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| mgalvin | hey rob^, been busy huh, great work :) | 04:21 |
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| mgalvin | rob^, one suggestion, if you use java 1.5 for the java section then the mozilla/firefox plugin will work | 04:21 |
| mgalvin | either way i think we also need to determine how gij and the jre might effect each other, i have seen issues arise when both are on a system together | 04:27 |
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| rob^ | yeah | 04:57 |
| rob^ | at least we now have a method that doesnt rely on bad repos :) | 04:58 |
| rob^ | I'll have another look at it | 04:58 |
| rob^ | mgalvin, blackdown doesnt seem to have an installer for 1.5 yet | 05:01 |
| mgalvin | rob^, only sun has a working 1.5 implementation thus far | 05:05 |
| rob^ | http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php | 05:05 |
| rob^ | good page that | 05:06 |
| mgalvin | cool | 05:06 |
| rob^ | once the apply the patch I just sent in, I'll update that java stuff | 05:12 |
| mgalvin | rob^ did you "apply" for commit access yet, if not you should | 05:14 |
| rob^ | they are still getting around to adding an account for me | 05:15 |
| mgalvin | same here, still waiting on mine too | 05:15 |
| mgalvin | l8r | 05:26 |
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| rob^ | has anyone applied my patch I sent eariler yet? | 06:09 |
| rob^ | ^earlier | 06:10 |
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| froud | morning | 07:57 |
| rob^ | morning, did you get my patch | 08:01 |
| froud | yes I just applied it | 08:01 |
| rob^ | ty | 08:01 |
| froud | np | 08:01 |
| froud | in sources.list. If installation is done over network what will | 08:03 |
| froud | deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted | 08:03 |
| froud | be | 08:03 |
| rob^ | well that line points to your cd for a start | 08:05 |
| froud | yes but what if I instaled from network | 08:05 |
| rob^ | just edit out that line and enable the other repos | 08:05 |
| froud | FTP, TFTP | 08:05 |
| froud | lets say I did not use a cd to install | 08:06 |
| rob^ | what are you trying to make apt do? not use the cd at all | 08:06 |
| froud | I created a bootdisk and selected to install from a network resource | 08:06 |
| rob^ | yes | 08:06 |
| froud | not trying to do anything | 08:06 |
| froud | just trying to write about it | 08:07 |
| rob^ | oh | 08:07 |
| froud | in breezy we are supposed to have network installation | 08:07 |
| rob^ | I would assume that there wouldn't be a line like that at all | 08:07 |
| froud | so if user installs form NFS or TFP what will the line say | 08:07 |
| froud | there should be | 08:07 |
| froud | because there are many packages on the network share | 08:08 |
| rob^ | all the packages should be contained on what ever repo you installed from | 08:08 |
| rob^ | or network share | 08:08 |
| froud | its just like copying the cd to a disk and exporting it using nfs | 08:08 |
| rob^ | hmm | 08:09 |
| rob^ | not sure, dont do to many installs like that | 08:09 |
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| Burgundavia | salut all | 08:46 |
| Burgundavia | I love live cds | 08:46 |
| Burgundavia | no more XP for me | 08:46 |
| froud | XP you been on XP all this time | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | no | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | see planet.ubuntu | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | see planet.ubuntu0 | 08:48 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 08:48 |
| Burgundavia | right | 08:48 |
| Burgundavia | I run Breezy at home | 08:48 |
| froud | Burgundavia: Ha ha when you gonna write to the docs? | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | when I get commit access | 08:52 |
| Burgundavia | I havent been able to catch elmo again | 08:52 |
| froud | did you send elmo your key again | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | I did | 08:53 |
| froud | I think you need to send enrico you new key and let him do it | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | once I get my machine booted at home I will do it | 08:54 |
| Burgundavia | moving my gf this weekend, should be fun | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | all right, night | 09:06 |
| froud | night | 09:07 |
| froud | rob^: patches applied :-) thanks | 09:44 |
| froud | bbl school run | 09:45 |
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| Liz | greetings froud | 11:12 |
| froud | ello Liz | 11:12 |
| froud | all good dwn there | 11:12 |
| mdke_ | morning everyone | 11:12 |
| froud | morn, its near afternoon, you just woke up? | 11:13 |
| mdke_ | not entirely | 11:18 |
| mdke_ | its 10 o clock here but I've been up for a while | 11:18 |
| Liz | its nearly 7.20pm here | 11:20 |
| Liz | sorry, got distracted by themovie | 11:21 |
| Liz | lilo and stitch..heh | 11:21 |
| mdke_ | awesome work on the faqguide rob^ | 11:28 |
| rob^ | mdke, thanks | 11:43 |
| Liz | bbtomorrow | 11:47 |
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| jjesse | morning everyone :) | 02:38 |
| froud-work | morn dude | 02:38 |
| froud-work | has anyone tried web-min on Ubuntu? | 02:38 |
| jjesse | its probablly afternoon for you froud? | 02:38 |
| froud-work | any suggestions other than web-min | 02:39 |
| jjesse | you have to enable root before you can use webmin | 02:39 |
| froud-work | yep noon | 02:39 |
| jjesse | webmin requires a first sign on to be root and from localhost not from another box | 02:39 |
| jjesse | so when i install it on my server w/o X installed i have to use lynx to sign on and allow other ip addresses | 02:40 |
| froud-work | you cant login using the browser on another host? | 02:40 |
| froud-work | or use ACLs | 02:41 |
| jjesse | i'm not a webmin expert i just know when it is installed the first time it only accepts connections localy | 02:41 |
| froud-work | Hmm, so you ssh in login with Lynx allow another IP-address rights then use that hosts web browser? | 02:42 |
| jjesse | yes | 02:42 |
| froud-work | why dont you just leave your hosts IP addres allowed? | 02:42 |
| froud-work | or wont it allow the login despite knowing the IP address | 02:43 |
| jjesse | hold on just setup a debian box checking how i did | 02:43 |
| jjesse | just did an apt-get install webmin on a debian (sarge) box | 02:44 |
| jjesse | and it setups webmin as only allow from listed addresses | 02:45 |
| jjesse | and the listed addresses are 127.0.0.1 | 02:45 |
| froud-work | yes | 02:45 |
| froud-work | add your host to th elist and you should be able to access from that hosts web browser and logon | 02:45 |
| jjesse | correct thats swhat i do | 02:46 |
| froud-work | of course you need apache to make it available | 02:46 |
| froud-work | and you can always secure the url with authentication | 02:46 |
| jjesse | correct | 02:47 |
| froud-work | so the user needs to logon twice | 02:47 |
| jjesse | but w/ webmin under ubuntu you need to enable root first | 02:47 |
| froud-work | jjesse: yes I expect it wont know what to do with sudo | 02:47 |
| froud-work | jjesse: have you tried any other tools like webmin | 02:48 |
| froud-work | jjesse: do any of them understand sudo | 02:48 |
| jjesse | froud i haven't had a chance to really | 02:48 |
| froud-work | :-) do what you know, no time for experiments :) | 02:48 |
| jjesse | well i do experiment w/ lots of stuff, just haven't branched out from webmin | 02:49 |
| jjesse | ls | 02:56 |
| jjesse | doh wrong window :) | 02:56 |
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| jsgotangco | salut | 06:05 |
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| jsgotangco | what's been happening lately in ubuntu-doc? | 06:06 |
| mdke | hey dude | 06:08 |
| mdke | :) | 06:09 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: you doing good? | 06:09 |
| mdke | yes i'm ok | 06:09 |
| mdke | you? | 06:09 |
| jsgotangco | well my laptop got busted today | 06:09 |
| mdke | bad news | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | i got myself a loaner but its running XP heh | 06:10 |
| mdke | guess you need a new one eh? | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | well Taiwan-made laptops really dont last long | 06:10 |
| mdke | haha | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | despite their great specs | 06:10 |
| mdke | well fingers crossed on getting one off Canonical | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | hehe i thought they gave those already? | 06:11 |
| mdke | dunno | 06:11 |
| mdke | not to me! | 06:11 |
| mdke | you neither huh? | 06:11 |
| mdke | i don't think they've given em tbh | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | jeezz xp fonts are really nice | 06:12 |
| === mdke slaps jsgotangco | ||
| jsgotangco | i tried running mIRC and i couldnt understand a thing | 06:13 |
| jsgotangco | so i just downloaded gaim for win | 06:13 |
| mdke | good call | 06:14 |
| jsgotangco | actually i dumped all the free software i can get for windows | 06:15 |
| mdke | :) | 06:15 |
| mdke | the open cd? | 06:15 |
| jsgotangco | the only non-free on this laptop is xp itself and PowerDVD | 06:15 |
| jsgotangco | yeah, open cd and some more | 06:16 |
| mdke | when I installed XP on my laptop recently I found some cool free stuff | 06:16 |
| mdke | clamwin | 06:16 |
| mdke | hahaha | 06:16 |
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| jsgotangco | haha | 06:17 |
| mdke | hahaha | 06:17 |
| mdke | anyhow as i was saying | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | pretty dumb exit key | 06:17 |
| mdke | clamwin | 06:17 |
| mdke | also some cool putty based scp stuff | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i have PuTTY | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | AbiWord | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | 7-zip | 06:18 |
| mdke | even whois for windows ;) | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | its really nice | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | ooohh | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm what's SILC? | 06:19 |
| mdke | no idea | 06:20 |
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| jsgotangco | JEEZZ | 06:21 |
| mdke | ;) | 06:21 |
| jsgotangco | the close button really closes gaim DUH | 06:21 |
| mdke | windows is intuitive like that | 06:22 |
| mdke | oh i see what you mean | 06:22 |
| mdke | instead of minimising it? | 06:22 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 06:22 |
| jsgotangco | really dumb for an IM | 06:22 |
| jsgotangco | grrr local politics here really suck | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | we don't deserve a democracy :) | 06:24 |
| mdke | they suck everywhere | 06:24 |
| mdke | i have to go out, supermarket | 06:25 |
| mdke | later mate | 06:25 |
| jsgotangco | later | 06:25 |
| jsgotangco | i gotta sleep too | 06:25 |
| jsgotangco | (12:25AM) | 06:25 |
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| jsgotangco | froud: hey what's up buddy | 07:36 |
| jsgotangco | oh well maybe later, good night anways its almost 2am | 07:41 |
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| Soneras | huhu, froud, you there? | 07:47 |
| froud | Soneras: hi | 07:49 |
| Soneras | ah, hi | 07:50 |
| Soneras | some questions | 07:50 |
| froud | sure | 07:50 |
| Soneras | when I do a change (like now with the screenshots) and do an svn up before I make the diff, wouldn't that overwrite my changes? | 07:51 |
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| froud | no | 07:52 |
| froud | svn up will merge changes into the xml instance | 07:52 |
| froud | this way you can chck for C (conflict) | 07:52 |
| froud | I am working in the Kubuntu System Settings section at present so, so long as you stay clear of that section we should not conflict | 07:53 |
| Soneras | ok, next one (wasn't clear to me yesterday): when I send my changes as a diff to you. can I keep working with my current xml before my patch goes into svn and then send you more changes (including the previous ones) and that would be ok? | 07:53 |
| froud | so hack the src and trust svn | 07:53 |
| Soneras | (haven't worked with any versioning system, thus the questions) | 07:54 |
| froud | better to finish your work session then patch | 07:54 |
| froud | wait for commit | 07:54 |
| froud | and svn up again before new session | 07:54 |
| Soneras | ok, thought small patches were better | 07:54 |
| froud | yes but when making changes of the nature you are doing now, the fewer the better | 07:55 |
| froud | however, if you are writing sections it is a good idea to patch small | 07:55 |
| Soneras | hmm. yes, that's why I ask . I'm finished with the layout shifting stuff and do consider o write a bit (if that's ok) | 07:56 |
| Soneras | sooo: when I change the actual docs (write some stuff, not just layout changes) you will review this (the english, writing layout) when I send you the patch? So I can basically edit, where I see fit? Adding some stuff, like more manual links and some more explanaitions (like kjobviewer and other one-sentence paragraphs). | 07:56 |
| froud | sure | 07:56 |
| Soneras | (sorry for the many questions) | 07:56 |
| froud | no questions are good | 07:57 |
| froud | just go ahead, scratch any itches you have and I will help | 07:57 |
| froud | Soneras: a few others work on kubuntu here. they are jjesse judax gtaylor mgalvin | 07:58 |
| Soneras | oh good, more people to annoy with questions ^^ | 07:59 |
| froud | hehe | 07:59 |
| jjesse | grin i only use kubuntu | 08:00 |
| jjesse | btw intereseting discussion on slashdot on the announcement about the ubuntu foundation | 08:00 |
| Soneras | something kubuntu related? :D | 08:00 |
| froud | url | 08:00 |
| judax | Kubuntu rocks! | 08:01 |
| froud | lol | 08:01 |
| Soneras | hey, I like this channel | 08:01 |
| jjesse | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/08/1240241&tid=163 | 08:01 |
| froud | konqueror your desktop with konqi | 08:01 |
| froud | sometimes we have kde vs. footprint wars ;-) | 08:02 |
| judax | hehe, I have been spending some time in 'footprint' lately | 08:02 |
| jjesse | gasp on purpose? | 08:02 |
| Soneras | well, as long as they are less ugly as they get on slashdot sometimes... ;) | 08:03 |
| froud | sabdfl is going for mass adoption now | 08:03 |
| judax | yeah, just messing around, but I can't handle naut at all so I am not there long | 08:03 |
| froud | critical mass that's how foss works | 08:03 |
| Soneras | yeah, nautiluts (even the browser mode) is somewhat lacking, isn't it? | 08:04 |
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| Soneras | froud: send you a patch - only the small layout changes. maybe I'll do some writing now (and the doc links). only system-settings is a no go at this time? | 08:06 |
| jjesse | i feel so far behind in my contributions to the kuserguide :( | 08:07 |
| judax | froud: are the kubuntu doc deb packages worked out yet? | 08:08 |
| froud | Soneras: yes, leave that section | 08:08 |
| froud | judax: yes, form tomorrow the name of the package is settled | 08:08 |
| froud | judax: we will be using kubuntu-docs_5.10-0.1 kubuntu-docs_5.10-0.2 kubuntu-docs_5.10-0.3 etc | 08:09 |
| froud | judax: then on release the number beocmes kubuntu-docs_5.10-1.0 | 08:09 |
| froud | judax: over the weekend kubuntu-docs is getting uploaded so we have a footprint in th edistro | 08:09 |
| judax | froud: ok, are they hosted at http://lnix.net/~froud? | 08:10 |
| mdke | are you putting po files in the upload package? | 08:10 |
| froud | judax: yes, each night, providing there are changes, there is an update of that url and the package is built | 08:10 |
| froud | mdke: no not yet | 08:10 |
| mdke | ah ok good | 08:10 |
| froud | mdke: thought we do that as per release schedule | 08:11 |
| mdke | :) | 08:11 |
| froud | right? | 08:11 |
| judax | froud: ok, cool | 08:11 |
| mdke | i agree yeah | 08:11 |
| froud | jjesse: yes you are way behind dude | 08:11 |
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| === froud pinches jjesse | ||
| jjesse | grin thanks froud i know i'm way way behind | 08:12 |
| jjesse | everyone else is writing so much more then me | 08:12 |
| froud | jjesse: my stratergy is to write one section a day | 08:12 |
| froud | jjesse: if I can do more I do | 08:12 |
| judax | jjesse: I need to finish doc specs and do some writing too, been busy with work lately | 08:12 |
| froud | judax: content in the docs take priority IMHO | 08:13 |
| froud | specs, nice to have | 08:13 |
| jjesse | froud any response on the whole kynaptic vs apt-get vs kapture debate? | 08:14 |
| judax | froud: agreed | 08:14 |
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| froud | jjesse: no, but as I learn things or notice them I add authorblurbs | 08:14 |
| froud | these are displayed in the reports | 08:14 |
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| froud | so if these is a change or I think something needs note I mention it | 08:15 |
| froud | speak of the devil | 08:15 |
| froud | here's mgalvin | 08:15 |
| mgalvin | howdy | 08:15 |
| froud | nearly all the Kubuntu team here tonight | 08:15 |
| mgalvin | whats up | 08:15 |
| froud | we're just discussing kubuntu docs | 08:16 |
| froud | mgalvin: news is that kubuntu-docs_5.10_0.1_all.deb will be uploaded this weekend | 08:16 |
| froud | so we have a footprint in the daily builds | 08:17 |
| mgalvin | cool | 08:17 |
| froud | mgalvin: hows work | 08:17 |
| froud | stuf working, getting funding | 08:17 |
| froud | jjesse: its good to authorblurb if you find or learn something | 08:19 |
| froud | is everybody cool with the way Kubuntu docs is working at present? | 08:20 |
| jjesse | yes i am cool :) | 08:21 |
| judax | yeah | 08:21 |
| jjesse | froud are you cool? | 08:21 |
| judax | were you referencing something more specific? | 08:21 |
| froud | yeah, I just tend to move ahead and forget that others are lost | 08:22 |
| froud | so just making sure | 08:22 |
| froud | I think the main thing to focus on now is the content | 08:22 |
| froud | outlines are there, make system and packaging system | 08:22 |
| froud | oh and preview system | 08:22 |
| mgalvin | froud, funding? for what | 08:22 |
| judax | I will certainly ask if I get too lost | 08:23 |
| froud | mgalvin: never mind :-) r you cool with the way kubuntu-docs is going | 08:23 |
| mdke | funding? | 08:23 |
| froud | mdke: never mind | 08:23 |
| mdke | too late for that now | 08:24 |
| froud | geeze mention money and everybody is here | 08:24 |
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| judax | froud said he was funding new laptops for the doc team | 08:24 |
| mgalvin | i just didn't know what you meant, i don't work where funding is needed | 08:24 |
| froud | mgalvin: no matter | 08:24 |
| mgalvin | yes, i'm cool with how kubuntu-docs is going :) | 08:25 |
| froud | ok | 08:25 |
| mdke | froud, its unusual of you to mention something then say "oh never mind" as if something secret is going on | 08:25 |
| mdke | its normal that people are gonna ask | 08:25 |
| froud | lol | 08:25 |
| froud | do the ppl working on kubuntu think that they can each contribute one sect a day between now and string freeze | 08:26 |
| jjesse | when is string freeze? | 08:27 |
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| mgalvin | that sounds resonable... what about the ubuntu docs (gnome focused)? since i use ubuntu, i will be contributing more of that content | 08:28 |
| judax | my issue will be that fact that I will be going on a 2-week vacation starting 7/16 and will be traveling | 08:29 |
| mdke | mgalvin, no strict rules about contributions on the ubuntu docs to my knowledge | 08:29 |
| froud | judax: ok can you do what you can? | 08:31 |
| judax | froud: you bet | 08:31 |
| froud | mdke: when is string freeze again? | 08:31 |
| froud | judax: just take one section a day and write it | 08:31 |
| mdke | 7th september iirc | 08:32 |
| froud | judax: big or small | 08:32 |
| mgalvin | svn commit access, argh :) | 08:34 |
| mdke | mgalvin, we've been bugging elmo, also I asked henrik to bug him about it | 08:34 |
| froud | jjesse: can you do a section a day? | 08:35 |
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| jjesse | i will try my hardest | 08:36 |
| froud | just for the record these are not strict rules | 08:37 |
| froud | just trying to get momentum on the work | 08:37 |
| froud | I find that if I do a section a day that it soon amounts to lots of work | 08:37 |
| froud | and the work becomes fun | 08:38 |
| froud | if I leave it then I find it hard to get started and going is slwo | 08:38 |
| froud | think it may be the same of others | 08:38 |
| jjesse | i thought work got fun when you got paid for it :P | 08:38 |
| froud | you want to get paid? | 08:39 |
| jjesse | grin nope just joking :) | 08:39 |
| froud | what country are you in again? | 08:39 |
| jjesse | us :) | 08:39 |
| froud | Ah yes | 08:39 |
| jjesse | i'm joking about getting paid to docs, trying be a smartass | 08:40 |
| froud | I know | 08:40 |
| judax | froud: sorry had to attend to work, I will try | 08:43 |
| froud | OK | 08:43 |
| froud | just do your best | 08:44 |
| froud | i figure if we each do a section a day that soon we will have completed a whole chunk of the work | 08:44 |
| froud | and we can start improving and tweaking | 08:44 |
| froud | splitting hairs and all that stuff | 08:45 |
| judax | one of our best storage architects just resigned, trying to put out fires | 08:45 |
| froud | yeah | 08:45 |
| froud | fires are nasty | 08:45 |
| judax | daily seems like | 08:46 |
| froud | judax: your in the us also right? | 08:46 |
| judax | yes, austin, texas | 08:47 |
| froud | and where is jjesse ? | 08:47 |
| froud | k | 08:49 |
| froud | Im back to work | 08:49 |
| judax | ok | 08:49 |
| mdke | ok i have wangled some webspace for ubuntu preview and status docs | 09:58 |
| mdke | thanks go to tseng | 09:58 |
| froud | cool | 09:58 |
| mdke | will build, upload and email later | 09:59 |
| mdke | bbl | 10:00 |
| mgalvin | i don't get it, all of my network speeds to ubuntu servers are at less then 5k/s, its taking forever to check out ubuntu-doc | 10:17 |
| froud | you still on breezy? | 10:18 |
| mgalvin | i just tried downloading the fedora iso to see if it me, i get 800k/s to their servers | 10:18 |
| mgalvin | yes | 10:18 |
| mgalvin | on breezy | 10:18 |
| froud | hmm I just did a deb build, it svn co from canonical at good spead | 10:19 |
| froud | speed | 10:19 |
| mgalvin | maybe a bad link btwn new york and your side of the globe | 10:20 |
| froud | I'm in co.za | 10:20 |
| froud | my traffic goes via new york | 10:20 |
| mgalvin | hmm | 10:21 |
| mgalvin | za goes thru the us, i didn't know that | 10:22 |
| froud | yeah, depends on your ISP | 10:22 |
| mdke | connects quite well here afaics | 10:23 |
| froud | mdke: the server is right next door to you ;-) | 10:23 |
| froud | mdke: cool on the web space | 10:24 |
| mdke | true and yeah | 10:24 |
| froud | beats waiting for people | 10:24 |
| froud | :-) | 10:24 |
| mdke | agreed | 10:24 |
| froud | lemme know if you need help with anything | 10:24 |
| mdke | i was already thinking of something ;) | 10:24 |
| mdke | i need to edit some files to include the gentoo address for the stylesheets | 10:25 |
| froud | I am mostly focusing on Kubuntu, but I dont want to see Ubuntu suffer for no good reason | 10:25 |
| mdke | can you tell me which files I need to edit? | 10:25 |
| froud | the xsl's in libs/ | 10:25 |
| mdke | all of em? | 10:26 |
| froud | no, just a sec lemme see | 10:26 |
| froud | why you working on gentoo anyways | 10:26 |
| froud | that thing is only good for servers | 10:27 |
| mdke | hmm i wouldnt run it on a server ;) | 10:28 |
| mdke | its fun to play with tho | 10:28 |
| froud | no gentoo on server is good | 10:28 |
| mdke | right now my laptop is at the menders | 10:28 |
| mdke | it will be back next week but right now i need to use gentoo | 10:28 |
| froud | ok looks like jeffsch has the make system for ubuntu working from gnome/Makefile | 10:29 |
| froud | in Makefile you need to change | 10:29 |
| froud | else | 10:29 |
| froud | # SuSE | 10:29 |
| froud | NWDBXSL=/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/html/docbook.xsl | 10:29 |
| froud | endif | 10:29 |
| mdke | you adapted the stylesheet address for suse too right? I could just add it underneath | 10:29 |
| froud | no you need to replace | 10:30 |
| froud | or do an elseif | 10:30 |
| froud | just replace | 10:30 |
| mdke | ok | 10:30 |
| froud | then see gnome/libs/gnome-ubuntu.xsl | 10:31 |
| froud | change the import | 10:31 |
| froud | <xsl:import href="/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/html/profile-chunk.xsl"/> | 10:31 |
| froud | do you build styleguide? | 10:32 |
| mdke | i'll build anything | 10:32 |
| froud | then do the same in libs/style-guide-html.xsl | 10:32 |
| mdke | right | 10:32 |
| froud | that's it I think | 10:33 |
| mdke | now i just need to find the right address | 10:33 |
| froud | address? | 10:33 |
| mdke | for gentoo stylesheets | 10:33 |
| froud | Ah should be under the same area | 10:34 |
| froud | but may use current/ | 10:34 |
| froud | here somewhere /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/current/ | 10:34 |
| mdke | /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets-1.68.1/html/profile-chunk.xsl | 10:34 |
| mdke | ?? | 10:34 |
| froud | yes those are the old paths | 10:35 |
| froud | do you have the new ones | 10:35 |
| mdke | those are the only files called profile-chunk.xsl | 10:35 |
| froud | then gentoo still uses the old path | 10:35 |
| froud | cool | 10:35 |
| froud | Updated http://www.lnix.net/~froud/ | 10:36 |
| jeffsch | http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~jeffsch/writing/styleguide/index.html | 10:38 |
| jeffsch | style guide previews | 10:38 |
| froud | cool jeffsch | 10:38 |
| mdke | jeffsch, if you like I can put them on tseng's webspace, your call | 10:38 |
| jeffsch | doh! I just spent the morning setting it up... | 10:38 |
| jeffsch | but i will keep it for now | 10:39 |
| mdke | no problem if we leave it there | 10:39 |
| froud | he he | 10:39 |
| jeffsch | if my isp complains about traffice, then I will go to tseng | 10:39 |
| mdke | i'll just upload the gnome things then | 10:39 |
| froud | yep, good idea | 10:39 |
| mdke | hmm | 10:42 |
| mdke | some issues building | 10:42 |
| mdke | I get a lot of "No localization exists for "c" or "". Using default "en"." Is that bad? | 10:42 |
| mdke | by a lot, I mean a lot | 10:42 |
| mdke | (am doing make all) | 10:43 |
| froud | normal and wanted | 10:43 |
| froud | :-) | 10:43 |
| mdke | ah | 10:43 |
| mdke | it fails at about-ubuntu | 10:43 |
| mdke | i need to edit /libs/about-ubuntu-html-cust.xml i think | 10:43 |
| mdke | that one is built separately? | 10:45 |
| mdke | i edited that one, now "make all" has stopped at faqppc | 10:52 |
| mdke | Complete. Find outputs at ../build/gnome/faqppc/ | 10:52 |
| mdke | (arg: 2) | 10:52 |
| mdke | it wants me to tell it something? | 10:52 |
| froud | huh | 10:52 |
| mdke | i pressed return and it returned me to the prompt | 10:53 |
| mdke | dunno what that (arg: 2) means | 10:53 |
| froud | when it says that then it should be finished | 10:54 |
| mdke | ok it looked like it was finished | 10:54 |
| mdke | has it built status reports too? | 10:55 |
| jeffsch | mdke: are the files in build/gnome/gaqppc? | 10:55 |
| mdke | looks like it | 10:55 |
| froud | chaps I must call it a night | 10:55 |
| mdke | ok thanks for your help froud | 10:56 |
| froud | mdke: nice one on the webspace | 10:56 |
| jeffsch | later dude | 10:56 |
| mgalvin | gnight froud | 10:56 |
| froud | jeffsch: nice one on the style guide | 10:56 |
| mdke | jeffsch, has "make all" updated the things in build/status for me? | 10:56 |
| jeffsch | hold on, i'll take a look at the makefile | 10:56 |
| froud | look forward to seeing ubuntu-docs_5.10-0.1_all.deb hitting the nightly builds | 10:57 |
| mdke | heh | 10:57 |
| mdke | i'm uploading | 10:58 |
| mdke | its 31MB so it will be a short while | 10:58 |
| froud | have you optimized | 11:00 |
| mdke | i haven't done anything | 11:01 |
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| jeffsch | mdke: build/status is updated when you do make all | 11:08 |
| mdke | jeffsch, rock! | 11:08 |
| mdke | ok its nearly done uploading | 11:08 |
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| mdke | jeffsch, now all we need to do is make a package ;) | 11:11 |
| mdke | what was that froud said about optimising? | 11:12 |
| jeffsch | i have no idea | 11:13 |
| mdke | must have been a way to make images smaller | 11:13 |
| mdke | http://tseng2.ath.cx/~ubuntu-doc/ | 11:15 |
| mdke | i'll update the wiki | 11:15 |
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| jeffsch | awesome man. and it works too! | 11:17 |
| mdke | :) | 11:20 |
| mdke | thanks for all your work on the build docs | 11:20 |
| jeffsch | anh, twernt nuthin :) | 11:22 |
| mdke | hmm | 11:22 |
| mdke | no faqguide status | 11:22 |
| jeffsch | faqguide status is not in makefile | 11:23 |
| jeffsch | hold on a sec, i'll add it. | 11:24 |
| jeffsch | mdke: add gnome/default.css to http://tseng2.ath.cx/~ubuntu-doc/ | 11:28 |
| mdke | ok will do that | 11:33 |
| mdke | wiki page should be sorted now | 11:35 |
| jeffsch | ok. svn up and try "make status" | 11:36 |
| mdke | i ought to set up an rsync cron job to do some automatic upload | 11:37 |
| mdke | s | 11:37 |
| jeffsch | when you do, lemme know so i can copy it | 11:38 |
| jeffsch | i know nothing about that stuff | 11:38 |
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| mdke | jeffsch, ok css is there | 11:39 |
| jeffsch | awesome | 11:40 |
| mdke | jeffsch, can we get default.css in build/gnome/? | 11:40 |
| mdke | actually maybe unnecessary | 11:41 |
| jeffsch | i have a default.css in my build/gnome | 11:41 |
| mdke | not me | 11:42 |
| mdke | i uploaded the whole folder | 11:42 |
| jeffsch | hmm... i must have put it there myself. I don't remember doing it, but that's not surprising! | 11:43 |
| mdke | ;) | 11:43 |
| jeffsch | oh wait! it's put there when you build the style guide, so if you didn't build the styleguide, then it won't be there | 11:44 |
| jeffsch | i can change that though, if you want, so that it always goes there | 11:44 |
| jeffsch | you can do it yourself if you want... see the lines | 11:45 |
| jeffsch | # copy style sheet to build directory | 11:46 |
| jeffsch | cp default.css ../build/gnome/default.css | 11:46 |
| jeffsch | in the makefile? | 11:46 |
| mdke | i will look | 11:48 |
| jeffsch | never mind... I'm testing it now... | 11:48 |
| mdke | i guess we will need it for the proper css when we build the final files | 11:48 |
| mdke | ok I am experimenting with rsync | 11:48 |
| mdke | doesn't look like it will work on tseng's server | 11:48 |
| mdke | jeffsch, here is a guide on how to do it though http://www.jdmz.net/ssh/ | 11:53 |
| mdke | ah cool it works for tseng's server too | 12:00 |
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