[12:00] <HappyFool> Aerebus: you can always try that md5 update command
[12:00] <youth> Yay! It works. Thank you all so much~
[12:01] <HappyFool> Aerebus: something has changed your xorg.conf
[12:01] <Aerebus> ok brb
[12:02] <flankk> HappyFool, isn't there at least a sound HOWTO somewhere?
[12:02] <youth> nalioth, you said there are some in the applications menu.. where?
[12:02] <nalioth> youth: look under "internet"
[12:02] <HappyFool> flankk: you can search for 'sound' here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[12:02] <youth> nalioth; is that the "terminal server client"?
[12:03] <nalioth> youth: no it is not
[12:03] <zaki_> what does it mean "backup/restore downloaded repositories cache"
[12:03] <nalioth> youth: do you have universe and multiverse repositorys enabled?
[12:03] <youth> o.o i don't know?
[12:03] <nalioths_dog> zaki_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[12:03] <nalioths_dog> youth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:03] <youth> i seriously just got ubuntu like. yesterday and my friend showed me some stuff but not all this
[12:03] <nalioths_dog> youth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:04] <nalioth> youth: read what the dog sent ya, when you have that done and enabled, come back here and we'll tell ya where to look in the big toy box
[12:04] <flankk> HappyFool, already done.. these are useless because lspci doesn't even show a sound card.  I'm not sure what the card is.. and why wouldn't it be enabled in the kernel? what would you suggest doing?
[12:05] <HappyFool> flankk: i'd suggest trying to find out what the card is, and using google
[12:05] <vladuz976> hey does anybody know how to bind a certain command to a key?
[12:05] <youth> nalioth; ohjoy :3 thanks lol
[12:05] <LinuxJones> flankk, is it disabled in your system's bios ?
[12:06] <HappyFool> vladuz976: maybe System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
[12:06] <HappyFool> flankk: i would've thought lspci would see it, even if no modules were loaded
[12:06] <Danar> is the debian repository compatible with ubuntu?
[12:06] <vladuz976> HappyFool: that only binds keys to certain funktions in there. not to what i want. only does stuff like play vol up and down and i can select keys for that
[12:07] <LinuxJones> Danar, not recommended
[12:07] <HappyFool> vladuz976: sorry, i don't know more than that
[12:07] <Danar> LinuxJones: why not?
[12:07] <vladuz976> HappyFool: ok, thanks anyways
[12:07] <aeolist> Danar, chances are the world will keep spinning even if you install some debs
[12:07] <LinuxJones> Danar, most stuff from Debian is available in the Ubuntu repos
[12:07] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone know why when i start ubuntu my mouse won't work... but when i unplug it and plug it back in, it works?
[12:07] <Danar> LinuxJones: is nvu in there yet?
[12:08] <nalioth> Danar: nvu is availabe from the nvu homepage
[12:08] <youth> nailoth; it says "Use the checkboxes in the first column enable or disable a repository. Universe is now enabled." - but which one am I supposed to do? they're all checked.
[12:08] <Danar> nalioth: easier to apt-get stuff. i'd rather have it in the repository
[12:08] <flankk> HappyFool, well it is integrated, and nothing 'Multimedia' is showing.. nor audio.  Since it is integrated, the bridge is, " Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge."
[12:08] <MidNightRaVeN> lol anyone?
[12:08] <LinuxJones> Danar, nope but you could install the .deb from the Linspire website I would assume
[12:09] <nalioth> youth: universe and multiverse?
[12:09] <MidNightRaVeN> ='(
[12:09] <derek> alright, i've been trying to fix my sound (sound blaster live) all day. i've read every forum and it still does not work, any ideas?
[12:09] <youth> MidNightRaVen; my mouse wouldn't work either :/
[12:09] <nalioth> Danar: at this time, nvu isnt available via repo, it will be in breezy, i believe
[12:09] <MidNightRaVeN> youth: figure out how to fix it?
[12:09] <youth> MidNightRaVen; my mouse with a ball, anyway. i plugged in a ball-less one and it worked lol
[12:09] <nalioth> Danar: the deb from nvu homepage installs just fine
[12:09] <MidNightRaVeN> lol really?
[12:09] <youth> Yeah XD
[12:09] <youth> Go get one without a ball, it might work hahah
[12:09] <MidNightRaVeN> youth: i have a ball mouse right now... so maybe that's the pro
[12:10] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[12:10] <Danar> i'm on debian now. if i switched my sources.list to the ubuntu repository, would i be able to 'upgrade' from debian to ubuntu?
[12:10] <HappyFool> flankk: sorry, no idea. can you maybe lookup your mainboard via google to find out the sound chipset?
[12:10] <MidNightRaVeN> thx =D!!
[12:10] <youth> MidNightRaVen; Maybe. Maybe not though. It just worked for me, that's all I know lol
[12:10] <nalioth> Danar: only if you are running woody
[12:10] <Danar> nalioth: er, testing
[12:10] <MidNightRaVeN> youth: lol i imagine it probably will... it's worth a try eh?
[12:10] <nalioth> Danar: is that sid or etch?
[12:10] <youth> nalioth; universe and multiverse..? i feel so dumb i have no idea what you mean ><
[12:10] <MidNightRaVeN> youth: thx =) I hope it works!
[12:10] <nalioth> youth: watch the dog
[12:10] <HappyFool> flankk: has your sound worked previously? if so, in what OS?
[12:10] <nalioths_dog> youth: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:10] <Aerebus> Happyfool, ok i got it i saw the nvidia loo
[12:11] <nalioths_dog> youth: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:11] <Danar> nalioth: whichever testing is :p
[12:11] <Aerebus> logo*
[12:11] <youth> MidNightRaVen; worth a shot, yah. if it doesn't work, you have a nifty mouse.
[12:11] <HappyFool> Aerebus: yay ;)
[12:11] <nalioth> Danar: probably easier to clean install ubuntu
[12:11] <Aerebus> however i dont think that helped lol
[12:11] <HappyFool> Aerebus: then it's probably working
[12:11] <MidNightRaVeN> youth: i was planning on getting a usb mouse anywho... so maybe i'll just get one early instead ;-)
[12:11] <youth> :3
[12:12] <Danar> nalioth: i'd prefer to be able to keep most of my settings and stuff the way they are without having to go through configurations all over again...
[12:12] <Aerebus> it helped  alittle but see when i hold a mouse button and drag the window around i see jagged edges and it looks nasty, any way to correct that?
[12:12] <youth> I'll try! dog o-o person.. lol
[12:12] <youth> thanks
[12:12] <Danar> my major gripe with ubuntu though is not enough packages in the repository
[12:12] <HappyFool> Aerebus: yeah, don't drag windows around.
[12:12] <nalioth> Danar: well, from woody is the only easy option
[12:12] <HappyFool> Aerebus: sorry, no idea
[12:12] <Aerebus> ?!?! lol
[12:12] <flankk> HappyFool, it has worked it windows previously.
[12:12] <Danar> nalioth: :/ woody isn't up-to-date enough
[12:13] <HappyFool> flankk: if you still have windows installed, boot that and find out what the sound card/chipset is
[12:13] <LinuxJones> Danar, you should enable the universe & multiverse repos for like 11,000 more packages
[12:13] <Danar> LinuxJones: i did.
[12:13] <MidNightRaVeN> do you guys know where i can get lvc from?? i look for it in synaptic but for whatever reason it's not there
[12:13] <nalioth> Danar: understand, but the fact that it is OLD, makes the ubuntu upgrade the easiest
[12:13] <flankk> HappyFool, that's useless. you can find more information in linux.
[12:13] <Danar> LinuxJones: some stuff, like nvu still wasn't there
[12:14] <HappyFool> flankk: eh? it works in windows, right?
[12:14] <HappyFool> flankk: and in Linux it isn't even showing up in lspci
[12:14] <HappyFool> flankk: i guess you could google for each of the pci identifiers
[12:15] <MidNightRaVeN> lol you guys know where I can get lvc?? it doesn't show up on synaptic
[12:15] <The_Vox> Danar: nvu is in one of the repositories
[12:15] <Danar> but if i switched my sources.list to ubuntu and simply upgraded as the versions passed my currently installed ones, would that work?
[12:15] <LinuxJones> Danar, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor
[12:15] <stan3> When i use music player, rythm box "has quit unexpectedly"
[12:15] <flankk> HappyFool, I don't fucking have windows. sheesh.. it can be done in linux. I'll just use kudzu.
[12:15] <Danar> The_Vox: it is? when did that happen? must have been recently
[12:15] <MidNightRaVeN> *sigh*
[12:16] <The_Vox> Danar: no clue when it happened, but:
[12:16] <The_Vox> vox@nimashet:~$ apt-cache search nvu
[12:16] <The_Vox> nvu - Complete Web Authoring System
[12:16] <The_Vox> nvu-dev - developers files for nvu
[12:16] <MidNightRaVeN> <---- no one hears....
[12:16] <QMario> I cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me. Please. :-[
[12:16] <The_Vox> MidNightRaVeN: what is lvc supposed to be?
[12:16] <HappyFool> flankk: *shrug* feel free to take out your frustration on people not paid to help you
[12:16] <youth> I've to go!
[12:16] <MidNightRaVeN> The_Vox: it's a media player that someone suggested to me...
[12:16] <Danar> The_Vox: :) thx
[12:16] <youth> nailoth; thank you so much! and the.. nailoth dog O_o thanks!
[12:16] <nalioth> youth: we'll be here
[12:16] <youth> k :D
[12:16] <LinuxJones> HappyFool, lol good one :)
[12:16] <The_Vox> MidNightRaVeN: uhm...no, what you were suggested is vlc not lvc
[12:16] <youth> good. 'cause. I'm going to need you rofl
[12:17] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: VLC
[12:17] <Lufusol> Odd... I simply redid the installation exactly as I had the first time and this time grub loaded Ubuntu properly on reboot
[12:17] <MidNightRaVeN> The_Vox: o...
[12:17] <MidNightRaVeN> The_Vox: lol
[12:17] <nalioth> Lufusol: well great!
[12:17] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: stands for vido lan client, i think
[12:17] <flankk> HappyFool, you don't get paid for favors.  and i don't need guilt because i didn't bow to your answer.
[12:17] <Freedomzen> Ok I have a question I just tried to upgrade and got a MD5SUM Mismatch is there any way around this
[12:17] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: work well?
[12:17] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yep. one of the best
[12:18] <derek> Have any of you been able to run Hoary with a Sound Blaster Live! sound card???
[12:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: personally i don't like the interface, but it plays pretty much anything
[12:18] <QMario> I cannot see my Ubuntu Samba server in my network. Can anyone help me? Please? :-[
[12:18] <MidNightRaVeN> hmmm =/ can i get it over synaptic?
[12:18] <schasi> kudzu == hardware probing library?
[12:18] <The_Vox> MidNightRaVeN: yes
[12:18] <Lufusol> I also run Debian and XP so let's see if I can make those available options in Grub now that i have atleast one OS to work from
[12:18] <MidNightRaVeN> The_Vox: sweet
[12:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: i use xine when i can. then vlc or mplayer when it doesn't play something
[12:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yes
[12:19] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: it would be under Multimedia right
[12:19] <MidNightRaVeN> ?
[12:19] <LinuxJones> QMario, have you looked at >> www.ubuntuguide.org there is a whole section on getting Samba up and running and there are resources on the wiki
[12:19] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: i find xine easy to use, and it plays pretty much everything once you've installed the codecs from the repo
[12:19] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: repo?
[12:19] <HappyFool> good night *yawn*
[12:19] <The_Vox> Danar: steal the "all codecs" package from the mplayer site and install it in /usr/lib/win32 and you'll stop using vlc and mplayer...except when trying to view corrupted files, mplayer deals better with those
[12:19] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeah. i don't use the categories though. it's easier to just search for what you're looking for, or apt-get it
[12:19] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: repo = short for repository
[12:20] <Danar> The_Vox: hrm. thx
[12:20] <nalioth> The_Vox: i thought those codecs went into /usr/local/lib/codecs
[12:20] <kbrooks> uh
[12:20] <MidNightRaVeN> yea, it wasnt under the category but a search brought up xine
[12:20] <The_Vox> nalioth: I stuck them in /usr/lib/win32 and xine found them
[12:20] <nalioth> The_Vox: hmmm
[12:20] <kbrooks> nalioth, /usr/local is reserved
[12:20] <The_Vox> nalioth: and mplayer found them too
[12:21] <nalioth> kbrooks: yes i know, its for things YOU install
[12:21] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: do you know if it would be gxine?
[12:21] <The_Vox> nalioth: I think the /usr/local/lib/codecs is for when you compile mplayer by hand
[12:21] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: that's the gnome xine interface
[12:21] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: i prefer the regular xine
[12:21] <nalioth> The_Vox: u/l/l/c is recommended on mplayerhq
[12:21] <goldfish> get vlc
[12:21] <goldfish> that rocks
[12:21] <kbrooks> read: by hand
[12:21] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: xine-ui then?
[12:21] <The_Vox> nalioth: right...as I said, it's for when you compile by hand
[12:21] <QMario> Vlc, doesn't play sound though on my system.
[12:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: yes, things you compile
[12:22] <Danar> collect them all :p
[12:22] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeah
[12:22] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: that would be xine User Interface
[12:22] <nalioth> time for a beer
[12:22] <vladuz976> what beer, where?
[12:22] <stan3> how do I change the location for the weather toolbar?
[12:22] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: k, thx =) i tried Totem for some Dvds... and I dunno if it was my computer or totem, but they just wouldn't play so I'm gonna try xine first before going any further
[12:23] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: i find xine is great with DVDs & CDs. it has buttons for that. just click & it plays
[12:23] <sexcopter8000m> hi, another ubuntu prob, when i try to play sound, i get this error message, "Could not open resource for writing." Any ideas?
[12:23] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: does the menus too, IIRC
[12:23] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: do you know how to like rip straight to your drive?
[12:23] <LinuxJones> Stan2, right click it and hit move
[12:24] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: so you can watch anytime ...
[12:24] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeh, there's a bunch of apps for that. try searching
[12:24] <stan3> linuxjones, lol i mean like the city, zip...
[12:24] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: kk =)
[12:24] <p8ntballer100822> hey i was wondering how i could make my apache server a .com adress, could anybody help me
[12:24] <LinuxJones> Stan2, haha
[12:24] <QMario> MidNightRaVen, have you tried installing libdvdcss2?
[12:24] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: call a web host
[12:24] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: handy sites: google.com/linux & www.sf.net
[12:24] <MidNightRaVeN> QMario: dunno what that is...
[12:24] <stan3> linuxjones so do you know?
[12:24] <Danar> QMario: that's for reading them, not ripping them...
[12:24] <p8ntballer100822> you cant do it yourself
[12:25] <p8ntballer100822> ...
[12:25] <p8ntballer100822> from your own computer
[12:25] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: no
[12:25] <LinuxJones> Stan2, right click >> Preferences >> Location tab
[12:25] <p8ntballer100822> cause i already have apache set up
[12:25] <p8ntballer100822> oic
[12:25] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: it's a library that lets your apps decode encrytped dvds
[12:25] <stan3> linuxjones got it thanks
[12:25] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: o... i'm guessing that xine should do that as well?
[12:26] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeah
[12:26] <LinuxJones> Stan2, :)
[12:26] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: actually, i dunno if it uses that, cause i have it too
[12:26] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: might do it on it's own though
[12:26] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: i just got xine installed... so going to try it but how do you do repository stuff?
[12:27] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: uh, what 'repository stuff'?
[12:27] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: well.... you said you can download codecs from the repository?
[12:27] <nalioths_dog> MidNightRaVeN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:27] <Aerebus> whats the gui in ubuntu called? X? or Gnome?
[12:27] <nalioths_dog> MidNightRaVeN: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:27] <nalioth> Aerebus: both
[12:27] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeh, do a search in description & name for codec
[12:27] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: :p
[12:28] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: lol thx =) i think I'm done bothering you for a bit ;-)
[12:28] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: and see the link nalioths_dog posted for adding repositories
[12:28] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: atleast for now ;-)
[12:28] <MidNightRaVeN> kk
[12:28] <Danar> k. np
[12:29] <Razor-X> i've decided to start teaching my sister eacs at 6
[12:30] <Razor-X> that'll be her birthday present, a fresh linux install with GNU Emacs
[12:30] <nalioth> Razor-X: teaching your sisters WHAT?
[12:30] <Razor-X> nalioth: emacs
[12:30] <Fikrann> Hey guys, stupid question: how can one get configured kernel source tree for stock ubuntu kernel?
[12:30] <Razor-X> *emacs
[12:30] <bjron> anyoe here use wxpython?  I have installed it and looks (when I run eg pycrust) like it is linked against gtk and not gtk2, which doesn't look nice.
[12:30] <Danar> Razor-X: lol. i was gonna say "what's eacs? google comes up with german..." :p
[12:30] <nalioth> Razor-X: they're so young! don't ruin em
[12:30] <Razor-X> that way, at age 8, she'll surpass just about half the channel ;)
[12:31] <Fikrann> Razor-X, And die at the age of 30.
[12:31] <Razor-X> Fikrann: doubt that
[12:31] <nalioth> bjron: if you use synaptic, you should find lots of python stuff for gtk2
[12:31] <Razor-X> she'll be a kickass sysadmin
[12:32] <Razor-X> Fikraan: there should be a wiki entry on that
[12:32] <bjron> Fikrann, mb copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 (or whatever) to your kernel source tree
[12:32] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: real quick question, how do i turn it so that Totem doens't start my DVDs up automatically?
[12:33] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: hrm. that's probably a gnome setting. poke around in the menus
[12:33] <Fikrann> bjron, wxpython is linked against gtk2, but it >sometimes< show up with built-in widgets that look similar to old unthemed gtk.
[12:33] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: can't help much as i'm not on either gnome or ubuntu ATM
[12:33] <Razor-X> she'll start Dvoraking at 4, though
[12:33] <bjron> nalioth, as far as I can tell, that's not gonna help wxpython stuff look better;
[12:33] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: o, =) kk
[12:33] <bjron> Fikrann, do you know how to fix that?
[12:33] <Fikrann> bjron, I run into this problem once while playing with Breezy ..
[12:34] <Fikrann> bjron, I removed all of wxPython from python site-packages dir and reinstalled it fresh.
[12:34] <bjron> Fikrann, cause yea, I was reading everywhere that it was linked with gtk2, but then it was definately not following my gtk theme
[12:34] <p8ntballer100822> what is the correct spelling for nautalis...?
[12:34] <bjron> Fikrann, hrm, but I just installed it fresh today!
[12:35] <bjron> actually, a brand new hoary install on this machine too :\
[12:35] <sexcopter8000m> anyone any ideas with my sound problem??
[12:35] <MidNightRaVeN> what kind of sound card do you have?
[12:36] <sexcopter8000m> well it's terratec, but it shows as C-Media
[12:36] <sexcopter8000m> but i think that's just the chipset or something like that
[12:36] <MidNightRaVeN> =/ dunno then....
[12:36] <Danar> can anyone predict any specific problems i might avoid in switching from debian to ubuntu via switching repositories?
[12:37] <Danar> does this mean there's a good chance it might go smoothly?
[12:37] <redtech> ok, I have been very happy with so far with my switch to Ubuntu.  I was spoiled with my email and antispam under windows however.  Is there a good combination in ubuntu, like thunderbird or evolution and spamassassin?
[12:38] <Danar> redtech: what's wrong with those?
[12:38] <bjron> redtech, install thunderbird. . .
[12:38] <redtech> i cant imagine that people are relying on the built in "filtering"
[12:38] <nalioth> Danar: you will have lots of version discrepancies
[12:38] <Danar> nalioth: what do you mean?
[12:38] <Fikrann> c-media works very well in Linux.
[12:38] <nalioth> redtech: yes, certainly
[12:39] <redtech> Danar: nothing wrong.. whats the "proper" combination? How do I configure the two to sleep together?
[12:39] <nalioth> Danar: sarge, sid and etch are too similar to ubuntu for a smooth transition via sources.list swap
[12:39] <sexcopter8000m> Fikrann, do you know much about c-media and linux?
[12:39] <Xyc0> Cool and admin is here
[12:39] <Xyc0> an*
[12:40] <Speedy2> sexcopter8000m: It's supported
[12:40] <Danar> nalioth: what? i would think similarity would ease the switch, not hinder it
[12:40] <Speedy2> sexcopter8000m: You might have to compile a new version of the kernel
[12:40] <nalioth> redtech: you can use caching proxys, virus-sniffing proxys, whatever you want to do
[12:40] <nalioth> Danar: ubuntu has its own pkgs
[12:40] <Fikrann> sexcopter8000m, I've been using c-media 878 based card for quite some time.
[12:40] <Xyc0> What is the name of the project that uses graphics on boot up?
[12:40] <nalioth> Danar: ubuntu and debian pkgs don't mix very well
[12:40] <sexcopter8000m> erk.... i'm not sure if my experience permits me to compile new kernels :s
[12:41] <Danar> nalioth: what's the ubuntu equivalent of testing called?
[12:41] <Xyc0> sexcopter8000m: its not as scary as it sounds
[12:41] <Elsidox> Danar, Breezy
[12:41] <Xyc0> Danar: Breezy
[12:41] <Danar> thx
[12:41] <Elsidox> =)
[12:41] <Xyc0> I win
[12:41] <Xyc0> :D
[12:41] <Elsidox> lol
[12:41] <Danar> lol
[12:41] <Fikrann> Xyc0, you might be interested in fbsplash
[12:41] <Danar> here's a cookie :p
[12:42] <MidNightRaVeN> do you guys know how i can turn Totem in Gnome off so that it doesn't autoplay?
[12:42] <Xyc0> Fikrann: is that the one FC4 uses?
[12:42] <sexcopter8000m> what's the underlying point in it? I'm guessing that when one compiles a kernal on a local machine, it makes one that is compiled around the exact hardware setup, rather than a generic one for all machines... is that a reasonable guess?
[12:42] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: might poke around in totem's settings actually...
[12:42] <Fikrann> Xyc0, no. That's the one Gentoo is using.
[12:42] <TPC> I just installed gpdf, but the default pdf viewer in gnome is still xpdf. I can't find where to change it, so how do I find the menu where I change it?
[12:42] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea... still looking and I'm not finding anything just yet...
[12:43] <nalioth> Danar: i dont think there is one
[12:43] <Danar> nalioth: one what?
[12:43] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: when you compile your own kernel, it only has drivers for your box
[12:43] <Xyc0> .
[12:43] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: reducing the size (and load time) considerably
[12:43] <MidNightRaVeN> lol i fixed it... but it's kinda cheating... guess it'll work for now till i figure out more
[12:43] <nalioth> Danar: 'testing'
[12:44] <Fikrann> TPC, right click on a pdf, select properties, switch to Open with tab, select gpdf on the list.
[12:44] <Danar> nalioth: couple birdies told me it was Breezy...
[12:44] <TPC> Fikrann, ok, thanks
[12:44] <sexcopter8000m> so it's a good thing to do even if you don't have a problem to fix?
[12:44] <serengeti> TPC try looking into Properties of some pdf file, .... oh well Fikrann's been faster :D
[12:44] <Speedy2> sexcopter8000m: In addition, when you compile your own kernel, you don't have to load support for you devices via modules, saves space and time
[12:44] <sexcopter8000m> and i take it there's a plethora of walkthroughs if i look on google?
[12:44] <Speedy2> sexcopter8000m: I do, but it can lead to problems if you mess it up
[12:44] <Danar> hoary is like stable, right?
[12:45] <nalioth> Danar: then that must be it, note the /topic
[12:45] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: if you desire
[12:45] <Danar> nalioth: hrm. what's that about?
[12:45] <nalioth> Danar: yes it's stable
[12:45] <Danar> what's the other one?
[12:45] <nalioth> Danar: as in "dont use breezy"?
[12:45] <Danar> hoary, breezy... ?
[12:45] <sexcopter8000m> well that being the case, i'll do some reading and ask any questions before i embark
[12:45] <sexcopter8000m> but not tonight, i is too sleepy :)
[12:45] <Danar> nalioth: yeh, i see that. i'm asking why
[12:46] <sexcopter8000m> sorry, totally unrelated noob question, what's nautilus?
[12:46] <Danar> !nautilus
[12:46] <ubotu> Danar: I don't know
[12:46] <nalioth> Danar: because breezy is in active development now and is pretty ugly for normal use
[12:46] <Danar> ... no bot?
[12:46] <Danar> ah
[12:46] <aa> bondage.com
[12:46] <nalioth> Danar: its !info nautilus
[12:46] <sexcopter8000m> !info nautilus
[12:46] <serengeti> sexcopter8000m, it's the capt. Nemo's famous submarine :)
[12:46] <Danar> nalioth: ah. thx
[12:46] <ubotu> nautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.0-0ubuntu9 (hoary), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2588 kB
[12:47] <sexcopter8000m> ... oO
[12:47] <bjron> Fikrann, oh, wow, reinstalling wxpython fixed it;  I think installing boa-constructor first was my problem maybe
[12:47] <bjron> Fikrann, thanks for the tip
[12:48] <serengeti> sexcopter8000m, http://www.cshobbies.com/images/nautilus-30%20in.jpg :)
[12:48] <Danar> sexcopter8000m: yer basic file manager
[12:48] <Aerebus> in Ubuntu 5.04, when i goto System > Theme what kind of themes are those? i'm looking at gnome-look.org what section should i be looking at?
[12:48] <Fikrann> bjron, You're welcome .. you might want to try wxGlade, btw, if you're serious about using wxPython.
[12:48] <QMario> How do I see another Ubuntu computer on my network?
[12:48] <bjron> Fikrann, *nod* I might, thank :)
[12:48] <Freedomzen> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtool/libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[12:48] <Freedomzen> any way around that
[12:49] <Speedy2> Freedomzen: Yes, remove the "us." in your /etc/sources.list
[12:49] <Speedy2> Apparently the US servers have some issues with MD5 susms
[12:49] <Speedy2> sums
[12:49] <nalioth> Freedomzen: the repos are wonky today
[12:49] <Freedomzen> thank you
[12:49] <GenericBob> Hi, i was wondering how to install stuff on ubuntu, like XMMS, the RPM doesnt seem to be the way, and when i try ./configure it say i dont have a valid compiler in the path, so i was wondering if it has a nice little plug & play installer like gentoo EMERGE
[12:49] <Freedomzen> thanks all
[12:49] <bjron> GenericBob, apt-get
[12:49] <Danar>  md5sum libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb
[12:49] <Danar> a6caae961c40c760fe782c091c7bfc39  libltdl3_1.5.6-6_amd64.deb
[12:49] <holycow> GenericBob, wtf?
[12:49] <nalioth> Freedomzen: you may edit off the us. prefacing the archive.ubuntu.blah, and be fixed up
[12:49] <Danar> you know what it's supposed to be?
[12:49] <Speedy2> GenericBob:  Try to apt-get install gcc (that should get you the core utils, including binutils)
[12:49] <nalioth> GenericBob: use synaptic
[12:49] <jasoncohen> GenericBob, you use apt-get or synaptic
[12:49] <serengeti> GenericBob system -> administration => synaptic package manager :D
[12:50] <nalioths_dog> GenericBob: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:50] <nalioths_dog> GenericBob: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:50] <nalioth> Speedy2: its 'build-essential'
[12:50] <GenericBob> ok thx all thats the tip i needed :)
[12:50] <nalioth> Speedy2: not 'gcc'
[12:50] <Speedy2> nalioth:  Thanks.  GenericBob:  I guess you need to apt-get install build-essential :)
[12:51] <Speedy2> nalioth:  I ended up doing it via aptittude, and I selected gcc, apologies.
[12:51] <Danar> nalioth: breezy is in active development? isn't there an equivalent to unstable for that?
[12:51] <nalioth> Speedy2: build-essential gets you the whole compilation set
[12:51] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i never received a registration email. what should i do?
[12:51] <Danar> and how come the first version i heard of was 4 or 5? what about 1, 2... ?
[12:51] <nalioth> Danar: i dont think ubuntu follows debians levels of preparedness
[12:52] <nalioth> jasoncohen: did you see any error msgs?
[12:52] <GenericBob> yeah, i think its the minimum :) By the way each time i try to install stuff or install upgrade it prompt for password, ive tried the user password and the root password but both of them exit application with status 1
[12:52] <jasoncohen> nalioth, no- and i know the mail server is working because i signed up for a bugzilla account and received one immediately
[12:52] <Danar> nalioth: that seems to imply it's just starting and hasn't developed that many levels yet, but apparently ubuntu is at version 5 now...
[12:52] <nalioth> Danar: version numbers are year and month warty 4.10 (2004 october), hoary 5.04 (2005, april), etc
[12:52] <serengeti> danar ubuntu's version numbers come from the date when a version is released. year and month
[12:53] <jasoncohen> nalioth, oh, and a backports developer fixed konversation to work with KDE 3.4.0
[12:53] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i can only suggest trying again
[12:53] <Danar> i see
[12:53] <GenericBob> Thats what it say: Child terminated with 1 status
[12:53] <nalioth> jasoncohen: thats good, since some of us are using 3.4.1
[12:53] <GenericBob> Echec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[12:53] <GenericBob> Child terminated with 1 status
[12:53] <Danar> so next will be 5.1?
[12:53] <nalioth> GenericBob: that msg is meaningless
[12:53] <Razor-X> someone terminated me?
[12:53] <serengeti> 5.04 = 2005, april
[12:53] <Razor-X> ;)
[12:53] <jasoncohen> nalioth, well, it'll work with 3.4.0 or higher
[12:54] <nalioth> Danar: next will be breezy badger 5.10
[12:54] <serengeti> danar, add 6 months
[12:54] <Razor-X> ok i'm sorry ;)
[12:54] <Danar> so i was right
[12:54] <GenericBob> nalioth, indeed ill try to reboot to see if its still doing it
[12:54] <jacky^> hi
[12:54] <nalioth> GenericBob: no rebooting
[12:54] <Danar> well, missing a zero. habit
[12:54] <nalioth> GenericBob: this is not windows, where when you sneeze, you reboot
[12:54] <GenericBob> nalioth: then what do you suggest?
[12:55] <nalioth> GenericBob: did your program run?
[12:55] <Danar> speaking of which... i have to reboot :p
[12:55] <GenericBob> nalioth: nope, all application that seem to need password seem to crash after password prompt
[12:55] <MidNightRaVeN> dude... i can't figure out where i should get codecs....
[12:55] <nalioth> GenericBob: open a terminal and type "sudo synaptic"
[12:55] <Razor-X> gah!
[12:56] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: www.mplayerhq.hu
[12:56] <Razor-X> why doesen't (global-set-key "\C-x\C-kl" 'lax-compile) work if M-x lax-compile does :(
[12:56] <jacky^> I get a repeted msg in dmesg: ACPI: Error reading LCD status, where can I disable acpi ?
[12:56] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: but will it go through synaptic... or will i have to do it manually?
[12:57] <ubuntu_> how do i ssh into my other ubuntu box on the network?
[12:57] <GenericBob> nalioth: great it seem that my root password has changed since the installation
[12:57] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: there is some way to use synaptic to get the codecs, but i dont recommend it
[12:57] <Speedy2> ubuntu_:  Is an ssh server installed on your other machine?
[12:57] <Razor-X> GenericBob: there is no root password
[12:57] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:57] <Razor-X> !sudo
[12:57] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:57] <nalioths_dog> GenericBob: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:57] <Speedy2> ubuntu_: "ssh -2 user@server.IP"
[12:57] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk =/
[12:57] <ubuntu_> kk thank you
[12:57] <Speedy2> ubuntu_:  Type that at a command prompt
[12:57] <GenericBob> flegare@you-are-here:~$ sudo synaptic
[12:57] <GenericBob> Password:
[12:57] <GenericBob> flegare is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:58] <Speedy2> Rather, consule
[12:58] <sexcopter8000m> ok, trying to get latest version of Gaim, but the autopackage version on this page seems to be a dead link, anyone got it locally they can send, or know of any mirrors?
[12:58] <ubuntu_> and how do i use live cd to get what i want on my hard drive?
[12:58] <serengeti> it's 1 am here in Poland and I've just started wondering, why am I not asleep? :)
[12:58] <Razor-X> sexcopter8000m: sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:58] <nalioth> serengeti: friday night?
[12:58] <nalioth> brb
[12:58] <Freedomzen> ok I have installed the headers for my kernel and the source... but the nvidia installer still complains about target kernel version is there a workaround?
[12:58] <serengeti> nalioth, yep, but it's already saturday, sadly
[12:59] <Razor-X> Freedomzen: what's the complaint?
[12:59] <Freedomzen>  Unable to determine the target kernel version
[12:59] <sexcopter8000m> well that says i have the latest version.... hmmm
[12:59] <sexcopter8000m> the latest is 1.4.0, but i've got 1.1.4
[12:59] <GenericBob> nalioth: so i gess there is a sudoers file where i need to add my user
[01:00] <Razor-X> hey, you vi bubs out there, make me a powerful vi macro XD
[01:00] <The_Vox> GenericBob: you need to add the user to the wheel group
[01:00] <sexcopter8000m> i think 1.1.4 is the latest that comes as a debian package
[01:00] <GenericBob> nevermind i just read the place where it talk about it :)
[01:00] <Razor-X> Freedomzen: can't you manually feed nvidia the version?
[01:00] <ubuntu_> bdebbian you there?
[01:00] <hosler> Where can I get some good eye candy for gnome?
[01:01] <Razor-X> hosler: first, go shower in syrup
[01:01] <Razor-X> ;)
[01:01] <Freedomzen> Razor-X, not that I know of I thought installing the header files for my kernel would fix that
[01:01] <serengeti> hosler, www.gnomelook.org
[01:01] <Razor-X> that's my reccomendation to all of you that obsessed with eye-candy ;)
[01:01] <hosler> I tried using superkaramba, but the transparency doesnt work.
[01:01] <Freedomzen> hosler, go to www.guistyles.com
[01:01] <Razor-X> Freedomzen: not always
[01:01] <GenericBob> nalioth: well it say to add my user using User & Group but this application have the same problem, it ask for password then fail...
[01:01] <Freedomzen> :(
[01:02] <battlecat> whats the diff between a i586 and an i686 aside from 100
[01:02] <serengeti> hosler if you want shadows and this kind of stuff, grab xcompmgr from synaptic and add some magic lines to your xorg.conf... and here you go
[01:02] <Razor-X> that's because superkaramba is a KDE application, and so I doubt it can support Gnome transparency
[01:02] <Razor-X> battlecat: ....
[01:02] <Razor-X> the 100 doesen't mean much
[01:03] <Razor-X> this is a good lesson for all you people ;)
[01:03] <hosler> serengeti, I was thinking more like osxbars, system info apps, and other stuff like that on my desktop.
[01:03] <Razor-X> the first, highly marketable IBM PC out there was called the 8086
[01:03] <Razor-X> it has something to do with the number of registers and such, i'm not going to get into it
[01:03] <serengeti> hosler, it's gdesklets then
[01:03] <battlecat> So what is the diff with the ones I asked about
[01:04] <Freedomzen> hosler, adesklets or gdesklets
[01:04] <GenericBob> The_Vox: Ok but i dont see any group wheel in the /etc/group file :(
[01:04] <jasoncohen> nalioth, ok, i signed up
[01:04] <Razor-X> corresponding itterations of the processors included more stuff with registrs
[01:04] <Razor-X> the 8086 was superceded by the 80286
[01:04] <hosler> ok thanks
[01:04] <Razor-X> then the 80386
[01:04] <Freedomzen> GenericBob, I just use a root passwd and bypass sudo completly
[01:04] <Razor-X> then the 80486
[01:04] <Freedomzen> it works for me
[01:04] <Razor-X> the 80486 was the first to host extended registers
[01:05] <serengeti> hosler, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:05] <Razor-X> and thus, was given the prefix "i486"
[01:05] <The_Vox> GenericBob: uhm...never mind, not wheel here either...seems to be either adm or admin you need the user in
[01:05] <Danar> just ordered some more CDs :)
[01:05] <dbernar1> dude who does not know this, it was like 10 years ago
[01:05] <battlecat> will a distro that is made for i586 work better than a distro made for i386 on a P3?
[01:05] <Razor-X> that's why 1286 and i386 are a bit misleading, but, ok......
[01:05] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: there isn't a codec folder in my /usr/local/lib... should i create one? and how do i create one since it's locked?
[01:05] <Razor-X> battlecat: if you think a little after reading my description... yes....
[01:06] <battlecat> well you know about assumptions
[01:06] <Freedomzen> MidNightRaVeN, install the gstreamer metapkg and watch stuff in totem
[01:06] <battlecat> and typos
[01:06] <GenericBob> Its a bit sad that so far what i need to fix the problem is affected by the same problem that, kinda make me stuck...
[01:06] <MidNightRaVeN> Freedomzen: lol everyone tells me something different ;-) does that work well?
[01:06] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: if a folder or file is 'locked' then you don't have permissions because you either aren't the owner, or aren't root
[01:06] <dbernar1> or both
[01:06] <serengeti> have a good night... or day... have a good whatever :) I'm falling asleeeeeee
[01:06] <serengeti> p
[01:07] <The_Vox> GenericBob: what's the problem?
[01:07] <Freedomzen> MidNightRaVeN, for me it did when I had Ubuntu installed b4 but now I need to get nvidia working
[01:07] <serengeti> bye
[01:07] <dbernar1> see ya serengeti ...you in africa?
[01:07] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: just a note in case you don't know... never log in as root, except in a terminal, and only if necessary. use sudo instead
[01:07] <serengeti> dbernar1 no, eastern europe :)
[01:07] <serengeti> Poland
[01:07] <dbernar1> cool. good night
[01:07] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea! see... how do you use sudo to open up the folder and create a codec folder inside?
[01:08] <Freedomzen> sudo mkdir foldername?
[01:08] <hosler> serengeti, thanks
[01:08] <GenericBob> The_Vox: every admin application on ubuntu need a password, when i provide the password it say:  Fail: Child terminated with 1 status
[01:08] <MidNightRaVeN> kk
[01:08] <MidNightRaVeN> *trying*
[01:08] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: if you want to create a sub folder, then in a terminal, put 'sudo mkdir foldername'
[01:08] <The_Vox> GenericBob: uhm...even in console?
[01:08] <Eddie> Hi guys, im having a problem with DNS
[01:08] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: use the full path if you can't cd into that dir first
[01:09] <Eddie> resolv.conf keeps reverting to "search" and my routers ip as its contents
[01:09] <Eddie> despite my having edited it to match my real dns settings
[01:09] <Eddie> it continues to revert
[01:09] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: another handy tip if you don't know: use tab completion
[01:09] <GenericBob> The_Vox: in the console i get the user  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[01:09] <lamentconfigurea> Eddie did you edit the document with "sudo" ?
[01:09] <MidNightRaVeN> used the full path and it worked =D thx! Do you know anyone if Xine will import codecs from /usr/local/lib/codecs like mplayer?
[01:09] <Freedomzen> Eddie, is there a script in /etc/init.d that deals with DNS?
[01:09] <Eddie> lamentconfigurea: yeah, it works for a while
[01:09] <lamentconfigurea> weard
[01:09] <MidNightRaVeN> or do all players look in that directory?
[01:10] <The_Vox> GenericBob: uhm...my guess is that you are going to have to get in in single-user mode and work from there to fix it...but I'm not sure if you actually can.
[01:10] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: sudo = Super User DO. ie, do as super user (root)
[01:10] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: you can use it to run just about any command as root
[01:10] <GenericBob> If the reboot dont work ill try to patch this problem using gentoo ;)
[01:10] <hosler> anyone here get counter-strike to play on linux? Just want to know if its worth trying.
[01:11] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: i just haven't learned all the mkdir, and such commands yet...
[01:11] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeh.. they're handy to know. use 'man' frequently
[01:11] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: will do =) how do you extract files into the folder once you are ready though? with like the sudo command?
[01:12] <GMachine_24> I have been unable to install the "help" files for The Gimp. I get a checksum error message for one of the files that is supposed to b
[01:12] <GMachine_24> be downloaded. sorry.
[01:12] <dabaR> thank goodness that the nick became available...
[01:12] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: you can either change the permissions on the folder, or do it as root. as i said, you can run most commands as root with sudo: 'sudo command arguments'
[01:13] <dabaR> Ive been waiting for days...
[01:13] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: see 'man sudo'
[01:13] <dabaR> I should register it
[01:13] <MidNightRaVeN> kk
[01:13] <dabaR> !rootsude
[01:13] <ubotu> No idea, dabaR
[01:13] <dabaR> !rootsudo
[01:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:13] <MidNightRaVeN> there?
[01:13] <dabaR> ya, read that.
[01:13] <MidNightRaVeN> kk
[01:13] <dabaR> about the root.
[01:13] <Eddie> hmm
[01:13] <dabaR> mhm.
[01:13] <GMachine_24> anyone else try to download the "help" files for the gimp?
[01:14] <dabaR> tried again, GMachine_24 , I mean, a checksum error means bad download...
[01:14] <Danar> Danar: since you're doing stuff in /usr/lib or whatever, best to run the command with sudo, rather than changing permissions
[01:14] <dabaR> *tried again?
[01:14] <dabaR> nice, teh guy is talking to himself on IRC.
[01:14] <GMachine_24> I have tried for a couple days. But am willing to keep at it.
[01:14] <dabaR> :P
[01:14] <dabaR> you use a router?
[01:15] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: i just gotta find out what the sudo command is to extra files though
[01:15] <Danar> dabaR: your client have replacements? ;)
[01:15] <GMachine_24> do I use a router? yes.
[01:15] <dabaR> it says <danar> danar: blah...
[01:15] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: er, no. you need the command to extract files or whatever it is you're trying to do. then just put sudo in front of it to do it as root
[01:15] <dabaR> GMachine_24: try withou the router, higher chance of correct download.
[01:15] <GMachine_24> ok. thanks.
[01:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone have any idea of my ftp question?
[01:15] <Eddie> Can anyone suggest a good peer to peer client for ubuntu
[01:15] <owlmanatt> Howdy, having some monitor troubles. I rebooted today and my dual-head setup has gone whack. The 21" monitor won't work at 1024x768 anymore, but 1600x1200 is fine for it...anyone know what would cause this? TwinView with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200, nvidia modules, kernel 2.6.10-386.
[01:15] <Eddie> and a good bittorrent client
[01:16] <Eddie> by peer to peer I meant gnutella2
[01:16] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: oooo lol
[01:16] <The_Vox> Eddie: azureus for BT
[01:16] <GMachine_24> azureus agreed
[01:16] <The_Vox> Eddie: for p2p amule
[01:16] <Danar> dabaR: huh? i said that cause you said 'teh'. you should be able to have it automatically replace it with 'the' (or anything else for that matter)
[01:16] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: k then.. i need to know the extract command for terminal =D
[01:16] <Eddie> The_Vox, the java one?
[01:16] <Eddie> ok thanks
[01:16] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: could be tar, unzip, unrar, etc
[01:16] <The_Vox> Eddie: yup, the java one...I have java, but azureus rocks. Just "sudo aptitude install azureus" and it'll deal with the java installation
[01:16] <dabaR> Danar: no, irssi, maybe  it does it, dunno
[01:17] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: prolly tar. 'man tar'
[01:17] <dabaR> extract waht?
[01:17] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea, it just says .tar.bz2
[01:17] <Danar> good question...
[01:17] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[01:17] <MidNightRaVeN> windows?
[01:17] <MidNightRaVeN> ;-)
[01:17] <MidNightRaVeN> some codecs i'm trying to use for playing a DVD
[01:17] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: is this your idea of ripping...?
[01:18] <Danar> heh
[01:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know anything about pureftpd?
[01:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like should i get it?
[01:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: you ought to be able to extract it in nautilus or something
[01:18] <GMachine_24> I tried again and got same nonsense - that I should file a bug report and E: broken packages
[01:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: you don't have to do everything in the terminal
[01:18] <GMachine_24> I tried apt-get install gimp-help
[01:18] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: oh yeah... no permissions
[01:18] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can install and try ALL ftp servers
[01:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[01:19] <liz4rd> :P anyone elses ubuntu cd's come in today?
[01:19] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: as long as they aren't running at the same time, they wont cause any trouble
[01:19] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: tar xzjf file.tar.bz2
[01:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> liz4rd !! hey whats up
[01:19] <dabaR> I think, I will check.
[01:19] <MidNightRaVeN> yea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it
[01:19] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY: pureftpd is good, so is vsftpd
[01:19] <liz4rd> hey man nm
[01:19] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea... but when i try to extract it in whatever progam Ubuntu uses... it says I don't have permission and I don't know how to get past it
[01:19] <flegare> The first time i launch a "Admin" application in ubuntu it prompt for password, i type it, then the prompt disapear, then nothing.... When i try to relaunch a "admin" application i get the Child terminated with 1 status. I guess its not a normal beavior anyone know what is the problem????
[01:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i just want something easy
[01:19] <liz4rd> dabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz1
[01:19] <liz4rd> dabaR: tar jxvf file.tar.bz2
[01:19] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: untar it into your home dir first
[01:20] <dabaR> so then I said it right, oh no i didnt.
[01:20] <MidNightRaVeN> kk *goes to untaring*
[01:20] <liz4rd> lol
[01:20] <GMachine_24> fleg: no. did you try application>sytem tools>root terminal?
[01:20] <liz4rd> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hows penguin?
[01:20] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: done
[01:20] <owlmanatt> ...Or it could randomly work for no reason at all...
[01:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> don't know
[01:21] <liz4rd> where has he been latly?
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> haven't gone in there in a while cause theres some jerks in ther
[01:21] <flegare> GMachine_24: same deal
[01:21] <liz4rd> who?
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> don't know
[01:21] <liz4rd> uniq?
[01:21] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: we are working with the w32 codecs, right?
[01:21] <GMachine_24> hmm. fleg i don't know what to say.
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> godsmoke and his cownes
[01:21] <ghostdog> I am having problems with cups, I want to add windows client drivers but no luck
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crownes
[01:21] <flegare> GMachine_24: prompt then crash, they are all under the same "Security" system
[01:21] <liz4rd> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i'll come in one day and tell them all off :P
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[01:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that would be awsome
[01:22] <liz4rd> then uniq will whip out chanserv cuz he's a bitch :P
[01:22] <flegare> is there a log where i can find interesting clue about what is going on?
[01:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nice
[01:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:22] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: dunno... it's the codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[01:22] <Proteque> does anyone by any chance have serverguide 6.0.9 or some other version supporting Netfinity 5100? I have lost my cd and IBM only have newer versions availible for downloads :(
[01:22] <GMachine_24> fleg: good question
[01:22] <root________> I just installed ubuntu on my girlfriend's PC, and the wireless isn't yet working..  the website for the card that's built in says to use madwifi, but I don't know how to make the ubuntu install use madwifi
[01:22] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: did you check what's _in_ the file first?
[01:22] <dabaR> we can tell.
[01:22] <dabaR> you are root
[01:22] <liz4rd> hahahahah
[01:23] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: are you sure it has the codecs, and only the codecs in them? might also have source, etc. IOW, things you don't need in /usr/lib
[01:23] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea... and it has a readme that says to put all the files into /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:23] <root________> dabaR, actually, I'm booted into windows so I can get tech support without running to the back room :)
[01:23] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: k
[01:23] <GMachine_24> well that was weird. i almost crashed my computer.
[01:23] <dabaR> :)
[01:23] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: ok open a terminal
[01:23] <liz4rd> aterm to be exact
[01:23] <Danar> root________: shouldn't IRC as root
[01:23] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk, opened
[01:23] <dabaR> hes in windows.
[01:24] <Danar> apparently not
[01:24] <root________> Danar, it's kinda hard not to in windows..  EVERY user ir root >,.,<
[01:24] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea he just won't leave me alone every time i go in there he makes mean jokes about me
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like calling me a retard >.<
[01:24] <liz4rd> lol
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea pisses me off
[01:24] <liz4rd> awe poor you
[01:24] <Danar> user: ~root@67-51-134-62.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net
[01:25] <Danar> ~root
[01:25] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: stay out
[01:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:25] <Danar> you put that on purpose?
[01:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[01:25] <liz4rd> :P
[01:25] <GMachine_24> I wish someone would bring me ice cream.
[01:25] <dabaR> buy slaves.
[01:25] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no need to hang out with assholes, when you can hang out with us
[01:26] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: wierd... it says there isn't such a directory...
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> good point
[01:26] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: thats good
[01:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu users seem to be nicer ^_^
[01:26] <Danar> root________: and technically, there is no root on windows
[01:26] <The_Vox> dabaR: why buy slaves when you can find them on many places for free? :)
[01:26] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: o lol
[01:26] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:26] <root________> Danar, xchat lets me fake all those responses :)
[01:26] <liz4rd> wtf #kubuntu is WAY more fun then this shit hole
[01:26] <liz4rd> :P
[01:26] <GMachine_24> so.........
[01:26] <gbic> Anyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl?
[01:26] <liz4rd> you guys are to OMG STAY ON TOPIC
[01:26] <dabaR> your point being?
[01:27] <Danar> root________: you're not faking your ip. anyone can change their username. it's not 'faking' it. i'm asking if you did it on purpose
[01:27] <dabaR> liz4rd: there is a reason to that.
[01:27] <root________> Danar, anyway...  all users are so called super users...  therefore every user is root :)
[01:27] <GMachine_24> what's the topic
[01:27] <liz4rd> see you guys are doing it right now
[01:27] <liz4rd> :P
[01:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> liz4rd man chill it's all cool here man
[01:27] <root________> Danar, yes, I made all of the xchat responses come up as "root"
[01:27] <liz4rd> good
[01:27] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:27] <MidNightRaVeN> Password:
[01:27] <MidNightRaVeN> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory
[01:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hands liz4rd a shot of bacardi 151
[01:27] <MidNightRaVeN> ?
[01:27] <Danar> root________: no... early versions of windows have no root or admin user. later versions have admin accounts, which is similar to root, but not the same
[01:27] <liz4rd> ok i'm good now
[01:27] <dabaR> add -r after mkdir
[01:27] <liz4rd> :P
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:28] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: when i browse for it... it does show up...
[01:28] <Danar> root________: k. just checking
[01:28] <liz4rd> joint*
[01:28] <liz4rd> joint*
[01:28] <dabaR> wow, weird...
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok installed pure ftpd how to run?
[01:28] <liz4rd> ftpd?
[01:28] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: probably better to use the address in the readme /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:28] <dabaR> how about I pass a ban to liz4rd :))
[01:28] <liz4rd> i think
[01:28] <Aerebus> Can anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme?
[01:28] <liz4rd> dabaR: do it
[01:28] <root________> liz4rd, when you can't spell it, it's time to stop smoking it
[01:28] <liz4rd> if it makes you feel big
[01:28] <dabaR> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it is runing already likely.
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://www.pureftpd.org/
[01:28] <liz4rd> root________: lol word
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shit then how to configure
[01:29] <dabaR> find its config file, maybe in /etc
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it looked like it had a graphical user interface
[01:29] <Ziggity> HI. I used synaptic to install wideStudio .. Buts its not in Applications->Programming and I cannot launch it using the Run menu ( using wideStudio ) anyone can Help????
[01:29] <dabaR> shit, why shit if it is running?
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats why i installed it
[01:29] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: that's a confusing error, lol
[01:29] <liz4rd> LOL
[01:29] <nalioth> Ziggity: have you been to the apps homepage/faqs?
[01:29] <liz4rd> i had the best error
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> yea lol look...
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need the pics lol
[01:29] <liz4rd> totem crashed
[01:29] <liz4rd> no reqason
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs: No such file or directory
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs
[01:29] <GMachine_24> you rock liz
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> Password:
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs': No such file or directory
[01:29] <Ziggity> nalioth, No!
[01:29] <liz4rd> that was the error :P
[01:29] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ ls /usr/local/libs/codecs/
[01:30] <MidNightRaVeN> ls: /usr/local/libs/codecs/: No such file or directory
[01:30] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/
[01:30] <MidNightRaVeN> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory
[01:30] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$
[01:30] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: ahem. shouldn't paste in here
[01:30] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: quit pasting
[01:30] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: we saw it.
[01:30] <MidNightRaVeN> sorry =X
[01:30] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: I told you add a -r after the mkdir
[01:30] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: use /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:30] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: there's rafb.net/paste and stuff liek that for pasting
[01:30] <js_> dabaR: the flag is -p, not -r
[01:30] <nalioth> dabaR: i gave him the wrong dir name
[01:30] <dabaR> or do what nalioth said, taht is better.
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> looks through documentation to see how to turn on the gui
[01:30] <Ziggity> nalioth: is there something There?
[01:30] <nalioth> Ziggity: yes, how to use it for one
[01:31] <Danar> turn on the gui? heh...
[01:31] <Ziggity> nalioth:  I cannot launch it .. Don't know where or how to from Hoary?
[01:31] <bhearsum> anyone here using an orinoco_cs card in hoary?
[01:31] <trebuchet> how can i mount my ntfs drive so that any user can access it?
[01:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> liz4ed pass that shit here man ^_^
[01:31] <bhearsum> use -o uid
[01:31] <bhearsum> -o uid=youruid (usually 1000)
[01:32] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: did you use tab completion?
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hit's it and passes it back
[01:32] <dabaR> liz4rd licks my toe.
[01:32] <nalioth> Ziggity: does wide<whatever> have a homepage?
[01:32] <dabaR> haha
[01:32] <liz4rd> hahahahhaah
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> blows some into room O_o
[01:32] <liz4rd> hahahah
[01:32] <liz4rd> :P
[01:32] <liz4rd> lol i just love licking toes
[01:32] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: type the first few chars, and hit tab, and it completes it for you
[01:32] <nalioths_dog> trebuchet: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[01:32] <dabaR> Ziggity: have you tried typing in widestudio in a terminal?
[01:32] <tmahoneyt11> Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu onto my PC
[01:32] <tmahoneyt11> ?
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok some one can help me with this pure ftpd?
[01:32] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: how we doing?
[01:32] <dabaR> widestudio<enter>
[01:32] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: yea... but now it says - r is an invalid option... is that right?? sudo mkir -r?
[01:32] <root________> can someone help me set up my wireless card ?  I can go boot onto the wired lan in ubuntu..  get my ass back in here fast..  but It doesn't seem to work right now
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it show a picture of a gui on it's site
[01:33] <Ziggity> dabaR, Yes.. http://www.widestudio.org/EE/index.html
[01:33] <nalioth> tmahoneyt11: boot the install cd, and follow the instructions
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i want to know how to get to that gui
[01:33] <GMachine_24> tmahoney: what have you tried?
[01:33] <tmahoneyt11> It doesn't work
[01:33] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: man mkdir :p
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[01:33] <dabaR> Ziggity: that was not my question, I asked something else.
[01:33] <nalioth> Ziggity: have you been there, and read the FAQ/documentation?
[01:33] <trebuchet> and just put that crap in /etc ?
[01:33] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: are you here?
[01:33] <Ziggity> oopss.
[01:33] <dabaR> i bet widestudio in a terminal works.
[01:33] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: yea lol i think i figured something out...
[01:34] <dabaR> $2(Im a high roller.)
[01:34] <Ziggity> dabaR, not in the terminal but in the 'Run Application' menu
[01:34] <GMachine_24> tmahoney have you just tried booting from the ubuntu cd?
[01:34] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you do not need any -x stuff
[01:34] <eruin> hell
[01:34] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: as you can see in 'man mkdir' there's no -r option
[01:34] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs"
[01:34] <eruin> gnome 2.12 will be based on gtk 2.8!
[01:34] <eruin> cairo!
[01:34] <MidNightRaVeN> can i paste a two liner?
[01:34] <nalioth> tmahoneyt11: you should check your iso images against the md5 checksum on the d/l site
[01:34] <liz4rd> MidNightRaVeN: yes
 ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/libs/codecs/
 mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/libs/codecs/': No such file or directory
[01:35] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: YOU ARE NOT LISTENING
[01:35] <MidNightRaVeN> lol i'm trying!!!
[01:35] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:35] <MidNightRaVeN> there are so many people talking!!!
[01:35] <trebuchet> what do i do with http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab ?
[01:35] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: READ THIS NEXT
[01:35] <MidNightRaVeN> all the voices in my head!!!!
[01:35] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: its "sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs"
[01:35] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:35] <gnub33> hey
[01:35] <liz4rd> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:35] <GMachine_24> i'm back. hooray.
[01:35] <nalioth> trebuchet: execute it
[01:35] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[01:35] <trebuchet> looks like its a bash script so i guess i'd want to run it at startup
[01:35] <Danar> nalioth: if you bothered to check the paste, he already did
[01:36] <MidNightRaVeN> kk... tried it and it says the file exists now
[01:36] <nalioth> tmahoneyt11: go to where you d/l the iso image and get the md5 checksum for the image you d/l
[01:36] <nalioth> Danar: he has "libs" not "lib"
[01:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone know how to get to the gui of pure-ftpd?
[01:36] <SpecialBuddy> Is there a way to make gaim act like msn to the point where it blinks if someone sends you a message
[01:36] <MidNightRaVeN> ravencorp@reavencorp:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[01:36] <MidNightRaVeN> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/codecs/': File exists
[01:36] <gnub33> I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default?????
[01:36] <Danar> nalioth: oops. my bad. didn't see that
[01:36] <root________> hey..  if ubuntu can make a ubuntu livecd, why can't ubuntu make an X based ubuntu installer CD ?
[01:36] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: GREAT!
[01:36] <Ziggity> How can I find Where an application has installed tO
[01:36] <othernoob> is it possible to play 10 year old games with wine in decent speed? last time i tried on xp it was way too fast
[01:36] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: lol kk
[01:36] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now navigate in the terminal to the directory with your codecs in it
[01:37] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: that's why tab completion helps. use it. frequently
[01:37] <eruin> trebuchet, that script looks harmless
[01:37] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: the extracted ones?
[01:37] <SpecialBuddy> anyone
[01:37] <nalioth> eruin: that script was written by seveas to automates fstab entry
[01:37] <trebuchet> yup, i figured it would be, coming from ubunutulinux.org
[01:37] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: yes, that directory
[01:37] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: did the second time around and that's the only reason i figured it out ;-)
[01:37] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know if you can do that with gaim
[01:37] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[01:37] <eruin> allit does.nl, not .org
[01:38] <nalioth> eruin: seveas is from .nl
[01:38] <gbic> Anyone know of a good ftp client that supports implicit ssl?
[01:38] <erikp> Hi all.  I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, but when I try to log in, nothing happens.  I just get a dark brown screen and a cursor.  The Failsafe Terminal login works, but Failsafe Gnome doesn't.  Can anyone help?
[01:38] <root________> I'ma boot into ubuntu and I'll be back shortly...
[01:38] <dabaR> wsbuilder for widestudio
[01:38] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know anything about gaim
[01:38] <nalioth> erikp: any error msgs of any kind?
[01:38] <erikp> nalioth: nothing pops up.  It just sits there
[01:38] <Razor-X> hahahahahahaha!!!
[01:38] <trebuchet> hmm
[01:39] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk, i'm in the folder
[01:39] <Razor-X> back to emacsing
[01:39] <trebuchet> how am i supposed to run it?
[01:39] <gnub33> I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!
[01:39] <trebuchet> normal users don't have permission and sudo ./blah doesn't work either
[01:39] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now type "sudo cp ./* /usr/local/lib/codecs"
[01:39] <dabaR> why someone would use such an ugly looking application escapes me.
[01:39] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know anything about gaim
[01:40] <gnub33> somebody please help
[01:40] <nalioth> trebuchet: use "sudo -s" and then "sh ./win_mac>whatever"
[01:40] <dabaR> it is a multiprotocol messaging client for Windows and Unix.
[01:40] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: with the asterick after /?
[01:40] <dabaR> it is not to be spelled gAIM.
[01:40] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you are copying all files in the dir into the codecs dir. that is what the * means (all files)
[01:40] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: yeh. copy & paste that
[01:40] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: * is a wildcard
[01:41] <dabaR> ctrl+p is the keybnoard shortcut for the properties window from the buddy list.
[01:41] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk, i hit enter and it just pops back to the folder again.. guessing it finished
[01:41] <dabaR> the default icon is a yellow human like figure, resembling the AIM icon.
[01:41] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/"
[01:41] <dabaR> the website is gaim.sourceforge.net. DO I win anything for knowing all this about gaim?
[01:42] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: usually that means success. otherwise it gives an error/info message
[01:42] <SpecialBuddy> it's called gaim
[01:42] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: kk
[01:42] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: =)
[01:42] <Ziggity> When you use synaptic does it Install the selected packages? How can I find out where
[01:42] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: it listed all the codecs =D
[01:42] <Aerebus> Can anyone tell me how to install a mouse theme? i downloaded this theme from http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19506 and dont know what to do next
[01:42] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: now you may remove the folder you expanded into your home directory
[01:42] <Danar> Ziggity: if you tell it to
[01:43] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: with the codecs in it
[01:43] <gnub33> somebody please help
[01:43] <gnub33> I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!
[01:43] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: and is that it?
[01:43] <SpecialBuddy> dabar, how do you make it flash if you get a message
[01:43] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you are in business
[01:43] <SpecialBuddy> I don't know if I have one unless the sound is on
[01:43] <MidNightRaVeN> w00t w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:43] <MidNightRaVeN> thx =D =D
[01:44] <Aerebus> Nalioth, remember my mouse problem last night?
[01:44] <erikp> Aerebus: you might try http://wiki.tryphon.org/How_to_install_X11_cursors
[01:44] <erikp> Aerebus: I've never tried it though
[01:44] <nalioth> Aerebus: i remember seeing you talking about it
[01:44] <dcolem> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian
[01:44] <ShadowRage> java isnt working
[01:44] <nalioth> dcolem: US
[01:44] <ShadowRage> :(
[01:44] <Aerebus> I fixed it appearently
[01:44] <nalioths_dog> ShadowRage: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[01:45] <ShadowRage> the java plugin fails to load for mozilla
[01:45] <Ziggity> Danar,  I Did tell it to .. BUT cannot find the package and its not on the Menu?
[01:45] <nalioth> Ziggity: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[01:45] <ShadowRage> I just downloaded the RPM version and alien'd it
[01:45] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: can xine use those codecs?
[01:46] <nalioth> ShadowRage: bad idea
[01:46] <nalioth> ShadowRage: use the dogs suggestion
[01:46] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: any a/v app on your system will use those codecs now
[01:46] <GMachine_24> using the java bin file was fairly easy....
[01:46] <GMachine_24> for install i mean
[01:46] <Ziggity> nalioth, : Yes.
[01:46] <Danar> Ziggity: select the package, right click on it, choose install (or upgrade), and then click apply
[01:47] <gnub33> I messed around with BUM and I disabled mountvirtfs by accident how do I revert my init scripts back to default??? I have to currently start udev manually!!
[01:47] <gnub33> ??????????????????
[01:47] <Danar> Ziggity: make sure you clicked apply. if you can't find it after you know it's been installed, try running it from a terminal
[01:47] <nalioths_dog> gnub33: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:47] <Ziggity> Danar,  : I've done that and it did its download thing. but NOW I cannot find the package to launch it..
[01:47] <GMachine_24> I have no idea what you're talking about gnub otherwise I would try to help.
[01:47] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: =( xine still isn't working then...
[01:47] <nalioth> Danar: he doesnt know the command to start it
[01:48] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: looks like some kind of audio problem...
[01:48] <nalioth> Danar: i've directed Ziggity to the homepage of that app to read the faq/docs
[01:48] <GMachine_24> zig you d/l the bin file?
[01:48] <Ziggity> Danar, : I don't know how?? I'm new to this Linux stuff..
[01:48] <erikp> gnub33: if we knew, we could help you.  I expect most people in here are newbies.
[01:48] <Danar> Ziggity: you can either try tab completion, or check the installed files in synaptic
[01:48] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: out of my league, i'm a afraid
[01:48] <trebuchet> hmm.. when i'm playing back video that works fine on my other systems the a/v sync is off on this system
[01:48] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: says... audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type...
[01:48] <Danar> Ziggity: ok. what did you install?
[01:48] <|QuaD-> how come when i update/upgrade breezy, gaim isn't upgrading
[01:48] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: crap then...
[01:48] <Ziggity> Danar,  : wideStudio
[01:48] <MidNightRaVeN> hmmmmmmmm
[01:48] <Razor-X> I think i'm a gonna try something ohter than BitchX
[01:48] <GMachine_24> oh
[01:48] <Danar> Ziggity: and be sure to check the links nalioth pointed you to
[01:48] <Razor-X> and no, it's not irssi ;)
[01:48] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: someone else may know
[01:48] <Razor-X> or Epic
[01:48] <Razor-X> erc!
[01:49] <GMachine_24> erect
[01:49] <nalioth> Razor-X: so what is it?
[01:49] <Razor-X> GMachine_24: you're going to get lynched if I told a certain group of people about that
[01:49] <Ziggity> Danar, : I went back and selected the build-essentials + wideStudio ( marked it for reinstallation)
[01:49] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have a clue as to why xine is giving this error message? audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type: 01060000, etc.
[01:49] <mae> is there any way to enable the cups web administration interface?
[01:49] <Razor-X> trust me, emacs users are voracious enough that, if you're not burned alive then healed several times, something worse will happen to you ;)
[01:49] <GMachine_24> i'll behave
[01:49] <Danar> Ziggity: it's likely already installed...
[01:50] <root________> alright, better ?  now I'm indeed in Linux, and NOT running as root :)P
[01:50] <root________> :)
[01:50] <Ziggity> Danar, : Those links point to building from source.. I though synaptic took care of all that for you
[01:50] <nalioth> Ziggity: go to the widestudio homepage and READ THE FAQ & DOCS
[01:50] <trebuchet> the video seems like its being cleaned up by the video player
[01:50] <GMachine_24> yay for root
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> liz4rd you there?
[01:50] <Danar> Ziggity: try wsbuilder
[01:50] <liz4rd> nope
[01:50] <liz4rd> :P
[01:50] <liz4rd> yes whast up
[01:50] <GMachine_24> when all else fails.... read the instructions
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> need some help can i pm you?
[01:50] <liz4rd> no read the man
[01:50] <liz4rd> :P
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> roflmao
[01:50] <GMachine_24> ha
[01:50] <liz4rd> ChurcH_of_FoamY: for sure
[01:51] <MidNightRaVeN> =(
[01:51] <Danar> Ziggity: if you select the package in synaptic, and click Properties, you can check the Installed Files tab to see what to run. you look for files in /usr/bin usually.
[01:51] <root________> I need to make my wireless card work, and I've found instructions that say "madwifi" is the way...  how do I do this ?
[01:51] <Danar> Ziggity: wsbuilder is the most likely one you want that i see...
[01:51] <Ziggity> Danar,  : : Now how did you know that
[01:51] <Ziggity> OH!
[01:51] <Ziggity> You learn something every day :-_)))
[01:52] <Danar> Ziggity: heh. you _should_ learn something every day ;)
[01:52] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone here know why xine says: audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type?
[01:52] <Danar> Ziggity: you should also be familiar with the 'man' command
[01:52] <GMachine_24> oh 'man'
[01:53] <Ziggity> Danar,  : Is there anyway to Add it to the Menu under programming so I dont have to type it in?
[01:53] <trebuchet> damn it
[01:53] <GMachine_24> ;)
[01:53] <Danar> Ziggity: try 'man man' 'man sudo' 'man woman' ;p
[01:53] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, what kind of file are you trying to listen to watch ?
[01:53] <trebuchet> the a/v synce is a few seconds off in any video i play with this system, only
[01:53] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, err watch :)
[01:53] <nalioth> Ziggity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[01:53] <Danar> Ziggity: haven't edited menus in gnome before. someone else might be more help there. or you can search for it yourself
[01:53] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: it's just a regular DVD... I've tried Gladiator, Matrix... and Master and Commander...
[01:54] <erikp> mae: did you try going to  http://localhost:631/admin in a web browser?
[01:54] <Danar> Ziggity: prolly faster to ask someone else, but you'll learn more looking it up on your own
[01:54] <Ziggity> Danar,  : I'm really new to Ubuntu and Linux ,, so sorry ..
[01:54] <Danar> arg @ nalioth :p
[01:54] <mae> erikp, yes, but i cannot login and change any settings
[01:54] <Danar> Ziggity: np. everyone's new at some point
[01:54] <Ziggity> nalioth,  : thanx
[01:54] <GMachine_24> <---is perenially new
[01:54] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:55] <[MW] Shadow> Gnome Desktop Manager is failing everytime i bootup into Ubuntu
[01:55] <Ziggity> whats the most widly accepted programming language for the linux platform?
[01:55] <GMachine_24> french
[01:55] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: synaptic will have?
[01:55] <GMachine_24> j/k
[01:55] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, that should fix your sound problems with basically everything :)
[01:55] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: lol i hope so...
[01:55] <Danar> Ziggity: same as for others: C++
[01:55] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, you might need to add the universe and multiverse repos but see if it is there (it outta be)
[01:56] <Danar> Ziggity: it's an industry standard
[01:56] <Danar> Ziggity: for multiple industries even
[01:56] <[MW] Shadow> Does anyone have an idea why gdm keeps failing everytime i try and boot into ubuntu?
[01:56] <Danar> Ziggity: what got you into ubuntu/linux?
[01:56] <root________> How do I make my wireless network card work, it's not working yet, and I know it's supported my the "madwifi" driver, however, the ath_pci driver is getting loaded instead
[01:56] <erikp> mae: You probably have done a google search already, but this might be relevant: http://faq.jdshelp.org/faq/cache/166.html  I'm not an expert on cups, so I can't really offer any more help than that.  Maybe someone else who knows more about cups can.
[01:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here use pure-ftpd?
[01:57] <Danar> Ziggity: actually, it depends on what you want to make
[01:57] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ewwwww
[01:57] <hosler> I cant add a launcher with the gdesklet StarterBar? Did anyone have the same problem? I try to add one but it never appears.
[01:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X huh?
[01:58] <Danar> Ziggity: if you want to make programs in general, go with C++ or python or something. but there are others more oriented towards specific things
[01:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X is there something better thats gui based?
[01:58] <Ziggity> Danar,  :  can you please enlighten me on the Others..
[01:58] <Danar> Ziggity: you can use whatever language you like though
[01:58] <chrissturm> recommending c++ to newbies is not recommended ;)
[01:59] <Danar> Ziggity: heh. enlighten yourself. head over to google.com/linux and search 'programming'. you'll find plenty
[01:59] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: .... still nothing =( it
[01:59] <Ziggity> Danar,   :  even for Ubuntu .. I was led to believe 'they' prefered python
[01:59] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: has many error messages now...
[01:59] <chrissturm> ruby is a nice language
[01:59] <othernoob> chrissturm: what's wrong with c++
[01:59] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[01:59] <Danar> Ziggity: the platform you develop on shouldn't matter much. you can write code on windows that will compile on linux if you make it ansi compliant (cross-platform code)
[02:00] <chrissturm> c++ apps just crash if you do something wron
[02:00] <trebuchet> i'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off
[02:00] <chrissturm> othernoob, its hard to learn how to do it right if you dont get error messages
[02:00] <fujiko> hello, can i ask questions here regarding ubuntu?
[02:00] <Danar> Ziggity: the langauge(s) you learn should depend on the direction you want to go. what you want to do
[02:00] <othernoob> chrissturm: don't most apps just crash if you fuck up when coding?
[02:00] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, I will post my /etc/apt/sources.list file for you to copy give me a sec
[02:00] <auk> fujiko: yes
[02:01] <hosler> Does anyone know how to add a launcher to the gdesklet StartBar?
[02:01] <Danar> othernoob: unless you make a miracly typo that _fixes_ your problem ;p
[02:01] <golgor> anyone know what possibly could be wrong if VLC dont play any sound (no problem with the volume)
[02:01] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: any clue why it would say that it can't find MRL?
[02:01] <Danar> *miracle. heh
[02:01] <chrissturm> othernoob, with ruby or python or java you get a nice stack trace with linenumbers
[02:01] <fujiko> auk, how come whenever i do update i get an md5sum mismatch error
[02:01] <fujiko> also when i try to install some software i get that same error
[02:01] <chrissturm> and having a interpreter is especially useful when learning a language
[02:01] <daniel776> Hello.
[02:01] <Danar> goldfish: you check both VLC's volume, and your system volume?
[02:01] <auk> fujiko: haha
[02:01] <trebuchet> i'm having some problems with video playback... the video is jerky and the a/v sync is off... anybody know how to fix this? i'm on a athlon 2500 and radeon 9200
[02:02] <Danar> er, golgor, sorry
[02:02] <othernoob> chrissturm: true true. but you could also recommend haskell if that's the main reason for choosing a language ;)
[02:02] <golgor> Danar, yes i have
[02:02] <golgor> Danar,  :)
[02:02] <auk> i just got htat with the latest piece of software i nstalled (or tried to)
[02:02] <daniel776> anyone on want to guide me through installing java? i've tried reading guides but i keep getting erros =/
[02:02] <Danar> golgor: got gstreamer?
[02:02] <GMachine_24> treb: what video program?
[02:02] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:02] <trebuchet> totem
[02:02] <Danar> golgor: get audio playing it in something else?
[02:02] <golgor> Danar, yea
[02:02] <Z0l> hello
[02:03] <Danar> golgor: to which?
[02:03] <golgor> Danar, audio in rhythmbox
[02:03] <Ziggity> Danar,  : ultimatly 'application development'
[02:03] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, >> http://pastebin.ca/17270
[02:03] <Z0l> anyone using gnome-bluetooth under breezy/hoary? i'm missing the "Send via bluetooth" menu from nautilus and i don't know how to make it shown
[02:03] <Danar> Ziggity: well, what kind of apps? in general i can recommend C++ & python. and maybe a bit of ASM (assembly)
[02:03] <Ziggity> Danar, I want to make an app that downloads a file from the web. but want to get the GUI bits in as well
[02:04] <golgor> Danar, to which?
[02:04] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: *doing*
[02:04] <Danar> golgor: i meant 'yea to which question' i had asked two. the other was whether you have gstreamer
[02:04] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, some stuff doesn't need to be there but it will be ok :)
[02:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X what ftp program would you reccomend thats really easy for linux nubs?
[02:05] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: kk =) do I have to paste it over my current? or just add it in?
[02:05] <golgor> Danar, i have gstreamer... what im known of
[02:05] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY: for them to use as clients?
[02:05] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, just overwrite it
[02:05] <Danar> golgor: you using alsa? oss?
[02:05] <GMachine_24> I've never had luck getting totem to run.
[02:06] <GMachine_24> I've used videolan
[02:06] <trebuchet> heh
[02:06] <GMachine_24> with totem i get one of like a zillion messages why the dvd won't play
[02:06] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:06] <TPC> I'm having some problems with beep-media-player. If I play a file (or a stream or whatever, doesn't matter what I'm playing so its not a specific codec) sometimes the song becomes all blurred and weird. It returns to normal if I change to the next song, or pauses and resumes the song, or something similar.
[02:07] <TPC> what could be wrong?
[02:07] <Danar> golgor: alsa? oss? esd? what?
[02:07] <GMachine_24> ...are you smoking pot tpc?
[02:07] <GMachine_24> just curious....
[02:07] <TPC> GMachine_24, nope
[02:07] <mpmc> god.. It's late
[02:07] <golgor> Danar, alsa oss?
[02:07] <GMachine_24> define "late"
[02:07] <trebuchet> i'm getting no audio in vlc
[02:07] <golgor> Danar, im pretty new to linux :P
[02:07] <blackout> where's a good ndis tutorial for ubuntu?  Is there an easy way to get the ndis module for ubuntu?
[02:07] <Danar> golgor: what sound system?
[02:07] <blackout> i see the userpace utils are included
[02:07] <golgor> trebuchet, welcome to the club
[02:08] <trebuchet> :)
[02:08] <golgor> Danar, nforce2?
[02:08] <Danar> what's the default sound system for ubuntu? alsa? esd?
[02:08] <jebiga> hello
[02:08] <mpmc> haha.. I'm listening to bueaty and the beast :P
[02:08] <GMachine_24> treb you d/l all the css files to the same folder, etc?
[02:08] <golgor> Danar, how to check?
[02:08] <Danar> golgor: that would be your chipset. i'm looking for the software you're using
[02:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes
[02:08] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:08] <trebuchet> i just installed from the repos
[02:08] <GMachine_24> ahh.
[02:08] <jebiga> is it true that people of ubuntu realy send ubuntu linux to everyone who wants
[02:08] <Ninwa> Does anybody know when I can expect PHP5 to be showing up in the Ubuntu repositories?
[02:08] <Danar> anyone? what's ubuntu use by default? alsa or what?
[02:09] <GMachine_24> jeb what?
[02:09] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: kk, it reloaded
[02:09] <LinuxJones> golgor, you can run gstreamer-properties to see what your running
[02:09] <Danar> jebiga: yes. shipit.ubuntulinux.org
[02:09] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, ok can you load synaptic package manager ?
[02:09] <jebiga> thanks , I will check that site
[02:09] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, sorry too many beer :)
[02:09] <GMachine_24> treb: i've used vlc on redhat 9 with success.
[02:09] <nalioth_wrkn> jebiga: order enough cds to convert your neighborhood
[02:09] <Danar> jebiga: free shipping too :) just ordered me some
[02:09] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:09] <GMachine_24> ... not that that does us any good here
[02:09] <Danar> (more)
[02:10] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, enter gstreamer0.8-plugins in the search box
[02:10] <golgor> Danar, standard output ESD, standard source OSS
[02:10] <enkidu> hi
[02:10] <mpmc> LOL
[02:10] <GMachine_24> welcome to paradise, enk
[02:10] <mpmc> sorry
[02:10] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, it should come up with it as a package
[02:10] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones:  lol np ;-) it's loaded and running?
[02:10] <Ziggity> what tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu
[02:10] <mpmc> lol, I'm listening to something funny
[02:10] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: it did =/ and that's the one i installed before =(
[02:11] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: all the plugins are installed... =(
[02:11] <Danar> golgor: hrm. ok. 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd'
[02:11] <Danar> golgor: without quotes
[02:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X yes the other computers on my network would be the clients yes
[02:11] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, I thought you didn't have it installed ?
[02:11] <golgor> :P
[02:11] <enkidu> hi
[02:11] <enkidu> does anyone here use gnome mud?
[02:12] <enkidu> can anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu?
[02:12] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: lol no, i got it installed... it's that Xine keeps giving me that error... it says audio_decoder: error, unkown buffer type...
[02:12] <SpecialBuddy> how come when I drag a window around it kinda lags and you can see multiple windows
[02:12] <SpecialBuddy> is that something I need to shut off
[02:12] <trebuchet> hey! audio
[02:12] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, argh have you installed the w32codecs package from the mplayer website ?
[02:12] <trebuchet> thanks, danar :)
[02:13] <GMachine_24> ok... how can i change my initial settings on xchat
[02:13] <auk> anyone here getting md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages
[02:13] <Danar> LinuxJones: yeh, he did
[02:13] <auk> ?
[02:13] <trebuchet> the video is still jerky and the a/v sync is still off though
[02:13] <mpmc> LOL.. Sister Act LOL
[02:13] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: i installed the package that's on the mplayer site that says Codecs... dunno if it was w32
[02:13] <Danar> trebuchet: uh, for?
[02:13] <trebuchet> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd gstreamer0.8-oss vlc-plugin-esd
[02:13] <trebuchet> that got the audio working in vlc
[02:13] <fujiko> i'm haivng md5sum error while installing pan and firefox updates
[02:14] <Danar> trebuchet: you are golgor ?
[02:14] <mpmc> Please ignore me
[02:14] <golgor> Danar, :D
[02:14] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: gonna try Matrix again...
[02:14] <trebuchet> nope, same problem though
[02:14] <Danar> trebuchet: right. ok then :)
[02:14] <golgor> Danar, works great
[02:14] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/w32/ directory ?
[02:14] <enkidu> can anyone tell me of a better mud client i can use on ubuntu?
[02:14] <golgor> Danar, no im not trebuchet  :P
[02:14] <Danar> lol
[02:14] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, and you extracted the files to /usr/lib/win32/ gahhhh
[02:14] <SpecialBuddy> hello
[02:14] <Danar> i got that
[02:14] <fujiko> i manually downloaded the *.deb files with md5sum error and couldn't open them
[02:14] <trebuchet> yup, so my a/v sync is still off and the video is jerky
[02:15] <fujiko> other *.deb files open okay like an archive though
[02:15] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: =X i thought it said to extra those files to /usr/local/lib/codecs?
[02:15] <SpecialBuddy> is there an option for the windows to act like mouse tais
[02:15] <golgor> Danar, you seems to know alot of stuff so i have to ask you one more thing
[02:15] <SpecialBuddy> tails
[02:15] <Danar> trebuchet: crappy vid card? low ram?
[02:15] <fujiko> could this be a problem with the servers?
[02:15] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:15] <Danar> trebuchet: wrong driver?
[02:15] <trebuchet> radeon 9200, 512MB ddr
[02:15] <Danar> golgor: i know nothing ;p
[02:15] <golgor> Danar, i have this annoying sound all the time, higher when i move my mouse.. you know whats causing it?
[02:15] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: what's "There is no mrl." mean?
[02:15] <trebuchet> original driver on the video card, its accelerated
[02:16] <enkidu> 512ddr? wow
[02:16] <golgor> Danar, you knowed more than me ;P
[02:16] <enkidu> nice
[02:16] <enkidu> how much u get that for?
[02:16] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, to be sure open xine and look to advanced properties, there is a tab called codecs and it will tell you the path where the xtra codecs outta go.
[02:16] <mpmc> Is there any women here? or is it all men?? looks like it.
[02:16] <Ziggity> what tools - IDE and RAD - are there available for Ubuntu
[02:16] <mebaran151> If I post a form, will CGI deal with it the same way?
[02:16] <trebuchet> uh... i think about $60 about a year ago
[02:16] <Danar> trebuchet: yeh, old card. getting the fglrx driver should help though. it's on the ATI site
[02:16] <Z0l> byez
[02:16] <mpmc> I'll take that as a yes
[02:16] <trebuchet> yeah, i know, but it still ought to work
[02:16] <enkidu> that fglrx driver is crap
[02:16] <mpmc> I'm goin to bed
[02:17] <Danar> trebuchet: er, woops. you have it?
[02:17] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, is dma turned on your hard drive ?
[02:17] <enkidu> ati still hasn't come up with better lnx drivers
[02:17] <jussi> Problem: Add or Remove Application freezes when I run it, could someone please tell me how to fix it
[02:17] <trebuchet> how do i check if linux is using dma?
[02:17] <enkidu> bios maybe?
[02:17] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, do sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[02:18] <GMachine_24> sometimes dma settings are in the bios
[02:18] <abarbaccia> sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[02:18] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, it will say >> using_dma    =  1 (on) ....if it's turned on
[02:18] <trebuchet> yup, dma on
[02:18] <Danar> enkidu: it has hardware acceleration though
[02:18] <enkidu> is there a channel where i someone can recommend a mud client for ubuntu?
[02:18] <Danar> enkidu: er, enables it anyway
[02:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X you there?
[02:18] <enkidu> ok
[02:18] <Danar> jussi: use synaptic instead anyway
[02:18] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, can you post the output of the command to pastebin.ca ?
[02:19] <dausech> I've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass
[02:19] <blackout> does ubuntu include any sort of ndis kernel module?
[02:19] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, how mnay hard drives do you have ?
[02:19] <trebuchet> yeah, i polled both of my drives, both dma enabled
[02:20] <Danar> dausech: dunno about your specific problem, but after you type  your pass would be when it executes the command, so it would be the command that's causing the crash
[02:20] <jussi> Danar: Thanks
[02:20] <fujiko_> quit
[02:20] <fujiko_> exit
[02:20] <fujiko_> bye
[02:20] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, that's usually the problem with jerky video, what kind of system do you have like ram/processor ?
[02:20] <Danar> fujiko: try with / in front
[02:20] <Danar> heh
[02:20] <trebuchet> 512mb ddr, athlon 2500
[02:21] <enkidu> chat hmm
[02:21] <enkidu> oops
[02:21] <enkidu> hey are u using an LCD?
[02:21] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, that's a good system
[02:21] <trebuchet> http://pastebin.ca/17272
[02:21] <enkidu> this pc i'm on uses an LCD and it always seems to leave a sort of trail
[02:22] <trebuchet> yup, good enough to be sure its not a problem
[02:22] <trebuchet> still not good enough for battlefield 2 :-p
[02:22] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: wow... the computer just totally blew up...
[02:22] <trebuchet> cool!
[02:22] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[02:23] <[MW] Shadow> i have a problem with gdm failing everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[02:23] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: i was checking in the preferences of Xine in the Audio tab.. and the whole Ubuntu system slowed to a halt in processing
[02:23] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: only thing that worked really was the mouse =X
[02:23] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, hdparm -c1 /dev/hdx
[02:24] <enkidu> i once had an old micron pc and a small roach went in somehow, it found its way to the cpu fan and that was pretty much the end of that
[02:24] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, you don't have 32 bit I/O
[02:24] <trebuchet> oh
[02:24] <trebuchet> heh
[02:24] <trebuchet> so, only using half my pipe
[02:24] <enkidu> hehe
[02:24] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, it's not your fault :)
[02:25] <enkidu> that sounds so wrong in so many ways
[02:25] <SpecialBuddy> does it seem like when you move windows around fast that it shows multiple ones
[02:25] <SpecialBuddy> is that a video card problem
[02:25] <trebuchet> its okay, a lot of girls have said the same already :-P
[02:25] <enkidu> hehehe
[02:25] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, heh
[02:25] <enkidu> sometimes that is a video card prob
[02:25] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: =/ any clue?
[02:26] <enkidu> if its an ati card that's gonna be a tough one
[02:26] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: i can't find were it says it's getting the codecs from in the Xine prefences...
[02:26] <jasoncohen> where do breey's packages go when they're built by the automated build system before they go into pool?
[02:26] <enkidu> i have an ati at home and it doesn't play nice
[02:26] <jasoncohen> i.e- ubuntu's version of incoming.debian.org
[02:26] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, sounds like you have some problems :D
[02:27] <enkidu> can someone recommend a better mud client than gnome mud?
[02:27] <trebuchet> i want to get a new nvidia card... i'm thinking maybe a 6600 or 6800
[02:27] <erikp> can anyone tell me what the command is for the Users and Groups tool?
[02:27] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: lol thx...
[02:27] <jasoncohen> erikp, sudo users-admin
[02:27] <erikp> jasoncohen: thanks!
[02:27] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: i just don't understand why the audio_decoder wouldn't work...
[02:27] <jasoncohen> erikp, it's in system > administration
[02:28] <jasoncohen> erikp, all the gnome tools have the same naming convention- for example the network tool is network-admin
[02:28] <trebuchet> LinuxJones: will the 32bit pipe take affect only after reboot?
[02:28] <GMachine_24> treb... I must have missed what you said about your comp... is the I/O support @ 32-bit?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, if your sound is working ok and you have the dvd decoding software installed and the associated codecs you whould be ok. You have the decss decoding software properly installed ?
[02:28] <enkidu> list #channel
[02:28] <enkidu> hmm
[02:28] <dausech> I've tried to change the /etc/environment file adding JAVA_HOME but doing this, gnome crashes after typing my pass at login
[02:29] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: decss??
[02:29] <erikp> jasoncohen: I don't have a panel... I just installed ubuntu, but I can't log in to a normal gnome session, only the failsafe terminal.  And I can't run any gnome apps.  Something with gnome is hosed.
[02:29] <trebuchet> it wasn't, but it is now
[02:29] <jasoncohen> erikp, damn, is it with all users? maybe your user account is screwed up
[02:29] <jasoncohen> have you tried creating a new user?
[02:29] <GMachine_24> ok
[02:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know where i can find sim city for linux?
[02:29] <erikp> jasoncohen: I haven't tried... one sec.
[02:29] <trebuchet> i think it had an effect on the video playback but i'm not so sure
[02:30] <erikp> jasoncohen: (this was after a fresh install though, so I doubt it will matter.. but I'll try)
[02:30] <GMachine_24> well, i'm going to reboot and mess with my bios settings and see if i can get totem to work.
[02:30] <NoHope> hi all
[02:30] <Razor-X> this'll take some getting used to, compared to BitchX
[02:30] <NoHope> I installed Ubuntu, but I'm having problems...
[02:30] <Razor-X> but everything's in one, happy, convenienient environment ;)
[02:30] <LinuxJones> trebuchet, you can add it to a script
[02:31] <Razor-X> NoHope: shoot
[02:31] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, what irc client are you using now?
[02:31] <NoHope> I modified the xorg.conf and hadn't made a backup.
[02:31] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: erc
[02:31] <Mobius> what program do you guys reccomend for DVD playback
[02:31] <NoHope> jasoncohen, XChat, by Windows.
[02:31] <daniel776> when i try to open music player it tells me i can't
[02:31] <Razor-X> NoHope: I think he was addressing me ;)
[02:31] <NoHope> jasoncohen, sorry, message wrong.
[02:31] <jasoncohen> ah, the windows xchat client has aspell support. i wonder when the linux client will get that
[02:31] <NoHope> Razor-X, no problem.
[02:31] <daniel776> it says something about gst-register
[02:31] <trebuchet> add what to a script? setting the drives to 32bit?
[02:31] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: I'll bet you could compile that in
[02:31] <Razor-X> NoHope: what's the problem with Ubuntu?
[02:32] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, how?
[02:32] <NoHope> Razor-X, I modified the xorg.conf and I don't know how to return to the default.
[02:32] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: compilation, that's how
[02:32] <erikp> jasoncohen: nope, I just added a new user and tried to log in, but I just get a dark ground screen with a cursor.  The panel, nautilus, etc fail to start.  No error messages; nothing.
[02:32] <NoHope> Razor-X, and I see there is no adsl-setup...
[02:32] <jasoncohen> erikp, do you have permission problems?
[02:32] <NoHope> Razor-X, how to connect to the internet?
[02:32] <Razor-X> NoHope: is there an xorg.bak, or xorg.conf~ or something?
[02:32] <jasoncohen> erikp, are you out of space on your HD? df -h
[02:32] <trinidad> Ubuntu is great IMHO!  I have completely switched over, however, I am still looking for add-ons to xchat which do similar things that xdccklipper does for mIRC in Windows.  Can anyone recommend anything?
[02:33] <Razor-X> try calling adsl-setup from a terminal
[02:33] <Razor-X> mIRC.... *shudders*
[02:33] <Ninwa> trinidad, Check xchat.org 's plugin list.
[02:33] <NoHope> Razor-X, uhm... I didn't realize that... I will see when I return to Linux... well... and about internet? How to connect?
[02:33] <erikp> jasoncohen: no, it's a new 80gig drive with just Ubuntu on it.
[02:33] <erikp> jasoncohen: what kind of permission problems?
[02:33] <SDFH_Linux> trindad what os did you use before?
[02:33] <Razor-X> I couldn't stand mIRC the first time I saw it, HydraIRC is my favorite GUI client on all platforms, if I was stuck on GUI, i'ld use WINE to run HydraIRC
[02:33] <trinidad> windows, then SuSE
[02:33] <jasoncohen> erikp, like, something you need to read or write to is owned by root
[02:34] <jasoncohen> that should have been fixed by creating a new user though
[02:34] <jasoncohen> you said this is from a fresh install?
[02:34] <daniel776> when i open music player or CD player i get an error saying that their is no registery and i should run gst-register
[02:34] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, you need libdvdcss2 it's an decryption library that enables you to watch copy-protected dvd's
[02:34] <Razor-X> NoHope: like I said, you can call adsl-setup from the terminal
[02:34] <SDFH_Linux> you like ubuntu better than suse
[02:34] <erikp> jasoncohen: yeah, I just installed in on an empty hdd
[02:34] <NoHope> Razor-X, but there is no adsl-setup...
[02:34] <trinidad> SDFH_Linux: yes I do
[02:34] <Razor-X> NoHope: you mean, in the menus?
[02:34] <jasoncohen> erikp, make sure you have space on your HD. if / is full, you can get weird problems like this
[02:34] <jasoncohen> erikp, what does df -h show for /
[02:34] <Razor-X> the menus don't dictate everything on the machine, by far ;)
[02:34] <trinidad> SDFH_Linux, too many issues with SuSE and my sound card
[02:34] <SDFH_Linux> just curious what made you get off windows?
[02:34] <NoHope> Razor-X, menus? I didn't see that...
[02:34] <Razor-X> hey tiglionabbit ;)
[02:34] <NoHope> Well, I will try and them I return here... thx1
[02:34] <Razor-X> NoHope: wait, there's no X?
[02:35] <Razor-X> as in, no GUI?
[02:35] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: I've switched from BitchX
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: really?
[02:35] <NoHope> Razor-X, there was, but I modified xorg.conf and couldn't enter no more.
[02:35] <trinidad> SDFH_Linux, Because I got bored and then scared from all the pirate software I had.
[02:35] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: not to irssi, mind you
[02:35] <NoHope> see ya! thx!
[02:35] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: [:-(
[02:35] <SDFH_Linux> what were you scared of?
[02:35] <trebuchet> i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci
[02:35] <erikp> jasoncohen: dd -h says I have 67 gigs free on /
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: aw, why not?  What did you switch to?
[02:35] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: *sigh* Xine blew ubuntu up again...
[02:35] <Razor-X> trinidad: I used to be scared of illegal software too... when I was 8 ;)
[02:36] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: erc
[02:36] <jasoncohen> erikp, heh, i gues it's not that
[02:36] <erikp> (df, rather)
[02:36] <MidNightRaVeN> LinuxJones: is there anyway to "Uninstall" it per se?
[02:36] <LinuxJones> MidNightRaVeN, goto www.ubuntuguide.org and have a peek.
[02:36] <jasoncohen> erikp, what errors do you get?
[02:36] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: sudo apt-get remove xine
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: apt-get remove
[02:36] <Razor-X> and good riddance to it ;)
[02:36] <Razor-X> !vlc
[02:36] <erikp> jasoncohen: none... it's really wierd.
[02:36] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[02:36] <MidNightRaVeN> thx =)
[02:36] <jasoncohen> erikp, you could try starting gnome directly from a console (after killing gdm) with gnome-session
[02:36] <erikp> jasoncohen: I just get a blank brown screen.  And when I try to start GNOME apps nothing happens.
[02:36] <Razor-X> that's what I reccomend, meself, and I rarely reccomend GUI apps
[02:36] <trinidad> SDFH_Linux, "scared" may be to harsh.  Rather, I felt guilty.  When I learned that every and anything ever produced for Windows could be found and cracked, I got addicted to doing it.
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> !info vlc
[02:37] <trinidad> SDFH_Linux, too easy
[02:37] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[02:37] <erikp> jasoncohen:  do I just do killall gdm?
[02:37] <Razor-X> trinidad: I don't quite understand your logic
[02:37] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: hmmm, never saw that
[02:37] <jasoncohen> erikp, ctrl -alt - f1 , sudo killall gdm
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> well I gotta go, brb
[02:37] <jasoncohen> erikp, then gnome-session
[02:37] <trinidad> I feel guilty because I don't pay
[02:37] <Razor-X> wow, BitchX has given me a muscle memory for tab-complete, backspace, type colon
[02:37] <Razor-X> and it's hard to break out of that in erc, which auto does that for you
[02:37] <Lufusol> Interesting... grub keeps .. forgetting what it's supposed to load
[02:37] <trinidad> I don't contribute to the coder who earns his money through coding
[02:37] <Razor-X> trinidad: you've fallen to the light side
[02:37] <trinidad> so I moved to free software
[02:37] <trinidad> :)
[02:38] <Lufusol> is anyone else having problems with grub after a clean install?
[02:38] <trinidad> I have a family Razor-X, I understand the need to earn money.
[02:38] <trebuchet> i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci
[02:38] <Razor-X> and? ;)
[02:38] <trinidad> ;)
[02:38] <trinidad> I think you know what I mean
[02:38] <SDFH_Linux> well you will notice trinidad that its much more stable
[02:38] <Razor-X> even if I don't have the former, and I don't need the latter, it's not going to stop me for working for my math Ph.D.... or the software
[02:38] <Razor-X> ;)
[02:39] <erikp> jasoncohen: I do have a ton of gdmplay and aplay processes... like 10 of each, and ps -Al says the gdmplay processes are on WAIT... not sure if that means anything.
[02:39] <Razor-X> brb
[02:39] <trinidad> I must say that pirating software has gotten me to where I am today as far as familiarity with software I use at work
[02:39] <MidNightRaVeN> after you "uninstall" it... should it say "Package xine is not installed, so not removed"? Or should it say it's removing the package?
[02:39] <trinidad> In that respect, I appreciate the underground "scene"
[02:40] <Razor-X> back
[02:40] <Razor-X> ya know that?
[02:40] <SDFH_Linux> what i like a lot in linux is that there isnt so much advertising and such
[02:40] <trinidad> Without them providing the software, I could have ended up dead.  I'm from L.A., ex gang-banger, turned engineer
[02:40] <trinidad> :)
[02:40] <Razor-X> I think i'm going to maximize me Eterm to the whole desktop
[02:40] <SDFH_Linux> on the programs
[02:40] <SDFH_Linux> gaim has none
[02:40] <Razor-X> SDFH_Linux: that's because of the open mentaility
[02:40] <Razor-X> ahhh, that feels nice
[02:40] <Razor-X> a nice, open, wide terminal
[02:40] <erikp> jasoncohen: when I start gnome-session I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:40] <Razor-X> albeit, my background picture a tad bit stretched
[02:40] <nalioth> Razor-X: why not maximize it to cover your head?
[02:40] <Razor-X> i'll just get a different one, a larger one
[02:41] <Razor-X> nalioth: nope
[02:41] <Razor-X> with emacs, like, everything I do is now in terminal
[02:41] <Razor-X> and my screen is shared with two channel
[02:41] <Razor-X> *channels
[02:41] <trinidad> Nice talking with you all...
[02:41] <trinidad> I'll be back from time to time for support if I need it
[02:41] <MidNightRaVeN> why won't it uninstall xine =( ?
[02:41] <trinidad> Thank you all
[02:41] <trinidad> Later
[02:41] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: what's the error?
[02:42] <MidNightRaVeN> nothing... it just says it isn't installed so it can't uninstall it... and i can still run xine through Run Application
[02:42] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[02:42] <Razor-X> then delete xine ;)
[02:42] <Razor-X> locate xine
[02:42] <MidNightRaVeN> lol but where would it be?
[02:43] <Razor-X> XDDD
[02:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> goes to build a windows 98 machene just for his old games >.<
[02:43] <Razor-X> no no no, type that in a terminal
[02:43] <Quentusrex> The default session manager won't let me select KDE
[02:43] <Quentusrex> how to I change this?
[02:43] <Razor-X> and it'll find the directory that xine is located in
[02:43] <Quentusrex> when I log in and try to choose something other than Gnome, there are no other choices.
[02:43] <chrissturm> Quentusrex, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X what kinda ftp would you recommend for nubs?
[02:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and yes it's for a lan
[02:44] <Quentusrex> What if I wanted to use something other than KDE? or Gnome? like xfce?
[02:44] <Razor-X> ftp client?
[02:44] <edgardo> Hola!
[02:44] <chrissturm> Quentusrex, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[02:44] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: =/ I found it... how do i get rid of it?
[02:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i want a server on here
[02:44] <Quentusrex> ok
[02:44] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: rm /path/to/xine
[02:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> something easy to use and simple to set up
[02:45] <toresbe> hey guys
[02:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi ^_^
[02:45] <toresbe> I'm at debconf5 right now :)
[02:45] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: lemme see mine, hold on
[02:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k
[02:45] <toresbe> Mark Shuttleworth is here :)
[02:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is in here?
[02:45] <nalioths_dog> Aerebus: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:46] <toresbe> no, as in, Debconf, the debian conference
[02:46] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: lol but when i located it, it came up with other stuff that isn't xine as well... so will it delete all of that?
[02:46] <trebuchet> i just built this driver for my a/v card... no build error, then when i do make install i get some problems: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister
[02:46] <LinuxJones> toresbe, where ?
[02:46] <toresbe> LinuxJones: Finland
[02:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh
[02:46] <toresbe> I'm going to be filming a talk he's giving
[02:46] <LinuxJones> toresbe, no fool who is he :D
[02:46] <Quentusrex> what is the best way to install a DNS server on ubuntu?
[02:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn i wanted to meet him and thank him for sponsering such an awsome os ^_^
[02:46] <p8ntballer100822> hey im trying to install mysql onto my apache server but when i try to do sudo apt-get install php4-mysql it says pakage not found is there somewhere else i could get the pakage
[02:46] <tmahoneyt11> Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop?
[02:46] <toresbe> LinuxJones: ...the owner of Canonical software..
[02:46] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: vsftpd
[02:47] <toresbe> LinuxJones: he started, and owns, Ubuntu
[02:47] <Razor-X> Linux used to live in my neighborhood ;)
[02:47] <edgardo> Hay lguien que hable epal?
[02:47] <LinuxJones> toresbe, lol what is his irc name :)
[02:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> toresbe let him no i said thanx for the great os
[02:47] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you want to talk to mr shuttlesworth read the community part of the wiki
[02:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cool
[02:47] <nalioth> edgardo: en el #ubuntu-es por favor
[02:47] <socomm> Can one really own FOSS?
[02:47] <MidNightRaVeN> =( =( =(
[02:47] <Quentusrex> indirectly, sure
[02:47] <socomm> edgardo: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:47] <toresbe> LinuxJones: He is not on IRC, presumably
[02:48] <p8ntballer100822> hey i cant install mysql into apache!! it says the pakage isnt there
[02:48] <tmahoneyt11> Can anyone devote some time to helping me get Ubuntu Installed onto my desktop?
[02:48] <p8ntballer100822> could anybody help
[02:48] <trung> hi
[02:48] <LinuxJones> toresbe, damn I thought you meant he was in irc not debconf :D
[02:48] <nalioth> tmahoneyt11: help with what?
[02:48] <trung> how turn off autoupdate?
[02:48] <edgardo> Gracias a todos Hasta pronto!
[02:48] <tmahoneyt11> naloith: I can't seemto make a proper Install Disk
[02:48] <toresbe> Anyway, I'm preparing the laptop that the speakers will be using.
[02:48] <socomm> LinuxJones: By 'here' I think he meant that the man was in his home town.
[02:49] <nalioth> tmahoneyt11: have you checked the md5 sums?
[02:49] <MidNightRaVeN> *blegh* i can't get xine to uninstall and I'm afraid that if I do rm /path/to/xine, that it's going to destroy the other stuff that has the word xine in it....
[02:49] <toresbe> And to get an output on the video projector I need to get TV out on the intel chip
[02:49] <socomm> In toresbe hometown.
[02:49] <blackout> is there an eta on when some of the MD5 sum issues will be fixed?  I've had issues downloading libgcrypt-dev and ldap-utils
[02:49] <socomm> Geez now I'm confused.
[02:49] <p8ntballer100822> can anybody help... is it just me but when i try to install mysql into apache is says pakage not found.
[02:49] <Lufusol> Well I finally found some decent documentation for GRUB and now that i "get it" i don't like it at all.  Time to go back to lilo :P
[02:49] <blackout> or this is a pretty standard ubuntu problem?
[02:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-X and how do i run it?
[02:49] <The_Vox> Lufusol: lol!
[02:49] <LinuxJones> socomm, I missed the line before >> toresbe Mark Shuttleworth is here :)
[02:49] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: it won't
[02:49] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: /path/to/vsftp start ;0
[02:49] <NoHope> hi all
[02:49] <Razor-X> *;)
[02:50] <trung> 128MB is not enough for ubuntu?
[02:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[02:50] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: kk =D as long as it doesn't lol I'm happy
[02:50] <Razor-X> trung: ..................
[02:50] <socomm> trung: It should be enough.
[02:50] <Razor-X> trung: your average OS uses 10 GB
[02:50] <NoHope> Razor-X, I fixed X, but It still without internet.
[02:50] <Razor-X> socomm: uh..... wha?
[02:50] <Razor-X> NoHope: tried to run adsl from the terminal?
[02:50] <nalioth> blackout: the repos are wonky today
[02:50] <p8ntballer100822> i need help with installing mysql into apache could anybody help... it says package not found.
[02:50] <NoHope> Razor-X, but there is no adsl.
[02:50] <socomm> 128 MB should be enough memory to run Ubuntu.
[02:51] <p8ntballer100822> its says could not find package
[02:51] <NoHope> Razor-X, strange...
[02:51] <blackout> nalioth, glad to hear it's not a standard thing - this is my first day with ubuntu?
[02:51] <nalioth> blackout: edit the us. off of the front of your us.archive.ubuntu lines in your sources.list and youll be fine
[02:51] <NoHope> Razor-X, no adsl-setup
[02:51] <Razor-X> NoHope: there's a commandline method too... i'm forgetting
[02:51] <trung> Razor-X, my computer is abit slowly (as FF needs 30mins not starting)
[02:51] <Razor-X> socomm: ahhh, I was assuming HDD space
[02:51] <nalioths_dog> blackout, or use this one
[02:51] <nalioths_dog> blackout: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:51] <p8ntballer100822> can anybody help dammit?
[02:51] <p8ntballer100822> it says package not found
[02:51] <NoHope> People, I have no adsl-setup on my Ubuntu. How to connect to the internet?
[02:51] <socomm> Well most modern distros require 3GB or more for a full installation.
[02:51] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: patience
[02:52] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: you left b4 i could answer you b4
[02:52] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: what is it now?
[02:52] <Razor-X> NoHope: you use PPPoE?
[02:52] <NoHope> Razor-X, yap.
[02:52] <p8ntballer100822> when im trying to install mysql into apache is says package not found
[02:52] <p8ntballer100822> im wondering if i can get it somewhere sle
[02:52] <p8ntballer100822> else*
[02:52] <nalioth> can someone show p8ntballer100822 the backports URLs with LAMP in them?
[02:53] <Razor-X> NoHope: you should use a router (much easier for any OS, trust me), but google for some help with that
[02:53] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: only use these URLs for mysql, then comment them out until you need something else
[02:53] <Quentusrex> Help... a MD5Sum was mismatched
[02:53] <NoHope> Razor-X, But I'm not connected to a LAN...
[02:53] <nalioth> Quentusrex: the repos are down
[02:53] <p8ntballer100822> ?? im using the ubuntu guide
[02:53] <Razor-X> NoHope: does it matter? ;)
[02:53] <socomm> Quentusrex: Redownload the ISO.
[02:53] <nalioth> !ubguide
[02:53] <ubotu> I heard ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[02:53] <blackout> nalioth, wonderous - thanks.  that worked just fine
[02:53] <Quentusrex> I want to install xfce4
[02:53] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: your first mistake
[02:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit i can't find the path to it
[02:54] <NoHope> Razor-X, I thought router only existed on a LAN...
[02:54] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: it says that /path/to/xine doesn't exist
[02:54] <Zodiac> What is the best player for DVD playback?
[02:54] <Zodiac> Totem Xine?
[02:54] <nalioth> people, i need the URLs to the backports that have LAMPs
[02:54] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: but Xine still works fine...
[02:54] <Discipulus> Zodiac, GXine
[02:54] <trebuchet> what do i need to fix this build error?: unknown symbol videobuf_dvb_unregister
[02:54] <Quentusrex> If the repo's are down. How do I install xfce4?
[02:54] <Zodiac> How do I get it?
[02:54] <nalioth> y'all know mysql, and those other 3 things that make up LAMPs
[02:54] <Zodiac> Is it in the guide?
[02:55] <p8ntballer100822> what... am i not supposed to use the user guide..?
[02:55] <Discipulus> Zodiac, sudo apt-get install gxine
[02:55] <Razor-X> Quentusrex: they aren't down
[02:55] <Discipulus> Zodiac, the guide is terrible, don't use it
[02:55] <nalioths_dog> Quentusrex: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:55] <Razor-X> remove the "us." from all your repos
[02:55] <nalioth> Quentusrex: use those repos
[02:55] <Zodiac> damn
[02:55] <nalioth> Kentoo: can you turn that off please?
[02:55] <p8ntballer100822> anywhere else to dl mysql for apache
[02:55] <Razor-X> haha, erc doesen't auto-away
[02:56] <The_Vox> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/  <--- very cool stuff :)
[02:56] <Razor-X> which means, I won't be away forever anymore! muahahahahaha!
[02:56] <golgor> anyone familiar with apache?
[02:56] <The_Vox> Razor-X: you using erc?
[02:56] <Razor-X> The_Vox: yeah
[02:56] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: i'm tryin to find out for you
[02:56] <Razor-X> the scrolling input line takes a little getting used to, though
[02:56] <p8ntballer100822> ok
[02:56] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: any clue why I can't get rid of that file?? rm /path/to/xine didn't do anything...
[02:56] <p8ntballer100822> thanks
[02:56] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: be patient
[02:56] <The_Vox> Razor-X: that's the one thing I don't do in emacs....erc drives me crazy
[02:56] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: did you literally type in /path/to/xine ?
[02:56] <Razor-X> The_Vox: hah
[02:57] <Zodiac> ok I did the apt-get gxine
[02:57] <Zodiac> Now what?
[02:57] <Razor-X> Zodiac: why do you want xine?
[02:57] <The_Vox> Razor-X: and the other emacs irc clients all suck planets through capillary straws...so I use xchat :)
[02:57] <MidNightRaVeN> yea... i'll try again =/
[02:57] <Razor-X> !vlc
[02:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[02:57] <Razor-X> !info vlc
[02:57] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[02:57] <NoHope> Razor-X, well... a router is a computer which share internet with other computers, isn't it?
[02:57] <Zodiac> DUNNO....
[02:57] <Razor-X> The_Vox: I used BitchX previously
[02:57] <Razor-X> NoHope: not just
[02:57] <The_Vox> Razor-X: BX is sooo 80's lol! I stoped using BX long ago :)
[02:57] <trebuchet> i've got a pinnacle mirovideo dc50 a/v capture card i'd like to get working... its detected as Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC in lspci
[02:57] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: ............
[02:57] <Zodiac> Also..
[02:57] <Razor-X> The_Vox: I do almost everything in command-line
[02:58] <BeefTube> is ther4e a 64bit kernel for SMP systems? I have 2 processors and 2 gigs ram.... TIA :)
[02:58] <Razor-X> my emacs is terminal-only, no xemacs crap
[02:58] <The_Vox> Razor-X: moved to epic, then tried erc for a while, then to xchat
[02:58] <Zodiac> What packages do I need for mp3 playback>
[02:58] <Zodiac> ?
[02:58] <nalioths_dog> p8ntballer100822: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:58] <auk> has anyone here gotten md5sum mismatch errors on trying to install packages?
[02:58] <NoHope> Razor-X, I can't find information at google...
[02:58] <golgor> depends on what player you use Zodiac
[02:58] <The_Vox> Razor-X: I use emacs on X....nothing beats X for keeping 50 terminals open :)
[02:58] <Razor-X> BeefTube: yes there is, apt-cache search linux and look through the kernels
[02:58] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: ravencorp@reavencorp:/$ sudo rm /path/to/xine/
[02:58] <MidNightRaVeN> rm: cannot remove `/path/to/xine/': No such file or directory
[02:58] <BeefTube> ok cool 8)
[02:58] <BeefTube> thanks
[02:58] <Razor-X> The_Vox: X is overrated ;)
[02:58] <Zodiac> What is the best player?
[02:58] <Razor-X> I use X.... but not X specifically
[02:59] <Razor-X> Zodiac: VLC
[02:59] <BeefTube> winamp under WINE LOL
[02:59] <Razor-X> BeefTube: no way
[02:59] <BeefTube> jokeing
[02:59] <The_Vox> Razor-X: I said that for many years...but I like to have a pretty bound woman as my wallpaper, which is a PITA to do on console :)
[02:59] <Razor-X> i'm assuming you don't mean bound as in 'in bondage'
[02:59] <Razor-X> because if you do.... *cough*
[02:59] <vgui> hi
[02:59] <Razor-X> and I have a nice terminal background meself
[02:59] <trung> MidNightRaVeN, so it deleted before
[02:59] <golgor> anyone familiar with apache?
[02:59] <matt_> i'm having problems enabling DRI in X
[02:59] <Zodiac> Okay how do I go about getting it?
[02:59] <golgor> i need help
[02:59] <Razor-X> which did hamper my productiity for a while
[02:59] <matt_> anybody know anything about that
[03:00] <The_Vox> Razor-X: uhm...do a /whois on me, it should answer your q :)
[03:00] <SDFH_Linux> what is the best program to log into another linux machine?
[03:00] <socomm> ssh
[03:00] <socomm> vnc, maybe?
[03:00] <trung> MidNightRaVeN,  ah change 'path/to' to a real path :)
[03:00] <auk> ssh
[03:00] <Zodiac> how do I install VLC
[03:00] <Razor-X> sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:00] <The_Vox> Zodiac: sudo aptitude install vlc
[03:00] <socomm> `apt-get install vlc'
[03:00] <auk> md5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone??
[03:00] <golgor> Zodiac, use your packagemanager
[03:00] <Razor-X> The_Vox: I tend not to tell others about aptitude
[03:00] <golgor> or as socomm says
[03:00] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: sswh
[03:00] <nalioth> shicracp
[03:00] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: ssh
[03:00] <Razor-X> only because people get confused on occasion
[03:01] <MidNightRaVeN> trung: lol o
[03:01] <golgor> apache anyone?
[03:01] <SDFH_Linux> do you have to setup something on the other linux box for it to let you in?
[03:01] <socomm> Granted that you got all repos enabled on your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:01] <Zodiac> Well...
[03:01] <socomm> SDFH_Linux: You'll need a ssh client.
[03:01] <Razor-X> SDFH_Linux: do you have SSH setup?
[03:01] <auk> golgor: i've installe dapache
[03:01] <The_Vox> Razor-X: I'm instilling on myself the habit of using aptitude, so I try to forget apt exists lol!
[03:01] <Zodiac> with VLC, what package will allow mp3 playback?
[03:01] <Razor-X> it's not gonna be like OMG, there's a computer next to me... I love you!
[03:01] <SDFH_Linux> i dont think i do
[03:02] <trung> MidNightRaVeN, why o?
[03:02] <Razor-X> The_Vox: I've already done that
[03:02] <SDFH_Linux> have ssh setup
[03:02] <MidNightRaVeN> trung: cuz lol i thought i was just suppose to literally put /path/to/xine in there
[03:02] <socomm> !restricted
[03:02] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <socomm> Zodiac: Follow the link above.
[03:02] <Razor-X> socomm: why are you insisting he use xine?
[03:02] <The_Vox> Razor-X: I've been using ubuntu for 5 days...spent 5 years doing "urpmi this" :)
[03:02] <golgor> auk, query
[03:02] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: every ubuntu install has ssh
[03:02] <Razor-X> VLC is far superior
[03:02] <SDFH_Linux> k
[03:03] <auk> golgor: huh?
[03:03] <Razor-X> SDFH_Linux: do you have sshd setup on the other machine?
[03:03] <SDFH_Linux> dont think so
[03:03] <SDFH_Linux> let me check
[03:03] <socomm> I'm more of a mplayer man.
[03:03] <Razor-X> cplay meself
[03:03] <Razor-X> although, I may switch to emms
[03:03] <Razor-X> cplay+vlc, may switch to emms, rather
[03:03] <BeefTube> is it legal for me to advertize Free ubuntu Linux ..... and have client just pay me for the time to install it? I will let them know it is free and that they can do it by themselves if they want to... TIA
[03:03] <Razor-X> if I do, I won't need screen any longer
[03:03] <Razor-X> it'll feel weird
[03:04] <trung> MidNightRaVeN, ok :)
[03:04] <The_Vox> hehehe
[03:04] <Razor-X> BeefTube: yes, it is
[03:04] <Danar> Zodiac: xmms is good for mp3s. it has mp3 capability built in
[03:04] <nalioth> BeefTube: you may be paid for your professional support services regarding linux
[03:04] <delltony> anyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great
[03:04] <socomm> BeefTube: Yes, as long as you don't charge for the software.
[03:04] <BeefTube> Cool... I will be sure to show them how to donate too if they like it 8)
[03:04] <Razor-X> i've used screen for so long... it's become reflex
[03:04] <Danar> vlc & xine are more for videos
[03:04] <auk> md5sum errors w/ apt-get, anyone??
[03:04] <socomm> You could always charge for support and the media, also labor.
[03:04] <socomm> Etc, etc ...
[03:04] <The_Vox> BeefTube: that's what I live of...installing/configuring/admin'ing linux for SMEs
[03:04] <vgui> woooooiiii
[03:04] <BeefTube> cool!
[03:05] <BeefTube> Cool :)
[03:05] <nalioth> socomm: what is the media charge? .05$? lol
[03:05] <nalioth> auk: repos are wonky
[03:05] <Danar> Zodiac: xmms is like winamp
[03:05] <nalioth> auk: use the dogs
[03:05] <BeefTube> I am going to save the world, 1 linux install at a time 8)
[03:05] <nalioths_dog> auk: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:05] <Razor-X> socomm: it's like Vanderbilt
[03:05] <MidNightRaVeN> trung: any clue what the path for xine might look like? cuz I'm not sure...
[03:05] <Razor-X> free boat ride... but you have to pay for lunch
[03:05] <Danar> BeefTube: heh. good luck. :)
[03:05] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: open a terminal
[03:05] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: type "which xine"
[03:05] <BeefTube> thanks
[03:06] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: opened
[03:06] <Razor-X> free Linux... i'm changing youfor air breathed, time taken, anxiety caused, eye-fluid usage, etc.
[03:06] <Danar> BeefTube: might want to go with mass deployment though ;p
[03:06] <auk> nalioths_dog: that sources.list is mine
[03:06] <fossa> hi
[03:06] <nalioth> Razor-X: thats windows charges
[03:06] <BeefTube> heh... I will clone myself 8)
[03:06] <auk> and fujiko's
[03:06] <fossa> i'm having a problem with a sed command. can someone help?
[03:06] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: ahhhh
[03:06] <nalioth> auk: you are not using us.archive.blah?
[03:06] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: how does it know that....
[03:06] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: it's smart
[03:06] <golgor> can i in some way check if there is anything using certain ports from my comp?
[03:06] <fossa> setenv CNS_ARCH `echo ${CNS_ARCH} | sed -e 's/_g77//g'`
[03:07] <fossa> and it returns with an error, sed: -e expression #1, char 11: Invalid range end
[03:07] <toresbe> Anyone here know how to set up the i810 driver for tv out?
[03:07] <bigfoot1> how do i know how much memory a program takes when I run it?
[03:07] <jtgameover> why doesn't xmms seem to remember its skin and settings every time i log in?
[03:07] <nalioth> bigfoot1: use top
[03:07] <SDFH_Linux> so how i setup sshd
[03:07] <auk> naliopth; yes, i am!
[03:07] <nalioth> bigfoot1: from a terminal
[03:07] <rob^> whats the easiest way to change file associations?
[03:07] <BeefTube> advertizement will say something like " free Ubuntu linux with every geek rental.... "
[03:07] <Danar> BeefTube: step 1 - pwn lots of boxes & turn them into zombies. step 2 - install linux on them. step 3 - use them to pwn every other win-box and put linux on it. step 4 - ? step 5 - profit?
[03:07] <Razor-X> Jimbob: cuz it sucks ;)
[03:07] <nalioth> auk: then take a closer look at the link the dog sent you
[03:07] <socomm> jtgameover: Perhaps you got the wrong persmissions set on your .xmms
[03:07] <Razor-X> Beep-Media-Player is better for Winamp-ness
[03:07] <socomm> ~/.xmms
[03:08] <Thorrn4> hello all!!
[03:08] <MidNightRaVeN> howdie
[03:08] <BeefTube> hi
[03:08] <bigfoot1> nalioth, will top compare the difference between XMMS and Rythymbox? I'd like to know which takes up less memory.
[03:08] <auk> oh
[03:08] <socomm> This usually happens when you run .xmms as a different user for the first time, I'm guessing your ran it as sudo and thus the super user owns .xmms not you.
[03:08] <Discipulus> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[03:08] <jtgameover> hmmmm
[03:08] <Razor-X> Discipulus: hahaha, so do we all
[03:08] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: is /usr/bin/xine the right file to remove to get rid of xine totally?
[03:08] <jtgameover> iwill check it out, thank you
[03:08] <Razor-X> I love my emacs too
[03:09] <Danar> xmms ownz beep-whatever :p
[03:09] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: why do you want to get rid of it?
[03:09] <Razor-X> Danar: the latter is based off the former
[03:09] <jtgameover> uh oh
[03:09] <nalioth> Danar: bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms
[03:09] <Razor-X> nalioth: because he feels it useless
[03:09] <jtgameover> it says "sudo: unable to lookup tanpc via gethostbyname()"
[03:09] <Danar> actually, i haven't used it :p
[03:09] <jtgameover> earlier i did "sudo hostname tanpc"
[03:09] <Razor-X> nalioth: it's more than that
[03:09] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: *sigh*.... it keeps stalling the system and won't play the DVDS... i was thinking of trying to uninstall it and try a different media player
[03:09] <Danar> but i like xmms...
[03:09] <jtgameover> because my hostname was something obscure
[03:10] <Razor-X> Danar: many people use non-standard things in Linux
[03:10] <Razor-X> especialy power users
[03:10] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: so install totem-gstreamer, and leave the poor xine binary alone
[03:10] <bigfoot1> nalioth, if bmp is a gtk2 port of xmms, what is xmms itself?
[03:10] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: you know... in Linux you don't have to uninstall it
[03:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: gtk1 era, i expect
[03:10] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: why though?
[03:10] <fossa> cpu graph?
[03:10] <Danar> xmms is like free winamp.. for linux
[03:11] <fossa> no wait, that's processing not ram
[03:11] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: because, you don't ;)
[03:11] <bigfoot1> and ubuntu hoary is gtk2?
[03:11] <Razor-X> nalioth: it's much more than just gtk2 xmms
[03:11] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: lol
[03:11] <nalioth> bigfoot1: the current gnome uses gtk2, yes
[03:11] <nalioth> Razor-X: i heard you the first time
[03:11] <bigfoot1> Danar, if xmms is like free winamp, then what is beep media player like?
[03:11] <nalioth> Razor-X: i use laymans terms quite a bit in here
[03:11] <Razor-X> nalioth: heh
[03:11] <Razor-X> ok ok
[03:11] <nalioth> Razor-X: simplified explanations
[03:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: we are not all as smart as you
[03:12] <Razor-X> I generally try and do the bloddy exposition
[03:12] <jasoncohen> damn, in order to restore hoary's version of libgcc1 after using backports, a user would have to uninstall most of gnome as well as evolution, openoffice.org2, mozilla, mozilla-firefox, abiword etc. (379 MB in all).
[03:12] <Razor-X> you understand what you will
[03:12] <Razor-X> *bloody
[03:12] <jasoncohen> so much for not backporting libraries - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=246867#post246867
[03:12] <Razor-X> hmmm, it's getting hard to manage two conversation panes
[03:12] <jasoncohen> backports mozilla-firefox & mozilla-browser depend on libgcc1 4.0.0-7 which isn't in hoary. that's the cause of the issue
[03:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: so open a couple more
[03:13] <Razor-X> I generally manage quite a few, but not split in one screen
[03:13] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: are you here?
[03:13] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: read what jasoncohen said above re backports
[03:13] <bigfoot1> if you had the choice between an .mp3 stream and a .ogg stream, which would you take?
[03:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: sounds like you need a 42" plasma with dvi input, then
[03:14] <Razor-X> nalioth: yes, I do
[03:14] <nalioth> bigfoot1: oggs are f/oss
[03:14] <MidNightRaVeN> kk.... so totem-gstream is already installed... do i use just regular totem then to play dvds
[03:14] <Razor-X> it plays .dvi files natively? ;)
[03:14] <MidNightRaVeN> ?
[03:14] <auk> nalioth: those reps worked to install "pan", while my previous ones did not--what are the "official" reps?
[03:14] <BeefTube> does Ubuntu have cedega in the apt repository?
[03:14] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you only have 'regular totem'
[03:14] <Discipulus> BeefTube, apt-cache search cedega
[03:14] <BeefTube> ok I will try, thanks
[03:14] <bigfoot1> for firefox users here, do you find that after some hours, fx runs slowly, and you'd have to restart it to get it back running smoothly?
[03:15] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: it says in Synaptic that it is already installed though...
[03:15] <Razor-X> yeah
[03:15] <nalioth> auk: when you use archive.ubuntu.com, it hands you off to the next random official server such as gb.archvie.blah
[03:15] <Razor-X> it's called "OMG I LOVE YOUR RAM" syndrome
[03:15] <socomm> BeefTube: Nope.
[03:15] <Razor-X> one of the reasons I switched from Firefox ;)
[03:15] <BeefTube> ok
[03:15] <malakhi> BeefTube, no. Cedega is proprietary software, based on WineX.
[03:15] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: is there a certain way to run it?
[03:15] <socomm> Cedega charges a subscription charge to download it's sofware.
[03:15] <BeefTube> oh!
[03:15] <nalioth> bigfoot1: firefox has major memory holes, use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase instead
[03:15] <BeefTube> I thought we could compile it for personel use
[03:15] <auk> but why would the default reps form install not be correct?
[03:15] <BeefTube> i will just buy it
[03:15] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: when you call totem, it will run totem-gstreamer
[03:16] <bigfoot1> for streaming ogg audio, which program do you guys use/recommend? I have rythymbox, gmplayer (which i feel sucks!), and xmms, etc.
[03:16] <jtan325> what is the correct way to change my hostname?
[03:16] <auk> nalioth: *
[03:16] <Zodiac> God I love Ubuntu
[03:16] <bigfoot1> nalioth, what do you mean memory holes?
[03:16] <nalioth> auk: they are correct, but the US repos are whangered today
[03:16] <Razor-X> Zodiac: hah
[03:16] <trebuchet> damn it
[03:16] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: VLC
[03:16] <auk> ah ha!
[03:16] <Razor-X> VLC streaming is incredibly
[03:16] <Zodiac> uh oh
[03:16] <bigfoot1> nalioth, and will these holes be fixed in the next version of ubuntu?
[03:16] <Razor-X> actually, that was the original reason for VLCs inception, streaming
[03:16] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it 'leaks' memory
[03:16] <Zodiac> I think I messed my DVD playback up
[03:16] <Razor-X> VideoLan Client
[03:16] <socomm> BeefTube: One could compile winex, however cedega is not too hot on people redistributing it's software.
[03:16] <nalioth> bigfoot1: they're not that kind of hole
[03:16] <bigfoot1> nalioth, leak?
[03:16] <socomm> Hence the reason why you'll never fine winex on any repos.
[03:16] <MidNightRaVeN> yikes!
[03:16] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: holes in code where memory stays allocated even if not used
[03:17] <bigfoot1> how can so many people quite at the same time+
[03:17] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:17] <Quest-Master> Netsplit
[03:17] <MidNightRaVeN> what is that?
[03:17] <socomm> Hah, netsplit.
[03:17] <Razor-X> yeah, it's a netsplit
[03:17] <BeefTube> yea ok :)
[03:17] <bigfoot1> what's a netspliT?
[03:17] <MidNightRaVeN> yea =/
[03:17] <auk> bigfoot1: wikipedia
[03:17] <mrzero> MidNightRaVeN: two different irc-servers looses link with each other
[03:17] <Razor-X> it's when the router connecting two servers or a server chain and a server dies
[03:17] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i'm not so technical to expain it, just use an alternative gecko based browser such as the ones i listed above
[03:17] <Discipulus> where can I get the source to winex?
[03:17] <[koji] > *boom*
[03:17] <Razor-X> therefore, the network and the server are isolated from each other
[03:18] <MidNightRaVeN> mrzero: oooo
[03:18] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, will Fx memory holes be fixed in ubuntu 5.10?
[03:18] <Razor-X> but, it's also used as a general term showing that a box is going down
[03:18] <nalioth> bigfoot1: its a firefox problem, not an ubuntu one
[03:18] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: it's not an Ubuntu problem, it's a Firefox one
[03:18] <jtan325> anyone know of the correct way to change a hostname? not simply typing "hostname ..."
[03:18] <Zodiac> Guys, what do I want for DVD playback??
[03:18] <auk> wht's a FF problem?
[03:18] <bigfoot1> maybe if we tell firefox/mozilla about this problem, they will fix it.
[03:18] <nalioth> auk: firefox
[03:18] <auk> what is the problem?
[03:18] <langolier> does anybody have some helpful hints on getting my sudo modprobe zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on lubuntu?
[03:18] <nalioth> bigfoot1: and maybe you'll buy everyone in the channel a beer
[03:19] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: it's known
[03:19] <Ninwa> jtan325, changing the hostname file?
[03:19] <Ninwa> /etc/hostname
[03:19] <nalioth> auk: firefox has many
[03:19] <Razor-X> I'm tired of all the bleating Firefox fanboys anywho
[03:19] <ColonelKernel>  whats the current kernel used by ubuntu?
[03:19] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: when i use Totem with the gstream it just freezes...
[03:19] <auk> what is the problem?
[03:19] <Razor-X> and fangirls
[03:19] <fujiko> netsplit o.O
[03:19] <Quest-Master> Hehe, back again
[03:19] <bigfoot1> nalioth, firefox has many what?
[03:19] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: is your file format valid?
[03:19] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: what you are trying to watch?
[03:19] <nalioth> bigfoot1: PROBLEMS
[03:19] <jtan325> Ninwa, is that all i have to do?
[03:19] <socomm> Hipsters with their starbucks and firefox browsers.
[03:19] <bigfoot1> nalioth, ok.
[03:19] <auk> i love firefox
[03:19] <jtan325> change what's in the hostname file?
[03:19] <Danar> jeeze, i leave and this happens?
[03:20] <nalioth> bigfoot1: try a linux native browser
[03:20] <nalioth> Danar: every1 left with you
[03:20] <bigfoot1> okay, nalioth. but i will miss the extensions in firefox. sniff sniff
[03:20] <vgui>     gdrmyukgj,gj,t
[03:20] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: just regular dvd's.... Matrix, Master and Commander, and Gladiator
[03:20] <auk> nalioth; such as?
[03:20] <langolier> i want to get my zoran zr36067 chipset based a/v capture card working on ubuntu. can anybody help?
[03:20] <Danar> i never left :p
[03:20] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: have you installed libdvdcss2?
[03:20] <vgui> kisss my ass
[03:20] <fujiko> i love firefox+adblock too ^^
[03:20] <vgui> fuccckkker
[03:20] <Danar> er, i 'left' physically
[03:20] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: you mean, no BR2?
[03:20] <Quest-Master> Kick please :)
[03:20] <nalioth> auk: ask your question plainly, and you will get answers
[03:20] <Quest-Master> rofl
[03:20] <auk> damn!
[03:20] <Danar> yikes
[03:20] <Razor-X> fujiko: Opera doesen't need extensions, it does everything by itself
[03:21] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth what is libdbddcss2?
[03:21] <nalioth> fujiko: bigfoot1 adblocking doesnt require an extension
[03:21] <fujiko> i love pain and suffering
[03:21] <Razor-X> with an executable size 1/3 less than UPX'd Firefox, it gets 8x the job done
[03:21] <Danar> Razor-X: yes it does
[03:21] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: what's BR2?
[03:21] <auk> opera is bloated
[03:21] <socomm> Adblock+flashblock == <3
[03:21] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: to decode your dvd, you need libdvdcss2
[03:21] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: Battle Royale 2 ;)
[03:21] <Quest-Master> Opera is commercial eww
[03:21] <Danar> Razor-X: there's plenty of things opera is lacking
[03:21] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: lol no
[03:21] <auk> yeah
[03:21] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: think that'll fix it??
[03:21] <Danar> opera is very good, but firefox is better for most people
[03:21] <Razor-X> Danar: such as?
[03:21] <auk> i tried opera, and couldn't stand it
[03:22] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: one of the best movies of all time, short to only EoE
[03:22] <vgui> cxncvddd
[03:22] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: fix what? YOU can install libdvdcss2
[03:22] <Danar> Razor-X: well, there's like a thousand extensions
[03:22] <misfit_toy> mmm mm good by doggies Jed I've done it again, pork ribs hot texas style with baked potatoes and beans.
[03:22] <socomm> Opera is a QT app if I'm not mistaken.
[03:22] <Danar> Razor-X: want a list? go to extensionsmirror.nl
[03:22] <Razor-X> Danar: which take up CPU usage
[03:22] <Razor-X> and RAM
[03:22] <Danar> Razor-X: hardly
[03:22] <Quest-Master> Opera costs money, Firefox doesn't. Who wants to pay for a freaking browser nowadays, come on?
[03:22] <Razor-X> which I only have 256 MB and 1.6 ghz of
[03:22] <auk> dnaar: lol
[03:22] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: i feel ashamed to say that i have never seen it then...
[03:22] <Danar> Razor-X: many extensions are only a few K
[03:22] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: OMG OMG i'm too cheap to buy stuff!!11!! ;)
[03:22] <auk> STOP!!
[03:22] <auk> man that is annoying!
[03:23] <Quest-Master> Netsplit <3
[03:23] <bigfoot1> nalioth,  but other extensions, such as gmail notifier or webmailcompose (mailto: links are directed to web version of gmail, rather than to evolution) will be missed. Can i get these  feauters in the browsers you've cited?
[03:23] <nalioth> i personally use galeon and kazehakase, both gecko based gtk2 browsers
[03:23] <socomm> Jesus, this netsplits are getting annoying.
[03:23] <Quest-Master> Razor-X.. ha-ha.
[03:23] <Razor-X> auk: that's called netsplits buddy ;)
[03:23] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: i just mean fix the problem of Totem and Xine both stalling and not reading DVDs
[03:23] <BeefTube> why is there a DVD and a CD install for AMD64? which one is optimum ?
[03:23] <nalioth> i personally find firefox bloated and slow
[03:23] <Razor-X> same here
[03:23] <auk> Razor-X: i know
[03:23] <nalioth> extensions are nice, but.. .. ..
[03:23] <Quest-Master> Firefox IS pretty terrible in general
[03:23] <vgui> uio;tgp97;gbv08jyhp89ug
[03:23] <Quest-Master> But
[03:23] <vgui> LJLJL
[03:23] <Razor-X> Firefox cannot manage anything more than 8 tabs well
[03:23] <vgui> RYUR
[03:23] <vgui> HKHJFHJD
[03:23] <vgui> FGSCZX VU8746U5
[03:23] <Danar> Razor-X: man, it's a browser. people don't have to pay for browsers, so it's unreasonable to expect them to
[03:23] <Quest-Master> I still haven't found anything better
[03:23] <Quest-Master> Guys
[03:23] <vgui> XVVXVX
[03:23] <vgui> HNCGHGDGH
[03:23] <Razor-X> BeefTube: the pwnage browser
[03:23] <auk> opera is the bloated one, in m yopinion
[03:23] <vgui> HKHHJGOEFP DLW[ERIP
[03:23] <Razor-X> vgui: right, whatever
[03:23] <Quest-Master> Kick vgui please
[03:23] <vgui> DTJTBV
[03:23] <vgui> GHFC ] 
[03:23] <vgui> DGFJ"] 
[03:23] <Danar> Razor-X: just about the only thing opera offers over other browsers is security
[03:23] <BeefTube> yea, lol
[03:23] <vgui> MFFNCXTH/
[03:23] <vgui> JGGHRTY4TRGSFSGWRT] 
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> is there a net install of Ubuntu?
[03:23] <Razor-X> auk: obviously, you don't know about filesize
[03:23] <vgui> FGDVCBVDDTYY
[03:23] <vgui> GJGGJGG
[03:23] <Quest-Master> vgui.. >:
[03:24] <Danar> Quentusrex: terrible how?
[03:24] <NoHope> Razor-X, I'm sorry... Ubuntu must have adsl-setup... what is happening?
[03:24] <auk> gecko does font rendering all by itself
[03:24] <Razor-X> Danar: and a smaller filesize, overhead, and better standards conformation
[03:24] <BeefTube> vgui has a stuttering problem
[03:24] <Danar> Razor-X: not by much
[03:24] <BeefTube> give him a minuet he will spit it out
[03:24] <auk> that takes up space.
[03:24] <vgui> HJFHHJ
[03:24] <Razor-X> I don't have a GB of RAM man
[03:24] <Razor-X> or 120 GB of HDD space
[03:24] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place?
[03:24] <Discipulus> god damn
[03:24] <Razor-X> I have 256 MB of RAM, and 40 GB of HDD space
[03:24] <NoHope> Do you know why my Ubuntu has not adsl-setup? How could I connect to the internet?
[03:24] <Danar> Razor-X: opera isn't fully standards compliant either
[03:25] <Razor-X> Danar: much more so than Firefox
[03:25] <othernoob> NoHope: open a konsole and type pppoeconf. and set up your adsl connection
[03:25] <Danar> Razor-X: hardly
[03:25] <_0kills> hello
[03:25] <Razor-X> othernoob: you're forgetting, he may be using Gnome
[03:25] <NoHope> othernoob, I will try. thx. pppoeconf
[03:25] <Quest-Master> Kornbluth is really terrible right now :x
[03:25] <Razor-X> Danar: not sure what you're smoking
[03:25] <auk> DAnar: opera is hardly as well-off as FF
[03:25] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: You here??
[03:25] <Razor-X> the Opera team consists of W3C members
[03:25] <nalioth> hello
[03:25] <BeefTube> you guys get java virtual machieen for AMD64 ubuntu? I need that for my Lip sync-ing software.
[03:25] <bddebian> Heya nalioth
[03:26] <Quest-Master> Opera really doesn't beat Firefox standards-wise now
[03:26] <_0kills> hey, i just installed RealPlayer10 for Linux. anyone know the command to launch it?
[03:26] <Razor-X> it does
[03:26] <Razor-X> most definitely
[03:26] <Quest-Master> Maybe a few months ago, but not now.
[03:26] <AnObfuscator> Um, this is odd -- I'm trying to use apt to install xfce4, and ubuntu keeps asking me to insert the hoary PPC install CD.
[03:26] <Quest-Master> It doesn't, Razor-X.
[03:26] <Razor-X> Firefox renders things using nonstandard support
[03:26] <othernoob> Razor-X: and the Gnome version of Ubuntu doesn't have pppoeconf?
[03:26] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: =/ i can't find libdvdcss2 on synaptic... is there any other place?
[03:26] <BeefTube> groovy
[03:26] <AnObfuscator> only, I have no idea where my install cd is...
[03:26] <hondje> AnObfuscator: Probably need to comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:26] <Razor-X> othernoob: it doesen't have Konsole
[03:26] <bddebian> AnObfuscator: Do you have CD sources in your sources.list?
[03:26] <AnObfuscator> anyone know what's up with this?
[03:26] <othernoob> Razor-X: lol well okay, terminal, shell, anything..
[03:26] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, what makes you say that Fx can't do more that 8 tabs well?
[03:26] <Razor-X> hehehe
[03:27] <bigfoot1> BeefTube, what's dillo?
[03:27] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: because of the RAM it takes
[03:27] <bddebian> bigfoot1: A browser
[03:27] <Quest-Master> Opera takes just as much.
[03:27] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: the best browser in the world ;) for small browsing
[03:27] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: not at all
[03:27] <Quest-Master> In my tests on this machine with both Opera and Firefox, they both consume the same RAM and run at the same speeds.
[03:27] <langolier> damn, this sucks.. i need a new video card for battlefield 2 and it'd help for linux... and i need a new a/v capture card for support for any recent os... and i need a new lcd tv for adequate viewing surface
[03:27] <Quest-Master> On both Windows XP and Ubuntu as well. ;)
[03:27] <langolier> life's rough...
[03:27] <BeefTube> bigfoot1 it is a fast little browser... http://www.dillo.org/
[03:27] <Jimbob> Did someone ask for me earlier?
[03:27] <socomm> Dillo is a lightweight browser.
[03:27] <langolier> :-P
[03:27] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: you must be smoking something real foreign, numerous test results agree, Opera is second-least among full-featured Linux browsers, preceded only by Konquerer on a KDE box
[03:28] <othernoob> Quest-Master: with Firefox being capable of just as much? ;)
[03:28] <bddebian> AnObfuscator: Did you "hear" me? :-)
[03:28] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, what do you mean by "small browsing"?
[03:28] <Razor-X> plus, Firefox renders slowly
[03:28] <Quest-Master> Razor-X, link me to these recent test results then?
[03:28] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: less features, my mistake
[03:28] <auk> Razor-X: why don't you start learning lynx, then?
[03:28] <BeefTube> bigfoot... to get it just do a ---- sudo apt-get install dillo
[03:28] <Razor-X> auk: I know lynx, thank you
[03:28] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: There are fixes for slow rendering with a few quick changes of the options.
[03:28] <BeefTube> then dillo from any command line
[03:28] <bigfoot1> Quest-Master, how did you find out how much ram a program takes? did you use top?
[03:28] <Razor-X> and I know emacs, and I know a shitload of console stuff
[03:28] <Razor-X> i'm not afraid to be called a terminal user
[03:28] <nalioths_dog> wow my master is on another split server
[03:28] <Razor-X> because I _am_ one
[03:28] <Quest-Master> top, System Monitor, and Ctrl-Alt-Delete on Windows
[03:28] <Quest-Master> ;)
[03:29] <auk> RAzor-X: i tested loading times, and opera was slower
[03:29] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, why would you want to use a browser with less features?
[03:29] <pmai> hi
[03:29] <Razor-X> auk: on my box, it's the contrary
[03:29] <Quest-Master> Plus, some people don't like to pay for browsing the web.
[03:29] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: because all features aren't always used
[03:29] <Quest-Master> And some people might not want warez either.
[03:29] <Quest-Master> *cough*
[03:29] <othernoob> Quest-Master: you don't have to pay for Opera
[03:29] <auk> exactly
[03:29] <nalioths_dog> bigfoot1, you can add features to all gecko browsers
[03:29] <auk> yeah, if you want ads!
[03:29] <vgui>  UY97TY9[PTNT97[PMJJHHJGIUGYGYYGHVHYNHFRXGTJJKKLLPKPO8JF45W45CCD4D4GGYUHJMNJHIOH0H'0UJ-IPIIIHUHUGYFFYBNJHVCZSFJKJUGDFSDKHFYMJHGGTRRRUT65DHHHG
[03:29] <bigfoot1> when i asked about netslpit, one person said wikipedia. Don't you think answers.com is better?
[03:29] <Quest-Master> othernoob: Sorry, but personally, I don't want ANYTHING obstrusive in my viewing experience of the internet.
[03:29] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: some people also would like to pay for a Lambourghini than get a fre car from '78
[03:29] <pmai> i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?
[03:30] <AnObfuscator> Oh, duh, I figured it out.
[03:30] <vgui> HNO'OUHJHHBBHHUJIJOPJK0PJ90IU[PJKO0[0'HY8B P9T8 CFFYHBJJKKJUIODFOPDFOHOOFSOGIOIOIGIOUIUISGSIGUSI9GUS9GUIG
[03:30] <Razor-X> much slowing
[03:30] <Aerebus> whats the command to rename ?
[03:30] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: sorry, but you're comparing apples and oranges now. That argument about cars is void. ;)
[03:30] <vgui> I909UUUUIIKJIOPSUGJ90SUG09SSSSSSSAGYUA] SGU0-AGUJA0S=GSA=0GUSAGUS=0AGUXVJOX-UHB897ASDTG6RTWUI4TUFHUUUUUCJUFSYGSRTHEAHJ7U
[03:30] <pmai> i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?
[03:30] <Razor-X> you need a swap of 1 GB
[03:30] <Aerebus> ;p
[03:30] <bigfoot1> Quest-Master, what do you mean by warez? and what warez are you referring to?
[03:30] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: doubt it ;)
[03:30] <Quest-Master> Aerebus: mv oldfile newfile
[03:30] <nalioth> Aerebus: do a 'man mv'
[03:30] <bddebian> Hello pmai
[03:30] <BeefTube> so you dont get hijacked, and spyware when looking up porn...
[03:30] <BeefTube> plus its fast
[03:30] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: software paid for illegally
[03:30] <langolier> that looks like it ought to be pretty easy to crack
[03:30] <vgui> IHJIIIHIUY7UY79T6BVG6O7VF5OC KLOJJIIDSFIOG IDOGYU9ET8YUG9WU80TMW79NV  8ryg[sr89tyqwty=Q424868R7WTW4I'STAkihj[dghitshkmkjhjhbbhvvyufr5t7edttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[03:30] <Quest-Master> bigfoot1: Razor-X has implied that he warez'ed his Opera.
[03:30] <nalioths_dog> this is surreal
[03:31] <vgui> khji'hdfkkklk
[03:31] <Razor-X> BeefTube: Opera does that and more
[03:31] <vgui> uysdgy
[03:31] <pmai> hi bddebian?
[03:31] <jasoncohen> rob^, right click on the file in nautilus, choose properties and then choose an application in open with
[03:31] <pmai> i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?
[03:31] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: did I say that?
[03:31] <Danar> bigfoot1: answers.com takes from wikipedia, IIRC
[03:31] <vgui> iiuyyj
[03:31] <langolier> if its encrypted data instead of just blather
[03:31] <Razor-X> no
[03:31] <Aerebus> mv is move
[03:31] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: You sure did imply it. Want me to copy and paste the line where you did?
[03:31] <Aerebus> whats rename? :)
[03:31] <Razor-X> I bought it, along with Total Commander, two of the best apps ever
[03:31] <BeefTube> BRB, my chatzilla is broken...
[03:31] <nalioths_dog> Aerebus, yes, and also 'rename'
[03:31] <chrissturm> Aerebus, man builtins
[03:31] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: yes please, go ahead
[03:31] <vgui> ksjgishgirtusryt8rytii5riosaoigs ygsvnhzxhvbbysedgf::;sud;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[03:31] <bigfoot1> Danar, yes, answers.com has the wikipedia entry plus more. that's why i thought answers.com was better.
[03:31] <nalioths_dog> Aerebus, you use "mv" to rename stuff
[03:31] <bddebian> Aerebus: mv is synonymous with rename.  There is no rename in GNU/Linux
[03:31] <Razor-X> since implications are almost always correct, after-all ;)
 Quest-Master: OMG OMG i'm too cheap to buy stuff!!11!! ;) <-- hmm, I wonder what the wink here implies?
[03:31] <vgui> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
[03:32] <pmai> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:32] <pmai> oh
[03:32] <Quest-Master> vgui, get out. Please.
[03:32] <nalioth> god i wish i had ops
[03:32] <vgui> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[03:32] <auk> yeah
[03:32] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: my ";)" is the equivalent of the :) smilie
[03:32] <Danar> bigfoot1: not if they're copying from wikipedia. wikipedia will always be updated more frequently
[03:32] <BeefTube> heh, so that is that that button does!
[03:32] <Razor-X> nalioth: /ignore ;)
[03:32] <nalioth> channe residents, you can /ignore vgui
[03:32] <BeefTube> just /ignore him
[03:32] <squinn> he left.
[03:32] <pmai> yes
[03:32] <BeefTube> !!
[03:32] <nalioth> Razor-X: no, i'd rather +b vgui
[03:32] <ubotu> BeefTube: I haven't a clue
[03:32] <LokeDK> If I run an application from a konsole I get.. f.eks with gedit .. (gedit:32584): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:32] <pmai> i have RAM128 and swap's size 8MB, it causes slowly?
[03:32] <Razor-X> nalioth: same here
[03:32] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: Should've used the :) smiley then I suppose to avoid disambiguation, right? :)
[03:32] <nalioth> Razor-X: and then put a foot in his posterior
[03:32] <Razor-X> pmai: much slowdown
[03:33] <Razor-X> you need a 1 GB swap
[03:33] <BeefTube> 0o
[03:33] <Danar> what's with all the attacks on open source project irc channels?
[03:33] <HillTop> What is the command to hide a poster?
[03:33] <othernoob> Razor-X: that's not really true.
[03:33] <bigfoot1> nalioth, why do you use two browsers?
[03:33] <Danar> #debian, #firefox, #ubuntu, and who knows what else
[03:33] <pmai> Razor-X okie
[03:33] <Razor-X> othernoob: what isn't?
[03:33] <othernoob> Razor-X: that he'd need 1GB swap
[03:33] <bigfoot1> danar, doesn't answers.com use the same current info that's on the wiki?
[03:33] <nalioth> bigfoot1: because i run ubuntu on a PPC, and things work a little differntly on PPC ubuntu
[03:34] <ColonelKernel> is there a net install of Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Razor-X> othernoob: he does for something like Open-Office, or software compilation
[03:34] <pmai> Razor-X how resize exist parttion FAT32?
[03:34] <bigfoot1> nalioth, so on your non-ppc comp, what do you use?
[03:34] <langolier> well, the answer should be obvious, danar... freely available stuff anyone can edit is inherantly evil
[03:34] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: yeah, there is
[03:34] <Quest-Master> Danar: Mainly because I'm trying to protect open-source software's reputation here while being compared to a closed, proprietary, commercial application.
[03:34] <ColonelKernel> so I dont have to download 4 cds?
[03:34] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, nice
[03:34] <Quest-Master> ColonelKernel: Nope
[03:34] <Danar> bigfoot1: no, i think they download the database once in a while...
[03:34] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: I don't follow the OSS Flag like a blind idiot
[03:34] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i don't own anything BUT apple hardware
[03:34] <bigfoot1> Danar, ok, now i see what you're saying.
[03:34] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: it's only 1 CD ;)
[03:34] <Danar> langolier: heh
[03:34] <ColonelKernel> does ubuntu Razor-X the whole thing?
[03:34] <Danar> pmai: gparted
[03:35] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: Neither do I. I use Photoshop all the time because it was designed from a designer's perspective and Gimp not.
[03:35] <ColonelKernel> sorry you cought me unawares in the middle of a sentence
[03:35] <Razor-X> yes, all in one cd
[03:35] <svu> anyone having sound on G5 systems?
[03:35] <Danar> pmai: i think you might need to defrag it first though
[03:35] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: good then
[03:35] <Razor-X> because I know quite a few who'ld lynch you for that
[03:35] <Razor-X> or me for using Opera
[03:35] <misfit_toy> any suggestions for a good gui DVD burner that will do cue/bin? k3b won't do it, nor graveman, nor gnomebaker...
[03:35] <Danar> pmai: boot to the ubuntu livecd if you have it, and 'apt-get install gparted' and resize it with that
[03:36] <Razor-X> Opera, though, is the only piece of moneyed software I use, and two nonfree applications that are free-as-in-beer
[03:36] <ColonelKernel> pmai, you WILL need to defrag, and I'd use diskkeeper pro in windoze to do it - its 1000x better than the system defrag utility
[03:36] <auk> razor: we won't lynch you for usign opera, jsut for bashing firefox ;-)
[03:36] <Quest-Master> Razor-X: Except, I'm simply trying to point out that Firefox isn't as terrible as you make it out to be. :) Don't want to lynch you or anything, we're buds! Everyone is in #ubuntu besides people like vgui..
[03:36] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: I had a bad experience with that and NTFS
[03:36] <othernoob> misfit_toy: i had no problems with cue/bin and k3b. only did it once though.
[03:36] <bigfoot1> BeefTube, do you use dillo yourself? if so, only dillo? or do you use other browsers-?
[03:36] <nalioth> svu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:36] <pmai> Danar yes i got these cds from free order
[03:36] <BeefTube> I use lynx also
[03:36] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, with gparted or with diskeeper pro?
[03:36] <Razor-X> auk: well, I'm forgetting the amount of firefox fanboys-and-girls there are in here ;)
[03:36] <misfit_toy> othernoob, but to DVD?
[03:36] <Razor-X> BeefTube: right on! ;)
[03:36] <othernoob> misfit_toy: yes
[03:36] <BeefTube> heh :)
[03:37] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: the latter
[03:37] <auk> razor-x: that was low
[03:37] <Danar> pmai: good. boot from the livecd, open a root terminal, and run 'apt-get install gparted' and use that
[03:37] <svu> nalioth, thanks
[03:37] <misfit_toy> othernoob, then I must be missing something...hmmm
[03:37] <nalioth> you guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support
[03:37] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: and my NTFS wouldn't resize in qtparted
[03:37] <nalioth> then you'll be manly men
[03:37] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, thats odd, I use it on my windows partition and it rocked
[03:37] <Quest-Master> rofl nalioth.
[03:37] <Razor-X> nalioth: yeah, it's awesome too
[03:37] <Danar> BeefTube: elinks is better  :)
[03:37] <misfit_toy> othernoob, was it a movie?
[03:37] <Razor-X> I know TwiBright links and lynx
[03:37] <BeefTube> ok I will try it when i install this afternoon, thanks for the tip :)
[03:37] <Danar> gparted is better than qtparted, in my experience
[03:37] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, thats REALLY odd - of course I did my rezise with knoppix - but that shouldnt make any difference
[03:37] <Razor-X> i've gotten used to erc now, thanks to the odd debate
[03:37] <iceraven> I am trying to play with apache... once it is installed I used nautilus to browse to the directory on the HDD, however I don't have any rights to that directory as a user and can't add any content, what should I do?  Log in as root somehow or give myself rights to that directory somehow?
[03:37] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: mine went whacky on me
[03:38] <othernoob> misfit_toy: yes it was a dvd image in cue/bin
[03:38] <nalioth> Danar: gtk vs qt?
[03:38] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, its only gone wacky on me if I tried to resize it too much
[03:38] <svu> nalioth, there is no /dev/dsp on my system. and even /proc/asound/devices shows just timer
[03:38] <Razor-X> and I had to manually disable 5 symantec services from XP with cryptic names, thanks to Symantec's crappy software
[03:38] <golgor> whats the command to create dirs from terminal? :$
[03:38] <pmai> Danar thanks you, i am going to boot
[03:38] <Danar> nalioth: i believe so
[03:38] <auk> nalioth: let me guess oyu use kde?
[03:38] <concept10> Anyone know how to increase brightness on laptop screen?
[03:38] <Razor-X> I had a hard time resizing, after that it was a breeze
[03:38] <nalioth> svu: i'm sorry, i only run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook
[03:38] <ColonelKernel> yeah symantec software is the pits
[03:38] <Danar> pmai: gl
[03:38] <Razor-X> auk: anything wrong with using KDE, and I hear he uses E ;)
[03:38] <ColonelKernel> I use AVG in windoze
[03:39] <ColonelKernel> I think avg even has a linux release
[03:39] <nalioth> Danar: gparted is gtk, and qtparted is qt
[03:39] <Razor-X> my dad installed Symantec
[03:39] <Quest-Master> AVG is excellent
[03:39] <Danar> ColonelKernel: symantec (norton) had some good dos tools
[03:39] <svu> nalioth, I see. It seems G5 is not supported yet:(
[03:39] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to create dirs from terminal? :P
[03:39] <Danar> nalioth: yeh
[03:39] <Razor-X> qtparted is better than gparted, tohugh
[03:39] <BeefTube> OMG i forgot.. Ubuntu uses gnome by default!!! EeeeeeeeeW!!!
[03:39] <bddebian> svu: So fix it :-)
[03:39] <ColonelKernel> Danar, yeah but dos is dead
[03:39] <Quest-Master> golgor: mkdir dir
[03:39] <Razor-X> BeefTube: heh
[03:39] <nalioth> svu: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <golgor> Quest-Master, thx
[03:39] <Quest-Master> golgor: dir being the name of the directory in the above context
[03:39] <nalioth> auk: i use the terminal mostly
[03:39] <Danar> Quest-Master: actually, avg sucks
[03:39] <Danar> ColonelKernel: not really...
[03:39] <nalioth> auk: with gnome in tha background
[03:40] <langolier> where would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me?
[03:40] <auk> razor-x: no, but kde currently has a monopoly and is growing.
[03:40] <Quest-Master> auk: Subjective ;)
[03:40] <bddebian> BeefTube: I used to think that but I'm really getting used to gnome
[03:40] <bigfoot1> nalioth, you wrote "you guys need to compile your own links with graphics and javascript support." What are you talking about?
[03:40] <Danar> Quest-Master: check virusbtn.com
[03:40] <ColonelKernel> well thats true, my mom still uses dos 6.22 or something like that on her server at her work for her outdated bookeeping program
[03:40] <Razor-X> auk: monopoly?
[03:40] <nalioth> bigfoot1: the 'manly men' part was a joke
[03:40] <auk> a monopoly stifles creativity and quality
[03:40] <ColonelKernel> of course she has to pay someone 90 bucks an hour to maintain her server
[03:40] <nalioth> bigfoot1: you can google "twibright links" and you'll be directed to twibright labs
[03:40] <BeefTube> yea, gnome is cool... I will just pop in XFCE afteter the install 8)
[03:40] <Razor-X> auk: what do you mean by monopoly? I know Government theory well enough
[03:40] <bddebian> Uhm since when was DOS 6.22 an NOS?
[03:40] <bigfoot1> nalioth, so you were talking about twibright links?
[03:41] <qt2> is there a simple way to switch from gentoo to ubuntu?
[03:41] <Razor-X> and contrary to most OSS users, i'm a slight totalitarion-pro person
[03:41] <svu> bddebian, thanks for the idea :)
[03:41] <ColonelKernel> nice , so ubuntu uses apt-get?
[03:41] <nalioth> bigfoot1: their source code for links has the ability for you to choose to enable graphics and javascript (and lots more)
[03:41] <ColonelKernel> that rocks
[03:41] <Danar> yes
[03:41] <auk> razor-x: "government theory"?
[03:41] <cyphase> hey everyone
[03:41] <Danar> ColonelKernel: it's based on debian
[03:41] <bddebian> Hello cybersystem
[03:41] <Razor-X> auk: yes, government theory
[03:41] <bddebian> Err cyphase even
[03:41] <auk> most linux users use kde
[03:41] <svu> nalioth, yeah, I browsed around - and found only negative info :(
[03:41] <ColonelKernel> Danar, right on, im downloading it now
[03:41] <bigfoot1> nalioth, so this is a browser you're takling about?
[03:41] <bddebian> Damn tab completion
[03:41] <auk> the great majority, at least
[03:41] <Razor-X> auk: and most linux users use xine
[03:41] <Zodiac> Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for the DVD playback
[03:41] <nalioth> svu: then ask uncle google (groups)
[03:41] <Razor-X> *ubuntu users
[03:41] <Danar> ColonelKernel: :) you can also have CDs sent to you for free
[03:41] <ColonelKernel> I use mplayer
[03:41] <nalioth> bigfoot1: yes, and a damned fast one
[03:41] <Razor-X> and most ubuntu users use many default ones
[03:41] <Danar> ColonelKernel: free shipping too
[03:41] <Razor-X> look at me, do I? no
[03:42] <ColonelKernel> Danar, thats cool, I saw that
[03:42] <Razor-X> Eterm, emacs, trackball, Dvorak
[03:42] <nalioth> bigfoot1: have you used links, or lynx or elinks?
[03:42] <langolier> where would i put a driver so modprobe could install it for me?
[03:42] <ColonelKernel> I didnt know it was free shipping too though
[03:42] <bigfoot1> nalioth, so many browsers: twilight, dillo, hakikaze, galeon, epiphany. which is good, i wonder?
[03:42] <Zodiac> Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback?
[03:42] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i used to use lynx 6 years ago.
[03:42] <bigfoot1> but now i use firefox.
[03:42] <svu> nalioth, as I see, "not quite there yet" in 2.6.12 - so 2.6.10 is hardly any better...
[03:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: well, the twibright flavored links, is a text mode browser (all *links are) that has graphics capability (if compiled in)
[03:43] <Razor-X> there's a keyboard driven Gecko based browser by the Mozilla team, I hear
[03:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: so it works in the terminal or xserver
[03:43] <nalioth> svu: yes, the price you pay for early adoption (of linux)
[03:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: I compiled mine with X with graphics
[03:43] <Razor-X> :(
[03:43] <nalioth> svu: what G5 do you have?
[03:43] <Razor-X> I may need to remedy that
[03:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth, but i run the gui, should this be something that interests GUI/Desktop users?
[03:43] <Zodiac> Guys?
[03:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: yes i know
[03:44] <bddebian> langolier: /etc/modules?
[03:44] <nalioth> bigfoot1: you can go get the source, learn a little about compiling, and have a blazing fast minimalist graphical browser
[03:44] <Zodiac> Hey guys, how do I set the DMA for DVD playback?
[03:44] <svu> nalioth, dual power G5 (you know, the linuxonpower contest prize)
[03:44] <bddebian> Zodiac != male? :-)
[03:44] <Zodiac> Dag sorry
[03:44] <nalioth> svu: i shouldnt have asked... <drool>
[03:44] <BeefTube> another cool thiong about dillo... is is easyer to type from the commandline... you can do things like.. dillo www.google.com or dillo slashdot.com.... you can do it from commandline with firefox too but it is long to type... mozilla-firefox www.google.com.... phew My fingers are tired now 8)
[03:44] <langolier> damn it... doesn't look like the zoran codec supports my zoran card :(
[03:45] <Razor-X> BeefTube: you can do that with lynx too ;)
[03:45] <poningru> yeah dillo is awesome
[03:45] <nalioth> svu: why arent you running OSX + fink + darwinports?
[03:45] <Zodiac> Does anyone know?
[03:45] <Razor-X> but yeah, dillo pwnz
[03:45] <nalioth> BeefTube: you can do that with ANY browser
[03:45] <auk> beeftube: symlink mozilla-firefox to soemthing else
[03:45] <Razor-X> nalioth: not all (most probably)
[03:45] <nalioth> BeefTube: nobody has told you about aliases yet?
[03:45] <Razor-X> I haven't encountered one that doesen't, though
[03:45] <BeefTube> Cool 8)
[03:45] <BeefTube> Dam Small linux has a script to make Dillo have tabs and java i think
[03:45] <bigfoot1> nalioth, okay maybe in the future, i'll try terminal-based browsers. but for now, i'd like to find something to replace this memory-leaking Fx. what's the best alternative among the 3 mentioned: galeon or epiphany or kazehakase?
[03:45] <NoHope> hi all!
[03:46] <nalioth> Razor-X: 99% of the programs on this box are command-line-driveable
[03:46] <Razor-X> BeefTube: yeah, it's a dillo patch that's commonly available
[03:46] <NoHope> I'm finnaly on Ubuntu!!!
[03:46] <BeefTube> cool
[03:46] <svu> nalioth, :) because I need x10 stuff, some kernel modules. and I want to be able to do gnome development as well
[03:46] <nalioth> bigfoot1: try galeon
[03:46] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: do you use Gnome, or KDE?
[03:46] <ColonelKernel> lol BeefTube your nick is a riot
[03:46] <BeefTube> I am gonna get it 8)
[03:46] <Razor-X> or another Window Manager?
[03:46] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, i use gnome
[03:46] <nalioth> svu: x10?
[03:46] <djm62> bigfoot1: I think epiphany is the official gnome browser
[03:46] <qt2> is there a simple way to install ubuntu paralell to gentoo?
[03:46] <BeefTube> thanks 8)
[03:46] <svu> nalioth, yeah
[03:46] <Razor-X> then Galeon would be good
[03:46] <Razor-X> qt2: of course
[03:46] <nalioth> svu: i'm ignorant, what is it?
[03:46] <Danar> BeefTube: symlink mf to firefox, and use tab completion. and you don't need 'www'
[03:46] <svu> nalioth, namely, "wish". It is about home automation
[03:46] <bigfoot1> djm62, what's the importance of something being the official Gnome browser?
[03:47] <nalioth> svu: oh those X10 things
[03:47] <BeefTube> Sweet, thanks for the tip 8)
[03:47] <bigfoot1> djm62, in other words, does something being "official" mean much?
[03:47] <svu> nalioth, exactly :)
[03:47] <nalioth> svu: it doesnt run on osx?
[03:47] <auk> blah
[03:47] <Zodiac> My DVD playback is skipping
[03:47] <djm62> bigfoot1: integration might be a little nicer, and more components might be shared with gnome (decreasing memory footprint)
[03:47] <langolier>  /join #zoran
[03:47] <BeefTube> clean your disk
[03:47] <bigfoot1> i see.
[03:47] <nalioth> bigfoot1: they are all free to try, try them all and keep what you like
[03:47] <poningru> Zodiac: hold on let me get the link
[03:47] <djm62> bigfoot1: these are "mights"...the right one is the one you like best
[03:47] <bigfoot1> djm62, do you use epiphany?
[03:47] <svu> nalioth, it builds some linux kernel modules. I am not particularly interested in porting them to osx :)
[03:47] <Zodiac> cool
[03:47] <nalioth> djm62: that is galeon and epiphany and kazehakase
[03:48] <nalioth> svu: ah
[03:48] <Danar> NoHope: congrats :)
[03:48] <nalioth> svu: <evil grin> how bout qemu?
[03:48] <djm62> bigfoot1: I'm quite happy on firefox, but I have plenty of memory
[03:48] <Razor-X> I may switch Opera if someone presents something better (not Firefox)
[03:48] <qt2> Razor-X, i was thinking installing it on another drive and adding an entry to grub.conf.. :o
[03:48] <bigfoot1> how much memory, djm62 ?
[03:48] <Razor-X> qt2: works
[03:48] <BeefTube> I have 2 dvd rom drives...am i going to have to disconnect one to get grub to install properly? TIA
[03:48] <dapimp53> I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop and the mouse touchpad is not working. I had to plug in a USB mouse. How do I get my touchpad to start working?
[03:48] <djm62> bigfoot1: 512M minus video
[03:48] <poningru> Zodiac: there was a thing that you had to enable for your drive
[03:48] <svu> nalioth, well, I did not think of it really - but why wasting so much efforts to build linux on macos - instead of just using linux?:)
[03:48] <Razor-X> BeefTube: not really
[03:48] <nalioth> qt2: sounds good
[03:49] <poningru> it was called dma or udm or something
[03:49] <BeefTube> Cool :)
[03:49] <poningru> but dont remember or find the link
[03:49] <Razor-X> poningru: dma ;)
[03:49] <vladuz976> hey is anybody in here using gmailfs? i get thie error when trying to mount: fusermount: old style mounting not supported
[03:49] <nalioth> svu: go google qemu and check it out
[03:49] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase a good alternative to firefox? why pay for opera?
[03:49] <poningru> Razor-X: do you have the link to enabling that in a drive
[03:49] <djm62> svu: hardware support on modern PPC platforms is a factor
[03:49] <vladuz976> anybody know what to do here
[03:49] <nalioth> svu: its deliciously evil
[03:49] <poningru> there was a howto for that
[03:49] <Zodiac> What do you mean ponigru?
[03:49] <NoHope> hey, why [apt-get install beep]  doesn't work?
[03:49] <Razor-X> poningru: don't remember offhand, no
[03:49] <poningru> let me go search
[03:49] <svu> nalioth, well, I'll give it a thought...
[03:50] <svu> djm62, other than 3D and sound - it is ok so far
[03:50] <bigfoot1> okay, i've just downloaded dillo.
[03:50] <poningru> found it
[03:50] <poningru> Zodiac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29
[03:50] <uniq> liz4rd: yes?
[03:50] <BeefTube> 73%!!! a few more minuets and  i will be enjoying Ubuntu doing a 1 hour apt-get dist upgrade 8)
[03:50] <nalioth> svu: max out your ram, and run OSX and ubuntu simultaneously
[03:50] <djm62> svu: yeah...some of us like music and quake ;)
[03:50] <poningru> if your drive is new it should help with the skipping
[03:50] <Razor-X> BeefTube: to breezy?
[03:50] <auk> bigfoot1: tell me if you find anything better than firefox
[03:50] <Razor-X> auk: Opera
[03:50] <golgor> anyone got apache and php working?
[03:50] <BeefTube> 0o
[03:50] <bigfoot1> auk, galeon or epiphany or kazehakase?
[03:50] <nalioth> auk: you can use the others yourself, they are free!
[03:50] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:51] <auk> i wasn' talking to you razor-x
[03:51] <BeefTube> heh
[03:51] <Razor-X> auk: does it matter?
[03:51] <svu> nalioth, the point is that I do not _particularly_ need macosx... If only I'll get sound at some point...
[03:51] <Danar> Razor-X: you want something better than opera other than firefox? why?
[03:51] <auk> i've tried galeon and epiphany
[03:51] <bigfoot1> auk, i'm going to download the 3, and see which is nice.
[03:51] <djm62> this is FREE stuff we're discussing
[03:51] <Razor-X> Danar: I said, i'm open to something better
[03:51] <svu> djm62, quake is too old for me:)
[03:51] <nalioth> svu: ok then (was hopin for a guinea pig)
[03:51] <Danar> NoHope: 'doesn't work' doesn't tell us anything
[03:51] <Razor-X> djm62: it matters not for me
[03:51] <Zodiac> hmmm my DMA apears to be on... yet it still skips
[03:51] <Danar> Razor-X: you also said 'other than firefox'
[03:51] <nalioth> Razor-X: try galeon
[03:51] <dapimp53> Can anyone help me with my mouse problems?
[03:51] <djm62> Razor-X: music?
[03:51] <Razor-X> Danar: exactly, because i've already tried Firefox
[03:52] <bddebian> Try Internet Exploder in Wine then.. ;-P
[03:52] <svu> nalioth, :) anyway, thanks for the idea. I am going to try mac-on-linux also
[03:52] <Razor-X> nalioth: it's Gnome based
[03:52] <NoHope> Danar, see the error:
[03:52] <auk> dapimp53: i sure can't
[03:52] <Danar> Razor-X: so you think it's not better. why?
[03:52] <bddebian> MOL?? Ewww :-)
[03:52] <NoHope> root@codeone:/ # apt-get install beep
[03:52] <NoHope> Reading package lists... Done
[03:52] <NoHope> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:52] <NoHope> E: Couldn't find package beep
[03:52] <nalioth> svu: good luck with MOL
[03:52] <auk> bddebian: don't you mean internet exploiter ;)
[03:52] <NoHope> Danar, what could it be?
[03:52] <nalioth> NoHope: dont paste, please
[03:52] <bddebian> auk: Or that :-)
[03:52] <nalioth> NoHope: its called bmp i believe
[03:52] <Danar> NoHope: how about _you_ see the error ;p
[03:52] <Razor-X> Danar: because anything more than 8 tabs is not memory-managed correctly, the number of extensions you need for basic functioning is enormous, and the interface of Firefox feels clunkier than Opera to me
[03:52] <nalioth> Razor-X: so what do you want?
[03:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: firefox isnt native to any platform
[03:53] <svu> nalioth, is it bad?
[03:53] <Razor-X> nalioth: as I said, me no want Firefox ;)
[03:53] <NoHope> nalioth, Danar, the same error for bmp.
[03:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: galeon, kaze~ and epiphany are all gtk2 based gecko browsers
[03:53] <Danar> Razor-X: you might be right about the tabs, but you're wrong about the extensions
[03:53] <poningru> Razor-X: please try the latest firefox
[03:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: then you need to be specific and say "NO GECKO"
[03:53] <Razor-X> Danar: it takes a toll on a 256 MB RAM box
[03:53] <Razor-X> nalioth: NO GECKO
[03:53] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:53] <poningru> dp dev is availble
[03:53] <djm62> opera is OK...I find it "feels better" to use free software
[03:53] <Quest-Master> Can't wait till Mozilla Deer Park is stabilized and then turned to the new Firefox release
[03:53] <Quest-Master> :D
[03:53] <Danar> NoHope: obviously it's not working because you're not using the right package name. try apt-cache search beep
[03:53] <NoHope> nalioth, Danar, I tried with a lot of packages... firefox, gnome, etc... the same error.
[03:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: stick with opera, then
[03:54] <Razor-X> nalioth: mmmkay, heh
[03:54] <nalioth> NoHope: use synaptic
[03:54] <poningru> yeah to each his own
[03:54] <Danar> NoHope: run synaptic and hit refresh
[03:54] <auk> hey, whrer did you come form!
[03:54] <BeefTube> wow, is geko in apt? that is neat... i have been playing in PC linux... verry limmited apt repository... looking forward to ubuntu and shopping for neat new applications
[03:54] <Danar> or reload, or whatever it is
[03:54] <auk> damn you, poningru!
[03:55] <auk> you say one line on every channel i'm on, even on diff servers!
[03:55] <poningru> wtf
[03:55] <BeatYou-zZz> has anyone ever installed koalamud ?
[03:55] <BeatYou-zZz> !info koalamud
[03:55] <ubotu> koalamud: (a distributed MUD server), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.3.2a-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 328 kB
[03:55] <golgor> php and apache anyone?
[03:55] <BeatYou-zZz> golgor what about them ?
[03:55] <BeatYou-zZz> nick BeatYou
[03:56] <BeatYou-zZz> !info gnome-mud
[03:56] <ubotu> gnome-mud: (multi user dungeon client for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.10.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 342 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB
[03:56] <golgor> BeatYou-zZz, i need help getting php to work
[03:56] <Razor-X> BeatYou-zZz: Pokemon Diamond? ;)
[03:56] <NoHope> nalioth, there is no beep. There is no bmp.
[03:57] <dapimp53> grrrrr Why cant I get my touchpad to work nor my wireless internet
[03:57] <nalioth> NoHope: search in synaptic for beep (in package name and content)
[03:57] <BeefTube> going to attempt compileing cinelerra... I need a good video editor for my animations
[03:57] <Danar> NoHope: beep-media-player
[03:57] <Jigoku> yeah, same here with the touch pad.
[03:57] <nalioths_dog> NoHope: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:57] <BeatYou-zZz> golgor you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed ?
[03:57] <Razor-X> is there anything good for encoding/transcoding in Linux?
[03:57] <nalioths_dog> NoHope: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:57] <nalioth> Razor-X: transcode
[03:57] <poningru> rofl
[03:57] <qt2> now then, how do i figure out what grub sees /dev/hdc5 as?
[03:57] <Danar> NoHope: anything in your sources list?
[03:57] <Razor-X> nalioth: is that a program? ;)
[03:57] <golgor> im with php 5.0.4
[03:57] <Razor-X> and what are its features?
[03:58] <nalioth> Razor-X: yes and a good one
[03:58] <Zodiac> damn my volume is maxed out and it is still weak as hell
[03:58] <golgor> just libapache2-mod-php5?
[03:58] <djm62> qt2: it uses its own system, if you do "info grub" you can find it
[03:58] <nalioth> Razor-X: go to its homepage and see what ARENT its features
[03:58] <golgor> BeatYou-zZz, just libapache2-mod-php5?
[03:58] <BeatYou-zZz> golgor: ubuntu doens't have packages for php5 on the repos
[03:58] <djm62> qt2: I think that would be (hd3,6) but check the page
[03:58] <golgor> awww
[03:58] <golgor> easier to set up php4?
[03:58] <golgor> i guess
[03:58] <BeatYou> php5 is unstable anyway ;] 
[03:59] <djm62> qt2: a,b,c are counted from zero, and I think the partitions are as well
[03:59] <golgor> BeatYou, how to remove php5 then? :P
[03:59] <BeatYou> golgor did you just download source for php5 or something ?
[03:59] <BeatYou> how did you install it in the first place
[03:59] <golgor> yea
[03:59] <NoHope> nalioths_dog, yap. It worked. thx!
[03:59] <golgor> BeatYou, i downloaded the source and compiled, installed
[04:00] <golgor> BeatYou, wont work :(
[04:00] <GMachine_24> Anyone know how to solve the virtual link to .ttf file needed for mplayer?
[04:00] <BeatYou> well, there is more to it, you have to link apache2 with php5
[04:00] <BeatYou> in httpd.conf
[04:00] <Jigoku> Anyone that can help a noob get his touchpad working on dell4100 w/ ubuntu?
[04:00] <auk> dell yuck
[04:00] <auk> (sorry)
[04:01] <Jigoku> It's used, and all I could afford... laptop.
[04:01] <siorfin> anyone here know anything about running world of warcraft on cadega
[04:01] <siorfin> cedega
[04:01] <Zodiac> Is Xine-ui different from Totem-XINE
[04:01] <BeatYou> not everyone lives computers auk...
[04:01] <djm62> Jigoku: have you had a look at the hardware wiki (more likely to be on there than for someone in here to have one)
[04:01] <auk> betyou: what do you mena?
[04:01] <BeefTube> http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/    Is this for ubuntu also? I want to master some live cd for my students/clients
[04:01] <BeatYou> nothing
[04:01] <auk> BeatYou: what do you mean?
[04:01] <bigfoot1> kazehakase says i need to download PSM (Personal Security manager) when I went to gmail.com. So how do i get PSM?
[04:02] <nalioth> BeefTube: there is a wiki article on remastering ubuntu
[04:02] <BeefTube> cool :)
[04:02] <BeatYou> golgor: LoadModule php5_module in httpd.conf maybe ?
[04:02] <GMachine_24> you need a download site for ubuntu beef?
[04:02] <nalioth> bigfoot1: install mozilla-psm
[04:02] <Jigoku> oh, ok, thanks.
[04:02] <p8ntballer100822> man... theres alot of flippin sweet programs in the universe
[04:02] <bigfoot1> nalioth, thanks.
[04:02] <golgor> BeatYou, ill try
[04:02] <BeatYou> LoadModule php5_module /path/to
[04:02] <BeatYou> you have to make apache recognize .php also
[04:02] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: wait til you get to the multiverse
[04:03] <dabaR> the universe is without limits.
[04:03] <dapimp53> \quit
[04:03] <poningru> p8ntballer100822: try the multiverse
[04:03] <dabaR> nalioth: multiverse is shit.
[04:03] <BeatYou> golgor: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[04:03] <p8ntballer100822> i feal like its christmas
[04:03] <Kikinator> can anyone help with a java installation problem?
[04:03] <p8ntballer100822> getting all these cool apps
[04:03] <dabaR> Kikinator: many
[04:03] <djm62> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:03] <dabaR> Kikinator: whats up?
[04:03] <p8ntballer100822> how do i get into my the multi universe
[04:03] <p8ntballer100822> ?
[04:03] <djm62> Kikinator: are you following that page?
[04:03] <pink-noob> I'm trying to install the FLAC plugin for BMP, but all the archive file contains, is a .la file and a .so file... Does anyone know where I should start?
[04:04] <Kikinator> I download the plugin, but it doesn't install
[04:04] <nalioths_dog> Kikinator: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:04] <bddebian> p8ntballer100822: Modify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <dabaR> p8ntballer100822: in your sources.list, add multiverse where universe is
[04:04] <nalioth> Kikinator: follow the dog
[04:04] <p8ntballer100822> i marked so much shit its gunna take forever to dl
[04:04] <p8ntballer100822> o i did do that already
[04:04] <bigfoot1> i installed ephiphany, but when i do "epiphany" it says it's not found. what is the command name?
[04:04] <djm62> wow, computing dogs for the uncomputery
[04:04] <p8ntballer100822> i am in the multiuniverse
[04:04] <nalioth> bddebian: he should have official list + backports (p8
[04:04] <dabaR> multiverse
[04:04] <golgor> nope
[04:04] <auk> bigfoot1: epiphany-browser
[04:05] <bddebian> nalioth: :-)
[04:05] <bigfoot1> auk, how do i get epiphany-browser into my main menu?
[04:05] <nalioth> bigfoot1: should be applications > internet > epiphany
[04:05] <BeefTube> heh, I want to make a Xbox ubuntu!! with AdvancedMAME and Xmame, and Xmess, and bring all the joy and delight back to my gameing time... I want to make a arcade cabinate with the Xbox inside as the brains... have all my Xbox games on hard drive somehow so I can choose them from a menu...
[04:05] <auk> bigfoot1: gnome or what?
[04:05] <bigfoot1> auk, gnome.
[04:05] <dabaR> bigfoot1: install it. sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser
[04:05] <auk> tehn what nalioth said
[04:05] <bigfoot1> i installed epiphany. is epiphany different from epiphany-browser?
[04:05] <BeefTube> make a Xbox cluster system 8)
[04:05] <dabaR> yes
[04:05] <auk> no
[04:05] <dabaR> its a game
[04:05] <p8ntballer100822> all these programs are gunna take so long to dl i must of marked like 300 of them
[04:06] <dabaR> auk: ...
[04:06] <nalioth> bigfoot1: you need to install epiphany-browser
[04:06] <auk> bigfoot1: epiphany is a browser epiphany -browser is the command to invoke it
[04:06] <Kikinator> another thing, my root filesystem partition is my largest partition, but it won't let me write anything on it...and for some reason, I can't login as root
[04:06] <bigfoot1> nalioth, so you're saying i downloaded the wrong thing?
[04:06] <auk> oh! you mean you installe dteh package "epiphany"
[04:06] <djm62> Kikinator: that is deliberate
[04:06] <dabaR> auk: epiphany is a game, to install browser, epiphany-browser, after that, from command line epiphany calls it.
[04:06] <NYRanger> hey all.  I just ran Unbuntu from the CD.  Its pretty awesome.  One odd thing though.  its only letting me use a resolution of 640x480.  I have an Intel Extreme Graphics Adapter.  is there a quick fix or should I research it on Google?
[04:06] <dabaR> in fact, I know, I use it.
[04:07] <Kikinator> so how do I login as root?
[04:07] <nalioths_dog> Kikinator: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:07] <DonL> BeefTube, just read this morning about someone in England getting charged by Microsoft for selling modded Xboxes
[04:07] <djm62> Kikinator: being root as a habit is a bad idea, ubuntu has no root user by default
[04:07] <auk> dabaR: yes, i forgot, it's not a bad game actually "a baldrdash clone"
[04:07] <BeefTube> I would not sell them
[04:07] <Kikinator> but I need root in order to use my main partition
[04:07] <nalioth> NYRanger: it can be fixed when you install it
[04:07] <dabaR> boulder dash
[04:07] <ch_604> can anyone help me with my resolution?
[04:07] <Kikinator> it says my account lacks permissions
[04:07] <p8ntballer100822> mmmmmmm mutil universe programs
[04:07] <NYRanger> nalioth: It did not give me a choice though.
[04:07] <dabaR> bald rash is a medical condition ;)
[04:07] <pink-noob> Kikinator: sudo?
[04:07] <bigfoot1> i just did an istall of mozilla-psm, but kazehakase still tells me to get psm.
[04:07] <dabaR> !resolution
[04:07] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:08] <nalioth> NYRanger: at the boot prompt is asks you to press f1 for help or enter to boot
[04:08] <golgor> BeatYou, query
[04:08] <BeefTube> I want to cluster 100 Xboxes together, install linux... and figure out the meaning of life, while I surf for good porn.
[04:08] <dabaR> wtf is kazehakase?
[04:08] <Kikinator> like, I tried mkdir /file    but it said I lacked permissions
[04:08] <nalioth> NYRanger: press f1 or whatever it is and look for video options
[04:08] <jack_> Woher kann man Informationen bekommen, wie man die Zugriffsrechte fr DVD-Ram ndert?
[04:08] <dabaR> sudo mkdir /file
[04:08] <nalioth> dabaR: a japanese made gecko browser
[04:08] <dabaR> <input your password>
[04:08] <auk> dabaR: form context, abrowser
[04:08] <nalioth> !info kazehakase
[04:08] <ubotu> kazehakase: (gecko based web browser using GTK), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 554 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB
[04:09] <Razor-X> after this, I have to try using emms
[04:09] <NYRanger> nalioth: interesting thing.  when i booted of the cd in vmware (weird setup I know) it did give me a choice of resolutions.
[04:09] <BeefTube> ok burning my ISO... be back in  a while while it updates 8)
[04:09] <dabaR> !info kazehakase-psm
[04:09] <nalioth> dabaR: !resolution doesnt work on the liveCD
[04:09] <nalioth> NYRanger: thats because vmware simulated a known video card
[04:09] <dabaR> nalioth: my resolution is fine/:) wouldnt know, + i install ubuntu
[04:10] <bigfoot1> when i installed epiphany, it needed the gecko browser. What is this geko/mozilla browser anyway?
[04:10] <nalioth> dabaR: yes, but his ? concerned the livecd
[04:10] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Wake up man.. :-)
[04:10] <DonL> nalioth, I'm sure I changed res using the live cd.
[04:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: the gecko rendering engine is the heart of mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, galeon, epiphany, blah blah
[04:10] <Triffid_Hunter> bigfoot1: same engine as firefox, different toolbars afaik
[04:10] <dabaR> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whateverserverlivecduses does not work?
[04:10] <BeatYou> !info acm4
[04:10] <BeatYou> !info acm
[04:10] <NYRanger> the ubuntu is very sweet though.  Performs much faster then Fedora does.
[04:10] <ubotu> acm4: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.7-14 (hoary), Packaged size: 859 kB, Installed size: 3736 kB
[04:10] <ubotu> acm: (A multi-player aerial combat simulation), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 5.0-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1180 kB
[04:10] <dabaR> nalioth: camino...
[04:10] <nalioth> DonL: i'm sure you have a recognized video card, also
[04:11] <DonL> Ahh. That may be the case
[04:11] <nalioth> dabaR: camino is for OSX, this is #ubuntu
[04:11] <bigfoot1> so gecko browser is the foundation from which the other browsers build on?
[04:11] <Razor-X> the Gecko Engine
[04:11] <dabaR> #ubuntu, oh sorry,
[04:11] <nalioth> bigfoot1: the engine they run on
[04:11] <Razor-X> not all other browsers, only some
[04:11] <djm62> bigfoot1: gecko is a thing for converting html to the image on your screen
[04:11] <Razor-X> hey dabaR
[04:11] <Razor-X> again ;)
[04:11] <bddebian> wb dabaR :-0)
[04:12] <dabaR> hehe, a reaction.
[04:12] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: remember what i said about comments
[04:12] <djm62> bigfoot1: the concept behind mozilla and firefox is that the browser UI is also written in an xml variant, and rendered by gecko
[04:12] <Razor-X> KHTML also pwnz
[04:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bdebbian i'm just getting ready for bed though
[04:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> forgot i had a dr appt in the morning
[04:12] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Did you have any luck?
[04:12] <p8ntballer100822> yes...
[04:12] <djm62> bigfoot1: whereas in epiphany the UI is in gtk, and only the inside of the browser window is rendered with gecko
[04:13] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I just set it up right now and it worked immediately.. ?? :-(
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bdebbian no i have been tinkering with it for a bit
[04:13] <bigfoot1> oh, sorry, i used the wrong word. I meant mozilla browser. When i installed epiphany, it had to install mozilla browser, as well. my question is: what is this mozilla browser, and why would anyone want to use it ?
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well then i did something wrong
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't yet know what it is
[04:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: which makes gtk based browsers faster under gnome
[04:13] <dabaR> bigfoot1: you really never heard of mozilla?
[04:13] <bigfoot1> for dillo users: do you have https enabled? how did you do that?
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i may have broken ubuntu somehow
[04:13] <linuxpoet> anybody here use modpython?
[04:13] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: That is so strange
[04:13] <bigfoot1> dabaR, i have. it's the folks that made firefox.
[04:13] <djm62> bigfoot1: it's the gecko renderer and enough extra bits to make it a stand-alone browser
[04:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: epiphany and galeon and kaze, all need mozilla for its gecko engine
[04:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i know
[04:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought it was install and go but somehow it's not and i don't know why
[04:14] <qt2> woot, foamy \o/
[04:14] <dabaR> bigfoot1: then why the two questions?
[04:14] <Kikinator> ah, another thing.  Let's say I download a file, how do I write it to my root filesystem?
[04:14] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: How are you trying to hit the samba machine, just with Windows Explorer?
[04:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but i'm gonna go to bed now i will see you laterz
[04:14] <nalioth> Kikinator: use sudo
[04:14] <bigfoot1> dabaR, i just didid'nt understand why another browser was necessary when i asked for epiphany.
[04:14] <Razor-X> Kikinator: root filesystem?
[04:14] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sleep well
[04:14] <Razor-X> you mean, as a root user?
[04:15] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: OK, sorry I took so long getting back on, I got called back in to work half way home!! :-(
[04:15] <Kikinator> so I would copy the file from it's original location then?
[04:15] <dabaR> ok, you asked differently, but yeah, like they said,.
[04:15] <djm62> Kikinator: you might want to resize your /home partition if you find it cramped
[04:15] <auk> firefox is one with the web
[04:15] <DonL> ChurcH_of_FoamY, I think what it does is use the Mozilla engine and put it's own front end on it
[04:15] <dabaR> yes, it sure is.
[04:15] <auk> it uses web languages and code for basic things
[04:15] <auk> like UI
[04:16] <Kikinator> yeah, only 2 GB
[04:16] <Kikinator> XD
[04:16] <Kikinator> do I use fdisk or cfdisk?
[04:16] <bigfoot1> I want dillo to work with https webpages. it said: " *** Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled now ***  If you want to test this alpha support code, just remove line 56 from https.c, recompile and reinstall.(beware that this https support is very limited now)."  How exactly do i do this? please help, fellow dillo users.
[04:16] <nalioth> Kikinator: your choice
[04:16] <Kikinator> or can I switch to windows and use partition magic?
[04:16] <dabaR> cfdisk is a graphical front end to fdisck
[04:16] <dabaR> no c
[04:16] <nalioth> bigfoot1: dillo suX0rs, imho
[04:16] <djm62> Kikinator: yeah
[04:16] <bigfoot1> nalioth, did you say "sucks"?
[04:17] <nalioth> dabaR: what? cfdisk is a curses based fdisk
[04:17] <dabaR> bigfoot1: well, I mean, it tells you right there.
[04:17] <nalioth> bigfoot1: yes i did, dillo imho SUX
[04:17] <Kikinator> oh ok, thanks! ^^
[04:17] <dabaR> nalioth: is it not?
[04:17] <adwait> hey ppl
[04:17] <nalioth> Kikinator: partition magic is always the best
[04:17] <dabaR> yo adwait.
[04:17] <bigfoot1> i am trying kazehakase with gmail. and gmail says "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser." What's up?
[04:17] <Razor-X> it can work Partition Magic
[04:17] <Razor-X> *_Magic_
[04:17] <nalioth> dabaR: cfdisk is a terminal curses fdisk client
[04:18] <aarcane> well, between three trips to the forums, using google of course, two bits of hacked together information, and compiles from source..  well..  wlan works :D
[04:18] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: gmail doesen't specifically support that browser
[04:18] <dabaR> bigfoot1: use a supported browser,.,.
[04:18] <nalioth> dabaR: the only graphical fdisk i know is gparted or qtparted
[04:18] <Razor-X> it supports Firefox and IE and Mozilla because so many people use it
[04:18] <dabaR> curses graphical, same  thing.
[04:18] <dabaR> its a gui
[04:18] <nalioth> bigfoot1: any gecko based browser is gmail compatible
[04:18] <dabaR> just a terminal gui
[04:18] <qt2> is it possible to install ubuntu on another drive from within another distro?
[04:18] <linuxpoet> firefox
[04:18] <Razor-X> daba: there's no such thing as a terminal GUI
[04:18] <nalioth> dabaR: <sigh> no its not an X gui
[04:19] <aarcane> bigfoot1, dillo is an emergency hack and crack browser..  it just does html and nothing else.  no css, no sessions, no cookies.  it does jack shit.  :)
[04:19] <bigfoot1> dabaR, Razor-X, nalioth: you mean kazehakase is not a gecko-based browser?
[04:19] <poningru> just use qtparted
[04:19] <Razor-X> cures is a CLI
[04:19] <poningru> its pretty good
[04:19] <dabaR> well, so arent any osx or windows apps an X GUUI
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> that sounds like links
[04:19] <jtgameover> does anyone know how to use vnc? when i vnc to another box, all i get is an ugly black-white pixels screen with an "X" cursor and i can't do anything
[04:19] <nalioth> dabaR: by your definition, ANY app that runs in a terminal or Xserver is 'graphical'
[04:19] <bigfoot1> aarcane, somebody in this chatroom recommended dillo to me, that's why i downloaded it.
[04:19] <dabaR> same thing.
[04:19] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: that has nothing to do with it, Kazehakase is not specifically supported
[04:19] <Kikinator> is it possible to access an NTFS partition and the files on it?
[04:19] <nalioth> bigfoot1: kaze is gecko based
[04:19] <aarcane> bigfoot1, it's main purpose is as an emergency tool to go google or forum searching when you can't get things working right
[04:19] <nalioths_dog> Kikinator: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[04:19] <djm62> Kikinator: read-only at the moment
[04:19] <dabaR> any app that is object oriented rather than procedural, and makes pictures, yes
[04:20] <bigfoot1> nalioth, if kaze is geckobased, then why can't gmail give me the "full-viewing experience"?
[04:20] <Razor-X> dabaR: a GUI is something different from a CLI, and there are programs that don't use CLI either
[04:20] <Kikinator> but can I copy the files from the NTFS partition to the ext2 partition?
[04:20] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: because it's not specifically supported!!!
[04:20] <bigfoot1> aarcane, i see. i guess i'll be deleting dillo.
[04:20] <dabaR> I mean, I dont know the exact definition, or if it would fit, but, it sure is a gui to me.
[04:20] <nalioth> bigfoot1: because kaze is made by the inscrutable japanese
[04:20] <MidNightRaVeN> hey peeps. What was the program or decoder used to DVDs again?
[04:20] <djm62> bigfoot1: it's a choice on their part, not an intrinsic thing
[04:20] <dabaR> Kikinator: yes
[04:20] <aarcane> Kikinator, you can easily copy files from ntfs --> ext2
[04:20] <nalioth> dabaR: text is graphical
[04:20] <Razor-X> dabaR: in an exact definition, curses is a CLI, X is a GUI, and stuff like cat are just terminal apps
[04:20] <adwait> bigfoot1: it may support all the features but Gmail doesnt know it right? the programmers must have hardcoded the specific HTTP_USER_AGENT responses tht gmail likes
[04:20] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, but nalioth says all gmail is looking for is a gecokobased browser. i'm confused.
[04:20] <marco_> www.yahoo.es
[04:21] <Razor-X> marco_: no
[04:21] <bigfoot1> adwait, gotcha.
[04:21] <malakhi> bigfoot1: kaze doesn't report itself as a supported browser in its HTTP header. Therefore, Gmail does not detect it as a supported browser, even though it uses the same engine as a supported browser.
[04:21] <adwait> now eeven though ur gecko based..they dunno
[04:21] <dabaR> whatever you wanna ccall it.
[04:21] <Kikinator> because there is some files on an NTFS parition that I need but I don't know how to copy them to my /home directory
[04:21] <MidNightRaVeN> what's the decoder used to decode DVDs?
[04:21] <nalioth> dabaR: when one says 'graphical' re computers, one means with a Xserver or other point-and-click-with-mouse interface
[04:21] <bigfoot1> why then was kazehakase a browser that was recommended to me? hmmm.
[04:21] <MidNightRaVeN> something something css?
[04:21] <dabaR> Razor-X: how come you are so exact, where did you get this exact definition?
[04:21] <Razor-X> dabaR: just don't call 'emacs' 'vi', or vice versa
[04:21] <nalioth> bigfoot1: sue me, i've never used it with gmail
[04:21] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i use galeon predominantly
[04:21] <bigfoot1> nalioth, peace, my friend.
[04:22] <bigfoot1> nalioth, okay i'll install that.
[04:22] <bigfoot1> too.
[04:22] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss in backports for one,.
[04:22] <dabaR> Razor-X: just dont get too big of a head.
[04:22] <Razor-X> dabaR: read works on usability and accessibility
[04:22] <Kikinator> oh, maybe a dumb question but...does ubuntu allow you to emerge kde instead of GNOME?
[04:22] <MidNightRaVeN> dabaR: =/ where can i find it? cuz I didn't see it in synaptic?
[04:22] <bigfoot1> what's the command line to uninstall dillo?
[04:22] <aarcane> I erm..  get an error from VFS when I try to boot about no ext3 filesystem..  I have a reiserfs /, and don't know how to....  well, I think you know what I'm saying
[04:22] <malakhi> bigfoot1: you're better off with galeon anyway. kaze has some strange package incompatabilities.
[04:22] <dabaR> backports I said.
[04:22] <djm62> bigfoot1: apt-get remove
[04:22] <dabaR> !backports
[04:22] <ubotu> I heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:22] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get remove dillo
[04:22] <poningru> yes
[04:23] <p8ntballer100822> i must have like 500 apps selected for download
[04:23] <bigfoot1> malakhi, okay, i'll remove dillo and kaze. I'm in Japan actually. I wonder if three ar eany bnefeits for using a browser made by japanese people.
[04:23] <dabaR> Razor-X: that was not a sentence I can understand. read works on usability...
[04:23] <DonL> nalioth, galeon also uses mozilla, doesn't it?
[04:23] <BeatYou> !info dillo
[04:23] <ubotu> dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB
[04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: use epiphany over galeon
[04:23] <nalioth> DonL: correct
[04:23] <bigfoot1> epiphany is more feature-packed than galeon?
[04:23] <nalioth> bigfoot1: no
[04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: quite the opposite
[04:23] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: not really, most bilingual speakers have added language packs to popular browsers
[04:23] <|QuaD-> bigfoot1: epiphany is faster and more HIG compliant
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> why not just use firefox?
[04:24] <chrissturm> epiphany is just much nicer than galeon
[04:24] <bddebian> Konqeuror rulZ j00 a11
[04:24] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: because it is bloated and ponderous
[04:24] <bigfoot1> adwait, because as nalioth told me today, fx has memory leaks.
[04:24] <dabaR> adwait: I dont like apps that run in windows myself...
[04:24] <djm62> adwait: he already said he doesn't want to use firefox
[04:24] <malakhi> bigfoot1: epiphany is actually pretty weak compared to a gecko based browser at the moment. it won't work with gmail either.
[04:24] <schasi> elinks
[04:24] <MidNightRaVeN> so do i find libdvdcss in the backports??
[04:24] <pink-noob> Um... is there anyway to change my GTK1 theme?
[04:24] <qt2> anyone?
[04:24] <adwait> djm62:k
[04:24] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: yes/.
[04:24] <bigfoot1> epiphany isn't a geckobased browser?
[04:24] <bigfoot1> i thought it was.
[04:24] <MidNightRaVeN> dabaR: k, thx
[04:24] <dabaR> qt2: um, net install?
[04:24] <adwait> bigfoot1: i think the memoryleak thing was fixed.......with ver 1.0.2 itself
[04:24] <Razor-X> adwait: also has the most memory leaks, its bloated, and other flaws
[04:25] <chrissturm> bigfoot1, it is
[04:25] <dabaR> bigfoot1: you we4re right
[04:25] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: after you update your apt (after adding the BP lines in your sources.list)
[04:25] <ch_604> !info resolution
[04:25] <qt2> dabaR, to install something on the same comp?
[04:25] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you open a term and type "apt-cache search libdvd"
[04:25] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: does it matter how many sources i have in my source list?
[04:25] <ch_604> er
[04:25] <chrissturm> gnome needs a good webkit based browser
[04:25] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: yes and no
[04:25] <dabaR> qt2: I havfe debian, windows, and ubuntu on this one
[04:25] <djm62> adwait: on the other hand, if it works for you, don't sweat it ;)
[04:25] <bigfoot1> malakhi, are you sure epiphany won't work well with gmail?
[04:26] <adwait> djm62:  :).....
[04:26] <Thazza> Got a question to ask everyone
[04:26] <nalioth> ch_604: what are you after? its !resolution
[04:26] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: =/ so basically keep it pretty empty to keep from conflicts from happening?
[04:26] <bddebian> Thazza: shoot
[04:26] <dabaR> Thazza: one for each, or one for all?
[04:26] <hosler> VMWARE asks for the kernel headers for my kernel, but I cant download the kernel source from ubuntus file manager. Should I just go to kernel.com and get it there?
[04:26] <malakhi> bigfoot1: well, that was my fault. i'm on gmail now, and it seems to work ok.
[04:26] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: after you are done getting libdvdcss2, you should comment out the lines with 'backports' in them (with a # at the beginning of the line)
[04:26] <ch_604> !resolution
[04:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:26] <bigfoot1> malakhi, okay, so just a false alarm. Whew! 8-)
[04:26] <Thazza> I have a couple fo usb external HDD's that are NTFS, was wondering how reliable it would be using Ubuntu on my main machine, when i transfer a lot of data back and forth from the externals!
[04:27] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[04:27] <dabaR> hosler: i DOnt think so.
[04:27] <ch_604> thx naolith
[04:27] <nalioth> hosler: you need the ubuntu kernel source
[04:27] <djm62> hosler: linux-headers is the package you want
[04:27] <qt2> blah, screw it, reboot time.
[04:27] <dabaR> Thazza: no writing to ntfs, no safe at least.
[04:27] <bddebian> Thazza: reliable meaning what?
[04:27] <nalioth> Thazza: writing to NTFS causes NTFS data loss
[04:27] <dabaR> qt2: reboot time>?
[04:27] <djm62> Thazza: can you use FAT32?
[04:27] <BeatYou> anyone know how to make ssh user accounts for people - with *extremely* limited access
[04:27] <Thazza> dabaR, & nalioth  THis is what i thought
[04:27] <qt2> dabaR, to install ubuntu.
[04:27] <idunno> hi , where can i find packages for gnustep for ubuntu ?
[04:27] <djm62> Thazza: it's the lowest common denominator
[04:28] <adwait> BeatYou: doesnt ssh accounts use the system user accounts?
[04:28] <dabaR> qt2: then yes.:)
[04:28] <BeatYou> adwait: probably, how do i make users then ? via ssh
[04:28] <dabaR> BeatYou: just remove the groups from the user, the ones you dont want them to be part of.
[04:28] <djm62> BeatYou: how limited? you could create a group with very few privileges
[04:28] <hosler> djm63: i look and the package manager says they are installed in /usr/include/linux, but vmware doesnt like that location saying its for glibc stuff and not the real headers.
[04:28] <bddebian> BeatYou: adduser <username>
[04:28] <qt2> dabaR, heh, i dont want to install a boot manager though, that's the problem, since i've already got grub set up via gentoo.
[04:28] <nalioth> BeatYou: system > admin > users and groups  (and watch the tabs for 'access")
[04:28] <adwait> BeatYou: via ssh........ssh as root and then adduser
[04:28] <BeatYou> thans
[04:28] <dabaR> BeatYou: you make user either through the system>admin menu or adduser username in a terminal
[04:28] <BeatYou> thanks
[04:28] <p8ntballer100822> im about to download 470 apps haha
[04:29] <p8ntballer100822> w00t!
[04:29] <Thazza> djm62,  Issue with that 4 gig limit on Fat 32. The drivers are 2 * 200 gig and a 160 gb, only one of the 200Gb drives has 2 partitions. They are used to store different data. Sometimes being a 4.7 Gig iso
[04:29] <hosler> nalioth: the ubuntu package manager only gives me an option to download 2.4 source, but i need the 2.6 source.
[04:29] <bigfoot1> i did: "sudo aptitude install epiphany-browser" but still no epiphany in my menu. What's up?
[04:29] <dabaR> p8ntballer100822: and then use them all at the same time>
[04:29] <nalioth> Thazza: you have files over 4gb?
[04:29] <adwait> bigfoot1: try the commandline...
[04:29] <p8ntballer100822> yea haha
[04:29] <Thazza> nalioth,  DVD images. ;-)
[04:29] <dabaR> bigfoot1: it has to be there, gnome? apps>internet.
[04:29] <nalioth> hosler: ah
[04:29] <p8ntballer100822> me and my 100 arms
[04:29] <djm62> Thazza: wow, I didn't realise FAT32 was so limited.
[04:29] <nalioth> Thazza: try qemu
[04:29] <bigfoot1> dabar, no it's not in apps>internet, unfortunately.
[04:30] <dabaR> weird, mine is:P
[04:30] <dabaR> add it.
[04:30] <qt2> dabaR, doesnt ubuntu automatically install a boot manager?
[04:30] <nalioth> Thazza: qemu + samba
[04:30] <nalioth> qt2: yes
[04:30] <dabaR> there is a add/remove programs..
[04:30] <p8ntballer100822> woot !! sweet apps here i come
[04:30] <auk> qt2: yes, grub
[04:30] <dabaR> qt2:^
[04:30] <idunno> im sorry i have to rephrase my question.. i know where they are , but how do  i make synaptic or the applicaiton manager find them automatically?
[04:30] <malakhi> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser doesn't get it?
[04:30] <mephisto> Hey group! Totem won't fire up for me when trying to view some streaming media. Where should I look to fix this problem?
[04:30] <dabaR> bigfoot1: you can add apps to the menus.
[04:30] <qt2> well, is there a way to disable the installing of grub? :P
[04:30] <adwait> bigfoot1: in terminal, try typing ephiphany (or whtever the command is) and if it starts up, u can add it to the app menu
[04:30] <dabaR> mephisto: what did it do?
[04:31] <djm62> idunno: have you downloaded them manually?
[04:31] <dabaR> epiphany is the command.
[04:31] <p8ntballer100822> i wish i had a laptop :(
[04:31] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: for the backports, how should the line look? like this:
[04:31] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth:
[04:31] <MidNightRaVeN> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp?
[04:31] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it should be in teh app menu already
[04:31] <dabaR> qt2: you dont want that, it will make entries to allow other OSs to be loaded.
[04:31] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: don't paste in here
[04:31] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: use #flood or a pastebin
[04:31] <Thazza> nalioth, Hmm interesting.. looks like more than i have the time to learn. atm.. I think i will just continue to run, a windows box, and a ubuntu box
[04:31] <eno> hi, um.... how do I change the settings in gnome so that the active window is the one the mouse is over?  (like the olds days)
[04:31] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: backports.ubuntuforums.org will tell you exactly.
[04:31] <MidNightRaVeN> just type #flood and what i want to paste?
[04:32] <nalioth> Thazza: both at the same time? different boxes?
[04:32] <djm62> eno: that's window manager behaviour
[04:32] <mephisto> dabaR: "Totem could not start up. Resource busy of not available"
[04:32] <dabaR> eno there is an option somewhere, Ill get it.
[04:32] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: no, you join the channel #flood
[04:32] <Thazza> All: I would reformat the drives as ext3 yet then the windows boxs (friends and others) i use them on would not see the data
[04:32] <eno> thank you.
[04:32] <p8ntballer100822> thazza, why dont you dual boot? so you can run windoze and linux
[04:32] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: and then paste in that channel
[04:32] <mephisto> dabaR:*or*
[04:32] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: o, kk
[04:32] <djm62> are there any other filesystems common to linux and windows?
[04:32] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: Thazza needs both OS' at the same time
[04:32] <Thazza> nalioth,  Different boxes.. One in office, one in bedroom, for late night research. :-)
[04:32] <nalioth> djm62: fat32 is all i know
[04:32] <p8ntballer100822> oic
[04:32] <p8ntballer100822> hmmm....
[04:33] <nalioth> Thazza: then you should be able to use sambe
[04:33] <dabaR> mephisto: likely a sound thing.
[04:33] <nalioth> samba
[04:33] <BeatYou> !ssh
[04:33] <ubotu> hmm... ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"
[04:33] <Razor-X> the saddest part is, FAT is the skinniest filesystem ;)
[04:33] <mephisto> dabaR: like no sound card, no work?
[04:33] <p8ntballer100822> yea i havent really been paying attention to these convos
[04:33] <Thazza> nalioth,  Thats what i have been doing.. Yet i would really like to get rid of the windows box.. Totally. :D
[04:33] <Go_pLastic> anyone here use cedega?
[04:33] <p8ntballer100822> downloading file 18 of 470.....
[04:33] <dabaR> try killall esd and then try the app again, that will kill your sound in other apps for that session, though, unless you type in esd in a terminal and keep it open.
[04:33] <DonL> Thazza, when I got a separate computer for Linux I was a happy camper.
[04:34] <bddebian> Thazza: So two Ubuntu boxes and you're there :-)
[04:34] <nalioth> Thazza: 'borrow' a copy of partition magic and convert your drives to ext2/3
[04:34] <eno> can I go into the source code?
[04:34] <Thazza> bddebian,  Thats what i would like.. I have one current box, and then the windows box in office.. that the USB hdd's are connected to.
[04:34] <bddebian> eno: For what?
[04:34] <eno> I promise I won't edit it, I just want to see it
[04:34] <p8ntballer100822> i have a windows box... but i rarely use it. i dont really need it for anything
[04:35] <bigfoot1> malakhi, it does get the browser, but it does'nt put it into my menu.
[04:35] <dabaR> eno: System>Prefs>Windows.
[04:35] <bddebian> eno: You can edit it, that is what Free Software is al about
[04:35] <bigfoot1> oh, wait, sorry. it is in the menu.
[04:35] <eno> thank you dabaR
[04:35] <Thazza> nalioth,  Can't do this to other peoples Drives.. (windows) so then their machines can't see my USB drives
[04:35] <dabaR> welcome
[04:35] <malakhi> bigfoot1: my misunderstanding.
[04:35] <bigfoot1> i just was looking alphabetically.
[04:35] <nalioth> bigfoot1: if it isnt there nwo, it should show up when you restart your xserver
[04:35] <bigfoot1> it is on the top of the list.
[04:35] <BeatYou> errr, anyone know where the advanced config files for ssh users are ? like to lock them in home dir
[04:35] <eno> yeah, editing dsomething like that isn't for someone with my programming skil
[04:35] <p8ntballer100822> you guys wanna see my sweet ass paint job on my computer thay isnt really that sweet cause i painted it?
[04:35] <hosler> I need the 2.6.10 kernel source but synaptic doesnt have it in its database, where can i get the ubunti 2.6.10 kernel source.
[04:35] <nalioth> Thazza: you are stuck with the windows ball-and-chain
[04:35] <Thazza> p8ntballer100822, Well the only reason i have the windows box now, is cause of the NTFS usb drives
[04:35] <Danar> djm62: there are no file systems 'common' to linux and windows, but linux can read windows file systems
[04:35] <bddebian> hosler: Hoary?
[04:36] <Thazza> nalioth, Saddly Yes. :-(
[04:36] <p8ntballer100822> oic
[04:36] <nalioth> Thazza: UNLESS you convert your whole office to ubuntu!
[04:36] <hosler> bddebian: i have all the repositories in allready.
[04:36] <bigfoot1> fellow Gmail users: what program do you use to be notified of new email?
[04:36] <eno> so do I have to download the sourcecode or is it already on my system?
[04:36] <dabaR> BeatYou: you would prolly change the permissions for folders to sudo chmod -r or -R / o-rwx
[04:36] <dabaR> dont do that yet tho.
[04:36] <p8ntballer100822> why do you have usb drives?? why not buy internal drives
[04:36] <adwait> BeatYou: read man ssh.......it has all u want i think
[04:36] <Danar> bigfoot1: firefox
[04:36] <BeatYou> bigfoot1: http://toolbar.google.com/gmail-helper/index?promo=gdl-en
[04:36] <mephisto> bigootl: gmail notifier or Thunderbird
[04:36] <Thazza> nalioth, And my friends. :-) and my works computers.
[04:36] <dabaR> eno: the source code for waht?
[04:36] <Danar> bigfoot1: or thunderbird
[04:36] <nalioth> p8ntballer100822: for data portability in the office
[04:37] <eno> the whole OS
[04:37] <BeatYou> thanks adwait
[04:37] <bddebian> hosler: OK but I was asking what you are running.  You aren't on Warty are you?
[04:37] <Thazza> p8ntballer100822,  Portable.. Take to work, Friends.
[04:37] <adwait> np BeatYou
[04:37] <eno> I want to take a look around in it
[04:37] <p8ntballer100822> oic
[04:37] <nalioth> Thazza: shipit.ubuntu.com will send you as many disks as you like
[04:37] <djm62> Danar: FAT32 is common insofar as both windows and linux can create, read, and write it
[04:37] <nalioth> Thazza: and they are fancy pressed ones, with fancy graphical pacakges
[04:37] <bigfoot1> Danar, yes firefox makes an extension, but i just switched from Firefox today.
[04:37] <p8ntballer100822> heres the pic of my computer with its crappy custom paint job
[04:37] <hosler> bddebian: I dont know waht warty is, so I dont think so.
[04:37] <p8ntballer100822> http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=0
[04:37] <Razor-X> natively, rather
[04:37] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, that toolbar is only for windows.
[04:37] <Razor-X> bigfoot1: good job
[04:37] <Danar> djm62: no, you can't run linux on fat32, so it's not common. linux can also do ntfs though
[04:37] <bddebian> eno: "the whole OS" is a little misleading. Do you want to look at kernel source or for a particular package?
[04:37] <dabaR> BeatYou: well, I would do what I said, and then add a user, see if he can leave his directory, and thats it
[04:37] <delltony> anyone happen to know of a good howto including a possible script that will work with ubuntu for converting dvds to xvids dvd::rip doesn't work cause ubuntu hates transcode so i'm trying mencoder with no luck help would be great
[04:37] <Thazza> nalioth,  Not my work computrs.. No permission to wipe., and the old windows users would freak. lol
[04:37] <BeatYou> bigfoot1... errr sorry
[04:37] <BeatYou> haha
[04:37] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, and i don't want to take away more real estate from the browser.
[04:37] <nalioth> djm62: but there is a 4gb filesize limit with fat32
[04:38] <Danar> bigfoot1: uh, _from_ firefox?
[04:38] <bigfoot1> Razor-X, thank you very much!
[04:38] <BeatYou> bigfoot1, it is not a toolbar
[04:38] <Danar> bigfoot1: to what?
[04:38] <BeatYou> it runs in sysmte tray
[04:38] <tyas> hi
[04:38] <Go_pLastic> anyone here use cedega?
[04:38] <nalioth> Thazza: www.xpde.org
[04:38] <BeatYou> but i forgot this is #ubuntu
[04:38] <tyas> hi
[04:38] <tyas> hi
[04:38] <tyas> hi
[04:38] <tyas> hi
[04:38] <Danar> bigfoot1: and why?
[04:38] <bigfoot1> Danar, well, to epiphany and to galeon
[04:38] <Thazza> nalioth, Also i am waiting for the 30 cd's i ordered about 1 month ago.
[04:38] <Razor-X> Go_pLastic: not many do
[04:38] <p8ntballer100822> i know you guys are jelous of my sweet computer with awsome paintjob "sarcasm"
[04:38] <p8ntballer100822> http://photos18.flickr.com/23654142_bcf5eb71b1.jpg?v=0
[04:38] <eno> bddebian: sorry... I am not entirely sure... I just thought it would be cool to take a look
[04:38] <bigfoot1> danar, i switched from fx because nalioth told me of the memory leaks.
[04:38] <Go_pLastic> Razor-X, do you?
[04:38] <nalioth> Thazza: ah, well, when they arrive, have fun converting folks
[04:38] <djm62> Danar: I have ran linux on fat323
[04:38] <Razor-X> Go_pLastic: nopes
[04:38] <Danar> bigfoot1: i have never had a problem with it
[04:38] <bigfoot1> fx makes my pc run slow after a while. I would have to restart it every so many hours.
[04:39] <Razor-X> djm62: UMSDOS, IIRC
[04:39] <Danar> bigfoot1: i leave firefox running for days at a time, sometimes. no probs
[04:39] <Go_pLastic> Razor-X, cool thanks
[04:39] <nalioth> Danar: how much  ram is on your system?
[04:39] <Danar> nalioth: 512
[04:39] <djm62> Razor-X: dat de one, useful for usb-stick boots
[04:39] <adwait> same here
[04:39] <bigfoot1> i have 256 ram on mine.
[04:39] <Razor-X> same here
[04:39] <bddebian> hosler: From a terminal try this: "apt-cache dump |grep kernel-tree-2.6"
[04:39] <eno> what is the point of the camou computer by the way?  why do people do that?  I would paint mine to be a monkey
[04:39] <nalioth> Danar: bigfoot1: if your puters are much differnt, they will act differently
[04:39] <adwait> bigfoot1: which version of ff did u havee?
[04:39] <Razor-X> eno: dunno, whatever floats someone's boat
[04:39] <bigfoot1> so let me ask again: Gmail users, what do you use for new mail notification?
[04:39] <Thazza> nalioth, LOL.. also that link is dead.. well in german. lol
[04:39] <dabaR> eno: some people play those war ganmes, and think war is cool, dunno.
[04:40] <bigfoot1> adwait, um, how do i check version of fx?
[04:40] <nalioth> Thazza: crap, i cant remember if its com or org
[04:40] <Danar> djm62: fat32 doesn't support permissions and things necessary for linux. i call bs. you used a VM or something?
[04:40] <dabaR> bigfoot1: a browser. personally.
[04:40] <eno> yeah I guess
[04:40] <adwait> bigfoot1: in ff, Help>About
[04:40] <hosler> bddebian: I did that and didnt get any output response.
[04:40] <nalioth> Thazza: it's a dead-ringer copy of XP linux desktop mangler
[04:40] <bddebian> hosler: Sorry, that should be "kernel-source-2.6"
[04:40] <hosler> ok
[04:40] <nalioth> Thazza: xpde
[04:40] <djm62> Danar: it's kind of rude to "call bs".  google umsdos
[04:40] <Razor-X> hmmm..
[04:40] <Thazza> nalioth, .com works better
[04:40] <djm62> Danar: and this is #ubuntu, keep the attitude calm :)
[04:40] <BeatYou> bigfoot1: you can setup gmail in a pop3 client, thunderbird for example
[04:40] <p8ntballer100822> anybody need a gmail invite... lol
[04:40] <adwait> !info mozilla-firefox hoary
[04:40] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[04:40] <nalioth> Thazza: i am somwhat frazzled atm
[04:40] <BeatYou> p8ntballer100822, no thanks, i think 50 is enough for me
[04:41] <Danar> djm62: not rude at all. didn't sound 'coshure' to me, so i called you on it.
[04:41] <bigfoot1> adwait, i use version 1.0.2
[04:41] <hosler> bddebian: Package: kernel-source-2.6.1
[04:41] <hosler> Package: kernel-source-2.6.9
[04:41] <hosler>   Depends: kernel-source-2.6.9 (null)
[04:41] <hosler>   Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)
[04:41] <hosler>   Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)
[04:41] <hosler>   Depends: kernel-source-2.6.1 (null)
[04:41] <Danar> djm62: no attitude
[04:41] <p8ntballer100822> oh ok
[04:41] <dabaR> how is it optional?
[04:41] <hosler> Package: kernel-source-2.6
[04:41] <Razor-X> support in this channel takes a lot out of you
[04:41] <hosler>   Depends: kernel-source-2.6 (null)
[04:41] <hosler> oops
[04:41] <Thazza> nalioth,  Needing sleep?
[04:41] <bddebian> hosler: Please don't post in here :-)
[04:41] <nalioth> hosler: please dont flood
[04:41] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, but i'd rather use the web version of gmail.
[04:41] <Razor-X> hosler: please do not paste more than 3 lines of output in this channel
[04:41] <Thazza> nalioth,  Or just a trip away.
[04:41] <adwait> bigfoot1: hmm....well i though the mem leak was fixed by that time......<frowns>
[04:41] <hosler> didnt mean to
[04:41] <bddebian> s/post/flood :-)
[04:41] <nalioth> Thazza: i've been in #ubuntu for many hours this week
[04:41] <Razor-X> bddebian: perl or vi? or both? ;)
[04:41] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, are there any benefits of downloading one's gmail onto one's pc, rather than reading/writing on gmail.com+
[04:41] <bigfoot1> ?
[04:41] <djm62> Danar: well, I'm sure you've googled it now.  for any purpose I can think of FAT32 is common to both, but sadly crippled :-/
[04:42] <BeatYou> bigfoot1, not to me, i use the browser version as well
[04:42] <bddebian> Razor-X: Neither :-)
[04:42] <Razor-X> djm62: it's a tad bit worse than ext2
[04:42] <Danar> djm62: yep. clever hack.
[04:42] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, so what do you use to be notified of new email?
[04:42] <Razor-X> bddebian: then why the stereotypical usage of vi/perl regular expressions?
[04:42] <Thazza> nalioth,  That XP clone looks good.. now if i could just work out how to run MYOB on linux.. and i could convert someone else i know.
[04:42] <djm62> Razor-X: that's why I don't use it ;)
[04:42] <nalioth> bigfoot1: are you on broadband?
[04:42] <bigfoot1> what does any gmail user in this chatroom use to be notified of new email in their gmail acconut?
[04:42] <MidNightRaVeN> dude... i can't get the backports to work... i can't get it to reload cuz i keep getting an error that it couldn't download the repository...
[04:42] <bigfoot1> nalioth, yes, i a m.
[04:42] <p8ntballer100822> Download file 63 of 470......
[04:42] <nalioth> Thazza: wine, or cedega
[04:42] <BeatYou> bigfoot1, i only run ubuntu for server, i run everything else (including gmail notifier) in windows
[04:42] <bddebian> Razor-X: Oh, that.. That's hangovers from the antiquated vi days.. :-)
[04:42] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: join ##apple
[04:42] <bigfoot1> BeatYou, windows OS?
[04:43] <Razor-X> bddebian: as I thought ;)
[04:43] <ega> oooo
[04:43] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: what's there?
[04:43] <Razor-X> i'm an emacs user, no s/'s for me ;)
[04:43] <bddebian> heh
[04:43] <BeatYou> bigfoot1: XP ?
[04:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: then it matters only to you whether you d/l your gmail or use the browser
[04:43] <shuziokae> hi
[04:43] <Thazza> nalioth,  Good idea.. except the cost.. lol.. Commerial Business. will research and try at home.
[04:43] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: YOU will be
[04:43] <djm62> wow, I thought it was an ed-ism
[04:43] <bddebian> Hello shuziokae
[04:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth,  i don't understand.
[04:43] <nalioth> Thazza: site license
[04:43] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: i know... but why would i want to be there?
[04:44] <dabaR> cause he called you./
[04:44] <nalioth> bigfoot1: if you're on dialup, you might wish to d/l your gmail to a local mail client, so u didnt have to dial up each time to check
[04:44] <p8ntballer100822> i just use the gmail website to view my mail, i setup evolution and i dont like the interface
[04:44] <Danar> Thazza: cost of what?
[04:44] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: for HELP, maybe?
[04:44] <bddebian> hosler: Are you sure you aren't running Warty?
[04:44] <hosler> what is a sure way to check?
[04:44] <paul_> does ubuntu support pci-express graphics cards? ati
[04:44] <dabaR> tell him how to check.
[04:44] <Thazza> Danar,  Wine to run MYIOB premier on a 6 machine network.
[04:44] <p8ntballer100822> who here watches aots on g4tv????
[04:45] <bigfoot1> here's my problem: i want to be notified of new gmail, and i do know that there's an applet for the panel. I think it's called new-mail-notification, but after google changed the url, it doesn't work anymore, that's why I'm asking any gmail user here what they use to be notified of new gmail. is there another applet made by ubuntu, gnome, or gtk, or some linux person that does this job?
[04:45] <bddebian> dabaR: I don't know in Ubuntu :-)  I used to just cat /etc/debian_version :-)
[04:45] <Danar> Thazza: then i take it you don't mean cost as in money
[04:45] <dabaR> hosler: same, anyhow, in gnome, System>About ubuntu
[04:45] <dabaR> bddebian: same, hosler: in gnome...
[04:45] <p8ntballer100822> brb
[04:45] <Danar> bigfoot1: the url isn't configurable?
[04:45] <bddebian> dabaR: Breezy is 3.1?
[04:46] <hosler> bddebian: im running the Hoary Hedgehog release
[04:46] <Thazza> Danar,  Well accually i was talking about the cost of money... They are very tight people when it comes to cost. lol.  Should have been how hard it was to convice them to purchase legal copies.
[04:46] <whyameye> I'm trying to use Kino with my firewire videocamera. I can't seem to capture the video. I get from Kino: "WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1...
[04:46] <rahmat> hiiii
[04:46] <Danar> Thazza: uh, wine is free
[04:46] <p8ntballer100822> back
[04:46] <bigfoot1> danar, well, new-mail-notification applet has a special section just for gmail users. danar, could you try it on your system?
[04:46] <bddebian> hosler: That is strange, you should at least have 2.6.10
[04:46] <Danar> bigfoot1: not on gnome
[04:46] <dabaR> or even, alt+ctrl+f5 will tell you which version you have
[04:46] <bddebian> hosler: If you do "uname -i" what kernel version are you running currently?
[04:47] <eno> Does anyone dare me to delete vmlinuz?
[04:47] <Thazza> Danar,  Really?? Where? Last i heard it was a charge,.. Bugger you mean i have been looking at wrong place.
[04:47] <bigfoot1> i'm on gnome, danar, are you saying new-mail-notification (NMN) won't work in gnome?
[04:47] <Danar> Thazza: uh, try apt-get install wine
[04:47] <bddebian> eno: Sure, go ahead :-)
[04:47] <dabaR> eno: I dont.
[04:47] <p8ntballer100822> what is this "new mail notification applet" is this for windows  of linux????
[04:47] <Danar> bigfoot1: _i'm_ not on gnome
[04:47] <bddebian> eno: Or better yet "rm -rf /"
[04:47] <Danar> bigfoot1: i'm not even on ubuntu
[04:47] <eno> what does rm -rf do?
[04:47] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, for linux
[04:47] <nalioth> Thazza: cedega-cvs is free
[04:47] <hosler> bddebian: 2.6.10-5-386
[04:47] <eno> do I need the "/"?
[04:48] <nalioth> Thazza: i'd pay for it, tho for the support
[04:48] <Danar> eno: heh. i hope you're joking
[04:48] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: where can i download it
[04:48] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, what do you mean "windows _of_ linux"? did you mean "or"
[04:48] <eno> yes... you called my bluff
[04:48] <Aerebus> Whats the mp3 player of choice around here?
[04:48] <bddebian> hosler: Then you have to be able to get the source.
[04:48] <Thazza> Danar,  www.winehq.com ? Oh bugger i have been as well.
[04:48] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: i meant or
[04:48] <Danar> eno: :)
[04:48] <hosler> bddebian: I looked all over synaptic. Can i get it off of the ubuntu website?
[04:48] <Thazza> Danar,  Will take a look later.. about to go out for pool, and drinks with a mate
[04:48] <bddebian> eno: rm is remove -r means recursive, -f means force. / means from the root directory :-)
[04:48] <seth_k> Aerebus: for Gnome, muine or rhythmbox. for KDE, Amarok. Those are all iTunes-like. For either, beep-media-player (Winamp clone)
[04:48] <whyameye> anybody out there using a videocamera with firewire on ubuntu?
[04:48] <Razor-X> hosler: what're you looking for?
[04:49] <bddebian> hosler: Have you done an update?
[04:49] <dabaR> rm is delete, -r means recursive, so delete any subfolders and everything, -f forces deletion of read only and protected files, / is your root. So, in translation, you would force recursive delete of anything under root.
[04:49] <Razor-X> bddebian: also known as the 'noob virus'
[04:49] <Danar> Thazza: try "apt-get install wine" for wine. there's also cedega, which is not free, but the source is available for you to compile yourself. google cvscedega for that
[04:49] <adwait> hey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies?
[04:49] <bddebian> Razor-X: Hehe
[04:49] <Thazza> nalioth,  Will look at that one later.
[04:49] <hosler> Razor-x: the 2.6 kernel source
[04:49] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: so its for linux... can you give me the link to download
[04:49] <hosler> bddebian: yeah
[04:49] <dabaR> fyou bddebian :)
[04:49] <Thazza> Danar, & nalioth
[04:49] <Aerebus> Seth_K, i heard about xmms from a guy at work is that one no good?
[04:49] <Razor-X> hosler: it should be there
[04:49] <dabaR> I wrote the whole thing for nothing.
[04:49] <hosler> ok
[04:49] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, hold on, please. i'm searching. i forgot.
[04:49] <adwait> hey, is there a way to remove an app, w/o removing all its dependencies?
[04:49] <Thazza> Danar, & nalioth : Grr.. Sorry.. Was going to say.. Thanks guys.. :D
[04:49] <seth_k> Aerebus: beep-media-player is an updated xmms, and is better
[04:49] <djm62> Aerebus: xmms is getting outdated
[04:49] <dabaR> I mean, not f you in a bad way, just I wish you a good night, with girls...
[04:49] <bddebian> dabaR: ??
[04:49] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: ok
[04:49] <sunrex> how do i get my CD to play...
[04:50] <eno> bddebian: would that actually remove my root directory?  that doesn't sound like it should be possible
[04:50] <bddebian> dabaR: :-)
[04:50] <p8ntballer100822> xmms looks and feals alot like winamp if you are familiar
[04:50] <nalioth> Aerebus: they are all FREE, try them all, and keep what you like
[04:50] <Danar> Thazza: np :)
[04:50] <eno> what if some bastard hacker did it to me :S
[04:50] <dabaR> it would delete everything on your system
[04:50] <bddebian> eno: That would pretty much remove everything on your diesk
[04:50] <bddebian> disk even
[04:50] <dabaR> ha, this time I beat you.
[04:50] <Danar> Thazza: just remember cvscedega. cedega is better for games
[04:50] <adwait> hehe
[04:50] <nalioth> eno: make sure you know what you are putting "sudo" in front of
[04:50] <p8ntballer100822> Downloading file 105 of 470
[04:50] <eno> so would the system still boot or just go to grub?
[04:50] <sunrex> no sound....no cd working...how do i fix this
[04:50] <nalioth> eno: cuz one press of the <enter> can wipe your system
[04:51] <Danar> Thazza: wine is better for general apps
[04:51] <eno> nalioth: :P
[04:51] <dabaR> it would not boot.
[04:51] <bigfoot1> one thing i liked about fx was the quick search in url bar. For example, if i typed "g ubuntu", it does a search in google.com for ubuntu. i wonder if we can get this feauture onto epihpany or galeon
[04:51] <Thazza> Danar, tar.. not that the office running myob will need to play games. so wine is probaly better
[04:51] <ubuntu_> hello people!
[04:51] <djm62> being in this room makes me think that a shop offering free everything would last a long time before running out
[04:51] <Danar> Thazza: doesn't hurt to get both
[04:51] <dabaR> well, if you had another partition, that was not mounted when you rm, and has an os there, I think it would even boot.
[04:51] <dabaR> ubuntu_: yo!
[04:52] <dabaR> djm62: your logic is flawwed:)
[04:52] <Danar> Thazza: there's a script out there to download, compile & install cvscedega for you. look for that if you get it. wine should be in the repository
[04:52] <nalioth> bigfoot1: galeon has that
[04:52] <dabaR> Danar: he is gone
[04:52] <bigfoot1> nalioth, thanks.
[04:52] <ubuntu_> I am new to ubuntu, don't ignore me please!
[04:52] <Danar> oops
[04:52] <bigfoot1> ubuntu_ hello.
[04:52] <dabaR> ubuntu_: I said yo!
[04:52] <nalioth> ubuntu_: how may we help you?
[04:53] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:53] <mephisto> I'm super green with linux/ubuntu. how do install software that I download?
[04:53] <Danar> ubuntu_: you haven't said much :p
[04:53] <dabaR> how may we assist you on this fine day.
[04:53] <ubuntu_> don't really need help, just excited :)
[04:53] <djm62> dabaR: I was joking...but I bet people's natural suspicion would really come into play
[04:53] <dabaR> mephisto: you should install using apt-get not download...
[04:53] <djm62> ubuntu_: welcome :)
[04:53] <Danar> mephisto: easiest way to install software is via synaptic
[04:53] <dabaR> djm62: ah, yes, tru.
[04:53] <Danar> mephisto: or in the terminal with apt-get
[04:53] <rahmat> hello
[04:53] <nalioth> mephisto: you should use synaptic for installing
[04:53] <dabaR> or synaptic, yes, better for new users.
[04:53] <ubuntu_> i have being using mandrake, it works great for me. I am runing live ubuntu right now.
[04:54] <rahmat> ] p;
[04:54] <mephisto> so I could do sudo apt-get, for example?
[04:54] <dabaR> hey rahmat .
[04:54] <bddebian> apt-get ROCKS
[04:54] <mephisto> why synaptic over apt-get?
[04:54] <Danar> mephisto: yes
[04:54] <bddebian> Hello rahmat
[04:54] <nalioths_dog> mephisto: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:54] <rahmat> hiii
[04:54] <djm62> mephisto: nicer interface
[04:54] <nalioths_dog> mephisto: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:54] <IceDC571> i like aptitude myself
[04:54] <dabaR> mephisto: synaptic is a GUI program,
[04:54] <nalioth> mephisto: synaptic is a frontend for apt-get
[04:54] <Danar> mephisto: it provides a graphical interface and automation for apt-get
[04:54] <Arrogance> I'm getting MD5sum mistaches in 11 files when dist-upgrade Hoary.  Is this a general issue or just me?
[04:54] <rahmat> bddebian?
[04:54] <bddebian> rahmat: Just saying hello
[04:54] <eno> how can I switch to /proc/cpuinfo?
[04:54] <djm62> mephisto: if somebody tells you an apt-get command, you can mentally convert it into synaptic clicks
[04:54] <Razor-X> ok, i'm off to try and install emms
[04:55] <eno> I want to see it!
[04:55] <bddebian> eno: Switch to?
[04:55] <whyameye> no one out there knows anything about 1394 with ubuntu, huh?
[04:55] <rahmat> oooo
[04:55] <eno> with cd!
[04:55] <hajiki> my laptop keeps turning off the screen every few minutes (im on battery) how can i turn that feature off? (i've already disabled it from the screensaver applet)
[04:55] <bddebian> eno: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[04:55] <adwait> how do i search for a song in beep-media-player?
[04:55] <ubuntu_> with dvd
[04:55] <dabaR> Arrogance: I think you have us. in front of packages.ubuntu.com or whatever it is in sources.list
[04:55] <hosler> Anyone here use winetools?
[04:55] <Arrogance> dabaR, yes
[04:55] <dabaR> remove, try again.
[04:55] <Arrogance> that's bad?
[04:55] <Aerebus> Seth_K, do i need to make a directory for rhythmbox? or will it make its own? i've never installed software in linuxbefore
[04:55] <Arrogance> ok
[04:55] <dabaR> ok.
[04:55] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, found it. it's called mail-notification. it's in the repository.
[04:55] <dabaR> Aerebus: it will do its thing.
[04:55] <eno> thanks again bddebian
[04:55] <seth_k> Aerebus: just go to Synaptic and search for it
[04:55] <djm62> Aerebus: rhythmbox will take care of itself
[04:56] <adwait> somebody?anybody? how do i search a song in beep-media-player?
[04:56] <seth_k> Aerebus: it'll do everything by itself
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> my oss and asla sound fails in p2p but it works in beep mp, im not too good with alsa so im not sure what i can do
[04:56] <dabaR> all software goes in the same folder in linux, some part of it in one o\folder, other parts in other folders,
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> i have a creative live! ls
[04:56] <mephisto> gonna try this stuff out.......will keep ya'll posted: djm62, Danar, nalioth, dabaR, nalioths_dog
[04:56] <eno> bddebian: that's rules!
[04:56] <bddebian> eno: NP
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> adwait, j
[04:56] <bddebian> adwait: Dunno sorry
[04:56] <dabaR> adwait: how do you search for it...
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> adwait, j is the hotkey j=jimp
[04:56] <Danar> mephisto: poke around the ubuntu sites. lots of useful info there
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> adwait, jump lol
[04:56] <adwait> thx
[04:56] <adwait> :)
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> np
[04:56] <Go_pLastic> :P
[04:56] <Aerebus> Seth, its not in Synaptic
[04:56] <hosler> When I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this?
[04:57] <nalioth> shit
[04:57] <Arrogance> dabaR, that fixed it.  Thanks
[04:57] <bigfoot1> eno, what are you talking about "just rules"?
[04:57] <dabaR> welcome.
[04:57] <bddebian> hosler: Did you find the source?
[04:57] <bddebian> nalioth: Not here man
[04:57] <eno> the cpu info thing is great
[04:57] <eno> It is exciting
[04:57] <hosler> bddebian: nope :(
[04:57] <dabaR> yes, very exciting
[04:57] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: thanks :)
[04:57] <DonL> Thanks for the heads up on beep. Downloading it now.
[04:57] <DonL> Night for now
[04:57] <hajiki> how do i disable m screen from turning off every few minutes
[04:57] <nalioth> bddebian: was tryin to catch mephisto to warn against the 'guide
[04:57] <mephisto6> Danar: working on it....................
[04:58] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, then after installing, it's at menu-->system-->preferences-->mail notification.
[04:58] <dabaR> hajiki: why, like a screen saver thing?
[04:58] <Aerebus> Seth_K, ok i clicked on search and found the file, what button do i press next?
[04:58] <nalioth> mephisto6: you still here?
[04:58] <bddebian> nalioth: Ahh
[04:58] <hajiki> dabaR, my screen keeps going blank, i turned off apm from the screen saver applet but it still keeps turning off
[04:58] <seth_k> Aerebus: check its box, then hit apply
[04:58] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: where is it... you mean synaptic pakage manager.... right?
[04:59] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, yes
[04:59] <dabaR> apm=power management?
[04:59] <bddebian> Heya seth_k
[04:59] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822,do a search for "mail-notification"
[04:59] <seth_k> hiya bddebian
[04:59] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: ok ill install it later im downloading a bunch of stuff there now
[04:59] <djm62> dabaR: acpi is more common these days
[04:59] <seth_k> bddebian: whatcha doing to get ready for next cc meeting?
[04:59] <hajiki> my laptop does not have apm, it's acpi
[04:59] <dabaR> hajiki: are you using gnome?
[04:59] <bddebian> seth_k: I took a shower.. ;-P
[04:59] <djm62> dabaR: but apm is power management too
[05:00] <hajiki> yes i'm using gnome
[05:00] <dabaR> he said apm/
[05:00] <seth_k> :D
[05:00] <dougsk> hajiki, take a look at zxcreensaver-demo and see if your setting the screen to blank System->preferences->Screensaver
[05:00] <dabaR> then, you tried in the System>prefs>Screen saver window?
[05:00] <Go_pLastic> where is the alsa config file?
[05:00] <hosler> When I use esddsp for programs who dont have esound capabilities the sound is delayed about 3 seconds. Is there anyway to fix this?
[05:00] <seth_k> that is an important step bddebian
[05:00] <Aerebus> Seth_K, i dont think were on the same page sorry, i downloaded the sources from the website http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/download.html now i opened synaptic and clicked on search and it found rhythmbox-0.8.8.tar.gz what do i need to do?
[05:01] <bddebian> seth_k: Well I've been trying to help in here, though I'm not sure I am helping any. :-)  I also packaged python-pyrtf but I am getting some weird lintian error
[05:01] <bigfoot1> galeon users: how can we put two toolbars onto the same horizontal area?
[05:01] <nalioth> seth_k: yes, to keep the other cc members from falling off their stools
[05:01] <seth_k> nalioth: indeed
[05:01] <Go_pLastic> where is the alsa config file?
[05:01] <seth_k> Aerebus: you don't need to download anything manually
[05:01] <seth_k> Aerebus: synaptic will do it all for you, just check the box for rhythmbox and hit apply
[05:01] <bddebian> You two wouldn't think that was funny if you could smell my feet right now.. ;-P
[05:01] <regeya> gah.  okay, no lectures about mp3s, please; in rhythmbox, I'm having artists and albums show up, but tracks never show up in the playlist, and rhythmbox is unable to play the mp3s.  gstreamer-mad is installed, and totem is able to play mp3s...hm...wait...
[05:01] <dabaR> bah
[05:01] <Aerebus> Where is it at?
[05:01] <nalioth> bddebian: please be civil
[05:01] <bddebian> Sorry
[05:02] <seth_k> regeya: libmad0
[05:02] <regeya> am I thinking right that totem should be able to read tags, even on evil ol' mp3s...
[05:02] <bddebian> dabaR: Did you get that /msg?
[05:02] <adwait> Go_pLastic: i dunno.......but maybe try /etc/alsa/
[05:02] <regeya> hm.
[05:02] <regeya> seth_k
[05:02] <dabaR> bddebian: irssi, dont know how to see.
[05:02] <dabaR> Ill try. brb
[05:02] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, by the way it's in universe repository.
[05:02] <djm62> Aerebus: it should appear in your menu
[05:02] <p8ntballer100822> bah..... downloading file 173 of 470 cant wait until everything is installed and downloading
[05:02] <hajiki> dougsk, i had not seen that option before (guess i'm blind). thank you
[05:02] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: ok
[05:02] <dabaR> bddebian: what are you talking about?
[05:02] <kaput> what's the best way to contact backport maintainers?
[05:02] <nalioth> dabaR: on your blue bar at the bottom you should see some numbers on the right side
[05:03] <p8ntballer100822> downloaded*
[05:03] <dougsk> hajiki, no worries, at least it's simple enough I can help
[05:03] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, done?
[05:03] <dabaR> kaput: ubuntuforums
[05:03] <bddebian> dabaR: I sent you a private /msg
[05:03] <dabaR> bddebian: yes, I read it.
[05:03] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, all right!
[05:03] <dabaR> please repeat it here in the channel.
[05:03] <bddebian> dabaR: Oh
[05:03] <regeya> seth_k: right, that would be /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1
[05:03] <adwait> regeya: try gstreamer-properties
[05:03] <bddebian> dabaR: It is not for all eyes :-)
[05:03] <kaput> dabaR: i figured so...i tried reporting a bug there, but can't seem to get a response...
[05:03] <linuxpoet> Is there any Vampire packages out there in the Ubuntu-verse?
[05:03] <dabaR> bddebian: then it is a lie.:)
[05:03] <adwait> regeya: set it to use ALSA/ESD
[05:03] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: done...? with what?
[05:03] <bddebian> dabaR: Bah
[05:03] <bigfoot1> p8ntballer100822, you said "downloaded"
[05:04] <regeya> set for alsa
[05:04] <nalioth> bddebian: wow are you lying?
[05:04] <dabaR> kaput: a contact us link on backports.ubuntuforums.org?
[05:04] <adwait> regeya: any luck now?
[05:04] <kaput> dabaR: looked for one, but maybe i overlooked it...i'll try again...just a sec
[05:04] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: i said cant wait until<< it is downloaded
[05:04] <Aerebus> Seth_K ok i found it ;p it has a green square next to it, when i click on that square the only options it pops up are mark for reinstallation, mark for removal, mark for complete removal
[05:04] <nalioth> bddebian: what are you lying about?
[05:04] <seth_k> Aerebus: then it's already installed
[05:04] <dabaR> nalioth: his /msg was: you seem to be helping a lot in the channel, are you interested in joining the ubuntu helper community...:-/
[05:04] <seth_k> Aerebus: it's in your applications menu > multimedia > music player
[05:05] <Aerebus> its not under applications?
[05:05] <nalioth> dabaR: so are you?
[05:05] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: im talking about all the files that i got from the universe though, not the mail notifer
[05:05] <adwait> seth_k same thing
[05:05] <dabaR> Aerebus: it is isntalled with ubuntu
[05:05] <dabaR> rhytmbox is.
[05:05] <regeya> adwait...let me try again...gstreamer seems to be able to play mp3s.  the artists and albums show up in rhythmbox.  I can play the mp3s in totem.  but they never show up in the playlist in rhythmbox when I import 'em and rhythmbox bravely refuses to play them.  but it seems to be the only app so affected.
[05:05] <adwait> Aerebus: : same thing
[05:05] <p8ntballer100822> bigfoot1: i am going to download that later
[05:05] <bddebian> Bah, I need a smoke
[05:05] <dabaR> nalioth: what, so he is not just talking nonsense?
[05:05] <hosler> has anyone gotten visual studio 6.0 to work with wine yet?
[05:05] <p8ntballer100822> hey everybody im leaving.....
[05:05] <p8ntballer100822> ttyl
[05:05] <seth_k> adwait: sorry :/
[05:05] <dabaR> see ya
[05:06] <p8ntballer100822> BYE!
[05:06] <bddebian> Do I seem unreliable or something? :-)
[05:06] <dabaR> brb
[05:06] <bddebian> Gnight dabaR
[05:06] <kaput> dabaR: k...found a mailto: ... thanks. :)
[05:06] <regeya> ok
[05:06] <adwait> regeya: i believe totem doesnt use gstreamer.......so the prob should be in gstreamer, try setting gstreamer to use ESD/ALSA/OSS with gstreamer-properties and one of them should work
[05:06] <regeya> bye
[05:06] <regeya> see ya
[05:06] <regeya> hasta
[05:06] <Aerebus> Seth_K "no plugin installed to handle a mp3
[05:06] <hajiki> aifweidersein
[05:06] <squinn> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/powermanagement-interface/powermanagement-interface_0.3.2_i386.deb  Connection failed
[05:06] <squinn> here we go again
[05:06] <hajiki> or something
[05:06] <seth_k> Aerebus: gstreamer0.8-mad i think
[05:06] <regeya> !
[05:06] <ubotu> regeya: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:06] <mephisto6> nalioth: still here. did the apt-get from ubuntu wiki. went well. have to check on installed repositories
[05:06] <regeya> ...
[05:06] <Aerebus> ?
[05:07] <dabaR> squinn: remove us.
[05:07] <Lord> i have only used linux for a short time but am thinking of going to Ubuntu... is it easy for a new user?
[05:07] <BeatYou> err how do i view a README.gz - comes up scrambled in nano
[05:07] <seth_k> Lord: Ubuntu is quite easy
[05:07] <Nefarous> Is there a preferred way to tune which services get started at boot? (i.e. I see messages for LVM and Raid that I assume I don't need)
[05:07] <adwait> Lord: yes
[05:07] <Lord> TY
[05:07] <dabaR> Aerebus: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:07] <dabaR> and enable universe first
[05:07] <nalioth> mephisto6: yes, stay away from ubuntuguide (not all ubuntu sites are friendly)
[05:07] <seth_k> BeatYou: zcat Readme.gz | less
[05:07] <dabaR> !repositories
[05:07] <ubotu> [repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:07] <squinn> dabaR, I know what to do. It's just an "uhhhh..."
[05:07] <dabaR> that page will tell you how.
[05:07] <BeatYou> seth_k thanks
[05:07] <BeefTube> Success!! ubuntu works on my big fat 64bit system now 8)
[05:08] <BeefTube> is there ati drivers automaticaly installed with AMD64 hoary?
[05:08] <dabaR> squinn: ah.
[05:08] <squinn> dabaR, I'm just copying and pasting.
[05:08] <djm62> Lord: this isn't a very neutral room to ask ;) but ubuntu is great
[05:08] <Aerebus> Seth, do i need to relogin to X?
[05:08] <adwait> hehe
[05:08] <regeya> did hoary switch to totem-xine by default, or is adwait wrong?
[05:09] <pink-noob> Hi! :D Is there any way to change the GTK1 theme?
[05:09] <hajiki> !wireless
[05:09] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:09] <mephisto6> nalioth: noted......
[05:09] <Lord> Thank you... tried Xandros and like it... but have heard about Ubuntu and want to try it.
[05:09] <adwait> regeya: hmm....no answer, but in all likelyhood i might be wrong :)
[05:10] <bigfoot1> hey guys, ubuntu repository has only version 1.01 of mail-notification, but there is a more recent version at http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mail-notification.html. How do i download this updated version. THank you for helping a newbie!
[05:10] <Nefarous> Just got my wireless card working, WG511 ... using ndiswrapper ... didn't have to compile any source either, used the drivers off the CD that came with the card <nifty>
[05:10] <adwait> !info totem hoary
[05:10] <djm62> Lord: will cost you pennies, and the community is generally good
[05:10] <ubotu> totem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[05:10] <ccc> Lord: i've tried a bunch too... ubuntu is the best i've seen so far.
[05:10] <Lord> i see it is certainly very active :-)
[05:10] <djm62> bigfoot1: while you can get the latest version, there are significant advantages to sticking to standard packages
[05:10] <dabaR> bigfoot1: I would go with the older version, why do you need the new one? try the older one first.
[05:10] <x55> i hate to simply throw a question in here, but could someone direct me to a good thread on enablind dual monitor on a radeon series card?
[05:11] <dabaR> !nvidia
[05:11] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <regeya> adwait: I remember in warty ubuntu-desktop depended on totem-gstreamer.  looks like they have a proper dummy package now.  good.
[05:11] <bigfoot1> dabaR, i'm hoping the newer versions will allow me to check my gmail account.
[05:11] <dabaR> x55: try that url
[05:11] <x55> it saddens me so to see a blank monitor staring at me on my desk
[05:11] <dabaR> bigfoot1: the old one does not?
[05:11] <x55> thank you
[05:11] <bigfoot1> dabaR, well it crashes on me  when i set up gmail on it.
[05:11] <dabaR> welcome
[05:12] <mephisto6> nalioth: here's how I ended after apt-get: Fetched 3226kB in 27s (119kB/s)Reading package lists... Done. How do I find this stuff?
[05:12] <bigfoot1> dabaR, are you a gmailer yourself?
[05:12] <dabaR> bigfoot1: did you notice how nice gnmail is to tell you in the tab, and title bar if new messages are there?
[05:12] <nalioth> mephisto6: use synaptic
[05:12] <dabaR> mephisto6: what did you install?
[05:12] <bigfoot1> dabaR, yes, but i want an audible thing, if possible, or something that will pop up
[05:12] <adwait> regeya: so any luck with rhythmbox?
[05:13] <regeya> not really, no. :-}
[05:13] <x55> so how long has the ubuntu project been running now?
[05:13] <dabaR> bigfoot1: ya, I know what you mean, dunno, sorry.
[05:13] <nalioth> dabaR: have you seen your PM(s)?
[05:13] <dabaR> since 4/10, I mean, that was the first releast.
[05:13] <bigfoot1> dabaR, are you a gmail user?
[05:13] <bigfoot1> nalioth, are you a gmail user?
[05:13] <dabaR> please speak with me in the channel
[05:13] <adwait> hey IceDC571
[05:13] <regeya> I wonder if rhythmbox is barfing on a bad id3 tag or something
[05:13] <dabaR> yes, I am.
[05:13] <bddebian> Holy crap, it's 11:15pm already.. :-(
[05:13] <IceDC571_> adwait: hey
[05:13] <dabaR> to you.
[05:13] <IceDC571_> wiat a minute
[05:13] <nalioth> x55: there is lots of info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <IceDC571> so there i am
[05:14] <IceDC571> i found the window :)
[05:14] <IceDC571> lol
[05:14] <adwait> lol
[05:14] <overture> can anyone help me setup an rsync server?
[05:14] <dabaR> what is it nalioth, there is really a helper community?
[05:14] <Aerebus> Seth_K, i'm still getting there is no codec installed to handle a mp3 file
[05:14] <redx> has anyone else had problems getting the password function in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:14] <dabaR> Aerebus: one more time.
[05:14] <nalioth> dabaR: visit the page, please
[05:15] <x55> so i'm fresh out of windows, still wiping off the linux amniotic fluid, hehehe
[05:15] <redx> to work?
[05:15] <mephisto6> nalioth: dabaR: hold on, just found synaptic and am reloading......
[05:15] <dabaR> Aerebus: enable universe.
[05:15] <dabaR> !repositories
[05:15] <ubotu> repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:15] <Lord> x55 me too
[05:15] <nalioth> x55 welcome to freedom
[05:15] <dabaR> that url will etll you.
[05:15] <adwait> cya ppl
[05:15] <Aerebus> dabar, i'm sorry i dont know what you mean
[05:15] <bddebian> Later adwait
[05:15] <x55> i must say, i'm very impressed with the ubuntu community
[05:15] <nalioth> Lord: you have escaped to freedom, also
[05:15] <x55> very exoteric
[05:15] <bddebian> x55: Nice of you to say
[05:15] <dabaR> then, after that, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:16] <dabaR> Aerebus: follow the instructions.
[05:16] <djm62> x55: not to mention attractive :D
[05:16] <Lord> yes....less crashing about...:-)
[05:16] <x55> hehehe, agreed
[05:16] <dabaR> enable universe using the URL ubotu gave you, then use that apt-get command to install codecs
[05:16] <bigfoot1> does galeon do mouse gestures?
[05:16] <dabaR> Aerebus: as well.
[05:16] <dabaR> !restrictedformats
[05:16] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs
[05:16] <redx> has anyone gotten the password function to work in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:16] <dabaR> read that page.
[05:16] <x55> think it would be beneficial to pick up a Linux for Dummies book?
[05:17] <zenrox> x55,  any linux book
[05:17] <dabaR> tldp.org too
[05:17] <Razor-X> anyone here use erc?
[05:17] <regeya> wheeeeee
[05:17] <IceDC571> hmm... you should read about linux online
[05:17] <bddebian> Razor-X: Not if we can help it :-)
[05:17] <dabaR> does anyone in here use IRC? hehe
[05:17] <nalioth> x55: you can start with www.tldp.org as dabaR mentioned
[05:17] <IceDC571> haha windows for dummies
[05:18] <Razor-X> bddebian: fine, stupid vi man ;)
[05:18] <bddebian> heh
[05:18] <bigfoot1> can i have galeon remember the usernames and passwords i enter in websites?
[05:18] <mephisto6> x55: I got Linux 8in1 desk reference  For Dummies...
[05:18] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: you use galeon? how do you like it?
[05:18] <x55> *sigh*  quitting windows AND smoking in the same week, what a trip, hahaha
[05:18] <bigfoot1> IceDC571, i'm on my first hour.
[05:18] <dabaR> ok, nalioth, top secret, making me /part again...
[05:18] <djm62> x55: if there are magazines in your area, they can be informative and entertaining
[05:18] <Razor-X> x55: the latter should be harder than the former
[05:18] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: can it play embedded media in webpages?
[05:19] <sunrex> how do i get my sound to work !?!
[05:19] <bddebian> x55: You are a bigger person than I.. :-)
[05:19] <nalioth> sunrex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:19] <Trace> Hello, My sound card seems be driven successfully because teamspeak showes it is ok, but i can not hear any sound!!
[05:19] <bddebian> Darn you..
[05:19] <bigfoot1> IceDC571, give me an example webpage that hase embedded media so that i could find out, please.
[05:19] <Trace> i am sure it is not muted.
[05:19] <redx> I've tried just "Password something" at the start of /boot/grub/menu.lst which is what the websites all told me to do, as well as the examples actually in it... what am I doing wrong?
[05:19] <bigfoot1> IceDC571, what browser do you use?
[05:19] <Trace> how can i check it?
[05:19] <x55> hehehe, well, i haven't entirely quit the smoking, i'm weening myself off
[05:19] <dabaR> sure, Ill join that.
[05:20] <x55> down to one a day, two evil addictions
[05:20] <bigfoot1> how can i have galeon block ads?
[05:20] <x55> haha
[05:20] <Aerebus> dabar, can you plz join #flood?
[05:20] <Danar> x55: might i ask why you're impressed? anything in particular?
[05:20] <Razor-X> gah
[05:20] <dabaR> yes
[05:20] <nalioth> bigfoot1: google "adblock hosts"
[05:20] <x55> with the community?
[05:20] <IceDC571> bigfoot1: firefox.. i dont have an example to remember, hmm..
[05:20] <Trace> or, can anybody tell me how to check whether sound card work well?
[05:20] <bigfoot1> anybody here use "mail-notification"
[05:20] <bigfoot1> ?
[05:20] <bigfoot1> it's an applet.
[05:21] <Razor-X> hmmm
[05:21] <Razor-X> no, not yet -_-
[05:21] <x55> i've been surfing the forums for the past 4 days, its almost got me to where i was on windows, thats why i am impressed, very informative you all are
[05:21] <bigfoot1> x55, thank you.
[05:21] <bigfoot1> x55, please stop flattering me 8-)
[05:21] <bddebian> hehe
[05:22] <Danar> x55: any weak points?
[05:22] <redx> I've tried to add a password to grub, but it just skips it at start up... does anyone know why it does that?
[05:22] <IceDC571> im tempted to install kde, someone help me
[05:22] <x55> hahaha, i'll stop, after all, i still gotta get some 3d support and dual monitor going, we shall see
[05:22] <IceDC571> i'm too bored with gnome and xfce
[05:22] <sunrex> nope...no sound.....i think its my sound card...Sound Blaster LIVE! 24bit
[05:22] <bddebian> IceDC571: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" :-)
[05:22] <nalioth> IceDC571: easy, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:22] <djm62> IceDC571: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:22] <IceDC571> sunrex: yep, you have to install the LATEST alsa drivers
[05:23] <IceDC571> no i mean help me get away from thinking of installing kde
[05:23] <x55> the ati driver howto's look a bit intimidating, i should dig into them when i'm a little more alert
[05:23] <sunrex> IceDC571: really were?
[05:23] <dabaR> why the stupid time obligation, though, nalioth ?
[05:23] <dabaR> I dont like obligations.
[05:23] <dabaR> why is it not like, just whatever you can do...
[05:23] <nalioth> dabaR: i didnt set that, and it is a suggestion
[05:23] <dabaR> aha
[05:23] <malakhi> IceDC571: don't do that. nothing works right in KDE. And you can never find the damn options to fix it so that it does work right.
[05:23] <punkrockguy318> What backup programs does ubuntu have available? Or what scripts can I use to backup my system to a disk?
[05:23] <linuxpoet> I am having a problem installing python apps from source (python setup.py install)
[05:23] <nalioth> dabaR: yes, just what you can do, in irc, the wiki, forums, etc
[05:24] <linuxpoet> It says I am missing config/Makefile
[05:24] <linuxpoet> In the redhat world
[05:24] <bddebian> dabaR: If you aren't interested, you aren't interested.  You don't HAVE to :-)
[05:24] <linuxpoet> that would mean I am missing python-dev
[05:24] <linuxpoet> What does it mean with Ubuntu
[05:24] <sunrex> were do i get the drivers
[05:24] <bddebian> linuxpoet: So install python-dev
[05:24] <turkey> ok i'm having a problem connecting to the internet with ubuntu
[05:24] <Aerebus> dabar, should i follow the part about 'Adding outside repositories'?
[05:24] <dabaR> no, thats fine, you aer good now.
[05:25] <x55> Danar:  i haven't found anything worth complaining about
[05:25] <turkey> can someone PLEASE help me
[05:25] <bddebian> turkey: What is the problem?
[05:25] <dabaR> go into a terminal, and type in sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:25] <linuxpoet> thanks for the obvious ;) that worked
[05:25] <dabaR> turkey: tell more about the devices, and ISP.
[05:25] <bddebian> linuxpoet: NP :-)
[05:25] <golgor> can anyone tell me how to get root in gnome?
[05:25] <linuxpoet> gnome-terminal
[05:25] <linuxpoet> then sudo
[05:25] <dabaR> sunrex: did you say which drivers?
[05:25] <djm62> !root
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:26] <golgor> i want to get root in the graphical interface
[05:26] <golgor> not in the terminal
[05:26] <Danar> i've been poking around in beep media player, and i don't see any advantages over xmms. i prefer xmms, and i see no reason to switch...
[05:26] <dabaR> golgor, I think still the site tells you.
[05:26] <sunrex> yea Sound Blaster LIBR! 24 bit..do i go to the website...or do i need special drivers from ubuntu?
[05:26] <djm62> golgor: I don't think gnome supports that
[05:26] <dabaR> it does.
[05:26] <Danar> yet apparently it's better somehow?
[05:26] <dabaR> I know exactly where in fact.
[05:27] <dabaR> golgor: why be root?
[05:27] <dabaR> in gui?
[05:27] <Danar> golgor: no you don't
[05:27] <x55> you know i hated winamp 3 on windows, and it seems thats the only release for linux, does anyone use winamp over xmms?  honestly, i just miss my shoutcast TV
[05:27] <golgor> dabaR, have to move some files and im to lazy to use the terminal
[05:27] <dabaR> ok, well disable it after, tho.
[05:27] <Aerebus> dabar, i redid apt-get install and there are three linesyou might want to see, notice or msg them to you?
[05:27] <Danar> golgor: never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo in the terminal
[05:28] <sunrex> ..were do i get the drivers......
[05:28] <dabaR> golgor: System>Admin>Login screen setup.
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: it's not a good idea to run gui apps as root
[05:28] <golgor> Danar, i have to move 2 files
[05:28] <dabaR> just disable after, tho, promise./
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: so 'mv source destination'
[05:28] <nalioth> golgor: using gui apps as root is bad, cuz some gui apps will ravage your system
[05:28] <golgor> :(
[05:28] <dabaR> Aerebus: did it install?
[05:28] <Danar> golgor: er, 'sudo mv source dest'
[05:28] <djm62> golgor: you realise you've spent longer in here talking about those two files than you would have moving them?
[05:28] <Aerebus> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:28] <Aerebus> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[05:28] <Danar> djm62: hah! :D
[05:29] <golgor> djm62, no i haven't, because i dont even know the command to move :P
[05:29] <Aerebus> oops
[05:29] <dabaR> for sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*?
[05:29] <Aerebus> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:29] <Aerebus> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[05:29] <sunrex> how do i get back the trash can...deleted it from the desktop...
[05:29] <Aerebus> balh
[05:29] <Danar> golgor: well, it's "mv"
[05:29] <golgor> Danar, thanks :P
[05:29] <dabaR> right click on a panel, add to panel, trash.
[05:29] <djm62> golgor: the command is mv.   used "mv start destination"
[05:30] <sunrex> but were do i get trash at...
[05:30] <Danar> golgor: you should look up a list of basic commands. you should at least know ls, mv, rm, mkdir, rmdir, sudo, man, grep, and so on
[05:30] <dabaR> oh from desktop?
[05:30] <dabaR> or from panel?
[05:30] <dabaR> at least grep, hey?
[05:30] <sunrex> i deleted it from desktop
[05:30] <sunrex> so were do i find it
[05:30] <golgor> Danar, haven't found any list of basic commands, haven't searched either
[05:30] <dabaR> ok, well, that is a little different.
[05:30] <dabaR> just a sec
[05:31] <Danar> dabaR: of course. it's very useful
[05:31] <Danar> golgor: well how do you expect to find one without looking?
[05:31] <dabaR> go apps>System tools>configuration editor, sunrex
[05:31] <bigfoot1> razor-x, please try mail-notification. I am able to get the applet to check my non-Gmail account, but it can't check my gmail account.
[05:31] <Trace> hello, when i used alsamixer, master and pcm is always 0, i can't up it, can anybody help me?
[05:31] <sunrex> thks
[05:31] <Danar> golgor: google.com/linux?q=~guide
[05:32] <gm78> Hey all
[05:32] <bddebian> Hello gm78
[05:32] <djm62> golgor: it's a linux thing...knowing the underlying base is occasionally useful.  if you're in the UK I can stick a reference card in an envelope
[05:32] <Danar> so no one knows any advantages of beep over xmms?
[05:32] <djm62> Danar: gtk versions are different, I think
[05:32] <dabaR> sunrex: then, go Apps>nautilus>desktop, its there.
[05:32] <IceDC571> Danar: beep is gtk2
[05:32] <nalioth> Danar: gtk2 over gtk1 (and some minor fixes)
[05:32] <djm62> Danar: and xmms is less maintained
[05:33] <Danar> djm62: does xmms _need_ to be maintained more? it plays all the audio i've put into it
[05:33] <bigfoot1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228724&postcount=3 talks about a gDesklets gmail checker. WHere can i get this gDesklet?
[05:33] <dabaR> ya, I like xmms better, dunno, just more reliable.
[05:33] <ccc> xmms looks like 1991
[05:33] <IceDC571> Danar: they're working on xmms2 which is based on gtk2
[05:33] <dabaR> who is sending me messages all the time?
[05:33] <Danar> i like the look of xmms better. yes i got some skins for beep, but none quite like what i want
[05:33] <dabaR> ccc: true:)
[05:33] <Danar> IceDC571: sounds good :)
[05:33] <dashx> Hi guys, I have a question.
[05:33] <sunrex> thanks i got it now
[05:34] <pink-noob> Does anyone know if there is an ape and flac plugin for beep?
[05:34] <dabaR> welcome
[05:34] <djm62> Danar: if it gets bit-rot, it won't be cleaned...it's likely to get worse, even if it's ok now
[05:34] <dabaR> pink-noob: synaptic might know that.
[05:34] <x55> so i realize it would be worthwhile and educational to establish an ftp server through the terminal, but is there a good gui ftp program one could use to establish an ftp server?
[05:34] <IceDC571> pink-noob: i've found that the only flac plugin working is the one for xmms1
[05:34] <Danar> djm62: sorry?
[05:34] <dashx> I recently decided to use Ubuntu for a server box. I installed Ubuntu using "server" instead of regular install. How come it never asks me to assign a root password?
[05:34] <dabaR> establishing an ftp server is as easy as installing it
[05:34] <bddebian> dashx: Fire away, we'll answer if we can
[05:34] <pink-noob> Thanks, IceDC571.
[05:34] <bddebian> dashx: Ubuntu doesn't have root
[05:34] <bddebian> !root
[05:34] <ubotu> it has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:35] <dabaR> dashx that url will tell you .
[05:35] <djm62> Danar: for instance, if it stops playing nicely with a gcc update
[05:35] <dabaR> also the insatll told you.
[05:35] <x55> really?
[05:35] <dashx> the install never told me.
[05:35] <Danar> x55: check out vsftpd & pureftpd
[05:35] <dabaR> x55: yes, then, after that, you can connect to it using a GUI client, such as gftp
[05:35] <x55> i have them both, but the prompt still frightens my gui-lovin-ass
[05:35] <dashx> Thanks for the help guys.
[05:35] <Danar> djm62: that would only affect it if  you recompiled it
[05:35] <dabaR> you can not have two ft servers installed, so you dont.
[05:35] <Aerebus> dabar, ok i reran apt-get install and i see what it put out and there are 3 lines that might mean soemthing i dont know personally but here they are: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. ... what do i do now?
[05:35] <x55> hehehe, pardon the language
[05:36] <djm62> Danar: if it works, great...you are free to use whatever you like.  but there are reasons not to
[05:36] <nalioth> x55 the prompt is your friend, it'll be with you after your gui says goodbye
[05:36] <dabaR> what was the apt-get install command Aerebus ?
[05:36] <sunrex> ok...now were do i get a driver update for Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit
[05:36] <djm62> Danar: binary incompatibility happens too, if you give it long enough
[05:36] <sunrex> i need to update it
[05:36] <dabaR> exadctly as you wrote it.
[05:36] <x55> i know, but as i said, i'm an addict to the intuitive little boxes
[05:36] <sunrex> couse it has NO sound
[05:36] <Aerebus> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:36] <dabaR> sudo apt-get install that
[05:36] <sunrex> huh?
[05:36] <Danar> djm62: well if xmms2 is in the works i shouldn't have to worry
[05:36] <dabaR> aptitude is stupid like that(I dont know how to use it, anyhow)
[05:37] <x55> microsoft deeply implanted its vile seed within me, hahaha
[05:37] <Aerebus> sorry i said apt-get didnt i? lol well i'm new to all of this hehe
[05:37] <youth> someone said to me before that it is possible to get Photoshop 7.0 on here, but I need ..WINE, is this right?
[05:37] <Danar> Aerebus: that's slight overkill, don't you think?
[05:37] <dabaR> sunrex: it is not the driver, some other things are worng with it.
[05:37] <sunrex> all i want to know is HOW TO GET MY SOUND TO WORK lol
[05:37] <mephisto6> Any predictions on how ubuntu would work on an "antique" toshiba laptop? 810 MB HD, PII Processor 16 MB RAM, bum CD ROM
[05:37] <djm62> Danar: nobody told you to worry: you did ask what was wrong with just using xmms.  there's a lot right with it, but you didn't ask that ;)
[05:37] <nalioth> mephisto6: slowly and with a lightweight or no gui
[05:37] <sunrex> dabaR: well what can i do to fix it?
[05:38] <djm62> mephisto6: you would need to strip it down quite a lot
[05:38] <dabaR> you wrote the command different, so, did you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*, or aptitude?
[05:38] <Danar> youth: probably. wine is used to run windows apps on linux. there's also cedega which is oriented towards games. it's free if you compile it yourself. search cvscedega. wine should be in the repository
[05:38] <newbie> mephisto6 try damn small linux better
[05:38] <dabaR> sunrex: you can ask crimsun for help when he is here.
[05:38] <Aerebus> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:38] <ultrahex> has anyone got Ventrilo to output on Linux?
[05:38] <Aerebus> thats what i used
[05:38] <youth> Ooh. I already started wine lol
[05:38] <Danar> djm62: i know. ;)
[05:38] <dabaR> ok, please do the apt-get instead, that will work.
[05:38] <djm62> mephisto6: it would take some skill to get ubuntu to be nice on that hardware
[05:38] <nalioth> mephisto6: i recommend the server install of ubuntu on the lappy
[05:38] <youth> I just wanted to know if that would help me
[05:38] <sunrex> well i got vidio to run...so at least i know that works =/
[05:38] <Aerebus> sudo apt-get  install gstreamer0.8-*  ?
[05:38] <nalioth> mephisto6: at that poing you can learn what kind of gui to put on it
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: newbie: I was thinkin' dmsl. Will probably fix the cdrom to make it somewhat easier...
[05:39] <dabaR> yes, Aerebus ,
[05:39] <Danar> youth: no reason not to have both. sometimes one will run something the other doesn't
[05:39] <sunrex> brb all
[05:39] <Aerebus> ok its doing its thing
[05:39] <youth> Danar; OKay. Thank you :D
[05:39] <dabaR> aptitude does not work with the asterisks that way, I did not read the manual to learn how to do that.
[05:39] <nalioth> mephisto6: dsl is very screwed, as far as upgradeablity goes
[05:39] <Danar> youth: wine is more for general apps, cedega for games
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: *laughs* server. maybe wifi backpack to go with?
[05:39] <nalioth> mephisto6: dsl is put together for compact size, not user upgradeability
[05:39] <mephisto6> nalioth: knoppix to test the waters, perhaps?
[05:40] <youth> Danar; Oooh. I don't play games so I won't worry about cedega.
[05:40] <djm62> mephisto6: liveCDs like memory
[05:40] <nalioth> mephisto6: how bout ubuntu live cd?
[05:40] <Moppin> nalioth, I agree, DSL HDD is a pain to upgrade
[05:40] <dabaR> x55: really, I am telling you, for an ftp server, just run sudo aptitude install proftpd(or whatever else you want
[05:40] <dabaR> )
[05:40] <youth> Danar; but my mom does get on here to play games on line.. games.com or whatever, and they won't play, do you know what I need to do to get them to?
[05:40] <mephisto6> nalioth: 810 mb hd sounds compact. think?
[05:40] <Danar> youth: nonetheless, some general windows apps are more graphical, and will only work in cedega
[05:40] <dabaR> and then after that, dont touch the server, just sonnect to it using gui clients.
[05:40] <Danar> youth: the ones that play in the browser?
[05:40] <ultrahex> Ventrilo.... any able to make it output or do i need to install anything ?
[05:40] <youth> danar; yes
[05:40] <djm62> mephisto6: there are floppy distros (even with graphics)
[05:40] <Danar> youth: get the flash & java plugins
[05:40] <dabaR> youth: java likely.
[05:40] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: will have to replace internal cdrom first
[05:40] <Danar> youth: you use firefox right?
[05:40] <Aerebus> dabar, it says E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:41] <Danar> dabaR: both, likely
[05:41] <youth> danar; yeah.
[05:41] <nalioth> mephisto6: here you go: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[05:41] <Danar> youth: yeh, there's a plugins faq on mozdev.org
[05:41] <djm62> mephisto6: the last time I saw a laptop that light running linux it was being used as a graphic equaliser with blackbox at a gig
[05:41] <youth> danar; thank you! i'll go check that out. and i'll probably be backl ol
[05:41] <Danar> youth: google firefox plugins, and you should find it
[05:41] <youth> k :D!
[05:41] <dabaR> wow, Aerebus do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace everything there with what is here: http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[05:41] <mephisto6> nalioth: I looked at that sight. Will take many moons at my skill level. but worth the experience methinks
[05:41] <Danar> youth: java can be a bit of a pain though, so pay attention :p
[05:41] <qt2> woot \o/
[05:42] <dabaR> Then, sudo aptitude update, and then the apt-get again.
[05:42] <youth> danar; euw :// kkz!
[05:42] <Danar> youth: uh... huh? lol
[05:42] <youth> danar; nothing O_o
[05:42] <Danar> heh
[05:42] <djm62> mephisto6: actually, you could get debian, and install blackbox or fluxbox, links, and emacs
[05:43] <dabaR> qt2: do mount, find the /dev/hd** of your gentoo partition, then tell me the fs type, and the /dev/hd**
[05:43] <dabaR> mount in a terminal and enter.
[05:43] <dabaR> no
[05:43] <mephisto6> djm62:  take it easy on the noob here. baby steps for me. I'm still in process on fiddling w/ 10 old boxes I scored from work, gratis. Gonna put linux variants on 'em all that still work and see what happens.
[05:43] <nalioth> mephisto6: actually it is well written
[05:43] <dabaR> sudo fdisk -l
[05:43] <Aerebus> dabar, itsdone
[05:43] <Imsdle> @#$@##$@ arrrggg damn evolution.. it has crashed and now won't start.. it just trys to open and my hard disk goes bizerk.. any ideas?
[05:43] <dabaR> Aerebus: now mp3s have to play.
[05:44] <rincewynd> arghhh why cant Totem Movie player play mmmoooooviieess?! *cry*
[05:44] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: copying and pasting recommendations as quickly as possible........Many thanks!!!!
[05:44] <djm62> nalioth: would he be as well doing a really basic debian install?
[05:44] <nalioth> djm62: on the small laptop? probably
[05:44] <dabaR> rincewynd: what does it do, that is needed to know why it does not do what you would like it to, tell us the error message.
[05:44] <djm62> debian is frugal by default :-/
[05:45] <nalioth> mephisto6: you must be more specific, c/p where to what?
[05:45] <mephisto6> *taking notes* nalioth: djm62:
[05:45] <Aerebus> dabar, oh after sudo aptitude update i run sudo apt-get update (again)?
[05:45] <nalioth> djm62: he can use a netinst floppy debian and start from there
[05:45] <dabaR> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[05:45] <Danar> rincewynd: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins totem-gstreamer
[05:45] <mephisto6> suggestions given from here to a plain text file to pour over later
[05:45] <punkrockguy318> how can I get the differences between two $file commands?
[05:45] <Danar> rincewynd: do that ^ and it will work
[05:45] <nalioth> djm62: of course he'd have a system with a kernel and apt-get only, lol
[05:45] <djm62> nalioth: worked for me, many moons ago, although it looks like he has CD not floppy
[05:45] <nalioth> mephisto6: enable logging in your irc client
[05:46] <mephisto6> nalioth: bustin' my balls for synaptic after your very own suggestion........*laughs*
[05:46] <nalioth> djm62: the netinst comes in cd and floppy images
[05:46] <nalioth> mephisto6: no big thing, bubba
[05:46] <djm62> nalioth: the equation being 14 windows CDs >> 3 'Potato' floppies
[05:46] <nalioth> we are always here
[05:46] <MrBiscuit> How do you connect using dialup with the terminal?
[05:46] <Imsdle> any ideas for evolution crashing
[05:46] <djm62> s/CD/floppie/
[05:46] <nalioth> djm62: or one mini-cd
[05:46] <Danar> Imsdle: switch to thunderbird? :p
[05:47] <Danar> Imsdle: reinstall?
[05:47] <mephisto6> nalioth: logging, yes. done. damn, this lernin' stuff is fun!
[05:47] <Danar> Imsdle: give the error in an irc chat room?
[05:47] <Imsdle> i tried to reinstall
[05:47] <nalioth> Danar: you should recommend wiping the .evolution dir first (or moving it somehwere other than your homedir, or renaming it)
[05:47] <djm62> nalioth: potato was before I had a CD drive, and that limitation was why I didn't reinstall windows (_from_floppies_)
[05:47] <Imsdle> what is the prefered program?
[05:47] <Aerebus> dabar, i ran sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing
[05:48] <dabaR> again?
[05:48] <qt2> well wtf, when i try to do the 'su -' command, it asks for the password, i enter the one i gave during install, and it says it failed...
[05:48] <Aerebus> relog into X?
[05:48] <Danar> nalioth: reinstalling shouldn't affecting anything... should it?
[05:48] <Danar> nalioth: just the binaries and stuff
[05:48] <dabaR> qt2: it is disabled.
[05:48] <qt2> why? o.O;
[05:48] <Danar> Imsdle: for email?
[05:48] <nalioth> Danar: Imsdle try renaming your .evolution folder in your home directory
[05:48] <dabaR> qt2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/rootsudo will tell you.
[05:48] <qt2> how do i use the mount command then... :o
[05:48] <carl> I have a ide/ext2 fs drive in a usb case - I turn it on, and dmesg says:  scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery:
[05:49] <Danar> nalioth: oh, you mean before reinstalling. heh. haven't used evolution in a long time
[05:49] <dabaR> sudo fdisk -l please, and tell me what partition is the gentoo one. I mean, what it tells you about it, anyhow...
[05:49] <carl> I would like to try to fsck it, but I can't figure out what /dev it is... how do I tell?
[05:49] <nalioth> Danar: yes, its easier to rename the .evolution, and if that is it, he can start over with a new one
[05:49] <Aerebus> dabar, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* --fix-missing did the trick thankyou its working now :)
[05:49] <DekaPink> I'm on Ubuntu... Woohoo. :D
[05:50] <dabaR> Aerebus: good stuff, glad to hear that.
[05:50] <mephisto6> nalioth: djm62: got this error during upgrading with synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <mephisto6> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgii/libgii0_0.8.5-2_i386.deb
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <mephisto6> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:50] <Imsdle> there is no error.. it just sits there with the evolution window not loaded proberly trying to open somehting and my hard disk goes flat out
[05:50] <mephisto6>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:50] <eno> what is xwindows in relation to kde and gnome?
[05:50] <dabaR> mephisto6: remove the us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:50] <djm62> eno: it lies underneath both
[05:50] <eno> right ;) thanks.
[05:50] <nalioths_dog> mephisto6: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:50] <eno> I am a noobie by the way
[05:50] <nalioths_dog> mephisto6: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:50] <djm62> eno: it is the blackboard, they are the diagrams
[05:51] <mephisto6> dabaR: thanks. am trying..............
[05:51] <nalioth> mephisto6: follow the dogs leads
[05:51] <Danar> eno: xwindows provides graphical type stuff. kde & gnome do window management
[05:51] <dabaR> whats with the dog, nalioth?:)
[05:51] <Danar> eno: that's why they're called window managers :p
[05:51] <bigfoot1> i'm downloading a deb file. how do i install it?
[05:51] <nalioth> dabaR: i'm tired of explaining the wonky repos
[05:51] <bddebian> bigfoot1: dpkg -i
[05:51] <djm62> eno: eventually you will understand why it's called a "server"...then your soul will be lost ;)
[05:51] <eno> Danar: oh thanks :P
[05:51] <Owl^> run the exe file?
[05:51] <dabaR> bigfoot1: dpkg -i package.deb, but, it may not work.
[05:51] <bigfoot1> dabaR, why not?
[05:51] <dabaR> cause its not a ubuntu package.
[05:52] <Danar> eno: if in doubt, check the man pages (aka, RTFM)
[05:52] <eno> dmj62: you're scaring me
[05:52] <eno> so I can't ask conceptual type questions on this channel?
[05:52] <djm62> eno: it's an old, old system with some odd nooks about it, but it has lasted well
[05:52] <IceDC571> i remember the first time i used mandrake.. my mouse cursor was an X the whole time, they didnt want to change it
[05:52] <nalioth> eno: ask away
[05:52] <dabaR> eno: ask anything, maybe you wont get an answer, tho.
[05:52] <Owl^> and search the package for viruses
[05:52] <bigredjoe1310> i can't change my screen resolution thru the regular means, is there any way to do it in terminal
[05:52] <bigfoot1> so not all deb stuff work in ubuntu? i thought they were related?
[05:52] <eno> I thought so.  I have found this to be the friendliest linux channel on irc
[05:52] <sunrex> GREAT i dont got sound...OK I CAN LIVE WITH THAT FOR AWHILE...i put in a dvd...nothing runs accept Xine.....then when it does run it has all these weird colors....its like a fuzzy TV accept with gaps showing some of the picture..
[05:52] <quantux> X draws the windows, kde and gnome decorate and manage them
[05:53] <dabaR> !resolution
[05:53] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:53] <nalioth> quantux: wonderful description
[05:53] <sunrex> *slaps head*
[05:53] <djm62> eno: the X server is the only application which touches the screen.  All other programs tell X what to draw
[05:53] <eno> so could I save memory if I didn't run gnome, or do I need it?
[05:53] <IceDC571> to tell you the truth.. X does nothing.. it just crashes gnome for fun
[05:53] <Owl^> big, you can chance resolution via regedit
[05:53] <Danar> Owl^: viruses? heh
[05:53] <nalioth> eno: a definite savings of memory
[05:53] <MrBiscuit> Ummm im having trouble connecting via dialup. It just sits at the logging onto network window and won't do anything else
[05:53] <eno> haha
[05:53] <nalioth> Owl^: regedit?
[05:54] <dabaR> Owl^: what are you speaking of?
[05:54] <eno> so how can I change my window manager?
[05:54] <djm62> eno: if you /just/ ran X. (and you can do this) you'd get a mouse pointer and a blank screen with grey hatching
[05:54] <sunrex> personaly....im just wondering if this Lunix is worth it or if i sould just go and buy one...would it be A.better for awhile or B.better in the long run..
[05:54] <Danar> sunrex: might need libdvdcss2
[05:54] <dabaR> fir run the exe, then viruses, now regedit...
[05:54] <eno> I have seen that before, it is infiuriating
[05:54] <IceDC571> eno: i think its a little too early for that.. whatever you do, dont change it to kde
[05:54] <sunrex> Danar: libdvdcss2?
[05:54] <stanford> How do I install a downloaded theme?
[05:54] <Danar> eno: edit your .xinitrc file
[05:55] <dabaR> !info libdvdcss2
[05:55] <djm62> eno: otherwise, when you login you can change the "session" before you put in your name and password
[05:55] <eno> why can't I change to kde?
[05:55] <IceDC571> stanford: go to the themes dialog and just drag the package into the window
[05:55] <Danar> sunrex: it may be because the dvd is encrypted...
[05:55] <djm62> eno: and you can change to anything you like
[05:55] <sunrex> Danar oohh LOL
[05:55] <stanford> idedc571 ok thanks
[05:55] <stanford> icedc571*
[05:55] <Owl^> well...we were speaking of the screen resolution...you can change it easili vie regedit...(just run search for screen resolution)
[05:55] <dabaR> stanford: for gnome? go check out the faqs at art.gnome.org
[05:55] <MrBiscuit> KDE is pretty :-D
[05:55] <bddebian> heh
[05:55] <djm62> eno: I have a soft spot for blackbox and fluxbox as window managers
[05:55] <sunrex> Danar: so were i get that
[05:55] <Owl^> *easily
[05:55] <eno> so if I go into re-whatever mode from grub, could I intialize an X server from the root prompt?
[05:55] <qt2> dabaR, /deb/hda3       /mnt/gentoo     reiserfs        noatime                           0   1
[05:55] <qt2> ;)
[05:56] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: KDE is pretty resource hungry
[05:56] <dabaR> qt2: :)
[05:56] <Danar> sunrex: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:56] <MrBiscuit> It's not that bad
[05:56] <IceDC571> kde is like an ugly Qt gone for a face lift and a lot of surgery
[05:56] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: not on a modern system
[05:56] <sunrex> Danar: thanks, ill tell you if it works or not
[05:56] <eno> my system is far from modern
[05:56] <djm62> eno: just log out of gnome without shutting down, but make sure you have installed some of the other window managers
[05:56] <dabaR> sunrex: he already knows it works:)
[05:56] <Danar> sunrex: if not, try the codecs
[05:56] <MrBiscuit> I bought my system... 6 months ago.. maybe thats why
[05:57] <Danar> heh
[05:57] <johntramp> hey I installed ubuntu on a pc with a 21" monitor and it set the resolution to something like 1280x1024 and now I have it running on a smaller monitor which cant handle that resolution.  Is there a way to have ubuntu reconfigure itself for this new monitor or do I have to edit config files by hand?
[05:57] <djm62> then you can log back in with other ones, and decide what you like about them
[05:57] <eno> then what do I do?
[05:57] <sunrex> Danar: root@Darkworks:/home/tyler #  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:57] <sunrex> Reading package lists... Done
[05:57] <sunrex> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:57] <sunrex> libdvdcss2 is already the newest version.
[05:57] <sunrex> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[05:57] <sunrex>  ..
[05:57] <dabaR> Danar: oh, that wont work without backports.
[05:57] <sunrex> ?
[05:57] <dabaR> johntramp: yes, hoary?
[05:57] <Owl^> just use windows and be happy...(and curse all the errors)
[05:57] <johntramp> dabaR: yes
[05:57] <MrBiscuit> nalioth? Do you know anything about PPP connections
[05:57] <IceDC571> johntramp: you'll have to edit xorg.conf and type in your LCD frequencies
[05:57] <johntramp> IceDC571: its not lcd
[05:57] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: sorry, i use broadband, and havent used a modem in years
[05:58] <IceDC571> oh.. i mean monitor
[05:58] <MrBiscuit> Oh ok
[05:58] <dabaR> johntramp: well, I used this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is a little funny, cause it asks you all these things, but I enter through it except for the resolution part, youll see.
[05:58] <Owl^> heh, modem...what's that?
[05:58] <MrBiscuit> Lives 1800 feet from DSL *curses phone company!
[05:58] <sunrex> Owl^: no thanks, it cost me almost 200$ on just things to fix viriuses spyware and firewall
[05:58] <nalioth> johntramp: if taht doesnt work, come back and talk to me
[05:58] <djm62> eno: and try to get a shot of ssh X-forwarding...
[05:58] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: get a cable modem
[05:58] <IceDC571> :)
[05:58] <johntramp> ok thanks dabaR
[05:58] <djm62> eno: you might not need it, but it surely is cool
[05:58] <dabaR> MrBiscuit: I know it stands for point to point protocol
[05:58] <dabaR> welcome
[05:59] <MrBiscuit> Lives 30.2 miles from nearest cable line
[05:59] <sunrex> Danar: no it didint work
[05:59] <dabaR> sunrex: go read the following page.
[05:59] <eno> so if I have ssh can I log into my linux box at home from my crippled windows terminal pizza box at work?
[05:59] <dabaR> !restrictedformats
[05:59] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: lol, where the hell do you live?
[05:59] <Owl^> sunrex, there are plenty of free @virus softwares, (too bad they are almost useless)
[05:59] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs
[05:59] <Danar> sunrex: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[05:59] <nalioth> eno: yes
[05:59] <bddebian> eno: Yes, use Putty
[05:59] <eno> awesome (H)
[05:59] <MrBiscuit> Sticks!
[05:59] <sunrex> thks..
[05:59] <djm62> eno: yeah, but windows doesn't run X-window-system
[05:59] <mephisto6> ok, next "technical" question. best way to get my ubuntu box recognized by my two Win xp boxen?
[06:00] <bddebian> djm62: Well it "can"
[06:00] <eno> I could get to a command prompt though?
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone here remember what "Dialup" means?
[06:00] <Danar> sunrex: download that, extract it to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:00] <djm62> bddebian: yeah, his work one definitely doesn't though
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Or still uses it
[06:00] <djm62> eno: yep
[06:00] <bddebian> eno: Yes
[06:00] <bddebian> djm62: Good point :-)
[06:00] <Danar> sunrex: there's a readme file in there too though
[06:00] <sunrex> Windows sucks...im going to do this...wait till longhorn comes out...or just buy one of the best lunix system
[06:00] <MrBiscuit> Longhorn... heh
[06:00] <Owl^> dialup...was it something from the 80s?
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> Just another resource hog
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: longhorn will just be even more evil :p
[06:01] <Owl^> heh
[06:01] <nalioth> eno: yes ssh is kewl
[06:01] <dabaR> sunrex: this is a good enough one, you just want to be spoon fed.
[06:01] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i think dialup is when your hardware screams orgasms thru the phone line to connect to the internet
[06:01] <djm62> eno: you can have good fun getting it to talk to your SO if he/she's at home
[06:01] <sunrex> Danar: i know....but im sick of having to code lunix to =/
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: IMO, ubuntu is "one of the best" linux distros
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm
[06:01] <sunrex> i know i want to be spoon fed =)
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> I could use dialup fine without KDE
[06:01] <MrBiscuit> But when i got it im not sure where to go
[06:01] <Danar> sunrex: have you heard of ansi? cross-platform code
[06:01] <dabaR> who had a question above, I was gonna answer it
[06:01] <eno> djm62: yeah I could install one of those talker programs and make it say things :P
[06:02] <sunrex> Danar: um...no
[06:02] <IceDC571> html is cross platform
[06:02] <IceDC571> what if it wasnt :)
[06:02] <djm62> eno: I went with "why won't you stop playing solitaire?" ;)
[06:02] <Danar> sunrex: uh, by 'code' you mean, programming, no?
[06:02] <dabaR> there would be a fhml
[06:02] <eno> hahaha
[06:02] <djm62> and I guessed right
[06:02] <eno> that is funny
[06:02] <IceDC571> omg i curse all the people who use ASP
[06:02] <sunrex> Danar: um...yea....lol i dont mind programing some things...but not the entire system =/
[06:02] <IceDC571> they have to maintain their site like every 1 hour
[06:02] <MrBiscuit> PHP RULZ!
[06:02] <trung> Danar, hi
[06:03] <Danar> sunrex: what are you talking about?
[06:03] <trung> Danar,  faster now
[06:03] <dabaR> retards use m$
[06:03] <|QuaD-> when i apt-get update; apt-get upgrade for breezy, how come a bunch of programs aren't upgrading
[06:03] <dabaR> hehe, I am so not pc.
[06:03] <|QuaD-> they are instead "held back"
[06:03] <IceDC571> seriously look at anyone running ASP, their websites need maintaining all the time
[06:03] <sunrex> Danar: ok ok fine...im going to have to code all my games to lol
[06:03] <Danar> trung: ...?
[06:03] <mephisto6> dabaR: ok, so I'm a retard in transition...
[06:03] <MrBiscuit> Forced to be on MS until can figure out why dialup on linux won't work...
[06:03] <Danar> sunrex: ok, either i'm misunderstanding you, or you have misunderstood something else...
[06:03] <trung> Danar, gparted you told with me
[06:04] <dabaR> |QuaD-: you forgot to rename some of your sources, maybe, or the programs have not been upgradfed in breezy, or something else.
[06:04] <IceDC571> lol.. MrBiscuit use kde for cygwin while you're at it ;)
[06:04] <sunrex> Danar: no nothing like that...i just got about 50 games that dont support Lunix =/
[06:04] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: how powerful a system do you have?
[06:04] <Danar> trung: ah. that work out?
[06:04] <dabaR> That was a stupid sentence - mine above about m$
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: that's what cedega is for
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> alrighty gonna give ubuntu a shot, wish me luck
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: google cvscedega
[06:04] <|QuaD-> dabaR: they have though
[06:04] <MrBiscuit> nalioth: P4 @ 3.00 ghz w/ ht 512 DDR ram 200 GB HD
[06:04] <sunrex> Danar: i dont got a credit card thou.
[06:04] <Danar> sunrex: don't need one. google cvscedega
[06:05] <dabaR> |QuaD-: checked the sources.list to see if you changed the names right?
[06:05] <regeya> I found the solution to my rhythmbox problem.  it was stupid.  in the toplevel dir of my music dir, there was a file named .directory.  deleting that fixed everything.  no kidding.
[06:05] <IceDC571> i think ive seen ColonelKernel before, think he was a fedora user
[06:05] <dabaR> I mean, /topic
[06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been using this since before the transition
[06:05] <dabaR> |QuaD-: you are about to break your system you know this, right?
[06:05] <eno> dmj62: do I use an output redirector to use festival, or how do I do that?
[06:05] <IceDC571> oh god, is someone upgrading to breezy again?
[06:05] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452
[06:06] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: you can use qemu
[06:06] <bigfoot1> does galeon work with Mozilla Extensions?
[06:06] <dabaR> |QuaD-: its not released...
[06:06] <djm62> eno: I can't remember the exact incantation, I think /usr/share/doc/festival/ has a quick-start guide inside it
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> qemu? What for?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: i have been fine, it is fine
[06:06] <IceDC571> ack.. dont use qemu on a low end system
[06:06] <|QuaD-> just can't figure out this
[06:06] <MrBiscuit> *Wonders if he could emulate a broadband connection...
[06:06] <IceDC571> i had to learn the hard way
[06:06] <eno> thank you again
[06:06] <djm62> eno: in general, there are some goodies to be found in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[06:06] <dabaR> ok, good then, what is your question then?
[06:06] <|QuaD-> dabaR: why are soo many packages held back
[06:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: tried Netzero 3G? lol
[06:06] <nalioth> MrBiscuit: run winduhs and linux simultaneously
[06:06] <|QuaD-> that shouldn't be happeneing
[06:06] <sunrex> Danar: there is no folder called Codecs on lib
[06:07] <dabaR> so. you have breezy already?
[06:07] <|QuaD-> dabaR: yeah
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Lol, Netzero 3G... That's like a really stupid piece of crap
[06:07] <qt2> does ubuntu use gdm?
[06:07] <eno> thanks I didn't know about that
[06:07] <Danar> sunrex: then make it: mkdir
[06:07] <trung> Danar, yes swap's size causes problem
[06:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> qt2: yes
[06:07] <djm62> eno: for X stuff, you're best to learn by playing...I'm off to bed now, have fun
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> So is AOL, MSN(gofigure) and all that other junk
[06:07] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: really? you might be fooled into thinking... its broadband... la la la
[06:07] <sunrex> danar: you mean make a folder called mkdir in lib?
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Ha
[06:07] <MrBiscuit> Its just another image compresser that looks pretty
[06:07] <Danar> sunrex: no, i mean use mkdir to make a folder called codecs
[06:07] <dabaR>  ubuntu.pastebin.nl?
[06:08] <qt2> Kamping_Kaiser, so i can get kde from synaptic, and select it for use in gdm?
[06:08] <qt2> Kamping_Kaiser, or xfce?
[06:08] <dabaR> qt2: yes
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> qt2 yes, click on sesions
[06:08] <sunrex> DanaR: lol...what is mkdir...im in the lib folder now
[06:08] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: try netzero for 30 days and receive free AOL trial for 5000 hours, plus a bonus enter to win fantastic 4 sweepstakes
[06:08] <dabaR> |QuaD-: was it ubuntu.pastebin.nl?
[06:08] <MrBiscuit> Lol, i have Juno thank you very much..
[06:09] <Danar> sunrex: that much should be obvious after my last comment. mkdir is the command to make a dir(ectory) :p
[06:09] <flask-> hey I'm getting a bunch of md5 checksum errors while using apt on ubuntu... there's a couple threads about it on the forums but it seems like a lot of them are going reported and unfixed for days... anyone else running into these?
[06:09] <|QuaD-> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/452
[06:09] <qt2> heh, except that there's no xfce in the default ubuntu repositories...
[06:09] <nalioth> flask-: the repos are wonky atm
[06:09] <MrBiscuit> Plus AOL is a resource hog, and Netzero partnered with Juno and stole all of their technologies
[06:09] <Danar> sunrex: in lib, run mkdir codecs
[06:09] <nalioths_dog> flask-: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:09] <flask-> nalioth: that's a shame... what's the sitch?
[06:09] <sunrex> DanaR: *slaps head* been away from ubuntu for awhile lol
[06:09] <nalioth> flask-: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent
[06:09] <MrBiscuit> Juno was like the first 1 gig of mail space, first dialup accelerator... etc etc
[06:09] <IceDC571> www.os-works.com has the latest xfce packages
[06:09] <mephisto6> flask: follow the dog......
[06:10] <dabaR> |QuaD-: dist-upgrade.
[06:10] <dabaR> but, I hope your system survives it:)
[06:10] <|QuaD-> dabaR: dist-upgrade removes too much
[06:10] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i havent heard of juno for years
[06:10] <```bulldogg> hello
[06:10] <Owl^> hi
[06:10] <sunrex> DanaR: ok one how do i run MKdir 2.i tried to do it manualy....it wont let me
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: here's a tip: use tab completion, both in irc and in the terminal
[06:10] <NoHope> hi all.
[06:10] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: where do you live?
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: i didn't say MKdir. i said mkdir
[06:10] <dabaR> |QuaD-: well, then, man apt-get or something, I reallydont know, maybe there is a way to force everything,
[06:10] <MrBiscuit> Mountainous area of Virginia
[06:10] <Danar> sunrex: linux is case sensitive
[06:10] <flask-> mephisto6: and then just an apt-get update ?
[06:10] <NoHope> Hey, what is the ubuntu initialization script?
[06:11] <IceDC571> NoHope: hi, i'm hi, i'm hi.. i'm hi.. i'm hi.. hi..
[06:11] <sunrex> Danar: but how do i make it lol
[06:11] <```bulldogg> I would like to install this distro.... however it does not like my sata drive and I don't have the ability to disable the SATA on my Dell Dimension 4700 can anyone help?
[06:11] <mephisto6> yes or can use synaptic; also recommended by nalioth to me
[06:11] <Danar> sunrex:  you are in lib, right?
[06:11] <Danar> sunrex: run this: sudo mkdir codecs
[06:11] <NoHope> Do you know what is the ubuntu initialization script?
[06:11] <sunrex> Danar: im new to lunix..so im not sure...yes im in it
[06:11] <IceDC571> excuse me but why is hurricane daniels the main operator in this channel?
[06:11] <flask-> bulldogg: i have a dell 4700 at work, to get it to work under Gentoo I had to set the SATA controller to some kind of legacy mode in the BIOS
[06:12] <dabaR> IceDC571: what?
[06:12] <sunrex> Danar: wait u mean from terminal?
[06:12] <bddebian> ```bulldogg: Why doesn't it like the SATA drive?
[06:12] <dabaR> sunrex: yes
[06:12] <Danar> sunrex: yes... lol
[06:12] <MrBiscuit> Gesundheit!
[06:12] <```bulldogg> I don't have that option in my bios.....
[06:12] <flask-> bulldogg: it's in there, you just gotta look for it
[06:12] <```bulldogg> it says it can't find a partitional media
[06:12] <Danar> sunrex: how else are you gonna run commands? :p
[06:12] <dabaR> open terminal, type in cd /usr/lib was it?
[06:12] <IceDC571> partitional media? lol
[06:12] <freddy> hello!!!
[06:12] <Danar>  /usr/local/lib
[06:12] <IceDC571> freddy: welcome back
[06:12] <IceDC571> freddy: i want your cat
[06:12] <```bulldogg> I have auto or disable and disable says it won't see the drive
[06:12] <nalioth> ```bulldogg: is your drive mounted right now?
[06:12] <freddy> what is up man?
[06:12] <IceDC571> not much
[06:12] <dabaR> freddy: hi/
[06:13] <MrBiscuit> DOES ANYONE IN HERE USE DIALUP!?!
[06:13] <freddy> IceDC571, my cat? lol wtf?
[06:13] <IceDC571> we have new newbs
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: so, 'cd /usr/local/lib' then 'sudo mkdir codecs'
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: *SIGH* great...how do i open it up to that now =/ i mean what do i type to get there..
[06:13] <Xyc0> What is the graphical boot up project for gentoo called?
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: you don't know how to get to a terminal?
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: no i know lol
[06:13] <dabaR> Xyc0: /join #gentoo
[06:13] <sunrex> Danar: u just anserd my question
[06:13] <Danar> sunrex: what do you propose to type to get to a terminal, which is where  you type commands in the first place? :p should be right on the menu
[06:14] <IceDC571> lol.. for all your gentoo needs, ask us
[06:14] <Danar> heh
[06:14] <IceDC571> ebuild-myass
[06:14] <freddy> IceDC571, what cat man? lol
[06:14] <Xyc0> dabaR: Its an ubuntu project too
[06:14] <dabaR> he is high, he said.
[06:14] <MrBiscuit> *Here kitty kitty kitty....
[06:14] <IceDC571> ohhh
[06:14] <dabaR> Xyc0: dunno.
[06:14] <IceDC571> Xyc0: you mean splashy?
[06:14] <sunrex> Danar: we are all newbs at some point ok :P
[06:14] <freddy> i couldnt get splashy werking :(
[06:14] <dabaR> ok
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: ok so now just copy and paist the folder right
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: yeh. i've said that before. :)
[06:15] <nalioth> freddy: open a terminal and see a man about a cat
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: er, no.
[06:15] <bddebian> MrBiscuit: My guess would be the answer is no, unfortunately
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: ..
[06:15] <MrBiscuit> ....
[06:15] <Danar> sunrex: you shouldn't have permissions to the folder. still got that terminal window?
[06:15] <Xyc0> FBSplash, thanks IceDC571
[06:15] <freddy> nalioth, IceDC571 said "i want your cat"
[06:15] <sunrex> Danar: yes :P
[06:15] <MrBiscuit> .....*eaten
[06:15] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: sorry... i tried using Xine again and it blew up...
[06:16] <dabaR> wow, blew up.
[06:16] <trung> how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it?
[06:16] <Danar> sunrex: k, go to ~ or wherever you put the file you downloaded
[06:16] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: amd64 users have lots of trouble with some things
[06:16] <MidNightRaVeN> yea.... kaboom...
[06:16] <Imsdle> my evoluiton has crashed.. can anyone tell me where the emails are stored?
[06:16] <sunrex> i put it on desktop..
[06:16] <MrBiscuit> Boom Boom
[06:16] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: you may wish to reinstall with an x86 arch
[06:16] <IceDC571> i dont think xine is good for just sound..
[06:16] <Imsdle> i need to back then up then reintall evolution
[06:16] <bddebian> OK gang, I have to get to bed, gotta catch a flight in the morning.  Take care and enjoy!
[06:16] <nalioth> Imsdle: ~/.evolution
[06:16] <MidNightRaVeN> how do i install with a x86 arch?
[06:17] <sunrex> Danar: so... CD /home/desktop/thename?
[06:17] <IceDC571> bddebian: Scooby dooby doo!!
[06:17] <bddebian> :-)
[06:17] <dabaR> bddebian: see ya.
[06:17] <Danar> sunrex: ok, 'cd ~/.desktop/'
[06:17] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: d/l a x86 install cd
[06:17] <MrBiscuit> Nalioth, qemu, where do i find that at
[06:17] <MidNightRaVeN> damnit lol
[06:17] <dabaR> why the .?
[06:17] <Imsdle> what does ~/. mean?
[06:17] <Danar> sunrex: er, ~/Desktop
[06:17] <IceDC571> because its hidden, just like my face
[06:17] <IceDC571> oh
[06:17] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: that means I'm gonna have to switch over to XP...
[06:17] <dabaR> ~/Desktop
[06:17] <Danar> Imsdle: ~ = home dir
[06:17] <trung> how update xchat to 2.4.3 ? i run software update but has no entry for it?
[06:17] <dabaR> who is hidden, desktop?
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Xp... two evil letters....
[06:18] <sunrex> Danar: cd ~/Desktop/all-29950412.bz2_FILES ?
[06:18] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[06:18] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: Athlon XP :)
[06:18] <eno> thanks for your help people, I will be back for more later :P
[06:18] <dabaR> trung: check backports if they have the version.
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Well
[06:18] <MrBiscuit> Ok sorta kinda evil letters
[06:18] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: think that'll make everything pretty much go away compared to now?
[06:18] <dabaR> eXtreme Programming.
[06:18] <Danar> sunrex: you can't cd into a file. cd = change directory
[06:18] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: ask for opinons in here, i'm by far not the smartest fella
[06:18] <sunrex> Danar: oh....LOL
[06:18] <Imsdle> there is nothing in my home directory other then the user folder
[06:19] <Danar> sunrex: cd ~/Desktop
[06:19] <trung> dabaR, what is backports?
[06:19] <dabaR> ask ubotu
[06:19] <egi> imsdle: try show hidden files
[06:19] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: the x86 arches are far more developed than amd64
[06:19] <MidNightRaVeN> has anyone messed with amd64 a lot and found that x86_64 is worse or better than just x86 on it???
[06:19] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:19] <trung> ubotu, what is backports?
[06:19] <ubotu> trung: what are you talking about?
[06:19] <sunrex> Danar: root@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib # cd ~/Desktop
[06:19] <sunrex> bash: cd: /root/Desktop: No such file or directory
[06:19] <dabaR> !backports
[06:19] <ubotu> well, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:19] <sunrex> Danar: your talking to a almost 100% newb here remember lol
[06:19] <Danar> sunrex: then, sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/
[06:19] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: a solid OS that I can watch DVDs, browse, download, etc etc
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: oh, you're root already. forget sudo then
[06:20] <Imsdle> found it
[06:20] <Imsdle> thanks
[06:20] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: so whats your problem?
[06:20] <nalioth> !info backports
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: you shouldn't be operating as root
[06:20] <sunrex> .
[06:20] <sunrex> Danar: o...
[06:20] <nalioth> !backports
[06:20] <ubotu> methinks backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: never log in as root, and don't run graphical apps as root.
[06:20] <Danar> sunrex: use sudo to run commands as root
[06:21] <sunrex> oh ITS RUNNING YAY lol.
[06:21] <misfit_toy> jok nerolinux looks great so far, testing a dvd / bin image
[06:21] <misfit_toy> -j
[06:21] <dabaR> who the dvd?
[06:21] <misfit_toy> dabaR, eh?
[06:21] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.... Maybe i should move the phone company 1800 feet closer to my house and get dsl...
[06:21] <IceDC571> i can only see the top half of the women unless i sudo
[06:21] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work
[06:21] <dabaR> misfit_toy: q was for sunrex .
[06:21] <misfit_toy> ah
[06:21] <Danar> sunrex: if you make a mistake as root you can kill your system. root is the highest authority, and it will do whatever you tell it to do, even if you tell it to delete everything (rm -rf /) cause it assumes you know what you're doing.
[06:22] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf filname /usr/local/codecs/
[06:22] <sunrex> Password:
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: filname: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: /usr/local/codecs: Not found in archive
[06:22] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:22] <sunrex> ..
[06:22] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: thats a strange error, have you tried installing your graphic drivers?
[06:22] <nalioth> sunrex:  you missed a folder
[06:22] <Danar> sunrex: heh. you were supposed to substitute 'filename' for the name of the file, which i've forgotten
[06:22] <dabaR> sunrex: replace the filname for the name of the file you are untaring
[06:22] <Danar> sunrex: you can use tab completion too
[06:23] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: well... yesterday i was helped by another Linux guru and I believe in the process of getting my sound card to work, we installed the video drivers... is there a way to double check cuz maybe not
[06:23] <nalioth> sunrex: missed "lib"
[06:23] <caskey> I've been trying to install libusb-dev and I keep getting an error: "MD5Sum mismatch", when wgetting the file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libu/libusb/libusb-dev_0.1.8-17ubuntu2_i386.deb, and manually checking, it doesn't match
[06:23] <nalioth> sunrex: /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:23] <caskey> However, when using the packages.ubuntu.com interface, I get the right md5
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, missed 'lib' too
[06:23] <sunrex> Danar: ..*sweat drops*
[06:23] <nalioths_dog> caskey: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:23] <caskey> (from mirror.clarkson.edu anyway)
[06:23] <nalioth> caskey: match your sources.list to the one the dog sent
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: heh. take it easy
[06:23] <nalioth> caskey: repos are wonky today
[06:23] <Danar> sunrex: one step at a time
[06:24] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: sorry, i dont know much.. maybe someone else could help you, what type of video card do you have?
[06:24] <MidNightRaVeN> Nvidia 6800 gt
[06:24] <ZeXr0> I'm trying to install ubuntu via NetBoot, and I have some difficulties with TFTPD on Windows Xp. Someone can help me ?
[06:24] <caskey> nalioth, This has been the case for several days, I'll remove the 'us' from my archive set though and try again
[06:24] <Danar> sunrex: so, sudo tar -jxvf FILENAME /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:24] <dabaR> caskey: that will work.
[06:25] <dabaR> nalioth: who started the group thing?
[06:25] <nalioth> caskey: you can leave them that way, it'll just round-robin you to the next available server
[06:25] <sunrex> Danar: sould i rename that file..
[06:25] <nalioth> dabaR: me and Mez
[06:25] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: a nvidia 6800 gt
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: why?
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: just use tab completion. type the first few chars and hit TAB
[06:25] <sunrex> Danar: all-29950412.bz2_FILES
[06:25] <IceDC571> MidNightRaVeN: i think it might be a video driver problem.. but i dont use nvidia so i cant help you there sorry
[06:25] <Danar> sunrex: uh, is that the actual filename?
[06:25] <caskey> nalioth, Well, whichever one I've been getting has consistently had the wrong checksum on that .deb.  Changing to just archive.ubuntu.com fixes allows me to apt-get the libusb-dev package though
[06:26] <dabaR> mez who?
[06:26] <sunrex> Danar: yes..
[06:26] <Danar> sunrex: should be all-blah.bz2
[06:26] <misfit_toy> MidNightRaVeN, what are you trying to do?
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> IceDC571: np =) thx for trying though
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> well... ok
[06:26] <sunrex> Danar: nvm...theres another folder in it..
[06:26] <nalioth> dabaR: a user in here with nickname of Mez
[06:26] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy:  as of right now whenever i use xine to play dvds it says there is an error that audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type. When nalioth tried to compile a library for me.... wouldn't work
[06:26] <nalioth> dabaR: its on the page
[06:26] <dabaR> nalioth: so whats so special about the group?
[06:26] <MrBiscuit> Anyone in here use dialup?
[06:27] <dabaR> what is the difference when I am part, from right now?
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy: can't figure out basically how to get DVDs to play cuz Totem just stalls and Xine has errors
[06:27] <ukato> anyone here use fluxbox?
[06:27] <gp_aaron> is there a package for limewire in apt?
[06:27] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: i use my cell phone.. does that count?
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> is there a rescue mode for ubuntu? I seem to have put my root password in wrong
[06:27] <nalioth> dabaR: official recognition
[06:27] <MrBiscuit> Or have a basic understanding of PPP in linux
[06:27] <dabaR> ok, now all people with a sound problem in unison...
[06:27] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: isnt PPP only for dsl?
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> w00t!
[06:27] <dabaR> hi, crimsun.
[06:27] <egi> colonelkernel: see ubuntuguide.com
[06:27] <MidNightRaVeN> sound problem...
[06:27] <sunrex> ..
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> egi - thanks
[06:28] <sunrex> Danar: crap
[06:28] <MrBiscuit> IceDC571: Not really unless you have a modemattached to it
[06:28] <The_Vox> IceDC571: no, ppp is for dialup...pppoe is for dsl
[06:28] <gp_aaron> can someone check?
[06:28] <IceDC571> ohh i see
[06:28] <MidNightRaVeN> misfit_toy: any ideas?
[06:28] <sunrex> Danar: tyler@Darkworks:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -jxvf all-20050412 /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: all-20050412: Cannot read: Is a directory
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:28] <sunrex> bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
[06:28] <sunrex>         perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible* reason follows.
[06:28] <sunrex> bzip2: Invalid argument
[06:28] <sunrex>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[06:28] <sunrex> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[06:28] <sunrex> You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
[06:28] <IceDC571> wow.. um..
[06:28] <sunrex> You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
[06:28] <sunrex> data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: /usr/local/lib/codecs: Not found in archive
[06:28] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: watch ubotu
[06:28] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from FLOOD lol
[06:28] <nalioth> !ubguide
[06:28] <ubotu> [ubguide]  Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[06:28] <MrBiscuit> I ran pppconfig correctly with KDE,exactly like i ran it without it
[06:28] <IceDC571> its like im in an actual terminal of errors right now
[06:28] <nalioths_dog> egi: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:29] <MrBiscuit> And now i don't how to connect because it changed around alot of stuff
[06:29] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, sounds like it wasn't finished downloading
[06:29] <gp_aaron> anyone got a freesecond?
[06:29] <egi> nalioths_dog: thx
[06:29] <crimsun> gp_aaron: shoot
[06:29] <nalioth> sunrex: please do not flood in here
[06:29] <IceDC571> nalioth: do you have a cat?
[06:29] <mephisto6> follow the dog......lol
[06:29] <stanford> I don't understand how to install firefox update 1.04.  What do I do?
[06:29] <Danar> sunrex: delete it from the desktop, and in the terminal, run 'cd ~' then 'wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2'
[06:29] <ColonelKernel> ubuntuguide.com not found
[06:29] <sunrex> Danar:..great...it SAID finished...
[06:29] <sunrex> Nalioth: sorry
[06:30] <nalioth> IceDC571: every linux user has a cat
[06:30] <gp_aaron> thanks crimsun, can you check if limewire is in the apt repo for ubuntu?
[06:30] <ColonelKernel> ahhh sorry about that
[06:30] <dabaR> he can tell you without checking.
[06:30] <ColonelKernel> I had to google - my isp's dns servers are hurting right now
[06:30] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have an nvidia system and 64 and no anything about the two together???
[06:30] <MidNightRaVeN> know*
[06:30] <dabaR> funny, you asked the right [person.
[06:30] <IceDC571> so.. who wants to show me pics of their cats?
[06:30] <gp_aaron> nalioth, I don't have a cat
[06:31] <nalioth> gp_aaron: sure you do, open a terminal and call one
[06:31] <dabaR> gp_aaron: try cat in a terminal
[06:31] <trung> hehe
[06:31] <dabaR> gp_aaron: limewire can be downloaded from their site, and then it runs, cause its Java.
[06:31] <gp_aaron> oh i thought you ment pet cat:P
[06:31] <MidNightRaVeN> blegh.... so tired... dieing.... wishes ubuntu would just work....
[06:31] <sunrex> Danar: am i supposed to do this in ROOT terminal
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: also, i goofed the command. you should actually cd into /usr/local/lib/codecs, and run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: no
[06:31] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: ask crimsun.
[06:31] <Danar> sunrex: avoid root and use sudo
[06:31] <gp_aaron> dabaR, I know that, I just wondering if it is in the repo
[06:32] <dabaR> it is not.
[06:32] <gp_aaron> ok
[06:32] <gp_aaron> thanks
[06:32] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: are you busy?
[06:32] <dabaR> welcome
[06:32] <gp_aaron> I don't use ubuntu anymore so I don't know these things
[06:32] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: hi
[06:32] <Danar> sunrex: so, did it download?
[06:32] <Yuki> does anyone know what the command is for emerging things like KDE?
[06:32] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: i don't mean to bother you... but you think you might be able to help me?
[06:32] <sunrex> Danar: yes
[06:32] <crimsun> gp_aaron: you can check via http://package.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <dabaR> Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <nalioth> Yuki: emerging? you mean d/l and installing?
[06:33] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: with?
[06:33] <Danar> sunrex: and ?
[06:33] <Yuki> yeah
[06:33] <IceDC571> oh god.. emerging in ubuntu
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: and?
[06:33] <crimsun> gp_aaron: that's packages.ubuntu.com, sorry
[06:33] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: stop beating around the bush, ask the question,.
[06:33] <Yuki> I kinda don't want to use GNOME, I'd rather have KDE
[06:33] <IceDC571> pretty soon gentoo people will use the command evolve and think they're kool with KDE
[06:33] <mephisto6> Gotta crash. Many thanks dabaR, nalioth, naloths_dog!!
[06:33] <dabaR> :)
[06:33] <dabaR> see ya
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: was i supposed to exstract it..
[06:33] <Danar> sunrex: did you cd to the codecs dir, and extract the files?
[06:33] <gp_aaron> crimsun, I got it thanks though, Yuki kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <sunrex> Danar: oops...gotta redownload lol
[06:34] <packman_e> hello all
[06:34] <gp_aaron> thanks crimsun, dabaR
[06:34] <gp_aaron> bye now
[06:34] <dabaR> Yuki: see my command above
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: what? again?
[06:34] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: i can't read DVDs cuz I get an error in Xine saying audio_decoder: error, unknown buffer type and I dunno what to do about it... Totem just freezes if i try it and Xine as well keeps crashing Ubuntu
[06:34] <IceDC571> its like.. im a newb gentoo user how do i upgrade firefox?.... easy, use evolve firefox
[06:34] <sunrex> Danar: yup lol
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: don't tell me you downloaded it just to delete it??
[06:34] <qt2> I have a geforce 4 mx440, should i get nvidia-glx?
[06:34] <Yuki> ok
[06:34] <Yuki> but is it possible to emerge KDE in ubuntu?
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: then what was the point of downloading it? o.O
[06:34] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: does sound work in other contexts?
[06:34] <nalioth> crimsun: MidNightRaVeN is using amd64 arch
[06:34] <IceDC571> Evolving firefox... omg im freakin out!!
[06:34] <The_Vox> qt2: sure
[06:34] <qt2> Yuki, yet, cia synaptic.
[06:34] <ZeXr0> (Anyone ever install Ubuntu via NetBoot
[06:34] <Danar> sunrex: you were supposed to delete the old one :p
[06:34] <trung> qt2, why not?
[06:35] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: yea, it works fine with cds and such
[06:35] <dabaR> Yuki: like, compile it?
[06:35] <nalioth> ZeXr0: you can do it that way
[06:35] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[06:35] <nalioth> ZeXr0: takes a bit of work
[06:35] <sunrex> Danar: doesnt work
[06:35] <Danar> sunrex: cd to ~, and press up until you see the wget command again, and run it
[06:35] <dabaR> cause emerge means nothing in ubuntu
[06:35] <Danar> sunrex: what doesn't?
[06:35] <IceDC571> i just realized
[06:35] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: nalioth tried helping with that and compiling it from source... but couldn't get it to work cuz of my 64
[06:35] <ZeXr0> nalioth: else if there is any floppy that I can install ubuntu from, because I don't have cddrive
[06:35] <IceDC571> people say two point O instead of two point zero
[06:35] <IceDC571> thats neat!
[06:35] <sunrex> Danar: if i posed it here i would be banned for flooding
[06:36] <IceDC571> like 2.0
[06:36] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: so no it's not installed
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: that's what pastebins are for
[06:36] <sunrex> ?
[06:36] <Yuki> yeah, I want to use KDE instead of GNOME
[06:36] <Yuki> is that possible?
[06:36] <BeefTube> just installed the ATI drivers and the control pannel... anyone know how I can open the control pannel? TIA :)
[06:36] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: it's available from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: /join #flood
[06:36] <nalioth> ZeXr0: got your pencil?
[06:36] <Danar> sunrex: you can paste in there
[06:36] <mig> hi, am using ubuntu live-cd, how do i make changes permanent?
[06:36] <dabaR> Yuki: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, again.
[06:36] <IceDC571> ack marillat?!?
[06:36] <Yuki> ah ok
[06:36] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: but how do i install it?
[06:36] <Yuki> tyty
[06:36] <nalioth> Yuki: yes, use synaptic to install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:37] <Danar> mig: you'd have to install it to the hard drive. it's not a rewriteable cd
[06:37] <Ninwa> mig, I believe the idea of a live-cd is that it's not permanent.
[06:37] <Yuki> how long will it take?
[06:37] <dabaR> welcome
[06:37] <ZeXr0> nalioth :.. got a floppy drive and a NetWork card that's all
[06:37] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: sorry man, i'm very tired, i forgot marillat
[06:37] <Danar> Ninwa: no, that's an often useful sideaffect :p
[06:37] <dabaR> download times depend on download speed.
[06:37] <nalioth> ZeXr0: ok you ready to write (or log)
[06:37] <ZeXr0> yeah
[06:37] <mig> hmm, ninwa/danar...not possible to save some settings to HD?
[06:37] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: you should add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[06:37] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: not your fault. What is it?
[06:37] <Yuki> will it take 3 days like gentoo does?  XD
[06:38] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: follow crimsuns advice
[06:38] <Danar> mig: well, you could for certain apps, like firefox, but you'd have to configure it each time to use those settings
[06:38] <dabaR> crimsun: what is the aptitude equivalent of apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*?
[06:38] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[06:38] <Ninwa> Danar, Assuming the disc was rewritable, I suppose... disk-writing would be unbearably slow though.
[06:38] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: im bad at the whole source list thing... so let me try
[06:38] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$ sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tartar: /home/tyler/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:38] <sunrex> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:38] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$
[06:38] <dabaR> Yuki: less, there is no compilation involved.
[06:38] <IceDC571> Kopete ate my dog
[06:38] <nalioth> ZeXr0: go to debian.org and download the woody netinst floppy images
[06:38] <Yuki> how long do you think?
[06:38] <Ninwa> I didn't know people still used Kopete.
[06:38] <BeefTube> fglrx does nothing from commandline... how can I tweak my ATI settings? I installed a control pannel... TIA :)
[06:38] <dabaR> sunrex, please use http://pastebin.com
[06:38] <mig> runnig live-cd, i cannot see my 3 HDs installed on the box..???
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, you ran the old command i told you. i had it backwards though
[06:39] <The_Vox> Ninwa: I use kopete...what's wrong with it?
[06:39] <IceDC571> Ninwa: what do people use for chatting in KDE then?
[06:39] <dabaR> yuki, again, I told you, download time depends on download speed.
[06:39] <stanford> How do I update firefox in ubuntu?
[06:39] <mig> i was hoping to save live-cd settings in a partition/..
[06:39] <crimsun> dabaR: the metapackage? gstreamer0.8-plugins? (or do you mean the syntax, which is identical to apt-get's in that context)
[06:39] <dabaR> you are downloading there.
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: do it exactly like this...
[06:39] <Ninwa> The_Vox, Nothing I suppose. IceDC571, XChat and Gaim of course!
[06:39] <dabaR> yes, for a *
[06:39] <eskaypey> hey if i excidently deleted gnome system panel is there a way how to restore it?
[06:39] <Yuki> hm, so how big is the file then?  That'll answer my question better XD
[06:39] <reka> stanford: the ubuntu version already has 1.0.4's security updates
[06:39] <Danar> sunrex: after downloading the file in ~ cd to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:39] <nalioth> ZeXr0: make sure you get all the images (you'll be installing a very minimal debian)
[06:39] <dabaR> crimsun: if you dont get that, cause it was a little weird, aptitude does not recognize *
[06:40] <stanford> reka, so its a bug?
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> ubuntu rocks
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: then run sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:40] <dabaR> yuki it gets a lot of files, please try, I have no clue
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> worked out of the box for me
[06:40] <The_Vox> Ninwa: gaim looks ugly on kde and there's nothing practical that it has that kopete doesn't have, at least in what I use/need
[06:40] <Yuki> lol ok
[06:40] <dabaR> why do you think I would know the size of some file?
[06:40] <nalioth> ZeXr0: when you get this minimal debian (woody) installed, put this sources.list in place of the one that came with teh debian
[06:40] <Yuki> thanks though ^^
[06:40] <reka> stanford: what is?
[06:40] <stanford> reka, mozilla.org says i don't have .04
[06:40] <hondje> stanford: it's a feature
[06:40] <nalioths_dog> ZeXr0: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:40] <sunrex> Danar: how do i put the files in there thou
[06:40] <stanford> reka, and in "about firefox" it says 1.04
[06:40] <mig> hmm...so i guess it is much better to actually install ubuntu, than use live-cd??
[06:40] <nalioth> ZeXr0: the link the dog sent you
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: oops. filename might be different. use tab completion
[06:40] <dabaR> crimsun: so, there is the metapackage for all gstreamers, then?
[06:40] <Danar> sunrex: what do you mean?
[06:41] <dabaR> welcome
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have trouble with an Atheros card ?
[06:41] <reka> stanford: type about:config in the address bar
[06:41] <ZeXr0> okay :P
[06:41] <Danar> sunrex: it's an archive. that's what you're doing
[06:41] <dabaR> we need a !anyone
[06:41] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: like i said... i stink at the whole source list thing... how should it look in the source list file?? like ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ and something before and after it?
[06:41] <reka> stanford: then filter for "vendorsub"
[06:41] <nalioth> ZeXr0: at that poing, you can "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and have ubuntu
[06:41] <The_Vox> stanford: read what the whole page they pop at you says....it's an ubuntu/kubuntu package problem, and the solution is right on an URL in that page
[06:41] <reka> stanford: then change the value to 1.0.4
[06:41] <Danar> sunrex: i'm telling you how to extract the files into that dir
[06:41] <crimsun> dabaR: there's gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:41] <dabaR> exactly as he said above, MidNightRaVeN .
[06:41] <sunrex> Danar: so all i type is this sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2.tar
[06:41] <ZeXr0> nalioth I can't do that now if I already have debian installed ?
[06:41] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: enter the entire deb line that I gave you
[06:41] <dabaR> ok, cool, so how about the asterisk thing, does aptitude do that?
[06:42] <nalioth> ZeXr0: if its woody, certainly
[06:42] <stanford> reka, ok i wasn't quite sure what it was saying.  I thought that would be called a bug
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: er, type ~/all<tab> instead
[06:42] <sunrex> Danar: BINGO FOUND PROBLEM theres no TAR on end
[06:42] <egi> ColonelKernel, what was your question? :D
[06:42] <nalioth> ZeXr0: this method is not pretty at all from sarge/sid/etch
[06:42] <dabaR> cause you have the folder.
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: that is, hit tab, not typing '<tab>'
[06:42] <sunrex> Danar:..
[06:42] <Danar> sunrex: well if you had listened to me, that wouldn't be a problem. i said before to use tab completion
[06:42] <eskaypey> is there a way how to restore original gnome panel?
[06:43] <reka> stanford: yes...but one with a solution :)
[06:43] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: does it matter that it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" ?
[06:43] <crimsun> dabaR: use ~
[06:43] <jasmuz> eskaypey: none that i know of...but you remember where things went, right?
[06:43] <nalioth> MidNightRaVeN: that doesnt matter
[06:43] <Danar> sunrex: for some reason there is on mine. it's firefox's fault
[06:43] <dabaR> eskaypey: you removed stuff from it? try right clicking, and add to panel what you want on it.
[06:43] <ZeXr0> nalioth okay :P thanks for the info, I will try this tomorow :P thank you :)
[06:43] <dabaR> crimsun: ah.
[06:43] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: see wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[06:43] <MidNightRaVeN> nalioth: kk
[06:43] <sunrex> Danar: the tab worked before...now it wont completion...and it still doent for for downloading
[06:43] <nalioth> ZeXr0: np
[06:43] <eskaypey> dabaR: no removed the actual panel
[06:44] <```bulldogg> okay what is the default root password for ubuntu
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: how would tab completion "work" for downloading???
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: what're you trying to do now?
[06:44] <Xyc0> Anyone know how to autosignin with GAIM on freenode?  It works on anything else...
[06:44] <sunrex> Danar: i mean  it wont pick up the file
[06:44] <dabaR> right click on a panel, new panel
[06:44] <dabaR> then add to the panel what you want on it.
[06:44] <egi> ```bulldogg, no root password is initially set
[06:44] <sunrex> Danar: sould i extract it on the desktop then use the thing?
[06:44] <dabaR> not sure if you can get the old one, tho.
[06:44] <eskaypey> k
[06:44] <```bulldogg> okay so how do I set it?
[06:44] <reka> ```bulldogg: more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[06:44] <nalioths_dog> ```bulldogg: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:44] <egi> ```bulldogg, use sudo all the time
[06:44] <turkey> anyone know anything about belkin pcmcia wired nic and an old laptop?
[06:44] <ZeXr0> nalioth i'll give you a feedback of that :P
[06:44] <Danar> sunrex: simply type sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:45] <nalioth> ZeXr0: please do
[06:45] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: after install of libdvdcss it still gives same audio_decoder error...
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: i am and nothings happening
[06:45] <Danar> sunrex: it should at least say not found
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: do you mean ALL or do i put in somthing else...
[06:45] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: libdvdcss2, not libdvdcss
[06:45] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: did you check what sound output its using?
[06:45] <sunrex> Danar: it doesnt
[06:46] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: what are you trying to play?
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: you mean xine or something else?
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: a dvd
[06:46] <Danar> sunrex: i mean, type the first 3 chars of the filename, which are a, l, l. then hit tab
[06:46] <sunrex> Danar:i mean tab isint working like it was =/ wont pick up on anything
[06:46] <sunrex> Danar: i am...nothings happening
[06:46] <```bulldogg> figured it out thanks
[06:46] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: xine dosent play my dvd's correctly...i do it via Mplayer
[06:46] <MidNightRaVeN> crimsun: it was libdvdcss2... just forgot the 2 part
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: clear everything on the command line, and type cd /et<tab>
[06:47] <HumbleBeefTube> anyone know how to launch the ATI control pannel from commandline?
[06:47] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: hmmm, what happened when you tried to play it in xine?
[06:47] <crimsun> MidNightRaVeN: what application?
[06:47] <Jormundgand> Beagle is indescribably awesome.
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: substitute <tab> with the tab key, of course
[06:47] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: gave me the same error you have
[06:47] <sunrex> that worked..
[06:47] <dabaR> ok, later, Im out, Ubuntu to all of you:)
[06:47] <sunrex> Danar: that worked..
[06:47] <Danar> sunrex: then you probably had a space at the beginning or something
[06:48] <GigaClon> hi all
[06:48] <Danar> sunrex: try again
[06:48] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: if this works... o man will i be happy!
[06:48] <sunrex> sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:48] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: try using mplayer, it did play my dvd
[06:48] <sunrex> danar:sudo tar -jxvf ~/all<tab>
[06:48] <Danar> sunrex: yeh.. subbing <tab> with the tab key
[06:49] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: just installed... going to try... pray for me!
[06:49] <sunrex> danar: you sure thats the correct command?
[06:49] <cleit0n> hi, how i mount cdrom or hd in user mode?
[06:49] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: use the menu, and select the chapter you want
[06:49] <Danar> sunrex: i'm telling you to use tab completion to complete the filename, so you don't make a mistake
[06:49] <Danar> sunrex: and also for ease, and efficiency
[06:49] <sunrex> Danar: and im telling u its not filling anything in....
[06:50] <jasmuz> cleit0n: sudo mount /dev/xxx /mountpointx
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: then the file is not there, or you're not in the right directory
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar: right..
[06:50] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: how do i select the chapter?
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar:Darkworks:/usr/local/lib/codecs$
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: either you forgot to redownload it, or you deleted it again, or you didn't save it there, or...
[06:50] <sunrex> Danar: the file is on desktop..
[06:50] <Danar> sunrex: yeh
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: arg, you didn't listen
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: ..sorry...just having truble following along lol
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: this would have been done an hour ago if you had followed my directions :/
[06:51] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: left click on the screen, dvd->open dvd
[06:51] <Danar> sunrex: k, you never ran wget then
[06:51] <dabaR> Danar: he has a folder with teh extracted file in it.
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: =/ i noticed *sigh*
[06:51] <dabaR> just mv it to the new location.
[06:51] <sunrex> Danar: wget...wget...huh..
[06:51] <buffbikedude> does anyone know of a self-contained script or x86 binary I can download that would convert a file from mp3 to flac?
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: so the path you were specifying is wrong cause you didn't put it where i said. that's why tab completion failed
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: yeh, at one point i said to wget <the url here>
[06:52] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: dont do that
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: from ~
[06:52] <buffbikedude> jasmuz: for what reason? space or legality?
[06:52] <Danar> sunrex: that would have put it where i expected it to be. when you said you had finished downloading it again, i thought you did it with wget
[06:52] <sunrex> Danar:ok....so what i do...just give me a list LOL
[06:53] <Danar> sunrex: i did give a list. you skipped a few steps :p
[06:53] <sunrex> Danar:OH sorry
[06:53] <dabaR> danar write out a pastebin
[06:53] <Danar> heh
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: you already lost the quality when it was recorded from the original to the mp3 (mp3 is Lossy, looses bits and pieces everywhere)
[06:53] <qt2> what's this 'aptitude' everyone is talking about, i have 'synaptic'... o.O;
[06:53] <dabaR> or a script even:)
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: you should try from mp3 to ogg
[06:53] <Danar> lol, not a bad idea
[06:53] <DekaPink> I keep getting an error when I'm trying to apt-get stuff.... its in the pastebin. :3
[06:53] <sunrex> Danar:so...what do i do lol
[06:53] <dabaR> qt2: aptitude is just kinda like a command line synaptic
[06:53] <buffbikedude> jasmuz: well transcoding to ogg causes a further loss in quality, does it not?
[06:53] <qt2> ah
[06:53] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: ogg is lossy too but has a better compression scheme
[06:54] <dabaR> DekaPink: a md5sum error?
[06:54] <sunrex> Danar:cant you just remote accsess my computer? lol
[06:54] <DekaPink> dabaR: Yeah.
[06:54] <buffbikedude> jazmuz: but isn't it different enough that you cannot transcode from mp3 to ogg without a sharp drop in quality?
[06:54] <cleit0n> jasmuz: only ?
[06:54] <dabaR> DekaPink: remove us. from the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:54] <qt2> hm, does ubuntu run on xorg?
[06:54] <jasmuz> buffbikedude: not really...depends on how compressed you want it know...still the diference isnt easy to note
[06:54] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: i can't find where it says DVD...
[06:54] <dabaR> qt2: hoary does.
[06:54] <MrBiscuit> Anyone here now use dialup or understand PPP on Linux?
[06:55] <qt2> dabaR, does that mean i can just drop in the xorg config file from my gentoo install?
[06:55] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: left click says clearly DVD
[06:55] <DekaPink> dabaR: Thank you. :)
[06:55] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: i do!
[06:55] <sunrex> Danar:so what do i do *crys*
[06:55] <buffbikedude> ok then, I'll repose the question. does anyone know where I can get a self-contained mp3 to ogg executable?
[06:55] <MrBiscuit> jasmuz: Do you use KDE?
[06:55] <dabaR> qt2: hopefully:) make a backup of the one that is there now.
[06:55] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: not on mine.... should i get the regular mplayer and not the one that says 64 ?
[06:55] <qt2> dabaR, oki ;)
[06:56] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: no i use Gnome, but have used KDE
[06:56] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[06:56] <dabaR> then if you screw up, go to the console alt+ctrl+f4 and rename the file again.
[06:56] <dabaR> backup-rename the current file
[06:56] <dabaR> then rename it back if it gets borged.
[06:56] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: what do you get when you run Mplayer?
[06:56] <Adross> I was at a lan the other day, and, as such, using Windows. Some kid brought a virus and, due to it really screwing me over, I had to format. Since the format however, GRUb won't allow me to boot into windows at all, instead presenting me an 'unknown partition type' error. Out of desperation, I formatted Ubuntu thinking that Grub would detect it as normal. This wasn't the case, as nothing was detected. So please, can somebody shed some light on t
[06:56] <Adross> he situation? As I have another lan to go to.
[06:56] <MrBiscuit> jasmuz: How did you set upand connect using KDE
[06:56] <reka> buffbikedude: mp32ogg
[06:56] <MrBiscuit> setup*
[06:56] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: just a little screen that looks like an audio file player
[06:57] <dabaR> local area network?
[06:57] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: doesn't have any open screen or anything
[06:57] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: come again
[06:57] <MrBiscuit> How did you set up a PPP connection and connect to the internet using it on KDE?
[06:57] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: odd :/
[06:57] <Trace> Hello, when i use alsamixer to show my sound config, Pcm and Master are just 0, i can't up or down the sound , can anybody help me ?
[06:57] <dabaR> Adross: lan?
[06:57] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: use kppp
[06:57] <egi> MrBiscuit, have u tried kppp?
[06:57] <MrBiscuit> Yea
[06:57] <buffbikedude> reka: I'm looking there. they're saying that it loses data, in red. I'm thinking maybe mp32flac would be a better solution for me.
[06:58] <MrBiscuit> It connects me
[06:58] <MrBiscuit> But stays at the screen Logging on to Network
[06:58] <Lufusol> Adross: use lilo :P
[06:58] <crimsun> Trace: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:58] <MidNightRaVeN> as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> imageshack is amazing.. I don't know how they remain free..
[06:58] <Lufusol> heh
[06:58] <jasmuz> Trace: what is your pc?
[06:58] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: as well... when i look at the Sounds and Audio tab and look at mplayer... it just has a little icon of a browser looking thing... no like icon
[06:58] <adwait> hey ppl
[06:58] <Adross> Lufusol, i don't think that would work, as it seems to be a partition error
[06:59] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: did you check the protocol you are using to identify, it must be PAP
[06:59] <Adross> i have tried reformating windows to no avail
[06:59] <Trace> snd-intel8x0
[06:59] <dabaR> oh, hes back, cause i thought the join notice was false.
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> It is
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> But how would i use a connection i made in pppconfig
[06:59] <Trace> and my sound card is integrated.
[06:59] <adwait> dabaR: :p
[06:59] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: your mplayer is strange
[06:59] <dabaR> Adross: what is a lan?
[06:59] <Adross> local area network
[06:59] <MrBiscuit> Local Area Net
[06:59] <Trace> Silicon Integrated System, 1039:7012
[06:59] <dabaR> ok, why does one have to use windows on a lan?
[06:59] <Adross> computer party, we go over to each others house with our comps and play games
[06:59] <adwait> MrBiscuit: LAN connection in pppconfig? maybe u should use pppoe?
[06:59] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: go to the run area, and type pon
[07:00] <Adross> for games, as i don't yet have cedega
[07:00] <adwait> *pppoeconfig
[07:00] <dabaR> aha.
[07:00] <MrBiscuit> adwait; No i have dialup
[07:00] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: when i get it from synaptic, it says amd64 - mplayer so maybe i dunno... is that the one you have?
[07:00] <Adross> anyone get any ideas?
[07:00] <adwait> ooh ok...
[07:00] <dabaR> so, what are you saying, you have one HD, Adross ?
[07:00] <crimsun> Trace: give me the lspci -v audio line
[07:00] <Adross> yes, partitioned
[07:00] <crimsun> Trace: paste the output to the pastebin in the topic
[07:00] <MrBiscuit> pon? How will i know if it's connected or not
[07:00] <dabaR> ok, and you have windows, and ubuntu installed?
[07:00] <buffbikedude> the mp32ogg page is funny, because it links directly to a page that says what mp32ogg allows them to do is generally a bad idea
[07:00] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:00] <dabaR> and you had ubuntu, and reinstalled windows?
[07:00] <Adross> dabaR, yess
[07:00] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: no, but i dont have an AMD64 either
[07:01] <umar> hello all
[07:01] <dabaR> and ubuntu still works? you did not install windows right.
[07:01] <Adross> dabaR, yes, and just now, reinstalled ubuntu
[07:01] <jasmuz> MrBiscuit: you will know when you have internet connectivity
[07:01] <umar> any linux database programmer here?
[07:01] <Trace> 0000:00:02.7 Mulitimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated System[sis] 5513[IDE] 
[07:01] <MrBiscuit> Ok, thanks
[07:01] <dabaR> after installing windows on top of ubuntu, ubuntu should not load.
[07:01] <MrBiscuit> I'll try it out
[07:01] <buffbikedude> what do you mean database programmer?
[07:01] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: yea... so maybe it's different cuz it's the 64 bit version...=/
[07:01] <dabaR> did it load, Adross ?
[07:01] <Trace> Subsystem: Unknown device 1849:7012
[07:01] <Lufusol> Adross: why did you reinstall ubuntu again?
[07:01] <Adross> ubuntu is working right now, after reinstalled windows, i came into no problems with ubuntu. I know, odd
[07:02] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: probably, i wouldnt know for sure
[07:02] <Adross> xp loaded right after install, then the grub would not load
[07:02] <dabaR> Adross: ya, did windows ever boot after the install?
[07:02] <dabaR> yeah, that should be like that.
[07:02] <umar> i mean to ask how can we have a database in linux and a prgramming language which provides us interface for that database
[07:02] <adwait> Adross: expected
[07:02] <MidNightRaVeN> jasmuz: thx for the advice though cuz i'll try working a bit more on it
[07:02] <vaultspawn> Linux Newbie here..........downloaded realplayer install package........how do you install this on my computer appropriately???
[07:02] <dabaR> ok, so then you reinstalled ubuntu, and now grub comes up?
[07:02] <Adross> i reinstalled ubuntu just now because grub recahces all the os's installed. It was my last ditch efford
[07:02] <umar> like Visual Basic and SQL Server in windows
[07:02] <jasmuz> MidNightRaVeN: you are wlcomed
[07:02] <Adross> no, thats it, ubuntu is the only detected os
[07:02] <dabaR> Adross: you could have just reinstalled grub.
[07:03] <Adross> i would of came to the same result
[07:03] <dabaR> but grub comes up, right?
[07:03] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: that plainly sucks.
[07:03] <MidNightRaVeN> does anyone have the canadian source list?
[07:03] <Lufusol> grub lives in the MBR - installing XP wipes it out - reinstalling Ubuntu puts it back...
[07:03] <MidNightRaVeN> or know where i can find it?
[07:03] <vaultspawn> yes it does
[07:03] <dabaR> MidNightRaVeN: just add ca. in front of all uurls.
[07:03] <Adross> no, it doesn't. at least it didn't when i first booted my new ubuntu install
[07:03] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: you should install it from the repositories
[07:04] <dabaR> ya, mayube you need to ress a button.
[07:04] <nalioth_zZz> Lufusol: no need to reinstall
[07:04] <vaultspawn> ok
[07:04] <sunrex> anyone know how to make a DVD normal looking and not fuzzy...
[07:04] <dabaR> or something during load to show grub.
[07:04] <dabaR> whats fuzzy?
[07:04] <MidNightRaVeN> dabaR: do you have just a simple source list then cuz mine has been altered so many times i just want a fresh one i guess you could say
[07:04] <Adross> hmm, in that case, it seems probable that xp, at least the disk i used, did not correctly write to the boot section
[07:04] <Lufusol> what i'm saying is WHEN he reinstalled, it put grub back
[07:04] <vaultspawn> dumb question......what is a repository??
[07:04] <Danar_> sunrex: sorry, guess i had connection trouble
[07:04] <sunrex> Danar:ah
[07:04] <Danar_> sunrex: did you carry out those commands?
[07:04] <Lufusol> how else would grub be loading after he reinstalled XP, unless he followed it with some other installation of linux that puts GRUB in the mbr?
[07:04] <nalioth_zZz> Lufusol: for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:04] <qt2> err, are there any more... well rounded... apt repositories...?
[07:04] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: is a server that hosts the sofware for the OS
[07:05] <dabaR> www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list add ca. in front of all urls, and try updating, the security.ubuntu.com may not work, so remove the ca. from it after.
[07:05] <vaultspawn> got it
[07:05] <sunrex> Danar:i need to know what i missed
[07:05] <nalioth_zZz> for whomever needs it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:05] <trung> "libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:05] <trung> ?
[07:05] <Lufusol> nalioth that section of the wiki is good, here is the GRUB manual also: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[07:05] <Fikrann> Hello everyone
[07:05] <nalioth_zZz> qt2 you should stick with official repos, or your system may suffer
[07:05] <Adross> i assure you i did not put it back, my guess is xp didn't take it away for some reason, perhaps it had trouble writing to the mbr
[07:05] <Danar_> sunrex: did you see the commands in #flood/
[07:05] <dabaR> install the .so thing.
[07:05] <Adross> this would explain a lot
[07:05] <adwait> trung: apt-get it maybe
[07:05] <adwait> ?
[07:05] <Razor-X> the Grub docs are awesome
[07:05] <dabaR> hi, Fikrann .
[07:05] <vaultspawn> jasmuz: thanks
[07:05] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[07:05] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:06] <Razor-X> OMG, It seems I don't need to think to do emacs binds any longer ;)
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar: u mean from the list i posed
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:POSTED
[07:06] <jasmuz> vaultspawn: use that link that ubotu posted
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:i saw u join..dont see any commands
[07:06] <trung> adwait, what is name of it?
[07:06] <Razor-X> sunrex: please do not use caps to corret spelling errors
[07:06] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: no, i told you to look in #flood
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: then i posted a list of commands
[07:06] <vaultspawn> i will.....thanks for the help
[07:06] <dabaR> Razor-X: please dont be a nazi.
[07:06] <Danar_> sunrex: guess i was out longer than i thought
[07:06] <sunrex> Danar:no i didint see em
[07:06] <dabaR> bah
[07:07] <Razor-X> dabaR: it's common nettiquette, caps==shouting
[07:07] <Danar_> sunrex: k, look in flood again
[07:07] <adwait> jung: umm.....libgtk i guess?
[07:07] <dabaR> I am just getting on your case...
[07:07] <trung> jasmuz, i use synaptic and have many name match with libgtk
[07:07] <sunrex> Danar:k
[07:07] <Lufusol> Adross: well getting back to your problem.. just to confirm the situation.. grub loads, into what, command line mode or the menu?
[07:07] <IceDC571> why do people use slackware?
[07:07] <adwait> trung: uuh....no thts not it
[07:07] <dabaR> is there one that completely matches the one the program asked for, trung ?
[07:07] <Razor-X> IceDC571: because it's highly-configurable
[07:08] <Razor-X> and powerful
[07:08] <Adross> grub loaded into the normal menu. Ubuntu, memtest, and xp
[07:08] <Adross> loading xp would fail
[07:08] <Lufusol> ok.  And ubuntu works fine
[07:08] <Danar_> IceDC571: some people like it. why do you not?
[07:08] <Lufusol> what error does it give when you choose xp?
[07:08] <jasmuz> trung: what are you looking to install?
[07:08] <Adross> with it saying there was an ntldr error and partition was unreadbale
[07:08] <Adross> yes, ubuntu works fine
[07:08] <Lufusol> ahhhhhhh
[07:08] <Danar_> IceDC571: it's the oldest distro..
[07:08] <Razor-X> Adross: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and put it on pastebin
[07:08] <IceDC571> i dont know, i mean.. do you have to build everything from source in slack?
[07:08] <jasmuz> IceDC571: because they like geezers
[07:08] <Adross> for 99% of the time, this is fine. But i'm going to a lan
[07:08] <Razor-X> or #flood, if you don't want to leave IRC
[07:09] <Danar_> sunrex: you can delete the file on your desktop
[07:09] <Adross> kk, #flood it is
[07:09] <trung> jasmuz, i don't know just error
[07:09] <sunrex> danar: k...so do i do each one at one time
[07:09] <Adross> hmm, no windows
[07:09] <jasmuz> trung: what is your issue?...multiple entries of the same file in synaptic?
[07:10] <dabaR> ha, I learned how to switch "windows" in irssi:P
[07:10] <Lufusol> Adross: "NTLDR is missing, press any key to restart"  ?
[07:11] <sunrex> Danar:DOWNLOADING
[07:11] <dabaR> jasmuz: his issue is that some program does not load, cause the program wants libgtk1.02.so or something like that.
[07:11] <Razor-X> #flood is a definite use for emacs
[07:11] <Danar_> sunrex: yeh, just one line at a time
[07:11] <trung> jasmuz,  yes
[07:11] <Razor-X> hmmm, i'm seeing why pastebin is more desired ;)
[07:11] <trung> jasmuz, what name of package that included libgtk-1.2.so.0
[07:12] <jasmuz> trung: what program is asking you for libgtk?
[07:12] <sunrex> Danar: k what after sudo tar -jxvf ~/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[07:12] <Lufusol> ADROSS: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/ntldr_missing.htm
[07:12] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: you'll really like irssi if you use it with "gnu screen"
[07:12] <Adross> that was the error, back when grub had windows
[07:12] <Adross> now it didn't detect it at all
[07:12] <Adross> can u still help me?
[07:12] <dabaR> what is gnu screen?
[07:12] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: anything is better with GNU screen
[07:12] <Danar_> !ops
[07:12] <ubotu> ops is probably bob2 daniels
[07:12] <Adross> i know what ntldr is
[07:12] <Yuki> is there an email client I can install?
[07:12] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: then, you can access your irssi from any where (library computer, etc) that has ssh
[07:12] <Adross> boot error
[07:12] <Razor-X> dabaR: it's a form of multiple-terminal management using the CLI
[07:13] <Danar_> can one of you kill my ghost nick? Danar
[07:13] <Razor-X> Adross: done?
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: that link isn't just telling you what it is
[07:13] <dabaR> why couldnt I now? its cli...
[07:13] <trung> jasmuz, purebasic.com
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: it tells you how to fix it
[07:13] <Adross> but now grub doesn't even detect it
[07:13] <qt2> nalioth_zZz, so... should i compile everything not in the official repositories...
[07:13] <Lufusol> Adross: or atleast how to diagnose the situation
[07:13] <qt2> ?
[07:13] <sunrex> danar:?
[07:13] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: you have to initiate screen, then start irssi inside it
[07:13] <Danar_> sunrex: after that, the files should be there, and hopefully xine will see them when you run it
[07:13] <Danar_> sunrex: try again
[07:14] <sunrex> Danar: k
[07:14] <dabaR> why could I not just do it with ssh?
[07:14] <Razor-X> Adross: got it saved to a file
[07:14] <Danar_> sunrex: xine or totem or whatever you're using
[07:14] <dabaR> its cli.
[07:14] <dabaR> you mean so I can have another terminal open?
[07:14] <sunrex> Danar: didint work
[07:14] <nalioth_zZz> qt2, first try for official binarys, 2nd use apt to build from official sources 3d, build by hand (use checkinstall in place of "make install")
[07:14] <Razor-X> dabaR: exactly
[07:14] <Adross> i think i may be able to fix it by getting another xp disk, installing, then reinstalling ubuntu
[07:15] <Adross> worse comes to worse, i have pata hdd spare
[07:15] <dabaR> ya, that makes sense, maybe I will do that when I have a use for that...Im fine now, tho,.
[07:15] <Razor-X> but, the best part about screen is, if you use screen remotely, it's de/attachable
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: with screen, you can have 100s of terminals runnning inside one gnome-term window
[07:15] <Adross> thanks guys
[07:15] <dabaR> I can have that now.
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: Razor-X can explain it better
[07:15] <Razor-X> without tabs
[07:15] <Adross> its people like you that got me to change over to linux in the first place. You're really doing yourselves proud
[07:15] <dabaR> But, I cant start gnome-term without -X
[07:15] <Razor-X> tabs take up GUI usage, and more memory usage than screen does
[07:15] <Danar_> sunrex: what're you trying to play, and what exactly happens?
[07:15] <Danar_> sunrex: and what're you playing with
[07:15] <Razor-X> dabaR: yeah, you can use screen without X
[07:15] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: screen runs in the text logins also
[07:16] <dabaR> ok, so gnome screen? cant be two words...
[07:16] <Razor-X> but, if you're X-less, I also suggest using twin
[07:16] <Razor-X> dabaR: screen
[07:16] <Razor-X> one word
[07:16] <sunrex> Danar:i see half the movie the other have is like a tv with no respetion....it was like this b/f to
[07:16] <Danar_> sunrex: what players have you tried? xine, vlc, mplayer?
[07:16] <dabaR> just screen, then,
[07:16] <dabaR> lets see.
[07:16] <Razor-X> your computing life will never be the same
[07:16] <Lufusol> Adross: http://www.tinyempire.com/shortnotes/files/fixntldr.iso try burning and booting from this
[07:16] <Razor-X> trust me
[07:16] <sunrex> Danar:Xine TOTEM totem just freezes thou
[07:16] <Danar_> sunrex: strange
[07:16] <Lufusol> follow instructions on that link i gave you
[07:16] <dabaR> not in repos...
[07:16] <jasmuz> Good night people
[07:16] <nalioth_zZz> Razor-X: anyone who listens to you will never be the same
[07:17] <cyphase> hmm..
[07:17] <jasmuz> Troll tonight
[07:17] <cyphase> Ubuntu Foundation..
[07:17] <nalioth_zZz> Razor-X: emacs can run your car, plug it in
[07:17] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: ;)
[07:17] <sunrex> Danar:i got no sound either
[07:17] <Razor-X> I only wish it could
[07:17] <Razor-X> I'm such a screen dedicated fan, I use emacs in screen
[07:17] <nalioth_zZz> !info screen
[07:17] <ubotu> screen: (a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 563 kB, Installed size: 972 kB
[07:17] <dabaR> misc?
[07:17] <Razor-X> i'm even more dedicated about screen than I am about emacs, I just don't spread the love as much
[07:17] <dabaR> I dont have that enabled, I dont think..
[07:17] <Fikrann> nalioth_zZz, Provided you can sacrifice 65% of your engine's power solely to keep emacs running.
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> dabaR: it might be default ( i dont remember)
[07:18] <Lufusol> I hope it helps... Other than that I am out of ideas.
[07:18] <Lufusol> good luck
[07:18] <Danar> sunrex:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-esd totem-gstreamer
[07:18] <GigaClon> can anyone suggest a Linux tutorial?
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> Fikrann: now i was just joshin with Razor-X. He's the one who wants to implant his sisters with emacs
[07:18] <Razor-X> I will!
[07:18] <nalioth_zZz> GigaClon: www.tldp.org
[07:18] <Danar> GigaClon: go to google.com/linux and search ~guide
[07:18] <Razor-X> from age 6, she'll learn C-x C-c
[07:18] <GigaClon> thanks
[07:18] <Danar> you'll find tldp.org and more
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[07:19] <nalioth_zZz> GigaClon: but stay away from ubuntuguide
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: you already have them?
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:i guess =/
[07:19] <Razor-X> nalioth_zZz: ubuntuguide has become deprecated?
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: tried playing something else?
[07:19] <nalioth_zZz> !ubguide
[07:19] <ubotu> well, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar:no...ill try that now..
[07:19] <sunrex> Danar: wait i cant
[07:19] <Danar> sunrex: ...
[07:20] <GigaClon> im really new to Linux, just install ubuntu today
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar:my 2 CD/DVD roms just froze and wont eject
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar:im going to restart BRB
[07:20] <nalioth_zZz> night, got early clients tomorrow
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: wait
[07:20] <othernoob> sunrex unmount them
[07:20] <IceDC571> blah.. i feel like an ass using mandrake when i was 13
[07:20] <sunrex> Danar: ?
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: you want to restart the computer?
[07:20] <IceDC571> i should of used something like.. freebsd
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: just open the tray
[07:20] <Danar> sunrex: got a pin?
[07:21] <GNULinuxer> nalioth_zZz, what is UTFS?
[07:21] <Razor-X> IceDC571: you used Mandrake at 13?
[07:21] <sunrex> Danar:...wtf...it just ejected..
[07:21] <Danar> sunrex: actually.. oh. nvm
[07:21] <Razor-X> I plunged headfirst into Debian no-X (on mistake, of course)
[07:21] <jocco> I cant get blender to run,,, is there a way to install Blender 3.27a in 64bit hoary with apt-get or synaptic? TIA :)
[07:21] <sunrex> Danar:great my music disk wont eject..
[07:21] <Razor-X> now I reccomend it to all seriously wanting to learn Linux ;)
[07:21] <IceDC571> Razor-X: mm hmm.. i remember i couldnt make my mouse cursor something else instead of that stupid X
[07:21] <Razor-X> IceDC571: XD
[07:22] <Razor-X> i'm 15, ya know
[07:22] <Danar> sunrex: heh. run lsof|grep -i mnt
[07:22] <IceDC571> Razor-X: congrats, do you have a girl?
[07:22] <sunrex> danar:?
[07:22] <Razor-X> spend a week in the command-line, even the most experienced in terminals (bust still use X) would have a hard time
[07:22] <Razor-X> IceDC571: hell no ;)
[07:22] <Lufusol> I used mandrake 10 last, now this mandriva 10.2, i got the 1-cd ISO that downloads the rest on demand but I haven't tried it yet.. that feature wasn't very reliable on previous distros
[07:22] <IceDC571> Razor-X: so linux is better than sex, eh?
[07:22] <jocco> anyone here use blender 3d?
[07:22] <Razor-X> IceDC571: I don't do sex (long story there)
[07:22] <Lufusol> jocco: somewhat
[07:23] <Razor-X> Wikipedia "human asexual"
[07:23] <Danar> jocco: used it a couple times. not exactly a guru though :p
[07:23] <Razor-X> but yeah, better than being with a girl XD
[07:23] <Danar> jocco: there's good guides out there though
[07:23] <sunrex> Danar: what u want me to do
[07:23] <IceDC571> Razor-X: thats cool, what distro did you start out with?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone here understand the memory layout of Linux processes very well
[07:23] <Danar> sunrex: i told you: run lsof|grep -i mnt
[07:23] <jocco> ok, I will try to find the source and compile it...
[07:23] <sunrex> Danar: WTF OK NOW I got the DVD TO WORK...BUT IT KEEPS FREEZING
[07:23] <Razor-X> IceDC571: Debian
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  install xine
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have 64 here?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  don't use totem.
[07:24] <Razor-X> Debian Unstable, IIRC
[07:24] <Danar> sunrex: sounds like you're doing stuff in the mean-time...
[07:24] <sunrex> im running Xine
[07:24] <jocco> I do
[07:24] <Razor-X> and my gfx card was being a bitch
[07:24] <jocco> I have AMD64
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  oh, well do you have glx acceleration
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: how long have you been using it?
[07:24] <Razor-X> through much hard experience, i've learned that the only thing that works well with that gfx card is xvesa
[07:24] <jocco> 20 minuets
[07:24] <sunrex> no
[07:24] <Danar> sunrex: first you ought to fix this. tell me the output from that command
[07:24] <Razor-X> the only xserver, rather
[07:24] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: lol kk
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  don't make the window terribly large
[07:24] <jocco> yea, I cant get any 32 bit apps to work
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  witohut glx accel, it takes video players a lot to draw on the screen.
[07:25] <sunrex> Danar:it says command not found
[07:25] <Lufusol> jocco: blender is really, really complex and can do a lot more than it appears but i haven't found any REALLY good documentation for it yet
[07:25] <IceDC571> yeah i used mandrake first, then tried redhat.. didnt like it at all, switched back to mandrake.. tried fedora, stuck to fedora for a while, tried debian unstable.. didnt like my gfx card.. went back to fedora, tried ubuntu and now im never going back
[07:25] <sunrex> bluefoxicy: were do i get it
[07:25] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: yea... i think i'm just goin to switch to x86 architecture right now....
[07:25] <bluefoxicy> sunrex:  from your video card drivers?  :P
[07:25] <Danar> sunrex: you ran exactly this: lsof | grep -i mnt
[07:25] <Danar> ?
[07:25] <IceDC571> but i still want to try freebsd again
[07:25] <Lufusol> just the official stuff... used it for a few months at one job where the boss wanted me to make 3D looking webpage layouts
[07:25] <sunrex> Danar:tyler@Darkworks:~$ lsof | grep -i mnt
[07:25] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[07:26] <dabaR> ok, wow, I found a new repo, misc
[07:26] <jocco> Lufusol yea, I have been useing it science version 1.75
[07:26] <dabaR> weird
[07:26] <sunrex> Danar: didint do anything =/
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> wooooooooo!!!!!
[07:26] <Danar> sunrex: arg. you mislead me
[07:26] <sunrex> bluefoxicy:so were do i get the thing..
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> oh geez... that's not good
[07:26] <jocco> MidNightRaVeN there is some way we install ubuntu for the 32bit under the 64bit somehow
[07:26] <sunrex> Danar:LOL
[07:26] <Danar> sunrex: no, it did what it was supposed to do. it did not say command not found, it had no output, which usually means success
[07:26] <Razor-X> ah hah, live the power of emacs macros ;)
[07:26] <MidNightRaVeN> jocco: what do you mean??
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> i think i just destroyed something...
[07:27] <youth> Does anyone know how I run wine?
[07:27] <Razor-X> i'm sorting through Adross's menu.lst removing all the IRC commands
[07:27] <jocco> somehow we have a 32bit system that we chroot to
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> really? =/
[07:27] <othernoob> is there a n64 emulator for linux?
[07:27] <jocco> we install 32bit apps there
[07:27] <othernoob> as well as a neogeo emu
[07:27] <Danar> sunrex: what it does is pipe the output from lsof (list open files) to grep, which you told to search for 'mnt'. to see if something was using a mounted drive/partition
[07:27] <MidNightRaVeN> well crap... how do we do that...
[07:27] <jocco> othernoob I think xmame will do n64
[07:27] <sunrex> Danar:....well is somthing?
[07:27] <Danar> sunrex: at the moment you ran it, nothing was using the drives, right?
[07:28] <jocco> othernoob Xmess I mean
[07:28] <Danar> sunrex: apparently not, as there was no output
[07:28] <Lufusol> Ice and whoever... hmm.. i think redhat 5 or 6 was my first successful linux distro.. then mandrake, then gave up on it when i couldn't get past debian install >_< then years later.. last year.. tried mandrake 10, and fedora core 2, and settled on suse 9
[07:28] <Razor-X> there we are, all the IRC is out of it
[07:28] <sunrex> Danar:nope...unless a CD that wont eject is called running =P
[07:28] <othernoob> jocco it does have a promissing name ;) thanks
[07:28] <Lufusol> now running overclockix and ubuntu
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> welll peeps... i just totally broke ubuntu lol
[07:28] <Danar> sunrex: what's mount say?
[07:28] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: goo job!
[07:28] <othernoob> MidNightRaVeN:  congrats
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> =D
[07:28] <Lufusol> both debian based.. finally i graduated to debian.. still a total noob though :)
[07:28] <youth> ..anyone? :/
[07:28] <MidNightRaVeN> lol you guys should help me fix it ;-)
[07:28] <sunrex> Danar: Audio Disk
[07:29] <Razor-X> Lufusol: why waste your CPU on stuff like Folding@Home, when you can use Progress Quest? ;)
[07:29] <Danar> youth: run 'wine program.exe' in a terminal
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar: dont know why i even put it in i got no sound..
[07:29] <MidNightRaVeN> it's not too bad...
[07:29] <youth> thankyou~
[07:29] <Razor-X> who cares about helping discover the protein folding configurations and aiding humans
[07:29] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[07:29] <Razor-X> I want my character to be BADASS XD
[07:29] <Lufusol> Razor-X: haha
[07:29] <othernoob> youth you have to be in the directory of the app to do it
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar:Unable To Eject Media...and when i click eject my HD starts to load with that sound
[07:29] <Danar> sunrex: paste the output of 'mount' in flood
[07:29] <youth> where is it? 'cause i dont even know where it went
[07:29] <sunrex> Danar:what you mean
[07:30] <Razor-X> oddly enough, the shift of stuff is moving from pastebin to flood
[07:30] <othernoob> youth probably .wine/fake_windows/....
[07:30] <Danar> sunrex: i mean, run mount in a terminal, and paste the output in #flood
[07:30] <Razor-X> still, I deprecate using #flood only because it's cleaner in pastebin
[07:30] <MidNightRaVeN> can you use the history in Synaptic to reinstall stuff easily?
[07:30] <sunrex> Danar:whats the command to do that lol
[07:30] <Danar> youth: you cd to the dir of the program, and run 'wine program.exe'
[07:30] <Razor-X> surly: 'mount'
[07:30] <youth> danar; cd to it.?
[07:30] <Razor-X> errr
[07:30] <Danar> sunrex: ?! mount. for the fifth time: mount
[07:30] <Lufusol> Razor-X: overclockix is actually a rather nice distro aside from F@H... especially since it automatically discovers and mounts NTFS volumes and I run XP on both my machines here at home
[07:31] <Razor-X> sunrex: 'mount'
[07:31] <othernoob> youth: cd =change directory
[07:31] <Danar> youth: cd = the change directory command. you need to run it from the same directory the program is in
[07:31] <Razor-X> Lufusol: i'm just jokin with ya
[07:31] <sunrex> OH LOL
[07:31] <Lufusol> Razor-X: i know ;)
[07:31] <Razor-X> I know the guy who makes Overclockix
[07:31] <youth> oooooh
[07:31] <Razor-X> and have met the guy who makes Kanotix
[07:31] <sunrex> Danar:done
[07:31] <rob^_> too much X
[07:31] <MidNightRaVeN> ughh... well looks like i'm going to be reinstalling ubuntu...
[07:31] <Razor-X> helped the former add some packages to Overclockix ;)
[07:31] <Lufusol> Kanotix - another Knoppix variant?
[07:32] <Razor-X> Lufusol: it's one with a blazing-fast kernel
[07:32] <othernoob> Lufusol sort of
[07:32] <Danar> sunrex: woops. again, i wasn't in #flood
[07:32] <rob^_> I personally like xxx
[07:32] <sunrex> ,,
[07:32] <MidNightRaVeN> does anyone have a suggestion if i should use x86 or x86_64????
[07:32] <sunrex> LOL
[07:32] <Razor-X> rob^_: keep your wet dreams to yourself
[07:32] <Danar> MidNightRaVeN: 64 if you can
[07:32] <budish76> helo
[07:32] <othernoob> MidNightRaVeN: that depends on your cpu
[07:32] <sunrex> Danar:done
[07:32] <MidNightRaVeN> Danar: kk...
[07:32] <budish76> anyone install antivirus on ubuntu?
[07:33] <othernoob> budish76: what for?
[07:33] <Danar> budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav
[07:33] <MidNightRaVeN> othernoob: i have 64 but was thinking of just using x86 for ease of use
[07:33] <budish76> clam av confused
[07:33] <Lufusol> MidNightRaVen: nah go for x86_64
[07:33] <budish76> need zlibc-devel
[07:33] <Lufusol> if you got it, flaunt it ;)
[07:33] <sunrex> Danar:anything wrong with it?
[07:33] <Danar> 64-bit = goodness
[07:33] <othernoob> budish76: clamav is a opensource antivirus prog. in fact, it's the best antivirus prog
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: nope, but it tells me that your dvd & cd drives aren't mounted
[07:34] <budish76> already download the .gz file
[07:34] <budish76> confused to install
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: which confirms that they're not being used, and you should have no problem ejecting them
[07:34] <budish76> find rpm package
[07:34] <sunrex> Danar:here...
[07:34] <reka> budish76: you're doing it the hard way
[07:34] <grphx> I'm trying to print something, but all my printer does is blink it's power light..
[07:34] <othernoob> budish76: you could install it via apt
[07:34] <budish76> hmmm
[07:34] <budish76> any address
[07:34] <budish76> for synaptic?
[07:34] <Danar> sunrex: if you can't eject them with the eject command, then stick a pin in the hole
[07:35] <reka> budish76: sys > admin > synaptic
[07:35] <budish76> for clamav
[07:35] <sunrex> Danar:UNABLE TO EJECT MEDIA - Eject: UNABLE TO EJECT LAST ERROR INVALID ARGUMENT
[07:35] <Lufusol> uh oh level one tech support time.. sir, is your printer plugged in to your computer?  sir, is the light on your monitor green or amber?
[07:35] <Danar> budish76: there's little point in having an antivirus for linux, but if you insist, run "sudo apt-get install clamav" or  search for clamav in synaptic
[07:35] <grphx> I don't thinkl linux reconizes my printer, it don't list it in the printer setup list
[07:35] <Lufusol> :P
[07:35] <othernoob> sunrex: unmount the cddrive
[07:35] <Danar> othernoob: it's not mounted
[07:36] <othernoob> Danar: weird
[07:36] <Danar> sunrex: push the eject button on the drives
[07:36] <pinko> question: anyone know how to (successfully) open an ssh server for remote access?
[07:36] <sunrex> Danar:did...doesnt work..
[07:36] <MidNightRaVeN> goodbye peeps for a short bit... going to reinstall ubuntu!! w00t w00t!!
[07:36] <sunrex> Danar:im going to restart brb
[07:36] <bob2> pinko: you don't have to do anything aside from install the openssh-server package
[07:36] <hyphenated> Danar: there's little point having antivirus to protect linux boxes. but sometimes, you want your linux box protecting windows ones (eg: mail server that filters bad attachments)
[07:36] <bob2> pinko: if you have a "firewall" between you and the world, you'd of course need to configure that, too
[07:36] <othernoob> grphx: www.linuxprinting.org for your printing needs :)
[07:36] <Danar> hyphenated: that's what i said...
[07:37] <Danar> hyphenated: almost exactly, only with less words
[07:37] <pinko> bob2: firewall is not the problem, though I'm trying to make it work with a forwarded port
[07:37] <bob2> pinko: then it is the problem
[07:37] <hyphenated> Danar: I guess I misread. I thought you were implying clamav was a waste of time installing :-)
[07:38] <Danar> hyphenated: i was. but i also said <Danar> budish76: not much point unless you're running a mail server or something, but if you want one: clamav
[07:38] <budish76> the problem is i already install by converting rpm using alien
[07:38] <budish76> but clamav cannot run
[07:38] <budish76> and i uninstall it
[07:38] <pinko> bob2: I think you're right.  any advice?
[07:38] <Danar> budish76: so uninstall it, then install it from synaptic
[07:38] <hyphenated> whoops, missed that bit, Danar
[07:38] <Lufusol> Bedways is rightways, now
[07:38] <Danar> hyphenated: np
[07:38] <budish76> how to find the installation on internet using synaptic
[07:38] <bob2> pinko: assuming it's a consumer "router" thing, none other than reading the manual to find out how to forward connections
[07:38] <Lufusol> later folks
[07:38] <bob2> budish76: you install clamav using alien?
[07:39] <budish76> find rpm package and install using alien
[07:39] <whiprush> bob2!
[07:39] <budish76> but not work
[07:39] <reka> budish76: click the search button in synaptic.
[07:39] <bob2> budish76: that's sick, just install clamav from ubuntu.  wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto.
[07:39] <bob2> whiprush!
[07:39] <bob2> fridge me!
[07:39] <Danar> budish76: in synaptic, click the clamav package, right-click on it, and choose complete removal. click apply
[07:39] <sunrex> Danar: well///that went well...and i got my cd out
[07:39] <reka> then type in clamav
[07:39] <Danar> budish76: then reinstall it with synaptic
[07:40] <whiprush> bob2: hmm, I need to nail down Mr. Dub and discuss.
[07:40] <whiprush> Time is catching up to us.
[07:40] <budish76> the installation source should be anywhere in internet
[07:40] <sunrex> Danar:what do i use so i can make my DVD a big screen>
[07:40] <budish76> anyone has clear address
[07:40] <bob2> whiprush: the elusive Mr Dub.  a nailgun might help.
[07:40] <budish76> i'm little confused using synaptic
[07:40] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[07:40] <bob2> budish76: dude, use synaptic.  you're only digging your hole here deeper.
[07:40] <pinko> bob2: I have the port opened by my gateway, verified that it's open through scan.sygate.com
[07:41] <rob^> anyone know where I can get the kernel module for lufsmount to mount ftp servers?
[07:41] <bob2> pinko: that site sounds useless
[07:41] <sunrex> Danar: ?
[07:41] <whiprush> bob2: I was thinking more along the lines of an iron maiden, but yeah ....
[07:41] <bob2> pinko: can you ssh to your external ip from elsewere on the internet or not?
[07:41] <pinko> bob2: nope.  so far, I can only do it from within the network
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: then the router is still misconfigured
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: I assume this is the ip you're on irc from?
[07:42] <pinko> bob2: yes
[07:42] <bob2> pinko: it works fine
[07:42] <budish76> bob2: do you think that i can install rpm that i already download for other distro via synaptic?
[07:42] <sunrex> Danar: WTF MY DVD EVEN WHEN SMALL FREEZES
[07:42] <bob2> budish76: no, that's a terrible idea
[07:42] <IceDC571> budish76: use alien
[07:42] <IceDC571> budish76: what type of package?
[07:42] <bob2> budish76: use the ubuntu paclages
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> where can I find the pic used on my desktop in my install?
[07:44] <sunrex> Danar: U HERE
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: and was unnecessary, but glad it worked
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: i suggest you ask someone else for help, and/or search google, check the forums, etc. i should have been asleep hours ago. good luck, and good night
[07:44] <Danar> nite all
[07:44] <bob2> sunrex: please stop using all capitals, it makes you look obnoxious
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: 'f' should make it fullscreen
[07:44] <Danar> sunrex: what freezes? xine?
[07:44] <Danar> nope
[07:44] <Danar> you?
[07:44] <sunrex> Danar: Xine laggs the movie like crazy
[07:45] <pinko> bob2: thank you.  I think I can guess what the trouble is, then.
[07:45] <budish76> or need to download from clamav web
[07:45] <budish76> also via synaptic?
[07:45] <Danar> sunrex: yet nothing else plays it, correct?
[07:45] <bob2> budish76: using synaptic
[07:45] <IceDC571> pshh.. xine never worked for me.. i never use it
[07:45] <bob2> xine works fine
[07:45] <IceDC571> oh wait i use totem, stupid me
[07:45] <IceDC571> lol
[07:45] <bob2> and does menus, unlike mplayer
[07:45] <sunrex> Danar: the DVDS wont play on anything else
[07:45] <Danar> does it play properly, albeit slowly?
[07:45] <sunrex> Danar: somtimes...and somtimes it freezes then starts going...its a 5 sec thing for the normal playback
[07:45] <drummer87> hey, how can i make my comp login automatically from the login shell?
[07:46] <Danar> sunrex: you may have a video card driver problem
[07:46] <Danar> but as i said, i should have gone to sleep hours ago...
[07:46] <budish76> IceDC571: rpm for mdk
[07:46] <reka> drummer87: sys > admin > login screen
[07:46] <sunrex> Danar: no...couse if i download a MP3 from the internet realplayer plays just fine
[07:47] <IceDC571> blah... especially any rpm for mandrake, dont use it
[07:47] <Danar> sunrex: how much ram do you have? might also have a small swap file
[07:47] <Danar> running anything else at the same time?
[07:47] <sunrex> Danar: about 350
[07:47] <sunrex> Danar:no
[07:47] <Danar> sunrex: ~350MB RAM? I doubt that :p
[07:47] <drummer87> reka, i'm not using gdm though.. just the shell (i want to set up a 2nd box as testing server but have it login and start linuxvnc by just pressing the on button)
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar? what i am
[07:48] <Danar> more likely 256 or 512...
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar: 350 about...i know
[07:48] <Danar> what size memory modules do you have in there?
[07:48] <reka> drummer87: i see...not really sure bout that one
[07:48] <sunrex> Danar: not sure lol =/
[07:49] <Yuki> bah
[07:49] <Danar> sunrex: is it 384?
[07:49] <Yuki> I forgot the command for installing kubuntu
[07:49] <Yuki> XD
[07:49] <sunrex> Danar: i think
[07:49] <Yuki> what is it again?
[07:49] <Danar> sunrex: that would be a 256 + a 128
[07:49] <Danar> should be plenty
[07:49] <drummer87> reka, thanks anyway, i think i've found something on the forums though :)
[07:49] <whyameye> sound stutters on many of my audio/video apps. I didn't really care until tonight because now I discover it stutters in Kino. I have tried OSS and ALSA.
[07:49] <DekaPink> There, my Ubuntu is all nice and set up, and it recognizes my camera... :D
[07:49] <Danar> whyameye: ubuntu uses esd
[07:49] <reka> drummer87: righto
[07:49] <sunrex> Danar:so then whats wrong
[07:50] <stanford> Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:50] <Danar> sunrex: not sure. possibly your video card driver. i don't have time to help now. must sleep
[07:50] <visor> hey folks do we have to umount first a usb drive before disconnecting it gnome 2.10? (usb 1.x) or simly removing it will do it?
[07:50] <drummer87> typing the q here just jogged my memory to something i'd read months ago.. all good now
[07:50] <Danar> g'nite people
[07:50] <adwait> gnite Danar
[07:51] <stanford> Ryhtmbox (music player) doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:51] <adwait> visor: i guess u better umount it....
[07:51] <IceDC571> stanford: type rhythmbox in the terminal, what does it say?
[07:51] <adwait> stanford: closes when? when u try to play/import/start?
[07:52] <stanford> adwait, when i open it lol
[07:52] <Yuki> my speakers don't even work...help?
[07:52] <visor> adwait: i've heard before that if is usb 2.0 and if you dont have anything like a mouse connected than you just unplugg it but yet im not quite sure if it harms the drive if you dont umount it
[07:52] <adwait> brb
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571, Ryhtmbox doesn't work... unexpectedly closes.  Help?
[07:52] <stanford> sorry
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571 wrong copy
[07:52] <qt2> irk... synaptic like... froze installing nvidia-glx...
[07:52] <stanford> icedc571, bash: rythmbox: command not found
[07:53] <adwait> visor: it cuoldnt harm the drive.....but whts the harm in letting linux know its not there anymore
[07:53] <adwait> stanford: rhythmbox is the spelling
[07:53] <stanford> adwait ok
[07:53] <Yuki> my speakers won't play sound...help?
[07:53] <IceDC571> stanford: its rhythmbox with two h's
[07:54] <adwait> visor: u can add the mounter to the the panel for easily mounting and umounting
[07:54] <stanford> icedc571 GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1680813884 bytes
[07:54] <stanford> aborting...
[07:54] <adwait> Yuki: no sounds  at all? hv u enabled sound server?
[07:54] <IceDC571> stanford: wow, sounds like a nasty memory error
[07:54] <IceDC571> adwait: what do you think?
[07:54] <Yuki> um, how?  XD
[07:54] <Yuki> me=linux n00b
[07:54] <Yuki> XD
[07:54] <visor> adwait: yeah, indeed there is an option on the menu when you right click on the drive, but i thought it was only needed to unplugg it (as long as you are not using it, say copying files or something)
[07:54] <balistic22> does anyone know how to connect ipod to ubuntu
[07:55] <Yuki> it plays sounds, but not music and stuff
[07:55] <stanford> icecd571, adwait, I didn't do anything to it, just installed ubuntu
[07:55] <Yuki> like, my music files don't work
[07:55] <IceDC571> balistic22: it should be plug and play.. ive listening to my ipod on ubuntu right now
[07:55] <Yuki> even though the player opens tem
[07:55] <Yuki> *them
[07:55] <stanford> lol two player issues
[07:55] <Yuki> lol
[07:55] <Yuki> yeah
[07:55] <balistic22> IceDC571, well when i had red hat it worked fine.. but for some reason its not recognizing the ipod is there a plug and play option i have to enable
[07:56] <IceDC571> balistic22: so when you plug in your ipod does it see anything?
[07:56] <stanford> icecd571, adwait, is there anything i can do to fix  this memory problem?
[07:56] <reka> Yuki: what prog are you using for music?
[07:56] <whyameye> Machine just crashed, so I got disconnected and don't know if anybody answered me. I am having troubles with stuttering sound in some audio/video apps. Specifically Kino is a problem which I would like to solve. Tried OSS and ALSO.
[07:56] <balistic22> Iced571, nope nothing .. not even the " Do not disconnect" all i see is my ipod playing music
[07:56] <whyameye> ALSA that is...
[07:56] <Yuki> um, whatever it opens by default?
[07:57] <stanford> balisticc22, my ipod works fine, plugandplay
[07:57] <reka> Yuki: are they mp3s?
[07:57] <balistic22> well what do i do...
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > Does anybody in here happen to be in Windows and have Adobe Illustrator? I need an .ai file verified.
[07:57] <stanford> i just can't open a rhythm box
[07:57] <Yuki> yes...
[07:57] <[Chameleon] > Anybody?
[07:57] <reka> Yuki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <stanford> No suggestions on memory error with Rhythm box?  I'll check back in the morning
[07:58] <sunrex> what can be used to play games?
[07:58] <whyameye> is there an audio buffer setting somewhere that I can change for OSS and ALSA software?
[07:58] <sunrex> windows games
[07:58] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: WineX
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > it's spotty though
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > and not free
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> what package do I need to install for a C compiler?
[07:59] <[Chameleon] > sunrex: you could try the generic WINE
[07:59] <balistic22> would reformatting my ipod work ?
[07:59] <IceDC571> i doubt it but you can try
[07:59] <stanford> Is there an alternative to Rhythmbox?
[08:00] <IceDC571> stanford: try Muine
[08:00] <IceDC571> its very nice
[08:00] <stanford> ok
[08:00] <DekaPink> Damn, Ubuntu is sexy.
[08:00] <IceDC571> *almost* gapless playback too
[08:00] <GigaClon> damn straight
[08:00] <stanford> ubuntu is sexy
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > yep
[08:00] <IceDC571> the default human theme creeps me out tho
[08:00] <[Chameleon] > Ubuntu == Sexy
[08:00] <IceDC571> its like im part of ubuntu
[08:00] <DekaPink> If it were physically possible to make love to an operating system, I'm tellin' ya.
[08:00] <reka> ColonelKernel: gcc
[08:00] <GigaClon> what is Rhythmbox?
[08:00] <balistic22>  ughh i want to work with my ipod
[08:00] <hosler> When i use esddsp for programs who dont use esound i get a 3 second sound delay with that program. Any way to fix this?
[08:01] <ColonelKernel> do I have to log out or anything after I install gcc?
[08:02] <hosler> balistic22: When I plugged in my ipod it worked instantly.
[08:02] <jocco> is there a backport for AMD64 hoary? I need blender version 2.37 or 2.37a TIA
[08:02] <reka> ColonelKernel: don't think so
[08:02] <crimsun> ColonelKernel, build-essential is the package
[08:02] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, thanks
[08:02] <littlered> I just posted my desktop in the Ubuntu Forum's gallery. :D
[08:02] <whyameye> hosler: what it esddsp and where can I get it? Will this help with stuttering audio in software that uses OSS or ALSA?
[08:02] <kkathman> evenin crimson..howzit goin :)
[08:03] <reka> whyameye, hosler :  crimsun's the resident sound guru. :)
[08:03] <kkathman> yep he is
[08:04] <whyameye> crimsun: can you help? I have sound stuttering issues in many audio/video programs. I am especially concerned about Kino right now...
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: ubuntu uses esound to allow multiple programs use the sound device. But not all programs are compatible with esound, so esddsp allows those programs to use esound even if they are not programed to do so.
[08:04] <whyameye> hosler: esound == esd?
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: you can download it with synaptic. I believe the package is called esound-clients or something like that.
[08:04] <crimsun> it's best to avoid esound if at all possible.
[08:04] <hosler> whyameye: esd = esound deamon
[08:05] <hosler> crimsun: what would you recommend as an alternative?
[08:05] <whyameye> okay. Yes when I use Kino for example I have to type killall esd in a terminal window first.
[08:05] <ColonelKernel> configure: error: zlib needed <-- what do I install to fix this error
[08:05] <IceDC571> just wait in a few years when M$ charages $700 for an operating system
[08:05] <crimsun> hosler, alsa directly
[08:05] <MrBiscuit> Anyone have dialup or have any knowledge on PPP?
[08:06] <IceDC571> welcome back MrBiscuit
[08:06] <hosler> crimsun: so if just disable esound alsa will kick in?
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Gesundheit!
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Oh yes Hi
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Still no luck :-(
[08:06] <crimsun> hosler, esound currently is configured on ubuntu to run on top of alsa's oss emulation
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Maybe i should go back to GNOME
[08:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: what modem do you have?
[08:06] <crimsun> hosler, if you disable esound, you have to configure the gnome applications to use alsa directly for their audio sink
[08:06] <MrBiscuit> Conexant HSF Modem
[08:06] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, apt-get install zlib1g zlib1g-dev most likely
[08:06] <IceDC571> MrBiscuit: yes, indeed.. go back to gnome
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> But KDE is so pretty
[08:07] <hosler> crimsun: why do they use esound at all?
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> But it doesn't have Gnometris
[08:07] <IceDC571> kde is Qt with a huge facelift and major surgeries
[08:07] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.. Decisions Decisions
[08:07] <IceDC571> go back to gnome..
[08:07] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, i'm almost positive you have zlib1g installed but you probably are missing the development files from zlib1g-dev
[08:07] <crimsun> hosler, it was the simplest way to support multiple sounds across the variety of sound hardware
[08:08] <MrBiscuit> Hmmm.. Linuxant is not free.. what a rip off..Good thing i have a beta driver :-D
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, that would be it - thank you
[08:08] <hosler> crimsun: wait, doesnt alsa do the same thing?
[08:08] <littlered> Oi... What's that thing you can get for gaim that like, highlights the message windows when you're getting new messages? :3
[08:08] <crimsun> hosler, at the library layer, yes, called dmix.
[08:08] <MrBiscuit> OkIce, i mite be back later, to reinstall Ubuntu!
[08:08] <whyameye> okay so now I installed esddsp and run it and hear nothing using Kino.
[08:09] <Yuki> what's the command to install kubuntu?
[08:09] <hosler> crimsun: so if I dissable esound, will I be able to play a game which uses sound and listen to music at the same time?
[08:09] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, zlib1g is an essential library. if you tried to remove it ubuntu would warn you of grave danger ahead :)
[08:09] <jasoncohen> so, zlib1g-dev was a good bet
[08:09] <crimsun> hosler, more than likely, yes
[08:09] <reka> Yuki: kubuntu is a seperate distro :)
[08:09] <Yuki> o_o
[08:09] <reka> Yuki: i take it you mean KDE?
[08:09] <crimsun> hosler, certain games are still hard-wired to use oss, however.
[08:09] <rob^> when I try to build or modprobe the lufs modules in my 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel I get "lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info
[08:09] <rob^> "
[08:09] <Yuki> yeah
[08:09] <whyameye> crimsun: any ideas about stuttering sound with ALSA and OSS?
[08:09] <crimsun> whyameye, are you using alsa directly?
[08:09] <reka> Yuki: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <Yuki> kk
[08:10] <Yuki> ty
[08:10] <rob^> any ideas how to fix this?
[08:10] <hosler> crimsun: so how do I prevent esound from starting up? Also, what are some suggestion for programs which only use oss?
[08:10] <sunrex> ok...WHY IS MY SOUND NOT RUNNING
[08:10] <crimsun> hosler, System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[08:10] <whyameye> Crimsun: I think I am. I kill esd. Then I choose ALSA in the multimedia systems director. Then I run Kino which has /dev/dsp set as the sound device.
[08:11] <crimsun> hosler, make sure that you change System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio sink to ALSA
[08:11] <jasoncohen> hmm...why do so many people have problems with sound?
[08:11] <jasoncohen> sunrex, so, you get no sound at all?
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > because ALSA assumed everybody had hardware mixers
[08:11] <crimsun> whyameye, ok, that would use ALSA's oss emulation
[08:11] <sunrex> Jasoncohen:nope...not one sound
[08:11] <Yuki> so...I can do stuff while it emerges right?
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > and the AC'97 and similar sound hardware is a software mixer.
[08:12] <crimsun> [Chameleon] , no, that's an inaccurate statement.
[08:12] <hosler> crimsun: well that was easy. when i think linux i think command line. thanks.
[08:12] <cajun> is hoary still the current testing version?
[08:12] <whyameye> crumsun: do I have other options for piping the sound? What I am doing is clearly not working.
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: what's inaccurate about it?
[08:12] <jasoncohen> cajun, hoary is the current stable release. breezy is the development release
[08:12] <whyameye> sorry...that's crimsun
[08:12] <crimsun> [Chameleon] , there's absolutely no assumption whatsoever regarding the underlying hardware having multiopen capability.
[08:12] <sunrex> whats Hoary..
[08:12] <sunrex> i just got plain old Ubuntu
[08:12] <tiglionabbit> zomg what happened I can't hear sound anymore!
[08:12] <adwait> sunrex: name of the current version of uvuntu
[08:13] <adwait> *ubuntu
[08:13] <sunrex> Adwait:how i find out....lol.
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: so what's the source of the sound difficulties?
[08:13] <adwait> heh
[08:13] <Yuki> reka: how long will it take do you think?
[08:13] <jasoncohen> sunrex, did you try changing your default sink to ALSA or OSS?
[08:13] <bigfoot1> anybody use Plugger instead of gmplayer as their plugin media player in their web browser?
[08:13] <sunrex> there is no 'difficulties' i have 0 sound
[08:13] <crimsun> [Chameleon] , it's a combination of esound and the sound hardware
[08:13] <whyameye> crimsun: is there a place I can change some sort of audio buffer to try to smooth other stuttering?
[08:13] <sunrex> Jasoncohen no...i dont think so
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> guys guys, I don't know what's changed, but suddenly the only thing I can get sound from is xmame.  I can't get sound from beep-media-player, flash, or even games.  What could I have done?
[08:14] <jasoncohen> sunrex, system > preferences > multimedia systems selector - default sink for audio is esd. try alsa and test to see if you hear sound
[08:14] <hosler> whyameye: what do you mean by shuttering?
[08:14] <crimsun> [Chameleon] , esound was used as an attempt to overcome the multiopen problem because, at the time, ALSA's lib-level dmix solution wasn't quite mature enough
[08:14] <bigfoot1> what do you guys recommend/use for midi files?
[08:14] <jasoncohen> crimsun, what will be used in breezy?
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> can someone help me out here?
[08:14] <crimsun> jasoncohen, Breezy already uses dmix for up to 9 devices.
[08:14] <reka> Yuki: well what's the estimated time left?
[08:14] <sunrex> Jasoncohen: i cant it says Failed To Construct Test Pipline
[08:15] <whyameye> hosler: sorry stuttering. Instead of a smooth stream of sound, the sound is coming out in blips interrupted by silence probably 10x/second.
[08:15] <drummer87> is it possible to downgrade to hoary?
[08:15] <hosler> whyameye: sorry :( never had that problem. It either worked or didnt work at all for me.
[08:15] <Yuki> oh, I see now XD
[08:15] <crimsun> whyameye, does that application have an ALSA output?
[08:15] <adwait> drummer87: from breezy?
[08:15] <_0kills> hey guys, im having a brain fart, whats the command to extract from .tgz?
[08:15] <sunrex> *sigh* its screwed up =/
[08:15] <jasoncohen> crimsun, so, a lot of these issues should dissapear in breezy? it just seems like a LOT of users are having sound issues
[08:15] <drummer87> yep, from breezy
[08:15] <crimsun> _0kills, tar xfz foo.tar.gz
[08:15] <whyameye> crimsun: how would I check?
[08:15] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, what have you changed recently?
[08:16] <_0kills> crimsun, thanks
[08:16] <Yuki> reka: will I have to logout anf login again for the changes to take effect?
[08:16] <jasoncohen> drummer87, apt-get doesn't really support downgrades. it's meant to do upgrades
[08:16] <hosler> Where can I specify programs to start up on boot? I want gdesklets deamon to startup on boot.
[08:16] <whyameye> crimsun: it just has an area to type in the sound device name
[08:16] <crimsun> whyameye, you need to check the application.
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: nothing...   the last thing I did that had anything to do with sound was...   I did a modprobe command to make rosegarden work
[08:16] <adwait> hosler: u can save current config while logging out, or use rcconf
[08:16] <jasoncohen> and it worked before that?
[08:16] <drummer87> so reinstalling is the only/easiest option?
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: yep
[08:16] <hosler> adwait: ok thanks
[08:16] <reka> Yuki: yes.  iirc, when it's done, log out, click on the sessions button and select KDE.
[08:16] <adwait> np
[08:16] <jasoncohen> drummer87, probably- you shouldn't have upgraded to breezy. it's a development release and is currently in a very unstable state
[08:16] <crimsun> jasoncohen, a lot of these issues will be moot, yes, but the fact that a lot of ac97 solutions are pure crap can't be masked
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I followed this guide, and it was working pretty well.  I could hear sound mixed between several programs at the same time
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[08:17] <ubotu> well, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> that one
[08:17] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, well, try to rmmod that module and then try, and if that doesn't work restart
[08:17] <jasoncohen> did you add the module to /etc/moduels or anything?
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> I can't remember the module...
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > crimsun: OK, next time I answer that question, I'll omit the part about ALSA making an assumption.
[08:17] <drummer87> jasoncohen, it's only on a testing box, np reinstalling
[08:17] <bigfoot1> how can i make galeon wrap the tabs onto more than one line, so that I don't have to hit the arrow buttons on the side?
[08:17] <jasoncohen> drummer87, then re-install. it's the easiest solution
[08:17] <crimsun> [Chameleon] , thanks
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> oh there we go, modprobe snd_seq
[08:17] <Yuki> oh btw
[08:17] <Yuki> reka: my screen is off centered, how do I fix that?
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> Yuki: use the adjustments on your monitor
[08:18] <Whistler> in your monitor menu
[08:18] <Yuki> oj
[08:18] <Yuki> lol
[08:18] <Yuki> *oh
[08:18] <reka> heh
[08:18] <Whistler> :)
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: how do I reverse that modprobe?
[08:18] <jasoncohen> sunrex, change the default sink - not default source
[08:18] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, rmmod
[08:18] <umar> i m trying to make work my tv remote control
[08:19] <Yuki> there we go ^^
[08:19] <[Chameleon] > g'night all
[08:19] <adwait> umar: with the pc?? explain plz......
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: oh...  does modprobe only stay until you restart?  Seems it "does not exist" so it must not be a permanent change
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> hmm, what else...  uh, I installed some game things
[08:20] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, it should only stay until you restart
[08:20] <jasoncohen> or rmmod
[08:20] <jasoncohen> brb
[08:20] <crimsun> whyameye, you could alsa use plughw:0 with aoss
[08:20] <crimsun> err, also^ use ...
[08:20] <tiglionabbit> does anyone know how to really troubleshoot sound?
[08:20] <crimsun> what's up, tiglionabbit?
[08:21] <Heimdall> is there someone to help me ? I 've made a little mistake with GRUB, I have renamed the file menu.lst, and so now I can't boot ..../
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: all of a sudden, I can't hear sound from anything except for xmame
[08:21] <TinyIRC> hello there. anyone knows how to install modem in the Ubuntu?
[08:21] <littlered> Where can I tell guification's configure script where gaim is? :3
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: this is even after a full restart.  And it didn't happen until just today
[08:21] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, not familiar with xmame. Does it use oss natively?
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: no, it's using alsa
[08:21] <whyameye> crimsun: sorry I don't follow. What is plughw:0? I was just Googling and some other people had the problem I had and the suggestion was to shut off power management. Do you know how I do this. This is a laptop...
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> but oss for a mixer
[08:21] <Yuki> exit
[08:22] <TinyIRC> hello people
[08:22] <crimsun> whyameye, I'm not familiar with your laptop.
[08:22] <TinyIRC> anyone can help me with the modem problem?
[08:22] <jasoncohen> why does that sound howto recommend ALSA over ESD? ESD works fine
[08:22] <tiglionabbit> I set beep-media-player to alsa, and selected my media things as alsa too, and everything was fine for quite a while
[08:22] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: not really..
[08:22] <crimsun> whyameye, plughw:0 is a virtual ALSA device that you can tell your program to use _only_ if the program natively supports ALSA.
[08:22] <TinyIRC> yuhoooo!! anyone here knows how to install modem in the UBUNTU?
[08:23] <crimsun> jasoncohen, esound has horrible latency issues. Applications like mplayer exacerbate it.
[08:23] <reka> TinyIRC: if someone knows, they'll reply
[08:23] <Heimdall> nobody knows grub ?
[08:23] <whyameye> crimsun, so where do I get it or how do I invoke it?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> lots of documention out on grub and its grubby ussage :P
[08:23] <jasoncohen> i followed the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 except i kept default sink and source
[08:23] <jasoncohen> ESD/OSS
[08:23] <adwait> TinyIRC: i gues u could just plug it in and thn install drivers for it
[08:23] <mebaran151> Heimdall, I know grub a little
[08:23] <mebaran151> what is the problem
[08:23] <reka> Heimdall: maybe use the install CD in rescue mode, mount the linux partition, and rename it back?
[08:23] <crimsun> whyameye, it's built-in.
[08:23] <hazmat> Heimdall, you'll need to use a livecd to get o a shell, moutn the partition and rename
[08:23] <jasoncohen> so basically what the ubuntuguide says
[08:23] <crimsun> whyameye, your application has to be alsa-native.
[08:24] <Heimdall> I have renamed menu.lst :/
[08:24] <mebaran151> heheh
[08:24] <Heimdall> I have no live cd !
[08:24] <mebaran151> you got problems
[08:24] <adwait> heh
[08:24] <mebaran151> big uns
[08:24] <bigfoot1> a general question: is it true that compiling a program from source is better?
[08:24] <TinyIRC> hello adwait. i check the Modem in the Drivers list and it is there
[08:24] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, can you use beep-media-player with the esound plugin? what's your default sink & source in the multimedia selector?
[08:24] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:24] <mebaran151> bigfoot1, yeah
[08:24] <bigfoot1> How do we compile from sourec anyway?
[08:24] <mebaran151> you can be more aggressive aobut option
[08:24] <mebaran151> well first you need some source to compile
[08:24] <adwait> TinyIRC: well i guess then its installed........u can configure ur dial up connection with pppconf
[08:24] <mebaran151> and then it is usually just
[08:24] <TinyIRC> the thing is that when i go to the network connection and want to add a dial-up it cannot detects the modem
[08:24] <mebaran151> ./configure
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: it depends.  First off, it's harder, requires you to have dev libs, and often doesn't have an uninstall ability.  It also may not be as tailored to your OS as a .deb package
[08:25] <mebaran151> make && make install
[08:25] <Yuki> reka: I installed KDE, but it looks the same...:\
[08:25] <mebaran151> you can also use checkinstall
[08:25] <Heimdall> reka : is there a mean to type the boot command manually ? I don't know what to write but maybe some of you do
[08:25] <mebaran151> which makes a pkg for you
[08:25] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, also, did you do the obvious and check to make sure the volume is up on PCM, master and speaker
[08:25] <reka> Yuki: you logged into it?
[08:25] <mebaran151> oh Heimdall do you get a grub prompt?
[08:25] <Yuki> I logged out, and logged back in as myself
[08:25] <Heimdall> mebaran151 yes
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: it's at max for master.  How do I check the others?
[08:25] <mebaran151> ok
[08:25] <mebaran151> you arent in such bad luck
[08:25] <_0kills> Yuki, did you switch which window manager to use by clicking the Session option at start up?
[08:26] <Yuki> uh...no...o_o
[08:26] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, also, check to see if you have multiple devices. in volume control
[08:26] <_0kills> hehe
[08:26] <reka> mebaran151: i forgot.  do you omit make when using checkinstall?
[08:26] <Yuki> XD
[08:26] <Yuki> ok
[08:26] <Yuki> brb
[08:26] <mebaran151> doesnt matter
[08:26] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, double click on the volume control icon near your clock
[08:26] <mebaran151> checkinstall will figure it out
[08:26] <mebaran151> I've done it either way
[08:26] <reka> righto
[08:26] <mebaran151> it runs make && make install
[08:26] <Heimdall> ??
[08:26] <mebaran151> oh
[08:26] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: ok, I've turned them all up.  Most didn't allow me to turn them down
[08:26] <mebaran151> what is your root drive
[08:26] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, that'll show you master, PCM and pc speaker. you can also check file > change device to see if you have more than one device
[08:26] <mebaran151> drive one or two
[08:26] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: but still no sound when i try to test
[08:27] <mebaran151> root (hd0,0)
[08:27] <mebaran151> let me copy mine here
[08:27] <mebaran151> like two lines
[08:27] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, paste the output from amixer onto the pastebin in the topic
[08:27] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, do you have more than one mixer in file > change device?
[08:27] <tiglionabbit> whoa
[08:27] <tiglionabbit> zomg sound
[08:27] <tiglionabbit> I switched the device in the volume thing, and turned up PCM1 and PCM2 and I can hear it now
[08:28] <reka> TinyIRC: how so?  did you try the autodetect?
[08:28] <jasoncohen> heh
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> I didn't realize there were so many volume levels hidden in here
[08:28] <jasoncohen> heh, turning up the volume is usually good
[08:28] <mebaran151> Heimdall, root (hd0,0)
[08:28] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, which device did you have to change- ALSA or OSS?
[08:28] <keith_> hey all
[08:28] <Heimdall> mebaran151 to do what ?
[08:28] <hosler> crimsun: im getting problems with only one programs being able to use the sound card with alsa.
[08:28] <mebaran151> at the prompt type
[08:28] <jasoncohen> one should show as an OSS mixer and the other as an ALSA mixer
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I turned up the OSS device and suddenly I can hear sound from ALSA.  Why does that make no sense to me?
[08:28] <mebaran151> root (hd0,0) assuming your first drive is your linux drive
[08:28] <crimsun> hosler, tell the alsa programs to use plug:dmix
[08:29] <mebaran151> then kernel /vmlinuz
[08:29] <Heimdall> mebaran151 : linux is /dev/hda3
[08:29] <hosler> crimsun: where do i do that?
[08:29] <crimsun> hosler, (instead of hw:0 or plughw:0, etc.)
[08:29] <mebaran151> ok
[08:29] <crimsun> hosler, wherever you configure the alsa settings per-application
[08:29] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, both devices control the sound. i need both set or i get no sound as well
[08:29] <mebaran151> root (hd0,2)
[08:29] <keith_> anyone got packetnews to work properly yet?
[08:29] <_0kills> anyone know if KDE uses esd, if not what does it use?
[08:30] <jasoncohen> crimsun, why are there multiple mixer devices which need to be set to control the same soundcard?
[08:30] <mebaran151> kernel /vimlinuz root=/dev/hda3
[08:30] <mebaran151> initrd /initrd.img
[08:30] <mebaran151> boot
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> I seem to be having programs downloading kernel-source
[08:30] <mebaran151> just type those four lines
[08:30] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, well, is sound working again everywhere?
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: lol, this is hilariously weird.  xmame reports that it is using the OSS mixer.  However, the volumes on my OSS mixer were way down and inaudible, but I could hear sound from xmame.  When I turned up those volumes, I can suddenly hear sound when I hit the test button for ALSA in my multimedia selector
[08:30] <mebaran151> and you are good to go
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:30] <mebaran151> sorry
[08:30] <hosler> crimsun: i have no plug:dmix
[08:30] <Yuki> yay
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: yes, everywhere
[08:30] <Yuki> it worked!
[08:30] <Yuki> tyty!
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> thank you so much
[08:30] <mebaran151> kernl /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3
[08:30] <reka> ColonelKernel: programs or problems?
[08:31] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, i have the same issue. both mixers control volume
[08:31] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, you probably have two mixers for the same device like i do
[08:31] <hosler> crimsun: only hw:0,0 and hw:0,4
[08:31] <grphx> How come I can print a test page on my printer, but can't print stuff from Gimp?
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> reka, its just me being a ubuntu noob - I dont know what manual to read to get the source code for my currently running kernel
[08:32] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: my volume control has Intel (alsa mixer) and Cirrus Logic (OSS mixer)
[08:32] <FLeiXiuS> ColonelKernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:32] <tiglionabbit> when I select preferences
[08:32] <crimsun> jasoncohen, they're not two mixers. They're two views (oss via alsa's oss emulation and alsa natively) of the same mixer.
[08:32] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[08:32] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, ignore that, heh
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> source plz
[08:32] <FLeiXiuS> jasoncohen: linux-image isn't the source :-P
[08:32] <FLeiXiuS> ColonelKernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> headers isnt source either, is it?
[08:33] <jasoncohen> FLeiXiuS, i know- that's why i told him to ignore it
[08:33] <crimsun> hosler, do you have an audigy-based sound card?
[08:33] <FLeiXiuS> ColonelKernel: yes, headers would be your source.
[08:33] <jasoncohen> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[08:33] <reka> is there a difference b/n linux-headers/linux-source?
[08:33] <Heimdall> damn the mebaran solution does not work
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, thanks
[08:33] <hosler> crimsun: i have the intel ich
[08:33] <bassgoon> where do you put a command in ubuntu to run on startup
[08:33] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: thank you so much for explaining that to me.  I had no idea the meters for the device I hadn't selected mattered too
[08:33] <crimsun> reka, yes. The headers are the headers; the source is the source. You use the former to compile kernel modules.
[08:34] <reka> and the latter?
[08:34] <bigfoot1> how can i make links in other programs point to galeon, rather than firefox?
[08:34] <FLeiXiuS> jasoncohen: linux-headers are more updated and more precise.  Just letting you know.
[08:34] <ColonelKernel> FLeiXiuS, I dont think youre right about that
[08:34] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, it doesn't really make much sense to me either. Just think of it like having two mixers to control the same device and you need both to be set correctly
[08:34] <jasoncohen> FLeiXiuS, he said he needed source- not headers\
[08:34] <jasoncohen> they're not the same
[08:34] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, the meters really don't matter. Like I said, they're two views of the same mixer. You may be less confused if you use amixer directly.
[08:34] <adwait> bigfoot1: system>preferences>preffered apps
[08:34] <reka> bigfoot1: sys > prefs > preferred apps
[08:34] <bassgoon> anyone?
[08:35] <bassgoon> where do I put a command that I want to run on startup
[08:35] <FLeiXiuS> jasoncohen: Ah, thought he was compiling to the kernel :-p...I just walked in excuse my ignorance.
[08:35] <jasoncohen> crimsun, not really- one can be set to 0 and the other to 100
[08:35] <crimsun> hosler, paste me (via pastebin in the topic) the output of cat /proc/asound/devices
[08:35] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: what do you mean?
[08:35] <adwait> reka: ??
[08:35] <adwait> ooh
[08:35] <jasoncohen> crimsun, changing one doesn't change the other. you need to set both
[08:35] <crimsun> jasoncohen, that's an application issue that needs a bug filed with gnome-media.
[08:35] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, startup of the system or of gnome?
[08:36] <reka> adwait: on the contrary...you were too fast. :D
[08:36] <crimsun> jasoncohen, it really has -nothing- to do with alsa or esound.
[08:36] <jasoncohen> i didn't say it did
[08:36] <bassgoon> system
[08:36] <adwait> reka: hehe
[08:36] <tiglionabbit> why is it that xmame reports that the only available mixer is OSS?
[08:36] <bassgoon> I'm a bit of a nub
[08:36] <tiglionabbit> (yet makes sound anyway even when OSS is turned down)
[08:36] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, if xmame is a pure oss app, then it will only support the oss opi.
[08:36] <bigfoot1> any skype users here? I have a hard time closing it from my panel. anybody else have this problem?
[08:37] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, you can go to system > settings > preferences > sessions and add applications to startup programs
[08:37] <jasoncohen> that'll start with gnome
[08:37] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, s/opi/api/
[08:37] <bassgoon> eer, but for the system?
[08:37] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: it reports that there are several dsp-plugins available, including alsa, but for sound-mixer-plugins it only sees OSS-mixer
[08:37] <hosler> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/17298
[08:37] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, create an init script and update-r.cd scriptname defaults
[08:37] <jasoncohen> also chmod +x script
[08:38] <bassgoon> I'm asking in proxy for my friend...he needs to run a command at boot for networking
[08:38] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, if it has the alsa dsp plugin available, did you enable it? Is it even installed if so?
[08:38] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, the script can be very simple. i have one that just does su -c jason /usr/bin/vnc4server for example
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: huh?
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: how do I do that?
[08:38] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, if xmame reports that it can use alsa, did you select alsa?
[08:38] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, but the first line needs "#! /bin/bash"
[08:38] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, I've never used xmame. You'll need to read the documentation on how to do that.
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: yes, it reports that it is using alsa for its dsp-plugin when it starts
[08:39] <bigfoot1> i have already changed the preferred apps-->Web Browser from Firefox to Galeon, but skype still opens up the chat history in Firefox. What's up?
[08:39] <bassgoon> ah
[08:39] <crimsun> hosler, which apps are you using?
[08:40] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, update-rc.d script defaults will add the script as an init script which can be selected in rcconf or boot up manager
[08:40] <crimsun> hosler, essentially what you need to do is configure ubuntu to use dmix
[08:40] <hosler> crimsun: im testing with xmms
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: how do I get alsa-mixer?
[08:40] <bassgoon> jasoncohen, maybe I'm all wrong, but couldn't I just add the command to  /etc/conf.d/local.start
[08:40] <crimsun> tiglionabbit, alsamixer comes with ubuntu
[08:40] <jasoncohen> crimsun, should i bother reporting the issue of multiple mixers? i thought it was a common issue
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: then why don't the programs I run detect it?
[08:40] <bassgoon> cause its a pretty simple little thingy
[08:41] <hosler> crimsun: Ok, where do I configure ubuntu to use dmix. I allready looked in the two places you mentioned before.
[08:41] <adwait> m out ppl......bbye
[08:41] <crimsun> jasoncohen, that's not an issue, really, because of the presence of snd_mixer_oss
[08:41] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, i don't even have that file
[08:41] <bassgoon> oh
[08:41] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, init scripts are the recommended method
[08:41] <crimsun> hosler, jasoncohen pasted a link above you may find helpful
[08:41] <jasoncohen> what exactly do you want to start?
[08:41] <bassgoon> perhaps its silly me carrying over from like the 20 differfent distros I've played with
[08:41] <grphx> How hard is it to add "shortcuts" to your desktop?
[08:41] <jasoncohen> hosler, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:41] <tiglionabbit> grphx: easy.  Right-click and make a launcher
[08:42] <ivan> is there a way to fix an ext3 partition which gives me this error when i try to fsck: Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[08:42] <bassgoon> jasoncohen, I believe its ok as long as the command returns control to the shell
[08:42] <tiglionabbit> grphx: you need to know the terminal command to start the program though
[08:42] <jasoncohen> i have a new bookmarks section in firefox for ubuntu related stuff :)
[08:42] <hosler> jasoncohen: ok thanks ill look at it
[08:42] <grphx> I just want to add shortcuts to folders..
[08:42] <ColonelKernel> how do I read gzipped files?
[08:42] <jasoncohen> bassgoon, i prefer this method as you can control whether you want to start the script through rcconf easily
[08:42] <bassgoon> yea
[08:43] <jasoncohen> and then it's just /etc/init.d/service start
[08:43] <tiglionabbit> grphx: oh, in that case, right-click on the folder and select "Make a link"
[08:43] <jasoncohen> if it's not started on boot
[08:43] <Aerebus> is anyone here familiar with customizing splash screens? in ubuntu there is a orangish brown background behind the ubuntu-splash.png, is it possible to change that background color?
[08:43] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: I believe that is your background color, from system -> preferences -> desktop background
[08:43] <ColonelKernel> im trying to read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz
[08:44] <mebaran151> ColonelKernel, you might try unzipping them
[08:44] <mebaran151> file roller is the easiest way
[08:44] <Aerebus> tiglionabbit, i dont think it is i have that option set to black and its still orangish brown =/
[08:44] <vaultspawn> .......How can I install software from the repository????
[08:45] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, you sure? for me it's just black there and my background starting up is brown
[08:45] <grphx> So right click on the folder I want to put on my desktop and then click on what?
[08:45] <mebaran151> vaultspawn, gksudo synaptic
[08:45] <humbraro> related to bassgoon's question: does ubuntu have anything equivilant to rc.local, or do you have to roll your own?
[08:45] <mebaran151> we have run levels ....
[08:45] <mebaran151> and you can write your own init scripts
[08:45] <mebaran151> if you really want to
[08:45] <mebaran151> I dont think there is as much one stop shopping for files
[08:45] <tiglionabbit> grphx: make a link
[08:45] <jasoncohen> humbraro, i don't think there's anything like rc.local - you want a generic- drop the crap you want to start on boot but don't feel like making a sys v init file for, right?
[08:45] <mebaran151> you also have a directory
[08:45] <dllh> Brand spanking new to ubuntu here and have some quick questions.
[08:46] <littlered> Damn it. >_>
[08:46] <grphx> "Make a link" is greyed out
[08:46] <littlered> Guifications has screwed up my gaim and now I can't see the tray icon.
[08:46] <humbraro> jasoncohen exactly
[08:46] <vaultspawn> mebaran151: Thanks
[08:46] <jasoncohen> humbraro, i asked that on #debian a few months ago and they just told me to use the method i suggested to bassgoon
[08:46] <dllh> I'm accustomed from FCx to /etc/rc.d/init.d/<service> start|stop|restart|etc. What's comparable?
[08:46] <humbraro> i can make one, but it seems like a  kludge
[08:46] <jasoncohen> humbraro, it's really easy to do and gives you more control as it's a real service
[08:46] <tiglionabbit> grphx: then you don't have write access to that directory..  Kinda sucks nautilus behaves that way...   uh
[08:46] <humbraro> cool
[08:47] <linlin> is ubuntu good for a server, honestly, or would it be better to jsut load debian or centos even
[08:47] <grphx> The folder I'm trying to link is NTSF
[08:47] <tiglionabbit> grphx: you can still make a launcher on the desktop with the command "nautilus /the/directory/you/want"
[08:47] <Heimdall> no mean to get back my menu.lst file from the grub command ?????
[08:47] <jasoncohen> humbraro, just gedit /etc/init.d/service - start with "#! /bin/sh" and then on the next line or the line after put the command you want to run - most likely with a & so it runs without output
[08:47] <jasoncohen> humbraro, then update-rc.d service defaults
[08:47] <jasoncohen> chmod +x service
[08:48] <humbraro> hmm, sysV init scripts are unfamiliar to me, i'm used to bsd style, where they're just executable in /etc/rc.d
[08:48] <jasoncohen> sorry, chmod +x /etc/init.d/service
[08:48] <hosler> jasoncohen: following this tutorial, do I allow the sound server to start at startup, or do i dissable this option?
[08:48] <Razor-X> uggghhh,. i'm tired of watching my parents watch London
[08:48] <humbraro> jasoncohen: thanks!
[08:48] <jasoncohen> hosler, i have it startup - i like the gnome sounds. the ubuntuguide says not to but it works fine for me and i get multiplexing
[08:49] <transgress> libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb <-- has there been any problems with this package?
[08:49] <hosler> jasoncohen: ok
[08:49] <Heimdall> well is there someone here who can give me a basci grub command to boot ubuntu ??
[08:49] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: you're video and audio is mixing?
[08:49] <jasoncohen> hosler, i get gnome sounds while playing rhythbox, amarok, xine, mplayer etc.
[08:49] <Heimdall> basic*
[08:49] <Razor-X> Heimdall: the GRB docs are invaluable
[08:49] <hosler> jasoncohen: cool. im gonna reboot now and test
[08:49] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, video and audio mixing?
[08:49] <jasoncohen> what do you mean?
[08:49] <Heimdall> Razor-X : I don't manage to do something with it
[08:50] <jasoncohen> wiat...why did he reboot?
[08:50] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: that's what muxing (multiplexing) is
[08:50] <Razor-X> mixing audo-and-video streams
[08:50] <jasoncohen> i thought it could be used to refer to having sound from multiple applications simultaneously on a hardware device that doesn't necessarily support it
[08:50] <jasoncohen> the mixing is down on software. that's what ESD does- right?
[08:51] <Razor-X> that's duplexing ;)
[08:51] <jasoncohen> ah
[08:51] <crimsun> no
[08:51] <jasoncohen> no to what?
[08:51] <Razor-X> or, am I wrong?
[08:51] <crimsun> duplex is the in-out view
[08:51] <IceDC571> is sourceforge not working?
[08:51] <crimsun> jasoncohen is correct to think of multiplexing in the esound context
[08:51] <jasoncohen> oh, ok - good
[08:51] <crimsun> Razor-X is also correct to view it as a/v
[08:52] <jasoncohen> i guess i was right that i read that somewhere
[08:52] <crimsun> duplex, in the context of sound, is recording and playback
[08:52] <crimsun> half-duplex, full-duplex, etc.
[08:52] <jasoncohen> yeah, a full-duplex soundcard can play & record simultaneously
[08:52] <ColonelKernel> how do I prevent the gui from loading when I boot up? it doesnt seem to be a runlevel thing
[08:52] <jasoncohen> and that's needed for using audio/video conferencing tools
[08:53] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: it generally is, Runlevel 2 is Terminal
[08:53] <ColonelKernel> well im in runlevel 2 and gnome is up
[08:53] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[08:53] <jasoncohen> can't you just stop gdm from running in rcconf
[08:53] <Razor-X> then quit gnome manually
[08:53] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, no, im trying to get it not to start when the box boots.
[08:54] <Razor-X> IceDC571: I said above that I don't care about girls
[08:54] <jasoncohen> if gdm doesn't startup you'll be left at the console
[08:54] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, that is what I want - to start in console mode and start gnome manually
[08:54] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: disable gdm (or your equivalent desktop manager)
[08:54] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: are you up to a challenge?
[08:54] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, rcconf controls what services are started on boot
[08:54] <ColonelKernel> how do I go about doing that?
[08:54] <Razor-X> live one week in only console mode
[08:54] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, just disable gdm
[08:55] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, sudo apt-get install rcconf
[08:55] <Heimdall> Razor-X : kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5.383
[08:55] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, sudo rcconf (uncheck gdm) , OK
[08:55] <Heimdall> Razor-X : but root ?
[08:55] <Razor-X> Heimdall: hmmmm?
[08:55] <Heimdall> Razor-X : my linux is on /dev/hda3
[08:55] <Razor-X> uhhhhh?
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, NICE - thanks
[08:55] <Razor-X> I wasn't helping you before.... :(
[08:55] <Heimdall> a type root=/dev/hda3
[08:55] <Heimdall> oh sorry
[08:55] <Razor-X> hehe
[08:56] <Razor-X> I can help though
[08:56] <Heimdall> lol
[08:56] <Heimdall> are you aware of my pb ?
[08:56] <babyfire> hola
[08:56] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, why are you telling him not to use the console? perhaps he wants to learn or maybe he's running a server in which case X is useless
[08:56] <Razor-X> just reiterate it for me, and i'll try to help
[08:56] <babyfire> popsmibisco
[08:56] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: I said, use the console for a week only
[08:56] <Heimdall> renamed the menu.lst file, need to type the grub command to boot and rename it again
[08:56] <Razor-X> as a challenge ;)
[08:56] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, you know you can install a very light ubuntu by typing server at the install prompt
[08:56] <Heimdall> :)
[08:57] <babyfire> i think im in trouble
[08:57] <jasoncohen> ColonelKernel, it'll only install ubuntu-base and not ubuntu-desktop. basically you'll have the basics- no X, gnome etc.
[08:57] <babyfire> what does rm -rf/ do
[08:57] <_0kills> hey, anyone know how to kill the sound in KDE.. (i.e.. in gnome you type pkill esd)
[08:57] <Razor-X> babyfire: DONT DO THAT
[08:57] <Razor-X> now, here's what it does
[08:57] <babyfire> some one told me
[08:57] <babyfire> and i did
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> jasoncohen, ill give that a shot on my server box
[08:57] <Razor-X> OMFG
[08:57] <Heimdall> Razor-X : so I 'm trying to boot with my commands....... but i don't grub very much
[08:57] <jasoncohen> babyfire, rm -rf / will wipe out your entire system
[08:57] <Fikrann> Someone removed his files, eh?
[08:57] <Razor-X> it's called the noob virus for a reason
[08:57] <jasoncohen> if you run it as an admin
[08:58] <Fikrann> heh
[08:58] <jasoncohen> babyfire, not a good idea
[08:58] <Razor-X> someone needs to add taht to the topic
[08:58] <DekaPink> Aaaagh.
[08:58] <jasoncohen> babyfire, hopefully he didn't tell you how to use sudo :)
[08:58] <babyfire> i souldnt trust people
[08:58] <DekaPink> Not my gaim keeps freezing at 'sending cookie' when trying to connect to MSN.
[08:58] <babyfire> am i going to be ok
[08:58] <Razor-X> babyfire: no, that's one of the things you should never do
[08:58] <thenuke_> babyfire: depends.
[08:58] <Razor-X> did you run it as sudo?
[08:58] <jasoncohen> babyfire, well, when you ran it- what happened?
[08:58] <Razor-X> if yes then the answer is "..............."
[08:58] <babyfire> will sudo -k fix it
[08:59] <thenuke_> babyfire: if you do that as a root, it will delete all files on your harddrive
[08:59] <Razor-X> babyfire: if it's running, do it now
[08:59] <jasoncohen> if he did it as root he wouldn't be here now
[08:59] <crimsun> no, sudo -k only invalidates the timestamp. It won't undo a sudo rm -rf /
[08:59] <jasoncohen> assuming he's on the same box
[08:59] <thenuke_> babyfire: if you do that as a user and not as a admin, it will delete only your users files
[08:59] <Fikrann> Razor-X, add 'rm -fr /' to the topic? I would advise against that .. too big probability that someone will run it just because it was 'in the topic'.
[08:59] <DekaPink> Anyone know what the problem might be? :3
[08:59] <jasoncohen> lol, nothing will fix a sudo rm -rf / other than a full restore from a backup of  /
[08:59] <```bulldogg> okay........... I need to find some software to burn dvds.  Can anyone help me?
[08:59] <```bulldogg> peferably something thats gui interfaced
[08:59] <jasoncohen> babyfire, well...does the system still work?
[09:00] <crimsun> DekaPink, the version of Gaim in Hoary?
[09:00] <jasoncohen> don't type in random commands because "someone" said to
[09:00] <Razor-X> Fikrann: what about *DON'T DO THIS* rm -rf / *DON'T DO THIS*
[09:00] <babyfire> ok iit is running
[09:00] <DekaPink> crimsun: 1.3.1, it says.
[09:00] <crimsun> Razor-X, nah. See the thing about Breezy?
[09:00] <linlin> capital -R isnt it?
[09:00] <Razor-X> babyfire: kill it now
[09:00] <Fikrann> ```bulldogg, install k3b
[09:00] <jasoncohen> DekaPink, you're using backports
[09:00] <babyfire> when i put it in it just gave my  command prompt
[09:00] <Razor-X> crimsun: oh, heh, that's true
[09:00] <jasoncohen> DekaPink, oh, and 1.4.0 is in backports now btw
[09:00] <hule> hello.  i have a hopefully quick question.  i just installed Hoary, and I'm trying to get my DLink DWL 520 RevE1 PCI card to work.  I can load the hostap driver, but i can't get it to load firmware.  the hostap stuff makes it hang, and the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DLinkDWL520E1 don't work.  has anyone here gotten it to work?
[09:00] <DekaPink> jasoncohen: Er... How do I fix it? :D
[09:01] <Fikrann> Razor-X, Perhaps that would be enough .. but I still there'd be users dumb enough to run it anyway.
[09:01] <jasoncohen> DekaPink, a) apt-get upgrade to upgrade to 1.4.0
[09:01] <sunrex> ok..
[09:01] <jasoncohen> DekaPink, if that doesn't work (probably won't), go to #gaim
[09:01] <Razor-X> Fikrann: well, it's their problem
[09:01] <sunrex> is there a code to delete EVERYTHING on the HD
[09:01] <jasoncohen> they're pretty knowledgeable..mostly gaim devs
[09:01] <Razor-X> or, someone should program tehir bot to intercept that
[09:01] <babyfire> i guess i didnt crash
[09:01] <```bulldogg> yeah I can do that for the actual burn....and I will use k3b but I need a ripper/decrypter and a compressor
[09:01] <jasoncohen> sunrex, code -... sudo rm -rf / will do that for you
[09:01] <babyfire> so im ok
[09:01] <Razor-X> because that command is much too dangerous for the average user
[09:02] <sunrex> thanks
[09:02] <Fikrann> hule, check if your firmware is in /lib/hotplug/firmware
[09:02] <jasoncohen> babyfire, you might have lost your user files
[09:02] <sunrex> ill be back in 3 hours or so
[09:02] <Razor-X> sunrex: you said that?
[09:02] <jasoncohen> sunrex, don't do that
[09:02] <sunrex> why
[09:02] <babyfire> i just started ive had ubuntu for 27 hours
[09:02] <grphx> What's some good linux video editing software?
[09:02] <jasoncohen> if you want to delete everything on the HD
[09:02] <Razor-X> never say that.... EVER
[09:02] <jasoncohen> just reformat the drive
[09:02] <sunrex> Jasoncohen: why?
[09:02] <sunrex> why not just delete it?
[09:02] <amonkey> grphx, mac os x
[09:02] <babyfire> btw where is my KDE control center
[09:02] <jasoncohen> because it'll be faster and it's stupid to rm -rf / for no reason
[09:02] <Razor-X> because the FS structure stays on the HDD
[09:03] <amonkey> well, it's unix but still
[09:03] <sunrex> no reason..im destroying all files on it and reinstalling
[09:03] <jasoncohen> sunrex, just reformat
[09:03] <hule> Fikrann, I just copied it in.  cross my fingers and reboot?
[09:03] <sunrex> lol how..
[09:03] <jasoncohen> sunrex, in the installer, there's a choice to keep the data or to reformat
[09:03] <pinko> you guys probably shouldn't be saying that in the channel...
[09:03] <jasoncohen> choose to reformat
[09:03] <HappyFool> grphx: maybe you could try cinepaint
[09:04] <Fikrann> hule, pop the card out and plug it in?
[09:04] <Razor-X> reformat wipes the FS of much more cleanly, rm leaves more traces
[09:04] <jasoncohen> sunrex, and you probably just need to reformat / but you can keep /home's data
[09:04] <jasoncohen> why are you reinstalling anyways?
[09:04] <humbraro> sunrex: just do a mk2fs -j /dev/device_to_format - its faster
[09:04] <babyfire> i am going to go drown my self in cable
[09:04] <babyfire> peace guys
[09:04] <Razor-X> exactly
[09:04] <babyfire> laters
[09:04] <jasoncohen> humbraro, he's re-installing. the installer will reformat for him
[09:04] <hule> Fikrann, it's a PCI card. not so convenient to access.  i'll just reboot and hope it works
[09:04] <GNULinuxer> Razor-X: is it ok to use Debian repos in Ubuntu?
[09:04] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, no
[09:05] <GNULinuxer> jasoncohen: hmm
[09:05] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer: no
[09:05] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, first of all, 99% of what's in debian is in hoary
[09:05] <jasoncohen> secondly, it won't work because dependencies are different and naming of packages is different
[09:05] <jasoncohen> why would you want to?
[09:05] <GNULinuxer> jasoncohen: i though the debian repos *might* have more packages
[09:05] <jasoncohen> if you need something from sid you can use backports or hoary-extras. if you don't, just use ubuntu's repositories
[09:06] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, hoary has over 16,000 packages
[09:06] <GNULinuxer> jasoncohen: fine ...
[09:06] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer: you're better off compiling
[09:06] <jasoncohen> if you enable universe you'll have most anything you would want
[09:06] <hule> do fw_primary and fw_secondary actually work as advertised in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:06] <DekaPink> Damn me and my screwing things up.
[09:06] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, read this - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[09:07] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: anything you'ld want in the "universe" ;)
[09:07] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, if you use main, restricted, universe, and multiverse you'll have nearly everything in debian and more
[09:07] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, heh
[09:07] <GNULinuxer> jasoncohen: fine, thanks
[09:08] <Fikrann> hule, ah, sorry, I thought you meant PCIMCIA card.
[09:08] <jasoncohen> with main, restricted, universe, multiverse, backports & hoary-extras you basically get everything in sid + marillat minus a few packages
[09:08] <jasoncohen> heh, i tried recompiling the ubuntu update manager for sid...it didn't work too well
[09:08] <jasoncohen> there were too many missing python 2.4 dependencies
[09:10] <jasoncohen> GNULinuxer, is there something in particular you need that you think ubuntu is missing. you can search all ubuntu packages with ubuntu.packages.com
[09:10] <jasoncohen> sorry - packages.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <Fikrann> hule, you might want to try rmmodding the driver and modprobing it back instead of reboot.
[09:11] <jasoncohen> Fikrann, heh, it's so hard getting windows users to restart services/ reload modules. they always think they have to reboot
[09:11] <eskaypey> hey i cant play music in beep
[09:12] <Razor-X> eskaypey: does music itself work?
[09:12] <eskaypey> it just doesnt play, no error no nothing
[09:12] <Razor-X> errr, sound itself
[09:12] <jasoncohen> and it's no wonder why. i was installing updates on my sister's XP box and it wanted me to reboot to complete the install of a tool which assists in upgrades and of course when you install the updates you have to reboot once again and if you don't it pops up with incessant messages telling you to do so
[09:12] <IceDC571> ack.. fedora has packages i want for xmms... why isnt ubuntu as active in the package department?
[09:12] <hule> Fikrann, do i need to tell hotplug to load the firmware, or does it magically figure this stuff out?
[09:12] <eskaypey> yes i can play it in totem
[09:12] <Razor-X> IceDC571: it _is_
[09:12] <Razor-X> what package do you need?
[09:12] <Fikrann> hule, it will figure it out.
[09:13] <reka> eskaypey: try changing the output plugin in preferences
[09:13] <IceDC571> Razor-X: xmms-aac
[09:13] <jasoncohen> eskaypey, right click , choose preferences, plugins > and choose the esound output plugin
[09:13] <jasoncohen> then try again
[09:13] <Razor-X> IceDC571: just use something like VLC or aac playback
[09:13] <Razor-X> or compile it in yourself
[09:13] <jasoncohen> eskaypey, the OSS output plugin doesn't work for some people
[09:13] <reka> jasoncohen: hehe.  when i reinstall windows, almost every single app wants you to reboot
[09:13] <eskaypey> ok i'll try that
[09:14] <IceDC571> Razor-X: its a nightmare to compile yourself.. you need to set a bunch of config files before you do ./configure
[09:14] <jasoncohen> in 98, if you wanted to change your screen resolution you had to reboot
[09:14] <Razor-X> IceDC571: I do it quite often
[09:14] <TinyIRC> Anyone knows how to configure Dial-up in the UBUNTU?
[09:14] <jasoncohen> install a screensaver...reboot!
[09:14] <HappyFool> IceDC571: apt-cache search shows 'xmms-mp4' which apparently plays aac files -- is that what you want?
[09:14] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: i do
[09:14] <Razor-X> IceDC571: the terminal i'm in is compiled that way
[09:14] <IceDC571> HappyFool: there actually is a package in the repository?
[09:14] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: the only hard bit might be getting your modem working
[09:14] <Razor-X> plus I compiled in native twin support
[09:14] <jasoncohen> the last time i restarted my sarge box is when i hooked in the wrong S-video cable and couldn't figure out why tv-out wasn't working and the time before that the power went out
[09:14] <action09> TinyIRC  on another distrib, a long time ago.. i used to use  'pppconfig'
[09:14] <IceDC571> !info xmms-mp4
[09:15] <HappyFool> IceDC571: there's a package called 'xmms-mp4' not 'xmms-aac'
[09:15] <ubotu> xmms-mp4: (a mp4/aac audio player for xmms), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-0.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[09:15] <IceDC571> omg
[09:15] <HappyFool> ooh
[09:15] <IceDC571> HappyFool: you saved me hours and my life!
[09:15] <HappyFool> IceDC571: ok
[09:15] <IceDC571> thank you
[09:15] <HappyFool> neat. does ubotu know all packages?
[09:15] <Razor-X> hey Sammi_!
[09:15] <TinyIRC> yes, the problem.  the modem is in the device manager but when i used autodect it cannot find
[09:15] <Razor-X> HappyFool: I don't think so
[09:15] <TinyIRC> i use the PPPconfig then add an entry there.
[09:15] <bob2> HappyFool: all the ones in ubuntu, yes
[09:15] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: what modem do you have
[09:15] <HappyFool> bob2: cool :)
[09:15] <Razor-X> bob2: really? everything?
[09:16] <TinyIRC> after that i issue a command pon <connection>
[09:16] <Razor-X> wow, that must take a few gigs
[09:16] <IceDC571> what the crap its not in my repository
[09:16] <IceDC571> lets see whats wrong with my sources file :)
[09:16] <eskaypey> thanks
[09:16] <Razor-X> IceDC571: there's a generic sources.list from somewhere
[09:16] <TinyIRC> i think the problem is how i will update the modem.
[09:16] <bob2> Razor-X: eh? look in /var/lib/apt/lists/ on your machine, that has all the info ubotu needs
[09:16] <HappyFool> !sources
[09:16] <ubotu> methinks sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:16] <Razor-X> Sammi_: so, ah, hey? ^_^
[09:16] <bob2> (and it's on the order of megs)
[09:16] <TinyIRC> anyone can help me make my modem working?
[09:16] <IceDC571> universe-sound eh? is that enabled on default?
[09:16] <Razor-X> bob2: woah, really....
[09:16] <HappyFool> IceDC571: look at that link for a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <IceDC571> thanks HappyFool
[09:17] <Heimdall> HappyFool ! :-p
[09:17] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: what modem do you have?
[09:17] <HappyFool> hey Heimdall :)
[09:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: got ADSL yet?
[09:17] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yep, 4Mb now....
[09:17] <TinyIRC> happyFool, i have the internal modem. HS56K
[09:17] <Madpilot> Hi all
[09:17] <Heimdall> HappyFool : little pb should be 8 :)
[09:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: nice ;)
[09:18] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: it's a winmodem?
[09:18] <Heimdall> HappyFool : not so nice I can't use it
[09:18] <jcoxon> morning all
[09:18] <eskaypey> one more thing guys
[09:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i meant the 4Mb :P
[09:18] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes but 4Mb too I can't use it
[09:18] <eskaypey> when you minimize windows the border shows when it goes down the tray
[09:18] <jasoncohen> so if the itunes m4p files are encrypted, what is used to decrypt them?
[09:18] <Heimdall> because I can't boot my OS :-'(
[09:18] <Razor-X> "Damn you Linus Torvald, why do your children have to be so damn
[09:18] <Razor-X> prolific?"
[09:18] <eskaypey> how do i turn that border off
[09:18] <reka> afternoon jcoxon
[09:18] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:19] <Sammi_> Hello, Razor.
[09:19] <Madpilot> did my part to spread the virus tonight... had my grandfather run a Hoary LiveCD on his Win98 box... :)
[09:19] <grphx> I downloaded a binary for a program I want to use, how can I install it now?
[09:19] <Sammi_> Razor, stop stealing my lines. :P
[09:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : i've made a mistake, are you familiar with grub ?
[09:19] <TinyIRC> i guess so, it is a Winmodem.
[09:19] <jasoncohen> reka, heh, it's 3 am here :)
[09:19] <Madpilot> sad part was, the LiveCD was about as fast at starting programs & surfing as the installed Win98..
[09:19] <Razor-X> well... I quoted you... -_-
[09:19] <reka> Madpilot: and he used it?
[09:19] <Razor-X> sorry Sammi_
[09:20] <Razor-X> I quoted, rather
[09:20] <Madpilot> reka: yup. showed him FF & OpenOffice
[09:20] <TinyIRC> i check the CD and the drivers is only for Windows
[09:20] <reka> grphx: what prog?
[09:20] <grphx> Cinelerra
[09:20] <bungopolis> What is the base install size for an ubuntu install?
[09:20] <Razor-X> Madpilot: that's moreso true with Windows ME
[09:20] <jasoncohen> reka, where do you live?
[09:20] <eskaypey> is there a way to take the border outline off when the window goes to tray?
[09:20] <bungopolis> I'm deciding on a partition scheme... is 10GB enough?
[09:20] <IceDC571> thats why its not in my repository its already installed.. i am so confused
[09:20] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: i'm going to assume ubuntu does not come with a driver for it (I may be wrong) -- go to http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/, download scanModem and run it to find out what driver you need
[09:20] <Razor-X> Sammi_: it gets real chaotic here, as you can tell
[09:20] <reka> jasoncohen: do a whois. :)
[09:20] <reka> Madpilot: nice.
[09:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: err, not very, but I know a little bit
[09:20] <Sammi_> I can handle chaos.
[09:20] <Madpilot> Razor-X: Ouch. this is a pretty messed up install of 98, too
[09:21] <Razor-X> Sammi_: heh, well just sit back and watch ^_^
[09:21] <jasoncohen> reka, ah, australia
[09:21] <Heimdall> HappyFool : probably more than me anyway.... I've renamed the menu.lst file :-D
[09:21] <Razor-X> Madpilot: yeah, it's uber-fscked
[09:21] <TinyIRC> hello happyfool, i can see the modem in the device manager but cannot detect in the ppp connection.
[09:21] <Razor-X> Windows ME, I mean
[09:21] <grphx> reka: It's Cinelerra
[09:21] <Heimdall> HappyFool : so now I can't boot anymore
[09:21] <Razor-X> TinyIRC: what's the path to the device?
[09:21] <hule> Fikrann, ok, so hotplug isn't figuring it out (dmesg doesn't it is figuring stuff out), and when i try to grab an IP, it complains about there not being firmware on the card
[09:21] <reka> grphx: ah.  what format is the file in?
[09:21] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: i think you may nonetheless need a specific kernel module (aka driver) for your modem
[09:22] <grphx> Um it opened up with file bender
[09:22] <Madpilot> Razor-X: I'd heard that ME was borked, but that's crazy...
[09:22] <grphx> er file roller
[09:22] <Razor-X> Madpilot: I never thought ME was bad... till a friend begged me to do something about his ME box
[09:22] <Razor-X> I had to install a new OS in 10 minutes, lest ME hang
[09:22] <Razor-X> with no other computer in the house -_-
[09:23] <HappyFool> TinyIRC: google only returns 1 hit (!) for HS56K, so I can't tell what that means
[09:23] <grphx> reka: I opened it up with file roller
[09:23] <reka> grphx: which one did you choose here: http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 ?
[09:23] <Madpilot> Razor-X: moved him to Ubuntu?
[09:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: do you have the live cd?
[09:23] <Razor-X> HappyFool: if that was a real word, you woulda google-whacked
[09:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: or even the install cd?
[09:23] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no
[09:23] <TinyIRC> what path.. i see in the path in the device manager for the ubantu..
[09:23] <Razor-X> Madpilot: Knoppix Live CD, actually
[09:23] <Heimdall> HappyFool : install cd yes
[09:23] <grphx> Cinelerra for i386
[09:23] <grphx> binaries
[09:23] <Razor-X> wasn't acquainted with Ubuntu at the time, i'm not sure it existed, actually
[09:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: um. ok, i *think* you can get to a terminal with the install cd
[09:24] <reka> grphx: that's an RPM file
[09:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool : oh ?
[09:24] <reka> grphx: convert it to deb using alien: alien <rpmfile>
[09:24] <Madpilot> Razor-X: ah. I'm pretty sure I can get my grandfather over to U. He's been having stupid probs w/ 98
[09:24] <IceDC571> i found out the real problem
[09:24] <jasoncohen> the ubuntu live CD is very nice. i never had a live CD other than knoppix work so well
[09:24] <IceDC571> xmms doesnt think my m4a files are aac files
[09:24] <reka> grphx: then: dpkg -i <debfile> to install it
[09:24] <Razor-X> Madpilot: heh
[09:24] <jasoncohen> granted...things are slooow running of a CD
[09:24] <IceDC571> i have to rename them to like mp4 or aac
[09:24] <```bulldogg> okay how do you get the whole ubuntu installation........ I am trying to compile a package and it tells me I don't have a C compilier
[09:25] <Razor-X> i've never played an MP4, and have some AAC encoded video
[09:25] <Razor-X> I keep most of my CD rips in FLAC
[09:25] <Madpilot> Razor-X: he's spent a lot of $$$ with various housecall computer ppl. when I hit my Win-knowlege limit...
[09:25] <reka> Madpilot: how old is he?
[09:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: boot the install cd, start the boot (don't actually install !) and press Alt-F2 to get to a different terminal
[09:25] <Razor-X> mmmm, I love FLAC
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: get build-essential
[09:25] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:25] <IceDC571> Razor-X: me too, but i buy from the iTunes music store
[09:25] <Madpilot> reka: 80 this year
[09:25] <jasoncohen> damn...you beat me to it tiglionabbit!
[09:25] <IceDC571> Razor-X: FLAC is awesome
[09:25] <jasoncohen> but i typed in the full command so hah :)
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: sorry =P
[09:25] <Razor-X> IceDC571: yeah
[09:25] <IceDC571> pshh... all that compiling and configuring for nothing
[09:25] <Heimdall> HappyFool : what do you mean by 'start the boot' without installing something ?
[09:25] <IceDC571> but that's the beauty of linux
[09:26] <Razor-X> IceDC571: the more configuring you do, the more customized everything becomes
[09:26] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, build-essential has a C compiler and other assorted tools you'll need to build from source and build deb packages
[09:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, you need to boot linux, so you'll need to choose a 'boot option'
[09:26] <Razor-X> my system is custom-tailored to me
[09:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: on the cd
[09:26] <Razor-X> i'll only make accomodations for a few
[09:26] <Razor-X> (like you Sammi_ ^_^)
[09:26] <Razor-X> or other good friends ;0
[09:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it won't actually install immediately
[09:26] <Razor-X> other than that, i'll leave you to flounder in Eterm/emacs
[09:26] <IceDC571> Razor-X: i learned that building from the source is a lot better than installing packages
[09:26] <reka> Madpilot: wow...just that i don't know any old people who use computers
[09:26] <IceDC571> Razor-X: i get to customize about everything that way
[09:27] <Razor-X> IceDC571: good, that's a neccessary lesson
[09:27] <jasoncohen> anyonw know if backports is going to stop making mozilla & mozilla-firefox depend on a backported libgcc1?
[09:27] <Razor-X> Sammi_: mmmmm?
[09:27] <IceDC571> Razor-X: then there
[09:27] <jasoncohen> they shouldn't be backporting important libraries
[09:27] <IceDC571> Razor-X: oops forget that
[09:27] <Sammi_> That seemed random.
[09:27] <MidNightRaVeN> *sigh* so lol has anyone figured out how i can get my DVD's to play in ubuntu =D =D ??
[09:27] <Razor-X> Sammi_: didn't want to loose you in the channel ;)
[09:27] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: why are you using backports for firefox?  The one in hoary is current
[09:27] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: did you try vlc?
[09:27] <Madpilot> reka: he's always been a gadget freak. PCs are just another gadget!
[09:27] <Razor-X> !vlc
[09:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[09:27] <Razor-X> !info vlc
[09:27] <IceDC571> oh i love whorey
[09:27] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[09:27] <Sammi_> Razor: I was reading the Ubuntu page.
[09:27] <Razor-X> there you go
[09:27] <grphx> How do I tell when alien is done?
[09:27] <Razor-X> Sammi_: ahhh, I see
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> grphx: when you see your command prompt again
[09:28] <Razor-X> if you choose to install, I can walk you through the steps
[09:28] <freddy_> damn
[09:28] <Madpilot> IceDC571: it's spelled "Hoary", actually... :)
[09:28] <Razor-X> and help getting it all customized
[09:28] <freddy_> is messenger down?
[09:28] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: i think that's the last one i have to try.... where can i get the repository address so i can get it?
[09:28] <qt2> easiest way to install azureus on ubuntu...?
[09:28] <Razor-X> Madpilot: I think that was an _intentional_ misprint
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[09:28] <ubotu> sources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:28] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: if you have universe and multiverse added, then it sohuld be fine
[09:28] <Razor-X> *should
[09:28] <MidNightRaVeN> =/ i searched it and couldn't find anything in synaptic
[09:28] <Madpilot> Razor-X: heh. not really deserved, unless I'm missing something...
[09:29] <Razor-X> no, not deserved at all
[09:29] <IceDC571> hmm.. its not even playing my renamed aac files
[09:29] <IceDC571> something is fishy
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: Hoary just means gray, and has nothing to do with animal prostitution.  No matter how hot that may sound
[09:29] <freddy_> is messenger down ppl?
[09:29] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: XD
[09:29] <IceDC571> freddy_: what messenger?
[09:29] <Heimdall> HappyFool : there is no way to boot something without starting an installation process
[09:29] <Razor-X> freddy_: which messenger?
[09:29] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: =/ i searched it and couldn't find anything in synaptic
[09:29] <```bulldogg> okay to make sure......... you do a ./configure then a make then a make install and then you are done correct?
[09:29] <freddy_> the network of microsoft messenger
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> msn messenger
[09:29] <IceDC571> freddy_: not to me
[09:29] <freddy_> yeah
[09:29] <Razor-X> Jabber, yahoo, MSN, ICQ, AIM, which one?
[09:30] <Razor-X> (and yes, I use 'em all ;)
[09:30] <IceDC571> Razor-X: too late ;)
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> hmm, it's down for me though
[09:30] <DekaPink> Damn it damn it damn it.
[09:30] <DekaPink> I can't get on MSN at all >.<
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> yes, messenger is down
[09:30] <```bulldogg> just want to make sure I have all the steps
[09:30] <reka> ```bulldogg: yes, but you might want to use checkinstall instead
[09:30] <Razor-X> what's the generic sources.list file again?
[09:30] <freddy_> thanks :D
[09:30] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, yes- that's generally what you have to do
[09:30] <IceDC571> Razor-X: whats your msn messenger email? i could use another friend since i only have like 2 people who use it
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[09:30] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it'll first ask for partitioning etc info
[09:30] <Razor-X> Sammi_: then you'll love gAIM (if you don't use it already) or if you want to go CLI, nAIM is nice
[09:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it won't install right away
[09:30] <Heimdall> HappyFool : maybe I can type the correct command on the gub prompt
[09:30] <Razor-X> there you are
[09:30] <grphx> I guess it starts to set it up then gives me the command prompt again
[09:30] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: use that link
[09:30] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, there's also a package called checkinstall which will allow you to make deb packages. this way you can keep track of the source packages you install
[09:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: no, you can't do filename manipulation from grub
[09:31] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: it'll have the right sources there =D ?
[09:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes but I can boot no ?
[09:31] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: yeah
[09:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : kernel /boot/vmlinuz etc....
[09:31] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: kk!
[09:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah
[09:31] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, instead of doing make install you would do checkinstall -D and give the package a name & description. it can then be removed using apt-get remove package and upgraded later by upping the version
[09:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, i guess
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: what about centericq?
[09:31] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: never used it meself
[09:31] <jasoncohen> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[09:31] <MidNightRaVeN> i love ubuntu and linux... but sometimes it is a true pain to get going.... it's worth it though lo
[09:31] <pix3l> hi
[09:32] <MidNightRaVeN> lol*
[09:32] <Razor-X> I know of nAIM and pork (CLI clients, I mean{
[09:32] <Heimdall> HappyFool could you past me your command to see what it looks like ?
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: it's a textmode, yet pretty graphical multiprotocol messenger
[09:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, stand by
[09:32] <Heimdall> thanks
[09:32] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: gets easier over time
[09:32] <jasoncohen> ```bulldogg, for most purposes ./configure && make && make install is sufficient
[09:32] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: curses?
[09:32] <grphx> Hm apparently it's installed but I can't find it
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> !info centericq
[09:32] <ubotu> centericq: (A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 4.13.0-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1261 kB, Installed size: 3276 kB
[09:32] <Razor-X> grphx: sudo updatedb
[09:32] <Razor-X> then locate the file
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: uh, probably
[09:32] <Razor-X> simple azzat
[09:32] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: i know... but i think having a 64 might be making it a little more difficult lol
[09:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, there are three commands
[09:32] <Heimdall> yeah
[09:33] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: ahhh, I see
[09:33] <Heimdall> the longer one
[09:33] <Heimdall> :)
[09:33] <Heimdall> kernel ....
[09:33] <reka> grphx: try typing cinerella :)
[09:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok. you know what your root partition etc is?
[09:33] <HappyFool> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[09:33] <Heimdall> it is /dev/hda3 on (hd0,2)
[09:33] <HappyFool> and alsothis:      initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[09:33] <Razor-X> (hd0,2) == /dev/hda3
[09:34] <grphx> That worked
[09:34] <grphx> But it wasn't in my Applications dropdown
[09:34] <Heimdall> ok I have to add vga=777 pci=noacpi remember ?
[09:34] <```bulldogg> okay can I message someone in private about copying dvds?
[09:34] <Razor-X> grphx: doesen't matter
[09:34] <Razor-X> things don't always get added to the menus
[09:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i remember you had acpi stuff, yeah
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: why private?  Read restricted, and use k3b
[09:34] <Sunrex> ok i have a clean install
[09:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i think you can just tack that on the end
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[09:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:34] <Sunrex> what do i install now to get sound and video up
[09:35] <Sunrex> along with music
[09:35] <Razor-X> sound should already be up
[09:35] <mask2323> fr
[09:35] <Razor-X> Sammi_: you still here?
[09:35] <Heimdall> HappyFool well for two days now, the acpi stuff does not work, thats the reason I changed the menu.lst file
[09:35] <Sammi_> How easy is it to alter the layout of the GUI of Ubuntu?
[09:35] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: you should be able to run totem right now and play something in it
[09:35] <Razor-X> Sammi_: that depends on the GUI of choice, really
[09:35] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: you can do anything
[09:35] <tiglionabbit> oops, meant that for sammi
[09:35] <Razor-X> KDE looks nice, and is configureable without much text editing
[09:36] <Razor-X> Gnome doesen't look as nice, and is also configureable without much text editing
[09:36] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, if you have backports & extras, it's as easy as sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 totem totem-xine gstreamer-plugins w32codecs libdvdcss2
[09:36] <Sunrex> KDE were do i get it
[09:36] <Razor-X> you have miscellaneous window managers there that server different purposes
[09:36] <jasoncohen> that should about cover it. you'll need multiverse & universe as well
[09:36] <Razor-X> Sunrex: it's Kubuntu
[09:36] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: wait, tell him to get the right build of mplayer
[09:36] <Sunrex> is that better the gnome
[09:36] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: and he'll have totem already
[09:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[09:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what changes?
[09:36] <Razor-X> Sunrex: it's a choice of personal preference
[09:36] <jasoncohen> ah, yeah- use the version for your system
[09:36] <HappyFool> changed, even
[09:36] <xinel> think i will try enlightenment
[09:37] <```bulldogg> hmmm
[09:37] <reka> Razor-X: er, kubuntu is a distro
[09:37] <Razor-X> xinel: nice ;)
[09:37] <Sunrex> i want somthing easy to use
[09:37] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, but he'll want totem-xine- it's better than totem-gstreamer
[09:37] <xinel> new install on ma other machine
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: yes
[09:37] <Razor-X> reka: try, I'm relating it to him using something static
[09:37] <Razor-X> *true
[09:37] <xinel> sandboxen :P
[09:37] <jasoncohen> also add xine-ui to that list
[09:37] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I don't know it seems pci=noacpi was removed
[09:37] <jasoncohen> xine-ui is great for DVDs i think
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: why not gxine?
[09:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh
[09:37] <Heimdall> HappyFool : since I had the same mistake I had before
[09:37] <grphx> I guess you have to install something for firewire to work with linux?
[09:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes, you need to add it higher up in menu.lst, so that it is included every time there's a kernel update
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> vlc is a nice addition too, and beep-media-player
[09:37] <Sunrex> whats the easyist lunix OS anyway..
[09:37] <Razor-X> grphx: not sure there, this machine only has USB 1.1 ;)
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: this one
[09:38] <Fikrann> Hey guys.. what may cause this: when I run shell script stored in a user mounted disk, I get following error: bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Access denied. The disk has its fstab entry, and its xfs..
[09:38] <Sunrex> btw totem wont play DVD
[09:38] <Razor-X> Sunrex: Ubuntu ;)
[09:38] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Ubuntu is great for newbs :D
[09:38] <Sunrex> yea..
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: read restricted
[09:38] <Heimdall> HappyFool what .?
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[09:38] <Razor-X> Tsar_vonHumbug: and non-n00bs too
[09:38] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <Sunrex> ?
[09:38] <Razor-X> because it's non-bloated
[09:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: let me know when you've booted and I'll tell you where (kopt= line near the top)
[09:38] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, i prefer the interface on xine-ui- it also has more features
[09:38] <Heimdall> oki
[09:38] <xinel> just installed gentoo and used it for a few weeks and its just a pain
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: you mean more buttons that do nothing
[09:38] <Sunrex> how do i install it
[09:38] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, yes it will if you have libdvdcss2 installed
[09:38] <xinel> back to ubuntu
[09:38] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Razor-X, ;)
[09:38] <Heimdall> i'll type what you told me
[09:38] <xinel> :)
[09:38] <Sunrex> well were do i get that?
[09:39] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, no, i mean i find it more attractive and it's easier to control menus, subtitles, and advanced settings + i like the keyboard mappings and they're configurable
[09:39] <Razor-X> errr *cough* I didn't say that.....
[09:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you may need a      'root         (hd0,2)'   line as well, i'm not sure
[09:39] <Razor-X> wrong channel >_<
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> !info libdvdcss2
[09:39] <Razor-X> (needs to remember C-x o)
[09:39] <Sunrex> ..firefox wont start
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> okay, it's in backports
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[09:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: really?  why not?  (run it from a terminal)
[09:39] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: which vlc should i use??
[09:39] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, you need to add hoary-extras to get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs- the latter has support for divx/xvid, windows media video, quicktime, realplayer
[09:39] <IceDC571> someone didnt package xmms-mp4 correctly, i've tested it thoroughly
[09:39] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: what are the choices?
[09:40] <Razor-X> vlc does it for most
[09:40] <Sunrex> *sigh* whats the easyist one...hoary or gnome..
[09:40] <Razor-X> plain vlc
[09:40] <Sunrex> and were do i get Hoarty
[09:40] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Sunrex, dl an install iso from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror/document_view
[09:40] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add this line - "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted". then "sudo apt-get update"
[09:40] <Razor-X> Sunrex: gnome is a window manager, hoary is a version
[09:40] <Sunrex> ?..
[09:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : wow good it seems to work ... it is booting
[09:40] <Madpilot> Sunrex: if you're running the current version of Ubuntu, that's Hoary.
[09:40] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, also make sure all the lines that start with deb have have the # removed
[09:40] <MidNightRaVeN> gnome-vlc, gvlc, kvlc, libvlc0-dev, qvlc, etc. etc.
[09:40] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: you are using hoary and gnome at the same time right now
[09:41] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: just normal vlc
[09:41] <Sunrex> the one with Ubuntu for the background?
[09:41] <MidNightRaVeN> kk lol i'm guessing that means the one that says just "vlc"
[09:41] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories for an example of what it will look like - minus backports
[09:41] <tiglionabbit> Sunrex: Hoary is the name of the version of ubuntu, and Gnome is the name of the desktop environment you're using
[09:41] <MidNightRaVeN> i really hope vlc works...
[09:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : good news I'm under gnome !
[09:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good stuff
[09:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, rename menu.lst first ;)
[09:42] <MidNightRaVeN> what is Hoary anyway?? like literally?
[09:42] <jasoncohen> Sunrex, you can also do all this graphically with synaptic by going to preferences > repositories and adding a custom source with the line i gave you
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: it means gray
[09:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and near the top, you should see a line like this '#kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro
[09:42] <jasoncohen> you then could select the "show disabled repositories" and enable all the disabled ones
[09:42] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: o, in what language?
[09:42] <jasoncohen> and then reload
[09:42] <Madpilot> "Gray Hedgehog"...
[09:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: add your vga=777 pci=noapci line to that
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> http://merriamwebster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoary&x=0&y=0
[09:42] <Heimdall_linux> lol
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: english
[09:43] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, I'm here :)
[09:43] <poningru> I had a question
[09:43] <poningru> why arent dpkg double click installable?
[09:43] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: lol huh... never heard of it in any of my English classes...
[09:43] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: ah-ha
[09:43] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: you see what i said about kopt?
[09:43] <Heimdall> yes on this computer
[09:43] <Heimdall> lol
[09:43] <Heimdall> but it is not in the same room lol
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: ever read Romeo and Juliet?  They make a joke about it
[09:44] <Heimdall_linux> ok
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> (Romeo's friends do I mean)
[09:44] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: i'll have to reread it cuz i don't remember that in depth
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> k
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> well you'll notice the hoary part then
[09:45] <MidNightRaVeN> i just read it like two weeks ago too
[09:45] <MidNightRaVeN> is there anyway to turn totem off so it doesn't try and autoplay my dvds?
[09:45] <grphx> So is there no good video editing software for linux?
[09:45] <Madpilot> "That even from the hoary head unto the witless child" <-- Shakespeare...
[09:45] <IceDC571> hmm... i dont think apt-file is working for me, how do i use it?
[09:45] <Razor-X> 'Juliet your love hath made me effemiate. And in my temper softened valor' steel"
[09:45] <Madpilot> google rocks, so does inline find
[09:45] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[09:46] <Sammi_> Google is god.
[09:46] <Razor-X> that's the only non-cliched line of Romeo and Juliet I remember by heart ;)
[09:46] <Razor-X> Sammi_: amen to that
[09:46] <MidNightRaVeN> funny how you put god in undercase ;-)
[09:46] <Sunrex> WTF I CANT OPEN FIREFOX
[09:46] <xinel> dude caps
[09:46] <Sammi_> Okay, Google is God.
[09:46] <eskaypey> how do i make cd rom icon to not display on desktop when mounted??
[09:46] <Sammi_> ^^
[09:46] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[09:46] <Madpilot> there's more than one god. there's only one Google...
[09:46] <Razor-X> Sunrex: no caps, please
[09:46] <Sunrex> Razor-X: sorry
[09:46] <IceDC571> i do apt-file search blahblah.file and it returns nothing
[09:46] <Razor-X> Madpilot: XD
[09:46] <Madpilot> eskaypey: I think you're stuck with it
[09:46] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, kopt line is after a '#' it is a comment no ?
[09:47] <Razor-X> IceDC571: apt-cache search
[09:47] <IceDC571> oh
[09:47] <Razor-X> or, start using aptitude ;)
[09:47] <eskaypey> ahhh thats not good
[09:47] <eskaypey> any other thoughts??
[09:47] <IceDC571> yes, i always use aptitude over apt-get
[09:47] <MidNightRaVeN> so lol anyone know how to turn autoplay off in totem? i couldn't find it in preferences...
[09:47] <Razor-X> then aptitude search
[09:47] <deFrysk> eskaypey, gnome-control-center
[09:47] <xinel> Sunrex, do a ctrl alt backspace it will restart gnome and try to use firefox again
[09:47] <The_Vox> eskaypey: Control Panel/Desktop/Behaviour/Device Icons
[09:47] <deFrysk> eskaypey, removable drives and media
[09:47] <The_Vox> eskaypey: disable Show device icons:
[09:48] <deFrysk> eskaypey, check the settings
[09:48] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: you really don't like VLC do you? ;)
[09:48] <The_Vox> eskaypey: or whichever individual ones you don't want
[09:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: yeah
[09:48] <reka> anyone know of a file splitter/joiner for linux?
[09:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: i think update-grub uses it, not grub
[09:48] <Heimdall_linux> so it won't change anything if I put pci=noacpi
[09:48] <The_Vox> MidNightRaVeN: it's somewhere in Control Panel too, but I can't remember where
[09:48] <Heimdall_linux> ah oki
[09:48] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X: lol i haven't got to try it yet cuz i wanna disable Totem first =D i just don't know how to...
[09:48] <deFrysk> eskaypey, or dont put a cd in your drive
[09:48] <Razor-X> reka: HJSplit, IIRC
[09:48] <The_Vox> Razor-X: are you a vlc developer? :)
[09:48] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: you don't have to
[09:49] <xinel> gawd i love my kvm switch
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: disable totem?  What?
[09:49] <MidNightRaVeN> Razor-X, =/ i dont?
[09:49] <Razor-X> The_Vox: no, a friend of the developer's friend XD
[09:49] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, do you meant that because of a kernel update I had my grub file modified ?
[09:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: yip
[09:49] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: of course not
[09:49] <The_Vox> Razor-X: lol! figures :)
[09:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: it needed to point at the new kernel image
[09:49] <Heimdall_linux> and it didn't write pci=noacpi
[09:49] <reka> Razor-X: yeah, i think it's w32 only
[09:49] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: cuz when i put a DVD in... it stalls Totem
[09:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: exactly
[09:49] <MidNightRaVeN> makes me very angry inside
[09:49] <eskaypey> The_Vox: where the hell is Control Panel
[09:49] <tyler> *twitches*
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: wait...  you men when you put a dvd in, it launches totem?
[09:49] <tyler> is there a good install program that gives me a good ubuntu..
[09:50] <The_Vox> eskaypey: uhm...wait...you on kde or gnome?
[09:50] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: yea...
[09:50] <eskaypey> gnome
[09:50] <Heimdall_linux> and grub-update was used during this update, and should be able to write pci=noaci if I write it juste in the #kopt line
[09:50] <xinel> tyler: its called ubuntu
[09:50] <xinel> :P
[09:50] <tyler> couse no matter what i do whenever i try to install this one its always glitchs
[09:50] <The_Vox> eskaypey: oops :) What I gave you was for KDE :) I have no clue how to disable that stuff in gnome :)
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: funky...   Anyway, you should be able to get the codecs to make totem play your dvds right
[09:50] <xinel> tyler: glitches how?
[09:50] <reka> MidNightRaVeN: sys > admin > removable
[09:50] <eskaypey> The_Vox: its k thanks
[09:50] <deFrysk> eskaypey, what I said earlyer
[09:50] <Madpilot> tyler: check md5sum on your downloaded ISO?
[09:51] <tyler> first...firefox wont open...second i dont got ANY sound...third a few other things
[09:51] <deFrysk> eskaypey, gnome-control-center
[09:51] <eskaypey> deFrysk: ok hang on a sec
[09:51] <tyler> how
[09:51] <Razor-X> codecs... *ewwww>
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: what?
[09:51] <Razor-X> I remember codecs from my Windows days ;)
[09:51] <Razor-X> bad bad stuff
[09:51] <MidNightRaVeN> tiglionabbit: i know... i tried and it would still stall.... =/ and xine always said audio_decoder error
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: okay, packages, off apt
[09:51] <reka> Razor-X: ah! found out hjsplit is linux compatible too.  thanks
[09:51] <MidNightRaVeN> reka: what does that do? remove totem?
[09:51] <xinel> tyler, have u done an apt-get update => apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:51] <Razor-X> VLC totally avoids codec hell, that's why I like it too
[09:51] <tyler> yea,,,but the good thing with windows is everything ran fine right when u installed it
[09:51] <Razor-X> reka: see!
[09:51] <tyler> yes i think
[09:52] <tyler> i did the get update
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: yeah but..  how do I make vlc play proprietary stuff?
[09:52] <tyler> not dist
[09:52] <Razor-X> my VLC plays it fine
[09:52] <eskaypey> deFrysk: what settings do i need to check?
[09:52] <Razor-X> not sure why yours doesen't
[09:52] <Razor-X> at least, most stuff
[09:52] <reka> MidNightRaVeN: you can disable it from starting autmatically when a dvd is inserted
[09:52] <Razor-X> if not, you can find more plugins for VLC, or compile in the support
[09:52] <deFrysk> removable drives and media
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: is that so?  Mine crashes
[09:52] <eskaypey> deFrysk: i want it to mount just not on desktop
[09:52] <xinel> tyler, is there a red icon on the top right hand side of your gnome desktop?
[09:52] <tyler> yes
[09:53] <Heimdall_linux> well, again thx a lot HappyFool  :)
[09:53] <xinel> tyler, means u can do some more updates
[09:53] <xinel> might solve ur problems
[09:53] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, you're my linux master !
[09:53] <xinel> might not
[09:53] <MidNightRaVeN> reka: hmmm =/ where is Removable?? I can't find it in Sys > Admin...
[09:53] <tyler> it wont
[09:53] <tyler> i just reinstalled Ubuntu
[09:53] <deFrysk> eskaypey, might be tricky
[09:53] <tyler> couse i had 0 sound
[09:53] <xinel> ah i c
[09:54] <tyler> and the DVD playback went fuzzy...like a TV
[09:54] <xinel> well then have u installed the 686 kernel?
[09:54] <tyler> no
[09:54] <eskaypey> deFrysk: k
[09:54] <reka> MidNightRaVeN: whoops...sys > prefs
[09:54] <Madpilot> MidNightRaVeN: System --> Pref
[09:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: heh ;) glad to help
[09:54] <Razor-X> xinel: the 686 kernel is only a speed-boost for i686 machines
[09:54] <tyler> is that any good Xinel?
[09:54] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, well now I gotta buy some ram !!!!
[09:54] <xinel> Razor-X, whats the bet he's got a 686 machine
[09:54] <xinel> :P
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: When I try to play some quicktime stuff, VLC crashes and says "Floating point exception"
[09:55] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, my linux takes a LOT of memory, it remains only 5Mo .......
[09:55] <MidNightRaVeN> reka madpilot: thx!
[09:55] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: have you googled the errors?
[09:55] <Fikrann> Heimdall, don't worry, it's mostly disk cache.
[09:56] <Belutz> Fikrann: hai again
[09:56] <Fikrann> er, I meant Heimdall_linux
[09:56] <umar> i m using postgresql as my database server in ubuntu can someone tell me some interface design language matching Visual Basic
[09:56] <Fikrann> Belutz, Hello
[09:56] <MidNightRaVeN> do i have to have libdvdcss2 to be able to play dvds?
[09:56] <xinel> tyler, have a read of this mate http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:56] <Belutz> Fikrann: can i install ubuntu from the livecd ?
[09:56] <Razor-X> umar: tcl/tk
[09:56] <Heimdall_linux> Fikrann, ?
[09:56] <xinel> it should answer/help u with most of ur probs
[09:56] <Razor-X> err.. it's not visual
[09:56] <Razor-X> but creates widgets
[09:56] <Fikrann> umar, Learn Python }:>
[09:56] <tyler> i cant
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I don't see anything useful...
[09:57] <Razor-X> there really are no visual languages in Linux, visual languages suck
[09:57] <tyler> Xinel: i cant Firefox doesnt start up
[09:57] <MidNightRaVeN> do i have to have libdvdcss2 to be able to play dvds?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> what are visual languages?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: it helps, go get it
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[09:57] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> add a mirror from backports
[09:57] <MidNightRaVeN> awww.... back ports...
[09:57] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[09:57] <tyler> ah repaired..
[09:57] <Madpilot> is there a "Search for Files" function built into Nautilus? If there is, where's it hiding?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: be sure to comment it out when you're done
[09:57] <umar> how can i start tcl/tk or python to design interface in ubuntu
[09:58] <MidNightRaVeN> kk =)
[09:58] <Fikrann> Heimdall_linux, most of the memory used by linux are disk caches, to speed up the system. Unless you have very little memory (as in 64MB) you don't have to worry about having virtually zero ram free.
[09:58] <umar> r they already installed or i need to install them/.
[09:58] <umar> ?
[09:58] <Razor-X> umar: they aren't visual languages
[09:58] <MidNightRaVeN> ahhhhh.... linux.... so comfortable
[09:58] <xinel> tyler, open up a terminal window and type "sudo" then ur password
[09:58] <Razor-X> you can't use the mouse to make boxes, or anything like that
[09:58] <Razor-X> MidNightRaVeN: hah
[09:58] <Razor-X> Visual Basic is a crap language anywho
[09:58] <tyler> Xinel:its fixed now i had to do updates
[09:58] <xinel> tyler, nice
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: what exactly defines a "visual language"
[09:59] <xinel> take a look at that webby i posted its very good
[09:59] <Fikrann> Heimdall_linux, even if you had 10GB of ram, after some time it'd be all used up anyway; linux policy is that unused ram is wasted ram.
[09:59] <tyler> Xinel:were are the screen shots for Hoary?
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I thought it was just the IDE
[09:59] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: i'm using his own term, one where you can use the mouse to create programs
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> o.o
[09:59] <Fikrann> Most visual * languages are crap.
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> what, like rpgmaker?
[09:59] <Razor-X> nopes, Visual Basic is actually layed out visually, using the mouse
[09:59] <Razor-X> wors
[09:59] <Razor-X> *worse
[09:59] <Razor-X> even less coding required
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: REALLY?  zomg
[09:59] <unome> how to forward root mail to a regular user?
[09:59] <xinel> tyler, there are sometimes screenshots at www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:59] <MidNightRaVeN> you know what linux is as good as? some old school jazz lol
[10:00] <Heimdall_linux> Fikrann, yes maybe but you know, I have 2*128Mo on my laptop, and I see that it is very slow....
[10:00] <xinel> tyler, u can also do a google search for some
[10:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: ever used LabView?
[10:00] <Razor-X> HappyFool: nopes
[10:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: in that you 'draw' for loops
[10:00] <Razor-X> HappyFool: odd....
[10:00] <Razor-X> is the language useful?
[10:00] <Heimdall_linux> Fikrann, so maybe if I had just a little more i should be much better
[10:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: well, it's mostly for connecting systems/signals
[10:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: in which case the drawing paradigm is less strained
[10:00] <Razor-X> ahhh, I see
[10:01] <stisev> ok guys
[10:01] <HappyFool> this was a few years ago, they may have improved that aspect
[10:01] <stisev> someone help me with a non-ubuntu issue
[10:01] <Fikrann> Heimdall_linux, on 256MB you should have no problems running GNOME .. it might be tad little for KDE, though.
[10:01] <stisev> http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PH6VT3-SP
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> stisev: what makes you think it's in our contract to do that?
[10:01] <Razor-X> my programming skills have definitely atrophied, I may pickup Python again...
[10:01] <stisev> tiglionabbit: hear me out =p
[10:01] <stisev> I bought that plug outlet (8) but my plugs aren't fitting. WTF?
[10:02] <stisev> There's these grey barriers inside of the plugs.
[10:02] <stisev> they prevent the plugs from going in
[10:02] <Fikrann> Vive le Python!
[10:02] <xinel> stisev: pull them out
[10:02] <stisev> I can't/
[10:02] <HappyFool> maybe you're supposed to take the grey bits out ;)
[10:02] <Razor-X> I learned Python late though, my second-to-last language
[10:02] <tiglionabbit> stisev: try turning the plugs around so the other prong goes in each slot
[10:02] <stisev> xinel: how?
[10:02] <stisev> tiglionabbit: tried that several times.
[10:02] <HappyFool> or maybe you're supposed to use special plugs, like in a ups setup
[10:02] <Razor-X> over time, most of my languages have left, save QBASIC, because of the sheer programming experience I had wiht it
[10:02] <stisev> HappyFool: o_O
[10:02] <Razor-X> and all the engines I crafted
[10:02] <tiglionabbit> stisev: lol, I thought so
[10:02] <Heimdall_linux> Fikrann, indeed I have gnome, but it is slow for runnig applications, firefox with x-chat and azureus and mercury
[10:02] <Heimdall_linux> and a term
[10:03] <stisev> http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=220
[10:03] <Heimdall_linux> and so it is VERY slow then
[10:03] <stisev> there's the apc site
[10:03] <stisev> APCs new SurgeArrest was designed in response to customer requests for additional safety and convenience features. APC introduced plug-activated safety shutter and cord management to deliver increased security and ease of use, while superior power line and data line surge protection prevents damaging surge and spikes from ever reaching your equipment.
[10:03] <HappyFool> stisev: i don't have a clue really, sorry
[10:03] <Razor-X> *RPG engines
[10:03] <stisev> whoops
[10:03] <stisev> sorry
[10:03] <MidNightRaVeN> *sigh* should the backport source look like this? "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp"
[10:03] <xinel> just mess with them untill u can pull them out
[10:03] <tiglionabbit> Heimdall_linux: how fast is it without azureus?
[10:03] <stisev> "APC introduced plug-activated safety shutter "
[10:03] <stisev> WTF?
[10:03] <MidNightRaVeN> cuz it's not working and i dunno what i'm missing =(
[10:03] <jeroen_> MidNightRaVeN: no, read their site for mirrors
[10:03] <Belutz> Heimdall_linux: what's software is mercury?
[10:03] <jeroen_> !backports
[10:03] <ubotu> from memory, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:03] <Fikrann> Heimdall_linux, blame azureus, then.
[10:03] <Heimdall_linux> tiglionabbit, no no it is not my connexion :)
[10:03] <gm78> MidNightRaVeN, did u get ur nvidia card up and running?
[10:03] <HappyFool> stisev: can't you go to the place you bought them? Or phone APC?
[10:03] <IceDC571> /bin/sh: ../libtool: No such file or directory
[10:03] <IceDC571> grr.. i hate compiling
[10:03] <newbie> any one know about a good file sharing /transfer program with graphical interface
[10:03] <Heimdall_linux> maybe it is mercury
[10:04] <Razor-X> IceDC571: XD
[10:04] <Heimdall_linux> it is a java software
[10:04] <tiglionabbit> Heimdall_linux: no, what I mean is, azureus is java crap and it always slugs my computer up
[10:04] <stisev> stisev: Dell - lol @ phoning.
[10:04] <IceDC571> yeah and libtool is installed of course
[10:04] <Belutz> ow...
[10:04] <Razor-X> libtool-dev?
[10:04] <gm78> newbie, limewire is good, u need to have java installed to use it tho
[10:04] <Heimdall_linux> ah azureus too
[10:04] <xinel> newbie: azureus
[10:04] <Belutz> :D
[10:04] <stisev> er HappyFool: lol. I feel really dumb. ;)
[10:04] <MidNightRaVeN> gm78: hey! not really lol cuz i've been doing all sorts of crazy stuff.... you think you can help me get it up or is it pretty simple?
[10:04] <IceDC571> Razor-X: omg.. stupid mistake, why didnt i think of that?
[10:04] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: but it's the only thing that gets nice speed with torrents, for me
[10:04] <stisev> HappyFool: Duhhhhhhhhh..my plugs won't fit! :p
[10:04] <tiglionabbit> newbie: gtk-gnutella
[10:04] <HappyFool> IceDC571: you'd installed build-essential, at least? Not sure about libtool
[10:04] <HappyFool> stisev: heh. well, you asked us :P
[10:04] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: tried bittornado?
[10:04] <Heimdall_linux> well it won't be bad to had memory no ??? :-D
[10:04] <stisev> heeh
[10:04] <tyler> right..
[10:04] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: yeah
[10:04] <gm78> MidNightRaVeN, i should be able to...what happened yesterday, all of the sudden the connection was all weird, i think the problem may have been on my end but im not sure
[10:04] <MidNightRaVeN> gm78: and sorry i just disappeared last night but my DSL went capoot
[10:04] <tyler> can you give me the link to all the extra downloads
[10:05] <Razor-X> I get 2 k/s for reasons I can't comprehend
[10:05] <IceDC571> Razor-X: lol there isnt a libtool-dev
[10:05] <Razor-X> while Azureus gives me a steady 100
[10:05] <gm78> MidNightRaVeN, oh, never mind then lol
[10:05] <newbie> gm78 xubek tuguibabbut thanx i need to transfer files between to specific pcs though not to search and download
[10:05] <Razor-X> *110
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: really?  Okay, maybe it's just something about java on my computer then, because i seriously can't run azureus.  It always screws up
[10:05] <Razor-X> IceDC571: time to compile a lib XD
[10:05] <MidNightRaVeN> gm78: yea lol it was my crap DSL... sorry
[10:05] <gm78> newbie, what OS' are the systems running
[10:05] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: same here
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: especially in windows
[10:05] <Razor-X> I heard the newer version fixed it, there is a fix
[10:05] <gm78> MidNightRaVeN, oh, no prob, my cable connection is pretty bad somedays
[10:05] <newbie> gm78 one linux the other window
[10:05] <Razor-X> it's RAM, actually, that's why
[10:05] <greg> i can't boot into my fresh installed upuntu ppc, got a kernel panic; pivo_root: no such file...
[10:05] <tyler> how do i get real player 10?
[10:05] <stisev> ^^^^^ ???
[10:05] <stisev> Why would you WANT real player?
[10:06] <liz4rd> lol
[10:06] <xinel> tyler, that site i posted answers that :P
[10:06] <tyler> lol
[10:06] <gm78> newbie, ull want to set up samba, it lets u share the files like u would between two windows pcs
[10:06] <tiglionabbit> you don't need realplayer, get totem-xine instead
[10:06] <jeroen_> stisev: you don't, it's non-free binary-only :/
[10:06] <Razor-X> last 2 milestones were very ineffecient
[10:06] <MidNightRaVeN> gm78: do you think i don't have the nvidia card updated that could be why dvds won't play?
[10:06] <HappyFool> IceDC571: try installing 'libtool'
[10:06] <tyler> ,,*sigh* great that was before i had to restart
[10:06] <xinel> bbl
[10:06] <Razor-X> HappyFool: for compilation, you need the dev package as well
[10:06] <MidNightRaVeN> gm78: think since i dont*
[10:06] <IceDC571> yeah its trying to find /bin/libtool but it isnt there, so im thinking of searching an doing a little ln -s hopefully
[10:06] <gm78> MidNightRaVeN, lol, could be lots of things...open a private chat with me again so u can post ur xorg.conf file
[10:07] <newbie> gm78 and i can use it over the internet i used to use ssh but my friend on the windows os do not like it
[10:07] <tyler> Tiglionabbit:were do i get the totem-xine
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> tyler: run synaptic, and get it
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> !totem-xine
[10:07] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I haven't a clue
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> oops
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> !info totem-xine
[10:07] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[10:07] <gm78> newbie, windows pcs, when u set up a network, use the smb network protocol, samba is that implemented on linux
[10:07] <GNULinuxer> is there any handy utility to monitor traffic on my eth0 ?
[10:07] <tyler> ,,but were do i get it,,
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> ah, it's universe.  You'll need to read the repositories thing
[10:07] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i think libtool is different
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:08] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:08] <IceDC571> ahah.. ln -s /bin/libtool /usr/bin/libtool :)
[10:08] <greg> GNULinuxer: iptraf, iftop, ntop ...
[10:08] <tyler> mmm how do you install PHP?
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> tyler: does that explain it to you?  When you add the proper repositories, synaptic will be able to find the package if you search it
[10:08] <GNULinuxer> greg: i just need it to monitor how much data is downloaded over eth0
[10:08] <newbie> gm78 so i can set one folder on my linux machine to share through samba and my friend can log on to it right
[10:08] <Madpilot> tyler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[10:09] <freddy> so
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> !info php4
[10:09] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[10:09] <greg> GNULinuxer: ifconfig, but the counters tend to overflow quite often
[10:09] <freddy> if i insert a cdrom...i should see it on the desktop automatically...right?
[10:09] <Madpilot> tyler: that'll get you Apache, MySQL & PHP
[10:09] <jeroen_> freddy: yep, if there's anything on it
[10:09] <freddy> well, its not working
[10:09] <GNULinuxer> greg: it should save history ...
[10:09] <freddy> :(
[10:09] <freddy> its not doing anything
[10:10] <tyler> is Apache 2 easy to install
[10:11] <Madpilot> tyler: it is thru Synaptic. (or apt-get...) check that URL I just posted
[10:11] <tyler> i mean to install lol
[10:11] <greg> GNULinuxer: you could combine rrdtool and a little bit of shell scripting
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> !synaptic
[10:11] <ubotu> [synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:12] <gm78> newbie yep, thatll work
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> tyler: synaptic is a wonderful program that gets software and installs it for you
[10:12] <tyler> !sambar
[10:12] <GNULinuxer> greg: I am looking at cacti ... but even after installing it, i don't see any graphs
[10:12] <ubotu> I don't know, tyler
[10:12] <IceDC571> how do i know which makefile i'm making from
[10:12] <Whistler> can anybody explain netcat syntax to me?
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: specify it to make, there's an option for that
[10:13] <greg> GNULinux: have you RTFM ?
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: make -f themakefile
[10:13] <egi> !info netcat
[10:13] <ubotu> netcat: (TCP/IP swiss army knife), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10-27 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[10:14] <Madpilot> !samba
[10:14] <ubotu> I guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:14] <Madpilot> tyler: spelling counts... ;)
[10:14] <rage> Please forgive my ignorance but does Ubuntu use x.org or XFree86?
[10:14] <GNULinuxer> rage: xorg
[10:14] <rage> Thanks :-)
[10:14] <xinel> rage: nothing to be sorry about dude
[10:15] <amonkey> what linux software can i use to take the audio out of a video and mp3 it?
[10:15] <IceDC571> omg i got it to make i got it to make i got it to make!!!!!!!!! :)
[10:15] <HappyFool> amonkey: i would guess mplayer (or mencoder?)
[10:15] <```bulldogg> man this thing is pissing me off........... everything I try to install it says it has unresolved deps.. and I try to resolve those and I get more unresolved deps
[10:15] <bigfoot1> to fellow Galeon Users: how can i make a smart bookmark for Ubuntu Forums Search?
[10:16] <rage> Well, time to give Ubuntu a try then. :-) Wish me luck
[10:16] <bigfoot1> In other words, what should I have in the "Smart URL" text box?
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: are you using ubuntu, or Red Hat?  Set the repositories right, and you wont have problems
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[10:16] <ubotu> hmm... sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: use this sources.list and you shouldn't have any problems
[10:16] <```bulldogg> okay can you help me do that real quick tiglionabbit ?
[10:17] <tyler> !Abyss
[10:17] <ubotu> tyler: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: sure.  Go to applications -> run application and type in "gksudo gedit" to get the editor to run as admin.  Then open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with that stuff
[10:17] <tyler> !abyss
[10:17] <ubotu> tyler: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:17] <tyler> ..
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> tyler: try !info
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> !info abyss
[10:18] <tyler> !info
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> oh, never mind
[10:18] <HappyFool> heh
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> tyler: ubotu only knows things we put into it
[10:18] <tyler> how do you install Abyss Web Server?
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> tyler: like when I say something like
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu pizza is delicious
[10:18] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> !pizza
[10:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pizza is delicious
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget pizza
[10:18] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot pizza
[10:19] <Madpilot> fun with bots... :)
[10:19] <HappyFool> poor bugger has forgotten the taste of pizza *sniffle*
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> =p
[10:19] <jcoxon> :)
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> !moo
[10:19] <ubotu> I guess moo is apt-get with Super Cow Powers!
[10:19] <Madpilot> just be careful what you tell ubotu...
[10:19] <unome> !biff
[10:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, unome
[10:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[10:20] <Madpilot> is there someone in charge of ubotu? weeding out bad ! entries?
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> wow, no questions have been asked for quite a bit.  It feels quiet
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: well, the admins will clean it every once in a whil
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> e
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> !bush
[10:21] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> aw
[10:21] <```bulldogg> !sources
[10:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> yeah, use those sources and you should be peachy
[10:21] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: do you use backports hoary-extras?
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: I comment it out most of the time, I think
[10:22] <tyler> so anyone here use Abyss Web Server?
[10:22] <```bulldogg> I put it in there says it can't find it
[10:22] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: right. thanks. guess i'll just live with old marillat w32codecs ;)
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: I got w32codecs from backports, yes, as well as libdvdcss2
[10:23] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: too many "it"'s there -- could you be a little more specific ? ;)
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> and java and gstreamer0.8-lame
[10:23] <tyler> does apache have a control panel?
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: okay, so you've completely replaced your sources.list with the thing on that pasteboard, and now which program are you using to download with?
[10:24] <```bulldogg> I put that addy in the source list file and it says it can't find it... and errors
[10:24] <```bulldogg> ohh okay wait a minute lol
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> can't find what?
[10:24] <HappyFool> tyler: try maybe webmin-apache ?
[10:25] <bigfoot1> to galeon users: how can i make mailto links use the web version of gmail?
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: are you using apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic?
[10:25] <unome> ubotu biff is a little program that notifies you with a message that you have mail, but only in virtual terminal. You can turn it off or on any time using biff y or biff n
[10:25] <ubotu> unome: okay
[10:25] <tyler> Happyfool: whats webmin-apache?
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> unome: I thought biff was just a really bad website designer that turned out to be a usenet joke.  Or was that B1FF ?
[10:26] <HappyFool> tyler: "This module allows webmin (a web-based interface for system administration for Unix) to configure almost all Apache directives."
[10:26] <Madpilot> !biff
[10:26] <ubotu> well, biff is a little program that notifies you with a message that you have mail, but only in virtual terminal. You can turn it off or on any time using biff y or biff n
[10:26] <unome> tiglionabbit: biff used to be stantard loaded with Debian
[10:27] <HappyFool> and sys v, probably :P
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> ubotu magicaltrevor is a wizard that everyone loves because his tricks are so clever
[10:27] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[10:27] <arjuna> hallo
[10:27] <tyler> Happyfool:were do i get that
[10:27] <Whistler> can anybody explain netcat syntax to me?
[10:27] <Madpilot> tiglionabbit: ??? :)
[10:27] <HappyFool> tyler: from the standard ubuntu repositories
[10:27] <```bulldogg> tried synaptic
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget magicaltrevor
[10:28] <ubotu> i forgot magicaltrevor, tiglionabbit
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: what, you've never seen http://weebls-stuff.com ?
[10:28] <HappyFool> tyler: you'll need to add the 'universe' repository
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: hit the refresh button on synaptic after you save the file
[10:28] <HappyFool> !repositories
[10:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:28] <HappyFool> !sources
[10:28] <ubotu> methinks sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:28] <bigfoot1> I'm trying to run zynaddsubfx, but i get this message: ERROR: Cannot make a jack client.
[10:28] <bigfoot1> what should i do?
[10:29] <HappyFool> tyler: go and read those two urls -- they'll tell you how to enable the standard repo's
[10:29] <Madpilot> tiglionabbit: is that the badger badger badger guy?
[10:29] <```bulldogg> okay do I replace that file that I downloaded with the one thats there now?
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: yes
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: also known for Kenya, Magical Trevor, and the everyday happenings of Weebl and sometimes Weebl's friend Bob
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libp/libpng3/libpng12-dev_1.2.8rel-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch <-- is there anything I can do about this or do I have to wait for the server to fix this file?
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: delet the "us" in that repository url
[10:30] <HappyFool> ColonelKernel: change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> thank you both
[10:31] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: which file did you download?
[10:31] <Madpilot> tiglionabbit: heh. my education continues... must not get that d*mned song stuck in my head again...
[10:31] <tyler> how do i add pages to apache..
[10:31] <```bulldogg> the post_38.txt
[10:31] <admin0> tyler, you add pages in the directory.
[10:31] <Whistler> can anybody explain netcat syntax to me?
[10:32] <tyler> admin0: but were IS the directory =/
[10:32] <tyler> admin0: apache2?
[10:32] <HappyFool> Whistler: what do you want to know? And what are you trying to do?
[10:32] <admin0> /var/www/html ?
[10:32] <admin0> aah
[10:32] <admin0> look for document root in the conf
[10:32] <```bulldogg> the post_38.txt HappyFool
[10:32] <Whistler> HappyFool i wanna learn how to use netcat i type nc 127.0.0.1:port but it gives me an erros
[10:33] <Whistler> HappyFool i wanna learn how to use netcat i type nc 127.0.0.1:port but it gives me an error
[10:33] <Whistler> so how should i write?
[10:33] <Raskall> Whistler: man netcat
[10:33] <HappyFool> Whistler: try 'nc 127.0.0.1 port'  where port is a number
[10:33] <HappyFool> Whistler: reading the man page would be a good idea
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[10:34] <ubotu> from memory, sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> he means that
[10:34] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: you can just cut-and-paste the stuff from the pastebin into /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:34] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: you are editing that file with gedit, i believe
[10:34] <mik__> hello.. I have a little question about mozilla nightly builds - I had download build:20050708 (Deer Park)- it runs much faster than firefox from Ubuntu. Can somehow install plugins from ubuntu into that browser?
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> !sources blah blah testing ?
[10:34] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[10:34] <```bulldogg> okay are you talking the stuff up in the colored window
[10:35] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: um. the coloured window in your browser?
[10:35] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: get the stuff from the textarea.  You don't want the line numbers included
[10:35] <```bulldogg> okay......... so up in that area but don't take the line numbers with?
[10:35] <mik__> anyone using Deer Park?
[10:35] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: just copy from the textarea below
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[10:35] <```bulldogg> and then erase all those links that are in the file and add these
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: links?  The links are important
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: they are urls where apt can find packages for you.  You better read about apt
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[10:36] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> !synaptic
[10:36] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:36] <ubotu> well, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: that's your homework for today
[10:36] <Hieronymus> !sources
[10:36] <ubotu> somebody said sources was http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:36] <```bulldogg> okay.................so I want to just paste the ones I find on that webpage into that file
[10:37] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: that should work
[10:37] <action09> !woman
[10:37] <ubotu> action09: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:37] <action09> :(
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> !info woman
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> damn
[10:37] <action09> :)
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> apt-get install chicks
[10:37] <deFrysk> tiglionabbit, use sudo ;p
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> !porn-get
[10:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> !porn
[10:38] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Wish i knew
[10:38] <HappyFool> heh
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> hey, where'd my porn entries go
[10:38] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: install proview and stfu
[10:38] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: are you getting anywhere?
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> ubotu porn-get is http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
[10:38] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[10:38] <```bulldogg> I will be right back... on the machine I am working on......................... this is really irritating me......... no it errored out again
[10:39] <Yann2> hi
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: it's not "erroring".  It's telling you useful information which you should learn to understand, by reading the wiki
[10:39] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: maybe one should recommend using synaptic to enable repositories ;)
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: yeah...
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:39] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:39] <Yann2> i got a problem with the backports; i used the two linux given by http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ and I get the following error :
[10:39] <Yann2> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> I've !s everything I can.  Bulldog should start reading crap.  Why'd he leave..
[10:40] <Hieronymus> Yann2: try sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <Hieronymus> see if that fixes it
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> Yann2: you must use a backports mirror, not backports itself
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[10:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> oh wait, that is a mirror, sorry
[10:40] <```bulldogg> okay I am back here is what happened when I did what I thought you said.... here is the errors
[10:40] <HappyFool> maybe the mirror is broken
[10:40] <HappyFool> don't paste here, please
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: it's not "erroring".  It's telling you useful information which you should learn to understand, by reading the wiki
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: and to paste stuff, use a pastebin
[10:41] <```bulldogg> The following problems were found on your system.....................deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <```bulldogg> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <```bulldogg> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <```bulldogg> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <```bulldogg> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> !pastebin
[10:41] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.com or #flood
[10:41] <```bulldogg> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <HappyFool> sigh
[10:41] <Yann2> i get no error with apt-get update
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: WE SAID DON'T PASTE HERE
[10:41] <Yann2> but no package to be updated
[10:41] <```bulldogg> sorry
[10:41] <Yann2> so i think doesn't working either
[10:42] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on a paste-bin?
[10:42] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: if you must paste, use a pastebin
[10:42] <Xyc0> I am compiling gaim-irchelper and getting craploads of errors, anyone know where i can find the packages?
[10:42] <```bulldogg> okay I am not sure what you mean by paste bin
[10:42] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[10:42] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.com or #flood
[10:42] <Whistler> is pascal aviable via apt-get?
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> Xyc0: if it says you do not have something, look on synaptic for what it asks for with the -dev suffix on it.  You need -dev libraries to compile things
[10:43] <Hieronymus> Whistler: try
[10:43] <gm78> Whistler, u can search for programs using synaptic or apt-cache search
[10:43] <Hieronymus> Whistler: apt-cache search pascal or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> hmm, I get nothing from searhcing for pascal, Hieronymus
[10:44] <Xyc0> tiglionabbit: Wow that totaly slipped my mind, thx
[10:44] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: maybe you need to enable universe
[10:44] <Hieronymus> !sources
[10:44] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: i get many hits. 'gpc', for one
[10:44] <ubotu> sources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:44] <Hieronymus> !repositories
[10:44] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: oh whoops, forgot to make it search by description
[10:45] <tyler> how do i put some new pages for my website in the Directory...it wont let me move it there
[10:45] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: so.. problem solved?
[10:45] <```bulldogg> okay I did it
[10:45] <```bulldogg> the paste thing
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: what problem?  It wasn't my question =P
[10:45] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: where? ;)
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: paste the url here
[10:45] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: please give us an url
[10:45] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: sorry, too sleepy still
[10:45] <Yann2> mmmh I don't get error messages any more, but there still is no package to upgrade.... it must still not be working :/
[10:46] <tapo> hi, I am searching for pnet debs (dotGNU) in version 0.7.0. is there a good apt source somewhere?
[10:46] <```bulldogg> I clicked on a url above and then put a message in
[10:46] <```bulldogg> http://pastebin.com/309903
[10:46] <```bulldogg> I hope thats what you want
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> good dog
[10:46] <```bulldogg> man I am really starting to get fustrated
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: could you paste the full error there?  I doubt apt-get gives errors in that format
[10:47] <tyler> how do i move files to my WWW folder?
[10:47] <tyler> it wont let me =/
[10:47] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: can you please also paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin?
[10:47] <Hieronymus> tyler: maybe you don't have write access for it
[10:47] <```bulldogg> okay
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: and if you want to learn linux, it's going to be a little bit of new stuff.  You're going to have to be patient and read a little to get this
[10:47] <tyler> i dont..
[10:47] <tyler> but how do i set it?
[10:47] <Hieronymus> tyler: you could try with (gk)sudo
[10:48] <tyler> ?
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> tyler: it's a shell command.  It's a shame ubuntu doesn't provide a super user file browser option
[10:49] <tyler> lol yes, it is =/
[10:49] <```bulldogg> http://pastebin.com/309904
[10:49] <tyler> so how do i get my files in there
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> tyler: the admins will kill me for saying this, because if you do this too much "bad things will happen", but you could go to applications -> run application and type in "gksudo nautilus".  That would give you the permissions
[10:49] <tyler> LOL
[10:49] <tyler> thks
[10:49] <Xyc0> or you can create a root pwd
[10:50] <Xyc0> and login as root
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> Xyc0: that is far worse
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> Xyc0: quite unadvisable
[10:50] <```bulldogg> well tiglionabbit I am no expert and will never claim to be... but I have run Redhat, Fedora... pretty much the same thing, Suse, Mandrake and never had this kind of trouble
[10:50] <adwait> ppll help me out here.......my net is suddenly very slow....
[10:50] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: ok, this should be easyish to fix
[10:50] <Xyc0> well if we are tempting the linux goda
[10:50] <Whistler> can anybody reccomend file manager same as total cmd for windows?
[10:50] <Xyc0> gods*
[10:50] <adwait> some sites are opening up fine, others are very very slow, ipv6 is disabled
[10:50] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: can you please close synaptic, if you are running it ?
[10:50] <```bulldogg> closed
[10:50] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: and do you still have the gedit session editing sources.list open?
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: once you learn to use synaptic, you will probably find that it is much better than any of those RPM-based distros you've used before
[10:51] <```bulldogg> yes
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: so, did you read all the wikis I wanted you to yet?
[10:51] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: ok, we're going to remove some of the repository lines you have there
[10:51] <```bulldogg> okay
[10:51] <```bulldogg> no tiglionabbit haven't had the chance yet
[10:51] <ColonelKernel> wow - nice distro - everything works from the getgo
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> thats new
[10:52] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: lines 6,7 11,12, 24 and 25  - put '#' at the beginning of those lines
[10:52] <tyler> *bump*
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: well, bookmark them.  They should explain all of this stuff to you, and then you wont need our help
[10:52] <Xyc0> anyone get FBSplash working on ubuntu?
[10:52] <tyler> does this mean PHP is running? <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[10:52] <tyler> lol
[10:52] <```bulldogg> where I have lines of text?
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> tyler: that command will print out all information about your php install in html format
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> is there any way to add the pleasant colors to the bootup process?
[10:52] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: um
[10:53] <tiglionabbit> pleasant colors?
[10:53] <tyler> right...but SOULD it show that on the webiste?
[10:53] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: i don't understand your question. I want you to put a '#' character in at the start of those lines
[10:53] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: i'm using the line numbers shown here: http://pastebin.com/309904
[10:53] <adwait> tiglioabbit: u mean like the function phpinfo()
[10:53] <adwait> ?
[10:53] <```bulldogg> okay so you want a # in front of the sixth line of acutal text and so on
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> adwait: yes, when used in a .php file, in the syntax tyler said
[10:54] <adwait> hmm
[10:54] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: yeah. only the line numbers will be different -- you have added a 'here is the contents of my file' to the pastebin
[10:54] <adwait> if tht function shows up a whole lot of info, php is running
[10:55] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: look here: http://pastebin.com/309907
[10:55] <tiglionabbit> when you view it in firefox, if it's just a blank page you don't have php
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: you understand the concept of commenting, right?  Done any shell scripting?
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: I'd suggest he comment out his cdrom too
[10:56] <```bulldogg> okay now I did that... not very much shell at all... would like to learn how
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> the first line
[10:56] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: you reckon?
[10:56] <```bulldogg> I do understand the commenting thing
[10:56] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: ok, save the file, and restart synaptic
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: it's what I do
[10:56] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: i'm on dial-up. i don't ;)
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: ah, I'm on broadband =P
[10:57] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: you can comment out the cd-rom line too, if you wish. it probably doesn't matter right now
[10:57] <```bulldogg> no that did not work... more of the same
[10:57] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:57] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: ok, close synaptic
[10:57] <```bulldogg> I did
[10:57] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: can you start terminal (Applications -> System tools -> terminal)
[10:57] <jacquesmerde> hey, what happening with a fix for umount/eject? is one still being considered? has one been done?
[10:57] <```bulldogg> sure terminal is open
[10:57] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: now type 'sudo apt-get update' and please paste the output of that command to the paste-bin
[10:57] <adwait> '
[10:58] <HappyFool> one of my keys is squeaky *annoyance*
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: I think it would be best for him to just read the wikis.  He's used linux before.  He should know that it takes a little rtfm-ing.  And the wikis are very friendly anyway
[10:58] <james> hey
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> !rtfm
[10:58] <ubotu> well, rtfm is Read The "Fine" Manual
[10:58] <```bulldogg> its updating
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> hello james
[10:58] <adwait> "Fine"
[10:58] <adwait> :p
[10:59] <```bulldogg> yeah no errors just updated
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> adwait: that's what my CS professor says =P
[10:59] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: ok. maybe synaptic just got confused. after the apt-get update is finished, try synaptic again
[10:59] <james> wot the...........
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: good
[10:59] <adwait> hehehe
[10:59] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: i guess. imo editing text config files can be confusing
[10:59] <```bulldogg> yep it appears to be alright now........ thanks
[10:59] <tyler> were do i get PHPMYADMIN?
[10:59] <adwait> i wonder wht he says FOOBAR means
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: to newbies, yes.  But the wiki covers using synaptic too
[11:00] <Hieronymus> !foobar
[11:00] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Are you smoking crack?
[11:00] <Hieronymus> No I am not, ubotu
[11:00] <Hieronymus> !info foobar
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> adwait: foo bar baz qux are what you call "metasyntactical variable names"
[11:00] <jacquesmerde> sorry to repeal, but what is happening with a fix for umount/eject? is one still being considered? has one been done? if someone can't tell me, can someone tell me how to find out with a project like ubuntu? is there a dev wiki or something? the forums weren't helpful...
[11:00] <Madpilot> !fubar
[11:00] <ubotu> Madpilot: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:00] <IceDC571> who uses foobar2000?
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> jacquesmerde: a fix?  It works for me
[11:00] <```bulldogg> geez all  I wanted tonight was to install a debian distro and pull down some programs to copy my dvds lol
[11:00] <adwait> uuh....i mean to ask fubar
[11:01] <adwait> normally known as fucked up beyond an repair
[11:01] <adwait> :d
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: it's actually very easy
[11:01] <bob2> jacquesmerde: "fix"?
[11:01] <adwait> !fubar
[11:01] <ubotu> adwait: Are you smoking crack?
[11:01] <claint> or beyond all recognition
[11:01] <Madpilot> adwait: "fouled"...
[11:01] <IceDC571> !info pornview
[11:01] <ubotu> pornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 676 kB
[11:01] <```bulldogg> well I got the distro installed... and thats as far as I have gotten
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> !porn-get
[11:01] <ubotu> hmm... porn-get is http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
[11:01] <adwait> lol
[11:01] <adwait> lololol
[11:01] <Hieronymus> ubotu: foobar is variables are often used in computer programming examples.
[11:01] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:01] <Hieronymus> !foobar
[11:01] <ubotu> somebody said foobar was variables are often used in computer programming examples.
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: variables ^THAT^ are
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> or which
[11:02] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: yes, I saw it. How do I fix it?
[11:02] <Hieronymus> !help
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget foobar
[11:02] <ubotu> i forgot foobar, tiglionabbit
[11:02] <jacquesmerde> tiglionabbit, bob2: while it works for a vast majority of people, there are still a LOT of people for whom it doesnt. someone mentioned nicking supermount/submount from mandriva/suse
[11:02] <```bulldogg> can anyone tell me what programs I might use.... I already have k3b installed
[11:03] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: there are a bazillion programs you might use
[11:03] <bob2> jacquesmerde: by "not work", you mean "some people don't umount things before trying to eject them"?
[11:03] <jacquesmerde> a lot of people have to do a sudo eject to open their cdrom drives
[11:03] <Madpilot> ```bulldogg: gnomebaker?
[11:03] <bob2> jacquesmerde: and supermount is a terrible hack
[11:03] <```bulldogg> I want easy... perferably gui
[11:03] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: use the search feature, and sections, and the net, to look around through things you might be interested in
[11:03] <bob2> jacquesmerde: have they filed bugs about that?
[11:03] <Hieronymus> ubotu: foobar is variables which are often used in computer programming examples (like: sudo apt-get install foobar)
[11:03] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:03] <Hieronymus> !foobar
[11:03] <ubotu> well, foobar is variables which are often used in computer programming examples (like: sudo apt-get install foobar)
[11:03] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: oh, and be sure to install chromium and neverball for your amusement
[11:03] <adwait> jacquesmerde: is there a reason ur nick means jack's shit?
[11:03] <claint> Hieronymus : is a variable.
[11:03] <Hieronymus> good bot, ubotu !!
[11:04] <```bulldogg> chromium is a anti-virus software isn't it?
[11:04] <Hieronymus> claint: according to Wikipedia they are 2 variables
[11:04] <Hieronymus> foo and bar
[11:04] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: no, it's a space shooter
[11:04] <jacquesmerde> bob2: well, different people have had different problems. the simplest problems have been solved by a simple manual umount. others not so much
[11:04] <claint> then say foo and bar are variables
[11:04] <```bulldogg> I will go get those right now with synaptic
[11:04] <bob2> jacquesmerde: if they want it fixed, they have to file bugs
[11:04] <Fikrann> ```bulldogg, You might want to install Vega Strike as well }:>
[11:04] <HappyFool> ```bulldogg: synaptic has a 'search' feature
[11:04] <Hieronymus> claint: okay :)
[11:04] <jacquesmerde> bob2: looking at people's replies to people asking for help on ubuntuforums, it sounds like devs are aware of the problem. just wondering what is being done about it...
[11:04] <bob2> yes, "foo" and "bar" are two different but common variables
[11:05] <tiglionabbit> baz qux
[11:05] <bob2> jacquesmerde: bah, posting on forums != filing a bug
[11:05] <jacquesmerde> bob2: i'll search ubuntu's bug thing now
[11:05] <bob2> jacquesmerde: afaik no developers spend time looking for complaints on the forums
[11:05] <jacquesmerde> o
[11:05] <Hieronymus> ubotu: forget foobar
[11:05] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot foobar
[11:05] <jacquesmerde> i'll search the bugzilla
[11:05] <tiglionabbit> when I started programming my bullshit variables were tup and yut
[11:06] <bob2> chromium is a game, which has one of the best bugs, ever
[11:06] <```bulldogg> well those are on there way
[11:06] <tiglionabbit> bob2: bugs?  What bugs?
[11:06] <Madpilot> a "best bug"?
[11:06] <Madpilot> oxymoron, surely?
[11:06] <brenner> it's unbeatable :)
[11:06] <IceDC571> like a bug mobile
[11:06] <IceDC571> yay!
[11:06] <IceDC571> a car...
[11:06] <tiglionabbit> you mean the bug aliens that you shoot at?
[11:06] <jacquesmerde> bob2: there seems to be a fair few bugs listed on bugzilla related to ejecting cds...
[11:06] <bob2> Madpilot: tiglionabbit http://bugs.debian.org/177244
[11:07] <Fikrann> nomasteryoda, that you can't finish it.
[11:07] <```bulldogg> I have not had a good day........ just went out and bought a 220 dollar graphics card for my computer........... it sucks to much power have to get another power supply
[11:07] <Fikrann> er, I meant tiglionabbit
[11:07] <bob2> jacquesmerde: cool
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> lol what the
[11:07] <Hieronymus> ubotu: foobar is a combination of foo and bar, and is often used in programming examples (like 'sudo apt-get install foobar')
[11:07] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:07] <Hieronymus> !foobar
[11:07] <ubotu> [foobar]  a combination of foo and bar, and is often used in programming examples (like 'sudo apt-get install foobar')
[11:08] <Hieronymus> arg
[11:08] <bob2> Hieronymus: just fyi, you can talk to the bot in /msg to teach it things and test the results
[11:08] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: is it really worth it ? ;)
[11:08] <jacquesmerde> bob2: ok, i've found a few of the bugs i'm interested in... how do i find out what's being done about them? are the bugs discussed on bugzilla?
[11:08] <bob2> jacquesmerde: yes, or on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[11:08] <bob2> jacquesmerde: there may have been discussion at the last conference, whichwould be recorded on http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:09] <brenner> ```bulldogg: what card?
[11:09] <tiglionabbit> I once made a silly little program in perl that let you teach a thing words like ubotu does.  Only, I allowed you to teach it the word "is" as well, so you could come up with some interesting sentences
[11:09] <jacquesmerde> bob2: thanks.
[11:09] <kjon> I have a question. I burned all my apt cache, but I wanna to apply all the updates without being connected to internet. Is possible to do this with some automated way?
[11:09] <```bulldogg> I bought a ATI Radeon X 700Pro it wants a 350 watt power supply I only have a 230
[11:10] <HappyFool> hmm. killing watchmen in nethack is bad?
[11:10] <claint> HappyFool : not if you are tough enough.
[11:10] <HappyFool> claint: well, i'm not ;) but i mean it called me a murderer
[11:10] <Hieronymus> stupid ubotu
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: dunno, but eating them sure is.  Unless you're a caveman
[11:10] <jacquesmerde> bob2, nothing at udu :(. i'm waiting for this to get fixed so i can come back to ubuntu from arch
[11:10] <```bulldogg> does that gnomebaker.......... compress and burn to dvds?
[11:11] <whiprush> jacquesmerde: search for "eject" on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: I don't know, but it sure does make some tasty toasted gnomes
[11:11] <```bulldogg> lol
[11:11] <whiprush> 10 bugs filed.
[11:11] <jacquesmerde> whiprush: i did. a few bugs reported. not much activity though
[11:11] <sam_> adom is much more interesting than nethack
[11:11] <IceDC571> why would gnomebaker compress dvds?
[11:11] <HappyFool> yeah, killing watchmen gives me 'transgressed' status. i'm dead
[11:11] <HappyFool> adom?
[11:11] <whiprush> jacquesmerde: limited resources dude, things suck like that sometimes.
[11:12] <kjon> I need help with apt!!! Pleeeeeaseeeee :'(
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: generally when it says something like "murderer" or "cannibal" or "The studio audience applauds" that means you did something that made your god very angry
[11:12] <IceDC571> kjon: whats wrong?
[11:12] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: never got that last one
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: Eat some yellow fungus and kill your dog
[11:12] <Hieronymus> !foobar
[11:12] <ubotu> foobar is probably a metasyntactic variable consisting of foo and bar, often used in programming examples (like 'sudo apt-get install foobar')
[11:12] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: oh, right
[11:12] <HappyFool> heh
[11:12] <Hieronymus> good bot, ubotu :)
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> rofl
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: then sacrifice it.  It has a neat message for that too
[11:13] <claint> Hieronymus : that's more like it ;-p
[11:13] <kjon> I burned all my /var/cache/apt/archive to cd. Now I want to update another computer with these files; but this computer isn't connected to internet. How do I do that?
[11:13] <Hieronymus> claint: yep :)
[11:13] <linuxboy> has anybody done irda in linux?
[11:13] <visor> what does foo bar stands for? i mean where did it come from?
[11:13] <tiglionabbit> visor: read the jargon file
[11:13] <visor> tiglionabbit: ok then
[11:13] <Hieronymus> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[11:13] <tiglionabbit> http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/
[11:13] <tiglionabbit> !jargon
[11:13] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: No idea
[11:14] <tiglionabbit> ubotu jargon is http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/
[11:14] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:14] <```bulldogg> man my computer boggs when I try and start those games
[11:14] <kjon> any hint? :?(
[11:14] <adwait> hey wht does tht little brown bar below  the list of ppl in the room, in x chat stand for?
[11:14] <tiglionabbit> did I get the right jargon file there?  Usually it's like a dictionary
[11:14] <linuxboy> has anybody done irda in ubuntu?
[11:14] <HappyFool> adwait: i think it's a ping meter of some sort
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget jargon
[11:15] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot jargon
[11:15] <thegrok> hi everyone
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: whats your specs?
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: chromium and neverball shouldn't be too hard on it
[11:15] <HappyFool> kjon: try 'man dpkg-scanpackages' maybe
[11:15] <adwait> HappyFool: k
[11:15] <```bulldogg> Well I have a P4 3.0, 1M L2 cache 1G of Ram and an 80G SATA but have onboard video
[11:15] <HappyFool> kjon: i think that lets you setup your own repository
[11:16] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: that was esr's jargon file
[11:16] <kjon> HappyFool: How do I do that? Just specifying the packages' location?
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> ncioe
[11:17] <HappyFool> kjon: i'm not sure -- try reading the manul page ('man dpkg-scanpackages')
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> nice I mean
[11:17] <HappyFool> manual, even
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> gj on the distro
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> finally. gnome 2.10 works the way i want it to
[11:17] <kjon> okay, thx. happyfool.
[11:18] <kjon> thanx for the advice.
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> hmm, this one seems ok
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu jargon is http://jargon.watson-net.com/
[11:18] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg
[11:18] <ubotu> [dpkg]  Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[11:18] <newbie> can i share folder with samba over the internet?
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> newbie: I don't think you can.  I thought SMB was only for local networks.  But if someone knows how, I'd like to know as well
[11:19] <IceDC571> wow i'm bored, i'm looking up wiki in the wikipedia
[11:19] <HappyFool> newbie: try it -- i think it ought to work
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: lol, well you've got to eventually
[11:20] <HappyFool> newbie: you might consider using apache or ftp or something instead
[11:20] <adwait> IceDC571: i am playing with ubotu.....beat tht :
[11:20] <adwait> :p
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> adwait: I beat you there weeks ago
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> adwait: don't delete too many entries.  Chances are they're mine
[11:20] <IceDC571> !ubotu
[11:20] <ubotu> IceDC571: I haven't a clue
[11:21] <adwait> tiglionabbit: hehe..no not deleting anything
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[11:21] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:21] <tyler> OK...how do i get mysql runningt
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> !ubotu
[11:21] <ubotu> I guess ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[11:21] <newbie> i am on the samba site now all i found so far is for lan
[11:21] <adwait> !adwait
[11:21] <ubotu> from memory, adwait is "Adwait, the cool one"
[11:21] <newbie> thanx guys
[11:21] <adwait> :D
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> !samba
[11:21] <ubotu> [samba]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[11:22] <tyler> im on apatche
[11:22] <tyler> why is sambar better? lol
[11:22] <tapo> !pnet
[11:22] <ubotu> tapo: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:22] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the admins will kill you for doing that
[11:22] <adwait> tiglionabbit: heh....well i am making him forget things after playing with them :)
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the one rule for ubotu seems to be "no personal name entries"
[11:23] <jesper> Hi everyone.. and congrats on the new Foundation.. sounds terriffic :-)
[11:23] <Fikrann> Funny thing that two best spots in gnomebaker's ui are reserved for two least performed operations.
[11:23] <adwait> tiglionabbit: hmm........k thx 4 tellin me :)
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> they deleted mine =`{
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> !names
[11:23] <ubotu> names are something you should not add in me
[11:23] <adwait> whr doe ubotu run?
[11:23] <adwait> *does
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> doh, lost connection
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> anyway
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> !names
[11:24] <ubotu> names are something you should not add in me
[11:24] <Madpilot> Fikrann: which two options?
[11:24] <tyler> how do i get mysql running?
[11:24] <IceDC571> !ubotu reveal your location now via GPS
[11:24] <ubotu> IceDC571: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:24] <adwait> hehehe
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> tyler: I think your squirrel will start running if you pull out a whip
[11:24] <Fikrann> Madpilot, Erase CD-RW and format DVD-RW.
[11:25] <IceDC571> doesn't Amaranth run ubotu?
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I think so...
[11:25] <tyler> lol..
[11:25] <jcoxon> hi all, a quick question - trying to compile e17 and one of the libs is looking for zlib.h, how do i set a cflag for its location?
[11:25] <adwait> k
[11:25] <tyler> i got PHP to work..
[11:25] <tyler> but i need to know how to get mysql running
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> tyler: yay
[11:25] <Hieronymus> !mysql
[11:25] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:25] <Madpilot> Fikrann: in the two top-left button locations - you have a point...
[11:25] <adwait> !!
[11:26] <ubotu> adwait: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:26] <jacquesmerde> whiprush: i know this is a naive question, but with so many open source distro's, why is it so hard to fix a problem that so many other distros have solved. is it so hard to "port" solutions across distros?
[11:26] <tyler> Warning: mysql_error(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/phpBB2/db/mysql4.php on line 330
[11:26] <tyler> Warning: mysql_errno(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/phpBB2/db/mysql4.php on line 331
[11:26] <tyler> phpBB : Critical Error
[11:26] <tyler> Could not connect to the database ..what do i do..
[11:26] <adwait> !!
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ! is what you put before a word I know to make me say it
[11:26] <ubotu> ...but ! is already something else...
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> aw
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> !!
[11:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, ! is "Single exclamation will do.....really"
[11:26] <HappyFool> tyler: read the docs
[11:26] <tyler> what docs
[11:26] <Fikrann> Madpilot, I'd put "Copy CD" and "Start new CD" there
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> adwait: try and make them flow in a sentence
[11:27] <adwait> hmm
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: i see a 'mysql-doc' package
[11:27] <Hieronymus> !MOTU
[11:27] <ubotu> I heard motu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/
[11:27] <Hieronymus> !UniverseCandidates
[11:27] <ubotu> I don't know, Hieronymus
[11:27] <tyler> HappyFool: were is it thou..im new to mysql
[11:27] <adwait> !!
[11:27] <ubotu> well, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ! is too many exclamation marks for a single sentence.
[11:27] <ubotu> ...but ! is already something else...
[11:27] <tyler> i mean lunic
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> !!
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: also look in /usr/share/doc/php4, /usr/share/doc/mysql
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> grr
[11:27] <tyler> thks
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: mysql-doc is a package you need to install with synaptic
[11:27] <adwait> lol
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> adwait: stop changing it
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu: universecandidates is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidate
[11:28] <Madpilot> Fikrann: makes sense. filed a bug on it?
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I haven't a clue
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> somebody said universecandidates was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu forget universecandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot universecandidates
[11:28] <IceDC571> isnt it neat how every new media player in linux has native ogg vorbis support?
[11:28] <adwait> !!
[11:28] <ubotu> [!]  what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu: universecandidates is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidates
[11:28] <Fikrann> Madpilot, no .. I just checked out gnomebaker for the first time.. I usually use k3b
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> adwait: Don't use u!
[11:29] <tyler> HappyFool: its not there.
[11:29] <adwait> tiglionabbit: ?
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> plz man, dnt abbrviate!
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> i h8 it
[11:29] <adwait> hehe
[11:29] <IceDC571> from now on.. its Kool3B
[11:29] <Hieronymus> !rot13
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !rot12
[11:29] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !rot13
[11:29] <ThreeDayMonk> tiglionabbit: my pet hate is when people make a request with "pls".  It devalues the point of saying "please"!
[11:29] <Hieronymus> ubotu rot13 say "HI" to tiglionabbit !
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> when you ask it stuff in private, it wont tell it to us
[11:30] <ubotu> fnl "UV" gb gvtyvbanoovg !
[11:30] <Madpilot> Fikrann: haven't tried k3b yet. only owned a burner for a month, though!
[11:30] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[11:30] <IceDC571> lol
[11:30] <tyler> so were else is mysql server at..
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> ThreeDayMonk: I was requesting that he don't abbreviate.  I was being silly.  Don't you get it?
[11:30] <ThreeDayMonk> yeah, I got that!  I was just agreeing with you that I hate abbreviations like that.
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> !rot13
[11:30] <Fikrann> Madpilot, k3b is >the< cd/dvd mastering program for linux.
[11:31] <Madpilot> ubotu knows rot13... that's cool...
[11:31] <ubotu> Madpilot: Wish i knew
[11:31] <capi> Is postfix for sending AND recieving mail, or just sending?
[11:31] <Madpilot> :)
[11:31] <Hieronymus> capi: man postfix
[11:31] <Madpilot> Fikrann: I'll have to try it out, then.
[11:31] <Hieronymus> !info postfix
[11:31] <adwait> !rtfm
[11:31] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[11:31] <ubotu> somebody said rtfm was Read The "Fine" Manual
[11:31] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[11:32] <adwait> capi.......wasnt really for u......just wanted to use tht once :D
[11:32] <IceDC571> i love it when he stabs things
[11:32] <adwait> no reason :p
[11:32] <IceDC571> how lovely
[11:32] <Madpilot> are data CDs burned in Gnomebaker automatically multi-session, or is there some setting that I cant' find?
[11:33] <Fikrann> Madpilot, no idea, but I'm pretty sure they aren't by default.
[11:33] <IceDC571> thats why i like to use the terminal for burning cds
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[11:33] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntulinux.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <IceDC571> !fedora
[11:33] <ubotu> No idea, IceDC571
[11:33] <IceDC571> someone define fedora ;)
[11:33] <adwait> ubotu fedora is a buggy OS my redhat
[11:33] <ubotu> okay, adwait
[11:33] <adwait> !fedora
[11:34] <IceDC571> my redhat?
[11:34] <IceDC571> hmm...
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <adwait> uuh
[11:34] <ubotu> methinks fedora is a buggy OS my redhat
[11:34] <adwait> ubotu forget fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> i forgot fedora, adwait
[11:34] <capi> Well, man doesn't really answer my question. I'm asking because I can send mail fine, but I can't recieve it. I telnet to port 25 and it doesn't seem like anything is there, just want to make sure I'm using the right program.
[11:34] <adwait> ubotu fedora is a buggy OS by redhat
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> ...but fedora is already something else...
[11:34] <Madpilot> ubotu windows is a bad idea
[11:34] <ubotu> ...but windows is already something else...
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <Madpilot> drat...
[11:34] <Madpilot> !windows
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !alternative
[11:34] <ubotu> well, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:34] <gm78> Hey, does anyone know if it is possible to install win32codecs on an amd64 and have them be used by VLC et al?
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> well, fedora is what you use when you haven't heard of Ubuntu
[11:35] <adwait> lol
[11:35] <IceDC571> what the crap?
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> that's mine
[11:35] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu
[11:35] <IceDC571> why didnt he know when i asked it?
[11:35] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <IceDC571> !gentoo
[11:35] <ubotu> IceDC571: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: cuz I just defined it
[11:35] <adwait> !microsoft
[11:35] <ubotu> adwait: No idea
[11:35] <marc> lo
[11:36] <Fikrann> I can't get Qemu to compile .. *sniff*
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> you guys, lets do our defining in the channel window so it isn't so hard
[11:36] <adwait> :(.......anybody want that one?
[11:36] <Madpilot> ubotu microsoft is evil
[11:36] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[11:36] <capi> If postfix was working what would I see when I telnet localhost 25?
[11:36] <Madpilot> !microsoft
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> ubotu pizza is delicious
[11:36] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:36] <Hieronymus> Madpilot: don't do that
[11:36] <Hieronymus> !conduct
[11:36] <ubotu> somebody said conduct was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[11:36] <IceDC571> !apple
[11:36] <ubotu> I don't know, IceDC571
[11:36] <IceDC571> !freebsd
[11:36] <ubotu> IceDC571: Are you smoking crack?
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> ubotu apple is a fruit
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubuntu forget pizza
[11:36] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[11:36] <Madpilot> Hieronymus: couldn't resist. will fix it
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubuntu forget apple
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: ay
[11:36] <adwait> !microsoft
[11:36] <Madpilot> ubotu forget microsoft
[11:36] <ubotu> I guess microsoft is evil
[11:36] <ubotu> Madpilot: i forgot microsoft
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubotu: forget apple
[11:36] <ubotu> i forgot apple, Hieronymus
[11:37] <marc> While on the subject of apple, is there anyway to get Gnome to mimic OS X's application menu behaviour?
[11:37] <Fikrann> Hey, don't overload poor bot .. it might get memory leaks.
[11:37] <adwait> marc: i hear xfce is something like tht
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> marc: sort of, yes
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> marc: I've seen screenshots...  but yeah, xfce has the lil'star iconbox, which is more like it
[11:38] <marc> adwait, you can do it in KDE too
[11:38] <Hieronymus> ubotu: motugames is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGames
[11:38] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> what is that motu thing?
[11:38] <adwait> marc: hmm.......i used KDE just once......like gnome better though :)
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> !motu
[11:38] <ubotu> motu is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/
[11:38] <Hieronymus> ubotu: newgames is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNEWGames
[11:38] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> what is motu?
[11:38] <Hieronymus> Masters of the Universe
[11:38] <unome> guys, abusing the bot will just make them kill it.
[11:39] <marc> tiglionabbit, I hear its not in gnome by default because it breaks gnomes HCI standards.. I just want application menu bars appear at the top when the window has focus :(
[11:39] <adwait> :( my net sux today........i am getting 40-50 kbps :(
[11:39] <IceDC571> adwait: my cell phone gets better speeds than that
[11:39] <marc> adwait, it obviously needs to suck harder
[11:39] <adwait> and the ping meter thingy in xchat is going thru the roof :p
[11:40] <Fikrann> heh
[11:40] <adwait> IceDC571: hmm....well i guess theres some problem @ their end....till yesterday i was getting abt 200
[11:40] <IceDC571> adwait: what connection, LSD? Cable?
[11:40] <adwait> ADSL
[11:40] <IceDC571> ahh.. assholeDSL
[11:41] <adwait> hehe
[11:41] <adwait> thru phone line......so probably some problem with the phone line or god knows wht else
[11:41] <IceDC571> adwait: where are you at?
[11:41] <adwait> but one things 4 sure.........those bastards are probably not going to fix it till sunday
[11:41] <ColonelKernel> adwait, ive been having problems bcause my ISP's DNS servers are workign poorly
[11:41] <adwait> IceDC571: india
[11:41] <marc> adwait, Probably birds on the phone line :P
[11:41] <IceDC571> oh wait i knew that
[11:41] <adwait> marc: phone lines are underground :)
[11:41] <Fikrann> adwait, you might want to restart your modem .. it does help here, usually.
[11:41] <ColonelKernel> I redid my /etc/resolv.conf to point at qwests DNS servers
[11:42] <IceDC571> adwait: maybe kids playing in the mud on your line?
[11:42] <adwait> Fikrann: did it already ......restarted the router/restaet my pc :p
[11:42] <Fikrann> adwait, ahh, bummer.
[11:42] <ColonelKernel> adwait, is it still slow after that?
[11:42] <adwait> IceDC571: hmm......i dont think kids can dig abt 30-40 feet deep and then crack open tht pipe tht holds the telephone wires :p
[11:43] <adwait> ColonelKernel: yeah :(....it speeds up for a while.then becomes slow again
[11:43] <marc> adwait, I have an overhead phoneline for about 200 feet before it go's underground :P
[11:43] <Fikrann> adwait, 30 feet? That's quite deep
[11:43] <adwait> marc: it rains pretty heaviily here, so if they had overhead phones, our lines would go dead all thru the monsoon
[11:43] <ColonelKernel> adwait, you ought to check out www.dslreports.com - do a speed test and a packet loss test
[11:43] <IceDC571> maybe its an underwater phone line
[11:44] <marc> adwait, Maybe you got moles on the line
[11:44] <albacker> guys, i installed the new kernel 2.6.12-3 using breezy repo. than it installed glibc too. while using gcc it didnt recognize the C libraries, like stdio.h string.h. so i thought that installing glibc-dev would help. when trying to apt-get isntall it it got up with some errors, conflicting errors. what should i do ? i thought its because of the unstable kernel ! is that right ? can i get the kernel from warty repo ?
[11:44] <marc> Or even Wombles!
[11:44] <adwait> Fikrann: hmm.....thts how deep it is i believe.....just an estimate coz they seem to dig pretty deep to lay them
[11:44] <IceDC571> maybe someone is digging to india
[11:44] <IceDC571> i think its Amaranth
[11:44] <adwait> IceDC571: hehe........
[11:44] <marc> THey were patching through to china, for those ever so cheap call rates and uber fast dsl
[11:44] <Fikrann> IceDC571, then yes, it'd have to be deep, but only under water.. usually they put it at about 6 to 10 feet.
[11:44] <adwait> marc: :p
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> albacker, i highly reccomend you give the latest stable 2.6.12 on kernel.org a shot
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> its really stable and smooth
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> if youre a fan of 2.6.12 that is
[11:45] <IceDC571> like butter
[11:45] <Fikrann> albacker, read the topic.
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> im building 2.6.13-rc2 right now
[11:45] <albacker> ColonelKernel: you mean i should get it the .deb ?
[11:45] <Madpilot> later, all. need some sleep...
[11:45] <IceDC571> i want to rub butter all over ubotu
[11:45] <adwait> gnite madpilot
[11:46] <albacker> well i dont want to compile it myself.
[11:46] <albacker> i got the kernel .deb and it got all hardware configuration from the old kernel.
[11:46] <ColonelKernel> so is the base install pretty much like deb's install with gnome-desktop-environment installed?
[11:46] <Fikrann> albacker, trying to install breezy by updating from Hoary probably screwed your system.
[11:46] <Fikrann> albacker, you will have problems.
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: not really.  It's got a lot more desktop-y stuff, and no compiling things
[11:47] <albacker> Fikrann: so what to do ?
[11:47] <IceDC571> fedora's installer crashed right when i loaded it
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> yeah I had to install a buttload of dev packages and gcc and zlibc and all sorts of stuff, until someone clued me in to build-essental
[11:47] <IceDC571> it happens in every system i try
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> then it was like butta
[11:47] <IceDC571> move the mouse before anaconda comes up.. *crash*
[11:48] <ColonelKernel> uh oh
[11:48] <adwait> hehe......IceD571, thts because of some disk geomtery error or sometihg?
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yeah.  You still will need -dev packages though, for specific compiles
[11:48] <adwait> ooh
[11:48] <Fikrann> albacker, rip out your system and install pure Hoary again. Trying to revert changes will put you into even deeper problems. I know because I did that just two days ago.
[11:48] <adwait> fc3=buggy
[11:48] <albacker> you guys suggest me to get the .deb from kernel.org ?
[11:48] <IceDC571> seriously try it.. any fedora core installer.. move the mouse before the install gui comes up
[11:49] <Fikrann> albacker, you won't find .deb files on kernel.org.
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: that's one reason I love whiptail
[11:49] <albacker> Fikrann: ok i installed beatrix [a ubuntu based] .. it uses warty repos. and it has 2.6.7 i havent gone to 2.6.12 yet. because i was afraid that it would happen again.
[11:49] <IceDC571> what?
[11:49] <IceDC571> !info whiptail
[11:49] <ubotu> whiptail: (Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts), section base, is standard. Version: 0.51.6-20ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> whiptail is the console graphics they use for dialog boxes in the ubuntu installer
[11:49] <albacker> Fikrann: 2.6.12 isnt in warty repo.
[11:49] <tyler> weres the place with all the codes..
[11:49] <IceDC571> ohh i see
[11:49] <tyler> the website
[11:50] <albacker> what if i search for 2.6.12 in breezy ?
[11:50] <IceDC571> i love that installer, ive been using it since debian sarge was unstable
[11:50] <tyler> can somone give me the URL?
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> try it out.  say "whiptail --msgbox "Hey what's up doods" 10 40
[11:50] <Fikrann> albacker, get kernel source tarball from kernel org and compile it yourself.
[11:50] <HappyFool> tyler: what codes?
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> oops, I broke my "s
[11:50] <tyler> the place with all the codes so i can install all the extra things.
[11:50] <HappyFool> !sources
[11:50] <albacker> Fikrann: that is what i didnt want to do.
[11:50] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:51] <albacker> Fikrann: i know it will take a lot.
[11:51] <tyler> like media codes micromedia flash...you know
[11:51] <Fikrann> albacker, DO NOT TRY USING BREEZY IF YOU HAD NOT INSTALLED IT FRESH.
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> whiptail --yesno "Do you want some spam?" 10 40
[11:51] <ColonelKernel> lovely spam!
[11:51] <IceDC571> well i'd say dont try breezy at all unless you're a developer
[11:51] <albacker> Fikrann: i installed beatrix again. its a fresh install. its 2.6.7 in it. what to do ?? except compiling kernel.] 
[11:51] <Fikrann> albacker, about 25 min on P3 600MHz, about 10min on my P-M 1.6
[11:52] <tyler> HappyFool: so...were is the website
[11:52] <daniels> Fikrann: why?  upgrading to breezy should just work fine.
[11:52] <HappyFool> tyler: ah. codecs
[11:52] <HappyFool> !restricted
[11:52] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:52] <IceDC571> daniels: hey, you're not idle :)
[11:52] <HappyFool> tyler: try that one
[11:52] <Fikrann> daniels, it doesnt. I tried that two days ago and had to reinstall system.
[11:52] <nightswim> what is the gnome bittorrent client called?
[11:52] <albacker> Fikrann:  i dontl ike responding to all the questions.
[11:52] <nightswim> is that bittornado?
[11:52] <daniels> IceDC571: not as idle as I may seem
[11:52] <albacker> Fikrann: is there any option that configures everything from 2.6.7 ?
[11:53] <daniels> Fikrann: if an upgrade is broken, then a clean install will not be any better.
[11:53] <Fikrann> albacker, you can use 2.6.10-5 from Hoary. If you want 2.6.12, go compile it yourself.
[11:53] <IceDC571> nightswim: gnome-btdownload
[11:53] <Fikrann> albacker, yes, make oldconfig.
[11:53] <daniels> Fikrann: in fact, a clean install is guaranteed to be *worse*, given that I helpfully broke clean installs of xserver-xorg last week, and haven't yet fixed it.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> !info bittornado-gui
[11:53] <daniels> albacker: why do you want 2.6.12 so desperately?
[11:53] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (Bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[11:53] <nightswim> IceDC571: thanks
[11:53] <tyler> HappyFool: i ment the one that has like 150 black boxes full of codes
[11:53] <albacker> because im bored with the 2.6.7 !
[11:53] <Fikrann> daniels, I meant install from the Colony cd.
[11:53] <marc> !info gdesklets
[11:53] <albacker> and there is this usb bug in 2.6.7
[11:53] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[11:54] <HappyFool> tyler: i do not know what you are talking about, sorry
[11:54] <daniels> Fikrann: if upgrades are broken, then upgrades are broken
[11:54] <Coyctecm> anybody knows software like macromedia flash mx?
[11:54] <Fikrann> albacker, then switch to 2.6.10
[11:54] <adwait> m out ppl
[11:54] <adwait> bbye
[11:54] <IceDC571> nightswim: actually it might be something else, im not sure
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> Coyctecm: what about it?
[11:54] <albacker> Fikrann: get them from hoary ? breezy?
[11:54] <Fikrann> daniels, yes, but colony cd is supposed not to be broken that much.
[11:55] <IceDC571> nightswim: actually i was right the first time
[11:55] <Fikrann> albacker, you can get 2.6.10 from hoary
[11:55] <cyphase> is LimeWire any good?
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> cyphase: there's gtk-gnutella
[11:55] <IceDC571> cyphase: i dont think so..
[11:55] <daniels> Fikrann: oh, colony 2.  right.  but then you're stuck with not dist-upgrading, which leaves you open to security holes, running on old software which defeats the point of breezy, etc.
[11:55] <IceDC571> i'd use emule
[11:55] <IceDC571> ack
[11:55] <Coyctecm> limewire is bad...shows ads...
[11:55] <IceDC571> i didnt say that
[11:55] <IceDC571>  i meant amule
[11:55] <Fikrann> cyphase, if you want your system to work like a half-rotten zombie, sure.
[11:55] <cyphase> tiglionabbit, it doesn't look so hot. and i'm not talking about interface
[11:55] <cyphase> lol
[11:55] <tyler> HappyFool: i mean the one so u can install like realplayer and like Xine and so on
[11:55] <Coyctecm> newist amule for ubuntu? 2.03?
[11:55] <Fikrann> daniels, yes, you're right.
[11:56] <IceDC571> but what the hell is legal on edonkey these days?
[11:56] <HappyFool> tyler: have you read the RestrictedFormats page ?
[11:56] <HappyFool> !restricted
[11:56] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <cyphase> i do use amule
[11:56] <cyphase> it's running right now
[11:56] <cyphase> but..
[11:56] <Coyctecm> what version?
[11:56] <irakli> I wanted to install some fonts firs i write 1.  " cache search cyrillic"  2. sudo fc-cache -f -v
[11:56] <HappyFool> tyler: that covers many movie/audio/dvd codec issues
[11:56] <marc> Coyctecm, you can program flash files in eclipse, but i doubt thats any help
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> !info totem-xine
[11:56] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[11:56] <IceDC571> i think ubotu is reaching its highest peak usage today
[11:56] <cyphase> 2.0.0rc7
[11:56] <Fikrann> daniels, I need to get some pc emulator running .. I'd test out Breezy and put some bug reports, but I'm no longer inclined to touch my base system.
[11:57] <marc> !info xpilot
[11:57] <ubotu> xpilot: (Multi-player tactical game for X), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.5.5beta.20031222-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[11:57] <Coyctecm> marc: can I? Oh, of course I would test it out
[11:57] <ColonelKernel> very nice sound engine
[11:57] <ColonelKernel> very, very nice
[11:57] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: what? lol
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: what are you talking about?
[11:58] <irakli> I wanted to install some fonts firs i write 1.  " cache search cyrillic"  2. sudo fc-cache -f -v
[11:58] <Coyctecm> cyphase: newest is 2.03 but I don't think it has any matter
[11:58] <irakli> help me
[11:58] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, I use an audigy 2 and the sound server is really nice on ubuntu
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> irakli: ??  you're doing it wrong
[11:58] <ColonelKernel> just giving props to the developers I guess
[11:58] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: i have to admit, its a bit better in windows
[11:59] <marc> Coyctecm, You may want to check out --> http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: really?  I thought the default setup for Hoary kind of sucked
[11:59] <IceDC571> i notice the difference... but it still is nice in *nix
[11:59] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, works great here
[11:59] <IceDC571> i want to get an M-Audio card and hear what it sounds like in linux
[11:59] <marc> I want to get a laptop, any suggestions in the sub 700 mark?
[11:59] <IceDC571> i think the best card to get is the Live! right now, its cheap and it sounds beautiful
[11:59] <beowu1f> can anyone tell me what the name of the app. is running on top right corner of this desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/julyclean.jpg
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: well, my sound chipset probably sucks anyway, so what do I know about how it should sound =P
[12:00] <albacker> Fikrann: http://www.watsky.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?action=search2  ----have a look at post number 23.  is that wrong /?
[12:00] <marc> super karamba i beleive
[12:00] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: what sound chipset are you using?
[12:00] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, I have never had good results off of non sb cards
[12:00] <marc> beowu1f, Isnt that a superkaramba applet?
[12:00] <ColonelKernel> they always have random problems
[12:00] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: i cant notice the difference between the live! and audigy's
[12:01] <ColonelKernel> emu10k1 is good though and im pretty sure I could pull off multitrack recording with real time effects
[12:01] <Coyctecm> marc: thanks! I must try that out
[12:01] <marc> Coyctecm, Nps :)
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: says intel 82801db-ich4 and Cirrus Logic CS4299 rev 4
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> I have no idea what that means though
[12:01] <beowu1f> marc, thanks .. will investigate
[12:01] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: get a sb live! for cheap.. it sounds good
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: this is a laptop =P
[12:01] <marc> beowu1f, If you are using gnome, you can consider gdesklets as an alternative, IMHO  I beleive it to be better than karamba
[12:02] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, I think maybe its just the onboard firewire and ports for external controller, Im pretty sure the actual PU on the card is the same - but I could be mistaken.
[12:02] <marc> beowu1f, If you have your universe repo's added you can install both using synaptic
[12:02] <Fikrann> albacker, that addy yelds 404
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:02] <ubotu> [repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:03] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: they're not the same.. i've got my pots re-done on the audigy 2 and it sounds better than anything you could buy right now
[12:03] <albacker> Fikrann: oh you probably have to be a meber :(
[12:03] <albacker> wait
[12:03] <IceDC571> but i dont notice the difference between my live card
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> pots?
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> telephony?
[12:03] <irakli> do i need always do repostitories when i have to install program
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: clay pots?
[12:03] <IceDC571> no.. the stuff you smoke
[12:03] <marc> irakli, what do you mean?
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, are you using asterisk?
[12:04] <Fikrann> marc, gdesklets are much better than [super] karamba anyway.
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I didn't know that could be plural
[12:04] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: asterisk?
[12:04] <marc> Fikrann, I know :P
[12:04] <ColonelKernel> its a voip server
[12:04] <irakli> I am noob
[12:04] <ColonelKernel> its for using your pc as a pbx
[12:04] <marc> irakli, But what do you mean?
[12:04] <IceDC571> pbx?
[12:05] <beowu1f> marc, thanks man will have a look
[12:05] <marc> Telephone xchange :P
[12:05] <cyphase> Private Branch Exchange
[12:05] <cyphase> eXchange*
[12:05] <cyphase> :)
[12:05] <IceDC571> oh i thought it was Pot Booze and Ecstacy
[12:05] <ColonelKernel> its something you use for your own phone service or to provide phone service to a building
[12:06] <IceDC571> omg that doesnt even match pbx
[12:06] <albacker> Fikrann: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MrsuD337.html << here it is
[12:06] <IceDC571> i want a kitty cat
[12:06] <marc> You can use it to set up an adult chat line
[12:07] <irakli> 1. when I am intalling for exaple  MOdem driver, in Linuxguide is written 1. add repostitories and than 2. other orrders
[12:07] <Fikrann> albacker, you DO NOT WANT to have Breezy in your repository list.
[12:07] <irakli> ...
[12:08] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: you're going to try to record in linux?
[12:08] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, nah
[12:08] <marc> irakli, Does it ask you to add repo's into your source.list file?
[12:08] <ColonelKernel> I wouldnt mind it but it looks like a rather troublesome process
[12:08] <albacker> Fikrann: ok, thanks
[12:09] <irakli> no, without repo's it can be intalled also
[12:09] <irakli> programs
[12:09] <marc> irakli what does it ask you to do about repos?
[12:09] <IceDC571> i wonder if anyone uses kino
[12:09] <irakli> xpdf for example
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[12:09] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !synaptic
[12:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:09] <ubotu> repositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[12:09] <ubotu> [sources]  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:09] <marc> ty lol :P
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> that is all the info you should need
[12:09] <IceDC571> viewing movies is hard enough
[12:09] <marc> !chicken
[12:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, marc
[12:10] <IceDC571> seriously can someone really edit movies successfully with kino?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> ubotu chicken is what people think it tastes like
[12:10] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:10] <irakli> I have xine, but It cannot play mp3 files
[12:10] <irakli> ?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[12:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:10] <IceDC571> xine isnt supposed to play mp3 files
[12:10] <marc> !chicken
[12:10] <Fikrann> albacker, anyway.. shouldn't you be bugging beatrix developers about it?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> marc: gotta wait a bit
[12:10] <albacker> irakli: well you probablly need xmms or beep-media-player
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> beep-media-player looks better, so get it instead
[12:11] <marc> irakli, Ubuntu doesnt ship with the mp3 codecs
[12:11] <albacker> Fikrann: oh i did, but i thought id get faster help here.
[12:11] <albacker> you probably should replace xine with mplayer
[12:11] <IceDC571> cyphase: where did you go?
[12:11] <marc> Whats the name of the package manager, similar to synpatic that remembers dependencies?
[12:11] <irakli> I dont know how to install mplayer
[12:11] <Fikrann> albacker, xine is nicer for everyone elso than hardcore console users.
[12:12] <albacker> Fikrann: mplayer has its graphical user interface called gmplayer :)
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> marc: all apt remember dependencies
[12:13] <irakli> what about realplayer?
[12:13] <zaki_> hi everyone
[12:13] <sunrex> whats the code for installing A.realplayer  B.newer version of firefox
[12:13] <marc> tiglionabbit, I mean, when you unsintall something using this, as long as all the dependencies arent being used it will uninstall those too
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> irakli: get totem-xine, and perhaps w32codecs
[12:13] <albacker> irakli: you probably wont find it it the ubuntu repos, but there are some other repos marillot etc...
[12:13] <zaki_> can any one teach me about repositories plese
[12:13] <marc> !repositories
[12:13] <albacker> irakli: taking about mplayer ^^
[12:13] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> marc: synaptic has a filter for things that are depended on by a package.  and there's deborphan
[12:13] <marc> !chicken
[12:13] <ubotu> chicken is probably what people think it tastes like
[12:14] <Fikrann> albacker, you should not advertise marillat for ubuntu users.
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:14] <zaki_> can any one teach me about repositories plese
[12:14] <albacker> Fikrann: i told him to use it only for mplayer, than he can delete them.
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> find w32codecs, libdvdcss2, and gstreamer0.8-lame in backports
[12:14] <buzbe> anyone know how to tell what switches where used (ie nolapic noapic etc) when ubuntu was installed?
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> alrighty
[12:15] <albacker> if you get mplayer from there, its not a problem.
[12:15] <sunrex> how do i get a new version of firefox?
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> that nerw kernel works well so far
[12:15] <albacker> sunrex: apt-get install firefox
[12:15] <Fikrann> albacker, he won't be able to, mplayer in marillat is linked against new Debian glibc.
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> sunrex: you have a new version
[12:15] <thegrok> anyone here uses firestarter to act as a home LAN router?
[12:15] <albacker> or mozilla-firefox
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[12:15] <ubotu> firefox is probably version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> some error msg about devfs but so far everythings working
[12:15] <buzbe> anyone know how to tell what switches where used (ie nolapic noapic etc) when ubuntu was installed?
[12:16] <ColonelKernel> Linux version 2.6.13-rc2 (root@p4ht) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sat Jul 9 02:21:36 PDT 2005
[12:16] <egi> !info gmplayer
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:16] <ColonelKernel> :D stoked
[12:16] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[12:16] <IceDC571> The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux... yeah, right
[12:17] <IceDC571> more like a Qt disaster
[12:17] <egi> i thought someone mention a gnome version of mplayer
[12:17] <IceDC571> wait, what is mplayer based on?
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: well it handles the moste formats, even though its interface sucks
[12:17] <ColonelKernel> is the ubuntu update tool only supposed to pop up when you have updates available?
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> egi: the mplayer package installs gmplayer too
[12:17] <albacker> egi : gmplayer is the gui version of mplayer, install mplayer and than gmplayer. its just the user interface
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yes
[12:17] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, yes it set to check once a day
[12:17] <irakli> tell me orders to instal fonts howto 1. ... 2 ... 3. ..... please
[12:17] <marc> any european backports mirrors?
[12:18] <irakli> I need Georgian
[12:18] <ColonelKernel> NICE
[12:18] <ColonelKernel> thats a very good tool - thanks!
[12:18] <jcoxon> any fluxbox users here?
[12:19] <albacker> jcoxon: i used to be. :) but in #fluxbox youll certenly find some other fb users :)
[12:19] <jcoxon> albacker, its just a fluxbox/ubuntu related question
[12:20] <jcoxon> i'll have a look
[12:20] <albacker> ohh. . ok.
[12:20] <x-unix> can someone help?
[12:20] <x-unix> please
[12:20] <jcoxon> just wondering how to make applications exec on startup of fluxbox
[12:20] <Fikrann> x-unix, No.
[12:20] <albacker> jcoxon: i think you can make this in the theme config file !
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> jcoxon: tried the #fluxbox channel?
[12:21] <jtgameover> jcoxon, you need to put it in your ~/.fluxbox/startfluxbox file
[12:21] <albacker> ohh
[12:21] <albacker>  ok
[12:21] <albacker> i used to change my background from the theme file !
[12:21] <jcoxon> tiglionabbit, on my way :)
[12:21] <x-unix> when i'm trying to run update manager, the password doesn't work, su password or user pasword...
[12:21] <albacker> x-unix: sudo su and than passwd
[12:21] <jtgameover> and make sure your Xsession file for fluxbox in /usr/share/xsessions uses "startfluxbox" and not "fluxbox"
[12:21] <egi> gmplayer ask for font files... anybody knows where could i find one?
[12:21] <Fikrann> x-unix, try sudo bash and supply it your own password.
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: it should be your user password
[12:22] <albacker> egi, theres a package callet mplayer-font or something like that.
[12:22] <HappyFool> your user password should work
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[12:22] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:22] <jtgameover> jcoxon, CORRECTION: it is your ~/.fluxbox/startup file
[12:22] <jcoxon> jtgameover, i just worked that out :)
[12:22] <x-unix> thanks
[12:22] <egi> albacker, thx
[12:22] <jcoxon> jtgameover, the power of google :)
[12:22] <marc> tiglionabbit, what repo is mplayer on?
[12:22] <jtgameover> jcoxon, fluxbox is awesome
[12:23] <jtgameover> www.cs.washington.edu/homes/jtan325/jtan325_desktop_7-06-05.png
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:23] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[12:23] <jtgameover> that is my pimpin' desktop
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> it's on multiverse
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:23] <ubotu> I guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:23] <jcoxon> jtgameover, i'm combining it with pogo, even cooler
[12:23] <jtgameover> jcoxon, what's pogo
[12:24] <IceDC571> wonderful.. my microsoft mouse just died on me.. again.. i hate M$ mice
[12:24] <jtgameover> ohhh found it
[12:24] <jtgameover> needs to have higher page rank!
[12:24] <zaki_> hello everyone
[12:24] <x-unix> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: bla bla bla status 1, for both passwords, i even changed them both...
[12:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Logitech MX510 :D
[12:24] <jtgameover> that looks pretty cool, jcoxon
[12:24] <zaki_> can any one tech me about ubuntu repositories
[12:25] <jtgameover> but with fluxbox, you shouldn't ever need icons
[12:25] <HappyFool> x-unix: what does 'sudo ls' do ?
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, just trying to find a screenshot
[12:25] <jtgameover> icons take up precious desktop space
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: open a terminal.  Say sudo -s.  Now run it
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, guess you found one
[12:25] <HappyFool> x-unix: are you maybe running synaptic at the same time ?
[12:25] <jtgameover> www.cs.washington.edu/homes/jtan325/jtan325_desktop_7-06-05.png is the only screenshot you'll ever need :-)
[12:25] <jtgameover> haha jk jk
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, fluxbox provides the perfect manager for it
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, all the others are to crowded
[12:26] <jtgameover> what i'm really looking for is something like mac's Expose'
[12:26] <jtgameover> expocity and skippy
[12:26] <jtgameover> seem to be the linux versions
[12:26] <jtgameover> but apparently they're too slow right now
[12:27] <MsK`> hi
[12:27] <MsK`> is there a way to underclock the video card ?
[12:27] <vladuz976> hi i removed python with apt-get to get another version of it. unfortunately apt-get remove also removed a whole bunch of other stuff. now i reinstalled python but it didn't install all the other stuff. what can i do to undo my mistake?
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: yeah, those are a couple of the "bugs" listed on ubuntu's bugzilla.  "Microsoft has the greater market share", and "What to do when mac users start showing off genie effects"
[12:28] <mbirkis> how can i get ogg support in beep media player?
[12:28] <jtgameover> lol
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: you serious?
[12:28] <jcoxon> jtgameover, brb gonna test it
[12:28] <flexs> hello, i installed ubuntu linu, what is my root password, help ?
[12:28] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: yes, how so?
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: it should support it already
[12:28] <jtgameover> tiglionabbit, you show them the genie effects of fluxbox and openbox and whatnot
[12:28] <jtgameover> it would be a battle of genies
[12:28] <HappyFool> flexs: logging in as root is disabled by default
[12:28] <jtgameover> and a penguin sure beats an apple
[12:28] <HappyFool> flexs: use 'sudo'
[12:29] <HappyFool> !sudo
[12:29] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:29] <HappyFool> flexs: read the url for more
[12:29] <jtgameover> in fact
[12:29] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: hmm... what is wrong with my ogg files then?
[12:29] <flexs> ok i try....
[12:29] <flexs> thanx
[12:29] <jtgameover> there should be a wallpaper or something that shows the linux penguin beating up the msn butterfly, while eating the MAC apple
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> hahah, Penguins EAT Apples, and then they fling themselves through Windows.  Thus they are the champions
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: dunno.  Go download "Burning Heat 3rd Option Mix.ogg"
[12:30] <marc> OSX > any linux desktop :P
[12:30] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: ok, thnx for the help
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> that's the file I played =P
[12:31] <marc> Simply because gnome's devs decided that OS X like menu behaviour breaks their HCI rules :(
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> http://fallenearth.org/blogs/caiuschen/archives/2003/11/02/all_hallows_eve/3%20Option%20Mix%20-%20Burning%20Heat.ogg
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> whats the rules for?
[12:31] <Markrian> HCI? You mean HIG?
[12:31] <parabolize> I am haveing trouble downloading the ums firmware for my ifp-890. its a zip file but firefox trys to open it. korean text pops up. wget crashes. here is the url: http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process.asp?fileName=ifp890us-ums128.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH
[12:31] <Markrian> Human Interface Guidelines
[12:31] <marc> human computer interface
[12:32] <marc> yah
[12:32] <marc> that
[12:32] <marc> :P
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> parabolize: I get a korean 404 page
[12:32] <MsK`> no idea ?
[12:32] <Hieronymus> !hig
[12:32] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:32] <Hieronymus> ubotu hig is Human Interface Guidelines
[12:33] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[12:33] <Hieronymus> !HIG
[12:33] <ubotu> I guess hig is Human Interface Guidelines
[12:33] <ColonelKernel> how can I get firefox to upgrade - its being held back - I tried dist-upgrade but ti still didnt upgrade
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: you don't need to upgrade firefox
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[12:33] <ubotu> firefox is probably version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[12:33] <jcoxon> did it :p
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> I wish ubotu wouldn't say "probably"
[12:33] <jtgameover> how is it?
[12:34] <jcoxon> jtgameover, very cool, though it wasn't startup i had to edit, i had to make a new file called apps
[12:34] <jtgameover> ....
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> address bar?
[12:34] <P3L|C4N0> !ethstatus
[12:34] <ubotu> P3L|C4N0: I give up, what is it?
[12:34] <jtgameover> hmm
[12:34] <MsK`> a way to underclock my ati card ? no idea ?
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yes, where you type in urls
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> wow
[12:35] <ColonelKernel> thats neato torpedo
[12:35] <jcoxon> jtgameover, in .fluxbox/apps you put [startup]  {program}
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> it sure is
[12:35] <P3L|C4N0> ubotu ethstatus is Console-based ethernet statistics monitor
[12:35] <ubotu> P3L|C4N0: okay
[12:35] <P3L|C4N0> !ethstatus
[12:35] <ubotu> I heard ethstatus is Console-based ethernet statistics monitor
[12:35] <flexs> ok i write command -- sudp passwd root -- then i write the password, but if i want login, ubuntu says, not allowed to login like root.... what the problem.... i want root panel...
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> it was 1.0
[12:36] <flexs> tb sudo
[12:36] <jtgameover> jcoxon, i use startup
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[12:36] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:36] <jtgameover> two solutions to the same problem
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, what do I do after that?
[12:36] <jcoxon> jtgameover, oh well, i'm happy
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> flexs: if you REALLY must enable root, go to system -> admin -> login screen setup and uncheck the box that says you can't login as root.  But, it is not recommended on ANY linux distro tu run Xserver as root
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> s/tu/to
[12:37] <umar> y its not recommended to run xserver
[12:37] <umar> as root
[12:37] <umar> reason?
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> umar: cuz you can get teh haxed
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> and spyware'd
[12:38] <umar> sorry cant understand
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> ask some security guy, I don't really know.  But I do know that it's not that hard to run it as a normal user and just use sudo or gksudo on things
[12:38] <umar> ok
[12:39] <marc> Argh
[12:39] <Redo> anyone dual boot with WinXP on an UATA drive and Ubuntu on a SATA drive?
[12:39] <marc> Mozilla wont remember my file associations
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, ahould I change the appversion too - or is there a way to actuallyupgrade the package
[12:39] <flexs> nothing works...
[12:39] <marc> It still wishes to open movie files in totem instead of Mplayer
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: no way to upgrade.  All security fixes have been backported though.  Only the vendorsub matters to addons.mozilla.org
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: well, I suppose you could get one of the daily builds of firefox, if you want =P
[12:40] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, how about --ignore-holds?
[12:40] <umar> i want to play online songs in firefox browser
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> umar: then get a plugin
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> there's plugins for mplayer, vlc, and xine
[12:40] <umar> i even installed real plugin
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> umar: NOT thAT ONE
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> =P
[12:41] <umar> then?
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> use mplayer or xine instead, for realplayer stuff
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> ill do a daily build if it will get rid of that package held back message
[12:41] <umar> wat if they playing media is rm
[12:41] <umar> real media
[12:41] <umar> then?
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> the forums have a thread on using xine with firefox.
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> umar: mplayer can do that.  And so can xine
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> I have yet to see vlc do realmedia, but people tell me it can too
[12:42] <umar> u mean first i have to download a plugin for xine to play real media
[12:42] <ru63> hiya, how can i check to see if powernowd is running?  I have typed 'grep powernowd' and it is hanging with the curser blinking
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> umar: you might need to get w32codecs from a backports mirror
[12:42] <umar> then i need to to have a plugin for firefox
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:42] <ubotu> I guess backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> comment out that mirror once you get it though
[12:44] <Fikrann> ru63, it's expecting you to type some text you want to search for 'powernowd' string.
[12:44] <Fikrann> ru63, press ctrl+D
[12:45] <ru63> Fikrann, thanks for the ctrl-d tip.. but i don't understand the string thing
[12:45] <Fikrann> ru63, read grep man page one day.
[12:45] <mik__> hello... I'm about installing mplayer-686 by synaptic. Why it need to install mplayer-586 too ?
[12:45] <umar> my sound card chip is not detected by ubuntu
[12:45] <ru63> Fkrann, ahh didn;t think of that... i will now.. thx
[12:45] <mik__> I can't understand thad
[12:45] <umar> wat i need to do to make work my sound car
[12:45] <umar> card
[12:46] <mik__> why mplayer-686 need mplayer-586 ??
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> mik__: mplayer-686 is a dummy package.  The build doesn't exist, so it grabs 586 instead
[12:46] <Fikrann> ru63, and the command you were looking for is ps ax | grep powernowd
[12:46] <marc> I dont think mplayer-686 exists, its just a dummy package
[12:46] <mik__> tiglionabbit, ooo thanks
[12:47] <znh> then why do they add -686 ..
[12:47] <ru63> Fikrann, thanks!
[12:47] <Redo> does anyone know any good documents about how to dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu?
[12:48] <mik__> well.. i had compiling by my self mplayer1.0pre7 - with gui.. by it doesn't work
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: it's not hard, I'm doing it right now
[12:48] <Redo> last time I did it with SuSE, I couldn't boot into WinXP
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: unless your bios is really old, grub sets everything up for you
[12:48] <Redo> never used Grub, only LiLO
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: how did you partition it?
[12:48] <mik__> in gui there is no all text
[12:48] <Redo> I don't remember, it was a long time ago
[12:48] <Redo> tiglionabbit: I have 3 NTFS patitions now
[12:48] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, ok I installed a nightly build
[12:48] <Redo> tiglionabbit: I can sacrifice one for Linux
[12:48] <ColonelKernel> says its deer park alpha
[12:49] <ColonelKernel> yippee
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> Redo: you know that you can't write to ntfs in linux, right?  fat32 can be used by both
[12:49] <Redo> tiglionabbit: should I take one of my NTFS partitions and pratition it into FAT32 and the rest into the linux install?
[12:49] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, that's not entirely true. You can use Captive ntfs driver; it's glacially slow, though.
[12:49] <mik__> ColonelKernel, deer park 2 is fast
[12:50] <mik__> ColonelKernel, faster than firefox from ubuntu package
[12:50] <x-unix> does anyone know how to create an admin group
[12:50] <Redo> I don't need to use NTFS if it will cause stability issues
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Redo: I suppose you could make a root partition that's ext3, and then a home partition that's fat32 so you can share it with windows
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> mik__, im noticing that
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> wow
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Redo: wont cause instability issues.  It's perfectly stable to Read from.  You just can't write to it too well
[12:50] <Redo> tiglionabbit: writing is half the fun ;)
[12:50] <moire> hi
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> and knowing is half the battle
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> GEE III JOOE
[12:51] <natu> how do i set path for root???
[12:51] <moire> how do i detect which printer port has my usb printer?
[12:51] <ColonelKernel> my ut2004 install stayed too
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> natu: what do you mean?
[12:51] <Fikrann> Redo, putting your /home on fat32 might break some stuff.
[12:51] <natu> i want to set ant home...to root path...
[12:51] <ColonelKernel> I didnt have to reinstall it
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> moire: lsusb
[12:51] <Fikrann> Mmmm... UT2k4
[12:51] <Redo> Fikrann: I was thinking of breaking a NTFS partition into a fat32 and the rest into exp3
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> wait, printer port?  uh
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> runs nice on linux even w/o shadows
[12:52] <natu> .....can..anyone...help...me
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> seems worth it not to deal with windows bugs
[12:52] <Redo> how does UT2004 run on linux?
[12:52] <lifeless> ~.
[12:52] <natu> i want to set a directory in the root path...
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> Redo, very nicely
[12:52] <action09> natu  don't ask to ask just ask
[12:52] <Redo> I can't wait until I get it going
[12:53] <x-unix> user@HOST:~$ grep admin /etc/group
[12:53] <x-unix> lpadmin:x:107:user
[12:53] <x-unix> i can't sudo, passwords dont work, and i never created one for sudo, just su and a user
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> natu: you mean /?  cd /
[12:53] <moire> tiglionabbit: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04e8:3252 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> Redo, you can even play it on a gf4mx440 and itll look pretty good
[12:53] <moire> what does it mean?
[12:53] <Redo> ColonelKernel, I have a 6600gt
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> Redo, I have a 6600 non gt and it runs like a champ
[12:53] <Fikrann> Redo, yes, if you need direct interoperability with windows, then you need fat32 partition. For linux, I'd suggest reiserfs or xfs, both are much more reliable than ext3
[12:53] <Redo> Fikrann, would you suggest reiserfs over xfs?
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: that doesn't sound good.  You may need to trick grub into booting you as root, and then add yourself to the admin group
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> what's good about reiserfs and xfs?
[12:54] <Redo> ColonelKernel, It runs great on my end too, but I'm sick of Windows
[12:54] <Fikrann> I would suggest xfs over reiser, unless you're running on laptop
[12:54] <Redo> ColonelKernel, Ubuntu runs 100x smoother on a LiveDVD then WinXP does on my hard drive
[12:54] <schasi> why reiser for the laptop?
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> Redo, lol
[12:55] <Redo> Fikrann, I'll use xfs then ;)
[12:55] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, xfs is faster and very reliable. reiserfs is almost as fast as xfs and only a bit less reliable.
[12:55] <moire> tiglionabbit: it does not work :(
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> Redo, you might want to just clean up your xp system, turn off unnneccesary services, use a low cpu resource virus scan tool, and defrag your drive with diskeeper pro
[12:55] <Fikrann> schasi, reiser works better with laptop-mode
[12:55] <mindspin> I would recommend ext2 for your home directory, cause if reiser is damaged you risk the lost of your data
[12:55] <ThreeDayMonk> since rebooting, my apache virtual hosts are broken :-(  I get pcfg_openfile errors on .htaccess files that are outside the DocumentRoot.  Any ideas?
[12:55] <mindspin> loss
[12:55] <Redo> ColonelKernel, I do all that stuff, but Ubuntu still runs smoother
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> that usually takes care of windows problems
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> yeah , im pretty impressed
[12:56] <flexs> how can i chage screen resolution, in resolution panel i have only 640x480 supported, but i want 1024x768, help ?
[12:56] <gore> hey all
[12:56] <Redo> I'm very impressed, especailly coming from SuSE, Fedora, and Mandrake
[12:56] <Redo> And naturally Windows :/
[12:57] <Fikrann> Redo, I have once overwritten first 100MB of my xfs partition .. and all I lost was 12MB of small files that were in /tmp.
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> flexs: you may need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[12:57] <gore> flexs get newdrivers
[12:57] <ubotu> I heard resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:58] <Redo> Fikrann, !!, does that mean you were lucky that nothing important was written in the first 100mb?
[12:58] <Fikrann> Redo, yes .. but the catch is, most file systems would be completely destroyed after such operation.
[12:58] <taomaster> is it safe to install the kde desktop in ubuntu thur the synaptic?
[12:58] <Fikrann> taomaster, yes.
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> taomaster: no no, get kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> !info kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[12:59] <Redo> Fikrann, I will definatly use xfs. Even though I'm not running any critical apps, I still love stability
[12:59] <CarinArr> hey, i have a bit of a problem. I've just installed ubuntu on my machine, and it seems to work fine, just i have a wireless belkin f5d7050 adapter, and no other network card available. i downloaded the ndiswrapper source and compiled it, and it seems to work okay, it accepts the drivers for the adapter, but when i do dmesg i get themessage that loadndiswrapper failed.. does anyone know where i can go from there
[12:59] <Fikrann> }:>
[12:59] <Redo> ;D
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> hmph - daily build doesnt work :P
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> you type in a url and you cant go to it lol
[01:00] <taomaster> fikrann  - thanx
[01:00] <taomaster> i'll give it a try
[01:00] <CarinArr> it makes it a bit annoying that i have to download everything using windows, then boot into linux to install things as i don't have network access from linux;)
[01:00] <mindspin> CariArr why that?
[01:01] <mindspin> ok got it
[01:01] <CarinArr> why what?
[01:01] <mindspin> no network access , but you explained it above...
[01:01] <Fikrann> CarinArr, you need to give some more details for anyone to be able to suggest any solution.
[01:01] <Fey> can anyone here help me with perl testing?
[01:02] <mindspin> i overread it
[01:02] <Redo> Fikrann, thanks for your help. I'm off to start backing up my data before I split this partition to Fat32 and xfs ;)
[01:02] <Fikrann> Redo, good luck }:
[01:02] <Fikrann> }:>
[01:02] <Redo> :D
[01:02] <CarinArr> fikrann, what sort of details are needed?
[01:03] <CarinArr> it says to check system logs for what goes wrong, but i don't know where to find em;)
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> well, I'm going to bed.  Wish you all luck with your linuxy thingamabob times
[01:03] <Fey> anyone here do perl?
[01:03] <flexs> how can i set /etc/X11/xorg.conf the default screen resolution....
[01:04] <mindspin> look in /var/log/syslog
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> Fey: A little
[01:04] <Fikrann> CarinArr, try dmesg
[01:04] <no0tic> hi
[01:04] <mindspin> Fey whats your problem?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> Fey: what's da question?
[01:04] <no0tic> I'm looking for gdkmm dev libs, where can I find them?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> mindspin: it's rude to ask people "what their problem" is
[01:04] <action09> flexs i'm not sure but i think it's the first resolution..   Modes           "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x854" "1280x800"  ....
[01:05] <mindspin> why that? I#m not a native english speaker?
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, you mean theres actually a channel on this network that CARES about rudeness?
[01:05] <Fey> I want the testsuite to report that a sub dies
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: this is ubuntu.  We're about humanity to others, dude
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, right on. I just found me a new distro
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> ?
[01:06] <Hieronymus> mindspin: 'what's your problem' is like 'hey, what do you want? fuck off!'
[01:06] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: you are one of the developers?
[01:06] <mindspin> ok,
[01:06] <Fey> I'm currently trying TDO: { ok(@list = &read_file("/whatever that doesn't exist"), 'succesfully crsahed"); }
[01:06] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, perhaps you are unaware of what a nightmare some of the other channels are.
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: nope, I'm just a guy with too much time on his hands
[01:06] <CarinArr> fikrann, i did, that's when i was told that loadndiswrapper fails
[01:06] <Hieronymus> !conduct
[01:06] <ubotu> [conduct]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[01:06] <mindspin> that's different in german ;-)
[01:06] <Adross> after install, how do i change the resolutions enabled by x?
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: it's alright if you know a little bit
[01:06] <Hieronymus> mindspin: It also is in Dutch ;-) I can understand
[01:06] <admin0> heh ?
[01:06] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: what makes ubuntu better than debian?
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: many people on freenode don't have patience for inexperienced linuxers
[01:07] <Hieronymus> mindspin: maybe something like 'what seems to be the problem'?
[01:07] <Fey> what I want is for the TODO part to say success and then continue
[01:07] <admin0> thegrok, just try it once.. you will notice the difference
[01:07] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, yeah and some of them are just kinda disturbed.
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: newer packages, simpler interfaces, guis, it's made for the casual desktop user, and uh, nice people!
[01:07] <Adross> anyone, x resolutions?
[01:07] <thegrok> admin0: actually debian gave me a better experince when i tried to install on a dell server
[01:07] <mindspin> sounds more ploite but I never thought about 'what's your problem?' is rude
[01:07] <mindspin> polite
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> mindspin: say "what's your question" instead then
[01:08] <bigfoot1> hello, i'm trying out Galeon since today. I would like to make it more life firefox. What's galeon's equivalent to Fx's extensions?
[01:08] <Fey> tiglionabbit : I'm currently trying TDO: { ok(@list = &read_file("/whatever that doesn't exist"), 'succesfully crsahed"); }
[01:08] <mindspin> what about where is the problem?
[01:08] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: i'm currently "coming" to you via my ubuntu gateway on my home LAN, every few days my connection slows....and i need to reboot
[01:08] <Adross> anyone, please?
[01:08] <mindspin> but this is rude if translated in german
[01:08] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: can't tell if it's gnome or firestarter or the kernel
[01:09] <Fikrann> brb
[01:09] <thegrok> hence i'm wondering if i should use debian instead =P
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: hmm.  I don't know what the problem is, but it could be with your router or ISP too.  Have you tried resetting your router and modem recently?
[01:10] <thegrok> nope, cause the problem went away after a reboot
[01:10] <bigfoot1> in Galeon, how can we make the "throbber" foot on the upper right corner point to our desired URL, rather than the galeon website?
[01:10] <thegrok> it could also be bt-gnome or amule since i did run those on and off
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: that doesn't necessarily mean it's not the modem's fault.  Breaking a connection can have that effect
[01:10] <mindspin> If a program is mot in the repositories, what would you recommend, compiling it from source or trying to get/build deb files?
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: I would suggest that you look at your ports, and run 'top' to see what processes are running too
[01:11] <neural_> what about backports for amd64? where can i find them?
[01:11] <admin0> Adross, you are not getting your x to work ?
[01:11] <mindspin> thegrok desktop or laptop?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> no galeon users here?
[01:11] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: will do, takes a few days to replicate...
[01:11] <thegrok> mindspin: come again?
[01:11] <admin0> system > preferences > screen resolution
[01:11] <mindspin> thegrok desktop or laptop?
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: oh, a few days...  I thought this was more of an immediate problem than that =P
[01:12] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: nope few days...hence i suspect something's leaking memory
[01:12] <mindspin> I had some networking issues while enabling acpi on my thinkpad
[01:12] <thegrok> mindspin: oh it's a desktop
[01:12] <thegrok> bbiab
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: well, if you suspect that, be sure to run system monitoring programs and look at what eats things up
[01:13] <Darh> Hi! Please write link is Ubuntu cd covers(sorry bad english)
[01:13] <xunix> need help with 5.04!!
[01:13] <Fey> mindspin: also, would you know how to read a directory in binarymode? I'm trying to open it like a file (open instead of opendir) and then set the reader to binarymode. Do you have any ideas on how to make it work?
[01:13] <Ruslan> shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <Ruslan> >Darh :)
[01:14] <mindspin> nope sorry
[01:14] <bojangles> man i heard people ordering and getting 30 CDs for ubuntu....where did they get all that stuff
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> xunix: what be the prob?
[01:14] <xunix> same problem
[01:14] <Darh> thx Ruslan
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: doesn't ubuntu.com list places that sell the CDs?
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> xunix: have you made yourself an admin yet?
[01:15] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, i don't know...i only heard about the 30 CDs...i have no idea what is even on them
[01:15] <xunix> yes i did
[01:15] <xunix> i created a new user with admin privl
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> xunix: okay, can you sudo and such now?  So what's the problem then?
[01:15] <xunix> no
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> really...  hmm, well you could edit the sudoers file manually with "visudo"
[01:16] <bojangles> boy that 2.6.12 kernel with IBM's DRM shit really sucks in Breezy
[01:16] <xunix> i can launch from terminal with SU only, update-manager or user-admin
[01:16] <xunix> but can't from gui interface
[01:16] <xunix> or from SUDO
[01:16] <ThreeDayMonk> this is weird.  My php4 module has disappeared since I deleted and reinstalled apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4.  The php files in mods-available are nowhere to be found.  How can I get them back?
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> xunix: that's weird.  Try and add yourself to the sudoers file.  man sudoers for more info
[01:17] <Ruslan> Sorry http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> xunix: I really don't know what could have caused it to mess up your default accounts like this though..
[01:18] <MsK`> bon app
[01:18] <mindspin> Fey I never used binmode cause its really tricky acording to programming perl
[01:18] <xunix> could it be the password strenght or additional language?
[01:18] <Darh> ruslan, im print covers searching...
[01:18] <xunix> i dunno
[01:19] <qt2> well wtf.
[01:19] <xunix> cause everything i did during install was standart
[01:20] <Fey> mindspin: oki. Thanks
[01:20] <qt2> is there something up with apt/synaptic...?
[01:20] <qt2> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:20] <qt2> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:20] <qt2> been getting lots of those lately... <.<;
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> xunix: well after you add yourself to sudoers, everything you've mentioned should work properly.  Very sorry it took you this much trouble to set up.  Ubuntu should do these things properly, usually
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> qt2: remove the "us" from those urls
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <mindspin> qt yesterday some people mentioned that the us mirrors are not working properly
[01:21] <qt2> oki.
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> er, "us." to be more concise
[01:21] <Darh> ubuntu cd front image, who is?
[01:21] <xunix> tiglionabbit:what is the location of sudoers file?
[01:21] <xunix> can i g edit it?
[01:21] <bojangles> now i did see one ubuntu dvd....but i don't know where or what is on 30 CDs
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> I mean not concise, uh..
[01:22] <qt2> i wonder what's up with the us mirrors...
[01:22] <bojangles> man that is 15 gigs
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> xunix: no, you must use visudo.  It actually runs nano
[01:22] <bojangles> and 15 gigs of free software is quite a lot
[01:22] <xunix> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: do you really want all those CDs?  Don't you have an internet connection?
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> xunix: get in su first
[01:23] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, i don't need any of them...i have more basic issues than to worry about ubuntu
[01:23] <mindspin> xunix what do you get when you type whoami
[01:23] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, they can worry about themselves.
[01:23] <sunrex> how do you install sound....and by sound i mean sound period...even if its just a little beep
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> sunrex: sound, well, first right-click on your volume thingy
[01:24] <sunrex> ok
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> hit properties, and for all devices listed (switch between them and do this for each) turn up the volume for master, PCM, and PC Speaker, and anything else that seems obvious
[01:25] <Whistler> why cant i copy or paste in terminal with ctrl+c ?
[01:25] <mindspin> take the middle button of your mouse
[01:25] <albacker> Whistler: shift+ctrl+c
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: because control-C is the command for close
[01:25] <albacker> try that.
[01:25] <aleksander> Hi, how to install apache1 ?
[01:26] <bojangles> Whistler, just use the X clipboard....highlight something and push both mouse buttons at same time....and then go to editor and push both again and all your terminal text will be in editor for printing
[01:26] <albacker> in gnome-terminal shift+ctrl+c works, in xterm, aterm, use the middle button
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> apache1?  Why not 2?
[01:26] <aleksander> because the script i have just work in 1
[01:26] <aleksander> ...
[01:26] <mindspin> maybe because of modperl?
[01:27] <aleksander> mindspin, talking to me?
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> =p guys, is there a backwardsports repository then?
[01:27] <mindspin> kinda, it was a guess why people like to install apache 1 instead of 2
[01:27] <mindspin> that was areason for me
[01:28] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, no...everyone is screwed because IBM is putting that DRM shit in kernel 2.6.12 and then they are already putting it in Breezy to screw everyone
[01:28] <hack_benjamin> anyone know what happened to transcode?
[01:28] <hack_benjamin> its not in the repositories any more
[01:28] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, and they have already subtley planted the TPM modules in many peoples computers today
[01:29] <aleksander> any one here who can hack msn adresses?
[01:29] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, especially laptops
[01:29] <aleksander> mindspin, is perlmod not installed at apache2?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: what are you talking about?
[01:29] <mindspin> modperl2 is not working properly for the applications i use
[01:30] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, that is why you can't trust the trusted computer group and free-hardware designs with free-hardware products as a result will  become ever important
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> anyone know where i can get transcode?
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> without tarballs
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> for amd64
[01:30] <aleksander> transcode?
[01:30] <aleksander> it is?
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> its not in the repositories any more..
[01:31] <neural_> yes is missing
[01:31] <aleksander> Where do I find Apache (1) ???
[01:31] <aleksander> brb
[01:32] <jtgameover> oh man this sucks, i can't install frozen bubble because some package can't be retrieved from the repository
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: really?  oh noes.  It installed for me though.  What's the exact error you get?
[01:32] <Fikrann> Ahhh.. joys of secure wireless connection.
[01:33] <jtgameover> "MD5Sum mismatch"
[01:33] <jtgameover> "failed to fetch archive.ubuntu.com/..../libsdl-consol_1.3-3_i386.deb"
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: are you using the us. repositories?  Edit your sources.list and delete the "us." part
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> oh
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> I guess not
[01:33] <jtgameover> oh i am
[01:33] <jtgameover> i will try that
[01:33] <sunrex> is there a guide somwere to install MYSQL to APACHE SERVER
[01:33] <jtgameover> what's the difference?
[01:34] <Hoxzer> is it possibel to install Linux ubuntu to S-ata HDD without diskette driver?
[01:34] <bojangles> they are really going to fuck all the people over and to the max with breezy if it keeps that kernel with that DRM shit in it
[01:34] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: back, what system monitoring utilities are those?
[01:34] <bojangles> since they have already been putting TPM modules in their computers secretly and behind everyone's back
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: I just suggested using top, or apps->system tools-> system monitor
[01:36] <sunrex> is there a guide to install my sql on apatche servers?
[01:36] <Whistler> yep
[01:36] <Whistler> use google.com
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> k, now I sleep.  At 4:36am.  wow.
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> gnite everyone
[01:37] <Fikrann> Sleep well tiglionabbit
[01:37] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: ooh much nicer than top....thanks
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: =p whatchoo talkin about, top is fun too.  lol
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> anyway, see you all later, probably tomorrow.  bye
[01:37] <thegrok> bb
[01:38] <bojangles> ubuntu will have to think of a new name...instead of for humanity...it will stand for "We are here to fuck you over with our new DRM'd kernels in Breezy to activate your TPM modules"
[01:38] <Fikrann> bojangles, you might want to petition kernel drivers to remove TPM, DRM, crypto support....
[01:39] <bojangles> Fikrann, hey it ain't none of my business.....what they decide to do, they do!...I work on my own stuff
[01:40] <Fikrann> So stop bitching here, as well. If you don't like drm, compile your own kernel without it. Or better, switch distro.
[01:40] <jtgameover> so what kind of cool packages do people have running?
[01:40] <jtgameover> besides xmms, xine, aterm...
[01:40] <Fikrann> gkrellm!
[01:40] <ColonelKernel> can anyone help me make the sun java environment my systems java enviornment? I cant seem to find the "alternatives" package
[01:40] <bojangles> Fikrann, that is exactly what i am doing now...i just finally got a compile on mig to get some glue
[01:41] <xunix> what is the url for additional software like codecs for ubuntu?
[01:43] <Fikrann> xunix, use hoary-extras repo
[01:43] <Fikrann> !backports
[01:43] <ubotu> backports is, like, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:43] <Whistler> !packages
[01:43] <ubotu> packages is probably http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:46] <GNULinuxer> !all_nude_installation_services
[01:46] <ubotu> GNULinuxer: No idea
[01:46] <GNULinuxer> lol
[01:47] <Heimdall_linux> hey
[01:47] <Fikrann> Hello
[01:47] <GNULinuxer> Heimdall_linux: hi
[01:48] <ColonelKernel> how do I make a symlink that acts as if it is in the dir it is symlinked from?
[01:49] <joe> hiya I installed kubuntu, and my mum wants to use XPDE, I donwloaded it and extracted to /usr/share/xpde, how do I go making it the default window manager for her account rather than KDE?
[01:50] <dackmilliken> hello, I need some help
[01:51] <dackmilliken> I keep getting MD5sum mismatch errors when trying to download stuff via apt-get from us.archive.ubuntu
[01:52] <schasi> google will kindly help you
[01:52] <schasi> If you throw the error messages at it
[01:52] <dackmilliken> I have searched google
[01:52] <schasi> I fixed the same Problem yesterday
[01:52] <dackmilliken> what other repositories do you use?
[01:52] <bigfoot1> galeon users: how can we open up Could not open the file "/usr/share/doc/galeon-common/README.ExtraPrefs.gz"?
[01:52] <schasi> i use the standard debian sid and ftp.nerim.net
[01:52] <dackmilliken> how did you fix the problem?
[01:52] <Fikrann> dackmilliken, don't use us archives. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove 'us.' from your lines.
[01:53] <dackmilliken> I did that fikrann
[01:53] <dackmilliken> didn't work :(
[01:53] <schasi> i search google with the error message
[01:53] <joe> Any ideas on how to change the default window manager to XPDE on an account
[01:53] <bigfoot1> sorry, how can we open up the file "/usr/share/doc/galeon-common/README.ExtraPrefs.gz? I've tried both UTF and Western character encoding, but neither work.
[01:53] <Fikrann> dackmilliken, did you reload your package listings?
[01:53] <schasi> of course i excluded things that change like the url before searching
[01:53] <dackmilliken> how do you do that fikrann?
[01:53] <dackmilliken> sorry I am a n00b at linux :(
[01:54] <Fikrann> after you edit your sources.list you need to either click reload in synaptic or run apt-get update
[01:54] <dackmilliken> yes I did that
[01:54] <schasi> which doesnt fix the problem
[01:54] <schasi> gimme the error message
[01:54] <Ixion83> Hi :) The ubuntu foundation will be use by Kubuntu or not ?
[01:55] <admin0> btw, what do backports do ?
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: i have the solution
[01:55] <admin0> i mean additional packages ?
[01:55] <dackmilliken> yes??
[01:55] <Hieronymus> !backports
[01:55] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: just change all us.archive.ubuntu.com to just arcchive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <dackmilliken> I have tried that
[01:56] <dackmilliken> :'(
[01:56] <Ixion83> Hi :) The ubuntu foundation will be use by Kubuntu or not ?
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: well, after that you need to apt-get update
[01:56] <dackmilliken> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  MD5Sum mismatch  << error message with address removed
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: what do you mean?
[01:57] <dackmilliken> I will try again GNULinuxer
[01:57] <dackmilliken> brb
[01:57] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer : Kubuntu will use Ubuntu Foundation for develop ?
[01:57] <joe> Ixion83, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: Kubuntu is a *different* project
[01:57] <joe> you can always download ubuntu and install kde manually
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: it's as different as Ubuntu and Debian is
[01:57] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer different but it will use Ubuntu Foundation money or not ?
[01:58] <Shinaku> Hey
[01:58] <Hieronymus> Hey
[01:58] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: it will not get any money ... using the money is a different issue
[01:58] <joe> or wait for the kubuntu to bring out the next release (im guessing that'll follow a few days after the official ubuntu release)
[01:58] <Shinaku> I am wanting to install some things from a Debian x86 repository onto an Ubuntu AMD64 machine
[01:58] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer ubuntu use money :)
[01:58] <Shinaku> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://soulmachine.net debian/unstable Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/soulmachine.net_dists_debian_unstable_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:59] <mjr> Shinaku, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:59] <Shinaku> That's the error I get, can I force it somehow to use the x86's source list?
[01:59] <bigfoot1> any galeon users here?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:00] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> ubotu: chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:00] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[02:00] <marc> Anyone know where I can get good deals on Laptops in the UK?  Or even futher suggest the best laptop i can get for around the 700 mark?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:00] <dackmilliken> hey thanks guys, that fixed my problem..sorry for being a n00b
[02:00] <Hieronymus> ubotu: good bot!
[02:00] <ubotu> thanks hieronymus :)
[02:00] <Nefarous> Trying to speed up boottime on my laptop, can't find ifplugd in the apt-cache, am I missing something obvious (using hoary)
[02:01] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: try to find it on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: maybe it's in universe
[02:01] <Hieronymus> !packages
[02:01] <ubotu> from memory, packages is http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:02] <Nefarous> thanks, it' in universe (ifplugd)
[02:02] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: well, add universe then
[02:02] <Hieronymus> !sources
[02:02] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:02] <Hieronymus> !repositories
[02:02] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:03] <marc> I want this laptop, but its out of stock argh :(  http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0718902634.1120910113@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdhaddfdijlkmkcflgceggdhhmdgmi.0&page=Product&sku=738534
[02:04] <Shinaku> I work there
[02:04] <Shinaku> Well, I have an interview arranged
[02:04] <thegrok> !apt-get
[02:04] <ubotu> methinks apt-get is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:04] <Shinaku> I wouldn't buy anything from them though
[02:04] <mpmc> I cannot access the proftpd webadmin because i don't know the root password :|
[02:05] <Fikrann> mpmc, that's because there is none, most probably, and root account on your machine is disabled.
[02:06] <Hieronymus> Fikrann: not disabled, just no password
[02:06] <Hieronymus> (-l)
[02:06] <marc> from who?
[02:06] <Fikrann> then do sudo passwd and set your root password.
[02:06] <marc> Shinaku, from who?
[02:07] <no0tic> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM what flag is SM ?? what library refers to?
[02:07] <Hieronymus> Fikrann: better to do sudo passwd root, just in case
[02:07] <Fikrann> Hieronymus, true.
[02:07] <Hieronymus> sudo is kind of... stupid/weird
[02:07] <Fikrann> I like it.
[02:07] <Hieronymus> !rootpasswd
[02:07] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:08] <adwait> hey ppl
[02:08] <HappyFool> !sudo
[02:08] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:08] <mjr> no0tic, I think it was the session management lib
[02:08] <marc> Anyone using HL2 under cedega?
[02:08] <Fikrann> sudo bash is your friend
[02:08] <adwait> *fixed
[02:08] <no0tic> mjr: thanks!
[02:08] <mjr> no0tic, not sure tho
[02:08] <HappyFool> sudo -i or sudo -s -H might be better
[02:08] <Hieronymus> ubotu: rootpasswd is to set up a root password, use sudo passwd root
[02:08] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[02:08] <Fikrann> marc, I wish I had machine powerful enough ...
[02:08] <Hieronymus> !rootpasswd
[02:08] <ubotu> hmm... rootpasswd is to set up a root password, use sudo passwd root
[02:09] <Hieronymus> good bot
[02:09] <mjr> no0tic, well, I was right
[02:09] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[02:09] <ubotu> :)
[02:09] <adwait> hehehe
[02:09] <marc> Fikrann, :(  I was wondering the speed differences between cedega and native windows
[02:09] <mpmc> E: gforge-ldap-openldap:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:09] <mpmc> what the hell
[02:10] <Fikrann> marc, I guess there's 20~50% speed decrease.
[02:10] <no0tic> mjr: thanks, it was; compiled succesfully
[02:11] <marc> I need a new wallpaper
[02:11] <Hieronymus> marc: ubuntu-calendar, but I think it's dead
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubuntucalendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu-calendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Wish i knew
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubcalendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I haven't a clue
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ub-calendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:13] <marc> Hieronymus, yes its dead :(
[02:13] <marc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Ubuntu-calendar
[02:13] <Hieronymus> marc: any 'official' announcement for that?
[02:14] <dtygel> hi friends: I cannot record: I cannot make the microphone work... some idea? I Alsa it says it cannot open "default", and in "esd" nothing happens... I'm using soundblaster16 (old sound card)
[02:14] <Panzerboy> hey all
[02:14] <marc> Anyone happen to have the OS X panther wallpaper?
[02:14] <adwait> hey Panzerboy
[02:14] <marc> I remember liking that
[02:14] <Panzerboy> i'm following the ubuntu guide
[02:14] <Panzerboy> and i see there the backports repo
[02:14] <Fikrann> marc, Like that? http://www.rikanise.net/gallery/screenshots/screendump.l.005.jpg/zphoto_view }:>
[02:14] <Panzerboy> i've added it
[02:14] <adwait> !backports
[02:14] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:15] <Panzerboy> and now it wants me to do an dist-upgrade
[02:15] <Hieronymus> !ubguide
[02:15] <ubotu> ubguide is probably Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[02:15] <Hieronymus> Panzerboy: Read what ubotu said
[02:15] <marc> Fikrann, wtf is that :P
[02:15] <Panzerboy> i am now, thanks
[02:16] <marc> !love
[02:16] <ubotu> somebody said love was life
[02:16] <Fikrann> marc, a well done fantasy pic. }:>
[02:16] <dtygel> does someone here know how to make a microphone work? I need to use skype... :(
[02:16] <adwait> philosopihical bot!
[02:16] <Hieronymus> dtygel: have you tried volume settings etc?
[02:16] <dtygel> hieronymus: yes... mic is on...
[02:17] <Fikrann> dtygel, you need to unmute few things in the mixer
[02:17] <dtygel> fikrann: I guess I unmuted everything...
[02:17] <marc> Fikrann, Its probably the mic capture level
[02:17] <Hieronymus> alright, what if you launch a record program and blow in the mic real hard? Does this raise the amplitude?
[02:17] <marc> dtygel, run alsamixer
[02:17] <adwait> dtygel: right click volume button on panel and in the capture tab...tryied tht
[02:17] <adwait> ?
[02:17] <Fikrann> dtygel, you might need to use the mixer preferences to get it to show all channels
[02:17] <marc> dtygel, Tab to the capture pane, and increase Mic, and lower PCM to zero
[02:18] <dtygel> I can hear the mic in alsamixer, when I push the volume high
[02:18] <marc> dtygel, What do you mean you can hear the mic?
[02:18] <dtygel> but then nothing happens in skype...
[02:18] <taomaster> is the java install in the synaptic package manager?
[02:18] <Fikrann> dtygel, have you killed esd?
[02:18] <dtygel> marc: I run alsamixer...
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: and then I turn high the "mic" volume,
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: and then I can hear the sound when I talk in the mic.
[02:19] <marc> dtygel, Thats just the mic output
[02:19] <Fikrann> dtygel, you might want to look for "+20 dB mic boost"
[02:19] <dtygel> but wehen I run the sound recorder, it fials...
[02:19] <marc> dtygel, You need to tab to the CAPTURE pane and increase the mic there
[02:19] <Panzerboy> Hieronymus: however i don't get it, where exactly in the ubuntuguide is this wrong information?
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: I did it.
[02:19] <dtygel> to no avail :(
[02:19] <Panzerboy> basically all that's said there is: don't go to that site, come to the wiki
[02:20] <Panzerboy> i am not criticising, i am just trying to understand what's wrong in the guide
[02:20] <Hieronymus> Panzerboy: not all information in the ubuntu guide is wrong, but it doesn't explain you what you're doing, and the wiki explains stuff better
[02:20] <Hieronymus> !wiki
[02:20] <dtygel> soundrecorder simply crashes... do you understand? it's some misconfiguration for the input...
[02:21] <liz4rd> whats the name of the package for the windows movie codecs?
[02:21] <Panzerboy> Hieronymus: i see
[02:21] <Fikrann> dtygel, have you stopped esd?
[02:21] <marc> liz4rd, w32codecs I think
[02:21] <Panzerboy> well, i am not a newbie, so i guess i can use the guide :)
[02:21] <Panzerboy> cause i understand what's there :)
[02:21] <dtygel> fikram: no, it's working ok
[02:21] <Fikrann> skype won't work if esd is running.
[02:21] <dtygel> fikrann: but without esd how can I use the mic?
[02:22] <Panzerboy> i just wanted to know if the backports are safe to use, but I can see it written in those guidelines
[02:22] <dtygel> fikrann: alsa doesn't work for me when I set it in "multimedia selector" in preferences menu...
[02:22] <Fikrann> simply use. Skype won't get to the mic with esd running
[02:22] <marc> Skype likes my mic :)
[02:23] <marc> I cant stop calling echo123 all day
[02:23] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:23] <marc> That women doesnt mind chatting to me all day
[02:23] <CarinArr> i'm trying to install a belkin wireless adapter (f5d7050), using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers.. but i get an 'oops' from the kernel and dmesg says: Windows driver is not 64-bit; bad magic: 010B
[02:23] <CarinArr> ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:523): unable to prepare driver 'rt2500usb'
[02:23] <CarinArr> Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000010
[02:23] <dtygel> marc and fikrann: ok, how do I kill esd? by "kill" or using a command?
[02:23] <CarinArr> er sorry didn't mean to splitthat over several lines
[02:23] <ptlo> Fikrann: on skype web pages i've found info that skype works with esd if you're running it with esddsp (http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html). i haven't tried it yet because i'm just now in the process of getting the mic :)
[02:24] <CarinArr> is it basically saying that the problem's cause by me trying to use a 32 bit driver on a 64 bit system? cause afaik there aren't any 64 bit drivers for my adapter
[02:24] <Hieronymus> CarinArr: I think that's what it's saying
[02:24] <marc> dtygel, Gconf /desktop/gnome/sound/enable_esd and set it to false
[02:25] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's a way to use the 32 bit driver without actually reverting to 32 bit ubuntu?
[02:25] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:25] <ubotu> well, chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:25] <Hieronymus> maybe that
[02:25] <Hieronymus> (not sure)
[02:25] <marc> !chicken
[02:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, chicken is what people think it tastes like
[02:25] <adwait> "it"
[02:25] <adwait> ?
[02:25] <dtygel> marc, thanks: I'll check it...
[02:26] <Fikrann> ptlo, thank you!
[02:26] <Hieronymus> ubotu forget chicken
[02:26] <ubotu> i forgot chicken, Hieronymus
[02:26] <dtygel> ptlo: I will try the esddsp... must install it first, right?
[02:26] <marc> Argh, I thought wohoo, desktop images from the russian womens network
[02:27] <marc> But no, they are images contributed by russian women who use computers
[02:27] <marc> ARGH :(
[02:27] <CarinArr> thanks Hieronymus
[02:27] <ptlo> dtygel: it's in the esound-clients package
[02:27] <ptlo> also, re skype: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21186.html (someone reported it had trouble running esddsp on hoary...)
[02:27] <Fikrann> marc, poor you }:>
[02:28] <sunrex> good..finnaly got my website up
[02:28] <dtygel> ptlo: thanks again...
[02:29] <marc> Fikrann, Tell me about it, first the laptop i want is out of stock and now i cant find a wallpaper.  And to top it all off Gnome still will not let me use OS X application menu behaviours :(
[02:29] <sunrex> ok i have 0 sound is there anything i can do about this, i have Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit
[02:30] <Fikrann> marc, awww.
[02:30] <marc> sunrex, Try this
[02:30] <bojangles>  ptlo why post that old stuff about artsdsp or esddsp...that was yesterday's solution.....everybody today is moving to a polyaudio approach
[02:30] <marc> sunrex, actually ignore me
[02:30] <sunrex> ?
[02:30] <sunrex> marc: why..
[02:30] <ptlo> bojangles, well then i'm a yesterdays guy...i haven't heard about polyaudio .. any pointers?
[02:31] <Hoxzer> ;)
[02:32] <marc> sunrex, ok lets try
[02:32] <adwait> friends, romans and country bumpkins.............if i edit the resolv.conf, does the computer immidietly start using the new DNS servers?
[02:32] <marc> sunrex, you in Gnome?
[02:32] <sunrex> marc: im in what came with the disk lol...not sure really....i downloaded it i didint change anything
[02:32] <dtygel> ptlo, marc: well: when I kill esd, skype works (it doesn't hang), but the mic doesn't work :( I'm testing echo123 to no avail)
[02:32] <ptlo> bojangles, oh, found it... although it seems to me on the first glance (on the ubuntuforums) that it's far from complete
[02:32] <adwait> friends, romans and country bumpkins.............if i edit the resolv.conf, does the computer immidietly start using the new DNS servers?.....somebody?anybody?
[02:33] <dtygel> ptlo: and I read that esddsp doesn't work in hoary...
[02:33] <marc> sunrex, look in the top right corner, should be a small speaker symbol, does it look muted?
[02:33] <sunrex> marc: theres no speaker symbol
[02:33] <marc> dtygel, My skype worked on a default hoary install.. mhmm other than checking the mic capture levels in alsamixers, which you said you already did Im not sure
[02:34] <marc> sunrex, not one next to the date?
[02:34] <marc> sunrex, di you install ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:34] <bimberi> adwait: yes
[02:34] <sunrex> marc: im not sure my desktop looks like the ones in the photos
[02:34] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:34] <WhiteRabbit> sunrex, in a console use alsamixer & hit m on the audigy jack
[02:34] <Fikrann> adwait, yes, it does
[02:34] <dtygel> marc: and worse of all: sounds only work with esd enabled. But then will skype hang. And if I turn esd off, skype works but not the mic...
[02:35] <marc> WhiteRabbit, Hes not using an audigy tho?
[02:35] <adwait> thx Fikrann billytwowilly
[02:35] <adwait> *bimberi
[02:35] <bimberi> adwait: btw you can use "nslookup" to see which nameserver is geing used
[02:35] <WhiteRabbit> marc, sunrex ok i have 0 sound is there anything i can do about this, i have Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit... ;)~ ....
[02:35] <Fikrann> dtygel, try running skype with esddsp
[02:35] <BiSK-8> i started to extract and compile a tar.gz file but didn't finish. Now on my desktop there is a folder that i cant delete. How could i delete it?
[02:35] <sunrex> marc: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/ubuntu3.png
[02:35] <bimberi> adwait: np :)
[02:35] <adwait> bimberi: :)
[02:36] <Hieronymus> sunrex: gnome
[02:36] <BiSK-8> any1 know?
[02:36] <marc> sunrex, Ok in a console, type alsamixer,  Goto audigy analogue/digital output jack and press m on it
[02:36] <bojangles> and anyway why all this talk about skype...that was yesterday's stuff they have a new free software project where the code will be release
[02:36] <sunrex> alsamixer
[02:36] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: who 'owns' the folder?
[02:36] <dtygel> fikrann: in hoary esddsp doesn't work... I think it's some misconfiguration of my old soundcard: it's a soundblaster16... oh god... that's complicated :(
[02:37] <marc> Skype is from the same people that brought you kazaa :P
[02:37] <sunrex> marc: u mean terminal?
[02:37] <BiSK-8> hieronymous: 667
[02:37] <Hieronymus> bojangles: what new free software project?
[02:37] <bojangles> i hear the new project will use a sip approach and release the software as GPL
[02:37] <marc> sunrex, yes i do :)
[02:37] <Hieronymus> marc: yes, remember the spyware?
[02:37] <Hieronymus> marc: and it's non-free binary-only
[02:37] <Hieronymus> bojangles: sip is nice
[02:37] <marc> Hieronymus, Yep :) and the adware, and the endless amounts of mps and pr0n i downloaded :)
[02:38] <marc> mp3's :P
[02:38] <Hieronymus> bojangles: are you perhaps talking about gizmo? That's not free
[02:38] <sunrex> marc: so just plain old alsamixer? couse it says file not found
[02:38] <marc> sunrex, just type  alsamixer
[02:38] <BiSK-8> hieronymus: 667
[02:38] <sunrex> marc: tyler@Darkworks:~$ alsamixer
[02:38] <sunrex> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:38] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[02:38] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: man chmod and figure what that means
[02:40] <marc> might need alsaconf :/ but you will need to download that
[02:40] <sunrex> marc: ..lol
[02:40] <marc> I dunno :P
[02:40] <marc> whos got skype?
[02:40] <marc> I wanna call someone
[02:40] <sunrex> marc: i dont need to do that in root terminal do i
[02:40] <HappyFool> sunrex: do you know what sounds card you have?
[02:40] <HappyFool> sound card, even
[02:40] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:40] <sunrex> HappyFool: SoundBlaster LIVE! 24-bit
[02:40] <HappyFool> sunrex: take a look here if you do: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[02:41] <marc> Give me you skype id Fikrann  :P
[02:41] <HappyFool> sunrex: according to that page you need the latest alsa
[02:41] <sunrex> thks
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it possible to transmit with beep media player?
[02:41] <dtygel> marc and ptlo: I'm testing the input source in the "multimedia systems selector"
[02:41] <sunrex> what drive
[02:42] <dtygel> marc and ptlo and fikrann: with alsa, I get the following error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'"
[02:42] <sunrex> HappyFool: which one
[02:42] <HappyFool> sunrex: i don't know. you can read this page for installing alsa (but for a different card)
[02:42] <sunrex> happyfool:  ca0106 ?
[02:43] <HappyFool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:43] <HappyFool> sunrex: on the wiki page? stand by...
[02:43] <dtygel> marc, ptlo and fikrann: and in esd it crashes after recording. But it works...
[02:43] <HappyFool> sunrex: that's the entry i was referring to, yes
[02:43] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: you can use !wiki to let ubotu help you with wiki pages
[02:43] <marc> dtygel, ew, sounds nasty
[02:43] <HappyFool> oh?
[02:43] <sunrex> HappyFool: thks ill try this then
[02:44] <dtygel> marc: :(
[02:44] <HappyFool> !wiki BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: yes, you should "help" in a private chat with it once
[02:44] <Hieronymus> what the hell, he's not functioning
[02:44] <Fikrann> marc, you don't want to chat with me .. I'm currently quite sick and having someone cough in your ear is probably not what you want.
[02:44] <Hieronymus> !bad bot1
[02:44] <ubotu> Hieronymus: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:44] <Hieronymus> !bad bot!
[02:44] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Are you smoking crack?
[02:45] <Fikrann> heh
[02:45] <sunrex> HappyFool: sould i just go with the wiki page u gave me and see if that works?
[02:45] <marc> you have esd-alsa installed?
[02:45] <HappyFool> sunrex: you will need to change the instructions slightly -- that second page is for a different sort of card
[02:46] <HappyFool> sunrex: try the 'configure' option without specifying a card type
[02:46] <marc> oh dtygel left :(
[02:46] <HappyFool> sunrex: additionally, the procedure described will overwrite files installed by the linux-image-* package; i don't know what will happen if/when this package is upgraded
[02:47] <marc> Anyone suggest a real nice multiplayer game?
[02:47] <mindspin> freeciv
[02:47] <marc> Anything a little faster paced?
[02:48] <bojangles> Hieronymus, yes it is called ProjGizmo...and they will release the code for absolutely free in August for Linux....so everyone can steal it for themselves....i saw a news article on it....they want to drive skype out of business
[02:48] <ColonelKernel> doom3 runs far better w ubuntu than windows
[02:48] <Hieronymus> bojangles: free as in speech, I hope?
[02:48] <bojangles> Hieronymus, plus gaim has made plans for this summer to have their own VOIP stuff with sip that can also pierce the NAT firewalls
[02:49] <Hieronymus> die, Skype!
[02:49] <marc> Skypes probably already achieved what it was intended for, so i doubt they will mind
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: scorched3d (not terribly fast, admittedly)
[02:49] <Hieronymus> !motugames
[02:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, motugames is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGames
[02:49] <marc> HappyFool, Anything like soldat?
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: no
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: turn-based
[02:49] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me with the installation of a tar.gz program?
[02:49] <marc> HappyFool, Nono, i know scorched3d is like scorched earth, but is there any game like soldat available?
[02:49] <Fikrann> marc, besides, I just realised that I've no fsck'ing idea what my skype handle was.
[02:50] <HappyFool> oh, i see
[02:50] <HappyFool> marc: sorry, i don't know
[02:50] <marc> HappyFool, kk
[02:50] <marc> Fikrann, Bah :P
[02:50] <sunrex> ..
[02:50] <HappyFool> there are lots of games in universe/multiverse
[02:50] <sunrex> HappyFool: were is the soundcore module?
[02:50] <marc> Anyone let me skype em?
[02:51] <HappyFool> sunrex: in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/* somewhere
[02:51] <sunrex> HappyFool: thks
[02:51] <HappyFool> sunrex: try 'locate soundcore.ko'  -- i get /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
[02:51] <marc> No linux version of gizmo until next month argh :(
[02:52] <Chetic> Is there a decent free flight simulator?
[02:52] <bojangles> Hieronymus, it is all very good news...that all the source code will be released for free as GPL...so that the free-hardware manufacturers will not suffer the high cost of paying programmers....and can distribute their free hardware designs less expensively...perhaps some in the form of mobile devices even
[02:52] <HappyFool> flightgear is pretty good
[02:52] <Fikrann> Chetic, if you don't mind flying old airplanes, check out Sabre
[02:52] <sunrex> HappyFool:i found it but how do i turn it on..
[02:52] <marc> And, project gizmo is from the same guy that brought us lindows/linspire ARGH think id rather stay with the kazaa/skype boys :P
[02:52] <HappyFool> Chetic: but no combat support. not sure what you want
[02:53] <HappyFool> sunrex: 'modprobe soundcore'
[02:53] <Chetic> yeah I'm not looking for combat, just want to fly a plane
[02:53] <sunrex> HappyFool:?
[02:53] <Chetic> thanks HappyFool & Fikrann
[02:53] <HappyFool> sunrex: what is your question?
[02:53] <marc> Chetic, Check out gl-117
[02:53] <Fikrann> Chetic, then flightgear's better .. the graphics is somewhat on the simple side.
[02:53] <sunrex> HappyFool:it says i have to turn it on..but i cant open it so how do i turn it on
[02:53] <Chetic> k marc
[02:53] <marc> more of an action game than a simulator tho
[02:54] <sunrex> HappyFool:2) You must turn on sound support (soundcore module).
[02:54] <Chetic> :\
[02:54] <bojangles> Hieronymus, and neither will they have to pay programmers nor patent royalties....or copyright fees or anything else.
[02:54] <HappyFool> sunrex: turn what on? Where are you reading these instructions?
[02:54] <Fikrann> gl-117 is highly action game.
[02:54] <js_> sunrex: run alsaconf
[02:54] <HappyFool> js_: alsaconf is not included in ubuntu, afaik
[02:54] <BiSK-8> can u ppl tell me all the applications i need to install a .tar.gz program. (apps that i can get by sudo apt-get)
[02:55] <bojangles> Hieronymus, this is exactly why RMS personally wrote GNUscape Navigator to put the expensive Netscape Navigator programmers out of business
[02:55] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: build-essential
[02:55] <HappyFool> BiSK-8: if you wish to install from source, you will need an appropriate compiler, and libraries
[02:55] <BiSK-8> k
[02:55] <BiSK-8> thanks
[02:55] <sunrex> HappyFool:on here..ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ well i got the driver off it and it came with file
[02:55] <BiSK-8> how di i get em?
[02:56] <HappyFool> BiSK-8: try installing build-essential, and see how far you get
[02:56] <marc> BiSK-8,  apt-get install build-essential
[02:56] <BiSK-8> i already did
[02:56] <HappyFool> 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[02:56] <Fikrann> BiSK-8, you will probably need linux-headers for your kernel.
[02:56] <HappyFool> sunrex: the alsa page has instructions per card, afaik
[02:56] <Chetic> What about driving simulators(/games)? Are there any good ones?
[02:57] <BiSK-8> how do i get em?
[02:57] <sunrex> HappyFool:?
[02:57] <Fikrann> HappyFool, they aren't very useful for a noob.
[02:57] <Hieronymus> Chetic: torcs
[02:57] <Chetic> hm k
[02:57] <Fikrann> Chetic, torcs works but it crashes after one race for me.
[02:58] <Chetic> :\
[02:58] <BiSK-8> can i pm any1?
[02:58] <BiSK-8> (any1 willing 2 help me)
[02:58] <marc> I dont like Torcs, its about as fun as a steam ship simulator
[02:58] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:58] <Hieronymus> marc: true :)
[02:58] <marc> BiSK-8, type in the console uname -r
[02:58] <Chetic> what? lol
[02:59] <BiSK-8> ???
[02:59] <HappyFool> sunrex: see here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+LS.&chip=SB0310%2C+P17&module=ca0106
[02:59] <BiSK-8> why should i?
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: what does 'lsmod|grep ^soundcore' say?
[03:00] <sunrex> HappyFool:i had it a few secs before..
[03:00] <sunrex> HappyFool:what u mean
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: type that command in the terminal
[03:00] <Chetic> Any other simulators? I really feel like simulating right now :p
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: and tell me what the output is
[03:00] <marc> BiSK-8, so you can tell me what kernel your using :P
[03:00] <sunrex> nothing happend
[03:00] <sunrex> u mean in root terminal?
[03:01] <HappyFool> no, any terminal
[03:01] <sunrex> nothing happend then
[03:01] <HappyFool> sunrex: how about 'modprobe soundcore' ?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:01] <sunrex> HappyFool:tyler@Darkworks:~$ modprobe soundcore
[03:01] <sunrex> FATAL: Error inserting soundcore (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:01] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[03:01] <HappyFool> sunrex: sorry, 'sudo modprobe soundcore'
[03:02] <Hieronymus> !info torcs
[03:02] <ubotu> torcs: (3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2325 kB, Installed size: 29824 kB
[03:02] <BiSK-8> i'm using the cernel that comes with the last ubuntu
[03:02] <Chetic> Hieronymus, you know any other simulators? :p
[03:02] <sunrex> HappyFool:tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> Password:
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[03:02] <HappyFool> only once
[03:03] <anatole_> re
[03:03] <HappyFool> and please don't paste more than two lines here
[03:03] <marc> BiSK-8, Your system x86?
[03:03] <sunrex> HappyFool: i did nothing happend
[03:03] <anatole_> anyone could help, if this ubuntu box is the server, how to avoid windows clients from getting internet? i'd like to use networking though
[03:03] <BiSK-8> i386, yep
[03:03] <Fikrann> sunrex, modprobe will not display anything if it succeeded.
[03:03] <sunrex> so...all i need is the driver then lol
[03:03] <HappyFool> sunrex: soundcore appears to be working as desired
[03:03] <capi_> how do you accept input in a bash cmd? like `./script input' ?
[03:04] <BiSK-8> marc: i386, yep
[03:04] <sven-tek_gaim> anatole_ many ways to do it, most simple would be a passworded proxy server
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: no
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: but gl-117 is a cool flight game
[03:04] <HappyFool> sunrex: try to follow the instructions on the alsa page
[03:04] <anatole_> sven-tek_gaim: and how to do that? is there a howto for it?
[03:04] <Gourami> Hi, does anyone know how I can stop my external monitor from blanking when I close the laptops lid ?
[03:04] <capi_> *bash scripting file, not bash cmd
[03:04] <Fikrann> anatole, install shorewall, then follow howtos on http://shorewall.net/
[03:04] <marc> BiSK-8, apt-get install linux-headers-386
[03:04] <sunrex> HappyFool: i will...what driver do i need =/
[03:04] <Chetic> :\
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: it can also be used in 'simulator mode' but I don't know if it's really a sim
[03:04] <HappyFool> capi_: use $1 for the first parameter -- is that what you mean?
[03:04] <Chetic> I don't like the graphics..
[03:04] <HappyFool> sunrex: ca0106, afaict
[03:05] <capi_> yes,  thats what I was lokign for. :)
[03:05] <sunrex> HappyFool:but were do i get it..i got the page...but theres no downloads
[03:05] <HappyFool> sunrex: there's a download link at the top of the page
[03:05] <BiSK-8> marc, i'm done
[03:05] <HappyFool> sunrex: you don't just download one driver; you download the whole of alsa, i believe
[03:06] <sven-tek_gaim> anatole_: you can use apache or what ever proxy server
[03:06] <BiSK-8> it still gives me error
[03:06] <BiSK-8> marc: may i pm
[03:06] <marc> Chetic, cedega X-plane.exe
[03:06] <HappyFool> sunrex: this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto will give you an idea of what you must do -- but note that it's for a different card
[03:06] <marc> Chetic, :P
[03:06] <marc> BiSK-8, sure
[03:06] <Chetic> marc, wtf is X-plane? :p
[03:07] <marc> Chetic, http://www.x-plane.com/
[03:07] <sunrex> HappyFool:i wish u could just do it for me..like remote acsess lol
[03:07] <Hieronymus> !info xplane
[03:07] <Hieronymus> !info x-plane
[03:07] <Hieronymus> ubotu Package 'x-plane' does not exist.
[03:07] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Hieronymus
[03:08] <marc> Chetic, Wait There is a linux version of x-plane too
[03:08] <Jonax> Quick question - What would the command line be to extract a .tar.bz2 file?
[03:08] <Hieronymus> Jonax: tar -xvjf
[03:08] <Hoxzer> ;)
[03:08] <Tsukasa> tar --bzip2 -xvf
[03:08] <Chetic> marc, I'm not going to PAY for it :p
[03:08] <Hoxzer> this is such a pitty
[03:08] <Hieronymus> Jonax: or figure out yourself: man tar
[03:08] <Hoxzer> we should give a love to each other
[03:08] <bojangles> and all these programmers recently complaining that they can't make any money off of free or even open source software.....well that is strange because IBM, Intel, SGI, HP, Dell, AMD, Sony, Sun, Epson....have no problem making billions of dollars off of free software
[03:08] <marc> Chetic, http://66.111.223.52/XLIN811b.tar.bz2
[03:09] <BiSK-8> marc: <----pm
[03:10] <Chetic> marc, DCC me some $ and I might actually try it :p
[03:10] <znh> -[bleep] -
[03:10] <bojangles> and what do all those have in common...that distinguishes them from the starving programmers.
[03:10] <Tsukasa> I think at least IBM, SGI, HP, Dell and Sun make some big bucks from their server market where they utilize open source
[03:10] <marc> bojangles, They get paid supporting free software, not programming it
[03:11] <Tsukasa> so they don't make a living purely out of open source
[03:11] <bojangles> marc, well i am just saying that the free software programmers should stop complaining and start writing the right type of code that will make them billions.
[03:11] <eruin> anyone here using gaim2?
[03:12] <marc> how can they make money off of free software?
[03:12] <bojangles> marc, it would seem that if they implement their code in hardware they won't have a problem making any money..
[03:12] <Tsukasa> the age where you can make a fortune by hacking around your spectrum computer in a garage are over
[03:13] <marc> bojangles, so they are making money off hardware, and not software?
[03:13] <Jonax> exit
[03:13] <Jonax> Whoops - Sos, bash flashback :)
[03:13] <marc> bojangles, In a highly competitive market where the big boys control everything?
[03:13] <bojangles> marc, after all SGI got the MIPS code for free from Stanford University since it was paid for by the taxpayers.....and they made billions of dollars from the MIPS processors..
[03:14] <bojangles> marc, and IBM got the RISC code from Berkeley for free where it was paid for by the taxpayers.....and they made billions of dollars off of it
[03:15] <marc> bojangles, I understand that, but the free software developer is always left out of the loop of making money
[03:15] <othernoob> maybe that's why they are "free software developer"...just a thought..
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes my best wasn't good enought for youuu
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes I lett youu go
[03:15] <bojangles> marc, not if they design their own processors, microcode, firmware, bios, etc., bus strategies,
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes I heart you so
[03:16] <Hoxzer> I know that I can be the meanest person in the world
[03:17] <bigredjoe1310> anyone know of a list of repositories for ubuntu besides the default and guide?
[03:17] <bojangles> marc, hell some of them plan on making lots and lots of money off of their TPM module and DRM code
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> mplayer wont install
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> it lists a bunch of depends but says theyre not installable
[03:18] <itz> How do i change sudo password.. i cant find root or sudo in users/group
[03:19] <Tsukasa> ColonelKernel, did you run apt-get with sudo? :)
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> yes
[03:19] <jcoxon> itz, sudo passwd
[03:19] <marc> why is my system going down for reboot in 10 secs
[03:19] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: breezy?
[03:19] <Hieronymus> marc: someone did sudo shutdown 10
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> it did it as root
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, warty
[03:19] <marc> Im the only user lol
[03:19] <sexcopter8000m> does anyone have bitlbee here?
[03:20] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: what is your sources.list?
[03:20] <itz> jcoxon, thx worked like charm ;)
[03:20] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, ill paste it on pastebin
[03:20] <Hieronymus> that's good
[03:21] <jcoxon> itz, no probs
[03:21] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, http://pastebin.com/309993
[03:22] <ColonelKernel> it cut off the backports section a little w my bad cut /paste
[03:22] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: you don't have main enabled, that'll give you problems
[03:22] <ColonelKernel> doh
[03:23] <Hieronymus> !sources
[03:23] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:23] <Hieronymus> make a new one based upon what ubotu said
[03:23] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[03:23] <ubotu> :)
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, thanks
[03:26] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: okay, post again on pastebin if you did that
[03:26] <Hieronymus> I'll review it
[03:28] <sunrex> got a question..why dont they just make it so everything comes pre-installed?
[03:28] <sunrex> is there any lunix like that?
[03:29] <apokryphos> sunrex: because that we be very many gigabytes, and useless ones, for most.
[03:29] <Hieronymus> sunrex: 'lunix' what's that? Are you talking about the Linux kernel?
[03:29] <Hieronymus> !linux
[03:29] <ubotu> hmm... linux is the "kernel", or core of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of Linux. For more information on Linux in general, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:31] <djtansey> does anyone know if the next version of ubuntu/gnome will have easier open-with "other" dialogs? i just downloaded an mpg and firefox asked me, "would you like to open this is -xine-" with xine in the drop-down box. i wanted to use totem, so i said "other" and put in /usr/bin/totem -- but you can't expect newbies to do that. shouldn't it show programs form the applicatoins menu?
[03:31] <sunrex> what games are there right now with lunix support anyway
[03:32] <BiSK-8> all games work on linux
[03:32] <BiSK-8> use wine
[03:32] <sunrex> were do i get wine again. the free one
[03:32] <BiSK-8> sudo
[03:32] <BiSK-8> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:32] <jcoxon> sunrex, some games have linux binaries
[03:33] <sunrex> like...lol
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, which you use with the original cd
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, i think castle wolfenstein (as in the new one)
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, and i think quake 3
[03:33] <sunrex> ok i got wine..now were is it =/
[03:33] <James> I cannot view any of the Real or WM video streams on the BBC News site. Nor does Firefox find a relevant plugin. How can I get them to work?
[03:34] <sunrex> once i sudo wine how do i use it lol
[03:34] <BiSK-8> lololol
[03:35] <BiSK-8> applications-->run-->wine
[03:35] <BiSK-8> any1 of u ppl like star wars?
[03:35] <itz> James, got same problem
[03:35] <James> itz: no solution?
[03:36] <itz> havent tried
[03:36] <James> oh
[03:36] <itz> James,  just wanna say it so u didnt think it was something wrong at ur install ;)
[03:37] <James> itz: oh okay, thanks! :)
[03:37] <sunrex> is wine always this slow lol
[03:37] <Panzerboy> can anybody pls tell me what this means?
[03:37] <Panzerboy> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:37] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me delete a file from the desktop?
[03:38] <sunrex> oh um whats the website that tells u how to install the games with wine?
[03:38] <deFrysk> klik it once and hit hte del button
[03:38] <James> BiSK-8: drag it to the wastebasket.
[03:38] <BiSK-8> duh
[03:38] <BiSK-8> wint work
[03:38] <BiSK-8> wont*
[03:38] <James> BiSK-8: ask the right question, get the right answer
[03:38] <BiSK-8> access denied
[03:38] <James> What's the file?
[03:39] <BiSK-8> a folder
[03:39] <James> called?
[03:39] <djtansey> Panzerboy. That is an unusual problem. It means that it downloaded the file but then the signature of the file (to confirm that it got what it was expecting) didn't match. this can happen when the whole file didn't download or for other reasons. are you using the command line apt-get or synaptic?
[03:39] <BiSK-8> called hydra-2.2
[03:39] <Panzerboy> djtansey: apt-get
[03:39] <BiSK-8> a half compiled tarball
[03:39] <itz> kgsudo nautilus /home/usr  then try
[03:39] <Panzerboy> command line
[03:39] <James> BiSK-8: it's probably not owned by you, but by "root".
[03:40] <itz> BiSK-8, kgsudo nautilus /home/usr  then try
[03:40] <deFrysk> sudo rm blah
[03:40] <deFrysk> sudo rm -rf blah
[03:40] <Panzerboy> djtansey: should i try again ?
[03:40] <djtansey> Panzerboy: try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install (or whever you were doing) again. it might just be because there is an update to the file that wasn't there last time you did apt-get update
[03:40] <Panzerboy> djtansey: ok, thanks
[03:40] <BiSK-8> i tried 2 delete it through root
[03:40] <BiSK-8> but wont work
[03:41] <markus> How do I enable dma for my cdrom?
[03:41] <Panzerboy> djtansey: the problem is at the download, apparently it doesn't download the whole file
[03:41] <Panzerboy> i wonder why though
[03:41] <djtansey> Panzerboy: i don't know how proficient you are. you can find the .deb file that failed in /var/cache/apt/archives and delete it and try again. or you can do an apt-get clean (which removes all downloaded deb files. something you should do from time to time anyway to save some space)
[03:41] <James> BiSK-8: try using the terminal. Type "cd Desktop", and then "sudo rm hydra-2.2".
[03:42] <djtansey> Panzerboy: you tried an apt-get update? it might be something wrong with the server -- it might have a corrupt copy of the file or have some other issue
[03:42] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i think will manage to find the deb, thanks a lot
[03:42] <BiSK-8> wont work
[03:42] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i tried apt-get update
[03:42] <Panzerboy> then install again
[03:42] <djtansey> Panzerboy: it should /var/cache/apt/archives/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb
[03:43] <James> BiSK-8: why, same error?
[03:43] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:43] <Panzerboy> djtansey: nope, not there
[03:43] <Panzerboy> not even the directory is there
[03:43] <BiSK-8> root@bisk8:/home/bisk8/Desktop # sudo rm hydra-2.2
[03:43] <BiSK-8> rm: impossibile rimuovere `hydra-2.2': Is a directory
[03:43] <BiSK-8> root@bisk8:/home/bisk8/Desktop #
[03:43] <djtansey> Panzer: sorry -- get rid of the imlib2 part --
[03:43] <Panzerboy> it is in partial
[03:43] <James> BiSK-8: sorry, type: "sudo rm -rf hydra-2.2"
[03:44] <BiSK-8> thanks
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i've deleted it from partial
[03:44] <BiSK-8> it worked
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i'll try again
[03:44] <sunrex> *sigh* how do you get starcraft to run with wine
[03:44] <markus> How do I disable services in ubuntu?
[03:44] <djtansey> Panzer: that's interesting. so yeah -- probably a download error. but your connection is okay?
[03:44] <sunrex> i mean by every time i try to play it it says 'no cd' or somthing like that
[03:44] <BiSK-8> cya all 2morrow
[03:44] <BiSK-8> bye
[03:44] <Gourami> sunrex, buy the original :)
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: well, i am experiencing some times some strange problems with apt-get
[03:45] <sunrex> i have the original
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: no matter what mirror i try, sometimes, it's very slow
[03:45] <sunrex> im using normal free wine
[03:45] <djtansey> Panzer: where are you (geographically)
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but the browsing and other downloads (for example from firefox) are ok
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: romania
[03:45] <sunrex> it installed fine..but it just wont play it does not detect the cd..
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: same thing with imlib
[03:45] <djtansey> Panzerboy: yeah. i get some slow speeds from  time to time. you're using the US mirror. there are closer ones.
[03:45] <eskaypey> how to take the outline of the window off when it goes to tray when minimizing it
[03:46] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it downloads around 175K
[03:46] <Panzerboy> from the file
[03:46] <Gourami> sunrex then get a cracked copy
[03:46] <Panzerboy> from 185K
[03:46] <Panzerboy> hmm
[03:46] <Panzerboy> so strange
[03:46] <Panzerboy> other apt-get installs were ok
[03:46] <sunrex> Gourami: u mean its not just wine screwing up? it works FINE on windows..
[03:46] <Panzerboy> even the whole update
[03:46] <Panzerboy> went ok
[03:46] <djtansey> Panzerboy: the us.archive.ubuntu.com file is corrupt, i think. i just downloaded it and dpkg --info borked.
[03:46] <Panzerboy> ok, i will switch the mirror then
[03:46] <eskaypey> anyone?
[03:47] <djtansey> Panzer: k
[03:47] <Panzerboy> but i guess on all the mirrors it will be the same
[03:47] <Panzerboy> or ?
[03:47] <Gourami> winehq reports that starcraft is one of the proven apps to work on wine, I havent tried it myself though
[03:47] <sunrex> it installs fine..i guess the CDROM just wont be detected couse of the windows programs on it
[03:48] <Hieronymus> Gourami: please do not suggest cracking
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzerboy: just tried http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb
[03:48] <djtansey>  -- it worked.
[03:48] <sunrex> is there somthing i have to do to make it work? im a newb at lunix..
[03:48] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool, so i will just remove the us from the deb source
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: so yo ucan just copy that file into your apt/archives dir and redo whatever installtion you were doing
[03:48] <Panzerboy> :)
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: and do apt-get update
[03:48] <Panzerboy> ok
[03:48] <Panzerboy> yes
[03:48] <Panzerboy> thanks a lot!
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: np. let me know if it works. i'll be on for a bit
[03:49] <Gourami> Hieronymus, why not, then he can see if its wine or starcraft thats the problem
[03:49] <sunrex> i dont get this...starcraft installs fine..i try to play..bam it wont let me play.
[03:49] <djtansey> Panzer: and if you're new to linux, welcome. it seems you know your way around decently though.
[03:49] <sunrex> lol
[03:49] <Gourami> sunrex have you checked to see if theres anything on winehq ?
[03:49] <djtansey> Panzer: i've been using it exclusively since 1997. am very happy with ubuntu. used debian since 1999.
[03:49] <sunrex> ?
[03:49] <sunrex> how
[03:49] <sunrex> sudo wine?
[03:50] <Gourami> winehq.com or .org or google for winehq its their web site
[03:50] <Panzerboy> djtansey: thanks, i'm not quite new to linux, i've been using it since 2000 or so :)
[03:50] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but with interruptions :)
[03:51] <Panzerboy> djtansey: and not debian, only once and for a couple of weeks or so :)
[03:51] <djtansey> Panzer: well, i thope those interruptions will become more and more infrequent.
[03:51] <SDFH_Linux> guys is there a way to make windows media player streams work
[03:51] <silas> hi all.
[03:51] <James> SDFH_Linux: I'd like to know too!
[03:51] <Panzerboy> djtansey: they will, thanks to ubuntu :)
[03:51] <djtansey> Panzer: well, i fell in love with debian for the philosophy and the package managment and the community. fortunatelly, ubuntu has all of them. though i still try to help debian when i can (and use it on my server)
[03:51] <silas> hey, what is the ubuntu iinitialization script?
[03:51] <adwait> ppl.....any idea why play.games.com doesnt work on ubuntu?
[03:51] <zeppe> hi you all
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it worked from the ro.archive
[03:52] <zeppe> i'm not able to burn cds with any gui
[03:52] <djtansey> Panzerboy: yay for romania
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but, strangely, it was slower than us.archive :P
[03:52] <SDFH_Linux> yes windows media players streams would be nice to work anyone know how
[03:52] <silas> hey, what is the ubuntu iinitialization script?
[03:52] <djtansey> Panzer: hah.
[03:52] <silas> rc.d?
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: :)
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> SDFH_Linux: try mplayer
[03:52] <zeppe> nautilus reports any cd not to be empty -- I tried with many ones
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: where are you from ?
[03:52] <sunrex> ok i said wine control...
[03:53] <zeppe> gnomebaker too
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzer: i travel around the world a lot so i'm always changing my mirrors. though, if i'm going to be traveling a lot and don't want to think about it, i just use regular archive.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <pmai> zeppe reboot?
[03:53] <SDFH_Linux> k
[03:53] <sunrex> exited with failure status of 1..
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzerboy: born in america, though i've only lived there for 7 years
[03:53] <Panzerboy> djtansey: ok :)
[03:53] <Panzerboy> djtansey: and now you're in europe?
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzerboy: you're romanian? you have good english.
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: in israel presently. at least for another month.
[03:54] <onkarshinde> is there any chance that SeaMonkey will be added to some repository of Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah, well, i've studied english since i was 8 :)
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool. i've been in israel
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: good. what else do you speak?
[03:54] <zeppe> in eroaster as i press "burn" absolutly NOTHING happens...
[03:54] <SDFH_Linux> what is seamonkey
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: it's an interesting place
[03:54] <zeppe> what could be the cause?
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: been there for 3 months
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah, quite dangerous though
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzerboy: about the same as me. i've been here a couple times for a few weeks each
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: fortunately, this summer has been calm.
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i speak romanian (of course :P) and bit of french and german
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah
[03:55] <zeppe> anybody as an idea?
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: no chinese or russian? those are my other languages. and a tiny bit of turkmen.
[03:55] <kbrooks> heh
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: my wife is german so i'll try to learn the language
[03:55] <onkarshinde> SDFH_Linux: It is the new rebranded Mozilla Suite, now being developed by community
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: nope
[03:55] <blackout> anyone know how to stop a laptop from hibernating?
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: cool. what is your profession?
[03:55] <kbrooks> kreator?
[03:55] <SDFH_Linux> o
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i've tried to learn japanese at one point :)
[03:55] <kbrooks> lol
[03:56] <blackout> ubuntu doesn't allow it to be woken up (at least, not in any way i can determine)
[03:56] <Panzerboy> djtansey: programmer :)
[03:56] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yours?
[03:56] <zeppe> anyone can help me to have burner find empty cds?!?
[03:56] <djtansey> blackout: do you have any command line experience? you can look at /etc/default/acpi-support and turn off hibernate.
[03:56] <djtansey> Panzer: international development
[03:57] <zeppe> no ideas?!?!
[03:57] <Panzerboy> djtansey: what does that mean ? :)
[03:57] <blackout> djtansey, yes, extensive.  I'll turn it off from there.
[03:57] <sunrex> Wine does not detect my CD drive or CD
[03:57] <sunrex> is there a way to fix this?
[03:57] <Panzerboy> zeppe: what do you mean by that?
[03:57] <djtansey> Panzerboy: small business development in developing areas. educational development. things like htat.
[03:57] <sunrex> i mean i cant play any games...it doesnt detect it
[03:58] <djtansey> blackout: and remember do sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart
[03:58] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool, you should come to romania :-)
[03:58] <sunrex> wine "c:\program files\starcraft\starcraft.exe"
[03:58] <sunrex>  does not detect CD ROM
[03:58] <Panzerboy> djtansey: there are lots of things like that to be done here
[03:58] <zeppe> Panzer, both cd burner and cd reader are correctly found and mounted
[03:58] <zeppe> but if I insert an empty cd
[03:58] <zeppe> any empty cd
[03:59] <zeppe> both gnomebaker and nautilus tell me the cd is not empty
[03:59] <Scroopy> quick query, whats the Winamp equivalent for Ubuntu?
[03:59] <sunrex> i seriously dont get this..why doesnt it detect a CD..
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzerboy: maybe i will sometime. i don't have a lot of background in europe. my experience is mostly in central and east asia. i'd like to get to south asia and africa. though a lot of europe needs (and gets) int'l devel work
[03:59] <sunrex> it doesnt detect it when i want to play the game...just when im installing
[03:59] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i see
[03:59] <zeppe> while eroaster do nothing as i press 'burn'
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzer: you could become a micro-financer if you wanted to help
[03:59] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it's interesting, i'd like to find out more
[03:59] <mojo> excuse me every1
[03:59] <zeppe> Scroopy, it is XMMS
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzer: have any background in business management or know anyone who does?
[04:00] <BurgerMann> How do I kill a process that just one die?
[04:00] <mojo> can some1 give me where to find instruction how to install ATI driver?
[04:00] <Scroopy> thanks zeppe
[04:00] <Panzerboy> djtansey: well, i have a degree in economics :-), but no real experience
[04:00] <adwait> BurgerMann: kill <PID>
[04:00] <adwait> ?
[04:00] <Panzerboy> djtansey: so yes, i've studied all that, management, marketing, etc, but, as i said, i have no real experience in this area
[04:00] <mojo> BurgerMann: ps -aux to see the process ID, then use kill <PID>
[04:00] <BurgerMann> adwait, it doesn't seem to wanna be kiled
[04:00] <mojo> can some1 give me where to find instruction how to install ATI driver?
[04:01] <BurgerMann> mojo, that doesn't kill it
[04:01] <adwait> BurgerMann: wht happens whn u use kill?
[04:01] <onkarshinde> mojo: google ubuntu ati. You will surely find reference to ubuntu forum
[04:01] <BurgerMann> adwait, nothing actually.. it just stays on my list
[04:01] <[koji] > BurgerMann: Ctrl+Alt-Del :P
[04:01] <caplink811_log> BurgerMann,  kill -9 oid
[04:01] <Panzerboy> zeppe: sorry, don't know what's the problem ... just installed ubuntu, didn't get to the cd burning phase
[04:01] <onkarshinde> BurgerMann: What do you want to kill?
[04:01] <djtansey> Panzer: i have a good friend who went to nigeria with 50,000 that he had saved up over the years and started a micro-financing institute. has helped 800 people start business with his microloans. has had a 0% default rate. he provides 3 weeks of basic business training, has them submit load applications, reviews which ones seem reasonable, and then grants the loans. has quintupled the business's worth in something like 3 years.
[04:02] <zeppe> no matter, panzerboy
[04:02] <Panzerboy> djtansey: interesting
[04:02] <zeppe> but i wonder if really nobody reading the chat has any idea...
[04:02] <kbrooks> zeppe, uh
[04:02] <onkarshinde> How good is mplayer as compared to vlc?
[04:02] <Panzerboy> djtansey: the problem is that i'm married and i doubt my wife would like the idea :)
[04:02] <BurgerMann> onkarshinde, it's a game I quit :S
[04:02] <mojo> BurgerMann: ahh, hey man, go to Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[04:02] <kbrooks> zeppe, whats ur problem
[04:02] <djtansey> Panzer: so it really is something anyone reasonably intelligent person can do. look up micro financing institute on google and you cand learn plenty. and there are some great books on it.
[04:03] <BurgerMann> onkarshinde, now I can't reopen it
[04:03] <BurgerMann> mojo, did that :s
[04:03] <Panzerboy> onkarshinde: i've never used anything but mplayer, so all i can tell you is that mplayer rocks :)
[04:03] <onkarshinde> BurgerMann: Try killing it from System Monitor
[04:03] <kbrooks> wtf
[04:03] <djtansey> Panzer: yeah, that's always a problem. understanding that i'm going to be pushing the frontiers was part of my prenuptual agreement :)
[04:03] <kbrooks> konserve? cool
[04:03] <BurgerMann> nothing seems to work, not even sending it abort or kill signals
[04:03] <Panzerboy> djtansey: lol
[04:03] <nalioth> kbrooks: what is up?
[04:03] <kbrooks> nalioth, just discovered an app
[04:03] <kbrooks> :)
[04:03] <zeppe> both nautilus and gnomebaker tell me empty cds are not empty when trying starting burning process
[04:04] <vagamente> any AUDIGY2 user????
[04:04] <onkarshinde> BurgerMann: If you are not doing much work. Why don't you save everything and kill your X session?
[04:04] <nalioth> kbrooks: a good discovery?
[04:04] <zerg> vagamente, no
[04:04] <kbrooks> nalioth, a backup app ;)
[04:04] <zerg> kbdcb, tar?
[04:04] <Panzerboy> well, mplayer doesn't work for me
[04:04] <kbrooks> nope
[04:04] <BurgerMann> onkarshinde, that's kinda a panic solution I think, I thought root could kill any process :S
[04:04] <kbrooks> konserve :P
[04:04] <Panzerboy> strange
[04:04] <Panzerboy> it starts
[04:04] <znh_> hmm.. why can't I update libc6 to the newest version?
[04:05] <Panzerboy> but no image appears
[04:05] <Panzerboy> nothing
[04:05] <djtansey> Panzer: but i gtg. it was nice meeting you.
[04:05] <BurgerMann> Its seems to be a GHOST process.. dear heaven
[04:05] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah, nice meeting you too :)
[04:05] <kbrooks> znh_, why do you want to do that
[04:05] <Panzerboy> djtansey: have a nice weekend
[04:05] <zerg> ...
[04:05] <znh_> kbrooks: I'd like to install a xfce4 plugin that requires libc6 >= 2.3.5-1
[04:05] <nalioth> znh_: because you already have the newest version?
[04:05] <Panzerboy> is anybody else experiencing problems with mplayer?
[04:05] <znh_> nalioth: false
[04:06] <znh_> Panzerboy: use vlc instead
[04:06] <zeppe> kbrooks, that's the matter: both nautilus and gnomebaker tell me empty cds are not empty when trying starting burning process -- eroaster instead do absolutly NOTHING as i press burn
[04:06] <nalioth> znh_: are you using hoary?
[04:06] <znh_> nalioth: yes I do
[04:06] <nalioth> zeppe: use k3b
[04:06] <sunrex> how do i get starcraft to play b/c it keeps saying no CD even thou theres a CD in the drive
[04:06] <kbrooks> sunrex, wine?
[04:06] <drummer87> is there a way to control another computer without vnc? say web based?
[04:06] <sunrex> yes
[04:07] <znh_> drummer87: vnc can be used webbased with java
[04:07] <kbrooks> .......
[04:07] <nalioth> znh_: if you install in some fashion a newer libc6 you'll kill your hoary
[04:07] <sunrex> kbrooks:yes
[04:07] <zeppe> nalioth, do you think it can only be a front-end question? not something more serious?
[04:07] <nalioth> drummer87: ssh
[04:07] <znh_> nalioth: aw :(
[04:07] <Panzerboy> znh_: thanks for the suggestion, but i'd really like to use mplayer :)
[04:07] <nalioth> zeppe: you can try all options
[04:07] <blackout> djtansey, hmmm, i edited out the acpi-support line, and restarted acpid, but when i close and open the screen, i still get a black screen with a blinking cursor.
[04:07] <znh_> Panzerboy: you might want to try compiling at your self.. the debian packages didn't work for met oo
[04:07] <drummer87> ssh? i thought that was just a security protocol, how do i do it with that?
[04:07] <kbrooks> znh_, dont recommend that
[04:08] <sunrex> kbrooks:is there any other free programs like wine?
[04:08] <zeppe> nalioth-- you're right... but as long as i can't burn i does not have enough space to install kde libraries!!
[04:08] <blackout> perhaps the blacking out of screen after shutting/opening isn't hibernate, but something else?
[04:08] <onkarshinde> Panzerboy: I will say, use VLC once and you will never touch anything else.
[04:08] <znh_> kbrooks: I know that other programs won't find mplayer (via apt-get)
[04:09] <Panzerboy> znh_: oh, i see
[04:09] <onkarshinde> How good Hibernate works in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <kbrooks> znh_, thats why i said that....dpkg can be useeeeed, but theres risk of breaking
[04:09] <Panzerboy> onkarshinde: i will try to use vlc
[04:09] <kbrooks> used*
[04:09] <Panzerboy> let's see :P
[04:09] <sunrex> kbrooks: hello...
[04:09] <nalioth> zeppe: you don't have another puter on the network you can xfer some files to?
[04:09] <pmai> Panzerboy vlc?
[04:09] <kbrooks> sunrex, cant help u sorry
[04:09] <bojangles> djtansey, why do you bring up that shit about microfinancing....that is just another name for LOAN SHARKS that inevitably destroy people's lives who can't repay the debts.......someone said "Seldom lend and never borrow"
[04:10] <sunrex> kbrooks: why not?
[04:10] <Jhair> (breezy)jtocancipa@mandala:~ $ apt-cache show xfce4
[04:10] <Jhair> W: Unable to locate package xfce4
[04:10] <onkarshinde> Panzerboy: Also make sure that you choose the best video output option before making your opinion.
[04:10] <Jhair> no xfce4 with breezy then?
[04:10] <kbrooks> Jhair, apt-get update
[04:11] <zeppe> nalioth-- ... well, with some work maybe i could make space and so on... but it seems strange to me if after having tried with three or four different gui frontends i solve my problems with the 5th! shouldn't it be something related to some configuration?
[04:11] <sunrex> ok...how do i fix this problem...wine wont detect the CD when i click play...it starts loading then it says no-cd...cd not detected...but the CD is right in the drive..
[04:11] <Panzerboy> onkarshinde: vlc has a gui? or it's like mplayer by default, without gui
[04:11] <mojo> excuse me
[04:11] <nalioth> zeppe: do you dual boot?
[04:11] <nalioth> Panzerboy: vlc is gui
[04:11] <kbrooks> Panzerboy, it has a GUI
[04:11] <mojo> can every1 show me how to change the content of source.list of apt so i can retrieve all latest beta Colony packages?
[04:11] <Panzerboy> ok, sorry :)
[04:11] <pmai> !vlc
[04:11] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[04:11] <zeppe> yes... ubuntu + freedos + win98 on one disk, another win98 on the other
[04:12] <sunrex> is anyone going to anser me..
[04:12] <kbrooks> mojo: 'latest' is dangerous
[04:12] <Panzerboy> !mplayer
[04:12] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:12] <nalioth> zeppe: does the burner hardware burn under the other OS'?
[04:12] <pmai> !bye
[04:12] <ubotu> pmai: I don't know
[04:12] <zeppe> sure!
[04:12] <kbrooks> why do you want the latest packages
[04:12] <sunrex> oh...do i need to change a setting on Wine like change what WINDOWS OS it fakes?
[04:12] <znh_> Hmm.. does there exist some graphical samba client? (Like i saw in gnome)
[04:13] <onkarshinde> !seamonkey
[04:13] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Are you smoking crack?
[04:13] <nalioth> zeppe: did you have room on the linux partition during insall of linux (and just fill it with pR0n since?)
[04:13] <zeppe> nalioth, sorry-- i'm not understanding
[04:13] <znh_> :-P
[04:14] <znh_> how to make cp skip files that are already on the destination
[04:14] <znh_>  path
[04:14] <zeppe> nalioth, wath did you mean with "have room on the linux partition"?
[04:14] <kbrooks> free space
[04:14] <mojo> kbrooks: i want to test it, that's all, latest packages are good for me, i am developer and tester
[04:15] <kbrooks> mojo: is 'Colony' a 3rd party repo?
[04:15] <nalioth> zeppe: is your linux partition full up with data?
[04:15] <blackout> does ubuntu have any tools for editing whether the init.d scripts run or not?  like debian's rcconf, or RH's runlevel editor?
[04:15] <mojo> kbrooks: no, i think its latest beta  from Ubuntu
[04:15] <Panzerboy> well, mplayer works
[04:15] <nalioth> kbrooks: colony is the code for breezy development, i believe
[04:16] <zeppe> only 66 mb free at the moment
[04:16] <Panzerboy> i just had to select esd as the audio output
[04:16] <kbrooks> nalioth, sure?
[04:16] <nalioth> kbrooks: i believe it is (ie colony2, colony3, etc)
[04:16] <zeppe> nalioth, about 1,5 GB of data on a 4GB partition -- now only 66mb free
[04:16] <kbrooks> nalioth, if so, is the code in colony 'latest', as mojo claims it isnt?
[04:17] <nalioth> zeppe: do you have room on other partitions for data?
[04:17] <zeppe> nalioth, what does it mean "room"?!? free space?
[04:17] <c0al> Hi, i'm a long time debian user and thinking of switching to ubuntu because the packages seem more up to date. I was wondering if it uses the same programs for package installation? apt-get, apt-build, dpkg etc ?
[04:17] <nalioth> zeppe: yes, free space
[04:17] <nalioth> c0al: yes
[04:18] <nalioth> c0al: ubuntu is debian underneath
[04:18] <sunrex> how do i get starcraft to PLAY on wine?
[04:18] <zeppe> no, i had to fill up linux partition because my housemates needed space on the windows one...
[04:18] <c0al> and one other question - will using debs from debian repositorys break anything on the ubuntu system?
[04:18] <nalioth> c0al: yes, debian debs tend to break ubuntu
[04:18] <c0al> Hrmm. i have a .deb of cedega that i use to play all my games
[04:19] <nalioth> zeppe: you need some empty space on your linux partition for some burners to work
[04:19] <zeppe> but, nalioth, do you really think k3b could work if all the other frontends failed? if so i could find a way to free space
[04:19] <c0al> and my subscription to transgaming has ran out
[04:19] <c0al> :(
[04:19] <sunrex> hello...can anyone help me?
[04:19] <nalioth> c0al: commercial cedega?
[04:19] <Jhair> I wonder why xfce4 is only in the 'universe' repository (i.e. officially unsupported) whereas xfce4 is part of the main Debian distribution.
[04:19] <nalioth> sunrex: if you ask a question
[04:19] <zeppe> nalioth: ah! how much?
[04:19] <c0al> nalioth, yes
[04:19] <sunrex> nalioth:how do i get starcraft to PLAY in wine>
[04:19] <nalioth> zeppe: at least as much as you're trying to burn, i'd think
[04:20] <djtansey> blackout: there is a difference between suspend and hibernate. one is to RAM, one is to the hard drive. you can disable sleep as well. what laptop do you have?
[04:20] <djtansey> blackout: suspend = sleep
[04:20] <zeppe> nalioth: but i'm trying to burn on the fly, not with the ISO!
[04:20] <nalioth> sunrex: have you tried #wine /path/to/starcraft.exe ?
[04:20] <blackout> djtansey, compaq 900
[04:20] <BurgerMann> Noone wouldn't accidently know how to kill a process in D-state?
[04:20] <nalioth> zeppe: i dont use graveman or gnomebaker and am not sure if those programs use cache space
[04:21] <zeppe> nalioth: k3b does not?
[04:21] <blackout> djtansey, i've got acpi_sleep=false, acpi_hibernate=false
[04:21] <sunrex> nalioth: yes...i can do everything ACCEPT PLAY IT
[04:21] <nalioth> zeppe: but 66mb is not a good amount of free space to have
[04:21] <blackout> djtansey, could it be anything else i need to disable?
[04:21] <djtansey> blackout: interesting.
[04:21] <fyunobar> how do i get midi to work? i've STFW'd tried everything i read, none of it gave results.
[04:21] <sunrex> nalioth: i can even see the preivew and install =/
[04:21] <djtansey> blackout: well, basically everything is in /etc/acpi
[04:21] <sunrex> nalioth: but when i say PLAY it says no cd =/
[04:21] <nalioth> sunrex: have you been to #wine ?
[04:22] <djtansey> blackout: except /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs
[04:22] <djtansey> blackout: and /etc/default/acpi-support
[04:22] <sunrex> nalioth: u mean in terminal
[04:22] <sunrex> nalioth:no
[04:22] <zeppe> nalioth: i said i can find a why to increase my free space. but if it is a cache problem, should'nt the apps tell me "not enough free space to cache data" or something and not that my f**king cds would not be empty?!?
[04:22] <blackout> djtansey, but all i have to disable are those 2 lines in acpi-support?
[04:22] <nalioth> sunrex: when i install wine for my clients (i have no x86) i always use the terminal to start stuff up
[04:23] <sunrex> nalioth:i did that to...it still said no cd =/
[04:23] <blackout> djtansey, that's a no, by the way - it still blacks out on me.
[04:23] <nalioth> zeppe: i think gnomebaker and graveman are very 'unfinished' next to k3b
[04:23] <sunrex> nalioth:wine "c:\program files\starcraft\starcraft.exe"
[04:23] <drummer87> w00t.. ssh is so much better than vnc for the shell
[04:23] <djtansey> blackout: so i thought. i had to enable sleep that way. but worse comes to worse just comment out everything in /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[04:24] <djtansey> blackout: or if you feel comfortable, edit it
[04:24] <blackout> djtansey, ooooh, right.  thanks.  That does suck though.
[04:24] <fyunobar> is midi even *possible* with linux?
[04:24] <blackout> djtansey, i hate messing with package config files, other than what is meant to be edited
[04:24] <nalioth> sunrex: have you been to #wine here on freenode?
[04:24] <zeppe> nalioth: also the burning system into nautilus? however, i'm trying gnomebaker and eroaster, not graveman (which seems me good but can not burn on the fly)
[04:24] <sunrex> nalioth:starcaft is unable to read a required file..
[04:24] <blackout> sunrex, you'll have much better luck on google
[04:24] <sunrex> nalioth: i just joined channal
[04:24] <blackout> sunrex, or #wine
[04:24] <nalioth> zeppe: the burning system built into nautilus is very simple (like the one built into XP)
[04:25] <djtansey> blackout: have you tried doing ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X? does it ever actually suspend?
[04:25] <sunrex> Nalioth:just tell me one thing..do i need Direct X installed? lol
[04:25] <apollo2011> How do I find what process is using a mounted partition so I can unmount it?
[04:25] <blackout> sunrex, this doesnt' really relate to ubuntu very much at all... the quickest way to get it running is to google "debian (or ubuntu" wine, starcraft
[04:25] <nalioth> sunrex: if you have no luck, you might wish to install cedega-cvs (there is a wiki article on howto)
[04:25] <kbrooks> sunrex, *need*?
[04:25] <nalioth> sunrex: are you running wine using your windows HD?
[04:25] <blackout> djtansey, no - i didn't know that key combo.  I'm unfamiliar with laptop hardware, frankly.
[04:25] <sunrex> wine
[04:25] <djtansey> blackout: though i don't think that lid.sh even is supposed to suspend you. it just turns off your screen and turns on the screensaver.
[04:25] <sunrex> i dont have Windows on my system
[04:25] <kbrooks> just wine?
[04:26] <blackout> djtansey, no, ctrl-alt-f7 gets me back.
[04:26] <sunrex> Nalioth: cedega-cvs is that free?
[04:26] <blackout> djtansey, now to keep it from doing that - thanks for tracking that one down.
[04:26] <djtansey> blackout: the ctrl-alt-f7 moves you into the virtual terminal that X windows runs on. ctrl-alt-f# gets you to any of them.
[04:26] <nalioth> sunrex: you are blessed in one regard, then, but i find wine works better using the native windows folder on a installed win system
[04:26] <nalioth> sunrex: cedega-cvs is free
[04:26] <blackout> djtansey, i know what it does - i'm not used to not seeing a prompt though
[04:26] <zeppe> nalioth: bah, i think i will manage to retransfer all the data to burn on the win98 partition.. as soon as my housemates let me.. and then to install k3b.. hoping it does not report me that stupid error anymore. however, thanks
[04:26] <sunrex> nalioth:is it better then wine =/
[04:27] <kbrooks> sunrex, yes its free, however the binary cedega is better
[04:27] <kbrooks> sunrex, yes
[04:27] <blackout> djtansey, i love the virt terms, i just use the ones with an actual prompt ;)
[04:27] <sunrex> is there a code to install that?
[04:27] <djtansey> blackout: you can look at /etc/acpi/lid.sh -- it says chvt (change virtual terminal) 12 -- you can uncomment that possibly. or add a chvt 7 somewhere in there to bring it back.
[04:27] <nalioth> zeppe: you really need to keep more than 66mb free
[04:27] <nalioth> !info cedega-cvs
[04:28] <nalioth> !info cedega
[04:28] <kbrooks> nalioth, i think cedega-cvs is nonfree, by definition
[04:28] <nalioth> !info cedegacvs
[04:28] <djtansey> blackout: it works for me -- meaning it comes back to the X screensaver. so i don't know what's wrong. you installed hoary fresh, or upgraded from warty?
[04:28] <nalioth> kbrooks: of course it is
[04:28] <nalioth> kbrooks: but you can get it
[04:28] <nalioth> stupid bot
[04:28] <kbrooks> WineCVS.sh
[04:28] <kbrooks> google it
[04:29] <blackout> djtansey, hoary fresh - this is my second day in ubuntu, from freebsd and debian
[04:29] <blackout> djtansey, and openbsd
[04:29] <kbrooks> lol
[04:29] <zeppe> nalioth, no matter: burning that couple of cds i will have 1,3 gb free.. it's not my use to have 66 mb free
[04:29] <kbrooks> debian was my first distro
[04:29] <nalioth> blackout: welcome
[04:29] <kbrooks> FYI
[04:29] <djtansey> blackout: ah. my background is in debian so ubuntu is very comfortable for me. been using debian since ~1997 (exclusively. i'm something of a zealot, though i've calmed down  abit)
[04:29] <kbrooks> djtansey, heh, same here
[04:30] <nalioth> djtansey: i'm just a zealot about f/osss
[04:30] <nalioth> brb
[04:30] <kbrooks> since 2004 here
[04:30] <djtansey> nalioth: which is why i used debian. they gave props to FOSS where others didn't.
[04:30] <kbrooks> free open source software?
[04:30] <blackout> djtansey, i do apprecate the niceties of ubuntu - i'm surprised by how stable it is.  A little chagrined by lack of packages though, and since universe doesn't have security updates, i can't really use that.  Not sure if that kills ubuntu for me or not
[04:30] <kbrooks> wtf?
[04:31] <blackout> djtansey, oh, and by the way, if you delete the chvt 12 line from lid.sh, you get the nice behavior of just putting your screensaver on.
[04:31] <djtansey> blackout: so everything is in /etc/acpi/ -- or is referenced by scripts in there. since you have a good background, you can probably navigate it. i just filed a bug report saying we need more powerful power management config tools
[04:31] <grphx> What is the common p2p software for linux?
[04:31] <kbrooks> blackout, you know, ubuntu is stable. hoary is frozen -- walled off -- to security updatess
[04:31] <blackout> djtansey, thanks - we do.
[04:31] <djtansey> blackout: are you that worried about security? i use universe and multiverse
[04:31] <kbrooks> grphx, there is none
[04:32] <kbrooks> grphx, i prefer amule
[04:32] <grphx> Just torrents?
[04:32] <kbrooks> grphx, bit torrent too
[04:32] <blackout> djtansey, i don't know how worried i have to be.  Since no updates occurr, and i use a lot of security tools, i do worry a little bit.
[04:32] <Hieronymus> grphx: there are the .mules, torrent and some others
[04:32] <djtansey> blackout: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[04:32] <fyunobar> cat /dev/sndstat says "Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG", how can i enable them?
[04:32] <djtansey> blackout: well -- that's only relavent if you use security tools from universe/multiverse.
[04:32] <grphx> Thank you..
[04:33] <DekaPink> Hello, my lovelies.
[04:33] <kbrooks> blackout, you know, ubuntu does not install *any* daemons
[04:33] <djtansey> blackout: but since i have those links and they don't bork i me -- i don't know what that means.
[04:33] <grphx> I swear this whole Synaptic Package thing is awsome(linux newbie)
[04:33] <Hieronymus> grphx: agreed
[04:33] <kbrooks> grphx, there is no general consenus as to what software is "common" or not
[04:33] <Hieronymus> but it has some downfalls
[04:33] <blackout> kbrooks, but the security tools are vulnerable from time to time
[04:33] <kbrooks> what p2p software*
[04:34] <p8ntballer100822> how do u add a program to the aplication drop down menu???
[04:34] <blackout> djtansey, so there are some security updates for universe?
[04:34] <djtansey> blackout: presumably some amount.
[04:34] <grphx> kbrooks: Huh?
[04:34] <mojo> ah, i know there is lots of question about what command used in Ubuntu to convert JDK bin to DEB file, can some1 tell me what program ppl use for now?
[04:34] <kbrooks> grphx,
[04:34] <djtansey> djtansey: are you CIA, mossad, what? :)
[04:34] <kbrooks> grphx, there is no general consenus as to what p2p software is "common" or not
[04:34] <kbrooks> corrected
[04:34] <Coopa> Howdy all
[04:35] <grphx> So there is no popular program?
[04:35] <kbrooks> mojo, many programs are used sequentially
[04:35] <djtansey> mojo: there are no easy tools for converting things to deb files, sorry. it's a fairly complicated process.
[04:35] <blackout> kbrooks, what do you mean "walled off"?  That doesn't apply to security, does it?
[04:35] <djtansey> grphx: pop program for what?
[04:35] <kbrooks> blackout, re read
[04:35] <QaDeS> hiyas
[04:35] <mojo> kbrooks: atleast, u just tell me the command?
[04:35] <Xr|p> Is it possible to route network with a live cd ubuntu ?
[04:35] <kbrooks> blackout, you know, ubuntu is stable. hoary is frozen -- walled off -- to programs, only *security updates*"
[04:36] <kbrooks> corrected
[04:36] <QaDeS> does anyone know how to install jdk1.5 on ubuntu?
[04:36] <[koji] > mojo: why don't you use a native ubuntu deb?
[04:36] <kbrooks> QaDeS, use the wiki
[04:36] <blackout> kbrooks, i did, couldnt' parse your statement.
[04:36] <kbrooks> mojo: UTW
[04:36] <blackout> kbrooks, ah, right.  That's what i assumed.
[04:36] <QaDeS> where is the wiki?
[04:36] <grphx> So is there any good video editing software for linux?>
[04:37] <kbrooks> wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <blackout> kbrooks, similar to debian stable.  Just with packages created in the last 10 years.
[04:37] <QaDeS> i mean, i read something that jdk was in Hoary Extras / Restricted [STAGING] .
[04:37] <QaDeS> but wtf does that mean? ^^
[04:37] <mojo> koji: that's what i am seeking, but i can't, so I rather build it myself
[04:37] <Xr|p> Is it possible to route network with a live cd ubuntu ?
[04:37] <[koji] > search the wiki
[04:37] <kbrooks> mojo: you can
[04:37] <kbrooks> search the wiki
[04:37] <kbrooks> QaDeS, where did you read this
[04:38] <Hieronymus> mojo: alien maybe
[04:38] <Hieronymus> don't know if it works with jdk
[04:38] <kbrooks> Hieronymus, do not recommend alien to any ubuntu user
[04:38] <Hieronymus> kbrooks: and why not?
[04:38] <kbrooks> especially newbies
[04:38] <Hieronymus> !alien
[04:38] <ubotu> methinks alien is http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[04:38] <kbrooks> because rpms are incompatible with debian/ubuntu
[04:38] <WhiteRabbit> I like the way you work it *No diggity*  (Has Doubt)
[04:38] <nalioths_dog> QaDeS: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:38] <WhiteRabbit> sik
[04:39] <kbrooks> and so may break the linux box
[04:39] <mojo> Hieronymus: not alien, alien is used for RPM not BIN
[04:39] <grphx> Anybody use aMule?
[04:39] <Coopa> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my desktop pc, but i'm using a wireless keyboard/mouse. When i get to the first prompt screen (where you can just hit Enter to start installtion of ubuntu) the keyboard isn't being recognised. Is this because it's wireless or because it's USB?
[04:39] <Hieronymus> !wiki alien
[04:39] <nalioth> Hieronymus: use ubuntu binarys, first, then use apt to build from source an ubuntu binary, 3d, build it yourself
[04:39] <kbrooks> mojo, wrong
[04:39] <Hieronymus> usb should work
[04:40] <nalioth> Coopa: could be both
[04:40] <kbrooks> mojo: alien converts from RPM to <insert this format> and back
[04:40] <othernoob> anyone ever played uplink?
[04:40] <Coopa> Gah, i've just moved house and don't have an ordinary kaeyboard or mouse!
[04:40] <Xr|p> Where can I add iptables to a Ubuntu Live CD ?
[04:40] <Determinist> someone ping detersub.homedns.org please and tell me if you can get a reply
[04:40] <kbrooks> Xr|p, You don't.
[04:41] <kbrooks> Xr|p, well
[04:41] <Xr|p> kbrooks, so I can't route my homenetwork with a live cd ?
[04:41] <kbrooks> Xr|p, juyst cp the cd to /
[04:41] <Hieronymus> --- detersub.homedns.org ping statistics ---
[04:41] <Hieronymus> 11 packets transmitted, 10 received, 9% packet loss, time 10010ms
[04:41] <Hieronymus> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 141.814/191.885/256.913/33.614 ms
[04:41] <nalioth> Xr|p: same place you add them in a regular distro
[04:41] <nalioth> kbrooks: it can be done, in memory
[04:41] <SpaceminD> hey folks
[04:41] <kbrooks> nalioth, i dont think it could be done
[04:41] <SpaceminD> i need some urgent help
[04:42] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: just ask is the /topic
[04:42] <kbrooks> nalioth, i heard that /usr is readonly
[04:42] <nalioth> SpaceminD: tell us tell us
[04:42] <SpaceminD> i have do something wrong because i cannot use the sudo commando
[04:42] <SpaceminD> i dont have perms to use
[04:42] <nalioth> kbrooks: it can be done, you just lose your settings on reboot
[04:42] <Hieronymus> !sudo
[04:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:42] <nalioth> SpaceminD: the specifics, please?
[04:43] <QaDeS> -.- the guide in the wiki doesn't work
[04:43] <SpaceminD> i have been around my sound drivers and i think i have changes the sudo perm to my user rdo
[04:43] <Hieronymus> QaDeS: which guide?
[04:43] <kbrooks> nalioth, should alien be recommendeeeeed to ANY ubuntu user?
[04:43] <QaDeS> how do i include the extra thingy in apt anyway?
[04:43] <Determinist> erm , what's wrong with this thing :/
[04:43] <SpaceminD> now i dont have any permitions to use sudo
[04:43] <QaDeS> for JDK1.5
[04:43] <SpaceminD> i did boot with another live distro and dis mount my hda1 and chrooted it
[04:43] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: you could use sudo before?
[04:43] <nalioth> kbrooks: tools are tools, they can be recommened with pros and cons and allow the user to make up their mind
[04:44] <antok> hai
[04:44] <SpaceminD> yes, i have use sudo before
[04:44] <nalioth> kbrooks: there are some things only available in RPM (unfortunately)
[04:44] <fortran01> what excellent planner tool can you recommend for Linux?
[04:44] <[koji] > QaDes: I believe what you need is the backports repo
[04:44] <kbrooks> nalioth, you're right, but rpm is incompatible with debian/ubuntu
[04:45] <nalioth> kbrooks: and that is what alien is for (if necessary)
[04:45] <QaDeS> [koji] , what's the line i need to add into sources.lst? ^^
[04:45] <tyrchyus> italiani?
[04:45] <nalioth> fortran01: like a PIM?
[04:45] <kbrooks> nalioth, *I* have used alien once before...to convert a xawtv rpm to a xawtv debian format
[04:45] <Hieronymus> !backports
[04:45] <ubotu> backports is, like, at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:45] <Hieronymus> !sources
[04:45] <ubotu> [sources]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:45] <Hieronymus> !repos
[04:45] <nalioth> tyrchyus: #ubuntu-it
[04:45] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:45] <Coopa> nalioths: Sorry, my mistake
[04:45] <tyrchyus> thank
[04:45] <[koji] > deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:45] <[koji] > deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:45] <QaDeS> cool, ty
[04:46] <nalioth> Coopa: no mistake, i'd just have hundreds of pm windows open if i used them
[04:46] <fortran01> nalioth: yeah but I think PIM contains more, I just want stuff related to time scheduling
[04:46] <SpaceminD> Hieronymus: i have removed my normal user from sudoers by trying to add my user -G audio and now i cannot use the sudo, can you give me some help
[04:46] <tarlio> hello, could someone help me mounting my partitions?
[04:46] <H4wgD0ly> Can anyone here play midis on Ubuntu?
[04:46] <nalioth> QaDeS: use the sequence the dog sent you for java
[04:46] <nalioth> fortran01: so you're not interested in evolution?
[04:46] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: well, if you can't sudo, how would you change it? :?
[04:47] <kbrooks> are backports OK to use atm
[04:47] <kbrooks> Hieronymus, easy:
[04:47] <fortran01> nalioth: evolution has email. i want something without the email
[04:47] <kbrooks> init=/bin/bash
[04:47] <nalioth> fortran01: you on ubuntu now? with all the repos enabled?
[04:47] <SpaceminD> Hieronymus: mounting the fs with another distro and editing the sudo file
[04:48] <kbrooks> dirty, wtf?
[04:48] <dirty> kbrooks ?
[04:48] <kbrooks> dirty, what are you advertising here? is it revelant to ubuntu?
[04:48] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: that could work
[04:48] <fortran01> nalioth: you can also just give me the name please. thanks
[04:48] <SpaceminD> Hieronymus: i dont know the file to add my user again neither the commando
[04:48] <[koji] > kbrooks: backports is fine with me
[04:48] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: the sudoers file
[04:48] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: maybe try man sudoers for info
[04:48] <dirty> kbrooks lol i wan`t some trade to do
[04:48] <nalioth> fortran01: idk the name, i was gonna have you use synaptic to search
[04:48] <H4wgD0ly> should I conclude from the lack of responses that it's impossible to play midi on ubuntu?
[04:49] <kbrooks> dirty, is the advertising revelant to ubuntu
[04:49] <antok> popey
[04:49] <fortran01> nalioth: idk? are you using it?
[04:49] <Hieronymus> SpaceminD: yep, there's a man-page for sudoers
[04:49] <tarlio> thanks @spacemin ;) but could you translate it? its my first linux and its running since yesterday
[04:49] <kbrooks> H4wgD0ly, no
[04:49] <dirty> what ?
[04:49] <nalioth> fortran01: i dont use planning software, but i know some exists
[04:49] <nalioth> kbrooks: you are feeding
[04:49] <kbrooks> huh?
[04:49] <fortran01> nalioth: ok let me try that
[04:49] <SpaceminD> Hieronymus: the sudoers file is readonly, how can i set it to could edit it.
[04:50] <Hieronymus> with sudo :/
[04:50] <Hieronymus> ofcourse
[04:50] <Hieronymus> :/
[04:50] <kbrooks> ;)
[04:50] <nalioth> fortran01: in 'pkg name and contents' i'd look for 'plan'
[04:50] <H4wgD0ly> kbrooks, so, did you play midis on ubuntu or know someone who did?
[04:50] <antok> www.antok.com
[04:50] <nalioth> SpaceminD: if you can gain root access to your box, you may use "visudo" to update the sudoers file
[04:51] <kbrooks> H4wgD0ly, no. i'm deaf. it should in thoery be possible to play midis in ubuntu
[04:51] <kbrooks> H4wgD0ly, i dont know how
[04:51] <SpaceminD> visudo
[04:51] <SpaceminD> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Read-only file system
[04:51] <ch_604> !resolution
[04:51] <ubotu> resolution is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:51] <ch_604> ty
[04:51] <nalioth> SpaceminD: you'll have to gain root access to your box
[04:52] <nalioth> SpaceminD: boot up in rescue mode
[04:52] <brenner> H4wgD0ly: search for midi in synaptic or use apt-cache search.  there are a heap of results.
[04:52] <Hieronymus> ch_604: that's not a good keyword
[04:52] <Hieronymus> !forget resolution
[04:52] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot resolution
[04:52] <Hieronymus> !fixvideo is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:52] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[04:52] <Hieronymus> !fixvideo
[04:52] <nalioth> reka: brenner?
[04:52] <ubotu> fixvideo is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:52] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[04:52] <ubotu> :)
[04:53] <nalioth> Hieronymus: please put it back under resolution
[04:53] <Hieronymus> nalioth: why?
[04:53] <Hieronymus> !unremove resolution
[04:53] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:53] <reka> nalioth: oh come on.  don't you get bored of the same nick every day? :)
[04:53] <nalioth> Hieronymus: because lots of poeple know it under that trigger
[04:53] <ch_604> :D
[04:53] <ch_604> !good bot
[04:53] <ubotu> thanks ch_604 :)
[04:53] <Hieronymus> !unforget resolution
[04:53] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Successfully recovered 'resolution'.  Have fun now.
[04:53] <ch_604> :P
[04:54] <Hieronymus> ch_604: he's cute, huh?
[04:54] <nalioth> Hieronymus: adding "fixvideo" doesnt alter the other trigger "resolution"
[04:54] <H4wgD0ly> reka, how would reading a list of package names, some of them i installed in vain attempt to get midi to play, helps?
[04:54] <Hieronymus> nalioth: I know
[04:54] <Hieronymus> btw, resolution should be 'at xx'
[04:55] <Hieronymus> will do that in private chat with ubotu
[04:55] <Hieronymus> !resolution
[04:55] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:56] <H4wgD0ly> reka, i don't mean to sound evil but i already spent quite a few hours trying to play midi :(
[04:57] <budish76> hello all
[04:57] <budish76> anyone know how to run init level 3
[04:57] <nightswim> "init 3"
[04:57] <Hieronymus> sudo init 3
[04:57] <reka> H4wgD0ly: well, i was trying to direct you to some possible dedicated mdi players.
[04:57] <budish76> nothing happen
[04:58] <reka> H4wgD0ly: but if you're happy with something like bmp/xmms, i'm sure there's a midi plugin
[04:58] <budish76> just try init 3 and sudo init 3
[04:58] <budish76> nothing happen
[04:58] <Hieronymus> budish76: man init might help
[04:59] <H4wgD0ly> reka, it's not that i don't have a midi player installed. it's just that the ones i tried (KMid and pmidi) don't work.
[04:59] <HappyFool> budish76: what do you expect to happen ? runlevels on ubuntu are different to fedora/suse
[04:59] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: except for 0,1,6 ofcourse
[05:00] <budish76> need to run on level 3
[05:00] <HappyFool> budish76: what needs to run on level 3?
[05:00] <budish76> so i'm able to install nvidia driver
[05:00] <reka> H4wgD0ly: checked this out yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:00] <Hieronymus> budish76: why?
[05:00] <H4wgD0ly> reka, yes
[05:00] <Hieronymus> won't killing X be enough?
[05:00] <budish76> because it only can be installed without x running
[05:00] <HappyFool> budish76: have you been to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[05:00] <reka> H4wgD0ly: and no result?
[05:01] <Hieronymus> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:01] <HappyFool> afaik the ubuntu provided deb can be run even when X is running
[05:01] <budish76> try to find info on that thks
[05:01] <HappyFool> you obviously need to restart X
[05:01] <budish76> driver provided not in deb
[05:01] <budish76> but should be run by sh
[05:01] <HappyFool> budish76: the nvidia driver is
[05:01] <H4wgD0ly> reka, the "timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os1l -s 44100" line fails, saying: Can't open pcm device 'default'.Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')
[05:02] <HappyFool> budish76: please read the wiki page
[05:02] <budish76> ok i'll try
[05:02] <budish76> thks
[05:02] <H4wgD0ly> reka, and /dev/sndstat says Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[05:04] <reka> H4wgD0ly: the first problem sounds like you don't have alsa configured/setup....
[05:05] <H4wgD0ly> reka, sounds like we're getting somewhere. what should i do / check to get alsa configured?
[05:06] <exhu> Excuse me, I'm new to ubuntu and linux, but have some month experience... In short: I have installed firestarter firewall utility for gnome, but after I log-in into gnome desktop, an error message is displayed that there's not enough privileges
[05:06] <Belutz_newbie_on> HappyFool: can i access my NTFS hdd from Ubuntu live CD?
[05:06] <reka> just a sec
[05:06] <exhu> to run firestarter. i.e. root is needed. Which config file have I to modify?
[05:07] <HappyFool> Belutz_newbie_on: you should be able to read your ntfs drive
[05:07] <nalioth> Belutz_newbie_on: just don't write to it
[05:07] <Determinist> what would be a good firewall to use with unbuntu?
[05:07] <nalioth> clients are calling
[05:07] <nick__> how do I tile my windows in X-chat ?
[05:08] <nalioth_wrkn> Determinist: you have a firewall built in
[05:08] <Belutz_newbie_on> HappyFool, nalioth_wrkn: ok thx, be back on Ubuntu... just finished burning the Live CD (yayyy!!!)
[05:08] <nalioth_wrkn> Determinist: it's called iptables
[05:08] <reka> H4wgD0ly: i suggest you wait for crimsun to pass by here.  he's the resident sound guru.
[05:08] <nalioth_wrkn> Determinist: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[05:08] <Hieronymus> Determinist: iptables with firestarter front-end
[05:08] <Hieronymus> !firewall
[05:08] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:08] <H4wgD0ly> reka, at what times is he usually around?
[05:09] <reka> H4wgD0ly: i could point you to some forum links.  but they could possibly be the wrong thing you need, which is why i'm trying to defer.
[05:09] <budish71> Hieronymus: sorry need the command to stop x again pls
[05:09] <reka> H4wgD0ly: he was on ~5 hrs ago
[05:09] <Hieronymus> budish71: I'd say, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:09] <Hieronymus> if Xorg still runs after that, kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:09] <dabaR> hey. Its about 8 where he is, or 9 am.
[05:10] <reka> H4wgD0ly: this thread has been registered with ubotu so it probably has some merit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:10] <reka> H4wgD0ly: but again, might want to wait for crimsun.
[05:10] <nick__> Hi reka, my windows 2003 and ubuntu installation worked 100%, no glitches whatsoever
[05:11] <reka> nick__: ah, i remember you.  good to hear. :)
[05:11] <budish71> thks
[05:11] <budish71> btw it works
[05:11] <budish71> thks
[05:11] <reka> nick__: no data loss? ;)
[05:11] <nick__> reka no nothing, Ubuntu even picked up ALL the notebook devices, i'm impressed
[05:11] <kbrooks> ok
[05:12] <kbrooks> i'm a new user mentor now!
[05:12] <Hieronymus> !firewall is program to stop intruders. Ubuntu comes with iptables. Graphical front-end: Firestarter
[05:12] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[05:13] <kbrooks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserMentors
[05:15] <kbrooks> exhu, why?
[05:15] <kbrooks> dang
[05:15] <kbrooks> Sevesas is not ere
[05:15] <kbrooks> here*
[05:15] <twidget> transgress: you available?
[05:15] <dobwan> ubotu help
[05:16] <kbrooks> dobwan, what do you need?
[05:16] <nick__> anyone, how do I tile my windows in X-chat there seems to be no menu option
[05:16] <stevenj> Whats the best way to play video using hoary-I installed totem-xine, but I do not want to use backports for anything. thanks
[05:16] <exhu> kbrooks, could you help me? have you read my question?
[05:16] <kbrooks> exhu, repeat it, please.
[05:17] <[koji] > nick__: i don't think you can do that, you can detach it though
[05:17] <twidget> transgress: I'm told you run a webcam under Kubuntu? Is that true?
[05:17] <nick__> oh I see, can you tile tabs ?
[05:18] <exhu> what are the startup files for x11+gnome? A message box is displayed just when I log-in GNOME destop. The message says it tries to launch firestarter. So in what file is it ordered to launch one?
[05:18] <reka> ubotu: totemcodecs is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:18] <ubotu> reka: okay
[05:18] <DekaPink>  --; Where do I put xmms themes? Heh...
[05:18] <reka> stevenj: there you go.
[05:18] <stevenj> reka, thanks alot
[05:18] <Ruslan> reka:Thank's
[05:18] <dobwan> kbrooks, I was wondering about ubotu, help showed help in another window
[05:18] <dobwan> ubotu, seen whiprush
[05:18] <ubotu> whiprush is currently on #ubuntu (13h 48m 46s)
[05:18] <Determinist> can one of you guys try accessing detersub.homedns.org with a browser , i wanna check if my firewall+apache works right
[05:19] <reka> Ruslan: yw.  for what? :)
[05:19] <dabaR> so you are trying to disable firestarter from launching?
[05:19] <nick__> oops I just lost my other chat windows...grrrr
[05:19] <barkley> speaking of apache...i can't get it on badger
[05:19] <Hieronymus> !seen Treenaks
[05:19] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'treenaks', Hieronymus
[05:19] <[koji] > Determinist: its accessible
[05:19] <Determinist> cool , thanks
[05:19] <nick__> Determinist, yes
[05:20] <exhu> dabaR, i have to disable because it can't launch, it says it must be root who launches firestarter. I.e. there's an error in some of the start-up files or so.
[05:20] <GNULinuxer> kbrooks: you know any admin of the unp ?
[05:20] <dabaR> exhu: so you want to stop it from autolaunching when you log in. If you are using gnome, that is in System>Prefs>Sessions
[05:21] <stevenj> reka, will i need essessial codec DL or just all codec DL from the mplayer site...the Wiki does not say. thanks!
[05:22] <swarm> Ubuntu Hoary for AMD64 has still a lot of problems. You should create a channel or web section for such issues.
[05:22] <dobwan> for the channel, I'm currently running something other than ubuntu and planning on changing to ubuntu. Defining the plan but I want nore knowledge. So I was hopping to chat up Whiprush, he seems to be not present so I'll be patient and catch up with him later.
[05:22] <kbrooks> GNULinuxer, no.'
[05:22] <WhiteRabbit> Intergalactic freedom cows are dancing around my room right now
[05:22] <stevenj> reka, sorry it does say! it says "all"
[05:22] <GNULinuxer> kbrooks: how do you get into the `elite' team of new user helpers?
[05:22] <Hieronymus> !seen Whiprush
[05:22] <ubotu> whiprush is currently on #ubuntu (13h 52m 55s)
[05:23] <reka> stevenj: i think the all package isn't available anymore
[05:23] <reka> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[05:23] <zero_> How do I use the root account?
[05:24] <apokryphos> !rootsudo
[05:24] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:24] <dobwan> Hieronymus, yea that is what I found out.
[05:24] <stevenj> reka, 'all' is still avaiable http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html thanks
[05:24] <apokryphos> zero_: ubuntu uses sudo; check the link provided above.
[05:24] <zero_> Okay
[05:24] <reka> stevenj: get 'em while you can :)
[05:25] <dabaR> they rejected the bil anyhow
[05:25] <stevenj> reka, def. backed up now
[05:25] <dabaR> bill
[05:25] <reka> dabaR: i haven't been keeping up with the issue...so we "win"?
[05:26] <dabaR> no, its really postponed, cause they did not like the currently proposed bill
[05:26] <dabaR> they wanna make it even worse:)
[05:26] <reka> eek
[05:26] <dabaR> who knows, I really did not read too much about it, but they postponed it, the current bill was rejected, with a message that in the current form, it does not benefit anyone.
[05:27] <dabaR> :---/
[05:27] <kbrooks> GNULinuxer, read
[05:27] <kbrooks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserMentors
[05:27] <ramblingturtle23> anybody know where a good place to start learning bash scripting is at online or a book
[05:28] <HappyFool> ramblingturtle23: there are a few bash tuts at tldp.org, i think
[05:28] <surlyone> commandline.com
[05:28] <exhu> dabaR, there's nothing in the Sessions window -> Startup programs list
[05:28] <GNULinuxer> kbrooks: i have read it ... now it says i need permission to join the group
[05:28] <dabaR> there is an online "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" at tldp.org.
[05:28] <crouton> howdy folks
[05:28] <kbrooks> GNULinuxer, *refreshes*
[05:28] <dabaR> GNULinuxer: it will be done within few hours, also check your email.
[05:29] <GNULinuxer> dabaR: fine ... thanks
[05:29] <crouton> anybody familiar with Alltray?
[05:29] <dabaR> exhu: nothing there, and yet the firestarter program loads when you start up?
[05:29] <Ruslan> How can I set Dial-Up connection?
[05:29] <neoliminal> hello, I just installed ubuntu on my desktop machine and everything is/was going swimmingly but after I log in I only see the mouse and a brown background.  I did log in, but I don't know what to do next... no desktop icons or anything else.
[05:29] <Hieronymus> neoliminal: no panel?
[05:29] <crouton> dabaR, was exhu's question about firestarter and minimizing?
[05:29] <swarm> Ubuntu Hoary for AMD64 is broken in most parts. Where I can report it and get answers to fix problems?
[05:30] <dabaR> neoliminal: hit alt+ctrl+f4 and sign in.
[05:30] <HappyFool> swarm: try bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <ramblingturtle23> wow the tldp.org link will really help me out thanks
[05:30] <Hieronymus> swarm: answers here
[05:30] <Hieronymus> !bugs
[05:30] <neoliminal> dabaR: ok done
[05:30] <dabaR> crouton: no, it wasabout firestarter starting up at sign in to gnome, and he wants it gone.
[05:30] <Belutz> HappyFool, i'm using Ubuntu live CD now :D
[05:31] <dabaR> neoliminal: now, adduser newUserName
[05:31] <dabaR> gie him a password, and go back to alt+ctrl+f7
[05:31] <HappyFool> Belutz: good stuff ;)
[05:31] <HappyFool> Belutz: everything working? sound/network etc?
[05:31] <crouton> dabaR: Ah.  Do you know why minimizing Firestarter doesn't put it back in the tray, I'm having that issue.
[05:31] <dabaR> if still at the brown screen, hit alt+ctrl+backspace to restart the
[05:31] <dabaR> X server,
[05:31] <Belutz> network is fine... sound is fine... widescreen is fine...
[05:31] <swarm> Hieronymus: so I should report to bugzilla.ubuntu.com with details and using bugzilla id talk about possible answers here?
[05:32] <Hieronymus> ubotu: bug is to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[05:32] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[05:32] <Hieronymus> !bug
[05:32] <ubotu> it has been said that bug is to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[05:33] <Belutz> HappyFool, how do i mount my notebook NTFS hdd?
[05:33] <reka> Hieronymus: you're doing a nifty job at adding defs. :)
[05:33] <HappyFool> Belutz: start a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> Terminal)
[05:33] <Hieronymus> reka: thanks :)
[05:33] <dbernar1> now try signing in with the new user once you get the ubuntu sign in screen again
[05:33] <neoliminal> davaR: it's started.... how do I log in as the other person now?
[05:33] <dbernar1> just type in his user name and password.
[05:33] <HappyFool> Belutz: type 'sudo fdisk -l' to get a list of partitions linux can find -- one of them will be your ntfs partition
[05:33] <Hieronymus> swarm: if you experience bugs, report them there
[05:34] <crouton> nevermind, I'm a dumbass.  'Minimize to tray on window close'. Oy.
[05:34] <Hieronymus> if you want solutions, you might try here, swarm
[05:34] <Belutz> HappyFool, ok, trying it
[05:34] <dbernar1> I was gonna say that, crouton .
[05:34] <crouton> Beat ya. ;)
[05:34] <dbernar1> well, not the dumbass part...
[05:34] <dbernar1> :)
[05:34] <HappyFool> Belutz: then 'mkdir /mnt/windows' and 'mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda<something>' /mnt/windows'
[05:34] <HappyFool> Belutz: you need to sudo both of those
[05:34] <crouton> I installed AllTray in my dumb search.. are there any apps that AllTray is useful for?
[05:35] <LaserADSL> hi
[05:35] <dbernar1> yo
[05:35] <swarm> Hieronymus: one of problems is about totem and gxine. they both crash both gnome and kde when I try to open a video file.
[05:35] <neoliminal> dbernar1: was that answer for me?
[05:35] <Hieronymus> "1. Very good; excellent; -- an informal term meaning about the same as groovy, sense 1. informal, 1960's" well thank you reka. Groovy! :)
[05:35] <Belutz> HappyFool, ok
[05:35] <LaserADSL> is there any German speaking channel?
[05:35] <dbernar1> neoliminal: yes, just sign in with the new user name and password.
[05:35] <neoliminal> I did.
[05:35] <Hieronymus> swarm: that's definitely a bug
[05:36] <dbernar1> neoliminal: better?
[05:36] <neoliminal> will I be able to log in as the first user now?
[05:36] <dbernar1> or still hangs?
[05:36] <swarm> Hieronymus: strace log is enough?
[05:36] <neoliminal> no, it's working for the second user
[05:36] <Hieronymus> swarm: try to gather info on when it happens, how it happens, if there's any error message, and post it on bugzilla
[05:36] <dbernar1> well, I am not sure, did you add any programs to the startup list, to start when you sign in?
[05:36] <neoliminal> no
[05:36] <neoliminal> just installed
[05:36] <swarm> Hieronymus: I can collect info with strace and report the log to bugzilla
[05:36] <Belutz> HappyFool, it works :D
[05:36] <dbernar1> weird. Hoary install?
[05:37] <neoliminal> yes
[05:37] <HappyFool> Belutz: good stuff
[05:37] <neoliminal> newest
[05:37] <neoliminal> updates available...
[05:37] <onno> I want to run a php page but I the question if I want to open phtml?
[05:37] <neoliminal> hold on
[05:37] <Hieronymus> swarm: sounds good enough
[05:37] <onno> Wath should I do to help this?
[05:37] <dbernar1> neoliminal: add this new user to sudoers, then, remove the old user, and add a new one with the same name. Remember to back up files in the blocked users home folder.
[05:37] <Belutz> HappyFool, what movie extension that Totem can play?
[05:38] <dbernar1> the rootsudo page on the wiki may tell you about sudoers, I am not sure.
[05:38] <HappyFool> Belutz: by default not many
[05:38] <neoliminal> ok
[05:38] <Belutz> HappyFool, ic, ok
[05:38] <dbernar1> but do not remove the first user until the new user has sudo provileges.
[05:38] <Hieronymus> !rootsudo
[05:38] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:38] <twidget> Anyone help me get a LAME encoder properly configured in Grip?
[05:38] <neoliminal> where do I add to sudoers?
[05:38] <Ruslan> Support ubuntu modem?
[05:39] <HappyFool> Belutz: try some avi's -- depends on the codec
[05:39] <dbernar1> yes it does say how to add new sudoers.
[05:39] <Belutz> HappyFool, ok
[05:39] <indigirl1> how do i put a cap on cpu usage for a single process?
[05:39] <neoliminal> ok
[05:39] <dbernar1> neoliminal: user administration(adding and removing) can also be done through the gnome GUI, in the SYstem>Admin menu.
[05:39] <onno> Wath should I do to help this?
[05:39] <onno> I want to run a php page but I the question if I want to open phtml?
[05:39] <Gourami> are codecs installed through synaptic ? mp3/mpg etc ?
[05:40] <dbernar1> onno: what browser?
[05:40] <HappyFool> Ruslan: do you know what modem you have?
[05:40] <dieffel> anyone who have tried the latest version of Ubuntu Breezy? Is it worth a try or what?
[05:40] <WhiteRabbit> dieffel, it's the foshizzle
[05:40] <Gourami> dieffel, read the topic
[05:40] <neoliminal> what is the password for user... it wont accept either of the ones I made, is that a standard root password?
[05:40] <onno> firefox
[05:40] <WhiteRabbit> dieffel, but Breezy has been known to eat small children so be careful
[05:40] <reka> dieffel: it's still in development.  i advise against it if you don't know what you're doing
[05:40] <Hieronymus> dieffel: it's nice
[05:40] <dbernar1> dieffel: /topic, and also, it may break your system, and people here are unlikely to know or weant  to help you if it does.
[05:40] <Ruslan> HappyFool: WinModem USR-Robotics
[05:41] <Hieronymus> dieffel: it has nifty new features
[05:41] <reka> Gourami: depends on the codec
[05:41] <dbernar1> neoliminal: ah, yeah, you cant use the SYstem menu, right?
[05:41] <neoliminal> right
[05:41] <Gourami> reka its a new installation so I need most, mp3/mpg/dvd
[05:41] <dbernar1> neoliminal: go back to f4 where you are signed in as the first user.
[05:41] <HappyFool> Ruslan: you will probably need to get a kernel module ("driver") for your modem
[05:41] <dieffel> what is different in breezy compared to hoary???
[05:41] <neoliminal> ok
[05:42] <dieffel> Hieronymus: ?^
[05:42] <reka> Gourami: check out the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki
[05:42] <WhiteRabbit> reka, theres no such thing I tell you
[05:42] <Hieronymus> dieffel: system -> administration :)
[05:42] <dabaR> neoliminal: then do adduser newusername admin
[05:42] <Gourami> url pls reka
[05:42] <reka> !restricted
[05:42] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:42] <HappyFool> Ruslan: i suggest going here: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ and getting the scanModem utility -- that should tell you what module to install
[05:42] <azol> hi all. is there any way to create cd's (or dvd's) a full ubuntu (hoary) mirror? is it possible? debian-cd seems not to do the trick :(
[05:42] <HappyFool> Ruslan: unfortunately it's not too straightforward
[05:43] <Gourami> thanks
[05:43] <Hieronymus> dieffel: it has grub/boot editor, system disks configurator, running services on/off config, :)
[05:43] <Hieronymus> dieffel: and ofcourse, new packages! Bleeding edge :)
[05:43] <dieffel> Hieronymus: nice!
[05:43] <dbernar1> neoliminal: did that say added newusername to admin group?
[05:43] <neoliminal> yes
[05:43] <dbernar1> ok, try accessing the system menu now.
[05:43] <neoliminal> it's working
[05:44] <Belutz> HappyFool, is there any cd burning software included in live cd ?
[05:44] <dbernar1> good:)
[05:44] <HappyFool> Belutz: i don't know
[05:44] <Hieronymus> dieffel: I just noticed, preferences has an 'about me' to change user profile
[05:44] <WhiteRabbit> reka, care to guess how many fingers Im holding up now! its more than 1 ;)~
[05:44] <neoliminal> so now delete the first user?
[05:44] <dbernar1> now you are sudoer with that user.
[05:44] <neoliminal> and make him again.
[05:44] <Hieronymus> dieffel: password etc
[05:44] <reka> :)
[05:44] <dbernar1> yes, I think you should do it through the System>?Admin menu.
[05:44] <dbernar1> yes
[05:44] <neoliminal> I'm in users and groups
[05:44] <dieffel> Hieronymus: ok
[05:44] <reka> Belutz: nautilus can burn
[05:45] <dbernar1> and then add him to the admin group, or follow the instructions from the rootsudo wiki, there is a link above, if you have not seen it yet.
[05:45] <dieffel> Hieronymus: do u have links to some screenshots?
[05:45] <Hieronymus> dieffel: it looks pretty much the same
[05:45] <dieffel> Hieronymus: ok
[05:45] <Hieronymus> dieffel: do you want me to make some of the new features?
[05:45] <Belutz> reka: how?
[05:45] <Hieronymus> dieffel: oh, and Synaptic searching is much faster
[05:46] <reka> Belutz: drag and drop i'd assume...can't recall the exact process
[05:46] <zaki> hi everyone
[05:46] <Gourami> what package comes with Ubuntu for playing mp3's
[05:46] <dieffel> Hieronymus: what do u mean with 'make'?
[05:46] <Belutz> reka: ic... so i can't burn from an .iso file?
[05:46] <zaki> can any one tell me what is backports
[05:47] <Hieronymus> dieffel: I'm sorry, I meant make screenshots
[05:47] <thegrok> !backports
[05:47] <ubotu> from memory, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:47] <neoliminal> ok
[05:47] <neoliminal> thanks!!
[05:47] <thegrok> !bittorrent
[05:47] <ubotu> thegrok: Are you smoking crack?
[05:47] <thegrok> hahaha
[05:47] <reka> Belutz: i *think* it's possible.
[05:47] <zaki> thnaks ubotu
[05:47] <Hieronymus> thegrok: add it
[05:47] <dieffel> Hieronymus: that would be nice.
[05:47] <thegrok> how do i?
[05:47] <Hieronymus> zaki: you say "!good bot"
[05:47] <dbernar1> zaki: it is newer versions of software, ported to the older version of the distribution.
[05:47] <dbernar1> !good bot
[05:47] <ubotu> thanks dbernar1 :)
[05:48] <Hieronymus> thegrok: open a private chat with ubot and type "help"
[05:48] <Albaraha> Is it safe to use sudo to copy some executable files to one of PATH's dirs while ubuntu doesn't change the owner to be the root?
[05:48] <reka> !bad bot
[05:48] <ubotu> reka: I give up, what is it?
[05:48] <dbernar1> baha
[05:48] <Belutz> reka: ok
[05:48] <thegrok> actually what's a good bt client for gnome?
[05:48] <dbernar1> welcome, neoliminal, sorry it did that:)
[05:48] <reka> guess you can't scold him
[05:48] <Hieronymus> reka: I wish for that to be implemented as well
[05:48] <reka> :)
[05:48] <dbernar1> Hieronymus: it is easy, you can add it...
[05:48] <Ruslan> happyFool: ok
[05:49] <Hieronymus> dbernar1: yes, with 'is', but I want it to be dynamical/random, like !good bot
[05:49] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[05:49] <ubotu> :)
[05:49] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[05:49] <WhiteRabbit> Hieronymus, get a room u 2..
[05:49] <HappyFool> heh
[05:49] <Albaraha> !help
[05:50] <kbrooks> ok
[05:50] <mpmc> Hello all..
[05:50] <Hieronymus> hello mpmc
[05:50] <HappyFool> i think i hate nethack
[05:50] <Albaraha> !help slashdot
[05:50] <jadugarr84> thegrok, gnomebittorent is a simple torrent program for gnome
[05:50] <mpmc> I'm new to linux, so, Please bare with me.
[05:50] <Belutz> reka: can i remove the CD while i'm using ubuntu using livecd ???
[05:50] <Albaraha> !slashdot
[05:50] <mpmc> !help
[05:51] <dbernar1> Albaraha: well, is it safe...it does what it does, you think about it. You would have executable files in the path, and their owner would be someone other than root.
[05:51] <WhiteRabbit> !start a world war
[05:51] <ubotu> WhiteRabbit: I give up, what is it?
[05:51] <HappyFool> i had cleaver *and* ogresmasher *and* a resurrection amulet and i still died
[05:51] <Hieronymus> mpmc: that's help from the ubuntu bot (ubotu)
[05:51] <dbernar1> You can still remove permissions from everyone other than that user.
[05:51] <thegrok> jadugarr84: i'm using that right now....and it hangs after awhile
[05:51] <mpmc> ok lol
[05:51] <crouton> Is there a #firestarter on a server somewhere? There isn't one on the freenode.net network.
[05:51] <thegrok> did you check the firestarter website?
[05:51] <crouton> yes
[05:51] <action09_> hi anyone has a link to make sound blaster live 24 bits (lspci --> 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS) working please ?:)
[05:51] <reka> Belutz: not sure about that.  i actually think the drive will be locked.  i assumed you had two drives :)
[05:52] <mpmc> lol :)
[05:52] <dbernar1> crouton: what are you trying to do with firestarter
[05:52] <jadugarr84> thegrok: you could try azureus ... its java program but work well in gnome
[05:52] <crouton> dbernar1: Just trying to set up policies, figure out how to stealth ports, the usual. :)
[05:52] <Gourami> reka, the wiki says nothing about music player ?
[05:52] <Belutz> reka: ow ic.... i'm running it on my laptop...
[05:52] <mpmc> now after 10 reinstall of ubunto I think.. I got the hang of it.
[05:52] <thegrok> ports are all stealthed by default
[05:53] <Belutz> reka: i'm trying ubuntu live cd before i migrate from windows to ubuntu :p
[05:53] <mpmc> Erm.. why doesn't ubunto come with MP3 support
[05:53] <toran> hey guys, how do I get my libtunepimp to support MP3's so I can look them up on musicbrainz?
[05:53] <thegrok> jadugarr84: is it on apt-get?
[05:53] <crouton> thegrok: I'd thought so, but running the Sygate scan shows port 113 (ident) as closed, not blocked.
[05:53] <crouton> mpac - licensing issues?
[05:53] <jrobcet> action09_: What exactly are having trouble with?
[05:53] <thegrok> crouton: that's strange....did you actually start that daemon on ubuntu?
[05:53] <crouton> er, mpmc..
[05:53] <reka> Gourami: mp3 support: install beep-media-player/xmms that come with their own codec or install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support in totem
[05:53] <crouton> thegrok: Aye, it's running now.
[05:53] <reka> Gourami: for video codecs:
[05:54] <reka> !totemcodecs
[05:54] <ubotu> [totemcodecs]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:54] <mpmc> I install all off them ;)
[05:54] <jadugarr84> thegrok: i don't remember if its on apt-get, but there is a guide to install it in the hoary guide
[05:54] <BeefTube> Woot they are shippinbg my computer today :) can I cut and paste the specs here? is 10 linnes concitered flooding? I want to share the specs to see if Ubuntu is compatible :)
[05:54] <mpmc> installed*
[05:54] <Gourami> ok thanks
[05:54] <toran> hey guys, how do I get my libtunepimp to support MP3's so I can look them up on musicbrainz?
[05:54] <crouton> BeefTube: pastebin
[05:54] <reka> Gourami: or again, install something like xine-ui or vlc.  they come with their own codecs
[05:54] <thegrok> !azureus
[05:54] <ubotu> thegrok: Wish i knew
[05:54] <dbernar1> BeefTube: too many, yes, 10 is a bunch.
[05:54] <BeefTube> Ok thanks
[05:54] <BeefTube> I will cut and paste it all into 1 line :)
[05:54] <mpmc> how do I create a 'shortcut' to a folder on the desktop?
[05:54] <crouton> dbernar1: Are you fairly accomplished with firestarter?
[05:55] <dbernar1> no, I dont use firewalls.
[05:55] <crouton> BeefTube: Read the chan topic, it has a pastebin address.
[05:55] <jadugarr84> thegrok: yes its on apt-get, i just checked
[05:55] <dbernar1> to me, the fact that something is closed and not blocked, means that you never had it open.
[05:55] <BeefTube> mpmc, drag the folder onto your desktopand select link here from the dropdown list
[05:55] <thegrok> jadugarr84: ok thanks....lemme go install it
[05:55] <mpmc> oh ok
[05:55] <thegrok> jadugarr84: how did you check btw?
[05:56] <crouton> dbernar1: Indeed.  Blocked just means it's not responding at all.
[05:56] <BeefTube> you can create a link also, then add teh address and icons to the propertys I think
[05:56] <jadugarr84> thegrok: i have it install myself through apt-get
[05:56] <dbernar1> to me blocked means there is a firewall blocking it.
[05:56] <mpmc> It just copy's the files
[05:56] <dbernar1> create launcher.
[05:56] <thegrok> jadugarr84: ah that's one way...lol...thanks again =)
[05:57] <dbernar1> mpmc: where are the files, and where do you want the shortcut to be?
[05:57] <jadugarr84> thegrok: np
[05:57] <mpmc> in media/windows/media files/ => desktop
[05:57] <BeefTube> just rightclick on the desktop and select new>link and then add the address to the folder
[05:57] <dbernar1> so you want a chortcut from media... to your desktop?
[05:57] <BeefTube> sorry I was thinking of KDE
[05:57] <action09_> jrobcet, just installed Ubuntu Hoary and i haven't sound. i'm asking myself what do i check .. especially what's the name of the Audigy module.. please ?:=)
[05:57] <mpmc> yes
[05:58] <dbernar1> just a sec
[05:58] <mpmc> what do I put in the command part of create launcher
[05:58] <BeefTube> action09 if you can look at the soundcard, sometimes they print the name on the circut board...
[05:59] <BeefTube> mpmc the folder's address
[05:59] <mpmc> I tried that
[05:59] <jrobcet> action09_: Have you checked to make sure the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack in alsamixer is enabled? It is usually the culprit with Audigy sound issues...
[05:59] <action09_> BeefTube, yes:) on my old live player 1024 it was emu10k1 but on this one only creative..
[05:59] <mpmc> but when I run it nothin happens
[05:59] <dbernar1> mpmc: file:///media/windows/media\ files
[05:59] <BeefTube> ummm, did you try to drag and drop it with right mouse button?
[05:59] <action09_> jrobcet, i will :)
[05:59] <mpmc> ok thanks ;)
[06:00] <dbernar1> and select link from the drop down
[06:00] <Belutz> HappyFool, do you know any UML modeler for linux ?
[06:00] <dbernar1> the type drop down,.
[06:00] <dbernar1> then in the URL tyope that n.
[06:01] <reka> Belutz: KDE or gnome?
[06:01] <toran> hey guys, how do I get my libtunepimp to support MP3's so I can look them up on musicbrainz?
[06:01] <reka> libtunepimp?
[06:02] <Belutz> reka: is it better to use Gnome or KDE?
[06:02] <BeefTube> AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3800+ (2.4GHz/512KB L2 Cache)----15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen ---- 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM) ----40 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive --- 8X DVD Drive ---10/100 Ethernet LAN--- 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery..... is this a nice laptop for linux ubuntu AMD 64? TIA i got it for 850$ from compaq...
[06:03] <swarm> toran: liblame0?
[06:03] <toran> reka: it's the library that supplies the binary that nearly all music apps use to look up mp3's on musicbrainz
[06:03] <reka> Belutz: presonally i avoid running KDE apps in non-KDE managers
[06:03] <golgor> i got torrentflux, but i cant upload since linux wont let it save files in certain folders, how to change that?
[06:03] <dbernar1> BeefTube: dunno, go to the wiki and check out the supported hardware laptops section
[06:03] <reka> Belutz: i recommend Dia, which is excellent
[06:03] <golgor> anyone know?
[06:03] <BeefTube> ok thanks :)
[06:03] <reka> Belutz: or umbrello if you're a KDE person
[06:03] <BeefTube> what is a noddy?
[06:03] <dbernar1> golgor: change which folders are used in preferences.
[06:03] <Belutz> reka: ok, i'll search it now
[06:04] <crouton> !cups
[06:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, crouton
[06:04] <alex__> sorry to bother evryone, but can anyone help a confused newbie install Wine?
[06:04] <crouton> Er. Anybody know a good tutorial site for CUPS/samba?
[06:04] <golgor> dbernar1, you mean in torrentflux?
[06:04] <jcoxon> alex__, sudo apt-get install wine
[06:05] <HumanPrototype> hi, firefox's prefs are mucked up and certain websites dont work
[06:05] <alex__> in the console?
[06:05] <HumanPrototype> any solution
[06:05] <rarn> hi, is anyone able to get hplip_toolbox working?
[06:05] <jcoxon> alex__, yup
[06:05] <HumanPrototype> its a problem with some of the xml files in chrome://
[06:05] <alex__> jcoxcon, hmm.  Alright then, thanks
[06:05] <BeefTube> HumanPrototype sometimes when java is disables webpages dont look properly in firefox...
[06:05] <BeefTube> disabled
[06:05] <golgor> dbernar1, isnt is possible to give it access to dir /home/golgor/torrent?
[06:05] <dbernar1> golgor: yes, off course.
[06:06] <action09_> damn no alsaconf, no module for sound.. :(
[06:06] <Trace> Can anybody know sis7012 and snd_intel8x0?
[06:06] <HumanPrototype> like www.ubuntuforums.com? the site doesnt even load, firefox justs pops an error and stops
[06:06] <redx> Does anyone know what has to be done to get internet connections to work at startup without reseting the router?
[06:06] <dbernar1> maybe, go into a terminal, and type in ls -al and tell me what permissions are turned on for .
[06:06] <dbernar1> I mean, go into that folder first.
[06:06] <BeefTube> Trace	 that looks like a Soundmax integrated sound chip from intel.
[06:07] <HumanPrototype> BeefTube, Im pretty sure its not java as i have never had a problem before (its a new system - my hdd died yesterday)
[06:07] <dbernar1> redx: tell me more, what does it do?
[06:07] <golgor> dbernar1, i got all the permissions, my user of course, but i still get error when try to upload torrent "no permission to create file /home/golgor/torrent
[06:07] <dbernar1> and how do you have it set up now, the router, and the computer.
[06:07] <BeefTube> HumanPrototype, are you useing a proxy? might need to be tweaked
[06:07] <redx> It doesn't connect... I can't connect to IRC, or any website...
[06:07] <redx> But if I reset the router, everything works.
[06:08] <Trace> yes, in a short word, i can not hear anysound with driver snd-intel8x0 to sis 7012 integrated sound card.
[06:08] <BeefTube> some proxys block certain websites
[06:08] <dbernar1> golgor: no, I mean, what permissions are set for the /golgor/torrent directory.
[06:08] <redx> I currently have my settings on DHCP.
[06:08] <HumanPrototype> BeefTube, nope, dont think so, i never have before and im just running through a d-link modem router
[06:08] <BeefTube> hmmm...
[06:08] <dbernar1> You know how apache has ts own user, and so on, maybe that torrent program does too,
[06:08] <thomas> ghjf
[06:08] <redx> When I set the static IP address, It imediatly says that there is no connection if I try to do something...
[06:08] <golgor> dbernar1, drwxr-xr-x
[06:08] <dbernar1> redx: so both router, and the computer set for dhcp, hey?
[06:08] <redx> otherwise, it waits for five minutes to tell me that it can't connect.
[06:09] <redx> Yeah.
[06:09] <dbernar1> golgor: go chmod o+w /home/golgor/torrent
[06:09] <dbernar1> that will add the w in the other section.
[06:09] <dbernar1> try then, to see if that works.
[06:10] <HumanPrototype> ill try and see if the mozilla package suffers the same problems
[06:10] <redx> Is there a .conf file I can edit to make things work like in Slackware?
[06:10] <HumanPrototype> hang about - it seems to now be working
[06:10] <HumanPrototype> ODD
[06:11] <redx> in slack I can just edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf
[06:11] <dbernar1> redx: not a magical one for everything, you mean one for setting up the interfaces?
[06:11] <redx> Yeah.
[06:11] <dbernar1> /etc/network/interfaces
[06:12] <golgor> dbernar1, thanks works great now
[06:13] <redx> Hmm, it looks... somwhat similar... but it doesn't have an option for using DHCP
[06:13] <stanford> How do you make it so that ubuntu executes a code in Terminal automaticly, every time you boot?
[06:13] <dbernar1> golgor: yeah, that program has its own user. Dunno if you want to allow write access to everyone
[06:13] <redx> In slack, I had to set my IP address, netmask, DHCP hostname...
[06:13] <Gourami> ok gr8 mp3 works now dvd
[06:14] <dbernar1> stanford: like a script?
[06:14] <redx> But in ubuntu it doesn't ask me if I want to do both, it gives me one or the other....
[06:14] <stanford> dbernarl yeah
[06:14] <stanford> dbernar1*
[06:14] <dbernar1> redx: tried System>admin>netowrking?
[06:14] <redx> Yep.
[06:14] <redx> That was the first place I went.
[06:15] <redx> Default gateway device is set to eth0
[06:15] <dbernar1> stanford: well, not sure what would be the besst way, you want it to run this script only when booting, once, right?
[06:15] <monkeyy> i have installed ubuntu 5.04 (hoary hedgehog) on my Apple iBook how do i enable the right click in it ?
[06:15] <jadugarr84> stanford: you can make a script, set it to executable and add the script to your startup programs under System->Preferences->Sessions
[06:15] <stanford> dbernar1 yeah
[06:15] <jcoxon> monkeyy, try you're F12 button
[06:15] <dbernar1> monkeyy: fn + f12, or just f12
[06:15] <dbernar1> m,an
[06:15] <stanford> jadugarr ok thanks
[06:15] <stanford> jadugarr84*
[06:16] <dradul> stanford, I don't know if I understand your question correctly, but you could look into executing a script with cron (see "man 5 crontab").
[06:16] <monkeyy> jadugarr84 kya haal
[06:16] <Gourami> which is better xine or vlc ?
[06:16] <monkeyy> can someone help me
[06:16] <jcoxon> monkeyy, yes
[06:17] <monkeyy> i have installed ubuntu 5.04 (hoary hedgehog) on my Apple iBook how do i enable the right click in it ?
[06:17] <reka> Gourami: try both. :)   but i've seen vlc recommended more
[06:17] <jcoxon> monkeyy, right click is you're f12 button
[06:17] <dbernar1> jadugarr84: that is totally not what he wants, I think.
[06:17] <golgor> dbernar1, you helped me give it permission to write files right?
[06:17] <Gourami> cool
[06:17] <dbernar1> That means it would start every time he signs into gnome.
[06:17] <dbernar1> golgor: sure.
[06:17] <monkeyy> let me try that out be right back the laptop is in another room
[06:18] <jadugarr84> dbernar1: have a command executed in the terminal every time he boots is what he said
[06:18] <dbernar1> monkeyy: we told you.
[06:18] <dbernar1> yup, so how does that work with sessions?
[06:18] <mpmc> how do I install php support for apache-ssl?
[06:18] <dbernar1> you mean, you boot every time before you sign in, and then shut down the comp after?
[06:19] <jadugarr84> dbernar1: i suppose i should have asked if he meant when he loads gnome though
[06:19] <dbernar1> ya, kinda.
[06:19] <mpmc> oh never mind
[06:19] <golgor> dbernar1, now it is drwxr-xrwx and i guess the last "-" is write directories?
[06:19] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon: Is F12 the only way to right-click using a Mac on Ubuntu?  That's quite a stretch, isn't it?
[06:20] <dbernar1> golgor: first is the d, or - telling you if it is a file or a dir.
[06:20] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, indeed it is - i reckon it could be changed
[06:20] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, something to do with pbbuttond
[06:20] <jcoxon> i'll have a quick look, one sec
[06:20] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon: What is that?
[06:20] <dbernar1> then rwx is for the owner, r-x is for the same group as owner is, say if there was a group of users...and the rwx is for everyone.
[06:20] <catfox> hi all. is it possible to install bootsplash manually?
[06:20] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon: Okay
[06:20] <dbernar1> so owner, group, others
[06:21] <golgor> dbernar1, ahh, think i got it :P
[06:21] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, its the daemon that runs which looks after the special bits of apple laptops with ubuntu
[06:21] <paul_> what package would i need to get a logitech i touch keyboard working? the hot keys in particular
[06:22] <golgor> dbernar1, but i got a similar problem then, if i got it right drwxr means permission to write/read/delete directories?
[06:22] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, (Quick IRC question: How do I complete names of people in IRC?)
[06:22] <monkeyy> thanks jcoxon that worked
[06:22] <dbernar1> each file and folder has its set of permissions.
[06:22] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, you using Xchat?
[06:22] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Yes.
[06:22] <kbrooks> j<tab>
[06:22] <dbernar1> to this /home/golgor/torrents fodler everyone can write, enter the folder, and read anything in it
[06:22] <monkeyy> do we have any preference that can change it to some other key maybe like the ctrl key ?
[06:22] <jcoxon> monkeyy, i'm looking in to making it something different
[06:23] <HaroldJohnson> kbrook, That's not working, for some reason.
[06:23] <jcoxon> monkeyy, give me a sec :)
[06:23] <Blissex> paul_: you would need to find out about keycodes, events, and bindings... Depends whether in X or the console/
[06:23] <dbernar1> Even if someone logs in to your computer through apache(if you run that...
[06:23] <monkeyy> cool
[06:23] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, in preferences you need to turn on autocomplete
[06:23] <ftwig> trying to get get a belkin 802.11g card working but there are no .inf files on the install CD to try to use with ndiswrapper.  Any ideas?
[06:23] <kbrooks> HaroldJohnson, hoary?
[06:23] <been> hello! :)
[06:23] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, and then its just a few letters and then tab
[06:23] <HaroldJohnson> monkeyy, Good questions.  I'm trying to learn the same for my PowerBook.
[06:23] <paul_> ok
[06:24] <golgor> dbernar1, yea, but torrentflux dont have permission to create dirs in my /torrent
[06:24] <monkeyy> cool HaroldJohnson i am running it on a 14" white iBook G4
[06:24] <dbernar1> it does now.
[06:24] <golgor> dbernar1, it seems
[06:24] <Blissex> monkeyy: trying to use something like CTRL as a key and not a modifier would be very unwise, but it can be done. But it is not easy.
[06:24] <dbernar1> it can do anything to the folder, on fact anyone can.
[06:24] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Thank you.
[06:24] <been> is there a simple way to install ubuntu to a machine that can not boot from cd? it can boot from floppy and has got a fast net connection. thank you for a hint!
[06:25] <monkeyy> Blissex the reason being i am so used to press down ctrl and then click for a right click with Mac OS X
[06:25] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Excellent.  Now the auto-complete works.  Thank you.
[06:25] <golgor> dbernar1, Error(s):# Couldn't allocate dir - [Errno 13]  Permission denied:
[06:25] <been> is there a boot/install floppy?
[06:25] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, no probs
[06:25] <monkeyy> but i think F12 is a good alternative
[06:25] <dbernar1> make the dir yourself.
[06:25] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Was it you that was saying you were migrating back from Tiger yesterday?
[06:25] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, yup
[06:26] <HaroldJohnson> monkeyy, I'll try F12 once I turn on the PowerBook.
[06:26] <Blissex> monkeyy: well, the X model of keyboard handling is really different from the MacOS X one, so it is better to go with the grain...
[06:26] <quidam> HI, how i can play a WMA file in ubuntu?
[06:26] <Blissex> to all ofd
[06:26] <golgor> dbernar1, says the path has to be chmodded to 777
[06:26] <monkeyy> yup Blissex infact ubuntu works faster then Panther or Tiger on my ibook
[06:26] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Someone was helping me to install madwifi yesterday, to get my D-Link pcmcia card running.  Unfortunately, we got halfway through compiling and she had to go to sleep.  Do you know anything about this subject?
[06:26] <Blissex> to all of you that use GNU/Linux on Apple systems: really, really get a 3 button mouse.
[06:27] <reka> been: it's definitely possible.  search wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:27] <dbernar1> or 007 would work, they are being silly.
[06:27] <jrobcet> action09_: Does lsmod show the snd_emu10k1 module?
[06:27] <HaroldJohnson> monkeyy, Really?  Are you in gnome?
[06:27] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hehe i'm sure i can help you
[06:27] <been> reka: thanks - ill be looking there! :)
[06:27] <dbernar1> I mean, you can, it is completely the same, 007, or 777, I am being silly.
[06:27] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, wireless is my favourite thing
[06:27] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, The question is, would you want to?
[06:27] <Blissex> quidam: probably you need something like MPlayer with the package with the WIN32 DLLs. Look at the Marillat repository...
[06:27] <monkeyy> i am in gnome
[06:27] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, of course
[06:27] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Really?
[06:27] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hehe yes :)
[06:27] <monkeyy> i am downloading kubuntu as we chat
[06:27] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Awesome!  I'm going to fire up my PowerBook.
[06:27] <dbernar1> im off
[06:28] <quidam> Blissex: ok thanks
[06:28] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, got nothing else to do :) am ill in bed
[06:28] <jadugarr84> quidam, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ ... tells you how to install the win32 codecs
[06:28] <kbrooks> Blissex,
[06:28] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I'm sorry to hear that.  So why go back to Ubuntu after Tiger?
[06:28] <monkeyy> jcoxon i want to dual boot this with Tiger
[06:29] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, oh i have both still
[06:29] <reka> eek
[06:29] <kbrooks> DO NOT recommend the marillat repo
[06:29] <monkeyy> i miss dashboard
[06:29] <kbrooks> !ubuguide
[06:29] <ubotu> kbrooks: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:29] <reka> jadugarr84: please don't advise ubguide either
[06:29] <reka> !ubuntuguide
[06:29] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:29] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, its just you can't break tiger while ubuntu is much more fun to break
[06:29] <jcoxon> monkeyy, i found that after a while i just ignored dashboard
[06:29] <jcoxon> monkeyy, though i loved the speed upgrade
[06:29] <Blissex> kbrooks: well, if one wants to do obscure stuff, they should be able to handle the issues...
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Here's the reason I'm trying Ubuntu (I think): I couldn
[06:30] <kbrooks> Blissex, how about newbies?
[06:30] <monkeyy> jcoxon ubuntu is blazing here
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I couldn't...
[06:30] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, ...get my wireless card to work in Panther.
[06:30] <jcoxon> monkeyy, though in different ways - accelerated 3d graphics won't work
[06:30] <Blissex> kbrooks: thats precisely the issue: adding ''unofficial'' packages and stuff should not be done by newbies...
[06:30] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, what exactly is the card?
[06:30] <been> reka: Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. I found the solution! :)
[06:31] <monkeyy> jcoxon i was not aware of that
[06:31] <reka> been: np.  see you soon :)
[06:31] <jcoxon> monkeyy, yeah basically its running on free drivers
[06:31] <Phrostbyte> Hello!
[06:31] <jcoxon> monkeyy, there aren't any accelerated binaries for ppc, on really for x86
[06:31] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, It's a D-Link DWL-G630.  That's an Atheros chipset, I believe.  Oh, and it's a revision C.
[06:31] <Phrostbyte> I have a question, if anyone's awake yet this morning?
[06:31] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, usb?
[06:31] <kbrooks> Blissex, the ubuntu guide makes you add a repo
[06:32] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Just purchased it about two weeks ago.  USB?  No, it's a pcmcia card.
[06:32] <Loix> how i can ubuntu support RPMS ?
[06:32] <jcoxon> oh okay
[06:32] <Blissex> kbrooks: but I didn't quite advise doing that, just to look into it.
[06:32] <reka> Phrostbyte: ask away
[06:32] <Blissex> Loix: 'man alien'
[06:32] <Phrostbyte> I'm trying to get Gnome going in Xorg as default, but Xterm keeps booting when I do "startx".
[06:32] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Do you think there's a possibility we can get it to work?
[06:32] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, yup
[06:32] <Phrostbyte> I altered the last line of my xinitrc files, but Xterm still boots?
[06:32] <monkeyy> jcoxon i wanna dual boot this with Tiger if i am right i will install Tiger first then install ubuntu and then make the necessary changes in the Yaboot conf file ?
[06:32] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, very confident though it might be a bit of a dirty hack :)
[06:33] <Loix> Blissex, i want rpm command not alien
[06:33] <Loix> ?
[06:33] <Blissex> Phrostbyte: BTW, some suggestions on how to ask questions... http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4
[06:33] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, (I suppose there's *always* a possibility.  The question is, is it realistic to think so?)
[06:33] <slicslak> what app is recommended for scanning?  i've used xsane for years, but it's not the user-friendliest, and this is for my mom.
[06:33] <arentie> When I click-on LimeWire nothing happens...I followed the install instructions on www.ubuntuguide.org.  Can anyone help?
[06:33] <Blissex> Loix: perhaps I suggested to look at 'alien' for a very good reason :-)
[06:33] <jcoxon> monkeyy, yeah ubuntu will automagically include it (well thats what i found)
[06:33] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Want to know my progress so far?
[06:33] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, yup
[06:33] <Loix> ;p
[06:33] <slicslak> arentie, run it from the command line and read the error msg
[06:33] <Blissex> slicslak: well, 'xsane' is nice, but there are also 'gimp', 'Kooka' and a few others.
[06:34] <monkeyy> thats cool jx
[06:34] <gram_> hello all :)
[06:34] <grogoreo> hi
[06:34] <gram_> i need some help please
[06:34] <slicslak> Blissex, thanks.
[06:34] <monkeyy> hey jcoxon when i install Tiger first what is the type of partition i set aside for ubuntu ?
[06:34] <jcoxon> monkeyy, i just left free space
[06:34] <monkeyy> i mean UFS / Mac OS/ Extended ?
[06:34] <Blissex> slicslak: there is even a (cheap) commercial scanner frontend, the name escapes me now.
[06:35] <monkeyy> cool
[06:35] <monkeyy> good idea
[06:35] <reka> gram_: ask away
[06:35] <monkeyy> and then have ubuntu install to free space
[06:35] <gram_> i have a ubuntu warty directly connected to the internet via DSL and set up a simple masquerading/nat iptables script
[06:35] <grogoreo> I am about to download VMware Workstation 5.0 for linux but there are two versions of the download, a tar and an RPM, which one would be best for ubuntu after using alien?
[06:35] <gram_> it works fine
[06:35] <kbrooks> tar
[06:35] <gram_> just microsoft.com is not reachable
[06:35] <slicslak> Blissex, that's fine, wasn't looking to pay anyway.  i'll try the gimp out
[06:35] <gram_> i have no idea why
[06:35] <kbrooks> grogoreo, i would never ever try a rpm
[06:35] <Phrostbyte> What is alien?
[06:36] <monkeyy> rpm wont work on uduntu grogoreo
[06:36] <grogoreo> I meant converting it to a deb
[06:36] <grogoreo> so i can use apt
[06:36] <gram_> but i need to get at microsoft.com for the updates at some windows clients
[06:36] <jadugarr84> Phrostbyte, alien is how you can install rpms on non rpm systems
[06:36] <kbrooks> Phreakazoid, man alien
[06:36] <reka> grogoreo: alien converts it to a deb
[06:36] <reka> grogoreo: you then use dpkg -i to install the deb file
[06:36] <Phreakazoid> kbrooks: eh?
[06:37] <grogoreo> ye
[06:37] <arentie> Exception during runtime initialization
[06:37] <arentie> java.lang.NullPointerException
[06:37] <arentie>    <<No stacktrace available>>
[06:37] <arentie> ******************************************************************
[06:37] <arentie> Something went wrong with LimeWire.
[06:37] <arentie> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[06:37] <arentie> (LimeWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[06:37] <arentie> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[06:37] <monkeyy> hey jcoxon shall i leave free space in the beginning or towards the end ?
[06:37] <arentie> java version "1.4.2"
[06:37] <arentie> gcj-4.0 (GCC) 4.0.1 20050517 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1)
[06:37] <arentie> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[06:37] <reka> arentie: PASTEBIN
[06:37] <grogoreo> but i wanted to know which one would be easier to convert. if one of them has something over the other
[06:37] <arentie> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[06:37] <arentie> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[06:37] <Blissex> slicslak: there is also 'quiteinsane' BTW
[06:37] <gram_> maybe someone could point me to some good NAT/masq- iptables script  ?
[06:37] <arentie> oops sorry
[06:37] <reka> arentie: PASTEBIN!
[06:37] <jcoxon> monkeyy, i would leave it at the end
[06:37] <Blissex> gram_: there are lots of firewall generators, both command line and GUI...
[06:38] <Phrostbyte> Sorry guys, I tried in #gnome - I want to know why I am booting by default into XTerm instead of Gnome?
[06:38] <Blissex> gram_: depends how sophisticated you want one.
[06:38] <Phrostbyte> When I have altered the end of xinitrc?
[06:38] <gram_> hmm, the easier the beter :D
[06:38] <Blissex> Phrostbyte: probably.
[06:38] <kbrooks> gcj?
[06:38] <reka> arentie: Please don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl |
[06:38] <kbrooks> uh........
[06:38] <Blissex> Phrostbyte: oops, depends on how you start X.
[06:38] <monkeyy> ok cool and jcoxon is there any need to leave a small partition in the beginning to install Yaboot or its gonna install itself ?
[06:38] <kbrooks> arentie, breezy?
[06:38] <Blissex> Phrostbyte: depends on whether you start X manually or via a Display Manager lik XDM/KDM/GDM.
[06:38] <jcoxon> monkeyy, not sure - best perhaps to be safe
[06:39] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: what do you mean you are booting into xterm? and are you using gdm?
[06:39] <monkeyy> jcoxon did u leave one or not ?
[06:39] <Blissex> Phrostbyte: please read http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 as to messaging people...
[06:40] <grogoreo> ok one last thing, should I extract the files out of the tar and then make them into a deb or just convert the compressed tar file
[06:40] <copap|ikser> lspci doesn't list my Realtek ALC260HD Audio Soundcard. lsmod shows: there are no sound-modules loaded. What's the command and the directory of the soundcore-module I need?
[06:40] <gram_> i don't need anything special, no forwardning, just NAT/masquerading
[06:40] <jcoxon> monkeyy, can't remember i set the partions up a longtime ago
[06:40] <butterflycollec> hi
[06:41] <jcoxon> monkeyy, from my fdisk i don't think you do
[06:41] <monkeyy> oh ok cool i think i will mess with this then
[06:41] <butterflycollec> can you tell me some ubuntu sources lists for development
[06:41] <flankk> I have no audio.  lspci gives me no audio device.  I have no idea what audio chipset this is other than it's integrated.  I have posted on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47495 Where should I go from here?
[06:41] <GigaClon> hi
[06:41] <monkeyy> is there any way to run gnome and kde both on ubuntu or thats not supported as yet ?
[06:42] <reka> monkeyy: of course it's possible :)
[06:42] <spiral> monkeyy: you can install kubuntu-desktop & ubuntu-desktop at the same time with apt
[06:42] <grogoreo> monkeyy, i think you can, you just choose when you log in
[06:42] <arentie> slicslak, yes I get the command prompt again.  I do have java installed...
[06:42] <monkeyy> reka how ???
[06:42] <gram_> how can it be that all websites work behind my firewall but microsoft.com doesnt ?
[06:42] <butterflycollec> i need basic packages like ncurses-devel for kernel build
[06:42] <butterflycollec> my friend just installed ubuntu, and i'm tring to help him trough ssh
[06:42] <butterflycollec> my first time under ubuntu
[06:42] <reka> monkeyy: what spiral said
[06:42] <gram_> i have no special rules
[06:43] <monkeyy> i am downloading kubuntu right now shall i cancel that then ?
[06:43] <arentie> slicslak, it says on the error that I receive that I have java 1.4.2 installed
[06:43] <reka> monkeyy: then just choose which WM you want by clicking on sessions at the logn screen
[06:43] <monkeyy> whats apt spiral reka ?
[06:43] <spiral> monkeyy: have you allready got an ubuntu installed ?
[06:43] <monkeyy> ahh let me look
[06:43] <reka> monkeyy: dunno
[06:43] <monkeyy> ya
[06:43] <spiral> monkeyy: apt : install package tool
[06:43] <slicslak> arentie, get sun's java and use it instead, gcj won't work
[06:43] <mbirkis> anyone tryed the skype i386 package on a 64bit ubuntu install?
[06:43] <monkeyy> its running on my laptop i
[06:43] <kbrooks> gcj worked
[06:43] <monkeyy> lemme look
[06:44] <reka> spiral: thought he was asking what "apt sprial" was :D
[06:44] <Phrostbyte> Are there any other configuration files besides xinitrc that would effect which desktop environment loads at "startx" ?
[06:44] <reka> *spiral
[06:44] <monkeyy> where is apt ?
[06:44] <monkeyy> cant find it
[06:45] <macomber> Phrostbyte: .dmrc
[06:45] <slicslak> monkeyy, apt-get
[06:45] <monkeyy> sorry
[06:46] <arentie> slicslak, where may i download sun's java...is there a special place for debian?
[06:46] <reka> arentie: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[06:46] <xico> hola
[06:47] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: where is the xinitrc that your are editing? and what does it look like inside
[06:47] <xico> arnia hi
[06:48] <slicslak> arentie, i believe it's in a repository somewhere.  can't help you with this one, do a web search, it's a common question.
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> should be in ~/.xinitrc ?
[06:48] <Arnia> xico: hello
[06:48] <streetbmx> ^thehatsrule^: yes
[06:48] <pratt> Hello all :) , I have installed the ATI drivers for HoaryAMD64 and the control pannel... rebooted and the drivers work great... I need to get to the control pannel to twak my resolution a bit.. I installed the control pannel from synaptic without any problems... anyone know how to summon the ATI control pannel from a commandline? or perhaps the location of the Icon to launch it? TIA.. :)
[06:49] <reka> pratt: ati's control panel sucks iirc
[06:49] <reka> !fixres
[06:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:49] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: whats does your xinitrc look like
[06:50] <reka> pratt: take a look at the link ubotu spat out
[06:50] <sinferno> hey i have a rar with 34 pieces, i have done this in windows but i cant seem to get it to work with the rar program i have already
[06:50] <reka> sinferno: try the non-free one
[06:50] <Phrostbyte> I Got it WORKING!
[06:50] <Phrostbyte> YAAAY!
[06:50] <streetbmx> what was wrong
[06:50] <pratt> reka thankyou , nice person :)
[06:51] <reka> np
[06:51] <sinferno> reka, the non free what
[06:51] <Phrostbyte> FYI: I used the echo command, and needed to inupt the line "gnome-session" into ~/.xinitrc instead of /usr/X11R6/....xinitrc
[06:51] <phanter> hello, what package do I need to be abled to read georgian symbols
[06:51] <Phrostbyte> something about that ~ made the difference
[06:52] <Phrostbyte> Incedentally what IS the difference?
[06:52] <_0kills> hey, if someone has a minute, can they walk me through installing this package, im having problems
[06:52] <reka> sinferno: apt-cache show unrar-nonfree
[06:52] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: ~/.xinitrc is in your home directory
[06:52] <Phrostbyte> Oh, I see
[06:52] <Phrostbyte> And it boots according to user right?
[06:52] <redx> Does anyone know where ubuntu keeps the data for the network to know if it is configured?
[06:53] <Phrostbyte> The lights are all coming on
[06:53] <streetbmx> yes
[06:53] <reka> _0kills: what package?
[06:53] <sinferno> reka, thanks
[06:53] <streetbmx> I figured that, thats why I asked which xinitrc
[06:53] <_0kills> AIM for Linux, aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[06:54] <pratt> !dualhead
[06:54] <ubotu> pratt: Are you smoking crack?
[06:54] <streetbmx> _0kills: why?
[06:54] <pratt> 0o
[06:54] <_0kills> having problems with GAIM
[06:54] <pratt> !smartassedBOT
[06:54] <ubotu> I don't know, pratt
[06:54] <pratt> :)
[06:54] <pratt> !ati
[06:54] <seatmanu> hi
[06:54] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <seatmanu> I have seen a new version of GAIM 1.4 on their site... how come there is only version 1.1.4 on ubuntu?
[06:55] <kbrooks> seatmanu, hoary or warty?
[06:55] <pratt> !atidualhead
[06:55] <ubotu> pratt: Are you smoking crack?
[06:55] <pratt> heh
[06:55] <seatmanu> I installer the 5.04
[06:55] <seatmanu> so I think hoary right?
[06:55] <kbrooks> both of them have been walled off to programs
[06:56] <kbrooks> and both of them accept only security updates
[06:56] <seatmanu> oh ok.
[06:56] <seatmanu> so I suppose thisis the same for firefox right?
[06:56] <seatmanu> my version is 1.02
[06:56] <arentie> slicslak, how do I install sun's java?
[06:56] <monkeyy> from where do i download the kde package?
[06:57] <seatmanu> for Sun java , just download it from Sun site
[06:57] <seatmanu> untar in /opt
[06:57] <reka> arentie: i already gave you instructions
[06:57] <slicslak> mmmm, let me try this....
[06:57] <slicslak> !java
[06:57] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:57] <reka> monkeyy: kubuntu-desktop
[06:57] <slicslak> !sun
[06:57] <ubotu> slicslak: I give up, what is it?
[06:57] <seatmanu> and create environment variable JAVA_HOME that point ot it
[06:57] <slicslak> !sun-java
[06:57] <flankk> slicslak, /msg ubotu > spamming #ubuntu
[06:57] <ubotu> I don't know, slicslak
[06:58] <monkeyy> reka i have to download it from the kubuntu website or is it in the hoary CD ?
[06:58] <arentie> reka, yes I was given the instructions and I do have gcj java installed, but I the error I received running LimeWire stated that I should use Sun's Java
[06:58] <reka> monkeyy: you can install stuff from ubuntu's repositories
[06:58] <seatmanu> monkeyy: just point to universe (which will get debian package)
[06:59] <slicslak> arentie, did you see the java link ubotu gave?  try reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:59] <monkeyy> i am sorry but i am not following you reka and seatmanu
[06:59] <reka> arentie: i supplied instructions for sun's install :)
[06:59] <mbirkis> is it possible to change the language in a installed ubuntu (gnome)?
[06:59] <monkeyy> is it alright if i can message you ?
[06:59] <arentie> reka, sorry...i guess i was confused
[06:59] <reka> monkeyy: if you want KDE, install kubuntu-desktop via synaptic or using apt-get from the CL
[07:00] <xxlbug> hi @ all
[07:00] <seatmanu> arentie: oit is very simple:  just download it from Sun site, untar in /opt and add in a term export JAVA_HOME=/opt/java_path
[07:00] <sinferno> reka, would i do unrar r /file/directory in order to make it recurse?
[07:00] <medgno> mbirkis, on the GDM screen you can select the language for the session, and I think it can remember it
[07:00] <pratt> reka will installing KDE break Gnome?
[07:00] <reka> sinferno: iirc, it will automatically do that
[07:00] <mbirkis> medgno: thank you
[07:00] <seatmanu> monkeyy: open your /etc/apt/source.list and add a new repository to point to universe
[07:01] <reka> pratt: no, it installs it seperately.  running KDE apps in gnome however...
[07:01] <stanford> does anyone know of a good resource for a newb to learn how to install packages?
[07:01] <pratt> ok thanks :)
[07:01] <monkeyy> ok one very important think
[07:01] <xxlbug> i have a problem, i have installed the nvidia glx components and the system boots with the nvidia logo, but i cant adjust the refresh rate of the monitor
[07:01] <remyforbes777>    should you uncomment the security sources in the sources.list file
[07:01] <monkeyy> when i installed ubuntu did it enable a root user or i have to enable that later on ?
[07:02] <redx> Does anyone know what I have to do to avoid having to go to system>admin>network>eth0 and enter the IP addresses each time to get internet connections to work?
[07:02] <pratt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto  <[07:02] <pratt> might help
[07:02] <xxlbug> ah thx ^
[07:02] <reka> monkeyy: root account is disabled by default
[07:02] <mbirkis> stanford: ubuntuguide.org
[07:02] <stanford> mbirkis- thanks
[07:02] <reka> monkeyy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[07:02] <seatmanu> you have a root user enabled... go to system tools ->Root console
[07:02] <redx> I've already checked /etc/network/interfaces...
[07:03] <seatmanu> reka: it was not disabled for me
[07:03] <redx> It looks the same before and after I enter the IP addresses manually...
[07:03] <seatmanu> reka I could open it from system tools->root console
[07:03] <seatmanu> and not password asked
[07:03] <redx> So why doesn't it check that file for the information at startup?
[07:03] <mbirkis> stanford: ubuntuguid.org/#synaptic to be presise
[07:04] <monkeyy> ok be right back ive a lot to learn
[07:04] <catfox> anyone here using the beagle packages? i can't get searching to work :(
[07:04] <seatmanu> monkeyy :  their site is pretty good on ubunutu , a lot of wikkis
[07:04] <reka> seatmanu: according to the wiki, root login account is disabled
[07:04] <mbirkis> catfox: what is beagle?
[07:04] <catfox> mbirkis, desktop search, like google desktop
[07:04] <mbirkis> catfox: ok
[07:05] <Coyctecm> beagle is pretty unstable in my opinion...
[07:05] <seatmanu> reka: I guess this is wrong cause I did not have root access but one I looged in with my user I could open a root terminal and then change the pass for root
[07:05] <redx> does anyone know if there are more network files other than in /etc/network?
[07:05] <seatmanu> redx : no
[07:05] <seatmanu> redx: what is your problem exactly?
[07:06] <Gourami> who can help me with vlc, I have installed it and popped in a DVD, but it doesnt want to play
[07:06] <redx> I have to type in three ip addresses everytime I want to connect to the internet.
[07:06] <redx> I want it to stop that...
[07:06] <redx> And just have it work on startup
[07:06] <kbrooks> redx, Use DHCP
[07:06] <seatmanu> redx: how many net interface do you have?
[07:06] <xxlbug> how can i shutdown the x server?
[07:06] <medgno> Gourami, have you installed libdvdcss?
[07:06] <redx> ?I can only have one can't I?
[07:07] <Gourami> lemme check
[07:07] <kbrooks> redx, you can have MANY
[07:07] <medgno> Gourami, you'll need to get it from somewhere like marillat, IIRC
[07:07] <redx> kbrooks: DHCP doesn't let me connect to the internet either.
[07:07] <seatmanu> redx: you can have more than one interfaces
[07:07] <redx> Ok... how do I know how many I have?
[07:07] <xxlbug> can anybody tell me plz, how to shutdown the xserver?
[07:08] <seatmanu> redx: how many network card do you have (including wifi)
[07:08] <redx> One... ethernet.
[07:08] <[h] > I'm trying to configure the internet, I'm using a DSL modem on PPPoE which requires a username/password to login - Can someone help me with this?
[07:08] <medgno> xxlbug, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will kill it off, but it'll pop right back up. to stop it, go into a console and type  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     (if you're using gdm)
[07:08] <seatmanu> what do you see when you do ifconfig?
[07:08] <xxlbug> ah thx
[07:08] <xxlbug> ^^
[07:09] <kbrooks> So...........
[07:09] <monkeyy> ok here is what i did  i went to system tools and then went to root terminal with root teminal open i typed in apt-get install kubuntu-dektop  .... then i got couldnt find package kubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <Phrostbyte> OK - now that gnome is the default, how do I  make it boot directly into gnome, instead of the terminal?
[07:10] <seatmanu> monkeyy: do you have the correct mirror set in your /etc/apt/source.list?
[07:10] <monkeyy> seatmanu i have no idea how i can tell
[07:11] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: without gdm?
[07:11] <blackout> anyone know what packages contain the libpthread development libraries?
[07:11] <monkeyy> shall i open up sources.list ?
[07:11] <seatmanu> monkeyy: yes
[07:11] <mjr> libc6-dev
[07:11] <monkeyy> ok hold on
[07:12] <seatmanu> monkeyy: this is the most important file as it allows you to add more repositories (therefore more packages)
[07:12] <Phrostbyte> With GDM?
[07:12] <monkeyy> ok sources.list is open with gedit
[07:12] <monkeyy> how do i add a repositry
[07:12] <Gourami> please hold while             the system crashes.... *sigh*
[07:12] <AlP> moin
[07:12] <Phrostbyte> I can run GDM manually, but how do I get it to run on its own at boot?
[07:13] <Phrostbyte> I can run GDM manually, but how do I get it to run on its own at boot?
[07:13] <Gourami> medgno, please explain, I see its not in synaptic
[07:14] <monkeyy> oh i see
[07:14] <seatmanu> monkeyy
[07:14] <monkeyy> yes
[07:14] <seatmanu> just copy one of the line
[07:14] <Gourami> how do I get libdvdcss ?
[07:14] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: I think that ubuntu  does that though /etc/inittab
[07:14] <monkeyy> done
[07:14] <seatmanu> and replace with universe
[07:14] <monkeyy> ok
[07:15] <kbrooks> wtf?
[07:15] <seatmanu> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[07:15] <seatmanu> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[07:15] <medgno> Gourami, just a sec, I'll get you a link to the package
[07:15] <Gourami> :)
[07:15] <crouton> howdy again
[07:15] <Fulg> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:15] <Fulg> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:15] <Fulg> any ideea ?
[07:15] <reka> ready-to-use sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:15] <medgno> Gourami, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-0.0_i386.deb
[07:16] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: er or used to maybe, looks different. I havent used ubuntu for a while and forgot
[07:16] <streetbmx> Phrostbyte: did you botch up the default ubuntu install or something?
[07:16] <Herbie2> Does anybody know if there is a German version of ubuntu anywhere ?
[07:16] <newbie> hello. i tried installing Ubuntu into my laptop which has winxp pro, but i've run into problems. i followed the instructions in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:16] <medgno> download it, then, in a terminal, do sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.8-0.0_i386.deb
[07:16] <reka> Herbie2: there is.  for proof: #ubuntu-de
[07:16] <Gourami> sjoe, medgno can you help me with that, I really only know through synaptic ?
[07:17] <reka> newbie: what problems?
[07:17] <seatmanu> monkeyy: once you save, don t forget in synaptic to reload your repository first :)
[07:17] <xxlbug> hi thx for the tip with the fix refresh rate site
[07:17] <xxlbug> i have another problem too
[07:17] <Herbie2> Thanks, I will try ........... !
[07:18] <newbie> everything installed fine, then when it rebooted to complete ubuntu installation i just had a blank screen that read: missing operating system
[07:18] <xxlbug> i have a mainboard with nforce2 chip
[07:18] <Gourami> sjoe, medgno can you help me with that, I really only know through synaptic ?
[07:18] <Fulg> hey
[07:18] <Fulg> can anybody help me
[07:18] <Fulg> !?
[07:18] <ubotu> Fulg: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:18] <Fulg> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:18] <Fulg> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:18] <stanford> How do I add a downloaded package to synaptic???
[07:19] <Fulg> i`ve tryied apt-get update --fix-missing
[07:19] <medgno> Gourami, if you just download that one file to, say, your desktop, then you can install it from there
[07:19] <Fulg> but it isnt working
[07:19] <seatmanu> Fulg : did your run apt-get update first?
[07:19] <Namron> how do i configure the monitor frequency?
[07:19] <Fulg> yes
[07:19] <xxlbug> i downloaded the driver from the website and when i started it it says, that i must install the kernel libs for compiling, but i have installed all needed packages
[07:19] <seatmanu> fuldg: then the package is maybe corrupted on the repository
[07:19] <medgno> Fulg, if you replace the us.archive.ubuntu.com with archive.ubuntu.com  and then reload, it should work
[07:19] <Gourami> install how please
[07:19] <Fulg> oh
[07:19] <Fulg> ok
[07:19] <stanford> How do I add a downloaded package to synaptic???
[07:19] <medgno> open up a terminal
[07:20] <reka> newbie: sounds like you messed up your partitioning
[07:20] <xxlbug> can anybody help me plz
[07:20] <phanter> hello I would like to get support for the georgian symbols. The russian symbols worked out of the box. How can I install the georgian ones?
[07:20] <medgno> and then cd to the directory you downloaded it to
[07:20] <Namron> I have syncmaster 763mb
[07:20] <newbie> i thought it had to do with the partitioning
[07:20] <medgno> then type in "sudo dpkg -i packagename" (without quotes, and replacing packagename with the name of the package)
[07:21] <newbie> i was still able to undo everything, so it's not a disaster problem
[07:21] <Namron> hello anyone plz?
[07:21] <newbie> but i'm trying to figure out how to do it right... i really want to install linux
[07:22] <seatmanu> monkeyy: is it working for you now?
[07:22] <monkeyy> seatmanu nope
[07:22] <reka> newbie: so you know what went wrong?
[07:22] <Tsukasa> Namron, System -> Settings -> Screen
[07:22] <monkeyy> seatmanu can i just message u for a while
[07:22] <newbie> i know it was the partitioning but i don't know how to correct it
[07:22] <newbie> i still haven't successfully installed ubuntu
[07:23] <seatmanu> sure
[07:23] <Tsukasa> Namron, if the desired frequency is not listed but you're sure that your monitor supports it try disabling dga
[07:23] <Namron> how do i configure monitor frequency?
[07:23] <Fulg> ok;works
[07:23] <Fulg> 10x guys
[07:23] <Namron> how do i disable dga?
[07:23] <newbie> i had 4 partitions: 1 NTFS for winxp, 1 linux ext2 for ubuntu, 1 for the swap and another fat32 for data....
[07:24] <reka> newbie: sounds OK
[07:24] <Tsukasa> Namron, by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:24] <Gourami> medgno, database area is locked by another process
[07:24] <xxlbug> know anybody about a problem with nforce soundchip and a audigy 2zs ?
[07:24] <xxlbug> i have no sound on the audigy
[07:24] <Namron> i m new . can u tell me what to do?
[07:24] <medgno> Gourami, exit out of synaptic. then you should be able to do the dpkg thing
[07:25] <newbie> ok... made the linux partition bootable, mounted it as "/"...
[07:25] <sinferno> ok, i extracted all thse .r# files and theres an md5 should i run that or something?
[07:25] <Gourami> ok its run and done its thing so now dvd should work
[07:26] <newbie> would my problem have to do with the "1024 cylinder" bios problem
[07:26] <reka> newbie: i'd reinstall, deleting the ext2 and swap paritions, then auto partition the free space.  leave everything it sets as default from there (i.e. which to make bootable)  and say yes when it asks to install grub to the MBR.
[07:26] <hor> What can i do if i don't remember my username?!
[07:26] <Gourami> medgno, thank you very much :) now I can watch a bugs life :)
[07:27] <sinferno> how do i use a md5 file anyone?
[07:27] <medgno> Gourami, glad to've helped
[07:27] <[harris] > I'm trying to configure my ethernet connection, I'm using a DSL modem on PPPoE which requires a username/password to login - Can someone help me with this? (I'm really new)
[07:28] <hor> [harris] : try 'sudo pppoeconf'
[07:28] <newbie> so reka, what you're saying is have 3 partitions: 1 for xp, 1 empty, and 1 for data?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> sinferno,  it should just be a file that has the md5sum in it.. a large #. that you copmpare to the output from 'md5sum whateverfile'
[07:28] <[harris] > thanks hor
[07:28] <medgno> sinferno, I think it's by typing, in a terminal, md5sum -c file.md5  (where file.md5 is the filename)  I'm not sure, I'm just going off of the manpage for md5sum
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> heh - thats easier then me just looking at the file and the # the md5sum prints.. lol..
[07:29] <sinferno> yeah im reading that now, what i have is a bunch of rars like .r01 .r02 then one regular .rar and an md5 file
[07:29] <reka> newbie: you said you now have: [1] NTFS winxp [2]  linux ext2 [3]  swap [4]  fat32
[07:29] <sinferno> but the regular rar wont open
[07:29] <reka> newbie: delete [2]  and [3] 
[07:29] <HappyFool> you probably need unrar-nonfree
[07:29] <reka> newbie: that will create some free space
[07:29] <sinferno> i got that how do i use it
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Hmm odd that a bunch of rars come with a md5sum. :P
[07:29] <phanter> nobody who can help me installing the Georgian script/symbols in ubuntu?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> unrar x foo.rar (i think)
[07:29] <reka> newbie: then highlight the free space and select auto-partition
[07:30] <reka> newbie: then leave every other setting as default
[07:30] <reka> i.e don't change which partition is bootable and whatnot
[07:30] <stanford> Please Help: How do I add a downloaded package to the Synaptic package  Manager list ???
[07:30] <medgno> stanford, you can't, as far as I know. you can install them from the command line, though
[07:30] <stanford> medgno how do i do that?
[07:31] <medgno> you install file.deb by typing in   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:31] <QaDeS> is there a quick possibility to remove all packages that are not contained in the default sources of apt?
[07:31] <sinferno> HappyFool, thanks that worked
[07:31] <stanford> does it matter what what directory file.deb is in, medgno?
[07:31] <Tsukasa> QaDeS, simply comment out the lines from sources.list and do a apt-get update
[07:32] <medgno> you need to be in the same folder as the .deb you're installing, or need to give it the path to it (as in dpkg -i /home/user/file.deb)
[07:32] <QaDeS> Tsukasa, i mean remove them from the installation
[07:32] <flankk> the wine package from hoary repos is botched. you can't even run regedit.
[07:33] <QaDeS> performed a dist-upgrade from sarge and seem to have some kinda mixed system mow :o/
[07:33] <Tsukasa> ah
[07:33] <medgno> QaDeS, apt-show-versions (you'll need to install it) can at least tell you what packages are from what distro (as in hoary, sarge, testing)
[07:33] <QaDeS> oh cool :)
[07:34] <newbie> ok. well i undid everything i did... so right now i only have the one huge partition for my c: drive....
[07:34] <newbie> so i have to start over again, setting up the partitions
[07:34] <newbie> i think i know what you mean tho reka... i'll try it again
[07:34] <reka> newbie: install windows first then
[07:34] <stanford> medgno, my file is not a *.deb, it is muine-0.8.3.tar.gz
[07:35] <medgno> oi. you'll probably need to compile it, but I'm not sure. I've never used mono.
[07:35] <reka> newbie: leave some free space, then just use that to install ubuntu to when you run the ubuntu install
[07:35] <newbie> ok. i'll try it again, thanks reka
[07:35] <reka> sure, good luck
[07:35] <HappyFool> muine 8.2 seems to be in the hoary repositories
[07:35] <HappyFool> 0.8.2, that is
[07:36] <stanford> what does that mean?
[07:36] <HappyFool> that means if you're happy with version 0.8.2, you probably don't need to compile anything
[07:37] <seatmanu> standford: this mean you have to untar the file and use a compiler to generate the binary :)
[07:37] <stanford> so its already on my computer?
[07:37] <Scroopy> hey peeps
[07:37] <Scroopy> im just wondering how i would turn of flinux firewall
[07:37] <adwait> flinux firewall?
[07:37] <HappyFool> stanford: no, you still need to install it, but it's very easy
[07:37] <Scroopy> linux firewall
[07:37] <adwait> Scroopy: ubuntu doesnt come preinstalled with any firewall
[07:37] <stanford> happyfool, ok, so *.3 is harder to install?
[07:38] <adwait> Scroopy: the nearest thing is, editing raw iptables........
[07:38] <Scroopy> Adwait: then y wouldnt a friend have access to my PHP server etc?
[07:38] <Strife> you mean HTTP server?
[07:38] <seatmanu> stanford: iot requires you to baiscally make the package instead of downloading it
[07:38] <Scroopy> Adwait: i have opeened port 80 and the server is on port 80 and functioning as localhost
[07:38] <seatmanu> so yes it is harder if you don t have the correct dependencies
[07:38] <adwait> Scroopy: yes, but they would have to login to change anything.......but yeah, they can visit ur pages
[07:38] <Scroopy> yeha HTTP server
[07:38] <sinferno> whats a good cd burner?
[07:38] <stanford> seatmanu iot?
[07:38] <[harris] > thanks again hor ;o
[07:38] <HappyFool> stanford: you will probably find it easier to install the hoary provided package
[07:39] <Strife> Scroopy: is he trying to connect via the IP versus some name address?
[07:39] <adwait> Scroopy: well...then it is visible to the whole net, un less u hv a router
[07:39] <shawnh> hey people
[07:39] <_0kills> sinferno, k3b
[07:39] <flankk> Scroopy, check your apache config, and make sure your isp doesn't block incoming port 80.
[07:39] <Scroopy> trying via IP
[07:39] <shawnh> tgood morinng
[07:39] <sinferno> _0kills, thanks
[07:39] <_0kills> sinferno, np
[07:39] <Scroopy> the config is on port 80
[07:39] <Namron> Tsukasa i have made th change but its not working
[07:39] <adwait> Scroopy: maybe theres a router betwewn u and the net
[07:39] <Strife> yeah, many ISPs block incoming port 80
[07:39] <Scroopy> and the ISP doesnt block it
[07:39] <Tsukasa> hm
[07:39] <Phrostbyte> xterm won't allow me to login as root
[07:39] <Scroopy> there is and it has port 80 opened ont he shot PC's IP
[07:39] <Phrostbyte> grrr
[07:40] <Namron> my desktop is gnome 2.10
[07:40] <adwait> Scoopy: how r u conecting to the net
[07:40] <shawnh> somewhere over  the rainbow blue birds fly
[07:40] <Strife> Scroopy: how many computers do you have on the local network?
[07:40] <adwait> Scoopy: X is configured tht way to not allow u to login as root
[07:40] <Scroopy> via ADSL throuigh ethernet, which hits a router modem
[07:40] <Scroopy> i have 3
[07:40] <flankk> Scroopy, how can you be sure your isp doesn't block it? clearly you are having troubles just setting it up.  we are saying INCOMING 80, not outgoing. don't be so sure.
[07:40] <Strife> router, there's your problem
[07:40] <adwait> Scroopy: right.......well, the public IP tht u have probably belongs to the router
[07:40] <adwait> Scroopy: ull hv to setup port forwarding on the router
[07:41] <Scroopy> yeh it does, each PC gives me the same external IP
[07:41] <Scroopy> i ahve set it up
[07:41] <Scroopy> port 80 is open
[07:41] <stanford> happyfool, I do not understand how I am supposed to install software in ubuntu... what is the hoary provided package?
[07:41] <Strife> and it forwards to the correct computer, Scroopy?
[07:41] <Scroopy> yes it does
[07:41] <flankk> Scroopy, if you have ip masquerade, you also need to port forward or you won't recieve the packets.
[07:41] <Namron> help setting monitor frequency in gnome?
[07:41] <adwait> Scroopy: yes it is, but the port 80 of the router maybe taken up by the web admin pages or something
[07:42] <HappyFool> stanford: give me a moment...
[07:42] <adwait> Scroopy: setup virtual server, and also set the incoming filters on ur router
[07:42] <stanford> happyfool sure
[07:42] <Scroopy> how would i chek that port 80 is A-OK
[07:42] <adwait> Scroopy: whn u try visiting ur ip, wht do u get?
[07:42] <Namron> anyone plz?
[07:42] <Scroopy> ok
[07:42] <HappyFool> stanford: sorry. busy making supper ;)
[07:42] <Scroopy> when i try my EXTERNAL ip via one of my oter PC's i get my modem config
[07:42] <Scroopy> would this explain it?
[07:42] <adwait> Namron: yeah...wht abt the frequency?
[07:43] <HappyFool> stanford: ubuntu provides a system for installing software
[07:43] <stanford> happyfool symantic?
[07:43] <Strife> Scroopy: that means you haven't set up port forwarding correctly
[07:43] <Strife> or
[07:43] <adwait> Scroopy: like i said, the port 80 is mostly used by the router config, run apache on 81
[07:43] <Strife> worse
[07:43] <HappyFool> stanford: you can access this through 'synaptic' : System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[07:43] <Scroopy> ok
[07:43] <Strife> it means that your router is on port 80
[07:43] <Scroopy> will set it up
[07:43] <Namron> see i have syncmaster 763 but get only 60hz
[07:43] <Strife> so yes, adwait's suggestion is the best
[07:43] <flankk> Scroopy, you need to configure port forwarding via. your router.  still won't guarantee if you isp blocks incoming 80.  visit the private address and see if you even configured the server correctly.
[07:43] <Namron> how to get 85hz which is supported ?
[07:44] <HappyFool> stanford: you will need to setup synaptic to download software from the internet
[07:44] <flankk> Scroopy, on the box with apache, visit localhost:80
[07:44] <stanford> happyfool ok...
[07:44] <HappyFool> stanford: do you have synaptic running?
[07:44] <stanford> happyfool . yes
[07:44] <adwait> Namron, i am not sure dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg could do it, or u could hand edit the xorg.conf file
[07:44] <HappyFool> stanford: ok. click on 'settings' and then 'repositories'
[07:44] <Namron> have edited xorg.conf but still not getting it
[07:45] <stanford> happyfool: ok
[07:45] <HappyFool> stanford: you should see a window listing 'CD Ubuntu 5.04'
[07:45] <Scroopy> flannk it gives me the apache server and my website
[07:45] <stanford> happyfool: yeah
[07:45] <flankk> Scroopy, then configure your router to port forward incoming port 80 to that private ip address.
[07:45] <HappyFool> stanford: is there anything else in that list?
[07:45] <stanford> happyfool: no
[07:45] <HappyFool> stanford: ok, click on 'Add'
[07:45] <Phrostbyte> OK - I booted into an xterm login prompt, but it won't let me login as ROOT! If I log in as a user, it won't llet me su or sudo or su root or anything!
[07:46] <HappyFool> stanford: a new window should appear.
[07:46] <adwait> Scroopy: ur server is configured fine, just set it to run on 81, and setup port forwarding for ur router on port 81
[07:46] <stanford> happyfool: ok
[07:46] <HappyFool> stanford: make sure the top 'list-button' is showing 'Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"'
[07:46] <Namron> adwait plz?
[07:46] <HappyFool> stanford: and tick all four boxes below
[07:46] <brady> is there a way to examine the contents of a package w/o installing it?
[07:47] <brady> (specifically, i want to find out which zope package provides zodb)
[07:47] <adwait> Namron: ok.........sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <stanford> happyfool: I think i understand now
[07:47] <seatmanu> can download it and use dpkg
[07:47] <brady> is there a way to examine the contents of a package w/o installing it?
[07:47] <brady> (specifically, i want to find out which zope package provides zodb)
[07:47] <prak> can anyone help be figure out why my battstat applet never shows the batt status.. i am using a cpq presario 1720US
[07:48] <brady> sorry if i wrote that twice
[07:48] <stanford> happyfool: so ubuntu has an official list of software.
[07:48] <HappyFool> stanford: cool. you may want to add the 'security updates' and 'updates' repositories too
[07:48] <HappyFool> stanford: yeah, exactly
[07:48] <brady> i didnt identify first
[07:48] <chealer> hi. a friend told me that he got a IPW2200 card automagically working installing ubuntu. he isn't aware of any firmware upgrade happening. ipw2200.sf.net tells that IPW2200 needs an updated non-free firmware. just wondering, is it possible that ubuntu installs such a firmware quietly?
[07:48] <stanford> happyfool: ok sounds good.  thanks!
[07:48] <Scroopy> i am back
[07:48] <Tsukasa> is there a way to change the screen an application is on while it's running?
[07:48] <Scroopy> just gettin aqmate to test now
[07:48] <adwait> Namron: uuh no......its not thr..no idea how to do this
[07:49] <Tsukasa> i.e. to put it from 0.0 to 0.1
[07:49] <HappyFool> stanford: when you click ok, and get back to synaptic, it should reload the package list
[07:49] <HappyFool> stanford: and you should be able to find muine in the list
[07:49] <stanford> happyfool ok
[07:49] <QaDeS> ummm how can i downgrade packages?
[07:49] <stanford> happyfool found it!
[07:49] <prak> acpi battstat help... anyone got it working or knows how to make it work?
[07:49] <Namron> anyway thanks adwait
[07:49] <HappyFool> stanford: great
[07:49] <HappyFool> stanford: right click on it and choose 'Mark for installation'
[07:50] <adwait> Namron: in absence of any other solutions, i would says installing the right monitor drivers could do it
[07:50] <stanford> happyfool i got it from here
[07:50] <HappyFool> stanford: cool
[07:50] <stanford> happyfool its installing
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i use this file? :  sc3u-demo-x86.run.gz
[07:50] <Tsukasa> ChurcH_of_FoamY, unpack it and ./run it
[07:50] <sinferno> hmm this bin file is too big for a cd is there like a daemon tools for linux kind of thing?
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k thank you
[07:50] <Tsukasa> sinferno, if it's an iso you can directly mount it
[07:50] <rwabel> hi
[07:51] <linlin> how do i install gcc and make and all the nessecary build tools like that?
[07:51] <sinferno> Tsukasa, how?
[07:51] <HappyFool> linlin: install 'build-essential'
[07:51] <sinferno> Tsukasa, just like i would ount anything?
[07:51] <Tsukasa> I think so
[07:51] <HappyFool> linlin: use synaptic, or 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[07:51] <linlin> apt-get install build-essential?
[07:51] <HappyFool> yip
[07:51] <Tsukasa> otherwise it should be pretty easy to find out
[07:51] <rwabel> I've a big problem. somehow my home partition is now a swap partition. Any chances to get to my home data?
[07:51] <Tsukasa> unfortunately formats like nrg, mds etc. are not mountable, you've to convert them first ~.~
[07:52] <rwabel> is it possible to convert the partition without loosing data?
[07:53] <serbi> goranac
[07:53] <serbi> nema nikoj
[07:53] <linlin> i think us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[07:54] <HappyFool> linlin: yeah. use archive.ubuntu.com instead
[07:54] <linlin> okie dokie
[07:54] <HappyFool> rwabel: i think you may be out of luck
[07:54] <QaDeS> i think i shot my setup :o(
[07:54] <serbi> a torbes
[07:54] <rwabel> :-(
[07:54] <Tsukasa> rwabel, it IS possible, but I don't know exactly how
[07:54] <serbi> cfao goranci
[07:55] <QaDeS> postgresql should be in the ubuntu archive, no?
[07:55] <wolf> i try to install a wintv nova -s tv card on hoary, any good howtos avaible?
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> Checking if all requirements are met... ok.
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> mkdir -p ./symbols
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> for i in ./ath_hal ath_rate/onoe ./net80211 ./ath; do \
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson>         (cd $i; make) || exit 1; \
[07:55] <HappyFool> QaDeS: should be and is
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> done
[07:55] <Tsukasa> if I'm not totally wrong it had something to do with a tool called fips, but don't take this too serious
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal'
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> cp ./../hal/linux/ah_osdep.c ah_osdep.c
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> uudecode ./../hal/public/powerpc-be-eabi.hal.o.uu
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> cp ./../hal/public/powerpc-be-eabi.opt_ah.h opt_ah.h
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make -C /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 SUBDIRS=/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal MODVERDIR=/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal/../symbols modules
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10'
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson>   CC [M]   /usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o
[07:55] <QaDeS> oook, so why does apt-get tell me it aint?
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> /bin/sh: /usr/bingcc: No such file or directory
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[3] : *** [/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o]  Error 1
[07:55] <HappyFool> HaroldJohnson: don't paste here, please
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[2] : *** [_module_/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal]  Error 2
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10'
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[1] : *** [all]  Error 2
[07:55] <HaroldJohnson> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/madwifi/ath_hal'
[07:56] <davro> no ooo
[07:56] <HaroldJohnson> make: *** [all]  Error 1
[07:56] <HaroldJohnson> Oops, sorry
[07:56] <HaroldJohnson> HappyFool, Sorry, I didn't intend to do that.
[07:56] <flankk> HaroldJohnson, /join #flood
[07:56] <QaDeS> "reinstallation of postgresql not possible, it cannot be downloaded" o.O
[07:56] <erikp> Hi!  I just upgraded to hoary, and when I get to the log-in screen, I hear this drumroll... a continuous tapping sound.  If I try to log in normally, nothing happens.. just a brown screen and a cursor; no error message.  If I log in using failsafe terminal, I see that there are several aplay and gdmplay processes.  If I kill the aplay processes the tapping stops.  If I log out again, the tapping starts right back up.  Any suggestions?
[07:58] <HappyFool> erikp: this is a guess: in failsafe terminal, run 'sudo gdmsetup', go to the 'Accessibility tab' and turn sound off
[07:59] <erikp> you mean "Make a sound when login window is ready"?
[07:59] <HappyFool> yeah
[07:59] <HappyFool> as i said, that's a bit of a guess
[07:59] <erikp> HappyFool: OK, thanks! I'll try logging in normally...
[08:01] <[harris] > I'm trying to setup firestarter, but it says "THe device eth0 is not ready."; however, I have it configured and I am connected to the internet -- Am I doing something wrong?
[08:02] <ryu> hi, arent there any sha1sums for the kubuntu images
[08:02] <sinferno> hmm is there a reason applications:/// doesnt work for me
[08:02] <sinferno> i want to edit my menu
[08:04] <jadugarr84> sinferno, you can't edit menus like that in gnome 2.10 right now
[08:04] <xxlbug> hi know anybody here, how to install klibido in kunbuntu/unbuntu?
[08:04] <sinferno> jadugarr84, how do i edit menus right now then
[08:05] <HappyFool> ryu: there are MD5sums here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/  -- i don't know about sha1
[08:05] <jadugarr84> sinferno, you can install smeg, it will let your menus
[08:05] <erikp> HappyFool: that solved the tapping thing (thanks!) but I still can't log in normally.  I just get a blank screen.
[08:05] <alex__> Hello! Can anybody advice me a monitor for CPU's temperature, HD's one and fans' speed?
[08:05] <HappyFool> erikp: hrm. sorry, i'm not sure
[08:06] <erikp> that's OK, thanks for your help.
[08:06] <ryu> kay thx
[08:06] <linlin> how do i see all the pckages currently installed on my system?
[08:06] <sinferno> jadugarr84, hmmm link? its not in apt
[08:07] <Aerebus> Can someone tell me if there is some easy way to install software that is not included in the ubuntu distro? example, VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz? I used the archive manager to place it into /home/nexus/downloads/vmware-distrib and now i have 6 folders (bin,doc,etc,man,lib,installer) and 2 files (FILES,vmware-install.pl), i checked inside of the installer folder and there is a file called services.sh lol i really dont know wha
[08:07] <Aerebus> t i'm doing, anyone wanna educate me? :) o, i alsi checked wiki.ubuntu.com for this topic and only found info on updating an existing installation...
[08:07] <DodGeR_X> use the package manager linlin ? synaptic
[08:07] <DodGeR_X> should show u whats installed (the little green ones)
[08:07] <jadugarr84> sinferno, its in some of extras repos ... I'm not sure which one though
[08:07] <HappyFool> linlin: yeah, you can use synaptic. a slightly more primitive way might be 'dpkg -l|grep ^ii'
[08:08] <sinferno> jadugarr84, is there a way to edit my menus without it?
[08:08] <sinferno> jadugarr84, like a file or a folder
[08:08] <linlin> ok thanks
[08:08] <linlin> im apt-getting synaptic right now so ill jsut use that i guess
[08:09] <jadugarr84> sinferno, you can edit them in a text file i think, but i don't know how to do that
[08:09] <sinferno> cause im reading a forum on ubuntu forums about some guys that lost thier app menu using smeg
[08:09] <sinferno> and they had to go to ./config/menus and set back to default
[08:10] <jadugarr84> sinferno, i use smeg and have had a problem
[08:10] <shakel> hlo
[08:10] <shakel> hello
[08:11] <jadugarr84> *haven't
[08:11] <Gourami> my dvd playback with VLC is very jumpy, is there something I can check ?
[08:11] <peaceyall> hi
[08:11] <shakel> hello peaceyall
[08:11] <peaceyall> hey
[08:11] <shakel> I have installed this OS
[08:12] <shakel> seems to be running very we
[08:12] <linlin> omg...
[08:12] <jadugarr84> sinferno, it creates problems when you have the gnome menu-editor and smeg both installed
[08:12] <linlin> im going to kill myself
[08:12] <alex__> Hello! Can anybody advice me a monitor for CPU's temperature, HD's one and fans' speed?
[08:12] <shakel> linlin why you going to kill your self?
[08:12] <linlin> i just tripped over the ethernet cable on my machine and ripped the jack out of the mobo
[08:12] <xxlbug> hi @ all
[08:12] <linlin> gaahhhh'
[08:12] <HappyFool> Gourami: check that dma is enabled on the dvd drive
[08:12] <Gourami> oh gawd poor linlin
[08:12] <shakel> alex, check www.newegg.com you can buy anything you ned there
[08:12] <HappyFool> linlin: doh!
[08:12] <Belutz_newbie_on> linlin: wew
[08:12] <Gourami> HappyFool, where do I check that ?
[08:13] <shakel> linlin: WOW
[08:13] <linlin> and the box is stil running!
[08:13] <HappyFool> Gourami: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc'   (/dev/hdc is a guess) will tell you
[08:13] <Belutz> HappyFool: i'm back on my winxp
[08:13] <linlin> lmao
[08:13] <alex__> shakel: well, i didn't think buying anything...
[08:13] <djp> sinferno: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-174.html
[08:13] <HappyFool> Belutz: ah-ha. still preparing to install?
[08:13] <shakel> alex: what are you asking about then?
[08:13] <peaceyall> im gettign an error while trying to load ubuntu , after the kernel se;lection screen i get "Error 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable file" , i remember the last thing i did was , sudo apt-get upgrade. how can i fix this problem?
[08:13] <linlin> ubuntu still runs if a device is physically torn out of a machine ;)
[08:13] <Aerebus> Shakel, i think he needs a program to monitor those hardware devices
[08:14] <Aerebus> like a cpu temp display on your desktop etc
[08:14] <Belutz> HappyFool: hmmm maybe after i finish my final project for my bachelor degree
[08:14] <HappyFool> Belutz: fair enough ;)
[08:14] <Aerebus> i dont think he was talking about buying those components
[08:14] <sinferno> anyone know where the menu config file is?
[08:14] <Gourami> HappyFool, its off
[08:14] <alex__> shakel: NO! well.... :-) I'm not asking for a REAL MONITOR, but a PROGRAM that controls about temperatures, fans's sped, etc.
[08:14] <Belutz> HappyFool: i don't know why... when i'm back on winxp, i feel at home although i'm quite boring with windows
[08:15] <sinferno> djp, thnx
[08:15] <HappyFool> Gourami: you can try 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc'
[08:15] <peaceyall> anyone know why im getting tis error?
[08:15] <HappyFool> Gourami: read 'man hdparm' -- there's an interesting looking -X option there, though I haven't used in myself
[08:15] <Aerebus> alex, i dont know a lot about linux in fact i'm new but trying google for "linux system monitor" might help
[08:15] <Belutz> HappyFool: i also tried FreeSBIE just now
[08:15] <Gourami> ok its on now, let me see
[08:16] <HappyFool> Belutz: what's that? a live FreeBSD ?
[08:16] <davro> sinferno, what menu list are you after ? grub
[08:16] <shakel> alex: I'm not sur if there is a program that can controls he temp. only display what the temp is. and how fast your fans spin
[08:16] <Belutz> HappyFool: yup... a live FreeBSD
[08:16] <Gourami> HappyFool, problem fixed ure a genius
[08:16] <HappyFool> Gourami: heh. actually, that's on the wiki ;)
[08:16] <alex__> Aerebus: well, i use synaptic and there are a lot of programs, but the problems is that there are too many and i don't know what choose.
[08:16] <HappyFool> Belutz: sounds interesting
[08:17] <alex__> shakel: well, it's the program i am looking for!
[08:17] <shakel> alex__: pick one that best fits what your looking for
[08:17] <sinferno> davro, no gnome, my apps menu
[08:17] <Gourami> and humble too
[08:17] <sinferno> davro, i didnt want to install a menu editor really
[08:17] <Belutz> HappyFool: the FreeSBIE, come with a lot more applications in the live CD than Ubuntu... but Ubuntu is more easy to manage...
[08:18] <alex__> 28-Aerebus-: yes
[08:18] <djp> peaceyall: This error is returned if the kernel image being loaded is not recognized as Multiboot or one of the supported native formats
[08:18] <shakel> this OS is detected everything I have on my laptop, I really like it, ( haven tried o run a dvd thou.)
[08:18] <alex__> shakel: well, okey... but there are too many and i search an advice.
[08:18] <peaceyall> djp well wat can i do to fix it
[08:19] <shakel> alex : oh I understand what your after , sorry I havent gotten into that jut yet, if you know of any let me know It dont matter what I useI just want to seem my temps
[08:19] <Gourami> HappyFool, I presume that it will save that configuration ?
[08:19] <alex__> shakel: YES!
[08:20] <djp> peaceyall: i gather you dual-boot, yes?
[08:20] <peaceyall> nop
[08:20] <peaceyall> only ubuntu
[08:20] <shakel> alex : do you have a website or anything, i can get the programs from?
[08:20] <djp> peaceyall: hmm
[08:20] <shakel> ubuntu is number 1 so far
[08:21] <HappyFool> Gourami: no
[08:21] <HappyFool> Gourami: you can look at /etc/hdparm.conf to set the dma at boost
[08:21] <Gourami> what do I have to edit ?
[08:21] <HappyFool> boot, even
[08:21] <Gourami> hehe cool
[08:21] <HappyFool> Gourami: that file is a little bit fiddly: this is what i added:
[08:21] <HappyFool> /dev/hdc {
[08:21] <alex__> shakel...well, maybe i didn't explain it well... But i'm looking for a program that show the temperatures. I searched into synaptic and i got a lot of results and i can't choose
[08:21] <HappyFool>       dma = on
[08:21] <HappyFool> }
[08:22] <Belutz> HappyFool: should i use both ubuntu and winxp? if so, which one should i install first?
[08:22] <HappyFool> Gourami: i think it's important for there to be a space on either side of the '='
[08:22] <alexuk> my god, all the nicks are taken
[08:22] <HappyFool> Belutz: if you wish; it can be handy to have windows around -- i keep it for games
[08:22] <HappyFool> Belutz: install windows first. Look on the wiki for more on keeping windows and ubuntu in happy coexistence
[08:23] <Belutz> HappyFool: ok, thx :)
[08:23] <shakel> alex : I see then I will search along wih you, if I find anything i feel works I will pass it on to you.
[08:23] <alex__> ok
[08:23] <JDahl> Belutz, do you have partition magic? then it's quite easy
[08:24] <alexhuk> or a mandrake install cd
[08:24] <alexhuk> (don't quote me on that, I don't know if it'll allow you to resize a partition then quit the installer)
[08:24] <shakel> peaceyall: have you tried to reinstall?
[08:24] <Gourami> HappyFool, ok let me reboot to see if it works
[08:24] <HappyFool> Gourami: cool
[08:24] <alexhuk> (but it's the only(?) linux installer to allow NTFS resizing)
[08:25] <K4ZaDoR> i have problem with the instalation  ubuntu on mi iMac, somebody can to help me?
[08:25] <alex__> shakel: can i speak in PV?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> K4ZaDoR,  what kind of imac? I got it on my imacDV
[08:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> descovers the pipes screensaver
[08:25] <moire> hi, can somebody help to install an samsung usb printer in cups?
[08:25] <shakel> alex: sure hod on
[08:26] <K4ZaDoR> Imac 400 mhz DV
[08:26] <Belutz> JDahl: i don't have partition magic
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> K4ZaDoR,  it works good on mine. :P what problem ya haveing
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> well it "works" decently on mine Lol - i have a few little issues.
[08:27] <K4ZaDoR> when the system try to install show the "error with the multiseat system" :S
[08:27] <K4ZaDoR> and return to the menu
[08:27] <moire> i have downloaded a ppd from samsung for my usb printer, but cups seems to not detect it correctly
[08:27] <Belutz> brb... reading the wiki :D
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> K4ZaDoR,  Hmm.. No idea there - I dont have any other OS's on my imac however. You dual booting?
[08:27] <rob_lt> Anyone here have experience making gnome icon sets?
[08:27] <underline> im having some trouble with cinelerra... i finally installed it... but it isn't running... could anyone help me?? the error is: "cinelerra: relocation error: /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1: undefined symbol: faacDecClose"
[08:28] <neyz> hey all
[08:28] <moire> hi neyz
[08:29] <moire> do you have knowledge in cups?
[08:29] <neyz> does someone know if theres a package for the bmp docking package ? do i need to add some depots ?
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to run this file again? sc3u-demo-x86.run
[08:29] <underline> ChurcH_of_FoamY, ./sc3u-demo-x86.run
[08:29] <sinferno> so does smeg work with this version of gnome?
[08:30] <rob_lt> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod 755  sc3u-demo-x86.run && ./sc3u-demo-x86.run
[08:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bash: ./sc3u-demo-x86.run: Permission denied
[08:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[08:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll try that
[08:30] <underline> ChurcH_of_FoamY, su
[08:30] <underline> ChurcH_of_FoamY, and then try again
[08:30] <svu> what is the standard way in ubuntu to change the cpu frequency (on g5)?
[08:30] <phyrster> hi there, sorry to ask here but when I try to join #debian, server told me I am banned.
[08:31] <underline> ChurcH_of_FoamY, try as root... if it still not working, try to chmod the file
[08:31] <phyrster> I didn't do anything that causes a ban, what's wrong with #debian?
[08:31] <phyrster> or do I need to authenticate with something?
[08:31] <sinferno> how do i run a script??
[08:31] <underline> could anyone help with cinelerra??? "cinelerra: relocation error: /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1: undefined symbol: faacDecClose"
[08:31] <underline> sinferno, ./<script_name>
[08:31] <sinferno> thanks lol
[08:31] <underline> sinferno, in the script folder
[08:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well it's doin something
[08:32] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ cd /home/charles/
[08:32] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ ./installsmeg
[08:32] <sinferno> bash: ./installsmeg: Permission denied
[08:32] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ sudo ./installsmeg
[08:32] <sinferno> Password:
[08:32] <sinferno> sudo: ./installsmeg: command not found
[08:32] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$
[08:32] <sinferno> sorry
[08:32] <sinferno> that was big
[08:32] <sinferno> sry
[08:33] <Hieronymus> sinferno: please, next time, use a pastebin
[08:33] <Hieronymus> !pastebin
[08:33] <underline> sinferno, chmod 777 installsmeg
[08:33] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.com or #flood
[08:33] <underline> sinferno, try that
[08:33] <sinferno> thanks
[08:33] <Hieronymus> ubotu: forget pastebin
[08:33] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot pastebin
[08:33] <sinferno> underline, that worked thanks
[08:34] <underline> sinferno, you're welcome lo
[08:34] <underline> lol
[08:34] <sinferno> wait uhhh
[08:34] <sinferno> Error! Cleaning up...
[08:34] <sinferno> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:34] <K4ZaDoR_> sorry my conexion crash
[08:34] <sinferno> is that bad
[08:34] <Hieronymus> ubotu: pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[08:34] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[08:34] <underline> sinferno, kill the apt or dpkg
[08:34] <Hieronymus> !pastebin
[08:34] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[08:34] <Aerebus> Can someone tell me how to install software that is not included in the ubuntu distro? example, VMware-workstation-5.0.0-13124.tar.gz? I used the archive manager to place it into /home/nexus/downloads/vmware-distrib and now i have 6 folders (bin,doc,etc,man,lib,installer) and 2 files (FILES,vmware-install.pl), i checked inside of the installer folder and there is a file called services.sh lol i really dont know what i'm doing, anyone wa
[08:34] <Aerebus> nna educate me? :) o, i alsi checked wiki.ubuntu.com for this topic and only found info on updating an existing installation...
[08:34] <K4ZaDoR_> dr. wills are u there?
[08:34] <sinferno> Hieronymus, sorry i am not gonna paste anymore
[08:35] <Hieronymus> sinferno: nah, it's alright, I was just 'fine-tuning' ubotu
[08:35] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[08:35] <ubotu> thanks hieronymus :)
[08:35] <CanadianM> Hi everyone
[08:35] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: try to cd to that directory in a terminal and run "sh ./services.sh"
[08:35] <Hieronymus> CanadianM: good day
[08:35] <K4ZaDoR_> damn it! my imac not acept the Ubuntu :S
[08:35] <underline> sinferno, did it work??
[08:36] <CanadianM> Having a problem with Firestarter and VPNc connecting back to my office.  If I turn off Firestarter then no problems but with it on I can't get anywhere.   Followed the directions http://www.fs-security.com/docs/vpn.php at the bottom of that page and still no dice
[08:36] <CanadianM> any suggestions?
[08:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know what the heck this means? : http://pastebin.com/310101
[08:37] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, ok i'm in the directory but how t i run it? it has a lock icon on the main icon but when i type services.sh or run services.sh nothing happens
[08:38] <Hieronymus> sh ./services.sh
[08:38] <Hieronymus> or ./services.sh
[08:38] <QaDeS> is there anyone with good experience with apt-get? having a really bad time here
[08:38] <ArCHoNKoG> how would you install themes
[08:38] <Hieronymus> QaDeS: good experiences :)
[08:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have no problems with apt-get
[08:38] <Hieronymus> !apt-get
[08:38] <ubotu> apt-get is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:38] <QaDeS> i know the standard stuff, but this is not a trivial task, yanno
[08:38] <CanadianM> Anyone here use vpnc?
[08:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> try apt-get -l
[08:39] <QaDeS> tried around with about every single option but it's still no go
[08:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for to find dependancys for broken pacages
[08:39] <Hieronymus> QaDeS: what do you want?
[08:39] <Hieronymus> ..to do
[08:40] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, it says ./services.sh: line 88: vmware_product_name: command not found Warning: Unable to find 's main database /etc/vmware/locations.
[08:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know of that error?
[08:40] <QaDeS> got some packages installed from some other distri and want to replace them by the ubuntu ones
[08:40] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: sounds like you'll need to install it first
[08:40] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: doesn't it come with an INSTALL file, or README ?
[08:40] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, and it's ugly
[08:40] <QaDeS> upgrade, --reinstall install and dist-upgrade won't work tho
[08:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hondje why is it ugly?
[08:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and whats it mean?
[08:41] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, in /home/nexus/downloads/vmware-distrib the dir i extracted it to has a file called vmware-install.pl
[08:41] <hondje> because the program you're trying to run doesn't like ubuntu's libc6
[08:41] <medgno> QaDeS, did you try pinning hoary, hoary-updates, and hoary-security?
[08:41] <HappyFool> Gourami: working?
[08:42] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: try ./vmware-install.pl
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[08:42] <QaDeS> medgno, how do i do that?
[08:42] <Gourami> HappyFool, 100% :)
[08:42] <Gourami> thanks again
[08:42] <HappyFool> cool
[08:42] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm thinking you could get around it with some LD_ASSUME type magic, but I'm just shooting in the dark
[08:42] <HappyFool> Gourami: just noticed your hostname. you on vodacom 3g?
[08:42] <Gourami> NOW i can go watch a bugs life
[08:42] <QaDeS> only found information on release pinning which won't help
[08:42] <Gourami> yes HappyFool
[08:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hondje i don't even know what that is yet
[08:42] <medgno> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html talks about it a little
[08:42] <HappyFool> Gourami: and it works with linux?
[08:43] <Gourami> HappyFool, but I have to connect from a windows machine :{
[08:43] <QaDeS> ty :o) *reads*
[08:43] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I barely do myself :-)
[08:43] <HappyFool> Gourami: ah
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[08:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[08:43] <Gourami> HappyFool, I dont know how to get the device working in Ubuntu
[08:43] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, ok i think its working it says Creating a new installer database using the tar3 format. Installing the content of the package. In which directory do you want to install the binary files? [/usr/bin]  what do i do?
[08:43] <medgno> to get it so that a distibution is favored so much it'll downgrade packages to get there, set the priority at 1001 or higher
[08:43] <HappyFool> Gourami: me either.
[08:43] <Gourami> the dial-up connections are very basic, its just the device
[08:43] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: you type in what you want, or go with the default and press enter
[08:44] <medgno> I personally did hoary at 1001, hoary-updates at 1002 and hoary-security at 1003
[08:44] <Gourami> will tackle it at some time or another
[08:44] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: you need to be root to install in /usr/bin though
[08:44] <Aerebus> can i install it to /home/nexus/ ?
[08:44] <nybble> anyone have experience with a Cisco 2516 router?
[08:44] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: sudo ./vmware-installer.pl
[08:44] <HappyFool> Gourami: hrm yeah. i guess asking vodacom will not yield much ;)
[08:44] <Gourami> HappyFool, if you ever figure it out pls let me know
[08:44] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: sure
[08:45] <Aerebus> it will work properly still?
[08:45] <ArCHoNKoG> what is the default path for backgrouds
[08:45] <QaDeS> lol i'm a dork :*] 
[08:45] <Hieronymus> but it's nicer to install in /usr/bin
[08:45] <HappyFool> Gourami: you could maybe ask on www.myadsl.co.za -- i know one guy there go the sentech modems working with linux
[08:45] <medgno> my /etc/apt/preferences is at http://medievalgnome.org/~medgno/preferences.txt. if you take that and dist-upgrade, it'll replace all sarge things it can
[08:45] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: yeah it will
[08:45] <Discipulus> Anyone wanna sign my GPG Key?
[08:45] <QaDeS> ty medgno. shouldn't have done it with "stable" as a release name ;)
[08:45] <Aerebus> it says, What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc] ?
[08:46] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: no idea, go with the default :p
[08:46] <medgno> QaDeS, no worries, it took me too long to figure out
[08:46] <Gourami> HappyFool, but isnt ADSL and GPRS very different, I connect via a Motorola V3 (cellular GPRS)
[08:46] <Discipulus> Aerebus, /etc/init.d
[08:46] <action09> i'm asking myself why in Ubuntuguide (us/uk) there are Ubuntu backports, and why in French guide there are not but 'Debian' Marillat depository.. not fully supported..
[08:46] <Hieronymus> !ubguide
[08:46] <ubotu> methinks ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[08:46] <HappyFool> Gourami: indeed. i just suggested it as a possibly useful forum. several ZA tech-heads there
[08:47] <Hieronymus> action09: that's evil/bad of the french wiki, edit it immediately!
[08:47] <Gourami> ah ok will check it out, thanks HappyFool
[08:47] <action09> Hieronymus, hmm :)
[08:47] <GigaClon> does Ubuntu come with gcc?
[08:47] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: it can be installed
[08:48] <GigaClon> link?
[08:48] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: if you want to compile, install build-essential
[08:48] <DekaPink> Anyone know anything about obsidian?
[08:48] <hondje> Yes, it's a black rock formed by volcanic action
[08:48] <K4ZaDoR_> anyone have ubuntu in iMac?
[08:48] <DekaPink> No, I mean the fserve for xchat. :P
[08:50] <DekaPink> I can't seem to work it. Hehe.
[08:51] <GigaClon> Hieronymus: where do i run that
[08:51] <bccs> hi
[08:51] <GigaClon> im getting "too few arguments"
[08:51] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:51] <Hieronymus> !apt-get
[08:51] <ubotu> apt-get is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:51] <Hieronymus> or use a tool like synaptic (gui) or aptitude (cli)
[08:52] <Aerebus> it says, it was trying to find a suitable vmon module for my running kernel and it cannot find one, it can build one for my system but i need a C compiler installed, do i select yes?
[08:52] <bccs> i'm trying to listen some netradio with xmms, but it crashes. any help?
[08:52] <HappyFool> Aerebus: have you installed gcc (or build-essential) ?
[08:53] <Aerebus> Happyfool, i dont think so...
[08:53] <HappyFool> Aerebus: maybe do that first
[08:53] <Aerebus> Happyfool, what should i do?
[08:53] <HappyFool> Aerebus: it will probably just give an error message if you choose yes
[08:53] <HappyFool> Aerebus: i'd choose 'no' and install build-essential, and linux-headers-<something> first
[08:54] <linlin> every time i add a new directory to my ~/public_html directory, the permissions do not get proplerly set and the directory comes up forbidden. How do i fix this?
[08:54] <Aerebus> Happyfool, i dont know what to do
[08:54] <Iolop> what does ubuntu mean
[08:54] <HappyFool> linlin: you can look at the 'umask' bash command
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> linlin,  umask command - i do belive is your answer. :P
[08:54] <HappyFool> linlin: assuming you're working in bash
[08:55] <Aerebus> Will synaptic install GCC?
[08:55] <Iolop> what does ubuntu mean
[08:55] <HappyFool> Iolop: humanity, more or less
[08:55] <HappyFool> Aerebus: yeah, install the 'build-essential' package
[08:55] <HappyFool> Aerebus: that will install gcc
[08:55] <underline> Iolop, humanity for the others - something like that
[08:55] <Iolop> iok
[08:55] <linlin> what exactly would i run to fix the permissions?
[08:55] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <Aerebus> Happyfool, what do i look for in synaptic? GCC?
[08:56] <HappyFool> Aerebus: 'build-essential'
[08:56] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[08:56] <linlin> sudo apt-get install build-essential in a console is easier
[08:57] <HappyFool> Hieronymus: you goal is to make ubotu the sum of all human knowledge? :)
[08:58] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: yes, let him be the tree of knowledge http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/introduction/home/we_honor_the_tree_of_knowledge.html
[08:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why does the .aptitude folder have a lock icon and an xicon?
[08:59] <Jet2k5> can anyone view videos from this website in firefox?
[08:59] <Jet2k5> http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/videos.jsp?setID=Terry%20Barwegen&resID=hi
[08:59] <Jet2k5> or does it give you the " Click here to download plugin "
[08:59] <Hieronymus> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ownership root I guess
[08:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[09:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was hopeing that the x meant that and not "i'm broken" lol
[09:00] <bcc|grave> Jet2k5, yes, you need the mplayer plugin
[09:00] <GigaClon> is there a keyboard command for switching between workspaces?
[09:00] <Jet2k5> bcc|grave: ok do you know the package name?
[09:00] <bcc|grave> Jet2k5, I think: mozilla-mplayer
[09:02] <salah> hi
[09:02] <HappyFool> hello
[09:02] <Keanu> anyone know a bandwidth-limiter other than trickle?
[09:03] <salah> alguien que hable ispaol..?
[09:03] <HappyFool> salah: try #ubuntu-es   (/join #ubuntu-es)
[09:03] <Jet2k5> bcc|grave: thank you very much for your help
[09:03] <Aerebus> Happyfool, my cdrom isnt work lol i cant install
[09:03] <QaDeS> hmmm what's the default kernel in hoary?
[09:04] <Aerebus> i'll be back in a bit lol
[09:04] <HappyFool> Aerebus: it is physically broken?
[09:04] <Aerebus> i dont know
[09:04] <Aerebus> i doubt it
[09:04] <Hieronymus> !info kernel
[09:04] <HappyFool> QaDeS: 2.6.10
[09:04] <Aerebus> i think there is a loose ide cable or something
[09:04] <Heimdall_linux> salah, puedo hablar espanol pero no pienso que puedo decir algo buen hablando de linux :)
[09:04] <Aerebus> it happened before
[09:04] <Heimdall_linux> lol woooow I'm speaking spanish !!
[09:04] <Aerebus> bbiab
[09:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: you can tell him about #ubuntu-es, though I think it might not be busy
[09:05] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, I think #channel_name is internationnal :)
[09:05] <QaDeS> ty HappyFool
[09:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: depends if he speaks irc or not ;)
[09:06] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hey, got it to work yet?
[09:06] <Heimdall_linux> salah, entonces, HappyFool me dices que tu puedes ir en el chan #ubuntu-es para preguntar cosas :)
[09:06] <Heimdall_linux> well it is very bad spanish :)
[09:07] <sinferno> what happened to cdemu?
[09:07] <HappyFool> heh
[09:07] <Hieronymus> !info cdemu
[09:07] <Heimdall_linux> 5-6 years that I don't speak spanish... just forgot :)
[09:07] <_breed> Have any of you been getting MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs?
[09:07] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, do you talk to us with x-chat ?
[09:07] <Hieronymus> _breed: us mirror?
[09:07] <sinferno> cause i cant mount this .bin file
[09:07] <QaDeS> amazing...i'm trying to install kernel-image-2.6.10-5-686 and apt wants to downgrade my whole system o.O
[09:07] <_breed> yes
[09:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: yip
[09:08] <Hieronymus> _breed: it's broken I think
[09:08] <HappyFool> i'm not clever enough to use emacs for irc too ;)
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> This is an unauthorized cybernetic announcement.
[09:08] <Hieronymus> !usmirror
[09:08] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[09:08] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, if I want to redirect ports ('cause I'm behind a router) for xdcc, which one is it ? 1080 or 6667 ?
[09:08] <_breed> thanx
[09:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: um
[09:09] <cbreathe> Synaptic is really confusing me.
[09:09] <Heimdall_linux> I think ubuntu has no firewall so it should be correct
[09:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: sorry, i don't actually know
[09:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: dcc rarely works for me
[09:09] <Heimdall_linux> ah :)
[09:10] <cbreathe> Why is it that when I add a new repository to sources.list only half the packages (and none of the ones I want!) show up in Synaptic?
[09:10] <Belutz> HappyFool: should i download the dvd or the cd for installing?
[09:10] <HappyFool> Belutz: well, i used the cd
[09:11] <HappyFool> Belutz: but i have dial-up ;)
[09:11] <_breed> That was it. Thanx Hieronymus!
[09:11] <HappyFool> Belutz: you might as well use the CD, and install what your want off the internet using synaptic
[09:11] <Hieronymus> _breed: np
[09:11] <Belutz> HappyFool: ok, thx for the advice :D
[09:12] <cbreathe> All I can think of is that it has something to do with my machine being amd64.
[09:12] <Hieronymus> ubotu: usmirror is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[09:12] <umfana> hi
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> looks through synaptic "what the heck is 3d desktop"?
[09:13] <DarkSpy> can I choose a specific kernel (amd k7) during installation?
[09:13] <Hieronymus> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sounds like eyeglass
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi ubotu
[09:13] <Hieronymus> DarkSpy: you can install it afterwards
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[09:13] <Hieronymus> hi ubotu
[09:13] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[09:13] <ubotu> thanks hieronymus :)
[09:13] <DarkSpy> Hieronymus: that's my only option?
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Hieronymus is it actually what it says
[09:14] <Hieronymus> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ?
[09:14] <Hieronymus> DarkSpy: I don't think you can during install, but I don't know
[09:14] <DarkSpy> there's not a boot parameter?
[09:14] <Hieronymus> press f2 or f3 for options
[09:14] <Hieronymus> DarkSpy: there is, for example for server install
[09:14] <DarkSpy> I've looked but haven't found anything
[09:15] <DarkSpy> I wanted to install the k7 specific kernel instead of the default
[09:15] <ben> Hi there, again!
[09:15] <Nerull> lo
[09:15] <cbreathe> Hi, ben.
[09:16] <cbreathe> So, anyone have any ideas re:Synaptic?
[09:16] <ben> A couple of hours ago i got some great help here concerning an ubuntu install. now im back in trouble... ;)
[09:16] <Hieronymus> ben: shoot
[09:17] <Shadowpillar> how do I get my gamepad working in ubuntu?
[09:17] <Shadowpillar> it's standard gameport
[09:17] <Shadowpillar> not usb
[09:17] <Shadowpillar> and /dev/js* and /dev/input/js* dont exist
[09:17] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: post your sources.list in a pastebin
[09:17] <sinferno> ok im installing cdemu, and it says i need the source of my current running kerne;
[09:17] <GigaClon> anyone installed libmad?
[09:17] <Hieronymus> !pastebin
[09:17] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[09:17] <sinferno> cause i have to build the module
[09:17] <Shadowpillar> I modprobe'd all the modules as well
[09:18] <Shadowpillar> anyone?
[09:18] <ben> im trying to install the latest ubuntu on a really old (97ish) laptop. everything during install works fine up until the setup tries to copy and extract nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di . there, install goes into a loop. ive tried burning another copy of the cd - doesnt help. any idea?
[09:19] <ben> ive tried noapci, nolapci, vga=771 (even though that really cant be it...)
[09:19] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: Done, thanks.
[09:19] <sinferno> it says i need my kernel source before i build this module, im not sure what that means im scared to mess with my kernel
[09:19] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: where?
[09:20] <ben> i found ONE instance of this case via google but there was no answer to that fellow either.
[09:20] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/460
[09:20] <Hieronymus> !info nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di
[09:20] <Hieronymus> !info nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di
[09:21] <Hieronymus> ubotu can't find it, ben
[09:21] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:21] <HappyFool> i can't find any debs with 'nic-extra' in the name
[09:21] <ben> :( thanks for looking, hieronymus
[09:21] <ben> can i just tell the installer to skip packages it has problems with?
[09:21] <Mafi> i need some help with updateing firefox
[09:22] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: uhh, there's a # in front of them, so they're commented out
[09:22] <Hieronymus> :/
[09:22] <Hieronymus> !sources
[09:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:22] <bitvector2> Hi folks, I'm thinking of trying ubuntu on a IBM T42 laptop, but wondering if suspending is supported out of the box?
[09:22] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: Except the last one.
[09:22] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: I commented the rest out so I could try to isolate the problem with the last one.
[09:23] <Mafi> if someone could help please query me to past a error form synaptic
[09:23] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: okay
[09:23] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: Is it only going to show packages that work on amd64?
[09:23] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: possible, are you sure you don't need to add 'main' or something?
[09:24] <GigaClon> about synaptic, I can't find it.
[09:25] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: How can I find out? I know that packages.gz is in http://ubuntu.nooms.de/hoary/.
[09:25] <Hieronymus> cbreathe: maybe remove the space between ubuntu.nooms.de and hoary?
[09:25] <Hieronymus> there's a space in-between
[09:25] <GigaClon> the wiki says its in Computer -> System Configuration
[09:26] <HappyFool> GigaClon: try System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[09:26] <cbreathe> Hieronymus: That results in a syntax error. I'm pretty sure the line is right because I get some packages listed in synaptic after an apt-get update.
[09:26] <HappyFool> GigaClon: the wiki is probably describing ubuntu 4.10
[09:26] <dtudosie> hello
[09:27] <dtudosie> anybody installed gnucash in breezy ?
[09:27] <ben> i really wonder whats going on here. cd-integrity is running fine and just passed nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di...
[09:28] <ben> is there an installation-method in which i first copy the cd to the hd and then install from there?
[09:28] <Hieronymus> !linux-source
[09:28] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hieronymus
[09:28] <Hieronymus> !linuxsource
[09:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[09:28] <Hieronymus> !linux
[09:28] <ubotu> [linux]  the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:28] <Hieronymus> !source
[09:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I haven't a clue
[09:30] <Mafi> I've broken firefox by trying to update it with synaptic. please help. it's not starting
[09:30] <mirshafie> im having a problem with installing new applications. with apt-get i get an error message that says dpkg fails to read `/var/lib/dpkg/available', because there is no such dir. what's gone wrong?
[09:31] <redtech> ok, what is the most usuable dvd player?
[09:31] <blackout> i just installed/built the hostap-source packages, and now my hermes card is somehow now not detected - hermes modules are not loaded automatically for some reason.  I've uninstalled the hostap-source package even, and the behavior persists, making the card unusable
[09:31] <Mafi> I've broken firefox by trying to update it with synaptic. please help. it's not starting. migth be caused of installing of libcairo?
[09:32] <Blissex> mirshafie: try 'du -m /var/lib/dpkg' what do you get? Paste to a paste site the result...
[09:32] <redtech> !alternative
[09:32] <blackout> thoughts?  could this be a discover issue?  any way to "reset" hardware detection - it worked great during the install
[09:32] <ubotu> hmm... alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:32] <dtudosie> does anybody knows how to install gnucash in breezy ? it depends on some pachages that are not installable (libgtkhtml20 and libofx0c102)
[09:32] <Blissex> dtudosie: Breezy AFAIK is explicitly not guaranteed to work... As in ''you are on your own...''
[09:33] <mirshafie> Blissex: i get a list of dirs. should i paste them all?
[09:33] <Blissex> mirshafie: yes, with their sizes...
[09:33] <HappyFool> blackout: i can only suggest looking in /var/log/dmesg and see if that suggests anything
[09:33] <ntoll> guys, any suggestions for a dvd authoring package for Ubuntu? I want to create DVD menus and mpeg2 video content for hom video disks TIA
[09:33] <Blissex> dtudosie: please read the /topic of this channel...
[09:33] <mirshafie> Blissex: [21:29:13]  ~ $ du -m /var/lib/dpkg
[09:33] <mirshafie> 22      /var/lib/dpkg/info
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/parts
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/methods/disk
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/methods/floppy
[09:33] <mirshafie> 1       /var/lib/dpkg/methods
[09:33] <Blissex> mirshafie: I suggested to paste or a paste site...
[09:33] <mirshafie> 24      /var/lib/dpkg
[09:33] <Blissex> mirshafie: I suggested to paste to a paste site...
[09:34] <mirshafie> sorry
[09:34] <cbreathe> This is a very basic question, but:
[09:34] <blackout> HappyFool, issues with irq conflicts - suggests booting with irqpoll option, but i dont' know what that means/entails
[09:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> EWWWW! SPAM!
[09:34] <dtudosie> Blissex: ok...
[09:34] <Blissex> mirshafie: however the good news is that '/var/lib/dpkg/info' is 22 MB, so you have not lost that, and that's important.
[09:34] <HappyFool> blackout: i *think* it's a kernel parameter
[09:34] <Mafi> why do I get this? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[09:34] <blackout> irq 11: nobody cared
[09:35] <blackout> unfortunately, this bug has rendered my system unusable
[09:35] <mirshafie> Blissex: ok, so is there any way to correct the other problems?
[09:35] <Blissex> mirshafie: just 'mkdir' the missing directory as 'root' and try again, it _may_ just fix things. Hard to say what could have gone wrong.
[09:35] <blackout> HappyFool, how then, would i use this kernel parameter?
[09:35] <HappyFool> blackout: is this of any help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingIRQProblems
[09:35] <mirshafie> blissex: ok. thanks
[09:35] <HappyFool> blackout: you can edit grub boot parameters with 'e', i think, if you can get to the grub boot menu
[09:36] <Blissex> mirshafie: but wait a second, did you say '/var/lib/dpkg/available'?
[09:36] <mirshafie> blissex: yes
[09:37] <dtudosie> Blissex: gnucash: however, I hope it will be supported in the final release... otherwise I would have a major reason * not* to upgrade to breezy...
[09:37] <Blissex> mirshafie: uh, thats actually a file. if there is a file called '/var/lib/dpkg/available.old' rename it to '/var/lib/dpkg/available'.
[09:37] <blackout> HappyFool, I can, and am trying it now
[09:38] <HappyFool> blackout: you might want 'irqpoll=off' (or =on... ? i don't know what the default is)
[09:38] <Blissex> mirshafie: or look for the string "available" in 'man dpkg'. it will tell you two ways to rebuild a current version.
[09:39] <Mafi> why do I get this? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[09:41] <exwindowsuser> does anyone know how I can get a program to run everytime my ubuntu system starts? (in a manner similar to a 'startup' item in windows)
[09:41] <itz> exwindowsuser,  yes
[09:41] <Mafi> eXhumed, something like crond
[09:41] <Blissex> exwindowsuser: adding it to the '/etc/rc*' directory for the runlevel.
[09:42] <itz> lol u can do it much easier
[09:42] <exwindowsuser> okay
[09:42] <Mafi> eXhumed, or like Blissex sayd
[09:42] <{Seb}> exwindowuser: or you could add it to the GNOME Session Preferences
[09:42] <anacron> itz: why would you do something easily when you can make it hard!
[09:43] <blackout> HappyFool, darn, i just tried with irqpoll
[09:43] <itz> IN ur "startmenu" or near ctually/system / settings / sessions / startprogram
[09:43] <itz> exwindowsuser,
[09:44] <itz> anacron, hey give us exwindowsfreak some rest huh? :D
[09:44] <blackout> well this is killing my ubuntu experience
[09:44] <napsy> Hi. Everytime a restart my mashina and log in to GNOME, it says HAL failed to initialise. Is there a way to fix this problem?
[09:44] <itz> exwindowsuser, did u understand? ;)
[09:44] <Mafi> can someone teach me how to repair firefox
[09:44] <exwindowsuser> trying it now :)
[09:44] <itz> gr8
[09:45] <Mafi> I've broken it when I've tryed to update
[09:45] <Mafi> now it does not start anymore
[09:45] <anacron> itz: but it's more fun to make things hard way and learn really something, than make it like windowslike click and drag style :D
[09:45] <Helpless> Does anyonw know what it means when you try to install 64-bit ubuntu and you get the error message "Kernel Panic - Not syncing"
[09:45] <anacron> Mafi: try to remove it and install again or something like that?
[09:45] <exwindowsuser> ok, thanks i see how it goes that way
[09:46] <itz> anacron, i get ur point but sometimes its just gets to much
[09:46] <Mafi> anacron, can you assist me?
[09:46] <exwindowsuser> is there away I can do it from the commandline?
[09:46] <anacron> itz: thats true also, sometimes you have to get job done fast :)
[09:46] <Helpless> Does anyone know what it means when you try to install 64-bit ubuntu and you get the error message "Kernel Panic - Not syncing"
[09:47] <itz> Yeah before i lose my manner and delete ubuntu :o
[09:47] <anacron> Mafi: sure i can try
[09:47] <Helpless> did I already ask that, I'm sorry
[09:48] <Mafi> anacron, now I've removed 1.0.2 and I have only 1.0.4 left in synaptic
[09:48] <Aerebus> Happyfool, i'm back :)
[09:48] <Aerebus> bah
[09:48] <Aerebus> lol
[09:48] <Mafi> anacron, and that's the version I can't install
[09:48] <anacron> Helpless: have you check out there isn't something like 64bit ubuntu wiki?
[09:48] <Mafi> anacron, because I get this:  Depends: libcairo1 (>=0.3.0) but it is not installable
[09:48] <anacron> Mafi: is your sources allright?
[09:48] <Helpless> anacron: Ubuntu for AMD 64 processors, I'm sorry
[09:49] <Mafi> I have the sources from ubuntuguide
[09:49] <Mafi> anacron,  I have the sources from ubuntuguide
[09:49] <Hieronymus> !ubguide
[09:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[09:50] <anacron> Mafi: what does it say when you try to install libcairo1 etc?
[09:50] <{Seb}> ubotu: why does it say that?
[09:50] <ubotu> {Seb}: No idea
[09:50] <{Seb}> ubotu: i think it is quite good actually
[09:51] <ubotu> {Seb}: what are you talking about?
[09:51] <{Seb}> ubotu: about advising people not to use ubuntuguide.org
[09:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, {Seb}
[09:51] <Mafi> anacron, firefox:
[09:51] <Mafi>  Depends: libcairo1 (>=0.3.0) but it is not installable
[09:51] <Mafi>  Depends: mozilla-firefox but it is not going to be installed
[09:51] <anacron> there were some bad sources in ubuntuguide for an exsample
[09:51] <{Seb}> fair enough
[09:51] <mirshafie> Blissex: I cant find anything about available in 'man dpkg', but there was however an available-old file in /var/lib/dpkg. i renamed it, and now i get a parse error about a field name (near line 2) that must be followed by colon. i guess this should be easy to fix, except i dont find any code in the file that i dare messing around with. most of it is text
[09:51] <Mafi> can you give me a good source list?
[09:52] <anacron> Mafi: try to force it with -f or something like that (check apt-get --help)
[09:52] <Mafi> anacron, apt-get what?
[09:52] <{Seb}> what is number 8 about on that page?
[09:52] <anacron> Mafi: well try just apt-get --help and then add upgrade or install if it won't work
[09:53] <anacron> Mafi: maybe we should move to private chating, this is kinda annoying for the other people who try to get help
[09:53] <{Seb}> i've been away from the ubuntu sceen
[09:54] <{Seb}> it is nice to be back
[09:54] <Hieronymus> good sources.list
[09:54] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know of a wireless PC card for Mac that is virtually guaranteed to work on Ubuntu?
[09:54] <Hieronymus> !sources
[09:54] <ubotu> I guess sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:54] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, befor ei left to fix my cdrom so i could install build-essentials from synaptic in order to finish up installing vmware, i believe you were helping me. anyhow i was at this point: it was trying to find a suitable vmon module for my running kernel and it couldnt find one, it can build one for my system but i need a C compiler installed, i fixed my cdrom and just installed build-essentials thru synaptic, is there something els
[09:54] <Aerebus> e i need to install in order to let it build a vmon module?
[09:54] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: yes
[09:54] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: The D-Link 11g USB Stick (DGL-122 IIRC)
[09:54] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: I don't think so, if it only mentioned gcc
[09:55] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, ok so retry to configure it?
[09:55] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: yep
[09:55] <HaroldJohnson> {Seb}, Are you certain of this?
[09:55] <bccs> Aerebus, dont think so either
[09:55] <eliUbuntu> Question, how you do move "places" and "system" menu bars under the "applications" menu bar?
[09:55] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: pretty much
[09:55] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: It uses the Prism2 chipest
[09:55] <HaroldJohnson> {Seb}, Oh, shoot - my old PowerBook G3 doesn't have USB.
[09:55] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: which has Linux drivers and doesn't need ndiswrapper
[09:56] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: most cards with a Prism2 chipest should owkr
[09:56] <{Seb}> *work
[09:56] <HaroldJohnson> {Seb}, I'm having an impossible time getting my D-Link to work on this PowerBook G3.
[09:56] <Hieronymus> {Seb}: free gnu/linux drivers?
[09:56] <{Seb}> yep
[09:56] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hey :)
[09:56] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: what D-Link?
[09:56] <HaroldJohnson> Hey there, jcoxon
[09:56] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, no success
[09:57] <{Seb}> Hieronymus: it is in the Kernel IIRC
[09:57] <HaroldJohnson> {Seb}, The D-Link DWL-G630
[09:57] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Not yet
[09:57] <{Seb}> 54g?
[09:57] <ameoba> I read something the other day about Ubuntu as a server.  I'd always considered it more of a desktop distro - how well suited to a server is it compared to straight Debian?
[09:57] <HaroldJohnson> {Seb}, Yes, it should be.
[09:57] <{Seb}> ameoba: i use ubuntu on my server
[09:57] <jcoxon> got any further?
[09:57] <{Seb}> HaroldJohnson: i can also certainnly bet it will never work
[09:57] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Somewhat, but probably not really.
[09:58] <{Seb}> ameoba: i like having a gnome desktop on my server so i can use the BitTorrent client ;-)
[09:58] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, have you tried restarting with the card inserted?
[09:58] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I followed those instructions, but when I run iwcong I still get nothing.
[09:58] <eliUbuntu> anyone one know how to move the menu's on the panel? such as moving "Places" under the menu of "Applications"?
[09:58] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, You mean rebooting?
[09:58] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, yeah
[09:59] <medgno> eliUbuntu, I think that's very hard to do
[09:59] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, sometimes they have weird ways of initalising themselves
[09:59] <ameoba> {Seb}: thinking about a pretty minimal headless (post-install) setup - mostly just apache+python CGI stuff
[09:59] <HaroldJohnson> Okay, I'll try it.  Do I need to move the new kernel back to my Mac OS 9 partition for BootX?
[10:00] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, you don't have a new kenel :)
[10:00] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, we killed it before it was made
[10:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> good bot
[10:00] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, the original one will work find
[10:00] <phenomeno> anyone can help me with installing the ati drivers?
[10:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu how are you?
[10:00] <ubotu> ChurcH_of_FoamY: just great
[10:01] <eliUbuntu> medgno: thanks for the tip. I was afraid that it would be difficult to do
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu what are you doing?
[10:01] <ubotu> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what are you talking about?
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[10:01] <noob-leech> Um... I have a newbie question...
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: how did it suddenly be able to do that?
[10:01] <eliUbuntu> phenomeno: what type of ati card do you have?
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> noob-leech: go ahead
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't know
[10:01] <phenomeno> 9600
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just did it
[10:01] <djp> should i be using anything with regards security if i am running postfix under hoary? if so what is used by default in ubuntu?
[10:02] <medgno> eliUbuntu, you can try adding the "Main Menu" applet to the panel, and see if that's more what you're looking for
[10:02] <noob-leech> Is there any way to play Monkey Audio 3.99 files under Rhythmbox (gstreamer)?
[10:02] <DJLarZ> Dude, what is SSL????????????????????
[10:02] <eliUbuntu> dont use the ati card driver, its a mess. let me get you a link for installing a driver that is used for ati cards.
[10:02] <tiglionabbit> Monkey?
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu what's new?
[10:02] <ubotu> ChurcH_of_FoamY: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:02] <eliUbuntu> i use it myself and it works really good
[10:02] <GigaClon> secure sockets layer DJLarZ
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> theres a new one
[10:02] <phenomeno> oke :) thank you
[10:02] <noob-leech> tiglionabbit:  Monkey's audio... lossless format with extension .ape.
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu news
[10:03] <GigaClon> anyone use liblua?
[10:03] <tiglionabbit> noob-leech: I've never heard of those.  wow
[10:03] <phenomeno> can you play games with that driver?
[10:03] <DJLarZ> gigaclon: how do you download it? i need it for installing wine!
[10:03] <Shadowpillar> how do I get my gamepad working in ubuntu?
[10:03] <GigaClon> dunno
[10:03] <Shadowpillar> anyone?
[10:03] <GigaClon> it should be there
[10:03] <Shadowpillar> it's a standard gameport
[10:03] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, ok it says when i try to build te module "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] " when i use that choice as default it says "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory." what should i do?
[10:03] <Shadowpillar> not USB
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> emu10k1 gameport module loaded
[10:04] <Shadowpillar> modprobe'd joydev.ko
[10:04] <noob-leech> There is a gst-monkeysaudio plugin... but it's no longer maintained due to some license issues. ;(
[10:04] <IKnowNothingAbou> Umm... I have an AMD64 processor, but I can't install 64-bit Ubuntu... Says "Kernel Panic- Not Synching" when I try to install.... Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:04] <eliUbuntu> one more min phenomeno
[10:04] <phenomeno> oke
[10:05] <Aerebus> bccs, do you have any ideas?
[10:05] <bccs> Aerebus, well
[10:05] <bccs> in synaptic
[10:06] <bccs> check where the files of the build-essencial package are
[10:06] <Hieronymus> Aerebus: install linux-header files
[10:06] <Hieronymus> figure out where these are installed
[10:08] <eliUbuntu> phenomeno: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[10:08] <admin0>  gdesklets: Depends: python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed
[10:08] <admin0>   ---
[10:08] <admin0>  gdesklets: Depends: python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed
[10:08] <admin0> how to fix that please ?
[10:08] <phenomeno> ok thank you eliUbuntu
[10:08] <phenomeno> i also have problem with installing mplayer, I type sudo apt-get install mplayer-386(as said on www.ubuntuguide.org) but i get an error that some packges aroe not the same
[10:08] <eliUbuntu> phenomeno, also check out fglrx drivers
[10:08] <Aerebus> Hieronymus or bccs can one of you join #flood?
[10:08] <eliUbuntu> very stable
[10:09] <admin0> i am trying to apt-get gdesklets, and the error is:  gdesklets: Depends: python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed .. i am not sure what I am doing is wrong
[10:09] <_john> SSH server doesn't appear to work with tcp-wrappers, should it?
[10:09] <admin0>  i am trying to apt-get gdesklets, and the error is:  gdesklets: Depends: python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed .. i am not sure what I am doing is wrong
[10:09] <eliUbuntu> admin0: how are you installing gdesklets?
[10:09] <admin0> ouch
[10:10] <eliUbuntu> ah, you're missing a repository
[10:10] <admin0> sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[10:10] <admin0> am I ?
[10:10] <noob-leech> sudo apt-get install python-gnome2-extra ??
[10:10] <noob-leech> *extras
[10:10] <eliUbuntu> i think so, some libs were missing when i tried to install it once before
[10:10] <phenomeno> eliUbuntu,  isn't that the regular driver?
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, how do I create a new wiki page?
[10:11] <Aerebus> Hieronymus, bccs, i think its /user/share/build-essentials but i'm not sure when i go into synaptic and right click properties and click on the installed files tab i see 13 directories
[10:11] <comadreja> I'm looking for any of the members of the ubuntu/gnome team
[10:11] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: you need to log in first
[10:11] <admin0> python-gnome2-extras: Depends: python2.4-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed
[10:11] <admin0> E: Broken packages
[10:11] <Hieronymus> comadreja: #ubuntu-devel
[10:11] <eliUbuntu> phenomeno: that is a regular driver, but its 3d acceleration is very good and normally no problems occur using it
[10:11] <admin0> that is what i get noob-leech
[10:11] <Hieronymus> admin0: backports, breezy?
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: I'm logged in.  Where's the add button?
[10:11] <phenomeno> oke than :)
[10:11] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: no idea
[10:11] <eliUbuntu> gotta go, good luck
[10:11] <admin0> i followed the startup gudie
[10:11] <admin0> on the sources.list
[10:11] <Hieronymus> !wiki addpage
[10:11] <bccs> Aerebus, let me see here...
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> ameoba: which startup guide?
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> oops, I meant that for admin0
[10:12] <admin0> ubuntuguide.org ?
[10:12] <Hieronymus> just go to wiki.ubuntu.com/mynewcoolpage
[10:12] <eliUbuntu> if you're using any us.* addresses in your repository, change get rid of us. and leave the rest in
[10:12] <Hieronymus> !usmirror
[10:12] <ubotu> hmm... usmirror is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <eliUbuntu> there has been a lot of problems with the us.* repositories
[10:12] <bccs> #flood
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: oh, I clicked on my name, and there was a cleate new empty page link
[10:13] <bccs> sorry about that
[10:13] <Geoffrian> Has anyone here used Linux From Scratch??
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> admin0: don't use ubuntuguide.  Read the wiki instead
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntuguide
[10:13] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:13] <admin0> i followed some forums and i don't have any us.
[10:13] <Hieronymus> !ubguide
[10:13] <ubotu> methinks ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:13] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[10:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:13] <admin0> last time I used ubuntu, it was all fine.. i had no idea of the guide
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> admin0: make sure your repositories are good
[10:14] <admin0> this time, i followed the guide and am having errors :D
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> admin0: wow, good advertisement for it
[10:14] <noob-leech> Hmm... which are the "good" repos?
[10:14] <Hieronymus> !sources
[10:14] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:14] <Hieronymus> noob-leech: listen to ubotu
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> noob-leech: they would be "good" if they go no further than the sources in that sources list there.  No non-ubuntu sources, and comment out backports when you don't need them
[10:15] <admin0> just those sources are OK ubotu ?
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> yes
[10:15] <sjmurdoch> What has happened to ubuntu-calendar? There hasn't been any updates for a while
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu is a bot, btw
[10:15] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[10:15] <IKnowNothingAbou> Anyone know what to do when you see this in the console: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntu-desktop:
[10:15] <IKnowNothingAbou>  ubuntu-desktop depends on ttf-freefont; however:
[10:15] <IKnowNothingAbou>   Package ttf-freefont is not configured yet.
[10:15] <qt2_> err, having to sudo to copy stuff is a bit annoying... :P
[10:15] <hotte-> hi @ all
[10:15] <jasoncohen> sjmurdoch, i heard the project is being restarted but the last available calendar was from april
[10:16] <jtgameover> what's the easiest way to configure a wireless card in ubuntu?
[10:16] <hotte-> 1 question how i can auto start torsmo?
[10:16] <admin0> iwconfig
[10:16] <jtgameover> this is a wireless card that i "disabled" in windows though
[10:16] <jtgameover> and doesn't wireless show up as eth1?
[10:16] <admin0> iwconfig eth1 essid youressid ; iwconfig ess1 key  yourkey;
[10:16] <admin0> try iwconfig
[10:16] <admin0> does it show anything ?
[10:16] <jtgameover> yes
[10:17] <jasoncohen> sjmurdoch, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Ubuntu-calendar
[10:17] <hotte-> my problem: torsmo starts automatic but then my desktopwallpaper overwrite it
[10:17] <jtgameover> lo, eth0, sit0
[10:17] <jtgameover> "no wireless extensions" for all of them
[10:17] <hotte-> i dont see torsmo then
[10:17] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: In GNOME, System | Administration | Networking should let you set it up
[10:17] <IKnowNothingAbou> Or.... You could just ignore me.... I might figure it out on my own...
[10:17] <admin0> hmm
[10:17] <sinferno> im trying to install cdemu and i get make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop.
[10:17] <admin0> in that case, i have no idea :D
[10:17] <jasoncohen> cafuego, hmm, i didn't know you used Ubuntu.
[10:17] <admin0> mine eth1 shows wireless extension
[10:17] <admin0> and its a prism card
[10:18] <Hieronymus> ubotu: ubuntu-calendar is probably dead (no updates for a long time)
[10:18] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[10:18] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Try "iwconfig wlan0"
[10:18] <jtgameover> no such device
[10:18] <jtgameover> keep in mind that i "disabled" this in windows
[10:19] <jtgameover> i'm not sure if i have to go back into windows and "enable" it
[10:19] <Proteque> is there a ipphone for gtk supporting sip?
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> Ah, I see.  The way to create a new entry in ubuntu wiki is, type in the url that you want it to be at into your address bar, and when it can't find any page for that, it will allow you to create one
[10:19] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Disabling it in Windows shouldn't have any effect in Linux
[10:19] <jtgameover> hmmm ok
[10:19] <sjmurdoch> Is it PCMCIA?
[10:20] <jtgameover> WLAN miniPCI
[10:20] <jtgameover> not sure what that means...
[10:20] <jasoncohen> will the upgrade to breezy require some manual tuning of sound settings? isn't the default going to change from ESD to alsa with dmixer support?
[10:21] <qt2_> is there any way around having to sudo for pretty much... well... everything?
[10:21] <sjmurdoch> jasoncohen: Have a look in /var/log/dmesg and see if it has loaded a driver for it
[10:21] <qt2_> i'd like to be able to copy files without having to be root o.O;
[10:21] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: ^
[10:21] <jasoncohen> qt2_, what do you mean? you can copy files in /home and copy files to /home as a user
[10:22] <admin0> make the destination folder permission 777 and the source files having your read permissions ;)
[10:22] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, what?
[10:22] <jasoncohen> sjmurdoch, sorry- i haven't upgraded to breezy. i was asking about the upgrade procedure when breezy becomes stable
[10:22] <qt2_> jasoncohen, and outside of home?
[10:22] <sjmurdoch> jasoncohen: Sorry, that was for jtgameover
[10:22] <jasoncohen> qt2_, what folders are you working with?
[10:22] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Look in s joined #ubuntu
[10:22] <sjmurdoch> 21:21 -!- beyond [~beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br]  has quit [Remote closed the
[10:22] <jasoncohen> qt2_, yes /home/user is owned by your user. you can read/write there
[10:22] <sjmurdoch>           connection] 
[10:22] <sjmurdoch> Oops
[10:22] <sjmurdoch> 21:21 < qt2_> is there any way around having to sudo for pretty much... well... everything?
[10:23] <jasoncohen> if you want to write to any other directory you must be the administrator
[10:23] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Look in /var/log/dmesg and see if there is anything about your wireless card
[10:23] <jasoncohen> qt2_, what are you trying to do? if you need to be root for a while you can do sudo -s to get a root shell
[10:24] <admin0> thanks all.. my repos are all good now ..!
[10:24] <jtgameover> hmmm
[10:24] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, i don't think so
[10:26] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Do you know the type of card? It is possible there isn't a driver for Linux
[10:27] <Yuki> how do I install a plugin for konqueror/firefox that I download?
[10:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wheres a good place to get a knoppix recovery cd/.iso?
[10:27] <ilba7r> which is better as ftp server proftpd or wu-ftpd
[10:27] <jtgameover> umm it's a Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN miniPCI card, 802.11b/g
[10:27] <action09> Yuki  i install them with firefox nut not d/l them
[10:28] <hotte-> kann ich desktop icons irgendwo ausstellen?
[10:28] <Yuki> action09: can you giude me through how to do it?
[10:28] <action09> Yuki  i just click on .xpi on the website and it install it by itself
[10:29] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, t's a Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN miniPCI card, 802.11b/g
[10:29] <action09> Yuki  i never d/l one
[10:29] <Yuki> kk
[10:29] <action09> Yuki  try maybe to open it with firefox..
[10:30] <Yuki> action09: what's the unpackage command?
[10:30] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Could you run lspci
[10:30] <action09> hmm Yuki  to do what ? remove a package or a firefox plugin ?
[10:30] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: and look for "Network controller"
[10:30] <jtgameover> yeah
[10:31] <Yuki> no, I downloaded a flasg plugin for mozilla but it says I need to unpackage it and then run the installer
[10:31] <Yuki> *flash
[10:31] <hotte-> where i can disable desktop icons?
[10:31] <jtgameover> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[10:31] <cappaberra> are there any ops in here that can answer my question: how often should I rsync for the cd-images?
[10:31] <Hunch> Hello all
[10:31] <action09> Yuki whats the name ? is it .tar.gz  or zipped ?
[10:31] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: OK - it's a BCM4306, which I don't think has native drivers for Linux
[10:31] <jasoncohen> Yuki, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[10:31] <Mafi> I thanks anacron very much for having patience with me. thanks a lot!
[10:32] <Yuki> action09: it is a .tar.gz
[10:32] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: You will need to use ndiswrapper to get that working
[10:32] <jasoncohen> Yuki, sorry, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:32] <Mafi> I thank anacron very much for having patience with me. thanks a lot!
[10:32] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, that sucks. any workarounds besides Linuxant, which you have to pay for
[10:32] <jasoncohen> Yuki, it's in multiverse. it'll download the flash plugin and install it for you
[10:32] <Yuki> ah ok
[10:32] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: ndiswrapper is like Linuxant
[10:32] <Yuki> what about java plugins?
[10:33] <qt2_> heh, i've got a directory outside home i'd like to make accessible to non root users... i'm considering ti an... 'overflow' directory, for everything.
[10:33] <tlord> Looking for anyone running Ubuntu onApple hardware; is there a secret way to use the one-button mouse as a 3-button one? :) I *think* I've tried every combination (Apple key + mouse / cntrl key plus mouse / shift key + mouse ...)  I do have an optical mouse attached, so I can use center + right buttons, but it would be nice to be able to get the same functionality without it ...
[10:33] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Have a look here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[10:33] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: You will need to get the Windows driver for that card
[10:33] <action09> Yuki tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[10:33] <jtgameover> ok sweet
[10:33] <jtgameover> thanks sjmurdoch
[10:34] <Yuki> kk
[10:34] <jasoncohen> tlord, how do you make a one button mouse into a 3 button? you can make a 2 button into a 3 button by clicking both but there simply is no way to combine buttons when there's one button
[10:34] <ray_> what video player would you guys recomend?
[10:34] <jcoxon> tlord, have a look at pbbuttonsd
[10:34] <jasoncohen> Yuki, do you have hoary-extras enabled? if so you can just sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[10:35] <cbreathe> Does anyone know how to create a deb package?
[10:35] <action09> i get an error while trying to d/l  gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:35] <ilba7r> which is better as ftp server proftpd or wu-ftpd in term of security
[10:35] <jasoncohen> Yuki, if not you'll need to sudo apt-get install java-package and then download sun-j2re.bin and make-kpkg sun-j2re.bin
[10:35] <tlord> jasoncohen: there could be multiple combo buttons to press, such as "shift+ mouse button = middle click, control + mouse button = right click.
[10:35] <nalioths_dog> Yuki: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[10:35] <action09> Impossible de rcuprer http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente
[10:35] <action09> E: Impossible de rcuprer quelques archives, peut-tre devrez-vous lancer apt-get update ou essayer avec --fix-missing?
[10:35] <HaroldJohnson> Wow, that was fast, huh?
[10:35] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: See here for the driver http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki-1.4.6/index.php/List#D
[10:35] <jasoncohen> tlord, true, but that would require use of the keyboard so it would still only be a one button mouse. why not just use a regular optical mouse?
[10:36] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hehe
[10:36] <Yuki> how do I enable hoary-extras  then?
[10:36] <tlord> jasoncohen: on an iBook, would be nice to *not* need an external mouse.
[10:36] <action09> sorry for the flood
[10:36] <jcoxon> tlord, F12 is right click
[10:36] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: ndiswrapper is a but flakey, but it may work for you. It would be worthwhile (nicely) asking Dell for a Linux driver. The more people who do that, the more likely it is they will
[10:36] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I'm on another Mac while waiting for Ubuntu to boot.
[10:36] <nalioth> action09: follow the instructions
[10:36] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, oh right
[10:36] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, :)
[10:36] <jasoncohen> Yuki, ah, sorry- listen to nalioths_dog. it's make-jpkg - not make-kpkg (the latter is for compiling a kernel)
[10:36] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: howdy
[10:36] <action09> nalioth  i did with --fixmissing and it works..
[10:36] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, yeah i've run into some posts on the dell forums already
[10:37] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth Howdy, nalioth!
[10:37] <jcoxon> okay everyone got a question - how many people here are running on apple hardware? :)
[10:37] <tlord> Some distros have it set up so this is possible ... jcoxon Huh, thanks. My iBook is down at the moment, but i'll try that as soon as I replace the power supply I finally broke today.
[10:37] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I'm on Apple
[10:37] <Yuki> action09: how do I enable hoary-extras?
[10:37] <tlord> jcoxon: I *am* though I am currently stuck on this Windows laptop instead ;)
[10:37] <vladuz976> hi, i wanna buy a new video card. i have a Nvidia right now but ubuntu had lots of trouble with the resolution after installtion. nalioth helped me fix it and it works now.  can anyone recommend one that is recognized by the installer?
[10:37] <jcoxon> me of course - iBook g4 800mhz
[10:37] <nalioth> jcoxon: i have two ibooks
[10:38] <jasoncohen> Yuki, add deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list\
[10:38] <Yuki> nalioths_dog, which files are the right ones?
[10:38] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: my Radeon 9600 was detected and works just fine, however I had to bugger it into supporting fast 3D :)
[10:38] <tlord> Mine: G3 500MHz old white iBook
[10:38] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Should I have rebooted with the card inserted or not?
[10:38] <nalioth> Yuki: watch ubotu
[10:38] <jasoncohen> Yuki, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted". Then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:38] <nalioth> !backports
[10:38] <ubotu> I heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:38] <action09> Yuki don't have any idea of what you're talking sorry.. personnaly i'm just reffering myself on the http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and the whole guide is great
[10:38] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: but if you don't play games, its great straight out of the box :)
[10:38] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, up to you
[10:38] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Good deal.
[10:38] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, it might make a difference - its now a matter of trial or error
[10:38] <vladuz976> D[a] vey: cool, but i think i do want 3d hardware support
[10:38] <jasoncohen> Yuki, just follow my instructions if you want to just add hoary-extras
[10:39] <jcoxon> so everyone you reckon that ubuntu is really the os of choice on apple hardware :p
[10:39] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I'm seriously considering returning this card and purchasing one that, at a minumun, has OS X support.
[10:39] <cbreathe> vladuz976: I use a 6800GT, and getting genuine nVidia drivers for it was pretty easy.
[10:39] <jasoncohen> Yuki, you should probably also enable universe and multiverse. just uncomment all the lines that start with deb (remove the #)
[10:39] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you should always boot wiht the hardware you want to use installed
[10:39] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: Nvidia's binary drivers seemed just fine for me at work, I have a GeforceFX 5600, but I installed it after Ubuntu
[10:39] <nalioths_dog> action09: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:39] <HaroldJohnson> naliothThanks for the info
[10:39] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, hehe oh well
[10:39] <jasoncohen> Yuki, it should look like http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but without the hoary-backports line
[10:39] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: the nvidia drivers work flawlessly though
[10:40] <D[a] vey> even have it running one monitor on each of the DVI and VGA ports :)
[10:40] <vladuz976> D[a] vey: i thought u have a radeon?
[10:40] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Only because I'm not certain I'll be sticking with Ubuntu or not.
[10:40] <cbreathe> D[a] vey: That's been my experience, too.
[10:40] <nalioth> D[a] vey: not in all cases
[10:40] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: I have a Radeon at home, GeforceFX 5600 at work
[10:40] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, It depends on how I like using it.
[10:40] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, right - well just to say that it isn't usually this hard
[10:40] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: But I installed the GF *after* ubuntu, I don't know how its supported right out of the box
[10:40] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, considering your low specs there are a few things i recommend to improve speed
[10:40] <nalioth> jasoncohen: y'all are killin me
[10:40] <action09> nalioths_dog ok sorry i dunno
[10:40] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: but getting the binary drivers installed is just an apt-get call :)
[10:40] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, such as using fluxbox instead of gnome
[10:40] <jasoncohen> nalioth, can you send me a list of commands to get the automated responses from nalioths_dog
[10:41] <nalioth> jasoncohen: you are better off using ubotu
[10:41] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I'm using xfce4
[10:41] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, oh okay good
[10:41] <nalioth> jasoncohen: the dog only responds when i kick him
[10:41] <jasoncohen> does ubotu have answers for java/adding repos etc?
[10:41] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Are you using a wireless card?
[10:41] <jcoxon> not right now
[10:41] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, though i use to
[10:41] <jasoncohen> dpkg is great
[10:42] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i believe so
[10:42] <jasoncohen> #debian has a very large db for dpkg
[10:42] <nalioth> !repositories
[10:42] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:42] <vladuz976> D[a] vey: so you installed Nvidia after installing ubuntu. hmm, which one do you like better?
[10:42] <nalioth> !source
[10:42] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:42] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, i downloaded the driver off that page you linked me to, but it's a .exe....
[10:42] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, instead i have a custom built router out of an old computer running linux linking the wireless router to my hub
[10:42] <jtgameover> how do run that?
[10:42] <Hieronymus> !sources
[10:42] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, So what command(s) should I use to test this now?
[10:42] <cbreathe> Question: So far I've been using synaptic to get all my software, but I've found something I'd like to install by compiling. Is it easy to create a package after I've compiled something, or is it even necessary?
[10:42] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, first dmesg to see if anything is detected
[10:42] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, and then iwconfig
[10:42] <nalioth> jasoncohen: ubotu has many triggers, unfortunately i dont know how to make him regurgitate them
[10:43] <action09> !hoary-extras
[10:43] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, never mind. "unzip" worked fine :-)
[10:43] <ubotu> Wish i knew, action09
[10:43] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, How do I know if it is detected?  I've got this plugged into DSL, too...
[10:43] <GigaClon> !help
[10:43] <action09> !hoary extras
[10:43] <D[a] vey> vladuz976: well, my Radeon is the better card, and now I have it working right, I love it. Of course, I'm playing games at home (and only one monitor), whereas at work I don't do any 3D stuff and I have dual monitors
[10:43] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, try iwconfig
[10:43] <ubotu> action09: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:43] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, No wireless extensions"
[10:43] <nalioth> action09: they are at the backports page
[10:44] <jasoncohen> nalioth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto makes no sense. why add multiverse to the universe line? there's already a line for multiverse. all you have to do is uncomment all the deb lines
[10:44] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, try lsmod
[10:44] <tlord> jcoxon: I like Ubuntu on my iBook, that's all I know :)
[10:44] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, What should be there?
[10:44] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, is wlan of ath mentioned anywhere?
[10:44] <D[a] vey> Ubuntu is the first distro that actually made me want to move to LInux :)
[10:44] <jcoxon> or*
[10:44] <action09> nalioth ok thanks
[10:44] <GigaClon> !wantnick
[10:44] <cbreathe> D[a] vey: Me too. ^^
[10:44] <tlord> I miss a three-button (or 2-as-3 button) mouse, and I am very annoyed by not being able to put it to sleep ...
[10:44] <HaroldJohnson> 1 ath pci
[10:44] <bimberi> nalioth: You can browse ubotu's factoids at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <tlord> maybe that's been recently fixed, but not to my knowledge.
[10:44] <D[a] vey> I have tried SuSE 8.x, Redhat 7, Slackware, SuSE 9.x, Gentoo, Mandrake, all I hated
[10:44] <nalioth> jasoncohen: it works fine either way
[10:44] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, 1 ath pic
[10:44] <jcoxon> tlord, they have been known to sleep
[10:45] <D[a] vey> but Ubuntu... its lovely :)
[10:45] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Oops.  1 ath pci
[10:45] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, wlan?
[10:45] <div_by_zero> I was able to install Warty Warthog from a snail-mail CD.  Upon first boot it stops with:  module ext3: Unknown rela relocation: 247 \n modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ext3 (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-amd64-generic/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko): Invalid module format
[10:45] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, 2 ath_pci, ath_rate_once
[10:45] <Hunch> Can anyone tell me were/how to check my modem's init string? (I think it my modem's speed is being forced).
[10:45] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, do modprobe wlan
[10:45] <tlord> jcoxon: mine doesn't, but I'm happy to believe that an upgrade will eventually give me that :)
[10:45] <D[a] vey> div_by_zero: sounds like a bad CD :/
[10:45] <vladuz976>  /quit
[10:45] <Aerebus> Does anyone know if there is a place in Ubuntu i can adjust my video card settings? i've trie dnot to let it bother me but when i drag a window i see a tracer trail behind it...very annoying how can i get rid of this?
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Done
[10:46] <jasoncohen> nalioth, yeah, but isn't it easier to just show them a before and after picture of the file with the deb lines uncommented? users don't have to do anything other than remove #
[10:46] <nalioth> bimberi: are they updated in realtime?
[10:46] <jcoxon> tlord, i haven't tried recently - not going to yet
[10:46] <D[a] vey> my Hoary CDs were dispatched some 2 weeks ago, just waiting on them now
[10:46] <tlord> Also, I'm glad I have an old enough iBook that the airport is only "moderate" rather than "extreme" ;)
[10:46] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, check dmesg
[10:46] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: I am not sure, but I would guess you run it in Windows to extract the files
[10:46] <jasoncohen> and they can also do it in synaptic if they're really averse to the command line
[10:46] <bimberi> nalioth: dunno sorry - have to ask cafuego
[10:46] <Yuki> ah, me so confused x_x
[10:46] <jtgameover> sjmurdoch, no no all you have to do is "unzip"
[10:46] <jtgameover> lol
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Again, what do I look for here?
[10:46] <jasoncohen> Yuki, what's the problem?
[10:46] <nalioth> bimberi: cuz ubotu's been gettin an education lately
[10:46] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, anything to do with ath or wlan or anything really
[10:46] <jasoncohen> Yuki, do this- start synaptic ( system > administration > synaptic package manager
[10:46] <sjmurdoch> jtgameover: Ah cool
[10:47] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, It's a long list.
[10:47] <jasoncohen> Yuki, then go to preferences > repositories
[10:47] <div_by_zero> Actually, the first CD as was bad, hung copying "remaining packages to hard disk"  This was the second snail-mail CD.  I only ordered two.
[10:47] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, It says...
[10:47] <Hunch> Get good connection using Win2K, but slow connection using Ubuntu.
[10:47] <jasoncohen> Yuki, choose settings and make sure "show disabled software sources is checked
[10:47] <admin0> what are the best apps for:   cdrw, dvd viewing,
[10:47] <bimberi> nalioth: yes - Hieronymus was pretty active last night (my time (oz))
[10:47] <jasoncohen> Yuki, then enable all the disabled sources and hit OK
[10:47] <Yuki> (btw, I am using KDE, not GNOME)
[10:47] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, EXPERIMENTAL after wlan and ath_pci
[10:47] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Also...
[10:47] <jasoncohen> Yuki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:48] <jasoncohen> Yuki, synaptic is in the KDE menu too- in system i think- i can't remember at the moment
[10:48] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, ...ath%d; unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1
[10:48] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, thats our error
[10:48] <jasoncohen> Yuki, you can start a konsole window and type sudo synaptic
[10:48] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, That's the one we're having difficulty resolving?
[10:48] <jasoncohen> Yuki, see the icon of a terminal at the bottom of your screen near the menu
[10:49] <div_by_zero> What is odd, is that when first boots from the HD, it says: root (hd0,1) \n Filesystem type is extfs, partition type 0x83  When I formatted it as ext3 and thsi is what it shows as when I go back to reinstall.
[10:49] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, just give me a sec i'll see what i can find
[10:49] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Is it time for me to exchange this card?
[10:49] <Yuki> found it
[10:49] <Yuki> I found synaptic
[10:49] <jasoncohen> nalioth, is the picture in https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto from warty or hoary? gnome 2.10 from hoary should have a system menu
[10:49] <nalioth> Yuki: you have a big toybox, now
[10:50] <Yuki> yay! ^^
[10:50] <Hieronymus> ubotu: forget pizza
[10:50] <ubotu> i forgot pizza, Hieronymus
[10:50] <bimberi> nalioth: just tried it and yes - that ubotu page is updated in real time
[10:50] <nalioth> bimberi: yes i saw that
[10:50] <Hieronymus> !forget porn-get
[10:50] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot porn-get
[10:51] <Hieronymus> !forget vagina
[10:51] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot vagina
[10:51] <div_by_zero> What is odd, is that when first boots from the HD, it says: root (hd0,1) \n Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83    When I formatted it as ext3 and this is what it shows as when I go back to reinstall. (corrected a typo)
[10:51] <nalioth> !info pornview
[10:51] <ubotu> pornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 676 kB
[10:51] <Hieronymus> !forget mirc
[10:51] <ubotu> i forgot mirc, Hieronymus
[10:51] <Corpar> !info xchat
[10:51] <Belutz> nalioth: do u use KDE or gnome?
[10:51] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB
[10:51] <Yuki> jasoncohen, how do I tell which sources are disabled?
[10:52] <Corpar> !info mc
[10:52] <Hieronymus> !forget !!
[10:52] <ubotu> i forgot !!, Hieronymus
[10:52] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[10:52] <jasoncohen> Yuki, the ones unchecked are disabled
[10:52] <jasoncohen> Yuki, just make sure all sources are checked off and hit OK
[10:52] <Yuki> like, in the main part of the package manager?
[10:52] <jasoncohen> Yuki, but you have to enable "show disabled software sources" in settings
[10:52] <Hieronymus> !forget razor-x
[10:52] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot razor-x
[10:52] <Hieronymus> ubotu: your knowledge needs cleaning
[10:52] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:52] <Yuki> I did
[10:53] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, whats the card again
[10:53] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, DWL-G630
[10:53] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, D-Link
[10:53] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Rev.C
[10:53] <Yuki> jasoncohen, is this list of the cources in the first part of the package manager?
[10:53] <riddlebox> can someone tell me the aptsource that would give me mythtv?
[10:53] <Hieronymus> !forget razor-x he
[10:53] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot razor-x he
[10:53] <jcoxon> i'm asking on madwifi channel
[10:53] <eliUbuntu> with gcc you can use the command cc -lm "file" right?
[10:53] <Yuki> jasoncohen, wait nvm
[10:53] <Yuki> I found it
[10:54] <Hieronymus> !forget initrd
[10:54] <ubotu> i forgot initrd, Hieronymus
[10:54] <div_by_zero> So, is there a known problem with Warty and AMD64 where you format the partition as ext3 but it is incorrectly detected as ext2fs at boot-time?
[10:54] <Hieronymus> !forget 2.6.12.2
[10:54] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot 2.6.12.2
[10:54] <Hieronymus> !forget requency: they
[10:54] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'requency: they', Hieronymus
[10:54] <Hieronymus> !forget frequency: they
[10:54] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot frequency: they
[10:54] <Hieronymus> !forget guide
[10:54] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot guide
[10:55] <Hieronymus> !forget vagueness
[10:55] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot vagueness
[10:55] <jasoncohen> Yuki, once you enable all the repositories and hit OK, it'll update for you and you'll have about 16,000 available packages - up from 3,000 or so
[10:55] <QaDeS> grub doesn't find my initrd :o/
[10:55] <Yuki> jasoncohen, all packages are installed now
[10:55] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, i've asked the question it 'll look a bit weird if you ask it again
[10:55] <Hieronymus> !forget rox
[10:55] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot rox
[10:55] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, :)
[10:55] <Hieronymus> !rox is at http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
[10:55] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[10:55] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, LOL, I won't
[10:55] <riddlebox> can someone tell me what the multiverse source is?
[10:56] <Hieronymus> !multiverse
[10:56] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:56] <Hieronymus> !repositories
[10:56] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:56] <Yuki> jasoncohen, what's next?  or should I have everything?
[10:56] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, you can stay to see the answer :)
[10:56] <Hieronymus> !remove synd
[10:56] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:56] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I accidentally left
[10:56] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, :)
[10:56] <QaDeS> is there a way to create a proper vmlinuz and initrd in a chroot environment under another distri?
[10:56] <jasoncohen> Yuki, now, you'll probably want to add hoary-extras like i said...did you do that before?
[10:56] <Hieronymus> !forget cmd: lol (.*?)
[10:56] <ubotu> i forgot cmd: lol (.*?), Hieronymus
[10:57] <Hieronymus> !forget ubuntu-es
[10:57] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot ubuntu-es
[10:57] <Yuki> jasonchoen, yes, I did that on gedit before
[10:57] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Is anyone in there?
[10:57] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, there are 43 people
[10:57] <jcoxon> HaroldJohnson, it just might take some time
[10:57] <Yuki> jasoncohen, is there anything after adding hoary-extras?  I already did it
[10:58] <jasoncohen> Yuki, you basically have everything now
[10:58] <jasoncohen> except a few packages backported from breezy
[10:58] <jasoncohen> Yuki, now install stuff
[10:58] <Yuki> jasoncohen, does that mean I have the plugins now?
[10:58] <jasoncohen> Yuki, for multimedia you'll want libdvdcss2 (for DVDs), totem-xine, gstreamer-plugins, w32codecs (divx/xvid, quicktime, realplayer, windows media video)
[10:59] <jasoncohen> Yuki, no- that just updated the list so you can install from more sources
[10:59] <Yuki> jasoncohen, so how do I install packages?
[10:59] <jasoncohen> Yuki, well, search for a package in synaptic
[10:59] <nalioth> jasoncohen: marillat has libdvdcss2
[10:59] <jasoncohen> Yuki, click the package and choose mark for installation
[11:00] <jasoncohen> nalioth, as does hoary-extras
[11:00] <jasoncohen> nalioth, and marillat is crap on ubuntu
[11:00] <riddlebox> is anyone else running mythtv?
[11:00] <ed1t> i installed java but it doesnt really work, i cant see java pages like its supposed to be
[11:00] <ed1t> its all messed up
[11:00] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i know that, but one user was sent by crimsun to marillat, b/c it isnt on extras
[11:00] <Yuki> jasoncohen, after it is marked, does it install automatically?
[11:00] <recover> How do I put mysqld on autostart?
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats mythtv?
[11:01] <nalioth> Yuki: you have to hit the 'apply changes' button
[11:01] <jasoncohen> nalioth, well, that user shouldn't have used marillat
[11:01] <jasoncohen> because it is in extras
[11:01] <recover> mythtv is a warez release group (often illegal stuff)
[11:01] <jasoncohen> Yuki, no, you then hit apply when you're done
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh
[11:01] <jasoncohen> Yuki, you can choose many packages and then hit apply when you're done with all the packages you want to install
[11:01] <Raskall> hmm.. is there a way to find out what I have installed with the marillat-repo? hase some stuff that doesn't work that I think I have gotten from marillat
[11:02] <nalioth> jasoncohen: libdvdcss2 doesnt exist to my knowledge on ubuntu repos of any type
[11:02] <jasoncohen> Yuki, make sure to get w32codecs, totem-xine, libdvdcss2 and mplayer-386/586/686 (depending on your system)
[11:02] <ed1t> nalioth, java runtime does show the pages how it supposed to show on firefox....do u know why/
[11:02] <nalioth> ed1t: i'm sorry, i don't understand
[11:02] <poningru> whats the point of refferels in registration in ubuntu forums?
[11:03] <riddlebox> mythtv is software like tivo
[11:03] <jasoncohen> nalioth, it does- i just pasted the apt-cache show libdvdcss2 to you
[11:03] <jasoncohen> Package: libdvdcss2
[11:03] <jasoncohen> Version: 1.2.8-1~5.04ubp1
[11:03] <chillout> hi there, i am an absolutute ubuntu/linux noob (installed 2day) and could need some help on a)  mounting my ntfs windows partition b) getting my Wlan card running... anyone who could help me with that and make my first linux/ubuntu experience a bit less stressful?
[11:03] <recover> How do I put mysqld on autostart?
[11:03] <jasoncohen> mythtv is great
[11:03] <jasoncohen> if anyone has questions about mythtv go to mythtv.org or ask me
[11:04] <medgno> jasoncohen, what tv tuner card did you use?
[11:04] <jasoncohen> i have a whole system with a 1/2 TB of storage and two tuners dedicated to mythtv
[11:04] <Nard> ok i was going to get a plug in for Firefox and it tells me that i don't have the latest version
[11:04] <Nard> i do
[11:04] <Proteque> doesnt kphone supports alsa?
[11:04] <Nard> how can i fix this
[11:04] <ed1t> nalioth, like when i open java pages i see the websites missing some of the information
[11:04] <jasoncohen> medgno, hauppauge pvr-250 MCE and a hauppauge wintv (bttv) with btaudio
[11:04] <jasoncohen> the former is a hardware encoder- uses 0% cpu
[11:04] <jasoncohen> to record
[11:04] <Yuki> jasoncohen, it can't find any of the mplayer packages
[11:05] <medgno> did the pvr-250 need you to compile a kernel module for it?
[11:05] <jasoncohen> Yuki, it's in multiverse
[11:05] <jasoncohen> Yuki, search for mplayer in synaptic
[11:05] <ray_> where are the qt files on ubuntu?
[11:05] <nalioth> ed1t: i am not a big fan of java, and on my PPC, the browser plugin doesnt work anyway, so i'm kinda lost
[11:05] <recover> How do I use libcaca with mplayer? it's on the -vo help list but I can't use it
[11:05] <jasoncohen> medgno, i needed to download chris kennedy's ivtv driver
[11:05] <medgno> but it was easy to get it working?
[11:05] <Yuki> jasoncohen, still can't find
[11:05] <jasoncohen> there's a howto for ubuntu medgno
[11:05] <jasoncohen> Yuki, then you didn't add multiverse
[11:06] <jasoncohen> Yuki, go back to preferences > repositories and make sure you enabled every one (they all should be checked), then hit ok and then hit reload
[11:06] <jasoncohen> ok?
[11:06] <medgno> jasoncohen, thanks much! I was hunting for a tuner today, actually.
[11:06] <bimberi> chillout: For a) have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:06] <ed1t> nalioth, heres the screenshot, http://dipen.net/javaprob.png
[11:07] <Yuki> jasoncohen okay
[11:07] <ed1t> nalioth, see how those boxes are missing information
[11:07] <bimberi> chillout: and a starting point for b) is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:07] <jasoncohen> medgno, http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UbuntuInstallation
[11:07] <chillout> bimberi: ok, ill check that right away (i have read tons of resource already, but could get it done..)
[11:07] <jasoncohen> medgno, definitely get the pvr-250 MCE- amazing card
[11:07] <nalioths_dog> bimberi, who needs mounted windows partitions?
[11:08] <jasoncohen> i got it for $100 at a linux friendly store
[11:08] <nalioths_dog> chillout: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[11:08] <medgno> jasoncohen, thanks!
[11:08] <jogariga> i just try installing bootsplash on ubuntu but it gives me strange characters
[11:08] <nalioths_dog> bimberi, n/m
[11:08] <recover> How do I put mysqld on autostart?
[11:08] <Hieronymus> ubotu's knowledge has been cleaned :)
[11:08] <dbernar1> ok, this it the first time I am logged in here from work:)
[11:08] <bimberi> nalioths_dog: noted - thanks
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, Hello
[11:08] <Hieronymus> !goo'boy
[11:08] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[11:08] <chillout> nalioths_dog: ok, so no need to do anything else?
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> jcoxon, I was about to leave, and I noticed your message.
[11:08] <nalioth> chillout: that script will find and mount your partitions
[11:09] <jasoncohen> medgno, np
[11:09] <nalioth> chillout: it will mount NTFS as read-only
[11:09] <thierry> edlt : I have this problem too with flash
[11:09] <jasoncohen> medgno, checkout #mythtv-users
[11:09] <chillout> nalioth: i need r/w
[11:09] <Proteque> what device is the mic on normally?
[11:09] <poningru> chillout: thats quite experimental and is not reccomended
[11:09] <medgno> jasoncohen, I wasn't so much interested in using it as a PVR, just as a way to get a sub-$100 TV (for my dorm room)
[11:10] <nalioth> chillout: writing to NTFS may cause total NTFS partition loss
[11:10] <jasoncohen> medgno, oh, then sudo apt-get install tvtime
[11:10] <jasoncohen> and buy a cheapo bttv card
[11:10] <jasoncohen> a guy on #mythtv-users gave me one for free...i now have 3
[11:10] <medgno> very nice!
[11:10] <medgno> how can you tell if a card is bttv?
[11:10] <ed1t> does anybody know the package name for opera browser?
[11:10] <jasoncohen> tvtime is a very nice app for tv watching
[11:10] <jasoncohen> medgno, if it's under $40 :)
[11:10] <nalioth> chillout: what do you need?
[11:10] <dbernar1> editthere is none get opera from their website
[11:10] <jasoncohen> bttv are the cheap cards ...i purchased a leadtek wintv 2000 xp
[11:11] <ed1t> k
[11:11] <jasoncohen> for under $50 with remote & IR
[11:11] <medgno> and bttv has a v4l driver, right?
[11:11] <Phrostbyte> Does the current FLASH plugin for firefox not have AUDIO support?
[11:11] <nalioth> ed1t: are you giving the site time to load?
[11:11] <ed1t> yea
[11:11] <jogariga> has anyone added a splash image to ubuntu?
[11:12] <jasoncohen> Phrostbyte, it does
[11:12] <Phrostbyte> You can change the splash image - can you not? in the GUI?
[11:12] <ed1t> nalioth, its still open
[11:12] <dbernar1> he means a boot splash
[11:12] <Phrostbyte> I just went to homestarrunner.com and I have no AUDIO. (Flash site)
[11:12] <nalioth> ed1t: i'm sorry, idk what it's sposed to look like or be doing
[11:12] <jogariga> that's right dbernarl
[11:13] <dbernar1> Phrostbyte: something may need to be set up. did you look at the restricted formats wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[11:13] <ed1t> nalioth, those boxes should have data in it
[11:13] <Phrostbyte> Nope, I'll check the Wiki
[11:13] <Ilomoga> Which firewall do you recommend (for Ubuntu 5.04)?
[11:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: I got emms up
[11:13] <Razor-X> it's not the best thing in the world, but, I can go screen-less now ;)
[11:13] <Razor-X> Ilomoga: for ease-of-use, Firestarter
[11:13] <nalioth> ed1t: have no clue, sorry
[11:14] <Razor-X> though, if you want to slave around docs, there's no beating learning iptables
[11:14] <Yuki> jasoncohen,  still can't find
[11:14] <nalioth> Razor-X: cmms is a CLI sound thing, presumably?
[11:14] <jogariga> dbernarl: do you know how to add the boot splash?
[11:14] <Ilomoga> Razor-X: Good, I'm using it but didn't know if it's good or not, thx :)
[11:14] <dbernar1> no, I would have told you:)
[11:14] <nalioth> Razor-X: why slave, i have a link
[11:14] <dbernar1> k, gotta go for a bit.
[11:14] <Razor-X> nalioth: cmms == emacs multimedia system
[11:14] <Razor-X> *emms
[11:14] <nalioth> Razor-X: i shoulda known
[11:14] <Razor-X> heh, yeah
[11:14] <Razor-X> i've gone emacs whacky
[11:15] <Razor-X> I was losing my screen muscle-memory anywho
[11:17] <Razor-X> I changed my Eterm background too
[11:17] <Razor-X> made it darker
[11:17] <Razor-X> it's of Vash
[11:19] <chillout> nalioth: how do i execute this script actually?
[11:19] <Hieronymus> !hoary changes
[11:19] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Are you smoking crack?
[11:19] <Razor-X> Hieronymus: hah, not there yet
[11:19] <Razor-X> chillout: is it a shell script?
[11:20] <Hieronymus> Razor-X: did you add !razor-x? I removed it
[11:20] <nalioth> chillout: open a terminal where the script is and type "sudo -s" and then "sh <scriptname>"
[11:20] <Razor-X> Hieronymus: why?
[11:20] <Hieronymus> why not?
[11:20] <Razor-X> nalioth: do you know of m3u syntax, or where I can find out how to write custom ones?
[11:21] <nalioth> Razor-X: i can only say open one up and monkey-see monkey-do
[11:21] <Razor-X> Hieronymus: was there a reason to, or did you just feel like it?
[11:21] <Razor-X> nalioth: I have
[11:21] <Hieronymus> Where can I view an official list of changes between Hoary and Breezy
[11:21] <Hieronymus> !unforget razor-x
[11:21] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Successfully recovered 'razor-x'.  Have fun now.
[11:21] <nalioth> Razor-X: he's cleaning out all the crap that's been fed to ubotu
[11:21] <Hieronymus> !razor-x
[11:21] <ubotu> methinks razor-x is a nifty guy
[11:21] <Razor-X> they have #EXTINF:1464 sometimes, and othertimes 1465
[11:21] <Hieronymus> !forget razor-x
[11:21] <ubotu> i forgot razor-x, Hieronymus
[11:21] <Razor-X> nalioth: and how much space does ubotu have?
[11:21] <Razor-X> ;)
[11:22] <chris24tn> hi, all. can anyone direct me to some instructions to get dvd playback working?
[11:22] <chris24tn> fresh install, here
[11:22] <Hieronymus> Razor-X: if everybody adds these things, poor ubotu will have too much data
[11:22] <nalioth> Razor-X: i have no clue
[11:22] <Razor-X> here's a little quiz for you "I wanna clean ubotu out" people, how much space does he have?
[11:22] <LinuxNewbie> Anyone looking to help a newbie in need?
[11:22] <nalioths_dog> chris24tn: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:22] <nnacht> Hi, everyboy. I have a problem of soun card.
[11:23] <nalioth> chris24tn: the wiki is full of valuable info
[11:23] <Razor-X> ubotu has about 80 GB dedicated to text
[11:23] <ubotu> Razor-X: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:23] <LinuxNewbie> Is is larger than a cat?
[11:23] <nnacht> I have two sound cards in my systems, one is a onboard ac97, one is cmedia pci-card.
[11:23] <LinuxNewbie> Is it a cat in a breadbox?
[11:23] <Hieronymus> Razor-X: so we should sp am it?
[11:24] <nnacht> How can I make the pci-card the default card?
[11:24] <nalioth> nnacht: in the bios, turn off the onboard sound
[11:24] <nnacht> at the moment the onboard one is the default.
[11:24] <Razor-X> and therefore crimsun said we could add our names in ;)
[11:24] <Determinist> ummm , how do i change my sshd listening port?
[11:24] <Razor-X> simple azzat
[11:24] <nnacht> nalioth, yes, i turned off, but it was still recognised by ubuntu
[11:25] <Razor-X> ask tiglionabbit the same thing, we both talked to crimsun
[11:25] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:25] <Razor-X> there's no need of community cleanup ;)
[11:25] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Change "Port 22" to what you want
[11:26] <action09> nnacht  try first to diable your onboard soundcard in the bios.. (integrated peripherals audio ac97 -->disable)
[11:26] <Razor-X> if you don't believe me... ask crimsun yourselves
[11:26] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, every line in that file is commented out (has # infront of every line)
[11:26] <nnacht> action09: it does not work
[11:26] <nalioth> Razor-X: less spam in ubotu
[11:26] <nnacht> I am asking a software way to solve the problem.
[11:26] <Razor-X> nalioth: crimsun said names aren't included as spam
[11:27] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: In which case, uncomment the "# Port 22" and change the port number
[11:27] <Razor-X> so, a little recognition is in order for those helping
[11:27] <Razor-X> ;)
[11:27] <nalioth> Razor-X: imho, if its not helpful, it's spam
[11:27] <nalioth> Razor-X: nobody cares if you are nifty or not, it wont fix their system
[11:27] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, k , thanks
[11:27] <nalioth> yes, i am an a-hole
[11:28] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, now , how can i make sure sshd is on?
[11:28] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: do "ssh localhost"
[11:28] <nnacht> I think there must be a way to do with alsa. anyone know it?
[11:28] <sjmurdoch> or "ssh -p XX localhost" if you have changed the port number to something other than 22
[11:29] <action09> nnacht  is the module of your new sound card loaded ? (lsmod)
[11:29] <nalioth> nnacht: you are asking at the wrong time, there are folks in here who know your answer (but not right now)
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, what type of processor is k7 for?
[11:29] <nnacht> action09: yes, both cards (models) are loaded.
[11:29] <Determinist> k
[11:29] <ray_> anybody know where i can get the w32codecs?
[11:29] <sjmurdoch> nnacht: You could add the module for the soundcard you don't want to /etc/hotplug/blacklist IIRC
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> ray_: from backports
[11:29] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: amd athllon32
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[11:29] <ubotu> well, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[11:29] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: amd sempron32
[11:30] <ray_> tiglionabbit, how do i do that?
[11:30] <nnacht> sjmurdoch, ok, let me try.
[11:30] <action09> nnacht dunno, maybe there's a link to tell the system which soundcard to use.. maybe /dev/dsp  .. i dunno more sorry
[11:30] <nalioths_dog> ray_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:30] <sinferno> does anyone here have sim city 3000 ?
[11:30] <sinferno> i just got it working but when i change my resolution and restart it goes back to 600x800
[11:30] <Razor-X> sinferno: wrong place
[11:31] <nalioth> ray_: follow the dogs instructions using info from the URL, ubotu mentioned
[11:31] <Razor-X> no warez here
[11:31] <sinferno> im not asking for warez fool
[11:31] <Razor-X> ohhh, nevermind ;)
[11:31] <Razor-X> don't say "have" ;)
[11:31] <sinferno> sorry
[11:31] <sinferno> was just looking for someone that knows how to config it
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> ray_: read the backports website, add one of their mirrors to your sources.list, and then refresh synaptic and search for w32codecs
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[11:31] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> read that faq for info on adding the repository
[11:32] <tiglionabbit> oops, didn't notice nalioth's dog already said it
[11:32] <nnacht> action09: as I say in skype-preference, there are /dev/dsp, and /dev/dsp1
[11:32] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: we know your box of ! is overflowing, lol
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: hehe, I'm writing a wiki right now to cover all my !s so I can just do one in the future
[11:33] <sinferno> im kind of noob when something is in ~/.some/folder where is it really?
[11:33] <sinferno> or how do i get to it
[11:33] <sinferno> what would the path be
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: that means it's in your home directory, in a hidden folder
[11:34] <sinferno> ok thanks
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> ~ is for home, and when a file starts with . it is hidden
[11:34] <nnacht> action09: /dev/dsp is in use, but I want that /dev/dsp1 be used.
[11:34] <ray_> nalioth, thanks alot!
[11:34] <ray_> nalioth, it worked
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: if you start to type the name of it into nautilus, it will complete it for you and find the stuff in that hidden folder
[11:34] <phenomeno> oke i'm back for more information about the ati drivers , anyone wants to listen to me?
[11:35] <ray_> ill listen
[11:35] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, ok , seems like i didnt have sshd installed , how can i make it active and listening once it's installed?
[11:35] <action09> nnacht  i dunno more sorry :( maybe in the chan :(
[11:35] <Proteque> anyone used kphone? I am using with a sip accound. Cant get my mic working. the mic worked in the system (tested with rec).
[11:35] <phenomeno> oke thank you ray_
[11:35] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: you mean like this page? http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:35] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, whenever i run nautilus it just opens my home folder
[11:36] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Once if you have it installed, it should start on boot. If you want to start it now, run "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[11:36] <nalioth> phenomeno: we listen all day long
[11:36] <phenomeno> i want to know if there is a way to find out if your pc is ready te play games?
[11:36] <TokenBad> is there a way to free cached memory without rebooting?
[11:36] <nalioth> Determinist: once you install it, it goes active
[11:36] <ray_> phenomeno, whats the deal?
[11:37] <phenomeno> i want to know if there is a way to find out if your pc is ready te play games?
[11:37] <nalioth> phenomeno: install one?
[11:37] <phenomeno> cause i'm not sure if the drivers are installed right
[11:37] <nalioth> phenomeno: there are plenty of games available for ubuntu
[11:37] <medgno> tuxracer should be a small download, and should be in the repositories
[11:37] <nnacht> How can I list all modules which are loaded?
[11:37] <ray_> phenomeno, run glxgears from the terminal
[11:38] <ray_> then maximize it
[11:38] <Determinist> root@metalport:/ # ssh -p 443 localhost
[11:38] <Determinist> ssh: connect to host localhost port 443: Connection refused
[11:38] <Determinist> wouldnt connect
[11:38] <misfit_toy> jeez, transcode isn't installable? what freaking repo do I need for it? I've hunted all over the place.
[11:38] <Proteque> have been trying gnomemeeting but looks like it needs gnome to work.
[11:38] <nalioth> misfit_toy: you need to learn a few tricks
[11:39] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Run "ps aux | grep -i sshd"
[11:39] <misfit_toy> nalioth, coming from FC so yeah, I do
[11:39] <phenomeno> ray_,  37.667 FPS<= thats not good i suppose?
[11:39] <sjmurdoch> phenomeno: Try "glxinfo | grep -i vendor"
[11:39] <Determinist> root     17461  0.0  0.2   3472  1508 ?        Ss   00:35   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:39] <Determinist> root     17819  0.0  0.1   3040   732 pts/0    D+   00:39   0:00 grep -i sshd
[11:39] <nalioth> misfit_toy: join ##apple
[11:40] <ray_> phenomeno, how did you install the drivers?
[11:40] <sjmurdoch> phenomeno: If you get Mesa, that probably means that you are not using acceleration
[11:40] <phenomeno> i have get the mesa
[11:40] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: So SSHd is running
[11:40] <Determinist> erm , gonna try regular port then
[11:40] <phenomeno> someone here gave me a link to ubuntuforums
[11:40] <phenomeno> elibuntu are something like that
[11:41] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, still , connection refused
[11:41] <ray_> phenomeno, what did you try to install the drivers/
[11:41] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Try sudo lsof -i  | grep -i sshd
[11:42] <Sir-Tez> can anyone tell me how to setup NAT on a second eth?
[11:42] <phenomeno> i downloaded the ati drivers (the installer)
[11:42] <Sir-Tez> for internet sharing
[11:42] <ray_> phenomeno, i have you solution
[11:42] <arentie> So...make-jpkg will convert virutually any bin file and convert it to a deb file?
[11:42] <phenomeno> i installed them and than i changed some things in xorg.conf
[11:42] <Determinist> sshd      17461     root    3u  IPv6  45406       TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
[11:42] <medgno> arentie, no, it'll only convert .bin files that are java installers (AFAIK)
[11:42] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: It is listening on port 22
[11:43] <phenomeno> oke I listen
[11:43] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, umm , ok
[11:43] <sjmurdoch> Check that the config file hasn't been overwritten
[11:43] <arentie> medgno, what do you mean by "AFAIK"?
[11:43] <sjmurdoch> And have you restarted sshd after you changed it
[11:43] <phenomeno> (i followed this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=ati+drivers)
[11:44] <medgno> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
[11:44] <action09> arentie as far a i know
[11:44] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, i've edited that file to say port 22 and restarted sshd , still no go mate
[11:44] <ray_> phenomeno, dont use those drivers..... apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ....then the only thing you change in xorg.conf is switch the "ati" to "fglrx"
[11:44] <dbernar1> arentie: your question has a yes answer, it will be a deb.
[11:44] <ray_> phenomeno, it works great for me
[11:44] <arentie> medgno, how do I know what bin files are java installers?
[11:44] <phenomeno> will i have acceleration then?
[11:44] <ray_> phenomeno, u shure will
[11:44] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Are you runnign "ssh localhost"?
[11:45] <phenomeno> how do i remove the drivers that i have installed now?
[11:45] <dbernar1> arentie: there will be only one, the one you donwload from their site
[11:45] <ray_> phenomeno, i do
[11:45] <medgno> arentie, my guess is they check MD5s or filenames or something like that
[11:45] <phenomeno> or wil that just overwrite them ?
[11:45] <arentie> ok thanks
[11:45] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, that file you told me to edit was the client config :)
[11:45] <nalioth> arentie: what is your question?
[11:45] <sweet-tea> please help
[11:45] <ray_> u should be fine just to leave them
[11:45] <phenomeno> oke
[11:46] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, commented out the port line and it works , cept on port 22 , while i need it to work on port 443
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, tell me what you think of this wiki page I just made
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> !newbies
[11:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, newbies is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/newbies
[11:46] <sweet-tea> just installed ubuntu on an XP laptop and hit the grub problem unbootable
[11:46] <phenomeno> I just type sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx adb change ati to fglrx?
[11:46] <arentie> nalioth, my question was can I convert virutally any bin file to a deb file by using make-jpkg?
[11:46] <don-o> im trying a dist-upgrade from hoary to breeze but the last 10 or so packages give "MD5Sum mismatch". Im using http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu as the source. is this a known problem?
[11:46] <dbernar1> sweet-tea: did you install grub to the MBR?
[11:46] <ray_> phenomeno, yup
[11:46] <phenomeno> oke thank you very much
[11:46] <dbernar1> don-o: yes, remove the us.
[11:46] <medgno> don-o, yes, get rid of the "us"
[11:46] <ray_> phenomeno, did you change anything else in xorg?
[11:47] <nalioth> arentie: make-jpkg is for java, i believe
[11:47] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is the server configfile
[11:47] <don-o> dbernar1: remove the us for all deb and deb-src lines in apt/sources?
[11:47] <sweet-tea> yes mbr
[11:47] <phenomeno> how do you mean? ray_ ?
[11:47] <dbernar1> don-o: sure
[11:47] <don-o> dbernar1: okay thanks
[11:47] <dbernar1> and now nothing is bootable?
[11:47] <dbernar1> welcome.
[11:47] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, doesnt say that in the file itself mate , are you sure? it specifically says ssh client config file
[11:47] <sweet-tea> right
[11:47] <ray_> phenomeno, u said you changed some things in xorg.conf
[11:48] <sjmurdoch> D/etc/ssh/ssh_config is the client one
[11:48] <phenomeno> i changed every thing that they sais here  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=ati+drivers
[11:48] <nalioths_dog> don-o, the repos are wonky, use these
[11:48] <nalioths_dog> don-o: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:48] <phenomeno> but not everything somethings were already good
[11:48] <nalioths_dog> don-o: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:48] <arentie> ok thanks nalioth
[11:48] <Determinist> # This is the ssh client system-wide configuration file.  See
[11:48] <Determinist> # ssh_config(5) for more information.  This file provides defaults for
[11:48] <Determinist> # users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration files
[11:48] <Determinist> # or on the command line.
[11:48] <Determinist> sorry for flooding :/
[11:48] <dbernar1> sweet-tea: well, try installing grub again.
[11:48] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: My Ubuntu box is down at the moment, but that is the case on my Debian box
[11:49] <dbernar1> You can <escape> from any point in the ubuntu installer, and skip to a step.
[11:49] <ray_> phenomeno, have u tried to apt that yet\
[11:49] <dbernar1> <escape being hitting the escape button.
[11:49] <phenomeno> I just did
[11:49] <disasm> heya all, I haven't bought hardware in a long time. Anyone have some recommendations on a good quality motherboard that plays well with linux? It looks like I'm selling a client my old computer
[11:49] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: So I can't be sure, but I would be surprised if that changed
[11:49] <don-o> nalioths_dog: thx for the info
[11:49] <nalioth> disasm: the motherboard that has the imac G4 attached to it
[11:50] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, *shrug* i guess it's not then. thanks mate :D
[11:50] <ray_> phenomeno, u need to reboot for it to work
[11:50] <phenomeno> oke
[11:50] <phenomeno> brb :)
[11:50] <disasm> nalioth: never gone ppc before, thats an idea, maybe I'll give it a shot this time around
[11:51] <disasm> nalioth: not like i need x86 for windows, I haven't had windows on my current desktop in 2 years
[11:51] <jaco^> mmm totem don't' work
[11:51] <jaco^> it says: resource busy
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> jaco^: describe what that means
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> oh
[11:51] <jaco^> why?
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> jaco^: that probably means something else has your sound focus
[11:51] <jaco^> mplayer works
[11:51] <jaco^> xine works
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> jaco^: try closing mplayer, then run totem
[11:51] <jaco^> sound is off
[11:52] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Is there a "Port 22" line in "/etc/ssh/sshd_config"?
[11:52] <jaco^> mplayer and xine r closed
[11:52] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, there is
[11:52] <ray_> does anybody know how i can get xine to play in firefox
[11:52] <nalioth> disasm: www.apple.com/store (red tag at bottom right) occasionally has G4 imac refurbs pretty cheap (with full factory warranty)
[11:52] <ray_> phenomeno, any luck
[11:52] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: What is the first line of the file?
[11:52] <jaco^> ray_ there is a mplayer plugin for firefox
[11:53] <phenomeno> a litle
[11:53] <Determinist> #	$OpenBSD: ssh_config,v 1.19 2003/08/13 08:46:31 markus Exp $
[11:53] <phenomeno> first i got 900 fps
[11:53] <arentie> I can safely say that I won't need Windows anymore!
[11:53] <ray_> jaco^, how do i do that?
[11:53] <phenomeno> but thatn it went down to 160 fps
[11:54] <jaco^> ray, use synaptyk
[11:54] <jaco^> ray, use synaptic
[11:54] <jaco^> look for mlayer
[11:54] <jaco^> and there is an mplayer plugin for firefox
[11:54] <nalioth> disasm: and if ya got a spare display, kb, and mouse around, the mac mini is a really sweet box
[11:54] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: That says ssh_config, so I would guess that for some reason it has been copied to sshd_config
[11:54] <ray_> phenomeno, i think you will be fine
[11:54] <jaco^> Determinist :) Lol
[11:54] <phenomeno> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/462
[11:54] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, i'll try there , brb
[11:55] <phenomeno> oke thank you :)
[11:55] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: sshd_config should start with something like "# Package generated configuration file"
[11:55] <sjmurdoch> or "#OpenBSD: sshd_config"
[11:56] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, bingo
[11:56] <jaco^> i think totem don't work 'cause the preview of the video
[11:56] <phenomeno> where can i downlaod tux racer?
[11:56] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, it works , thanks alot mate :D
[11:56] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: What was it?
[11:56] <ray_> phenomeno, apt-get install tuxracer
[11:56] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, sshd_config ... i should have noticed that
[11:56] <sjmurdoch> Ah right, glad its sorted
[11:57] <phenomeno> oke thank you ( its all so easy when you think a litle)
[11:57] <Epix> Has anyone used Fruity Loops for windows? Im looking for something like it for linux (and for free :))
[11:57] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, again, thanks alot :)
[11:57] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: np
[11:57] <ray_> Epix, yeah me tooo
[11:57] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, mind checking if you can connect to detersub.homedns.org:443 via ssh?
[11:58] <jaco^> what's fruit loops?
[11:58] <laas> hi
[11:58] <medgno> jaco^, a tracker/audio editing program, it looks like
[11:58] <dbernar1> guys, when you are looking for a program, add all possible repositories to your sources.list, and then synaptic has a search option.
[11:58] <jaco^> ah
[11:58] <jaco^> Beast
[11:59] <jaco^> audacity
[11:59] <sjmurdoch> Determinist: Yes
[11:59] <laas> how can i access my windows hdds from ubuntu ?
[11:59] <sjmurdoch> sjm217@maxwell:~$ ssh -p 443 detersub.homedns.org
[11:59] <sjmurdoch> Password:
[11:59] <Determinist> sjmurdoch, cool , thanks
[11:59] <dbernar1> laas :
[11:59] <Epix> jaco^, it is mainly for doing synths
[11:59] <dbernar1> !mountwindows
[11:59] <Determinist> laas, you mount them
[11:59] <ubotu> mountwindows is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:00] <laas> thnx