atevesbddebian: yes, but it crashes with no other partition mounted12:00
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bddebianateves: Are they fat partitions or ntfs?12:00
dszabo_sudo doesn't work12:00
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hyapadihellow, I follow the nvidia driver installation in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver but i can't see the logo during the login. why?12:00
tiglionabbitdszabo_: yes it does, you must be using it wrong =P12:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen i try to delete my storage folder it gives me this error12:01
bddebianateves: Eeks.  I dunno on that one. :-(12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYshane@FoamY:/storage/shane$ sudo rm -r STORAGE12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYrm: cannot remove `STORAGE': Read-only file system12:01
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atevesbddebian: well, you cannot have everything ;)12:01
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: your computer seems pretty adamant in saying that partition is read only12:01
dszabo_how do I use it? i'm kinda new at this whole thing12:01
ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:01
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rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: does 'mount' show it as readonly?12:01
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: mount it writeable12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea how to smak it around till it says otherwize12:01
naliothchrissturm: if you feel like mucking about, you can start changing permissions on binaries12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to mount it wrightable?12:01
SysFailtiglionabbit, just change it from firefox to 1.0.4 ?12:01
ernstpSeveas, ah, more people anyway.12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)12:02
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Bellatorixhey does any one know any thing about pdas?12:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYis what mount says12:02
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delireChurcH_of_FoamY: use the -w flag12:02
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: That looks read-write to me12:02
cmathesonBellatorix: well ya gotcher palm, yer ipaq, and ...12:02
pyro_chaosdoes synaptic do all linux programs like gentoo's portage tree or just what programs it chooses12:02
SysFaili love how detailed these instructions are on the webpage12:02
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bddebianBellatorix: Enough to know that they stink :-)12:02
tiglionabbitSysFail: just change it from 1.0.2 to 1.0.412:02
shadeofgreyhas anybody ever installed ubuntu on an alienware l;aptop before?12:02
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seth_kpyro_chaos: it's limited to what's in the repositories12:02
naliothpyro_chaos: apt-get by default installs binarys12:03
bddebianpyro_chaos: I dunno about portage but synaptic will install any packages in the repositories you have defined12:03
freddy_"Amd sues Intel for monopoly"12:03
Seveaspyro_chaos, apt-get has a gazillion of packages12:03
naliothpyro_chaos: apt-get CAN install from source (like portage)12:03
Seveaspyro_chaos, if you miss something in apt, request it :)12:03
pyro_chaoswill synaptic install apt-get?12:03
Discipuluspyro_chaos, synaptic is a front end to apt-get12:04
rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: something is hosed there...12:04
pyro_chaosor is it prebuilt into it12:04
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pyro_chaoso lol12:04
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freddy_isnt synaptic apt-get?12:04
pyro_chaoswhy dont i see allota program in snaptic12:04
freddy_oh..a bit slow12:04
tiglionabbitfreddy_: yes, a frontend for it12:04
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acid2Is there any type of services manager like in Fedora/...Windows ?12:04
Seveaspyro_chaos, synaptic and apt-get are both frontends to apt and dpkg12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea big time12:04
freddy_tiglionabbit heya!12:04
tiglionabbithihi freddy_12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut if i lose this data i lose my life12:04
nalioths_dogpyro_chaos: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:04
Seveasacid2, there is BUM, look at the ubuntuforums12:04
pyro_chaosim trying to install kismet and i dont see it in  synaptic12:04
freddy_tiglionabbit what shakes?12:04
nalioths_dogpyro_chaos: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:04
rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: is it out of space?12:04
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Seveaspyro_chaos, loook at what the dog said :)12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYall my family pics memors and games are in that file12:04
pyro_chaosalright thnx12:04
Seveasyou need to enable universe12:05
tiglionabbitfreddy_: nalioth's dog's tail?12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYno all the information was on that drive originally12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just changed the partition12:05
acid2Seveas, looks good12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYso everything should fit again12:05
rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: check with 'df -k'12:05
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freddy_tiglionabbit lol12:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: did i tell you about that neat little program 'discus'?12:06
delireperhaps time to use dd12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat the hell how can the drive be 40% full?12:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: its 'du' for lazy humans, ya ought to check it out (its a terminal proggy)12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYare you implying that i'm lazy?12:07
ompaulwhen is the next colony out? I ask as I have aquired a machine that needs an operating system and well you can see where this is going :)12:07
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tiglionabbitfreddy_: just been hanging around here constantly, and looking around the forums and wiki12:07
tiglionabbitfreddy_: I did figure out how to get several media players playing sound at the same time12:07
dszabo_ok, i have a .deb package on my desktop and when I do sudo -i, the directory is the root folder, and I don't have write access to the root folder, so how do I install the package with dpkg --install?12:07
tiglionabbitdszabo_: uh...   you'll want to go to /home/$user/Desktop12:08
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: no i'm not, but everyone can use a time-saver12:08
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tiglionabbitdszabo_: where $user is your username12:08
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: du -csxh will give you the amount, in human readable output, of the space a directory (and subdirs) occupies.12:08
freddy_tiglionabbit damn shouldnt that be like default?12:08
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naliothdszabo_: preface the command with "sudo"12:08
tiglionabbitfreddy_: nope, hoary has sound issues.  I followed this thing on the forums though and it worked out okay12:08
ubotuwell, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206312:09
mghi. dumb question ... host do i make entries in /etc/hosts get noticed? i want to override DNS for a while to test a site12:09
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Discipulusdszabo_, or you could do 'sudo -s' in your home directory and type 'cd Desktop/' followed by 'dpkg --install <package>.deb'12:09
tiglionabbitfreddy_: I think it messed up the sound for xmame though, a little12:09
rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: I think the disk space is unlikely to be an issue to be honest. I'd be inclined to unmount and remount it, see if that makes any difference12:09
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ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1             38464340  14322096  22188340  40% /storage12:09
naliothtiglionabbit: its not this? >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:09
rasputnikmg: they should be noticed anyway12:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i just formated it >.<12:09
vladuz976can anyone help me with my xorg.conf file? my screen resolution is finally as desired but when i launch applications from the terminal as this one now (xchat) they are huge almost fill the entire screen. anyone know what might be wrong?12:09
naliothmg: put then in the hosts file and save it12:09
dszabo_root@DSZABO:~ # /home/dszabo/Desktop/ dpkg --install 865patch_0.2-3_i386.deb12:09
dszabo_-bash: /home/dszabo/Desktop/: is a directory12:09
dszabo_root@DSZABO:~ #12:09
tiglionabbitnalioth: that one didn't seem to apply to me at all12:10
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albackerguys, how do you tar.gz a folder ??  tgz folder/ somename.tar.gz  ??12:10
tiglionabbitnalioth: and that's just to get sound working period, not have multiple players play at the same time12:10
naliothvladuz976: sounds like your resolution is NOT as desired12:10
vladuz976nalioth, lol yeah maybe not12:10
rasputnikalbacker: tar zcvf foo.tgz /path/to/folder/12:10
Discipulusdszabo_, type 'cd /home/dszabo/Desktop'12:10
naliothtiglionabbit: ah, you sent the fancy stuff into play.. ..12:10
dszabo_ok i'll try that now...12:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi unmounted it and remounted it a hundred times are so12:10
vladuz976nalioth, the desktop itself looks good but the applications don't12:10
Discipulusdszabo_, FOLLOWED by 'dpkg --install 865patch_0.2-3_i386.deb'12:10
naliothvladuz976: methinks you need to hit ctrl-alt-+ and see what you get12:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand it still insists on screwing with me12:11
vladuz976nalioth, i'll try12:11
dszabo_ahhhhhh it works, thatnk!12:11
rasputnikChurcH_of_FoamY: in that case, get the files off it and reformat12:11
freddy_nalioth heya!12:11
naliothhowdy, freddy12:11
ubuntu__could i get some help on something12:11
freddy_nalioth how are ya?12:11
tiglionabbitnalioth: unfortunately, that method on the forums requires you to switch every player to use alsa, and I can't figure out how to get some of them to do it right12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to put the files on it! >.<12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just formated it12:11
Discipulusdszabo_, np12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike 2 days ago12:11
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naliothfreddy_: ok, and you?12:12
balistic22CAn i get some help on something12:12
Seveasbalistic22, read the topic12:12
svei koi ima ubuntu? :)12:12
Seveasjust ask12:12
vladuz976nalioth, when i change it to a bigger one so that i can read the applications like this one xchat. blow up the rest behaves normally12:12
naliothbalistic22: you have to ask us the question12:12
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balistic22Does anyone know how to watch wmv's on Firefox let alone Linux?12:12
naliothvladuz976: HUH?12:13
tiglionabbitbalistic22: yes12:13
delirebalistic22: you need the w32codecs12:13
Seveasbalistic22, install mplayer-plugin and w32codecs12:13
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.  Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org12:13
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naliothbalistic22: wmv3 is out of our range in linux, i believe12:13
svedoes anyone knows how to get a TV tuner working on Ubuntu box?12:13
delirebalistic22: they are not shipped with ubuntu as they are proprietary and non-free12:13
balistic22wait so all i need to do is download the plugin and codecs12:13
Seveasbalistic22, indeed12:13
delires/and/and thus/12:13
balistic22what if i was runnin red hat12:13
freddy_i wonder if i can buy cedega from my country12:13
nalioths_dogbalistic22: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:13
tiglionabbitbalistic22: steps: add a backports mirror.  Install mplayer-586 or whatever build you need, and then mozilla-mplayer12:13
Seveasbalistic22, then you would have a MUCh bigger problem :)12:13
tiglionabbitand w32codecs12:13
freddy_nalioth really cool, working on some stuff12:14
vladuz976nalioth, yeah i don't know what's wrong reka fixed up my xorg.conf for me yesterday, so icould finally get a higher resolution but now i have this problem12:14
freddy_but i really would like to try cedega first before buying it....isnt there like a trial?12:14
naliothvladuz976: did you ctrl-alt-+ and get it to change?12:14
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balistic22ok so if im running red hat all i need to do is download the mplayer and then the w32 codecs is this correct?12:14
Seveasfreddy_, there is cvscedega12:14
Seveasit's free12:14
tiglionabbitfreddy_: it's subscription.  So if by trial you mean try it for 5 bucks, go ahead12:14
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vladuz976nalioth, yeah it changes but only to worse12:14
naliothbalistic22: if you are running redhat, you need more help then we can provide .. .. ..12:14
Seveasbalistic22, this isn't #redhat, we can't help you with red hat12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYok is there a howto on putting in and setting up a hard drive on your system12:15
naliothvladuz976: so hit it again, (increase the resolution)12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause i must have messed up when i did it12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's really pissing me off12:15
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vladuz976nalioth, i did but then i can't read the irc anymore coz it fills the screen12:15
balistic22do you know where i can find a redhat chat?12:15
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: what i normally do is attach the drive, run 'fdisk -l12:15
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm really sorry we can't help you with this.  Must really suck, huh?12:15
pdgHello everyone... Is anyone having problems installing nvidia-glx-dev? It gives me an MD5 checksum error...12:16
cmathesonChurcH_of_FoamY: man fdisk ; man mke2fs ?12:16
balistic22i just have a problem because i dont know which distro is better12:16
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Seveaspdg, try apt-get clean and retry12:16
naliothvladuz976: i'm puzzled, it seems you are making the resolution smaller if the xchat screen keeps enlarging12:16
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: then format it with cfdisk, whack on a filesystem, edit /etc/fstab and then mount it.12:16
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Seveasbalistic22, Ubuntu is :)12:16
naliothbalistic22: have you ever heard the term "red hat hell"?12:16
Seveasrpm hell12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi did it the first time with qtparted12:16
tiglionabbitpdg: make sure your rpositories are correct, and refresh synaptic12:16
Seveasplus red hat likes being incompatible with all others12:17
vladuz976nalioth, yes, my desktop itself looks fine, like the panel and the terminal is ok all the gnome stuff looks ok, the only thing is other applications get messed up they are still low resolution12:17
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delireChurcH_of_FoamY: i don't know sorry. is it a separate drive or just a partition on an existing drive?12:17
balistic22one more question12:17
ompaulSeveas, it even challanges itself at times :)12:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYseperate drive12:17
balistic22can ubuntu run kde?12:17
balistic22instead of gnome12:18
Seveasbalistic22, of course :)12:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes it's called kubuntu12:18
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tiglionabbitbalistic22: yes.  get kubuntu, or install ubuntu and get kubuntu-desktop package12:18
dszabo_ok, my resolution is 640X480, I can't get it to go higher, and the resolution wiki page didn't help, my graphics card is the Intel 845G12:18
pdgSeveas, tiglionabbit: I've refreshed and cleaned it several times... but what's the correct repository for nvidia-glx-dev anyway?12:18
splintabreezy live i386 colony-2 cannot start x12:18
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Seveasif you install Kubuntu (Ubuntu with a different set of defaults) you will eveb get KDE by default12:18
ompaulbalistic22, you can do that, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:18
seth_kdszabo_: there is a fix for this12:18
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: did you buy a hard disk and attempt to format this, or did you create a partition on an existing drive12:18
rasputnikhow do I get the zlib fix ?12:18
balistic22oh ok12:18
seth_kdszabo_: what monitor do you have? You will need to edit xorg.conf12:18
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naliothbalistic22: ubuntu is linux, you can run what you like12:18
tiglionabbitpdg: restricted12:19
dszabo_MAG Innovision12:19
balistic22but the thing is i dont like repositories12:19
JoeyrSsomeone can help me? i cannot install gstreamer plugins: http://phpfi.com/6864712:19
balistic22they work differentlyu then rpms12:19
seth_kdszabo_: know a model number?12:19
tiglionabbitbalistic22: they make things much much easier12:19
ompaulbalistic22, they work better than :)12:19
dszabo_its 771 FS12:19
tiglionabbitbalistic22: you can always use dpkg instead though12:19
balistic22whats that?12:19
naliothdszabo_: if seth_k dosnt help you, ask me12:19
nameless1can someone tell me if there is a programer similar to netlimiter for linux that will show me what programs are using bandwidth and how much, and also let me limit how much bandwidth programs can use?12:19
vladuz976does anyone else in here know much about the resolution problem with ubuntu?12:19
splintabreezy live i386 colony-2 cannot start x tried nv and vesa driver options...any ideas ?12:19
seth_ksplinta: nobody can get it to start, probably out of luck for now12:20
tiglionabbitbalistic22: dpkg is like rpm for debian.  But once you start using apt with synaptic, you'll love it, I promise12:20
deliresplinta: don't use breezy until it's released ;)?12:20
naliothvladuz976: yes i do12:20
balistic22ohh sounds great =)12:20
naliothvladuz976: we have not reached the end of my knowledge12:20
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rasputnik anyone else got the latest security fix for zlib? apt-get update/upgrade isn't showing it12:20
vladuz976nalioth, you think you can look at my file?12:20
seth_kdszabo_: do you know the model number of your monitor?12:20
balistic22does the kde for unbuntu work better?12:20
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vladuz976nalioth, i am glad12:20
tiglionabbitbalistic22: work better than what/12:20
naliothvladuz976: paste your xorg.conf to a pastebin12:20
bojanglesdelire, well there is not a lot that works on breezy right now...because of so many fundamental changes.12:21
balistic22then red hats kde12:21
cmathesonbalistic22: it's all the same stinkin' crap12:21
pdgtiglionabbit: I have the hoary, hoary-updates and hoary-security branches of restricted. Should that be enough?12:21
balistic22oh ok12:21
virgulebalistic22: I do think so..12:21
vladuz976nalioth, ok wait12:21
ubotusources is, like, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:21
ubotumethinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:21
ompaulbalistic22, depends on your hardware and your values of $work_better12:21
naliothbalistic22: it is linux, kde, gnome, blackbox, fluxbox, whatever12:21
bojanglesdelire, even X does not work right...but the basics are being better thought out12:21
delirebojangles: it will be like that until October i'd imagine12:21
vladuz976nalioth, kinda hard with this messed up resolution to see things12:21
splintaseth_k: thats alright then...thought it was just me...someone said the nvidia dric=vers were porked but that vesa would work...no joy12:21
balistic22whats blackbox fluxbox12:21
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ubotuwell, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:22
naliothbalistic22: they are desktop managers12:22
delireanyone know if breezy will use ifplugd? (great for laptop users)12:22
cmathesonbalistic22: don't forget openbox, they're more lightweight window managers12:22
delirecmatheson: a great wm..12:22
cmathesondelire: :)12:22
delirecmatheson: though my favourite of the last year is http://wmi.modprobe.de12:22
LokeDKIf I install kde, will it touch gnome somehow?12:22
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cmathesondelire: i'll have to check that out~one of my friends was talking about it, but i havent' taken it for a spin yet12:23
tiglionabbitLokeDK: no.  It may add some programs to your menus though12:23
delirecmatheson: but for most purposes, there is little that beats openbox. it served me well for two years and i still use it.12:23
naliothLokeDK: only if you call it12:23
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LokeDKoh okay.. how large is kde? I mean size..12:23
rasputnikwoo! got it, sweet12:23
cmathesondelire: yeah, i used windowmaker a few years ago, tried out gnome for about a month, but now i'm on openbox and i think i'm here to stay12:23
rasputnikLokeDK: fuckin hewge.12:23
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delirecmatheson: understandable. openbox was a happy romance. very few reasons to leave.12:24
tiglionabbitLokeDK: to find out what the difference will be, say this "sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop"  -- that'll simulate an install and it'll tell you the size it's gonna take to add it12:24
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cmathesondelire: i do like the idea of vi-like control over a window-manager though12:24
LokeDKoh okay.. thx12:24
vladuz976nalioth, http://rafb.net/paste/results/G5chb994.html12:25
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rasputnikcmatheson: if you want a keyboard friendly wm, try ratpoison, it's awesome12:25
tiglionabbitlol ratpoison, what a name12:25
rasputniktiglionabbit: kills your mouse, see? ratpoison.sf.net12:25
tiglionabbitcool.  I think I'll install it12:25
fortysixand2I have a question regarding the linux-wlan-ng drivers12:26
rasputnikif you ever used screen on a terminal, it's like that, but for x12:26
tiglionabbitrasputnik: plays nice with xnest?12:26
fortysixand2I tried to install them, and now I want to go back to the orinoco, but it keeps trying to load prism2_cs when I insert the card12:26
delirecmatheson: i'm loving wmii (version 2). too much to talk about really, but things like creating saving whole window configuration states and being able to dynamically roll them out when required. 'bare_mode' for locking you into the keybinds/macro's for the given application/client and ignoring the wm. 'tiled_mode' for maximum use of desktop real estate. lovely.12:26
bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?12:26
fortysixand2how can I tell it to load the old ones instead?12:27
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tiglionabbitaw man, it doesn't add its entry to sessions.  *tweaks*12:27
ilpumIs there a command to list all programs available? I just can't find out the command to start CMU Sphinx12:27
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rasputniktiglionabbit: yeah, you need that for things like gimp really. give gimp its own server.12:27
vladuz976nalioth, i'll reconnect from the laptop12:27
delirecmatheson: http://selectparks.net/julian/wmi for a few screenies.12:27
delireanyway, it's late.12:27
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delirebye all12:27
acid2hey - im about to go to bed and live my ubuntu on12:28
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tiglionabbitilpum: use apropos to search through programs.  All your programs should be in directories listed in the $PATH variable12:28
cmathesondell500: thanks12:28
acid2is there anyway to 'lock' the system?12:28
tiglionabbitacid2: yes12:28
acid2or something I should do before i go sleepy?12:28
rasputnikacid2: mount two ntfs systems ? hahaha12:28
tiglionabbitacid2: system -> lock screen12:28
acid2thats all?12:28
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tiglionabbitacid2: yeah, that'll make people have to type in your password to use it again.  Wont lock up net connections though..12:29
acid2i dont have ssh or vnc.. so i should be ok?12:29
tiglionabbitdude just use it and see what it does12:29
rasputnikacid2: if someone breaks into your room they'll steal the pc, not sit there surfing12:29
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acid2I was meaning more remote protection12:29
naliothvladuz976: do you HAVE to have nvidia drivers (for acceleration or whatever)?12:30
vladuz976nalioth, no not really12:30
fortysixand2I uninstalled the ubuntu package, but it still tries to load prism2_cs12:30
kbrooksjust a problem.12:30
rasputnikacid2: don't worry about that, remote access is a good thing. just have passwords that aren't stupid.12:30
acid2well, gnite then!12:30
kbrooksi tried to ......12:30
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kbrooksi tried to en`able nvidia and restart X12:31
naliothvladuz976: then i'd suggest you back up the xorg.conf you have now, and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver and the resolutions you want to run12:31
kbrooksbut it says12:31
ilpumtiglionabbit: I doesn't find anything under "sphinx"12:31
ChurcHi'm trying to copy infor the the hard drive one last time12:31
tiglionabbitsphinx?  what?12:31
kbrooksbut X says that no screens were found12:31
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kbrooksnalioth, ping12:32
ChurcHand if it doesent work can someone please walk me through the proccess of seting up a new hard drive?12:32
kbrooksi tried to en`able nvidia and restart X12:32
kbrooksbut X says that no screens were found12:32
naliothkbrooks: WTF is "ping"?12:32
kbrooksand nvidia reports an API error12:32
kbrooksnalioth, it means I want your attention12:32
rasputnikChurcH: parted is good.12:32
vladuz976nalioth, for when it asks select desired x servere driver i pic nv?12:32
naliothkbrooks: see what i just told vladuz976 above12:32
AlbarahaSmall fonts aren't displayed in firefox till I increase the fonts size. Any hint?12:32
vladuz976nalioth, oh vesa12:33
naliothvladuz976: no, choose VESA for the driver12:33
rasputniknalioth: he's checking you haven't fallen asleep at the keyboard12:33
ChurcHi know it is but i want to do this wright the data is to important to lose12:33
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naliothrasputnik: <snooooorrrr>12:33
rasputniknalioth: you're supposed to go 'pong', or 'get bent' or something12:33
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kbrooksnalioth, i did the configuration and chose nvidia12:33
vladuz976nalioth, can i quit the configureation after that i don't really know about the rest it asks12:33
kbrooksnalioth, before restarting12:33
virgulehuh.. call me newbie but how do I put a line with my name at first.. like I an action-descriptive thing... hmm?12:34
rasputnikChurcH: in that case take a break. nothing kills a pc faster than impatience.12:34
virgulevirgule wonders..12:34
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kbrooksvirgule, use /me12:34
fortysixand2anyone here familiar with the linux-wlan-ng drivers?12:34
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naliothvladuz976: choose the default answers, paying attention when it gets to the resolutions you want12:34
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ChurcHi'm only impatant cause i'm getting point2play tonught and have no room for it >.<12:34
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naliothkbrooks: if you're having video trouble and want productivity over acceleration, read what i've been discussing with vladuz976 and choose VESA also12:35
vladuz976nalioth, for the amount of memory for my video card the line is blank i don't know if i can just pass by12:35
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naliothvladuz976: how much mem do you have in it?12:35
vladuz976but in kb?12:35
kbrooksnalioth, um, no. why should i choose vesa?12:35
ChurcHhow much memory do you have in that card?12:35
jseattlenalioth, do you still need me to run you around Houston tomorrow?12:36
naliothvladuz976: 64 x 102412:36
rasputnikhow do I add a repo as 'trusted'? apt whinges at me everytime I get something from universe12:36
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kbrooksnalioth, i dont understand12:36
ChurcHand i'll tell you waht to put as the value in that line12:36
naliothjseattle: i no, but you can accompany me if i do go12:36
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ubotuI don't know, rasputnik12:36
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kbrooksrasputnik, uh12:36
naliothkbrooks: is your nvidia driver working?12:36
uboturepositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:36
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jseattleok, i just woke up and went to KFC on Southmore and was wondering12:36
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vladuz976nalioth, kernel framebuffer device interface. what's that?12:37
kbrooksnalioth, no. no screens found and nvidia api error12:37
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jseattleam having a problem with 77502 post office12:37
rasputniktiglionabbit: cheers12:37
wildtangentanother n00b question, i just dist-upgraded to breezy on my test box...but it looks the same, how do i tell if it actually worked?12:37
naliothjseattle: hopefully, i will be going tomorrow on the errands12:37
naliothvladuz976: just take the default answers12:37
tiglionabbithehe, n00b question about breezy12:37
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naliothkbrooks: you and vladuz976 are doing the same thing, please read what i've been advising him12:38
jseattleok, i will be driving all night until 6:00 AM and will listen, but don't use 832-816 number12:38
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kbrookswildtangent, dont use breezy12:38
unomehello fellow ubuntunians!12:38
naliothJeezis: np12:38
tiglionabbitlol, I knew someone would say that12:38
naliothjseattle: np12:38
kbrooksnalioth, im using nv12:38
naliothkbrooks: and nv isnt working12:38
lydonquestion--I have a wireless card in my laptop (eth1) that comes up as Deactivated everytime I reboot, any ideas how I can have this activated on startup?12:38
naliothkbrooks: use VESA12:38
jseattleyou know my thoughts on srr (work 4 free)!12:38
kbrooksnalioth, no no12:38
kbrooksnot nvidia12:38
wildtangenti used it a while back, worked fine until xorg broke, tried it again today. i was able to confirm it was actually breezy before, but i cant remember how i did that now12:38
kbrooksnalioth, cant u fricking understand12:39
mwelydon can you bring it up manually?12:39
jseattlei am fixing to eat and bathe, but will stay online here if you have mssg to type or whatever12:39
wildtangentim not a linux n00b, ive been using it for months, and im no expert, but im not a n00b either12:39
kbrooksthe X driver!12:39
jseattlepet the dirty dog for me12:39
kbrookswildtangent, /cat /etc/issue12:39
jseattleCallahan is in hospital again12:39
vladuz976nalioth, ok now it asks for the monitor video modes, but the numbers seems kinda unfamiliar, i have ,1920x1440 and 1856x1392 and 1792x1344 and 1680x1050 and 1600x1200 and 1440x90012:40
naliothjseattle: i heard12:40
lydonmwe: yes, if I go into Administration > Networking and activate it from there, it works fine12:40
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jseattlehe is a filthy owner12:40
vladuz976sorry for the lenght12:40
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kbrooksjseattle, why dont you pm?12:40
jseattlehe should be okay by Friday12:40
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naliothvladuz976: pick 1024x768, 800x600  to be safe12:40
wildtangentso...how can i tell if i actually have breezy?12:40
jseattlekbrooks, i dont know how, nalioth is teaching me, we both live and work at same place in Houston12:40
kbrookswildtangent, cat /etc/issue12:40
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jseattleam new to this kbrooks12:41
vladuz976nalioth, if it was offered, only the ones i wrote above are offered12:41
mwelydon, is it configured in /etc/network/interfaces? if so make sure the file has auto eth1 in it12:41
kbrooksjseattle, /query12:41
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naliothjseattle: its easy   at your prompt, type /msg nalioth <msg blah blah>12:41
wildtangentwell thats wierd...still hoary12:41
kbrooksnalioth, /query is better12:41
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naliothvladuz976: did you scroll down?12:41
jseattleok cool12:41
BalisticBiker22whats the difference between RHEL and RH12:41
jseattlei am going to eat now, ya'll stand by will be back in 30 mins12:41
naliothkbrooks: do you want to see a gui?12:42
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vladuz976nalioth, oh no sorry12:42
kbrooksnalioth, uh, yes12:42
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sobersabrehow can i control which image splashy uses and at which res ?12:42
naliothkbrooks: if you are using the "nv" driver NOW, it isnt working too well12:42
kbrooksnalioth, i want to use "nvidia"12:42
vladuz976nalioth, now just restart X?12:43
ilpum_I am still there. XD12:43
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naliothkbrooks: how many puters do you have in front of you?12:43
naliothvladuz976: yes12:43
lydonmwe: this is what is says (I took out the essid and key)iface eth1 inet dhcp12:43
lydon        # wireless-* options are implemented by the wireless-tools package12:43
lydon        wireless-mode managed12:43
lydon        wireless-essid12:43
lydon        wireless-key112:43
lydonauto eth112:43
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naliothkbrooks: would you rather see a gui so you can use firefox/xchat or whatever and attempt to find a solutin of why your NV makes blank screens?12:43
kbrooksnalioth, i think you are confused12:44
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kbrooksnalioth, wen i say nv, i dont mean nvidia12:44
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kbrooksjust nv12:44
hkdevjust wondering if any one use any tools to auto config your network interfaces, i.e. wifi?12:44
sobersabrehkdev, yes...12:44
naliothkbrooks: i don't know the diff tween them, but VESA will get you a gui12:45
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rasputniklydon: that should be 'wireless-essid YOURNETNAME'12:45
sobersabrei'm sure you have enough12:45
vladuz976nalioth, it works fine i can choose different resolution but when i launch let's say xine or mplayer they are huge12:45
kbrooksnalioth, you sure?12:45
Tsunamiiwhen you install something, where is the default directly where you can execute it?12:45
LokeDKI'm trying to use my flashcard for my mp3-player, the filesystem is FAT but it seems that it can't meassure the size .. so every time I transfer something it says not enough disc space.. what can I do?12:45
naliothvladuz976: you have probably resized them during the previous adventures, no telling12:45
kbrooksTsunamii, in the PATH12:45
lydonrasputnik: it does, I deleted it12:45
naliothkbrooks: VESA will drive a dead dog12:45
rasputniklydon: ah ok12:46
hkdevi'm manually editing my /etc/network/interfaces file every time i'm switching network. which tool do you use to switch?12:46
mrd`Anyone else having problems with linux-image-2.6.12-3-k7?  Whenever I boot it, top shows 80+% of my CPU time being used and powernowd steps up my processor to full speed, but no apps actually seem to be using anywhere near that much CPU time.  linux-image-2.6.12-2-k7 works fine, however.12:46
Tsunamiikbrooks, I installed it via Snaptics12:46
mwelydon, doesn't the file contain a line that starts with iface eth1 ?12:46
vladuz976nalioth, possible can i some how resize them again or reinstall?12:46
kbrooksnalioth, got ya12:46
naliothvladuz976: move your mouse to the top corner (not the arrow) and resize, then drag the window up til you can drag some more12:46
vladuz976nalioth, that only changes the size of the window12:47
sobersabrehkdev, i have 1 network. but: you can write a script that does this:12:47
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lydonmwe: yea, it showed up with my first line up there instead of pasting below it -- iface eth1 inet dhcp12:48
eli_Ubuntuas anyone seen this error when trying to do apt-get dist-upgrade?12:48
eli_UbuntuFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch12:48
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mwelydon, then I dont know why it doesnt come up at boot. I'd check the logs12:48
naliothvladuz976: can you ctrl-alt-+ to increase the resolution?12:49
lydonmwe: dumb question.... where are the logs?12:49
mwelydon, /var/log12:49
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daviddoes anyone know of a good taskbar i can use for linux?12:49
vladuz976nalioth, yes12:49
mwelydon, /var/log/messages contains it all12:49
naliothvladuz976: or system > prefs > screen resolution12:49
sobersabrehkdev, tries to setup wlan iface, and scans network befre that.12:49
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eli_Ubuntudavid: you mean something like gdesklets?12:50
vladuz976nalioth, yes that works12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i erased the entire partiton and restarted the computer12:50
sobersabreyou can sort networks by signal strength and speed. and choose whatever you want12:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnow should i make it an ext3 partition or a fat 32 partition?12:50
davideli_Ubuntu, i dunno, something that will show my open applications12:50
naliothdavid: gdesklets or superkaramba make nice cpu-hogging dock things12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYwith qtparted?12:50
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sobersabreyou can also make entries for several netwrks and try each entry until success.12:50
benplauthehe.... off to install on someone's laptop :)12:51
eli_Ubuntudavid: then i wouldnt know. i have had no problems with that12:51
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zenhi - quick q - how do i remove all the games installed by ubuntu during installation? is it as simple as using the add/remove programs app?12:52
eli_Ubuntuis wlan better for wireless use than ath0?12:52
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naliothzen: use synaptic and sort by section - games12:52
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mweeli_Ubuntu, the iface name depends on the driver. ipw2200 defaults to wlanX whereas madwifi defaults to athX12:53
lydonmwe: eth0 is only in there twice... it says eth1: New link status: Connected(0001)12:53
naliothvladuz976: so you are sorted now?12:53
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naliothvladuz976: the pRon now fits the page?12:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYok now i've made the partition on hdb1 using qtparted now what do i have to do?12:53
flodinehas anyone updated there kernel yet12:53
eli_Ubuntuthere's a new kernel?12:54
naliotheli_Ubuntu: you can always compile a new kernel12:54
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mwelydon, does ifup/ifdown eth1 work? if so /etc/network/interfaces should be ok12:54
eli_Ubuntunalioth: oh :)12:54
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi know that i have to create a mountpoint so how do i do that?12:54
parkbenchhey all12:54
drewhey, can anyone help me download the source for GAIM 1.4.1?  The gaim website only has it up to 1.3.1 but Ubuntu says i'm running 1.4.1.  Any ideas?12:54
vladuz976nalioth, no still doesn't work12:55
lcharly_TheOnehow can i change the name of mi computer??12:55
parkbenchi got a question about transporting a file from this to linux comp12:55
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drewnvm, i'm an idiot12:55
parkbenchi fear my only option is cd, but you tell me if im missing something12:55
vladuz976nalioth, i wish i could show you a screenshot somehow12:55
parkbenchit has no internet...i tried a floppy but it failed12:55
seth_kdrew, i was gonna say :P12:55
lydonmwe: if I type those at the console it gives me a usage screen12:55
naliothvladuz976: did you choose your monitor settings during the dpkg process?12:55
parkbenchi tried my external hard drive but whenerver i connect it to the linux box the file disappears12:55
parkbenchfor some odd reason12:55
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parkbenchi think the only portable way to move it now would be a cd...i dont want to awaste any, but if i ahve to :/12:55
vladuz976nalioth, yes12:55
zennalioth - thanks will try that tonight12:55
benplautparkbench: your wifi working?12:55
mwelydon, sudo ifdown eth1 doesnt work?12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to make a mountpoint on a new harddrive?12:56
parkbenchbenplaut: no, this file is what i need to make it work12:56
mwelydon, or sudo ifup eth112:56
lydonmwe: "couldn't read interfaces file"12:56
zennalioth - for the synaptic sort by games tip :D12:56
parkbenchbenplaut: or at least i think i might...i worked with bddebian for a while, and got some other thinsg fixed but by now my only option left is to manually compile ndiswrapper12:56
naliothvladuz976: and the settings for monitor matched your monitor?12:56
parkbenchand thats the file im trying to move12:56
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naliothzen: ah, yes, thats the quickest and easiest12:56
mwelydon, ok you need to go over /etc/network/interfaces again12:57
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slishercan anyone help me with kino (video editor)?12:57
lydonmwe: I'm there12:57
naliothslisher: ask your question to the channel12:57
mwelydon, paste it somewhere and I'll have a look, the complete file12:57
vladuz976nalioth, yes that went fine, no problems and my desktop looks awesome except for the  applications, but not even all like firefox is ok and the terminal is ok. seems like only stuff i added with apt-get after install has that low resolution or i don't know how to describe it12:58
naliothwhere can you pastebin a screenshot?12:58
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tiglionabbitnalioth: photo bucket?12:58
aronhow do i make my packages manager multiverse and universe12:58
naliothvladuz976: take a screenshot and see the www.photobucket.com12:58
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tiglionabbit !sources12:58
ubotuI heard sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:58
uboturepositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:58
tiglionabbitaron: read those12:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth whats the command to make a mountpoint on a new hard drive?12:59
nalioths_dogdamn y'all quick12:59
arontiglionabbit, thanks12:59
mwelydon http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:59
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: what is the HDs address? as in /dev/hd?12:59
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you make a folder in your homedir (or wherever you want to mount the HD onto)01:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYmkdir foamy?01:00
lydonmwe: okay http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/426 if I did it right01:00
Big_Ough >.>01:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis that the right command?01:00
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: what filesystem is it?01:00
nomedis there anyone that could explain why pbuilder doesn't work? pdebuild and then i receive some errors about packages auth.01:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was gonna use fat16 but said screw it01:01
seth_knomed, sure01:01
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: then you issue "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /home/foamy01:01
seth_knomed, there's a file you need to create01:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth thank you so much ^_^01:01
nomedseth_k, how?01:01
aksanybody here do an install selecting a location of Canada01:01
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: im rusty on my mount stuff, so if it dont work someone else can point out my mistake01:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYand that will make the dir too?01:01
seth_knomed, create a file in /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/apt.conf.d called allow-unauthenticated01:01
seth_knomed: inside this file, put:01:02
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: if it does work, we need to add to the fstab01:02
shinitenshiw000t w000t01:02
shinitenshisup guys01:02
seth_kAPT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1;01:02
seth_knomed: then save and update your base.tgz01:02
naliothseth_k: would you like to add that to the apt wiki?01:02
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nomedseth_k, i have that file .. and also an updated db .. :/01:03
seth_kyou sure you spelled everything inside right, nomed?01:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYit says that only root can do that is it ok to sudo that command?01:03
seth_kI misspelled AllowUnauthenticated first time around :P01:03
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes01:03
seth_knalioth: that's a pbuilder specific issue and is documented on the Pbuilder page of the wiki01:03
tiglionabbithey guys.  After doing !sound xmame sounds really scratchy and plays at low framerate.  But everything else works way better.  What do you think could be the problem with xmame?01:03
mwelydon, what did ifup eth1 say again?01:03
nomedwell copy and paste from wiki01:03
mwelydon, cause I can't spot any errors01:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYmount: mount point /home/foamy does not exist01:04
naliothseth_k: can regular users find it if they are tired of the (i assume) 'bad gpg messages"?01:04
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to create that folder01:04
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: and make sure it's empty01:04
Matt_Arnoldhello, I'm a new Linux user.01:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYmkdir /home/foamy?01:04
naliothMatt_Arnold: welcome01:04
tiglionabbithello Matt_Arnold, I hope you find Ubuntu to be a fun distro01:04
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes01:04
lydonmew: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42701:04
seth_kwelcome Matt_Arnold01:04
shinitenshiJust ask! ok here goes nothing >.<01:04
Matt_ArnoldI've been trying to install Linux for more than a year and Ubuntu is the first one that worked.01:05
alnrwhen i run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it fails to fetch akregator and several others with md5sum mismatch. i've run apt-get update. any ideas?01:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYmkdir: cannot create directory `/home/foamy': Permission denied01:05
seth_knalioth, no. It's only in the dev section01:05
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: use sudo01:05
seth_knomed: maybe try rebuilding your base.tgz?01:05
naliothalnr: some of the repos are having some troubles today01:05
shinitenshiUmm I wanted to know how to install Micromedia final on wine every time i run it it gives me errors >.<01:05
zenif i wanted to compile my own kernel in ubuntu, would make menuconfig have the options of the current kernel? and would copying it from /boot be enough to back it up?01:05
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: cd into your home directory01:05
nomedE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes <-- this is the error01:05
Matt_ArnoldI had problems but I have lots of tech friends who helped me. So anyway, I'm just chatting here to say thank you to the Ubuntu community. Thank you!01:06
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: now type "mkdir foamy"01:06
seth_knalioth, which repos are having issues?01:06
alnrnalioth: ok thanks, i guess i'll try later01:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think it worked i diden't cd into my home dir though01:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just did mkdir home/foamy01:06
seth_kMatt_Arnold: we're always here if you need help :)01:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYis that gonna be a problem?01:06
naliothseth_k: more than one, i havent been keeping track (its just the us ones, i think)01:06
zenanyone know?01:06
nomedbut what's wrong with debuild? :/01:06
eternale1how come i can't change my resolution the only choice is 640 by 48001:06
seth_kthanks nalioth01:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: do you have a new "foamy" directory in your home folder?01:06
seth_keternale1: do you use an Intel graphics chip?01:06
mwelydon, you need to put in your key there wireless-key1 1af0ed substitute for your key01:07
nomedi've never had problem with it in debian01:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes i do01:07
zenguys, does anyone know if i wanted to compile my own kernel in ubuntu, would make menuconfig have the options of the current kernel? and would copying it from /boot be enough to back it up?01:07
Razor-Xwhat work are you documenting on the wiki for membership?01:07
eternale1its a old voodoo 301:07
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naliothzen: there are wonderful hand-holding walkthroughs on kernel compiling on the web01:07
eternale1but it did fine with the resolution on the live cd01:07
zenyeah i know01:07
naliothzen: kernel stuff is a little out of the league here01:07
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vladuz976nalioth, http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/vladuz976/Screenshot.png01:07
zenim just talking from my experience with gentoo here, since they are both deb based01:07
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: back to your mount command01:07
seth_keternale1: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the "Monitor" section01:08
zengentoo was easy to do kernel compiles01:08
kbrookszen, wrong01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYok done i'm trying it now with crossed fingers ^_^01:08
Razor-Xwell, portage is compilation in and of itself01:08
seth_keternale1: see if you have two lines about HorizRate and VertRefresh01:08
kbrooksgentoo is not based upondebian01:08
zenthought it was a debian derivative01:08
lydonmwe: the wireless that I'm on now is unencrypted01:08
lifelessits a crack derivative01:08
naliotheternale1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com has a lot on fixing video resolution01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYgod damnit01:08
seth_knomed: i'm sorry that I don't have any other suggestions. what's the exact error?01:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYaccess denied what the hell >.<01:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need this data!!!!01:09
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: "sudo"01:09
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mwelydon, then comment the line by putting a # in front of the wireless-key1 line01:09
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: patience01:09
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lydonmwe: done01:09
mwelydon, then it should work01:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm running out of that quite fast01:09
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: please try to understand how some of this works.  Read the page on sudo01:09
mwelydon, try ifup eth1 now01:09
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:09
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lydonmwe: it looks like it worked that time01:10
mwelydon, great01:10
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: linux doesn't work without patience01:10
eternale1seth_k: i see monitor section no lines about horizrate and vertrefresh01:10
seth_keternale1: what monitor do you have? including model number, please01:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi understand  that01:10
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: your command may not work again, due to my syntax error01:10
lydonmwe: so you think it will be activated if I reboot?01:10
mwelydon, yes01:10
eternale1seth_k: sony cpd-e21001:10
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: then you issue "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /home/<your username>/foamy01:11
lydonmwe: great, thanks for your help... the Ubuntu community is the best01:11
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mwelydon, np01:11
lydonI'm going to try it right now... good day all01:11
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stisevhi all01:11
seth_keternale1: add these lines:01:11
stisevhow do I remove a directory that has files in it?01:11
seth_k     HorizSync          30-8501:12
stisevwhat's the CLI command for it01:12
seth_k     VertRefresh        48-12001:12
mwestisev, rm -rf01:12
stisevstand by01:12
naliothvladuz976: my goodness you have a large monitor01:12
seth_keternale1: then restart X and you should be good01:12
eternale1under the monitor section correct01:12
nomedseth_k, http://phpfi.com/6865501:12
seth_keternale1: that's right01:12
eternale1ok ty let me try01:12
naliothstisev: be careful with that command01:12
naliothstisev: once they're gone, they're gone01:12
vladuz976nalioth, its only 19 inch01:12
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stisevnalioth: NP thanx01:12
naliothvladuz976: well, it looks ok to me01:12
naliothvladuz976: from the screenshot01:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYmount: mount point /home/shane/foamy does not exist01:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat the hell am i doin wrong?01:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open a terminal01:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm in terminal now01:13
seth_knomed: that's exactly right. How about this, did you edit /etc/pbuilderrc and set up your apt config directory?01:13
vladuz976nalioth, do you see the differnce between the font size for the dvd rip and the firefox that is one indicator01:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: type "cd" and hit enter01:13
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: Please read the error and understand it.  It is very obvious what it means01:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbut it's there01:13
HrdwrBoBare you sure01:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth ok done01:14
seth_knomed: (exactly right as in exactly the error I got when my authentication was wrong)01:14
signbarnOkay, so just recently when i boot up, my optical drives (my DVD+R/W and CD-R/W) only show up as CD-ROM 1 and CD-ROM 2, and when I go to properties, it gives me a strange Mount Error. Any ideas?01:14
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: it means the directory you're specifying does not exist.  It matters what the directory you are looking at is01:14
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naliothvladuz976: it looks fine to me01:14
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: now type "mkdir foamy"01:14
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: please get used to using relative directory names01:14
Razor-Xnalioth: what work are you quoting in the wiki?01:14
seth_knomed: permissions on the file allow-unauthenticated? you're doing everything right so far :/01:14
naliothtiglionabbit: that was how he was instructed first01:14
aksmy / key is  after a default install.  Is this a known bug or new (assume a question mark here.  It got remapped to I-know-not-where)01:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth done01:14
naliothRazor-X: what?01:14
Razor-Xnalioth: for membership01:14
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: now type '01:15
weiersSomething weird happened. I think I rebooted my computer for the first time since I installed Ubuntu and suddenly my screen resolution is at 480x640 and there are no other options. How can I cange it back to something higher? It is terrible and I can hardly run my programmes.01:15
naliothls' and see if 'foamy' exists01:15
vladuz976nalioth, yeah maybe, its not that severe, but for now ok01:15
ubotumethinks resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:15
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naliothRazor-X: to sign up for pain and torture?01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea it does01:15
Razor-Xnalioth: for Ubuntu membership01:15
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: now you may proceed with the mount commend (use sudo)01:15
nomed-rw-r--r-- ..  cat /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/apt.conf.d/S80allow-unauthenticated01:15
nomedAPT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1; <-- i really don't know01:16
seth_koy, what's that S8001:16
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naliothRazor-X: for NUN membership? for ubuntu membership ya gotta see the big boss01:16
eternale1seth_k: excellent 1 more question ... during my last linux distro i had an /mnt/hdb1 in my fstab whcih was my media stuff it doesn't seem to be found by ubuntu so its not in the fstab ... do i have to manually add it?01:16
Razor-Xnalioth: the wiki says you need testimonials, and documents you have quoted in the wiki01:16
eternale1its a different drive sepreate from the install01:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYok done01:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYis that all?01:17
naliotheternale1: does "sudo fdisk -l" show your media partition?01:17
Razor-Xany joe users here?01:17
nomedseth_k, doesn't metter .. i changed it for a try01:17
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: thats it01:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^ yay thank you so much01:17
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naliothRazor-X: my mind is in a million places01:17
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`CatAny news on mono 1.1.8 ?01:17
seth_kso odd, nomed. I've exhausted everything I can think of01:17
eternale1seth_k: ah yes it does01:18
Razor-Xnalioth: Ubuntu membership is serious stuff01:18
naliothseth_k: VESA01:18
eternale1it shows it01:18
Razor-Xespecially if you push for maintainer status01:18
Stealth-Xyou stole my X01:18
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Razor-XStealth-X: i'll take the converse01:18
seth_knalioth: what about VESA, I missed something01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth thank you so much i really appriciate your help ^_^01:18
Razor-XI haven't seen you around here, and so, I can only amuse that you've taken it from me ;)01:18
naliothseth_k: VESA is jesus01:18
naliothno offense01:19
Razor-Xnalioth: XDDD01:19
nomedseth_k, just a Q more ... don't i need to chroot anywhere true? pbuilder create generate the chroot env and then i just need to call pdebuild for ex ..01:19
Razor-XSVGA PWNZ J00, Jesus (joke) ;)01:19
seth_knomed, that's right. Here's my pdebuild line:01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth why does it denie me access to storage?01:19
signbarnOkay, so just recently when i boot up, my optical drives (my DVD+R/W and CD-R/W) only show up as CD-ROM 1 and CD-ROM 2, and when I go to properties, it gives me a strange Mount Error. Just yesterday they registered as the correct "DVD+R/W, CD-R/W" and showed the name of the disc in the drive -- now they don't. Any ideas?01:19
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: what storage?01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYto the new drive01:19
seth_knomed, pdebuild --auto-debsign --buildresult ../01:19
tiglionabbitsignbarn: put a disc in01:20
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open a terminal please01:20
seth_kand then it just goes01:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth done01:20
vladuz976hey does anybody get the same problem when trying to add themes to firefox? it asks me to install the upgrade 1.04 but that is what i have, i can't even access the themes on their website01:20
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tiglionabbitvladuz976: yes, everyone does.  Change vendorsub in about:config01:20
Razor-Xvladuz976: go to about:config and make sure to edit the version string01:20
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: issue "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"01:20
Razor-Xahhh, tiglionabbit beat me to the punch ;)01:20
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1       /foamy          ext3     defaults           0    001:21
vladuz976Razor-X,  and tiglionabbit where is that file i need to change?01:21
tiglionabbitRazor-X: yeah but we're not very verbose about it01:21
signbarntiglionabbit: i have one in. it doesn't register the name, or icon in the Computer screen or the desktop, but I can play cds with the cd player and dvds with the dvd player01:21
Razor-Xno joe users to help me out here? :(01:21
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: i don't need to see anything01:21
Razor-Xvladuz976: type in "about:config" in the Firefox URL bar01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok01:21
Razor-Xyou've never played with Firefox?01:21
Razor-XFirefox is quite slow if it's unconfigured01:21
signbarntiglionabbit: and i get an error when i go to properties.01:21
nomedpbuilder create again ... uff01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYfirefox rocks ^_^01:21
naliothRazor-X: you have notices AND priv msgs01:21
Razor-X(compared to Opera)01:21
Razor-Xnalioth: ahhh, sorry01:21
eternale1seth_k: doing fstab -l shows the /dev/hdb1 but it won't mount since its missing it in /etc/fstab01:21
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: I prefer Opera myself01:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to try it is it any good?01:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe windows version sucked01:22
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok fstab is open01:22
nomedit's amazing  also links2 -g 8)01:22
seth_keternale1: try nalioth for fstab stuff :P01:22
Razor-Xnomed: especially if you compile it yourself ;)01:22
nomedyep ...01:22
tiglionabbitsignbarn: I think it depends on whether it's a music cd or data cd.  Ubuntu auto-mounts most things for you01:22
tiglionabbitubotu forget firefox01:22
tiglionabbitubotu firefox is -- to get themes, type "about:config" in your address bar, search for vendorsub, and change it from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:22
ubotui forgot firefox, tiglionabbit01:22
ubotutiglionabbit: okay01:22
vladuz976Razor-X, what are the exact names of the files please i don't see anything with version01:23
nomedi can read gmail 8)01:23
signbarntiglionabbit: should i have a music cd in when i restart01:23
eternale1i have my old fstab file im thinking maybe just adding the same line would make it work01:23
seth_kah, so you can train ubotu!01:23
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Razor-Xvladuz976: change the string "vendorsub"01:23
tiglionabbitcrap, pulled my cable out01:23
seth_keternale1: yep, go for it01:23
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nomedbut i would build my pkges in a standard way and that pbuilder :/01:23
vladuz976Razor-X, not there01:23
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Razor-Xvladuz976: i'm guessing it should be, search on the page01:23
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Razor-Xas I said above, I'm an Opera user, so when it comes to Firefox, I can't help with specifics01:24
vladuz976Razor-X, general.useragent.vendorSub01:24
Razor-XI don't bleat with the OSS browser of choise01:24
vladuz976to what?01:24
Razor-Xvladuz976: probably01:24
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Razor-Xtry it, no harm in editing it01:24
tiglionabbitubotu firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:24
ubotu...but firefox is already something else...01:24
tiglionabbitubotu forget firefox01:24
ubotui forgot firefox, tiglionabbit01:24
tiglionabbitubotu firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:25
vladuz976Razor-X, tiglionabbit change the value to "0"??01:25
tiglionabbitvladuz976: what?01:25
Razor-Xvladuz976: change it to the version string you desire01:25
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:25
tiglionabbitubotu firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:25
Razor-X1.04, in this case01:25
ubotutiglionabbit: okay01:25
Matt_Arnoldwhen I tried to access the drive on my other computer through Samba, it crashed. Now it's asking me to provide the bug report with a TCP dump. How do I acquire this?01:25
tiglionabbitthere we go01:25
tiglionabbitgrr, timeouts01:25
tiglionabbithave to wait a minute before saying it01:26
vladuz976Razor-X, i have no idea what you are talking about. or what i need to change01:26
ubotuI guess firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:26
Razor-Xvladuz976: you've never played with a text file?01:26
vladuz976Razor-X, i h ave01:26
tiglionabbithooray, much better01:26
virguleubotu virgule is curious01:26
ubotuokay, virgule01:26
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Razor-Xvladuz976: the values to the left are the variable names, and their values are to the right01:26
ubotumethinks virgule is curious01:26
Razor-Xit's that simple ;)01:26
Razor-Xubuntu forget virgule01:26
Razor-Xubotu forget virgule01:26
ubotui forgot virgule, Razor-X01:26
Razor-Xno names01:26
tiglionabbitvirgule: the admins will get mad at you for that =[01:26
virgulei woul dhave told him to forget right waay, anyway ;)01:27
vladuz976Razor-X, got it changed to 1.04 now works01:27
Razor-Xubotu names are something you should not add in me01:27
ubotuRazor-X: okay01:27
devianthello guys. cand some one pls tell me what config file do i have to edit in order to specify what files from my hdd are share by apache server.01:27
ubotunames are something you should not add in me01:27
Razor-Xdon't add personal names into ubotu01:28
naliothRazor-X: empty him of that01:28
naliothy'all dont be abusing the bot01:28
tiglionabbitubotu Debra is Ian's wife01:28
ubotutiglionabbit: okay01:28
Razor-Xnalioth: why? it's convenient01:28
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: no bot abuse01:28
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tiglionabbitlol, may I stretch the definition here?01:28
Razor-Xubotu forget Debra01:28
ubotui forgot debra, Razor-X01:28
tiglionabbitit's topical though01:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tiglionabbit01:29
naliothRazor-X: so am i01:29
ubotuI heard linux is a kernel, but commonly refers to awesomeness01:29
Razor-Xyes, linus01:29
Razor-Xthat's a name we _can_ add ;)01:29
tiglionabbitlol, I put that linux one in there01:29
tiglionabbitsomeone think of something better01:29
cafuegoubotu has 0-odd GB of storage left, we really don't care if it knows a little tidbit about *you* ;-)01:29
ubotucafuego: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:29
KyralHmmm, anyone know how to change the "Screensaver Lock Screen"?01:29
cafuegoEh, 70-odd GB01:29
eternale1thank you for the help seth_k im sure we'll speak again :D01:30
tiglionabbitcafuego: 70 gb!?  That's plenty, wtf?01:30
seth_knps eternale1, glad I could help :D01:30
Razor-Xcafuego: more than my HDD ;)01:30
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Razor-Xthe people who help here often have modest hardware01:30
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tiglionabbitcafuego: are you seriously telling me that 70gb isn't enough to store a few single lines of text?01:30
statikthats not true01:30
Razor-Xwhile those that know nothing about what they have have the most expensive hardware ;)01:30
vladuz976Razor-X, the themes install but don't change, close firefox restart it same old theme01:30
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cafuegoJust a vhost box with 2x80GB, not that full yet (just web sites & mail)01:30
Razor-Xvladuz976: not sure then *shrugs*01:30
Razor-Xas I said, i'm not a Firefox user01:31
ubotumethinks ubuntu is http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/01:31
cafuegotiglionabbit: No, I was saying you can add your few lines of text, because there is heaps of space.01:31
seth_koy, ubotu spelled the link wrong01:31
Razor-Xahhh, you can?01:31
Razor-XAmaranth was beating us on the head with sticks for doing that ;)01:31
seth_kubotu forget linux01:31
ubotui forgot linux, seth_k01:31
seth_kubotu Linux is the "kernel", or core of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of Linux. For more information on Linux in general, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux01:31
ubotuokay, seth_k01:31
tiglionabbitcafuego: then why do the admins always say "NO!  Ubotu doesn't have enough space for you to fill it with crap like that" when I put things in it...01:31
bkvi got an intallation q, if thats alright01:31
cafuego!ubuntu =~ s/ubunto/ubuntu/01:31
ubotuOK, cafuego01:31
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seth_knice cafuego :P01:32
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bkvi want to install ubuntu this week but i'll have to do a net install coz my cd drives bust, i'm going to lose xp arent i or can i tell it to only take up the free space and not remove the old stuff?01:32
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tiglionabbitbkv: you're safe.  You can resize ntfs01:32
Razor-Xbkv: you can partition the harddrive to install both01:32
Razor-XThe_Flyest: no01:32
cafuegotiglionabbit: Anyone who says that who is not me has no idea about space on ubotu <eh>01:32
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bkvah okay, i thought i'd have to do it from p with partition magic or something01:32
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ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit01:33
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The_Flyesthow can I open irc links in firefox?01:33
jasoncohenThe_Flyest, in xchat right click and choose open in existing firefox window01:33
bkvso even though xp is currently on the whole hard disk, i get the install going and it'll let me turn the free space into linux space?01:33
cafuegoRazor-X: Well, there's a subtle difference between a bunch of harmless factoinds and spam/botabuse.01:33
Razor-Xthere's a #firefox channel01:33
Razor-Xcafuego: I was proposing adding blurbs for the frequent helpers01:33
seth_kubotu ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu.01:33
ubotuseth_k: okay01:33
artist303I tried to install audacity but I get this error: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch01:34
Razor-Xother than firefox problems specific to Ubuntu, please take Firefox problems to #firefox01:34
tiglionabbitseth_k: thanks.  I was about to do that01:34
Razor-Xbecause not all of us use Firefox01:34
artist303who should I report this?01:34
cafuegoRazor-X: It's probably better to let people do their own factoids01:34
seth_kartist303: it's a temporary problem with us archive01:34
Razor-Xartist303: do you have us.archive Ubuntu repos?01:34
Razor-Xcafuego: that's what I meant01:34
bkvwhat if in a few weeks or so i want to completely remove xp and use that space, can i resize the linux partition to take up the whole hdd?01:34
Razor-Xseth_k: temporary?01:34
seth_kbkv: yes :)01:35
cafuegoRazor-X: If you want one, just add it01:35
The_Flyestright click in xchat (currently working in)?01:35
Razor-Xit's been about 4 months (IIRC)01:35
bkvbrilliant, thanks01:35
Razor-Xthat's not very... temporary01:35
The_Flyestwhat do I choose than?01:35
seth_kRazor-X: it comes and goes01:35
tiglionabbitbkv: yes, you can.  When you get to the partitioning stage, tell it you want to partition yourself.  Select the ntfs partition, and select the "size" thing on it, and change it so it's smaller, so you have room to put other things on01:35
naliothseth_k: i think its more then the us ones, i have a report the gb ones are fritzy also01:35
artist303yes, my repos is us.archive01:35
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Razor-Xremove the "us." from the entries01:35
Razor-Xand you're set01:35
tiglionabbitbkv: you cannot resize a partition from the start of it, only from the end.  So you could wipe that partition and format it as another ext3 partiton to be used by linux, yes01:35
The_Flyestjasoncohen: right click in xchat (currently working in)?01:36
DeJaVu_ZoOmalgum brasileiro aqui ?01:36
seth_knalioth, oy, that's new. Last I heard it was only US/CA01:36
The_Flyestwhat do I choose than?01:36
Razor-X(in /etc/apt/sources.list)01:36
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:36
Razor-XDeJaVu_ZoOm: no hablamos espanol en aqui, #ubuntu-es habla espanol01:36
bkvi just have to hope my net install works then... i'm on a router, i'm gonna connect with cables in case the pcmcia doesnt work and i'm gonna put the iso or whatevers needed on the other pc and set up an ftp server, right?01:36
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ubotuseth_k: Are you smoking crack?01:36
seth_kmmm crack01:36
deviant me what config file do i have to edit in order to specify what files from my hdd are share by apache server.01:36
artist303Razor-X: ok, i'll try it, thx01:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/01:37
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bkvi read something about getting the ubuntu install files off the xp partition so i wouldnt need another pc, could that work?01:37
seth_kubotu, pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto01:37
ubotuseth_k: okay01:37
Razor-Xubotu Razor-X is your friendly asexual Ubuntu helper who's writing a book on command-line usage for users new to it01:37
ubotuokay, Razor-X01:37
Razor-Xthere you are01:37
Ghetekinstalling ubuntu on a laptop i get an error at install when it gets to "retrieving gettext-base" then the screen turns red and i get a "bootstrap error"01:37
ubotutiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?01:37
ubotuinemo: I don't know, could you explain it?01:38
Razor-XGhetek: what model laptop?01:38
naliothRazor-X: please01:38
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, sorry, I'm brazilian01:38
Razor-Xinemo: no01:38
tiglionabbitubotu moo is apt-get with Super Cow Powers!01:38
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit01:38
aronim trying to install cedega after tar it and install it it says cedega command not found01:38
naliothGhetek: your cd or cd drive may need attention01:38
aronor whatever01:38
The_FlyestI have a link in firefox like irc://irc.mqkjf.com, when I click on it (in firefox), how do I make it connect automatic through xchat?01:38
eternale1does apt-get not have mplayer or xine?01:38
Razor-XDeJaVu_ZoOm: ahhh, yeah, my Spanish isn't good ;)01:38
Razor-Xgo to #ubuntu-es01:38
aronbash: cedega: command not found01:38
cafuegohowever, factoids *can* be added via '/msg ubotu'01:38
tiglionabbiteternale1: it does01:38
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, where you from ?01:38
tiglionabbiteternale1: you may need to add repositories01:38
ubotusomebody said backports was http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:38
nalioths_dogeternale1: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:38
ubotuit has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:39
ubotuit has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:39
nalioths_dogeternale1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:39
Razor-XThe_Flyest: #firefox01:39
Razor-Xuggghhhh! stop that tiglionabbit01:39
nalioths_dogeternale1: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:39
tiglionabbitRazor-X: sorry01:39
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tiglionabbitlol, double-botted01:39
Razor-XDeJaVu_ZoOm: I live in America01:39
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, what country ?01:40
Razor-XI can speak very small snatches of Japanese, some French, and some Bengali01:40
fishiei did apt-get for ethereal. when i run and enter the root pw i get the following..."Failed to run /usr/bin/ethereal:01:40
fishie Wrong password.'01:40
bkvso can ubuntu be installed off my current xp partition so i dont have to mess with ftps and such (no cd drive remember)01:40
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, ohhhhhhh cool! :-)01:40
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seth_kfishie: use sudo + your own password01:40
naliothfishie: run it from a terminal in which you've issued 'sudo -s"01:40
Razor-Xfishie: what seth_k said01:40
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:40
artist303Razor-X: thanks a lot! It works01:40
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, this is my first boot in ubuntu!01:40
Razor-Xartist303: heh01:40
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, lol ;-)01:40
naliothseth_k: some things ONLY want to run from a root user (not sudo)01:40
Razor-XDeJaVu_ZoOm: what's the prob?01:41
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Razor-Xsudo -s01:41
Razor-Xfor total root access as a root user01:41
naliothRazor-X: pay attention to your channels01:41
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budluvais anyone aware of some good sites for starting programming in ubuntu?01:42
Razor-Xbudluva: most programming is done in pure text01:42
DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, i want to lower amsn with apt-get .. but, i don't know01:42
cafuegobudluva: start by picking a language01:42
GhetekRazor-X: its a dell inspiron 410001:42
budluvawell in linux for that matter01:42
Razor-XGhetek: hmmmm....01:43
budluvacafuego, just pick one out of the hat eh? :P01:43
Razor-XDeJaVu_ZoOm: sudo apt-get install amsn01:43
cafuegobudluva: after you've picked C, get 'The C Programming Language" the book.01:43
tiglionabbitbudluva: I would recommend you go buy a book called th01:43
tiglionabbitcafuego: you beat me to it01:43
Razor-Xnot C, uggghh h;)01:43
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DeJaVu_ZoOmRazor-X, thx01:43
Razor-Xbudluva: everything's done in text files, compilers are called on the pure-text source01:43
cafuegobudluva: If you wants something a bit easier, maybe try PHP.01:43
The_FlyestI have a link in firefox like irc://irc.mqkjf.com, when I click on it (in firefox), how do I make it connect automatic through xchat?01:44
budluvaill look into both01:44
tiglionabbitcafuego: no no, have him do perl01:44
dugbugluva: python is used for some things in ubuntu01:44
Razor-Xnow the choice comes in what you want to develop (the language) and the text editor of your choice01:44
The_Flyestnodbody answers on the firefox channel01:44
cafuegotiglionabbit: I said _easier_01:44
Razor-XI myself suggest C++ or C# as a first language ;)01:44
tiglionabbitcafuego: but perl is easy01:44
wakawhen is colony-3 likely to see the light of day ?01:44
Razor-XThe_Flyest: then wait (I don't know the answer meself)01:44
cafuegoRazor-X: Suggesting C++ is a crime.01:44
seth_kcafuego: seconded01:45
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naliothThe_Flyest: in System > prefs > defualt programs or something, choose yor stuff01:45
cafuegotiglionabbit: s/easy/([-*+] ){//}/01:45
chrissturmc++ needs to be forgotten01:45
Razor-Xcafuego: If you mean objects are a crime then... ;)01:45
tiglionabbitbudluva: All you need to do is install "build-essential" and pick up the book "The C Programming Language".  You can probably write things using gedit if you're new to editors01:45
budluvaoh god look what i've started hehe01:45
cafuegoRazor-X: No, objcts are fine. C++ just isn't.01:45
chrissturmRazor-X, look at smalltalk, eiffel, ruby, for object oriented languages01:45
budluvatiglionabbit, i prefer nano :P01:45
Razor-XC's blocky syntax... you can call that fun... ;)01:45
tiglionabbitcafuego: just because the substitution expressions exist doesn't mean you have to use them01:45
naliothguys, what do you put in your fstab behind umask= so that all users can read/write?01:46
Razor-Xnalioth: not sure, I can assume it's 077701:46
seth_kno no01:46
tiglionabbit777 is read write and execute01:46
fishieit worked by just using the root terminal and just going to the folder and running ethereal.01:46
seth_kit's a mask, so you put the reverse, yes?01:46
Razor-Xerrr.. sorry01:46
cafuegotiglionabbit: I know. Still, I'm fairly proficient at C, but when I started hacking ubotu (perl) I wanted to stab myself in the eye with a fork.01:46
chrissturmbudluva, i would recommend python or ruby01:46
tiglionabbitread = 4, write = 2, execute = 1.  So read+write is 601:46
fishieso what would i need for the command to just click on it01:46
Razor-X0555 happy?01:46
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: I know my chmod ;)01:47
Razor-Xerrrr 666, sorry XD01:47
tiglionabbitunless I misunderstand umask01:47
seth_kyou do01:47
seth_kumask is the opposite of what you want01:47
seth_kso you do umask=011101:47
tiglionabbityeah, hehe01:47
Razor-Xahhh, I see01:47
seth_kand that gives the files the permissions "666"01:47
seth_ki have NO clue why it works like that01:47
chrissturmprobably its because you tell it what bits to mask :)01:48
tiglionabbitcuz it's a mask.  You know, like in photoshop?01:48
seth_kokay, rephrase01:48
seth_kI know why it works like that, I don't know why they made it work like that01:48
wakalike in haloween01:48
tiglionabbitwhen you wear a mask, you can only see the parts of you that aren't "masked" by it01:48
Razor-Xeven stil01:48
Razor-Xthe primary usage of a mask is transperency01:49
Razor-Xif fstab gets some odd kick wearing a mask... *shrug*01:49
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seth_ktransparency :P01:49
seth_kone of each01:49
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fishiewhere is the location of menu items in a directory structure?01:50
naliothso is that the final answer? umask=0111    ?01:50
tiglionabbitfishie: which menu?01:50
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Razor-Xhmmmmm... I really need to learn regex.... :(01:51
tiglionabbitfishie: locate .desktop | less01:51
tiglionabbitlemme see...01:51
Razor-Xregex was one of those things I never learned, and hte amount I text, it's about time I learn them01:51
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naliothRazor-X: scan your chans01:51
Razor-Xahhh, my mistake01:51
GhetekRazor-X: i think it was my cd write speed01:51
aronhey i am trying to install cedega and its in /home/me/folder when i install it it installs all the of directories into the wrong folder01:51
aronand it makes all the folders with permissions01:52
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fishieis this it01:52
tiglionabbitah here we go01:52
tiglionabbitall the things that show up in the menu are named something.desktop.  You can get more info by looking in their files01:53
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Tsunamiineed help01:53
seth_khi Tsunamii01:53
Tsunamiihi seth_k  :P01:53
tiglionabbitwhatcha need?01:53
Tsunamiiwhy is it when i watch flash, no sound?01:53
ubotutiglionabbit: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:53
tiglionabbitTsunamii: there's an issue I saw recently on that01:54
tiglionabbitlemme look it up01:54
seth_kesd vs polyp, yes?01:54
Tsunamiii'm missing windows :(01:55
tiglionabbitthis issue help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:55
tiglionabbitit didn't apply to me, but might to your sound card01:55
virgulehmm me think I found a bug in gluxbox's toolbar01:55
tiglionabbitfor me, this thing helped:01:55
ubotuI heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:55
Ghetekkde... crashing... cant let ubuntu channel know its happening...01:55
tiglionabbitGhetek: did you install kde, or kubuntu-desktop?01:56
naliothTsunamii: don't miss windows, windows SUCKS01:56
seth_kGhetek: did you get kde 3.4.1 ?01:56
ubotuNo idea, virgule01:56
tiglionabbitTsunamii: the flash plugin for linux is in fact pretty bad, yes.  Nothing we can do about it01:56
ubotuit has been said that ubuntu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/01:56
Tsunamiinalioth, fair enough - but all my proggies are windows based - i've come to the conclusion that linux has too little developers :(01:56
nalioth!info kubuntu-desktop01:56
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB01:56
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naliothTsunamii: you have just said the funniest thing i've heard in a while01:57
Ghetekyeah i just get an svg error sometimes01:57
naliothTsunamii: lack of developers?01:57
seth_kubotu, kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu. Go to #kubuntu for Kubuntu support.01:57
ubotuokay, seth_k01:57
Ghetekand all my images are "octet-stream"01:57
Tsunamiii understand there's heaps01:57
Tsunamiijust that01:57
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Tsunamiithere's too much trouble :p01:57
tiglionabbitTsunamii: what apps do you need?01:57
ubotufrom memory, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative01:57
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know01:57
ubotuit has been said that alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant01:58
Tsunamiiwell, wine crashes a lot for me01:58
Tsunamiiand cedega requires on-going costs01:58
naliothTsunamii: what don't you understand?01:58
naliothTsunamii: check that URL and come back01:58
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virgule!info fluxbox01:59
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB01:59
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virguleis there a quick&painless way to convert a i386.deb to a powerpc.deb?02:01
naliothvirgule: not really02:01
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tiglionabbitTsunamii: it really depends what programs you want to use.  If you are to use linux, you may as well get comfortable with some of the native linux programs, rather than trying to emulate windows.  I personally have them dual boot, but I use ubuntu much more often than Windows02:01
naliothvirgule: you can use apt to compile from source, tho02:01
naliothvirgule: you'll end up with a powerpc ubuntu package02:01
drewcan anyone here help me compile the GAIM source and install the autoprofile plugin?02:01
naliothdrew: first thing: install checkinstall02:02
mindstormread the INSTALL file02:02
ubotusomebody said checkinstall was a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation02:02
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ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines02:03
ubotuI don't know, mindstorm02:03
naliothholy cow02:03
Discipulusubotu rtfm is read the f***ing manual02:03
ubotuokay, Discipulus02:03
mindstormsomething thats not in there :)02:03
naliothmindstorm: did you mean !jfgi?02:03
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seth_kDiscipulus: i don't think that's acceptable.02:03
seth_kubotu forget rtfm02:04
ubotuseth_k: i forgot rtfm02:04
Discipulusseth_k, I appologize02:04
seth_kno worries02:04
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virguleits read the FINE manual02:04
seth_kjust remember the CoC02:04
seth_kCode of Conduct02:04
ubotuI haven't a clue, seth_k02:04
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tiglionabbitubotu rtfm is Read The "Fine" Manual02:04
seth_koy, i'll fix that02:04
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit02:04
WyzardCould someone explain to me the rationale behind disabling root's password and allowing only sudo access?02:04
lsuactiafnercoc is bad k02:04
tiglionabbitthat's what my professor always says02:04
Wyzard(Not challenging it or saying it's wrong...  just wondering)02:05
nalioths_dogseth_k: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct02:05
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:05
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lsuactiafnerWyzard : to annoy you02:05
DiscipulusWyzard, what ubotu said02:05
nalioths_dogWyzard: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:05
lumberjackhey how do i change my packages to multiverse and universe02:05
lumberjacki forgot02:05
lumberjacksomeone send me tha tlink02:05
nalioths_doglumberjack: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:05
uboturumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:05
Wyzardnalioth: thanks02:05
nalioths_doglumberjack: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:05
seth_kubotu, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/02:06
ubotuokay, seth_k02:06
lsuactiafnerwe need to make ubotu automatically !somethin so we dont need to do it02:06
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tiglionabbith'lo again Tsunamii.  Did you read that page?  What sort of programs do you use all the time in windows that you need equivalents for?02:06
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naliothlsuactiafner: if we did that, we'd be welcoming our new channelbot overlord robot masters02:07
lsuactiafnera word of advice.. dont chew vitamin c pills..02:07
lsuactiafnerrofl nalioth02:07
Tsunamiii haven't read it yet02:07
Tsunamiii'm just glad my sound works in flash atm ;p02:07
maxy_noobGuys, any ideas as to why google.com stalls in my Firefox? All other sites work.02:07
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tiglionabbitTsunamii: it'll probably still lose audio sync on long videos that aren't scene-splitted, but yeah, works ok02:08
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maxy_noobcome to think of it, Merriam-Webster only half loads too02:08
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: have you got any extensions?02:08
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maxy_noobOh, yes I do02:09
maxy_noobin FF02:09
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: did it ever work before you got those?02:09
tiglionabbityou may be blocking content or running a script02:09
maxy_noobthey may have, yes. do you recommend uninstalling them?02:09
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Wyzardnalioths_dog: hmm...  none of the reasons given there seem to provide much benefit for an experienced user who has root logins disabled in SSH and use of "su" restricted to members of group root02:09
virguleplease advise: bbmail: Aborting: No spool filename specified. Make sure then environment valiable MAIL is set   -    whats that? can I set this variable for a pop3 account?02:10
merriammaxy_noob: try with a different profile, without extensions.02:10
Wyzardnalioths_dog: (I'm trying to decide whether I want to convert my Debian systems to use sudo like Ubuntu does, or my Ubuntu systems to use su like Debian does)02:10
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: if they're messing up google, then yes.  But look through them for something that could be causing it.  Is there an adblock filter on something that could show up on google?  Is there a greasemonkey script for google?02:10
virgulewhere? how? why? when?02:10
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naliothWyzard: if you are experienced, you know how to bring root back02:10
doctor_salviaare there any engineers in here?02:10
naliothWyzard: sudo was set up for new users02:10
tiglionabbitWyzard: happy medium, just say "sudo su"02:10
tiglionabbitit'll work02:10
lucasac-unespOMG mako is never here02:11
bnryhi. is there a way to install linux in parallel with a windows system on 2 sata drives in raid0(stripped) mode with sil3112 controller, without destroying the data? thanks.02:11
Wyzardnalioth: Yes, I do, and I understand and agree with the default setting...  just trying to get a good sense of what's best for my own needs02:11
doctor_salviaanyone know what a MOS device is?02:11
Wyzardtiglionabbit: or "sudo -i"02:11
merriammaxy_noob:   firefox -P profile_name02:11
maxy_noobI uninstalled all the extensions but google still refuses to load02:11
merriammaxy_noob: and create that profile02:11
ubotuvirgule: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:11
naliothWyzard: only you can answer that. i've been using linux over 5 years and the sudo doesnt bother me (took a bit of gettin used to, tho)02:12
maxy_noobwhere do I run that command and create that profile, merriam ?02:12
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doctor_salviavirgule:  u know what a MOS is?02:12
bkvcould someone help please, i need to go to bed, basically, can i put the install cd on my xp partition and install from that or will i have to do the network install as planned?02:12
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jedixwhat's the x86_64 situation like here?02:12
merriammaxy_noob: Applications --> System tools --> Terminal02:13
cafuegobnry: Is the raid0 onfigured through the sii bios?02:13
ubotusata is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingUbuntuOnaDell8400   hm02:13
ubotulsuactiafner: Bugger all, i dunno02:13
jedixI'm currently running fc3 so that I can play quake3/doom302:13
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merriammaxy_noob: and try another browser, such as dillo02:13
maxy_noobsudo firefox -P profile_name?02:13
ubotulsuactiafner: I don't know, could you explain it?02:13
bnrycafuego: yes, the raid is made in the bios02:13
cafuegojedix: Ububntu x86_64 works fine, runs 32bit apps fine too.02:13
Wyzardnalioth: The only thing about it that bothers me is that if someone figures out my login password, they effectively have my root password too02:13
virguledoctor_salvia: sorry I dont.. lets go google02:13
cafuegobnry: Then no.02:13
maxy_noobcreate profile name?02:13
lsuactiafneri cant get the promise 3112 runnin correcrly02:13
jedixcafuego: thanks02:13
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bnrycafuego: thank you02:13
cafuegobnry: I won't even start on why raid0 is abd (especialy on a sii controller)02:14
lsuactiafnerjedix : i run native 64bit ubuntu and play q3a and doom no problems @ all02:14
virguledoctor_salvia: where did you got that?02:14
doctor_salviavirgule: can you help me out i think its a very rare chip its built to collect radiatio ni think and it has parts as a small as a micron it was givin to my father by a friend who worked for the government and designed shit02:14
naliothWyzard: password security is a never ending journey02:14
bnrycafuego: historical reasons...02:14
jedixsounds good, I'm pretty pissed off at yum/fc02:14
tiglionabbithey, dillo is cool, neat02:14
Wyzardnalioth: Indeed...  anyway, thanks for your help02:14
cafuegobnry: Your best bet is probably to buy a new smallish HD for Linux, if you can't touch windows.02:15
DonLDillo's very fast02:15
maxy_noobinstalled it, but can't findit02:15
cafuegojedix: And AMD64's also run Ubuntu ia32 just fine.02:15
DonLapplications, run application, type dillo02:15
merriammaxy_noob: It's in the obvious place.  Applications --> Internet02:16
virguledoctor_salvia: **maybe** I can help you out but I would be amazed.. Whats you wanna do with this thing?02:16
jedixI don't want to run ia32 though02:16
maxy_noobcool, thanks02:16
maxy_noobIt's not in Internet actually.02:16
maxy_noobbut when I ran, it ran02:16
merriamIt is for me.02:16
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DonLMine didn't go in the list either02:16
bnrycafuego: thanks, i have to backup my data, but it's not too easy... about 200gb...02:16
virgulethe only thing RPM& yum does better thabn apt-* is rpm -q yum provides...02:16
maxy_noobgoogle.com isn't opening with dillo either02:17
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doctor_salviavirgule: hell i dunno i just wanna know what it is, it gives output apout radioactive isotopes thats all i could find on  google i guess this is something i DEFINITLY should not have their being very secritive on my google results02:17
merriammaxy_noob: what are the symptoms?02:17
naliothwhat is the command to enable journaling on an ext2 filesystem (iow, go from ext2 to ext3)?02:17
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bnrycafuego: i will give up the dumb idea of soft raid02:17
virgulecan I see what it look like? got a pic?02:18
magnalioth: tune2fs -j /dev/hdx02:18
maxy_noobmerriam, the only symptom I see is that the browser tries to load the page.02:18
naliothmag: ty02:18
maxy_noobnothing appears for google.02:18
merriammaxy_noob: no error message?02:19
cafuegobnry: Well, soft raid is not dumb. The problem is that the bios raid option needs ptoprietary drivers. kernel mode soft raid would be fine.02:19
maxy_noobonly the title stuff of merriam-webster online dictionary appears02:19
DonLMaybe it's busy. Try www.google.ca02:19
maxy_noobI'm waiting for an error message.02:19
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maxy_noobIt'll probably say something like timed out.02:19
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merriammaxy_noob: run dillo on the terminal and watch the terminal output.02:19
maxy_noobhow do I run it in the terminal: sudo run dillo?02:20
virgulehow do I 'create' a .deb without installing it like checkinstall does?02:20
doctor_salviavirgule: hmm i cant get a picture i cant get my cam to work on linux02:20
bionicwhen making the kernel with make kpkg, where does the .deb file store? I cant find it in the current dir, and not in /usr/src/ .. anyone please?02:20
naliothvirgule: checkinstall has a build-only option02:20
maxy_noobsame thing for google.ca, btw.02:20
virgulesooo many things are possible, yet not-so-obvious-when-you-dont-know-where-to-look ;)02:21
naliothvirgule: what are you compiling? you know apt can build ubuntu packages from source, right?02:21
Discipulusgoogle.com works for me02:21
bnrycafuego: well, the idea is that both linux and windows work with it (in their way), just not the same, so i have to use one in virtual mode if i have to use it02:21
virguleyeah.. I want the latest fluxbox (0.9.1302:21
naliothvirgule: checkinstall --help02:22
virguleim already on it :)02:22
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merriammaxy_noob: That's how to run it and what it should say.02:23
virguledamn --help are not so helpfull02:23
maxy_noobmerriam, I pm'd you02:24
bnrycafuego: thanks again02:24
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naliothi'll be damned02:25
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zenlunatichow secure is ubuntu default install?02:25
naliothzenlunatic: pretty solid02:25
virguleI think It beat windows..02:25
naliothzenlunatic: no listening ports02:25
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zenlunatici see02:26
crimsunzenlunatic: no daemons listen on external interfaces.02:26
zenlunaticcool because im growing afraid of some folks in on server/channel02:26
DonLFunny. I just went through trying different browsers this past weekend. Went to a website that said "We don't do Firefox", so I downloaded Konqueror, and it said "We don't do Apple" lol02:26
virgulewww.grc.com will enlighten you02:27
zenlunaticDoenergonzo: I don't do the site :)02:27
Razor-Xas a helper here... how would you people rate me?02:27
naliothRazor-X: you suck hard02:27
Razor-Xnalioth: ;)02:27
zenlunaticRazor-X: i don't know you02:27
maxy_noobmerriam, what's the run command again02:27
crimsunvirgule: or instill a false sense of alarm/security02:27
nameless1i just made myself a iso image of a bin using bchunk and i am tryin to mount it and im entering iso9660 as the filesystem and its not working, anyone know why? it says its the wrong file system, but it isnt02:27
Razor-Xthat lasted a long time ;)02:27
Razor-Xthe amount of pepole i've helped, and none of them return ;)02:28
naliothRazor-X: you beat a dyson!02:28
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virgulecrimson: ?!?02:28
DonLI'm sure they appreciate it, Razor-X . I know I do02:28
virguleim confused02:28
naliothRazor-X: you bring a dyson to crying shame02:28
Razor-Xnalioth: XD02:28
crimsunnameless1: you need to sudo modprobe loop, and mount -o loop foo.iso /somemountpoint02:28
naliothRazor-X: is your ego stroked yet?02:28
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Razor-XI was just trying to gather testimonials02:29
merriammaxy_noob:  dillo google.com02:29
KyralNot us, I assume02:29
Kyralhmm, how would I rebuild my entire system from scratch?02:29
nameless1thanks crim02:29
crimsunnameless1: np02:29
Razor-Xdillo pwnz0rz!02:29
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virguleapt-build world?02:29
naliothvirgule: thats crazy02:29
virguleyes ;)02:30
DonLKyral, I'd just reinstall and let it re-format, if that's what you want to do02:30
virguleit take 2 week to build GNOME02:30
virgule..om my box at the least02:30
maxy_noobI pm'd merriam02:30
KyralYea, well, mine compiled KDE and all its depends in about 1 day02:30
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Kyralback when I used Gentoo02:31
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Kyralso that also meant X :P02:31
Amaranthwell, this is an improvement02:31
Amaranthi'm still on windows, but it's windows XP and it's actually my computer02:32
virguleCTCP Version me you'll know why its that long02:32
DonLI've heard Gentoo takes lots of time02:32
Amaranthnow to find linux drivers for my modem02:32
naliothAmaranth: you hitchhiking toward home?02:32
Amaranthnalioth: My sister would kill me.02:32
Amaranthnalioth: I'm here for her wedding.02:32
naliothAmaranth: heh02:32
KyralGentoo is a whore02:32
virguledont touch that02:32
nameless1crimsun: nameless1@ubuntu:/var/iso$ sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso -t iso9660 /media/iso/02:33
nameless1mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,02:33
nameless1       missing codepage or other error02:33
nameless1       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:33
nameless1       dmesg | tail  or so02:33
nameless1nameless1@ubuntu:/var/iso$ sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso -t iso9660 /media/iso/02:33
Kyralto get where you get with a base Ubuntu Install, it would take you at LEAST 5 days02:33
nameless1crimsun: its not working02:33
crimsunnameless1: drop the -t. You didn't read my instructions carefully.02:33
crimsunnameless1: note how I made no mention of -t iso966002:33
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Aragorn_guardianhi all02:33
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Aragorn_guardianubuntu is really amazing...02:33
Aragorn_guardiannice job02:34
nameless1crimsun: nameless1@ubuntu:/var/iso$ sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso /media/iso/ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy02:34
nameless1mount: you must specify the filesystem type02:34
DonLAragorn_guardian, I agree.02:34
virguleAragorn_guardian: I hear that.. Im with Ubuntu after several years on YDL and Im getting it..02:34
crimsunnameless1: umount any others, cwd, and mount the iso again02:34
Aragorn_guardianwhere i can access my services...in init.d?02:34
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naliothvirgule: i feel for ya, it only took me 2 months of ydl02:35
virguleI've been hesitant to install ubuntu because of all those fanboys back then..02:35
tiglionabbitfanboys?  where?02:35
tiglionabbitI thought most people didn't know about ubuntu02:35
KyralLike ME!02:35
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nameless1root@ubuntu:/var/iso # sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso /media/maya/02:36
nameless1ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy02:36
nameless1mount: you must specify the filesystem type02:36
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nameless1i tried with a new folder to mount it in and no workies!02:36
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Kyralso how would I build everything from scratch again (might do this for when Breezy upgrades)02:36
squirellmasterhell everyone!02:36
squirellmaster*hello :S02:37
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crimsunnameless1: did you modprobe loop ?02:37
squirellmasterlatop keyboard...02:37
WyzardKyral: You don't need to recompile things from scratch for a dist-upgrade02:37
nameless1yeah it didnt say anything tho no errors and no confirmation02:37
nameless1should it of said something?02:37
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KyralWyzard, what if I wanna compile the Upgrades from scratch?02:37
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crimsunnameless1: no, it not saying anything is a good sign.02:38
naliothKyral: this is linux, you can do waht you like02:38
KyralI know02:38
KyralI wanna know the command :P02:38
WyzardKyral: Then you can use "apt-get source" and do so...  but that doesn't really have anything to do with upgrading02:38
Kyralso something like apt-get source dist-upgrade?02:38
WyzardKyral: Go to www.debian.org and read the New Maintainer's Guide (unless Ubuntu has a similar but Ubuntu-specific document...  I'm mostly a Debian user so I don't know)02:38
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WyzardKyral: No, "apt-get source <packagename>" gets you the source package that the binary package (.deb) is built from02:39
bddebianHeya nalioth ..  Are you timing me? ;-P02:39
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bddebianHello tonk / sier02:39
WyzardKyral: You can customize things and then build the binary package using debuild or something similar02:39
nameless1crimsun: i did a chmod of the iso and now i get this new error02:39
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya # sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso /media/maya/02:39
nameless1mount: could not find any free loop device02:39
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naliothbddebian: are you running a race?02:39
bddebiannalioth: :-)02:39
ubuntu_hi from france02:39
bddebianHello ubuntu_02:40
ubuntu_salut aussi :)02:40
WyzardKyral: There are some tools meant to help automate the process if you do it frequently, but I can' think of their names offhand02:40
crimsunnameless1: lsof /dev/loop*02:40
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no_gatez_fanlike to start my ubuntu box  as ftp server on boot up...any ideas?02:40
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Wyzardno_gatez_fan: apt-get install proftpd02:40
haroldHello everyone, how are you all today?02:40
Wyzardno_gatez_fan: or some other FTP server package02:40
bddebianHello harold02:40
no_gatez_fankewl ty02:40
haroldHey there bddebian02:40
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya # lsof /dev/loop*02:40
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya # sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso /media/maya/02:40
nameless1mount: could not find any free loop device02:40
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya #02:40
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naliothharold: the army man02:41
haroldAnyone know what the repository source for unstable in Warty would be?02:41
haroldHello nalioth02:41
WyzardKyral: Recompiling packages isn't really related to upgrading though...  you compile some version of the package, and it doesn't matter whether or not you already have that version installed02:41
flughgood evening #ubuntu02:41
haroldThat's a biker cap02:41
bddebianHello flugh02:41
crimsunnameless1: modprobe -r loop02:41
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Aragorn_guardiansudo is nice, but to avoid all time of it, is good do a sudo bash...this open a root terminal 8)02:41
Camo yo neosnightmare!02:42
neosnightmarehey camo02:42
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya # modprobe -r loop02:42
nameless1FATAL: Module loop is in use.02:42
nameless1root@ubuntu:/media/maya #02:42
bddebianharold: Warty != unstable.  If you truly want unstable you would have to upgrade to Breezy02:42
flughi  have to say, my ubuntu-driven desktop is looking spiffy today. a nice change after staring at Access in XP all day ;-)02:42
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WyzardAragorn_guardian: "sudo -i" is a more direct way to do that, and it respects root's configured login shell02:42
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soulflyhi. I just compiled 2.6.12 and my mouse stopped working in xorg. is there a patch in hoary on the kernel to fix USB mouses? Im using the ExplorerPS protocol. /dev/input/mice is there and everything seems ok on the kernel side. any ideas?02:42
haroldbddebian: I'm trying to get my wifi pcmcia card recognized, and i want to install an unstable package.02:43
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bddebianharold: Why are you not running Hoary?02:43
naliothharold: yes, why ARENT you running hoary?02:43
crimsunnameless1: just reboot and reinsert02:44
haroldbddebian: To make a long story short, I only have 64MB RAM and thought Warty would be more forgiving.02:44
naliothharold: not so02:44
nameless1crimsun: will do, brb02:44
bddebianharold: Shouldnt be a problem02:44
HrdwrBoBharold: hoary is the same but better02:44
ccccan i restart the desktop without restarting X? my desktop freezes and goes blank sometimes. nautilus won't work, everything else works fine though.02:44
HrdwrBoBthere's no significant difference in terms of what they do02:44
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HrdwrBoBhoary just does it better02:44
HrdwrBoBccc: you can restart nautilus02:44
haroldEveryone: Without needing more RAM?02:44
HrdwrBoBccc: killall -9 nautilus will it02:44
naliothharold: yes02:45
bddebianharold: yes02:45
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Wyzardharold: 64MB isn't much space to run GNOME in no matter what distro you use, but it shouldn't be any worse in hoary than warty02:45
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cccHrdwrBoB: ah, worked -- thanks!02:45
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haroldHere's my strategy, everyone.  My main objective is to get the wifi pcmcia card going on this system.  I figure if i can get it going on Warty, I'll then try Hoary.02:45
soulflyi can't see any errors in xorg log eihter, but the mouse pointer doesn't move (it did in 2.6.11 with hoary patches)02:45
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lsuactiafnerrun blackbox gnome is slow02:46
neosnightmarecan someone tell me how to activate the mouse navigational buttons? i can use everything else on it but those02:46
lsuactiafneror fluxbox02:46
bddebianharold: What kind of card is it?02:46
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Wyzardharold: What kind of card is it?  (Or, do you know what driver it needs?)02:46
naliothharold: it'd probably be easier to try in hoary02:46
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Aragorn_guardiani need compile somethings in ubuntu...what i need? what packages? only gcc, for c only...02:46
haroldIt's a D-link DWL-G630, and it's supposed to work in Linux.02:47
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haroldThought it's not officially supported by D-Link.02:47
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haroldThough it's not, that is.02:47
WyzardAragorn_guardian: "apt-get install build-essential" is a good place to start, though it's not strictly the minimum set of packages you need to compile C programs02:47
bddebianharold: Do you know what chipset?02:47
haroldbddebian: Atheros02:47
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haroldRev. C for the DWL-G63002:48
HrdwrBoByou'll likely also been bison and flex02:48
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Aragorn_guardiannice...where i get info of packages in this way...how i list those packages?02:48
bddebianharold: Have you looked at dmesg?  Does it recognize the card?02:48
bddebianAragorn_guardian: You want a list of what is installed or what?02:48
tiglionabbitAragorn_guardian: you could run synaptic, and do all of this through synaptic02:49
WyzardAragorn_guardian: apt will list the packages it's going to install before it proceeds...  or you can use synaptic, and it'll tell you about dependencies when you mark the package for installation02:49
haroldbddebian; I'm not certain how to read that printout, actually.02:49
Aragorn_guardiannice...gonna try...02:49
naliothAragorn_guardian: open a terminal and type "apt-cache showpkg build-essential"02:49
bddebianharold: Go to a terminal and do:  "dmesg |grep eth"02:49
Aragorn_guardiannalioth: 8)02:50
WyzardAragorn_guardian: "build-essential" pulls in the standard set of packages used for building Debian-format (i.e. Ubuntu) packages...  so there are some tools in there that you don't need for compiling ordinary C programs, but they're small and harmless, and "build-essential" is easy to remember02:50
daviddoes anyone know how can i change which mouse button opens each menu in E16? (ive already asked in #e)02:51
Aragorn_guardianunderstand...a shortcut...02:51
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ubotuI guess build-essential is http://ubuntuguide.org/#build-essential02:51
Aragorn_guardiangonna try...02:51
haroldbddebian: It prints (among other things) "eth0: BMAC at 00:05:02:13:76:aa02:51
tiglionabbitubotu forget build-essential02:51
ubotui forgot build-essential, tiglionabbit02:51
tiglionabbit!show build-essential02:51
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?02:51
bddebianharold: Do you have another NIC or just the wireless?02:52
haroldbddebian: Also: etho0: no IPv6 routers present02:52
haroldJust the pc card02:52
Aragorn_guardiannice place this ubuntuguide....02:52
KyralSomeone remind me to do the Breezy upgrade in October overnight, its gonna be one helluva prelink02:52
tiglionabbitAragorn_guardian: don't read that.  Read the wiki02:52
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines02:52
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bddebianharold: It looks like it is picking up the card then.  What do you get if you do:  "sudo ifconfig" ?02:52
Aragorn_guardiani can work with packages from debians repository?02:52
naliothtiglionabbit: give the02:52
nalioth!crap a break02:52
ubotuI haven't a clue, nalioth02:52
Aragorn_guardiani said, if i could not found something in ubuntu ones...02:53
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WyzardAragorn_guardian: No, Ubuntu uses the same package manager as Debian, but the packages themselves are not necessarily compatible02:53
naliothtiglionabbit: !info build-esential02:53
haroldbddebian: Which part of the printout am I looking for?02:53
WyzardAragorn_guardian: If you include universe and multiverse in your sources, you have access to Ubuntu versions of many of the packages available in Debian02:53
naliothWyzard: they are very not necessarily compatible02:53
bddebianharold: eth002:53
Razor-Xshould I just link to the Creative Commons license, or should I actually keep a verbatim copy in the book?02:53
ubotufrom memory, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:53
naliothRazor-X: on the 2d page02:54
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haroldbddebian: Should I paste this puppy somewhere?02:54
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haroldbddebian: Oops, sorry, i can't!02:54
Wyzardnalioth: Well, I don't want to unilaterally say "not compatible" because some probably are, but I don't want him to get the idea that he should go installing packages from Debian without knowing what he's doing  :-)02:54
haroldI'm IRCing from a Mac02:54
haroldForgot for a moment there...02:55
Razor-Xnalioth: 2d page?02:55
naliothWyzard: installing debian packages will quickly break us02:55
naliothRazor-X: channel check02:55
Aragorn_guardianWyzard: i see, in synaptic...02:55
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haroldbddebian:  Link encap;Ethernet HWaddr 00:05:02:13:76:AA02:55
Aragorn_guardianthere are really a lot of them...02:55
bddebianharold: Does it have an IP address?02:55
andrewskiquick question: should my stepdad (using knoppix) be able to copy files from ntfs to /dev/sda1 (vfat)?02:56
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eternale1hmm i believe i added thsese extra apt-get package links using synaptic package manager but it still won't apt-get installer mplayer-38602:56
WyzardAragorn_guardian: Yep...  and I agree with nalioth's point:  though I said "not necessarily compatible", you really should never install Debian packages in Ubuntu02:56
tiglionabbitandrewski: yes02:56
haroldbddebian: yes, inet addr
Aragorn_guardiansomeone is using apache/php?02:56
andrewskitiglionabbit: any idea why that wouldn't work?02:56
Amaranthandrewski: Yes.02:56
nameless1crimsun: im back and still didnt work02:56
naliothWyzard: i get packages 1 from apt, 2 source built from apt, 3d, hand-compiled (although i run PPC)02:56
nameless1nameless1@ubuntu:~$ modprobe -r loop02:56
nameless1nameless1@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o loop /var/iso/test.iso01.iso /media/maya/02:56
nameless1ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy02:56
nameless1mount: you must specify the filesystem type02:56
haroldbddebian; /bcastl
Aragorn_guardiani dont understand correct... 8)... apache2 is the recomended? is that?02:56
tiglionabbitandrewski: dunno, but it should only work in that direction02:56
andrewskitiglionabbit: right.02:56
bddebianharold: Then you should be set.  Are you having a problem?02:56
WyzardAragorn_guardian: (The only exception would be if you're an experienced user, know exactly what you're doing, and are prepared to handle breakage in case it doesn't work)02:56
tiglionabbitdinner time, talk to you guys later02:57
crimsunnameless1: sounds like an actual iso problem02:57
Aragorn_guardianWyzard: i will remember....02:57
WyzardAragorn_guardian: Both apache1 and apache2 are actively maintained02:57
crimsunnameless1: i.e., bchunk messing up02:57
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nameless1crimsun: i made the iso with this other program so i assumed it wasnt screwed up02:57
Aragorn_guardianWyzard: ehehehe...not my case...i am new in debian world...02:57
nameless1crimsun: ill go search thru my dvd collection for another iso to test02:57
bddebianHello stetyR02:57
WyzardAragorn_guardian: apache1 is maintained mostly because there are still a lot of modules for it which haven't yet been ported to use apache2...  but unless you need some feature specific to apache1, you should probably use apache202:57
Aragorn_guardianWyzard: thanks!02:58
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Aragorn_guardianthings really seems very easy...02:58
nameless1crimsun: do u know another program like bchunk that i could try?02:58
Aragorn_guardiannever compile again...eheheheh02:58
naliothAragorn_guardian: they are02:58
haroldbddebian: Yes, I don't know how to use it, and so I've been trying to intall madwifi, but I believe I've failed.  Since I'm on an Apple PowerBook G3 (OldWorld), I had to follow some instructions to compile from source, but there were some errors somewhere in the middle of doing the install.02:58
epohsis it possible to mount ext3 and assign a different user to the target mountpoint than the source directory?02:58
haroldbddebian: So I'm not certain what to do next.02:59
haroldbddebian: So this is what I'm doing:02:59
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haroldbddebian: Trying to install linux=wlan-ng02:59
bddebianharold: For what reason?03:00
haroldbddebian: Ooops; linux-wlan-ng03:00
haroldbddebian: I'd read on the Ubuntu forums that someone with a PowerPC (Mac) had some success with my pcmcia card and using that package.03:00
Aragorn_guardiannalioth: and very well organized...03:00
bddebianharold: What doesn't work?  Have you tried to ping anything?03:01
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DonLWyzard, aren't they using a version of apt with FC4?03:01
haroldbddebian: Yet I can't apt-get install that package; apparently it's in unstable repository.03:01
Aragorn_guardiannalioth: where can i control services in init.d ?03:01
Wyzardharold: I think madwifi is the preferred driver for Atheros chips...  I've also had good success with ndiswrapper on my prism54 and some Broadcom cards03:01
haroldbddebian: I tried earlier, but not since attempting the compile of madwifi.03:01
Aragorn_guardiannot famiuliar in debian...03:01
WyzardDonL: It's available, but not the default...  they have a tool called "yum" which is similar, though03:01
naliothAragorn_guardian: i have no idea, either.03:02
haroldWizard: I had trouble installing from source; ran into some trouble while compiling.03:02
DonLAh yes. I did play with that a while back03:02
bddebianharold: Do you have anything in /etc/resolv.conf ?03:02
haroldbddebian: I'll look..03:02
WyzardDonL: main difference I can see is that instead of having a separate "update" step, it downloads updated package headers every time you use it (but the headers are small, so it doesn't take long)03:02
haroldbddebian: Two nameservers03:02
haroldbddebian: (IP numbers)03:02
DonLYum is from Yellow Dog I seem to remember03:03
bddebianharold: So what happens when you run apt-get?03:03
WyzardThat makes sense...  I guess it stands for "Yellowdog Update Manager" or something03:03
naliothDonL: Wyzard: yes , yellowdog came up with yum03:03
WyzardI'd been wondering about that03:03
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naliothDonL: Wyzard: but RPMs still suck03:03
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DonLnalioth, yeah. After years of using them I'm glad to now use apt03:04
haroldbddebian: "Couldn't find package linux-wlan-ng"03:04
naliothDonL: i found that even using yum(based on apt-get) on YDL, rpms STILL sucked03:04
bddebianharold: Does apt-get update succeed?03:04
Wyzardnalioth: I read some of their developer docs today, about creating RPMs, and from what I can see of the metadata, I think the dpkg system is more robust...  but I still think I should learn RPM better03:05
naliothWyzard: knowledge is power03:05
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DonLThere used to be big problems with dependencies. Is that still an issue, nalioth ?03:05
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haroldbddebian: In general, yes.03:05
naliothDonL: in ubuntu or redhat?03:05
DonLwith rpm's03:05
haroldbddebian: I have no problem updating other packages, if that's what you mean.03:05
WyzardDonL: They used to have "dependency hell" because there was no tool like apt/yum to automatically download dependencies03:05
naliothDonL: haven't you heard the term "red hat hell"?03:05
WyzardThat's resolved now, but the RPM format doesn't appear to have versioned Conflicts, which seems like a big shortcoming to me03:06
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naliothWyzard: yum hasnt brought much relief from 'dependency hell'03:06
DonLYes, I think I have03:06
bddebianharold: Then I am confused.  It looks like you have a working network connection so I still don't understand what you are trying to do?03:06
haroldbddebian: Well, let me ask you this - if I wish to ping, what command should I use?  ("ping <what>?")03:07
Wyzardnalioth: It seems OK to me...  downloads and installs deps as needed...  though I just installed the system yesterday so I don't have much experience with it yet03:07
DonLWhen I used Mandrake, I tried urpmi, but it wasn't much better03:07
haroldbddebian: Just to test the ping03:07
tiglionabbitbddebian: ping google.com03:07
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bddebianharold: "ping <ip address>" or "ping <hostname>"03:07
tiglionabbitoops, I meant for harold03:07
tiglionabbitharold: ping google.co03:07
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haroldbddebian: Won't that use my DSL connection, though03:07
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bddebianharold: That is why I asked if you had another network connection besides the wireless03:08
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haroldbddebian: Sorry, I thought you meant a router.  Doh!03:08
haroldbddebian: Wireless routher, that is!03:08
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merriammaxy_noob: tried it with Window?03:09
naliothWyzard: this is very very much better than rpms03:09
haroldbddebian: My apologies03:09
maxy_noobmerriam, in firefox in windows it defaults to google.ca; when I google.com in IE it stalls just like it did in firefox in ubuntu03:09
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bddebianharold: So you have a DSL connection plus the wireless adapter?03:09
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DonLmaxy_noob, that's strange03:09
haroldbddebian: Currenlty.  The only reason I have it connected to the DSL is because I'm at home now; I want to use this outside.03:10
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: is your ISP canadian?03:10
maxy_noobIt (google.ca) works perfectly in firefox (in ubuntu) now03:10
bddebianharold: OK, what do you get if you type: "iwconfig" ?03:10
merriammaxy_noob: then it may fail intermittently.03:10
tiglionabbitmaybe they're redirecting you to that country code03:10
haroldbddebian: I have it connected to DSL temporarily to get configured/setup, you know?03:10
maxy_noobwhy would it do that?03:10
haroldbddebian: One moment...03:10
naliothmaxy_noob: thought we were going with maxy_professor or something?03:10
maxy_noobwhat do you mean?03:10
naliothmaxy_noob: we are all n00bs03:11
haroldbddebbian: For lo: no wireless extensions (same result also for eth0 and sit0)03:11
maxy_nooboh, hehehe03:11
maxy_noobwell, it's relative really.03:11
Kyralwtf is sit0 anyway?03:11
maxy_noobsome of you guys are leagues ahead of many of us.03:11
merriamnalioth: most.  I've been using Linux since 93.03:11
poningruguys where do I place a font file?03:11
poningruits a .ttf03:12
DonLmaxy_noob, I just tried google.com and it redirected me to .ca03:12
haroldbddebian: Thanks for helping me, by the way.03:12
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bddebianharold: Well apparently I am not helping any.. :-)03:12
DonLMaybe there's no such address as google.com03:12
maxy_noobDonL, ya, that's what merriam has helped me achieve. Initially it just stalled.03:12
haroldbddebian: I've looked into ndiswrapper, and madwifi, and now I'm trying this package linux-wlan-ng03:13
haroldbddebian: Not true!  Every little bit helps!03:13
maxy_noobDonL, hahahahaha03:13
bddebianharold: If you do an "lsmod" do you see the driver for your wireless?03:13
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DonLmaxy_noob, glad it's working for you03:13
merriamDonL: google uses many addresses.  It forwards to the one it wants you to use.03:13
maxy_noobme too03:13
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cwilluI can't install... I get kernel panics\03:13
DonLmerriam, Really? Didn't know that03:13
cwilluright aftet 'uncompressing linux'03:14
merriamDonL: that's why it helps to use dillo and watch the console output.03:14
maxy_noobmerriam, what exactly did we do to get firefox to default to google.ca?03:14
bddebiancwillu: Are you installing Hoary?03:14
bddebiancwillu: What is the panic on?03:14
maxy_noobit wasn't doing it before03:14
naliothmerriam: i've been using it a long time and i learn something in this channel every day03:14
DonLI just tried dillo, and although I like the speed, it doesn't look good on my system03:14
cwilluI'm almost certain it's not an ubuntu problem, but I'd appreciate some help figuring out which piece of hardware might be causing it03:14
cwillu\one sec03:14
goldfishDonL: tried opera?03:14
haroldbddebian: Not certain.  I'm seeing "pcmcia_core 76788 2 ds, yenta_socket"03:15
cwillunot syncing - attempted to kill the idle task03:15
merriammaxy_noob: it tries to do that anyway.  Some of the addresses aren't reachable from where you are on the net.  You added some alternatives that work.03:15
Tsunamiihow do you play divx encoded .avi files?03:15
biovorechecking latency to a box..  need some reports on latincy
cwillualthough I've gotten it to say init task as well03:15
naliothDonL: it doestn look good on any system03:15
DonLgoldfish, I don't really like the ad banner, and any time I tried it before, I found it took up too much screen real estate03:15
KyralTsunamii, sudo apt-get install w32codec03:15
maxy_noobmerriam, you mean the echo stuff?03:15
goldfishDonL: ah right.03:15
nalioths_dogTsunamii: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support03:15
bddebianharold: Do you get anything if you do:  "iwconfig eth1" ?03:15
naliothDonL: what kind of browser are you after?03:16
cwillubrand new machine;  asus-a7880:2500amd:1gig:80gig:on-board-everything-except-for-video03:16
merriammaxy_noob: yes.  Those commands add fixed addresses for three names.03:16
haroldbddebian: "No such device"03:16
bddebiancwillu: That is a new one on me03:16
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DonLI'm pretty happy with Firefox, except for a few little things03:16
bddebianharold: Do you know the name of the driver for your wireless?03:16
TsunamiiKyral, that command doesn't work, can't find the package03:16
bddebiancwillu: Hang on a sec03:16
maxy_noobhmmmm, I just clean installed ubuntu today; never had to do that before.03:16
maxy_noobare you saying I'll probably have to do that from now on?03:16
naliothDonL: are you after fast? lightweight? why was dillo recommened to you?03:17
haroldbddebian: Nope03:17
KyralTsunamii, its w32codecs03:17
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cwilluburned three cd's, including one at 1x, as well as trying an old knoppix cd;  ubuntu image md5'd okay03:17
Kyral!info w32codecs03:17
DonLI found Dillo on "Damned Small Linux" disk and tried it there03:17
haroldbddebian: It's an Atheros chipset, I know that much.03:17
Tsunamiitried it03:17
KyralIts in Backports, damn03:17
cwillubddebian:  thanks03:17
merriammaxy_noob: if you reinstall, you may have to repeat those commands.03:17
maxy_noobdillo doesn't load all pages though03:17
Kyral!wiki Repos03:17
maxy_noobmerriam, great! 8_)03:18
DonLmaxy_noob, no. There are some limitations03:18
Kyralah screw it03:18
haroldbddebian: It's the D-Link DWL-G63003:18
Tsunamiinalioths_dog, I don't know how to package source files03:18
maxy_noobIs Firefox the best browser in Linux?03:18
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: matter of opinion03:18
maxy_noobIt doesn't seem to work as well as in Windos.03:18
merriammaxy_noob: there's something wrong with your net connection.  The problem may go away after a while.03:18
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:18
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted <---Add those to your source.list Tsunamii03:18
Tsunamiiwill do03:18
neosnightmarei think so max03:18
Tsunamiisource list where again? :)03:18
DonLmaxy_noob, for me today it seems to be.03:19
naliothTsunamii: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the 'essential package' from the d/l page03:19
ubotumethinks backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/03:19
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maxy_noobmerriam, how did you find that out?03:19
maxy_noobMozilla better?03:19
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: same difference03:19
naliothTsunamii: and after you are done with those repos, Kyral sent you, comment them out03:19
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maxy_noobwhat is commonly used in linux though?03:19
merriammaxy_noob: from dillo's output03:19
naliothTsunamii: prolonged use of those repos can mess up your system03:19
bddebiancwillu: You aren't using VirtualPC are you?03:20
DonLMozilla's the whole show, mail and everything. I heard they're not supporting it any more, but who knows03:20
goldfishKyral: It can cause problems.03:20
KyralI have NEVER had a problem with them!03:20
naliothKyral: nobody HATES backports03:20
bddebianharold: Give me a few03:20
CarlKvsFTPd - is there a .conf for anon ftp where you can only ul to incoming and  dl from pub,03:20
goldfishwhen u upgrade to breezy03:20
maxy_noobI use gmail so I don't need an email client03:20
benplautKyral: not everyone... i like them :)03:20
cwillubrand new machine, right out of the box03:20
bddebianharold: You re-compiled your kernel?03:20
Tsunamiinalioth, I can't find the 'essential' package03:20
tiglionabbitKyral: backports are unreliable, but important if you want to get certain things03:20
KyralHeck, I use Backports Staging03:20
naliothTsunamii: its on the codecs downloads page03:20
maxy_noobbiovore, ok03:20
DonLbiovore, I use Thunderbird too03:20
KyralNada broken :D03:20
haroldbddebian: I show you exactly what I did...03:20
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Tsunamiii see now03:20
KyralThe only thing that broke through Apt-Get is when I upgraded to Breezy last month (MISTAKE!!)03:21
DonLbiovore, I found Evolution pretty but a bit bloated03:21
Tsunamiiapt-get install codecs? ;o03:21
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maxy_noobcompared to firefox's performance in windows, it seems a little klunky in linux03:21
biovorethunderbird is just nice..  enigmail and works on alot of platforms03:21
bddebiancwillu: Can you disable ACPI in BIOS?03:21
Kyralapt-get install w32codecs03:21
cwilluone sec03:21
naliothTsunamii: only if you put those backports repos in your sources.list03:21
biovoreuncle same is considering using it over Outlook03:22
maxy_noobYa, if I used an email client I'd probably use thunderbird03:22
Tsunamiiso extract and double click whatever? :P03:22
DonLmaxy_noob, I've got firefox flying. There are some hints03:22
Kyralno no03:22
haroldbddebian: I followed the instructions on this page, under The Package Builder: http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi03:22
Kyralit installs by itself03:22
naliothTsunamii: extract the files into /usr/local/libs/codecs/03:22
biovorefirefox can do some directx stuff too :-)03:22
KyralApt-Get == OWNAGE03:22
Tsunamiii'm doing GUI now Kyral  :P03:22
Kyralnalioth, is he doing it via Apt-Get or downloaded files?03:22
naliothKyral: Tsunamii is looking at two methods03:22
cwillutrying it...03:23
Kyralicky icky03:23
jedixdoes the installation ask for a root password?03:23
Tsunamiii know, i prefer the apt-get install function better :P03:23
KyralYah, i removed Synaptic last month, I sometimes forget it exists :D03:23
maxy_noobthere's a speedup utility for firefox in windows (firetune or something like that). Is there an equivalent for Linux?03:23
naliothTsunamii: you are getting the newest codecs direct03:23
tiglionabbitmaxy_noob: we don't have such things in linux, unnecessary03:23
haroldbddebian: The hickup came when I attempted to follow the next step on that page, under Installing The Packages.03:23
biovoremaxy_noob: not sure..03:23
Tsunamiinalioth, there's no codec folder in lib03:23
Tsunamiithere's only python folders03:24
DonLmaxy_noob, : you have to go to go to about:config03:24
biovoreI think foxxy tune just changes the window size on the TCP subsystem03:24
maxy_noobya, but what to change, DonL03:24
cwilluits just rebooting now;  it did that before as well (once or twice)03:24
bddebianharold: So the packages built OK?03:24
cwilluit comes up to the initial opening screen (press enter or type server, etc)03:24
DonLchange :network.http.pipelining to true from false, then..03:24
naliothTsunamii: make one03:24
cwillubut it just restarts after that03:24
naliothTsunamii: and its "codecs"03:24
Tsunamiiwill it automatically work?03:25
DonLchange network.http.proxy.pipelining to true from false, then...03:25
Tsunamiihow do i create folder via console?03:25
Tsunamiielse i'll have to log in as root03:25
tiglionabbitTsunamii: mkdir03:25
bddebiancwillu: IF you can do it fast enough, try typing:  "linux acpi=off"03:25
haroldbddebian: I guess, but they wouldn't install.03:25
epohsdoes anyone know about changing file permissions on mountpoints?03:25
cwilluI have plenty of time for that03:25
bddebianharold: What was/is the error?03:25
cwillualready tried it :)03:25
cwilluI can wait at that screen indefinately\03:25
DonLchange network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 30 from 4  (if you have broadband)03:25
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bddebiancwillu: Are you replying to me?03:26
cwillubut as soon as I hit enter, it either reboots or gives me a kernel panic03:26
Tsunamiitime to put the files in03:26
Kyralwould this command work....03:26
naliothTsunamii: now any program that needs codecs will look for them there03:26
Tsunamiinow umm03:26
KyralaptU && aptUI && sudo reboot...03:26
Tsunamiido i copy the folder in03:26
cwillubddebian: yes03:26
Tsunamiior just the .dll files etc/03:26
maxy_noobDonL, done03:26
naliothTsunamii: just the individual files into the /codecs/ folder03:26
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Tsunamiiwill do03:27
Tsunamiihow do you paste via console? :P03:27
bddebiancwillu: If you hit tab at the prompt, do you have any other options to boot from?03:27
Tsunamiino permission03:27
naliothTsunamii: you use the cp command03:28
Tsunamiithanks Kyral  :P03:28
Tsunamiioh wait03:28
Tsunamiipermission denied03:28
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naliothKyral: you didnt ask which console03:28
cwilluone sec03:28
haroldbddebian: Something like this: "dpkg: error processing...cannot access archive: No such file or directory"03:28
maxy_noobis that it, DonL?03:28
bddebianTsunamii: Sometimes a right-click will paste03:28
Kyralnalioth, eh?03:28
Tsunamiiit's ghosted03:28
Tsunamiii'll have to login as root03:28
Tsunamiithe downloaded files are on my desktop03:28
haroldbddebian: So it appears the package build didn't do its job completely.03:28
DonLmaxy_noob, Another think I did was disable IPv6 in the network.dns.disable IPv603:29
maxy_noobapt-get into it!03:29
naliothharold: how diffecult would it be to upgrade to hoary?03:29
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maxy_noobI like that wall03:29
Aragorn_guardianvery nice...03:29
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Aragorn_guardiancompiling works...ehehehe03:29
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naliothAragorn_guardian: checkinstall is your friend03:29
Aragorn_guardianbut is few dangerous...i know...03:29
haroldnalioth: Not difficult, thanks to your and others help.  Just time consuming, and I'd really like to get my pccard going.03:29
bddebianharold: If you do an "ls" the file madwifi-toolsXXXX.deb" is in the directory that you are in?03:29
naliothharold: you are not having much luck NOW03:29
Tsunamiii'll just set the permissions03:29
Aragorn_guardianyeah...even scite is in the repository... 8)03:29
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cwillubddebian:  I should qualify that:  I see it extract the images, it was giving me an corrupted image error before (I don't see it anymore)03:30
haroldbddebian: You're helping alot, by the way - i mean it.03:30
cwilluif I hit tab, nothing happens03:30
naliothharold: perhaps a newer ubuntu version might help with these fellows attentions03:30
tiglionabbitwoo, I'm ready for some pain, bring on Gentoo!  *downloads*03:30
maxy_noobDonL, ok cool, thanks03:30
naliothTsunamii: use "sudo cp blah blah"03:30
Ghetekim trying to get ubuntu installed on a laptop and i want to get the screen resolution working right http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/portege_7020ct.pdf#search='7020ct%20tft%20specs' this is the link to the pdf that has all the info on the screen and i am in the screen configuration utility now i just am having trouble deciphering all of this03:30
naliothTsunamii: you start messing with permissions, and things go wonky03:30
DonLmaxy_noob, worked for me.03:30
maxy_noobseems a little better03:30
bddebiancwillu: You said that you tried a few different CDs?03:30
Kyralno touchy permissions03:31
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bddebianOK, smoke break, brb03:31
Tsunamiibut i'll chmod it back D:!03:31
DonLI've got company. Must go.03:31
Tsunamiiit didn't work anyways :P03:31
haroldbddebian: The madwifi-tools shows up in the debian directory that is created.03:31
maxy_noobDonL, hahahaha03:31
DonLSee ya later!03:31
Tsunamiiso where can i put the files somewhere that my root account can access?03:31
haroldbddebian: Enjoy your smoke; I'03:31
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cwillu3 ubuntu's (image was md5'd), one burned at 1x, two different brands, and an old knoppix I had lying around03:31
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Tsunamiioh cp03:31
bddebianharold: The .deb files?03:31
haroldbddebian: I'll explain later.03:31
Tsunamiiwhat about paste?03:31
Tsunamiii've already copied via GUI03:31
naliothTsunamii: use "sudo cp * /usr/local/lib/codecs"03:31
bddebiancwillu: Have you tried a live-cd just to see if it boots?03:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know why after installing a harddrive and setting it up i can't wright to it?03:31
haroldbddebian: There's a debian directory created in the madwifi-1.6 dirctory...03:32
cwilluknoppix is a live cd03:32
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: It'smounted read-only ?03:32
naliothTsunamii: you can only use copy/paste in the gui if you opened the gui as root (WHICH IS VERY NOT ADVISED)03:32
haroldbddebian: But as far as I can see, the compile did not create...03:32
bddebiancwillu: Whoops missed that you said that, sorry03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it's mounted (rw)03:32
cwilluthis is dying before I get any of the usual [ok]  stuff03:32
naliothbddebian: can you help ChurcH_of_FoamY ?03:32
Tsunamiiis there a way to cp all files?03:32
haroldbddebian: ...the .deb file that I'm supposed to install.03:32
naliothTsunamii: i just showed you03:32
Aragorn_guardianubuntu device database is a nice peace of work....03:32
bddebianharold: The /debian directory is for building the package03:32
Tsunamiicp blah blah blah ?03:32
haroldbddebian: As far as I can tell, but I'm not even certain where I'm supposed to look.03:32
Aragorn_guardianvery useful03:32
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haroldbddebian: okay03:33
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naliothTsunamii: in a terminal, cd into the expanded donwloaded codec directory, and run that command03:33
Aragorn_guardianmy system poped in front of me...working...ehehehe03:33
zenlunatichelp i think someone has broken into my system and i don't know how to tell. firestarter says 7 incoming connections03:33
cwilluI tried _under_clocking_ the machine (bus and cpu), turned off the l1/2 caching;  decompressing took a while, but it still crashed03:33
virguleanyone using kmail on fluxbox in here?03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYboy that godsmoke guy in kubuntu keeps calling me a retard >.<03:33
bddebianharold: In the madwifie-1.6 directory do an "ls *.deb"03:33
naliothTsunamii: i actually sent you the exact command to use03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat is his problem with me?03:33
haroldbddebia:  See, the instructions on that page say to cd into madwifi-1.6 and run dpkg -i madwifi-source_20040619_all.deb03:33
harold  dpkg -i madwifi-tools_20040619_i386.deb03:33
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: ignore him03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi did03:34
haroldbddebian: One sec...03:34
Tsunamiimissing destination files03:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYand buy the way why can't i wright to the hard drive i set up?03:34
bddebiannalioth: Do you know if we have fsysopts somewhere?03:34
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: we are all retards. i'm the king of them03:34
haroldbddebian: No such file03:34
Tsunamiirather weird03:34
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^ lol03:34
virgulethen im 2nd03:34
Tsunamiii'm in the dir of the files, and did the cp command03:34
naliothbddebian: i have no clue what that even is03:34
bddebianharold: Then the dpkg-buildpackage must have failed03:34
Tsunamiibut it asks for destination files03:34
hondjewhy does that link in the forum at the top right say ubuntu.com, and link to ubuntulinux.org?03:34
bddebiannalioth: Never mind :-)03:34
haroldbddebian: I guess03:34
haroldbddebian: I followed the instruction on that page to the tee.03:35
tjrtjiceGahondje: isnt it the same thing?03:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYum what just happend?03:35
naliothTsunamii: use "sudo cp * /usr/local/lib/codecs/"     <<<< try that03:35
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bddebianharold: Go into the madwifi directory again and run the "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage" again03:35
KyralChurcH_of_FoamY, what did you format it in?03:35
Tsunamiidoesn't work03:35
bddebianharold: And let me know the errors03:35
Tsunamiimissing destination files03:35
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: What is the error?03:35
Tsunamiiit says omitting directory03:35
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KyralI never got my Ext3 2nd HD to work03:35
naliothbddebian: start with ChurcH_of_FoamY as if he just bought a new HD03:36
bddebiancwillu: Sorry, I'm having a hard time keeping up.  Do you have any "strange" cards in there?03:36
Kyralso I formatted it in FAT32 :P03:36
haroldbddebian: It begins the process...03:36
cwillubrand new machine, only card in it is a radeon 725003:36
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hondjetjrtjiceGa: It doesn't redirect, it's actually anchored to ubuntulinux.org03:36
Kyralused the fstab to Force it into being writable by everyone03:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe error is access denied to /home/shane/attic/STORAGE03:36
naliothTsunamii: cd into /usr/local/lib/codecs/03:36
tjrtjiceGasame thing, I dont get your point, nm.03:36
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naliothTsunamii: and run this: "ls"03:36
cwillubddebian:  it has onboard net/sound (both disabled), sata (can't find a way to disable, but nothing plugged into it)03:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYand then it stops the file transfer03:36
haroldbddebian:...when it gets to dpkg-checkbuilddeps, it prints "Unment dependencies: sysutils"03:37
naliothTsunamii: what did it say?03:37
tuksDoes anyone know where the inet1.conf is in ubuntu?03:37
cwillu1 gig of 512ddr03:37
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Doing what?  Do you get the same error if you use the command with sudo?03:37
Tsunamiiit just went to another line03:37
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haroldbddebian: ...then...03:37
KyralChurcH_of_FoamY,  format it in FAT3203:37
bddebianharold: Ahh03:37
bddebianharold: "apt-get build-dep madwifi03:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhold on one at a time heads gonna go poof >.<03:37
Aragorn_guardiani need more tools to admin the servers...like apache, samba, etc...there are tools in ubuntu for that?03:37
haroldbddebian: Will do.  Got have a smoke!03:37
naliothTsunamii: run this: "sudo cp /path/to/downloaded/codecs/* ./"03:37
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Tell me about it :-)03:37
haroldbddebian: You shouldn't smoke, by the way.  That's kills.03:37
bddebiantuks: What is looking for that?03:38
naliothAragorn_guardian: yes03:38
Ghetekdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wont let me get 1024x768 @ 85 mhz03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it starts to transfer the data and then after like 10 min it stops03:38
haroldbddebian: I had to quit smoking.03:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand gives all sorts of access errors03:38
bddebianharold: I should03:38
virgulesmoking one pack per day is more expensive than a new car loan03:38
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bddebiantuks: I mean is some package looking for it03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYall i want to do is dump a 32.2 gig file on it03:38
bddebianvirgule: Tell me something I DON"T know :-)03:38
KyralChurcH_of_FoamY, format it into FAT3203:38
haroldbddebian: You should.03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy i just made it ntfs03:38
tuksIt's the file that I need to edit to get internet working...03:38
bddebiantuks: Do this:  "sudo find / -name inetl.conf"03:38
tuksin slackware.03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't understand >.<03:38
bddebianNTFS?? WTF?03:39
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: NTFS and linux dont go together03:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi meant ext303:39
KyralYou made it NTFS and NOW are asking why you cannot write to it?!03:39
bddebiantuks: Slackware?03:39
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cwillulol :)03:39
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virguleyep.. its like bear and chocolate03:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYgetting confused here lol >.<03:39
tuksAnother version of linux.03:39
Kyral/dev/sda1       /media/anime    vfat    rw,auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 0 0        0       0 <---That line got my HD working when I used FAT3203:39
tuksInternet works in ubuntu, but not slackware.03:39
haroldbddebian: "Unable to find a source package for madwifi"03:39
dszaboquestion: why won't skype version work on Ubuntu but will work on MEPIS?03:39
tuksSo I want my ubuntu file as a reference.03:39
Gheteki change my xserver stuff and it just goes back to 640x480...03:39
bddebiancwillu: Can you yank out the SATA controller or is it embedded?03:39
cwillueverything's on the mb03:39
naliothharold: i really suggest you upgrade to hoary03:40
Kyralreplace /dev/sda1 and /media/anime with your respective things03:40
Tsunamiinalioth, cp: omitting directory `/home/tsunamii/Desktop/Downloads/codecs'03:40
cwillubddebian:  I suppose I could look for a jumper03:40
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bddebiantuks: Oh, try that command.  Or you probably need to look at /etc/network/interfaces03:40
bddebiancwillu: Are you sure the IDE stuff isn't on it?03:40
tuksOk... thanks.03:40
haroldnalioth: I've already burned the CD of Hoary; is that the fastest way?  The fastest?03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYwaits in line03:40
naliothTsunamii: i'm sorry, i must be tired03:40
Tsunamiii'll find a way to do it via root account03:40
cwilluthe normal bios picks up the hd and cd, there's a second bios post that shows nothing03:40
KyralPM me for help03:40
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naliothguys, how to you copy files in the terminal???? tell >>> Tsunamii03:41
Aragorn_guardiannalioth: what ones?03:41
zenlunaticwhat is sun-RPC portmap in firestarter mean?03:41
naliothTsunamii: you can use sudo03:41
Kyralcp <source file> <dest file>03:41
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Tsunamiiyeah, but i'm in the root terminal - so no need for sudo command03:41
bddebianUhm cp03:41
Tsunamiii'll try that Kyral03:41
haroldnalioth: I BitTorrented Hoary a week ago, but I had already picked up a copy of Warty about 6 months ago at SoCal Linux Expo.03:41
dszaboWhy won't Skype work on Ubuntu? I've tried the Debian and tar.bz2 install...03:41
haroldbddebian: Need a break?03:42
bddebianharold: You might want to try the Hoary if you have it03:42
neoliminalHi, I'm trying to install and the only problem is when I try to log in the pointer freezes.  Is this a known problem?03:42
Tsunamiidoesn't work $%&*(03:42
naliothharold: put the cd in the machine (you do have a cd drive, right?) and open a terminal and type "apt-cdrom"03:42
Tsunamiikeep saying omitting direcory03:42
haroldnalioth: Nope03:42
CarlKdszabo - forget skype - use something standard and opensource like kphone03:42
flodinecan someone tell me how to change xclock theme03:42
bddebiantsume: Show me the command you typed03:42
Tsunamiimeh, i'll just put it on my usb flash disk03:42
cwillubddebian:  sata's built into the southbridge though... dunno what all that affects03:42
naliothKyral: send those backport urls again, please03:42
haroldnalioth: Actually, I've been networking it to another old Mac which has a CD drive.  It's worked after some serious, as you say, Voodoo.03:42
bddebiancwillu: SATA shouldn't be a problem.03:43
nalioths_dogTsunamii: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:43
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:43
skoradszabo, if you're still willing to use skype, i'd use the ubuntuguide's sugggestion03:43
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Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted <---Add those to your source.list Tsunamii03:43
cwillubddebian:  which is good to hear, seeing as I can't turn it off :)03:43
CarlKdszabo - there are a bunch of sip and h232 phones - sip is "better"03:43
naliothharold: either way, you want to do it03:43
naliothharold: i think having a newer version may help you03:43
bddebianharold: Well you could try apt-get install sysutils, then try the dpkg-buildpackage again03:43
Tsunamiiok Kyral03:43
pauldaousthey folks, has anyone dabbled in lm-sensors?03:43
Tsunamiiwhere's my source list?03:43
Kyralwhich sources.list :P03:43
bddebianneoliminal: ?03:43
skorarequires root03:43
haroldbddebian: I'm getting this; I was think that...so I'll try...03:43
naliothTsunamii: follow the dogs inst with Kyral URLs03:43
pauldaoustmy compy sez it's running at 75C, but that's crazy; I've never heard of an Athlon 1600+ running that hot03:44
neoliminalI have just installed ubuntu, and when I try to log in, the pointer freezes.03:44
naliothTsunamii: read the nalioths_dog instructions03:44
Tsunamiihey ?03:44
pauldaoust(mind you, I am converting FLACs to MP3s, but even when I'm not, the temp hovers around 68-70C)03:44
haroldbddebian: It's installing sysutils.03:44
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Tsunamiii'll just change the source.list - i've done it before :P03:44
nickrudTsunamii I believe I usually get that 'directory' omitted when a wildcard copy includes a directory, but I didn't tell cp to recurse through directories03:44
merriampauldaoust: I've run my 900 MHz Thunderbird over 90 C.03:44
pauldaoustmerriam: wow. how?03:45
merriamThe fan stopped.03:45
pauldaoustI personally think I just need to calibrate sensors.conf or soemthing, but I haven't found a resource that gives any recommendations.03:45
skoratsunamii, did you update your list ?03:45
pauldaoustmerriam: ah :)03:45
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dszaboSIP doesn't work very well on my connection03:45
skorayou have to update it via the command: apt-get update03:45
Tsunamiiin snaptic03:45
pauldaoustmerriam: mine makes nasty noises, but it seems to be okay, and I can touch the heatsink without any pain or burns03:45
Tsunamiidid that already skora03:45
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zenlunaticwhat is "sun rpc portmap" anyone?03:45
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pauldaoustzenlunatic: terrible virus!03:46
haroldbddebian: Did both...03:46
pauldaoustzenlunatic: don't know, but is it running on your Ubuntu system?03:46
bddebianzenlunatic: Where are you getting that?03:46
zenlunaticpauldaoust: stop messing03:46
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eternale1i've been a loyal gentoo user for about two years but had some major help setting it up... i must say im very impressed with ubuntu i got pretty much everything i needed up and running already03:46
zenlunaticpauldaoust: yes03:46
zenlunaticbddebian: in firestarter im getting that03:46
pauldaoustzenlunatic: and where do you see it? netcat?03:46
TsunamiiKyral, after that, apt-get win32codecs?03:46
bddebianneoliminal: Anyone what?  Just ask a question if you have one03:46
eternale1with a little bit of help from you guys, btw very nice community03:46
cwilluneoliminal:  can you hit ctrl+alt+1?03:46
bddebianzenlunatic: It might be looking for sockets03:46
cwilluhe did :p03:46
neoliminalI'll try cwillu03:46
Jimbobzenlunatic: portmap is a daemon used for NFS network mounts03:46
Kyralsudo apt-get install w32codecs03:46
skorathanks eternale103:47
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nickrudneoliminal maybe the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log will have some useful errors03:47
pauldaoustzenlunatic: sorry, I can't read :)03:47
zenlunaticJimbob: could it be someone breaking in?03:47
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bddebianneoliminal: Sorry, too many questions flying about.. :-)03:47
cwilluneoliminal:  should flash you to a terminal screen03:47
cwilluI'll try to help him dbddebian :)03:47
Jimbobzenlunatic: Doubtful03:47
neoliminalI'm on terminal screen.03:47
haroldbddebian: I believe I'm going to install Hoary.03:47
neoliminaland now I can log in.03:47
pauldaoustzenlunatic: I wouldn't turn it on; it sounds really unnecessary. However, I'd also expect that if you left it open, there's no service on your Ubuntu computer that would be listening on that port anyway... however, you want to close up any unused ports to avoid SYN floods03:47
Tsunamiididn't work Kyral =(03:48
Jimbobzenlunatic: Just shutdown portmap and you'll be fine.03:48
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Tsunamiicouldn't find package w32codecs03:48
Tsunamiihow do you download it? ;o03:48
Jimbobsudo /etc/init.d/portmap stop03:48
cwilluneoliminal:  okay03:48
haroldbddebia: Thanks for your help; I do appreciate your time.03:48
neoliminalcwillu: how do I get to graphical interface now?03:48
cwilluneoliminal:  hit alt+703:48
bddebianharold: OK, sorry man03:48
cwilluneoliminal: should take you back to the frozen screen, or perhaps just a black screen:  let me know03:48
merriampauldaoust: You'll need portmap if you want to use nfs.03:48
haroldbddebian: Nah, don't be.  I've learned a trick or two...03:48
neoliminalcwillu: frozen screen03:48
KyralWTF mate, I'm finding it03:48
Kyraltry this03:49
cwilluneoliminal:  hit ctrl +alt+backspace03:49
Kyralapt-cache search w32codecs03:49
haroldbddebian: ...but since yesterday I've been told that I should give Hoary a shot.03:49
tjrtjiceGaKyral: you have, and he does not backports.03:49
pauldaoustmerriam: oh, I'll keep my mouth shut ^_^ I didn't know it was needed for NFS... I figured, 'Sun RPC' -- superfluous03:49
neoliminalcwillu:ok, now back at login03:49
haroldbddebian: I just wanted to get that wireless card going before taking the time with installing Hoary.03:49
bddebianharold: Good persistance :-)03:49
cwillucan you move mouse?03:49
Kyraloyah, Tsunamii, did you do a sudo apt-get update after adding those lines to your sources.list?03:49
neoliminallet me check03:49
tiglionabbithey guys, what's a good way to find the size of a directory, including all subdirectories in it?03:49
Tsunamiiyeah, just did it - works now :P03:49
ed1twhere do i go in ubuntu to get the gnome themes?03:50
Tsunamiii'm a nub :P03:50
Kyralsokay :D03:50
neoliminalcwillu: nope... and the mouse is not "on".03:50
KyralI forgot to do that today :P03:50
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cwillucan you type?03:50
merriampauldaoust, zenlunatic: portmap isn't necessary for most users as far as I know.  I use it because I use nfs.03:50
Tsunamiiso now when i watch divx encoded .avi - it should automagically work?03:50
pauldaoustI'm cooking my computer!!! It really is as hot as it says it is: 76C03:50
pauldaoustit's really hot to the touch03:50
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tjrtjiceGaed1t: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org03:50
neoliminalcwillu: yes!03:50
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Tsunamiii am god.03:50
skoraed1t, do you want to access them in your desktop ?03:50
cwilluwhat type of mouse?03:50
cubicoolis libpng12-dev not available?03:50
seth_kTsunamii: God uses BSD.03:50
cwilluusb or ps2?03:50
ed1tskora, yea i guess03:51
merriampauldaoust: 76 C isn't an emergency, but it's good to keep it under 60 C most of the time.03:51
bddebianseth_k: No, God uses GNU/Hurd ;-P03:51
neoliminalkeyboard is not usb03:51
haroldbddebian: One thing - I've been googling this, and I can't seem to find the repository I should add to get this package (that I've been mentioning): http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/linux-wlan-ng03:51
pauldaoustwell, I guess I need a new cooling fan...03:51
Tsunamiiok, now that this works - gotta find some time to emulate windows properly03:51
tiglionabbitah, du -sh03:51
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Tsunamiiwine is dodgy :p03:51
cwilluneoliminal:  try it on a different port (might give it a reset too)03:51
haroldbddebian: Any idea where I can find that info.?03:51
pauldaoustmerriam: really? I know the Athlon64 my brother bought (lucky bastard) has a max operating temp of 7003:51
bddebianharold: Well I know it is in breezy.  It might be in Hoary too03:51
KyralWhy need to emulate Windows?03:51
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Tsunamiito run window programs? D:!03:51
neoliminalcwillu: did that.03:51
KyralI know I use Cedega to play games, but thats IT03:51
Tsunamiibut that costs money D:!03:51
cwillubddebian:  you aren't under the impression that stallman is god, are you?  :P03:51
KyralTsunamii, name a windows program you need03:51
bddebianharold: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?03:51
haroldbddebian: Really?  Well, I guess there's another reason to be upgrading.03:52
Tsunamiihalf life03:52
bddebiancwillu: Hell no03:52
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skoraed1t, go to the top, and then click on system, preferences, and then theme03:52
cwilluneoliminal:  okay, flip back to the console03:52
KyralCedega for the first two03:52
skoraTsunamii, there's the GIMP...hehe03:52
KyralGIMP for Photoshop :D03:52
TsunamiiCedega = $$ ?03:52
neoliminalcwillu:what's the command for that again?03:52
cwilluneoliminal:  log in, and type 'dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server03:52
gbictry cvscedega03:52
merriampauldaoust: different processors.  You could look up the spec for yours...03:52
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skoraalthoug this page is outdated, look at this one - http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml03:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java03:52
epohsi have a question reguarding anonymous ftp and permissions that probably wouldn't take too long to answer.  would anyone be willing to help for a minute or two?03:52
haroldbddebian: I have the universe ones, but not the multiverse.03:52
KyralCedega == $5 month03:53
pauldaoustmerriam: ah, I thought it was a limitation of the materials themselves (i.e., silicon)03:53
skoraed1t, did you find it ?03:53
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merriampauldaoust: but yes, get a good fan and heat sink.03:53
seth_khmm, ubotu has an extra slash in the java url03:53
Kyralfor 3 months03:53
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bddebianharold: You could try multiverse, but I would really try hoary.  I had some install problems on my Thinkpad with Warty and when I installed Hoary it was aOK03:53
ed1tskora, yea wat file shall i point it to? i downloaded one03:53
ed1ti mean which file03:53
neoliminalcwillu: it wants me to be root03:53
pauldaoustmerriam: no kidding... I have a bit of $ to play around with; maybe I'll look into one of those ones that run cool and quiet03:53
Kyralafter three months, you can stop subscribing if you want03:53
cwilluput a \'sudo' before that03:53
seth_kubotu forget java03:53
ubotui forgot java, seth_k03:53
cwilluignoring the slash03:53
seth_kubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:54
ubotuokay, seth_k03:54
pauldaoustwell, ta, folks; I'm going for supper03:54
cwilluand then it's just the normal password03:54
Kyraland tis WORTH it03:54
skoraed1t, you have to extract your theme, which is compressed in a .tar format, most likely03:54
Aragorn_guardiangonna home....till tomorrow...thanks all03:54
ed1ti did that,03:54
merriampauldaoust: I have a quiet box here with a cheap copper heat sink and a 12 V fan running on 5 V.03:54
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neoliminalcwillu: xorg-server is not installed03:54
nickrudcwillu neoliminal not to butt in, but it'x dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:54
nalioths_dogseth_k: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 03:54
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haroldbddebian: Do you think upgrading to Hoary may also fix the display issue I'm having?  I'm in the terminal, and it displays multiples of the terminal (and flickers).  Others with PowerBook installs of Ubuntu have had this issue...03:54
skorago to install theme and direct it to the location you extracted it to03:54
cwillunickrud:  thanks03:55
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cwillualways get that backwords :p03:55
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bddebianharold: It could, though I don't have much experience with Ubuntu on OldWorlds.  Just Debian.03:55
nickrudcwillu np, I've typed that a zillion times over the last few months :)03:55
neoliminalcwillu it's asking about video hardware03:55
ed1tskora, it says invalid file format03:55
cwillujust keep hitting enter03:55
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mpmhullo; anyone know how I might try and make cd-audio burned under say gnomebaker more readable by an older cd-player that will read many cd-rs but not all?03:55
eternale1does gnome have a keys file like fluxbox?03:55
cwilluslowing up if you see something about the mouse, and make sure those look sensible03:56
epohsis it possible to mount with different permissions than the source?03:56
neoliminalcwillu: ok, at the mouse thing03:56
skoraed1t, what format is it in ?03:57
haroldbddebian: Thanks; I'm going to try that repository and then upgrade to Hoary one of these days.03:57
cwilluwhat's it defaulting to?03:57
bddebianharold: :-)03:57
dszaboQuestion about Skype (again)03:57
ed1tskora, i dont understand, coz i extracted all the file in the folder download03:57
bddebianharold: If you have a connection, just change your sources.list to point to Hoary and then do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and BAM, you have Hoary ;-P03:57
ed1tso there is a folder DLfun, there are like bunch of files03:57
epohsthe -uid option doesn't work with ext3, right?03:58
ed1twhich file shall i point it to?03:58
skorawhat extensions do they have ?03:58
eternale1where would i find this gnome-keybinding-properties03:58
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skoraprobably to index.theme03:58
skoraif there's such a file in there03:58
skorawhere did you get the theme from ?03:58
jedixcan someone tell me how to resize my desktop so that I can see all four corners?  I have my box hooked up to my hdtv03:58
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neoliminalcwillu: it has several options03:58
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ed1tskora, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/104603:58
neoliminalasking for mouse port03:58
poningruanyone know why my xchat wont use unicode?03:59
Tsunamiiwhat the? it doesn't work - i'm using aviplay - but there's still no sound for the .avi :(03:59
ed1tam i downloadin it right?03:59
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pinkoquestion on operamotifwrapper: what does it do?03:59
KyralTsunamii, sudo apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine03:59
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virguleGhetek: put a Modeline line in xorg.conf.. thats what solved my resolution issues03:59
Tsunamiicouldn't find package03:59
cwilluneoliminal:  one sec so I can find a box I can do the same thing so I can see what options you have so I can tell you what might be a valid option :)04:00
Kyral!info xine-ui04:00
ubotuxine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1669 kB, Installed size: 3364 kB04:00
virguleyep.. this goes in Monitor Section... use gtf to generate the line04:00
Ghetekvirgule: what is a modeline04:00
virguleIE: gtf 1024 768 7004:00
Tsunamiigot it04:00
Tsunamiityped it wrong :p04:00
Tsunamiimy bad04:00
zenlunaticis # tcpdump -vv -X a bad command to run?04:00
Ghetek virgule: can you baby step me a bit04:00
skoraed1t, on the comments there, it does say that another person had a problem with that SVG file extension04:00
Kyral!info totem-xine04:00
virgulesure ;).. PM04:00
ubotutotem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB04:00
Tsunamiiah, i better comment the line again back in sources.list04:00
TsunamiiKyral, dw, i got it :P04:00
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cwilluneoliminal:  did you get "attempt mouse autodetection"?04:01
Tsunamiiyou're my hero Kyral04:02
neoliminalcwillu yes04:02
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KyralI enjoy what I do04:02
cwilluwhich did you say?04:02
neoliminalcwillu: I started over04:02
neoliminalI can pick either yes or no there.04:02
skoraed1t, i've never worked with that file type before [svg] 04:02
KyralI swear, I'm getting into heaven by helping people here04:02
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skoraKyral, it's the karma boost ^_^04:02
jedixthat counts?04:02
jedixI thought mythtv was in a repository04:03
cwilluneoliminal:  auto-detect, and then I think it shoudl be /dev/input/mice04:03
Kyral!info mythtv04:03
ubotumythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.17-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 64 kB04:03
drewcan anyone here help me compile the GAIM source and install the autoprofile plugin?04:03
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bimberijedix: It's in multiverse04:03
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neoliminalcwillu: Yes, it says dev/input/mice04:03
neoliminalshould I try that?04:04
jedixhow do I add that to my apt source?04:04
ubotuit has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:04
cwillukeep hitting entre04:04
cwilluthe rest of the settings (3button, scroll events) shouldn't matter04:04
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bimberijedix: See ubotu's answer (above)04:04
neoliminalok, now on  modules to load04:04
ed1tskora, u know where to fine more ubuntu backgrounds?04:04
cwilluenter enter enter04:04
skoraed1t, for the log in manager ?04:05
cwilluyay for ssh :)04:05
ed1tskora, no for desktop background04:05
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neoliminalcwillu: ok, now it's done04:05
neoliminalnow what?04:05
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enostupid question: what is kubuntu?04:05
bimberinp :)04:05
cwilluand see if you have a mouse04:06
bimberieno: ubuntu with kde instead of gnome04:06
Kyraleno, Ubuntu with KDE installed instead04:06
enooh, no big deal then04:06
enoKDE is cool though . . .04:06
neoliminalcwillu  :(   no joy04:06
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slipaway172not quite04:06
skorathere's deviantart.com and more importantly, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194004:06
cwilluneoliminal:  I dont' know that this will make any difference04:06
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cwilluneoliminal:  but go into the bios and see if you can see 'enable legacy usb support'04:07
slipaway172but kde is still buggy ( kubuntu) compared to gnome (ubuntu)04:07
neoliminalcwillu:  the usb doesn't seem to even be powering the mouse... there's not red light in the mouse04:07
enoisn't kde what knoppix runs on?04:07
slipaway172no power04:07
enocause I love knoppix04:07
cwilluneoliminal:  does it flashy when you reboot?04:07
kcburyshakerhello   i am brand new to ubuntu  and just got it installed  i need help!04:07
KyralKnoppix uses KDE04:07
bimberieno: yes04:07
cwilluflash even?04:07
enoyeah that's why I like KDE04:07
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neoliminalcwillu: it does yes.04:07
cwilluokay, check the legacy, make sure the usb controller is actually turned on\04:07
cwilluit's weird though, cause it does seem to detect it04:08
kcburyshakeri clicked the red update button in the top right corner  but it is downloading REALLY slow   is there something wrong04:08
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kcburyshakeri have a fast cable connection04:08
slipaway172neoliminal, your mobo is not giving your mouse power. use another mouse to see if the mouse is having problems or if the ps2 port is dead?04:08
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neoliminalUSB is set to "auto"04:08
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cwilluis legacy on?04:09
neoliminalset to enabled?04:09
slipaway172sounds like defected hardware along the line04:09
neoliminalI can set it to enabled instead04:09
cwilluneoliminal:  set legacy on as well04:09
cwilluit may not be in the same menu04:09
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eternale1shoot i thuoght i was removing the window panel object instead the whole panel died04:10
eternale1weather not window04:10
neoliminalcwillu:  wait.... there's USB Legacy Support and what else?04:10
cwilluusb controller, and legacy support04:10
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eternale1now i can't get the bar at the top to come back04:11
tjrtjiceGakillall gnome-panel04:11
cwillucontroller absolutely needs to be on, usb support may merely need to be on04:11
eternale1i did that04:11
Kyralkcburyshaker, is mozilla updating by anychance?04:11
neoliminalcwillu: ok, trying04:11
tjrtjiceGaright click on a panel and add panel04:12
Kyralsomethings take a LONG time to download for some reason04:12
kcburyshakerkyral   it is on the list   but the servers it is trying to download from are REALLY slow04:12
neoliminalmouse is lit up... (as normal)04:12
cwilluneoliminal:  failing that, try plugging it into another machine, make sure it actually works :)04:12
kcburyshakeri think im doing maybe 3.5 kb's a sec04:12
slipaway172like i said04:12
Kyralkcburyshaker, servers get slow, its one of those Internet things :D04:12
neoliminalI stole the mouse from this machine ;-)04:12
KyralIts not the system's fault04:12
cwilluI love how the brittish say 'meatloaf'04:12
kcburyshakerit is saying for those 27 updates it will take it over 6 hours to download04:12
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slipaway172probably the mobo messed up04:13
neoliminalok, I saw when it turned off the mouse.04:13
neoliminalhold on...04:13
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kcburyshakerand since i have fast cable   im more than just a little tiffed04:13
eternale1add a panel then how to get the whole panel back to the top with all the programs04:13
Kyralkcburyshaker, are you networked at all?04:13
kcburyshakerno  straight plugged in to modem04:13
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Kyralmust be the servers then04:14
kcburyshakeri checked my bandwidth on firefox and im flying according to cnet bandwidth test04:14
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Kyralits the server then04:14
neoliminalmouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."04:14
enohow come firefox just disappears sometimes without even an error mesage?04:15
kcburyshakeris this gonna be fixed soon?  or is it cuz of load?04:15
KyralI don't know, I'm not a Server Admin :P04:15
neoliminalcwillu: Did you see that?04:15
slipaway172eno, i have the same problem04:15
KyralI'm just your Friendly Neighborhood Linux Guru04:15
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eternale1wow i really screwed that up04:15
kcburyshakerslip  you have the same issue?04:15
cwillumister friendly neighborhood linux guru, what do you do when hotplug fails to detect a usb mouse?04:15
kcburyshakerwell this sucks...lol   i JUST now installed ubuntu04:16
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slipaway172ill be browsing i always browsing and pop its gone04:16
Kyralyanno, I knwo I set myself up with that one04:16
kcburyshakerill let it run when im asleep04:16
neoliminalcwillu:  thank you for helping me this far!!! :)04:16
cwilluneoliminal:  I hate it when I can't take it all the way04:16
slipaway172what i wtote made no sence04:16
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KyralTry unplugging, then plugging it back in04:16
eternale1so is there anyway to get the original panel back to the top after being removed ... with like the same menu04:16
neoliminalcwillu:  we can both learn from this then.04:16
cwillubeen there, done that04:16
cwilludpkg reconfigured x, went through bios settings, verified the mouse worked on another machine04:17
cwillumouse lights up, and goes dark at hotplug, and never comes back04:17
slipaway172but i will be browsing something i have looked at for the longest of times and once in awhile it will dissapear04:17
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cwilluand that's about the sum total of what I know how to do04:17
neoliminalunplugging and plugging it back in turns the mouse back on, but .... doesn't move the mouse04:17
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jackhannahey guys04:17
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othernoobwhere can i get a quicktime plugin for firefox and/or opera?04:17
neoliminaland now its off again.04:17
jackhannaget mplayer04:17
jackhannaothernoob one sec04:17
slipaway172but mine happens say less than 3 times a month04:17
Kyralor Totem04:18
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jackhannaothernoob.. this site is your god04:18
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ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines04:18
dbernar1eternale1: you can add the menu.04:18
eternale1im like adding each section of the menu04:19
jackhannaI can't seem to find info on getting dri working on a Rage XL... any clues?04:19
seth_kjackhanna, please see ubotu's remark... don't use ubuntuguide. Use the wiki instead04:19
eternale1but i want them how it was04:19
neoliminalmaybe I just need to find a ps2 mouse04:19
cwillujackhanna... ubuntuguide.org is deprecated04:19
bddebiancwillu: Yes?04:20
cwilluyou have one of those ps2/usb adapters that comes with everymouse these days? :)04:20
Kyralneoliminal, maybe04:20
jackhannareally.. .hmm.. it always helps me04:20
cwilluI pooched my system :(04:20
jackhannaaccept for getting the boot splash working that is04:20
cwilluI need a hug :(04:20
bddebiancwillu: ??04:20
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neoliminalI don't think that I kept it04:20
neoliminallet me look04:20
cwilluflashed the bios using the bios util...04:20
cwilluit doesn't post any more04:20
Kyralcwillu, you know we are guys04:20
bddebiancwillu: Doh :'-(04:20
othernoobthanks jackhamma04:20
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eternale1nevermind dbernar1 iman idiot i found it04:21
eternale1i think04:21
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Big_Oerm hi04:22
dbernar1ya, well, its there, but, I mean, happens.04:22
Big_Ook i need a sound mixer for fluxbox04:22
Big_Osorry to bug you with this04:22
cwilluit was the right bios, the floppy md5's okay04:22
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Big_Oalsamixer isnt working04:22
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jackhannaso what's the deal.. the wiki says my rage is supported using dri.. but it's not enabled in glxinfo04:22
Big_Oand the drivers are all screwed04:23
pmiller9does anyone have experience w/ external 5.25" drive enclosures?  I want to put a nec dvd burner it one... what's a good device that'll work with linux?  usb2 or firewire?04:23
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neoliminalok, I'm lost04:23
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Big_Oyou want me to rephrase that dbernar1 >.>... im pretty sure i can append some refferences to you if you want04:24
CarlKpmiller9 - I hear it works04:24
cwillulooks like its another sleepless night with linux :(04:24
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jackhannaoh usb is great for mice and stuff... but leave the high speed transfers to firewire...04:24
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jackhannathanks dell and you fuckers for humping usb2 all over the place04:25
x_orI've been having some trouble installing packages onto a couple of brand new systems.  It keeps telling me that there is an MD5 mismatch.  I am confused because I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list or anything.04:25
Kyralso can anyone recc a good PCI Firewire card then?04:25
adwaithey ppl........good morning/evening04:25
bddebianHello adwait04:25
kcburyshakerdamn  what is up with this ubuntu update server04:25
kcburyshakeri wish it would speed up04:26
bddebiankcburyshaker: Is it the us mirror?04:26
kcburyshakerhow do i know   this is a fresh install04:26
jackhannaI'm really not finding this wiki as easy to use as the ubuntufaq04:26
adwaitanybody knows how to get dynamic fonts to work on firefox04:26
kcburyshakerless than an hour old04:26
kcburyshakerim brand new04:26
bddebiankcburyshaker: Are you in the US?04:26
IceDC571jackhanna: ubuntufaq??04:26
neoliminalok, the mouse is just not working04:26
neoliminalno idea why04:26
IceDC571yeah i was wondering..04:27
adwaitneoliminal: connected properly? proper drivers loaded?04:27
neoliminalis there a boot option for fixing usb problems?04:27
adwaithey how abt my question? dynamic fonts in firefox? anybody......?04:27
x_orAnyone able to install emacs21 recently?  I get an MD5 error on a brand new 5.04 system.04:27
bddebiankcburyshaker: Then it is probably hitting the US mirror.  I was having problems with it to.  If you have a fast connection, try changing your sources.list to point to uk.archive.ubuntu.com04:27
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kcburyshakerhow do i change it04:28
neoliminalmouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."04:28
bddebiankcburyshaker: Use an editor to modify /etc/apt/sources.list04:28
adwaitneoliminal : yeah?04:29
neoliminalmouse turns dark after "starting hotplug subsystem..."04:29
adwaitooh ok..04:29
Kyralsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:29
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jackhannaI meen.. really guys.. it's quick and easy faq for ubuntu04:29
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ubotuit has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
bddebianI would disuade the useof Ubuntuguide but YMMV.04:30
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jackhannaI like how it's quick and easy to find stuff.. it's just all layed out...04:31
jdrakeIs there any way of installing ubuntu but using the kernel that is 2.6.11 (or greater?). My system hardware requires at least that version due to a bug in the sata that prevents the controller from being detected.04:31
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adwaitjdrake: i am not sure....but is the kernel u want listed in synaptic04:31
jackhannaany advice on DRI with my rage XL.. I can't find info anywhere on it04:32
neoliminalOne last appeal for help with my mouse...04:32
jackhannaand the FAQ says it should be supporting DRI by default04:32
jackhannabut it's not04:32
HrdwrBoBjdrake: not easily04:32
madmavrichey how come im getting md5sum check error when trying to install packages?04:32
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jdrakeadwait, i have no idea because I need to be able to install with that kernel first04:32
ed1tin gaim, is there any option to flash the window when i receive a message like AIM on windows?04:32
neoliminalUSB mouse fails after "starting hotplug subsystem"04:32
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HrdwrBoBed1t: yes04:32
HrdwrBoBin the plugins04:33
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ed1tHrdwrBoB,  where do i get that plugin?04:33
epohsis it possible to change the "uid" on an ext3 mountpoint?04:33
adwaitjdrake: aah......so u can boot at al?04:33
HrdwrBoBed1t: preferences-> plugins04:33
jackhannaneoliminal, did you disable PNP and legisy USB support in your bios?04:33
HrdwrBoBed1t: tick 'Message Notification'04:33
adwaitepohs: i guess...../etc/fstab04:33
madmavricdid ubuntu change something so you cant download packages from other sources than theirs? md5 checksum errors all the time now?04:33
epohsadwait: what options would i use?04:34
nickrudmadmavric you can still use those debs, they are simply not signed.04:34
neoliminalWhat is PNP?04:34
adwaitepohs: at the end, in the options coloumn, uid = <uidnumeber NOT username>04:34
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bddebianPlug and Pray?04:34
jackhannaplug and play04:34
madmavricwell synaptic or apt=get wont let me install them04:34
neoliminalI didn't disable that.04:34
adwaitlol bddebian04:34
HrdwrBoBlegacy not legisy :)04:34
jackhannaor.. pray as db noted04:34
ed1tthx HrdwrBoB04:34
neoliminalI did legacy support04:34
HrdwrBoBed1t: np04:34
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neoliminalI'll try disable pnp04:34
jdrakeadwait, i know the last release (hoary?) did not work04:34
bimberimadmavric: Are you using the US repositories?04:35
jackhannadisable legacy!04:35
enodoes anyone know anything about java?  what is exiting with error (1)?04:35
madmavrici forget what im using, but it used to work fine04:35
madmavriclet me look04:35
epohsadwait, could i do that outside of fstab with mount -o uid=<uidnumber> ? cause it doesn't seem to be working04:35
bimberimadmavric: Apparently there is an issue with the us mirrors atm04:35
adwaitjdrake: k....so u dont hv ubuntu installed? hmm......well......maybe u could try the devlopment release breezy.not sure which kernel it uses04:35
enoacutally I am sure there is a java channel04:35
jackhannathis may help with that firewire DVD question04:36
enoso don't bother.  thanks for your help with the thing before folks04:36
madmavricim using backports for one04:36
adwaitepohs: u dont want to permananntly change the uid?04:36
madmavricdeb us archives04:36
adwait!kernel breezy04:36
ubotuadwait: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:36
jdrakeadwait, distrowatch indicates that there is a snapshot that uses .1204:36
madmavricso you think its the us deb sources are bad?04:36
bddebianThere was a problem.  Dunno if it has been fixed04:37
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epohsadwait: no, actually i am mounting an already existing directory into a different location using "--bind"04:37
madmavricwell i keep getting md5 checksum errors04:37
bimberimadmavric: No. But there has been some sort of problem recently04:37
epohsadwait: but, i am only wanting to mount it temporarily.. then i want to umount it04:37
madmavrictheir data base get corrupted?04:37
madmavricbasically i cant install shit now, bummer04:38
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adwaitepohs: right...well i guess mount -o uid=.. shouuld be possible.not sure though04:38
bddebianmadmavric: Do you have a high-speed connection?04:38
bimberimadmavric: If entries in your sources.list have us.archive.ubuntu.com then try removing the "us."04:39
adwaitmadmavric: is the DNS srver ok? mine wasnt working a few days ago? whn u apt-get install......does it show the correct ip addresS?04:39
bddebianepohs: Why are you doing that?04:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbddebian YOU ROCK MAN! ^_^04:39
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bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Bah, thx man :-)04:39
madmavriclet me check that04:39
epohsadwait: could i use "-o uid" in conjunction with "gid", or would that screw something up?04:39
kitchencan I take the lazy way out and report an md5sum error on hoary/main libgnet2.0-0 2.0.4-1 here rather than looking for a proper buzilla/mantis/whatever interface?04:40
bddebianmadmavric: Or you can force it to use uk.archive.ubuntu.com and see if you get the same results04:40
madmavricits saying 11 resources temporarily unavailable here04:40
adwaiti guess -o means a option list......so more than one option shouldnt be a problem04:40
bddebianepohs: What are you trying to do?04:40
airmikeyis Xdefaults in ubuntu or do i need to create file04:40
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ablyssunder xfce4 certain application will close but when i run gnome system monitor the processes are still there.  Seems certain ones stick more than others like Nautilus, Xmms.  Any thoughts on this?04:41
madmavriclibgnet is the one thats giving me problems atm04:41
epohsbddebian: well, i have a custom script that activates anonymous ftp, and mounts a directory that contains my MP3s into the "ftp" directory, but that directory is owned by my local user account...... this may be a totally dumbass way to do it. I'm open to suggestions04:41
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bimberimadmavric: don't know about that repo04:41
kitchenmadmavric, I'm getting md5sum errors on that here too04:41
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kitchenfrom us.archive04:42
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tom1question - how can i get the install CD to boot on an ATAPI cd drive?04:42
bddebianepohs: Do you just want the anonymous ftp to read or are they uploading too?04:42
neoliminalit's not working04:42
epohsbddebian: I would like them to only read04:43
nickrudairmikey there are existing x defaults under /etc/X11/Xresources; you can copy parts or all of those to ~/.Xdefaults and modify to suit04:43
bddebiantom1: Should "just work"tm  but it depends on your BIOS and the age of your machine04:43
madmavricmust be a problem on their end, ill try in a day or two04:43
bddebianepohs: What is the current rights on that folder?04:43
bddebianmadmavric: You got the same thing with the uk repo?04:43
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madmavricim just using us and backports here04:43
tom1bddebian: i'm not sure if the problem is with the actual ATAPI drive being that, but it says "bootlinux: faild to locate CD-ROM drive: boot failed"04:43
epohsbddebian: drwsr-xr-x04:44
bddebianepohs: That should be fine.  Just create a symbolic link to that directory04:44
ed1tHrdwrBoB, is there any plugin where i can see the notification when someone signs on or off?04:44
ed1tin gaim04:44
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HrdwrBoBed1t: yes04:44
madmavricthought maybe the folks at ubuntu were putting a stop to people installing packages they didnt approve of or something04:44
bimberimadmavric: Give the uk repos a try - you might get it going now04:44
epohsbddebian: proftpd doesn't seem to like symlinks04:44
HrdwrBoBed1t: same thing, there's a notification plugin04:45
bddebiantom1: Are there any message before that?04:45
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bddebianepohs: Ah04:45
bimberimadmavric: No way.  That is _not_ freedom.04:45
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tom1bddebian: loading spec packet failed.....04:45
fr500i have 4 200gb hdds, is there a way for them to act likone big one?04:45
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adwaitanybody for my dynamic fonts problem?04:45
vinuxhey guys what's the command to configure my xorg again?04:45
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madmavricbim ok, ill just try again tommorrow, dont feal like editing apt source list atm04:45
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bddebianfr500: lvm04:45
airmikeynickrud: when i type ~/.Xdefaults     nothin comes up04:45
seth_kvinux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:45
bimberifr500: lvm (linux volume management)04:45
bimberimadmavric: k04:46
nickrudairmikey you create it, I should have been more clear, sorry :)04:46
airmikeyeror ...couldnt find04:46
seth_kadwait: it would be better if you were more specific04:46
adwaitlvm= LOGICAL volume Management04:46
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airmikeyok  cool04:46
ed1tHrdwrBoB, it gives an option for notification on going or returning from away...not for sign in/off04:46
bimberiadwait: oops - thanks04:46
adwaitseth_k: how do i get dynamic fonts to work with firefox04:46
jugarnathahey y'all. How do I get totem to play .wmv's?04:46
bddebianairmikey: You copied that file?  ~ is just a link to your /home/user dir04:46
vinuxseth_k, thanks04:46
HrdwrBoBed1t: whatever's there is there04:46
seth_kadwait: dynamic fonts? :/ call me slow, but I've never heard of such a thing04:47
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bddebiantom1: Any errors about /dev/hdb or some such?04:47
ed1tHrdwrBoB,  is there any other AIM client?04:47
tom1bddebian: nope04:47
madmavrici just wanted to grab some mp3's off of newsgroups quick to test some aps here , ill get em off my windoz machine04:47
HrdwrBoBed1t: not that's any good04:47
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adwaitseth_k: umm...well u know, if a website uses a special u need not download it, it is embedded in the web page itself04:47
epohsbddebian: do you think this isn't going to work the way i have it invisioned?04:47
steven_i have a red hat cd and an ubuntu cd04:47
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seth_kadwait: ah ha, got you now04:47
steven_can some one igve me the pros and cons of each04:47
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adwaitseth_k: its called embedded fonts as well i guess.........check www.loksatta.com04:47
steven_id appreciate it04:47
airmikeybddebian: didnt do anything yet04:47
GNULinuxGeekCan anyone tell me how to get icons back on the KDE panel such as volume control, Korganizer?  After a recent Synaptic session, they were gone.04:47
bddebianepohs: It might, just seems superfluous :-)04:47
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seth_kadwait: most implementations of embedded fonts are internet-explorer-specific04:48
fr500bddebian, sorry just had a "blue screen of death"04:48
jackhannason of a bitch.. broken md5 error... sheesh... what gives with synaptic04:48
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adwaitseth_k :(04:48
epohsbddebian: i understand, thanks. :)04:48
fr500bddebian, is it hard to configure?04:48
jugarnathahey y'all. How do I get totem to play .wmv's? Do I need some more codecs?04:48
x_orAnyone know what repository I should add to install xMule?04:48
seth_kjackhanna: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the us.archive... to just archive04:48
bimberisteven_: You're asking in #ubuntu?04:48
adwaitseth_k: ok well then any idea if how i install a ttf font?04:48
madmavricjack im having the same problems apparently the us debian mirrors are having problems04:48
steven_i asked in #rhel04:48
seth_kjugarnatha: add te backports repositories and then apt-get install w32codecs04:48
steven_and no one knew wtf redhat was04:48
bddebianairmikey: fr500 Never used it.  I prefer hardware RAID :-)04:48
steven_i mean "ubuntu" was04:49
seth_kadwait: see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/31004:49
cwillu= (04:49
jackhannaseth_k, thanks.. I wasn't paying attention when it was asked before because I haven't had this problem before04:49
nickrudx_or you need to enable universe04:49
seth_kjackhanna: no worries04:49
fr500bddebian, ok04:49
steven_can some one tell me what makes ubuntu much better04:49
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Kyralsteven_, us :D04:49
fr500steven_, better than?04:49
seth_ksteven_: Apt to manage packages, the excellent support, and the quick release cycles04:50
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seth_ksteven_: it's Debian with more updates04:50
nickrudsteven_ off hand, I'd say the quality of the free support.04:50
jackhannadoes anyone know what's up with the us.archive?04:50
steven_yeah this support rocks you guys do a good job04:50
adwaitseth_k: got stuck on the first line itself.......type font:// in nautilius window....where? theres no place to type04:50
bimberisteven_: ... expecially in #ubuntu ;)04:50
steven_but the thing is i dont know if its easier for me to use04:50
steven_or not04:50
steven_i have red hat right now04:50
bddebiansteven_: Well it isn't better than sex if that is what you mean ;-)04:50
steven_and its a bitch i have to install so much04:50
bddebianjackhanna: Yes, it appears to be broken04:51
jugarnathaseth_k: what are backports, if you don't mind my asking. I have w32codecs installed, I believe.04:51
steven_lol i didnt think it was04:51
seth_kjugarnatha: see http://backports.ubuntuforums.org04:51
fr500steven_, it's easier than red hat04:51
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/04:51
madmavricwhen ubuntu gets broken for a user, but still works in root, can you just delte that users account and create a new one, and everything will work again?04:51
jugarnathaseth_k: thanks. I will.04:51
steven_i ordered the cds like 3 months ago04:52
nickrudmadmavric maybe, depending on the problems. Create a new user without deleting the old, and test.04:52
steven_and i got them in today04:52
adwaitmadmavric: sure...if the user messed up something real bad.......04:52
bddebiansteven_: So get installing! ;-)04:52
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madmavricok thanks04:52
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steven_i want too04:52
fr500madmavric, if it's your only sudoer, i think u may need to add one more sudoer or enable the root account04:53
madmavricthats the point behind not using root i assume, is to keep the core os working properly04:53
nickrudmadmavric to give the new user sudo rights, as root adduser <new user> admin04:53
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bimberisteven_: go on - you know you want to04:53
madmavricnick thanks04:53
steven_loll Linux peer pressure04:53
bimberisteven_: Those people on the CD cover look so happy :)04:53
steven_LOLLL THEY DOOO04:54
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steven_bimberi one thing i want to do that redhat cant do is04:54
airmikeynickrud: how do i create it or where do i go04:54
steven_i want to watch wmv's on firefox04:54
ChipmunkNewbie question: I am running the Live CD. Managed to mount my NTFS hard drive and I can see the contents. But I need to say sudo each time. How do I browse the filesystem using th GUI tools?04:54
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jedixdoes anyone know where I can get an nvtv?04:54
madmavricwell ive got root login setup on my ubuntu machine, its a lot easier to edit files that way04:54
steven_and i want better media support04:54
nickrudairmikey touch ~/.Xdefaults will create the file, with nothing in it.04:54
adwaitChopmunk: in the fstab in the options end pur uid=1000 guid=1000 (assuming ur the first user created04:55
cwilluoh well... overnighting a new bios chip apparently04:55
Chipmunkadwait: I havent installed it yet, just trying using the Live CD.04:55
bddebiancwillu: phew :-)04:55
airmikeynickrud : type that in a terminal04:55
Chipmunkcan I supply the uid to mount?04:55
bimberisteven_: media support not my area.  I hear that mplayer + firefox makes a good combo04:55
nickrudairmikey yes04:55
airmikeyright on04:55
cwilluthere were updates, but I still don't know whether that fixes anything, or just gets me back to square one :)04:56
BluesRockerHi, can somebody help mi with modem, please?04:56
madmavrici like xine or vlc myself04:56
adwaitChipmunk: i think so.........mount /dev/hdX blah blah -o uid=100004:56
steven_where can i find out abou tthat04:56
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bddebiansteven_: Find out about what?04:56
Chipmunkadwait: Okay, let me trry that. Thanks.04:56
steven_If i can watch wmv's04:56
bddebianBluesRocker: Just ask, we'll try04:56
steven_on like fire fox04:56
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steven_lets say i go to launch.com to watch music videos04:56
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bddebiansteven_: Should be able to, though you might need w32codecs or some such04:57
BluesRockermodem is installed, and hears phone signal, but dont dial number04:57
steven_will they be easy to install on ubuntu04:57
speelhey in all honesty what programing is the easyest to learn?04:57
bddebiansteven_: Of course :-)04:57
adwaitsteven_: sure......just install a firefox plugin called media connector04:57
madmavricsteven if you want some good tips for installing things in ubuntu, try this link www.ubuntuguide.org04:57
nickrudsteven_ I use mozilla-mplayer to watch on line video (when I'm not on dialup :)04:58
steven_I WANT UBUNTU04:58
adwaitspeel: depends on wht u wanna do really....because once u learn any language learning another is just a matter of learing a new syntax04:58
Chipmunkadwait: Great, that worked, thanks! Now that I know it can read my hard drive, I think I'll install Ubunto dual-boot04:58
steven_but heres the thing04:58
bddebianBluesRocker: Dial?? WTF is that?? :-)04:58
steven_i used to have ubuntu04:58
steven_but i didnt know how to install things04:58
steven_using repos and apts04:58
steven_sounds so confusing04:58
BluesRockerits dial up modem :)04:58
steven_maybe i didnt learn how to do it04:58
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ubotuI heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:58
madmavricsteven did you see that link i posted?04:58
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:58
bddebiansteven_: So use synaptic or aptitude04:58
adwaitChipmunk: welcome! now ur an ubuntite/ubuntuer/...04:58
tiglionabbitsteven_: read those, then you will04:58
nickrudsteven_ a repository is a web address that contains packages you can download04:58
steven_yes i did04:59
steven_oh ok04:59
steven_and whats an apt04:59
madmavricok wiki and ubuntuguide are both very helpful04:59
nickrudsteven_ apt is heaven :)04:59
madmavricapt-get is command line version of synaptic04:59
adwaitsteven_: apt is a software to download and install apps on ubuntu04:59
ubotuapt is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/04:59
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steven_oh ok04:59
bddebiansteven_: apt is a front-end for dpkg to install packages04:59
steven_i see04:59
Chipmunkadwait: or Ubuntee, or just a Ubunt :)04:59
Chipmunkthanks again. later...04:59
adwaitChipmunk: hehe.....yeah we were just discussing tht the other day :)05:00
steven_ok i think ubuntu05:00
madmavricread those guides steven, theyre easy to follow05:00
steven_is looking good05:00
nickrudsteven_ apt is a library, used by synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, and others, that resolves dependencies for you.05:00
speeladwait, well i dont know really i just want to learn a lang then dive into diffrent programs and such05:00
jackhannaremoving us. really messed up synaptic05:01
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adwaitspeel: hmm......well i would say start of with c++......once u get ur class concepts strong java and other language should not be a problem.05:01
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adwaitbesides c++ is the most used language (i think.......)05:01
PlutoPrimeis there some method to check / verify the contents of a CD/DVD after they are burnt?05:01
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bimberijackhanna: you'll need to reload05:01
PlutoPrimeit seems like neither Graveman/GnomeBaker support "verify"05:01
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speelhmm ok ty il check it out05:01
steven_and you guys say i can have kde on ubuntu right05:01
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nickrudPlutoPrime you can md5sum a mounted iso (for example, md5sum /dev/hdc)05:02
adwaitsteven_: if u like that inferior desktop ;)05:02
jackhannathanks bimberi05:02
bddebianspeel: C is probably the most "fundamental" language.  Very little syntax and very powerful.  But, learning all the associated things with C can get VERY complex05:02
madmavricya its called kubuntu, but its somewhat more buggy than ubuntu05:02
bimberisteven_: yep - it's called kubuntu05:02
adwaitsteven_: try the KDA version of ubuntu....kubuntu05:02
bimberijackhanna: yw05:02
bddebiansteven_: That would be kubuntu05:02
PlutoPrimenickrud, what it's a backup DVD and from files on the harddisk05:02
steven_ohh and is that better05:02
steven_how do i get it05:02
jackhannaI'm still getting no such dir from 4 of my repositories05:02
madmavrickubuntu is buggy05:02
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steven_are all of you using ubuntu05:02
jackhannaall of them are archive.ubuntu.com05:02
PlutoPrimenickrud, I'm mainly worried about making sure my backups are all valid files and a good burn05:02
adwaitsteven_: download fromnet05:02
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madmavricive tried kubuntu, its not as good05:03
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bimberisteven_: http://kubuntu.org05:03
adwait*frm the net05:03
jackhannastephan.. it's on of the distros I'm playing with05:03
nickrudPlutoPrime well, at one time, my backup was create an iso, md5sum it, write the disk, md5sum that, and compare05:03
speelwell with C it looks like you have to do alot in order to get somthing simple done05:03
jackhannaI still like Suse better I think05:03
madmavrici use either ubuntu or xandros here05:03
bddebianXandros???  Is that still even being produced? :-)05:03
madmavricsuse has dependency issues all the time05:03
adwaitspeel: if u want a GUI yes......but its powerful for backbone programming05:03
bimberisteven_: (I use ubuntu though - haven't tried kubuntu)05:03
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ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.  Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org05:03
steven_oh ok05:03
madmavricbddebian yep05:03
jackhannamadmavric, I've never had a prob05:03
fr500steven_, compared to ubuntu, somethings need polishing05:04
jackhannaand I love yast05:04
fr500steven_, you have a sudoers issue on install i think05:04
bddebianspeel: If you REALLY want to get into it, learn assembler first and build from there :-)05:04
madmavricxandros works extremely well straight outta the box, but its a little bit slower than ubuntu05:04
steven_oh really05:04
speelah assembly is like down and dirty Lol05:04
JDahlisn't there a package called w32codecs? I can't find it with apt-cache search, and I think I enabled all repositories looking for it05:04
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jackhannamadmavric, so does suse and it's free05:04
madmavricso is xandros05:05
bddebianJDahl: I think it may only be availabe from backports?05:05
madmavricopen circulation edition05:05
fr500jackhanna, my ubuntu works wonderful out of the box05:05
jackhannadon't they charge for the latest05:05
bddebianYou mean Novell?05:05
adwaitspeel: sure......u can even use assembly commands in c05:05
madmavricthey have a open circ editon of their latest distro05:05
madmavricit doesnt have firefox,05:06
jackhannafr500, all major distos do... but yast has a great feel to it and makes configing complicated stuff easy with a gui05:06
madmavricor a good cd burning ap05:06
madmavricother than that its the same05:06
bddebianyast better than apt* ??  I think not. :-)05:06
madmavricand you can install just about anything thru xandros networks, which is their version of synaptic05:06
jackhannabddebian, ?05:06
jackhannayast does much more than just getting packages..05:06
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jugarnathaseth_k: hmm. still no wmv files will play. The apt-get reported that I had the latest codecs05:07
jackhannait configs hardware and services05:07
bddebianjackhanna: Yeah, I know. :-)05:07
madmavrici really cant stand suse, sorry jack05:07
madmavricgive me a good debian distro any day of the week05:07
jackhannaok.. I'm just saying..for a linux noob.. suse is a nice choice05:07
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dicrapiohow can i disable the blank screen from going off after being idle?05:08
madmavricin fact one day when my chipset gets supported under debian, ill install pure debian my way05:08
nickrudjugarnatha http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html is a good test site for web media. Not all wmvs are equal05:08
JDahlbddebian, ok.. I was reading a HOWTO on streaming in Firefox, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727. It's supposed to be for Hoary, but maybe the guide is wrong about w32codecs05:08
jackhannayou can argue geek linix all day long... and both people will be correct.. I just find Suse easier for new users to get into05:08
madmavricim still a noob05:08
madmavricprobably always will be, but debian just seems to have more online support than any other distro ive tried05:09
bimberidicrapio: Systems -> Preferneces -> Screen Saver ?05:09
jackhannainstalling mplayer in suse is as easy as using adding packman in yast and using the gui to check mplayer.. it installs everything you need05:09
jackhannawith a click05:09
bddebianJDahl: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?05:09
JDahlbddebian, yes05:09
nickrudI've been using debian for almost 5 years, but, I'll be networking some computers soon and I guarantee I'll have some truly noob questions soon :)05:09
dicrapiohmm, forgot im ubuntu, im on kubuntu05:10
dicrapiois not a screensaver05:10
dicrapioi think is xorg's default blank screen05:10
rebortanybody help me here...05:10
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adwaitrebort: with wht?05:10
rebortstartx, xinit /usr/bin/whatever, sudo gdm05:10
madmavricill probalby me putting a tv card in here eventually, and use tvtime05:10
rebortall just do nothing05:11
rebortthere is no X error log written05:11
rebortthe first two just fail with "server error" and nothign else, to tty or to /var/log05:11
bimberidicrapio: not sure sorry.  Tried #kubuntu?05:11
adwaitrebortt: when u start the pc.......do u go to the command prompt?05:11
PlutoPrimeI have to say my experience with both graveman and gnomebaker is horrible... they seem like half hearted attempts that are abandoned already\05:11
madmavrictime to jet, later all05:11
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PlutoPrimeI just burnt a dvd with graveman and it took it 25 minutes and wasting and entire dvd to tell me "Sorry files couldn't fit"05:12
PlutoPrimeI mean... that's really sad05:12
PlutoPrimewhy don't the projects merge and make something half as decent and Nero?05:12
nickrudPlutoPrime I've also had problems with those, I installed k3b for things I can't do on the command line or in nautilus05:13
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rebort    whoa it is hard to keep track of irc on centericq05:13
Frank_dotquick question: is the k7 kernel the best one for Ubuntu32 on amd64?05:13
PlutoPrimenickrud, I think I'm going to buy Nero for linux05:13
PlutoPrimeI heard it actually works as advertised05:13
nickrudback, satan!05:13
HrdwrBoBFrank_dot: yes05:13
IceDC571lol nero for linux?05:14
Frank_dotis it better than k3b? (Nero)05:14
PlutoPrimeIceDC571, yup05:14
rebortno its not better than k3b05:14
rebortin my opinion having USED it05:14
Frank_dotHrdwrBoB: thanks05:14
IceDC571i say the terminal is the best way to burn stuff in05:14
rebortbut it is better than graveman/gnomebaker05:14
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PlutoPrimeIceDC571, I live in 21st century thank you :)05:14
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PlutoPrimeI don't want to remember commands05:14
nickrudI use the terminal for quickies, but, remembering commands :)05:14
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rebortterminal is good for some things, not good for otehrs05:15
IceDC571cdrdao isnt that hard05:15
rebortbut thats all opinion05:15
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bddebianterminals ROCK05:15
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PlutoPrimeand you know... this comes from someone who lived with minimalist DEs and distros such as gentoo05:15
IceDC571bddebian :)05:15
dave123hi there i have a basic question regarding modules, how come when i do lsmod i see so many modules loaded, but when i do "cat /etc/modules" it shows only like 3 modules?05:15
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nickrudno, not hard, but if you don't use it regularly, you have to keep looking up options.05:15
PlutoPrimethere came a point where I said, enough is enough.. I wanna get work done on my computer05:15
jsgotangcoif k3b doesn't fit to your liking, then there is no gui option that is better for you05:15
IceDC571i was a complete linux noob, k3b didnt work for me so i just used the terminal and i learned it in like a minute05:16
ketikodave123: Some of the modules are loaded as dependencies of those modules05:16
rebortdave123: i believe /etc/modules is just a place to specify modules that arent otherwise being loaded05:16
ketikodave123: and some are loaded by hotplug05:16
rebortor ketiko knows a lot more than i do05:16
nickrudwell, the terminal does rock ;)05:16
kcburyshakerdo the powers that be know of the slowdown on that ubuntu update server?05:16
ketikodave123: for instance, if it detects a USB device05:16
PlutoPrimeit does rock :)05:16
PlutoPrimeas long as there are awesome guis avaialable too05:16
dicrapiowhere can i place a command to be executed when i log into X or kde?05:17
dave123ok i just did something stupid i put something that was shown in lsmod in my .etc.modiules, i better go take it off now before i screw something up :)05:17
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nickruddicrapio well, for gnome, you can use .gnomerc :)05:17
adwaitdicrapio: if u want to run an app at startup....u could login, run the app then in the log out menu select to save the config or whtever and logout05:18
rebortor gnome session manager...05:18
Frank_dotdoes anyone know how to switch the kde konqueror behaviour to "Windows style"   (double click instead of single click to open) I can't find it05:18
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dicrapionah, i need to place 'xset s off' somewhere so the Xserver doesnt enable the screen to go blank afte a while05:19
reborti dont use kde, but i think you want the startup wizard05:19
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Frank_dotrebort: I'll try to find it05:19
bddebiandicrapio: Maybe you can put it in a .Xsession file?05:20
nickruddicrapio there's bound to be an option kdecontrol somewhere haveing to do with screensavers; otherwise, remove option DPMS from xorg.conf05:20
adwaitumm....im out ppl bbye05:20
rebortFrank_dot: use the find dialog :P05:20
fr500has anyone used evms?05:20
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dicrapioill try that05:21
kcburyshakeris anyone else having issues with the update server?05:21
bddebiankcburyshaker: Yes, the US mirror has problems.  Did you ever try the UK mirror?05:22
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JDahlwhat does "apt-cache search w32codecs" tell you guys? I can't find it, but there's a gazillion webpages refering to it for Hoary05:22
kcburyshakerno   im brand new to ubuntu05:22
PlutoPrimeJDahl, do you have backports repositories added?05:23
kcburyshakeri dont know where to start05:23
bddebiankcburyshaker: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"05:23
KyralJDahl, add the Backports to your repos05:23
cwilluit keeps getting better and better05:23
nickrudJDahl I won't find it that way, since I don't have the ubuntu backports enabled05:23
ubotuKyral: I don't know05:23
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bddebiankcburyshaker: Change the archive.ubuntu.com to uk.archive.ubuntu.com05:23
cwilluasus tech support sent me an email of isntructions to get my bios chip05:23
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ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines05:23
JDahlPlutoPrime, nope... but why is it in backports?05:23
cwilluas it turns out, I can no longer log into my email, from anywhere05:23
Ne0-AwHi everyone, how do I stop mysql and start it again so I can make a change to my.cnf05:24
cwilluof course, by now this has absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu, or linux even...05:24
nickrudoh, ubotu IS smart05:24
PlutoPrimeadditional unoffical updates for ubuntu after release, it includes things such as w32codecs05:24
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kcburyshakerok bddebian  what next05:24
cwilluand so, I call the tech support line for my email provider05:24
cwillupress 1-2-3-1-1-2-105:24
bddebiankcburyshaker: Save the file and re-run synaptic or apt-get05:24
PlutoPrimeJDahl, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org05:25
bddebiankcburyshaker: Do an update first of course05:25
bimberiNe0-Aw: (this is a guess) "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop"05:25
inc595sup channel05:25
cwillutell the guy the email address.  "um, okay, but I'm not sure exactly why you're calling us, we don't have anything to do with that email domain"05:25
bddebianNe0-Aw: Aye, "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart"05:25
cwilluI can't win :(05:25
bddebiancwillu: :-(05:25
kcburyshakerbd debian  may i pvt you?05:25
Ne0-Awthank you05:25
bimberibddebian: tks05:25
JDahlPlutoPrime, thanks05:25
Ne0-Awbimberi and bddebian05:26
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bddebiankcburyshaker: Sure05:26
Tsunamii`Animedoes Ubuntu have any other default browsers?05:26
Tsunamii`Animecan't seem to download this file05:26
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bimberiNe0-Aw: yw05:26
Ne0-Awso /etc/init.d keeps track of all things that start up automatically05:26
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Ne0-Awmysql apache etc ?05:26
bddebianNe0-Aw: Yes05:26
Ne0-Awfirst day trying to setup the whole LAMP business05:26
fr500i just wanna know if the ubuntu stock kernel is EVMS ready05:26
nickrudTsunamii I tend to use galeon and epiphany as my browsers05:26
kUserfr500: yes05:27
Tsunamiiare they default, or do they require download?05:27
nickrudTsunamii download only05:27
Tsunamiiah ok, dw :P05:27
PlutoPrimegnomebaker acutally warned me the files are too big to fit on the dvd!05:27
fr500kUser, thx, have you used it?05:27
Ne0-Awhow can I edit my.cnf while in terminal? nano ?05:28
PlutoPrimegnomebaker: 1 , graveman: 005:28
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kUserfr500: a machine at home uses it05:28
nickrudNe0-Aw nano works nicely05:28
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bddebianNe0-Aw: nano, vi, emacs, joe, vim, you name it.. ;-P05:29
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BeatYOuwhat do you guys suggest for teminal text editing05:29
nickrudheh, I bit off a finger tip so I wouldn't type them all05:29
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bddebianBeatYOu: I like nano but I get abused for it. :-)05:30
bddebiannickrud: :-)05:30
BeatYOui burnted my finger with firecrackers some days ago so typing is difficult also hah05:30
odie5533My grub loader is failing and I can't edit menu.lst on knoppix. any ideas?05:30
nickrudBeatYOu nano for quickies, vim for bigger stuff05:30
bddebianBeatYOu: If you want to become a true zealot, you MUST learn emacs.. ;-P05:30
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bddebianodie5533: What is failing?05:30
odie5533bddebian, grub loading >_<05:31
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nickrudlol, I will bite another05:31
BeatYOubddebian got to learn how to delete a file in terminal before that i suppose ;] 05:31
odie5533I made a bad menu.lst I believe05:31
odie5533and I need to edit it from knoppix05:31
bddebianodie5533: What is the error/etc?05:31
bddebiannickrud: rofl05:31
odie5533error 25 I think I can't remember05:31
odie5533I need to edit the file menu.lst05:31
odie5533I have my root password05:32
odie5533but I dont know where to enter it to gain access05:32
inc595odie5533, what r u talking about05:32
odie5533editing a file outside of ubuntu05:32
odie5533without using05:32
bddebianodie5533: Did you mount your drive under knoppix?05:32
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inc595just use vi odie553305:33
odie5533it says I dont have permission05:33
inc595you su?05:33
inc595sudo su05:33
bddebiandamn, beat me to it.. :-)05:33
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IIIEarsodie - interested in the solution. - have had the same difficulty.05:33
freddy_coca break. brb05:34
odie5533how do I save and quit in vi?05:34
^thehatsrule^use :x05:34
^thehatsrule^or wq05:34
cwilluwho's trying to convince people to use emacs or vi?05:34
^thehatsrule^same thing05:34
inc595or x05:34
odie5533readonly set05:34
BeatYOuhaha editing this in nano and read the help, but how do i save !?05:34
cwillubecause they should be shot :p05:34
odie5533! to override?05:34
freddy_not cocaine05:34
ubotuodie5533: I don't know, could you explain it?05:34
nickrudnot me, I recommend nano05:34
bimberiodie5533: yes05:34
bddebianDoesn't knoppix have nano?05:35
ubotuIIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:35
odie5533shell returned 12705:35
bddebianBeatYOu: ctrl-x05:35
inc595if it's read only sound like you don't have perms over it05:35
odie5533how do I force save then?05:35
Tsunamiistupid file won't download05:35
ubotuI heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:35
BeatYOuoh that exits/saves05:35
inc595odie5533, are your super user?05:35
odie5533on knoppix05:36
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odie5533not ubuntu05:36
odie5533I cant get into ubuntu05:36
odie5533because my grub wont load05:36
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BeatYOuanyone have expierience with allowing remote connections with MySQL05:36
BeatYOuaccross lan05:36
bimberiodie5533: I think knoppix mounts readonly by default and that you can right-click on icons to mount writeable05:36
odie5533it doesnt05:36
doug_I vote for " :wq ".05:36
bddebianBeatYOu: Only using some Windows admin tools :-)05:37
inc595if you mounted the file system right you should be able to edit files05:37
nameless1is it possible to overwrite directorys when moving files, beucase i want to do that.05:37
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odie5533/boot/ normally requires a password05:37
freddy_thats it..i am buying cedega05:37
odie5533my root password05:37
odie5533but knoppix isnt asking for it05:37
IIIEarsodie - knoppix gave permission errors and denied editing the menu.lst file?05:37
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BeatYOubddebian im running MySQL Administrator on my windows machine now trying to remotely connect05:37
odie5533nano is great!05:37
doug_How do I set a superuser password in ubunto?05:37
bddebianBeatYOu: Try SQybot I think its called.  It is awesome05:38
Tsunamiisudo root passwd <> ?05:38
odie5533I am on knoppix05:38
odie5533>_< >_<05:38
nameless1 is it possible to overwrite directorys when moving files, beucase i want to do that.05:38
Tsunamiiwhat's that?05:38
BeatYOubddebian google retruns one japanese page :[05:38
nickrudbddebian I have saved my only box several times with nano, hugs should really go to AUTHORS05:38
bimberidoug_: You shouldn't need to.  "sudo" should fill your needs05:38
bddebiannameless1: Yes?05:39
inc595you try the ubuntu live cd hehe05:39
bddebiannickrud: Aye05:39
nameless1bddebian: yes, how05:39
IceDC571nameless1: mv -rf05:39
bddebianI thought it would overwrite unless you told it not to?05:40
uboturob^: I give up, what is it?05:41
nameless1nope not with linux05:41
BeatYOuhmm phpmyadmin i guess05:41
uboturob^: Wish i knew05:41
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:41
bimberinp :)05:41
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bassinboywhat is ubuntu's firewall?05:42
bassinboymy torrents wont work05:42
Tsunamiithere's none05:42
bddebianBeatYOu: Hang no05:42
IceDC571bassinboy: iptables05:42
bddebianBeatYOu: Err on..05:42
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BeatYOuwhat haha05:42
IceDC571bassinboy: try downloading a GUI for it like firestarter05:42
bassinboyIceDC571: I want anything and everything disabled05:42
BeatYOui can edit user tables easily with phpmyadmin and put my ip in methinks, at least thats what I did on a windows box05:43
nickrudbassinboy ubuntu's security policy is that no service provided by main listens outside the box, so no firewall is installed05:43
nickrudbassinboy but, that's not your issue, sorry :)05:43
IIIEarsnickrud - does it drop unsolicited packets without a firewall installed?05:44
TsunamiiWOW! My whole system is only using 130 megs of ram!05:44
Tsunamiithat's amazing :D05:44
bddebianBeatYOu: Sorry it's SQLyog05:44
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IceDC571Tsunamii: whats your wm?05:45
inc595Tsunamii, only 88MB here05:45
nickrudIIIEars I think when I ran it by grc.com, it was reject05:45
Tsunamiiwm ?05:45
Tsunamiiinc595, cheater :P05:45
IceDC571windows manager05:45
kUser(window manager)05:45
Daveymines using 382MB but I'm running Zend Studio (Java based PHP IDE)05:45
bddebiantsume: Window Manager05:45
IIIEarsUbuntu is great! - without windows "life support" apps running in the background ubuntu runs a lot faster too.05:45
Tsunamiiwindows manager for what? D:!05:45
BeatYOubddebian this still requires me to connect to the MySQL server (on ubuntu) right ?05:45
bddebianDamn tab completion05:45
bddebianBeatYOu: Of course :-)05:45
IceDC571Tsunamii: i'll take it as gnome05:45
Tsunamiioh umm, how do i find that out? :P05:45
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Tsunamiiit's gnome05:45
BeatYOuBut if i can't connect remotely this doens't do me any good ;] 05:45
BeatYOubut will certinaly keep it in mind after i can connect05:46
bddebianBeatYOu: It will connect you05:46
inc595gnome here too but i also got fluxbox05:46
bddebianIt has like a login dialog05:46
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BeatYOuok will try05:46
bddebianDamn my feet stink05:46
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Tsunamiiwhat's the difference with other windows manager?05:46
doug_Gosh, I've used ' sudo '.  How do you use it?  (to run Updates, for example).05:47
inc595bddebian, /etc/init.d/soapd05:47
kUserothers offer other features, Tsunamii05:47
bddebianinc595: lol05:47
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bddebiandoug_: ?05:47
Tsunamiiwell, tbh - Gnome really bites the dust :p05:47
kUserTsunamii: some are slimmer (use less memory), some are more customisable, etc.05:47
Quest-Masterdoug_: sudo apt-get update05:47
IIIEarsnickrud - yep, stealthed except port 113 do i need it open? How do you close it if it isn't needed?05:48
Tsunamiiany stats on what people prefer?05:48
BeatYOubddebian: Host is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server05:48
inc595gnome is kool.. i think it would be nice if ubuntu came with kde gnome and fluxbox installed05:48
bddebianxfce4 for example is smaller05:48
calcgnome and kde really don't use all that much ram, though they may appear to05:48
Quest-Masterinc595 rofl.05:48
Quest-MasterIf that were true.05:48
brlanceralt+right-click is mapped to a context menu by default in gnome - how do I change it back to resize window?05:48
Quest-MasterThe install size and time would be massive.05:48
kUserinc595: wouldn't really be able to fit on 1 cd, then05:48
IceDC571inc595: dont use kool and gnome in the same sentence05:48
IceDC571inc595: only use it for kde05:48
calceg kdm/kde logged in will take somewhere around 50-60MB ram05:48
inc595well like give you the option :)05:48
nickrudIIIEars I leave it open, it's the ident server, irc uses it to check you out, i believe05:48
disasmcalc: when compared to fluxbox without all the underlying daemons, yeah they do. Try running the latest KDE on a 200 mhz p205:49
calcthough if you have a lot of ram free will report that a lot is used05:49
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bddebianBeatYOu: hang on, I need a smoke something fierce :-)05:49
Aerebushi all i just finished installing ubuntu for the very first time! i'm also a first time linux user and i have a slight problem, could someone tell me how to update my display driver? when i drag a window across my screen i am getting trails... like what usually happens on a generic display driver05:49
inc595gnome is pretty i lke it05:49
nickrudIIIEars you sure you don't have a firewall running?05:49
kUserinc595: there's always the option. If you install ubuntu, you can install kubuntu-desktop and xfce4. If you install kubuntu, you can install ubuntu-desktop and xfce4.05:49
BeatYOubddebian: chronic? or the evil tobacco05:49
maxy_noobHi guys, what app can I stream music with--preferably one with libraries in it05:49
James686Is it possible to have my computer read 2 CD rom drives at system reboot instead of one?05:49
calcdisasm: yea on older (> 5 years old) computers are likely to be better with a lightweight wm05:49
James686because right now the default one doesnt want to work...05:49
IIIEarsnickrud - ah, okay. can't help but to learn something here. - grin05:49
inc595kUser, ahh to much work05:49
IceDC571ahh i love gnome05:49
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kUserinc595: remember, it has to all fit on 1 cd05:50
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nickrudIIIEars heh, I pick up two for one over all :)05:50
calceven the kernel is bloated now compared to back then05:50
inc595kUser, how about 1 dvd05:50
disasmcalc: your right though, on a 2 ghz with 512 ram kde/gnome run pretty decent05:50
maxy_noobmusic player keeps cutting out.05:50
kUserinc595: not everyone has a dvd drive05:50
inc595not every want all three wm's05:50
calcif i am reading the numbers right the kernel on my box appears to be using ~ 18MB ram itself05:50
inc595kUser, would be a nice iso to d/l05:51
calcdisasm: even 1ghz with 128mb is plenty for them05:51
kUserinc595: some people make such iso(s) available05:51
disasmcalc: maybe the default kernel, but the 2.6 kernel is designed to be able to be used in embedded situations as well, so a custom compiled kernel with all the essentials is still pretty dang good on older comps05:51
calcdisasm: i used to use kde at work on one like that05:51
calcwe just recently upgraded to 3.2ghz05:51
nickrudcalc that does seem excessive05:51
maxy_noobI tried streamtuner and xmms but they kept freezing ubuntu05:51
inc595calc you're spoiled i got a nice 400MHz box here05:52
BeatYOuergghh waht is command to untar something, tar -whatflags ?05:52
kUsermaxy_noob: "cutting out"?05:52
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seth_ktar -x05:52
calcmy somewhat old laptop is 3.0 ;)05:52
seth_kfor tar.gz, tar -xvzf05:52
inc595calc, haha05:52
calcgot it about 18mo ago05:52
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IceDC571the tcl language is weird05:52
maxy_noobya, kUser, "unexpected end of stream!" error message.05:53
inc595calc this thing was made in 200105:53
IceDC571i compiled amsn with tcl and it took like 15 seconds to make05:53
calcof course since cpu's have stopped increasing in speed i don't have any plans to replace it soon05:53
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maxy_noobconsistently, too, after every song05:53
vinuxMan the backport links are going very slow!05:53
calcused to be cpus more than doubled in speed every 18mo :\05:53
BeatYOutar -xvzf file.tar.bz /where/to/extract ?05:53
inc595well they still are think 64bit05:53
IceDC571maxy_noob: yeah i have that problem until i used streamtuner + xmms05:53
calcinc595: i had a 1ghz box in mid 2000, i like to bleed ;)05:53
seth_kBeatYOu: looks fine05:53
maxy_noobIceDC571, how did you get them to work together?05:53
calcinc595: hmm what about 64bit?05:53
Aerebusanyone know how to update display drivers?05:54
inc595doubling power doesn't alway equal duoble the speed in mhz05:54
IceDC571maxy_noob: it works together by default05:54
doug_I've never used 'sudo'  (sucessfully).  How do I, for example, run the update program from the icon in the bottom panel?05:54
calcinc595: the amd64 chips are only 10-30% faster in 64bit mode05:54
IceDC571maxy_noob: all you need to do is run streamtuner and add your favorite stream station05:54
calcinc595: that is what my "old" laptop is athlon64 300005:54
PlutoPrimeGnomebaker never asked me to label my cd!! gnomebaker: 1 , graveman: 105:54
maxy_noobwell something's wrong with my setup then because each time I settled on a station in streamtuner and it launched xmms, my system would freeze.05:54
maxy_noobsorry, not my system by xmms. I couldn't close it either.05:55
calc1.0ghz was available in mid 2000, the fastest single core is only 4.0 now05:55
inc595well when they start coming out with better 64 bit software it'll blow the old stuff out of the water05:55
PlutoPrimeeven worse!!! the cd burnt successfully but it's blank!!! what gives?!05:55
bddebianBeatYOu: Just coffin nails :-)   Did you do:  GRANT ALL PRIVILIGES ON *.* TO user@<ip address> ?05:56
nickruddoug_ you can test sudo by opening a terminal and typing sudo ls. it will ask for your password; enter the password you used when you installed.05:56
calcif they had continued to increase in speed at the same rate we would be at over 10ghz (or equiv speed) now05:56
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virgule1 tgz05:56
calcactually iirc intel originally had planned the p4 to reach ~ 10ghz by 200505:57
bddebianBeatYOu: Don't we have phpmyadmin packages?05:57
calcand then the prescott came out :)05:57
nickrudBeatYOu what I normally do is cd to the directory I want the tar extracted to, then give the full path to the tar file.05:57
BeatYOubddebian do we ? apt-get ?05:57
BeatYOunickrud ill try that05:57
nameless1Does anyone here have maya, i just installed maya6.0 and there is no shortcut in the menu. i have found the directorys and tried to start it but can someone just tell me how. I realy need to get this working!05:57
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bddebianBeatYOu: Aye, "sudo apt-get phpmyadmin"05:58
kUsernameless1: should be as simple as executing maya05:58
inc595calc i doubt programmers could take advantage of the instructionsets fast enough so to make more money off slow chip they throttle it out ;)05:58
bddebianBeatYOu: Did you GRANT access to that host?05:58
nameless1i tried typing maya in the console and tried to execute 3 files called maya in the dirs05:58
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nickrudnameless1 as a general rule, you can find out the program name to call by doing 'dpkg -L | grep bin'05:58
nameless1i dont know what one is the "real" executable too05:58
eternale1question: ok i got the ssh server loaded up and started according to /etc/init.d but i can't login from any machine but this one05:58
IIIEars"Dual Core" - drool - grin05:58
inc595BeatYOu, use phpmyadmin.. so mush easier05:58
doug_O.K., I did that.  But I'm not sure what happened.05:58
BeatYOubddebian everytime i do sudo apt-get install at the end it alwasy gives me "E: couldn't find package whateverpackage"05:59
nickruddoug_ you should now have a new directory in the directory you cd'd to.05:59
bddebianBeatYOu: Do you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?05:59
BeatYOuDont know ? is it on ubuntu guide ?05:59
nickrudnameless1 I should have said, dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin :)06:00
nameless1nickrud:    where in the synatx do i put "maya"   sry im a noob   dpkg -L | grep bin06:00
bddebianDon't use ubuntuguide :-)06:00
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nameless1yeh lol06:00
nameless1you beat me 2 it :)06:00
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nickrudnameless1 by one second :)06:00
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bddebianBeatYOu: Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines for universe, etc06:00
BeefTubeanyone running blender with hoary 64bit version?06:00
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BeatYOukeep getting same errors when i try to untar this06:01
nameless1nameless1@ubuntu:~$  dpkg -L maya | grep bin06:02
nameless1Package `maya' is not installed.06:02
nameless1   it IS installed..... it had a few rpms that needed extracint and that wroked 100%    im installin kde for incase kde has the shotcut in its menu but does anyone know how to get maya6.0 goin06:02
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steven_<--- New Ubuntu user06:02
Tsunamiime too :D06:02
Tsunamiigot it yesterday06:02
kUsernameless1: how did you install Maya 6?06:03
bddebiansteven_: Congrats.  Welcome to the fold. :-)06:03
steven_LOL yeah man06:03
steven_am i part of the family?06:03
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nameless1it had some rpm files and i followed the documentation in the thing and extracted it perfectly06:03
BeatYOubddebian get all kinds of errors after uncommenting them and attemping phpmyadmin again06:03
nameless1to the "right dir"06:03
maxy_noobxmms freezes with streamtuner "tuning in"06:03
kUsernameless1: having never used said rpms, did you use alien?06:03
nickrudnameless1 rpm!!06:04
Tsunamiirevs per minute :D06:04
nameless1yeah i tried to do rpm but it said to type alien, did that and it worked06:04
QMarioWhy can't I log in as root using SWAT?06:04
kUsernameless1: ok, so you installed it via .deb(s)06:04
bddebianBeatYOu: It can't resolve the names?06:04
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QMarioI already did 'sudo smbpasswd -a' in the terminal.06:04
nameless1/usr/aw/maya6.0 is where it extracted the main rpm06:05
ggeecko_anyone here uses a palm with ubuntu?06:05
nickrudQMario I think swat requires a true root password, not sudo06:05
kUsernameless1: you can try using tab-completion in bash. Open a Terminal (or a Konsole) and type: maya (then hit tab a couple times)06:05
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kUsernameless1: in /usr/aw ?06:05
QMarioNickrud, what do you mean?06:05
steven_wow the synaptic manager looks awesome06:05
kUsernameless1: I bet /usr/aw isn't in your $PATH06:05
TraceHello, Can anybody tell me what's difference between i810_audio and snd_intel8x0?06:05
kUserTrace: i810_audio is the oss/free driver. The other is the alsa driver.06:06
nameless1rpm -i Maya6_0-6.0-#.i686.rpm AWCommon-6.0-1.i686.rpm AWCommon-server-6.0-1.i686.rpm      this is the command in the documentation that i edited with the right file version and used alien not rpm06:06
kUserTrace: you'll want to use the latter (the alsa)06:06
steven_let me get this straight06:06
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nameless1i opened the rpm and its dir structure is /usr/aw and i went to that dir on the harddrive and it has the stuff06:06
steven_If i want to install something06:06
steven_all i need to do06:06
steven_is go to the synaptic manager?06:06
BeatYOubddebian: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/42906:06
QMarioNickrud are you still there?06:06
bddebiansteven_: Aye, or use apt-get06:06
kUsernameless1: then you'll need to execute Maya 6 using its full path06:06
adwaitaloha ppl06:06
Tracethx, kuser!!06:07
nameless1na i meant that was part of the dir06:07
steven_pretty nifty06:07
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kUsernameless1: I presume there're executables in /usr/aw/... ?06:07
nickrudQMario yeah, I was looking to see if I could back that up :)06:07
bddebianwb adwait06:07
bddebianBeatYOu: Did you do an "sudo apt-get update" ?06:07
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adwaitthx bd06:07
steven_ok what should i use if i dont wanna use gnome06:07
bddebiansteven_: kubuntu06:07
nameless1/usr/aw/maya6.0/ it goes to here and then its filled with like 20 folders and no other files and some folders have different files called maya06:07
BeatYOuupdate is working now06:07
kUsersteven_: there are a variety of window managers and/or desktop environments you can use06:08
Tracebut in /lib/modules/**/modules.alias, both i810_auido and snd_intel8x0 maps the same, shall i just delete i810_audio's alisa?06:08
QMarioOh, okay.06:08
kUserTrace: don't touch any of that06:08
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IIIEarssteven - you can use synaptic to install the kubuntu-desktop (KDE)06:08
BeatYOubddebian: apt-get fully functional06:08
TokenBadanyone tried doom 3 for linux on ubuntu?06:08
nickrudQMario yeah, you need a true root password, not sudo. swat is a web interface, and sudo won't work.06:08
DaveyI just created a script to run 3ddesk, wait 20 seconds (whilst I choose a desktop) and then kill the daemon, so its not sitting there taking up way too many resources06:08
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QMarioWhat is a true root password?06:08
kUsernameless1: is there a /usr/aw/maya6.0/bin ?06:08
nickrudQMario sudo passwd root <password>06:08
bddebianBeatYOu: Sweet, now can you apt-get phpmyadmin?06:09
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IIIEarssteven xfce4 is much less resource hungry than even gnome06:09
vinuxTokenBad, there is a version released for linux?06:09
steven_OMFG this is awesome06:09
QMarioHow do I do that?06:09
ubotuI guess rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:09
maxyok then, how about this: can I get streamtuner to work with an app other than xmms?06:09
BeatYOubddebian: yes, hopefully it will know to put it in www where i can use it06:09
TokenBadso I have seen..but not real sure yet how good it is or anything else06:09
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steven_what do you guys prefer06:09
nickrudQMario sudo passwd root   will let you create a root pasword06:09
BeatYOulooks like its putting it in /etc/ :[06:09
steven_im downloading kde06:09
steven_Whats the best desktop enviorment06:09
nameless1KUser: sry my bad i got it worked its just got a few simple errors06:09
kUsersteven_: kubuntu-desktop, you mean?06:10
adwaitsteven_: i like gnome06:10
QMarioCan I use that for swat?06:10
steven_i dont like gnome06:10
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TraceAnctually, i used hwsetup to autoconfig my hardware.06:10
bddebiansteven_: xpde? ;-P06:10
steven_i need something more customizable06:10
adwaitQMario: run tht command and then use tht password for swat06:10
bddebianI'm kidding06:10
steven_never heard06:10
nickrudQMario you run that command, then, when swat asks for the password, use the one you just created06:10
BeatYOuahh beatiful06:10
Tracebut, kuduz tell me my sound card driver is use i810_audio06:10
BeatYOuphpmyadmin installed06:10
adwaitsteven_: if u like a XP like interface xpde06:10
QMarioWhen I use sudo smbpasswd -a to create a root user, and logon, it doesn't work.06:10
QMarioThen it says access denied.06:10
kUserTrace: cat /proc/asound/modules06:10
adwaitsteven_:else....lots available KDE, fluxbox, xfce06:10
steven_its cool06:10
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kUserTrace: type that in a Terminal or a Konsole06:11
adwaitQMario: don't create a root user.just sudo passwd06:11
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nickrudQMario I haven't used samba for a long time, so I can't help there. The web system administration interfaces require a root password.06:11
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QMarioThank you. Let me see if it works. :)06:12
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Tracethx, i think i know. thx!! kUser06:13
adwaithmm....so hey can somebody point me to some basic reading for compiling my own kernel?06:13
kUseradwait: it's probably easiest if you start with kernel-package06:14
BeatYOuanyone know where the real httpd.conf is? the one in /etc/apache2 seems weird.... only about 10 lines06:14
QMarioThank God. It works. :-D06:14
bddebianadwait: En googlis :-)06:14
steven_fluxbox is kinda ugly06:14
QMarioThank you everyone.06:14
adwaitkUser: if thts an app........i dont hv it, i guess apt-get06:14
kUsersteven_: you can install additional themes.06:14
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steven_can i download fluxbox and xfce on synaptic06:15
bddebianShould be able to06:15
kUsersteven_: sure. didn't you just install fluxbox?06:15
steven_nah i was looking at it on the site06:16
steven_im dwonloading kbuntu06:16
steven_off synaptic06:16
kUsersteven_: enable the universe repo and install 'fluxbox' for fluxbox and 'xfce4' for Xfce06:16
Dr_Willisand a dozen others :P06:16
_0killssteven_, sudo apt-get install fluxbox (or kde, xfce4, and theres one more for windows manager, but i cant remember it)06:16
adwaithey heres another problem.......apt-get sometimes cant resolve hostnames.....it looks for ip
nickrudsteven_ you want to see ugly, try twm :)06:17
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adwaiti had to replace the urls with ip addresses in sources.list to gt it to work..why?06:17
steven_what is06:17
bddebianxfce4 is nice06:17
BeatYOuuhh, anyone know how to change default root/nopassword account for MySQL06:17
adwaitsteven_: it is a command which allows u to work as root06:17
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BeatYOuat least add a password ?06:17
bddebianadwait: Your resolv.conf is jacked up?06:17
scanwinderis there an easy to use config utility for setting up dual monitors that will work in ubuntu?06:17
_0killssteven_, pretty new to linux/ubuntu?06:17
Dr_Willistry 'matchbox' window manager :P lol06:17
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steven_no su is root in redhat06:18
adwaitbddebian: well.....firefox seems to resolve the URLS fine...06:18
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steven_sudo is root in ubuntu i see06:18
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ubotuhmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:18
adwaitthe same issue with XChat, i had to replace irc.freenode.net with an ip address06:18
kUserBeatYOu: aren't you using mysqladmin?06:18
bddebianBeatYOu: Are you trying to mysql --user=root mysql ?06:18
adwaitsteven_:no..urnt getting it.....well try tht link06:18
steven_im not getting it06:18
nickrudsteven_ sudo is something that can give specific rights to a user, without them needing to know the root password06:18
BeatYOuyes phpmyadmin, but the passwords are encyrpted in there06:19
bddebianadwait: That makes no sense06:19
QMarioBye, everyone. :)06:19
BeatYOubddebian: no, just tyring to change the default for MySQL login06:19
bddebianadwait: What is in /etc/resolv.conf ?06:19
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_0killslater QMario06:19
Groobyhey all06:19
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Groobyi am trying to run mii-tool on my shuttle xpc (nforce2 chipset)06:19
Groobyand getting this funky message06:19
GroobySIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported06:20
Groobyno MII interfaces found06:20
Barneyi just installed ubuntu for the first time, and my monitor's resolution is terrible: 512x384. it's the only option in the preferences pane, though, so how can i make it better? anyone?06:20
Groobyi can go on internet w/ out any problem06:20
kUserGrooby: using forcedeth?06:20
Groobykuser: yes06:20
kUserGrooby: that's because that chipset has no mii06:20
adwaitbddebian:resolv.conf points to my ADSL router.....which is configured to get the DNS server06:20
uboturesolution is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:20
Groobyis there anyway I can see if it's working at 100mb or 10mb?06:21
BeatYOuNM didn't see the change password in phpmyadmin06:21
nickrudBarney that resolution thing should be your first step06:21
Barneynickrud: type that in terminal?06:21
bddebianadwait: I don't think that is right.  Is firefox using your adsl router as a proxy?06:21
adwaitumm....ok i apt-get (got?) the kernel-package.......now wht?06:21
nickrudBarney no, go to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto , it has instructions06:21
adwaitbddebian: nope..it is working w/o proxies06:21
adwaitbddebian: u think i should directly add the DNS server to the resolv.conf and try?06:22
nickrudBarney if that doesn't work, check in here again.06:22
kUserGrooby: wait, you were using sudo, correct?06:22
kUseradwait: now read the man page for make-kpkg06:22
Groobysudo or root term06:22
Groobysame thing06:22
kUserGrooby: right, that's a hardware limitation06:22
bddebianadwait: Yes, I would try that06:22
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Groobywelp..that just blow a big fat left nutty06:23
maxyfigured out the xmms freeze.06:24
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maxyoptions > output > choose "esound"06:25
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adwaithm......bddebian tht appears to have fixed the resolution problem thx06:27
adwaitbut the name resolution is still pretty slow.......if i use an ip i get connected much much faster06:28
maxyOk, how do I change this awful unintelligible xmms skin?06:28
BeatYOuusing phpmyadmin how would i allow remote connections?06:28
BeatYOudont understand06:28
BeatYOustill get the error saying my machine isn't allowed to connect06:29
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HrdwrBoBmaxy: look at the options06:29
HrdwrBoBI bet you can figure it out06:29
maxyso this is the only skin that comes with it?06:29
bddebianadwait: :-)06:30
kUsermaxy: download some06:30
bddebianBeatYOu: You have to do: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO <user>@<host or ip>06:30
HrdwrBoBmaxy: xmms-skins package06:31
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cafuegobddebian: Does phpmyadmin run on the same box as mysql?06:31
bddebianHello duken06:31
dukeni have problem with print from openoffice06:32
bddebiancafuego: It can06:32
nickrudI found a decent guide to make-kpkg once, I can't seem to find it anymore06:32
dukenwon't print06:32
BeatYOubddebian, thanks, i tired just * but had to actually ad my IP06:32
cafuegoBeatYOu: Does phpmyadmin run on the same box as mysql?06:32
adwaitnickrud: :(........thx for looking though :)06:32
BeatYOucafuego no06:32
BeatYOuits fixed now06:32
BeatYOuhaha, wait, cafuego misunderstood your question06:33
BeatYOuyes it does06:33
cafuegoBeatYOu: Ok, then you'll ineed need to specify the IP and make sure mysql is listening on the network06:33
maxyHrdwrBoB, that's an idea, thanks!06:33
cafuegoBeatYOu: Ah ok, then you do NOT grant any extra rights.06:33
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dukeni can't print from openoffice, but from others like abiword, i can06:33
adwaitcafuego: mysql doesnt listen to the network.........does it?06:33
cafuegoBeatYOu: Did you set up the mysql root user?06:33
cafuegoadwait: Not by default, no.06:33
nickrudadwait http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html, but it's not the one I was looking for.06:33
dukenhow to fix it ?06:33
BeatYOuyea with password, also made a new one for me to access from my machine/ip only06:33
cafuegoadwait: If the apache box running phpmyadmin was a different machine it would need to, though.06:33
nickrudmy, that's old06:34
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BeatYOucafuego - do i need to keep ahold of the mysql account debian-sys-maint ?06:34
maxygeez, these designers think we have paranormal vision!06:35
BeatYOuor can it be deleted06:35
adwaitcafuego: hm k06:35
cafuegoBeatYOu: Cool. Just edit /eyc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php and set the root password for $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['controlpass'] 06:35
scanwinderdoes anyone know of any good config utilities that will setup dual display?06:35
cafuegoBeatYOu: No, do not delete the debian-sys-maint user.06:35
adwaitnickrud: hmm......thx....ill try tht tonight06:35
kUserscanwinder: for nvidia cards?06:36
nickrudadwait I think the docs I'm looking for are in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package, but, since I'm on dialup right now, I can't check there.06:36
hyapadiI already open samba port in firestarter, but my windows machine won't access my ubuntu server unless i stop the firewall. is there any other port that i should open? Thx06:37
cafuegoBeatYOu: By default, you should be able to log in at http://hostname/phpmyadmin/ using your sql user/pass combo.06:37
scanwinderkUser, for ATI06:37
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kUserscanwinder: their documentation should help06:37
BeatYOucafuego i can, but I like to manage with the GUI MySQL Administrator tool put out by mysql06:37
BeatYOuI setup phpmyadmin for users that I host06:37
BeatYOufriends mainly06:37
BeatYOufor their DBs06:37
cafuegoBeatYOu: *nod*06:38
adwaitnickrud: yeah..there are readme files here.thx06:38
BeatYOui've been hosting on a windows machine, but installed unbuntu today to get my feet in linux06:38
BeatYOuand am enjoying t06:38
cafuegoshould give you far better performance too06:38
BeatYOumost definatly06:38
BeatYOuive noticed it already06:38
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nickrudadwait np, I usually look there under the package name first for stuff, it's usually good.06:38
BeatYOueven with bulky VNC running06:38
bddebianBeatYOu: Just for kicks, I would still try SQLyog.  It's pretty nice :-)06:39
cafuegonot that i'd ever DREAM of claiming windows sucked...06:39
BeatYOubddebian yea it is, was just about to take a look06:39
adwaitnickrud: hmm....i didnt know abt /usr/share/doc......directory.......thx06:40
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BeatYOuit definatly does for web hosting06:40
bimberiBarney: /j #slug06:40
BeatYOuLAMP > WAMP06:40
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BeatYOucool, what are server specs ?06:41
BeatYOui just host friends mainly, and an image uploader for forums etc06:42
cafuegoAthlon XP 2600+ with 1 GB ram06:42
BeatYOuam using spare parts with Athlon XP 1800+ , 512mb, nothing special06:42
cafuegowith about 350Mb ram unused06:42
BeatYOuwill hopefully be my MythTV box also06:42
BeatYOubut thats in a few days06:42
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bddebianWell bed time for this old man.  Good night folks and enjoy!06:42
cafuegomythtv can run on the scary athlon64 desktop ;-)06:43
BeatYOulater thanks for the help06:43
BeatYOucafuego you know where the real httpd.conf is, the one in /etc/apache2 is only about 10 lines06:43
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bddebianBeatYOu: Did I help any? ;-P06:43
BeatYOubddebian you did ;] 06:43
digitalfoxBeatYOu, it's put in a ton of places06:44
BeatYOuwhich is the one i should use06:44
cafuegoBeatYOu: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  - just make new files for new hosts, then run 'sudo a2ensite' to enable 'em06:44
bddebianBeatYOu: "sudo find / -name httpd.conf" :-)06:44
cafuegoBeatYOu: Also see /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | ports.conf and mods-enabled/*.conf06:44
BeatYOuso mkdir test.host.com ?06:46
BeatYOuin sites-available06:46
cafuegoBeatYOu: No, a FILE in /etc/apache2/sites-available06:46
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BeatYOujust empty ?06:46
cafuegoBeatYOu: Well, with all the directives (logging, features etc) for your VirtualHost06:46
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BeatYOuso just copy from default and go from there ?06:47
cafuegoYeah, that's easiest.06:47
cafuegoI could give you my script... :-)06:47
lumberjackhey when i mount my serial ata in my /mnt/folder/ it sets the permissions to root06:47
BeatYOuwould be awesome, anything in particular you have enabled? i need mod_rewrite for sure06:48
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cafuegolumberjack: yes06:48
cafuegoBeatYOu: No, i don't use rewrite; pretty much php in safe mode, the odd ssl site and that's it.06:48
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lumberjackcafuego, yeah whats the command line06:49
lumberjackcafuego, isnt it like mode=000 or somethign06:49
cafuegolumberjack: man mount, check umask, uid and gid06:49
lumberjackcafuego, thnx06:49
Tsunamiiwhat's a good mp3 player?06:50
Tsunamiiwith updated audio codecs06:50
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Tsunamiii don't like totem playing my music files too :(06:50
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nickrudTsunamii I use muine mostly06:50
knoppixTsunamii, beep-media-player, amarok06:50
nickrudTsunamii huh, download :)06:51
cafuegoBeatYOu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/43006:51
Tsunamiiwhat's the most popular? :P06:51
cafuegoBeatYOu: Just comment out the webalizer stuff06:51
nickrudTsunamii rhythmbox is on the cd, but you will need gstreamer0.8-mad from universe06:51
maewhy does us.archive.ubuntu.com always get borked?06:51
BeatYOuis there an apt-get for webalizer? could use that myself06:51
Tsunamiigstreamer ?06:51
cafuegoBeatYOu: Yes, there is.06:51
Tsunamiii'll check that out in snaptix06:51
HrdwrBoBawstats is superior to webalizer06:51
Barneyok, i went to the wiki and tried the first option for fixing my screen resolution, but now i can't see anything. the monitor is completely blank. all the other methods involve being able to see the screen, so does anyone have any ideas? aside from reinstalling?06:52
HrdwrBoBin my experience (which is using them both for a hosting company)06:52
nickrudTsunamii that gstreamer thing lets rhythmbox play mp3's06:52
SysFailthese random kaffeine and konqueror crashes are getting beyond annoying06:52
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: it's much of a muchness when clients don't know the difference between a hit and a visit.06:52
SysFailarent these documented anywhere?06:52
Tsunamiinickrud, any other codecs I should download?06:52
HrdwrBoBcafuego: possibly, but there's more info in awstats, and it's a whole lot less of a giant pain in the arse on the server side06:53
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Howso pain?06:53
nickrudTsunamii there are a lot of odd codecs for music, but for mp3's that's all you need06:53
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HrdwrBoBcafuego: webalizer is wacky, does things month by month, isn't easy to use in a more complicated environment06:53
HrdwrBoBif you want a simple pretty page for a few websites06:54
cafuegoBeatYOu: Oh, and you may need to tweak the ownership lines in that script; mine use an ftp virtual user (chroot stuff, sql backend)06:54
HrdwrBoBit's easy06:54
Tsunamiistill not happy about the quality of sound it's producing06:54
HrdwrBoBbut if you want to get decent stats for 500 websites per server....06:54
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Does it run off a single amalgamated logfile?06:54
HrdwrBoBwell, webalizer needs logs spliut by month.. wtf there06:55
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HrdwrBoBcafuego: it can06:55
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: webalizer doesn't need the logs split06:55
HrdwrBoBI was using it with a piped process06:55
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Tsunamiiis there somehow to update the sound drivers or something?06:55
Tsunamiithe sound output really sucks :/06:55
nickrudTsunamii mpg123 is a command line mp3 player, I think some people use it to check sound.06:56
BeatYOucan awstats and webalizer be used simulataniously ;]  ?06:56
cafuegoBeatYOu: No reason why not06:56
Tsunamiii just pop that in to the terminal nickrud ?06:56
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HrdwrBoBBeatYOu: only if you're a glutton for punishment06:57
nickrudTsunamii yeah, mpg123 <mp3>06:57
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BeatYOucafuego are yoru webalizer dirs the default ?06:57
phlangei just installed06:57
phlangefirst time on linux06:57
keyshawnhowdy, can anyone remind me where the gnome logs are at ?06:57
Tsunamiicommand not found06:57
keyshawni think its in /usr/share/gnome06:57
Tsunamiimeh, dw :P06:57
keyshawnbut I can't find it in there.06:57
nickrudTsunamii it's also in universe, there are no mp3 players on the cd ;)06:58
speelkeyshawn, might be in /var/log06:58
bimberiphlange: hi06:58
keyshawni was trying to use gdesklets06:58
keyshawnand then after installing it06:58
keyshawnvia apt06:58
Tsunamiiwhat else is neat that I should install? :P06:58
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speelLol gdesklets was hell for me06:58
keyshawnwhen i try to log into gnome [and failsafe]  the screen flickers and im back @ the log-in screen06:58
keyshawnI already did apt-get remove gdesklets, though that didn't solve it.06:59
nickrudpan, and liferea or straw06:59
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keyshawnTsunamii, how about wget ?06:59
keyshawnget to know that.06:59
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Tsunamiiwhat's that?07:00
nickrudwget is one of the great ones :)07:00
keyshawndamn right07:00
Tsunamiibut what is it? D:!07:00
nickrudwget = web get (darn near anything)07:00
speelTsunamii, wget is just a program that grabs files fromthe net say like wget www.bla.com/bla.zip07:00
Barneyanyone got any tips for my monitor problem?07:00
evilgod69anyone had problems with frozen-bubble & sound from universe on ubuntu 5.04?07:00
BeatYOucafuego assuming i need to chagne this VHOST_IP also07:00
Tsunamiiis that all? :P07:01
Tsunamiithat's dumb, i'll do it manually :P07:01
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speelevilgod69, nope not here07:01
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nickrudBarney that web page didn't help?07:02
maxy_noobIs there a peer to peer app in synaptic?07:02
speeli suggest to all noobs go to www.ubuntuguide.org07:02
keyshawnmaxy_noob, there's azureus, gtk-gnutella, nicotine, amule.07:02
Barneynickrud: not exactly. i tried the first solution, and now my screen is blank. can't see anything.07:02
maxy_noobwhich is best for dl'ing music?07:02
evilgod69anyone NOT had problems with frozen-bubbles sound from universe on ubuntu 5.04?07:02
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speelmaxy_noob, limewire :D07:03
jasmuzevilgod69: me07:03
speelfor me any way07:03
maxy_noobI dl'd it but it looks complicated to install07:03
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speelmaxy_noob, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire07:03
odie5533There a way to see whats on an mbr of a drive/delete what is on it?07:03
BeatYOucafuego so i save this file as my domain name or something ?07:04
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keyshawnhere's a pastebin of what I found via .xsession07:05
maxy_noobnothing there speel07:05
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maxy_noobunofficial starter guide07:05
cafuegoBeatYOu: the thing I pasted is a shells cript that generated a vhost entry for apache207:05
speelmaxy_noob, it tells you exactly how to install limewire07:05
maxy_noobare you sure?07:05
keyshawnuhh yeah07:05
speelLol yea07:05
keyshawnjust follow the directions07:05
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BeatYOuerrr, i mis understood then, so i replace everything in default with this07:06
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nickrudBarney if you made a backup of xorg.conf, you can get back to what you had by copying it back.07:06
maxy_noob'cause when I go there the page is Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide07:06
speelscroll down07:06
Barneynickrud: that would have been a good idea, eh? however, i didn't do that.07:06
maxy_noobright, ok well it's still loading.07:07
Barneynickrud: guess i'm reinstalling.07:07
maxy_noobI'm sure it will time out or something.07:07
speelworks for me =/07:07
nickrudBarney then, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.07:07
nickrudno reinstall necessary07:07
Barneynickrud: where should i type that?07:08
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nickrudBarney in a terminal, applications->system tools->terminal07:08
Barneynickrud: how should i get a terminal open if i can't see anything?07:08
bimberiBarney: <ctrl><alt>F2 - then log in07:08
nickrudBarney heh, duh, all that :)07:09
nickrudBarney ctl-alt-f1 will get you a virtual console, you can log in there and run those commands07:09
Barneyoh, the ctrl-alt-F2 worked07:10
^thehatsrule^F1-6 i believe07:11
airmikeyyis it possible to rotate the desktop07:11
gpdIf I have an AMD64 chip, but I want to run 32Bit ubuntu, is the i686 kernel the one to choose?07:11
Tsunamiiwhat's the hotkeys for terminating a program?07:11
speelTsunamii, well i open up a console and type xkill07:12
ArniaWow, the Ubuntu packages even include Perligata. I can write programs in perl using Latin syntax and vocab. Ubuntu truly has it all ;)07:12
bimberiTsunamii: <ctrl>C (if the program is running in a terminal)07:12
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Tsunamiii see07:12
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Tsunamiiwhat if it isn't running in term?07:12
nickrudlatin? as in cicero???