDD just died, and I cant say a word about it?
[08:39] <kbrooks> fine!
[08:39] <FaeWolfe> Razor, do I use terminal still to do that?
[08:39] <osiris> Does anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?
[08:40] <znh> RastaMahata: when do you get that message?
[08:40] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: yeahp
[08:40] <kbrooks> RastaMahata, er, never mind
[08:40] <RastaMahata> when I try to run cdrecord...
[08:40] <Razor-X> most everything I do is done in command-line
[08:40] <znh> RastaMahata: how did you install cdrecord?
[08:40] <khermans> Anyone have FGLRX working?
[08:41] <RastaMahata> sigh... I think I'll just install a second HDD, backup there and then do a zero fill
[08:41] <RastaMahata> znh, apt-get
[08:41] <FaeWolfe> Razor   bash:sane-find-scanners:command not found
[08:41] <jmjones> khermans: i do
[08:41] <Razor-X> word-processing, forms of messaging, text editing, websurfing (ocasionally), music listening, etc.
[08:41] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:41] <khermans> jmjones, do you have the linux-686 image?
[08:41] <jmjones> khermans: as good as it gets i guess....
[08:41] <znh> khermans: I had it working yes, but the performance was so bad I cried all night cuz of my hard work to get it working was so damn unnessacery
[08:41] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: did you sudo apt-get install sane?
[08:41] <Razor-X> errr, sorry!
[08:41] <Razor-X> sane-find-scanner
[08:41] <znh> okay that's not fully true..
[08:41] <FaeWolfe> lol lemme try again
[08:41] <jmjones> khermans: i initially used the xorg fglrx package
[08:41] <znh> RastaMahata: had the same, I compiled my own binary and it worked perfectly
[08:41] <khermans> jmjones, thats what i am trying
[08:41] <RastaMahata> ok, will do
[08:42] <jmjones> khermans: it sucked at 3d and sucked worse at 2d stuff like playing dvds
[08:42] <khermans> muhahaha
[08:42] <FaeWolfe> okies if detected it now to see if it works           I'll let you know
[08:42] <Razor-X> errr.....
[08:42] <znh> _blinking_
[08:42] <jmjones> khermans: i uninstalled it, downloaded the binary from ati and installed it.
[08:42] <Razor-X> try scanimage -L
[08:42] <znh> hmm.. how does that blinking work in irssi
[08:42] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:42] <znh> blinking
[08:42] <znh> blinking
[08:42] <James686> ok, here is what it says...some of it anyway
[08:42] <jmjones> khermans: it's working much better - although not as good on 2d stuff as the plain at driver.....
[08:43] <znh> khermans: buying a Nvidia card is better then wasting your time with ATi
[08:43] <khermans> jmjones, if you do a "uname -r" , do you have a 386 or 686 kernel image?
[08:43] <jmjones> khermans: but depending on what you've got video card-wise, the xorg driver may work just fine with you
[08:43] <khermans> znh, this is an IBM T30 laptop -- cant replce
[08:43] <jmjones> khermans: 686
[08:43] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:43] <jmjones> khermans: which card you got?
[08:43] <znh> khermans: have you got some Radeon 8500 - ?
[08:44] <FaeWolfe> Razor, is there anything else I need to do? it's telling me the make and model of my scanner now
[08:44] <khermans> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 
[08:44] <jmjones> khermans: it's worth a try, then
[08:44] <James686> I cannot start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not setup correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[08:44] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: well, try using a normal scanning application, if not, i'll give you specific instructions henceforth scanning
[08:44] <jmjones> maybe yours will work.....
[08:44] <marzio> ciao a tutti
[08:44] <James686> Fatal Server Error:  No screens found
[08:44] <FaeWolfe> ok I'll get back to you in a sec
[08:44] <znh> James686: oh
[08:45] <znh> James686: what does it say before no screens found
[08:45] <Whistler> how can i install SDL for my ubuntu?
[08:45] <znh> James686: and have you ran xf86config or xf86cfg already?
[08:45] <znh> Whistler: apt-get install libsdl-*
[08:45] <FaeWolfe> Razor, I'm still getting that error message
[08:45] <Razor-X> ahhhh, ok then
[08:45] <djp> i gather you cannot delete entries created using smed the gnome menu editor at present. would that be correct?
[08:46] <khermans> jmjones, why would it fail to insert if the file is there!?!?
[08:46] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: try this
[08:46] <Razor-X> sudo apt-get install xsane
[08:46] <Razor-X> for a nice, graphical environment ;)
[08:46] <jmjones> khermans: here's my xorg.conf that works with the new ati drivers.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/412
[08:46] <kbrooks> wtf is xsane
[08:46] <jmjones> khermans: dunno
[08:46] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:46] <Razor-X> kbrooks: the X enabled version of sane
[08:46] <hosler> How do I install superkaramba on gnome? Do I absoultley need the KDE headers?
[08:46] <khermans> jmjones, Xorg wont start -- thats the issue
[08:47] <kbrooks> and sane is what?
[08:47] <kbrooks> oh
[08:47] <James686> (EE) No Devices Detected
[08:47] <Whistler> E: Broken packages
[08:47] <Razor-X> kbrooks: google is your friend ;)
[08:47] <James686> then it skips a bunch of config files
[08:47] <Whistler> when i tyoe  apt-get install libsdl-*
[08:47] <FaeWolfe> Razor, says I already have it
[08:47] <oliwer> hostler > why do you care ? use synaptic
[08:47] <znh> James686: oh oh.. you got a ugly X server..
[08:47] <kbrooks> Razor-X, i know what it means.......
[08:47] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: type in "xsane" then ;)
[08:47] <James686> so...what do I do?
[08:47] <znh> James686: have you ran xf86config already?
[08:47] <James686> lol
[08:47] <hosler> oliwer: superkaramba inst in synaptic
[08:47] <James686> which is?
[08:48] <James686> to config the resolution and all?
[08:48] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:48] <oliwer> hostler > http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:48] <FaeWolfe> Razor, that error message pops up
[08:48] <FaeWolfe> :(
[08:48] <jmjones> khermans: here's my xorg.conf that worked with the xorg fglrx: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/413
[08:48] <jmjones> khermans: did you state what error you were getting?
[08:48] <hosler> ok
[08:48] <khermans> jmjones, well "no screens found" -- but i think it is because "modprobe fglrx" fails
[08:49] <khermans> says file doesnt exist,  but it does
[08:49] <James686> so how do I fix that?
[08:49] <znh> James686: and also your videocard config, which seems to be non-good-or-something
[08:49] <James686> yeah
[08:49] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[08:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are there any fstab experts here?
[08:49] <jmjones> khermans: do you get an error when you modprobe fglrx?
[08:49] <khermans> yes
[08:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need help with my fstab
[08:49] <khermans> jmjones, -rw-r--r--  1 root root 300859 2005-04-04 18:44 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko
[08:49] <znh> I bet they use IIS as webserver
[08:49] <jmjones> khermans: which kernel are you running?
[08:49] <j_fletcher> gnome4the win
[08:49] <khermans> jmjones, FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:50] <FaeWolfe> Razor [snapscan} cannot open firmware file path/path/to/your/firmware/file.bin
[08:50] <inemo> nalioth_wrkn: ping
[08:50] <khermans> jmjones, linux-686
[08:50] <j_fletcher> jmjones: send him a version request, probly tell u
[08:50] <James686> so I cant go on the desktop w/ out havin the net?
[08:50] <jmjones> 2.6.10-5-686?
[08:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can't seem to get files to copy to a hard drive i set up with qtparted
[08:50] <khermans> jmjones, 2.6.10-5-686
[08:50] <FaeWolfe> and then edit firmware file entry in snapscan.conf
[08:50] <jmjones> what do you get with `find /lib/modules -name "*fglrx*" -print`?
[08:50] <oliwer> never buy ati cards again :)
[08:51] <j_fletcher> mine works great
[08:51] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[08:51] <khermans> oliwer, kinda hard with a laptop..
[08:51] <ions> any of you guys have problems getting gnome-panel to keep it's settings even after you have selected save current setup in logout?
[08:51] <jmjones> oliwer: i don't disagree with that
[08:51] <oliwer> j_fletcher > u have acceleration ?
[08:51] <jmjones> just like i won't ever buy an abit motherboard again
[08:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so can anyone help me with my fstab problem
[08:51] <znh> oliwer: Radeon 8500 drivers are quite good, so don't blame ATi globally
[08:51] <oliwer> :)
[08:51] <jmjones> not intentionally anyway....
[08:52] <khermans> jmjones, /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko AND /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko
[08:52] <oliwer> i had a 9800 pro that didn't work so well :(
[08:52] <Razor-X> back, sorry
[08:52] <FaeWolfe> Razor did you see what I said ?
[08:52] <znh> oliwer: such a good card.. being wrecked by the ATi drivers :(
[08:52] <Whistler> anybody knows where i can find games list aviable via apt-get?
[08:52] <oliwer> do you have hadware accelaration with 8500 ?
[08:52] <James686> why cant I get Ubuntu to install properly then?
[08:52] <Razor-X> yeah, I did...
[08:52] <FaeWolfe> ok
[08:52] <khermans> jmjones, this really sucks -- i have no idea why
[08:53] <Razor-X> i'm sorry, can you retype your model in?
[08:53] <znh> oliwer: I had with my 9600 Pro
[08:53] <jmjones> khermans: i thought when i had the xorg fglrx drivers installed i had a <version>/kernel/drivers/video and a <version>/kernel/drivers/char/drm entry....
[08:53] <Razor-X> this room is chatting to quickly for me to scroll up effectively
[08:53] <khermans> jmjones, im going to reboot and head back to 386 image since it might work there
[08:53] <oliwer> ok...
[08:53] <jmjones> khermans: give that a shot...alternately, try the new ati drivers.
[08:53] <khermans> k
[08:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't get it i formated a drive ext3 set it up in fstab
[08:53] <khermans> jmjones, thx for help dude
[08:53] <Razor-X> can someone here do me a favor, as well?
[08:53] <jmjones> i'm having better success with them than the ones in hoary.
[08:53] <James686> ??
[08:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and when i try to copy over the data that i made
[08:53] <znh> Razor-X: about those pdf?
[08:53] <jmjones> dvd play isn't the best, but it's not terrible....
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to the new hard drive it tells me access denied
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.< any idea why?
[08:54] <khermans> jmjones, you nee to enable DMA
[08:54] <hosler> I cant get sound while playing dvds in mplayer. How do i fix this?
[08:54] <oliwer> Intel Extrem Graphics >> best graphic chipset ever ^^
[08:54] <James686> hello?
[08:54] <znh> oliwer: lol
[08:54] <znh> James686: use nicknames while chatting, then it will highlight at there client
[08:55] <oliwer> znh > that's what i have lol and it is perfect for TuxRacer
[08:55] <James686> can you answer me znh?
[08:55] <znh> oliwer: I'm happy for you ;)
[08:55] <znh> James686: use this to get my attention: znh: can you answer me?
[08:55] <Whistler> i installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?
[08:56] <Razor-X> back again Fae
[08:56] <FaeWolfe> okies
[08:56] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe
[08:56] <Razor-X> yeah,
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i'm being denied wright permissions to my hdb1 hard drive is there a way to fix?
[08:56] <James686> well you obviously know my question now plz answer me
[08:56] <Whistler> chmod
[08:56] <Razor-X> sister was opening printer and taking out ink cartridge ;)
[08:56] <FaeWolfe> lol
[08:56] <Tsukasa> ChurcH_of_FoamY, sudo chmod 777 /dev/hdX
[08:56] <James686> PLZ I want this to be done and I g2g to work very soon
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[08:56] <znh> James686: Have you ran xf86config or xorgconfig whatever you have already?
[08:56] <Whistler> i installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?
[08:56] <James686> how do I do that?
[08:57] <Tsukasa> Whistler, tried crossfire-client-gtk?
[08:57] <FaeWolfe> Razor, it's an Acer 6678-AVA                 lol
[08:57] <oliwer> what is crossfire ? a firewall ?
[08:57] <znh> James686: by typing it: xorgconfig
[08:57] <znh> James686: with the buttons on your keyboard
[08:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope diden't work >.<
[08:58] <oliwer> Did somebody here tested AfterStep ?
[08:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to mount the hard drive using sudo?
[08:58] <Tsukasa> ChurcH_of_FoamY, sudo mount /dev/hdX
[08:58] <Tsukasa> if it's in fstab
[08:58] <znh> oliwer: Nope, is it good?
[08:58] <Tsukasa> otherwise you need extra parameters like mount point and type
[08:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[08:59] <Suepahfly> "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win"  for example
[08:59] <oliwer> znh > it looks very nice, but i am afraid to install it
[08:59] <goldfish> oliwer: what is it?
[08:59] <znh> oliwer: I'll do it at my silly laptop
[08:59] <oliwer> ok thx
[08:59] <znh> oliwer: i'll keep you informed
[09:00] <oliwer> afterstep is a windows manager (like gnome ...) but it's very... different
[09:00] <Suepahfly> btw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?
[09:00] <goldfish> i see.
[09:00] <goldfish> i'm happy with fluxbox
[09:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no matter what i do i can't get access to that drive >.<
[09:00] <Razor-X> ugghhh, back... again
[09:00] <oliwer> znh > actualy, there are .deb packages for afterstep
[09:00] <Razor-X> Tsukasa: Kite!!!
[09:00] <FaeWolfe> wb
[09:01] <Tsukasa> Razor-X: Shuugo!!!
[09:01] <znh> oliwer: yea I'm downloading it right now
[09:01] <oliwer> but is it enough to have the choice beetween kde and afterstep at startup
[09:01] <Tsukasa> bah kde
[09:01] <oliwer> tsukasa > kde better than gnome !
[09:01] <Tsukasa> that's your opinion :)
[09:01] <Tsukasa> I think kde is the bloated porn queen of window managers ;)
[09:02] <Suepahfly> i preffer gonme over kde
[09:02] <oliwer> i like trolling ^^
[09:02] <oliwer> you will burn in hell
[09:02] <Tsukasa> yay
[09:02] <Tsukasa> :)
[09:02] <inemo> what are the recommendations for VNC servers on hoary?
[09:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow when i started using ubuntu a few monthes ago
[09:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there where only like 300 people in here ^_^
[09:03] <thenuke> inemo: hoary has vnc -server already
[09:03] <znh> inemo: a fast connection the the client is always nice, the hardware doesn't really mather it works fast on my 120mhz laptop
[09:03] <oliwer> anyway, everybody should look at www.afterstep.org
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> If VLC and Totem will not play the sound in quicktime files, but mplayer will, what does that mean?
[09:03] <inemo> thenuke: where?
[09:03] <thenuke> inemo: you should find it from some menu on the top of the screen in gnome
[09:03] <Tsukasa> inemo, system -> settings -> remote desktop
[09:03] <inemo> znh: I meant vnc server software, ie software that shares the hoary screen ;)
[09:04] <inemo> thenuke Tsukasa thanks :)
[09:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a hard drive how to for ubuntu?
[09:04] <thenuke> inemo: tweak the settings of the server if you dont have enough bandwidth.
[09:04] <oliwer> taltan ?
[09:04] <FaeWolfe> ack I have to shut down   t-storms      Razor thanks for tryin to help I'll be back later to try to figure it out again
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you mean partitioning or mounting?
[09:04] <thenuke> inemo: drop down the number of colours and sometinhg like that
[09:05] <inemo> thenuke: its over 54mb airport, so 256 colours is fine
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i used qtparted to partition and format it ext3
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i use konq to mount it
[09:05] <Razor-X> FaeWolfe: nooooooooooo!!!!
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> okay, and then?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought i made the correct changes in fstab
[09:05] <Whistler> i installed crossfire-client-gtk so how can i run it now?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but for some reason i can't wright to the drive
[09:05] <Suepahfly> btw, anyone know how to get the buttons on my logitec mx1000 working?
[09:05] <Razor-X> I need to send a queued message on IRC :(
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: is it NTFS?
[09:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no ext3
[09:05] <Tsukasa> Whistler, try to locate it using whereis crossfire, maybe this gives you a clue
[09:06] <aCiD2> Hey, all im trying to get my xp partition to automount, so I do this by editing fstab, correct?
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: oops sorry.
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i changd it from ntfs
[09:06] <znh> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to be root to change the fstab file
[09:06] <Suepahfly> yes aCiD2
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was in root when i changed it
[09:06] <znh> ok
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it dosen't want to let me wright to it
[09:06] <znh> oliwer: okay almost done installing
[09:06] <aCiD2> ok, well I tried adding "/dev/hdb5	/mnt/windows	ntfs	defaults,user	0	0" but it seems I need to be root to access it
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not even when i mount it as root
[09:06] <aCiD2> Whys that?
[09:06] <oliwer> znh > good luck :)
[09:06] <znh> \o/
[09:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i have to get this drive working
[09:07] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, : /dev/hda1       /mnt/win1       ntfs    ro,user,nosuid,umask=000        0       0, this is a line from my fstab
[09:07] <aCiD2> ah, ok
[09:07] <aCiD2> Ill give those options a shot
[09:07] <kbrooks> huh
[09:07] <kbrooks> #1?
[09:07] <MrBiscuit> Anyone know an alternative to Linuxant HSF Modem Drivers
[09:07] <Suepahfly> note the umask=000
[09:07] <kbrooks> on distrowatch?
[09:07] <oliwer> znh > ddid u ever use nextstep ?
[09:07] <aCiD2> I used 0222
[09:07] <aCiD2> (when I do it manually)
[09:07] <kbrooks> *looks at everything *
[09:07] <kbrooks> :P
[09:08] <inemo> Tsukasa: how do I tweak the settings behind remote desktop?
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is there something i'm missing?
[09:08] <znh> oliwer: nope only used: windowmaker, enlightenment(E), KDE, gnome, icewm, qvwm, evilwm, fluxbox, xfce4, and after a while afterstep
[09:08] <AlexFrenz> hello world! I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:08] <znh> AlexFrenz: hello user!
[09:08] <AlexFrenz> hello znh
[09:08] <aCiD2> whats the syntax to remount a partition?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> I would also like to know how to mount my partition with write access to it
[09:08] <oliwer> znh > lol you really have time to lose ^^
[09:08] <Tsukasa> inemo, try /etc/vnc.conf
[09:08] <anacron> hi, is it possible to make linux write ntfs?
[09:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey maybe thats what i have to do ^_^
[09:09] <znh> oliwer: eh?
[09:09] <define> Hi guys
[09:09] <Suepahfly> anacron, no not totally yet
[09:09] <Kyral> Not unless you wanna kill your drive
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> aCiD2: you mean unmount and mount it again?  umount /dev/hd??; mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/whatever
[09:09] <Suepahfly> but there are people working on it
[09:09] <Tsukasa> aCiD2, I know that you can remount everything using mount -a
[09:09] <MrBiscuit> is there an alternative to linuxant
[09:09] <define> hey hoe would you guys rate ubuntu security-wise out of the box
[09:09] <inemo> Tsukasa: as root?
[09:09] <Razor-X> can someone do a favor for me?
[09:09] <aCiD2> tiglionabbit, theres a way to do something like "mount remount"
[09:09] <anacron> okey, so how should i move some files to my windows partition? if i can write to ntfs
[09:09] <Tsukasa> inemo, yep, edit it as root
[09:09] <oliwer> znh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> aCiD2: o.
[09:09] <znh> define: well it's more secure then our billy gay's ms
[09:10] <znh> oliwer: yea i'm still not statisfied
[09:10] <kbrooks> gad
[09:10] <AlexFrenz> I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[09:10] <kbrooks> emacs is a big deal...
[09:10] <kbrooks> sheesh
[09:10] <Nintendud> I'm compiling mplayer from source, but it doesn't see xv. When I used the precompiled mplayer package installed with apt-get, I could use xv. The reason i compiled is because it will perform a lot faster on my computer. Is there any solution?
[09:10] <oliwer> znh > u tested quiet a lot of windows manager
[09:10] <anacron> hey anybody? do have an idea for moving some files to ntfs partition?
[09:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought i had done everything right >.<
[09:10] <define> palm OS is more secure than MS out of the box...i need something a bit more precise
[09:10] <oliwer> oops
[09:10] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, I used your fstab options, did a "mount -a" but I still cant get in, think I need a reboot?
[09:10] <goldfish> anacron: you can't write safely to ntfs from linux.
[09:10] <define> znh
[09:10] <kbrooks> Nintendud, don't compile!!!!!
[09:10] <znh> define
[09:11] <Nintendud> kbrooks: >:O why not??
[09:11] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, got the correct partion?
[09:11] <anacron> goldfish, yeah i already know that, but what should i do then
[09:11] <luzbelricota> hi, wich program you recommend me for design web pages under linux ?
[09:11] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup
[09:11] <Nintendud> it plays with x11, but it is not full screen with -fs!!
[09:11] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu
[09:11] <goldfish> luzbelricota: vim !
[09:11] <Suepahfly> and did you make a directory for your mount point?
[09:11] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, its not updating the permissions with the umask though
[09:11] <Nintendud> so either I need to figure out how to get it to play full screen with x11, or xv
[09:11] <Suepahfly> a reboot might help
[09:11] <znh> luzbelricota: nano is nice
[09:11] <luzbelricota> nvu and vim, can i get with apt-get ?
[09:11] <aCiD2> ok, i'll give that a shot
[09:11] <aCiD2> brb
[09:11] <goldfish> anacron: well, i made a fat32 partition to share between windows and linux.
[09:11] <luzbelricota> znh: i want a visual one
[09:12] <AlexFrenz> HELLO.I've a simple question: how can i disable the power management of the HD in the ACPI sistem?
[09:12] <cieffe> hi everybody
[09:12] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu is available via apt-get
[09:12] <luzbelricota> sorry, vnu and vim are visual editors?
[09:12] <znh> luzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: do you mean you can't write to it with sudo, or can't write to it at all?  I believe it is normal in unix permissions to not be able to write to something outside your home directory
[09:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can't at all
[09:12] <luzbelricota> yeah, graphical
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> without super permissions..
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> oh
[09:12] <luzbelricota> sorry my english
[09:12] <Tsukasa> luzbelricota, nvu is the next generation of the old netscape composer (correct me if i'm wrong)
[09:12] <anacron> goldfish, well i can't do that, so is there a way to access linux partition from windows?
[09:12] <kbrooks> #define visual console
[09:12] <kbrooks> ??
[09:12] <kbrooks> znh, do you mean console?
[09:13] <goldfish> anacron: well u can copy files, one second.
[09:13] <znh> kbrooks: when?
 luzbelricota: nano is visual, you might mean graphical.. try gedit :) or nedit
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can't wright to it at all it denise me access
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> weather i mount it as root or as user
[09:13] <Nintendud> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?
[09:13] <znh> kbrooks: eh.. console doesn't fit there?
[09:13] <anacron> goldfish, copy how?, could you tell me some more?
[09:14] <kbrooks> znh, 'a console application'
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what I mean is, open a root terminal and try to create a directory in that partition or something, or "sudo nautilus" and use that
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok
[09:14] <sam_> I still haven't been able to update azureus in ubuntu. Any suggestions. Tried sudo -s and then running it but no luck.
[09:14] <znh> kbrooks: nano is a console application, you might mean graphical, like gedit and nedit - better?
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll try have know idea what nautalus is though
[09:14] <Nintendud> nautilus is gnome's file manager
[09:15] <davro> when you press ctrl+alt f1 etc how would i go about changing the font size on this console screen ?
[09:15] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup, thats got it :) Thank you!
[09:15] <znh> oliwer: installing takes a while on my 120mhz laptop.. it's still busy with his configuration files
[09:15] <AlexFrenz> anybody can help me?
[09:15] <goldfish> anacron: Program is called Explore2fs
[09:15] <oliwer> yep nano is cooool !
[09:15] <Suepahfly> aCiD2,  np :)
[09:15] <znh> nano is awesome while transparant..
[09:15] <anacron> goldfish, okey i'll do some google-stuff thanks ;)
[09:15] <goldfish> np
[09:15] <goldfish> znh: everything is awesome transparent !
[09:16] <James686> ok I did that, still did not work!
[09:16] <aCiD2> now I have one more question
[09:16] <znh> goldfish: eh.. not everything ;)
[09:16] <aCiD2> When I go to places -> computer
[09:16] <goldfish> znh: :)
[09:16] <oliwer> but ms notepad is better
[09:16] <luzbelricota> i am trying to download nvu from apt-get and doesnt finds anything
[09:16] <aCiD2> I see the windwos drive as "99g harddrive" - is it possible to rename this?
[09:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i forgot a step
[09:16] <oliwer> ..
[09:16] <Suepahfly> i really dunno
[09:16] <znh> :P
[09:16] <James686> znh: not workin
[09:16] <aCiD2> well, its no biggy :)
[09:16] <znh> oliwer: jus hit startx
[09:17] <znh> James686: xorgconfig ?
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have the mountpoint as /Storage and it created that folder on my hard drive
[09:17] <othernoob> does anyone know an RTS-channel on irc?
[09:17] <James686> didnt work
[09:17] <Suepahfly> i see mine as 51gb drive, 19.4 gb drive, ect. ect.
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not the one that is storage
[09:17] <lok> r irc.ircsuper.net
[09:17] <znh> James686: what error message :)
[09:17] <aCiD2> Suepahfly, yup
[09:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> on hdb1
[09:17] <oliwer_> znh ?
[09:17] <znh> oliwer_: yes?
[09:17] <kbrooks> aCiD2, might be possible, let me check
[09:17] <lok> oups sorry
[09:17] <James686> no error message, same as before
[09:17] <aCiD2> kbrooks, yey, thanks
[09:17] <oliwer_> sorry i had a deco
[09:17] <Nintendud> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get mplayer to play files correctly in full screen. With x11, it is not completely full screen, but in a box in the middle. I used to be able to use xv with the apt-get package, but I compiled from source for speed, and it didn't recognize xv. Any solution?
[09:17] <oliwer_> what did you said ?
[09:17] <James686> and it just brings me to the login text
[09:17] <znh> oliwer_: np, afterstep is loading
[09:17] <oliwer_> oki :)
[09:18] <znh> oliwer_: loading part is already nice
[09:18] <oliwer_> how did you do to launch it ?
[09:18] <znh> oliwer_: I typed with my keyboard buttons 'startx'
[09:18] <James686> this is really irritating, why do I get this problem and no one else?
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hda1 and hdb1 are showing the same files now >.<
[09:18] <oliwer_> but at ubuntu startup ? is gnome still by default ?
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what the hell?
[09:19] <znh> James686: I think you have a very acient/new videocard
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: did you mount the same thing twice?
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i messed with the mount point and now it's goofed up >,<
[09:19] <James686> Nvidia GeforceFX 5500
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> must have
[09:19] <znh> oliwer_: the loading part is awesome
[09:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1       /               ext3   rw,user,noauto       0	    0
[09:19] <oliwer_> hhhoooooOOOOO
[09:20] <Drakonik> Hello.
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and some how i think thats not right >.<
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you meant to put hdb1 at your root?
[09:20] <znh> oliwer_: ok pagers and such loaded
[09:20] <James686> znh?
[09:20] <Suepahfly> why can't i log to gnome with 'root' ?
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no
[09:20] <znh> yes James686
[09:20] <Drakonik> I've got a challenge for anyone who's willing to take it.
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then change it =P
[09:20] <oliwer_> good
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want it to be a storage drive
[09:20] <Drakonik> Sell me Ubuntu.
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to what?
[09:20] <James686> you got what I said?
[09:20] <Drakonik> Try to convince me to download it.
[09:20] <znh> oliwer_: It has buttons like windowmaker
[09:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed /Storage but when i mount it it won't let me wright to it
[09:21] <kbrooks> Drakonik, why?
[09:21] <oliwer_> yeah i saw scrennshots, it is dark isn't it ?
[09:21] <othernoob> Drakonik: take it or leave it :p
[09:21] <znh> oliwer_: but it's damn slow on my 120mhz laptop - not weird
[09:21] <davro> The console screens found using ctrl+alt f1 f2 * can the font size be changed on this ?
[09:21] <Drakonik> HEhee.
[09:21] <Mestapheles> Just how does one configure printers without gnome-cups-manager with a ubuntu minimal/server install if cups weinterface is locked out?
[09:21] <James686> znh: well?
[09:21] <James686> znh: can you assist me any further?
[09:21] <luzbelricota> can anyone help me to install nvu ?
[09:21] <Suepahfly> Drakonik, read the docs, look @ the site and decide for your self if you want ubuntu or not
[09:22] <znh> James686: can you give me the output of lspci ?
[09:22] <tiglionabbit> davro: I believe it is possible to pass grub different boot options, which cause it to put those consoles in a different resolution.  As for the font, dunno
[09:22] <James686> znh: whats that?
[09:22] <znh> James686: a program :)
[09:22] <Mestapheles> anyone done a server ubuntu install, then set up printers?
[09:22] <oliwer_> FOR YOU WHO IS ASKING DUMB QUESTIONS >> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:22] <James686> how do I get the output?
[09:22] <znh> oliwer_: mind reader :P
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> oliwer_: we're not supposed to support that, try linking to the wiki instead
[09:23] <oliwer_> ...
[09:23] <znh> James686: do this please 'lspci | grep Video'
[09:23] <oliwer_> hoo ok
[09:23] <kvidell> we don't typically support the ubuntuguide apparently. It's got a lot of inaccuracies in it.
[09:23] <znh> James686: No dont
[09:23] <znh> James686: do this please 'lspci | grep VGA'
[09:23] <James686> ok...
[09:23] <kvidell> and a lot of stuff that assumes the reader is smarter than not.
[09:23] <davro> tiglionabbit, that could work will have a google about that
[09:23] <oliwer_> but wiki is not as good as my link ;)
[09:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> umount it seems / is mounted multiple times please check that the disk is enterd correctly
[09:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[09:24] <anacron> hmm actually could someone help me with cd-writing softwares, instead of trying to copy those files to windows?
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> davro: someone mentions it in ubuntuforums under the customizing hoary section.  I don't think it worked for me though, =P sorry
[09:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now the bugger won't let me unmount it >.<
[09:24] <znh> oliwer_: afterstep is lovely
[09:24] <luzbelricota> wich application can give actualized information about weather in our desktops ???
[09:24] <davro> exterminate kvidell.
[09:24] <thotypous> anacron, try k3b ;)
[09:24] <znh> oliwer_: do you want to VNC on it?
[09:24] <kvidell> hehe
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you probably wont be able to unmount your / directory
[09:24] <oliwer_> znh > u make me happy
[09:24] <anacron> thotypous, i have that, but it won't work
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: would be best to edit the fstab and restart
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> bubbye guys
[09:25] <anacron> the problem is that i can't actually burn anything
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:25] <djp> is it not possible to delete items from the gnome menu?
[09:25] <oliwer_> znh > but are u sure that will be able to use kde after installing afterstep
[09:25] <anacron> it says that "you can only make image of this stuff blaa blaa"
[09:25] <luzbelricota> gdesklets ??? is for see weather ?
[09:25] <fcsmac> do I need to install any kernel patches for a g3?
[09:26] <fcsmac> or should I?
[09:26] <thp> Does ubuntu have nvidia drivers installed as standard? Or should i installed them by console?
[09:26] <znh> oliwer_: You can always switch between window managers inside gdm
[09:26] <znh> oliwer_: before you instal afterstep, do you want to try it out with vnc?
[09:26] <Suepahfly> aCiD2, yiu can rename the mounted windows drives if you login in to gnome un root, there must be an easier way but i'm a linux noob
[09:26] <anacron> thp: use apt-get :)
[09:26] <djp> thp: the free nvidia driver nv should be installed by default
[09:26] <^thehatsrule^> thp: if you mean 3d binary accelerated drivers, no
[09:26] <oliwer_> znh > nope
[09:26] <djp> thp: no 3d acceleration with nv though
[09:26] <thp> i mean 3d :)
[09:26] <oliwer_> i would like to have choice at x startup
[09:27] <thp> okay thanks then
[09:27] <kbrooks> you can remount /
[09:27] <kbrooks> but you cant do so...
[09:27] <djp> thp: apt-get nvidia-glx i think
[09:27] <znh> oliwer_: in gdm you can choose 'sessions', there you can pick a wm
[09:27] <fcsmac> I just installed the basic powerpc kernel when I first installed, are there any kernel updates for g3?
[09:27] <djp> thp: i stick to the free driver myself
[09:27] <djp> no smeg users here?
[09:27] <oliwer_> znh > damn it ! i'm noob i don't know gdm
[09:28] <oliwer_> znh > gdm is only for gnome isn't it ?
[09:28] <znh> oliwer_: not really, I have gdm and I use icewm :)
[09:28] <sam_> Can somebody help me update azureus?
[09:29] <oliwer_> znh > i'll try to install gdm
[09:29] <znh> oliwer_: it's already on your box..
[09:29] <oliwer_> i where is it ?
[09:29] <oliwer_> doesn't work in konsole
[09:29] <znh> oliwer_: gdm starts whenever you bootup the computer, it's the screen we're it asks your username and password
[09:30] <oliwer_> haaa ok
[09:30] <znh> bye
[09:30] <oliwer_> ok... i install after step and i try to stay alive ^^
[09:30] <oliwer_> bye
[09:31] <techii> what do I have to do to get python syntax highlighting in vim?
[09:31] <davro> tiglionabbit, just had a google seems its the Frame-buffer decimal codes that are needed vga=791 is about 1024 16 bit sound about right
[09:31] <ateves> hi! i have a problem with my second ubuntu installation. i installed acroread via apt-get, it shows in the menu, but i when i try to open it, nothing happens, the same when i try to open a pdf with it
[09:31] <bluefoxicy> My Hoary CDs are here!
[09:32] <James686> znh: wont work
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> I ordered like 60 but I didn't get a display box :(
[09:32] <fcsmac> is there a wesnoth port for power pc linux?
[09:32] <James686> I g2g to work help me later lol
[09:32] <luzbelricota> i downloaded nvu 1.0 pc but i cant install it
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> Meanwhile some of my coworkers want copies of Ubuntu LiveCDs and one wants an installer.
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> I was planning to hand these things out in my Unix class
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> which I was taking at the time of order :(
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok no matter what i do it won't let me wright to the drive >.<
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i must have done something wrong
[09:33] <inemo> try writing ;)
[09:33] <techii> bluefoxicy: how long did it take?
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> techii:  I ordered them in 5.04 :)
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> so it took 2 months.
[09:34] <luzbelricota> i doesnt has any configure script or anything
[09:34] <luzbelricota> what i do ?
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> I wish I could pre-order breezy.  :>
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> also, the box art sucks.
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> the CD label is just red with white or black text :(
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> Breezy's CD label should be a picture of a badger
[09:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> could it be that i'm trying to use the same mountpoint that i used when the drive was ntfs?
[09:35] <Mestapheles> sh*t that unofficial starter guide has a gapping hole.  No printer instructions for the newbie, however it is with gnome-cups-manager
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  system->administration->printers add new printer
[09:35] <Mestapheles> I know that
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> pick local, detected printer, model, and set it to do letter instead of A4 in the printer properties.
[09:36] <Mestapheles> but do you know how to add a printer without gnome?
[09:36] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  localhost:631 but that's disabled in ubuntu.
[09:36] <Mestapheles> as last time I checked the web interface was disabled
[09:36] <Mestapheles> yes
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do i have to set the drive "active"?
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to use it?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> kde should have a printer manager in the system configuration
[09:37] <luzbelricota> --> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ???
[09:37] <anacron> how can i reconfigure openssh-server ?
[09:37] <Mestapheles> so I'll have to apt-get install gnome-cups-manager onto my minimal install
[09:37] <Mestapheles> thanks
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  how are you without gnome?  Kshutubuntu?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> oh
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> you have a minimal install
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> hmm.
[09:37] <sam_> Please someone, sorry to sound so pathetic. but I've been bugged by this azureus updating problem for over a week now.
[09:37] <Mestapheles> I just want to use xfce4
[09:37] <itz> Want an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?
[09:37] <techii> MestaphelesJ: look in /etc/cups
[09:37] <djp> any gnome meny editor users here?
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  ask how to enable the web interface in some channel, heh techii may know how.
[09:37] <Mestapheles> I hardly use any gnome specific features,
[09:37] <anacron> sam_, just ignore it like i do :D
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when you partition a hard drive do you  have to set the partition "active" to use it?
[09:38] <luzbelricota> --> is any theme manager for gnome desktop ??? similar to kde-looks.org
[09:38] <techii> the config files are there, haven't used them though
[09:38] <sam_> anacron, you mean don't update it?
[09:38] <techii> art.gnome.org
[09:38] <sam_> I guess that would work. But I hate it when things don't work.
[09:38] <anacron> sam_, yeah, it just won't stop that bugging
[09:38] <techii> then there is something like "gnome-look.org"
[09:38] <dohpaz> I'm testing out Hoary LiveCD and I was curious about browsing the filesystem using Nautilus. Apparently, when I click a folder (eg. /mnt) the parent will close. The only way to go "back" is to use Open Parent under the file menu. I find this counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome. a) What is the rationale behind this? and b) how do I disable it?
[09:38] <beowu1f> anyone here running 19200x1200 resolution???
[09:38] <beowu1f> sorry
[09:39] <beowu1f> 1920x1200
[09:39] <goldfish> 1680 x 1050
[09:39] <HavoK> hi there.. there is any way to play dvds in breezy?
[09:39] <itz> Want an easy gui ftp server for ubuntu thats easy to setup... any suggestions?
[09:39] <HavoK> dohpaz: you should use gconf-editor
[09:39] <techii> dohpaz: not quite shure, atleast for spatial mode (did I spell right?)
[09:40] <Mestapheles> techii: /etc/cups ? will do
[09:40] <techii> may be hard coded
[09:40] <inemo> how do I go about installing python on hoary?
[09:40] <techii> Mestapheles: thats where the config files are for the printing system
[09:40] <techii> inemo: its preinstalled afaik
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  #gentoo may know how to reconfigure cups to allow web interface on 127.0.0.1 (yes lots of non-gentoo questions get asked there)
[09:40] <HavoK> and enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_satial
[09:40] <nightswim> inemo: sudo apt-get install python
[09:40] <Mestapheles> thanks guys
[09:40] <HavoK> and enable the flag /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial
[09:40] <gek> anyone have a gmail invite they can send me?
[09:40] <nightswim> if it isnt already there
[09:41] <Tsukasa> dohpaz, as already mentioned use the gconf-editor and navigate to / -> apps -> nautilus -> preferences and check always_use_browser
[09:41] <beowu1f> goldfish whats your horiz ref. set to..??
[09:41] <techii> but im not familiar with cups
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to see all files in consloe?
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> Mestapheles:  or #cups
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> console even
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> techii:  there's 900 people in #gentoo :)
[09:41] <Mestapheles> better yet
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> one of them has to know :D
[09:41] <anacron> hey someone? how to configure ssh server?
[09:41] <inemo> nightswim: that says its already at the latest, but when I try and run python script I get error
[09:41] <HavoK> dohpaz: if you still want to use spatial browsing do as I say, else do as Tsukasa said
[09:41] <inemo> and it runs fine on python 2.4 on my OS X
[09:41] <techii> inemo: what is the error?
[09:41] <thenuke> anacron: /etc/ssh/
[09:42] <nightswim> inemo: make sure the #!/usr/bin python on top of the file is correct
[09:42] <nightswim> ie, that it points to your python
[09:42] <techii> anacron: dont' think a ssh server is installed by default
[09:42] <dohpaz> Tsukasa, HavoK, I found it under GConf/apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial; again, it seems pretty counter-intuitive to a new user who has never used Gnome (I keep bringing this up because I'm thinking of giving Ubuntu to a friend who has been dying to try out Linux/Gnome, but doesn't know anything about it.)
[09:42] <fcsmac> haha it points to your python
[09:42] <nightswim> or do some creative symlinking
[09:42] <nightswim> or use env
[09:42] <AndyR> where is best place to put hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc ?
[09:42] <inemo> ah, and that would be where nightswim ? /etc/python ??
[09:42] <HavoK> dohpaz: ok, so you don't want spatial mode
[09:42] <techii> dohpaz: agreed
[09:42] <anacron> techii, it has been installed in this machine
[09:42] <nightswim> inemo: type "which python"
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> HavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  System->Preferences->File Managment::Behavior
[09:43] <anacron> thenuke, thanks
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> Tsukasa:  .hack?
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have tryed everything i could with my limeted knowledge of linux
[09:43] <HavoK> dohpaz: check the flag always_use_brwoser
[09:43] <HavoK> i'm useing that =)
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i still cannot wright to the damn drive >.<
[09:43] <techii> spatial mode alone is ok, but closing the parent window, becomes a problem
[09:43] <Tsukasa> bluefoxicy, aye
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm about to through it acrost the rom >.<
[09:43] <dohpaz> HavoK, no_ubuntu_spatial reverts it to the defacto spatial; meaning when I open a folder it opens that folder, without closing the parent. ^_^
[09:43] <itz> Hey plzz are there any ftp servers thats easy to setup? im used to proftp but i cant install it properly and it keeps complaining when im trying to reinstall it
[09:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> room even
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> HavoK, dohpaz, Tsukasa:  There's a flag "Always open in browser" right there you can do without running gnome's regedit app :P
[09:44] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, thank you, I did not see that option when exploring the UI.
[09:44] <HavoK> bluefoxicy: i didn't know that =)
[09:44] <Tsukasa> bluefoxicy, messing with the editor is more fun ;D
[09:44] <nightswim> can I tell gnome to allow windows to be placed higher than the top of the screen?
[09:44] <nightswim> when I drag them using alt-lmb
[09:44] <tmdca> Hi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> Tsukasa:  as is adding 'alias gregedit32.exe=gconf-editor' to ~/.bashrc
[09:44] <techii> ok, does anyone know if there is a package for python syntax highlighting for vim?
[09:44] <ateves> has anyone some experiences with kdecheckgmail under ubuntu?
[09:45] <bionic> when making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?
[09:45] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, The File Management interface doesn't have an option to revert to standard spatial, and I do not wish to use the old browsing behavior. fyi
[09:45] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz: ?  what is standard spatial?  :)
[09:45] <scope> anyone have problems with grub not loading after install?
[09:46] <nightswim> techii: /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/python.vim
[09:46] <inemo> nightswim: which python returns /usr/bin/python      i set the top of the file to #!/usr/bin/python         then it gives me the error "error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/MakeFile (No such file or directory)"       any ideas?
[09:46] <techii> bluefoxicy: the same type of window that ubuntu uses, but it keeps the parent window
[09:46] <techii> nightswin: thanks
[09:46] <scope> exit
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i create a mountpoint for hdb1?
[09:47] <scope> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mounts
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz, techii:  Oh, that's an option?
[09:47] <scope> or whatever you wanta mount it to
[09:47] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, what I mean is that by default in hoary (afiak), if you go to Places->Computer->Filesystem and click on [for example]  /mnt, it will open /mnt in a new window, and automatically close the parent window. Meaning, to go back to /, I have to go to File->Open Parent. Checking no_ubuntu_spatial in Gconf will disable this behavior, allowing me to open /mnt without closing /. Make more sense?
[09:47] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz: um, I just hit back
[09:48] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:48] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, by default there is no 'back' to hit. ^_^
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ne@FoamY:~$ sudo  mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Storage
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mount: mount point /mnt/Storage does not exist
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shane@FoamY:~$
[09:48] <bluefoxicy> dohpaz:  oh, then check that box?  :)
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what am i doin wrong here >.<
[09:49] <inemo> nightswim: any ideas?
[09:49] <Whistler> comme on ppl
[09:49] <Whistler> where i can find ubuntu packages list?
[09:49] <bimberi> Whistler: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages
[09:49] <pollicina> qualche italiano?
[09:49] <Whistler> thx
[09:49] <LED_scorched> hey all
[09:50] <dohpaz> bluefoxicy, I udnerstand I can simply disable it, but I was wondering why ubuntu by default does it, and doesn't offer an intuitive way to do it for people who _know nothing about linux or gnome_, thus making it more difficult for them to navigate without possible hours of searching. :)
[09:51] <tmdca> Hi. Where do i change the port and such settings in gnome bittorrent? o.O
[09:51] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: You need to "sudo mkdir /mnt/Storage" first
[09:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[09:51] <pollicina> anyone can help me with jre installation?
[09:52] <LED_scorched> say... linux newbie here. anyways, i got an urge to try making a server... just because.. so, would i be over my head?
[09:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bimberi it gives me the same error still
[09:52] <LED_scorched> i'v ehad a few desktops and used them til i was mostly confy with it...but still
[09:53] <ubuntu_> sup all
[09:53] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that's unusual - no typos?
[09:54] <vladuz976> does anybody here know much about shell scripts?
[09:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no no typos
[09:54] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ... such as case sensitivity
[09:54] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: k
[09:54] <zenlunatic> is there a way to get aim encryption for gaim?
[09:55] <bimberi> pollicina: See here ...
[09:55] <bimberi> !java
[09:55] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[09:55] <alex_-_> hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .
[09:55] <Seveas> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption
[09:55] <inemo> !python
[09:55] <ubotu> inemo: Are you smoking crack?
[09:55] <freddy_> hello0o0o0o0o0o0o0!!!!
[09:56] <Whistler> HiI
[09:56] <luzbelricota> hi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???
[09:56] <Whistler> :)
[09:56] <inemo> ubotu: of course
[09:56] <ubotu> inemo: Are you smoking crack?
[09:56] <inemo> dumb bot :p
[09:57] <zenlunatic> Seveas: okay i installed it so how do i start it?
[09:57] <malakhi> dohpaz: there was a pretty big debate about that when Hoary first shipped. Shuttleworth feels that it is a change for the better, and i guess it's really his call. I imagine Breezy will incorporate a way to fix it (I hope)
[09:57] <jasoncohen> firestarter doesn't appear to be working properly with UDP ports. i can't block access to webmin on UDP port 10000. i can block TCP ports like SSH fine.
[09:57] <freddy_> is a bot?
[09:57] <luzbelricota> hi downloaded 3 themes but wich file i must select in themes menu (gnome) for install it ???
[09:57] <Tatster> is there any equivalent to Redhat's up2date command line app to update a system to all latest version of installed apps?
[09:57] <freddy_> !python
[09:57] <ubotu> freddy_: I don't know
[09:57] <freddy_> lol
[09:57] <freddy_> ubotu: of course
[09:57] <ubotu> I don't know, freddy_
[09:57] <mats> !c
[09:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mats
[09:57] <alex_-_> hello world! how can i see if acpi is available? i write acpi_available, but there isn't the answer .
[09:57] <freddy_> bah...i dont get the crack thing
[09:57] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, aim encryption? you can use gaim-encryption or gaim-otr
[09:57] <Seveas> stop abusing the bot
[09:58] <Seveas> zenlunatic, check the gaim options
[09:58] <freddy_> im not raping the bot
[09:58] <inemo> freddy_: you're not special ;)
[09:58] <inemo> how do I go about installing python-dev
[09:58] <freddy_> haha
[09:58] <inemo> !rape
[09:58] <ubotu> No idea, inemo
[09:58] <mats> !ubuntu
[09:58] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntu is http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:58] <dohpaz> malakhi, I'm just thinking from the standpoint of a non-Linux/Gnome user who doesn't know what spatial is, doesn't know what upstream means, has no clue about gconf, and wouldn't think to associate the word Parent with the previous folder they were in. Being a long-time Linux/Gnome user, I easily found my way around, but beginniners would be lost in a sea of technical jargon, and feel less comfortable with an otherwise useful syste
[09:58] <dohpaz> m. :)
[09:58] <Seveas> inemo, aptitude install python2.4-dev
[09:58] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption uses RSA keys to encrypt & sign each message. gaim-otr uses a more complex system where each message is encrypted seperately with a temporal key which is then purged
[09:59] <inemo> Seveas: thanks
[09:59] <inemo> gtg go get my hair cut, brb
[09:59] <Seveas> 8<
[09:59] <dohpaz> malakhi, I look forward then to breezy, if it does give a concise option to disable this.
[09:59] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption is in hoary. gaim-otr is in breezy.
[10:00] <golgor> can anyone pls help me troubleshot my soundproblem... i dont get any sound even though i installed the drivers
[10:00] <jasoncohen> anyone else having problems with firestarter & UDP ports?
[10:00] <malakhi> dohpaz: oh, i totally agree with you. I think it was poor decision myself. Like you, i was able to fix it fairly easily, but the point is, I shouldn't have had to in the first place.
[10:00] <s1m0> hi
[10:00] <mats> thanks, Seveas :)
[10:00] <s1m0> how i can set an icon for the user when i log-in whit gdm?
[10:01] <freddy_> hehe i just used the trigger once, and i got the same punishment as someone that used it 4 times. hehe.
[10:01] <s1m0> *with
[10:01] <Seveas> s1m0, name it ~/.face
[10:01] <Seveas> (iirc, have to check)
[10:01] <freddy_> i love fairness
[10:01] <freddy_> :)
[10:01] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: i installed gaim-encryption on hoary but can't figure out how it works
[10:01] <s1m0> Seveas, thanks i try
[10:01] <dohpaz> malakhi, well I think I understand why the decision was made: to allieviate having multiple folders open (a once large complaint about how spatial works by design). But not very intuitive at all.
[10:02] <malakhi> aye
[10:02] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, it's quite easy to use, just create a key and set it to check if other users are using the plugin. that way it'll automatically be enabled if your friends are using it
[10:02] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: how?
[10:02] <dohpaz> Now, opening new folders in the existing window and having a way to move up (without reverting to browser mode) would, I feel, solve everyone's problems. ;)
[10:02] <golgor> anyone wanna help me with getting the sound to work?
[10:03] <freddy_> golgor chipset?
[10:03] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, from gaim- choose tools > preferences > and enable gaim-encryption
[10:03] <s1m0> an other question: how i can change the psw when i tape sudo?
[10:03] <golgor> freddy_, Nforce 2
[10:03] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, then choose the Gaim-Encryption option under Plugins on the left pane.
[10:03] <malakhi> dohpaz: I just saw on GNOME footnotes a preview for the new nautilus interface. It looks pretty good, and seems to address a lot of the concerns about spatial. Should be interesting when it ships
[10:03] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: there is no arrow to go to "enable gaim-encryption"
[10:04] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, arrow?
[10:04] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, just check the box next to Gaim-Encryption
[10:04] <dohpaz> malakhi, really? i don't ever remember seeing that... do you remember about when that article came out?
[10:04] <malakhi> yesterday or today.
[10:04] <Seveas> s1m0, for the photo: gdmphotosetup
[10:04] <malakhi> dohpaz: i'll try to find the link... hang on a sec
[10:04] <steve-o> !seen oliwer
[10:04] <ubotu> oliwer <~oliwer@bon31-1-82-234-80-31.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 48m 10s ago, saying: '..'.
[10:04] <Seveas> s1m0, sudo wants your password, so to change it, change your pw :)
[10:05] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: oh i didn't restart gaim
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, installing the plugin isn't enough for gaim. you need to enable the plugin so it's used. gaim-encryption will then create an RSA Key for you.
[10:05] <dohpaz> LOL, it got published after my last visit. ^_^
[10:05] <golgor> freddy_, isnt there any way to let ubuntu search for possible drivers or something
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, that would help :)
[10:05] <golgor> think i did that last time, i did some help guide which made it to work
[10:05] <s1m0> Seveas, i changed the root pasw, but now the root's psw != sudo's psw
[10:05] <malakhi> dohpaz: http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2312
[10:05] <malakhi> oh, yeah
[10:05] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, so enable the plugin and then in the plugin config screen make sure you have "broadcast encryption capability" and "automatically encrypt if buddy has plugin" enabled
[10:05] <malakhi> : )
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0, of course
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0, it never is
[10:05] <Seveas> s1m0: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:06] <s1m0> Seveas, thenks very much!
[10:06] <Seveas> on Ubuntu you need no root password
[10:06] <s1m0> Seveas, i would root :P
[10:06] <golgor> nikkia, are you there?
[10:06] <steve-o> maan , am i crazy or what?! how to delete files in terminal ?!
[10:07] <golgor> rm
[10:07] <steve-o> :)))
[10:07] <skora> steve-o, use the command rm
[10:07] <golgor> i asked that earlier today too steve-o :)
[10:07] <steve-o> i tried "rem" , del , remove , delete ..
[10:07] <steve-o> :))
[10:07] <skora> using 'man rm'
[10:07] <skora> will give more details
[10:07] <steve-o> i know , thanks
[10:07] <steve-o> :)
[10:08] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: thanks for your help
[10:08] <golgor> Seveas, do you know if there is any troubleshot built in ubuntu?
[10:08] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, np
[10:08] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: unfortunatly the encryption isn't compatible with aol im encryption for windows
[10:08] <bimberi> steve-o: Using "man -k <keyword>" can sometimes help with finding commands
[10:09] <waterl00> re
[10:09] <RichardC> where can i find a ubuntu deb package for the ati fglrx 8.14.13 xorg drivers?
[10:09] <waterl00> what is the preferred cd/dvd burning prog for you?
[10:09] <Seveas> if that isn't in linux-restricted-modules: then no where
[10:09] <Seveas> ^-- RichardC
[10:09] <Tatster> what is the best way to keep an Ubuntu box up to date with updates etc?
[10:09] <skora> i use k3b
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, i didn't know aol had encryption in AIM
[10:10] <RichardC> Seveas: i dont understand
[10:10] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: there is some third party plugin
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, if it's anything like the crap in trillian i wouldn't use it anyways
[10:10] <waterl00> i am using gnome..is there a similar to k3b for gnome?#
[10:10] <manaz> xcdroast ?
[10:10] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, trillian's "Secure IM" doesn't do any authentication so you encrypt traffic but have no assurance of who you're talking to
[10:10] <Seveas> RichardC, fglrx is in the linux-restricted-modules package and in xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:10] <bimberi> waterl00: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus
[10:10] <zenlunatic> jasoncohen: i see
[10:11] <I-IIEars> skora - If you wanted a program to make a bootable disk from a file tree what app can do that?
[10:11] <Seveas> both are needed
[10:11] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-encryption authenticates based on the RSA key and gaim-otr does the same but also provides perfect forward secrecy
[10:11] <jasoncohen> i use gaim-otr
[10:11] <skora> I-IIEars, hmm...i actually forget.
[10:12] <ateves> is anyone using ,mail-notification for his/her gmail account?
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> i am :P
[10:12] <ateves> so it works?
[10:12] <olmo> i have a problem if i log in i get an error saying "an already loaded panel was detected, execution halted". When i click ok it just appears again. It doesn't show up when i start gnome in safe modus tho. How do i get rid of it?
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> but its on windows
[10:12] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[10:12] <waterl00> is xcdroast still unstable as it was ?
[10:13] <ateves> ok, is anyone using GNOME mail-notification for his/her gmail account?
[10:13] <ateves> ^^
[10:13] <joseph> How do I give a user permissions to more files?
[10:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here good at formatting and installing new hard drives plz pm me i could really use your help
[10:13] <^thehatsrule^> try gaim?
[10:13] <Seveas> joseph, chmod
[10:13] <cmatheson> joseph, man chmod
[10:13] <^thehatsrule^> i pretty sure theres a plugin for gmail there
[10:13] <Seveas> but use with care
[10:13] <joseph> Thanks...
[10:13] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, mkfs formats them
[10:14] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, sure
[10:14] <Seveas> mount mounts them
[10:14] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, are you partitioning them or what?
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used qtparted
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and made an ext3 partition
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and formated it and commited the changes
[10:14] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, the way i see it- if you find it necessary to use encryption- you should use strong encryption with as much protection as possible- and that usually rules out the joke commercial options that are there to make people feel safe but which in actuality do little more than scramble the data
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then i made the nessisary changes to my fstab
[10:15] <pinko> I have a question on win32 codecs in avifile/aviplay.  but I can see this channel is already full of them
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it still will not let me wright to the hard drive
[10:15] <steve-o> I need help about this theme "Q: How to install Multimedia Codecs?"
[10:15] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, gaim-otr provides perfect forward secrecy and deniability as well as authentication through an RSA key and optionally through a secure ID if you're paranoid
[10:16] <steve-o> he can't find gstreamer0.8-lame , and some others codecs ;|
[10:16] <steve-o> writes
[10:16] <pollicina> anyone can help me with jre uninstallation?
[10:16] <jasoncohen> zenlunatic, the encryption is done point to point so no one but you and the person you're speaking to can decode the message and once a new message is sent it can't be retreived ever
[10:16] <steve-o> root@ubuntu:/ # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[10:16] <steve-o> Reading package lists... Done
[10:16] <steve-o> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:16] <steve-o> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[10:17] <jeroen_> steve-o, it's in multiverse
[10:17] <jeroen_> because it's patent-encumbered
[10:17] <steve-o> so , what should I do with lame encoder?
[10:17] <steve-o> :(
[10:17] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chown/chmod can help there
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas ok can you teach me how to use those commands?
[10:18] <^thehatsrule^> man chmod
[10:18] <Seveas> chown user:group file_or_dilname
[10:18] <Seveas> read the manpages, they are really helpful in this case
[10:18] <cello> hello everybody. I'm having problem with network. can anyone help me ? I've installed two ethernet interfaces. one of them give me internet conection (eth0); other (eth1) connect with a second machine. I'm trying to share the internet conection but: when i active eth1 I lost the connection with internet...
[10:19] <topyli> polliciana: how did you install?
[10:19] <ateves> oh there has to be a way to be notified about new gmail emails under gnome
[10:19] <Seveas> cello, install firestarter
[10:19] <topyli> cello: yes, firestarter is the easy way
[10:20] <I-IIEars> cello - Firestarter firewall adds a graphical interface. - it made it a lot easier for a newb like me.
[10:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i will thank you
[10:20] <olmo> i think ubuntu starts gnome-panel twice when it loads. How would i check this?
[10:20] <Seveas> olmo, ps
[10:20] <cello> just apt-get it and configure it, that's all ?
[10:20] <olmo> also, it doesn't appear to happen when i start in safe mode
[10:20] <Seveas> cello, yes
[10:21] <cello> ok, thanks guys ! you are great !
[10:21] <olmo> Seveas, the second gnome-panel doesn't start but gives an error and tries to start itself (endlessly)
[10:21] <I-IIEars> cello - it's in universe communitty supported
[10:21] <pollicina> manually
[10:21] <pollicina> pollicina downloaded jre-1-5-etc from sun and ./jre-1-etc but it causes me some troubles and i'd like to remove it
[10:21] <Seveas> olmo, odd
[10:21] <malakhi> ateves: I've used the mail-notification program. It works with gmail pretty well.
[10:21] <Seveas> use `ps f -e | less` to see who launches it
[10:22] <topyli> pollicina: it's pretty much just about removing the installation directory, probably somewhere like /usr/lib/java
[10:22] <topyli> pollicina: possibly "java" links in /usr/bin, and mozilla plugins
[10:22] <cello> I've read elsewhere that ubuntu doesn't came with a firewall. is it true ? in this case firestarter should be installed among iptables ?
[10:22] <pollicina> topyli u mean i've simply to cancel the directory?
[10:23] <topyli> pollicina: delete /usr/lib/java/jre-whatever-you-have
[10:23] <Seveas> cello, iptables is part of the kernel :)
[10:23] <Seveas> and Ubuntu of course has it
[10:23] <ateves> malakhi: yes, i installed it too, but it always tells me: bad request
[10:23] <cello> ok, sure.
[10:23] <I-IIEars> Wine "Whine" - It's asking to set font size with a registry value. A working Wine config pasted to pastebin would be really helpful...  :)
[10:24] <pollicina> are u sure topyli? no probs as under windows?
[10:24] <topyli> pollicina: no guarantees :) but that's how java installs in linux.
[10:24] <malakhi> ateves: I'm not sure what's up with that. I stopped using it a little while ago (wasn't really needed).
[10:24] <luzbelricota> can anyone told me how to ad a skin to xmms please ???
[10:24] <luzbelricota> i downloaded it
[10:24] <luzbelricota> but i dont know how install
[10:25] <goldfish> luzbelricota: what format is it in?
[10:25] <topyli> pollicina: maybe someone can confirm before you do it, or at least google
[10:25] <goldfish> luzbelricota: tar.gz ?
[10:25] <pollicina> nobody answered me except u... thanks:-)
[10:25] <daile> luzbelricota, you just need to copy the newskin folder to ~/.xmms/Skins/
[10:26] <daile> luzbelricota, new skin folder means the folder contains your new skin
[10:26] <Proteque> how do I burn with cdrecord in 2.6? not using scsi-emulation anymore I cant run -scanbus
[10:26] <topyli> pollicina: this will probably leave a link called "java" in /usr/bin. delete it too
[10:26] <topyli> it will be a dead link anyway
[10:27] <I-IIEars> ubotu are you awake?
[10:27] <ubotu> I-IIEars: I give up, what is it?
[10:33] <opirg> Hey - anyone know of a good program for creating bookmarks?
[10:34] <Seveas> firefox
[10:34] <daile> yeah a browser
[10:34] <opirg> ie.: we want an image, say 3 by 5 inches, with some text over it, and we need to place the text around the image
[10:34] <Seveas> ah ok
[10:34] <opirg> no, not web bookmarks, a paper bookmark that we want to design and print
[10:34] <Seveas> gimp perhaps
[10:34] <opirg> yeah, we are using the Gimp but it's a little difficult
[10:35] <jeroen_> yeah, gimp is way too difficult ;-)
[10:35] <brion> yay, security update for PEAR::XML_RPC has a random character causing a parse error :D
[10:36] <golgor> can anyone help me troubleshot my audio, i cant get it to work
[10:37] <daile> golgor, have you tried the instruction in the Ubuntu unofficial guide?
[10:37] <golgor> hmm?
[10:37] <daile> golgor, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[10:37] <golgor> i searched the wiki and couldnt find anything
[10:37] <Seveas> golgor wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:38] <Seveas> daile, these instructions are utter crap
[10:38] <Seveas> do NOT foolow OR advise ubuntuguide
[10:38] <Seveas> and especially that section is crap
[10:38] <cmatheson> what exactly is up w/ ubuntuguide... is it out of date, or just lame?
[10:38] <seth_k> lame
[10:38] <Seveas> just lame
[10:38] <topyli> incorrect
[10:38] <daile> Seveas, haha yeah? I didn't know that! After a bunch of tweaks, I dont' know what makes it work LOL
[10:38] <TokenBad> wow installed the firestarter firewall on here and man the windows msg spam stuff has increased alot
[10:38] <Seveas> cmatheson: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[10:38] <TokenBad> got 300 attempts on the port in an hour
[10:39] <cmatheson> Seveas, ok
[10:39] <nickw>  /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by
[10:39] <nickw> anyone know a package to fix the above error?
[10:39] <Seveas> nickw, don't use packages/binaries made for debian
[10:39] <anacron> is there a way to change utf-8 for something else in x-chat without disconnecting?
[10:39] <Seveas> anacron, no
[10:39] <golgor> ehhh Seveas, what the hell is this soundproblem hoary?
[10:40] <nickw> the program throwing that error is some custom built program I am looking at for work, no idea what it is compiled for
[10:40] <Seveas> nickw, then compile ot yourself
[10:40] <Seveas> it is built for a more recent glibc than Ubuntu has
[10:40] <golgor> i installed the drivers but it seems ubuntu cant find the device
[10:41] <Seveas> golgor, what kind of device..?
[10:41] <nickw> Seveas, I don't have source for this package. Are you saying ot build glibc from source?
[10:41] <Seveas> nickw, ouchm you cannot use the program then
[10:41] <Seveas> only on Breezy
[10:41] <nickw> ok, thanks
[10:41] <golgor> when i go to the volumecontrol is says "No volumecontrol elements and/or devices was found"
[10:41] <Seveas> maybe you can get a binary built against glibc 2.3.2
[10:42] <Seveas> golgor, what is your soundcard type? and is it pci?
[10:42] <golgor> no, integrated
[10:42] <daile> Seveas, how come you hate  ubuntuguide so much? I think it's sometimes useful though and it's updated quite often...
[10:42] <golgor> nforce 2
[10:42] <cmatheson> daile, look at the link he just gave me
[10:43] <Seveas> daile, see that url
[10:43] <Seveas> it is no guide
[10:43] <Seveas> guides give information
[10:43] <golgor> Seveas, i know last time i tested ubuntu i got the sound to work without any problem
[10:43] <Seveas> and the instructions are crap
[10:43] <Seveas> good luck updating when you follow these
[10:43] <golgor> i used some kind of guide in ubuntu which found the soundcard and everything went find
[10:43] <golgor> *fine
[10:43] <daile> Seveas, cmatheson thanks I see it now!
[10:43] <Seveas> I've spent hours in here helping people recovering from ubuntuguide created problems...
[10:44] <golgor> haha
[10:44] <cmatheson> golgor, what kind of sound card do you have?
[10:44] <golgor> cmatheson, integrated nforce2
[10:44] <daile> Seveas, cmatheson I dont usually need that ubuntuguide anyway, but I thought it's helpful.
[10:44] <golgor> and it wont work even though i installed the drivers and everyting
[10:44] <cmatheson> is that the same card that ubuntu set up for you last time?
[10:45] <cmatheson> golgor, did you turn up the volume?
[10:45] <golgor> cmatheson, i cant turn up the volume
[10:45] <golgor> it dont find any volume elements or devices
[10:45] <cmatheson> what does it say when you load the module?
[10:45] <jeroen_> golgor, upper right corner
[10:46] <golgor> ?
[10:46] <golgor> clock and date
[10:46] <golgor> only
[10:47] <golgor> damnit, this sucks
[10:48] <jeroen_> golgor, right mouse button -> add to panel
[10:48] <golgor> yea
[10:48] <golgor> and add volume control
[10:48] <golgor> nothing happens
[10:49] <golgor> the problem isnt really the volume, rather that ubuntu cant find my sound device or something...
[10:50] <cmatheson> golgor: so what does it say when you try to load the module for the nforce?
[10:50] <eruin> oooh, gnome-panel has support for "blinking" in breezy ;)
[10:51] <Seveas> eeeek
[10:51] <golgor> load module?
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin, what is blinking?
[10:51] <jasoncohen> is there a way to start firestarter without root privileges in order to see blocked connections
[10:51] <Seveas> eruin, I hope it has support for disabling that too
[10:51] <cmatheson> golgor, have you loaded the module for your sound card?
[10:51] <eruin> cmatheson, notifications when an app has news for you
[10:51] <eruin> ala WM URGENT
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin: ooooh
[10:51] <golgor> i have no idea how to do... i asked several times but no one seems to know :P
[10:51] <cmatheson> eruin: like that ghetto blue blinking when new internet windows pop up in windows?
[10:52] <golgor> i started using ubuntu yesterday, im a total newb :P
[10:52] <eruin> that gnome.org bug has been on there for years
[10:52] <Seveas> cmatheson, yes :(
[10:52] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, hold up
[10:52] <cmatheson> Seveas: arg
[10:52] <eruin> cmatheson, no, it
[10:52] <eruin> it
[10:52] <eruin> it's a tad more pretty, but in essence the same I guess
[10:52] <eruin> (and I have trouble using my new lappy keybard)
[10:53] <cmatheson> golgor: i think you need binary drivers for that nforce junk... do you have 3d acceleration working yet?
[10:54] <Deft> does anyone have any news on when breezy will be a sensible option for someone who is bored and on holiday?
[10:54] <golgor> i got the binary drivers, and installed them
[10:54] <jeroen_> Deft, now?
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, so is the 3d accel working?
[10:54] <jeroen_> you can file bugs all day! Gone is your boredom :-)
[10:54] <golgor> and no, i haven't installed any graphic drivers yet
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: oh ok
[10:54] <eruin> Deft, colony2 is out, and xorg is back to normal, so this is probably as good a time as any
[10:54] <Deft> excellent, might just give that a go then
[10:54] <cmatheson> golgor: try loading the nvaudio module (modprobe nvaudio)
[10:54] <Deft> thanks
[10:55] <jeroen_> Deft, better install it on a separate partition though, just in case
[10:55] <golgor> cmatheson, how?
[10:55] <eruin> Deft, though the 2.6.12 kernel is a mountain of trouble to me
[10:55] <Deft> jeroen_, a good idea, but I don't have enough disk for that, it's all or, most likely, nothing
[10:55] <brion_> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 <- fatal parse error in security update package
[10:55] <eruin> I have to use the old hoary kernel :/
[10:56] <jeroen_> Deft, well, :/ be warned!
[10:56] <cmatheson> golgor: type 'sudo modprobe nvaudio' at the command prompt
[10:56] <Deft> jeroen_, always am, I've already broken my install once back near the start of breezy :)
[10:56] <eruin> it
[10:57] <eruin> it's good to be back in a daily package updates state ;)
[10:57] <siorfin> question regarding a bootup issue
[10:57] <golgor> cmatheson, FATAL: nvaudio not found
[10:57] <siorfin> failsafe check failed please repair manually and reboot & unattached inode, root partition
[10:58] <siorfin> anyone know how to fix this,
[10:58] <arentie> does anyone know how to fix hibernating?
[10:58] <cmatheson> golgor: ok, you don't have the binary sound drivers
[10:59] <siorfin> i have seen fsck /target as solution but i have no clue how to login as root and use it since root use is disabled
[10:59] <cmatheson> golgor: i don't know that there is a ubuntu package... you may have to search around nvidia's website (go to the linux section and download the nforce stuff)
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, nforce2?
[11:00] <golgor> ahh, wait a sec... the binary drivers gave me an error, got a tip from nikkia to install another kind of drivers, a .run
[11:00] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: yeah
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, those work ootb, or they should
[11:00] <Burgundavia> cmatheson, no need for binary junk
[11:00] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: hmm, golgor's aren't working
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: what module is it supposed to use?
[11:01] <Burgundavia> should just work
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: and if it doesn't?
[11:01] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: do you run that chipset?
[11:01] <dnakata> hmmm
[11:01] <siorfin> so anyone know how to fix bootup issues involving the root partition, says problems basically then does a forced check then cant complete it and says to manual repair as root but i cant login as root since root is disabled, how do i fix this?
[11:01] <Burgundavia> I have 2 nforce2 boards that I have run, and both worked ootb
[11:02] <s1m0> see tou
[11:02] <cmatheson> siorfin: you could reboot in single user mode
[11:02] <s1m0> Seveas, thanks!
[11:02] <siorfin> ok how do i reboot in single user mode?
[11:02] <golgor> Burgundavia, mine wont work
[11:02] <ompaul> siorfin, if you use the 'rescue' boot option you will end up in single user mode where you can fsck -y the partitions that are not mounted
[11:02] <Burgundavia> golgor, did you do a default install?
[11:03] <cmatheson> siorfin: add 'single' to your kernel command line (or i'm guessing the "rescue" mode in the grub menu is single-user... but i'm not positive (i've never tried it before)
[11:03] <golgor> default ubuntu install yea
[11:03] <ompaul> siorfin, I usually reboot after I do a fsck - you can mount -a but to be honest I always like to check that it is all okay
[11:03] <Burgundavia> golgor, hoary I assume?
[11:03] <golgor> yep
[11:03] <Burgundavia> golgor, which board do you have?
[11:04] <golgor> a7n8x-e deluxe
[11:04] <Burgundavia> hmm
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CollapsedPreferences
[11:04] <Burgundavia> and you have no sound?
[11:05] <golgor> no sound at all
[11:05] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, there is work upstream about that as well
[11:05] <gbic> Anyone know if dd or mkisofs can make images of the _whole_ / system?
[11:05] <siorfin> ok we tried control-d to go into the grub menu and tried mount to see what /dev/hda# needed to have fcsk but it said invalid command or something
[11:05] <gbic> Im trying to make a bootable backup image of my current setup
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> gbic:  for archive purposes I recommend squashfs.
[11:06] <siorfin> i tried once before to add single to the end of the kernel line to boot into single user mode but it wouldnt save the change, how do i save the change?
[11:06] <golgor> worth a try to reinstall, Burgundavia?
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> gbic:  ah, bootable backup image heh.
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> nevermind me.
[11:06] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  who's working with them.
[11:06] <gbic> yea, thats my goal
[11:06] <gbic> but Im open to alternatives
[11:06] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, no idea
[11:07] <gbic> install is easy enough, just want to keep my existing filesystem setup
[11:07] <siorfin> cmatheson, how do i make it save the "single" command to the end of the kernel line, i tried doing this once before for something else but it wouldn't save the change upon reboot
[11:07] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  should I reopen bug 10268?
[11:08] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, email the ubuntu-devel mailing list with that wiki page
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  it was closed with recommendation that it be discussed on the ML or wiki
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> ok
[11:08] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  openning discussion != reopenning bug for future review after discussion?
[11:09] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, bugzilla is for specific stuff like "renamed tab" or "consolidate tab"
[11:09] <Burgundavia> not wholesale stuff like that
[11:09] <bimberi> siorfin: Type "e" in grub to edit the boot commands.  When finished, type "b" to boot using the edited commands
[11:10] <david> why wont it let me emerge "engage-9999" even after ive unmasked the package?
[11:10] <ilpum> I own a LG XFree mp3-player and have some problems with it under Ubuntu 5.4
[11:10] <arentie> I successfully configured my Wifi.  Now, I can't hibernate...can anyone help?
[11:10] <ompaul> siorfin, in the file  /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a value set  for 'timeout' it is the gap at the start when you need to hit a key to stop grub from the usual to get rescue values - Serious question - have you a live cd?
[11:10] <kbrooks> david: offtopic, #gentoo
[11:11] <david> kbrooks, lol sry
[11:11] <ilpum> There does not seem to be any firmware available for Linux but the memory was correctly found as "520M Removable Media"
[11:11] <kbrooks> david: maybe the package is hard masked. #gentoo
[11:11] <[|HuGO|] > hola
[11:11] <ilpum> Problem is, when I delete something, it disappears, but no memory is freed
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> Burgundavia:  sent off.
[11:12] <david> kbrooks, are u in #gentoo?
[11:12] <siorfin> ompaul, no i dont unfortunately and it wouldnt do me any good either way as my cdrom is trashed and my replacement form newegg hasnt arrived yet
[11:12] <siorfin> laptop
[11:12] <kbrooks> david: no, I was hinting you
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> david:  r u a hot grrl?
[11:12] <david> bluefoxicy, only on weekends
[11:13] <kbrooks> david: please go to #gentoo. btw, as much as i like gentoo, i dont like compiling
[11:13] <Deft> did this channel just suddenly go wrong?
[11:13] <siorfin> ompaul, getting to the bootup menu is not the problem, it is set to the default of 2seconds which is plenty of time to hit esc but last time i tried editing the kernel line adding single to the end of the line it didnt save the value, how do i save the value is the question
[11:13] <david> kbrooks, can i pm u, no one will answer me in #gentoo
[11:13] <kbrooks> david: No.
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> kbrooks:  don't do it, he'll bombard you with single letter words
[11:13] <ilpum> Is there any program which is able to format memory connected by usb?
[11:13] <ompaul> siorfin, let me test that with a quick reboot to be 100% certain I think you just type rescue at that point
[11:14] <nalioth> deft <sarcasm>and what brought that comment up?</sarcasm>
[11:14] <david> bluefoxicy, who are u
[11:14] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[11:14] <kbrooks> david: I kindly request you please join #gentoo.
[11:14] <bimberi> nalioth: :)
[11:15] <bluefoxicy> david:  Someone who didn't come from Yahoo! Instant Messenger.  You need to learn to spell 'you'.
[11:15] <david> kbrooks, im in #gentoo, but can u help me? plz
[11:15] <gotonpo> is there an "ubuntu tested hardware" list on a website somewhere?
[11:15] <gotonpo> google is failing me
[11:16] <nalioth> gotonpo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportedHardware
[11:16] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:16] <jeroen_> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[11:16] <Seveas> ah nvm, listen to Nalioth :)
[11:16] <jeroen_> maybe
[11:16] <gotonpo> thank you thank you!
[11:17] <Mez> nalioth: going back for membership tonight?>
[11:18] <dnakata> does anybody here use the xflame screensaver?
[11:19] <dnakata> if so, i have a really neat xbm you can use with it
[11:19] <ompaul> siorfin, what happens is you press escape, you are then provided with a menu, you choose recovery from that
[11:20] <_qos> i downloaded a .patch file, but i dont know how to use... can someone help me?
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, ok NOT single user mode?
[11:20] <ompaul> siorfin, it is single user mode that is returned to you
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, we chose recovery but it gives the same errors then says enter root or hit control-d
[11:20] <arentie> hibernate...why can't ubuntu hibernate?
[11:20] <siorfin> ompaul, but there is no root password in ubuntu so im stuck
[11:21] <gbic> sudo su -
[11:21] <ompaul> ahhhh
[11:21] <gbic> passwd root
[11:21] <gbic> and change
[11:21] <dsevilla> does breezy eog work?
[11:21] <dsevilla> hi all
[11:21] <ompaul> gbic, the machine is not getting far enough to allow that
[11:21] <gbic> boot in rescue mode?
[11:21] <snowblink> _qos: man patch
[11:21] <ompaul> gbic, trhere is no working cdrom with that box
[11:22] <siorfin> gbic, boot error in rescue mode, enter root password to continue or hit control-d
[11:22] <nalioth> arentie: you are not alone, most users can't hibernate their laptops
[11:22] <gbic> uhh?
[11:22] <ompaul> siorfin, I have no way of helping you with that one
[11:22] <gbic> yea, I cant hibernate mine
[11:22] <osiris> Anyone have NForce3 audio working correctly? ie: mic working
[11:22] <lotia> anyone dual booting with 2 hd's
[11:22] <lotia> primary win xp and secondary ubuntu?
[11:23] <siorfin> if i run the ubuntu install cd and type rescue once i get a working cdrom i should be able to fix it?
[11:23] <jeroen_> lotia, can be done
[11:23] <gbic> yes siorfin
[11:23] <ompaul> siorfin, yes, but you said that the CDrom was not working or at least that was my take on it
[11:23] <lotia> jeroen_: i know it can, but for some reason when i boot windows it messes up grub when grub is installed in the mbr
[11:23] <siorfin> ompaul, the replacement is on its way from newegg, it is in indiana currently
[11:24] <lotia> jeroen_: have you heard of any similar experiences
[11:24] <dsevilla> is eye of gnome (eog) working in breezy? I always get an empty window (no image)
[11:24] <ompaul> siorfin, what is its eta?
[11:24] <jeroen_> lotia, negative
[11:24] <siorfin> honestly i dont know
[11:24] <siorfin> couple days probably
[11:25] <jeroen_> will happen with reinstall, not reboot :/
[11:25] <siorfin> fedex standard shipping so who knows
[11:25] <ompaul> siorfin, do you know anyone with the same machine in your locale?
[11:25] <siorfin> nope
[11:25] <lotia> jeroen_: for some reason whenever i boot into windows, it messes up my mbr
[11:25] <lotia> anyone using the windows bootloader to boot into grub here?
[11:25] <Seveas> lotia, that would be molesting grub ;)
[11:25] <lotia> if so, could you please tell me how you did it. i am going NUTS now.
[11:26] <ompaul> siorfin, well that should be okay when you get the new one
[11:27] <nalioth> lotia: NTLDR is notorious about not wanting to deal iwth linux
[11:27] <aCiD2> im guessing its a bad idea to unmount my root partition in linux?
[11:27] <aCiD2> while im in gnome
[11:27] <nalioth> lotia: try googling "boot manager site:sourceforge.net"
[11:28] <Burgundavia> lotia, you need to do the other way around
[11:29] <vircuser> Hello
[11:31] <harold> Hello again, all
[11:31] <nalioth> harold the mac man?
[11:32] <harold> That would be me!
[11:32] <harold> How do I exit irssi?
[11:32] <goldfish>  /quit
[11:33] <harold> That easy, huh?
[11:33] <goldfish> yes
[11:33] <zukalk> harold,  /exit works too
[11:33] <lotia> Burgundavia: i've tried it, pos windows messes up grub anytime i boot it
[11:33] <Vis> hello everyone, newbie here, need installation help
[11:33] <jeroen_> woops, I tried to help harold!
[11:33] <lotia> man i really hate windows
[11:33] <Seveas> roflol :)
[11:33] <jeroen_> lotia, delete it
[11:34] <Seveas> jeroen_, fool :)
[11:34] <harold> Thanks, zukalk.
[11:34] <jeroen_> Seveas, yep :p
[11:34] <lotia> jeroen_ need it for certain apps
[11:34] <Seveas> lotia, which?
[11:34] <lotia> DVTS client
[11:34] <harold> So, I've managed to install Ubuntu...
[11:34] <lotia> conference xp
[11:34] <Seveas> hmm, I don't even know what DVTS is :)
[11:34] <Native> anyone here use an Inspiron 9300 or an HP zd8000 with Ubuntu?
[11:34] <nalioth> harold: congratulations!
[11:34] <Seveas> conference xp -> gnomemeeting
[11:35] <harold> ...I moved the kernel and initrd.img using sftp yesterday.
[11:35] <harold> noliath: thanks!
[11:35] <nalioth> harold: i hope you're not on ubuntu now
[11:35] <lotia> Seveas: not equivalent. i have to participate in already existing conferences. not like netmeeting.
[11:35] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:35] <harold> noliath: No, I'm not
[11:35] <Vis> Not sure if I'm in the right channel, but need some assistance doing an installation
[11:35] <Seveas> maybe wine runs these applications
[11:35] <harold> noliath: Why do you say that?
[11:35] <nalioth> Vis: what is the problem?
[11:35] <nalioth> harold: visual irc?
[11:35] <lotia> DVTS Is a very high resolution streaming video client
[11:35] <harold> Yes
[11:35] <Seveas> hmm
[11:36] <lotia> needs 30mpbs
[11:36] <Vis> nalioth thank you for responding
[11:36] <lotia> linux client exists, but it really sucks.
[11:36] <Seveas> ouch
[11:36] <Seveas> that's a lot of b/w
[11:36] <nalioth> Vis: the /topic says "Just Ask"
[11:36] <harold> noliath: When I attempto to boot Ubuntu, it reports that it's unable to load X
[11:36] <nalioth> lotia: do you have a high horsepower computer?
[11:36] <Seveas> harold, have you installed Breezy?
[11:36] <nalioth> harold: how much ram do you have?
[11:36] <harold> Seveas: No, Warty
[11:36] <lotia> nalioth > 2ghz
[11:36] <harold> noliath: 64
[11:37] <nalioth> lotia: would qemu be an option?
[11:37] <harold> Warty apparently needs 32, wants 64.
[11:37] <Seveas> harold, why? Hoary is more recent and X works better in it
[11:37] <nalioth> harold: have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to try to find the right way?
[11:37] <zukalk> how do i find out which port is used by Gnome Meeting?
[11:37] <harold> Seveas: I understand Hoary wants 128MB RAM.
[11:37] <lotia> nalioth: unfortunately not i must have true dual boot. also want to know whats causing the problem
[11:37] <lotia> it is driving me totally batty.
[11:37] <Vis> Doing an installation on an old PIII, starts installing, gets to 36% and stays there 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di'
[11:37] <harold> nalioth: That's just the answer I was looking for!
[11:37] <Seveas> harold, well, if you have that little memory, warty+gnome won't work either
[11:38] <nalioth> lotia: just offering wild-ass options (that might jog someones thinking)
[11:38] <inemo> so how do I install python-dev again?
[11:38] <nalioth> harold: VESA driver is your friend
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, it's xserver-xfree86 on warty
[11:38] <sjoerd> zukalk: the gnomemeeting faq has a lot of info about that
[11:38] <Seveas> not sxerver-xorg
[11:38] <harold> Seveas: What would work?
[11:38] <zukalk> sjoerd, thanks
[11:38] <harold> nalioth: What is VESA driver?
[11:38] <inemo> nalioth: whats the best VNC server again? the built in one I can't connect to..
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, hoary+xfce
[11:38] <sjoerd> susus: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
[11:38] <nalioth> harold: did you end up with hoary or warty?
[11:38] <lotia> have been attempting to fix it for a week or so and LOVE ubuntu. but have never run into something this annoying.
[11:38] <harold> Seveas: Thank you
[11:38] <Seveas> harold, install hoary with server optioan and install xfce of fluxbox on top
[11:38] <harold> Nalitoth: Warty
[11:38] <lotia> and i'm a reasonably experienced linux user
[11:39] <arentie> unregister_netdevice:waiting for wlan0 to become free. Usage Count = 1
[11:39] <nalioth> most video cards manufactured in teh last 4 years are VESA compliant, meaning the vesa driver will get them going
[11:39] <harold> nalioth: I went with Warty since the RAM requirments appeared to be lower
[11:39] <arentie> does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:39] <nalioth> harold: any reason why not hoary?
[11:39] <Seveas> harold, it actually is the other way around
[11:39] <inemo> so how do I install python-dev again?
[11:39] <Seveas> because for hoary there is XFCE and flubbox
[11:39] <nalioth> harold: like seveas said, you can upgrade to hoary, and run fluxbox or xfce instead of gnome
[11:39] <harold> nalioth: I wasn't certain about the RAM req's, so I went with Warty (which I was certain of)
[11:40] <Seveas> aptitude install python2.4-dev
[11:40] <harold> Seveas: I do have Hoary downloaded...
[11:40] <inemo> thanks Seveas
[11:40] <harold> ...and burned
[11:40] <nalioth> Seveas: is that a fat DM?
[11:40] <inemo> Seveas: run as sudo?
[11:40] <Seveas> inemo, of course :)
[11:40] <nalioth> harold: it's easier to just change your sources and update
[11:40] <inemo> thought it might be
[11:40] <harold> nalioth: I've been reading alot about xfce in the forums this past week or so.
[11:40] <Seveas> nalioth, xfce is moderately fat, fluxbox is thin
[11:40] <harold> nalioth: I'm not afraid to try it (sfce)
[11:41] <hosler> doesnt 'make clean' deinstall the application i installed from souce?
[11:41] <cmatheson> nalioth: i like openbox, it does everything gnome does w/out wasting my ram
[11:41] <harold> Seveas: So fluxbox would be better for 64MB RAM?
[11:41] <hosler> source*
[11:41] <Seveas> hosler, no
[11:41] <Seveas> harold, yes
[11:41] <hosler> Seveas, what is the command to desintall?
[11:41] <cmatheson> hosler: make uninstall
[11:41] <Seveas> hosler, there is none
[11:41] <Seveas> that's why you should have used checkinstall...
[11:42] <nalioth> cmatheson: harold is the one iwth the old-world powerbook
[11:42] <harold> noliath: I'll probably be getting more RAM soon; I picked up some on eBay but the RAM (supposed to be 256) is 128.
[11:42] <cmatheson> nalioth: sorry
[11:42] <cmatheson> harold: i'm running openbox on my laptop w/ 128M, it runs great (even w/ firefox going w/ a bunch of tabs open)
[11:42] <nalioth> harold: everything in its time, i'm amazed ya got the old thang workin
[11:43] <harold> Well, it appears to be...
[11:43] <harold> ...when it boots, however...
[11:43] <cmatheson> harold: just install/run 'docker' so that you can get the system-tray stuff from gnome
[11:43] <harold> ...it stops when attempting to configure X
[11:44] <harold> cmatheson: I currently only have 64MB RAM.
[11:44] <nalioth> harold: running the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will help you solve that
[11:44] <harold> nalioth: I'm definitely about to do that (plugging in laptop's ethernet)
[11:45] <cmatheson> harold: shouldn't be a big deal (it's obviously going to be slower than a modern computer, but if you run slimmer applications (stay the crap away from the gnome desktop and nautilus), then you'll get by just fine
[11:45] <Gotti> hullo
[11:45] <Seveas> hi
[11:45] <jeroen_> hello
[11:45] <harold> What is the proper shutdown command?
[11:46] <harold> cmatheson: Gotcha
[11:46] <Seveas> shutdown :)
[11:46] <jeroen_> sudo shutdown
[11:46] <cmatheson> harold: shudtown -h now
[11:46] <harold> jeroen: Thank you
[11:46] <jeroen_> man shutdown for info
[11:46] <Seveas> shud town.... hm, is that next to meta city?
[11:46] <Seveas> ;)
[11:46] <cmatheson> haha
[11:46] <Gotti> woooow lol
[11:46] <harold> It's says the system is going to explode NOW!
[11:46] <jeroen_> yep, that's right
[11:47] <nalioth> harold: no, that would be a windows shutdown
[11:47] <harold> jeroen, LOL
[11:47] <cmatheson> harold: don't worry, new hard-drives are cheap these days ;)
[11:47] <harold> cmatheson: I picked up this PowerBook at Goodwill; I hope I don't have to spend too much more
[11:47] <jeroen_> harold, the system is quite inexperienced with these things like 'shutdown'
[11:48] <nalioth> harold: jeroen_ is correct, linux is designed to only be shutdown once a year or so
[11:48] <cmatheson> harold: haha, you're computer's going to be fine
[11:48] <harold> BRB, everyone
[11:48] <nalioth> arentie: Industrial Light & Magic had a linux router running for over 7 years w/o shutting down
[11:48] <Seveas> nalioth, I call that bad security practice
[11:48] <harold> Yes, but what about laptops?  PowerBooks?  They can't sleep forever, can they?
[11:49] <Gotti> its kinda impossible not to shutdown if you have a dual boot sytem tho...
[11:49] <nalioth> bloody hell i hate autocomplete
[11:49] <jeroen_> Seveas, breaking records *is* dangerous, Seveas
[11:49] <nalioth> Seveas: it wasnt connected to the outside, it was internal
[11:49] <Seveas> nalioth, ah ok
[11:49] <Seveas> but still :)
[11:49] <Seveas> uptime is a much over-esteemed statistic
[11:49] <nalioth> harold: sleep as long as they have a trickle of power
[11:49] <harold> Are ethernet cables supposed to be hooked up when the computer is down or asleep?
[11:49] <Seveas> My server never has an uptime of > 2 months
[11:50] <Vis> Installation hangs at 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di', can anyone help with this
[11:50] <hodgman> alright, I'm trying to change my screen resolution on my desktop, eventhough I have 1600x1280 set in my xorg.conf I can't see the option in the drop down in under settings> preferences> screen resolution
[11:50] <nalioth> harold: depends on the OS
[11:50] <jeroen_> harold, doesn't matter
[11:50] <harold> I've always thought ethernet should be plugged in when the computer is off; at least that's the case with SCSI.
[11:50] <Gotti> who is peer, and why is he resetting my connection?!
[11:50] <nalioth> harold: on OSX, it doesnt matter, and i'm not sure on linux, and if ya plug in with windows sleepin, it'll freak the hell out when it wakes up
[11:51] <harold> So it sounds like Windows actually *wants* to be awake when you plug that cable in.
[11:51] <nalioth> hodgman: running hoary?
[11:51] <hodgman> nalioth: yeah
[11:51] <nalioth> harold: not really
[11:51] <nalioth> harold: if the ethernet isnt present when windows boots up, you have to restart for it to 'see' it
[11:51] <harold> nalioth: Are you on a portable?
[11:51] <nalioth> hodgman: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal
[11:51] <dualBhelp> hey all
[11:52] <hodgman> nalioth: will do
[11:52] <hosler> I get 'FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).' when i try to play a dvd in mplayer installed with Synaptic
[11:52] <nalioth> harold: atm, portables are all i own
[11:52] <Gotti> O_O
[11:52] <harold> BRB
[11:52] <nalioth> hosler: ya got your restricted packages installed?
[11:52] <hosler> nalioth: how do i check?
[11:52] <Gotti> wooo finally got this god-forsaken broadcom chip working
[11:53] <Vis> Installation stalls on 'Retrieving nic-firmware-2.6.8.1-3-386-di'. Any Ideas??
[11:53] <hosler> nalioth: synamptic says i have linux-restricted-modules-386 installed
[11:53] <nalioth> hosler: have you added universe and multiverse to your repositorys?
[11:53] <hosler> nalioth: i have no idea
[11:53] <nalioth> hosler: ok then
[11:54] <nalioths_dog> hosler: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:54] <nalioths_dog> hosler: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:54] <harold> Can power outages screw up your system?
[11:54] <jeroen_> harold, possibly, but the risk isn't that high
[11:54] <cmatheson> harold: not really, journalled file-systems tend to take care of things these days
[11:54] <ttr> does anyone know the name of a unbunto directly installed which a a plane game controlled by the mouse ??
[11:54] <nalioth> harold: yes
[11:54] <dualBhelp> if i from a live cd, in this case sysresccd I run grub --config-file=/whereicopyedit to on the live sestion/menu.lst --no-floppy
[11:54] <harold> Linux isn't a journalled filesystem, is it?
[11:55] <nalioth> ttr: xplane?
[11:55] <dualBhelp> how do i get my boot infomation once grub goes/>
[11:55] <jeroen_> linux isn't a filesystem
[11:55] <keikoz> not linux
[11:55] <dualBhelp> ?
[11:55] <cmatheson> harold: it isn't a journalled filesystem, but there are many journalled filesystems avaliable for linux
[11:55] <keikoz> ext3, one of the filesystems used
[11:55] <hosler> nalioth: it worked when i just downloaded the source and compiled, but i had no sound then. So i decided to uninstall it and use the synaptic version.
[11:55] <jeroen_> ext3 is one of the most-used
[11:55] <harold> ext3 is journalled, keikoz?
[11:55] <ttr> nalioth: maybe i'll search for this one on google thx
[11:55] <keikoz> yes
[11:55] <cmatheson> as is reiserfs, xfs, jfs, etc.
[11:55] <flodine> anyone use teamspeak here mime wont open
[11:55] <harold> keikoz: Good news.
[11:55] <nalioth> hosler: this is not about the file you just told me about
[11:55] <harold> Since I just had two power outages today.
[11:55] <nalioth> hosler: read the URLs my dog sent you
[11:56] <dualBhelp> im basically trying to use grub strate off the cd to boot into ubuntu
[11:56] <dualBhelp> anybody?
[11:56] <dualBhelp> is this possebla?
[11:56] <keikoz> that didnt empeached my motherboard to die ^^
[11:56] <nalioth> dualBhelp: only to boot into the liveCD
[11:57] <madmavric> anybody have problems connecting to shoutcast servers with xmms in here?
[11:57] <jeroen_> madmavric, nope
[11:57] <dualBhelp> nalioth oh so i cant get grub to boot ubnutu with syscd?
[11:57] <jeroen_> not with beep-media-player which is mostly the same
[11:57] <nalioth> dualBhelp: syscd?
[11:57] <madmavric> i can play mp3 format, but for some reason the only internet radio stations i can connect to are ogg format
[11:57] <Seveas> !seen elmo
[11:57] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'elmo', Seveas
[11:57] <Vis> nalioth: any thoughts on my problem?
[11:58] <dualBhelp> nalioth sysresccd.org
[11:58] <dualBhelp> its a live cd
[11:58] <madmavric> everything was working fine yesterday
[11:58] <nalioth> Vis: install from source, using apt
[11:58] <ttr> nalioth: i don't think it's this one . it's more an arcade game
[11:58] <nalioth> Vis: commands are (in a terminal)
[11:58] <dualBhelp> nalioth with lots of resscue tools
[11:58] <omegadc> hello folks
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[11:59] <madmavric> somehow i must have broken xmms
[11:59] <madmavric> perhaps when i installed audacity
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"
[11:59] <omegadc> how do i upgrade gaim?
[11:59] <nalioth> Vis: when complete, "sudo dpkg -i <pkgname.deb>"
[12:00] <nalioth> dualBhelp: i've never heard of it, if you want to fix your grub, check this outhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows