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nikkiaztonzy: i was suggesting ALL blender users are weird....12:05
ztonzyand he asked for some spanish users...but it is only english in that channel 12:05
ztonzynikkia, you werent there so how could you possible know what happened ?12:06
ztonzynikkia, tell that to creators...  ;)12:06
=== unome just found out his system is compromised :(
nikkiaztonzy: i'm sure they hear it all the time, along with 'make an interface that makes sense!' :)12:07
ztonzyapokryphos, and I did a whois...turns out he was in #gay #bisexuales too ;)12:07
ztonzynikkia, learn alien languge!12:07
apokryphoshhahaha12:07
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ztonzynikkia, bad excuse would I say12:07
apokryphoshmm, no-one else in there. Darn.12:07
ztonzyapokryphos, haha12:07
apokryphosztonzy: how's your blender stuff going? Wouldn't have seen any in ages :P12:08
ztonzyapokryphos, mine? it is quite quiet :P12:08
apokryphosoh :-O12:08
apokryphosztonzy: how about that character of yours?12:09
ztonzyapokryphos, but development are now progressing fast...especially in animationpart12:09
apokryphosnice12:09
ztonzyapokryphos, character is finished...just need to rig it...which is not easy task always12:09
fromozeI'm spaniard12:09
ztonzyhttp://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43975  my work :)12:10
apokryphosI can count to ten in Spanish :P. Impressive, I know.12:10
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ztonzyfromoze, nice12:10
ztonzyapokryphos, I think I have shown you it before12:10
apokryphosztonzy: wow, he's progressed a lot12:10
fromozeXD12:10
ztonzyapokryphos, ah...maybe I didnt show you...12:10
fromozeI must know how to do it in greek... but I don't remember...12:10
apokryphosztonzy: I saw him when he was just a model: blue12:11
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ztonzyapokryphos, yes, didnt like the blue/Captain america look...wanted a own colortheme12:11
apokryphosfromoze: ena, dio, tria, tesera... 8)12:11
fromozefor you is easy XD12:11
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apokryphosztonzy: He looks more slick like that, but not as happy ;-)12:12
ztonzyapokryphos, main blender coder have just recoded bone animation system to be way faster now12:12
fromozeapropos, someone creates the #kubuntu-es channel... but we're only two habitants for the moment :/12:12
apokryphos#ubuntu-es is more popular, isn't it?12:12
apokryphosYeah, so I see.12:12
fromozeyes12:13
ztonzyand someone has logbots in those channels12:13
_mikeuhm in the main account im on my speakers work. but when my dad logs into his account it cant dectect his device.12:13
ztonzybut not in #kubuntu12:13
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mcquaiddoes anyone know how to enable 'automatically select filename extension' in the kde save dialog box?12:14
mcquaidit's greyed out12:14
apokryphos#kubuntu gets logged though12:14
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apokryphoshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/12:14
_mikeanyone know how to solve my problem12:14
ztonzyapokryphos, ok12:14
FraeonYour dad doesn't need sound anyway. :>12:14
apokryphosah yes... ubuntulog is in here12:15
apokryphoswe should get ubotu in here too, I'm going to suggest that12:15
_mikeyea he does. he needs it cuz hes a musician and uploads and downloads sound trakcs and stuff12:15
ztonzyapokryphos, thanks that you liked the finished model :o)12:16
FraeonI'm out on a limb here, but I think it's that the rights for the devices aren't set up properly12:16
Heartwhen i add an user with kuser... can this user use aptitude and such things (where sudo is neccesary)?12:16
apokryphosztonzy: very flash indeed, yup. ;-)12:16
ztonzyheeh12:16
ztonzyapokryphos, feel free to download it...12:16
apokryphosHeart: if you allow them to, yes. On the process of doing that check the Kubuntu guide12:16
FraeonWhat's the default path for the sound device anyway?12:16
apokryphosztonzy: I helped myself already :P12:17
ztonzyapokryphos, as long as my name and all is still there ;)12:17
apokryphos'course12:17
Heartapokryphos: do you have a url for me please?12:17
FraeonGreat, the guy leaves.12:17
fromozemust I notice the conflits between xorg-common and x-common? must I create a bug? 12:17
apokryphosHeart: it's in /topic12:17
apokryphosHeart: precise part: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#sudomore12:18
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FraeonAnyhow, that's what I'm guessing.12:19
apokryphosfromoze: Nah... breezy isn't in use for the "public" at all, yet. 12:19
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fromozeI think so12:19
fromozewoops12:20
FraeonSo, when is Potty Porcupine going to be released?12:20
apokryphosOfficial is in October sometime12:20
FraeonSince we have Warty Warthog and Hoary Hedgehog. :p12:20
gdhOctober :)12:20
apokryphosthey're going to recommend beta use soon though12:20
gdhBreezy Badger :)12:20
FraeonI'm still at a loss why the homepna support is so poorly arranged in all the newer distros. It's not fun trudging through text files to get it to work.12:22
fromozeAnd I'm going to leave my computer alone for many time soon :) I must try a little breezy before XD12:22
Heart_ apokryphos: in the visudo-file there is no line for this user but this user can do "sudo <commands>" !? 12:22
FraeonAnd every distro with kernel 2.4 has the support so that makes it even more puzzling12:22
apokryphosHeart_: if there's no line for them, creat eone12:23
apokryphos*create one12:24
Heart_hm, this user shouldn't be able to do sudo commands12:24
apokryphosThen don't let them :)12:24
Heart_;) how?12:25
apokryphosHeart_: by default they won't have sudo access12:26
FraeonI guess nobody is able to answer that. :>12:26
Heart_hm as i said, i created an user with kUser and this user can do sudo commands... (no line in visudo file for this user)12:26
apokryphosoh, sorry, misread it. 12:27
apokryphosNot sure why it's doing that. That's actually a bug, if it does12:28
mcquaidapokryphos, i compiled this kde applet with prefix usr and it works fine, but i noticed on the site it said this was recommended for deb users:12:29
mcquaid./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/kde3/12:29
mcquaiddo i need to add the lib dir as well?12:29
apokryphosmcquaid: there's no harm in it, but I don't think you have to12:30
apokryphossince you've already specified the $KDEDIRS there12:30
mcquaidok12:30
apokryphosHeart_: I've always used useradd...12:31
Heart_in console12:31
apokryphosyup12:31
apokryphosHeart_: hm, I just added a new user with kuser and it hasn't given them sudo powers...12:32
Heart_you logged in with this new user and tested it?12:32
apokryphosHeart_: nope, just through konsole; I don't logging into KDE would change it..12:33
Heart_k thx... hmmm strange thing12:34
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Heart_hm, tested it again with "ctrl+alt+F2" > logged in as this user > done "sudo aptitude" for example and it works :(12:41
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reubenwhere should java be installed?12:44
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apokryphosHeart_: what if you make a new user, then in ksonole: su - {newuser}.. .and then try a sudo command? (without having logged in with them)?12:46
apokryphosreuben: to the executable? /usr/bin/java of course12:46
apokryphosreuben: best way to have installed java is probably: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre12:51
Heart_apokryphos: works too12:51
apokryphosHeart_: and this is with useradd? Odd. Definitely doesn't do it for me...12:52
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Heart_k, took the user I've made with kuser12:52
apokryphosHeart_: try su to them in konsole before physically logging into KDE12:53
apokryphosmake sure you do su - {newuser}  (with the "-" )12:55
Heart_yes12:55
=== nikkia is tempted to suspect something wrong with Heart_'s sudoers file
nikkiaie, its letting *everyone* sudo12:56
Heart_shall i post /etc/sudoers file?12:56
nikkiaahhhh, wait12:56
nikkiaHeart_: can you paste the results of 'id' as that user?12:57
Heart_?12:57
nikkiaHeart_: su to the new user, and type 'id'12:57
=== nikkia will wager that the new user is a member of group 109 :)
Heart_oh yes, it is12:58
Heart_then it's clear12:58
Heart_thx nikkia12:58
nikkianp12:58
nikkiai discovered a rather amusing exploit in KDE earlier01:00
apokryphosnikkia: shoot =)01:01
reubenwhich is01:01
nikkiai ssh -X'ed to my desktop, from my laptop, and ran kcontrol, to change my desktop sharing properties, cos i normally leave it turned off...01:01
nikkiaafter running kcontrol, somehow, KDE was redirecting all popups to my ssh -X'ed connection, so i could vnc to the desktop, and get the 'allow remote user?' dialog on the laptop's screen01:02
apokryphos:-S01:02
nikkiai think it was because when i ran kcontrol over the ssh, it didn't see a valid KDE running against that screen, so did the kbuildsyscoca stuff that normally happens if you run a KDE app outside KDE01:03
nikkiaactually, i've just realised what was happening, ignore me :)01:04
nikkiait WAS trying to connect to vnc on my desktop, but it was a fake desktop for :10.0 that it was trying to connect to01:04
nikkiaso there wasn't really anything exploitable - i couldn't have regained control over a konsole left su'ed for example01:05
nikkiaerk01:23
nikkiaslashdot just stopped accepting http connections01:23
nikkiaoops, no, my router died :P01:23
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Beastjust installed kubuntu - was previously a mandrake 9.1 .... 10.1 user02:04
Beastvery impressed with kubuntu02:05
bogaBeast: I was unimpressed by the fonts though!02:07
bogaand kynaptic!02:07
Mezkynaptic is the downfall for me :d02:10
Mezbut it's being fixed for breezy 02:10
Mez*dances and installs synaptic for now802:10
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Heart_Mez: fixed != replaced!?02:15
Mezyeah02:15
Mezkynaptic = kaboom in breezy02:15
Heart_kaboom?!02:16
Mezbeing replaced by something else02:17
Heart_k02:17
bogasomething being done about the fonts too?02:18
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BeastMez - whats wrong with kynaptic02:22
Beastonly problem i find is with trying to build other apps02:22
MezIt's not got the functionality most people desire02:22
aseigoe.g. search =)02:23
Mezit has search, just hard to find it in kynaptic (ctrl f IIFC)02:23
Mezs/IIFC/IIRC/02:23
BeastEdit->Find ?????02:23
gdhthe Windows Update-styled 'update manager' for GNOME is very pleasant 02:23
gdhI think a K-ified version is destined for Breezy.02:24
aseigowell, that lets you search by name only ... i'm used to being able to search descriptions and whatnot02:24
aseigooh wait, it has that to now02:25
aseigojesus. i need to check this out more often 02:25
gdh:)02:25
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supernixCan you tell what is causing Kmail to exit signal 1102:26
supernixi just wondered if there was a log I could see that was causing it ?02:27
Beastanybody upgraded to kde 3.4.1 ?02:27
supernixI have Beast 02:27
Beastwould like to get kopete working again02:27
supernixDid it this morning or somewhere like that 02:27
supernixI still can't login to MSN don't know if it is me or it02:28
Beastwhat version of kopete ?02:28
supernixI think it is .10.202:28
Beastmmn - thought it was fixed02:28
supernixthey said it was02:28
supernixbut like I said it might still be me02:28
Beasthow did u upgrade - i added the following to /etc/apt/sources.list ...02:29
Beastdeb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main02:29
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Beastthen ran update all packages from kynaptic02:29
supernixI forgot who it was but someone told me a series of commands to run that would update it 02:30
Beastok, no worriesa02:30
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apokryphosjoin #kopete02:49
apokryphoswhoop02:49
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_shawnhi02:51
_shawnI just upgraded amarok to CVS and it won't play streams with xine, any ideas?02:52
_shawn*SVN02:52
apokryphos_shawn: it didn't compile with xine plugin02:52
apokryphosyou need to have the xine and xine-devel packages02:52
_shawnyes it did02:52
_shawnI said it won't play stream it will play mp3s02:53
apokryphosAlright, I see.02:53
apokryphos_shawn: though that is more of an #amarok issue, I'd imagine -- you'd get more luck in there02:54
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_shawnk02:55
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penguinboyevening Geeks, Nerds, and Linux Gods03:15
supernixPLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ someone help me I will bbl03:16
reubenhey penguinboy03:16
reubenwhats up supernix03:16
penguinboyhey Reuben!!!03:16
penguinboywhats the prob supernix 03:16
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penguinboyWelcome CavalierBob !!!03:18
CavalierBobThanks for the welcome!03:19
penguinboyanyone installed Sunbird yet?03:23
reubenhi cavalierbob03:23
CavalierBobHey reuben! :)03:24
reubenMy desktop is currently live on http://reuben.myscreen.org/ feel free to check it out03:25
reuben^^ was just testing something03:25
gdhwow, reuben on #blackdicks03:26
reubenlol03:26
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reubeni thought i'd hidden the adult content:P03:27
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penguinboykewl03:27
penguinboyi sit best to download GTK2-XFT or GTK1????03:30
penguinboyis it03:30
crimsungtk2 may be more agreeable to you thematically03:31
penguinboygracios03:31
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dstambouare there any unofficial specialised kubuntu builds?03:32
dstambouor official for that matter :)03:32
crimsunspecialised in what way?03:32
dstambouoptimised for certain arch?03:32
crimsunI'm using the 5.04.3 live cd, which is pretty specialised03:32
crimsunnot that I know of03:33
dstambouI'd like to try the install cd03:33
crimsunthen try the install cd, then install linux-68603:33
dstambouah03:34
dstambouoh and, I take ubuntu uses udev file management?03:34
crimsunyes03:34
dstambouhow, for example, does it handle a usb mass storage device?03:34
dstambouin a graphical way?03:34
crimsunwell, you're asking two different questions03:34
dstamboudo I have to modprobe/mount/etc03:34
crimsunKubuntu does use udev to manage devices, along with hotplug.03:34
dstambouor when I plug it in, will it pop up? :)03:34
crimsunif you plug in a USB thumb drive, for instance, it will appear on your KDE desktop automatically.03:35
dstambouyes, the udev question was not meant to be related, by the way :)03:35
dstambougoodo03:35
dstambou5.04 latest? Any workable devel builds?03:35
crimsunnot of Kubuntu but of Ubuntu, yes03:36
dstambouI'm looking for a kde environment :)03:36
crimsun5.10 (Breezy) is the development branch currently03:36
crimsunyou can install kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, which will give you Kubuntu03:36
dstamboupros and cons of doing so?03:37
dstambouhow will it differ from a kubuntu build?03:37
dstambouif at all03:37
crimsunit will have GNOME packages, too, which will differ from a default Kubuntu install03:37
dstambouthese can be removed at installation or after? 03:37
crimsunonly after, and it's somewhat of a pain03:38
dstambouah03:38
dstambouhow so?03:38
crimsunthere's no easy way to remove all the GNOME packages in one command03:38
crimsunan alternative is to install Hoary then dist-upgrade to Breezy03:38
dstambouhoary kubuntu?03:39
crimsunyou need a fast Internet connection and much patience, though03:39
crimsunKubuntu Hoary, yes03:39
dstamboummm03:39
crimsunBreezy is the development branch, after all. Things are broken and are expected to continue to be broken.03:39
crimsunThere is no support for the development branch.03:40
dstambouI've run ~x86 development gentoo for a few years now, so I should be able to cope, hopefully :)03:40
crimsunsimilar idea but different beast03:40
dstambouand ubuntu package management is another repository on top of apt? Can I install deb packages?03:41
crimsunUbuntu packages are in repositories, which is the identical concept driving Debian.03:42
crimsunYou can easily install Ubuntu packages from Ubuntu repositories.03:42
dstambouah, they have to be specifically Ubuntu branded?03:42
dstambouie. like rpms mandrake/redhat03:42
crimsunInstalling Debian packages from non-Ubuntu repositories is neither supported nor recommended due to differing build dependencies and compiler versions used, etc. It is, however, possible to carefully mix Ubuntu and non-Ubuntu debs.03:43
dstamboumm03:44
dstamboufurther to that, is there a way to integrate packages built from source into my own apt tree? (not sure on the terminology - never used apt package management)03:45
gdhI see some 'advice' on the forums which advise people to get package X working then need packages A B and C from Debian, one of which is libc6...03:45
dstambouack03:45
dstambouthat's pretty much the reason I went to gentoo, was sick of all that rubbish from mandrake and rpms03:45
crimsundstambou: if you build your own debs on your Kubuntu machine, yes03:45
dstambouand the lack of available software packages03:45
gdhdstambou: Does the whole gentoo thing not rely on /someone/ having made an 'ebuild' for that software though?03:46
crimsununfortunately, most people just want to grab whatever suits them without checking carefully whether they're actual Ubuntu packages03:46
dstambougdh: in a sense, it is very easy to edit/add a new ebuild though - can simply mean changing a few digits - and as the ebuild is simply a pointer to sources... very simple03:47
dstamboudon't have to wait for people to build, if ever03:47
dstambouso a simple ebuild can be a couple of lines of bash scripting03:47
gdhdoes gentoo revolve around /usr/local ? (I've never used it)03:47
dstambougdh: not sure what you mean by 'revolve' ?03:47
gdhI suppose it wouldn't since everything would be site-local compilations...03:48
gdhheh :)03:48
dstambouI don't mind building from source - there are binaries available for a lot of packages also03:49
dstambouI would just like a more simplified system, where things 'just work'03:49
gdhthat's the ultimate goal :)03:49
crimsunremember that you're not exactly limited by repositories lacking a certain package you want03:49
crimsunyou can always download the deb-src and compile it on your Kubuntu install03:49
crimsun(applies to any distro)03:50
gdhdstambou: indeed, debian makes it easy... apt-get build-dep will install all of the -dev packages required to recompile a given package.03:50
gdhdstambou: so if all you want is a newer version than what ships wih Kubuntu, you can get the build-dep, followed by apt-get source package, and re-use the debian/ directory with the latest tarball.. 99% of the time that will work fine :)03:51
dstambouI will give it a go, let it download tonight when I sleep :)03:51
gdhend result: you get a home-made .deb of your new software :)03:51
dstambouI will keep my gentoo install about, and see how we go03:51
dstambouI've been very happy with the portage system03:52
dstambouvery versatile03:52
dstamboucrimsun: gdh: thank you kindly for your assistance, it has been much appreciated03:53
gdhNo problem {:-)03:53
crimsunyw, g'luck03:53
dstambouif anything goes wrong, I will be back here to rant about :p03:54
gdhWe have a /dev/null redirection for that =)03:54
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seth_k:P03:55
dstambouhttp://ian.kluft.com/humor/devnull.html03:56
dstambou:03:56
dstambou/dev/null is vulnerable! hehe03:56
seth_knooooooo03:58
bccshey03:58
bccsis there a Apollon package for kubunto?03:59
bccskubuntu*03:59
seth_kthere is indeed03:59
seth_k1.0.1-1 is in hoary universe03:59
bccsgreat. tks.04:00
dstambouup to 1.0.2 though :p04:00
gdhfeh, Kubuntu was released 3 months ago, and frozen before then :)04:01
seth_kI can backport it if you'd like?04:01
dstamboupackage frozen?04:01
seth_kuniverse freezes about halfway through a release cycle (autosync from Debian stops)04:01
dstambouI think latest version of apollon I have is 1.0.2.104:01
dstambouah04:01
seth_ke.g., Breezy autosync freeze was this week04:01
gdhwow :)04:01
seth_khowever, new packages will be entering universe all the way into october04:02
seth_kwe just have to manually request them over04:02
dstambouseth_k: your name seems *very* familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it... would there be somewhere I would know you from? :)04:02
dstambouah04:02
seth_kdstambou: not sure. InvisionFree, Neowin, UbuntuForums, A Small Orange, Invision Power?04:03
seth_kthose would be my top five hangouts04:03
seth_ki'm also a fresh new Ubuntu member =D if you attend the CC meetings04:03
dstambouI'm not sure, the name is tugging at the back of my mind... I'm sure it will come to me heh :)04:04
dstambouneed some coffee maybe04:04
seth_khaha04:04
=== seth_k backports krename
gdhwwo renaming of the future comes to the present! :)04:06
seth_kthat's deep, gdh. real deep. ;)04:06
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gdhI'm assuming that's the plural :)04:07
gdhgoddamnit I have drunk entirely too slowly today. I am still perfectly sober.04:08
seth_kNo gdh, that's a good thing04:09
seth_kYour liver will thank you04:09
gdhfeh :)04:09
gdhI am clean-living, this is my only vice =)04:10
gdhHm, did I just contradict myself there?04:10
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seth_koy monchy04:16
seth_kwhat's new04:16
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seth_kmm, krename 3.0.3-2build1 backported to Hoary04:18
gdh*rock* :)04:20
monchyjust got in, went to the bar with some mates then saw war of the worlds04:21
gdhIs it any use?04:21
gdhI dunno about Tom Cruise as a concept in that :/04:22
seth_ki hear the ending is lame :(04:23
monchyspecial effects were ace but the rest was eh...04:23
seth_kbut there are lots of explosions :)04:23
monchyyea it was04:23
monchyreal gay ending04:23
monchybatman begins made up for it though lol04:24
seth_khaha, they had that on pirated DVD when I was in Mexico last week04:24
seth_k45 cents04:24
monchysweet04:24
monchydid you get it?04:24
gdhleaves it open for 'war of the universe' - an apocalyptical epic about free software in an uncontrolled environment...04:24
gdhand 'Ubuntu - The Musical'04:24
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paxsup guys04:37
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gdhEr... watching the game. Having a bud?04:38
gdh</nervously>04:38
paxjust installed kubuntu, what's this 194.135.4.8 connected to the system? Is this the repos or kubuntu's IP?04:38
monchyif it was the jays game, more like watching the game and screaming at it04:38
paxpax@debuntu:~$ last -d04:39
paxpax      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 22:03   still logged in04:39
paxpax      :0           0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 22:03 - 22:03  (00:00)04:39
paxreboot   system boot  0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 21:57          (00:40)04:39
paxsystem booted with fresh kubuntu install, and showing connection from that IP, what's this about?04:39
gdhinetnum:      194.135.4.0 - 194.135.4.25504:40
gdhdescr:        Samara City Bank04:40
gdhaddress:      Russia04:40
gdhwow :)04:40
gdhI'm impressed.04:40
paxowned at boot?04:40
paxgdh: run that command and tell me what you see04:40
paxlast -d04:40
seth_kRussia own joo box04:41
gdhhaha snap! :)04:41
seth_ki ran it and got nothing but 0.0.0.0's04:41
paxweird04:41
gdhthat's utterly impossible and must be some malfunction :)04:41
paxI run chkrootkit and other tools, nothing04:41
paxsnoopy shows NO activity on the system04:42
paxwtf where are the kubuntu rookies?04:42
seth_kpax: Kubuntu doesn't even have any ports open by default04:42
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paxseth_k: so what's that IP about?04:43
seth_ktry a netstat -a04:43
seth_ksee what they're connected to04:43
seth_k(it'll be at the top of the huge list of stuff that gets spit out)04:43
paxStarting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-07-09 22:43 EDT04:43
paxInteresting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):04:43
pax(The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)04:43
paxPORT    STATE SERVICE04:43
pax25/tcp  open  smtp04:43
pax631/tcp open  ipp04:43
paxseth nothing with netstat04:44
paxActive Internet connections (servers and established)04:44
paxProto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State04:44
paxtcp        0      0 localhost.localdoma:ipp *:*                     LISTEN04:44
paxtcp        0      0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:*                     LISTEN04:44
paxtcp        0      0 ool-43518583.dyn.:34759 brown.freenode.net:ircd ESTABLISHED04:44
paxtcp6       0      0 ip6-localhost:smtp      *:*                     LISTEN04:44
seth_kodd04:45
paxthat's my ip, nothing showing the other IP?04:45
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paxis there some clock server on Kunbuntu or something like that .. connecting to some server for sync?04:47
gdhit does that once at startup.04:48
paxso could that be it?04:48
gdh"ntp.ubuntulinux.org" 82.211.81.14504:48
gdhIt's just a bug, completely bogus mis information.04:49
gdhfile a bug report :)04:49
paxfucking BS man, this Kubuntu stuff is shady04:49
gdhI see the same thing here with last -d and I have no ports forwarded to this machine04:49
paxyou see what?04:49
gdhgdh      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 18:21   still logged in04:49
paxyou see taht same IP from russsia?04:50
paxno shit04:50
paxare you serious?04:50
seth_kfile a bug about it, someone will be able to tell you what it is04:50
seth_kwhere are you located, pax?04:50
paxNew Jersey, U.S of A04:51
seth_kheh04:51
seth_knot russia04:51
paxthat's what I'm saying dude04:51
seth_kyou should be using the same ntp server i am, then04:51
seth_kmy thought is to file a bug. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com04:51
seth_kand ask what's up04:52
seth_k?? bugzilla04:52
kinfoNo match for "bugzilla"04:52
seth_k!learn bugzilla http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com04:52
kinfoInprinted bugzilla (memory injection successful)04:52
paxman this is freaking me out04:52
paxI install a distro and it's connected to some russian IP?04:52
monchylol04:52
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gdhpax: Calm down. You found a bug, not a government conspiracy :)04:53
griottalguien que hable espaol ?04:53
kalenedraelhmmm04:53
kalenedraelthis !learn function can easily be abused, i think04:53
paxa bug, so you all have that same IP?04:53
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seth_kkalenedrael: if I'm around, people that abuse it go on a vacation from the channel :P04:53
gdhpax: Well, maybe not 'all' but I certainly do for every login, so it is bogus.04:54
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paxgdh, so you are owned too, let's create a club called OwnedByKubuntu04:54
kalenedraellike "!learn goatse http://goat.cx"04:54
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gdhpax: heh :)04:55
seth_kbut who is going to type "?? goatse04:55
kalenedraeldunno04:55
seth_kopportunities for abuse are minimal imo04:55
kkathmanevening there gdh :)04:55
kalenedraelactually, if anyone asks what goatse is04:55
gdhkkathman: hai :)04:55
kkathmano/04:55
gdhkkathman: Am just pondering retiring for the evening ... nearly 4am...04:55
kkathmanahhh you should...very early in the morning :)04:56
gdhkkathman: just finishing th final glass of whisky for tonight =)04:56
kkathmanand sleep late :)04:56
gdhI don't see light outside yet - that's the final trigger04:56
griottexists floppy net install kubuntu ?04:56
gdhkkathman:  although once it gets to September, that can get a bit ridiculous.04:56
kkathmanlol04:56
griotthelp to net install for floppy ..04:56
kkathmanMust admit, I have done the all nighters04:57
gdhallnighters are much more pleasant when there's no Ultimately-Futile project/assignment to hand in at 9am....04:57
seth_ktrue that04:58
seth_ki pulled my first all nighter, but it was because I was on a roll04:58
seth_knot because anything was due that morning04:58
seth_kresearch papers = the suck :)04:58
kkathmangdh - true that :)04:58
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gdhrighto, that's enough 1980's nonsense pop music for one night - good night, all :)05:03
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=== ..[topic/#Kubuntu:pax] : last -d and see who owns you, fix this distro please!
delltonyhi05:04
=== ..[topic/#Kubuntu:seth_k] : http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/qt4/ | Kubuntu help channel | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | KOffice 1.4 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php | KDE 3.4.1 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php/
seth_kpax, not acceptable please.05:05
paxseth_k: sorry, but this is a serious issue.05:05
seth_kpax, file a bug and you will get an answer05:05
seth_kit does not belong in /topic05:05
paxok.05:05
seth_ki agree that this is an issue05:05
seth_kand i'm glad you're taking it seriously05:05
seth_kbut the devs are the ones who can answer you05:05
paxthank you for your high understanding.05:05
seth_kif you need help with bugzilla, I'm happy to assist you05:06
delltonycan somene help me in getting libmp3lame installed into mplayer so i can make dvd too xvid like the guide indicates using libmp3lame and mencoder?05:06
paxseth_k: let me file the bug, if I encounter any problems I'll let you know.05:06
seth_kpax: sounds good05:06
seth_kpax: you might also consider stopping by #ubuntu-devel05:08
delltony:( guess not05:08
seth_kthey can maybe give you a quick answer05:08
seth_kdelltony: that doesn't sound like a KDE-specific answer, so I'll bet you'll get better help in #ubuntu :)05:08
delltonywell i just came here cause i run kubuntu but thats cool and ubuntu never answers me05:09
delltonyis why ii tried over here05:09
paxseth_k: I created n account and signed in, dont see where to file *new* bug05:09
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seth_kdelltony: that's a pretty specific question unfortunately05:09
seth_kprobably no one has experience with it05:09
seth_kpax: it's at the bottom. Actions: Home | New05:09
delltonyprobably but i find it hard to believe that noone besides me wants to make dvds and convert them too xvid05:10
paxseth_k: New takes to a page with documentation and information about Ubuntu05:10
delltonyonly reason i want to do this is cause i travel with my job and i can fit around 4 dvds onto a dvd with xvid or so05:11
seth_kpax: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/enter_bug.cgi05:11
delltonywherer otherwse i have to take and carry all the dvds with me05:11
paxyes that's the page, thank you.05:11
seth_kno problem05:11
paxseth_k: what 'package' should this be reported in?05:12
seth_kpax: it's not a package issue, I would use unknown05:12
paxk05:12
sproingiehm.  i moved a new font into /usr/share/fonts ... how do i make kde aware of it?05:13
sproingiefirefox is finding it, it shows up in fonts:/ but konqueror doesn't select it for unicode ranges while firefox does05:14
sproingiewhich is a rather surprising reversal of the usual case05:14
seth_kindeed05:15
sproingiei usually use konqueror because firefox's unicode font selection algorithm sucks05:15
seth_ksproingie: have you used System -> Font Installer to make it usable by KDE?05:16
sproingieseth_k: under the k menu?05:17
sproingiei have no such item off the k menu05:17
seth_ksproingie: it is in KControl / SystemSettings05:17
sproingieah there it is05:18
sproingiegoddammit05:18
sproingiekdesu is broken again05:18
seth_kdo you have kde 3.4.1 ?05:18
sproingieit asks for root pw, i enter it, it shows the main kcontrol panel instead05:18
seth_kyeah05:18
seth_kbreezy has that fixed completely, kde 3.4.1 goes a long ways towards stopping it :/05:19
sproingienope, 3.4.005:19
seth_ksproingie: I'd try upgrading :/05:19
sproingiei just realized i don't have kubuntu in my sources05:19
sproingiewhat's the source line?05:19
seth_kin /topic ;)05:19
seth_kBreezy eschews KControl in favor of systemsettings, so no more issues then =D05:22
sproingieer, oddly i'm not seeing the kubuntu repo in the faq's sources.list file05:22
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seth_ksproingie: the last part. KDE 3.4.1 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php05:24
ghostdogI having bug issues with konqueror05:24
sproingieoh, missed the more obvious link 05:24
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ghostdogevery so often kde crash handler will generate a backtrace05:24
seth_kghostdog: upgrade to kde 3.4.1, it's fixed05:24
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ghostdogwhat reps?05:25
ghostdogapt-get update?05:25
seth_kghostdog: see the last part of /topic05:25
seth_kkde 3.4.105:25
ghostdogmi bad05:25
seth_kno worries05:25
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seth_kpax: have a link to your bug?05:26
ghostdogI'll give it a try05:26
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seth_kghostdog: that should fix all the crashes05:26
ghostdogthanks05:27
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paxseth_k: yes sir. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256805:31
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griotthey alguien me ayuda a instalar kubuntu ?05:32
sproingiehm, arts is broken in the kde upgrade05:32
sproingielooking for libarts1 and libartsc0 which aren't there05:32
griottsproingie, exist floppy net-installer for kubuntu ?05:33
paxI hope they will address this serious issue. It is confusing for new people who install Kubuntu for the first time.05:33
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paxFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kwifimanager_3.4.0-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch05:35
paxE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?05:35
paxI'm trying to dist-upgrade and this is what I get ^05:35
seth_kpax: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:35
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seth_kremove all the us.05:35
paxseth_k: why?05:35
seth_kso you have http://archive.ubuntu.com for all of them05:35
seth_kpax: us archive is having issues05:35
paxok, thanks05:36
griottseth_k, exist floppy net-installer for kubuntu ?05:36
griott?05:36
sproingieno floppy install05:36
sproingienot that i know of05:36
crimsunyes, there is. See the netboot directory on the mirrors.05:37
paxseth_k: would you post your sources.list somewere so I can cp it?05:37
newbiehow to close a connection initiated by fish in konquer05:37
sproingieanyway, time to restart x05:37
newbiei closed the window but the connection is still active05:37
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seth_kpax: I use breezy, so make sure to replace all "breezy" with "hoary"05:38
seth_kor you'll mess your system up05:38
seth_ker, actually, I don't even have the kde 3.4.1 source or anything05:38
seth_k?? sources05:38
kinfoNo match for "sources"05:38
paxseth_k: no doubt, I will not touch breezy until atleast august05:38
seth_khttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:39
paxexcellent.05:39
seth_kadd to that the KDE 3.4.1 source in /topic05:39
seth_kand you should be good05:39
paxI'll add backports to that.05:39
seth_kyep05:39
paxanything else related to Kubuntu I should add?05:40
seth_kthe Koffice 1.4 source, if you use koffice05:40
seth_kalso in /topic05:40
seth_kdid anyone get back to you on the IP yet?05:40
paxKoffice is excellent.05:41
paxNot yet/05:41
seth_kcrimsun: just looking, I don't see a netinstall package at /releases/05:42
crimsunseth_k: not netinstall. netboot.05:42
seth_koops :D05:43
pax789kb/s not bad, I would gladly host backports or other for kubuntu/ubuntu.05:43
paxErrors were encountered while processing:05:44
pax /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb05:44
paxE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:44
paxspoke too soon05:44
seth_kdoes it give the error if you scroll up?05:47
paxseth_k: fixed, thank you.05:49
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seth_kgreat05:50
paxI tried this script to save some time, but it messed my sources.list.05:50
paxhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&pp=1005:50
pax<cafuego> pax: There you go, bug is filed.05:51
paxthis gentleman have the same problem05:52
seth_kyep, i've been watching #ubuntu too05:52
paxHawkish, aren't you :)05:52
seth_kit's a living ;)05:54
paxwhat's the cmd for cp in konsole, I always used ctrl+shift+v05:55
paxshift+insert, nvm05:55
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ToyManhi all06:04
ToyManscp -r should catch hidden dir too, yes?06:04
seth_khmmm06:07
paxseth_k: you work for ubuntu?06:07
seth_khaha, figurative living06:07
seth_kno, I'm just a student06:07
paxGreat!06:08
paxdidnt get any feedback on that bug report, maybe it wasn't clear enough.06:09
seth_kpax: things move a bit slower than that06:10
seth_kToyMan: looking at its sister functions, -r will catch hidden dirs06:11
seth_kToyMan: but try it and see :P06:11
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pax!7.0-0.9~5.04ubp206:12
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paxno bot here?06:13
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seth_kwhat are you wanting to know?06:13
seth_ki doubt the bot knows about a version string06:14
Speedy2I don't know if this is Kubuntu specific or not, but KDE seems to look for my mounted drives in /media -- anyway to change that? I prefer the standard UNIX /mnt location06:16
Speedy2Any ideas on how to have it look at /mnt ?06:16
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Speedy2Hello?06:22
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monchyhelllllllo06:27
Speedy2Any idea here on how to get KDE to look in /mnt for my mount points?06:27
monchyi have no idea, but i didn't want to leave you hanging without a hello06:28
Speedy2Heh.  Thanks ;)06:31
monchyyour welcome06:32
Speedy2Where is my welcome?06:33
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seth_ksleep for me, night all06:51
monchynight06:51
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paxg'night seth_k 06:56
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Computer__Guruk/ubuntu seems pretty nice, but doesnt seem very complete... i compiled mplayer and i only have two video out options, x11 & xvidix, and neither one works.. im running the right xserver (ati)... this is frustrating as all holy hell07:00
Computer__Guruand i had to install a SLEW of dev packages before it would even compile07:01
Computer__Guruanybody else experience similar pains?07:01
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crimsunyou didn't have to compile mplayer at all. You could have used the version from multiverse.07:02
crimsunyou also didn't realise there's sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-68607:02
Computer__Guruwhat's the package name cause i have multiverse in my sources.list and nothing matched in a "dpkg -l '*mplayer*'"07:03
crimsunso... once you actually install the correct mplayer package, you can choose -vo xv07:03
Computer__Guruokay we're gonna try this07:04
crimsunget rid of your current mplayer installation first07:04
Computer__Guruim on it07:04
Computer__Gurudidnt know about this build-dep thing :D07:05
Computer__Gurutyvm07:05
crimsunnp07:05
crimsunyou'll want to ensure that all the necessary repos are enabled07:05
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Computer__Guruthey are :)07:07
Computer__Guruyou, sir, are a most helpful mammal07:07
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Computer__Guruwhy does it also install mplayer-586?07:09
Computer__Guruand which does it default to?07:10
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Computer__Guruthat worked like a charm, btw07:15
Computer__Guruwhat about xmms? is there a better versiont han the one i have currently installed that i dont know about?07:16
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Computer__Gurusomebody just shot up a house downt he street08:06
Computer__Guruwheeeeeeeeeeeeee08:06
monchyhey at least i'm not the only person who lives in the ghetto08:09
Computer__Guruheh08:09
Computer__Gurunothing like the sound of a little automatic gunfire to wake you right up08:09
monchyi feel ya man, get used to it though08:10
Computer__Gurucause lemme tell ya08:10
Computer__Gurumy eyes are wide open now08:10
Computer__Guruthat shit was less than a block away08:10
Computer__Gurui should take a couple screenshots08:11
monchypopos there already?08:11
Computer__Gurupopos were already on duty at the bar downstairs.. by the time i hit the door, they were both across the street guns drawn08:11
Computer__Guruless than a minute later there were over 30 squads and three helis08:11
Computer__Gurua third of which were paddywagons08:12
monchysounds like a drug deal gone bad lol08:12
Computer__Gurunah they shot up an apartment08:12
Computer__Guruthe lady inside said she had no clue why or who would have done it08:12
Computer__Gurushe looked like she'd been asleep08:12
Computer__Guruwas in her panties and a tee shirt08:13
Computer__Guruwith a mudpack on her face08:13
monchyhah, maybe some crackheads08:13
Computer__Guruhard to tell08:13
monchygotta be somethin for some people to just roll up like that and start shootin08:13
Computer__Guruim gonna go make some tea, then im gonna take some screenshots of my desktop, then im gonna post em and brag :D08:13
monchylol alright08:15
Computer__Gurumacromedia needs to develop fireworks for linux08:21
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Computer__Gurui'd be in graphics heaven08:21
Computer__Gurucause i despise gimp (read:I'm too lazy to learn it)08:22
Computer__Guruoh and it wasnt a house08:23
Computer__Guruthey just didnt find the body till just now08:23
Computer__Gurusomebody is dead as a doorknob.... fifteen shots to the head, chest, and right thigh08:23
monchygotta wonder man, could be gang related who knows08:24
Computer__Guruprobably drug08:24
Computer__Gurufired08:25
Computer__Guruhe was let go with no possibility of rehire08:25
monchybe back, gonna run down to the gas station for a mega slurpie08:26
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Computer__Guruhttp://www.Daede.com/MyDesktop.jpg08:55
Computer__Guruthere it is :)08:55
Computer__Guruthat's what kubuntu looks like for me :D08:55
Computer__Guruthat's less than an hour of customizing kubuntu08:58
Computer__Gurui should submit this screenshot to kde-look.org and kubuntu.org09:02
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xxenonComputer__Guru - is there a superkaramba there ?09:06
Computer__Gurua what?09:10
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Borg^QueenHey people  how do I get freenode to email me my password09:10
xxenonhow you made the menu (bellow) ?09:11
Borg^QueenI changed it and now I can't find the pad with the passw on it09:11
Computer__Gurufind an oper09:11
Computer__Guruthis looks like an old version of services09:11
Borg^QueenI tried, no dice09:12
Borg^Queenrude people09:12
Computer__Guruoh09:12
Borg^Queenthey keep say there's a command but when I ask them what it is they don't answer or tell me to look it up09:12
Computer__Gurutry /msg nickserv help09:13
Borg^Queenok I'll give it a shot09:13
Computer__Gurui didnt see anythign there though09:14
Borg^Queennope09:14
Borg^Queenother servers do have it09:14
Borg^Queenit figures they don't09:15
Computer__Gurueh i dunno, pester em till they help you09:15
Computer__Gurudid you try #OperHelp?09:15
Borg^Queenok09:15
Borg^Queenempty09:15
Computer__Guru#opers09:16
Computer__Guru#help09:16
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Computer__Guru*shrug*09:16
Borg^Queentried them all09:16
Borg^Queenthanks09:16
Borg^Queeninefficient server09:17
Computer__Guruwish i could help more09:17
Computer__Guruif this were dalnet and like 1997 i could have retrieved it for you :D09:17
Borg^QueenThis was dalnet09:18
Borg^QueenHey whatever happened to dalnet09:18
Computer__Guruit's still there09:18
Computer__Guruthis wasnt dalnet09:18
Borg^Queenok09:18
Computer__Guruthis just uses bahamut09:18
Computer__Guruthe dalnet version of ircd09:18
Borg^Queenah09:19
Computer__Guruthe services version here is OLD09:19
Borg^Queenso it would seem09:19
Computer__Gurudalnet's services is leaps and bounds ahead of this system09:19
Borg^QueenI used a standard command to get them to email me the password but it didn't work09:19
Borg^Queenoh Computer__Guru can you ask in #freenode?09:22
Borg^QueenSince I can't ask09:22
Borg^Queenhello?09:27
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Computer__Guruim a pimp09:51
Computer__Guruhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2628309:51
Computer__Gurugo rate it and add a comment :)09:52
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devhey09:57
devi need help09:57
devanyone around09:58
dev71 helpers would be cool09:58
Computer__Guruwhats up?09:58
shogoukijust tell your pb ...09:58
devi installed kubuntu tonight, but i cant get on the net with it09:59
Computer__Guruwhat are you using now10:00
Computer__Guru?10:00
devwintendos10:00
shogoukihave you read doc and faq about ubuntu on the net ?10:00
devtons10:00
delltonycan someone look at this http://pastebin.com/310406 and explain to me what needs to be done to get the mplayer too compile?10:01
devdelltony u stalker10:01
delltonyi'm wanting to mencode dvd to xvid so mplayer is what i need10:02
Computer__Gurudelltony: follow these instructions10:02
devy so hard up for xvid?10:02
Computer__Gurumake sure you have deb's for universe and multiverse10:02
Computer__Gurudo you?10:02
delltonyyep10:02
Computer__Guruok10:02
Computer__Gurunow10:02
Computer__Guruapt-get build-deps mplayer-68610:03
Computer__Guruwhen that's done10:03
Computer__Guruapt-get install mplayer-68610:03
Computer__Guruta-da10:03
delltonybut will that be with libmp3lame support?10:03
Computer__Guruyou're also gonna want mplayer-fonts10:03
devpretty smart huh10:03
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Computer__Gurui know it plays xvid10:03
delltonyblah wiith playing them10:03
delltonyi'm wanting to mencode them10:03
Computer__Guruoh i duno beyond that10:04
Computer__Gurutry it, can't hurt10:04
delltonyit has to be compiled 10:04
devdelltony fix my internet10:04
delltonycause lame-dev is not installed on the pc by default10:04
Computer__Gurudev: is kubuntu on a different machine by chance? can you perform commands on it while yout alk to me?10:05
delltonybut anyway ill keep on looking10:05
devyes 10:05
Computer__Gurucool10:05
Computer__Guruopen a terminal10:05
Computer__Guruand10:05
Computer__Gurulspci | grep therne10:05
Computer__Guruwhat comes up?10:06
devhang on ok10:06
devplzz10:06
Computer__Gurucan i let go yet?10:10
Computer__Guru:D10:10
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delltonyyou killed him10:11
delltonyhaha10:11
Computer__Gurui guess so10:12
devok10:12
devsorry10:12
devhere10:12
devspermie@Spermie:~$ lspci | grep therne10:12
dev0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)10:12
Computer__GuruRESURRECTION!10:12
Computer__Guruokay10:12
Computer__Gurunow10:12
Computer__Gurulsmod | grep net10:12
Computer__Guruspermie?10:13
devLol10:13
Computer__Gurulol, nice hostname10:13
Computer__Guruwhoami:10:13
Computer__Gurujay10:13
Computer__Guruhostname:10:13
Computer__Gurupsilocybin10:13
Computer__Guru:D10:13
delltonydelltony10:13
dev=P10:13
devwhat do i do after that10:13
Computer__Guruwhat was the output?10:14
devdidnt do anything10:14
delltonydev type /exec -o lsmod | grep net10:14
Computer__Gurutry10:14
Computer__Gurulsmod | grep rtk10:14
delltonyjust curious what is the issue?10:15
devdidnt do anything10:15
devwell nothing came up on that command10:15
Computer__Gurufunny, i dont have a loaded ethernet module either, according to lsmod10:16
delltonydev what is the issue?10:16
devdont have internet10:16
delltonycan't connect to internet on ethernet card 10:16
Computer__Guruhis nic doesnt work10:16
devnever did on kubuntu firsttime install10:16
Computer__Guruwait, mine is 3c59x10:17
delltonytype /exec -o cat /etc/network/interfaces 10:17
Computer__Guruhave you tried ifup -a10:17
Computer__Guru?10:17
devno10:18
delltonyif its not listed in the interfaces the ifup is not gonna wor10:18
delltonyerr work10:18
Computer__Gurutry typing: ifup -a10:18
Computer__Guruit might be listed tho10:18
Computer__Gurutype: lsmod10:18
Computer__Guruand see if you see your realtek there10:18
delltonyi was waiting for the output of the command10:18
delltonyare you on a router?10:19
delltonytype sudo dhclient10:19
devsaid ifup: interface lo aready configured10:19
Computer__Guruso it's not there10:20
Computer__Guruholdon10:20
Computer__Gurulemme see if i can find the module you need to insert10:20
delltonycan you please type whats in interfaces10:20
devdelltony hey the comand u gave, it said no such file or directory10:20
delltonyand answer my question of are you on a router10:20
devyes10:20
devbut trust i know thats not the problem10:20
delltonyso you don't have /etc/network/interfaces?10:21
devyeah i do10:21
delltonythen whats it say ini there10:21
delltonyin regard to your eth010:21
Computer__Gurui dont think it says anything10:21
devwell there wasnt no auto eth0 in there which should be10:21
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delltonyright10:21
delltonyso tell me what it says10:22
devthat coomand u gave me didnt work tho so i cant really remember, i just remember looking in there with nano -w10:22
delltonywell the /exec -o was for xchat to display to screen10:23
delltonybut nano /etc/network/interfaces or open it in a text editor10:23
delltonyand hit ctrl a and ctrl c and then come here and ctrl v10:23
delltonynone the less10:23
devalright10:23
delltonyit should have the loopback of auto lo10:23
Computer__Gurutry this10:24
delltonyiface lo inet loopback10:24
delltonythen it should have the map of the hotplug of10:24
delltonymap eth010:24
Computer__Guruinsmod 8139cp10:24
devwhats that?10:24
Computer__Guruit's one of two kernel modules for the 8139 chipset10:24
Computer__Guruwhich you have10:25
Computer__Gurubut that makes me wonder why in the name of the gods hotplug didnt do it for you10:26
delltonyi'm goonna say its working10:26
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delltonybut dhclient hasn't assigned him a ip10:26
delltonycause of settings in the interfaces file10:26
Computer__Guruhe'll know if it's working by doing an lsmod and finding something that starts with 813910:27
Computer__Gurudo:10:27
Computer__Gurulsmod | grep 813910:27
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devsorry hang on10:30
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tommorrisHey all10:37
tommorrisCan someone please come and seed kubutu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso10:37
tommorrisWe're all stuck at 72.1%10:37
Computer__Guruwish i had it, bro10:38
tommorrisIs there any way of formally requesting a seed?10:38
Computer__Guruyou could try emailing the ubuntu team, i guess10:38
tommorrisCheers, I'll do that in a minute10:38
tommorrisI wish BitTorrent had an option where you could provide a torrent but back it up with an FTP server - so if the torrent drops between 100% availability, the FTP server kicks in and seeds until it's fully available again.10:40
tommorriss/between/below10:40
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devhmm10:55
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dev=--(10:56
Computer__Guruwhats up dev?10:57
devstill aint working10:57
Computer__Gurudo:10:58
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Computer__Gurulsmod | grep 813910:58
devok10:59
Computer__Guruwhat'd it do?10:59
Computer__Gurubrb, i gotta fetch my noodles11:00
Computer__Guruim back11:03
Computer__Gurudid it output anything?11:03
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devspermie@Spermie:~$ lsmod | grep 813911:06
dev8139cp                 19200  011:06
dev8139too                24320  011:06
devmii                     4736  2 8139cp,8139too11:06
devspermie@Spermie:~$              11:06
devthats what it said11:06
Computer__Guruokay, your driver is loaded11:07
Computer__Gurugimme a second11:07
devok11:07
Computer__Guruedit /etc/network/interfaces11:07
Computer__Guruand add the following line11:07
Computer__Guruiface eth0 inet dhcp11:07
Computer__Guruthen11:07
Computer__Guruifup eth011:07
Computer__Guruthat REALLY should work11:07
devlol11:08
devu remember dell tony11:08
devhe made me do this11:08
Computer__Guruwhat of him?11:08
devdelltony under priimary you want the following11:08
devdelltony iface eth0 inet static11:08
devdelltony address 192.168.15.21011:08
devdelltony netmask 255.255.255.011:08
devdelltony gateway 192.168.15.111:08
devdelltony auto eth011:08
devdelltony then save the file11:08
devdelltony when that is done11:09
devdelltony then type sudo ifdown -a11:09
devdelltony sudo ifup -a11:09
Computer__Guruno screw all that11:09
Computer__Guruyou dont want static11:09
devlol11:09
Computer__Guruyou want dhcp, right?11:09
devi dont care i just want net11:09
Computer__Guruokay, so remove all that crap, add the line i told you then sudo ifdown -a then sudo ifup -a11:10
Computer__Guruthat reminds me11:10
Computer__Guruthis no root account shit really fucks some stuff up11:10
Computer__Guruim gonna add the root acct11:10
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dev iface eth0 inet dhcp i already had that in there tho before11:12
devand still nothing11:12
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Computer__Gurujust homor me and try to ifdown/ifup it real quick11:12
Computer__Guruhumor11:12
Computer__Gurucause i think isnmod'ing 8139 might have done it11:13
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markushello11:14
markushot to rogin with root in KDE11:15
Computer__Guruwhat?!?11:15
markusany one alive ?11:15
markus*how11:15
Computer__Guruoh11:15
Computer__Guruholdon, ill get it for you11:15
devComputer__Gur nothing =(11:15
markusi want change auto login for my user11:15
Computer__Guruto root?11:16
markusk11:16
Computer__Guruare you mad man?11:16
markusyes11:16
Computer__Guruare you using kubuntu?11:16
markusyes11:16
Computer__Guruyou're gonna have to search the wiki, because before you can do that you have to enable the root account ont he entire system.. it's disabled by default11:16
Computer__Gurudev: is there a chance in hell the cable is bad?11:17
Computer__Gurubrb11:17
markuswhere11:17
markusin where place 11:17
markus??11:18
kinfoi don't understand.11:18
Computer__Guruin the ubuntu wiki11:18
Computer__Guruits explained how to activate the root account11:18
markuswhat about me ?11:19
markusany suggest11:19
Computer__Gurumarkus11:19
Computer__Guruthe answer you are looking for is in the ubuntu wiki (for the third time)11:20
Computer__Guruyou must ENABLE the root account, it is DISABLED by default in ubuntu11:20
markusi was do that11:20
markushere11:20
markusroot@pc17:/home/pc17 #11:20
markusthe root pass 12345611:20
Computer__Guruok11:20
Computer__Guruyou are actually root?11:21
markusi type that and kde says wrong pass11:21
Computer__Gurunot sudo root?11:21
markusi get it from rescue mode11:21
markusand type passwd11:21
markuspasswd 12345611:21
Computer__Guruok11:23
Computer__Gurudo this11:23
Computer__Guruedit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc11:23
devHOLLY FUCKING SHIT11:23
Computer__Guruand change AllowRootLogin=false to AllowRootLogin=true11:23
Computer__Guruthen restart kdm11:23
devWE GOT internet up in running11:23
Computer__Gurudev: how'd u dew it?11:24
markusok11:24
markusdev lol11:24
devlol11:24
devtrird another nic11:25
devdont i feel like a jack ass11:25
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Computer__Guru:D11:25
dev:(11:26
Computer__Guruit;s all good, if it works it works11:26
devyup11:26
Computer__Guruwelcome to ubuntu11:26
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Computer__Gurunow11:26
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:26
raul33064hi11:26
Computer__Guruquick, like a bunny11:26
raul33064hi everybody11:26
Computer__Guruhi raul3306411:26
raul33064hi computer_Guru11:27
devsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?11:27
devi already have a desktop11:27
devkdes up and running11:27
Computer__Guruoh i thought since you were in #kubuntu you'd want to install the kde desktop :D11:27
Computer__Guruoh11:27
devoh i got the desktop11:28
dev3.411:28
devi guess thats what it is11:28
Computer__Guruhow'd you get the desktop without having internet?11:28
devi dont have clue11:28
devbut i did it11:28
Computer__Guruyou on the live cd?11:29
devyeah11:29
Computer__Guruthat explains it11:29
devis this right.  sudo apt-get install gaim ?11:29
Computer__Gurucan you install the live-cd to the hdd?11:29
Computer__Gurugaim is already installed11:29
devits not poping up and i cant find it anywhere11:30
Computer__Gurudpkg -l '*gaim*'11:30
devbut yes to answer ur question11:30
Computer__Gurushould be ii11:30
devno packages found matching gaim11:31
devthats what it said11:31
Computer__Guruoh11:31
Computer__Gurulol11:31
devi dont think i got all the kde programs when i installed ir11:31
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get update11:31
dev=(11:31
Computer__Guruthen try again11:31
devwhat do i do?11:32
Computer__Guruyeah you should have downloaded the ubuntu install disc then installed kubuntu11:32
devsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:32
dev?11:32
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get update11:32
devok11:32
devsaid done11:32
devdidnt take long11:32
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:33
dev kubuntu-desktop already the newest version11:34
devis what i said11:34
devit^11:34
Computer__Gurui dunno, then.. run synaptic and select KDE (kubuntu) and check everything then apply11:34
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markussorry dc11:34
markushey what the file i must edit it11:35
markusComputer_Guru11:35
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markusare u there ??11:36
Computer__Guruit's /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc11:36
markusokay11:36
devdamn dont even have synaptic11:36
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get install synaptic11:36
paxkynptic11:36
Computer__Gurukynaptic is evil11:37
Computer__Gurudont do it11:37
Computer__Guruthat package is far from complete11:37
markusapt-get ??11:37
markuswhat about that11:37
paxtoo easy11:37
Computer__Guruwhat about it?11:37
markusLoading ............................................11:37
paxComputer__Guru: run last -d 11:38
devsaid synaptic has no installation candidate11:38
paxtell me if you see some IP you dont recognise as logged in11:38
devmaking me angery again11:38
Computer__Gurufor what?11:39
paxconfirming a bug11:39
devi cant even apt-get anything11:39
Computer__Gurunope11:39
paxsafe11:39
Computer__Gurui only see one ip address11:39
paxwich is?11:40
Computer__Gurumine :D11:40
dev=?11:40
paxdev?11:40
Computer__Guruwait, thats not my ip11:40
devis there a reason y i can't apt-get anything?11:41
Computer__Gurupax whats your ip?11:41
paxLOL11:41
paxis it  194.135.4.8 ?11:41
Computer__Guruyes11:41
Computer__Guruwtf is that11:41
paxowned :/11:41
Computer__Gurubut it shows up every time11:41
paxreinstall, fast11:41
paxjust kidding it's a bug11:42
paxI found today 11:42
Computer__Guruokay,w hats the bug?11:42
paxI did reinstall beleive it or not11:42
Computer__Gurujust that it shows that ip?11:42
paxI filed a report earlier11:42
paxyes11:42
Computer__Guruoh, ok11:42
paxrussian IP11:42
paxunless11:42
paxubuntu owns us all11:42
Computer__Guruwouldnt be so bad11:43
Computer__Gurualways wanted to be part of a large distributed network project :D11:43
paxit shows up every time you login/reboot11:43
devim getting agervated11:43
devthis blows horse cock11:43
Computer__Gurujay      :0           194.135.4.8      Sun Jul 10 02:31   still logged in11:44
paxdev what's the problem? network-admin?11:44
paxwep11:44
Computer__Gurudev: just download and install the install cd11:44
paxif only someone confirmed that before I reinstalled11:44
paxComputer__Guru: however do file a bug report so we can get attention11:44
devi dunno, cant apt-get anythng11:44
Computer__Gurucheck your sources.list, dev11:45
paxdev what's in your sources.list?11:45
Computer__Guruwhat's in it?11:45
devhow do i get into that>11:45
Computer__Gurupico /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
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Computer__Guruhey does anyone know if k/ubuntu supports bootsplash out of the box?11:46
Computer__Gurui really dont wanna recompile my kernel, heh11:47
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antrixComputer__Guru: Not AFAIK11:49
devthis is what was in my sources.list11:51
devdeb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main$11:51
dev## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network11:51
dev# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted11:51
dev# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted11:51
dev## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced11:51
dev## after the final release of the distribution.11:51
dev# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted11:51
dev# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted11:51
dev## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'11:51
dev## repository.11:51
dev## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu11:51
dev## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to11:51
dev## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in11:51
dev## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security11:51
dev## team.11:51
devsorry for that11:51
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Computer__Guruyou need to uncomment any line that starts with deb or deb-src11:52
Computer__Gurusudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list 11:52
Computer__Guruand do that11:52
Computer__Guruthen 11:52
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get update11:52
Computer__Guru:)11:52
devwhat do ya mean uncomment?11:52
Computer__Gururemove the #11:53
devok11:53
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devAwsome11:55
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devur the best11:56
jpatric1why thank you11:56
Computer__GuruI try :)11:56
jpatric1;)11:56
devlol11:56
jpatric1:)11:57
devnow should i try the  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?11:57
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Computer__Gurutry this11:57
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:58
Computer__Guruto give yourself a complete ubuntu system11:58
Ancagood morning11:58
devi want kubuntu11:58
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Computer__Guruand you will have it11:58
devok11:59
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Computer__Gurusince it's already installed, it will be included int he dist-upgrade11:59
AncaComputer__Guru: how can I upgrade my Mozilla Firefox? I have 1.0.2 and it asks for 1.0.411:59
Computer__Guruwww.mozilla.org?12:00
Computer__Guru*shrug*12:00
Computer__Gurulemme see what i have12:00
nikkiaanca, you don't need to upgrade it12:00
Computer__Guruhai nikkia :)12:00
devComputer__Guru im guessing this command will take a while huh?12:00
Computer__Guru<-- Jay31612:00
nikkiait is effectively 1.0.4, you just need to tell firefox to tell websites its 1.0.412:00
Computer__Guruyeah12:00
AncaI tried to go to mozilla.org but I got lost while installing the upgrade12:00
devwill i have to edit or config anything when it's done?12:01
Ancaaha, nikia, thanks for the info, going to dig :)12:01
nikkiaanca, go to about:config, and look for general.useragent.vendorsub12:01
nikkiathen set it to 1.0.412:01
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nikkiathen restart firefox and you should be able to access the extensions pages etc12:02
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Computer__Guruokay, i need to reboot to see if this bootsplash worked :)12:02
Computer__Gurubbiaf12:03
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jpatric1brb12:03
Ancathanks nikkia, it works!12:04
antrixwhich is the X headers package? Compiling something at it's complaining abt missing X11/CoreP.h and X11/IntrinsicP.h12:04
antrixi already have libx11-dev installed.. 12:04
nikkiaantrix, xlib-dev12:05
nikkiaxlibs-dev even12:05
markusguy's what mean kernel panic ??12:05
nikkiamarus, it means the kernel crashed12:06
antrixnikkia, ok. that pulled in another 14 packages.. installing now12:06
nikkiarather fatally12:06
antrixmarkus, congrats.. u've lived to tell the tale ;)12:06
markusohh damm12:06
markusi will unintal and instal it again12:07
nikkiamarus, there are a number of reasons why the kernel panics, the most common is probably because of an incorrect root=  on the boot commandline12:07
devwhy cant i go to home> on kde?12:07
nikkiawhy doesn't my k key work properly ?12:07
devfor kubuntu12:07
dev?12:07
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antrixnikkia: wireless keyboard? ooh...12:07
nikkiaantrix, yeah, and the batteries in it have been in it since i bought it, in december12:08
devhome12:08
nikkiadev, i'm not sure what you mean12:08
devlike going to my home folder^12:08
nikkiadev, the 'home' button works here12:08
devand i dont even have a home button12:09
nikkiadev, konqueror has a home button, but only if its started as konqueror12:09
nikkiachoosing 'home folder' from the 'computer' icon next to the K menu works too12:09
nikkiaand that window has a home button too :)12:10
nikkia4th button from the left on the iconbar12:10
antrixnikkia, i remember dos consoles had this trick of typing 'ALT+keycode' to get some character... any linux equivalent to that?12:10
nikkiathe default icons don't much look like a 'home' to me, but there you go12:10
nikkiaantrix, yes, there are a few different ways12:11
devlol odnt have a home button12:11
devanywhere12:11
nikkiaantrix, the default, if you have a non-US keyboard, is that the alt-gr key acts as a compose key12:11
devthis install of kubuntu is screwed12:11
nikkiaso if you hold down alt-gr and press 1, you get 12:12
nikkiahold down alt-gr and press ', then release alt-gr and press a, you get   and so on12:12
antrixnikkia, what's  gr in alt-gr?12:12
nikkiaantrix, depends on who you ask :)12:12
nikkiaits either 'graphics' or 'grey'12:12
nikkiaif you have a US keyboard, you probably don't have a alt-gr key, as in the US both alt keys do the same thing12:13
antrixdev: wipe out your kde config files if u can afford to... 'cd $HOME; rm -rf .kde/'12:13
antrixnikkia, oh ok12:13
devisnt htere suppose to be harddrive icons in ur home folder>12:13
nikkiaantrix, there are other ways to set it, on a US keyboard, i used to set compose onto the windows menu key when i lived in the US12:14
nikkiaantrix, you can change the way the keyboard behaves in the KDE control center, under regional & accessibility/Keyboard Layout/Xkb Options12:14
antrixnikkia, i don't want to! i was talking about you trying to type in 'k' with these workarounds :)12:15
nikkiaantrix, oh, well, i dunno, it was just weird, each time i tried to type markus' nick, it wouldn't accept the k, but if i typed k elsewhere, it worked12:15
nikkiamost likely the batteries are getting near flat, i have a spare pair here to swap in while these recharge tho, if they do die12:16
antrixtoo much Kde ;)12:16
devamsucan some one look under link to apllication for home icon and see what the command is for me pleassse?12:18
antrixdev: try 'kfmclient openURL $HOME'12:20
devhdarn didnt work12:24
AncaI want to install Java Runtime Envinronment for Mozilla Firefox, where should I install it?/usr/bin ?12:24
devkfmclient openURL $HOME didnt work =(12:26
Ancanevermind, I found the answer :) thanks12:27
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devim getting this everytime i try to aptget something12:31
devGet:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main gaim 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 [845kB] 12:31
devFetched 3617kB in 42s (86.0kB/s)12:31
devFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch12:31
devE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?12:31
devspermie@Spermie:~$          12:31
antrixdev, did u try running 'apt-get update'12:31
devyeah12:31
antrixand --fix-missing also?12:33
devyup12:33
nikkiadev, do not use us.archive12:33
nikkiadev, edit sources.list and change all us.archive... hostnames to just archive...12:33
devok12:35
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devawsome12:38
devxchat12:38
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devwhats that one program called12:42
devi think its gears12:42
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OculusAquilaehi12:48
Bubbling_Zombiehello12:48
OculusAquilaeif i install the qt4 packages above, can I use my old qt3 apps then, too12:49
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OculusAquilae?12:50
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jtyler4I was working on a project witha  friend and now my kubuntu setup doesn't doo certainthing correctly. 01:35
jtyler4nick #Ret1n4l01:37
jtyler4?01:37
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insanekaneRet1n4l: which certain thing ?01:38
Ret1n4lone sec01:38
Ret1n4ljtyler4@batgirl:~$ sudo apt-get update01:39
Ret1n4lsudo: unable to lookup batgirl.localhost.localdomain via gethostbyname()01:39
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Ret1n4lPassword:01:39
Ret1n4lIgn http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg01:39
Ret1n4lIgn http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras Release.gpg01:39
Ret1n4lIgn http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release01:39
Ret1n4l11% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com]  [01:39
Ret1n4ljtyler4@batgirl:~$01:39
Ret1n4lit gives me the error unable to lookup batgirl... often.01:40
insanekaneyes ..01:40
insanekaneyou need to fix ...01:40
insanekanei will tell u the filename one sec pls01:40
Ret1n4lnp01:40
insanekaneRet1n4l: /etc/hostname01:40
Ret1n4lok. I found that when I googled and guessed as much. it has the correct name 'batgirl' but gives this error anyway. should it read 'batgirl.localhost.localdomain' ?01:41
Ret1n4ljtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hostname01:43
Ret1n4lbatgirl.localhost.localdomain01:43
Ret1n4lbatgirl01:43
insanekaneno ..01:43
insanekaneRet1n4l: check /etc/hosts01:43
insanekanemodify that01:43
Ret1n4ljtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hostname01:44
Ret1n4lbatgirl.localhost.localdomain01:44
Ret1n4lbatgirl01:44
insanekane(change the last entry on the line to batgirl)01:44
insanekaneno ..01:44
Ret1n4ljtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hosts01:44
Ret1n4l127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost batgirl01:44
Ret1n4l# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts01:44
insanekaneRet1n4l: in /etc/hostname ... only one line 'batgirl'01:44
Ret1n4lfe00::0 ip6-localnet01:44
Ret1n4lff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix01:44
Ret1n4lff02::1 ip6-allnodes01:44
Ret1n4lff02::2 ip6-allrouters01:44
Ret1n4lff02::3 ip6-allhosts01:44
Ret1n4lgotcha. then start the eth0 card again?01:45
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uniqyou can also set the hostname with the 'hostname' command.01:48
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incubiihows the GCC 4.0 transition going ?02:31
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McScruffhelp me02:39
McScruffjust installed amarok and it wont play any music02:40
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McScruffbut it works in xmms02:40
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incubiiyou need to install the amarok engines02:41
incubiiapt-get install amarok-engines02:41
incubiii think is what you need to type02:41
McScruffcheers, will g olook02:41
McScruff*go look02:41
McScruffworked a treat02:47
McScruffthankyou02:47
incubiino probs02:48
McScruffthought i was gonna die with no music02:48
incubiinah wouldnt let that happen02:48
incubii:P02:48
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incubiiheh03:05
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nerfidwoohoo!  Kubuntu live is up and running!03:11
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viriatushi03:39
viriatusi have a problem with kopete03:39
viriatusit crashes when i enable guarddog firewall03:39
viriatusdoes anyone know how to resolve this?03:41
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ZugwrackAnyone know of any problems with Kubuntu and the PPS version?03:47
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gantchi, anyome can help me finding dvd codecs?03:48
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gantchelp me, please03:49
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skaagI've installed an ATI Radeon 95xx and my Xorg server doesn't load03:50
skaagdo I need to so something special for it?03:50
Bubbling_Zombiegantc, libdvdcss203:50
Bubbling_Zombieskaag, try the fglxrdrivers (check www.ubuntuguide.org)03:51
skaagit's difficult to browse with console mode...03:51
Bubbling_Zombieok, sec03:51
Bubbling_Zombiei'll cp 't it03:51
Bubbling_Zombie(you're now in console mode? :p )03:52
gantci already try to install libdvdcss2.....it seems ok but the DVD does not work....03:52
skaagyes i'm in console03:52
skaagkdm won't start03:52
skaagI tried typing xorgcfg and it loads into X properly detecting the card, I guess, but then i'm just left in that grey thatch pattern of X, with the mouse, but with nothing to do :-)03:53
gantcis it due to a protection code in my DVD?03:53
Bubbling_Zombienormally not ganto03:53
Bubbling_Zombieskaag, try sudo kdm ?03:53
gantcok, can you suggest me something?03:53
buzcould be region code issues03:53
Bubbling_Zombiegantc, what is the error?03:54
m01kynaptic is not working for me, tells me "some packages cannot be retrieved", i tried the apt-get commands from the terminal with the same results03:54
buzhttp://www.whitedust.net/speaks/837/ F**K03:54
ZugwrackAnyone here running PPC?03:55
ZugwrackAnyone here running PPC?03:55
skaagBubbling_Zombie: I tried, the screen blinks for a moment and it's back to prompt03:55
Bubbling_Zombiemmm03:55
Bubbling_Zombieany descriptive errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?03:56
skaag'no screens found'03:56
gantcI select the DVD icon and Kaffeine says tha i have no plugin to handle the resource.....what does it means?03:57
Bubbling_Zombieand another media player?03:57
gantcI try to see a descriptive log error03:57
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Bubbling_Zombieskaag, does it report an error when it load modules or something? no screens found can be everything.03:58
skaagI scrolled up to the section where it probes for the video card, but it says it's an unknown chipset and stuff03:59
Bubbling_Zombiemmm.03:59
nikkiaskaag, is it a Radeon 9200SE ?03:59
skaaglspci -v shows an ATI Technologies card, 256M ram, by Gigabyte technologies03:59
nikkiaobviously not03:59
skaagRadeon 9500 or 9550 something like that03:59
skaagjust got it from the shop03:59
Bubbling_Zombiesudo apt-get install fglrx-driver. 03:59
nikkiaskaag, sometimes you need to force the fglx driver to recognise a specific card ID03:59
skaagthey said if it won't work with linux, to bring it back and they will give me some nVidia card04:00
skaagnikkia: I see04:00
nikkiaskaag, to be honest, you're better off with nvidia in linux04:00
skaagBubbling_Zombie: installing04:00
gantcI tried to use xine......with the same result (I can se my DVD in.......windows xp.....sob!)04:00
skaagnikkia: I know, maybe that's what i'll do04:00
nikkiaskaag, if they'll let you do that, i'd take the chance04:00
Bubbling_Zombiegantc, gimme a minut, gonna install kaffeine :')04:00
skaagnikkia: yah they are really cool people04:01
nikkiaskaag, the ATI drivers are nothing but a hassle, and the nvidia stuff *generally* tends to run a little faster in linux anyway04:01
gantcI thank you very much zombie04:01
skaagnikkia: They are a shop that deals with PC, Mac, Linux, so they try to be helpful04:01
skaagBubbling_Zombie: ok fglrx-driver is installed04:01
Bubbling_Zombiesudo modprobe fglxr04:02
Bubbling_Zombiesudo modprobe fglrx better04:02
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skaagok the module is loaded04:04
Bubbling_Zombieok04:04
nikkiagah, k3b annoys me04:04
nikkiait has a habit of failing verify because of unicode filenames04:05
skaagBubbling_Zombie: It notified that the ATI driver is proprietary and will taint the kernel04:05
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Bubbling_Zombiein your /etc/X11/xorg.conf what does the "driver"  part of your device say?04:05
Bubbling_Zombieit has to be fglrx04:05
skaagchecking04:05
Bubbling_Zombiethat's normal.04:05
mrabtiHow i can Remouve The My computer Icone In Kde Barre And Put It in Desktop 04:06
skaagit was ati, I replaced it with fglrx04:06
Bubbling_Zombieok04:06
Bubbling_Zombieretry sudo kdm04:06
skaaggoing to try to restart kd04:06
skaagm04:06
Bubbling_Zombiek04:06
skaagno go04:06
Bubbling_Zombieow04:06
skaagbut I think that's related to those monitor frequency settings missing04:06
mrabtiPlease How Can I do This 04:06
Bubbling_Zombieyeah skaag04:06
Bubbling_Zombiewait a minute04:07
Bubbling_Zombiesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:07
skaagno that wasn't it.. ok i'm waiting04:07
skaagok04:07
McScruffI Love Foo Fighters04:07
Bubbling_Zombieit's gonna walk you through a setup04:07
Bubbling_Zombieyou'll see04:07
skaagyes I found fglrx and it found the ATI card04:08
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gantcmrabti.....just left click on the icon and slide it on the desktop04:08
skaagshould I use the kernel framebuffer interface?04:08
Bubbling_Zombieno clue for ati. read the description and take the safest bet04:09
skaagBTW I see my v4l module is not enabled, can I enable it?04:09
skaagyes I took the safer bet04:09
Bubbling_Zombiedepends on your setup :)04:09
mrabtiIt doesn't Work 04:09
skaagBubbling_Zombie: doesn't work :-(04:10
Bubbling_Zombietry04:10
Bubbling_Zombiesudo killall kdm04:10
Bubbling_Zombiesudo kdm04:10
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skaagah but now it's the frequency lines missing04:10
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Bubbling_Zombietry inserting them?04:11
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skaagI inserted them04:11
skaagno good04:11
skaagI killed all previous kdm instances04:12
gantcit is possible tha your  configuration does't allow programs in the desktop.....try with a normal file first04:12
McScruffis GStreamer good for amarok04:12
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epWhat can I use to play ogg or wav files from the command line?04:12
mrabtiWith A Normal File It work 04:12
gantcwell mrabti......04:12
mrabtiBut Trash Or System doesn't Work 04:13
McScruffwhats the best sound engine04:13
gantcnow you can configure your destop setting.......04:13
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skaagBubbling_Zombie: I don't understand, running xorgcfg with no -textmode parameter gives me a nice graphical X background, with a working mouse pointer04:13
Bubbling_Zombieyeah04:13
skaagBubbling_Zombie: But kdm won't start! :-o04:13
skaagfor me, that does not make much sense04:13
Bubbling_Zombiemmm04:13
Bubbling_Zombieto me neither04:13
Bubbling_Zombie:p04:13
McScruffbbl work needs me :(04:13
Bubbling_Zombieoh, btw gantc : for your dvd: go to "Settings" -> "Xine engine parameters" -> "Media" -> and change dvd device to /dev/cdrom04:14
gantcok zombie04:15
Bubbling_Zombieand skaag. Try making a .xinitrc file in your home directory and put startkde in it04:15
Bubbling_Zombiesee if _that_ starts04:15
Bubbling_Zombie(with startx)04:15
skaagok it works now04:16
skaagi disabled the usage of the kernel's framebuffer device interface04:16
skaagthat's all it was04:16
Bubbling_Zombiekdm works?04:16
skaagso now it's working with fglrx04:16
skaagyes04:16
skaagi'm moving to X based IRC, brb04:16
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bogahow do I make kubuntu see a digital usb camera?04:23
insanekaneit already should i think04:24
insanekaneboga: after plugging it in ... did you open Storage Media ?04:24
bogayes and nothing is there!04:25
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SkaagIt's nice to at last see the GL Screensavers working :-)04:25
insanekanehmm04:25
SkaagBubbling_Zombie: Thanks for the help man!04:25
Bubbling_Zombienp04:25
Skaagit still is not very stable04:25
Bubbling_Zombiemm?04:25
SkaagI tried switching to console and back and the whole box froze04:25
insanekanei think there is something related to digital cameras in Control Centre -> System Administration or Peripherals ?04:25
SkaagBubbling_Zombie: Also I can no longer access the display control panel that allows me to switch resolutions04:27
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supernix  Yo wassup04:27
insanekaneboga: i think there is something related to digital cameras in Control Centre -> System Administration or Peripherals ?04:27
Bubbling_Zombieoh great <_<04:27
Bubbling_Zombiesounds like a driver issue to me. Unfortun. i'm on a nvidia card and know jack **** about radeon...04:28
Skaag:-)04:28
SkaagIt says my RANDR extension is not installe04:28
Skaagd04:28
Bubbling_Zombiemmm, i'm gonna google around a bit04:29
Skaagme too04:29
Skaagnow it's easier04:29
supernixWhen I try to view a page with flash using mozilla it causing Mozilla to crach any ideas what is up /04:29
supernixcrash*04:31
Bubbling_ZombieSkaag, you're not a dutch speaker by any chance. I found a dutch guide ^-^04:31
m01any ideas why kynaptic or apt-get wont install mozilla for me?04:32
Skaagno but google can convert04:32
Skaagand I can understand a bit of dutch, but just a bit04:32
buzsupernix same here04:32
Bubbling_Zombie:')04:32
buzi gave up on it :(04:32
Bubbling_ZombieSkaag, try the wiki?04:35
Skaagwhat wiki?04:35
Bubbling_Zombieubuntu04:35
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Skaagah04:36
clemuxhello04:36
Skaagchecking04:36
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clemuxhappy birthday spiral :)04:36
spiralclemux: shut up04:36
Hikaru79Just wanted to congratulate everyone here who is on the dev team, on a job very well done! 04:36
Skaagspiral: happy birthday04:36
Skaag:-)04:36
spiralSkaag: grrrmpf04:37
Skaag:->04:37
Bubbling_Zombie:')04:37
Bubbling_Zombiehappy birthday spiral <304:37
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Skaaghm... only xmms will play my flac files, amarok doesn't know what to do with them04:39
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Hikaru79Is anyone else having problems with Kate?05:00
Hikaru79I just installed Kubuntu, on a fresh install, but Kate keeps giving:05:00
Hikaru79hikaru79@tux:~$ kate05:01
Hikaru79kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.05:01
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m01is there a problem with kubuntu's default repository?05:13
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apokryphosm01: nope05:20
uniqus.archive.ubuntu.com does have some problems, doesn't it? 05:20
apokryphosIt does sometimes, yeah. 05:21
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m01i just installed kubuntu last night, im getting MD5Sum mismatchs on dependent packages,  im trying to install firefox05:28
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uniqm01: execute this command in the shell: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list05:30
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uniqm01: did you get that? 05:32
m01yea i input it05:34
m01thanks05:34
uniqgood.05:34
m01still having no luck05:34
uniqdo you use kynaptic? 05:34
m01ive tried kynaptic and using the apt-get command from the terminal, same results with both05:35
uniqand now you get the same error? 05:35
uniqdid you execute 'apt-get update' ? 05:35
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m01i beleive i tried that at some point05:36
paxgood morning people05:36
uniqafter changing /etc/apt/sources.list05:36
uniqhi pax.05:36
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tuxJr_14does kubuntu use a monolithic kernel?05:37
tuxJr_14atleast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu says so05:37
m01i think I have luck!05:37
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buzsome stuff is compiled statically, a lot is just modules05:38
uniqtuxjr_14: everything is modules. the kernel itself isn't that huge.05:38
m01it installed, it gave me an error when i first started firefox though05:38
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apokryphosuniq: any idea where the default archive.ubu... is located?05:39
paxzambia05:39
paxjust kidding.05:39
buzengland i guess05:40
uniqlondon.05:40
uniqsays traceroute.05:40
buzyeah london05:40
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m01Thanks uniq, im all good, ur the man!05:40
apokryphosReally? Hmm. I should use that then instead of the gb.archive nice05:40
buzmhh no zlib fix so far :(05:40
uniqyou're welcome m01.05:40
paxso uniq, you learned about the last bug?05:40
paxlast as in the command05:41
uniqyes. i've seen the bugreport and the mail.05:41
paxthat freaked me out man05:41
paxI went nuts :(05:41
tuxJr_14uniq, i think someone should update wikipedia on that05:42
uniqtuxjr_14: well.. linux is monolithic. but most drivers are modules. it's not like it's a microkernel05:43
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paxfirefox %u in Kcontrol > Component > Browse doesnt get you focus, why?05:53
paxbrowser*05:53
seth_kdoes for me, but I just use "in an app based on the contents of the URL"05:55
seth_kand make fox default05:55
paxhow the hell are you seth_k :)05:55
seth_kno different from 12 hours ago :P05:56
seth_kget a response to your bug yet?05:56
paxyes I did. 05:56
seth_kexcellent, what's the word05:56
seth_kor just a link if you want05:56
paxhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892505:56
paxhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8254005:57
paxhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9865905:57
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paxwb05:58
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seth_kgood, so it's a memory leak rather than a hax0r05:59
seth_kand the good news is it is fixed in devel05:59
seth_kbecause my copy shows the expected results, blanks05:59
paxno russian hax0r sux0red my bax0r05:59
paxseth_k: some people get it some dont.05:59
paxregardless of the release.06:00
seth_khmm06:00
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seth_kgotta run to church, back in a bit06:01
paxgod bless06:01
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yozguys.. when I try to change to admin mode in kde's control center I get redirected to it's welcome page any clue what's wrong there?06:07
apokryphosyoz: known bug06:07
sproingieyoz: it's a bug.  get 3.4.106:07
apokryphoscheck the guide06:07
apokryphossproingie: I think it's still happening for some like that in 3.4.1 06:08
yozpfff. shitty.06:08
sproingiebleah06:08
sproingiehasn't hit me yet 06:08
yozis it possible to upgrade it via apt?06:08
sproingietry using settings:/ instead of kcontrol06:08
paxyoz: I get that too, sometimes.06:08
sproingiethat sometimes works for me06:09
apokryphosyoz: you can still get around it, as the guide suggests. Run kdesu kcontrol06:09
yozsproingie: lemme check.06:09
sproingieyoz: see the topic, last url06:09
yozapokryphos: yeap..06:09
apokryphosyoz: then you'll be in administrator mode06:09
paxkdesu seems to cure many kde apps problems06:10
yozapokryphos: thanks alot.06:10
yoz"Need to get 98.3MB of archives." mkay that's neat! 06:11
yozwhat I'm trying to do is to modify a karamba theme which should fit my needs.. though the fontcolor is sucky and I really cannot change it. 06:13
yozdo you guys tried to modify one and such?06:14
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apokryphosyoz: should be pretty easy from the .theme file06:15
paxyoz: kramba/superkaramba themes are text files.06:15
apokryphosRight-click > Edit theme  and just look for the font specifications06:16
yozapokryphos: yeah.. that's what makes me ponder since I change the line let's say color=0,0,0 which is displayed in black to color=5,5,5 but nothing happes after reloading the theme.06:18
gdh5,5,5 will be so dark grey it's almost black06:18
apokryphosyeah06:19
yozsince my wallpaper is black and the font black as well I'd like to have it white.06:19
yozgdh: what's white then?06:19
gdhtry 255,255,255 thing06:19
gdhs/thing/then/06:19
yozlemme try.06:19
yozgdh: looks much better now.. any clue what a dark grey is as code?06:21
apokryphosyoz: kcoloredit06:21
yozapokryphos: cool06:21
gdhyoz: probably about 40,40,4006:21
gdhjsut adjust the values until you get one you like :)06:21
yozgdh: yeap ;) thanks for your help!06:21
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penguinboymorning, geeks, nerds, and Linux gurus!!!06:22
yozkcoloredit is not installed here.. *sigh*06:23
yozgdh: you were quite right ;) guessed?06:23
apokryphosyoz: sudo apt-get install kcoloredit ;-)06:23
yozapokryphos: I tried yet, though my source list doesn't fit that ;) it can't be found.. 06:24
apokryphoshm, do you have universe/multiverse enabled?06:24
yozapokryphos: I do.. not on every line.. lemme add it and I try again!06:26
apokryphosyeah, it's in Universe06:27
apokryphoshandy lil' prog06:27
yozI do believe.. btw I like this way ubuntu is managing this stuff with restricted, universe, multiverse pretty cool..06:28
delltonycan someone look at this http://pastebin.com/310406 and explain to me what needs to be done to get the mplayer too compile?06:29
apokryphosyeah, they're kind of necessary. Main is officially supported stuff, Universe and Multiverse is not, while Multiverse also has things that don't meet the Ubuntu "main" Component Licence Policy06:30
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apokryphosdelltony: Heh. I got a similar error on trying to compile kdebase. I've had a bug report out there for quite some time now, a post on LinuxQuestions, and post on the mailing list, but no luck yet06:31
delltonythanks06:32
yozapokryphos: I installed.. got my color how do I know what info to grab out there?  H R S G V B...06:32
delltonyjust trying like hell to get libmp3lame too compile nt t06:32
delltonyso i can mencode dvds to xvid with mp3 support06:33
apokryphosyoz: just take the R, G, B values respectively06:33
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yozapokryphos: mkay.. makes sense..06:34
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yozapokryphos: another question.. I'd like to start a theme on startup.. I created a file in .kde/Autostart/ with the following entry: karamba /home/yoz/super_user/karamba_themes/kstatus/kstatus.theme but it doesn't work.. how to I execute it on startup?06:48
yozah and #!/bin/bash at the top.06:48
uniqis it set executable? 06:49
apokryphosyoz: you shouldn't need to do that. If you leave skaramba running when you log out, it should open up automatically next session06:49
apokryphosalso, the executable is superkaramba (not karamba) :)06:49
yozapokryphos: I did actually.. should I restart current session?06:49
apokryphosyoz: remove that stuff from the Autostart/ and try it out, yeah.06:50
yozok.. brb.06:50
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yozapokryphos: it's shitty.. karamba crashes when I end current session =/06:53
yozapokryphos: I removed it, purged it, and reinstalled it but it keeps crashing!06:54
apokryphosweird. Does it crash without you ending current session? What version are you running there? 0.36, I take it?06:54
yozapokryphos: karamba: 0.17 hmm wtf.06:55
apokryphoshaha. Not even superkaramba? What are you doing :P06:55
apokryphoswhy not use the repositories? :)06:55
yozI did.. I thought karamba and superkaramba are the same.. hold on ;)06:56
apokryphosI think it became superkaramba after version 0.17 actually, or something06:56
yozgood to know. ;) apt's doing his job rigth now.06:56
yozmuch better now.. I'm out to check it again!06:57
apokryphosI think it would be hard to find a decent theme that uses plain karamba, funnily enough 8)06:59
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yozapokryphos: works fine now.. and my desktop looks good 8) thanks for your help!07:04
apokryphosCool; no problem. 07:05
yozapokryphos: http://yoz.projectosiris.net/data/screenshots/kubuntu1.png ;)07:07
apokryphosVery nice. Is that Borealis or something like that?07:07
apokryphosUsed it once in the past. Converted the xmms nonsense to amarok, as I recall ;-)07:08
yozapokryphos: which one? the theme you mean?07:08
apokryphosyour icon theme is keeping you back though :P. There's better ones out there. 07:08
apokryphosyoz: yup07:08
yozapokryphos: neah it's kstatus.. and you mean the greenish one as kicon in the tray?07:08
apokryphosyoz: no, as in the superkaramba theme07:09
supernix Hi anyone know how to verfiry the symlink for the mozilla flash plugin ?07:09
yozapokryphos: ah.. where should I look for better one?07:10
apokryphossupernix: ls -l07:10
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apokryphosyoz: no, I didn't say it was bad... just wondering what the name was07:10
apokryphosAs I said, I used an a slightly altered one in the past07:10
yozapokryphos: kstatus got it from kde-look as I recall.07:10
_shawnI've been wondering why did they change the name to superkaramba is it just cuz it sounds cooler?07:10
apokryphosIcon theme could do with changing ;-). kdelook.org is the best place for all icandy on KDE07:10
apokryphos_shawn: super coolness, I guess :P07:11
yozapokryphos: I'm about to check them ;)07:11
supernixwhere do i kook07:11
supernixlook*07:11
apokryphosyoz: I'm pretty sure the skaramba theme there isn't called kstatus...07:11
yozapokryphos: wait..07:11
apokryphossupernix: cd to the directory that it's in, then ls -l 07:11
supernixah ok07:11
yozapokryphos: yoz@hp:~/pics/screens$ ls /home/yoz/super_user/karamba_themes/kstatus/07:11
yozapokryphos: no idea then.. that's what I get when I untar'ed it.07:12
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apokryphosyoz: Ah, my mistake, so it is. 07:12
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yoz*grin*07:12
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yoz=P07:13
supernixwell i see it in /us/lib/mozilla/plugins07:13
apokryphossupernix: if the sym link is broken it should flash when you do an ls; red, I think07:13
apokryphossupernix: what are you trying to get it working for, firefox?07:14
supernixi wish07:14
supernixtrying to get it in mozilla07:14
apokryphossupernix: installing libflash-mozplugin and flashplayer-mozilla didn't do the trick?07:15
supernixnope07:15
apokryphosactually, I think the former is just an alternate of the latter07:15
apokryphosMozilla should check in something like ~/.mozilla/plugins for it -- is it there?07:15
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supernixI tried to isntall FIrefox but it talked about wanting to install gnome components and so I backed down07:16
supernixI like Firefox better than Mozilla and I see the plugins in the Mozilla plugin info page07:16
apokryphossupernix: That's if you get it from the repos. If you manually install it (easiest one ever.. no compiling), then you'll be alright.07:16
apokryphosThough I'd easily use Konqueror or Opera before Firefox or Mozilla07:16
apokryphosp.s. flash works fine in my mozilla here...07:17
supernixI get the flash fine with Konqueror but when I was looking at the Zaxby site the links would not work even though the flash did07:17
supernixapokryphos, where do you recommend getting the installer for Firefox then ?07:18
apokryphosthere's an easy guide on the wiki; one sec07:18
apokryphoshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox07:18
supernixLOL I went to shockwave.com with Mozilla and crashed that sucker imediately on page load07:19
apokryphoshehe07:19
supernixSo let me get this straight you prefer Konqueror over Firefox ?07:19
apokryphos1000%, yes07:20
apokryphos(Opera, definitely, too)07:20
apokryphosshockwave.com loads fine in Mozilla here :P07:20
apokryphosperhaps some of the plugins aren't configured properly, I'd imagine07:20
apokryphosKonqueror is faster: both as starting up and as loading pages; KDE intergration is great too, of course.07:21
apokryphosOnly thing I think FF did great was their search. Clean, not intrusive/obstructive, convenient07:22
gdhyum, telling KDE to keep a Konq preloaded is lovely - click and a browser is instantly on-screen :)07:22
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supernixah man I went to that wiki page and now it crashed Konqueror I can't get it to close either07:26
apokryphossupernix: odd. Just killall konqueror if need be07:28
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supernixman everything got freaky just then07:32
supernixI had to run ctrl+alt+backspace to recover07:33
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apokryphoseek07:36
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supernixwhat was that URL again ?07:42
gdh[18:18]  <apokryphos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox07:42
gdh?07:42
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supernixty very much not sure why that was not in my URL grabber in Xchat07:43
apokryphosgdh: Hm, I thought that it didn't require GTK. Not exactly sure why... trying to think what else it would use (more troublesome is the fact that it's a GTK app)07:44
apokryphossupernix: so installing it that way would actually be pretty useless for you, if you don't want any GTK stuff. Sorry :-S07:45
gdhapokryphos: You'd think that a 10MB binary package might include its own private fork of GTK.. but no, it's just a web browser :)07:45
apokryphosgdh: it does have a snazzy installer though :P07:45
apokryphosTo tell you the truth, I find those more annoying. Much rather have a simple .deb that works straight away07:46
gdhhaving GTK installed is no issue, it's just a handful of libraries in /usr/lib ... I can understand not wanting GNOME libs / daemons / gconf etc. running, though07:46
supernixI honestly don't know what GTK is yet07:46
gdhGTK is to GNOME what Qt is to KDE :) - it's the underlying UI toolkit07:47
gdhdealing with all the buttons / dialogs, etc.07:47
supernixOIC07:47
apokryphosgdh: only real reason I'd say is if you're low on space07:48
supernixseems like if it were built on GTK then it would not work well in KDE since it uses QT07:48
apokryphossupernix: it would work fine, but would take longer to load etc.07:48
supernixah07:48
supernixbut once it loaded would it still run good ?07:49
apokryphosQt is of course better than GTK :P07:49
apokryphosIt runs ok. I still wouldn't really use it though07:49
supernix:D makes me feel better for choosing KDE over Gnome then07:49
apokryphosyou can make the GTK apps look pretty still though in KDE now with the engine07:49
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_thomasevening08:16
uniqhi.08:16
_thomasI search for a programm like fireworks under win08:16
uniqwhat does it do? 08:16
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uniqlike macromedia fireworks? 08:17
_thomasI can create graphic and i can create slices for web publishing08:17
_thomasyes08:17
_thomasI have found pixel32, but it is not under the GPL08:18
insanekanei think GIMP has that feature08:19
_thomasis that a plugin?08:20
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uniq_thomas: gimp is a image manipulator program. http://gimp.org/08:25
uniqyou can install it from the kynaptic package manager.08:25
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_thomasis that a plugin for gimp08:33
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_thomaswhere can I find it?08:39
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chxI plan to buy a Razer Diamondback mouse. Anyone using that under Kubuntu?08:50
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NachIs there a list somewhere of what comes on your Live CD?08:53
RiddellNach: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-live-i386.list08:56
NachDo you have an AMD64 CD?08:58
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Nachoh, no GCC, oh well, nevermind08:58
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Ret1n4lI'm looking for a system for documents like CVS. will CVS do controlled access to versions of documents? or is there something else just for documents?09:02
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RiddellRet1n4l: CVS will do fine (as will Subversion or baz etc etc)09:14
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Ret1n4lRidell: thanks much09:19
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fumbalahI want to setup a local ubuntu mirror, does anyone know of a script I can use to update it every night09:36
Riddellfumbalah: rsync on cron?09:37
fumbalahNever been that great on writing cron jobs, but I guess it's worth a shot09:37
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Computer__Gurujust needed to underline your routine with a little exercise?09:42
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Computer__Guruthat sucked09:55
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ZugwrackHey everyone...wow too cool..Kubuntu for PPC! Ok some minor problems...no sound and more importantly no routing to the internet...10:08
ZugwrackI edited the network settings gave a static ip..saw that the gateway was reversed...checked the dns it is ok...I can ping to the router not out to the world..so I am booted into OS X to get assistance10:09
buzairport express cards aren't suported10:09
Zugwrackbuz: I am not using an airport card....it is the builtin that came in my dual G410:09
buzmhh that should work10:09
buzafter giving static ip, did you fix routing?10:10
Zugwrackthe gateway was reversed so yes I changed it from(no this is not my router gateway ip) 101.1.10.10 to the other way around...10:11
Zugwrack10.10.1.10110:11
buzcan you do a netstat -r?10:11
ZugwrackI know the nic is up and working cuz I can ping the gateway ip10:11
buzsounds a lot like a routing issue10:12
ZugwrackYes.....how about sound?10:12
buzno idea10:12
Zugwrackanyone here had sound problems on PPC?10:12
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ZugwrackJust wanted to report that kubuntu if fskded on PPC....I booted back in after asking a question...saw a name resolution error on boot...went into the network interface settings...tried to use administrator mode...it would accept my password..and then not let me in to edit anything....it sucks10:26
ZugwrackI will install the gnome version it works10:26
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MikeStylehow would i install java on firefox in kubuntu10:27
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kkathmanHas anyone taken KOffice 1.4 for a spin yet to see if its useable?10:38
buzmhh if you dont expect it to import word files, yes10:38
kkathmanhmmm..well, I cant see that really as being really significant, because there isnt much way you'd get compatibility anyway because of fonts10:39
gdhno never mind about right fonts / layout. 80% of the .docs I try to open cause KWord to freeze :)10:40
kkathmanewwwwww thats not good10:40
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kkathmanwhat about its own documents?10:40
gdhwhizzes through a progress gauge up to 100% then does nothing until I kill it.. same thing on multiple fresh installs.10:41
gdhkkathman: Who uses those? :)10:41
kkathmanhehe10:41
gdhI'm living in the real world, here :)10:41
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kkathmanwell true I understand gdh, but I've made similar statements and got crucified because of em .. I live in the real world too :)10:41
gdhSo I have to wait for the behemoth OO Writer to grind inexorably into 'action'10:41
gdh:)10:42
kkathmanI have so tried to move my web development into Linux but I just cant find anything as productive as what I've built on my Windows box10:43
kkathmanNot that the tools are bad in Linux mind you...they arent bad at all, but for me Dreamweaver is so productive for me, even with some of its idiosynchricies :)10:44
gdhaye, DW is the impossible one with Wine :)10:45
kkathmanyep...my mainstays in Web development are DW and Photoshop and neither does that well under Wine.10:45
painesqt4 for kubuntu ?!?! wow10:48
painesbut, is anything linked against it yet ?10:49
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yozevening geeks..10:50
yozguys.. got a german keyboard here. set the layout to german as well though I have no pipe key.. it seems to be disabled at all.. any clue here?10:51
painesyoz, du musst in der xorg.conf bei optionen nodeadkeys angeben10:52
paines Option          "XkbOptions"    "nodeadkeys"10:52
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yozpaines: ah das habe ich mir fast gedacht.10:52
yozpaines: gut zu wissen das hier auch deutsch gesprochen wird ;)10:52
yozs/das/dass10:52
yozpaines: wo finde ich das genau?10:53
yozpaines: gibts ein men dafr?10:53
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yozpaines: oder in der konsole?10:53
painesyoz: ne hier wird eigantlich englisch gequaselt, aber ich machs gerade nur damit es schneller geht10:54
painesnee. das musst du per hand einfgen10:54
painessorry guys, i just described him how to do it in german10:55
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fromozeHi, I 'm trying breezy and I see there's a big bug on qt: I can't write tildes over the lettres... 10:59
fromozeothers toolkits work normally11:00
fromozeIt's  known bug?11:01
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kismet-nohdhas anyone managed to use a pcmcia Prism2 card with kismet *monitor mode* running off CD on a laptop with NO hard drive?11:02
paineskismet-nohd: yes, with auditor distribution11:03
kismet-nohdsorry, i do not understand11:04
painesi used kismet with the linux auditor distribution together with an prism2 card11:05
kismet-nohddid you have to edit kismet.conf or download/compile any extra software to be able to use kismet on monitor mode?11:06
painesgood question, that was some while ago11:07
painesreally can't remeber11:07
kismet-nohdhow long ago??11:07
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yozpaines: did that, even did a reboot but this key is still disabled.. *sigh*11:08
paineskismet-nohd: almost a year i think11:09
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alexissofthi11:19
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fumbalahis there anyway to ignore a md5sum mismatch11:56
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fumbalahI cant install gaim or firefox because apt is giving that error on a package11:56
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