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| froud | in breezy network installation is supported. | 08:13 |
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| froud | in sources.list does anyone know how this line will look | 08:13 |
| froud | deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted | 08:13 |
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| hunger | Computer is unusable again:-( | 09:24 |
| hunger | kded eats up all cpu-cycles and when I kill it my wallets are gone and my keybindings, too. | 09:24 |
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| Mez | Riddell ping agin - just worked out that konv 0.18 needs a rebuild to make ti depend on libxi-dev | 11:14 |
| Riddell | ok I'll do that, thanks | 11:15 |
| Mez | (I built konv 0.18) | 11:16 |
| Mez | (sorry build-Depends | 11:17 |
| Mez | ;) | 11:17 |
| Mez | but I can do that once I've finished re-backporting if you want | 11:17 |
| Riddell | do what? | 11:17 |
| Mez | redo konv 0.18 | 11:17 |
| Riddell | but you can't upload? | 11:17 |
| Mez | with the libxi-dev depends | 11:18 |
| Mez | I can forward to you as i normally do ;) as i did for the last version of konv I built (which is the one I'd be editing) | 11:18 |
| Riddell | any other changes? | 11:19 |
| Mez | I don't know yet | 11:19 |
| Mez | I was backporting it... and I forgot to change from my breezy to my hoary pbuild ;) | 11:19 |
| Mez | and stumbled across that error :D | 11:19 |
| Mez | so I'll see when I build | 11:19 |
| Mez | Riddell: want that konv update? | 12:24 |
| Riddell | Mez: what changes? | 12:25 |
| Mez | just the libxi-dev addition | 12:26 |
| Riddell | already done that th | 12:26 |
| Riddell | already done that thanks :) | 12:26 |
| Mez | k | 12:27 |
| Riddell | if you see any more of those pesky xi jobs, do give us a poke | 12:27 |
| Mez | k3b's already done :D :P | 12:29 |
| uniq | riddell: FYI, i'm fixing this now: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2005-July/001212.html | 01:34 |
| Riddell | uniq: cool | 01:35 |
| uniq | both for kubuntu.org and breezy, i'll upload and give you urls once they are ready. | 01:35 |
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| Riddell | uniq: what's the status of kio-apt packages? | 02:41 |
| Riddell | froud-work: "gstreamer may replace amorok" amarok will use gstreamer | 02:54 |
| froud-work | kk | 02:55 |
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| Riddell | but the end user shouldn't notice | 02:55 |
| froud-work | Riddell: fixed in svn will be uploaded on tonights build | 02:59 |
| froud-work | Thanks ;-) | 03:00 |
| Riddell | froud-work: what's the difference between Kubuntu User Guide and Kynaptic User Manual? | 03:00 |
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| Riddell | aaah | 03:02 |
| Riddell | I misread Kynaptic as Kubuntu for some reason, just me going blind | 03:02 |
| froud-work | Ah ha, ok | 03:02 |
| froud-work | though for a minute there was a bug in the build | 03:02 |
| froud-work | The faqguides are rough | 03:02 |
| froud-work | they contain much gnome stuff presently | 03:03 |
| froud-work | but ppl are working on that | 03:03 |
| froud-work | the faqguide is six books in one | 03:03 |
| froud-work | one xml instance | 03:04 |
| Riddell | gosh | 03:04 |
| froud-work | Ubuntu (i386, AMD64, PPC) and Kubuntu (i386, AMD64, PPC) | 03:04 |
| froud-work | the delta between these books is large so it makes sense to just create profiles for each of those target books | 03:05 |
| Riddell | what sort of things are different? | 03:05 |
| froud-work | small changes | 03:06 |
| froud-work | somewhere between 6 and a dozen in all | 03:06 |
| froud-work | maybe a bit more | 03:07 |
| froud-work | and of course with kubuntu the name changes | 03:07 |
| froud-work | but essentially when I person sees the i386 book they will not see info relative to AMD or PPC | 03:07 |
| froud-work | and the other way around | 03:08 |
| Riddell | yep | 03:08 |
| froud-work | I am not following it much yet, the guys who wrote the variants of the ubuntuguide.org are doing it | 03:09 |
| froud-work | and in doing so, ensuring that the eveil stuff in ubuntuguide.org is made holy or uninstalled | 03:09 |
| froud-work | otherwise we can't release as official | 03:10 |
| tvo | Riddell: kio-locate is now in supermirror | 03:11 |
| Riddell | tvo: ooh, excellent | 03:11 |
| Riddell | tvo: can you add to your wiki page how to get it out of supermirror :) | 03:11 |
| tvo | Riddell: you mean, for others if they want to mirror it locally and possibly fork a new implementation? | 03:13 |
| tvo | or look at it whatever | 03:13 |
| Riddell | tvo: well I mean for people like me who want to look at it | 03:13 |
| Riddell | froud-work: who needs to do the reviewing in the Needs Review sections? | 03:13 |
| froud-work | Anyone can | 03:13 |
| tvo | Riddell: ok, that's what I meant :) going to investigate now | 03:14 |
| tvo | and find out how | 03:14 |
| froud-work | Riddell: its a way for us to know in what state a node is, ad development progresses you will see more status = complete | 03:14 |
| froud-work | Riddell: the status's are described here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamWork?highlight=%28CategoryDocteam%29 | 03:18 |
| Riddell | froud-work: so if it says "Awaiting Review" who's doing the reviews? | 03:20 |
| froud-work | Riddell: you or anyone, mostly the members of the docteam take a look at these points. We check each others work. But anone can do the review. From the developers perspective you shoul dbe looking for technical wrongs. Lik ethe amarok/gstreamer example | 03:22 |
| froud-work | does that make sense? | 03:23 |
| Riddell | yep, think so | 03:23 |
| froud-work | The report is just all the headings with a status attributed to them | 03:24 |
| froud-work | when the book is new it is full of help wanted | 03:24 |
| froud-work | as the book develops you will see writing and reviewing | 03:24 |
| froud-work | and Awaiting Review then finally complete | 03:25 |
| Riddell | is the .deb package good enough to be uploaded so we can get it past NEW and into the daily CDs? (gets the visibility up and people may help more) | 03:25 |
| froud-work | yes it is, but we were discussing the naming convention | 03:25 |
| froud-work | could we change it | 03:25 |
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| Riddell | change from kubuntu-docs? | 03:26 |
| froud-work | we were thinking kubuntu-doc-5.10-1.1 kubuntu-doc-5.10-1.2 kubuntu-doc-5.10-1.3 etc | 03:26 |
| froud-work | this file never goes up to debian | 03:26 |
| froud-work | or any upstream for that matter | 03:26 |
| uniq | riddell: kio-apt ready except the favicon which i have no idea how to solve. | 03:26 |
| froud-work | uniq: ello | 03:27 |
| uniq | hi froud. | 03:27 |
| froud-work | Riddell: what do you think? | 03:28 |
| Riddell | froud-work: so changing the version number? | 03:28 |
| froud-work | at present it is kubuntu-docs-0.1ubuntu1 | 03:29 |
| froud-work | that makes no sense | 03:29 |
| froud-work | uniq suggested perhaps we should do kubuntu-doc-5.10-0.1 then at release do kubuntu-doc-5.10-1.1 | 03:29 |
| Riddell | sounds like a good idea | 03:30 |
| froud-work | ok so I will change it for tonights build | 03:30 |
| froud-work | you should be able to download it and put it up | 03:30 |
| froud-work | tomorrow | 03:30 |
| Riddell | I'm away tomorrow, but I'll mind and look at it on Sunday | 03:31 |
| froud-work | do you just need the deb? | 03:31 |
| froud-work | sure no rush | 03:31 |
| froud-work | how often do you want to upload it? | 03:31 |
| froud-work | I would say once a week should be enough | 03:32 |
| Riddell | sounds about right | 03:32 |
| froud-work | OK, just so you know it only builds if there are changes in the srcs | 03:33 |
| froud-work | so if no work was done then no build and no update | 03:33 |
| froud-work | generally there have been daily changes so updates have been done | 03:33 |
| uniq | riddell: i'll upload kio-apt, should i put it on REVU, or the regular place? | 03:35 |
| Riddell | froud-work: is it possible/easy to get funky things like kubuntu themed headers on the HTML? | 03:35 |
| Riddell | uniq: depends if you think it should be reviewed or just quietly uploaded hoping nobody notices :) | 03:36 |
| uniq | riddell: it is pretty good imho. only one linda error, which is on purpose. | 03:36 |
| froud-work | Riddell: it should be, though I am not totally sure how. KDE uses a custom layer on top of docbook dtd and the use the file extension .docbook | 03:37 |
| uniq | riddell: i'll put it on revu anyway, i like the feedback. | 03:37 |
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| froud-work | Riddell: I think if you do use the extension, then you get the kde header for free | 03:37 |
| Riddell | uniq: got a URL for me to look over it quickly first | 03:37 |
| froud-work | Riddell: but I am not sure if you must also use the kde dtd | 03:37 |
| uniq | riddell: sure. it'll take some time, ISDN power. | 03:38 |
| froud-work | Riddell: but we are also not building using the KDE Documentation Project Stylesheets or meinproc | 03:38 |
| froud-work | so I guess it wont work | 03:39 |
| froud-work | Riddell: I will look into building a Kubuntu customization of the header so we can use kde look or our own | 03:39 |
| Riddell | froud-work: yeah, if the package contains HTML then surly it's a case of add thing pretty style when that HTML is generated | 03:40 |
| froud-work | yes, but we do transformations to HTML from the XML using XSL | 03:40 |
| froud-work | we use xsltproc | 03:40 |
| Riddell | so it's the job of xsltproc | 03:41 |
| Riddell | or the XSL stylesheet I guess | 03:41 |
| froud-work | so I will have to add a custom.header template to over-ride the default provided by docbook-xsl | 03:41 |
| froud-work | Riddell: in short, yes | 03:41 |
| Riddell | uniq: you should work on a remote server with NX, saves all that upload stuff | 03:42 |
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| uniq | riddell: is NX useable with ISDN? | 03:44 |
| Riddell | tvo: have you had a look at Kat? I'm wondering if it's worth bothering with kfind at all and just make Kat good and replace | 03:44 |
| Riddell | uniq: should be, want access to my server? | 03:44 |
| tvo | Riddell: not yet, maybe I'll do that later today | 03:45 |
| uniq | riddell: would be cool to test. | 03:46 |
| tvo | Riddell: but you're right, too much searching programs would be overkill, so I'd better take the best one and improve | 03:46 |
| Riddell | uniq: e-mail your name, phone number and declaration that you won't abuse it written in blood to jriddell@ubuntu.com | 03:47 |
| uniq | OK. | 03:48 |
| Riddell | tvo: what would you say to sending me weekly Friday status reports saying what you've done for the last week and plans for the next week? | 03:49 |
| uniq | riddell: http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/breezy/kio-apt/ - source package | 03:49 |
| tvo | Riddell: that's ok for me | 03:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: what kind of document format do you prefer? | 03:51 |
| Riddell | tvo: just an e-mail I guess | 03:54 |
| tvo | Riddell: ok is fine, I'll start tonight, first one will contain what I've done until now (as opposed to only this week) | 03:56 |
| uniq | riddell: you have mail, short but i hope it will do it :) | 03:59 |
| Riddell | uniq: excellent :) preferred username? | 04:00 |
| uniq | 'frode' | 04:00 |
| Riddell | uniq: s/remote/kio-apt/ in src/apt.protocol | 04:13 |
| uniq | ok. | 04:14 |
| tvo | Riddell: updated the wiki ;) | 04:14 |
| uniq | riddell: damn, it was that easy, and i was too focused on the .desktop files.. | 04:15 |
| Riddell | uniq: kubuntu logo might look better just on a white background | 04:19 |
| guinsel | is apt-indicator already available? | 04:20 |
| uniq | yes, i've been thinking about it. remove all teh blue.. and make the text blue/black instead. | 04:20 |
| uniq | that's one of the remaining things. | 04:20 |
| uniq | I'll look into it. | 04:21 |
| uniq | will have to change to color/placemnet of hte "info-text" too.. | 04:22 |
| uniq | if the blue header is removed. | 04:22 |
| uniq | bbl, food. | 04:26 |
| uniq | riddell: new source package uploading. | 04:26 |
| uniq | with the favicon fix.. | 04:26 |
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| pef | hello | 06:59 |
| uniq | hi pef. | 07:02 |
| pef | is it a well formed bug report ? https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1292 | 07:05 |
| uniq | is this hoary or breezy? what repositories do you have activated? | 07:12 |
| uniq | that's the two first questions i would ask. | 07:13 |
| pef | malone is only for breezy no ? | 07:13 |
| uniq | i think it's for all universe things. | 07:14 |
| uniq | and breezy.. | 07:14 |
| pef | ok, I supposed not | 07:16 |
| pef | corrected :) | 07:19 |
| pef | hum | 07:19 |
| pef | now I can upload | 07:19 |
| pef | but I'm afraid to made a mistake | 07:19 |
| uniq | upload to where? | 07:27 |
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| pef | uniq: to revu | 07:28 |
| Soneras | hello | 07:28 |
| Soneras | froud: you're working on kquickguide? | 07:28 |
| uniq | don't be afraid, revu is just a review tool, nothing can break seriously. | 07:28 |
| pef | Soneras: hi | 07:29 |
| pef | uniq: jridell has already upload my package, if I upload a new package, will it be added to the existent or it will be considered as new ? | 07:30 |
| uniq | pef: new i thnk. | 07:30 |
| uniq | *think. | 07:30 |
| pef | mmm so the old must be deleted no ? | 07:32 |
| uniq | you should talk to siretart in #ubuntu-motu | 07:32 |
| uniq | he'll delete teh old one uploaded by riddell. | 07:32 |
| pef | thanks ;) | 07:33 |
| froud | Riddell: if default folders are implimented I take it that Settings > User Account, Paths will include ability to change these paths? | 07:50 |
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| froud | Soneras: kquickguide patch applied. Thanks | 09:08 |
| Soneras | no problem froud, I'll look around for missing manual links now | 09:09 |
| froud | cool | 09:09 |
| Soneras | froud, for kaffeine it says <!-- No Upstream Manual Available --><!--<para>For more information see the <ulink url="help:/kaffeine">Kaffeine manual</ulink>.</para>--># | 09:13 |
| Soneras | <!-- No Upstream Manual Available --><!--<para>For more information see the <ulink url="help:/kaffeine">Kaffeine manual</ulink>.</para>--> | 09:13 |
| Soneras | no manual available, but there is | 09:13 |
| froud | could be | 09:14 |
| Soneras | atleast for me | 09:14 |
| froud | if there is then just remove the comment | 09:14 |
| Soneras | ok :) | 09:14 |
| froud | there where a couple of those | 09:14 |
| Soneras | riddell? a question; will there be bootsplash / grub menu artwork in breezy? so a) will it be in ubuntu and b) if there will be is there already artwork for kubuntu? I did some of those for SimplyMepis before, so maybe if that's still to be done I could help out a bit - no original artwork though I'd only alter whatever is there (for mepis there was a wallpaper I could work with - and didn't do the packaging for them. so, basically I'm jus | 09:21 |
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| tvo | Riddell: mail sent, wiki updated | 10:32 |
| froud | updated http://www.lnix.net/~froud/ | 10:37 |
| pef | bye ! | 10:50 |
| froud | night | 11:00 |
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| Soneras | bye | 11:10 |
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| tvo | night | 11:17 |
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