[06:02] <fabbione> morning
[09:52] <chmj> morning 
[01:36] <zul> heylo...
[01:36] <zul> im offically un-employed again ;)
[01:37] <fabbione> ehhe
[01:37] <chmj> hmmm ?
[01:37] <fabbione> zul: congratulation
[01:37] <zul> thanks :)
[01:38] <zul> ....and i have accepted the position
[01:39] <fabbione> ehhe
[01:40] <zul> chmj: i recently started a new job and got an offer and accepted it for a higher paying job somewhere else...hence im un-employed again 
[01:41] <zul> in theory
[01:42] <chmj> oh I see 
[01:42] <zul> fun isnt it
[01:42] <chmj> zul: in that case congratulations !
[01:42] <zul> thanks :)
[01:43] <fabbione> zul: when you start at the new place?
[01:43] <zul> monday
[01:43] <zul> ...long weekend for me ;)
[01:43] <zul> but i have another doctor's appointment tomorrow
[01:43] <fabbione> ehhe
[01:51] <zul> world domination is mine....ahahaha
[02:54] <zul> hey jeffarino
[02:56] <jbailey> Heya Chuck!
[02:57] <zul> how goes it?
[03:00] <jbailey> Good.  The place still looks like it was hit by a bomb. =)
[03:00] <jbailey> Plugged in the IP phone a couple minutes ago, so we have phone service again.
[03:00] <jbailey> Can't find the wireless router, so I'm limited to one computer at a time (it's also my switch)
[04:34] <fabbione> hey jeff
[04:34] <fabbione> fix glibc double simbols for sparc otherwise i can't compile gnome. kthxbye :)
[04:35] <fabbione> oh he is not here
[04:35] <fabbione> crap
[04:45] <fabbione> hey jeff
[04:45] <fabbione> fix glibc double simbols for sparc otherwise i can't compile gnome. kthxbye :)
[04:47] <doko> fabbione: the unionfs ice tarball lacks the .i file and the command line used to compile
[04:47] <jbailey> double symbols?
[04:47] <jbailey> AKA, bugzilla #?
[04:47] <jbailey> or other text of error?
[04:47] <fabbione> doko: i told you before.. there was no .i
[04:47] <fabbione> doko: and the log is in the tarball
[04:48] <fabbione> jbailey: i did send you an email
[04:48] <doko> hmm
[04:48] <fabbione> according to doko it's a symbol exported twice in glibc
[04:48] <fabbione> doko: let me check again the build dir
[04:48] <fabbione> i didn't trash it
[04:48] <fabbione> but the command line is there
[04:49] <jbailey> Eh?  HTF did you wind up with two PLTs?
[04:50] <jbailey> And why can you compile anything else?
[04:50] <fabbione> jbailey: dunno...
[04:50] <fabbione> me idea has none
[04:51] <fabbione> doko:
[04:51] <fabbione> find . -name "*.i"
[04:51] <fabbione> ./null.i
[04:51] <fabbione> ./asm-offsets.i
[04:51] <fabbione> that's all
[05:02] <doko> ugly
[05:09] <fabbione> doko: i can try to rerun... 
[05:09] <fabbione> no idea why..
[05:09] <fabbione> did you find the build log in there?
[05:11] <jbailey> Oy, Fabio.  Is 2.6.12 the default now?
[05:11] <fabbione> jbailey: yes
[05:11] <ogra> jbailey, bah, you are far behind
[05:11] <fabbione> since a while
[05:11] <ivoks> hi
[05:11] <ivoks> we have a nasty bug
[05:11] <jbailey> ogra: This is my first working day in the past 5 or 6 =)
[05:11] <fabbione> doko: ok.. cleaned all *.i and *.s
[05:11] <fabbione> ivoks: bugzilla please
[05:12] <ivoks> fabbione: i did
[05:12] <fabbione> we only discuss development here
[05:12] <doko> I'm away now, back at 22:00 UTC
[05:12] <fabbione> ivoks: than it will be processed with all the other
[05:12] <fabbione> s
[05:12] <fabbione> doko: just ONE sec..
[05:12] <ogra> jbailey, you didnt use a wlan equipped moving van ? tsk
[05:12] <fabbione> it doesn't take long
[05:12] <ivoks>  Opened: 2005-04-17
[05:12] <ivoks> and it's dos
[05:12] <ivoks> by user
[05:12] <jbailey> ogra: No, and sadly, I can't find my WAP either.  Buried in a box somewhere.
[05:13] <ogra> meh
[05:13] <ogra> moving is odd
[05:13] <fabbione> doko: i confirm.. there is NO .i
[05:14] <fabbione> ivoks: bug number+
[05:14] <ivoks> 9830
[05:15] <ivoks> it seems it is a kernel bug, despite my comment
[05:16] <ivoks> or isn't :)
[05:16] <ivoks> confused :)
[05:16] <fabbione> it's not a kernel bug.. there is even an extra reference to the debian bts
[05:17] <ivoks> did you read it?
[05:17] <ivoks> i referenced
[05:17] <ivoks> The kernels 2.4.28+ and 2.6.9+ with IPv4 and ATM-CLIP enabled have bugs
[05:17] <fabbione> it's not a kernel bug....
[05:17] <ivoks> ok
[05:17] <fabbione> you cannot run these commands as user
[05:17] <fabbione> and if the userland is fool enough NOT to do the proper uid checks.. well...
[05:17] <ivoks> you can
[05:18] <fabbione> ain't a kernel problem ;)
[05:18] <ivoks> i agree
[05:18] <fabbione> no you can't
[05:18] <fabbione> 'ip addr flush dev eth0' enters an endless loop
[05:18] <fabbione> this is an admin command
[05:18] <ivoks> yes
[05:18] <fabbione> you need sudo
[05:18] <ogra> fabbione, you cann, they just dont do what they should
[05:18] <ivoks> sorry, it isn't a kernel bug
[05:18] <ogra> (i.e. failing gracefully)
[05:18] <fabbione> ogra: exactly.. it's a non command if you are not root
[05:18] <ivoks> but it is a bug, nasy one...
[05:19] <fabbione> and if it fails in a loop.. it's a bug
[05:19] <fabbione> definetely not in the kernel
[05:19] <ogra> ivoks, its just wrong exectutable rights ;) 
[05:19] <ivoks> in breezy there is no bug
[05:19] <fabbione> ivoks: ip has been updated in breezy iirc
[05:19] <ivoks> i know
[05:19] <ivoks> that's why there isn't a bug :)
[05:20] <ivoks> ok, my comment was right on bug, it isn't a kernel bug... sorry for bringing alarm to this channel :)
[05:21] <ogra> ivoks, now that you are here, fix some kernel bugs ;) 
[05:23] <ivoks> :))
[05:24] <ivoks> i have exam tomorrow
[05:24] <ivoks> i should be looking at notes and books :)
[05:24] <ogra> so fixing kernel bugs is a good excus then *g*
[05:25] <ivoks> well, profesor uses linux :)
[05:25] <ogra> you see :)
[05:25] <ivoks> if i tell him i spent all my time fixing linux, maybe i'll pass :)
[05:26] <ivoks> sorry... this class is very important, human lives depend on it, no passing here if you aren't brilliant :/
[05:27] <ivoks> next wed i'll work all time on bugs
[08:22] <jbailey> Dammit, no fridge in hand.
[08:22] <jbailey> It took 2 hours to return the u-haul.
[08:27] <lamont> ew
[10:08] <jbailey> The new udev wants a kernel >2.6.10.  How do we force kernel upgrades to go first?
[10:08] <jbailey> I could use preinst love...
[10:08] <jbailey> Not a terribly good test, but it's worked so far for glibc.
[10:49] <jbailey> Feh.  Can we just make a generic "linux" package, which is the minimum guarnateed version to be on the system?
[10:49] <jbailey> It can be from the same family as linux-power* and depend on a sane working one for a given arch.
[10:50] <jbailey> If the user happens to replace it and point his bootloader to something else, then fine, but we don't support them in those cases anyway.