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HappyFoolAerebus: you can always try that md5 update command12:00
youthYay! It works. Thank you all so much~12:00
HappyFoolAerebus: something has changed your xorg.conf12:01
Aerebusok brb12:01
flankkHappyFool, isn't there at least a sound HOWTO somewhere?12:02
youthnalioth, you said there are some in the applications menu.. where?12:02
naliothyouth: look under "internet"12:02
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HappyFoolflankk: you can search for 'sound' here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex12:02
youthnalioth; is that the "terminal server client"?12:02
naliothyouth: no it is not12:03
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zaki_what does it mean "backup/restore downloaded repositories cache"12:03
naliothyouth: do you have universe and multiverse repositorys enabled?12:03
youtho.o i don't know?12:03
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nalioths_dogzaki_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.12:03
nalioths_dogyouth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:03
youthi seriously just got ubuntu like. yesterday and my friend showed me some stuff but not all this12:03
nalioths_dogyouth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:03
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naliothyouth: read what the dog sent ya, when you have that done and enabled, come back here and we'll tell ya where to look in the big toy box12:04
flankkHappyFool, already done.. these are useless because lspci doesn't even show a sound card.  I'm not sure what the card is.. and why wouldn't it be enabled in the kernel? what would you suggest doing?12:04
HappyFoolflankk: i'd suggest trying to find out what the card is, and using google12:05
vladuz976hey does anybody know how to bind a certain command to a key?12:05
youthnalioth; ohjoy :3 thanks lol12:05
LinuxJonesflankk, is it disabled in your system's bios ?12:05
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HappyFoolvladuz976: maybe System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts12:06
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HappyFoolflankk: i would've thought lspci would see it, even if no modules were loaded12:06
Danaris the debian repository compatible with ubuntu?12:06
vladuz976HappyFool: that only binds keys to certain funktions in there. not to what i want. only does stuff like play vol up and down and i can select keys for that12:06
LinuxJonesDanar, not recommended12:07
HappyFoolvladuz976: sorry, i don't know more than that12:07
DanarLinuxJones: why not?12:07
vladuz976HappyFool: ok, thanks anyways12:07
aeolistDanar, chances are the world will keep spinning even if you install some debs12:07
LinuxJonesDanar, most stuff from Debian is available in the Ubuntu repos12:07
MidNightRaVeNanyone know why when i start ubuntu my mouse won't work... but when i unplug it and plug it back in, it works?12:07
DanarLinuxJones: is nvu in there yet?12:07
naliothDanar: nvu is availabe from the nvu homepage12:08
youthnailoth; it says "Use the checkboxes in the first column enable or disable a repository. Universe is now enabled." - but which one am I supposed to do? they're all checked.12:08
Danarnalioth: easier to apt-get stuff. i'd rather have it in the repository12:08
flankkHappyFool, well it is integrated, and nothing 'Multimedia' is showing.. nor audio.  Since it is integrated, the bridge is, " Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge."12:08
MidNightRaVeNlol anyone?12:08
LinuxJonesDanar, nope but you could install the .deb from the Linspire website I would assume12:08
naliothyouth: universe and multiverse?12:09
MidNightRaVeN='(12:09
derekalright, i've been trying to fix my sound (sound blaster live) all day. i've read every forum and it still does not work, any ideas?12:09
youthMidNightRaVen; my mouse wouldn't work either :/12:09
naliothDanar: at this time, nvu isnt available via repo, it will be in breezy, i believe12:09
MidNightRaVeNyouth: figure out how to fix it?12:09
youthMidNightRaVen; my mouse with a ball, anyway. i plugged in a ball-less one and it worked lol12:09
naliothDanar: the deb from nvu homepage installs just fine12:09
MidNightRaVeNlol really?12:09
youthYeah XD12:09
youthGo get one without a ball, it might work hahah12:09
MidNightRaVeNyouth: i have a ball mouse right now... so maybe that's the pro12:09
MidNightRaVeNlol12:10
Danari'm on debian now. if i switched my sources.list to the ubuntu repository, would i be able to 'upgrade' from debian to ubuntu?12:10
HappyFoolflankk: sorry, no idea. can you maybe lookup your mainboard via google to find out the sound chipset?12:10
MidNightRaVeNthx =D!!12:10
youthMidNightRaVen; Maybe. Maybe not though. It just worked for me, that's all I know lol12:10
naliothDanar: only if you are running woody12:10
Danarnalioth: er, testing12:10
MidNightRaVeNyouth: lol i imagine it probably will... it's worth a try eh?12:10
naliothDanar: is that sid or etch?12:10
youthnalioth; universe and multiverse..? i feel so dumb i have no idea what you mean ><12:10
MidNightRaVeNyouth: thx =) I hope it works!12:10
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naliothyouth: watch the dog12:10
HappyFoolflankk: has your sound worked previously? if so, in what OS?12:10
nalioths_dogyouth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:10
AerebusHappyfool, ok i got it i saw the nvidia loo12:10
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nalioths_dogyouth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:11
Danarnalioth: whichever testing is :p12:11
Aerebuslogo*12:11
youthMidNightRaVen; worth a shot, yah. if it doesn't work, you have a nifty mouse.12:11
HappyFoolAerebus: yay ;)12:11
naliothDanar: probably easier to clean install ubuntu12:11
Aerebushowever i dont think that helped lol12:11
HappyFoolAerebus: then it's probably working12:11
MidNightRaVeNyouth: i was planning on getting a usb mouse anywho... so maybe i'll just get one early instead ;-)12:11
youth:312:11
Danarnalioth: i'd prefer to be able to keep most of my settings and stuff the way they are without having to go through configurations all over again...12:12
Aerebusit helped  alittle but see when i hold a mouse button and drag the window around i see jagged edges and it looks nasty, any way to correct that?12:12
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youthI'll try! dog o-o person.. lol12:12
youththanks12:12
Danarmy major gripe with ubuntu though is not enough packages in the repository12:12
HappyFoolAerebus: yeah, don't drag windows around.12:12
naliothDanar: well, from woody is the only easy option12:12
HappyFoolAerebus: sorry, no idea12:12
Aerebus?!?! lol12:12
flankkHappyFool, it has worked it windows previously.12:12
Danarnalioth: :/ woody isn't up-to-date enough12:12
HappyFoolflankk: if you still have windows installed, boot that and find out what the sound card/chipset is12:13
LinuxJonesDanar, you should enable the universe & multiverse repos for like 11,000 more packages12:13
DanarLinuxJones: i did.12:13
MidNightRaVeNdo you guys know where i can get lvc from?? i look for it in synaptic but for whatever reason it's not there12:13
naliothDanar: understand, but the fact that it is OLD, makes the ubuntu upgrade the easiest12:13
flankkHappyFool, that's useless. you can find more information in linux.12:13
DanarLinuxJones: some stuff, like nvu still wasn't there12:13
HappyFoolflankk: eh? it works in windows, right?12:14
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HappyFoolflankk: and in Linux it isn't even showing up in lspci12:14
HappyFoolflankk: i guess you could google for each of the pci identifiers12:14
MidNightRaVeNlol you guys know where I can get lvc?? it doesn't show up on synaptic12:15
The_VoxDanar: nvu is in one of the repositories12:15
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Danarbut if i switched my sources.list to ubuntu and simply upgraded as the versions passed my currently installed ones, would that work?12:15
LinuxJonesDanar, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor12:15
stan3When i use music player, rythm box "has quit unexpectedly"12:15
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flankkHappyFool, I don't fucking have windows. sheesh.. it can be done in linux. I'll just use kudzu.12:15
DanarThe_Vox: it is? when did that happen? must have been recently12:15
MidNightRaVeN*sigh*12:15
The_VoxDanar: no clue when it happened, but:12:16
The_Voxvox@nimashet:~$ apt-cache search nvu12:16
The_Voxnvu - Complete Web Authoring System12:16
The_Voxnvu-dev - developers files for nvu12:16
MidNightRaVeN<---- no one hears....12:16
QMarioI cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me. Please. :-[12:16
The_VoxMidNightRaVeN: what is lvc supposed to be?12:16
HappyFoolflankk: *shrug* feel free to take out your frustration on people not paid to help you12:16
youthI've to go!12:16
MidNightRaVeNThe_Vox: it's a media player that someone suggested to me...12:16
DanarThe_Vox: :) thx12:16
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youthnailoth; thank you so much! and the.. nailoth dog O_o thanks!12:16
naliothyouth: we'll be here12:16
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youthk :D12:16
LinuxJonesHappyFool, lol good one :)12:16
The_VoxMidNightRaVeN: uhm...no, what you were suggested is vlc not lvc12:16
youthgood. 'cause. I'm going to need you rofl12:16
DanarMidNightRaVeN: VLC12:17
LufusolOdd... I simply redid the installation exactly as I had the first time and this time grub loaded Ubuntu properly on reboot12:17
MidNightRaVeNThe_Vox: o...12:17
MidNightRaVeNThe_Vox: lol12:17
naliothLufusol: well great!12:17
DanarMidNightRaVeN: stands for vido lan client, i think12:17
flankkHappyFool, you don't get paid for favors.  and i don't need guilt because i didn't bow to your answer.12:17
FreedomzenOk I have a question I just tried to upgrade and got a MD5SUM Mismatch is there any way around this12:17
MidNightRaVeNDanar: work well?12:17
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yep. one of the best12:17
derekHave any of you been able to run Hoary with a Sound Blaster Live! sound card???12:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: personally i don't like the interface, but it plays pretty much anything12:18
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QMarioI cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me? Please? :-[12:18
MidNightRaVeNhmmm =/ can i get it over synaptic?12:18
schasikudzu == hardware probing library?12:18
The_VoxMidNightRaVeN: yes12:18
LufusolI also run Debian and XP so let's see if I can make those available options in Grub now that i have atleast one OS to work from12:18
MidNightRaVeNThe_Vox: sweet12:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: i use xine when i can. then vlc or mplayer when it doesn't play something12:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yes12:18
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MidNightRaVeNDanar: it would be under Multimedia right12:19
MidNightRaVeN?12:19
LinuxJonesQMario, have you looked at >> www.ubuntuguide.org there is a whole section on getting Samba up and running and there are resources on the wiki12:19
DanarMidNightRaVeN: i find xine easy to use, and it plays pretty much everything once you've installed the codecs from the repo12:19
MidNightRaVeNDanar: repo?12:19
HappyFoolgood night *yawn*12:19
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The_VoxDanar: steal the "all codecs" package from the mplayer site and install it in /usr/lib/win32 and you'll stop using vlc and mplayer...except when trying to view corrupted files, mplayer deals better with those12:19
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeah. i don't use the categories though. it's easier to just search for what you're looking for, or apt-get it12:19
DanarMidNightRaVeN: repo = short for repository12:19
DanarThe_Vox: hrm. thx12:20
naliothThe_Vox: i thought those codecs went into /usr/local/lib/codecs12:20
kbrooksuh12:20
MidNightRaVeNyea, it wasnt under the category but a search brought up xine12:20
The_Voxnalioth: I stuck them in /usr/lib/win32 and xine found them12:20
naliothThe_Vox: hmmm12:20
kbrooksnalioth, /usr/local is reserved12:20
The_Voxnalioth: and mplayer found them too12:20
naliothkbrooks: yes i know, its for things YOU install12:21
MidNightRaVeNDanar: do you know if it would be gxine?12:21
The_Voxnalioth: I think the /usr/local/lib/codecs is for when you compile mplayer by hand12:21
DanarMidNightRaVeN: that's the gnome xine interface12:21
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: i prefer the regular xine12:21
naliothThe_Vox: u/l/l/c is recommended on mplayerhq12:21
goldfishget vlc12:21
goldfishthat rocks12:21
kbrooksread: by hand12:21
MidNightRaVeNDanar: xine-ui then?12:21
The_Voxnalioth: right...as I said, it's for when you compile by hand12:21
QMarioVlc, doesn't play sound though on my system.12:21
naliothkbrooks: yes, things you compile12:22
Danarcollect them all :p12:22
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeah12:22
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: that would be xine User Interface12:22
naliothtime for a beer12:22
vladuz976what beer, where?12:22
stan3how do I change the location for the weather toolbar?12:22
MidNightRaVeNDanar: k, thx =) i tried Totem for some Dvds... and I dunno if it was my computer or totem, but they just wouldn't play so I'm gonna try xine first before going any further12:22
DanarMidNightRaVeN: i find xine is great with DVDs & CDs. it has buttons for that. just click & it plays12:23
sexcopter8000mhi, another ubuntu prob, when i try to play sound, i get this error message, "Could not open resource for writing." Any ideas?12:23
DanarMidNightRaVeN: does the menus too, IIRC12:23
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MidNightRaVeNDanar: do you know how to like rip straight to your drive?12:23
LinuxJonesStan2, right click it and hit move12:23
MidNightRaVeNDanar: so you can watch anytime ...12:24
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeh, there's a bunch of apps for that. try searching12:24
stan3linuxjones, lol i mean like the city, zip...12:24
MidNightRaVeNDanar: kk =)12:24
p8ntballer100822hey i was wondering how i could make my apache server a .com adress, could anybody help me12:24
LinuxJonesStan2, haha12:24
QMarioMidNightRaVen, have you tried installing libdvdcss2?12:24
naliothp8ntballer100822: call a web host12:24
DanarMidNightRaVeN: handy sites: google.com/linux & www.sf.net12:24
MidNightRaVeNQMario: dunno what that is...12:24
stan3linuxjones so do you know?12:24
DanarQMario: that's for reading them, not ripping them...12:24
p8ntballer100822you cant do it yourself12:24
p8ntballer100822...12:25
p8ntballer100822from your own computer12:25
naliothp8ntballer100822: no12:25
LinuxJonesStan2, right click >> Preferences >> Location tab12:25
p8ntballer100822cause i already have apache set up12:25
p8ntballer100822oic12:25
DanarMidNightRaVeN: it's a library that lets your apps decode encrytped dvds12:25
stan3linuxjones got it thanks12:25
MidNightRaVeNDanar: o... i'm guessing that xine should do that as well?12:25
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeah12:26
LinuxJonesStan2, :)12:26
DanarMidNightRaVeN: actually, i dunno if it uses that, cause i have it too12:26
DanarMidNightRaVeN: might do it on it's own though12:26
MidNightRaVeNDanar: i just got xine installed... so going to try it but how do you do repository stuff?12:26
DanarMidNightRaVeN: uh, what 'repository stuff'?12:27
MidNightRaVeNDanar: well.... you said you can download codecs from the repository?12:27
nalioths_dogMidNightRaVeN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:27
Aerebuswhats the gui in ubuntu called? X? or Gnome?12:27
nalioths_dogMidNightRaVeN: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:27
naliothAerebus: both12:27
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeh, do a search in description & name for codec12:27
DanarMidNightRaVeN: :p12:27
MidNightRaVeNDanar: lol thx =) i think I'm done bothering you for a bit ;-)12:28
DanarMidNightRaVeN: and see the link nalioths_dog posted for adding repositories12:28
MidNightRaVeNDanar: atleast for now ;-)12:28
MidNightRaVeNkk12:28
Danark. np12:28
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Razor-Xi've decided to start teaching my sister eacs at 612:29
Razor-Xthat'll be her birthday present, a fresh linux install with GNU Emacs12:30
naliothRazor-X: teaching your sisters WHAT?12:30
Razor-Xnalioth: emacs12:30
FikrannHey guys, stupid question: how can one get configured kernel source tree for stock ubuntu kernel?12:30
Razor-X*emacs12:30
bjronanyoe here use wxpython?  I have installed it and looks (when I run eg pycrust) like it is linked against gtk and not gtk2, which doesn't look nice.12:30
DanarRazor-X: lol. i was gonna say "what's eacs? google comes up with german..." :p12:30
naliothRazor-X: they're so young! don't ruin em12:30
Razor-Xthat way, at age 8, she'll surpass just about half the channel ;)12:30
FikrannRazor-X, And die at the age of 30.12:31
Razor-XFikrann: doubt that12:31
naliothbjron: if you use synaptic, you should find lots of python stuff for gtk212:31
Razor-Xshe'll be a kickass sysadmin12:31
Razor-XFikraan: there should be a wiki entry on that12:32
bjronFikrann, mb copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 (or whatever) to your kernel source tree12:32
MidNightRaVeNDanar: real quick question, how do i turn it so that Totem doens't start my DVDs up automatically?12:32
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: hrm. that's probably a gnome setting. poke around in the menus12:33
Fikrannbjron, wxpython is linked against gtk2, but it >sometimes< show up with built-in widgets that look similar to old unthemed gtk.12:33
DanarMidNightRaVeN: can't help much as i'm not on either gnome or ubuntu ATM12:33
Razor-Xshe'll start Dvoraking at 4, though12:33
bjronnalioth, as far as I can tell, that's not gonna help wxpython stuff look better;12:33
MidNightRaVeNDanar: o, =) kk12:33
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bjronFikrann, do you know how to fix that?12:33
Fikrannbjron, I run into this problem once while playing with Breezy ..12:33
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Fikrannbjron, I removed all of wxPython from python site-packages dir and reinstalled it fresh.12:34
bjronFikrann, cause yea, I was reading everywhere that it was linked with gtk2, but then it was definately not following my gtk theme12:34
p8ntballer100822what is the correct spelling for nautalis...?12:34
bjronFikrann, hrm, but I just installed it fresh today!12:34
bjronactually, a brand new hoary install on this machine too :\12:35
sexcopter8000manyone any ideas with my sound problem??12:35
MidNightRaVeNwhat kind of sound card do you have?12:35
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sexcopter8000mwell it's terratec, but it shows as C-Media12:36
sexcopter8000mbut i think that's just the chipset or something like that12:36
MidNightRaVeN=/ dunno then....12:36
Danarcan anyone predict any specific problems i might avoid in switching from debian to ubuntu via switching repositories?12:36
Danardoes this mean there's a good chance it might go smoothly?12:37
redtechok, I have been very happy with so far with my switch to Ubuntu.  I was spoiled with my email and antispam under windows however.  Is there a good combination in ubuntu, like thunderbird or evolution and spamassassin?12:37
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Danarredtech: what's wrong with those?12:38
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bjronredtech, install thunderbird. . .12:38
redtechi cant imagine that people are relying on the built in "filtering"12:38
naliothDanar: you will have lots of version discrepancies12:38
Danarnalioth: what do you mean?12:38
Fikrannc-media works very well in Linux.12:38
naliothredtech: yes, certainly12:38
redtechDanar: nothing wrong.. whats the "proper" combination? How do I configure the two to sleep together?12:39
naliothDanar: sarge, sid and etch are too similar to ubuntu for a smooth transition via sources.list swap12:39
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sexcopter8000mFikrann, do you know much about c-media and linux?12:39
Xyc0Cool and admin is here12:39
Xyc0an*12:39
Speedy2sexcopter8000m: It's supported12:40
Danarnalioth: what? i would think similarity would ease the switch, not hinder it12:40
Speedy2sexcopter8000m: You might have to compile a new version of the kernel12:40
naliothredtech: you can use caching proxys, virus-sniffing proxys, whatever you want to do12:40
naliothDanar: ubuntu has its own pkgs12:40
Fikrannsexcopter8000m, I've been using c-media 878 based card for quite some time.12:40
Xyc0What is the name of the project that uses graphics on boot up?12:40
naliothDanar: ubuntu and debian pkgs don't mix very well12:40
sexcopter8000merk.... i'm not sure if my experience permits me to compile new kernels :s12:40
Danarnalioth: what's the ubuntu equivalent of testing called?12:41
Xyc0sexcopter8000m: its not as scary as it sounds12:41
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ElsidoxDanar, Breezy12:41
Xyc0Danar: Breezy12:41
Danarthx12:41
Elsidox=)12:41
Xyc0I win12:41
Xyc0:D12:41
Elsidoxlol12:41
Danarlol12:41
FikrannXyc0, you might be interested in fbsplash12:41
Danarhere's a cookie :p12:41
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MidNightRaVeNdo you guys know how i can turn Totem in Gnome off so that it doesn't autoplay?12:42
Xyc0Fikrann: is that the one FC4 uses?12:42
sexcopter8000mwhat's the underlying point in it? I'm guessing that when one compiles a kernal on a local machine, it makes one that is compiled around the exact hardware setup, rather than a generic one for all machines... is that a reasonable guess?12:42
DanarMidNightRaVeN: might poke around in totem's settings actually...12:42
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FikrannXyc0, no. That's the one Gentoo is using.12:42
TPCI just installed gpdf, but the default pdf viewer in gnome is still xpdf. I can't find where to change it, so how do I find the menu where I change it?12:42
MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea... still looking and I'm not finding anything just yet...12:42
naliothDanar: i dont think there is one12:43
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Danarnalioth: one what?12:43
naliothsexcopter8000m: when you compile your own kernel, it only has drivers for your box12:43
Xyc0.12:43
naliothsexcopter8000m: reducing the size (and load time) considerably12:43
MidNightRaVeNlol i fixed it... but it's kinda cheating... guess it'll work for now till i figure out more12:43
naliothDanar: 'testing'12:43
FikrannTPC, right click on a pdf, select properties, switch to Open with tab, select gpdf on the list.12:44
Danarnalioth: couple birdies told me it was Breezy...12:44
TPCFikrann, ok, thanks12:44
sexcopter8000mso it's a good thing to do even if you don't have a problem to fix?12:44
serengetiTPC try looking into Properties of some pdf file, .... oh well Fikrann's been faster :D12:44
Speedy2sexcopter8000m: In addition, when you compile your own kernel, you don't have to load support for you devices via modules, saves space and time12:44
sexcopter8000mand i take it there's a plethora of walkthroughs if i look on google?12:44
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Speedy2sexcopter8000m: I do, but it can lead to problems if you mess it up12:44
Danarhoary is like stable, right?12:44
naliothDanar: then that must be it, note the /topic12:45
naliothsexcopter8000m: if you desire12:45
Danarnalioth: hrm. what's that about?12:45
naliothDanar: yes it's stable12:45
Danarwhat's the other one?12:45
naliothDanar: as in "dont use breezy"?12:45
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Danarhoary, breezy... ?12:45
sexcopter8000mwell that being the case, i'll do some reading and ask any questions before i embark12:45
sexcopter8000mbut not tonight, i is too sleepy :)12:45
Danarnalioth: yeh, i see that. i'm asking why12:45
sexcopter8000msorry, totally unrelated noob question, what's nautilus?12:46
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Danar!nautilus12:46
ubotuDanar: I don't know12:46
naliothDanar: because breezy is in active development now and is pretty ugly for normal use12:46
Danar... no bot?12:46
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Danarah12:46
aabondage.com12:46
naliothDanar: its !info nautilus12:46
sexcopter8000m!info nautilus12:46
serengetisexcopter8000m, it's the capt. Nemo's famous submarine :)12:46
Danarnalioth: ah. thx12:46
ubotunautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.0-0ubuntu9 (hoary), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2588 kB12:46
sexcopter8000m... oO12:47
bjronFikrann, oh, wow, reinstalling wxpython fixed it;  I think installing boa-constructor first was my problem maybe12:47
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bjronFikrann, thanks for the tip12:47
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serengetisexcopter8000m, http://www.cshobbies.com/images/nautilus-30%20in.jpg :)12:48
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Danarsexcopter8000m: yer basic file manager12:48
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Aerebusin Ubuntu 5.04, when i goto System > Theme what kind of themes are those? i'm looking at gnome-look.org what section should i be looking at?12:48
Fikrannbjron, You're welcome .. you might want to try wxGlade, btw, if you're serious about using wxPython.12:48
QMarioHow do I see another Ubuntu computer on my network?12:48
bjronFikrann, *nod* I might, thank :)12:48
FreedomzenW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb MD5Sum mismatch12:48
Freedomzenany way around that12:48
Speedy2Freedomzen: Yes, remove the "us." in your /etc/sources.list12:49
Speedy2Apparently the US servers have some issues with MD5 susms12:49
Speedy2sums12:49
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naliothFreedomzen: the repos are wonky today12:49
Freedomzenthank you12:49
GenericBobHi, i was wondering how to install stuff on ubuntu, like XMMS, the RPM doesnt seem to be the way, and when i try ./configure it say i dont have a valid compiler in the path, so i was wondering if it has a nice little plug & play installer like gentoo EMERGE12:49
Freedomzenthanks all12:49
bjronGenericBob, apt-get12:49
Danar md5sum libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb12:49
Danara6caae961c40c760fe782c091c7bfc39  libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb12:49
holycowGenericBob, wtf?12:49
naliothFreedomzen: you may edit off the us. prefacing the archive.ubuntu.blah, and be fixed up12:49
Danaryou know what it's supposed to be?12:49
Speedy2GenericBob:  Try to apt-get install gcc (that should get you the core utils, including binutils)12:49
naliothGenericBob: use synaptic12:49
jasoncohenGenericBob, you use apt-get or synaptic12:49
serengetiGenericBob system -> administration => synaptic package manager :D12:49
nalioths_dogGenericBob: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:50
nalioths_dogGenericBob: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:50
naliothSpeedy2: its 'build-essential'12:50
GenericBobok thx all thats the tip i needed :)12:50
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naliothSpeedy2: not 'gcc'12:50
Speedy2nalioth:  Thanks.  GenericBob:  I guess you need to apt-get install build-essential :)12:50
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Speedy2nalioth:  I ended up doing it via aptittude, and I selected gcc, apologies.12:51
Danarnalioth: breezy is in active development? isn't there an equivalent to unstable for that?12:51
naliothSpeedy2: build-essential gets you the whole compilation set12:51
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jasoncohennalioth, i never received a registration email. what should i do?12:51
Danarand how come the first version i heard of was 4 or 5? what about 1, 2... ?12:51
naliothDanar: i dont think ubuntu follows debians levels of preparedness12:51
naliothjasoncohen: did you see any error msgs?12:52
GenericBobyeah, i think its the minimum :) By the way each time i try to install stuff or install upgrade it prompt for password, ive tried the user password and the root password but both of them exit application with status 112:52
jasoncohennalioth, no- and i know the mail server is working because i signed up for a bugzilla account and received one immediately12:52
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Danarnalioth: that seems to imply it's just starting and hasn't developed that many levels yet, but apparently ubuntu is at version 5 now...12:52
naliothDanar: version numbers are year and month warty 4.10 (2004 october), hoary 5.04 (2005, april), etc12:52
serengetidanar ubuntu's version numbers come from the date when a version is released. year and month12:52
jasoncohennalioth, oh, and a backports developer fixed konversation to work with KDE 3.4.012:53
naliothjasoncohen: i can only suggest trying again12:53
Danari see12:53
GenericBobThats what it say: Child terminated with 1 status12:53
naliothjasoncohen: thats good, since some of us are using 3.4.112:53
GenericBobEchec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic:12:53
GenericBobChild terminated with 1 status12:53
Danarso next will be 5.1?12:53
naliothGenericBob: that msg is meaningless12:53
Razor-Xsomeone terminated me?12:53
serengeti5.04 = 2005, april12:53
Razor-X;)12:53
jasoncohennalioth, well, it'll work with 3.4.0 or higher12:53
naliothDanar: next will be breezy badger 5.1012:54
serengetidanar, add 6 months12:54
Razor-Xok i'm sorry ;)12:54
Danarso i was right12:54
GenericBobnalioth, indeed ill try to reboot to see if its still doing it12:54
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jacky^hi12:54
naliothGenericBob: no rebooting12:54
Danarwell, missing a zero. habit12:54
naliothGenericBob: this is not windows, where when you sneeze, you reboot12:54
GenericBobnalioth: then what do you suggest?12:54
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naliothGenericBob: did your program run?12:55
Danarspeaking of which... i have to reboot :p12:55
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GenericBobnalioth: nope, all application that seem to need password seem to crash after password prompt12:55
MidNightRaVeNdude... i can't figure out where i should get codecs....12:55
naliothGenericBob: open a terminal and type "sudo synaptic"12:55
Razor-Xgah!12:55
naliothMidNightRaVeN: www.mplayerhq.hu12:56
Razor-Xwhy doesen't (global-set-key "\C-x\C-kl" 'lax-compile) work if M-x lax-compile does :(12:56
jacky^I get a repeted msg in dmesg: ACPI: Error reading LCD status, where can I disable acpi ?12:56
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: but will it go through synaptic... or will i have to do it manually?12:56
ubuntu_how do i ssh into my other ubuntu box on the network?12:57
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GenericBobnalioth: great it seem that my root password has changed since the installation12:57
naliothMidNightRaVeN: there is some way to use synaptic to get the codecs, but i dont recommend it12:57
Speedy2ubuntu_:  Is an ssh server installed on your other machine?12:57
Razor-XGenericBob: there is no root password12:57
ubuntu_yes12:57
Razor-X!sudo12:57
ubotuI guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:57
nalioths_dogGenericBob: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:57
Speedy2ubuntu_: "ssh -2 user@server.IP"12:57
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk =/12:57
ubuntu_kk thank you12:57
Speedy2ubuntu_:  Type that at a command prompt12:57
GenericBobflegare@you-are-here:~$ sudo synaptic12:57
GenericBobPassword:12:57
GenericBobflegare is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.12:57
Speedy2Rather, consule12:58
sexcopter8000mok, trying to get latest version of Gaim, but the autopackage version on this page seems to be a dead link, anyone got it locally they can send, or know of any mirrors?12:58
ubuntu_and how do i use live cd to get what i want on my hard drive?12:58
serengetiit's 1 am here in Poland and I've just started wondering, why am I not asleep? :)12:58
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Razor-Xsexcopter8000m: sudo apt-get install gaim12:58
naliothserengeti: friday night?12:58
naliothbrb12:58
Freedomzenok I have installed the headers for my kernel and the source... but the nvidia installer still complains about target kernel version is there a workaround?12:58
serengetinalioth, yep, but it's already saturday, sadly12:58
Razor-XFreedomzen: what's the complaint?12:59
Freedomzen Unable to determine the target kernel version12:59
sexcopter8000mwell that says i have the latest version.... hmmm12:59
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sexcopter8000mthe latest is 1.4.0, but i've got 1.1.412:59
GenericBobnalioth: so i gess there is a sudoers file where i need to add my user12:59
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Razor-Xhey, you vi bubs out there, make me a powerful vi macro XD01:00
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The_VoxGenericBob: you need to add the user to the wheel group01:00
sexcopter8000mi think 1.1.4 is the latest that comes as a debian package01:00
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GenericBobnevermind i just read the place where it talk about it :)01:00
Razor-XFreedomzen: can't you manually feed nvidia the version?01:00
ubuntu_bdebbian you there?01:00
hoslerWhere can I get some good eye candy for gnome?01:00
Razor-Xhosler: first, go shower in syrup01:01
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Razor-X;)01:01
FreedomzenRazor-X, not that I know of I thought installing the header files for my kernel would fix that01:01
serengetihosler, www.gnomelook.org01:01
Razor-Xthat's my reccomendation to all of you that obsessed with eye-candy ;)01:01
hoslerI tried using superkaramba, but the transparency doesnt work.01:01
Freedomzenhosler, go to www.guistyles.com01:01
Razor-XFreedomzen: not always01:01
GenericBobnalioth: well it say to add my user using User & Group but this application have the same problem, it ask for password then fail...01:01
Freedomzen:(01:01
battlecatwhats the diff between a i586 and an i686 aside from 10001:02
serengetihosler if you want shadows and this kind of stuff, grab xcompmgr from synaptic and add some magic lines to your xorg.conf... and here you go01:02
Razor-Xthat's because superkaramba is a KDE application, and so I doubt it can support Gnome transparency01:02
Razor-Xbattlecat: ....01:02
Razor-Xthe 100 doesen't mean much01:02
Razor-Xthis is a good lesson for all you people ;)01:03
hoslerserengeti, I was thinking more like osxbars, system info apps, and other stuff like that on my desktop.01:03
Razor-Xthe first, highly marketable IBM PC out there was called the 808601:03
Razor-Xit has something to do with the number of registers and such, i'm not going to get into it01:03
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serengetihosler, it's gdesklets then01:03
battlecatSo what is the diff with the ones I asked about01:03
Freedomzenhosler, adesklets or gdesklets01:04
GenericBobThe_Vox: Ok but i dont see any group wheel in the /etc/group file :(01:04
jasoncohennalioth, ok, i signed up01:04
Razor-Xcorresponding itterations of the processors included more stuff with registrs01:04
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Razor-Xthe 8086 was superceded by the 8028601:04
hoslerok thanks01:04
Razor-Xthen the 8038601:04
FreedomzenGenericBob, I just use a root passwd and bypass sudo completly01:04
Razor-Xthen the 8048601:04
Freedomzenit works for me01:04
Razor-Xthe 80486 was the first to host extended registers01:04
serengetihosler, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/01:05
Razor-Xand thus, was given the prefix "i486"01:05
The_VoxGenericBob: uhm...never mind, not wheel here either...seems to be either adm or admin you need the user in01:05
Danarjust ordered some more CDs :)01:05
dbernar1dude who does not know this, it was like 10 years ago01:05
battlecatwill a distro that is made for i586 work better than a distro made for i386 on a P3?01:05
Razor-Xthat's why 1286 and i386 are a bit misleading, but, ok......01:05
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: there isn't a codec folder in my /usr/local/lib... should i create one? and how do i create one since it's locked?01:05
Razor-Xbattlecat: if you think a little after reading my description... yes....01:05
battlecatwell you know about assumptions01:06
FreedomzenMidNightRaVeN, install the gstreamer metapkg and watch stuff in totem01:06
battlecatand typos01:06
GenericBobIts a bit sad that so far what i need to fix the problem is affected by the same problem that, kinda make me stuck...01:06
MidNightRaVeNFreedomzen: lol everyone tells me something different ;-) does that work well?01:06
DanarMidNightRaVeN: if a folder or file is 'locked' then you don't have permissions because you either aren't the owner, or aren't root01:06
dbernar1or both01:06
serengetihave a good night... or day... have a good whatever :) I'm falling asleeeeeee01:06
serengetip01:06
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The_VoxGenericBob: what's the problem?01:07
FreedomzenMidNightRaVeN, for me it did when I had Ubuntu installed b4 but now I need to get nvidia working01:07
serengetibye01:07
dbernar1see ya serengeti ...you in africa?01:07
DanarMidNightRaVeN: just a note in case you don't know... never log in as root, except in a terminal, and only if necessary. use sudo instead01:07
serengetidbernar1 no, eastern europe :)01:07
serengetiPoland01:07
dbernar1cool. good night01:07
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MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea! see... how do you use sudo to open up the folder and create a codec folder inside?01:07
Freedomzensudo mkdir foldername?01:08
hoslerserengeti, thanks01:08
GenericBobThe_Vox: every admin application on ubuntu need a password, when i provide the password it say:  Fail: Child terminated with 1 status01:08
MidNightRaVeNkk01:08
MidNightRaVeN*trying*01:08
DanarMidNightRaVeN: if you want to create a sub folder, then in a terminal, put 'sudo mkdir foldername'01:08
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The_VoxGenericBob: uhm...even in console?01:08
EddieHi guys, im having a problem with DNS01:08
DanarMidNightRaVeN: use the full path if you can't cd into that dir first01:08
Eddieresolv.conf keeps reverting to "search" and my routers ip as its contents01:09
Eddiedespite my having edited it to match my real dns settings01:09
Eddieit continues to revert01:09
DanarMidNightRaVeN: another handy tip if you don't know: use tab completion01:09
GenericBobThe_Vox: in the console i get the user  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.01:09
lamentconfigureaEddie did you edit the document with "sudo" ?01:09
MidNightRaVeNused the full path and it worked =D thx! Do you know anyone if Xine will import codecs from /usr/local/lib/codecs like mplayer?01:09
FreedomzenEddie, is there a script in /etc/init.d that deals with DNS?01:09
Eddielamentconfigurea: yeah, it works for a while01:09
lamentconfigureaweard01:09
MidNightRaVeNor do all players look in that directory?01:09
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The_VoxGenericBob: uhm...my guess is that you are going to have to get in in single-user mode and work from there to fix it...but I'm not sure if you actually can.01:10
DanarMidNightRaVeN: sudo = Super User DO. ie, do as super user (root)01:10
DanarMidNightRaVeN: you can use it to run just about any command as root01:10
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GenericBobIf the reboot dont work ill try to patch this problem using gentoo ;)01:10
hosleranyone here get counter-strike to play on linux? Just want to know if its worth trying.01:10
MidNightRaVeNDanar: i just haven't learned all the mkdir, and such commands yet...01:11
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeh.. they're handy to know. use 'man' frequently01:11
MidNightRaVeNDanar: will do =) how do you extract files into the folder once you are ready though? with like the sudo command?01:11
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GMachine_24I have been unable to install the "help" files for The Gimp. I get a checksum error message for one of the files that is supposed to b01:12
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GMachine_24be downloaded. sorry.01:12
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dabaRthank goodness that the nick became available...01:12
DanarMidNightRaVeN: you can either change the permissions on the folder, or do it as root. as i said, you can run most commands as root with sudo: 'sudo command arguments'01:12
dabaRIve been waiting for days...01:13
DanarMidNightRaVeN: see 'man sudo'01:13
dabaRI should register it01:13
MidNightRaVeNkk01:13
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dabaR!rootsude01:13
ubotuNo idea, dabaR01:13
dabaR!rootsudo01:13
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:13
MidNightRaVeNthere?01:13
dabaRya, read that.01:13
MidNightRaVeNkk01:13
dabaRabout the root.01:13
Eddiehmm01:13
dabaRmhm.01:13
GMachine_24anyone else try to download the "help" files for the gimp?01:13
dabaRtried again, GMachine_24 , I mean, a checksum error means bad download...01:14
DanarDanar: since you're doing stuff in /usr/lib or whatever, best to run the command with sudo, rather than changing permissions01:14
dabaR*tried again?01:14
dabaRnice, teh guy is talking to himself on IRC.01:14
GMachine_24I have tried for a couple days. But am willing to keep at it.01:14
dabaR:P01:14
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dabaRyou use a router?01:14
MidNightRaVeNDanar: i just gotta find out what the sudo command is to extra files though01:15
DanardabaR: your client have replacements? ;)01:15
GMachine_24do I use a router? yes.01:15
dabaRit says <danar> danar: blah...01:15
DanarMidNightRaVeN: er, no. you need the command to extract files or whatever it is you're trying to do. then just put sudo in front of it to do it as root01:15
dabaRGMachine_24: try withou the router, higher chance of correct download.01:15
GMachine_24ok. thanks.01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea of my ftp question?01:15
EddieCan anyone suggest a good peer to peer client for ubuntu01:15
owlmanattHowdy, having some monitor troubles. I rebooted today and my dual-head setup has gone whack. The 21" monitor won't work at 1024x768 anymore, but 1600x1200 is fine for it...anyone know what would cause this? TwinView with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200, nvidia modules, kernel 2.6.10-386.01:15
Eddieand a good bittorrent client01:15
Eddieby peer to peer I meant gnutella201:16
MidNightRaVeNDanar: oooo lol01:16
The_VoxEddie: azureus for BT01:16
GMachine_24azureus agreed01:16
The_VoxEddie: for p2p amule01:16
DanardabaR: huh? i said that cause you said 'teh'. you should be able to have it automatically replace it with 'the' (or anything else for that matter)01:16
MidNightRaVeNDanar: k then.. i need to know the extract command for terminal =D01:16
EddieThe_Vox, the java one?01:16
Eddieok thanks01:16
DanarMidNightRaVeN: could be tar, unzip, unrar, etc01:16
The_VoxEddie: yup, the java one...I have java, but azureus rocks. Just "sudo aptitude install azureus" and it'll deal with the java installation01:16
dabaRDanar: no, irssi, maybe  it does it, dunno01:16
DanarMidNightRaVeN: prolly tar. 'man tar'01:17
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dabaRextract waht?01:17
MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea, it just says .tar.bz201:17
Danargood question...01:17
MidNightRaVeNlol01:17
MidNightRaVeNwindows?01:17
MidNightRaVeN;-)01:17
MidNightRaVeNsome codecs i'm trying to use for playing a DVD01:17
DanarMidNightRaVeN: is this your idea of ripping...?01:17
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Danarheh01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know anything about pureftpd?01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike should i get it?01:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: you ought to be able to extract it in nautilus or something01:18
GMachine_24I tried again and got same nonsense - that I should file a bug report and E: broken packages01:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: you don't have to do everything in the terminal01:18
GMachine_24I tried apt-get install gimp-help01:18
DanarMidNightRaVeN: oh yeah... no permissions01:18
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you can install and try ALL ftp servers01:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok01:18
liz4rd:P anyone elses ubuntu cd's come in today?01:19
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: as long as they aren't running at the same time, they wont cause any trouble01:19
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: tar xzjf file.tar.bz201:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYliz4rd !! hey whats up01:19
dabaRI think, I will check.01:19
MidNightRaVeNyea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it01:19
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY: pureftpd is good, so is vsftpd01:19
liz4rdhey man nm01:19
MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it01:19
flegareThe first time i launch a "Admin" application in ubuntu it prompt for password, i type it, then the prompt disapear, then nothing.... When i try to relaunch a "admin" application i get the Child terminated with 1 status. I guess its not a normal beavior anyone know what is the problem????01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i just want something easy01:19
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liz4rddabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz101:19
liz4rddabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz201:19
naliothMidNightRaVeN: untar it into your home dir first01:19
dabaRso then I said it right, oh no i didnt.01:20
MidNightRaVeNkk *goes to untaring*01:20
liz4rdlol01:20
GMachine_24fleg: no. did you try application>sytem tools>root terminal?01:20
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liz4rdChurcH_of_FoamY: hows penguin?01:20
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: done01:20
owlmanatt...Or it could randomly work for no reason at all...01:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdon't know01:20
liz4rdwhere has he been latly?01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYhaven't gone in there in a while cause theres some jerks in ther01:21
flegareGMachine_24: same deal01:21
liz4rdwho?01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYdon't know01:21
liz4rduniq?01:21
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naliothMidNightRaVeN: we are working with the w32 codecs, right?01:21
GMachine_24hmm. fleg i don't know what to say.01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYgodsmoke and his cownes01:21
ghostdogI am having problems with cups, I want to add windows client drivers but no luck01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYcrownes01:21
flegareGMachine_24: prompt then crash, they are all under the same "Security" system01:21
liz4rdChurcH_of_FoamY: i'll come in one day and tell them all off :P01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat would be awsome01:22
liz4rdthen uniq will whip out chanserv cuz he's a bitch :P01:22
flegareis there a log where i can find interesting clue about what is going on?01:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYnice01:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:22
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: dunno... it's the codecs from mplayerhq.hu01:22
Protequedoes anyone by any chance have serverguide 6.0.9 or some other version supporting Netfinity 5100? I have lost my cd and IBM only have newer versions availible for downloads :(01:22
GMachine_24fleg: good question01:22
root________I just installed ubuntu on my girlfriend's PC, and the wireless isn't yet working..  the website for the card that's built in says to use madwifi, but I don't know how to make the ubuntu install use madwifi01:22
DanarMidNightRaVeN: did you check what's _in_ the file first?01:22
dabaRwe can tell.01:22
dabaRyou are root01:22
liz4rdhahahahah01:22
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: are you sure it has the codecs, and only the codecs in them? might also have source, etc. IOW, things you don't need in /usr/lib01:23
MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea... and it has a readme that says to put all the files into /usr/local/lib/codecs01:23
root________dabaR, actually, I'm booted into windows so I can get tech support without running to the back room :)01:23
DanarMidNightRaVeN: k01:23
GMachine_24well that was weird. i almost crashed my computer.01:23
dabaR:)01:23
naliothMidNightRaVeN: ok open a terminal01:23
liz4rdaterm to be exact01:23
Danarroot________: shouldn't IRC as root01:23
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk, opened01:23
dabaRhes in windows.01:23
Danarapparently not01:24
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root________Danar, it's kinda hard not to in windows..  EVERY user ir root >,.,<01:24
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/libs/codecs01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea he just won't leave me alone every time i go in there he makes mean jokes about me01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike calling me a retard >.<01:24
liz4rdlol01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea pisses me off01:24
liz4rdawe poor you01:24
Danaruser: ~root@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net01:24
Danar~root01:25
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: stay out01:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:25
Danaryou put that on purpose?01:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk01:25
liz4rd:P01:25
GMachine_24I wish someone would bring me ice cream.01:25
dabaRbuy slaves.01:25
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: no need to hang out with assholes, when you can hang out with us01:25
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: wierd... it says there isn't such a directory...01:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYgood point01:26
naliothMidNightRaVeN: thats good01:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu users seem to be nicer ^_^01:26
Danarroot________: and technically, there is no root on windows01:26
The_VoxdabaR: why buy slaves when you can find them on many places for free? :)01:26
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: o lol01:26
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs01:26
root________Danar, xchat lets me fake all those responses :)01:26
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liz4rdwtf #kubuntu is WAY more fun then this shit hole01:26
liz4rd:P01:26
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GMachine_24so.........01:26
gbicAnyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl?01:26
liz4rdyou guys are to OMG STAY ON TOPIC01:26
dabaRyour point being?01:26
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Danarroot________: you're not faking your ip. anyone can change their username. it's not 'faking' it. i'm asking if you did it on purpose01:27
dabaRliz4rd: there is a reason to that.01:27
root________Danar, anyway...  all users are so called super users...  therefore every user is root :)01:27
GMachine_24what's the topic01:27
liz4rdsee you guys are doing it right now01:27
liz4rd:P01:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYliz4rd man chill it's all cool here man01:27
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root________Danar, yes, I made all of the xchat responses come up as "root"01:27
liz4rdgood01:27
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs01:27
MidNightRaVeNPassword:01:27
MidNightRaVeNmkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory01:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYhands liz4rd a shot of bacardi 15101:27
MidNightRaVeN?01:27
Danarroot________: no... early versions of windows have no root or admin user. later versions have admin accounts, which is similar to root, but not the same01:27
liz4rdok i'm good now01:27
dabaRadd -r after mkdir01:27
liz4rd:P01:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:28
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: when i browse for it... it does show up...01:28
Danarroot________: k. just checking01:28
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liz4rdjoint*01:28
liz4rdjoint*01:28
dabaRwow, weird...01:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYok installed pure ftpd how to run?01:28
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liz4rdftpd?01:28
naliothMidNightRaVeN: probably better to use the address in the readme /usr/local/lib/codecs01:28
dabaRhow about I pass a ban to liz4rd :))01:28
liz4rdi think01:28
AerebusCan anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme?01:28
liz4rddabaR: do it01:28
root________liz4rd, when you can't spell it, it's time to stop smoking it01:28
liz4rdif it makes you feel big01:28
dabaRChurcH_of_FoamY: it is runing already likely.01:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.pureftpd.org/01:28
liz4rdroot________: lol word01:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYshit then how to configure01:28
dabaRfind its config file, maybe in /etc01:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYit looked like it had a graphical user interface01:29
ZiggityHI. I used synaptic to install wideStudio .. Buts its not in Applications->Programming and I cannot launch it using the Run menu ( using wideStudio ) anyone can Help????01:29
dabaRshit, why shit if it is running?01:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why i installed it01:29
DanarMidNightRaVeN: that's a confusing error, lol01:29
liz4rdLOL01:29
naliothZiggity: have you been to the apps homepage/faqs?01:29
liz4rdi had the best error01:29
MidNightRaVeNyea lol look...01:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need the pics lol01:29
liz4rdtotem crashed01:29
liz4rdno reqason01:29
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs01:29
MidNightRaVeNls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory01:29
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs01:29
MidNightRaVeNls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory01:29
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs01:29
GMachine_24you rock liz01:29
MidNightRaVeNPassword:01:29
MidNightRaVeNmkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory01:29
Ziggitynalioth, No!01:29
liz4rdthat was the error :P01:29
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs/01:29
MidNightRaVeNls: /usr/local/libs/codecs/: No such file or directory01:30
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/01:30
MidNightRaVeNmkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory01:30
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$01:30
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: ahem. shouldn't paste in here01:30
naliothMidNightRaVeN: quit pasting01:30
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: we saw it.01:30
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MidNightRaVeNsorry =X01:30
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: I told you add a -r after the mkdir01:30
naliothMidNightRaVeN: use /usr/local/lib/codecs01:30
DanarMidNightRaVeN: there's rafb.net/paste and stuff liek that for pasting01:30
js_dabaR: the flag is -p, not -r01:30
naliothdabaR: i gave him the wrong dir name01:30
dabaRor do what nalioth said, taht is better.01:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYlooks through documentation to see how to turn on the gui01:30
Ziggitynalioth: is there something There?01:30
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naliothZiggity: yes, how to use it for one01:30
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Danarturn on the gui? heh...01:31
Ziggitynalioth:  I cannot launch it .. Don't know where or how to from Hoary?01:31
bhearsumanyone here using an orinoco_cs card in hoary?01:31
trebuchethow can i mount my ntfs drive so that any user can access it?01:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYliz4ed pass that shit here man ^_^01:31
bhearsumuse -o uid01:31
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bhearsum-o uid=youruid (usually 1000)01:31
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DanarMidNightRaVeN: did you use tab completion?01:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhit's it and passes it back01:32
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dabaRliz4rd licks my toe.01:32
naliothZiggity: does wide<whatever> have a homepage?01:32
dabaRhaha01:32
liz4rdhahahahhaah01:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYblows some into room O_o01:32
liz4rdhahahah01:32
liz4rd:P01:32
liz4rdlol i just love licking toes01:32
DanarMidNightRaVeN: type the first few chars, and hit tab, and it completes it for you01:32
nalioths_dogtrebuchet: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically01:32
dabaRZiggity: have you tried typing in widestudio in a terminal?01:32
tmahoneyt11Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu onto my PC01:32
tmahoneyt11?01:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYok some one can help me with this pure ftpd?01:32
naliothMidNightRaVeN: how we doing?01:32
dabaRwidestudio<enter>01:32
MidNightRaVeNDanar: yea... but now it says - r is an invalid option... is that right?? sudo mkir -r?01:32
root________can someone help me set up my wireless card ?  I can go boot onto the wired lan in ubuntu..  get my ass back in here fast..  but It doesn't seem to work right now01:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYit show a picture of a gui on it's site01:32
ZiggitydabaR, Yes.. http://www.widestudio.org/EE/index.html01:33
naliothtmahoneyt11: boot the install cd, and follow the instructions01:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i want to know how to get to that gui01:33
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GMachine_24tmahoney: what have you tried?01:33
tmahoneyt11It doesn't work01:33
DanarMidNightRaVeN: man mkdir :p01:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o01:33
dabaRZiggity: that was not my question, I asked something else.01:33
naliothZiggity: have you been there, and read the FAQ/documentation?01:33
trebuchetand just put that crap in /etc ?01:33
naliothMidNightRaVeN: are you here?01:33
Ziggityoopss.01:33
dabaRi bet widestudio in a terminal works.01:33
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: yea lol i think i figured something out...01:33
dabaR$2(Im a high roller.)01:34
ZiggitydabaR, not in the terminal but in the 'Run Application' menu01:34
GMachine_24tmahoney have you just tried booting from the ubuntu cd?01:34
naliothMidNightRaVeN: you do not need any -x stuff01:34
eruinhell01:34
DanarMidNightRaVeN: as you can see in 'man mkdir' there's no -r option01:34
naliothMidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs"01:34
eruingnome 2.12 will be based on gtk 2.8!01:34
eruincairo!01:34
MidNightRaVeNcan i paste a two liner?01:34
naliothtmahoneyt11: you should check your iso images against the md5 checksum on the d/l site01:34
liz4rdMidNightRaVeN: yes01:34
Danar<MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/01:34
Danar<MidNightRaVeN> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory01:34
naliothMidNightRaVeN: YOU ARE NOT LISTENING01:35
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MidNightRaVeNlol i'm trying!!!01:35
liz4rdsudo apt-get install w32codecs01:35
MidNightRaVeNthere are so many people talking!!!01:35
trebuchetwhat do i do with http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab ?01:35
naliothMidNightRaVeN: READ THIS NEXT01:35
MidNightRaVeNall the voices in my head!!!!01:35
naliothMidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs"01:35
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liz4rdsudo apt-get install w32codecs01:35
gnub33hey01:35
liz4rdsudo apt-get install w32codecs01:35
GMachine_24i'm back. hooray.01:35
naliothtrebuchet: execute it01:35
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk01:35
trebuchetlooks like its a bash script so i guess i'd want to run it at startup01:35
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Danarnalioth: if you bothered to check the paste, he already did01:35
MidNightRaVeNkk... tried it and it says the file exists now01:36
naliothtmahoneyt11: go to where you d/l the iso image and get the md5 checksum for the image you d/l01:36
naliothDanar: he has "libs" not "lib"01:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone know how to get to the gui of pure-ftpd?01:36
SpecialBuddyIs there a way to make gaim act like msn to the point where it blinks if someone sends you a message01:36
MidNightRaVeNravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs/01:36
MidNightRaVeNmkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/codecs/': File exists01:36
gnub33I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default?????01:36
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Danarnalioth: oops. my bad. didn't see that01:36
root________hey..  if ubuntu can make a ubuntu livecd, why can't ubuntu make an X based ubuntu installer CD ?01:36
naliothMidNightRaVeN: GREAT!01:36
ZiggityHow can I find Where an application has installed tO01:36
othernoobis it possible to play 10 year old games with wine in decent speed? last time i tried on xp it was way too fast01:36
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: lol kk01:36
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now navigate in the terminal to the directory with your codecs in it01:36
DanarMidNightRaVeN: that's why tab completion helps. use it. frequently01:37
eruintrebuchet, that script looks harmless01:37
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MidNightRaVeNnalioth: the extracted ones?01:37
SpecialBuddyanyone01:37
naliotheruin: that script was written by seveas to automates fstab entry01:37
trebuchetyup, i figured it would be, coming from ubunutulinux.org01:37
naliothMidNightRaVeN: yes, that directory01:37
MidNightRaVeNDanar: did the second time around and that's the only reason i figured it out ;-)01:37
SpecialBuddyanyone know if you can do that with gaim01:37
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk01:37
eruinallit does.nl, not .org01:37
naliotheruin: seveas is from .nl01:38
gbicAnyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl?01:38
erikpHi all.  I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, but when I try to log in, nothing happens.  I just get a dark brown screen and a cursor.  The Failsafe Terminal login works, but Failsafe Gnome doesn't.  Can anyone help?01:38
root________I'ma boot into ubuntu and I'll be back shortly...01:38
dabaRwsbuilder for widestudio01:38
SpecialBuddyanyone know anything about gaim01:38
naliotherikp: any error msgs of any kind?01:38
erikpnalioth: nothing pops up.  It just sits there01:38
Razor-Xhahahahahahaha!!!01:38
trebuchethmm01:38
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk, i'm in the folder01:39
Razor-Xback to emacsing01:39
trebuchethow am i supposed to run it?01:39
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gnub33I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!01:39
trebuchetnormal users don't have permission and sudo ./blah doesn't work either01:39
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo cp ./* /usr/local/lib/codecs"01:39
dabaRwhy someone would use such an ugly looking application escapes me.01:39
SpecialBuddyanyone know anything about gaim01:39
gnub33somebody please help01:40
naliothtrebuchet: use "sudo -s" and then "sh ./win_mac>whatever"01:40
dabaRit is a multiprotocol messaging client for Windows and Unix.01:40
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: with the asterick after /?01:40
dabaRit is not to be spelled gAIM.01:40
naliothMidNightRaVeN: you are copying all files in the dir into the codecs dir. that is what the * means (all files)01:40
DanarMidNightRaVeN: yeh. copy & paste that01:40
DanarMidNightRaVeN: * is a wildcard01:40
dabaRctrl+p is the keybnoard shortcut for the properties window from the buddy list.01:41
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk, i hit enter and it just pops back to the folder again.. guessing it finished01:41
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dabaRthe default icon is a yellow human like figure, resembling the AIM icon.01:41
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/"01:41
dabaRthe website is gaim.sourceforge.net. DO I win anything for knowing all this about gaim?01:41
DanarMidNightRaVeN: usually that means success. otherwise it gives an error/info message01:42
SpecialBuddyit's called gaim01:42
MidNightRaVeNDanar: kk01:42
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MidNightRaVeNDanar: =)01:42
ZiggityWhen you use synaptic does it Install the selected packages? How can I find out where01:42
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: it listed all the codecs =D01:42
AerebusCan anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme? i downloaded this theme from http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19506 and dont know what to do next01:42
naliothMidNightRaVeN: now you may remove the folder you expanded into your home directory01:42
DanarZiggity: if you tell it to01:42
naliothMidNightRaVeN: with the codecs in it01:43
gnub33somebody please help01:43
gnub33I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!01:43
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: and is that it?01:43
SpecialBuddydabar, how do you make it flash if you get a message01:43
naliothMidNightRaVeN: you are in business01:43
SpecialBuddyI don't know if I have one unless the sound is on01:43
MidNightRaVeNw00t w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:43
MidNightRaVeNthx =D =D01:43
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AerebusNalioth, remember my mouse problem last night?01:44
erikpAerebus: you might try http://wiki.tryphon.org/How_to_install_X11_cursors01:44
erikpAerebus: I've never tried it though01:44
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naliothAerebus: i remember seeing you talking about it01:44
dcolemwhat is the difference between ubuntu and debian01:44
ShadowRagejava isnt working01:44
naliothdcolem: US01:44
ShadowRage:(01:44
AerebusI fixed it appearently01:44
nalioths_dogShadowRage: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 01:44
ShadowRagethe java plugin fails to load for mozilla01:45
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ZiggityDanar,  I Did tell it to .. BUT cannot find the package and its not on the Menu?01:45
naliothZiggity: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?01:45
ShadowRageI just downloaded the RPM version and alien'd it01:45
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: can xine use those codecs?01:45
naliothShadowRage: bad idea01:46
naliothShadowRage: use the dogs suggestion01:46
naliothMidNightRaVeN: any a/v app on your system will use those codecs now01:46
GMachine_24using the java bin file was fairly easy....01:46
GMachine_24for install i mean01:46
Ziggitynalioth, : Yes.01:46
DanarZiggity: select the package, right click on it, choose install (or upgrade), and then click apply01:46
gnub33I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!01:47
gnub33??????????????????01:47
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DanarZiggity: make sure you clicked apply. if you can't find it after you know it's been installed, try running it from a terminal01:47
nalioths_doggnub33: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:47
ZiggityDanar,  : I've done that and it did its download thing. but NOW I cannot find the package to launch it..01:47
GMachine_24I have no idea what you're talking about gnub otherwise I would try to help.01:47
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: =( xine still isn't working then...01:47
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naliothDanar: he doesnt know the command to start it01:47
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: looks like some kind of audio problem...01:48
naliothDanar: i've directed Ziggity to the homepage of that app to read the faq/docs01:48
GMachine_24zig you d/l the bin file?01:48
ZiggityDanar, : I don't know how?? I'm new to this Linux stuff..01:48
erikpgnub33: if we knew, we could help you.  I expect most people in here are newbies.01:48
DanarZiggity: you can either try tab completion, or check the installed files in synaptic01:48
naliothMidNightRaVeN: out of my league, i'm a afraid01:48
trebuchethmm.. when i'm playing back video that works fine on my other systems the a/v sync is off on this system01:48
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: says... audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type...01:48
DanarZiggity: ok. what did you install?01:48
|QuaD-how come when i update/upgrade breezy, gaim isn't upgrading01:48
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: crap then...01:48
ZiggityDanar,  : wideStudio01:48
MidNightRaVeNhmmmmmmmm01:48
Razor-XI think i'm a gonna try something ohter than BitchX01:48
GMachine_24oh01:48
DanarZiggity: and be sure to check the links nalioth pointed you to01:48
Razor-Xand no, it's not irssi ;)01:48
naliothMidNightRaVeN: someone else may know01:48
Razor-Xor Epic01:48
Razor-Xerc!01:48
GMachine_24erect01:49
naliothRazor-X: so what is it?01:49
Razor-XGMachine_24: you're going to get lynched if I told a certain group of people about that01:49
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ZiggityDanar, : I went back and selected the build-essentials + wideStudio ( marked it for reinstallation)01:49
MidNightRaVeNanyone have a clue as to why xine is giving this error message? audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type: 01060000, etc.01:49
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maeis there any way to enable the cups web administration interface?01:49
Razor-Xtrust me, emacs users are voracious enough that, if you're not burned alive then healed several times, something worse will happen to you ;)01:49
GMachine_24i'll behave01:49
DanarZiggity: it's likely already installed...01:49
root________alright, better ?  now I'm indeed in Linux, and NOT running as root :)P01:50
root________:)01:50
ZiggityDanar, : Those links point to building from source.. I though synaptic took care of all that for you01:50
naliothZiggity: go to the widestudio homepage and READ THE FAQ & DOCS01:50
trebuchetthe video seems like its being cleaned up by the video player01:50
GMachine_24yay for root01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYliz4rd you there?01:50
DanarZiggity: try wsbuilder01:50
liz4rdnope01:50
liz4rd:P01:50
liz4rdyes whast up01:50
GMachine_24when all else fails.... read the instructions01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYneed some help can i pm you?01:50
liz4rdno read the man01:50
liz4rd:P01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYroflmao01:50
GMachine_24ha01:50
liz4rdChurcH_of_FoamY: for sure01:50
MidNightRaVeN=(01:51
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DanarZiggity: if you select the package in synaptic, and click Properties, you can check the Installed Files tab to see what to run. you look for files in /usr/bin usually.01:51
root________I need to make my wireless card work, and I've found instructions that say "madwifi" is the way...  how do I do this ?01:51
DanarZiggity: wsbuilder is the most likely one you want that i see...01:51
ZiggityDanar,  : : Now how did you know that01:51
ZiggityOH!01:51
ZiggityYou learn something every day :-_)))01:51
DanarZiggity: heh. you _should_ learn something every day ;)01:52
MidNightRaVeNanyone here know why xine says: audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type?01:52
DanarZiggity: you should also be familiar with the 'man' command01:52
GMachine_24oh 'man'01:52
ZiggityDanar,  : Is there anyway to Add it to the Menu under programming so I dont have to type it in?01:53
trebuchetdamn it01:53
GMachine_24;)01:53
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DanarZiggity: try 'man man' 'man sudo' 'man woman' ;p01:53
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, what kind of file are you trying to listen to watch ?01:53
trebuchetthe a/v synce is a few seconds off in any video i play with this system, only01:53
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, err watch :)01:53
naliothZiggity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo01:53
DanarZiggity: haven't edited menus in gnome before. someone else might be more help there. or you can search for it yourself01:53
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: it's just a regular DVD... I've tried Gladiator, Matrix... and Master and Commander...01:53
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erikpmae: did you try going to  http://localhost:631/admin in a web browser?01:54
DanarZiggity: prolly faster to ask someone else, but you'll learn more looking it up on your own01:54
ZiggityDanar,  : I'm really new to Ubuntu and Linux ,, so sorry ..01:54
Danararg @ nalioth :p01:54
maeerikp, yes, but i cannot login and change any settings01:54
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DanarZiggity: np. everyone's new at some point01:54
Ziggitynalioth,  : thanx01:54
GMachine_24<---is perenially new01:54
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, install gstreamer0.8-plugins01:54
[MW] ShadowGnome Desktop Manager is failing everytime i bootup into Ubuntu01:55
Ziggitywhats the most widly accepted programming language for the linux platform?01:55
GMachine_24french01:55
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: synaptic will have?01:55
GMachine_24j/k01:55
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, that should fix your sound problems with basically everything :)01:55
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: lol i hope so...01:55
DanarZiggity: same as for others: C++01:55
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, you might need to add the universe and multiverse repos but see if it is there (it outta be)01:55
DanarZiggity: it's an industry standard01:56
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DanarZiggity: for multiple industries even01:56
[MW] ShadowDoes anyone have an idea why gdm keeps failing everytime i try and boot into ubuntu?01:56
DanarZiggity: what got you into ubuntu/linux?01:56
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root________How do I make my wireless network card work, it's not working yet, and I know it's supported my the "madwifi" driver, however, the ath_pci driver is getting loaded instead01:56
erikpmae: You probably have done a google search already, but this might be relevant: http://faq.jdshelp.org/faq/cache/166.html  I'm not an expert on cups, so I can't really offer any more help than that.  Maybe someone else who knows more about cups can.01:56
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here use pure-ftpd?01:57
DanarZiggity: actually, it depends on what you want to make01:57
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: ewwwww01:57
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hoslerI cant add a launcher with the gdesklet StarterBar? Did anyone have the same problem? I try to add one but it never appears.01:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X huh?01:58
DanarZiggity: if you want to make programs in general, go with C++ or python or something. but there are others more oriented towards specific things01:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X is there something better thats gui based?01:58
ZiggityDanar,  :  can you please enlighten me on the Others..01:58
DanarZiggity: you can use whatever language you like though01:58
chrissturmrecommending c++ to newbies is not recommended ;)01:58
DanarZiggity: heh. enlighten yourself. head over to google.com/linux and search 'programming'. you'll find plenty01:59
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: .... still nothing =( it01:59
ZiggityDanar,   :  even for Ubuntu .. I was led to believe 'they' prefered python01:59
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MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: has many error messages now...01:59
chrissturmruby is a nice language01:59
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othernoobchrissturm: what's wrong with c++01:59
[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu01:59
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DanarZiggity: the platform you develop on shouldn't matter much. you can write code on windows that will compile on linux if you make it ansi compliant (cross-platform code)01:59
chrissturmc++ apps just crash if you do something wron02:00
trebucheti'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off02:00
chrissturmothernoob, its hard to learn how to do it right if you dont get error messages02:00
fujikohello, can i ask questions here regarding ubuntu?02:00
DanarZiggity: the langauge(s) you learn should depend on the direction you want to go. what you want to do02:00
othernoobchrissturm: don't most apps just crash if you fuck up when coding?02:00
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, I will post my /etc/apt/sources.list file for you to copy give me a sec02:00
aukfujiko: yes02:00
hoslerDoes anyone know how to add a launcher to the gdesklet StartBar?02:01
Danarothernoob: unless you make a miracly typo that _fixes_ your problem ;p02:01
golgoranyone know what possibly could be wrong if VLC dont play any sound (no problem with the volume)02:01
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: any clue why it would say that it can't find MRL?02:01
Danar*miracle. heh02:01
chrissturmothernoob, with ruby or python or java you get a nice stack trace with linenumbers02:01
fujikoauk, how come whenever i do update i get an md5sum mismatch error02:01
fujikoalso when i try to install some software i get that same error02:01
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chrissturmand having a interpreter is especially useful when learning a language02:01
daniel776Hello.02:01
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Danargoldfish: you check both VLC's volume, and your system volume?02:01
aukfujiko: haha02:01
trebucheti'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off... anybody know how to fix this? i'm on a athlon 2500 and radeon 920002:01
Danarer, golgor, sorry02:02
othernoobchrissturm: true true. but you could also recommend haskell if that's the main reason for choosing a language ;)02:02
golgorDanar, yes i have02:02
golgorDanar,  :)02:02
auki just got htat with the latest piece of software i nstalled (or tried to)02:02
daniel776anyone on want to guide me through installing java? i've tried reading guides but i keep getting erros =/02:02
Danargolgor: got gstreamer?02:02
GMachine_24treb: what video program?02:02
[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:02
trebuchettotem02:02
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Danargolgor: get audio playing it in something else?02:02
golgorDanar, yea02:02
Z0lhello02:02
Danargolgor: to which?02:03
golgorDanar, audio in rhythmbox02:03
ZiggityDanar,  : ultimatly 'application development'02:03
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, >> http://pastebin.ca/1727002:03
Z0lanyone using gnome-bluetooth under breezy/hoary? i'm missing the "Send via bluetooth" menu from nautilus and i don't know how to make it shown02:03
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DanarZiggity: well, what kind of apps? in general i can recommend C++ & python. and maybe a bit of ASM (assembly)02:03
ZiggityDanar, I want to make an app that downloads a file from the web. but want to get the GUI bits in as well02:03
golgorDanar, to which?02:04
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MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: *doing*02:04
Danargolgor: i meant 'yea to which question' i had asked two. the other was whether you have gstreamer02:04
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, some stuff doesn't need to be there but it will be ok :)02:04
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ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X what ftp program would you reccomend thats really easy for linux nubs?02:04
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: kk =) do I have to paste it over my current? or just add it in?02:05
golgorDanar, i have gstreamer... what im known of02:05
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY: for them to use as clients?02:05
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, just overwrite it02:05
Danargolgor: you using alsa? oss?02:05
GMachine_24I've never had luck getting totem to run.02:05
GMachine_24I've used videolan02:06
trebuchetheh02:06
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GMachine_24with totem i get one of like a zillion messages why the dvd won't play02:06
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[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:06
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TPCI'm having some problems with beep-media-player. If I play a file (or a stream or whatever, doesn't matter what I'm playing so its not a specific codec) sometimes the song becomes all blurred and weird. It returns to normal if I change to the next song, or pauses and resumes the song, or something similar.02:06
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TPCwhat could be wrong?02:07
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Danargolgor: alsa? oss? esd? what?02:07
GMachine_24...are you smoking pot tpc?02:07
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GMachine_24just curious....02:07
TPCGMachine_24, nope02:07
mpmcgod.. It's late02:07
golgorDanar, alsa oss?02:07
GMachine_24define "late"02:07
trebucheti'm getting no audio in vlc02:07
golgorDanar, im pretty new to linux :P02:07
blackoutwhere's a good ndis tutorial for ubuntu?  Is there an easy way to get the ndis module for ubuntu?02:07
Danargolgor: what sound system?02:07
blackouti see the userpace utils are included02:07
golgortrebuchet, welcome to the club02:07
trebuchet:)02:08
golgorDanar, nforce2?02:08
Danarwhat's the default sound system for ubuntu? alsa? esd?02:08
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jebigahello02:08
mpmchaha.. I'm listening to bueaty and the beast :P02:08
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GMachine_24treb you d/l all the css files to the same folder, etc?02:08
golgorDanar, how to check?02:08
Danargolgor: that would be your chipset. i'm looking for the software you're using02:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes02:08
[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:08
trebucheti just installed from the repos02:08
GMachine_24ahh.02:08
jebigais it true that people of ubuntu realy send ubuntu linux to everyone who wants02:08
NinwaDoes anybody know when I can expect PHP5 to be showing up in the Ubuntu repositories?02:08
Danaranyone? what's ubuntu use by default? alsa or what?02:08
GMachine_24jeb what?02:09
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MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: kk, it reloaded02:09
LinuxJonesgolgor, you can run gstreamer-properties to see what your running02:09
Danarjebiga: yes. shipit.ubuntulinux.org02:09
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, ok can you load synaptic package manager ?02:09
jebigathanks , I will check that site02:09
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, sorry too many beer :)02:09
GMachine_24treb: i've used vlc on redhat 9 with success.02:09
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nalioth_wrknjebiga: order enough cds to convert your neighborhood02:09
Danarjebiga: free shipping too :) just ordered me some02:09
[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:09
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GMachine_24... not that that does us any good here02:09
Danar(more)02:09
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, enter gstreamer0.8-plugins in the search box02:10
golgorDanar, standard output ESD, standard source OSS02:10
enkiduhi02:10
mpmcLOL02:10
GMachine_24welcome to paradise, enk02:10
mpmcsorry02:10
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, it should come up with it as a package02:10
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones:  lol np ;-) it's loaded and running?02:10
Ziggitywhat tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu02:10
mpmclol, I'm listening to something funny02:10
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: it did =/ and that's the one i installed before =(02:10
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: all the plugins are installed... =(02:11
Danargolgor: hrm. ok. 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd'02:11
Danargolgor: without quotes02:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes02:11
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, I thought you didn't have it installed ?02:11
golgor:P02:11
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enkiduhi02:11
enkidudoes anyone here use gnome mud?02:11
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enkiducan anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu?02:12
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: lol no, i got it installed... it's that Xine keeps giving me that error... it says audio_decoder: error, unkown buffer type...02:12
SpecialBuddyhow come when I drag a window around it kinda lags and you can see multiple windows02:12
SpecialBuddyis that something I need to shut off02:12
trebuchethey! audio02:12
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, argh have you installed the w32codecs package from the mplayer website ?02:12
trebuchetthanks, danar :)02:12
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GMachine_24ok... how can i change my initial settings on xchat02:13
aukanyone here getting md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages02:13
DanarLinuxJones: yeh, he did02:13
auk?02:13
trebuchetthe video is still jerky and the a/v sync is still off though02:13
mpmcLOL.. Sister Act LOL02:13
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: i installed the package that's on the mplayer site that says Codecs... dunno if it was w3202:13
Danartrebuchet: uh, for?02:13
trebuchetsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd02:13
trebuchetthat got the audio working in vlc02:13
fujikoi'm haivng md5sum error while installing pan and firefox updates02:13
Danartrebuchet: you are golgor ?02:14
mpmcPlease ignore me02:14
golgorDanar, :D02:14
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: gonna try Matrix again...02:14
trebuchetnope, same problem though02:14
Danartrebuchet: right. ok then :)02:14
golgorDanar, works great02:14
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/w32/ directory ?02:14
enkiducan anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu?02:14
golgorDanar, no im not trebuchet  :P02:14
Danarlol02:14
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/win32/ gahhhh02:14
SpecialBuddyhello02:14
Danari got that02:14
fujikoi manually downloaded the *.deb files with md5sum error and couldn't open them02:14
trebuchetyup, so my a/v sync is still off and the video is jerky02:14
fujikoother *.deb files open okay like an archive though02:15
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MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: =X i thought it said to extra those files to /usr/local/lib/codecs?02:15
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SpecialBuddyis there an option for the windows to act like mouse tais02:15
golgorDanar, you seems to know alot of stuff so i have to ask you one more thing02:15
SpecialBuddytails02:15
Danartrebuchet: crappy vid card? low ram?02:15
fujikocould this be a problem with the servers?02:15
[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:15
Danartrebuchet: wrong driver?02:15
trebuchetradeon 9200, 512MB ddr02:15
Danargolgor: i know nothing ;p02:15
golgorDanar, i have this annoying sound all the time, higher when i move my mouse.. you know whats causing it?02:15
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: what's "There is no mrl." mean?02:15
trebuchetoriginal driver on the video card, its accelerated02:15
enkidu512ddr? wow02:16
golgorDanar, you knowed more than me ;P02:16
enkidunice02:16
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enkiduhow much u get that for?02:16
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, to be sure open xine and look to advanced properties, there is a tab called codecs and it will tell you the path where the xtra codecs outta go.02:16
mpmcIs there any women here? or is it all men?? looks like it.02:16
Ziggitywhat tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu02:16
mebaran151If I post a form, will CGI deal with it the same way?02:16
trebuchetuh... i think about $60 about a year ago02:16
Danartrebuchet: yeh, old card. getting the fglrx driver should help though. it's on the ATI site02:16
Z0lbyez02:16
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mpmcI'll take that as a yes02:16
trebuchetyeah, i know, but it still ought to work02:16
enkiduthat fglrx driver is crap02:16
mpmcI'm goin to bed02:16
Danartrebuchet: er, woops. you have it?02:17
LinuxJonestrebuchet, is dma turned on your hard drive ?02:17
enkiduati still hasn't come up with better lnx drivers02:17
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jussiProblem: Add or Remove Application freezes when I run it, could someone please tell me how to fix it02:17
=== dausech Anyone can tell me why the environment variables on ubuntu doesn't change ?
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trebuchethow do i check if linux is using dma?02:17
enkidubios maybe?02:17
LinuxJonestrebuchet, do sudo hdparm /dev/hda02:17
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GMachine_24sometimes dma settings are in the bios02:18
abarbacciasudo hdparm -d /dev/hda02:18
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LinuxJonestrebuchet, it will say >> using_dma    =  1 (on) ....if it's turned on02:18
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trebuchetyup, dma on02:18
Danarenkidu: it has hardware acceleration though02:18
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enkiduis there a channel where i someone can recommend a mud client for ubuntu?02:18
Danarenkidu: er, enables it anyway02:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X you there?02:18
enkiduok02:18
Danarjussi: use synaptic instead anyway02:18
LinuxJonestrebuchet, can you post the output of the command to pastebin.ca ?02:18
dausechI've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass02:19
blackoutdoes ubuntu include any sort of ndis kernel module?02:19
LinuxJonestrebuchet, how mnay hard drives do you have ?02:19
trebuchetyeah, i polled both of my drives, both dma enabled02:19
Danardausech: dunno about your specific problem, but after you type  your pass would be when it executes the command, so it would be the command that's causing the crash02:20
jussiDanar: Thanks02:20
fujiko_quit02:20
fujiko_exit02:20
fujiko_bye02:20
LinuxJonestrebuchet, that's usually the problem with jerky video, what kind of system do you have like ram/processor ?02:20
Danarfujiko: try with / in front02:20
Danarheh02:20
trebuchet512mb ddr, athlon 250002:20
enkiduchat hmm02:21
enkiduoops02:21
enkiduhey are u using an LCD?02:21
LinuxJonestrebuchet, that's a good system02:21
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trebuchethttp://pastebin.ca/1727202:21
enkiduthis pc i'm on uses an LCD and it always seems to leave a sort of trail02:21
trebuchetyup, good enough to be sure its not a problem02:22
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trebuchetstill not good enough for battlefield 2 :-p02:22
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: wow... the computer just totally blew up...02:22
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trebuchetcool!02:22
MidNightRaVeNlol02:22
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[MW] Shadowi have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu02:23
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: i was checking in the preferences of Xine in the Audio tab.. and the whole Ubuntu system slowed to a halt in processing02:23
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: only thing that worked really was the mouse =X02:23
LinuxJonestrebuchet, hdparm -c1 /dev/hdx02:23
enkidui once had an old micron pc and a small roach went in somehow, it found its way to the cpu fan and that was pretty much the end of that02:24
LinuxJonestrebuchet, you don't have 32 bit I/O02:24
trebuchetoh02:24
trebuchetheh02:24
trebuchetso, only using half my pipe02:24
enkiduhehe02:24
LinuxJonestrebuchet, it's not your fault :)02:24
enkiduthat sounds so wrong in so many ways02:25
SpecialBuddydoes it seem like when you move windows around fast that it shows multiple ones02:25
SpecialBuddyis that a video card problem02:25
trebuchetits okay, a lot of girls have said the same already :-P02:25
enkiduhehehe02:25
LinuxJonestrebuchet, heh02:25
enkidusometimes that is a video card prob02:25
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: =/ any clue?02:25
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enkiduif its an ati card that's gonna be a tough one02:26
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: i can't find were it says it's getting the codecs from in the Xine prefences...02:26
jasoncohenwhere do breey's packages go when they're built by the automated build system before they go into pool?02:26
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enkidui have an ati at home and it doesn't play nice02:26
jasoncoheni.e- ubuntu's version of incoming.debian.org02:26
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, sounds like you have some problems :D02:26
enkiducan someone recommend a better mud client than gnome mud?02:27
trebucheti want to get a new nvidia card... i'm thinking maybe a 6600 or 680002:27
erikpcan anyone tell me what the command is for the Users and Groups tool?02:27
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: lol thx...02:27
jasoncohenerikp, sudo users-admin02:27
erikpjasoncohen: thanks!02:27
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: i just don't understand why the audio_decoder wouldn't work...02:27
jasoncohenerikp, it's in system > administration02:27
jasoncohenerikp, all the gnome tools have the same naming convention- for example the network tool is network-admin02:28
trebuchetLinuxJones: will the 32bit pipe take affect only after reboot?02:28
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GMachine_24treb... I must have missed what you said about your comp... is the I/O support @ 32-bit?02:28
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, if your sound is working ok and you have the dvd decoding software installed and the associated codecs you whould be ok. You have the decss decoding software properly installed ?02:28
enkidulist #channel02:28
enkiduhmm02:28
dausechI've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass at login02:28
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: decss??02:29
erikpjasoncohen: I don't have a panel... I just installed ubuntu, but I can't log in to a normal gnome session, only the failsafe terminal.  And I can't run any gnome apps.  Something with gnome is hosed.02:29
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trebuchetit wasn't, but it is now02:29
jasoncohenerikp, damn, is it with all users? maybe your user account is screwed up02:29
jasoncohenhave you tried creating a new user?02:29
GMachine_24ok02:29
=== dausech I never had this issue in debian...
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know where i can find sim city for linux?02:29
erikpjasoncohen: I haven't tried... one sec.02:29
trebucheti think it had an effect on the video playback but i'm not so sure02:29
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erikpjasoncohen: (this was after a fresh install though, so I doubt it will matter.. but I'll try)02:30
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GMachine_24well, i'm going to reboot and mess with my bios settings and see if i can get totem to work.02:30
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NoHopehi all02:30
Razor-Xthis'll take some getting used to, compared to BitchX02:30
NoHopeI installed Ubuntu, but I'm having problems...02:30
Razor-Xbut everything's in one, happy, convenienient environment ;)02:30
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LinuxJonestrebuchet, you can add it to a script02:30
Razor-XNoHope: shoot02:31
jasoncohenRazor-X, what irc client are you using now?02:31
NoHopeI modified the xorg.conf and hadn't made a backup.02:31
Razor-Xjasoncohen: erc02:31
Mobiuswhat program do you guys reccomend for DVD playback02:31
NoHopejasoncohen, XChat, by Windows.02:31
daniel776when i try to open music player it tells me i can't02:31
Razor-XNoHope: I think he was addressing me ;)02:31
NoHopejasoncohen, sorry, message wrong.02:31
jasoncohenah, the windows xchat client has aspell support. i wonder when the linux client will get that02:31
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NoHopeRazor-X, no problem.02:31
daniel776it says something about gst-register02:31
trebuchetadd what to a script? setting the drives to 32bit?02:31
Razor-Xjasoncohen: I'll bet you could compile that in02:31
Razor-XNoHope: what's the problem with Ubuntu?02:31
jasoncohenRazor-X, how?02:32
NoHopeRazor-X, I modified the xorg.conf and I don't know how to return to the default.02:32
Razor-Xjasoncohen: compilation, that's how02:32
erikpjasoncohen: nope, I just added a new user and tried to log in, but I just get a dark ground screen with a cursor.  The panel, nautilus, etc fail to start.  No error messages; nothing.02:32
NoHopeRazor-X, and I see there is no adsl-setup...02:32
jasoncohenerikp, do you have permission problems?02:32
NoHopeRazor-X, how to connect to the internet?02:32
Razor-XNoHope: is there an xorg.bak, or xorg.conf~ or something?02:32
jasoncohenerikp, are you out of space on your HD? df -h02:32
trinidadUbuntu is great IMHO!  I have completely switched over, however, I am still looking for add-ons to xchat which do similar things that xdccklipper does for mIRC in Windows.  Can anyone recommend anything?02:32
Razor-Xtry calling adsl-setup from a terminal02:33
Razor-XmIRC.... *shudders*02:33
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Ninwatrinidad, Check xchat.org 's plugin list.02:33
NoHopeRazor-X, uhm... I didn't realize that... I will see when I return to Linux... well... and about internet? How to connect?02:33
erikpjasoncohen: no, it's a new 80gig drive with just Ubuntu on it.02:33
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erikpjasoncohen: what kind of permission problems?02:33
SDFH_Linuxtrindad what os did you use before?02:33
Razor-XI couldn't stand mIRC the first time I saw it, HydraIRC is my favorite GUI client on all platforms, if I was stuck on GUI, i'ld use WINE to run HydraIRC02:33
trinidadwindows, then SuSE02:33
jasoncohenerikp, like, something you need to read or write to is owned by root02:33
jasoncohenthat should have been fixed by creating a new user though02:34
jasoncohenyou said this is from a fresh install?02:34
daniel776when i open music player or CD player i get an error saying that their is no registery and i should run gst-register02:34
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, you need libdvdcss2 it's an decryption library that enables you to watch copy-protected dvd's02:34
Razor-XNoHope: like I said, you can call adsl-setup from the terminal02:34
SDFH_Linuxyou like ubuntu better than suse02:34
erikpjasoncohen: yeah, I just installed in on an empty hdd02:34
NoHopeRazor-X, but there is no adsl-setup...02:34
trinidadSDFH_Linux: yes I do02:34
Razor-XNoHope: you mean, in the menus?02:34
jasoncohenerikp, make sure you have space on your HD. if / is full, you can get weird problems like this02:34
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jasoncohenerikp, what does df -h show for /02:34
Razor-Xthe menus don't dictate everything on the machine, by far ;)02:34
trinidadSDFH_Linux, too many issues with SuSE and my sound card02:34
SDFH_Linuxjust curious what made you get off windows?02:34
NoHopeRazor-X, menus? I didn't see that...02:34
Razor-Xhey tiglionabbit ;)02:34
NoHopeWell, I will try and them I return here... thx102:34
Razor-XNoHope: wait, there's no X?02:34
Razor-Xas in, no GUI?02:35
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: I've switched from BitchX02:35
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tiglionabbitRazor-X: really?02:35
NoHopeRazor-X, there was, but I modified xorg.conf and couldn't enter no more.02:35
trinidadSDFH_Linux, Because I got bored and then scared from all the pirate software I had.02:35
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: not to irssi, mind you02:35
NoHopesee ya! thx!02:35
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: [:-(02:35
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SDFH_Linuxwhat were you scared of?02:35
trebucheti've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci02:35
erikpjasoncohen: dd -h says I have 67 gigs free on /02:35
tiglionabbitRazor-X: aw, why not?  What did you switch to?02:35
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: *sigh* Xine blew ubuntu up again...02:35
Razor-Xtrinidad: I used to be scared of illegal software too... when I was 8 ;)02:35
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: erc02:36
jasoncohenerikp, heh, i gues it's not that02:36
erikp(df, rather)02:36
MidNightRaVeNLinuxJones: is there anyway to "Uninstall" it per se?02:36
LinuxJonesMidNightRaVeN, goto www.ubuntuguide.org and have a peek.02:36
jasoncohenerikp, what errors do you get?02:36
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: sudo apt-get remove xine02:36
tiglionabbitMidNightRaVeN: apt-get remove02:36
Razor-Xand good riddance to it ;)02:36
Razor-X!vlc02:36
erikpjasoncohen: none... it's really wierd.02:36
ubotufrom memory, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.02:36
MidNightRaVeNthx =)02:36
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jasoncohenerikp, you could try starting gnome directly from a console (after killing gdm) with gnome-session02:36
erikpjasoncohen: I just get a blank brown screen.  And when I try to start GNOME apps nothing happens.02:36
Razor-Xthat's what I reccomend, meself, and I rarely reccomend GUI apps02:36
trinidadSDFH_Linux, "scared" may be to harsh.  Rather, I felt guilty.  When I learned that every and anything ever produced for Windows could be found and cracked, I got addicted to doing it.02:36
tiglionabbit!info vlc02:37
trinidadSDFH_Linux, too easy02:37
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB02:37
erikpjasoncohen:  do I just do killall gdm?02:37
Razor-Xtrinidad: I don't quite understand your logic02:37
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: hmmm, never saw that02:37
jasoncohenerikp, ctrl -alt - f1 , sudo killall gdm02:37
tiglionabbitwell I gotta go, brb02:37
jasoncohenerikp, then gnome-session02:37
trinidadI feel guilty because I don't pay02:37
Razor-Xwow, BitchX has given me a muscle memory for tab-complete, backspace, type colon02:37
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Razor-Xand it's hard to break out of that in erc, which auto does that for you02:37
LufusolInteresting... grub keeps .. forgetting what it's supposed to load02:37
trinidadI don't contribute to the coder who earns his money through coding02:37
Razor-Xtrinidad: you've fallen to the light side02:37
trinidadso I moved to free software02:37
trinidad:)02:37
Lufusolis anyone else having problems with grub after a clean install?02:38
trinidadI have a family Razor-X, I understand the need to earn money.02:38
trebucheti've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci02:38
Razor-Xand? ;)02:38
trinidad;)02:38
trinidadI think you know what I mean02:38
SDFH_Linuxwell you will notice trinidad that its much more stable02:38
Razor-Xeven if I don't have the former, and I don't need the latter, it's not going to stop me for working for my math Ph.D.... or the software02:38
Razor-X;)02:38
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erikpjasoncohen: I do have a ton of gdmplay and aplay processes... like 10 of each, and ps -Al says the gdmplay processes are on WAIT... not sure if that means anything.02:39
Razor-Xbrb02:39
trinidadI must say that pirating software has gotten me to where I am today as far as familiarity with software I use at work02:39
MidNightRaVeNafter you "uninstall" it... should it say "Package xine is not installed, so not removed"? Or should it say it's removing the package?02:39
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trinidadIn that respect, I appreciate the underground "scene"02:39
Razor-Xback02:40
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Razor-Xya know that?02:40
SDFH_Linuxwhat i like a lot in linux is that there isnt so much advertising and such02:40
trinidadWithout them providing the software, I could have ended up dead.  I'm from L.A., ex gang-banger, turned engineer02:40
trinidad:)02:40
Razor-XI think i'm going to maximize me Eterm to the whole desktop02:40
SDFH_Linuxon the programs02:40
SDFH_Linuxgaim has none02:40
Razor-XSDFH_Linux: that's because of the open mentaility02:40
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Razor-Xahhh, that feels nice02:40
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Razor-Xa nice, open, wide terminal02:40
erikpjasoncohen: when I start gnome-session I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:40
Razor-Xalbeit, my background picture a tad bit stretched02:40
naliothRazor-X: why not maximize it to cover your head?02:40
Razor-Xi'll just get a different one, a larger one02:40
Razor-Xnalioth: nope02:41
Razor-Xwith emacs, like, everything I do is now in terminal02:41
Razor-Xand my screen is shared with two channel02:41
Razor-X*channels02:41
trinidadNice talking with you all...02:41
trinidadI'll be back from time to time for support if I need it02:41
MidNightRaVeNwhy won't it uninstall xine =( ?02:41
trinidadThank you all02:41
trinidadLater02:41
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: what's the error?02:41
MidNightRaVeNnothing... it just says it isn't installed so it can't uninstall it... and i can still run xine through Run Application02:42
Razor-Xhmmm....02:42
Razor-Xthen delete xine ;)02:42
Razor-Xlocate xine02:42
MidNightRaVeNlol but where would it be?02:42
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Razor-XXDDD02:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYgoes to build a windows 98 machene just for his old games >.<02:43
Razor-Xno no no, type that in a terminal02:43
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QuentusrexThe default session manager won't let me select KDE02:43
Quentusrexhow to I change this?02:43
Razor-Xand it'll find the directory that xine is located in02:43
Quentusrexwhen I log in and try to choose something other than Gnome, there are no other choices.02:43
chrissturmQuentusrex, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X what kinda ftp would you recommend for nubs?02:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYand yes it's for a lan02:43
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QuentusrexWhat if I wanted to use something other than KDE? or Gnome? like xfce?02:44
Razor-Xftp client?02:44
edgardoHola!02:44
chrissturmQuentusrex, sudo apt-get install xfce402:44
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: =/ I found it... how do i get rid of it?02:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell i want a server on here02:44
Quentusrexok02:44
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: rm /path/to/xine02:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething easy to use and simple to set up02:45
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toresbehey guys02:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYhi ^_^02:45
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toresbeI'm at debconf5 right now :)02:45
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: lemme see mine, hold on02:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYk02:45
toresbeMark Shuttleworth is here :)02:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis in here?02:45
nalioths_dogAerebus: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:45
toresbeno, as in, Debconf, the debian conference02:46
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: lol but when i located it, it came up with other stuff that isn't xine as well... so will it delete all of that?02:46
trebucheti just built this driver for my a/v card... no build error, then when i do make install i get some problems: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister02:46
LinuxJonestoresbe, where ?02:46
toresbeLinuxJones: Finland02:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh02:46
toresbeI'm going to be filming a talk he's giving02:46
LinuxJonestoresbe, no fool who is he :D02:46
Quentusrexwhat is the best way to install a DNS server on ubuntu?02:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn i wanted to meet him and thank him for sponsering such an awsome os ^_^02:46
p8ntballer100822hey im trying to install mysql onto my apache server but when i try to do sudo apt-get install php4-mysql it says pakage not found is there somewhere else i could get the pakage02:46
tmahoneyt11Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop?02:46
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toresbeLinuxJones: ...the owner of Canonical software..02:46
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: vsftpd02:46
toresbeLinuxJones: he started, and owns, Ubuntu02:47
Razor-XLinux used to live in my neighborhood ;)02:47
edgardoHay lguien que hable epal?02:47
LinuxJonestoresbe, lol what is his irc name :)02:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYtoresbe let him no i said thanx for the great os02:47
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: if you want to talk to mr shuttlesworth read the community part of the wiki02:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYcool02:47
naliothedgardo: en el #ubuntu-es por favor02:47
socommCan one really own FOSS?02:47
MidNightRaVeN=( =( =(02:47
Quentusrexindirectly, sure02:47
socommedgardo: /join #ubuntu-es02:47
toresbeLinuxJones: He is not on IRC, presumably02:47
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p8ntballer100822hey i cant install mysql into apache!! it says the pakage isnt there02:48
tmahoneyt11Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop?02:48
p8ntballer100822could anybody help02:48
trunghi02:48
LinuxJonestoresbe, damn I thought you meant he was in irc not debconf :D02:48
naliothtmahoneyt11: help with what?02:48
trunghow turn off autoupdate?02:48
edgardoGracias a todos Hasta pronto!02:48
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tmahoneyt11naloith: I can't seemto make a proper Install Disk02:48
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toresbeAnyway, I'm preparing the laptop that the speakers will be using.02:48
socommLinuxJones: By 'here' I think he meant that the man was in his home town.02:48
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naliothtmahoneyt11: have you checked the md5 sums?02:49
MidNightRaVeN*blegh* i can't get xine to uninstall and I'm afraid that if I do rm /path/to/xine, that it's going to destroy the other stuff that has the word xine in it....02:49
toresbeAnd to get an output on the video projector I need to get TV out on the intel chip02:49
socommIn toresbe hometown.02:49
blackoutis there an eta on when some of the MD5 sum issues will be fixed?  I've had issues downloading libgcrypt-dev and ldap-utils02:49
socommGeez now I'm confused.02:49
p8ntballer100822can anybody help... is it just me but when i try to install mysql into apache is says pakage not found.02:49
LufusolWell I finally found some decent documentation for GRUB and now that i "get it" i don't like it at all.  Time to go back to lilo :P02:49
blackoutor this is a pretty standard ubuntu problem?02:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYRazor-X and how do i run it?02:49
The_VoxLufusol: lol!02:49
LinuxJonessocomm, I missed the line before >> toresbe Mark Shuttleworth is here :)02:49
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: it won't02:49
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Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: /path/to/vsftp start ;002:49
NoHopehi all02:49
Razor-X*;)02:49
trung128MB is not enough for ubuntu?02:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk02:50
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MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: kk =D as long as it doesn't lol I'm happy02:50
Razor-Xtrung: ..................02:50
socommtrung: It should be enough.02:50
Razor-Xtrung: your average OS uses 10 GB02:50
NoHopeRazor-X, I fixed X, but It still without internet.02:50
Razor-Xsocomm: uh..... wha?02:50
Razor-XNoHope: tried to run adsl from the terminal?02:50
naliothblackout: the repos are wonky today02:50
p8ntballer100822i need help with installing mysql into apache could anybody help... it says package not found.02:50
NoHopeRazor-X, but there is no adsl.02:50
socomm128 MB should be enough memory to run Ubuntu.02:50
p8ntballer100822its says could not find package02:51
NoHopeRazor-X, strange...02:51
blackoutnalioth, glad to hear it's not a standard thing - this is my first day with ubuntu?02:51
naliothblackout: edit the us. off of the front of your us.archive.ubuntu lines in your sources.list and youll be fine02:51
NoHopeRazor-X, no adsl-setup02:51
Razor-XNoHope: there's a commandline method too... i'm forgetting02:51
trungRazor-X, my computer is abit slowly (as FF needs 30mins not starting)02:51
Razor-Xsocomm: ahhh, I was assuming HDD space02:51
nalioths_dogblackout, or use this one02:51
nalioths_dogblackout: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:51
p8ntballer100822can anybody help dammit?02:51
p8ntballer100822it says package not found02:51
NoHopePeople, I have no adsl-setup on my Ubuntu. How to connect to the internet?02:51
socommWell most modern distros require 3GB or more for a full installation.02:51
naliothp8ntballer100822: patience02:51
naliothp8ntballer100822: you left b4 i could answer you b402:52
naliothp8ntballer100822: what is it now?02:52
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Razor-XNoHope: you use PPPoE?02:52
NoHopeRazor-X, yap.02:52
p8ntballer100822when im trying to install mysql into apache is says package not found02:52
p8ntballer100822im wondering if i can get it somewhere sle02:52
p8ntballer100822else*02:52
naliothcan someone show p8ntballer100822 the backports URLs with LAMP in them?02:52
Razor-XNoHope: you should use a router (much easier for any OS, trust me), but google for some help with that02:53
naliothp8ntballer100822: only use these URLs for mysql, then comment them out until you need something else02:53
QuentusrexHelp... a MD5Sum was mismatched02:53
NoHopeRazor-X, But I'm not connected to a LAN...02:53
naliothQuentusrex: the repos are down02:53
p8ntballer100822?? im using the ubuntu guide02:53
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Razor-XNoHope: does it matter? ;)02:53
socommQuentusrex: Redownload the ISO.02:53
nalioth!ubguide02:53
ubotuI heard ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)02:53
blackoutnalioth, wonderous - thanks.  that worked just fine02:53
QuentusrexI want to install xfce402:53
naliothp8ntballer100822: your first mistake02:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit i can't find the path to it02:54
NoHopeRazor-X, I thought router only existed on a LAN...02:54
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: it says that /path/to/xine doesn't exist02:54
ZodiacWhat is the best player for DVD playback?02:54
ZodiacTotem Xine?02:54
naliothpeople, i need the URLs to the backports that have LAMPs02:54
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: but Xine still works fine...02:54
DiscipulusZodiac, GXine02:54
trebuchetwhat do i need to fix this build error?: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister02:54
QuentusrexIf the repo's are down. How do I install xfce4?02:54
ZodiacHow do I get it?02:54
naliothy'all know mysql, and those other 3 things that make up LAMPs02:54
ZodiacIs it in the guide?02:54
p8ntballer100822what... am i not supposed to use the user guide..?02:55
DiscipulusZodiac, sudo apt-get install gxine02:55
Razor-XQuentusrex: they aren't down02:55
DiscipulusZodiac, the guide is terrible, don't use it02:55
nalioths_dogQuentusrex: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:55
Razor-Xremove the "us." from all your repos02:55
naliothQuentusrex: use those repos02:55
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Zodiacdamn02:55
naliothKentoo: can you turn that off please?02:55
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p8ntballer100822anywhere else to dl mysql for apache02:55
Razor-Xhaha, erc doesen't auto-away02:55
The_Voxhttp://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/  <--- very cool stuff :)02:56
Razor-Xwhich means, I won't be away forever anymore! muahahahahaha!02:56
golgoranyone familiar with apache?02:56
The_VoxRazor-X: you using erc?02:56
Razor-XThe_Vox: yeah02:56
naliothp8ntballer100822: i'm tryin to find out for you02:56
Razor-Xthe scrolling input line takes a little getting used to, though02:56
p8ntballer100822ok02:56
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: any clue why I can't get rid of that file?? rm /path/to/xine didn't do anything...02:56
p8ntballer100822thanks02:56
naliothp8ntballer100822: be patient02:56
The_VoxRazor-X: that's the one thing I don't do in emacs....erc drives me crazy02:56
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: did you literally type in /path/to/xine ?02:56
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Razor-XThe_Vox: hah02:56
Zodiacok I did the apt-get gxine02:57
ZodiacNow what?02:57
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Razor-XZodiac: why do you want xine?02:57
The_VoxRazor-X: and the other emacs irc clients all suck planets through capillary straws...so I use xchat :)02:57
MidNightRaVeNyea... i'll try again =/02:57
Razor-X!vlc02:57
uboturumour has it, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.02:57
Razor-X!info vlc02:57
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB02:57
NoHopeRazor-X, well... a router is a computer which share internet with other computers, isn't it?02:57
ZodiacDUNNO....02:57
Razor-XThe_Vox: I used BitchX previously02:57
Razor-XNoHope: not just02:57
The_VoxRazor-X: BX is sooo 80's lol! I stoped using BX long ago :)02:57
trebucheti've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci02:57
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: ............02:57
ZodiacAlso..02:57
Razor-XThe_Vox: I do almost everything in command-line02:57
BeefTubeis ther4e a 64bit kernel for SMP systems? I have 2 processors and 2 gigs ram.... TIA :)02:58
Razor-Xmy emacs is terminal-only, no xemacs crap02:58
The_VoxRazor-X: moved to epic, then tried erc for a while, then to xchat02:58
ZodiacWhat packages do I need for mp3 playback>02:58
Zodiac?02:58
nalioths_dogp8ntballer100822: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:58
aukhas anyone here gotten md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages?02:58
NoHopeRazor-X, I can't find information at google...02:58
golgordepends on what player you use Zodiac02:58
The_VoxRazor-X: I use emacs on X....nothing beats X for keeping 50 terminals open :)02:58
Razor-XBeefTube: yes there is, apt-cache search linux and look through the kernels02:58
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MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: ravencorp@reavencorp:/$ sudo rm /path/to/xine/02:58
MidNightRaVeNrm: cannot remove `/path/to/xine/': No such file or directory02:58
BeefTubeok cool 8)02:58
BeefTubethanks02:58
Razor-XThe_Vox: X is overrated ;)02:58
ZodiacWhat is the best player?02:58
Razor-XI use X.... but not X specifically02:58
Razor-XZodiac: VLC02:59
BeefTubewinamp under WINE LOL02:59
Razor-XBeefTube: no way02:59
BeefTubejokeing02:59
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The_VoxRazor-X: I said that for many years...but I like to have a pretty bound woman as my wallpaper, which is a PITA to do on console :)02:59
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Razor-Xi'm assuming you don't mean bound as in 'in bondage'02:59
Razor-Xbecause if you do.... *cough*02:59
vguihi02:59
Razor-Xand I have a nice terminal background meself02:59
trungMidNightRaVeN, so it deleted before02:59
golgoranyone familiar with apache?02:59
matt_i'm having problems enabling DRI in X02:59
ZodiacOkay how do I go about getting it?02:59
golgori need help02:59
Razor-Xwhich did hamper my productiity for a while02:59
matt_anybody know anything about that02:59
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The_VoxRazor-X: uhm...do a /whois on me, it should answer your q :)03:00
SDFH_Linuxwhat is the best program to log into another linux machine?03:00
socommssh03:00
socommvnc, maybe?03:00
trungMidNightRaVeN,  ah change 'path/to' to a real path :)03:00
aukssh03:00
Zodiachow do I install VLC03:00
Razor-Xsudo apt-get install vlc03:00
The_VoxZodiac: sudo aptitude install vlc03:00
socomm`apt-get install vlc'03:00
aukmd5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone??03:00
golgorZodiac, use your packagemanager03:00
Razor-XThe_Vox: I tend not to tell others about aptitude03:00
golgoror as socomm says03:00
naliothSDFH_Linux: sswh03:00
naliothshicracp03:00
naliothSDFH_Linux: ssh03:00
Razor-Xonly because people get confused on occasion03:00
MidNightRaVeNtrung: lol o03:01
golgorapache anyone?03:01
SDFH_Linuxdo you have to setup something on the other linux box for it to let you in?03:01
socommGranted that you got all repos enabled on your /etc/apt/sources.lst03:01
ZodiacWell...03:01
socommSDFH_Linux: You'll need a ssh client.03:01
Razor-XSDFH_Linux: do you have SSH setup?03:01
aukgolgor: i've installe dapache03:01
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The_VoxRazor-X: I'm instilling on myself the habit of using aptitude, so I try to forget apt exists lol!03:01
Zodiacwith VLC, what package will allow mp3 playback?03:01
Razor-Xit's not gonna be like OMG, there's a computer next to me... I love you!03:01
SDFH_Linuxi dont think i do03:01
trungMidNightRaVeN, why o?03:02
Razor-XThe_Vox: I've already done that03:02
SDFH_Linuxhave ssh setup03:02
MidNightRaVeNtrung: cuz lol i thought i was just suppose to literally put /path/to/xine in there03:02
socomm!restricted03:02
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:02
socommZodiac: Follow the link above.03:02
Razor-Xsocomm: why are you insisting he use xine?03:02
The_VoxRazor-X: I've been using ubuntu for 5 days...spent 5 years doing "urpmi this" :)03:02
golgorauk, query03:02
naliothSDFH_Linux: every ubuntu install has ssh03:02
Razor-XVLC is far superior03:02
SDFH_Linuxk03:02
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aukgolgor: huh?03:03
Razor-XSDFH_Linux: do you have sshd setup on the other machine?03:03
SDFH_Linuxdont think so03:03
SDFH_Linuxlet me check03:03
socommI'm more of a mplayer man.03:03
Razor-Xcplay meself03:03
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Razor-Xalthough, I may switch to emms03:03
Razor-Xcplay+vlc, may switch to emms, rather03:03
BeefTubeis it legal for me to advertize Free ubuntu Linux ..... and have client just pay me for the time to install it? I will let them know it is free and that they can do it by themselves if they want to... TIA03:03
Razor-Xif I do, I won't need screen any longer03:03
Razor-Xit'll feel weird03:03
trungMidNightRaVeN, ok :)03:04
The_Voxhehehe03:04
Razor-XBeefTube: yes, it is03:04
DanarZodiac: xmms is good for mp3s. it has mp3 capability built in03:04
naliothBeefTube: you may be paid for your professional support services regarding linux03:04
delltonyanyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great03:04
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socommBeefTube: Yes, as long as you don't charge for the software.03:04
BeefTubeCool... I will be sure to show them how to donate too if they like it 8)03:04
Razor-Xi've used screen for so long... it's become reflex03:04
Danarvlc & xine are more for videos03:04
aukmd5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone??03:04
socommYou could always charge for support and the media, also labor.03:04
socommEtc, etc ...03:04
The_VoxBeefTube: that's what I live of...installing/configuring/admin'ing linux for SMEs03:04
vguiwoooooiiii03:04
BeefTubecool!03:04
BeefTubeCool :)03:05
naliothsocomm: what is the media charge? .05$? lol03:05
naliothauk: repos are wonky03:05
DanarZodiac: xmms is like winamp03:05
naliothauk: use the dogs03:05
BeefTubeI am going to save the world, 1 linux install at a time 8)03:05
nalioths_dogauk: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:05
Razor-Xsocomm: it's like Vanderbilt03:05
MidNightRaVeNtrung: any clue what the path for xine might look like? cuz I'm not sure...03:05
Razor-Xfree boat ride... but you have to pay for lunch03:05
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DanarBeefTube: heh. good luck. :)03:05
naliothMidNightRaVeN: open a terminal03:05
naliothMidNightRaVeN: type "which xine"03:05
BeefTubethanks03:05
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: opened03:06
Razor-Xfree Linux... i'm changing youfor air breathed, time taken, anxiety caused, eye-fluid usage, etc.03:06
DanarBeefTube: might want to go with mass deployment though ;p03:06
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auknalioths_dog: that sources.list is mine03:06
fossahi03:06
naliothRazor-X: thats windows charges03:06
BeefTubeheh... I will clone myself 8)03:06
aukand fujiko's03:06
fossai'm having a problem with a sed command. can someone help?03:06
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: ahhhh03:06
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naliothauk: you are not using us.archive.blah?03:06
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: how does it know that....03:06
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naliothMidNightRaVeN: it's smart03:06
golgorcan i in some way check if there is anything using certain ports from my comp?03:06
fossasetenv CNS_ARCH `echo ${CNS_ARCH} | sed -e 's/_g77//g'`03:06
fossaand it returns with an error, sed: -e expression #1, char 11: Invalid range end03:07
toresbeAnyone here know how to set up the i810 driver for tv out?03:07
bigfoot1how do i know how much memory a program takes when I run it?03:07
jtgameoverwhy doesn't xmms seem to remember its skin and settings every time i log in?03:07
naliothbigfoot1: use top03:07
SDFH_Linuxso how i setup sshd03:07
auknaliopth; yes, i am!03:07
naliothbigfoot1: from a terminal03:07
rob^whats the easiest way to change file associations?03:07
BeefTubeadvertizement will say something like " free Ubuntu linux with every geek rental.... "03:07
DanarBeefTube: step 1 - pwn lots of boxes & turn them into zombies. step 2 - install linux on them. step 3 - use them to pwn every other win-box and put linux on it. step 4 - ? step 5 - profit?03:07
Razor-XJimbob: cuz it sucks ;)03:07
naliothauk: then take a closer look at the link the dog sent you03:07
socommjtgameover: Perhaps you got the wrong persmissions set on your .xmms03:07
Razor-XBeep-Media-Player is better for Winamp-ness03:07
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socomm~/.xmms03:07
Thorrn4hello all!!03:08
MidNightRaVeNhowdie03:08
BeefTubehi03:08
bigfoot1nalioth, will top compare the difference between XMMS and Rythymbox? I'd like to know which takes up less memory.03:08
aukoh03:08
socommThis usually happens when you run .xmms as a different user for the first time, I'm guessing your ran it as sudo and thus the super user owns .xmms not you.03:08
DiscipulusI LOVE UBUNTU!03:08
jtgameoverhmmmm03:08
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Razor-XDiscipulus: hahaha, so do we all03:08
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: is /usr/bin/xine the right file to remove to get rid of xine totally?03:08
jtgameoveriwill check it out, thank you03:08
Razor-XI love my emacs too03:08
Danarxmms ownz beep-whatever :p03:09
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naliothMidNightRaVeN: why do you want to get rid of it?03:09
Razor-XDanar: the latter is based off the former03:09
jtgameoveruh oh03:09
naliothDanar: bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms03:09
Razor-Xnalioth: because he feels it useless03:09
jtgameoverit says "sudo: unable to lookup tanpc via gethostbyname()"03:09
Danaractually, i haven't used it :p03:09
jtgameoverearlier i did "sudo hostname tanpc"03:09
Razor-Xnalioth: it's more than that03:09
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: *sigh*.... it keeps stalling the system and won't play the DVDS... i was thinking of trying to uninstall it and try a different media player03:09
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Danarbut i like xmms...03:09
jtgameoverbecause my hostname was something obscure03:09
Razor-XDanar: many people use non-standard things in Linux03:10
Razor-Xespecialy power users03:10
naliothMidNightRaVeN: so install totem-gstreamer, and leave the poor xine binary alone03:10
bigfoot1nalioth, if bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms, what is xmms itself?03:10
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: you know... in Linux you don't have to uninstall it03:10
naliothbigfoot1: gtk1 era, i expect03:10
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: why though?03:10
fossacpu graph?03:10
Danarxmms is like free winamp.. for linux03:10
fossano wait, that's processing not ram03:11
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: because, you don't ;)03:11
bigfoot1and ubuntu hoary is gtk2?03:11
Razor-Xnalioth: it's much more than just gtk2 xmms03:11
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: lol03:11
naliothbigfoot1: the current gnome uses gtk2, yes03:11
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naliothRazor-X: i heard you the first time03:11
bigfoot1Danar, if xmms is like free winamp, then what is beep media player like?03:11
naliothRazor-X: i use laymans terms quite a bit in here03:11
Razor-Xnalioth: heh03:11
Razor-Xok ok03:11
naliothRazor-X: simplified explanations03:11
naliothRazor-X: we are not all as smart as you03:12
Razor-XI generally try and do the bloddy exposition03:12
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jasoncohendamn, in order to restore hoary's version of libgcc1 after using backports, a user would have to uninstall most of gnome as well as evolution, openoffice.org2, mozilla, mozilla-firefox, abiword etc. (379 MB in all).03:12
Razor-Xyou understand what you will03:12
Razor-X*bloody03:12
jasoncohenso much for not backporting libraries - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=246867#post24686703:12
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Razor-Xhmmm, it's getting hard to manage two conversation panes03:12
jasoncohenbackports mozilla-firefox & mozilla-browser depend on libgcc1 4.0.0-7 which isn't in hoary. that's the cause of the issue03:12
naliothRazor-X: so open a couple more03:13
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Razor-XI generally manage quite a few, but not split in one screen03:13
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naliothp8ntballer100822: are you here?03:13
naliothp8ntballer100822: read what jasoncohen said above re backports03:13
bigfoot1if you had the choice between an .mp3 stream and a .ogg stream, which would you take?03:13
naliothRazor-X: sounds like you need a 42" plasma with dvi input, then03:13
Razor-Xnalioth: yes, I do03:14
naliothbigfoot1: oggs are f/oss03:14
MidNightRaVeNkk.... so totem-gstream is already installed... do i use just regular totem then to play dvds03:14
Razor-Xit plays .dvi files natively? ;)03:14
MidNightRaVeN?03:14
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auknalioth: those reps worked to install "pan", while my previous ones did not--what are the "official" reps?03:14
BeefTubedoes Ubuntu have cedega in the apt repository?03:14
naliothMidNightRaVeN: you only have 'regular totem'03:14
DiscipulusBeefTube, apt-cache search cedega03:14
BeefTubeok I will try, thanks03:14
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bigfoot1for firefox users here, do you find that after some hours, fx runs slowly, and you'd have to restart it to get it back running smoothly?03:14
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: it says in Synaptic that it is already installed though...03:15
Razor-Xyeah03:15
naliothauk: when you use archive.ubuntu.com, it hands you off to the next random official server such as gb.archvie.blah03:15
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Razor-Xit's called "OMG I LOVE YOUR RAM" syndrome03:15
socommBeefTube: Nope.03:15
Razor-Xone of the reasons I switched from Firefox ;)03:15
BeefTubeok03:15
malakhiBeefTube, no. Cedega is proprietary software, based on WineX.03:15
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: is there a certain way to run it?03:15
socommCedega charges a subscription charge to download it's sofware.03:15
BeefTubeoh!03:15
naliothbigfoot1: firefox has major memory holes, use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase instead03:15
BeefTubeI thought we could compile it for personel use03:15
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aukbut why would the default reps form install not be correct?03:15
BeefTubei will just buy it03:15
naliothMidNightRaVeN: when you call totem, it will run totem-gstreamer03:15
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bigfoot1for streaming ogg audio, which program do you guys use/recommend? I have rythymbox, gmplayer (which i feel sucks!), and xmms, etc.03:16
jtan325what is the correct way to change my hostname?03:16
auknalioth: *03:16
ZodiacGod I love Ubuntu03:16
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bigfoot1nalioth, what do you mean memory holes?03:16
naliothauk: they are correct, but the US repos are whangered today03:16
Razor-XZodiac: hah03:16
trebuchetdamn it03:16
Razor-Xbigfoot1: VLC03:16
aukah ha!03:16
Razor-XVLC streaming is incredibly03:16
Zodiacuh oh03:16
bigfoot1nalioth, and will these holes be fixed in the next version of ubuntu?03:16
Razor-Xactually, that was the original reason for VLCs inception, streaming03:16
naliothbigfoot1: it 'leaks' memory03:16
ZodiacI think I messed my DVD playback up03:16
Razor-XVideoLan Client03:16
socommBeefTube: One could compile winex, however cedega is not too hot on people redistributing it's software.03:16
naliothbigfoot1: they're not that kind of hole03:16
bigfoot1nalioth, leak?03:16
socommHence the reason why you'll never fine winex on any repos.03:16
MidNightRaVeNyikes!03:16
Razor-Xbigfoot1: holes in code where memory stays allocated even if not used03:16
bigfoot1how can so many people quite at the same time+03:17
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bigfoot1?03:17
Quest-MasterNetsplit03:17
MidNightRaVeNwhat is that?03:17
socommHah, netsplit.03:17
Razor-Xyeah, it's a netsplit03:17
BeefTubeyea ok :)03:17
bigfoot1what's a netspliT?03:17
MidNightRaVeNyea =/03:17
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aukbigfoot1: wikipedia03:17
mrzeroMidNightRaVeN: two different irc-servers looses link with each other03:17
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Razor-Xit's when the router connecting two servers or a server chain and a server dies03:17
naliothbigfoot1: i'm not so technical to expain it, just use an alternative gecko based browser such as the ones i listed above03:17
Discipuluswhere can I get the source to winex?03:17
[koji] *boom*03:17
Razor-Xtherefore, the network and the server are isolated from each other03:17
MidNightRaVeNmrzero: oooo03:18
bigfoot1Razor-X, will Fx memory holes be fixed in ubuntu 5.10?03:18
Razor-Xbut, it's also used as a general term showing that a box is going down03:18
naliothbigfoot1: its a firefox problem, not an ubuntu one03:18
Razor-Xbigfoot1: it's not an Ubuntu problem, it's a Firefox one03:18
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jtan325anyone know of the correct way to change a hostname? not simply typing "hostname ..."03:18
ZodiacGuys, what do I want for DVD playback??03:18
aukwht's a FF problem?03:18
bigfoot1maybe if we tell firefox/mozilla about this problem, they will fix it.03:18
naliothauk: firefox03:18
aukwhat is the problem?03:18
langolierdoes anybody have some helpful hints on getting my sudo modprobe zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on lubuntu?03:18
naliothbigfoot1: and maybe you'll buy everyone in the channel a beer03:18
Razor-Xbigfoot1: it's known03:19
Ninwajtan325, changing the hostname file?03:19
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Ninwa/etc/hostname03:19
naliothauk: firefox has many03:19
Razor-XI'm tired of all the bleating Firefox fanboys anywho03:19
ColonelKernel whats the current kernel used by ubuntu?03:19
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: when i use Totem with the gstream it just freezes...03:19
aukwhat is the problem?03:19
Razor-Xand fangirls03:19
fujikonetsplit o.O03:19
Quest-MasterHehe, back again03:19
bigfoot1nalioth, firefox has many what?03:19
naliothMidNightRaVeN: is your file format valid?03:19
naliothMidNightRaVeN: what you are trying to watch?03:19
naliothbigfoot1: PROBLEMS03:19
jtan325Ninwa, is that all i have to do?03:19
socommHipsters with their starbucks and firefox browsers.03:19
bigfoot1nalioth, ok.03:19
auki love firefox03:19
jtan325change what's in the hostname file?03:19
Danarjeeze, i leave and this happens?03:19
naliothbigfoot1: try a linux native browser03:20
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naliothDanar: every1 left with you03:20
bigfoot1okay, nalioth. but i will miss the extensions in firefox. sniff sniff03:20
vgui    gdrmyukgj,gj,t03:20
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: just regular dvd's.... Matrix, Master and Commander, and Gladiator03:20
auknalioth; such as?03:20
langolieri want to get my zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on ubuntu. can anybody help?03:20
Danari never left :p03:20
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naliothMidNightRaVeN: have you installed libdvdcss2?03:20
vguikisss my ass03:20
fujikoi love firefox+adblock too ^^03:20
vguifuccckkker03:20
Danarer, i 'left' physically03:20
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: you mean, no BR2?03:20
Quest-MasterKick please :)03:20
naliothauk: ask your question plainly, and you will get answers03:20
Quest-Masterrofl03:20
aukdamn!03:20
Danaryikes03:20
Razor-Xfujiko: Opera doesen't need extensions, it does everything by itself03:20
MidNightRaVeNnalioth what is libdbddcss2?03:21
naliothfujiko: bigfoot1 adblocking doesnt require an extension03:21
fujikoi love pain and suffering03:21
Razor-Xwith an executable size 1/3 less than UPX'd Firefox, it gets 8x the job done03:21
DanarRazor-X: yes it does03:21
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: what's BR2?03:21
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aukopera is bloated03:21
socommAdblock+flashblock == <303:21
naliothMidNightRaVeN: to decode your dvd, you need libdvdcss203:21
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: Battle Royale 2 ;)03:21
Quest-MasterOpera is commercial eww03:21
DanarRazor-X: there's plenty of things opera is lacking03:21
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: lol no03:21
aukyeah03:21
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MidNightRaVeNnalioth: think that'll fix it??03:21
Danaropera is very good, but firefox is better for most people03:21
Razor-XDanar: such as?03:21
auki tried opera, and couldn't stand it03:21
Razor-XMidNightRaVeN: one of the best movies of all time, short to only EoE03:22
vguicxncvddd03:22
naliothMidNightRaVeN: fix what? YOU can install libdvdcss203:22
DanarRazor-X: well, there's like a thousand extensions03:22
misfit_toymmm mm good by doggies Jed I've done it again, pork ribs hot texas style with baked potatoes and beans.03:22
socommOpera is a QT app if I'm not mistaken.03:22
DanarRazor-X: want a list? go to extensionsmirror.nl03:22
Razor-XDanar: which take up CPU usage03:22
Razor-Xand RAM03:22
DanarRazor-X: hardly03:22
Quest-MasterOpera costs money, Firefox doesn't. Who wants to pay for a freaking browser nowadays, come on?03:22
Razor-Xwhich I only have 256 MB and 1.6 ghz of03:22
aukdnaar: lol03:22
MidNightRaVeNRazor-X: i feel ashamed to say that i have never seen it then...03:22
DanarRazor-X: many extensions are only a few K03:22
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Razor-XQuest-Master: OMG OMG i'm too cheap to buy stuff!!11!! ;)03:22
aukSTOP!!03:22
aukman that is annoying!03:22
Quest-MasterNetsplit <303:23
bigfoot1nalioth,  but other extensions, such as gmail notifier or webmailcompose (mailto: links are directed to web version of gmail, rather than to evolution) will be missed. Can i get these  feauters in the browsers you've cited?03:23
naliothi personally use galeon and kazehakase, both gecko based gtk2 browsers03:23
socommJesus, this netsplits are getting annoying.03:23
Quest-MasterRazor-X.. ha-ha.03:23
Razor-Xauk: that's called netsplits buddy ;)03:23
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: i just mean fix the problem of Totem and Xine both stalling and not reading DVDs03:23
BeefTubewhy is there a DVD and a CD install for AMD64? which one is optimum ?03:23
naliothi personally find firefox bloated and slow03:23
Razor-Xsame here03:23
aukRazor-X: i know03:23
naliothextensions are nice, but.. .. ..03:23
Quest-MasterFirefox IS pretty terrible in general03:23
vguiuio;tgp97;gbv08jyhp89ug03:23
Quest-MasterBut03:23
vguiLJLJL03:23
Razor-XFirefox cannot manage anything more than 8 tabs well03:23
vguiRYUR03:23
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vguiHKHJFHJD03:23
vguiFGSCZX VU8746U503:23
DanarRazor-X: man, it's a browser. people don't have to pay for browsers, so it's unreasonable to expect them to03:23
Quest-MasterI still haven't found anything better03:23
Quest-MasterGuys03:23
vguiXVVXVX03:23
vguiHNCGHGDGH03:23
Razor-XBeefTube: the pwnage browser03:23
aukopera is the bloated one, in m yopinion03:23
vguiHKHHJGOEFP DLW[ERIP03:23
Razor-Xvgui: right, whatever03:23
Quest-MasterKick vgui please03:23
vguiDTJTBV03:23
vguiGHFC ] 03:23
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DanarRazor-X: just about the only thing opera offers over other browsers is security03:23
BeefTubeyea, lol03:23
vguiMFFNCXTH/03:23
vguiJGGHRTY4TRGSFSGWRT] 03:23
ColonelKernelis there a net install of Ubuntu?03:23
Razor-Xauk: obviously, you don't know about filesize03:23
vguiFGDVCBVDDTYY03:23
vguiGJGGJGG03:23
Quest-Mastervgui.. >:03:23
DanarQuentusrex: terrible how?03:24
NoHopeRazor-X, I'm sorry... Ubuntu must have adsl-setup... what is happening?03:24
aukgecko does font rendering all by itself03:24
Razor-XDanar: and a smaller filesize, overhead, and better standards conformation03:24
BeefTubevgui has a stuttering problem03:24
DanarRazor-X: not by much03:24
BeefTubegive him a minuet he will spit it out03:24
aukthat takes up space.03:24
vguiHJFHHJ03:24
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Razor-XI don't have a GB of RAM man03:24
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Razor-Xor 120 GB of HDD space03:24
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place?03:24
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Discipulusgod damn03:24
Razor-XI have 256 MB of RAM, and 40 GB of HDD space03:24
NoHopeDo you know why my Ubuntu has not adsl-setup? How could I connect to the internet?03:24
DanarRazor-X: opera isn't fully standards compliant either03:24
Razor-XDanar: much more so than Firefox03:25
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othernoobNoHope: open a konsole and type pppoeconf. and set up your adsl connection03:25
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DanarRazor-X: hardly03:25
_0killshello03:25
Razor-Xothernoob: you're forgetting, he may be using Gnome03:25
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NoHopeothernoob, I will try. thx. pppoeconf03:25
Quest-MasterKornbluth is really terrible right now :x03:25
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Razor-XDanar: not sure what you're smoking03:25
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aukDAnar: opera is hardly as well-off as FF03:25
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: You here??03:25
Razor-Xthe Opera team consists of W3C members03:25
naliothhello03:25
BeefTubeyou guys get java virtual machieen for AMD64 ubuntu? I need that for my Lip sync-ing software.03:25
bddebianHeya nalioth03:25
Quest-MasterOpera really doesn't beat Firefox standards-wise now03:26
_0killshey, i just installed RealPlayer10 for Linux. anyone know the command to launch it?03:26
Razor-Xit does03:26
Razor-Xmost definitely03:26
Quest-MasterMaybe a few months ago, but not now.03:26
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AnObfuscatorUm, this is odd -- I'm trying to use apt to install xfce4, and ubuntu keeps asking me to insert the hoary PPC install CD.03:26
Quest-MasterIt doesn't, Razor-X.03:26
Razor-XFirefox renders things using nonstandard support03:26
othernoobRazor-X: and the Gnome version of Ubuntu doesn't have pppoeconf?03:26
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place?03:26
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BeefTubegroovy03:26
AnObfuscatoronly, I have no idea where my install cd is...03:26
hondjeAnObfuscator: Probably need to comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list03:26
Razor-Xothernoob: it doesen't have Konsole03:26
bddebianAnObfuscator: Do you have CD sources in your sources.list?03:26
AnObfuscatoranyone know what's up with this?03:26
othernoobRazor-X: lol well okay, terminal, shell, anything..03:26
bigfoot1Razor-X, what makes you say that Fx can't do more that 8 tabs well?03:26
Razor-Xhehehe03:26
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bigfoot1BeefTube, what's dillo?03:27
Razor-Xbigfoot1: because of the RAM it takes03:27
bddebianbigfoot1: A browser03:27
Quest-MasterOpera takes just as much.03:27
Razor-Xbigfoot1: the best browser in the world ;) for small browsing03:27
Razor-XQuest-Master: not at all03:27
Quest-MasterIn my tests on this machine with both Opera and Firefox, they both consume the same RAM and run at the same speeds.03:27
langolierdamn, this sucks.. i need a new video card for battlefield 2 and it'd help for linux... and i need a new a/v capture card for support for any recent os... and i need a new lcd tv for adequate viewing surface03:27
Quest-MasterOn both Windows XP and Ubuntu as well. ;)03:27
langolierlife's rough...03:27
BeefTubebigfoot1 it is a fast little browser... http://www.dillo.org/03:27
JimbobDid someone ask for me earlier?03:27
socommDillo is a lightweight browser.03:27
langolier:-P03:27
Razor-XQuest-Master: you must be smoking something real foreign, numerous test results agree, Opera is second-least among full-featured Linux browsers, preceded only by Konquerer on a KDE box03:27
othernoobQuest-Master: with Firefox being capable of just as much? ;)03:28
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bddebianAnObfuscator: Did you "hear" me? :-)03:28
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bigfoot1Razor-X, what do you mean by "small browsing"?03:28
Razor-Xplus, Firefox renders slowly03:28
Quest-MasterRazor-X, link me to these recent test results then?03:28
Razor-Xbigfoot1: less features, my mistake03:28
aukRazor-X: why don't you start learning lynx, then?03:28
BeefTubebigfoot... to get it just do a ---- sudo apt-get install dillo03:28
Razor-Xauk: I know lynx, thank you03:28
Quest-MasterRazor-X: There are fixes for slow rendering with a few quick changes of the options.03:28
BeefTubethen dillo from any command line03:28
bigfoot1Quest-Master, how did you find out how much ram a program takes? did you use top?03:28
Razor-Xand I know emacs, and I know a shitload of console stuff03:28
Razor-Xi'm not afraid to be called a terminal user03:28
nalioths_dogwow my master is on another split server03:28
Razor-Xbecause I _am_ one03:28
Quest-Mastertop, System Monitor, and Ctrl-Alt-Delete on Windows03:28
Quest-Master;)03:28
aukRAzor-X: i tested loading times, and opera was slower03:29
bigfoot1Razor-X, why would you want to use a browser with less features?03:29
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pmaihi03:29
Razor-Xauk: on my box, it's the contrary03:29
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Quest-MasterPlus, some people don't like to pay for browsing the web.03:29
Razor-Xbigfoot1: because all features aren't always used03:29
Quest-MasterAnd some people might not want warez either.03:29
Quest-Master*cough*03:29
othernoobQuest-Master: you don't have to pay for Opera03:29
aukexactly03:29
nalioths_dogbigfoot1, you can add features to all gecko browsers03:29
aukyeah, if you want ads!03:29
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bigfoot1when i asked about netslpit, one person said wikipedia. Don't you think answers.com is better?03:29
Quest-Masterothernoob: Sorry, but personally, I don't want ANYTHING obstrusive in my viewing experience of the internet.03:29
Razor-XQuest-Master: some people also would like to pay for a Lambourghini than get a fre car from '7803:29
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pmaii have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?03:29
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AnObfuscatorOh, duh, I figured it out.03:30
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Razor-Xmuch slowing03:30
Aerebuswhats the command to rename ?03:30
Quest-MasterRazor-X: sorry, but you're comparing apples and oranges now. That argument about cars is void. ;)03:30
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pmaii have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?03:30
Razor-Xyou need a swap of 1 GB03:30
Aerebus;p03:30
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bigfoot1Quest-Master, what do you mean by warez? and what warez are you referring to?03:30
Razor-XQuest-Master: doubt it ;)03:30
Quest-MasterAerebus: mv oldfile newfile03:30
naliothAerebus: do a 'man mv'03:30
bddebianHello pmai03:30
BeefTubeso you dont get hijacked, and spyware when looking up porn...03:30
BeefTubeplus its fast03:30
Razor-Xbigfoot1: software paid for illegally03:30
langolierthat looks like it ought to be pretty easy to crack03:30
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Quest-Masterbigfoot1: Razor-X has implied that he warez'ed his Opera.03:30
nalioths_dogthis is surreal03:30
vguikhji'hdfkkklk03:31
Razor-XBeefTube: Opera does that and more03:31
vguiuysdgy03:31
pmaihi bddebian?03:31
jasoncohenrob^, right click on the file in nautilus, choose properties and then choose an application in open with03:31
pmaii have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?03:31
Razor-XQuest-Master: did I say that?03:31
Danarbigfoot1: answers.com takes from wikipedia, IIRC03:31
vguiiiuyyj03:31
langolierif its encrypted data instead of just blather03:31
Razor-Xno03:31
Aerebusmv is move03:31
Quest-MasterRazor-X: You sure did imply it. Want me to copy and paste the line where you did?03:31
Aerebuswhats rename? :)03:31
Razor-XI bought it, along with Total Commander, two of the best apps ever03:31
BeefTubeBRB, my chatzilla is broken...03:31
nalioths_dogAerebus, yes, and also 'rename'03:31
chrissturmAerebus, man builtins03:31
Razor-XQuest-Master: yes please, go ahead03:31
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bigfoot1Danar, yes, answers.com has the wikipedia entry plus more. that's why i thought answers.com was better.03:31
nalioths_dogAerebus, you use "mv" to rename stuff03:31
bddebianAerebus: mv is synonymous with rename.  There is no rename in GNU/Linux03:31
Razor-Xsince implications are almost always correct, after-all ;)03:31
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Quest-Master<Razor-X> Quest-Master: OMG OMG i'm too cheap to buy stuff!!11!! ;) <-- hmm, I wonder what the wink here implies?03:31
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pmaioh03:32
Quest-Mastervgui, get out. Please.03:32
naliothgod i wish i had ops03:32
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aukyeah03:32
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Razor-XQuest-Master: my ";)" is the equivalent of the :) smilie03:32
Danarbigfoot1: not if they're copying from wikipedia. wikipedia will always be updated more frequently03:32
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BeefTubeheh, so that is that that button does!03:32
Razor-Xnalioth: /ignore ;)03:32
naliothchanne residents, you can /ignore vgui03:32
BeefTubejust /ignore him03:32
squinnhe left.03:32
pmaiyes03:32
BeefTube!!03:32
naliothRazor-X: no, i'd rather +b vgui03:32
ubotuBeefTube: I haven't a clue03:32
LokeDKIf I run an application from a konsole I get.. f.eks with gedit .. (gedit:32584): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:32
pmaii have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?03:32
Razor-Xnalioth: same here03:32
Quest-MasterRazor-X: Should've used the :) smiley then I suppose to avoid disambiguation, right? :)03:32
naliothRazor-X: and then put a foot in his posterior03:32
Razor-Xpmai: much slowdown03:32
Razor-Xyou need a 1 GB swap03:33
BeefTube0o03:33
Danarwhat's with all the attacks on open source project irc channels?03:33
HillTopWhat is the command to hide a poster?03:33
othernoobRazor-X: that's not really true.03:33
bigfoot1nalioth, why do you use two browsers?03:33
Danar#debian, #firefox, #ubuntu, and who knows what else03:33
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pmaiRazor-X okie03:33
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Razor-Xothernoob: what isn't?03:33
othernoobRazor-X: that he'd need 1GB swap03:33
bigfoot1danar, doesn't answers.com use the same current info that's on the wiki?03:33
naliothbigfoot1: because i run ubuntu on a PPC, and things work a little differntly on PPC ubuntu03:33
ColonelKernelis there a net install of Ubuntu?03:34
Razor-Xothernoob: he does for something like Open-Office, or software compilation03:34
pmaiRazor-X how resize exist parttion FAT32?03:34
bigfoot1nalioth, so on your non-ppc comp, what do you use?03:34
langolierwell, the answer should be obvious, danar... freely available stuff anyone can edit is inherantly evil03:34
Razor-XColonelKernel: yeah, there is03:34
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Quest-MasterDanar: Mainly because I'm trying to protect open-source software's reputation here while being compared to a closed, proprietary, commercial application.03:34
ColonelKernelso I dont have to download 4 cds?03:34
ColonelKernelRazor-X, nice03:34
Quest-MasterColonelKernel: Nope03:34
Danarbigfoot1: no, i think they download the database once in a while...03:34
Razor-XQuest-Master: I don't follow the OSS Flag like a blind idiot03:34
naliothbigfoot1: i don't own anything BUT apple hardware03:34
bigfoot1Danar, ok, now i see what you're saying.03:34
Razor-XColonelKernel: it's only 1 CD ;)03:34
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Danarlangolier: heh03:34
ColonelKerneldoes ubuntu Razor-X the whole thing?03:34
Danarpmai: gparted03:34
Quest-MasterRazor-X: Neither do I. I use Photoshop all the time because it was designed from a designer's perspective and Gimp not.03:35
ColonelKernelsorry you cought me unawares in the middle of a sentence03:35
Razor-Xyes, all in one cd03:35
svuanyone having sound on G5 systems?03:35
Danarpmai: i think you might need to defrag it first though03:35
Razor-XQuest-Master: good then03:35
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Razor-Xbecause I know quite a few who'ld lynch you for that03:35
Razor-Xor me for using Opera03:35
misfit_toyany suggestions for a good gui DVD burner that will do cue/bin? k3b won't do it, nor graveman, nor gnomebaker...03:35
Danarpmai: boot to the ubuntu livecd if you have it, and 'apt-get install gparted' and resize it with that03:35
Razor-XOpera, though, is the only piece of moneyed software I use, and two nonfree applications that are free-as-in-beer03:36
ColonelKernelpmai, you WILL need to defrag, and I'd use diskkeeper pro in windoze to do it - its 1000x better than the system defrag utility03:36
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aukrazor: we won't lynch you for usign opera, jsut for bashing firefox ;-)03:36
Quest-MasterRazor-X: Except, I'm simply trying to point out that Firefox isn't as terrible as you make it out to be. :) Don't want to lynch you or anything, we're buds! Everyone is in #ubuntu besides people like vgui..03:36
Razor-XColonelKernel: I had a bad experience with that and NTFS03:36
othernoobmisfit_toy: i had no problems with cue/bin and k3b. only did it once though.03:36
bigfoot1BeefTube, do you use dillo yourself? if so, only dillo? or do you use other browsers-?03:36
naliothsvu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:36
pmaiDanar yes i got these cds from free order03:36
BeefTubeI use lynx also03:36
ColonelKernelRazor-X, with gparted or with diskeeper pro?03:36
Razor-Xauk: well, I'm forgetting the amount of firefox fanboys-and-girls there are in here ;)03:36
misfit_toyothernoob, but to DVD?03:36
Razor-XBeefTube: right on! ;)03:36
othernoobmisfit_toy: yes03:36
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BeefTubeheh :)03:36
Razor-XColonelKernel: the latter03:37
aukrazor-x: that was low03:37
Danarpmai: good. boot from the livecd, open a root terminal, and run 'apt-get install gparted' and use that03:37
svunalioth, thanks03:37
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misfit_toyothernoob, then I must be missing something...hmmm03:37
naliothyou guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support03:37
Razor-XColonelKernel: and my NTFS wouldn't resize in qtparted03:37
nalioththen you'll be manly men03:37
ColonelKernelRazor-X, thats odd, I use it on my windows partition and it rocked03:37
Quest-Masterrofl nalioth.03:37
Razor-Xnalioth: yeah, it's awesome too03:37
DanarBeefTube: elinks is better  :)03:37
misfit_toyothernoob, was it a movie?03:37
Razor-XI know TwiBright links and lynx03:37
BeefTubeok I will try it when i install this afternoon, thanks for the tip :)03:37
Danargparted is better than qtparted, in my experience03:37
ColonelKernelRazor-X, thats REALLY odd - of course I did my rezise with knoppix - but that shouldnt make any difference03:37
Razor-Xi've gotten used to erc now, thanks to the odd debate03:37
iceravenI am trying to play with apache... once it is installed I used nautilus to browse to the directory on the HDD, however I don't have any rights to that directory as a user and can't add any content, what should I do?  Log in as root somehow or give myself rights to that directory somehow?03:37
Razor-XColonelKernel: mine went whacky on me03:37
othernoobmisfit_toy: yes it was a dvd image in cue/bin03:38
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naliothDanar: gtk vs qt?03:38
ColonelKernelRazor-X, its only gone wacky on me if I tried to resize it too much03:38
svunalioth, there is no /dev/dsp on my system. and even /proc/asound/devices shows just timer03:38
Razor-Xand I had to manually disable 5 symantec services from XP with cryptic names, thanks to Symantec's crappy software03:38
golgorwhats the command to create dirs from terminal? :$03:38
pmaiDanar thanks you, i am going to boot03:38
Danarnalioth: i believe so03:38
auknalioth: let me guess oyu use kde?03:38
concept10Anyone know how to increase brightness on laptop screen?03:38
Razor-XI had a hard time resizing, after that it was a breeze03:38
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naliothsvu: i'm sorry, i only run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook03:38
ColonelKernelyeah symantec software is the pits03:38
Danarpmai: gl03:38
Razor-Xauk: anything wrong with using KDE, and I hear he uses E ;)03:38
ColonelKernelI use AVG in windoze03:38
ColonelKernelI think avg even has a linux release03:39
naliothDanar: gparted is gtk, and qtparted is qt03:39
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Razor-Xmy dad installed Symantec03:39
Quest-MasterAVG is excellent03:39
DanarColonelKernel: symantec (norton) had some good dos tools03:39
svunalioth, I see. It seems G5 is not supported yet:(03:39
golgorcan anyone tell me how to create dirs from terminal? :P03:39
Danarnalioth: yeh03:39
Razor-Xqtparted is better than gparted, tohugh03:39
BeefTubeOMG i forgot.. Ubuntu uses gnome by default!!! EeeeeeeeeW!!!03:39
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bddebiansvu: So fix it :-)03:39
ColonelKernelDanar, yeah but dos is dead03:39
Quest-Mastergolgor: mkdir dir03:39
Razor-XBeefTube: heh03:39
naliothsvu: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com03:39
golgorQuest-Master, thx03:39
Quest-Mastergolgor: dir being the name of the directory in the above context03:39
naliothauk: i use the terminal mostly03:39
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DanarQuest-Master: actually, avg sucks03:39
DanarColonelKernel: not really...03:39
naliothauk: with gnome in tha background03:39
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langolierwhere would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me?03:40
aukrazor-x: no, but kde currently has a monopoly and is growing.03:40
Quest-Masterauk: Subjective ;)03:40
bddebianBeefTube: I used to think that but I'm really getting used to gnome03:40
bigfoot1nalioth, you wrote "you guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support." What are you talking about?03:40
DanarQuest-Master: check virusbtn.com03:40
ColonelKernelwell thats true, my mom still uses dos 6.22 or something like that on her server at her work for her outdated bookeeping program03:40
Razor-Xauk: monopoly?03:40
naliothbigfoot1: the 'manly men' part was a joke03:40
auka monopoly stifles creativity and quality03:40
ColonelKernelof course she has to pay someone 90 bucks an hour to maintain her server03:40
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naliothbigfoot1: you can google "twibright links" and you'll be directed to twibright labs03:40
BeefTubeyea, gnome is cool... I will just pop in XFCE afteter the install 8)03:40
Razor-Xauk: what do you mean by monopoly? I know Government theory well enough03:40
bddebianUhm since when was DOS 6.22 an NOS?03:40
bigfoot1nalioth, so you were talking about twibright links?03:40
qt2is there a simple way to switch from gentoo to ubuntu?03:41
Razor-Xand contrary to most OSS users, i'm a slight totalitarion-pro person03:41
svubddebian, thanks for the idea :)03:41
ColonelKernelnice , so ubuntu uses apt-get?03:41
naliothbigfoot1: their source code for links has the ability for you to choose to enable graphics and javascript (and lots more)03:41
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ColonelKernelthat rocks03:41
Danaryes03:41
aukrazor-x: "government theory"?03:41
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cyphasehey everyone03:41
DanarColonelKernel: it's based on debian03:41
bddebianHello cybersystem03:41
Razor-Xauk: yes, government theory03:41
bddebianErr cyphase even03:41
aukmost linux users use kde03:41
svunalioth, yeah, I browsed around - and found only negative info :(03:41
ColonelKernelDanar, right on, im downloading it now03:41
bigfoot1nalioth, so this is a browser you're takling about?03:41
bddebianDamn tab completion03:41
aukthe great majority, at least03:41
Razor-Xauk: and most linux users use xine03:41
ZodiacHey guys, how do I set the DMA for the DVD playback03:41
naliothsvu: then ask uncle google (groups)03:41
Razor-X*ubuntu users03:41
DanarColonelKernel: :) you can also have CDs sent to you for free03:41
ColonelKernelI use mplayer03:41
naliothbigfoot1: yes, and a damned fast one03:41
Razor-Xand most ubuntu users use many default ones03:41
DanarColonelKernel: free shipping too03:41
Razor-Xlook at me, do I? no03:41
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ColonelKernelDanar, thats cool, I saw that03:42
Razor-XEterm, emacs, trackball, Dvorak03:42
naliothbigfoot1: have you used links, or lynx or elinks?03:42
langolierwhere would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me?03:42
ColonelKernelI didnt know it was free shipping too though03:42
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bigfoot1nalioth, so many browsers: twilight, dillo, hakikaze, galeon, epiphany. which is good, i wonder?03:42
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ZodiacHey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback?03:42
bigfoot1nalioth, i used to use lynx 6 years ago.03:42
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bigfoot1but now i use firefox.03:42
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svunalioth, as I see, "not quite there yet" in 2.6.12 - so 2.6.10 is hardly any better...03:42
naliothbigfoot1: well, the twibright flavored links, is a text mode browser (all *links are) that has graphics capability (if compiled in)03:43
Razor-Xthere's a keyboard driven Gecko based browser by the Mozilla team, I hear03:43
naliothbigfoot1: so it works in the terminal or xserver03:43
naliothsvu: yes, the price you pay for early adoption (of linux)03:43
Razor-Xnalioth: I compiled mine with X with graphics03:43
Razor-X:(03:43
naliothsvu: what G5 do you have?03:43
Razor-XI may need to remedy that03:43
bigfoot1nalioth, but i run the gui, should this be something that interests GUI/Desktop users?03:43
ZodiacGuys?03:43
naliothRazor-X: yes i know03:43
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bddebianlangolier: /etc/modules?03:44
naliothbigfoot1: you can go get the source, learn a little about compiling, and have a blazing fast minimalist graphical browser03:44
ZodiacHey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback?03:44
svunalioth, dual power G5 (you know, the linuxonpower contest prize)03:44
bddebianZodiac != male? :-)03:44
ZodiacDag sorry03:44
naliothsvu: i shouldnt have asked... <drool>03:44
BeefTubeanother cool thiong about dillo... is is easyer to type from the commandline... you can do things like.. dillo www.google.com or dillo slashdot.com.... you can do it from commandline with firefox too but it is long to type... mozilla-firefox www.google.com.... phew My fingers are tired now 8)03:44
langolierdamn it... doesn't look like the zoran codec supports my zoran card :(03:44
Razor-XBeefTube: you can do that with lynx too ;)03:45
poningruyeah dillo is awesome03:45
naliothsvu: why arent you running OSX + fink + darwinports?03:45
ZodiacDoes anyone know?03:45
Razor-Xbut yeah, dillo pwnz03:45
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naliothBeefTube: you can do that with ANY browser03:45
aukbeeftube: symlink mozilla-firefox to soemthing else03:45
Razor-Xnalioth: not all (most probably)03:45
naliothBeefTube: nobody has told you about aliases yet?03:45
Razor-XI haven't encountered one that doesen't, though03:45
BeefTubeCool 8)03:45
BeefTubeDam Small linux has a script to make Dillo have tabs and java i think03:45
bigfoot1nalioth, okay maybe in the future, i'll try terminal-based browsers. but for now, i'd like to find something to replace this memory-leaking Fx. what's the best alternative among the 3 mentioned: galeon or epiphany or kazehakase?03:45
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NoHopehi all!03:45
naliothRazor-X: 99% of the programs on this box are command-line-driveable03:46
Razor-XBeefTube: yeah, it's a dillo patch that's commonly available03:46
NoHopeI'm finnaly on Ubuntu!!!03:46
BeefTubecool03:46
svunalioth, :) because I need x10 stuff, some kernel modules. and I want to be able to do gnome development as well03:46
naliothbigfoot1: try galeon03:46
Razor-Xbigfoot1: do you use Gnome, or KDE?03:46
ColonelKernellol BeefTube your nick is a riot03:46
BeefTubeI am gonna get it 8)03:46
Razor-Xor another Window Manager?03:46
bigfoot1Razor-X, i use gnome03:46
naliothsvu: x10?03:46
djm62bigfoot1: I think epiphany is the official gnome browser03:46
qt2is there a simple way to install ubuntu paralell to gentoo?03:46
BeefTubethanks 8)03:46
svunalioth, yeah03:46
Razor-Xthen Galeon would be good03:46
Razor-Xqt2: of course03:46
naliothsvu: i'm ignorant, what is it?03:46
DanarBeefTube: symlink mf to firefox, and use tab completion. and you don't need 'www'03:46
svunalioth, namely, "wish". It is about home automation03:46
bigfoot1djm62, what's the importance of something being the official Gnome browser?03:46
naliothsvu: oh those X10 things03:47
BeefTubeSweet, thanks for the tip 8)03:47
bigfoot1djm62, in other words, does something being "official" mean much?03:47
svunalioth, exactly :)03:47
naliothsvu: it doesnt run on osx?03:47
aukblah03:47
ZodiacMy DVD playback is skipping03:47
djm62bigfoot1: integration might be a little nicer, and more components might be shared with gnome (decreasing memory footprint)03:47
langolier /join #zoran03:47
BeefTubeclean your disk03:47
bigfoot1i see.03:47
naliothbigfoot1: they are all free to try, try them all and keep what you like03:47
poningruZodiac: hold on let me get the link03:47
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djm62bigfoot1: these are "mights"...the right one is the one you like best03:47
bigfoot1djm62, do you use epiphany?03:47
svunalioth, it builds some linux kernel modules. I am not particularly interested in porting them to osx :)03:47
Zodiaccool03:47
naliothdjm62: that is galeon and epiphany and kazehakase03:47
naliothsvu: ah03:48
DanarNoHope: congrats :)03:48
naliothsvu: <evil grin> how bout qemu?03:48
djm62bigfoot1: I'm quite happy on firefox, but I have plenty of memory03:48
Razor-XI may switch Opera if someone presents something better (not Firefox)03:48
qt2Razor-X, i was thinking installing it on another drive and adding an entry to grub.conf.. :o03:48
bigfoot1how much memory, djm62 ?03:48
Razor-Xqt2: works03:48
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BeefTubeI have 2 dvd rom drives...am i going to have to disconnect one to get grub to install properly? TIA03:48
dapimp53I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop and the mouse touchpad is not working. I had to plug in a USB mouse. How do I get my touchpad to start working?03:48
djm62bigfoot1: 512M minus video03:48
poningruZodiac: there was a thing that you had to enable for your drive03:48
svunalioth, well, I did not think of it really - but why wasting so much efforts to build linux on macos - instead of just using linux?:)03:48
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Razor-XBeefTube: not really03:48
naliothqt2: sounds good03:48
poningruit was called dma or udm or something03:49
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BeefTubeCool :)03:49
poningrubut dont remember or find the link03:49
Razor-Xponingru: dma ;)03:49
vladuz976hey is anybody in here using gmailfs? i get thie error when trying to mount: fusermount: old style mounting not supported03:49
naliothsvu: go google qemu and check it out03:49
bigfoot1Razor-X, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase a good alternative to firefox? why pay for opera?03:49
poningruRazor-X: do you have the link to enabling that in a drive03:49
djm62svu: hardware support on modern PPC platforms is a factor03:49
vladuz976anybody know what to do here03:49
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naliothsvu: its deliciously evil03:49
poningruthere was a howto for that03:49
ZodiacWhat do you mean ponigru?03:49
NoHopehey, why [apt-get install beep]  doesn't work?03:49
Razor-Xponingru: don't remember offhand, no03:49
poningrulet me go search03:49
svunalioth, well, I'll give it a thought...03:49
svudjm62, other than 3D and sound - it is ok so far03:50
bigfoot1okay, i've just downloaded dillo.03:50
poningrufound it03:50
poningruZodiac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%2903:50
uniqliz4rd: yes?03:50
BeefTube73%!!! a few more minuets and  i will be enjoying Ubuntu doing a 1 hour apt-get dist upgrade 8)03:50
naliothsvu: max out your ram, and run OSX and ubuntu simultaneously03:50
djm62svu: yeah...some of us like music and quake ;)03:50
poningruif your drive is new it should help with the skipping03:50
Razor-XBeefTube: to breezy?03:50
aukbigfoot1: tell me if you find anything better than firefox03:50
Razor-Xauk: Opera03:50
golgoranyone got apache and php working?03:50
BeefTube0o03:50
bigfoot1auk, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase?03:50
naliothauk: you can use the others yourself, they are free!03:50
Razor-X;)03:50
auki wasn' talking to you razor-x03:51
BeefTubeheh03:51
Razor-Xauk: does it matter?03:51
svunalioth, the point is that I do not _particularly_ need macosx... If only I'll get sound at some point...03:51
DanarRazor-X: you want something better than opera other than firefox? why?03:51
auki've tried galeon and epiphany03:51
bigfoot1auk, i'm going to download the 3, and see which is nice.03:51
djm62this is FREE stuff we're discussing03:51
Razor-XDanar: I said, i'm open to something better03:51
svudjm62, quake is too old for me:)03:51
naliothsvu: ok then (was hopin for a guinea pig)03:51
DanarNoHope: 'doesn't work' doesn't tell us anything03:51
Razor-Xdjm62: it matters not for me03:51
Zodiachmmm my DMA apears to be on... yet it still skips03:51
DanarRazor-X: you also said 'other than firefox'03:51
naliothRazor-X: try galeon03:51
dapimp53Can anyone help me with my mouse problems?03:51
djm62Razor-X: music?03:51
Razor-XDanar: exactly, because i've already tried Firefox03:51
bddebianTry Internet Exploder in Wine then.. ;-P03:52
svunalioth, :) anyway, thanks for the idea. I am going to try mac-on-linux also03:52
Razor-Xnalioth: it's Gnome based03:52
NoHopeDanar, see the error:03:52
aukdapimp53: i sure can't03:52
DanarRazor-X: so you think it's not better. why?03:52
bddebianMOL?? Ewww :-)03:52
NoHoperoot@codeone:/ # apt-get install beep03:52
NoHopeReading package lists... Done03:52
NoHopeBuilding dependency tree... Done03:52
NoHopeE: Couldn't find package beep03:52
naliothsvu: good luck with MOL03:52
aukbddebian: don't you mean internet exploiter ;)03:52
NoHopeDanar, what could it be?03:52
naliothNoHope: dont paste, please03:52
bddebianauk: Or that :-)03:52
naliothNoHope: its called bmp i believe03:52
DanarNoHope: how about _you_ see the error ;p03:52
Razor-XDanar: because anything more than 8 tabs is not memory-managed correctly, the number of extensions you need for basic functioning is enormous, and the interface of Firefox feels clunkier than Opera to me03:52
naliothRazor-X: so what do you want?03:52
naliothRazor-X: firefox isnt native to any platform03:53
svunalioth, is it bad?03:53
Razor-Xnalioth: as I said, me no want Firefox ;)03:53
NoHopenalioth, Danar, the same error for bmp.03:53
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naliothRazor-X: galeon, kaze~ and epiphany are all gtk2 based gecko browsers03:53
DanarRazor-X: you might be right about the tabs, but you're wrong about the extensions03:53
poningruRazor-X: please try the latest firefox03:53
naliothRazor-X: then you need to be specific and say "NO GECKO"03:53
Razor-XDanar: it takes a toll on a 256 MB RAM box03:53
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Razor-Xnalioth: NO GECKO03:53
Razor-X;)03:53
poningrudp dev is availble03:53
djm62opera is OK...I find it "feels better" to use free software03:53
Quest-MasterCan't wait till Mozilla Deer Park is stabilized and then turned to the new Firefox release03:53
Quest-Master:D03:53
DanarNoHope: obviously it's not working because you're not using the right package name. try apt-cache search beep03:53
NoHopenalioth, Danar, I tried with a lot of packages... firefox, gnome, etc... the same error.03:53
naliothRazor-X: stick with opera, then03:53
Razor-Xnalioth: mmmkay, heh03:54
naliothNoHope: use synaptic03:54
poningruyeah to each his own03:54
DanarNoHope: run synaptic and hit refresh03:54
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aukhey, whrer did you come form!03:54
BeefTubewow, is geko in apt? that is neat... i have been playing in PC linux... verry limmited apt repository... looking forward to ubuntu and shopping for neat new applications03:54
Danaror reload, or whatever it is03:54
aukdamn you, poningru!03:54
aukyou say one line on every channel i'm on, even on diff servers!03:55
poningruwtf03:55
BeatYou-zZzhas anyone ever installed koalamud ?03:55
BeatYou-zZz!info koalamud03:55
ubotukoalamud: (a distributed MUD server), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.3.2a-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 328 kB03:55
golgorphp and apache anyone?03:55
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BeatYou-zZzgolgor what about them ?03:55
BeatYou-zZznick BeatYou03:55
BeatYou-zZz!info gnome-mud03:56
ubotugnome-mud: (multi user dungeon client for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.10.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 342 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB03:56
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golgorBeatYou-zZz, i need help getting php to work03:56
Razor-XBeatYou-zZz: Pokemon Diamond? ;)03:56
NoHopenalioth, there is no beep. There is no bmp.03:56
dapimp53grrrrr Why cant I get my touchpad to work nor my wireless internet03:57
naliothNoHope: search in synaptic for beep (in package name and content)03:57
BeefTubegoing to attempt compileing cinelerra... I need a good video editor for my animations03:57
DanarNoHope: beep-media-player03:57
Jigokuyeah, same here with the touch pad.03:57
nalioths_dogNoHope: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:57
BeatYou-zZzgolgor you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed ?03:57
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Razor-Xis there anything good for encoding/transcoding in Linux?03:57
nalioths_dogNoHope: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:57
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naliothRazor-X: transcode03:57
poningrurofl03:57
qt2now then, how do i figure out what grub sees /dev/hdc5 as?03:57
DanarNoHope: anything in your sources list?03:57
Razor-Xnalioth: is that a program? ;)03:57
golgorim with php 5.0.403:57
Razor-Xand what are its features?03:57
naliothRazor-X: yes and a good one03:58
Zodiacdamn my volume is maxed out and it is still weak as hell03:58
golgorjust libapache2-mod-php5?03:58
djm62qt2: it uses its own system, if you do "info grub" you can find it03:58
naliothRazor-X: go to its homepage and see what ARENT its features03:58
golgorBeatYou-zZz, just libapache2-mod-php5?03:58
BeatYou-zZzgolgor: ubuntu doens't have packages for php5 on the repos03:58
djm62qt2: I think that would be (hd3,6) but check the page03:58
golgorawww03:58
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golgoreasier to set up php4?03:58
golgori guess03:58
BeatYouphp5 is unstable anyway ;] 03:58
djm62qt2: a,b,c are counted from zero, and I think the partitions are as well03:59
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golgorBeatYou, how to remove php5 then? :P03:59
BeatYougolgor did you just download source for php5 or something ?03:59
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BeatYouhow did you install it in the first place03:59
golgoryea03:59
NoHopenalioths_dog, yap. It worked. thx!03:59
golgorBeatYou, i downloaded the source and compiled, installed03:59
golgorBeatYou, wont work :(04:00
GMachine_24Anyone know how to solve the virtual link to .ttf file needed for mplayer?04:00
BeatYouwell, there is more to it, you have to link apache2 with php504:00
BeatYouin httpd.conf04:00
JigokuAnyone that can help a noob get his touchpad working on dell4100 w/ ubuntu?04:00
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aukdell yuck04:00
auk(sorry)04:00
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JigokuIt's used, and all I could afford... laptop.04:01
siorfinanyone here know anything about running world of warcraft on cadega04:01
siorfincedega04:01
ZodiacIs Xine-ui different from Totem-XINE04:01
BeatYounot everyone lives computers auk...04:01
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djm62Jigoku: have you had a look at the hardware wiki (more likely to be on there than for someone in here to have one)04:01
aukbetyou: what do you mena?04:01
BeefTubehttp://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/    Is this for ubuntu also? I want to master some live cd for my students/clients04:01
BeatYounothing04:01
aukBeatYou: what do you mean?04:01
bigfoot1kazehakase says i need to download PSM (Personal Security manager) when I went to gmail.com. So how do i get PSM?04:01
naliothBeefTube: there is a wiki article on remastering ubuntu04:02
BeefTubecool :)04:02
BeatYougolgor: LoadModule php5_module in httpd.conf maybe ?04:02
GMachine_24you need a download site for ubuntu beef?04:02
naliothbigfoot1: install mozilla-psm04:02
Jigokuoh, ok, thanks.04:02
p8ntballer100822man... theres alot of flippin sweet programs in the universe04:02
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bigfoot1nalioth, thanks.04:02
golgorBeatYou, ill try04:02
BeatYouLoadModule php5_module /path/to04:02
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BeatYouyou have to make apache recognize .php also04:02
naliothp8ntballer100822: wait til you get to the multiverse04:02
dabaRthe universe is without limits.04:03
dapimp53\quit04:03
poningrup8ntballer100822: try the multiverse04:03
dabaRnalioth: multiverse is shit.04:03
BeatYougolgor: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php04:03
p8ntballer100822i feal like its christmas04:03
Kikinatorcan anyone help with a java installation problem?04:03
p8ntballer100822getting all these cool apps04:03
dabaRKikinator: many04:03
djm62!java04:03
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:03
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dabaRKikinator: whats up?04:03
p8ntballer100822how do i get into my the multi universe04:03
p8ntballer100822?04:03
djm62Kikinator: are you following that page?04:03
pink-noobI'm trying to install the FLAC plugin for BMP, but all the archive file contains, is a .la file and a .so file... Does anyone know where I should start?04:03
KikinatorI download the plugin, but it doesn't install04:04
nalioths_dogKikinator: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 04:04
bddebianp8ntballer100822: Modify your /etc/apt/sources.list04:04
dabaRp8ntballer100822: in your sources.list, add multiverse where universe is04:04
naliothKikinator: follow the dog04:04
p8ntballer100822i marked so much shit its gunna take forever to dl04:04
p8ntballer100822o i did do that already04:04
bigfoot1i installed ephiphany, but when i do "epiphany" it says it's not found. what is the command name?04:04
djm62wow, computing dogs for the uncomputery04:04
p8ntballer100822i am in the multiuniverse04:04
naliothbddebian: he should have official list + backports (p804:04
dabaRmultiverse04:04
golgornope04:04
aukbigfoot1: epiphany-browser04:04
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bddebiannalioth: :-)04:05
bigfoot1auk, how do i get epiphany-browser into my main menu?04:05
naliothbigfoot1: should be applications > internet > epiphany04:05
BeefTubeheh, I want to make a Xbox ubuntu!! with AdvancedMAME and Xmame, and Xmess, and bring all the joy and delight back to my gameing time... I want to make a arcade cabinate with the Xbox inside as the brains... have all my Xbox games on hard drive somehow so I can choose them from a menu...04:05
aukbigfoot1: gnome or what?04:05
bigfoot1auk, gnome.04:05
dabaRbigfoot1: install it. sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser04:05
auktehn what nalioth said04:05
bigfoot1i installed epiphany. is epiphany different from epiphany-browser?04:05
BeefTubemake a Xbox cluster system 8)04:05
dabaRyes04:05
aukno04:05
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dabaRits a game04:05
p8ntballer100822all these programs are gunna take so long to dl i must of marked like 300 of them04:05
dabaRauk: ...04:06
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naliothbigfoot1: you need to install epiphany-browser04:06
aukbigfoot1: epiphany is a browser epiphany -browser is the command to invoke it04:06
Kikinatoranother thing, my root filesystem partition is my largest partition, but it won't let me write anything on it...and for some reason, I can't login as root04:06
bigfoot1nalioth, so you're saying i downloaded the wrong thing?04:06
aukoh! you mean you installe dteh package "epiphany"04:06
djm62Kikinator: that is deliberate04:06
dabaRauk: epiphany is a game, to install browser, epiphany-browser, after that, from command line epiphany calls it.04:06
NYRangerhey all.  I just ran Unbuntu from the CD.  Its pretty awesome.  One odd thing though.  its only letting me use a resolution of 640x480.  I have an Intel Extreme Graphics Adapter.  is there a quick fix or should I research it on Google?04:06
dabaRin fact, I know, I use it.04:06
Kikinatorso how do I login as root?04:07
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nalioths_dogKikinator: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:07
DonLBeefTube, just read this morning about someone in England getting charged by Microsoft for selling modded Xboxes04:07
djm62Kikinator: being root as a habit is a bad idea, ubuntu has no root user by default04:07
aukdabaR: yes, i forgot, it's not a bad game actually "a baldrdash clone"04:07
BeefTubeI would not sell them04:07
Kikinatorbut I need root in order to use my main partition04:07
naliothNYRanger: it can be fixed when you install it04:07
dabaRboulder dash04:07
ch_604can anyone help me with my resolution?04:07
Kikinatorit says my account lacks permissions04:07
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p8ntballer100822mmmmmmm mutil universe programs04:07
NYRangernalioth: It did not give me a choice though.04:07
dabaRbald rash is a medical condition ;)04:07
pink-noobKikinator: sudo?04:07
bigfoot1i just did an istall of mozilla-psm, but kazehakase still tells me to get psm.04:07
dabaR!resolution04:07
ubotufrom memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:07
naliothNYRanger: at the boot prompt is asks you to press f1 for help or enter to boot04:08
golgorBeatYou, query04:08
BeefTubeI want to cluster 100 Xboxes together, install linux... and figure out the meaning of life, while I surf for good porn.04:08
dabaRwtf is kazehakase?04:08
Kikinatorlike, I tried mkdir /file    but it said I lacked permissions04:08
naliothNYRanger: press f1 or whatever it is and look for video options04:08
jack_Woher kann man Informationen bekommen, wie man die Zugriffsrechte fr DVD-Ram ndert?04:08
dabaRsudo mkdir /file04:08
naliothdabaR: a japanese made gecko browser04:08
dabaR<input your password>04:08
aukdabaR: form context, abrowser04:08
nalioth!info kazehakase04:08
ubotukazehakase: (gecko based web browser using GTK), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 554 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB04:08
Razor-Xafter this, I have to try using emms04:09
NYRangernalioth: interesting thing.  when i booted of the cd in vmware (weird setup I know) it did give me a choice of resolutions.04:09
BeefTubeok burning my ISO... be back in  a while while it updates 8)04:09
dabaR!info kazehakase-psm04:09
naliothdabaR: !resolution doesnt work on the liveCD04:09
naliothNYRanger: thats because vmware simulated a known video card04:09
dabaRnalioth: my resolution is fine/:) wouldnt know, + i install ubuntu04:09
bigfoot1when i installed epiphany, it needed the gecko browser. What is this geko/mozilla browser anyway?04:10
naliothdabaR: yes, but his ? concerned the livecd04:10
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Wake up man.. :-)04:10
DonLnalioth, I'm sure I changed res using the live cd.04:10
naliothbigfoot1: the gecko rendering engine is the heart of mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, galeon, epiphany, blah blah04:10
Triffid_Hunterbigfoot1: same engine as firefox, different toolbars afaik04:10
dabaRdpkg-reconfigure xserver-whateverserverlivecduses does not work?04:10
BeatYou!info acm404:10
BeatYou!info acm04:10
NYRangerthe ubuntu is very sweet though.  Performs much faster then Fedora does.04:10
ubotuacm4: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.7-14 (hoary), Packaged size: 859 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB04:10
ubotuacm: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 5.0-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1180 kB04:10
dabaRnalioth: camino...04:10
naliothDonL: i'm sure you have a recognized video card, also04:10
DonLAhh. That may be the case04:11
naliothdabaR: camino is for OSX, this is #ubuntu04:11
bigfoot1so gecko browser is the foundation from which the other browsers build on?04:11
Razor-Xthe Gecko Engine04:11
dabaR#ubuntu, oh sorry,04:11
naliothbigfoot1: the engine they run on04:11
Razor-Xnot all other browsers, only some04:11
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djm62bigfoot1: gecko is a thing for converting html to the image on your screen04:11
Razor-Xhey dabaR04:11
Razor-Xagain ;)04:11
bddebianwb dabaR :-0)04:11
dabaRhehe, a reaction.04:12
naliothp8ntballer100822: remember what i said about comments04:12
djm62bigfoot1: the concept behind mozilla and firefox is that the browser UI is also written in an xml variant, and rendered by gecko04:12
Razor-XKHTML also pwnz04:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYbdebbian i'm just getting ready for bed though04:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYforgot i had a dr appt in the morning04:12
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: Did you have any luck?04:12
p8ntballer100822yes...04:12
djm62bigfoot1: whereas in epiphany the UI is in gtk, and only the inside of the browser window is rendered with gecko04:12
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: I just set it up right now and it worked immediately.. ?? :-(04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYbdebbian no i have been tinkering with it for a bit04:13
bigfoot1oh, sorry, i used the wrong word. I meant mozilla browser. When i installed epiphany, it had to install mozilla browser, as well. my question is: what is this mozilla browser, and why would anyone want to use it ?04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell then i did something wrong04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't yet know what it is04:13
naliothbigfoot1: which makes gtk based browsers faster under gnome04:13
dabaRbigfoot1: you really never heard of mozilla?04:13
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bigfoot1for dillo users: do you have https enabled? how did you do that?04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi may have broken ubuntu somehow04:13
linuxpoetanybody here use modpython?04:13
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: That is so strange04:13
bigfoot1dabaR, i have. it's the folks that made firefox.04:13
djm62bigfoot1: it's the gecko renderer and enough extra bits to make it a stand-alone browser04:13
naliothbigfoot1: epiphany and galeon and kaze, all need mozilla for its gecko engine04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i know04:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought it was install and go but somehow it's not and i don't know why04:14
qt2woot, foamy \o/04:14
dabaRbigfoot1: then why the two questions?04:14
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Kikinatorah, another thing.  Let's say I download a file, how do I write it to my root filesystem?04:14
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: How are you trying to hit the samba machine, just with Windows Explorer?04:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i'm gonna go to bed now i will see you laterz04:14
naliothKikinator: use sudo04:14
bigfoot1dabaR, i just didid'nt understand why another browser was necessary when i asked for epiphany.04:14
Razor-XKikinator: root filesystem?04:14
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: sleep well04:14
Razor-Xyou mean, as a root user?04:14
bddebianChurcH_of_FoamY: OK, sorry I took so long getting back on, I got called back in to work half way home!! :-(04:15
Kikinatorso I would copy the file from it's original location then?04:15
dabaRok, you asked differently, but yeah, like they said,.04:15
djm62Kikinator: you might want to resize your /home partition if you find it cramped04:15
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aukfirefox is one with the web04:15
DonLChurcH_of_FoamY, I think what it does is use the Mozilla engine and put it's own front end on it04:15
dabaRyes, it sure is.04:15
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aukit uses web languages and code for basic things04:15
auklike UI04:15
Kikinatoryeah, only 2 GB04:16
KikinatorXD04:16
Kikinatordo I use fdisk or cfdisk?04:16
bigfoot1I want dillo to work with https webpages. it said: " *** Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled now ***  If you want to test this alpha support code, just remove line 56 from https.c, recompile and reinstall.(beware that this https support is very limited now)."  How exactly do i do this? please help, fellow dillo users.04:16
naliothKikinator: your choice04:16
Kikinatoror can I switch to windows and use partition magic?04:16
dabaRcfdisk is a graphical front end to fdisck04:16
dabaRno c04:16
naliothbigfoot1: dillo suX0rs, imho04:16
djm62Kikinator: yeah04:16
bigfoot1nalioth, did you say "sucks"?04:16
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naliothdabaR: what? cfdisk is a curses based fdisk04:17
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dabaRbigfoot1: well, I mean, it tells you right there.04:17
naliothbigfoot1: yes i did, dillo imho SUX04:17
Kikinatoroh ok, thanks! ^^04:17
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dabaRnalioth: is it not?04:17
adwaithey ppl04:17
naliothKikinator: partition magic is always the best04:17
dabaRyo adwait.04:17
bigfoot1i am trying kazehakase with gmail. and gmail says "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser." What's up?04:17
Razor-Xit can work Partition Magic04:17
Razor-X*_Magic_04:17
naliothdabaR: cfdisk is a terminal curses fdisk client04:17
aarcanewell, between three trips to the forums, using google of course, two bits of hacked together information, and compiles from source..  well..  wlan works :D04:18
Razor-Xbigfoot1: gmail doesen't specifically support that browser04:18
dabaRbigfoot1: use a supported browser,.,.04:18
naliothdabaR: the only graphical fdisk i know is gparted or qtparted04:18
Razor-Xit supports Firefox and IE and Mozilla because so many people use it04:18
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dabaRcurses graphical, same  thing.04:18
dabaRits a gui04:18
naliothbigfoot1: any gecko based browser is gmail compatible04:18
dabaRjust a terminal gui04:18
qt2is it possible to install ubuntu on another drive from within another distro?04:18
linuxpoetfirefox04:18
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Razor-Xdaba: there's no such thing as a terminal GUI04:18
naliothdabaR: <sigh> no its not an X gui04:18
aarcanebigfoot1, dillo is an emergency hack and crack browser..  it just does html and nothing else.  no css, no sessions, no cookies.  it does jack shit.  :)04:19
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bigfoot1dabaR, Razor-X, nalioth: you mean kazehakase is not a gecko-based browser?04:19
poningrujust use qtparted04:19
Razor-Xcures is a CLI04:19
poningruits pretty good04:19
dabaRwell, so arent any osx or windows apps an X GUUI04:19
ColonelKernelthat sounds like links04:19
jtgameoverdoes anyone know how to use vnc? when i vnc to another box, all i get is an ugly black-white pixels screen with an "X" cursor and i can't do anything04:19
naliothdabaR: by your definition, ANY app that runs in a terminal or Xserver is 'graphical'04:19
bigfoot1aarcane, somebody in this chatroom recommended dillo to me, that's why i downloaded it.04:19
dabaRsame thing.04:19
Razor-Xbigfoot1: that has nothing to do with it, Kazehakase is not specifically supported04:19
Kikinatoris it possible to access an NTFS partition and the files on it?04:19
naliothbigfoot1: kaze is gecko based04:19
aarcanebigfoot1, it's main purpose is as an emergency tool to go google or forum searching when you can't get things working right04:19
nalioths_dogKikinator: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically04:19
djm62Kikinator: read-only at the moment04:19
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dabaRany app that is object oriented rather than procedural, and makes pictures, yes04:19
bigfoot1nalioth, if kaze is geckobased, then why can't gmail give me the "full-viewing experience"?04:20
Razor-XdabaR: a GUI is something different from a CLI, and there are programs that don't use CLI either04:20
Kikinatorbut can I copy the files from the NTFS partition to the ext2 partition?04:20
Razor-Xbigfoot1: because it's not specifically supported!!!04:20
bigfoot1aarcane, i see. i guess i'll be deleting dillo.04:20
dabaRI mean, I dont know the exact definition, or if it would fit, but, it sure is a gui to me.04:20
naliothbigfoot1: because kaze is made by the inscrutable japanese04:20
MidNightRaVeNhey peeps. What was the program or decoder used to DVDs again?04:20
djm62bigfoot1: it's a choice on their part, not an intrinsic thing04:20
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dabaRKikinator: yes04:20
aarcaneKikinator, you can easily copy files from ntfs --> ext204:20
naliothdabaR: text is graphical04:20
Razor-XdabaR: in an exact definition, curses is a CLI, X is a GUI, and stuff like cat are just terminal apps04:20
adwaitbigfoot1: it may support all the features but Gmail doesnt know it right? the programmers must have hardcoded the specific HTTP_USER_AGENT responses tht gmail likes04:20
bigfoot1Razor-X, but nalioth says all gmail is looking for is a gecokobased browser. i'm confused.04:20
marco_www.yahoo.es04:20
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Razor-Xmarco_: no04:21
bigfoot1adwait, gotcha.04:21
malakhibigfoot1: kaze doesn't report itself as a supported browser in its HTTP header. Therefore, Gmail does not detect it as a supported browser, even though it uses the same engine as a supported browser.04:21
adwaitnow eeven though ur gecko based..they dunno04:21
dabaRwhatever you wanna ccall it.04:21
Kikinatorbecause there is some files on an NTFS parition that I need but I don't know how to copy them to my /home directory04:21
MidNightRaVeNwhat's the decoder used to decode DVDs?04:21
naliothdabaR: when one says 'graphical' re computers, one means with a Xserver or other point-and-click-with-mouse interface04:21
bigfoot1why then was kazehakase a browser that was recommended to me? hmmm.04:21
MidNightRaVeNsomething something css?04:21
dabaRRazor-X: how come you are so exact, where did you get this exact definition?04:21
Razor-XdabaR: just don't call 'emacs' 'vi', or vice versa04:21
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naliothbigfoot1: sue me, i've never used it with gmail04:21
naliothbigfoot1: i use galeon predominantly04:21
bigfoot1nalioth, peace, my friend.04:21
bigfoot1nalioth, okay i'll install that.04:22
bigfoot1too.04:22
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss in backports for one,.04:22
dabaRRazor-X: just dont get too big of a head.04:22
Razor-XdabaR: read works on usability and accessibility04:22
Kikinatoroh, maybe a dumb question but...does ubuntu allow you to emerge kde instead of GNOME?04:22
MidNightRaVeNdabaR: =/ where can i find it? cuz I didn't see it in synaptic?04:22
bigfoot1what's the command line to uninstall dillo?04:22
aarcaneI erm..  get an error from VFS when I try to boot about no ext3 filesystem..  I have a reiserfs /, and don't know how to....  well, I think you know what I'm saying04:22
malakhibigfoot1: you're better off with galeon anyway. kaze has some strange package incompatabilities.04:22
dabaRbackports I said.04:22
djm62bigfoot1: apt-get remove04:22
dabaR!backports04:22
ubotuI heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/04:22
Razor-Xbigfoot1: sudo apt-get remove dillo04:22
poningruyes04:22
p8ntballer100822i must have like 500 apps selected for download04:23
bigfoot1malakhi, okay, i'll remove dillo and kaze. I'm in Japan actually. I wonder if three ar eany bnefeits for using a browser made by japanese people.04:23
dabaRRazor-X: that was not a sentence I can understand. read works on usability...04:23
DonLnalioth, galeon also uses mozilla, doesn't it?04:23
BeatYou!info dillo04:23
ubotudillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB04:23
|QuaD-bigfoot1: use epiphany over galeon04:23
naliothDonL: correct04:23
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bigfoot1epiphany is more feature-packed than galeon?04:23
naliothbigfoot1: no04:23
|QuaD-bigfoot1: quite the opposite04:23
Razor-Xbigfoot1: not really, most bilingual speakers have added language packs to popular browsers04:23
|QuaD-bigfoot1: epiphany is faster and more HIG compliant04:23
ColonelKernelwhy not just use firefox?04:23
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chrissturmepiphany is just much nicer than galeon04:24
bddebianKonqeuror rulZ j00 a1104:24
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naliothColonelKernel: because it is bloated and ponderous04:24
bigfoot1adwait, because as nalioth told me today, fx has memory leaks.04:24
dabaRadwait: I dont like apps that run in windows myself...04:24
djm62adwait: he already said he doesn't want to use firefox04:24
malakhibigfoot1: epiphany is actually pretty weak compared to a gecko based browser at the moment. it won't work with gmail either.04:24
schasielinks04:24
MidNightRaVeNso do i find libdvdcss in the backports??04:24
pink-noobUm... is there anyway to change my GTK1 theme?04:24
qt2anyone?04:24
adwaitdjm62:k04:24
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: yes/.04:24
bigfoot1epiphany isn't a geckobased browser?04:24
bigfoot1i thought it was.04:24
MidNightRaVeNdabaR: k, thx04:24
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dabaRqt2: um, net install?04:24
adwaitbigfoot1: i think the memoryleak thing was fixed.......with ver 1.0.2 itself04:24
Razor-Xadwait: also has the most memory leaks, its bloated, and other flaws04:24
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chrissturmbigfoot1, it is04:25
dabaRbigfoot1: you we4re right04:25
naliothMidNightRaVeN: after you update your apt (after adding the BP lines in your sources.list)04:25
ch_604!info resolution04:25
qt2dabaR, to install something on the same comp?04:25
naliothMidNightRaVeN: you open a term and type "apt-cache search libdvd"04:25
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: does it matter how many sources i have in my source list?04:25
ch_604er04:25
chrissturmgnome needs a good webkit based browser04:25
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naliothMidNightRaVeN: yes and no04:25
dabaRqt2: I havfe debian, windows, and ubuntu on this one04:25
djm62adwait: on the other hand, if it works for you, don't sweat it ;)04:25
bigfoot1malakhi, are you sure epiphany won't work well with gmail?04:25
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adwaitdjm62:  :).....04:26
ThazzaGot a question to ask everyone04:26
naliothch_604: what are you after? its !resolution04:26
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: =/ so basically keep it pretty empty to keep from conflicts from happening?04:26
bddebianThazza: shoot04:26
dabaRThazza: one for each, or one for all?04:26
hoslerVMWARE asks for the kernel headers for my kernel, but I cant download the kernel source from ubuntus file manager. Should I just go to kernel.com and get it there?04:26
malakhibigfoot1: well, that was my fault. i'm on gmail now, and it seems to work ok.04:26
naliothMidNightRaVeN: after you are done getting libdvdcss2, you should comment out the lines with 'backports' in them (with a # at the beginning of the line)04:26
ch_604!resolution04:26
uboturumour has it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:26
bigfoot1malakhi, okay, so just a false alarm. Whew! 8-)04:26
ThazzaI have a couple fo usb external HDD's that are NTFS, was wondering how reliable it would be using Ubuntu on my main machine, when i transfer a lot of data back and forth from the externals!04:26
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: kk04:27
dabaRhosler: i DOnt think so.04:27
ch_604thx naolith04:27
naliothhosler: you need the ubuntu kernel source04:27
djm62hosler: linux-headers is the package you want04:27
qt2blah, screw it, reboot time.04:27
dabaRThazza: no writing to ntfs, no safe at least.04:27
bddebianThazza: reliable meaning what?04:27
naliothThazza: writing to NTFS causes NTFS data loss04:27
dabaRqt2: reboot time>?04:27
djm62Thazza: can you use FAT32?04:27
BeatYouanyone know how to make ssh user accounts for people - with *extremely* limited access04:27
ThazzadabaR, & nalioth  THis is what i thought04:27
qt2dabaR, to install ubuntu.04:27
idunnohi , where can i find packages for gnustep for ubuntu ?04:27
djm62Thazza: it's the lowest common denominator04:27
adwaitBeatYou: doesnt ssh accounts use the system user accounts?04:28
dabaRqt2: then yes.:)04:28
BeatYouadwait: probably, how do i make users then ? via ssh04:28
dabaRBeatYou: just remove the groups from the user, the ones you dont want them to be part of.04:28
djm62BeatYou: how limited? you could create a group with very few privileges04:28
hoslerdjm63: i look and the package manager says they are installed in /usr/include/linux, but vmware doesnt like that location saying its for glibc stuff and not the real headers.04:28
bddebianBeatYou: adduser <username>04:28
qt2dabaR, heh, i dont want to install a boot manager though, that's the problem, since i've already got grub set up via gentoo.04:28
naliothBeatYou: system > admin > users and groups  (and watch the tabs for 'access")04:28
adwaitBeatYou: via ssh........ssh as root and then adduser04:28
BeatYouthans04:28
dabaRBeatYou: you make user either through the system>admin menu or adduser username in a terminal04:28
BeatYouthanks04:28
p8ntballer100822im about to download 470 apps haha04:28
p8ntballer100822w00t!04:29
Thazzadjm62,  Issue with that 4 gig limit on Fat 32. The drivers are 2 * 200 gig and a 160 gb, only one of the 200Gb drives has 2 partitions. They are used to store different data. Sometimes being a 4.7 Gig iso04:29
hoslernalioth: the ubuntu package manager only gives me an option to download 2.4 source, but i need the 2.6 source.04:29
bigfoot1i did: "sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser" but still no epiphany in my menu. What's up?04:29
dabaRp8ntballer100822: and then use them all at the same time>04:29
naliothThazza: you have files over 4gb?04:29
adwaitbigfoot1: try the commandline...04:29
p8ntballer100822yea haha04:29
Thazzanalioth,  DVD images. ;-)04:29
dabaRbigfoot1: it has to be there, gnome? apps>internet.04:29
naliothhosler: ah04:29
p8ntballer100822me and my 100 arms04:29
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djm62Thazza: wow, I didn't realise FAT32 was so limited.04:29
naliothThazza: try qemu04:29
bigfoot1dabar, no it's not in apps>internet, unfortunately.04:29
dabaRweird, mine is:P04:30
dabaRadd it.04:30
qt2dabaR, doesnt ubuntu automatically install a boot manager?04:30
naliothThazza: qemu + samba04:30
naliothqt2: yes04:30
dabaRthere is a add/remove programs..04:30
p8ntballer100822woot !! sweet apps here i come04:30
aukqt2: yes, grub04:30
dabaRqt2:^04:30
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idunnoim sorry i have to rephrase my question.. i know where they are , but how do  i make synaptic or the applicaiton manager find them automatically?04:30
malakhibigfoot1: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser doesn't get it?04:30
mephistoHey group! Totem won't fire up for me when trying to view some streaming media. Where should I look to fix this problem?04:30
dabaRbigfoot1: you can add apps to the menus.04:30
qt2well, is there a way to disable the installing of grub? :P04:30
adwaitbigfoot1: in terminal, try typing ephiphany (or whtever the command is) and if it starts up, u can add it to the app menu04:30
dabaRmephisto: what did it do?04:30
djm62idunno: have you downloaded them manually?04:31
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dabaRepiphany is the command.04:31
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p8ntballer100822i wish i had a laptop :(04:31
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: for the backports, how should the line look? like this:04:31
MidNightRaVeNnalioth:04:31
MidNightRaVeNdeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp?04:31
naliothbigfoot1: it should be in teh app menu already04:31
dabaRqt2: you dont want that, it will make entries to allow other OSs to be loaded.04:31
naliothMidNightRaVeN: don't paste in here04:31
naliothMidNightRaVeN: use #flood or a pastebin04:31
Thazzanalioth, Hmm interesting.. looks like more than i have the time to learn. atm.. I think i will just continue to run, a windows box, and a ubuntu box04:31
enohi, um.... how do I change the settings in gnome so that the active window is the one the mouse is over?  (like the olds days)04:31
dabaRMidNightRaVeN: backports.ubuntuforums.org will tell you exactly.04:31
MidNightRaVeNjust type #flood and what i want to paste?04:31
naliothThazza: both at the same time? different boxes?04:32
djm62eno: that's window manager behaviour04:32
mephistodabaR: "Totem could not start up. Resource busy of not available"04:32
dabaReno there is an option somewhere, Ill get it.04:32
naliothMidNightRaVeN: no, you join the channel #flood04:32
ThazzaAll: I would reformat the drives as ext3 yet then the windows boxs (friends and others) i use them on would not see the data04:32
enothank you.04:32
p8ntballer100822thazza, why dont you dual boot? so you can run windoze and linux04:32
naliothMidNightRaVeN: and then paste in that channel04:32
mephistodabaR:*or*04:32
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: o, kk04:32
djm62are there any other filesystems common to linux and windows?04:32
naliothp8ntballer100822: Thazza needs both OS' at the same time04:32
Thazzanalioth,  Different boxes.. One in office, one in bedroom, for late night research. :-)04:32
naliothdjm62: fat32 is all i know04:32
p8ntballer100822oic04:32
p8ntballer100822hmmm....04:32
naliothThazza: then you should be able to use sambe04:33
dabaRmephisto: likely a sound thing.04:33
naliothsamba04:33
BeatYou!ssh04:33
ubotuhmm... ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"04:33
Razor-Xthe saddest part is, FAT is the skinniest filesystem ;)04:33
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mephistodabaR: like no sound card, no work?04:33
p8ntballer100822yea i havent really been paying attention to these convos04:33
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Thazzanalioth,  Thats what i have been doing.. Yet i would really like to get rid of the windows box.. Totally. :D04:33
Go_pLasticanyone here use cedega?04:33
p8ntballer100822downloading file 18 of 470.....04:33
dabaRtry killall esd and then try the app again, that will kill your sound in other apps for that session, though, unless you type in esd in a terminal and keep it open.04:33
DonLThazza, when I got a separate computer for Linux I was a happy camper.04:33
bddebianThazza: So two Ubuntu boxes and you're there :-)04:34
naliothThazza: 'borrow' a copy of partition magic and convert your drives to ext2/304:34
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enocan I go into the source code?04:34
Thazzabddebian,  Thats what i would like.. I have one current box, and then the windows box in office.. that the USB hdd's are connected to.04:34
bddebianeno: For what?04:34
enoI promise I won't edit it, I just want to see it04:34
p8ntballer100822i have a windows box... but i rarely use it. i dont really need it for anything04:34
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bigfoot1malakhi, it does get the browser, but it does'nt put it into my menu.04:35
dabaReno: System>Prefs>Windows.04:35
bddebianeno: You can edit it, that is what Free Software is al about04:35
bigfoot1oh, wait, sorry. it is in the menu.04:35
enothank you dabaR04:35
Thazzanalioth,  Can't do this to other peoples Drives.. (windows) so then their machines can't see my USB drives04:35
dabaRwelcome04:35
malakhibigfoot1: my misunderstanding.04:35
bigfoot1i just was looking alphabetically.04:35
naliothbigfoot1: if it isnt there nwo, it should show up when you restart your xserver04:35
bigfoot1it is on the top of the list.04:35
BeatYouerrr, anyone know where the advanced config files for ssh users are ? like to lock them in home dir04:35
enoyeah, editing dsomething like that isn't for someone with my programming skil04:35
p8ntballer100822you guys wanna see my sweet ass paint job on my computer thay isnt really that sweet cause i painted it?04:35
hoslerI need the 2.6.10 kernel source but synaptic doesnt have it in its database, where can i get the ubunti 2.6.10 kernel source.04:35
naliothThazza: you are stuck with the windows ball-and-chain04:35
Thazzap8ntballer100822, Well the only reason i have the windows box now, is cause of the NTFS usb drives04:35
Danardjm62: there are no file systems 'common' to linux and windows, but linux can read windows file systems04:35
bddebianhosler: Hoary?04:35
Thazzanalioth, Saddly Yes. :-(04:36
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p8ntballer100822oic04:36
naliothThazza: UNLESS you convert your whole office to ubuntu!04:36
hoslerbddebian: i have all the repositories in allready.04:36
bigfoot1fellow Gmail users: what program do you use to be notified of new email?04:36
enoso do I have to download the sourcecode or is it already on my system?04:36
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dabaRBeatYou: you would prolly change the permissions for folders to sudo chmod -r or -R / o-rwx04:36
dabaRdont do that yet tho.04:36
p8ntballer100822why do you have usb drives?? why not buy internal drives04:36
adwaitBeatYou: read man ssh.......it has all u want i think04:36
Danarbigfoot1: firefox04:36
BeatYoubigfoot1: http://toolbar.google.com/gmail-helper/index?promo=gdl-en04:36
mephistobigootl: gmail notifier or Thunderbird04:36
Thazzanalioth, And my friends. :-) and my works computers.04:36
dabaReno: the source code for waht?04:36
Danarbigfoot1: or thunderbird04:36
naliothp8ntballer100822: for data portability in the office04:36
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enothe whole OS04:37
BeatYouthanks adwait04:37
bddebianhosler: OK but I was asking what you are running.  You aren't on Warty are you?04:37
Thazzap8ntballer100822,  Portable.. Take to work, Friends.04:37
adwaitnp BeatYou04:37
enoI want to take a look around in it04:37
p8ntballer100822oic04:37
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naliothThazza: shipit.ubuntu.com will send you as many disks as you like04:37
djm62Danar: FAT32 is common insofar as both windows and linux can create, read, and write it04:37
naliothThazza: and they are fancy pressed ones, with fancy graphical pacakges04:37
bigfoot1Danar, yes firefox makes an extension, but i just switched from Firefox today.04:37
p8ntballer100822heres the pic of my computer with its crappy custom paint job04:37
hoslerbddebian: I dont know waht warty is, so I dont think so.04:37
p8ntballer100822http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=004:37
Razor-Xnatively, rather04:37
bigfoot1BeatYou, that toolbar is only for windows.04:37
Razor-Xbigfoot1: good job04:37
Danardjm62: no, you can't run linux on fat32, so it's not common. linux can also do ntfs though04:37
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bddebianeno: "the whole OS" is a little misleading. Do you want to look at kernel source or for a particular package?04:37
dabaRBeatYou: well, I would do what I said, and then add a user, see if he can leave his directory, and thats it04:37
delltonyanyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great04:37
Thazzanalioth,  Not my work computrs.. No permission to wipe., and the old windows users would freak. lol04:37
BeatYoubigfoot1... errr sorry04:37
BeatYouhaha04:37
bigfoot1BeatYou, and i don't want to take away more real estate from the browser.04:37
naliothdjm62: but there is a 4gb filesize limit with fat3204:37
Danarbigfoot1: uh, _from_ firefox?04:38
bigfoot1Razor-X, thank you very much!04:38
BeatYoubigfoot1, it is not a toolbar04:38
Danarbigfoot1: to what?04:38
BeatYouit runs in sysmte tray04:38
tyashi04:38
Go_pLasticanyone here use cedega?04:38
naliothThazza: www.xpde.org04:38
BeatYoubut i forgot this is #ubuntu04:38
tyashi04:38
tyashi04:38
tyashi04:38
tyashi04:38
Danarbigfoot1: and why?04:38
bigfoot1Danar, well, to epiphany and to galeon04:38
Thazzanalioth, Also i am waiting for the 30 cd's i ordered about 1 month ago.04:38
Razor-XGo_pLastic: not many do04:38
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p8ntballer100822i know you guys are jelous of my sweet computer with awsome paintjob "sarcasm"04:38
p8ntballer100822http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=004:38
enobddebian: sorry... I am not entirely sure... I just thought it would be cool to take a look04:38
bigfoot1danar, i switched from fx because nalioth told me of the memory leaks.04:38
Go_pLasticRazor-X, do you?04:38
naliothThazza: ah, well, when they arrive, have fun converting folks04:38
djm62Danar: I have ran linux on fat32304:38
Razor-XGo_pLastic: nopes04:38
Danarbigfoot1: i have never had a problem with it04:38
bigfoot1fx makes my pc run slow after a while. I would have to restart it every so many hours.04:38
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Razor-Xdjm62: UMSDOS, IIRC04:39
Danarbigfoot1: i leave firefox running for days at a time, sometimes. no probs04:39
Go_pLasticRazor-X, cool thanks04:39
naliothDanar: how much  ram is on your system?04:39
Danarnalioth: 51204:39
djm62Razor-X: dat de one, useful for usb-stick boots04:39
adwaitsame here04:39
bigfoot1i have 256 ram on mine.04:39
Razor-Xsame here04:39
bddebianhosler: From a terminal try this: "apt-cache dump |grep kernel-tree-2.6"04:39
enowhat is the point of the camou computer by the way?  why do people do that?  I would paint mine to be a monkey04:39
naliothDanar: bigfoot1: if your puters are much differnt, they will act differently04:39
adwaitbigfoot1: which version of ff did u havee?04:39
Razor-Xeno: dunno, whatever floats someone's boat04:39
bigfoot1so let me ask again: Gmail users, what do you use for new mail notification?04:39
Thazzanalioth, LOL.. also that link is dead.. well in german. lol04:39
dabaReno: some people play those war ganmes, and think war is cool, dunno.04:39
bigfoot1adwait, um, how do i check version of fx?04:40
naliothThazza: crap, i cant remember if its com or org04:40
Danardjm62: fat32 doesn't support permissions and things necessary for linux. i call bs. you used a VM or something?04:40
dabaRbigfoot1: a browser. personally.04:40
enoyeah I guess04:40
adwaitbigfoot1: in ff, Help>About04:40
hoslerbddebian: I did that and didnt get any output response.04:40
naliothThazza: it's a dead-ringer copy of XP linux desktop mangler04:40
bddebianhosler: Sorry, that should be "kernel-source-2.6"04:40
hoslerok04:40
naliothThazza: xpde04:40
djm62Danar: it's kind of rude to "call bs".  google umsdos04:40
Razor-Xhmmm..04:40
Thazzanalioth, .com works better04:40
djm62Danar: and this is #ubuntu, keep the attitude calm :)04:40
BeatYoubigfoot1: you can setup gmail in a pop3 client, thunderbird for example04:40
p8ntballer100822anybody need a gmail invite... lol04:40
adwait!info mozilla-firefox hoary04:40
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB04:40
naliothThazza: i am somwhat frazzled atm04:40
BeatYoup8ntballer100822, no thanks, i think 50 is enough for me04:40
Danardjm62: not rude at all. didn't sound 'coshure' to me, so i called you on it.04:41
bigfoot1adwait, i use version 1.0.204:41
hoslerbddebian: Package: kernel-source-2.6.104:41
hoslerPackage: kernel-source-2.6.904:41
hosler  Depends: kernel-source-2.6.9 (null)04:41
hosler  Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)04:41
hosler  Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)04:41
hosler  Depends: kernel-source-2.6.1 (null)04:41
Danardjm62: no attitude04:41
p8ntballer100822oh ok04:41
dabaRhow is it optional?04:41
hoslerPackage: kernel-source-2.604:41
Razor-Xsupport in this channel takes a lot out of you04:41
hosler  Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)04:41
hosleroops04:41
Thazzanalioth,  Needing sleep?04:41
bddebianhosler: Please don't post in here :-)04:41
naliothhosler: please dont flood04:41
bigfoot1BeatYou, but i'd rather use the web version of gmail.04:41
Razor-Xhosler: please do not paste more than 3 lines of output in this channel04:41
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Thazzanalioth,  Or just a trip away.04:41
adwaitbigfoot1: hmm....well i though the mem leak was fixed by that time......<frowns>04:41
hoslerdidnt mean to04:41
bddebians/post/flood :-)04:41
naliothThazza: i've been in #ubuntu for many hours this week04:41
Razor-Xbddebian: perl or vi? or both? ;)04:41
bigfoot1BeatYou, are there any benefits of downloading one's gmail onto one's pc, rather than reading/writing on gmail.com+04:41
bigfoot1?04:41
djm62Danar: well, I'm sure you've googled it now.  for any purpose I can think of FAT32 is common to both, but sadly crippled :-/04:41
BeatYoubigfoot1, not to me, i use the browser version as well04:42
bddebianRazor-X: Neither :-)04:42
Razor-Xdjm62: it's a tad bit worse than ext204:42
Danardjm62: yep. clever hack.04:42
bigfoot1BeatYou, so what do you use to be notified of new email?04:42
Razor-Xbddebian: then why the stereotypical usage of vi/perl regular expressions?04:42
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Thazzanalioth,  That XP clone looks good.. now if i could just work out how to run MYOB on linux.. and i could convert someone else i know.04:42
djm62Razor-X: that's why I don't use it ;)04:42
naliothbigfoot1: are you on broadband?04:42
bigfoot1what does any gmail user in this chatroom use to be notified of new email in their gmail acconut?04:42
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MidNightRaVeNdude... i can't get the backports to work... i can't get it to reload cuz i keep getting an error that it couldn't download the repository...04:42
bigfoot1nalioth, yes, i a m.04:42
p8ntballer100822Download file 63 of 470......04:42
naliothThazza: wine, or cedega04:42
BeatYoubigfoot1, i only run ubuntu for server, i run everything else (including gmail notifier) in windows04:42
bddebianRazor-X: Oh, that.. That's hangovers from the antiquated vi days.. :-)04:42
naliothMidNightRaVeN: join ##apple04:42
bigfoot1BeatYou, windows OS?04:42
Razor-Xbddebian: as I thought ;)04:43
egaoooo04:43
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: what's there?04:43
Razor-Xi'm an emacs user, no s/'s for me ;)04:43
bddebianheh04:43
BeatYoubigfoot1: XP ?04:43
naliothbigfoot1: then it matters only to you whether you d/l your gmail or use the browser04:43
shuziokaehi04:43
Thazzanalioth,  Good idea.. except the cost.. lol.. Commerial Business. will research and try at home.04:43
naliothMidNightRaVeN: YOU will be04:43
djm62wow, I thought it was an ed-ism04:43
bddebianHello shuziokae04:43
bigfoot1nalioth,  i don't understand.04:43
naliothThazza: site license04:43
MidNightRaVeNnalioth: i know... but why would i want to be there?04:43
dabaRcause he called you./04:44
naliothbigfoot1: if you're on dialup, you might wish to d/l your gmail to a local mail client, so u didnt have to dial up each time to check04:44
p8ntballer100822i just use the gmail website to view my mail, i setup evolution and i dont like the interface04:44
DanarThazza: cost of what?04:44
naliothMidNightRaVeN: for HELP, maybe?04:44
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bddebianhosler: Are you sure you aren't running Warty?04:44
hoslerwhat is a sure way to check?04:44
paul_does ubuntu support pci-express graphics cards? ati04:44
dabaRtell him how to check.04:44
ThazzaDanar,  Wine to run MYIOB premier on a 6 machine network.04:44
p8ntballer100822who here watches aots on g4tv????04:44
bigfoot1here's my problem: i want to be notified of new gmail, and i do know that there's an applet for the panel. I think it's called new-mail-notification, but after google changed the url, it doesn't work anymore, that's why I'm asking any gmail user here what they use to be notified of new gmail. is there another applet made by ubuntu, gnome, or gtk, or some linux person that does this job?04:45
bddebiandabaR: I don't know in Ubuntu :-)  I used to just cat /etc/debian_version :-)04:45
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DanarThazza: then i take it you don't mean cost as in money04:45
dabaRhosler: same, anyhow, in gnome, System>About ubuntu04:45
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dabaRbddebian: same, hosler: in gnome...04:45
p8ntballer100822brb04:45
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Danarbigfoot1: the url isn't configurable?04:45
bddebiandabaR: Breezy is 3.1?04:45
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hoslerbddebian: im running the Hoary Hedgehog release04:46
ThazzaDanar,  Well accually i was talking about the cost of money... They are very tight people when it comes to cost. lol.  Should have been how hard it was to convice them to purchase legal copies.04:46
whyameyeI'm trying to use Kino with my firewire videocamera. I can't seem to capture the video. I get from Kino: "WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1...04:46
rahmathiiii04:46
DanarThazza: uh, wine is free04:46
p8ntballer100822back04:46
bigfoot1danar, well, new-mail-notification applet has a special section just for gmail users. danar, could you try it on your system?04:46
bddebianhosler: That is strange, you should at least have 2.6.1004:46
Danarbigfoot1: not on gnome04:46
dabaRor even, alt+ctrl+f5 will tell you which version you have04:46
bddebianhosler: If you do "uname -i" what kernel version are you running currently?04:46
enoDoes anyone dare me to delete vmlinuz?04:47
ThazzaDanar,  Really?? Where? Last i heard it was a charge,.. Bugger you mean i have been looking at wrong place.04:47
bigfoot1i'm on gnome, danar, are you saying new-mail-notification (NMN) won't work in gnome?04:47
DanarThazza: uh, try apt-get install wine04:47
bddebianeno: Sure, go ahead :-)04:47
dabaReno: I dont.04:47
p8ntballer100822what is this "new mail notification applet" is this for windows  of linux????04:47
Danarbigfoot1: _i'm_ not on gnome04:47
bddebianeno: Or better yet "rm -rf /"04:47
Danarbigfoot1: i'm not even on ubuntu04:47
enowhat does rm -rf do?04:47
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bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, for linux04:47
naliothThazza: cedega-cvs is free04:47
hoslerbddebian: 2.6.10-5-38604:47
enodo I need the "/"?04:47
naliothThazza: i'd pay for it, tho for the support04:48
Danareno: heh. i hope you're joking04:48
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: where can i download it04:48
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, what do you mean "windows _of_ linux"? did you mean "or"04:48
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enoyes... you called my bluff04:48
AerebusWhats the mp3 player of choice around here?04:48
bddebianhosler: Then you have to be able to get the source.04:48
ThazzaDanar,  www.winehq.com ? Oh bugger i have been as well.04:48
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: i meant or04:48
Danareno: :)04:48
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hoslerbddebian: I looked all over synaptic. Can i get it off of the ubuntu website?04:48
ThazzaDanar,  Will take a look later.. about to go out for pool, and drinks with a mate04:48
bddebianeno: rm is remove -r means recursive, -f means force. / means from the root directory :-)04:48
seth_kAerebus: for Gnome, muine or rhythmbox. for KDE, Amarok. Those are all iTunes-like. For either, beep-media-player (Winamp clone)04:48
whyameyeanybody out there using a videocamera with firewire on ubuntu?04:48
Razor-Xhosler: what're you looking for?04:48
bddebianhosler: Have you done an update?04:49
dabaRrm is delete, -r means recursive, so delete any subfolders and everything, -f forces deletion of read only and protected files, / is your root. So, in translation, you would force recursive delete of anything under root.04:49
Razor-Xbddebian: also known as the 'noob virus'04:49
DanarThazza: try "apt-get install wine" for wine. there's also cedega, which is not free, but the source is available for you to compile yourself. google cvscedega for that04:49
adwaithey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies?04:49
bddebianRazor-X: Hehe04:49
Thazzanalioth,  Will look at that one later.04:49
hoslerRazor-x: the 2.6 kernel source04:49
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: so its for linux... can you give me the link to download04:49
hoslerbddebian: yeah04:49
dabaRfyou bddebian :)04:49
ThazzaDanar, & nalioth04:49
AerebusSeth_K, i heard about xmms from a guy at work is that one no good?04:49
Razor-Xhosler: it should be there04:49
dabaRI wrote the whole thing for nothing.04:49
hoslerok04:49
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, hold on, please. i'm searching. i forgot.04:49
adwaithey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies?04:49
ThazzaDanar, & nalioth : Grr.. Sorry.. Was going to say.. Thanks guys.. :D04:49
seth_kAerebus: beep-media-player is an updated xmms, and is better04:49
djm62Aerebus: xmms is getting outdated04:49
dabaRI mean, not f you in a bad way, just I wish you a good night, with girls...04:49
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bddebiandabaR: ??04:49
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: ok04:49
sunrexhow do i get my CD to play...04:49
enobddebian: would that actually remove my root directory?  that doesn't sound like it should be possible04:50
bddebiandabaR: :-)04:50
p8ntballer100822xmms looks and feals alot like winamp if you are familiar04:50
naliothAerebus: they are all FREE, try them all, and keep what you like04:50
DanarThazza: np :)04:50
enowhat if some bastard hacker did it to me :S04:50
dabaRit would delete everything on your system04:50
bddebianeno: That would pretty much remove everything on your diesk04:50
bddebiandisk even04:50
dabaRha, this time I beat you.04:50
DanarThazza: just remember cvscedega. cedega is better for games04:50
adwaithehe04:50
naliotheno: make sure you know what you are putting "sudo" in front of04:50
p8ntballer100822Downloading file 105 of 47004:50
enoso would the system still boot or just go to grub?04:50
sunrexno sound....no cd working...how do i fix this04:50
naliotheno: cuz one press of the <enter> can wipe your system04:50
DanarThazza: wine is better for general apps04:51
enonalioth: :P04:51
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dabaRit would not boot.04:51
bigfoot1one thing i liked about fx was the quick search in url bar. For example, if i typed "g ubuntu", it does a search in google.com for ubuntu. i wonder if we can get this feauture onto epihpany or galeon04:51
ThazzaDanar, tar.. not that the office running myob will need to play games. so wine is probaly better04:51
ubuntu_hello people!04:51
djm62being in this room makes me think that a shop offering free everything would last a long time before running out04:51
DanarThazza: doesn't hurt to get both04:51
dabaRwell, if you had another partition, that was not mounted when you rm, and has an os there, I think it would even boot.04:51
dabaRubuntu_: yo!04:51
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dabaRdjm62: your logic is flawwed:)04:52
DanarThazza: there's a script out there to download, compile & install cvscedega for you. look for that if you get it. wine should be in the repository04:52
naliothbigfoot1: galeon has that04:52
dabaRDanar: he is gone04:52
bigfoot1nalioth, thanks.04:52
ubuntu_I am new to ubuntu, don't ignore me please!04:52
Danaroops04:52
bigfoot1ubuntu_ hello.04:52
dabaRubuntu_: I said yo!04:52
naliothubuntu_: how may we help you?04:52
ubuntu_ok04:53
mephistoI'm super green with linux/ubuntu. how do install software that I download?04:53
Danarubuntu_: you haven't said much :p04:53
dabaRhow may we assist you on this fine day.04:53
ubuntu_don't really need help, just excited :)04:53
djm62dabaR: I was joking...but I bet people's natural suspicion would really come into play04:53
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dabaRmephisto: you should install using apt-get not download...04:53
djm62ubuntu_: welcome :)04:53
Danarmephisto: easiest way to install software is via synaptic04:53
dabaRdjm62: ah, yes, tru.04:53
Danarmephisto: or in the terminal with apt-get04:53
rahmathello04:53
naliothmephisto: you should use synaptic for installing04:53
dabaRor synaptic, yes, better for new users.04:53
ubuntu_i have being using mandrake, it works great for me. I am runing live ubuntu right now.04:53
rahmat] p;04:54
mephistoso I could do sudo apt-get, for example?04:54
dabaRhey rahmat .04:54
bddebianapt-get ROCKS04:54
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mephistowhy synaptic over apt-get?04:54
Danarmephisto: yes04:54
bddebianHello rahmat04:54
nalioths_dogmephisto: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:54
rahmathiii04:54
djm62mephisto: nicer interface04:54
nalioths_dogmephisto: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:54
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IceDC571i like aptitude myself04:54
dabaRmephisto: synaptic is a GUI program,04:54
naliothmephisto: synaptic is a frontend for apt-get04:54
Danarmephisto: it provides a graphical interface and automation for apt-get04:54
ArroganceI'm getting MD5sum mistaches in 11 files when dist-upgrade Hoary.  Is this a general issue or just me?04:54
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rahmatbddebian?04:54
bddebianrahmat: Just saying hello04:54
enohow can I switch to /proc/cpuinfo?04:54
djm62mephisto: if somebody tells you an apt-get command, you can mentally convert it into synaptic clicks04:54
Razor-Xok, i'm off to try and install emms04:54
enoI want to see it!04:55
bddebianeno: Switch to?04:55
whyameyeno one out there knows anything about 1394 with ubuntu, huh?04:55
rahmatoooo04:55
enowith cd!04:55
hajikimy laptop keeps turning off the screen every few minutes (im on battery) how can i turn that feature off? (i've already disabled it from the screensaver applet)04:55
bddebianeno: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"04:55
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adwaithow do i search for a song in beep-media-player?04:55
ubuntu_with dvd04:55
dabaRArrogance: I think you have us. in front of packages.ubuntu.com or whatever it is in sources.list04:55
hoslerAnyone here use winetools?04:55
ArrogancedabaR, yes04:55
dabaRremove, try again.04:55
Arrogancethat's bad?04:55
AerebusSeth_K, do i need to make a directory for rhythmbox? or will it make its own? i've never installed software in linuxbefore04:55
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Arroganceok04:55
dabaRok.04:55
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, found it. it's called mail-notification. it's in the repository.04:55
dabaRAerebus: it will do its thing.04:55
enothanks again bddebian04:55
seth_kAerebus: just go to Synaptic and search for it04:55
djm62Aerebus: rhythmbox will take care of itself04:55
adwaitsomebody?anybody? how do i search a song in beep-media-player?04:56
seth_kAerebus: it'll do everything by itself04:56
Go_pLasticmy oss and asla sound fails in p2p but it works in beep mp, im not too good with alsa so im not sure what i can do04:56
dabaRall software goes in the same folder in linux, some part of it in one o\folder, other parts in other folders,04:56
Go_pLastici have a creative live! ls04:56
mephistogonna try this stuff out.......will keep ya'll posted: djm62, Danar, nalioth, dabaR, nalioths_dog04:56
enobddebian: that's rules!04:56
bddebianeno: NP04:56
Go_pLasticadwait, j04:56
bddebianadwait: Dunno sorry04:56
dabaRadwait: how do you search for it...04:56
Go_pLasticadwait, j is the hotkey j=jimp04:56
Danarmephisto: poke around the ubuntu sites. lots of useful info there04:56
Go_pLasticadwait, jump lol04:56
adwaitthx04:56
adwait:)04:56
Go_pLasticnp04:56
Go_pLastic:P04:56
AerebusSeth, its not in Synaptic04:56
hoslerWhen I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this?04:56
naliothshit04:57
ArrogancedabaR, that fixed it.  Thanks04:57
bigfoot1eno, what are you talking about "just rules"?04:57
dabaRwelcome.04:57
bddebianhosler: Did you find the source?04:57
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bddebiannalioth: Not here man04:57
enothe cpu info thing is great04:57
enoIt is exciting04:57
hoslerbddebian: nope :(04:57
dabaRyes, very exciting04:57
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: thanks :)04:57
DonLThanks for the heads up on beep. Downloading it now.04:57
DonLNight for now04:57
hajikihow do i disable m screen from turning off every few minutes04:57
naliothbddebian: was tryin to catch mephisto to warn against the 'guide04:57
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mephisto6Danar: working on it....................04:57
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, then after installing, it's at menu-->system-->preferences-->mail notification.04:58
dabaRhajiki: why, like a screen saver thing?04:58
AerebusSeth_K, ok i clicked on search and found the file, what button do i press next?04:58
naliothmephisto6: you still here?04:58
bddebiannalioth: Ahh04:58
hajikidabaR, my screen keeps going blank, i turned off apm from the screen saver applet but it still keeps turning off04:58
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seth_kAerebus: check its box, then hit apply04:58
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p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: where is it... you mean synaptic pakage manager.... right?04:58
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bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, yes04:59
dabaRapm=power management?04:59
bddebianHeya seth_k04:59
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822,do a search for "mail-notification"04:59
seth_khiya bddebian04:59
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: ok ill install it later im downloading a bunch of stuff there now04:59
djm62dabaR: acpi is more common these days04:59
seth_kbddebian: whatcha doing to get ready for next cc meeting?04:59
hajikimy laptop does not have apm, it's acpi04:59
dabaRhajiki: are you using gnome?04:59
bddebianseth_k: I took a shower.. ;-P04:59
djm62dabaR: but apm is power management too04:59
hajikiyes i'm using gnome05:00
dabaRhe said apm/05:00
seth_k:D05:00
dougskhajiki, take a look at zxcreensaver-demo and see if your setting the screen to blank System->preferences->Screensaver05:00
dabaRthen, you tried in the System>prefs>Screen saver window?05:00
Go_pLasticwhere is the alsa config file?05:00
hoslerWhen I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this?05:00
seth_kthat is an important step bddebian05:00
AerebusSeth_K, i dont think were on the same page sorry, i downloaded the sources from the website http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/download.html now i opened synaptic and clicked on search and it found rhythmbox-0.8.8.tar.gz what do i need to do?05:00
bddebianseth_k: Well I've been trying to help in here, though I'm not sure I am helping any. :-)  I also packaged python-pyrtf but I am getting some weird lintian error05:01
bigfoot1galeon users: how can we put two toolbars onto the same horizontal area?05:01
naliothseth_k: yes, to keep the other cc members from falling off their stools05:01
seth_knalioth: indeed05:01
Go_pLasticwhere is the alsa config file?05:01
seth_kAerebus: you don't need to download anything manually05:01
seth_kAerebus: synaptic will do it all for you, just check the box for rhythmbox and hit apply05:01
bddebianYou two wouldn't think that was funny if you could smell my feet right now.. ;-P05:01
regeyagah.  okay, no lectures about mp3s, please; in rhythmbox, I'm having artists and albums show up, but tracks never show up in the playlist, and rhythmbox is unable to play the mp3s.  gstreamer-mad is installed, and totem is able to play mp3s...hm...wait...05:01
dabaRbah05:01
AerebusWhere is it at?05:01
naliothbddebian: please be civil05:01
bddebianSorry05:01
seth_kregeya: libmad005:02
regeyaam I thinking right that totem should be able to read tags, even on evil ol' mp3s...05:02
bddebiandabaR: Did you get that /msg?05:02
adwaitGo_pLastic: i dunno.......but maybe try /etc/alsa/05:02
regeyahm.05:02
regeyaseth_k05:02
dabaRbddebian: irssi, dont know how to see.05:02
dabaRIll try. brb05:02
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bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, by the way it's in universe repository.05:02
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djm62Aerebus: it should appear in your menu05:02
p8ntballer100822bah..... downloading file 173 of 470 cant wait until everything is installed and downloading05:02
hajikidougsk, i had not seen that option before (guess i'm blind). thank you05:02
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: ok05:02
dabaRbddebian: what are you talking about?05:02
kaputwhat's the best way to contact backport maintainers?05:02
naliothdabaR: on your blue bar at the bottom you should see some numbers on the right side05:02
p8ntballer100822downloaded*05:03
dougskhajiki, no worries, at least it's simple enough I can help05:03
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, done?05:03
dabaRkaput: ubuntuforums05:03
bddebiandabaR: I sent you a private /msg05:03
dabaRbddebian: yes, I read it.05:03
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, all right!05:03
dabaRplease repeat it here in the channel.05:03
bddebiandabaR: Oh05:03
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regeyaseth_k: right, that would be /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.105:03
adwaitregeya: try gstreamer-properties05:03
bddebiandabaR: It is not for all eyes :-)05:03
kaputdabaR: i figured so...i tried reporting a bug there, but can't seem to get a response...05:03
linuxpoetIs there any Vampire packages out there in the Ubuntu-verse?05:03
dabaRbddebian: then it is a lie.:)05:03
adwaitregeya: set it to use ALSA/ESD05:03
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: done...? with what?05:03
bddebiandabaR: Bah05:03
bigfoot1p8ntballer100822, you said "downloaded"05:03
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regeyaset for alsa05:04
naliothbddebian: wow are you lying?05:04
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dabaRkaput: a contact us link on backports.ubuntuforums.org?05:04
adwaitregeya: any luck now?05:04
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kaputdabaR: looked for one, but maybe i overlooked it...i'll try again...just a sec05:04
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: i said cant wait until<< it is downloaded05:04
AerebusSeth_K ok i found it ;p it has a green square next to it, when i click on that square the only options it pops up are mark for reinstallation, mark for removal, mark for complete removal05:04
naliothbddebian: what are you lying about?05:04
seth_kAerebus: then it's already installed05:04
dabaRnalioth: his /msg was: you seem to be helping a lot in the channel, are you interested in joining the ubuntu helper community...:-/05:04
seth_kAerebus: it's in your applications menu > multimedia > music player05:04
Aerebusits not under applications?05:05
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naliothdabaR: so are you?05:05
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: im talking about all the files that i got from the universe though, not the mail notifer05:05
adwaitseth_k same thing05:05
dabaRAerebus: it is isntalled with ubuntu05:05
dabaRrhytmbox is.05:05
regeyaadwait...let me try again...gstreamer seems to be able to play mp3s.  the artists and albums show up in rhythmbox.  I can play the mp3s in totem.  but they never show up in the playlist in rhythmbox when I import 'em and rhythmbox bravely refuses to play them.  but it seems to be the only app so affected.05:05
adwaitAerebus: : same thing05:05
p8ntballer100822bigfoot1: i am going to download that later05:05
bddebianBah, I need a smoke05:05
dabaRnalioth: what, so he is not just talking nonsense?05:05
hoslerhas anyone gotten visual studio 6.0 to work with wine yet?05:05
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p8ntballer100822hey everybody im leaving.....05:05
p8ntballer100822ttyl05:05
seth_kadwait: sorry :/05:05
dabaRsee ya05:05
p8ntballer100822BYE!05:06
bddebianDo I seem unreliable or something? :-)05:06
dabaRbrb05:06
bddebianGnight dabaR05:06
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kaputdabaR: k...found a mailto: ... thanks. :)05:06
regeyaok05:06
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adwaitregeya: i believe totem doesnt use gstreamer.......so the prob should be in gstreamer, try setting gstreamer to use ESD/ALSA/OSS with gstreamer-properties and one of them should work05:06
regeyabye05:06
regeyasee ya05:06
regeyahasta05:06
AerebusSeth_K "no plugin installed to handle a mp305:06
hajikiaifweidersein05:06
squinnFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/powermanagement-interface/powermanagement-interface_0.3.2_i386.deb  Connection failed05:06
squinnhere we go again05:06
hajikior something05:06
seth_kAerebus: gstreamer0.8-mad i think05:06
regeya!05:06
uboturegeya: I don't know, could you explain it?05:06
mephisto6nalioth: still here. did the apt-get from ubuntu wiki. went well. have to check on installed repositories05:06
regeya...05:06
Aerebus?05:06
dabaRsquinn: remove us.05:07
Lordi have only used linux for a short time but am thinking of going to Ubuntu... is it easy for a new user?05:07
BeatYouerr how do i view a README.gz - comes up scrambled in nano05:07
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seth_kLord: Ubuntu is quite easy05:07
NefarousIs there a preferred way to tune which services get started at boot? (i.e. I see messages for LVM and Raid that I assume I don't need)05:07
adwaitLord: yes05:07
LordTY05:07
dabaRAerebus: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*05:07
dabaRand enable universe first05:07
naliothmephisto6: yes, stay away from ubuntuguide (not all ubuntu sites are friendly)05:07
seth_kBeatYou: zcat Readme.gz | less05:07
dabaR!repositories05:07
ubotu[repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:07
squinndabaR, I know what to do. It's just an "uhhhh..."05:07
dabaRthat page will tell you how.05:07
BeatYouseth_k thanks05:07
BeefTubeSuccess!! ubuntu works on my big fat 64bit system now 8)05:07
BeefTubeis there ati drivers automaticaly installed with AMD64 hoary?05:08
dabaRsquinn: ah.05:08
squinndabaR, I'm just copying and pasting.05:08
djm62Lord: this isn't a very neutral room to ask ;) but ubuntu is great05:08
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AerebusSeth, do i need to relogin to X?05:08
adwaithehe05:08
regeyadid hoary switch to totem-xine by default, or is adwait wrong?05:08
pink-noobHi! :D Is there any way to change the GTK1 theme?05:09
hajiki!wireless05:09
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:09
mephisto6nalioth: noted......05:09
LordThank you... tried Xandros and like it... but have heard about Ubuntu and want to try it.05:09
adwaitregeya: hmm....no answer, but in all likelyhood i might be wrong :)05:09
bigfoot1hey guys, ubuntu repository has only version 1.01 of mail-notification, but there is a more recent version at http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mail-notification.html. How do i download this updated version. THank you for helping a newbie!05:10
NefarousJust got my wireless card working, WG511 ... using ndiswrapper ... didn't have to compile any source either, used the drivers off the CD that came with the card <nifty>05:10
adwait!info totem hoary05:10
djm62Lord: will cost you pennies, and the community is generally good05:10
ubotutotem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB05:10
cccLord: i've tried a bunch too... ubuntu is the best i've seen so far.05:10
Lordi see it is certainly very active :-)05:10
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djm62bigfoot1: while you can get the latest version, there are significant advantages to sticking to standard packages05:10
dabaRbigfoot1: I would go with the older version, why do you need the new one? try the older one first.05:10
x55i hate to simply throw a question in here, but could someone direct me to a good thread on enablind dual monitor on a radeon series card?05:10
dabaR!nvidia05:11
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:11
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regeyaadwait: I remember in warty ubuntu-desktop depended on totem-gstreamer.  looks like they have a proper dummy package now.  good.05:11
bigfoot1dabaR, i'm hoping the newer versions will allow me to check my gmail account.05:11
dabaRx55: try that url05:11
x55it saddens me so to see a blank monitor staring at me on my desk05:11
dabaRbigfoot1: the old one does not?05:11
x55thank you05:11
bigfoot1dabaR, well it crashes on me  when i set up gmail on it.05:11
dabaRwelcome05:11
mephisto6nalioth: here's how I ended after apt-get: Fetched 3226kB in 27s (119kB/s)Reading package lists... Done. How do I find this stuff?05:12
bigfoot1dabaR, are you a gmailer yourself?05:12
dabaRbigfoot1: did you notice how nice gnmail is to tell you in the tab, and title bar if new messages are there?05:12
naliothmephisto6: use synaptic05:12
dabaRmephisto6: what did you install?05:12
bigfoot1dabaR, yes, but i want an audible thing, if possible, or something that will pop up05:12
adwaitregeya: so any luck with rhythmbox?05:12
regeyanot really, no. :-}05:13
x55so how long has the ubuntu project been running now?05:13
dabaRbigfoot1: ya, I know what you mean, dunno, sorry.05:13
naliothdabaR: have you seen your PM(s)?05:13
dabaRsince 4/10, I mean, that was the first releast.05:13
bigfoot1dabaR, are you a gmail user?05:13
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bigfoot1nalioth, are you a gmail user?05:13
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dabaRplease speak with me in the channel05:13
adwaithey IceDC57105:13
regeyaI wonder if rhythmbox is barfing on a bad id3 tag or something05:13
dabaRyes, I am.05:13
bddebianHoly crap, it's 11:15pm already.. :-(05:13
IceDC571_adwait: hey05:13
dabaRto you.05:13
IceDC571_wiat a minute05:13
naliothx55: there is lots of info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com05:13
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IceDC571so there i am05:14
IceDC571i found the window :)05:14
IceDC571lol05:14
adwaitlol05:14
overturecan anyone help me setup an rsync server?05:14
dabaRwhat is it nalioth, there is really a helper community?05:14
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AerebusSeth_K, i'm still getting there is no codec installed to handle a mp3 file05:14
redxhas anyone else had problems getting the password function in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:14
dabaRAerebus: one more time.05:14
naliothdabaR: visit the page, please05:14
x55so i'm fresh out of windows, still wiping off the linux amniotic fluid, hehehe05:15
redxto work?05:15
mephisto6nalioth: dabaR: hold on, just found synaptic and am reloading......05:15
dabaRAerebus: enable universe.05:15
dabaR!repositories05:15
uboturepositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:15
Lordx55 me too05:15
naliothx55 welcome to freedom05:15
dabaRthat url will etll you.05:15
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adwaitcya ppl05:15
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Aerebusdabar, i'm sorry i dont know what you mean05:15
bddebianLater adwait05:15
x55i must say, i'm very impressed with the ubuntu community05:15
naliothLord: you have escaped to freedom, also05:15
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x55very exoteric05:15
bddebianx55: Nice of you to say05:15
dabaRthen, after that, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*05:15
dabaRAerebus: follow the instructions.05:16
djm62x55: not to mention attractive :D05:16
Lordyes....less crashing about...:-)05:16
x55hehehe, agreed05:16
dabaRenable universe using the URL ubotu gave you, then use that apt-get command to install codecs05:16
bigfoot1does galeon do mouse gestures?05:16
dabaRAerebus: as well.05:16
dabaR!restrictedformats05:16
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs05:16
redxhas anyone gotten the password function to work in /boot/grub/menu.lst?05:16
dabaRread that page.05:16
x55think it would be beneficial to pick up a Linux for Dummies book?05:16
zenroxx55,  any linux book05:17
dabaRtldp.org too05:17
Razor-Xanyone here use erc?05:17
regeyawheeeeee05:17
IceDC571hmm... you should read about linux online05:17
bddebianRazor-X: Not if we can help it :-)05:17
dabaRdoes anyone in here use IRC? hehe05:17
naliothx55: you can start with www.tldp.org as dabaR mentioned05:17
IceDC571haha windows for dummies05:17
Razor-Xbddebian: fine, stupid vi man ;)05:18
bddebianheh05:18
bigfoot1can i have galeon remember the usernames and passwords i enter in websites?05:18
mephisto6x55: I got Linux 8in1 desk reference  For Dummies...05:18
IceDC571bigfoot1: you use galeon? how do you like it?05:18
x55*sigh*  quitting windows AND smoking in the same week, what a trip, hahaha05:18
bigfoot1IceDC571, i'm on my first hour.05:18
dabaRok, nalioth, top secret, making me /part again...05:18
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djm62x55: if there are magazines in your area, they can be informative and entertaining05:18
Razor-Xx55: the latter should be harder than the former05:18
IceDC571bigfoot1: can it play embedded media in webpages?05:18
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sunrexhow do i get my sound to work !?!05:19
bddebianx55: You are a bigger person than I.. :-)05:19
naliothsunrex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:19
TraceHello, My sound card seems be driven successfully because teamspeak showes it is ok, but i can not hear any sound!!05:19
bddebianDarn you..05:19
bigfoot1IceDC571, give me an example webpage that hase embedded media so that i could find out, please.05:19
Tracei am sure it is not muted.05:19
redxI've tried just "Password something" at the start of /boot/grub/menu.lst which is what the websites all told me to do, as well as the examples actually in it... what am I doing wrong?05:19
bigfoot1IceDC571, what browser do you use?05:19
Tracehow can i check it?05:19
x55hehehe, well, i haven't entirely quit the smoking, i'm weening myself off05:19
dabaRsure, Ill join that.05:19
x55down to one a day, two evil addictions05:20
bigfoot1how can i have galeon block ads?05:20
x55haha05:20
Aerebusdabar, can you plz join #flood?05:20
Danarx55: might i ask why you're impressed? anything in particular?05:20
Razor-Xgah05:20
dabaRyes05:20
naliothbigfoot1: google "adblock hosts"05:20
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x55with the community?05:20
IceDC571bigfoot1: firefox.. i dont have an example to remember, hmm..05:20
Traceor, can anybody tell me how to check whether sound card work well?05:20
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bigfoot1anybody here use "mail-notification"05:20
bigfoot1?05:20
bigfoot1it's an applet.05:20
Razor-Xhmmm05:21
Razor-Xno, not yet -_-05:21
x55i've been surfing the forums for the past 4 days, its almost got me to where i was on windows, thats why i am impressed, very informative you all are05:21
bigfoot1x55, thank you.05:21
bigfoot1x55, please stop flattering me 8-)05:21
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bddebianhehe05:21
Danarx55: any weak points?05:22
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redxI've tried to add a password to grub, but it just skips it at start up... does anyone know why it does that?05:22
IceDC571im tempted to install kde, someone help me05:22
x55hahaha, i'll stop, after all, i still gotta get some 3d support and dual monitor going, we shall see05:22
IceDC571i'm too bored with gnome and xfce05:22
sunrexnope...no sound.....i think its my sound card...Sound Blaster LIVE! 24bit05:22
bddebianIceDC571: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" :-)05:22
naliothIceDC571: easy, install "kubuntu-desktop"05:22
djm62IceDC571: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:22
IceDC571sunrex: yep, you have to install the LATEST alsa drivers05:22
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IceDC571no i mean help me get away from thinking of installing kde05:23
x55the ati driver howto's look a bit intimidating, i should dig into them when i'm a little more alert05:23
sunrexIceDC571: really were?05:23
dabaRwhy the stupid time obligation, though, nalioth ?05:23
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dabaRI dont like obligations.05:23
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dabaRwhy is it not like, just whatever you can do...05:23
naliothdabaR: i didnt set that, and it is a suggestion05:23
dabaRaha05:23
malakhiIceDC571: don't do that. nothing works right in KDE. And you can never find the damn options to fix it so that it does work right.05:23
punkrockguy318What backup programs does ubuntu have available? Or what scripts can I use to backup my system to a disk?05:23
linuxpoetI am having a problem installing python apps from source (python setup.py install)05:23
naliothdabaR: yes, just what you can do, in irc, the wiki, forums, etc05:23
linuxpoetIt says I am missing config/Makefile05:24
linuxpoetIn the redhat world05:24
bddebiandabaR: If you aren't interested, you aren't interested.  You don't HAVE to :-)05:24
linuxpoetthat would mean I am missing python-dev05:24
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linuxpoetWhat does it mean with Ubuntu05:24
sunrexwere do i get the drivers05:24
bddebianlinuxpoet: So install python-dev05:24
turkeyok i'm having a problem connecting to the internet with ubuntu05:24
Aerebusdabar, should i follow the part about 'Adding outside repositories'?05:24
dabaRno, thats fine, you aer good now.05:24
x55Danar:  i haven't found anything worth complaining about05:25
turkeycan someone PLEASE help me05:25
bddebianturkey: What is the problem?05:25
dabaRgo into a terminal, and type in sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*05:25
linuxpoetthanks for the obvious ;) that worked05:25
dabaRturkey: tell more about the devices, and ISP.05:25
bddebianlinuxpoet: NP :-)05:25
golgorcan anyone tell me how to get root in gnome?05:25
linuxpoetgnome-terminal05:25
linuxpoetthen sudo05:25
dabaRsunrex: did you say which drivers?05:25
djm62!root05:25
ubotuI guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:25
golgori want to get root in the graphical interface05:26
golgornot in the terminal05:26
Danari've been poking around in beep media player, and i don't see any advantages over xmms. i prefer xmms, and i see no reason to switch...05:26
dabaRgolgor, I think still the site tells you.05:26
sunrexyea Sound Blaster LIBR! 24 bit..do i go to the website...or do i need special drivers from ubuntu?05:26
djm62golgor: I don't think gnome supports that05:26
dabaRit does.05:26
Danaryet apparently it's better somehow?05:26
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dabaRI know exactly where in fact.05:26
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dabaRgolgor: why be root?05:27
dabaRin gui?05:27
Danargolgor: no you don't05:27
x55you know i hated winamp 3 on windows, and it seems thats the only release for linux, does anyone use winamp over xmms?  honestly, i just miss my shoutcast TV05:27
golgordabaR, have to move some files and im to lazy to use the terminal05:27
dabaRok, well disable it after, tho.05:27
Aerebusdabar, i redid apt-get install and there are three linesyou might want to see, notice or msg them to you?05:27
Danargolgor: never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo in the terminal05:27
sunrex..were do i get the drivers......05:28
dabaRgolgor: System>Admin>Login screen setup.05:28
Danargolgor: it's not a good idea to run gui apps as root05:28
golgorDanar, i have to move 2 files05:28
dabaRjust disable after, tho, promise./05:28
Danargolgor: so 'mv source destination'05:28
naliothgolgor: using gui apps as root is bad, cuz some gui apps will ravage your system05:28
golgor:(05:28
dabaRAerebus: did it install?05:28
Danargolgor: er, 'sudo mv source dest'05:28
djm62golgor: you realise you've spent longer in here talking about those two files than you would have moving them?05:28
Aerebus0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:28
AerebusNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.05:28
Danardjm62: hah! :D05:28
golgordjm62, no i haven't, because i dont even know the command to move :P05:29
Aerebusoops05:29
dabaRfor sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*?05:29
Aerebus0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:29
AerebusNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.05:29
sunrexhow do i get back the trash can...deleted it from the desktop...05:29
Aerebusbalh05:29
Danargolgor: well, it's "mv"05:29
golgorDanar, thanks :P05:29
dabaRright click on a panel, add to panel, trash.05:29
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djm62golgor: the command is mv.   used "mv start destination"05:29
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sunrexbut were do i get trash at...05:30
Danargolgor: you should look up a list of basic commands. you should at least know ls, mv, rm, mkdir, rmdir, sudo, man, grep, and so on05:30
dabaRoh from desktop?05:30
dabaRor from panel?05:30
dabaRat least grep, hey?05:30
sunrexi deleted it from desktop05:30
sunrexso were do i find it05:30
golgorDanar, haven't found any list of basic commands, haven't searched either05:30
dabaRok, well, that is a little different.05:30
dabaRjust a sec05:30
DanardabaR: of course. it's very useful05:31
Danargolgor: well how do you expect to find one without looking?05:31
dabaRgo apps>System tools>configuration editor, sunrex05:31
bigfoot1razor-x, please try mail-notification. I am able to get the applet to check my non-Gmail account, but it can't check my gmail account.05:31
Tracehello, when i used alsamixer, master and pcm is always 0, i can't up it, can anybody help me?05:31
sunrexthks05:31
Danargolgor: google.com/linux?q=~guide05:31
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gm78Hey all05:32
bddebianHello gm7805:32
djm62golgor: it's a linux thing...knowing the underlying base is occasionally useful.  if you're in the UK I can stick a reference card in an envelope05:32
Danarso no one knows any advantages of beep over xmms?05:32
djm62Danar: gtk versions are different, I think05:32
dabaRsunrex: then, go Apps>nautilus>desktop, its there.05:32
IceDC571Danar: beep is gtk205:32
naliothDanar: gtk2 over gtk1 (and some minor fixes)05:32
djm62Danar: and xmms is less maintained05:32
Danardjm62: does xmms _need_ to be maintained more? it plays all the audio i've put into it05:33
bigfoot1http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228724&postcount=3 talks about a gDesklets gmail checker. WHere can i get this gDesklet?05:33
dabaRya, I like xmms better, dunno, just more reliable.05:33
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cccxmms looks like 199105:33
IceDC571Danar: they're working on xmms2 which is based on gtk205:33
dabaRwho is sending me messages all the time?05:33
Danari like the look of xmms better. yes i got some skins for beep, but none quite like what i want05:33
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dabaRccc: true:)05:33
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DanarIceDC571: sounds good :)05:33
dashxHi guys, I have a question.05:33
sunrexthanks i got it now05:33
pink-noobDoes anyone know if there is an ape and flac plugin for beep?05:34
dabaRwelcome05:34
djm62Danar: if it gets bit-rot, it won't be cleaned...it's likely to get worse, even if it's ok now05:34
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dabaRpink-noob: synaptic might know that.05:34
x55so i realize it would be worthwhile and educational to establish an ftp server through the terminal, but is there a good gui ftp program one could use to establish an ftp server?05:34
IceDC571pink-noob: i've found that the only flac plugin working is the one for xmms105:34
Danardjm62: sorry?05:34
dashxI recently decided to use Ubuntu for a server box. I installed Ubuntu using "server" instead of regular install. How come it never asks me to assign a root password?05:34
dabaRestablishing an ftp server is as easy as installing it05:34
bddebiandashx: Fire away, we'll answer if we can05:34
pink-noobThanks, IceDC571.05:34
bddebiandashx: Ubuntu doesn't have root05:34
bddebian!root05:34
ubotuit has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:34
dabaRdashx that url will tell you .05:35
djm62Danar: for instance, if it stops playing nicely with a gcc update05:35
dabaRalso the insatll told you.05:35
x55really?05:35
dashxthe install never told me.05:35
Danarx55: check out vsftpd & pureftpd05:35
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dabaRx55: yes, then, after that, you can connect to it using a GUI client, such as gftp05:35
x55i have them both, but the prompt still frightens my gui-lovin-ass05:35
dashxThanks for the help guys.05:35
Danardjm62: that would only affect it if  you recompiled it05:35
dabaRyou can not have two ft servers installed, so you dont.05:35
Aerebusdabar, ok i reran apt-get install and i see what it put out and there are 3 lines that might mean soemthing i dont know personally but here they are: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. ... what do i do now?05:35
x55hehehe, pardon the language05:35
djm62Danar: if it works, great...you are free to use whatever you like.  but there are reasons not to05:36
naliothx55 the prompt is your friend, it'll be with you after your gui says goodbye05:36
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dabaRwhat was the apt-get install command Aerebus ?05:36
sunrexok...now were do i get a driver update for Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit05:36
djm62Danar: binary incompatibility happens too, if you give it long enough05:36
sunrexi need to update it05:36
dabaRexadctly as you wrote it.05:36
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x55i know, but as i said, i'm an addict to the intuitive little boxes05:36
sunrexcouse it has NO sound05:36
Aerebussudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*05:36
dabaRsudo apt-get install that05:36
sunrexhuh?05:36
Danardjm62: well if xmms2 is in the works i shouldn't have to worry05:36
dabaRaptitude is stupid like that(I dont know how to use it, anyhow)05:36
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x55microsoft deeply implanted its vile seed within me, hahaha05:37
Aerebussorry i said apt-get didnt i? lol well i'm new to all of this hehe05:37
youthsomeone said to me before that it is possible to get Photoshop 7.0 on here, but I need ..WINE, is this right?05:37
DanarAerebus: that's slight overkill, don't you think?05:37
dabaRsunrex: it is not the driver, some other things are worng with it.05:37
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sunrexall i want to know is HOW TO GET MY SOUND TO WORK lol05:37
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mephisto6Any predictions on how ubuntu would work on an "antique" toshiba laptop? 810 MB HD, PII Processor 16 MB RAM, bum CD ROM05:37
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djm62Danar: nobody told you to worry: you did ask what was wrong with just using xmms.  there's a lot right with it, but you didn't ask that ;)05:37
naliothmephisto6: slowly and with a lightweight or no gui05:37
sunrexdabaR: well what can i do to fix it?05:37
djm62mephisto6: you would need to strip it down quite a lot05:38
dabaRyou wrote the command different, so, did you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*, or aptitude?05:38
Danaryouth: probably. wine is used to run windows apps on linux. there's also cedega which is oriented towards games. it's free if you compile it yourself. search cvscedega. wine should be in the repository05:38
newbiemephisto6 try damn small linux better05:38
dabaRsunrex: you can ask crimsun for help when he is here.05:38
Aerebussudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*05:38
ultrahexhas anyone got Ventrilo to output on Linux?05:38
Aerebusthats what i used05:38
youthOoh. I already started wine lol05:38
Danardjm62: i know. ;)05:38
dabaRok, please do the apt-get instead, that will work.05:38
djm62mephisto6: it would take some skill to get ubuntu to be nice on that hardware05:38
naliothmephisto6: i recommend the server install of ubuntu on the lappy05:38
youthI just wanted to know if that would help me05:38
sunrexwell i got vidio to run...so at least i know that works =/05:38
Aerebussudo apt-get  install gstreamer0.8-*  ?05:38
naliothmephisto6: at that poing you can learn what kind of gui to put on it05:38
mephisto6nalioth: djm62: newbie: I was thinkin' dmsl. Will probably fix the cdrom to make it somewhat easier...05:39
dabaRyes, Aerebus ,05:39
Danaryouth: no reason not to have both. sometimes one will run something the other doesn't05:39
sunrexbrb all05:39
Aerebusok its doing its thing05:39
youthDanar; OKay. Thank you :D05:39
dabaRaptitude does not work with the asterisks that way, I did not read the manual to learn how to do that.05:39
naliothmephisto6: dsl is very screwed, as far as upgradeablity goes05:39
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Danaryouth: wine is more for general apps, cedega for games05:39
mephisto6nalioth: *laughs* server. maybe wifi backpack to go with?05:39
naliothmephisto6: dsl is put together for compact size, not user upgradeability05:39
mephisto6nalioth: knoppix to test the waters, perhaps?05:39
youthDanar; Oooh. I don't play games so I won't worry about cedega.05:40
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djm62mephisto6: liveCDs like memory05:40
naliothmephisto6: how bout ubuntu live cd?05:40
Moppinnalioth, I agree, DSL HDD is a pain to upgrade05:40
dabaRx55: really, I am telling you, for an ftp server, just run sudo aptitude install proftpd(or whatever else you want05:40
dabaR)05:40
youthDanar; but my mom does get on here to play games on line.. games.com or whatever, and they won't play, do you know what I need to do to get them to?05:40
mephisto6nalioth: 810 mb hd sounds compact. think?05:40
Danaryouth: nonetheless, some general windows apps are more graphical, and will only work in cedega05:40
dabaRand then after that, dont touch the server, just sonnect to it using gui clients.05:40
Danaryouth: the ones that play in the browser?05:40
ultrahexVentrilo.... any able to make it output or do i need to install anything ?05:40
youthdanar; yes05:40
djm62mephisto6: there are floppy distros (even with graphics)05:40
Danaryouth: get the flash & java plugins05:40
dabaRyouth: java likely.05:40
mephisto6nalioth: djm62: will have to replace internal cdrom first05:40
Danaryouth: you use firefox right?05:40
Aerebusdabar, it says E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?05:40
DanardabaR: both, likely05:41
youthdanar; yeah.05:41
naliothmephisto6: here you go: www.linuxfromscratch.org05:41
Danaryouth: yeh, there's a plugins faq on mozdev.org05:41
djm62mephisto6: the last time I saw a laptop that light running linux it was being used as a graphic equaliser with blackbox at a gig05:41
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youthdanar; thank you! i'll go check that out. and i'll probably be backl ol05:41
Danaryouth: google firefox plugins, and you should find it05:41
youthk :D!05:41
dabaRwow, Aerebus do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace everything there with what is here: http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list05:41
mephisto6nalioth: I looked at that sight. Will take many moons at my skill level. but worth the experience methinks05:41
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Danaryouth: java can be a bit of a pain though, so pay attention :p05:41
qt2woot \o/05:41
dabaRThen, sudo aptitude update, and then the apt-get again.05:42
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youthdanar; euw :// kkz!05:42
Danaryouth: uh... huh? lol05:42
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youthdanar; nothing O_o05:42
Danarheh05:42
djm62mephisto6: actually, you could get debian, and install blackbox or fluxbox, links, and emacs05:42
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dabaRqt2: do mount, find the /dev/hd** of your gentoo partition, then tell me the fs type, and the /dev/hd**05:43
dabaRmount in a terminal and enter.05:43
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dabaRno05:43
mephisto6djm62:  take it easy on the noob here. baby steps for me. I'm still in process on fiddling w/ 10 old boxes I scored from work, gratis. Gonna put linux variants on 'em all that still work and see what happens.05:43
naliothmephisto6: actually it is well written05:43
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dabaRsudo fdisk -l05:43
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Aerebusdabar, itsdone05:43
Imsdle@#$@##$@ arrrggg damn evolution.. it has crashed and now won't start.. it just trys to open and my hard disk goes bizerk.. any ideas?05:43
dabaRAerebus: now mp3s have to play.05:43
rincewyndarghhh why cant Totem Movie player play mmmoooooviieess?! *cry*05:44
mephisto6nalioth: djm62: copying and pasting recommendations as quickly as possible........Many thanks!!!!05:44
djm62nalioth: would he be as well doing a really basic debian install?05:44
naliothdjm62: on the small laptop? probably05:44
dabaRrincewynd: what does it do, that is needed to know why it does not do what you would like it to, tell us the error message.05:44
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djm62debian is frugal by default :-/05:44
naliothmephisto6: you must be more specific, c/p where to what?05:45
mephisto6*taking notes* nalioth: djm62:05:45
Aerebusdabar, oh after sudo aptitude update i run sudo apt-get update (again)?05:45
naliothdjm62: he can use a netinst floppy debian and start from there05:45
dabaRsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*05:45
Danarrincewynd: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins totem-gstreamer05:45
mephisto6suggestions given from here to a plain text file to pour over later05:45
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punkrockguy318how can I get the differences between two $file commands?05:45
Danarrincewynd: do that ^ and it will work05:45
naliothdjm62: of course he'd have a system with a kernel and apt-get only, lol05:45
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djm62nalioth: worked for me, many moons ago, although it looks like he has CD not floppy05:45
naliothmephisto6: enable logging in your irc client05:45
mephisto6nalioth: bustin' my balls for synaptic after your very own suggestion........*laughs*05:46
naliothdjm62: the netinst comes in cd and floppy images05:46
naliothmephisto6: no big thing, bubba05:46
djm62nalioth: the equation being 14 windows CDs >> 3 'Potato' flopp