[12:05] ztonzy: i was suggesting ALL blender users are weird.... [12:05] and he asked for some spanish users...but it is only english in that channel [12:06] nikkia, you werent there so how could you possible know what happened ? [12:06] nikkia, tell that to creators... ;) === unome just found out his system is compromised :( [12:07] ztonzy: i'm sure they hear it all the time, along with 'make an interface that makes sense!' :) [12:07] apokryphos, and I did a whois...turns out he was in #gay #bisexuales too ;) [12:07] nikkia, learn alien languge! [12:07] hhahaha === _shawn [~shawn@CPE000c4173abd7-CM000a7365735e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nomeansyes [~tricoma@157.Red-83-37-68.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:07] nikkia, bad excuse would I say [12:07] hmm, no-one else in there. Darn. [12:07] apokryphos, haha [12:08] ztonzy: how's your blender stuff going? Wouldn't have seen any in ages :P [12:08] apokryphos, mine? it is quite quiet :P [12:08] oh :-O [12:09] ztonzy: how about that character of yours? [12:09] apokryphos, but development are now progressing fast...especially in animationpart [12:09] nice [12:09] apokryphos, character is finished...just need to rig it...which is not easy task always [12:09] I'm spaniard [12:10] http://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43975 my work :) [12:10] I can count to ten in Spanish :P. Impressive, I know. === apokryphos looks [12:10] fromoze, nice [12:10] apokryphos, I think I have shown you it before [12:10] ztonzy: wow, he's progressed a lot [12:10] XD [12:10] apokryphos, ah...maybe I didnt show you... [12:10] I must know how to do it in greek... but I don't remember... [12:11] ztonzy: I saw him when he was just a model: blue === ricardo [~ricardo@195-23-157-203.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] apokryphos, yes, didnt like the blue/Captain america look...wanted a own colortheme [12:11] fromoze: ena, dio, tria, tesera... 8) [12:11] for you is easy XD === _mike [~mike@ip68-101-255-230.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] ztonzy: He looks more slick like that, but not as happy ;-) [12:12] apokryphos, main blender coder have just recoded bone animation system to be way faster now [12:12] apropos, someone creates the #kubuntu-es channel... but we're only two habitants for the moment :/ [12:12] #ubuntu-es is more popular, isn't it? [12:12] Yeah, so I see. [12:13] yes [12:13] and someone has logbots in those channels [12:13] <_mike> uhm in the main account im on my speakers work. but when my dad logs into his account it cant dectect his device. [12:13] but not in #kubuntu === thr1ce [~andrew@thr1ce.user] has joined #kubuntu === ricardo [~ricardo@195-23-157-203.net.novis.pt] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === thr1ce [~andrew@thr1ce.user] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-157-203.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] does anyone know how to enable 'automatically select filename extension' in the kde save dialog box? [12:14] it's greyed out [12:14] #kubuntu gets logged though === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-157-203.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ [12:14] <_mike> anyone know how to solve my problem [12:14] apokryphos, ok [12:14] Your dad doesn't need sound anyway. :> [12:15] ah yes... ubuntulog is in here [12:15] we should get ubotu in here too, I'm going to suggest that [12:15] <_mike> yea he does. he needs it cuz hes a musician and uploads and downloads sound trakcs and stuff [12:16] apokryphos, thanks that you liked the finished model :o) [12:16] I'm out on a limb here, but I think it's that the rights for the devices aren't set up properly [12:16] when i add an user with kuser... can this user use aptitude and such things (where sudo is neccesary)? [12:16] ztonzy: very flash indeed, yup. ;-) [12:16] heeh [12:16] apokryphos, feel free to download it... [12:16] Heart: if you allow them to, yes. On the process of doing that check the Kubuntu guide [12:16] What's the default path for the sound device anyway? [12:17] ztonzy: I helped myself already :P [12:17] apokryphos, as long as my name and all is still there ;) [12:17] 'course [12:17] apokryphos: do you have a url for me please? [12:17] Great, the guy leaves. [12:17] must I notice the conflits between xorg-common and x-common? must I create a bug? [12:17] Heart: it's in /topic [12:18] Heart: precise part: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#sudomore === _mika [~mika@ACB44B5D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] Anyhow, that's what I'm guessing. [12:19] fromoze: Nah... breezy isn't in use for the "public" at all, yet. === Heart_ [~jzdgc@p549C3BB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] I think so [12:20] woops [12:20] So, when is Potty Porcupine going to be released? [12:20] Official is in October sometime [12:20] Since we have Warty Warthog and Hoary Hedgehog. :p [12:20] October :) [12:20] they're going to recommend beta use soon though [12:20] Breezy Badger :) [12:22] I'm still at a loss why the homepna support is so poorly arranged in all the newer distros. It's not fun trudging through text files to get it to work. [12:22] And I'm going to leave my computer alone for many time soon :) I must try a little breezy before XD [12:22] apokryphos: in the visudo-file there is no line for this user but this user can do "sudo " !? [12:22] And every distro with kernel 2.4 has the support so that makes it even more puzzling [12:23] Heart_: if there's no line for them, creat eone [12:24] *create one [12:24] hm, this user shouldn't be able to do sudo commands [12:24] Then don't let them :) [12:25] ;) how? [12:26] Heart_: by default they won't have sudo access [12:26] I guess nobody is able to answer that. :> [12:26] hm as i said, i created an user with kUser and this user can do sudo commands... (no line in visudo file for this user) [12:27] oh, sorry, misread it. [12:28] Not sure why it's doing that. That's actually a bug, if it does [12:29] apokryphos, i compiled this kde applet with prefix usr and it works fine, but i noticed on the site it said this was recommended for deb users: [12:29] ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/kde3/ [12:29] do i need to add the lib dir as well? [12:30] mcquaid: there's no harm in it, but I don't think you have to [12:30] since you've already specified the $KDEDIRS there [12:30] ok [12:31] Heart_: I've always used useradd... [12:31] in console [12:31] yup [12:32] Heart_: hm, I just added a new user with kuser and it hasn't given them sudo powers... [12:32] you logged in with this new user and tested it? [12:33] Heart_: nope, just through konsole; I don't logging into KDE would change it.. [12:34] k thx... hmmm strange thing === The_bellman [~rjs@dsl.shannon.id.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] hm, tested it again with "ctrl+alt+F2" > logged in as this user > done "sudo aptitude" for example and it works :( === reuben [~reu@reuben.developer.kde] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] where should java be installed? === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] Heart_: what if you make a new user, then in ksonole: su - {newuser}.. .and then try a sudo command? (without having logged in with them)? [12:46] reuben: to the executable? /usr/bin/java of course [12:51] reuben: best way to have installed java is probably: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre [12:51] apokryphos: works too [12:52] Heart_: and this is with useradd? Odd. Definitely doesn't do it for me... === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] k, took the user I've made with kuser [12:53] Heart_: try su to them in konsole before physically logging into KDE [12:55] make sure you do su - {newuser} (with the "-" ) [12:55] yes === nikkia is tempted to suspect something wrong with Heart_'s sudoers file [12:56] ie, its letting *everyone* sudo [12:56] shall i post /etc/sudoers file? [12:56] ahhhh, wait [12:57] Heart_: can you paste the results of 'id' as that user? [12:57] ? [12:57] Heart_: su to the new user, and type 'id' === nikkia will wager that the new user is a member of group 109 :) [12:58] oh yes, it is [12:58] then it's clear [12:58] thx nikkia [12:58] np [01:00] i discovered a rather amusing exploit in KDE earlier [01:01] nikkia: shoot =) [01:01] which is [01:01] i ssh -X'ed to my desktop, from my laptop, and ran kcontrol, to change my desktop sharing properties, cos i normally leave it turned off... [01:02] after running kcontrol, somehow, KDE was redirecting all popups to my ssh -X'ed connection, so i could vnc to the desktop, and get the 'allow remote user?' dialog on the laptop's screen [01:02] :-S [01:03] i think it was because when i ran kcontrol over the ssh, it didn't see a valid KDE running against that screen, so did the kbuildsyscoca stuff that normally happens if you run a KDE app outside KDE [01:04] actually, i've just realised what was happening, ignore me :) [01:04] it WAS trying to connect to vnc on my desktop, but it was a fake desktop for :10.0 that it was trying to connect to [01:05] so there wasn't really anything exploitable - i couldn't have regained control over a konsole left su'ed for example [01:23] erk [01:23] slashdot just stopped accepting http connections [01:23] oops, no, my router died :P === Ixion83 [~Ixion83@lns-vlq-26-nic-82-254-169-226.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _root [~root@69.51.138.133] has joined #kubuntu === _root [~root@69.51.138.133] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === pelleas [~root@69.51.138.133] has joined #kubuntu === rory [~rory@i-195-137-94-174.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu === rory [~rory@i-195-137-94-174.freedom2surf.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === boga [~judith@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === rory [~Beast@i-195-137-94-174.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu === Beast [~Beast@i-195-137-94-174.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] just installed kubuntu - was previously a mandrake 9.1 .... 10.1 user [02:05] very impressed with kubuntu [02:07] Beast: I was unimpressed by the fonts though! [02:07] and kynaptic! [02:10] kynaptic is the downfall for me :d [02:10] but it's being fixed for breezy [02:10] *dances and installs synaptic for now8 === dutch [~dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] Mez: fixed != replaced!? [02:15] yeah [02:15] kynaptic = kaboom in breezy [02:16] kaboom?! [02:17] being replaced by something else [02:17] k [02:18] something being done about the fonts too? === ecadre [~ecadre@dynamic-62-56-55-51.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Heart_ uses aptitude for that [02:22] Mez - whats wrong with kynaptic [02:22] only problem i find is with trying to build other apps [02:22] It's not got the functionality most people desire [02:23] e.g. search =) [02:23] it has search, just hard to find it in kynaptic (ctrl f IIFC) [02:23] s/IIFC/IIRC/ [02:23] Edit->Find ????? [02:23] the Windows Update-styled 'update manager' for GNOME is very pleasant [02:24] I think a K-ified version is destined for Breezy. [02:24] well, that lets you search by name only ... i'm used to being able to search descriptions and whatnot [02:25] oh wait, it has that to now [02:25] jesus. i need to check this out more often [02:25] :) === aseigo is now known as aseigo_xnore [02:26] Can you tell what is causing Kmail to exit signal 11 [02:27] i just wondered if there was a log I could see that was causing it ? [02:27] anybody upgraded to kde 3.4.1 ? [02:27] I have Beast [02:27] would like to get kopete working again [02:27] Did it this morning or somewhere like that [02:28] I still can't login to MSN don't know if it is me or it [02:28] what version of kopete ? [02:28] I think it is .10.2 [02:28] mmn - thought it was fixed [02:28] they said it was [02:28] but like I said it might still be me [02:29] how did u upgrade - i added the following to /etc/apt/sources.list ... [02:29] deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main === bbailey [~bbailey@adsl-149-127-185.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] then ran update all packages from kynaptic [02:30] I forgot who it was but someone told me a series of commands to run that would update it [02:30] ok, no worriesa === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === fromoze [~fromoze@81.172.88.18] has joined #kubuntu === m01 [~m01@adsl-156-222-52.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL [KaiL@p548F4D40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [~dw@host-84-9-34-2.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] join #kopete [02:49] whoop === _shawn [~shawn@CPE000c4173abd7-CM000a7365735e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] <_shawn> hi [02:52] <_shawn> I just upgraded amarok to CVS and it won't play streams with xine, any ideas? [02:52] <_shawn> *SVN [02:52] _shawn: it didn't compile with xine plugin [02:52] you need to have the xine and xine-devel packages [02:52] <_shawn> yes it did [02:53] <_shawn> I said it won't play stream it will play mp3s [02:53] Alright, I see. [02:54] _shawn: though that is more of an #amarok issue, I'd imagine -- you'd get more luck in there === bccs [~t7DS@201009084155.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] <_shawn> k === Heart_2 [~jzdgc@p549C27F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === penguinboy [~penguinbo@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:15] evening Geeks, Nerds, and Linux Gods [03:16] PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ someone help me I will bbl [03:16] hey penguinboy [03:16] whats up supernix [03:16] hey Reuben!!! [03:16] whats the prob supernix === CavalierBob [~bob@c-24-4-128-79.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] Welcome CavalierBob !!! [03:19] Thanks for the welcome! [03:23] anyone installed Sunbird yet? [03:23] hi cavalierbob [03:24] Hey reuben! :) [03:25] My desktop is currently live on http://reuben.myscreen.org/ feel free to check it out [03:25] ^^ was just testing something [03:26] wow, reuben on #blackdicks [03:26] lol === crimsun [~crimsun@24-180-151-103.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] i thought i'd hidden the adult content:P === dannya [~danny@dannya.developer.kde] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] kewl [03:30] i sit best to download GTK2-XFT or GTK1???? [03:30] is it [03:31] gtk2 may be more agreeable to you thematically [03:31] gracios === dannya [~danny@dannya.developer.kde] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === dstambou [~isaneo@60-240-156-98.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] are there any unofficial specialised kubuntu builds? [03:32] or official for that matter :) [03:32] specialised in what way? [03:32] optimised for certain arch? [03:32] I'm using the 5.04.3 live cd, which is pretty specialised [03:33] not that I know of [03:33] I'd like to try the install cd [03:33] then try the install cd, then install linux-686 [03:34] ah [03:34] oh and, I take ubuntu uses udev file management? [03:34] yes [03:34] how, for example, does it handle a usb mass storage device? [03:34] in a graphical way? [03:34] well, you're asking two different questions [03:34] do I have to modprobe/mount/etc [03:34] Kubuntu does use udev to manage devices, along with hotplug. [03:34] or when I plug it in, will it pop up? :) [03:35] if you plug in a USB thumb drive, for instance, it will appear on your KDE desktop automatically. [03:35] yes, the udev question was not meant to be related, by the way :) [03:35] goodo [03:35] 5.04 latest? Any workable devel builds? [03:36] not of Kubuntu but of Ubuntu, yes [03:36] I'm looking for a kde environment :) [03:36] 5.10 (Breezy) is the development branch currently [03:36] you can install kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, which will give you Kubuntu [03:37] pros and cons of doing so? [03:37] how will it differ from a kubuntu build? [03:37] if at all [03:37] it will have GNOME packages, too, which will differ from a default Kubuntu install [03:37] these can be removed at installation or after? [03:38] only after, and it's somewhat of a pain [03:38] ah [03:38] how so? [03:38] there's no easy way to remove all the GNOME packages in one command [03:38] an alternative is to install Hoary then dist-upgrade to Breezy [03:39] hoary kubuntu? [03:39] you need a fast Internet connection and much patience, though [03:39] Kubuntu Hoary, yes [03:39] mmm [03:39] Breezy is the development branch, after all. Things are broken and are expected to continue to be broken. [03:40] There is no support for the development branch. [03:40] I've run ~x86 development gentoo for a few years now, so I should be able to cope, hopefully :) [03:40] similar idea but different beast [03:41] and ubuntu package management is another repository on top of apt? Can I install deb packages? [03:42] Ubuntu packages are in repositories, which is the identical concept driving Debian. [03:42] You can easily install Ubuntu packages from Ubuntu repositories. [03:42] ah, they have to be specifically Ubuntu branded? [03:42] ie. like rpms mandrake/redhat [03:43] Installing Debian packages from non-Ubuntu repositories is neither supported nor recommended due to differing build dependencies and compiler versions used, etc. It is, however, possible to carefully mix Ubuntu and non-Ubuntu debs. [03:44] mm [03:45] further to that, is there a way to integrate packages built from source into my own apt tree? (not sure on the terminology - never used apt package management) [03:45] I see some 'advice' on the forums which advise people to get package X working then need packages A B and C from Debian, one of which is libc6... [03:45] ack [03:45] that's pretty much the reason I went to gentoo, was sick of all that rubbish from mandrake and rpms [03:45] dstambou: if you build your own debs on your Kubuntu machine, yes [03:45] and the lack of available software packages [03:46] dstambou: Does the whole gentoo thing not rely on /someone/ having made an 'ebuild' for that software though? [03:46] unfortunately, most people just want to grab whatever suits them without checking carefully whether they're actual Ubuntu packages [03:47] gdh: in a sense, it is very easy to edit/add a new ebuild though - can simply mean changing a few digits - and as the ebuild is simply a pointer to sources... very simple [03:47] don't have to wait for people to build, if ever [03:47] so a simple ebuild can be a couple of lines of bash scripting [03:47] does gentoo revolve around /usr/local ? (I've never used it) [03:47] gdh: not sure what you mean by 'revolve' ? [03:48] I suppose it wouldn't since everything would be site-local compilations... [03:48] heh :) [03:49] I don't mind building from source - there are binaries available for a lot of packages also [03:49] I would just like a more simplified system, where things 'just work' [03:49] that's the ultimate goal :) [03:49] remember that you're not exactly limited by repositories lacking a certain package you want [03:49] you can always download the deb-src and compile it on your Kubuntu install [03:50] (applies to any distro) [03:50] dstambou: indeed, debian makes it easy... apt-get build-dep will install all of the -dev packages required to recompile a given package. [03:51] dstambou: so if all you want is a newer version than what ships wih Kubuntu, you can get the build-dep, followed by apt-get source package, and re-use the debian/ directory with the latest tarball.. 99% of the time that will work fine :) [03:51] I will give it a go, let it download tonight when I sleep :) [03:51] end result: you get a home-made .deb of your new software :) [03:51] I will keep my gentoo install about, and see how we go [03:52] I've been very happy with the portage system [03:52] very versatile [03:53] crimsun: gdh: thank you kindly for your assistance, it has been much appreciated [03:53] No problem {:-) [03:53] yw, g'luck [03:54] if anything goes wrong, I will be back here to rant about :p [03:54] We have a /dev/null redirection for that =) === seth_k sets mode +devnull on dstambou [03:55] :P [03:56] http://ian.kluft.com/humor/devnull.html [03:56] : [03:56] /dev/null is vulnerable! hehe [03:58] nooooooo [03:58] hey [03:59] is there a Apollon package for kubunto? [03:59] kubuntu* [03:59] there is indeed [03:59] 1.0.1-1 is in hoary universe [04:00] great. tks. [04:00] up to 1.0.2 though :p [04:01] feh, Kubuntu was released 3 months ago, and frozen before then :) [04:01] I can backport it if you'd like? [04:01] package frozen? [04:01] universe freezes about halfway through a release cycle (autosync from Debian stops) [04:01] I think latest version of apollon I have is 1.0.2.1 [04:01] ah [04:01] e.g., Breezy autosync freeze was this week [04:01] wow :) [04:02] however, new packages will be entering universe all the way into october [04:02] we just have to manually request them over [04:02] seth_k: your name seems *very* familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it... would there be somewhere I would know you from? :) [04:02] ah [04:03] dstambou: not sure. InvisionFree, Neowin, UbuntuForums, A Small Orange, Invision Power? [04:03] those would be my top five hangouts [04:03] i'm also a fresh new Ubuntu member =D if you attend the CC meetings [04:04] I'm not sure, the name is tugging at the back of my mind... I'm sure it will come to me heh :) [04:04] need some coffee maybe [04:04] haha === seth_k backports krename [04:06] wwo renaming of the future comes to the present! :) [04:06] that's deep, gdh. real deep. ;) === gdh tangles with continua [04:07] I'm assuming that's the plural :) [04:08] goddamnit I have drunk entirely too slowly today. I am still perfectly sober. [04:09] No gdh, that's a good thing [04:09] Your liver will thank you [04:09] feh :) [04:10] I am clean-living, this is my only vice =) [04:10] Hm, did I just contradict myself there? === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] oy monchy [04:16] what's new === wezlo [~wallen@pcp09677374pcs.brlngt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] mm, krename 3.0.3-2build1 backported to Hoary [04:20] *rock* :) [04:21] just got in, went to the bar with some mates then saw war of the worlds [04:21] Is it any use? [04:22] I dunno about Tom Cruise as a concept in that :/ [04:23] i hear the ending is lame :( [04:23] special effects were ace but the rest was eh... [04:23] but there are lots of explosions :) [04:23] yea it was [04:23] real gay ending [04:24] batman begins made up for it though lol [04:24] haha, they had that on pirated DVD when I was in Mexico last week [04:24] 45 cents [04:24] sweet [04:24] did you get it? [04:24] leaves it open for 'war of the universe' - an apocalyptical epic about free software in an uncontrolled environment... [04:24] and 'Ubuntu - The Musical' === wezlo [~wallen@pcp09677374pcs.brlngt01.nj.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu === pax [~pax@ool-43518583.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] sup guys === gdh flicks rapidly through 'Guide to Modern Popular Culture' [04:38] Er... watching the game. Having a bud? [04:38] [04:38] just installed kubuntu, what's this 194.135.4.8 connected to the system? Is this the repos or kubuntu's IP? [04:38] if it was the jays game, more like watching the game and screaming at it [04:39] pax@debuntu:~$ last -d [04:39] pax :0 194.135.4.8 Sat Jul 9 22:03 still logged in [04:39] pax :0 0.0.0.0 Sat Jul 9 22:03 - 22:03 (00:00) [04:39] reboot system boot 0.0.0.0 Sat Jul 9 21:57 (00:40) [04:39] system booted with fresh kubuntu install, and showing connection from that IP, what's this about? [04:40] inetnum: 194.135.4.0 - 194.135.4.255 [04:40] descr: Samara City Bank [04:40] address: Russia [04:40] wow :) [04:40] I'm impressed. [04:40] owned at boot? [04:40] gdh: run that command and tell me what you see [04:40] last -d [04:41] Russia own joo box [04:41] haha snap! :) [04:41] i ran it and got nothing but 0.0.0.0's [04:41] weird [04:41] that's utterly impossible and must be some malfunction :) [04:41] I run chkrootkit and other tools, nothing [04:42] snoopy shows NO activity on the system [04:42] wtf where are the kubuntu rookies? [04:42] pax: Kubuntu doesn't even have any ports open by default === cyber05 [~cyber05@202.159.67.212] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] seth_k: so what's that IP about? [04:43] try a netstat -a [04:43] see what they're connected to [04:43] (it'll be at the top of the huge list of stuff that gets spit out) [04:43] Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-07-09 22:43 EDT [04:43] Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): [04:43] (The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) [04:43] PORT STATE SERVICE [04:43] 25/tcp open smtp [04:43] 631/tcp open ipp [04:44] seth nothing with netstat [04:44] Active Internet connections (servers and established) [04:44] Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State [04:44] tcp 0 0 localhost.localdoma:ipp *:* LISTEN [04:44] tcp 0 0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:* LISTEN [04:44] tcp 0 0 ool-43518583.dyn.:34759 brown.freenode.net:ircd ESTABLISHED [04:44] tcp6 0 0 ip6-localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN [04:45] odd [04:45] that's my ip, nothing showing the other IP? === utta [~utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:47] is there some clock server on Kunbuntu or something like that .. connecting to some server for sync? [04:48] it does that once at startup. [04:48] so could that be it? [04:48] "ntp.ubuntulinux.org" 82.211.81.145 [04:49] It's just a bug, completely bogus mis information. [04:49] file a bug report :) [04:49] fucking BS man, this Kubuntu stuff is shady [04:49]