=== StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@spc1-bexl1-3-0-cust215.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] Unfrgiven, no idea === anibal [ams@ns1.mssinc.biz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [~chatzilla@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] siretart: yay :) === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~amaranth@AC8BF933.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Am|NickTaken [amaranth@AC8A4A3A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Am|NickTaken [~amaranth@ACA3C534.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrissturm [~chris@83-65-246-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] is there a howto how to package eclipse plugins for the 3.1 eclipse in breezy? [03:20] chrissturm, talk to wasabi === Am|NickTaken [amaranth@AC9CDEF6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] thx ogra === chrissturm makes a tomboy note [03:22] tomboy note? [03:22] i made a note in tomboy to talk to wasabi about eclipse [03:23] Oh, tomboy has a different connotation for me. :-) [03:25] ifolder looks really nice. i hope there will be an open source ifolder server once === slomo [~slomo@p5487EF94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] damn, I'm drowning... === Amaranth [amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [~aks@CPE00112f96b894-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] afternoon [05:16] <|QuaD-> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=69 -> almost released :) [05:17] ajmitch!!! [05:17] bddebian: yes? [05:17] Just Hi! :-) [05:18] hello [05:20] |QuaD-: almost? [05:20] <|QuaD-> ajmitch: its up there, which is a start ;) [05:21] yes, but needs a bit of loving on the issues listed in the comments :) [05:21] <|QuaD-> haha yea === kUser [~ubuntu@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kUser [~ubuntu@68-115-99-68.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.2.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] lol@planet.gnome.org [07:45] morning [07:46] morning [07:47] Lathiat: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/b/bzflag/2.0.2.20050318ubuntu1/ :( [07:48] Lathiat: I tried it yesterday in pbuider, where it did build. can you check whats going on? [07:48] bah [07:48] yeh it built in pbuilder here too [07:48] will look [07:49] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [07:49] xlibmesa-gl-dev: Depends: x11proto-gl-dev but it is not going to be installed [07:49] E: Broken packages [07:49] i blame daniels ;p [07:49] apt-get failed. === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.2.dynamic.phpg.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487C73F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [~mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] slomo: just in case you have time, could you please have a look at http://www.debian-unofficial.org? I think might be interesting for MOTUMedia === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt1.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-away [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] today will be The funny day :) === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] update.microsoft.com, v6, lol :) [09:48] <\sh> houston, we have a problem [09:49] <\sh> hp nc6000 laptop hd is dieing [09:49] <\sh> read error detected, selftest negative, said: please call support hotline :( === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] \sh: bugger. [10:27] hi \sh [10:39] <\sh> nice..tomorrow morning my new harddrive will be delivered [10:40] sounds great :) [10:41] <\sh> wow...and the first time I got a real reply on a bug filed at debian...they're starting with the cxx transition ;) [10:41] <\sh> but it means, I have to reinstall everything :( [10:46] \sh, make a backup :) [10:47] <\sh> ogra: home is backuped alread :) [10:47] <\sh> i made it this morning :) === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] <\sh> *rotfl* [10:53] <\sh> "Customer can't rename INBOX in Posteingang" === HostingGeek is now known as Mircosoft === Mircosoft is now known as HostingGeek === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt0.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@d042151.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt5.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] <\sh> fck...explosions in london *jesus* not again all this crap [12:10] yep :(( [12:11] i'm glad i'm back again [12:11] http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=London+Explosions [12:11] <\sh> jane and mark are gone from london as well? [12:11] <\sh> and all the other people from us? [12:12] \sh, everybody is ok.... [12:13] <\sh> sorry, to ask, but the last time (9/11) when we heard about it, I was just involved with some guys from C&W, and they were very near the places where all this was happening... [12:15] <\sh> ok...lunch time === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-4093.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089E56A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089E56A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] <\sh> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm <- terror attack [02:15] krass === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable134.23-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] siretart: not krass. bad [02:58] mitsuhiko: really really bad. :( [02:59] <\sh> actually it's the best time for that crap...CIA made a good job again === herzi [~herzi@d024213.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] Morning [03:27] hi. [03:28] this is the morning when london was blown up. [03:28] Yes :-( [03:35] someone from London here? [03:37] <\sh> well, from my ex, her sister and her niece and husband + baby living there. The husband is working in the banking area of london. [03:37] <\sh> I'm really concerned...I just talked to her, and she didn't watch any tv so she didn't know about it [03:38] <\sh> now she's going crazy and trying to call anybody in london === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] that's what everybody does, so the cellphone network is probably jammed. had a user in another channel trying to call someone earlier.. [03:41] i'm actaully starting to like konsole. beeing a hardcore aterm user for a few years.. these tabs are space saving. [03:43] uniq: but konsole eats memory [03:45] haven't noticed anything yet, but you're right.. it uses alot. [03:47] well.. i'll have to go out do some outdoor things.. the sun is shining and the temperature is ~25C. [03:47] later. [03:47] uniq: 14C and rain ;( [03:48] and i'm lying with 38C fever and flu in my bed, the notebook on my knees === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] sounds bad. :| [03:50] \sh: good blog entry. full ack === sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] <\sh> mitsuhiko: thx === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] hey. sistpoty did his first debian package and uploaded it to revu! :) [04:27] great :) === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] tritium!! [04:30] hey there bddebian :) [04:31] tritium: Did you ever get a hold of the guy to package gourmet? [04:32] bddebian, no, Willis never responded to me [04:32] tritium: I started to try [04:32] bddebian, how's it going? [04:32] tritium: It isn't :-( [04:33] bddebian, oh...I'll see if I can help a bit [04:33] siretart: almost everything multimedia related in debian-unofficial is already in ubuntu ;) only exception seems to be libdvdcss [04:36] css will never get into the ubuntu repositories [04:41] WOW, hanging out in #ubuntu shows me how much I HAVE learned and how much I still don't know... [04:41] :-( [04:45] Hmm, did I scare everyone away again?? :-) === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.49] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] slomo: great. I wonder why he does redistribute libdvdcss, and what its legal status is [05:03] slomo: I think that we should anyway have at his repository, I read that he plans to import more and more stuff, like mplayer e.g. [05:03] siretart: marillat's repository and ubuntu-backports-extras also include libdvdcss ;) but about the legal status... no idea [05:04] bddebian: do you happen to be a member of ubuntu backports? [05:04] and happen to know about the legal status of libdvdcss? [05:04] siretart: No, should I be? :-) [05:05] bddebian: I lost the overview ;) - I know that Mez and jdong is.. [05:05] siretart: I'm a backports member ;) i think regarding libdvdcss you should ask jdong [05:05] siretart: I'm just the #ubuntu-motu jester according to ogra ;-) [05:05] slomo: ah, I didn't know. good to know :) [05:05] ;) [05:07] afaik libdvdcss only breaks the dmca and maybe also some german law (don't know any other)... circumvention of copy protection === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] well the US is a pretty big market. [05:08] "oh its only illegal in the US, ship it!" [05:09] besides that backports are hosted in the US [05:09] marillat is not [05:09] tseng: haven't said that ;) imho such things should stay away from the official ubuntu packages [05:09] hmm. a case for non-US ;) [05:10] siretart: eh, its non-us nonfree [05:10] restricted [05:10] etc [05:10] how about 'software-not-for-us-citizen' ;) [05:10] i use it [05:11] but i wouldnt dream of hosting it [05:11] ok, lets get back serious. I think I understand the problem.. [05:11] siretart: it is afaik also illegal in germany since the middle of 2004 ;) [05:11] ic [05:11] understand it all you want, backports cant host it, and they certainly cant import it [05:12] to an official tree [05:18] is there some simple way to get the reverse dependencies of some package (i.e. every package which depends on it)? [05:18] apt-cache rdepends [05:19] thanks === GazerWork [~gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] slomo: for builddependencies however, you need to use grep-dctrl [05:26] yeah, kio-locate got accepted and build cleanly on all arches. [05:26] will nuke it from revu [05:27] siretart: archive it? [05:30] tseng: I think we should define workflow and states of packages/uploads.. Burgundavia already requested the possibility to upcheck and downcheck uploads.. [05:31] yes [05:31] we already specced the workflow [05:31] New [05:31] Needs Work [05:31] Ready for Upload [05:31] Archived [05:32] if someone uploads a new one for needs work [05:32] it goes back to New [05:32] the rest are obvious [05:32] 3 upchecks on a New package -> Ready for Upload [05:32] the archive gives us a fast view of a contributor when he goes to TB === Mithrandir [~tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0955.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0955.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Would anyone mind looking at this lintian error for me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434 === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] that's a dpkg-source error [06:19] jamessan|work: How do I fix it? === bddebian feels no love === blueyed [~daniel@i528C3EA0.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] :) === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === comadreja [~comadreja@80.224.108.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herz1 [~herzi@d024213.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herz1 [~herzi@d024213.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:03] <\sh> ok..no compiling for today anymore [08:03] <\sh> i need to w8 for the new hd [08:18] howdy === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] \sh: joy [08:19] I'm willing to help, do I have to assign myself some task or could somebody tell me what to do ? [08:23] <\sh> check malone, and try to fix some bugs :) [08:24] thanks ! === JanC [~janc@dD5764BEC.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] \sh, or the rdepends of libstc5++ ? [08:25] libstc++5 [08:28] <\sh> yeah [08:28] <\sh> but let me do it tomorrow [08:29] <\sh> i will poke the buildds ;) [08:34] \sh, its a good task for newcomers [08:35] <\sh> but I want to know first, from where the diff between 500 and 570 comes [08:37] sure === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1720.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] funiest URL ever [09:33] http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu [09:33] one osx freek, after reading this text, said "this guy should get nobel prize for literature" === rem_ [~rem@adsl-112-52-zh1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] ivoks: i dont think thats very funny [09:40] ivoks: besides that mpt is on our team === dr_kabuto [~dr_kabuto@ppp-94-223.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] lol [09:41] that's why it's funny [09:41] the man makes some good points [09:41] all points are good [09:41] however, most of his points are non-trivial to implement [09:42] we couldn't have better man in our team [09:42] he's great [09:42] that same osx freak said, after reading comments on osx ui, that mpt is a God :) [09:43] the only person in the world that saw flaws in osx wich aren't fixed for years... [09:43] it's great to have mpt in our team and i just love his sense for humor [09:43] eh? osx drives me nuts [09:43] me too [09:43] i hate that os [09:43] idvd is an unable pile of crap [09:44] totem has a much nicer interface [09:44] the launchers are worthless [09:44] just read his comments on osx [09:44] he said he couldn't find soo many flaws in os9 in 3 years, as on osx in 5 days :) [09:44] and that's true [09:45] os9 has nice GUI [09:45] very much like gnome - clean [09:45] did mpt work on hoary? [09:45] nope [09:46] he works on launchpad [09:46] only on launchpad? [09:46] yes [09:46] nice [09:47] i hope he would work on ubuntu too [09:47] we could use his talent === Burgundavia just noticed the BBC has one of those little icons in FF now [09:49] ? [09:49] favico? [09:50] ya [09:50] yes... nice [09:50] but news aren't good :( [09:50] no [09:50] redesign of bbc.co.uk [09:51] did anyone else notice problems with fonts on breezy's firefox? [09:51] redesign? [09:51] there was someone on the forums mentioning it [09:51] yes, bbc didn't look like this a month ago [09:51] yes it idi [09:51] did [09:51] hm... [09:52] well, i don't read so much bbc [09:52] censorship :( [09:52] the BBC offers the best news in the world [09:52] yes, they are biggest network [09:52] but best? heh... not so sure [09:53] there is no best news [09:53] true [09:53] there is only news [09:53] well, there is best news [09:53] they are the probably the most tech savvy of any of the large media outlets [09:53] but best is subjective and personal [09:53] and quite FLOSS friendly [09:53] i notice they have rss feeds [09:53] thats just totally cool [09:54] i didn't :) [09:54] because, as they put "They are in the content business", not the forcing people to a particular platform business [09:54] be nice if they streamed in ogg theora tho :) [09:54] ah... [09:54] news.bbc.co.uk is same [09:55] i was on bbc.co.uk [10:00] Lathiat : they have streamed ogg vorbis radio in the past (maybe still do?) [10:00] JanC: nice [10:01] they are developing their own oss codec, dirac [10:01] for streaming video [10:02] also, one of their developers had a talk on europython IIRC [10:02] why not use theora? [10:02] no idea [10:02] at least their making an open codec [10:02] Lathiat : dirac is a broadband codec IIRC [10:02] i'll go with that [10:02] JanC: theora is more suited to lower bandwidth? [10:03] i was going to say, i'd like to hear why their making their own rather than going with something existing [10:03] if its to optimize for broadband, and its going to be open, then rad [10:03] i love them [10:05] http://dirac.sourceforge.net/overview.html [10:05] they talk about high definition video === koke_ [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] seems that dirac is wavelet-based, like ogg tarkin === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [~aks@CPE00112f96b894-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] there aren't really many existing free video codecs [10:16] i guess there is ogg theora but thats still quite new itself === katzor [~udssr@p54BA0706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] it's not really new, as it's based on vp3... === rcliii [~rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] hi, can someone help me? im trying to build libvmime, however the deb that gets created only contains the files for /usr/share/doc and nothing substantial... [10:26] no vmime today? === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] aren't there too few bugs stored in malone ? is there any reason ? [10:30] there are lots of bugs in malone [10:30] Burgundavia : I must be doing something wrong then [10:31] Burgundavia : I'd like to work on any [10:31] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs [10:31] there is your link [10:31] hundreds [10:31] .desktop files are an easy bug to work on [10:32] are all of them in breezy ? [10:32] if they are fixed the bug can be closed [10:33] can I assign them to me freely ? [10:33] or should I tell somebody ? [10:34] if you are going to fix them, I see no reason not to assign them to you [10:34] of course [10:35] cool, thanks, could I ask for more help ? [10:35] sure [10:36] I am not a MOTU, but I know most a fair amount [10:36] Thanks Burgundavia :) ok, let's say I decide to work on a bug [10:36] next step is to download the source package ? breezy ? hoary ? [10:37] breezy [10:37] how can I test if it's solved in hoary ? is the one I have installed ? [10:37] it doesn't need to be solved in hoary, only in breezy [10:38] unless it is a security fix or a major crasher [10:38] yes, I mean test a breezy package in hoary [10:38] after you fix it, upload it to REVU === pef [~loic@tanneries.squat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] hello [10:38] salut [10:38] no diff/patch file ? [10:38] hello pef [10:38] :) [10:38] comadreja, see the page on REVU on the wiki to see what you have to do [10:38] on peut parler fr ici ? [10:38] Thanks again Burgundavia [10:38] oui, si tu veux [10:39] I have to run, if you need anything just PM me [10:39] juste une petite question alors [10:40] cool === mez_ [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez__ [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [~loic@tanneries.squat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] hi [10:57] what's the best way to correct a bug in a package ? === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] pef: depends on the package and the bug i guess. [11:08] uniq: a bad charset in a manpage, reencoding with iconv and it's ok === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] uniq: sysv-init [11:09] pef: then i would suggest reencoding in the rules file. [11:10] uniq: it's an unique file among many [11:10] you can always make a patch. [11:10] uniq: so I add this rule, and send you the new package with ubuntu+1 revision number ? [11:10] is the file provided by upstream? [11:10] sending it to me won't help much. [11:11] pef : what manpage are you talking about ? [11:11] i could upload it to revu for you, that's about it. [11:11] JanC: update-rc.d.8 [11:11] JanC: utf8 instead iso8859-1 [11:12] so french accents are weirdly displayd [11:12] it should be utf8 ? === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] JanC: no, iso8859-1 like the others [11:12] hoary & breezy are utf8 ? [11:13] pef, I suggest you to put everything in UTF-8 [11:13] JanC, yes, they are. [11:13] 'man update-rc.d' displays just fine here... === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] JanC: the french version ? [11:14] pef : utf8 for every language [11:15] pef, if you don't see correctly the french version, it is because the page has not been eutf-8 encoded. [11:15] that's what unicode was designed for :) [11:16] the french translation is encoded as iso8859-1 and should be utf8 ? [11:16] yes! [11:16] JanC, it is like po pages. If they are not utf8 encoded, they displays weirdly.. [11:17] uniq, ? [11:17] JanC: so every manpage is currently utf-8 encoded ? === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] pef, yes it should be [11:17] pef : it should be yes [11:17] the french are currently not [11:17] thesaltydog: yes? [11:17] find /usr/share/man/fr/ -type f -exec file -iz '{}' \;|awk ' /charset=iso-8859/ { print $1" "$3}' [11:17] it returns iso8859-1 encodings [11:17] uniq, do you have a REVU upload account? [11:18] thesaltydog: i have. [11:18] and only 1 utf-8, the update-rc.d which displays weirdly :) [11:18] uniq, my package is hanging in MOTUNewPackages, and Daniel Holbach has put the final note: signed. [11:18] but I don't have a signed key, so I can't upload. [11:19] pef : what's your locale ? [11:20] LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 [11:20] LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_GB:en [11:20] it seems like a lot of man pages are still iso-8859 ... [11:20] output of my previous command : http://dl.erodia.net/ubuntu/output [11:20] warty was iso-8859-1 [11:21] thesaltydog: it's a fresh install of breezy using colony1 cd [11:21] thesaltydog: you can get a REVU account without a signed key, my key isn't signed either. [11:21] the manpages you say are still 8859-1, are old ones. they need to be updated [11:22] seems like there is some work to do ;) [11:22] I have an account, but siretart told me that I can't upload if I don't have a signed key.. [11:22] JanC: I will be very happy to do this, it's why I asked how to correct packages ;) [11:25] thesaltydog: you can't upload to universe without a signed key, you can upload to revu without. [11:25] shouldn't $LANGUAGE also include the .UTF8 ? [11:25] uniq, I believe you, but siretart told me I can't [11:25] uniq, maybe I should try tomorrow.. [11:27] go for it :) [11:27] uniq, ok. tomorrow I'll let you know.. [11:30] hmm... got a weird comment in REVU [11:30] that I need to put the copyright year in debian/copyright [11:30] I've not seen it in any other debian/cipyright before [11:31] Mez: try glurp for example ;) [11:31] glurp package [11:31] has year [11:32] /usr/share/doc/dpkg/copyright - so does dpkg [11:32] and bash. [11:32] dpkg is a good example. [11:33] thesaltydog: I told you that you should get your key signed, but that I also already have your (unsigned) key added [11:34] Mez: see this post from weasel: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/12/msg00188.html [11:35] siretart, ah, ok... So I have misunderstood... Sorry and thanks! [11:35] so I should make a bug report for the iso8859-1 encoded manpages ? [11:36] pef: bugreports are always good, just to document the problem. even if you fix it right away it's good. [11:37] siretart, one question, as this will be my first attempt for an upload... Uploading the file .changes, will automatically upload also the orig.tar.gz? It is not listed in .changes.. === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2v1-119.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] thesaltydog: use "debuild -S -sa" when building the source package [11:37] I did [11:37] uniq: ok, I just need some pointers on how to correct a package, I know how to create a package from scratch, but nothing about correction [11:38] according to manpage, the changes file includes the .orig.tar.gz then, and well, that works for me [tm] ;) [11:39] morning [11:40] pef: if it can easily be done in the rules file without adding too much dependencies i suggest doing it in the rules file in this case. It's impossible to give a 'standard' answer for your question. However, changes are best made in patches or in the rules file. (correct me if i'm wrong) [11:41] awkward explaining.. :| [11:41] uniq: for example, if I want to correct the encoding of a file, I just have to add for example an iconv command in the rules file, then increasing the package's version number, modifying the changelog, and voila :p ? [11:42] siretart, I have 2 .changes file: -_source.changes and -.changes. Which one is the file for dput? [11:43] pef: iconv is in the default buildsystem, it's provided by libc6, so yes, in this case just put a line in the rules file, to recode the manpage in the build process. [11:43] _source [11:44] ok [11:44] uniq: there are _huge_ number of packages that need manpage recoding, nearly every package provinding a french manpage :/ [11:45] thesaltydog: only the _source.changes one. we cannot revu binary packages [11:45] Do I have to create a bug report for each of them, and providing the corrected package ? [11:46] siretart, do you know how godamn annoying it is to get a source package out of pbuilder ;) [11:46] Mez: uh [11:46] pef: i still think this is the easiest (and maybe best?) solution. doesn't need to add dependencies, and you only add a line to the rules file. small change, no need for dpatch and all the extra stuff that comes with it. [11:46] Mez: it freaking puts it right in the results directory [11:46] Mez: it cant get much easier than that [11:47] pef: i would make a bugreport for each, i guess. easier to keep track of which are fixed and which are not. [11:47] tseng - put it deosnt put _source.changes [11:47] of course it doesnt [11:47] and for soemt reason without a source.changes it wont upload the orig.tar.gz [11:47] thats not part of the source [11:47] thats part of the upload [11:47] uniq: ok, so I know what I have to do next days ;) thanks for your accurate infos [11:47] dude you dont upload stuff from pbuilder [11:47] its not signed [11:48] tseng :D [11:48] it is if you use --auto-debsign [11:48] well dont do it [11:48] pdebuild = useful [11:48] mez: the point is that you don't upload binary packages, because building is not your laptops job, in the end. :) [11:49] uniq: I know... [11:49] siretart, Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (-2, 'Name or service not known') [11:49] I never said it was :D I'm saying, when you use pbuilder to buidl tehm normally, so you can work out deps automaticalyl,.... it's a PITA to get an uploadable output [11:50] no, it's not :) [11:50] 'debuild -S -sa' in the source directory will do that for you. I use pbuilder myself for testbuilds. [11:50] uniq - I know that [11:51] lol :D I just find it a lil annoying thats all :)P [11:51] siretart, ok, I mispelled the host name [11:52] It just confused the hell out of me for a while when it didnt work :D [11:53] http://dl.erodia.net/ubuntu/datakiosk/ someone could check if my package is really ok for upload ? [11:53] pef, that is what REVU is for now [11:53] Burgundavia: it is on it :) [11:53] Burgundavia: I've corrected what the comments mentionned [11:53] then reupload to REVU [11:54] Burgundavia: I'm not a motu [11:54] you can reupload a package over yours [11:54] if you fixing problems [11:55] Burgundavia, you dont need to be [11:55] you just need a revu account. [11:55] REvU is mainly used to "train" potential motu IIRC [11:55] siretart: a suggestion for REVU would be a list on a per user basis of packages he uploaded, and the comments for each. great for later refference. and to keep track of which packages made it into the universe also helps the motu team to keep track of non motu maintainers. is there a wiki i should put this on maybe?= [11:55] siretart, the package is uploaded. Thanks! [11:56] Burgundavia: but it's Jonathan Ridell who upload first my package, so I imagine I can't upload over him ? [11:56] hmm [11:56] no idea [11:56]