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dmk | hi all, I have been trying to build a few deb packages but I am not sure if I have done them right | 01:00 |
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dmk | is there anywhere/way I can check them | 01:00 |
dmk | they install fine, but just wanted to be sure | 01:01 |
dmk | when I was doing packages for Slackware we used to have a script that verified everything | 01:01 |
dmk | thanks in advance | 01:01 |
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jsgotangco | salut | 02:44 |
tseng | hi over here | 02:44 |
jsgotangco | hey tseng | 02:44 |
jsgotangco | thanks for the hosting of the docs for the meantime | 02:45 |
tseng | no problem dude | 02:45 |
jsgotangco | we're going to put them all in one place once we get the server from linode | 02:45 |
tseng | yep | 02:46 |
tseng | actually, you are on a server from linode now :) | 02:46 |
jsgotangco | oohh | 02:46 |
tseng | but its a top secret xen beta host | 02:46 |
tseng | shh | 02:46 |
jsgotangco | lol | 02:46 |
tseng | i feel AWFUL | 02:46 |
jsgotangco | hmm? | 02:47 |
tseng | i totally gorged myself two days in a row | 02:47 |
jsgotangco | haha | 02:47 |
tseng | yesterday a vendor took us to lunch at the fanciest place we could find | 02:47 |
tseng | today we went to a fancy texmex place, my fajitas were gigantic | 02:48 |
tseng | i have a problem leaving food behind :/ | 02:48 |
jsgotangco | heh well i can't say the same for myself, i'm with a client right now helping them with their Oracle | 02:48 |
jsgotangco | their cafeteria is dead nasty | 02:48 |
tseng | we get vendors for all they're worth | 02:49 |
jsgotangco | and my bad luck hasn't even started yet my laptop just died yesterday | 02:49 |
jsgotangco | but they gave me a loaner now which im using | 02:49 |
tseng | :/ | 02:49 |
jsgotangco | they told me i can get it later | 02:50 |
tseng | its friday night here | 02:50 |
jsgotangco | ah its already saturday here almost 9am | 02:50 |
tseng | bummer | 02:50 |
jsgotangco | well i'll come back later im having allegies using gaim on windows | 02:51 |
tseng | yuck | 02:51 |
jsgotangco | gotta take a bath | 02:51 |
jsgotangco | tseng: yeah | 02:51 |
tseng | :P | 02:51 |
jsgotangco | later dude | 02:51 |
tseng | cya | 02:51 |
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seth_k | @#%@ turned off my away message on the desktop but not the laptop | 07:38 |
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sivang | howdy all | 10:37 |
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Treenaks | hey sivang | 10:58 |
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tseng | does anyone recall what language the hula web interface is? | 12:12 |
jesper | tseng: Are you using Hula? | 12:12 |
tseng | no. | 12:12 |
tseng | or i would just look at it :) | 12:12 |
tseng | i guess it must be embedded in the hula server | 12:14 |
tseng | the interpreter | 12:14 |
tseng | i cant imagine they wrote a modern webapp in C | 12:15 |
JanC | seems like they use a templating engine of some sorts: | 12:16 |
JanC | http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/svn/svnbrowse.php?uri=filedetails.php%3Frepname%3Dhula%26path%3D%252Ftrunk%252Fhula%252Fsrc%252Ftemplates%252Faurora%252Ffolder.htt%26rev%3D0%26sc%3D0 | 12:16 |
tseng | hm yes | 12:16 |
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DanielN | :) | 12:54 |
comadreja | howdy all | 12:54 |
DanielN | hi comadreja | 12:54 |
comadreja | hello DanielN :) | 12:55 |
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sivang | howdy all | 01:06 |
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Mez | siretart: did ogra ever reply about rebuild pacakges? | 02:11 |
siretart | Mez: I've been thinking about it, and come to the conclusion that uploading with an -XbuiltN version scheme would be best in this case | 02:12 |
Mez | .? | 02:12 |
Mez | ?? | 02:12 |
siretart | well, the version in breezy is 1.1-3, I think we should reupload it with version 1.1-3build1. | 02:13 |
siretart | I've seen some uploads from doko and ogra with this scheme | 02:13 |
Mez | have you ? | 02:13 |
Mez | *Shrugs* | 02:13 |
siretart | ogra: can you comment on this? | 02:13 |
siretart | yeah, wait | 02:13 |
Mez | wont that screw up when you like do 1.1-3ubuntu1 | 02:14 |
Mez | oh, no cause it's classed as a higher version | 02:14 |
Mez | do any MOTU know how to search for things that depend on a certain version of something? | 02:15 |
Mez | as for some reason half of the backports depend on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) | 02:15 |
Mez | which it shoultn | 02:15 |
ogra | siretart, Mez, you do that if its only a recompile without changes... that leaves the package upgradeable since the archouve scrits only react on ubuntuX | 02:15 |
ogra | archive scripts | 02:16 |
Mez | cool... well... can I poke you towards a few that need rebuilding | 02:16 |
siretart | ogra: yes. this is the case for us | 02:16 |
ogra | so call it buildX | 02:16 |
siretart | ok | 02:16 |
Mez | mail-notification, epiphany, frozen-bubble | 02:17 |
ogra | before you touch epiphany, talk to seb128 | 02:17 |
Mez | oh, cool so I'll just poke them into revu then ? | 02:18 |
Mez | with the right version numbers | 02:19 |
siretart | Mez: I'm on mail-notification right know, go for frozen-bubble | 02:19 |
siretart | Mez: frozen-bubble needed and dependency rebuilt, I uploaded it yesterday evening. I hope it already reached your mirror | 02:19 |
Mez | siretart, will do once I've rebuilt firefox for backports | 02:19 |
tseng | we are still backporting firefox? | 02:20 |
siretart | Mez: btw, did you try to rebuilt networkmanager for hoary? | 02:20 |
Mez | I'm backporting it to fix the shitty dependencies | 02:20 |
Mez | siretart - no | 02:20 |
siretart | ok | 02:20 |
Mez | tseng: the current backport depends on a newer version of libgcc1 which it shouldnt | 02:21 |
Mez | and siretart - why | 02:21 |
siretart | Mez: I was thinking about doing it myself for my notebook | 02:21 |
Mez | siretart - I'll put it on my list | 02:22 |
siretart | I cannot upgrade to breezy right now, because I need restricted modules | 02:22 |
siretart | Mez: thanks! but don't loose too much time on it, I think that could be really tricky | 02:22 |
Mez | siretart - I wont ... but if it's apain in the ass - I'll shove the changes abck for breezy | 02:23 |
Mez | what's the pacakge name? | 02:24 |
Mez | nvm | 02:24 |
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siretart | Mez: its called network-manager | 02:26 |
Mez | gotit :D | 02:26 |
ogra | huh, you want to backport NM ??? | 02:26 |
siretart | ogra: I was only thinking trying it get it built on hoary | 02:27 |
siretart | I did not mean to request a backport ;) | 02:28 |
Mez | lol :D | 02:28 |
ogra | guys thats crazy... it needs functions from the breezy libc afaik | 02:28 |
ogra | and its not even working right on breezy | 02:28 |
Mez | ogra :D we'll see if it builds first :D | 02:28 |
ogra | i would wait until its half way finished | 02:28 |
siretart | ah, ok. thanks for the cluebat | 02:28 |
ogra | before even trying to backport | 02:28 |
siretart | ogra: do you know whats the status about restricted modules? | 02:29 |
jsgotangco | hey all | 02:29 |
Hieronymus | hi | 02:29 |
tseng | hi jsgotangco | 02:29 |
ogra | its planned soon... but daniels is still busy with X afaik | 02:29 |
Mez | well ogra, for now I can fix a couple of problems that it'll hit when backporting | 02:29 |
siretart | great! :) | 02:29 |
Mez | like dbus-glib-1-dev -> libdbus-glib-1-dev change | 02:29 |
jsgotangco | why are you guys talking about work on a fine satuday morning/evening? *grin* | 02:30 |
Mez | lol | 02:30 |
tseng | yeah its cartoon time | 02:30 |
Mez | cause we dont have lives | 02:30 |
jsgotangco | i just watched Fantastic 4 | 02:30 |
ogra | jsgotangco, because my GF wouldnt understand if i suddenly had time i could spend with her :) | 02:31 |
jsgotangco | nyahahaha | 02:31 |
tseng | masters of the universe is out on DVD | 02:31 |
tseng | speaking of cartoons | 02:31 |
ogra | heh | 02:31 |
jsgotangco | the old one? | 02:32 |
jsgotangco | jeezz i used to have a lot of skeletor stuff | 02:32 |
tseng | ya | 02:32 |
tseng | i had heman and his glider | 02:32 |
tseng | and some monsters | 02:32 |
jsgotangco | do you remember she-ra | 02:33 |
jsgotangco | that bastard spin off | 02:33 |
tseng | yes | 02:33 |
jsgotangco | did you watch the movie that had dolph lundgren heh | 02:34 |
tseng | no | 02:34 |
jsgotangco | i was a sucker for all antagonists back then | 02:35 |
jsgotangco | never bought the heroes at all | 02:35 |
Treenaks | antagonists rock | 02:36 |
jsgotangco | indeed | 02:36 |
jsgotangco | even in classic WWF hehe | 02:37 |
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\sh | morning | 02:52 |
jsgotangco | hi | 02:53 |
siretart | hi \sh | 02:54 |
\sh | damn...only after a new install you know how many things you installed to get your system ready for working :( | 02:54 |
\sh | and now fixing wine | 03:00 |
Hieronymus | wine doesn't work with Breezy | 03:01 |
Treenaks | Hieronymus: yes, and it's Dependency Hell around there | 03:01 |
Hieronymus | torcs doesn't either, I just found out | 03:01 |
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\sh | that's the point...fixin b-d and deps first, and then let's see | 03:02 |
\sh | and I need something like ion3 with kde support to have all my shells in one window | 03:03 |
jsgotangco | ohh an Ion user as well | 03:04 |
\sh | not now...but it looks promising if ion3 supports some stuff to work nicely together with kde or gnome | 03:04 |
jsgotangco | i still find Ion3 too slow | 03:05 |
jsgotangco | is anyone aware of an official tux racer arcade game cabinet? | 03:08 |
jsgotangco | because i was in the arcades today and i saw one | 03:08 |
tseng | yes | 03:09 |
jsgotangco | ohh | 03:09 |
Hieronymus | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1324 | 03:13 |
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siretart | cu folks! | 03:41 |
siretart | gotta leave. cu tomorrow | 03:41 |
\sh | grmpf...wine ftbfs and bugzilla.redhat.com is down | 03:42 |
ogra | \sh, its likely we'll take the packages from winehq in the future... try them | 03:43 |
\sh | hmm...ok...trying actual release of winehq | 03:46 |
\sh | we should get mutt-ng in universe at least...it's rocking | 03:50 |
\sh | hmm...and xfs fs is not faster then reiserfs on a laptop | 03:59 |
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ivoks | hi all | 04:18 |
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DanielN | \sh, ping | 04:47 |
\sh | DanielN: pong | 04:48 |
DanielN | \sh, could you take a look at yehia pls? it FTBS and i'm stuck in fixing that :/ | 04:49 |
\sh | DanielN: I'm preparing all this for this weekend..:( I have a lot of todos on my list :( | 04:50 |
ivoks | :) | 04:50 |
ivoks | i hope wifi-radar is on that list :) | 04:50 |
DanielN | \sh, uhh... sounds heavi ;> | 04:50 |
ivoks | DanielN: i have couple of minutes now | 04:50 |
DanielN | but thanks | 04:50 |
ivoks | maybe i could help you | 04:50 |
DanielN | ivoks, just get source (yehia) and pbuild it.. | 04:51 |
ivoks | wher is it? | 04:51 |
DanielN | no idea about the error shown | 04:51 |
DanielN | ivoks, in the archive | 04:51 |
DanielN | i said i'm stuck ;) | 04:51 |
ivoks | archive?! FTBS and in archive? | 04:51 |
DanielN | with gcc4 | 04:51 |
DanielN | ! | 04:51 |
ivoks | uh | 04:51 |
\sh | DanielN: u have a log from your build? can u publish it somewhere? | 04:52 |
ivoks | that would be nice, yes | 04:53 |
ivoks | \sh: i could take care of this, if that's ok with you? | 04:53 |
\sh | ivoks: please :) any work removed from my list, is a good work ,-) | 04:54 |
ivoks | :) | 04:54 |
ivoks | uh... no time for pbuilder now... i'll check it with gcc-4 | 04:54 |
DanielN | argh | 04:54 |
DanielN | where are these logs going? | 04:55 |
\sh | DanielN: pbuilder build <package>.dsc &> build.log | 04:55 |
ivoks | DanielN: source changed by Stephen Shirley <diamond@nonado.net>\ | 04:55 |
ivoks | where are you in this picture? | 04:56 |
\sh | ivoks: he wanted to build it and change it for cxx | 04:56 |
ivoks | ah, ok | 04:56 |
\sh | ivoks: so there is no upload right now from daniel | 04:56 |
ivoks | ok | 04:56 |
DanielN | :> | 04:56 |
DanielN | as i forgot the meeting again :/ | 04:56 |
ivoks | what meeting? | 04:57 |
DanielN | techb | 04:57 |
ivoks | hm, when was it? | 04:57 |
DanielN | last tuesday i think? | 04:57 |
ivoks | that was one with koffice/ooffice debate? | 04:58 |
\sh | last tuesday was CC, next week is TB again I think | 04:58 |
DanielN | don't know | 04:58 |
DanielN | ahh | 04:58 |
DanielN | yep.. | 04:58 |
ivoks | ok... | 04:58 |
ivoks | build faild | 04:58 |
DanielN | void something | 04:59 |
DanielN | ... | 04:59 |
ivoks | destructor problem | 04:59 |
\sh | what? | 04:59 |
\sh | logs | 04:59 |
ivoks | warning: 'class Yehia::Script::Namespace' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor | 04:59 |
DanielN | :> | 04:59 |
\sh | we need to get the virtserver fuer revu | 04:59 |
\sh | warning | 05:00 |
ivoks | yes, error is something else | 05:00 |
\sh | there must an error | 05:00 |
\sh | +be | 05:00 |
ivoks | error: 'node' was not declared in this scope | 05:00 |
\sh | aha | 05:00 |
\sh | check the file...what is node... | 05:00 |
\sh | this is really a small one I think | 05:00 |
DanielN | ahh | 05:01 |
DanielN | sorry guys | 05:01 |
DanielN | yeah.. this one i fixed already | 05:01 |
DanielN | but there's another after this one | 05:01 |
ivoks | ok... | 05:01 |
DanielN | wait i'll build it | 05:01 |
ivoks | ivalid use of void? | 05:01 |
DanielN | yeah.. something like that | 05:01 |
ivoks | paste.. | 05:02 |
ivoks | 3 lines | 05:02 |
ivoks | void erase(iterator start, iterator end) { | 05:02 |
ivoks | for (iterator it = start; it != end; ++it) | 05:02 |
ivoks | G_Node<T>(g_node_unlink(it.node)); } | 05:02 |
DanielN | yep this one it is | 05:03 |
\sh | hmm...getting the source... | 05:04 |
\sh | what was the name of source again? | 05:04 |
ivoks | messy code | 05:04 |
ivoks | yehia | 05:04 |
DanielN | yehia | 05:04 |
\sh | ivoks: sourcefile? | 05:05 |
ivoks | yehia/node.h | 05:05 |
ivoks | line 96 | 05:05 |
ivoks | bbl | 05:07 |
\sh | *shiver* templates and overloaded methods | 05:07 |
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comadreja | hey, what does this mean ? | 05:09 |
comadreja | Candidates That Have Been Covered in Previous CC Meetings - need to show up | 05:10 |
comadreja | * | 05:10 |
comadreja | the need to show up | 05:10 |
tseng | that means that they were on the agenda and didnt show up | 05:10 |
tseng | they need to come back | 05:10 |
DanielN | :) | 05:10 |
tseng | or take themselves off the list | 05:10 |
tseng | some people have been there for some time | 05:11 |
comadreja | and where do you have to show up ? :D | 05:11 |
tseng | uh, in the channel at the scheduled meeting time | 05:11 |
tseng | as mentioned on the agenda | 05:11 |
comadreja | oh, yes, I c | 05:11 |
\sh | hmmm... | 05:14 |
\sh | no bug reports at all for this | 05:14 |
DanielN | \sh, yeah.. i know | 05:14 |
\sh | and i doesn't look very active | 05:15 |
\sh | hmm..let me finish up with wine here | 05:17 |
\sh | *grmpf* | 05:21 |
Hieronymus | \sh: what are you doing with wine? | 05:21 |
\sh | Hieronymus: I'm building the new upstream version :) | 05:22 |
\sh | and some dirs and files moved | 05:22 |
\sh | so...third pbuilder try | 05:23 |
Hieronymus | it's not working right now, \sh | 05:23 |
Hieronymus | xlibmesa-glu :( | 05:24 |
\sh | Hieronymus: I fixed this already | 05:24 |
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\sh | Hieronymus: it's only a build-deb thingy..easy to resolv | 05:26 |
Hieronymus | \sh: how? It still gives me an error | 05:26 |
Nafallo | Hieronymus: I belive \sh haven't uploaded yet... | 05:27 |
Hieronymus | okay. It's just that it breaks a lot of packages | 05:28 |
Hieronymus | which eh... sucks | 05:28 |
siretart | Hieronymus: replace build dep xlibmesa-glu-dev with libglu-dev-xorg | 05:29 |
Hieronymus | I really wouldn't know how to | 05:30 |
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\sh | Hieronymus: wine-0.0.200505xx ftbfs | 05:32 |
\sh | wine-0.0.20050628 not but it breaks some rules | 05:32 |
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sivang | anybody an idea? I tried installing pbuilder: | 06:33 |
sivang | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 06:33 |
sivang | udev: Depends: libselinux1 (>= 1.24) but it is not installed | 06:33 |
sivang | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. | 06:33 |
sivang | -> Aborting with an error | 06:33 |
sivang | how do I install -f inside pbuilder, better how do I chroot into it? | 06:34 |
sivang | siretart: ping | 06:35 |
Lathiat | sivang: theres a pbuildr command to drop you into a shell for manual surgery | 06:35 |
sivang | Lathiat: what'd be the commmand ? :-) | 06:35 |
Lathiat | man pbuilder ;p | 06:36 |
Lathiat | i forget | 06:36 |
sivang | Lathiat: no prob buddy, thanks | 06:36 |
sivang | Lathiat: btw, I see you alot around gnome channels, you a gnome dev? | 06:36 |
Lathiat | sivang: not really, few patches here and there | 06:36 |
sivang | Lathiat: cool, just like me, what programs? | 06:36 |
Lathiat | evolution was the thing i did the most on | 06:36 |
siretart | sivang: pong | 06:36 |
Lathiat | i have like a 5000 line patch for calenda rpublishign from a year ago i never finished | 06:36 |
sivang | siretart: I already got the answer :-) man pbuilder ;-) | 06:37 |
siretart | great :) | 06:37 |
sivang | siretart: thanks fore responding , though | 06:37 |
sivang | siretart: btw, I want to help with the Xorg modularization transaction, I need to do some motu as I'm aspiring to upload to main | 06:37 |
sivang | siretart: dhloback suggested it would me a good way to get back in :-) | 06:38 |
Lathiat | 'hack in' ? | 06:38 |
Lathiat | erg, back | 06:38 |
siretart | uuuh. sounds great :) | 06:38 |
sivang | siretart: (I was very active once before I started a a day job) | 06:38 |
sivang | I wonder if anybody here recall me | 06:38 |
Lathiat | your nick is familiar | 06:38 |
sivang | Lathiat: I lurk alot around #g-h, #g-l etc.. | 06:39 |
siretart | sivang: I think I remember you. that was about 6 months ago, right? | 06:39 |
Lathiat | sivang: yeh maybe its g-h i recognize you from | 06:39 |
Lathiat | i need to fix bzflag | 06:39 |
Lathiat | now that i have mjy breezy install back i can do it | 06:39 |
Lathiat | stupid Xorg crap ;p | 06:39 |
sivang | siretart: actually, I stopped being daily active around 1,2 april | 06:39 |
siretart | ah | 06:40 |
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sivang | siretart: no it's ok | 06:40 |
sivang | siretart: I saw revu , pretty cool , how do you operate it? | 06:40 |
siretart | sivang: do you think you could create a list of packages which need to be fixed because of this libglu-dev-xorg madness? | 06:40 |
siretart | sivang: ah, thanks. | 06:41 |
Lathiat | ooh, i think thats the problem bzflag had | 06:41 |
siretart | sivang: revu is written with mod-python, apache2 and postgres | 06:41 |
sivang | siretart: nice, postgres is awesome | 06:41 |
tseng | people keep saying taht | 06:41 |
Lathiat | i never liked it | 06:42 |
Lathiat | im a mysql fanboy | 06:42 |
Lathiat | for random php applications, it works good | 06:42 |
sivang | tseng: it's true brandon, mysql keeps me angry each time I try set it up | 06:42 |
tseng | yep | 06:42 |
Lathiat | never needed no extra performance, or real utf8, or some crpa | 06:42 |
siretart | Lathiat: yes. I uploaded sdlperl a few hours ago, got built on all architectures. It seems that libglu-dev-xorg depends on both glu and gl libraries | 06:42 |
sivang | Lathiat: hey, you work with PHP ? | 06:42 |
tseng | uh oh | 06:42 |
sivang | tseng: hehe | 06:42 |
sivang | no I won't start | 06:42 |
sivang | :-) | 06:42 |
tseng | :-( | 06:42 |
tseng | :-) | 06:42 |
Lathiat | sivang: yeh | 06:43 |
tseng | my stuff in mysql returns 1000 rows in 00. | 06:43 |
tseng | .008 seconds | 06:43 |
sivang | Lathiat: if you're interested in something, and you work on traditional server system environment , let me know | 06:43 |
tseng | im not sure it needs to be faster :) | 06:44 |
Lathiat | sivang: what you got in mind? | 06:44 |
siretart | sivang: you know how to use revu? we could use more reviewers ;) | 06:44 |
sivang | siretart: well, not really, I figured I'd ask you , and well, get some info about what needs be done on this X modularization transaction | 06:44 |
sivang | siretart: I also need to know what it's all about, where can I read about it? | 06:45 |
siretart | sivang: the basic problem was, that I didn't like doing reviewing stuff in the wiki. so I've written revu for replacing these pages | 06:45 |
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siretart | sivang: basically everyone can upload who sends me his gpg key, all uploaders for universe have been imported | 06:46 |
sivang | siretart: you're the head of universe now? | 06:47 |
siretart | sivang: login is your email (the one in the Changed-By: field of the .changes file), account is created with first upload (use recover link, should work again) | 06:47 |
siretart | sivang: nono! I'm just a humble motu ;) | 06:47 |
siretart | sivang: head of universe are dholbach and ogra | 06:47 |
Mez | siretart - that frozen-bubble was just a retard :D can you shove it up :D | 06:47 |
sivang | siretart: well, at least you're administrating the universe :-) | 06:48 |
siretart | Mez: huh? no upload necssary? | 06:48 |
Mez | siretart - frozen bubble means rebuilding | 06:48 |
siretart | sivang: not even, just writing a little helper tool to attract more potential motus ;) | 06:48 |
Mez | menas it needs a new XbuildY | 06:48 |
Mez | :D | 06:48 |
Mez | as shoved into REVU | 06:48 |
siretart | Mez: just rebuilding? sounds great :) | 06:48 |
Mez | well once the other stuff went through | 06:49 |
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Mez | kk | 06:49 |
sivang | siretart: but before that, I need to know what's happend with xorg that we need to do all this work, and how to test packages | 06:49 |
Lathiat | night all | 06:50 |
siretart | sivang: well. I'm not really sure about the details, but as far as I understood it, the libmesa-gl* package are obsoleted by lib{gl,glu}-dev and packages providing them | 06:51 |
siretart | sivang: in many cases it seems that changes these build dependencies to libglu-dev-xorg works | 06:51 |
siretart | s/changes/changing/ | 06:51 |
sivang | siretart: I see , sounds pretty easy | 06:52 |
siretart | sivang: packages can be tested quite well in an updated breezy pbuilder | 06:52 |
siretart | the problem is, that sbuild on the autobuilders have an other build dependency resolution algorithm, which seems to be a bit more picky than pbuilder-satisfybuilddepends.pl | 06:53 |
sivang | siretart: I see, so how you solve this problem? | 06:54 |
siretart | sivang: well, I don't see a really good solution, but usually, when I get an package built in pbuilder, I upload it | 06:55 |
siretart | sivang: if it fails to build, you can look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ and look for the buildlog of the package | 06:56 |
seth_k | siretart: revu is for all packages to review, updated and rebuilt and new? Or just new ones :) | 06:56 |
siretart | normally the buildlog from sbuild gives enough information to fix the remaining dependency issues | 06:56 |
siretart | seth_k: I consider revu as a launchpad for your motu carreer ;) - basically I think it should be used for any uploads | 06:57 |
seth_k | siretart: woot, /me goes over to revu and finds the link to send you his gpg key | 06:58 |
siretart | seth_k: in fact, updated packages (uploads without the lamp) should get uploaded more quickly, because only one advocate is needed (for NEW ones, we require 3 advocates). Any uploader to universe may advocate | 06:58 |
seth_k | siretart: that should make it a lot easier for me to push updated packages over, i always was hunting for someone to bother (ask) | 06:58 |
seth_k | thanks much :) | 06:58 |
siretart | seth_k: please upload only packages to revu that you think should be uploaded to ubuntu "as is". (think of uploading upload candidates) | 06:59 |
seth_k | yes, I understand. Final packages, ready-to-submit | 06:59 |
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siretart | revu2 will name "uploads" "candidates" | 06:59 |
sivang | siretart: I upload into revu? I'm confused | 07:00 |
siretart | sivang: on the top there is a link to the wiki page giving instructions how to configure dput to upload to revu | 07:01 |
seth_k | final question: since auto-importing from debian is frozen, should any updated packages we want in universe (e.g., backports people are screaming for gdesklets 0.35 to enter breezy), I should submit that to revu? Or will universe updates still occur automatically and I shouldn't worry about it | 07:01 |
\sh | seth_k: universe is not frozen, only syncing...but ping elmo to sync whatever universe package u want to have..there is a wiki page for elmos info... | 07:02 |
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siretart | MOTUToSync | 07:02 |
siretart | I think | 07:02 |
sivang | siretart: so nobody uploads to straight canonical server anymore for universe? | 07:03 |
siretart | err, huh? | 07:03 |
seth_k | got it, but that's only for packages that get imported straight from upstream? if they need rebuilt b/c of Ubuntu-specific changes, go through revu? | 07:03 |
sivang | siretart: I mean, the upload has to go through your server first for review? | 07:03 |
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\sh | siretart: thx :) | 07:04 |
siretart | sivang: well, revu is not required in any way. think of it rather as a small tool for simplifying reviewing work | 07:04 |
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sivang | siretart: ok, cool | 07:05 |
sivang | siretart: I hope you got enough space over that server of yours :-) | 07:05 |
sivang | siretart: also, can you help with setting up pbuilder? | 07:05 |
sivang | siretart: it won't even let me login | 07:05 |
siretart | sivang: there is a very good wiki page explaining how to setup a breezy pbuilder | 07:06 |
sivang | siretart: I used it, but I Have problme past that setup | 07:06 |
sivang | siretart: create fails for me | 07:06 |
chrissturm | sivang, you need to create a hoary chroot first | 07:06 |
chrissturm | and then update to breezy | 07:06 |
siretart | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 07:06 |
sivang | chrissturm: I tried creating breezy chroot straight away, why is it wrong? | 07:07 |
sivang | chrissturm: (I replaced all occurenses of hoary with breezy on the first setup_ | 07:07 |
sivang | ) | 07:07 |
chrissturm | sivang: that works for some, and fails for others | 07:07 |
chrissturm | sivang: dont do that, just follow the wiki | 07:07 |
siretart | seth_k: err, don't confuse upstream with debian or the real upstream of the software | 07:07 |
chrissturm | sivang, it replaces hoary with breezy later | 07:07 |
sivang | chrissturm: ok, then it's download and configuring the pakcages all over from scratch again :-( | 07:08 |
siretart | seth_k: we stopped the autoimporting of packages from our upstream (debian) | 07:08 |
seth_k | yes, I understand the difference | 07:08 |
seth_k | siretart, \sh, thanks so much :) you guys are most helpful | 07:09 |
chrissturm | sivang: not neccesarily | 07:09 |
chrissturm | sivang: go replace breezy with hoary in your pbuilder conf | 07:09 |
chrissturm | and try | 07:09 |
siretart | seth_k: if a package has an new upstream version with important bugfixes, there is no problem updating the package | 07:09 |
chrissturm | it will reuse the debs you already have | 07:09 |
comadreja | sivang : you have to first pbuilder create with hoary, have you done so ? | 07:09 |
seth_k | siretart: and running it through motutosync, or revu? :/ motutosync ONLY if there are no changes from debian? | 07:10 |
chrissturm | and it will install a strange breezy/hoary hybrid, which doensnt matter because you upgrade it straight afterwards | 07:10 |
siretart | what is motusync? | 07:10 |
seth_k | MOTUToSync | 07:10 |
seth_k | the wiki page | 07:10 |
siretart | aah. | 07:10 |
siretart | if you want to import an updated package from debian, no upload is necessary | 07:11 |
siretart | revu is only for upload sponsoring | 07:11 |
sivang | chrissturm: ok, I'll try. Are you also en experienced debian packager? | 07:11 |
seth_k | so bottom line = if you have to touch the package once it's come over from debian, it should use REVU. Got it :) no more bothering you... for now ;) | 07:12 |
seth_k | thanks again siretart | 07:12 |
chrissturm | sivang: sorry, not yet :D | 07:13 |
sivang | chrissturm: that's ok, me neither :-) | 07:13 |
chrissturm | sivang, its just how i got my pbuilder running ;) | 07:13 |
sivang | chrissturm: ok, I will try that now | 07:13 |
chrissturm | how do i find out who is responsible for a universe package? | 07:14 |
chrissturm | some ruby libs need some work | 07:14 |
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tseng | no one is responsible for ruby afaik | 07:14 |
tseng | if you want to start fixing bugs, go ahead | 07:15 |
siretart | :) | 07:15 |
sistpoty | Hi all | 07:15 |
tseng | chrissturm: ^ | 07:15 |
siretart | huhu sistpoty :) | 07:15 |
tseng | chrissturm: im pretty excited about rails :P | 07:15 |
chrissturm | tseng: me too | 07:15 |
chrissturm | ruby should go to main | 07:16 |
chrissturm | tseng, i have already 2 sites in production with rails | 07:16 |
chrissturm | http://packages.qa.debian.org/libr/librmagick-ruby.html | 07:16 |
tseng | what am i looking at | 07:17 |
chrissturm | tseng ^ this package is broken, it has very nasty bugs | 07:17 |
chrissturm | tseng: but to fix it it must be upgraded to latest upstream version | 07:17 |
tseng | which is in debian, or isnt in debian? | 07:17 |
chrissturm | i think it isnt | 07:18 |
tseng | well, you should know these things :) | 07:18 |
tseng | if you want to fix | 07:18 |
chrissturm | http://packages.qa.debian.org/libr/librmagick-ruby.html <== shouldnt this display the latest version thats in debian? | 07:18 |
tseng | it does | 07:18 |
tseng | that doesnt mean anything to me, however | 07:19 |
chrissturm | thats a way to old version | 07:19 |
tseng | (how should i know that) | 07:19 |
chrissturm | rmagick is always tied to a imagemagick version | 07:19 |
tseng | ok well i also see on this page | 07:19 |
chrissturm | and the rmagick for the imagemagick in breezy is 1.8.3 | 07:20 |
tseng | that only one bug is open | 07:20 |
tseng | against the package | 07:20 |
chrissturm | dunno what imagemagick debian uses | 07:20 |
tseng | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287140 | 07:20 |
tseng | ok slow down :) | 07:20 |
tseng | id like to help you, but you need to do your own homework | 07:21 |
chrissturm | if they have the correct version it will work for them. in breezy we would need 1.8.3 | 07:21 |
siretart | chrissturm: do you think you could prepare a package? | 07:22 |
tseng | Package: imagemagick (6:6.2.3.1-1, 6:6.2.3.0-2, 6:6.0.6.2-2.4, 5:5.5.7.9-1.1) | 07:22 |
tseng | from packages.debian.org | 07:22 |
tseng | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/imagemagick | 07:22 |
chrissturm | so what process do i need to follow? | 07:23 |
siretart | ok, I'm off for today. | 07:24 |
chrissturm | the problem is not that the package is too old for my taste, its that its broken | 07:24 |
siretart | see you tomorrow! | 07:24 |
chrissturm | bey | 07:24 |
chrissturm | bye | 07:24 |
seth_k | bye siretart | 07:24 |
tseng | thats fine but its better to fix it in debian if its broken there | 07:24 |
tseng | in either case you need to update the package to suit you | 07:25 |
tseng | and get it reviewed : http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | 07:25 |
tseng | that would be a fine first step. | 07:25 |
chrissturm | ok, the i will just do that | 07:26 |
chrissturm | i would like to have all ruby and rails components that make sense in ubuntu | 07:26 |
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tseng | chrissturm: awesome | 07:35 |
tseng | chrissturm: have you worked with debian packages before? | 07:35 |
chrissturm | tseng, not yet | 07:36 |
tseng | ok well | 07:36 |
tseng | will you be around for awhile | 07:36 |
tseng | i need 10 minutes for lunch | 07:36 |
chrissturm | if we dont manage today i will be here always the next week | 07:36 |
tseng | ok | 07:36 |
tseng | bbiaf | 07:37 |
chrissturm | i have the 1.6.0 source deb and the 1.8.3 tar file | 07:37 |
tseng | ok | 07:38 |
tseng | is the source deb unpacked? | 07:38 |
chrissturm | yep. | 07:39 |
tseng | ok cd into the source deb | 07:40 |
tseng | and run uupdate -u ../foo-1.8.3.tar.gz | 07:40 |
chrissturm | ok, now i got rejects | 07:41 |
tseng | fun | 07:41 |
chrissturm | cd into the new directory? | 07:42 |
tseng | uh | 07:42 |
tseng | i guess | 07:42 |
tseng | rejects mean the old package did something nasty | 07:42 |
tseng | changes files outside of debian/ | 07:42 |
tseng | you can cd and try to fix it if youd like | 07:42 |
chrissturm | i think it patched the makefile | 07:42 |
chrissturm | i will just remove this patch | 07:43 |
tseng | k | 07:43 |
sivang | boy, it's a slow process to make a pbuilder chroot | 07:46 |
tseng | not really | 07:46 |
Nafallo | is it? | 07:46 |
Nafallo | not with a local mirror it isn't ;-) | 07:46 |
sivang | we don't have a local mirror ter | 07:47 |
sivang | yet | 07:47 |
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sebest | hello i have a question about package request | 07:49 |
sebest | there is a package that i'd like to have in universe, it's already written for another distro (kanotix) | 07:50 |
sebest | should i post it in REVU ? | 07:50 |
chrissturm | tseng: now the uupdate worked | 07:52 |
tseng | good | 07:52 |
tseng | now in the updated dir | 07:52 |
tseng | dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot | 07:52 |
sivang | :-( | 07:52 |
sivang | pbuilder faild again | 07:52 |
tseng | you might need to install some things | 07:52 |
sivang | even when hoaryized | 07:52 |
sivang | Errors were encountered while processing: | 07:52 |
sivang | dhcp3-client | 07:52 |
sivang | hotplug | 07:52 |
sivang | udev | 07:52 |
sivang | ubuntu-minimal | 07:52 |
sivang | ubuntu-base | 07:52 |
sistpoty | sebest: did you package it? | 07:53 |
sebest | sistpoty: no | 07:53 |
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sebest | i found it there: http://kanotix.com/files/debian/acerhk/ | 07:53 |
sivang | tseng: what sort of things? | 07:53 |
tseng | sivang: not you | 07:53 |
chrissturm | sivang: if you want to be on the sure side, replace breezy with hoary in your pbuilder copy of the sources.list | 07:54 |
sebest | sistpoty : this a really simple package for hotkeys on laptop, only one kernel module | 07:55 |
tseng | a kernel module is hardly simple | 07:55 |
sivang | chrissturm: so I have to log into pbulder right? | 07:55 |
chrissturm | sivang: nope | 07:55 |
sebest | tseng what do you mean? | 07:55 |
chrissturm | sivang, the wiki told you to copy your apt directory | 07:55 |
tseng | sebest: i mean that every time the kernel abi changes we need to rebuild your module | 07:56 |
sistpoty | sebest: i just took a look ;) | 07:56 |
tseng | sebest: or it wont work | 07:56 |
sebest | it's not my module | 07:56 |
tseng | ... | 07:56 |
sivang | chrissturm: ok, I'll see what's there inside those files I copied | 07:56 |
tseng | in any case, it creates alot of extra work | 07:56 |
tseng | as its own package | 07:56 |
chrissturm | sivang, you need to change sources.list to point to hoary | 07:56 |
sivang | chrissturm: k | 07:57 |
tseng | you'll want to file a bug for the kernel guys to look at including it | 07:57 |
sebest | tseng i get your point, i just mean that for a kernel module, it's simple | 07:57 |
tseng | its not :) | 07:57 |
chrissturm | tseng: it fails now because it doenst run configure before trying to execute make. what file do i need to change? | 07:57 |
sebest | ok ok | 07:57 |
tseng | chrissturm: | 07:57 |
tseng | was configure added between 1.6 and 1.8? | 07:57 |
chrissturm | tseng: i dunno | 07:58 |
tseng | bah | 07:58 |
tseng | i guess i'd have to see the rules file | 07:58 |
chrissturm | i never built the 1.6 package | 07:58 |
tseng | one second | 07:58 |
sivang | chrissturm: done | 07:58 |
chrissturm | sivang: then try pbuilder build again | 07:59 |
tseng | +config.status: configure | 07:59 |
tseng | +dh_testdir | 07:59 |
tseng | +RUBY=/usr/bin/$(RUBY) ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) --prefix=/usr | 07:59 |
sebest | tseng, is it different if it's a source package ? | 07:59 |
tseng | sebest: yes | 07:59 |
sebest | i think it is | 07:59 |
tseng | it runs configure, dudes | 07:59 |
sebest | acerhk-source_0.5.25-6_i386.deb is a source package right? | 08:00 |
tseng | sounds like it | 08:00 |
tseng | no that a source package for a kernel sounds terribly useful | 08:00 |
sebest | i don't know the details, i just know that the module is terribly usefull for me :) | 08:01 |
sebest | so i just wanted to know the best way to see it appearing in ubuntu :) | 08:01 |
tseng | so can you file a bug to include it in our kernel like i said | 08:01 |
tseng | with a link to the driver homepage | 08:02 |
sebest | oki i will, i'm just always affraid to go in bugzilla | 08:03 |
chrissturm | bugzilla is your friend | 08:03 |
sebest | bugzilla is frightening :) | 08:04 |
sebest | it's so user unfriendly :s | 08:04 |
chrissturm | sebest, it will be obsolete soon | 08:04 |
chrissturm | malone is your even better friend | 08:04 |
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chrissturm | tseng: i managed to build the dev | 08:05 |
chrissturm | deb | 08:05 |
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tseng | chrissturm: yeah? you are quick | 08:06 |
chrissturm | actually i just did what you told me, ignored the error message, and then built the *.dsc with pbuilder | 08:07 |
tseng | ah man | 08:07 |
tseng | nice work :) | 08:07 |
tseng | what was the error btw | 08:07 |
sebest | tseng: sorry to ask a stupid question, but to which package should i assign the bug? there are many kernel* | 08:07 |
tseng | sebest: linux-kernel | 08:07 |
chrissturm | it didnt find some makefile targets. but it continued | 08:07 |
chrissturm | sebest, linux is the package | 08:08 |
tseng | we should fix that | 08:08 |
tseng | that might have been part of the patch? | 08:08 |
chrissturm | tseng: the patch was just changing a compiler option form c99 to gnuc99 | 08:09 |
tseng | ah | 08:09 |
chrissturm | tseng, i found it was obsoleted by gcc4 | 08:09 |
chrissturm | at least | 08:09 |
tseng | :) | 08:09 |
tseng | and you said you never worked with this stuff before | 08:09 |
chrissturm | and since i successfully built the source tgz yesterday | 08:09 |
tseng | fooled me. | 08:09 |
chrissturm | tseng: its my first deb | 08:09 |
chrissturm | but i am doing coding for 22 years | 08:10 |
tseng | :) | 08:10 |
tseng | i havent even been alive for 22 years | 08:10 |
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\sh | chrissturm: coding for 22 years for propietary software? *shrug* | 08:11 |
chrissturm | gotta prepare food, ttyl | 08:11 |
chrissturm | \sh only open source stuff for the last years | 08:11 |
tseng | bye, have fun with your new deb | 08:11 |
chrissturm | thx | 08:11 |
tseng | im sure ill see you later | 08:11 |
sebest | chrissturn: i did it, i hope i did it weel it # 12564 | 08:11 |
chrissturm | yep | 08:11 |
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\sh | -for+of | 08:13 |
comadreja | I have a suggestion for pbuilder... | 08:19 |
comadreja | if it fails on create should leave on the harddrive the downloaded files | 08:19 |
comadreja | the base system | 08:20 |
comadreja | \sh ping | 08:27 |
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pef | hello | 08:42 |
sistpoty | hi pef | 08:43 |
pef | which version is mostly used by ubuntu developers here ? hoary or breezy ? | 08:46 |
Hieronymus | pef: probably breezy, since that is development version | 08:49 |
Treenaks | but if you don't know how to fix horrible problems, you shouldn't try it for yourself just yet | 08:50 |
sivang | chrissturm: ok, seems it's done but I got: | 08:51 |
sivang | -> removing directory /var/cache/pbuilder/build//13926 and its subdirectories | 08:51 |
sivang | rmdir: `/var/cache/pbuilder/build//13926/dev': Device or resource busy | 08:52 |
sivang | rmdir: `/var/cache/pbuilder/build//13926/.dev': Device or resource busy | 08:52 |
sivang | rmdir: `/var/cache/pbuilder/build//13926': Directory not empty | 08:52 |
sivang | Treenaks: I'm using breezy, it's not that bad :-) | 08:52 |
sistpoty | there i can fully agree :) (hope that restricted-modules will be in there soon, cause nvidia-glx comes from these) | 08:53 |
sivang | sistpoty: well, I'm not using nvidia-glx at the moment :-) | 08:54 |
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sivang | (I figured it's not that bad to live without accelereaction | 08:54 |
Treenaks | sivang: so am I, but it's a bit weird at times | 08:54 |
sivang | Treenaks: true | 08:54 |
sivang | anywya, I just logged into my pbuilder chroot | 08:54 |
sistpoty | sivang: it is, if you want to play games ;) | 08:54 |
Treenaks | sivang: I'm lucky I learned how apt/dpkg worked at my last job :) | 08:54 |
Treenaks | sivang: (semi-internally) | 08:54 |
sivang | Treenaks: you're not working there anymore? where do you work now? | 08:55 |
Treenaks | got to love hacking in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to get your apt to work again | 08:55 |
Treenaks | sivang: last job = where I worked for 5 years, left a year ago | 08:55 |
Treenaks | sivang: a) it didn't pay very well; b) boss tended to be an asshole at times | 08:55 |
sivang | Treenaks: ah :-) | 08:56 |
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sivang | Treenaks: you by any chance know anything about that pbuilder errors I'm getting? | 08:56 |
Treenaks | pbuiler is nice :) | 08:56 |
Treenaks | device or resource busy!?!! | 08:56 |
Treenaks | is it on a separate mount? | 08:57 |
Treenaks | is something still mounted from inside the chroot? | 08:57 |
sivang | Treenaks: no :-) | 08:57 |
Treenaks | (udev?) | 08:57 |
Treenaks | udev mounts stuff.. | 08:57 |
sivang | Treenaks: could have been | 08:57 |
sivang | seems ok now | 08:57 |
sivang | I now get only: | 08:57 |
sivang | Copying back the cached apt archive contents | 08:57 |
sivang | find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it). Please specify options before other arguments. | 08:57 |
Treenaks | wow.. never had that | 08:58 |
sivang | I guess it has somewrong execution args to find | 08:58 |
Treenaks | sounds like your chroot is b0rken | 08:58 |
sivang | ah :-( | 08:58 |
sivang | that's the third time today I tried creating it | 08:58 |
sivang | people around here told me to start with the hoary chroot, and then upgrade to breezy | 08:58 |
Treenaks | yes that works best | 08:58 |
sivang | Treenaks: now, do I alwasy work as only root in pbuilder? don't I need any other account? | 08:59 |
Treenaks | sivang: I don't work inside pbuilder | 09:00 |
Treenaks | sivang: I just prepare source packages, and sudo pbuilder | 09:00 |
sivang | Treenaks: ah ok | 09:01 |
sivang | Treenaks: what stuff are you working on these days? | 09:01 |
Treenaks | sivang: evil perl scripts still | 09:01 |
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sivang | Treenaks: for ubuntu or for work? | 09:03 |
Treenaks | sivang: for work | 09:03 |
Treenaks | sivang: oh and taking lots of pictures | 09:03 |
sivang | Treenaks: hehe | 09:04 |
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sivang | now, may I dist-upgrad inside pbuilder to get a breezy chroot? | 09:10 |
Treenaks | sivang: no, there's a procedure on the wiki | 09:11 |
Treenaks | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto -> "Upgrading to Breezy" | 09:11 |
sivang | oops | 09:11 |
sivang | I already started it | 09:11 |
sivang | taking as if it's a real chroot | 09:11 |
sivang | better ctrl+c it now | 09:12 |
Treenaks | yes | 09:12 |
sistpoty | gotta go... cya | 09:15 |
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comadreja | linux 256 bit wep keylinux 256 bit wep key | 10:02 |
comadreja | what's the channel/mailing-list for ubuntu/GNOME | 10:07 |
Treenaks | comadreja: #ubuntu ? | 10:08 |
Treenaks | btw, we're not a search engine :) | 10:08 |
comadreja | :) hehe yep, I've got problems with my touchpad, gotta report it | 10:08 |
Hieronymus | ubotu is the search engine | 10:10 |
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ivoks | hi | 10:41 |
pef | ivoks: hi | 10:42 |
pef | siretart: i'va got a little problem with my revu password, I didn't received it at my first upload as specified in your email ;) | 10:44 |
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pef | bye ! | 11:39 |
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