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[10:53] siretart: the adress I used to sign my package ? [10:55] yes. I don't know who you are in the database :) [10:57] siretart: loic@dev.erodia.net [10:59] pef: ok, try this as login, then press the recover password link [11:17] siretart: works perfectly, thank you :) [11:17] :) [11:26] howdy motus [11:26] how is it going? [11:27] hi :) === tiglionabbit [~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart needs more bandswith :) [11:33] siretart: we all do ;-) [11:33] I thought so :) [11:35] Lathiat: ping [11:41] sivang: check out this one: grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends xlibmesa-gl-dev Sources-breezy -sPackage,Build-Depends [11:42] (with Source-breezy being http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/{main,universe}/source/Sources.gz unpacked and concatenated === muszilla [~mussgill@p213.54.85.254.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~mez@82.13.236.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1130.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] 'day === dholbach [foobar@td9091cff.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] hellas [11:54] hi dholbach === ivoks needs an advice [11:55] i'm planing to develop gtk backup utility === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] what do you think, is it easier/better to do it with perl or python? [11:55] python of course [11:55] ok === vedran [~konversat@195.130.52.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] python :) [11:56] hey vedran [11:56] ok :) [11:56] hey [11:56] vedran: hm... [11:56] bih :) [11:57] yes [11:57] ok, i hope i'll finish it beffore summer end [11:57] shouldn't be too much problems with that... [11:57] ivoks: that sounds awesome === womble [~mpalmer@eth1859.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] evenutally, i'm planing to create some integration with bacula [11:58] but that will not be finished this year :) [11:58] i'm using the debian maintainers guide [11:58] but i have problem with part "modifying" [11:58] that's way to complicated [11:58] is there any simpler way [11:58] vedran: ako hoces, mogu ti ja pomoci... lakse ce ti biti shvatiti hrvatski, mozda :) [11:58] vedran: what goes wrong? [11:58] guys, vedran works on the lightweight desktop bounty for us... [11:58] :-D [11:59] ogra: hi [11:59] plz wait a sec [11:59] hey ivoks [11:59] ogra: that's that guy from bosnia you were telling me? [11:59] ivoks, yes [11:59] :) [11:59] ok [11:59] it mentions file /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz [11:59] since we talk same language, i could give him a help [12:00] there's a line that says export BLAHBLAH =? blahblah i don't have it here === DanielN [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] it doesn't work [12:00] with great plans like working desktops on p1 133/32MB :) [12:00] vedran: if you tell us what you're trying to do, we can try to help :) [12:00] ogra: but... [12:00] ubuntu doesn't install on so little RAM [12:00] i'm trying to compile library libefltk [12:00] (http://ede.sf.net) [12:00] i tried on 40MB RAM [12:00] installer crashes [12:00] ivoks, yes, the installer probably needs some adjustment if possible... [12:01] its a Kamion question [12:01] woody's one works... [12:01] autotools doc says: export DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE ?= ($shell dkpg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) [12:01] installer should format swap partition and use it :) [12:01] dholback: this command doesn't work [12:02] @dholbach sorry [12:02] ivoks: i agree... ubuntulite installer does exactly that [12:02] ivoks: www.ubuntulite.org [12:03] vedran, they should provide a filelist... [12:03] i had to download the iso to find outwhat they ship [12:03] vedran: you're sure you need this? [12:04] ogra: that's true... installer needs work [12:04] and it contains the complete kde desktop.... [12:04] ubuntulite... with kde :) [12:04] heh, yes [12:04] lol [12:04] i think its only for the kde apps, but the libs should suffice there :) [12:04] hm... [12:04] no need for the whole desktop [12:04] vedran needs help [12:05] absolutely, he will have to repackage a few things and there will be new packages for ede [12:06] yes, just ede is new [12:06] but i'm new to dpkg... [12:06] vedran: you could try to use the default-debian/rules dh_make provides you with [12:07] (or use cdbs, which does this automagically) [12:07] lol [12:07] but anyway, i should get back to my other stuff [12:07] ok guys [12:08] wifi-radar still isn't in breezy :) [12:08] tnx dholbach [12:08] ivoks: it's a shame [12:08] well, do something :) [12:08] ivoks: i gave you my signature [12:08] i know [12:08] ogra: ? [12:08] PEOPLE: PLEASE REVIEW STUFF ON REVU! NOW! [12:08] ivoks: better? :) [12:08] :) [12:08] dholbach: make it mandatory :) [12:09] ivoks, ? [12:09] ogra: could you review wifi-radar on revu? [12:09] "If you sign this treaty, you're a MOTU, but take into account: you will have to review at least three packages a week or *horrible scenario* will happen." [12:10] :> [12:10] lol [12:10] dholbach, 3 a week O_O [12:10] ok 3 a day :) [12:10] lol [12:10] well, someone of us don't have life :) [12:11] ok... ivoks: you remind me of something: i'll get back to my thesis, so i'll be able to do more reviews soon [12:11] dholbach: go work on that, that's more important [12:12] and i only have 5-1 weeks left [12:12] hmm, other people say 4 instead of 5-1...... [12:12] this thesis has a bad influence.... [12:13] 5 weeks but one week i'll have no time :/ [12:13] omg, ede looks too much like windows [12:13] oh, i was worried you would start saying yesterday+2 instead of tomorrow soon.... :) [12:14] ivoks, hey, but works with ultrasmall footprint [12:14] ivoks: and why is that bad ;) [12:14] ogra: could be, didn't try it [12:14] vedran: couse windows is bad UI [12:14] cause even [12:15] vedran: khm.. [12:15] ogra: but that's ambiguous. What if people assumed that to mean 3 days ago? [12:15] but there is ede debian package [12:15] ivoks: there is??!? [12:15] ivoks: it may be bad but it's what most people know [12:15] and are easy to switch to [12:15] yep, but it isn't ede you are talking about :) [12:16] this is editor :)( [12:16] tiglionabbit, hmm, shouldnt that be yesterday-2 ? [12:16] give my grandma ede and she'll at least know where to click [12:16] unlike xfce or windomaker [12:16] ogra: it depends on what is the positive direction. It could be relative to the direction you're traveling, or to the direction time travels itself [12:17] phew :) [12:17] khm... [12:18] vedran: ok, you should then create metapackage that will install ede or icewm [12:18] guys look at this: [12:18] daniel@bert:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache -i unmet | grep ^Package | wc -l [12:18] 521 [12:18] daniel@bert:~$ [12:18] !!!OUCH!!! [12:18] uh [12:18] (it's on amd64, but still...) [12:18] 515 on i386 [12:18] 497 here [12:18] huh? [12:19] dholbach, 576 on i386 afaik [12:19] Lathiat: maybe without multiverse [12:19] in hoary thats 75 [12:19] eww we released with packages with unmet deps? ugly ;p [12:19] there is unmet in hoary?! [12:19] i have multiverse [12:19] but thats all only rebuild stuff... [12:19] we suck [12:19] :) [12:19] Lathiat: get cracking with us and we'll beat it down to zero [12:19] have launchpad users keys been added to revu ? [12:19] sounds like a plan [12:19] ogra: not only === Lathiat generates a list of big unmets [12:20] comadreja: don't think so [12:20] dholbach, according to doko it is... [12:20] even blender has unmet [12:20] comadreja: no revu is not related to launchpad in any way.. [12:20] yet, perhaps ;) [12:20] ogra: most of them surely are trivial to fix (rebuild, new build-dep) [12:20] siretart : could be good, I guess [12:20] ogra: but some are hard work (like the 75 we left out in hoary) === herzi [~herzi@c184037.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] dholbach: these are packages mostly broken cause of X [12:20] comadreja: yes, that would be nice [12:20] siretart : I'm gonna register as uploader [12:20] when packaging a mono/cli package where do the .exe files belong to? /usr/lib/dotnet/bin and cli-wrapper links in /usr/bin? [12:20] kdelibs4 has lots [12:20] great! :) [12:21] and lam4, som ekernel-image-2.4.27s [12:21] ivoks: we should compile a list on UniverseUnmetDeps and get cracking :) [12:21] dholbach, we left them outr in hoary and nobody complained ? [12:21] avifile, clanlib (c++, unmet builds?), libfltk1.1c102 [12:21] dholbach: that should be prio, yes [12:21] ogra: yep [12:21] gsal1, lots of libgmp3 [12:21] dholbach: can we eliminate main packages? [12:21] lots of gtkmm too [12:21] ivoks: yeah [12:21] and lots of libqt3c102-mt [12:21] dholbach, so it looks like nobody needs them :) [12:22] ogra: you know that we're not supposed to chuck out stuff too easily [12:22] dholbach, nope, but if no user cares... i do set it on high prio [12:22] ogra: high prio to chuck out? [12:22] dont, sorry [12:23] siretart : is this your current key ? [12:23] (2) Reinhard Tartler [12:23] 1024 bit DSA key 945348A4, created: 2005-02-12 [12:23] comadreja: yes, this is my key [12:23] siretart : thanks === dholbach nods towards ogra [12:24] SloMo_: there is a mono packaging policy in debian, perhaps thats the document you should look into [12:24] ask tseng about that [12:25] heh has a new one no idea if its released yet [12:25] ivoks: last time i sorted the lists a bit, i made categories for non-free stuff, kernel stuff, x stuff, java stuff, ... it'll be easier for us and for other guys (java team, kernel team, ...) to get cracking on those === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] SloMo_: try http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ and http://wiki.debian.net/?MonoConventions [12:26] SloMo_: but please get confirmation from tseng that these documents are also valid in breezy, I think so, but he is our authority ;) [12:26] dholbach: i'm reading mans to figure out how to sort these things :) [12:26] ivoks: :( i did it manually [12:26] ivoks: but i became VERY FAST with it ;) [12:26] lol no way [12:26] :) [12:26] siretart: yes i read them... and they're deprecated in favor of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CLIPolicy... but there is nothing written about that problem ;) [12:27] ivoks: but it'll be nice for motu hopefuls to get into the team by doing those simple things [12:27] it's a nice feeling to fix 20 packages by just some fingerstrokes :) [12:27] apt-cache -i unmet | grep ^Package | cut -d' ' -f2 [12:27] comadreja: do did not sign your message, whats your key? [12:28] I am not maintainer, but I have updated the kismet package to latest upstream version. Should I proceed to revu ? [12:28] comadreja: if you want to contribute a package for ubuntu, you can upload an candidate to review [12:28] thanks siretart [12:28] comadreja: which will be uploaded if ok [12:28] comadreja: but I need your keyid [12:29] siretart : oops [12:29] dholbach: but this aren't all broken packages [12:29] dholbach: take a look at blender [12:29] 5D7ACDEF [12:29] i can't install it [12:29] dholbach: bledner isn't on list, and yet, it's not possible to install it [12:29] oh well [12:29] siretart : or should I send the message again ? [12:29] comadreja: I added you to the keyring. upload a package, then a account will be created [12:30] ivoks: so we have MORE THAN 521 broken packages - MORE FUN! :) [12:30] :) [12:30] comadreja: use the "recover password" link to learn your password [12:30] need to go now, [12:30] cu folks! [12:30] half of breezy is broken [12:30] siretart: thanks a lot, bye ! [12:30] bye siretart [12:30] ivoks: you could use python-apt for the job :) [12:30] ivoks, i have to care for blander for edubuntu anyway.... so if nobody wants to touch it, leave it for me... [12:31] blender even [12:31] ogra: blender was example how that list doesn't show us all broken deps :) [12:32] ivoks, yes, there are a lot others :) [12:32] jesus... we have more than 500 broken packages [12:32] that's much more than cxx transition [12:32] :) [12:32] welcome to life :) [12:32] yay! :)) [12:33] but some of them could be easily fixed [12:33] that's why we need a fiery speech every morning to get more MOTU activists in the boat ;) === ogra dives back into xscreensaver hacking... too many depressive words here [12:33] if package that replaced libglu1, provides libglu1 :) [12:33] ivoks, fix it :) [12:33] it's main [12:34] that's alright [12:34] what's the name of the program used to upload a package ? [12:34] comadreja: dput [12:34] thanks [12:34] comadreja: wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads might be of help [12:35] comadreja: wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU too [12:35] ivoks, and ? patches accepted ;) [12:35] :) [12:35] universe [12:35] [12:35] mesa [12:35] [12:35] libglu1-mesa [12:35] [12:35] libglu1c2-mesa [12:35] [12:35] mesa_6.2.1-5ubuntu1 [12:35] uh, pardon for that [12:35] hehe [12:35] so, i guess... we should convert every app [12:36] or repackage libglu1c2? [12:38] anyway... i have to go now.. [12:47] i'm away again... :/ === janm [~jm__@202.172.110.47] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] I have uploaded a package to revu... should I ask for revision ? === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] how can avoid (during buildpackage) to generate config.log and config.status files? Otherwise tehy will be included in source directory and in diff.gz... [12:57] build-depend on autotools-dev and copy them over.... [12:58] ok! nice.. Thanks. [12:58] ogra: you mean config.{sub,guess} ? [12:58] dholbach, yes [12:58] thesaltydog: remove them in clean target? [12:58] ogra: he was talking about config.{log,status} [12:58] yes, too.. [12:59] dh_make should have added a stanza ... [12:59] ah, ok, blind me then [12:59] telephone.. === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] dholbach, yes, I think that removing them in dh_clean will be easier. [01:03] dholbach, oh oh... I just had a "clock-skew" warning... [01:03] dholbach, ?? [01:03] in the clean target [01:04] clock-skew? [01:04] no idea [01:04] dholbach, yes, just before dh_clean.. === ogra_ [~ogra@p5089EFA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] hey ogra_ ,dholbach [01:08] hi sivang, \sh :) [01:09] <\sh> *handandenkopfhalt* morgen [01:10] <\sh> oh...hehe..sorry === \sh is not updated enough this mornin... [01:10] \sh: selbst schuld [01:10] (judging by your blog entry) [01:11] \sh: or am i wrong? :) [01:11] <\sh> the problem is: until this time, I was quite ok...and no spinnings at all...but at 5 this morning [01:11] <\sh> i think the last koelsch... [01:11] haha [01:11] the last of 24 [01:12] <\sh> it's ok ... one day in the month i need a hard reset of /dev/brain [01:13] <\sh> btw...did anybody tried out vmware ws on breezy? [01:13] <\sh> i need a possibility to try the daily installs [01:14] dholbach, 24 ? pick a higher number :-P [01:14] <\sh> it was less then 24 [01:15] koelsch that's delicious ! [01:15] <\sh> 4 bottles I saw in the fridge just now [01:15] I remember a place... called the Frh (could that be?) [01:15] <\sh> yeah it was Frh Koelsch ;) [01:15] near the cathedral [01:15] you lucky ! [01:16] dholbach, I noticed that in the clean target the command -$(MAKE) clean is not executed. Object files (.o) are still in src diectory. [01:16] <\sh> brb [01:17] thesaltydog: what does running make clean manually give you? [01:17] it works fine! [01:18] hrm [01:18] drop the "-" and have a look what it gives you? [01:18] it says cannot fakeroot.. === susus [~sz@p5089EFA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] debuild: fatal error at line 841: [01:19] couldn't exec fakeroot debian/rules: [01:20] you could try to update-alternatives and change to another fakeroot [01:20] I will try [01:22] another fakeroot? [01:23] dholbach, fixed. [01:24] I was removing config.status before make clean. Just swapped lines. Now it goes! Thanks a lot! [01:25] thesaltydog: dont forget to add the "-" again [01:25] yes [01:25] excellent [01:27] <\sh> hmm..the kernel of breezy is compiled with 3.4? [01:27] yes, i think so [01:28] yep [01:29] <\sh> I'm trying to get vmware ws running...so I can test a bit more [01:50] <\sh> brb === Jhair [~jto@p54A3F287.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === muszilla [~mussgill@p213.54.85.254.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [02:16] Can I make a lirc upload with a small build-dep fix? [02:16] Treenaks, why not ? youre a MOTU... [02:17] youre supposed to fix things :) [02:17] yes [02:17] but UpstreamVersionFreeze etc. [02:17] so its a new upstream version ? [02:17] no, just build-deps [02:18] thats not affectzed then ... UVF is intended to fix existing packages and not get new crack in... so exactly what you want here [02:19] thus "Upstream"VersionFreeze [02:19] OK [02:20] yes, but just to be sure etc :) [02:20] I don't want to be chased by a mad Elmo ;) [02:21] he's in .fi he cant get is hands on you from there ;) [02:22] ogra: he might stop by on the way back [02:22] heh [02:34] hi folks [02:41] hello siretart === ogra wonders if someone recognized dilys in #ubuntu-bugs === slomo [~slomo@p5487B603.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-10.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] salut === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-10.info.com.ph] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:31] slomo: no [03:32] slomo: /usr/share/dotnet is deprecated (and this is mentioned in our CLIPolicy) [03:32] slomo: put the stuff where upstream does [03:34] tseng: so the .exe files and the cli-wrapper links will live side-by-side in /usr/bin ;) thanks, will do that [03:35] slomo: no? [03:35] they wont [03:35] .exe does NOT go in /usr/bin [03:35] /usr/lib/muine/muine.exe [03:36] /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe [03:36] etc [03:36] yes when the upstream buildsystem does it that way... but that isn't the case with nemerle. they put the .exe in the bindir which is /usr/bin when not specified otherwise [03:36] (what does cli-wrapper have to do with this?) [03:37] well in that case they are wrong [03:37] would you and the maintainer like to join #debian-mono? [03:38] meebey maintains monodevelop, he is probably also interested in what you do with it [03:39] ok, and what will be the right way to package it? (and cli-wrapper was used to create the binaries without .exe suffix in /usr/bin) [03:39] well what every other package i work with does [03:39] is make /usr/lib/foo/foo.exe [03:39] and put a shell script in /usr/bin [03:40] that properly sets up the evironment and calls mono on the exe === anibal [ams@ns1.mssinc.biz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] so the best would be to create a patch for the buildsystem and send it upstream? (i'll join #debian-mono later, currently working on other things) === mehrfachstecker [~aldomansk@p54AFB167.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] <\sh> k....breezy is vmware compatible [03:42] id like to have meebey's opinion also, before we start kicking upstream [03:42] slomo: thanks. === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] slomo: still here? [03:52] yes [03:53] we both think it should be like this [03:53] /usr/lib/nermele/nermele{dll,.exe} whatever [03:53] its CLI files [03:53] and then /usr/bin/nermele is #!/bin/sh [03:53] and does [03:53] exec /usr/bin/mono /usr/lib/muine/muine.exe "$@" [03:53] something similar to this [03:54] ok thanks... i'll change it that way later :) [03:54] thanks === blueyed [~daniel@i528C3B85.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487B603.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] tseng: done and uploaded here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=102 [04:52] slomo: yeah um [04:52] slomo: who is the "debian maintainer"? its not in sid [04:53] and the itp is very old and has no package [04:53] i haven't said debian maintainer... maintainer of the debian package ;) he has done the package linked on the official nemerle page [04:54] i see [04:56] can you come to #debian-mono now [04:57] (there are a few small problems left) === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1130.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] hi === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-4240.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1130.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] bye ! === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [~eruin@85.89.192.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pc-n2.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0582.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] any gtk/python guru here? :) === DanielN [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0582.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] uh, pygtk is sooo hard :( [08:57] ivoks: is it? I think ogra used it in the past [08:57] today is my first day [08:57] objective is to create rocking backup program untill august is over :) [08:58] for now, i have 600x400 window :) === siretart loves rsnapshot [08:58] for backups [08:58] we need gui stuff [08:58] i love bacula :) [08:58] but it's not GUI :( [09:00] siretart : could you help me out with kismet package ? I'd like to know how to check all that stuff that you pointed out in revu [09:00]