[12:00] Aerebus: you can always try that md5 update command [12:00] Yay! It works. Thank you all so much~ [12:01] Aerebus: something has changed your xorg.conf [12:01] ok brb [12:02] HappyFool, isn't there at least a sound HOWTO somewhere? [12:02] nalioth, you said there are some in the applications menu.. where? [12:02] youth: look under "internet" === ArCHoNKoG [~archon@ool-182d58fd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === erki_ [~erki@125.246.216.81.nykop.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] flankk: you can search for 'sound' here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex [12:02] nalioth; is that the "terminal server client"? [12:03] youth: no it is not === RossH [~littldevl@freedomhost.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] what does it mean "backup/restore downloaded repositories cache" [12:03] youth: do you have universe and multiverse repositorys enabled? [12:03] o.o i don't know? === misfit_toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] zaki_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too. [12:03] youth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [12:03] i seriously just got ubuntu like. yesterday and my friend showed me some stuff but not all this [12:03] youth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto === battlecat [battlecat@pool-71-116-44-137.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:04] youth: read what the dog sent ya, when you have that done and enabled, come back here and we'll tell ya where to look in the big toy box [12:04] HappyFool, already done.. these are useless because lspci doesn't even show a sound card. I'm not sure what the card is.. and why wouldn't it be enabled in the kernel? what would you suggest doing? [12:05] flankk: i'd suggest trying to find out what the card is, and using google [12:05] hey does anybody know how to bind a certain command to a key? [12:05] nalioth; ohjoy :3 thanks lol [12:05] flankk, is it disabled in your system's bios ? === Danar [~User@3c8d7727e41decd1.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] vladuz976: maybe System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] flankk: i would've thought lspci would see it, even if no modules were loaded [12:06] is the debian repository compatible with ubuntu? [12:06] HappyFool: that only binds keys to certain funktions in there. not to what i want. only does stuff like play vol up and down and i can select keys for that [12:07] Danar, not recommended [12:07] vladuz976: sorry, i don't know more than that [12:07] LinuxJones: why not? [12:07] HappyFool: ok, thanks anyways [12:07] Danar, chances are the world will keep spinning even if you install some debs [12:07] Danar, most stuff from Debian is available in the Ubuntu repos [12:07] anyone know why when i start ubuntu my mouse won't work... but when i unplug it and plug it back in, it works? [12:07] LinuxJones: is nvu in there yet? [12:08] Danar: nvu is availabe from the nvu homepage [12:08] nailoth; it says "Use the checkboxes in the first column enable or disable a repository. Universe is now enabled." - but which one am I supposed to do? they're all checked. [12:08] nalioth: easier to apt-get stuff. i'd rather have it in the repository [12:08] HappyFool, well it is integrated, and nothing 'Multimedia' is showing.. nor audio. Since it is integrated, the bridge is, " Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge." [12:08] lol anyone? [12:08] Danar, nope but you could install the .deb from the Linspire website I would assume [12:09] youth: universe and multiverse? [12:09] ='( [12:09] alright, i've been trying to fix my sound (sound blaster live) all day. i've read every forum and it still does not work, any ideas? [12:09] MidNightRaVen; my mouse wouldn't work either :/ [12:09] Danar: at this time, nvu isnt available via repo, it will be in breezy, i believe [12:09] youth: figure out how to fix it? [12:09] MidNightRaVen; my mouse with a ball, anyway. i plugged in a ball-less one and it worked lol [12:09] Danar: the deb from nvu homepage installs just fine [12:09] lol really? [12:09] Yeah XD [12:09] Go get one without a ball, it might work hahah [12:09] youth: i have a ball mouse right now... so maybe that's the pro [12:10] lol [12:10] i'm on debian now. if i switched my sources.list to the ubuntu repository, would i be able to 'upgrade' from debian to ubuntu? [12:10] flankk: sorry, no idea. can you maybe lookup your mainboard via google to find out the sound chipset? [12:10] thx =D!! [12:10] MidNightRaVen; Maybe. Maybe not though. It just worked for me, that's all I know lol [12:10] Danar: only if you are running woody [12:10] nalioth: er, testing [12:10] youth: lol i imagine it probably will... it's worth a try eh? [12:10] Danar: is that sid or etch? [12:10] nalioth; universe and multiverse..? i feel so dumb i have no idea what you mean >< [12:10] youth: thx =) I hope it works! === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] youth: watch the dog [12:10] flankk: has your sound worked previously? if so, in what OS? [12:10] youth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [12:10] Happyfool, ok i got it i saw the nvidia loo === Belutz is now known as Belutz`sleeping [12:11] youth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [12:11] nalioth: whichever testing is :p [12:11] logo* [12:11] MidNightRaVen; worth a shot, yah. if it doesn't work, you have a nifty mouse. [12:11] Aerebus: yay ;) [12:11] Danar: probably easier to clean install ubuntu [12:11] however i dont think that helped lol [12:11] Aerebus: then it's probably working [12:11] youth: i was planning on getting a usb mouse anywho... so maybe i'll just get one early instead ;-) [12:11] :3 [12:12] nalioth: i'd prefer to be able to keep most of my settings and stuff the way they are without having to go through configurations all over again... [12:12] it helped alittle but see when i hold a mouse button and drag the window around i see jagged edges and it looks nasty, any way to correct that? === omegasoul [~strong@pcp441849pcs.savana01.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:12] I'll try! dog o-o person.. lol [12:12] thanks [12:12] my major gripe with ubuntu though is not enough packages in the repository [12:12] Aerebus: yeah, don't drag windows around. [12:12] Danar: well, from woody is the only easy option [12:12] Aerebus: sorry, no idea [12:12] ?!?! lol [12:12] HappyFool, it has worked it windows previously. [12:12] nalioth: :/ woody isn't up-to-date enough [12:13] flankk: if you still have windows installed, boot that and find out what the sound card/chipset is [12:13] Danar, you should enable the universe & multiverse repos for like 11,000 more packages [12:13] LinuxJones: i did. [12:13] do you guys know where i can get lvc from?? i look for it in synaptic but for whatever reason it's not there [12:13] Danar: understand, but the fact that it is OLD, makes the ubuntu upgrade the easiest [12:13] HappyFool, that's useless. you can find more information in linux. [12:13] LinuxJones: some stuff, like nvu still wasn't there [12:14] flankk: eh? it works in windows, right? === misfit_toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] flankk: and in Linux it isn't even showing up in lspci [12:14] flankk: i guess you could google for each of the pci identifiers [12:15] lol you guys know where I can get lvc?? it doesn't show up on synaptic [12:15] Danar: nvu is in one of the repositories === BeefTube [~I_like@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] but if i switched my sources.list to ubuntu and simply upgraded as the versions passed my currently installed ones, would that work? [12:15] Danar, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor [12:15] When i use music player, rythm box "has quit unexpectedly" === QMario [~ndubisi@209-223-48-213-dsl.oplnk.net] has joined #UBUNTU [12:15] HappyFool, I don't fucking have windows. sheesh.. it can be done in linux. I'll just use kudzu. [12:15] The_Vox: it is? when did that happen? must have been recently [12:15] *sigh* [12:16] Danar: no clue when it happened, but: [12:16] vox@nimashet:~$ apt-cache search nvu [12:16] nvu - Complete Web Authoring System [12:16] nvu-dev - developers files for nvu [12:16] <---- no one hears.... [12:16] I cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me. Please. :-[ [12:16] MidNightRaVeN: what is lvc supposed to be? [12:16] flankk: *shrug* feel free to take out your frustration on people not paid to help you [12:16] I've to go! [12:16] The_Vox: it's a media player that someone suggested to me... [12:16] The_Vox: :) thx === sexcopter8000m [~james@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] nailoth; thank you so much! and the.. nailoth dog O_o thanks! [12:16] youth: we'll be here === Freedomzen [~rob@ip68-9-226-110.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] k :D [12:16] HappyFool, lol good one :) [12:16] MidNightRaVeN: uhm...no, what you were suggested is vlc not lvc [12:16] good. 'cause. I'm going to need you rofl [12:17] MidNightRaVeN: VLC [12:17] Odd... I simply redid the installation exactly as I had the first time and this time grub loaded Ubuntu properly on reboot [12:17] The_Vox: o... [12:17] The_Vox: lol [12:17] Lufusol: well great! [12:17] MidNightRaVeN: stands for vido lan client, i think [12:17] HappyFool, you don't get paid for favors. and i don't need guilt because i didn't bow to your answer. [12:17] Ok I have a question I just tried to upgrade and got a MD5SUM Mismatch is there any way around this [12:17] Danar: work well? [12:17] MidNightRaVeN: yep. one of the best [12:18] Have any of you been able to run Hoary with a Sound Blaster Live! sound card??? [12:18] MidNightRaVeN: personally i don't like the interface, but it plays pretty much anything === The_Vox has never actually liked vlc... [12:18] I cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me? Please? :-[ [12:18] hmmm =/ can i get it over synaptic? [12:18] kudzu == hardware probing library? [12:18] MidNightRaVeN: yes [12:18] I also run Debian and XP so let's see if I can make those available options in Grub now that i have atleast one OS to work from [12:18] The_Vox: sweet [12:18] MidNightRaVeN: i use xine when i can. then vlc or mplayer when it doesn't play something [12:18] MidNightRaVeN: yes === QMario says me neither. [12:19] Danar: it would be under Multimedia right [12:19] ? [12:19] QMario, have you looked at >> www.ubuntuguide.org there is a whole section on getting Samba up and running and there are resources on the wiki [12:19] MidNightRaVeN: i find xine easy to use, and it plays pretty much everything once you've installed the codecs from the repo [12:19] Danar: repo? [12:19] good night *yawn* === HappyFool [~HappyFool@tedo-ip-nas-1-p192.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:19] Danar: steal the "all codecs" package from the mplayer site and install it in /usr/lib/win32 and you'll stop using vlc and mplayer...except when trying to view corrupted files, mplayer deals better with those [12:19] MidNightRaVeN: yeah. i don't use the categories though. it's easier to just search for what you're looking for, or apt-get it [12:19] MidNightRaVeN: repo = short for repository [12:20] The_Vox: hrm. thx [12:20] The_Vox: i thought those codecs went into /usr/local/lib/codecs [12:20] uh [12:20] yea, it wasnt under the category but a search brought up xine [12:20] nalioth: I stuck them in /usr/lib/win32 and xine found them [12:20] The_Vox: hmmm [12:20] nalioth, /usr/local is reserved [12:20] nalioth: and mplayer found them too [12:21] kbrooks: yes i know, its for things YOU install [12:21] Danar: do you know if it would be gxine? [12:21] nalioth: I think the /usr/local/lib/codecs is for when you compile mplayer by hand [12:21] MidNightRaVeN: that's the gnome xine interface === anatole [~anatole@a84-0-160-32.adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] MidNightRaVeN: i prefer the regular xine [12:21] The_Vox: u/l/l/c is recommended on mplayerhq [12:21] get vlc [12:21] that rocks [12:21] read: by hand [12:21] Danar: xine-ui then? [12:21] nalioth: right...as I said, it's for when you compile by hand [12:21] Vlc, doesn't play sound though on my system. [12:22] kbrooks: yes, things you compile [12:22] collect them all :p [12:22] MidNightRaVeN: yeah === nalioth head spins [12:22] MidNightRaVeN: that would be xine User Interface [12:22] time for a beer [12:22] what beer, where? [12:22] how do I change the location for the weather toolbar? [12:22] Danar: k, thx =) i tried Totem for some Dvds... and I dunno if it was my computer or totem, but they just wouldn't play so I'm gonna try xine first before going any further [12:23] MidNightRaVeN: i find xine is great with DVDs & CDs. it has buttons for that. just click & it plays [12:23] hi, another ubuntu prob, when i try to play sound, i get this error message, "Could not open resource for writing." Any ideas? [12:23] MidNightRaVeN: does the menus too, IIRC === p8ntballer100822 [~p8ntballe@dpc674588192.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] Danar: do you know how to like rip straight to your drive? [12:23] Stan2, right click it and hit move [12:24] Danar: so you can watch anytime ... === LeeColleton [~lc@dsl254-021-168.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] MidNightRaVeN: yeh, there's a bunch of apps for that. try searching [12:24] linuxjones, lol i mean like the city, zip... [12:24] Danar: kk =) [12:24] hey i was wondering how i could make my apache server a .com adress, could anybody help me [12:24] Stan2, haha [12:24] MidNightRaVen, have you tried installing libdvdcss2? [12:24] p8ntballer100822: call a web host [12:24] MidNightRaVeN: handy sites: google.com/linux & www.sf.net [12:24] QMario: dunno what that is... [12:24] linuxjones so do you know? [12:24] QMario: that's for reading them, not ripping them... [12:24] you cant do it yourself [12:25] ... [12:25] from your own computer [12:25] p8ntballer100822: no [12:25] Stan2, right click >> Preferences >> Location tab [12:25] cause i already have apache set up [12:25] oic [12:25] MidNightRaVeN: it's a library that lets your apps decode encrytped dvds [12:25] linuxjones got it thanks [12:25] Danar: o... i'm guessing that xine should do that as well? [12:26] MidNightRaVeN: yeah [12:26] Stan2, :) [12:26] MidNightRaVeN: actually, i dunno if it uses that, cause i have it too [12:26] MidNightRaVeN: might do it on it's own though [12:26] Danar: i just got xine installed... so going to try it but how do you do repository stuff? [12:27] MidNightRaVeN: uh, what 'repository stuff'? [12:27] Danar: well.... you said you can download codecs from the repository? [12:27] MidNightRaVeN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [12:27] whats the gui in ubuntu called? X? or Gnome? [12:27] MidNightRaVeN: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [12:27] Aerebus: both [12:27] MidNightRaVeN: yeh, do a search in description & name for codec [12:27] MidNightRaVeN: :p [12:28] Danar: lol thx =) i think I'm done bothering you for a bit ;-) [12:28] MidNightRaVeN: and see the link nalioths_dog posted for adding repositories [12:28] Danar: atleast for now ;-) [12:28] kk [12:28] k. np === alerim [~alerim@voltaire-102-1-10.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu === CavalierBob [~bob@c-24-4-128-79.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === QMario [~ndubisi@209-223-48-213-dsl.oplnk.net] has left #UBUNTU [] === ubuntu__ [~ubuntu@a84-231-100-113.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] i've decided to start teaching my sister eacs at 6 [12:30] that'll be her birthday present, a fresh linux install with GNU Emacs [12:30] Razor-X: teaching your sisters WHAT? [12:30] nalioth: emacs [12:30] Hey guys, stupid question: how can one get configured kernel source tree for stock ubuntu kernel? [12:30] *emacs [12:30] anyoe here use wxpython? I have installed it and looks (when I run eg pycrust) like it is linked against gtk and not gtk2, which doesn't look nice. [12:30] Razor-X: lol. i was gonna say "what's eacs? google comes up with german..." :p [12:30] Razor-X: they're so young! don't ruin em [12:30] that way, at age 8, she'll surpass just about half the channel ;) [12:31] Razor-X, And die at the age of 30. [12:31] Fikrann: doubt that [12:31] bjron: if you use synaptic, you should find lots of python stuff for gtk2 [12:31] she'll be a kickass sysadmin [12:32] Fikraan: there should be a wiki entry on that [12:32] Fikrann, mb copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 (or whatever) to your kernel source tree [12:32] Danar: real quick question, how do i turn it so that Totem doens't start my DVDs up automatically? === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@dD576CB7F.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] MidNightRaVeN: hrm. that's probably a gnome setting. poke around in the menus [12:33] bjron, wxpython is linked against gtk2, but it >sometimes< show up with built-in widgets that look similar to old unthemed gtk. [12:33] MidNightRaVeN: can't help much as i'm not on either gnome or ubuntu ATM [12:33] she'll start Dvoraking at 4, though [12:33] nalioth, as far as I can tell, that's not gonna help wxpython stuff look better; [12:33] Danar: o, =) kk === Owl_ [~jani@a81-197-107-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] Fikrann, do you know how to fix that? [12:33] bjron, I run into this problem once while playing with Breezy .. === X7C [~xtc@pc-43-180-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] bjron, I removed all of wxPython from python site-packages dir and reinstalled it fresh. [12:34] Fikrann, cause yea, I was reading everywhere that it was linked with gtk2, but then it was definately not following my gtk theme [12:34] what is the correct spelling for nautalis...? [12:34] Fikrann, hrm, but I just installed it fresh today! [12:35] actually, a brand new hoary install on this machine too :\ [12:35] anyone any ideas with my sound problem?? [12:35] what kind of sound card do you have? === Invisible_Magi [~Invisible@165.154.121.241] has joined #Ubuntu [12:36] well it's terratec, but it shows as C-Media [12:36] but i think that's just the chipset or something like that [12:36] =/ dunno then.... [12:36] can anyone predict any specific problems i might avoid in switching from debian to ubuntu via switching repositories? [12:37] does this mean there's a good chance it might go smoothly? [12:37] ok, I have been very happy with so far with my switch to Ubuntu. I was spoiled with my email and antispam under windows however. Is there a good combination in ubuntu, like thunderbird or evolution and spamassassin? === aleksi_ [~aleksi@a193-229-161-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] redtech: what's wrong with those? === LallouSe [~lebforces@194.146.155.50] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] redtech, install thunderbird. . . [12:38] i cant imagine that people are relying on the built in "filtering" [12:38] Danar: you will have lots of version discrepancies [12:38] nalioth: what do you mean? [12:38] c-media works very well in Linux. [12:38] redtech: yes, certainly [12:39] Danar: nothing wrong.. whats the "proper" combination? How do I configure the two to sleep together? [12:39] Danar: sarge, sid and etch are too similar to ubuntu for a smooth transition via sources.list swap === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] Fikrann, do you know much about c-media and linux? [12:39] Cool and admin is here [12:39] an* [12:40] sexcopter8000m: It's supported [12:40] nalioth: what? i would think similarity would ease the switch, not hinder it [12:40] sexcopter8000m: You might have to compile a new version of the kernel [12:40] redtech: you can use caching proxys, virus-sniffing proxys, whatever you want to do [12:40] Danar: ubuntu has its own pkgs [12:40] sexcopter8000m, I've been using c-media 878 based card for quite some time. [12:40] What is the name of the project that uses graphics on boot up? [12:40] Danar: ubuntu and debian pkgs don't mix very well [12:40] erk.... i'm not sure if my experience permits me to compile new kernels :s [12:41] nalioth: what's the ubuntu equivalent of testing called? [12:41] sexcopter8000m: its not as scary as it sounds === tsunammis [~tsunammis@lns-vlq-32-orl-82-253-219-81.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] Danar, Breezy [12:41] Danar: Breezy [12:41] thx [12:41] =) [12:41] I win [12:41] :D [12:41] lol [12:41] lol [12:41] Xyc0, you might be interested in fbsplash [12:41] here's a cookie :p === TPC [tpwch@TPC-student-pdpc.love-sources] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] do you guys know how i can turn Totem in Gnome off so that it doesn't autoplay? [12:42] Fikrann: is that the one FC4 uses? [12:42] what's the underlying point in it? I'm guessing that when one compiles a kernal on a local machine, it makes one that is compiled around the exact hardware setup, rather than a generic one for all machines... is that a reasonable guess? [12:42] MidNightRaVeN: might poke around in totem's settings actually... === transgress [~transgres@68-191-96-214.dhcp.dctr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] Xyc0, no. That's the one Gentoo is using. [12:42] I just installed gpdf, but the default pdf viewer in gnome is still xpdf. I can't find where to change it, so how do I find the menu where I change it? [12:42] Danar: yea... still looking and I'm not finding anything just yet... [12:43] Danar: i dont think there is one === Tyche [~Tyche@mhfw1.crbard.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] nalioth: one what? [12:43] sexcopter8000m: when you compile your own kernel, it only has drivers for your box [12:43] . [12:43] sexcopter8000m: reducing the size (and load time) considerably [12:43] lol i fixed it... but it's kinda cheating... guess it'll work for now till i figure out more [12:43] Danar: 'testing' [12:44] TPC, right click on a pdf, select properties, switch to Open with tab, select gpdf on the list. [12:44] nalioth: couple birdies told me it was Breezy... [12:44] Fikrann, ok, thanks [12:44] so it's a good thing to do even if you don't have a problem to fix? [12:44] TPC try looking into Properties of some pdf file, .... oh well Fikrann's been faster :D [12:44] sexcopter8000m: In addition, when you compile your own kernel, you don't have to load support for you devices via modules, saves space and time [12:44] and i take it there's a plethora of walkthroughs if i look on google? === TPC [tpwch@TPC-student-pdpc.love-sources] has left #ubuntu ["leaving"] [12:44] sexcopter8000m: I do, but it can lead to problems if you mess it up [12:44] hoary is like stable, right? [12:45] Danar: then that must be it, note the /topic [12:45] sexcopter8000m: if you desire [12:45] nalioth: hrm. what's that about? [12:45] Danar: yes it's stable [12:45] what's the other one? [12:45] Danar: as in "dont use breezy"? === david_ is now known as david_afk [12:45] hoary, breezy... ? [12:45] well that being the case, i'll do some reading and ask any questions before i embark [12:45] but not tonight, i is too sleepy :) [12:45] nalioth: yeh, i see that. i'm asking why [12:46] sorry, totally unrelated noob question, what's nautilus? === mello6 [~mellowyll@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] !nautilus [12:46] Danar: I don't know [12:46] Danar: because breezy is in active development now and is pretty ugly for normal use [12:46] ... no bot? === aa [~a@host107-27.pool80180.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] ah [12:46] bondage.com [12:46] Danar: its !info nautilus [12:46] !info nautilus [12:46] sexcopter8000m, it's the capt. Nemo's famous submarine :) [12:46] nalioth: ah. thx [12:46] nautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.0-0ubuntu9 (hoary), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2588 kB [12:47] ... oO [12:47] Fikrann, oh, wow, reinstalling wxpython fixed it; I think installing boa-constructor first was my problem maybe === bjron shrugs [12:47] Fikrann, thanks for the tip === GenericBob [~Generic@dhcp-27-194.ele.etsmtl.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] sexcopter8000m, http://www.cshobbies.com/images/nautilus-30%20in.jpg :) === aigarius [~aigarius@a130-233-4-33.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu === Tyche [~Tyche@mhfw1.crbard.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] sexcopter8000m: yer basic file manager === QMario [~ndubisi@209-223-48-213-dsl.oplnk.net] has joined #UBUNTU [12:48] in Ubuntu 5.04, when i goto System > Theme what kind of themes are those? i'm looking at gnome-look.org what section should i be looking at? [12:48] bjron, You're welcome .. you might want to try wxGlade, btw, if you're serious about using wxPython. [12:48] How do I see another Ubuntu computer on my network? [12:48] Fikrann, *nod* I might, thank :) [12:48] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb MD5Sum mismatch [12:48] any way around that [12:49] Freedomzen: Yes, remove the "us." in your /etc/sources.list [12:49] Apparently the US servers have some issues with MD5 susms [12:49] sums === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] Freedomzen: the repos are wonky today [12:49] thank you [12:49] Hi, i was wondering how to install stuff on ubuntu, like XMMS, the RPM doesnt seem to be the way, and when i try ./configure it say i dont have a valid compiler in the path, so i was wondering if it has a nice little plug & play installer like gentoo EMERGE [12:49] thanks all [12:49] GenericBob, apt-get [12:49] md5sum libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb [12:49] a6caae961c40c760fe782c091c7bfc39 libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb [12:49] GenericBob, wtf? [12:49] Freedomzen: you may edit off the us. prefacing the archive.ubuntu.blah, and be fixed up [12:49] you know what it's supposed to be? [12:49] GenericBob: Try to apt-get install gcc (that should get you the core utils, including binutils) [12:49] GenericBob: use synaptic [12:49] GenericBob, you use apt-get or synaptic [12:49] GenericBob system -> administration => synaptic package manager :D [12:50] GenericBob: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [12:50] GenericBob: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [12:50] Speedy2: its 'build-essential' [12:50] ok thx all thats the tip i needed :) === jtan325 [~jtan325@colfax.cs.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] Speedy2: not 'gcc' [12:50] nalioth: Thanks. GenericBob: I guess you need to apt-get install build-essential :) === dmk [~dmk@host81-156-26-148.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] nalioth: I ended up doing it via aptittude, and I selected gcc, apologies. [12:51] nalioth: breezy is in active development? isn't there an equivalent to unstable for that? [12:51] Speedy2: build-essential gets you the whole compilation set === athlon [~athlon@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] nalioth, i never received a registration email. what should i do? [12:51] and how come the first version i heard of was 4 or 5? what about 1, 2... ? [12:51] Danar: i dont think ubuntu follows debians levels of preparedness [12:52] jasoncohen: did you see any error msgs? [12:52] yeah, i think its the minimum :) By the way each time i try to install stuff or install upgrade it prompt for password, ive tried the user password and the root password but both of them exit application with status 1 [12:52] nalioth, no- and i know the mail server is working because i signed up for a bugzilla account and received one immediately === heimdall_ [~MS3@lns-vlq-31-rou-82-253-164-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] nalioth: that seems to imply it's just starting and hasn't developed that many levels yet, but apparently ubuntu is at version 5 now... [12:52] Danar: version numbers are year and month warty 4.10 (2004 october), hoary 5.04 (2005, april), etc [12:52] danar ubuntu's version numbers come from the date when a version is released. year and month [12:53] nalioth, oh, and a backports developer fixed konversation to work with KDE 3.4.0 [12:53] jasoncohen: i can only suggest trying again [12:53] i see [12:53] Thats what it say: Child terminated with 1 status [12:53] jasoncohen: thats good, since some of us are using 3.4.1 [12:53] Echec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic: [12:53] Child terminated with 1 status [12:53] so next will be 5.1? [12:53] GenericBob: that msg is meaningless [12:53] someone terminated me? [12:53] 5.04 = 2005, april [12:53] ;) [12:53] nalioth, well, it'll work with 3.4.0 or higher [12:54] Danar: next will be breezy badger 5.10 [12:54] danar, add 6 months [12:54] ok i'm sorry ;) [12:54] so i was right [12:54] nalioth, indeed ill try to reboot to see if its still doing it === jacky^ [~no@d83-176-29-40.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] hi [12:54] GenericBob: no rebooting [12:54] well, missing a zero. habit [12:54] GenericBob: this is not windows, where when you sneeze, you reboot [12:54] nalioth: then what do you suggest? === QMario [~ndubisi@209-223-48-213-dsl.oplnk.net] has left #UBUNTU [] [12:55] GenericBob: did your program run? [12:55] speaking of which... i have to reboot :p === doko [~doko@a130-233-4-29.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu === bimberi [~bimberi@ppp-36-76.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] nalioth: nope, all application that seem to need password seem to crash after password prompt [12:55] dude... i can't figure out where i should get codecs.... [12:55] GenericBob: open a terminal and type "sudo synaptic" [12:55] gah! [12:56] MidNightRaVeN: www.mplayerhq.hu [12:56] why doesen't (global-set-key "\C-x\C-kl" 'lax-compile) work if M-x lax-compile does :( [12:56] I get a repeted msg in dmesg: ACPI: Error reading LCD status, where can I disable acpi ? [12:56] nalioth: but will it go through synaptic... or will i have to do it manually? [12:57] how do i ssh into my other ubuntu box on the network? === mirshafie [~sam@84.217.31.126] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] nalioth: great it seem that my root password has changed since the installation [12:57] MidNightRaVeN: there is some way to use synaptic to get the codecs, but i dont recommend it [12:57] ubuntu_: Is an ssh server installed on your other machine? [12:57] GenericBob: there is no root password [12:57] yes [12:57] !sudo [12:57] I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [12:57] GenericBob: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [12:57] ubuntu_: "ssh -2 user@server.IP" [12:57] nalioth: kk =/ [12:57] kk thank you [12:57] ubuntu_: Type that at a command prompt [12:57] flegare@you-are-here:~$ sudo synaptic [12:57] Password: [12:57] flegare is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [12:58] Rather, consule [12:58] ok, trying to get latest version of Gaim, but the autopackage version on this page seems to be a dead link, anyone got it locally they can send, or know of any mirrors? [12:58] and how do i use live cd to get what i want on my hard drive? [12:58] it's 1 am here in Poland and I've just started wondering, why am I not asleep? :) === BL4NK [blank@adsl-69-226-46-113.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] sexcopter8000m: sudo apt-get install gaim [12:58] serengeti: friday night? [12:58] brb [12:58] ok I have installed the headers for my kernel and the source... but the nvidia installer still complains about target kernel version is there a workaround? [12:58] nalioth, yep, but it's already saturday, sadly [12:59] Freedomzen: what's the complaint? [12:59] Unable to determine the target kernel version [12:59] well that says i have the latest version.... hmmm === jacky^ [~no@d83-176-29-40.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu [] === SpecialBuddy [~matt@66-227-181-249.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] the latest is 1.4.0, but i've got 1.1.4 [12:59] nalioth: so i gess there is a sudoers file where i need to add my user === battlecat [battlecat@pool-71-116-44-137.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === Silmaris [vampyre@m130.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] hey, you vi bubs out there, make me a powerful vi macro XD === hosler [~hosler@AC8FFEEA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] GenericBob: you need to add the user to the wheel group [01:00] i think 1.1.4 is the latest that comes as a debian package === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === pgidz [~redhat@i-195-137-48-98.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] nevermind i just read the place where it talk about it :) [01:00] Freedomzen: can't you manually feed nvidia the version? [01:00] bdebbian you there? [01:00] Where can I get some good eye candy for gnome? [01:01] hosler: first, go shower in syrup === inemo is now known as inemo|asleep [01:01] ;) [01:01] Razor-X, not that I know of I thought installing the header files for my kernel would fix that [01:01] hosler, www.gnomelook.org [01:01] that's my reccomendation to all of you that obsessed with eye-candy ;) [01:01] I tried using superkaramba, but the transparency doesnt work. [01:01] hosler, go to www.guistyles.com [01:01] Freedomzen: not always [01:01] nalioth: well it say to add my user using User & Group but this application have the same problem, it ask for password then fail... [01:01] :( [01:02] whats the diff between a i586 and an i686 aside from 100 [01:02] hosler if you want shadows and this kind of stuff, grab xcompmgr from synaptic and add some magic lines to your xorg.conf... and here you go [01:02] that's because superkaramba is a KDE application, and so I doubt it can support Gnome transparency [01:02] battlecat: .... [01:02] the 100 doesen't mean much [01:03] this is a good lesson for all you people ;) [01:03] serengeti, I was thinking more like osxbars, system info apps, and other stuff like that on my desktop. [01:03] the first, highly marketable IBM PC out there was called the 8086 [01:03] it has something to do with the number of registers and such, i'm not going to get into it === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.49] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] hosler, it's gdesklets then [01:03] So what is the diff with the ones I asked about [01:04] hosler, adesklets or gdesklets [01:04] The_Vox: Ok but i dont see any group wheel in the /etc/group file :( [01:04] nalioth, ok, i signed up [01:04] corresponding itterations of the processors included more stuff with registrs === ubuntu_ is now known as lamentconfigurea === Peroloco [~peroloco4@82-213-233-27.ADSL.tiscali.es] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] the 8086 was superceded by the 80286 [01:04] ok thanks [01:04] then the 80386 [01:04] GenericBob, I just use a root passwd and bypass sudo completly [01:04] then the 80486 [01:04] it works for me [01:04] the 80486 was the first to host extended registers [01:05] hosler, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ [01:05] and thus, was given the prefix "i486" [01:05] GenericBob: uhm...never mind, not wheel here either...seems to be either adm or admin you need the user in [01:05] just ordered some more CDs :) [01:05] dude who does not know this, it was like 10 years ago [01:05] will a distro that is made for i586 work better than a distro made for i386 on a P3? [01:05] that's why 1286 and i386 are a bit misleading, but, ok...... [01:05] nalioth: there isn't a codec folder in my /usr/local/lib... should i create one? and how do i create one since it's locked? [01:05] battlecat: if you think a little after reading my description... yes.... [01:06] well you know about assumptions [01:06] MidNightRaVeN, install the gstreamer metapkg and watch stuff in totem [01:06] and typos [01:06] Its a bit sad that so far what i need to fix the problem is affected by the same problem that, kinda make me stuck... [01:06] Freedomzen: lol everyone tells me something different ;-) does that work well? [01:06] MidNightRaVeN: if a folder or file is 'locked' then you don't have permissions because you either aren't the owner, or aren't root [01:06] or both [01:06] have a good night... or day... have a good whatever :) I'm falling asleeeeeee [01:06] p === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:07] GenericBob: what's the problem? [01:07] MidNightRaVeN, for me it did when I had Ubuntu installed b4 but now I need to get nvidia working [01:07] bye [01:07] see ya serengeti ...you in africa? [01:07] MidNightRaVeN: just a note in case you don't know... never log in as root, except in a terminal, and only if necessary. use sudo instead [01:07] dbernar1 no, eastern europe :) [01:07] Poland [01:07] cool. good night === battlecat [battlecat@pool-71-116-44-137.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:07] Danar: yea! see... how do you use sudo to open up the folder and create a codec folder inside? [01:08] sudo mkdir foldername? [01:08] serengeti, thanks [01:08] The_Vox: every admin application on ubuntu need a password, when i provide the password it say: Fail: Child terminated with 1 status [01:08] kk [01:08] *trying* [01:08] MidNightRaVeN: if you want to create a sub folder, then in a terminal, put 'sudo mkdir foldername' === Eddie [~eddie@eddie.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] GenericBob: uhm...even in console? [01:08] Hi guys, im having a problem with DNS [01:08] MidNightRaVeN: use the full path if you can't cd into that dir first [01:09] resolv.conf keeps reverting to "search" and my routers ip as its contents [01:09] despite my having edited it to match my real dns settings [01:09] it continues to revert [01:09] MidNightRaVeN: another handy tip if you don't know: use tab completion [01:09] The_Vox: in the console i get the user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [01:09] Eddie did you edit the document with "sudo" ? [01:09] used the full path and it worked =D thx! Do you know anyone if Xine will import codecs from /usr/local/lib/codecs like mplayer? [01:09] Eddie, is there a script in /etc/init.d that deals with DNS? [01:09] lamentconfigurea: yeah, it works for a while [01:09] weard [01:09] or do all players look in that directory? === GMachine_24 [~erikm@pool-71-99-101-174.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] GenericBob: uhm...my guess is that you are going to have to get in in single-user mode and work from there to fix it...but I'm not sure if you actually can. [01:10] MidNightRaVeN: sudo = Super User DO. ie, do as super user (root) [01:10] MidNightRaVeN: you can use it to run just about any command as root === Stealth-X [stealthx@CPE000b6a02eae1-CM001255730722.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] If the reboot dont work ill try to patch this problem using gentoo ;) [01:10] anyone here get counter-strike to play on linux? Just want to know if its worth trying. [01:11] Danar: i just haven't learned all the mkdir, and such commands yet... [01:11] MidNightRaVeN: yeh.. they're handy to know. use 'man' frequently [01:11] Danar: will do =) how do you extract files into the folder once you are ready though? with like the sudo command? === eddie [~eddie@85.133.120.189] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] I have been unable to install the "help" files for The Gimp. I get a checksum error message for one of the files that is supposed to b === eddie is now known as Eddie [01:12] be downloaded. sorry. === dbernar1 is now known as dabaR [01:12] thank goodness that the nick became available... [01:12] MidNightRaVeN: you can either change the permissions on the folder, or do it as root. as i said, you can run most commands as root with sudo: 'sudo command arguments' [01:13] Ive been waiting for days... [01:13] MidNightRaVeN: see 'man sudo' [01:13] I should register it [01:13] kk === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] !rootsude [01:13] No idea, dabaR [01:13] !rootsudo [01:13] rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [01:13] there? [01:13] ya, read that. [01:13] kk [01:13] about the root. [01:13] hmm [01:13] mhm. [01:13] anyone else try to download the "help" files for the gimp? [01:14] tried again, GMachine_24 , I mean, a checksum error means bad download... [01:14] Danar: since you're doing stuff in /usr/lib or whatever, best to run the command with sudo, rather than changing permissions [01:14] *tried again? [01:14] nice, teh guy is talking to himself on IRC. [01:14] I have tried for a couple days. But am willing to keep at it. [01:14] :P === owlmanatt [~owlmanatt@64.252.23.88] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] you use a router? [01:15] Danar: i just gotta find out what the sudo command is to extra files though [01:15] dabaR: your client have replacements? ;) [01:15] do I use a router? yes. [01:15] it says danar: blah... [01:15] MidNightRaVeN: er, no. you need the command to extract files or whatever it is you're trying to do. then just put sudo in front of it to do it as root [01:15] GMachine_24: try withou the router, higher chance of correct download. [01:15] ok. thanks. [01:15] anyone have any idea of my ftp question? [01:15] Can anyone suggest a good peer to peer client for ubuntu [01:15] Howdy, having some monitor troubles. I rebooted today and my dual-head setup has gone whack. The 21" monitor won't work at 1024x768 anymore, but 1600x1200 is fine for it...anyone know what would cause this? TwinView with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200, nvidia modules, kernel 2.6.10-386. [01:15] and a good bittorrent client [01:16] by peer to peer I meant gnutella2 [01:16] Danar: oooo lol [01:16] Eddie: azureus for BT [01:16] azureus agreed [01:16] Eddie: for p2p amule [01:16] dabaR: huh? i said that cause you said 'teh'. you should be able to have it automatically replace it with 'the' (or anything else for that matter) [01:16] Danar: k then.. i need to know the extract command for terminal =D [01:16] The_Vox, the java one? [01:16] ok thanks [01:16] MidNightRaVeN: could be tar, unzip, unrar, etc [01:16] Eddie: yup, the java one...I have java, but azureus rocks. Just "sudo aptitude install azureus" and it'll deal with the java installation [01:16] Danar: no, irssi, maybe it does it, dunno [01:17] MidNightRaVeN: prolly tar. 'man tar' === flegare [~flegare@dhcp-27-212.ele.etsmtl.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] extract waht? [01:17] Danar: yea, it just says .tar.bz2 [01:17] good question... [01:17] lol [01:17] windows? [01:17] ;-) [01:17] some codecs i'm trying to use for playing a DVD [01:17] MidNightRaVeN: is this your idea of ripping...? === parabolize [~paraboliz@68-69-136-167.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] heh [01:18] anyone know anything about pureftpd? [01:18] like should i get it? [01:18] MidNightRaVeN: you ought to be able to extract it in nautilus or something [01:18] I tried again and got same nonsense - that I should file a bug report and E: broken packages [01:18] MidNightRaVeN: you don't have to do everything in the terminal [01:18] I tried apt-get install gimp-help [01:18] MidNightRaVeN: oh yeah... no permissions [01:18] ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can install and try ALL ftp servers === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-77-57.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] ok [01:19] :P anyone elses ubuntu cd's come in today? === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] ChurcH_of_FoamY: as long as they aren't running at the same time, they wont cause any trouble [01:19] MidNightRaVeN: tar xzjf file.tar.bz2 [01:19] liz4rd !! hey whats up [01:19] I think, I will check. [01:19] yea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it [01:19] ChurcH_of_FoamY: pureftpd is good, so is vsftpd [01:19] hey man nm [01:19] Danar: yea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it [01:19] The first time i launch a "Admin" application in ubuntu it prompt for password, i type it, then the prompt disapear, then nothing.... When i try to relaunch a "admin" application i get the Child terminated with 1 status. I guess its not a normal beavior anyone know what is the problem???? [01:19] ok i just want something easy === Pier [~Juan@93.Red-217-125-132.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] dabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz1 [01:19] dabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz2 [01:19] MidNightRaVeN: untar it into your home dir first [01:20] so then I said it right, oh no i didnt. [01:20] kk *goes to untaring* [01:20] lol [01:20] fleg: no. did you try application>sytem tools>root terminal? === Pier [~Juan@93.Red-217-125-132.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:20] ChurcH_of_FoamY: hows penguin? [01:20] nalioth: done [01:20] ...Or it could randomly work for no reason at all... === ghostdog [~daniel@c-24-99-188-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] don't know [01:21] where has he been latly? [01:21] haven't gone in there in a while cause theres some jerks in ther [01:21] GMachine_24: same deal [01:21] who? [01:21] don't know [01:21] uniq? === root________ [~root@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] MidNightRaVeN: we are working with the w32 codecs, right? [01:21] hmm. fleg i don't know what to say. [01:21] godsmoke and his cownes [01:21] I am having problems with cups, I want to add windows client drivers but no luck [01:21] crownes [01:21] GMachine_24: prompt then crash, they are all under the same "Security" system [01:21] ChurcH_of_FoamY: i'll come in one day and tell them all off :P [01:21] yea [01:22] that would be awsome [01:22] then uniq will whip out chanserv cuz he's a bitch :P [01:22] is there a log where i can find interesting clue about what is going on? [01:22] nice [01:22] lol [01:22] nalioth: dunno... it's the codecs from mplayerhq.hu [01:22] does anyone by any chance have serverguide 6.0.9 or some other version supporting Netfinity 5100? I have lost my cd and IBM only have newer versions availible for downloads :( [01:22] fleg: good question [01:22] I just installed ubuntu on my girlfriend's PC, and the wireless isn't yet working.. the website for the card that's built in says to use madwifi, but I don't know how to make the ubuntu install use madwifi [01:22] MidNightRaVeN: did you check what's _in_ the file first? [01:22] we can tell. [01:22] you are root [01:22] hahahahah === ghostdog [~daniel@c-24-99-188-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:23] MidNightRaVeN: are you sure it has the codecs, and only the codecs in them? might also have source, etc. IOW, things you don't need in /usr/lib [01:23] Danar: yea... and it has a readme that says to put all the files into /usr/local/lib/codecs [01:23] dabaR, actually, I'm booted into windows so I can get tech support without running to the back room :) [01:23] MidNightRaVeN: k [01:23] well that was weird. i almost crashed my computer. [01:23] :) [01:23] MidNightRaVeN: ok open a terminal [01:23] aterm to be exact [01:23] root________: shouldn't IRC as root [01:23] nalioth: kk, opened [01:23] hes in windows. [01:24] apparently not === liz4rd hacks root________ [01:24] Danar, it's kinda hard not to in windows.. EVERY user ir root >,.,< [01:24] MidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:24] yea he just won't leave me alone every time i go in there he makes mean jokes about me [01:24] like calling me a retard >.< [01:24] lol [01:24] yea pisses me off [01:24] awe poor you [01:24] user: ~root@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [01:25] ~root === liz4rd hacks root@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net === nxv_ [~matrix@dsl-084-056-121-221.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] ChurcH_of_FoamY: stay out [01:25] lol [01:25] you put that on purpose? [01:25] kk [01:25] :P [01:25] I wish someone would bring me ice cream. [01:25] buy slaves. [01:25] ChurcH_of_FoamY: no need to hang out with assholes, when you can hang out with us [01:26] nalioth: wierd... it says there isn't such a directory... [01:26] good point [01:26] MidNightRaVeN: thats good [01:26] ubuntu users seem to be nicer ^_^ [01:26] root________: and technically, there is no root on windows [01:26] dabaR: why buy slaves when you can find them on many places for free? :) [01:26] nalioth: o lol [01:26] MidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:26] Danar, xchat lets me fake all those responses :) === dabaR laughs at the comment [01:26] wtf #kubuntu is WAY more fun then this shit hole [01:26] :P === gbic [~chris@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:29b9] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] so......... [01:26] Anyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl? [01:26] you guys are to OMG STAY ON TOPIC [01:26] your point being? === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] root________: you're not faking your ip. anyone can change their username. it's not 'faking' it. i'm asking if you did it on purpose [01:27] liz4rd: there is a reason to that. [01:27] Danar, anyway... all users are so called super users... therefore every user is root :) [01:27] what's the topic [01:27] see you guys are doing it right now [01:27] :P [01:27] liz4rd man chill it's all cool here man === Ziggity [~ziggity@80.65.245.105] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] Danar, yes, I made all of the xchat responses come up as "root" [01:27] good [01:27] nalioth: ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:27] Password: [01:27] mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory [01:27] hands liz4rd a shot of bacardi 151 [01:27] ? [01:27] root________: no... early versions of windows have no root or admin user. later versions have admin accounts, which is similar to root, but not the same [01:27] ok i'm good now [01:27] add -r after mkdir [01:27] :P [01:28] lol [01:28] nalioth: when i browse for it... it does show up... [01:28] root________: k. just checking === liz4rd passes join to dabaR [01:28] joint* [01:28] joint* [01:28] wow, weird... [01:28] ok installed pure ftpd how to run? === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] ftpd? [01:28] MidNightRaVeN: probably better to use the address in the readme /usr/local/lib/codecs [01:28] how about I pass a ban to liz4rd :)) [01:28] i think [01:28] Can anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme? [01:28] dabaR: do it [01:28] liz4rd, when you can't spell it, it's time to stop smoking it [01:28] if it makes you feel big [01:28] ChurcH_of_FoamY: it is runing already likely. [01:28] http://www.pureftpd.org/ [01:28] root________: lol word === erikp [~epukinsk@156-56-93-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] shit then how to configure [01:29] find its config file, maybe in /etc [01:29] it looked like it had a graphical user interface [01:29] HI. I used synaptic to install wideStudio .. Buts its not in Applications->Programming and I cannot launch it using the Run menu ( using wideStudio ) anyone can Help???? [01:29] shit, why shit if it is running? [01:29] thats why i installed it [01:29] MidNightRaVeN: that's a confusing error, lol [01:29] LOL [01:29] Ziggity: have you been to the apps homepage/faqs? [01:29] i had the best error [01:29] yea lol look... [01:29] i need the pics lol [01:29] totem crashed [01:29] no reqason [01:29] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:29] ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory [01:29] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:29] ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory [01:29] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs [01:29] you rock liz [01:29] Password: [01:29] mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory [01:29] nalioth, No! [01:29] that was the error :P [01:29] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs/ [01:30] ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs/: No such file or directory [01:30] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/ [01:30] mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory [01:30] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ === UdontKnow [udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: ahem. shouldn't paste in here [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: quit pasting [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: we saw it. === muszilla [~mussgill@p213.54.83.47.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete] [01:30] sorry =X [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: I told you add a -r after the mkdir [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: use /usr/local/lib/codecs [01:30] MidNightRaVeN: there's rafb.net/paste and stuff liek that for pasting [01:30] dabaR: the flag is -p, not -r [01:30] dabaR: i gave him the wrong dir name [01:30] or do what nalioth said, taht is better. [01:30] looks through documentation to see how to turn on the gui [01:30] nalioth: is there something There? === liz4rd watches the channel fill with smoke from the pipe === judax [~judax@adsl-69-150-57-64.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] Ziggity: yes, how to use it for one === tmahoneyt11 [~chatzilla@cpe-66-67-178-236.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === bhearsum [~bhearsum@65.168.184.109] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] turn on the gui? heh... [01:31] nalioth: I cannot launch it .. Don't know where or how to from Hoary? [01:31] anyone here using an orinoco_cs card in hoary? [01:31] how can i mount my ntfs drive so that any user can access it? [01:31] liz4ed pass that shit here man ^_^ [01:31] use -o uid === mdewand [~mdewand@66-189-45-16.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] -o uid=youruid (usually 1000) === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] MidNightRaVeN: did you use tab completion? === liz4rd passes pipe to ChurcH_of_FoamY [01:32] hit's it and passes it back === old_ [~old@213.251.193.1] has joined #ubuntu === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2B692.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] liz4rd licks my toe. [01:32] Ziggity: does wide have a homepage? [01:32] haha [01:32] hahahahhaah [01:32] blows some into room O_o [01:32] hahahah [01:32] :P [01:32] lol i just love licking toes [01:32] MidNightRaVeN: type the first few chars, and hit tab, and it completes it for you [01:32] trebuchet: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically [01:32] Ziggity: have you tried typing in widestudio in a terminal? [01:32] Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu onto my PC [01:32] ? [01:32] ok some one can help me with this pure ftpd? [01:32] MidNightRaVeN: how we doing? [01:32] widestudio [01:32] Danar: yea... but now it says - r is an invalid option... is that right?? sudo mkir -r? [01:32] can someone help me set up my wireless card ? I can go boot onto the wired lan in ubuntu.. get my ass back in here fast.. but It doesn't seem to work right now [01:32] it show a picture of a gui on it's site [01:33] dabaR, Yes.. http://www.widestudio.org/EE/index.html [01:33] tmahoneyt11: boot the install cd, and follow the instructions [01:33] and i want to know how to get to that gui === liz4rd licks dabaR big toe [01:33] tmahoney: what have you tried? [01:33] It doesn't work [01:33] MidNightRaVeN: man mkdir :p [01:33] O_o [01:33] Ziggity: that was not my question, I asked something else. [01:33] Ziggity: have you been there, and read the FAQ/documentation? [01:33] and just put that crap in /etc ? [01:33] MidNightRaVeN: are you here? [01:33] oopss. [01:33] i bet widestudio in a terminal works. [01:33] nalioth: yea lol i think i figured something out... [01:34] $2(Im a high roller.) [01:34] dabaR, not in the terminal but in the 'Run Application' menu [01:34] tmahoney have you just tried booting from the ubuntu cd? [01:34] MidNightRaVeN: you do not need any -x stuff [01:34] hell [01:34] MidNightRaVeN: as you can see in 'man mkdir' there's no -r option [01:34] MidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs" [01:34] gnome 2.12 will be based on gtk 2.8! [01:34] cairo! [01:34] can i paste a two liner? [01:34] tmahoneyt11: you should check your iso images against the md5 checksum on the d/l site [01:34] MidNightRaVeN: yes [01:34] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/ [01:34] mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory [01:35] MidNightRaVeN: YOU ARE NOT LISTENING === jason [~jason@blk-222-50-94.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] lol i'm trying!!! [01:35] sudo apt-get install w32codecs [01:35] there are so many people talking!!! [01:35] what do i do with http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab ? [01:35] MidNightRaVeN: READ THIS NEXT [01:35] all the voices in my head!!!! [01:35] MidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs" === jason is now known as gnub33 [01:35] sudo apt-get install w32codecs [01:35] hey [01:35] sudo apt-get install w32codecs [01:35] i'm back. hooray. [01:35] trebuchet: execute it [01:35] nalioth: kk [01:35] looks like its a bash script so i guess i'd want to run it at startup === old_ [~old@213.251.193.1] has left #ubuntu [""] [01:35] nalioth: if you bothered to check the paste, he already did [01:36] kk... tried it and it says the file exists now [01:36] tmahoneyt11: go to where you d/l the iso image and get the md5 checksum for the image you d/l [01:36] Danar: he has "libs" not "lib" [01:36] so anyone know how to get to the gui of pure-ftpd? [01:36] Is there a way to make gaim act like msn to the point where it blinks if someone sends you a message [01:36] ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs/ [01:36] mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/codecs/': File exists [01:36] I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default????? === ono [~albertopa@cable72a133.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] nalioth: oops. my bad. didn't see that [01:36] hey.. if ubuntu can make a ubuntu livecd, why can't ubuntu make an X based ubuntu installer CD ? [01:36] MidNightRaVeN: GREAT! [01:36] How can I find Where an application has installed tO [01:36] is it possible to play 10 year old games with wine in decent speed? last time i tried on xp it was way too fast [01:36] nalioth: lol kk [01:36] MidNightRaVeN: now navigate in the terminal to the directory with your codecs in it [01:37] MidNightRaVeN: that's why tab completion helps. use it. frequently [01:37] trebuchet, that script looks harmless === ono [~albertopa@cable72a133.usuarios.retecal.es] has left #ubuntu [] [01:37] nalioth: the extracted ones? [01:37] anyone [01:37] eruin: that script was written by seveas to automates fstab entry [01:37] yup, i figured it would be, coming from ubunutulinux.org [01:37] MidNightRaVeN: yes, that directory [01:37] Danar: did the second time around and that's the only reason i figured it out ;-) [01:37] anyone know if you can do that with gaim [01:37] nalioth: kk [01:37] allit does.nl, not .org [01:38] eruin: seveas is from .nl [01:38] Anyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl? [01:38] Hi all. I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, but when I try to log in, nothing happens. I just get a dark brown screen and a cursor. The Failsafe Terminal login works, but Failsafe Gnome doesn't. Can anyone help? [01:38] I'ma boot into ubuntu and I'll be back shortly... [01:38] wsbuilder for widestudio [01:38] anyone know anything about gaim [01:38] erikp: any error msgs of any kind? [01:38] nalioth: nothing pops up. It just sits there [01:38] hahahahahahaha!!! [01:38] hmm [01:39] nalioth: kk, i'm in the folder [01:39] back to emacsing [01:39] how am i supposed to run it? === missiontomars [[U2FsdGVkX@04a653b88fb0166b.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!! [01:39] normal users don't have permission and sudo ./blah doesn't work either [01:39] MidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo cp ./* /usr/local/lib/codecs" [01:39] why someone would use such an ugly looking application escapes me. [01:39] anyone know anything about gaim [01:40] somebody please help [01:40] trebuchet: use "sudo -s" and then "sh ./win_mac>whatever" [01:40] it is a multiprotocol messaging client for Windows and Unix. [01:40] nalioth: with the asterick after /? [01:40] it is not to be spelled gAIM. [01:40] MidNightRaVeN: you are copying all files in the dir into the codecs dir. that is what the * means (all files) [01:40] MidNightRaVeN: yeh. copy & paste that [01:40] MidNightRaVeN: * is a wildcard [01:41] ctrl+p is the keybnoard shortcut for the properties window from the buddy list. [01:41] nalioth: kk, i hit enter and it just pops back to the folder again.. guessing it finished === Success [~Success@41.Red-213-96-45.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] the default icon is a yellow human like figure, resembling the AIM icon. [01:41] MidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/" [01:41] the website is gaim.sourceforge.net. DO I win anything for knowing all this about gaim? [01:42] MidNightRaVeN: usually that means success. otherwise it gives an error/info message [01:42] it's called gaim [01:42] Danar: kk === GMachine_24 [~erikm@pool-71-99-101-174.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] Danar: =) [01:42] When you use synaptic does it Install the selected packages? How can I find out where [01:42] nalioth: it listed all the codecs =D [01:42] Can anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme? i downloaded this theme from http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19506 and dont know what to do next [01:42] MidNightRaVeN: now you may remove the folder you expanded into your home directory [01:42] Ziggity: if you tell it to [01:43] MidNightRaVeN: with the codecs in it [01:43] somebody please help [01:43] I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!! [01:43] nalioth: and is that it? [01:43] dabar, how do you make it flash if you get a message [01:43] MidNightRaVeN: you are in business [01:43] I don't know if I have one unless the sound is on [01:43] w00t w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:43] thx =D =D === dcolem [~dcolem@pcp03330015pcs.mlrbrg01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] Nalioth, remember my mouse problem last night? [01:44] Aerebus: you might try http://wiki.tryphon.org/How_to_install_X11_cursors [01:44] Aerebus: I've never tried it though === ShadowRage [~Shadow@pool0503.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] Aerebus: i remember seeing you talking about it [01:44] what is the difference between ubuntu and debian [01:44] java isnt working [01:44] dcolem: US [01:44] :( [01:44] I fixed it appearently [01:44] ShadowRage: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] [01:45] the java plugin fails to load for mozilla === neza [~neza@c-67-188-205-33.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] Danar, I Did tell it to .. BUT cannot find the package and its not on the Menu? [01:45] Ziggity: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled? [01:45] I just downloaded the RPM version and alien'd it [01:45] nalioth: can xine use those codecs? [01:46] ShadowRage: bad idea [01:46] ShadowRage: use the dogs suggestion [01:46] MidNightRaVeN: any a/v app on your system will use those codecs now [01:46] using the java bin file was fairly easy.... [01:46] for install i mean [01:46] nalioth, : Yes. [01:46] Ziggity: select the package, right click on it, choose install (or upgrade), and then click apply [01:47] I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!! [01:47] ?????????????????? === gnub33 feels ignored [01:47] Ziggity: make sure you clicked apply. if you can't find it after you know it's been installed, try running it from a terminal [01:47] gnub33: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too. [01:47] Danar, : I've done that and it did its download thing. but NOW I cannot find the package to launch it.. [01:47] I have no idea what you're talking about gnub otherwise I would try to help. [01:47] nalioth: =( xine still isn't working then... === AceMan [~me@81-178-238-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] Danar: he doesnt know the command to start it [01:48] nalioth: looks like some kind of audio problem... [01:48] Danar: i've directed Ziggity to the homepage of that app to read the faq/docs [01:48] zig you d/l the bin file? [01:48] Danar, : I don't know how?? I'm new to this Linux stuff.. [01:48] gnub33: if we knew, we could help you. I expect most people in here are newbies. [01:48] Ziggity: you can either try tab completion, or check the installed files in synaptic [01:48] MidNightRaVeN: out of my league, i'm a afraid [01:48] hmm.. when i'm playing back video that works fine on my other systems the a/v sync is off on this system [01:48] nalioth: says... audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type... [01:48] Ziggity: ok. what did you install? [01:48] <|QuaD-> how come when i update/upgrade breezy, gaim isn't upgrading [01:48] nalioth: crap then... [01:48] Danar, : wideStudio [01:48] hmmmmmmmm [01:48] I think i'm a gonna try something ohter than BitchX [01:48] oh [01:48] Ziggity: and be sure to check the links nalioth pointed you to [01:48] and no, it's not irssi ;) [01:48] MidNightRaVeN: someone else may know [01:48] or Epic [01:48] erc! [01:49] erect [01:49] Razor-X: so what is it? [01:49] GMachine_24: you're going to get lynched if I told a certain group of people about that === friendly [~usendly@222.124.41.222] has joined #ubuntu === suzann [~suzann@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] Danar, : I went back and selected the build-essentials + wideStudio ( marked it for reinstallation) [01:49] anyone have a clue as to why xine is giving this error message? audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type: 01060000, etc. === suzann is now known as root________ [01:49] is there any way to enable the cups web administration interface? [01:49] trust me, emacs users are voracious enough that, if you're not burned alive then healed several times, something worse will happen to you ;) [01:49] i'll behave [01:49] Ziggity: it's likely already installed... [01:50] alright, better ? now I'm indeed in Linux, and NOT running as root :)P [01:50] :) [01:50] Danar, : Those links point to building from source.. I though synaptic took care of all that for you [01:50] Ziggity: go to the widestudio homepage and READ THE FAQ & DOCS [01:50] the video seems like its being cleaned up by the video player [01:50] yay for root [01:50] liz4rd you there? [01:50] Ziggity: try wsbuilder [01:50] nope [01:50] :P [01:50] yes whast up [01:50] when all else fails.... read the instructions [01:50] need some help can i pm you? [01:50] no read the man [01:50] :P [01:50] roflmao [01:50] ha [01:50] ChurcH_of_FoamY: for sure [01:51] =( === nalioth needs more beer [01:51] Ziggity: if you select the package in synaptic, and click Properties, you can check the Installed Files tab to see what to run. you look for files in /usr/bin usually. [01:51] I need to make my wireless card work, and I've found instructions that say "madwifi" is the way... how do I do this ? [01:51] Ziggity: wsbuilder is the most likely one you want that i see... [01:51] Danar, : : Now how did you know that [01:51] OH! [01:51] You learn something every day :-_))) [01:52] Ziggity: heh. you _should_ learn something every day ;) [01:52] anyone here know why xine says: audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type? [01:52] Ziggity: you should also be familiar with the 'man' command [01:52] oh 'man' [01:53] Danar, : Is there anyway to Add it to the Menu under programming so I dont have to type it in? [01:53] damn it [01:53] ;) === sexcopter8000m [~james@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] Ziggity: try 'man man' 'man sudo' 'man woman' ;p [01:53] MidNightRaVeN, what kind of file are you trying to listen to watch ? [01:53] the a/v synce is a few seconds off in any video i play with this system, only [01:53] MidNightRaVeN, err watch :) [01:53] Ziggity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo [01:53] Ziggity: haven't edited menus in gnome before. someone else might be more help there. or you can search for it yourself [01:53] LinuxJones: it's just a regular DVD... I've tried Gladiator, Matrix... and Master and Commander... === [MW] Shadow [~shadowrnr@adsl-219-94-108.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] mae: did you try going to http://localhost:631/admin in a web browser? [01:54] Ziggity: prolly faster to ask someone else, but you'll learn more looking it up on your own [01:54] Danar, : I'm really new to Ubuntu and Linux ,, so sorry .. [01:54] arg @ nalioth :p [01:54] erikp, yes, but i cannot login and change any settings === jessta [~jessta@203-217-52-87.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [01:54] Ziggity: np. everyone's new at some point [01:54] nalioth, : thanx [01:54] <---is perenially new [01:54] MidNightRaVeN, install gstreamer0.8-plugins [01:55] <[MW] Shadow> Gnome Desktop Manager is failing everytime i bootup into Ubuntu [01:55] whats the most widly accepted programming language for the linux platform? [01:55] french [01:55] LinuxJones: synaptic will have? [01:55] j/k [01:55] MidNightRaVeN, that should fix your sound problems with basically everything :) [01:55] LinuxJones: lol i hope so... [01:55] Ziggity: same as for others: C++ [01:55] MidNightRaVeN, you might need to add the universe and multiverse repos but see if it is there (it outta be) [01:56] Ziggity: it's an industry standard === golgor [~golgor@h59n1fls34o834.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] Ziggity: for multiple industries even [01:56] <[MW] Shadow> Does anyone have an idea why gdm keeps failing everytime i try and boot into ubuntu? [01:56] Ziggity: what got you into ubuntu/linux? === hosler [~hosler@AC8FFEEA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] How do I make my wireless network card work, it's not working yet, and I know it's supported my the "madwifi" driver, however, the ath_pci driver is getting loaded instead [01:56] mae: You probably have done a google search already, but this might be relevant: http://faq.jdshelp.org/faq/cache/166.html I'm not an expert on cups, so I can't really offer any more help than that. Maybe someone else who knows more about cups can. === ealden [~ealden@219.90.92.167] has joined #ubuntu === root [~root@24-159-171-045.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] anyone here use pure-ftpd? [01:57] Ziggity: actually, it depends on what you want to make [01:57] ChurcH_of_FoamY: ewwwww === Success [~Success@41.Red-213-96-45.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] I cant add a launcher with the gdesklet StarterBar? Did anyone have the same problem? I try to add one but it never appears. [01:58] Razor-X huh? [01:58] Ziggity: if you want to make programs in general, go with C++ or python or something. but there are others more oriented towards specific things [01:58] Razor-X is there something better thats gui based? [01:58] Danar, : can you please enlighten me on the Others.. [01:58] Ziggity: you can use whatever language you like though [01:58] recommending c++ to newbies is not recommended ;) [01:59] Ziggity: heh. enlighten yourself. head over to google.com/linux and search 'programming'. you'll find plenty [01:59] LinuxJones: .... still nothing =( it [01:59] Danar, : even for Ubuntu .. I was led to believe 'they' prefered python === dmk [~dmk@host81-156-26-148.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:59] LinuxJones: has many error messages now... [01:59] ruby is a nice language === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === HenryV [~Henry@londonderry-cuda1-69-173-163-62.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] chrissturm: what's wrong with c++ [01:59] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu === fujiko [~fujiko@cpe-68-206-254-130.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] Ziggity: the platform you develop on shouldn't matter much. you can write code on windows that will compile on linux if you make it ansi compliant (cross-platform code) [02:00] c++ apps just crash if you do something wron [02:00] i'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off [02:00] othernoob, its hard to learn how to do it right if you dont get error messages [02:00] hello, can i ask questions here regarding ubuntu? [02:00] Ziggity: the langauge(s) you learn should depend on the direction you want to go. what you want to do [02:00] chrissturm: don't most apps just crash if you fuck up when coding? [02:00] MidNightRaVeN, I will post my /etc/apt/sources.list file for you to copy give me a sec [02:00] fujiko: yes [02:01] Does anyone know how to add a launcher to the gdesklet StartBar? [02:01] othernoob: unless you make a miracly typo that _fixes_ your problem ;p [02:01] anyone know what possibly could be wrong if VLC dont play any sound (no problem with the volume) [02:01] LinuxJones: any clue why it would say that it can't find MRL? [02:01] *miracle. heh [02:01] othernoob, with ruby or python or java you get a nice stack trace with linenumbers [02:01] auk, how come whenever i do update i get an md5sum mismatch error [02:01] also when i try to install some software i get that same error === xoz [~xoz@p6009-ipad37souka.saitama.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu === daniel776 [~daniel@pc-62-30-44-12-bl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] and having a interpreter is especially useful when learning a language [02:01] Hello. === chrissturm recommends ruby [02:01] goldfish: you check both VLC's volume, and your system volume? [02:01] fujiko: haha [02:01] i'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off... anybody know how to fix this? i'm on a athlon 2500 and radeon 9200 [02:02] er, golgor, sorry [02:02] chrissturm: true true. but you could also recommend haskell if that's the main reason for choosing a language ;) [02:02] Danar, yes i have [02:02] Danar, :) [02:02] i just got htat with the latest piece of software i nstalled (or tried to) [02:02] anyone on want to guide me through installing java? i've tried reading guides but i keep getting erros =/ [02:02] golgor: got gstreamer? [02:02] treb: what video program? [02:02] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu [02:02] totem === Z0l [~z0l@wlan2k.hu] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] golgor: get audio playing it in something else? [02:02] Danar, yea [02:02] hello [02:03] golgor: to which? [02:03] Danar, audio in rhythmbox [02:03] Danar, : ultimatly 'application development' [02:03] MidNightRaVeN, >> http://pastebin.ca/17270 [02:03] anyone using gnome-bluetooth under breezy/hoary? i'm missing the "Send via bluetooth" menu from nautilus and i don't know how to make it shown === Ninwa [~joey@d14-69-38-157.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #Ubuntu [02:03] Ziggity: well, what kind of apps? in general i can recommend C++ & python. and maybe a bit of ASM (assembly) [02:03] Danar, I want to make an app that downloads a file from the web. but want to get the GUI bits in as well [02:04] Danar, to which? === wachka [~wachka@vil93-1-81-57-208-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] LinuxJones: *doing* [02:04] golgor: i meant 'yea to which question' i had asked two. the other was whether you have gstreamer [02:04] MidNightRaVeN, some stuff doesn't need to be there but it will be ok :) === TPC [tpwch@TPC-student-pdpc.love-sources] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] Razor-X what ftp program would you reccomend thats really easy for linux nubs? [02:05] LinuxJones: kk =) do I have to paste it over my current? or just add it in? [02:05] Danar, i have gstreamer... what im known of [02:05] ChurcH_of_FoamY: for them to use as clients? [02:05] MidNightRaVeN, just overwrite it [02:05] golgor: you using alsa? oss? [02:05] I've never had luck getting totem to run. [02:06] I've used videolan [02:06] heh === z1nOnly [~nick@adsl-068-016-133-021.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] with totem i get one of like a zillion messages why the dvd won't play === root________ is now known as Aarcane [02:06] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu === Coyctecm [~n1k0@a84-230-80-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] I'm having some problems with beep-media-player. If I play a file (or a stream or whatever, doesn't matter what I'm playing so its not a specific codec) sometimes the song becomes all blurred and weird. It returns to normal if I change to the next song, or pauses and resumes the song, or something similar. === quicoju [~quicoju@200.79.200.178.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [02:07] what could be wrong? === mpmc [~mpmc@cpc1-lich4-4-0-cust10.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:07] golgor: alsa? oss? esd? what? [02:07] ...are you smoking pot tpc? === blackout [~blackout@adsl-69-214-233-56.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:07] just curious.... [02:07] GMachine_24, nope [02:07] god.. It's late [02:07] Danar, alsa oss? [02:07] define "late" [02:07] i'm getting no audio in vlc [02:07] Danar, im pretty new to linux :P [02:07] where's a good ndis tutorial for ubuntu? Is there an easy way to get the ndis module for ubuntu? [02:07] golgor: what sound system? [02:07] i see the userpace utils are included [02:07] trebuchet, welcome to the club [02:08] :) [02:08] Danar, nforce2? [02:08] what's the default sound system for ubuntu? alsa? esd? === jebiga [~Gost@195.252.88.135] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] hello [02:08] haha.. I'm listening to bueaty and the beast :P === Coyctecm [~n1k0@a84-230-80-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] treb you d/l all the css files to the same folder, etc? [02:08] Danar, how to check? [02:08] golgor: that would be your chipset. i'm looking for the software you're using [02:08] Razor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes [02:08] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu [02:08] i just installed from the repos [02:08] ahh. [02:08] is it true that people of ubuntu realy send ubuntu linux to everyone who wants [02:08] Does anybody know when I can expect PHP5 to be showing up in the Ubuntu repositories? [02:08] anyone? what's ubuntu use by default? alsa or what? [02:09] jeb what? === nalioth is now known as nalioth_wrkn === SDFH_Linux [~moo@adsl-065-006-180-151.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] LinuxJones: kk, it reloaded [02:09] golgor, you can run gstreamer-properties to see what your running [02:09] jebiga: yes. shipit.ubuntulinux.org [02:09] MidNightRaVeN, ok can you load synaptic package manager ? [02:09] thanks , I will check that site [02:09] MidNightRaVeN, sorry too many beer :) [02:09] treb: i've used vlc on redhat 9 with success. === jebiga [~Gost@195.252.88.135] has left #ubuntu ["Nestao] [02:09] jebiga: order enough cds to convert your neighborhood [02:09] jebiga: free shipping too :) just ordered me some [02:09] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu === enkidu [~enkidu@pool-202-88-78-74.d10-sus.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] ... not that that does us any good here [02:09] (more) [02:10] MidNightRaVeN, enter gstreamer0.8-plugins in the search box [02:10] Danar, standard output ESD, standard source OSS [02:10] hi [02:10] LOL [02:10] welcome to paradise, enk [02:10] sorry [02:10] MidNightRaVeN, it should come up with it as a package [02:10] LinuxJones: lol np ;-) it's loaded and running? [02:10] what tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu [02:10] lol, I'm listening to something funny [02:10] LinuxJones: it did =/ and that's the one i installed before =( [02:11] LinuxJones: all the plugins are installed... =( [02:11] golgor: hrm. ok. 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd' [02:11] golgor: without quotes [02:11] Razor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes [02:11] MidNightRaVeN, I thought you didn't have it installed ? [02:11] :P === enkidu [~enkidu@pool-202-88-78-74.d10-sus.micronesiantel.net] has joined #ubuntu === allio [foobar@202-169-215-101.megapass.worldnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] hi [02:11] does anyone here use gnome mud? === kyncani [~kyncani@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-145-48.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] can anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu? [02:12] LinuxJones: lol no, i got it installed... it's that Xine keeps giving me that error... it says audio_decoder: error, unkown buffer type... [02:12] how come when I drag a window around it kinda lags and you can see multiple windows [02:12] is that something I need to shut off [02:12] hey! audio [02:12] MidNightRaVeN, argh have you installed the w32codecs package from the mplayer website ? [02:12] thanks, danar :) === liable [~linux@dialup-151.120.221.203.acc02-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === dausech [~douglas@201.10.99.50] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] ok... how can i change my initial settings on xchat [02:13] anyone here getting md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages [02:13] LinuxJones: yeh, he did [02:13] ? [02:13] the video is still jerky and the a/v sync is still off though [02:13] LOL.. Sister Act LOL [02:13] LinuxJones: i installed the package that's on the mplayer site that says Codecs... dunno if it was w32 [02:13] trebuchet: uh, for? [02:13] sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd [02:13] that got the audio working in vlc [02:13] i'm haivng md5sum error while installing pan and firefox updates [02:14] trebuchet: you are golgor ? [02:14] Please ignore me [02:14] Danar, :D [02:14] LinuxJones: gonna try Matrix again... [02:14] nope, same problem though [02:14] trebuchet: right. ok then :) [02:14] Danar, works great [02:14] MidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/w32/ directory ? [02:14] can anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu? [02:14] Danar, no im not trebuchet :P [02:14] lol [02:14] MidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/win32/ gahhhh [02:14] hello [02:14] i got that [02:14] i manually downloaded the *.deb files with md5sum error and couldn't open them [02:14] yup, so my a/v sync is still off and the video is jerky [02:15] other *.deb files open okay like an archive though === jussi [~jussi@d135207.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] LinuxJones: =X i thought it said to extra those files to /usr/local/lib/codecs? === EfaistOs [~efaistos@m239.net81-64-31.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] is there an option for the windows to act like mouse tais [02:15] Danar, you seems to know alot of stuff so i have to ask you one more thing [02:15] tails [02:15] trebuchet: crappy vid card? low ram? [02:15] could this be a problem with the servers? [02:15] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu [02:15] trebuchet: wrong driver? [02:15] radeon 9200, 512MB ddr [02:15] golgor: i know nothing ;p [02:15] Danar, i have this annoying sound all the time, higher when i move my mouse.. you know whats causing it? [02:15] LinuxJones: what's "There is no mrl." mean? [02:15] original driver on the video card, its accelerated [02:16] 512ddr? wow [02:16] Danar, you knowed more than me ;P [02:16] nice === mebaran151 [~mebaran15@c-24-126-1-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] how much u get that for? [02:16] MidNightRaVeN, to be sure open xine and look to advanced properties, there is a tab called codecs and it will tell you the path where the xtra codecs outta go. [02:16] Is there any women here? or is it all men?? looks like it. [02:16] what tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu [02:16] If I post a form, will CGI deal with it the same way? [02:16] uh... i think about $60 about a year ago [02:16] trebuchet: yeh, old card. getting the fglrx driver should help though. it's on the ATI site [02:16] byez === Z0l [~z0l@wlan2k.hu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:16] I'll take that as a yes [02:16] yeah, i know, but it still ought to work [02:16] that fglrx driver is crap [02:16] I'm goin to bed [02:17] trebuchet: er, woops. you have it? [02:17] trebuchet, is dma turned on your hard drive ? [02:17] ati still hasn't come up with better lnx drivers === GMachine_24 [~GMachine@pool-71-99-101-174.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] Problem: Add or Remove Application freezes when I run it, could someone please tell me how to fix it === dausech Anyone can tell me why the environment variables on ubuntu doesn't change ? === turks [~turks@67-42-94-201.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] how do i check if linux is using dma? [02:17] bios maybe? [02:17] trebuchet, do sudo hdparm /dev/hda === hou5ton [~hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] sometimes dma settings are in the bios [02:18] sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] trebuchet, it will say >> using_dma = 1 (on) ....if it's turned on === fujiko_ [~fujiko@cpe-68-206-254-130.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] yup, dma on [02:18] enkidu: it has hardware acceleration though === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["wuffie] [02:18] is there a channel where i someone can recommend a mud client for ubuntu? [02:18] enkidu: er, enables it anyway [02:18] Razor-X you there? [02:18] ok [02:18] jussi: use synaptic instead anyway [02:18] trebuchet, can you post the output of the command to pastebin.ca ? [02:19] I've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass [02:19] does ubuntu include any sort of ndis kernel module? [02:19] trebuchet, how mnay hard drives do you have ? [02:19] yeah, i polled both of my drives, both dma enabled [02:20] dausech: dunno about your specific problem, but after you type your pass would be when it executes the command, so it would be the command that's causing the crash [02:20] Danar: Thanks [02:20] quit [02:20] exit [02:20] bye [02:20] trebuchet, that's usually the problem with jerky video, what kind of system do you have like ram/processor ? [02:20] fujiko: try with / in front [02:20] heh [02:20] 512mb ddr, athlon 2500 [02:21] chat hmm [02:21] oops [02:21] hey are u using an LCD? [02:21] trebuchet, that's a good system === knhas [~knhas@cm28209.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] http://pastebin.ca/17272 [02:21] this pc i'm on uses an LCD and it always seems to leave a sort of trail [02:22] yup, good enough to be sure its not a problem === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] still not good enough for battlefield 2 :-p [02:22] LinuxJones: wow... the computer just totally blew up... === Mobius [~micah@ip162.192.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] cool! [02:22] lol === mcdenyer [~mcdenyer@63.228.244.212] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:23] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu [02:23] LinuxJones: i was checking in the preferences of Xine in the Audio tab.. and the whole Ubuntu system slowed to a halt in processing [02:23] LinuxJones: only thing that worked really was the mouse =X [02:23] trebuchet, hdparm -c1 /dev/hdx [02:24] i once had an old micron pc and a small roach went in somehow, it found its way to the cpu fan and that was pretty much the end of that [02:24] trebuchet, you don't have 32 bit I/O [02:24] oh [02:24] heh [02:24] so, only using half my pipe [02:24] hehe [02:24] trebuchet, it's not your fault :) [02:25] that sounds so wrong in so many ways [02:25] does it seem like when you move windows around fast that it shows multiple ones [02:25] is that a video card problem [02:25] its okay, a lot of girls have said the same already :-P [02:25] hehehe [02:25] trebuchet, heh [02:25] sometimes that is a video card prob [02:25] LinuxJones: =/ any clue? === oneleaf [~oneleaf@219.130.48.197] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] if its an ati card that's gonna be a tough one [02:26] LinuxJones: i can't find were it says it's getting the codecs from in the Xine prefences... [02:26] where do breey's packages go when they're built by the automated build system before they go into pool? === Markrian [~markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] i have an ati at home and it doesn't play nice [02:26] i.e- ubuntu's version of incoming.debian.org [02:26] MidNightRaVeN, sounds like you have some problems :D [02:27] can someone recommend a better mud client than gnome mud? [02:27] i want to get a new nvidia card... i'm thinking maybe a 6600 or 6800 [02:27] can anyone tell me what the command is for the Users and Groups tool? [02:27] LinuxJones: lol thx... [02:27] erikp, sudo users-admin [02:27] jasoncohen: thanks! [02:27] LinuxJones: i just don't understand why the audio_decoder wouldn't work... [02:27] erikp, it's in system > administration [02:28] erikp, all the gnome tools have the same naming convention- for example the network tool is network-admin [02:28] LinuxJones: will the 32bit pipe take affect only after reboot? === dausech I just wanna set a new environment variable. (set JAVA_HOME="/java/jdk150" for example). editing /etc/profile doesn't work [02:28] treb... I must have missed what you said about your comp... is the I/O support @ 32-bit? [02:28] MidNightRaVeN, if your sound is working ok and you have the dvd decoding software installed and the associated codecs you whould be ok. You have the decss decoding software properly installed ? [02:28] list #channel [02:28] hmm [02:28] I've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass at login [02:29] LinuxJones: decss?? [02:29] jasoncohen: I don't have a panel... I just installed ubuntu, but I can't log in to a normal gnome session, only the failsafe terminal. And I can't run any gnome apps. Something with gnome is hosed. === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] it wasn't, but it is now [02:29] erikp, damn, is it with all users? maybe your user account is screwed up [02:29] have you tried creating a new user? [02:29] ok === dausech I never had this issue in debian... [02:29] anyone know where i can find sim city for linux? [02:29] jasoncohen: I haven't tried... one sec. [02:29] i think it had an effect on the video playback but i'm not so sure === Razor-X [~user@user-11fa6cm.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] jasoncohen: (this was after a fresh install though, so I doubt it will matter.. but I'll try) === quicoju [~quicoju@200.79.200.178.cableonline.com.mx] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:30] well, i'm going to reboot and mess with my bios settings and see if i can get totem to work. === NoHope [silas@201-1-147-14.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] hi all [02:30] this'll take some getting used to, compared to BitchX [02:30] I installed Ubuntu, but I'm having problems... [02:30] but everything's in one, happy, convenienient environment ;) === Vinh [~Vinh@ppp214-110.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] trebuchet, you can add it to a script [02:31] NoHope: shoot [02:31] Razor-X, what irc client are you using now? [02:31] I modified the xorg.conf and hadn't made a backup. [02:31] jasoncohen: erc [02:31] what program do you guys reccomend for DVD playback [02:31] jasoncohen, XChat, by Windows. [02:31] when i try to open music player it tells me i can't [02:31] NoHope: I think he was addressing me ;) [02:31] jasoncohen, sorry, message wrong. [02:31] ah, the windows xchat client has aspell support. i wonder when the linux client will get that === trinidad [~trinidad@cpe-66-27-201-23.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] Razor-X, no problem. [02:31] it says something about gst-register [02:31] add what to a script? setting the drives to 32bit? [02:31] jasoncohen: I'll bet you could compile that in [02:31] NoHope: what's the problem with Ubuntu? [02:32] Razor-X, how? [02:32] Razor-X, I modified the xorg.conf and I don't know how to return to the default. [02:32] jasoncohen: compilation, that's how [02:32] jasoncohen: nope, I just added a new user and tried to log in, but I just get a dark ground screen with a cursor. The panel, nautilus, etc fail to start. No error messages; nothing. [02:32] Razor-X, and I see there is no adsl-setup... [02:32] erikp, do you have permission problems? [02:32] Razor-X, how to connect to the internet? [02:32] NoHope: is there an xorg.bak, or xorg.conf~ or something? [02:32] erikp, are you out of space on your HD? df -h [02:32] Ubuntu is great IMHO! I have completely switched over, however, I am still looking for add-ons to xchat which do similar things that xdccklipper does for mIRC in Windows. Can anyone recommend anything? [02:33] try calling adsl-setup from a terminal [02:33] mIRC.... *shudders* === Kentoo [~kentoo@host18-97.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] trinidad, Check xchat.org 's plugin list. [02:33] Razor-X, uhm... I didn't realize that... I will see when I return to Linux... well... and about internet? How to connect? [02:33] jasoncohen: no, it's a new 80gig drive with just Ubuntu on it. === efaistos_ [~efaistos@m239.net81-64-31.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] jasoncohen: what kind of permission problems? [02:33] trindad what os did you use before? [02:33] I couldn't stand mIRC the first time I saw it, HydraIRC is my favorite GUI client on all platforms, if I was stuck on GUI, i'ld use WINE to run HydraIRC [02:33] windows, then SuSE [02:33] erikp, like, something you need to read or write to is owned by root [02:34] that should have been fixed by creating a new user though [02:34] you said this is from a fresh install? [02:34] when i open music player or CD player i get an error saying that their is no registery and i should run gst-register [02:34] MidNightRaVeN, you need libdvdcss2 it's an decryption library that enables you to watch copy-protected dvd's [02:34] NoHope: like I said, you can call adsl-setup from the terminal [02:34] you like ubuntu better than suse [02:34] jasoncohen: yeah, I just installed in on an empty hdd [02:34] Razor-X, but there is no adsl-setup... [02:34] SDFH_Linux: yes I do [02:34] NoHope: you mean, in the menus? [02:34] erikp, make sure you have space on your HD. if / is full, you can get weird problems like this === tiglionabbit [~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] erikp, what does df -h show for / [02:34] the menus don't dictate everything on the machine, by far ;) [02:34] SDFH_Linux, too many issues with SuSE and my sound card [02:34] just curious what made you get off windows? [02:34] Razor-X, menus? I didn't see that... [02:34] hey tiglionabbit ;) [02:34] Well, I will try and them I return here... thx1 [02:34] NoHope: wait, there's no X? [02:35] as in, no GUI? [02:35] tiglionabbit: I've switched from BitchX === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu === The_Vox [~vox@cablelink44-108.intercable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] Razor-X: really? [02:35] Razor-X, there was, but I modified xorg.conf and couldn't enter no more. [02:35] SDFH_Linux, Because I got bored and then scared from all the pirate software I had. === Discipulus [~disc@main167.ppp.rockriver.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] tiglionabbit: not to irssi, mind you [02:35] see ya! thx! [02:35] LinuxJones: [:-( === NoHope [silas@201-1-147-14.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [02:35] what were you scared of? [02:35] i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci [02:35] jasoncohen: dd -h says I have 67 gigs free on / [02:35] Razor-X: aw, why not? What did you switch to? [02:35] LinuxJones: *sigh* Xine blew ubuntu up again... [02:35] trinidad: I used to be scared of illegal software too... when I was 8 ;) [02:36] tiglionabbit: erc [02:36] erikp, heh, i gues it's not that [02:36] (df, rather) [02:36] LinuxJones: is there anyway to "Uninstall" it per se? [02:36] MidNightRaVeN, goto www.ubuntuguide.org and have a peek. [02:36] erikp, what errors do you get? [02:36] MidNightRaVeN: sudo apt-get remove xine [02:36] MidNightRaVeN: apt-get remove [02:36] and good riddance to it ;) [02:36] !vlc [02:36] jasoncohen: none... it's really wierd. [02:36] from memory, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively. [02:36] thx =) === dausech [~douglas@201.10.99.50] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [02:36] erikp, you could try starting gnome directly from a console (after killing gdm) with gnome-session [02:36] jasoncohen: I just get a blank brown screen. And when I try to start GNOME apps nothing happens. [02:36] that's what I reccomend, meself, and I rarely reccomend GUI apps [02:36] SDFH_Linux, "scared" may be to harsh. Rather, I felt guilty. When I learned that every and anything ever produced for Windows could be found and cracked, I got addicted to doing it. [02:37] !info vlc [02:37] SDFH_Linux, too easy [02:37] vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB [02:37] jasoncohen: do I just do killall gdm? [02:37] trinidad: I don't quite understand your logic === Lufusol [Lufusol@c-24-63-108-196.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] tiglionabbit: hmmm, never saw that [02:37] erikp, ctrl -alt - f1 , sudo killall gdm [02:37] well I gotta go, brb [02:37] erikp, then gnome-session [02:37] I feel guilty because I don't pay [02:37] wow, BitchX has given me a muscle memory for tab-complete, backspace, type colon === wayne_ [~wayne@adsl-223-42-113.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] and it's hard to break out of that in erc, which auto does that for you [02:37] Interesting... grub keeps .. forgetting what it's supposed to load [02:37] I don't contribute to the coder who earns his money through coding [02:37] trinidad: you've fallen to the light side [02:37] so I moved to free software [02:37] :) [02:38] is anyone else having problems with grub after a clean install? [02:38] I have a family Razor-X, I understand the need to earn money. [02:38] i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci [02:38] and? ;) [02:38] ;) [02:38] I think you know what I mean [02:38] well you will notice trinidad that its much more stable [02:38] even if I don't have the former, and I don't need the latter, it's not going to stop me for working for my math Ph.D.... or the software [02:38] ;) === ScislaC [~scislac@ip68-2-249-199.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] jasoncohen: I do have a ton of gdmplay and aplay processes... like 10 of each, and ps -Al says the gdmplay processes are on WAIT... not sure if that means anything. [02:39] brb [02:39] I must say that pirating software has gotten me to where I am today as far as familiarity with software I use at work [02:39] after you "uninstall" it... should it say "Package xine is not installed, so not removed"? Or should it say it's removing the package? === nalioth_wrkn is now known as nalioth [02:39] In that respect, I appreciate the underground "scene" [02:40] back === daniel776 [~daniel@pc-62-30-44-12-bl.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:40] ya know that? [02:40] what i like a lot in linux is that there isnt so much advertising and such [02:40] Without them providing the software, I could have ended up dead. I'm from L.A., ex gang-banger, turned engineer [02:40] :) [02:40] I think i'm going to maximize me Eterm to the whole desktop [02:40] on the programs [02:40] gaim has none [02:40] SDFH_Linux: that's because of the open mentaility === xoz [~xoz@p6009-ipad37souka.saitama.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] ahhh, that feels nice === Zodiac [~nicholas@69-161-72-233.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] a nice, open, wide terminal [02:40] jasoncohen: when I start gnome-session I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [02:40] albeit, my background picture a tad bit stretched [02:40] Razor-X: why not maximize it to cover your head? [02:40] i'll just get a different one, a larger one [02:41] nalioth: nope [02:41] with emacs, like, everything I do is now in terminal [02:41] and my screen is shared with two channel [02:41] *channels [02:41] Nice talking with you all... [02:41] I'll be back from time to time for support if I need it [02:41] why won't it uninstall xine =( ? [02:41] Thank you all [02:41] Later [02:41] MidNightRaVeN: what's the error? [02:42] nothing... it just says it isn't installed so it can't uninstall it... and i can still run xine through Run Application [02:42] hmmm.... [02:42] then delete xine ;) [02:42] locate xine [02:42] lol but where would it be? === Quentusrex [~chatzilla@c-67-160-91-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] XDDD [02:43] goes to build a windows 98 machene just for his old games >.< [02:43] no no no, type that in a terminal === socomm [~socomm@68.121.46.150] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] The default session manager won't let me select KDE [02:43] how to I change this? [02:43] and it'll find the directory that xine is located in [02:43] when I log in and try to choose something other than Gnome, there are no other choices. [02:43] Quentusrex, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [02:43] Razor-X what kinda ftp would you recommend for nubs? [02:43] and yes it's for a lan === edgardo [~edgardo@OL103-152.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] What if I wanted to use something other than KDE? or Gnome? like xfce? [02:44] ftp client? [02:44] Hola! [02:44] Quentusrex, sudo apt-get install xfce4 [02:44] Razor-X: =/ I found it... how do i get rid of it? [02:44] well i want a server on here [02:44] ok [02:44] MidNightRaVeN: rm /path/to/xine [02:45] something easy to use and simple to set up === schasi_ [~schasi@p54A27AF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] hey guys [02:45] hi ^_^ === p8ntballer100822 [~p8ntballe@dpc674588192.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] I'm at debconf5 right now :) [02:45] ChurcH_of_FoamY: lemme see mine, hold on [02:45] k [02:45] Mark Shuttleworth is here :) === tmahoneyt11 [~chatzilla@cpe-66-67-178-236.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] is in here? [02:45] Aerebus: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [02:46] no, as in, Debconf, the debian conference [02:46] Razor-X: lol but when i located it, it came up with other stuff that isn't xine as well... so will it delete all of that? [02:46] i just built this driver for my a/v card... no build error, then when i do make install i get some problems: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister [02:46] toresbe, where ? [02:46] LinuxJones: Finland [02:46] oh [02:46] I'm going to be filming a talk he's giving [02:46] toresbe, no fool who is he :D [02:46] what is the best way to install a DNS server on ubuntu? [02:46] damn i wanted to meet him and thank him for sponsering such an awsome os ^_^ [02:46] hey im trying to install mysql onto my apache server but when i try to do sudo apt-get install php4-mysql it says pakage not found is there somewhere else i could get the pakage [02:46] Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop? === admx [~admx@c-67-191-132-114.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] LinuxJones: ...the owner of Canonical software.. [02:46] ChurcH_of_FoamY: vsftpd [02:47] LinuxJones: he started, and owns, Ubuntu [02:47] Linux used to live in my neighborhood ;) [02:47] Hay lguien que hable epal? [02:47] toresbe, lol what is his irc name :) [02:47] toresbe let him no i said thanx for the great os [02:47] ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you want to talk to mr shuttlesworth read the community part of the wiki [02:47] cool [02:47] edgardo: en el #ubuntu-es por favor [02:47] Can one really own FOSS? [02:47] =( =( =( [02:47] indirectly, sure [02:47] edgardo: /join #ubuntu-es [02:47] LinuxJones: He is not on IRC, presumably === trung [~trung@203.113.161.43] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] hey i cant install mysql into apache!! it says the pakage isnt there [02:48] Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop? [02:48] could anybody help [02:48] hi [02:48] toresbe, damn I thought you meant he was in irc not debconf :D [02:48] tmahoneyt11: help with what? [02:48] how turn off autoupdate? [02:48] Gracias a todos Hasta pronto! === schasi_ is now known as schasi [02:48] naloith: I can't seemto make a proper Install Disk === tommyg1 [~tommyg@cpe-24-194-100-255.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] Anyway, I'm preparing the laptop that the speakers will be using. [02:48] LinuxJones: By 'here' I think he meant that the man was in his home town. === blackout [~blackout@adsl-69-214-233-56.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] tmahoneyt11: have you checked the md5 sums? [02:49] *blegh* i can't get xine to uninstall and I'm afraid that if I do rm /path/to/xine, that it's going to destroy the other stuff that has the word xine in it.... [02:49] And to get an output on the video projector I need to get TV out on the intel chip [02:49] In toresbe hometown. [02:49] is there an eta on when some of the MD5 sum issues will be fixed? I've had issues downloading libgcrypt-dev and ldap-utils [02:49] Geez now I'm confused. [02:49] can anybody help... is it just me but when i try to install mysql into apache is says pakage not found. [02:49] Well I finally found some decent documentation for GRUB and now that i "get it" i don't like it at all. Time to go back to lilo :P [02:49] or this is a pretty standard ubuntu problem? [02:49] Razor-X and how do i run it? [02:49] Lufusol: lol! [02:49] socomm, I missed the line before >> toresbe Mark Shuttleworth is here :) [02:49] MidNightRaVeN: it won't === NoHope [silas@200-207-67-212.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] ChurcH_of_FoamY: /path/to/vsftp start ;0 [02:49] hi all [02:49] *;) [02:50] 128MB is not enough for ubuntu? [02:50] kk === omaru [~omaru@200.79.211.114] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] Razor-X: kk =D as long as it doesn't lol I'm happy [02:50] trung: .................. [02:50] trung: It should be enough. [02:50] trung: your average OS uses 10 GB [02:50] Razor-X, I fixed X, but It still without internet. [02:50] socomm: uh..... wha? [02:50] NoHope: tried to run adsl from the terminal? [02:50] blackout: the repos are wonky today [02:50] i need help with installing mysql into apache could anybody help... it says package not found. [02:50] Razor-X, but there is no adsl. [02:50] 128 MB should be enough memory to run Ubuntu. [02:51] its says could not find package [02:51] Razor-X, strange... [02:51] nalioth, glad to hear it's not a standard thing - this is my first day with ubuntu? [02:51] blackout: edit the us. off of the front of your us.archive.ubuntu lines in your sources.list and youll be fine [02:51] Razor-X, no adsl-setup [02:51] NoHope: there's a commandline method too... i'm forgetting [02:51] Razor-X, my computer is abit slowly (as FF needs 30mins not starting) [02:51] socomm: ahhh, I was assuming HDD space [02:51] blackout, or use this one [02:51] blackout: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [02:51] can anybody help dammit? [02:51] it says package not found [02:51] People, I have no adsl-setup on my Ubuntu. How to connect to the internet? [02:51] Well most modern distros require 3GB or more for a full installation. [02:51] p8ntballer100822: patience [02:52] p8ntballer100822: you left b4 i could answer you b4 [02:52] p8ntballer100822: what is it now? === surly [~surly@user-0ce2ksl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] NoHope: you use PPPoE? [02:52] Razor-X, yap. [02:52] when im trying to install mysql into apache is says package not found [02:52] im wondering if i can get it somewhere sle [02:52] else* [02:52] can someone show p8ntballer100822 the backports URLs with LAMP in them? [02:53] NoHope: you should use a router (much easier for any OS, trust me), but google for some help with that [02:53] p8ntballer100822: only use these URLs for mysql, then comment them out until you need something else [02:53] Help... a MD5Sum was mismatched [02:53] Razor-X, But I'm not connected to a LAN... [02:53] Quentusrex: the repos are down [02:53] ?? im using the ubuntu guide === nalioth gives up === [koji] [~[koji] @host-67-128-166-59.entouch.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:53] NoHope: does it matter? ;) [02:53] Quentusrex: Redownload the ISO. [02:53] !ubguide [02:53] I heard ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3) [02:53] nalioth, wonderous - thanks. that worked just fine [02:53] I want to install xfce4 [02:53] p8ntballer100822: your first mistake [02:54] damnit i can't find the path to it [02:54] Razor-X, I thought router only existed on a LAN... [02:54] Razor-X: it says that /path/to/xine doesn't exist [02:54] What is the best player for DVD playback? [02:54] Totem Xine? [02:54] people, i need the URLs to the backports that have LAMPs [02:54] Razor-X: but Xine still works fine... [02:54] Zodiac, GXine [02:54] what do i need to fix this build error?: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister [02:54] If the repo's are down. How do I install xfce4? [02:54] How do I get it? [02:54] y'all know mysql, and those other 3 things that make up LAMPs [02:54] Is it in the guide? [02:55] what... am i not supposed to use the user guide..? [02:55] Zodiac, sudo apt-get install gxine [02:55] Quentusrex: they aren't down [02:55] Zodiac, the guide is terrible, don't use it [02:55] Quentusrex: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [02:55] remove the "us." from all your repos [02:55] Quentusrex: use those repos === Kentoo is away: I'm currently away, please leave a message [02:55] damn [02:55] Kentoo: can you turn that off please? === liable [~linux@dialup-151.188.220.203.acc01-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] anywhere else to dl mysql for apache [02:55] haha, erc doesen't auto-away [02:56] http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ <--- very cool stuff :) [02:56] which means, I won't be away forever anymore! muahahahahaha! [02:56] anyone familiar with apache? [02:56] Razor-X: you using erc? [02:56] The_Vox: yeah [02:56] p8ntballer100822: i'm tryin to find out for you [02:56] the scrolling input line takes a little getting used to, though [02:56] ok [02:56] Razor-X: any clue why I can't get rid of that file?? rm /path/to/xine didn't do anything... [02:56] thanks [02:56] p8ntballer100822: be patient [02:56] Razor-X: that's the one thing I don't do in emacs....erc drives me crazy [02:56] MidNightRaVeN: did you literally type in /path/to/xine ? === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] The_Vox: hah [02:57] ok I did the apt-get gxine [02:57] Now what? === quidam [~quidam@200.90.75.64] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] Zodiac: why do you want xine? [02:57] Razor-X: and the other emacs irc clients all suck planets through capillary straws...so I use xchat :) [02:57] yea... i'll try again =/ [02:57] !vlc [02:57] rumour has it, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively. [02:57] !info vlc [02:57] vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB [02:57] Razor-X, well... a router is a computer which share internet with other computers, isn't it? [02:57] DUNNO.... [02:57] The_Vox: I used BitchX previously [02:57] NoHope: not just [02:57] Razor-X: BX is sooo 80's lol! I stoped using BX long ago :) [02:57] i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci [02:57] MidNightRaVeN: ............ [02:57] Also.. [02:57] The_Vox: I do almost everything in command-line [02:58] is ther4e a 64bit kernel for SMP systems? I have 2 processors and 2 gigs ram.... TIA :) [02:58] my emacs is terminal-only, no xemacs crap [02:58] Razor-X: moved to epic, then tried erc for a while, then to xchat [02:58] What packages do I need for mp3 playback> [02:58] ? [02:58] p8ntballer100822: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [02:58] has anyone here gotten md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages? [02:58] Razor-X, I can't find information at google... [02:58] depends on what player you use Zodiac [02:58] Razor-X: I use emacs on X....nothing beats X for keeping 50 terminals open :) [02:58] BeefTube: yes there is, apt-cache search linux and look through the kernels === matt_ [~matt@72.1.70.98] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] Razor-X: ravencorp@reavencorp:/$ sudo rm /path/to/xine/ [02:58] rm: cannot remove `/path/to/xine/': No such file or directory [02:58] ok cool 8) [02:58] thanks [02:58] The_Vox: X is overrated ;) [02:58] What is the best player? [02:58] I use X.... but not X specifically [02:59] Zodiac: VLC [02:59] winamp under WINE LOL [02:59] BeefTube: no way [02:59] jokeing === vgui [~iyu9p@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] Razor-X: I said that for many years...but I like to have a pretty bound woman as my wallpaper, which is a PITA to do on console :) === owlmanatt [~owlmanatt@64.252.23.88] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:59] i'm assuming you don't mean bound as in 'in bondage' [02:59] because if you do.... *cough* [02:59] hi [02:59] and I have a nice terminal background meself [02:59] MidNightRaVeN, so it deleted before [02:59] anyone familiar with apache? [02:59] i'm having problems enabling DRI in X [02:59] Okay how do I go about getting it? [02:59] i need help [02:59] which did hamper my productiity for a while [02:59] anybody know anything about that === BeefTube binds his heys and mounts hus hard disk [03:00] Razor-X: uhm...do a /whois on me, it should answer your q :) [03:00] what is the best program to log into another linux machine? [03:00] ssh [03:00] vnc, maybe? [03:00] MidNightRaVeN, ah change 'path/to' to a real path :) [03:00] ssh [03:00] how do I install VLC [03:00] sudo apt-get install vlc [03:00] Zodiac: sudo aptitude install vlc [03:00] `apt-get install vlc' [03:00] md5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone?? [03:00] Zodiac, use your packagemanager [03:00] The_Vox: I tend not to tell others about aptitude [03:00] or as socomm says [03:00] SDFH_Linux: sswh [03:00] shicracp [03:00] SDFH_Linux: ssh [03:00] only because people get confused on occasion [03:01] trung: lol o [03:01] apache anyone? [03:01] do you have to setup something on the other linux box for it to let you in? [03:01] Granted that you got all repos enabled on your /etc/apt/sources.lst [03:01] Well... [03:01] SDFH_Linux: You'll need a ssh client. [03:01] SDFH_Linux: do you have SSH setup? [03:01] golgor: i've installe dapache === BeefTube [~I_like@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] Razor-X: I'm instilling on myself the habit of using aptitude, so I try to forget apt exists lol! [03:01] with VLC, what package will allow mp3 playback? [03:01] it's not gonna be like OMG, there's a computer next to me... I love you! [03:01] i dont think i do [03:02] MidNightRaVeN, why o? [03:02] The_Vox: I've already done that [03:02] have ssh setup [03:02] trung: cuz lol i thought i was just suppose to literally put /path/to/xine in there [03:02] !restricted [03:02] restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [03:02] Zodiac: Follow the link above. [03:02] socomm: why are you insisting he use xine? [03:02] Razor-X: I've been using ubuntu for 5 days...spent 5 years doing "urpmi this" :) [03:02] auk, query [03:02] SDFH_Linux: every ubuntu install has ssh [03:02] VLC is far superior [03:02] k === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-66-75-240-213.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] golgor: huh? [03:03] SDFH_Linux: do you have sshd setup on the other machine? [03:03] dont think so [03:03] let me check [03:03] I'm more of a mplayer man. [03:03] cplay meself === The_Vox prefers xine.... [03:03] although, I may switch to emms [03:03] cplay+vlc, may switch to emms, rather [03:03] is it legal for me to advertize Free ubuntu Linux ..... and have client just pay me for the time to install it? I will let them know it is free and that they can do it by themselves if they want to... TIA [03:03] if I do, I won't need screen any longer [03:03] it'll feel weird [03:04] MidNightRaVeN, ok :) [03:04] hehehe [03:04] BeefTube: yes, it is [03:04] Zodiac: xmms is good for mp3s. it has mp3 capability built in [03:04] BeefTube: you may be paid for your professional support services regarding linux [03:04] anyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great === jtan325_ [~jtan325@D-128-208-151-59.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] BeefTube: Yes, as long as you don't charge for the software. [03:04] Cool... I will be sure to show them how to donate too if they like it 8) [03:04] i've used screen for so long... it's become reflex [03:04] vlc & xine are more for videos [03:04] md5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone?? [03:04] You could always charge for support and the media, also labor. [03:04] Etc, etc ... [03:04] BeefTube: that's what I live of...installing/configuring/admin'ing linux for SMEs [03:04] woooooiiii [03:04] cool! [03:05] Cool :) [03:05] socomm: what is the media charge? .05$? lol [03:05] auk: repos are wonky [03:05] Zodiac: xmms is like winamp [03:05] auk: use the dogs [03:05] I am going to save the world, 1 linux install at a time 8) [03:05] auk: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [03:05] socomm: it's like Vanderbilt [03:05] trung: any clue what the path for xine might look like? cuz I'm not sure... [03:05] free boat ride... but you have to pay for lunch === jtan325 [~jtan325@D-128-208-151-59.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] BeefTube: heh. good luck. :) [03:05] MidNightRaVeN: open a terminal [03:05] MidNightRaVeN: type "which xine" [03:05] thanks [03:06] nalioth: opened [03:06] free Linux... i'm changing youfor air breathed, time taken, anxiety caused, eye-fluid usage, etc. [03:06] BeefTube: might want to go with mass deployment though ;p === fossa [~nate@cpe-024-211-184-141.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] nalioths_dog: that sources.list is mine [03:06] hi [03:06] Razor-X: thats windows charges [03:06] heh... I will clone myself 8) [03:06] and fujiko's [03:06] i'm having a problem with a sed command. can someone help? [03:06] nalioth: ahhhh === jtgameover [~jtgameove@D-128-208-151-59.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] auk: you are not using us.archive.blah? [03:06] nalioth: how does it know that.... === bigfoot1 [~hideseek@FLH1Abb048.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] MidNightRaVeN: it's smart [03:06] can i in some way check if there is anything using certain ports from my comp? [03:06] setenv CNS_ARCH `echo ${CNS_ARCH} | sed -e 's/_g77//g'` [03:07] and it returns with an error, sed: -e expression #1, char 11: Invalid range end [03:07] Anyone here know how to set up the i810 driver for tv out? [03:07] how do i know how much memory a program takes when I run it? [03:07] why doesn't xmms seem to remember its skin and settings every time i log in? [03:07] bigfoot1: use top [03:07] so how i setup sshd [03:07] naliopth; yes, i am! [03:07] bigfoot1: from a terminal [03:07] whats the easiest way to change file associations? [03:07] advertizement will say something like " free Ubuntu linux with every geek rental.... " [03:07] BeefTube: step 1 - pwn lots of boxes & turn them into zombies. step 2 - install linux on them. step 3 - use them to pwn every other win-box and put linux on it. step 4 - ? step 5 - profit? [03:07] Jimbob: cuz it sucks ;) [03:07] auk: then take a closer look at the link the dog sent you [03:07] jtgameover: Perhaps you got the wrong persmissions set on your .xmms [03:07] Beep-Media-Player is better for Winamp-ness === Thorrn4 [~Thorrn4@pool-141-150-49-236.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] ~/.xmms [03:08] hello all!! [03:08] howdie [03:08] hi [03:08] nalioth, will top compare the difference between XMMS and Rythymbox? I'd like to know which takes up less memory. [03:08] oh [03:08] This usually happens when you run .xmms as a different user for the first time, I'm guessing your ran it as sudo and thus the super user owns .xmms not you. [03:08] I LOVE UBUNTU! [03:08] hmmmm === BeefTube huggs his ubuntu [03:08] Discipulus: hahaha, so do we all [03:08] nalioth: is /usr/bin/xine the right file to remove to get rid of xine totally? [03:08] iwill check it out, thank you [03:08] I love my emacs too [03:09] xmms ownz beep-whatever :p === Razor-X hugs his emacs [03:09] MidNightRaVeN: why do you want to get rid of it? [03:09] Danar: the latter is based off the former [03:09] uh oh [03:09] Danar: bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms [03:09] nalioth: because he feels it useless [03:09] it says "sudo: unable to lookup tanpc via gethostbyname()" [03:09] actually, i haven't used it :p [03:09] earlier i did "sudo hostname tanpc" [03:09] nalioth: it's more than that [03:09] nalioth: *sigh*.... it keeps stalling the system and won't play the DVDS... i was thinking of trying to uninstall it and try a different media player === SloMoSnail [~slomo@p5487C791.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] but i like xmms... [03:09] because my hostname was something obscure [03:10] Danar: many people use non-standard things in Linux [03:10] especialy power users [03:10] MidNightRaVeN: so install totem-gstreamer, and leave the poor xine binary alone [03:10] nalioth, if bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms, what is xmms itself? [03:10] MidNightRaVeN: you know... in Linux you don't have to uninstall it [03:10] bigfoot1: gtk1 era, i expect [03:10] Razor-X: why though? [03:10] cpu graph? [03:10] xmms is like free winamp.. for linux [03:11] no wait, that's processing not ram [03:11] MidNightRaVeN: because, you don't ;) [03:11] and ubuntu hoary is gtk2? [03:11] nalioth: it's much more than just gtk2 xmms [03:11] Razor-X: lol [03:11] bigfoot1: the current gnome uses gtk2, yes === Thorrn4 [~Thorrn4@pool-141-150-49-236.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["adios] [03:11] Razor-X: i heard you the first time [03:11] Danar, if xmms is like free winamp, then what is beep media player like? [03:11] Razor-X: i use laymans terms quite a bit in here [03:11] nalioth: heh [03:11] ok ok [03:11] Razor-X: simplified explanations [03:12] Razor-X: we are not all as smart as you [03:12] I generally try and do the bloddy exposition === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-174-207.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] damn, in order to restore hoary's version of libgcc1 after using backports, a user would have to uninstall most of gnome as well as evolution, openoffice.org2, mozilla, mozilla-firefox, abiword etc. (379 MB in all). [03:12] you understand what you will [03:12] *bloody [03:12] so much for not backporting libraries - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=246867#post246867 === pink-hippo [~pink-hipp@CPE000f6690f692-CM00080d881284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] hmmm, it's getting hard to manage two conversation panes [03:12] backports mozilla-firefox & mozilla-browser depend on libgcc1 4.0.0-7 which isn't in hoary. that's the cause of the issue [03:13] Razor-X: so open a couple more === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-46-118.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] I generally manage quite a few, but not split in one screen === golgor [~golgor@h59n1fls34o834.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] p8ntballer100822: are you here? [03:13] p8ntballer100822: read what jasoncohen said above re backports [03:13] if you had the choice between an .mp3 stream and a .ogg stream, which would you take? [03:13] Razor-X: sounds like you need a 42" plasma with dvi input, then [03:14] nalioth: yes, I do [03:14] bigfoot1: oggs are f/oss [03:14] kk.... so totem-gstream is already installed... do i use just regular totem then to play dvds [03:14] it plays .dvi files natively? ;) [03:14] ? === TPC [tpwch@TPC-student-pdpc.love-sources] has left #ubuntu ["leaving"] [03:14] nalioth: those reps worked to install "pan", while my previous ones did not--what are the "official" reps? [03:14] does Ubuntu have cedega in the apt repository? [03:14] MidNightRaVeN: you only have 'regular totem' [03:14] BeefTube, apt-cache search cedega [03:14] ok I will try, thanks === iceraven [~iceraven@dsl-202-173-158-141.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] for firefox users here, do you find that after some hours, fx runs slowly, and you'd have to restart it to get it back running smoothly? [03:15] nalioth: it says in Synaptic that it is already installed though... [03:15] yeah [03:15] auk: when you use archive.ubuntu.com, it hands you off to the next random official server such as gb.archvie.blah === pink-hippo [~pink-hipp@CPE000f6690f692-CM00080d881284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] it's called "OMG I LOVE YOUR RAM" syndrome [03:15] BeefTube: Nope. [03:15] one of the reasons I switched from Firefox ;) [03:15] ok [03:15] BeefTube, no. Cedega is proprietary software, based on WineX. [03:15] nalioth: is there a certain way to run it? [03:15] Cedega charges a subscription charge to download it's sofware. [03:15] oh! [03:15] bigfoot1: firefox has major memory holes, use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase instead [03:15] I thought we could compile it for personel use === jtan325 [~jtgameove@D-128-208-151-181.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] but why would the default reps form install not be correct? [03:15] i will just buy it [03:15] MidNightRaVeN: when you call totem, it will run totem-gstreamer === Markrian [~markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] for streaming ogg audio, which program do you guys use/recommend? I have rythymbox, gmplayer (which i feel sucks!), and xmms, etc. [03:16] what is the correct way to change my hostname? [03:16] nalioth: * [03:16] God I love Ubuntu === scorpix_ [~scorpix@as17-146.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] nalioth, what do you mean memory holes? [03:16] auk: they are correct, but the US repos are whangered today [03:16] Zodiac: hah [03:16] damn it [03:16] bigfoot1: VLC [03:16] ah ha! [03:16] VLC streaming is incredibly [03:16] uh oh [03:16] nalioth, and will these holes be fixed in the next version of ubuntu? [03:16] actually, that was the original reason for VLCs inception, streaming [03:16] bigfoot1: it 'leaks' memory [03:16] I think I messed my DVD playback up [03:16] VideoLan Client [03:16] BeefTube: One could compile winex, however cedega is not too hot on people redistributing it's software. [03:16] bigfoot1: they're not that kind of hole [03:16] nalioth, leak? [03:16] Hence the reason why you'll never fine winex on any repos. [03:16] yikes! [03:16] bigfoot1: holes in code where memory stays allocated even if not used [03:17] how can so many people quite at the same time+ === Danar [~User@3c8d7727e41decd1.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu === Exposure [~exposure@a80-126-234-67.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] ? [03:17] Netsplit [03:17] what is that? [03:17] Hah, netsplit. [03:17] yeah, it's a netsplit [03:17] yea ok :) [03:17] what's a netspliT? [03:17] yea =/ === langolier [~obligator@c-67-169-105-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] bigfoot1: wikipedia [03:17] MidNightRaVeN: two different irc-servers looses link with each other === ColonelKernel [ishai@24-182-1-194.bb-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] it's when the router connecting two servers or a server chain and a server dies [03:17] bigfoot1: i'm not so technical to expain it, just use an alternative gecko based browser such as the ones i listed above [03:17] where can I get the source to winex? [03:17] <[koji] > *boom* [03:17] therefore, the network and the server are isolated from each other [03:18] mrzero: oooo [03:18] Razor-X, will Fx memory holes be fixed in ubuntu 5.10? [03:18] but, it's also used as a general term showing that a box is going down [03:18] bigfoot1: its a firefox problem, not an ubuntu one [03:18] bigfoot1: it's not an Ubuntu problem, it's a Firefox one === TSWoodV [~woodt@216.230.39.168] has joined #ubuntu === david_afk is now known as david_ [03:18] anyone know of the correct way to change a hostname? not simply typing "hostname ..." [03:18] Guys, what do I want for DVD playback?? [03:18] wht's a FF problem? [03:18] maybe if we tell firefox/mozilla about this problem, they will fix it. [03:18] auk: firefox [03:18] what is the problem? [03:18] does anybody have some helpful hints on getting my sudo modprobe zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on lubuntu? [03:18] bigfoot1: and maybe you'll buy everyone in the channel a beer [03:19] bigfoot1: it's known [03:19] jtan325, changing the hostname file? === iceraven [~iceraven@dsl-202-173-158-141.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === oneleaf [~oneleaf@219.130.48.197] has joined #ubuntu === Coyctecm [~n1k0@a84-230-80-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === LeeColleton [~lc@dsl254-021-168.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@pcp0011109857pcs.elkrdg01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp0012069148pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Xatu [~dragon@user00265.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu === dip [dip@ool-4355f7dc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === trebuchet [~obligator@c-67-169-105-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.200.215] has joined #ubuntu === shortcircuit [~root@c-67-174-73-9.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === digitalfox|dnd [~urbanfox@68-118-240-62.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu === CerBerO_ [~CerBerO@pc-138-47-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu === Dekkard [~right@adsl-68-21-35-31.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === LordC [bnc@i.love.to.lan.at.prophet-clan.com] has joined #ubuntu === himitsu [~Himitsu@210.81.234.226] has joined #ubuntu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu === lllmanulll [~lllmanull@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === blazint [~blazin@cm99.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu === guerby [~guerby@65.195.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu === Doomgaze` [~Doomgaze@207.72.134.90] has joined #ubuntu === chrissturm [~chris@83-65-246-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu === herzi [~herzi@d024122.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu === bcroq [~bertrand@bruz.freeskop.net] has joined #ubuntu === goldfish [~nldlsjdlk@carbon.redbrick.dcu.ie] has joined #ubuntu === BeatYou-zZz [ne00@ip70-179-141-68.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === MM2__ [~moversti@www.edu.haapavesi.fi] has joined #ubuntu === Tomcat_ [~Tomcat@p54A18880.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === rottingtree [~hathhorn@adsl-65-64-102-32.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === spassky [~spassky@24.206.231.188] has joined #ubuntu === fhobia [~fhobia@cpe-024-163-118-051.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === z|bandito [~z@cpe-66-8-245-189.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === m4x [~m4x@65.215.149.124] has joined #ubuntu === Garathor [~Unknownn@217.17.221.4] has joined #ubuntu === tweakism [noident@68.113.136.185] has joined #ubuntu === darmou [~darmou@CPE-61-9-146-174.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === koma [~sascha@217-20-127-79.internetserviceteam.com] has joined #ubuntu === sege [~sege@sege.nu] has joined #ubuntu === lamont-away [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu === lhb [lhb@217.30.184.161] has joined #ubuntu === felis [havarden@rapid.ntnu.nu] has joined #ubuntu === Filbert [~Filbert@d51A479B5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu === davidmccabe [~david@c-24-20-177-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === ben_d [~ben@cpe-66-66-209-96.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === steveO_Office [~steven@astound-64-83-198-101.mn.astound.net] has joined #ubuntu === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu === Mayday [henrik@Anka.ORG] has joined #ubuntu === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu === raveli [ravel@otitsun.oulu.fi] has joined #ubuntu === plod [plod@b0c.b0c.net] has joined #ubuntu === jabular [~jabular@82-32-105-84.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === shanon [~abstract@203-206-85-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === imaek [~imaekphp[@adsl-69-235-169-152.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === joh [~joh@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Owl^ [~jani@a81-197-107-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === amblin [~youwish@bfs.itlab.musc.edu] has joined #ubuntu === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] /etc/hostname [03:19] auk: firefox has many [03:19] I'm tired of all the bleating Firefox fanboys anywho [03:19] whats the current kernel used by ubuntu? [03:19] nalioth: when i use Totem with the gstream it just freezes... [03:19] what is the problem? [03:19] and fangirls [03:19] netsplit o.O [03:19] Hehe, back again [03:19] nalioth, firefox has many what? [03:19] MidNightRaVeN: is your file format valid? [03:19] MidNightRaVeN: what you are trying to watch? [03:19] bigfoot1: PROBLEMS [03:19] Ninwa, is that all i have to do? [03:19] Hipsters with their starbucks and firefox browsers. [03:19] nalioth, ok. [03:19] i love firefox [03:19] change what's in the hostname file? [03:19] jeeze, i leave and this happens? [03:20] bigfoot1: try a linux native browser === mark is now known as markm [03:20] Danar: every1 left with you [03:20] okay, nalioth. but i will miss the extensions in firefox. sniff sniff [03:20] gdrmyukgj,gj,t [03:20] nalioth: just regular dvd's.... Matrix, Master and Commander, and Gladiator [03:20] nalioth; such as? [03:20] i want to get my zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on ubuntu. can anybody help? [03:20] i never left :p === markm is now known as mark [03:20] MidNightRaVeN: have you installed libdvdcss2? [03:20] kisss my ass [03:20] i love firefox+adblock too ^^ [03:20] fuccckkker [03:20] er, i 'left' physically [03:20] MidNightRaVeN: you mean, no BR2? [03:20] Kick please :) [03:20] auk: ask your question plainly, and you will get answers [03:20] rofl [03:20] damn! [03:20] yikes [03:20] fujiko: Opera doesen't need extensions, it does everything by itself [03:21] nalioth what is libdbddcss2? [03:21] fujiko: bigfoot1 adblocking doesnt require an extension [03:21] i love pain and suffering [03:21] with an executable size 1/3 less than UPX'd Firefox, it gets 8x the job done [03:21] Razor-X: yes it does [03:21] Razor-X: what's BR2? === scorpix_ [~scorpix@as17-146.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] opera is bloated [03:21] Adblock+flashblock == <3 [03:21] MidNightRaVeN: to decode your dvd, you need libdvdcss2 [03:21] MidNightRaVeN: Battle Royale 2 ;) [03:21] Opera is commercial eww [03:21] Razor-X: there's plenty of things opera is lacking [03:21] Razor-X: lol no [03:21] yeah === mark is now known as markm [03:21] nalioth: think that'll fix it?? [03:21] opera is very good, but firefox is better for most people [03:21] Danar: such as? [03:21] i tried opera, and couldn't stand it [03:22] MidNightRaVeN: one of the best movies of all time, short to only EoE [03:22] cxncvddd [03:22] MidNightRaVeN: fix what? YOU can install libdvdcss2 [03:22] Razor-X: well, there's like a thousand extensions [03:22] mmm mm good by doggies Jed I've done it again, pork ribs hot texas style with baked potatoes and beans. [03:22] Opera is a QT app if I'm not mistaken. [03:22] Razor-X: want a list? go to extensionsmirror.nl [03:22] Danar: which take up CPU usage [03:22] and RAM [03:22] Razor-X: hardly [03:22] Opera costs money, Firefox doesn't. Who wants to pay for a freaking browser nowadays, come on? [03:22] which I only have 256 MB and 1.6 ghz of [03:22] dnaar: lol [03:22] Razor-X: i feel ashamed to say that i have never seen it then... 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[03:22] man that is annoying! [03:23] Netsplit <3 [03:23] nalioth, but other extensions, such as gmail notifier or webmailcompose (mailto: links are directed to web version of gmail, rather than to evolution) will be missed. Can i get these feauters in the browsers you've cited? [03:23] i personally use galeon and kazehakase, both gecko based gtk2 browsers [03:23] Jesus, this netsplits are getting annoying. [03:23] Razor-X.. ha-ha. [03:23] auk: that's called netsplits buddy ;) [03:23] nalioth: i just mean fix the problem of Totem and Xine both stalling and not reading DVDs [03:23] why is there a DVD and a CD install for AMD64? which one is optimum ? [03:23] i personally find firefox bloated and slow [03:23] same here [03:23] Razor-X: i know [03:23] extensions are nice, but.. .. .. [03:23] Firefox IS pretty terrible in general [03:23] uio;tgp97;gbv08jyhp89ug [03:23] But [03:23] LJLJL [03:23] Firefox cannot manage anything more than 8 tabs well [03:23] RYUR === BeefTube uses dillo [03:23] HKHJFHJD [03:23] FGSCZX VU8746U5 [03:23] Razor-X: man, it's a browser. people don't have to pay for browsers, so it's unreasonable to expect them to [03:23] I still haven't found anything better [03:23] Guys [03:23] XVVXVX [03:23] HNCGHGDGH [03:23] BeefTube: the pwnage browser [03:23] opera is the bloated one, in m yopinion [03:23] HKHHJGOEFP DLW[ERIP [03:23] vgui: right, whatever [03:23] Kick vgui please [03:23] DTJTBV [03:23] GHFC ] === stanford [~stanford@ip68-14-106-246.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] DGFJ"] [03:23] Razor-X: just about the only thing opera offers over other browsers is security [03:23] yea, lol [03:23] MFFNCXTH/ [03:23] JGGHRTY4TRGSFSGWRT] [03:23] is there a net install of Ubuntu? [03:23] auk: obviously, you don't know about filesize [03:23] FGDVCBVDDTYY [03:23] GJGGJGG [03:23] vgui.. >: [03:24] Quentusrex: terrible how? [03:24] Razor-X, I'm sorry... Ubuntu must have adsl-setup... what is happening? [03:24] gecko does font rendering all by itself [03:24] Danar: and a smaller filesize, overhead, and better standards conformation [03:24] vgui has a stuttering problem [03:24] Razor-X: not by much [03:24] give him a minuet he will spit it out [03:24] that takes up space. [03:24] HJFHHJ === AnObfuscator [~tesseract@36-64.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === ecsta [~ecsta@lns-p19-4-idf-82-65-241-30.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:24] I don't have a GB of RAM man === _0kills [~zerokills@12-214-110-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] or 120 GB of HDD space [03:24] nalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place? === unome [~unome@ool-4351863e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] god damn [03:24] I have 256 MB of RAM, and 40 GB of HDD space [03:24] Do you know why my Ubuntu has not adsl-setup? How could I connect to the internet? [03:24] Razor-X: opera isn't fully standards compliant either [03:25] Danar: much more so than Firefox === mattis_ [tias@ua-83-227-173-72.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] NoHope: open a konsole and type pppoeconf. and set up your adsl connection === yonil [~me@bzq-218-180-214.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] Razor-X: hardly [03:25] <_0kills> hello [03:25] othernoob: you're forgetting, he may be using Gnome === Danar is now away [03:25] othernoob, I will try. thx. pppoeconf [03:25] Kornbluth is really terrible right now :x === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] Danar: not sure what you're smoking === aleksi [~aleksi@a193-229-161-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] DAnar: opera is hardly as well-off as FF [03:25] ChurcH_of_FoamY: You here?? [03:25] the Opera team consists of W3C members [03:25] hello [03:25] you guys get java virtual machieen for AMD64 ubuntu? I need that for my Lip sync-ing software. [03:25] Heya nalioth [03:26] Opera really doesn't beat Firefox standards-wise now [03:26] <_0kills> hey, i just installed RealPlayer10 for Linux. anyone know the command to launch it? 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[03:26] It doesn't, Razor-X. [03:26] Firefox renders things using nonstandard support [03:26] Razor-X: and the Gnome version of Ubuntu doesn't have pppoeconf? [03:26] nalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place? === nalioth [~Apple@cpe-66-25-34-88.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] groovy [03:26] only, I have no idea where my install cd is... [03:26] AnObfuscator: Probably need to comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list [03:26] othernoob: it doesen't have Konsole [03:26] AnObfuscator: Do you have CD sources in your sources.list? [03:26] anyone know what's up with this? [03:26] Razor-X: lol well okay, terminal, shell, anything.. [03:26] Razor-X, what makes you say that Fx can't do more that 8 tabs well? [03:26] hehehe === slomo [~slomo@p5487C791.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] BeefTube, what's dillo? [03:27] bigfoot1: because of the RAM it takes [03:27] bigfoot1: A browser [03:27] Opera takes just as much. [03:27] bigfoot1: the best browser in the world ;) for small browsing [03:27] Quest-Master: not at all [03:27] In my tests on this machine with both Opera and Firefox, they both consume the same RAM and run at the same speeds. [03:27] damn, this sucks.. i need a new video card for battlefield 2 and it'd help for linux... and i need a new a/v capture card for support for any recent os... and i need a new lcd tv for adequate viewing surface [03:27] On both Windows XP and Ubuntu as well. ;) [03:27] life's rough... [03:27] bigfoot1 it is a fast little browser... http://www.dillo.org/ [03:27] Did someone ask for me earlier? [03:27] Dillo is a lightweight browser. [03:27] :-P [03:27] Quest-Master: you must be smoking something real foreign, numerous test results agree, Opera is second-least among full-featured Linux browsers, preceded only by Konquerer on a KDE box [03:28] Quest-Master: with Firefox being capable of just as much? ;) === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] AnObfuscator: Did you "hear" me? :-) === svu [~svu@194.46.76.106] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] Razor-X, what do you mean by "small browsing"? [03:28] plus, Firefox renders slowly [03:28] Razor-X, link me to these recent test results then? [03:28] bigfoot1: less features, my mistake [03:28] Razor-X: why don't you start learning lynx, then? [03:28] bigfoot... to get it just do a ---- sudo apt-get install dillo [03:28] auk: I know lynx, thank you [03:28] Razor-X: There are fixes for slow rendering with a few quick changes of the options. [03:28] then dillo from any command line [03:28] Quest-Master, how did you find out how much ram a program takes? did you use top? [03:28] and I know emacs, and I know a shitload of console stuff [03:28] i'm not afraid to be called a terminal user [03:28] wow my master is on another split server [03:28] because I _am_ one [03:28] top, System Monitor, and Ctrl-Alt-Delete on Windows [03:28] ;) [03:29] RAzor-X: i tested loading times, and opera was slower [03:29] Razor-X, why would you want to use a browser with less features? === liable [~linux@dialup-151.188.220.203.acc01-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === pmai [~theg@pmai.user] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] hi [03:29] auk: on my box, it's the contrary === Choubaka [choubaka@ihme.org] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] Plus, some people don't like to pay for browsing the web. [03:29] bigfoot1: because all features aren't always used [03:29] And some people might not want warez either. [03:29] *cough* [03:29] Quest-Master: you don't have to pay for Opera [03:29] exactly [03:29] bigfoot1, you can add features to all gecko browsers [03:29] yeah, if you want ads! [03:29] UY97TY9[PTNT97[PMJJHHJGIUGYGYYGHVHYNHFRXGTJJKKLLPKPO8JF45W45CCD4D4GGYUHJMNJHIOH0H'0UJ-IPIIIHUHUGYFFYBNJHVCZSFJKJUGDFSDKHFYMJHGGTRRRUT65DHHHG [03:29] when i asked about netslpit, one person said wikipedia. Don't you think answers.com is better? [03:29] othernoob: Sorry, but personally, I don't want ANYTHING obstrusive in my viewing experience of the internet. 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[03:30] HNO'OUHJHHBBHHUJIJOPJK0PJ90IU[PJKO0[0'HY8B P9T8 CFFYHBJJKKJUIODFOPDFOHOOFSOGIOIOIGIOUIUISGSIGUSI9GUS9GUIG === AnObfuscator [~tesseract@36-64.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:30] much slowing [03:30] whats the command to rename ? [03:30] Razor-X: sorry, but you're comparing apples and oranges now. That argument about cars is void. ;) [03:30] I909UUUUIIKJIOPSUGJ90SUG09SSSSSSSAGYUA] SGU0-AGUJA0S=GSA=0GUSAGUS=0AGUXVJOX-UHB897ASDTG6RTWUI4TUFHUUUUUCJUFSYGSRTHEAHJ7U [03:30] i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly? [03:30] you need a swap of 1 GB [03:30] ;p === bhearsum [~bhearsum@65.168.184.109] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] Quest-Master, what do you mean by warez? and what warez are you referring to? [03:30] Quest-Master: doubt it ;) [03:30] Aerebus: mv oldfile newfile [03:30] Aerebus: do a 'man mv' [03:30] Hello pmai [03:30] so you dont get hijacked, and spyware when looking up porn... [03:30] plus its fast [03:30] bigfoot1: software paid for illegally [03:30] that looks like it ought to be pretty easy to crack [03:30] IHJIIIHIUY7UY79T6BVG6O7VF5OC KLOJJIIDSFIOG IDOGYU9ET8YUG9WU80TMW79NV 8ryg[sr89tyqwty=Q424868R7WTW4I'STAkihj[dghitshkmkjhjhbbhvvyufr5t7edttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt === squinn [~squinn@68.205.198.0] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] bigfoot1: Razor-X has implied that he warez'ed his Opera. [03:30] this is surreal [03:31] khji'hdfkkklk [03:31] BeefTube: Opera does that and more [03:31] uysdgy [03:31] hi bddebian? [03:31] rob^, right click on the file in nautilus, choose properties and then choose an application in open with [03:31] i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly? [03:31] Quest-Master: did I say that? [03:31] bigfoot1: answers.com takes from wikipedia, IIRC [03:31] iiuyyj [03:31] if its encrypted data instead of just blather [03:31] no [03:31] mv is move [03:31] Razor-X: You sure did imply it. Want me to copy and paste the line where you did? [03:31] whats rename? :) [03:31] I bought it, along with Total Commander, two of the best apps ever [03:31] BRB, my chatzilla is broken... [03:31] Aerebus, yes, and also 'rename' [03:31] Aerebus, man builtins [03:31] Quest-Master: yes please, go ahead [03:31] ksjgishgirtusryt8rytii5riosaoigs ygsvnhzxhvbbysedgf::;sud;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; === mattis_ [tias@ua-83-227-173-72.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] Danar, yes, answers.com has the wikipedia entry plus more. that's why i thought answers.com was better. [03:31] Aerebus, you use "mv" to rename stuff [03:31] Aerebus: mv is synonymous with rename. There is no rename in GNU/Linux [03:31] since implications are almost always correct, after-all ;) === BeefTube [~I_like@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] Quest-Master: OMG OMG i'm too cheap to buy stuff!!11!! ;) <-- hmm, I wonder what the wink here implies? [03:31] qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq [03:32] hiiiiiiiiiiii [03:32] oh [03:32] vgui, get out. Please. [03:32] god i wish i had ops [03:32] wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [03:32] yeah === Thazza [~Sleepy@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] Quest-Master: my ";)" is the equivalent of the :) smilie [03:32] bigfoot1: not if they're copying from wikipedia. wikipedia will always be updated more frequently === Alfa|WERK [~AlfaWolph@12.151.193.50] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] heh, so that is that that button does! [03:32] nalioth: /ignore ;) [03:32] channe residents, you can /ignore vgui [03:32] just /ignore him [03:32] he left. [03:32] yes [03:32] !! [03:32] Razor-X: no, i'd rather +b vgui [03:32] BeefTube: I haven't a clue [03:32] If I run an application from a konsole I get.. f.eks with gedit .. (gedit:32584): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [03:32] i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly? [03:32] nalioth: same here [03:32] Razor-X: Should've used the :) smiley then I suppose to avoid disambiguation, right? :) [03:32] Razor-X: and then put a foot in his posterior [03:32] pmai: much slowdown [03:33] you need a 1 GB swap [03:33] 0o [03:33] what's with all the attacks on open source project irc channels? [03:33] What is the command to hide a poster? [03:33] Razor-X: that's not really true. [03:33] nalioth, why do you use two browsers? [03:33] #debian, #firefox, #ubuntu, and who knows what else === bob2 [~rob@crumbs.ertius.org] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] Razor-X okie === Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] othernoob: what isn't? [03:33] Razor-X: that he'd need 1GB swap [03:33] danar, doesn't answers.com use the same current info that's on the wiki? [03:33] bigfoot1: because i run ubuntu on a PPC, and things work a little differntly on PPC ubuntu [03:34] is there a net install of Ubuntu? [03:34] othernoob: he does for something like Open-Office, or software compilation [03:34] Razor-X how resize exist parttion FAT32? [03:34] nalioth, so on your non-ppc comp, what do you use? [03:34] well, the answer should be obvious, danar... freely available stuff anyone can edit is inherantly evil [03:34] ColonelKernel: yeah, there is === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] Danar: Mainly because I'm trying to protect open-source software's reputation here while being compared to a closed, proprietary, commercial application. [03:34] so I dont have to download 4 cds? [03:34] Razor-X, nice [03:34] ColonelKernel: Nope [03:34] bigfoot1: no, i think they download the database once in a while... [03:34] Quest-Master: I don't follow the OSS Flag like a blind idiot [03:34] bigfoot1: i don't own anything BUT apple hardware [03:34] Danar, ok, now i see what you're saying. [03:34] ColonelKernel: it's only 1 CD ;) === Ycros [~Ycros@c211-30-252-204.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] langolier: heh [03:34] does ubuntu Razor-X the whole thing? [03:34] pmai: gparted [03:35] Razor-X: Neither do I. I use Photoshop all the time because it was designed from a designer's perspective and Gimp not. [03:35] sorry you cought me unawares in the middle of a sentence [03:35] yes, all in one cd [03:35] anyone having sound on G5 systems? [03:35] pmai: i think you might need to defrag it first though [03:35] Quest-Master: good then === mcquaid [mcquaid@toronto-hs-216-138-233-79.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] because I know quite a few who'ld lynch you for that [03:35] or me for using Opera [03:35] any suggestions for a good gui DVD burner that will do cue/bin? k3b won't do it, nor graveman, nor gnomebaker... [03:35] pmai: boot to the ubuntu livecd if you have it, and 'apt-get install gparted' and resize it with that [03:36] Opera, though, is the only piece of moneyed software I use, and two nonfree applications that are free-as-in-beer [03:36] pmai, you WILL need to defrag, and I'd use diskkeeper pro in windoze to do it - its 1000x better than the system defrag utility === Zodiac [~nicholas@69-161-72-233.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] razor: we won't lynch you for usign opera, jsut for bashing firefox ;-) [03:36] Razor-X: Except, I'm simply trying to point out that Firefox isn't as terrible as you make it out to be. :) Don't want to lynch you or anything, we're buds! Everyone is in #ubuntu besides people like vgui.. [03:36] ColonelKernel: I had a bad experience with that and NTFS [03:36] misfit_toy: i had no problems with cue/bin and k3b. only did it once though. [03:36] BeefTube, do you use dillo yourself? if so, only dillo? or do you use other browsers-? [03:36] svu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [03:36] Danar yes i got these cds from free order [03:36] I use lynx also [03:36] Razor-X, with gparted or with diskeeper pro? [03:36] auk: well, I'm forgetting the amount of firefox fanboys-and-girls there are in here ;) [03:36] othernoob, but to DVD? [03:36] BeefTube: right on! ;) [03:36] misfit_toy: yes === BigIslandVegan [~BigIsland@vnam1.uhh.hawaii.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] heh :) [03:37] ColonelKernel: the latter [03:37] razor-x: that was low [03:37] pmai: good. boot from the livecd, open a root terminal, and run 'apt-get install gparted' and use that [03:37] nalioth, thanks === trog [~trog@240x10.ssimicro.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] othernoob, then I must be missing something...hmmm [03:37] you guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support [03:37] ColonelKernel: and my NTFS wouldn't resize in qtparted [03:37] then you'll be manly men [03:37] Razor-X, thats odd, I use it on my windows partition and it rocked [03:37] rofl nalioth. [03:37] nalioth: yeah, it's awesome too [03:37] BeefTube: elinks is better :) [03:37] othernoob, was it a movie? [03:37] I know TwiBright links and lynx [03:37] ok I will try it when i install this afternoon, thanks for the tip :) [03:37] gparted is better than qtparted, in my experience [03:37] Razor-X, thats REALLY odd - of course I did my rezise with knoppix - but that shouldnt make any difference [03:37] i've gotten used to erc now, thanks to the odd debate [03:37] I am trying to play with apache... once it is installed I used nautilus to browse to the directory on the HDD, however I don't have any rights to that directory as a user and can't add any content, what should I do? Log in as root somehow or give myself rights to that directory somehow? [03:37] ColonelKernel: mine went whacky on me [03:38] misfit_toy: yes it was a dvd image in cue/bin === concept10 [~concept10@adsl-69-155-89-232.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] Danar: gtk vs qt? [03:38] Razor-X, its only gone wacky on me if I tried to resize it too much [03:38] nalioth, there is no /dev/dsp on my system. and even /proc/asound/devices shows just timer [03:38] and I had to manually disable 5 symantec services from XP with cryptic names, thanks to Symantec's crappy software [03:38] whats the command to create dirs from terminal? :$ [03:38] Danar thanks you, i am going to boot [03:38] nalioth: i believe so [03:38] nalioth: let me guess oyu use kde? [03:38] Anyone know how to increase brightness on laptop screen? [03:38] I had a hard time resizing, after that it was a breeze === spreda [~bill@58-84-106-241.dial-lns6.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] svu: i'm sorry, i only run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook [03:38] yeah symantec software is the pits [03:38] pmai: gl [03:38] auk: anything wrong with using KDE, and I hear he uses E ;) [03:38] I use AVG in windoze [03:39] I think avg even has a linux release [03:39] Danar: gparted is gtk, and qtparted is qt === siorfin [~siorfin@CPE-65-29-183-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:39] my dad installed Symantec [03:39] AVG is excellent [03:39] ColonelKernel: symantec (norton) had some good dos tools [03:39] nalioth, I see. It seems G5 is not supported yet:( [03:39] can anyone tell me how to create dirs from terminal? :P [03:39] nalioth: yeh [03:39] qtparted is better than gparted, tohugh [03:39] OMG i forgot.. Ubuntu uses gnome by default!!! EeeeeeeeeW!!! === BeefTube faints [03:39] svu: So fix it :-) [03:39] Danar, yeah but dos is dead [03:39] golgor: mkdir dir [03:39] BeefTube: heh [03:39] svu: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com [03:39] Quest-Master, thx [03:39] golgor: dir being the name of the directory in the above context [03:39] auk: i use the terminal mostly === Ninwa [~joey@d14-69-38-157.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #Ubuntu [03:39] Quest-Master: actually, avg sucks [03:39] ColonelKernel: not really... [03:39] auk: with gnome in tha background === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] where would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me? [03:40] razor-x: no, but kde currently has a monopoly and is growing. [03:40] auk: Subjective ;) [03:40] BeefTube: I used to think that but I'm really getting used to gnome [03:40] nalioth, you wrote "you guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support." What are you talking about? [03:40] Quest-Master: check virusbtn.com [03:40] well thats true, my mom still uses dos 6.22 or something like that on her server at her work for her outdated bookeeping program [03:40] auk: monopoly? [03:40] bigfoot1: the 'manly men' part was a joke [03:40] a monopoly stifles creativity and quality [03:40] of course she has to pay someone 90 bucks an hour to maintain her server === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu === cyphase [~cyphase@adsl-69-224-18-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === qt2 [~qt2@pool-64-222-227-195.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] bigfoot1: you can google "twibright links" and you'll be directed to twibright labs [03:40] yea, gnome is cool... I will just pop in XFCE afteter the install 8) [03:40] auk: what do you mean by monopoly? I know Government theory well enough [03:40] Uhm since when was DOS 6.22 an NOS? [03:40] nalioth, so you were talking about twibright links? [03:41] is there a simple way to switch from gentoo to ubuntu? [03:41] and contrary to most OSS users, i'm a slight totalitarion-pro person [03:41] bddebian, thanks for the idea :) [03:41] nice , so ubuntu uses apt-get? [03:41] bigfoot1: their source code for links has the ability for you to choose to enable graphics and javascript (and lots more) === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:41] that rocks [03:41] yes [03:41] razor-x: "government theory"? === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] hey everyone [03:41] ColonelKernel: it's based on debian [03:41] Hello cybersystem [03:41] auk: yes, government theory [03:41] Err cyphase even [03:41] most linux users use kde [03:41] nalioth, yeah, I browsed around - and found only negative info :( [03:41] Danar, right on, im downloading it now [03:41] nalioth, so this is a browser you're takling about? [03:41] Damn tab completion [03:41] the great majority, at least [03:41] auk: and most linux users use xine [03:41] Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for the DVD playback [03:41] svu: then ask uncle google (groups) [03:41] *ubuntu users [03:41] ColonelKernel: :) you can also have CDs sent to you for free [03:41] I use mplayer [03:41] bigfoot1: yes, and a damned fast one [03:41] and most ubuntu users use many default ones [03:41] ColonelKernel: free shipping too [03:41] look at me, do I? no === BeefTube uses XFCE, and wears tight leather trousers. === TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] Danar, thats cool, I saw that [03:42] Eterm, emacs, trackball, Dvorak [03:42] bigfoot1: have you used links, or lynx or elinks? [03:42] where would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me? [03:42] I didnt know it was free shipping too though === alindeman [adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] nalioth, so many browsers: twilight, dillo, hakikaze, galeon, epiphany. which is good, i wonder? === Danar still uses elinks sometimes [03:42] Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback? [03:42] nalioth, i used to use lynx 6 years ago. === watermellonz [ladpuddy@as5800-1.216-194-3-113.nyc.ny.metconnect.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] but now i use firefox. === mattis_ [tias@ua-83-227-173-72.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] nalioth, as I see, "not quite there yet" in 2.6.12 - so 2.6.10 is hardly any better... [03:43] bigfoot1: well, the twibright flavored links, is a text mode browser (all *links are) that has graphics capability (if compiled in) [03:43] there's a keyboard driven Gecko based browser by the Mozilla team, I hear [03:43] bigfoot1: so it works in the terminal or xserver [03:43] svu: yes, the price you pay for early adoption (of linux) [03:43] nalioth: I compiled mine with X with graphics [03:43] :( [03:43] svu: what G5 do you have? [03:43] I may need to remedy that [03:43] nalioth, but i run the gui, should this be something that interests GUI/Desktop users? [03:43] Guys? [03:43] Razor-X: yes i know === watermellonz [ladpuddy@as5800-1.216-194-3-113.nyc.ny.metconnect.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:44] langolier: /etc/modules? [03:44] bigfoot1: you can go get the source, learn a little about compiling, and have a blazing fast minimalist graphical browser [03:44] Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback? [03:44] nalioth, dual power G5 (you know, the linuxonpower contest prize) [03:44] Zodiac != male? :-) [03:44] Dag sorry [03:44] svu: i shouldnt have asked... [03:44] another cool thiong about dillo... is is easyer to type from the commandline... you can do things like.. dillo www.google.com or dillo slashdot.com.... you can do it from commandline with firefox too but it is long to type... mozilla-firefox www.google.com.... phew My fingers are tired now 8) [03:44] damn it... doesn't look like the zoran codec supports my zoran card :( [03:45] BeefTube: you can do that with lynx too ;) [03:45] yeah dillo is awesome [03:45] svu: why arent you running OSX + fink + darwinports? [03:45] Does anyone know? [03:45] but yeah, dillo pwnz === D[a] vey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === djm62 [~djm62@82-40-60-28.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === ch_604 [~andrej@aa2002110879005.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] BeefTube: you can do that with ANY browser [03:45] beeftube: symlink mozilla-firefox to soemthing else [03:45] nalioth: not all (most probably) [03:45] BeefTube: nobody has told you about aliases yet? [03:45] I haven't encountered one that doesen't, though [03:45] Cool 8) [03:45] Dam Small linux has a script to make Dillo have tabs and java i think [03:45] nalioth, okay maybe in the future, i'll try terminal-based browsers. but for now, i'd like to find something to replace this memory-leaking Fx. what's the best alternative among the 3 mentioned: galeon or epiphany or kazehakase? === NoHope [~silas@201-13-45-189.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] hi all! [03:46] Razor-X: 99% of the programs on this box are command-line-driveable [03:46] BeefTube: yeah, it's a dillo patch that's commonly available [03:46] I'm finnaly on Ubuntu!!! [03:46] cool [03:46] nalioth, :) because I need x10 stuff, some kernel modules. and I want to be able to do gnome development as well [03:46] bigfoot1: try galeon [03:46] bigfoot1: do you use Gnome, or KDE? [03:46] lol BeefTube your nick is a riot [03:46] I am gonna get it 8) [03:46] or another Window Manager? [03:46] Razor-X, i use gnome [03:46] svu: x10? [03:46] bigfoot1: I think epiphany is the official gnome browser [03:46] is there a simple way to install ubuntu paralell to gentoo? [03:46] thanks 8) [03:46] nalioth, yeah [03:46] then Galeon would be good [03:46] qt2: of course [03:46] svu: i'm ignorant, what is it? [03:46] BeefTube: symlink mf to firefox, and use tab completion. and you don't need 'www' [03:46] nalioth, namely, "wish". It is about home automation [03:46] djm62, what's the importance of something being the official Gnome browser? [03:47] svu: oh those X10 things [03:47] Sweet, thanks for the tip 8) [03:47] djm62, in other words, does something being "official" mean much? [03:47] nalioth, exactly :) [03:47] svu: it doesnt run on osx? [03:47] blah [03:47] My DVD playback is skipping [03:47] bigfoot1: integration might be a little nicer, and more components might be shared with gnome (decreasing memory footprint) [03:47] /join #zoran [03:47] clean your disk [03:47] i see. [03:47] bigfoot1: they are all free to try, try them all and keep what you like [03:47] Zodiac: hold on let me get the link === dapimp53 [~michael@c-24-23-233-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] bigfoot1: these are "mights"...the right one is the one you like best [03:47] djm62, do you use epiphany? [03:47] nalioth, it builds some linux kernel modules. I am not particularly interested in porting them to osx :) [03:47] cool [03:47] djm62: that is galeon and epiphany and kazehakase [03:48] svu: ah [03:48] NoHope: congrats :) [03:48] svu: how bout qemu? [03:48] bigfoot1: I'm quite happy on firefox, but I have plenty of memory [03:48] I may switch Opera if someone presents something better (not Firefox) [03:48] Razor-X, i was thinking installing it on another drive and adding an entry to grub.conf.. :o [03:48] how much memory, djm62 ? [03:48] qt2: works === vladuz976 [~vladuz976@pool-71-106-211-189.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] I have 2 dvd rom drives...am i going to have to disconnect one to get grub to install properly? TIA [03:48] I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop and the mouse touchpad is not working. I had to plug in a USB mouse. How do I get my touchpad to start working? [03:48] bigfoot1: 512M minus video [03:48] Zodiac: there was a thing that you had to enable for your drive [03:48] nalioth, well, I did not think of it really - but why wasting so much efforts to build linux on macos - instead of just using linux?:) === parabolize [~paraboliz@68-69-136-167.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] BeefTube: not really [03:48] qt2: sounds good [03:49] it was called dma or udm or something === jack_ [~jack@p508D98F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] Cool :) [03:49] but dont remember or find the link [03:49] poningru: dma ;) [03:49] hey is anybody in here using gmailfs? i get thie error when trying to mount: fusermount: old style mounting not supported [03:49] svu: go google qemu and check it out [03:49] Razor-X, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase a good alternative to firefox? why pay for opera? [03:49] Razor-X: do you have the link to enabling that in a drive [03:49] svu: hardware support on modern PPC platforms is a factor [03:49] anybody know what to do here === vdm [~vdm@84-104-142-217.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] svu: its deliciously evil [03:49] there was a howto for that [03:49] What do you mean ponigru? [03:49] hey, why [apt-get install beep] doesn't work? [03:49] poningru: don't remember offhand, no [03:49] let me go search [03:49] nalioth, well, I'll give it a thought... [03:50] djm62, other than 3D and sound - it is ok so far [03:50] okay, i've just downloaded dillo. [03:50] found it [03:50] Zodiac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29 [03:50] liz4rd: yes? [03:50] 73%!!! a few more minuets and i will be enjoying Ubuntu doing a 1 hour apt-get dist upgrade 8) [03:50] svu: max out your ram, and run OSX and ubuntu simultaneously [03:50] svu: yeah...some of us like music and quake ;) [03:50] if your drive is new it should help with the skipping [03:50] BeefTube: to breezy? [03:50] bigfoot1: tell me if you find anything better than firefox [03:50] auk: Opera [03:50] anyone got apache and php working? [03:50] 0o [03:50] auk, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase? [03:50] auk: you can use the others yourself, they are free! [03:50] ;) [03:51] i wasn' talking to you razor-x [03:51] heh [03:51] auk: does it matter? [03:51] nalioth, the point is that I do not _particularly_ need macosx... If only I'll get sound at some point... [03:51] Razor-X: you want something better than opera other than firefox? why? [03:51] i've tried galeon and epiphany [03:51] auk, i'm going to download the 3, and see which is nice. [03:51] this is FREE stuff we're discussing [03:51] Danar: I said, i'm open to something better [03:51] djm62, quake is too old for me:) [03:51] svu: ok then (was hopin for a guinea pig) [03:51] NoHope: 'doesn't work' doesn't tell us anything [03:51] djm62: it matters not for me [03:51] hmmm my DMA apears to be on... yet it still skips [03:51] Razor-X: you also said 'other than firefox' [03:51] Razor-X: try galeon [03:51] Can anyone help me with my mouse problems? [03:51] Razor-X: music? [03:51] Danar: exactly, because i've already tried Firefox [03:52] Try Internet Exploder in Wine then.. ;-P [03:52] nalioth, :) anyway, thanks for the idea. I am going to try mac-on-linux also [03:52] nalioth: it's Gnome based [03:52] Danar, see the error: [03:52] dapimp53: i sure can't [03:52] Razor-X: so you think it's not better. why? [03:52] MOL?? Ewww :-) [03:52] root@codeone:/ # apt-get install beep [03:52] Reading package lists... Done [03:52] Building dependency tree... Done [03:52] E: Couldn't find package beep [03:52] svu: good luck with MOL [03:52] bddebian: don't you mean internet exploiter ;) [03:52] Danar, what could it be? [03:52] NoHope: dont paste, please [03:52] auk: Or that :-) [03:52] NoHope: its called bmp i believe [03:52] NoHope: how about _you_ see the error ;p [03:52] Danar: because anything more than 8 tabs is not memory-managed correctly, the number of extensions you need for basic functioning is enormous, and the interface of Firefox feels clunkier than Opera to me [03:52] Razor-X: so what do you want? [03:53] Razor-X: firefox isnt native to any platform [03:53] nalioth, is it bad? [03:53] nalioth: as I said, me no want Firefox ;) [03:53] nalioth, Danar, the same error for bmp. === Jigoku [~timothy@cpe-65-24-160-20.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === BeefTube thinks firefox is sleek and sexy [03:53] Razor-X: galeon, kaze~ and epiphany are all gtk2 based gecko browsers [03:53] Razor-X: you might be right about the tabs, but you're wrong about the extensions [03:53] Razor-X: please try the latest firefox [03:53] Razor-X: then you need to be specific and say "NO GECKO" [03:53] Danar: it takes a toll on a 256 MB RAM box === butchmank9 [~butc@c-24-5-135-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] nalioth: NO GECKO [03:53] ;) [03:53] dp dev is availble [03:53] opera is OK...I find it "feels better" to use free software [03:53] Can't wait till Mozilla Deer Park is stabilized and then turned to the new Firefox release [03:53] :D [03:53] NoHope: obviously it's not working because you're not using the right package name. try apt-cache search beep [03:53] nalioth, Danar, I tried with a lot of packages... firefox, gnome, etc... the same error. [03:53] Razor-X: stick with opera, then [03:54] nalioth: mmmkay, heh [03:54] NoHope: use synaptic [03:54] yeah to each his own [03:54] NoHope: run synaptic and hit refresh === darksatanic [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] hey, whrer did you come form! [03:54] wow, is geko in apt? that is neat... i have been playing in PC linux... verry limmited apt repository... looking forward to ubuntu and shopping for neat new applications [03:54] or reload, or whatever it is [03:54] damn you, poningru! [03:55] you say one line on every channel i'm on, even on diff servers! [03:55] wtf [03:55] has anyone ever installed koalamud ? [03:55] !info koalamud [03:55] koalamud: (a distributed MUD server), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.3.2a-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 328 kB [03:55] php and apache anyone? === liquidboy [~Miranda@210.54.64.12] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] golgor what about them ? [03:55] nick BeatYou [03:56] !info gnome-mud [03:56] gnome-mud: (multi user dungeon client for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.10.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 342 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB === pink-hippo [~pink-hipp@CPE000f6690f692-CM00080d881284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] BeatYou-zZz, i need help getting php to work [03:56] BeatYou-zZz: Pokemon Diamond? ;) [03:56] nalioth, there is no beep. There is no bmp. [03:57] grrrrr Why cant I get my touchpad to work nor my wireless internet [03:57] NoHope: search in synaptic for beep (in package name and content) [03:57] going to attempt compileing cinelerra... I need a good video editor for my animations [03:57] NoHope: beep-media-player [03:57] yeah, same here with the touch pad. [03:57] NoHope: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [03:57] golgor you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed ? === we0 [~weo@p5499F908.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] is there anything good for encoding/transcoding in Linux? [03:57] NoHope: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto === _4strO [~astro@AStrasbourg-251-1-77-182.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] Razor-X: transcode [03:57] rofl [03:57] now then, how do i figure out what grub sees /dev/hdc5 as? [03:57] NoHope: anything in your sources list? [03:57] nalioth: is that a program? ;) [03:57] im with php 5.0.4 [03:57] and what are its features? [03:58] Razor-X: yes and a good one [03:58] damn my volume is maxed out and it is still weak as hell [03:58] just libapache2-mod-php5? [03:58] qt2: it uses its own system, if you do "info grub" you can find it [03:58] Razor-X: go to its homepage and see what ARENT its features [03:58] BeatYou-zZz, just libapache2-mod-php5? [03:58] golgor: ubuntu doens't have packages for php5 on the repos [03:58] qt2: I think that would be (hd3,6) but check the page [03:58] awww === BeatYou-zZz is now known as BeatYou [03:58] easier to set up php4? [03:58] i guess [03:58] php5 is unstable anyway ;] [03:59] qt2: a,b,c are counted from zero, and I think the partitions are as well === butchmank9 [~butc@c-24-5-135-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:59] BeatYou, how to remove php5 then? :P [03:59] golgor did you just download source for php5 or something ? === GMachine_24 [~GMachine@pool-71-99-101-174.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] how did you install it in the first place [03:59] yea [03:59] nalioths_dog, yap. It worked. thx! [03:59] BeatYou, i downloaded the source and compiled, installed [04:00] BeatYou, wont work :( [04:00] Anyone know how to solve the virtual link to .ttf file needed for mplayer? [04:00] well, there is more to it, you have to link apache2 with php5 [04:00] in httpd.conf [04:00] Anyone that can help a noob get his touchpad working on dell4100 w/ ubuntu? === Hylas [~Hylas@dialup-193.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] dell yuck [04:00] (sorry) === pink-hippo is now known as pink-noob [04:01] It's used, and all I could afford... laptop. [04:01] anyone here know anything about running world of warcraft on cadega [04:01] cedega [04:01] Is Xine-ui different from Totem-XINE [04:01] not everyone lives computers auk... === fr500 [~andres@143.228.uio.satnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] Jigoku: have you had a look at the hardware wiki (more likely to be on there than for someone in here to have one) [04:01] betyou: what do you mena? [04:01] http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/ Is this for ubuntu also? I want to master some live cd for my students/clients [04:01] nothing [04:01] BeatYou: what do you mean? [04:01] kazehakase says i need to download PSM (Personal Security manager) when I went to gmail.com. So how do i get PSM? [04:02] BeefTube: there is a wiki article on remastering ubuntu [04:02] cool :) [04:02] golgor: LoadModule php5_module in httpd.conf maybe ? [04:02] you need a download site for ubuntu beef? [04:02] bigfoot1: install mozilla-psm [04:02] oh, ok, thanks. [04:02] man... theres alot of flippin sweet programs in the universe === DonL [~don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] nalioth, thanks. [04:02] BeatYou, ill try [04:02] LoadModule php5_module /path/to === Kikinator [~Kiki@d205-206-117-242.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] you have to make apache recognize .php also [04:02] p8ntballer100822: wait til you get to the multiverse [04:03] the universe is without limits. [04:03] \quit [04:03] p8ntballer100822: try the multiverse [04:03] nalioth: multiverse is shit. [04:03] golgor: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php [04:03] i feal like its christmas [04:03] can anyone help with a java installation problem? [04:03] getting all these cool apps [04:03] Kikinator: many [04:03] !java [04:03] hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java === victor [~victor@201.138.105.3] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] Kikinator: whats up? [04:03] how do i get into my the multi universe [04:03] ? [04:03] Kikinator: are you following that page? [04:03] I'm trying to install the FLAC plugin for BMP, but all the archive file contains, is a .la file and a .so file... Does anyone know where I should start? [04:04] I download the plugin, but it doesn't install [04:04] Kikinator: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] [04:04] p8ntballer100822: Modify your /etc/apt/sources.list [04:04] p8ntballer100822: in your sources.list, add multiverse where universe is [04:04] Kikinator: follow the dog [04:04] i marked so much shit its gunna take forever to dl [04:04] o i did do that already [04:04] i installed ephiphany, but when i do "epiphany" it says it's not found. what is the command name? [04:04] wow, computing dogs for the uncomputery [04:04] i am in the multiuniverse [04:04] bddebian: he should have official list + backports (p8 [04:04] multiverse [04:04] nope [04:04] bigfoot1: epiphany-browser === victor [~victor@201.138.105.3] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [04:05] nalioth: :-) [04:05] auk, how do i get epiphany-browser into my main menu? [04:05] bigfoot1: should be applications > internet > epiphany [04:05] heh, I want to make a Xbox ubuntu!! with AdvancedMAME and Xmame, and Xmess, and bring all the joy and delight back to my gameing time... I want to make a arcade cabinate with the Xbox inside as the brains... have all my Xbox games on hard drive somehow so I can choose them from a menu... [04:05] bigfoot1: gnome or what? [04:05] auk, gnome. [04:05] bigfoot1: install it. sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser [04:05] tehn what nalioth said [04:05] i installed epiphany. is epiphany different from epiphany-browser? [04:05] make a Xbox cluster system 8) [04:05] yes [04:05] no === ubuntu_ [~ubuntu@ool-18baf913.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] its a game [04:05] all these programs are gunna take so long to dl i must of marked like 300 of them [04:06] auk: ... === ubuntu_ is now known as NYRanger [04:06] bigfoot1: you need to install epiphany-browser [04:06] bigfoot1: epiphany is a browser epiphany -browser is the command to invoke it [04:06] another thing, my root filesystem partition is my largest partition, but it won't let me write anything on it...and for some reason, I can't login as root [04:06] nalioth, so you're saying i downloaded the wrong thing? [04:06] oh! you mean you installe dteh package "epiphany" [04:06] Kikinator: that is deliberate [04:06] auk: epiphany is a game, to install browser, epiphany-browser, after that, from command line epiphany calls it. [04:06] hey all. I just ran Unbuntu from the CD. Its pretty awesome. One odd thing though. its only letting me use a resolution of 640x480. I have an Intel Extreme Graphics Adapter. is there a quick fix or should I research it on Google? [04:06] in fact, I know, I use it. [04:07] so how do I login as root? === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp220-145.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] Kikinator: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [04:07] BeefTube, just read this morning about someone in England getting charged by Microsoft for selling modded Xboxes [04:07] Kikinator: being root as a habit is a bad idea, ubuntu has no root user by default [04:07] dabaR: yes, i forgot, it's not a bad game actually "a baldrdash clone" [04:07] I would not sell them [04:07] but I need root in order to use my main partition [04:07] NYRanger: it can be fixed when you install it [04:07] boulder dash [04:07] can anyone help me with my resolution? [04:07] it says my account lacks permissions === FLeiXiuS [~fleixius@pcp0010487351pcs.essex01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] mmmmmmm mutil universe programs [04:07] nalioth: It did not give me a choice though. [04:07] bald rash is a medical condition ;) [04:07] Kikinator: sudo? [04:07] i just did an istall of mozilla-psm, but kazehakase still tells me to get psm. [04:07] !resolution [04:07] from memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [04:08] NYRanger: at the boot prompt is asks you to press f1 for help or enter to boot [04:08] BeatYou, query [04:08] I want to cluster 100 Xboxes together, install linux... and figure out the meaning of life, while I surf for good porn. [04:08] wtf is kazehakase? [04:08] like, I tried mkdir /file but it said I lacked permissions [04:08] NYRanger: press f1 or whatever it is and look for video options [04:08] Woher kann man Informationen bekommen, wie man die Zugriffsrechte fr DVD-Ram ndert? [04:08] sudo mkdir /file [04:08] dabaR: a japanese made gecko browser [04:08] [04:08] dabaR: form context, abrowser [04:08] !info kazehakase [04:08] kazehakase: (gecko based web browser using GTK), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 554 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB [04:09] after this, I have to try using emms [04:09] nalioth: interesting thing. when i booted of the cd in vmware (weird setup I know) it did give me a choice of resolutions. [04:09] ok burning my ISO... be back in a while while it updates 8) [04:09] !info kazehakase-psm [04:09] dabaR: !resolution doesnt work on the liveCD [04:09] NYRanger: thats because vmware simulated a known video card [04:09] nalioth: my resolution is fine/:) wouldnt know, + i install ubuntu [04:10] when i installed epiphany, it needed the gecko browser. What is this geko/mozilla browser anyway? [04:10] dabaR: yes, but his ? concerned the livecd [04:10] ChurcH_of_FoamY: Wake up man.. :-) [04:10] nalioth, I'm sure I changed res using the live cd. [04:10] bigfoot1: the gecko rendering engine is the heart of mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, galeon, epiphany, blah blah [04:10] bigfoot1: same engine as firefox, different toolbars afaik [04:10] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whateverserverlivecduses does not work? [04:10] !info acm4 [04:10] !info acm [04:10] the ubuntu is very sweet though. Performs much faster then Fedora does. [04:10] acm4: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.7-14 (hoary), Packaged size: 859 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB [04:10] acm: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 5.0-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1180 kB [04:10] nalioth: camino... [04:10] DonL: i'm sure you have a recognized video card, also [04:11] Ahh. That may be the case [04:11] dabaR: camino is for OSX, this is #ubuntu [04:11] so gecko browser is the foundation from which the other browsers build on? [04:11] the Gecko Engine [04:11] #ubuntu, oh sorry, [04:11] bigfoot1: the engine they run on [04:11] not all other browsers, only some === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu ["I] === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] bigfoot1: gecko is a thing for converting html to the image on your screen [04:11] hey dabaR [04:11] again ;) [04:11] wb dabaR :-0) [04:12] hehe, a reaction. [04:12] p8ntballer100822: remember what i said about comments [04:12] bigfoot1: the concept behind mozilla and firefox is that the browser UI is also written in an xml variant, and rendered by gecko [04:12] KHTML also pwnz [04:12] bdebbian i'm just getting ready for bed though === Discipulus [~disc@main026.ppp.rockriver.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] forgot i had a dr appt in the morning [04:12] ChurcH_of_FoamY: Did you have any luck? [04:12] yes... [04:12] bigfoot1: whereas in epiphany the UI is in gtk, and only the inside of the browser window is rendered with gecko [04:13] ChurcH_of_FoamY: I just set it up right now and it worked immediately.. ?? :-( [04:13] bdebbian no i have been tinkering with it for a bit [04:13] oh, sorry, i used the wrong word. I meant mozilla browser. When i installed epiphany, it had to install mozilla browser, as well. my question is: what is this mozilla browser, and why would anyone want to use it ? [04:13] well then i did something wrong [04:13] and i don't yet know what it is [04:13] bigfoot1: which makes gtk based browsers faster under gnome [04:13] bigfoot1: you really never heard of mozilla? === linuxpoet [~jd@clbb-248.saw.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] for dillo users: do you have https enabled? how did you do that? [04:13] i may have broken ubuntu somehow [04:13] anybody here use modpython? [04:13] ChurcH_of_FoamY: That is so strange [04:13] dabaR, i have. it's the folks that made firefox. [04:13] bigfoot1: it's the gecko renderer and enough extra bits to make it a stand-alone browser [04:13] bigfoot1: epiphany and galeon and kaze, all need mozilla for its gecko engine [04:14] yea i know [04:14] i thought it was install and go but somehow it's not and i don't know why [04:14] woot, foamy \o/ [04:14] bigfoot1: then why the two questions? === erikp [~epukinsk@156-56-93-50.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [04:14] ah, another thing. Let's say I download a file, how do I write it to my root filesystem? [04:14] ChurcH_of_FoamY: How are you trying to hit the samba machine, just with Windows Explorer? [04:14] but i'm gonna go to bed now i will see you laterz [04:14] Kikinator: use sudo [04:14] dabaR, i just didid'nt understand why another browser was necessary when i asked for epiphany. [04:14] Kikinator: root filesystem? [04:14] ChurcH_of_FoamY: sleep well [04:14] you mean, as a root user? [04:15] ChurcH_of_FoamY: OK, sorry I took so long getting back on, I got called back in to work half way home!! :-( [04:15] so I would copy the file from it's original location then? [04:15] ok, you asked differently, but yeah, like they said,. [04:15] Kikinator: you might want to resize your /home partition if you find it cramped === aarcane [~suzann@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] firefox is one with the web [04:15] ChurcH_of_FoamY, I think what it does is use the Mozilla engine and put it's own front end on it [04:15] yes, it sure is. === idunno [~chatzilla@pool-71-109-161-21.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] it uses web languages and code for basic things [04:15] like UI [04:16] yeah, only 2 GB [04:16] XD [04:16] do I use fdisk or cfdisk? [04:16] I want dillo to work with https webpages. it said: " *** Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled now *** If you want to test this alpha support code, just remove line 56 from https.c, recompile and reinstall.(beware that this https support is very limited now)." How exactly do i do this? please help, fellow dillo users. [04:16] Kikinator: your choice [04:16] or can I switch to windows and use partition magic? [04:16] cfdisk is a graphical front end to fdisck [04:16] no c [04:16] bigfoot1: dillo suX0rs, imho [04:16] Kikinator: yeah [04:16] nalioth, did you say "sucks"? === killapop [allan@220.226.8.134] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] dabaR: what? cfdisk is a curses based fdisk === mephisto [~k45pass@pcp0011971569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] bigfoot1: well, I mean, it tells you right there. [04:17] bigfoot1: yes i did, dillo imho SUX [04:17] oh ok, thanks! ^^ === adwait [~adwait@59.182.8.121] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] nalioth: is it not? [04:17] hey ppl [04:17] Kikinator: partition magic is always the best [04:17] yo adwait. [04:17] i am trying kazehakase with gmail. and gmail says "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser." What's up? [04:17] it can work Partition Magic [04:17] *_Magic_ [04:17] dabaR: cfdisk is a terminal curses fdisk client [04:18] well, between three trips to the forums, using google of course, two bits of hacked together information, and compiles from source.. well.. wlan works :D [04:18] bigfoot1: gmail doesen't specifically support that browser [04:18] bigfoot1: use a supported browser,.,. [04:18] dabaR: the only graphical fdisk i know is gparted or qtparted [04:18] it supports Firefox and IE and Mozilla because so many people use it === jtgameover [~jtgameove@D-128-208-151-220.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] curses graphical, same thing. [04:18] its a gui [04:18] bigfoot1: any gecko based browser is gmail compatible [04:18] just a terminal gui [04:18] is it possible to install ubuntu on another drive from within another distro? [04:18] firefox === linuxpoet [~jd@clbb-248.saw.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:18] daba: there's no such thing as a terminal GUI [04:18] dabaR: no its not an X gui [04:19] bigfoot1, dillo is an emergency hack and crack browser.. it just does html and nothing else. no css, no sessions, no cookies. it does jack shit. :) === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] dabaR, Razor-X, nalioth: you mean kazehakase is not a gecko-based browser? [04:19] just use qtparted [04:19] cures is a CLI [04:19] its pretty good [04:19] well, so arent any osx or windows apps an X GUUI [04:19] that sounds like links [04:19] does anyone know how to use vnc? when i vnc to another box, all i get is an ugly black-white pixels screen with an "X" cursor and i can't do anything [04:19] dabaR: by your definition, ANY app that runs in a terminal or Xserver is 'graphical' [04:19] aarcane, somebody in this chatroom recommended dillo to me, that's why i downloaded it. [04:19] same thing. [04:19] bigfoot1: that has nothing to do with it, Kazehakase is not specifically supported [04:19] is it possible to access an NTFS partition and the files on it? [04:19] bigfoot1: kaze is gecko based [04:19] bigfoot1, it's main purpose is as an emergency tool to go google or forum searching when you can't get things working right [04:19] Kikinator: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically [04:19] Kikinator: read-only at the moment === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] any app that is object oriented rather than procedural, and makes pictures, yes [04:20] nalioth, if kaze is geckobased, then why can't gmail give me the "full-viewing experience"? [04:20] dabaR: a GUI is something different from a CLI, and there are programs that don't use CLI either [04:20] but can I copy the files from the NTFS partition to the ext2 partition? [04:20] bigfoot1: because it's not specifically supported!!! [04:20] aarcane, i see. i guess i'll be deleting dillo. [04:20] I mean, I dont know the exact definition, or if it would fit, but, it sure is a gui to me. [04:20] bigfoot1: because kaze is made by the inscrutable japanese [04:20] hey peeps. What was the program or decoder used to DVDs again? [04:20] bigfoot1: it's a choice on their part, not an intrinsic thing === marco_ [~marco@200-126-96-59.bk7-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] Kikinator: yes [04:20] Kikinator, you can easily copy files from ntfs --> ext2 [04:20] dabaR: text is graphical [04:20] dabaR: in an exact definition, curses is a CLI, X is a GUI, and stuff like cat are just terminal apps [04:20] bigfoot1: it may support all the features but Gmail doesnt know it right? the programmers must have hardcoded the specific HTTP_USER_AGENT responses tht gmail likes [04:20] Razor-X, but nalioth says all gmail is looking for is a gecokobased browser. i'm confused. [04:20] www.yahoo.es === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:21] marco_: no [04:21] adwait, gotcha. [04:21] bigfoot1: kaze doesn't report itself as a supported browser in its HTTP header. Therefore, Gmail does not detect it as a supported browser, even though it uses the same engine as a supported browser. [04:21] now eeven though ur gecko based..they dunno [04:21] whatever you wanna ccall it. [04:21] because there is some files on an NTFS parition that I need but I don't know how to copy them to my /home directory [04:21] what's the decoder used to decode DVDs? [04:21] dabaR: when one says 'graphical' re computers, one means with a Xserver or other point-and-click-with-mouse interface [04:21] why then was kazehakase a browser that was recommended to me? hmmm. [04:21] something something css? [04:21] Razor-X: how come you are so exact, where did you get this exact definition? [04:21] dabaR: just don't call 'emacs' 'vi', or vice versa === redir [~reed@216-15-53-11.c3-0.grg-ubr2.lnh-grg.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] bigfoot1: sue me, i've never used it with gmail [04:21] bigfoot1: i use galeon predominantly [04:21] nalioth, peace, my friend. [04:22] nalioth, okay i'll install that. [04:22] too. [04:22] MidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss in backports for one,. [04:22] Razor-X: just dont get too big of a head. [04:22] dabaR: read works on usability and accessibility [04:22] oh, maybe a dumb question but...does ubuntu allow you to emerge kde instead of GNOME? [04:22] dabaR: =/ where can i find it? cuz I didn't see it in synaptic? [04:22] what's the command line to uninstall dillo? [04:22] I erm.. get an error from VFS when I try to boot about no ext3 filesystem.. I have a reiserfs /, and don't know how to.... well, I think you know what I'm saying [04:22] bigfoot1: you're better off with galeon anyway. kaze has some strange package incompatabilities. [04:22] backports I said. [04:22] bigfoot1: apt-get remove [04:22] !backports [04:22] I heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ [04:22] bigfoot1: sudo apt-get remove dillo [04:22] yes [04:23] i must have like 500 apps selected for download [04:23] malakhi, okay, i'll remove dillo and kaze. I'm in Japan actually. I wonder if three ar eany bnefeits for using a browser made by japanese people. [04:23] Razor-X: that was not a sentence I can understand. read works on usability... [04:23] nalioth, galeon also uses mozilla, doesn't it? [04:23] !info dillo [04:23] dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB [04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: use epiphany over galeon [04:23] DonL: correct === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] epiphany is more feature-packed than galeon? [04:23] bigfoot1: no [04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: quite the opposite [04:23] bigfoot1: not really, most bilingual speakers have added language packs to popular browsers [04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: epiphany is faster and more HIG compliant [04:23] why not just use firefox? === adwait wonders why nobody recomends firefox? its the most widely used one, has the maximum plugins, extnetions, plugins, support === ch_604 [~andrej@aa2002110879005.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] epiphany is just much nicer than galeon [04:24] Konqeuror rulZ j00 a11 === hosler [~hosler@AC839C97.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] ColonelKernel: because it is bloated and ponderous [04:24] adwait, because as nalioth told me today, fx has memory leaks. [04:24] adwait: I dont like apps that run in windows myself... [04:24] adwait: he already said he doesn't want to use firefox [04:24] bigfoot1: epiphany is actually pretty weak compared to a gecko based browser at the moment. it won't work with gmail either. [04:24] elinks [04:24] so do i find libdvdcss in the backports?? [04:24] Um... is there anyway to change my GTK1 theme? [04:24] anyone? [04:24] djm62:k [04:24] MidNightRaVeN: yes/. [04:24] epiphany isn't a geckobased browser? [04:24] i thought it was. [04:24] dabaR: k, thx === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] qt2: um, net install? [04:24] bigfoot1: i think the memoryleak thing was fixed.......with ver 1.0.2 itself [04:24] adwait: also has the most memory leaks, its bloated, and other flaws === ultrahex [~ultrahex@CPE00095b574485-CM001225401352.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] bigfoot1, it is [04:25] bigfoot1: you we4re right [04:25] MidNightRaVeN: after you update your apt (after adding the BP lines in your sources.list) [04:25] !info resolution [04:25] dabaR, to install something on the same comp? [04:25] MidNightRaVeN: you open a term and type "apt-cache search libdvd" [04:25] nalioth: does it matter how many sources i have in my source list? [04:25] er [04:25] gnome needs a good webkit based browser === SDFH_Linux [~moo@adsl-065-006-180-151.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] MidNightRaVeN: yes and no [04:25] qt2: I havfe debian, windows, and ubuntu on this one [04:25] adwait: on the other hand, if it works for you, don't sweat it ;) [04:25] malakhi, are you sure epiphany won't work well with gmail? === rlo [~reed@216-15-53-11.c3-0.grg-ubr2.lnh-grg.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] djm62: :)..... [04:26] Got a question to ask everyone [04:26] ch_604: what are you after? its !resolution [04:26] nalioth: =/ so basically keep it pretty empty to keep from conflicts from happening? [04:26] Thazza: shoot [04:26] Thazza: one for each, or one for all? [04:26] VMWARE asks for the kernel headers for my kernel, but I cant download the kernel source from ubuntus file manager. Should I just go to kernel.com and get it there? [04:26] bigfoot1: well, that was my fault. i'm on gmail now, and it seems to work ok. [04:26] MidNightRaVeN: after you are done getting libdvdcss2, you should comment out the lines with 'backports' in them (with a # at the beginning of the line) [04:26] !resolution [04:26] rumour has it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [04:26] malakhi, okay, so just a false alarm. Whew! 8-) [04:26] I have a couple fo usb external HDD's that are NTFS, was wondering how reliable it would be using Ubuntu on my main machine, when i transfer a lot of data back and forth from the externals! [04:27] nalioth: kk [04:27] hosler: i DOnt think so. [04:27] thx naolith [04:27] hosler: you need the ubuntu kernel source [04:27] hosler: linux-headers is the package you want [04:27] blah, screw it, reboot time. [04:27] Thazza: no writing to ntfs, no safe at least. [04:27] Thazza: reliable meaning what? [04:27] Thazza: writing to NTFS causes NTFS data loss [04:27] qt2: reboot time>? [04:27] Thazza: can you use FAT32? [04:27] anyone know how to make ssh user accounts for people - with *extremely* limited access [04:27] dabaR, & nalioth THis is what i thought [04:27] dabaR, to install ubuntu. [04:27] hi , where can i find packages for gnustep for ubuntu ? [04:27] Thazza: it's the lowest common denominator [04:28] BeatYou: doesnt ssh accounts use the system user accounts? [04:28] qt2: then yes.:) [04:28] adwait: probably, how do i make users then ? via ssh [04:28] BeatYou: just remove the groups from the user, the ones you dont want them to be part of. [04:28] BeatYou: how limited? you could create a group with very few privileges [04:28] djm63: i look and the package manager says they are installed in /usr/include/linux, but vmware doesnt like that location saying its for glibc stuff and not the real headers. [04:28] BeatYou: adduser [04:28] dabaR, heh, i dont want to install a boot manager though, that's the problem, since i've already got grub set up via gentoo. [04:28] BeatYou: system > admin > users and groups (and watch the tabs for 'access") [04:28] BeatYou: via ssh........ssh as root and then adduser [04:28] thans [04:28] BeatYou: you make user either through the system>admin menu or adduser username in a terminal [04:28] thanks [04:28] im about to download 470 apps haha [04:29] w00t! [04:29] djm62, Issue with that 4 gig limit on Fat 32. The drivers are 2 * 200 gig and a 160 gb, only one of the 200Gb drives has 2 partitions. They are used to store different data. Sometimes being a 4.7 Gig iso [04:29] nalioth: the ubuntu package manager only gives me an option to download 2.4 source, but i need the 2.6 source. [04:29] i did: "sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser" but still no epiphany in my menu. What's up? [04:29] p8ntballer100822: and then use them all at the same time> [04:29] Thazza: you have files over 4gb? [04:29] bigfoot1: try the commandline... [04:29] yea haha [04:29] nalioth, DVD images. ;-) [04:29] bigfoot1: it has to be there, gnome? apps>internet. [04:29] hosler: ah [04:29] me and my 100 arms === Jormundgand [~jormundga@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust11.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] Thazza: wow, I didn't realise FAT32 was so limited. [04:29] Thazza: try qemu [04:29] dabar, no it's not in apps>internet, unfortunately. [04:30] weird, mine is:P [04:30] add it. [04:30] dabaR, doesnt ubuntu automatically install a boot manager? [04:30] Thazza: qemu + samba [04:30] qt2: yes [04:30] there is a add/remove programs.. [04:30] woot !! sweet apps here i come [04:30] qt2: yes, grub [04:30] qt2:^ === hkdev [~hkdev@cm166.delta75.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [04:30] im sorry i have to rephrase my question.. i know where they are , but how do i make synaptic or the applicaiton manager find them automatically? [04:30] bigfoot1: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser doesn't get it? [04:30] Hey group! Totem won't fire up for me when trying to view some streaming media. Where should I look to fix this problem? [04:30] bigfoot1: you can add apps to the menus. [04:30] well, is there a way to disable the installing of grub? :P [04:30] bigfoot1: in terminal, try typing ephiphany (or whtever the command is) and if it starts up, u can add it to the app menu [04:30] mephisto: what did it do? [04:31] idunno: have you downloaded them manually? === Jormundgand [~jormundga@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust11.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] epiphany is the command. === eno [~eno@HSE-Toronto-ppp316062.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] i wish i had a laptop :( [04:31] nalioth: for the backports, how should the line look? like this: [04:31] nalioth: [04:31] deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp? [04:31] bigfoot1: it should be in teh app menu already [04:31] qt2: you dont want that, it will make entries to allow other OSs to be loaded. [04:31] MidNightRaVeN: don't paste in here [04:31] MidNightRaVeN: use #flood or a pastebin [04:31] nalioth, Hmm interesting.. looks like more than i have the time to learn. atm.. I think i will just continue to run, a windows box, and a ubuntu box [04:31] hi, um.... how do I change the settings in gnome so that the active window is the one the mouse is over? (like the olds days) [04:31] MidNightRaVeN: backports.ubuntuforums.org will tell you exactly. [04:31] just type #flood and what i want to paste? [04:32] Thazza: both at the same time? different boxes? [04:32] eno: that's window manager behaviour [04:32] dabaR: "Totem could not start up. Resource busy of not available" [04:32] eno there is an option somewhere, Ill get it. [04:32] MidNightRaVeN: no, you join the channel #flood [04:32] All: I would reformat the drives as ext3 yet then the windows boxs (friends and others) i use them on would not see the data [04:32] thank you. [04:32] thazza, why dont you dual boot? so you can run windoze and linux [04:32] MidNightRaVeN: and then paste in that channel [04:32] dabaR:*or* [04:32] nalioth: o, kk [04:32] are there any other filesystems common to linux and windows? [04:32] p8ntballer100822: Thazza needs both OS' at the same time [04:32] nalioth, Different boxes.. One in office, one in bedroom, for late night research. :-) [04:32] djm62: fat32 is all i know [04:32] oic [04:32] hmmm.... [04:33] Thazza: then you should be able to use sambe [04:33] mephisto: likely a sound thing. [04:33] samba [04:33] !ssh [04:33] hmm... ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/" [04:33] the saddest part is, FAT is the skinniest filesystem ;) === X7C [~xtc@pc-43-180-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] dabaR: like no sound card, no work? [04:33] yea i havent really been paying attention to these convos === Go_pLastic [~lumberjac@65-194-31-213.block4.gvtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] nalioth, Thats what i have been doing.. Yet i would really like to get rid of the windows box.. Totally. :D [04:33] anyone here use cedega? [04:33] downloading file 18 of 470..... [04:33] try killall esd and then try the app again, that will kill your sound in other apps for that session, though, unless you type in esd in a terminal and keep it open. [04:33] Thazza, when I got a separate computer for Linux I was a happy camper. [04:34] Thazza: So two Ubuntu boxes and you're there :-) [04:34] Thazza: 'borrow' a copy of partition magic and convert your drives to ext2/3 === DonL is now known as DonLbrb [04:34] can I go into the source code? [04:34] bddebian, Thats what i would like.. I have one current box, and then the windows box in office.. that the USB hdd's are connected to. [04:34] eno: For what? [04:34] I promise I won't edit it, I just want to see it [04:34] i have a windows box... but i rarely use it. i dont really need it for anything === nomasteryoda [~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] malakhi, it does get the browser, but it does'nt put it into my menu. [04:35] eno: System>Prefs>Windows. [04:35] eno: You can edit it, that is what Free Software is al about [04:35] oh, wait, sorry. it is in the menu. [04:35] thank you dabaR [04:35] nalioth, Can't do this to other peoples Drives.. (windows) so then their machines can't see my USB drives [04:35] welcome [04:35] bigfoot1: my misunderstanding. [04:35] i just was looking alphabetically. [04:35] bigfoot1: if it isnt there nwo, it should show up when you restart your xserver [04:35] it is on the top of the list. [04:35] errr, anyone know where the advanced config files for ssh users are ? like to lock them in home dir [04:35] yeah, editing dsomething like that isn't for someone with my programming skil [04:35] you guys wanna see my sweet ass paint job on my computer thay isnt really that sweet cause i painted it? [04:35] I need the 2.6.10 kernel source but synaptic doesnt have it in its database, where can i get the ubunti 2.6.10 kernel source. [04:35] Thazza: you are stuck with the windows ball-and-chain [04:35] p8ntballer100822, Well the only reason i have the windows box now, is cause of the NTFS usb drives [04:35] djm62: there are no file systems 'common' to linux and windows, but linux can read windows file systems [04:35] hosler: Hoary? [04:36] nalioth, Saddly Yes. :-( === tyas [~cahya@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] oic [04:36] Thazza: UNLESS you convert your whole office to ubuntu! [04:36] bddebian: i have all the repositories in allready. [04:36] fellow Gmail users: what program do you use to be notified of new email? [04:36] so do I have to download the sourcecode or is it already on my system? === Thazza starts work at designing a common file system.. ;-D [04:36] BeatYou: you would prolly change the permissions for folders to sudo chmod -r or -R / o-rwx [04:36] dont do that yet tho. [04:36] why do you have usb drives?? why not buy internal drives [04:36] BeatYou: read man ssh.......it has all u want i think [04:36] bigfoot1: firefox [04:36] bigfoot1: http://toolbar.google.com/gmail-helper/index?promo=gdl-en [04:36] bigootl: gmail notifier or Thunderbird [04:36] nalioth, And my friends. :-) and my works computers. [04:36] eno: the source code for waht? [04:36] bigfoot1: or thunderbird [04:36] p8ntballer100822: for data portability in the office === xlsMessenger [~Friendshi@202.137.11.212] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] the whole OS [04:37] thanks adwait [04:37] hosler: OK but I was asking what you are running. You aren't on Warty are you? [04:37] p8ntballer100822, Portable.. Take to work, Friends. [04:37] np BeatYou [04:37] I want to take a look around in it [04:37] oic === nomasteryoda [~nomastery@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] Thazza: shipit.ubuntu.com will send you as many disks as you like [04:37] Danar: FAT32 is common insofar as both windows and linux can create, read, and write it [04:37] Thazza: and they are fancy pressed ones, with fancy graphical pacakges [04:37] Danar, yes firefox makes an extension, but i just switched from Firefox today. [04:37] heres the pic of my computer with its crappy custom paint job [04:37] bddebian: I dont know waht warty is, so I dont think so. [04:37] http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=0 [04:37] natively, rather [04:37] BeatYou, that toolbar is only for windows. [04:37] bigfoot1: good job [04:37] djm62: no, you can't run linux on fat32, so it's not common. linux can also do ntfs though === Mr_Smiley [~smiley@CPE-144-136-186-183.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] eno: "the whole OS" is a little misleading. Do you want to look at kernel source or for a particular package? [04:37] BeatYou: well, I would do what I said, and then add a user, see if he can leave his directory, and thats it [04:37] anyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great [04:37] nalioth, Not my work computrs.. No permission to wipe., and the old windows users would freak. lol [04:37] bigfoot1... errr sorry [04:37] haha [04:37] BeatYou, and i don't want to take away more real estate from the browser. [04:37] djm62: but there is a 4gb filesize limit with fat32 [04:38] bigfoot1: uh, _from_ firefox? [04:38] Razor-X, thank you very much! [04:38] bigfoot1, it is not a toolbar [04:38] bigfoot1: to what? [04:38] it runs in sysmte tray [04:38] hi [04:38] anyone here use cedega? [04:38] Thazza: www.xpde.org [04:38] but i forgot this is #ubuntu [04:38] hi [04:38] hi [04:38] hi [04:38] hi [04:38] bigfoot1: and why? [04:38] Danar, well, to epiphany and to galeon [04:38] nalioth, Also i am waiting for the 30 cd's i ordered about 1 month ago. [04:38] Go_pLastic: not many do === Mephy [~Roel@d51A42AE6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] i know you guys are jelous of my sweet computer with awsome paintjob "sarcasm" [04:38] http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=0 [04:38] bddebian: sorry... I am not entirely sure... I just thought it would be cool to take a look [04:38] danar, i switched from fx because nalioth told me of the memory leaks. [04:38] Razor-X, do you? [04:38] Thazza: ah, well, when they arrive, have fun converting folks [04:38] Danar: I have ran linux on fat323 [04:38] Go_pLastic: nopes [04:38] bigfoot1: i have never had a problem with it [04:38] fx makes my pc run slow after a while. I would have to restart it every so many hours. === nickrud [~nickrud@ppp-66-140-227-111.dialup.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] djm62: UMSDOS, IIRC [04:39] bigfoot1: i leave firefox running for days at a time, sometimes. no probs [04:39] Razor-X, cool thanks [04:39] Danar: how much ram is on your system? [04:39] nalioth: 512 [04:39] Razor-X: dat de one, useful for usb-stick boots [04:39] same here [04:39] i have 256 ram on mine. [04:39] same here [04:39] hosler: From a terminal try this: "apt-cache dump |grep kernel-tree-2.6" [04:39] what is the point of the camou computer by the way? why do people do that? I would paint mine to be a monkey [04:39] Danar: bigfoot1: if your puters are much differnt, they will act differently [04:39] bigfoot1: which version of ff did u havee? [04:39] eno: dunno, whatever floats someone's boat [04:39] so let me ask again: Gmail users, what do you use for new mail notification? [04:39] nalioth, LOL.. also that link is dead.. well in german. lol [04:39] eno: some people play those war ganmes, and think war is cool, dunno. [04:40] adwait, um, how do i check version of fx? [04:40] Thazza: crap, i cant remember if its com or org [04:40] djm62: fat32 doesn't support permissions and things necessary for linux. i call bs. you used a VM or something? [04:40] bigfoot1: a browser. personally. [04:40] yeah I guess [04:40] bigfoot1: in ff, Help>About [04:40] bddebian: I did that and didnt get any output response. [04:40] Thazza: it's a dead-ringer copy of XP linux desktop mangler [04:40] hosler: Sorry, that should be "kernel-source-2.6" [04:40] ok [04:40] Thazza: xpde [04:40] Danar: it's kind of rude to "call bs". google umsdos [04:40] hmmm.. [04:40] nalioth, .com works better [04:40] Danar: and this is #ubuntu, keep the attitude calm :) [04:40] bigfoot1: you can setup gmail in a pop3 client, thunderbird for example [04:40] anybody need a gmail invite... lol [04:40] !info mozilla-firefox hoary [04:40] mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB [04:40] Thazza: i am somwhat frazzled atm [04:40] p8ntballer100822, no thanks, i think 50 is enough for me [04:41] djm62: not rude at all. didn't sound 'coshure' to me, so i called you on it. [04:41] adwait, i use version 1.0.2 [04:41] bddebian: Package: kernel-source-2.6.1 [04:41] Package: kernel-source-2.6.9 [04:41] Depends: kernel-source-2.6.9 (null) [04:41] Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null) [04:41] Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null) [04:41] Depends: kernel-source-2.6.1 (null) [04:41] djm62: no attitude [04:41] oh ok [04:41] how is it optional? [04:41] Package: kernel-source-2.6 [04:41] support in this channel takes a lot out of you [04:41] Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null) [04:41] oops [04:41] nalioth, Needing sleep? [04:41] hosler: Please don't post in here :-) [04:41] hosler: please dont flood [04:41] BeatYou, but i'd rather use the web version of gmail. [04:41] hosler: please do not paste more than 3 lines of output in this channel === shuziokae [~code10@218.208.200.187] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] nalioth, Or just a trip away. [04:41] bigfoot1: hmm....well i though the mem leak was fixed by that time...... [04:41] didnt mean to [04:41] s/post/flood :-) [04:41] Thazza: i've been in #ubuntu for many hours this week [04:41] bddebian: perl or vi? or both? ;) [04:41] BeatYou, are there any benefits of downloading one's gmail onto one's pc, rather than reading/writing on gmail.com+ [04:41] ? [04:41] Danar: well, I'm sure you've googled it now. for any purpose I can think of FAT32 is common to both, but sadly crippled :-/ [04:42] bigfoot1, not to me, i use the browser version as well [04:42] Razor-X: Neither :-) [04:42] djm62: it's a tad bit worse than ext2 [04:42] djm62: yep. clever hack. [04:42] BeatYou, so what do you use to be notified of new email? [04:42] bddebian: then why the stereotypical usage of vi/perl regular expressions? === ega [~cahya@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] nalioth, That XP clone looks good.. now if i could just work out how to run MYOB on linux.. and i could convert someone else i know. [04:42] Razor-X: that's why I don't use it ;) [04:42] bigfoot1: are you on broadband? [04:42] what does any gmail user in this chatroom use to be notified of new email in their gmail acconut? === Invisible_Magi [~Invisible@165.154.121.241] has joined #Ubuntu [04:42] dude... i can't get the backports to work... i can't get it to reload cuz i keep getting an error that it couldn't download the repository... [04:42] nalioth, yes, i a m. [04:42] Download file 63 of 470...... [04:42] Thazza: wine, or cedega [04:42] bigfoot1, i only run ubuntu for server, i run everything else (including gmail notifier) in windows [04:42] Razor-X: Oh, that.. That's hangovers from the antiquated vi days.. :-) [04:42] MidNightRaVeN: join ##apple [04:42] BeatYou, windows OS? [04:43] bddebian: as I thought ;) [04:43] oooo [04:43] nalioth: what's there? [04:43] i'm an emacs user, no s/'s for me ;) [04:43] heh [04:43] bigfoot1: XP ? [04:43] bigfoot1: then it matters only to you whether you d/l your gmail or use the browser [04:43] hi [04:43] nalioth, Good idea.. except the cost.. lol.. Commerial Business. will research and try at home. [04:43] MidNightRaVeN: YOU will be [04:43] wow, I thought it was an ed-ism [04:43] Hello shuziokae [04:43] nalioth, i don't understand. [04:43] Thazza: site license [04:43] nalioth: i know... but why would i want to be there? [04:44] cause he called you./ [04:44] bigfoot1: if you're on dialup, you might wish to d/l your gmail to a local mail client, so u didnt have to dial up each time to check [04:44] i just use the gmail website to view my mail, i setup evolution and i dont like the interface [04:44] Thazza: cost of what? [04:44] MidNightRaVeN: for HELP, maybe? === paul_ [~paul@host-142-204-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] hosler: Are you sure you aren't running Warty? [04:44] what is a sure way to check? [04:44] does ubuntu support pci-express graphics cards? ati [04:44] tell him how to check. [04:44] Danar, Wine to run MYIOB premier on a 6 machine network. [04:44] who here watches aots on g4tv???? [04:45] here's my problem: i want to be notified of new gmail, and i do know that there's an applet for the panel. I think it's called new-mail-notification, but after google changed the url, it doesn't work anymore, that's why I'm asking any gmail user here what they use to be notified of new gmail. is there another applet made by ubuntu, gnome, or gtk, or some linux person that does this job? [04:45] dabaR: I don't know in Ubuntu :-) I used to just cat /etc/debian_version :-) === billytwowilly [~billy@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] Thazza: then i take it you don't mean cost as in money [04:45] hosler: same, anyhow, in gnome, System>About ubuntu === whyameye [~whyameye@209-6-158-100.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] bddebian: same, hosler: in gnome... [04:45] brb === IceDC571 [~IceDC571@c-67-160-241-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] bigfoot1: the url isn't configurable? [04:45] dabaR: Breezy is 3.1? === rahmat [~cahya@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] bddebian: im running the Hoary Hedgehog release [04:46] Danar, Well accually i was talking about the cost of money... They are very tight people when it comes to cost. lol. Should have been how hard it was to convice them to purchase legal copies. [04:46] I'm trying to use Kino with my firewire videocamera. I can't seem to capture the video. I get from Kino: "WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1... [04:46] hiiii [04:46] Thazza: uh, wine is free [04:46] back [04:46] danar, well, new-mail-notification applet has a special section just for gmail users. danar, could you try it on your system? [04:46] hosler: That is strange, you should at least have 2.6.10 [04:46] bigfoot1: not on gnome [04:46] or even, alt+ctrl+f5 will tell you which version you have [04:46] hosler: If you do "uname -i" what kernel version are you running currently? [04:47] Does anyone dare me to delete vmlinuz? [04:47] Danar, Really?? Where? Last i heard it was a charge,.. Bugger you mean i have been looking at wrong place. [04:47] i'm on gnome, danar, are you saying new-mail-notification (NMN) won't work in gnome? [04:47] Thazza: uh, try apt-get install wine [04:47] eno: Sure, go ahead :-) [04:47] eno: I dont. [04:47] what is this "new mail notification applet" is this for windows of linux???? [04:47] bigfoot1: _i'm_ not on gnome [04:47] eno: Or better yet "rm -rf /" [04:47] bigfoot1: i'm not even on ubuntu [04:47] what does rm -rf do? === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] p8ntballer100822, for linux [04:47] Thazza: cedega-cvs is free [04:47] bddebian: 2.6.10-5-386 [04:47] do I need the "/"? [04:48] Thazza: i'd pay for it, tho for the support [04:48] eno: heh. i hope you're joking [04:48] bigfoot1: where can i download it [04:48] p8ntballer100822, what do you mean "windows _of_ linux"? did you mean "or" === DonLbrb is now known as DonL [04:48] yes... you called my bluff [04:48] Whats the mp3 player of choice around here? [04:48] hosler: Then you have to be able to get the source. [04:48] Danar, www.winehq.com ? Oh bugger i have been as well. [04:48] bigfoot1: i meant or [04:48] eno: :) === Moppin [~Moppin@d14-69-103-39.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] bddebian: I looked all over synaptic. Can i get it off of the ubuntu website? [04:48] Danar, Will take a look later.. about to go out for pool, and drinks with a mate [04:48] eno: rm is remove -r means recursive, -f means force. / means from the root directory :-) [04:48] Aerebus: for Gnome, muine or rhythmbox. for KDE, Amarok. Those are all iTunes-like. For either, beep-media-player (Winamp clone) [04:48] anybody out there using a videocamera with firewire on ubuntu? [04:48] hosler: what're you looking for? [04:49] hosler: Have you done an update? [04:49] rm is delete, -r means recursive, so delete any subfolders and everything, -f forces deletion of read only and protected files, / is your root. So, in translation, you would force recursive delete of anything under root. [04:49] bddebian: also known as the 'noob virus' [04:49] Thazza: try "apt-get install wine" for wine. there's also cedega, which is not free, but the source is available for you to compile yourself. google cvscedega for that [04:49] hey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies? [04:49] Razor-X: Hehe [04:49] nalioth, Will look at that one later. [04:49] Razor-x: the 2.6 kernel source [04:49] bigfoot1: so its for linux... can you give me the link to download [04:49] bddebian: yeah [04:49] fyou bddebian :) [04:49] Danar, & nalioth [04:49] Seth_K, i heard about xmms from a guy at work is that one no good? [04:49] hosler: it should be there [04:49] I wrote the whole thing for nothing. [04:49] ok [04:49] p8ntballer100822, hold on, please. i'm searching. i forgot. [04:49] hey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies? [04:49] Danar, & nalioth : Grr.. Sorry.. Was going to say.. Thanks guys.. :D [04:49] Aerebus: beep-media-player is an updated xmms, and is better [04:49] Aerebus: xmms is getting outdated [04:49] I mean, not f you in a bad way, just I wish you a good night, with girls... === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] dabaR: ?? [04:49] bigfoot1: ok [04:49] how do i get my CD to play... [04:50] bddebian: would that actually remove my root directory? that doesn't sound like it should be possible [04:50] dabaR: :-) [04:50] xmms looks and feals alot like winamp if you are familiar [04:50] Aerebus: they are all FREE, try them all, and keep what you like [04:50] Thazza: np :) [04:50] what if some bastard hacker did it to me :S [04:50] it would delete everything on your system [04:50] eno: That would pretty much remove everything on your diesk [04:50] disk even [04:50] ha, this time I beat you. [04:50] Thazza: just remember cvscedega. cedega is better for games [04:50] hehe [04:50] eno: make sure you know what you are putting "sudo" in front of [04:50] Downloading file 105 of 470 [04:50] so would the system still boot or just go to grub? [04:50] no sound....no cd working...how do i fix this [04:50] eno: cuz one press of the can wipe your system [04:51] Thazza: wine is better for general apps [04:51] nalioth: :P === ubuntu_ [~ubuntu@ool-44c48add.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] it would not boot. [04:51] one thing i liked about fx was the quick search in url bar. For example, if i typed "g ubuntu", it does a search in google.com for ubuntu. i wonder if we can get this feauture onto epihpany or galeon [04:51] Danar, tar.. not that the office running myob will need to play games. so wine is probaly better [04:51] hello people! [04:51] being in this room makes me think that a shop offering free everything would last a long time before running out [04:51] Thazza: doesn't hurt to get both [04:51] well, if you had another partition, that was not mounted when you rm, and has an os there, I think it would even boot. [04:51] ubuntu_: yo! === rahmat [~cahya@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] djm62: your logic is flawwed:) [04:52] Thazza: there's a script out there to download, compile & install cvscedega for you. look for that if you get it. wine should be in the repository [04:52] bigfoot1: galeon has that [04:52] Danar: he is gone [04:52] nalioth, thanks. [04:52] I am new to ubuntu, don't ignore me please! [04:52] oops [04:52] ubuntu_ hello. [04:52] ubuntu_: I said yo! [04:52] ubuntu_: how may we help you? [04:53] ok [04:53] I'm super green with linux/ubuntu. how do install software that I download? [04:53] ubuntu_: you haven't said much :p [04:53] how may we assist you on this fine day. [04:53] don't really need help, just excited :) [04:53] dabaR: I was joking...but I bet people's natural suspicion would really come into play === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-109.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:53] mephisto: you should install using apt-get not download... [04:53] ubuntu_: welcome :) [04:53] mephisto: easiest way to install software is via synaptic [04:53] djm62: ah, yes, tru. [04:53] mephisto: or in the terminal with apt-get [04:53] hello [04:53] mephisto: you should use synaptic for installing [04:53] or synaptic, yes, better for new users. [04:53] i have being using mandrake, it works great for me. I am runing live ubuntu right now. [04:54] ] p; [04:54] so I could do sudo apt-get, for example? [04:54] hey rahmat . [04:54] apt-get ROCKS === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] why synaptic over apt-get? [04:54] mephisto: yes [04:54] Hello rahmat [04:54] mephisto: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [04:54] hiii [04:54] mephisto: nicer interface [04:54] mephisto: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto === hajiki [~matt@cpe-66-27-221-26.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] i like aptitude myself [04:54] mephisto: synaptic is a GUI program, [04:54] mephisto: synaptic is a frontend for apt-get [04:54] mephisto: it provides a graphical interface and automation for apt-get [04:54] I'm getting MD5sum mistaches in 11 files when dist-upgrade Hoary. Is this a general issue or just me? === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.176.221.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] bddebian? [04:54] rahmat: Just saying hello [04:54] how can I switch to /proc/cpuinfo? [04:54] mephisto: if somebody tells you an apt-get command, you can mentally convert it into synaptic clicks [04:54] ok, i'm off to try and install emms [04:55] I want to see it! [04:55] eno: Switch to? [04:55] no one out there knows anything about 1394 with ubuntu, huh? [04:55] oooo [04:55] with cd! [04:55] my laptop keeps turning off the screen every few minutes (im on battery) how can i turn that feature off? (i've already disabled it from the screensaver applet) [04:55] eno: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] how do i search for a song in beep-media-player? [04:55] with dvd [04:55] Arrogance: I think you have us. in front of packages.ubuntu.com or whatever it is in sources.list [04:55] Anyone here use winetools? [04:55] dabaR, yes [04:55] remove, try again. [04:55] that's bad? [04:55] Seth_K, do i need to make a directory for rhythmbox? or will it make its own? i've never installed software in linuxbefore === Go_pLastic [~lumberjac@65-194-31-213.block4.gvtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] ok [04:55] ok. [04:55] p8ntballer100822, found it. it's called mail-notification. it's in the repository. [04:55] Aerebus: it will do its thing. [04:55] thanks again bddebian [04:55] Aerebus: just go to Synaptic and search for it [04:55] Aerebus: rhythmbox will take care of itself [04:56] somebody?anybody? how do i search a song in beep-media-player? [04:56] Aerebus: it'll do everything by itself [04:56] my oss and asla sound fails in p2p but it works in beep mp, im not too good with alsa so im not sure what i can do [04:56] all software goes in the same folder in linux, some part of it in one o\folder, other parts in other folders, [04:56] i have a creative live! ls [04:56] gonna try this stuff out.......will keep ya'll posted: djm62, Danar, nalioth, dabaR, nalioths_dog [04:56] bddebian: that's rules! [04:56] eno: NP [04:56] adwait, j [04:56] adwait: Dunno sorry [04:56] adwait: how do you search for it... [04:56] adwait, j is the hotkey j=jimp [04:56] mephisto: poke around the ubuntu sites. lots of useful info there [04:56] adwait, jump lol [04:56] thx [04:56] :) [04:56] np [04:56] :P [04:56] Seth, its not in Synaptic [04:56] When I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this? [04:57] shit [04:57] dabaR, that fixed it. Thanks [04:57] eno, what are you talking about "just rules"? [04:57] welcome. [04:57] hosler: Did you find the source? === mephisto6 [~k45pass@pcp0011971569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] nalioth: Not here man [04:57] the cpu info thing is great [04:57] It is exciting [04:57] bddebian: nope :( [04:57] yes, very exciting [04:57] bigfoot1: thanks :) [04:57] Thanks for the heads up on beep. Downloading it now. [04:57] Night for now [04:57] how do i disable m screen from turning off every few minutes [04:57] bddebian: was tryin to catch mephisto to warn against the 'guide === DonL [~don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:57] Danar: working on it.................... [04:58] p8ntballer100822, then after installing, it's at menu-->system-->preferences-->mail notification. [04:58] hajiki: why, like a screen saver thing? [04:58] Seth_K, ok i clicked on search and found the file, what button do i press next? [04:58] mephisto6: you still here? [04:58] nalioth: Ahh [04:58] dabaR, my screen keeps going blank, i turned off apm from the screen saver applet but it still keeps turning off === kaput [~kaput@YahooBB219042252017.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] Aerebus: check its box, then hit apply === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] bigfoot1: where is it... you mean synaptic pakage manager.... right? === egi [~egi@202.154.50.78] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] p8ntballer100822, yes [04:59] apm=power management? [04:59] Heya seth_k [04:59] p8ntballer100822,do a search for "mail-notification" [04:59] hiya bddebian [04:59] bigfoot1: ok ill install it later im downloading a bunch of stuff there now [04:59] dabaR: acpi is more common these days [04:59] bddebian: whatcha doing to get ready for next cc meeting? [04:59] my laptop does not have apm, it's acpi [04:59] hajiki: are you using gnome? [04:59] seth_k: I took a shower.. ;-P [04:59] dabaR: but apm is power management too [05:00] yes i'm using gnome [05:00] he said apm/ [05:00] :D [05:00] hajiki, take a look at zxcreensaver-demo and see if your setting the screen to blank System->preferences->Screensaver [05:00] then, you tried in the System>prefs>Screen saver window? [05:00] where is the alsa config file? [05:00] When I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this? [05:00] that is an important step bddebian [05:00] Seth_K, i dont think were on the same page sorry, i downloaded the sources from the website http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/download.html now i opened synaptic and clicked on search and it found rhythmbox-0.8.8.tar.gz what do i need to do? [05:01] seth_k: Well I've been trying to help in here, though I'm not sure I am helping any. :-) I also packaged python-pyrtf but I am getting some weird lintian error [05:01] galeon users: how can we put two toolbars onto the same horizontal area? [05:01] seth_k: yes, to keep the other cc members from falling off their stools [05:01] nalioth: indeed [05:01] where is the alsa config file? [05:01] Aerebus: you don't need to download anything manually [05:01] Aerebus: synaptic will do it all for you, just check the box for rhythmbox and hit apply [05:01] You two wouldn't think that was funny if you could smell my feet right now.. ;-P [05:01] gah. okay, no lectures about mp3s, please; in rhythmbox, I'm having artists and albums show up, but tracks never show up in the playlist, and rhythmbox is unable to play the mp3s. gstreamer-mad is installed, and totem is able to play mp3s...hm...wait... [05:01] bah [05:01] Where is it at? [05:01] bddebian: please be civil [05:01] Sorry [05:02] regeya: libmad0 [05:02] am I thinking right that totem should be able to read tags, even on evil ol' mp3s... [05:02] dabaR: Did you get that /msg? [05:02] Go_pLastic: i dunno.......but maybe try /etc/alsa/ [05:02] hm. [05:02] seth_k [05:02] bddebian: irssi, dont know how to see. [05:02] Ill try. brb === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:02] p8ntballer100822, by the way it's in universe repository. === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] Aerebus: it should appear in your menu [05:02] bah..... downloading file 173 of 470 cant wait until everything is installed and downloading [05:02] dougsk, i had not seen that option before (guess i'm blind). thank you [05:02] bigfoot1: ok [05:02] bddebian: what are you talking about? [05:02] what's the best way to contact backport maintainers? [05:02] dabaR: on your blue bar at the bottom you should see some numbers on the right side [05:03] downloaded* [05:03] hajiki, no worries, at least it's simple enough I can help [05:03] p8ntballer100822, done? [05:03] kaput: ubuntuforums [05:03] dabaR: I sent you a private /msg [05:03] bddebian: yes, I read it. [05:03] p8ntballer100822, all right! [05:03] please repeat it here in the channel. [05:03] dabaR: Oh === linuxpoet [~jd@clbb-248.saw.net] has joined #Ubuntu [05:03] seth_k: right, that would be /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1 [05:03] regeya: try gstreamer-properties [05:03] dabaR: It is not for all eyes :-) [05:03] dabaR: i figured so...i tried reporting a bug there, but can't seem to get a response... [05:03] Is there any Vampire packages out there in the Ubuntu-verse? [05:03] bddebian: then it is a lie.:) [05:03] regeya: set it to use ALSA/ESD [05:03] bigfoot1: done...? with what? [05:03] dabaR: Bah [05:03] p8ntballer100822, you said "downloaded" === whyameye [~whyameye@209-6-158-100.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] set for alsa [05:04] bddebian: wow are you lying? === Lord [~ki7yy@65.126.47.32] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] kaput: a contact us link on backports.ubuntuforums.org? [05:04] regeya: any luck now? === Trace [~Trace@221.219.27.170] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] dabaR: looked for one, but maybe i overlooked it...i'll try again...just a sec [05:04] bigfoot1: i said cant wait until<< it is downloaded [05:04] Seth_K ok i found it ;p it has a green square next to it, when i click on that square the only options it pops up are mark for reinstallation, mark for removal, mark for complete removal [05:04] bddebian: what are you lying about? [05:04] Aerebus: then it's already installed [05:04] nalioth: his /msg was: you seem to be helping a lot in the channel, are you interested in joining the ubuntu helper community...:-/ [05:04] Aerebus: it's in your applications menu > multimedia > music player [05:05] its not under applications? === jasmuz [~jasmuz@177sdl30m44.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] dabaR: so are you? [05:05] bigfoot1: im talking about all the files that i got from the universe though, not the mail notifer [05:05] seth_k same thing [05:05] Aerebus: it is isntalled with ubuntu [05:05] rhytmbox is. [05:05] adwait...let me try again...gstreamer seems to be able to play mp3s. the artists and albums show up in rhythmbox. I can play the mp3s in totem. but they never show up in the playlist in rhythmbox when I import 'em and rhythmbox bravely refuses to play them. but it seems to be the only app so affected. [05:05] Aerebus: : same thing [05:05] bigfoot1: i am going to download that later [05:05] Bah, I need a smoke [05:05] nalioth: what, so he is not just talking nonsense? [05:05] has anyone gotten visual studio 6.0 to work with wine yet? === tsunammis is away: Occup [05:05] hey everybody im leaving..... [05:05] ttyl [05:05] adwait: sorry :/ [05:05] see ya [05:06] BYE! [05:06] Do I seem unreliable or something? :-) [05:06] brb [05:06] Gnight dabaR === Nefarous [~wardj@197.232.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] dabaR: k...found a mailto: ... thanks. :) [05:06] ok === dabaR goes to do laundry [05:06] regeya: i believe totem doesnt use gstreamer.......so the prob should be in gstreamer, try setting gstreamer to use ESD/ALSA/OSS with gstreamer-properties and one of them should work [05:06] bye [05:06] see ya [05:06] hasta [05:06] Seth_K "no plugin installed to handle a mp3 [05:06] aifweidersein [05:06] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/powermanagement-interface/powermanagement-interface_0.3.2_i386.deb Connection failed [05:06] here we go again [05:06] or something [05:06] Aerebus: gstreamer0.8-mad i think [05:06] ! [05:06] regeya: I don't know, could you explain it? [05:06] nalioth: still here. did the apt-get from ubuntu wiki. went well. have to check on installed repositories [05:06] ... [05:06] ? [05:07] squinn: remove us. [05:07] i have only used linux for a short time but am thinking of going to Ubuntu... is it easy for a new user? [05:07] err how do i view a README.gz - comes up scrambled in nano === jocco [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === jocco is now known as BeefTube [05:07] Lord: Ubuntu is quite easy [05:07] Is there a preferred way to tune which services get started at boot? (i.e. I see messages for LVM and Raid that I assume I don't need) [05:07] Lord: yes [05:07] TY [05:07] Aerebus: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-* [05:07] and enable universe first [05:07] mephisto6: yes, stay away from ubuntuguide (not all ubuntu sites are friendly) [05:07] BeatYou: zcat Readme.gz | less [05:07] !repositories [05:07] [repositories] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [05:07] dabaR, I know what to do. It's just an "uhhhh..." [05:07] that page will tell you how. [05:07] seth_k thanks [05:07] Success!! ubuntu works on my big fat 64bit system now 8) [05:08] is there ati drivers automaticaly installed with AMD64 hoary? [05:08] squinn: ah. [05:08] dabaR, I'm just copying and pasting. [05:08] Lord: this isn't a very neutral room to ask ;) but ubuntu is great === x55 [~x55@ip68-12-31-242.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] Seth, do i need to relogin to X? [05:08] hehe [05:08] did hoary switch to totem-xine by default, or is adwait wrong? [05:09] Hi! :D Is there any way to change the GTK1 theme? [05:09] !wireless [05:09] somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards [05:09] nalioth: noted...... [05:09] Thank you... tried Xandros and like it... but have heard about Ubuntu and want to try it. [05:09] regeya: hmm....no answer, but in all likelyhood i might be wrong :) [05:10] hey guys, ubuntu repository has only version 1.01 of mail-notification, but there is a more recent version at http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mail-notification.html. How do i download this updated version. THank you for helping a newbie! [05:10] Just got my wireless card working, WG511 ... using ndiswrapper ... didn't have to compile any source either, used the drivers off the CD that came with the card [05:10] !info totem hoary [05:10] Lord: will cost you pennies, and the community is generally good [05:10] totem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB [05:10] Lord: i've tried a bunch too... ubuntu is the best i've seen so far. [05:10] i see it is certainly very active :-) === redx [~aj@69-170-93-192.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] bigfoot1: while you can get the latest version, there are significant advantages to sticking to standard packages [05:10] bigfoot1: I would go with the older version, why do you need the new one? try the older one first. [05:10] i hate to simply throw a question in here, but could someone direct me to a good thread on enablind dual monitor on a radeon series card? [05:11] !nvidia [05:11] it has been said that nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto === SpecialBuddy [~matt@66-227-181-249.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] adwait: I remember in warty ubuntu-desktop depended on totem-gstreamer. looks like they have a proper dummy package now. good. [05:11] dabaR, i'm hoping the newer versions will allow me to check my gmail account. [05:11] x55: try that url [05:11] it saddens me so to see a blank monitor staring at me on my desk [05:11] bigfoot1: the old one does not? [05:11] thank you [05:11] dabaR, well it crashes on me when i set up gmail on it. [05:11] welcome [05:12] nalioth: here's how I ended after apt-get: Fetched 3226kB in 27s (119kB/s)Reading package lists... Done. How do I find this stuff? [05:12] dabaR, are you a gmailer yourself? [05:12] bigfoot1: did you notice how nice gnmail is to tell you in the tab, and title bar if new messages are there? [05:12] mephisto6: use synaptic [05:12] mephisto6: what did you install? [05:12] dabaR, yes, but i want an audible thing, if possible, or something that will pop up [05:12] regeya: so any luck with rhythmbox? [05:13] not really, no. :-} [05:13] so how long has the ubuntu project been running now? [05:13] bigfoot1: ya, I know what you mean, dunno, sorry. [05:13] dabaR: have you seen your PM(s)? [05:13] since 4/10, I mean, that was the first releast. [05:13] dabaR, are you a gmail user? === IceDC571_ [~IceDC571@c-67-160-241-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] nalioth, are you a gmail user? === jbpeele [~jbpeele@cpe-065-188-026-079.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] please speak with me in the channel [05:13] hey IceDC571 [05:13] I wonder if rhythmbox is barfing on a bad id3 tag or something [05:13] yes, I am. [05:13] Holy crap, it's 11:15pm already.. :-( [05:13] adwait: hey [05:13] to you. [05:13] wiat a minute [05:13] x55: there is lots of info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com === overture [overture@c-67-162-35-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] so there i am [05:14] i found the window :) [05:14] lol [05:14] lol [05:14] can anyone help me setup an rsync server? [05:14] what is it nalioth, there is really a helper community? === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] Seth_K, i'm still getting there is no codec installed to handle a mp3 file [05:14] has anyone else had problems getting the password function in /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:14] Aerebus: one more time. [05:14] dabaR: visit the page, please [05:15] so i'm fresh out of windows, still wiping off the linux amniotic fluid, hehehe [05:15] to work? [05:15] nalioth: dabaR: hold on, just found synaptic and am reloading...... [05:15] Aerebus: enable universe. [05:15] !repositories [05:15] repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [05:15] x55 me too [05:15] x55 welcome to freedom [05:15] that url will etll you. === adwait 's gonna go........bbl [05:15] cya ppl === liquidboy [~Miranda@210.54.64.12] has left #ubuntu [] [05:15] dabar, i'm sorry i dont know what you mean [05:15] Later adwait [05:15] i must say, i'm very impressed with the ubuntu community [05:15] Lord: you have escaped to freedom, also === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] very exoteric [05:15] x55: Nice of you to say [05:15] then, after that, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* [05:16] Aerebus: follow the instructions. [05:16] x55: not to mention attractive :D [05:16] yes....less crashing about...:-) [05:16] hehehe, agreed [05:16] enable universe using the URL ubotu gave you, then use that apt-get command to install codecs [05:16] does galeon do mouse gestures? [05:16] Aerebus: as well. [05:16] !restrictedformats [05:16] it has been said that restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs [05:16] has anyone gotten the password function to work in /boot/grub/menu.lst? [05:16] read that page. [05:16] think it would be beneficial to pick up a Linux for Dummies book? [05:17] x55, any linux book [05:17] tldp.org too [05:17] anyone here use erc? [05:17] wheeeeee [05:17] hmm... you should read about linux online [05:17] Razor-X: Not if we can help it :-) [05:17] does anyone in here use IRC? hehe [05:17] x55: you can start with www.tldp.org as dabaR mentioned [05:17] haha windows for dummies [05:18] bddebian: fine, stupid vi man ;) [05:18] heh [05:18] can i have galeon remember the usernames and passwords i enter in websites? [05:18] x55: I got Linux 8in1 desk reference For Dummies... [05:18] bigfoot1: you use galeon? how do you like it? [05:18] *sigh* quitting windows AND smoking in the same week, what a trip, hahaha [05:18] IceDC571, i'm on my first hour. [05:18] ok, nalioth, top secret, making me /part again... === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:18] x55: if there are magazines in your area, they can be informative and entertaining [05:18] x55: the latter should be harder than the former [05:18] bigfoot1: can it play embedded media in webpages? === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-158-162.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] how do i get my sound to work !?! [05:19] x55: You are a bigger person than I.. :-) [05:19] sunrex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [05:19] Hello, My sound card seems be driven successfully because teamspeak showes it is ok, but i can not hear any sound!! [05:19] Darn you.. [05:19] IceDC571, give me an example webpage that hase embedded media so that i could find out, please. [05:19] i am sure it is not muted. [05:19] I've tried just "Password something" at the start of /boot/grub/menu.lst which is what the websites all told me to do, as well as the examples actually in it... what am I doing wrong? [05:19] IceDC571, what browser do you use? [05:19] how can i check it? [05:19] hehehe, well, i haven't entirely quit the smoking, i'm weening myself off [05:19] sure, Ill join that. [05:20] down to one a day, two evil addictions [05:20] how can i have galeon block ads? [05:20] haha [05:20] dabar, can you plz join #flood? [05:20] x55: might i ask why you're impressed? anything in particular? [05:20] gah [05:20] yes [05:20] bigfoot1: google "adblock hosts" === Lord [~ki7yy@65.126.47.32] has left #ubuntu [] [05:20] with the community? [05:20] bigfoot1: firefox.. i dont have an example to remember, hmm.. [05:20] or, can anybody tell me how to check whether sound card work well? === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-109.d-ip.magma.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] anybody here use "mail-notification" [05:20] ? [05:20] it's an applet. [05:21] hmmm [05:21] no, not yet -_- [05:21] i've been surfing the forums for the past 4 days, its almost got me to where i was on windows, thats why i am impressed, very informative you all are [05:21] x55, thank you. [05:21] x55, please stop flattering me 8-) === uc50ic4more [~robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] hehe [05:22] x55: any weak points? === rob^ shakes his fist at lufs [05:22] I've tried to add a password to grub, but it just skips it at start up... does anyone know why it does that? [05:22] im tempted to install kde, someone help me [05:22] hahaha, i'll stop, after all, i still gotta get some 3d support and dual monitor going, we shall see [05:22] i'm too bored with gnome and xfce [05:22] nope...no sound.....i think its my sound card...Sound Blaster LIVE! 24bit [05:22] IceDC571: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" :-) [05:22] IceDC571: easy, install "kubuntu-desktop" [05:22] IceDC571: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:22] sunrex: yep, you have to install the LATEST alsa drivers === omaru [~omaru@200.79.194.129.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] no i mean help me get away from thinking of installing kde [05:23] the ati driver howto's look a bit intimidating, i should dig into them when i'm a little more alert [05:23] IceDC571: really were? [05:23] why the stupid time obligation, though, nalioth ? === punkrockguy318 [~lukas@pcp02403054pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] I dont like obligations. === bbailey [~bbailey@adsl-149-127-185.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] why is it not like, just whatever you can do... [05:23] dabaR: i didnt set that, and it is a suggestion [05:23] aha [05:23] IceDC571: don't do that. nothing works right in KDE. And you can never find the damn options to fix it so that it does work right. [05:23] What backup programs does ubuntu have available? Or what scripts can I use to backup my system to a disk? [05:23] I am having a problem installing python apps from source (python setup.py install) [05:23] dabaR: yes, just what you can do, in irc, the wiki, forums, etc [05:24] It says I am missing config/Makefile [05:24] In the redhat world [05:24] dabaR: If you aren't interested, you aren't interested. You don't HAVE to :-) [05:24] that would mean I am missing python-dev === turkey [~turkey@pcp08778566pcs.mtlrel01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] What does it mean with Ubuntu [05:24] were do i get the drivers [05:24] linuxpoet: So install python-dev [05:24] ok i'm having a problem connecting to the internet with ubuntu [05:24] dabar, should i follow the part about 'Adding outside repositories'? [05:24] no, thats fine, you aer good now. [05:25] Danar: i haven't found anything worth complaining about [05:25] can someone PLEASE help me [05:25] turkey: What is the problem? [05:25] go into a terminal, and type in sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* [05:25] thanks for the obvious ;) that worked [05:25] turkey: tell more about the devices, and ISP. [05:25] linuxpoet: NP :-) [05:25] can anyone tell me how to get root in gnome? [05:25] gnome-terminal [05:25] then sudo [05:25] sunrex: did you say which drivers? [05:25] !root [05:25] I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:26] i want to get root in the graphical interface [05:26] not in the terminal [05:26] i've been poking around in beep media player, and i don't see any advantages over xmms. i prefer xmms, and i see no reason to switch... [05:26] golgor, I think still the site tells you. [05:26] yea Sound Blaster LIBR! 24 bit..do i go to the website...or do i need special drivers from ubuntu? [05:26] golgor: I don't think gnome supports that [05:26] it does. [05:26] yet apparently it's better somehow? === frequency [~frequency@cpe-24-28-173-234.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] I know exactly where in fact. === fran [~fran@c-24-19-207-151.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] golgor: why be root? [05:27] in gui? [05:27] golgor: no you don't [05:27] you know i hated winamp 3 on windows, and it seems thats the only release for linux, does anyone use winamp over xmms? honestly, i just miss my shoutcast TV [05:27] dabaR, have to move some files and im to lazy to use the terminal [05:27] ok, well disable it after, tho. [05:27] dabar, i redid apt-get install and there are three linesyou might want to see, notice or msg them to you? [05:27] golgor: never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo in the terminal [05:28] ..were do i get the drivers...... [05:28] golgor: System>Admin>Login screen setup. [05:28] golgor: it's not a good idea to run gui apps as root [05:28] Danar, i have to move 2 files [05:28] just disable after, tho, promise./ [05:28] golgor: so 'mv source destination' [05:28] golgor: using gui apps as root is bad, cuz some gui apps will ravage your system [05:28] :( [05:28] Aerebus: did it install? [05:28] golgor: er, 'sudo mv source dest' [05:28] golgor: you realise you've spent longer in here talking about those two files than you would have moving them? [05:28] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [05:28] Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. [05:28] djm62: hah! :D [05:29] djm62, no i haven't, because i dont even know the command to move :P [05:29] oops [05:29] for sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*? [05:29] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [05:29] Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. [05:29] how do i get back the trash can...deleted it from the desktop... [05:29] balh [05:29] golgor: well, it's "mv" [05:29] Danar, thanks :P [05:29] right click on a panel, add to panel, trash. === flak-9 [~flak--9@pcp02488420pcs.spedwy01.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] golgor: the command is mv. used "mv start destination" === kane_ [~kane@85.137.128.112] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] but were do i get trash at... [05:30] golgor: you should look up a list of basic commands. you should at least know ls, mv, rm, mkdir, rmdir, sudo, man, grep, and so on [05:30] oh from desktop? [05:30] or from panel? [05:30] at least grep, hey? [05:30] i deleted it from desktop [05:30] so were do i find it [05:30] Danar, haven't found any list of basic commands, haven't searched either [05:30] ok, well, that is a little different. [05:30] just a sec [05:31] dabaR: of course. it's very useful [05:31] golgor: well how do you expect to find one without looking? [05:31] go apps>System tools>configuration editor, sunrex [05:31] razor-x, please try mail-notification. I am able to get the applet to check my non-Gmail account, but it can't check my gmail account. [05:31] hello, when i used alsamixer, master and pcm is always 0, i can't up it, can anybody help me? [05:31] thks [05:31] golgor: google.com/linux?q=~guide === gm78 [~gm78@S01060004e28f5eac.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] Hey all [05:32] Hello gm78 [05:32] golgor: it's a linux thing...knowing the underlying base is occasionally useful. if you're in the UK I can stick a reference card in an envelope [05:32] so no one knows any advantages of beep over xmms? [05:32] Danar: gtk versions are different, I think [05:32] sunrex: then, go Apps>nautilus>desktop, its there. [05:32] Danar: beep is gtk2 [05:32] Danar: gtk2 over gtk1 (and some minor fixes) [05:32] Danar: and xmms is less maintained [05:33] djm62: does xmms _need_ to be maintained more? it plays all the audio i've put into it [05:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228724&postcount=3 talks about a gDesklets gmail checker. WHere can i get this gDesklet? [05:33] ya, I like xmms better, dunno, just more reliable. === uc50ic4more [~robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:33] xmms looks like 1991 [05:33] Danar: they're working on xmms2 which is based on gtk2 [05:33] who is sending me messages all the time? [05:33] i like the look of xmms better. yes i got some skins for beep, but none quite like what i want === dashx [~sentri@CPE00080dfcec50-CM014490105324.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] ccc: true:) === quidam [~quidam@200.90.78.103] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] IceDC571: sounds good :) [05:33] Hi guys, I have a question. [05:33] thanks i got it now [05:34] Does anyone know if there is an ape and flac plugin for beep? [05:34] welcome [05:34] Danar: if it gets bit-rot, it won't be cleaned...it's likely to get worse, even if it's ok now === mark_ [~mark@adsl-69-231-196-126.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] pink-noob: synaptic might know that. [05:34] so i realize it would be worthwhile and educational to establish an ftp server through the terminal, but is there a good gui ftp program one could use to establish an ftp server? [05:34] pink-noob: i've found that the only flac plugin working is the one for xmms1 [05:34] djm62: sorry? [05:34] I recently decided to use Ubuntu for a server box. I installed Ubuntu using "server" instead of regular install. How come it never asks me to assign a root password? [05:34] establishing an ftp server is as easy as installing it [05:34] dashx: Fire away, we'll answer if we can [05:34] Thanks, IceDC571. [05:34] dashx: Ubuntu doesn't have root [05:34] !root [05:34] it has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:35] dashx that url will tell you . [05:35] Danar: for instance, if it stops playing nicely with a gcc update [05:35] also the insatll told you. [05:35] really? [05:35] the install never told me. [05:35] x55: check out vsftpd & pureftpd === youth [~youth@cpe-24-209-241-103.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] x55: yes, then, after that, you can connect to it using a GUI client, such as gftp [05:35] i have them both, but the prompt still frightens my gui-lovin-ass [05:35] Thanks for the help guys. [05:35] djm62: that would only affect it if you recompiled it [05:35] you can not have two ft servers installed, so you dont. [05:35] dabar, ok i reran apt-get install and i see what it put out and there are 3 lines that might mean soemthing i dont know personally but here they are: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. ... what do i do now? [05:35] hehehe, pardon the language [05:36] Danar: if it works, great...you are free to use whatever you like. but there are reasons not to [05:36] x55 the prompt is your friend, it'll be with you after your gui says goodbye === jasmuz [~jasmuz@14sdl30m44.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] what was the apt-get install command Aerebus ? [05:36] ok...now were do i get a driver update for Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit [05:36] Danar: binary incompatibility happens too, if you give it long enough [05:36] i need to update it [05:36] exadctly as you wrote it. === hondje_ [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] i know, but as i said, i'm an addict to the intuitive little boxes [05:36] couse it has NO sound [05:36] sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-* [05:36] sudo apt-get install that [05:36] huh? [05:36] djm62: well if xmms2 is in the works i shouldn't have to worry [05:36] aptitude is stupid like that(I dont know how to use it, anyhow) === nickrud [~nickrud@ppp-66-140-227-111.dialup.snantx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:37] microsoft deeply implanted its vile seed within me, hahaha [05:37] sorry i said apt-get didnt i? lol well i'm new to all of this hehe [05:37] someone said to me before that it is possible to get Photoshop 7.0 on here, but I need ..WINE, is this right? [05:37] Aerebus: that's slight overkill, don't you think? [05:37] sunrex: it is not the driver, some other things are worng with it. === newbie [~newbie@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] all i want to know is HOW TO GET MY SOUND TO WORK lol === hondje_ is now known as hondje [05:37] Any predictions on how ubuntu would work on an "antique" toshiba laptop? 810 MB HD, PII Processor 16 MB RAM, bum CD ROM === hou5ton [~hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] Danar: nobody told you to worry: you did ask what was wrong with just using xmms. there's a lot right with it, but you didn't ask that ;) [05:37] mephisto6: slowly and with a lightweight or no gui [05:37] dabaR: well what can i do to fix it? [05:38] mephisto6: you would need to strip it down quite a lot [05:38] you wrote the command different, so, did you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*, or aptitude? [05:38] youth: probably. wine is used to run windows apps on linux. there's also cedega which is oriented towards games. it's free if you compile it yourself. search cvscedega. wine should be in the repository [05:38] mephisto6 try damn small linux better [05:38] sunrex: you can ask crimsun for help when he is here. [05:38] sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-* [05:38] has anyone got Ventrilo to output on Linux? [05:38] thats what i used [05:38] Ooh. I already started wine lol [05:38] djm62: i know. ;) [05:38] ok, please do the apt-get instead, that will work. [05:38] mephisto6: it would take some skill to get ubuntu to be nice on that hardware [05:38] mephisto6: i recommend the server install of ubuntu on the lappy [05:38] I just wanted to know if that would help me [05:38] well i got vidio to run...so at least i know that works =/ [05:38] sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* ? [05:38] mephisto6: at that poing you can learn what kind of gui to put on it [05:39] nalioth: djm62: newbie: I was thinkin' dmsl. Will probably fix the cdrom to make it somewhat easier... [05:39] yes, Aerebus , [05:39] youth: no reason not to have both. sometimes one will run something the other doesn't [05:39] brb all [05:39] ok its doing its thing [05:39] Danar; OKay. Thank you :D [05:39] aptitude does not work with the asterisks that way, I did not read the manual to learn how to do that. [05:39] mephisto6: dsl is very screwed, as far as upgradeablity goes === misfit_toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] youth: wine is more for general apps, cedega for games [05:39] nalioth: *laughs* server. maybe wifi backpack to go with? [05:39] mephisto6: dsl is put together for compact size, not user upgradeability [05:39] nalioth: knoppix to test the waters, perhaps? [05:40] Danar; Oooh. I don't play games so I won't worry about cedega. === xsdg [xsdg@xsdg.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] mephisto6: liveCDs like memory [05:40] mephisto6: how bout ubuntu live cd? [05:40] nalioth, I agree, DSL HDD is a pain to upgrade [05:40] x55: really, I am telling you, for an ftp server, just run sudo aptitude install proftpd(or whatever else you want [05:40] ) [05:40] Danar; but my mom does get on here to play games on line.. games.com or whatever, and they won't play, do you know what I need to do to get them to? [05:40] nalioth: 810 mb hd sounds compact. think? [05:40] youth: nonetheless, some general windows apps are more graphical, and will only work in cedega [05:40] and then after that, dont touch the server, just sonnect to it using gui clients. [05:40] youth: the ones that play in the browser? [05:40] Ventrilo.... any able to make it output or do i need to install anything ? [05:40] danar; yes [05:40] mephisto6: there are floppy distros (even with graphics) [05:40] youth: get the flash & java plugins [05:40] youth: java likely. [05:40] nalioth: djm62: will have to replace internal cdrom first [05:40] youth: you use firefox right? [05:40] dabar, it says E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [05:41] dabaR: both, likely [05:41] danar; yeah. [05:41] mephisto6: here you go: www.linuxfromscratch.org [05:41] youth: yeh, there's a plugins faq on mozdev.org [05:41] mephisto6: the last time I saw a laptop that light running linux it was being used as a graphic equaliser with blackbox at a gig === qt2 [~qt2@pool-64-222-227-195.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] danar; thank you! i'll go check that out. and i'll probably be backl ol [05:41] youth: google firefox plugins, and you should find it [05:41] k :D! [05:41] wow, Aerebus do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace everything there with what is here: http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list [05:41] nalioth: I looked at that sight. Will take many moons at my skill level. but worth the experience methinks === qt2 blinks. [05:41] youth: java can be a bit of a pain though, so pay attention :p [05:41] woot \o/ [05:42] Then, sudo aptitude update, and then the apt-get again. === qt2 now tries to figure out how to mount his gentoo partition [05:42] danar; euw :// kkz! [05:42] youth: uh... huh? lol === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] danar; nothing O_o [05:42] heh [05:42] mephisto6: actually, you could get debian, and install blackbox or fluxbox, links, and emacs === freddy [~freddy@200.75.134.106] has joined #ubuntu [05:43] qt2: do mount, find the /dev/hd** of your gentoo partition, then tell me the fs type, and the /dev/hd** [05:43] mount in a terminal and enter. === Imsdle [~fesf@203.184.2.163] has joined #ubuntu [05:43] no [05:43] djm62: take it easy on the noob here. baby steps for me. I'm still in process on fiddling w/ 10 old boxes I scored from work, gratis. Gonna put linux variants on 'em all that still work and see what happens. [05:43] mephisto6: actually it is well written === rincewynd [~rincewynd@CPE-138-130-3-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:43] sudo fdisk -l === newbie [~newbie@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:43] dabar, itsdone [05:43] @#$@##$@ arrrggg damn evolution.. it has crashed and now won't start.. it just trys to open and my hard disk goes bizerk.. any ideas? [05:43] Aerebus: now mp3s have to play. [05:44] arghhh why cant Totem Movie player play mmmoooooviieess?! *cry* [05:44] nalioth: djm62: copying and pasting recommendations as quickly as possible........Many thanks!!!! [05:44] nalioth: would he be as well doing a really basic debian install? [05:44] djm62: on the small laptop? probably [05:44] rincewynd: what does it do, that is needed to know why it does not do what you would like it to, tell us the error message. === carl [~carl@c-67-169-107-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] debian is frugal by default :-/ [05:45] mephisto6: you must be more specific, c/p where to what? [05:45] *taking notes* nalioth: djm62: [05:45] dabar, oh after sudo aptitude update i run sudo apt-get update (again)? [05:45] djm62: he can use a netinst floppy debian and start from there [05:45] sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* [05:45] rincewynd: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins totem-gstreamer [05:45] suggestions given from here to a plain text file to pour over later === MrBiscuit [~chatzilla@1Cust7298.an4.dca16.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] how can I get the differences between two $file commands? [05:45] rincewynd: do that ^ and it will work [05:45] djm62: of course he'd have a system with a kernel and apt-get only, lol === omniscient [~omni@d220-237-235-207.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] nalioth: worked for me, many moons ago, although it looks like he has CD not floppy [05:45] mephisto6: enable logging in your irc client [05:46] nalioth: bustin' my balls for synaptic after your very own suggestion........*laughs* [05:46] djm62: the netinst comes in cd and floppy images [05:46] mephisto6: no big thing, bubba [05:46] nalioth: the equation being 14 windows CDs >> 3 'Potato' floppies [05:46] we are always here [05:46] How do you connect using dialup with the terminal? [05:46] any ideas for evolution crashing [05:46] s/CD/floppie/ [05:46] djm62: or one mini-cd [05:46] Imsdle: switch to thunderbird? :p [05:47] Imsdle: reinstall? [05:47] nalioth: logging, yes. done. damn, this lernin' stuff is fun! [05:47] Imsdle: give the error in an irc chat room? [05:47] i tried to reinstall [05:47] Danar: you should recommend wiping the .evolution dir first (or moving it somehwere other than your homedir, or renaming it) [05:47] nalioth: potato was before I had a CD drive, and that limitation was why I didn't reinstall windows (_from_floppies_) [05:47] what is the prefered program? [05:47] dabar, i ran sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing [05:48] again? [05:48] well wtf, when i try to do the 'su -' command, it asks for the password, i enter the one i gave during install, and it says it failed... [05:48] relog into X? [05:48] nalioth: reinstalling shouldn't affecting anything... should it? [05:48] nalioth: just the binaries and stuff [05:48] qt2: it is disabled. === qt2 blinks [05:48] why? o.O; [05:48] Imsdle: for email? [05:48] Danar: Imsdle try renaming your .evolution folder in your home directory [05:48] qt2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/rootsudo will tell you. [05:48] how do i use the mount command then... :o [05:48] I have a ide/ext2 fs drive in a usb case - I turn it on, and dmesg says: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: [05:49] nalioth: oh, you mean before reinstalling. heh. haven't used evolution in a long time [05:49] sudo fdisk -l please, and tell me what partition is the gentoo one. I mean, what it tells you about it, anyhow... === quantux [~quantux@c-24-10-251-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] I would like to try to fsck it, but I can't figure out what /dev it is... how do I tell? [05:49] Danar: yes, its easier to rename the .evolution, and if that is it, he can start over with a new one === DekaPink [~Hurricane@brndmb02dc1-222-25.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] dabar, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing did the trick thankyou its working now :) [05:49] I'm on Ubuntu... Woohoo. :D === gustavor [~gustavo@200.183.90.113] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] Aerebus: good stuff, glad to hear that. [05:50] nalioth: djm62: got this error during upgrading with synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-2ubuntu3_i386.deb [05:50] MD5Sum mismatch [05:50] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgii/libgii0_0.8.5-2_i386.deb [05:50] MD5Sum mismatch [05:50] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb [05:50] there is no error.. it just sits there with the evolution window not loaded proberly trying to open somehting and my hard disk goes flat out [05:50] MD5Sum mismatch [05:50] what is xwindows in relation to kde and gnome? [05:50] mephisto6: remove the us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file [05:50] eno: it lies underneath both [05:50] right ;) thanks. [05:50] mephisto6: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [05:50] I am a noobie by the way [05:50] mephisto6: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [05:50] eno: it is the blackboard, they are the diagrams [05:51] dabaR: thanks. am trying.............. [05:51] mephisto6: follow the dogs leads [05:51] eno: xwindows provides graphical type stuff. kde & gnome do window management [05:51] whats with the dog, nalioth?:) [05:51] eno: that's why they're called window managers :p [05:51] i'm downloading a deb file. how do i install it? === Phreakazoid [~david@c211-30-14-32.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] dabaR: i'm tired of explaining the wonky repos [05:51] bigfoot1: dpkg -i [05:51] eno: eventually you will understand why it's called a "server"...then your soul will be lost ;) [05:51] Danar: oh thanks :P [05:51] run the exe file? [05:51] bigfoot1: dpkg -i package.deb, but, it may not work. === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.2.128] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] dabaR, why not? === bigredjoe1310 [~root@cpe-66-25-53-41.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] cause its not a ubuntu package. === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] eno: if in doubt, check the man pages (aka, RTFM) [05:52] dmj62: you're scaring me [05:52] so I can't ask conceptual type questions on this channel? [05:52] eno: it's an old, old system with some odd nooks about it, but it has lasted well [05:52] i remember the first time i used mandrake.. my mouse cursor was an X the whole time, they didnt want to change it [05:52] eno: ask away [05:52] eno: ask anything, maybe you wont get an answer, tho. [05:52] and search the package for viruses [05:52] i can't change my screen resolution thru the regular means, is there any way to do it in terminal [05:52] so not all deb stuff work in ubuntu? i thought they were related? === JayParadise [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] I thought so. I have found this to be the friendliest linux channel on irc === DekaPink pets Ubuntu for being so pretty. [05:52] GREAT i dont got sound...OK I CAN LIVE WITH THAT FOR AWHILE...i put in a dvd...nothing runs accept Xine.....then when it does run it has all these weird colors....its like a fuzzy TV accept with gaps showing some of the picture.. [05:52] X draws the windows, kde and gnome decorate and manage them [05:53] !resolution [05:53] from memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [05:53] quantux: wonderful description [05:53] *slaps head* [05:53] eno: the X server is the only application which touches the screen. All other programs tell X what to draw [05:53] so could I save memory if I didn't run gnome, or do I need it? [05:53] to tell you the truth.. X does nothing.. it just crashes gnome for fun [05:53] big, you can chance resolution via regedit [05:53] Owl^: viruses? heh [05:53] eno: a definite savings of memory [05:53] Ummm im having trouble connecting via dialup. It just sits at the logging onto network window and won't do anything else [05:53] haha [05:53] Owl^: regedit? [05:54] Owl^: what are you speaking of? === redir [~reed@216-15-53-11.c3-0.grg-ubr2.lnh-grg.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] so how can I change my window manager? [05:54] eno: if you /just/ ran X. (and you can do this) you'd get a mouse pointer and a blank screen with grey hatching [05:54] personaly....im just wondering if this Lunix is worth it or if i sould just go and buy one...would it be A.better for awhile or B.better in the long run.. [05:54] sunrex: might need libdvdcss2 [05:54] fir run the exe, then viruses, now regedit... === stanford [~stanford@ip68-14-106-246.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] I have seen that before, it is infiuriating [05:54] eno: i think its a little too early for that.. whatever you do, dont change it to kde [05:54] Danar: libdvdcss2? [05:54] How do I install a downloaded theme? [05:54] eno: edit your .xinitrc file [05:55] !info libdvdcss2 [05:55] eno: otherwise, when you login you can change the "session" before you put in your name and password [05:55] why can't I change to kde? [05:55] stanford: go to the themes dialog and just drag the package into the window [05:55] sunrex: it may be because the dvd is encrypted... [05:55] eno: and you can change to anything you like [05:55] Danar oohh LOL [05:55] idedc571 ok thanks [05:55] icedc571* [05:55] well...we were speaking of the screen resolution...you can change it easili vie regedit...(just run search for screen resolution) [05:55] stanford: for gnome? go check out the faqs at art.gnome.org === johntramp [~john@222-153-249-149.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] KDE is pretty :-D [05:55] heh [05:55] eno: I have a soft spot for blackbox and fluxbox as window managers [05:55] Danar: so were i get that [05:55] *easily [05:55] so if I go into re-whatever mode from grub, could I intialize an X server from the root prompt? [05:55] dabaR, /deb/hda3 /mnt/gentoo reiserfs noatime 0 1 [05:55] ;) [05:56] MrBiscuit: KDE is pretty resource hungry === JayParadise [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === bigredjoe1310 [~root@cpe-66-25-53-41.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:56] qt2: :) [05:56] sunrex: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 [05:56] It's not that bad [05:56] kde is like an ugly Qt gone for a face lift and a lot of surgery [05:56] MrBiscuit: not on a modern system [05:56] Danar: thanks, ill tell you if it works or not [05:56] my system is far from modern [05:56] eno: just log out of gnome without shutting down, but make sure you have installed some of the other window managers [05:56] sunrex: he already knows it works:) [05:56] sunrex: if not, try the codecs [05:56] I bought my system... 6 months ago.. maybe thats why [05:57] heh [05:57] hey I installed ubuntu on a pc with a 21" monitor and it set the resolution to something like 1280x1024 and now I have it running on a smaller monitor which cant handle that resolution. Is there a way to have ubuntu reconfigure itself for this new monitor or do I have to edit config files by hand? [05:57] then you can log back in with other ones, and decide what you like about them [05:57] then what do I do? [05:57] Danar: root@Darkworks:/home/tyler # sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 [05:57] Reading package lists... Done [05:57] Building dependency tree... Done [05:57] libdvdcss2 is already the newest version. [05:57] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [05:57] .. [05:57] Danar: oh, that wont work without backports. [05:57] ? [05:57] johntramp: yes, hoary? [05:57] just use windows and be happy...(and curse all the errors) [05:57] dabaR: yes [05:57] nalioth? Do you know anything about PPP connections [05:57] johntramp: you'll have to edit xorg.conf and type in your LCD frequencies [05:57] IceDC571: its not lcd [05:57] MrBiscuit: sorry, i use broadband, and havent used a modem in years [05:58] oh.. i mean monitor [05:58] Oh ok === WhiteRabbit [~3am@whiterabbit.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] johntramp: well, I used this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is a little funny, cause it asks you all these things, but I enter through it except for the resolution part, youll see. [05:58] heh, modem...what's that? [05:58] Lives 1800 feet from DSL *curses phone company! [05:58] Owl^: no thanks, it cost me almost 200$ on just things to fix viriuses spyware and firewall [05:58] johntramp: if taht doesnt work, come back and talk to me [05:58] eno: and try to get a shot of ssh X-forwarding... [05:58] MrBiscuit: get a cable modem [05:58] :) [05:58] ok thanks dabaR [05:58] eno: you might not need it, but it surely is cool [05:58] MrBiscuit: I know it stands for point to point protocol [05:58] welcome [05:59] Lives 30.2 miles from nearest cable line === trung [~trung@203.113.161.83] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] Danar: no it didint work [05:59] sunrex: go read the following page. [05:59] so if I have ssh can I log into my linux box at home from my crippled windows terminal pizza box at work? [05:59] !restrictedformats [05:59] MrBiscuit: lol, where the hell do you live? [05:59] sunrex, there are plenty of free @virus softwares, (too bad they are almost useless) [05:59] I guess restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs [05:59] sunrex: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2 [05:59] eno: yes [05:59] eno: Yes, use Putty [05:59] awesome (H) [05:59] Sticks! [05:59] thks.. [05:59] eno: yeah, but windows doesn't run X-window-system [05:59] ok, next "technical" question. best way to get my ubuntu box recognized by my two Win xp boxen? [06:00] djm62: Well it "can" [06:00] I could get to a command prompt though? [06:00] Does anyone here remember what "Dialup" means? [06:00] sunrex: download that, extract it to /usr/local/lib/codecs/ [06:00] bddebian: yeah, his work one definitely doesn't though [06:00] Or still uses it [06:00] eno: yep [06:00] eno: Yes [06:00] djm62: Good point :-) [06:00] sunrex: there's a readme file in there too though [06:00] Windows sucks...im going to do this...wait till longhorn comes out...or just buy one of the best lunix system [06:00] Longhorn... heh [06:00] dialup...was it something from the 80s? [06:01] Just another resource hog [06:01] sunrex: longhorn will just be even more evil :p [06:01] heh [06:01] eno: yes ssh is kewl [06:01] sunrex: this is a good enough one, you just want to be spoon fed. [06:01] MrBiscuit: i think dialup is when your hardware screams orgasms thru the phone line to connect to the internet [06:01] eno: you can have good fun getting it to talk to your SO if he/she's at home [06:01] Danar: i know....but im sick of having to code lunix to =/ [06:01] sunrex: IMO, ubuntu is "one of the best" linux distros [06:01] Hmmm [06:01] i know i want to be spoon fed =) [06:01] I could use dialup fine without KDE [06:01] But when i got it im not sure where to go [06:01] sunrex: have you heard of ansi? cross-platform code [06:01] who had a question above, I was gonna answer it [06:01] djm62: yeah I could install one of those talker programs and make it say things :P [06:02] Danar: um...no [06:02] html is cross platform [06:02] what if it wasnt :) [06:02] eno: I went with "why won't you stop playing solitaire?" ;) [06:02] sunrex: uh, by 'code' you mean, programming, no? [06:02] there would be a fhml [06:02] hahaha [06:02] and I guessed right [06:02] that is funny [06:02] omg i curse all the people who use ASP [06:02] Danar: um...yea....lol i dont mind programing some things...but not the entire system =/ [06:02] they have to maintain their site like every 1 hour [06:02] PHP RULZ! [06:02] Danar, hi [06:03] sunrex: what are you talking about? [06:03] Danar, faster now [06:03] retards use m$ [06:03] <|QuaD-> when i apt-get update; apt-get upgrade for breezy, how come a bunch of programs aren't upgrading [06:03] hehe, I am so not pc. [06:03] <|QuaD-> they are instead "held back" [06:03] seriously look at anyone running ASP, their websites need maintaining all the time [06:03] Danar: ok ok fine...im going to have to code all my games to lol [06:03] trung: ...? [06:03] dabaR: ok, so I'm a retard in transition... [06:03] Forced to be on MS until can figure out why dialup on linux won't work... [06:03] sunrex: ok, either i'm misunderstanding you, or you have misunderstood something else... [06:03] Danar, gparted you told with me [06:04] |QuaD-: you forgot to rename some of your sources, maybe, or the programs have not been upgradfed in breezy, or something else. [06:04] lol.. MrBiscuit use kde for cygwin while you're at it ;) [06:04] Danar: no nothing like that...i just got about 50 games that dont support Lunix =/ [06:04] MrBiscuit: how powerful a system do you have? [06:04] trung: ah. that work out? [06:04] That was a stupid sentence - mine above about m$ [06:04] sunrex: that's what cedega is for [06:04] alrighty gonna give ubuntu a shot, wish me luck [06:04] sunrex: google cvscedega [06:04] <|QuaD-> dabaR: they have though [06:04] nalioth: P4 @ 3.00 ghz w/ ht 512 DDR ram 200 GB HD [06:04] Danar: i dont got a credit card thou. [06:04] sunrex: don't need one. google cvscedega [06:05] |QuaD-: checked the sources.list to see if you changed the names right? [06:05] I found the solution to my rhythmbox problem. it was stupid. in the toplevel dir of my music dir, there was a file named .directory. deleting that fixed everything. no kidding. [06:05] i think ive seen ColonelKernel before, think he was a fedora user [06:05] I mean, /topic === regeya grumbles and mutters === bigfoot1 [~hideseek@FLH1Abb048.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been using this since before the transition [06:05] |QuaD-: you are about to break your system you know this, right? [06:05] dmj62: do I use an output redirector to use festival, or how do I do that? [06:05] oh god, is someone upgrading to breezy again? [06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why? [06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452 [06:06] MrBiscuit: you can use qemu [06:06] does galeon work with Mozilla Extensions? [06:06] |QuaD-: its not released... [06:06] eno: I can't remember the exact incantation, I think /usr/share/doc/festival/ has a quick-start guide inside it [06:06] qemu? What for? [06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been fine, it is fine [06:06] ack.. dont use qemu on a low end system [06:06] <|QuaD-> just can't figure out this [06:06] *Wonders if he could emulate a broadband connection... [06:06] i had to learn the hard way [06:06] thank you again [06:06] eno: in general, there are some goodies to be found in /usr/share/doc/ [06:06] ok, good then, what is your question then? [06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why are soo many packages held back [06:06] MrBiscuit: tried Netzero 3G? lol [06:06] MrBiscuit: run winduhs and linux simultaneously [06:06] <|QuaD-> that shouldn't be happeneing [06:06] Danar: there is no folder called Codecs on lib [06:07] so. you have breezy already? [06:07] <|QuaD-> dabaR: yeah [06:07] Lol, Netzero 3G... That's like a really stupid piece of crap [06:07] does ubuntu use gdm? [06:07] thanks I didn't know about that [06:07] sunrex: then make it: mkdir === vampire123 [~a@219.95.14.142] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] Danar, yes swap's size causes problem [06:07] qt2: yes [06:07] eno: for X stuff, you're best to learn by playing...I'm off to bed now, have fun [06:07] So is AOL, MSN(gofigure) and all that other junk === killapop [~allan@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu === djm62 [~djm62@82-40-60-28.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [06:07] MrBiscuit: really? you might be fooled into thinking... its broadband... la la la [06:07] danar: you mean make a folder called mkdir in lib? [06:07] Ha [06:07] Its just another image compresser that looks pretty [06:07] sunrex: no, i mean use mkdir to make a folder called codecs [06:07] ubuntu.pastebin.nl? [06:08] Kamping_Kaiser, so i can get kde from synaptic, and select it for use in gdm? === jasmuz [~jasmuz@14sdl30m44.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] Kamping_Kaiser, or xfce? [06:08] qt2: yes === flask- [~brian@131-244.69-92-cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] qt2 yes, click on sesions [06:08] DanaR: lol...what is mkdir...im in the lib folder now [06:08] MrBiscuit: try netzero for 30 days and receive free AOL trial for 5000 hours, plus a bonus enter to win fantastic 4 sweepstakes [06:08] |QuaD-: was it ubuntu.pastebin.nl? [06:08] Lol, i have Juno thank you very much.. [06:09] sunrex: that much should be obvious after my last comment. mkdir is the command to make a dir(ectory) :p [06:09] hey I'm getting a bunch of md5 checksum errors while using apt on ubuntu... there's a couple threads about it on the forums but it seems like a lot of them are going reported and unfixed for days... anyone else running into these? [06:09] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452 [06:09] heh, except that there's no xfce in the default ubuntu repositories... [06:09] flask-: the repos are wonky atm [06:09] Plus AOL is a resource hog, and Netzero partnered with Juno and stole all of their technologies [06:09] sunrex: in lib, run mkdir codecs [06:09] flask-: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 === ep [~ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] nalioth: that's a shame... what's the sitch? [06:09] DanaR: *slaps head* been away from ubuntu for awhile lol [06:09] flask-: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent [06:09] Juno was like the first 1 gig of mail space, first dialup accelerator... etc etc === ep [~ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:09] www.os-works.com has the latest xfce packages [06:09] flask: follow the dog...... [06:10] |QuaD-: dist-upgrade. [06:10] but, I hope your system survives it:) === ```bulldogg [~agoofyguy@ip68-13-59-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] <|QuaD-> dabaR: dist-upgrade removes too much [06:10] MrBiscuit: i havent heard of juno for years [06:10] <```bulldogg> hello [06:10] hi [06:10] DanaR: ok one how do i run MKdir 2.i tried to do it manualy....it wont let me === ruben [~ruben@164.77.133.29] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] sunrex: here's a tip: use tab completion, both in irc and in the terminal === NoHope [~silas@201-13-45-189.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] hi all. [06:10] MrBiscuit: where do you live? [06:10] sunrex: i didn't say MKdir. i said mkdir [06:10] |QuaD-: well, then, man apt-get or something, I reallydont know, maybe there is a way to force everything, [06:10] Mountainous area of Virginia [06:10] sunrex: linux is case sensitive [06:10] mephisto6: and then just an apt-get update ? [06:10] Hey, what is the ubuntu initialization script? === ealden [~ealden@219.90.92.167] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] NoHope: hi, i'm hi, i'm hi.. i'm hi.. i'm hi.. hi.. [06:11] Danar: but how do i make it lol === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] <```bulldogg> I would like to install this distro.... however it does not like my sata drive and I don't have the ability to disable the SATA on my Dell Dimension 4700 can anyone help? [06:11] yes or can use synaptic; also recommended by nalioth to me [06:11] sunrex: you are in lib, right? [06:11] sunrex: run this: sudo mkdir codecs [06:11] Do you know what is the ubuntu initialization script? [06:11] Danar: im new to lunix..so im not sure...yes im in it [06:11] excuse me but why is hurricane daniels the main operator in this channel? [06:11] bulldogg: i have a dell 4700 at work, to get it to work under Gentoo I had to set the SATA controller to some kind of legacy mode in the BIOS [06:12] IceDC571: what? [06:12] Danar: wait u mean from terminal? [06:12] ```bulldogg: Why doesn't it like the SATA drive? [06:12] sunrex: yes [06:12] sunrex: yes... lol [06:12] Gesundheit! [06:12] <```bulldogg> I don't have that option in my bios..... [06:12] bulldogg: it's in there, you just gotta look for it [06:12] <```bulldogg> it says it can't find a partitional media [06:12] sunrex: how else are you gonna run commands? :p [06:12] open terminal, type in cd /usr/lib was it? [06:12] partitional media? lol [06:12] hello!!! [06:12] /usr/local/lib [06:12] freddy: welcome back [06:12] freddy: i want your cat [06:12] <```bulldogg> I have auto or disable and disable says it won't see the drive [06:12] ```bulldogg: is your drive mounted right now? [06:12] what is up man? [06:12] not much [06:12] freddy: hi/ [06:13] DOES ANYONE IN HERE USE DIALUP!?! [06:13] IceDC571, my cat? lol wtf? [06:13] we have new newbs [06:13] sunrex: so, 'cd /usr/local/lib' then 'sudo mkdir codecs' [06:13] Danar: *SIGH* great...how do i open it up to that now =/ i mean what do i type to get there.. [06:13] What is the graphical boot up project for gentoo called? [06:13] sunrex: you don't know how to get to a terminal? [06:13] Danar: no i know lol [06:13] Xyc0: /join #gentoo [06:13] Danar: u just anserd my question [06:13] sunrex: what do you propose to type to get to a terminal, which is where you type commands in the first place? :p should be right on the menu [06:14] lol.. for all your gentoo needs, ask us [06:14] heh [06:14] ebuild-myass === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] IceDC571, what cat man? lol [06:14] dabaR: Its an ubuntu project too [06:14] he is high, he said. [06:14] *Here kitty kitty kitty.... [06:14] ohhh [06:14] Xyc0: dunno. === streetbmx [~Brandon@adsl-149-47-121.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] Xyc0: you mean splashy? [06:14] Danar: we are all newbs at some point ok :P === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] i couldnt get splashy werking :( [06:14] ok [06:15] Danar: ok so now just copy and paist the folder right [06:15] sunrex: yeh. i've said that before. :) [06:15] freddy: open a terminal and see a man about a cat [06:15] sunrex: er, no. [06:15] MrBiscuit: My guess would be the answer is no, unfortunately === streetbmx [~Brandon@adsl-149-47-121.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:15] Danar: .. [06:15] .... [06:15] sunrex: you shouldn't have permissions to the folder. still got that terminal window? [06:15] FBSplash, thanks IceDC571 === IceDC571 eats MrBiscuit [06:15] nalioth, IceDC571 said "i want your cat" [06:15] Danar: yes :P [06:15] .....*eaten [06:15] nalioth: sorry... i tried using Xine again and it blew up... === Imsdle [~fesf@203.184.2.163] has joined #ubuntu [06:16] wow, blew up. [06:16] how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it? [06:16] sunrex: k, go to ~ or wherever you put the file you downloaded [06:16] MidNightRaVeN: amd64 users have lots of trouble with some things [06:16] yea.... kaboom... [06:16] my evoluiton has crashed.. can anyone tell me where the emails are stored? [06:16] i put it on desktop.. [06:16] Boom Boom [06:16] MidNightRaVeN: you may wish to reinstall with an x86 arch [06:16] i dont think xine is good for just sound.. [06:16] i need to back then up then reintall evolution [06:16] OK gang, I have to get to bed, gotta catch a flight in the morning. Take care and enjoy! [06:16] Imsdle: ~/.evolution [06:16] how do i install with a x86 arch? === digitalfox|dnd is now known as digitalfox [06:17] Danar: so... CD /home/desktop/thename? [06:17] bddebian: Scooby dooby doo!! [06:17] :-) [06:17] bddebian: see ya. [06:17] sunrex: ok, 'cd ~/.desktop/' [06:17] MidNightRaVeN: d/l a x86 install cd [06:17] Nalioth, qemu, where do i find that at [06:17] damnit lol [06:17] why the .? [06:17] what does ~/. mean? [06:17] sunrex: er, ~/Desktop [06:17] because its hidden, just like my face [06:17] oh [06:17] nalioth: that means I'm gonna have to switch over to XP... [06:17] ~/Desktop [06:17] Imsdle: ~ = home dir === jasmuz [~jasmuz@14sdl30m44.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [06:17] how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it? [06:17] who is hidden, desktop? [06:18] Xp... two evil letters.... [06:18] Danar: cd ~/Desktop/all-29950412.bz2_FILES ? [06:18] lol [06:18] MrBiscuit: Athlon XP :) [06:18] thanks for your help people, I will be back for more later :P [06:18] trung: check backports if they have the version. [06:18] Well [06:18] Ok sorta kinda evil letters [06:18] nalioth: think that'll make everything pretty much go away compared to now? [06:18] eXtreme Programming. [06:18] sunrex: you can't cd into a file. cd = change directory [06:18] MidNightRaVeN: ask for opinons in here, i'm by far not the smartest fella [06:18] Danar: oh....LOL === NoHope [~silas@201-13-45-189.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:18] there is nothing in my home directory other then the user folder [06:19] sunrex: cd ~/Desktop [06:19] dabaR, what is backports? === Arkainium [~mark@pool-70-23-250-85.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] ask ubotu [06:19] imsdle: try show hidden files [06:19] MidNightRaVeN: the x86 arches are far more developed than amd64 [06:19] has anyone messed with amd64 a lot and found that x86_64 is worse or better than just x86 on it??? [06:19] MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to accomplish? [06:19] ubotu, what is backports? [06:19] trung: what are you talking about? [06:19] Danar: root@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib # cd ~/Desktop [06:19] bash: cd: /root/Desktop: No such file or directory === Yuki [~Yukiko@d205-206-117-242.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] !backports [06:19] well, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ [06:19] Danar: your talking to a almost 100% newb here remember lol [06:19] sunrex: then, sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/ [06:19] IceDC571: a solid OS that I can watch DVDs, browse, download, etc etc [06:20] sunrex: oh, you're root already. forget sudo then [06:20] found it [06:20] thanks [06:20] MidNightRaVeN: so whats your problem? [06:20] !info backports [06:20] sunrex: you shouldn't be operating as root [06:20] . === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:20] Danar: o... [06:20] !backports [06:20] methinks backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ === ```bulldogg [~agoofyguy@ip68-13-59-67.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:20] sunrex: never log in as root, and don't run graphical apps as root. [06:20] sunrex: use sudo to run commands as root [06:21] oh ITS RUNNING YAY lol. [06:21] jok nerolinux looks great so far, testing a dvd / bin image [06:21] -j [06:21] who the dvd? === theplateau [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] dabaR, eh? [06:21] Hmmm.... Maybe i should move the phone company 1800 feet closer to my house and get dsl... [06:21] i can only see the top half of the women unless i sudo [06:21] IceDC571: as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work [06:21] misfit_toy: q was for sunrex . [06:21] ah [06:21] sunrex: if you make a mistake as root you can kill your system. root is the highest authority, and it will do whatever you tell it to do, even if you tell it to delete everything (rm -rf /) cause it assumes you know what you're doing. [06:22] Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/ [06:22] Password: [06:22] tar: filname: Cannot open: No such file or directory [06:22] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [06:22] tar: Child returned status 2 [06:22] tar: /usr/local/codecs: Not found in archive [06:22] tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [06:22] .. [06:22] MidNightRaVeN: thats a strange error, have you tried installing your graphic drivers? === misfit_toy whaps sunrex for flooding === caskey [~caskey@adsl-66-159-247-125.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] sunrex: you missed a folder [06:22] sunrex: heh. you were supposed to substitute 'filename' for the name of the file, which i've forgotten === khwarizmi [~krischan@p54B80AF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] sunrex: replace the filname for the name of the file you are untaring [06:22] sunrex: you can use tab completion too [06:23] IceDC571: well... yesterday i was helped by another Linux guru and I believe in the process of getting my sound card to work, we installed the video drivers... is there a way to double check cuz maybe not [06:23] sunrex: missed "lib" [06:23] I've been trying to install libusb-dev and I keep getting an error: "MD5Sum mismatch", when wgetting the file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libu/libusb/libusb-dev_0.1.8-17ubuntu2_i386.deb, and manually checking, it doesn't match [06:23] sunrex: /usr/local/lib/codecs [06:23] However, when using the packages.ubuntu.com interface, I get the right md5 [06:23] sunrex: yeh, missed 'lib' too [06:23] Danar: ..*sweat drops* [06:23] caskey: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [06:23] (from mirror.clarkson.edu anyway) === ZeXr0 [ZeXr0@modemcable086.74-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] caskey: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent [06:23] sunrex: heh. take it easy === co_ckp [~co_ckp@202.95.133.18] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] caskey: repos are wonky today === ukato [~trey@ip24-251-109-39.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] sunrex: one step at a time [06:24] MidNightRaVeN: sorry, i dont know much.. maybe someone else could help you, what type of video card do you have? [06:24] Nvidia 6800 gt [06:24] I'm trying to install ubuntu via NetBoot, and I have some difficulties with TFTPD on Windows Xp. Someone can help me ? [06:24] nalioth, This has been the case for several days, I'll remove the 'us' from my archive set though and try again [06:24] sunrex: so, sudo tar -jxvf FILENAME /usr/local/lib/codecs/ [06:24] caskey: that will work. [06:25] nalioth: who started the group thing? [06:25] caskey: you can leave them that way, it'll just round-robin you to the next available server [06:25] Danar: sould i rename that file.. [06:25] dabaR: me and Mez [06:25] IceDC571: a nvidia 6800 gt [06:25] sunrex: why? === cantik [~cantik@202.95.133.18] has joined #ubuntu [06:25] sunrex: just use tab completion. type the first few chars and hit TAB [06:25] Danar: all-29950412.bz2_FILES [06:25] MidNightRaVeN: i think it might be a video driver problem.. but i dont use nvidia so i cant help you there sorry [06:25] sunrex: uh, is that the actual filename? [06:25] nalioth, Well, whichever one I've been getting has consistently had the wrong checksum on that .deb. Changing to just archive.ubuntu.com fixes allows me to apt-get the libusb-dev package though [06:26] mez who? [06:26] Danar: yes.. [06:26] sunrex: should be all-blah.bz2 [06:26] MidNightRaVeN, what are you trying to do? [06:26] IceDC571: np =) thx for trying though [06:26] well... ok [06:26] Danar: nvm...theres another folder in it.. [06:26] dabaR: a user in here with nickname of Mez [06:26] misfit_toy: as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work [06:26] dabaR: its on the page [06:26] nalioth: so whats so special about the group? [06:26] Anyone in here use dialup? === ColonelKernel [~ishai@24-182-1-194.bb-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu === CaptainMorgan [~CaptainMo@nh-londndry-c41-bg2a-01-221.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === gp_aaron [~gp_aaron@S0106000d87b24134.tb.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] what is the difference when I am part, from right now? [06:27] misfit_toy: can't figure out basically how to get DVDs to play cuz Totem just stalls and Xine has errors === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] anyone here use fluxbox? [06:27] is there a package for limewire in apt? [06:27] MrBiscuit: i use my cell phone.. does that count? [06:27] is there a rescue mode for ubuntu? I seem to have put my root password in wrong [06:27] dabaR: official recognition [06:27] Or have a basic understanding of PPP in linux === co_ckp [~co_ckp@202.95.133.18] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === vipur [~vipur@24.131.215.153] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] ok, now all people with a sound problem in unison... [06:27] MrBiscuit: isnt PPP only for dsl? [06:27] w00t! [06:27] hi, crimsun. [06:27] colonelkernel: see ubuntuguide.com [06:27] sound problem... [06:27] .. [06:28] egi - thanks [06:28] Danar: crap [06:28] IceDC571: Not really unless you have a modemattached to it [06:28] IceDC571: no, ppp is for dialup...pppoe is for dsl [06:28] can someone check? [06:28] ohh i see [06:28] misfit_toy: any ideas? [06:28] Danar: tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf all-20050412 /usr/local/lib/codecs/ [06:28] tar: all-20050412: Cannot read: Is a directory [06:28] tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now [06:28] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [06:28] bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; [06:28] perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. [06:28] bzip2: Invalid argument [06:28] Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) [06:28] It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. [06:28] You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. [06:28] wow.. um.. [06:28] You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover [06:28] data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. [06:28] tar: Child returned status 2 [06:28] tar: /usr/local/lib/codecs: Not found in archive [06:28] ColonelKernel: watch ubotu [06:28] tar: Error exit delayed from FLOOD lol [06:28] !ubguide [06:28] [ubguide] Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3) === rocksolid [rok@corp.detrok.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] I ran pppconfig correctly with KDE,exactly like i ran it without it [06:28] its like im in an actual terminal of errors right now [06:28] egi: Please do not advise ubuntuguide. Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines [06:29] And now i don't how to connect because it changed around alot of stuff [06:29] sunrex: yeh, sounds like it wasn't finished downloading [06:29] anyone got a freesecond? [06:29] nalioths_dog: thx [06:29] gp_aaron: shoot [06:29] sunrex: please do not flood in here [06:29] nalioth: do you have a cat? [06:29] follow the dog......lol [06:29] I don't understand how to install firefox update 1.04. What do I do? [06:29] sunrex: delete it from the desktop, and in the terminal, run 'cd ~' then 'wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2' === JE [~joseph@71-34-135-201.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] ubuntuguide.com not found [06:29] Danar:..great...it SAID finished... [06:29] Nalioth: sorry [06:30] IceDC571: every linux user has a cat [06:30] thanks crimsun, can you check if limewire is in the apt repo for ubuntu? [06:30] ahhh sorry about that [06:30] he can tell you without checking. [06:30] I had to google - my isp's dns servers are hurting right now [06:30] anyone have an nvidia system and 64 and no anything about the two together??? [06:30] know* [06:30] funny, you asked the right [person. [06:30] so.. who wants to show me pics of their cats? [06:30] nalioth, I don't have a cat === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] gp_aaron: sure you do, open a terminal and call one [06:31] gp_aaron: try cat in a terminal === bbailey [~bbailey@adsl-149-127-185.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] hehe [06:31] gp_aaron: limewire can be downloaded from their site, and then it runs, cause its Java. [06:31] oh i thought you ment pet cat:P [06:31] blegh.... so tired... dieing.... wishes ubuntu would just work.... [06:31] Danar: am i supposed to do this in ROOT terminal [06:31] sunrex: also, i goofed the command. you should actually cd into /usr/local/lib/codecs, and run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar [06:31] sunrex: no [06:31] MidNightRaVeN: ask crimsun. [06:31] sunrex: avoid root and use sudo [06:31] dabaR, I know that, I just wondering if it is in the repo [06:32] it is not. [06:32] ok [06:32] thanks [06:32] crimsun: are you busy? [06:32] welcome [06:32] I don't use ubuntu anymore so I don't know these things [06:32] MidNightRaVeN: hi [06:32] sunrex: so, did it download? [06:32] does anyone know what the command is for emerging things like KDE? [06:32] crimsun: i don't mean to bother you... but you think you might be able to help me? [06:32] Danar: yes [06:32] gp_aaron: you can check via http://package.ubuntu.com === _LokeDK [loke@216-55-137-12.dedicated.abac.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop [06:33] Yuki: emerging? you mean d/l and installing? [06:33] MidNightRaVeN: with? [06:33] sunrex: and ? [06:33] yeah [06:33] oh god.. emerging in ubuntu [06:33] Danar: and? [06:33] gp_aaron: that's packages.ubuntu.com, sorry [06:33] MidNightRaVeN: stop beating around the bush, ask the question,. [06:33] I kinda don't want to use GNOME, I'd rather have KDE [06:33] pretty soon gentoo people will use the command evolve and think they're kool with KDE === Dr_Willis [~willis@12-222-71-130.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] Gotta crash. Many thanks dabaR, nalioth, naloths_dog!! [06:33] :) [06:33] see ya [06:33] Danar: was i supposed to exstract it.. [06:33] sunrex: did you cd to the codecs dir, and extract the files? === packman_e [~packman_e@host-84-9-85-161.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] crimsun, I got it thanks though, Yuki kubuntu-desktop [06:33] Danar: oops...gotta redownload lol === _RossH [~littldevl@freedomhost.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] hello all [06:34] thanks crimsun, dabaR [06:34] bye now [06:34] Yuki: see my command above [06:34] sunrex: what? again? [06:34] crimsun: i can't read DVDs cuz I get an error in Xine saying audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type and I dunno what to do about it... Totem just freezes if i try it and Xine as well keeps crashing Ubuntu [06:34] its like.. im a newb gentoo user how do i upgrade firefox?.... easy, use evolve firefox [06:34] Danar: yup lol [06:34] sunrex: don't tell me you downloaded it just to delete it?? [06:34] I have a geforce 4 mx440, should i get nvidia-glx? [06:34] ok [06:34] but is it possible to emerge KDE in ubuntu? [06:34] sunrex: then what was the point of downloading it? o.O [06:34] MidNightRaVeN: does sound work in other contexts? [06:34] crimsun: MidNightRaVeN is using amd64 arch [06:34] Evolving firefox... omg im freakin out!! === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] qt2: sure === gp_aaron [~gp_aaron@S0106000d87b24134.tb.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:34] Yuki, yet, cia synaptic. [06:34] (Anyone ever install Ubuntu via NetBoot [06:34] sunrex: you were supposed to delete the old one :p [06:34] qt2, why not? === TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] crimsun: yea, it works fine with cds and such [06:35] Yuki: like, compile it? [06:35] ZeXr0: you can do it that way [06:35] MidNightRaVeN: do you have libdvdcss2 installed? [06:35] ZeXr0: takes a bit of work [06:35] Danar: doesnt work [06:35] sunrex: cd to ~, and press up until you see the wget command again, and run it [06:35] cause emerge means nothing in ubuntu [06:35] sunrex: what doesn't? [06:35] i just realized [06:35] crimsun: nalioth tried helping with that and compiling it from source... but couldn't get it to work cuz of my 64 [06:35] nalioth: else if there is any floppy that I can install ubuntu from, because I don't have cddrive === BeefTube [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] people say two point O instead of two point zero [06:35] thats neat! [06:35] Danar: if i posed it here i would be banned for flooding [06:36] like 2.0 [06:36] crimsun: so no it's not installed === mig [~ubuntu@c-67-191-153-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] sunrex: that's what pastebins are for [06:36] ? [06:36] yeah, I want to use KDE instead of GNOME [06:36] is that possible? [06:36] just installed the ATI drivers and the control pannel... anyone know how I can open the control pannel? TIA :) [06:36] MidNightRaVeN: it's available from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main [06:36] sunrex: /join #flood [06:36] ZeXr0: got your pencil? [06:36] sunrex: you can paste in there [06:36] hi, am using ubuntu live-cd, how do i make changes permanent? [06:36] Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, again. === scoperes [~scoperes@adsl-68-255-102-14.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] ack marillat?!? [06:36] ah ok [06:36] crimsun: but how do i install it? [06:36] tyty [06:36] Yuki: yes, use synaptic to install "kubuntu-desktop" [06:37] mig: you'd have to install it to the hard drive. it's not a rewriteable cd [06:37] mig, I believe the idea of a live-cd is that it's not permanent. [06:37] how long will it take? [06:37] welcome [06:37] nalioth :.. got a floppy drive and a NetWork card that's all [06:37] MidNightRaVeN: sorry man, i'm very tired, i forgot marillat [06:37] Ninwa: no, that's an often useful sideaffect :p [06:37] download times depend on download speed. [06:37] ZeXr0: ok you ready to write (or log) [06:37] yeah [06:37] hmm, ninwa/danar...not possible to save some settings to HD? [06:37] MidNightRaVeN: you should add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2 [06:37] nalioth: not your fault. What is it? === trung [~trung@203.113.161.83] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] will it take 3 days like gentoo does? XD [06:38] MidNightRaVeN: follow crimsuns advice [06:38] mig: well, you could for certain apps, like firefox, but you'd have to configure it each time to use those settings [06:38] crimsun: what is the aptitude equivalent of apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*? [06:38] nalioth: kk [06:38] Danar, Assuming the disc was rewritable, I suppose... disk-writing would be unbearably slow though. [06:38] crimsun: im bad at the whole source list thing... so let me try [06:38] Danar:tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$ sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tartar: /home/tyler/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory [06:38] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [06:38] tar: Child returned status 2 [06:38] tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [06:38] tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$ [06:38] Yuki: less, there is no compilation involved. [06:38] Kopete ate my dog === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] ZeXr0: go to debian.org and download the woody netinst floppy images === reka [~Unknown@wnpp-p-144-134-167-7.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] how long do you think? [06:38] I didn't know people still used Kopete. [06:38] fglrx does nothing from commandline... how can I tweak my ATI settings? I installed a control pannel... TIA :) [06:38] sunrex, please use http://pastebin.com [06:38] runnig live-cd, i cannot see my 3 HDs installed on the box..??? [06:39] sunrex: yeh, you ran the old command i told you. i had it backwards though [06:39] Ninwa: I use kopete...what's wrong with it? === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] Ninwa: what do people use for chatting in KDE then? [06:39] yuki, again, I told you, download time depends on download speed. [06:39] How do I update firefox in ubuntu? [06:39] i was hoping to save live-cd settings in a partition/.. [06:39] dabaR: the metapackage? gstreamer0.8-plugins? (or do you mean the syntax, which is identical to apt-get's in that context) [06:39] you are downloading there. [06:39] sunrex: do it exactly like this... === speel [~speel@cpe-24-90-224-86.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] The_Vox, Nothing I suppose. IceDC571, XChat and Gaim of course! [06:39] yes, for a * === Davey|Work [davey@140.99.30.50] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] hey if i excidently deleted gnome system panel is there a way how to restore it? [06:39] hm, so how big is the file then? That'll answer my question better XD === Zaphod_ [~Agrajag@66-215-172-61.sb-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] stanford: the ubuntu version already has 1.0.4's security updates [06:39] sunrex: after downloading the file in ~ cd to /usr/local/lib/codecs [06:39] ZeXr0: make sure you get all the images (you'll be installing a very minimal debian) [06:39] crimsun: if you dont get that, cause it was a little weird, aptitude does not recognize * [06:40] reka, so its a bug? [06:40] ubuntu rocks [06:40] sunrex: then run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar [06:40] yuki it gets a lot of files, please try, I have no clue [06:40] worked out of the box for me [06:40] Ninwa: gaim looks ugly on kde and there's nothing practical that it has that kopete doesn't have, at least in what I use/need [06:40] lol ok [06:40] why do you think I would know the size of some file? [06:40] ZeXr0: when you get this minimal debian (woody) installed, put this sources.list in place of the one that came with teh debian [06:40] thanks though ^^ [06:40] stanford: what is? [06:40] reka, mozilla.org says i don't have .04 [06:40] stanford: it's a feature [06:40] ZeXr0: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [06:40] Danar: how do i put the files in there thou === humbraro [~humbraro@67.189.28.82] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] reka, and in "about firefox" it says 1.04 [06:40] hmm...so i guess it is much better to actually install ubuntu, than use live-cd?? [06:40] ZeXr0: the link the dog sent you [06:40] sunrex: oops. filename might be different. use tab completion [06:40] crimsun: so, there is the metapackage for all gstreamers, then? [06:40] sunrex: what do you mean? [06:41] welcome [06:41] anyone have trouble with an Atheros card ? [06:41] stanford: type about:config in the address bar [06:41] okay :P [06:41] sunrex: it's an archive. that's what you're doing [06:41] we need a !anyone [06:41] crimsun: like i said... i stink at the whole source list thing... how should it look in the source list file?? like ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ and something before and after it? === sig [~sig@sig.user] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] stanford: then filter for "vendorsub" [06:41] ZeXr0: at that poing, you can "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have ubuntu [06:41] stanford: read what the whole page they pop at you says....it's an ubuntu/kubuntu package problem, and the solution is right on an URL in that page [06:41] stanford: then change the value to 1.0.4 [06:41] sunrex: i'm telling you how to extract the files into that dir [06:41] dabaR: there's gstreamer0.8-plugins [06:41] exactly as he said above, MidNightRaVeN . [06:41] Danar: so all i type is this sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar [06:41] nalioth I can't do that now if I already have debian installed ? [06:41] MidNightRaVeN: enter the entire deb line that I gave you [06:41] ok, cool, so how about the asterisk thing, does aptitude do that? [06:42] ZeXr0: if its woody, certainly [06:42] reka, ok i wasn't quite sure what it was saying. I thought that would be called a bug [06:42] sunrex: er, type ~/all instead [06:42] Danar: BINGO FOUND PROBLEM theres no TAR on end [06:42] ColonelKernel, what was your question? :D [06:42] ZeXr0: this method is not pretty at all from sarge/sid/etch [06:42] cause you have the folder. [06:42] sunrex: that is, hit tab, not typing '' [06:42] Danar:.. [06:42] sunrex: well if you had listened to me, that wouldn't be a problem. i said before to use tab completion [06:42] is there a way how to restore original gnome panel? [06:43] stanford: yes...but one with a solution :) [06:43] crimsun: does it matter that it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" ? [06:43] dabaR: use ~ [06:43] eskaypey: none that i know of...but you remember where things went, right? [06:43] MidNightRaVeN: that doesnt matter [06:43] sunrex: for some reason there is on mine. it's firefox's fault [06:43] eskaypey: you removed stuff from it? try right clicking, and add to panel what you want on it. [06:43] nalioth okay :P thanks for the info, I will try this tomorow :P thank you :) [06:43] crimsun: ah. [06:43] MidNightRaVeN: see wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary [06:43] nalioth: kk [06:43] Danar: the tab worked before...now it wont completion...and it still doent for for downloading === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] ZeXr0: np === ```bulldogg [~agoofyguy@ip68-13-59-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] dabaR: no removed the actual panel [06:44] <```bulldogg> okay what is the default root password for ubuntu [06:44] sunrex: how would tab completion "work" for downloading??? === skel_ [~skel@pcp08123387pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] sunrex: what're you trying to do now? [06:44] Anyone know how to autosignin with GAIM on freenode? It works on anything else... [06:44] Danar: i mean it wont pick up the file [06:44] right click on a panel, new panel [06:44] then add to the panel what you want on it. [06:44] ```bulldogg, no root password is initially set [06:44] Danar: sould i extract it on the desktop then use the thing? [06:44] not sure if you can get the old one, tho. [06:44] k [06:44] <```bulldogg> okay so how do I set it? [06:44] ```bulldogg: more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo [06:44] ```bulldogg: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [06:44] ```bulldogg, use sudo all the time === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:44] anyone know anything about belkin pcmcia wired nic and an old laptop? === derf [~derf@c-24-34-179-197.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:44] nalioth i'll give you a feedback of that :P [06:44] sunrex: simply type sudo tar -jxvf ~/all [06:45] ZeXr0: please do [06:45] crimsun: after install of libdvdcss it still gives same audio_decoder error... === BeefTube is now known as HumbleBeefTube [06:45] Danar: i am and nothings happening [06:45] sunrex: it should at least say not found [06:45] Danar: do you mean ALL or do i put in somthing else... [06:45] MidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss2, not libdvdcss [06:45] MidNightRaVeN: did you check what sound output its using? [06:45] Danar: it doesnt [06:46] MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to play? [06:46] jasmuz: you mean xine or something else? [06:46] jasmuz: a dvd === jond [~laura@pool-70-20-160-186.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] sunrex: i mean, type the first 3 chars of the filename, which are a, l, l. then hit tab [06:46] Danar:i mean tab isint working like it was =/ wont pick up on anything [06:46] Danar: i am...nothings happening === _james_ [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] <```bulldogg> figured it out thanks [06:46] MidNightRaVeN: xine dosent play my dvd's correctly...i do it via Mplayer [06:46] crimsun: it was libdvdcss2... just forgot the 2 part [06:47] sunrex: clear everything on the command line, and type cd /et [06:47] anyone know how to launch the ATI control pannel from commandline? [06:47] jasmuz: hmmm, what happened when you tried to play it in xine? [06:47] MidNightRaVeN: what application? [06:47] Beagle is indescribably awesome. [06:47] sunrex: substitute with the tab key, of course === neighborlee [~neighborl@pppoe-64-91-69-141.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu === GigaClon [~gigaclon@68-232-98-224.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] MidNightRaVeN: gave me the same error you have [06:47] that worked.. [06:47] ok, later, Im out, Ubuntu to all of you:) [06:47] Danar: that worked.. [06:47] sunrex: then you probably had a space at the beginning or something === cleit0n [~fox@dial-up-200-184-4-210.intelignet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] hi all [06:48] sunrex: try again [06:48] jasmuz: if this works... o man will i be happy! [06:48] sudo tar -jxvf ~/all [06:48] MidNightRaVeN: try using mplayer, it did play my dvd [06:48] danar:sudo tar -jxvf ~/all [06:48] sunrex: yeh.. subbing with the tab key [06:49] jasmuz: just installed... going to try... pray for me! [06:49] danar: you sure thats the correct command? [06:49] hi, how i mount cdrom or hd in user mode? [06:49] MidNightRaVeN: use the menu, and select the chapter you want === aisipos [~aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] sunrex: i'm telling you to use tab completion to complete the filename, so you don't make a mistake === buffbikedude [~ben@MTI-8.ppp.nau.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] sunrex: and also for ease, and efficiency [06:49] Danar: and im telling u its not filling anything in.... [06:50] cleit0n: sudo mount /dev/xxx /mountpointx [06:50] sunrex: then the file is not there, or you're not in the right directory [06:50] Danar: right.. [06:50] jasmuz: how do i select the chapter? [06:50] Danar:Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$ [06:50] sunrex: either you forgot to redownload it, or you deleted it again, or you didn't save it there, or... [06:50] Danar: the file is on desktop.. [06:50] sunrex: yeh [06:51] sunrex: arg, you didn't listen [06:51] Danar: ..sorry...just having truble following along lol [06:51] sunrex: this would have been done an hour ago if you had followed my directions :/ [06:51] MidNightRaVeN: left click on the screen, dvd->open dvd [06:51] sunrex: k, you never ran wget then [06:51] Danar: he has a folder with teh extracted file in it. [06:51] Danar: =/ i noticed *sigh* [06:51] just mv it to the new location. [06:51] Danar: wget...wget...huh.. [06:51] does anyone know of a self-contained script or x86 binary I can download that would convert a file from mp3 to flac? [06:52] sunrex: so the path you were specifying is wrong cause you didn't put it where i said. that's why tab completion failed [06:52] sunrex: yeh, at one point i said to wget [06:52] buffbikedude: dont do that [06:52] sunrex: from ~ === nalioth is now known as nalioth_zZz [06:52] jasmuz: for what reason? space or legality? [06:52] sunrex: that would have put it where i expected it to be. when you said you had finished downloading it again, i thought you did it with wget [06:52] Danar:ok....so what i do...just give me a list LOL === qt2 blinks. [06:53] sunrex: i did give a list. you skipped a few steps :p [06:53] Danar:OH sorry [06:53] danar write out a pastebin [06:53] heh [06:53] buffbikedude: you already lost the quality when it was recorded from the original to the mp3 (mp3 is Lossy, looses bits and pieces everywhere) [06:53] what's this 'aptitude' everyone is talking about, i have 'synaptic'... o.O; [06:53] or a script even:) [06:53] buffbikedude: you should try from mp3 to ogg [06:53] lol, not a bad idea [06:53] I keep getting an error when I'm trying to apt-get stuff.... its in the pastebin. :3 [06:53] Danar:so...what do i do lol [06:53] qt2: aptitude is just kinda like a command line synaptic [06:53] jasmuz: well transcoding to ogg causes a further loss in quality, does it not? [06:53] ah [06:53] buffbikedude: ogg is lossy too but has a better compression scheme [06:54] DekaPink: a md5sum error? === Burrito [~Gonzalo@pc-237-165-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] Danar:cant you just remote accsess my computer? lol [06:54] dabaR: Yeah. === jago [~jago@24-231-191-215.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === MrBiscuit [~chatzilla@1Cust7298.an4.dca16.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] jazmuz: but isn't it different enough that you cannot transcode from mp3 to ogg without a sharp drop in quality? === mello6 [~mellowyll@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] jasmuz: only ? [06:54] DekaPink: remove us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file [06:54] hm, does ubuntu run on xorg? [06:54] buffbikedude: not really...depends on how compressed you want it know...still the diference isnt easy to note [06:54] jasmuz: i can't find where it says DVD... [06:54] qt2: hoary does. [06:54] Anyone here now use dialup or understand PPP on Linux? === reka raises hand === Adross [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] dabaR, does that mean i can just drop in the xorg config file from my gentoo install? [06:55] MidNightRaVeN: left click says clearly DVD [06:55] dabaR: Thank you. :) [06:55] MrBiscuit: i do! === hosler [~hosler@AC92B4BB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] Danar:so what do i do *crys* [06:55] ok then, I'll repose the question. does anyone know where I can get a self-contained mp3 to ogg executable? [06:55] jasmuz: Do you use KDE? [06:55] qt2: hopefully:) make a backup of the one that is there now. === killapop [~allan@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] jasmuz: not on mine.... should i get the regular mplayer and not the one that says 64 ? [06:55] dabaR, oki ;) [06:56] MrBiscuit: no i use Gnome, but have used KDE [06:56] When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this? [06:56] then if you screw up, go to the console alt+ctrl+f4 and rename the file again. [06:56] backup-rename the current file [06:56] then rename it back if it gets borged. [06:56] MidNightRaVeN: what do you get when you run Mplayer? [06:56] I was at a lan the other day, and, as such, using Windows. Some kid brought a virus and, due to it really screwing me over, I had to format. Since the format however, GRUb won't allow me to boot into windows at all, instead presenting me an 'unknown partition type' error. Out of desperation, I formatted Ubuntu thinking that Grub would detect it as normal. This wasn't the case, as nothing was detected. So please, can somebody shed some light on t [06:56] he situation? As I have another lan to go to. [06:56] jasmuz: How did you set upand connect using KDE === vaultspawn [~btluczek@ip68-106-38-118.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] buffbikedude: mp32ogg [06:56] setup* === ```bulldogg [~agoofyguy@ip68-13-59-67.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:56] jasmuz: just a little screen that looks like an audio file player [06:57] local area network? [06:57] jasmuz: doesn't have any open screen or anything [06:57] MrBiscuit: come again === elmaya [~elmaya@201.133.215.178] has joined #ubuntu === Imsdle [~fesf@203.184.1.109] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] How did you set up a PPP connection and connect to the internet using it on KDE? [06:57] MidNightRaVeN: odd :/ [06:57] Hello, when i use alsamixer to show my sound config, Pcm and Master are just 0, i can't up or down the sound , can anybody help me ? [06:57] Adross: lan? [06:57] MrBiscuit: use kppp [06:57] MrBiscuit, have u tried kppp? [06:57] Yea [06:57] reka: I'm looking there. they're saying that it loses data, in red. I'm thinking maybe mp32flac would be a better solution for me. [06:58] It connects me [06:58] But stays at the screen Logging on to Network [06:58] Adross: use lilo :P === hazmat [~hazmat@63.81.254.3] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] Trace: cat /proc/asound/modules [06:58] as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon [06:58] imageshack is amazing.. I don't know how they remain free.. [06:58] heh [06:58] Trace: what is your pc? [06:58] jasmuz: as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon === adwait [~adwait@59.182.8.121] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] hey ppl === adwait is back [06:58] Lufusol, i don't think that would work, as it seems to be a partition error [06:59] MrBiscuit: did you check the protocol you are using to identify, it must be PAP [06:59] i have tried reformating windows to no avail [06:59] snd-intel8x0 [06:59] oh, hes back, cause i thought the join notice was false. [06:59] It is [06:59] But how would i use a connection i made in pppconfig [06:59] and my sound card is integrated. [06:59] dabaR: :p [06:59] MidNightRaVeN: your mplayer is strange [06:59] Adross: what is a lan? [06:59] local area network [06:59] Local Area Net === linuxpoet [~jd@clbb-248.saw.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [06:59] Silicon Integrated System, 1039:7012 [06:59] ok, why does one have to use windows on a lan? [06:59] computer party, we go over to each others house with our comps and play games [06:59] MrBiscuit: LAN connection in pppconfig? maybe u should use pppoe? [06:59] MrBiscuit: go to the run area, and type pon [07:00] for games, as i don't yet have cedega [07:00] *pppoeconfig [07:00] aha. [07:00] adwait; No i have dialup [07:00] jasmuz: when i get it from synaptic, it says amd64 - mplayer so maybe i dunno... is that the one you have? [07:00] anyone get any ideas? [07:00] ooh ok... [07:00] so, what are you saying, you have one HD, Adross ? [07:00] Trace: give me the lspci -v audio line [07:00] yes, partitioned [07:00] Trace: paste the output to the pastebin in the topic [07:00] pon? How will i know if it's connected or not [07:00] ok, and you have windows, and ubuntu installed? [07:00] the mp32ogg page is funny, because it links directly to a page that says what mp32ogg allows them to do is generally a bad idea === umar [~umar@202.147.163.251] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this? [07:00] and you had ubuntu, and reinstalled windows? [07:00] dabaR, yess [07:00] MidNightRaVeN: no, but i dont have an AMD64 either [07:01] hello all [07:01] and ubuntu still works? you did not install windows right. [07:01] dabaR, yes, and just now, reinstalled ubuntu [07:01] MrBiscuit: you will know when you have internet connectivity [07:01] any linux database programmer here? [07:01] 0000:00:02.7 Mulitimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated System[sis] 5513[IDE] [07:01] Ok, thanks [07:01] after installing windows on top of ubuntu, ubuntu should not load. [07:01] I'll try it out [07:01] what do you mean database programmer? [07:01] jasmuz: yea... so maybe it's different cuz it's the 64 bit version...=/ [07:01] did it load, Adross ? [07:01] Subsystem: Unknown device 1849:7012 [07:01] Adross: why did you reinstall ubuntu again? [07:01] ubuntu is working right now, after reinstalled windows, i came into no problems with ubuntu. I know, odd [07:02] MidNightRaVeN: probably, i wouldnt know for sure [07:02] xp loaded right after install, then the grub would not load [07:02] Adross: ya, did windows ever boot after the install? === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:02] yeah, that should be like that. [07:02] i mean to ask how can we have a database in linux and a prgramming language which provides us interface for that database [07:02] Adross: expected [07:02] jasmuz: thx for the advice though cuz i'll try working a bit more on it [07:02] Linux Newbie here..........downloaded realplayer install package........how do you install this on my computer appropriately??? [07:02] ok, so then you reinstalled ubuntu, and now grub comes up? [07:02] i reinstalled ubuntu just now because grub recahces all the os's installed. It was my last ditch efford === flugh [~jim@pool-70-22-40-252.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] like Visual Basic and SQL Server in windows [07:02] MidNightRaVeN: you are wlcomed [07:02] no, thats it, ubuntu is the only detected os [07:02] Adross: you could have just reinstalled grub. [07:03] i would of came to the same result [07:03] but grub comes up, right? === caskey [~caskey@adsl-66-159-247-125.dslextreme.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:03] vaultspawn: that plainly sucks. [07:03] does anyone have the canadian source list? [07:03] grub lives in the MBR - installing XP wipes it out - reinstalling Ubuntu puts it back... [07:03] or know where i can find it? [07:03] yes it does [07:03] MidNightRaVeN: just add ca. in front of all uurls. [07:03] no, it doesn't. at least it didn't when i first booted my new ubuntu install [07:03] vaultspawn: you should install it from the repositories [07:04] ya, mayube you need to ress a button. [07:04] Lufusol: no need to reinstall [07:04] ok === Danar_ [~User@d863c78d4873b648.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [07:04] anyone know how to make a DVD normal looking and not fuzzy... [07:04] or something during load to show grub. [07:04] whats fuzzy? [07:04] dabaR: do you have just a simple source list then cuz mine has been altered so many times i just want a fresh one i guess you could say [07:04] hmm, in that case, it seems probable that xp, at least the disk i used, did not correctly write to the boot section === Razor-X [~user@user-11fa6cm.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:04] what i'm saying is WHEN he reinstalled, it put grub back [07:04] dumb question......what is a repository?? [07:04] sunrex: sorry, guess i had connection trouble [07:04] Danar:ah [07:04] sunrex: did you carry out those commands? [07:04] how else would grub be loading after he reinstalled XP, unless he followed it with some other installation of linux that puts GRUB in the mbr? [07:04] Lufusol: for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [07:04] err, are there any more... well rounded... apt repositories...? [07:04] vaultspawn: is a server that hosts the sofware for the OS [07:05] www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list add ca. in front of all urls, and try updating, the security.ubuntu.com may not work, so remove the ca. from it after. [07:05] got it [07:05] Danar:i need to know what i missed [07:05] for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [07:05] "libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [07:05] ? === Fikrann [~fikrann@zmt.zinc.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu [07:05] nalioth that section of the wiki is good, here is the GRUB manual also: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html [07:05] Hello everyone [07:05] qt2 you should stick with official repos, or your system may suffer [07:05] i assure you i did not put it back, my guess is xp didn't take it away for some reason, perhaps it had trouble writing to the mbr [07:05] sunrex: did you see the commands in #flood/ [07:05] install the .so thing. [07:05] this would explain a lot [07:05] trung: apt-get it maybe [07:05] ? [07:05] the Grub docs are awesome [07:05] hi, Fikrann . [07:05] jasmuz: thanks [07:05] !ubotu repositories [07:05] methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [07:06] OMG, It seems I don't need to think to do emacs binds any longer ;) [07:06] Danar: u mean from the list i posed [07:06] Danar:POSTED [07:06] vaultspawn: use that link that ubotu posted [07:06] Danar:i saw u join..dont see any commands [07:06] adwait, what is name of it? [07:06] sunrex: please do not use caps to corret spelling errors [07:06] When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this? [07:06] sunrex: no, i told you to look in #flood [07:06] sunrex: then i posted a list of commands [07:06] i will.....thanks for the help [07:06] Razor-X: please dont be a nazi. [07:06] sunrex: guess i was out longer than i thought [07:06] Danar:no i didint see em [07:06] bah [07:07] dabaR: it's common nettiquette, caps==shouting [07:07] sunrex: k, look in flood again [07:07] jung: umm.....libgtk i guess? [07:07] I am just getting on your case... === Mr_Smiley [~smiley@CPE-144-136-186-183.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:07] jasmuz, i use synaptic and have many name match with libgtk [07:07] Danar:k [07:07] Adross: well getting back to your problem.. just to confirm the situation.. grub loads, into what, command line mode or the menu? [07:07] why do people use slackware? [07:07] trung: uuh....no thts not it [07:07] is there one that completely matches the one the program asked for, trung ? [07:07] IceDC571: because it's highly-configurable [07:08] and powerful [07:08] grub loaded into the normal menu. Ubuntu, memtest, and xp [07:08] loading xp would fail [07:08] ok. And ubuntu works fine [07:08] IceDC571: some people like it. why do you not? [07:08] what error does it give when you choose xp? [07:08] trung: what are you looking to install? [07:08] with it saying there was an ntldr error and partition was unreadbale [07:08] yes, ubuntu works fine [07:08] ahhhhhhh [07:08] IceDC571: it's the oldest distro.. [07:08] Adross: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and put it on pastebin [07:08] i dont know, i mean.. do you have to build everything from source in slack? [07:08] IceDC571: because they like geezers [07:08] for 99% of the time, this is fine. But i'm going to a lan [07:08] or #flood, if you don't want to leave IRC [07:09] sunrex: you can delete the file on your desktop [07:09] kk, #flood it is [07:09] jasmuz, i don't know just error [07:09] danar: k...so do i do each one at one time [07:09] hmm, no windows [07:09] trung: what is your issue?...multiple entries of the same file in synaptic? [07:10] ha, I learned how to switch "windows" in irssi:P [07:10] Adross: "NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart" ? [07:11] Danar:DOWNLOADING [07:11] jasmuz: his issue is that some program does not load, cause the program wants libgtk1.02.so or something like that. [07:11] #flood is a definite use for emacs [07:11] sunrex: yeh, just one line at a time [07:11] jasmuz, yes [07:11] hmmm, i'm seeing why pastebin is more desired ;) [07:11] jasmuz, what name of package that included libgtk-1.2.so.0 [07:12] trung: what program is asking you for libgtk? [07:12] Danar: k what after sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2 [07:12] ADROSS: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/ntldr_missing.htm [07:12] dabaR: you'll really like irssi if you use it with "gnu screen" [07:12] that was the error, back when grub had windows [07:12] now it didn't detect it at all [07:12] can u still help me? [07:12] what is gnu screen? [07:12] nalioth_zZz: anything is better with GNU screen [07:12] !ops [07:12] ops is probably bob2 daniels [07:12] i know what ntldr is [07:12] is there an email client I can install? [07:12] dabaR: then, you can access your irssi from any where (library computer, etc) that has ssh [07:12] boot error [07:12] dabaR: it's a form of multiple-terminal management using the CLI [07:13] can one of you kill my ghost nick? Danar [07:13] Adross: done? [07:13] Adross: that link isn't just telling you what it is [07:13] why couldnt I now? its cli... [07:13] jasmuz, purebasic.com [07:13] Adross: it tells you how to fix it [07:13] but now grub doesn't even detect it [07:13] nalioth_zZz, so... should i compile everything not in the official repositories... [07:13] Adross: or atleast how to diagnose the situation [07:13] ? [07:13] danar:? [07:13] dabaR: you have to initiate screen, then start irssi inside it [07:13] sunrex: after that, the files should be there, and hopefully xine will see them when you run it [07:13] sunrex: try again [07:14] Danar: k [07:14] why could I not just do it with ssh? [07:14] Adross: got it saved to a file [07:14] sunrex: xine or totem or whatever you're using [07:14] its cli. [07:14] you mean so I can have another terminal open? [07:14] Danar: didint work [07:14] qt2, first try for official binarys, 2nd use apt to build from official sources 3d, build by hand (use checkinstall in place of "make install") [07:14] dabaR: exactly [07:14] i think i may be able to fix it by getting another xp disk, installing, then reinstalling ubuntu [07:15] worse comes to worse, i have pata hdd spare [07:15] ya, that makes sense, maybe I will do that when I have a use for that...Im fine now, tho,. [07:15] but, the best part about screen is, if you use screen remotely, it's de/attachable [07:15] dabaR: with screen, you can have 100s of terminals runnning inside one gnome-term window [07:15] thanks guys [07:15] I can have that now. [07:15] dabaR: Razor-X can explain it better [07:15] without tabs [07:15] its people like you that got me to change over to linux in the first place. You're really doing yourselves proud [07:15] But, I cant start gnome-term without -X [07:15] tabs take up GUI usage, and more memory usage than screen does [07:15] sunrex: what're you trying to play, and what exactly happens? [07:15] sunrex: and what're you playing with [07:15] dabaR: yeah, you can use screen without X [07:15] dabaR: screen runs in the text logins also [07:16] ok, so gnome screen? cant be two words... [07:16] but, if you're X-less, I also suggest using twin [07:16] dabaR: screen [07:16] one word [07:16] Danar:i see half the movie the other have is like a tv with no respetion....it was like this b/f to [07:16] sunrex: what players have you tried? xine, vlc, mplayer? [07:16] just screen, then, [07:16] lets see. [07:16] your computing life will never be the same [07:16] Adross: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/fixntldr.iso try burning and booting from this [07:16] trust me [07:16] Danar:Xine TOTEM totem just freezes thou [07:16] sunrex: strange === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] follow instructions on that link i gave you [07:16] not in repos... [07:16] Good night people [07:16] Razor-X: anyone who listens to you will never be the same [07:17] hmm.. === Danar_ is now known as Danar [07:17] Troll tonight [07:17] Ubuntu Foundation.. [07:17] Razor-X: emacs can run your car, plug it in [07:17] nalioth_zZz: ;) [07:17] Danar:i got no sound either [07:17] I only wish it could [07:17] I'm such a screen dedicated fan, I use emacs in screen [07:17] !info screen [07:17] screen: (a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 563 kB, Installed size: 972 kB [07:17] misc? [07:17] i'm even more dedicated about screen than I am about emacs, I just don't spread the love as much [07:17] I dont have that enabled, I dont think.. [07:17] nalioth_zZz, Provided you can sacrifice 65% of your engine's power solely to keep emacs running. [07:18] dabaR: it might be default ( i dont remember) [07:18] I hope it helps... Other than that I am out of ideas. [07:18] good luck === TimmyJ [~tim@cpe-66-67-139-238.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === crimsun [crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] sunrex: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd totem-gstreamer [07:18] can anyone suggest a Linux tutorial? [07:18] Fikrann: now i was just joshin with Razor-X. He's the one who wants to implant his sisters with emacs [07:18] I will! [07:18] GigaClon: www.tldp.org [07:18] GigaClon: go to google.com/linux and search ~guide [07:18] from age 6, she'll learn C-x C-c [07:18] thanks [07:18] you'll find tldp.org and more [07:19] Danar:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [07:19] GigaClon: but stay away from ubuntuguide [07:19] sunrex: you already have them? [07:19] Danar:i guess =/ [07:19] nalioth_zZz: ubuntuguide has become deprecated? [07:19] sunrex: tried playing something else? [07:19] !ubguide [07:19] well, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3) [07:19] Danar:no...ill try that now.. [07:19] Danar: wait i cant [07:19] sunrex: ... [07:20] im really new to Linux, just install ubuntu today [07:20] Danar:my 2 CD/DVD roms just froze and wont eject [07:20] Danar:im going to restart BRB [07:20] night, got early clients tomorrow === jocco [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] sunrex: wait [07:20] sunrex unmount them [07:20] blah.. i feel like an ass using mandrake when i was 13 [07:20] Danar: ? [07:20] sunrex: you want to restart the computer? [07:20] i should of used something like.. freebsd [07:20] sunrex: just open the tray [07:20] sunrex: got a pin? === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp0012069148pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] nalioth_zZz, what is UTFS? [07:21] IceDC571: you used Mandrake at 13? [07:21] Danar:...wtf...it just ejected.. [07:21] sunrex: actually.. oh. nvm [07:21] I plunged headfirst into Debian no-X (on mistake, of course) === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["wuffie] [07:21] I cant get blender to run,,, is there a way to install Blender 3.27a in 64bit hoary with apt-get or synaptic? TIA :) [07:21] Danar:great my music disk wont eject.. [07:21] now I reccomend it to all seriously wanting to learn Linux ;) [07:21] Razor-X: mm hmm.. i remember i couldnt make my mouse cursor something else instead of that stupid X [07:21] IceDC571: XD [07:22] i'm 15, ya know [07:22] sunrex: heh. run lsof|grep -i mnt [07:22] Razor-X: congrats, do you have a girl? [07:22] danar:? [07:22] spend a week in the command-line, even the most experienced in terminals (bust still use X) would have a hard time [07:22] IceDC571: hell no ;) [07:22] I used mandrake 10 last, now this mandriva 10.2, i got the 1-cd ISO that downloads the rest on demand but I haven't tried it yet.. that feature wasn't very reliable on previous distros [07:22] Razor-X: so linux is better than sex, eh? [07:22] anyone here use blender 3d? === hyphenated [~cgilmour@202.152.224.25] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] IceDC571: I don't do sex (long story there) [07:22] jocco: somewhat [07:23] Wikipedia "human asexual" [07:23] jocco: used it a couple times. not exactly a guru though :p [07:23] but yeah, better than being with a girl XD [07:23] jocco: there's good guides out there though [07:23] Danar: what u want me to do [07:23] Razor-X: thats cool, what distro did you start out with? [07:23] Does anyone here understand the memory layout of Linux processes very well [07:23] sunrex: i told you: run lsof|grep -i mnt [07:23] ok, I will try to find the source and compile it... [07:23] Danar: WTF OK NOW I got the DVD TO WORK...BUT IT KEEPS FREEZING [07:23] IceDC571: Debian [07:23] sunrex: install xine [07:24] anyone have 64 here? [07:24] sunrex: don't use totem. [07:24] Debian Unstable, IIRC [07:24] sunrex: sounds like you're doing stuff in the mean-time... [07:24] im running Xine [07:24] I do [07:24] and my gfx card was being a bitch [07:24] I have AMD64 [07:24] sunrex: oh, well do you have glx acceleration [07:24] jocco: how long have you been using it? [07:24] through much hard experience, i've learned that the only thing that works well with that gfx card is xvesa [07:24] 20 minuets [07:24] no [07:24] sunrex: first you ought to fix this. tell me the output from that command [07:24] the only xserver, rather [07:24] jocco: lol kk [07:24] sunrex: don't make the window terribly large [07:24] yea, I cant get any 32 bit apps to work [07:24] sunrex: witohut glx accel, it takes video players a lot to draw on the screen. === Hylas [~Hylas@dialup-193.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] Danar:it says command not found [07:25] jocco: blender is really, really complex and can do a lot more than it appears but i haven't found any REALLY good documentation for it yet [07:25] yeah i used mandrake first, then tried redhat.. didnt like it at all, switched back to mandrake.. tried fedora, stuck to fedora for a while, tried debian unstable.. didnt like my gfx card.. went back to fedora, tried ubuntu and now im never going back [07:25] bluefoxicy: were do i get it [07:25] jocco: yea... i think i'm just goin to switch to x86 architecture right now.... [07:25] sunrex: from your video card drivers? :P [07:25] sunrex: you ran exactly this: lsof | grep -i mnt [07:25] ? [07:25] but i still want to try freebsd again [07:25] just the official stuff... used it for a few months at one job where the boss wanted me to make 3D looking webpage layouts [07:25] Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~$ lsof | grep -i mnt [07:25] tyler@Darkworks:~$ [07:26] ok, wow, I found a new repo, misc [07:26] Lufusol yea, I have been useing it science version 1.75 [07:26] weird [07:26] Danar: didint do anything =/ [07:26] wooooooooo!!!!! [07:26] sunrex: arg. you mislead me [07:26] bluefoxicy:so were do i get the thing.. [07:26] oh geez... that's not good [07:26] MidNightRaVeN there is some way we install ubuntu for the 32bit under the 64bit somehow [07:26] Danar:LOL [07:26] sunrex: no, it did what it was supposed to do. it did not say command not found, it had no output, which usually means success [07:26] ah hah, live the power of emacs macros ;) === youth [~youth@cpe-24-209-241-103.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:26] jocco: what do you mean?? [07:27] i think i just destroyed something... [07:27] Does anyone know how I run wine? [07:27] i'm sorting through Adross's menu.lst removing all the IRC commands === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-174-207.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] somehow we have a 32bit system that we chroot to [07:27] really? =/ [07:27] is there a n64 emulator for linux? [07:27] we install 32bit apps there [07:27] as well as a neogeo emu [07:27] sunrex: what it does is pipe the output from lsof (list open files) to grep, which you told to search for 'mnt'. to see if something was using a mounted drive/partition [07:27] well crap... how do we do that... [07:27] othernoob I think xmame will do n64 [07:27] Danar:....well is somthing? [07:27] sunrex: at the moment you ran it, nothing was using the drives, right? [07:28] othernoob Xmess I mean [07:28] sunrex: apparently not, as there was no output [07:28] Ice and whoever... hmm.. i think redhat 5 or 6 was my first successful linux distro.. then mandrake, then gave up on it when i couldn't get past debian install >_< then years later.. last year.. tried mandrake 10, and fedora core 2, and settled on suse 9 [07:28] there we are, all the IRC is out of it [07:28] Danar:nope...unless a CD that wont eject is called running =P [07:28] jocco it does have a promissing name ;) thanks [07:28] now running overclockix and ubuntu [07:28] welll peeps... i just totally broke ubuntu lol [07:28] sunrex: what's mount say? [07:28] MidNightRaVeN: goo job! [07:28] MidNightRaVeN: congrats [07:28] =D [07:28] both debian based.. finally i graduated to debian.. still a total noob though :) [07:28] ..anyone? :/ [07:28] lol you guys should help me fix it ;-) [07:28] Danar: Audio Disk [07:29] Lufusol: why waste your CPU on stuff like Folding@Home, when you can use Progress Quest? ;) [07:29] youth: run 'wine program.exe' in a terminal [07:29] Danar: dont know why i even put it in i got no sound.. [07:29] it's not too bad... [07:29] thankyou~ [07:29] who cares about helping discover the protein folding configurations and aiding humans [07:29] lol [07:29] I want my character to be BADASS XD [07:29] Razor-X: haha [07:29] youth you have to be in the directory of the app to do it [07:29] Danar:Unable To Eject Media...and when i click eject my HD starts to load with that sound [07:29] sunrex: paste the output of 'mount' in flood === unome [~unome@ool-4351863e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] where is it? 'cause i dont even know where it went [07:29] Danar:what you mean [07:30] oddly enough, the shift of stuff is moving from pastebin to flood [07:30] youth probably .wine/fake_windows/.... [07:30] sunrex: i mean, run mount in a terminal, and paste the output in #flood === rob^_ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] still, I deprecate using #flood only because it's cleaner in pastebin [07:30] can you use the history in Synaptic to reinstall stuff easily? [07:30] Danar:whats the command to do that lol [07:30] youth: you cd to the dir of the program, and run 'wine program.exe' [07:30] surly: 'mount' [07:30] danar; cd to it.? [07:30] errr [07:30] sunrex: ?! mount. for the fifth time: mount [07:30] Razor-X: overclockix is actually a rather nice distro aside from F@H... especially since it automatically discovers and mounts NTFS volumes and I run XP on both my machines here at home [07:31] sunrex: 'mount' [07:31] youth: cd =change directory === mebaran151 [~mebaran15@c-24-126-1-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] youth: cd = the change directory command. you need to run it from the same directory the program is in [07:31] Lufusol: i'm just jokin with ya [07:31] OH LOL [07:31] Razor-X: i know ;) [07:31] I know the guy who makes Overclockix [07:31] oooooh === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port163-96.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] and have met the guy who makes Kanotix [07:31] Danar:done [07:31] too much X [07:31] ughh... well looks like i'm going to be reinstalling ubuntu... [07:31] helped the former add some packages to Overclockix ;) [07:31] Kanotix - another Knoppix variant? === vaiux [~r00t@pool-70-104-187-19.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] Lufusol: it's one with a blazing-fast kernel [07:32] Lufusol sort of [07:32] sunrex: woops. again, i wasn't in #flood [07:32] I personally like xxx [07:32] ,, [07:32] does anyone have a suggestion if i should use x86 or x86_64???? [07:32] LOL === rob^_ likes mindless chatter [07:32] rob^_: keep your wet dreams to yourself === budish76 [~budish76@222.124.52.244] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] MidNightRaVeN: 64 if you can [07:32] helo [07:32] MidNightRaVeN: that depends on your cpu [07:32] Danar:done [07:32] Danar: kk... [07:32] anyone install antivirus on ubuntu? === rob^_ is now known as rob^ [07:33] budish76: what for? [07:33] budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav [07:33] othernoob: i have 64 but was thinking of just using x86 for ease of use [07:33] clam av confused [07:33] MidNightRaVen: nah go for x86_64 [07:33] need zlibc-devel [07:33] if you got it, flaunt it ;) [07:33] Danar:anything wrong with it? [07:33] 64-bit = goodness [07:33] budish76: clamav is a opensource antivirus prog. in fact, it's the best antivirus prog [07:34] sunrex: nope, but it tells me that your dvd & cd drives aren't mounted [07:34] already download the .gz file [07:34] confused to install [07:34] sunrex: which confirms that they're not being used, and you should have no problem ejecting them [07:34] find rpm package === PTK [foobar@c211-28-174-79.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] Danar:here... === pinko [~pinko@70-59-154-75.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] budish76: you're doing it the hard way [07:34] I'm trying to print something, but all my printer does is blink it's power light.. [07:34] budish76: you could install it via apt [07:34] hmmm [07:34] any address [07:34] for synaptic? [07:34] sunrex: if you can't eject them with the eject command, then stick a pin in the hole [07:35] budish76: sys > admin > synaptic [07:35] for clamav [07:35] Danar:UNABLE TO EJECT MEDIA - Eject: UNABLE TO EJECT LAST ERROR INVALID ARGUMENT [07:35] uh oh level one tech support time.. sir, is your printer plugged in to your computer? sir, is the light on your monitor green or amber? [07:35] budish76: there's little point in having an antivirus for linux, but if you insist, run "sudo apt-get install clamav" or search for clamav in synaptic [07:35] I don't thinkl linux reconizes my printer, it don't list it in the printer setup list [07:35] :P [07:35] sunrex: unmount the cddrive [07:35] othernoob: it's not mounted === ishai_ [~ishai@24-182-1-194.bb-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] Danar: weird [07:36] sunrex: push the eject button on the drives [07:36] question: anyone know how to (successfully) open an ssh server for remote access? [07:36] Danar:did...doesnt work.. [07:36] goodbye peeps for a short bit... going to reinstall ubuntu!! w00t w00t!! === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === ishai_ is now known as ColonelKernel [07:36] Danar:im going to restart brb [07:36] pinko: you don't have to do anything aside from install the openssh-server package === Danar sighs [07:36] Danar: there's little point having antivirus to protect linux boxes. but sometimes, you want your linux box protecting windows ones (eg: mail server that filters bad attachments) === admin0 [~admin0@202.161.146.209] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] pinko: if you have a "firewall" between you and the world, you'd of course need to configure that, too [07:36] grphx: www.linuxprinting.org for your printing needs :) [07:36] hyphenated: that's what i said... [07:37] hyphenated: almost exactly, only with less words [07:37] bob2: firewall is not the problem, though I'm trying to make it work with a forwarded port [07:37] pinko: then it is the problem [07:37] Danar: I guess I misread. I thought you were implying clamav was a waste of time installing :-) [07:38] hyphenated: i was. but i also said budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav [07:38] the problem is i already install by converting rpm using alien [07:38] but clamav cannot run === seth_k is away: sleep [07:38] and i uninstall it [07:38] bob2: I think you're right. any advice? === trey_ [~trey@ip24-251-109-39.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] budish76: so uninstall it, then install it from synaptic [07:38] whoops, missed that bit, Danar === Lufusol yawns. [07:38] Bedways is rightways, now [07:38] hyphenated: np [07:38] how to find the installation on internet using synaptic [07:38] pinko: assuming it's a consumer "router" thing, none other than reading the manual to find out how to forward connections [07:38] later folks [07:38] budish76: you install clamav using alien? [07:39] find rpm package and install using alien [07:39] bob2! === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] but not work [07:39] budish76: click the search button in synaptic. [07:39] budish76: that's sick, just install clamav from ubuntu. wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto. [07:39] whiprush! [07:39] fridge me! [07:39] budish76: in synaptic, click the clamav package, right-click on it, and choose complete removal. click apply [07:39] Danar: well///that went well...and i got my cd out [07:39] then type in clamav [07:39] budish76: then reinstall it with synaptic [07:40] bob2: hmm, I need to nail down Mr. Dub and discuss. === adwait [~adwait@59.182.8.121] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] Time is catching up to us. [07:40] the installation source should be anywhere in internet [07:40] Danar:what do i use so i can make my DVD a big screen> === hondje nominates bob2 to be the patron saint of patience [07:40] anyone has clear address [07:40] whiprush: the elusive Mr Dub. a nailgun might help. [07:40] i'm little confused using synaptic [07:40] When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this? [07:40] budish76: dude, use synaptic. you're only digging your hole here deeper. [07:40] bob2: I have the port opened by my gateway, verified that it's open through scan.sygate.com [07:41] anyone know where I can get the kernel module for lufsmount to mount ftp servers? [07:41] pinko: that site sounds useless [07:41] Danar: ? [07:41] bob2: I was thinking more along the lines of an iron maiden, but yeah .... [07:41] pinko: can you ssh to your external ip from elsewere on the internet or not? [07:41] bob2: nope. so far, I can only do it from within the network [07:42] pinko: then the router is still misconfigured [07:42] pinko: I assume this is the ip you're on irc from? [07:42] bob2: yes [07:42] pinko: it works fine [07:42] bob2: do you think that i can install rpm that i already download for other distro via synaptic? [07:42] Danar: WTF MY DVD EVEN WHEN SMALL FREEZES [07:42] budish76: no, that's a terrible idea [07:42] budish76: use alien [07:42] budish76: what type of package? [07:42] budish76: use the ubuntu paclages [07:42] where can I find the pic used on my desktop in my install? === drummer87 [~owen@c211-30-10-48.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === Manny [~Manny@c211-30-128-97.blktn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:44] Danar: U HERE [07:44] sunrex: and was unnecessary, but glad it worked [07:44] sunrex: i suggest you ask someone else for help, and/or search google, check the forums, etc. i should have been asleep hours ago. good luck, and good night [07:44] nite all [07:44] sunrex: please stop using all capitals, it makes you look obnoxious [07:44] sunrex: 'f' should make it fullscreen [07:44] sunrex: what freezes? xine? [07:44] nope [07:44] you? [07:44] Danar: Xine laggs the movie like crazy [07:45] bob2: thank you. I think I can guess what the trouble is, then. [07:45] or need to download from clamav web [07:45] also via synaptic? [07:45] sunrex: yet nothing else plays it, correct? [07:45] budish76: using synaptic [07:45] pshh.. xine never worked for me.. i never use it [07:45] xine works fine [07:45] oh wait i use totem, stupid me [07:45] lol [07:45] and does menus, unlike mplayer [07:45] Danar: the DVDS wont play on anything else [07:45] does it play properly, albeit slowly? [07:45] Danar: somtimes...and somtimes it freezes then starts going...its a 5 sec thing for the normal playback [07:45] hey, how can i make my comp login automatically from the login shell? === visor [~gustavo@red-corp-201.143.1.22.telnor.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] sunrex: you may have a video card driver problem [07:46] but as i said, i should have gone to sleep hours ago... [07:46] IceDC571: rpm for mdk [07:46] drummer87: sys > admin > login screen [07:46] Danar: no...couse if i download a MP3 from the internet realplayer plays just fine [07:47] blah... especially any rpm for mandrake, dont use it [07:47] sunrex: how much ram do you have? might also have a small swap file [07:47] running anything else at the same time? [07:47] Danar: about 350 [07:47] Danar:no [07:47] sunrex: ~350MB RAM? I doubt that :p [07:47] reka, i'm not using gdm though.. just the shell (i want to set up a 2nd box as testing server but have it login and start linuxvnc by just pressing the on button) [07:48] Danar? what i am [07:48] more likely 256 or 512... [07:48] Danar: 350 about...i know [07:48] what size memory modules do you have in there? [07:48] drummer87: i see...not really sure bout that one === whyameye [~whyameye@209-6-158-100.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] Danar: not sure lol =/ [07:49] bah [07:49] sunrex: is it 384? [07:49] I forgot the command for installing kubuntu [07:49] XD [07:49] Danar: i think [07:49] what is it again? [07:49] sunrex: that would be a 256 + a 128 === DekaPink [~nanami@brndmb02dc1-222-25.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] should be plenty [07:49] reka, thanks anyway, i think i've found something on the forums though :) [07:49] sound stutters on many of my audio/video apps. I didn't really care until tonight because now I discover it stutters in Kino. I have tried OSS and ALSA. === stanford [~stanford@ip68-14-106-246.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] There, my Ubuntu is all nice and set up, and it recognizes my camera... :D [07:49] whyameye: ubuntu uses esd [07:49] drummer87: righto [07:49] Danar:so then whats wrong [07:50] Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes. Help? [07:50] sunrex: not sure. possibly your video card driver. i don't have time to help now. must sleep [07:50] hey folks do we have to umount first a usb drive before disconnecting it gnome 2.10? (usb 1.x) or simly removing it will do it? === gdub [~gdub@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] typing the q here just jogged my memory to something i'd read months ago.. all good now [07:50] g'nite people [07:50] gnite Danar [07:51] Ryhtmbox (music player) doesn't work... unexpectedly closes. Help? [07:51] visor: i guess u better umount it.... [07:51] stanford: type rhythmbox in the terminal, what does it say? [07:51] stanford: closes when? when u try to play/import/start? [07:52] adwait, when i open it lol [07:52] my speakers don't even work...help? [07:52] adwait: i've heard before that if is usb 2.0 and if you dont have anything like a mouse connected than you just unplugg it but yet im not quite sure if it harms the drive if you dont umount it [07:52] brb [07:52] icedc571, Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes. Help? [07:52] sorry === [Chameleon] [~Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] icedc571 wrong copy === qt2 [~qt2@pool-64-222-227-195.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] irk... synaptic like... froze installing nvidia-glx... [07:52] icedc571, bash: rythmbox: command not found [07:53] visor: it cuoldnt harm the drive.....but whts the harm in letting linux know its not there anymore [07:53] stanford: rhythmbox is the spelling [07:53] adwait ok [07:53] my speakers won't play sound...help? [07:53] stanford: its rhythmbox with two h's [07:54] visor: u can add the mounter to the the panel for easily mounting and umounting [07:54] icedc571 GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1680813884 bytes [07:54] aborting... === steven_ [~steven@cpe-24-90-168-39.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] Yuki: no sounds at all? hv u enabled sound server? [07:54] stanford: wow, sounds like a nasty memory error [07:54] adwait: what do you think? [07:54] um, how? XD [07:54] me=linux n00b [07:54] XD === steven_ is now known as balistic22 [07:54] adwait: yeah, indeed there is an option on the menu when you right click on the drive, but i thought it was only needed to unplugg it (as long as you are not using it, say copying files or something) [07:54] does anyone know how to connect ipod to ubuntu [07:55] it plays sounds, but not music and stuff [07:55] icecd571, adwait, I didn't do anything to it, just installed ubuntu [07:55] like, my music files don't work [07:55] balistic22: it should be plug and play.. ive listening to my ipod on ubuntu right now [07:55] even though the player opens tem [07:55] *them [07:55] lol two player issues [07:55] lol [07:55] yeah [07:55] IceDC571, well when i had red hat it worked fine.. but for some reason its not recognizing the ipod is there a plug and play option i have to enable === whyameye [~whyameye@209-6-158-100.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] balistic22: so when you plug in your ipod does it see anything? [07:56] icecd571, adwait, is there anything i can do to fix this memory problem? [07:56] Yuki: what prog are you using for music? [07:56] Machine just crashed, so I got disconnected and don't know if anybody answered me. I am having troubles with stuttering sound in some audio/video apps. Specifically Kino is a problem which I would like to solve. Tried OSS and ALSO. [07:56] Iced571, nope nothing .. not even the " Do not disconnect" all i see is my ipod playing music [07:56] ALSA that is... [07:56] um, whatever it opens by default? [07:57] balisticc22, my ipod works fine, plugandplay [07:57] Yuki: are they mp3s? [07:57] well what do i do... [07:57] <[Chameleon] > Does anybody in here happen to be in Windows and have Adobe Illustrator? I need an .ai file verified. === Whistler [tu10@82-135-244-53.ip.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] i just can't open a rhythm box [07:57] yes... [07:57] <[Chameleon] > Anybody? === buffbikedude [~ben@MTI-8.ppp.nau.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:57] Yuki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] No suggestions on memory error with Rhythm box? I'll check back in the morning [07:58] what can be used to play games? === Zaphod_ is now known as Agrajag [07:58] is there an audio buffer setting somewhere that I can change for OSS and ALSA software? [07:58] windows games [07:58] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: WineX [07:59] <[Chameleon] > it's spotty though [07:59] <[Chameleon] > and not free [07:59] what package do I need to install for a C compiler? [07:59] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: you could try the generic WINE [07:59] would reformatting my ipod work ? [07:59] i doubt it but you can try [07:59] Is there an alternative to Rhythmbox? [08:00] stanford: try Muine [08:00] its very nice [08:00] ok [08:00] Damn, Ubuntu is sexy. [08:00] *almost* gapless playback too [08:00] damn straight [08:00] ubuntu is sexy [08:00] <[Chameleon] > yep [08:00] the default human theme creeps me out tho [08:00] <[Chameleon] > Ubuntu == Sexy [08:00] its like im part of ubuntu [08:00] If it were physically possible to make love to an operating system, I'm tellin' ya. [08:00] ColonelKernel: gcc [08:00] what is Rhythmbox? [08:00] ughh i want to work with my ipod [08:00] When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this? === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-222.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] do I have to log out or anything after I install gcc? === jocco [~jocco@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] balistic22: When I plugged in my ipod it worked instantly. [08:02] is there a backport for AMD64 hoary? I need blender version 2.37 or 2.37a TIA [08:02] ColonelKernel: don't think so [08:02] ColonelKernel, build-essential is the package === DekaPink is now known as littlered [08:02] crimsun, thanks [08:02] I just posted my desktop in the Ubuntu Forum's gallery. :D [08:02] hosler: what it esddsp and where can I get it? Will this help with stuttering audio in software that uses OSS or ALSA? [08:02] evenin crimson..howzit goin :) [08:03] whyameye, hosler : crimsun's the resident sound guru. :) [08:03] yep he is [08:04] crimsun: can you help? I have sound stuttering issues in many audio/video programs. I am especially concerned about Kino right now... [08:04] whyameye: ubuntu uses esound to allow multiple programs use the sound device. But not all programs are compatible with esound, so esddsp allows those programs to use esound even if they are not programed to do so. [08:04] hosler: esound == esd? [08:04] whyameye: you can download it with synaptic. I believe the package is called esound-clients or something like that. [08:04] it's best to avoid esound if at all possible. [08:04] whyameye: esd = esound deamon === MrBiscuit [~chatzilla@1Cust7975.an4.dca16.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] crimsun: what would you recommend as an alternative? [08:05] okay. Yes when I use Kino for example I have to type killall esd in a terminal window first. [08:05] configure: error: zlib needed <-- what do I install to fix this error [08:05] just wait in a few years when M$ charages $700 for an operating system [08:05] hosler, alsa directly [08:05] Anyone have dialup or have any knowledge on PPP? [08:06] welcome back MrBiscuit [08:06] crimsun: so if just disable esound alsa will kick in? [08:06] Gesundheit! [08:06] Oh yes Hi [08:06] Still no luck :-( [08:06] hosler, esound currently is configured on ubuntu to run on top of alsa's oss emulation [08:06] Maybe i should go back to GNOME [08:06] MrBiscuit: what modem do you have? [08:06] hosler, if you disable esound, you have to configure the gnome applications to use alsa directly for their audio sink [08:06] Conexant HSF Modem [08:06] ColonelKernel, apt-get install zlib1g zlib1g-dev most likely [08:06] MrBiscuit: yes, indeed.. go back to gnome [08:07] But KDE is so pretty [08:07] crimsun: why do they use esound at all? [08:07] But it doesn't have Gnometris [08:07] kde is Qt with a huge facelift and major surgeries [08:07] Hmmm.. Decisions Decisions [08:07] go back to gnome.. === Yuki [~Yukiko@d205-206-117-242.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] ColonelKernel, i'm almost positive you have zlib1g installed but you probably are missing the development files from zlib1g-dev === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] hosler, it was the simplest way to support multiple sounds across the variety of sound hardware [08:08] Hmmm.. Linuxant is not free.. what a rip off..Good thing i have a beta driver :-D [08:08] jasoncohen, that would be it - thank you [08:08] crimsun: wait, doesnt alsa do the same thing? === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] Oi... What's that thing you can get for gaim that like, highlights the message windows when you're getting new messages? :3 [08:08] hosler, at the library layer, yes, called dmix. [08:08] OkIce, i mite be back later, to reinstall Ubuntu! [08:08] okay so now I installed esddsp and run it and hear nothing using Kino. [08:09] what's the command to install kubuntu? [08:09] crimsun: so if I dissable esound, will I be able to play a game which uses sound and listen to music at the same time? [08:09] ColonelKernel, zlib1g is an essential library. if you tried to remove it ubuntu would warn you of grave danger ahead :) [08:09] so, zlib1g-dev was a good bet [08:09] hosler, more than likely, yes [08:09] Yuki: kubuntu is a seperate distro :) [08:09] o_o [08:09] Yuki: i take it you mean KDE? [08:09] hosler, certain games are still hard-wired to use oss, however. [08:09] when I try to build or modprobe the lufs modules in my 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel I get "lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info [08:09] " [08:09] yeah [08:09] crimsun: any ideas about stuttering sound with ALSA and OSS? [08:09] whyameye, are you using alsa directly? [08:09] Yuki: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [08:10] kk [08:10] ty [08:10] any ideas how to fix this? === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] crimsun: so how do I prevent esound from starting up? Also, what are some suggestion for programs which only use oss? [08:10] ok...WHY IS MY SOUND NOT RUNNING [08:10] hosler, System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup [08:10] Crimsun: I think I am. I kill esd. Then I choose ALSA in the multimedia systems director. Then I run Kino which has /dev/dsp set as the sound device. [08:11] hosler, make sure that you change System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio sink to ALSA [08:11] hmm...why do so many people have problems with sound? [08:11] sunrex, so, you get no sound at all? [08:11] <[Chameleon] > because ALSA assumed everybody had hardware mixers [08:11] whyameye, ok, that would use ALSA's oss emulation === cajun [~cajun@c-24-99-75-74.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] Jasoncohen:nope...not one sound [08:11] so...I can do stuff while it emerges right? [08:12] <[Chameleon] > and the AC'97 and similar sound hardware is a software mixer. [08:12] [Chameleon] , no, that's an inaccurate statement. [08:12] crimsun: well that was easy. when i think linux i think command line. thanks. [08:12] is hoary still the current testing version? [08:12] crumsun: do I have other options for piping the sound? What I am doing is clearly not working. [08:12] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: what's inaccurate about it? [08:12] cajun, hoary is the current stable release. breezy is the development release [08:12] sorry...that's crimsun === adwait is back [08:12] [Chameleon] , there's absolutely no assumption whatsoever regarding the underlying hardware having multiopen capability. === tiglionabbit [~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] whats Hoary.. [08:12] i just got plain old Ubuntu [08:12] zomg what happened I can't hear sound anymore! [08:12] sunrex: name of the current version of uvuntu === bigfoot1 [~hideseek@FLH1Abb048.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [08:13] *ubuntu [08:13] Adwait:how i find out....lol. [08:13] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: so what's the source of the sound difficulties? [08:13] heh [08:13] reka: how long will it take do you think? [08:13] sunrex, did you try changing your default sink to ALSA or OSS? [08:13] anybody use Plugger instead of gmplayer as their plugin media player in their web browser? [08:13] there is no 'difficulties' i have 0 sound [08:13] [Chameleon] , it's a combination of esound and the sound hardware [08:13] crimsun: is there a place I can change some sort of audio buffer to try to smooth other stuttering? [08:13] Jasoncohen no...i dont think so [08:14] guys guys, I don't know what's changed, but suddenly the only thing I can get sound from is xmame. I can't get sound from beep-media-player, flash, or even games. What could I have done? === Spec_ [~Spec@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] sunrex, system > preferences > multimedia systems selector - default sink for audio is esd. try alsa and test to see if you hear sound === _0kills [~zerokills@12-214-110-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] whyameye: what do you mean by shuttering? [08:14] [Chameleon] , esound was used as an attempt to overcome the multiopen problem because, at the time, ALSA's lib-level dmix solution wasn't quite mature enough [08:14] what do you guys recommend/use for midi files? [08:14] crimsun, what will be used in breezy? [08:14] can someone help me out here? [08:14] jasoncohen, Breezy already uses dmix for up to 9 devices. [08:14] Yuki: well what's the estimated time left? [08:14] Jasoncohen: i cant it says Failed To Construct Test Pipline [08:15] hosler: sorry stuttering. Instead of a smooth stream of sound, the sound is coming out in blips interrupted by silence probably 10x/second. [08:15] is it possible to downgrade to hoary? [08:15] whyameye: sorry :( never had that problem. It either worked or didnt work at all for me. [08:15] oh, I see now XD [08:15] whyameye, does that application have an ALSA output? [08:15] drummer87: from breezy? [08:15] <_0kills> hey guys, im having a brain fart, whats the command to extract from .tgz? [08:15] *sigh* its screwed up =/ [08:15] crimsun, so, a lot of these issues should dissapear in breezy? it just seems like a LOT of users are having sound issues [08:15] yep, from breezy [08:15] _0kills, tar xfz foo.tar.gz [08:15] crimsun: how would I check? [08:15] tiglionabbit, what have you changed recently? [08:16] <_0kills> crimsun, thanks [08:16] reka: will I have to logout anf login again for the changes to take effect? [08:16] drummer87, apt-get doesn't really support downgrades. it's meant to do upgrades [08:16] Where can I specify programs to start up on boot? I want gdesklets deamon to startup on boot. [08:16] crimsun: it just has an area to type in the sound device name [08:16] whyameye, you need to check the application. [08:16] jasoncohen: nothing... the last thing I did that had anything to do with sound was... I did a modprobe command to make rosegarden work [08:16] hosler: u can save current config while logging out, or use rcconf [08:16] and it worked before that? [08:16] so reinstalling is the only/easiest option? [08:16] jasoncohen: yep [08:16] adwait: ok thanks [08:16] Yuki: yes. iirc, when it's done, log out, click on the sessions button and select KDE. [08:16] np [08:16] drummer87, probably- you shouldn't have upgraded to breezy. it's a development release and is currently in a very unstable state [08:16] jasoncohen, a lot of these issues will be moot, yes, but the fact that a lot of ac97 solutions are pure crap can't be masked [08:17] jasoncohen: I followed this guide, and it was working pretty well. I could hear sound mixed between several programs at the same time [08:17] !sound [08:17] well, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 [08:17] that one [08:17] tiglionabbit, well, try to rmmod that module and then try, and if that doesn't work restart [08:17] did you add the module to /etc/moduels or anything? [08:17] I can't remember the module... [08:17] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: OK, next time I answer that question, I'll omit the part about ALSA making an assumption. [08:17] jasoncohen, it's only on a testing box, np reinstalling [08:17] how can i make galeon wrap the tabs onto more than one line, so that I don't have to hit the arrow buttons on the side? [08:17] drummer87, then re-install. it's the easiest solution === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] [Chameleon] , thanks [08:17] oh there we go, modprobe snd_seq [08:17] oh btw [08:17] reka: my screen is off centered, how do I fix that? [08:18] Yuki: use the adjustments on your monitor [08:18] in your monitor menu [08:18] oj [08:18] lol [08:18] *oh [08:18] heh [08:18] :) [08:18] jasoncohen: how do I reverse that modprobe? === Heimdall [~toto@lns-vlq-46-rou-82-252-194-94.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] sunrex, change the default sink - not default source [08:18] tiglionabbit, rmmod [08:18] i m trying to make work my tv remote control === trung [~trung@pmai.user] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] there we go ^^ [08:19] <[Chameleon] > g'night all [08:19] umar: with the pc?? explain plz...... [08:19] jasoncohen: oh... does modprobe only stay until you restart? Seems it "does not exist" so it must not be a permanent change [08:19] hmm, what else... uh, I installed some game things === Zotnix [martin@ool-457891b5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] tiglionabbit, it should only stay until you restart [08:20] or rmmod [08:20] brb [08:20] whyameye, you could alsa use plughw:0 with aoss [08:20] err, also^ use ... === TinyIRC [tinyirc@210.213.86.158] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] does anyone know how to really troubleshoot sound? [08:20] what's up, tiglionabbit? [08:21] is there someone to help me ? I 've made a little mistake with GRUB, I have renamed the file menu.lst, and so now I can't boot ..../ [08:21] crimsun: all of a sudden, I can't hear sound from anything except for xmame [08:21] hello there. anyone knows how to install modem in the Ubuntu? [08:21] Where can I tell guification's configure script where gaim is? :3 [08:21] crimsun: this is even after a full restart. And it didn't happen until just today [08:21] tiglionabbit, not familiar with xmame. Does it use oss natively? [08:21] crimsun: no, it's using alsa [08:21] crimsun: sorry I don't follow. What is plughw:0? I was just Googling and some other people had the problem I had and the suggestion was to shut off power management. Do you know how I do this. This is a laptop... [08:21] but oss for a mixer [08:21] exit === jasoncohen [~jason@pcp0011382713pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:22] hello people [08:22] whyameye, I'm not familiar with your laptop. [08:22] anyone can help me with the modem problem? [08:22] why does that sound howto recommend ALSA over ESD? ESD works fine [08:22] I set beep-media-player to alsa, and selected my media things as alsa too, and everything was fine for quite a while === chatzilla [~chatzilla@ool-4351863e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:22] jasoncohen: not really.. [08:22] whyameye, plughw:0 is a virtual ALSA device that you can tell your program to use _only_ if the program natively supports ALSA. [08:22] yuhoooo!! anyone here knows how to install modem in the UBUNTU? [08:23] jasoncohen, esound has horrible latency issues. Applications like mplayer exacerbate it. [08:23] TinyIRC: if someone knows, they'll reply [08:23] nobody knows grub ? [08:23] crimsun, so where do I get it or how do I invoke it? [08:23] lots of documention out on grub and its grubby ussage :P [08:23] i followed the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 except i kept default sink and source [08:23] ESD/OSS [08:23] TinyIRC: i gues u could just plug it in and thn install drivers for it [08:23] Heimdall, I know grub a little [08:23] what is the problem [08:23] Heimdall: maybe use the install CD in rescue mode, mount the linux partition, and rename it back? [08:23] whyameye, it's built-in. [08:23] Heimdall, you'll need to use a livecd to get o a shell, moutn the partition and rename [08:23] so basically what the ubuntuguide says [08:23] whyameye, your application has to be alsa-native. [08:24] I have renamed menu.lst :/ [08:24] heheh [08:24] I have no live cd ! [08:24] you got problems [08:24] heh [08:24] big uns [08:24] a general question: is it true that compiling a program from source is better? [08:24] hello adwait. i check the Modem in the Drivers list and it is there [08:24] tiglionabbit, can you use beep-media-player with the esound plugin? what's your default sink & source in the multimedia selector? [08:24] tiglionabbit, cat /proc/asound/modules [08:24] bigfoot1, yeah [08:24] How do we compile from sourec anyway? [08:24] you can be more aggressive aobut option [08:24] well first you need some source to compile === Yuki [~Yukiko@d205-206-117-242.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] TinyIRC: well i guess then its installed........u can configure ur dial up connection with pppconf [08:24] and then it is usually just [08:24] the thing is that when i go to the network connection and want to add a dial-up it cannot detects the modem [08:24] ./configure [08:25] bigfoot1: it depends. First off, it's harder, requires you to have dev libs, and often doesn't have an uninstall ability. It also may not be as tailored to your OS as a .deb package [08:25] make && make install [08:25] reka: I installed KDE, but it looks the same...:\ [08:25] you can also use checkinstall [08:25] reka : is there a mean to type the boot command manually ? I don't know what to write but maybe some of you do [08:25] which makes a pkg for you [08:25] tiglionabbit, also, did you do the obvious and check to make sure the volume is up on PCM, master and speaker [08:25] Yuki: you logged into it? [08:25] oh Heimdall do you get a grub prompt? [08:25] I logged out, and logged back in as myself [08:25] mebaran151 yes [08:25] jasoncohen: it's at max for master. How do I check the others? [08:25] ok [08:25] you arent in such bad luck [08:25] <_0kills> Yuki, did you switch which window manager to use by clicking the Session option at start up? [08:26] uh...no...o_o [08:26] tiglionabbit, also, check to see if you have multiple devices. in volume control [08:26] <_0kills> hehe [08:26] mebaran151: i forgot. do you omit make when using checkinstall? [08:26] XD [08:26] ok [08:26] brb [08:26] doesnt matter [08:26] tiglionabbit, double click on the volume control icon near your clock [08:26] checkinstall will figure it out [08:26] I've done it either way [08:26] righto [08:26] it runs make && make install [08:26] ?? [08:26] oh [08:26] jasoncohen: ok, I've turned them all up. Most didn't allow me to turn them down [08:26] what is your root drive [08:26] tiglionabbit, that'll show you master, PCM and pc speaker. you can also check file > change device to see if you have more than one device [08:26] drive one or two [08:26] jasoncohen: but still no sound when i try to test [08:27] root (hd0,0) [08:27] let me copy mine here === Eli [~Eli@201.129.17.210] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] like two lines [08:27] tiglionabbit, paste the output from amixer onto the pastebin in the topic [08:27] tiglionabbit, do you have more than one mixer in file > change device? [08:27] whoa [08:27] zomg sound === keith_ [~keith@pcp04369349pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] I switched the device in the volume thing, and turned up PCM1 and PCM2 and I can hear it now [08:28] TinyIRC: how so? did you try the autodetect? [08:28] heh [08:28] I didn't realize there were so many volume levels hidden in here [08:28] heh, turning up the volume is usually good === hosler [~hosler@AC92B4BB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] Heimdall, root (hd0,0) [08:28] tiglionabbit, which device did you have to change- ALSA or OSS? [08:28] hey all === chol [chol@y.olaglig.nu] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] mebaran151 to do what ? [08:28] crimsun: im getting problems with only one programs being able to use the sound card with alsa. [08:28] at the prompt type [08:28] one should show as an OSS mixer and the other as an ALSA mixer [08:28] jasoncohen: I turned up the OSS device and suddenly I can hear sound from ALSA. Why does that make no sense to me? [08:28] root (hd0,0) assuming your first drive is your linux drive [08:28] hosler, tell the alsa programs to use plug:dmix [08:29] then kernel /vmlinuz [08:29] mebaran151 : linux is /dev/hda3 [08:29] crimsun: where do i do that? [08:29] hosler, (instead of hw:0 or plughw:0, etc.) [08:29] ok === GnomeLord [~gnomelord@astound-69-42-5-114.ca.astound.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:29] hosler, wherever you configure the alsa settings per-application === budish76 [~budish76@222.124.52.244] has left #ubuntu [] [08:29] tiglionabbit, both devices control the sound. i need both set or i get no sound as well [08:29] root (hd0,2) [08:29] anyone got packetnews to work properly yet? [08:29] <_0kills> anyone know if KDE uses esd, if not what does it use? [08:30] crimsun, why are there multiple mixer devices which need to be set to control the same soundcard? [08:30] kernel /vimlinuz root=/dev/hda3 [08:30] initrd /initrd.img [08:30] boot [08:30] I seem to be having programs downloading kernel-source [08:30] just type those four lines [08:30] tiglionabbit, well, is sound working again everywhere? [08:30] jasoncohen: lol, this is hilariously weird. xmame reports that it is using the OSS mixer. However, the volumes on my OSS mixer were way down and inaudible, but I could hear sound from xmame. When I turned up those volumes, I can suddenly hear sound when I hit the test button for ALSA in my multimedia selector [08:30] and you are good to go [08:30] can anyone point me in the right direction? === Yuki [~Yukiko@d205-206-117-242.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:30] sorry [08:30] crimsun: i have no plug:dmix [08:30] yay [08:30] jasoncohen: yes, everywhere [08:30] it worked! [08:30] tyty! [08:30] thank you so much [08:30] kernl /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 [08:30] ColonelKernel: programs or problems? [08:31] tiglionabbit, i have the same issue. both mixers control volume === FLeiXiuS [~fleixius@pcp0010487351pcs.essex01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] tiglionabbit, you probably have two mixers for the same device like i do [08:31] crimsun: only hw:0,0 and hw:0,4 [08:31] How come I can print a test page on my printer, but can't print stuff from Gimp? [08:31] reka, its just me being a ubuntu noob - I dont know what manual to read to get the source code for my currently running kernel [08:32] jasoncohen: my volume control has Intel (alsa mixer) and Cirrus Logic (OSS mixer) === GnomeLord [~gnomelord@astound-69-42-5-114.ca.astound.net] has left #ubuntu ["Later"] [08:32] ColonelKernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [08:32] when I select preferences [08:32] jasoncohen, they're not two mixers. They're two views (oss via alsa's oss emulation and alsa natively) of the same mixer. [08:32] ColonelKernel, apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` === andre [~andre@campus220-108.campus.unimaas.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:32] ColonelKernel, ignore that, heh [08:32] source plz [08:32] jasoncohen: linux-image isn't the source :-P [08:32] ColonelKernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [08:33] headers isnt source either, is it? [08:33] FLeiXiuS, i know- that's why i told him to ignore it [08:33] hosler, do you have an audigy-based sound card? [08:33] ColonelKernel: yes, headers would be your source. [08:33] apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 [08:33] is there a difference b/n linux-headers/linux-source? === digitalfox is now known as digitalfox|sleep [08:33] damn the mebaran solution does not work [08:33] jasoncohen, thanks === bassgoon [~Aaron@mooonastick.student.iastate.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:33] crimsun: i have the intel ich [08:33] where do you put a command in ubuntu to run on startup [08:33] jasoncohen: thank you so much for explaining that to me. I had no idea the meters for the device I hadn't selected mattered too [08:33] reka, yes. The headers are the headers; the source is the source. You use the former to compile kernel modules. [08:34] and the latter? [08:34] how can i make links in other programs point to galeon, rather than firefox? [08:34] jasoncohen: linux-headers are more updated and more precise. Just letting you know. [08:34] FLeiXiuS, I dont think youre right about that [08:34] tiglionabbit, it doesn't really make much sense to me either. Just think of it like having two mixers to control the same device and you need both to be set correctly [08:34] FLeiXiuS, he said he needed source- not headers\ [08:34] they're not the same [08:34] tiglionabbit, the meters really don't matter. Like I said, they're two views of the same mixer. You may be less confused if you use amixer directly. [08:34] bigfoot1: system>preferences>preffered apps [08:34] bigfoot1: sys > prefs > preferred apps === reka shakes fist at adwait [08:34] anyone? [08:35] where do I put a command that I want to run on startup [08:35] jasoncohen: Ah, thought he was compiling to the kernel :-p...I just walked in excuse my ignorance. [08:35] crimsun, not really- one can be set to 0 and the other to 100 [08:35] hosler, paste me (via pastebin in the topic) the output of cat /proc/asound/devices === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp220-145.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] crimsun: what do you mean? [08:35] reka: ?? [08:35] ooh [08:35] crimsun, changing one doesn't change the other. you need to set both === adwait is slow :p [08:35] jasoncohen, that's an application issue that needs a bug filed with gnome-media. [08:35] bassgoon, startup of the system or of gnome? [08:36] adwait: on the contrary...you were too fast. :D [08:36] jasoncohen, it really has -nothing- to do with alsa or esound. [08:36] i didn't say it did [08:36] system [08:36] reka: hehe [08:36] why is it that xmame reports that the only available mixer is OSS? [08:36] I'm a bit of a nub [08:36] (yet makes sound anyway even when OSS is turned down) === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] tiglionabbit, if xmame is a pure oss app, then it will only support the oss opi. [08:36] any skype users here? I have a hard time closing it from my panel. anybody else have this problem? === mameluke [bo@84-72-15-120.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] bassgoon, you can go to system > settings > preferences > sessions and add applications to startup programs [08:37] that'll start with gnome [08:37] tiglionabbit, s/opi/api/ [08:37] eer, but for the system? === _0kills [~zerokills@12-214-110-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] crimsun: it reports that there are several dsp-plugins available, including alsa, but for sound-mixer-plugins it only sees OSS-mixer [08:37] crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/17298 [08:37] bassgoon, create an init script and update-r.cd scriptname defaults [08:37] also chmod +x script [08:38] I'm asking in proxy for my friend...he needs to run a command at boot for networking [08:38] tiglionabbit, if it has the alsa dsp plugin available, did you enable it? Is it even installed if so? [08:38] bassgoon, the script can be very simple. i have one that just does su -c jason /usr/bin/vnc4server for example === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host244-98.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [08:38] crimsun: huh? [08:38] crimsun: how do I do that? [08:38] tiglionabbit, if xmame reports that it can use alsa, did you select alsa? [08:38] bassgoon, but the first line needs "#! /bin/bash" [08:38] tiglionabbit, I've never used xmame. You'll need to read the documentation on how to do that. [08:38] crimsun: yes, it reports that it is using alsa for its dsp-plugin when it starts [08:39] i have already changed the preferred apps-->Web Browser from Firefox to Galeon, but skype still opens up the chat history in Firefox. What's up? [08:39] ah [08:39] hosler, which apps are you using? [08:40] bassgoon, update-rc.d script defaults will add the script as an init script which can be selected in rcconf or boot up manager [08:40] hosler, essentially what you need to do is configure ubuntu to use dmix [08:40] crimsun: im testing with xmms [08:40] crimsun: how do I get alsa-mixer? [08:40] jasoncohen, maybe I'm all wrong, but couldn't I just add the command to /etc/conf.d/local.start [08:40] tiglionabbit, alsamixer comes with ubuntu === ivan_ [~ivan@202-161-3-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] crimsun, should i bother reporting the issue of multiple mixers? i thought it was a common issue === ivan_ is now known as ivan [08:40] crimsun: then why don't the programs I run detect it? [08:40] cause its a pretty simple little thingy [08:41] crimsun: Ok, where do I configure ubuntu to use dmix. I allready looked in the two places you mentioned before. [08:41] m out ppl......bbye [08:41] jasoncohen, that's not an issue, really, because of the presence of snd_mixer_oss [08:41] bassgoon, i don't even have that file [08:41] oh [08:41] bassgoon, init scripts are the recommended method [08:41] hosler, jasoncohen pasted a link above you may find helpful [08:41] what exactly do you want to start? [08:41] perhaps its silly me carrying over from like the 20 differfent distros I've played with [08:41] How hard is it to add "shortcuts" to your desktop? [08:41] hosler, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 [08:41] grphx: easy. Right-click and make a launcher [08:42] is there a way to fix an ext3 partition which gives me this error when i try to fsck: Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... [08:42] jasoncohen, I believe its ok as long as the command returns control to the shell [08:42] grphx: you need to know the terminal command to start the program though [08:42] i have a new bookmarks section in firefox for ubuntu related stuff :) === mebaran151 [~mebaran15@c-24-126-1-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] jasoncohen: ok thanks ill look at it [08:42] I just want to add shortcuts to folders.. [08:42] how do I read gzipped files? [08:42] bassgoon, i prefer this method as you can control whether you want to start the script through rcconf easily [08:42] yea [08:43] and then it's just /etc/init.d/service start [08:43] grphx: oh, in that case, right-click on the folder and select "Make a link" [08:43] if it's not started on boot [08:43] is anyone here familiar with customizing splash screens? in ubuntu there is a orangish brown background behind the ubuntu-splash.png, is it possible to change that background color? === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.88] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] Aerebus: I believe that is your background color, from system -> preferences -> desktop background === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] im trying to read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz === vaultspawn [~btluczek@ip68-106-38-118.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:44] ColonelKernel, you might try unzipping them [08:44] file roller is the easiest way [08:44] tiglionabbit, i dont think it is i have that option set to black and its still orangish brown =/ [08:44] .......How can I install software from the repository???? [08:45] tiglionabbit, you sure? for me it's just black there and my background starting up is brown [08:45] So right click on the folder I want to put on my desktop and then click on what? [08:45] vaultspawn, gksudo synaptic [08:45] related to bassgoon's question: does ubuntu have anything equivilant to rc.local, or do you have to roll your own? [08:45] we have run levels .... === daryl [~daryl@adsl-67-123-248-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === daryl is now known as dllh [08:45] and you can write your own init scripts [08:45] if you really want to [08:45] I dont think there is as much one stop shopping for files [08:45] grphx: make a link [08:45] humbraro, i don't think there's anything like rc.local - you want a generic- drop the crap you want to start on boot but don't feel like making a sys v init file for, right? [08:45] you also have a directory [08:45] Brand spanking new to ubuntu here and have some quick questions. [08:46] Damn it. >_> [08:46] "Make a link" is greyed out [08:46] Guifications has screwed up my gaim and now I can't see the tray icon. [08:46] jasoncohen exactly [08:46] mebaran151: Thanks [08:46] humbraro, i asked that on #debian a few months ago and they just told me to use the method i suggested to bassgoon [08:46] I'm accustomed from FCx to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ start|stop|restart|etc. What's comparable? [08:46] i can make one, but it seems like a kludge === linlin [~linlin@c-67-184-161-83.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:46] humbraro, it's really easy to do and gives you more control as it's a real service [08:46] grphx: then you don't have write access to that directory.. Kinda sucks nautilus behaves that way... uh [08:46] cool [08:47] is ubuntu good for a server, honestly, or would it be better to jsut load debian or centos even [08:47] The folder I'm trying to link is NTSF [08:47] grphx: you can still make a launcher on the desktop with the command "nautilus /the/directory/you/want" === DrSchlauf [~Sven@p54894CE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:47] no mean to get back my menu.lst file from the grub command ????? [08:47] humbraro, just gedit /etc/init.d/service - start with "#! /bin/sh" and then on the next line or the line after put the command you want to run - most likely with a & so it runs without output === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #ubuntu [08:47] humbraro, then update-rc.d service defaults [08:47] chmod +x service [08:48] hmm, sysV init scripts are unfamiliar to me, i'm used to bsd style, where they're just executable in /etc/rc.d [08:48] sorry, chmod +x /etc/init.d/service [08:48] jasoncohen: following this tutorial, do I allow the sound server to start at startup, or do i dissable this option? [08:48] uggghhh,. i'm tired of watching my parents watch London === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu [08:48] jasoncohen: thanks! [08:48] hosler, i have it startup - i like the gnome sounds. the ubuntuguide says not to but it works fine for me and i get multiplexing === Apina [~apina@dsl-aur2-c43.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb <-- has there been any problems with this package? === Aerebus [~nexus@cpe-66-25-33-72.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] jasoncohen: ok [08:49] well is there someone here who can give me a basci grub command to boot ubuntu ?? [08:49] jasoncohen: you're video and audio is mixing? [08:49] hosler, i get gnome sounds while playing rhythbox, amarok, xine, mplayer etc. [08:49] basic* [08:49] Heimdall: the GRB docs are invaluable [08:49] jasoncohen: cool. im gonna reboot now and test [08:49] Razor-X, video and audio mixing? [08:49] what do you mean? [08:49] Razor-X : I don't manage to do something with it [08:50] wiat...why did he reboot? [08:50] jasoncohen: that's what muxing (multiplexing) is === mebaran151 [~mebaran15@c-24-126-1-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:50] mixing audo-and-video streams === pinko [~pinko@70-59-154-75.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] i thought it could be used to refer to having sound from multiple applications simultaneously on a hardware device that doesn't necessarily support it [08:50] the mixing is down on software. that's what ESD does- right? [08:51] that's duplexing ;) === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] ah [08:51] no [08:51] no to what? [08:51] or, am I wrong? [08:51] duplex is the in-out view [08:51] is sourceforge not working? [08:51] jasoncohen is correct to think of multiplexing in the esound context [08:51] oh, ok - good [08:51] Razor-X is also correct to view it as a/v [08:52] i guess i was right that i read that somewhere [08:52] duplex, in the context of sound, is recording and playback [08:52] half-duplex, full-duplex, etc. [08:52] yeah, a full-duplex soundcard can play & record simultaneously [08:52] how do I prevent the gui from loading when I boot up? it doesnt seem to be a runlevel thing [08:52] and that's needed for using audio/video conferencing tools [08:53] ColonelKernel: it generally is, Runlevel 2 is Terminal [08:53] well im in runlevel 2 and gnome is up [08:53] hmmm.... [08:53] can't you just stop gdm from running in rcconf [08:53] then quit gnome manually [08:53] Razor-X, no, im trying to get it not to start when the box boots. [08:54] IceDC571: I said above that I don't care about girls [08:54] if gdm doesn't startup you'll be left at the console [08:54] jasoncohen, that is what I want - to start in console mode and start gnome manually [08:54] ColonelKernel: disable gdm (or your equivalent desktop manager) [08:54] ColonelKernel: are you up to a challenge? [08:54] ColonelKernel, rcconf controls what services are started on boot [08:54] how do I go about doing that? [08:54] live one week in only console mode [08:54] ColonelKernel, just disable gdm [08:55] ColonelKernel, sudo apt-get install rcconf [08:55] Razor-X : kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5.383 === mello6 [~mellowyll@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:55] ColonelKernel, sudo rcconf (uncheck gdm) , OK [08:55] Razor-X : but root ? [08:55] Heimdall: hmmmm? [08:55] Razor-X : my linux is on /dev/hda3 [08:55] uhhhhh? [08:55] jasoncohen, NICE - thanks [08:55] I wasn't helping you before.... :( [08:55] a type root=/dev/hda3 [08:55] oh sorry [08:55] hehe [08:56] I can help though [08:56] lol [08:56] are you aware of my pb ? === babyfire [~babyfire@ip68-108-217-218.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === _0kills [~zerokills@12-214-110-179.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:56] hola [08:56] Razor-X, why are you telling him not to use the console? perhaps he wants to learn or maybe he's running a server in which case X is useless [08:56] just reiterate it for me, and i'll try to help [08:56] popsmibisco [08:56] jasoncohen: I said, use the console for a week only [08:56] renamed the menu.lst file, need to type the grub command to boot and rename it again [08:56] as a challenge ;) [08:56] ColonelKernel, you know you can install a very light ubuntu by typing server at the install prompt [08:56] :) [08:57] i think im in trouble [08:57] ColonelKernel, it'll only install ubuntu-base and not ubuntu-desktop. basically you'll have the basics- no X, gnome etc. [08:57] what does rm -rf/ do [08:57] <_0kills> hey, anyone know how to kill the sound in KDE.. (i.e.. in gnome you type pkill esd) [08:57] babyfire: DONT DO THAT [08:57] now, here's what it does [08:57] some one told me [08:57] and i did [08:57] jasoncohen, ill give that a shot on my server box [08:57] OMFG [08:57] Razor-X : so I 'm trying to boot with my commands....... but i don't grub very much [08:57] babyfire, rm -rf / will wipe out your entire system [08:57] Someone removed his files, eh? [08:57] it's called the noob virus for a reason [08:57] if you run it as an admin [08:58] heh [08:58] babyfire, not a good idea === DekaPink [~nanami@brndmb02dc1-222-25.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] someone needs to add taht to the topic [08:58] Aaaagh. [08:58] babyfire, hopefully he didn't tell you how to use sudo :) [08:58] i souldnt trust people [08:58] Not my gaim keeps freezing at 'sending cookie' when trying to connect to MSN. [08:58] am i going to be ok [08:58] babyfire: no, that's one of the things you should never do [08:58] babyfire: depends. === hule [hule@zeus.penguinhosting.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] did you run it as sudo? [08:58] babyfire, well, when you ran it- what happened? [08:58] if yes then the answer is "..............." [08:58] will sudo -k fix it [08:59] babyfire: if you do that as a root, it will delete all files on your harddrive [08:59] babyfire: if it's running, do it now [08:59] if he did it as root he wouldn't be here now [08:59] no, sudo -k only invalidates the timestamp. It won't undo a sudo rm -rf / [08:59] assuming he's on the same box === qt2 [~qt2@pool-64-222-227-195.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === ```bulldogg [~agoofyguy@ip68-13-59-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:59] babyfire: if you do that as a user and not as a admin, it will delete only your users files [08:59] Razor-X, add 'rm -fr /' to the topic? I would advise against that .. too big probability that someone will run it just because it was 'in the topic'. [08:59] Anyone know what the problem might be? :3 [08:59] lol, nothing will fix a sudo rm -rf / other than a full restore from a backup of / [08:59] <```bulldogg> okay........... I need to find some software to burn dvds. Can anyone help me? [08:59] <```bulldogg> peferably something thats gui interfaced [08:59] babyfire, well...does the system still work? [09:00] DekaPink, the version of Gaim in Hoary? [09:00] don't type in random commands because "someone" said to [09:00] Fikrann: what about *DON'T DO THIS* rm -rf / *DON'T DO THIS* [09:00] ok iit is running [09:00] crimsun: 1.3.1, it says. [09:00] Razor-X, nah. See the thing about Breezy? [09:00] capital -R isnt it? [09:00] babyfire: kill it now [09:00] ```bulldogg, install k3b [09:00] DekaPink, you're using backports [09:00] when i put it in it just gave my command prompt [09:00] crimsun: oh, heh, that's true [09:00] DekaPink, oh, and 1.4.0 is in backports now btw [09:00] hello. i have a hopefully quick question. i just installed Hoary, and I'm trying to get my DLink DWL 520 RevE1 PCI card to work. I can load the hostap driver, but i can't get it to load firmware. the hostap stuff makes it hang, and the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DLinkDWL520E1 don't work. has anyone here gotten it to work? [09:00] jasoncohen: Er... How do I fix it? :D === sunrex [~sunrex@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] Razor-X, Perhaps that would be enough .. but I still there'd be users dumb enough to run it anyway. [09:01] DekaPink, a) apt-get upgrade to upgrade to 1.4.0 [09:01] ok.. [09:01] DekaPink, if that doesn't work (probably won't), go to #gaim [09:01] Fikrann: well, it's their problem === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@gnulinuxer.user] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] is there a code to delete EVERYTHING on the HD [09:01] they're pretty knowledgeable..mostly gaim devs [09:01] or, someone should program tehir bot to intercept that === goli [~sunil@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] i guess i didnt crash [09:01] <```bulldogg> yeah I can do that for the actual burn....and I will use k3b but I need a ripper/decrypter and a compressor [09:01] sunrex, code -... sudo rm -rf / will do that for you [09:01] so im ok [09:01] because that command is much too dangerous for the average user [09:02] thanks [09:02] hule, check if your firmware is in /lib/hotplug/firmware === HappyFool [~HappyFool@tedo-ip-nas-1-p192.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [09:02] babyfire, you might have lost your user files [09:02] ill be back in 3 hours or so [09:02] sunrex: you said that? [09:02] sunrex, don't do that [09:02] why === trey_ is now known as ukato [09:02] i just started ive had ubuntu for 27 hours [09:02] What's some good linux video editing software? [09:02] if you want to delete everything on the HD [09:02] never say that.... EVER [09:02] just reformat the drive [09:02] Jasoncohen: why? [09:02] why not just delete it? [09:02] grphx, mac os x [09:02] btw where is my KDE control center [09:02] because it'll be faster and it's stupid to rm -rf / for no reason [09:02] because the FS structure stays on the HDD [09:03] well, it's unix but still [09:03] no reason..im destroying all files on it and reinstalling [09:03] sunrex, just reformat [09:03] Fikrann, I just copied it in. cross my fingers and reboot? [09:03] lol how.. === didymo [~ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] sunrex, in the installer, there's a choice to keep the data or to reformat [09:03] you guys probably shouldn't be saying that in the channel... === reka [~Unknown@wnpp-p-144-134-167-7.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] choose to reformat [09:03] grphx: maybe you could try cinepaint [09:04] hule, pop the card out and plug it in? [09:04] reformat wipes the FS of much more cleanly, rm leaves more traces [09:04] sunrex, and you probably just need to reformat / but you can keep /home's data [09:04] why are you reinstalling anyways? [09:04] sunrex: just do a mk2fs -j /dev/device_to_format - its faster [09:04] i am going to go drown my self in cable [09:04] peace guys [09:04] exactly [09:04] laters [09:04] humbraro, he's re-installing. the installer will reformat for him [09:04] Fikrann, it's a PCI card. not so convenient to access. i'll just reboot and hope it works [09:04] Razor-X: is it ok to use Debian repos in Ubuntu? [09:04] GNULinuxer, no [09:05] jasoncohen: hmm [09:05] GNULinuxer: no [09:05] GNULinuxer, first of all, 99% of what's in debian is in hoary [09:05] secondly, it won't work because dependencies are different and naming of packages is different [09:05] why would you want to? [09:05] jasoncohen: i though the debian repos *might* have more packages [09:05] if you need something from sid you can use backports or hoary-extras. if you don't, just use ubuntu's repositories [09:06] GNULinuxer, hoary has over 16,000 packages [09:06] jasoncohen: fine ... [09:06] GNULinuxer: you're better off compiling [09:06] if you enable universe you'll have most anything you would want [09:06] do fw_primary and fw_secondary actually work as advertised in /etc/network/interfaces? [09:06] Damn me and my screwing things up. === athlon2 [~athlon@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:06] GNULinuxer, read this - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components [09:07] jasoncohen: anything you'ld want in the "universe" ;) [09:07] GNULinuxer, if you use main, restricted, universe, and multiverse you'll have nearly everything in debian and more [09:07] Razor-X, heh [09:07] jasoncohen: fine, thanks [09:08] hule, ah, sorry, I thought you meant PCIMCIA card. [09:08] with main, restricted, universe, multiverse, backports & hoary-extras you basically get everything in sid + marillat minus a few packages [09:08] heh, i tried recompiling the ubuntu update manager for sid...it didn't work too well [09:08] there were too many missing python 2.4 dependencies [09:10] GNULinuxer, is there something in particular you need that you think ubuntu is missing. you can search all ubuntu packages with ubuntu.packages.com [09:10] sorry - packages.ubuntu.com [09:10] hule, you might want to try rmmodding the driver and modprobing it back instead of reboot. [09:11] Fikrann, heh, it's so hard getting windows users to restart services/ reload modules. they always think they have to reboot === Strife [~mdepalati@69-163-127-58.crlsca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] hey i cant play music in beep [09:12] eskaypey: does music itself work? [09:12] it just doesnt play, no error no nothing [09:12] errr, sound itself [09:12] and it's no wonder why. i was installing updates on my sister's XP box and it wanted me to reboot to complete the install of a tool which assists in upgrades and of course when you install the updates you have to reboot once again and if you don't it pops up with incessant messages telling you to do so === TinyIRC [tinyirc@210.213.89.13] has joined #ubuntu [09:12] ack.. fedora has packages i want for xmms... why isnt ubuntu as active in the package department? [09:12] Fikrann, do i need to tell hotplug to load the firmware, or does it magically figure this stuff out? === IceDC571 cries [09:12] yes i can play it in totem [09:12] IceDC571: it _is_ [09:12] what package do you need? [09:12] hule, it will figure it out. [09:13] eskaypey: try changing the output plugin in preferences [09:13] Razor-X: xmms-aac === action09 yop === Madeye [~Jad@213.186.165.248] has joined #Ubuntu [09:13] eskaypey, right click , choose preferences, plugins > and choose the esound output plugin [09:13] then try again [09:13] IceDC571: just use something like VLC or aac playback [09:13] or compile it in yourself [09:13] eskaypey, the OSS output plugin doesn't work for some people [09:13] jasoncohen: hehe. when i reinstall windows, almost every single app wants you to reboot [09:13] ok i'll try that [09:14] Razor-X: its a nightmare to compile yourself.. you need to set a bunch of config files before you do ./configure [09:14] in 98, if you wanted to change your screen resolution you had to reboot [09:14] IceDC571: I do it quite often [09:14] Anyone knows how to configure Dial-up in the UBUNTU? [09:14] install a screensaver...reboot! [09:14] IceDC571: apt-cache search shows 'xmms-mp4' which apparently plays aac files -- is that what you want? [09:14] TinyIRC: i do [09:14] IceDC571: the terminal i'm in is compiled that way [09:14] HappyFool: there actually is a package in the repository? [09:14] TinyIRC: the only hard bit might be getting your modem working [09:14] plus I compiled in native twin support [09:14] the last time i restarted my sarge box is when i hooked in the wrong S-video cable and couldn't figure out why tv-out wasn't working and the time before that the power went out [09:14] TinyIRC on another distrib, a long time ago.. i used to use 'pppconfig' [09:14] !info xmms-mp4 [09:15] IceDC571: there's a package called 'xmms-mp4' not 'xmms-aac' [09:15] xmms-mp4: (a mp4/aac audio player for xmms), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-0.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 64 kB [09:15] omg [09:15] ooh [09:15] HappyFool: you saved me hours and my life! [09:15] IceDC571: ok [09:15] thank you === Sammi_ [~noclue@12-218-130-96.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] neat. does ubotu know all packages? [09:15] hey Sammi_! [09:15] yes, the problem. the modem is in the device manager but when i used autodect it cannot find [09:15] HappyFool: I don't think so [09:15] i use the PPPconfig then add an entry there. [09:15] HappyFool: all the ones in ubuntu, yes [09:15] TinyIRC: what modem do you have [09:15] bob2: cool :) [09:15] bob2: really? everything? [09:16] after that i issue a command pon [09:16] wow, that must take a few gigs === jinty [~jinty@a130-233-4-89.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:16] what the crap its not in my repository [09:16] lets see whats wrong with my sources file :) [09:16] thanks [09:16] IceDC571: there's a generic sources.list from somewhere [09:16] i think the problem is how i will update the modem. === scorpix [~scorpix@as8-47.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:16] Razor-X: eh? look in /var/lib/apt/lists/ on your machine, that has all the info ubotu needs === doug_ [~doug@c-67-164-66-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:16] !sources [09:16] methinks sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [09:16] Sammi_: so, ah, hey? ^_^ [09:16] (and it's on the order of megs) [09:16] anyone can help me make my modem working? [09:16] universe-sound eh? is that enabled on default? [09:16] bob2: woah, really.... [09:16] IceDC571: look at that link for a /etc/apt/sources.list [09:17] thanks HappyFool [09:17] HappyFool ! :-p === Madpilot [~yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] TinyIRC: what modem do you have? [09:17] hey Heimdall :) [09:17] Heimdall: got ADSL yet? [09:17] HappyFool : yep, 4Mb now.... [09:17] happyFool, i have the internal modem. HS56K [09:17] Hi all [09:17] HappyFool : little pb should be 8 :) [09:17] Heimdall: nice ;) === Mr_Smiley [~smiley@CPE-144-136-186-183.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === jcoxon [~jcoxon@81-178-239-57.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] TinyIRC: it's a winmodem? [09:18] HappyFool : not so nice I can't use it [09:18] morning all === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] one more thing guys [09:18] Heimdall: i meant the 4Mb :P [09:18] HappyFool : yes but 4Mb too I can't use it [09:18] when you minimize windows the border shows when it goes down the tray [09:18] so if the itunes m4p files are encrypted, what is used to decrypt them? [09:18] because I can't boot my OS :-'( [09:18] "Damn you Linus Torvald, why do your children have to be so damn [09:18] prolific?" [09:18] how do i turn that border off === r4ndy [~r4ndy@65.100.132.94] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] afternoon jcoxon [09:18] ;) [09:19] Hello, Razor. [09:19] did my part to spread the virus tonight... had my grandfather run a Hoary LiveCD on his Win98 box... :) [09:19] I downloaded a binary for a program I want to use, how can I install it now? [09:19] Razor, stop stealing my lines. :P [09:19] HappyFool : i've made a mistake, are you familiar with grub ? [09:19] i guess so, it is a Winmodem. [09:19] reka, heh, it's 3 am here :) [09:19] sad part was, the LiveCD was about as fast at starting programs & surfing as the installed Win98.. [09:19] well... I quoted you... -_- [09:19] Madpilot: and he used it? [09:19] sorry Sammi_ [09:20] I quoted, rather === bungopolis [~bungopoli@h-66-166-146-19.snvacaid.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:20] reka: yup. showed him FF & OpenOffice [09:20] i check the CD and the drivers is only for Windows [09:20] grphx: what prog? [09:20] Cinelerra [09:20] What is the base install size for an ubuntu install? [09:20] Madpilot: that's moreso true with Windows ME === Sammi_ smiles. [09:20] reka, where do you live? [09:20] is there a way to take the border outline off when the window goes to tray? [09:20] I'm deciding on a partition scheme... is 10GB enough? [09:20] thats why its not in my repository its already installed.. i am so confused [09:20] TinyIRC: i'm going to assume ubuntu does not come with a driver for it (I may be wrong) -- go to http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/, download scanModem and run it to find out what driver you need [09:20] Sammi_: it gets real chaotic here, as you can tell [09:20] jasoncohen: do a whois. :) === Sammi_ nods. [09:20] Madpilot: nice. [09:20] Heimdall: err, not very, but I know a little bit [09:20] I can handle chaos. [09:20] Razor-X: Ouch. this is a pretty messed up install of 98, too === dphase [~dphase@216.97.255.46] has joined #ubuntu [09:21] Sammi_: heh, well just sit back and watch ^_^ === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:21] reka, ah, australia [09:21] HappyFool : probably more than me anyway.... I've renamed the menu.lst file :-D [09:21] Madpilot: yeah, it's uber-fscked [09:21] hello happyfool, i can see the modem in the device manager but cannot detect in the ppp connection. [09:21] Windows ME, I mean [09:21] reka: It's Cinelerra [09:21] HappyFool : so now I can't boot anymore [09:21] TinyIRC: what's the path to the device? [09:21] Fikrann, ok, so hotplug isn't figuring it out (dmesg doesn't it is figuring stuff out), and when i try to grab an IP, it complains about there not being firmware on the card [09:21] grphx: ah. what format is the file in? [09:21] TinyIRC: i think you may nonetheless need a specific kernel module (aka driver) for your modem [09:22] Um it opened up with file bender [09:22] Razor-X: I'd heard that ME was borked, but that's crazy... [09:22] er file roller === Sammi_ wants to never use ME. [09:22] Madpilot: I never thought ME was bad... till a friend begged me to do something about his ME box [09:22] I had to install a new OS in 10 minutes, lest ME hang [09:22] with no other computer in the house -_- [09:23] TinyIRC: google only returns 1 hit (!) for HS56K, so I can't tell what that means [09:23] reka: I opened it up with file roller [09:23] grphx: which one did you choose here: http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 ? [09:23] Razor-X: moved him to Ubuntu? [09:23] Heimdall: do you have the live cd? [09:23] HappyFool: if that was a real word, you woulda google-whacked [09:23] Heimdall: or even the install cd? [09:23] HappyFool : no [09:23] what path.. i see in the path in the device manager for the ubantu.. [09:23] Madpilot: Knoppix Live CD, actually [09:23] HappyFool : install cd yes [09:23] Cinelerra for i386 [09:23] binaries [09:23] wasn't acquainted with Ubuntu at the time, i'm not sure it existed, actually [09:23] Heimdall: um. ok, i *think* you can get to a terminal with the install cd [09:24] grphx: that's an RPM file [09:24] HappyFool : oh ? [09:24] grphx: convert it to deb using alien: alien [09:24] Razor-X: ah. I'm pretty sure I can get my grandfather over to U. He's been having stupid probs w/ 98 [09:24] i found out the real problem [09:24] the ubuntu live CD is very nice. i never had a live CD other than knoppix work so well [09:24] xmms doesnt think my m4a files are aac files [09:24] grphx: then: dpkg -i to install it [09:24] Madpilot: heh [09:24] granted...things are slooow running of a CD [09:24] i have to rename them to like mp4 or aac [09:24] <```bulldogg> okay how do you get the whole ubuntu installation........ I am trying to compile a package and it tells me I don't have a C compilier === IceDC571 is angry [09:25] i've never played an MP4, and have some AAC encoded video [09:25] I keep most of my CD rips in FLAC [09:25] Razor-X: he's spent a lot of $$$ with various housecall computer ppl. when I hit my Win-knowlege limit... [09:25] Madpilot: how old is he? [09:25] Heimdall: boot the install cd, start the boot (don't actually install !) and press Alt-F2 to get to a different terminal [09:25] mmmm, I love FLAC [09:25] ```bulldogg: get build-essential [09:25] ```bulldogg, sudo apt-get install build-essential [09:25] Razor-X: me too, but i buy from the iTunes music store [09:25] reka: 80 this year [09:25] damn...you beat me to it tiglionabbit! [09:25] Razor-X: FLAC is awesome [09:25] but i typed in the full command so hah :) [09:25] jasoncohen: sorry =P [09:25] IceDC571: yeah === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp237-65.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:25] pshh... all that compiling and configuring for nothing [09:25] HappyFool : what do you mean by 'start the boot' without installing something ? [09:25] but that's the beauty of linux [09:26] IceDC571: the more configuring you do, the more customized everything becomes [09:26] ```bulldogg, build-essential has a C compiler and other assorted tools you'll need to build from source and build deb packages === xinel [~xinel@dsl-220-235-10-243.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] Heimdall: well, you need to boot linux, so you'll need to choose a 'boot option' [09:26] my system is custom-tailored to me [09:26] Heimdall: on the cd [09:26] i'll only make accomodations for a few [09:26] (like you Sammi_ ^_^) [09:26] or other good friends ;0 [09:26] Heimdall: it won't actually install immediately [09:26] other than that, i'll leave you to flounder in Eterm/emacs [09:26] Razor-X: i learned that building from the source is a lot better than installing packages [09:26] Madpilot: wow...just that i don't know any old people who use computers === MidNightRaVeN [~ravencorp@63-225-247-67.dnvr.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] Razor-X: i get to customize about everything that way === Sammi_ blinks. [09:27] IceDC571: good, that's a neccessary lesson [09:27] anyonw know if backports is going to stop making mozilla & mozilla-firefox depend on a backported libgcc1? [09:27] Sammi_: mmmmm? [09:27] Razor-X: then there [09:27] they shouldn't be backporting important libraries [09:27] Razor-X: oops forget that [09:27] That seemed random. [09:27] *sigh* so lol has anyone figured out how i can get my DVD's to play in ubuntu =D =D ?? [09:27] Sammi_: didn't want to loose you in the channel ;) [09:27] jasoncohen: why are you using backports for firefox? The one in hoary is current [09:27] MidNightRaVeN: did you try vlc? [09:27] reka: he's always been a gadget freak. PCs are just another gadget! [09:27] !vlc [09:27] rumour has it, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively. [09:27] !info vlc [09:27] oh i love whorey [09:27] vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB [09:27] Razor: I was reading the Ubuntu page. [09:27] there you go [09:27] How do I tell when alien is done? [09:27] Sammi_: ahhh, I see === freddy_ [~lalal@200.75.134.106] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] grphx: when you see your command prompt again [09:28] if you choose to install, I can walk you through the steps [09:28] damn [09:28] IceDC571: it's spelled "Hoary", actually... :) [09:28] and help getting it all customized [09:28] is messenger down? [09:28] Razor-X: i think that's the last one i have to try.... where can i get the repository address so i can get it? [09:28] easiest way to install azureus on ubuntu...? [09:28] Madpilot: I think that was an _intentional_ misprint [09:28] !sources [09:28] sources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 === adwait [~adwait@59.182.11.138] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] MidNightRaVeN: if you have universe and multiverse added, then it sohuld be fine [09:28] *should [09:28] =/ i searched it and couldn't find anything in synaptic [09:28] Razor-X: heh. not really deserved, unless I'm missing something... [09:29] no, not deserved at all [09:29] hmm.. its not even playing my renamed aac files [09:29] something is fishy [09:29] Razor-X: Hoary just means gray, and has nothing to do with animal prostitution. No matter how hot that may sound [09:29] is messenger down ppl? [09:29] tiglionabbit: XD [09:29] freddy_: what messenger? === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] HappyFool : there is no way to boot something without starting an installation process [09:29] freddy_: which messenger? [09:29] Razor-X: =/ i searched it and couldn't find anything in synaptic [09:29] <```bulldogg> okay to make sure......... you do a ./configure then a make then a make install and then you are done correct? [09:29] the network of microsoft messenger === unome [~unome@ool-4351863e.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] msn messenger [09:29] freddy_: not to me [09:29] yeah [09:29] Jabber, yahoo, MSN, ICQ, AIM, which one? [09:30] (and yes, I use 'em all ;) [09:30] Razor-X: too late ;) [09:30] hmm, it's down for me though [09:30] Damn it damn it damn it. [09:30] I can't get on MSN at all >.< [09:30] yes, messenger is down [09:30] <```bulldogg> just want to make sure I have all the steps [09:30] ```bulldogg: yes, but you might want to use checkinstall instead === Sammi_ loves multi-protocol clients. [09:30] what's the generic sources.list file again? [09:30] thanks :D [09:30] ```bulldogg, yes- that's generally what you have to do [09:30] Razor-X: whats your msn messenger email? i could use another friend since i only have like 2 people who use it [09:30] !sources [09:30] it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [09:30] Heimdall: it'll first ask for partitioning etc info [09:30] Sammi_: then you'll love gAIM (if you don't use it already) or if you want to go CLI, nAIM is nice [09:30] Heimdall: it won't install right away [09:30] HappyFool : maybe I can type the correct command on the gub prompt [09:30] there you are [09:30] I guess it starts to set it up then gives me the command prompt again [09:30] MidNightRaVeN: use that link [09:30] ```bulldogg, there's also a package called checkinstall which will allow you to make deb packages. this way you can keep track of the source packages you install [09:31] Heimdall: no, you can't do filename manipulation from grub [09:31] Razor-X: it'll have the right sources there =D ? [09:31] HappyFool : yes but I can boot no ? === ankur [~ankur@203.212.233.174] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] MidNightRaVeN: yeah [09:31] HappyFool : kernel /boot/vmlinuz etc.... [09:31] Razor-X: kk! [09:31] Heimdall: ah [09:31] ```bulldogg, instead of doing make install you would do checkinstall -D and give the package a name & description. it can then be removed using apt-get remove package and upgraded later by upping the version [09:31] Heimdall: yeah, i guess [09:31] Razor-X: what about centericq? [09:31] tiglionabbit: never used it meself === pix3l [~pix3l@ALille-251-1-24-223.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] sudo apt-get install checkinstall [09:31] i love ubuntu and linux... but sometimes it is a true pain to get going.... it's worth it though lo [09:31] hi [09:32] lol* [09:32] I know of nAIM and pork (CLI clients, I mean{ [09:32] HappyFool could you past me your command to see what it looks like ? [09:32] Razor-X: it's a textmode, yet pretty graphical multiprotocol messenger [09:32] Heimdall: ok, stand by [09:32] thanks [09:32] MidNightRaVeN: gets easier over time [09:32] ```bulldogg, for most purposes ./configure && make && make install is sufficient [09:32] tiglionabbit: curses? [09:32] Hm apparently it's installed but I can't find it [09:32] !info centericq [09:32] centericq: (A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 4.13.0-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1261 kB, Installed size: 3276 kB [09:32] grphx: sudo updatedb [09:32] then locate the file [09:32] Razor-X: uh, probably [09:32] simple azzat [09:32] Razor-X: i know... but i think having a 64 might be making it a little more difficult lol [09:32] Heimdall: ok, there are three commands [09:32] yeah [09:33] MidNightRaVeN: ahhh, I see [09:33] the longer one [09:33] :) [09:33] kernel .... [09:33] grphx: try typing cinerella :) [09:33] Heimdall: ok. you know what your root partition etc is? [09:33] kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash [09:33] it is /dev/hda3 on (hd0,2) [09:33] and alsothis: initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386 [09:33] (hd0,2) == /dev/hda3 [09:34] That worked [09:34] But it wasn't in my Applications dropdown [09:34] ok I have to add vga=777 pci=noacpi remember ? === Tsar_vonHumbug [~Silent@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] <```bulldogg> okay can I message someone in private about copying dvds? [09:34] grphx: doesen't matter === deFrysk [~deFrysk@f213190.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] things don't always get added to the menus [09:34] Heimdall: i remember you had acpi stuff, yeah === Sunrex [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-77-57.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] ```bulldogg: why private? Read restricted, and use k3b [09:34] ok i have a clean install [09:34] Heimdall: i think you can just tack that on the end [09:34] !restricted [09:34] extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [09:34] what do i install now to get sound and video up === mask2323 [~email@adsl-252-181.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] along with music [09:35] sound should already be up [09:35] fr [09:35] Sammi_: you still here? [09:35] HappyFool well for two days now, the acpi stuff does not work, thats the reason I changed the menu.lst file [09:35] How easy is it to alter the layout of the GUI of Ubuntu? [09:35] Sunrex: you should be able to run totem right now and play something in it [09:35] Sammi_: that depends on the GUI of choice, really === Sammi_ is looking at Ubuntu stuff. [09:35] Sunrex: you can do anything [09:35] oops, meant that for sammi [09:35] KDE looks nice, and is configureable without much text editing [09:36] Gnome doesen't look as nice, and is also configureable without much text editing [09:36] Sunrex, if you have backports & extras, it's as easy as sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 totem totem-xine gstreamer-plugins w32codecs libdvdcss2 [09:36] KDE were do i get it [09:36] you have miscellaneous window managers there that server different purposes [09:36] that should about cover it. you'll need multiverse & universe as well [09:36] Sunrex: it's Kubuntu [09:36] jasoncohen: wait, tell him to get the right build of mplayer [09:36] is that better the gnome [09:36] jasoncohen: and he'll have totem already [09:36] Heimdall: hmm [09:36] Heimdall: what changes? [09:36] Sunrex: it's a choice of personal preference [09:36] ah, yeah- use the version for your system [09:36] changed, even [09:36] think i will try enlightenment [09:37] <```bulldogg> hmmm [09:37] Razor-X: er, kubuntu is a distro [09:37] xinel: nice ;) [09:37] i want somthing easy to use [09:37] tiglionabbit, but he'll want totem-xine- it's better than totem-gstreamer [09:37] new install on ma other machine [09:37] jasoncohen: yes [09:37] reka: try, I'm relating it to him using something static [09:37] *true [09:37] sandboxen :P [09:37] also add xine-ui to that list [09:37] HappyFool : I don't know it seems pci=noacpi was removed [09:37] xine-ui is great for DVDs i think [09:37] jasoncohen: why not gxine? [09:37] Heimdall: oh === bigfoot1 [~hideseek@FLH1Abb048.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] HappyFool : since I had the same mistake I had before [09:37] I guess you have to install something for firewire to work with linux? [09:37] Heimdall: yes, you need to add it higher up in menu.lst, so that it is included every time there's a kernel update [09:37] vlc is a nice addition too, and beep-media-player [09:37] whats the easyist lunix OS anyway.. [09:37] grphx: not sure there, this machine only has USB 1.1 ;) === mask2323 [~email@adsl-252-181.37-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu [] [09:37] Sunrex: this one [09:38] Hey guys.. what may cause this: when I run shell script stored in a user mounted disk, I get following error: bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Access denied. The disk has its fstab entry, and its xfs.. [09:38] btw totem wont play DVD [09:38] Sunrex: Ubuntu ;) [09:38] Ubuntu is great for newbs :D [09:38] yea.. [09:38] Sunrex: read restricted [09:38] HappyFool what .? [09:38] !restricted [09:38] Tsar_vonHumbug: and non-n00bs too [09:38] somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [09:38] ? [09:38] because it's non-bloated [09:38] Heimdall: let me know when you've booted and I'll tell you where (kopt= line near the top) [09:38] Sunrex, i prefer the interface on xine-ui- it also has more features [09:38] oki [09:38] just installed gentoo and used it for a few weeks and its just a pain [09:38] jasoncohen: you mean more buttons that do nothing [09:38] how do i install it [09:38] Sunrex, yes it will if you have libdvdcss2 installed [09:38] back to ubuntu [09:38] Razor-X, ;) [09:38] i'll type what you told me [09:38] :) [09:38] well were do i get that? === Razor-X needs to change the Eterm background to Asuka [09:39] tiglionabbit, no, i mean i find it more attractive and it's easier to control menus, subtitles, and advanced settings + i like the keyboard mappings and they're configurable [09:39] errr *cough* I didn't say that..... [09:39] Heimdall: you may need a 'root (hd0,2)' line as well, i'm not sure [09:39] wrong channel >_< [09:39] !info libdvdcss2 [09:39] (needs to remember C-x o) [09:39] ..firefox wont start [09:39] okay, it's in backports [09:39] !backports [09:39] extra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ [09:39] Sunrex: really? why not? (run it from a terminal) [09:39] Razor-X: which vlc should i use?? [09:39] Sunrex, you need to add hoary-extras to get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs- the latter has support for divx/xvid, windows media video, quicktime, realplayer [09:39] someone didnt package xmms-mp4 correctly, i've tested it thoroughly [09:39] MidNightRaVeN: what are the choices? [09:40] vlc does it for most [09:40] *sigh* whats the easyist one...hoary or gnome.. [09:40] plain vlc [09:40] and were do i get Hoarty [09:40] Sunrex, dl an install iso from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror/document_view [09:40] Sunrex, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add this line - "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted". then "sudo apt-get update" [09:40] Sunrex: gnome is a window manager, hoary is a version [09:40] ?.. [09:40] HappyFool : wow good it seems to work ... it is booting [09:40] Sunrex: if you're running the current version of Ubuntu, that's Hoary. [09:40] Sunrex, also make sure all the lines that start with deb have have the # removed [09:40] gnome-vlc, gvlc, kvlc, libvlc0-dev, qvlc, etc. etc. [09:40] Sunrex: you are using hoary and gnome at the same time right now [09:41] MidNightRaVeN: just normal vlc [09:41] the one with Ubuntu for the background? [09:41] kk lol i'm guessing that means the one that says just "vlc" [09:41] Sunrex, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories for an example of what it will look like - minus backports [09:41] Sunrex: Hoary is the name of the version of ubuntu, and Gnome is the name of the desktop environment you're using [09:41] i really hope vlc works... [09:41] HappyFool : good news I'm under gnome ! === Belutz [~Belutz@219.83.23.250] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] Heimdall: good stuff [09:42] Heimdall: ok, rename menu.lst first ;) [09:42] what is Hoary anyway?? like literally? [09:42] Sunrex, you can also do all this graphically with synaptic by going to preferences > repositories and adding a custom source with the line i gave you [09:42] MidNightRaVeN: it means gray [09:42] Heimdall: and near the top, you should see a line like this '#kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro [09:42] you then could select the "show disabled repositories" and enable all the disabled ones [09:42] tiglionabbit: o, in what language? [09:42] and then reload [09:42] "Gray Hedgehog"... === Heimdall_linux [~nico@lns-vlq-46-rou-82-252-194-94.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] Heimdall: add your vga=777 pci=noapci line to that [09:42] http://merriamwebster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoary&x=0&y=0 [09:42] lol [09:42] MidNightRaVeN: english [09:43] HappyFool, I'm here :) [09:43] I had a question === MrScotty [1040@ente.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:43] why arent dpkg double click installable? [09:43] tiglionabbit: lol huh... never heard of it in any of my English classes... [09:43] Heimdall_linux: ah-ha [09:43] Heimdall_linux: you see what i said about kopt? === tiglionabbit can just imagine Dr Robotnik with a screwed up Ubuntu install. "I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!" lol sorry [09:43] yes on this computer [09:43] lol === BasL [~bas@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu [09:43] but it is not in the same room lol [09:44] MidNightRaVeN: ever read Romeo and Juliet? They make a joke about it [09:44] ok [09:44] (Romeo's friends do I mean) [09:44] tiglionabbit: i'll have to reread it cuz i don't remember that in depth [09:44] k [09:44] well you'll notice the hoary part then [09:45] i just read it like two weeks ago too [09:45] is there anyway to turn totem off so it doesn't try and autoplay my dvds? [09:45] So is there no good video editing software for linux? [09:45] "That even from the hoary head unto the witless child" <-- Shakespeare... [09:45] hmm... i dont think apt-file is working for me, how do i use it? [09:45] 'Juliet your love hath made me effemiate. And in my temper softened valor' steel" [09:45] google rocks, so does inline find [09:45] lol [09:46] Google is god. [09:46] that's the only non-cliched line of Romeo and Juliet I remember by heart ;) [09:46] Sammi_: amen to that [09:46] funny how you put god in undercase ;-) === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has joined #ubuntu [09:46] WTF I CANT OPEN FIREFOX [09:46] dude caps [09:46] Okay, Google is God. [09:46] how do i make cd rom icon to not display on desktop when mounted?? [09:46] ^^ [09:46] lol [09:46] there's more than one god. there's only one Google... [09:46] Sunrex: no caps, please [09:46] Razor-X: sorry [09:46] i do apt-file search blahblah.file and it returns nothing [09:46] Madpilot: XD [09:46] eskaypey: I think you're stuck with it [09:46] HappyFool, kopt line is after a '#' it is a comment no ? === reka [~Unknown@wnpp-p-144-134-167-7.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] IceDC571: apt-cache search [09:47] oh [09:47] or, start using aptitude ;) [09:47] ahhh thats not good [09:47] any other thoughts?? [09:47] yes, i always use aptitude over apt-get [09:47] so lol anyone know how to turn autoplay off in totem? i couldn't find it in preferences... [09:47] then aptitude search [09:47] eskaypey, gnome-control-center [09:47] Sunrex, do a ctrl alt backspace it will restart gnome and try to use firefox again [09:47] eskaypey: Control Panel/Desktop/Behaviour/Device Icons [09:47] eskaypey, removable drives and media [09:47] eskaypey: disable Show device icons: [09:48] eskaypey, check the settings [09:48] MidNightRaVeN: you really don't like VLC do you? ;) [09:48] eskaypey: or whichever individual ones you don't want [09:48] Heimdall_linux: yeah [09:48] anyone know of a file splitter/joiner for linux? [09:48] Heimdall_linux: i think update-grub uses it, not grub [09:48] so it won't change anything if I put pci=noacpi [09:48] MidNightRaVeN: it's somewhere in Control Panel too, but I can't remember where [09:48] ah oki [09:48] Razor-X: lol i haven't got to try it yet cuz i wanna disable Totem first =D i just don't know how to... [09:48] eskaypey, or dont put a cd in your drive [09:48] reka: HJSplit, IIRC [09:48] Razor-X: are you a vlc developer? :) [09:48] MidNightRaVeN: you don't have to [09:49] gawd i love my kvm switch [09:49] MidNightRaVeN: disable totem? What? [09:49] Razor-X, =/ i dont? [09:49] The_Vox: no, a friend of the developer's friend XD [09:49] HappyFool, do you meant that because of a kernel update I had my grub file modified ? [09:49] Heimdall_linux: yip [09:49] MidNightRaVeN: of course not [09:49] Razor-X: lol! figures :) [09:49] Heimdall_linux: it needed to point at the new kernel image [09:49] and it didn't write pci=noacpi [09:49] Razor-X: yeah, i think it's w32 only [09:49] tiglionabbit: cuz when i put a DVD in... it stalls Totem === tyler [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:49] Heimdall_linux: exactly [09:49] makes me very angry inside [09:49] The_Vox: where the hell is Control Panel [09:49] *twitches* [09:49] MidNightRaVeN: wait... you men when you put a dvd in, it launches totem? [09:49] is there a good install program that gives me a good ubuntu.. [09:50] eskaypey: uhm...wait...you on kde or gnome? [09:50] tiglionabbit: yea... [09:50] gnome [09:50] and grub-update was used during this update, and should be able to write pci=noaci if I write it juste in the #kopt line [09:50] tyler: its called ubuntu [09:50] :P [09:50] couse no matter what i do whenever i try to install this one its always glitchs [09:50] eskaypey: oops :) What I gave you was for KDE :) I have no clue how to disable that stuff in gnome :) [09:50] MidNightRaVeN: funky... Anyway, you should be able to get the codecs to make totem play your dvds right [09:50] tyler: glitches how? [09:50] MidNightRaVeN: sys > admin > removable [09:50] The_Vox: its k thanks [09:50] eskaypey, what I said earlyer [09:50] tyler: check md5sum on your downloaded ISO? [09:51] first...firefox wont open...second i dont got ANY sound...third a few other things [09:51] eskaypey, gnome-control-center [09:51] deFrysk: ok hang on a sec [09:51] how [09:51] codecs... *ewwww> [09:51] Razor-X: what? [09:51] I remember codecs from my Windows days ;) [09:51] bad bad stuff [09:51] tiglionabbit: i know... i tried and it would still stall.... =/ and xine always said audio_decoder error [09:51] Razor-X: okay, packages, off apt === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu [09:51] Razor-X: ah! found out hjsplit is linux compatible too. thanks [09:51] reka: what does that do? remove totem? [09:51] tyler, have u done an apt-get update => apt-get dist-upgrade ? [09:51] VLC totally avoids codec hell, that's why I like it too [09:51] yea,,,but the good thing with windows is everything ran fine right when u installed it [09:51] reka: see! [09:51] yes i think [09:52] i did the get update [09:52] Razor-X: yeah but.. how do I make vlc play proprietary stuff? [09:52] not dist [09:52] my VLC plays it fine [09:52] deFrysk: what settings do i need to check? [09:52] not sure why yours doesen't [09:52] at least, most stuff [09:52] MidNightRaVeN: you can disable it from starting autmatically when a dvd is inserted [09:52] if not, you can find more plugins for VLC, or compile in the support [09:52] removable drives and media [09:52] Razor-X: is that so? Mine crashes [09:52] deFrysk: i want it to mount just not on desktop [09:52] tyler, is there a red icon on the top right hand side of your gnome desktop? === cedjo [~cedjo@90.63.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] yes [09:53] well, again thx a lot HappyFool :) [09:53] tyler, means u can do some more updates [09:53] might solve ur problems [09:53] HappyFool, you're my linux master ! [09:53] might not === lambert [~lambert@d80-170-58-39.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:53] reka: hmmm =/ where is Removable?? I can't find it in Sys > Admin... [09:53] it wont [09:53] i just reinstalled Ubuntu [09:53] eskaypey, might be tricky [09:53] couse i had 0 sound [09:53] ah i c [09:54] and the DVD playback went fuzzy...like a TV [09:54] well then have u installed the 686 kernel? [09:54] no [09:54] deFrysk: k [09:54] MidNightRaVeN: whoops...sys > prefs [09:54] MidNightRaVeN: System --> Pref [09:54] Heimdall_linux: heh ;) glad to help [09:54] xinel: the 686 kernel is only a speed-boost for i686 machines [09:54] is that any good Xinel? [09:54] HappyFool, well now I gotta buy some ram !!!! [09:54] Razor-X, whats the bet he's got a 686 machine [09:54] :P [09:54] Razor-X: When I try to play some quicktime stuff, VLC crashes and says "Floating point exception" [09:55] HappyFool, my linux takes a LOT of memory, it remains only 5Mo ....... [09:55] reka madpilot: thx! [09:55] tiglionabbit: have you googled the errors? === eskaypey [~eskaypey@147.69.117.163] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:55] Heimdall, don't worry, it's mostly disk cache. === alerim [~alerim@voltaire-102-1-10.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu === Strife [~mdepalati@69-163-127-58.crlsca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] Fikrann: hai again [09:56] er, I meant Heimdall_linux [09:56] i m using postgresql as my database server in ubuntu can someone tell me some interface design language matching Visual Basic [09:56] Belutz, Hello [09:56] do i have to have libdvdcss2 to be able to play dvds? [09:56] tyler, have a read of this mate http://ubuntuguide.org/ [09:56] Fikrann: can i install ubuntu from the livecd ? [09:56] umar: tcl/tk [09:56] Fikrann, ? === space_oddity [silent82@151.80.8.160] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] it should answer/help u with most of ur probs [09:56] err.. it's not visual [09:56] but creates widgets [09:56] umar, Learn Python }:> [09:56] i cant [09:56] Razor-X: I don't see anything useful... [09:57] there really are no visual languages in Linux, visual languages suck [09:57] Xinel: i cant Firefox doesnt start up [09:57] do i have to have libdvdcss2 to be able to play dvds? [09:57] what are visual languages? [09:57] MidNightRaVeN: it helps, go get it [09:57] !backports [09:57] it has been said that backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ [09:57] add a mirror from backports [09:57] awww.... back ports... [09:57] lol [09:57] ah repaired.. [09:57] is there a "Search for Files" function built into Nautilus? If there is, where's it hiding? [09:57] MidNightRaVeN: be sure to comment it out when you're done [09:57] how can i start tcl/tk or python to design interface in ubuntu [09:58] kk =) [09:58] Heimdall_linux, most of the memory used by linux are disk caches, to speed up the system. Unless you have very little memory (as in 64MB) you don't have to worry about having virtually zero ram free. [09:58] r they already installed or i need to install them/. [09:58] ? [09:58] umar: they aren't visual languages [09:58] ahhhhh.... linux.... so comfortable [09:58] tyler, open up a terminal window and type "sudo" then ur password === gm78 [~gm78@S01060004e28f5eac.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:58] you can't use the mouse to make boxes, or anything like that [09:58] MidNightRaVeN: hah [09:58] Visual Basic is a crap language anywho [09:58] Xinel:its fixed now i had to do updates [09:58] tyler, nice === zX [~chepezzi@host250-24.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:59] Razor-X: what exactly defines a "visual language" [09:59] take a look at that webby i posted its very good [09:59] Heimdall_linux, even if you had 10GB of ram, after some time it'd be all used up anyway; linux policy is that unused ram is wasted ram. [09:59] Xinel:were are the screen shots for Hoary? [09:59] Razor-X: I thought it was just the IDE [09:59] tiglionabbit: i'm using his own term, one where you can use the mouse to create programs [09:59] o.o [09:59] Most visual * languages are crap. [09:59] what, like rpgmaker? [09:59] nopes, Visual Basic is actually layed out visually, using the mouse [09:59] wors [09:59] *worse [09:59] even less coding required [09:59] Razor-X: REALLY? zomg [09:59] how to forward root mail to a regular user? [09:59] tyler, there are sometimes screenshots at www.ubuntuforums.org [09:59] you know what linux is as good as? some old school jazz lol [10:00] Fikrann, yes maybe but you know, I have 2*128Mo on my laptop, and I see that it is very slow.... [10:00] tyler, u can also do a google search for some [10:00] Razor-X: ever used LabView? [10:00] HappyFool: nopes [10:00] Razor-X: in that you 'draw' for loops [10:00] HappyFool: odd.... === dantalizing [~dan@cpe-70-117-19-77.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] is the language useful? [10:00] Fikrann, so maybe if I had just a little more i should be much better === stisev [~no@64-121-92-140.c3-0.sfo-ubr1.sfrn-sfo.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] Razor-X: well, it's mostly for connecting systems/signals === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] Razor-X: in which case the drawing paradigm is less strained [10:00] ahhh, I see [10:01] ok guys [10:01] this was a few years ago, they may have improved that aspect [10:01] someone help me with a non-ubuntu issue [10:01] Heimdall_linux, on 256MB you should have no problems running GNOME .. it might be tad little for KDE, though. [10:01] http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PH6VT3-SP [10:01] stisev: what makes you think it's in our contract to do that? [10:01] my programming skills have definitely atrophied, I may pickup Python again... [10:01] tiglionabbit: hear me out =p [10:01] I bought that plug outlet (8) but my plugs aren't fitting. WTF? [10:02] There's these grey barriers inside of the plugs. [10:02] they prevent the plugs from going in [10:02] Vive le Python! [10:02] stisev: pull them out [10:02] I can't/ [10:02] maybe you're supposed to take the grey bits out ;) [10:02] I learned Python late though, my second-to-last language [10:02] stisev: try turning the plugs around so the other prong goes in each slot [10:02] xinel: how? [10:02] tiglionabbit: tried that several times. [10:02] or maybe you're supposed to use special plugs, like in a ups setup === jeroen_ [~jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] over time, most of my languages have left, save QBASIC, because of the sheer programming experience I had wiht it [10:02] HappyFool: o_O [10:02] and all the engines I crafted [10:02] stisev: lol, I thought so [10:02] Fikrann, indeed I have gnome, but it is slow for runnig applications, firefox with x-chat and azureus and mercury [10:02] and a term [10:03] http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=220 === newbie [~newbie@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] and so it is VERY slow then [10:03] there's the apc site [10:03] APCs new SurgeArrest was designed in response to customer requests for additional safety and convenience features. APC introduced plug-activated safety shutter and cord management to deliver increased security and ease of use, while superior power line and data line surge protection prevents damaging surge and spikes from ever reaching your equipment. [10:03] stisev: i don't have a clue really, sorry [10:03] *RPG engines [10:03] whoops [10:03] sorry [10:03] *sigh* should the backport source look like this? "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp" [10:03] just mess with them untill u can pull them out [10:03] Heimdall_linux: how fast is it without azureus? [10:03] "APC introduced plug-activated safety shutter " [10:03] WTF? [10:03] cuz it's not working and i dunno what i'm missing =( [10:03] MidNightRaVeN: no, read their site for mirrors [10:03] Heimdall_linux: what's software is mercury? [10:03] !backports [10:03] from memory, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ [10:03] Heimdall_linux, blame azureus, then. [10:03] tiglionabbit, no no it is not my connexion :) [10:03] MidNightRaVeN, did u get ur nvidia card up and running? [10:03] stisev: can't you go to the place you bought them? Or phone APC? [10:03] /bin/sh: ../libtool: No such file or directory [10:03] grr.. i hate compiling [10:03] any one know about a good file sharing /transfer program with graphical interface [10:03] maybe it is mercury [10:04] IceDC571: XD [10:04] it is a java software [10:04] Heimdall_linux: no, what I mean is, azureus is java crap and it always slugs my computer up [10:04] stisev: Dell - lol @ phoning. === greg [~greg@217-162-9-177.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [10:04] yeah and libtool is installed of course [10:04] ow... [10:04] libtool-dev? [10:04] newbie, limewire is good, u need to have java installed to use it tho [10:04] ah azureus too [10:04] newbie: azureus [10:04] :D [10:04] er HappyFool: lol. I feel really dumb. ;) [10:04] gm78: hey! not really lol cuz i've been doing all sorts of crazy stuff.... you think you can help me get it up or is it pretty simple? [10:04] Razor-X: omg.. stupid mistake, why didnt i think of that? [10:04] tiglionabbit: but it's the only thing that gets nice speed with torrents, for me [10:04] HappyFool: Duhhhhhhhhh..my plugs won't fit! :p === IceDC571 tries it [10:04] newbie: gtk-gnutella [10:04] IceDC571: you'd installed build-essential, at least? Not sure about libtool === tyler [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Belutz is now known as Belutz_newbie_on [10:04] stisev: heh. well, you asked us :P [10:04] Razor-X: tried bittornado? [10:04] well it won't be bad to had memory no ??? :-D [10:04] heeh [10:04] right.. [10:04] tiglionabbit: yeah [10:04] MidNightRaVeN, i should be able to...what happened yesterday, all of the sudden the connection was all weird, i think the problem may have been on my end but im not sure [10:04] gm78: and sorry i just disappeared last night but my DSL went capoot [10:04] can you give me the link to all the extra downloads [10:05] I get 2 k/s for reasons I can't comprehend [10:05] Razor-X: lol there isnt a libtool-dev [10:05] while Azureus gives me a steady 100 [10:05] MidNightRaVeN, oh, never mind then lol [10:05] gm78 xubek tuguibabbut thanx i need to transfer files between to specific pcs though not to search and download [10:05] *110 [10:05] Razor-X: really? Okay, maybe it's just something about java on my computer then, because i seriously can't run azureus. It always screws up [10:05] IceDC571: time to compile a lib XD [10:05] gm78: yea lol it was my crap DSL... sorry [10:05] newbie, what OS' are the systems running [10:05] tiglionabbit: same here [10:05] Razor-X: especially in windows [10:05] I heard the newer version fixed it, there is a fix [10:05] MidNightRaVeN, oh, no prob, my cable connection is pretty bad somedays [10:05] gm78 one linux the other window [10:05] it's RAM, actually, that's why [10:05] i can't boot into my fresh installed upuntu ppc, got a kernel panic; pivo_root: no such file... [10:05] how do i get real player 10? [10:05] ^^^^^ ??? [10:05] Why would you WANT real player? [10:06] lol [10:06] tyler, that site i posted answers that :P [10:06] lol [10:06] newbie, ull want to set up samba, it lets u share the files like u would between two windows pcs [10:06] you don't need realplayer, get totem-xine instead [10:06] stisev: you don't, it's non-free binary-only :/ [10:06] last 2 milestones were very ineffecient [10:06] gm78: do you think i don't have the nvidia card updated that could be why dvds won't play? [10:06] IceDC571: try installing 'libtool' [10:06] ,,*sigh* great that was before i had to restart [10:06] bbl [10:06] HappyFool: for compilation, you need the dev package as well [10:06] gm78: think since i dont* [10:06] yeah its trying to find /bin/libtool but it isnt there, so im thinking of searching an doing a little ln -s hopefully [10:06] MidNightRaVeN, lol, could be lots of things...open a private chat with me again so u can post ur xorg.conf file [10:07] gm78 and i can use it over the internet i used to use ssh but my friend on the windows os do not like it [10:07] Tiglionabbit:were do i get the totem-xine [10:07] tyler: run synaptic, and get it [10:07] !totem-xine [10:07] tiglionabbit: I haven't a clue [10:07] oops [10:07] !info totem-xine [10:07] totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB [10:07] newbie, windows pcs, when u set up a network, use the smb network protocol, samba is that implemented on linux [10:07] is there any handy utility to monitor traffic on my eth0 ? [10:07] ,,but were do i get it,, [10:07] ah, it's universe. You'll need to read the repositories thing [10:07] Razor-X: i think libtool is different [10:08] !repositories [10:08] it has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [10:08] ahah.. ln -s /bin/libtool /usr/bin/libtool :) [10:08] GNULinuxer: iptraf, iftop, ntop ... [10:08] mmm how do you install PHP? [10:08] tyler: does that explain it to you? When you add the proper repositories, synaptic will be able to find the package if you search it [10:08] greg: i just need it to monitor how much data is downloaded over eth0 [10:08] gm78 so i can set one folder on my linux machine to share through samba and my friend can log on to it right === Heimdall_linux is now known as Heimdall_pala [10:08] tyler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary === freddy [~freddy@200.75.134.106] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] so [10:09] !info php4 [10:09] php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB [10:09] GNULinuxer: ifconfig, but the counters tend to overflow quite often [10:09] if i insert a cdrom...i should see it on the desktop automatically...right? [10:09] tyler: that'll get you Apache, MySQL & PHP [10:09] freddy: yep, if there's anything on it [10:09] well, its not working [10:09] greg: it should save history ... [10:09] :( [10:09] its not doing anything [10:10] is Apache 2 easy to install === incubii [~incubii@61.68.52.111] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] tyler: it is thru Synaptic. (or apt-get...) check that URL I just posted === newbie [~newbie@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:11] i mean to install lol [10:11] GNULinuxer: you could combine rrdtool and a little bit of shell scripting [10:11] !synaptic [10:11] [synaptic] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto === Whistler [tu10@82-135-244-53.ip.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu [10:12] newbie yep, thatll work [10:12] tyler: synaptic is a wonderful program that gets software and installs it for you [10:12] !sambar [10:12] greg: I am looking at cacti ... but even after installing it, i don't see any graphs [10:12] I don't know, tyler === gm78 [~gm78@S01060004e28f5eac.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:12] how do i know which makefile i'm making from [10:12] can anybody explain netcat syntax to me? [10:12] IceDC571: specify it to make, there's an option for that [10:13] GNULinux: have you RTFM ? [10:13] IceDC571: make -f themakefile [10:13] !info netcat [10:13] netcat: (TCP/IP swiss army knife), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10-27 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 228 kB === rage [~rage@ppp111-71.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] !samba [10:14] I guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba [10:14] tyler: spelling counts... ;) [10:14] Please forgive my ignorance but does Ubuntu use x.org or XFree86? [10:14] rage: xorg [10:14] Thanks :-) [10:14] rage: nothing to be sorry about dude [10:15] what linux software can i use to take the audio out of a video and mp3 it? === bigfoot1 [~hideseek@FLH1Abb048.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu === netlander [~alex@gate.montebanato.ro] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] omg i got it to make i got it to make i got it to make!!!!!!!!! :) === IceDC571 loves linux again [10:15] amonkey: i would guess mplayer (or mencoder?) [10:15] <```bulldogg> man this thing is pissing me off........... everything I try to install it says it has unresolved deps.. and I try to resolve those and I get more unresolved deps [10:15] to fellow Galeon Users: how can i make a smart bookmark for Ubuntu Forums Search? [10:16] Well, time to give Ubuntu a try then. :-) Wish me luck [10:16] In other words, what should I have in the "Smart URL" text box? [10:16] ```bulldogg: are you using ubuntu, or Red Hat? Set the repositories right, and you wont have problems [10:16] !sources [10:16] hmm... sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@201.240.248.46] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] ```bulldogg: use this sources.list and you shouldn't have any problems [10:16] <```bulldogg> okay can you help me do that real quick tiglionabbit ? [10:17] !Abyss [10:17] tyler: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [10:17] ```bulldogg: sure. Go to applications -> run application and type in "gksudo gedit" to get the editor to run as admin. Then open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with that stuff [10:17] !abyss [10:17] tyler: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [10:17] .. [10:18] tyler: try !info [10:18] !info abyss [10:18] !info [10:18] oh, never mind [10:18] heh [10:18] tyler: ubotu only knows things we put into it [10:18] how do you install Abyss Web Server? [10:18] tyler: like when I say something like [10:18] ubotu pizza is delicious [10:18] tiglionabbit: okay [10:18] !pizza [10:18] extra, extra, read all about it, pizza is delicious [10:18] ubotu forget pizza [10:18] tiglionabbit: i forgot pizza [10:19] fun with bots... :) [10:19] poor bugger has forgotten the taste of pizza *sniffle* [10:19] =p [10:19] :) [10:19] !moo [10:19] I guess moo is apt-get with Super Cow Powers! [10:19] just be careful what you tell ubotu... [10:19] !biff [10:19] Bugger all, i dunno, unome [10:19] lol === s_ander [~sander@de-leeuw.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] is there someone in charge of ubotu? weeding out bad ! entries? [10:20] wow, no questions have been asked for quite a bit. It feels quiet [10:20] Madpilot: well, the admins will clean it every once in a whil [10:20] e === seraphiel [~seraphiel@ti132110a080-5942.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] !bush [10:21] tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? === rage [~rage@ppp111-71.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu [] [10:21] aw [10:21] <```bulldogg> !sources [10:21] rumour has it, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [10:21] yeah, use those sources and you should be peachy [10:21] tiglionabbit: do you use backports hoary-extras? [10:22] HappyFool: I comment it out most of the time, I think [10:22] so anyone here use Abyss Web Server? [10:22] <```bulldogg> I put it in there says it can't find it [10:22] tiglionabbit: right. thanks. guess i'll just live with old marillat w32codecs ;) [10:22] HappyFool: I got w32codecs from backports, yes, as well as libdvdcss2 === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:23] ```bulldogg: too many "it"'s there -- could you be a little more specific ? ;) [10:23] and java and gstreamer0.8-lame === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-121-123.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["wuffie] [10:23] does apache have a control panel? === lambert [~lambert@d80-170-39-228.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] ```bulldogg: okay, so you've completely replaced your sources.list with the thing on that pasteboard, and now which program are you using to download with? [10:24] <```bulldogg> I put that addy in the source list file and it says it can't find it... and errors [10:24] <```bulldogg> ohh okay wait a minute lol [10:24] can't find what? [10:24] tyler: try maybe webmin-apache ? [10:25] to galeon users: how can i make mailto links use the web version of gmail? [10:25] ```bulldogg: are you using apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic? [10:25] ubotu biff is a little program that notifies you with a message that you have mail, but only in virtual terminal. You can turn it off or on any time using biff y or biff n [10:25] unome: okay [10:25] Happyfool: whats webmin-apache? [10:26] unome: I thought biff was just a really bad website designer that turned out to be a usenet joke. Or was that B1FF ? [10:26] tyler: "This module allows webmin (a web-based interface for system administration for Unix) to configure almost all Apache directives." [10:26] !biff [10:26] well, biff is a little program that notifies you with a message that you have mail, but only in virtual terminal. You can turn it off or on any time using biff y or biff n === arjuna [~clientbin@202.95.133.18] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] tiglionabbit: biff used to be stantard loaded with Debian [10:27] and sys v, probably :P [10:27] ubotu magicaltrevor is a wizard that everyone loves because his tricks are so clever [10:27] okay, tiglionabbit [10:27] hallo [10:27] Happyfool:were do i get that === xinud [~xinud@195-144-090-003.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] can anybody explain netcat syntax to me? === housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-160-180.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === dalai [~dalai@vil131.lanworldfinland.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] tiglionabbit: ??? :) [10:27] tyler: from the standard ubuntu repositories [10:27] <```bulldogg> tried synaptic [10:28] ubotu forget magicaltrevor [10:28] i forgot magicaltrevor, tiglionabbit [10:28] Madpilot: what, you've never seen http://weebls-stuff.com ? [10:28] tyler: you'll need to add the 'universe' repository [10:28] ```bulldogg: hit the refresh button on synaptic after you save the file [10:28] !repositories [10:28] extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [10:28] !sources [10:28] methinks sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [10:28] I'm trying to run zynaddsubfx, but i get this message: ERROR: Cannot make a jack client. [10:28] what should i do? [10:29] tyler: go and read those two urls -- they'll tell you how to enable the standard repo's [10:29] tiglionabbit: is that the badger badger badger guy? [10:29] <```bulldogg> okay do I replace that file that I downloaded with the one thats there now? === ColonelKernel [~ishai@24-182-1-194.bb-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] Madpilot: yes [10:30] Madpilot: also known for Kenya, Magical Trevor, and the everyday happenings of Weebl and sometimes Weebl's friend Bob [10:30] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libpng3/libpng12-dev_1.2.8rel-1_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch <-- is there anything I can do about this or do I have to wait for the server to fix this file? [10:30] ColonelKernel: delet the "us" in that repository url === gubrats [~gubrats@cpc3-nthc5-3-0-cust214.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] ColonelKernel: change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list [10:31] thank you both [10:31] ```bulldogg: which file did you download? [10:31] tiglionabbit: heh. my education continues... must not get that d*mned song stuck in my head again... [10:31] how do i add pages to apache.. === dantalizing [~dan@cpe-70-117-19-77.satx.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [10:31] <```bulldogg> the post_38.txt [10:31] tyler, you add pages in the directory. [10:31] can anybody explain netcat syntax to me? [10:32] admin0: but were IS the directory =/ [10:32] admin0: apache2? [10:32] Whistler: what do you want to know? And what are you trying to do? [10:32] /var/www/html ? [10:32] aah [10:32] look for document root in the conf === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:32] <```bulldogg> the post_38.txt HappyFool [10:32] HappyFool i wanna learn how to use netcat i type nc 127.0.0.1:port but it gives me an erros [10:33] HappyFool i wanna learn how to use netcat i type nc 127.0.0.1:port but it gives me an error [10:33] so how should i write? [10:33] Whistler: man netcat [10:33] Whistler: try 'nc 127.0.0.1 port' where port is a number [10:33] Whistler: reading the man page would be a good idea === lambert [~lambert@d80-170-0-112.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === jeroen_ is now known as Hieronymus [10:34] !sources [10:34] from memory, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 [10:34] he means that === hkdev [~hkdev@cm166.delta75.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] ```bulldogg: you can just cut-and-paste the stuff from the pastebin into /etc/apt/sources.list === seraphiel [~seraphiel@ti132110a080-5942.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] ```bulldogg: you are editing that file with gedit, i believe [10:34] hello.. I have a little question about mozilla nightly builds - I had download build:20050708 (Deer Park)- it runs much faster than firefox from Ubuntu. Can somehow install plugins from ubuntu into that browser? [10:34] !sources blah blah testing ? [10:34] No idea, tiglionabbit [10:34] <```bulldogg> okay are you talking the stuff up in the colored window [10:35] ```bulldogg: um. the coloured window in your browser? [10:35] ```bulldogg: get the stuff from the textarea. You don't want the line numbers included === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] <```bulldogg> okay......... so up in that area but don't take the line numbers with? [10:35] anyone using Deer Park? [10:35] ```bulldogg: just copy from the textarea below [10:35]