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[12:12] tseng: Are you using Hula? [12:12] no. [12:12] or i would just look at it :) [12:14] i guess it must be embedded in the hula server [12:14] the interpreter [12:15] i cant imagine they wrote a modern webapp in C [12:16] seems like they use a templating engine of some sorts: [12:16] http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/svn/svnbrowse.php?uri=filedetails.php%3Frepname%3Dhula%26path%3D%252Ftrunk%252Fhula%252Fsrc%252Ftemplates%252Faurora%252Ffolder.htt%26rev%3D0%26sc%3D0 [12:16] hm yes === DanielN__ [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o DanielN] by ChanServ === DanielN__ was kicked off #ubuntu-motu by DanielN (DanielN) === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o DanielN] by DanielN [12:54] :) [12:54] howdy all [12:54] hi comadreja [12:55] hello DanielN :) === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] howdy all === ogra [~ogra@p5089CE3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089CE3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@d022064.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] siretart: did ogra ever reply about rebuild pacakges? [02:12] Mez: I've been thinking about it, and come to the conclusion that uploading with an -XbuiltN version scheme would be best in this case [02:12] .? [02:12] ?? [02:13] well, the version in breezy is 1.1-3, I think we should reupload it with version 1.1-3build1. [02:13] I've seen some uploads from doko and ogra with this scheme [02:13] have you ? [02:13] *Shrugs* [02:13] ogra: can you comment on this? [02:13] yeah, wait [02:14] wont that screw up when you like do 1.1-3ubuntu1 [02:14] oh, no cause it's classed as a higher version [02:15] do any MOTU know how to search for things that depend on a certain version of something? [02:15] as for some reason half of the backports depend on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) [02:15] which it shoultn [02:15] siretart, Mez, you do that if its only a recompile without changes... that leaves the package upgradeable since the archouve scrits only react on ubuntuX [02:16] archive scripts [02:16] cool... well... can I poke you towards a few that need rebuilding [02:16] ogra: yes. this is the case for us [02:16] so call it buildX [02:16] ok [02:17] mail-notification, epiphany, frozen-bubble [02:17] before you touch epiphany, talk to seb128 [02:18] oh, cool so I'll just poke them into revu then ? [02:19] with the right version numbers [02:19] Mez: I'm on mail-notification right know, go for frozen-bubble [02:19] Mez: frozen-bubble needed and dependency rebuilt, I uploaded it yesterday evening. I hope it already reached your mirror [02:19] siretart, will do once I've rebuilt firefox for backports [02:20] we are still backporting firefox? [02:20] Mez: btw, did you try to rebuilt networkmanager for hoary? [02:20] I'm backporting it to fix the shitty dependencies [02:20] siretart - no [02:20] ok [02:21] tseng: the current backport depends on a newer version of libgcc1 which it shouldnt [02:21] and siretart - why [02:21] Mez: I was thinking about doing it myself for my notebook [02:22] siretart - I'll put it on my list [02:22] I cannot upgrade to breezy right now, because I need restricted modules [02:22] Mez: thanks! but don't loose too much time on it, I think that could be really tricky [02:23] siretart - I wont ... but if it's apain in the ass - I'll shove the changes abck for breezy [02:24] what's the pacakge name? [02:24] nvm === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info12-107.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] Mez: its called network-manager [02:26] gotit :D [02:26] huh, you want to backport NM ??? [02:27] ogra: I was only thinking trying it get it built on hoary [02:28] I did not mean to request a backport ;) [02:28] lol :D [02:28] guys thats crazy... it needs functions from the breezy libc afaik [02:28] and its not even working right on breezy [02:28] ogra :D we'll see if it builds first :D [02:28] i would wait until its half way finished [02:28] ah, ok. thanks for the cluebat [02:28] before even trying to backport [02:29] ogra: do you know whats the status about restricted modules? [02:29] hey all [02:29] hi [02:29] hi jsgotangco [02:29] its planned soon... but daniels is still busy with X afaik [02:29] well ogra, for now I can fix a couple of problems that it'll hit when backporting [02:29] great! :) [02:29] like dbus-glib-1-dev -> libdbus-glib-1-dev change [02:30] why are you guys talking about work on a fine satuday morning/evening? *grin* [02:30] lol [02:30] yeah its cartoon time [02:30] cause we dont have lives [02:30] i just watched Fantastic 4 [02:31] jsgotangco, because my GF wouldnt understand if i suddenly had time i could spend with her :) [02:31] nyahahaha [02:31] masters of the universe is out on DVD [02:31] speaking of cartoons [02:31] heh [02:32] the old one? [02:32] jeezz i used to have a lot of skeletor stuff [02:32] ya [02:32] i had heman and his glider [02:32] and some monsters [02:33] do you remember she-ra [02:33] that bastard spin off [02:33] yes [02:34] did you watch the movie that had dolph lundgren heh [02:34] no [02:35] i was a sucker for all antagonists back then [02:35] never bought the heroes at all [02:36] antagonists rock [02:36] indeed [02:37] even in classic WWF hehe === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] <\sh> morning [02:53] hi [02:54] hi \sh [02:54] <\sh> damn...only after a new install you know how many things you installed to get your system ready for working :( [03:00] <\sh> and now fixing wine [03:01] wine doesn't work with Breezy [03:01] Hieronymus: yes, and it's Dependency Hell around there [03:01] torcs doesn't either, I just found out === Hieronymus bug report [03:02] <\sh> that's the point...fixin b-d and deps first, and then let's see [03:03] <\sh> and I need something like ion3 with kde support to have all my shells in one window [03:04] ohh an Ion user as well [03:04] <\sh> not now...but it looks promising if ion3 supports some stuff to work nicely together with kde or gnome [03:05] i still find Ion3 too slow [03:08] is anyone aware of an official tux racer arcade game cabinet? [03:08] because i was in the arcades today and i saw one [03:09] yes [03:09] ohh [03:13] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1324 === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info12-107.info.com.ph] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:41] cu folks! [03:41] gotta leave. cu tomorrow [03:42] <\sh> grmpf...wine ftbfs and bugzilla.redhat.com is down [03:43] \sh, its likely we'll take the packages from winehq in the future... try them [03:46] <\sh> hmm...ok...trying actual release of winehq [03:50] <\sh> we should get mutt-ng in universe at least...it's rocking [03:59] <\sh> hmm...and xfs fs is not faster then reiserfs on a laptop === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnert [~gnert@a84-230-149-182.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@i528C356E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1735.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] hi all === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] \sh, ping [04:48] <\sh> DanielN: pong [04:49] \sh, could you take a look at yehia pls? it FTBS and i'm stuck in fixing that :/ [04:50] <\sh> DanielN: I'm preparing all this for this weekend..:( I have a lot of todos on my list :( [04:50] :) [04:50] i hope wifi-radar is on that list :) [04:50] \sh, uhh... sounds heavi ;> [04:50] DanielN: i have couple of minutes now [04:50] but thanks [04:50] maybe i could help you [04:51] ivoks, just get source (yehia) and pbuild it.. [04:51] wher is it? [04:51] no idea about the error shown [04:51] ivoks, in the archive [04:51] i said i'm stuck ;) [04:51] archive?! FTBS and in archive? [04:51] with gcc4 [04:51] ! [04:51] uh [04:52] <\sh> DanielN: u have a log from your build? can u publish it somewhere? [04:53] that would be nice, yes [04:53] \sh: i could take care of this, if that's ok with you? [04:54] <\sh> ivoks: please :) any work removed from my list, is a good work ,-) [04:54] :) [04:54] uh... no time for pbuilder now... i'll check it with gcc-4 [04:54] argh [04:55] where are these logs going? [04:55] <\sh> DanielN: pbuilder build .dsc &> build.log [04:55] DanielN: source changed by Stephen Shirley \ [04:56] where are you in this picture? [04:56] <\sh> ivoks: he wanted to build it and change it for cxx [04:56] ah, ok [04:56] <\sh> ivoks: so there is no upload right now from daniel [04:56] ok [04:56] :> [04:56] as i forgot the meeting again :/ [04:57] what meeting? [04:57] techb [04:57] hm, when was it? [04:57] last tuesday i think? [04:58] that was one with koffice/ooffice debate? [04:58] <\sh> last tuesday was CC, next week is TB again I think [04:58] don't know [04:58] ahh [04:58] yep.. [04:58] ok... [04:58] build faild [04:59] void something [04:59] ... [04:59] destructor problem [04:59] <\sh> what? [04:59] <\sh> logs [04:59] warning: 'class Yehia::Script::Namespace' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor [04:59] :> [04:59] <\sh> we need to get the virtserver fuer revu [05:00] <\sh> warning [05:00] yes, error is something else [05:00] <\sh> there must an error [05:00] <\sh> +be [05:00] error: 'node' was not declared in this scope [05:00] <\sh> aha [05:00] <\sh> check the file...what is node... [05:00] <\sh> this is really a small one I think [05:01] ahh [05:01] sorry guys [05:01] yeah.. this one i fixed already [05:01] but there's another after this one [05:01] ok... [05:01] wait i'll build it [05:01] ivalid use of void? [05:01] yeah.. something like that [05:02] paste.. [05:02] 3 lines [05:02] void erase(iterator start, iterator end) { [05:02] for (iterator it = start; it != end; ++it) [05:02] G_Node(g_node_unlink(it.node)); } [05:03] yep this one it is [05:04] <\sh> hmm...getting the source... [05:04] <\sh> what was the name of source again? [05:04] messy code [05:04] yehia [05:04] yehia [05:05] <\sh> ivoks: sourcefile? [05:05] yehia/node.h [05:05] line 96 [05:07] bbl [05:07] <\sh> *shiver* templates and overloaded methods === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] hey, what does this mean ? [05:10] Candidates That Have Been Covered in Previous CC Meetings - need to show up [05:10] * [05:10] the need to show up [05:10] that means that they were on the agenda and didnt show up [05:10] they need to come back [05:10] :) [05:10] or take themselves off the list [05:11] some people have been there for some time [05:11] and where do you have to show up ? :D [05:11] uh, in the channel at the scheduled meeting time [05:11] as mentioned on the agenda [05:11] oh, yes, I c [05:14] <\sh> hmmm... [05:14] <\sh> no bug reports at all for this [05:14] \sh, yeah.. i know [05:15] <\sh> and i doesn't look very active [05:17] <\sh> hmm..let me finish up with wine here [05:21] <\sh> *grmpf* [05:21] \sh: what are you doing with wine? [05:22] <\sh> Hieronymus: I'm building the new upstream version :) [05:22] <\sh> and some dirs and files moved [05:23] <\sh> so...third pbuilder try [05:23] it's not working right now, \sh [05:24] xlibmesa-glu :( [05:24] <\sh> Hieronymus: I fixed this already === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] <\sh> Hieronymus: it's only a build-deb thingy..easy to resolv [05:26] \sh: how? It still gives me an error [05:27] Hieronymus: I belive \sh haven't uploaded yet... [05:28] okay. It's just that it breaks a lot of packages [05:28] which eh... sucks [05:29] Hieronymus: replace build dep xlibmesa-glu-dev with libglu-dev-xorg [05:30] I really wouldn't know how to === Hieronymus is not a dev [05:32] <\sh> Hieronymus: wine-0.0.200505xx ftbfs [05:32] <\sh> wine-0.0.20050628 not but it breaks some rules === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable134.23-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] anybody an idea? I tried installing pbuilder: [06:33] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [06:33] udev: Depends: libselinux1 (>= 1.24) but it is not installed [06:33] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [06:33] -> Aborting with an error [06:34] how do I install -f inside pbuilder, better how do I chroot into it? [06:35] siretart: ping [06:35] sivang: theres a pbuildr command to drop you into a shell for manual surgery [06:35] Lathiat: what'd be the commmand ? :-) [06:36] man pbuilder ;p [06:36] i forget [06:36] Lathiat: no prob buddy, thanks [06:36] Lathiat: btw, I see you alot around gnome channels, you a gnome dev? [06:36] sivang: not really, few patches here and there [06:36] Lathiat: cool, just like me, what programs? [06:36] evolution was the thing i did the most on [06:36] sivang: pong [06:36] i have like a 5000 line patch for calenda rpublishign from a year ago i never finished [06:37] siretart: I already got the answer :-) man pbuilder ;-) [06:37] great :) [06:37] siretart: thanks fore responding , though [06:37] siretart: btw, I want to help with the Xorg modularization transaction, I need to do some motu as I'm aspiring to upload to main [06:38] siretart: dhloback suggested it would me a good way to get back in :-) [06:38] 'hack in' ? [06:38] erg, back [06:38] uuuh. sounds great :) [06:38] siretart: (I was very active once before I started a a day job) [06:38] I wonder if anybody here recall me [06:38] your nick is familiar [06:39] Lathiat: I lurk alot around #g-h, #g-l etc.. [06:39] sivang: I think I remember you. that was about 6 months ago, right? [06:39] sivang: yeh maybe its g-h i recognize you from [06:39] i need to fix bzflag [06:39] now that i have mjy breezy install back i can do it [06:39] stupid Xorg crap ;p [06:39] siretart: actually, I stopped being daily active around 1,2 april [06:40] ah === siretart having a bad memory about times and dates :p [06:40] siretart: no it's ok [06:40] siretart: I saw revu , pretty cool , how do you operate it? [06:40] sivang: do you think you could create a list of packages which need to be fixed because of this libglu-dev-xorg madness? [06:41] sivang: ah, thanks. [06:41] ooh, i think thats the problem bzflag had [06:41] sivang: revu is written with mod-python, apache2 and postgres [06:41] siretart: nice, postgres is awesome [06:41] people keep saying taht [06:42] i never liked it [06:42] im a mysql fanboy [06:42] for random php applications, it works good [06:42] tseng: it's true brandon, mysql keeps me angry each time I try set it up [06:42] yep [06:42] never needed no extra performance, or real utf8, or some crpa [06:42] Lathiat: yes. I uploaded sdlperl a few hours ago, got built on all architectures. It seems that libglu-dev-xorg depends on both glu and gl libraries [06:42] Lathiat: hey, you work with PHP ? [06:42] uh oh [06:42] tseng: hehe [06:42] no I won't start [06:42] :-) [06:42] :-( [06:42] :-) [06:43] sivang: yeh [06:43] my stuff in mysql returns 1000 rows in 00. [06:43] .008 seconds [06:43] Lathiat: if you're interested in something, and you work on traditional server system environment , let me know [06:44] im not sure it needs to be faster :) [06:44] sivang: what you got in mind? [06:44] sivang: you know how to use revu? we could use more reviewers ;) [06:44] siretart: well, not really, I figured I'd ask you , and well, get some info about what needs be done on this X modularization transaction [06:45] siretart: I also need to know what it's all about, where can I read about it? [06:45] sivang: the basic problem was, that I didn't like doing reviewing stuff in the wiki. so I've written revu for replacing these pages === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] sivang: basically everyone can upload who sends me his gpg key, all uploaders for universe have been imported [06:47] siretart: you're the head of universe now? [06:47] sivang: login is your email (the one in the Changed-By: field of the .changes file), account is created with first upload (use recover link, should work again) [06:47] sivang: nono! I'm just a humble motu ;) [06:47] sivang: head of universe are dholbach and ogra [06:47] siretart - that frozen-bubble was just a retard :D can you shove it up :D [06:48] siretart: well, at least you're administrating the universe :-) [06:48] Mez: huh? no upload necssary? [06:48] siretart - frozen bubble means rebuilding [06:48] sivang: not even, just writing a little helper tool to attract more potential motus ;) [06:48] menas it needs a new XbuildY [06:48] :D [06:48] as shoved into REVU [06:48] Mez: just rebuilding? sounds great :) [06:49] well once the other stuff went through === siretart not at home, so I cannot do any reviewing or uploading work [06:49] kk [06:49] siretart: but before that, I need to know what's happend with xorg that we need to do all this work, and how to test packages [06:50] night all [06:51] sivang: well. I'm not really sure about the details, but as far as I understood it, the libmesa-gl* package are obsoleted by lib{gl,glu}-dev and packages providing them [06:51] sivang: in many cases it seems that changes these build dependencies to libglu-dev-xorg works [06:51] s/changes/changing/ [06:52] siretart: I see , sounds pretty easy [06:52] sivang: packages can be tested quite well in an updated breezy pbuilder [06:53] the problem is, that sbuild on the autobuilders have an other build dependency resolution algorithm, which seems to be a bit more picky than pbuilder-satisfybuilddepends.pl [06:54] siretart: I see, so how you solve this problem? [06:55] sivang: well, I don't see a really good solution, but usually, when I get an package built in pbuilder, I upload it [06:56] sivang: if it fails to build, you can look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ and look for the buildlog of the package [06:56] siretart: revu is for all packages to review, updated and rebuilt and new? Or just new ones :) [06:56] normally the buildlog from sbuild gives enough information to fix the remaining dependency issues [06:57] seth_k: I consider revu as a launchpad for your motu carreer ;) - basically I think it should be used for any uploads [06:58] siretart: woot, /me goes over to revu and finds the link to send you his gpg key [06:58] seth_k: in fact, updated packages (uploads without the lamp) should get uploaded more quickly, because only one advocate is needed (for NEW ones, we require 3 advocates). Any uploader to universe may advocate [06:58] siretart: that should make it a lot easier for me to push updated packages over, i always was hunting for someone to bother (ask) [06:58] thanks much :) [06:59] seth_k: please upload only packages to revu that you think should be uploaded to ubuntu "as is". (think of uploading upload candidates) [06:59] yes, I understand. Final packages, ready-to-submit === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:59] revu2 will name "uploads" "candidates" [07:00] siretart: I upload into revu? I'm confused [07:01] sivang: on the top there is a link to the wiki page giving instructions how to configure dput to upload to revu [07:01] final question: since auto-importing from debian is frozen, should any updated packages we want in universe (e.g., backports people are screaming for gdesklets 0.35 to enter breezy), I should submit that to revu? Or will universe updates still occur automatically and I shouldn't worry about it [07:02] <\sh> seth_k: universe is not frozen, only syncing...but ping elmo to sync whatever universe package u want to have..there is a wiki page for elmos info... === \sh forgot the name [07:02] MOTUToSync [07:02] I think [07:03] siretart: so nobody uploads to straight canonical server anymore for universe? [07:03] err, huh? [07:03] got it, but that's only for packages that get imported straight from upstream? if they need rebuilt b/c of Ubuntu-specific changes, go through revu? [07:03] siretart: I mean, the upload has to go through your server first for review? === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] <\sh> siretart: thx :) [07:04] sivang: well, revu is not required in any way. think of it rather as a small tool for simplifying reviewing work === chrissturm [~chris@83-65-246-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] siretart: ok, cool [07:05] siretart: I hope you got enough space over that server of yours :-) [07:05] siretart: also, can you help with setting up pbuilder? [07:05] siretart: it won't even let me login [07:06] sivang: there is a very good wiki page explaining how to setup a breezy pbuilder [07:06] siretart: I used it, but I Have problme past that setup [07:06] siretart: create fails for me [07:06] sivang, you need to create a hoary chroot first [07:06] and then update to breezy [07:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [07:07] chrissturm: I tried creating breezy chroot straight away, why is it wrong? [07:07] chrissturm: (I replaced all occurenses of hoary with breezy on the first setup_ [07:07] ) [07:07] sivang: that works for some, and fails for others [07:07] sivang: dont do that, just follow the wiki [07:07] seth_k: err, don't confuse upstream with debian or the real upstream of the software [07:07] sivang, it replaces hoary with breezy later [07:08] chrissturm: ok, then it's download and configuring the pakcages all over from scratch again :-( [07:08] seth_k: we stopped the autoimporting of packages from our upstream (debian) [07:08] yes, I understand the difference [07:09] siretart, \sh, thanks so much :) you guys are most helpful [07:09] sivang: not neccesarily [07:09] sivang: go replace breezy with hoary in your pbuilder conf [07:09] and try [07:09] seth_k: if a package has an new upstream version with important bugfixes, there is no problem updating the package [07:09] it will reuse the debs you already have [07:09] sivang : you have to first pbuilder create with hoary, have you done so ? [07:10] siretart: and running it through motutosync, or revu? :/ motutosync ONLY if there are no changes from debian? [07:10] and it will install a strange breezy/hoary hybrid, which doensnt matter because you upgrade it straight afterwards [07:10] what is motusync? [07:10]