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qos_i need 2 packages for a patch file, can somebody tell where to get them? http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-May/045424.html12:00
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Visnalioth: Cool. Thanks. Will give it a shot.12:00
naliothVis: your deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list must be enabled (uncommented)12:00
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omegadchow do i upgrade gaim?12:01
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jeroen_omegadc, backports or Breezy12:01
thenukeqos_: what two packages you do need for that patch :O12:01
dualBhelpnalioth: so i can use grub off a live cd like i mean ill have to install it to the hddrive then boot off the hdrive like in that website?12:01
dualBhelpcan't12:01
omegadchum...12:01
omegadcok then12:01
omegadctks12:01
thenukeqos_: the patch is in the url you gave12:01
qos_look at the patch file ... i think i need 2 ... do i?12:01
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haroldnoliath and Seveas: I just wanted to verfiy that dpkg command for fixing X in Warty; what was it?12:01
naliothdualBhelp:  you'll use the live cd to get into a linux environment12:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis hard drive is ticking me off >.<12:02
thenukeqos_: no I dont feel like looking into it. sorry.12:02
cmathesonharold: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?12:02
naliothdualBhelp: then switch environments to the one on your system now12:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can't figure out how to get the damn thig to work12:02
thenukeqos_: if you cant tell us what you need..12:02
haroldThanks, cmatheson12:02
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josephSo how can I check my passwork for a user account I created a long time ago? I created an account for asterisk, but have no idea the password. Any help?12:03
cmathesonjoseph: just change it12:03
josephYeah, but there are programs that I think use it.12:04
seth_kyep, just use sudo passwd and change it12:04
goldfishjoseph: crack it.12:04
qos_i want to patch vncviewer ... so i downloaded the patch. but, i have to patch the sources ... i downloaded the sources. but the patch failed, and it seems that the patch needs 2 source packeges. 1 of the original vnc 3.3.7 and one of ultravnc 3.3.712:04
josephWhy would I have to crack it... if I am root, there is no way to check passwords?12:04
goldfishnope12:04
josephAh... ok.12:04
josephThen I should change it...12:05
goldfishyes or crack it...12:05
qos_so, please only look at the 1st 3 lines... and correct me if i am wrong.12:05
dualBhelpnalioth: when u say "then switch environments to the one on your system now" i would like to do this with out installing grub is this possible?12:06
naliothdualBhelp: surely, its in that wiki article. just don't install grub12:06
haroldnoliath: It's reporting that xserver-xfree86 is not installed.  Is this the right one for Warty?12:06
dualBhelpnalioth: oh really i'll have another look sorry12:06
naliothdualBhelp: you might wish to open a terminal and look at "man chroot" and/or google it12:06
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dualBhelpnalioth: ah I thought was just talking about chmod12:07
haroldnalioth: what do I change the sources.list to to install Hoary?12:07
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dualBhelpthinks to learn12:07
nalioths_dogharold: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:08
nalioths_dogharold: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:08
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haroldnalioth: Tank you (again)12:08
syndam installing Ubuntu on a seperate IDE drive (slave, master drive has XP) and got to the part where i take the CD out and reboot. Grub loads up and gets an Error 21. Any ideas??12:08
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dfghdfgdfdoes ubuntu 5.04 work on inspiron 6000?12:09
lifelessit should12:09
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haroldnalioth: So that's it?  I just change the sources and apt-get update and upgrade?12:10
syndharold, yes12:10
qos_i there nobody who can help me with this patch? http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-May/045424.html12:10
MrJanglesis there anyone here with experience with it on a dell inspiron 6000?12:10
syndAnyone have any ideas?12:10
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abbe80I have a file which I chmod to 744, but still other users cannot open the file and write to it...12:10
seth_kdfghdfgdf, i'm running a 600m, which has a lot of the same hardware12:10
MrJanglesno intallation problems?12:10
inemoSeveas: the python script still won't run12:10
goldfishabbe80: thats not the correct permissions for everyone to read/write12:11
abbe80-rwxrwxrwx  1 root root  463 Jul  6 01:22  <-- other users cannot write to it12:11
seth_kMrJangles, none. everything works as expected, even bluetooth, wireless12:11
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goldfishabbe80: what is the file?12:11
MrJanglesexcellent, thanks :) i'll keep you updated12:11
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inemostill says invalid python installation12:11
abbe80goldfish, it is a .java file12:11
goldfishhmmm12:12
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goldfishabbe80: what folder is it in?12:12
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goldfishabbe80: they might not have rights onthe directory.12:12
moparfan90im trying to burn a .ISO of ubuntu and need help. i am using sonic record now and dont know how to make burn so its bootable. any know12:12
haroldnalioth: It's fairly easy for me to change the sources list.  I'd like to try something else first.12:12
naliothharold: yes, update your sources.list, "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"12:12
hoslerHow do I make dvds play smoother is xine? They are a bit skippy.12:12
abbe80goldfish,   /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/WEB-INF/classes12:12
goldfishhosler: is dma on?12:12
haroldnalioth: I'm going to try using that wirelss card.12:13
hoslergoldfish: where do i check?12:13
goldfishhosler: that means no so :)12:13
goldfishhosler: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc12:13
goldfishabbe80: what are the permissions on that directory?12:13
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atevescan't wine simulate winxp?12:14
moparfan90v12:14
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moparfan90help me12:14
abbe80goldfish, drwxr--r-- , but since the file in that folder has other permission shouldn't it work ?12:14
moparfan90im trying to burn a .ISO of ubuntu and need help. i am using sonic record now and dont know how to make burn so its bootable. any know12:14
goldfishabbe80: yes.12:14
goldfishabbe80: you need read and write permission on the directory too.12:15
hoslergoldfish: it got smoother but every 3 seconds my computer kinda skips12:15
abbe80ahh ok12:15
dnakataateves: i just run xp on a partition12:15
goldfishhosler: what are your specs?12:15
abbe80I will try that. Thanks :-)12:15
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moparfan90im trying to burn a .ISO of ubuntu and need help. i am using sonic record now and dont know how to make burn so its bootable. any know12:16
atevesi cannot install applicatiosn via wine that require winxp12:16
hosler2 ghz pentium 412:16
haroldateves: Which application?  Not all will work perfectly with win.12:16
haroldWith wine, that is12:16
hoslerintel 810 graphics12:16
atevesharold: in fact it is the gmail notifier12:16
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hosler512 mb ram12:16
atevesbecause no linux alternives work12:16
atevesalternatives12:17
ateves^^12:17
haroldateves: I haven't even used Gmail notifier on Windows12:17
dnakataand qemu it12:17
dnakatabetter emulation than wine, imho.12:17
moparfan90how do you burn an .ISO image on sonic record now? anyone know? please help12:17
haroldateves: You never know, though, it may work on wine.12:17
atevesyeah, but i like notifier apps12:17
atevesso no X related apps work12:17
haroldateves: Wine is far from perfect.  I've had some surprising success with it, but also some miserable failures.12:18
atevesharold: do i not have to configure it? after installing i can only access it via the "wine" command in the console12:18
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haroldateves: Though I haven't used Wine in awhile (nor Linux), I recall that you should be able to install shortcuts to Windows apps on your Linux desktop.12:19
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haroldateves: I was using Xandros, so I'm not certain how it works with Ubuntu.12:20
seth_kateves, the shortcut would be "wine /path/to/windows/executable.exe"12:20
seth_kateves, that will launch wine automatically for that program12:20
haroldEveryone: I can't wait to get Ubuntu going (with a GUI and all)!12:20
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haroldAnyone know how I can test a wireless card with my new Ubuntu install?12:21
haroldFrom the console, that is?12:21
thenukeharold: with ping perhaps12:21
seth_kharold, first run iwconfig and see if it even appears12:21
thenukeharold: or with links or lynx12:22
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haroldthenuke and seth_k: Thanks12:22
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haroldnoliath: Here's an update: I haven't changed sources yet, but I ran an apt-get update and then an apt-get upgrade.  It's currently upgrading Warty.  I'm keeping Warty for a little while to test my wireless adapter.12:23
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haroldnoliath and Seveas: I will certainly take your advice and upgrade to Hoary later. (and add fluxbox)12:23
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vladuz976hi can someone help me. i want to use ubuntu, but i tried it and the screen resolution is really low, can can't change it. i tried the live cd same thing12:25
goldfishvladuz976: got an nvidia card?12:26
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vladuz976goldfish, yes12:26
goldfishvladuz976: get the nvidia drivers or do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and pick the vesa drivers12:26
haroldgoldfish: Would you want to pick the VESA drivers if you're using an old Apple PowerBook?12:27
vladuz976nvidia drivers available with apt?12:27
lsuactiafner!fixresolution12:27
ubotulsuactiafner: No idea12:27
lsuactiafner!resolution12:28
ubotuit has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:28
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lsuactiafnervladuz976 : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto also, apt-cache search nvidia12:28
goldfishharold: dunno, worth a try.12:28
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chibifsCtrl+Alt+PgUp/PgDown? :P12:28
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sara_pooI have to install DB2, and I don't feel like installing red hat or suse.  But I have a but load of RPM's to deal with.12:28
sara_pooany suggestions?12:29
haroldubotu: Thank you12:29
ubotumy pleasure, harold12:29
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haroldgoldfish: Thanks12:29
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vladuz976i tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto running it againlast time and no changes12:29
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haroldThis is a radical way to getting/giving support12:30
josephanyone know how to figure out what user is running my .php files?12:30
josephI have .php scripts that run, but I don't know what user they run as.12:30
josephSo I get permission errors.12:31
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josephLike: Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/custom (errno=13 - Permission denied) in /var/www/admin/ivr_action.php on line 9612:31
haroldIs anyone who develops Ubuntu actually in this channel?12:31
josephSometimes they are in here.12:32
haroldAll volunteers here?12:32
josephI guess...12:32
Quest-Masterharold: #ubuntu-dev12:32
haroldThank you, Quest-Master12:33
poningrudude thats not the channel12:33
lsuactiafnerjoseph : ps aux | grep -i php12:33
Quest-Masterponingru what.12:33
josephok12:34
poningruQuest-Master: care to join that channel?12:34
lsuactiafneroh joseph : look into chown and chmod and user nobody12:34
Quest-Masterwhat the.12:34
josephI get root     12166  0.0  0.6   3032   748 pts/0    S+   15:34   0:00 grep -i php12:34
lsuactiafnerharold : only volunteers12:34
poningruexactly12:34
lsuactiafneryeh joseph misunderstood, look into chown and chmod and user nobody12:34
josephUser nobody? I need it to be user asterisk...12:35
lsuactiafnerhowever if you change things with www servers make sure you know what you are doin12:35
poningruits #ubuntu-devel12:35
Quest-MasterAh12:35
haroldI was way-laid!12:35
Quest-MasterMy bad.12:35
poningrulaaaaaiiiiiiiid12:35
haroldI was sent down a blind alley12:35
josephlol ls, I don't have a clue what I am doing... ergo, I am here... hehe12:35
Quest-MasterSorry! :x12:35
lsuactiafnerno you cant have user * as far as i know12:35
josephyes, but I want my .php to run as user asterisk.12:35
josephto get the correct permissions.12:35
haroldThat's okay12:35
haroldI like it here fine, anyway12:36
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webcosimohelp ubuntu12:37
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lsuactiafnerjoseph : chmod a+x *php but i think that is dangerous12:37
josephSo how do I get my .php stuff to run as user asterisk12:37
qos_can somebody take a look at my compiler error? http://phpfi.com/68491 i think there are missing some source files ...12:38
lsuactiafnerjoseph : i really recommened getting a second opinion from someone who knows more about php and webservers12:38
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The_Flyestcan someone help me how to make this soundcard "Intel 82801FB ICH6 - High Definition Audio Controller [B-1] " work in ubuntu?12:38
josephlsuactia, Agreed, anyone around here that is?12:38
lauramy flashplayer plugin isn't playing sound12:38
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lsuactiafnerThe_Flyest : intel shoudl work, brandname12:39
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lsuactiafner!supported12:39
ubotulsuactiafner: I don't know, could you explain it?12:39
The_Flyestwhen i open a musicfile, i get error: ALSA device "default" does not exist12:39
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lsuactiafner!hardware12:40
ubotuWish i knew, lsuactiafner12:40
leitao_any good tutorial about recording cd in ubuntu?12:40
lsuactiafnerhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport12:40
lsuactiafnerbleh12:40
lsuactiafnerThe_Flyest : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport12:41
lsuactiafnerand12:41
lsuactiafnerubuntu should have alsaconf but it doesnt..12:41
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Razor-Xwhat text editor do you use, people?12:41
Razor-XI don't want a holy war, just names ;)12:41
lauraOpen Office12:41
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cmathesonRazor-X: vim12:41
lsuactiafneri use joe, but abiword is nice12:42
Razor-Xyou edit text in Oper Office?12:42
lsuactiafnerjoe is more for programmin + real text12:42
Razor-X*Open12:42
lsuactiafnerabiword is like ms_word but nicer,12:42
Razor-Xwell, programming should be included, ;)12:42
laurayeah, it has a word program12:42
poningruemacs all the way12:42
Razor-Xyeah yeah, i've used it all12:42
poningruno emacs12:42
Razor-Xlaura: text editor and word processor are different things ;)12:42
poningruyou cant use it all12:42
Razor-Xerrr, not used12:42
Razor-Xheard of12:42
poningruthere is only emacs12:42
Razor-Xponingru: I think with you ;)12:42
lsuactiafnerfor progammin joe, mc (midnight commander) has a nice editor12:42
laura*kills self*12:42
Razor-Xmcedit ;)12:43
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Razor-Xany more?12:43
cmathesonponingru: emacs sucks bleh! (haha, just kidding i like it almost as much as vim)12:43
Razor-Xfrom what I can gather......12:43
Razor-Xthe most popular ones (in no order) are:12:43
lsuactiafnerjoe really is nice for programmin, colours..12:43
Razor-Xemacs, vim, nano, joe, mcedit12:43
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Razor-Xany others you people have heard of, that work in command-line?12:44
lsuactiafnerapt-cache search editor12:44
Razor-Xhmmmm?12:44
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lsuactiafnerapt-cache search "text editor"12:44
lsuactiafnerRazor-X : joe works in commanline, i write all my programmin in it12:44
blueyedWhat's the ubuntu way to mount a ftp site? This is in an internal network and I think it would make backups easier.12:44
lsuactiafneralso, it has colours to make things easier12:45
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Razor-Xlsuactiafner: hmmm... I shoulda thought o that ;)12:45
cmathesonlsuactiafner: don't they all have colors?12:45
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Razor-XI've heard of joe, I have a friend who's a diehard joe user12:45
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blueyedjEdit is good for programming (java editor, I use it for php).12:46
qos_ can somebody take a look on my error? http://phpfi.com/6849212:46
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Razor-Xis it command-line?12:47
vladuz976goldfish, is there anyway during installation to make sure it configures the videocard?12:47
blueyedRazor-X: jEdit? no..12:47
vladuz976goldfish, so i don't get that resolution problem12:47
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Razor-Xthat's what I thought12:49
Razor-Xwow, text editing has gone too much by the way of GUI, IMO12:49
vladuz976anybody else in here have the same problem with the really low resolution?12:49
lipshi all is there anybody using iPodder on hoary?12:49
Razor-Xvladuz976: tons ;) too tired to remember the solution, though12:49
cmathesonvladuz976: no, just edit your xorg.conf12:49
tiglionabbitvladuz976: I believe there is a wiki entry on that12:49
bimberi!resolution12:50
uboturumour has it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:50
Razor-Xlips: almost always is ;)12:50
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vladuz976tiglionabbit, but i don't know my the exact specs12:50
lipsrazor-x that's great12:50
Razor-Xcan you people do me a favor?12:50
Razor-Xlook at two documents, and tell me which looks prettier12:50
Razor-Xthere's a very subtle difference, but there's a difference12:50
lipsrazor-x because i experience strange problems with it: during installation it copied my entire /home to /opt12:50
lipsrazor-x that succesfully filled my hard drive12:51
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Razor-Xlips: i've heard of problems such as that, sorry, I myself don't use an ipod ;)12:51
tiglionabbitvladuz976: do you have a manual for your monitor?  When you press the menu buttons, does it display the specs?  Can you look it up on the internet?  Can you use the monitor with another computer/OS where it works?12:51
lipsrazor-x oh, ok12:51
vladuz976tiglionabbit, no unfortunately not12:52
lipsrazor-x it's not ipod, its iPodder lemon, podcasting software12:52
tiglionabbitvladuz976: you can't do any of those things?12:52
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vladuz976tiglionabbit, i can get the specs online i guess12:52
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tiglionabbitvladuz976: then do it.  Good luck.  Welcome to linux12:52
j_fletcherbeep media player says  that mpeg support is enables ,but nothing plays12:53
j_fletcherideaS/12:53
Razor-Xbeeeeeeeeeeeeeep ;)12:53
Razor-Xahhh, yeah, i'm tired12:53
Razor-XI use VLC meself, sorry :\12:54
Razor-Xand cplay/mpg123/ogg123 for audio playback12:54
j_fletcherapt-get cmd?12:54
j_fletcheri really need a video player12:54
j_fletcherfor porn12:54
j_fletcher;D12:54
j_fletcherand DVDs etc12:54
Razor-Xok........ the latter was not neccessary12:54
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lsuactiafnermplayer12:54
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Razor-Xbut if you're so sad you can't find sexual happiness (as I gather from other sexuals), then use VLC12:54
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Razor-Xhowever unholy your usage is ;)12:55
Razor-Xi'm asexual, so, heh *shrugs*12:55
j_fletcherhey, i got my reason12:55
lsuactiafnermplayer rocks your world.12:55
Razor-Xi'm not doubting that ;)12:55
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j_fletcheryou wouldnt be winking if you knew12:55
Razor-Xmplayer is pretty awesome, I just prefer VLC meself12:55
Razor-Xj_fletcher: out with it then ;)12:56
tiglionabbitsay Razor-X, right now for me mplayer will play quicktime with sound, but vlc will not.  Why's that?12:56
lsuactiafnermplayer got the nice -vf cropdetect and -vf crop and no huge windowed display12:56
j_fletcherwell, it's not actually for porn, but the reason I dont got a gf is due to tradgedy..12:56
j_fletcheranywho12:56
lsuactiafnerso i can watch a movie while i do other things on the desktop12:56
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: really?....12:56
j_fletcherI'll download mplayer now12:56
tiglionabbitRazor-X: yeah.  Do I need some codecs?12:56
tiglionabbitRazor-X: both play the video12:56
Razor-XI myself watched Revelations QT hi-res, and all went fine12:56
Razor-Xmake sure you're sound plugin is sound, i'm guessing12:57
Razor-X(no pun intended)12:57
lsuactiafnerargh12:57
vladuz976tiglionabbit, i found the ones for the monitor do i need the videocard too?12:57
lsuactiafnerwhy do ppl always say no-pun12:57
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: because it came out pun-ish only after I rerread it12:57
Razor-X*reread12:57
lsuactiafnerits like rubbin it someones face that you're capable of usin puns..12:57
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Razor-Xand, therefore, I used a nice colloquialism to cover up my lack of thought in internet-speech12:58
noobhi everyone... i need some help... can someone tellme how to point my Ubuntu to open videos with MPlayer?  My default application for it is Totem but MPlayer is muuuuuch better...12:58
l3nlo12:58
tiglionabbitvladuz976: it doens't hurt to know everything about your hardware12:58
lsuactiafnerlol12:58
Razor-Xthe more tired I get, my speech 'evolves' I have little blocks that dumb my speech down ;)12:58
Razor-Xas, i'm assuming, you can tell12:58
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tiglionabbitnoob: right-click on a file, and select properties.  There should be a tab in the window that shows up that lets you add and switch preferred viewers for that filetype12:58
Razor-Xnoob: ahhh, sorry, I use CLI meself12:58
Razor-XI never open anything from a GUI, except my Eterm which I pass quite-a-few weird parameters12:59
noobok ppl i m trying...12:59
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Razor-Xtherefore, I need not use the large behemoth that is called the GUI, heh12:59
Razor-Xbut, as I get sleepy, my grammar deadens12:59
tiglionabbitRazor-X: no need to pontificate, it was a quick answer12:59
l3nim using the live cd and the display is fooked, any ideas? Thanks01:00
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: brain is looping in fogdom01:00
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Razor-XI need to keep talking while I finish the section and turn in for the afternoon ;)01:00
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l3nit just comes up mashed up colours :(01:00
biovoreoO01:00
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Razor-X13n: are you using the correct amount of colors?01:00
tiglionabbitRazor-X: anyway, my sound is fine, but it appears at the moment mplayer is my only video player that can play quicktime with sound.  Totem and VLC do not play any sound, with the same videos01:00
biovorewhat graphics card you using l3n,  (laptop?)01:01
tiglionabbitI also don't appear to support .rm....01:01
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: as I said, I played Star Wars: Revelations on VLC quite-a-few times01:01
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: I'm asking why, not if it's possible01:01
Razor-Xnot sure... hmmmmm01:01
l3nnot its Ati radeon 920001:01
Razor-XUbuntu, correct?01:01
tiglionabbitRazor-X: of course, dude.  Hoary01:01
l3ndesktop01:01
lsuactiafnerl3n : yeh that card is a beech.. but never tried it with ubuntu01:02
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: it was Kubuntu or Ubunt ;)01:02
biovorehmmm.. discribe the problems sum more?01:02
Razor-X*Ubuntu01:02
lsuactiafnerl3n : run xorgconf01:02
Razor-Xhmmm...01:02
biovorelow color res?01:02
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Razor-Xuse the standard window manager?01:02
l3nwhats the cheatcode to start low res01:02
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l3nit boots into the funny mashed up screen01:03
biovoreyou can press ctrl alt + or ctrl alt -  to change the modes01:03
kbrookswtf is scrollkeeper01:03
l3nafter boot?01:03
biovoreafter x is started01:03
l3nto change res?01:03
Razor-Xkbrooks: google01:03
biovoreyup..01:03
smokin1could anybody assist me in setuping up my internet connection with Ubuntu?01:03
l3nthanks mate01:03
l3nill try that01:03
biovoreit might just be xorg.conf is missing the "DefaultDeep 24" line down by the modes01:04
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l3nits running the defaults on the live cd01:04
j_fletcherdvd player?01:04
j_fletcher:s01:04
j_fletcheranyone01:04
blueyedWhat special purpose has the "backup" user on a ubuntu system? Can I use it to execute my own backups via cron?01:04
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blueyedsmokin1: what connection type doy ou have?01:05
tiglionabbitRazor-X: can you tell me exactly what packages I should have for vlc to play quicktime and realmedia properly?01:05
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smokin1blueyed: dsl01:05
blueyedsmokin1: "sudo pppoeconf"01:05
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slackerhey, can i ask kind of a noob question01:06
l3nlol01:06
slackerlol01:06
kbrooksASK01:06
smokin1blueyed: i take it thats the command to enter in terminal?...pardon my noobness01:06
kbrooksAsk*01:06
blueyedsmokin1: rightyright :)01:06
slackeri installed and i selected some low resolutions on what res i wanted to use01:06
slackerduring the install01:06
l3nok, ill try ATRL ALT +, etc01:06
slackerand now i want to change that01:06
slackercan i change it in a config01:06
l3nthanks alot for your help01:06
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l3ncya01:07
smokin1blueyed: lemme give it a whirl peace01:07
blueyedsmokin1: it says Superuser (root), please do "pppoeconf"01:07
biovoreyeah.. ATI+linux == crap untill ATI makes a decent driver01:07
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lsuactiafnerslacker : ##slackware (;01:07
l3nthanks anyway01:07
l3nbye01:07
slackerwhaa why there01:07
slackeroh lol01:07
kbrooksslacker, ubuntu or slackware?01:07
slackerno this is my nick from a long time ago01:07
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slackerim on ubuntu01:07
slackeri used to be theslacker in like middle school01:07
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slackerbefore i knew what linux what01:08
slackerwas01:08
slackeru know when u do the install you select what resolutions to use? i forgot to select some01:08
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HrdwrBoBdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:08
tiglionabbitslacker: you can edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add them01:08
HrdwrBoBre-runs that program01:09
lsuactiafnerheh omg now i'm laggin..01:09
kbrooksi want to upgrade python to hoary's version. i'm on warty. could a simple install of the python package do it?01:09
slackerok thnx01:09
noobthanks razor and tigli... it's working now01:09
slackerthank u tiglionabbit01:09
kbrookson warty, upgrading to hoary01:09
HrdwrBoBkbrooks: lots of things depend on python, it'll be very messy.. I'd recommend upgrading the whole thing01:09
vladuz976hi anybody, what are the drives called i look for with apt-get to make my nvidia work?01:09
lsuactiafnerprolly getting flooded01:09
kbrooksHrdwrBoB, how!01:09
kbrookserm wait01:09
kbrooks'the whole thing'01:10
kbrooks?01:10
HrdwrBoBvladuz976: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:10
HrdwrBoBkbrooks: yes01:10
tiglionabbitslacker: simply add them as strings on the lines about your monitor that start with "Modes"01:10
lsuactiafnerubotu : tell slacker about resolution01:10
kbrooksas in warty?01:10
HrdwrBoBkbrooks: change 'warty' to 'hoary'01:10
HrdwrBoBin /etc/apt/sources.list01:10
kbrooksah okay01:10
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get update01:10
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HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:10
lsuactiafner!resolution01:10
ubotuwell, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:10
kbrooksHrdwrBoB, im not a noob, i just got confused01:11
tiglionabbitwatch out about dist-upgrade though.  It will uninstall packages if requirements change, and after that you may as well be hoary01:11
lsuactiafnervladuz976 : apt-cache search nvidia01:11
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HrdwrBoBkbrooks: that's cool :)01:11
HrdwrBoBtiglionabbit: ? it *will* be hoary01:11
tiglionabbitHrdwrBoB: um, yeah.01:12
kbrookshm01:12
tiglionabbitHrdwrBoB: but not completely.  Only for the things you upgrade.  Unless you don't give that an argument01:12
kbrooksuh01:12
tiglionabbitin which case yes01:12
HrdwrBoBif you dist-upgrade, it'll upgrade everthing it can01:13
HrdwrBoBthat's the whole point.01:13
kbrookswhy argue over a solved issue? ;)01:13
tiglionabbityeah01:13
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slackeris there a line i can put in modes in the xorg that will just enable them all01:13
lsuactiafnerslacker, nope01:14
slackerk thnx01:14
HrdwrBoBslacker: if you have your monitor configured right it will auto probe them01:14
kbrooksslacker, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:14
vladuz976the nvidia driver install worked but the resolution is still bad and can't change01:14
kbrooksslacker, (use w/ caution)01:14
slackerok01:14
HrdwrBoBvladuz976: your monitor definition is likely wrong01:14
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HrdwrBoBanyway, off to work01:14
lsuactiafneri'll paste alll for yuou01:14
kbrooksread everything carefully before confirming.....01:14
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kbrooksslacker, if it offers to probe, say yes01:15
goldfishvladuz976: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:15
smokin1blueyed: no dice...command not found01:15
kbrooks(as in autodetect)01:15
vladuz976i am gonna try the wiki page now01:15
lsuactiafnerubotu : tell vladuz976 about resolution01:15
kbrooksgrrrr01:15
kbrooksi need a FAST mirror01:16
blueyedsmokin1: then you have to "sudo apt-get pppoeconf" before. Or use synaptic01:16
kbrooksblueyed, uh01:16
kbrooksblueyed, apt-get install pppoeconf01:16
blueyedright.., smokin1 .. ^^01:16
blueyedI often forget that damn "install"01:17
smokin1gotcha...synaptic is???01:17
blueyedthere should be apt-install..01:17
kbrooksa gui frontend to apt01:17
smokin1ok01:17
kbrooksblueyed, dont whine01:17
smokin1wish me luck01:17
blueyed..just alias ;)01:17
kbrooksheh01:18
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kbrooksalias apt-install='apt-get install'01:19
kbrooks:P01:19
lsuactiafnerkbrooks : good idea01:20
vladuz976hey guys, after the nvidia driver installed fine, do i still need to configure the video hardware or can i just tru the monitor, because sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:21
vladuz976asks me to to configure the video hardware too01:21
mcdonaldswesoff topic: I've got code I'd like to put under BSD license... do I have to put the license text in every single source file, or can I just include it in the readme?01:22
lsuactiafnermcdonaldswes : no idea, ask in ubuntu-devel01:22
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kbrooksmcdonaldswes, uh, let me check01:22
kbrookslsuactiafner, dude!01:22
kbrooksmcdonaldswes, "Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer."01:23
kbrooksmcdonaldswes, put the license in every file.....01:23
mcdonaldsweshmm, I guess I can't go wrong if I do that01:24
vladuz976hi for desired X server driver do i pick nv or nvidia?01:25
kbrooksnvidia01:25
keikoznvidia is better01:25
vladuz976thanks01:25
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vladuz976guys, i don't know what kernel framebuffer device interface is01:26
vladuz976asks me to use or not?01:26
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cafuegovladuz976: Tell it 'No'01:26
lsuactiafner /dev/fbdev01:26
lsuactiafner /dev/fb001:27
vladuz976ok01:27
idleCatAny news on mono 1.1.8 ?01:27
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vladuz976hmmm, select the X.org server modules that should be loaded by default. do i need to select anyting here?01:28
vladuz976other than what is already selected01:28
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cafuegovladuz976: Check /usrs/ahre/doc/nvidia-glx/README for info.01:29
cafuegos/ahre/share/01:29
z|banditohi01:29
j_fletcheranyone have trouble with DVD playback?01:29
j_fletchercoz I do01:29
idleCatWhat does it mean for something to be in the backports ?01:30
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lipsSo i'll try again: is there anybody using iPodder Lemon on hoary?01:30
lsuactiafnerj_fletcher : sudo hdparm -d /dev/dvd01:31
cafuegowatch out for adam curry01:31
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j_fletcherlsuactiafner: should that fix somthing?01:31
j_fletcherno dvd folder in dev01:32
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goldfishj_fletcher: what is your problem?01:34
lsuactiafnertry /dev/cdrom01:34
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goldfishj_fletcher: sluggish dvd playback?01:34
j_fletchergoldfish: none at al01:35
goldfishI see.01:35
j_fletchergoldfish: i followed the installation on www.ubuntuguide.org01:35
goldfishj_fletcher: installation of what?01:35
j_fletcherand installed xine and mplayer01:35
vladuz976all that stuff on the wiki page didn't do anything to the screen resolution01:35
j_fletcher"DVD Playback"01:35
goldfishj_fletcher: i see.01:36
lsuactiafnervladuz976 : press control alt + or -01:36
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goldfishwhat program you using?01:36
lsuactiafnerthe plus and minus @ the far end of the keyboard01:36
j_fletchergoldfish: I'm using mplayer and xine to test01:36
goldfishhmm01:36
j_fletcherI have a DVD mounted01:36
goldfishj_fletcher: try out vlc01:36
vladuz976lsuactiafner, only gets bigger01:36
j_fletchergoldfish: when I click DVD on xine, it gives an error (somthing about the engine"01:36
goldfishj_fletcher: also that site, is bad, its sources.list can cause problems.01:36
goldfishhmmm01:36
goldfishi dont like xiine.01:36
goldfish*use01:37
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j_fletchergoldfish: I use that plus the sources.list of www.tehjunkyard.net/sources.list01:37
kbrookswhats the deal with apt resettting *% (where * is a numbber) when a pkg has finished dling01:37
lsuactiafnervladuz976 : rofl01:37
lsuactiafnervladuz976 : xorgconf dude01:37
kbrooksthe first one?01:37
goldfishj_fletcher: try apt-get install vlc01:38
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goldfishj_fletcher: see if vlc works for you01:38
vladuz976lsuactiafner, whta's that01:38
sinfernoumm when i mount my ntfs hard drive i have trouble accessing it due to permissions01:38
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goldfishsinferno: how are you mounting it?01:39
vladuz976anybody else gone thru the same trouble?01:39
kbrooksuh01:39
vladuz976and can help?01:39
goldfishvladuz976: lots.01:39
kbrooksi have a question01:39
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sinfernojust sudo mount /etc/hdb1 /mnt/hdb101:39
vladuz976goldfish, could please give me some more advice01:39
goldfishsinferno: you can access it with sudo01:40
kbrooksi need a INSTANT mirror for Canada01:40
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sinfernoits like an mp3 hd01:40
sinfernoi want to be able to access it from anywhere01:40
sinfernohow do i access it with sudo01:40
sinfernoerr with anyone that is01:40
goldfishem01:40
goldfishhold on01:40
sinfernok01:40
Strifeanyone in here successfully built E17 from CVS source?01:40
epohsi would like to know how to unmount a directory that was mounted using the --bind option01:40
goldfishumount -f ?01:41
vladuz976goldfish, i thought my hardware is pretty standard so it should have detected01:41
goldfishvladuz976: yeah, that reconfigure should have sorted it ou01:41
goldfish*out01:41
epohsdevice is busy01:41
vladuz976i had all the specs and went thru all the steps on wiki01:41
vladuz976but still same01:41
sinfernoi meant to say mount /dev instead of /etc01:42
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sinfernoe/e01:42
j_fletchergoldfish: VLC works, thanks :)01:42
goldfishj_fletcher: cool01:42
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kbrookshmmm01:42
goldfishsinferno: i know :)01:42
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j_fletchernow I can watch "I'm Alan Partridge", before I got on holiday tomorrow :)01:42
j_fletcherlast moments of England01:43
sinfernolol yea01:43
sinfernook so its mounted now... but i cant access it01:43
sinfernoso i have no problem mounting it01:43
sinfernoi guess chown??01:43
goldfishsinferno: you need to specify a umask of 000 so anyone can read to it01:43
goldfishim trying to find the syntax for you01:44
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sinfernook cool01:44
sinfernoyea theres no man for umask01:44
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goldfishsinferno: try mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 umask=00001:45
epohsgoldfish, umount -f still says the device is busy, but it gives the error twice01:45
goldfishhmmm01:45
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goldfishepohs: are u in the directory of the device you're trying to unmount?01:46
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sinfernobah01:46
The_Flyestcan someone help me wiith installing alsa?01:46
sinfernoit worked to make a folder01:46
sinfernobut not to mount01:46
The_Flyesta good howto maybe?01:46
sinfernoit just tells me the usage01:46
goldfishsinferno: k01:46
epohsno01:47
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epohsgoldfish, i don't seem to be accessing it with any terminal or anything01:47
The_Flyestsomeone a good howto for installling alsa?01:47
sinfernomaybe i can just edit my fstab?01:47
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sinfernolast time i did that i had to reinstall tho lol01:47
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goldfishsinferno: mount -oumask=000 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb101:48
sinfernooumask or umask01:48
epohsit is basically a folder full of mp3s that i'm trying to mount into another user directory, but i'm unable to unmount it, ever.01:48
bwlang_is there a web cam that works well with linux (gpl drivers preferably)01:48
vladuz976goldfish, so no more help you canoffer?01:48
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The_Flyestsomeone a good howto for installling alsa?01:48
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sinfernoholyyyyyyyy crapppp01:49
sinfernou are sooo awesome01:49
sinfernogoldfish, thanks01:49
goldfishvladuz976: i'm not too sure man :/01:49
goldfishsinferno: np01:49
sinfernois this gonna be here01:49
sinfernowhen i restart01:49
sinfernoor do i have to do something01:49
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vladuz976goldfish, ok thanks anyways01:49
goldfishsinferno: you have to put it in /etc/fstab if you want permanent01:50
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goldfishvladuz976: not alot of the knowledgable ppl are on, maybe they can help when they come on01:50
sinfernoi tried to do that last night01:50
sinfernoand i had to reinstall01:50
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sinfernolol01:50
goldfishsinferno: well01:50
goldfishsinferno: i'll help.01:50
sinfernoim scareeed01:50
vladuz976goldfish, ok i'll try againlater01:50
goldfish!resolution01:51
ubotuit has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:51
jasoncohenwhat's the easiest way to install only selected packages from backports? i'm thinking i would have to add a pin for hoary, hoary-updates, and hoary-security of 990 and then set hoary-backports as 500 in /etc/apt/preferences01:51
goldfishvladuz976: u looked at that link?01:51
jasoncohenwould that work?01:51
eno__hi can I install rpms in ubuntu?01:51
eno__and if so, how would I do it?01:51
goldfisheno__: alien moo.rpm01:51
Quest-Mastereno_: man alien01:51
goldfishgives u moo.deb01:51
goldfishthen use dpkg -i moo.deb01:51
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vladuz976goldfish, which one01:51
eno__is anyone else having problems with firefox these days :P?01:52
sinfernohmm it made a folder called umask=000 in my home dir should i delete that?01:52
goldfish!resolution01:52
uboturesolution is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:52
goldfishvladuz976: ^^01:52
sinfernosomehow01:52
goldfisheno__: yes, i switched to opera.01:52
goldfishsinferno: yes.01:52
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vladuz976goldfish, the wiki how to? yeah01:52
eno__thanks for your help folks01:52
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lsuactiafnereno__ : no problems if you use the firefox binary from the mozilla site01:53
torti-evening guys, did anyone install patched orinoco drivers (with monitor mode)? if so can you _please_ telle me an elegant way to do so?01:53
lsuactiafnerfirefox for ubuntu needs to be recompiled.01:53
eno__well there is a version problem, which isn't a big deal... but now it wont install java.01:53
cafuegotorti-: Fetch the drivers, replace the old driver in the kernel source tree with the new ones, build kernel, install, boot, done.01:53
torti-hm i try to avoid that01:54
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sinfernolol wtf this music player sucks01:54
torti-actually i like the installed kernel01:54
sinfernothere is no plugin installed to handle a mp3 file01:54
sinfernothats lame01:54
Quest-Mastersinferno: Rhythmbox?01:54
Strifethat's not the player01:54
Strifethat's ubuntu01:54
sinfernoyeah01:54
Quest-Mastersinferno: Yes there is.01:54
torti-the nicest would be a patched pcmcia-cs+orinoco .deb file01:54
sinfernoit says that01:54
cafuegotorti-: Then you'll need to build the patched drivere by hand and replace the in-kernel driver.01:54
eno__okay, the rpm is in a bin file, do I just extract and then alien?01:54
Quest-Mastersinferno: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad01:54
bwlang_Which webcam is a good choice for debian?01:55
torti-cafuego:  this is the lesser of two evils01:55
cafuegobwlang_: Ask on #debian01:55
sinfernothanks01:55
jasoncohensinferno, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad01:55
torti-cafuego:  any more ubuntu-like way to do it?01:55
Quest-Mastersinferno: Make sure you have universe enabled.. and next time you ridicule software, make sure you know the facts before doning the ridiculing :P01:55
cafuegotorti-: Dunno, just adding it to the kernel source has always worked fine for me.01:55
jasoncohensinferno, or apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins01:55
cafuegotorti-: After all, you can do it to the ububntu kernel-source tree and then rebuild the ubuntu kernel.01:55
sinfernoomg chill out man did u make the software or something i was kidding01:55
sinfernothanks anyways01:56
torti-cafuego:  well then you need to recompile the kernel into a deb file (can ubuntu then update the kernel?)01:56
cafuegotorti-: Of course.01:56
bwlang_cafuego: doh... thought i was in debian01:56
jasoncohensinferno, it has nothing to do with rhythmbox. mp3 is trademarked and couldn't be included in main01:56
vladuz976goldfish, wanna know what did it?01:56
cafuegotorti-: Use 'make-kpkg' from the 'kernel-package' package to do that.01:56
goldfishvladuz976: yes :)01:56
eno__well to hell with it I guess, I will wait until they fix it for synaptic eh?  hahahahaha01:56
sinfernooh thats why01:56
jasoncohensinferno, you need to add the universe source01:56
torti-cafuego:  somehow i don't feel comfortable with this... any guide for this?01:56
goldfish!sources01:56
ubotufrom memory, sources is http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:56
goldfish!repositories01:57
uboturepositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:57
goldfishsinferno: ^^01:57
vladuz976goldfish,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf i added the desired resolution to the list under color depth 24 and then i could pick it01:57
goldfishvladuz976: hah01:57
sinfernolol how do i get xmms01:57
goldfishvladuz976: well done :)01:57
vladuz976goldfish, but now screen is flickering01:57
sinfernonvm stupid question01:57
goldfishsinferno: dont01:57
sinfernoill get it01:57
vladuz976goldfish, not really01:57
sinfernook01:57
sinfernowhy01:57
jasoncohensinferno, if you uncomment the deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list you'll have all available ubuntu sources. you can also add the sources easily in synaptic01:57
goldfishsinferno: get beep-media-player01:57
goldfishit's better01:58
sinfernook01:58
Seveaseeek01:58
goldfishvladuz976: hmmm, ok, that sounds like vert horz refresh rates are not correct01:58
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Seveasan ubuntuguide url in ubotu01:58
Seveasbad bot01:58
goldfishSeveas: indeed .01:58
vladuz976goldfish, i edit those in the same file right?01:58
goldfishhow do u make it forget stuff?01:58
goldfishvladuz976: yep, what computer u on?01:59
Seveasgoldfish, ENOIDEA01:59
jasoncohensinferno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:59
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vladuz976goldfish, laptop with you now01:59
Seveassinferno: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:59
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naliothSeveas: no! ubotu recommending the 'guide? horrors!01:59
jasoncohensinferno, you can use either the synaptic or the terminal method01:59
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sinfernook thanks01:59
goldfishvladuz976: is this the one you are editing xorg on?01:59
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vladuz976goldfish, no01:59
goldfishSeveas: lol01:59
signbarnHow do I find my internal IP address in Ubuntu?01:59
goldfishvladuz976: ok, what is the pc you are editing xorg on?01:59
Seveassignbarn, ifconfig02:00
Jimbob /sbin/ifconfig02:00
signbarnthank you, Saveas02:00
vladuz976goldfish, amd athlong  what do you need to know?02:00
epohsgoldfish, according to fuser "gam_server" is the process using that directory that i have mounted02:00
epohsany ideas?02:00
goldfishepohs: kill it02:00
jasoncohenSeveas, as for music players- there are many- Rhythmbox, amarok, beep-media-player for music and xine-ui, totem, mplayer, vlc, kaffeine etc. for video02:00
chopehi, when i try to run amarokapp, or frozen-bubble they give the "segmentation fault" error, they used to work fine until i had some problems with graphic drivers, what can be happening?02:00
goldfishepohs: ps aux |grep gam_server02:00
goldfishepohs: kill the pid of the process it finds02:01
tiglionabbitchope: there's problems with your graphics drivers02:01
goldfishepohs: ps aux |grep [g] am_server02:01
jasoncohenchope, what driver are you using?02:01
Seveasjasoncohen, I know :)02:01
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goldfishvladuz976: hmmm, is the flickering bad?02:01
vladuz976goldfish, pretty bad yes02:01
goldfishk02:01
cafuegotorti-: There's probably a  nice step-by-step guide on compiling one's own kernel on the wiki, let me a have a look.02:01
Seveascafuego, there is02:02
Seveascafuego,torti: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto02:02
epohsgoldfish: ok, i killed gam_server and it let me umount, but i kinda want to automate the mounting and unmounting of that directory, this will cause a problem no?02:02
goldfishepohs: hmm, it might02:02
sinfernowoot that worked thanks guys02:03
torti-cafuego:  thx for looking02:03
cafuegotorti-: Cool. in that howto, just replace the c source files in kernel-source-2.6.11.whatever/drivers/net/wireless/*.[ch]  with the ones from the orinoco-0.15-X tarball.02:03
torti-hm this should work02:04
cafuegotorti-: ... then recompile.02:04
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sinfernogoldfish, where can i get that beep-media-player02:04
sinfernoi dont see it in the package manager02:05
Seveassinferno, enable universe02:05
sinfernoi did02:05
sinfernoand updated02:05
sinfernotheres a crapload of packages now but i still dont see it02:05
Seveasit's the package beep-media-player02:05
Seveassinferno, a nice Ubuntu skin for it is http://ubuntu-nl.org/file/4Humans.tgz02:05
torti-cafuego:  by the way: dou you know the reason why the patched drivers aren't in the kernel tree?02:06
naliothsinferno: enable multiverse, too (lots more toys)02:06
tiglionabbitIs there a command to make something play in rhythmbox while the program is open (not create another instance)02:06
sinfernoyeah i did02:06
|QuaD-dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3-imaging_1.1.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/pilconvert.py', which is also in package python2.4-imaging02:06
tiglionabbitlike a queueing command02:06
sinfernostill cant find it02:06
|QuaD-dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)02:06
|QuaD-anyone else getting that02:06
|QuaD-on breezy?02:06
goldfishsinferno: in a terminal, apt-cache search beep-media-player02:06
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epohshmm... [ tp://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ ]  is there any way to keep that from locking my mounted directories?02:07
jasoncohenwill this work to choose ubuntu packages over backports? - http://pastebin.ca/1699702:07
sinfernook i did that but it didnt do aything02:07
transgressis it bad if i forgot to install swap space?02:07
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transgressor make swap space i guess02:07
Seveasjasoncohen, no02:07
Seveasyou need to set the ubuntu repos at +100002:08
naliothtransgress: depends on how much system ram you have, if over 8gb, probably not  :P02:08
Seveas100102:08
transgressnalioth: got 512 on my lappy... never used over half of it02:08
jasoncohenSeveas, why?02:08
jasoncohenSeveas, that will remove all my backports stuff02:08
transgressnalioth: but i've heard that it's still kind of needed02:08
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naliothtransgress: you can use parted (or its graphical frontends) to free up some space and make swap02:08
jasoncohenSeveas, i want to be able to have some backport packages but not have to upgrade my other ubuntu packages to backport02:08
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sinfernoi have 3290 packages listed does that sound like i have universe whatever done right?02:08
Seveasjasoncohen, oh, I thought that that was what you wanted....02:09
transgressnalioth: do i need to do anything special before i do that?  or can i just run it?02:09
kaloloHI.. any tip for getting up monodevelop?02:09
Seveasif the current situation is ok but you want no more backports this should work02:09
jasoncohensinferno, no- you have main02:09
naliothtransgress: qtparted should be able to get you ~512mb space for swap02:09
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jasoncohensinferno, with universe, multiverse, main, restricted you would have 16,000 or so02:09
sinfernohmm i did all that wikepedia stuff02:09
Will__Stop saying my name!02:09
jasoncohensinferno, you need to run apt-get update02:09
nalioths_dogsinferno: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:10
sinfernolet me check the sources again02:10
nalioths_dogsinferno: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:10
transgressnalioth: is it safe to do that on a mounted partition?02:10
naliothtransgress: probably not02:10
transgressnalioth: so perhaps from a livecd or what?02:10
naliothtransgress: do you have a liveCD?02:10
transgresshehe02:10
Seveastransgress, you cannot resize a mounted partition :)02:10
sinfernoohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mg02:10
sinfernothats wh02:10
sinfernoi did the last 2 lines02:10
goldfish!forget sources02:10
ubotui forgot sources, goldfish02:10
sinfernoinstead of the first 202:10
eno__what happened to BeOS? that was awesome.02:11
jasoncohensinferno, ?02:11
transgressah wait... i can nab some from the ntfs partition though hehe02:11
naliothgoldfish: i just did that02:11
Seveasgoldfish, you are the greatest :)02:11
goldfish!sources is paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:11
ubotugoldfish: okay02:11
sinfernoi uncommented the wrong ones02:11
jasoncoheneno__, lol, i never even got sound working in BeOS02:11
goldfishnalioth: k02:11
Seveas!sources02:11
ubotusources is, like, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:11
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naliothgoldfish: Seveas i just did that02:11
transgressnm no i can't02:11
goldfishsorry i didnt see02:11
goldfish:/02:11
tiglionabbitSeveas: you may want to put http://02:11
naliothgoldfish: Seveas i just updated the bot02:11
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goldfishnalioth: ok :)02:11
Seveas!forget sources02:11
ubotui forgot sources, Seveas02:11
bimberilol02:11
Seveasubotu, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:12
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ubotuSeveas: okay02:12
Seveasthan you ubotu02:12
Seveasthank*02:12
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sinfernook sweet thats why02:12
sinfernoim getting it now02:12
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Seveaswhere's my eliza :)02:12
KyralWhen the bots start talking back...02:12
linuxn00bHi, I can't play a video stream over the network using vlc I keep getting "could not add application"02:13
tiglionabbitSeveas: is there a reason why it lists archive.ubuntu.com twice?02:13
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Seveastiglionabbit, yes02:13
sinfernohahahah when u search for beep theres a livejournal client called logjam02:13
Seveasloook at the differences :)02:13
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tiglionabbithoary-updates02:13
fivreHey, does build-essential come with a C# compiler?02:13
Seveasfivre, no02:13
tiglionabbitbut can't you put that on the other lines?02:13
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SeveasC# is not considered essential02:14
Seveas(and t isn't)02:14
tiglionabbithehe02:14
naliothSeveas: so c# is recreational?02:14
Seveasfivre, install some mono packages for that02:14
Seveasnalioth, in hoary: yes02:14
tiglionabbitbuild-recreational02:14
tiglionabbitlol02:14
Seveasyou know that a new name for the # character is rap02:14
tiglionabbitSeveas: why is it you can't put hoary-updates on the top lines, and must list those sources twice?02:14
Seveasto use in C#02:14
bimberiSeveas: lol02:15
naliothi miss mirc, when you /notice somebody their client pings02:15
Seveastiglionabbit, hoary-updates is a different repository02:15
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Seveasnalioth, check :)02:15
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tiglionabbitSeveas: could you explain to me how those arguments are interpreted?02:15
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j_fletcherk, installing themes, not just like installing desklets?02:15
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goldfishnalioth: run it in wine02:16
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goldfishoh02:16
j_fletcherinstall package -> search -> file.tar.gz ?02:16
Seveastiglionabbit, base_url repository [section [section [section [section] ] ] ] 02:16
bimberi"man sources.list"02:16
naliothgoldfish: i don't miss it that much, and was referring to me /noticing YOU and others02:16
goldfishnalioth: :)02:16
tiglionabbitSeveas: ah, so the first argument is not a section.  thanks02:16
eric__hey people, I'm new to ubuntu, I'm trying to view my ntfs and fat32 partitions, and am having some trouble02:17
Seveaseric__: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically02:17
tiglionabbiteric__: can you mount properly?02:17
tiglionabbitoh02:17
psychonateAny play chess in Ubuntu? I'm not very good and the gnuchess engine is too hard. I'm playing in eboard and was wondering if there is a way to turn the difficulty of the gnuchess engine down.02:17
epohscrap, stupid gamin will not let go of that directory when i'm trying to umount it.  anyone know more about gamin?02:17
nalioths_dogeric__: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically02:17
Seveasnalioth, you're wayyyyyy behind02:17
SeveasI renamed that02:18
eric__I've tried that several times and when I try to view the partitions in the file viewer, they have those red x's and wont let me view them02:18
transgressgotta love installing something to RAM eh?02:18
liableroot: what does the command 'id' say?02:18
Seveasbtw, nalioth i'm working on db synchronization02:18
liableoops02:18
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naliothSeveas: yes, i'm way behind in lots of ways02:18
Seveasbut you're a member now :)02:19
tiglionabbitSeveas: do you think they will add this or a script like this to breezy?02:19
Seveasall praise nalioth :)02:19
HrdwrBoBepohs: killallgamin; sudo umount foo02:19
Seveastiglionabbit, sort of02:19
HrdwrBoBepohs: that's how to do it until breezy02:19
Seveasnot this exact script, but the functionality will be there02:19
tiglionabbitcool02:19
SeveasI just hacked this up to overcome the gap02:20
naliothSeveas: you still can't spell, though02:20
epohsHrdwrBoB: "bash: killallgamin: command not found"02:20
Seveasnalioth, that's the alcohol :)02:20
thechitowncubsHey everyone, an ubuntu computer in my house is undergoin difficulties... GDK seems to freeze, it goes through the whole bootup process than when gdm starts the working cursor justs sits for a long time and the hard drive is active but nothing ever happens02:20
thechitowncubsi cant even CTRL+F1 to get into a terminal02:20
psychonateWell, are there any chess frontends for *nix that allow one to set the difficulty level?02:20
Seveasepohs, killall gam_server02:20
eric__ok, so how do I download and install it?02:20
Seveasor gam_serve02:20
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HrdwrBoBepohs: oh sorry thats totally02:20
HrdwrBoBwrong02:20
HrdwrBoBwhat seveas said :)02:20
HrdwrBoBI just got to work, need more coffee :)02:21
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jasoncohenok, i set this as my /etc/apt/preferences and it prioritizes ubuntu packages over backport packages. unfortunately it doesn't allow me to install backport packages with apt-get install -t hoary-backports package02:21
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jasoncohenwhat did i do wrong?02:21
Seveascya all !02:21
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jasoncohenhttp://pastebin.ca/1699802:21
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naliotheric__: are you referring to the winmac thing you were sent?02:21
eric__yes02:22
epohsok, thanks.. i kill it with killall gam_server, but it just immediately respawns and ties the directory back up02:22
naliotheric__: download the thing (save as) and open a terminal where it d/l to02:23
sinfernoquestion, i have a soundblaster live value but i have 4 speakers, only 2 of them are working02:23
sinfernohow would i uhhh make all 4 work02:23
eric__ok, I'll give it a try02:24
torti-hrm, i try to compile the kernel now. but when i enter 'dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot' i get 'dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: docbook-utils kernel-package (>= 8.091.0ubuntu3) sharutils transfig dpatch kernel-wedge (>= 1.25.1ubuntu5)02:24
torti-dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.' --- feeling like a brick02:24
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drewhey everybody02:24
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drewannybody home?02:25
naliotheric__: when you get the terminal open where the file is, type "chmod +x winmac_fstab", then "sudo winmac_fstab"02:25
ted_I just set up ubuntu and the admin utiltities in the System menu do not seem to recognize my user, or the root password.  I have attempted to change the root password and use that, but to no avail.  Does ubuntu handle this in some special way?02:25
drewhey, could somebody help me setting up my Soundblaster Live! 24 bit soundcard?02:26
virgulehia, how many 'pbflush' process are normaly ran at once? Is two normal? also there is two kio_trash and two kio_pop3.?? can I safely kil one of them without smoking my system?02:26
sinfernodoes anyone know how to get setup 4 speakers on my soundblaster live02:26
naliothted_: there is no root password02:26
torti-ted_: added your user to the /etc/sudoers?02:26
drewsinferno, you got your soundblaster live to play sound?02:26
drewcus then you're way ahead of me02:26
nalioths_dogted_: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:27
ted_torti-: does it need a special line?  or just the usual ALL=(ALL) ALL ?02:27
j_fletchercan anyone tell me how to install GTK themes that I download? please02:27
torti-ted_:  just that02:27
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drewj_fletchter: click system, preferences, theme02:27
naliothj_fletcher: most themes go in ~/.themes, i believe02:27
drewj_fletcher: it's pretty straight forward02:27
ted_drew: you can download an alsa utility that will set up everything for you.  There are also some emu10k1 utilities that you can find02:27
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drewted_: where can I find these utilities?02:28
ted_apt-cache search alsa02:28
j_fletcherdrew: yeah, I then went to the tar.gz AND tryed it extracted, nothing happened02:28
ted_apt-cache search emu10k102:28
drewted_: in console?02:28
drewthanks, wish me luck02:29
torti-hrm, i try to compile the kernel now. but when i enter 'dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot' i get 'dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: docbook-utils kernel-package (>= 8.091.0ubuntu3) sharutils transfig dpatch kernel-wedge (>= 1.25.1ubuntu5)' -- anyone recognizes this or can give me a hint?02:29
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drewted_: so after I download awesfx (that's what it's called) what do I do? just restart?02:30
drewj_fletcher: um, sorry.  I don't know then. that's what I did02:30
sinfernodrew, it played sound when i installed02:30
drewthanks.02:30
sinfernodrew, i have a soundblaster live value02:30
transgressgparted doesn't want to work :(02:30
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j_fletcherdrew: in tar.gz or what?02:31
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j_fletcherwhen u searche dthe file02:31
sinfernoim having problems getting all four of my speakers to work on my soundblaster, can someone help me02:31
drewsinferno: is it 24 bit?02:31
sinfernoummm im not sure its so old02:31
sinferno16 i think02:31
sinfernono idea actually02:31
drewsinferno: um, how do you know if it's value?02:31
eric__nalioth: thanks alot, I got it to work02:31
sinfernobecause i do know02:31
sinfernoit was a value when i bought it02:32
drewhaha, k.02:32
drewthanks02:32
zenlunaticwhen i click on system -> lock screen the screen doesn't lock. why?02:32
sinfernoit was cheaper...02:32
sinfernolol02:32
drewyeah, I recently bought mine at best buy02:32
sinfernomines really old02:32
drewbut no sound is playing.02:32
sinfernomy friend gave it to me02:32
sinfernoa long time ago02:32
sinfernomy sound worked when i installed02:32
sinfernobut i need to get all 4 speakers owrking02:32
drewwhat did you use to test the sound?02:32
sinfernotest it?02:32
sinfernoit worked when i installed02:33
drewyeah, what application did you use to make the sound02:33
drewso I can test if mine works02:33
sinfernobeep media player02:33
drewhow do you open the volume control thingy?02:33
kaloloanyone suceded getting up monodevelop?02:33
drewnvm02:34
drewyeah, sinferno, no dice.02:34
transgresshmm... gparted didn't want to work, but parted sure did02:34
kaloloo.O02:34
zenlunaticwhen i click on system -> lock screen the screen doesn't lock. why?02:34
drewzenlunatic: what does it do?02:34
sinfernono dice on what02:34
naliothtransgress: so you got sorted?02:34
zenlunaticdrew nothing02:34
sinfernoi got some dice02:34
drewsinferno: on sound02:34
sinfernooh02:34
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zenlunaticdrew it used to work02:35
drewcould you open device manager?02:35
sinfernosorry im not really that good @ giving advice i just installed this distro02:35
sinfernolol02:35
drewsinferno: same here02:35
transgressnalioth: looks like it.  gonna have to fix my fstab but other than that yes02:35
drewlet's help each other:-p02:35
drewsinferno: what's device manager say about your soundcard?02:35
zenlunaticdrew any ideas?02:35
drewzenlunatic nope, sry.02:35
sinfernolemme look02:35
naliothtransgress: great!02:35
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sinfernodrew, sb live! EMU10k102:37
drewfor mine it recognizes it as SB audigy ls02:37
sinfernothat seems like a problem02:37
drewsinferno ohh, I need ca0106 not emuk01 or whatever02:37
drewsinferno, but there's no application for that. :-/02:38
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drewsinferno, lemme work on this for a sec. i've got an idea02:39
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sinfernok02:39
sinfernocan anyone help me get 4 speakers working on a sb live! value?02:40
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drewsinferno can you pm me if you find the answer to that? btw, i've heard horror stories about people trying to get that to work.02:41
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sinfernook02:41
eltinohello02:41
virgulehi02:42
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eltinoare there official hoary torrents?02:42
idleCatWhat does it mean for something to be in the backports ?02:42
naliotheltino: yes there are02:43
sinfernohey someone sent me a beep media player skin earlier but i didnt get the link 8(02:43
jasoncohenidleCat, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/faq.php02:43
transgressnalioth: thanks for the tip... got me a nice little swap partition added02:43
naliothjasoncohen: thank you (for saving me the typing)02:43
naliothtransgress: great! (now share the love)02:44
jasoncohennalioth, np02:44
eric__anyone: how do you add mp3 functionality in totem02:44
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bogahow can I make Kubuntu see my camera as an external device? When I connect via USB, nothing happens!02:44
thenukeeric__: check ubuntuguide.org02:44
nalioths_dogeric__: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support02:44
nalioths_dogthenuke: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines02:44
sinfernodoes anyone have 4 speakers working in ubuntu?02:45
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jasoncoheni read through the developer chat on the backports project and there were some concerns about security updates on backports. Any info on whether security updates will be handled differently now with the official backports project vs. regular updates?02:45
drewsinferno did you check the forums?02:45
sinfernoi checked google02:45
sinfernoits a hard string to search for02:45
sinfernoim like uhhh "4 speakers" soundblaster linux02:45
sinfernolol02:45
eric__good stuff02:46
drewhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix02:46
drewsry, ignore that02:46
drewPlease, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution02:46
drewhow do I do that?02:46
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drewanyone?02:47
naliothdrew: open synaptic and search for 'kernel'  what comes up, look for source02:47
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stevenjanyone having lag connecting to yahoo (gaim)?02:47
thechitowncubsHey everyone, an ubuntu computer in my house is undergoin difficulties... GDK seems to freeze, it goes through the whole bootup process than when gdm starts the working cursor justs sits for a long time and the hard drive is active but nothing ever happens02:47
thechitowncubsi cant even CTRL+F1 to get into a terminal02:47
drewhow do I know what kernel I have?02:48
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naliothdrew: are you using hoary?02:48
drewyes02:48
bddebianHi nalioth :)02:48
drew<== is a super n00b02:48
nalioththen i believe its 2.6.1002:48
naliothbddebian: howdy02:48
drewnalioth: thanks02:48
drewnalioth: where do I download the kernel source?02:48
drewnalioth *how do I?02:49
lifelessbob2___: ping02:49
bddebiandrew: You can apt-get a kernel package02:49
drewbddebian: what do I type?02:49
naliothdrew: using synaptic02:49
drewnalioth what do I do exactly? I'm sorry, i'm new to this02:49
bddebianOr synaptic too02:49
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drewif I search for kernel in synaptic... I only get results for 2.4.2702:50
naliothdrew: synaptic is the frontend to apt-get02:50
rekathechitowncubs: could you make a guess at what caused it?  i.e. did you make any changes etc.02:50
LinuxJonesdrew, search for linux-image02:50
drewlinuxjones ok02:50
LinuxJonesdrew, sorry your looking for source02:50
LinuxJonesdrew, my mistake02:51
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bddebiandrew: If you use apt-get you can "sudo apt-get kernel-image-2.6.12.."02:51
drewlinuxjones oh ok. thanks for helping.02:51
drewis that exactly what I type?02:51
drewthankds02:51
stevenjwhats the best Python IDE to learn with? thanks02:51
bddebiandrew: No, not the ...02:51
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XhyldazhKHi all02:51
naliothbddebian: talk him thru the use of a terminal once (after that, he'll have it)02:51
bddebiandrew: Do you really want the source or are you just looking for an updated kernel?02:52
drewbddebian: i'm good w/ computers, just new to linux. if that's possible02:52
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Mezooh when did you get ops nalioth?02:52
drewPlease, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution02:52
thechitowncubsreka: well it was burning a cd w/ graveman than it froze so we rebooted it02:52
thechitowncubsand now it does this02:52
drewthat's the error message, bddebian02:52
naliothMez: seveas did it and then left, i yelled into a quit message02:52
bddebiandrew: You truly need source?02:52
drewbddebian I guess so02:52
XhyldazhKHi... I need to install nvidia-glx. nvidia-glx depends on xlibmesa-glu, but xlibmesa-glu is replaced by and conflicts with libglu1-xorg... I forced the installation of nvidia-glx, but that left nvidia-glx broken... what should I do?02:53
drewbddebian: I ran ./configure for alsa and it says that I need the kernel source02:53
bddebianAhhh02:53
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bddebianWhy are you compiling alsa?02:53
stevenjdrew, did you (by chance) follow the "unofficial Ubuntu Guide" to set up your Ubuntu?02:53
drewbddebian: because I want sound02:53
rekaXhyldazhK: how are you installing them? with apt-get?02:53
drewstevenj no I didn't.02:54
XhyldazhKreka: yes02:54
XhyldazhKor with synaptic02:54
drewstevenj I looked at it, but I only used it to manage my extra hard drive02:54
XhyldazhKor with aptitude02:54
bddebiandrew: We don't have an alsa package?02:54
rekaXhyldazhK: :)02:54
drewbddebian: what?02:54
rekaXhyldazhK: was gonna say...if you were installing with dpkg, you may have probs with dependencies02:54
bddebiandrew: Why are you compiling alsa instead of just installing?02:54
drewbddebian: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca010602:54
XhyldazhKreka: what whould I do? I cannot install anything since nvidia-glx is broken...02:54
drewbdddebian: it told me to do it this way02:54
XhyldazhKshould02:55
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drewbddebian, is there an easier way?02:55
bddebianHang on02:55
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stevenjdrew, its pretty good but stay away from the backports as the guide suggests---also there is a "good" thread in Ubuntu forums on setting up sound (ie Alsa)02:55
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drewstevenj, what are backports?02:55
rekaXhyldazhK: so you can't install it without forcing?02:55
Mezlol - you dont have proper ops - not form CS anyways02:56
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Mezust manual ops02:56
rekastevenj, drew : yes there certainly is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656702:56
naliothMez: no, it was a drive-by opping from seveas02:56
bddebiandrew: Did you try "sudo apt-get install alsa-base" ?02:56
Mezhehe02:56
drewbddebian, nope.02:56
drewbddebian,  i'll type that in now.02:56
naliothMez: i was answering a question, he opped and left02:56
internatok so, just installed ubuntu, well kubuntu but i dont really think thehre is much difference apart from kde over gnome.. and my sound isnt working, its loaded the module for sound, snd_emu10k1x           18084  002:56
drewalsa-base is already the newest version.02:56
drewbddebian, I guess i'm good?02:57
internatand other stuff says its using that module.. but alas, i get no sound02:57
internatsuggestions?02:57
naliothinternat: there is a difference in sound 'tween ubuntu and kubuntu (they use different sound modules, i believe)02:57
naliothinternat: you might try #kubuntu or #kde02:57
bddebiandrew: What are you trying to do that isn't working?02:57
XhyldazhKreka: no, I cant install it without forcing or without uninstalling all my desktop02:57
drewbddebian,  I'm trying to get sound.  the alsa site says taht I need to use the ca0106 driver02:58
jasoncohenwhy is azureus not in breezy? it's in sarge- so i can't imagine stability is the issue02:58
stevenjdrew, backports screwed my install up -- but its a repo that installs some bleeding edge packages (gaim,gimp,firefox)02:59
jasoncohenbleeding edge?02:59
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jasoncohendrew, backports allows you to run newer versions of many desktop packages. most of the distribution is unchanged02:59
drewjasoncohen, thanks.02:59
eltinojasoncohen: because it needs java?02:59
jasoncohenstevenj, how did it screw up your install?02:59
drewbut what do I need to do to get my sound?02:59
jasoncoheneltino, ?02:59
stevenjjasoncohen, firefox would no longer work03:00
rekaXhyldazhK: hmm, not sure.  did you install any packages outside of main/multi/universe that could have caused packaging problems?03:00
bddebiandrew: try "sudo modprobe ca0106"03:00
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jasoncohenstevenj, i'm using firefox from backports now- it works fine- as does j2re from backports03:00
zenlunaticwhen i click on system -> lock screen the screen doesn't lock. why?03:00
drewbddebian, FATAL: Module ca0106 not found.03:00
XhyldazhKreka: I dont think so... the conflicts were all between ubuntu official packages03:00
stevenjjasoncohen, not sure...but it was the same thing on two installs...I did dist-upgrade and broke firefox with 1.0.403:01
bddebiandrew: Give me a sec03:01
drewbddebian, gladly, thanks for all the help :)03:01
naliothXhyldazhK: if you install the VESA driver, can you get the nvidia stuff sorted then?03:02
jasoncohenstevenj, strange- so you just went back to 1.0.2?03:02
stevenjjasoncohen, just reinstalled the whole thing ;)03:02
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jasoncohenii  firefox                   1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5   lightweight web browser based on Mozilla03:02
XhyldazhKnalioth: i surely have vesa driver... but its not accelerated03:02
jasoncohenstevenj, that was unnecessary03:02
naliothstevenj: and will be wary of backports, i take it03:02
stevenjjasoncohen, now I use the uni and multiuni and thats all03:03
bddebiandrew: Try this "sudo modprobe snd-ca0106"03:03
naliothXhyldazhK: i'm not saying use it forever, just to let you remove all the nvidia stuff and start over with it03:03
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, did you add some weird sources?03:03
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, show me your /etc/apt/sources.list file03:03
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drewbddebian, FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found.03:03
drewFATAL: Error running install command for snd_ca010603:03
sinfernocan anyone help me get 4 speakers working with a sblive value?03:03
naliothstevenj: there's nothing wrong with BP for individual proggys, as long as you comment them out when you get that proggy03:03
bddebiandrew: OK, check out this link then:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930703:04
XhyldazhKbrb in 5 seconds03:04
stevenjjasoncohen, I have no problems...besides I never noticed a difference in using the lastest apps...worked the same to me (gaim, gimp, etc.)03:04
naliothXhyldazhK: but don't show him in here, use a pastebin or #flood03:04
bddebiannalioth: BP?03:04
jasoncohennalioth, well, the problem with that is you get no security updates at all03:04
naliothbddebian: BP backports03:04
stevenjnalioth, maybe that was my problem...I got every update03:04
jasoncohenstevenj, i'm not advertising backports. i'm just wondering what caused your problem03:04
naliothbddebian: backports can cause trouble if left enabled in your sources.list03:04
naliothstevenj: i have no doubt that is what screwed you03:05
bddebianOhh03:05
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drewbddebian, ok, i'll work on that.03:05
jasoncohennalioth, hopefully things will get better with the official project03:05
XhyldazhKhi again03:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to compare the files from 2 of the same folders but on diffrent drives?03:05
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naliothjasoncohen: yes, the official blessing can only bring us closer to harmony03:05
XhyldazhKlet me paste my sources on some pastebin03:05
drewbddebian,  gimme a few03:05
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: are both drives mounted?03:05
bddebiandrew: NP03:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes03:05
btechi need help setting up my sound if theres anyone here who wants a shot03:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: the command "diff"03:06
jasoncohennalioth, the problem is that i still can't seem to find away to keep backports on my system without using all of it. my /etc/apt/preferences file allowed me to prefer ubuntu sources but then i couldn't install backports with -t hoary-backports03:06
Razor-Xthe creator of KPDF uses......... uses........ USES03:06
stevenjjasoncohen, the problem (once again) was firefox, it would not load, it gave an error when installing...it must be held back for a reason in BP, because you have to dist-upgrade03:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYok how would i use it?03:06
Razor-XMandrake!!!! nooooooooooooo!!!!!03:06
bddebianbtech: Whats the issue?03:06
naliothjasoncohen: i have BP in my sources.list, but its commented.03:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open a term and type "man diff"03:06
jasoncohenstevenj, yeah you do need to dist-upgrade03:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYk03:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you may wish to use it in a way we wouldnt suggest03:06
jasoncohenstevenj, it's using breezy's firefox which uses the firefox package - hoary uses mozilla-firefox03:06
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btechive got ubutu installed and if i play freecraft it has no sound?03:07
jasoncohenstevenj, so it has a new dependency- requiring the dist-upgrade03:07
btechare bzflag03:07
btechor03:07
jasoncohenstevenj, i bet you had some 1.0.2 firefox stuff and some 1.0.403:07
naliothjasoncohen: and i only enable the BP in my list, to get a pkg, and then i comment it back out03:07
ilmariis there a place where one can get old versions of packages from breezy (like snapshot.debian.net)?03:07
bddebianbtech: Do you get sound in anything?03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYno i had a backup folder of 32gigs on my desktop03:07
stevenjjasoncohen, yes and apparently I did not do something in the right order and it broke03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYand copyd them to a drive i just put in03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know some of the files whern't copyd03:07
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naliothbtech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:07
j_fletcheranyone know how to get that mac style menu  I see on screenshots?03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just wanted to know which ones03:07
SirGrokI just reinstalled ubuntu and my repositories are going REALLY slow (3000 B/s). Does anyone have an idea as to what to do?03:07
jasoncohennalioth, i tried to enable backports so that i could install selectively and get upgrades for backport packages without using all backport packages03:08
btechon the desktop and when it boots, just not on games that i guess run in x03:08
XhyldazhKhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/9N8yrY71.html <-- thats my sources.list... anyone sees any thing that can keep nvidia-glx broken?03:08
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naliothjasoncohen: i find me manually commenting/uncommenting works best for me. ymmv03:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYand nalioth what does that mean?03:08
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bddebianymmv == Your Mileage May Vary03:08
naliothj_fletcher: you mean the dock looking thing?03:08
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stevenjjasoncohen, I do need the multimedia codecs and totem-xine...I assume BP is the place to get it?03:08
jasoncohennalioth, it's easy to do in debian with testing/unstable but considerably harder in hoary because with debian there are only two versions that i was using (testing & unstable) + unstable is a higher version so you could apt-get upgrade both testing & unstable at the same time03:08
j_fletchernalioth: yes03:08
btech??03:09
naliothstevenj: no, you can get them from uni and multi03:09
UbuWuFor anyone on breezy here: my openoffice2beta just got upgraded to 1.9.113! Feels much faster and has a beautiful splash screen...03:09
Amaranthnalioth: Please don't stay in operator mode if you aren't using it.03:09
naliothAmaranth: Seveas did it03:09
jasoncohenstevenj, yes03:09
stevenjnalioth, nice..thanks!03:09
rekaSirGrok: is it just the repos or the net in general?03:09
naliothAmaranth: CS doensnt have me in the list yet03:09
j_fletchernalioth: you know how to get it?03:09
HuzzahItInstalleSo, I'm utterly new to linux, and apparently I need to create a symbolic link from /usr/x11R6/lib/libx11.so.6.2 to /usr/x11R6/lib/libx11.so ?03:09
Amaranthnalioth: Oh, you aren't in the access list?03:09
taomasterhello- new to this o/s - do u all know the link to check for updates ?03:09
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jasoncohenstevenj, totem-xine is in universe03:09
SirGrokreka, just the apt-get repositories....03:09
naliothj_fletcher: that is a superkaramba widget03:09
jasoncohenbut not all multimedia codecs are- w32codecs and libdvdcss2 are in hoary-extras03:09
j_fletcherthx03:09
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: what can be wrong with nvidia-glx?03:09
naliothAmaranth: Seveas opped me and ran03:10
stevenjjasoncohen, I dont think codecs are though? hmm03:10
j_fletchernalioth: thx03:10
Amaranthjdub: Can you add nalioth to the access list?03:10
rekaSirGrok: using mirrors or the defaults?03:10
SirGrokDefaults.03:10
naliothj_fletcher: and yes, kde apps run under gnome03:10
bddebiantaomaster: It should be already there unless you want/need universe and or multiverse03:10
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taomasteri did the apt-get03:10
taomasteris that it?03:10
bddebiantaomaster: You did apt-get update?03:11
rekaSirGrok: well, i'm using au mirrors, so i can't compare...but maybe the servers are just slow?03:11
SirGrokreka, where can I find mirros (if that is the solution)03:11
taomasteryes03:11
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you are using breezy main & restricted with hoary security & upgrades!!!03:11
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stevenjspeaking of multimedia-has anyone tried the firefox multimedia extensions..its kicks ass.03:11
naliothjasoncohen: WOW, no wonder03:11
ArkainiumWhat files, if anything, can I check to troubleshoot system lockups?03:11
stevenjextension I mean03:11
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: what can happen with that? is so bad?03:11
SirGrokreka, I have used the defaults all along and they have never gone this slow.03:11
jasoncohenyes- very03:11
naliothXhyldazhK: you'll have serious version discrepancys03:11
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, breey is unstable and your setup is even worse than pure breezy03:11
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jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you have some hoary & some breezy = BROKEN03:11
felixchupamelo03:11
XhyldazhKwhat should I do?03:12
naliothXhyldazhK: hope you can revert to hoary03:12
jasoncohenremove the breezy line03:12
jasoncohenand try manually re-installing the hoary packages03:12
jasoncohenyou're in over your head i think though03:12
XhyldazhKrevert to hoary? i can't upgrade to breezy milestone 1?03:12
Razor-Xwow..... an emacs user is having a hard time putting emacs in his own non-objective words....03:13
stevenjwhen you remove something in linux (or apt-get) does it leave things behind (like Windows) or completely uninstalls like it was never even installed?03:13
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SirGrokreka, where does one go abouts finding mirrors for ubuntu's apt-get?03:13
jasoncohenstevenj, apt-get remove leaves configuration files- apt-get remove --purge purges it03:13
rekaSirGrok: if you want to try the US mirrors, you can change all the urls to us.archive.ubuntu.com/*03:13
Amaranthstevenj: If you purge it is all goes away, except for files it put in your home dir03:13
bddebianstevenj: It depends on the package and/or the person who packaged it.03:13
rekain sources/list03:13
reka*sources.list03:13
jasoncohenso, what should XhyldazhK03:14
jasoncohenjust reinstall?03:14
stevenjthanks ... did not know about purge :)03:14
SirGrokreka, muchas gracias mi amor!!!03:14
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: i can't use breezy?03:14
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you can03:14
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Razor-XSirGrok: mmmm? je ne comprende pas, je ne parle pas espagnol03:14
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, um..you have hoary multiverse and breezy main restricted03:14
naliothXhyldazhK: breezy is broken03:15
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jasoncohenXhyldazhK, even worse- hoary multiverse & universe and breezy main & restricted03:15
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stevenjI cant wait until breezy is released03:15
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jasoncohenyou must be getting ridiculous conflicts03:15
IceDC571freddy_: Qt my ass03:15
XhyldazhKwhat should I have in my sources.list?03:15
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you should have all hoary, heh03:15
stevenjubuntu is soooo much better than FC or Mandrake..esp mandrake03:16
jasoncohencan he manually go back to hoary or is it not worth the trouble?03:16
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: but many new packages, like wesnoth latest, depend on breezy...03:16
stevenjI tried FC 4 and its a pain to setup right03:16
stevenjfor me anyway03:16
seth_kXhyldazhK, not if you use backports...03:16
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, that's what backports are for03:16
goldfishfc is satain03:16
XhyldazhKseth_k: what is backports?03:16
XhyldazhKplease explain me about backports...03:17
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, ually go back to hoary or is it not worth the trouble?03:17
jasoncohenxhaker, the safe(r) way to use newer packages03:17
seth_kXhyldazhK (man that's hard to type): see http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/03:17
naliothXhyldazhK: backports are programs from breezy, BackPorted to hoary03:17
stevenjhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/03:17
jasoncohenand backport-extras has a few apps but mostly multimedia plugins not available in breezy or hoary due to licensing restrictions03:17
jasoncohensorry- hoary-extras03:17
XhyldazhKaaaahhh so I use hoary + backports and it's like a transitional step to breezy03:17
Razor-Xname to me a use of emacs other than text editing03:18
Razor-Xsomething emacs cando03:18
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, it's hoary with updated apps- most of your system stays as hoary03:18
XhyldazhKso i should be hoary + hary-backports03:18
seth_kindeed03:18
Razor-X(odd that I can't think of any at the moment)03:18
Razor-X*can do03:18
seth_kyou get all the stability of Hoary03:18
seth_kwith new apps from Breezy03:18
drewbddebian,  whta does the ls command do?03:18
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, yes- but your situation now isn't great03:18
bddebiandrew: It is like dir03:18
Razor-XI already wrote about terminal, and IRC03:18
seth_kdrew, ls is like "dir" in MS-DOS03:18
seth_kbah, beaten03:18
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: what can I do now?03:18
drewbddebian, because  cd .. && ls *.deb is taking a while03:18
bddebiandrew: It's short for list I think03:18
rekaRazor-X: web browse03:18
drewbddebian,  is it worth watching it all list or can I move on?03:18
Razor-Xreka: ahhh, there we go03:18
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, either manually downgrade all your packages to hoary and then add backports OR reinstall (much easier)03:19
stevenjstill I just dont see any difference in the new packages bp offers...03:19
rekaRazor-X: i think it can play mp3s as well, but it might do that through xmms03:19
drewbddebian, nvm, it's done.03:19
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: reinstalling is not easier...03:19
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you've never downgraded an entire system before...03:19
Razor-Xreka: I'ld just open an emacs terminal and run cplay, meself ;)03:19
rekaRazor-X: i'm actually a vim user :)03:19
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: at least downgrading i don't lost all my user data03:19
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Razor-Xreka: I used to be one ;)03:20
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SirGrokreka, I hate to be a bother, but I can not seem to get this working... could you e-mail me your sources.list file?03:20
bddebiannano r00lz03:20
Razor-Xbddebian: stay back, fiend03:20
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jasoncohenXhyldazhK, start up synaptic, go to status > installed03:20
bddebianmwuhahaha03:20
Wegghello03:20
rekaSirGrok: pm OK?03:20
bddebianHello weedar03:20
nalioths_dogSirGrok: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:20
bddebianErr Wegg03:20
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, and force all breezy packages back to hoary03:20
rekanalioth: he wants US mirrors.03:20
WeggIs there a tool that lets me add/format/mount a second hard drive to my Ubuntu install?03:21
naliothreka: alrighty then03:21
bddebianWegg: Uhm mount?03:21
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you'll probably have to start with base packages- otherwise it'll complain that others can't be downgraded03:21
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jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you have to understand- apt-get is setup to upgrade packages- not downgrade03:21
seth_kit's so hard to downgrade03:21
Weggdoes that mount the drive for good?  Like. . . for every time I re-start the machine?03:21
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jasoncohenWegg, apt-get install gparted - it's a nice partitioning tool03:21
seth_kyou're almost assuredly better off reinstalling03:21
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Wegggparted?03:22
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: what is the default distribution of hoary-backports?03:22
Weggok03:22
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, if it was just KDE or something i would tell you to downgrade manually03:22
jasoncohenbut your entire system is basically breezy03:22
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, hoary?03:22
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jasoncohenXhyldazhK, hence the hoary..backports03:22
Mobiushow can I find out information about my kernel?>03:22
XhyldazhKit's not hoary-backports or something alike?03:22
bddebianMobius: What type of information?03:22
jasoncohenpackages from breezy for hoary03:23
naliothWegg: gparted, qtparted are both frontends for parted03:23
Weggwhats the most noob proof?03:23
jasoncohenWegg, yeah, i think gparted will add a line in fstab for you so it'll be mounted on boot03:23
Mobiusbddebian : I am trying to see if its 386 or 686 or.. something (i am pretty new to this stuff =/)03:23
g23Is there a way to load openoffice.org2-base03:23
bddebianMobius: Get to a termina and do "sudo uname -a"03:23
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: so now that i'm on breezy... i'm damned to be broken forever?03:24
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, no- it'll be ok when you get closer to breezy release date03:24
kalolo...03:24
XhyldazhKso I will be broken until october?03:24
bddebianMobius: Sorry, you don't need sudo for a uname -a03:24
jasoncohenyou shouldn't upgrade to the development version until most of the active development is done03:24
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, no- not that long03:25
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, by september or august most of the work will be done and it'll be in a partial freeze03:25
WeggI can't find qparted in the Synaptic Package Manager03:25
Mobiusthats okay, bddebian - it says 2.6.10-5-386 but to the right it has i686..03:25
seth_kXhyldazhK, you're broken? I'm running Breezy and doing fine. If you have upgraded to breezy, take all hoary sources out of your list and add all the breezy sources03:25
seth_kWegg, qtparted or gparted. No such thing as qparted03:25
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stevenjI wonder why multimedia codecs and (mp3 support) is not in universe or multiverse?03:25
jasoncohenWegg, you need to add universe - and it's qtparted03:25
bddebianMobius: That doesn't necessarily mean that you have a kernel built for 68603:25
jasoncohenstevenj, licensing issues03:25
Razor-Xhmmmm....03:25
Wegguniverse?03:25
Razor-Xwhat came first?03:25
Mobiushow do I know which I want bddebian03:26
Razor-Xemacs or BASH?03:26
jasoncohenseth_k, i wouldn't recommend that03:26
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jasoncohenseth_k, unless he doesn't mind have his system break03:26
XhyldazhKseth_k: which accel card do u have?03:26
bddebianMobius: Are you using a native Ubuntu install?03:26
stevenjjasoncohen, i see03:26
seth_kjasoncohen, if he's already gone halfway, he should go all the way03:26
Mobiusbrand new bddebian03:26
naliothstevenj: mp3 not in uni and multi?03:26
Razor-Xhah, i'm guessing no-one here knows ;)03:26
seth_kjasoncohen, less trouble03:26
jasoncohenbreezy is not ready to be used yet03:26
seth_kXhyldazhK, video card?03:26
rekaRazor-X: is this a chicken/egg question?03:26
jasoncohenseth_k, i agree- a full breezy system is better than what he has now03:26
reka:)03:26
jasoncohenbut if he expects it to stable he's mistaken03:26
stevenjnalioth, not sure..is it? what is it called?03:26
seth_kindeed03:26
XhyldazhKseth_k: yes03:26
g23openoffice.org-base is not in universe or multiverse... in Debian experimental though...03:27
seth_kjasoncohen, i've been running it since Hoary+1 with little trouble. Now that the Cxx transition is done, it's quite stable03:27
nalioths_dogstevenj: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support03:27
Razor-Xreka: actually, it isn't ;)03:27
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HuzzahItInstalleDoes anyone know what version of libgtk is included in Hoary?03:27
seth_kXhyldazhK, I run Breezy on two systems. One has a GeForce Ti4400, the other a Radeon 900003:27
jasoncohenWegg, read this about adding repositories - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto03:27
stevenjnalioths_dog, ok thanks03:27
Weggthanks Jasoncohen03:27
XhyldazhKseth_k: how did you managed the nvidia-glx conflict?03:27
ilmariHuzzahItInstalle: http://packages.ubuntu.com/libgtk2.0-003:27
Razor-XI need to know whether emacs controls were influenced from the controls of BASH (or SH) or was it the other way 'round03:27
ilmariHuzzahItInstalle: 2.4.10-1ubuntu1.103:28
seth_kXhyldazhK, i'm running without nvidia drivers right now03:28
jasoncohenWegg, before you do that- read this03:28
jasoncohenWegg, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components03:28
HuzzahItInstalleThat's ilmari03:28
HuzzahItInstalleer, Thanks03:28
Mobiusbddebian, what did you mean by native03:28
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, easy- he has breezy03:28
ilmariHuzzahItInstalle: uh, that was warty, hoary has 2.6.4-0ubuntu303:28
bddebianMobius: I mean you didn't build your own kernel?03:28
ilmariHuzzahItInstalle: packages.ubuntu.com is really handy03:28
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, your problem is due to mixing breezy and hoary- it'll be fixed if you remove your hoary entries and add universe & multiverse for breezy03:28
Mobiusbddebian: I just reinstalled ubuntu on my laptop - Ive been trying to get the sound to work03:28
Mobius=/03:28
XhyldazhKseth_k: hmm... I do 3d modelling on my box03:28
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Razor-Xhmmmm....03:29
HuzzahItInstalleAny idea why this program (Kylix) at install would inform me that "Libgtk version >= 1.2.0...FAILED" ?03:29
Razor-XI'm thinking emacs AND vi preceded BASH03:29
seth_kyou compiling, Huzzah?03:29
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bddebianMobius: Anyway, you can look at this from a terminal:  "apt-cache search linux-image-2.6"03:29
seth_kit probably can't find the right path, Huzzah03:29
naliothMobius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:29
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HuzzahItInstalleHopefully will be03:29
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r0dtrying to get wireless card to see dhcp . have the essid, mode, and wepkey correct. i run a 'dhclient ath0' and no dice03:29
XhyldazhKseth_k: so you use the drivers directly from nvidia?03:29
g23Does anyone know a way to load openoffice.org2-base (Database program)03:29
Amaranthnalioth: ping me or whatever when it's needed03:29
bddebianMobius: Are you just trying to upgrade your kernel just to fix a sound issue?03:30
Amaranthnalioth: and i'll put it back when i leave03:30
Mobiusits worse then that nalioth03:30
eric__hey everyone, I just installed ubuntu today and I dont remember being asked for a root password, now I cannot login as root, is the anyway to find out the password?03:30
naliothAmaranth: np03:30
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stevenjnalioths_dog, ok thanks what I needed ta know03:30
seth_kXhyldazhK, yeah, Breezy isn't for you right now... no, I use the included drivers right now, which give me < 200 fps with my Ti4400 (3000 fps usually with the drivers)03:30
bddebianeric__: There isn't one03:30
bwlang_eric__: you don't use root in ubuntu... you use sudo03:30
Mobiusbddebian: I just remember last install I tried working on it my friend had me get 686 stuff I think03:30
nalioths_dogeric__: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:30
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seth_ks/the drivers/the glx drivers03:30
rekaRazor-X: wikipedia time i think :)03:30
XhyldazhKseth_k: which included drivers?03:30
eric__I see03:30
Razor-Xreka: well, i'm pretty sure it's so03:30
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you probably have xlibmesa-glu installed from hoary03:30
seth_kjasoncohen, I think it gets conflicted out03:31
Razor-Xbecause a "property of the Bourne family of shells" is that "you can have vi or emacs editor binds"03:31
internatok well im having problems with my sound, i just inistalled kubuntu, the module is apparently loaded snd_emu10k1x           18084  0.. but i still have no sound.. anyone? no one in #kubuntu knows anything, nor is anyone in #alsa awake..03:31
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: no I dont... it was uninstalled in the upgrade to breezy, it got replaced with the xorg's glu03:31
naliothok y'all, the customers callin03:31
jasoncohenok, so what's the problem when you try to install nvidia-glx?03:31
rekaRazor-X: is this homework or something?03:31
seth_kXhyldazhK, the "nv" driver as opposed to the "nvidia" driver03:31
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seth_kjasoncohen, it's broken right now with deps03:31
XhyldazhKnvidia-glx needs xlibmesa-glu03:31
jasoncohenseth_k, ah, so it's broken in breezy03:31
XenguyLongshot question: I'm trying to install a Citrix client on Ubuntu, but so far I have not been successful - has anyone here done this successfully by any chance?03:32
Razor-Xreka: a guide for the good of the Linux community03:32
HuzzahItInstalleseth_k , if you're thinking it can't find the directory, what would be your suggestion?03:32
seth_kjasoncohen, depends on xlibmesa-glu but xlibmesa-glu is now called libmesa-glu1 i think03:32
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, so use nv03:32
seth_kbut he does 3d modelling03:32
seth_kso meh03:32
jasoncohenuntil it's fixed in breezy03:32
seth_khe's stuck for a bit03:32
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XhyldazhKso i should forget nvidia and use nv... which acceleration do nv provide?03:32
jasoncohenit's currrently broken according to seth_k03:32
seth_knone :D03:32
leitao_i know there is a package that says how much another package is beeing used. how is this package name?03:32
XhyldazhKit's easy to uninstall the official nvidia driver?03:32
seth_kHuzzahItInstalle, there is probably a path flag you have to set03:32
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you can install hoary and have a stable system with nvidia acceleration or use nv in breezy until it's fixed and things WILL break in the future03:33
XhyldazhK(i mean, in its pristine form, not as a deb)03:33
TraceDoes anyone know how to see mother board type in Linux?03:33
jasoncohenthat's just what happens in a development branch03:33
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seth_kXhyldazhK, jasoncohen is 100% correct03:33
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seth_keither reinstall fresh Hoary, or wait it out03:33
seth_kimo < 2 weeks03:33
AmaranthXhyldazhK: Just as hard as anything else you compile from source.03:33
drewbddebian, I followed the site.. but sound still isn't working:-/03:33
XhyldazhKthere is a third dirty way03:33
jasoncohenyeah...downgrading to hoary03:33
XhyldazhKAmaranth: I can compile the nvidia driver?03:33
AmaranthXhyldazhK: Yeah.03:33
XhyldazhKnope... installing the driver from its script directly from nvidia.com03:34
jasoncohenis anyone here skilled in apt pinning?03:34
AmaranthXhyldazhK: It compiles a kernel module.03:34
XhyldazhKand forgetting ugly deb nvidia-glx03:34
Amaranththe deb isn't ugly03:34
jasoncoheni still can't figure out what pins i need to selectively install from backports03:34
Amaranthrunning that script is ugly03:34
jasoncohenbased on version- not packages03:34
Amaranthpin backports lower than regular repos03:34
Amaranththen you have to actually choose to install the one from backports03:35
Mobiusbddebian : http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True03:35
eric__I created a directory /usr/java to install the java runtime, I am trying to move a file from my home folder and am being told I dont have the permission to write to the folder03:35
leitao_anyone knows the package that measure the others package usage?03:35
jasoncohenAmaranth, i tried- it gave priority to ubuntu packages but then i couldn't install backport packages with apt-get install -t hoary-backports packagename03:35
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XhyldazhKAmaranth: so if I source compile (apt-get source --compile nvidia-glx) I will have a non conflicting deb?03:35
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Weggputer locked up.  :-/03:36
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, no- the problem is that the package is in a state of flux03:36
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, it changed dependencies and one of its dependencies isn't available yet03:36
stevenjlast question: should I use XMMS or Beep-MP?03:36
WeggSo what was the name of that partitioning/mounting tool Jason?03:36
XhyldazhKI cannot hack the deb to doesn't depend on anything?03:36
jasoncohenWegg, gparted03:36
jasoncohenit's in universe03:36
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bddebianMobius: You are trying to get a wireless card working?03:36
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Mobiusbddebian: sound card on a laptop03:37
Weggthanks03:37
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HackmoHey all, can anyone help me with wormux?03:37
Hackmoit's keeps freezing when it gets so far03:37
jasoncohenAmaranth, here's my /etc/apt/preferences file - http://pastebin.ca/1700303:37
rekastevenj: bmp!03:37
Amaranthjasoncohen: I know next to nothing about pinning03:37
jasoncohenheh, pinning was so much easier in debian with simple versions03:38
XhyldazhKAmaranth: I cannot hack the deb to doesn't depend on anything?03:38
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AmaranthXhyldazhK: No, you need linux-restricted-modules03:38
bddebianMobius: Did you try the link that nalioth posted?03:38
jasoncohenjust had to add a line to make testing the default version in /etc/apt/apt.conf03:38
AmaranthXhyldazhK: They're working on it.03:38
drewbddebian, any ideas?03:38
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, this is why you don't use a development branch if you don't want things to break. wait it out or use hoary03:38
Mobiusbddebian: yeap, that is for specific programs..03:38
Mobiusnot what I need03:38
XhyldazhKAmaranth: why do I need that? that installed fine and is not conflicting...03:39
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, tomorrow, something else could break03:39
stevenjreka, yes it looks better, I dont use extra xmms plugins anyway03:39
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you don't- it's most likely already installed03:39
AmaranthXhyldazhK: You need linux-restricted-modules 2.6.1203:39
rekastevenj: i might be wrong...but you could probably use xmms plugins with it too.03:39
WeggYou can only run gparted as root. . . so. . . how do I become root?03:39
stevenjreka, read that it does'nt work with "some" not sure which03:39
drewcan anyone help me get ca0106 driver set up for my soundblaster live!?03:40
stevenjmaybe clock03:40
jasoncohenAmaranth, wouldn't it have already upgraded it for you?03:40
bddebiandrew: Did you get an error?03:40
jasoncohenAmaranth, he has a main & restricted breezy source03:40
dreweverything worke03:40
drewd03:40
drewbut still no sound.03:40
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted-modules03:40
WeggOoo never mind I got it03:40
cyphasehey everyone03:40
drewI can modprobe or whatever still03:40
Amaranthjasoncohen: It doesn't exist.03:40
bddebiandrew: and an lsmod shows it installed?03:40
eric__anyone: how do I access files that require me to be the 'owner' is there another login or something?03:41
drewbddebian, what do you want me to type?03:41
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: I don't have the 2.6.12, my linux-restricted-modules is 2.6.10... what should i do?03:41
drewbddebian, when I type lsmod, it shows up.03:41
jasoncohenAmaranth, ah03:41
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, wait- like Amaranth says03:42
jasoncohen...or use hoary03:42
jasoncohenit's up to you03:42
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XhyldazhKi cannot go back to hoary because that means to erase my entire disk03:42
jasoncohenbut from what you've said it doesn't sound like you're willing to use a development version03:42
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, no it doesn't03:42
Mobiusbddebian: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36870&page=1&pp=10&highlight=realtek+sound03:42
XhyldazhKall my apps and config files and my home dir03:42
cafuegoXhyldazhK: Yeah, you should have thought of that BEFORE installing breezy eh?03:42
tiglionabbityo, I don't know much about customizing, but what's a really quiet fan I can put in?03:42
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you don't have to format /home03:43
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, that's the reason you (i hope) created a seperate /home partition03:43
bddebiandrew: Did you reboot?03:43
AmaranthXhyldazhK: If you need accelerated 3d drivers _right now_, go back to hoary.03:43
XhyldazhKjasoncohen: I have all in the same partition03:43
AmaranthXhyldazhK: ah, then you're screwed03:43
drewbddebian, no, should I?03:43
XhyldazhKnah I'm not screwed, i will use the ugly nvidia script03:43
AmaranthXhyldazhK: There is a reason ubuntu puts /home on a seperate partition :)03:43
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cafuegoXhyldazhK: Of course, you could use 'equivs' to create a virtual libglu1 package and satisfy the depends that way, but don't even try if you don't know how or why.03:43
tiglionabbitAmaranth: that so?  I don't have a /home partition03:44
drewbddebian, wait, I think I heard something03:44
XhyldazhKcafuego: that sounds interesting...03:44
cafuegoXhyldazhK: That was the wrong response03:44
rekaAmaranth: me neither03:44
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XhyldazhKcafuego... what is equivs?03:44
Amaranthtiglionabbit: It tries to do it anyway, unless you did the partitioning on your own.03:44
drewyay!03:44
drewI have sound:)03:44
drewthank you bddebian :)03:44
cafuegoXhyldazhK: A nice way for you to break the system even more.03:44
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: I had a blank HD and let it setup everything on it's own.03:45
cafuegoXhyldazhK: just go back to hoary.03:45
bddebiandrew: Cool, congrats :-)03:45
tiglionabbitAmaranth: I did.  heh, I didn't realize it was recommended.  But this whole install is in just 10gigs, so..   I could always resize my other partitions and move my files03:45
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, you're over your head. you shouldn't be using a development distro. you should backup your files and go back to hoary03:45
Amaranthhehe, he will anyway03:45
XhyldazhKmy system is not broken, the only thing broken in my beautiful breezy milestone 1 is nvidia-glx, and only because it belongs to hoary03:45
Amaranthwhen X breaks tomorrow03:45
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, or you could try to do a manual downgrade- but backup first03:45
jasoncohenyou have nothing to lose03:45
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cafuegoXhyldazhK: Breezy is like debian Sid. if you don't know how to fix issues on your own, stay away from it.03:46
jasoncohenAmaranth, why is X breaking tomorrow?03:46
bddebianOr build it all from source.. :-)03:46
cafuegoXhyldazhK: it's not "cool to run it coz the version numbers are higher"03:46
jasoncohencafuego, breezy is worse than debian sid.03:46
XhyldazhKthere are 2 ways for me, one is 'equivs' the another is to get the ugly nvidia installer03:46
jasoncohencafuego, with, sid you can get along OK if you are careful about dist-upgrade'ing usually03:46
XhyldazhKcafuego, if equivs means to make an installed package to artificially satisfy a missing dependence, that is what I need03:46
Amaranthjasoncohen: X in breezy breaks at least once every other day03:46
drewbddebian,  it says something else is using /dev/something and it can't play.03:47
tiglionabbitthe nvidia installer worked for me on debian.  Is there some reason it is so horribly ugly to you guys in ubuntu?03:47
cafuegojasoncohen: Except for that time when pam broke ;-)03:47
jasoncohenthough gnome and alsa broke within a few days for me after gnome 2.10 was added and then it was fixed in a few days03:47
tiglionabbitI have not installed ubuntu on a machine with nvidia yet03:47
Amaranthjasoncohen: sid is about to go through all the same stuff breezy is03:47
bddebiandrew: /dev/dsp?03:47
jasoncohenAmaranth, lol03:47
cafuegoXhyldazhK: equivs means checking documentation.03:47
Amaranthjasoncohen: But with debian there are people who own packages, so it'll probably take longer03:47
jasoncohenown packages?03:47
bddebiandrew: What are you trying to play with?03:47
drewxmms03:47
drewtotem03:47
drewanything.03:47
drewgaim has sounds.03:47
jasoncohenyou mean they have many more maintainers- something like 1400 i think03:47
drewand the system makes noises when I click stuff etc.03:48
Amaranthjasoncohen: In debian every package has a maintainer, only that maintainer does things with that package.03:48
jasoncohenAmaranth, yeah, i know. i was confused by what you meant by "owned"03:48
Amaranthjasoncohen: In ubuntu no one owns any package, all the developers can work on whatever package needs fixing.03:48
jasoncohenAmaranth, i use debian sarge on my server and i used etch & then sid on my laptop03:48
drewbddebian,  OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program."03:48
Burritodoes anybody knows how to unistall a desktop?03:49
Amaranthbrb, trying to use xchat03:49
Burritolike kde03:49
bddebiandrew: Ahh03:49
drewbddebian,  I got it03:49
bddebiandrew: Did you look at ... NeverMind :-)03:49
drewbddebian,  but the sound sounds very fuzzy03:49
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, so, what are you going to do?03:49
drewI'm using esd plugin.03:50
XhyldazhK'However, if equivalent functionality to P is known to be installed, this tool can be used to trick the Debian package management system into believing that package P is actually installed.'03:50
bddebiandrew: Good job man, sound is one of the biggest PITAs in GNU/Linux IMHO03:50
XhyldazhKEquivs!03:50
drewbddebian,  yeah, somethings up.:-/03:50
tiglionabbithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063  <-- sound?03:50
bddebiandrew: Also check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary if you haven't already03:51
Weggjasoncohen it looks like this disk had a (read-only file system) on it.  So I can't do anything with it.  Is there any way to wipe it?03:51
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jasoncohenWegg, what file system?03:51
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ray_how do i upgrade to the i686 kernel?03:52
reka'nother sound thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656703:52
jasoncohenWegg, just because it's read only doesn't mean you can't format it03:52
crimsunray_: install it. aptitude install linux-68603:52
Weggext303:52
bddebianray_: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-xxx"03:52
WeggI'm trying to re-format it and it is spitting errors at me.03:52
jasoncohenWegg, read-only ext3? you sure it's not just mounted read-only?03:52
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ray_thanks guys03:52
WeggI'm not sure of anything03:52
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bddebiannalioth_wrkn, et al: Is there a wiki page for apt magic?03:53
jasoncohenWegg, why are you reformatting?03:53
WeggI can see the disk. . . I select it and try and delete the partitions and it says "Error: Unable to open /dev/hdb - unrecognised disk label.03:53
cafuegoMuahaha03:53
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jasoncohenWegg, paste your /etc/fstab in pastebin03:53
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Weggwhats pastebin?03:54
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rekaWegg: a dumping ground: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:54
jasoncohenWegg, you paste text on a website and give the link in IRC -  www.pastebin.ca03:54
jasoncohenor that03:54
Weggcool03:55
jasoncohenrather than flooding the channel03:55
jasoncohenXhyldazhK, what did you decide to do?03:55
twb_Linux is so complicated03:55
bddebiannalioth_wrkn: NM, I found it :-)03:56
jasoncohentwb_, why is that?03:56
TraceHello, Does anyone know how to get info of motherboard in Linux?03:56
bddebiantwb_: Yeah, why is that? :-)03:56
bddebianTrace: What type of info?03:56
twb_haha, two peaople said the same hing to me..03:56
Wegghttp://pastebin.ca/1700403:56
twb_it's jst different, i can't seem to get anything to work03:56
rekahmm, seeing as i didn't make a seperate /home partition, could i just copy my /home/<usrname> directory to backup?  (i used to tarball everything before and then redo configs)03:56
bddebiantwb_: Sounds just like Windows ;-)03:57
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Tracefor example, lspci can get video, sound info, i want to get info of my motherboard such as type, etc03:57
twb_why won't it run .exe files?03:57
bddebiantwb_: It will run executables, they just don't have to have a .exe extension. :-)03:57
Amarantharg, xchat is so slow on windows03:57
jasoncohenWegg, so, what's the partition that's mounted read only?03:57
twb_ehhhh, what does that mean03:58
rekaAmaranth: why are you using it on windows?03:58
twb_for example, i can't get Limewire or Ventrilo to run..03:58
bddebianTrace: You won't get the motherboard "Make" from anything if thatis what you mean03:58
Amaranthreka: My linux machine doesn't have a modem03:58
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twb_i'd just like to listen to some tunes03:58
jasoncohendo the sound problems only arise on some systems?03:58
jasoncoheni didn't get sound issues on either of my ubuntu installs03:58
bddebiantwb_: I mean files can be executable without having to have the filename.exe naming convention03:58
bddebianAmaranth: I find xchat on Windows pretty quick actually03:59
Wegg/dev/hda103:59
TraceSo, if i want to get info of motherboard, the only way is open my box, is that right?03:59
jasoncohentwb_, try this- http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly03:59
Amaranthbddebian: Not compared to mIRC. I'm on a 200Mhz with 64MB of RAM that has to run AOL.03:59
Weggactually I don't know03:59
remyforbes777trace: is this a retail computer03:59
drewbddebian,  grrr, it's still all fuzzy03:59
Traceor, can i get any info of motherboard in Linux? any :-D04:00
bddebianTrace: You might be able to get chipset type information from lspci or /proc but it won't say "Intel DE815"04:00
WeggI don't get whats going on.04:00
jasoncohenWegg, type mount04:00
rekaAmaranth: hydrairc is OK if you want an alternative.04:00
jasoncohenand paste the line for /04:00
twb_has anyone gotten Liewire or Ventrilo to run properly on Ubuntu?04:00
remyforbes777trace: you can probably get the specs from the manufacturers website04:00
Traceyes, remyforbes77704:00
jasoncohenWegg, it should be rw,errors=remount-ro04:00
remyforbes777trace: what type of computer04:00
remyforbes777trace: go to their website04:00
XhyldazhKtwb_: why don't use gtk-gnutella?04:00
Razor-Xi'm a gonna have to give up screen... :(04:00
Traceok, thx04:01
jasoncohentwb_, ubuntuguide has instructions for installing limewire04:01
WeggShould I just re-install ubuntu?04:01
Razor-Xat least, my screen muscle-memory :(04:01
jasoncohenWegg, no- tell me what mount shows for /04:01
drewcan anyone help me w/ my sound?04:01
jasoncohenWegg, and explain the problem04:01
Wegg/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors-remount-ro)04:01
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jasoncohenWegg, so it should be read-write04:01
bddebiandrew: Still in all applications?04:01
Wegghow do I change it?04:02
jasoncohenWegg, what's the problem and what are you trying to do?04:02
drewyeah.04:02
drewtotem and xmms at least04:02
twb_i've tries gtk, but it is amazingly slow04:02
WeggI am trying to mount this second hard drive as my /home04:02
drewthe other ones the sound effects aren't loud enough to tell04:02
WeggI wish I could just format the bugger and mount it but it isn't letting me.04:02
jasoncohenWegg, so, what does that have to do with /dev/hda1 (your root partition)?04:02
rekadrew: installed totem-xine and gstreamer0.8-mad?04:03
WeggI guess nothing04:03
crimsundrew: what's the problem?04:03
WeggI have two hard drives.04:03
drewmy sound is all fuzzy04:03
jasoncohenWegg, so, you want to format the partition and use it as your /home ?04:03
drewI just set it up04:03
drewgaim seems to make good sound effects04:03
jasoncohenWegg, don't you have a /home now?04:03
drewreka, I installed gstreamer0.8-mad04:03
WeggI do have a /home now but it is on a small disk and I'd like to use my "home" as a samba share.04:03
crimsundrew: cat /proc/asound/modules04:03
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drewcrimsun,  type that in terminal?04:03
crimsunyep04:04
WeggI have two disks on this system.  /dev/hda and /dev/hdc04:04
drew0 snd_ca010604:04
Wegghdc is the bigger one.04:04
drewcrimsun, 0 snd_ca010604:04
WeggI can't seem to format / remount it.04:04
crimsunugh. audigy ls? sblive "24-bit" or 7.1?04:04
crimsunthose cards are horrible.04:04
goldfishanyone good at bash scripting? #bash os dead atm :/04:04
drew24-bit04:04
drewI know.04:04
crimsunare you using alsa-driver 1.0.9b?04:04
bddebiangoldfish: Just put it out there and see if anyone knows04:04
goldfishk04:05
drewcrimsun, how could I check.04:05
drew?04:05
jasoncohenWegg, so, you're not trying to replace /home- you just want to add the new drive to access the files?04:05
crimsundrew: contents of /proc/asound/version04:05
goldfish>> appends to the end of a file, can u add stuff to the beginning of files?04:05
WeggI'd like /home to be this new bigger drive04:06
drewpermission denied, crimsun04:06
WeggSo when/if I move it to another machine I can just mount it as /home and go from there.04:06
crimsundrew: cat04:06
crimsun(don't paste here)04:06
drew1.0.804:07
ahuman01what package do i have to install to get the dictionary 'words' file ?04:07
jasoncohenWegg, is anything on the drive currently?04:07
drewcrimsun,  1.0.804:07
bddebianahuman01: You mean dict?04:07
jasoncohenWegg, if not you can just partition it as ext3 and mount it as /home but first you'll need to move /home ot /home_backup or something04:07
crimsundrew: what happens when you use alsa directly instead of using esound?04:07
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jasoncohenand then you can copy the files over04:07
drewcrimsun,  how do I do that exactly?04:08
Weggok.04:08
lsuactiafnerhow do i make q3a use alsa?04:08
ahuman01bddebian,  yea /usr/share/dict/words04:08
WeggI can't partition it jason.04:08
bddebiangoldfish: I'm looking04:08
crimsundrew: System>Preferences>Sound>uncheck Enable sound server startup04:08
jasoncohenWegg, if you don't care what's on there currently, just format it (it's not mounted)04:08
WeggGParted is spitting out errors saying it is read only.04:08
crimsundrew: then, System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default Audio Sink>ALSA04:08
ahuman01bddebian,  there is a link in /usr/share/dict/ called words but it points to nothing04:08
drewcrimsun, it plays the song reallllly fast.04:09
crimsundrew: what does?04:09
drewcrimsun, wait, not fast.04:09
drewcrimsun, xmms stutters while playing it.04:09
jasoncohenWegg: what do you have on there currently? it's unmounted but read-only? are you running gparted as root?04:09
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crimsundrew: did you tell xmms to use the alsa output?04:09
drewcrimsun, yes...04:10
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drewcrimsun, but now I put it in oss and it's happy04:10
crimsundrew: did you tell alsa to use plughw:0,0 ?04:10
drewcrimsun, and the song's good:)04:10
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Weggyes I am running gparted as root and no I don't care about what is on the drive.04:10
drewcrimsun, so I think I'm good04:10
bddebianahuman01: That is just a symbolic link to the dictionary file04:10
Hackmocan someone help me with this problem?04:10
crimsundrew: avoid using oss directly, as it ties up the sync chain04:10
HuzzahItInstalleHas anyone been successful in installing Kylix to Ubuntu 5.04?04:10
bddebianHackmo: Just ask the question and we will try04:10
HackmoI download battle of survival using synaptic and have no idea how to start it04:10
crimsundrew: try using plughw:0,0 with the alsa output04:11
drewcrimsun, so how do I tell alsa to use that pluging?04:11
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crimsundrew: type it in to the device drop-down list04:11
jasoncohenWegg, then i don't understand why it's saying it's read only04:11
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drewcrimsun, it stutters again.04:11
ahuman01bddebian, i know ... the link poinst to /etc/dictionaries-common/words , which dosent exist, so how do i get it there ?04:11
bddebianHackmo: It doesn't show up in Gnome?04:11
jasoncohenWegg, what does gparted say about the drive..what options do you have?04:11
crimsundrew: with plughw:0,0 ?04:11
parkbenchHello, another ubuntu-newbie here...it says just ask the question but it seems theres a deluge of questions so anyone willing to help me, i would appreciate it...thanks04:11
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drewcrimsun, hw:0,004:12
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bddebianahuman01: Did you install dict?04:12
drewcrimsun, that's what I have under audio device04:12
crimsundrew: no, not hw:0,0 but plughw:0,004:12
siimowhats the end date for warty support04:12
Hackmobddebian: no, I looked for it in Applications > games but it wasn't there04:12
drewcrimsun, ok.04:12
bddebianparkbench: Shoot04:12
crimsundrew: you have to read my instructions carefully04:12
WeggI can pick "delete" and apply but it spits out errors.04:12
rekaparkbench: ask away!  that's what we're in here for. :)04:12
drewcrimsun, sorry04:12
WeggI'm just going to start over.04:12
Weggre-install with the partition tool in the installer.04:12
WeggThanks for your help.04:12
bddebianHackmo: What is the package name and I'll try it04:12
ahuman01bddebian, yup04:12
rekaHackmo: right-click -> properties -> installed files04:13
drewcrimsun,  still stuttering.04:13
ravnAll right! That was the easiest install ever.. Man i never thought linux would get so easy04:13
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rekaHackmo: then look for /bin/*04:13
Hackmobddebian: it's called bos04:13
crimsundrew: is mmap enabled?04:13
ravnDebian was a bit more complicated..04:13
Hackmoreka: ok thanks' i'll look now04:13
rekaHackmo: or something that has "bin" in it04:13
drewcrimsun, how do I check?04:13
rekathe path that is04:13
crimsundrew: look in the alsa options for xmms...04:13
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drewyeah, it is.04:14
drewI think, the box is sunk in.04:14
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twb_is there a command to shut down the PC?04:14
seth_ksudo shutdown now04:14
crimsundrew: then you can try using the oss output04:14
bddebianahuman01: What happens if you go to a terminal and run "dict hello" ?04:14
HuzzahItInstalleHas anyone successfully installing Kylix 3 on Ubuntu 5.04?  Thank you very much.04:14
drewwell, we know that oss output works04:14
crimsundrew: it may not work with multiple sounds, though, depending on your hardware.04:14
parkbenchalright. well, i installed ubuntu. no problems there. but i'm using a wireless adapter--i've been reading up all day on this and i only have isolated facts...i have a WUSB 12 802.11b linksys...so after a while of troubles and permissions, i'm following the guide, and eventually i get to root terminal...eventually i get synaptic to work...i finally am able to install the ndiswrapper package. however here's where it gets sketchy...first, 04:14
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siimowhats the end date for warty support04:15
drewcrimsun, ok thanks.04:15
drewcrimsun, any idea how to make it play through all 5 speakers?04:15
rekasiimo: 18mths from release iirc04:15
crimsundrew: use plug:surround5104:15
rekanot certain though04:15
drewcrimsun, where do I type that?04:15
crimsundrew: the same place you typed plughw:0,004:16
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bddebiansiimo: Can't find it04:16
drewplug:surround51 gives me an error, crimsun04:16
crimsunwhat sort?04:17
crimsundon't flood here04:17
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ahuman01bddebian, I get 3 defs: from moby thesaurus, From Collaborative International Dictionary and from Wordnet .. so I seem to have these dicts installed .. but where are they located ?04:17
seth_ksiimo, reka is correct04:17
drewcrimsun: couldn't open audio04:17
crimsundrew: you have to use the alsa output for it04:17
drewcrimsun, shouldI be in oss to type that or alsa?04:17
flodinecan someone tell me what snapshot program counts from 5 down to 1 then snap04:17
drewcrimsun, i'm in alsa and I typed that.04:18
flodinescreenshot04:18
crimsundrew: use plug:iec958 then04:18
drewcrimsun, that only plays it in those two speakers04:19
sinfernocan anyone help me get 4 speakers working with a sblive value?04:19
crimsundrew: then fix your mixer elements04:19
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crimsundrew: that is, use the surround/iec elements04:19
drewcrimsun, everything's turend up full.04:19
seth_kflodine, KSnapShot does, but it's KDE04:19
crimsunsinferno: just use plug:surround4004:19
bddebianahuman01: You know, that is a good question.  I never checked04:19
crimsundrew: bad idea. Contrary to popular belief, turning everything up doesn't work.04:20
zenlunaticwhen i click on system -> lock screen the screen doesn't lock. why?04:20
drewcrimsun, then what do I do?04:20
sinfernok04:20
crimsundrew: mute the ones you aren't using, like capture*04:20
drewcrimsun, what other ones do I mute?04:20
eno__are there any other cool distros of linux (ubuntu is now my favourite) that I should try out?04:20
crimsundrew: there's a good resource for the mixers on alsa.opensrc.org. Read the documentation.04:21
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drewcrimsun, I'll look. btw, thanks for all the help04:21
goldfisheno__: there's loads.04:21
ahuman01bddebian, apparently wordnet is on the net http://wordnet.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn04:21
bddebianahuman01: There are several database options that it can use04:22
drewcrimsun, should I be using alsamixer?04:22
bddebianeno__: Try Slackware. ;-)04:22
goldfisheno__: gentoo is cool04:22
zenlunaticdrew it looks like the screen saver daemon wasn't running04:23
eno__I have tried Knoppix, Arklinux, Blag, Xandros and Debian (but I didn't know any command line so I didn't do anything in Debian)04:23
parkbenchhm, i'll condense my question...can anyone hyelp with wireless setup on ubuntu?04:23
drewzenlunatic, what?04:23
zenlunaticdrew i guess your forgot. nm.04:23
sinfernocrimsun, where do i enable that plugin...04:23
drewzenlunatic, no wait come back!04:23
benplautparkbench: what kind of card do you have?04:23
eno__will it be hard to install them on my drive without removing ubuntu?04:23
drewzenlunatic, what did you do?04:23
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zenlunaticdrew: i restart screen saver daemon04:23
drewzenlunatic, how?04:23
benplautkillall xscreensaver04:24
benplautand then04:24
drewcrimsun, how can I get this thing to stop stuttering? I'll work on all speakers later.04:24
benplautxscreensaver04:24
benplauti think04:24
zenlunaticdrew: i went into the screen saver propertives and it said "the daemon is not running, start it now" and i said yes04:24
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crimsunsinferno: it's not a plugin, it's an alsa device.04:24
kbrookshuh04:24
drewzenlunatic, and that helped you w/ surround sound?04:24
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bddebiangoldfish: You stumped me on that one04:24
kbrooksmd5 mismatch04:24
kbrookswtf04:25
parkbenchbenplaut: i don't know, i've been trying to determine that, to match with one of the lists04:25
goldfishbddebian: :)04:25
crimsundrew: use newer drivers (or) use a better sound card (or) use the oss output plugin04:25
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goldfishbddebian: i got a couple of suggestions.04:25
bddebianparkbench: What is the problem with the wireless?04:25
drewcrimsun, ok thanks.04:25
rekaeno__: two things you'll have to work out [1]  partitioning [2]  possible bootloader issues04:25
goldfish#bash woke up04:25
kbrooks*.deb  MD5Sum mismatch04:25
eno__cause I have Grub... can I just repartition and it will work?  I don't want to lose my settings in ubuntu04:25
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benplautparkbench: what kind of computer?04:25
drewcrimsun, but can oss do surround sound?04:25
parkbenchbddebian: err, i could paste again, but i wrote a really long paragraph  if you scroll up04:25
kbrookso04:25
sinfernocrimsun, oh well how do i enable it then or whatever in alsa config?04:25
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zenlunaticdrew: who said anything about surround sound?04:25
kbrooksi'd like to get rid of that message04:25
drewzenlunatic, I mean 5 speakers04:25
sinfernocrimsun, i been searching google but i cant find out how to do it04:25
drewzenlunatic, not surround.04:25
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bddebianparkbench: It didn't all paste in.  Hence why no one answered I think04:26
kbrooksand let it install directly04:26
zenlunaticdrew: i said nothing about speakers04:26
parkbenchbddebian: oh! darn. err, should i condense then?04:26
crimsunsinferno: you want to use it through alsa natively?04:26
drewzenlunatic, I'm sorry, I don't remember you. waht was your problem?04:26
bddebianparkbench: Please04:26
cyphasehey everyone04:26
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zenlunaticdrew: just forget it heh04:26
sinfernocrimsun, as long as it works04:26
bddebianHello cyphase04:26
drewzenlunatic, haha, I remember now04:26
sinfernocrimsun, i dont really care04:26
Co_BHi..............04:26
crimsunsinferno: then read alsa.opensrc.org about asoundrc and plug:surround4004:26
sinfernocrimsun, ok thanks04:27
parkbenchwell ive been trying to fix this all day....i have a wusb 12v1.1 802.11b wireless adapter04:27
parkbenchfollowing the guide i got further and further04:27
drewcrimsun, what plug do I use? adn can I use oss w/ it?04:27
Co_BAsl pls04:27
parkbenchi was able to install the ndiswrapper after finally opening synaptic etc04:27
crimsundrew: the oss output plugin for xmms (for xmms, of course).04:27
jasoncohenhmm- nautilus says i have 695 MB used in /home and df -h says i have 1GB04:27
jasoncohenwhat could account for the discrepency?04:27
benplautparkbench: go to System>Administration>Device Manager04:27
parkbenchbut my main problem right now is a) it seems that both drivers are considered invalid, and b) when i try to do "modrpobe," It says operation not permitted04:27
drewcrimsun,  but do I type plug:surround something somewhere?04:27
parkbenchbenplaut: im already there, i was actually looking for an answer to your quesiotn -_-;04:28
benplautoh04:28
crimsundrew: no, those are only virtual alsa devices. they won't work with oss.04:28
drewcrimsun, snap. so no fun for me?04:28
bddebianparkbench: Does lsmod think it's already installed?04:28
benplautparkbench: paste the output of dmesg in the #flood channel04:28
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crimsundrew: not unless you try additional things like new drivers or another card.04:28
arentieHow do I move a directory to another user's home folder?04:29
drewcrimsun, but I can get 5 speakers working but stuttering using alsa?04:29
crimsundrew: certainly. You might be able to get rid of the annoying symptoms if you experiment with asoundrc. Read the alsa.opensrc.org web site.04:29
parkbenchbdebbian: well it's odd--the ndiswrapper is definietly instaleld, but the drivers, itll get errors and say it failed but yet hwen i checked theyre "instaleld" but invalid04:29
kbrookswhy do i get a MD5Sum mismatch message?04:30
crimsunback to work04:30
parkbenchbenplaut: err i wouldnt be able to--the ubuntu computer has no internet.04:30
drewcrimsun, thanks:)04:30
benplautparkbench: OK04:30
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kbrooksFailed to fetch ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.3-base_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch04:30
drummer87can someone explain to me why sound is often spluttery when i use zsnes?04:30
drummer87it's only in zsnes, nowhere else04:31
arentieparkbench I suggest running the ndiswrapper commands directly in the folder where the windows drivers reside04:31
parkbenchim just kind of lost right now--ive tried reinstalling the ndiswrapper...a lot of my problem had to do with permissions, so i edited the sudoers file and had to keep running program as and stuff04:31
parkbencharentie: alright, i guess i could try that04:31
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kbrooksWhy do i get this message: Failed to fetch ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.3-base_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch04:31
arentieparkbench, i had the same problem...also, lose the ~ if you're following what's stated on Ubuntu's Wiki04:32
benplautparkbench: do any LiveCD's properly setup the card?04:32
rekakbrooks: guessing: something's not right with your sources.list04:32
kbrooksAnyone know?04:32
drewcrimsun, so what plug: do I type again? i'm sorry, I cleared this window or something04:32
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benplautkbrooks: corrupt file... that's what MD5Sum checks for04:33
seth_kkbrooks, it's a backports issue. Try again, you should get a new backports mirror04:33
seth_ker, wait04:33
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seth_kthat's not a backports mirror, where is that04:33
kbrooksseth_k, i'm upgrading to hoary!04:33
parkbenchbenplaut: ? im sorry. this is my first linux install, i have a lot of experience with windows and other tech, but ive had problems like this before so im hoping to just make my way through it and learn from it...i didnt use a live cd, and i dont think they do--some guides said "dont even try to do this with live cd"04:33
benplautmirimax is a good mirror04:33
arentiekbrooks, I suggest downloading from a different mirror04:33
kbrooksarentie, noooo! i dont wanna have to redl04:33
seth_kanything you've already downloaded is cached04:33
seth_kin /var/cache/apt/archives/04:34
seth_kso you're fine04:34
kbrookscan i dpkg -i *.deb ALL the packages?04:34
kbrooksis it possible?04:34
rekakbrooks: gross04:34
seth_koy, gross04:34
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rekakbrooks:  "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:34
benplautparkbench: if a live CD (Knoppix is very good) can properly detect the card, then it's not very hard to see how it's setting it up, and repeat it on the Ubuntu install04:34
rekabut hta assumes you ahve a correct sources.list to begin with04:34
benplautwe all have/had problems with wireless :)04:34
parkbenchbenplaut: i *suppose* i could do that but i would like to avoid using blank cds if possible04:34
bddebianAmen to that04:35
reka*that assumes you have04:35
arentieAmen to wireless issues04:35
kbrooksreka, ok, so whats a clean sources.list04:35
benplautparkbench: OK... i'm kinda out of ideas04:35
parkbenchbenplaut: because there is supposedly a solution to this but the problem with this sort of thing is no one ever makes a comprehensive guide..some do but only to one part of the problem, so its just kind of like, making do with what you got. that method got me as far as i am but im litterally lost now :|04:35
parkbenchalright04:35
arentieeveryone, how do I copy a directory into another user's home folder?04:36
rekakbrooks: just a sec04:36
benplautparkbench: where was the guide/manpage you followed?04:36
parkbenchmy main obstacle is getting ndiswrapper.ko to actually let me touch it04:36
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bddebianarentie: cp -r04:36
parkbenchwell i used lots of googlefu, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToSetUpNdiswrapper <-that one04:36
vladuz976anybody here who knows how to fix the screen resolution problem?04:36
parkbenchplus countless forum posts and such04:36
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benplauthmm04:36
arentiebddebian, what does the -r represent?04:36
seth_krecursive04:36
kbrooksrecursive04:36
bddebianarentie: recurse through the subdirectories04:36
HuzzahItInstalleI'm reading through this guide, and apparently I need to install libgtk1.2 , so it tells me to "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libxaw6" , except it tells me "E: Couldn't find package libgtk1.2"04:37
vladuz976goldfish, i am back04:37
kbrooksecho!04:37
seth_kecho!04:37
arentiethanks, I'll try that04:37
rekakbrooks: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/41904:37
HuzzahItInstalleIs there something I need to do to set up apt-get?04:37
seth_k(if you don't use -r, it will copy the directory structure with nothing inside)04:37
drewdoes anyone know what to type in for xmms to get 5 speakers to play?  it's plug: something04:37
seth_kHuzzah, not really04:37
benplautparkbench: will you download and burn one CD? SimplyMepis supports many ndiswrapper'ed cards "out of the box"04:37
rekakbrooks: that's the warty sources.list04:37
rekakbrooks: then run the command i gave above04:37
kbrooksok04:37
bddebianHuzzahItInstalle: "sudo apt-cache search libgtk"04:37
parkbenchbenplaut: :/ i suppose if i really need to...how big is it, curious04:37
remyforbes777 huzzah: you have to make sure that your apt-get sources list is correct04:37
parkbenchbenplaut: iw as hoping, even if i had to stay up all night, that id have this solved by tomorrow04:38
arentieI receive this error: cp: cannot stat `Folder': No such file or directory04:38
benplautit makes full use of a CD... 700mb04:38
parkbenchhrum..04:38
benplautgood luck on that...04:38
HuzzahItInstalleHmmm, it just has 2.004:38
parkbenchan entier live cd just for that...hmm04:38
benplautyou're on dialup, i suppose?04:38
parkbenchi mean i guess it IS worth it for the functionality ill get just...04:38
rekavladuz976: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:38
vladuz976reka, i tried that already04:38
parkbenchwell ill keep that in mind...if i cant figure out how to make ubuntu permit me to perform operations on ndiswrapper.ko04:38
HuzzahItInstalleSo this sources list dictates what I see when I apt-get?04:39
benplautis this a PCMCIA/cardbus card?04:39
rekavladuz976: and?04:39
vladuz976reka, nothing happend04:39
bddebianarentie: "cp -r /home/usr1/* /home/usr2/ " You did it like that?04:39
remyforbes777huzzah: it dictates where apt-get will go to search for the packages04:39
bddebianHuzzahItInstalle: Yes04:39
rekavladuz976: post your xorg.conf file to a pastebin04:39
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HuzzahItInstalleHow do I change where it's pointing?04:39
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HuzzahItInstalleBecause apparently I need to downgrade that package04:39
arentiebddebian, not exactly, but I'll try now...by the way, i'm moving a folder/directory04:39
parkbenchbenplaut: assuming i do use the livecd, i just watch the method used to enable the ndiswrapper, or what?04:40
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bddebianarentie: EVERYTHING is a file in *nix ;-)04:40
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remyforbes777huzzah: look in etc/apt/sources.lst04:40
rekaHuzzahItInstalle: you edit the file: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:40
jasoncoheni dont' get this. sometimes esd does multiplexing properly and sometimes it doesn't04:40
jasoncohenwhen i see two esd instances it works and when i don't it doesn't04:40
vladuz976reka, ok hold on04:40
remyforbes777sorry , reka is right its sources.list04:40
benplautparkbench: well... pretty much. did ndiswrapper even install correctly onto your machine? or did that fail?04:40
Hackmocan anyone tell me how to execute a bin file?04:41
kbrooksyes04:41
kbrooks./bin04:41
rekaHackmo: type the name?04:41
HuzzahItInstalleThanks all04:41
kbrooksif the file is +x, which can be set by: chmod +x bin04:41
rekaHackmo: did you find the name?04:41
Hackmoreka: already tried just typing the name of the file but it didn't work04:41
jasoncohenwhy would multiplexing work only sometimes?04:41
Hackmoreka: nope04:42
kbrooksHackmo, what is the file name?04:42
Hackmoel.x86.linux.bin:04:42
arentiebddebian, error: mv: cannot stat `Wedding': No such file or directory04:42
kbrookshuh.....04:42
arentiebddebian, Wedding is the name of the folder that I'm trying to move04:42
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Hackmoit says to install it I need to chmod the directory to 577 which I have done then run that file04:43
HackmoI don't know how to run that file though04:43
Frank_dotThe long struggle is over!! I switched to Ubuntu32 from 64. So little pain... it's like heaven!04:43
parkbenchif ti helps at all, im looking through dmesg and it is informing me what i guess i already know: loadndiswrapper failed, over and over again04:43
rekaHackmo: is this still the game you're talking about?04:43
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Hackmoreka: this is a different game now04:44
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rekaarentie: then there isn't a Wedding subdirectory where you currently are.04:44
parkbenchbenplaut: it supposedly installed correctly: from synaptic it said everything was fine but evidence suggests no...i tried reinstallling...should i try compeltely removing and then reinstalling?04:44
rekaarentie: type "ls" to check04:44
phoenixeyehas anyone install ubuntu with a SATA hard drive?04:44
bddebianarentie: Show me the command04:44
jasoncohenit appears as if esd only spawns correctly sometimes04:44
tiglionabbitlawl, I'm actually weaning myself off the console and discovering how things can be done in beautiful guis now04:44
benplautparkbench: brb04:44
jasoncohenother times it doesn't spawn04:44
HackmoI completed pingus and supertux so I thought i'd try out some more :p04:44
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rekanice:)04:44
arentieroot@marndthomepcubuntu:/home/marndt # cp /home/marndt/Wedding -r /home/yellopokey04:45
arentiecp: cannot stat `/home/marndt/Wedding': No such file or directory04:45
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Hackmoso anyone know how to execute this file?04:45
rekaHackmo: is this a manual install, or using apt-get/synaptic?04:45
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Hackmomanual install04:45
arentieroot@marndthomepcubuntu:/home/marndt # ls04:45
arentiecei.conf                TUX_Issue2_May2005.pdf04:45
arentieDesktop                 ubuntu5.0404:45
arentieDocument Checklist.sxw  walleye.jpeg04:45
arentieFirefox_wallpaper.png   Wedding04:45
arentiegtk-gnutella-downloads  Wedding Mass Worksheet.pdf04:45
arentieMusic                   Wedding Program Cover Picture.jpg04:45
DonLHackmo, well done. I've not come close to finishing those games04:45
arentiendiswrapper-1.1         windows_drivers04:45
tiglionabbitarentie: don't paste here04:45
rekaHackmo: is it in the repo?04:45
bddebianarentie: "cp -r /home/marndt/Wedding /home/yellopokey/"04:45
tiglionabbitarentie: use #flood or a pastebin04:46
rekatiglionabbit: too late :)04:46
Hackmoreka: no i've already checked04:46
rekasorry.  that was my fault.  i told him to run ls :)04:46
vladuz976reka, it asks me what video modes i would like to use, non of these really sound familiar, canyou help?04:46
rekavladuz976: post your xorg.conf file first04:46
rekato a pastebin04:46
vladuz976ok04:46
benplautparkbench: what does "sudo ndiswrapper" spit out?04:46
rekaHackmo: README or INSTALL file?04:47
Hackmothe readme doesn't help and there is no install.txt04:47
parkbenchwell, i just completely uninstalled ndiswrapper and reinstalled..fromt hat point it says unable to look up ubuntu via gethostname, and the public/pickup error04:47
rekaHackmo: link to website you're getting it from?04:48
HuzzahItInstalleIt's installing!  Thank you all!04:48
Hackmoreka: http://www.eternal-lands.com/index.php?content=download04:48
HuzzahItInstalleReka, that sources pointer was fantastic04:48
Hackmoreka: from that page it says "download the zip file, and unzip it cd to the directory where you isntalled it chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin"04:49
vladuz976reka, http://rafb.net/paste/results/AKGzSV73.html04:49
bddebianHackmo: Is that file there?04:49
Hackmobddebian: yeah04:49
rekaHackmo: yeah, those instructions are crappy :)04:49
DonLgot to go for now. Bye04:50
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rekaHuzzahItInstalle: good to hear :)04:50
Hackmoreka: lol yeah04:50
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bddebianHackmo: And you did "./el.x86.linux.bin" from that directory?04:50
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benplautparkbench: OK, it's now officially over my head... sorry. Try posting at UbuntuForums (if you haven't already), lots of people using ndiswrapper over there. i only used it once, and it... didn't work...04:50
rekavladuz976: what res do you want?04:50
Hackmobddebian: no I did not, I was not aware I needed to "./"04:50
bddebianHackmo: You do if you are in that directory04:50
vladuz976reka, 1280x1040 i think is it04:51
Hackmobddebian: haha yeah just tried it and it works04:51
Hackmothanks a lot for all the help guys04:51
vladuz976reka, or is it 1080?04:51
bddebianHackmo: Otherwise you have to do "/path/to/file/el.x386.." :-)04:51
bddebianHackmo: Cool04:51
parkbenchbenplaut: agg -__-. alright, now comes where i try every friggin driver there04:51
rekavladuz976: dunno.  never gone that high :)04:51
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vladuz976reka, 1280x102404:51
vladuz976reka, that's what i used to have04:51
rekavladuz976: you sure your monitor is capable?  do you know the model?04:52
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parkbenchbut i cant even do that cos it wont let meaccess04:52
rekavladuz976: ah, do you have the model handy?04:52
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vladuz976reka, yeah that is what i had04:52
vladuz976reka yes hold on04:52
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arentietiglionabbit, sorry but I don't know anything about #flood or pastebin04:52
parkbenchi mean, i also tried the INFs that came with my wireless adapter on the cd, but those are apparently also invalid04:53
bddebianINFs?? WTF?04:53
siorfinndiswrapper04:53
bddebianeeks04:53
rekaarentie: #flood is an IRC channel, pastebins are places where you can dump text....one is linked to in the channel topic above04:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to get mplayer to play movies with a bigger sized picture?04:54
vladuz976reka, dell ultrascan p780 here is what i found http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/monitors/P780/En/spec.htm04:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven in full screen04:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's samll >.<04:54
rekaok, hang on04:54
parkbenchbdebbian the driver04:55
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bddebianparkbench: What kind of card is it again?04:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYany ideas?04:55
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HaroldJohnsonI live here now.04:55
bddebianWell welcome home then HaroldJohnson :-)04:55
HaroldJohnsonHey there04:55
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rekavladuz976: can you run this please: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange04:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to make the picture in mplayer bigger?04:56
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parkbenchbdebbian: I dont know, where can i see that? it's an old comp that i found in basement, dell p3...im in device manager but where would it be labeled?04:56
vladuz976reka, monitorrange: 30-85, 48-12004:56
rekaChurcH_of_FoamY: i've heard of that.  search ubforums while you wait04:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk04:56
vladuz976reka, that is correct no?04:56
HaroldI just received a message about using LVM while apt-get upgrading04:57
rekavladuz976: yep, hang on04:57
HaroldAnyone have any idea what it means/04:57
Harold?04:57
HaroldAh, nevermind04:57
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bddebianparkbench: Hang on a sec04:58
warrior_Hey guys, I need someone to look at my xorg.conf file and let me know why I'm getting a keyboard error at startup04:59
warrior_I've got the error if you need to see it04:59
bddebianparkbench: Is it a USB adapter?04:59
seth_khttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl warrior_04:59
seth_kand I'll look04:59
rekavladuz976: ok, what i've done is edited your xorg.conf file.  i've added your monitor rates in the Monitor section and added 1280x1024 as the default resolutions for all colour depths.  replace your old xorg.conf file with this one.  (backup if you want)05:00
rekavladuz976: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tBp0UA47.html05:00
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remyforbes777reka are you female?05:00
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vladuz976reka,ok i'll try05:00
rekaremyforbes777: no.  do i give that impression? :)05:00
remyforbes777no, the name reka did05:01
rekaremyforbes777: i got it off "eureka"...my favourite movie :)05:01
remyforbes777im from the hood so i was thinking like shareka, or dareka,05:01
remyforbes777lol05:01
rekai've been told it means "river" and "right" in other languages05:01
warrior_seth_k,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42005:01
remyforbes777real ethnic hood names05:01
rekaha05:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere seems to be only documentation about how to compile and instal mplayer in ubuntu05:02
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rekaremyforbes777: no, occasionly listening to r&b is as urban as i get. :)05:02
parkbenchbdebbian: sorry, yes, it is a USB adapter05:02
parkbenchbdebbian: linksys WUSB12v1.1 802.11b05:02
HaroldHere's a hood name: Choo Choo05:02
remyforbes777lol, alright05:02
seth_kwarrior_, and the error?05:03
HaroldOr Clownboy05:03
vladuz976reka, just restart X is enough?05:03
rob^yay I'm back after spilling coffee on my old keyboard and breaking it05:03
rekavladuz976: should be05:03
rekavladuz976: reboot if not05:03
vladuz976reka, ok i'll be back05:03
remyforbes777reka: let me ask you something05:04
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rob^it was funny to watch the coffee short out different keys and watch them scroll across the screen in gedit05:04
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remyforbes777reka: how many hours a day do you say you spent learning linux05:04
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warrior_seth_k,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42105:04
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seth_kthanks warrior05:05
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HaroldWhat is a pastebin?05:05
warrior_seth_k, actually, thank you if you have any insight on my prob05:05
rekaremyforbes777: not many05:06
bddebianparkbench: Have you tried the atmel driver?05:06
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warrior_seth_k, I redid fglrxconfig after I got the error but no change05:06
seth_kHarold, it's a place to paste lots of stuff without flooding the channel05:06
rekaHarold: a website where you can dump text for others to se05:06
seth_kwarrior_, you are using Warty or Hoary?05:06
remyforbes777reka: really, how did you become so knowledgable05:06
parkbenchatmel? no, is it located in ubuntu already? i might have seen an atmel.ko05:06
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reka:)05:06
parkbenchor i could be making shit up05:06
warrior_seth_k, Hoary05:06
parkbenchbut regardless, no i havent05:06
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bddebianparkbench: Try this:  "sudo modprobe atmel"05:06
HaroldThanks, Seth and Reka05:06
WillieDaPimpi just recieved 10 copies of Ubuntu and i tried to boot the live version and it won't boot, not one out of the ten will boot05:07
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rekaremyforbes777: they're common problems to ubuntu.  just stay in here a while and you pick up stuff. :)05:07
ksmurfhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/30817705:07
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parkbench'unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()'05:07
remyforbes777reka: ohhhh ok, got you05:07
ksmurfThat is what I get when I open a sudo natilus or gedit from terminal05:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to get to the hdb1 drive in console?05:07
parkbenchthen 'postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pikcup: no such file or directory05:07
ksmurfshould I be worried?05:07
rekaremyforbes777: how long have you been using linux?05:08
rekaksmurf: wow05:08
parkbenchi get that for a lot of the commands i enter05:08
bddebianparkbench: OK, hang on a sec05:08
remyforbes777reka: not long, i have been messing with it for a few months05:08
parkbenchokay, thank you05:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi need to get into the hdb1 drive in console anyone know how to?05:08
ksmurfreka what's it mean?05:08
HaroldAnyone: How do I check how much disk space I have remaining/05:08
seth_kwarrior_, this file is super whack. Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?05:08
Harold?05:08
seth_kotherwise I'll have a go at trimming it up for you05:09
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: In console?05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes05:09
warrior_seth_k, no but will that reset my 3d acceleration with ati?05:09
rekaksmurf: not sure.  might be a glib issue by the looks of it05:09
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warrior_seth_k, I mean I'll do it again if I have to but you know05:09
remyforbes777reka: I am studying for my Linux +, I have Ubuntu installed on an old HP Pavilion with about 32 MB of ram, I am not even running X05:09
ksmurfreka... k thanks05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to get to my hdb1 drive and the folder i created there05:09
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seth_kwarrior_, two things05:09
vladuz976reka, awesome works like a charm05:09
seth_kfirst, you'll have a backup05:09
vladuz976reka, thank you sooo much05:09
rekavladuz976: good to hear.05:09
seth_ksecond, you'll be able to select the fglrx driver again so it's all good05:09
rekavladuz976: back it up somewhere for future reinstalls :)05:09
seth_kimo the benefits are worth it05:09
rekathen you can just copy it over05:10
vladuz976reka,05:10
seth_kYou're using the driver straight from ATI?05:10
vladuz976reka, yes for sure05:10
seth_kor the fglrx driver from Ubuntu05:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYmedia hdb105:10
warrior_seth_k, gotcha, I'm gonna give it a shot.  Yep the rpms from the website 8.14.13-105:10
remyforbes777reka: i wanna do a lot more with it, setting it up on a windows network, maybe use it as a firewall, a DNS server, or a proxy server05:10
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ksmurfanyone here use 3ddesktop switching?05:10
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rekaremyforbes777: see.  i have no clue about networking on *nix. :)05:10
remyforbes777reka: there is so much to learn though, I feel like I dont know jack05:10
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seth_kyeah, just select the fglrx driver, warrior_05:11
rekaremyforbes777: you'll get there. :)05:11
seth_kwhen you do the reconfigure05:11
remyforbes777I did set SAMBA up and I can see this box from my windows machine05:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know?05:11
warrior_seth_k, cool bbl if all goes well :)05:11
seth_kcross fingers :D05:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYcd cdrom005:11
ksmurfu can see the box but can't get in right?05:11
rekaremyforbes777: i didn't even know how to use irssi a month ago...so i'm always learning :)05:11
remyforbes777reka: compiling my kernel has been another task, I keep getting errors everytime05:11
remyforbes777reka: i dont even know what irssi is05:12
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rekaremyforbes777: see, i avoid messing with my kernel.  only compiled once, and that was using a guide05:12
rekaremyforbes777: apt-cache show irssi05:12
remyforbes777reka: what is that supposed to do05:13
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remyforbes777reka: it didnt do anything05:13
chuggawill ubuntu run off a cd?05:13
remyforbes777reka: does that run using X?05:13
rekawhoops.05:13
parkbenchchugga: there are ubuntu livecds if thats what youre asking05:13
rekaremyforbes777: it's just an IRC client that can run in a terminal05:14
chuggapark, official ones? do they work well?05:14
bddebianparkbench: Is this the only network adapter?05:14
rekaWillieDaPimp: tried them on a different computer?05:14
remyforbes777reka: ahhhhhh, see I am not using a terminal, straight shell05:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to get here in console how to do : media:/hdb1/shane05:14
parkbenchbdebbian: on the linuxbox? yeah its the only usb05:14
remyforbes777reka: anytime I try to boot into X my box freezes05:15
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parkbenchchugga: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ scroll down to livecd05:15
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parkbenchchugga: i havent used them but from waht i understand they work fine just like any other livecd05:15
rekaremyforbes777: why?05:15
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rekaremyforbes777: tried fixing it?05:15
bddebianparkbench: OK but is it the only network card in the computer?05:15
zeeeeehi all, it seems right now i can't run apps that use esd and jack audio systems at the same time... is there any solution for this?05:15
remyforbes777reka: dont know how, someone suggested it was because I only have 32MB of RAM05:16
parkbenchbdebbian: well again i dont know. before i installe dlinux i just plugged the USB in and it worked fine, windows xp05:16
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bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Mount the drive somewhere05:16
rekaremyforbes777: ah, yes.  probably :)05:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's already mounted05:16
chuggahow long have ppl here been running ubuntu? have you had any problems with updating or upgrading05:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just need to get to it through console05:16
remyforbes777reka: the logs really didnt show me much05:16
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bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: What do you mean by console?  You mean a terminal window?05:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't know how to change deives in linux yet05:16
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rekaremyforbes777: although ubuntu req. says it only needs at least 3205:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes terminal window05:16
drewcrimsun, are you still there?05:16
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rekaremyforbes777: tried using a more lightweight WM?  t could be gnome.05:17
reka*it could be05:17
parkbenchbdebbian: and the computer USED to be a commonly used comp with 56k, then cable, years ago05:17
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: There are no "drives" in GNU/Linux.  It mounts to a directory.05:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYum...ok05:17
remyforbes777reka: someone suggested that, but I dont know where to start , I havent researched it yet05:17
drewwell, could someone help me?  when I use the alsa plugin w/ xmms the sound stutters.  Any ideas?05:17
robitaillebddebian:  just saw your wiki page.  You're not THAT old :)05:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYthen how do i get to the directory in hdb1?05:17
tiglionabbitoh hi again ChurcH_of_FoamY05:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey how are ya?05:17
rekaremyforbes777: well if you're happy using console only...05:18
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: is that partition mounted somewhere?05:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes05:18
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: then go there05:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's on a drive seperate then mine05:18
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bddebianparkbench: Do you see anything if you go to System->Administration->Networking ?05:18
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: what did you put for the mountpoint?05:18
remyforbes777reka: i mean its cool, I might learn more using just that, but I would like to have a WM05:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i need to do it in terminal to get mplayer to play in full screen05:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYstorage05:18
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: you're not making sense.  What is in the second column for it in fstab, or the second argument you passed to mount05:19
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Just type "mount" on the command line05:19
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: or that, what bddebian said05:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYok in windows you have drive c:05:19
sayaodoes anyone knows if there are openoffice 2 beta packages available for hoary?05:19
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: the windows drive letters don't matter here05:19
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: It should say /dev/hdb1 on /foo/bar05:19
rekaremyforbes777: i couldn't live with console only. :)  i'd try it if i were you...something like fluxbox probably05:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYif you want drive d you go "cd d:/05:19
drewwell, could someone help me?  when I use the alsa plugin w/ xmms the sound stutters.  Any ideas?05:19
bddebianrobitaille: Well I feel about 75 ;-P05:19
rekasayao: yes05:19
sayaoreka, where?05:20
parkbenchbdebbiaN: to even get INTO that i have to run the program as user root and input password and all that05:20
parkbenchbdebbian: but once inside..05:20
bddebianparkbench: No, you have to put your password in :-)05:20
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: think linux here05:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYok then how the heck do i change to the harddrive that contains the info in terminal >.<05:20
parkbenchthere's a grayed out "modem connection"05:20
rekasayao: openoffice.org2 - Office suite core, version 2.005:20
remyforbes777reka: so do a apt-get install fluxbox? Then how do I mak that my defualt WM05:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying but have been dumbed down by years of windows use05:20
rekasayao: it will install it seperately from the default one05:20
ksmurfK ... next . Does anyone have any experience with wine?05:20
bddebianparkbench: No "Ethernet Connection" ?05:20
robitaillebddebian: well, now I feel old after seeing your birthday...05:20
rekaremyforbes777: ah, see, i'm not sure bout that05:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the drive is05:20
parkbenchbdebbian: no05:20
remyforbes777reka: i'll google it or something05:21
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: okay, first off, in a terminal, say `mount`.  What does it say /dev/hdb1 is on?05:21
blahstreamripper sure is a nice application05:21
rekaremyforbes777: i'm sure there are people in here who know though.05:21
parkbenchbdebbian: and i realised that nothing there was the problem...so ive just been trying to piece togehter resources on how to get ANYTHING to appear05:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)05:21
remyforbes777reka: I'll be on tomorrow, right now I have to lay it down for the night05:21
sayaoreka, but where are the packages?05:21
bddebianparkbench: I think something is missing in your network config05:21
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: OK, so cd /storage05:21
remyforbes777reka: take it easy05:21
blahthen i edit the mp3 rips with audacity05:21
parkbenchwhat would i do in order to change that, though?05:21
rekasayao: that's the package name: openoffice.org205:22
bddebianparkbench: I'm not sure what it is yet.  Something is screwed up with DNS or something05:22
rekait's a metapackage05:22
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: then it's in /storage.  So go look at the highest directory in your filesystem and go into the storage directory there05:22
blahwho needs p2p when u just rip audio streams right off the internet05:22
rekaremyforbes777: later05:22
bddebianparkbench: Get to a terminal and type "cat /etc/resolv.conf"05:22
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parkbenchbdebbian: well when i installed the only component that cuoldnt complete was the networking, because there wa sno connection and it was this wireless thing05:22
parkbenchbdebbian: ok05:22
bddebianparkbench: Ahhh05:22
sayaoreka, i've installed those, but they are old.. .79 iirc05:22
parkbenchno such file or directory?05:23
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rekasayao: oh, ok05:23
bddebianparkbench: OK.  Try this just for fun:  "apt-get update"  then do "apt-get -f install"05:23
robitaillesayao:  that the best ooo2 packages you will find officially for hoary.05:23
rekasayao: what about installing directly from their installer?05:23
bddebianparkbench: Scratch that05:23
blahhehe i just had to do a apt-get -f install05:24
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tiglionabbitwhy are you forcing apt?05:24
parkbenchbdebbian: done, they "worked' but it said 0 new instaled, 0 removed, 0 not upgraded...05:24
blahfirefucked wouldnt upgrade05:24
bddebiantiglionabbit: -f is fix05:24
tiglionabbitoh05:24
tiglionabbit=P sorry05:24
bddebian:-)05:24
vladuz976i was using fedora before i got ubuntu today. apt-get works similar to yum?05:24
rekablah: the ubuntu version already has 1.0.4's security updates05:25
blahhow would i go about installing opera on ubuntu?05:25
bddebianvladuz976: Somewhat05:25
tiglionabbitvladuz976: yep, but in most people's opinion, better.  You can use aptitude or synaptic as well, for the same purposes05:25
blahdont care much for firefart05:25
bddebianblah: "sudo apt-get install opera" ?05:25
seth_kblah, there is a deb package on opera.com05:25
vladuz976bddebian, so if i wanna install xine let's say i just go sudo apt-get install xine\*05:25
blahcool thanks05:25
DonLI did the same transition, vladuz976 . I really like apt-get05:25
seth_kbddebian, i don't think it's in the repos05:25
seth_kiirc05:25
bddebianseth_k: Ahh05:25
tiglionabbitvladuz976: you probably want xine-ui05:25
rekavladuz976: just xine will be fine05:25
seth_ksince non-free05:25
vladuz976DonL, what's better about it05:25
bddebianvladuz976: You don't need the xine\*05:25
parkbenchbdebbian: so those worked but i dont think anything changed05:25
rekaor what tiglionabbit said :)05:26
bddebianparkbench: No it didn't05:26
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vladuz976xine xine-ui what's the differnece?05:26
tiglionabbitvladuz976: you can search through your package lists with apt-cache search05:26
seth_kblah, http://opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=26855%2C26854&location=132&sub=++++&x=116&y=1505:26
tiglionabbitvladuz976: um, it's xine with a user interface?05:26
bddebianseth_k: Is there a specific package for all the network "stuff" ?05:26
chuggavladuz976, try vlc05:26
seth_kbddebian, more specific please05:26
blahya vlc rocks05:26
vladuz976chugga, wht that05:26
tiglionabbitchugga: lol, everyone can recommend a player05:26
bddebianseth_k: What installs /etc/resolv.conf and the like?05:27
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tiglionabbittotem, mplayer, vlc, xine05:27
yojimbo-sanbddebian: dhclient, if you're on dhcp05:27
rekavladuz976: also, apparently there aren't the dependency problems you get with RPM-based distros05:27
yojimbo-sanbddebian: otherwise, manual05:27
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DonLvladuz976, it seems better at addressing additional packages05:27
vladuz976reka, really, sounds good05:27
DonLYeah Dependencies05:27
bddebianyojimbo-san: He is getting gethostbyname() issues and doesn't even have the network card set up yet05:27
chuggatiglionabbit, yeh, but vlc wins hands down. i used xine for a year then switched to mplayer because it was better, and now i have all three installed but only use vlc05:27
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vladuz976repo's are handled similar to yum.repos?05:27
bddebianvladuz976: /etc/apt/sources.list05:28
tiglionabbitchugga: what do I need for vlc to play quicktime with sound?05:28
Mestaphelesanyone useing XFS?05:28
uniquecan i install ubuntu from network using floppies?05:28
vladuz976oh ok05:28
seth_kyes, except our repo's don't suck05:28
yojimbo-sanbddebian: then /etc/hostname ?05:28
TsunamiiHi, can somebody help me? - I was wondering if there's an easy way to patch or update Ubuntu05:28
seth_kyou bet!05:28
seth_kit's called Synaptic05:28
bddebianyojimbo-san: ??05:28
ksmurfK ... next . Does anyone have any experience with wine?05:28
seth_kand it is in the System > Administration menu05:28
chuggatiglionabbit, not sure to be honest. havent had the need05:28
seth_kTsunamii, just hit the Reload button and then Mark All Upgrades and you will be updated05:28
tiglionabbitchugga: what, do you only play .avi format?05:28
chuggatiglio, nah, mostly dvds05:29
Tsunamiioh, thank you seth_k05:29
Tsunamiiis that it?05:29
DonLI install it, ksmurf and some programs work with it, and some don't05:29
seth_kit's that easy05:29
tiglionabbitchugga: yeah, but some people need to play other media formats =P05:29
yojimbo-sanbddebian: man 1 hostname, and look in /etc/hostname file - used in /etc/init.d/hostname05:29
Tsunamiibecause when I put in my 66GT before, it won't boot up the GUI05:29
seth_kSynaptic is also what you use to install new software in Ubuntu05:29
Tsunamiiso i changed to my gf205:29
seth_kjust search for what you want and click it05:29
TsunamiiI see05:29
bddebianparkbench: try: "cat /etc/ hostname" and tell me what's in it if anything05:29
Tsunamiihaha, I just randomly install files on my desktop :P05:29
rekaTsunamii: hang on...make sure your sources.list is "safe" first05:30
rekabefore upgrading05:30
Tsunamiiwhat do you mean reka?05:30
ksmurfDonL .... I have one windows proggie left that I can't find an alteritive for.  It uses a serial port.  Do you think wine might work?05:30
seth_kreka, if he didn't know about Synaptic, I doubt he's changed his sources.list05:30
seth_ktbh05:30
parkbenchetc is a directory, but hostname no such file or directort05:30
TsunamiiYeah, I haven't touched it yet05:30
rekaTsunamii: i'd avoid doing upgrading hacing backports in there05:30
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DonLksmurf, can't hurt trying05:30
tiglionabbitksmurf: what's the program?05:30
rekaTsunamii: ah ok then :)05:30
rekaTsunamii: not likely you'll have much to update then05:30
Tsunamii:P05:30
chuggatiglionabbit, fair enough. it is nice to look at my system monitor and find the load to be only 10-13% when playing a movie :)05:30
ksmurfTiglionrabbit EasyGPS05:31
Tsunamiiin anycase, by updating - will my Geforce 66GT be supported?05:31
bddebianparkbench: Got a favorite editor?05:31
parkbenchbdebbian: text? ive only used gedit sincew thats what comes with ubuntu05:31
bddebianparkbench: That's fine.  Create a file in /etc called hostname05:31
yojimbo-sanmy matrox g200 doesn't seem to deliver hardware acceleration - can I do anything about it?05:31
tiglionabbitksmurf: have you googled "linux gps" ?05:31
ksmurfDonL Anything I need to know bout installing wine05:31
yojimbo-sanbddebian: and make sure that hostname is mentioned in /etc/hosts05:32
bddebianparkbench: Just put any name in there for now.  Call it test1 or something05:32
Tsunamiiseth_k, by updating - will that make Ubuntu support my Geforce 66GT?05:32
bddebianyojimbo-san: Aye, thanks05:32
drewdoes annnyone know how to get alsa working right in xmms?05:32
bddebianparkbench: And I need a cigarette quick so brb05:32
DonLWhen I installed the new Ubuntu version of X-Chat, it automagically gave me a quick link to #Ubuntu and one to #Debian, so I thought I'd try the debian one05:32
seth_kTsunamii, search for package 'nvidia-glx'05:32
seth_kthat's what you need05:32
TsunamiiI'll just download it all :D05:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to get mplayer to play a bigger image?05:32
Tsunamiiok, thanks05:32
parkbenchbdebbian: ahh, wish i ha dsmokes. im all out05:32
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vladuz976cany you guys recommend any good repos05:33
DonLInstall it from Synaptic, ksmurf05:33
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ksmurftiglionrabbit.... Ya . a couple of command line tools came up but I have 40 -  50 locs a week.  Too much to command line in05:33
XhyldazhKHi all again! at last! I have working gfx accel, breezy badger, and no conflicts in synaptic!05:33
yojimbo-sanvladuz976: main, universe, multiverse .. :-)05:33
limerhello everyone05:33
yojimbo-sanhi limer05:33
vladuz976yojimbo-san, oh never heard of that stuff gotta explore a little05:34
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: change your video engine to xv and it should work05:34
DonLWhile on the Debian chat, I mentioned I used Ubuntu....... Anyone else done that?05:34
limeranyone have an ati 9200 that crashes with most screensavers?05:34
parkbenchbdebbian: well as i tried to save it said ia lready existed...so i browsed to the folder nad opened it and inside it just says ubuntu05:34
Tsunamiihey seth_k, there's no nvidia glx - but there's the common kernal update :P05:34
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tiglionabbitDonL: probably a pretty harsh response, eh?05:34
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DonLYup. I wasn't expecting it either05:34
yojimbo-sanparkbench: so your hostname is "ubuntu" then. OK, have a look in the /etc/hosts file05:34
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parkbenchbdebbian: ah, ok it didnt work before beucase i put a space....without a space in terminal it lists ubuntu05:35
seth_kah, Tsunamii, you have to activate the 'restricted' section of your sources.list05:35
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Tsunamii:O05:35
XhyldazhKseth_k: i did it... I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia.com, and uninstalled nvidia-glx... until breezy gets fixed, that's the easier way05:35
Discipulusif I have to install something by source, whats's the best way to go about it?05:35
seth_kfair do's XhyldazhK05:35
seth_kDiscipulus: using the package "checkinstall"05:35
DonLtiglionabbit, ubuntu has moved me to love Debian.05:35
yojimbo-sanDiscipulus: apt-get source <package> ?05:35
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: Download it, tar xvzf it, and read the readme05:35
Tsunamiihow do i open the restricted function?05:35
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yojimbo-sanparkbench: what was your original problem? is it now fixed?05:36
seth_kTsunamii, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:36
bddebianparkbench: OK, that is fine.  Now look at /etc/hosts05:36
tiglionabbitTsunamii: sudo edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment (remove the single #) before the appropriate lines05:36
seth_kyep05:36
parkbenchyojimbo-san: no, i twasnt fixed...one moment05:36
Tsunamiirgr05:36
Discipulusseth_k, what's checkinstall do?05:36
bddebianyojimbo-san: He is trying to load a linksys usb wireless adapter05:36
seth_kDiscipulus, have you ever installed something from source before?05:36
XenguyDiscipulus: apt-cache show checkinstall05:37
tiglionabbitzomg sauce05:37
bddebianyojimbo-san: And he gets gethostbyname() failed05:37
yojimbo-sanDiscipulus: makes a package out of a compiled source tarball.05:37
parkbench127.0.0.1 localhost05:37
seth_kyou use ./configure && make && make install05:37
Discipulusseth_k, on Mandrake? All the time. On Ubuntu? Nope.05:37
bddebianparkbench: Is that it?05:37
DiscipulusYea, I know how to do it.05:37
seth_kwith checkinstall, you do ./configure && make && checkinstall05:37
Discipulusah, alright05:37
yojimbo-sanparkbench: bddebian: hosts should have the word "ubuntu" on the same line05:37
seth_kand it'll make a Debian package that is easy to uninstall05:37
seth_kwhich is the big problem with installing from source05:37
parkbenchbddebian: yup05:37
seth_khard to uninstall05:37
seth_kbut with checkinstall, it's gravy05:37
bddebianparkbench: You need to edit that file and add ubuntu after localhost05:37
parkbenchspace or no/05:37
tiglionabbitwhoa, seth_k, that sounds cool, how did you say you do that?05:38
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bddebianparkbench: so it should say 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu05:38
yojimbo-sanparkbench: just like this "127.0.0.1<space>localhost<space>ubuntu"05:38
seth_ktiglionabbit, wherever the readme tells you to use "make install", simply replace with "checkinstall"05:38
seth_kand it will install and also spit out a debian package05:38
seth_kthat you can then use to remove the files you installed via source05:38
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seth_kit's super nifty05:38
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warrior_seth_k, things are running great05:38
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seth_kw00t!05:38
tiglionabbitseth_k: seems so.  I shall install this checkinstall05:39
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parkbenchwont let me edit...read only05:39
warrior_seth_k, thanks for your help, you are a true master of the arts05:39
seth_kglad to hear it warrior_05:39
Tsunamiihow do i know which one to uncomment?05:39
seth_khaha, np05:39
parkbenchi assume theres a way around with permissions, or something, or if i run gedit as root05:39
tiglionabbitparkbench: start your command with 'sudo'05:39
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seth_kTsunamii, look for one with "restricted" in it05:39
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bddebianparkbench: Aye, sudo05:39
tiglionabbitparkbench: or run a root terminal05:39
seth_kdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted05:39
seth_kdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted05:39
Tsunamiiyeah, but do i have to uncomment them all?05:39
seth_kjsut those two05:39
seth_kexcept yours say "hoary"05:39
seth_ker05:40
bddebianparkbench: Learn vi ;-)  Just kidding05:40
seth_kthose are security05:40
seth_kmy bad05:40
seth_kdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:40
seth_kdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:40
seth_kthose two05:40
eltinoHello05:40
seth_kthe ones that end in restricted05:40
tiglionabbityeah but whatever you do, DONT put the word breezy in there05:40
seth_khi eltino05:40
parkbenchokay, done05:40
Xenguybddebian: everyone should learn vi eventually :-)05:40
tiglionabbitthat'll really screw you up05:40
seth_kindeed!05:40
Tsunamii## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network05:40
Tsunamii# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted05:40
Tsunamii# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted05:40
Tsunamiiis that it?05:40
seth_kyep05:40
seth_koy, wary05:40
seth_ks/wary/warty05:40
tiglionabbitTsunamii: yup.  Warty?05:40
seth_kupgrade05:40
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Tsunamiiyeah, what's wrong with Warty? D:05:40
seth_kvi is a text editor05:41
seth_kWarty is old :P05:41
Tsunamiii got it free with a PC mag05:41
Tsunamiioh05:41
Tsunamii:(05:41
IceDC571vim is neat05:41
bddebianXenguy: No, they shouldn't :-)05:41
seth_kyou have broadband?05:41
Tsunamiiyeah05:41
Xenguyparkbench: it's worth it (vim actually)05:41
tiglionabbitTsunamii: to upgrade to hoary, I believe you can replace all of those "warty"s with the word "hoary", and then do sudo apt-get uppdate; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:41
bddebianparkbench: It's an antiquated editor :-)05:41
seth_kthat's correct05:41
seth_ks/uppdate/update05:41
Xenguybddebian: how else will we know when world domination is complete?! :P05:41
IceDC571i hated it at first but i grew to love it05:41
parkbenchbddebbian: ahh, from the dark ages of linux perhaps :)05:41
bddebianXenguy: Heh05:41
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Xenguybddebian: antiquated my ass05:41
Tsunamiii tried apt-get update ( doesn't work :P ), haven't tried apt-get dist-upgrade05:41
bddebianparkbench: Actually from Unix05:41
Tsunamiiok firstly05:41
tiglionabbitvi is an editor in which you can use the s/old/new/ substitution syntax everyone uses in this chatroom05:41
Tsunamiiwhich should i do first?05:42
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Tsunamiiupdate this via synaptic, or dist-update?05:42
seth_keh, use Warty for now05:42
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seth_kuncomment those lines, save05:42
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parkbenchbdebbian: coolies. so now that thats corrected, should i stop geting gethostbyname errors05:42
IceDC571i just discovered checkinstall.. neat script05:42
seth_kthen reload in Synaptic05:42
seth_kthen you can install nvidia-glx05:42
Tsunamiithere's a lot of Commented lines btw D:05:42
seth_kand get your vid card fun05:42
tiglionabbitTsunamii: that's dist-upgrade05:42
bddebianparkbench: Let's hope.  Try your "sudo modprobe atmel" again05:42
Discipulusso what does dist-upgrade do that upgrade doesn't?05:42
tiglionabbitTsunamii: don't uncomment the ## ones, just the # ones05:42
Tsunamiiyeah, there's 6 of them05:42
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: dist-upgrade is allowed to remove packages when dependencies change in a newer version05:43
Tsunamii## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network05:43
Tsunamii# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted05:43
Tsunamii# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted05:43
Tsunamii## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'05:43
Tsunamii## repository.05:43
seth_kTsunamii, they do different things. add security updates, add more software05:43
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: remove and install newer dependencies05:43
Tsunamii## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu05:43
Discipulusah, alright05:43
Tsunamii## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to05:43
Tsunamii## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in05:43
Tsunamii## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security05:43
seth_kTsunamii, please don't flood05:43
Tsunamii## team.05:43
Tsunamii# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe05:43
Tsunamii# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe05:43
bddebianWhoa05:43
Tsunamii# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted05:43
Tsunamii# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted05:43
Tsunamiiyeah sorry05:43
Tsunamiijust wanted to know which one to uncomment D:!05:43
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warrior_:D05:43
jbroomenice05:43
seth_kin the future, just use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:43
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: "upgrade" will often report that some things were "held back" because their dependencies had changed.  To install these held back ones, you've got to use dist-upgrade instead05:43
Tsunamiik05:44
Discipulustiglionabbit, ah, alright05:44
Tsunamiiso yeah, uncomment all # ?05:44
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seth_kwell, IMO you should uncomment all of them, and change all "warty" to "hoary", then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:44
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: sorry for being so verbose there, just thought other people in the channel could stand to read that too05:44
warrior_geez how far away is kernel 2.6.12?  I need to upgrade.  I NEED it!05:44
seth_kwarrior_, it's in Breezy now :D05:44
eltinoanyone having trouble accessing MSN with hoary's gaim?05:44
seth_kI'm running it05:44
DonLwarrior_, why?05:44
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warrior_seth_k, true but breezy is very unstable05:44
tiglionabbiteltino: MSN always has problems.  It's usually MSN's fault05:44
seth_keh, it's all in how hard you run it05:45
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warrior_DonL, cause I love speed and compiling05:45
tiglionabbiteltino: I'm not having problems at the moment though05:45
seth_kI'm running it on two computers, no problems05:45
seth_kbut I like pain05:45
seth_k:P05:45
eltinotiglionabbit: ok, thanks :)05:45
parkbenchbdebbian: i did the modprobe, and entered obviously, and it just goes to next line...am i to assume it registerd?05:45
warrior_seth_k, no errors?05:45
seth_kwarrior_, sure, but no showstoppers05:45
tiglionabbiteltino: actually, yes I am, msn could well be down right now05:45
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bddebianparkbench: Sounds like it.  You can verify with "sudo lsmod"05:45
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WeggEllo05:45
seth_kwarrior_, I can't run the nvidia-glx driver right now (I would have to use the ones from Nvidia's site)05:45
Tsunamiiok, uncommented - and reloaded the update list05:45
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seth_kwarrior_, and some other stuff05:45
Tsunamiiwhat was that about the other version?05:45
WeggAre any of you experienced with Samba?05:46
XhyldazhKeltino: I have same problem, and I'm almost sure isn't gaim's fault05:46
seth_kwarrior_, but all in all very stable05:46
kertratshey, anyone have any idea why Firefox keeps going Back seemingly at random?05:46
seth_kTsunamii, did you change warty to hoary, or did you leave it?05:46
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warrior_seth_k, any news on ati drivers on breezy?  haven't seen anything in the forums.05:46
seth_kkertrats, backspace key acting up?05:46
bddebianWegg: Enough to be dangerous, what's up?05:46
Tsunamiiback in the file?05:46
kertratsnot that I know of05:46
DonLI installed Kstars because I like the program, and I had to install Konqueror because of it. I've tried using Konqy for some stuff and it's sooooo slow05:46
tiglionabbitkertrats: doesn't happen to us, hitting a key accidentally?05:46
kertratsit doesnt go off in a word processor05:46
seth_kwarrior_, we're waiting on a new linux-restricted-modules right now05:46
WeggOk I have it installed and set up to share my /home05:46
parkbenchbdebbian: so...thats done. but i do ndiswrapper -l and i still just see lswlusb.inf invalid driver (i shoul djust remove that...)05:46
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warrior_seth_k, they don't have headers yet either do they?05:46
IceDC571adwait: welcome back05:47
kertratsnothing on the keyboard, it just keeps going back every few seconds :-|05:47
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WeggBut from my Windows machine . . . when it asks for my name and password it insists on inserting the name of the machine before the username05:47
adwaitICEDC571: :)...hey05:47
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SirGrokCan someone help me configure my Sound Blaster Audigy card under Ubuntu... I know that there is basically a one line command to get Ubuntu to enable sound, but I can not remeber it for the life of me.05:47
tiglionabbitkertrats: do you have any extensions installed, such as, perhaps, mouse gestures?05:47
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jokehi05:47
warrior_SirGrok,05:47
Weggso instead of name = blah. . . it does a name = computername/blah05:47
kertratsnope05:47
Tsunamiiyou want me to find and replace all Warty with the other one?05:47
bddebianparkbench: You shouldn't need ndiswrapper if you use that driver, I don't think05:47
Tsunamiiis that safe?05:47
SirGrokwarrior_,05:47
parkbenchhmm...so should i check my network conifg?05:47
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adwaitSirGrok: there is currently no sound on ur ubuntu?05:47
bddebianparkbench: Yes05:48
SirGrokSi Si05:48
jokehow do you do05:48
seth_knope, breezy has 2.6.12-3.3 linux-headers, warrior_05:48
tiglionabbitwait what?  Yeah there's sound, just a few problems with it05:48
tiglionabbitoh05:48
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bddebianWegg: Is it acting as a domain controller?05:48
SirGrokadwait, nope. No sound.05:48
warrior_SirGrok, go to alsamixer slide over to where it says Audigy Analog digital input jack have some music playing and press del on your keypad05:48
parkbenchbdebbian: i checked...still just the grayed out modem conn05:48
adwaitSirFrok: well....hv u enabled the sound? u can check that in system>preferences>sound05:48
WeggI don't really know what that is bddebian05:48
Tsunamiiseth_k, if i replace all Warty with Hoary, is that safe?05:48
seth_kempirically safe05:49
eltinosilly question I guess, but how do I query installed packages? Like, do I have restricted modules installed, and which version?05:49
seth_kgo for it05:49
Tsunamiiempiraically?05:49
bddebianeltino: dpkg -l05:49
tiglionabbitadwait: actually, many programs will be more likely to play sound when that is unchecked05:49
eltinobddebian: thanks05:49
bddebianWegg: Hang on a sec05:49
seth_kTsunamii, without a doubt it's safe05:49
Tsunamiirgr05:49
DonLtiglionabbit, or turned up..05:49
Tsunamiihaory was it ?05:49
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seth_khoary05:49
Tsunamiihoary05:49
warrior_I'm in love with breezy. Where do I get my repository? sign me up05:49
seth_khaha05:49
tiglionabbiteltino: it should be listed in synaptic.  Look at the sections available05:49
Tsunamii deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted05:49
bddebianparkbench: OK.  What do you get if you do this at the command line:  "devprobe eth0"05:49
Tsunamiilike that?05:49
seth_kyep05:50
Tsunamiik05:50
seth_kchange them all05:50
seth_k:)05:50
adwaittiglionabbit: those using alsa/oss will do that.......but its not necessary because all my apps play sound fine, and i have the sound server enabled05:50
seth_kwarrior_, your system might die a horrible death05:50
Tsunamiidone05:50
seth_k:P05:50
Tsunamiii hope you're right :s05:50
seth_ksudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:50
seth_kgogogo05:50
warrior_seth_k, as long as its slow and painful like gentoo was, bring the pain05:50
Tsunamiiwhat about synaptic?05:50
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seth_kmmmmm pain05:50
parkbenchcommand not found?05:50
adwaittiglionabbit: since SirGrok has no sound at all........i am thinking it could be a driver problem, what say?05:50
seth_ksure, synaptic is fine05:50
SirGrokwarrior_, I havee gotten into there, but hitting delete isn't turning it on... I have found the module you are talking about, and it is off, but delete isn't enableing it.05:50
Tsunamiiok05:50
Tsunamiii'll use that05:50
tiglionabbitadwait: what do you think of this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063  it made my sounds behave a lot better than they did05:50
seth_kSirGrok, try M05:50
seth_kthe letter M, that is05:51
Tsunamiimark all upgrade, ... jesus - this will take long :P05:51
seth_kjah05:51
seth_kfew hours05:51
parkbenchbddebbian: i tried a ocmmand from the guide; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, and it difnt give me hostname error but still said operation on ndiswrapper.ko not permitted05:51
SirGrokseth_k,  IT LIVES!05:51
SirGrokThanks.05:51
seth_knp05:51
SirGrokI couldn't remeber that one.05:51
warrior_SirGrok, then go to volume control under sound and video in your menu and choose edit and preferences and turn it on that way05:51
Tsunamiidefault upgrade, or smart?05:51
Tsunamiismart is dist-upgrade05:51
bddebianWegg: That must be new to samba.  Can you log in with computername\username or does it fail?05:51
Discipulusis there an openssl-dev package?05:51
seth_ksmart05:51
Weggyea it fails.05:52
tiglionabbitTsunamii: thanks for telling me that, I was wondering05:52
bddebianDiscipulus: "sudo apt-cache search openssl-dev"05:52
adwaittiglionabbit: i have seen that post.......but when i turned of esd, rhythmbox became a little unstable: ie: whn i hit play, sometimes it would give an error and sometimes play it so i enabled the sound server and configured most apps to use alsa, so now i do have multiple sounds05:52
DonLIn my experience, a Sound Blaster card is recognizable and sets itself up on a reboot05:52
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Discipulusbddebian, already did, nothing showed up05:52
seth_kDiscipulus, I can't find one05:52
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Discipulusseth_k, EncFS is complaining that OpenSSL is required...05:52
Weggdo I have to create a new samba user account for EVERY machine on the network even though they are all logged in as the same person?05:52
warrior_DonL, oh it works...it just needs proper settings to make noise come out05:52
tiglionabbitadwait: can you play two media players at the same time and heard the sound from both of them, mixed?05:52
LoNeLy^sTyLowhich05:52
tiglionabbit*hear05:52
Discipuluschecking openssl/ssl.h usability... no05:53
Discipuluschecking openssl/ssl.h presence... no05:53
Discipuluschecking for openssl/ssl.h... no05:53
Discipulusconfigure: error: Encfs requires OpenSSL05:53
DonLwarrior_, , ok05:53
bddebianDiscipulus: It might be libssl-dev?05:53
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: do not paste here05:53
adwaittiglionabbit: yup..........and in addition, ubuntu sounds worked too....which wouldnt work with the method in that post05:53
Tsunamiiwhoops, forgot to find the nvidia glx05:53
warrior_SirGrok, did that do it?05:53
eno__thanks folks05:53
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seth_ktiglionabbit, meh, 4 lines.05:53
tiglionabbitadwait: whoa, really?  Dude tell me how05:53
Discipulustiglionabbit, I was under the impression pasting was OK in any channel as long as it was 4 lines or under....05:53
seth_kwhat's the matter Tsunamii?05:53
tiglionabbitDiscipulus: heh sorry05:53
Tsunamiiforgot to look for nvidia glx, and tick it05:53
adwaittiglionabbit: well.....i did everything mentioned in that post..just tht i turned the sound server back on05:53
Tsunamiiit's downloading the rest atm ;p05:54
seth_kno worries05:54
seth_kdo it after the upgrade05:54
Tsunamiiyeah05:54
tiglionabbitadwait: so did I, but there's this odd behavior05:54
seth_kbetter to upgrade first, then install things later anyways05:54
seth_kyou did fine05:54
DonLI must go now. You people are sooooo cool. I always feel welcome and enjoy being here. Good night05:54
bddebianparkbench: What is in /etc/network/interfaces file?05:54
Tsunamii15 minutes, jesus - time to find something to eat05:54
doonzwhats that command used to instal a deb package?05:54
warrior_later DonL05:54
bddebiandooglus: dpkg -i05:54
Xenguydoonz: dpkg -i05:54
chuckums57how do i change the bios shared video memory05:54
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ksmurfbrb05:54
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doonzthats what it is05:54
doonzthnx05:54
doonzwas trying -install05:54
Discipulusbddebian, downloading it now, thanks05:54
tiglionabbitadwait: if I run beep-media-player, and then run amarok, I can play sound in amarok fine, but if I click play in beep-media-player it hangs until I close amarok, and then it begins playing05:55
grungeiiiiiiiiiiii05:55
warrior_the anticipation is killing me05:55
warrior_I need to know if it worked05:55
parkbenchbddebian: there's a note then iface lo inet loopback05:55
tiglionabbitadwait: what should I be doing?05:55
adwaittiglionabbit: i dont use any of those really.........but i would i say configure one to use alsa and the other to use esd...05:55
grungeshs05:55
grungekimak05:56
tiglionabbitadwait: give me an example of two media players at once that you use?05:56
IceDC571ahh.. xchat-gnome is fast.. im impressed05:56
chuckums57how do i change the bios shared video memory05:56
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chuckums57???05:56
bddebianparkbench: OK.  What do you get if you type "dhclient" on the command line?05:56
adwaittiglionabbit: i hv set xmms to use alsa, and rhythmbox to use esd05:56
grungehai05:56
warrior_haha05:57
tiglionabbitadwait: after I did that stuff, when I try to run xmms, it does nothing...   there is no error or anything printed to terminal, but nothing launches...05:57
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parkbenchbuncha stuff, unknown hardware adderss, no such device, receive packet on wlan0 failed network is down,05:57
grungehai shawarna05:57
adwaittiglionabbit: hmm...thts odd......it didnt make any difference when i did all the stuff in the post.......05:58
bddebianparkbench: That's OK, at least the program is installed05:58
tiglionabbitadwait: what could be happening to my xmms, wtf05:58
parkbenchi see05:58
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adwaittiglionabbit: umm i dunno...maybe u can temporarily turn the sound server off and see if it starts?05:58
grungehai05:58
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LoNeLy^sTyLouiii05:59
tiglionabbitadwait: nope...    is there any way to track an application?  This is weird, I don't know what it's doing05:59
JesusOfSuburbiaI was wondering if Ubuntu has any built in Server Tools, and if not what tools would be reccomended05:59
LoNeLy^sTyLotaik mu grunggek05:59
XenguyJesusOfSuburbia: example?05:59
adwaittiglionabbit: not that i know off......haven't been using *nix for a very long time :)06:00
tiglionabbitadwait: I'm going to paste what gdb says to #flood06:00
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bddebianWegg: Sorry.  You might have to create computer accounts yes but not user accounts.  You should be able to run in peer mode though and not use Samba as a PDC.06:00
JesusOfSuburbiaXenguy, What do you mean? I want to run it off a Pentium II 266mhz, but it dont want to go through the hassle of installing it unless i can use it as a server06:00
parkbenchbddebian: so, thats 'working...' any idea on where to go from here? :/06:00
adwaittiglionabbit: i am there06:00
grungehai06:00
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bddebianparkbench: try "iwconfig"  Does that work?06:01
LoNeLy^sTyLooi9 grunggek06:01
LoNeLy^sTyLotaikmulah edi06:01
parkbenchyeah06:01
parkbenchand it says no wireless extensions in any of the three06:01
LoNeLy^sTyLoui ko bila nak keluar06:01
XenguyJesusOfSuburbia: no, what do you mean? The question was one of clarification :-) Linux is perfect for a server, but again, details would help.  For example, what service(s) do you want to run?06:01
tiglionabbitadwait: pretty messed, eh?  I think I'll reinstall it or something06:01
doonzanyone got a few seconds to help me get dma enabled on my 2 burners06:01
chuckums57i have a question06:02
tiglionabbitchuckums57: that's what we're here for06:02
chuckums57how do i change the bios shared video memory06:02
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adwaittiglionabbit: i guess a reinstall wouldn't harm........but dunno if itll solve ur problem :)06:02
warrior_I'm assuming SirGrok got it fixed06:02
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warrior_tiglionabbit, it happens06:03
tiglionabbitbios shared video memory?  wtf?06:03
doonzWell mebbe you can help me06:03
doonzi tied following the guide for enabling dma but im getting an out put06:03
doonztried*06:03
grungehai ipih06:04
warrior_chuckums57, go into bios and look around06:04
chuckums57i cant get my res out of 6xx by 4xx06:04
warrior_thats an xorg problem06:04
seth_kchuckum57, that sounds more like an xorg.conf issue06:04
tiglionabbitwhat's dma?06:04
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seth_kyou don't happen to have an intel chipset?06:04
chuckums57i do06:04
warrior_we have a winner06:04
seth_khah06:04
seth_ki win06:04
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grungebionic06:04
adwaittiglionabbit: dierct memory access06:04
tiglionabbitchuckums57: is this a video resolution question?06:04
chuckums57ya06:04
SirGrokwarrior_, Yes. M was the answer. Thanks.06:05
seth_kwhat monitor do you have, chuckums57? You will need to put some values into xorg.conf06:05
chuckums57i looked up my question and it said to increase the video memory06:05
warrior_not a problem, glad it worked.  Took me three weeks to figure that out :D06:05
LoNeLy^sTyLogrunggek06:05
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SirGrokHehe... Luckily I have people like you to figure it out before me ;-)06:05
chuckums57ok06:05
seth_kdoonz: the command for enabling dma is hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever06:05
chuckums57thankyou06:05
seth_kerm06:06
doonzi did that but its saying not permitted06:06
seth_ksudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever06:06
warrior_it feels good to help someone06:06
SirGrokI just had to afro-engineer a fix for my apt-get problem.06:06
warrior_whos next06:06
seth_kgotta use sudo06:06
grungehai06:06
seth_khaha, you savvy Afrotech Mods?06:06
seth_kthat site is hilarious06:06
SirGrokOh, hells yes.06:06
doonzi am using sudo06:06
SirGrokYeah it is.06:06
SirGrokI show everyone.06:06
bddebianparkbench: What do you get if you run: "sudo ifconfig -a" ?06:06
seth_kand still not permitted, maybe it doesn't support dma?06:06
doonzthey do tho06:07
SirGrokI want to major in afro-engineering.06:07
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tiglionabbitSirGrok: you mean like, hair-styling?06:07
doonzcause dma was on them when they were in my windows box06:07
SirGroktiglionabbit, no I mean coming up with ghetto solutions to problems.06:07
LoNeLy^sTyLoui edi06:07
seth_kheh, somebody find the link to afrotech06:08
grungekimakmu06:08
LoNeLy^sTyLotaIK MULAH06:08
grungehendri06:08
grungelaso06:08
LoNeLy^sTyLoJANGAN KO MACAM306:08
warrior_anybody here a fan of bash.org?06:08
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adwaittiglionabbit: did u reinstall? any luck?06:08
grungefak06:08
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LoNeLy^sTyLoUI SAMPE BILA KO DISINI06:09
bddebianparkbench: You still with me?06:09
seth_kgrunge, LoNeLy^sTyLo, stop spamming the channel06:09
Discipulusalien to change RPM to deb right?06:09
seth_kyep06:09
tiglionabbitadwait: nope06:09
SirGrokwarrior_, I frequent bash.06:09
grungemampus kamu semua .................06:09
SirGrokBut I am much more a fan of fark06:09
XenguyDiscipulus: last resort06:09
tiglionabbitadwait: still dies with no message06:09
Discipulusalright, cool06:09
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seth_kand alien -i to automatically install the deb that alien generates06:09
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WeggIs there a better system monitor than. . . System Monitor?  I'd like to see network bandidth.06:09
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grungejangan marah ya06:09
XenguyDiscipulus: tarballs with checkinstall are better IMHO06:09
Discipulusseth_k, it's a source .rpm06:10
parkbenchhmm...06:10
seth_khmm06:10
seth_kgrunge, stop it06:10
LoNeLy^sTyLoJUST KIDDING06:10
XenguyDiscipulus: which app?06:10
SirGrokI am going to go for a fun little log-in and log out. Cya in a bit06:10
DiscipulusXenguy, can't find a tarball for it :'(06:10
grungeno06:10
DiscipulusXenguy, librlog06:10
chuckums57how do i boost the amount of video memory my comp recognizes06:10
chuckums57??06:10
bddebianparkbench: ??06:10
tiglionabbitchuckums57: get the right kernel and video drivers?06:10
grungeno phone06:10
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LoNeLy^sTyLomarahkah sorry ya06:10
hyphenatedWegg: there's plenty of monitoring tools. I personally use gkrellm to show me what the machine's doing. according to some people, that makes me gay :-)06:10
warrior_chuckums57, unfortunately its sharing memory already so you'd lose performance in other areas06:11
grungearnia hai06:11
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warrior_such as ram06:11
chuckums57thtats ok06:11
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XenguyDiscipulus: are you sure that isn't packaged already tho?06:11
Discipulusyep06:11
Discipulusalready looked06:11
grungejawab la ba06:11
grungegila06:11
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WeggI'd like to be gay too. . .06:11
Wegg:-)06:11
chuckums57so how do i do it06:11
grungesetan06:11
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warrior_chuckums57, :D ok well do you know anything about overclocking ram06:12
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bddebianseth_k: :-)06:12
parkbenchbddebian: i said, it works, but there is no extension for each of the three thigns06:12
chuckums57a bit06:12
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warrior_chuckums57, skip and and purchase a video card06:12
LoNeLy^sTyLoijust want suck06:12
bddebianparkbench: The "ifconfig -a" works?06:12
Brunellusany xfce4 users here?06:12
chuckums57ok06:12
seth_klet's see, nalioth idle, crimsun away06:12
seth_k:/06:12
parkbencherr, didnt see that06:12
grungegila'''''''''''........06:12
chuckums57thanks for your time06:12
hyphenatedWegg: there's plenty to choose from, but I stuck with gkrellm, so I don't know what others use or how well it compares to other programs06:12
BrunellusI think I've just lost my XFCE panel.... I didn't do anything but restart!06:12
warrior_chuckums57, also, if you want to stay with linux go nvidia06:12
warrior_well he'll never get that06:13
seth_kheh06:13
grungehai06:13
parkbencher, it...lists some stuff06:13
seth_ktruer words never spoken though06:13
LoNeLy^sTyLostop it....(:06:13
grungelambatnya06:13
warrior_seth_k, did we solve any of his problems?06:13
peethas anyone used cedega?06:14
seth_khe doesn't stay around long enough06:14
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warrior_peet, I own it06:14
grungeseth mampus kau06:14
LoNeLy^sTyLohi hih06:14
Tsunamiiso what's so good about hoary?06:14
seth_knalioth_wrkn, ping?06:14
peetwarrior_: how is it and what video card do you use it with06:14
seth_kit's newer06:14
grungehaaaaaaaaa..06:14
Tsunamiiooer06:14
warrior_I use an X800 and using it is sometimes like bleeding06:14
grungeapa06:14
warrior_but it does the job06:14
parkbenchbddebian: any details in particular from the lsit you want?06:14
Tsunamii4 minutes left D:06:14
warrior_I've been using it to play counter-strike source06:15
peetwarrior_: what do you mean bleeding :(06:15
peetwarrior_: doesn't sound too good06:15
LoNeLy^sTyLoko will this suck06:15
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warrior_peet, some games, such as far cry, are hard to install.  But others are a breeze like hl2.  It depends on what cedega is working on06:15
LoNeLy^sTyLou don want me06:15
Discipulushmm06:15
LoNeLy^sTyLopi06:15
Discipuluswhere does a src rpm install itself too?06:15
LoNeLy^sTyLokoool06:15
adwaitlonely^stylo: ????06:15
peetwarrior_: but performancewise its fine right?06:16
bddebianDo you need yenta_sockets for USB wireless cards??06:16
IceDC571um i think a bunch of kids just walked into the channel06:16
adwaitdiscipulus: /usr/src/rpm methinks.......06:16
warrior_peet, if you're talking about all the tuning and settings no, but speed wise yes06:16
rob^does the ubuntu kernel have LUFS support built in?06:16
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warrior_peet, as long as you're not anistrophix 8x and all that other high end stuff it will run great06:16
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grungepi lonely06:17
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warrior_peet, I have the lowest lag of any cs:source room I go into :-D06:17
jasmuzwarrior_: how about UT the win version?06:17
grungeapa yu06:17
peetwarrior_: obviously because linux rules :006:17
Tsunamiibtw, does ubuntu require a firewall?06:17
peetwarrior_: :) do you know anything about nvidia crds?06:17
warrior_jasmuz, the original UT?06:17
Tsunamiiis are linux os pretty much safe?06:17
jasmuzwarrior_: or Hitman2?06:17
DiscipulusI found it!06:17
warrior_peet, I do06:17
grungelonelt mampus makan taik...............06:18
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warrior_peet, I ran an nvidia 550006:18
LoNeLy^sTyLogrunge06:18
grungeapa ..06:18
Discipulusit put a .tgz in /06:18
warrior_peet, nvidia works so so so so much better06:18
drewanybody here now who can help me w/ alsa and xmms?06:18
peetwarrior_: if i bought a 6600gt would i be satisfied? (currently use a 9800pro)06:18
LoNeLy^sTyLowat u say06:18
XenguyTsunamii: if you are not running services, then maybe you don't need a firewall06:18
seth_kpeet, mmmmmm 6600gt06:18
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LoNeLy^sTyLoi did no06:18
Tsunamiipeet, neg - you'd want a 68GT06:18
grungeapa2 je06:18
jasmuzwarrior_: yes, the original UT and Hitman206:18
Brunellusgah.  where's my XFCEpanel gone?!06:18
LoNeLy^sTyLoakalah06:18
warrior_peet, depends on the game but yes it would be adequate for almost any game06:18
TsunamiiXenguy, by that you mean?06:18
peetTsunamii: is there one slot solutions for 6800gt?06:18
jasmuzdrew: what is the issue?06:18
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Tsunamiiyeah, there is06:19
warrior_jasmuz, I have not installed either of those but I do have hitman contracts and ut2004 installed06:19
Tsunamii66GT isn't much different from 98Pro06:19
LoNeLy^sTyLoko punya sejarah sudah siapkah06:19
peetwarrior_: hmm yeaso how much does cedega cost06:19
Tsunamiijust that, you'd want a PCI e 16x slot for the 68GT06:19
drewjasmuz, my xmms stutters when it tries to play in alsa06:19
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grungesapa ni06:19
peetTsunamii: ooooh an athlon64 system :)06:19
jasmuzwarrior_: i have UT2003 and it sucks06:19
warrior_peet, $15 to start and 5 dollars a month after that (goes to developing it and is worth it to me)06:19
drewjasmuz, it stutters terribly06:19
XenguyTsunamii: OTOH a firewall is never really a *bad* idea; 'shorewall' is a good firewall script.  So is 'firehol' I hear06:19
parkbenchjasmuz: i liked ut2k3, and its successor06:19
grunge........../////"????????? ha 206:19
pressure_manargh. shorewall is terrible!06:20
jasmuzdrew: are you using alsa as the default on Gnome?06:20
seth_kpeet, but you don't *have* to keep subscribing if you don't want to06:20
warrior_jasmuz, well thats because they rushed production od ut2k306:20
TsunamiiOTOH?06:20
Xenguypressure_man: nonsense06:20
Tsunamiion top of my head?06:20
Xenguyon the other hand06:20
drewjasmuz, what?06:20
Tsunamiirihgt :P06:20
Tsunamiiright06:20
adwaitdrew: wht if u use esd?06:20
peetwarrior_: can you install other apps like office and photoshop in particular?06:20
Brunellusanyone running xfce?06:20
pressure_manit produces the ~least~ efficient iptables script i've ever seen in my life06:20
peetwarrior_: easily(06:20
seth_kpeet, you'll just lose access to upgrades06:20
warrior_jasmuz, ut2k4 has a linux installer so you don06:20
warrior_jasmuz, need cedega for ut200406:20
Tsunamiiwoot, it's applying the updates =] 06:20
peetseth_k: you mean to the windows apps?06:20
warrior_peet, use wine its free06:20
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pressure_manit forces all traffic to traverse all chains before finally going into the chain where it gets filtered!06:20
seth_kpeet, no, to cedega06:20
Xenguypressure_man: I disagree - the author is a professional, and many swear by it06:20
IceDC571what?!? you need cedega for ut2004? w06:20
seth_kpeet, if you want office apps, not games, use wine06:20
IceDC571right.....06:20
peetwarrior_: wine is a pain to isntall (at least on gentoo)06:20
pressure_manthe author is clearly an amateur06:20
peetseth_k: i have tried wine i don't lik eit :(06:21
adwaitpeet: wht isnt?06:21
adwait:d06:21
warrior_peet, little easier with debian I promise06:21
tiglionabbitpeet: it's on apt06:21
IceDC571don't judge wine until you get it to work right06:21
drewadwait, I don't get any sound w/ esd06:21
seth_kpeet, for office apps, cedega is no better than wine06:21
Xenguypressure_man: do you write firewalls for a living?06:21
pressure_manjust look at the script it generates, and you will see how much timewasting the packets do as they traverse useless chains that will never match those packets06:21
peetseth_k: really? :(06:21
seth_kpeet, cedega's real advantage is its directX stuff06:21
Tsunamiiwine? windows emulator?06:21
seth_kyep06:21
Tsunamiiwhy would you do that on linux06:21
seth_ksudo aptitude install wine06:21
adwaitdrew: hmm.....do u hv the sound server enabled in system>preferences>sound?06:21
warrior_isn't there a quemu?06:21
peetso is installing apps the same difficulty as with wine?06:21
seth_kbecause there are specialized programs that have no linux versions?06:21
peeton cedega*06:22
jasmuzwarrior_: my UT2k3 came with a linux installer too06:22
jasmuzwarrior_: but i have an onboard videocard, without accel sigh :(06:22
bddebianparkbench: Do you have a /proc/net/wireless file?06:22
Tsunamiioh06:22
seth_koffice apps, yes06:22
pressure_mannot for a living, but i am a cisco, netscreen/juniper and proxim certified network engineer, so i know a thing or two about firewalls06:22
drewI need alsa06:22
seth_kgames, easier06:22
drewI want it to work so that I can get 5.1 to work.06:22
seth_kTsunamii, I run a stats program called Fathom that is Windows-only06:22
Tsunamiii see06:22
tiglionabbitwhy would you want to use windows office apps?06:22
warrior_jasmuz, stuck on a rowboat with no oars.  I'm sorry to hear that.  ut2004 runs flawlessly with settings maxed out06:22
peetseth_k: is wineX better than cedega?06:22
tiglionabbitthere's plenty of office apps for linux06:22
Xenguypressure_man: I think yer on crack, but whatever - pick yer poison :-)06:22
warrior_peet, no06:22
vladuz976can someone tell me how i add multiverse?06:22
peetwarrior_: ut2k4 has a native linux install file ont he cd06:22
seth_kvladuz976: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:22
IceDC571oh god, i've had enough with aMSN06:22
IceDC571i hate Qt06:23
seth_kvladuz976, and uncomment the multiverse lines06:23
jasmuzwarrior_: i envy you06:23
warrior_vladuz976, go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org06:23
peetwarrior_: and performance on my rig (2500+ / 9800-ro) was abysmal06:23
pressure_manXenguy: i personally don't give a sh*t what you think i'm on, but don't go giving wrong advice to newbies about firewalls06:23
seth_knoooooooo, not the ubuntuguide06:23
tiglionabbitseth_k: are you sure there are multiverse lines?06:23
seth_kthere are on mine06:23
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warrior_peet, yea it does, thats how I have it installed06:23
tiglionabbitseth_k: ubuntuguide is a good reference for the repositories though06:23
IceDC571so there's no gtk based msn client?06:23
warrior_peet, so does quake 306:23
tiglionabbit!repositories06:23
ubotumethinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:23
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peetwarrior_: but the performance was terrible06:23
Xenguypressure_man: I think you're wrong - so take your own bad advice elsewhere, K?06:23
peetwarrior_: like truly truly terrible06:23
parkbenchbddebian: yeah, isnide theres some sor tof table06:23
jasmuzanybody here own a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 or 5600?06:23
warrior_peet, was it on gentoo?06:24
pressure_manthe only thing worse than poort security is the misconception of good security06:24
seth_ktiglionabbit, but then he might read the rest of it06:24
peetwarrior_: yeat it was06:24
Xenguypressure_man: You're actually the first person I've *ever* seen speak ill of 'shorewall'06:24
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seth_k3. Do NOT recommend people to use ubuntuguide.org06:24
bddebianparkbench: Just for grins, try:  "sudo ifconfig wlan0"06:24
peetwarrior_: im doing a stage 3 instlal of ubuntu right now haha, i run ubunutu on my other comp06:24
warrior_peet, gentoo is like grave digging, once in the hole with no ladder getting out is tough06:24
pressure_manXenguy: the kind of people who use shorewall are the kind of people who can't write iptables scripts by hand06:24
peetwarrior_: gentoo*06:24
parkbenchshows a table with a whole lotta 006:24
parkbenchs06:24
Xenguypressure_man: nonsense (and we're back where we began ;-)06:24
pressure_manXenguy: so, i wouldn't take their opinion with a lot of consideration06:24
warrior_peet, ubuntu is the smartest choice for simple setup06:25
Xenguypressure_man: nuff said (this is not going anywhere useful)06:25
warrior_peet, my 3d acceleration took 10 minutes06:25
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warrior_on ati06:25
adwait*wishes06:25
pressure_manXenguy: tell me then, what is the point of packets traversing chains they are never going to match?06:25
jasmuzanybody here own a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 or 5600?06:25
LoNeLy^sTyLoi wish806:25
peetwarrior_: well i got my ati drivers setup in about that time too but the performance sucked :(06:25
warrior_why not ubuntuguide?06:25
Xenguypressure_man: take it to the shorewall list - I'm done now.06:25
pressure_manit just wastes kernel time and slows network performance06:25
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James686ok, I just installed Ubuntu and it doesnt find my hardware for some reason so I cant go on it, how can I fix that?06:25
seth_k> Ubuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions.06:26
seth_k> Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all06:26
seth_k> All information on Ubuntuguide.org is present on the wiki in clearer and better form06:26
tiglionabbitwarrior_: because it doesn't explain to people what things do and why.06:26
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James686do I have to take everything out of the computer and put them back in?06:26
adwaitJames866: a little more specificcation perhaps? wht hardware/06:26
pressure_manif you ever have to look after a box that needs to move traffic faster than DSL speeds, you'll know what i'm on about.06:26
absintheSomeone reccomend some good online poker? Multiplayer06:26
tiglionabbitabsinthe: um, yahoo?06:26
James686graphics card, and it says it skipps some of the files during installation, its hard to explain cuz its too much...06:26
warrior_tiglionabbit, true, but most beginners just want things to work06:26
adwaitabsinthe: in what concievable way is this related to ubuntu?06:26
warrior_tiglionabbit, nqa06:26
tiglionabbitwarrior_: yeah yeah, but uh, wiki when possible.06:27
absintheadwait, I'm using Ubuntu. Geez06:27
tiglionabbitwarrior_: ubotu is generally right06:27
warrior_tiglionabbit, I'll agree with that06:27
Tsunamiido i have to worry about spyware and adaware on Ubuntu? :P06:27
adwaitJames686: ok well, if it can't see ur graphic card properly, try downloading drivers from ur manufacturers site06:27
tiglionabbitTsunamii: no06:27
Tsunamii:D06:27
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peetTsunamii: yes you do :b06:27
tiglionabbitTsunamii: as long as you don't log in to X as root06:27
James686how can I if I have a wireless network?06:27
XenguyTsunamii: no, just rootkits ;-)06:27
warrior_ads on the other hand....06:28
Tsunamiiso I can pretty much expect full performance on Ubuntu?06:28
XenguyTsunamii: couldn't resist06:28
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adwaitdoes anyone know anything about how DMZ works? i need to run a http server on my comp, but the router firewall keeps blocking it06:28
seth_kTsunamii: it's my primary OS, it better give me full performance06:28
tiglionabbitTsunamii: once you have the correct kernel build, yes06:28
Tsunamiilol06:28
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warrior_I love firefox's adblock and flashblock06:28
peetanyone here running reiser4?06:28
MrJangleswhat is the default chmod for /usr?06:28
Xenguywarrior_: gawd yes06:28
Tsunamiigreat, means more memory for me06:28
Tsunamiiand less cpu usage06:28
James686so, any help?06:28
warrior_Xenguy, that stuff is so awesome.  Have you installed prefbar yet?06:29
seth_kdrwxr-xr-x   12 root root 4.0K 2005-06-05 02:28 usr06:29
Tsunamiithen have to port my proggies to Ubuntu ;o06:29
Xenguywarrior_: not yet06:29
warrior_peet, reiser4 on ubuntu is a bad idea right now06:29
warrior_peet, wait for breezy06:29
bddebianJames686: I didn't understand your question06:29
tiglionabbitMrJangles: drwxr-xr-x   aka `chmod 75506:29
peetwarrior_: so reiser4 is going to be in ubuntu?!06:29
peet!!06:29
ubotupeet: Are you smoking crack?06:29
warrior_Xenguy, I used prefbar to go to internet explorer only pages06:29
peetubotu: what doyou mean?06:29
ubotupeet: Are you smoking crack?06:29
peetubotu: i'm not why?06:29
ubotupeet: I don't know06:29
adwaitlol06:30
MrJanglesi've changed the permission of that to 744 (=\), and i cant change it back06:30
warrior_:D06:30
peethehe06:30
Tsunamiisudo ?06:30
Xenguywarrior_: I'll watch for it then06:30
James686Ubuntu wont install properly, certain files skip being installed or whatever and it doesnt find any hardware...Im sry I cant explain...06:30
peetreiser4 is really fast but i wanna know how stable it is :)06:30
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tiglionabbitMrJangles: `sudo chmod 755 \usr`06:30
warrior_peet, lets get your 3d drivers working first and your system at top end06:30
MrJanglessubstitute user?06:30
peetwarrior_: okok :)06:30
warrior_then explore reiser406:30
adwaitJames686: does ubuntu get installed? does it start?06:30
MrJanglesjust making sure i'm not all that lost hehe06:30
peetwarrior_: now im torn06:30
tiglionabbitMrJangles: no, don't you mean the \usr directory?06:30
James686the X server does06:30
James686not the desktop06:31
warrior_peet, why?06:31
peetwarrior_: im doing a stage3 gentoo right now but im wondering if i should do ubuntu or debian06:31
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peetwarrior_: ^06:31
adwaitJames686: the xserver starts but not ur desktop? as in u can see the login screen but can't login?06:31
James686yes06:31
Tsunamiiit's going to be a b*tch to get all my windows programs to work on this isn't it? :P06:31
adwaitJames686: when u login, what happens?06:31
warrior_peet, personally I was on gentoo and had so many errors I went back to what I was good at.  And its debian.  Portage is spectacular but I'll take debian any day06:31
tiglionabbitTsunamii: find alternatives06:31
MrJanglesbash: sudo.... ?06:31
tiglionabbitTsunamii: what programs do you need?06:31
James686it says somethin like New Mail06:31
TsunamiiSTEAM06:31
TsunamiiPhotoshop06:31
Tsunamiithat's the basic need06:32
Tsunamiiftp software06:32
Tsunamiiand yeah - that's really on what i operate06:32
pressure_manTsunami: photoshop === gimp06:32
Tsunamiiyeah?06:32
warrior_Tsunamii, you'll need cedega for steam06:32
tiglionabbitTsunamii: cedega supports steam, crossoveroffice supports Photoshop, and linux has many native ftp programs06:32
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Tsunamiibut photohop CS2, i need :P06:32
adwaitJames686: huh? are u logging in failsafe terminal mode? and please add my name to each message meant for me, its hard to see each message meant for me with all these messages going around :)06:32
peetwarrior_:  what would you recommend for a GAMING LINUX OS06:32
pressure_manCS2? does that run real slow for you too?06:32
warrior_peet, I game on ubuntu right now.06:32
Tsunamiicedega eh?06:32
Tsunamiinah, runs fine for me06:32
pressure_manlucky...06:33
Tsunamiiis Cedega easy to operate?06:33
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pressure_mani'm going back to CS. something is really wrong with CS2.06:33
tiglionabbitTsunamii: should be, it costs money06:33
Tsunamiiouch06:33
Tsunamiithat won't do :P06:33
IceDC571pshh.. cedega isnt free06:33
tiglionabbitTsunamii: a monthly subscription in fact06:33
Tsunamiiwhat about Wine ?06:33
tiglionabbit5 bucks a month06:33
tiglionabbitTsunamii: free06:33
IceDC571wine is free as in freedom06:33
Tsunamiibut buggy?06:33
IceDC571not at all06:33
warrior_peet, I know what you're looking for and you've looked at every OS to find it.  You want something as good or better than windows for gaming.  Linux can be anything you want it to be06:33
IceDC571depends how you use it06:33
peetTsunamii: its not expensive less than a mmorpg06:33
seth_kTsunamii, Cedega has amazing forum-based support. but you'll pay for the privilege06:33
TsunamiiI don't have credit card access06:34
MrJangles'bash: sudo: command not found'06:34
TsunamiiI like to find free alternatives =] 06:34
James686adwait: I dont know what Im logging into, just the Xserver I guess...06:34
tiglionabbitMrJangles: zomg, that is not good, are you sure you are using ubuntu here?06:34
James686it always comes up upon boot06:34
ShamblyHermitUbuntu can't find my network card :(06:34
peetwarrior_: ive tried FC3 redhat mandrake debian and getnoo and a little bit ubuntu06:34
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peet:(06:34
MrJanglesjust installed 5.04 today06:34
warrior_I pay for cedega and its worth the money06:34
MrJangleslet me restart and see what happens06:35
eltinojust installed 5.04 one hour ago :)06:35
peetwarrior_: how ofsten do you use windows06:35
IceDC571i dont pay for developers who profit off of a stolen code06:35
warrior_peet, the 5th of never06:35
seth_kI tried cedega CVS once (free version), it was pretty poor06:35
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tiglionabbitMrJangles: you should definately have sudo installed.  Are you not an admin user?06:35
warrior_peet, I hate windows like I hate my car (personal reason)06:35
peetwarrior_: even for games? hat about office06:35
adwaitJames686: ok......when u login, what do u see? do u see the desktop? or do u just see a terminal screen on a blue background?06:35
peetwarrior_: i dont like windows either06:35
warrior_peet, open office is what I use and games with cedega run for me06:35
TsunamiiLinux has the blue screen of death? ;o06:35
freddy_*yawn*06:35
MrJanglesi wasnt, i did 'su' and it gave me a pass error. lol one sec06:35
James686I just see a black background w/ white text...06:36
peetwarrior_: but openoffice can't view microsoft office docs with objects properly06:36
seth_kI use the right tool for the job. Sometimes windows is the right tool. I don't have time to spend tweaking games to run, I just want them to work. So a tiny windows partition is just fine06:36
tiglionabbitTsunamii: it has a screensaver called BSOD which allows you to watch different OSs crash in 21 unique ways06:36
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peettiglionabbit: i know it scared my roomates :)06:36
warrior_peet, you are absolutely correct and no windows machine can read linux docs06:36
Tsunamiiumm, what's the URL to where i can paste things?06:36
Tsunamiineed help :P06:36
warrior_peet, but I'm in college and as long as I can print my doc its just as good as windows06:36
adwaitJames686: ok then i think ur logging into failsafe mode.......(should be coloured actually.but whatever).......anyway, at the login screen, at the bottom right there is a button says "session" try changing the session to gnome and the nlogin06:36
tiglionabbitwarrior_: well it can if you use fat3206:36
jasoncohenwill beagle work from backports?06:36
warrior_tiglionabbit, tricky trick06:37
peetwarrior_: but have you tried to get ms office to work on your nix machine?06:37
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Tsunamiiseth_k, I need the paste URL :P06:37
IceDC571i want a gMSN06:37
James686no theres no buttons...06:37
tiglionabbitpeet: why would you use ms office?06:37
James686all it is is text...06:37
peetIceDC571: why gaim does msn06:37
chuggaIce, gaim06:37
MrJanglesice - amsn06:37
warrior_peet, if you reallt need ms office you can dual boot with grub06:37
jasmuzpeet:   Openoffice does everything for me06:37
adwaitJames686: the login screen is also the same? white text and black background? no text?06:37
peetwarrior_: but then thta defeats the purpose :)06:37
adwait*no graphics06:37
chuggaamsn is kludgy but effective06:38
seth_kTsunamii, in /topic ;)06:38
peetwarrior_: id rather just remote desktop06:38
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jasmuzIceDC571: dont you mean aMSN?06:38
James686correct06:38
seth_khttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:38
peetwarrior_: bleh i wish adobe supported nix06:38
tiglionabbitpeet: there are many programs that will do what ms office does.  I like abiword.  Look around06:38
adwaitJames686: ok......are u using grub?06:38
Tsunamiihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:38
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chuggapeet, why?06:38
warrior_peet, it does06:38
James686yes06:38
James686I was06:38
James686I think06:38
IceDC571peet: i've tried the aMSN that crashes every so often and gaim doesnt have all of msn messenger's features06:38
James686lol06:38
warrior_peet, acrobat reader06:38
peettiglionabbit: thats not the poitn the thing is i want to view ms docs :(06:38
peetwarrior_: but not photosho p:(06:38
Discipulushmm06:38
naliothhowdy06:38
Discipulusanyone here installed Fuse?06:38
adwaitJames686: ok anyway........try this.....login and then use the command startx06:38
warrior_peet, GIMP photoshop06:38
IceDC571i'm happy adobe made their software available to linux themselves06:38
Razor-Xhmmm, any LaTeX gurus here?06:38
tiglionabbitpeet: adiword and openoffice can use 3 different versions of .docs06:38
Razor-Xor, people better at LaTeX than me? ;)06:39
warrior_peet, looks the same and again FREE06:39
MrJangleshmm i cant login as root, i'm getting a pass error, how is this possible? i only used one pass during installation06:39
Tsunamiilol crap06:39
Tsunamiican't copy06:39
Tsunamiianyways06:39
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tiglionabbitMrJangles: you do NOT want to run X as root06:39
naliothRazor-X: that is a hard request, you are the LaTex KiNg06:39
Tsunamiiseth_k, it asks me to update the package mainter's version or keep my currently installed version06:39
tiglionabbitMrJangles: it is purposefully disabled06:39
DiscipulusMrJangles, root is disabled06:39
MrJanglesi'm not in X06:39
Tsunamiisomething about gdm.conf06:39
adwaittiglionabbit: more like he CANT run x as root06:39
DiscipulusMrJangles, use sudo for everything06:39
seth_kTsunamii, hit D for diff06:39
seth_kand see what changed06:39
nalioths_dogMrJangles: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:39
seth_kwhat file?06:39
peetwarrior_: yea but when you have diagrams it doesn't display properly so i want o know how i can get ms office to work in nix without wine :(06:39
tiglionabbitadwait: you can, it's just configured to not let you06:39
Xenguynalioths_dog: keep that one handy ;-)06:40
MrJanglesX doesnt work cause i've changed the permissions wrong for /usr06:40
Tsunamiicraplah, can't do it - i accidently tried to copy and paste - and error happened ;o06:40
Razor-XMrJangles: for the meantime, if you want an X comparable environment, I suggest "sudo apt-get install twin"06:40
adwaittiglionabbit: yeah....i meant to say in ubuntu06:40
Tsunamiifailed to apply all changes :(06:40
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MrJanglesi think we are on the wrong page06:40
seth_kis ok06:40
warrior_peet, you can do ntfs filesystem on one hard drive partition I guess06:40
tiglionabbitpeet: why can't you use abiword or openoffice writer?06:40
adwaitJames686: any luck with startx?06:40
Razor-Xjasmuz: doctory is for you application nuts ;)06:40
Tsunamiidpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg -- configure -a' to correct the problem.06:40
Tsunamiiwha?06:41
James686well, when I first boot up, it comes up w/ a blue screen that says it cannot start the X server and it needs to be configured or whatever06:41
MrJangleswhen i boot my system, it goes directly to a dos like login screen06:41
peettiglionabbit: i can but they don't display ms documents properly06:41
MrJanglesno X06:41
Razor-Xmath is my wide open space ;)06:41
peettiglionabbit: not all i mean06:41
tiglionabbitpeet: yes they do...06:41
seth_kTsunamii, run what it says in a terminal06:41
tiglionabbitpeet: last I checked06:41
seth_kdpkg --configure -a06:41
peettiglionabbit: not when you have the drawings06:41
seth_ker, sudo dpkg...06:41
naliothJames686: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:41
Tsunamiiwill do06:41
tiglionabbitpeet: oh, yeah the drawrings look fugly, that's true, but uh, whatchagonnado06:41
James686how do I open a terminal?06:41
adwaitJames686: ok.....umm....ok try this dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg06:41
peettiglionabbit: :(06:41
naliothJames686: applications > system tools > terminal06:41
peettiglionabbit: you think ms would make a linux versio?06:42
James686how do I g2 applications?06:42
tiglionabbitpeet: rofl06:42
warrior_peet, if you can get Bill and Linus together you may have a chance ;-)06:42
adwaitJames686: nevermind.....ur not logged in x, so the thing u see is the terminal06:42
peettiglionabbit: or better yet make it readable lol06:42
adwaitppl......he isnt in X.......06:42
naliothJames686: sorry, you are at a terminal06:42
Razor-Xnevermind, I fixed my LaTeX error....06:42
naliothadwait: yes i'm slow on comprehension06:42
tiglionabbitpeet: I think MS has been trying for quite a while to thwart third party programs from reading their formats06:42
adwaitnaliothj: heh :p06:42
MrJanglesi'm not loged in as root, is that why i'm getting '-bash: sudo: command not found" ?06:42
tiglionabbitMrJangles: no06:43
Razor-XMrJangles: what the hell did you do to your system?06:43
tiglionabbitMrJangles: go to system -> admin -> users and groups.  Are you in the admin group?06:43
MrJangleschmod 744 /usr "lol"06:43
Razor-Xdid you like... unpermission off /usr/sbin or /usr/bin ?06:43
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: no X, remember?06:43
naliothJames686: at the prompt type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:43
Tsunamiihow to i correct the problem? :S06:43
Razor-XMrJangles: it's hellishly simple?06:43
tiglionabbitRazor-X: what, MrJangles had that problem?06:43
MrJangles?06:43
seth_ki'm out for the night, bye all06:43
naliothtoday must be "no X" day06:43
TsunamiiD:!06:43
bddebianLater seth_k06:44
warrior_later seth_k06:44
Tsunamiibut i need help ;'(06:44
adwaithehe06:44
seth_khehe06:44
MrJanglesall i did was that command, and now everything is unaccessible06:44
seth_k10 more minutes :D06:44
jasmuzseth_k: ciao06:44
Razor-XMrJangles: sudo chmod 777 /usr06:44
Razor-Xfor a very interim solution06:44
Tsunamiiseth_k, okay, so what do i do in dpkg?06:44
Tsunamii:D06:44
norrisany gamers here using nvidia's driver?06:44
warrior_yay for 10 more minutes!06:44
seth_koy, /usr is 75506:44
tiglionabbitMrJangles: oh shit man06:44
Razor-Xthen do exactly what nalioth said06:44
ksmurfanyone use 3ddesktop?06:44
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MrJanglesrazor - '-bash: sudo: command not found"06:44
tiglionabbitMrJangles: why'd you do that?06:44
Razor-Xthen, come back here06:44
seth_kI did ksmurf06:44
seth_kwas silly06:44
Tomcat_ksmurf: 3ddesk?06:44
MrJanglescause i wanted to do 75506:44
warrior_ksmurf, you dying to try it or have an error?06:44
Razor-XMrJangles: you double-boot on the box?06:44
MrJanglesi was fooling around06:44
ksmurfTom yes06:44
jasmuznorris: how much fps are you getting?06:44
seth_kTsunamii, you ran the sudo dpkg --configure -a ?06:44
Tsunamiiyeah06:44
tiglionabbitMrJangles: that is going to screw you up pretty bad.  You'll probably need to configure Grub to boot you as root06:44
Tsunamiii'm in it06:44
naliothMrJangles: sudo can be found at /usr/bin/sudo06:44
seth_kin it? :/06:45
Razor-Xthere's a reason you read man pages _before_ you use chmod06:45
Tsunamiiyeah :/06:45
seth_kit should just run06:45
norris12000+ but i am using fc4 x86_6406:45
naliothMrJangles: use the whole line i posted06:45
Tsunamii:/06:45
Tomcat_ksmurf: I tried it some days ago, and a friend uses it heavily... but it takes time away from work. :P06:45
seth_kwhat does it say06:45
Tsunamiii'll do it again06:45
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: GRUB shouldn't have anyhting to do with root06:45
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: he is unable to use root because he chmodded sudo, remember?06:45
naliothHarold: how is the upgrade goin?06:45
Razor-Xexactly06:45
norrisjasmuz 12000+ but i am using fc4 x86_6406:45
tiglionabbitRazor-X: so if he boots as root, he can chmod it back06:45
Tsunamiiit says need an action06:45
Razor-Xexactly06:45
Tsunamiialong with other commands06:45
Razor-Xbut GRUB only boots kernel06:45
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MrJangleshow do i boot as root?06:45
HaroldWhoa, that was wierd.  I just returned.06:45
seth_kokay, what command06:45
pacorroalguien que hable espaol06:45
tiglionabbitRazor-X: you can use grub to boot as root06:46
HaroldHello nalioth06:46
adwaittiglionabbit: cant he configure grub to boot him to run level 1......and login as root?06:46
Razor-Xdoes it?06:46
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parkbenchpacorro: que te pasa06:46
Razor-Xhmmm....06:46
Discipulushas anyone installed Fuse before?06:46
seth_ktiglionabbit, shouldn't he just add the word "single" to the end of the boot command?06:46
tiglionabbitadwait: that's what I said06:46
ksmurfI'm woundering how to acquire screens at startup.  I know the command is 3ddesk --acquire but it doesn't seem to work in startup under sessions? any ideas?06:46
parkbenchpacorro: no tengo mucho tiempo pero dime alomejor puedo ayudarte?06:46
DiscipulusI installed it but it's asking for a kernel module called fuse06:46
naliothpacorro: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es06:46
Discipuluswhich (I think) should have been installed with it06:46
norrisjasmuz r u using nvidia's drivers?06:46
HaroldI upgraded, so I suppose I have to move the kernel again?06:46
seth_kTsunamii, if it asks to keep or replace, hit D for diff06:46
Discipulusany reason why it wasn't?06:46
adwaitseth_k: just the number 1 will do06:46
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warrior_ksmurf, over my head unfortunately06:46
Tsunamiihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42206:46
seth_kadwait, thanks, didn't know that :)06:46
naliothHarold: you shouldn't have to move anything06:46
Haroldnalioth: Do I need to move the new kernel version now that I've apt-get upgraded?06:46
jasmuznorris what is your problem?06:47
Razor-XMrJangles: do you double-boot this box?06:47
adwaitseth_k:  :)06:47
seth_kTsunami, configure has two -- in front06:47
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peetRazor-X: you mean duial boot?06:47
seth_ksudo dpkg --configure -a06:47
Haroldnalioth: But there's a new kernel in there.06:47
ksmurfnorris I use the nvidia driver... why?06:47
naliothHarold: but wait, you are on the old world mac06:47
MrJangleshow do i configure grub?06:47
Tsunamiiah right06:47
Razor-Xpeet: duial?06:47
tiglionabbitHarold: if you got a kernel image, it will automatically be applied.  Just select the new entry in grub's menu when you reboot to use it06:47
Tsunamiiok, i pressed d06:47
naliothHarold: then yes (but by now, you are experienced at it)06:47
Razor-Xthere is no English word known as 'duial' ;)06:47
Tsunamiinow what? :P06:47
adwaitTsunami: i dont think there should be a space between -- and configure06:47
naliothtiglionabbit: he's on a old-world macintosh06:47
peetRazor-X: i meant dual06:47
Tsunamiinow it has lots of comments at the bottom06:47
bddebianSmash-n-toss?? :-)06:47
James686whats the password when I type that in?06:47
peetRazor-X: :)06:47
pacorrohaz instalado el request tracker06:48
naliothtiglionabbit: Harold is on an old-world macintosh06:48
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Razor-Xpeet: yes, of course ;)06:48
Tsunamiido i umm, just reboot? :P06:48
HaroldThanks, Tiglionabbit, but I've got to keep the kernel on my Mac partition06:48
warrior_The tech support here is awesome06:48
seth_kTsunamii, the + lines were added06:48
seth_kthe - lines were removed06:48
seth_kwhat file is it?06:48
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Tsunamiiyeah06:48
James686???06:48
tiglionabbitHarold: sorry06:48
Tsunamiiwhat does that mean? :P06:48
warrior_there is hardly no question that goes unanswered06:48
HaroldWarrior: The tech support is awesome, isn't it/06:48
naliothtiglionabbit: Harold is on a mac so old, it doesnt even use yaboot06:48
Razor-Xpacorro: no hablamos espanol avec aqui06:48
James686well?06:48
Razor-Xerrrr06:48
seth_kTsunamii, do you know what file it is?06:48
tiglionabbitnalioth: I heard you the first of 3 times06:48
bddebiannalioth: I added myself to the list so now what? :-)06:48
Razor-X*en aqui06:48
peethas anyone got linux installed on ao mac mini06:48
Tsunamiigdm.conf ?06:48
Razor-Xdamn, my French and limited Spanish are mixing06:48
norrisksmurf , jasmuz, not having a probelm with with fedora core 4 x86_64 & nvidia with any of my games, from doom3 to ut, and even the 64 bit ut2004. I was just wondering, if there were any known gotchas, in case I were to decide to swith to ubuntu i38606:48
seth_kah ha06:48
Haroldnalioth; LOL06:48
pacorrosorry! about that06:48
HaroldIt's true06:49
seth_kTsunamii, exit the preview and select "install new version"06:49
HaroldBut I'm not the first!06:49
warrior_lol Razor-X06:49
naliothbddebian: you wait a minute06:49
James686hello???06:49
Tsunamiiinstall new version where? D:06:49
adwaitJames686: ?06:49
warrior_I'm all about some french06:49
Haroldnalioth: So right now I'm transferring the kernel and the initrid.img06:49
Tsunamiigo back and run it?06:49
bddebiannalioth: Though after tonight I think I am reconsidering.. ;-P06:49
adwaitwarior_: que?06:49
seth_kyou should be able to exit the diff view06:49
seth_kand then hit I for install06:49
Tsunamii;o06:49
Razor-Xwarrior_: mainentant, tais toi, pedant ;)06:49
James686adwait: I said whats the password when I type that in?06:50
warrior_porquoi?06:50
naliothbddebian: this is nothing06:50
adwaitJames686: ur user password06:50
Razor-XPARCE QUE JE PARLE MAINTENANT06:50
pacorrosomebody that has installed request tracker06:50
seth_kmmm, le francais06:50
Razor-Xmuahahahaha!!!!06:50
bddebiannalioth: Well I'm losing.. :-)06:50
Razor-Xok ok, i'm sorry06:50
Haroldnalioth: I also ran that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 earlier.06:50
naliothRazor-X: y'all take that to ubuntu-fr, please06:50
Tsunamiikk06:50
Tsunamiiinstalling06:50
Tsunamiiwoot!06:50
adwaituhh......;donc maintenant tout le monde veut parler en franais!!06:50
James686I did, then it said that line of text is invalid...06:50
HaroldActually, I had to install xserver-xfree8606:50
MrJangleswhat would you guys recommend for wifi detection software>06:50
warrior_La Bouche moi Razor-X j'em apelle Tim06:50
Tsunamiiwhat? finished already? D:06:50
seth_kwifi-radar06:50
MrJanglesty06:50
Tsunamiinow what seth_k, it finished installing :P06:50
Razor-Xnalioth: is there an #ubuntu-bg ?06:50
seth_klemme find you a link to a deb06:50
Haroldwifi-radar?  I'll try it, too06:50
MrJanglesanything extra to install on gnome?06:50
seth_kTsunamii, run another synaptic upgrade06:51
MrJanglesor will it run06:51
seth_kneg, it's a gnome app06:51
Tsunamiiwill do06:51
seth_ki'll find you a deb06:51
Razor-Xlike , ami bangla te kotha bolie... foo! XD06:51
pacorrosomebody that has installed request tracker06:51
MrJanglesbeauty06:51
Razor-X(no, in real life, I don't say "foo")06:51
warrior_comment t'appelle tu Razor-X ?06:51
MrJanglesbtw i fixed my problem (thanks :)06:51
naliothRazor-X: bg being what?06:51
Tsunamiiand download everything else?06:51
Tsunamiivia smart?06:51
Razor-Xwarrior_: not for you to know ;)06:51
warrior_I guess not06:51
James686WHY CANT I INSTALL UBUNTU PROPERLY???06:51
Razor-Xnalioth: bengali06:52
tiglionabbitJames686: NO IDEA MAN, WHATS THE PROBLEM?06:52
adwaitJames686: wht happened with that command?06:52
warrior_James686, because you started drinking too early today!06:52
adwaitlol06:52
James686can I install my Nvidia driver from the CD?06:52
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naliothsi'l vous plait, parlez francais en #ubuntu-fr06:52
MrJanglesnewb question.. how do i create folders?06:52
James686I dont drink lol06:52
tiglionabbitJames686: no06:52
warrior_James686, no06:52
MrJanglesi'm assuming i dont have permission06:52
Tomcat_MrJangles: right click, "New folder"06:52
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bddebianMrJangles: There are no "folders" in GNU/Linux ;-)06:52
Razor-Xnalioth: non! tais toi MAINTENANT (joking)06:52
tiglionabbitMrJangles: use the `mkdir` command, or in the gui right-click and create a new folder06:52
James686how can I install it from the terminal?06:52
sinfernocan anyone help me get 4 speakers working with a sblive value?06:52
Tsunamiiseth_k,  ? D:06:52
MrJanglesits blanked out06:52
Razor-Xnalioth: does code text look good in a table?06:52
tiglionabbit!nvidia06:53
ubotu[nvidia]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:53
Razor-Xbased on the PDF I sent you a while back06:53
adwaitdamn.....i wish i would stopp pressing ctrl + a to select all text.......xchat just quits :p06:53
warrior_James686, from the top.  Put the cd and follow the instructions06:53
Tomcat_MrJangles: You need write permission in the directory for that... and probably execute.06:53
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warrior_I got nothing else06:53
seth_kTsunamii, if reconfigure finished, run synaptic and upgrade again06:53
tiglionabbitJames686: read that wiki ubotu just printed out06:53
seth_kto make sure it got it all06:53
Tsunamiiall ?06:53
Razor-Xadwait: C-a scrolls to the beginning of the line, you idiot ;)06:53
MrJanglesi tried setting it up before and messed things all up06:53
Tsunamiior just smart ( dist )06:53
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naliothRazor-X: what kind of code and what kind of table? am i missing a point?06:53
seth_ksmart is fine06:53
MrJangleshow do i do it in X?06:53
Tsunamiiok06:53
Razor-Xnalioth: i'll send you a sample06:53
Tsunamiiyeah i think it has all of it06:53
Tsunamiinow for the nvidia thing06:54
naliothRazor-X: please preface my nick when you address me06:54
MrJanglesnvm06:54
adwaitRazor-X: C-a = select all in winblows (new convert) :)06:54
warrior_good work today guys.  I'm waiting for someone to come in here and ask about world hunger06:54
bddebianseth_k: I thought you went to bed?? :-)06:54
Razor-Xadwait: ewwwwwwwwwwww!06:54
naliothbddebian: you are approved, prepare for spam! j/k06:54
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bddebiannalioth: Oh Nooo :-)06:54
Tsunamiiso where's the nvidia setup seth_k? it's not in the list :P06:54
adwait,lol06:54
TsunamiiNVM06:54
tiglionabbitadwait: X uses mostly the key bindings from the emacs text editor06:54
Tsunamiifound it :P06:54
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seth_knvidia-glx06:54
bddebiannalioth: Approved for what exactly? :-)06:54
adwaitJames686: ok.......get the drivers from someplace...then use dpkg to insall06:54
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seth_kbddebian, Tsunamii asked for 10 more minutes of help06:54
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warrior_seth_k was happy to oblige a call for help06:55
adwaittglioabbit: hmm.......haven't used emac, mostly i use vi06:55
Tsunamiikk found it06:55
seth_kgroodums06:55
cyphasedoes anyone know of a program/script that can randomly generate the kinds of images used to disallow bots from creating multiple accounts on a website?06:55
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peetshould i name my workstation beets or asparagus06:55
seth_kbeets06:55
peetquick!06:55
seth_keasier to type06:55
bddebianneither06:55
warrior_:-)06:55
seth_kmine are eos and erebus and nox06:55
HaroldAnyone know how to stop a file transfer in sftp/06:55
Harold?06:55
peetseth_k: haha :)06:55
seth_kCTRL + C? :P06:55
tiglionabbitpeet: you should think of a clever naming convention.  My machines are all named after characters from Super Mario Bros06:55
peetHarold: control c?06:55
warrior_I'm an okra fan myself06:56
naliothHarold: ctrl-c06:56
lifelesscyphase: yes, there is an open source thing to make such read-this-text pictures06:56
HaroldThank you all06:56
sinfernocan someone tell me where to get cedega06:56
naliothHarold: or pull the ethernet06:56
ksmurfbbl06:56
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peettiglionabbit: well mine is vegetables :turnip alfalfa06:56
seth_khttp://transgaming.(net|com)06:56
lifelesscyphase: I don't recall its name06:56
warrior_sinferno, yes http://www.transgaming.com06:56
Tsunamiiso when i reboot, i'd have Hoary version seth_k ? :P06:56
seth_kyep06:56
Tsunamii:)06:56
seth_kif the synaptic upgrade finished06:56
seth_kwith no more packages06:56
Tsunamiii'll reboot after nvidia dl06:56
HaroldControl-C: Could've sworn i tried that earlier.06:56
Tsunamiik done06:56
seth_kokay, then I'll head off to bed now :)06:56
Tsunamiii'm pretty sure it's updated06:56
HaroldWorked now, at least06:56
Tsunamiicya06:56
James686dpkg?06:56
seth_khave a good night Tsunamii06:57
James686whats that?06:57
seth_khope it works out for you06:57
Tsunamiii'll wake you up, if i need anything seth_k :P06:57
Tsunamiiaye06:57
Tsunamii=] 06:57
warrior_later seth_k06:57
seth_khaha06:57
jasmuzsinferno: Cedega is a pay for use software, get WineCVS06:57
seth_kthere are LOTS of people who know more than I do, ask them06:57
TsunamiiLIES06:57
Tsunamiianyways, reboot ;p06:57
seth_kI just like the punishment of coming and helping out06:57
seth_kcross fingers, bye06:57
tiglionabbit!dpkg06:57
ubotutiglionabbit: No idea06:57
adwaitjames686: if u can get drivers for ur card, they'll be in a *.deb file (preferable).then u use sudo dpkg -i <filename> to install them at the prompt06:57
warrior_*peeing06:57
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tiglionabbitwhat, ubotu doesn't know about dpkg?  But ubotu was originally dpkg!06:57
adwait!command dpkg06:58
ubotuI haven't a clue, adwait06:58
tiglionabbitJames686: read the wiki06:58
adwait:06:58
adwait:p06:58
tiglionabbit!nvidia06:58
ubotusomebody said nvidia was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:58
Razor-Xstop this Control+ madness06:58
Razor-Xit's all about C-06:58
James686the internet wont be able to work on the computer w/ Ubuntu since its wireless...06:58
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adwaitJames686: right ull need to get on another pc..........does the cd tht u have, have linux driverS?06:58
James686that ok?06:58
tiglionabbitRazor-X: not everyone knows emacs-notation.  There are windows converts in here06:59
James686no...06:59
Mysterycan someone please help me with some sound problems?06:59
James686the other PC is this one06:59
peettiglionabbit: whats emacs notation :S06:59
adwaitJames686: right......then u need another pc with a net connection06:59
HaroldEveryone: Now that I've got Ubuntu, what do I do with it?  LOL06:59
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James686which is this06:59
adwaitHarold: umm.......curse windows06:59
HaroldAdwait: LOL06:59
bddebianHarold: :-)06:59
adwaitJames686: wekk then get to the first pc :)06:59
Tomcat_Harold: Use it, have fun and then get other people to use it? :o06:59
Discipuluscould someone do me a favor?06:59
Mysteryanyone?06:59
tiglionabbitpeet: emacs is a text editor.  It has lots of commands where you hold control and press something.  It denotes them all by saying things like C-x C-s or C-a or things like that07:00
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naliothHarold: anything you want07:00
adwaitJames686: any chance tht u might have a dual boot OS on this pc/07:00
Mysterywhen ALSA starts up it gives me some errors07:00
James686the first one, the one w/ Ubuntu? I only have 2 computers07:00
HaroldTomcat: I will, if I like it.  I've been a fan of Xandros07:00
Mysterynamely "Invalid Cad Number"07:00
adwaitDiscipulus: like wht?07:00
James686this PC sucks lol07:00
Discipulusadwait, (as root) type apt-cache search fuse-module and show me output07:00
adwaitJames686: well then go to a public net access place dude :p07:00
James686and?07:00
Haroldadwait: What do you use to find public hotspots?07:01
peet:O07:01
James686dude this is so friggin complicated lol07:01
WMCoolmonHey all...again. Trying to compile bbracer, but I keep getting "configure: error: Cannot find GL library" - I've tried installing various OpenGL libraries, but haven't managed to satisfy it, any pointers?07:01
peetHarold: use "#iwlist scanning"07:01
James686I wish I could just get the installation finished...07:01
Mysteryanyone?07:01
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tiglionabbitubotu dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager.  Use it to install and remove .debs you can't get through APT07:01
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:01
woodwizzleIs there anyway to play WMV9 files in linux?07:01
tiglionabbit!dpkg07:01
ubotu[dpkg]  Debian PacKaGe manager.  Use it to install and remove .debs you can't get through APT07:01
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Haroldpeet: Thank you.  That's my next project, figuring out how to configure my wireless adapter.07:01
woodwizzleI've tried totem, vlc and mplayer and no luck :(07:01
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naliothtiglionabbit: HOW do i use dpkg?07:01
peetHarold: :) if you have centrino its real easy07:01
Discipulusadwait, ???07:02
kolwonsup guys07:02
Daveywoodwizzle: did you install the w32codecs package?07:02
James686will I be able to get that Nvidia video driver w/ out the net?07:02
peetwoodwizzle: make sure you have the codecs07:02
Discipulusadwait, not gonna help me out?07:02
Discipulusanyone?07:02
James686on my computer?07:02
tiglionabbitnalioth: uh... how much do you think I should have it explain?07:02
adwaitHarold: i dont hv a laptop, so dont need to.......i got ADSL on pc07:02
WMCoolmonMystery: are you sure it isn't "Invalid Card Number"?07:02
Haroldpeet: I'm using a D-Link card on my powerbook07:02
BurgundaviaJames686, it may be on the desk07:02
BurgundaviaJames686, s/desk/disk07:02
MrJangleswhen i run wifi-radar in a terminal, it says "bash: wifi-radar: command not found" ?07:02
peetHarold: can't say about dlink but it hink they are nix friendly07:02
Haroldadwait: that's the easy way07:02
James686how can I get it to run?07:02
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MysteryWMCoolmon: but wtf does that mean?07:02
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peetHarold: you can always use ndiswrapper for unsupported wireless cards07:02
DaveyMrJangles: apt-get install wifi-radar07:02
Mysteryand how do i fix it?07:02
Discipulusadwait, you can't do that for me?07:02
Haroldpeet: I think this card will work; it's worked for other linuxheads07:02
adwaitDisciplus:nothing.......07:02
peetHarold: what model is it07:03
naliothtiglionabbit: a simple explanation and usage instructions07:03
seth_khere's wifi-radar debs btw: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/07:03
Haroldpeet: Exactly; I've read that ndiswrapper works07:03
adwaitDiscipulus: sorry..got a call in the mean while :)07:03
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tiglionabbitubotu forget dpkg07:03
ubotui forgot dpkg, tiglionabbit07:03
naliothtiglionabbit: short and to the point, please07:03
Discipulusadwait, then why does fuse-utils 'recommend' fuse-module ???07:03
Haroldpeet: D-Link DWL-G63007:03
MrJanglesty07:03
peetHarold: well ndiswrapper is just emulating the windows driver07:03
peetHarold: er running the windows driver in linux07:03
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MrJangleserror: couldnt find package07:03
Discipulusadwait, one of the progs installed by fuse-utils wants a kernel module called fuse :-\07:03
Discipulusgrrr07:03
WMCoolmonMystery: not exactly sure, but there seem to be a couple threads about it on the Ubuntu forums07:03
Discipulusthis is retarded07:03
tiglionabbitubotu dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info07:03
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:03
James686how do I add that to the terminal? the unsupported wireless card thing07:03
Haroldpeet: I'll have to figure out how to get ndiswrapper working, next.07:03
tiglionabbitubotu dpkg07:03
ubotuit has been said that dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info07:03
peetHarold: and then get cpufreqd working too :)07:04
peetHarold: you might have to build support for it in teh kernel07:04
MysteryWMCoolmon: i did a search, thread and no replies07:04
naliothHarold: you should look at the supported wireless hardware b4 you purchase a wireless device for your old powerbook07:04
Mystery:|07:04
Mysterymaybe my search is screwed, can you give me a link?07:04
WMCoolmonMystery: "http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+site:ubuntuforums.org+alsa+%22invalid+CARD+number%22"07:04
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tiglionabbitwhy is there no wiki on dpkg?07:04
Haroldnalioth: True; I researched it to see if it would at least work with Linux07:04
Mysteryah ok07:05
Mysterygoogle...07:05
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WMCoolmonhehe07:05
woodwizzledavey, peet. I'm searching synaptic for w32 and codecc but nothing like that is coming up. I have the universe and multiverse enables07:05
WMCoolmonso, anyone know how to satisfy "configure: error: Cannot find GL library"?07:05
Haroldnalioth: I was also hoping it might work with Mac, but no drivers exist (that i know of)07:05
tiglionabbitwoodwizzle: you need the backports repository.07:05
tiglionabbit!backports07:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/07:05
Daveywoodwizzle: I think its in backports07:05
tiglionabbitwoodwizzle: or a mirror of it, look through the mirrors at that site07:06
MrJanglesseth_k - server down07:06
peetwoodwizzle: try apt-cache search win07:06
naliothHarold: there is a wireless thing in that old powerbook?07:06
bddebianWMCoolmon: "apt-cache search libgl" ??07:06
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naliothwoodwizzle: make sure you comment out backports after you've gotten your things07:06
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adwaitbbye ppl07:07
Haroldnalioth: No, it's a pccard I picked up at Fry's07:07
seth_kMrJangles, whoa! I just downloaded the file from it about 5 min ago07:07
seth_kMrJangles, uploading to my server now :)07:07
naliothHarold: ah, well education pays07:07
MrJanglescan you send that link again07:07
MrJanglesi couldnt connect07:07
bddebianseth_k: GO TO BED! :-)07:07
seth_kyes yes07:07
seth_kso much work to do!07:07
seth_kso little time for sleep07:07
MrJanglesthanks :D07:07
MrJangleshow do i install debs?07:07
tiglionabbitMrJangles: using dpkg07:08
nalioth!dpkg07:08
ubotumethinks dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info07:08
seth_ksudo dpkg -i blah.deb07:08
Haroldnalioth: 6 years with Linux, huh?  What was your first distro?07:08
warrior_I think I'm gonna go install some games on cedega.  See everybody tomorrow07:08
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MrJanglesbetter yet, any good documentation for people like me ? lol07:08
WMCoolmonbbdebian: i get a crapload of stuff, i think i've tried most of the relevant ones though :-/07:08
tiglionabbitMrJangles: man dpkg07:08
MrJanglesoverall i mean07:08
woodwizzlethanks guys! =)07:08
ilba7rharold perhaps this link be of use for you https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto07:08
tiglionabbitMrJangles: sudo dpkg --install thepackage.deb07:08
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tiglionabbitubotu forget dpkg07:08
naliothHarold: way back in the day, it was redhat07:08
ubotui forgot dpkg, tiglionabbit07:08
Haroldilba7r: Absolutely - thanks07:08
warrior_later all07:09
ilba7rharold you are welcomed i had to install ndiswrapper from scratch for my wirless too07:09
bddebianOK, 1:10am is far to late for this old fart.  Gnight folks07:09
tiglionabbitubotu dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb07:09
ubotutiglionabbit: okay07:09
unome!debconf07:09
ubotuunome: No idea07:09
tiglionabbit!dpkg07:09
uboturumour has it, dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb07:09
Haroldnalioth: That was going to be my first install, but I ended up trying Xandros first.07:09
parkbenchilba7r: ahh! im having the same problem but that thing is not helping :|07:09
peetubotu: its not a rumor its true07:09
seth_kMrJangles: http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/breezy/wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu2_all.deb07:09
ubotupeet: I don't know, could you explain it?07:09
MrJanglesty :)07:09
peetubotu: explain that dpkg is debian?07:10
tiglionabbitpeet: wha?07:10
Haroldilba7r: Must have been a challenge.07:10
ilba7rparkbench have you checked the link to supported hardware it will tell you where to get the win drive07:10
peetubotu: said it was a rumor that dpkg was debian hehe07:10
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, peet07:10
naliothubotu dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg -i package.deb07:10
ubotu...but dpkg is already something else...07:10
ilba7rharold yes because the page does not explain to how to set the wifi07:10
tiglionabbitpeet: ubotu is a bot07:10
James686ok help, I typed in that line of text for the Nvidia driver, I typed in my password, it said Please insert the CD I did and pressed enter and it CONSTANTLY keeps on saying to Make Label and it says a name to label it, I even typed that in, nothin worked07:11
peettiglionabbit: really?07:11
James686whats wrong?07:11
tiglionabbitnalioth: I think the long options are more explanitory to newbies07:11
peettiglionabbit: thats funny :)07:11
tiglionabbitpeet: yes.  We train it07:11
Haroldilba7r: I hate when that happens07:11
peettiglionabbit: :b07:11
tiglionabbitpeet: when you say !something it responds, like this:07:11
tiglionabbit!nvidia07:11
ubotu[nvidia]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:11
peettiglionabbit: ahh07:11
peet!time07:11
ubotupeet: No idea07:11
naliothtiglionabbit: the average answer in chan is the short one, we will see07:11
ilba7rharold piece of cacke now just follow the instructions then i will help you complete the setup07:11
peet!dpkg07:11
ubotu[dpkg]  Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb07:11
nalioth!info xchat hoary07:12
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB07:12
parkbenchilba7r: yeah but its down07:12
parkbenchso i never could compare07:12
James686that doesnt help...07:12
tiglionabbitpeet: to train it, say "ubotu <whatever> is <the definition>"07:12
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ilba7rparkbench let me check it for you07:12
peettiglionabbit: and anyonecan trian it?07:12
James686so what can I do?07:12
tiglionabbitpeet: well, I just did, didn't I?  Yes07:12
nalioththe bot gets audited once a week07:13
unomeubotu All packages that include support for configuration management through *debconf* are configured as they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using [dpkg-reconfigure] . To change the configuration options for ssh run: dpkg-reconfigure ssh07:13
ubotuunome: I think you lost me on that one07:13
unomelol07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know what to do with this? http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/mplayer.conf_mplayer07:13
parkbenchilba7r: thanks...i have a wusb12 v1.1 802.11b (i think prism2_usb) adapter07:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: stay away from it?07:13
sinfernowhats the difference between snes9x-common and snes9x-opengl07:13
peetubotu: peet is the best07:13
ubotupeet: okay07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy?07:13
tiglionabbit!dpkg-reconfigure07:13
SpecialBuddyhow can I install the new version of wine with synaptic07:13
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit07:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntuguide will lead you to reinstalling07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:13
tiglionabbit!reconfigure07:13
ubotutiglionabbit: Wish i knew07:13
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peetubotu: are you a supybot07:13
ubotupeet: Are you smoking crack?07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYlinux is more complex than i relised07:13
ilba7rparkbench ok07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm almost ready to give up07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<07:14
tiglionabbit!peet07:14
ubotu[peet]  the best07:14
tiglionabbit!peet07:14
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: dont do that07:14
peet:D07:14
_coryis there anybody who can help me setup ndiswrapper..it's a bitch?07:14
Dr_WillisComplex? Bah.07:14
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tiglionabbit!peet07:14
Dr_WillisIts very logical and learnable. :P07:14
SpecialBuddyit is complex and hard to figure out07:14
jasmuzcan anybody recomend me a frontend to configure iptables tru (im a noob), and i need to set up another pc tru mine07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell theres so many things that i don't know07:14
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: once you learn it, it never changes07:14
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peettiglionabbit: it forgotme07:14
concept10_cory, yes07:14
peet!peet07:14
Dr_Willisits  not hard to figure out. :P07:14
ubotuI guess peet is the best07:14
tiglionabbitpeet: no, it just doesn't like me asking the same thing twice07:14
Dr_Willislots of redings.07:14
peetoh :)07:14
Dr_Willisreading.07:14
concept10Im BORED and I am here to help!07:14
naliothjasmuz: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13007:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis os is great it is nice that i own it and all.....but it seems really complex07:14
concept10who needs help07:15
Dr_Willisbut its very logical in many ways.07:15
SpecialBuddycan anyone tell me how to get the new version of wine with synaptic07:15
parkbenchilba7r: also, i didnt compile ndiswrapper, i instlaled with synaptic so...i dont know, does that make it differetn? i dont seem to have th  driver directroy im allgedly supposed to have07:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen comapred to m$07:15
_coryawesome07:15
peetChurcH_of_FoamY: well ms hides its complexity07:15
peetChurcH_of_FoamY: its messy complexity07:15
tiglionabbitubotu tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.  Ask him stuff, unless it has to do with obscure hardware he hasn't used.07:15
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:15
peetChurcH_of_FoamY: linux is clean complexity07:15
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: it seems that way, because YOU have much more control over this OS, then you do windoze07:15
Dr_WillisMS is great when it works... but when it breaks you are SOOO  "S.O.L"07:15
James686hello?07:15
peetJames686: hi07:15
Razor-Xany joe users in the house?07:15
Dr_Williswith Linux. when it breaks you can figure out whats wrong and fix it. (with some research)07:15
tiglionabbithi James68607:15
James686help me out installing it plz07:15
tiglionabbitJames686: what's your prob?07:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi like that but theres gotta be some sorta way to make things a tad bit easyer07:16
naliothRazor-X: you are the jOe KiNg07:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause now i'm hooked on ubuntu >.<07:16
SpecialBuddywhats wrong with my computer07:16
Razor-Xnalioth: I saw a joe user on here earlier ;)07:16
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you are on easy street right now07:16
ilba7rparkbench i think they are updating the page so i can not check if the card will work07:16
SpecialBuddyI can't install things from source07:16
Dr_WillisIm useing Ubuntu mainly.07:16
naliothRazor-X: we are all joe users07:16
SpecialBuddyI think my compilers are messed up07:16
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: wait till you read my CLI guide07:16
James686ok help, I typed in that line of text for the Nvidia driver, I typed in my password, it said Please insert the CD I did and pressed enter and it CONSTANTLY keeps on saying to Make Label and it says a name to label it, I even typed that in, nothin worked07:16
parkbenchilba7r: its okay, thanks anwyay07:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand what to use it effectivly in my gaming/multimedia ways07:16
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James686thats whats wrong07:16
ilba7rparkbench i too did try to install the ndiswrapper from synaptic did not work though07:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-x i can't waite07:16
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: read wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org, and this here irc chat, and you should be fine07:17
parkbenchworked for me though, i just cant get past that point after install07:17
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ilba7rparkbench i had to download the binary and install it to work07:17
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: well, it's in the works, at the moment07:17
tiglionabbitJames686: it asked you to put in a CD?07:17
ilba7rlets do a check07:17
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James686yes07:17
Razor-Xit's not much now, a simple 15 page document, I believe07:17
tiglionabbitJames686: you mean your ubuntu cd?07:17
MrJanglesthanks for all the help guys07:17
James686when I typed in that line of script for Nvidia cards07:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor the most part i am fine it's just that i'm starting to wanna fix the little intracacys that bug the hell outta me07:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't know enough >.<07:17
tiglionabbitJames07:17
tiglionabbit!nvidia07:17
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:17
tiglionabbitJames686: are you doing this ^07:18
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James686omg THAT DOESNT HELP!07:18
James686YES07:18
ilba7rparkbench when you type ndiswrapper -l what do you see07:18
vladuz976how do you search for packages with apt-get?07:18
SpecialBuddyanyone know why I get this error07:18
SpecialBuddyCompilation failed, aborting install.07:18
James686I typed in that line of texT!!!!!!!!!!07:18
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  use apt-cache search07:18
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naliothvladuz976: you use "apt-cache search <term>"07:18
tiglionabbitJames686: this one?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlike why does my soundcard only let one program access it at a time?07:18
naliothSpecialBuddy: could be anything07:18
vladuz976cool thanks nalioth and Dr_Willis07:18
James686yes07:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYand how come the video in mplayer is so damn small >.<07:19
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James686now what?07:19
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: because ESD sucks.  Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:19
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SpecialBuddywhat do I need to compile files nalioth?07:19
Ilucivhow does one reset their password here on freenode07:19
tiglionabbit!sound07:19
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit07:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok07:19
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tiglionabbitubotu sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:19
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:19
dubious9hey, I think I'm having DNS problems.  can somebody do a dig for www.kk.org and let me know what the IP comes up as07:19
retrogradesnowcoI installed kubuntu under vmware in windows. how do I access my windows disks, if that's even possible? (they're in NTFS, also)07:20
dubious9thanks in advance07:20
James686???07:20
naliothIluciv: do a /msg nickserv help07:20
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tiglionabbitJames686: then what you need to do, if that's not working, is edit your sources to use the internet instead of your cd07:20
tiglionabbit!repositories07:20
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:20
Ilucivnalioth: thanks07:20
tiglionabbitJames686: read this ^07:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwill this howto break my box?07:21
dubious9probably ;)07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYi got it running just the way i like it07:21
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: which howto?07:21
JB318dubious9: I get 69.36.164.32, with www as a cname to bald kk.org07:21
unomeubotu debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support *debconf* are configured as they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using *dpkg-reconfigure*. To change the configuration options for ssh run: dpkg-reconfigure ssh07:21
ubotuokay, unome07:21
James686thats all for the desktop...07:21
unome!debconf07:21
vladuz976nalioth, i am looking for xine-lib but can't find it with apt07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:21
retrogradesnowcoanyone know about my disk question?07:21
naliothunome, the channel will never see that07:21
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: the sound one?  Nah, it works fine for me, hopefully it will work for you07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYif it's gonna break it i don't wanna do it07:21
vladuz976nalioth, you think it might have a different name07:21
unometoo big?07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll try it07:21
dubious9JB318: thanks.  I'm not getting any return from my dns server.  I'll have to call them up07:21
harold_How long can you keep a PowerBook running Ubuntu on before it gets too hot?07:22
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: good luck.  It's a lot of steps to follow though.  This issue will hopefully be fixed completely by Breezy's release07:22
parkbenchilba7r: when i do it shows, "prism2_usb invalid driver!"07:22
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James686ok Im gonna get a driver, what OS should it be under?07:22
dubious9it only happens with some sites though.  not sure what the problem would be.  some kind of propagation error maybe07:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYso whats the diff between breezy and hoary?07:22
James686Im gonna save it to a CD lol07:22
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tiglionabbitJames686: wtf are you talking about?  lol07:23
ilba7rparkbench than it is not installed i would prefer if you install the binary07:23
ilba7rparkbench and do not download the latest 1.2 download the 1.107:23
James686the Nvidia driver07:23
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naliothvladuz976: search for 'xine'07:23
tiglionabbitJames686: did you read the repositories wiki?07:23
James686what OS should it be under?07:23
naliothharold_: your PB should never get hot07:23
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tiglionabbitJames686: it'll be called "linux x86" wont it?07:23
James686no because that has to do w/ the desktop07:23
tiglionabbitJames686: no it doesn't, it explains by commandline too07:24
harold_nalioth: So I can keep it on, theoretically, forever?07:24
naliothharold_: yes, theoretically07:24
Razor-Xnalioth: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf07:24
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tiglionabbitJames686: you just have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove single #s where necessary, and put a # on the cdrom line to exclude your cd07:24
AmaranthWarning: Abuse of the bot will result in a ban.07:24
tiglionabbit!tiglionabbi07:24
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit07:24
tiglionabbit!tiglionabbit07:25
ubotuwell, tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.  Ask him stuff, unless it has to do with obscure hardware he hasn't used.07:25
harold_nalioth: This PowerBook line runs notoriously hot.  (The joke is that you could cook an egg on its belly.)07:25
Razor-Xnalioth: errr, some errors07:25
tiglionabbitAmaranth: aw, pweese?07:25
tiglionabbit!x8607:25
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know07:25
Razor-Xtry again07:25
Razor-Xit should be fixed now, nalioth07:25
naliothRazor-X: ok07:25
harold_nalioth: What's your slowest laptop?07:26
tiglionabbit!xine07:26
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:26
Razor-Xthere are quite a few logic errors in the basic commands section07:26
parkbenchilba7r: from where?07:26
tiglionabbit!mplayer07:26
ubotutiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?07:26
Razor-Xbecause, I haven't finished that section07:26
tiglionabbitlol what07:26
naliothharold_: a iBook G3/60007:26
Razor-X!vlc07:26
ubotuRazor-X: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:26
harold_nalioth: What's been your slowest with Linux?07:26
tiglionabbitubotu vlc is a media player with native support for .avi07:26
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:26
Razor-XI basically lost interest in one section and went to the next ;)07:26
tiglionabbit!vlc07:26
parkbenchnenevermind, i found07:26
Razor-Xthat's why I need info on joe07:27
tiglionabbit!vlc07:27
ubotuvlc is probably a media player with native support for .avi07:27
naliothharold_: dual cpu intel 400mhz07:27
parkbenchbut how will i transfer to that pc? i dont want to waste a cd...shit07:27
tiglionabbit!linux07:27
naliothtiglionabbit: vlc has native support for MANY codecs07:27
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tiglionabbit07:27
tiglionabbitnalioth: ok, you make a better one07:27
[jon] [Mario] 07:27
harold_nalioth: LOL, that was you slowest?  I'm on 233MHz07:27
naliothharold_: i don't shop at goodwill07:28
ilba7rparkbench http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9348207:28
Marioyes07:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb07:28
harold_Someone keeps changing my name.07:28
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: vlc is probably a media player with native support of just about every known format07:28
harold_nalioth: LOL07:28
Razor-Xhow do you teach ubotue things?07:28
tiglionabbitRazor-X: not wmp, rm, or mov07:28
naliothRazor-X: dont abuse the bot07:28
tiglionabbitwhich are quite well known07:28
Razor-Xnalioth: I won't07:28
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harold_nalioth: I lucked out finding this PowerBook there; I'd been looking for one for a while07:28
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: even known ones07:28
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naliothholy cow!07:28
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: what?07:29
naliothAmaranth: wake up07:29
[jon] what?07:29
tiglionabbithey, who are these generic people joining?07:29
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tiglionabbituh...07:29
[jon] what?07:29
[jon] what?07:29
naliothzombies07:29
tiglionabbitare they trying to crank up our user count or something?07:29
Marioyess07:29
Razor-X!Razor-X07:29
ubotuRazor-X: Wish i knew07:29
tiglionabbitwhat is this07:29
harold_nalioth: What?07:30
harold_What's the deal?07:30
Razor-X...............07:30
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Razor-Xwow,t hat's sad07:30
harold_Who are these demons?07:30
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naliothwhaere is amarannth07:30
naliothAmaranth: wake up07:30
Razor-X*wow that's07:30
liablepwned computers :)07:30
harold_nalioth: What does Amaranth do?07:30
naliothharold_: Amaranth is an op07:30
Razor-X!Razor-X07:30
harold_nalioth: Ah, i had a feeling.07:30
ubotuRazor-X: Are you smoking crack?07:30
Razor-Xhahahaha!07:30
naliothattention in teh channel! this is why i hate windows so much07:30
Razor-X!Amaranth07:31
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liable!ops _|DioS33|_ something fishy07:31
ubotuWish i knew, liable07:31
naliothzombies07:31
liablewah, no ops07:31
Amaranthhi07:31
peetnalioth: what?07:31
vladuz976hey, i am trying to use this shell script which i use for fedora onubuntu now, but since ubuntu has no root. it doesn't really work, can someone take a look at it?07:31
Amaranthack07:31
tiglionabbitnalioth: huh?07:31
harold_What's a zombie?07:31
hondje /msg chanserv op #ubuntu07:31
hondje:)07:31
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tiglionabbitvladuz976: use sudo07:31
naliothAmaranth: why are all the zombies here?07:31
tiglionabbit!sudo07:31
ubotu[sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:31
hondjeoooh, now I have to be nice to nalioth07:31
Amaranthnalioth: I'm looking for the limit command07:31
Razor-Xhmmm... weher's my typesetting obsessed friend... -_-07:31
Amaranthnalioth: For now start banning07:31
vladuz976tiglionabbit, it's a shell script. so just go sudo ./file07:31
vladuz976?07:31
Razor-X*ypesetting07:31
hondjeAmaranth: user -J07:31
tiglionabbitvladuz976: yes07:31
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Razor-X**typesetting07:31
hondjeer, use J07:32
HIIIITLER[jon] 07:32
liableAmaranth: J07:32
HIIIITLERMario07:32
hondje-L sets a hard limit IIRC, J x,y lets you throttle joins07:32
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HIIIITLERotro07:32
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harold_I'm guessing nalioth is going to town on the Zombies.07:32
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tiglionabbituhhh07:32
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vladuz976tiglionabbit, i get an eroor07:32
HostingGeekOMG07:32
HostingGeekWTF07:32
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Amaranthshit07:32
JB318BBQ07:32
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tiglionabbitcan someone explain to me what is happening?07:32
HostingGeeksome add +f to this channel07:32
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tiglionabbitin english plz?07:32
HostingGeekAmaranth: here add the following mode07:32
Razor-Xisn't it obvious?07:33
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: no07:33
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HostingGeekOhh never mind07:33
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Razor-Xhahahaha!07:33
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HostingGeekyou already have it07:33
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: I see that a ton of things are joining the channel, but why?07:33
vladuz976tiglionabbit, http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOfs2342.html07:33
tiglionabbitand now they're dead07:33
Amaranthjoin/part flood07:33
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: you've never seen a spam, before?07:33
naliothboys, that was a windows zombie attack07:33
tiglionabbitRazor-X: I've never seen a join-spam07:33
Razor-Xthe guy keeps trying to do something for my client07:33
tiglionabbitwindows zombie attack?07:33
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hondjezombies eat your braaaaanes07:34
Razor-XI don't use mIRC, sorry07:34
Razor-X;)07:34
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tiglionabbitvladuz976: that error just says cvs isn't found.  Install it07:34
tiglionabbit!cvs07:34
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:34
vladuz976tiglionabbit, how do i install cvs?07:35
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HostingGeekAmaranth: set ban on *_|*!*@* and *|_*!*@*07:35
tiglionabbitvladuz976: with synaptic or apt-get07:35
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AmaranthHostingGeek: No, that's too broad.07:35
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ChurcHi got a box on my screen called informational-artsmessage >.<07:35
vladuz976tiglionabbit, sudo apt-get install cvs07:35
vladuz976?07:35
tiglionabbitvladuz976: yes07:35
HostingGeekAmaranth: no its not07:35
liablenicks that start with _ should be banned anyay :)07:35
vladuz976tiglionabbit, says unmet dependencies07:35
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ChurcHand it says somethings messd up07:36
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tiglionabbitvladuz976: really?  Read this then07:36
tiglionabbit!repositories07:36
uboturumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:36
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Amaranthsomeone say my name07:36
tiglionabbitAmaranth07:36
hondjeAmaranth:07:36
HostingGeekAmaranth: no one right now has _|07:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYamaranth ^_^07:36
Amaranthperfect07:36
harold_ubotu: That joke never loses its humor.  Or does it?07:36
HostingGeekAmaranth: or |_07:36
ubotuharold_: I don't know, could you explain it?07:36
vladuz976tiglionabbit, i already added those07:36
AmaranthHostingGeek: So? They might in the future.07:36
HostingGeekAmaranth: in there nick07:36
vladuz976tiglionabbit, you told me earlier07:36
harold_Rumor has it...07:36
HostingGeekAmaranth: for now... ban it for the next 20min07:37
harold_...oh, forget it!07:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan anyone help solve this error i got07:37
AmaranthHostingGeek: I already have them covered.07:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYit has to do with my sound07:37
tiglionabbitvladuz976: then cvs should be able to install.  It is a supported package.  Do you have non-ubuntu repositories?07:37
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vladuz976no07:37
harold_I keep getting this error that says I'm not smart enough to use Ubunut.07:37
HostingGeekAmaranth: Can I ask you on your fav. shades of brown? in a /msg or #clearlooks ?07:37
harold_See what I mean/07:37
harold_?07:37
vladuz976only the stuff from the guide... tiglionabbit07:37
concept10I need something new, someone recommend a good app for me to play around with, im bored07:37
tiglionabbitvladuz976: have you said sudo apt-get update recently07:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYharold_ same here07:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think it just called me stupid >.<07:38
AmaranthHostingGeek: err07:38
harold_Church_of_FoamY: LOL07:38
vladuz976tiglionabbit, after i added the repos07:38
AmaranthHostingGeek: I don't really care for brown at all.07:38
tiglionabbitbrown is awesome, whatchoo talkin bout07:38
harold_I need to figure out how to quick-insert usernames in IRc07:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi followd this to the letter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand rebooted now i get a sound error at startup that dosen't mean a thing to me07:39
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: okay, and then you restart, and then ..07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<07:39
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: what do it say?07:39
tsunamiihow do i install something via synaptic?07:39
tiglionabbittsunamii: click on it07:39
HostingGeekAmaranth: Well can I still /msg you?07:39
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vladuz976tiglionabbit, synaptic does it07:39
harold_Can I live without a GUI?07:39
SpecialBuddyI can't figure out how to install something from source07:39
tiglionabbitharold_: yes07:39
AmaranthHostingGeek: That depends on the topic.07:39
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SpecialBuddyeverytime I try It fails07:39
tsunamiibut then i don't know what's the best place to install it07:39
harold_tiglionabbit: Are you certain?07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYacording to the howto i need more brans to finish this07:40
naliothharold_: start typing a nick, and tab-complete it07:40
tiglionabbitharold_: depends.  Does not seeing graphics make you go insane?07:40
HostingGeekAmaranth: topic is html notations07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYbeacuse it needs more tweaking07:40
tiglionabbitharold_: you can do most everything on the terminal, but most people wouldn't want to07:40
vladuz976tiglionabbit, synaptic list a lot of stuff when i search cvs what do i need to install?07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYor my soundcard dosen't support it >.<07:40
AmaranthHostingGeek: I don't even know what those are.07:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't know which it is07:40
idleCatAny news on mono 1.1.8 ?\07:40
tiglionabbitvladuz976: the one that is called "cvs" and has an ubuntu logo next to it07:40
vladuz976tiglionabbit, ok07:40
harold_tiglionabbit: I dig using the terminal, but I can't see using it to, say, surf the web or edit audio.07:41
tsunamiii want to install the macromedia plugin - but i want to do it in the correct place easily07:41
harold_(or edit video, for that matter)07:41
tsunamiii was told that synaptic could do it07:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYarrghh >.< i like this os why must it tourture me07:41
tiglionabbitharold_: tried links or w3m ?07:41
vladuz976tiglionabbit, working ;-)07:41
Amaranthtsunamii: flashplayer-mozilla or mozilla-flashplayer07:41
tsunamiieh?07:41
tiglionabbitno no, install flash through your web browser07:41
Amaranthtsunamii: Can't remember which one it is, one of those will install it.07:41
harold_But for communicating via IRC, email, etc - no prob.  I've used Lynx, but I'd rather mozilla07:41
tiglionabbitit's easier that way07:41
harold_or Firefox07:41
tsunamiiwhat do you mean Amaranth ?07:42
tsunamiiit's for firefox07:42
tiglionabbitharold_: true, no problem in having both07:42
Amaranthtsunamii: I know, this is how you install it.07:42
tsunamii?07:42
HostingGeekAmaranth: html color numbers07:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi give up07:42
tiglionabbittsunamii: to install flash, just go to a flashed page and click on the puzzle piece07:42
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: on what?07:42
tsunamiidoesn't work, now i have to do a manual install07:42
harold_tiglionabbit: But once I'm done editing audio, for example, I prefer using the terminal to encode using lame and then upload using sftp07:42
AmaranthHostingGeek: Ok...I just use The GIMP to get those.07:42
SpecialBuddycan I turn something thats source into a .deb07:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYon my sound problem it is both beyond my understanding and to complex for my lvl of linux knowledge07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just broke most of my sound07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYusing that howto somehow07:43
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: I believe there is a program called checkinstall that you can use in place of the make install command to do a debian-style install of it07:43
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: that's why you upgrade from lvl to level ;)07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i followd it to the letter07:43
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: what is the error?07:43
Razor-Xhow is 'lvl' an abbreviation, none of the keys are on the home row07:43
Razor-Xwhat is the problem?07:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYin a game i play it is07:44
naliothSpecialBuddy: yes, use "checkinstall"07:44
SpecialBuddyok07:44
SpecialBuddythanks07:44
tiglionabbit!checkinstall07:44
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't know it just dosen't make sound now at the startup07:44
harold_SpecialBuddy: Funny name (or creepy; it's one or the other)07:44
tiglionabbitwould somebody define a !checkinstall ?07:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut other sounds still work from diffrent programs07:44
Razor-XI tried defining my name07:44
Razor-Xbut, I failed07:44
Razor-X;)07:44
tiglionabbit!Razor-X07:44
ubotuWish i knew, tiglionabbit07:44
harold_Define "irony"07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi still have the box that poped up on startup07:45
tiglionabbitubotu Razor-X is a nifty guy07:45
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:45
Razor-Xharold_: if something is full of iron07:45
tiglionabbit!tiglionabbit07:45
ubotuwell, tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.  Ask him stuff, unless it has to do with obscure hardware he hasn't used.07:45
tiglionabbit!Razor-X07:45
harold_Razor-X: nice try07:45
tiglionabbit!Razor-X07:45
uboturazor-x is probably a nifty guy07:45
naliothubotu checkinstall is a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation07:45
ubotunalioth: okay07:45
Razor-Xahhh, I see ;)07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll pastebin it for you07:45
harold_Razor-X: "A" for effort07:45
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tiglionabbitubotu forget Razor-X07:46
ubotutiglionabbit: i forgot razor-x07:46
tiglionabbitthere, now make one, Razor-X07:46
harold_Man, it's taking long to upload via sftp tonight!  Usually it's lighting-fast.07:46
Razor-Xubotu Razor-X is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners07:46
ubotuRazor-X: okay07:46
Razor-X!Razor-X07:46
ubotuit has been said that razor-x is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners07:46
tiglionabbitRazor-X: asexual?07:46
harold_ubotu: Now it's a rumor.07:46
ubotuWish i knew, harold_07:46
naliothy'all dont fill the bot with crap, fill him with useful info07:46
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: look up human asexual in wikipedia07:46
HostingGeekAmaranth: can you read it?07:47
tiglionabbito.O07:47
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: uh....?07:47
naliothubotu forget Razor-X07:48
ubotui forgot razor-x, nalioth07:48
naliothubotu forget peet07:48
Razor-X.................07:48
ubotui forgot peet, nalioth07:48
Razor-Xnalioth: stop that!07:48
tiglionabbithey nalioth, don't ruin our fun07:48
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concept10asexual?07:48
AmaranthWarning: Abuse of the bot will result in a ban.07:48
Razor-Xubotu Razor-X is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners07:48
ubotuRazor-X: okay07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow according to this: http://pastebin.com/30821907:48
naliothubotu forget tiglionrabbit07:48
ubotunalioth: i didn't have anything called 'tiglionrabbit'07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy box is arguing with it's self?07:48
Razor-XAmaranth: can you lock definitions of helpers?07:49
signbarnWhat's the command to see the free space on your mounted drives?07:49
tiglionabbityay, saved by nalioth's misspelling of my name.  Seriously though, why?07:49
AmaranthRazor-X: I have no control over the bot.07:49
Razor-Xconcept10: as I said earlier, look up human asexual in wikipedia07:49
AmaranthRazor-X: But you shouldn't be in it.07:49
naliothtiglionabbit: remove your name entry in the bot, please07:49
Razor-XAmaranth: whose bot is it?07:49
Razor-Xis it?07:49
Amaranthcafuego's07:49
Razor-Xubotu forget Razor-X07:49
ubotuRazor-X: i forgot razor-x07:49
tiglionabbitnalioth: ={07:49
Razor-Xubotu forget tiglionabbit07:49
ubotuRazor-X: i forgot tiglionabbit07:49
Razor-Xthere we are, our little mess cleaned up07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea about my error?07:49
nalioththe bot has limited memory, y'all fill it with useful info07:50
tiglionabbitwhy was that necessary?07:50
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: what is your error?07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/30821907:50
tiglionabbitnalioth: it does?  What does it run on?07:50
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Are you so special that you need an entry in the bot? :)07:50
Razor-Xhow much does it have?07:50
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tiglionabbitAmaranth: well I spend a lot of time here now, I thought, why not?07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat a bot and what dose it do?07:50
concept10!ubotu asexual is something we would rather not talk about07:50
ubotuconcept10: okay07:50
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Razor-XAmaranth: I was thinking that the frequent helpers here should have titles, but if the memory is that limited, I don't want to take up useful space07:51
concept10!asexual07:51
ubotuasexual is, like, something we would rather not talk about07:51
Razor-Xconcept10: thanks ;)07:51
tiglionabbitrofl07:51
Amaranthubotu forget asexual07:51
ubotui forgot asexual, Amaranth07:51
tiglionabbitRazor-X: how old are you, and why do you consider yourself this?07:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYany idea?07:51
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: uggghhhh, ;)07:51
Amaranthit gets filled with garbage all the time, on accident07:51
Razor-X!vlc07:51
uboturumour has it, vlc is a media player with native support for .avi07:51
Amaranthfor example:07:52
Razor-Xubotu forget vlc07:52
ubotui forgot vlc, Razor-X07:52
Amaranthvlc is awesome!07:52
Razor-Xof course07:52
naliothRazor-X: fix the vlc entry07:52
Amaranthhmm, i guess he fixed that07:52
Razor-Xand therefore defines a fitting vlc entry07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat is a bot?07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it some sorta ai program?07:52
harold_Church: Ever see the Jetsons?07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea07:52
harold_Church: Exactly07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:52
concept10can it contain links?07:52
tiglionabbityes07:52
harold_Church: It's a program that acts like it's real.07:52
tiglionabbit!restricted07:52
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:52
nalioth!restricted07:52
Razor-Xubotu vlc is a media player with excellent native support for almost all known formats excluding a rare few proprietary formats and can be obtained using 'sudo apt-get install vlc'07:52
ubotuRazor-X: okay07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow thats awsome07:53
concept10thank god for links07:53
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Razor-Xthere we are, now, I don't have to spell out VLC any longer07:53
harold_Church: it automates, in other words (like AI)07:53
tiglionabbitRazor-X: rare few?  you mean all proprietary formats?07:53
harold_For example, nalioth is a bot.07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu how are you?07:53
ubotumas o menos, ChurcH_of_FoamY07:53
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: the only format my VLC can't play is WMV07:53
tiglionabbitRazor-X: I'd like to see a list of the formats vlc does support and the ones it doesn't.  I'm pretty sure there are more that it doesn't07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamY?07:53
tiglionabbitRazor-X: rm, mov?07:53
Razor-Xand that's because I haven't compiled the support in07:53
harold_Church: I'm just kidding, nalioth isn't a bot.07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYok07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<07:54
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concept10heh07:54
harold_I'm a bot, though.07:54
naliothtiglionabbit: and on a intel box, vlc can play some wmv07:54
Razor-Xmov and rm work07:54
AmaranthRazor-X: Did Jon ever provide the patch to make vlc handle vc1 files?07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O07:54
tiglionabbitlol harold_ stop playing with him07:54
harold_Church: I'm just kidding.07:54
tiglionabbitRazor-X: not for me07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i'm lost07:54
Razor-XAmaranth: nopes07:54
concept10bot, who said bot, yes I run on a loney server somewhere07:54
tiglionabbitRazor-X: when I play a .mov vlc crashes.  When I play an .rm it gives a messagebox saying it can't07:54
AmaranthRazor-X: Then you can't play WMV3 files with vlc yet07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich one of you are bot and which ones people? O_o o_O07:54
harold_Church: Google has a bot that scours the Internet, caching sites.07:55
Razor-Xhmmm... maybe i'm wrong about .rm, but .mov I played a short while back07:55
harold_That's the truth.07:55
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: exactly07:55
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: there's only one bot, it's oBOTu07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:55
Razor-Xin fact, I should get off my ass, and do it now07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYi get it07:55
Razor-Xfor something as deserving as VLC07:55
tiglionabbitRazor-X: I just downloaded the QT music video and it crashes07:55
harold_Church: But there's different types of bots, varying in complexity.07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYso now that my mind has been warped any ideas to my question07:55
vladuz976i am getting these errors: aclocal: command not found.   is that something i need to install separately?07:55
naliothtiglionabbit: i dont think vlc supports modern quicktime07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats neat07:55
Amaranthquicktime is just a container format07:56
harold_Church: None of them, to my knowledge, will fool you too long, though.  Most bots will reveal their limitations soon enough.07:56
Amaranthyou mean vlc doesn't handle h.26407:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause i an't hitten ok in that box till someone says it's ok07:56
Razor-Xnalioth: try the Metroid Prime 2 trailers, or the Revelations movie07:56
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Razor-XAmaranth: I thought it does?07:56
AmaranthRazor-X: Well, it handles SD versions.07:56
tiglionabbitWhen I try to play the trailers from nintendo.com, vlc has no sound07:57
tiglionabbithow do I get vlc to support things like this?07:57
Troglodytis there an application that will keep track of when my internet connection is active?  I need to know how often I drop offline07:57
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tiglionabbitubotu forget vlc07:57
ubotui forgot vlc, tiglionabbit07:57
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harold_Also: Is there an application that will tell you how much HD space you have left?07:58
cyphasewoohoo07:58
tiglionabbitubotu vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.07:58
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit07:58
naliothharold_: 'discus'07:58
cyphasemy server's been up almost 58 days07:58
SpecialBuddyhow do you use this checkinstall07:58
harold_nalioth: coolness07:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYso can i hit enter on that error or what?07:58
mindstormcheckinstall help07:58
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: they said you use it in place of `make install`07:58
nalioth!checkinstall07:58
ubotuit has been said that checkinstall is a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation07:58
vladuz976tiglionabbit, is there other stuff i need to install to use cvs?07:58
tiglionabbitvladuz976: apt should handle it for you, as long as your repositories are correct07:59
vladuz976tiglionabbit, i am getting this: aclocal: command not found07:59
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vladuz976tiglionabbit,  and this :autoheader: command not found07:59
Amaranthvladuz976: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:59
vladuz976Amaranth, i did08:00
Razor-Xback08:00
naliothvladuz976: install "build-essential"08:00
tiglionabbitAmaranth: I think he may need more than that08:00
HostingGeekI need some ginny pigs08:00
tiglionabbitautoconfig is in a different package08:00
HostingGeekWho wants to be one08:00
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: you gave it an unholy description of VLC !08:00
tiglionabbitI can't remember which one08:00
SpecialBuddywhat do I put after checkinstall08:00
HostingGeekyou must like browns!08:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYcrosses fingers hits ENTER08:00
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: VLC CAN'T play "almost everything"08:00
naliothSpecialBuddy: hit the enter key08:00
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HostingGeekAmaranth: why did you do that08:00
luciferQuestion : Hello; how do I reach to my files at my memory stick after connecting it ? (If your answer is mounting the drive, then how do I know which usb port I'm using? I guess there is 8 of them)08:00
Razor-Xof course it can08:00
_corycan anybody help me with changing directory user permissions08:00
SpecialBuddyI guess I don't get how to use this08:01
vladuz976nalioth, says its installed08:01
Razor-Xon my box, it can08:01
AmaranthHostingGeek: People are screwing with it.08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O08:01
Razor-Xif you can't get it to work..... -_-08:01
HostingGeek!ubotu jump in the lake08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYit works still08:01
tiglionabbitlucifer: does it pop up as an icon on your desktop?08:01
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AmaranthIt does, but you can't see it here.08:01
Razor-Xdoesen't mean that, in ideal circumstances, it doesen't08:01
lucifertiglionabbit: i wish it did08:01
tiglionabbitlucifer: you should be able to lsusb to see what your usb ports have in em08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow it diden't crash ^_^08:01
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luciferthank you08:01
HostingGeekWho likes browns!?!??!08:01
HostingGeekI need someone who likes browns!08:02
tiglionabbitI LIKE BROWNS08:02
Razor-XHostingGeek: brown?08:02
Razor-Xas in "South Asian"?08:02
HostingGeekNo08:02
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Razor-X!joe08:03
tiglionabbitguys, why do you say there is limited memory in ubotu?08:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan anyone recommend a good cheap soundcard for ubuntu/kubuntu?08:03
Razor-Xubotu left?08:03
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: it must have a limited HDD space08:03
SpecialBuddyI still don't get this checkinstall and maybe this isn't what I even need to use08:03
sladenChurcH_of_FoamY: any should do08:04
Razor-Xregardless, any joe users?08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYok cause i think my onboard one is crap08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe thats what that error means08:04
Razor-Xuggghhhh, writing a book is tough, and gets boring after a while -_-08:04
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Razor-Xthat reminds me... I've slated a fiction book inbetween Calculus and this book.... but, I have no time08:05
Razor-Xdamn my personal goals >_<08:05
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: okay, perhaps following that guide was a bad idea.  It doesn't work for everyone.  Do you hear system sounds now?  Can you play things in a media player?08:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi can still for some reason08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYonly play sound from one prog at a time08:05
Razor-Xanyone want to coauthor with me?08:06
Razor-Xpreferrable, one versed in LaTeX?08:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand i need to play sounds from to diffrent apps at once08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYif teamspeak is running nothing else will08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYsame with all other sound producing apps08:06
tiglionabbitRazor-X: how limited must its space be for it to not be able to contain too many single lines of text?  I mean sheesh08:07
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: same thing happens to me08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a reason for that?08:07
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: behaved a little bit better after following that guide, but otherwise not perfect08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't see any diffrent results accept the sound is somewhat clearer08:07
tiglionabbitdunno man, seems to be Hoary's way.  I hear it's fixed in Breezy, so you can look forward to that in mid October, but for now..  ask an admin how he fixed it08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYgood idea08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi like this release how much diffrent will it be?08:08
SpecialBuddydo I need to set something up in order to install things from source08:08
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: well, it'll fix a lot of problems...08:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYcool ^_^08:09
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: well you need build-essential08:09
SpecialBuddywhere do I get that08:09
SpecialBuddysynaptic?08:09
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: you will also need whatever libraries the program you're compiling requires08:09
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: yeah08:09
SpecialBuddyI just want to install wine from source08:10
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SpecialBuddybecause thats the only way I can get the newer version08:10
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: can't you get a .deb of the most recent version?08:10
SpecialBuddyI don't think so08:10
IceDC571no, compile wine!08:10
IceDC571compile the latest wine!08:11
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tiglionabbitIceDC571: is there a guide?08:11
tiglionabbit!wine08:11
SpecialBuddywell I get errors everytime I try to do that08:11
tiglionabbitgah, why have they taken ubotu away from us!?08:11
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: what errors?08:11
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: they're trying to tell you something, I swear08:11
IceDC571if you're having a problem with the latest wine, ask me08:11
SpecialBuddyok08:12
SpecialBuddyI might have to do that but rigth now I can't08:12
SpecialBuddybut most likely I'm going to have questions08:12
zeeeeehi all, it seems right now i can't run apps that use esd and jack audio systems at the same time... is there any solution to this?08:12
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tiglionabbitzeeeee: welcome to the hoary club08:12
zeeeeetiglionabbit, hello08:13
luciferQuestion again : when I use "lsusb", i just get a list starting with "Bus 004 Device 001.. en ending  Bus 001 Device 001" ; on my /dev/ folder where my usb ports would be ? It's not sda1 or something. I just can't figure out.08:13
SpecialBuddyI used 200505whatever, and I couldn't run certain things so I thought I would get the newer version08:13
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zeeeeetiglionabbit, are you telling me there's no solution?08:13
IceDC571SpecialBuddy: what couldn't you run?08:13
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tiglionabbitzeeeee: there's a solution, but only the admins here seem to know it.  There's a forum thread that might help a little, but still doesn't make things play at the same time and mix08:14
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tiglionabbitAmaranth:  *poke*08:15
parkbenchi need to get this ndiswrapper source from this computer to the linux08:15
jasoncohenwhat's the best way to start beagle on boot? should i start it with gnome or as a service?08:15
parkbenchideas?08:15
parkbenchi dont want to waste a cd08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow the ubuntu facts are kinda neat08:15
jasoncoheni don't want it to open over and over again if i restart gnome08:15
SpecialBuddyI couldn't get starcraft to work08:15
stevenjCan someone please tell me what this means? http://rafb.net/paste/results/gQ8K4j88.html08:15
parkbenchi tried ptuting it on my external but for some reason when i connect it to linuxbox the files disappear08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYor faq's even08:15
parkbenchand floppies ar totaly fucked up and not working for some reason...i think ive exhausted everything but am i missing something?08:15
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: where?08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYalthough it wasen't what i was looking for08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYwww.ubuntu.com08:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYare the things called "snapshots" safe to use?08:16
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: hi.08:17
tiglionabbithi Amaranth.  Did you happen to know how to make it mix audio?08:17
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Make what what?08:17
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tiglionabbitin hoary, have multiple programs play their sounds at the same time08:17
tiglionabbitin an elegant fashion08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYmultiple sounds from diffrent apps at once08:18
SpecialBuddyIceDC57108:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYok that too lol08:18
IceDC571SpecialBuddy08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYwe both have the same problem actually08:18
tiglionabbitAmaranth: also, where'd ubotu go?  I miss him.  He was my friend08:18
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IceDC571oh starcraft?08:19
SpecialBuddyIceDC571, to compile from source I just have to use wineinstall right08:19
Blue_SummerCan anyone tell me how to connect to the GameSurge servers?08:19
Blue_SummeronIRC08:19
IceDC571SpecialBuddy: yep08:19
SpecialBuddyok08:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu you there?08:19
Amaranthtiglionabbit: No idea and I made him go away because you guys abused him.08:19
SpecialBuddyI'm doing that08:19
SpecialBuddyI'll let you know how it goes08:19
IceDC571okay08:19
tiglionabbitAmaranth: aw, that makes me sad.  What's so wrong with giving him different entries?08:19
tiglionabbitAmaranth: he saves me a lot of repeating myself08:19
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: I could make everyone that abused him go away instead. ;)08:21
Blue_SummerGuys: Using XCHAT how do i get onto the GameSurge Servers? (On mIRC its automatically listed)08:21
tiglionabbitAmaranth: aw, seriously though why can't he have lots of entries?08:21
IceDC571does gamesurge have anything to do with Ubuntu?08:21
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tiglionabbitIceDC571: xchat sort of does08:21
Blue_SummerIceDC571, Xchat does08:22
IceDC571okay08:22
solar_anthiiiii !!!!!08:22
_root_hi08:22
Blue_SummerHi08:22
tiglionabbitBlue_Summer: you need to type in the full server name, like irc.gamesurge.net or whatever it is08:22
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Signal/noise ratio gets out of whack.08:22
Blue_Summerahh ty tiglionabbit08:22
solar_anti get a child terminated with status error 108:22
tiglionabbitsolar_ant: ah, generic error08:22
solar_anteverytime i try to change my system settings , like packet manager or networking08:22
solar_anttiglionabbit,  how do i go aabt it ?08:23
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tiglionabbitsolar_ant: what exactly are you doing?08:23
_root_does xorg-x11-devel requires on xorg-x1108:23
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solar_anti click on synaptic packet manager08:23
solar_antit asks for my password08:23
solar_antonce i type08:24
solar_antit says08:24
solar_antchild terminated with 1 status08:24
tiglionabbitAmaranth: uh, I think it actually saves people time, because they can have ubotu point out a link instead of having to explain things theirself08:24
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: That helps, sure.08:24
tiglionabbitsolar_ant: are you typing your password right?08:24
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Goofy entries and entries about yourself diminish the goodness though.08:24
solar_antyeah08:25
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solar_antwhen i type a wrong password it says password error08:25
tiglionabbitsolar_ant: when you just run `gksudo ls` or something equally retarded, what does it say after you enter your password?08:26
solar_antit doesnt say anything after i enetr my password08:27
solar_antbu before i do it says08:27
solar_antgdk warning locale not supported by xlib08:27
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Blue_Summertiglionabbit, is there a command like /nick to change name inside Xchat?08:27
sinfernowhen i edit my fstab, under type would i put someting like ntfs or vfat, i have ntfs so i guess i would put that?08:27
sinfernoor is that something totally different08:27
tiglionabbitBlue_Summer: yes08:28
solar_antgdk - warning cannot set locale modifiers08:28
tiglionabbitsinferno: yes08:28
sinfernook thanks08:28
sinfernojust making sure08:28
sinfernoi edited my fstab once and had to reinstall08:28
sinfernolol08:28
tiglionabbitsinferno: safest way to check what you should put is, mount it, and then say 'mount' and see what mount mounted it as08:28
Blue_Summertiglionabbit,  well whats the command ? :P08:28
solar_antand now it said the same error08:28
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solar_antwhen i tried the command again08:29
sinfernoits mounted and working perfect08:29
tiglionabbitBlue_Summer: /nick some-idiot08:29
solar_antchild terminated with 1 status08:29
sinfernobut i had problems last time with permissions08:29
solar_antand it also says08:29
solar_antsolar is not in08:29
solar_antsolar is not in08:29
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solar_antsolar is the username08:29
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sinfernotiglionabbit, oh badass thats nice thanks08:29
tiglionabbitsinferno: if it's mounted, say `mount` and look at the line about it.  mount prints out what things are mounted08:30
tiglionabbityeah08:30
solar_anttiglionabbit,  ????08:30
sinfernotiglionabbit, yeah that works good08:30
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sinfernowhat is dump and pass?08:30
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Amaranthwoo, yet another freenode staff member is enjoying the ubuntu goodness08:30
tiglionabbitdunno08:30
Blue_Summerhelp! I tried running a program and it proper zoomed into my screen and i have to move my mouse to the edges to scroll lol08:30
Blue_Summerhow can i unzoom08:30
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solar_antanyone ???08:31
tiglionabbitBurgundavia: oo, I hate that display mode.  uh...08:31
Blue_SummerAnyone know its kinda urgent08:31
tiglionabbitoops, meant to say that to Blue_Summer08:31
AmaranthBlue_Summer: Ctrl-Alt-+, iirc08:31
tiglionabbitBlue_Summer: dunno what you do to change it.. there may be a key combo08:31
tiglionabbityeah that one08:31
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ksmurfanyone here use vmware?08:33
Amaranthksmurf: I've used it.08:33
solar_antis there anyone who knows how to solve this problem ?08:33
solar_antit shows child process terminated with 1 status08:33
Amaranthsolar_ant: what command are you running?08:33
solar_antwhenever i try to run anything with gksudo08:33
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Amaranthsolar_ant: hmm08:34
ksmurfAmaranth  ... I worked great for that windows proggie that I couldn't get the altern for.  Can you game in it too?08:34
sinfernowould it be bad to download the nvidia drivers from the site and use those, because the ones i got in the package thing arnt working very well08:34
sinfernowhen it comes to opengl08:34
Amaranthksmurf: Not really, no.08:34
Amaranthksmurf: It doesn't do 3D acceleration at all.08:34
solar_antAmaranth,  ?08:35
solar_antany idea ?08:35
Amaranthsolar_ant: Nope.08:35
solar_antit shows me the rror08:35
tiglionabbitsinferno: you mean the !nvidia damnit why is ubotu not here package?  And have you tried the ones on nvidia's site?08:35
Amaranthsolar_ant: I'm not on an ubuntu machine so I can't help.08:35
solar_anteven when  i click synaptic package manager08:35
sinfernono i havent tried those08:35
solar_antoops08:35
ksmurfAmaranth  Oh OK.   Damn I wanted to free up the 20 Gb I have xp on.  Guess I'll have to keep it there for gaming (till I can figure out wine)08:35
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: Are you trying to annoy me?08:36
solar_antwhere do i download cc or gcc for ubuntu ?08:36
sinfernotiglionabbit, i downloaded glx in the package manager and i havent restarted yet, should i??08:36
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tiglionabbitAmaranth: because I want my ubotu back, waaah08:36
ksmurfAmaranth  Guess the 530Gb I have for linux will have to do08:36
Amaranthsolar_ant: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:36
Amaranthksmurf: hehe :D08:36
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tiglionabbitAmaranth: just got used to being able to stop hunting down urls all the time08:36
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: 1) it's back and 2) you seem to be trying to get banned08:37
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tiglionabbit!nvidia08:37
uboturumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:37
solar_antsolar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:37
tiglionabbityay08:37
solar_antAmaranth,  solar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:37
stchatterboxgood afternoon08:37
tiglionabbitthank you, Amaranth.  You could ban me, but I'm just so helpful, ya know?  (=P okay not at the moment, but usually)08:37
stchatterboxmay i know if untanbu can have dual booting?08:37
tiglionabbitstchatterbox: yes08:38
Amaranthstchatterbox: It can, as long as you installed windows first.08:38
tiglionabbitI'm doing that right now08:38
Amaranthsolar_ant: Err, heh.08:38
eternale1hello , what package system does ubuntu use? apt-get?08:38
Amaranthsolar_ant: There is your problem.08:38
Amarantheternale1: Yep.08:38
sinfernoubotu, lmfao08:38
ubotuWish i knew, sinferno08:38
stchatterboxi'm running window XP Sp208:38
bimberieternale1: yes08:38
tiglionabbityou should be able to install either in any order, but if you install things after Ubuntu you'll have to change some things in grub08:38
stchatterboxwish to know the instructions for that, mind to give me the URL to that?08:38
eternale1ok ty08:38
stchatterboxthanks08:38
tiglionabbit!dual08:38
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?08:38
tiglionabbit!dualboot08:38
ubotuhmm... dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm "", or "" !grub""08:38
tiglionabbit!grub08:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto08:39
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: Installing Windows last will make you have a Windows only machine that happens to have an ubuntu partition.08:39
sinfernocharles@slacker:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:39
sinfernoPassword:08:39
sinfernoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:39
sinfernoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:39
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Unless you boot up in rescue mode from the install cd and fix the mbr.08:39
bimberistchatterbox: wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo08:39
twb_whats the command for removing an application08:39
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Amaranthsinferno: Close synaptic.08:39
sinfernooh thanks08:40
sinfernolol08:40
tiglionabbitAmaranth: exactly08:40
sinfernothat was easy08:40
Amaranthtiglionabbit: Installing Windows then Ubuntu will automagically set everything up for you.08:40
bimberitwb_: apt-get remove <package>08:40
stchatterboxthanks a lot08:40
stchatterboxi'll try to read them08:40
tiglionabbitAmaranth: yes, but installing an OS is an expensive operation08:41
tiglionabbitAmaranth: things should work both ways, and they do08:41
ksmurfAmaranth  I just looked at the help file.... You can enable 3D.... Have u tried it?08:41
jinohow to get grub after windows installation..08:41
sinfernowhat does pass mean in fstab08:41
Amaranthksmurf: err08:41
stchatterboxand since i've installed some softwares in my D drive08:41
stchatterboxmy system in C08:41
Amaranthksmurf: Must be new in version 5.08:41
stchatterboxany problems?08:41
twb_and for running a program?08:41
Amaranthksmurf: I doubt you can play anything released in the last 4 years.08:41
ksmurfAmaranth  It is <ksmurf used to be a warez junkie>08:41
ksmurf128 megs can be allotted08:42
jinoi have a 40 gb hdd and i need both xp and linux..so how should i set my partitions..08:42
ksmurfjino what do u need xp for?08:42
cyphasescrew xp!08:42
cyphase;)08:42
tiglionabbitksmurf: cmon, let him08:42
ksmurfGames?08:42
jinonope08:43
jinophotosho and stff08:43
cyphaselol08:43
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tiglionabbitjino: if I were you, I'd install XP on a small fat32 partition, so linux can see it08:43
cyphasetry Gimp08:43
ksmurfphotoshop  ... try gimp08:43
Amaranthphotoshop works in crossover office08:43
NyChamp757Hi everybody08:43
IceDC571photoshop works in wine08:43
AmaranthThe GIMP is worthless compared to Photoshop08:43
bimberitwb_: depends on the program, sometimes a menu entry is created, sometimes from the command line08:43
cyphaseor you could use Gimp08:43
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jinotiglionabbit, how could i do it..08:43
jinohow can linux see it08:43
cyphaseAmaranth, not worthless08:43
AmaranthThey aren't meant to do the same things.08:43
ksmurfAmaranth... I have Photoshop too....08:44
songpenguinsup NyChamp75708:44
NyChamp757hey08:44
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tiglionabbitjino: see...  well, linux can read ntfs, but it can both read AND WRITE fat3208:44
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cyphasei haven't used photoshop much, so i can't say which is truly better, but Gimp isn't worthless08:44
jinookie08:44
jinohow do install and work in wine..08:44
tiglionabbitjino: set the sizes the way you want.  Some people here recommend you have ubuntu install a / and a separate /home, but uh08:44
ksmurfI'm not asking to be a jerk jino. I'm asking to see how much room you need08:44
Amaranthtiglionabbit: If you knew why you would think that was a wonderful idea.08:45
tiglionabbitAmaranth: I know why, but I didn't know what sizes to anticipate.  My entire install is on 10gigs and it's happy08:45
jinoksmurf, i wanna watch dvds, and listen to usic as well08:45
ksmurfI have seperate /,/home,/etc ant /opt08:45
jinoso which one will u suggest08:45
Amaranthtiglionabbit: You can switch distros, you can upgrade, you can reinstall and /home _never_ gets touched.08:46
Amaranthtiglionabbit: I set / to 10GB.08:46
tiglionabbitAmaranth: yeah I know.  But that wastes space in each partition...   When I start installing on HDs all over the place I'll start doing that08:46
jinoksmurf, okie08:46
Amaranthtiglionabbit: I guess once you get past 100GB of space it doesn't matter if you waste a couple gigs. :)08:47
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SpecialBuddyIceDC571, how long does it take for wineinstall to finish08:47
ksmurfI wish I have 100 Gb (free)08:47
ksmurfrofl08:47
twb_i wish i could find my gtk-gnutella08:48
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IceDC571IceDC571: about an 50 minutes on my 1.7ghz p408:48
SpecialBuddyha08:48
SpecialBuddyI have the same thing08:48
Amaranthick, p408:48
IceDC571are you serious? the old core version?08:48
SpecialBuddynot sure08:48
jino256 mb08:48
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ksmurfouch..08:48
Amaranthmy 1.2Ghz Duron probably does about as good as that thing08:48
tiglionabbitAmaranth: hehe, well this is just a laptop where I wiped out the default "D".  It's dual with Windows XP Tablet Edition, which isn't available as an install disc, only as a restore disc that must have its partition the exact size the manufacturer set08:49
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: You bought a Compaq?08:49
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IceDC571Amaranth: i have my AMD64 at my friend's house... i miss it08:49
tiglionabbitAmaranth: Acer08:49
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Amaranthtiglionabbit: Oh, I thought only Compaq was retarded. I'll make a note.08:49
Mysteryi'm still having problems with sound in ubuntu :(08:49
SpecialBuddyare the amd64 processors nice08:49
Mysteryi need help08:49
jinoam planning to buy an hp nx 6120 laptop, any suggestions..?08:49
tiglionabbitAmaranth: MS does not allow any manufacturer to give people tablet edition install discs08:50
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Amaranthcyphase: breezy :)08:50
SpecialBuddyI would go to cyberpower and buy one of thier laptops jino08:50
tiglionabbitAmaranth: they do however format their windows partition to fat32, so uh, usable08:50
ksmurfK u want a swap drive.  Go for 10 Gb in windows and 30 to linux. I would (just me people) have /=19Gb and /home=10Gband 1Gb to s3wap.  My Xp would be in Fat3208:50
cyphaseAmaranth, yea, i know :)08:50
cyphaselol08:50
ksmurfis that right people?08:51
cyphasedo you know if breezy is going to have "smart folders" the way apple has with spotlight?08:51
tiglionabbityeah.  Remind him to install windows first, in a partition the size it should be08:51
tiglionabbitthough you can resize it later anyway08:51
ksmurfjino I'm a noob... So that was just my opion08:52
Mysteryso is anyone up for a challenge and help me solve this damn sound problem???08:52
tiglionabbitsmart folders?08:52
ksmurfopnion08:52
Amaranthksmurf: / should be 10G and /home should be 19G08:52
ksmurfdang spellin08:52
jinoksmurf, the manufacturer gives me 4o gb windows forenmatted hdd08:52
tiglionabbitksmurf: actually I'd tell him to give windows 20gb.  Many windows programs are quite heavy, and he'll need places for it to store things because windows can't see his /home08:52
jinoso am planning to delete two partiotions and install linux08:52
tiglionabbitjino: don't delete it08:53
jinothen?08:53
tiglionabbitjino: just use the ubuntu CD to resize the partition08:53
ksmurfoh... It's preformatted and backuped... that changes everything08:53
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nellie_hello08:53
jinotiglionabbit, how can i do that08:53
ksmurfjino forget what I said.... Do you have room for another drive?08:53
jinohow will i set the spave for / and home and swap08:53
ksmurfor money08:54
nellie_can someone tell me how i can install *.deb files?08:54
Mysteryanyone? help? please?08:54
jinoi dont think so08:54
tiglionabbitjino: boot from the cd, and at the partitioning phase, press enter on your windows partition, and then press enter on the "size" indicator08:54
budluvanellie_, dpkg -i blah.deb08:54
Amaranthnellie_: sudo dpkg -i file.deb08:54
twb_why is gnutella so slow08:54
twb_gtk08:54
nellie_thanks08:54
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tiglionabbittwb_: cuz it iz, whatchoo expect.  Find a file that has a little arrow next to it, that will indicate multiple sources are available08:54
ksmurfwill that not nuke his win partition... I had trouble with an uncoropertive emachine08:55
woodwizzleis it possible to create PDF files under linux?08:55
Mysterygah, i've looked everywhere for a solution08:55
woodwizzlepreferable via the gimp?08:55
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Mysterythere's no help on the net08:55
ksmurfWood YEs08:55
tiglionabbitksmurf: no, I don't think it will.  I've resized ntfs partitions for people before08:55
SpecialBuddyIceDC571, what do I do after wineinstall is done08:55
Mysterycan someone help me solve this damn problem???08:55
tiglionabbitMystery: which?08:55
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Wiserdamn that's a lot of people in the channel08:55
nellie_damn "nerolinux_2.0.0.0-7_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive"08:55
woodwizzleksmurf, can you gimme a nudge in the right direction, I havn't been able to find anything useful via google08:55
ksmurfWood np Just a sec08:56
Mysterytiglionabbit: sound! i don't have sound and ALSA comes with an error when it starts up saying "Invalid card number"08:56
bimberinellie_: bad download perhaps?08:56
Mysteryi looked on the net08:56
Mysterynothing08:56
tiglionabbitMystery: damn..  is there an ubuntu wiki about soundcard support?08:56
nellie_bimberi, like i know, maybe i'll try again :)08:56
Mysteryi looked everywhere >_>08:56
Mysteryi mean everywhere08:56
tiglionabbithttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%2908:57
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bimberinellie_: see if you can check it against an md5sum08:57
jinotiglionabbit, thank you08:57
ksmurfWood openOfice prints to PDF08:57
SpecialBuddyIceDC571, what do I do after wineinstall is done08:57
ksmurfIs that what u mean?08:57
jinotiglionabbit, how do iet my swap space08:57
tiglionabbitiet?08:57
jinoand spaces for / and home08:57
ksmurfjino.  Tiglionrabbit says you can resize your parts08:58
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AmaranthMystery: Perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary can help.08:58
nellie_bimberi, no i can't, but if i doubleclict the file, it opens it with some other program08:58
jinoksmurf, okie08:58
woodwizzleksmurf... hmm, I'll give that a try then. Not exactly what I was hoping for but it may do the trick08:58
tiglionabbitjino: it should be pretty explanatory once you're in the partitioning stage.  Just resize the windows partition, and it should show a "20gb empty space" entry in there.  Select that, and add partitions into it.  Set the format of one of them to "swap", and the linux ones to "ext3"08:58
ksmurfwood Hope I helped08:59
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MysteryAmaranth: i'll try that link but i think i've tried just about everything by now..09:00
Mystery...i hope it works09:00
jinotiglionabbit, thanx09:00
tiglionabbitjino: good luck with your install.  Once you're in, come in here and party09:01
jinotiglionabbit, yo09:01
tiglionabbitya?09:01
jinotiglionabbit, yup09:01
jinotiglionabbit, will that auto detect mty ac97 sound card09:01
jinodo i need to set some thing extra09:02
tiglionabbitjino: lemme check the compatibilities09:02
SpecialBuddyIceDC571,09:02
jinookie09:02
tiglionabbithttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards  <- it here?09:02
tiglionabbitjino: ^09:04
ksmurfI'm going through the painful process of installing SP2.... why I don't know09:04
tiglionabbitksmurf: so internet explorer will no longer install harmful activeX controls?09:05
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jinotiglionabbit, i dindnt get u09:06
nellie_hey anyone? what's wrong when i get "`nerolinux_2.0.0.0-7_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive", and file appears to open if i double click it?09:06
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hodgmandoes anyone know of an app that will capture a specified region on my desktop and will allow me to send that to a streaming server ?09:06
ksmurfDon't do it nellie09:06
ksmurflol09:06
twb_why am i not able to connect to eMule?09:06
woodwizzleksmurf, that actually worked out pretty good. Thanks! =)09:06
twb_nvm, got it09:06
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tiglionabbitjino: I said, is your sound card listed on that site?09:07
ksmurfnp wood.  I'm a noob at linux but I know my puters09:07
SpecialBuddyhow would I get my console to look like this again user@ubuntu:~/wine-20050628$09:07
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tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: change the variable PS109:07
hyphenatedSpecialBuddy: set PS1 properly09:07
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Mysterytiglionabbit: well i might try installing a new alsa driver09:08
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SpecialBuddywell it looked like that but I changed users but I want it to look like that again09:08
Mysterybut i'm not sure how to go about doing it?09:08
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jinono idea09:08
Mysteryi'm downloading the latest driver now09:08
jinotiglionabbit, lemme check09:09
ksmurfAnyone try the beta Oo2?09:09
harold_Anyone seen this: My terminal display, since the Ubuntu installation, is divided into multiple parts, and flickers.09:09
SpecialBuddynot sure what PS1 is09:09
tiglionabbitMystery: just look around the wiki for things related to your hardware, search it for "sound" and such09:09
jtan325_SpecialBuddy, you have to edit you .bashrc file09:09
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: PS1 is a shell variable.  You set it by saying PS1="blah blah" or whatever you want09:09
jtan325_SpecialBuddy, in ubuntu you probably already have a deafult PS1 set09:09
ksmurfharold Your vert or hort sync is wrong09:09
Mysterytiglionabbit:  i have09:09
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: it is usually set when bash starts, via the .bashrc file09:09
Mysteryit's just not there09:09
SpecialBuddyoh09:10
Mysteryi don't think this sound card is even suppost to exist o.O09:10
jtan325_make sure you put your PS1 after that line(s), or comment out the previous PS109:10
harold_ksmurf: Thank you.  Do you know how to fix this?09:10
tiglionabbitMystery: what's it called?09:10
cafuegoSpecialBuddy: set PS1 to "\u@\h:\w$ "09:10
Mysteryit's an ectiva 5.109:10
Mysterycreative ectiva09:10
ksmurfwhat is the command to config xorg.... is it dpkg xorg?09:10
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jinotiglionabbit, bye09:10
memoryleaki have problems to power off my lap-top (Hoary). i added "nolapic" to the menu.lst, but it doesn't turn off after message "Power Down". Can anyone help?09:11
harold_ksmurf...I'm using Warty, so I believe it's xserver-xfree8609:11
ksmurfWhat is that horizontal and vertical sync of you moniter?09:11
jtan325_ksmurf, the actual xorg.conf should be in /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf09:11
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jtan325_scratch that, /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:12
ksmurfharold... warty I have no Idea about but what u need to do is find out the vert and horz sync and reconfigure xfree8609:12
harold_ksmurf: Thanks09:13
ksmurfnp09:13
tiglionabbitksmurf: can't he just press the buttons on his monitor to display them, or look up the model on the internet?09:13
ksmurfjtan....I see that file so much I dream about it ... rofdl09:13
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harold_tiglionabbit: I'm using a PowerBook G309:13
ksmurftig.... yes but not on lcd's or old moniters09:14
tiglionabbitharold_: hm, lcd.  Is there a manual?09:14
tiglionabbitm09:14
tiglionabbitx doesn't detect it right?09:14
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tiglionabbit!resolution09:14
ksmurfxfree8609:14
ubotuI heard resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:14
harold_tiglionabbit: No manual (it's a PowerBook).  Right, X won't run.09:14
tiglionabbitwont run at all now?09:14
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tiglionabbit!x09:14
harold_Hasn't ever run.09:14
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?09:14
harold_Just completed install last night.09:15
tiglionabbitwell darn09:15
ksmurfa powerbook.....09:15
ksmurfhmmm.  Laptops are funky09:15
harold_I'll check the wiki; thanks guys/gals09:15
ksmurfPowerbook is apple right09:15
ukatohm, has anyone here ran steam from wine before09:15
ksmurf?09:15
harold_ksmurf: yes09:15
sinfernowhat does pass mean in fstab09:15
ksmurfharold pm me09:16
harold_ksmurf: Okay09:16
tiglionabbitsinferno: man fstab, and type /pass, then use n to jump between em09:16
ksmurfukato I have heard of it but I personally have not09:17
jtan325_sinferno, it means whether or not to check the filesystem when you boot09:17
harold_ksmurf: How do i private message?] 09:17
sinfernojtan325, check it for what? errors?09:18
harold_not familiar with IRc09:18
ksmurfAmaranth u still here?09:18
SpecialBuddyIceDC571,09:18
Amaranthksmurf: Yeah09:18
ukatoksmurf, i see. i just got it working, but it won't boot, and i think my video card has to have Open GL enabled09:18
ukatobut anyway09:18
tiglionabbitharold_: /msg username blah blah blah09:18
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twb_this may be a stupid question, but after you download a song on eMule, how do you play them?09:19
tiglionabbittwb_: use one of linux's many media players09:20
tiglionabbittwb_: some you have installed may be listed under applications -> sound & video09:20
ukatohow would i enable openGL09:21
ukato?09:21
tiglionabbitenable...09:21
twb_that aren't downloaded to a specific file are they?09:21
jtan325_install nvidia driver?09:21
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tiglionabbittwb_: wha?09:21
Mezukato - try running the command glxgears and see if it works... mine did by default09:21
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twb_the songs, are they sent to a specific file after downloa09:22
ukatomez, if it displays, it's running?09:22
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sladenukato: it should "just work"09:22
sladenukato: what card do you have?09:22
tiglionabbittwb_: yes, your download directory, it should be set somewhere in the program you're downloading with.09:22
Mezif it displays and dosnt look jerky, it's running09:22
johntramphey how in apt can I see how big a downlaod will be without downloading anything?09:22
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johntramplike emerge -p in gentoo09:22
ukatoATI rage 128 pro09:22
ukatocutting edge, i am09:22
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sladenjohntramp: apt-get install ...    and then press Ctrl-C09:23
tiglionabbitjohntramp: I'm not sure, but in synaptic you can right-click on it and select properties09:23
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johntrampoh09:23
Mezjohntramp, use the -s option to simulate ;)09:23
tiglionabbitjohntramp: yes, apt-get should give you a yes/no prompt before it actually installs09:23
johntrampso there isnt a separate command09:23
johntrampok thanks Mez09:23
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johntramptiglionabbit, sometimes it doesnt09:23
pregohello. I'm planning to buy a new machine, yesterday already talked about purchuasing an AMD64.09:23
FlannelKingsynaptec also shows you total filesize at the bottom09:23
ukatosladen, it's running, so i guess it's working09:23
pregoMy question is: are dual-core supported by ubuntu?09:24
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Mezprego, yes, but there are sometimes problems09:24
twb_wow, no sound...one problem after another09:24
pregoMez, which kind of problems?09:24
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s0n1cm0nk3y_anybody know of a way to see exactly what is installed for my system, like say how alsa is installed09:25
pregos0n1cm0nk3y_, use synaptic to see what it is installed09:25
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_:  there is a section in synaptic09:25
twb_wtf stupid linux09:26
twb_im goin to bed09:26
pregoBesides, are there problems with sata disks (not necessary with dual-core cpu)09:26
tiglionabbittwb_: not stupid linux, stupid j0009:26
tiglionabbitI mean you09:26
tiglionabbit=P09:26
tiglionabbitsorry09:26
pregoheh, I'm stupid also09:26
twb_this thing is bull09:26
tiglionabbittwb_: mm, bull, that's what's for breakfast09:26
tiglionabbitor dinner09:26
Mezprego - if you're planning to install to a SATA disk, there are sometimes problems with pivot_root... but that's being fixed upstream I believe09:27
s0n1cm0nk3y_ah okay, say if i was going to install a different distro, hehe, hypothetically, do you think since ubuntu works with alsa on my hardware i can just install alsa-base and it should work. my audio is onboard09:27
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Mezs0n1cm0nk3y_, most likely yes, but you may need to do a lot of customisation09:27
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s0n1cm0nk3y_ouch, alot, thats probably where ill screw up mez, is their a way to auto configure it for my system?09:28
pregoMez, finally what about pci-express? I plan to put a nvidia card and I have the choice of pci-express instead of AGP. I would use Nvidia's drivers.09:28
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Mezs0n1cm0nk3y_, not tried any others for a while09:29
Mezand prego http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/09:29
s0n1cm0nk3y_mez what doy ou mean?09:29
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Mezs0n1cm0nk3y_, I've no idea about alsa configuration, I havent had to do it for ages09:29
s0n1cm0nk3y_ah, i know its partly retarded, but does everyone in here use ubuntu, or do some of you also use gentoo09:30
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s0n1cm0nk3y_thats the second os im questioning, for my main pc09:31
Mezsome of us use other OSes as well, just not me :D09:31
pallavi want to setup an ftp server how can i do that?? what do i need to do??09:31
memoryleakpallav: start synaptics, klick to search button and search for "ftp server" in name and package description09:32
pallavthen?09:32
harold_Night, everyone09:32
tiglionabbitpallav: then install it and have fun times09:32
tiglionabbithehe09:32
pallavinstall which one??09:33
ksmurfwhat is the difference between apptitude and apt?09:33
harold_Goodnight, until another day of installation fun!09:33
pregoMez, I might use legacy mode at bios for sata disk if I have trouble, I guess...09:33
memoryleakyour favourite one09:33
FlannelKingaptitude uses apt, its just a frontend09:33
tiglionabbitksmurf: apt is a protocol, aptitude is a frontend for it09:33
pregoMez, btw nice link :-))09:33
Mezprego :D I think it might have been fixed in upstream and work in breezy - but doesnt work in debian - not too sure09:33
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pregoMez what is "upstream" some kind of enhanced hoary?09:34
s0n1cm0nk3y_um side question, anybody know what release ubuntu is on, is this the 4 release or something further?09:34
memoryleakpallav: you should first get more info about the ftp server you want, before you install it09:34
s0n1cm0nk3y_ubuntu 5.04 i mean09:34
pallavk09:34
FlannelKings0n1cm0nk3y_, what do you mean?09:34
Mezprego... upstream is the upstream packages... we take programs and package them, upstream is the people who write te programs we package09:34
s0n1cm0nk3y_flannelking how many releases of ubuntu have been released, just curiousity09:35
pregoMez, how do I use upstream for a new installation that probably might have problems with current hoary install disk?09:35
FlannelKingWarty, and Hoary.  Its only been around for a little over a year.09:36
pallavis there a  simple gui ftp sevrer program you guys know of??09:36
johntrampgftp09:36
johntrampoh server09:36
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memoryleakjohntramp: server09:36
Mezprego ... using upstream means compiling things from sratch09:36
johntrampI use pureftpd but there is no gui09:36
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tiglionabbitsay, why is ubuntu on version 5 already?  What were versions 1-3?09:36
pregoMez, oops. Thanks.09:37
johntrampthere might be something in webmin to make it gui'ish09:37
memoryleaki never heard about a ftp server with gui for linux09:37
Mezprego - and I'd suggest LFS or gentoo if you want to compile everything09:37
pallavhe he he09:37
pallavok09:37
pregotiglionabbit, versioning numbers mean year/month09:37
pregoMez, I have not so much free time...09:37
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit version 5, if you mean the version number it means its 2005  5 for the year09:37
tiglionabbitprego: oh, so there are 4 years of development we didn't know of?09:37
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pregotiglionabbit, I don't know you, but I am in 200509:38
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: ooooh, so it has nothing to do with the actual work at all?09:38
memoryleakpallav: if you install proftpd, there is a Webmin module that you can use for server configuration09:38
Meztiglionabbit, 5=year 04 = month09:38
Mez5 = 2005409:38
tiglionabbitok09:38
Mez5 = 2005 *09:38
Mez04 = april09:38
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tiglionabbitok I got it the first time09:38
Mez;)09:38
tiglionabbitsheesh09:38
pallavthanks09:38
stisevgood fucking lord09:38
pallav:)09:38
Mezstisev - watch your language09:38
stisevSorry09:38
stisevbut I'm VERY pissed off right now09:39
tiglionabbitI just expected version numbers to have to do with significant improvements09:39
stisevfor the love of my sanity anyone know anything about VMWare (linux)09:39
Mezsisev, well that doesnt mean you can waive the CoC09:39
stisevCoC?09:39
stisev??09:39
Mezstisev - #vmware09:39
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit nope its october 2005, thats why i was curious to how many releases have been out yet, and wondering if anybody here knew09:39
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stisevMez: I tried... I tried 50 times. No one responds there, not even 24 hours later09:39
Amaranthbreezy will be the third release09:39
tiglionabbitdoes that mean every version of ubuntu is going to be .04 .10 .04 .10 over and over?09:39
stisev:(09:39
FlannelKing5.10 (every six months)09:39
FlannelKingyes tiglionabbit09:40
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Mezstisev: CoC: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct09:40
stisevah09:40
stisevk09:40
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tiglionabbitthat sounds kind of stupid, but whatever09:40
stisevI just can't get VMware to work.09:40
ksmurfstisev what do u need in vmware09:40
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tiglionabbitubuntu 1000.4, Amaranth09:40
stisevksmurf I'm trying to get VMware tools setup on my linux box09:40
stisevksmurf: please go here09:40
stisevhttp://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/41500581473109:40
stisevIt has a full explanation of my problem with followup and a screenshot of the error09:41
AmaranthMez: I guess it's a champagne problem.09:41
MezChampagne?09:41
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Mezoh09:41
AmaranthIf we run into this problem we need to be popping the corks off some champagne and celebrating.09:42
Mezchampagne... the WD drives09:42
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ksmurfok09:42
ksmurfok?09:42
AmaranthI meant the year 3000 thing09:42
Mezoh, ah I get it noe :D09:42
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stisevack09:42
stisevsorry, did anyone say anything? my client crashed09:43
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memoryleak<stisev> ack09:43
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memoryleak<stisev> sorry, did an...09:43
memoryleak:)09:43
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zeenixhi09:44
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, possibly, unless they are late or early, or take a break or vacation09:45
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stisev?09:45
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inemonalioth: all ready for when virus/F/sexy comes back? :p09:45
s0n1cm0nk3y_anybody else here having some troubles with ubuntu repositories, i usually have troubles with things like flux, also ive had troubles getting rhythm box to work in xfce, any ideas why that happens, i get something like cant read this stream09:45
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tiglionabbit!repositories09:46
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:46
ArniaI wonder if I can achieve something akin to an immersion environment for language learning if I write my code using Latin for the identifiers and comments.09:46
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: the fluxbox on the repos is really old09:46
ArniaI think I may drive everyone else mad though09:46
tiglionabbit!scim09:46
ubotuI heard scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/09:46
Jesse1whats a good website editor for ubuntu?09:47
s0n1cm0nk3y_ah, is that why nothing shows up in the right click menu?09:47
tiglionabbitJesse1: there's screem09:47
inemoI have an iBook running ubuntu with a 2MB/s internet connection and 1.4GB HD space.  Any idea's as to what I could do with it?  I already have a website, ftp, irc bot running off my iMac and I don't really know what to use the iBook for.  So any ideas would be appreciated. :)09:47
FlannelKingArachnophilia, if you have java09:47
Nermalinemo, a digital photo frame09:47
tiglionabbitArnia: I believe you should be able to add keyboards for different language layouts09:47
Nermalwith things like mythtv for weather, etc09:48
Jesse1tiglionabbit, ill have a look at that09:48
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tiglionabbitArnia: to system -> prefs -> keyboard09:48
inemoNermal: hmm, could I just run mythtv for weather fullscreen anyway?09:48
Jesse1:( i capped my download limit09:48
Nermalalso attach a cctv camera and run motion on it, along with a bluetooth usb dongle. run hci tool ever minute, and if your phone is out of reach, turn the camera on and watch for motion as security09:48
Nermalinemo, yah09:48
s0n1cm0nk3y_inemo, lol if you dont want it...... : ), but you could use it for admin purposes on your network, checking security?09:48
inemoNermal: haha, got that already ;)09:48
Nermal:)09:49
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inemos0n1cm0nk3y_: nice try :p and my powerbook is tooled up for security..09:49
Arniatiglionabbit: I can use my en-GB layout for writing Latin ;)09:49
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slackerok i just updated my nvidia drivers, i was JUST running glxgears a second ago and now when i try to run it i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:49
slackerglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.09:49
inemoNermal: think i'll go the route of installing mythtv for constant weather updates on that screen :)09:50
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s0n1cm0nk3y_inemo lol, you cant blame me, powerbooks are nice systems, so what are you running for the security? ive tried knoppix std, but it became a pain in the arse after a bit09:50
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cjnodellHello09:51
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Poromiesok, this a silly question, but what are the fast-keys for XMMS's "search"?09:52
cjnodellI have a question about ndiswrapper09:52
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ArniaKarlosII: Peter Panda vs Bertie Badger -- the great showdown09:52
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inemodon't really need that much security on it imo, just a small home network of 4 machines, wired and wireless, including a wireless bridge to my room network. everything is passworded and protected, I run OS X.4.1 on the powerbook, X.4.1 on mothers iMac, 10.4.1 server on my iMac, and now hoary on the iBook09:52
KarlosII:)09:52
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cjnodellcan anybody help me out?09:53
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cjnodell...09:54
sinfernoi think its late09:54
sinfernoeveryone is afk and whatnot09:54
cjnodellah, got it.09:55
cjnodellTime zone throw me off a bit09:55
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tiglionabbit!ndiswrapper09:55
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know09:55
tiglionabbitdarn09:56
FlannelKingwhats your question cjnodell?09:56
sinfernodoes anyone know09:56
sinfernowhat that wikipedia site is09:56
inemoubotu: am I still smoking crack?09:56
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, inemo09:56
s0n1cm0nk3y_inemo, wow theres alot of mac love in your family, i envy you, my dads still stuck on windows, and im having to do the usual maintenance such as virus scans in the bg09:56
sinfernoglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.09:56
sinfernoi was running glxgears right before i installed the nvidia drivers from the package thing09:57
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mischahi there: i have a serious problem with our :) ubuntu hoary version on my dell inspirion 9300. sometimes it freezes about 5 mins after bootup. i can't find a thing in the syslog about a crash...what can i do...?09:57
inemos0n1cm0nk3y_: always been mac users, I started to learn to use a computer by hanging onto the coffee table and waggling the Apple ] [ joystick around aged 1ish...09:57
sinfernolol nvidia-setting is a joke09:58
tiglionabbithey guys.  My parents are completely averse to learning ANYTHING, like a button that looks slightly different from windows is a HUGE PAIN to them for some reason.  They are completely deathly afraid windows will blow up their computers at any second.  What should I do?09:58
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inemobrainwash them09:58
sinfernoget a piece of masking tape09:58
s0n1cm0nk3y_lol, i started off on a old unix machine my buddy in the military gave me, learned the way around the cmd prompt that way, now ive moved into linux, and it appears a few years of windows has dumbed me, all the way from 3.1 to xp pro09:58
sinfernoand write start on it09:58
zeenixhi again09:58
ArniaNuclear war... it solves everything09:58
FlannelKingput pastic explosives on their monitor?09:58
tiglionabbitFlannelKing: I don't think they'd like that09:58
s0n1cm0nk3y_oh btw that was addressed to inemo09:59
zeenixdid any of the message make it on the channel (except for 'hi') ?09:59
FlannelKingWell, they expect it to explode...09:59
zeenixs/message/messages/09:59
inemos0n1cm0nk3y_: i've got about 10/12 macs in the family, about 8/9 of them are mine :D, I started messing around with the cmd line when I got OS X09:59
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inemonalioth: nalioths_dog is a bot right?09:59
sinfernowhats the difference between removal and complete removal on spm09:59
FlannelKingcomplete removes config as well10:00
s0n1cm0nk3y_10/12, 8/9 yours, um ... you want a new friend heheh ^^. and any of those a mac mini, ive been wondering how those things run, w/ and w/o linux10:00
s0n1cm0nk3y_and i dont mean yellow dog, yuck10:00
FlannelKingthat way you can reinstall something (with just remove), you can also go back later and remove the config10:00
sinfernoif im going to install nvidia drivers from thier site should i uninstall the ones in spm10:00
osirisDoes anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?10:01
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zeenixi installed ubuntu on this newly bought notebook of mine yesterday and all was working good but this monring when i booted, it gave me a kernel panic10:02
zeenixi rebooted many times but it didnt help, so i tried something very stupid: re-install grub10:02
sladenukato: glxinfo | grep direct    will tell you10:02
zeenixbut the grub didn't install successfully and now even the grub doesn't load successfully10:02
FlannelKingif nothing else, reinstall ubuntu10:03
sladenzeenix: what does the panic say?  Is it a panic, or can it just not find the root partition?10:03
sinfernoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:03
sinfernoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:03
sinfernoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:03
sinfernoError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual10:03
s0n1cm0nk3y_zeenix, i can help a lil, i just learned how the whole grub number scheme goes ^^ (slightly proud of self*10:03
sladenzeenix: if it's a new laptop and you only installed yesterday;  it'll only take you 15minutes and you won't loose any work if you reinstall10:03
sinfernowhat od i doooooooo10:03
zeenixsladen, it was something regarding the serial port interrupts10:03
zeenixs0n1cm0nk3y_, cool, let me paste the problem i am having now10:04
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s0n1cm0nk3y_zeenix, lol, i dont know how much i can help, i just learned the numbering scheme so far for the install on my gentoo box, hehe, im not sure at my abilities to help you but i will try10:06
s0n1cm0nk3y_inemo, so besides your madre who else is running mac?10:06
znhmorning10:06
znhhm.. I'm trying to play a .asx file, xmms doens't seems to support it, anyone known with player that does?10:07
sinfernowhen i try to do nvidia-glx-config enable it tell me to change nv to nvidia, i did that and nothing happened10:07
sinfernosame error10:07
tiglionabbitznh: dunno.  That's a streaming file, isn't it?10:08
znhtiglionabbit: yea10:08
znhi'll see what's in the file10:08
tiglionabbitsame problems here...10:08
FlannelKingasx is windows media, I believe10:08
znhFlannelKing: that's right10:09
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tiglionabbitit's windows media streaming, so it doesn't contain the actual audio, just info on how to connect to it I believe10:09
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FlannelKingyep, just like ram10:09
znhtiglionabbit: your right, just open the file and you can pick the url10:09
tiglionabbitznh: oh really?  coolies10:09
sinfernowhats the ubuntu wikepeidia site10:09
znh\o/10:09
FlannelKingwikipedia site? or the ubuntuwiki?10:10
s0n1cm0nk3y_znh, for streaming win32 codecs, which im pretty sure .asx (could be wrong) i havent found much of a way to get past that, though i have heard of mplayer doing good with different kinds of streams10:10
cyphasehttp://www.ubuntu.com/wiki10:10
sinfernothanks10:10
znhs0n1cm0nk3y_: i'll try the w32codecs10:10
tiglionabbitznh: didn't work for me10:10
znhtiglionabbit: same for me, I get the message they are already installed10:10
cyphaseor just wiki.ubuntu.com10:10
cyphaselol10:11
tiglionabbitthat'll get you wmp, but no streaming10:11
s0n1cm0nk3y_znh, not sure if those will work though, cause i already have the win32codecs in, but im still dealing with troubles in streams, such as quicktime and wmv streaming from skateboarding sites10:11
znhs0n1cm0nk3y_: I'll try mplayer10:11
FlannelKingavifile can play them10:11
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tiglionabbitFlannelKing: what's that?10:12
tiglionabbitsay, I wonder if streamtuner could play em10:12
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IceDC571tiglionabbit: what are you trying to play?10:13
FlannelKingI dont know, well, its a media player, but it showed up when I googled, it appears mplayer can play it too10:13
s0n1cm0nk3y_znh good luck, may the horse be with you10:13
tiglionabbitIceDC571: we're talking about .asx10:13
tiglionabbitI don't have any .asx handy to test it though10:13
znhs0n1cm0nk3y_: heh, thanks :)10:13
tiglionabbitcould someone give me one to try this out?  heh10:13
IceDC571heh.. good luck with asx, it belongs to M$10:13
tiglionabbitwe know10:13
golgorcan anyone tell me where packages install themself? :P10:13
znhtiglionabbit: i'll try the asx with streamtuner10:13
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, lol, i dont but my step bros hdd that has some ......adult streams in .asx, does. lol10:14
tiglionabbitgolgor: right-click on em in synaptic, go to properties10:14
FlannelKinggolgor, synaptec can10:14
tiglionabbitgolgor: or use dpkg -L10:14
golgoryea, but i used apt-get10:14
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, and no i am not willing to test, that guy is disturbingly secure when it comes to his files10:14
golgorare they still in synpatic?10:14
tiglionabbitgolgor: yes, but you can just dpkg -L thepackage instead10:14
FlannelKingyes, apt and synaptec are linked, but you can use dpkg if you prefer the CLI10:15
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golgorgreat10:15
golgorthanks10:15
IceDC571what does the a stand for in aMSN and aMule?10:16
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tiglionabbit"all platforms"?10:16
IceDC571alternative?10:16
FlannelKingall platform10:17
IceDC571ohh10:17
znhtiglionabbit: streamtuner is just a front-end to xmms10:17
tiglionabbitznh: yeah but it will probably be able to extract the url to feed to xmms10:17
tiglionabbitznh: and it can be a frontend to anything, set your preferences10:17
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit how about vlc, doesnt it have streaming possibilities?10:17
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: I don't know.  Give me an .asx to try it out =P10:18
golgoranyone familiar with wine?10:18
FlannelKingActually, All Platform is just for aMule, aMSN is apparently for "Alvaros Messenger" or "Another MSN"10:18
IceDC571solution.. wine windows media player lol10:18
znhtiglionabbit: this may be interesting http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/2004-May/069467.html10:18
tiglionabbitIceDC571: no.10:18
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IceDC571FlannelKing: do you use aMSN?10:19
FlannelKingNope, but thats what the home page said, google is my friend :)10:19
tiglionabbitznh: can't connect to that link10:19
s0n1cm0nk3y_um let me check the wonderfull google tiglionabbit10:19
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znhtiglionabbit: works for me, but it's in australian so there's much between u :P10:20
s0n1cm0nk3y_just to make sure, you got w32codecs installed right tiglionabbit?10:20
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golgoranyone familiar with wine?10:20
tiglionabbitoh neato!10:20
rekrgot an install problem10:20
tiglionabbitmy mplayer mozilla plugin is playing the asx just fine10:20
IceDC571golgor: i am10:21
znhhehe my bird is making noise at my shoulder AAAH!10:21
tiglionabbitwonderfully in fact10:21
tiglionabbitI'm amazed10:21
znhtiglionabbit: where did you get that plugin?10:21
IceDC571what are you watching? hmm..10:21
tiglionabbitznh: synaptic10:21
golgorIceDC571, can you tell me where the main directory is?10:21
tiglionabbitmozilla-mplayer I believe10:21
tiglionabbitIceDC571: just something I found by googling "filetype:asx windows"10:22
rekrI have windows installed on a SATA raptor on the primary partition, I have 5 gigs partitioned off for an ubuntu install, the install goes fine GRUB sees my WIndows install I tell it to install GRUB then when I reboot it still goes straight to the windows bnoot menu no GRUB10:22
znhtiglionabbit: and then?10:22
rekrI get no errors during install10:22
tiglionabbitznh: then what?10:22
IceDC571golgor: um.. i'll have to search for it hang on, what seems to be the problem?10:22
s0n1cm0nk3y_or for that fact how did you get mplayer running, its never stable for me, or for some of the my friends who use ubuntu10:22
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znhtiglionabbit: I got synaptic loaded, but what's it called?10:22
tiglionabbitit's called mozilla-mplayer10:22
znhtiglionabbit: sweet!10:23
tiglionabbitit plug-ins firefox automagically10:23
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znhtiglionabbit: it cries about mplayer10:23
tiglionabbitznh: then get mplayer-58610:23
internatok stupid questoin, what do i need to do to turn the standard ubuntu into using kde instead of gnome?10:23
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golgorquery IceDC57110:23
tiglionabbitor whatever is right for your build10:23
tiglionabbitI mean architecture10:23
tiglionabbitinternat: install kubuntu-desktop10:24
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internathow much does it change?10:24
tiglionabbitinternat: and then when you login next time, click on sessions, and select kde10:24
internatcause frigs me why sound isnt working with the kubuntu install cds10:24
tiglionabbitinternat: it just adds a lot of programs10:24
ubuntu_hello10:24
znhtiglionabbit: the following packages have unmet dependecies10:24
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tiglionabbitznh: add a backports mirror10:24
tiglionabbit!backports10:24
ubotusomebody said backports was http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/10:24
znhhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/10:25
ubuntu_i have an interesting problem10:25
s0n1cm0nk3y_somebody need backports, I GOT EM ^^10:25
tiglionabbitubuntu_: what is it?10:25
s0n1cm0nk3y_if you want i can give yout he url for em10:25
ubuntu_right now, i am on my desktop using live ubuntu10:25
tiglionabbitya and?10:25
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ubuntu_however it doesnt boot on my notebook10:25
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ubuntu_i mean the very same cd10:25
s0n1cm0nk3y_http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:25
Evilhello all10:25
ubuntu_every setting is okey10:26
tiglionabbitubuntu_: is your notebook the same architecture as your desktop?10:26
ubuntu_the booting sequence starts from cd10:26
LinuxRocGood Eve everyone10:26
rekrI have windows installed on a SATA raptor on the primary partition, I have 5 gigs partitioned off for an ubuntu install, the install goes fine GRUB sees my WIndows install I tell it to install GRUB then when I reboot it still goes straight to the windows bnoot menu no GRUB10:26
ubuntu_yes both are i38610:26
znhtiglionabbit: I have already backport mirrors10:26
hkdevhello everyone10:26
rekranyone know why this is happening?10:26
tiglionabbitznh: then you should be able to get mplayer, shouldn't you?  I got it10:26
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Tsunamiiok dokie10:26
Tsunamiihow do you work wine?10:27
Tsunamiii've installed it already :P10:27
znhtiglionabbit: I'll compile mplayer and mozilla-mplayer at myself.. this is too weird for words :P10:27
IceDC571Tsunamii: type wine appname.exe10:27
FlannelKingrekr, are you sure youre not just missing the auto-timout of a hidden grub menu?10:27
tiglionabbitTsunamii: open the terminal, and say "wine" followed by the exe you want to run10:27
Tsunamiireally?10:27
ubuntu_so, xp cd is booting, and another recovery cd from toshiba is booting but this live cd isn@t booting10:27
Tsunamiithat's it?10:27
IceDC571Tsunamii: yep10:27
Tsunamiiyou're kidding me10:27
IceDC571Tsunamii: what are you planning to run?10:27
Tsunamiiis wine limited to certain programs though?10:27
Tsunamiiwell, i want to run steam and half life later :P10:27
Nermalgfl :)10:27
IceDC571Tsunamii: yes, there's an application database you can look at10:27
Tsunamiihey?10:28
IceDC571Tsunamii: http://appdb.winehq.org/10:28
hkdevrekr: is your ubuntu partition a primary?10:28
rekrShouldnt it got straight into GRUB and default to ubuntu10:28
LinuxRocTsunamii: I would go to wine's site and they will help you out with extra setting if needed10:28
Tsunamiiso basically it's an extension that i'll need to download?10:28
FlannelKingIt isnt 'limited' to those applications, it depends on what the application actually uses10:28
rekrboth the windows and the ubuntu / partitioins are primary10:28
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr if you went through the regular install it should have made ubuntu your default, at least it did for me10:28
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr did you reinstall windows or something, because windows can be a pain and hog the mbr10:29
Tsunamiii can't find steam or half life on that list, do i click one of the other links?10:29
TsunamiiIceDC571, ^10:29
hkdevrekr: u don't have a special partition for /boot right?10:29
Tsunamiinvm, found it ;)10:30
djppatent decision in EU Parliament today folks...10:30
rekrno special partitionn I let ubuntu do a guided partiotining scheme it took 5 gigs for / and 500 megs for swap10:30
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tiglionabbitsay guys, two instances of scim appear on startup.  How can I make it so only one starts?10:30
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s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, just to clarify, did you manually set your partition table?10:31
hkdevthe GRUB is not installed properly. I had the same issue before.10:31
rekrbasically it seems like the install goes perfect but i dont think it is writing the GRUB to the MBR10:31
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hkdevI re-install and reformatted the partition and it was fine10:31
rekri have tried both autop and manually setting the partition tables,GRUB never seems to load right10:32
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Tsunamiialso10:32
Tsunamiiwould i have to install direct x and the like?10:32
Tsunamiito be able to actually play them?10:32
tiglionabbitwhere would it set such a thing as scim to start at startup?10:32
hkdevmay be some one can help by giving the instruction to manually install the GRUB?10:32
rekrwhich partion should be set as bootable>?10:32
tiglionabbitrekr: if you're using grub, it doesn't matter10:32
frohi have problems with my 2.6.12+rt-preemt kernel, missing some hotplug stuff and probably a lot more. Is there a ubuntu kernel with ingo's realtime-preemt?10:33
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s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, if you setup grub by letting ubuntu do it, nothing should have to be bootable, because grub handles it for you10:33
tiglionabbitrekr: old ms-dos bootloaders look at bootable flags, I believe10:33
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rekralso I have 2 ide drives setup in raid do you think maybe it is installing GRUB to one of theose drives10:33
jsgotangcohello10:33
tiglionabbithello jsgotangco10:33
jsgotangcotiglionabbit: hi there10:34
tiglionabbit!mplayer10:34
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit10:34
hkdevrekr: i usually set my / partition to bootable. otherwise, i set to /boot10:34
tiglionabbitubotu needs to learn some stuff10:34
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?10:34
Tsunamiianyone? :P10:34
jsgotangcooohh we have a bot here10:34
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, maybe you check your iso with the md5 sums?10:34
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Tsunamiido i need to install directx ?10:34
nightswimdirectx?10:35
rekralso when I switch the bootable flag to the / dpartition it doesnt load the windows boot menu it says Error loading operating system, if i switch the boot flag back to the windows partition it loads the windows boot menu10:35
tiglionabbitTsunamii: I don't believe you must install anything.  cedega will run directx programs10:35
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Tsunamiii don't have cedega10:35
Tsunamiii'm using wine10:35
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sinfernook im trying to install the nvidia drivers from thier site, and i installed linux-restriced-modules but it says unable to find kernel source tree10:36
sinfernoit says i can specify but i dont know where to specify10:36
s0n1cm0nk3y_both my windows xp and ubuntu are bootable let me check mine in fdisk10:36
LinuxRocsinferno: try installing the header files for your kernel10:36
bigfoot1hi everyone. i am having difficulty viewing some particular webpages. My first problem was with adrian.warnock.info. The problem, I discovered, was that I couldn't load halocscan.com, which this blog uses to host blog comments/trackbacks. Today, I am trying another blog: www.michellemalkin.com. I have tried the text browser w3m for these, with no success. It's only when i use a proxy such as www.guardster.com (with javascript enabled) can i10:36
bigfoot1access these sites. Can anyone help me?10:36
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: it shouldn't matter10:37
sinfernoLinuxRoc, what is the package name10:37
Tsunamiiwhere's program files with wine?10:37
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s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, well always a poss. it might help10:37
cyphaseLOL!10:37
cyphaseomg10:37
Tsunamiisomebody PM me, if they know10:37
Tsunamiiwhere program files is with wine10:38
cyphasemy cousin reinstalled Ubuntu because she accidently removed the top panel10:38
tiglionabbitTsunamii: program files?  Uh, wine should create a fake C:/ I believe10:38
sinfernoLinuxRoc, should i uninstal linux-restricted-modules in order to install nvidia-kernel-source?10:38
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, yeah my windows partiotn is set to boot, and my ubuntu isnt, odd though that the original windows mbr would overpower grub10:38
s0n1cm0nk3y_im guessing bad iso? but im not sure rekr10:38
sinfernoLinuxRoc, his package is not needed on an Ubuntu system because10:38
sinfernoa pre-compiled kernel module is supplied by the linux-restricted-modules10:38
HrdwrBoBcyphase: heh.. well, it fixed the problem I bet10:38
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jsgotangcoJaneW!10:39
cyphaseHrdwrBoBm, yea :D10:39
IceDC571ive been using linux for months and i just found out the ls -a command10:39
cyphaseit was a fresh installation anyway10:39
tiglionabbitIceDC571: hooray for you, you're learning10:40
tiglionabbit=P10:40
tiglionabbitIceDC571: how else did you see your config files?10:40
tiglionabbit!linux10:41
ubotutiglionabbit: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:41
tiglionabbitubotu linux is a kernel, but commonly refers to awesomeness10:41
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit10:41
IceDC571tiglionabbit: the file manager for amatures.. nautilus.. and my guessing with TAB completion ;)10:41
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, could you fdisk -l so we can see your partitioning scheme?10:41
tiglionabbitIceDC571: lol.10:42
sinfernowhere do i find the kernel-header files10:42
sinfernowhats the name10:42
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rekrim in windows now10:42
djpsinferno: do you need nvidia drivers under hoary?10:42
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sinfernooh nvm i have them installed10:42
sinfernodjp, yes10:42
s0n1cm0nk3y_oh.... hmmmmmm10:43
rekris there a way to get the partitioning shcme in xp/10:43
IceDC571cd .(tab) was my friend.. heh10:43
djpsinferno: why don't you just apt-get nvidia-glx?10:43
benplaut\quit "goodnight everyone"10:43
tiglionabbitsay, can I ask my question again?  Startup thingamabobs-- scim starts up twice, how do I fix that?10:43
sinfernodjp, i did and when i restarted glxgears didnt work10:43
s0n1cm0nk3y_do you have a live cd handy rekr?10:43
benplautdarn!10:43
benplautdid it again!10:43
sinfernodjp, soo i was trying to install the ones from thier site10:43
djpsinferno: oh, i see10:43
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, um you could check the drive manager or whatever its called10:43
s0n1cm0nk3y_i think i can guide you to it, its in computer management i think, right above where you can format a drive or unallocated space10:44
djpsinferno: i use the nv drivers with my geforce2 card due to my free software philosophy, so unfortunately i cannot be much more help i'm afraid10:44
tiglionabbitanybody, yo10:44
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr though i dont think it will tell you which is bootable, thats why i was asking if you had a live cd10:44
sinfernodjp, oh10:45
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, sorry, what was your question? when i dont sleep much i sadly have one track mind10:45
djpsinferno: good luck10:45
tiglionabbitthere are two scim icons in my notification-area10:45
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, ill will be glad to help to my fullest if i can though10:45
sinfernothanks10:45
tiglionabbittwo of em always start up.  How can I make it not do that?10:45
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internati hate to say it, but im quiet disapointed with this. i have no understand of why such a basic soundcard isnt detected/working10:45
rekrright now the windows  partition is et to bootable10:45
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, you running kde as ur wm?10:46
lesshastemaybe not exactly a linux question but what methods are there for logging into a windows machine remotely from linux?10:46
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: no, gnome10:46
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s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, okay, lol, sadly i didnt know who scim was, so im going by google here10:46
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tiglionabbitlesshaste: lots.  Samba is pre-configured, so you can see shared files in Places -> Network Servers10:46
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, does it do that every boot or just this one?10:46
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lesshastetiglionabbit, I didn't mean sharing a file system. I mean like a remote X connection10:47
znhtiglionabbit: now your talking about it, how is that program called.. it's so nice10:47
tiglionabbitlesshaste: vncviewer is also installed, so you can use desktops remotely with that.  And uh, other stuff I don't know much about too10:47
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s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, yeah so is mine, yet i dont have windows taking over the mbr, thats why im curious, do you have ubuntu installed already?10:47
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: every boot, and10:47
qt2hm... how do i get more doftware to download on ubuntu? :o10:47
tiglionabbit!scim10:47
ubotuscim is probably Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/10:47
IceDC571a little out of topic but whats so different about openbsd and freebsd?10:47
tiglionabbitqt: use synaptic10:47
_root_a non-root user on my machine is not able to start x.. problem with pam..could anybody please tell me what are the pam entries ?10:47
lesshastetiglionabbit, thx...  that's single user right?10:48
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, if so see if you can get into ubuntu, turn off the bootable flag, then get into grub and switch it to be able to boot into windows, which im guessing is the first primary on the first drive, so it would be hd0,010:48
tiglionabbit_root_: pam?  first off, are they in the "desktop users" permissions group?10:48
IceDC571comparing both of them i mean10:48
qt2oh, didnt notice that before... :o10:48
tiglionabbitlesshaste: yeah10:48
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_root_tiglionabbit: yes10:48
tiglionabbitlesshaste: there are probably many possibilities out there I don't know about yet10:48
lesshastetiglionabbit, ok... can't find a multiuser solution yet10:49
Mestaphelesdoes the hoary d-i support multiuser partition setup?10:49
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tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: it's probably not dependant on scim, it's a startup item.  Where can I find the config files for startup things?10:49
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: it's not in the gui startup thingo10:49
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JaneWhi jsgotngco10:50
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JaneWhi jsgotangco even10:50
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit im not sure on that, though im pretty sure i was looking around a tweaked such things before, let me see if i can find where the startups are10:50
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, im guessing if anything they will be in system or something like that10:51
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usernamehello10:51
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: system what?10:51
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rekrthats the problem I cant get into ubuntu10:52
IceDC571Hints|ubuntu?? lol10:52
tiglionabbit!grub10:52
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto10:52
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit the gnome panel menu system, but i just checked it and couldnt find anything so im not sure, time to check the wonderful google10:52
rekri can only load the windows boot menu10:52
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, hmmm, do you understand how to use basic linux, like fdisk and such?10:52
Hints|ubuntui got a problem... my screen resolution is 2 small so i can't exit some stuff10:52
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: I don't think it's related to that.  It is a thing that is somehow startup'd10:52
caskeyIs there a package to install a qmail builder?10:53
tiglionabbit!resolution10:53
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:53
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr if so i can give you the url to knoppix or some other live cd, even ubuntus live cd10:53
Hints|ubuntui tried setting it to something larger but it not in list10:53
rekri believe i should be able to use fdisk10:53
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, i know it sounds a bit windows, but try checking it out in synaptic, and if it sounds safe to del it, then do so and reinstall, maybe that might fix it10:54
rekrI have the ubuntu livecd somewhere, but will that let me access my ubuntu install>?10:54
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: groan...10:54
tiglionabbit!scim10:54
ubotumethinks scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/10:54
tiglionabbitlemme check the steps and make sure that's how I set it up10:54
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, lol, sorry, but its the best i can think of at the current moment, im still a bit of a n00b, i just have alot of spare time10:55
tiglionabbitoh cool, the startup files are edited in that howto10:55
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, i think so, i know you can fdisk or use qparted to setup your partitions on your harddrive, but thats all in knoppix so im not sure10:55
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sinfernook i installed the nvidia-glx from apt and now i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:56
sinfernowhen i run gl apps10:56
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, there we go, ubotu is an usung hero of #ubuntu, lol10:56
tiglionabbit!nvidia10:56
ubotusomebody said nvidia was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:56
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znhtiglionabbit: aviplay works perfectly10:57
tiglionabbitznh: for what?10:57
tiglionabbitsinferno: read step 210:57
znhtiglionabbit: playing asx files10:57
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit just out of curiousity, whats witht he ! before nividia or scim?10:57
rekris the GRUB menu defaulted to hidden after an ubuntu install??10:57
znhoh boring classic fm -_-10:57
tiglionabbitznh: I noted a while ago that mozilla-mplayer played em peachy too10:57
Hints|ubuntuhow do i change from terminal back to gui?10:57
tiglionabbits0n1cm0nk3y_: command to ubotu10:58
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, not that i know of, it just boots up from it,10:58
s0n1cm0nk3y_tiglionabbit, oh its a bot, man i need to pay attention10:58
sinfernotiglionabbit, step 2 of what10:58
znhtiglionabbit: mplayer doesn't want to install, so that is nothing for me :(10:58
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tiglionabbitznh: it should...   did I add a marrilat repository or something?  Lemme check the wikis and forums a sec10:58
znhtiglionabbit: ok10:58
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, question, when you did the manual config, did u make ubuntu bootable while you were doing so?10:58
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tiglionabbitoh cool10:59
tiglionabbitubotu mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto10:59
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit10:59
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, sorry, cant find a bloody screen shot to show you what im talking about11:00
tiglionabbitznh: does that guide help you out?  Seems all it does differently is add the multiverse repository.  Do you have that?11:01
znhtiglionabbit: I have, I got a sources from the ubuntuforums which contains all11:02
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internatfwaor even the live version of standard ubuntu has issues with my sound card11:02
sinfernoi still cant get it working11:02
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sinfernoi dont know what u meant by step 211:02
misieqhi there!11:03
rekrim not sure i understand the wuestion, did i make thubuntu partiton bootable?11:03
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tiglionabbitznh: there are other wiki entries for mplayer from source and such11:04
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, during the install in the manual partitioning, theres a setting after you set the partition (when it shows the file system, the size and other stuff) that allows you to make the ubuntu partition bootable, im not sure if its needed, but im guessing that could be the reason for your mbr woes11:04
znhtiglionabbit: okay, but it's not really needed.. aviplay is awesome11:04
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tiglionabbitznh: ok then11:05
misieqi used movixisocreator under windows xp in order to create a bootable iso image with movies, but fat32 isn't able to store files larger than 2gb, so i had to make one ntfs partition, but when i used mkisofs, it created output which diseppeared right after mkisofs quited. i decided to use '-split-output' parameter, so mkisofs created few iso files of 1gb size. the question is how can i write them on dvd????11:05
rekrtried that thats when i get the Error loading operating system11:05
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misieqi'm working on ubuntu now, and have iso images accessible11:06
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, odd, so you set that option to bootable and you get error loading system, you mean it pops up even before grub gives you your choices to boot from?11:07
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s0n1cm0nk3y_to help rekr, does anybody know any problems with sata hard drives and installations ?11:07
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misieqs0n1cm0nk3y_, well, i installed once grub with fedora4 on sata11:08
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misieqs0n1cm0nk3y_ (or rekr), but tell me what the problem is?11:10
tiglionabbit!windows11:10
ubotuit has been said that windows is Everything runs in linux. Your choice of emulation is a difficult one. Cedega, Wine(x), VMware,Xen,CrossOver Office, are there more? let me know.11:10
tiglionabbit!windowsusers11:11
ubotutiglionabbit: Bugger all, i dunno11:11
s0n1cm0nk3y_misieq, rekr is having troubles with grub in his mbr, from what i gather when he has his windows primary set to bootable, it forsakes grub and just boots windows, and when he sets his ubuntu partition during the installation to bootable, he gets system error11:11
tiglionabbitubotu windowsusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant11:11
ubotutiglionabbit: okay11:11
Seveass0n1cm0nk3y_, sounds like he installed grub on the wrong partition11:11
soulflyif I want to use 2.6.12 on hoary, which are the minimum required patches I must download to not interfere with functionality in hoary?11:11
s0n1cm0nk3y_misieq i was curious as to whether you had any troubles with installing to sata, cause im basing my ideas on my ide drives11:11
misieqyes, i had problems11:12
Seveasgrub should be installed on the primary partition during install. If you mess with drive booting settings in the bios later, you will need to change the grub config11:12
s0n1cm0nk3y_seveas from what i gather hes letting ubuntu do it, so im guessing its just installing grub in the mbr, as it did for me11:12
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misieqit seems that you have other /dev-s under grub and under booted linux11:12
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Seveass0n1cm0nk3y_, maybe in the mbr of the wrong drive...11:12
rekryes the error loading pops up before grub it happens during bioses attempt to boot a hard disk11:12
misieqrekr, what drives do you have? i mean only sata or ide as well??11:13
rekrim thinking it might be installing it to one of the IDE drives11:13
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr is windows your first primary partition on the hdd?11:13
Seveasrekr, install grub on the primary boot drive11:13
Seveasgrub can boot windows perfectly fine11:13
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s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, also is the drive your ubuntu and grub installed on your master drive, the primary drive?11:14
rekri have one SATA and 2 IDES in RAID, but the install shows the IDE drives separately as hda and hdc, and the SATA as sda11:14
rekrwhen GRUB is loading it says installing to hd011:14
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Seveasrekr, correct, hd0 is sda11:14
s0n1cm0nk3y_seveas , rekr, yeah mine doesnt have problems, but have windows and ubuntu on the same master drive11:14
tiglionabbit!alternatives11:14
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:14
tiglionabbitubotu forget windows11:15
ubotui forgot windows, tiglionabbit11:15
tiglionabbitubotu windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative11:15
ubotutiglionabbit: okay11:15
tiglionabbitubotu forget windowsusers11:15
ubotui forgot windowsusers, tiglionabbit11:15
rekrim getting no errors during install it installs GRUB fine it seems, it just when it reboots to start ubuntu for the first time, I got directly to the window bott menu, no GRUB11:15
gm78Hey all. I have something weird going on. Xsensors is claiming i have a dead fan, but my fans are running. it is saying there is a third fan, but i dont know what it is talking about. i have uploaded a screenshot to my webspace. http://members.shaw.ca/ryan_mcgregor/Screenshot.png11:15
tiglionabbitubotu alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant11:15
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit11:15
tiglionabbit!osswin11:15
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit11:15
Seveasrekr, is your machine set to boot from the IDE drives?11:15
misieqrekr, you have to type (in grub console) 'root (hd' then hit <tab> - it will tell you, what hard drives grub sees and how are they named.11:15
tiglionabbitubotu osswin is http://osswin.sourceforge.net/11:16
ubotutiglionabbit: okay11:16
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Seveasor is your bios set to show the IDE drives before the SATA drives?11:16
hints|ubuntuhow much space should i give ubuntu?11:16
Seveashints|ubuntu, as much as you want11:16
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misieqrekr, then you have to choose the partition where your ubuntu is (by hitting <tab> and selecting partion where it is installed).11:16
tiglionabbithints|ubuntu: for installing packages and such, at least 5 gigs I'd say11:16
Seveasbut at least a few GB would be nice11:16
s0n1cm0nk3y_rekr, im sure seveas and misieq can help you, im gonna crash, good luck man11:16
Seveass0n1cm0nk3y_, 'night11:17
misieqit's midday in my place ;)11:17
Seveas:)11:17
s0n1cm0nk3y_thnx, and good luck helping him you too misieq11:17
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gm78Does anyone know anything about fans or xsensors, i tried to ask this the other day (the temps were lower then) and no one answered then either. does anyone know if that screenshot looks proper?11:17
s0n1cm0nk3y_its 5 am in mine, im dont sleep much, but its always good to try11:17
bigfoot1does ubuntu come with any podcasting application? I mean: there is an RSS feed that sends audio content to listen to on an mp3 player.11:18
misieqrekr, then type 'setup (hd' and put 0/1/what-else in here - it has to be your primary booted drive11:18
hints|ubuntuthink 20 gig would be enough?11:18
Seveasgm78, screenshot?11:18
rekrthnaks man11:18
Seveashints|ubuntu, more than enough11:18
misieqrekr, so it should look like 'setup (hd0)'11:18
gm78http://members.shaw.ca/ryan_mcgregor/Screenshot.png11:18
hints|ubuntuk11:18
Seveashints|ubuntu, are you partitioning manually?11:18
hints|ubuntudunno lol11:18
gm78Seveas, . http://members.shaw.ca/ryan_mcgregor/Screenshot.png11:18
hints|ubuntuwhatever is easyest lol11:18
rekrmy machine is set to boot from the SATA11:18
misieqrekr, do _not_ add the partition, otherwise grub won't  boot11:18
Seveashints|ubuntu, you need at least 2 partitions for Ubuntu, 1 for the files and 1 for swap11:19
hints|ubuntuo.o11:19
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Seveashow much memory do you have?11:19
rekrbut the BIOS detects the SATS first11:19
hints|ubuntucan the installer do it automaticly?11:19
misieqrekr, then you should reboot, and boot into grub11:19
hints|ubuntudam. i need 3 partitions then :(11:19
anthonyif anyone has time i need help on changing my screen resolution11:19
rekri mean but the BISO detects the IDE drives first11:19
Seveashints|ubuntu, it can11:19
rob^hi, just wondering what the issues are with the backport repositories as found on ubuntuguide.org and the faq (just deciding what to do with them for the official faq)11:19
gm78Seveas, the temps have dropped a degree or too since i took that screenshot, but for the most part it is the same11:19
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hints|ubuntuis that the easyest way?11:19
Seveasrekr, aha, can you set it to detect SATA first?11:19
gm78Seveas, is the link loading properly?11:20
Seveasgm78, some of the voltages are odd...11:20
misieqrekr, if the grub found its config files, you should see 'ubuntu linux (some kernel)' selected11:20
misieqrekr, hit 'e' to edit the command11:20
Seveasgm78, ant the mobo temp looks odd too11:20
hints|ubuntu?11:20
gm78Seveas, yeah, the voltages are weird. whats odd about the mobo temp?11:20
anthonyanyone knows how i can edit the reso11:21
gm78Seveas, what do u think i should do with it? take it someone to be repaired?11:21
anthonyi can't deal with this big screen11:21
Seveas13 degrees is awfully low11:21
misieqrekr, and then you have to change 'root' parameter to proper value.11:21
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Seveasanthony: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:21
jamey3I have a Canon i250 printer. Does anyone know a working driver for Ubuntu (Hoary)?11:21
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AmaranthSeveas: My latest ban should never be removed.11:21
Seveasgm78, I think xsensors is behaving odd :)11:21
SeveasAmaranth, ok11:21
anthonyalright thanks sev11:21
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misieqrekr, it is: if you typed 'root (hd0,2)', then it should be 'root=/dev/hda3'11:22
gm78Seveas, do u think i should reboot the computer and check the actual temp in the bios to see if the thing is even working?11:22
Seveasif your bios has that option, try it11:22
gm78Seveas, to see if xsensors is working i mean11:22
gm78Seveas, alright, ill brb11:22
bigfoot1what's a ubuntu-approved podcast receiver app?11:22
anthonySeveas: is that page down?11:22
misieqrekr, basically it is hd0=/dev/hda; hd1=/dev/hdb (it might be hdc, you have to try)11:22
Seveasanthony, no11:23
misieqrekr, and if your partion was 0, then it would be hdx111:23
Seveasit redirects to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto11:23
anthonySeveas, not working on my side11:23
Seveastry the direct link :)11:23
jamey3I have a Canon i250 printer. Does anyone know a working driver for Ubuntu (Hoary)?11:23
misieqrekr, you simply have to increment the number of partion11:23
wdhjamey3, tried to install it already through cups?11:24
misieqrekr, but watch out, because there might be some /dev/sda as your sata disk11:24
bigfoot1does anybody here know of a good and simple podcast receiving software?11:24
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Iaidokawhat makes podcasts different from ordinary mp3's?11:25
jamey3wdh, no I don't know how to, sorry.11:25
wdhjamey3, is the i250 similar to the bjc250 by any chance?11:25
internatok stupid questoin how do i set up dual monitor support?11:25
IaidokaI listened to the latest Boardgame geek-episode with XMMS, and it claimed to be a "podcast".11:25
wdhinternat, thats not a stupid one i guess :)11:25
misieqrekr, and if you boot to linux, you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file to have your changes remembered11:25
jamey3wdh, I'm not sure... all I've done is go System ->Admin -> Printers and the i250 isn't listed.11:25
internatknow how to do it?11:26
misieqrekr, tell me, what version of windows do you have?11:26
misieqrekr, i mean is it NT?11:26
bigfoot1Iaidoka, podcasts are put on an RSS feed.11:26
hkdevrekr: good luck to you. have to go.11:26
Iaidokaahh11:26
bigfoot1Iaidoka, what is the first character in your nickname? the letter L as in lion, or what+11:26
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Iaidokaso I skipped the actual podcast-step when I got the mp3 directly from the website..11:27
Iaidokabigfoot1:  capital i11:27
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jamey3wdh: When I try to add a printer, there are none detected in the list.11:27
Iaidokabut sorry, then I don't know how to help you11:27
wdhjamey3, usb or parallel?11:27
jamey3USB11:27
jamey3It's plugged into a port right now.11:27
jamey3(And switched on, lol)11:28
misieqrekr, are you there?11:28
rekrim herer11:28
misieqrekr, tell me, what version of windows do you have?11:28
rekrXP11:28
misieqrekr, thats good.11:29
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rekriw as trying to read through the chat to see what i had to do, but you said to go into the GRUB console, how do I get into that if I cant load grub or ubuntu11:29
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wdhjamey3, found a page in explaining how to fix it..11:30
wdhits in german though :P11:30
warrior_Whats up guys.  Quick question, I want to stay with Hoary but I want to compile the 2.6.12 kernel.  Whats the best way to do it?11:30
misieqrekr, if you want to restore your windows bootloader (which may occur after many tries with grub) you have to boot windows from cd, hit 'r' to get into recovery console, logon to windows and type 'fixboot'11:30
wdhhttp://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/556/sid9ef4ff965a87b13eff995ce5ff207005/Problem-mit-Canon-i250.html11:30
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misieqrekr, you don't have grub installed?11:30
jamey3wdh: thanks.11:30
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fxP1hi all. does anyone have experience of making 2 machines talk to each other with minicom?11:30
misieqrekr, try to look around for grub boot floppys11:30
wdhjamey3, try the canon site also.. they seem to have linux-drivers available..11:31
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misieqrekr, once you boot grub hit 'c' and it'll drop you into console11:31
jamey3wdh, they do but I'm having problems compiling them. I'm trying them again now.11:31
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jamey3wdh, I've got lots of errors when running "make". Can you look at them in #flood and tell me what they mean?11:32
wdhjamey3, first try it with the ppd file only.. it might just work :)11:32
jamey3oh okay11:32
rekrthats the problem ubuntu install installs RGUB but it never comes up during boot, I can only get the windows boot menu to come up11:32
rekri can get into windowds i want grub some i can boot into ubuntu11:32
jamey3I tried it with "BJC 250" and I sent a test page to the printer. But there are dozens of "USB Printer #XX" and I don't know which one to choose.11:32
wdhjamey3, try lsusb11:32
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misieqrekr, try to look for grub on ubuntu cd - there hould be a floppy image with rawrite11:33
jamey3wdh, good idea :P11:34
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jamey3wdh: "Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04a9:1084 Canon, Inc." There are sixteen different "USB Printer" selections, which one should I choose now?11:34
warrior_Is it possible to stay with Hoary and go to 2.6.12 kernel? or do I have to dist-upgrade breezy?11:35
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hmrochaHello11:35
hmrochaI'm having trouble installing a printer.11:36
tiglionabbit!quicktime11:36
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?11:36
tiglionabbit!realmedia11:36
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:36
tiglionabbityou guys, I still don't have quicktime or realplayer playing right11:36
hmrochaI have a server called "printers"11:36
jamey3wdh: Any ideas?11:36
hmrochaThat has a printer named "laserc6"11:36
tiglionabbitI looked through the wiki and don't see anything.  Ima raid the forums11:36
jamey3tiglionabbit: have you looked on the Ubuntu Wiki?11:36
jamey3oh lol!11:36
hmrochaHow can i use it in this computer?11:36
tiglionabbitjamey3: I've been hawking the restrictedformats page for weeks, but I still don't know how to play real media or quicktime.  I do not want to install the realplayer11:37
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tiglionabbitquicktime plays fine in mplayer, but nothing else.  I kinda wanted it to work in other things11:37
hmrochaIn the "Add printer" dialog i chose "Network printer CUPS Printer"11:38
jamey3tiglionabbit: Are you sure Totem doesn't support RM files?11:38
gm78Seveas, i PM'd you11:38
hmrochaBut what's the URI?11:38
jamey3hmrocha: Maybe you can help me. I am trying to install a Canon i250 printer; there is no driver and it is not detected as a "local printer".11:38
hmrochajamey3, i don't have a local printer11:38
hmrochaI have never set up a printer on linux11:39
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tiglionabbitjamey3: nope.  "Totem could not play 'file:///home/nick/download/funday.rm'."  "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/nick/download/funday.rm", you might need to install the corresponding plugins"11:39
gm78jamey3, good luck. canon makes crappy printers, their drivers make up for the problems. very few linux drivers are available. (i used to sell them). check linuxprinting.org for the printer, it might tell u a driver u can install in synaptic to make it work11:39
tiglionabbitwanted to watch the funday pawpet show =P11:39
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jamey3tiglionabbit: So search for some codecs.11:39
gm78jamey3, ill quickly look for you11:39
dualBhelphey all11:39
tiglionabbitjamey3: yeah yeah, search search, guess I'll search by description then, but can you tell me which I need?11:40
jamey3gm78: thank you. Aww, my i250 is lovely!11:40
jamey3tiglionabbit: No because I hate RM. :P11:40
jamey3I'll have a look11:40
tiglionabbitjamey3: but I still need to play it, sheesh11:40
hmrochaHow can I detect network printers?11:40
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tiglionabbithmrocha: isn't there an option in system -> prefs -> printers ?11:41
dualBhelpcan anybody help me or enlighent me about this?11:41
dualBhelp#/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda11:41
dualBhelp/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.11:41
tiglionabbitI mean system admin printing11:41
gm78jamey3, their higher end printers are awesome, but their lower end stuff isnt that great. low ink prices is the main motivation for buying one11:41
tiglionabbitthere should be a thing you can check in the menus there, for detecting network printers11:41
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hmrochatiglionabbit, "no printers detected"11:41
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Evilhello everybody11:41
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ogghelo.11:41
EvilI need help please, X doesn't work for me11:41
tiglionabbithmrocha: global settings -> detect LAN printers11:41
jamey3gm78: exactly. 2 a cartridge is great. In the low-end sector, is there anything better?11:42
tiglionabbitEvil: oh no11:42
oggwhich is fastet? fluxbox or iceWM?11:42
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Evilit says /etc/X11/X is not executable11:42
tiglionabbitEvil: did you just install?11:42
Evilwhat should i do ?11:42
pittiEvil: sudo rm /etc/X11/X11:42
hmrochatiglionabbit, still no printers detected11:42
tiglionabbitEvil: have you done anything to mess it up?11:42
tiglionabbithmrocha: well I don't know11:42
pittiEvil: sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg X11:43
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goliatwhats the easyest mail server to start on ubunto for smtp and pop3?11:43
Eviltiglionabbit: just a dist-upgrade11:43
pittiEvil: erm, sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X11:43
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hmrochagoliat, postfix11:43
pittiEvil: I had the same problem, blame daniels :-)11:43
oliwergoliat > postfix to11:43
tiglionabbitpitti: you sure that dir is right?11:43
oliwerznh ?11:43
jeroen_Evil, I had the same problem yesterday11:44
goliatdoes it have a gui ?11:44
tiglionabbitoh sorry, yes it's right11:44
pittitiglionabbit: yes11:44
dualBhelpcan anybody help me or enlighent me about this?11:44
dualBhelp /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.11:44
gm78jamey3, linuxprinting.org doesnt even list the i250, i used to own the i350, its a paperweight in linux. avoid epson and lexmark on the lowend. samsung makes good linux compatable laser printers that are lower price and reliable (thats what i use). hp makes awesome low end printers, but has more expensive ink. brother is a really good brand name too11:44
jeroen_Evil, I solved it by removing all the /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg stuff and replacing it by /usr/bin/Xorg11:44
jeroen_in all the configuration files11:44
oliwergoliat > i don't think so11:44
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slackerim trying to switch linux images11:44
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slackerhow do i do that11:44
hmrochatiglionabbit, the server is running cupsd11:44
gm78jamey3, always, ALWAYS, check linuxprinting.org before buying something though11:44
zeenixhey again11:44
hmrochaI should be able to use ipp://printers11:45
jamey3gm78: Price of ink is more important thank anything else for me. I will check that site from now on, thanks.11:45
dualBhelpdualBhelp: its grubs not installing to the right place11:45
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zeenixi reinstalled ubuntu11:45
sinfernocan someone help me switch linux images11:45
jamey3gm78: Can you help me; I'm trying to compile the i250 (official) drivers but getting make errors.11:45
goliatany docs about it ?11:45
Evilthanks jeroen_  i'll try it11:45
zeenixmaybe, it only works on the first boot :)11:45
oliwerjamey3 > what says ./configure ?11:46
gm78jamey3, canon released official drivers???? *drops dead* ive complained to them numerous times about linux drivers. open a pm with me and give me the link11:46
tiglionabbitslomo: you should be able to find one in synaptic.  Have synaptic install it, then restart your computer and you should be able to select it from grub11:46
tiglionabbitoops, that was for slacker11:46
tiglionabbitwho is gone11:46
tiglionabbitcrap11:46
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tiglionabbitoh, sinferno11:46
gm78jamey3, oh, brother makes an awesome printer too, about mid-range on ink price, less expensive than hps. you have to buy all in ones with them though, or laser printers11:46
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goliatwhen i reload in synaptek i get an error in this link          http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 11:47
tiglionabbit!realplayer11:47
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?11:47
goliathow can i fix that11:47
jamey3gm78: ah I see. I despise MFDs. Laser is overkill for my needs.11:47
jamey3oliwer: it seemed to go fine.11:47
sinfernotiglionabbit, well i am using the 386 one and i looking in modules and nvidia isnt there11:47
jamey3oliwer: But as soon as I run make, there are loads of errors.11:47
tiglionabbiter..11:47
supernixI tried ubuntu and unfortunately the kubuntu worked much better at detecting my printer11:47
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sinfernotiglionabbit, so i downloaded the k7 one, and it has nvidia in modules11:48
oliwerjamey3 > so I cannot help you ^^^am noob11:48
sinfernotiglionabbit, and i have a k7 so i would rather use that one anyways11:48
tiglionabbitsinferno: ok then...11:48
sinfernotiglionabbit, :(11:48
oliwergoliat > just delete the server that doesn't work from the list11:48
sinfernotiglionabbit, is it really hard or something?11:48
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tiglionabbitsinferno: is what?11:48
jamey3oliwer: no problem, join the club. :P11:49
sinfernotiglionabbit, switching images11:49
tiglionabbitsinferno: once you install the kernel image, all you have to do is reboot and select it from grub11:49
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sinfernotiglionabbit, then uninstall the other one?11:49
djpsinferno: if you wish to use an athlon/duron specific kernel just apt-get linux-k711:49
anthonycan someone tell me how i can save a file when i finished editing it under nano?11:49
tiglionabbitsinferno: uh, mebbe.  I just keep it around, if it doesn't uninstall it itself...11:49
sinfernotiglionabbit, ok thanks11:50
tiglionabbitanthony: the commands are all written on the bottom of the window, with ^ denoting "hold control".  I believe it's control-O11:50
oliweranthony > ctrl + o then enter11:50
sinfernodjp, you mean linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 ?11:50
goliatis all what i need is postfix ?11:50
djpi have installed the linux-k7 kernel here as i have an amd/duron processor. after installing the k7 specific kernel, i did not have to do anything with my grub loader. ubuntu just booted using the new kernel.11:50
Arkainiumare cpu fans normally intake or outake?11:50
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sinfernook cool brb11:51
oggwhich window manager is fastest, iceWM or fluxbox11:51
tiglionabbitdjp: yes exactly.  What I mean is selecting that on the menu grub shows you on boot11:51
oggfor ubuntu hoary11:51
oliwerfinland invasion11:51
djpsinferno: choose linux-k7 from synaptic or apt-get etc. it will install any other dependencies anyway.11:51
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nikkiaArkainium: outtake - pull air over the heatsink and push it away11:51
tiglionabbitdjp: he gone11:51
oliwerogg > afterstep11:51
nikkiaArkainium: intake would push hot air over the rest of the chipset, bad idea11:51
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djptiglionabbit: ahh, sure. i don't have a boot loader screen here.11:52
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Arkainiumnikkia, that's what I figured.  that goes for all chipsets, right?  you'd only want intakes coming from outside, correct?11:52
Evilstill have problems11:52
anthonyi pressed ctrl + o but when i open the file in a text editor, it shows the same depth .11:52
nikkiaArkainium: yes11:52
oggafterstep. is it very lightweight?11:52
nikkiaArkainium: even then, you might not want intakes at all11:52
tiglionabbitdjp: oh, when you're not dual booting it doesn't show it?11:52
Arkainiumnikkia, dust?  :P11:52
djptiglionabbit: great isn't it. dishing out some advice and puff... disappear into thin air! ;)11:52
nikkiaArkainium: a PC case is non-airtight, and air will come in naturally to replace the pushed out air11:52
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djptiglionabbit: no11:53
Arkainiumnikkia, ah, thanks for the info.11:53
tiglionabbitdjp: no meaning yes?11:53
nikkiaArkainium: an 'extra' case fan would be intake... but the standard ones should be outtake11:53
djptiglionabbit: :) it doesn't show it when you are not dual booting11:53
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nikkiaArkainium: by 'standard' i mean the PSU fan, really11:53
tiglionabbitdjp: k11:53
djptiglionabbit: now even i'm getting confused! ;)11:53
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nikkiaArkainium: a secondary case fan on the back, or on the front, can be intake or outtake, but outtake is usual for back fans, intake on front11:54
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nikkiaArkainium: basically, look at the case fan location, if it has an air-filter screen, its probably intended to be intake, otherwise, its outtake11:54
Arkainiumnikkia, heh, my PSU's fan actually blows over the fets by the cpu.  *shrug*11:54
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nikkiaArkainium: sounds like a badly designed PSU, to me11:55
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sinfernoholy crap, that fixed all the problems i had11:56
sinfernothanks alot11:56
sinfernoit started my nvidia drivers11:56
sinfernoand whatnot11:56
oliwerogg > afterstep is about 3 megs and runs pretty fast on my laptop11:56
oliwerbut i gess it is not the faster11:56
sinfernoomfffggg11:56
sinfernothanks guys11:56
sinfernoi went from 200 fps in glxgears11:57
sinfernoto 311911:57
sinfernoand i can actually run it11:57
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aCiD2What is the command to create system links?11:57
oliweracide2 > ln11:59
tutatishello11:59
aCiD2thanks oliwer :)11:59
oliwerhi11:59
oliwer:)11:59
tutatisI've been dealing with a newbie problem for 2 days and I thought it was being time to ask for some help here12:00
oliwerlol12:00
tutatisit's related to samba and folder sharing between two ubuntu boxes12:00
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tutatisi've installed samba successfully in both machines12:00
oliwerthat's not a newb problem...12:00
tutatisbut I can't get it to work12:00
oliweryou didn't foind some good tutos with google ?12:01
tutatiswell, quite a lot12:01
tutatisi think tyhe proble is i'm missing something12:01
tutatislet me expose it briefly12:02
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oliwerk12:02
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tutatisi'd like to EASILY shared some folders form one machine to the other12:02
tutatisno user/pwd would be nice12:02
tutatisjust as i use to do in windows12:02
tutatisi installed samba and edited smb.conf in machine 112:03
oliwernice story12:03
tutatisi added a samba user, with the same name than machine 2 user name12:03
internatlol12:03
internatyeah lol i htink that is a story cuas ei havnt managed to get that set up on my debian box rthat ive been playing with for the last year12:04
tutatistried to access it by "Places/Network servers"12:04
tutatisok, i could see both machines there12:04
tutatiswhen doubleclicking one of them, it opened showing the shared floder12:05
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tutatisok, but then when clicking theat folder i got a message saying that resource is anavailable or unexistant12:05
oliwerare you sure that the shared folders are chmoded 77712:05
tutatisnope12:05
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tutatisbut anyway, that was yesterday12:06
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tutatistoday i can't even see eachothe in Network servers12:06
oliwerhmmm... samba sucks anyway12:06
tutatisok, if samba sucks12:06
tutatishow should i do it?12:06
aCiD2When I try and do "ln ~/Projects/ proj" I get the message: "ln: `/home/acid2/Projects/': hard link not allowed for directory"12:06
aCiD2What does that mean, and what should I do instead?12:06
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oliweryou should ask a competent person...12:06
tutatisoliwer is that for me?12:07
oliwerthis channel is full of n00bs12:07
oliweryep12:07
tutatismm, i thought it was a ubuntu help channel12:07
aCiD2tutatis, try the forums?12:07
aCiD2Lots of helpful people there :)12:07
oliweror try the evening12:07
aCiD2Anywho, any ideas on my link question?12:08
oliwerthere are more geeks around 21h12:08
tutatisshouldn't i ask this kind of questions here?12:08
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oliweryes u should12:08
internatanyone know how to set up dual monitor support?12:08
tutatiswouldn't like to bother, but the channel's topic lead me here12:08
maradonginternat, check out xinerama12:08
oliwertutatis tu es franais ?12:09
tutatisno, I'm spanish12:09
oliwergay... with such a french name...12:09
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tutatislol, tutatis is a name asterix used to invoke12:09
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oliwerye :)12:10
aCiD2internat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo12:10
tutatis;)12:10
gismo_ok12:10
tutatiswell, i'll come later then12:10
samuelki have a question...in Kynaptic i gett a a msg then press the "upgrade all packages" it is saying: "Operation not possible with broken packages please fix them first"...12:10
tutatisthis thing is driving me crazy12:10
oliwero god ! u remind me that i must go in spain next mounth and i still suck in spanish12:10
samuelki go up in the menu file >Fix all broken packages12:11
notossamuel fix them use the fix broken duh ;)12:11
oliwerlinux made a lot of creazy men12:11
samuelkand it whant to remove kdmtheme but i sure dont whant to..12:11
tutatisyep :)12:11
samuelkand it is not broken...12:11
tutatiswell, c'ya later then12:11
tutatisthanks12:11
oliwercya12:11
samuelkany ideaS?12:11
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oliwersamuelk > did you add a lot of servers in list.conf ?12:13
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samuelkdunno12:13
tiglionabbityou guys, do I really want to have gstreamer0.8-plugins installed?12:13
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notostype in a termial sudo apt-get -f install12:13
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panji_5j/jakarta12:14
notoscheck yor sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)12:14
samuelknotos you mean me?12:14
tiglionabbitI'm asking if I should, not how to12:14
oliwersamuelk > well maybe u should make a fresh sources.list12:14
tiglionabbit!repositories12:14
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:14
notossi12:14
notosi mean yes12:15
notos:P12:15
samuelkoliwer i have just enable universe12:15
oliwerstrange12:15
unomeanyone knows how to find out the ubuntu release 'codemane' installed, like if it's hoary or breezy?12:15
jeroen_unome, system -> about ubuntu12:15
djptiglionabbit: not if you want to stick with gnu/fsf prinicpals12:15
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oliwerbah... install synaptic :p12:16
tiglionabbitdjp: well I just installed it.  And I'm kicking myself.  So many dependencies I've gotta remove now if I want it gone12:16
tiglionabbitdjp: is there a quicker way to get rid of everything from a metapackage?12:16
djptiglionabbit: i don't use the plugins as i only use ogg/theora vorbis formats12:16
jeroen_unome, probably Warty then12:16
samuelkare there no way to gett it to understand i dont whant to remove kdmtheme12:16
Seveasunome, cat /etc/issue12:16
unomejeroen_: I dont use gnome12:16
samuelkwhat ever i install or remove it whant to remove kdmtheme12:16
unomeSeveas!! thanks mate12:17
jeroen_unome, aha12:17
oliwerwait a sec12:17
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djptiglionabbit: well, if i wanted as many formats, both restriced and un-restricted working i would install the metapackage plugins12:17
djptiglionabbit: you will also need to install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin if you want to watch divx files12:18
unomeI knew in debian it was /etc/debian_version ... now I should remember /etc/issue =)12:18
djptiglionabbit: you may also need to make changes under Multimedia Systems Selector with regards audio in order to prevent jerky playback in totem12:19
tiglionabbitdjp: is there any way to play quicktime or realmedia without real player?  I'm still not getting this12:19
internatok well lets see if i just broke xorg.conf12:19
djptiglionabbit: quicktime files will playback if you install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin12:19
oliwersamuelk > funny ! i dont see anything that looks like kdetheme on my box...12:19
samuelkkdmtheme12:20
tiglionabbitdjp: I have that, but totem will not play quicktime, vlc plays it without sound, and mplayer plays it right12:20
djptiglionabbit: with regards realmedia, i am not sure.12:20
oliwerooops12:20
samuelkheh12:20
tiglionabbitdjp: what video settings should I put in multimedia systems selector?12:20
djptiglionabbit: i know that .mov files will playback under totem-gstreamer with the ffmpeg plugin installed12:20
tiglionabbitzomg, "Ascii Art X11".  Is this real!?12:20
tiglionabbit... I just selected it, hit test, and multimedia selector went poof gone12:21
djptiglionabbit: change default audio sink to ALSA12:21
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oliwersamuelk > same for kdmtheme12:21
tiglionabbityeah yeah got alsa selected already.  What about video?12:21
djptiglionabbit: ESD caused syncing issues with video and audio for me12:21
tiglionabbitxv?12:21
samuelkwell ist an addon for kde so you can change kdm theme12:21
samuelkeasyer12:21
djptiglionabbit: leave default12:21
oliwersamuelk > try to uninstall it ;) just for fun :p12:22
djptiglionabbit: should be xwindows12:22
tiglionabbitdjp: so what's with the quicktime stuff though12:22
djptiglionabbit: hold on...12:22
oliwera thememanager...12:22
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samuelknod12:22
Scroopyhello people12:23
samuelkany ideas?12:23
Scroopyda noob has returneth12:23
samuelkheh12:23
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Scroopywhat is da short cut key for terminal?12:24
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hhurttaoh. mighty noob12:24
tiglionabbitdjp: I can play the QT dance music video from slashdot in gmplayer, and the nintendo trailers too.  The QT one crashes vlc though, and the nintendo trailers play without sound in it.  None of em play in Totem12:24
Scroopyoh, u have NO idea how nooby12:24
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djptiglionabbit: i have only ever played back .mov files that i was sent by my brother in the past. all worked fine with sound under totem.12:25
tiglionabbitdjp: well go to slashdot and get the QT music video then, and watch vlc crash12:26
djptiglionabbit: it does appear from what i have read on the forums that many people recommend using mplayer with quicktime however12:26
tiglionabbitoo, vlc prints out "Floating point exception" when it crashes12:27
tiglionabbitfun times12:27
djptiglionabbit: not used vlc myself12:28
znheeh.. I just updated my kernel to -k7, I try to start my X server but it says 'module Nvidia not found'12:28
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znhIt worked fine with my -386 kernel12:29
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znhDo I have to reinstall my nvidia drivers for this kernel?12:29
tiglionabbitdjp: what totem does is... it pretends to start playing something but with no sound or video.  The little progress bar thingy moves at first very fast but slows down exponentially, then turns grey and stops, indicating 4 minutes 23 seconds out of 6:something...   then a little while later it jumps to the end and says it's done12:29
djptiglionabbit: and gstreamer-plugins metapackage and gstreamer-ffmpeg are both installed right?12:30
klaymis there some other web browser than firefox that I could get from ubuntu's repositories?12:30
tiglionabbitsorry I mean 4:19 out of 4:3312:30
tiglionabbitdjp: yes12:30
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znhklaym: links, lynx12:31
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djptiglionabbit: only thing i can suggest is use the player that works to view that/those file/s (i believe you said mplayer worked).12:32
znhattention please.. in a big trouble here..12:32
tiglionabbitdjp: yeah.  Dude go download the music video and watch stuff screw up on it.  I dare you.  =P  Anyway, I was hoping to avoid having to download a realplayer though...12:32
djptiglionabbit: i would recommend avoiding the formats that are restrictive12:33
klaymznh: thanks12:34
tiglionabbitdjp: but dude, it's QT.  Um...12:34
tiglionabbitdjp: I didn't make the video, but I still want to watch it12:34
Seveasklaym, epiphany12:34
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tiglionabbitdjp: some people only distribute certain formats...12:34
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znhIs this a known bug? that the nvidia drivers don't work with the k7 kernel?12:34
Seveasznh, no12:35
znhSeveas: then why doesn't it work for me :/12:35
Seveaswhich kernel (uname -r)?12:35
znh2.6.11-1-k712:35
Seveasah, that is known12:35
Seveas2.6.11 is unsupported and known to be buggy12:35
Seveasuse 2.6.10 in hoary12:35
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znhokay12:35
djptiglionabbit: i know. i normally drop them an email and ask them to provide a free alternative. ;)12:36
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tiglionabbitdjp: hmm...   good idea, but some people use rm just because it's the lightest file format around12:36
tiglionabbitallows the most compression12:36
tiglionabbitregardless of how awful it makes things look12:37
djptiglionabbit: theora is very good.12:37
aCiD2"http://diva.enove.pl/wp-content/diva_screenshot_01.png" Does anyone know what the little face is in the notification tray is?12:37
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djptiglionabbit: i realise though that this does not help you in your situation. hold on, let me check something uot...12:38
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tiglionabbitdjp: awesome, xine crashes on the qt video too12:38
SeveasaCiD2, that's tintin :)12:38
aCiD2Thats what the program is called as well?12:38
aCiD2I know the character :P12:39
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aCiD2ahhhh, its tomboy12:40
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wrinkolsanyone feel like helping me out with fstab?12:41
klaymwhere does epiphany go after installation? what's the command for running it in console? :P12:41
tiglionabbitklaym: dpkg -L the package name to find out where things were put12:42
tiglionabbit!cli12:42
ubotuI haven't a clue, tiglionabbit12:42
tiglionabbit!gui12:42
klaymok12:42
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ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?12:42
tiglionabbitdarn, ubotu doesn't know those12:42
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Seveaswrinkols, mounting windows drives?12:42
wrinkolsyeah12:42
wrinkolsI had it working earlier12:43
Seveaswrinkols: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically12:43
Seveasrun that little script once12:43
doivehey any printing wizes here?12:43
wrinkolssorry i'm really new12:43
wrinkolshow do i run the script?12:43
wrinkolslol12:43
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doive5.04 has broken my printing12:44
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Adrenohey12:44
hhurttawrinkols: open terminal, cd to scriptfile, chmod u+x <file>, and finally ./<skriptfile>12:44
hhurttaprobably as root12:45
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wrinkolsalright i'm going to try it now12:45
Adrenoim having trouble with something and was wondering if anyone could help12:45
tiglionabbitwow, xine does a horrible job of playing these quicktime files too12:45
znhSeveas: I'm still getting the same error12:45
doiveanyone else here had trouble with usb printers?12:45
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Seveaswrinkols, sudo bash winmac_fstab12:46
klaymSeveas: LOL!12:46
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Seveasznh, what is the error?12:46
AdrenoIm trying to install dosbox on ubuntu linux, but i cant seem to find the right file, or how to install anything in general12:46
doiveunome you too? how did you fix it?12:47
unomedoive: found a driver :D12:47
doiveunome my driver is fine12:47
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znhSeveas: that he can't load the nvidia module, (it's not even in the /lib/modules/2.6.10-k7/kernel/drivers/video folder12:47
doiveit's a brother hl-1430 there are already drivers for it in cups12:47
Seveasznh, install the linux-k7 metapackage12:48
doiveit worked in warty12:48
Adrenoanyone know where to get dos box for ubuntu?12:48
znhSeveas: ?12:48
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Seveasyou need the restrcited-modules package12:48
znhah :)12:48
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znhthen i've gto reboot?12:49
tiglionabbitAdreno: it should be in the basic repositories12:49
unomeAdreno: apt-cache search dosbox ...says: dosbox - A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS12:49
tiglionabbitAdreno: it's in universe12:50
unomeapt-get into it :)12:50
action09apt-get moo12:50
unome:p12:50
action09:] 12:50
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tiglionabbitzomg12:50
Adrenocool. ok im new to linux. Windows crashed and i decided to replace. difficult.12:50
tiglionabbitthey actually built that into apt-get?12:50
klaymwhat's this galeon web browser thing? is it good?12:51
tiglionabbitthat's not in the manual12:51
Adrenoi write commands in the root terminal correct?12:51
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tiglionabbitAdreno: yes, you need root permissions to use apt-get12:51
wrinkolsI ran it.. it still tells me that the 'special device' does not exist12:51
tiglionabbitAdreno: you could use synaptic though, for the same purposes.  It's gui12:51
Adrenoyeah, i have a password for it.12:51
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notosjoin #ubuntu-es12:52
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tiglionabbitwhy is this moo thing in apt-get?  are there any other weird things they put in it?12:52
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wrinkolsim curious - has anybody set up a raid0 on ubuntu12:53
znhSeveas: yaay thanks works now :)12:53
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Adrenosynaptic and gui are unfarmiliar words tto me as of yet. ive had linux for 5 days. heh i mean ive seen them but dont know what meaning they hold.12:53
unomeTry aptitude -v moo12:53
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unomeand .. aptitude -v -v moo12:53
thenukeAdreno: gui is Graphical user interface. nothing linux spesific12:53
HostingGeekPATENT REJECTED!!!!12:54
thenukeAdreno: synaptic is software. softwares you found from the top menus12:54
HostingGeekWOOHOO!!!12:54
wrinkolsI'm not sure what's wrong12:55
desplesdaHostingGeek: huh?12:55
sam_Any idea why I can't open .torrent files in azureus by just double-clicking them?12:55
HostingGeekSoftware Patent in europe got rejected!!!12:55
desplesda:o12:55
Adrenonice. makes sence.12:55
tiglionabbitrofl12:55
tiglionabbitaptitude12:55
tiglionabbitmore -v s12:56
unomethat should be topic I guess (jes kidding)12:56
tiglionabbitwhy did they do that?12:56
wrinkolsbecause you don't visit the asiandvdclub12:56
Adrenosynaptic is an application found in the applications menu at the top of the gui correct?12:56
sam_I tried right-clicking and picking open in Azureus. But they are still recognied as gnome-bt files.12:56
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sam_I can only add them to azureus by dragdropping the files into the program.12:56
=== otep anyone here who uses a snap server?
JimbobHostingGeek: Do you have a URL for that or no?12:57
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wrinkolsdoesn't azureus make itself the default on startup?12:58
wrinkolsor is that only in win12:58
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sam_wrinkols, apparently it didnt12:58
wrinkolsyeah that's tru12:58
sam_but even if i right-click and then pick open in azureus, nothing seems to happen12:58
HostingGeekJimbob: Liston to the live stream12:58
HostingGeek"The assembly voted by 648 to 14 with 18 abstentions to reject the law"12:58
Adrenook i found a synapic package manager,upgrading.12:58
wrinkolsstrange... the last few releases have been buggy12:58
wrinkolsmaybe that's why12:59
JimbobWhat live stream?12:59
HostingGeekJimbob: the12:59
Adrenoim sorry for noobing12:59
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wrinkolsadreno ... i don't think anybody is as noob as I12:59
Adrenohehe12:59
Adrenoare you new to liinux?12:59
wrinkolsi woke up this morning and was like.. "i'm going to dump my windows setup and try to figure out linux"01:00
wrinkolsyep01:00
Scroopyi dunno01:00
Scroopyid give u a run for ur money01:00
JimbobHostingGeek: Like there's only one?01:00
Scroopyi have had in total 2 hrs of linux exp01:00
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Scroopyand 1 of those i was ready to get a hammer01:00
wrinkolshaha, yeah i thought about that today01:00
HostingGeekJimbob: ya01:01
Scroopyi also thought about windows 2k or ewven XP again01:01
HostingGeekJimbob: reload slashdot01:01
HostingGeekit will be there soon01:01
wrinkolsi like it, but now i'm going to have to find all my programs again01:01
AdrenoMy ol windows xp had itself a virus and deleted the program needed to start windows. replaced the damn os01:01
Scroopylol01:01
wrinkolsi did go back, this morning I installed ubuntu, about lunchtime started installing xp64, then changed my mind again and here I am01:02
NyChamp757i just installed ubuntu01:02
sam_I would recommend people to get a separate hard drive for starting out with linux and dual-booting.01:02
NyChamp757a mear hour ago01:02
HostingGeekhttp://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8B5RBI00.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down01:03
HostingGeekJimbob: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8B5RBI00.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down01:03
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ChorisHey01:03
Adrenohi01:03
wrinkolsyeah, i was thinking about that.  i have a spare.  well now i don't.  i set up two hard drives for the system.. 1 with swap and root, and one with home01:03
Chorisi have problems with ubuntu01:03
NyChamp757anyone know where i can get the plugin for mp3's for the totem player01:03
NyChamp757so i can listen to my music ?01:04
Chorisit doesn't have fb0 device, how can i get it?01:04
SeveasNyChamp757, you need gstreamer0.8-mad01:04
SeveasNyChamp757: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:04
NyChamp757Alright thanks01:04
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Adrenohow would i find a specific file ( like dosbox ) with the synaptic file manager?01:05
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HostingGeekhttp://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8B5RBI00.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down01:05
HostingGeekmdz: hey01:05
wrinkolsis there any reason why if i plug in another sata drive my system wont boot?01:05
HostingGeekmdz: long time no see01:05
mdzHostingGeek: good morning01:05
HostingGeekmdz: now you ring a very big bell in my head01:05
Chorissomeone knows how to get a FrameBuffer device installed?01:05
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HostingGeekmdz: I know I will remeber you01:06
HostingGeekmdz: you are a devel?01:06
mdzyes01:06
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bpucciodeveloper and then some01:06
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bpucciomdz: I've seen you posting on debian lists, ubuntu lists, in general, all over the place, don't know how you do it all01:07
wrinkolsthank you for the help, i'm going to sleep and then retry in the morning01:07
SeveasHostingGeek, mdz is the CTO of Ubuntu :)01:07
Adrenohow would i find a specific file ( like dosbox ) with the synaptic file manager?01:07
mdzbpuccio: I type fast ;-)01:07
HostingGeekmdz: I remember you!!!!!01:07
SeveasAdreno, use the search function :)01:07
Adrenogood luck wrinklos01:07
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HostingGeekmdz: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8B5RBI00.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down01:07
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wrinkolsthank you... you also01:07
wrinkolsbye bye01:07
Adrenothat easy?01:07
Snakesis there a novell for ubuntu01:08
SeveasAdreno, it is in Universe, so you need universe enabled01:08
Adrenouniverse is enabled in the synaptic file manager munu right?01:08
Adrenomenu01:08
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Adrenoyou guys are really helping i appreciae that. just bear with the dumb Q's01:09
Chorisnoone knows how to create framebuffer device?01:09
SeveasAdreno: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:10
SeveasAdreno: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:10
SeveasChoris, why do you need one..?01:10
Adreno:-\01:10
sam_is there no "previous folder" or "up" button in the file browser except for pressing alt+up?01:10
Chorisfor a 3d game01:10
Chorisi can't run it because it misses fb001:11
HrdwrBoBbksp01:11
HrdwrBoBgoes up01:11
SeveasChoris, try: mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 001:11
Chorisdone01:11
jtan325__what's the directory that X starts in, for ubuntu?01:11
Chorisbut that didn't help01:11
Adrenoa repository is like a safe box right where files are stored? i just dont know where i type in paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:12
SeveasChoris, now retrt, if it doesn't work: modprobe vesafb01:12
jtan325__and also, how come .xsession doesn't seem to get loaded on startup?01:12
nightswimAdreno: /etc/apt/sources.list01:12
Adrenoim guessing we are talking about the SPM01:12
SeveasAdreno, the easy way of enabling universe is in SPM01:13
Chorisretrt: command not found01:13
Chorisbut done the modprobe01:13
sam_Ah, there was another browser thing as well. Why is the crap file browser enabled by deafult?01:13
SeveasAdreno, go to settings -> repositories01:13
hkde1has anyone using another file manager in place of nautilus? any recommendation?01:13
Adrenook hold on i got dosbox installed now. it was simple.01:14
Seveasand make sure 'community maintained (universe)' is enabled01:14
Seveashehe ok :)01:14
Adrenosweet01:14
Adrenohey thanks man.01:14
Seveashkde1, I use mc extensively :)01:14
hkde1mc is good :)01:14
hkde1but are u able to replace nautilus at all? it seems nautilus is taking up quite a fair bit of RAM. correct if i'm wrong01:15
Choristhere is /dev/fb0-file, but if i try to cat /dev/fb0, it says no such device01:15
Seveashkde1, don't mix up shared mem and exclusive mem in your head :)01:15
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HostingGeekmdz: how are you?01:16
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HostingGeekmdz: Can we talk?01:16
dockaneError trying to open /dev/hdd exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. <-- output from 'sudo cdrecord blank=all dev=/dev/hdd'. any ideas ?01:16
mdzHostingGeek: I am well, but I have a lot of work to do right now.  anything in particular?01:16
thoreauputicbreak out the champagne! The Software Patents Directive has been defeated in the EU parliament !01:17
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jtan325__when i put commands in my .xsessions, they don't seem to get executed01:18
jtan325__is that not where i should put them?01:18
thoreauputichttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/06/eu_bins_swpat/01:18
Adrenoone q. where did the file get installed to,,01:18
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bimberiAdreno: Do you mean a file downloaded by synaptic?01:19
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nikkiathoreauputic: 'for now'01:19
Chorisnoone knows how to fix my problem? =/01:19
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nikkiathoreauputic: or do you honestly believe MS will stop backing the attempts after just a dozen or so goes?01:19
Adrenoyeah01:20
Adrenobimberi: yeah01:20
bimberiAdreno: Synaptic downloads its DEB files to /var/cache/apt/archives01:20
Adrenothanks01:20
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thoreauputicnikkia: of course MS will keep at it - but it's still an important victory in the ongoing battle01:21
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notosYeah!!! i created my first deb package !!!01:22
notosyay to me :)01:22
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bimberiChoris: I don't know much about your problem but when Seveas said "retrt" earlier I think he mean to restart X.01:22
Chorisoops =P01:22
jtan325__where do you put stuff that you want to start with your xsession?01:23
Adrenothats wierd01:23
Adrenoit wasnt there01:23
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Adrenobimberi: i searched for dosbox with the spm but when i looked in the folder you specified there was nothing there..01:24
Adrenoi installed it as well.01:24
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Chorisrestarted x... no help01:25
thoreauputicjtan325__: ~/.xsession is the "default" session - it will only be read if you choose that session in gdm: it doesn't apply if you choose, say, gnome01:25
bimberiAdreno: Is it there now (after installing)01:26
thoreauputicit would be read if you were using "startx' from a tty as well01:26
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DrecoHi All, question please, I am busy working with SAMBA shares, have followed the smbpasswd username -a to add a new smb user, the user can log from a windows machine with the correct credentials, but he is not limited to his own folder, but to all shares in different home folders.01:26
Adrenono i cant find it. wierd01:26
DrecoHow do I limit that user to his own shared home folder01:27
sam_Can somebody recommend a text editor for writing simple C learning apps. It should support syntax highlighting and have functionality implemented through menus and toolbars rather than obscure keyboard commands.01:27
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bimberiAdreno: 'tis wierd.  Hang on I'll try installing dosbox myself01:27
jtan325__thoreauputic, so where should i put something if i want it to start with X?01:28
thoreauputicsam_: scite, or nedit01:28
NyChamp757anyone know how i can open .bin files01:28
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Adrenobimberi: it could be because it think im trying to upgrade the entire system and not just dos box01:28
NermalNyChamp757, I imagine they are binary01:29
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thoreauputicjtan325__: normally you can save a session with the app runing, and it will start when gnome starts01:29
Nermalwhat does file <filename> say ?01:29
thoreauputic*running01:29
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bcc|graveNyChamp757, you can make it executable by: chmod +x bla.bin and then run it by ./bla.bin01:29
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NyChamp757i downloaded realplayer for linux and it came in a .bin01:29
bcc|graveif it isn't an image ;)01:29
jtan325__thoreauputic, actually, i'm using fluxbox01:29
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jtan325__thoreauputic, or else i'd do it the easy way :-)01:29
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jtan325__basically i want X's "terminal" to source my .bashrc when i login01:30
thoreauputicjtan325__: ah, in that case you need to consult the docs at http://fluxbox.org01:30
bimberiAdreno: Yep - got the files after installing via synaptic.  Not sure what's going on.01:30
bartekpxorg in breezy is broken?01:30
DrecoHi All, question please, I am busy working with SAMBA shares, have followed the smbpasswd username -a to add a new smb user, the user can log from a windows machine with the correct credentials, but he is not limited to his own folder, but to all shares in different home folders.01:30
jtan325__thoreauputic, yeah, but it says to put stuff in .xsession or .xinitrc01:30
jtan325__ok technically, i can put stuff in fluxbox's "startup file"01:31
jtan325__but that doesn't work01:31
thoreauputicjtan325__: it's quite possible to run fluxbox from ~/.xsession, but I think it would be easier to edit your startfluxbox script01:31
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sam_thoreauputic, thanks, ill try them out01:32
jtan325__thoreauputic, you might be right. what i'm really trying to do is have X "source" my .bashrc when i login to fluxbox01:32
thoreauputicjtan325__: you can find it by typing `whereis startfluxbox` or `which startfluxbox` - it's a bash script that starts the wm01:32
jtan325__would editing startfluxbox do that?01:33
Adrenobimberi: u also found a file called dosbox right?01:33
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thoreauputicjtan325__: what are you trying to start?01:33
DrecoPleez heeelp meee :)01:33
jtan325__thoreauputic, the real goal is to add a menu item to fluxbox that does an scp to a server via RSA01:34
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jtan325__i have the RSA all set up, with keychain and stuff01:34
bimberiAdreno: dosbox_0.63-2_i386.deb01:34
jtan325__and it works beautifully, i.e. if i opened up a terminal and did the scp manually01:34
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thoreauputicjtan325__: you need to edit the menu then - it's quite easy01:34
jtan325__right01:34
jtan325__i did that01:34
jtan325__but then openssh pops up01:34
jtan325__asking for passcode/password01:35
NermalDreco, chmod 750 the home dirs ?01:35
jtan325__that shouldn't happen, it doesn't happen in the terminal01:35
jtan325__(because of keychain)01:35
Seveasjtan325__, use ssh-add01:35
thoreauputicjtan325__: this is more of an ssh configuration issue, i think01:35
bimberiAdreno: The dosbox executable itself is at /usr/bin/dosbox01:36
thoreauputicjtan325__: as seveas says01:36
Adrenoahhhh01:36
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jtan325__Seveas, thoreauputic: keychain is the "better" version of ssh-add01:36
bimberiAdreno: Sry if I misunderstood01:36
thoreauputicjtan325__: uh... ??01:36
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Adrenosorry for not explaining correctly. im pretty new at linux01:37
jtan325__it works on the system, so you don't have to do ssh-add for every terminal you open, and you don't have multiple ssh-add's lying around01:37
DrecoNermal, please explain.01:37
jtan325__ok, it's not ssh-add, it's a frontend for it01:37
bimberiAdreno: np whatsoever.  Hope you're enjoying it :).01:37
Nermalchmod 750 /home/*01:37
Nermallearn unix permissions :P01:38
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DrecoNermal, must I log in and do it as each user or sudo ?01:38
thoreauputicjtan325__: I just use public keys ( ssh_keygen -t dsa ) and copy the relevant keys to authorized_keys2 in ~/.ssh on each machine - no password will be required once configured01:38
Nermaljust do that once with sudo01:38
DrecoHey i'm learning, one thing at a time :)01:38
Drecok thanks lemme try01:38
Nermalactually01:38
jtan325__thoreauputic, that's exactly what i have01:38
Nermalit would need to be 700 really01:38
jtan325__i can do all of that if i open up a terminal01:38
jtan325__and that's great01:39
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jtan325__but if i do this from a fluxbox menu item01:39
jtan325__it requires a password01:39
Adrenobimberi: hmm nothing there either. i checked off the box in the Synaptic, clicked apply and chose install. that should do it right?01:39
jtan325__am i making any sense at all01:40
thoreauputicjtan325__: I might have missed something here, but i think you have 2 ways to do ssh here: GUI via for example nautilus (which works fine for me) or executing the command in a terminal01:40
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thoreauputicjtan325__: are you saying a command like " xterm -e ssh your.target.box " won't work ?01:41
Drecodamn nermal left, do I have to chmod every time I add a new user account ? anyone01:42
Drecochmod worked btw01:42
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jtan325__it doesn't work because it doesn't get the chance to source my .bashrc, which does the ssh-add and stuff01:42
thoreauputicjtan325__: I can even make fluxbox menu items for X apps and run them remotely over ssh01:42
nikkiathoreauputic: what i think you're missing, is the concept of running the entire desktop as a ssh-agent subtask, with SSH_ASKPASS pointing to a GUI program01:43
jtan325__....01:43
thoreauputicso I still think there's a config issue here01:43
bimberiAdreno: It should.  What type of icon does SPM have against dosbox now?01:43
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thoreauputicnikkia: well, please enlighten jtan325__  :) I only know what I use here with success01:44
samuelkwell iam off to windows :/01:44
jtan325__ok when i make a menu item for fluxbox01:44
jtan325__my first try was "{scp ~/mymusic.m3u attu.cs.washington.edu:}"01:45
jtan325__as the comand to execut01:45
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nikkiajtan, what you want done, is the entire desktop running under ssh-agent01:45
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nikkiajtan, which is how ubuntu and kubuntu run gnome and kde respectively01:46
jtan325__exactly01:46
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nikkiahowever, they won't be doing that for fluxbox, you'll need to set it up manually01:46
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jtan325__that's ok... do you know where to start?01:46
jtan325__or what files i should peek into01:46
nikkiakubuntu, for example, loads kde with: /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde01:46
Adrenobimberi: one sec. something different happened now. it seems to be upgrading as a terminal has opened. its been doing some unpacking and instaling. i think its completely upgrading01:47
Adrenothere done01:47
nikkiajtan, at a guess, you need to find the config files for your login manager, whether its gdm, kdm or xdm01:47
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jtan325__hmmm interesting...."/usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session startfluxbox" is curretly running01:48
Adrenobimberi: i think i might have it now. brb01:48
nikkiajtan, then it looks like it should work01:48
thoreauputicjtan325__: but surely you can scp by making an xterm run your command? Like ' xterm -e mywrapperscript-for-scp ' ?01:48
jtan325__but it doesn't01:49
jtan325__and i could write a wrapper script, sure01:49
jtan325__but that's not really how this should work01:49
jtan325__because in that wrapper script i would have to do ssh-add right?01:49
jtan325__and then ssh-agent01:49
Adrenobimberi: ok now its marked as green. but i couldnt find it in the archives folder in the var dir.01:50
nikkiajtan, erm, no01:50
jtan325__sorry, i don't mean to sound/be difficult, thoreauputic, nikkia01:50
nikkiajtan, you could just set SSH_ASKPASS...01:50
bimberiAdreno: is there anything in there?01:50
jtan325__what is SSH_ASKPASS?01:50
nikkiajtan, just out of curiousity, can you echo $SSH_AGENT_PID in a xterm ?01:50
Adrenobimberi: yeah a folder called partial and something called lock.01:51
thoreauputicjtan325__: I have never had to explicitly use ssh-add etc - i just have my keys on each box and it works transparently: I guess either I'm missing something obvious, or my needs are different01:51
jtan325__nonexistant01:51
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nikkiajtan, its a path, it points to a program that should be used to ask for a password, it allows you to use a GUI program to prompt for passwords/pass-phrases instead of the console method that ssh normally uses01:51
jtan325__ok01:51
jtan325__ideally, i don't want to be asked for anything at all01:52
bimberiAdreno: Strange.  Here's a couple of commands to try...01:52
magogi know this is totally unsupported, but is it a know bug that breezy wont recognize an external harddrive?01:52
zukalkis there a command to add text (e.g. 1 or 2 lines) to an existing text file, instead of just overwriting it?01:52
nikkiajtan, you're not doing anything silly like starting xterm as a 'login shell' are you ?01:52
bimberiAdreno: "sudo updatedb" - should take a while to finish01:52
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thoreauputiczukalk:  echo "foo" >> yourfile.txt01:52
jtan325__hmmm ok i use aterm01:52
thoreauputicnote the double >>01:52
bimberiAdreno: "locate dosbox" - should (hopefully) find some files01:53
jtan325__ok01:53
jtan325__tell me what to try...01:53
jtan325__i will use xterm01:53
jtan325__but i don't know its parameters01:53
nikkiajtan, just start a plain xterm, with no parameters, and see if SSH_AGENT_PID is set01:53
magogdo you guys know if my drive problem is a known bug? if not ide like to report it01:54
thoreauputicjtan325__: I use aterm as well - the syntax is the same: aterm -e "what-you-want-to-execute"01:54
jtan325__nikkia, SSH_AGENT_PID is set when i start a plain terminal01:54
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jtan325__because starting a plain terminal sources my .bashrc01:54
nikkiajtan, ok, then it looks like your terminals are set to start with the equivalent of -ls01:54
nikkiawhich is nobbling the ssh-agent parameters01:55
nikkiajtan, you really really don't want a ssh-agent in .bashrc01:55
nikkialet the desktop's ssh-agent process handle everything01:55
Adrenobimberi: sudo updatedb didint turn up in the search. i tried it in the root command as well but nothing turned up...01:55
jtan325__hold on. thoreauputic, when i do "aterm -e scp.... ", it still prompts for passcode, but in a console way01:56
nikkiajtan, also, i wager you're using "eval `ssh-agent`" or something to mimic your shell being wrapped by ssh-agent, and that is REALLY bad, as when the shell vanishes, it leaves a ssh-agent process lingering, and you get one per shell/window :)01:56
bimberiAdreno: No that command just updates a database - and has no output.01:56
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jtan325__nikkia, that is the whole point of keychain01:56
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jtan325__keychain ensures that at most one ssh-agent is running01:57
bimberiAdreno: Having run it, "locate dosbox" might give some results01:57
Adrenobimberi: just a few sec ago i completed a smart update through the synaptic i think it was taked care of then. but its still a mystery why the files dont show in the archives dir.01:57
cyphasehey everyone01:57
Adrenohi01:57
Adrenobimberi: got it!01:58
jtan325__ok nikkia, thoreauputic, i am making no sense01:58
jtan325__let me back up and make sure i have my vocabulary right01:58
thoreauputicjtan325__: this might help you, it's basically what I used http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~mbonati/WIRC/manual/DATARED/setting_up_no-password_ssh.html although not that precise howto01:58
Adrenobimberi: ok found the executable. done deal. thanks alot bro01:58
bimberiAdreno: Great.  Can I ask where?01:59
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jtan325__when does my .bash_profile get executed/sourced?02:00
jtan325__maybe i have this all wrong02:00
Sionidehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/Riot999/paris2012.jpg02:00
Adrenobimberi: where u said. usr/bin but it appeared after the ubuntu OS upgraded itself. i guess the initial install didnt occur before that was done. It also bugged out so i had to restart the process. old computer..02:00
Sionidelondon got the 2012 olympics02:00
jtan325__thoreauputic, i followed those instructions word for word when i did it too02:00
rekaSionide: wow, wasn't paris the favourite?02:01
bimberiAdreno: Ahh OK. :)02:01
thoreauputicjtan325__: hmm - I didn't have to touch my .bashrc or .bash_profile at all02:01
Sionidedunno02:01
Sionideperhaps02:01
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Sionidebut we rock :P woo!02:01
bimberiWow. London!02:01
Granvillehello??02:01
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Adrenobimberi: Do you know how to install the windows media plugin for streaming vids on blog pages?02:01
Granvillewhen I download the isio for ubuntu do I just burn it???02:02
Adrenobimberi: that is a clone for linux02:02
Sionideyeah Granville02:02
rekaSionide: you're going down in the ashes though ;)02:02
GranvilleI have burnt the iso and my laptop fails to boot from it02:02
bimberiAdreno: No sorry.  One for the room I think.02:02
Sionidereka, lol :D02:02
SionideGranville, try burning at slower speeds02:02
Sionidethe burn is very very sensitive to mistkaes02:02
Adrenobimberi: the room?02:03
Sionidemistakes* :\ (lol ironic)02:03
Granvilleso I just burn the iso I don't do anything else02:03
jtan325__thoreauputic, nikkia, thanks for the help so far. i need to clarify though, when does the .bash_profile get executed?02:03
bimberiAdreno: lol - the chatroom - a question that others in #ubuntu might know about02:03
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jtan325__when you open up a plain old xterm or aterm, it does NOT source .bash_profile, correct?02:04
jtan325__it sources .bashrc though02:04
thoreauputicjtan325__: .bash_profile is sourced for login shells02:04
Adrenobimberi: ok lol. misunderstood ya there.02:04
jtan325__i don't understand what is the "login shell"02:05
jtan325__is that the non-graphical version of the login screen?02:05
jtan325__or a shell that is login02:05
jtan325__enabled02:05
jtan325__i.e. aterm +ls02:05
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gr0bihi everyone02:06
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gr0bii have a problem with vmware02:06
jtan325__thoreauputic, if i logged in using the graphical gdm login screen, is my .bash_profile sourced still?02:06
gr0bii installed windows xp professional with service pack2, but vmware can't boot it02:06
gr0bisomeone have any idea why?02:07
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thoreauputicjtan325__: I'm not sure on that one, frankly02:08
thoreauputicjtan325__: are you sure you are looking in the right place to solve the problem? I don't understand why you are so concerned with .bash_profile02:10
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jtan325__hmm well like i said in the beginning, the real heart of the problem, is that i want to execute two commands when my xsession starts. i want to execute them in the same place where fluxbox commands would run, i.e. if i had a fluxbox menu item that simply did "cp file file1", i want to know where's the "terminal" that that command runs in, and how can i affect its environment02:12
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ubuntu_hey ppl02:13
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thoreauputicjtan325__: ah, so you want to run the command without popping up an aterm or whatever ?02:14
jtan325__well i guess02:14
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jtan325__no02:14
jtan325__i want to run a command without a password being prompted for02:14
jtan325__currently, if i opened an aterm02:14
jtan325__and then typed "scp file host:"02:15
jtan325__it works, without asking for a password02:15
jtan325__as it should02:15
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jtan325__but if you have an idea for what you mentioned, go ahead02:16
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thoreauputicjtan325__: well, as a test I just did touch fubar ; aterm -e scp fubar mmx:/home/thoreauputic and that happened without asking for a password FWIW02:20
jtan325__where did you do this from?02:20
thoreauputicjtan325__: mmx is an old machine on the local network set up for ssh using keys as we discussed before02:20
jtan325__from another aterm?02:21
jtan325__or from something like a fluxbox menu item?02:21
thoreauputicjtan325__: yes02:21
jtan325__if i do what you did from another aterm, it works too02:21
jtan325__which is great02:21
thoreauputicno not from the menu - i'd have to hack the menu file to do that ;)02:21
thoreauputicI think a menu item *should* work with that syntax02:22
jtan325__so yeah, that's what i'm trying to do, is do it from the menu02:22
thoreauputicbut I may be wrong02:22
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refuze2loozehow can i go through a video frame by frame?02:24
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ripokHello, i need help to setup my wlan on ubuntu.02:26
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jtan325__thoreauputic, i got it to work, albeit a workaround02:26
jtan325__i should've just listened to the other guy.... write a script02:26
jtan325__and then to aterm -e scriptname02:27
thoreauputicjtan325__: the other guy was me ;)02:27
jtan325__lol hahahahhaha02:27
jtan325__it is 5:27 a.m.02:27
thoreauputicjtan325__: ;-)02:27
lambertet02:27
Will__Anybody know a way to play shoutcast stuff on linux? (Trying to play winamp TV on my linux box)02:27
jtan325__thanks alot thoreauputic though02:28
rekarefuze2looze: i think most media players skip by at least 5 seconds right?  we might have to turn to some sort of video editors to be able to do that.02:28
lambertquand j'ouvre synaptic, on me demande aucuin mot de passe!! normal??02:28
thoreauputicjtan325__: you're welcome :)02:28
thoreauputiclambert: depends on how long since you last were asked for a password02:29
Ja1Does anybody know whether   Ubuntu-warty  runs on kernel 2.6.12 from Etch ?  I need rt2400.ko.02:30
fabbioneJa1: no02:30
fabbioneyou need breezy 2.6.1202:30
refuze2loozereka, yeah i'm looking for a video editor.. you can play VLC in slow motion and you can get close02:30
fabbioneto get the rt240002:30
lambertyes thanks :)02:30
Ja1thx, I will pick a 2.6.12 kernel from archive.ubuntu.com02:31
rekarefuze2looze: i'm looking for something like quicktime player's functionality where you can use the arrow keys to go back and forth frame by frame.02:31
rekarefuze2looze: let me know if you find something good :)02:31
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ripokCan anyone help me on setting up wlan?02:32
refuze2loozereka, that's the sort of thing i wanted also.. i don't think there is though. a video editing program would be close, i'll install some and see which one is good and let you know02:32
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rekarefuze2looze: cheers02:33
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QRayhai02:36
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siorfini want to make a a rescue disk off a 256meg usb drive how do i do that?02:37
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kbrooksI want to upgrade the packages NOT upgraded02:39
kbrooksheh this theme is athesically pleasing.....02:39
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jeroen_kbrooks, ?02:43
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tekyogihi... guys.. absolute newbie here.... first time on internet from my new linux box...02:44
jeroen_hi02:45
tekyogican't remember when was the last time i had this kid-in-a-candyshop-feeling!!!02:45
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bimberi:)02:45
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thoreauputictekyogi: welcome to Ubuntu :)02:45
tekyogii built my system n' everything seems to be pretty fine... the modem was such a dog to set it up...02:46
kbrookserm02:46
kbrooksi have a problem02:46
jeroen_kbrooks, just ask02:46
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tekyogistills ome probs with the sound i thnk...02:46
maradongkbrooks, go ahead and ask :)02:46
acid2Hey, I ran a fullscreen app and I forgot to code a way to quit it.. is there anyway I can xkill it?02:46
tekyogigosh.. 12:45 am here.. betta get some sleep02:46
kbrookssome packages have been kept back and i require they be ALL upgraded02:47
Seveaskbrooks, dist-upgrade02:47
jeroen_kbrooks, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:47
kbrooksare you joking?02:47
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maradongkbrooks, open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude"02:47
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maradongkbrooks, while in aptitude press "U"02:47
maradongkbrooks, note that it is a capital U02:47
rekaacid2: if ctrl+c doesn't work, try a ctrl+d to minimise everything02:47
maradongkbrooks, than press g02:47
maradongkbrooks, that should do it02:48
acid2reka: coo, ill try that02:48
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tekyogiso this is kinda the ubuntu chat group,right???02:48
kbrooksokay02:48
acid2reka, nope, nothing :P02:48
acid2still fullscreen02:48
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Seveastekyogi, yes02:48
rekatekyogi: so you just came in here to tell us of your happiness? :)02:48
philstarusing which linux burning program will ensure proper burning of 5.04 install cd?02:48
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TomTomhi there! what is the parameter for the live-cd kernel to SKIP ieee1394/firewire detection ?02:49
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thoreauputicacid2: or  dive into a tty with "ctrl-alt-F2", login and issue pkill <app> ; then lt-F7 to return to GUI02:49
acid2im in a console now (thats how im on irc :P)02:49
acid2so yea, ill try that pkill idea02:49
tekyogiyeah... pretty much guys... i wish i cud wake all my flatties up n' tell them... anyway i betta stop b4 i get kicked out...:-)02:49
acid2but.. how do I know the window id to kill?02:49
kbrooksps?02:49
thoreauputicacid2: pkill will kill by app name or process name02:50
maradongkbrooks, ps?02:50
kbrookstekyogi, huh......02:50
maradongkbrooks, what should that mean? :)02:50
acid2thoreauputic: ok02:50
tekyogibtw i'm here in New Zealand... how about u all???02:50
rekaphilstar: apparently, the speed should be set rather slow to ensure a good burn.  don't think the app matters much, but gnomebaker has been recommended a few times02:50
siorfindoes anyone here know anything about trinity rescue kit?02:50
kbrooksps -aux | grep program name02:50
acid2erm "issue - command not found"02:50
rekatekyogi: melbourne02:50
philstarthanx reka02:50
thoreauputicacid2: heh - I said to "issue" a command02:51
acid2ooo02:51
acid2xD02:51
kbrooksi'm in peterborough, staying at a home for a while02:51
thoreauputicleave out "issue"02:51
acid2bo yah02:51
acid2Thanks :)02:51
thoreauputic:)02:51
acid2Now then.. time to code a way to quit :P02:52
tekyogig'day.... reka.. i'll in Melbourne from 18th - 24th....02:52
kbrooks:)02:52
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tekyogiany tips on good places to see?02:52
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kbrooksheh02:52
kbrooks2.4 rules the world02:52
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kbrooksgad02:53
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kbrooksmozilla-firefox is a hog02:53
tekyogii've got plans to do some climbing in grampians or so.. was seeing in the news how one of the 12 apostles rock crumbled the other day...02:53
rekaah, went to the grampians around 8 yrs ago02:54
tekyogithought grampians is the place to be...02:54
rekatekyogi: so you're coming here for a holiday?02:54
acid2kbrooks, hog?02:54
tekyogifor me its training for the first 3 days n' 3 days to seeing the place around...02:55
kbrookshuge......02:55
acid2oh, right02:55
kbrookson disk space02:55
acid2I thought you meant resource hog :P02:55
kbrooksand memory02:55
kbrooksacid2, that too02:55
acid2naw, its not bad02:55
kbrooksheh02:55
kbrookswell, i partitioned up /usr02:55
acid2Wait a sec...02:55
acid2VM Size is memory usage?02:55
tekyoginot sure if u guys heard.. london has just been selected to host the 2012 olympics... pretty good,eh..02:55
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acid2apparently firefox-bin is using 80mb :/02:56
kbrooks /var is too02:56
kbrooksand so is /home02:56
tekyogihey.. i betta be going... gnite alll...02:56
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rekanight.  enjoy your new system. :)02:57
acid2We just got a new Ubuntu user?02:57
kbrooksYup.02:57
acid2bo yah, thats the spirit02:57
acid2:)02:57
tekyogisure did.. its me :-)02:57
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acid2I installed mine 2/3 days ago02:57
kbrookstekyogi,02:58
acid2Haven't looked back yet :)02:58
kbrooksubuntuguide.com02:58
rekawe should come up with a ritual for newbies....something with paddles. :)02:58
kbrooksor .org, dunno which02:58
acid2kbrooks, that site doesnt work for me.. are there any mirrors?02:58
tekyogii got mine running yesterday, but took whole of this evening to figure out the ppp connection...02:58
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tekyogiyeah....:-)02:58
acid2(And its .org)02:58
rekakbrooks: please don't recommend ubguide02:58
kbrooksreka, no, we should link people to the ubuntu guide02:58
kbrooksreka, why?02:58
rekakbrooks: er, no, we shouldn't02:58
rekahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines [see number 3] 02:59
kbrooksgod02:59
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tekyogiok guys.. will sure have a look there.. hope to see u sometime soon... bye n' gnite..02:59
acid2ooo02:59
rekathe ops in here would scold me for not piping up bout that02:59
Trackilizerhey ppl02:59
_SWAT_I want to use this howto to compile my own kernel. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&highlight=Kernel+compilation    What if this fails and I want to return to my old kernel? How would that work?02:59
Trackilizernew to linux02:59
Trackilizerubuntu is simply amazing02:59
Trackilizerit simply works!02:59
rekaTrackilizer: good to hear :)02:59
acid2Trackilizer, wonderful, isnt it?03:00
acid2:)03:00
_SWAT_indeed Trackilizer...... and tell your friends!03:00
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acid2im gonna wow my friends into getting Linux with Luminocity ;)03:00
Trackilizeri tried suse and other distros but only ubuntu works03:00
Trackilizerlike i said, it simply just works03:00
acid2Fedora worked well for me, but I couldnt get mono working - and Im a .NET developer03:00
kbrooksUbuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions. # Care to give a example, someone?03:00
Trackilizeri love the ubuntuguide03:01
kbrooks(not that I want proof!)03:01
acid2lol03:01
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_SWAT_beware of Ubuntuguide, it may shorten the lifespan of your system03:01
kbrooks_SWAT_, heh03:02
Trackilizerreally?03:02
Trackilizerthought it was good03:02
Trackilizerworked for me03:02
kbrooksTrackilizer, in general, yes03:02
Trackilizershoed me how to intall the codecs and other stuff03:02
Trackilizershowed*03:02
kbrooksbut some answers are wrong03:02
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_SWAT_depends on which of the guides 'help' you follow (tip: it's always good to read the original readme/install file of a program)03:03
Will__I like ubuntuguide, as I know what I'm doing, but at times forget the method03:03
kbrooksuh. last updated today?03:03
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kbrooks:|03:03
ripokhave anyone set up wlan on ubuntu?03:04
kbrooksi'll have to critize sudo. someone can masquerade as me and become root BECAUSE THEY KNOW my password03:05
kbrooks(already)03:05
kbrooksplain and simple03:05
kbrooksother than that03:05
kbrooksit "just works"03:06
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maxy_noobHi guys, can you tell me where I can find those instructions for installing plugins like flash?03:07
_SWAT_pfff... compiling your kernel takes a lot of time :/03:07
kbrooksmaxy_noob, uh03:07
maxy_noobIt appears they've changed things around in the ubuntu site03:07
acid2What do you think about a wiki entry called "SuccessStories" ?03:07
no_gatez_fanbbl03:07
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acid2maxy_noob, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:07
kbrooksmaxy_noob, ubuntu wiki.03:08
kbrooks:)03:08
maxy_noobthanks!03:08
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acid2np03:08
Shadaxhello peple03:08
rekakbrooks: i can't explicitly show you the "regressions" b/c i don't know which ones they are.  i'm not knowledgeable enough.  but after seeing the ops ward people off the guide, i felt i needed to point it out.03:08
Shadaxi'm wondering about how long it should take for my ubuntu cd's i ordered to arrive in the mail.. i ordered from ubuntu.org03:09
richxanybody knows how i have to tell azereus to download more than three files at the same time?03:09
rekaShadax: depends where you are.03:09
_SWAT_richx, that can really take a while03:09
Shadaxwiconsin03:09
acid2Shadax, apparently 4-8weeks03:09
kbrooksreka, heh03:09
Shadaxack keyboard sucks03:09
richxrealy?03:09
rekamine took ~10, but i'm in aus03:09
Shadaxomg03:09
acid2reka, sec03:10
kbrooksShadax, be patient!03:10
_SWAT_richx, just search the azureus options :P03:10
Shadaxmy god i cant wait that long03:10
kbrooksShadax, why?03:10
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Shadaxmy slackware distro died :P03:10
acid2because ubuntu rocks!03:10
richxbut i cant find it!03:10
acid2He NEEDS ubuntu03:10
acid2:)03:10
Shadaxand i cant get crux workin03:10
Shadaxi dunno... it was deterierating over time03:10
Trackilizeri ordered a cd aswell but it never came so i dloaded ubuntu03:10
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Shadaxi'm also waiting for gentoo, i wanna try both03:10
Shadaxoh man03:11
acid2reka, try setting Transfer -> Maximum number of connections per torrent to 003:11
kbrooksShadax, well, you can install it via other ways.....i wont mention them (unsupported ways), it's up to you to check the net03:11
rekaTrackilizer: i got sick of waiting so i burned it myself as well....then the disc came all nicely packaged :)03:11
acid2I want to order it just so I have a nice packaged cd :)03:12
kbrooksheh03:12
Trackilizerlol03:12
Shadaxwell, i have dial up... 14.4k03:12
Trackilizerim still hoping mine comes soon03:12
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Trackilizeri love the ubuntu name cause i know what it means03:12
rekarichx: i think acid2's post was meant for you. :)03:12
Trackilizerim half tanzanian03:12
Trackilizergrew up in tanzania03:12
kbrooksShadax, are you on windows?03:12
_SWAT_reka, the same thing happened to me. I wanted to install ubuntu, so I burned the cd myself. 1 Day later, the Ubuntu discs arrived :-/03:12
rekahehe03:12
acid2whatever xD03:12
kbrooksheh03:13
Shadaxatm, yeah03:13
kbrooks1 hour03:13
acid2richx, yea, do what I told reka to do :P03:13
Shadaxon my parent's pc03:13
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Trackilizerhow long did it take for your cds to arrive?03:13
klaymI also installed ubuntu of my own burned cd just a day before I received the 20 cd's I had ordered03:13
acid220?!03:13
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Trackilizer20??03:13
Trackilizerwth?03:13
kbrooksmine? i dunno, i just waited patiently03:13
_SWAT_klaym, why 20?03:13
Shadaxlol 20!03:13
klaymyea, I will decorate the christmas tree with those03:13
richxthanks, but nothing happend03:13
kbrooksyeah, you caan distribute the cds03:13
kbrookscan*03:13
rekait's actually better to order more than one guys :)03:13
Shadaxi ordered 10, but only cuz my friends wanna try it03:13
Trackilizerdo they come to germany aswell?03:14
acid2richx, dunno then, chill out on the porn I say03:14
acid2:P03:14
richxstatus of the other torrents is still "waiting"03:14
rekaTrackilizer: worldwide03:14
Trackilizercause i orderd them a looong time ago?03:14
kbrooksubuntu is distributable03:14
_SWAT_people, please order just the amount you really NEED. Otherwise it's a waste of ubuntulinux money03:14
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acid2richx, right click forced download?03:14
kbrooksmodifiable03:14
kbrooksetc03:14
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richxyes Trackalizer, die CDs werden auch nach germany geschickt03:14
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Trackilizercool, kann irgendwie net mehr warten03:14
kbrooksrichx, and that means what03:14
Hallskiif you want suspend to disk in ubuntu on a IBM Thinkpad X41, should you do that on it's own partition or something purely in Linux?03:14
Trackilizerich will das die bald kommen03:14
acid2die bald?03:15
_SWAT_Trackilizer, I'm in NL and they were also delivered here (p.s. please speak english here)03:15
acid2was ist die bald? (ich bin englisch :P)03:15
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Trackilizerbald = soon03:15
_SWAT_indeed it is03:15
richxich warte auch noch03:15
acid2you want them to come soon?03:15
richxhab schon ne mail geschrieben03:15
Shadaxsame here, and i'm 15 :P03:16
_SWAT_richx, english please03:16
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richxsorry03:16
_SWAT_:)03:16
Shadaxoh LOL :P03:16
kbrooksbonjour ;)03:16
richxyes, it works with "force download"03:16
kbrooks:P03:16
kbrooksj/k03:16
richxthanks03:16
Trackilizerhow many of you guys orderd the cds?03:16
ivoksgreat job EU!03:16
_SWAT_I'm a german (living in NL) and also speaking english, but it's not fair to all the other users in this channel (there is a #Ubuntu-de  if you're wondering)03:16
Trackilizerhow long did it take them to come?03:16
kbrooksTrackilizer, many of us03:16
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kbrooksTrackilizer, stop polling03:17
Trackilizerdo you guys use KDE or gnome03:17
_SWAT_gnome03:17
Trackilizermany ppl seem to think gnome is shitty03:17
_SWAT_it's much easier (and looking really sweet003:17
kbrooksTrackilizer, you DO NOT want 487 people replying at the same time!!!03:17
Trackilizertelling me to install kubuntu03:17
_SWAT_hehehee... indeed03:17
kbrooksi love gnome03:17
cyphasehow do you look at login attempts in ubuntu03:17
richxme too03:17
cyphase?03:17
richx;-)03:17
richxi ordered 22 cdsx03:18
richxsorry, cds03:18
kbrooksubuntu ships with it03:18
_SWAT_OMG, I hope the EU votes AGAINST softwar patents.... :-/03:18
Shadaxi dislike gnome for the most part03:18
kbrookscyphase, i think you can find them in:03:18
Shadaxkde feels more complete03:18
Trackilizerwhat do you get with the cds other than the cds of course?03:18
acid2Trackilizer, no, most people think gnome is best03:18
acid2hence the fact that both Fedora and Ubuntu use it by defaul03:18
kbrooks/var/log/auth.log03:18
acid2+t03:18
Shadaxfedora doesnt count :P03:19
acid2...why?03:19
kbrooksgnome = ubuntu = free03:19
rekaTrackilizer: the nice packaging of course03:19
hhurtta_SWAT_: eu voted against...03:19
kbrookser, s/free/open source/03:19
kbrookshhurtta, when03:19
_SWAT_hhurtta, just read it.... YESSSSSSS03:19
Shadaxfedora, mandrake, and redhat cant count towards anything anymore, they're too corrupt :P03:19
hhurttatoday03:19
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kbrookshhurtta, prove it! site?03:20
_SWAT_No software patents in the EU!03:20
acid2Shadax, ... Fedora is pretty much fine03:20
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kbrooks_SWAT_, site please!03:20
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acid2_SWAT_, atm that is03:20
_SWAT_www.ffii.org03:20
Shadaxby the time i get it, it'll be obsolete :P03:20
_SWAT_the site is down03:20
kbrooksi'd like reliable proof03:20
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_SWAT_a dutch article about it     http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/3793703:20
_SWAT_of the 732 people.... 648  voted AGAINST03:20
_SWAT_:D03:20
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hhurttahttp://www.mbnet.fi/jutut/uutiset/?from=etusivu#U1827 finnish article03:20
_SWAT_I didn't think it would work... but it worked03:21
djp_SWAT_: great news!03:21
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refuze2loozereka, give cinelerra a try http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php303:21
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_SWAT_damn, I was really worrying03:21
djp_SWAT_: can i change my index.html file now? ;)03:21
_SWAT_but it worked out ok03:21
_SWAT_:P03:21
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rekarefuze2looze: thanks.  does it do what we want?03:22
cyphasecan someone ssh into a server and see if it's working?03:22
kbrooksi heard cinelerra was broken03:22
cyphasemy cousin is getting permission denied03:22
acid2so, does this mean people in europe aren't subject to any software patents?03:22
kbrooksacid2, ALFN03:22
Trackilizerhas anyone seen "Go open"?03:22
Trackilizerhttp://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm03:22
acid2cyphase, sure03:22
acid2alfn?03:22
kbrooksat least for now03:22
Trackilizer!stats03:23
acid2...03:23
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kbrooksheh03:24
bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?03:24
_SWAT_acid2, indeed03:24
maxycan you guys tell me what the command line is to navigate to a folder (he says all embarrassed)03:24
_SWAT_we aren't subjected to software patents (and hopefully never will)03:24
acid2nice03:24
Trackilizerso, has anyone seen "Go open"?03:24
rekarefuze2looze: whoa, 4gb ram recommended?03:24
_SWAT_that means we can't get patented webshops ;-)   (like the example of the FFII show)03:24
acid2does that cover algorithm patents?03:24
maxyplease03:25
maxy:D03:25
rekamaxy: cd03:25
Trackilizerhttp://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm03:25
acid2yea, cd03:25
maxycd?03:25
maxyI tried03:25
maxysudo cd ...03:25
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Trackilizeranyone seen "Go open"?03:25
rekamaxy: cd <folder name/path>03:25
acid2maxy, no need to sudo03:25
_SWAT_acid2, Don't know. At least the first battle is won. But the war is still going on03:25
maxyno sudo?03:25
Tomcat_acid2: Yeah, algorithm patents03:25
mdkehi. is there anyway to remove window borders on metacity/gnome?03:25
Tomcat_acid2: It was especially targeted at algorithms, ideas and business processes iirc.03:26
rekamaxy: no, you're just traversing, not changing anything so it's not a priveliged action, therefore no need for sudo03:26
maxyreka, thanks!03:26
rekamdke: wow, remove them completely?03:26
acid2Tomcat_, sweeet - so marching cubes isosurfaces are unpatented here?03:27
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refuze2loozereka, i have 512, it's enough to capture the frame i wanted =)03:27
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mdkereka, just for one window03:27
Tomcat_acid2: Depends... the EU patent office has already issued 30k trivial patents, and they can't be taken back... you have to check with your patent lawyer. :o03:27
acid2ah, I see03:28
rekamdke: i'm guessing no, not possible.  seeing as the window borders ahve controls attached03:28
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mdkereka, it is possible in other window managers, that's why I was hoping...03:28
coreyHow do I get a kernel module to always load up?03:28
rekarefuze2looze: ah, ok then.  damn, i just want a lightweight player that can do it.03:28
coreyinstead of manualy modprobing it I mean03:29
rekamdke: oh, ok then03:29
coreyIs there a way I can tell hotplug to make sure a certain module is always loaded?03:29
acid2mdke, its possible with other window managers03:29
Tomcat_corey: /etc/modules has all the info :)03:29
coreyThanks Tomcat03:29
mdkeacid2, yeah, that's what I said :)03:29
rekahehe03:30
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hhurttalink about that patent decision to interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4655955.stm03:30
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kbrooksheh03:32
acid2mdke, heh, i thought you said "is it possible?"03:33
acid2:P03:33
mdkeso any ideas about removing window borders?03:33
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mdkeacid2, aha, yeah you can do it on e17, so I wanted to do it with metacity too03:33
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cyphase does anyone know why 1 person would be unable to ssh into a server03:37
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cyphaseand that person would be the person who wants to log into it03:37
cyphaselol03:37
kbrooksUH03:38
kbrooksis the server started?03:38
mdkecyphase, everyone else can log in?03:38
refuze2loozereka, nah.. but if you really want to see something frame by frame every once in a while, might as well use it03:38
refuze2loozereka, that's one of the good things about free software =)03:39
Triffid_Huntercyphase: dmesg | tail, see what it says03:40
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cyphasemdke, everyone i've tried03:41
cyphase7 people03:41
cyphaselol03:41
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mdkecyphase, ok better check the server is started03:42
cyphasemdke, of course it is03:42
cyphaselol03:42
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cyphasei'm on it right now03:42
cyphaseand everyone else was able to get in03:43
mdkeis the user that can't, a user on the system?03:43
cyphaseyes03:43
cyphaseeveryone logged onto the same account03:43
mdkeok better check the config file and the logs03:43
cyphasefor..03:43
mdkelogs for the error message, config file to fix it03:43
cyphasehmm..03:44
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cyphaseit just stopped working all of a sudden03:44
kbrooksreestart03:44
cyphasethey were ssh'ing in a weeka go03:44
kbrooksssh server03:44
cyphasewek ago*03:44
cyphaseweek ago*03:44
cyphaselol03:44
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kbrooksJ/K03:45
kbrooksheh.03:46
Trackilizerdo you still use win or are you all linux now?03:46
kbrooksTrackilizer, me?03:46
Trackilizerall of you03:46
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Trackilizerjust wanted to know if you guys still use windows for somethings03:47
cyphaseUbuntu here03:47
acid2I play guildwars on windows03:47
kbrooksTrackilizer, i said stop polling. it makes you look stupid03:47
digitalfoxall Linux, except my mother's computer. I converted my dad over to Linux.03:47
acid2and cs: source03:47
digitalfoxoh, wait.03:47
cyphaseUbuntu 100%03:47
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digitalfoxI have a spare Win2K box for RO03:47
kbrooksi'm on linux03:47
digitalfoxbut my server, desktop, three laptops, and router are all Linux-based03:47
Trackilizerkbrooks, why would asking questions make me look stupid?03:47
kbrooksTrackilizer, asking questions is ok. polling is not03:48
Trackilizererm.. why would "polling" make me look stupid?03:48
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taomasteris there a page that i can go in download software for ubuntu?03:49
kbrooksTrackilizer, no idea, but that's my view.03:49
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rekaTrackilizer: he'd prefer you to use interrupts </lame OS joke>03:49
cyphasetaomaster, use Synaptic03:49
kbrookstaomaster, er, use synaptic03:50
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taomasterthanks03:50
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dwinghi03:50
velenowhere do i find lopster for ubuntu 5.04 ?03:50
kbrooksveleno, use synaptic. did you search for it there?03:50
rekaTrackilizer: i still use windoze for games...never have diverted from a dual boot system03:50
dwingwhen I insert a cd into the device, shouldn't it get mounted automatically?03:51
Ralcuhm what do i do when my laptop just shows a blank screen when im trying to boot from the cd? i want to install ubuntu and i have already pressed enter to start "normal" install03:51
kbrooksreka, You do know that many games exist for linux right03:51
kbrooksRalc, reboot and say: linux vga=77103:51
rekakbrooks: only so many games of frozen bubble can satisfy me kbrooks :)03:52
velenokbrooks: i did. it's not there03:52
Will__heh03:52
kbrooksveleno, you on warty or hoary?03:52
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rekadwing: yes, that's the default behaviour03:52
Ralckbrooks also the splash image is f*cked up03:52
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velenokbrooks: hoary03:53
dwingreka: not here, I don't know what happened, but my cd's do not become mounted03:53
rekadwing: sys > pref > removable03:53
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kbrooksheh03:54
Ralckbrooks it doesnt work btw.. Could not find kernel image03:54
kbrooksRalc, wtf? uh.03:54
kbrooksRalc, press f1 please03:54
kbrooksRalc, (sorry for the swearing)03:55
dwingreka: no effect03:55
Ralckbrooks yes and?03:55
dwingsomething seems to be brokem :-/03:55
kbrooksRalc, hm.....try pressing f7.03:56
rekadwing: did you do anything "weird" you know of that might have caused it?03:56
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alebesioprova03:57
alebesioTEST03:57
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dwingreka: not that I knew of. maybe because I removed the cdrom from the source in synaptic?03:58
rekadwing: no, that should have no effect.03:58
Ralckbrooks yes and?03:59
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rekadwing: is this all cds or just the one03:59
apackhello :)03:59
dwingall03:59
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rekahmm, dunno04:00
taomastercyphase & kbrooks-thanks for the help04:00
sinfernoi have cedega installed, and i got cs 1.6 running, should i want to install winex?04:00
kbrooksRalc, any ibm thinkpad command?04:00
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zecoureausHi you all...04:00
sinfernoor dx9wine04:00
kbrooksRalc, wait do you have one04:01
zecoureausI'm newbie on ubuntu...04:01
kbrooksthere is a option for some laptops04:01
Ralckbrooks no i do not have an ibm thinkpad04:01
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Evilhello all04:01
zecoureausand I need help to find a french channel, please...04:01
dwingIt seems that I'm even not able to mount cds manually04:01
sinfernodoes wine run counter strike better than cedega???04:01
goldfishzecoureaus: #ubuntu-fr04:01
Evilcan someone help to get my X back please?04:02
kbrooksDo you see a laptop option, ralc?04:02
zecoureausthanks a lot goldfish... ;-)04:02
Ralcnope04:02
goldfishsinferno: cedega04:02
kbrooksEvil: running breezy?04:02
Ralckbrooks no i dont04:02
goldfishzecoureaus: au revoir a bientot04:02
rekadwing: you sure the drive isn't faulty?04:02
sinfernogoldfish, i thought so i just wasnt sure04:02
Evilkbrooks:  yes :/04:02
kbrooksRalc, 'for some laptops'04:02
kbrooksEvil, why?04:02
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zecoureausgoldfish, c'est malin lol04:02
dwingreka: yes04:03
Paulehi04:03
kbrooksenglish please04:03
Ralckbrooks nope04:03
dwingbooting with live cd is no problem04:03
Evilbecause i wanted to test it and reports bugs...04:03
goldfishkbrooks: WEE WEE04:03
kbrooksRalc, press f8 and check....04:03
kbrooksheh04:03
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sinfernowhere is the modules.conf on ubuntu?04:04
kbrooksgoldfish, i said 'english please'04:04
kbrooksis that bastardized english or what?04:04
Paulecan you help me with bootsplash on ubuntu04:04
goldfishkbrooks: it's bastardized french.04:04
dwingreka: when I try to mount it manually it says /dev/hdc does not exist04:04
nalioth_wrknEvil: whats the problem04:04
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kbrooksEvil, X is broken in Breezy.04:05
kbrooksIf you have to ask, don't use Breezy.04:05
naliothEvil: n/m, i don't know breezy04:05
EvilX doesn't want to start  , it says /etc/X11/X is not executable nalioth04:05
apackI'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, and was wondering if there is any manuals containing the basics on commands?04:05
rekakbrooks: nalioth's back. now you can ask him which parts of ubguide are bad. :)04:05
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Evilargh oki04:05
naliothapack: what kind of commands?04:06
kbrooksnalioth: What parts of the Ubuntu guide are bad?04:06
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cerius-de04:06
Paulethe problem is splasimage not found04:06
apackwell, all kinds of commands. This is my first time in the world of linux04:06
rekadwing: not really sure....maybe search ubforums/start googling04:06
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kbrooksheh04:07
naliothkbrooks: i don't have a list of 'bad' commands, but advising new users to enable non-official (and newly-official) repos for constant use is not good04:07
apacknalioth: sort of "commands for beginners"04:07
kbrooksthe stupid kernel image....04:07
goldfishapack: google for 'linux terminal commands' any of the first results should be good.04:07
naliothapack: there is a menu system under Applications04:07
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Seveasapack, look at www.tldp.org04:07
kbrooksnalioth: uh, oh. *checks*04:07
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apackgoldfish: nalioth and Seveas... thanks!04:08
naliothapack: you will be quite busy learning from tldp.org04:08
apacki guess so04:08
kbrooksnalioth: ah. backports04:08
XandriXapt-get -i build-essentials for gcc right ?04:09
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kbrooksXandriX, uh04:09
naliothkbrooks: while backports have been 'officialized', they still have not 'synced' fully, imho04:09
naliothXandriX: correct04:09
XandriXkbrooks, is that it ?04:09
XandriXok yay04:09
XandriXi rememberd it lol04:09
kbrooks-i is non existant04:09
kbrookswtf is -i anyway04:09
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XandriXman apt-get ihih04:10
naliothoh me oh my....need to wake up04:10
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kbrooks(sorry, nalioth, 'wtf' is my habit!)04:10
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kbrooksnope04:11
kbrooksXandriX, dont see -i04:11
naliothkbrooks: the 'guide is more written for advanced linux users (who know what the commands are/do)04:11
XandriXkbrooks, well ur hihg lol04:11
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ravntest04:11
kbrooksi dont!!!!04:11
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XandriXXandriX, has used all well alot of linux distros and all unixes that exist and all the bsds to04:12
kbrookswho says i'n lying? :|04:12
kbrooksi'm*04:12
kbrooksnalioth: omg04:12
kbrooksso its not for newbies?04:12
kbrooksnalioth: how come?04:12
rekakbrooks: look at the configure sound properly one and tell us what it's doing04:13
naliothkbrooks: correct, i see it more as a 'redhat/suse/gentoo > ubuntu/debian guide'04:13
naliothkbrooks: and some of plain out-n-out does not work04:14
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naliothkbrooks: let me ask, how many New Users know if they have PPC, x86 or amd64 in their boxen?04:15
kbrooksthat's long, nalioth. (the configure sound properly one)04:15
alebesioDARIO Gay04:15
kbrooksnalioth: yup04:15
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Protequenalioth: most ppl if they have ppc at least :D04:15
kbrooksnalioth: read: *new* users04:15
Protequeif they have ppc they have made a choice to have it.04:16
kbrooksWTF?04:16
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kbrooksit LISTS how to upgrade from hoary to breezy?04:16
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kbrooksWHY WHY WHY?04:16
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naliothProteque: yes, they might, but the ubuntuguide doesnt say "this doesnt work for ppc", it just instructs04:16
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Protequehmmm never looked at the guide04:17
naliothkbrooks: thats why the popup exists.. .. .. to whop ubuntuguide advisors with04:17
Protequeis it any good?04:17
rekakbrooks: so my passing on of the warning was the right thing to do after all :)04:17
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Seveaskbrooks, ubuntuguide.org is crap04:17
naliothProteque: are you an advanced linux user?04:17
Seveaspure crap04:17
kbrooks(nalioth: now you notice it's really a habit!)04:17
Protequenalioth: would say so. has worked with it for about 6 years now.04:17
Ralchow do i check if the .iso i downloaded is working?04:17
naliothProteque: then you know more than the guide offers04:18
kbrooksi'm a intermediate linux user04:18
Protequewell it is impossible to know everything. but if you know how to get to know stuff thats enough.04:18
naliothRalc: find a md5 checksum from the download site and check it against your downloaded iso image04:18
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naliothProteque: the 'guide is a load of <whatever sucks>, esp for brand new users04:19
magogso if the file were corrupt he md5 would be incorrect right04:19
kbrooksSeveas, yeah, and pure BS. reka gave a example... "configure sound properly" section. it's long, gives NO, ZERO, NIL, VOID, explanation of what the commands do, yet they work....and as for the repossitories, why suggest adding a new repo?04:19
Ralcnalioth, and how do i do that?04:19
Protequedoesnt sound work out of the box?04:20
magogRalc, if you use k3b it will check the md5 when you load the iso04:20
Protequethere was a lot og noice untill I configured gdm to stfu I remember. hehe04:20
rekakbrooks: 'cos some of the packages they tell you to install aren't in main/multi/universe04:20
rekaso they defer to BP04:20
kbrooksreka, they shouldn't defer.04:21
Ralcmagog, i dont even know what k3b is04:21
kbrookswhat's the point?04:21
rekakbrooks: exactly04:21
naliothRalc: once you find the md5 checksum, put it in the same directory as the iso image, and open a terminal and type md5sum file.iso04:21
magogRalc, its a burning application04:21
naliothRalc: once it gives you a result, check the result with the checksum you got from the site04:21
Ralcheh i dont have linux installed, nalioth04:21
naliothProteque: sound on hoary is kinda screwed, so the answer is yes and no04:22
naliothRalc: what OS?04:22
Ralcnalioth, windows and im trying to get ubuntu on my laptop04:22
magogim sure in nero or alcohol 120 it shows the md504:23
kbrooksnalioth: i would never modify configuration files *to get what I want* if I were a new user04:23
naliothRalc: yes, i'm sure your burning applicatin can check the md5, just compare with the checksum from the d/l site04:23
naliothkbrooks: new users are ignorant of that04:23
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naliothkbrooks: new users are especially at risk from ubuntuguide04:24
Ralcnalioth, ill give it a shot thanks04:24
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magogkbrooks, when i started i managed to mess my stuff up, but everything of mine is externally backed up anyway04:24
kbrooksnalioth: okay.....is the fud about backports true?04:24
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kbrooksfear, uncertainity, doubt04:24
kbrooksuncertainty*04:25
naliothkbrooks: once backports has been more integrated into the ubuntu official process, there should be no stigma04:25
naliothkbrooks: but for now and in the past, using BP constantly definitely would break your system04:25
kbrooksok04:25
naliothkbrooks: and any other unofficial repo04:25
magogwhen i used to run windows i learned to be obsessive about backing everything up on 2 external hd's04:26
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kbrooksnew users should NEVER, EVER, i mean ever, add marillat.04:26
naliothkbrooks: never say never04:26
kbrooksjust because ubuntu is based on debian doesnt mean they are compatible04:26
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naliothkbrooks: i advise (if you are dying to get a certain program) to enable those repos, get what you want, and then comment them out04:27
kbrooksyup.04:27
kbrooksthe guide doesnt advocate that.04:27
naliothas Seveas said, the guide is crap04:27
kbrooksit just says 'use this constantly'04:27
kbrooksyup04:27
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kbrooks100% crap04:28
magogalthough getting E17 from an unnofficial repo was alot easier04:28
naliothkbrooks: how long have you been hanging in here?04:28
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rekakbrooks: i can see your scepticism has flown out the window. :)04:28
kbrooksnalioth: a long time04:28
kbrooksreka, it has04:28
naliothkbrooks: how many users have you seen have to reinstall becuase of constant unofficial repo usage?04:28
kbrooksnalioth: seen? uh, well, i have not been idling04:29
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bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?04:29
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_kevinanyone can tell me how i install from a .bin file04:29
_kevinin ubuntu04:29
maxy_noobNeed some help installing Ooo 2.0 beta.04:29
kbrooks_kevin, execute it.04:29
bionic_kevin: chmod +x file , ./file04:30
maxy_noobI dl'd the file04:30
maxy_noobit has several rpm's04:30
_kevinmaxy_noob try synaptic04:30
magog0oo?04:30
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kbrooksmaxy_noob, be careful with beta programs04:30
maxy_noobdo I have to install all?04:30
kbrooksmagog: openoffice.org04:30
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_kevinmaxy_noob if u add the extra repositories u can get it from synaptic04:30
magogah, ok04:30
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sproingieisn't there a backport or something04:30
kbrooksnalioth: get in there....please04:31
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kbrooksi dont either04:31
naliothmaxy_noob: does the currently available OoO not do something you need?04:31
kbrooksand dont care04:31
maxy_noob_kevin, didn't think of that. Cool!04:31
sproingiesome people want to see what's new in OoO 2.0 because they hate 1.x?04:31
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kbrooksmaxy_noob, wait.04:31
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kbrookshold it.04:31
maxy_noobkbrooks, what?04:32
naliothmaxy_noob: does the currently available OoO not do something you need?04:32
sproingiei found the wp in oo 1.x to be practically unusable.  i tried going back to abiword, but found it's become crashy as hell now04:32
maxy_noobnalioth, not really. I just want the newer version.04:32
maxy_noob:)04:32
kbrooksmaxy_noob, did you read the discussion me and nalioth had about adding repos? plain and simple, you can mess up your ubuntu system by adding unoffical repos04:32
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naliothmaxy_noob: here in linuxland, stability is wonderful04:33
maxy_noobNo, but I did do a multiverse04:33
sproingiemultiverse is quasi-official04:33
naliothmaxy_noob: universe and multiverse are fine04:33
kbrooksmultiverse isnt unofficial04:33
sproingieno  but it's not official04:33
kbrooksmarillat is (example)04:33
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maxy_noobmaybe it was universe, I can't remember.04:33
holycowi don't see what your problem is marillat04:33
holycownone of the packages have dependencies on there04:34
kbrookssproingie, multiverse is official by definition04:34
maxy_noobIn synaptic I see a lot of Ooo entries.04:34
sproingieuniverse is unofficial free, multiverse is unofficial non-free04:34
holycowcodecs and mplayer just work04:34
chizangi notice that hoary installs vnc-common by default; how do i get it to use tightvncserver instead? i've already installed the tightvncserver package...04:34
kbrooksnalioth: i dont get it04:34
maxy_noobIs the newest: openoffice.org2?04:35
chizangis there any further configuration i should do? should i apt-get remove vnc-common?04:35
kbrooksi thought universe and multiverse were official?04:35
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jeroen_kbrooks, not-supported04:35
holycowmaxy_noob, yes, its a bit crashy tho04:35
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holycowrather its still a beta04:35
maxy_noobholycow, ok, thanks04:35
naliothchizang: they won't conflict04:35
holycowyou can have both installed simultaneously04:35
holycowits not problem04:35
naliothkbrooks: they won't bogger your system04:35
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holycowkbrooks, i think you need to talk less and listen more04:36
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sproingiei should imagine "not supported" means that main and restricted won't consider them if they need to break something?04:36
sproingiebecause as far as i know, i can't call up canonical with tech support04:36
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naliothkbrooks: uni and multi are looked over and seen to play nice with ubuntu04:36
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chizangnalioth, so how does the client know which vnc server to connect to? is it that the different servers run on different X displays?04:36
naliothchizang: hopefully you'll only be running one vncd at a time04:37
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kbrooksholycow, yes, maybe i do. i'm a loudmouth04:37
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kbrooks:)04:37
holycowlol04:37
chizangnalioth, is vncd spawned from inetd? ps aux | grep vnc doesn't show anything...04:37
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sproingiei'd have been calling up RH and bitching at them about kswapd eating up all my CPU04:38
FiretechIs there anything wrong using a vanilla 2.6.12 kernel? I need squashfs support...04:38
sproingiei think they even employ RVR04:38
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naliothchizang: vncd is spawned by you, i believe (unless you have enabled it to run on startup)04:38
vladuz976hey does anybody know i can get rid of the ugly default icons in the gnome menu?04:38
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naliothvladuz976: system > preferences > themes04:38
steffenex-chat04:38
kbrooks10 minutes...04:38
vladuz976Nakkel, that changes everything but those icons04:39
deviosI have an HP network printer on my network.  how do I make ubuntu print to it04:39
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deviosit has it's own hardware print server04:39
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kbrooksdevios, computer > system configuration > printing04:40
vladuz976nalioth, themes, icons only changes the folder icons for some reason04:40
holycowadd the printer, select network printer, select hp jet direct, type in ip04:40
naliothvladuz976: i'm not familiar with all the theme packages, i'd assume there would be at least 2 sets of icons onboard04:40
kbrooksheh04:40
sproingievladuz976: except for folders and devices, you're basically stuck with most of the icons04:40
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sproingievladuz976: welcome to gnome.  hope you like the color brown.  kde has 100 shades of blue if you prefer.04:41
naliothvladuz976: google "bluecurve theme ubuntu"  the redhat bluecurve theme has a complete icon set04:41
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vladuz976nalioth, can i use the redhat set?04:41
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holycowvladuz976, whats the problem?04:42
naliothvladuz976: when you google that, you should get a walkthrough on how to install the redhat gnome bluecurve theme04:42
holycowyou have half a dozen themes, pick one04:42
holycowor select theme details and customize04:42
holycowor go to art.gnome.org and download one you like04:42
holycowor make your own04:42
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holycowit doesn't get any easier04:42
naliothvladuz976: you DO have many choices04:43
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kbrookslol.04:43
Specwaaait a second, what's a "choice"?04:43
naliothSpec: welcome to linux04:43
=== kbrooks just learned he doesnt like white for a theme.....
Spec:p04:44
kbrookser04:44
kbrooksdesktop background04:44
kbrooksmuch too bright04:44
=== sproingie likes the qt-gtk theme engine. plastik is a pretty nice gnome theme too
XandriXwhat is it for build essentials its apt-get -something build-essentials04:44
kbrookss/s//04:44
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kbrooksapt-get install build-essential04:44
Spec-something is the best switch ever04:45
maxy_noobthe ooo looks kewl!04:45
maxy_noobthe new Ooo, that is04:45
kbrooksSpec: it's evil!04:45
SpecOoo?04:45
naliothSpec: yes, but you need the brainwave reciever on the box for it to work04:45
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Specoo.org?04:45
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kbrooksopenoffice.org04:45
maxy_nooblOL, evil?04:45
Specnalioth: luckily i have one04:45
naliothmaxy_noob: let's hope it doesnt become oOouch04:45
Specmaxy_noob: which version of Ooo are you referring to?04:45
kbrooksmaxy_noob, java can shit on me!04:46
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kbrooksmaxy_noob, i hate it! i want it open source!04:46
SpecI only have 1.1.2; I feel outdated and inferior04:46
bigfoot1hello everyone. has anyone heard of Gizmo, from the maker of sipphone?04:46
mannycok...i give up...the what do i do with the gtkrc file from the gperfection gtk-2.0 theme available here: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2356304:46
Poromieshopefully not, java-shit sure sounds like a bad cup of coffee :|04:46
maxy_noob1.9 milestone?04:46
kbrooks2 minutes04:47
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XandriXis there a fluxbox package for ubuntu ?04:47
kbrooksXandriX, i think so04:47
kbrookstry grabbing it04:47
bigfoot1Well Gizmo allows you to make free calls to other Gizmo users, (just as skype allows users to call other skypers). But Gizmo's advantage is that it allows you to phone USA/Canada toll-free numbers. This is good for those of us not in USA/Canada.04:47
naliothXandriX: yes there is04:47
bigfoot1But Gizmo is only for Windows at the moment.04:47
bigfoot1Can we somehow make Gizmo work in Ubuntu?04:47
kbrookswe? who04:47
Specbigfoot1: wine04:47
Tomiare there anything like packages.debian.org at ubuntulinux.org?04:48
kbrookscrossover office04:48
Specbigfoot1: or whine to the developers of gizmo04:48
naliothmannyc: i'd read the readme in the theme package for instructions04:48
bigfoot1spec, will it work with wine?04:48
naliothTomi: packages.ubuntu.com04:48
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Specbigfoot1: i'm not sure, i've never heard of it, you can try and find out04:48
kbrooksbigfoot1, depends04:48
Tominalioth: ok, im blind :)04:48
bigfoot1Spec,  gizmo developers wil have a linux version soon.04:48
naliothbigfoot1: that will be an exercise for you04:48
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Specah04:48
bigfoot1kbrooks, depends on what?04:48
Specpatiences or try crossover or wine or winex or ...04:48
XandriXhow do i update my package list again ?04:48
jeroen_XandriX, apt-get update04:49
goldfishapt-get update04:49
mannycnalioth...the only thing in the theme package is the gtkrc file04:49
XandriXthx04:49
bigfoot1Spec,  what's the diff between these programs you mentioned?04:49
kbrooksbigfoot1, capabilty of dling dlls04:49
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naliothmannyc: open it in a text editor and read what it says04:49
Speccrossover costs money, winex costs money, wine is free04:49
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kbrookscedega-cvs!04:49
kbrooks:P04:49
bigfoot1kbrooks, whics can do that?04:49
Specwhat's cedega?04:49
jeroen_Spec, non-free wine04:50
jeroen_for games04:50
Specis cedega winex?04:50
mannycnaloth: the first line is: style "clearlooks-default"04:50
bigfoot1spec, or... what?04:50
naliothSpec: commercial name of winex04:50
Specah, okay04:50
jeroen_Spec, I think it is04:50
Specright then, cedega, wine, or crossover :p04:50
naliothmannyc: is all this expanded into a folder?04:50
Specor qemu+windows04:50
mannycis what expanded?04:50
naliothmannyc: your icons, bkgrds, etc?04:50
mannycthe archive?04:50
bigfoot1why can't they make crossover or cedega free?04:50
bigfoot1I thought everything in linux was free?04:50
Specbecause they're bastards04:51
naliothmannyc: yes the archive04:51
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jeroen_bigfoot1, because they're lame04:51
naliothbigfoot1: most things04:51
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bloodlustwhats up al04:51
bloodlusts;;04:51
kbrooksbigfoot1, not every program is free04:51
jeroen_bigfoot1, the good things are free as in speech and free as in beer ;-)04:51
SpecI can write a program that runs in linux and charge you for it, pretty easily04:51
jeroen_*programs04:51
mannycnalioth: 23563-Clearlooks-gperfection2.tar.bz2 is the filename.04:51
Specit's just i'd rather not04:51
naliothmannyc: open your system > preferences > themes and do the 'add theme' thing04:51
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bloodlusti'm new to ubuntu just tryin to figure out a way to rip dvd's? i have dvd rip and it's not working for me04:51
kbrooksbigfoot1, define 'free'. the 'free' is ambigous. try 'open source'04:51
bloodlustany suggestions?04:51
naliothmannyc: point it at the folder that bz2 expanded into04:51
mannycnalioth: did that...i get ugly rugged look...not in keeping with screenshoot on gnome-looks.org04:52
bigfoot1jeroen_, are you saying there's something better than cedega and crossover?04:52
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mjrwell, the crossover people aren't really bastards, most of their work does go into the free wine04:52
kbrooksambiguous*04:52
mjrnow, the cedega people... ;)04:52
bigfoot1kbrooks, when i say free now, i mean it costs no money.04:52
naliothmannyc: ah, well then i'm not sure04:52
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naliothbloodlust: define "rip"04:52
sinfernowhats is the line i put in the desktop grab screensavers in order to make them work?04:52
kbrooksbigfoot1, well, the source code is important to get at04:52
jeroen_bigfoot1, no, I'm saying Cedega and crossover suck because they're non-free04:52
sinfernothey are all -root and its a stupid picture instead of my desktop04:52
kbrooksnon free as in not open source, just to be clear04:53
naliothbigfoot1: to me "free" means i can open the source code, rewrite it and not go to jail04:53
bloodlustnalioth --- i'm trying to put dvd's on my hd04:53
bigfoot1what's the best no-money-attached program for running windows programs?04:53
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bigfoot1nalioth, oh, you must be a programmer.04:53
naliothbloodlust: you can use k3b to make an image04:53
bloodlustgot a package called dvdrip04:53
kbrooksbigfoot1,04:53
kbrooksuh04:53
kbrooksqemu04:53
naliothbigfoot1: wine04:53
sinfernou can get cedega... w/o paying04:53
bloodlustwine04:53
sinfernobt 4 the win04:53
bloodlusti installed wine04:53
naliothbigfoot1: no, just a user04:53
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kbrookssinferno, cedega-cvs04:53
bloodlustany perfered programs once wine is installed?04:54
syloneHi@all. I have a very dummy question. Where can i change the default boot order in ubuntu?04:54
naliothbloodlust: dvd::rip is to rip dvd vobs into mpeg/divx/etc04:54
syloneI cant find the grub.conf04:54
sinfernokbrooks, what?04:54
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jeroen_kbrooks, open-source is different from free04:54
mannycnalioth: thanks...will look into it04:54
jeroen_it's an important difference04:54
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sinfernowhats is the line i put in the desktop grab screensavers in order to make them work?04:54
kbrooksfree as in speech == open source04:54
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bloodlustnalioth --- thats the dir? im getting an error that it cant create a dir, and it won't let me "pre" create the folder in the dir before so04:55
kbrooksfree as in beer not speech == non-free04:55
kbrooksthere.04:55
sinfernoits on display -root04:55
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kbrooksi'll admit, i dont like the ambiguity of 'Free'.04:55
sproingiethus "open source"04:56
kbrooksyes04:56
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sproingiea term dating back from "open systems".  probably not the world's best term, but it's adequate04:57
kbrooksthat old?04:57
sproingieprobably not04:57
sproingiemaybe "harkening back" is a better phrase04:57
bash^^hey all04:57
jeroen_Free software stand for the philosophy04:57
kbrookslol04:57
jeroen_open-source is just lame04:57
kbrooksi almost slept04:58
sproingieyeah whatever.  everyone's a freakin pundit04:58
kbrooksjeroen_, the philosophy, not the word, right?04:58
bash^^any one know how i can convert a kspread doc to openoffice??04:58
fayahi there04:58
bash^^sup faya04:58
kbrooksgad04:59
kbrooksxsane-common is fricking slow04:59
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kbrooksso.....05:01
bash^^or will koffice run in ubuntu05:01
fayaof course it will05:01
sproingieruns fine.  install kde.05:01
kbrooksbash^^, it will. just use apt or synaptic05:01
kbrookssproingie, s/kde/kdelibs05:01
kbrookssproingie, kde is just kdelibs and kdebins.05:02
sproingiekbrooks: true, one probably doesn't need kdegames05:02
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jeroen_open-source is lame because it has nothing to do with protecting your freedom, and the word is lame because software with 'open' sourcecode can still be non-free05:02
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bash^^ty, ttyl05:02
bloodlustalright05:02
sproingiejeroen_: i could point out a few other things i perceive as lame at this moment05:02
bloodlustwill someone please walk me through this05:02
bloodlustjust so i know i get it right05:02
bloodlustwith dvdrip05:02
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jeroen_sproingie, go ahead05:03
bloodlusti just start a new project05:03
sproingiejeroen_: i'll spare the channel05:03
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kbrooksbloodlust, what us it?05:03
sproingieand myself05:03
kbrooksis*05:03
bloodlustfor rippin dvd's05:03
kbrookssproingie, feel free to pm me those05:04
bloodlusti need to start rippin my dvd's cuz im off all this week from work05:04
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syloneCan anyone help me about the grub bootloader?05:04
kbrookso05:04
bloodlustso i gotta learn to use the program05:04
kbrookssylone, ask05:04
bloodlusti keep gettin an error so i figured i was doing something wrong05:04
jeroen_sylone, what's the problem05:04
sylonekbrooks: Where can i change the boot order in grib?05:04
sylonegrub05:04
bloodlustwas going to see if someone would walk me through it05:04
syloneI cant find the grub.conf05:04
kbrookssylone, boot order?05:04
jeroen_sylone, /boot/grub/menu.list05:04
sylonesorry about the stupid question05:04
sproingiesylone: just rearrange the menu options.  it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:04
kbrooks:|05:04
bloodlustsomebody told me earlir to use a diff dir05:05
bloodlustfor vob and avi dir's05:05
syloneAhhhhhhhhhhh, in "/boot/"05:05
syloneI have searched in "/etc/"05:05
jeroen_sylone, it's not stupid. In the next release (Breezy Badger) ther will be a new administration item, 'boot', for these things05:05
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sproingiesylone: that's a sensible place, but since it's a bootloader it wants to keep it it in /boot05:05
jeroen_sylone, you could've searched for 'grub' in /05:05
apackwhen i'm running a ping cmd, it just keeps on going for ever. How can i stop it without closing the terminal-window?05:06
jeroen_apack, ctrl-c05:06
bloodlustcan anyone with experience in ripping dvds to hd in ubuntu please help me???05:06
sproingiei think 'man grub' will tell you too05:06
apackjeroen_ thanks :(05:06
sproingieoh indeed it doesn't05:06
syloneI think all configuration files are unter "/etc"05:06
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sproingieit's one of those craptastic "we hate man, read the info page" man pages05:06
kbrookssylone, not all of them!05:06
syloneThanks05:06
jeroen_sylone, boot is special ;-)05:06
syloneIs that different to debian?05:07
kbrooksNo05:07
sproingieit's a grub thing05:07
syloneOk05:07
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sproingiethe /boot partition is the only one grub is guaranteed to be able to read05:07
kbrookswhoa05:07
kbrooksi think i'll restart GNOME05:07
kbrooksand see hoary ;)05:07
bloodlusthere is why i am having a problem05:08
sproingiein my case, it actually is the only partition grub can read05:08
kbrooksbtw, ctrl+alt+backspace05:08
sproingiethe rest is xfs.  which newer grubs can read, but not the one hoary installed05:08
bloodlustwhen i go to the "RIP Title Tab" I get this eror05:08
bloodlustAn internal exception was thrown!05:08
bloodlustThe error message was:05:08
bloodlustmkdir /usr/share/perl5/video: Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/video/dvdrip/project.pm line05:09
bloodlustany idea why im getting his error?05:09
six2onerun it from command line with sudo05:09
jeroen_bloodlust, you do not have write permissions for /usr/share/perl5/video, it seems05:09
bloodlustits drinving me nuts05:09
jeroen_sudo it05:09
bloodlustcan you give me a command to throw into terminal fo rit05:10
jeroen_(or gksudo)05:10
bloodlustim a little new to ubuntu05:10
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kbrookshey05:10
SpecialBuddyhow do I uninstall wine from source05:10
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jeroen_sudo commandyouwanttorun, bloodlust05:10
syloneIs "apt" the same as in debian?05:10
six2onewhats the prog name?05:10
kbrooksback in teh hoary05:10
kbrookssylone, yes05:10
jeroen_sylone, yes05:10
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bloodlustwhats the command to share that dir?05:10
syloneSo, can i use each apt-source?05:10
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kbrookssylone, yes05:10
syloneWhich should i use for stable software?05:10
kbrooksapt-get05:11
dqsfI'm trying to install a pinnacle pctv rave pci card on ubuntu05:11
syloneAt the moment, i would like "joe" to install05:11
dqsfcan anybody help me?05:11
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jeroen_sylone, you mean which repositories are stable?05:11
jeroen_Hoary05:11
bloodlustsoo i type "sudo" then what is the command to share a dir05:11
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sylonejeroen_: I mean, which apt source should i insert in the apt-conf to install "joe"05:12
six2oneare you in hoary?05:12
SpecialBuddyhow do I uninstall steam from a console05:12
bloodlusti am in hoary05:12
jeroen_sylone, depends whether joe is in main or universe05:12
kbrookslol05:12
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six2onesystem --> administration --> shared folders05:12
kbrooksopen source rules05:12
sylonejeroen_: I think it is in main05:13
six2onethats an easy way for you to do it05:13
six2onethen just locate the folder05:13
kbrooksowwww05:13
jeroen_sylone, no it's not, it's in universe05:13
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six2oneyou need to install samba or nfs if you havent alrwady05:13
bloodlustsix2one05:13
sylonejeroen_: Oh, ok. How do you find that out?05:13
bloodlustright on lemme try that right quick05:13
PinnacleHow do I start installing pinnacle pctv rave?05:13
bloodlustI have no sharing services installed05:14
jeroen_sylone, http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:14
six2oneapt-get update05:14
bloodlustYou need to install at least either Samba or NFS in order to share your folders. The tool will close now.05:14
six2oneapt-get install samba05:14
apackCan i run the "Ubuntu update-manager" from terminal? something lige usr/bin/update-manager ?05:14
six2oneor just look in synaptic05:14
jeroen_apack, sudo update-manager05:14
naliothbloodlust: do you have windows boxes present on your network?05:14
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six2oneyes05:15
bloodlustnalioth no05:15
apacksudo?05:15
naliothapack: yes, its called "apt-get"05:15
naliothbloodlust: you are asking about sharing folders?05:15
jeroen_apack, yes, 'superuser do'05:15
bloodlustyeah05:15
bloodlusti don't want to share anything over the network05:15
nalioths_dogapack: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:15
bloodlustdvdrip needs to be a shared folder in order to rip to it05:16
bloodlustdoes that make any sence05:16
bloodlust?05:16
Ralcwhy do i get a blank/black screen when i try to install ubuntu????05:16
bloodlustmind you this is not on a network05:16
naliothbloodlust: ah, then you need to chmod it to "all users"05:16
six2oneooo...u just need permission to read and write05:16
sylonejeroen_: Thank you. Greate.05:16
inemobugger, someone already did my idea - http://hackaday.com/entry/1234000273048633/05:16
bloodlustnalioth excelent --- how do i do this?05:16
apackwill do05:16
kbrookschmod a+rw file05:16
PinnacleCan anybody give a little explaination about tv tuners to a new linux user?05:16
sylonejeroen_: And not i must insert a new source in my sources.list?05:17
jeroen_sylone, yes05:17
naliothusers: when you speak to someone in here, please preface their nicks so they know they are being addressed05:17
Ralcwhy do i get a blank/black screen when i try to install ubuntu???? i inserted the boot cd, pressed enter and BLANK screen... what?05:17
bloodlustnalioth --- chmod??05:17
jeroen_sylone, just add universe after main and restricted05:17
naliothPinnacle: they work the same on windows as on linux05:17
jeroen_and if you want to be completely free, remove restricted05:17
Pinnaclenalioth: I don't know how to get my pinnacle to work with ubuntu05:18
naliothbloodlust: in the gui, you can right click and set permissions05:18
sylonejeroen_: Thank you. You are a great help for me!05:18
Pinnaclenalioth: what can i do to test?05:18
naliothbloodlust: under 'properties'05:18
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naliothPinnacle: open synaptic and search for "tuner" in 'pkg name" or "tv tuner" in 'pkg contents"05:19
kbrooksnow to restart X!05:19
Ralcwhy do i get a blank/black screen when i try to install ubuntu???? i inserted the boot cd, pressed enter and BLANK screen... what?05:20
Pinnaclenalioth: You want me to install a tv tuner program? Is tvtime any good?05:20
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jeroen_Pinnacle, tvtime is nice05:20
naliothPinnacle: i have no idea, but there are tvtuner programs available05:20
jeroen_Pinnacle, windowed05:20
naliothRalc: do you have a ubuntu LiveCD?05:21
DAWKIRSTGreetings. I seem to have some probles with my Java envoirment and other Mozilla Firefox plugins...Any suggestions? I tried synaptic until my ears flowed...05:21
deviosI set my printer settings to use 'letter' and it keeps printing A4.05:21
nalioths_dogDAWKIRST: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:21
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Pinnaclejeroen_ : I have tvtime loaded by it keeps saying 'no signal'05:21
Ralcnalioth no05:21
jeroen_Pinnacle, scroll05:21
Pinnaclejeroen_ : is there anything i must configure?05:21
naliothRalc: when you restart the installer, there is an option for help05:22
jeroen_Pinnacle, try scrolling with your mousewheel05:22
naliothRalc: it will show you differnt parameters to pass to the kernel05:22
steve-0Men(and ladies ofcuz) I just wanted to tell you about this great res. http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ ... I'm newbie to UBUNTU, and this site helps me alot ! :)))05:22
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DAWKIRSTnalioths_dog: thanks, but you'll have to slow down there. I'm only on Linux for 21 days now...05:22
Ralcnalioth yes and what then?05:22
Pinnaclejeroen_ "cannot open capture device /dev/video0"05:22
nalioths_dogsteve-0: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines05:23
bloodlustnalioth --- i dont understand i see where the "share folder is when right clicked" however i dont' ahve samba installed insn't this a permission issue?05:23
jasoncohensteve-0, the problem is that ubuntuguide tells you what to do but not why you are doing it- and some of their suggestions aren't that great05:23
jeroen_steve-0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines read number 305:23
jeroen_Pinnacle, that's not good, I guess05:23
johi,i would like to ask if somebode new program which can edit all menu not only application e.g smeg05:23
naliothbloodlust: when you right click, its 'properties' and 'permissions' i believe05:23
Pinnaclejeroen_ guess not. What can I do to configure the card?05:23
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naliothis someone familiar with x86 installer boot time options?05:24
jasoncohensteve-0, it can be useful but as the wiki says it's merely a list of useful commands without any explanation of why you would want to use them05:24
naliothcan that someone help Ralc ?05:24
jasoncohensteve-0, for example it tells you how to enable the root account without explaining the reasons for doing this or the consequences05:24
jeroen_Pinnacle, my pci-tv card just worked05:24
naliothDAWKIRST: the instructions from the dog have no time limit05:24
bloodlustnalioth --- when under the permissions tab it says at the bottom "You are not the owner , so you can't change these permissions"05:24
Pinnacleanybody else who knows how to install a Pinnacle tv tuner in ubuntu?05:25
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steve-0hmmm , sorry , i never mentioned about WIKI ... im new to wiki ;-)  Sorry about my post ,  I will never recommend it at all  !05:25
naliothbloodlust: ah, you are not sharing one of your own folders?05:25
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DAWKIRSTnalioth, meaning!? I'm lost. Have patience please.05:25
joanyone knows names of programs to edit menu in gnome05:25
inemoDAWKIRST: the dog is a bot, it just returns things with no speed slowdown on it05:25
jeroen_jo, smeg05:26
Pinnaclejo smeg05:26
Specjo, vim, gedit, kedit, nano05:26
naliothDAWKIRST: nalioths_dog sent you some instructions for installing java the correct way05:26
bloodlusti have to share my own folders??? im not on a network or is ubuntu just a little different (sorry for my ignorance in new to linux)05:26
naliothDAWKIRST: take you time with the inst, ask questions05:26
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jobut i want to edit all menu not anly application so smeg is not ok05:26
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bloodlustnalioth -- does that mean i need to install samba?05:27
naliothbloodlust: samba is a windows crutch, you only need to change permissions on the folder in question05:27
naliothwhat are the chmod command for "allow all users"? send answer to bloodlust05:28
jojeroen ,pinnacle do you know other programs to edit menu ?05:28
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Pinnaclenalioth: my tv tuner tells me there is no dev/video0 . What am i doing wrong?05:28
jasoncohenanyone know why hoary's mozilla and warty's firefox/mozilla haven't been patched for the latest round of security updates (firefox 1.0.4/mozilla 1.7.8)?05:28
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six2oneis it just "you" who needs the files05:29
six2one?05:29
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jeroen_jasoncohen, it has been, but the version number hasn't been bumped05:29
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naliothPinnacle: i'm not sure on video stuff, have you searched the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com05:29
DAWKIRSTIs there anyway I can sort the channel list on X-Chat?05:29
naliothjasoncohen: firefox has been patched05:29
DemitarDAWKIRST, Alt-leftarrow/rightarrow.05:30
jasoncohenjeroen_, no- it hasn't - read the note - https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-134-105:30
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bloodlustnalioth --- it wont' let me change permissions it says im not the owner , and i canot change these permissions05:30
XandriXapt-get install what is the pakcage for kernel headers and source05:30
jasoncohennalioth, not on warty05:30
XandriXwell headers for /usr/src/linux/include05:30
PMantisI have a Kanotix key problem.05:30
six2oneare u using sudo?05:30
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PMantisW: GPG error: http://kanotix.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FB1A399A71409CDF05:30
DAWKIRSTty Demitar.05:30
jeroen_jasoncohen, if it hasn't file a bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/05:30
naliothbloodlust: give me a minute, please, we'll get you fixed up05:31
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PMantisI ran: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 71409CDF05:31
naliothjasoncohen: ah correct05:31
PMantisStill no help. Can anyone help with keys ?05:31
jasoncohennalioth, i'm a bit surprised that they haven't patched warty's firefox yet. it's been over a month and a half since 1.0.4 came out and firefox has got to be one of the most used applications05:31
bloodlustwhen i typed   apt-get update      in terminal this is the error i got    E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )E: Unable to lock the list directory05:31
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XandriXfound it hehe05:31
jasoncohenmozilla is a bit deprecated at this point05:31
naliothPMantis: is said the pub key wasnt availabe05:31
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naliothPMantis: there is no help, there is no pub key05:32
nalioths_dogbloodlust: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:32
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bloodlustnalioths_dog -- is there a prob with my os?05:32
six2oneno05:32
PMantisnalioth, I was just directed by #kanotix to import the key... gpg downloaded it, and imported it. but apt doesn't see it. Or, do I need a reality check?05:32
naliothbloodlust: nope, just your education05:32
bloodlusthahahaha05:33
bloodlustvery true05:33
naliothPMantis: what you describe happens frequently, i wouldn't worry about it unless you are working on government jobs05:33
bloodlustplus im pretty stoned soo im movin slow05:33
six2oneis it just your user who needs full control (god, i hate windows...sorry for that) of the directory?05:33
Ralcdoesnt ubuntu need a boot partition?!?05:33
kbrookslol05:33
kbrooksRalc, no05:33
naliothsix2one: bloodlust needs a "all users" setting on a folder05:33
kbrooksRalc, it's pretty rare05:34
Ralckbrooks, kewl05:34
naliothRalc: no, but you can have one if you wish05:34
jasoncohennalioth, firefox even has an open bug from firefox 1.0.1 - see https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467905:34
Ralcnah i dont mind i just found it strange, nalioth :)05:34
naliothjasoncohen: how many users are on warty percentage wise?05:34
six2onechmod 007 "directory"?05:34
six2oneis that it?05:34
naliothRalc: linux is free and open05:34
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DAWKIRSTOhkay, anyone knows a freeware Linux equivalent to Reactor, or FrootlyLoops?05:34
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naliothbloodlust: six2one is speaking to you05:34
jasoncohennalioth, i guess it pays to upgrade to the latest stable release. it simply becomes too difficult to backport security fixes on mozilla/firefox. the debian security team just gave up on mozilla 1.0 (3 years old!!!)05:34
PMantisnalioth, Ok, I'm missing something here, then... I simply cannot install some packages I want to - not available05:35
jasoncohennalioth, no clue- i suppose the best way was to see many people are still downloading warty-updates & warty-security fixes05:35
naliothRalc: some users have a partition for /boot, /home /usr (they just go nuts with it)05:35
naliothPMantis: what are you after?05:35
bloodlustsix2one --- chmod 007 i dont think so05:35
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naliothbloodlust: "sudo chmod 0000 foldername"05:36
Ralcnalioth, im a newb so i just go with the standard settings05:36
PMantisnalioth, apt-get install freenx=0.3.1-305:36
bloodlustsix2one --- im having permission problems all of a sudden i have used update before05:36
rasputniknalioth: don't you need an ext2/3 /boot if you want LVM on your root? or does grub support LVM now?05:36
bloodlustright on05:36
jasoncohennalioth, but security support is supposed to last 18 months. and for the most part warty is getting all the same security updates as hoary- but both debian and ubuntu fall short when it comes to backporting fixes for mozilla/firefox - i think it's just very difficult05:36
naliothRalc: that is best, until you learn what would serve you best05:36
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jasoncohennalioth, that might be a good reason to simple include the new upstream version rather than backport for firefox/mozilla05:36
naliothrasputnik: sorry i have no clue what LVM is05:36
PMantisnalioth, I have to step down in versions, because of this:  nxproxy: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed05:37
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kbrooksheh05:37
kbrooksi like cogeco.05:37
rasputniknalioth: logical volume management - sort of 'super raid' - the warty installer offers it as an option along with software raid05:37
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jasoncohennalioth, linux volume management - allows for file systems spanning multiple physical disks and physical volumens05:37
jasoncohen*logical volume management05:37
naliothrasputnik: i have very little raid knowledge05:37
rasputniknalioth: that's why you don't see the point of a /boot :)05:38
naliothi'm just a simple user, i'm afraid05:38
jasoncohennalioth, i have my root FS on an LVM using two physical volumes seperated from each other- i also have a 450 GB LVM partition spanning 4 HDs- LVM is quite powerful05:38
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naliothrasputnik: i can name a few points for having a /boot partition, but for most users it's not  necessary05:38
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kbrooksnalioth, what are the points?05:39
marta_lokawenas!05:39
naliothjasoncohen: rasputnik: im sure LVM is great, and works well, i'm just not a 'power-user' of that class05:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow i just read an awsome review if ubuntu05:39
bloodlustdamn05:39
marta_lokawow ol are you?05:39
bloodlusti cant even read the dir05:39
jasoncohennalioth, it's not hard to use. i set it up in the hoary installer05:39
naliothkbrooks: /boot on a seperate partition keeps 'accidents' from happening05:39
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six2onehey bloodlust05:40
SS2hi guys05:40
six2onei figured it out on my system05:40
naliothjasoncohen: i'm sure it's not, i just dont have 1.5tb of HD mountable atm05:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.reviewlinux.com/articles/8/1/Ubuntu---A-New-Approach-to-Desktop-Linux05:40
SS2ehm, how come i cant do quick replys? (new on ubuntuforums)05:40
naliothbloodlust: did you read that sudo URL the dog sent you?05:41
Ralcdoes gnome or kde come with ubuntu?05:42
jasoncohennalioth, sometimes it's not about size- but location. i didn't want to wipe my old /home so i just took two partitions (with /home in the middle), made them physical volumes and created an LVM with both to act as one root partition. this was on a 30 GB laptop HD05:42
darkRalc: gnome05:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYany idea why ubuntu won't copy all of the files i want it too?05:42
naliothjasoncohen: rasputnik: thanks for pointing that out to me, i'll keep it in mind for my future macintosh (ab)usage05:42
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: because you didnt ask it correctly?05:43
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: because some are in use?05:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYall of them are storage files05:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYnone arein use05:43
blueyedWhat is a good, basic image editor? Like Irfanview for win32..05:43
Blue_Summerlo all, how is everyone?05:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYit copys the direcotry structure but not all the "inside" files05:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYfrom one deive to another05:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdrive even05:44
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open the term and look at "man cp"05:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk05:44
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blueyedhow do you copy them?05:44
RalcRebooting your new Ubuntu System :D love that05:44
Scroopyhey does anyone know if there is a Netlimiter equivalent for Linux?05:45
naliothblueyed: copy what?05:45
naliothScroopy: to limit bandwidth?05:45
eriktownQuestion: I installed Ubuntu on my laptop yesterday. Everything was working fine. I powered it down a couple of times and powered it back up again, and all was well. But this morning I booted back up again and X won't start, and a huge number of modules appear to have failed to load. any thoughts on why that might have happened?05:45
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blueyednalioth, I meant ChurcH_of_FoamY.05:45
Scroopyyeah05:45
Scroopyto limit the bandwidth05:45
naliothblueyed: church is learning atm05:45
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naliothScroopy: yes there are, but i dont know the names of them05:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to gopy a 34 gig STORAGE folder to a new hard drive i installed to conatian the data05:46
Scroopyok, ill just hunt for them sometime, just good to know they are there05:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYhdb1 is the new drive05:46
blueyedNo image viewer/basic editor suggestions?05:46
naliothScroopy: you can search packages.ubuntu.com05:46
naliothblueyed: that is a very good question05:46
eriktownblueyed: imagemagick iirc was decent05:46
naliotheriktown: for editing?05:46
Scroopythanks05:46
rasputniknalioth: it's not for 'power users', it's for 'i can't say in advance that this partition will never need to be more than 40 gb' users :)05:46
apackdoes Mirc run on linux systems ?05:47
naliothrasputnik: as i said, thanks for enlightening me to that05:47
naliothapack: under Wine05:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYhm that isen't what i was quite looking for05:47
naliothapack: try xchat instead05:47
rasputniknalioth: sorry, i'm speed scrolling down the screen, missed that05:47
AlbarahaFirefox was messed :/. nothing appears in [Code] [/Code]  in the forums and nothing appears in Source Code window05:47
Scroopydoes anyone know how to get my microsoft mouse back n forward buttons working?05:47
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you are looking for "cp -r /source /target05:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok05:48
Ralcwhat is python?05:48
apacksince i started using linux about 30mins ago, i dont know what "Wine" is :(05:48
rasputnikRalc: programming language05:48
kbrooksRalc, ask #python05:48
kbrooks:)05:48
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: the -r means05:48
goldfishapack: It's an emulator which allows you to run windows programs on linux.05:48
Ralcokay thanks :)05:48
apackoh, okay then05:49
naliothapack: try xchat05:49
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rasputnikapack: if you want to run all the same programs as on windows , you might as well run windows05:49
naliothapack: there are very few things on windows that you cannot find equivelants on linux05:50
six2onei just use qemu to run windows so i can walk people at work through stuff05:50
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apackrasputnik: it is only mirc... so that i can idle on this channel in case of "need help"05:50
naliothsix2one: qemu roX0rs05:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth how to switch to the files in another hard drive?05:51
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: use the cp command05:51
maxy_noobI've followed directions for installing themes on art.gnome.org but I keep getting error messages. Is there a special procedure of installing themes in ubuntu?05:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYk05:51
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: or use nautilus and drag and drop05:51
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six2onenalioth: yeah it does, i have 2003, xp, 2000, and 98 installed05:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to start nautulus?05:52
naliothsix2one: esp if you have a nice new ripsnorter of a box (with lots of wasted cycles)05:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat seems easyer to me05:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you are looking at it05:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: Applications > system tools > file mangler05:52
maxy_noobI extract a .tar.gz to my desktop. Then I tried to navigate to those folders but no go05:52
cmathesonmaxy_noob: no, but my friend was telling me about some rad gnome-art app that installs everything for you05:52
maxy_noobhmmm05:53
six2onenalioth: haha, u get win update to work yet? i found a command to run but i havent tried yer05:53
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naliothsix2one: i run macintosh hardware, i'd love to end up famous for getting win to run here on qemu05:53
holycowmornin05:54
inemomacs r0ck!!05:54
inemo:|05:54
maxy_noobcmatheson, any idea where I can get it? I tried googling it but google seems to be down or something.05:54
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rasputnikapack: as others said, use xchat. linux has a bazillion irc clients, but that should be pre-installed. it's a lot less bother than mucking about with wine05:54
redtechgoogle doesnt do 'down'05:55
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six2onenalioth: i REALLY want to run OSX on my thinkpad...lol....i am wayching qemu pretty close and i hope thats in the near future05:55
deviosI configured my network hp laserjet 5 and it's working,but it keeps printing A4 instead of letter.05:55
naliothsix2one: i think you need PPC hardware05:55
goldfishIRSSI !!!05:55
inemoredtech: google isn't down05:55
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cmathesonmaxy_noob: i'm pretty sure you can just apt-get it05:55
redtechinemo: didnt say it was05:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow 32.2 gigs i have to transfer O_o05:56
eriktownno one has any thoughts on why my install failed to load modules after powering down overnight?05:56
inemouh, sorry redtech, meant to send to maxy_boob05:56
six2onenalioth: they are working on the emulator, i think someone got the first osx 10 to isntall05:56
inemos/boob/noob05:56
redtech; )05:56
naliothsix2one: you mean OSXintel, ok05:56
DAWKIRSTeriktown, did your internet connection perhaps failed?05:56
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six2oneif it failed he couldnt be here05:57
six2onelol05:57
rasputniksix2one, nalioth : have either of you tried pearpc yet?05:57
eriktownheh, no, my ubuntu box is going through the same hub as this machine05:57
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eriktownand modules should be able to load even if there's no net connection05:58
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six2onerasputnik: i was looking into that...u try it yet?05:58
naliothrasputnik: i run on apple hardware already05:58
rasputniksix2one: keep meaning too, but get distracted. By stuff like ubuntu05:58
rasputniknalioth: oh right - you want the other way round then.05:59
apackrasputnik: im now on xchats homepage, ready to download. But there are several files, all named xchat, but with a "lastname" like perl, python, i568 and src. What should i download05:59
naliothrasputnik: and according to current news from pearpc, i'd need a cluster of dual-core athlon64s to get any speed out of it05:59
naliothapack: don't download05:59
six2onerasputnik, nalioth: i got a dual 450 g4 for 175.00 at the mi state surplus store with no mem or hd....i want to get that goin with some ppc version of linux06:00
naliothapack: are you using linux right now?06:00
apackoh!06:00
rasputnikapack: isn't it in your gnome menu, under internet?06:00
apackthis pc is running, but the one next to me is running Linux :)06:00
naliothsix2one: ubuntu will work fine, once you replace the HD/ram06:00
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naliothsix2one: keyword on ram >>>>LOTS06:00
apackthis pc is running windows, but the one next to me is running Linux :)06:00
six2onenalioth: thats just it..its kinda picky about memory06:01
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rasputniknalioth: hmm possibly yeah. handily enough apple have saved you the trouble..... does bochs (bochs.sf.net) run on OSX? it's slow but ok.06:01
naliothapack: ubuntu linux? if so, xchat is installed under applications > internet06:01
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naliothsix2one: it's not picky, it only wants the BEST06:01
naliothrasputnik: bochs runs on anything06:02
apackim running ubuntu yes... okay, i'll look in to it..06:02
rasputnikapack: if it's not there, open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get install xchat'.06:02
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philippehi06:02
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naliothrasputnik: watch this:06:03
nalioth!info xchat hoary06:03
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB06:03
Blue_Summerbrb06:03
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Eddiehi everyone06:03
jasoncohenrasputnik, xchat should be installed with ubuntu. it's a part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package06:03
naliothoptional my butt. its default with ubuntu-desktop06:03
apack_linuxwee :)06:04
Eddiewould ubuntu have the ability to run in a boiled down mode06:04
Eddiefor a p200?06:04
apackwee^206:04
Eddiesetting up a server06:04
jasoncohenEddie, yeah, type server at the install prompt06:04
DaveyEddie: try the server install06:04
naliothEddie: yes, do  server install and then if you have to have a gui, use a lightweight one06:04
jasoncohenEddie, it'll install ubuntu-base which is much smaller06:04
Eddiethanks guys!06:04
Eddieanyways need this monitor for the p20006:04
Eddiebbiaf06:04
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jasoncohenapack, you might want to do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-base" to make sure you have everything installed that you should. xchat should be there06:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think autoskip was a bad idea to use >.<06:06
Mestaphelesany XFS buffs in?  I know HFS+ support comes with ubuntu.  Does installing ubuntu with XFS retain HFS+ support?06:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause now i can't tell whats being copyd and wahts not06:07
naliothMestapheles: linux can read/write to most anything but ntfs06:07
jasoncohenMestapheles, ubuntu supports XFS06:07
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: del the folder you are copying too and start over if you want to know for sure (and read the cp man page)06:07
Mestaphelesso HFS+ suppport is not fs dependent?06:07
naliothMestapheles: no it is not06:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk06:08
Mestaphelesgreat06:08
Eddieoops06:08
naliothMestapheles: you can mount and read any file system taht i know of (can't write to NTFS)06:08
Eddiefallen at the first hurdle06:08
apack_linuxjasoncohen, its all up to date :)06:08
Eddieis there any way to wipe a bios password06:08
Eddieother than that uv light method06:08
Ralchahaha i quite like ubuntu06:08
MestaphelesIs it "expert mode" that I need for XFS install?06:08
Ralcnice distro06:08
MestaphelesOr does the d-i allow for this in manual partitioning?06:08
jasoncohenapack, so, now you have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base installed?06:09
cmathesonMestapheles: you can do it w/ the normal install, just make sure to set your partition type06:09
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jasoncohenMestapheles, XFS is supported in the manual partitioning mode06:09
apack_linuxjasoncohen, yea :)06:09
jasoncohenas is JFS, reiserfs, ext3 etc i believe06:09
apack_linuxi did a update just 15mins ago06:10
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's weard what would cause it to want to skip about 20gigs of files?06:10
Mestaphelesdoes the d-i now provide a multi-user partiting scheme as debian's?06:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike dvd images and video as well as some programs and songs06:10
jasoncohenMestapheles, why are you using XFS? i use it on my mythtv backend because it supports fast deletes of files that are huge (10 GBs)06:10
cmathesonMestapheles: what is a multi-user partitioning scheme?06:10
apack_linuxjasoncohen, should i do anything now then ?06:10
jasoncohenMestapheles, ubuntu's installer basically is a modified version of sarge's installer06:11
naliothapack_linux: enjoy your linux06:11
jasoncohenapack, so, you have everything you want? just run update manager and make sure you have security updates installed06:11
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jasoncohenapack, system > administration > update manger - hit reload06:11
apack_linuxjasoncohen, already done06:11
apack_linux:)06:11
jasoncohenyou're done06:12
Mestaphelessarge's multuser option allow for more than just the swap and the rest in /06:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso i breezy ready for use yet or no?06:12
DAWKIRSTWhen I open my synaptic up, I get this error message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:12
patrickyoungj06:12
DAWKIRSTAny ideas how to fix this?06:13
jasoncohenapack_linux, you should probably have it check for updates automatically. click settings from the update manager and then choose preferences. then select "automatically check for software updates" every 1 days06:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: no06:13
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Blue_SummerCan i get Breezy without having to delete all my packages e.t.c on Hoary?06:13
jasoncohenChurcH_of_FoamY, absolutely note06:13
jasoncohen*not06:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i like this ubuntu and i can't waite for the next one06:13
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naliothBlue_Summer: breezy is a bad idea06:13
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jasoncohenBlue_Summer, don't use breezy unless you're willing to have things break - and often06:13
jasoncohenBlue_Summer, use hoary with backports06:13
kbrooksgod06:13
kbrooksi hate waiting.06:14
Blue_Summeroh ok nalioth  and jasoncohen, what about when breezy comes out? Is it possible to do it then?06:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYsame here06:14
DAWKIRSTAnyone?06:14
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naliothBlue_Summer: and only use backports when you're after a specific program06:14
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sam_isnt hoary good enough already?06:14
marius_r irc.sci.kun.nl06:14
jasoncohenBlue_Summer, then you just do "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you'll be upgraded06:14
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Blue_Summerok cool06:14
kbrooksBlue_Summer, yes06:14
naliothBlue_Summer: when breezy comes out, everyone will be migrating, just follow the crowd06:14
kbrooksjasoncohen, wait wait06:14
kbrooksjasoncohen, wait wait06:14
Blue_Summernalioth,  lol kk06:14
apack_linuxthis "apt-get" command is..?06:14
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jasoncohenkbrooks, wait?06:15
mostrodibiscottigood day mates06:15
mostrodibiscottiI have a question06:15
naliothapack_linux: system > admin > synaptic package manager is a frontend for apt-get06:15
mostrodibiscottiI set up a dual booot machine06:15
jasoncohenapack, apt-get is the command line tool for installing software (and getting dependencies) on debian & ubuntu06:15
mostrodibiscottiwindows xp06:15
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jasoncohenapack, man apt-get06:15
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mostrodibiscottiubuntu06:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi started a linux teamspeak server if anyone's interested06:15
mostrodibiscottiI am a linux newbie06:15
kbrooksBlue_Summer, you missed something. sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
mostrodibiscottiI want to set up06:15
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mostrodibiscottiand use06:16
apack_linuxsounds nice!06:16
mostrodibiscottiwell, use, xchat06:16
DAWKIRSTOkay, I'll try again: how to fix this: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:16
mostrodibiscottibut06:16
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kbrooksDAWKIRST, apt-get update06:16
mostrodibiscottiit can't connect06:16
jasoncohenpeople need to realize that breezy is in active development and isn't made for daily, stable use but will in fact break and be unsable - that's the nature of a development branch06:16
mostrodibiscottisays it cant get my host name06:16
mostrodibiscottior something like that06:16
mostrodibiscottisays something about identd06:16
kbrooksBlue_Summer, DO NOT UPGRADE!!! Breezy is UNSTABLE06:16
naliothDAWKIRST: run "sudo apt-get update"06:16
Blue_Summerkbrooks,  i was just wondering for when it is stable :)06:17
jasoncohenif you want a rolling but relatively stable system you can use debian etch or fedora core 4 (good luck with dependency hell though)06:17
Blue_Summerkbrooks,  is there a time estimate for when the offical release will come out?06:17
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naliothmostrodibiscotti: that is your isp, most likely (you might look around in xchat settings and tick the box for identd if there is one06:17
jasoncohenBlue_Summer, it'll be out in october06:17
Blue_Summerahh ty06:17
jasoncohenBlue_Summer, october 13th i think06:17
naliothBlue_Summer: breezy is not stable.06:17
kbrooksBlue_Summer, 3 months06:17
Blue_Summerkk thx guys06:17
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Blue_Summerwill it be much different to Hoary? (Is there an ongoing changelog anywhere?06:18
Blue_Summer)*06:18
kbrooksit will be VERY different06:18
naliothBlue_Summer: see the wiki, there's all you ever want to know about current status06:18
Blue_Summerheh, kk ty m806:18
Blue_Summerkbrooks,  has it beem "in the works" for a long time?06:18
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jasoncohenBlue_Summer, most of the changes will be upgraded packages + new packages added since hoary's release- but there will be other changes as well06:18
jasoncohensee the wiki06:18
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Blue_Summerrgr :)06:18
jasoncohenBlue_Summer, well, hoary was released in april- so no06:19
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Blue_Summerahh ok lol, these guys don't mess around :)06:19
kbrooksBlue_Summer, breezy since april06:19
naliothBlue_Summer: there is a 6 month release cycle on ubuntu versions06:19
jasoncohenfor example, beagle, mono, smeg etc. will be gin breezy06:19
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kbrooksBlue_Summer, hoary is frozen06:19
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kbrooksand cant be melted......into06:19
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kbrooks:)06:19
Blue_Summerkk brb all06:19
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Blue_Summer:)06:19
DJLarZHei everybody i have a question06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYso "frozen" means no longer in development?06:20
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jasoncohenBlue_Summer, if you really need the latest versoin of desktop applications use backports. you get the stability of an ubuntu stable release with up to date packages06:20
kbrookserm06:20
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: that is correct06:20
EiGHTBALLxwhat is the root pw by default?06:20
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, correct06:20
jasoncohenwell- backports isn't as stable of course06:20
jasoncohenbut it's a hell of a lot better than breezy06:20
mostrodibiscottiso06:20
naliothBlue_Summer: but don't leave the backports enabled all the time06:20
kbrooksyeah06:20
eruinanyone here with a ati9700 laptop?06:20
kbrooksdont06:20
nalioths_dogEiGHTBALLx: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:21
Will__Stop saying my name!06:21
kbrookswtf?06:21
kbrooksWill__,06:21
eruinwill06:21
Trackilizerany Germany ppl in here?06:21
EiGHTBALLxthank you06:21
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Will__Stop paypalling me money06:21
naliothTrackilizer: you might see #ubuntu-de06:21
eruinstop highlighting one of the more widely used english words!06:21
kbrooksWill__, are you a bot?06:21
Trackilizerthx06:21
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Will__kbrooks: Negative, I am a meat popsicle06:21
Trackilizerthink ill stay here however06:21
mostrodibiscottiso where06:22
Trackilizerlike the english speaking ppl more06:22
jmjoneshas anyone in here gotten dvdrip installed in hoary?06:22
naliothTrackilizer: knowledge is power06:22
mostrodibiscottican I go to find info on xchat configuring in Ubuntu?06:22
naliothmostrodibiscotti: is there something wrong with your <enter> key?06:22
DJLarZWhen I close the lid on my laptop I can't get back to x!! HELP!!06:22
septiikut......06:22
DAWKIRSTkbrooks, nalioth: after running sudo apt-get update:06:22
DAWKIRSTGPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>06:22
DAWKIRSTW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems06:22
naliothmostrodibiscotti: xchat configures the same on all platforms06:22
jasoncohenkbrooks, well, if you use backports and then remove it from your sources, you've basically cut yourself off from all security updates on that package06:22
jmjonesDJLarZ: waht does it do?06:22
jasoncohenkbrooks, you would be better off doing apt pinning or just using all backports06:22
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PARTYcrapHi guys I have just installed Ubuntu but have problems, when computer starts everything is black cant see crap, I suspect its video driver problem , reinstalled it 3 trimes same thing managed to get into console  but dunno hopw to fiux it and what is the default ROOT password? pleas help06:23
DJLarZjmjones: It displays "larzlogin: "06:23
jmjonesPARTYcrap: no root password.06:23
alkuoviI am going to install clamAV. I do not use any additional repositories (backports or marillat), does that affect to the security of the program?06:23
jmjonesDJLarZ: and what do you do06:23
nalioths_dogPARTYcrap: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:23
EiGHTBALLxto get root tipe sudo -s and snter your pw06:23
DJLarZjmjones: and i tried both my pw and the root pw06:23
DJLarZjmjones: nothing happens06:23
xTinaAre there configuration files for apt-ftparchive for an Ubuntu mirror available anywhere?06:23
PARTYcrapI dont care about that I want to get X to start all ois black...how to fix the video driver?06:24
jmjonesDJLarZ: should be *your* password06:24
naliothPARTYcrap: to see about your video, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver (if you are running hoary)06:24
DJLarZjmjones: i have to shutdown to make it work again06:24
jasoncohenPARTYcrap, there's no root password- the administrative password is the one you setup at install06:24
PARTYcrapdidnt ask me to setup admin password06:24
jmjonesif you don't want it to do that, you need to change the /etc/acpi/lid.sh script06:24
PARTYcraponly asked to setup user password06:24
naliothalkuovi: the current clamav from official repos is outdated06:24
jasoncohenPARTYcrap, yeah, that password is for the administrator06:24
DJLarZjmjones: doesn't work even then06:24
jmjonesPARTYcrap: that's how ubuntu does06:24
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PARTYcrapanyway I'm runnin on LAptop  Asus W5A with Intel 915GM video card06:24
jmjonesDJLarZ: what do you mean it doesn't even work then?06:25
jmjonesafter doing what?06:25
alkuovido I have to compile clamAV myself?06:25
jasoncohenPARTYcrap, when you login you have normal user privileges. in order to get administrative privileges you use sudo and use your password06:25
DJLarZjmjones: It doesn't respond at all06:25
DJLarZjmjones: after trying to type in my pawssword06:25
mostrodibiscottinothing wrong with my <enter>06:25
naliothPARTYcrap: to see about your video, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver (if you are running hoary)06:25
mostrodibiscottiok06:25
jmjonesDJLarZ: if you make the lid.sh script blank, it should even get you to that point....06:25
jasoncohenwhy do people re-install when something doesn't work and expect it to work?06:25
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naliothalkuovi: or enable backports/marillat JUST FOR clamav06:25
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maxy_noobAny idea why Music Player consistently gives me an "Unexpected end of stream!" error message at the end of each song?06:25
jmjonesjasoncohen: depends on what went wrong06:26
dinok, java command not found06:26
PARTYcrapnalioth: is intel 915GM< supported by Ubuntu and wide screen rez? 1280x800?06:26
Ralcwhats a good irc client for linux?06:26
din:/06:26
DJLarZjmjones: Where does the lid.sh go? /var/acpi?06:26
alkuovinalioth: thanks for your help06:26
mostrodibiscottiso, xchat is already installed in Ubuntu, but there is something I'm not doing, where can I find out about that something06:26
dini've installed and reinstalled like 5 times06:26
jasoncohenkbrooks, why do you recommend that people install from backports and then remove the backports entry? if they do that they won't get any updates which is far worse than just using backports whole06:26
dinjre1.5 that is06:26
jmjonesjasoncohen: i've reinstalled tons of times because i thought I had installed something bad and couldn't track down waht it was.....06:26
mostrodibiscottiI have specified a nick, and a real name06:26
naliothPARTYcrap: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportedHardware06:26
dinanyone have any ideas?06:26
jmjonesDJLarZ: /etc/acpi06:26
Skywindhi, I order 17 Intel, 2 PPC, 1 AMD64  CDs in shipit website, is this amount reasonable and be accept?06:26
jasoncohenjmjones, that's why you should use synaptic06:26
jasoncohenjmjones, it keeps a log of all packages you install06:26
mjrSkywind, yes06:27
DJLarZjmjones: ok.. thanks you very much!06:27
jasoncohenjmjones, you can just backtrack06:27
maxy_noobis there a better way to stream in linux?06:27
jmjonesjasoncohen: ummm...yeah - i use synaptic06:27
naliothmostrodibiscotti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com and the forums at the xchat homepage06:27
maxy_noobstream music that is06:27
jmjonesjasoncohen: and it turned out to not be a package install problem06:27
naliothSkywind: you are just fine, keep up the good work06:27
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jasoncohenjmjones, what was the problem?06:27
jmjonesjasoncohen: and i used google and found no help for my problem06:27
jasoncohensynaptic > history06:27
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jmjonesjasoncohen: and nobody here could help either....06:27
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jmjonesjasoncohen: gnome freezing at startup06:27
maxy_noobanybody?06:28
PARTYcrapmy video card is not supported buuu:~~~~06:28
jmjonesthere were some things about it on the web, but nothing worked.   i thought it was a package that i installed that borked my ssytem.06:28
naliothPARTYcrap: your video is supported under the VESA driver06:28
DJLarZmaxy_noob: Use VLC media player, www.videolan.org06:28
jasoncohenjmjones, so, you reinstalled and now it works fine?06:28
jmjonesjasoncohen: no06:28
jmjonesyes06:28
jmjonesno06:28
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naliothmaxy_noob: vlc is installable via apt-get06:29
jmjonesjasoncohen: yes i reinstalled and no reinstalling didn't fix the problem, but yes, it works fine now06:29
jasoncohenjmjones, how did you fix it?06:29
stonecoldhi06:29
kbrooksjasoncohen,06:29
kbrooksnalioth, ping06:29
maxy_noobI just do a search for vlc in synaptic? I've already got all repositories06:29
jmjonesjasoncohen: i figured out that it just needed to sit there.  after 5 or 10 minutes, it finally came up and hasn't "frozen" since.06:29
naliothkbrooks: ping what?06:29
kbrooksjasoncohen, backports can easily break06:29
naliothmaxy_noob: yes06:29
stonecoldanybody use ubuntu on vaio tr2????06:29
maxy_noobnalioth, (y)06:29
jasoncohenkbrooks, now that backports is an official project, there's going to be more cooperation between the ubuntu developers and the backport developers so that breezy packages that are backported will try to use libraries compliant with hoary to maximize stability by making sure that libraries don't need to be backported to hoary06:30
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jasoncohenjmjones, did you check what was running in top?06:30
Will__znh: Help me!06:30
naliothznh: no old ladies at local crosswalks? lol06:30
maxy_noobnalioth, since you know me best around here, let me know when you think I can drop the "_noob" from my handle :-)06:30
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znhWill__: what's the problem?06:30
naliothmaxy_noob: we are all n00bs06:30
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jmjonesjasoncohen: yeah - nothing was eating up CPU.  gdm was running....06:31
maxy_noobnalioth, cool!06:31
Will__Will__: Some girl is bugging me on msn, and my room is messy. Also. I have just finished my cup of tea06:31
stonecoldany body know how to use widescreen...06:31
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stonecold??06:31
Will__Jesus. I sound 14, not 1906:31
znhWill__: ask god06:31
naliothstonecold: be more specific06:31
kbrooksnalioth: <jasoncohen> kbrooks, why do you recommend that people install from backports and then remove the backports entry? if they do that they won't get any updates which is far worse than just using backports whole06:31
jmjonesjasoncohen: i'm chalking it up to something just blocking for a while needing to timeout or something....  works great now..06:31
marcushello @all06:31
Skywindmjr, nalioth I have a question: I need 10 Intel 2 PPC 2 AMD64 CDs only, but for follow the " 85% Intel, 10% PowerPC and 5% AMD64" rule, I change to 17,2,1  , need I follow that rule strictly?06:31
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stonecoldi am using sony vao tr206:31
jasoncohenjmjones, that's good06:31
stonecoldand06:31
maxy_noobis it gnome-vlc or gvlc?06:32
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naliothkbrooks: i dont advise removing the BP entry, just comment it out, because at the current time, prolonged use may cause system breakage in the future06:32
jmjonesjasoncohen: you should be able to read all about the adventure on o'reilly's site soon06:32
znhhmm 100 Watt headphones are so sweet06:32
stonecoldi have tried to use 1280x768 resolution06:32
naliothkbrooks: as has been pointed out, bp is official now, and will become more stable as time goes by06:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to check the status of a ubuntu cd order?06:32
stonecoldbut filed06:32
Skywindmjr, nalioth , If I order 10 Inel,2 PPC,2 AMD64 CDs, is this amount reasonable and be accept?06:32
stonecoldfailed06:32
jmjonesso - anybody in here have dvdrip installed?  (in hoary?)06:33
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Skywinds/Inel/Intel06:33
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kbrooksSkywind, ummm06:33
naliothSkywind: you are fine in your request06:33
jasoncohenjmjones, he had the same problem?06:33
jmjonesjasoncohen: who?06:33
dawnfadinghi06:33
marcusi've got a problem: i have installed ubuntu at school, but theres no www, so i cannot download any packages; are there any cd's with the most important software, likely to the 2nd, 3rd... CD at other distributions?06:33
six2onejmjones: a guy called bloodlust is workin on that as we speak...he'll be back06:33
naliothjmjones: i have dvdrip06:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to check the status of an order?06:33
jmjonessix2one: dvdrip?06:34
eruinno fglrx for breezy yet?06:34
znhmarcus: All the important software is on the cdrom06:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's been 4 monthes06:34
jmjonesnalioth: how did you install it?06:34
dawnfadingcan anyone explain how i can add a path to PATH and MANPATH?06:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYsence i orderd my 100 cds06:34
jmjonesi can't get past transcode06:34
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naliothjmjones: using apt-get06:34
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six2onejmjones: yea...he is doin it right now i believe....his name is bloodlust when he gets back06:34
jmjonesnalioth: what do you have in your sources.list?06:34
marcusznh: sorry...but i.e. anjuta isn't... :-(06:34
jmjonessix2one: coo - thx.06:34
stonecoldhelp me - how to use 1280x768 resolution on sony vaio tr2;;06:34
maxy_noobvlc doesn't provide a list of music stations where I can stream from06:35
znhmarcus: Oh ok, no expierence with that06:35
maxy_noobor does it06:35
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kbrookshm06:35
nalioths_dogjmjones: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:35
marcusif i'd start a wget -r http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main : hoch much traffic will it be?06:35
jmjonesnalioths_dog: sweet - i'll check it out....06:35
jmjonesthx06:35
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znhmarcus: some gigs06:36
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marcusznh: i got the installation, but i.e. german language support is only available from www06:36
maxy_noobany more ideas?06:36
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Skywindkbrooks, nalioth   ok, then I will update the amount to 10,2,2 , this is my original requirement. (for save resource of ubuntu :) )06:36
znhmarcus: can't you put that on a usb-stick?06:37
DAWKIRSTMay I ask a general question: statistiacally, are there more NON-DEVELOPMENT programmers for Windows-based systems, or Lunix/Unix based systems?06:37
stonecoldsome body help!!06:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to tell the status of your order from shipit?06:37
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jmjonesnalioths_dog: i still can't get past transcode with that souces.list06:37
znhstonecold: what's the probl :)?06:37
maxy_noobany idea how I can stream music in vlc?06:38
stonecoldi don know how to use 1280x768 resolution on laptop06:38
maxy_noobi.e. from radio06:38
znhmaxy_noob: vlc is not really handy with that, xmms does that better06:38
nalioth_wrknjmjones: i'd advise you to enable backports and marillat JUST FOR transcode06:38
stonecold1280patch doesnt work.06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYso um no one know huh?06:38
nalioth_wrknjmjones: after you get transcode, comment out those entries06:38
marcusznh: the problem is, that many packages depend on each other, and i cannot solve them all before...06:38
nalioth_wrknChurcH_of_FoamY: they get there when the do06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok06:38
jmjonesnalioth_wrkn: what's the entry for backports?06:39
jmjonesi've got marillat06:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi understand that i was just trying to see if the order went through06:39
nalioth_wrknstonecold: edit your xorg.conf (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com for howto)06:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause my other one's got here kinda quick06:39
stonecoldnalioth: yes i tried but failed..06:39
SkywindChurcH_of_FoamY, how many CDs you order?06:39
znhmarcus: then you should update all the packages that are outdated06:39
ChurcH_of_FoamY10006:39
maxy_noobznh, is that in synaptic?06:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to become an ubuntu promoter06:39
SkywindChurcH_of_FoamY, wow, only Intel CDs?06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes06:40
znhmaxy_noob: yes it is :)06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi am gonna get some power pc cd and amd64 as well06:40
Blue_SummerI Orderd 15 cds, gonna give em to loads of friends and familys and keep a few spare :)06:40
maxy_noobI can never figure out which from the list I should install.06:40
SkywindI need a little amount only :)06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut most people have x86 for the time06:40
nalioth_wrknstonecold: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose your resolutions06:40
AstralJavaOkay then, got an Oracle question for you guys: How come if I set the environment variables in a .bashrc, I can't start sqlplus since it cannot find a shared library even though it's in a LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but when I set it by hand on that same terminal session, it works?06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi figured 100 cd's would be a big order06:40
nalioth_wrknstonecold: if that still doestn work, reconfigure again, and choose the VESA driver06:40
Blue_SummerI have an amd64 but chose the x86 package for compatibility with Wine/Cedega e.t.c06:40
nalioth_wrkni'm out of here06:41
znhnalioth_wrkn: bye06:41
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Blue_Summernalioth_wrkn,  cya m806:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to put the cd's in stores for free06:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYso people can have a real choice06:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven officemax said theyd carry them06:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhopefully i can get them to put them next to the xp crap06:42
marcusznh: do you know em all? *g*06:42
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znhmarcus: do know all what?06:42
marcusznh: outdated packages...06:42
apackanother question: is it possible to install ubuntu/linux in a folder on a hd, without formating the entire drive?06:42
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znhmarcus: I don't know what's all on your computer, but updating is never a bad idea..06:43
GerrathI tried to sign the "Ubuntu Code of Conduct" but I keep getting the following error:  Sorry, a system error occurred06:43
GerrathIf you were just adding or changing something, Launchpad probably hasnt recorded those changes.06:43
DAWKIRSTapack: it's a whole different animal06:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYso is 100 cd's a big order?06:43
marcusbut the pc has no www06:43
apackanimal !?`06:43
maxy_noobok, installed xmms. How does it stream better than vlc?06:43
marcusznh: but the pc has no www06:43
Skywindwhen I recived CDs, I plan to order more CDs again, for distribute to many many Linux fans in our city :)06:43
znhmarcus: then connect the pc to a intenet network :)06:43
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jeroen_ChurcH_of_FoamY, sounds pretty big06:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i had a hunch it was06:44
marcusznh: i would spent all my money for a www connection...but there is no www ...06:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbut whith a 100 cd's i can drop them off at a bunch of places06:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYand ubuntu will get more users "hopefully"06:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy freind in ireland charges $5.oo for a cd06:45
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mindstormthats novel06:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm just given them away06:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich i think is better than payin 5 bucks for them06:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYhe diden't burn them the bastard >.<06:46
znhChurcH_of_FoamY: I don't even think your friend may ask money for a ubuntu cd06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYi diden't think so06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut you can find them on ebay as well06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich surprised me06:46
znhpeople always try06:46
maxy_noobOk, I'll try again: how can I stream music in xmms?06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYi though it was supposed to be free06:46
znhmaxy_noob: By getting several libs06:46
deviosmaxy_noob: tried stream-tuner?06:46
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maxy_noobdevios, is that an autonomous app?06:47
odie5533how do I edit grub from inside ubuntu?06:47
moirehi06:47
jmjonesodie5533: vim?06:47
odie5533what file?06:47
mindstormodie5533: vi works well06:47
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marcussudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst ?06:47
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mindstorm/boot/grub/menu.lst06:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://search.ebay.com/ubuntu_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR806:47
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maxy_noobgot it, thanks.06:47
maxy_noobI'll let you know06:48
SkywindChurcH_of_FoamY, I think ubuntu need a distribute agent in most of country (or region) for speed mailing :)06:48
deviosmaxy_noob: it indexes internet radio stations.  you pick one.  it opens xmms, pointing xmms at the stream.  then you can close stream-tuner.06:48
moiregnoe seems to hang a long time if something is places in autostart, why?06:48
jmjonesodie5533: /boot/grub/menu.lst i think06:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYi would love to do that06:48
odie5533AND how do I set it to have a windows xp boot option?06:48
moiregnome06:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYit would be awsome if i could06:48
maxy_noobI installed it, but I don't know where to run it from06:48
sam_cant people just download the isos and burn them by themselves?06:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYi live in america >.<06:48
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moireodie5533: man grub ;)06:48
znhdevios: streamtuner is just a front-end, that would'nt help him06:48
odie5533ah good idea moire!06:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://search.ebay.com/ubuntu_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 can't beleve people are selling ubuntu >.<06:49
odie5533Yay I can make it have pretty colors :D06:49
devioshrm... mine kinda worked out of the box06:49
maxy_noobfound it; sorry06:49
znhdevios: yes but if xmms hisself doesn't have the libs to play it06:49
moiresam_: the problem is that it is without cost to order the dvds in a number which one likes ;)06:49
maxy_noobcool!06:49
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Skywindif ubuntu don't permit selling their free CD?06:50
Gerrathodie5533, you have to edit the grub config file and then run the grub installer for the changes to take effect:  man grub should explain it all.06:50
odie5533moire: I had the exact same thing added already. It wouldn't boot to my windows xp. It said boot failure06:50
moireodie5533: hm, possibly the wrong partition id ;P06:51
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odie5533moire: it said it was vfat, which is the right partition06:51
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moirexp on fat? lol06:51
znhmoire: why not? ntfs is very slow06:52
Gerrathcan someone help me with signing the "Ubuntu Code of Conduct" ?06:52
odie5533moire: yes, only way I can edit it via linux06:52
moirethis is a linux chat! ;)06:52
KyralDoes someone wanna put the whole "EU Kills Software Patents" thing into the topic?06:52
moireok, that's an argument06:52
jeroen_Gerrath, do you have a launchpad account and a gpg-key?06:52
Ralchmm how does that nick completion work???06:52
Kyraltab :P06:53
SkywindRalc, you can try TAB06:53
moirebut why would you like to edit a xp installation from linux?06:53
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Gerrathyes and I ran gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.txt and pasted the results in the form on Ubuntu06:53
RalcKyral, haha okay06:53
RalcSkywind, easy06:53
odie5533moire: file exchanging06:53
Kyraljust had to make sure you had what client you had :P06:53
deviosznh: maxy_noob: I guess I got the libs as a result of following all the steps at ubuntuguide.org, though I know I'm supposed to recommend the wiki instead - closest thing I can find after a few minutes is: You can show up anytime after 6:15 PM06:53
SkywindRalc, :)06:53
Blue_SummerAnyone know any easy way to check how many gigs ive used on my hard drive?06:53
odie5533moire: I often want to read foo on windows and have it on linux, so I just drop it in on linux, and windows has it!06:53
aukxchat default is  comma w/o  any spaces06:54
Ralcnow i have to get my sound working06:54
Gerrathjeroen_, I included -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- and -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----06:54
znhdevios: why do you include my name :)?06:54
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Gerrathjeroen_, and everything in between.06:54
moireodie5533: intelligent people do not save win installation files and document data on the same partition because of possible data crashes where windows likes to  ;)06:54
jeroen_Gerrath, well, I don't know then06:54
peetmoire: whats that mean :b06:54
Gerrathjeroen_, I'm assuming I should include the entire message including the BEGIN and END PGP strings?06:55
SkywindBlue_Summer, gigs?06:55
moireeasy: install windows in one partition and store your personal stuff on another partition06:55
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jeroen_Gerrath, maybe without begin and end06:55
odie5533moire: nor do I, but I store copies of them that way. I have a 160gb ext3 hdd for storage and backups. HOWEVER, sometimes I need to edit files from windows06:55
Blue_SummerSkywind, gigabytes lol06:55
Gerrathjeroen_, have you signed it before?06:55
SkywindBlue_Summer, :)06:55
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SkywindBlue_Summer, you can try df -h06:55
znhhumanoide paramenter.. lol - ubuntu06:56
maxy_noobSo I installed streamtuner and xmms. However, each time I choose a station streamtuner launches xmms which finds the station but then locks up.06:56
znhmaxy_noob: install libmad*06:56
maxy_noobhahahaha06:56
znhmaxy_noob: or just install cplay - then you would get all the streaming libraries too06:56
znhmaxy_noob: I'm damn seriouse!06:57
Blue_SummerSkywind,  ty06:57
SkywindBlue_Summer, is the results you want?06:57
maxy_noobcplay?06:57
deviosmaxy_noob: actually, you have to change the output plugin in xmms preferences06:57
SkywindBlue_Summer, ^_^06:57
moiresomebody an idea why my gnome hangs a long time if something is added to system>session>autostart?06:57
Blue_Summernot really just wanna know how much memory i have left on my pc :)06:57
Skywind:)06:57
maxy_noobdevios, to what06:57
maxy_noob?06:57
deviosmaxy_noob: it's in that wiki link I sent you06:57
maxy_nooboh06:57
XenguyHi - Can someone check and tell me if the 'libmotif3' package is available on their system? (the Citrix client I'm installing apparently needs it)06:57
maxy_noobcan you resend please06:57
znhdevios: to OSS or Alsa, but if it's only while streaming then it doesn't need to be changend..06:57
Xenguy(hoary)06:57
Gerrathjeroen_, I didn't register my key, that is the issue..06:57
SkywindBlue_Summer, to check free memory use: free06:57
deviosmaxy_noob: I guess I got the libs as a result of following all the steps at ubuntuguide.org, though I know I'm supposed to recommend the wiki instead - closest thing I can find after a few minutes is: You can show up anytime after 6:15 PM06:57
znhoops.. that was for maxy_noob06:58
jeroen_Gerrath, ah06:58
devioswhat the hell06:58
devioshehehehe06:58
znhdevios: sorry name conflict06:58
deviosthat's like two clipboard things put together06:58
odie5533How stable is EXT3?06:58
Blue_SummerSkywind,  bollocks i think i have either 4mb or 4gb06:58
maxy_noobI didn't get anything zhh06:58
znhodie5533: stable06:58
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mindstormodie5533: very stable06:58
odie5533What risk do I run by using ext3 to store important files?06:58
znhmaxy_noob: what did you do :)?06:58
maxy_noobhuh?06:59
odie5533How often does it corrupt?06:59
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deviosmaxy_noob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28xmms%29%7C%28plugins%29#sound06:59
moiresecond question: where can i disable in gnome automounting of all possible file systems from fstab? fstab holds noauto for these06:59
znhodie5533: I have a server running currently with a 75 day uptime06:59
odie5533znh: any data corruption though06:59
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Kyralodie5533, ext3 is very very reliable06:59
SkywindBlue_Summer, I think it's a joke :)06:59
odie5533znh: and what does your server do06:59
EddieGuys i need to get a decent wifi pci card for my old p200 to work with ubutu06:59
Eddieany recommendations06:59
odie5533Kyral: Sounds good, I think I'll use it over ntfs then ;)07:00
znhodie5533: It's a 24/7 gameserver/fileserver07:00
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odie5533znh: What connection you got?07:00
Kyralthe Journal is very good07:00
znhodie5533: the server got a 100mbit connection07:00
Blue_SummerSkywind,  what do you mean a joke?07:00
maxy_noobdevios, looking ...07:00
Kyralevery time I have a crash, it just "recovers Journel" and is done07:00
odie5533Anyone know a site I can read up about journaling in ext3?07:00
SnaveZI tried to install my NVIDIA drivers, and now it says that X Server is corrupted, what do I do to fix the xorg.conf to get the X Server running correctly again?07:00
Kyralholy cow07:00
Gerrathjeroen_, It won't let me add my public key. do you have any idea what the webpage does when you click "Find and Import" when adding a gpg key?07:00
Kyralthe first episode of TNG is on07:00
Blue_SummerTNG?07:00
mindstormodie5533: google.com07:01
SkywindBlue_Summer, 4mb, 4gb :)07:01
maxy_noobsomething about the gstreamer package?07:01
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s1m0hello07:01
odie5533mindstorm, GOOGLE? never heard of it :D07:01
mindstorm:)07:01
Blue_SummerSkywind,  lol? How much memory do i have left? Check ur pm for the paste :P07:01
jeroen_Gerrath, no, do you have javascript enabled? The stupid site requires javascript for some things07:01
deviosmaxy_noob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats07:01
Ralcis there a linux replacement for winamp? For playing .avi .mpeg and .mp307:01
deviosRalc: xmms07:01
mindstormthere are a lot of references for you, but can't really think of any in particular offhand07:02
jeroen_Ralc, beep-media-player and xmms are winamp clones07:02
Dr_Willisxmms, beep-media-player..07:02
magRalc: a lot of - gstreamer,xmms, adne moore07:02
Dr_Willis:P07:02
znhodie5533: google for google07:02
SkywindBlue_Summer, sry , what is pm?07:02
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mindstormso i would just google it myself07:02
peetRalc: Mplayer will do the trick07:02
Blue_SummerSkywind,  Private message :)07:02
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Skywind...07:02
Skywindhaha07:02
Skywindgot it07:02
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Ralcokay thanks devios jeroen_ mag peet ill try xmms :)07:03
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maxy_noobxmms is frozen07:03
maxy_noobcan't close07:03
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Dr_Willishit it with a hammer!07:03
znhmaxy_noob: kill that bastard07:03
jeroen_maxy_noob, kill it07:03
surakHello guys07:03
maxy_noob:D07:04
PARTYcrapHi guys me again I fixed the graphics as u told me and hit into couple other problems, SOUND wont work and my laptop sound card is somer high definition sound card and i managed to fix my wireless connection and says 100% and works but its slow as a dog and im on 1.5mb ADSL under windows is fast as should be 150kbps and here barely opens the pages, any recomendations?07:04
znhhi surak07:04
maxy_noobis there no "end" override from somewhere like in windose?07:04
surakDo we have a channel for breezy?07:04
maxy_noobctrl-alt-del07:04
syndhey ive installed (almost) ubuntu and when it reboots to finish the installation, grub loads up and gets an error 21. how do i wipe the MBR and start over?07:04
jeroen_surak, no, just this one07:04
surakX is borked on it...07:04
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syndim pressed for time and need to fix this ASAP07:04
jeroen_surak, you can fix it07:05
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jeroen_surak, I had the same yesterday07:05
maxy_noobdevios, I don't really see anything of relevance in that link you sent me.07:05
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surakjeroen_: It is complaining about broken links - I've corrected them,07:05
jeroen_surak, yeah, just make it /usr/bin/Xorg07:05
surakand then it complains about priorities07:05
jeroen_and try again07:05
jeroen_*what*?07:06
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luzbelitohi to all, i cant use apt-get. sources not recognized. why?07:06
maxy_noobdo you mean the Sound and Third Party Software?07:06
jeroen_luzbelito, does it give an error?07:06
maxy_noobsegment?07:06
luzbelitoyes07:06
Ralcwhat do i have to install so i can play mp3 files? xmms doesnt work07:06
Dr_Willissynd,  just reboot the cd and reinstall?  odd that you get an error however.07:06
luzbelitosee error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:06
surakjeroen: it's only a warning. It complains that X is using priority -1 instead of priority 0.07:07
Dr_WillisRalc,  the ubuntu wiki page has a large section on  mp3 and other  formats :P07:07
Naxalite#ubuntu-fr07:07
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Dr_WillisRalc,  will tell you why and what ya need to do.07:07
luzbelitopls help me !07:07
RalcDr_Willis, ok thx :)07:07
jeroen_surak, you didn't do anything with nice?07:07
suraka renice will do07:07
surakno07:07
maxy_noobanybody?07:07
HappyFool!restricted07:07
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:07
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eruin!ati07:07
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:07
HappyFoolluzbelito: please tell us what the error message is07:07
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luzbelitoHappyfool: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:07
HappyFoolah, right. sorry07:07
robbie_can i get some help07:08
robbie_hello07:08
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surakjeroen: is this bug submitted?07:08
jeroen_surak, try it07:08
eruin!suspend07:08
ubotueruin: No idea07:08
jeroen_surak, I don't know07:08
HappyFoolluzbelito: are you running the live-cd ?07:08
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luzbelitohappy: no, i has linux installed07:08
PARTYcrapHi guys me again I fixed the graphics as u told me and hit into couple other problems, SOUND wont work and my laptop sound card is somer high definition sound card and i managed to fix my wireless connection and says 100% and works but its slow as a dog and im on 1.5mb ADSL under windows is fast as should be 150kbps and here barely opens the pages, any recomendations?07:08
jeroen_surak, I think it's just a conversion in Breezy, not really a bug. The priority could be a bug though07:08
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s1m0sorry, is there a guide to configure and install alsa in ububtu? please07:09
surakjeroen: It is running X again. Let me see if I can login07:09
jeroen_luzbelito, just sudo apt-get update07:09
ripokhi. I installed linux-wlan-ng drivers/modules on my ubuntu how can I remove them?07:09
cmathesons1m0: ubuntu uses alsa by default07:09
surakhum... no07:09
jeroen_surak, just run gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start07:09
robbie_how do i get more than a 640X480 screen with a ati randon 9000 6407:09
jeroen_or restart07:09
s1m0cmatheson, it doesn't work on my pc07:09
surakgdm is ok07:09
cmathesons1m0: what doesn't work?07:10
luzbelitojeroen: its updatting now07:10
cmathesonrobbie_: go edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file07:10
syndDr_Willis, i tried that. still didnt work.07:10
cmathesonrobbie_: there's a "Modes" section that you need to edit07:10
syndDr_Willis, im gonna put Grub onto a floppy instead of the MBR07:10
s1m0cmatheson, i don't know. i can't hear nothing and when i try to configure the volume there is is error like this "no alsa device configured"07:10
eruinweird, breezy gnome only starts properly after a gdm restart on bootup07:11
luzbelitoTHANKS A LOT TO ALL. ITS WORKING NOW.07:11
cmathesons1m0: what kind of sound card do you have?07:11
syndDr_Willis, but i need to know how to restore the MBR07:11
s1m0cmatheson, is the sound card integrated in the mobo07:11
Dr_Willissynd,  restore the default windows xp mbr you mean?07:11
cmathesons1m0: what chipset?07:11
robbie_thanks07:11
RalcDr_Willis, after i have read the documentation im still blank on what to do07:11
robbie_will try that07:11
s1m0cmatheson, QDI Kinetiz 7EA07:12
cmathesons1m0: is it supported in linux?07:12
syndDr_Willis, yes07:12
s1m0cmatheson, i don't know07:12
ripokhow to remove installed modules?07:12
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Dr_Willissynd,  you boot a xp install cd., and use its fixmbr command from the rescue mode. That will whipe out the  grub mbr. and get your system back to booting windows (ick)07:13
cmathesons1m0: go search google real quick, search for your card w/ 'linux' after it and see what you can dig up07:13
cmathesons1m0: it's possible there is no driver, or that you need to get one from an external source07:13
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syndDr_Willis, i tried the xp install cd, but its not accepting the admin password..07:13
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Dr_Willissynd,  no idea there.. ive never had issues with it.07:14
s1m0cmatheson, ok thanks07:14
surakhum... gdm works, but no gnome07:14
surak /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...07:15
surakmkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied07:15
cmathesons1m0: actually, can you type 'lspci' and then look for what kind of 'audio controller' it lists?07:15
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Ralchow do i play mp3 files in ubuntu? I need some sort of plugin i think07:15
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surfer7any1 that can help me with my SOUND problems and slow internet?07:15
surakjeroen_: did this happened to you?07:16
tobiralc: try xmms07:16
surfer7can I tweak the speed or some settings?07:16
tobiralc: sudo apt-get install xmms; xmms07:16
s1m0cmatheson, ok 2 seconds please07:16
Dr_Willisheh - thers some gstreamer thing ya need also isent there.07:16
Ralctobi, i have installed xmms07:16
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surfer7my sound wont play eaither the drivers are not working07:17
syndRalc, make sure its outputting to the right thing07:17
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Ralcsynd, and how do i do that?07:17
tobiralc: ctrl+p, audio plugins07:17
tobiralc (or preferences)07:17
s1m0cmatheson, what do you nned?07:17
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tobiralc: eSound Output Plugin works nice for me07:18
syndRalc, preferences > output plugins07:18
surfer7can u tell why my internet is so slow?07:18
Dr_WillisTo play MP3s with Rhythmbox or amaroK, you must install the gstreamer0.8-mad package. This package is in the universe repository (see section 2 above).07:18
Ralcsynd, cant find that option, using a danish version07:18
s1m0cmatheson, i connect from the ubuntu computer with an other nick so i can paste the results?07:18
blueyedisn't there a page on wiki.ubuntu.com which covers tweaking of the nvidia driver for x.org?07:18
apokryphosDr_Willis: not for amaroK07:18
Dr_Willisthats from the ubuntu wiki. -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-639a621dfdd2455b114477921b28145252b7805007:18
Dr_Willishe was asking about xmms. :P07:19
cmathesons1m0: yeah, you need to run this on the ubuntu computer: 'lspci'07:19
Dr_Willisthats a cut/paste. :P i got no idea how forrect it is.. go change the wiki if ya want. :P07:19
apokryphosOk, will do.07:19
s1m0cmarqu, now i'm connectng here from ubuntu 2 seconds07:19
cmathesons1m0: it will list all the pci devices on your computer, just look for the one that says 'Multimedia audio controller' (or something along those lines), and  tell me what it is07:19
eruinjsut fire up synaptic, select settings->archives and add the universe repo from there07:19
Dr_Willisheh - it says down lower that xmms dosent need it - hmm... odd.07:19
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eruinits as simple as clicking add and selecting "universe" ;)07:19
s1m0_ubuntucmatheson, here i'm07:19
tobiralc: i don't know any danish, but there should be some context menu with the equivalent of Preferences -> Audio Plugins -> output Plugin07:19
s1m0_ubuntui paste the results in quesry?07:20
s1m0*query07:20
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cmathesons1m0: go ahead and paste it in #flood07:20
s1m0_ubuntuok07:20
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surakjeroen: the /var/log/wtmp was with wrong permission, also as /tmp07:21
suraknow it works07:21
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Ralctobi, okay i think i found it but its called Multimediasystem07:21
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tobiRalc, well, you should try all available output plugins. hopefully you'll find one that works ...07:22
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lsuactiafneranyone have experience with07:23
lsuactiafnerorion2012:0c.0 RAID bus controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems07:23
lsuactiafnerto be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 10)07:23
lsuactiafnerorion2012:0d.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)07:23
Ralctobi, i found one that gives me kind of a beep like a phone or something07:23
lsuactiafnercant seem to get /dev/ataraid/ so i can mount disks07:23
tobiralc: through the pc speaker or the sound card? are you sure that the mp3 you use is valid?07:24
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Harry`Hey people, I need help with partioning07:24
Ralctobi, im quite sure its sound card. im not sure i use a mp3 :S07:24
patrickyounganyone know how to configure Nautilus to NOT use the spatial browsing (looking to make a global change)07:24
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Ralctobi, or do you mean the file that im trying to play? thats valid for sure07:25
KyralWhen I upgrade to Breezy, my Prelink is gonna take  LOOONNNNNNGG time07:25
tobiralc: yeah, I meant the file.07:25
apokryphosKyral: indeed :P07:25
tobiralc: which output plugins do you have available? should be at least "esound" and "oss"07:25
aCiD2checking for Ming_init in -lming... no07:26
aCiD2configure: error: *** ming missing - please install first or check config.log07:26
aCiD2Anyone know a package with ming?07:26
aCiD2I got mingw3207:26
Kyralcan you say every library upgraded? :P07:26
Dr_Willispatrickyoung,  thats doable. :P i forget how.. i think its a setting with gconf, or  may of been somehere else.07:26
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randabisyou need libmng07:26
aCiD2ah, ok07:26
tobiralc: my ubuntu also provides alsa and disk writer07:26
patrickyoungDr_Sillis - Tahnks! I will check gconf07:27
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tobiralc: which ubuntu release do you have?07:27
Kyralon that note, has Breezy gotten to usable yet?07:27
patrickyoungsorry Dr_Willis07:27
aCiD2I have libmng07:27
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aCiD2getting libmng-dev now07:27
Ralctobi, no idea.. downloaded it today07:27
aCiD2Nope, still happening07:27
randabisi must be thinking of something else07:27
s1m0sorry, anyone know the module for integrated sound cards please?07:28
luzbelitois possible to use webcam in GAIM with MSN service ???07:28
aCiD2luzbelito, dont think so07:28
philipsFresh install of Hoary and I am having trouble with ndiswraper "loadndiswrapper failed (11)" modprobe returns "Operation not permitted"07:28
Kyrals1m0, it should have picked it up07:28
philipsAny ideas07:28
Ralctobi, and esound is not available07:28
aCiD2Does anyone know of any other desktop recording software other than vnc2swf?07:28
s1m0Kyral, my sound card doesn't work :(07:28
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KyralSound CARD or Onboard?07:28
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randabisphilips using sudo?07:29
philipsrandabis: yes07:29
philipsrandabis: sudo su07:29
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tobiralc: do you have esound-common installed?07:29
Ralctobi, yes07:29
Ralctobi, i can play wav files now.. mp3 i still cant07:30
randabisphilips: hoary final right? some of the older hoarys had that problem07:30
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randabismake sure you have all the latest updates07:30
philipsrandabis: yea, I am pretty sure, grabbed the isolast week07:30
philipsrandabis: ok, I will do a dist-upgrade then07:31
tankabbothi , is gnome disk manager available in ubuntu? does anyone know the packkkage name? :)07:31
s1m0Kyral, any idea?07:31
Seveastankabbot, nautilus..?07:31
Kyrals1m0, what is the problem exactly07:31
randabisphilips: also, you did ndiswrapper -i foo.inf and ndiswrapper -m?07:31
tobiRalc, this should lead you to success: http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms07:31
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Seveastobi, DO NOT advise ubuntuguide07:32
Seveasubuntuguide is absolute crap07:32
s1m0Kyral, there is no sound device found07:32
SeveasRalc: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound07:32
Ralctobi, ill give it a go, thanks :)07:32
philipsrandabis: yes07:32
philipsrandabis: serveral time :-)07:32
randabislol yeah ubuntuguide is bleh07:32
littlefaeWell, this Ubuntu Laptop is complete.  Metacity has been dumped, and I've got it looking beautiful.07:32
Kyralsound card or onboard?07:32
s1m0Kyral, onboard07:32
SeveasRalc, ubuntuguide is crap...07:32
tankabbotSeveas:no. i meant disks manager thats in gnome 2.1007:33
littlefaeIt's also very, amazingly, fast. :D07:33
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randabisphilips: hmm07:33
tobiwell, all you clever guys ... then you probably can tell ralc right away why his mp3 do not work :-/07:33
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Kyrals1m0, Okay, Desktop or laptop? What Mobo brand07:33
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jeroen_littlefae, #xfce perhaps?07:34
KyralHmm, has anyone tried to replace Metacity with IceWM?07:34
s1m0Kyral, QDI K7 Kinetiz 7EA07:34
littlefaeI did07:34
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KyralNever heard of it :P07:34
KyralSorry :P07:34
Kyraltry asking on the UbuntuForums Hardware board07:35
aukKyral: i replaced metacity with sawfish temporarily07:35
s1m0Kyral, k thanks07:35
KyralWell, here gies07:36
auk(didn't save the changes)07:36
Kyralthe command is "icewm --replace" right?07:36
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jeroen_Kyral, man icewm07:36
aukyeah, man icewm07:36
Kyralno entry07:36
aukhmm07:36
aukkillall metacity && killall metacity && icewm07:37
auk?07:37
Kyral..I'm an idiot07:37
auk?07:37
KyralI installed icewm-gnome-support, but it didn't pull in icewm07:37
jeroen_Kyral, admitting is the first step07:37
aukhehe07:37
auklol07:37
jeroen_Kyral, file a bug07:37
surfer7can some1 help me to configure my Sound drivers ...alsa..07:38
surfer7?07:38
surfer7any1 pls?07:38
auksurfer7: not me, sorry07:38
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surfer7:(07:38
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surfer7no1?07:39
aukbe patient, and someone will show up07:39
Harry`I need help installing ubuntu07:39
Invisible_Magisepti: QUIT MSGN Me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:39
aukprobably07:39
jeroen_surfer7, maybe on the wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/07:39
Invisible_Magigeeeeeeeez07:39
jeroen_Invisible_Magi, ignore him/her07:39
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surfer7auk: hard to be patient in 3:30am07:39
Kyralhmm, the man page says that there should be an option in the GNOME Control Center to change WMs07:39
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auklol, wurfer7, where are you?07:39
cmathesonKyral: what are you trying to change it to?07:39
auk*surfer7*07:40
aCiD2anyone know what package contains "libpng.so.2"?07:40
KyralIceWM :D07:40
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jeroen_aCiD2, maybe libpng ?07:40
KyralI'm just bored :D07:40
HappyFoolHarry`: what's the problem?07:40
aCiD2jeroen_, yea, im searching for that now :P07:40
surfer7Australia07:40
KyralHarry, I was helping you, then you quit :/07:40
ren0I am getting this error in Totem: Totem could not play 'file:///tmp/2806_6.wmv'.07:40
aukah07:40
surfer7Sydney07:40
HappyFoolaCiD2: packages.ubuntu.com has a file-search form (at the bottom)07:40
jeroen_aCiD2, apt-cache search png07:40
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Harry`I want to install ubuntu with win xp07:40
auki'm in california07:40
aCiD2yey07:40
aukyes...?07:40
surfer7i'll be heading that way next ytear07:40
aukfor what?07:41
ren0I thought I had installed all the codecs following the www.ubuntuguide.org07:41
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HappyFoolaCiD2: you may be out of luck anyway; I have libpng.so.3, and you probably do too. not sure how to get 'old' libraries07:41
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surfer7holiday07:41
surfer7:D07:41
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surfer7what else07:41
auki see07:42
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jeroen_ren0, please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)07:42
surfer7need to fix my audio drivers on my laptop (http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=5&l2=26&l3=0&model=414&modelmenu=1)07:42
JDahlI seem to have a font problem with Xfig@Hoary - when I start xfig it complains that it cannot load usable fontset, and I cannot plot any strings in the program... anyone (using xfig) got an idea of what font-package I am missing?07:42
surfer7please help07:42
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aukHarry': what's wrong??07:42
aCiD2got it :)07:42
nnachtHello. Can somebody give a tutorial of how to make deb-packages?07:42
spamalopegoogle it07:43
Harry`nevermind07:43
JDahlnnacht, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/07:43
ren0Thanks jeroen_  I'll have a look07:43
HappyFoolHarry`: installing ubuntu with XP should be possible -- what's the problem?07:43
Kyralhmm07:43
Kyralthis isn't working07:43
Harry`the Partitioning part07:44
HappyFoolHarry`: what's your current setup?07:44
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JDahlnnacht, I recommend you download a package that is similar as what you07:44
MrJangleswhat would you guys recommend a site for getting programs and plugins for ubuntu?07:44
KyralApt-Get :D07:44
JDahlnnacht, I recommend you download a package that is similar as what you're making, and steal their debian/rules file07:44
littlefaeapt-get07:44
surfer7:~~~~07:44
littlefaeSynaptic Package manager is also good, as you can see a full list07:45
Harry`win xp07:45
nnachtJDahl, thanks a lot for your idea.07:45
odie5533is there a way to fully reformat a hard drive?07:45
apokryphosKPackage is great too, btw. My personal favourite, by a long shot.07:45
six2oneshred07:45
KyralHah! Found it!07:45
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apokryphosodie5533: of course; just use a partition manager07:46
KyralI gotta change the GConf key to /usr/bin/icewm07:46
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Kyralbrb07:46
odie5533apokryphos: gparted only does past reformats as I see it07:46
nnachtJDahl: what a what to do ist just to build a deb-package for some fonts which i just install with apt-get07:46
apokryphosodie5533: what's a past reformat?07:47
nnachtcan you give some similar packages to download07:47
odie5533*fast07:47
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Harry`HappyFool: win xp07:47
HappyFoolHarry`: and the windows partition (the 'C:') takes up the whole drive ?07:47
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Kyraldangit!07:48
afonithave any of you guys tried out the luminosity how to on the forums?07:48
luzbelitocan anyone help me to configure desktop with themes, weather and panels ???07:48
Harry`HappyFool: yep07:48
jeroen_luzbelito, Gnome? Weather is easy07:48
odie5533luzbelito: sudo apt-get install gdesklets07:48
nnachtluz: what do u mean?07:48
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JDahlnnacht, I know nothing about fonts (other than my xfig cant find any :S)07:48
deviosHarry`: http://www.zerocalm.com/2005/05/os-reinstallation-ms-windows-xp-and.html07:48
deviosHarry`: partitioning scheme discussed in there07:48
tankabbothi, i found out that gnome-system tools contain disks-admin, is it included in ubuntu? if anyone uses it, can u tell me the package name please? thx :)07:49
odie5533How do I do a FULL reformat?07:49
six2oneshred07:49
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apokryphosodie5533: surely you can just delete all the current partitions and then format07:49
deviosodie5533: reformat, or wipe?07:49
nnachtJDahl: no, perhaps i did not say it clearly. I just want to, for example make a deb-file from a folder07:49
odie5533devious: I want it to delete all traces of data07:49
HappyFoolHarry`: my recommendation is to backup any data you may have, repartition the drive, reinstall windows and windows applications, and restore your data, and then install ubuntu07:49
odie5533So that undelete won't work, nor any recoveries07:50
luzbelitothanks oddie and jeroen07:50
Harry`i already did07:50
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apokryphosodie5533: yeah, do the above. It will do that for you.07:50
Harry`i just got windows installed again07:50
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nnachtwhich I can just copy to some place in the system.07:50
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obexhello07:50
HappyFoolHarry`: well, you need to partition the drive *before* reinstalling windows07:50
odie5533apokryphos: Arent there still traces of the data on the hard disk?07:50
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deviosodie5533: hehehe - boot your system up with a knoppix or helix knoppix cd, and dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or /dev/hda)07:50
apokryphosodie5533: there won't be, no. Of course, you can't do this to your current hard-disk07:51
obexI just downloaded a .TPB file from bittorrent how do I open it? unrar won't do07:51
HappyFoolHarry`: if i recall, the Windows XP disc should have a partitioning tool; otherwise, you can use the partitioner on the ubuntu install disc07:51
luzbelitoerror: root@lenin:/etc/apt # sudo apt-get install gdesklets07:51
luzbelitoReading package lists... Done07:51
luzbelitoBuilding dependency tree... Done07:51
luzbelitoE: Couldn't find package gdesklets07:51
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odie5533devious: what does that do? Also, its not my main hdd, so can I do it without a live cd?07:51
apokryphosodie5533: you'll have to be running your OS on a different hard-disk07:51
odie5533I am07:51
six2onedd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=107:51
deviosodie5533: there are more secure ways, but that will befuddle most forensics people07:51
Harry`that wont work because i dont have a install CD for windows07:51
apokryphosodie5533: you should be alright then, yes.07:51
Seveasluzbelito, enable universe and run apt-get update07:51
six2onethat kills the mbr and part table07:51
odie5533that doesnt help me07:51
odie5533the traces are still there07:51
deviossix2one: that doesn't wipe the data though07:51
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Harry`and i know nothing about partitioning07:52
apokryphosodie5533: no, it won't leave any traces if you delete it, and then format it to your desired filetype07:52
six2oneshred -n 2 -z -v /dev/hda07:52
JDahlnnacht, isn't there a debian package in restricted or somewhere for installing MS fonts? that sounds like what you're after, I think07:52
apokryphosor disktype07:52
HappyFoolHarry`: so how did you reinstall windows?07:52
odie5533apokryphos: Yes it will :(07:52
deviossix2one: where's shred come from?07:52
Harry`with my restore cd that came with my pc07:52
apokryphosodie5533: something is going wrong then. I've done it before.07:52
nnachtJDahl: ok, thanks a lot. I will have a try.07:52
six2oneboot up in knoppix07:52
HappyFoolHarry`: ah. awkward07:52
odie5533apokryphos: It doesn't destroy all traces as far as I know07:52
six2oneits there07:52
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deviossix2one: cool - didn't know that07:53
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odie5533wipe entirely ever bit on the hard disk bit by bit07:53
six2oneyep07:53
surfer7why do u reinstall windows?07:53
freddy_hello.07:53
six2oneshred does that07:53
apokryphosodie5533: erm, just why wouldn't it?07:53
Harry`Nobody can help me?07:53
surfer7why do u reinstall windows?07:53
luzbelitothanks seveas07:53
odie5533NOT just change the table so it deletes as it needs07:53
freddy_Harry` with?07:53
odie5533apokryphos: It is faster not to07:53
Harry`Partitioning07:53
surfer7if u need to change the table use the recovery widnows07:53
six2oneyes, the entire drive07:53
apokryphosodie5533: obviously, but then it wouldn't be doing its job07:53
freddy_partitioning, how?07:54
Harry`I need help with partitioning!07:54
odie5533gah I don't think it takes 10 seconds to delete every bit on a 160gb hdd07:54
odie5533it should take like an hour07:54
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HappyFoolHarry`: sorry, i'm sure how to proceed if you cannot install windows 'normally'. i suspect your rescue disk might repartition the drive as it sees fit07:54
six2oneit takes a long time actually07:54
deviosodie5533: after knoppix cd boot "shred -n 2 -z -v /dev/hda" or07:54
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surfer710 secs whipes the partition table07:54
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six2oneand it has to do it several times to be effictive07:55
surfer7and sets it to 007:55
HappyFoolHarry`: i'm *not* sure, i meant07:55
surfer7thats what quick format does07:55
odie5533devious: Its not my main hdd, so I can do that without live sessioning?07:55
freddy_Harry` how many partitions do you have? do you want? do you spect to have07:55
apokryphosodie5533: as far as I know it was older partition managers that would take ages. These days they're quite quick, really.07:55
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surfer7rewrites the partition table07:55
apokryphosold hard-disks/data-transfer cables too, would affect07:55
odie5533apokryphos: they are only fast because they just tell the hdd "just overwrite when you need space"07:55
Harry`i dont know anything about partitioning nor how to do it07:55
Eddiebtw guys07:56
surfer7i know07:56
surfer7:)07:56
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six2onesudo shred -n 2 -z -v /dev/hda07:56
six2onethat will do it07:56
odie5533there we are shred looks good07:56
Eddiehow in the hell do i get ubuntu working with adsl shared over a wired router07:56
deviosodie5533: after knoppix cd boot "shred -n 2 -z -v /dev/hda" or "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda".  both will eradicate all data on your hard drive to the point that very very expensive recovery reserved for enemies of the goverment would be required to have a prayer of recovery.07:56
Eddiewith windows its just a matter of letting it get its ip from it07:56
six2onechange the 2 to a 3 to pretty much promise the data is gone07:56
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surfer7How to reconfigure my sound drivers or where do u change them?07:56
odie5533devios, wouldn't enemies of the government just take a mallet to the hdd :D07:57
odie5533Thats how to delete data ;)07:57
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deviosodie5533: that would probably be less effective than the commands...  melting the drive, or grinding it into dust would work.07:57
Andrilhello all07:57
Kyralhmm, how should I go about about grabbing OO2 from the Breezy Repos without killing my system...07:57
lsuactiafnersurfer7 : chances are the drivers are already installed07:58
odie5533devios: But how can they read a cracked disk?07:58
Blue_Summerbackports?07:58
Lt_Patchjust been recommended ubuntu by some comrades, and I've got a few questions, if anyone could answer them, I'd be most appreciative...07:58
odie5533Or... microwave!!07:58
SeveasKyral, apt pinning07:58
lsuactiafnersurfer7 : just go ahead and play mp3s..07:58
deviosodie5533: you'd be suprised.07:58
odie5533Maybe thats just cd's tho >_>07:58
Kyralapt pin everything :P07:58
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Seveasread the AptPinningHowto07:58
odie5533cds microwave nicely07:58
Kyraloh well07:58
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KyralI'm not gonna need OO2 fore a while07:58
Blue_SummerLt_Patch, it is a good distrobution, have you used linux before? It is a good starting Linux aswel07:58
Kyralso I'm gonna use the beta for now07:58
Lt_Patchwhich codebase is Ubuntu derived from, x86, or x64?07:58
apack-linuxhow do i connect to another PC on LAN ?07:58
Kyralx8607:58
SeveasLt_Patch, both07:59
Kyralwith support for AMD6407:59
Lt_PatchIs there any SLi support?07:59
lsuactiafnerapack-linux : depends on what you want to accomplish07:59
SeveasLt_Patch, architectures aren't codebases...07:59
Blue_SummerLt_Patch,  there is also amd6407:59
luzbelitoanyone can help me to use gdesklets???07:59
apack-linuxlsuactiafner, transfer files07:59
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lsuactiafnerapack-linux : between 2 linux pcs?07:59
luzbelitohow i install weather and another things in gDesklets ?08:00
Kyralluzbelito, go to the gDesklet's site08:00
odie5533dd just copies zeroes onto it?08:00
lsuactiafnerdd only copies zeros on it08:00
Seveasluzbelito, click on the gdesklets tray icon and select configure...08:00
Seveaslsuactiafner, only u copy from=/dev/zero :)08:00
Seveaslsuactiafner, only if you copy from=/dev/zero :)08:01
lsuactiafnerheh08:01
apack-linuxlsuactiafner, no sorry, i actually need to transfer files from the windows partitions on this pc.08:01
lsuactiafneri actually use dd often08:01
odie5533shredding commencing :D08:01
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lsuactiafnerheh true Seveas08:01
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lsuactiafnerapack-linux : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba08:01
lukus001How do i get my tablet working in ubuntu guys08:01
lsuactiafnerapack-linux : or quicker, mount -t smbfs //ip/share_name /mnt/mount_point08:01
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JDahlCan I pursuade someone here to install Xfig, and see if they also get a lot of font warnings on startup? there might be something wrong with the Xfig package in universe (I also installed the recommended gs, gsfonts-x11)08:03
Rockett17samba rocks.. I use my windows box to store everything on through mapped drives :)08:03
Rockett17^ to store everything on my linux box08:03
MrJangleshow do you install rpm's on ubuntu?08:03
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MrJangles!dpkg08:03
ubotusomebody said dpkg was Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb08:03
Rockett17you cannot.. ubuntu uses debian packages08:04
Rockett17*.deb08:04
HappyFoolJDahl: yeah, i do. sorry, i didn't respond earlier08:04
HappyFoolJDahl: not a clue what the problem is08:04
lsuactiafnerthere is a command to convert rpm08:04
MrJanglesyea i read it somewhere, i forgot it08:04
JDahlHappyFool, thanks08:04
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HappyFoolJDahl: xfig suggests 'gsfonts-x11'08:05
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JDahlHappyFool, I install that also - doesnt help08:05
lsuactiafnercant find rpm command08:05
HappyFoolJDahl: hrm08:05
lukus001How can i get my tablet working guys? =)08:05
odie5533lukus001: be more specific....08:06
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lukus001my genius usb tablet...?08:06
HappyFoollsuactiafner: you looking for 'alien' ?08:06
lsuactiafnerdeb2rpm08:06
lsuactiafnererr no08:06
JDahlHappyFool, strace xfig sounds like an afternoon's worth of work :S08:06
HappyFoolJDahl: erk08:06
HappyFoolJDahl: install it on a different computer and run via ssh -Y ;)08:06
lsuactiafner[07/03 00:45:17]  <concept10> tiglionabbit, you have many options, you can make a rpm convert with alien, make a deb, try the bin08:07
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chrissturmwhere is the flashplugin located? it crashes for me and i would like to disable it08:07
concept10lsuactiafner, huh?08:07
HappyFoolJDahl: those errors are a bit odd. e.g., -*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*   is found by xlsfonts08:09
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spolahow would i go about sharing a folder with another ubuntu that's right next to me and connected to the same router?08:09
JDahlHappyFool, I tried that on Debian/Sarge, but wont that still use my local X Fontserver? (at least I get the same warnings)08:09
jeroen_spola, nfs08:09
spolawhat nfs? where do i type it in?08:09
HappyFoolJDahl: i'n not sure08:09
JDahlHappyFool, I tried it on a Debian/Sarge box, I mean08:10
KyralI'm bored08:10
apack-linuxsudo apt-get update08:10
KyralI'm gonna install kubuntu-desktop08:10
apack-linuxf***08:10
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Kyraljust in case I ever feel like switching08:10
Daveyhow are all these people having problems installing the latest OOo? I just downloaded the rpm's, alien'ed them and created the menus :)08:10
hellraiser_robhi guys08:10
hellraiser_robcan anyone give me a hand with beagle?08:10
nikkiacoda might be a better choice than NFS, to be honest08:10
jeroen_hellraiser_rob, try the wiki08:10
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hellraiser_robi've tried mate :)08:11
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Kyralwow, error08:11
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KyralKubuntu-Desktop won't install08:11
Thorrn4hello! does Ubuntu have Qt and/or qt-devel packages?08:11
Kyralsays it cannot install Konversation08:11
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HappyFoolThorrn4: afaik. try 'apt-cache search qt'08:12
hellraiser_robbeagle help...anyone?08:12
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HappyFooli think you want libqt-mt<something>-dev08:12
hellraiser_robok i;ll shoot anyway08:13
RiddellKyral: what doesn't install?08:13
hellraiser_robin its present state it only searches evolution and chat logs08:13
hellraiser_roba suggestion of installing libsqlite0-dev08:13
hellraiser_robcauses even that to stop working08:13
Kyralkubuntu-desktop: Depends on Konversation but isn't going to be installed08:13
jeroen_Kyral, Breezy?08:14
jeroen_File a bug08:14
KyralHoary08:14
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ivoksbug? for what?08:14
HappyFoolspola: have you tried playing with System -> Administration -> Shared folders ? It's 'windows' sharing, but it might be a simple GUI way to share files08:14
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ivoksKyral: kubuntu-desktop will install08:15
Kyralisn't working for me08:15
HappyFoolKyral: konversation is in 'main', according to apt-cache08:15
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ivoksKyral: why?08:15
Kyralkonversation: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed08:15
ivokseh08:15
ivoksusing backports? :)08:15
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Kyralyup :P08:16
s1m0Kyral, sorry, where is the channel that you told me?08:16
ivoksso, what do you expect?08:16
KyralI'll comment out Backports then try it :D08:16
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Kyrals1m0, www.ubuntuforums.org08:16
ivoksKyral: do apt-get update first08:16
KyralHonestly, this is the first time I have EVER had a problem with Backports08:16
ivoksbackports are mess, i wouldn't use then08:16
s1m0Kyral, thanks08:16
ivoksacctually, i don't use them08:16
KyralI use them08:16
Kyralhell I use staging08:17
JesusAteMyFaithI use cvs :)08:17
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Liewe-Heksiehello all08:17
Kyralthis is the first problem I have ever had08:17
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Kyralwell, beagle is kinda broken, but I use locate anyway :D08:17
HappyFoolLiewe-Heksie: hey lavinia :P (or however it's spelt)08:17
Liewe-Heksiehi HappyFool08:18
Liewe-Heksiesomething like that lol08:18
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Liewe-Heksiemy first time here :)08:18
Kyralhmm08:18
KyralW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:18
KyralW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:18
jeroen_Kyral, so, have you apt-get updateed?08:19
Kyralyep08:19
hellraiser_robbeagle help anyone?08:19
Kyralthat was at the end :D08:19
JDahlHappyFool, googling on it suggests it is a problem with localization in xfs (although my box should use a standard US setup)08:19
apokryphosKyral: you've just got the incorrect signature08:19
KyralACK NO! Don't install OO108:19
apokryphosKyral: get the proper ones08:19
Kyralapokryphos, I updated two minutes before and didn't get this :D08:19
freddy_hellraiser_rob about?08:19
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apokryphosKyral: oh wait, didn't realise it was archive.ubuntu.com. That's odd. Do you have broken packages?08:20
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adwaithello ppl08:20
Kyralapokryphos, prolly08:20
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Kyralapokryphos, since I commented out my Backports for the sole reason of installing Kubuntu-Desktop08:20
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apokryphosKyral: why did you comment it out? You don't need to, for that...08:21
thenukehow do I find out in what repository azureus belongs to08:21
freddy_heya adwait08:21
adwaithey freddy_@08:21
Kyralapokryphos, it was breaking Kubuntu-Desktop08:21
adwait*!08:21
freddy_haha08:21
freddy_whats up?08:21
HappyFoolJDahl: how about this? http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-June/037343.html08:21
adwaitnm........waiting for 12 (when my downloads become unlimited) to start some downloads and then go to sleep08:22
apokryphosKyral: odd. How was it breaking it? Which package specifically?08:22
Kyralapokryphos, Konversation08:22
jeroen_thenuke, Azureus: java-trap08:22
apokryphosKyral: hm, I'm running svn for Kopete, so wouldn't know. But, do this..08:22
JDahlHappyFool, thanks! I missed that one in my googling08:22
Kyralkonversation: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed08:22
apokryphosKyral: add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main   .....to your sources.list; sudo apt-get update, and then retry08:22
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luzbelitohi i downloaded spanish packages for openoffice (apt-get install) but they are not available in the application. help please08:23
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apokryphosKyral: oh, right, yes. Adding the repo I just said should fix that08:23
KyralI'm using the main, I'll do that afterward08:23
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freddy_adwait sleep? oh your in india right?08:23
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apokryphosKyral: It's because latest version of Konversation seems to require latest KDE, which isn't in main at the moment08:23
adwaitlfreddy_: right..........its 23:54 here08:23
freddy_oh08:23
freddy_hehe08:23
Quest-Masteradwait :D08:23
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freddy_2:23pm here :D08:23
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HappyFoolJDahl: at least the first of those pfb files is provided by gsfonts and gsfonts-X1108:24
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freddy_just starting the afternoon08:24
freddy_omg im hungry08:24
adwaithmm......u in the US freddy_?08:24
Quest-MasterI just woke up 2 hours ago rofl... 2:24 here08:24
freddy_and this cigarrette is not helping08:24
freddy_adwait venezuela08:24
thenukejeroen_: what the..  did you read my question :D08:24
adwaitQuest-Master: u sleep late!!!! i am up at most by 8.....can't sleep more than that08:24
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Quest-Masterrofl08:24
HappyFoolJDahl: ah. did you do 'xset fp rehash' after installing gsfonts-x11 ?08:24
Quest-MasterI fall asleep at 12-3AM08:24
Kyralgak, still have the GPG error08:24
Kyralanyone have the right keys?08:25
HappyFoolJDahl: or maybe just restart X, anyway, should work without needing to tweak any files08:25
luzbelitohi i downloaded spanish packages for openoffice (apt-get install) but they are not available in the application. help please08:25
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jeroen_thenuke, because of the java-trap, it's prob multiverse08:25
adwaitQuest-Master: its same with me........but i am used to getting up early......besides i got college at 908:25
Quest-Masterah08:25
Quest-MasterSummer break here right now08:25
apokryphosKyral: if it's happening just because of the backports commenting, then adding the new repo and the backports back shoudl sort it08:25
surfer7configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH08:25
surfer7See `config.log' for more details.08:25
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JDahlHappyFool, xset fp rehash did the trick - great!08:25
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surfer7how do i fix this?08:25
Thorrn4hello!! for some reason it seems that I do not have G++ installed...where can i get it?08:25
Quest-MasterWhen school starts.. gonna have to wake up at like 7:30 :(08:25
apokryphosKyral: still seems odd to me that it's doing that.08:25
freddy_apt-get install g++?08:25
adwaitQuest-Master: yeah i hv my mid sem break too.......college starts monday08:25
HappyFoolJDahl: obviously there's a missing dep in xfig08:25
Kyralapokryphos, thats AFTER I readded the Backports and the Kubuntu mirror08:25
Kyraland updated of course08:26
adwaitQuest-Master: hehe.........i used to have school at 708:26
surfer7???08:26
Quest-Master:P08:26
surfer7how do i fix the path for the time being?08:26
surfer7configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH08:26
HappyFoolsurfer7: install 'build-essential'08:26
apokryphosKyral: it's not a mirror, it's a whole different repository. Did you add it originally?08:26
freddy_ok thats it..food...emergency.08:26
HappyFoolsurfer7: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'08:26
apokryphosKyral: oh wait.. I understand.08:26
Kyralwell, repo :P08:26
Kyralrepo == mirror to me :D08:26
adwaitQuest-Master: u in venezuela too?08:27
Quest-Masteris aptitude better than apt-get or what?08:27
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JDahlHappyFool, gsfonts-x11 are recommended, and I installed those... it's probably gsfonts-x11 that doesnt correctly restart/update the fontserver08:27
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JesusAteMyFaithUbuntu is perfect, my god, there has never been a distro like this!08:27
Quest-Masteradwait: No.. Atlanta, Georgia, USA08:27
adwaitum....i guess it just has a sort of gui...08:27
HappyFoolQuest-Master: according to Seveas, who I believe ;)08:27
jeroen_Quest-Master, it's an interface08:27
Quest-MasterHmm, interesting08:27
Thorrn4freddy_, thankyou08:27
surfer7THAT worked THNX08:27
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surfer7HappyFool: cheers mate08:27
Quest-MasterThorrn4: fellow Spherical user again! :D08:27
jmjonesQuest-Master: what was that about atlanta?08:27
HappyFoolsurfer7: cool. happy compiling.08:28
jmjonessorry - just joined08:28
apokryphosKyral: only gpg signature stuff I ever did was here.. http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add -- you could try using those there instead08:28
Quest-Masterjmjones: I live in a suburb near it08:28
surfer7:D08:28
KyralOh god, this prelink is gonna be fun...08:28
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Quest-Masterjmjones: Kennesaw, to be exact08:28
jmjonesQuest-Master: what suburb?08:28
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apokryphosKyral: or you could try not using the us. mirror. Not sure where the default archive.ubuntu.com server is located, actually08:28
jmjonesQuest-Master: ok - i live in conyers08:28
ralphhi, bugzilla.ubuntu.com has many bugs in the unconfirmed state, even ones that are simply and obviously verifiable.  AIUI they don't get worked until they're confirmed and reach New state.  Is that right?08:28
Quest-Masterjmjones: Ah, cool.. my dad worked near there once08:28
Quest-MasterA bit far away though08:28
adwaitKyral: sorry.......just joined......whts the problem08:28
jmjonesQuest-Master: i'm working in smyrna/vinings right now....08:29
Quest-Masterjmjones: That's closer, hehe08:29
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jmjonesQuest-Master: yeah - to you :-)08:29
HappyFoolralph: if you don't get a response here, maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel08:29
KyralNah, nothing08:29
Quest-MasterYep./08:29
KyralJust GPG problems :P08:29
Kyralnothing to break a system08:29
adwaithmm08:29
Eddieok guys08:29
pcmxmsalo?08:29
Eddieare you sure that the ubuntu server install is designed to cope with old systems?08:29
adwaithey pcmxms08:29
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Eddieinstaller has hanged08:30
jeroen_Eddie, will work on old systems08:30
mostrodibiscottiis there an msn messenger for linux?08:30
pcmxmssure08:30
Quest-Mastermostrodibiscotti: Gaim or Amsn08:30
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jmjonesmostrodibiscotti: gaim08:30
adwaitEddie: it installs very basic things....so it should work on old ystems08:30
jeroen_mostrodibiscotti, amsn, gaim08:30
KyralGAIM!08:30
adwaitmostro....: or amsn08:30
pcmxmsGaim, amsn, kopete ....08:30
Eddieok here are my last few lines before the hang08:30
holycowmostrodibiscotti, gaim also supports yahoo, irc and quite a few other protocols08:30
Eddierestarting tasks08:30
pcmxmslicq08:30
Eddiestrange kswapd0 not stopped08:30
mostrodibiscottiok, thanks08:30
JDahlHappyFool, a modern Python version of Xfig would be a wonderful thing08:30
ilpumI want to promote ubuntu on my website, can anyone give me a link to some buttons? I need a 88x15 one, plz.08:30
apokryphosmostrodibiscotti: Kopete is the best :P08:30
mostrodibiscottiby the way08:30
mostrodibiscottiI got my xchat working08:30
Eddiestrange knpnpbiosd not stopped08:30
KyralEww, Kopete08:30
Quest-MasterGaim is better than Kopete IMO08:30
pcmxmsyes08:31
mostrodibiscottiit wanted me to fill out the real name field08:31
Eddiestrange kseriod not stopped08:31
Eddiedone08:31
apokryphosKyral: not seen the latest versions? Features are rolling in like a landslide08:31
mostrodibiscottithanks for the help08:31
Eddieramdisk compressed image found at block 008:31
Eddiethen a total hang08:31
HappyFoolJDahl: if you write one i'll be a beta tester :P08:31
pcmxmsI dont know why, but my kopete dont whant to connect in the msn network...08:31
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Kyralapokryphos, can it webcam? :P08:31
HappyFoolJDahl: yeah, there's no real competition. dia isn't quite up to scratch yet08:31
Kyraland does KDE support gDesklets?08:31
Will__amsn will support webcam soon08:31
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jeroen_Will__, already does in CVS08:31
Eddieanyone got any ideas there?08:32
Will__jeroen_: Which is why I say 'soon'08:32
apokryphosKyral: yes, but currently by using external progs only; they're working on it, though! In general it's far cleaner than Gaim, without a doubt. Has a few other cool things, too.08:32
Kyralhmm08:32
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JDahlHappyFool, also Dia doesnt have same nice Latex support08:32
Kyralokay, I'm gonna show you a pic of my desktop, tell me I can recrate it in KDE and you may have a defector08:33
inemohow do I install freetype fonts?08:33
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apokryphosI just can't get over Gaim's ugliness. But then again, I'm pretty prejudice to all GTK based apps08:33
HappyFoolJDahl: yeah. also, text-sizing is a bit odd (though to be fair I find that text 'aligning' can be awkward in xfig)08:33
inemohow do I install freetype fonts?08:33
JDahlHappyFool, you must have some vacation coming up? ;-)08:33
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holycow-_-08:33
holycowbe nice08:33
apokryphosouch08:33
Kyralapokryphos, http://people.clarkson.edu/~petermcv/Screenshot.png08:34
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adwaitalright ppl............i am gonna go get some sleep now........will be back in the morning.......08:34
adwaitbbye08:34
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HappyFoolJDahl: i get .. um. 20 days vac leave a year ;)08:34
apokryphosKyral: what do you want... to know how you can recreate it? Which part, exactly08:34
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lukedoes anybody have a great idea how to install flash on ubuntu64? I know that that depends on macromedia plugin, but maybe someone can do it without this plugin??08:34
Quest-MasterGTK is only as ugly as the theme assigned to it is..08:34
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Kyralevery part :P08:34
inemoKyral: not trying to turn it into OS X are you?08:35
apokryphosKyral: I'm sure I don't need to note that KDE has far better support for composite extensions08:35
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Kyralinemo, YEEP!08:35
Kyralmy Icon Set is the default OS X set :P08:35
inemohaha08:35
ilpum_I want to promote ubuntu on my website, can anyone give me a link to some buttons? I need a 88x15 one, plz.08:35
jeroen_ilpum_, tried the wiki?08:35
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jeroen_search for Art08:35
Kyralshiiiit08:35
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Kyralcan I have one?08:35
mackidhey all.  I just installed hoary, then added more repos, and when i apt-get update i get a GPG error regarding http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates .. any help?08:36
inemonope :D08:36
apokryphosinemo: wow08:36
KyralI'm not the only one!!08:36
KyralTHANK YOU LORD!!08:36
nalioth inemo it's not nice to be boastful08:36
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apokryphosus.archive.ubuntu.com had problems in the past, so they're happening again, perhaps08:36
inemonalioth: :p08:36
jmjonesKyral: was that your desktop you posted a screenshot for?08:36
inemojust stating facts08:36
Kyralyah08:37
inemoyes08:37
mackidapokryphos, do i need to add that GPG key or something?08:37
inemohe's finally buggered off08:37
ralphJDahl: it may be easier to extend Skencil in the direction of xfig.08:37
jmjonesKyral: what them you running?08:37
jmjonesthat looks sweet.08:37
KyralGNOME :D08:37
naliothmackid: it is not YOU, it is the server having trouble atm08:37
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jmjonesi'll have to mod the background, though :-)08:37
apokryphosmackid: I don't think so, since it's happening to the main archive, not an external third-party one08:37
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Kyralif I can make KDE to that I may switch08:37
mackidah, ok - thanks08:37
naliothjmjones: did you get sorted?08:37
apokryphosKyral: do what?08:37
apokryphosKyral: what's special about it?08:37
KyralI like the feel :D08:37
KarlosIIRank  Distribution  H.P.D*08:37
KarlosII1 Ubuntu 2492<08:37
KarlosII2 Mandriva 161708:37
KarlosIIlol08:37
jmjonesKyral: what theme?08:37
Kyrallemme get the parts08:38
apokryphosKyral: I think you should check the screenshots on kdelook.org08:38
ralphJDahl: it's the new name for Sketch http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/08:38
JDahlralph, I never heard of Skencil - is it worth installing? My primary reason for using Xfig is Latex, tho, my drawings are very simple, but I want the equations to be decent08:38
jmjonesnalioth: nah - couldn't get past the dependencies.....08:38
KarlosII17  KANOTIX  341=08:38
KarlosII18 Kubuntu 315<08:38
KarlosIIlol08:38
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jmjoneswas looking for bloodlust, but haven't seen him.....08:38
naliothjmjones: want to learn further voodoo?08:38
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jmjonesnalioth: i dunno - don't wanna eff up my system.  got it kinda like i want it.  i may install the pieces i want from source into a relatively safe, secluded directory somewhere.08:39
jmjonesthx, though...08:39
KyralControls: Glossy P, Window Border: Glossy P, Icons: MacOS-X08:39
apokryphosKyral: suffice it to say, you can make KDE do much more than that08:39
ralphJDahl: oh, in that case I think you're best off with xfig as a gui tool.  Have you considered something like pic in TeX mode?08:39
Kyralmmm, you have me interested08:39
naliothjmjones: no effin allowed. . .08:39
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JDahlralph, my drawings are not *that* simple08:40
naliothjmjones: if i effed ya up, i'd havta help you fix it08:40
apokryphosKyral: what's the GTK theme manager? Whatever it is, superkaramba has more, really08:40
KarlosII European Parliament Says No To Software Patents <---yeyeyeyeyey yey08:40
KyralI think I am using the Clearlooks I think08:40
inemohow do I install freetype fonts?08:40
jmjonesyeah - i'm trying to work on this laptop - i don't really want to fix it from the bottom....08:40
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naliothinemo: in your ~/.fonts folder08:40
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inemonalioth: so how? download them or are they already in .fonts?08:40
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apokryphosKyral: I'll show you mine, as an example. Did this not too long ago: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=25999 I generally don't like dark themes08:41
naliothinemo: your current ~/.fonts shouldnt exist08:41
kalolohi!... can some one know where is the openssl directory in ubuntu?08:41
naliothinemo: freetype or truetype?08:41
apokryphosand I didn't stay on that one long -- need a light one, myself. But that's just an example08:41
JDahlralph, well, maybe they are, but I dont have the patience for programming the pcitures in TeX08:41
naliothkalolo: open a terminal and type "locate ssl"08:41
lukedoes anybody have a great idea how to install flash on ubuntu64? I know that that depends on macromedia plugin, but maybe someone can do it without this plugin??08:41
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kalolook.. thanks nalioth08:41
inemofreetype 2 nalioth08:41
naliothluke, you may be out of luck08:42
apokryphosKyral: it should go to show though, that whatever your taste, there are things (icons, styles, karamba themes, window decorations, color scheemes) easily available08:42
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naliothinemo: download and install in ~/.fonts08:42
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KyralAny good Aqua themes?08:42
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gm78Hey everyone, I have yet another problem. All of my user accounts can no longer write to CD drives or open removable media such as thumb drives08:42
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inemonalioth: sure thing :)08:42
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ralphJDahl: there's some pic examples at http://troff.org/prog.html -- it isn't TeX, pic spits out TeX from your description.08:42
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apokryphosKyral: Yes.08:43
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nameless1i have been running totem and i have noticed videos arnt as smooth as in windows. i have a ati video card and i have installed the drivers. I might not of set them up properly tho. does anyone have any tips to give me better performance?08:43
HappyFoolnameless1: you've turned on DMA on your DVD drive?08:44
jmjonesKyral: you remember where you downloaded your pieces for your theme parts?08:44
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gm78is there any specific file which controls who has write access to removable media?08:44
KyralCombo of GNOME-look and art.gnome.org08:44
JDahlralph, that actually looks pretty useful - thanks!08:44
mostrodibiscottiwhat about vnc for linux?08:44
mostrodibiscottirealvnc?08:45
mostrodibiscottior is there another?08:45
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naliothmostrodibiscotti: search packages.ubuntu.com and you'll find several options for vnc08:45
nameless1HappyFool, im playin it off a harddrive happy08:45
holycowmostrodibiscotti, its installed by default on ubuntu08:45
Kyralhttp://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=6585 <---SCORE08:45
holycow*hmm* i think ...08:45
KarlosIIvnc is opensource but freenx is better08:45
Ralctobi, sorry i left like that before, but i think its using esound to output now. i can now hear the ubuntu sounds08:45
lukehey guys, dont't you see my question?08:45
HappyFoolnameless1: just checking. DMA is not on by default for dvd drives -- should be on for hard drives08:46
holycowoh yes it is08:46
Ralcwhy cant my xmms play mp3??08:46
holycowsystem / prefs / remote desktop08:46
six2oneit can w/ plugin08:46
JesusAteMyFaithluke, you either install macromedia's flash or gplflash08:46
nameless1HappyFool,  where is it i go to turn it off?08:46
lukebecause you havee no plugin08:46
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n6modSorry if you guys have been through this, I just popped in...  What's up with the repository on us.security.ubuntu.com?08:46
nalioths_dogRalc: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support08:46
chris24tnhi, everybody08:46
n6modGetting GPG BADSIGs on update08:46
HappyFoolnameless1: err, no, you want it on ;)08:46
KyralNow just find me a replace ment for my sensors and I'm happy :D08:46
HappyFoolnameless1: hdparm is the tool08:46
chris24tni've had a great time so far with ubuntu, but i'm having a lot of trouble getting my sound to work08:46
lukethere is no macromedia plugin for 64 bit architecture08:47
peetchris24tn: what have you tired08:47
chris24tnlinux detects my sound card, i can adjust the volume, and even play music....but no sound!@08:47
naliothn6mod: the repos are a bit off today, it seems08:47
peetchris24tn: tried*08:47
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lukeand gplflash is very "in progress"08:47
peetchris24tn: you have to unmute it08:47
HappyFoolnameless1: e.g., 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' or 'hdparm /dev/hdc'08:47
chris24tni have tried the instructions on the unofficial handbook website08:47
KyralOkay08:47
six2oneno sound at all or can you hear system sounds?08:47
peetchris24tn: you have to unmute!08:47
JesusAteMyFaithluke, then I don't know what to tell you08:47
n6modnalioth: OK, so it's not just me. ;)08:47
chris24tnit isn't muted...08:47
naliothchris24tn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:47
chris24tni've checked all the volume settings08:47
KyralWTF does Kubuntu-Desktop install openssh-server?08:47
peetchris24tn: by default it is08:47
lukeok, thanks08:47
nameless1HappyFool,  using_dma    =  1 (on)08:48
naliothchris24tn: did you go to ubuntuguide by chance?08:48
lukemaybe anybody else kwon a trick? is there a trick?08:48
Seveasluke, no08:48
chris24tnnalioth, yes i did, i've done everything they said to do08:48
nameless1HappyFool, any other ideas to make the video as smooth as with windows?08:48
JesusAteMyFaithluke, a jedi asking for tricks? :P08:48
Seveaslinux+amd64+flash does not exist08:48
six2oneis there any sound at all, like system sounds?08:48
jeroen_Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3) chris24tn08:48
naliothluke: you are probably out of luck on flash and other proprietarty things on the amd64 arch08:48
HappyFoolnameless1: sorry, no08:49
naliothchris24tn: in the future avoid ubuntuguide, it is full of bad and completely wrong info08:49
lukewhy? linux can do everything08:49
apokryphosKyral: because it gives you everything that would come on the kubuntu CD08:49
HappyFoolnameless1: try maybe mplayer / xine / vlc instead08:49
naliothchris24tn: see the https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead08:49
lukemacromedia is slepping08:49
nameless1HappyFool,  do you think its most likly the videocard or what?08:49
pdkllinux cant play Everquest 208:49
n6modluke: On amd64 here too...look for 32bit chroot in the forum or wiki08:49
pdklsorry :|08:49
chris24tnoh ok08:49
apokryphosKyral: there are alternative methods for installing Kubuntu stuff. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/installingKDE08:49
gm78can someone open their /etc/group file, i think mine got messed up when i installed autopackage, i already had to fix it once? let me know when u have it open08:49
naliothluke: proprietary formats suck08:49
lukeok thanks08:49
chris24tnwell shoot, wish i'd known that earlier ;)08:49
HappyFoolnameless1: sorry, don't really know. i only know the obvious suggestions ;)08:49
chris24tntho it did get my 3d accelleration working08:50
n6modThere's a way to install another copy of Firefox in a chroot environment that will run the macromedia flash plugin08:50
gm78i need to see if i have my user as members of the proper groups08:50
n6mod(and Java, and a few other things)08:50
nameless1HappyFool,  ok thanx08:50
naliothchris24tn: not alll of it is bad, the trick is knowing the bad from teh good08:50
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Blissexgm78: just reinstall the package that contains '/etc/group'08:50
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lukewhat is proprietary format? comercial files?08:50
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n6modluke: Flash is not open source08:50
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gm78Blissex, /etc/group controls all user accounts on the system, i doubt that would be a very good idea08:50
chris24tnah08:51
naliothluke: anything that i can't d/l source code for, is proprietary as far as im concerned08:51
lukeI know, but animation is graet and so much web pages uses this08:51
JesusAteMyFaithluke, Google what is proprietary08:51
chris24tnwell, since i obviously can't make that distinction, i'll stick with the wiki ;)08:51
n6modMacromedia hasn't discovered that there are people who use amd64 as something other than a shiny new 32-bit machine. ;)08:51
lukethanks08:51
gm78Blissex, are you able to open yours and tell me all of the groups your user account is a member of?08:51
luke:p08:51
HappyFool!repositories08:51
ubotuI guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:51
naliothchris24tn: or ask in here first, if you see it on the 'guide08:51
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n6modThanks for the sanity check on the repos...08:51
Seveas!sources08:51
ubotusources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:51
Blissexgm78: but is of no use to you -- my groups are purely local.08:51
HappyFoolSeveas: ah, good keyword08:52
Grobihow can i play .mpc-files with xmms??????08:52
apokryphosSeveas: bot? 'Bout time the channel got one08:52
gm78Blissex, are you able to tell me if u r a member of the hal group then?08:52
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chris24tnhmmm....i still don't seem to be able to get this working...08:52
Seveasapokryphos, it's been here a long time already...08:52
nameless1can someone tell me where i can get a list of server commands so that i can register my nickname?08:52
Seveas /ns help08:52
jeroen_nameless1, /help08:52
lukewhat do you do with it guys? 32-bit fedora or no flash or what ...?08:52
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gm78Blissex, i installed autopackage and have had nothing but problems since, it changed all of my group settings so i didnt even have sound, and a whole bunch of other things08:52
Blissexgm78: here I am not, but I have a very peculiar setup for users.08:52
apokryphosSeveas: Ah, I wouldn't know; was away for a long period of time with exams.08:52
naliothnameless1: type /msg nickserv help08:53
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lukedoes anybody kwon when macromedia will give us 64bit plugin?08:53
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Blissexgm78: well, you may want to add yourself back into the groups that own most hardware devices.08:53
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inemonalioth: ubuntu is built on unix isn't it? thus can't get virus's08:53
Blissexgm78: just look at the groups in '/dev/;08:53
jeroen_luke, proprietary vendors are unpredictable08:53
jeroen_inemo, GNU/Linux is an Unix clone08:53
chris_ubanyone can help me with two X problems please?08:53
gm78Blissex, alright, ill give it a shot. thx!08:53
JesusAteMyFaithinemo, social engineering is a virus08:53
jeroen_inemo, the risk of viruses is small08:53
lsuactiafnerluke : install the 32bit plugin.. and run the 32bit firefox binary.. emulation is transparent08:54
inemojeroen_: JesusAteMyFaith: thanks :)08:54
naliothinemo: ubuntu is a linux distro. linux is intercompatible with unix. so, virii are diffecult to put on us users08:54
lsuactiafnerchris_ub : just ask dude08:54
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jeroen_inemo, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/08:54
AndyRlo ppl08:54
Seveashi08:54
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naliothchris24tn: ask your question08:54
Evansssseveasss :( my modem still aint workin08:55
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chris_ubok08:55
Blissexgm78: just look at the groups in '/dev/'; usually one wants to be in. I have put myself into 'disk', 'audio', 'video', 'lp' but I am not sure all of it makes sense.08:55
apokryphosSeveas: how can I view all the current saved links?08:55
JesusAteMyFaithinemo, people have been known to give out their passwords for a small reward, like a candy bar or something stupid, thus the OS can be virus/trojan resistant by design but still be vulnerable to flawed user/admins who are, by design, flawed as human beings.08:55
lsuactiafnerheh08:55
Seveasapokryphos, dunno :)08:55
gm78Blissex, alright, will do. i just had my mom email me her group file too, so ill compare with it also08:55
chris_ubi'm using breezy at the moment, and have problems with keyboard in X08:55
lsuactiafnerJesusAteMyFaith : if you dont mind change your nick its offensive to me08:55
naliothJesusAteMyFaith: yes, good ol' social engineering08:55
Poromieshas anyone using 64bit system managed to install Skype to 32bit chroot? is it possible?08:55
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naliothchris_ub: breezy ate your X08:56
inemoJesusAteMyFaith: i'll take a fudge cake for my password ;)08:56
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naliothchris_ub: x is broken in breezy atm08:56
JesusAteMyFaithlsuactiafner, that's a candy bar in disguise08:56
chris_ubi can't use umlauts and characters like the AT in email-adresses08:56
lukeyou mean 2 firexox browsers (32bit and 64bit) ?08:56
Blue_SummerAnyone know where i can get gaim_vv?08:56
chris_ubi thougt it got fixed08:56
drozexit08:56
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chris_ubespecially the XKB problem?08:56
jeroen_nalioth, virii is not the plural of virus08:56
Blue_Summerviri is the plural of virus08:57
naliothjeroen_: educate me, please08:57
goldfishpenii is the plural of penis08:57
lsuactiafneri run a 32bit firefox, didnt know firefox has been ported?08:57
jeroen_Blue_Summer, nalioth no it's not, the Romans never use plural for virus (slime)08:57
gm78Blissex, autopackage removed hal from a bunch of groups, thats what the problem is. that thing has been a nightmare, my computer hasnt been the same since i installed it. it is gone now, but my computer is still a mess08:57
apokryphosSeveas: no worries; what about the syntax for getting him to remember something?08:57
chris_ubanother problem08:57
RalcYES I CAN PLAY MP3! sounds like crap tho :)08:57
jeroen_Blue_Summer, so it could only be genitive08:57
chris_ubi can't start my default gnome-session anymore08:57
Blue_Summerjeroen_, are we the romans no?08:57
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Poromiesim using 64bit ubuntu hoary, and i am quite frequently using 32bit programs that are set up on my 32bit chroot subsystem.. im trying to install skype to chroot now, has anyone had any experiences?08:57
HappyFooljeroen_: what, didn't they have ghost-busters?08:58
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Seveasub0tu foobar is a http://foobar08:58
chris_uball i get is a xterminal without a window-manager08:58
Seveasreplace 0 with an o and he remembers foobar as http://foobar08:58
apokryphosSeveas: thanks08:58
jeroen_Blue_Summer, use 'our' way then, viruses08:58
Nameless1HappyFool, just thought id let you know that its running faster in vlc so u can help anyone else that has the same problem :P08:58
goldfishhe> :)08:58
HappyFoolNameless1: thank you. i'll remember08:58
chris_ubright after a dialogbox is displayed saying "your" and showing a OK-button08:58
HappyFoolNameless1: do you have totem-xine ?08:58
lsuactiafnerheh, rm -r .gnome aint a good idea or is it ppl?08:58
gm78Blissex, anyways, thanks for your help08:59
gm78ttyk08:59
gm78*ttyl08:59
lsuactiafnerfor chris_ub..08:59
Blue_SummerAnyone know where to get gaim_vv or how to use a webcam with an msn account?08:59
chris_ubi already did that08:59
chris_uband it didn't fix anything08:59
SeveasBlue_Summer, have you googled for it yet..?08:59
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MrJangleshow do you pronounce ubuntu?08:59
naliothlsuactiafner: chris_ub is using breezy. is there a productive idea at all?08:59
Nameless1HappyFool, yeah i think i do ill install it later, i guess that SHOULD fix my problem too. Right now im off to watch some vids i downloaded.08:59
Nameless1OO BUN TOO ?08:59
HappyFoolNameless1: have fun09:00
SeveasMrJangles, ooh-boon-too, with oo as in book09:00
lsuactiafnerheh09:00
KyralNote to self, aptR kynaptic and openoffice-bin09:00
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lsuactiafnernalioth : even i dont run it09:00
MrJanglesinteresting :)09:00
ksmurfhow do I make dynamic links ... is it ln/your file name?09:00
jeroen_ksmurf, man ln09:00
kbrooksno09:00
ksmurftks09:00
naliothlsuactiafner: i may install it when i get a spare machine next week09:00
Seveasksmurf, ln -s /path/to/file09:00
naliothkeyword SPARE machine09:01
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lsuactiafnerln -s what_is what_isnt09:01
Ralcwhy does xmms sound like crap?09:01
naliothRalc: speakers are crap?09:01
lsuactiafnerbecuase it got no vowles in the name..09:01
lsuactiafnerdifficult to pronouce..09:01
HappyFoolmpgs are at 8kb/s ? ;)09:01
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lsuactiafnerRalc : change the audio out to alsa09:01
Ralcnalioth, i know how my laptop speakers sound (theyre crap) but this is worse09:02
apokryphosRalc: see if you have the same problem in other players09:02
Protequewhat do I have to use to get sleep to work when I close my laptop?09:02
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naliothProteque: patience09:02
Ralclsuactiafner, xmms freezes if i do that09:02
goldfishpray to god09:02
naliothProteque: in laptops, sleep is the big thing (both x86 and PPC)09:02
JesusAteMyFaithgoldfish, that froze my system09:02
Protequenalioth: nope. work great on my ibook (not ubuntu though hehe)09:03
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Protequenalioth: so there is no way to make it sleep and wake as the status is now?09:03
naliothProteque: correct NOT ubuntu (ydl worked great on my iBook, too, but <shudder> i just can't handle RPMs)09:03
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naliothProteque: not at this time, to my knowledge09:04
Protequenalioth: okay. (this is x86)09:04
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Protequestatus is the same there?09:04
naliothProteque: you might check the wiki, for x8609:04
Ralcapokryphos, i cant play mp3 files in other players. rythmbox refuses to play them09:04
Mestapheleshoary supports reiser 3 not 4 correct?09:04
chris24tnhmmmm...is there any way i can check, to make sure that my output is going to the right sound card?09:04
HappyFoolRalc: have you been to the restrictedformats page on the wiki?09:04
HappyFool!restricted09:04
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:04
apokryphosRalc: you may need gstreamer-0.8mad, I believe it is, for that. Otherwise get amarok09:04
naliothRalc: have you installled gstreamer0.8-mad?09:05
Discipulushttp://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/04/State/Wi_Fi_cloaks_a_new_br.shtml09:05
RalcHappyFool, yes09:05
Ralcapokryphos, okay ill to to find it09:05
Ralcnalioth, nope :)09:05
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six2onelater all09:06
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dockanejust took a look to ubuntuguide.org for configuring a dhcp server ... what about the domain-name-servers ? i would like to add those from my isp. any idea ?09:06
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kbrooksdockane, dont use the ubuntu guide09:06
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inemo!wiki09:06
Ralcnalioth, apokryphos, i cant find it09:06
inemo!wiki dhcp09:07
dockanekbrooks, whats wrong with it ?09:07
naliothdockane: please don't mention the ubuntuguide in here...09:07
kbrooksdockane, use: system > adminstration > networking09:07
JesusAteMyFaithwhy do people on the ubuntu forums suggest the unofficial ubuntu guide yet people in here say not to use it?09:07
naliothdockane: read #3 here, please09:07
bloodlustwhats up all09:07
apokryphosRalc: it's gstreamer0.8-mad09:07
kbrooks#3?09:07
bloodlustim dyin here09:07
HappyFoolRalc: gstreamer0.8-mad is in the 'universe' repository -- have you enabled network repositories ?09:07
kbrookswhere?09:07
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kbrooksdoh09:07
naliothJesusAteMyFaith: you can read the same URL09:07
bloodlustwhats the easiest way to copy a dvd (movie) with ubuntu?09:07
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naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines09:08
JesusAteMyFaithnalioth, thanks09:08
Ralcapokryphos, its not on the list09:08
RalcHappyFool, no idea09:08
bloodlusti have only the dvd+-RW drive no actual dvd playing drive to copy directly from09:08
HappyFool!repositories09:08
uboturepositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:08
naliothbloodlust: make an image09:09
HappyFoolRalc: go to that wiki page, and add the network repositories09:09
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bloodlustnalioth ---- thats all i've been trying to do this hole time is copy dvds09:09
RalcHappyFool, okay09:09
apokryphosRalc: you need the Uni repository. Check the links provided above.09:09
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naliothbloodlust: use k3b09:09
bwlang_anybody know what a .wx file is?09:09
kbrooks* Ubuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions. # Regressions such as making you add a repoistory to be used constantly09:09
bloodlustnalioth -- whats k3b09:09
GerrathI tried to register a gpg key with Ubuntu Launchpad and I got the following message:Key 1024D/69236B7B was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.09:09
HappyFoolRalc: then you can install the mp3 codecs (i.e., gstreamer0.8-mad)09:09
nalioth!info k3b09:10
kbrooks@ JesusAteMyFaith09:10
ubotuk3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB09:10
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Gerrathwhat does that mean?09:10
bloodlust!info k3b09:10
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, thanks09:10
HappyFoolGerrath: it's probably sent a mail to you ?09:10
GerrathHappyFool, I thought that too but I have not recieved one yet.09:10
naliothGerrath: have you had your key signed?09:11
HappyFoolGerrath: *shrug*, sorry, not sure09:11
Gerrathno.09:11
dockanenalioth, kbrooks : i got the point. so i will bookmark the wiki instead of the guide and come back later with any questions09:11
GerrathHappyFool, no.09:11
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kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, also, for: "Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all" look at making sound work properly in gnome and tell us what it does!09:12
GerrathHappyFool, do I sign it before I register it?09:12
GerrathHappyFool, I'm pretty new to gpg.09:12
naliothGerrath: www.biglumber.com   make it so09:12
HappyFoolGerrath: me too! ask nalioth ;)09:12
naliothGerrath: someone ELSE signs YOUR key09:12
AnguShi there... i got trouble installing the MANTIS package on hoary... it doesn't work! somehow it cant connect to mysql, but i supplied correct user/pass etc! anyone else experienced such problems?09:12
dizzieNewest available PHP version for Ubuntu is 4.3.3, how can i install 5,x ? =)09:12
apokryphosdizzie: you'll have to compile09:13
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Gerrathnalioth, how do you get someone else to sign it?09:13
dizzieFigured that, v5 is old and stable, just not if you use apt-get :)09:13
naliothGerrath: www.biglumber.com   <<<bookmark it09:13
naliothGerrath: go to that site, find your nearest city (use only the city name, no state/province/country code)09:14
naliothGerrath: email any of the users you find, in a friendly manner and they'll be happy to explain further09:14
deviosthanks for the help today, all. lata09:15
Gerrathnalioth, Thanks, I'm assuming it will be one of them that will sign it?09:15
naliothGerrath: basically you show them your govt issued id, some other things, and they show you theirs, adn y'all go home and sign each others keys09:15
naliothGerrath: your key can be signed millions of times09:15
naliothGerrath: if you could find millions of gpg users09:15
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Gerrathnalioth, can I just have a friend sign it that also uses gpg?09:16
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naliothGerrath: surely, as long as y'all follow the standards09:16
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naliothGerrath: won't hurt a bit to contact someone from biglumber09:17
zookoGreetings, people of #ubuntu!  Can anyone help me install mplayer on breezy?09:17
zooko09:17
zookoI think maybe I'll just go get the mplayer source ...09:17
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dockanenalioth, you gave me the advice to use system -> system -> administration. i may switch to dhcp cnfiguration there but where do i activate a dhcp server ?09:17
lukesee the topic09:17
naliothzooko: sounds good09:17
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naliothdockane: i have no clue. i think you've missent to me09:18
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dockanenalioth, i am sorry. it was kbrooks09:18
punkrockmcduckahoy09:18
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kbrooksdockane, uh09:19
AdrenoAnyone here know anything about Dosbox?09:19
naliothcustomers are calling09:19
naliothttyl09:19
kbrooksi said system -> adminstration -> network09:19
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dockanekbrooks, i found everything i need in the wiki. no reaseon to get nervous ;)09:19
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kbrooksdockane, not nervous. it's just a habit09:20
punkrockmcducki need some with my junky old sound card09:20
punkrockmcducki need some help, that is.09:20
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lsuactiafnerAdreno : use dosbox to play old dos based games09:20
lsuactiafnerAdreno : like dune2 not dune200009:20
lsuactiafnerdune2 is fun09:20
punkrockmcduckahh dune. that was always a good time.09:21
Adrenoi know what its for, and i got it installed, but i cant seem to find out how to mount the directory09:21
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RalcHappyFool, okay i figured it out now.. and i have installed that "mad" thing. the sound still sucks :D09:22
HappyFoolRalc: tried any .wav files?09:22
lsuactiafnerRalc : change to audio out09:22
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RalcHappyFool, have none :)09:23
HappyFoolRalc: music cd?09:24
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Ralclsuactiafner, to what? esd is the only one that works09:24
HappyFoolRalc: do the ubuntu sounds (like startup sound) sound ok?09:24
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lsuactiafneralsa should be nice09:25
lsuactiafnerand make sure your speakers are plugged in properly09:25
Kyralemm, nivermind, KDE != me09:25
RalcHappyFool, yes its okay09:25
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KarlosIIhmm msn is down09:25
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lsuactiafnercool09:26
no_gatez_fananyone know of good reading material to help me get shorewall started and configured?09:26
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Big_Ohi09:26
HappyFoolRalc: here's a test wav file   /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav    <-- you say this sounds ok ?09:26
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HappyFoolRalc: i don't know why mp3 playback would be bad, but other playback ok09:27
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lsuactiafnerno_gatez_fan : freshmeat.net search shorewall then goto the shorewall page and read their documentation09:27
apokryphosKarlosII: not here09:27
no_gatez_fanok ty09:28
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slyHi, I have tried three different nics with a new install and still cannot get an adress from my dhcp09:29
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RalcHappyFool, yeah they sound like theyre okay.. i have to play them in totem though.. and if i play a while at the same this as a mp3 the mp3 really fucks up09:29
kbrookslol09:29
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dszaboMy screen resolution is set at 640X480, using the Intel 845G Graphics09:30
dszaboCant get it out of this resolution09:30
lsuactiafnerubotu : tell dszabo about resolution09:30
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kbrookswhat package do i need for dvd watching? started with lib something09:31
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lsuactiafnerlibdvdcss to crack dvds..09:31
lsuactiafnerlibdvdread09:31
Discipuluslsuactiafner, not libdvdcss2 ?09:31
lsuactiafnermany of em..09:31
minimidgydoes any know how to compile cube (game)09:32
lsuactiafnerDiscipulus : not sure, i usually just ftp to a gentoo mirror and do ls *dvd*09:32
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kbrookslsuactiafner, are you going  offtopic?09:33
dockanei am not really totally new to the topic, but isn't a bit too much for somebody wihtout _any knowledge about tcp ip to let him configure /etc/ipmasq.conf ??09:34
Discipuluslsuactiafner, why gentoo?09:34
lsuactiafnerkbrooks : no, easy way to list any package with dvd in the name09:34
lsuactiafnerand usually its the newest / stable package name09:35
dockaneas this is the provided "help" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing09:35
slyhow come lspci gives me the nic but I cant get an address form my dhcp server?09:35
anacronhmm can someone help me with updating my virtualhost or what ever it is (no-ip.org linux tool)09:36
jozzerhow does the default user setup work? my created user does it have root access? I can't seem to su - root wrong p/w???09:36
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Kyralsudo :D09:36
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jozzeri dont whish to use sudo09:36
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^thehatsrule^do sudo su then09:37
goldfishor sudo bash09:37
HappyFool!sudo09:37
ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:37
anacronsudo -s works as well09:37
Big_Ohmm how do i put an audio controller in fluxbox?09:37
HappyFooljozzer: you can read that link for more, afaik09:37
tiredbonesCan someone tell me how to get my ip address of the adsl modem I use?09:37
goldfishtiredbones: /sbin/ifconfig09:38
HappyFooltiredbones: also Applications -> System tools -> Network tools09:38
tiredbonesWould an ip address of 10.0.0.6 seem right?09:39
inemotiredbones: yup09:39
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neyzhello09:40
epltiredbones: host dsta-ai166.pivot.net09:40
epltiredbones: perhaps?09:40
Big_Ouhhh...09:41
Big_Ohmm ill try somewhere else then09:42
tiredbonesOk if that's looks like an ip for the modem, why would I get the placeholder page for the server when I keyin the address on the browser?09:42
kbrookscan i have a dvd in a cdrom drive?09:42
anacronwhat09:42
anacron:D09:42
Big_Ojesus christ if i could do it i would though09:43
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JesusAteMyFaithBig_O, were you talking to me?09:46
tiredbonesHappyFool, I don't see any selection when I try yuor way. Application ->System ->network09:46
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HappyFooltiredbones: what selection?09:46
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HappyFooltiredbones: you wanted your adsl modem's ip address09:47
tiredbonesHappyFool, A way to look at the ip address on my modem.09:47
Big_Oprobably JesusAteMyFaith ive got a very bad short term memoryy09:47
JesusAteMyFaithBig_O, you said Jesus Christ09:47
HappyFooltiredbones: change the 'network device' to 'modem' (or something other than 'loopback interface'09:47
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pfphmm... does anything break if i boot a kernel without initrd? (i have all necessary drivers compiled in, and the rest as modules)09:50
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jbaileypfp: The whole system is setupu with that assumption, so be a bit careful.09:51
mwepfp, it didn't here09:51
pfp... like udev or what's that thing messing with /dev nowadays09:51
spaceypfp, works here09:51
jbaileyLike in breezy, there's some chance t hat we may do all the udevstart stuff in the initramfs.09:51
jbailey(Right now we do it twice)09:51
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tiredbonesHappyFool, I selected eth0 and it responded with 10.0.0.6. So, I guess the modem ip is 10.0.0.6.09:52
pfpmwe, spacey, right, thanks09:52
HappyFooltiredbones: quite possibly09:52
spaceypfp, never hurts to try anyway09:52
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spaceyjust don't do experimenting on a production machine :P09:52
pfpjbailey: i see... but not in the current release though?09:52
pfpspacey: it's "just" my home box :)09:53
jbaileypfp: Right, not in Hoary.09:53
spaceyjbailey, will that shorten the boottime much?09:53
jbaileyspacey: Not alot, it can remove some boottime race conditions, I think.09:53
jbaileyudevstart is only a couple of seconds at worst.09:53
spaceyk09:53
dockanehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing   <---  thats crap09:53
HappyFooltiredbones: i think 10.* is a standard address for uhh. 'netmasqing' or whatever it's called.09:54
HappyFooldockane: it's a wiki. please fix it ;)09:54
tiredbonesHow does one go about trying to figure out if a medem is gone? My ISP doesn't support Linux and they want to charge me for a server call.09:54
pfpjbailey: do you happen to know why my md devices re-number themselves every time one array's status changes? (this is why i'm switching to compiled-in raid)09:54
epltiredbones: your modems adress will not be the same as your network cards, try 10.0.0.109:55
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Blissextiredbones: run the 'pppd' command in debug mode, it will print what it is doing.09:55
jbaileypfp: I don't.  It's something I'm trying to piece out with the raid stuff in the initramfs.09:55
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Blissextiredbones: or even better use 'minicom' or 'seyon' to talk directly to the modem and check if it responds to 'AT' commands09:56
shnazzleahoihoi09:56
HappyFoolBlissex: this applies for adsl too? (never used adsl, don't have a clue)09:56
pfpjbailey: ok, thanks. so it's a known problem anyway?09:56
BlissexHappyFool: no, ADSL modems are not really ''modems''.09:57
dockaneHappyFool, nope ... that should be a task for the guy who offered this bare information. its totally stupid imho to tell somebody to edit a .rul file.09:57
tiredbonesepl, when I enter 10.0.0.1 the responds is "the connection was refused when attempting to connect to 10.0.0.1.09:57
BlissexHappyFool: in any case most ADSL modems are in effect winmodems, and they are very very dodgy to make to work with Linux.09:57
epltiredbones: ok, is it an internal or external "modem" ?09:57
HappyFooldockane: *shrug* feel free to complain and not help then09:57
HappyFoolBlissex: ok. my point is tiredbones is going on about adsl ;)09:58
tiredbonesBlissex, does it matter if I'm using dsl connection?09:58
jbaileypfp: I think so, yeah.09:58
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tiredbonesHappyFool, I'm reporting what's on the bottom of the modem.09:59
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Ralcwhats a good movieplayer?10:00
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klaymgxine10:00
Big_Oxine10:00
anatolemplayer10:00
anatolew/o gui10:00
anatole:p10:00
HappyFooltiredbones: i really don't know much about adsl, sorry10:00
Ralc:D10:00
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dockaneits somehow strange that ubuntu makes it that hard to share a dial up connection with your lanm10:01
dockanelan10:01
KyralSharing a Dial Up on LAN?!10:02
KyralYou are making a slow thing slower10:02
peetrofl10:02
tiredbonesepl, it an external modem that my isp provides.10:02
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KyralI would hate to try to download that thing10:03
mjrhmh, hard? perchance you'd want to check out ipmasq from universe, I think that wasn't very hard10:03
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neyzhey theren is there any netinstall cd for ubuntu ?10:03
KyralSeriously, if I become a National Leader, I'm gonna outlaw DialUp10:03
klaymhow can I set my default applications, such as web browser, music player, etc? so that when I click a file it opens up that specific application10:03
pinkoI wonder if I can bake trout with the skin still on, for good results.10:03
KyralNational sponsored high-speed!10:04
dockaneKyral, dial up does imho include adsl ?! .. if not i am sorry and correct this : its somehow strange that ubuntu makes it that hard to share your internet connection with your lan10:04
pinkoneyz: there's only one ubuntu cd.  does it really need a net install?10:04
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KyralDial Up == 56k10:04
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neyzpinko, dl 20mb and burning on a RW is faster than 550mb ^^10:05
odie5533Kyral: or 28k ;D10:05
KyralADSL, DSL, Cable, T1, T2, T3 == HighSpeed10:05
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pinkoneyz: very true.  oh well, there's always debian.10:05
odie5533Kyral: What about netzero highspeed! ;)10:05
Kyralodie5533,  I truly have pity for you if you use that10:05
odie5533so fast you'll think you were on broadband!10:06
Kyral56k is 56k, no matter HOW you slice it10:06
Hentaishotgun10:06
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Kyral....someone has a nick of Hentai....10:06
tiglionabbitw00t!10:06
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odie5533Kyral: it is a kind of highspeed, but I doubt it actually ads speed. It compresses the files before it sends them, so they are smaller and then you uncompress them10:06
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neyzits ok i will download the full cd - 2MB/s here - :d10:06
tiglionabbitI have both kaffeine and beep-media-player playing sound at the same time10:06
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Kyralyah, its still 56k10:07
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odie5533I suppose so10:07
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tiglionabbitnow, how can I get vlc and mplayer to play nicely too?10:07
odie5533I'm happy with the speed too10:07
HappyFoolodie5533: how do they compress compressed files then? ;-)10:07
Kyralat school I have Duel T310:07
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odie5533happyfool: UHARC, though they dont use it10:07
dockaneso we ve got different definitions here of dial up ... since my dsl provider is PPPoE which is somehow dial up. but dont mind, the point that ubuntu does not include an easy way to share _any internet connection is really sluggish for a desktop os with a "wannabe user friendly attitude"10:07
Kyralbut its broken into so many "streams" that my cable is faster10:07
tiredbonesBlissex, If I have to buy a new modem for a DSL line what would you recommend?10:07
dockaneor did i miss anyhting ?10:08
Kyraldockane, I use a Linksys Router to share my cable conn10:08
Blissextiredbones: almost anything with an Ethernet interface, not USB.10:08
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KyralCable Modem ---> Linksys Wireless Router ~~~Wireless~~~> My families 3 PCs10:09
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Blissextiredbones: I have a Belkin and it (like 3com and SMC) has some sw defects. Netgear has a few good models, but some are dodgy, and Linksys is not too bad.10:09
odie5533Kyral: wireless is crap10:09
odie5533packet loss up the poopie hole10:09
Blissextiredbones: there are also very many really cheap Conexant based ones, that for the price are not bad.10:09
dockaneKyral, congratulation. that makes you rised abouve any ubuntu user who has to find his way10:09
Ralcheheh how do i install xine-ui? i got it from the package-thingy but where has it been installed?10:09
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Big_Oerr what audio controler should i use audio controller with fluxbox?10:10
DiscipulusRalc, did you use apt-get ?10:10
Blissextiredbones: but the crucial thing is the Ethernet interface, not USB or internal.10:10
HappyFoolRalc: applications -> sound and video -> xine10:10
odie5533Ralc: sudo apt-get install xine-ui10:10
BlissexRalc: 'dpkg -L <package name>'10:10
odie5533lol so many different answers10:10
Ralchehe yeah10:10
tinmanhello, i have a usb dvd-r drive and i get a crash when it goes to scd0-scd4, is there any way to force it to stay on scd5 after rebooting?10:10
odie5533Ralc, I think it best you explain what you are trying to do10:10
Ralci tried odie5533's10:11
odie5533yay!10:11
Big_Ohttp://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui << xine instalation guide10:11
odie5533then just type xine in terminal10:11
tiredbonesBlissex,Ok thanks. I know my isp will not support me anymore.10:11
odie5533and it should run10:11
tiglionabbitactually, gxine is probably a better choice10:11
Kyraldockane: WTF? *looks confused*10:11
tiglionabbitxine-ui looks crayzee10:11
odie5533tiglionabbit, same backend, whats it matter10:11
tiglionabbitand don't hawk ubuntugide10:11
RalcYES it worked :) but its not in my program list10:11
DiscipulusRalc, type xine-ui at a command line and tell me what happens?10:11
Ralcunder sound and video10:11
tiglionabbitodie5533: well it's a different UI.  One that looks more bad-ass, but has lots of useless buttons on it10:11
tiglionabbit!ubuntuguide10:12
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a helpful guide for new users located at http://ubuntuguide.org10:12
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odie5533Ralc: I dont think it ever will be. Anyways, I suggest you use Totem-xine instead, its easy to use with the same backend10:12
Kyral!wiki10:12
tiglionabbithey, ubotu has a positive definition of that?10:12
odie5533Kyral's scripts broked10:12
tiglionabbitubotu forget ubuntuguide10:12
ubotutiglionabbit: i forgot ubuntuguide10:12
odie5533ubuntuguide is great10:12
Discipuluslol10:12
Discipulusno it isn't10:12
odie5533Thats how I set some things up10:12
odie5533yes!10:12
RalcDiscipulus, Command not found10:13
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DiscipulusRalc, then do 'sudo apt-get install xine-ui'10:13
odie5533teaches you things fast, exactly what I want10:13
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kbrooksubuntu guide is teh broken10:13
bojanhi! i wanted to compile a .cpp file with gcc and the shell says: installation problem cannot exec 'cclplus': No such file or directory10:13
Discipulusodie5533, it doesn't TEACH you anything10:13
kbrooksdont use it!10:13
tiglionabbitubotu ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:13
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit10:13
dockaneKyral, of course its a solution to spend money on a router. but whats the problem with internet connection sharing with a ubuntu system that either way is running and runs 2 nics ?10:13
odie5533Ralc: the command is xine, thats why10:13
tiredbonesBlissex, Can I use minicon to try and trouble shoot the VisionNet 201 modem I have?10:13
tiglionabbitbojan: install build-essential10:13
HappyFoolbrojan: try 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'10:13
kbrooksodie5533, it teaches you ZERO10:13
HappyFoolalthough that error's a little odd.10:13
odie5533kbrooks: how so?10:13
bojantiglionabbit: how can i do that?10:13
Blissextiredbones: 'minicom' is only for analog modems...10:14
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odie5533I now know how to install flashplayer for mozilla!10:14
tiglionabbitbojan: use synaptic10:14
kbrooksodie5533, you get commands thrown at you without explanation10:14
bojantiglionabbit: thanks10:14
Kyraldockane, Sorry....10:14
kbrooksodie5533, also:10:14
tiredbonesBlissex, Are there any tool that can be used/10:14
Kyralits like only way I know how to share a net conn ATM10:14
odie5533kbrooks: Its aimed at people that dont want an explanation, so why give them one10:14
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Blissextiredbones: but for what? I haven't really understood what the problem is and the context.10:14
tiglionabbitodie5533: it is most always better to read the wiki.  I've shoved some topics into ubotu that will cover most things ubuntuguide does10:15
kbrooksodie5533, hold on hold on10:15
odie5533Consider a typical windows user. Testing out ubuntu for the first time. But wait! his video player isn't working! What will he do? He wants to watch a movie now, not read a wiki. ubuntu guide to the rescue!!!! *ubuntuguide theme song plays in the background*10:15
kbrooksodie5533, the ubuntu guide is for a knowledgable person10:15
tiredbonesBlissex, I'm trying to se if my modem is working or is there some value I have to change.10:15
kbrooksodie5533, not a noob10:16
tiredbonesBlissex, to see what wrong with it.10:16
Blissextiredbones: but you first need to define fairly precisely what happens and what does not work.10:16
jeroen_How do I get the output of program 'X' in a txt file?10:16
odie5533kbrooks: I disagree10:16
HappyFooljeroen_: X > file.txt10:16
kbrooksodie5533, dude10:16
odie5533I didn't know any linux, then I found the guide, helped me learn some basics. When I got confortable with the commands, I looked into them10:16
HappyFooljeroen_: or maybe X >& file.txt, if you're still getting terminal output10:16
kbrooksodie5533, might i please give you a example?10:17
odie5533linux is used loosely10:17
doonzis there a way to see how my process is working ie what speed?10:17
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odie5533apt-get install10:17
odie5533I didnt know what it did, I could guess, but I didnt10:17
tiglionabbitodie5533: it shouldn't have helped you learn.  It's much better to pick up a unix manual to learn how to get around first10:17
HappyFooldoonz: try cat /proc/cpuinfo10:17
kbrookstiglionabbit, erm10:17
kbrooksyou serious?10:17
Ralcodie5533, okay i got totem-xine to work and its perfect :) thanks10:17
odie5533unix manuals take time, I wanted results, not a knowledge of how it works10:17
kbrooksodie5533, pm me please10:17
doonzoh cool10:18
HappyFooldoonz: unless you mean frequency scaling or similar, in which case i don't know10:18
tiglionabbitI don't mean an actual unix MANUAL, but a guide to using unix10:18
bojancan i compile .cpp files with gcc?10:18
tiredbonesBlissex, Ok, I'm going to reconnect my old modem and get the error message I'm getting. brb10:18
HappyFoolbojan: with g++10:18
odie5533Ralc: You should also install win32codecs, it lets you play wmv files. sudo apt-get install w32codecs10:18
doonzmodel name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+10:18
bojanHappyFool: thanks10:18
tiglionabbit!w32codecs10:18
bloodlustwhat up all10:18
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org10:18
bloodlustcan somebody help me here10:18
tiglionabbitgrr10:18
HappyFoolheh10:18
bloodlustim just tryin to copy my dvd's10:18
tiglionabbitubotu forget w32codecs10:18
ubotui forgot w32codecs, tiglionabbit10:18
Discipulusodie5533, if you want results without knowing how it works then go back to windows...10:18
HappyFooltiglionabbit: ubotu has gone to the dark side!10:18
bloodlusti have the dvd ripping through terminal package installed10:19
doonzcan someone recomend a good book to have?10:19
odie5533Discipulus: I am trying to atm. Grub won't let me10:19
bloodlustif i gotta do it through terminal i will10:19
klaymhey I'm about to uninstall w3m (it's annoying). it depends on 'ubuntu-base' so it needs to be deleted too. should I go for it?10:19
odie5533doonz: on what?10:19
bloodlusti just can't find commands for it10:19
doonzlinux10:19
jeroen_thanks HappyFool10:19
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bloodlustcan anybody help me?10:19
doonzlike basics and intermediate stuff10:19
HappyFoolbloodlust: try maybe 'dpkg -L dvdrip' at the terminal10:19
concept10doonz, search for rute10:19
tiglionabbitklaym: NO!  You don't have to uninstall things in dependencies in that order!?10:19
Discipulusdoonz, running linux, 3rd edition10:19
doonzkool10:20
bloodlustHappyFool ---- what does that do?10:20
doonzthnx guys10:20
Ralcodie5533, it couldnt find the package10:20
HappyFoolbloodlust: lists files belonging to package dvdrip10:20
concept10doonz, http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/10:20
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odie5533try win32codecs then10:20
tiglionabbitubotu w32codecs is codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.  Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org10:20
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit10:20
tiglionabbit!w32codecs10:20
ubotuw32codecs is, like, codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.  Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org10:20
klaymhow can I set my default applications, such as web browser, music player, etc? so that when I click a file it opens up that specific application10:20
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tiglionabbitthat is much better10:20
odie5533Ralc: you entered it in wrong, it is w32codecs10:21
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tiglionabbitklaym: in nautilus, right-click on a file and select properties.  Go to the opens-with tab10:21
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Ralcodie5533, i copied it from you? :)10:21
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odie5533Then I typed it wrong ;)10:21
bloodlustHappyFool - yes it does how do I rip a dvd from the command prompt any idea?10:21
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odie5533Ralc: another good command to know is apt-cache search <search arg, such as codecs>10:21
concept10ubotu Rute is Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition. A great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/10:21
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, concept1010:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats the best way to move 32.2 gigs of crap from one hard drive toanother?10:22
klaymtiglionabbit: thanks10:22
Ralcodie5533, why not use the app? ehm symaptic10:22
concept10ubotu Rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/10:22
ubotuokay, concept1010:22
tiglionabbit!defaults10:22
ubotutiglionabbit: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:22
HappyFoolbloodlust: not a clue, sorry10:22
BlissexChurcH_of_FoamY: depends; 'pax' and a two-'tar' pipe come to mind, as well as 'rsync'.10:22
bloodlustdamn10:22
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HappyFoolbloodlust: maybe 'man dvdrip' will tell you ?10:22
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othernoobhow do i stop a ping command?10:23
Ralcodie5533, and why is sudo always written first?10:23
odie5533Ralc: You will get bored of bulky frontends quite quickly. The console is your friend10:23
tiglionabbitRalc: there are two ways to do everything in linux.  Either apt-get/cache, or aptitude, or synaptic, or whatever else you want10:23
odie5533sudo means root10:23
odie5533it executes it as root10:23
tiglionabbit!sudo10:23
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:23
bloodlustHappyFool -- any idea of a good dvd burning proggy for ubuntu10:23
bloodlust?10:23
odie5533Ubuntu doesnt enable the root user by default for security reasons10:23
jmoesenothernoob: ctrl-c10:23
bloodlusti have gnome baker10:23
odie5533it can be enabled though, but try to work around it10:23
HappyFoolbloodlust: sorry, no. i think cdrecord is the common backend for all burning apps, but it's not really user-friendly10:23
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othernoobthanks jmoesen, i forgot :/10:24
odie5533basically, root is given permission for everything, you the user isn't. However, you can just add sudo before something, and it will execute as root10:24
jmoesennp10:24
HappyFoolbloodlust: maybe k3b can do dvd's, i don't know10:24
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tiglionabbithey10:24
tiglionabbityeah k3b can burn dvds10:24
jmoesencan anyone tell me how i can get the brand or type of network card that is installed?10:24
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tiglionabbitI used it to burn the ubuntu live/install dvd10:24
Ralcodie5533, what a good security then :D10:24
concept10jmoesen, lspci10:24
HappyFooljmoesen: looked at system -> administration -> device manager ?10:24
DiscipulusHow expensive are DVD Burners and Blank DVDs these days?10:24
jmoesenconcept10thx!10:24
tiglionabbitjmoesen: is it listed in system -> admin -> device manager?10:25
hussamtill when will Hoary still be supported with updates?10:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm getting point2play ^_^10:25
jmoesenHappyFool: it's on a server, no x installed10:25
odie5533Ralc: I see it as idiot proof, so you dont accidently delete your hard drive10:25
HappyFooljmoesen: as concept10 suggested, try lspci10:25
ChoubakaRalc: you have a point... :P10:25
tiglionabbithussam: Hoary has updates released all the time.  In fact, I just updated something this morning10:25
spolaDiscipulus, i have a dvd-rw +rw cd-rw for $8010:25
tiglionabbithussam: you may need to select the proper repositories.10:25
tiglionabbit!repositories10:25
uboturepositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:25
kbrooks!ubuntuguide10:25
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:25
jmoesen"Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900 10Mbps Combo [Boomerang] " --> well, that pretty much explains why i couldn't set it to 100Mbps :-)10:25
kbrookserm10:25
spoladisks are like a buck10:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow come when i try to copy files to a new hard drive not all of the copy?10:25
jmoesenthanks again, concept1010:25
othernoobDiscipulus: a burner ~60$ max, 100 blank dvds ~40 max @ebay10:25
ChoubakaRalc: imagine a user exploit which runs "passw"10:25
Choubakapasswd*10:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYthem copy even10:25
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Ralcodie5533, but still, it cannot find w32codecs10:25
Choubakainstant sudo access :P10:25
kbrookstiglionabbit, add the link to the 3. stuff...10:26
jozzeris it not possible to remove the totem player wo removed the ubuntu desktop????????10:26
odie5533Ralc: sudo apt-get update10:26
HappyFoolhussam: for 18 months after release, i believe. so until october 200610:26
tiglionabbitkbrooks: to what stuff?10:26
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hussamtiglionabbit: I meant for how many months10:26
hussamHappyFool: ok thanks.10:26
odie5533Ralc: if that doesn't work you need to add the universe and multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list file10:26
odie5533!universe10:26
ubotuask me about !repositories10:26
JesusAteMyFaithjozzer, removing the ubuntu-desktop is no big deal you can reinstall that its a placeholder AFAIK10:26
odie5533!repositories10:26
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:26
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kbrookserm, the link that advises you not to mention the ubuntu guide10:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecause i'm trying to copy 32 gigs worth of files that i can't afford to loose back to the hard drive it was originally on10:26
tiglionabbitjmoesen: yes you can remove it, go ahead.  Ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with nothing in it.  It's just there to pull other packages in10:27
HappyFooljozzer: according to ubuntu-desktop description, it can be safely removed10:27
doubleplushello, could anybody have an idea why, during install,  the network configuration fails with dhcp10:27
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JesusAteMyFaithjust reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to breezy10:27
hussamHappyFool: the thing is that by Breezy ( october 2005) , I might be to busy with work to upgrade to breezy.10:27
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odie5533doubleplus: is your dhcp server enabled?10:27
Ralcodie5533, oh thats crap i understand nuthin of that guide10:27
HappyFoolhussam: hoary's ok until october 2006 -- so you should be ok for a while10:28
doubleplus0die5533:yes other machines are running off of it10:28
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kbrooksodie5533, ralc needs efficient explanations.....in the guide10:28
concept10doubleplus, connectivity problems make sure its plugged in10:28
kbrooksthe guide doesnt explain10:28
tiglionabbitRalc: What do you need explained?10:28
kbrooksit throws commands at you10:28
doubleplusconcept10:of course10:28
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odie5533Ralc: www.ubuntuguide.org10:28
Ralchaha nevermind its okay now i see it10:29
tiglionabbit!ubuntuguide10:29
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:29
tiredbonesBefore I go back to my modem problem I saw another problem while  booting my system.10:29
odie5533Ralc: [CTRL]  + [F]  "repositor"10:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYarggh this is getting to me10:29
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<10:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to copy these damn files10:29
odie5533"I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation" <-- owned10:29
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HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: what's wrong with rsync ? or even just cp ?10:29
tiglionabbitodie5533: thank you.10:29
odie5533why does ubuntu hate ubuntu guide... it only helps people :(10:29
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kbrooksodie5533, STOP IT10:29
tiredbonesI'm getting an error "ror: Temporary failure in name resolution" can someone tell me what this is?10:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYbesides the fact that i don't know how to use them....nothing10:30
kbrooksodie5533, stop mentioning it10:30
JesusAteMyFaithodie5533, actually people on the ubuntuforums recommend it10:30
odie5533ouch10:30
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, yes, but we dont10:30
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, I know10:30
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tiglionabbittiredbones: that means you couldn't connect to some server.  You probably don't have your internet plugged in or working properly10:30
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: 'man cp' or 'man rsync' or even 'cp --help'10:30
othernoobchurch, just man cp, the syntax is pretty easy.10:30
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, do you still have the link to the reasons not to advise people about the ubunntu guide10:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so how would i rsync a specific folder?10:30
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: you could also use the nautilus file-browser, i guess, assuming src and dest are mounted10:30
bloodlustdoes anybody have the program Gear PRO for Linux10:31
bloodlusti am in need of it10:31
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, because i dont10:31
odie5533can't you just do cp -Rfv foo bar10:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes they both are but for some reason not all of the files are getting copyd10:31
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ChurcH_of_FoamYout of 32gigs only 8 have been moved10:31
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, which is smart to do, I would hate to have to provide support to some unofficial guide (however helpful it may appear or be) because its unofficial and because it's always changing10:31
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: maybe rsync -a is what you want10:31
odie5533ChurcH_of_FoamY: cp -Rfv foo bar10:31
kbrooksuse dd?10:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe others will not copy to the new drive10:31
light_punch2what's the minium spec to run ubuntu?10:31
hussamHappyFool: maybe I 'll edit source.list to breezy and do I a gradual update even if it takes weeks.10:31
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, LINK US to it please10:31
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, to what?10:31
faulhi there10:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok you already lost me10:31
HappyFoolhussam: oh, right, low bandwidth10:31
odie5533light_punch2: Pretty much anything. What do you have?10:31
Ralcodie5533, okay i got it now i removed some ## and wrote multiverse.. guess what, it does not work10:31
tiredbonestiglionabbit, Would this have something to do with the fact that I just installed Apache2?10:32
tiglionabbittiredbones: perhaps10:32
odie5533Ralc: you can't just write multiverse, one sec10:32
HappyFoolhussam: i'd recommend downloading the install CD over a weekend (or whatever), and upgrading with that. but not now! ;)10:32
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith: "to the reasons not to advise people about the ubunntu guide"10:32
hussamHappyFool: 64 kylobits only lol10:32
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HappyFoolhussam: hey, i've got 56k and i got the hoary install cd in a weekend10:32
light_punch2odie5533, 500mhz, 256 ram, 200gb hard10:32
tiredbonestiglionabbit, How would I go about checking this?10:32
tiglionabbittiredbones: if it's just apache complaining to you, it probably doesn't know how to make some connection.  I have not used it though10:32
ogghello. How do I make a search on the disk of a .jpg10:32
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, you mean this?: <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:32
odie5533itll run fine. Install server though10:33
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HappyFoologg: try    locate '*.jpg'10:33
kickrocksI just installed on ia6410:33
tiglionabbitogg: search for .jpgs?  If it has been around for a while, locate .jpg10:33
hussamHappyFool: on 8kbytes per socond, it would take like 35 hours.10:33
kbrooksJesusAteMyFaith, thanks10:33
kbrooksubotu, ubuntu guide10:33
ubotukbrooks: I don't know, could you explain it?10:33
JesusAteMyFaithkbrooks, no problem for Jesus, just another miracle. :)10:33
kbrooksubotu, ubuntuguide10:33
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:33
HappyFoolhussam: sounds about right. took me about 50, i think10:33
othernoobHappyFool, what's the difference between locate and find?10:33
odie5533Ralc: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:33
concept10ogg, or use places > search for files10:33
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hussamHappyFool: 64 kbits is 8kbytes right?10:33
odie5533Ralc: then put in it http://pastebin.com/30853210:33
HappyFoolothernoob: locate uses a daily-updated index, and is quicker10:34
othernoobhussam, yes10:34
concept10Why do you guys keep repeating that crap about ubuntu guide?10:34
oggim running ubuntu minimal install + fluxbox.10:34
tiglionabbitothernoob: locate uses a database prepared by updatedb.  It's much faster.  Find has more complicated syntax, and searches on the fly10:34
HappyFoolhussam: yeah. i'm not sure what the deal with start/stop bits and all that nonsense is10:34
odie5533Ralc: then run sudo apt-get update, and try again10:34
oggthe locate command doesnt seem to work.10:34
kbrooksubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:34
othernoobokay, but the result is pretty much the same innit?10:34
odie553395% done shredding!10:34
kbrookserm10:34
kbrooksubotu, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:34
ubotu...but ubuntuguide is already something else...10:34
HappyFoologg: then maybe this (slowish):      find / -iname '*.jpg'10:34
kbrookshow do i append?10:35
tiglionabbitogg: locate will work as long as updatedb has been run recently.  Your computer will run it automatically every once in a while.  'sudo updatedb' to run it now10:35
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kbrooksto a command10:35
kbrooksanyone?10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYum whats this mean?10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYcp -Rfv /Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYcp: cannot stat `/Desktop/STORAGE': No such file or directory10:35
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othernoobtiglionabbit, but the results of find and locate are the same right?10:35
light_punch2is ubuntu faster than slackware?10:35
kbrookstiglionabbit, how do i append to a command?10:35
HappyFoolit means /Desktop/Storage doesn't exist10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i'm in it10:35
tiglionabbitothernoob: they should be, yes10:35
odie5533ChurcH_of_FoamY, do ./Desktop/Storage10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok10:36
lsuactiafnermkdir /storage/shane/STORAGE10:36
tiglionabbitkbrooks: append what now?10:36
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: you don't maybe mean Desktop/Storage? / is absolute10:36
oggfind -/ does work. thanx giys.10:36
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok >.<10:36
kbrooks"Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines" to ubuntuguide10:36
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oggis there anyone got an explanation why windows platforms does feel much more snappy, responsive than linuxdistros.10:36
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doubleplusDoes the plug and play option in the bios make any diffrence to an install?10:37
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tiglionabbitogg: you may need to install a better kernel image10:37
oggI dont say windows platforms is technically faster, but its still more snappy.10:37
tiredbonesWhat's the easiest way to stop apache2 from start when I reboot?10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.< it's there damnit10:37
tiglionabbitogg: search synaptic for one for your architecture10:37
kickrocksmore broked maybe10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi am in it it exists >.<10:37
kbrookstiglionabbit, ^^^^^10:37
goldfishogg: what distros u tried?10:37
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, .10:37
kbrooksuse .10:37
oggubuntu, mandrake10:37
kickrocksME, 95, and 98 se ?10:37
JesusAteMyFaithogg, #politics is a good channel for debates10:37
oggxp, win2k.10:37
tiglionabbithehe10:38
othernoobogg, try gentoo then10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYboth are there destination and the origon10:38
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oggI now many other windows > linux switchers also think so.10:38
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tiglionabbitothernoob: don't scare him away10:38
kbrooksothernoob, dude10:38
othernooblol10:38
JonnyRoIs there any reason for the large number of md5sum mismatches i keep getting lately10:38
concept10ogg, I sure dont10:38
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: what does 'ls -d ./Desktop/Storage' say?10:38
JonnyRowhen downloading patches via synaptic?10:38
jgI'm getting them too....10:38
tiglionabbitogg: just make sure you have your video acceleration and the proper kernel, and it should be quite fast10:38
kbrooksJonnyRo, yes10:38
othernoobtiglionabbit, didn't he ask for a snappy one? ;)10:38
kbrooksjg: yes10:38
JonnyRokbrooks, what's up?10:38
oggtiglion. aight.10:38
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JesusAteMyFaithogg, everytime I format Windows for someone and install Linux, Jesus tapdances for joy in heaven10:38
HappyFoolheh10:39
kbrooksJonnyRo, use the main repo10:39
Big_Oumm10:39
jgkbrooks: which one is that?10:39
JonnyRokbrooks, is it because i have the backports repo setup?10:39
ogghehe. firefox really slows down the computer. but it does render all pages correctly. anyone know a faster browser?10:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYit says it's not there but i'm freakin lookin right at it O_O10:39
JonnyRoi'll turn that off10:39
JesusAteMyFaithogg, and it doesn't get more snappier than that10:39
cmathesonogg: links?10:39
Big_Ook, then O.o*cant adjust the volume*10:39
kbrooksJonnyRo, used the ubuntu guide?10:39
othernoobogg try lynx :)10:39
JesusAteMyFaithogg, w3m10:39
tiglionabbitJonnyRo: It is a good idea to comment out the backports mirrors when you are not using them10:39
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: not to be rude, but i'm going to believe the computer ;)10:40
kbrooksubotu, forget ubuntuguide10:40
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ubotukbrooks: i forgot ubuntuguide10:40
oggcmatheson, what?10:40
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: you're probably in the wrong directory, or something10:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can see it both in nautulus and in terminal10:40
kbrooksubotu, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:40
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ubotukbrooks: okay10:40
Big_Owhere is the audio config located?10:40
cmathesonogg: links, it's a browser10:40
JonnyRoyea, i used ubuntuguide.org10:40
JonnyRok10:40
concept10ogg, how much memory do you have?  do you have ipv6 disabled?10:40
ChurcH_of_FoamY/home/shane/Desktop/STORAGE10:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis where it is10:40
HappyFooland where are you?10:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can see it so the computer must be wrong10:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYin the same dir10:40
ogg128mb ram. yep. it does browse the sites quite fast. but the browser itself is slow.10:40
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: does 'pwd' say?10:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYin both term and naut10:40
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: what does 'pwd' say? (oops)10:41
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: writing absolute or relative paths correctly is important when using the commandline10:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamY/home/shane/Desktop10:41
kickrocksfirefox is a huge memory leak10:41
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: you want to be in /home/shane10:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYis what it says10:41
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: try 'cd'10:41
ogganyone got a "not test browser" but still fast-browser.10:41
ogg?10:41
oggtext browser10:41
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: and then try the 'cp' or whatever command again10:41
concept10ogg, your memory is the problem, not linux.10:41
othernoobopera ogg10:41
cmathesonogg: links has a graphical mode... i don't know if the ubuntu package has it or not, but you could go build it yourself10:42
Big_Oogg lynx O.o10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYcp: cannot create directory `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE': Read-only file system10:42
concept10ogg, links2 -g10:42
oggconcept. well. win2k on the same machine does run very smooth. but I assume firefox is the problem.10:42
kbrooksubotu, newbie network guidelines is <reply>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:42
ubotuokay, kbrooks10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<10:42
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: what are you copying to? an ntfs drive?10:42
oggthanks guys.10:42
kbrooksthere10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYno i changed it to ext310:42
bwlang_I have a program that uses python 2.3... but wxpython ends up in /usr/lib/python2.4 .  How can i get wxpython to install in /usr/lib/python2.3?10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYit was an ntfs drive10:42
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: changed it, or formatted it?10:42
concept10ogg are you using gnome?10:42
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: then you need to mount it rw10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYboth10:42
oggconcept, fluxbox.10:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYit is10:42
kbrooksHappyFool, read: ntfs10:42
oggon ubuntu hoary minimal install.10:42
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: heh. i believe the computer again :P10:43
oggfluxbox is really nice :)10:43
oggvery clean10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYhappyfool /dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYsee10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYit is lying10:43
HappyFoolhmm10:43
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: umount it, then mount it again, and tell me what mount says about it10:43
oggclean, fast window manager for linux owns :)10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYok10:43
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Big_Oit of a whore in ubuntu though ogg10:43
benplautwell, i'm off to try Breezy Live :)10:43
goldfishfluxbox rocks10:44
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kbrooksbenplaut, NO10:44
kbrooksbenplaut, NO10:44
kbrooksbenplaut, NO10:44
tiglionabbitlol10:44
benplautwhy not?10:44
Big_O>.< doesnt even have borders yet10:44
jgkbrooks: well, I get MD5 sum problems today....  Using us.archive.ubuntu.com10:44
tiglionabbitbenplaut: breezy is still in early development...10:44
kbrooksbenplaut, why are you trying to use breezy?10:44
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kbrooksbenplaut, read the topic dude10:44
benplautkbrooks: just to check it out, see how the development is going10:44
benplautyes, i know10:44
HappyFoolit's the live cd. lighten up, guys ;)10:44
benplauti have no plans to install, just live :)10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)10:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYstill looks the same10:45
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kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, show us the fstab entry for /storage?10:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYok10:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed the command using sudo10:46
HappyFoolhrm. i wonder why cp says 'read-only filesystem' in that case. bizarre10:46
tsumedamn it, whoever is in charge of packaging is 2 weeks late10:46
kickrockswhen I type apt-get update10:46
tiglionabbittsume: packaging what?10:46
oggdoin the x window screenshot / screendump in fluxbox. where does the images being saved?10:46
tsumeI moved 2 weeks ago from TN to AK10:46
kickrockseverything returns 404 ?10:46
tsumetiglionabbit: the cds10:46
tiglionabbito10:46
tiglionabbitthought you meant software10:46
tsumeI ordered 35 x86, 4 ppc, 4 amd6410:47
tsumeand damn it, now they are at the other house10:47
tiglionabbitkickrocks: is your sources.list in good condition?10:47
tiglionabbit!repositories10:47
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ubotumethinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm seems to let me copy if i sudo the command10:47
HappyFoolyour user needs rights to that dir10:48
kickrocksI just made the sources.list match the ubuntuguide10:48
goldfishkickrocks: dont10:48
goldfishit's bad10:48
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tsumedammit :)10:48
kbrooks!newbie network guidelines10:48
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:48
kbrookskickrocks, ^^^^^^^ read10:48
goldfish!sources10:48
ubotuhmm... sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3810:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYsudo cp -Rfv Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYPassword:10:48
goldfishand then go there kickrocks10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat command worked10:48
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HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: you can use 'chmod' to make your user ('shane') the owner of '/storage/shane'10:48
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh is that my probelm10:48
HappyFoolChurcH_of_FoamY: oops, chown10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYwiish i had known that before lol10:49
kickrocksthe 6 listed on the second URL are good ?10:50
luzbelitoa good .torrent web source please ???10:50
kickrockssnarf-it10:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYfrom fstab :10:50
othernoobluzbelito: for what?10:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1       /storage        ext3     defaults           0    010:50
kickrockstorrentspy or mininova10:50
kbrooks"Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all"10:50
kbrookskickrocks, ^^^^^^^^^^10:50
kickrockshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 i was asking if this link was accurate ?10:50
HappyFoolkickrocks: yip10:51
kbrooksit is10:51
luzbelitoothernoob: i wanna download movies10:51
s1m0hi, anyone could help me please with alsa? ubuntu doen't load my sound device10:51
othernoobpiratebay.org10:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea me to movies and music ^_^10:51
luzbelitomusic too10:51
kbrooksheh10:51
tiglionabbitkickrocks: accurate enough, yes those are all officially supported repositories that are by default simple there but commented out on the default install10:51
kbrookstiglionabbit, not all10:51
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tiglionabbits/simple/simply10:51
tiglionabbitkbrooks: true, the multiverse must be added10:52
kbrookser10:52
kickrockstiglionabbit, everything in the default file give me 40410:52
tiglionabbitkickrocks: is something wrong with your internet?10:52
kbrookstiglionabbit, universe isnt supported10:52
kickrocksnot that I am aware of10:52
nameless1php5 is not installing properly for me, is it possible for me to get a binary version?10:52
tiglionabbitkbrooks: well it's in the default sources.list10:52
kbrookspower cycle your modem10:52
tiglionabbitbut it does say it's unsupported10:53
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HappyFool404 means you are talking to the server, so your connection is probably fine10:53
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tiglionabbitHappyFool: why would it give him that error?10:54
kickrocksi am running on crap itanium though10:54
HappyFoolrepo broken, maybe10:54
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HappyFoolkickrocks: can you post an URL giving you a 404 ?10:55
jgwell, I'm getting MD5Sum errors consistently....10:55
kbrooksdinner's soon10:55
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kbrooksjg: paste your entire sources.list10:55
HappyFoolwhat, here?10:55
kbrookson a  pastebin10:55
jgkbrooks: what's a pastebin?10:55
kbrooksjg: one is in the topic10:56
HappyFooli'm getting some funny errors on apt-get update. i guess the repo is being updated, or something10:56
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doonzoh guys10:56
sentinelhi10:56
HappyFooljg: place to dump a lot of text, so we can view it10:56
HappyFooljg: dumping text in #ubuntu is considered rude10:56
doonzi have a digital camera is there software out there that will allow me to get my pics onto my comp?10:56
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lsuactiafnergphoto10:56
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kickrocksErr http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages10:56
doonzthat works with a canna camera?10:56
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spolaim having trouble with NFS can someone please help me?10:57
tiglionabbitkickrocks: shouldn't that be a -, not a / ?10:57
Blue_Summeranyone know what the command to download mozzila acitvex control is?10:57
kickrocks  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 10:57
Seveasdoonz, most cams work by simply plugging them in10:57
spolawhen i try to mount it says:mount: RPC: Programma niet geregistreerd10:57
ompaulprocrastinator, you took your time doing that!10:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYshit10:57
tiglionabbitBlue_Summer: mozilla does NOT support ActiveX.  Sorry10:57
Seveasdooglus, the ones that don't usually work with gphoto10:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething went wrong10:57
lsuactiafnerno idea, but works with several hundred10:57
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lsuactiafnergive it a shot10:57
procrastinatorompaul: What?10:57
Blue_Summertiglionabbit,  : root@ubuntu:/home/rob/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Valve/Steam # You need to install the Mozilla ActiveX control to10:57
Blue_Summerbe able to view webpages in this application10:57
kickrocksdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse10:58
kickrocksdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse10:58
jgkbrooks: done....10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYit was going good then started telling me about a read only filesystem10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYand quit >.<10:58
HappyFoolkickrocks: at a guess, things are a bit broken at the moment. try maybe again later, or tomorrow10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYcp: cannot create regular file `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE/ZoneAlarm_Pro_v5.5.062.zip': Read-only file system10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYis one of the errors10:58
ompaulprocrastinator, what does procrastinate mean :)10:58
nameless1can someone tell me if its possible to get a binary verson of php5 for ubuntu10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it startrd so well with the inital command10:58
Blue_Summertiglionabbit,  yes it does support it lol10:58
tiglionabbitHappyFool: you sure about that?  It's working for me10:58
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, well, make /storage/...../ writable then :)10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow?10:58
Seveasis it ntfs?10:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYno10:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYext310:59
mostrodibiscottiis there a vnc package that I can get with apt get10:59
Seveashmm10:59
HappyFooltiglionabbit: works now10:59
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod +w10:59
Blue_SummerSeveas, what's the command to download mozilla active x?10:59
Seveasread the manpage for chmod for details10:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYso chmod +w /storage?10:59
SeveasBlue_Summer, it doesn't support it10:59
procrastinatorompaul: It means postponing things, as in laziness10:59
HappyFooltiglionabbit: i often get hiccoughs with the repo -- maybe my isp's transparent http proxy is screwing me around *shrug*10:59
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oggis there any text-based "terminal-mode" mp3-player?11:00
Blue_SummerSeveas, there are loads of websites saying you can downloading the Mozilla AcitveX control11:00
tiglionabbitHappyFool: I'm pretty sure his sources.list is just messed11:00
ompaulprocrastinator, and you changed your name, I suggested you took your time, this to me was a touch of irony11:00
HappyFoolBlue_Summer: are those not perhaps for windows ?11:00
s1m0hi, anyone could help me please with alsa? ubuntu doen't load my sound device11:00
HappyFooltiglionabbit: could be11:00
SeveasBlue_Summer, for one: activeX is M$ crap11:00
Seveaswon't run on linux11:00
kickrocksdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse11:00
kickrocksdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse11:00
kickrocksare these incorrect11:00
Seveasand FF has no activeX at all...11:00
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HappyFoolkickrocks: no11:00
procrastinatorompaul: Oh, now i get it. I'm a little slow, as you know ;)11:00
othernoobdoesn't only IE have activeX?11:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm do i have to do anything after i do chmod +w?11:01
tiglionabbitkickrocks: just use the ones from here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 and you'll be fine11:01
HappyFoolok, i need to go to sleep11:01
kickrocksthat is what i used11:01
jgkbrooks: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42411:01
HappyFool*wave*11:01
kickrockstiglionabbit, I only have the 6 listed on that link exaclty how the link has them11:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecause it gives me the same errors still11:01
oggI did a X Window Snapshot. Where does the snapshot being saved?11:01
oggon the hd.11:01
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi must be the dumbest person here11:02
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<11:02
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: could be11:02
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: sorry =P11:02
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, can you paste the complete output on the pastebin :)11:02
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.< it's ok11:02
kickrocksfailed to fetch sounds to me like the problem is not on my end11:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYshure11:02
Seveaskickrocks, sometimes the repository is a bit in flux11:02
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: we should apologize for not listening to you about some things11:02
Seveaskickrocks, can you paste the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin11:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it's ok i understand you guys have to help alot of noobs like me11:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYand that it may get quite tiresome at times11:03
Seveas:)11:03
Seveasnoobs aren't tiresome11:03
kickrockshttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/11:03
Seveasignorant fools are11:03
kickrocksthe ia64 stuff is not there11:03
Seveasbtw, you are not an ignorant fool :)11:03
kickrocksis ia64 crap on a different server ?11:04
Seveaskickrocks, no11:04
kickrocksor is ia64 scrapped11:04
svecould someone help with getting started a USB TV Tuner, please.11:04
Seveasbut /dists is not the folder to look at :)11:04
Seveasyou want /pool/11:04
kickrocksthat is the directory the apt-get is trying11:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/30855611:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYtheres most of it11:04
Seveaskickrocks, can you paste the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin <--11:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe other stuff seems to have scrolled off of the terminal11:05
kickrocksyes11:05
kickrocksI am doing that now11:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi just don't know what i'm doing wrong11:05
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ogganyone if there is an text-based mp3 player for ubuntu?11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i must be doin somethn wrong11:06
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benplaut_that_ was an interesting experience...11:06
tiglionabbitogg: yes, mplayer11:06
cmathesonogg: mpg12311:06
cmathesonogg: or mpg32111:06
ogglike. play, stop, pause in the terminal =)11:06
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && mount | python pastebin11:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas huh and what?11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe hell is that?11:06
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maxy_noobI can't open google.com with Firefox in Ubuntu. Any ideas?11:06
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, command line pastebin poster ;)11:06
cmathesonogg: i saw an ncurses frontend to mpg321 on the ruby application repository thing... you could go to ruby-lang.org and search around11:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok11:07
Seveasyou can also just type mount and paste it manually :)11:07
BluesRockerI cant configure pppconfig, my modem won't dial :(11:07
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cmathesonmaxy_noob: check your network settings?11:07
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tiglionabbitwhat's the difference between mpg123 and mpg321 ?11:07
foolioioso, supposing I'd like to install firefox 1.0.411:07
maxy_noobI can open almost every other site11:07
foolioiowhat'd be the most elegant way to do that?11:07
Seveas321 is better11:07
cmathesontiglionabbit: i think one of them wasn't "free" enough so they started 32111:07
foolioiochange the sources.list?11:07
JDigital`foolioio: warty has it as standard11:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok this looks complicated11:07
JDigital`e11:07
tiglionabbitfoolioio: you already have 1.0.4, it's backported.  Change your version number11:07
JDigital`r11:07
JDigital`hoary11:07
JDigital`not warty11:07
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JDigital`there's a page about it somewhere11:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYall i wanna do is copy files >.<11:07
foolioiocool11:07
tiglionabbitfoolioio: type about:config into your address bar, and search for vendorsub.  Change the number there to 1.0.411:08
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, mount just gives some output that I want to look at :)11:08
JDigital`Can anyone recommend a decent ssh client?11:08
tiglionabbitJDigital`: ssh ?11:08
SeveasJDigital`, ssh :)11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so what is wget?11:08
Seveaswgwt is a download prog11:08
JDigital`ssh doesn't work on my machine11:08
woodwizzlewget is a command line downloading program11:08
foolioiotigionabbit: wait, that just changes the string?11:08
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: wget is uh, web-get.  It gets stuff from the web11:08
maxy_noobany idea why only google.com and merriam-webster online wouldn't be opening?11:08
JDigital`wget is a program that downloads a URL11:08
SeveasJDigital`, what is the problem..?11:08
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JDigital`http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=239698 <--- This is the problem.11:09
sebastjanpsudo apt-get openssh-server11:09
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JDigital`It's stumped me and a dozen people since February.11:09
JDigital`I want the client, not the server.11:09
kickrockshttp://pastebin/30855911:09
JDigital`which I have anyway.11:09
BluesRockercan I write AT country code in modem driver somehow?11:09
sebastjanphmm11:09
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sebastjanpwhy don't you use the terminal window11:10
SeveasBluesRocker, you can put it in the modemscript...11:10
ChurcH_of_FoamY http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/42511:10
BluesRockerhow?11:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYis that what you want?11:10
JDigital`terminal window?11:10
sebastjanpssh IP.ADRRESS11:10
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sebastjanpin terminal11:10
Seveaskickrocks, hmm, are you or your provider using a proxy?11:10
JDigital`sebastjanp: Like I just said, that doesn't work for me.11:10
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sebastjanphmm11:11
kickrocksi am at my job so there is a proxy11:11
procrastinatorDoes anyone have experience with Rosegarden?11:11
kickrocksbut this has worked before11:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/42511:11
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tiglionabbitprocrastinator: I tried installing it on ubuntu.  It crashed horribly11:11
SeveasJDigital`, try without ssh keys11:11
tiglionabbitprocrastinator: ima try it again11:11
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, od...11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamY?11:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething wrong?11:12
Seveasno11:12
Seveasthat's what's odd :)11:12
Firetechanyone know what can be wrong if I get "/etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:909: failed to obtain info for control #35 (No such file or directory)'." after compiling a vanilla kernel with the same options (except the new settings) as my old ubuntu patched one?11:12
procrastinatorIf I start jackd and then Rosegarden, the sequencer status says that the audio is ok, and that communication with Jack went as it should11:12
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, has it worked before?11:12
JDigital`Seveas: How do I do without ssh keys?11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYnever tryed it11:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand can't afford to loose the data11:12
SeveasJDigital`, move your ssh key out of the way :)11:12
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procrastinatortiglionabbit: Well, did you make it work with sound and everything?11:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYit is vital i have years of crap i can't afford to lose11:13
tiglionabbitprocrastinator: no..   it wont even start properly ={11:13
procrastinatorBut with jackd there's no sound11:13
JDigital`Where would my ssh key be?11:13
BluesRockerSeveas, what is modemscript?11:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYpics of family music and hard to find games11:13
JDigital`in .ssh?11:13
SeveasJDigital`, yes11:13
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: what's up chap?11:13
Seveasid_*.key11:13
procrastinatortiglionabbit: How far did you come?11:13
JDigital`There's nothing in .ssh except known_hosts11:13
JDigital`I deleted .ssh twice already11:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan't copy 32.2 gigs of stuff to a diffrent drive for some reason11:13
JDigital`no fix11:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit just dosen't like me or something11:14
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, maybe the disk is full..?11:14
kickrocksFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-ia64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 11:14
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: from which operating system>11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope it's not11:14
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procrastinatorI've also tried with qjackctl, and for some reason, Rosegarden won't really communicate with that11:14
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: to which filesystem?11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe original files where on an ntfs partition11:14
kickrocksif i see dist in the url and dist is incorrect where would dist come form11:14
JDigital`maybe you don't have permissions on the drive you're copying to11:14
tiglionabbitprocrastinator: typed rosegarden at terminal.  It shows a splashscreen saying "initializing view" in the corner, then pops up an error that says it couldn't initialize audio sequencing.  The gui that appears after that is completely unresponsive.  (this is rosegarden4 from synaptic)11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi took them of and put them in my ubuntu11:14
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JDigital`or the folder you're copying to11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYthen reformated the drive ext311:14
Seveaskickrocks, hmm, that happens to me too now11:15
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: you have the destination partition mounted?11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes11:15
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: what filesystem is it?11:15
JDigital`is it mounted ext3 now instead of ntfs11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the changes in fstab are there too11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes11:15
Seveaskickrocks, comment out hoary-updates for now and retry later11:15
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: can you ls the files in that partition?11:15
tiglionabbitdelire: he's already said it's ext311:15
procrastinatortiglionabbit, I went past that. I think it was nothing but modprobe snd-seq that did the trick.11:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYin which one?11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy ubuntu drive or the other one?11:15
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: in the one you're writing to11:15
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: what happens when you try to write to that partition?11:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes some of the files have been copyd and some have not11:16
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=== KarlosII it took out my power for a couple moments
procrastinatortiglionabbit: snd_seq even11:16
hooliganare mako there?11:16
hooliganare mako there?11:16
=== KarlosII says and just 20 minutes ago it was sunny
tiglionabbitprocrastinator: wow yay, that's much better!11:16
tiglionabbitprocrastinator: thanks11:17
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Seveashooligan, simply /whois mako11:17
Seveasand you'll see he's been idle for 9 hours :)11:17
procrastinatortiglionabbit: Well, just wait till you see the problems that come after that ;)11:17
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hooliganyeap, saw that11:17
BluesRockermy modem is installed, i hear signal, but it doesnt call number11:17
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: when copying files for backup, always use cp -a (archive). if you have some files copied, and some not, see cp -u (update) as this will only copy new files to the location in question.11:17
hooliganthx11:17
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JDigital`odd11:18
JDigital`What's cp -a?11:18
delireJDigital`: cp --archive11:18
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JDigital`I mean, what's it do?11:18
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natuhi....11:19
REWindHi! I just reinstalled my Windows and in the process lost my grub boot menu. Have anyone an idea how to get it back?11:19
delireJDigital`: it's a copy that preserves symlinks, copies recursively and preserves ownership11:20
JDigital`spiffy11:20
delireJDigital`: very cool, used by recovery specialists in fact.11:20
procrastinatorREWind: You need to run grub-install /dev/hda in some kind of GNU/Linux environment11:20
natuuse...the ubuntu....cd...11:20
procrastinatorREWind: That can be a LiveCD, a floppy, or your installed Ubuntu11:21
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natuit may help...11:21
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pfphmm, seems i need to compile the nvidia driver... could you suggest, which version to choose? (to avoid the x-frozen-mouse-pointer-moves-bug)11:21
REWindprocrastinator, I'm now in a liveCD.. so..11:21
SeveasREWind, wiki.ubuntu.com/recoveringgrubafterinstallingwindows11:21
itzhow cme if i "sudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home" in a terminal it works but if i do a "shortcut" with same i just see a blink on the screen and nothing happens?11:21
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procrastinatorREWind: Try if you can do grub-install /dev/hda11:21
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Seveasitz, because the terminal allows you to type a password for sudo11:22
natudoes....anyone...knows...a cool....c/c++ ide...linux...and with syntax...highlighting...11:22
Seveasthe gui not :)11:22
delirenatu: does that provide the option to grub-install?11:22
Seveasitz, try gksudo in the shortcut11:22
natuother...than...the tedious...gedit...vim...11:22
BluesRockerMicrosoft rules !!!11:22
delirenatu: i use vim but many swear by kdevelop11:22
natui am using gnome...man...11:22
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ompaulnatu there are several, xcoral, nedit, and xemacs11:22
oggmicrosoft is a bit of cult :)11:22
itzSeveas,  same shit :811:22
oggwindows machines..11:22
delirenatu: vim, emacs11:22
tiglionabbitnatu: how are gedit or vim tedious?11:23
ompaulnatu, really you need to find one you want to use11:23
natui dont...like...them..11:23
cmathesoni love the crap out of vim11:23
natuare very text oriented...11:23
delirecmatheson: ;)11:23
natui want something...more graphical...11:23
chromatehi... i'm just wondering if anybody knows a good way to keep two directories in sync? for example, if i have /mnt/ext and ~/files ... if a file changes/is added to /mnt/ext, i want that synched in ~/files and vice versa11:23
cmathesontext is what you're editing, why wouldn't they be text-oriented?11:23
itzdo i need to reboot or something since it could gotten hnaged up trying without gk?11:23
ompaulnatu, that is very naughty of you to use all those full stops with a world wide shortage of them :)11:23
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Seveasitz, by the way, running nautilus as root can totally screw up things...11:24
itzSeveas, ok? :/11:24
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itzHow can i browse my files in root level then?11:24
natui am talking..about...the fancy...things...just like...eclipse/visual studio...11:24
cmathesonitz: yu don't have to be root to browse the files11:24
tiglionabbitSeveas: aw cmon, don't tell him that11:24
natusudo cd /11:24
delireprocrastinator: won't REWind have to chroot to run the grub-install?11:24
cmathesonitz: you just can't change them11:24
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natutry it...11:24
pyro_chaoswats the name of the program that does package down and pre requirements also11:24
tiglionabbititz: only do it when you need to make admin changes11:24
bimberichromate: I use unison for that11:24
pyro_chaosdownload*11:24
itzYes how can i change files then...11:25
itzin gui11:25
tiglionabbititz: I think Seveas is afraid you'll delete something accidentally11:25
natuis anyone...interested ....in robocup...11:25
natu????11:25
cmathesonitz: just don't use the gui if you need to change files as root11:25
Seveastiglionabbit, it can fubare your .Xauth etc...11:25
chromatebimberi: is that free software?11:25
tiglionabbitSeveas: wha?11:25
budluvais there anyway i can get a rough location on an ip if its behind a dyndns service?11:25
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Seveasnatu, robocup is nice :)11:25
Seveasbudluva, dig the-dyndns-name11:26
natuhave...u tried..to setit up....in ubuntu...11:26
itzerhm... im not very used to linux and since commands are diferent from dos i would appriciate to use some kind of filemanager in root level :/11:26
natuthe simulator...11:26
Seveasand then host the-ip-address11:26
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pyro_chaoswats the name of the program that does package download and pre requirements also ?11:26
Seveasnatu, no11:26
signbarnWhat is the command to see the free space on my mounted drives?11:26
procrastinatordelire: Well, if grub-install exists on the live-cd, he won't need to. But otherwise, you're right.11:26
Seveassignbarn, df -h11:26
chromatebimberi: and more importantly, does it require a server to be running?11:26
bimberichromate: Yes indeed :) - available in an ubuntu repository (universe) near you11:26
cmathesonitz: read a HOWTO or something on the wiki... browsing the filesystem isn't difficult11:26
tiglionabbitpyro_chaos: synaptic11:26
natui am trying to compile some code....but..i am having some problems...11:26
tiglionabbitsignbarn: df11:26
bimberichromate: no11:26
pyro_chaosthats it thnx allot11:26
Seveasnatu, being..?11:26
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natui cant get the make-files to work....11:27
oggmaan. just running a terminal, x-chat and beep-media-player. doing a free -m show free Mem 2Mbyte!11:27
budluvaSeveas, 210.160.18.67.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer host.promptdns.com is what i get11:27
bimberichromate: I actually use it to backup to a remote server - but it can be used locally also11:27
Seveasnatu, can you paste the error on the pastebin11:27
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itzok but anyway running nautilus in root mode doesnt bugs up things as long as im changing stuff that doesnt belong to the system right?11:27
tiglionabbitnatu: well makefiles are complicated and picky.  They need to have tabs in them11:27
ogg-/+ buffers/cache shows 81Mbyte free.11:27
oggout of 128.11:27
Seveasbudluva, well, you can't get anymore than that11:27
budluvaSeveas, so the server's ip is still hiding behind that host.promtdns.com, how do i get the actual machine's ip address?11:28
eliUbuntuanyone wish to help out with a problem on startup?11:28
budluvaSeveas, ahh ok11:28
signbarnI know my video card & monitor can go up to 1600x1200 resolution, yet I don't get that option in the Screen Resolution menu. Is there anything I can do to force it?11:28
natui have put in console ...make...11:28
SeveaseliUbuntu, just ask :)11:28
tiglionabbitsignbarn: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the modes you want11:28
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natuand as answer...i received...a message...saying..that...there were no makefile11:28
ivoksSeveas: hi11:28
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natuin the current...directory.....11:28
eliUbuntuok, the gdm screen comes up with no problem. but when i log in the splash screen never initiates11:28
Seveasivoks, 'lo11:29
natubut the makefiles...are there...11:29
tiglionabbitnatu: =\11:29
wildtangentn00b question, how do i determine what my kernel version i?11:29
eliUbuntuit just sits there11:29
tiglionabbitwildtangent: uname -a11:29
itzi think its a bit bad to have so high res and hz default i also had to change in xorg.conf  not very nice for noobs :D11:29
Seveasnatu, can you skip using so many '...' please....11:29
natuthe extensions....of make file are tpml11:29
Seveaswildtangent, uname -r11:29
natuwhy????11:29
Seveasnatu, it's annoying11:29
pfpsignbarn: you may need to add your monitor's specs to that file (horizsync and vertrefresh)11:29
natuare....phobic11:29
eliUbuntui think it may be related to trying to uninstall evolution11:29
natu???11:29
natuhehehe11:29
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eliUbuntuafter i saw what i removed i reinstalled it11:29
chromatebimberi: thanks for the recommendation i'll check it out!11:29
natuok i'll try11:30
tiglionabbit!resolution11:30
ubotusomebody said resolution was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:30
SeveaseliUbuntu, drop to a console with <ctrl><alt><f1>, log in there and remove .ICEauthority11:30
bimberichromate: yw :)  hope it fills your needs!11:30
othernoobjust curious, are the 686 kernels stable now?11:30
ivoksothernoob: allways bin11:30
Seveasothernoob, they have been since the beginning...11:30
chromateanother problem i seem to be having: i have usb-storage and ehci/ohci modules loaded, and when i plug in a remote storage device it triggers in the system logs, usb mass storage recognizes it, it identifies the device, but it fails to create a node which i can access it from (for example, /dev/sda)11:30
ivoksbin :)) been11:30
ompaulitz, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html and search for the word visual that will help you understand something of a possible layout, you will get the major features from it11:30
eliUbuntuthen try to reboot gnome afterwards?11:31
eliUbuntuafter rm the file?11:31
SeveaseliUbuntu, yes11:31
eliUbuntuok11:31
itzompaul,  ok11:31
eliUbuntuthanks11:31
ivokschromate: that11:31
eliUbuntulet me try11:31
delirechromate: what is the exact error?11:31
ivokschromate: that's official kernel?11:31
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ivokschromate: sd modul isn't loaded11:31
chromatedelire: i don't get an error. it just stops progressing in the mount sequence11:31
delirechromate: try modprobe sd11:32
chromateivoks: yes, it used to work before. i'm not sure what happened.11:32
Wegg_Hey. . . can anyone pont me to a good network bandwidth monitor?11:32
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SeveasWegg_, bwm11:32
othernoobSeveas: they haven't been for me on ubuntu11:32
chromateivoks: let me try that one sec11:32
ivokschromate: restart hotplug (sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart)11:32
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eliUbuntuok, still no splash screen, even after removing .ICE*11:32
ompaulitz, it is really a very bad idea to naivagate a file system using a graphical tool - once you take an action - that is it, and accidents can lead to game over feelings, not really nice11:32
eliUbuntui see the mouse cursor though11:32
chromateivoks: module sd not found11:32
itzompaul, thats how it work in ms / windows i dont have a roblem with it11:33
tiglionabbitompaul: stop telling him that.  There is a friggin TRASH, you can restore files!11:33
eliUbuntuthere is no hard drive activity as well11:33
eliUbuntujust sits there11:33
eliUbuntushould i do a memtest?11:33
ivokschromate: sd_mode11:33
ivokschromate: sd_mod11:33
ivokschromate: pardon :)11:33
Wegg_I'll try that Seveas.  Thanks.11:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas why can't i copy if everythings ok?11:33
tiglionabbititz: don't let them get to you.  Hehe, I'm actually weaning myself off the console to take advantage of the prettyness of ubuntu recently11:33
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, no idea, maybe the kernel module has flipped11:34
itztiglionabbit,  hehe11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats that mean?11:34
Seveastry unmounting and remounting /storage11:34
tiglionabbititz: I think the best solution for you would be to make a little launcher on your desktop that calls the command "gksudo nautilus" for when you want to do your admin-ing stuf11:34
eliUbuntuSeveas, when you said drop to a console, xterm right?11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas been there done that but what do you mean flipped?11:35
TimmyJanyone know how to get https support in gftp? I get this error "HTTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection."11:35
itztiglionabbit, well thats were it stared... this doesnt work: gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home11:35
SeveaseliUbuntu, no, just hit <ctrl><alt><F1> in the login screen or the hung gnome session11:35
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chromateivoks: no luck :-/11:35
delireeliUbuntu: he probably means CTRL-ALT-F1, a real console (not a virtual one like xterm)11:35
tiglionabbititz: no desktop?11:35
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, flipped out, gone crazy11:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok11:35
ivokschromate: no module?11:35
itztiglionabbit, something blinks but nothing happens11:35
chromateivoks: there's a module, but no device node is created on load11:35
itzbut if i do it in a terminal it works11:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo you have any suggestions on what i could do to get the data off of my hard drive?11:36
tiglionabbititz: tried just gksudo nautilus?  It should make a graphical password window11:36
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delirechromate: can you post the exact error?11:36
ivokschromate: reinsert your flash again11:36
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tiglionabbit!guiadmin11:36
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit11:36
Wegg_what total KB/sec should I expect from a Gigabit card?11:36
eliUbuntuk, rebooting the computer and we will see what happens. what is ICEauthority? thanks for your help Seveas and delire11:36
ivoksWegg_: 60MB/s11:36
Wegg_I'm getting around 2000 KB/s11:37
chrissturmWegg_, 60-7011:37
tiglionabbitubotu guiadmin is create a launcher on your desktop with the command "gksudo nautilus"11:37
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit11:37
chromateivoks, delire: here is what happens in the syslog upon plugin: http://pastebin.com/30856711:37
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natuzinhois there anyone from mozambique....11:37
tiglionabbit!guiadmin11:37
uboturumour has it, guiadmin is create a launcher on your desktop with the command "gksudo nautilus"11:37
itztiglionabbit, that works.... but why does the other thing just work in terminal? :/11:37
Seveas!forget guiadmin11:37
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ubotuSeveas: i forgot guiadmin11:37
tiglionabbititz: what other thing?11:37
Seveastiglionabbit, please don't feed it bad things...11:37
itzsudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home11:37
tiglionabbitubotu forget guiadmin11:37
tiglionabbitSeveas: okay, I phrased that badly, but still it's a useful entry11:38
Seveastiglionabbit, no11:38
ivokschromate: well, everything is ok11:38
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Seveasrunning nautilus as root is bad11:38
tiglionabbitSeveas: WHY?11:38
chromateivoks: but there are no /dev/sd* nodes created11:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow long does it take for sudo to clear it's self from memory?11:38
chrissturmha, gksudo nautilus, great!11:38
Seveastiglionabbit, as I said: it can FUBAR your .Xauth / .ICEauthority..11:38
itzSeveas, yes why11:38
tiglionabbitSeveas: how and why?11:38
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Wegg_So I'm getting 2mb/s and I should be getting 60?  No way. . . hard drives can't even do 60. . .11:38
ivokschromate: ls -dl /dev/sda11:38
delirechromate: it looks fine11:38
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itzSeveas, is there any other tool that doesnt do that?11:39
chromateivoks: no such file or directory11:39
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procrastinatorTres.11:39
Seveastiglionabbit, search bugzilla/forums, happened to lots of people11:39
ivokschromate: ls -dl dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part111:39
kbrooksuh?11:39
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chrissturmWegg_, if you try to copy files its much less.11:39
Big_Oi need a sound mixer to start with fluxbox11:39
kbrooksSeveas, what happened to lots of people11:39
chromateivoks: for some reason there is no scsi directory in there11:39
tiglionabbitSeveas: where's that?  Can you give me an example?11:40
delirechromate: i would look for changes in /dev/sd* when you plug and unplug the device to see which device node is created.11:40
rep2i have java installed, but it will only work by "./java -version". How do i get the command "java -version" working?11:40
Seveaskbrooks, .ICEauth /.Xauth got fubar -> next login hangs11:40
chromatedelire: that's the thing, there are NO /dev/sd* nodes11:40
Wegg_I just can't even figure out if this gigabit card is working11:40
Wegg_I got a kind of no-name brand card.11:40
Wegg_Zyxel.11:40
ivokschromate: did you mess with udev?11:40
chromateivoks: i don't believe so11:40
kbrooksSeveas, er, define hangs11:40
eliUbuntuSeveas: your recommendation worked. Thank you for your help. May I ask what is ICEauthority and why prevented ubuntu from loading correctly?11:40
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ivokschromate: you don't belive or you didn't? :)11:40
XenguyAre there any Ubuntu developers in the house currently?11:40
chromateivoks: i haven't touched the kernel, haven't changed any software unless it was included in some recent apt-get update/upgrade11:41
kbrooksSeveas, a chown user:user then a chmod solved it11:41
kbrooksfor me11:41
Seveaskbrooks, it's like what happened to eliUbuntu, after entering your password, gnome hangs, you never get even the splash screen11:41
bddebianXenguy: Why do you ask?11:41
Seveaskbrooks, sure11:41
ivokschromate: ok11:41
Seveasbut it still is a bad thing because of this11:41
delireivoks: maybe he's installed udev or something11:41
Seveasnot everyone knows it11:41
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tiglionabbitSeveas: what am I looking for?  Could you give me an example?11:41
kbrooksSeveas, i inadvertently said chmod 666 in a terminal once on debian11:41
ivoksdelire: udev should be instalated11:41
Big_Ook whats the comand for the sound mixer11:41
kbrooksSeveas, and debian gnome didnt start11:42
Seveastiglionabbit, search for 'login problem' 'Iceauthority' 'no splash'11:42
ArkainiumHmm, I spotted these two lines in my syslog, but can't understand what they mean.  I have a brand new hard drive installed.  Jul  6 17:08:29 localhost kernel: ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }11:42
ArkainiumJul  6 17:08:29 localhost kernel: ata1: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }11:42
bddebianHeya nalioth11:42
ivokschromate: and there is no /proc/scsi?11:42
Big_Oalsamixer is saying something about elems11:42
SeveasBig_O, alsamixer11:42
delireivoks: debian here.. well perhaps he should look at /dev/ub* then11:42
ivokschromate: and there is no /dev/scsi?11:42
chromateivoks:  there is a /proc/scsi, but no /dev/scsi11:42
naliothhowdy11:42
SeveasArkainium, hmm, run fsck on these disks...11:42
ivoksdelire: /dev/ub*?11:42
ivokschromate: lsmod | grep scsi11:42
naliothbeen quite an interesting day11:42
Big_Otried it already Seveas its not working11:42
JDigital`Can anyone recommend a decent ssh client?11:42
kbrooksSeveas, then i chose to (out of my noobness) reboot and use single, then do these 2 commands i mentioned above11:43
JDigital`ssh doesn't work on my machine11:43
ivokschromate: doh, you have scsi module... :(11:43
chromateivoks: in fact there's a file called /proc/scsi/usb-storage/4 that has the information of my drive11:43
ivokschromate: khm...11:43
ArkainiumSeveas, how can I boot up without mounting the disk?11:43
SeveasArkainium, live cd :)11:43
chromateivoks: yep, scsi_mod is there and its linked to usb_storage, sd_mod, libata, sr_mod,sbp4211:43
delireivoks: yes, i for instance, mount usb storage devices to '/dev/uba       /usb            vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0'11:43
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kbrooksSeveas, i know rebooting is overkill, but .....11:43
delirenalioth: very interesting day ;)11:43
tiglionabbitSeveas: it looks like most people with that problem had a problem with their graphics card, or something else11:43
eliUbuntuSeveas: was using root for something cause the .ICEauthority problem?11:43
tiglionabbitSeveas: is there an example you can give me?11:43
kbrooksSeveas, actually, it was 644, not 66611:43
Seveaskbrooks, how are newbies going to associate not logging in without apparent reason with .ICEauthority..?11:43
Big_ONo mixer elems found << i get this when i try to use alsa mixer11:44
ivokschromate: that's hoary?11:44
Seveastiglionabbit, not off th top of my head11:44
ArkainiumSeveas, grr.  :P  I searched google and it seems that most people who get this problem get a bunch of these errors in their syslog.  I only spotted two.  I *have* been getting some system lock ups lately though.  So the only *real* way to diagnose is by checking the filesystem?11:44
chromateivoks: yup11:44
naliotheliUbuntu: the .ICEauthority thing is a known cross architextural problem, i dont think root has anything to do with it11:44
tiglionabbitSeveas: well you said there's lots, so you should be able to find one pretty easily, right?11:44
SeveaseliUbuntu, it's a believable cause...11:44
chromateivoks: like i was saying it used to work before... though for some reason only once, then i'd have to reboot... but now it just doesn't work at all11:44
SeveasArkainium, that and smartmontools11:44
Seveascheck your disk with both11:45
ivokschromate: sudo apt-get --reinstall install udev11:45
ArkainiumSeveas, ok.. thanks for the help.  one more thing though, should I run fsck with any special options?11:45
ivokschromate: and try with other flash drives11:45
kbrooksSeveas, I inadvertenly did chmod 644 in ~ on Debian before, and I could not log on to whatever DE I was using, so I ended up having to chmod and chown11:45
tiglionabbitSeveas: it would be nice if you could tell me a concrete reason why sudo nautilus would cause this11:45
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SeveasArkainium, not neccessarily11:45
chromateivoks: i get the same behavior from my hard drive and my ipod11:45
delirechromate: are you sure that's the full output after insertion of the usb key?11:45
ArkainiumSeveas, ok.  thank you11:45
chromateivoks: should i stop hotplug or anything before reinstalling udev?11:45
Seveastiglionabbit, have you been reading at all..?11:45
ivokschromate: sudo apt-get --reinstall install udev - this could solve it11:45
chromatedelire: yes11:45
ivokschromate: no, just run this11:46
kbrookstiglionabbit, because nautilus is a X client11:46
Seveasnautilus can chmod .ICEauthority and .Xauth11:46
Seveasand then gnome won't read them11:46
Seveasand then login hangs11:46
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kbrooksand because it chmods .ICEauthority and .Xauthority11:46
ivoksptlo: hi11:46
tiglionabbitSeveas: why would nautilus do that?11:46
kbrooksto 64411:46
tiglionabbitand when11:46
chromateivoks: how about after11:46
Seveastiglionabbit, because the programmers tell it to11:46
Seveasget some clue...11:46
ivokschromate: reinsert your flash11:46
tiglionabbitSeveas: no, I mean when and why does it?11:47
Seveastiglionabbit, when it is running...11:47
kbrookstiglionabbit, #gnome and figure out why11:47
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ptlooo ivox heya :)11:47
chromateivoks: no luck :-/11:47
Seveasnautilus is not designed to be run as root, so won't be extra cerful with these files...11:47
Seveascareful*11:47
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chromateit says it mounts at /dev/scsi/host5/bus0/target0/lun0: but that directory does not even exist!11:47
kbrooksuh11:48
ivokschromate: so, same behavoiur with every usb device?11:48
chromateivoks: yes11:48
bojangleswell is this damn thing going to work11:48
Seveass/as root/with sudo/11:48
ivoksbroken scsi modules?11:48
bojanglesthis breezy sure has a lot of problems...but it is getting there11:48
chromateshould i reload them?11:48
ptloivoks, i got a apt-fu question: is there an easy way to see all the dependancies for a package (recursively listing all the packages that one depends upon)?11:48
ivokschromate: sure11:48
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bojanglesbut will it hold up11:48
delireptlo: apt-cache show <package>11:49
ArkainiumSeveas, to run smartmontools I need to enable S.M.A.R.T. support in my BIOS?11:49
delireptlo: i like pbdv however11:49
ivoksptlo: apt-cache rdepends <package>11:49
SeveasArkainium, yes11:49
rasputnik I'm getting a lot of 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!11:49
sls_how do you make a kickstart for ubuntu11:49
Xenguybddebian: back - I'm trying to install a Citrix client, and I think it may want a package called 'libmotif3'.  When I tried apt-file, dpkg -l, apt-cache search, etc., sometimes the package would appear, but sometimes not.  It doesn't seem to be available for install (in Hoary).  What I'm really looking for is 'Openmotif' (Citrix wants it).  Any clues?11:49
sls_??11:49
ivoksptlo: sorry, depends11:49
tiglionabbitoo neat11:49
rasputnikfrom apt - using what I think is backports?11:50
ivoksptlo: rdepends is to show packages depending on it11:50
Seveasptlo, apt-cache depends --recurse $packagename11:50
kbrooksSeveas, huh.....11:50
delireSeveas: yes that's better.11:50
foolioioso, i'm not sure i understand how to install firefox 1.0.4 on Hoary11:50
kbrooksrecursion?11:50
kbrooks:|11:50
ChurcH_of_FoamY sudo cp -Rfv Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE11:50
tiglionabbitfoolioio: you already have it11:50
chromateivoks: no work11:50
ivoksfoolioio: it allready is 1.0.411:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy does this command crap out on me11:50
kbrooksfoolioio, 1.0.4 already11:50
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tiglionabbitfoolioio: I told you a while ago how to change the about:config vendorsub line to 1.0.411:51
foolioioivoks: cool, but it says 1.0.211:51
naliothSeveas: you need to enable S.M.A.R.T in the bios to check a 'smart' hard drive?11:51
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, error message11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to make the computer copy the data no matter what errors11:51
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ChurcH_of_FoamYare incounterd11:51
tiglionabbitfoolioio: it has all features backported11:51
Seveasnalioth, I thought so...11:51
bojanglesthere sure is not much to work with at this time....even x is somewhat broken....and no gtkam or anything....but some basics have been better thought out11:51
ptloivoks, delire, seveas: thanks!11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYcp: cannot create regular file `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE/ZoneAlarm_Pro_v5.5.062.zip': Read-only file system11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYit starts off normal then says that11:51
ivoksfoolioio: diff beetwean 1.0.2 and 1.0.4 are security fixes, wich ubuntu's firefox 1.0.2 allready has11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYafter like 10 minutes11:51
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, no, no way11:51
ivokschromate: :/11:51
naliothSeveas: thought it read straight from the ide/sata/scsi bus11:51
Seveashmm11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat?11:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYkbrooks?11:52
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foolioiotiglionabbit: ok, but why not call it 1.0.4 from the getgo?11:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: is the disk full?11:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYno11:52
tiglionabbitfoolioio: cuz it's backported.  Don't ask me11:52
chromateivoks: i'll try upgrading to the latest official kernel. a side note, any idea why gaim is held back to 1.1.4?11:52
othernoobfoolioio because ubuntu is gay like that.11:52
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, you cant force cp to copy no matter what11:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYshit11:52
ivokschromate: held?11:52
delireptlo: np if you want recursion the yes, apt-cache depends --recurse. just straight depends, apt-cache show is ok.11:52
bojanglesanyway it is about time that gentoo and ubuntu kicked debians ass into the ground.11:52
foolioiotiglionabbit othernoob: fair enough11:52
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chromateivoks: the most recent version in the repositories is 1.1.411:53
ivokschromate: ubuntu comes out every 6 months11:53
bddebianXenguy: The only thing I see is libmotif :-(11:53
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, add it, and bang, errors would occur over the place11:53
foolioio tiglionabbit othernoob: i saw that breezy has a 1.0.4, is there a way to sync up with that one?11:53
ivokschromate: when it's released, no new programs go in11:53
tiglionabbitfoolioio: it wouldn't really be a problem if mozilla didn't decide you need the newest version in order to get their addons11:53
ivokschromate: only bugfixes11:53
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Xenguybddebian: any idea if it provides 'openmotif' ?11:53
chromateivoks: ah.11:53
tiglionabbitfoolioio: there is like, no difference.  Don't worry about it11:53
kbrookschromate, hoary is walled offf to new programs11:53
bojanglesfoolioio, there is not much to work with at this time...but the basics are available11:53
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bojanglesfoolioio, and much better thought out11:53
kbrooksfoolioio, do not upgrade to breezy11:54
chromateivoks, delire: well thank you guys for your help, i'm gonna try rebooting.11:54
ivokschromate: if you want, you could create me acc on yout comp to do a fast check11:54
foolioiokbrooks: okay, i'll try the about:config hack11:54
foolioiothanks for clarifying11:54
chromateivoks: if the reboot doesn't work i'll be back11:54
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ivoksok11:54
bojanglesfoolioio, now we just have to port these basics over to the hurd...and be finished with a free os.11:54
chromatethx11:54
kbrooksfoolioio, try it, but .... ;)11:54
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tiglionabbit!firefox11:55
ubotu[firefox]  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c311:55
dszaboneed help with .deb package11:55
dszaboto install i need super user privelages11:55
chrissturmwhat do i need to change in /etc/sudoers to not have to enter the password for a command?11:55
kbrooksdszabo, ask11:55
tiglionabbitdszabo: you want to "dpkg --install something.deb" ?11:55
tiglionabbitdszabo: use sudo11:55
tiglionabbit!sudo11:55
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:55
Seveasdszabo, sudo dpkg --install dilename.deb11:55
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bddebianXenguy: Dunno, not much info on it11:56
dszaboi'm a newb at ubuntu, been using MEPIS :-)11:56
dszabothanks for the help11:56
ivoksbddebian: :)11:56
naliothchrissturm: in /etc/sudoers, nothing11:56
Xenguybddebian: thanks, I'll wing it then.  If I get citrix going, I'll add to the FAQ on the wiki (don't have a lot of time at work, but have been trying for a few days now, and no joy)11:57
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SysFailwhats with this firefox cant do addons thing?11:58
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chrissturmnalioth, but?11:58
freddy_addons?11:58
tiglionabbit!firefox11:58
ubotu[firefox]  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c311:58
bddebianXenguy: According to the packages website it provides OpenMotif development files11:58
ateveshi! i have a windows partition on /dev/hda1 and i can mount it without any problems. but when i try to mount the second windows partion on /dev/hda2, my system freezes11:58
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SysFailyeah I read that... comment 3 makes no sense11:59
tiglionabbitSysFail: you must change the vendorsub line to 1.0.4.  Type about:config in your address bar11:59
SysFailok11:59
ernstpnot much activity on the bugday?11:59
tiglionabbitbugday?11:59
Xenguybddebian: tx for the tip.  Seems libmotif is replaced by lesstif2 in Hoary, which I already have installed, so we'll see.11:59
bddebianateves: It can only handle so much non-free partitions at a time.. ;-)11:59
Seveasernstp, #ubuntu-devel11:59
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