[12:05] <nikkia> ztonzy: i was suggesting ALL blender users are weird....
[12:05] <ztonzy> and he asked for some spanish users...but it is only english in that channel 
[12:06] <ztonzy> nikkia, you werent there so how could you possible know what happened ?
[12:06] <ztonzy> nikkia, tell that to creators...  ;)
[12:07] <nikkia> ztonzy: i'm sure they hear it all the time, along with 'make an interface that makes sense!' :)
[12:07] <ztonzy> apokryphos, and I did a whois...turns out he was in #gay #bisexuales too ;)
[12:07] <ztonzy> nikkia, learn alien languge!
[12:07] <apokryphos> hhahaha
[12:07] <ztonzy> nikkia, bad excuse would I say
[12:07] <apokryphos> hmm, no-one else in there. Darn.
[12:07] <ztonzy> apokryphos, haha
[12:08] <apokryphos> ztonzy: how's your blender stuff going? Wouldn't have seen any in ages :P
[12:08] <ztonzy> apokryphos, mine? it is quite quiet :P
[12:08] <apokryphos> oh :-O
[12:09] <apokryphos> ztonzy: how about that character of yours?
[12:09] <ztonzy> apokryphos, but development are now progressing fast...especially in animationpart
[12:09] <apokryphos> nice
[12:09] <ztonzy> apokryphos, character is finished...just need to rig it...which is not easy task always
[12:09] <fromoze> I'm spaniard
[12:10] <ztonzy> http://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43975  my work :)
[12:10] <apokryphos> I can count to ten in Spanish :P. Impressive, I know.
[12:10] <ztonzy> fromoze, nice
[12:10] <ztonzy> apokryphos, I think I have shown you it before
[12:10] <apokryphos> ztonzy: wow, he's progressed a lot
[12:10] <fromoze> XD
[12:10] <ztonzy> apokryphos, ah...maybe I didnt show you...
[12:10] <fromoze> I must know how to do it in greek... but I don't remember...
[12:11] <apokryphos> ztonzy: I saw him when he was just a model: blue
[12:11] <ztonzy> apokryphos, yes, didnt like the blue/Captain america look...wanted a own colortheme
[12:11] <apokryphos> fromoze: ena, dio, tria, tesera... 8)
[12:11] <fromoze> for you is easy XD
[12:12] <apokryphos> ztonzy: He looks more slick like that, but not as happy ;-)
[12:12] <ztonzy> apokryphos, main blender coder have just recoded bone animation system to be way faster now
[12:12] <fromoze> apropos, someone creates the #kubuntu-es channel... but we're only two habitants for the moment :/
[12:12] <apokryphos> #ubuntu-es is more popular, isn't it?
[12:12] <apokryphos> Yeah, so I see.
[12:13] <fromoze> yes
[12:13] <ztonzy> and someone has logbots in those channels
[12:13] <_mike> uhm in the main account im on my speakers work. but when my dad logs into his account it cant dectect his device.
[12:13] <ztonzy> but not in #kubuntu
[12:14] <mcquaid> does anyone know how to enable 'automatically select filename extension' in the kde save dialog box?
[12:14] <mcquaid> it's greyed out
[12:14] <apokryphos> #kubuntu gets logged though
[12:14] <apokryphos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[12:14] <_mike> anyone know how to solve my problem
[12:14] <ztonzy> apokryphos, ok
[12:14] <Fraeon> Your dad doesn't need sound anyway. :>
[12:15] <apokryphos> ah yes... ubuntulog is in here
[12:15] <apokryphos> we should get ubotu in here too, I'm going to suggest that
[12:15] <_mike> yea he does. he needs it cuz hes a musician and uploads and downloads sound trakcs and stuff
[12:16] <ztonzy> apokryphos, thanks that you liked the finished model :o)
[12:16] <Fraeon> I'm out on a limb here, but I think it's that the rights for the devices aren't set up properly
[12:16] <Heart> when i add an user with kuser... can this user use aptitude and such things (where sudo is neccesary)?
[12:16] <apokryphos> ztonzy: very flash indeed, yup. ;-)
[12:16] <ztonzy> heeh
[12:16] <ztonzy> apokryphos, feel free to download it...
[12:16] <apokryphos> Heart: if you allow them to, yes. On the process of doing that check the Kubuntu guide
[12:16] <Fraeon> What's the default path for the sound device anyway?
[12:17] <apokryphos> ztonzy: I helped myself already :P
[12:17] <ztonzy> apokryphos, as long as my name and all is still there ;)
[12:17] <apokryphos> 'course
[12:17] <Heart> apokryphos: do you have a url for me please?
[12:17] <Fraeon> Great, the guy leaves.
[12:17] <fromoze> must I notice the conflits between xorg-common and x-common? must I create a bug? 
[12:17] <apokryphos> Heart: it's in /topic
[12:18] <apokryphos> Heart: precise part: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#sudomore
[12:19] <Fraeon> Anyhow, that's what I'm guessing.
[12:19] <apokryphos> fromoze: Nah... breezy isn't in use for the "public" at all, yet. 
[12:19] <fromoze> I think so
[12:20] <fromoze> woops
[12:20] <Fraeon> So, when is Potty Porcupine going to be released?
[12:20] <apokryphos> Official is in October sometime
[12:20] <Fraeon> Since we have Warty Warthog and Hoary Hedgehog. :p
[12:20] <gdh> October :)
[12:20] <apokryphos> they're going to recommend beta use soon though
[12:20] <gdh> Breezy Badger :)
[12:22] <Fraeon> I'm still at a loss why the homepna support is so poorly arranged in all the newer distros. It's not fun trudging through text files to get it to work.
[12:22] <fromoze> And I'm going to leave my computer alone for many time soon :) I must try a little breezy before XD
[12:22] <Heart_>  apokryphos: in the visudo-file there is no line for this user but this user can do "sudo <commands>" !? 
[12:22] <Fraeon> And every distro with kernel 2.4 has the support so that makes it even more puzzling
[12:23] <apokryphos> Heart_: if there's no line for them, creat eone
[12:24] <apokryphos> *create one
[12:24] <Heart_> hm, this user shouldn't be able to do sudo commands
[12:24] <apokryphos> Then don't let them :)
[12:25] <Heart_> ;) how?
[12:26] <apokryphos> Heart_: by default they won't have sudo access
[12:26] <Fraeon> I guess nobody is able to answer that. :>
[12:26] <Heart_> hm as i said, i created an user with kUser and this user can do sudo commands... (no line in visudo file for this user)
[12:27] <apokryphos> oh, sorry, misread it. 
[12:28] <apokryphos> Not sure why it's doing that. That's actually a bug, if it does
[12:29] <mcquaid> apokryphos, i compiled this kde applet with prefix usr and it works fine, but i noticed on the site it said this was recommended for deb users:
[12:29] <mcquaid> ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/kde3/
[12:29] <mcquaid> do i need to add the lib dir as well?
[12:30] <apokryphos> mcquaid: there's no harm in it, but I don't think you have to
[12:30] <apokryphos> since you've already specified the $KDEDIRS there
[12:30] <mcquaid> ok
[12:31] <apokryphos> Heart_: I've always used useradd...
[12:31] <Heart_> in console
[12:31] <apokryphos> yup
[12:32] <apokryphos> Heart_: hm, I just added a new user with kuser and it hasn't given them sudo powers...
[12:32] <Heart_> you logged in with this new user and tested it?
[12:33] <apokryphos> Heart_: nope, just through konsole; I don't logging into KDE would change it..
[12:34] <Heart_> k thx... hmmm strange thing
[12:41] <Heart_> hm, tested it again with "ctrl+alt+F2" > logged in as this user > done "sudo aptitude" for example and it works :(
[12:44] <reuben> where should java be installed?
[12:46] <apokryphos> Heart_: what if you make a new user, then in ksonole: su - {newuser}.. .and then try a sudo command? (without having logged in with them)?
[12:46] <apokryphos> reuben: to the executable? /usr/bin/java of course
[12:51] <apokryphos> reuben: best way to have installed java is probably: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:51] <Heart_> apokryphos: works too
[12:52] <apokryphos> Heart_: and this is with useradd? Odd. Definitely doesn't do it for me...
[12:52] <Heart_> k, took the user I've made with kuser
[12:53] <apokryphos> Heart_: try su to them in konsole before physically logging into KDE
[12:55] <apokryphos> make sure you do su - {newuser}  (with the "-" )
[12:55] <Heart_> yes
[12:56] <nikkia> ie, its letting *everyone* sudo
[12:56] <Heart_> shall i post /etc/sudoers file?
[12:56] <nikkia> ahhhh, wait
[12:57] <nikkia> Heart_: can you paste the results of 'id' as that user?
[12:57] <Heart_> ?
[12:57] <nikkia> Heart_: su to the new user, and type 'id'
[12:58] <Heart_> oh yes, it is
[12:58] <Heart_> then it's clear
[12:58] <Heart_> thx nikkia
[12:58] <nikkia> np
[01:00] <nikkia> i discovered a rather amusing exploit in KDE earlier
[01:01] <apokryphos> nikkia: shoot =)
[01:01] <reuben> which is
[01:01] <nikkia> i ssh -X'ed to my desktop, from my laptop, and ran kcontrol, to change my desktop sharing properties, cos i normally leave it turned off...
[01:02] <nikkia> after running kcontrol, somehow, KDE was redirecting all popups to my ssh -X'ed connection, so i could vnc to the desktop, and get the 'allow remote user?' dialog on the laptop's screen
[01:02] <apokryphos> :-S
[01:03] <nikkia> i think it was because when i ran kcontrol over the ssh, it didn't see a valid KDE running against that screen, so did the kbuildsyscoca stuff that normally happens if you run a KDE app outside KDE
[01:04] <nikkia> actually, i've just realised what was happening, ignore me :)
[01:04] <nikkia> it WAS trying to connect to vnc on my desktop, but it was a fake desktop for :10.0 that it was trying to connect to
[01:05] <nikkia> so there wasn't really anything exploitable - i couldn't have regained control over a konsole left su'ed for example
[01:23] <nikkia> erk
[01:23] <nikkia> slashdot just stopped accepting http connections
[01:23] <nikkia> oops, no, my router died :P
[02:04] <Beast> just installed kubuntu - was previously a mandrake 9.1 .... 10.1 user
[02:05] <Beast> very impressed with kubuntu
[02:07] <boga> Beast: I was unimpressed by the fonts though!
[02:07] <boga> and kynaptic!
[02:10] <Mez> kynaptic is the downfall for me :d
[02:10] <Mez> but it's being fixed for breezy 
[02:10] <Mez> *dances and installs synaptic for now8
[02:15] <Heart_> Mez: fixed != replaced!?
[02:15] <Mez> yeah
[02:15] <Mez> kynaptic = kaboom in breezy
[02:16] <Heart_> kaboom?!
[02:17] <Mez> being replaced by something else
[02:17] <Heart_> k
[02:18] <boga> something being done about the fonts too?
[02:22] <Beast> Mez - whats wrong with kynaptic
[02:22] <Beast> only problem i find is with trying to build other apps
[02:22] <Mez> It's not got the functionality most people desire
[02:23] <aseigo> e.g. search =)
[02:23] <Mez> it has search, just hard to find it in kynaptic (ctrl f IIFC)
[02:23] <Mez> s/IIFC/IIRC/
[02:23] <Beast> Edit->Find ?????
[02:23] <gdh> the Windows Update-styled 'update manager' for GNOME is very pleasant 
[02:24] <gdh> I think a K-ified version is destined for Breezy.
[02:24] <aseigo> well, that lets you search by name only ... i'm used to being able to search descriptions and whatnot
[02:25] <aseigo> oh wait, it has that to now
[02:25] <aseigo> jesus. i need to check this out more often 
[02:25] <gdh> :)
[02:26] <supernix> Can you tell what is causing Kmail to exit signal 11
[02:27] <supernix> i just wondered if there was a log I could see that was causing it ?
[02:27] <Beast> anybody upgraded to kde 3.4.1 ?
[02:27] <supernix> I have Beast 
[02:27] <Beast> would like to get kopete working again
[02:27] <supernix> Did it this morning or somewhere like that 
[02:28] <supernix> I still can't login to MSN don't know if it is me or it
[02:28] <Beast> what version of kopete ?
[02:28] <supernix> I think it is .10.2
[02:28] <Beast> mmn - thought it was fixed
[02:28] <supernix> they said it was
[02:28] <supernix> but like I said it might still be me
[02:29] <Beast> how did u upgrade - i added the following to /etc/apt/sources.list ...
[02:29] <Beast> deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.4.1/kubuntu hoary-updates main
[02:29] <Beast> then ran update all packages from kynaptic
[02:30] <supernix> I forgot who it was but someone told me a series of commands to run that would update it 
[02:30] <Beast> ok, no worriesa
[02:49] <apokryphos> join #kopete
[02:49] <apokryphos> whoop
[02:51] <_shawn> hi
[02:52] <_shawn> I just upgraded amarok to CVS and it won't play streams with xine, any ideas?
[02:52] <_shawn> *SVN
[02:52] <apokryphos> _shawn: it didn't compile with xine plugin
[02:52] <apokryphos> you need to have the xine and xine-devel packages
[02:52] <_shawn> yes it did
[02:53] <_shawn> I said it won't play stream it will play mp3s
[02:53] <apokryphos> Alright, I see.
[02:54] <apokryphos> _shawn: though that is more of an #amarok issue, I'd imagine -- you'd get more luck in there
[02:55] <_shawn> k
[03:15] <penguinboy> evening Geeks, Nerds, and Linux Gods
[03:16] <supernix> PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ someone help me I will bbl
[03:16] <reuben> hey penguinboy
[03:16] <reuben> whats up supernix
[03:16] <penguinboy> hey Reuben!!!
[03:16] <penguinboy> whats the prob supernix 
[03:18] <penguinboy> Welcome CavalierBob !!!
[03:19] <CavalierBob> Thanks for the welcome!
[03:23] <penguinboy> anyone installed Sunbird yet?
[03:23] <reuben> hi cavalierbob
[03:24] <CavalierBob> Hey reuben! :)
[03:25] <reuben> My desktop is currently live on http://reuben.myscreen.org/ feel free to check it out
[03:25] <reuben> ^^ was just testing something
[03:26] <gdh> wow, reuben on #blackdicks
[03:26] <reuben> lol
[03:27] <reuben> i thought i'd hidden the adult content:P
[03:27] <penguinboy> kewl
[03:30] <penguinboy> i sit best to download GTK2-XFT or GTK1????
[03:30] <penguinboy> is it
[03:31] <crimsun> gtk2 may be more agreeable to you thematically
[03:31] <penguinboy> gracios
[03:32] <dstambou> are there any unofficial specialised kubuntu builds?
[03:32] <dstambou> or official for that matter :)
[03:32] <crimsun> specialised in what way?
[03:32] <dstambou> optimised for certain arch?
[03:32] <crimsun> I'm using the 5.04.3 live cd, which is pretty specialised
[03:33] <crimsun> not that I know of
[03:33] <dstambou> I'd like to try the install cd
[03:33] <crimsun> then try the install cd, then install linux-686
[03:34] <dstambou> ah
[03:34] <dstambou> oh and, I take ubuntu uses udev file management?
[03:34] <crimsun> yes
[03:34] <dstambou> how, for example, does it handle a usb mass storage device?
[03:34] <dstambou> in a graphical way?
[03:34] <crimsun> well, you're asking two different questions
[03:34] <dstambou> do I have to modprobe/mount/etc
[03:34] <crimsun> Kubuntu does use udev to manage devices, along with hotplug.
[03:34] <dstambou> or when I plug it in, will it pop up? :)
[03:35] <crimsun> if you plug in a USB thumb drive, for instance, it will appear on your KDE desktop automatically.
[03:35] <dstambou> yes, the udev question was not meant to be related, by the way :)
[03:35] <dstambou> goodo
[03:35] <dstambou> 5.04 latest? Any workable devel builds?
[03:36] <crimsun> not of Kubuntu but of Ubuntu, yes
[03:36] <dstambou> I'm looking for a kde environment :)
[03:36] <crimsun> 5.10 (Breezy) is the development branch currently
[03:36] <crimsun> you can install kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, which will give you Kubuntu
[03:37] <dstambou> pros and cons of doing so?
[03:37] <dstambou> how will it differ from a kubuntu build?
[03:37] <dstambou> if at all
[03:37] <crimsun> it will have GNOME packages, too, which will differ from a default Kubuntu install
[03:37] <dstambou> these can be removed at installation or after? 
[03:38] <crimsun> only after, and it's somewhat of a pain
[03:38] <dstambou> ah
[03:38] <dstambou> how so?
[03:38] <crimsun> there's no easy way to remove all the GNOME packages in one command
[03:38] <crimsun> an alternative is to install Hoary then dist-upgrade to Breezy
[03:39] <dstambou> hoary kubuntu?
[03:39] <crimsun> you need a fast Internet connection and much patience, though
[03:39] <crimsun> Kubuntu Hoary, yes
[03:39] <dstambou> mmm
[03:39] <crimsun> Breezy is the development branch, after all. Things are broken and are expected to continue to be broken.
[03:40] <crimsun> There is no support for the development branch.
[03:40] <dstambou> I've run ~x86 development gentoo for a few years now, so I should be able to cope, hopefully :)
[03:40] <crimsun> similar idea but different beast
[03:41] <dstambou> and ubuntu package management is another repository on top of apt? Can I install deb packages?
[03:42] <crimsun> Ubuntu packages are in repositories, which is the identical concept driving Debian.
[03:42] <crimsun> You can easily install Ubuntu packages from Ubuntu repositories.
[03:42] <dstambou> ah, they have to be specifically Ubuntu branded?
[03:42] <dstambou> ie. like rpms mandrake/redhat
[03:43] <crimsun> Installing Debian packages from non-Ubuntu repositories is neither supported nor recommended due to differing build dependencies and compiler versions used, etc. It is, however, possible to carefully mix Ubuntu and non-Ubuntu debs.
[03:44] <dstambou> mm
[03:45] <dstambou> further to that, is there a way to integrate packages built from source into my own apt tree? (not sure on the terminology - never used apt package management)
[03:45] <gdh> I see some 'advice' on the forums which advise people to get package X working then need packages A B and C from Debian, one of which is libc6...
[03:45] <dstambou> ack
[03:45] <dstambou> that's pretty much the reason I went to gentoo, was sick of all that rubbish from mandrake and rpms
[03:45] <crimsun> dstambou: if you build your own debs on your Kubuntu machine, yes
[03:45] <dstambou> and the lack of available software packages
[03:46] <gdh> dstambou: Does the whole gentoo thing not rely on /someone/ having made an 'ebuild' for that software though?
[03:46] <crimsun> unfortunately, most people just want to grab whatever suits them without checking carefully whether they're actual Ubuntu packages
[03:47] <dstambou> gdh: in a sense, it is very easy to edit/add a new ebuild though - can simply mean changing a few digits - and as the ebuild is simply a pointer to sources... very simple
[03:47] <dstambou> don't have to wait for people to build, if ever
[03:47] <dstambou> so a simple ebuild can be a couple of lines of bash scripting
[03:47] <gdh> does gentoo revolve around /usr/local ? (I've never used it)
[03:47] <dstambou> gdh: not sure what you mean by 'revolve' ?
[03:48] <gdh> I suppose it wouldn't since everything would be site-local compilations...
[03:48] <gdh> heh :)
[03:49] <dstambou> I don't mind building from source - there are binaries available for a lot of packages also
[03:49] <dstambou> I would just like a more simplified system, where things 'just work'
[03:49] <gdh> that's the ultimate goal :)
[03:49] <crimsun> remember that you're not exactly limited by repositories lacking a certain package you want
[03:49] <crimsun> you can always download the deb-src and compile it on your Kubuntu install
[03:50] <crimsun> (applies to any distro)
[03:50] <gdh> dstambou: indeed, debian makes it easy... apt-get build-dep will install all of the -dev packages required to recompile a given package.
[03:51] <gdh> dstambou: so if all you want is a newer version than what ships wih Kubuntu, you can get the build-dep, followed by apt-get source package, and re-use the debian/ directory with the latest tarball.. 99% of the time that will work fine :)
[03:51] <dstambou> I will give it a go, let it download tonight when I sleep :)
[03:51] <gdh> end result: you get a home-made .deb of your new software :)
[03:51] <dstambou> I will keep my gentoo install about, and see how we go
[03:52] <dstambou> I've been very happy with the portage system
[03:52] <dstambou> very versatile
[03:53] <dstambou> crimsun: gdh: thank you kindly for your assistance, it has been much appreciated
[03:53] <gdh> No problem {:-)
[03:53] <crimsun> yw, g'luck
[03:54] <dstambou> if anything goes wrong, I will be back here to rant about :p
[03:54] <gdh> We have a /dev/null redirection for that =)
[03:55] <seth_k> :P
[03:56] <dstambou> http://ian.kluft.com/humor/devnull.html
[03:56] <dstambou> :
[03:56] <dstambou> /dev/null is vulnerable! hehe
[03:58] <seth_k> nooooooo
[03:58] <bccs> hey
[03:59] <bccs> is there a Apollon package for kubunto?
[03:59] <bccs> kubuntu*
[03:59] <seth_k> there is indeed
[03:59] <seth_k> 1.0.1-1 is in hoary universe
[04:00] <bccs> great. tks.
[04:00] <dstambou> up to 1.0.2 though :p
[04:01] <gdh> feh, Kubuntu was released 3 months ago, and frozen before then :)
[04:01] <seth_k> I can backport it if you'd like?
[04:01] <dstambou> package frozen?
[04:01] <seth_k> universe freezes about halfway through a release cycle (autosync from Debian stops)
[04:01] <dstambou> I think latest version of apollon I have is 1.0.2.1
[04:01] <dstambou> ah
[04:01] <seth_k> e.g., Breezy autosync freeze was this week
[04:01] <gdh> wow :)
[04:02] <seth_k> however, new packages will be entering universe all the way into october
[04:02] <seth_k> we just have to manually request them over
[04:02] <dstambou> seth_k: your name seems *very* familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it... would there be somewhere I would know you from? :)
[04:02] <dstambou> ah
[04:03] <seth_k> dstambou: not sure. InvisionFree, Neowin, UbuntuForums, A Small Orange, Invision Power?
[04:03] <seth_k> those would be my top five hangouts
[04:03] <seth_k> i'm also a fresh new Ubuntu member =D if you attend the CC meetings
[04:04] <dstambou> I'm not sure, the name is tugging at the back of my mind... I'm sure it will come to me heh :)
[04:04] <dstambou> need some coffee maybe
[04:04] <seth_k> haha
[04:06] <gdh> wwo renaming of the future comes to the present! :)
[04:06] <seth_k> that's deep, gdh. real deep. ;)
[04:07] <gdh> I'm assuming that's the plural :)
[04:08] <gdh> goddamnit I have drunk entirely too slowly today. I am still perfectly sober.
[04:09] <seth_k> No gdh, that's a good thing
[04:09] <seth_k> Your liver will thank you
[04:09] <gdh> feh :)
[04:10] <gdh> I am clean-living, this is my only vice =)
[04:10] <gdh> Hm, did I just contradict myself there?
[04:16] <seth_k> oy monchy
[04:16] <seth_k> what's new
[04:18] <seth_k> mm, krename 3.0.3-2build1 backported to Hoary
[04:20] <gdh> *rock* :)
[04:21] <monchy> just got in, went to the bar with some mates then saw war of the worlds
[04:21] <gdh> Is it any use?
[04:22] <gdh> I dunno about Tom Cruise as a concept in that :/
[04:23] <seth_k> i hear the ending is lame :(
[04:23] <monchy> special effects were ace but the rest was eh...
[04:23] <seth_k> but there are lots of explosions :)
[04:23] <monchy> yea it was
[04:23] <monchy> real gay ending
[04:24] <monchy> batman begins made up for it though lol
[04:24] <seth_k> haha, they had that on pirated DVD when I was in Mexico last week
[04:24] <seth_k> 45 cents
[04:24] <monchy> sweet
[04:24] <monchy> did you get it?
[04:24] <gdh> leaves it open for 'war of the universe' - an apocalyptical epic about free software in an uncontrolled environment...
[04:24] <gdh> and 'Ubuntu - The Musical'
[04:37] <pax> sup guys
[04:38] <gdh> Er... watching the game. Having a bud?
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[04:38] <pax> just installed kubuntu, what's this 194.135.4.8 connected to the system? Is this the repos or kubuntu's IP?
[04:38] <monchy> if it was the jays game, more like watching the game and screaming at it
[04:39] <pax> pax@debuntu:~$ last -d
[04:39] <pax> pax      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 22:03   still logged in
[04:39] <pax> pax      :0           0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 22:03 - 22:03  (00:00)
[04:39] <pax> reboot   system boot  0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 21:57          (00:40)
[04:39] <pax> system booted with fresh kubuntu install, and showing connection from that IP, what's this about?
[04:40] <gdh> inetnum:      194.135.4.0 - 194.135.4.255
[04:40] <gdh> descr:        Samara City Bank
[04:40] <gdh> address:      Russia
[04:40] <gdh> wow :)
[04:40] <gdh> I'm impressed.
[04:40] <pax> owned at boot?
[04:40] <pax> gdh: run that command and tell me what you see
[04:40] <pax> last -d
[04:41] <seth_k> Russia own joo box
[04:41] <gdh> haha snap! :)
[04:41] <seth_k> i ran it and got nothing but 0.0.0.0's
[04:41] <pax> weird
[04:41] <gdh> that's utterly impossible and must be some malfunction :)
[04:41] <pax> I run chkrootkit and other tools, nothing
[04:42] <pax> snoopy shows NO activity on the system
[04:42] <pax> wtf where are the kubuntu rookies?
[04:42] <seth_k> pax: Kubuntu doesn't even have any ports open by default
[04:43] <pax> seth_k: so what's that IP about?
[04:43] <seth_k> try a netstat -a
[04:43] <seth_k> see what they're connected to
[04:43] <seth_k> (it'll be at the top of the huge list of stuff that gets spit out)
[04:43] <pax> Starting nmap 3.75 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2005-07-09 22:43 EDT
[04:43] <pax> Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
[04:43] <pax> (The 1661 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
[04:43] <pax> PORT    STATE SERVICE
[04:43] <pax> 25/tcp  open  smtp
[04:43] <pax> 631/tcp open  ipp
[04:44] <pax> seth nothing with netstat
[04:44] <pax> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
[04:44] <pax> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[04:44] <pax> tcp        0      0 localhost.localdoma:ipp *:*                     LISTEN
[04:44] <pax> tcp        0      0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:*                     LISTEN
[04:44] <pax> tcp        0      0 ool-43518583.dyn.:34759 brown.freenode.net:ircd ESTABLISHED
[04:44] <pax> tcp6       0      0 ip6-localhost:smtp      *:*                     LISTEN
[04:45] <seth_k> odd
[04:45] <pax> that's my ip, nothing showing the other IP?
[04:47] <pax> is there some clock server on Kunbuntu or something like that .. connecting to some server for sync?
[04:48] <gdh> it does that once at startup.
[04:48] <pax> so could that be it?
[04:48] <gdh> "ntp.ubuntulinux.org" 82.211.81.145
[04:49] <gdh> It's just a bug, completely bogus mis information.
[04:49] <gdh> file a bug report :)
[04:49] <pax> fucking BS man, this Kubuntu stuff is shady
[04:49] <gdh> I see the same thing here with last -d and I have no ports forwarded to this machine
[04:49] <pax> you see what?
[04:49] <gdh> gdh      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 18:21   still logged in
[04:50] <pax> you see taht same IP from russsia?
[04:50] <pax> no shit
[04:50] <pax> are you serious?
[04:50] <seth_k> file a bug about it, someone will be able to tell you what it is
[04:50] <seth_k> where are you located, pax?
[04:51] <pax> New Jersey, U.S of A
[04:51] <seth_k> heh
[04:51] <seth_k> not russia
[04:51] <pax> that's what I'm saying dude
[04:51] <seth_k> you should be using the same ntp server i am, then
[04:51] <seth_k> my thought is to file a bug. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <seth_k> and ask what's up
[04:52] <seth_k> ?? bugzilla
[04:52] <kinfo> No match for "bugzilla"
[04:52] <seth_k> !learn bugzilla http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <kinfo> Inprinted bugzilla (memory injection successful)
[04:52] <pax> man this is freaking me out
[04:52] <pax> I install a distro and it's connected to some russian IP?
[04:52] <monchy> lol
[04:53] <gdh> pax: Calm down. You found a bug, not a government conspiracy :)
[04:53] <griott> alguien que hable espaol ?
[04:53] <kalenedrael> hmmm
[04:53] <kalenedrael> this !learn function can easily be abused, i think
[04:53] <pax> a bug, so you all have that same IP?
[04:53] <seth_k> kalenedrael: if I'm around, people that abuse it go on a vacation from the channel :P
[04:54] <gdh> pax: Well, maybe not 'all' but I certainly do for every login, so it is bogus.
[04:54] <pax> gdh, so you are owned too, let's create a club called OwnedByKubuntu
[04:54] <kalenedrael> like "!learn goatse http://goat.cx"
[04:55] <gdh> pax: heh :)
[04:55] <seth_k> but who is going to type "?? goatse
[04:55] <kalenedrael> dunno
[04:55] <seth_k> opportunities for abuse are minimal imo
[04:55] <kkathman> evening there gdh :)
[04:55] <kalenedrael> actually, if anyone asks what goatse is
[04:55] <gdh> kkathman: hai :)
[04:55] <kkathman> o/
[04:55] <gdh> kkathman: Am just pondering retiring for the evening ... nearly 4am...
[04:56] <kkathman> ahhh you should...very early in the morning :)
[04:56] <gdh> kkathman: just finishing th final glass of whisky for tonight =)
[04:56] <kkathman> and sleep late :)
[04:56] <gdh> I don't see light outside yet - that's the final trigger
[04:56] <griott> exists floppy net install kubuntu ?
[04:56] <gdh> kkathman:  although once it gets to September, that can get a bit ridiculous.
[04:56] <kkathman> lol
[04:56] <griott> help to net install for floppy ..
[04:57] <kkathman> Must admit, I have done the all nighters
[04:57] <gdh> allnighters are much more pleasant when there's no Ultimately-Futile project/assignment to hand in at 9am....
[04:58] <seth_k> true that
[04:58] <seth_k> i pulled my first all nighter, but it was because I was on a roll
[04:58] <seth_k> not because anything was due that morning
[04:58] <seth_k> research papers = the suck :)
[04:58] <kkathman> gdh - true that :)
[05:03] <gdh> righto, that's enough 1980's nonsense pop music for one night - good night, all :)
[05:04] <delltony> hi
[05:05] <seth_k> pax, not acceptable please.
[05:05] <pax> seth_k: sorry, but this is a serious issue.
[05:05] <seth_k> pax, file a bug and you will get an answer
[05:05] <seth_k> it does not belong in /topic
[05:05] <pax> ok.
[05:05] <seth_k> i agree that this is an issue
[05:05] <seth_k> and i'm glad you're taking it seriously
[05:05] <seth_k> but the devs are the ones who can answer you
[05:05] <pax> thank you for your high understanding.
[05:06] <seth_k> if you need help with bugzilla, I'm happy to assist you
[05:06] <delltony> can somene help me in getting libmp3lame installed into mplayer so i can make dvd too xvid like the guide indicates using libmp3lame and mencoder?
[05:06] <pax> seth_k: let me file the bug, if I encounter any problems I'll let you know.
[05:06] <seth_k> pax: sounds good
[05:08] <seth_k> pax: you might also consider stopping by #ubuntu-devel
[05:08] <delltony> :( guess not
[05:08] <seth_k> they can maybe give you a quick answer
[05:08] <seth_k> delltony: that doesn't sound like a KDE-specific answer, so I'll bet you'll get better help in #ubuntu :)
[05:09] <delltony> well i just came here cause i run kubuntu but thats cool and ubuntu never answers me
[05:09] <delltony> is why ii tried over here
[05:09] <pax> seth_k: I created n account and signed in, dont see where to file *new* bug
[05:09] <seth_k> delltony: that's a pretty specific question unfortunately
[05:09] <seth_k> probably no one has experience with it
[05:09] <seth_k> pax: it's at the bottom. Actions: Home | New
[05:10] <delltony> probably but i find it hard to believe that noone besides me wants to make dvds and convert them too xvid
[05:10] <pax> seth_k: New takes to a page with documentation and information about Ubuntu
[05:11] <delltony> only reason i want to do this is cause i travel with my job and i can fit around 4 dvds onto a dvd with xvid or so
[05:11] <seth_k> pax: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/enter_bug.cgi
[05:11] <delltony> wherer otherwse i have to take and carry all the dvds with me
[05:11] <pax> yes that's the page, thank you.
[05:11] <seth_k> no problem
[05:12] <pax> seth_k: what 'package' should this be reported in?
[05:12] <seth_k> pax: it's not a package issue, I would use unknown
[05:12] <pax> k
[05:13] <sproingie> hm.  i moved a new font into /usr/share/fonts ... how do i make kde aware of it?
[05:14] <sproingie> firefox is finding it, it shows up in fonts:/ but konqueror doesn't select it for unicode ranges while firefox does
[05:14] <sproingie> which is a rather surprising reversal of the usual case
[05:15] <seth_k> indeed
[05:15] <sproingie> i usually use konqueror because firefox's unicode font selection algorithm sucks
[05:16] <seth_k> sproingie: have you used System -> Font Installer to make it usable by KDE?
[05:17] <sproingie> seth_k: under the k menu?
[05:17] <sproingie> i have no such item off the k menu
[05:17] <seth_k> sproingie: it is in KControl / SystemSettings
[05:18] <sproingie> ah there it is
[05:18] <sproingie> goddammit
[05:18] <sproingie> kdesu is broken again
[05:18] <seth_k> do you have kde 3.4.1 ?
[05:18] <sproingie> it asks for root pw, i enter it, it shows the main kcontrol panel instead
[05:18] <seth_k> yeah
[05:19] <seth_k> breezy has that fixed completely, kde 3.4.1 goes a long ways towards stopping it :/
[05:19] <sproingie> nope, 3.4.0
[05:19] <seth_k> sproingie: I'd try upgrading :/
[05:19] <sproingie> i just realized i don't have kubuntu in my sources
[05:19] <sproingie> what's the source line?
[05:19] <seth_k> in /topic ;)
[05:22] <seth_k> Breezy eschews KControl in favor of systemsettings, so no more issues then =D
[05:22] <sproingie> er, oddly i'm not seeing the kubuntu repo in the faq's sources.list file
[05:24] <seth_k> sproingie: the last part. KDE 3.4.1 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php
[05:24] <ghostdog> I having bug issues with konqueror
[05:24] <sproingie> oh, missed the more obvious link 
[05:24] <ghostdog> every so often kde crash handler will generate a backtrace
[05:24] <seth_k> ghostdog: upgrade to kde 3.4.1, it's fixed
[05:25] <ghostdog> what reps?
[05:25] <ghostdog> apt-get update?
[05:25] <seth_k> ghostdog: see the last part of /topic
[05:25] <seth_k> kde 3.4.1
[05:25] <ghostdog> mi bad
[05:25] <seth_k> no worries
[05:26] <seth_k> pax: have a link to your bug?
[05:26] <ghostdog> I'll give it a try
[05:26] <seth_k> ghostdog: that should fix all the crashes
[05:27] <ghostdog> thanks
[05:31] <pax> seth_k: yes sir. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12568
[05:32] <griott> hey alguien me ayuda a instalar kubuntu ?
[05:32] <sproingie> hm, arts is broken in the kde upgrade
[05:32] <sproingie> looking for libarts1 and libartsc0 which aren't there
[05:33] <griott> sproingie, exist floppy net-installer for kubuntu ?
[05:33] <pax> I hope they will address this serious issue. It is confusing for new people who install Kubuntu for the first time.
[05:35] <pax> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kwifimanager_3.4.0-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[05:35] <pax> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:35] <pax> I'm trying to dist-upgrade and this is what I get ^
[05:35] <seth_k> pax: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <seth_k> remove all the us.
[05:35] <pax> seth_k: why?
[05:35] <seth_k> so you have http://archive.ubuntu.com for all of them
[05:35] <seth_k> pax: us archive is having issues
[05:36] <pax> ok, thanks
[05:36] <griott> seth_k, exist floppy net-installer for kubuntu ?
[05:36] <griott> ?
[05:36] <sproingie> no floppy install
[05:36] <sproingie> not that i know of
[05:37] <crimsun> yes, there is. See the netboot directory on the mirrors.
[05:37] <pax> seth_k: would you post your sources.list somewere so I can cp it?
[05:37] <newbie> how to close a connection initiated by fish in konquer
[05:37] <sproingie> anyway, time to restart x
[05:37] <newbie> i closed the window but the connection is still active
[05:38] <seth_k> pax: I use breezy, so make sure to replace all "breezy" with "hoary"
[05:38] <seth_k> or you'll mess your system up
[05:38] <seth_k> er, actually, I don't even have the kde 3.4.1 source or anything
[05:38] <seth_k> ?? sources
[05:38] <kinfo> No match for "sources"
[05:38] <pax> seth_k: no doubt, I will not touch breezy until atleast august
[05:39] <seth_k> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:39] <pax> excellent.
[05:39] <seth_k> add to that the KDE 3.4.1 source in /topic
[05:39] <seth_k> and you should be good
[05:39] <pax> I'll add backports to that.
[05:39] <seth_k> yep
[05:40] <pax> anything else related to Kubuntu I should add?
[05:40] <seth_k> the Koffice 1.4 source, if you use koffice
[05:40] <seth_k> also in /topic
[05:40] <seth_k> did anyone get back to you on the IP yet?
[05:41] <pax> Koffice is excellent.
[05:41] <pax> Not yet/
[05:42] <seth_k> crimsun: just looking, I don't see a netinstall package at /releases/
[05:42] <crimsun> seth_k: not netinstall. netboot.
[05:43] <seth_k> oops :D
[05:43] <pax> 789kb/s not bad, I would gladly host backports or other for kubuntu/ubuntu.
[05:44] <pax> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:44] <pax>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb
[05:44] <pax> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:44] <pax> spoke too soon
[05:47] <seth_k> does it give the error if you scroll up?
[05:49] <pax> seth_k: fixed, thank you.
[05:50] <seth_k> great
[05:50] <pax> I tried this script to save some time, but it messed my sources.list.
[05:50] <pax> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&pp=10
 pax: There you go, bug is filed.
[05:52] <pax> this gentleman have the same problem
[05:52] <seth_k> yep, i've been watching #ubuntu too
[05:52] <pax> Hawkish, aren't you :)
[05:54] <seth_k> it's a living ;)
[05:55] <pax> what's the cmd for cp in konsole, I always used ctrl+shift+v
[05:55] <pax> shift+insert, nvm
[06:04] <ToyMan> hi all
[06:04] <ToyMan> scp -r should catch hidden dir too, yes?
[06:07] <seth_k> hmmm
[06:07] <pax> seth_k: you work for ubuntu?
[06:07] <seth_k> haha, figurative living
[06:07] <seth_k> no, I'm just a student
[06:08] <pax> Great!
[06:09] <pax> didnt get any feedback on that bug report, maybe it wasn't clear enough.
[06:10] <seth_k> pax: things move a bit slower than that
[06:11] <seth_k> ToyMan: looking at its sister functions, -r will catch hidden dirs
[06:11] <seth_k> ToyMan: but try it and see :P
[06:12] <pax> !7.0-0.9~5.04ubp2
[06:13] <pax> no bot here?
[06:13] <seth_k> what are you wanting to know?
[06:14] <seth_k> i doubt the bot knows about a version string
[06:16] <Speedy2> I don't know if this is Kubuntu specific or not, but KDE seems to look for my mounted drives in /media -- anyway to change that? I prefer the standard UNIX /mnt location
[06:16] <Speedy2> Any ideas on how to have it look at /mnt ?
[06:22] <Speedy2> Hello?
[06:27] <monchy> helllllllo
[06:27] <Speedy2> Any idea here on how to get KDE to look in /mnt for my mount points?
[06:28] <monchy> i have no idea, but i didn't want to leave you hanging without a hello
[06:31] <Speedy2> Heh.  Thanks ;)
[06:32] <monchy> your welcome
[06:33] <Speedy2> Where is my welcome?
[06:51] <seth_k> sleep for me, night all
[06:51] <monchy> night
[06:56] <pax> g'night seth_k 
[07:00] <Computer__Guru> k/ubuntu seems pretty nice, but doesnt seem very complete... i compiled mplayer and i only have two video out options, x11 & xvidix, and neither one works.. im running the right xserver (ati)... this is frustrating as all holy hell
[07:01] <Computer__Guru> and i had to install a SLEW of dev packages before it would even compile
[07:01] <Computer__Guru> anybody else experience similar pains?
[07:02] <crimsun> you didn't have to compile mplayer at all. You could have used the version from multiverse.
[07:02] <crimsun> you also didn't realise there's sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[07:03] <Computer__Guru> what's the package name cause i have multiverse in my sources.list and nothing matched in a "dpkg -l '*mplayer*'"
[07:03] <crimsun> so... once you actually install the correct mplayer package, you can choose -vo xv
[07:04] <Computer__Guru> okay we're gonna try this
[07:04] <crimsun> get rid of your current mplayer installation first
[07:04] <Computer__Guru> im on it
[07:05] <Computer__Guru> didnt know about this build-dep thing :D
[07:05] <Computer__Guru> tyvm
[07:05] <crimsun> np
[07:05] <crimsun> you'll want to ensure that all the necessary repos are enabled
[07:07] <Computer__Guru> they are :)
[07:07] <Computer__Guru> you, sir, are a most helpful mammal
[07:09] <Computer__Guru> why does it also install mplayer-586?
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> and which does it default to?
[07:15] <Computer__Guru> that worked like a charm, btw
[07:16] <Computer__Guru> what about xmms? is there a better versiont han the one i have currently installed that i dont know about?
[08:06] <Computer__Guru> somebody just shot up a house downt he street
[08:06] <Computer__Guru> wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:09] <monchy> hey at least i'm not the only person who lives in the ghetto
[08:09] <Computer__Guru> heh
[08:09] <Computer__Guru> nothing like the sound of a little automatic gunfire to wake you right up
[08:10] <monchy> i feel ya man, get used to it though
[08:10] <Computer__Guru> cause lemme tell ya
[08:10] <Computer__Guru> my eyes are wide open now
[08:10] <Computer__Guru> that shit was less than a block away
[08:11] <Computer__Guru> i should take a couple screenshots
[08:11] <monchy> popos there already?
[08:11] <Computer__Guru> popos were already on duty at the bar downstairs.. by the time i hit the door, they were both across the street guns drawn
[08:11] <Computer__Guru> less than a minute later there were over 30 squads and three helis
[08:12] <Computer__Guru> a third of which were paddywagons
[08:12] <monchy> sounds like a drug deal gone bad lol
[08:12] <Computer__Guru> nah they shot up an apartment
[08:12] <Computer__Guru> the lady inside said she had no clue why or who would have done it
[08:12] <Computer__Guru> she looked like she'd been asleep
[08:13] <Computer__Guru> was in her panties and a tee shirt
[08:13] <Computer__Guru> with a mudpack on her face
[08:13] <monchy> hah, maybe some crackheads
[08:13] <Computer__Guru> hard to tell
[08:13] <monchy> gotta be somethin for some people to just roll up like that and start shootin
[08:13] <Computer__Guru> im gonna go make some tea, then im gonna take some screenshots of my desktop, then im gonna post em and brag :D
[08:15] <monchy> lol alright
[08:21] <Computer__Guru> macromedia needs to develop fireworks for linux
[08:21] <Computer__Guru> i'd be in graphics heaven
[08:22] <Computer__Guru> cause i despise gimp (read:I'm too lazy to learn it)
[08:23] <Computer__Guru> oh and it wasnt a house
[08:23] <Computer__Guru> they just didnt find the body till just now
[08:23] <Computer__Guru> somebody is dead as a doorknob.... fifteen shots to the head, chest, and right thigh
[08:24] <monchy> gotta wonder man, could be gang related who knows
[08:24] <Computer__Guru> probably drug
[08:25] <Computer__Guru> fired
[08:25] <Computer__Guru> he was let go with no possibility of rehire
[08:26] <monchy> be back, gonna run down to the gas station for a mega slurpie
[08:55] <Computer__Guru> http://www.Daede.com/MyDesktop.jpg
[08:55] <Computer__Guru> there it is :)
[08:55] <Computer__Guru> that's what kubuntu looks like for me :D
[08:58] <Computer__Guru> that's less than an hour of customizing kubuntu
[09:02] <Computer__Guru> i should submit this screenshot to kde-look.org and kubuntu.org
[09:06] <xxenon> Computer__Guru - is there a superkaramba there ?
[09:10] <Computer__Guru> a what?
[09:10] <Borg^Queen> Hey people  how do I get freenode to email me my password
[09:11] <xxenon> how you made the menu (bellow) ?
[09:11] <Borg^Queen> I changed it and now I can't find the pad with the passw on it
[09:11] <Computer__Guru> find an oper
[09:11] <Computer__Guru> this looks like an old version of services
[09:12] <Borg^Queen> I tried, no dice
[09:12] <Borg^Queen> rude people
[09:12] <Computer__Guru> oh
[09:12] <Borg^Queen> they keep say there's a command but when I ask them what it is they don't answer or tell me to look it up
[09:13] <Computer__Guru> try /msg nickserv help
[09:13] <Borg^Queen> ok I'll give it a shot
[09:14] <Computer__Guru> i didnt see anythign there though
[09:14] <Borg^Queen> nope
[09:14] <Borg^Queen> other servers do have it
[09:15] <Borg^Queen> it figures they don't
[09:15] <Computer__Guru> eh i dunno, pester em till they help you
[09:15] <Computer__Guru> did you try #OperHelp?
[09:15] <Borg^Queen> ok
[09:15] <Borg^Queen> empty
[09:16] <Computer__Guru> #opers
[09:16] <Computer__Guru> #help
[09:16] <Computer__Guru> *shrug*
[09:16] <Borg^Queen> tried them all
[09:16] <Borg^Queen> thanks
[09:17] <Borg^Queen> inefficient server
[09:17] <Computer__Guru> wish i could help more
[09:17] <Computer__Guru> if this were dalnet and like 1997 i could have retrieved it for you :D
[09:18] <Borg^Queen> This was dalnet
[09:18] <Borg^Queen> Hey whatever happened to dalnet
[09:18] <Computer__Guru> it's still there
[09:18] <Computer__Guru> this wasnt dalnet
[09:18] <Borg^Queen> ok
[09:18] <Computer__Guru> this just uses bahamut
[09:18] <Computer__Guru> the dalnet version of ircd
[09:19] <Borg^Queen> ah
[09:19] <Computer__Guru> the services version here is OLD
[09:19] <Borg^Queen> so it would seem
[09:19] <Computer__Guru> dalnet's services is leaps and bounds ahead of this system
[09:19] <Borg^Queen> I used a standard command to get them to email me the password but it didn't work
[09:22] <Borg^Queen> oh Computer__Guru can you ask in #freenode?
[09:22] <Borg^Queen> Since I can't ask
[09:27] <Borg^Queen> hello?
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> im a pimp
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26283
[09:52] <Computer__Guru> go rate it and add a comment :)
[09:57] <dev> hey
[09:57] <dev> i need help
[09:58] <dev> anyone around
[09:58] <dev> 71 helpers would be cool
[09:58] <Computer__Guru> whats up?
[09:58] <shogouki> just tell your pb ...
[09:59] <dev> i installed kubuntu tonight, but i cant get on the net with it
[10:00] <Computer__Guru> what are you using now
[10:00] <Computer__Guru> ?
[10:00] <dev> wintendos
[10:00] <shogouki> have you read doc and faq about ubuntu on the net ?
[10:00] <dev> tons
[10:01] <delltony> can someone look at this http://pastebin.com/310406 and explain to me what needs to be done to get the mplayer too compile?
[10:01] <dev> delltony u stalker
[10:02] <delltony> i'm wanting to mencode dvd to xvid so mplayer is what i need
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> delltony: follow these instructions
[10:02] <dev> y so hard up for xvid?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> make sure you have deb's for universe and multiverse
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> do you?
[10:02] <delltony> yep
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> ok
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> now
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> apt-get build-deps mplayer-686
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> when that's done
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> apt-get install mplayer-686
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> ta-da
[10:03] <delltony> but will that be with libmp3lame support?
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> you're also gonna want mplayer-fonts
[10:03] <dev> pretty smart huh
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> i know it plays xvid
[10:03] <delltony> blah wiith playing them
[10:03] <delltony> i'm wanting to mencode them
[10:04] <Computer__Guru> oh i duno beyond that
[10:04] <Computer__Guru> try it, can't hurt
[10:04] <delltony> it has to be compiled 
[10:04] <dev> delltony fix my internet
[10:04] <delltony> cause lame-dev is not installed on the pc by default
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> dev: is kubuntu on a different machine by chance? can you perform commands on it while yout alk to me?
[10:05] <delltony> but anyway ill keep on looking
[10:05] <dev> yes 
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> cool
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> open a terminal
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> and
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> lspci | grep therne
[10:06] <Computer__Guru> what comes up?
[10:06] <dev> hang on ok
[10:06] <dev> plzz
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> can i let go yet?
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> :D
[10:11] <delltony> you killed him
[10:11] <delltony> haha
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> i guess so
[10:12] <dev> ok
[10:12] <dev> sorry
[10:12] <dev> here
[10:12] <dev> spermie@Spermie:~$ lspci | grep therne
[10:12] <dev> 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> RESURRECTION!
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> okay
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> now
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> lsmod | grep net
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> spermie?
[10:13] <dev> Lol
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> lol, nice hostname
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> whoami:
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> jay
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> hostname:
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> psilocybin
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> :D
[10:13] <delltony> delltony
[10:13] <dev> =P
[10:13] <dev> what do i do after that
[10:14] <Computer__Guru> what was the output?
[10:14] <dev> didnt do anything
[10:14] <delltony> dev type /exec -o lsmod | grep net
[10:14] <Computer__Guru> try
[10:14] <Computer__Guru> lsmod | grep rtk
[10:15] <delltony> just curious what is the issue?
[10:15] <dev> didnt do anything
[10:15] <dev> well nothing came up on that command
[10:16] <Computer__Guru> funny, i dont have a loaded ethernet module either, according to lsmod
[10:16] <delltony> dev what is the issue?
[10:16] <dev> dont have internet
[10:16] <delltony> can't connect to internet on ethernet card 
[10:16] <Computer__Guru> his nic doesnt work
[10:16] <dev> never did on kubuntu firsttime install
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> wait, mine is 3c59x
[10:17] <delltony> type /exec -o cat /etc/network/interfaces 
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> have you tried ifup -a
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> ?
[10:18] <dev> no
[10:18] <delltony> if its not listed in the interfaces the ifup is not gonna wor
[10:18] <delltony> err work
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> try typing: ifup -a
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> it might be listed tho
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> type: lsmod
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> and see if you see your realtek there
[10:18] <delltony> i was waiting for the output of the command
[10:19] <delltony> are you on a router?
[10:19] <delltony> type sudo dhclient
[10:19] <dev> said ifup: interface lo aready configured
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> so it's not there
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> holdon
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> lemme see if i can find the module you need to insert
[10:20] <delltony> can you please type whats in interfaces
[10:20] <dev> delltony hey the comand u gave, it said no such file or directory
[10:20] <delltony> and answer my question of are you on a router
[10:20] <dev> yes
[10:20] <dev> but trust i know thats not the problem
[10:21] <delltony> so you don't have /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:21] <dev> yeah i do
[10:21] <delltony> then whats it say ini there
[10:21] <delltony> in regard to your eth0
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> i dont think it says anything
[10:21] <dev> well there wasnt no auto eth0 in there which should be
[10:21] <delltony> right
[10:22] <delltony> so tell me what it says
[10:22] <dev> that coomand u gave me didnt work tho so i cant really remember, i just remember looking in there with nano -w
[10:23] <delltony> well the /exec -o was for xchat to display to screen
[10:23] <delltony> but nano /etc/network/interfaces or open it in a text editor
[10:23] <delltony> and hit ctrl a and ctrl c and then come here and ctrl v
[10:23] <delltony> none the less
[10:23] <dev> alright
[10:23] <delltony> it should have the loopback of auto lo
[10:24] <Computer__Guru> try this
[10:24] <delltony> iface lo inet loopback
[10:24] <delltony> then it should have the map of the hotplug of
[10:24] <delltony> map eth0
[10:24] <Computer__Guru> insmod 8139cp
[10:24] <dev> whats that?
[10:24] <Computer__Guru> it's one of two kernel modules for the 8139 chipset
[10:25] <Computer__Guru> which you have
[10:26] <Computer__Guru> but that makes me wonder why in the name of the gods hotplug didnt do it for you
[10:26] <delltony> i'm goonna say its working
[10:26] <delltony> but dhclient hasn't assigned him a ip
[10:26] <delltony> cause of settings in the interfaces file
[10:27] <Computer__Guru> he'll know if it's working by doing an lsmod and finding something that starts with 8139
[10:27] <Computer__Guru> do:
[10:27] <Computer__Guru> lsmod | grep 8139
[10:30] <dev> sorry hang on
[10:37] <tommorris> Hey all
[10:37] <tommorris> Can someone please come and seed kubutu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso
[10:37] <tommorris> We're all stuck at 72.1%
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> wish i had it, bro
[10:38] <tommorris> Is there any way of formally requesting a seed?
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> you could try emailing the ubuntu team, i guess
[10:38] <tommorris> Cheers, I'll do that in a minute
[10:40] <tommorris> I wish BitTorrent had an option where you could provide a torrent but back it up with an FTP server - so if the torrent drops between 100% availability, the FTP server kicks in and seeds until it's fully available again.
[10:40] <tommorris> s/between/below
[10:55] <dev> hmm
[10:56] <dev> =--(
[10:57] <Computer__Guru> whats up dev?
[10:57] <dev> still aint working
[10:58] <Computer__Guru> do:
[10:58] <Computer__Guru> lsmod | grep 8139
[10:59] <dev> ok
[10:59] <Computer__Guru> what'd it do?
[11:00] <Computer__Guru> brb, i gotta fetch my noodles
[11:03] <Computer__Guru> im back
[11:03] <Computer__Guru> did it output anything?
[11:06] <dev> spermie@Spermie:~$ lsmod | grep 8139
[11:06] <dev> 8139cp                 19200  0
[11:06] <dev> 8139too                24320  0
[11:06] <dev> mii                     4736  2 8139cp,8139too
[11:06] <dev> spermie@Spermie:~$              
[11:06] <dev> thats what it said
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> okay, your driver is loaded
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> gimme a second
[11:07] <dev> ok
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> and add the following line
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> then
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> ifup eth0
[11:07] <Computer__Guru> that REALLY should work
[11:08] <dev> lol
[11:08] <dev> u remember dell tony
[11:08] <dev> he made me do this
[11:08] <Computer__Guru> what of him?
[11:08] <dev> delltony under priimary you want the following
[11:08] <dev> delltony iface eth0 inet static
[11:08] <dev> delltony address 192.168.15.210
[11:08] <dev> delltony netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:08] <dev> delltony gateway 192.168.15.1
[11:08] <dev> delltony auto eth0
[11:08] <dev> delltony then save the file
[11:09] <dev> delltony when that is done
[11:09] <dev> delltony then type sudo ifdown -a
[11:09] <dev> delltony sudo ifup -a
[11:09] <Computer__Guru> no screw all that
[11:09] <Computer__Guru> you dont want static
[11:09] <dev> lol
[11:09] <Computer__Guru> you want dhcp, right?
[11:09] <dev> i dont care i just want net
[11:10] <Computer__Guru> okay, so remove all that crap, add the line i told you then sudo ifdown -a then sudo ifup -a
[11:10] <Computer__Guru> that reminds me
[11:10] <Computer__Guru> this no root account shit really fucks some stuff up
[11:10] <Computer__Guru> im gonna add the root acct
[11:12] <dev>  iface eth0 inet dhcp i already had that in there tho before
[11:12] <dev> and still nothing
[11:12] <Computer__Guru> just homor me and try to ifdown/ifup it real quick
[11:12] <Computer__Guru> humor
[11:13] <Computer__Guru> cause i think isnmod'ing 8139 might have done it
[11:14] <markus> hello
[11:15] <markus> hot to rogin with root in KDE
[11:15] <Computer__Guru> what?!?
[11:15] <markus> any one alive ?
[11:15] <markus> *how
[11:15] <Computer__Guru> oh
[11:15] <Computer__Guru> holdon, ill get it for you
[11:15] <dev> Computer__Gur nothing =(
[11:15] <markus> i want change auto login for my user
[11:16] <Computer__Guru> to root?
[11:16] <markus> k
[11:16] <Computer__Guru> are you mad man?
[11:16] <markus> yes
[11:16] <Computer__Guru> are you using kubuntu?
[11:16] <markus> yes
[11:16] <Computer__Guru> you're gonna have to search the wiki, because before you can do that you have to enable the root account ont he entire system.. it's disabled by default
[11:17] <Computer__Guru> dev: is there a chance in hell the cable is bad?
[11:17] <Computer__Guru> brb
[11:17] <markus> where
[11:17] <markus> in where place 
[11:18] <markus> ??
[11:18] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[11:18] <Computer__Guru> in the ubuntu wiki
[11:18] <Computer__Guru> its explained how to activate the root account
[11:19] <markus> what about me ?
[11:19] <markus> any suggest
[11:19] <Computer__Guru> markus
[11:20] <Computer__Guru> the answer you are looking for is in the ubuntu wiki (for the third time)
[11:20] <Computer__Guru> you must ENABLE the root account, it is DISABLED by default in ubuntu
[11:20] <markus> i was do that
[11:20] <markus> here
[11:20] <markus> root@pc17:/home/pc17 #
[11:20] <markus> the root pass 123456
[11:20] <Computer__Guru> ok
[11:21] <Computer__Guru> you are actually root?
[11:21] <markus> i type that and kde says wrong pass
[11:21] <Computer__Guru> not sudo root?
[11:21] <markus> i get it from rescue mode
[11:21] <markus> and type passwd
[11:21] <markus> passwd 123456
[11:23] <Computer__Guru> ok
[11:23] <Computer__Guru> do this
[11:23] <Computer__Guru> edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[11:23] <dev> HOLLY FUCKING SHIT
[11:23] <Computer__Guru> and change AllowRootLogin=false to AllowRootLogin=true
[11:23] <Computer__Guru> then restart kdm
[11:23] <dev> WE GOT internet up in running
[11:24] <Computer__Guru> dev: how'd u dew it?
[11:24] <markus> ok
[11:24] <markus> dev lol
[11:24] <dev> lol
[11:25] <dev> trird another nic
[11:25] <dev> dont i feel like a jack ass
[11:25] <Computer__Guru> :D
[11:26] <dev> :(
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> it;s all good, if it works it works
[11:26] <dev> yup
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> welcome to ubuntu
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> now
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <raul33064> hi
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> quick, like a bunny
[11:26] <raul33064> hi everybody
[11:26] <Computer__Guru> hi raul33064
[11:27] <raul33064> hi computer_Guru
[11:27] <dev> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:27] <dev> i already have a desktop
[11:27] <dev> kdes up and running
[11:27] <Computer__Guru> oh i thought since you were in #kubuntu you'd want to install the kde desktop :D
[11:27] <Computer__Guru> oh
[11:28] <dev> oh i got the desktop
[11:28] <dev> 3.4
[11:28] <dev> i guess thats what it is
[11:28] <Computer__Guru> how'd you get the desktop without having internet?
[11:28] <dev> i dont have clue
[11:28] <dev> but i did it
[11:29] <Computer__Guru> you on the live cd?
[11:29] <dev> yeah
[11:29] <Computer__Guru> that explains it
[11:29] <dev> is this right.  sudo apt-get install gaim ?
[11:29] <Computer__Guru> can you install the live-cd to the hdd?
[11:29] <Computer__Guru> gaim is already installed
[11:30] <dev> its not poping up and i cant find it anywhere
[11:30] <Computer__Guru> dpkg -l '*gaim*'
[11:30] <dev> but yes to answer ur question
[11:30] <Computer__Guru> should be ii
[11:31] <dev> no packages found matching gaim
[11:31] <dev> thats what it said
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> oh
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> lol
[11:31] <dev> i dont think i got all the kde programs when i installed ir
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <dev> =(
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> then try again
[11:32] <dev> what do i do?
[11:32] <Computer__Guru> yeah you should have downloaded the ubuntu install disc then installed kubuntu
[11:32] <dev> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <dev> ?
[11:32] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get update
[11:32] <dev> ok
[11:32] <dev> said done
[11:32] <dev> didnt take long
[11:33] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <dev>  kubuntu-desktop already the newest version
[11:34] <dev> is what i said
[11:34] <dev> it^
[11:34] <Computer__Guru> i dunno, then.. run synaptic and select KDE (kubuntu) and check everything then apply
[11:34] <markus> sorry dc
[11:35] <markus> hey what the file i must edit it
[11:35] <markus> Computer_Guru
[11:36] <markus> are u there ??
[11:36] <Computer__Guru> it's /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[11:36] <markus> okay
[11:36] <dev> damn dont even have synaptic
[11:36] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:36] <pax> kynptic
[11:37] <Computer__Guru> kynaptic is evil
[11:37] <Computer__Guru> dont do it
[11:37] <Computer__Guru> that package is far from complete
[11:37] <markus> apt-get ??
[11:37] <markus> what about that
[11:37] <pax> too easy
[11:37] <Computer__Guru> what about it?
[11:37] <markus> Loading ............................................
[11:38] <pax> Computer__Guru: run last -d 
[11:38] <dev> said synaptic has no installation candidate
[11:38] <pax> tell me if you see some IP you dont recognise as logged in
[11:38] <dev> making me angery again
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> for what?
[11:39] <pax> confirming a bug
[11:39] <dev> i cant even apt-get anything
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> nope
[11:39] <pax> safe
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> i only see one ip address
[11:40] <pax> wich is?
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> mine :D
[11:40] <dev> =?
[11:40] <pax> dev?
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> wait, thats not my ip
[11:41] <dev> is there a reason y i can't apt-get anything?
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> pax whats your ip?
[11:41] <pax> LOL
[11:41] <pax> is it  194.135.4.8 ?
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> yes
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> wtf is that
[11:41] <pax> owned :/
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> but it shows up every time
[11:41] <pax> reinstall, fast
[11:42] <pax> just kidding it's a bug
[11:42] <pax> I found today 
[11:42] <Computer__Guru> okay,w hats the bug?
[11:42] <pax> I did reinstall beleive it or not
[11:42] <Computer__Guru> just that it shows that ip?
[11:42] <pax> I filed a report earlier
[11:42] <pax> yes
[11:42] <Computer__Guru> oh, ok
[11:42] <pax> russian IP
[11:42] <pax> unless
[11:42] <pax> ubuntu owns us all
[11:43] <Computer__Guru> wouldnt be so bad
[11:43] <Computer__Guru> always wanted to be part of a large distributed network project :D
[11:43] <pax> it shows up every time you login/reboot
[11:43] <dev> im getting agervated
[11:43] <dev> this blows horse cock
[11:44] <Computer__Guru> jay      :0           194.135.4.8      Sun Jul 10 02:31   still logged in
[11:44] <pax> dev what's the problem? network-admin?
[11:44] <pax> wep
[11:44] <Computer__Guru> dev: just download and install the install cd
[11:44] <pax> if only someone confirmed that before I reinstalled
[11:44] <pax> Computer__Guru: however do file a bug report so we can get attention
[11:44] <dev> i dunno, cant apt-get anythng
[11:45] <Computer__Guru> check your sources.list, dev
[11:45] <pax> dev what's in your sources.list?
[11:45] <Computer__Guru> what's in it?
[11:45] <dev> how do i get into that>
[11:46] <Computer__Guru> pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <Computer__Guru> hey does anyone know if k/ubuntu supports bootsplash out of the box?
[11:47] <Computer__Guru> i really dont wanna recompile my kernel, heh
[11:49] <antrix> Computer__Guru: Not AFAIK
[11:51] <dev> this is what was in my sources.list
[11:51] <dev> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main$
[11:51] <dev> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:51] <dev> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:51] <dev> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:51] <dev> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:51] <dev> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:51] <dev> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:51] <dev> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:51] <dev> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[11:51] <dev> ## repository.
[11:51] <dev> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:51] <dev> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:51] <dev> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:51] <dev> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:51] <dev> ## team.
[11:51] <dev> sorry for that
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> you need to uncomment any line that starts with deb or deb-src
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list 
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> and do that
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> then 
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get update
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> :)
[11:52] <dev> what do ya mean uncomment?
[11:53] <Computer__Guru> remove the #
[11:53] <dev> ok
[11:55] <dev> Awsome
[11:56] <dev> ur the best
[11:56] <jpatric1> why thank you
[11:56] <Computer__Guru> I try :)
[11:56] <jpatric1> ;)
[11:56] <dev> lol
[11:57] <jpatric1> :)
[11:57] <dev> now should i try the  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:57] <Computer__Guru> try this
[11:58] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:58] <Computer__Guru> to give yourself a complete ubuntu system
[11:58] <Anca> good morning
[11:58] <dev> i want kubuntu
[11:58] <Computer__Guru> and you will have it
[11:59] <dev> ok
[11:59] <Computer__Guru> since it's already installed, it will be included int he dist-upgrade
[11:59] <Anca> Computer__Guru: how can I upgrade my Mozilla Firefox? I have 1.0.2 and it asks for 1.0.4
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> www.mozilla.org?
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> *shrug*
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> lemme see what i have
[12:00] <nikkia> anca, you don't need to upgrade it
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> hai nikkia :)
[12:00] <dev> Computer__Guru im guessing this command will take a while huh?
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> <-- Jay316
[12:00] <nikkia> it is effectively 1.0.4, you just need to tell firefox to tell websites its 1.0.4
[12:00] <Computer__Guru> yeah
[12:00] <Anca> I tried to go to mozilla.org but I got lost while installing the upgrade
[12:01] <dev> will i have to edit or config anything when it's done?
[12:01] <Anca> aha, nikia, thanks for the info, going to dig :)
[12:01] <nikkia> anca, go to about:config, and look for general.useragent.vendorsub
[12:01] <nikkia> then set it to 1.0.4
[12:02] <nikkia> then restart firefox and you should be able to access the extensions pages etc
[12:02] <Computer__Guru> okay, i need to reboot to see if this bootsplash worked :)
[12:03] <Computer__Guru> bbiaf
[12:03] <jpatric1> brb
[12:04] <Anca> thanks nikkia, it works!
[12:04] <antrix> which is the X headers package? Compiling something at it's complaining abt missing X11/CoreP.h and X11/IntrinsicP.h
[12:04] <antrix> i already have libx11-dev installed.. 
[12:05] <nikkia> antrix, xlib-dev
[12:05] <nikkia> xlibs-dev even
[12:05] <markus> guy's what mean kernel panic ??
[12:06] <nikkia> marus, it means the kernel crashed
[12:06] <antrix> nikkia, ok. that pulled in another 14 packages.. installing now
[12:06] <nikkia> rather fatally
[12:06] <antrix> markus, congrats.. u've lived to tell the tale ;)
[12:06] <markus> ohh damm
[12:07] <markus> i will unintal and instal it again
[12:07] <nikkia> marus, there are a number of reasons why the kernel panics, the most common is probably because of an incorrect root=  on the boot commandline
[12:07] <dev> why cant i go to home> on kde?
[12:07] <nikkia> why doesn't my k key work properly ?
[12:07] <dev> for kubuntu
[12:07] <dev> ?
[12:07] <antrix> nikkia: wireless keyboard? ooh...
[12:08] <nikkia> antrix, yeah, and the batteries in it have been in it since i bought it, in december
[12:08] <dev> home
[12:08] <nikkia> dev, i'm not sure what you mean
[12:08] <dev> like going to my home folder^
[12:08] <nikkia> dev, the 'home' button works here
[12:09] <dev> and i dont even have a home button
[12:09] <nikkia> dev, konqueror has a home button, but only if its started as konqueror
[12:09] <nikkia> choosing 'home folder' from the 'computer' icon next to the K menu works too
[12:10] <nikkia> and that window has a home button too :)
[12:10] <nikkia> 4th button from the left on the iconbar
[12:10] <antrix> nikkia, i remember dos consoles had this trick of typing 'ALT+keycode' to get some character... any linux equivalent to that?
[12:10] <nikkia> the default icons don't much look like a 'home' to me, but there you go
[12:11] <nikkia> antrix, yes, there are a few different ways
[12:11] <dev> lol odnt have a home button
[12:11] <dev> anywhere
[12:11] <nikkia> antrix, the default, if you have a non-US keyboard, is that the alt-gr key acts as a compose key
[12:11] <dev> this install of kubuntu is screwed
[12:12] <nikkia> so if you hold down alt-gr and press 1, you get 
[12:12] <nikkia> hold down alt-gr and press ', then release alt-gr and press a, you get   and so on
[12:12] <antrix> nikkia, what's  gr in alt-gr?
[12:12] <nikkia> antrix, depends on who you ask :)
[12:12] <nikkia> its either 'graphics' or 'grey'
[12:13] <nikkia> if you have a US keyboard, you probably don't have a alt-gr key, as in the US both alt keys do the same thing
[12:13] <antrix> dev: wipe out your kde config files if u can afford to... 'cd $HOME; rm -rf .kde/'
[12:13] <antrix> nikkia, oh ok
[12:13] <dev> isnt htere suppose to be harddrive icons in ur home folder>
[12:14] <nikkia> antrix, there are other ways to set it, on a US keyboard, i used to set compose onto the windows menu key when i lived in the US
[12:14] <nikkia> antrix, you can change the way the keyboard behaves in the KDE control center, under regional & accessibility/Keyboard Layout/Xkb Options
[12:15] <antrix> nikkia, i don't want to! i was talking about you trying to type in 'k' with these workarounds :)
[12:15] <nikkia> antrix, oh, well, i dunno, it was just weird, each time i tried to type markus' nick, it wouldn't accept the k, but if i typed k elsewhere, it worked
[12:16] <nikkia> most likely the batteries are getting near flat, i have a spare pair here to swap in while these recharge tho, if they do die
[12:16] <antrix> too much Kde ;)
[12:18] <dev> amsucan some one look under link to apllication for home icon and see what the command is for me pleassse?
[12:20] <antrix> dev: try 'kfmclient openURL $HOME'
[12:24] <dev> hdarn didnt work
[12:24] <Anca> I want to install Java Runtime Envinronment for Mozilla Firefox, where should I install it?/usr/bin ?
[12:26] <dev> kfmclient openURL $HOME didnt work =(
[12:27] <Anca> nevermind, I found the answer :) thanks
[12:31] <dev> im getting this everytime i try to aptget something
[12:31] <dev> Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main gaim 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 [845kB] 
[12:31] <dev> Fetched 3617kB in 42s (86.0kB/s)
[12:31] <dev> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:31] <dev> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:31] <dev> spermie@Spermie:~$          
[12:31] <antrix> dev, did u try running 'apt-get update'
[12:31] <dev> yeah
[12:33] <antrix> and --fix-missing also?
[12:33] <dev> yup
[12:33] <nikkia> dev, do not use us.archive
[12:33] <nikkia> dev, edit sources.list and change all us.archive... hostnames to just archive...
[12:35] <dev> ok
[12:38] <dev> awsome
[12:38] <dev> xchat
[12:42] <dev> whats that one program called
[12:42] <dev> i think its gears
[12:48] <OculusAquilae> hi
[12:48] <Bubbling_Zombie> hello
[12:49] <OculusAquilae> if i install the qt4 packages above, can I use my old qt3 apps then, too
[12:50] <OculusAquilae> ?
[01:35] <jtyler4> I was working on a project witha  friend and now my kubuntu setup doesn't doo certainthing correctly. 
[01:37] <jtyler4> nick #Ret1n4l
[01:37] <jtyler4> ?
[01:38] <insanekane> Ret1n4l: which certain thing ?
[01:38] <Ret1n4l> one sec
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> jtyler4@batgirl:~$ sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> sudo: unable to lookup batgirl.localhost.localdomain via gethostbyname()
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> Password:
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras Release.gpg
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> 11% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com]  [
[01:39] <Ret1n4l> jtyler4@batgirl:~$
[01:40] <Ret1n4l> it gives me the error unable to lookup batgirl... often.
[01:40] <insanekane> yes ..
[01:40] <insanekane> you need to fix ...
[01:40] <insanekane> i will tell u the filename one sec pls
[01:40] <Ret1n4l> np
[01:40] <insanekane> Ret1n4l: /etc/hostname
[01:41] <Ret1n4l> ok. I found that when I googled and guessed as much. it has the correct name 'batgirl' but gives this error anyway. should it read 'batgirl.localhost.localdomain' ?
[01:43] <Ret1n4l> jtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hostname
[01:43] <Ret1n4l> batgirl.localhost.localdomain
[01:43] <Ret1n4l> batgirl
[01:43] <insanekane> no ..
[01:43] <insanekane> Ret1n4l: check /etc/hosts
[01:43] <insanekane> modify that
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> jtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hostname
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> batgirl.localhost.localdomain
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> batgirl
[01:44] <insanekane> (change the last entry on the line to batgirl)
[01:44] <insanekane> no ..
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> jtyler4@batgirl:~$ more /etc/hosts
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost batgirl
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[01:44] <insanekane> Ret1n4l: in /etc/hostname ... only one line 'batgirl'
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[01:44] <Ret1n4l> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[01:45] <Ret1n4l> gotcha. then start the eth0 card again?
[01:48] <uniq> you can also set the hostname with the 'hostname' command.
[02:31] <incubii> hows the GCC 4.0 transition going ?
[02:39] <McScruff> help me
[02:40] <McScruff> just installed amarok and it wont play any music
[02:40] <McScruff> but it works in xmms
[02:41] <incubii> you need to install the amarok engines
[02:41] <incubii> apt-get install amarok-engines
[02:41] <incubii> i think is what you need to type
[02:41] <McScruff> cheers, will g olook
[02:41] <McScruff> *go look
[02:47] <McScruff> worked a treat
[02:47] <McScruff> thankyou
[02:48] <incubii> no probs
[02:48] <McScruff> thought i was gonna die with no music
[02:48] <incubii> nah wouldnt let that happen
[02:48] <incubii> :P
[03:05] <incubii> heh
[03:11] <nerfid> woohoo!  Kubuntu live is up and running!
[03:39] <viriatus> hi
[03:39] <viriatus> i have a problem with kopete
[03:39] <viriatus> it crashes when i enable guarddog firewall
[03:41] <viriatus> does anyone know how to resolve this?
[03:47] <Zugwrack> Anyone know of any problems with Kubuntu and the PPS version?
[03:48] <gantc> hi, anyome can help me finding dvd codecs?
[03:49] <gantc> help me, please
[03:50] <skaag> I've installed an ATI Radeon 95xx and my Xorg server doesn't load
[03:50] <skaag> do I need to so something special for it?
[03:50] <Bubbling_Zombie> gantc, libdvdcss2
[03:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> skaag, try the fglxrdrivers (check www.ubuntuguide.org)
[03:51] <skaag> it's difficult to browse with console mode...
[03:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> ok, sec
[03:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> i'll cp 't it
[03:52] <Bubbling_Zombie> (you're now in console mode? :p )
[03:52] <gantc> i already try to install libdvdcss2.....it seems ok but the DVD does not work....
[03:52] <skaag> yes i'm in console
[03:52] <skaag> kdm won't start
[03:53] <skaag> I tried typing xorgcfg and it loads into X properly detecting the card, I guess, but then i'm just left in that grey thatch pattern of X, with the mouse, but with nothing to do :-)
[03:53] <gantc> is it due to a protection code in my DVD?
[03:53] <Bubbling_Zombie> normally not ganto
[03:53] <Bubbling_Zombie> skaag, try sudo kdm ?
[03:53] <gantc> ok, can you suggest me something?
[03:53] <buz> could be region code issues
[03:54] <Bubbling_Zombie> gantc, what is the error?
[03:54] <m01> kynaptic is not working for me, tells me "some packages cannot be retrieved", i tried the apt-get commands from the terminal with the same results
[03:54] <buz> http://www.whitedust.net/speaks/837/ F**K
[03:55] <Zugwrack> Anyone here running PPC?
[03:55] <Zugwrack> Anyone here running PPC?
[03:55] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: I tried, the screen blinks for a moment and it's back to prompt
[03:55] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm
[03:56] <Bubbling_Zombie> any descriptive errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[03:56] <skaag> 'no screens found'
[03:57] <gantc> I select the DVD icon and Kaffeine says tha i have no plugin to handle the resource.....what does it means?
[03:57] <Bubbling_Zombie> and another media player?
[03:57] <gantc> I try to see a descriptive log error
[03:58] <Bubbling_Zombie> skaag, does it report an error when it load modules or something? no screens found can be everything.
[03:59] <skaag> I scrolled up to the section where it probes for the video card, but it says it's an unknown chipset and stuff
[03:59] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm.
[03:59] <nikkia> skaag, is it a Radeon 9200SE ?
[03:59] <skaag> lspci -v shows an ATI Technologies card, 256M ram, by Gigabyte technologies
[03:59] <nikkia> obviously not
[03:59] <skaag> Radeon 9500 or 9550 something like that
[03:59] <skaag> just got it from the shop
[03:59] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver. 
[03:59] <nikkia> skaag, sometimes you need to force the fglx driver to recognise a specific card ID
[04:00] <skaag> they said if it won't work with linux, to bring it back and they will give me some nVidia card
[04:00] <skaag> nikkia: I see
[04:00] <nikkia> skaag, to be honest, you're better off with nvidia in linux
[04:00] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: installing
[04:00] <gantc> I tried to use xine......with the same result (I can se my DVD in.......windows xp.....sob!)
[04:00] <skaag> nikkia: I know, maybe that's what i'll do
[04:00] <nikkia> skaag, if they'll let you do that, i'd take the chance
[04:00] <Bubbling_Zombie> gantc, gimme a minut, gonna install kaffeine :')
[04:01] <skaag> nikkia: yah they are really cool people
[04:01] <nikkia> skaag, the ATI drivers are nothing but a hassle, and the nvidia stuff *generally* tends to run a little faster in linux anyway
[04:01] <gantc> I thank you very much zombie
[04:01] <skaag> nikkia: They are a shop that deals with PC, Mac, Linux, so they try to be helpful
[04:01] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: ok fglrx-driver is installed
[04:02] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo modprobe fglxr
[04:02] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo modprobe fglrx better
[04:04] <skaag> ok the module is loaded
[04:04] <Bubbling_Zombie> ok
[04:04] <nikkia> gah, k3b annoys me
[04:05] <nikkia> it has a habit of failing verify because of unicode filenames
[04:05] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: It notified that the ATI driver is proprietary and will taint the kernel
[04:05] <Bubbling_Zombie> in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf what does the "driver"  part of your device say?
[04:05] <Bubbling_Zombie> it has to be fglrx
[04:05] <skaag> checking
[04:05] <Bubbling_Zombie> that's normal.
[04:06] <mrabti> How i can Remouve The My computer Icone In Kde Barre And Put It in Desktop 
[04:06] <skaag> it was ati, I replaced it with fglrx
[04:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> ok
[04:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> retry sudo kdm
[04:06] <skaag> going to try to restart kd
[04:06] <skaag> m
[04:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> k
[04:06] <skaag> no go
[04:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> ow
[04:06] <skaag> but I think that's related to those monitor frequency settings missing
[04:06] <mrabti> Please How Can I do This 
[04:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> yeah skaag
[04:07] <Bubbling_Zombie> wait a minute
[04:07] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <skaag> no that wasn't it.. ok i'm waiting
[04:07] <skaag> ok
[04:07] <McScruff> I Love Foo Fighters
[04:07] <Bubbling_Zombie> it's gonna walk you through a setup
[04:07] <Bubbling_Zombie> you'll see
[04:08] <skaag> yes I found fglrx and it found the ATI card
[04:08] <gantc> mrabti.....just left click on the icon and slide it on the desktop
[04:08] <skaag> should I use the kernel framebuffer interface?
[04:09] <Bubbling_Zombie> no clue for ati. read the description and take the safest bet
[04:09] <skaag> BTW I see my v4l module is not enabled, can I enable it?
[04:09] <skaag> yes I took the safer bet
[04:09] <Bubbling_Zombie> depends on your setup :)
[04:09] <mrabti> It doesn't Work 
[04:10] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: doesn't work :-(
[04:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> try
[04:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo killall kdm
[04:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo kdm
[04:10] <skaag> ah but now it's the frequency lines missing
[04:11] <Bubbling_Zombie> try inserting them?
[04:11] <skaag> I inserted them
[04:11] <skaag> no good
[04:12] <skaag> I killed all previous kdm instances
[04:12] <gantc> it is possible tha your  configuration does't allow programs in the desktop.....try with a normal file first
[04:12] <McScruff> is GStreamer good for amarok
[04:12] <ep> What can I use to play ogg or wav files from the command line?
[04:12] <mrabti> With A Normal File It work 
[04:12] <gantc> well mrabti......
[04:13] <mrabti> But Trash Or System doesn't Work 
[04:13] <McScruff> whats the best sound engine
[04:13] <gantc> now you can configure your destop setting.......
[04:13] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: I don't understand, running xorgcfg with no -textmode parameter gives me a nice graphical X background, with a working mouse pointer
[04:13] <Bubbling_Zombie> yeah
[04:13] <skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: But kdm won't start! :-o
[04:13] <skaag> for me, that does not make much sense
[04:13] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm
[04:13] <Bubbling_Zombie> to me neither
[04:13] <Bubbling_Zombie> :p
[04:13] <McScruff> bbl work needs me :(
[04:14] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh, btw gantc : for your dvd: go to "Settings" -> "Xine engine parameters" -> "Media" -> and change dvd device to /dev/cdrom
[04:15] <gantc> ok zombie
[04:15] <Bubbling_Zombie> and skaag. Try making a .xinitrc file in your home directory and put startkde in it
[04:15] <Bubbling_Zombie> see if _that_ starts
[04:15] <Bubbling_Zombie> (with startx)
[04:16] <skaag> ok it works now
[04:16] <skaag> i disabled the usage of the kernel's framebuffer device interface
[04:16] <skaag> that's all it was
[04:16] <Bubbling_Zombie> kdm works?
[04:16] <skaag> so now it's working with fglrx
[04:16] <skaag> yes
[04:16] <skaag> i'm moving to X based IRC, brb
[04:23] <boga> how do I make kubuntu see a digital usb camera?
[04:24] <insanekane> it already should i think
[04:24] <insanekane> boga: after plugging it in ... did you open Storage Media ?
[04:25] <boga> yes and nothing is there!
[04:25] <Skaag> It's nice to at last see the GL Screensavers working :-)
[04:25] <insanekane> hmm
[04:25] <Skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: Thanks for the help man!
[04:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> np
[04:25] <Skaag> it still is not very stable
[04:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> mm?
[04:25] <Skaag> I tried switching to console and back and the whole box froze
[04:25] <insanekane> i think there is something related to digital cameras in Control Centre -> System Administration or Peripherals ?
[04:27] <Skaag> Bubbling_Zombie: Also I can no longer access the display control panel that allows me to switch resolutions
[04:27] <supernix>   Yo wassup
[04:27] <insanekane> boga: i think there is something related to digital cameras in Control Centre -> System Administration or Peripherals ?
[04:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh great <_<
[04:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> sounds like a driver issue to me. Unfortun. i'm on a nvidia card and know jack **** about radeon...
[04:28] <Skaag> :-)
[04:28] <Skaag> It says my RANDR extension is not installe
[04:28] <Skaag> d
[04:29] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm, i'm gonna google around a bit
[04:29] <Skaag> me too
[04:29] <Skaag> now it's easier
[04:29] <supernix> When I try to view a page with flash using mozilla it causing Mozilla to crach any ideas what is up /
[04:31] <supernix> crash*
[04:31] <Bubbling_Zombie> Skaag, you're not a dutch speaker by any chance. I found a dutch guide ^-^
[04:32] <m01> any ideas why kynaptic or apt-get wont install mozilla for me?
[04:32] <Skaag> no but google can convert
[04:32] <Skaag> and I can understand a bit of dutch, but just a bit
[04:32] <buz> supernix same here
[04:32] <Bubbling_Zombie> :')
[04:32] <buz> i gave up on it :(
[04:35] <Bubbling_Zombie> Skaag, try the wiki?
[04:35] <Skaag> what wiki?
[04:35] <Bubbling_Zombie> ubuntu
[04:36] <Skaag> ah
[04:36] <clemux> hello
[04:36] <Skaag> checking
[04:36] <clemux> happy birthday spiral :)
[04:36] <spiral> clemux: shut up
[04:36] <Hikaru79> Just wanted to congratulate everyone here who is on the dev team, on a job very well done! 
[04:36] <Skaag> spiral: happy birthday
[04:36] <Skaag> :-)
[04:37] <spiral> Skaag: grrrmpf
[04:37] <Skaag> :->
[04:37] <Bubbling_Zombie> :')
[04:37] <Bubbling_Zombie> happy birthday spiral <3
[04:39] <Skaag> hm... only xmms will play my flac files, amarok doesn't know what to do with them
[05:00] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with Kate?
[05:00] <Hikaru79> I just installed Kubuntu, on a fresh install, but Kate keeps giving:
[05:01] <Hikaru79> hikaru79@tux:~$ kate
[05:01] <Hikaru79> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[05:13] <m01> is there a problem with kubuntu's default repository?
[05:20] <apokryphos> m01: nope
[05:20] <uniq> us.archive.ubuntu.com does have some problems, doesn't it? 
[05:21] <apokryphos> It does sometimes, yeah. 
[05:28] <m01> i just installed kubuntu last night, im getting MD5Sum mismatchs on dependent packages,  im trying to install firefox
[05:30] <uniq> m01: execute this command in the shell: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
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[05:32] <uniq> m01: did you get that? 
[05:34] <m01> yea i input it
[05:34] <m01> thanks
[05:34] <uniq> good.
[05:34] <m01> still having no luck
[05:34] <uniq> do you use kynaptic? 
[05:35] <m01> ive tried kynaptic and using the apt-get command from the terminal, same results with both
[05:35] <uniq> and now you get the same error? 
[05:35] <uniq> did you execute 'apt-get update' ? 
[05:36] <m01> i beleive i tried that at some point
[05:36] <pax> good morning people
[05:36] <uniq> after changing /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <uniq> hi pax.
[05:37] <tuxJr_14> does kubuntu use a monolithic kernel?
[05:37] <tuxJr_14> atleast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu says so
[05:37] <m01> i think I have luck!
[05:38] <buz> some stuff is compiled statically, a lot is just modules
[05:38] <uniq> tuxjr_14: everything is modules. the kernel itself isn't that huge.
[05:38] <m01> it installed, it gave me an error when i first started firefox though
[05:39] <apokryphos> uniq: any idea where the default archive.ubu... is located?
[05:39] <pax> zambia
[05:39] <pax> just kidding.
[05:40] <buz> england i guess
[05:40] <uniq> london.
[05:40] <uniq> says traceroute.
[05:40] <buz> yeah london
[05:40] <m01> Thanks uniq, im all good, ur the man!
[05:40] <apokryphos> Really? Hmm. I should use that then instead of the gb.archive nice
[05:40] <buz> mhh no zlib fix so far :(
[05:40] <uniq> you're welcome m01.
[05:40] <pax> so uniq, you learned about the last bug?
[05:41] <pax> last as in the command
[05:41] <uniq> yes. i've seen the bugreport and the mail.
[05:41] <pax> that freaked me out man
[05:41] <pax> I went nuts :(
[05:42] <tuxJr_14> uniq, i think someone should update wikipedia on that
[05:43] <uniq> tuxjr_14: well.. linux is monolithic. but most drivers are modules. it's not like it's a microkernel
[05:53] <pax> firefox %u in Kcontrol > Component > Browse doesnt get you focus, why?
[05:53] <pax> browser*
[05:55] <seth_k> does for me, but I just use "in an app based on the contents of the URL"
[05:55] <seth_k> and make fox default
[05:55] <pax> how the hell are you seth_k :)
[05:56] <seth_k> no different from 12 hours ago :P
[05:56] <seth_k> get a response to your bug yet?
[05:56] <pax> yes I did. 
[05:56] <seth_k> excellent, what's the word
[05:56] <seth_k> or just a link if you want
[05:56] <pax> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8925
[05:57] <pax> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82540
[05:57] <pax> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=98659
[05:58] <pax> wb
[05:59] <seth_k> good, so it's a memory leak rather than a hax0r
[05:59] <seth_k> and the good news is it is fixed in devel
[05:59] <seth_k> because my copy shows the expected results, blanks
[05:59] <pax> no russian hax0r sux0red my bax0r
[05:59] <pax> seth_k: some people get it some dont.
[06:00] <pax> regardless of the release.
[06:00] <seth_k> hmm
[06:01] <seth_k> gotta run to church, back in a bit
[06:01] <pax> god bless
[06:07] <yoz> guys.. when I try to change to admin mode in kde's control center I get redirected to it's welcome page any clue what's wrong there?
[06:07] <apokryphos> yoz: known bug
[06:07] <sproingie> yoz: it's a bug.  get 3.4.1
[06:07] <apokryphos> check the guide
[06:08] <apokryphos> sproingie: I think it's still happening for some like that in 3.4.1 
[06:08] <yoz> pfff. shitty.
[06:08] <sproingie> bleah
[06:08] <sproingie> hasn't hit me yet 
[06:08] <yoz> is it possible to upgrade it via apt?
[06:08] <sproingie> try using settings:/ instead of kcontrol
[06:08] <pax> yoz: I get that too, sometimes.
[06:09] <sproingie> that sometimes works for me
[06:09] <apokryphos> yoz: you can still get around it, as the guide suggests. Run kdesu kcontrol
[06:09] <yoz> sproingie: lemme check.
[06:09] <sproingie> yoz: see the topic, last url
[06:09] <yoz> apokryphos: yeap..
[06:09] <apokryphos> yoz: then you'll be in administrator mode
[06:10] <pax> kdesu seems to cure many kde apps problems
[06:10] <yoz> apokryphos: thanks alot.
[06:11] <yoz> "Need to get 98.3MB of archives." mkay that's neat! 
[06:13] <yoz> what I'm trying to do is to modify a karamba theme which should fit my needs.. though the fontcolor is sucky and I really cannot change it. 
[06:14] <yoz> do you guys tried to modify one and such?
[06:15] <apokryphos> yoz: should be pretty easy from the .theme file
[06:15] <pax> yoz: kramba/superkaramba themes are text files.
[06:16] <apokryphos> Right-click > Edit theme  and just look for the font specifications
[06:18] <yoz> apokryphos: yeah.. that's what makes me ponder since I change the line let's say color=0,0,0 which is displayed in black to color=5,5,5 but nothing happes after reloading the theme.
[06:18] <gdh> 5,5,5 will be so dark grey it's almost black
[06:19] <apokryphos> yeah
[06:19] <yoz> since my wallpaper is black and the font black as well I'd like to have it white.
[06:19] <yoz> gdh: what's white then?
[06:19] <gdh> try 255,255,255 thing
[06:19] <gdh> s/thing/then/
[06:19] <yoz> lemme try.
[06:21] <yoz> gdh: looks much better now.. any clue what a dark grey is as code?
[06:21] <apokryphos> yoz: kcoloredit
[06:21] <yoz> apokryphos: cool
[06:21] <gdh> yoz: probably about 40,40,40
[06:21] <gdh> jsut adjust the values until you get one you like :)
[06:21] <yoz> gdh: yeap ;) thanks for your help!
[06:22] <penguinboy> morning, geeks, nerds, and Linux gurus!!!
[06:23] <yoz> kcoloredit is not installed here.. *sigh*
[06:23] <yoz> gdh: you were quite right ;) guessed?
[06:23] <apokryphos> yoz: sudo apt-get install kcoloredit ;-)
[06:24] <yoz> apokryphos: I tried yet, though my source list doesn't fit that ;) it can't be found.. 
[06:24] <apokryphos> hm, do you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[06:26] <yoz> apokryphos: I do.. not on every line.. lemme add it and I try again!
[06:27] <apokryphos> yeah, it's in Universe
[06:27] <apokryphos> handy lil' prog
[06:28] <yoz> I do believe.. btw I like this way ubuntu is managing this stuff with restricted, universe, multiverse pretty cool..
[06:29] <delltony> can someone look at this http://pastebin.com/310406 and explain to me what needs to be done to get the mplayer too compile?
[06:30] <apokryphos> yeah, they're kind of necessary. Main is officially supported stuff, Universe and Multiverse is not, while Multiverse also has things that don't meet the Ubuntu "main" Component Licence Policy
[06:31] <apokryphos> delltony: Heh. I got a similar error on trying to compile kdebase. I've had a bug report out there for quite some time now, a post on LinuxQuestions, and post on the mailing list, but no luck yet
[06:32] <delltony> thanks
[06:32] <yoz> apokryphos: I installed.. got my color how do I know what info to grab out there?  H R S G V B...
[06:32] <delltony> just trying like hell to get libmp3lame too compile nt t
[06:33] <delltony> so i can mencode dvds to xvid with mp3 support
[06:33] <apokryphos> yoz: just take the R, G, B values respectively
[06:34] <yoz> apokryphos: mkay.. makes sense..
[06:48] <yoz> apokryphos: another question.. I'd like to start a theme on startup.. I created a file in .kde/Autostart/ with the following entry: karamba /home/yoz/super_user/karamba_themes/kstatus/kstatus.theme but it doesn't work.. how to I execute it on startup?
[06:48] <yoz> ah and #!/bin/bash at the top.
[06:49] <uniq> is it set executable? 
[06:49] <apokryphos> yoz: you shouldn't need to do that. If you leave skaramba running when you log out, it should open up automatically next session
[06:49] <apokryphos> also, the executable is superkaramba (not karamba) :)
[06:49] <yoz> apokryphos: I did actually.. should I restart current session?
[06:50] <apokryphos> yoz: remove that stuff from the Autostart/ and try it out, yeah.
[06:50] <yoz> ok.. brb.
[06:53] <yoz> apokryphos: it's shitty.. karamba crashes when I end current session =/
[06:54] <yoz> apokryphos: I removed it, purged it, and reinstalled it but it keeps crashing!
[06:54] <apokryphos> weird. Does it crash without you ending current session? What version are you running there? 0.36, I take it?
[06:55] <yoz> apokryphos: karamba: 0.17 hmm wtf.
[06:55] <apokryphos> haha. Not even superkaramba? What are you doing :P
[06:55] <apokryphos> why not use the repositories? :)
[06:56] <yoz> I did.. I thought karamba and superkaramba are the same.. hold on ;)
[06:56] <apokryphos> I think it became superkaramba after version 0.17 actually, or something
[06:56] <yoz> good to know. ;) apt's doing his job rigth now.
[06:57] <yoz> much better now.. I'm out to check it again!
[06:59] <apokryphos> I think it would be hard to find a decent theme that uses plain karamba, funnily enough 8)
[07:04] <yoz> apokryphos: works fine now.. and my desktop looks good 8) thanks for your help!
[07:05] <apokryphos> Cool; no problem. 
[07:07] <yoz> apokryphos: http://yoz.projectosiris.net/data/screenshots/kubuntu1.png ;)
[07:07] <apokryphos> Very nice. Is that Borealis or something like that?
[07:08] <apokryphos> Used it once in the past. Converted the xmms nonsense to amarok, as I recall ;-)
[07:08] <yoz> apokryphos: which one? the theme you mean?
[07:08] <apokryphos> your icon theme is keeping you back though :P. There's better ones out there. 
[07:08] <apokryphos> yoz: yup
[07:08] <yoz> apokryphos: neah it's kstatus.. and you mean the greenish one as kicon in the tray?
[07:09] <apokryphos> yoz: no, as in the superkaramba theme
[07:09] <supernix>  Hi anyone know how to verfiry the symlink for the mozilla flash plugin ?
[07:10] <yoz> apokryphos: ah.. where should I look for better one?
[07:10] <apokryphos> supernix: ls -l
[07:10] <apokryphos> yoz: no, I didn't say it was bad... just wondering what the name was
[07:10] <apokryphos> As I said, I used an a slightly altered one in the past
[07:10] <yoz> apokryphos: kstatus got it from kde-look as I recall.
[07:10] <_shawn> I've been wondering why did they change the name to superkaramba is it just cuz it sounds cooler?
[07:10] <apokryphos> Icon theme could do with changing ;-). kdelook.org is the best place for all icandy on KDE
[07:11] <apokryphos> _shawn: super coolness, I guess :P
[07:11] <yoz> apokryphos: I'm about to check them ;)
[07:11] <supernix> where do i kook
[07:11] <supernix> look*
[07:11] <apokryphos> yoz: I'm pretty sure the skaramba theme there isn't called kstatus...
[07:11] <yoz> apokryphos: wait..
[07:11] <apokryphos> supernix: cd to the directory that it's in, then ls -l 
[07:11] <supernix> ah ok
[07:11] <yoz> apokryphos: yoz@hp:~/pics/screens$ ls /home/yoz/super_user/karamba_themes/kstatus/
[07:12] <yoz> apokryphos: no idea then.. that's what I get when I untar'ed it.
[07:12] <apokryphos> yoz: Ah, my mistake, so it is. 
[07:12] <yoz> *grin*
[07:13] <yoz> =P
[07:13] <supernix> well i see it in /us/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:13] <apokryphos> supernix: if the sym link is broken it should flash when you do an ls; red, I think
[07:14] <apokryphos> supernix: what are you trying to get it working for, firefox?
[07:14] <supernix> i wish
[07:14] <supernix> trying to get it in mozilla
[07:15] <apokryphos> supernix: installing libflash-mozplugin and flashplayer-mozilla didn't do the trick?
[07:15] <supernix> nope
[07:15] <apokryphos> actually, I think the former is just an alternate of the latter
[07:15] <apokryphos> Mozilla should check in something like ~/.mozilla/plugins for it -- is it there?
[07:16] <supernix> I tried to isntall FIrefox but it talked about wanting to install gnome components and so I backed down
[07:16] <supernix> I like Firefox better than Mozilla and I see the plugins in the Mozilla plugin info page
[07:16] <apokryphos> supernix: That's if you get it from the repos. If you manually install it (easiest one ever.. no compiling), then you'll be alright.
[07:16] <apokryphos> Though I'd easily use Konqueror or Opera before Firefox or Mozilla
[07:17] <apokryphos> p.s. flash works fine in my mozilla here...
[07:17] <supernix> I get the flash fine with Konqueror but when I was looking at the Zaxby site the links would not work even though the flash did
[07:18] <supernix> apokryphos, where do you recommend getting the installer for Firefox then ?
[07:18] <apokryphos> there's an easy guide on the wiki; one sec
[07:18] <apokryphos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox
[07:19] <supernix> LOL I went to shockwave.com with Mozilla and crashed that sucker imediately on page load
[07:19] <apokryphos> hehe
[07:19] <supernix> So let me get this straight you prefer Konqueror over Firefox ?
[07:20] <apokryphos> 1000%, yes
[07:20] <apokryphos> (Opera, definitely, too)
[07:20] <apokryphos> shockwave.com loads fine in Mozilla here :P
[07:20] <apokryphos> perhaps some of the plugins aren't configured properly, I'd imagine
[07:21] <apokryphos> Konqueror is faster: both as starting up and as loading pages; KDE intergration is great too, of course.
[07:22] <apokryphos> Only thing I think FF did great was their search. Clean, not intrusive/obstructive, convenient
[07:22] <gdh> yum, telling KDE to keep a Konq preloaded is lovely - click and a browser is instantly on-screen :)
[07:26] <supernix> ah man I went to that wiki page and now it crashed Konqueror I can't get it to close either
[07:28] <apokryphos> supernix: odd. Just killall konqueror if need be
[07:32] <supernix> man everything got freaky just then
[07:33] <supernix> I had to run ctrl+alt+backspace to recover
[07:36] <apokryphos> eek
[07:42] <supernix> what was that URL again ?
[07:42] <gdh> [18:18]  <apokryphos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox
[07:42] <gdh> ?
[07:43] <supernix> ty very much not sure why that was not in my URL grabber in Xchat
[07:44] <apokryphos> gdh: Hm, I thought that it didn't require GTK. Not exactly sure why... trying to think what else it would use (more troublesome is the fact that it's a GTK app)
[07:45] <apokryphos> supernix: so installing it that way would actually be pretty useless for you, if you don't want any GTK stuff. Sorry :-S
[07:45] <gdh> apokryphos: You'd think that a 10MB binary package might include its own private fork of GTK.. but no, it's just a web browser :)
[07:45] <apokryphos> gdh: it does have a snazzy installer though :P
[07:46] <apokryphos> To tell you the truth, I find those more annoying. Much rather have a simple .deb that works straight away
[07:46] <gdh> having GTK installed is no issue, it's just a handful of libraries in /usr/lib ... I can understand not wanting GNOME libs / daemons / gconf etc. running, though
[07:46] <supernix> I honestly don't know what GTK is yet
[07:47] <gdh> GTK is to GNOME what Qt is to KDE :) - it's the underlying UI toolkit
[07:47] <gdh> dealing with all the buttons / dialogs, etc.
[07:47] <supernix> OIC
[07:48] <apokryphos> gdh: only real reason I'd say is if you're low on space
[07:48] <supernix> seems like if it were built on GTK then it would not work well in KDE since it uses QT
[07:48] <apokryphos> supernix: it would work fine, but would take longer to load etc.
[07:48] <supernix> ah
[07:49] <supernix> but once it loaded would it still run good ?
[07:49] <apokryphos> Qt is of course better than GTK :P
[07:49] <apokryphos> It runs ok. I still wouldn't really use it though
[07:49] <supernix> :D makes me feel better for choosing KDE over Gnome then
[07:49] <apokryphos> you can make the GTK apps look pretty still though in KDE now with the engine
[07:52] <apokryphos> adios
[08:16] <_thomas> evening
[08:16] <uniq> hi.
[08:16] <_thomas> I search for a programm like fireworks under win
[08:16] <uniq> what does it do? 
[08:17] <uniq> like macromedia fireworks? 
[08:17] <_thomas> I can create graphic and i can create slices for web publishing
[08:17] <_thomas> yes
[08:18] <_thomas> I have found pixel32, but it is not under the GPL
[08:19] <insanekane> i think GIMP has that feature
[08:20] <_thomas> is that a plugin?
[08:25] <uniq> _thomas: gimp is a image manipulator program. http://gimp.org/
[08:25] <uniq> you can install it from the kynaptic package manager.
[08:33] <_thomas> is that a plugin for gimp
[08:39] <_thomas> where can I find it?
[08:50] <chx> I plan to buy a Razer Diamondback mouse. Anyone using that under Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Nach> Is there a list somewhere of what comes on your Live CD?
[08:56] <Riddell> Nach: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-live-i386.list
[08:58] <Nach> Do you have an AMD64 CD?
[08:58] <Nach> oh, no GCC, oh well, nevermind
[09:02] <Ret1n4l> I'm looking for a system for documents like CVS. will CVS do controlled access to versions of documents? or is there something else just for documents?
[09:14] <Riddell> Ret1n4l: CVS will do fine (as will Subversion or baz etc etc)
[09:19] <Ret1n4l> Ridell: thanks much
[09:36] <fumbalah> I want to setup a local ubuntu mirror, does anyone know of a script I can use to update it every night
[09:37] <Riddell> fumbalah: rsync on cron?
[09:37] <fumbalah> Never been that great on writing cron jobs, but I guess it's worth a shot
[09:41] <Computer__Guru> hai
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> just needed to underline your routine with a little exercise?
[09:55] <Computer__Guru> that sucked
[10:08] <Zugwrack> Hey everyone...wow too cool..Kubuntu for PPC! Ok some minor problems...no sound and more importantly no routing to the internet...
[10:09] <Zugwrack> I edited the network settings gave a static ip..saw that the gateway was reversed...checked the dns it is ok...I can ping to the router not out to the world..so I am booted into OS X to get assistance
[10:09] <buz> airport express cards aren't suported
[10:09] <Zugwrack> buz: I am not using an airport card....it is the builtin that came in my dual G4
[10:09] <buz> mhh that should work
[10:10] <buz> after giving static ip, did you fix routing?
[10:11] <Zugwrack> the gateway was reversed so yes I changed it from(no this is not my router gateway ip) 101.1.10.10 to the other way around...
[10:11] <Zugwrack> 10.10.1.101
[10:11] <buz> can you do a netstat -r?
[10:11] <Zugwrack> I know the nic is up and working cuz I can ping the gateway ip
[10:12] <buz> sounds a lot like a routing issue
[10:12] <Zugwrack> Yes.....how about sound?
[10:12] <buz> no idea
[10:12] <Zugwrack> anyone here had sound problems on PPC?
[10:26] <Zugwrack> Just wanted to report that kubuntu if fskded on PPC....I booted back in after asking a question...saw a name resolution error on boot...went into the network interface settings...tried to use administrator mode...it would accept my password..and then not let me in to edit anything....it sucks
[10:26] <Zugwrack> I will install the gnome version it works
[10:27] <MikeStyle> how would i install java on firefox in kubuntu
[10:38] <kkathman> Has anyone taken KOffice 1.4 for a spin yet to see if its useable?
[10:38] <buz> mhh if you dont expect it to import word files, yes
[10:39] <kkathman> hmmm..well, I cant see that really as being really significant, because there isnt much way you'd get compatibility anyway because of fonts
[10:40] <gdh> no never mind about right fonts / layout. 80% of the .docs I try to open cause KWord to freeze :)
[10:40] <kkathman> ewwwwww thats not good
[10:40] <kkathman> what about its own documents?
[10:41] <gdh> whizzes through a progress gauge up to 100% then does nothing until I kill it.. same thing on multiple fresh installs.
[10:41] <gdh> kkathman: Who uses those? :)
[10:41] <kkathman> hehe
[10:41] <gdh> I'm living in the real world, here :)
[10:41] <kkathman> well true I understand gdh, but I've made similar statements and got crucified because of em .. I live in the real world too :)
[10:41] <gdh> So I have to wait for the behemoth OO Writer to grind inexorably into 'action'
[10:42] <gdh> :)
[10:43] <kkathman> I have so tried to move my web development into Linux but I just cant find anything as productive as what I've built on my Windows box
[10:44] <kkathman> Not that the tools are bad in Linux mind you...they arent bad at all, but for me Dreamweaver is so productive for me, even with some of its idiosynchricies :)
[10:45] <gdh> aye, DW is the impossible one with Wine :)
[10:45] <kkathman> yep...my mainstays in Web development are DW and Photoshop and neither does that well under Wine.
[10:48] <paines> qt4 for kubuntu ?!?! wow
[10:49] <paines> but, is anything linked against it yet ?
[10:50] <yoz> evening geeks..
[10:51] <yoz> guys.. got a german keyboard here. set the layout to german as well though I have no pipe key.. it seems to be disabled at all.. any clue here?
[10:52] <paines> yoz, du musst in der xorg.conf bei optionen nodeadkeys angeben
[10:52] <paines>  Option          "XkbOptions"    "nodeadkeys"
[10:52] <yoz> paines: ah das habe ich mir fast gedacht.
[10:52] <yoz> paines: gut zu wissen das hier auch deutsch gesprochen wird ;)
[10:52] <yoz> s/das/dass
[10:53] <yoz> paines: wo finde ich das genau?
[10:53] <yoz> paines: gibts ein men dafr?
[10:53] <yoz> paines: oder in der konsole?
[10:54] <paines> yoz: ne hier wird eigantlich englisch gequaselt, aber ich machs gerade nur damit es schneller geht
[10:54] <paines> nee. das musst du per hand einfgen
[10:55] <paines> sorry guys, i just described him how to do it in german
[10:59] <fromoze> Hi, I 'm trying breezy and I see there's a big bug on qt: I can't write tildes over the lettres... 
[11:00] <fromoze> others toolkits work normally
[11:01] <fromoze> It's  known bug?
[11:02] <kismet-nohd> has anyone managed to use a pcmcia Prism2 card with kismet *monitor mode* running off CD on a laptop with NO hard drive?
[11:03] <paines> kismet-nohd: yes, with auditor distribution
[11:04] <kismet-nohd> sorry, i do not understand
[11:05] <paines> i used kismet with the linux auditor distribution together with an prism2 card
[11:06] <kismet-nohd> did you have to edit kismet.conf or download/compile any extra software to be able to use kismet on monitor mode?
[11:07] <paines> good question, that was some while ago
[11:07] <paines> really can't remeber
[11:07] <kismet-nohd> how long ago??
[11:08] <yoz> paines: did that, even did a reboot but this key is still disabled.. *sigh*
[11:09] <paines> kismet-nohd: almost a year i think
[11:19] <alexissoft> hi
[11:56] <fumbalah> is there anyway to ignore a md5sum mismatch
[11:56] <fumbalah> I cant install gaim or firefox because apt is giving that error on a package