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jaco^Epix u can try Beast12:00
nalioths_doglaas: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically12:00
jaco^i think12:00
dbernar1mount mac partitions? that works?12:00
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naliothdbernar1: yes it does12:01
naliothdbernar1: i do it all the time12:01
phenomenooke ray_  tuxracer goes smootly thank you very much12:01
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dbernar1wow, nice. I never had any luck.12:01
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dbernar1I thought it should work, no reason not to, really.12:01
ray_phenomeno, no prob12:01
naliothdbernar1: so get the script, and thank seveas12:01
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phenomenoif you use wine you just type wine application.Exe?12:02
naliothphenomeno: yes12:02
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jaco^what about breezy?12:02
jaco^works?12:02
jaco^can i switch?12:03
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medgnoread the topic.12:03
phenomenooke thanx nalioth12:03
copap|ikserhttp://nopaste.php-q.net/146107 <- what shall I do now?12:03
jaco^ok ok, but i want use to help in developing12:03
dbernar1thank you seveas, then, I guess:P12:03
jaco^i don't need a stable system12:04
medgnonevermind then12:04
naliothjaco^: then breezy is for you (unstable and broken)12:04
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dbernar1many things will break, be prepared to work on it, and hit some walls.12:04
medgnowhen I last tried it (maybe a month ago) they were in the middle of the c++ transition. it was bad12:04
Epixjaco^, what is Beast12:04
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jaco^Epix an audio software with a sintthesizer12:05
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thr1cehow many distroboards are there?12:06
thr1cedistrowatch boards*12:06
Epixwhat about RoseGarden, whats that?12:06
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jaco^Epix a midi sequencer12:08
Strifehas anyone in here used blosxom much before?12:08
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Belutzjaco^: do you use KDE / gnome?12:09
jaco^gnome12:09
Belutzjaco^: which one is better in your opinion?12:10
jaco^i dunno12:10
jaco^ah12:10
jaco^kde vs gnome?12:10
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Belutzyup12:10
jaco^i like gnome but i can't say that it's the bettere12:10
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ProtequeI prefer gnome if I had to choce betwen those two :)12:10
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thr1cegnome is easier to use, but kde updates more and, in my opinion, developed much quicker12:11
medgnoI prefer gnome, but would prefer KDE if KMail could do imap filtering12:11
thr1cebut gnome is also alot bigger12:11
ProtequeBelutz: you really should test different things and find your favorite.12:11
thr1ceand a PAIN to compile12:11
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naliothyou guys! twin is the best dm! lol12:11
Belutzok...12:11
thr1ceCDE on the other hand... :)12:11
Belutztwin?12:11
nalioth!info twin12:11
ubotutwin: (a Text mode WINdow environment), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 672 kB12:11
Belutzcan i run KDE application on gnome?12:11
jaco^mmm i like synaptic and in my opinion ksynaptic is still not so good like synaptic12:11
Protequeyes12:12
medgnoyes12:12
laumashow can l configure a smartlink modem with ubuntu 5.0412:12
thr1ceBelutz, if you've got the libs, sure12:12
Belutzso i could use Umbrello under gnome...?12:12
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medgnoyep12:12
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ray_checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool12:12
medgnoor konqueror, or amarok, or...12:12
ray_any ideas?12:12
Belutzthat's cool12:12
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ray_anyone use kbuntu12:13
dougskis their a boss keybinding for gnome? like minimize pr0n video open email client or something like that?12:13
thr1ceman, i shoulda listened to the topic...my "breezy" was baaaad12:13
apokryphosray_: many; more in #kubuntu12:13
medgnoray_, I switch back and forth12:13
ray_checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool12:13
ray_ any ideas?12:13
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naliothray_: install xml parser12:14
ray_nalioth, how through apt? what is the command12:14
medgnoray_, I'm seeing a libxml-parse-perl package12:14
naliothray_: use synaptic and search for it12:15
thr1ceapt-cache search parser ?12:15
ray_medgno, oh thanks12:15
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dougskwell ctrl-alt-d has the minimize part down, prolly good enough, thanks12:15
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phenomenooke i have another question12:17
ray_every thing i try to apt i get md5sum errors....im losing my mind12:17
phenomenohow do you open a gz file?12:17
dougskray_ switch from us to ca in sources list12:17
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thr1cewhen I tried to update to breezy I got md5 errors12:17
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meminHello12:17
youthI got a .gz open with winzip but that's when I was on windows, I ahven't tried it here.12:17
dougskus mirror is puking12:17
ray_dougsk, what do i do in the apt list?12:17
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thr1ceanyone got breezy running at the moment?12:17
[koji] phenomeno: file-roller12:17
youthAnyone know what decoders I need to play .mp3's, .avi's, and .mov's?12:18
youthand where to find them?12:18
dougskray_, just change your sources.list to ca aka canada from us aka USA12:18
thr1cemp3 is gstreamer0.8-mad12:18
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jaco^phenomeno tar -zxvf file.tar.gz12:18
jaco^or12:18
jaco^gzip -d file.gz12:18
nalioths_dogyouth: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:18
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jaco^tar -zjvf file.tar.bz212:19
youthHeey! you're here again you're always my saviour lol12:19
EpixI have a evolution USB keyboard... how do i make it work with ubuntu?12:19
phenomenoachrive type isn't supported ( i translated it from dutch)12:19
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thr1cehm...apt can't find a few packages atm...do you think it's mirror issues?12:19
thr1celike, packs I knwo should be there12:19
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thr1ceapt-cache search mplayer returns nothing :(12:19
jaco^phenomeno which is the file name?12:19
apokryphosthr1ce: it's in Universe12:19
apokryphos!restrictedformats12:20
ubotuwell, restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs12:20
thr1ceE: Couldn't find package mplayer-38612:20
kjonWhat do I have to edit in hdparm.conf to enable dma on my hd's (udma6) and dvdrw (udma2)?12:20
Reticentso after downloading the hoary hedghog ISO, do i just burn a bit for bit copy of it on a CD, treat it like a data CD, or do i need to extract some files first in order to install the OS?12:20
apokryphosthr1ce: check that link12:20
thr1ceapokryphos, aah, i didn't knwo that; thanks!12:20
ray_dougsk, thanks it worked12:20
phenomenojaco^,  => Cedega 4[1] .3.2 TGZ12:21
jaco^Reticent from nero File/Open file.iso and burn it12:21
dougskray_, awesome was just running into the same problem too12:21
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kjonI need help with hdparm.conf... pleeeaseeee12:21
jaco^phenomeno from a shell tar -zxvf Cedega 4[1] .3.2 TGZ12:21
Reticentnero is free application?12:21
naliothdamn dog running off12:21
jaco^Reticent what burning sofware u have?12:21
apokryphosAnyone know who made ubotu?12:21
naliothReticent: no it is not12:21
ccollinsdoes anyone know the lastest repositories.  I always receive the error W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb12:21
naliothapokryphos: ubotu is a supybot i believe12:21
Reticentrecordnow12:21
dougskdoes sudo support redirection right say for instance sudo sed s/us/ca/g > sources.list?12:22
naliothccollins: the us repos are down12:22
dougskI cant seem to make that work12:22
naliothccollins: watch the dog12:22
jaco^Reticent open the iso from recordnow and burn it12:22
apokryphosnalioth: would you know how to make him join other channels?12:22
Reticenttx12:22
nalioths_dogccollins: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:22
dougskoops there should be another sources.list in there12:22
phenomenooke thanw jaco^12:22
DanielCHello. I want to migrate from Warty to Hoary. So I'll sources.list, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Is there much of a risk that this will break the system? Are upgrades "safe" ?12:22
naliothapokryphos: ubotu? i have no clue, i'm not his owner (who is not here atm)12:22
apokryphosDanielC: they're officially supported, yes.12:22
kjonI need to enable udma in my ide drives??? What do I have to edit in hdparm.conf?12:22
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DanielCapokryphos: Ok, good. Thanks.  :-)12:23
naliothDanielC: thats the best way to go12:23
apokryphosnalioth: who is?12:23
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naliothapokryphos: cafuego12:23
apokryphosthanks12:23
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DanielCnalioth: Ok. Thanks. I'll cross my fingers :-) (and make a backup)12:23
svuwhat is the equivalent of 'runuser' in ubuntu?12:23
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naliothDanielC: i updateed in that manner and had 0 trouble12:24
DanielCnalioth: excellent :-D12:24
Epix?12:24
Epixcan i?12:24
thr1cehow cleanly does ubuntu upgrade from releases out of curiosity?12:24
thr1cei'm used to running pre-releases12:24
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Epixanyone use a USB keyboard?12:25
meminHow can I switch from esd to polypaudio?12:25
apokryphosthr1ce: from official -> official, perfectly, in theory. It's supported. From official -> beta, it's not supported, but the majority of users will do it. I've never really had problems, though I'm reasonably new12:25
PPC_Guyhey all.. Looking through the wiki here on how to get my DVD drive up and running. But wanted to ask.. How difficult is it to get done?12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you kill and restart the desktop12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYin terminal12:26
thr1ceapokryphos, just curious how much crap it'll leave behind, unnoticed :|12:26
thr1ceshutdown -r now as root12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to run groaches12:26
thr1ceor just reboot :)12:26
naliothPPC_Guy: you on a ppc?12:26
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nalioths_dogPPC_Guy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:26
[koji] Church: killall gnome-panel12:27
apokryphosthr1ce: that'll restart the whole computer, not just the desktop ;-)12:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's hiding beind the desktop12:27
thr1cei thought desktop=computer12:27
PPC_Guynot right now.. But I'm having the same issue with both computers one celeron one ppc..12:27
thr1ce:|12:27
PPC_Guycool thanks12:27
apokryphosthr1ce: it shouldn't really leave anything, in theory. Dist-upgrade should handle it all12:27
thr1ce/etc/init.d/gdm restart? :)12:27
naliothPPC_Guy: things act differnt on the PPC then they do on x86, be warned12:27
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PPC_GuyI've gathered as much already nalioth, but thanks for the heads up.. Nother question  here12:27
PPC_Guynevermind, just found the answer12:28
thr1cehehe12:28
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phenomenojaco^,  I did that tar command but is it installd then or is it just "unzipped"?12:31
meminHow can I switch from esd to polypaudio?12:31
jaco^phenomeno it's unzipped12:32
phenomenooke thanx12:32
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phenomenodoes somone got a howto for cedega?12:32
flodineis anyone got system wide colores for terminal12:33
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flodinedoes anyone here use xdefaults12:34
Razor-Xflodine: terminal wide colors?12:35
flodineyes12:35
Razor-Xwhat's that?12:35
flodineRazor-X do you12:35
ray_when i start mplayer i get the following error New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)12:35
thr1ce14 deps for mplayer?!  WTF!12:35
Razor-Xflodine: I don't know what that is12:35
thr1cethat's rediculous12:35
Razor-XI use Eterm, and use a nice console geometry, and such12:35
flodineRazor-X you know what xdefaults is12:35
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Razor-Xnever played with xterm12:36
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Protequeis mplayer even in ubuntus apt-mirrors?12:36
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flodineRazor-X screenshot of it12:36
Razor-Xlike I said, I use Eterm12:36
Razor-XProteque: of course12:36
medgnoProteque, universe or multiverse12:36
DukGalNa1uanyone here able to help out with wireless nic?12:36
PPC_Guyokay.. updated the repositories for DVD playback still nothing.. Could it be issues with Totem?12:36
ProtequeI have universe12:37
PPC_Guyhaven't had any luck yet here with a linksys B/G card12:37
flodineRazor-X i use Eterm to with rephorm theme12:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a virtual drive for ubuntu12:37
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, for?12:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYa .vcd prgram12:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYgames12:37
Protequemedgno: but... multiverse? what is that?12:37
thr1ce.vcd?12:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlikw windows has virtual drive that"emulates a cd rom with a virtual cd"12:38
DukGalNa1ui am having trouble with a wireless card, does anybody here know alot about connecting wireless cards?12:38
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, pirated games...?12:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYnon12:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi own them12:38
Belutzthe sidebar in this pic http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/images/shot25.jpg (on the right side) is using what applications?12:38
medgnoProteque, multiverse is packages that are outside of universe. I think lisencing trelated problems12:39
Razor-Xa VCD program?12:39
thr1cegkrellm12:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes12:39
Razor-Xget your basic encoder/transcoder then12:39
Razor-XI hear transcode works well12:39
Protequeokay12:39
DukGalNa1uno thats not gkrellm12:39
medgnothat's not gkrellm12:39
stanfordI am trying to connect my linux and windows machines over a LAN (http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basicnetworking.shtml) but I get the error message: "The folder contents could not be displayed"12:39
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DukGalNa1uthats the slit in fluxbox12:39
Razor-XI don't think there's a little program in Linux that holds your hand to make VCDs ;)12:39
medgnoit looks like dockapps12:39
bbaileyBelutz: Those are windowmaker dockapps12:39
DukGalNa1uwith a bunch of preograms running in ti12:39
naliothRazor-X: transcode works great12:39
DukGalNa1u*programs12:39
Razor-Xnalioth: I have to apt-get it12:40
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<12:40
Razor-XI don't like emms that much...12:40
Belutzbbailey: does gnome has something like that?12:40
medgnoRazor-X, acidrip and kmenc15 are nice things for general purpose mencoder encoding12:40
ccollinsnalioths:  Thanks12:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYhuh?12:40
DukGalNa1ui am having trouble with a wireless card, does anybody here know alot about connecting wireless cards?12:40
naliothRazor-X: you'll have to jump thru your ass to get it via apt-get12:40
Razor-Xnalioth: ;)12:40
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bbaileyBelutz: gnome (and kde's) equivalent are panel applets - no idea if there are applets specifically equivalent to those in the screenshot, but that's what to look for12:40
medgnoBelutz, gkrellm looks kinda like http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm0.png12:41
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DukGalNa1uanybody?12:41
CVirusdoes Ubuntu live CD auto mounts windows FAT32 partitions ?12:41
Razor-Xhmmm... transcode gives me problems12:41
Belutzbbailey, medgno : thx12:41
Razor-Xtons of 'em ;)12:41
thr1cedamn, no supertux in apt :(12:41
stanfordI am trying to connect my linux and windows machines over a LAN (http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basicnetworking.shtml) but I get the error message: "The folder contents could not be displayed"12:41
Razor-Xstanford: read the Samba stuff in the Ubuntu wikis12:42
bbaileymedgno: thx for that link12:42
stanfordrazor-x: will do12:42
medgnothr1ce, do you have universe enabled? I see supertux in the repository12:42
naliothRazor-X: get with me re transcode (it's not apt-gettable)12:42
medgnoBelutz, and you can apt-get gkrellm, and works quite nice12:42
thr1cemedgno, oops...you're right :)  my apt-cache search XXX didn't return it] 12:43
Razor-Xnalioth: ahhh, ok12:43
Razor-Xi'll compile it then?12:43
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Belutzmedgno: i'm not using ubuntu yet, still running my winxp, and collecting apps i will use... thx a lot for the link :D12:43
naliothRazor-X: get with me in ##apple or somewhere12:43
Razor-Xnalioth: #ubuntu-nun?12:43
medgnoBelutz, I think gkrellm even exists for windows, if you're interested12:44
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naliothRazor-X: i usually use ##apple for my technical non nun business but wherever12:44
DukGalNa1ucummon, anybody here ever had to wirelessly connect to the net?12:44
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Razor-Xmmmkay12:44
Belutz:)12:44
Razor-Xi'm in non, though12:44
G|immerhello eveybody12:44
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G|immerI found Downloader for X as a download manager. Do u recomment I compile and install it, and/or do u have better suggestion?12:45
naliothDukGalNa1u: quite a lot of us wirelessly connect12:45
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DukGalNa1unalioth: i am having trouble accessing my router12:46
jaco^G|immer it's a good choice12:46
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naliothDukGalNa1u: please state some specifics ie model name of wireless card, model of router, etc12:46
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ray_mplayer hangs in firefox? any ideas12:47
G|immerjaco: thx12:47
naliothG|immer: it wasnt in the repos?12:47
DukGalNa1unalioth: getting the info now12:47
jaco^ray_ have u installed w32codecs?12:47
Dr_Willisisent there supposed to be a wireless card/chipset out now - that has great linux support from the actual company? 5200 chipset or somthing.12:47
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ray_jaco^, yes12:47
Dr_Willislooking at gettting a few new wireless cards. :P want to get those.. heh12:47
G|immernalioth: not with the repos I have configured (I removed those in recommended by ubuntuguide)12:47
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flodineanyone get pekwm loaded with ubuntu12:48
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naliothG|immer: if you compile by hand, use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"12:48
zth_ray_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4713112:48
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zth_check it ouy12:48
zth_*out12:48
jaco^G|immer anyway look for d4x12:48
AdmiralSennwhee things are broken!12:48
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G|immernalioth: ok. I got my repos from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:48
jaco^with synaptic12:48
G|immerjaco: ok, will check. 1 sec12:49
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G|immerjaco, nalioth: oh! i foung it, silly me.. I search for the name "download". lol12:49
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jaco^:)12:50
Reticentcan u install ubuntu on a computer w/ preexisting XP?12:50
ccollinsdo you simply past what's on the top part of the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 into sources.list12:50
naliothReticent: yes you can12:50
AdmiralSennyes12:50
Quest-MasterCan someone tell me how to force a resolution change without reconfiguring xserver-xorg?12:50
naliothccollins: you can back up your existing sources.list and just use that one12:50
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AdmiralSennReticent: the partition manager will help you do that12:50
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tiglionabbitReticent: yes12:51
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tiglionabbitReticent: You can even resize your ntfs partition, and dual boot12:51
DukGalNa1u MR814NA12:51
Reticentthats what id like to do12:51
DukGalNa1uNETGEAR12:51
thr1ceis ANYONE using breezy?12:51
Reticenthow do i go about doing that?12:51
DukGalNa1unalioth: thats my router12:51
AdmiralSennReticent: install it?12:51
AdmiralSennput the installation cd in the drive12:51
disasmi just setup racoon on ubuntu using an identical racoon-tool.conf i use on a debian sarge machine, and I get Jul  9 18:32:58 localhost racoon: ERROR: glob found no matches for path12:51
DukGalNa1unalioth: HWP54G-CA12:51
DukGalNa1unalioth: HAWKING TECHNOLOGIES12:51
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DukGalNa1uthats my card12:51
G|immerbtw, almost 5th day after installing Ubuntu. I now have PHP 4, Apache 2, mySQL server, HP Deskjet, PHPmyadmin and many others installed and working. 2 days since I used Windows :p12:52
tiglionabbitReticent: boot from your CD, and at the partitioning stage, select your ntfs partition and hit "Size".  It will let you change the size of it, so that some of the free space on it is cut off for use in other partitions12:52
Reticentpopped CD in, I can get ubuntu start up prompt, but when i press enter for default install windows still boots up?12:52
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naliothanyone help DukGalNa1u with his wireless?12:52
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tiglionabbitReticent: really?  That's weird12:52
DukGalNa1unalioth: ok.. fine then... shove me off as someone else problem....12:52
Reticentyeah, i thought so too12:52
DukGalNa1unalioth: :)12:52
AdmiralSennso like, libc6 is broken, and so is a lot of other stuff12:52
Epixhello world. i have a USB keyboard made by Evolution (the musical kind...) im wondering how to get it to work under linux,12:53
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jaco^nalioth what wireless?12:53
Reticentthere is a pause and the CD drive light is active w/ blinking cursor in top left, but eventually windows kicks it12:53
naliothDukGalNa1u: i run PPC hardware and have 0 experience with configuring wireless stuff12:53
Reticentkicks in12:53
naliothjaco^: see DukGalNa1u12:53
G|immerhmm, AMD wants to kick Intel's butt!12:54
jaco^DukGalNa1u what wireless?12:54
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AdmiralSennReticent: you are booting from cd, right?12:54
Reticentyeah12:54
AdmiralSennweird12:54
Reticentthere is no floppy on this thing, boot order is 1. CD 2. CD etc12:54
DukGalNa1ujaco^: i got a wireless nic and i can't connect to my router12:54
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jaco^DukGalNa1u which is the wireless card?12:55
ArbitratorReticent: Can't you boot your win-cd either?12:55
unomeis there a debsums bersion of Ubuntu?12:55
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ReticentOEM install12:55
Reticentlol12:55
naliothunome: what?12:55
unomeis there a debsums version of Ubuntu?12:55
TokenBadhow come now i have no sound what so ever..12:55
TokenBadeven the little speaker is gone12:55
naliothunome: i hv no clue what debsums is12:56
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unomenalioth a tool that checks the intergrity of your system as in (rootkits ..ahem)12:56
ArbitratorIf you can't boot other cd's, it can't be ubuntu right?12:56
EpixHelp :(12:56
Reticenttrue12:56
AdmiralSennno, help me12:56
naliothunome: <ahem> idk12:57
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ArbitratorSo, can you boot xp (or anything else)?12:57
Reticentcan u make a boot CD in windows?12:57
DukGalNa1ujaco^: the last one12:57
ArbitratorWhat about your original win-cd :-) ?12:57
TokenBador anyone know how to turn sound back on?12:57
jaco^DukGalNa1u12:57
naliothchannel occupants: please preface your comments toward the user you are speaking with12:57
tiglionabbitTokenBad: how'd you turn it off?12:57
DukGalNa1ujaco^: hawking tech12:57
Reticentmachine doesn't have one12:57
TokenBadrebooted12:57
jaco^u has to load the firmware12:57
DukGalNa1ujaco^: loaded12:57
unomenalioth, I'm trying to make sure this box is sane, debsums is excellent for Debian12:57
DukGalNa1ujaco^: as far as i can tell12:58
naliothunome: so port it over12:58
Arbitrator... then try another linuxiso. maybe debian12:58
tiglionabbitTokenBad: =[ depends on what temporary changes you had made to make it turn on then.  If I were you, I'd turn up all your sound devices, and uh..12:58
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unomenalioth hmm maybe12:58
jaco^DukGalNa1u had u moved it on hotplug/firmware dir?12:58
tiglionabbithmm, sound is such an odd issue.  I want to add a section about it to my wiki, but I'm not sure which fixes I should mention first12:58
TokenBadbut what would make the speaker go12:58
DukGalNa1ujaco^: it installed itself12:58
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TokenBadis there a command in terminal can use to maybe check?12:59
jaco^ok, now have u set the ESSID in /etc/network/interfaces?12:59
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leandro_is apt-build working on breezy?12:59
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DukGalNa1ujaco^: yup12:59
jaco^if u use a security key u has to set it12:59
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jaco^mmmmmm01:00
DukGalNa1uno securtiy key01:00
jaco^so, u can't still ping your router?01:00
DukGalNa1ujaco^: nope01:00
jaco^try iwconfig01:00
DukGalNa1ujaco^: looks good for wlan001:01
G|immerguys, my mounts to my ntfs partitions are owned by root, thus i cannot change any files there. What is the command to give my user permissions?01:01
jaco^it seems an auth problems for me01:01
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jaco^lspci - v DukGalNa1u01:01
medgnoG|immer, writing NTFS is dangerous. As in, likely to mess up the partition01:01
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G|immermedgno: oh!01:02
cyphasehey everyone01:02
DukGalNa1ujaco^: it shows the card01:02
medgnoif you need to share data between a linux and windows OS, a FAT filesystem is the best idea01:02
phziwould anyone be able to assist me with configuring a dual header setup (big screen)01:02
tiglionabbitG|immer: you cannot write to ntfs from linux01:02
phziI have my xorg.conf file written so it should work, but for some reason it still loads in clone mode01:03
tweakismWhat's wrong with the archives?01:03
tweakismI get md5sum mismatches.01:03
jaco^i dunno DukGalNa1u it seems an authentication probs01:03
thr1ceother than the mozilla mplayer plugin, anyone knwo a good way to view streaming .mov's?  (apple trailers)01:03
G|immerwhat about the other way round? is there a windows prog that lets me get files from Ext3 partitions?01:03
medgnotweakism, try getting rid of your country code and doing a straight archive.ubuntu.com01:03
tiglionabbitthr1ce: tried the xine or vlc plugins?01:04
TokenBadso no one know the command or know how to get that speaker back?01:04
DukGalNa1ujaco^: hmm01:04
tweakismG|immer: There are a couple, google it.  There is no way to use an ext3 partition as a disk in Windows.01:04
naliothG|immer: do yourself a favor and write to your NTFS. You'll be windows-free in less than 2 seconds01:04
DukGalNa1ui may need to go to your house again01:04
tiglionabbitlol01:04
DukGalNa1uheh01:04
phzitweakism: I use ext3 in windows01:04
DukGalNa1uwrong place01:04
tiglionabbitG|immer: if you want something that both OSs support, try fat3201:04
medgnophzi, how?01:04
nalioths_dogtweakism: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:04
nalioths_dogtweakism, repos are wonky, use the above sources01:05
MoppinTokenBad, right click on the bar, Add to Pannel, Volume Control01:05
mjrI'm pretty sure I read about a windows ext2/3 driver in the latest linux magazine01:05
phzithere is a command line tool that maps ext2/3 as read/write able drives01:05
mjrbut don't remember spesifics01:05
tiglionabbitG|immer: or use another networked computer in-between.  Both of them can read files over the internet, regardless of the filesystem they're from01:05
tweakism:%s/us\.archive\.ubuntu\.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g01:05
G|immernalioth: maybe i should once i copy my project files and docs. I already have not logged to win2k since 2 days. lol01:05
tweakismgood enough?01:05
medgnowow, very spiffy01:05
phziI can find out for you, give me one minute to map my windows drive and look in Program Files01:05
tiglionabbitnalioth: what do you think of my wiki now?01:05
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naliothtiglionabbit: whats the page named now?01:06
phzimedgno: google for ext2sd01:06
phzithat's the tool01:06
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G|immertiglionabbit: I know that is the best idea. Currently am stuch with one computer... Unless u can think I can use my P233MMX lol!01:06
medgnophzi, not finding any results01:06
phzik, give me a minute, I'll find the website01:07
medgnothanks a lot01:07
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phzihttp://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/01:07
TokenBadMoppin, thanks that got it back for me01:07
phzimissed a letter in the name01:07
tiglionabbit!newusers01:07
ubotunewusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers01:07
phzilet me know if you need any help with it medgno01:07
medgnophzi, thanks. I should be good, just asking for future reference01:08
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G|immerhmm, where does gnome keep its menu entries configuration?01:09
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medgnoG|immer, /usr/share/applications  but you probably want to find a menu editor for it01:11
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thotypoushaahaha01:11
thotypoussorry01:11
jpoehey all01:12
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phzihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/463 > anyone have any suggestions?01:12
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naliothG|immer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo01:13
phzidual header with my Radeon 9500 Pro isn't working... not sure why, the config looks right to me01:13
dbernar1phzi: tried the binarydriverhowto wiki from wiki.ubuntu.com?01:14
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phzialready installed01:14
phziI am running the fglrx drivers01:15
dbernar1have you tried the wiki, tho, it has instructions for dual head.01:15
phziya, I have01:15
dbernar1ok.01:15
phzihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/463 > anyone have any suggestions?01:15
MobiusWhat BT client do you all use?01:15
dbernar1I dont.01:15
phzidbernarl, that is my config01:15
Epixhow do i create /dev/snd/seq???01:15
dbernar1I use gnutellagtk01:15
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apokryphosMobius: azureus01:16
phziazureus here too01:16
medgnoMobius, gnome-btdownload01:16
apokryphosand lately ktorrent a bit01:16
medgnobut I'm not a hardcore torrenter01:16
dbernar1there is also bittornado01:16
Mobiusis gnome-bt the one thats installed by default?01:16
jtgameoverazureus01:16
dbernar1ya01:16
phzibitcomet is my favourite tool, but alas, no linux version yet01:16
[koji] Mobius: I think it is01:16
MobiusI am trying to find that one shows uploading as well =)01:17
apokryphosI'm pretty sure it does01:17
doug_Is there a 'scroll back' function to this channel?   or a 'History' ?01:17
medgnognome-bt at the very least lets you throttle it01:17
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apokryphosMobius: azureus is far more advanced, though.01:17
dbernar1doug_: well, it would depend on your client.01:17
[koji] doug_: this channel i believe is archived01:17
G|immermedngo, nalioth: thx01:17
Mobiusanyone here try that Legends game?01:17
monkeyyok i need big time help01:18
G|immerbtw, it was only today that i found these chat logs are archived online and color coded :p01:18
jtgameoverlol01:18
G|immerimportant resource.01:18
TokenBadanyone installed windows based games via cedega?01:18
dbernar1phzi: you have the fglrx-control package installed?01:18
medgnoTokenBad, hi01:18
[koji] so be careful with what you say01:18
kbrookssp////01:18
phzidbernarl, yes I do01:18
kbrooksso....01:18
TokenBadsup medgno01:19
G|immerhehe01:19
medgnoTokenBad, need help with cedega?01:19
Epixis it safe to add stuff like this to /etc/modules? alias char-major-116 snd01:19
dbernar1and you ran it?01:19
TokenBadyeah every game I try to install says not enough space cause its not registering the space on the mounted drive01:19
phziI ran thru the setup, still operated in clone mode, so I wrote my own config - clone mode still01:19
kbrooks!restricted01:19
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:19
dbernar1monkeyy: are you gonna ask for it?01:19
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G|immerspeaking of windows games... what about cedega? can it do it?01:19
monkeyyi am dual booting between Mac OS 9 / Mac OS X / ubuntu on a Mac i went to Mac OS X and under start up disk chose the startup disk as Mac OS 9 now on reboot yaboot is not coming back how do i get yaboot back ?01:19
naliothTokenBad: you need to fsck your drive, i believe01:19
monkeyymulti booting ^ err01:20
TokenBadwhat is fsck?01:20
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naliothmonkeyy: hold the C key01:20
medgnoTokenBad, okay, I'm not sure about that. I've never had problems, but I've always installed on my root drive01:20
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naliothmonkeyy: at the gong01:20
Mobiusttyl01:20
monkeyyok lemme try01:20
TokenBadyeah see I am installing on a mounted drive01:20
doug_I think I'm using X-Chat[2.4.1]  *** /#ubuntu(+tncPJ 10,5)01:20
medgnoG|immer, it can play most games. I've gotten mine to run steam games (HL2), diablo2, and starcraft01:20
monkeyynalioth nothing happens it boots into mac os x01:21
othernoobmedgno would you happen to have played dune2000 ?01:21
phzimonkeyy you use GRUB?01:21
dbernar1c is for boot from cd.01:21
naliothmonkeyy: restart your mac, and at the system bell, hold the 'c' key (you are on a new world mac, right?)01:21
naliothshit01:21
dbernar1run the installer again, and install only yaboot.01:21
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G|immermedngo: ah, great. what about wine?!01:21
monkeyyi dont have a cd in01:21
medgnoothernoob, nope, but the game database is here ->http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/01:21
naliothmonkeyy: sorry, the alt-option key01:21
monkeyyok01:22
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othernoobmedgno, I'm not wondering about whether it works or not. I'm stuck on a level ;)01:22
naliothmonkeyy: you should see a little penguin at teh choice menu01:22
medgnoOh, gotcha01:22
medgnosorry, can't help01:22
monkeyyfantastic01:22
monkeyynalioth thanks so much01:22
naliothmonkeyy: once you're in ubuntu, you can redo yaboot01:23
othernoobmedgno: that's okay, i'll just have to try harder i gues :)01:23
othernoobs/gues/guess01:23
monkeyyso in the future to get yaboot back i will have to hold down the option key right01:23
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jtgameoverwhat are some favorite pacakges for people here?01:23
jtgameoverbesides xine, mplayer, xmms, etc...01:23
phzi3ddesk :P01:23
naliothmonkeyy: as long as you dont isntall osx anymore, yaboot should stay put01:23
monkeyyah i see this machine in fact has a total of 4 OSES  3 macs and one ubuntu01:23
dbernar1nalioth, add that to the wiki page for that.01:23
apokryphosfilelight01:23
monkeyyyup i agree nalioth01:23
tiglionabbitjtgameover: streamtuner01:23
othernoobG|immer: afaik the difference between wine and cedega is that cedega tries to emulate directx01:23
naliothdbernar1: what wiki page?01:23
dbernar1it is yaboot configurationformacintoshpowerpcsdualboot01:23
dbernar1no space between the yaboot and the rest, off course, typo01:24
naliothdbernar1: gesundheit!01:24
dbernar1gesundheit is used when someone sneezes.01:24
nikkiaothernoob: wine tries too, just not as hard01:24
monkeyyubuntu runs faster on my iBook then any other Mac OS01:24
naliothdbernar1: and yabootconfigurationformacintoshpowerpcsdualboot looks like a sneeze to me01:25
dbernar1it has some line about command-option-P-R.01:25
naliothmonkeyy: older ibook?01:25
dbernar1nalioth: it is a wiki page01:25
G|immerothernoob: ... which we need to run windows games. ok, great.01:25
monkeyyubuntu (hoary) is starting for the first time as i chat01:25
naliothdbernar1: i know, i'm teasin ya01:25
[koji] lol01:25
monkeyynalioth ibook G401:25
othernoobG|immer: i run Dune2000 with wine01:25
dbernar1I knew that...01:25
monkeyyits an year old01:25
jpoedoes anyone know, should an SMP kernel be used to take advantage of a dual core processor such as an Athlon X2?01:25
naliothmonkeyy: do you run tiger on it?01:25
naliothjpoe: yes, if there is one for it01:26
monkeyyyes i just checked i am multibooting panther/tiger/ubuntu01:26
othernoobnikkia: I didn't know that, was told that only cedega took that step01:26
jtgameoverif i want to listen to my music at home while i'm at work, without having to do download the files themselves, how can i do this?01:26
othernoobbut thanks01:26
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G|immerothernoob: hmm. I actually installed Wine today but did not try it yet. My essential games are Theif 2 and UT.01:26
nikkiaothernoob, mostly, the difference is that cedega is optimised for gaming01:26
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monkeyyi think i will just trash panther later on01:26
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dbernar1there is a #cedega, if you did not know...01:26
monkeyyi will be online with xchat here shortly01:26
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naliothmonkeyy: tiger runs better on my mac(s) then any other osx has01:27
[koji] jtgameover:  i think you need to setup a streaming server like icecast01:27
nikkiaG|immer: UT should have a native version01:27
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jtgameoverhmm yeah i was looking into that01:27
jtgameoveris it easy01:27
naliothjtgameover: streaming server01:27
monkeyyya nalioth but sometimes dashboard can make it run slow01:27
dbernar1mine is in the mail...for a while now, now that I think of it, naliotH the tiger is...01:27
naliothmonkeyy: so turn it off01:27
monkeyythe only reason why i am sticking to tiger is dashboard and also spotlight01:27
[koji] jtgameover:  i had no experience sorry01:28
othernoobnikkia: would you happen to know a NeoGeo emulator like winkawaks for linux?01:28
monkeyymy original install 10.3.3 was slow01:28
G|immernikkia: I was looking for that. I found links on Loki to donwload a beta.. but the links did not seem to load. I am talking about UT: GOTY01:28
nikkiaothernoob: no idea01:28
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nikkiaG|immer: you mean the original UT?01:28
monkeyy10.3.5 and 10.4.1 are pretty fast and so is ubuntu01:28
nikkiaG|immer: or do you mean UT 2k3/2k4 ?01:28
G|immernikkia: yep, the Game of The Year package.01:28
othernoobG|immer: are you talking about LokiTorrent?01:28
naliothmonkeyy: do you have much ram on it?01:28
naliothmonkeyy: i have 1.2gb of ram and my osx smokes01:29
nikkiaG|immer: the original UT most definitely has a linux port, but it was by loki, and its a pain to find01:29
monkeyyi think its 256 Mb01:29
monkeyywow cool01:29
G|immernikkia: ic.01:29
monkeyyu on a G5 ?01:29
nikkiaG|immer: i used to play UT exclusively on linux, when i had it01:29
monkeyythe comp that i am on now smokes.... 1 GB ram 3 ghz processor01:29
Chillouthi there, i am new to ubuntu/linux. how to i make it play avi/divx files? which is the best player?01:29
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jpoenalioth:  So would linux-image-k7-smp be a good choice for an Athlon64 4400 X2?01:29
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G|immerothernoob, no, a website of a company  called Loki that ports games to Linux.01:29
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monkeyyChillout xine is good01:30
nikkiaG|immer: iirc, what i did tho, was used the non-GOTY version of linux UT with the GOTY CDs01:30
Chilloutmonkeyy: how do i get it?01:30
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othernoobG|immer: oh okay, just thought of the other site because ppl talked about torrent clients earlier01:30
dbernar1Chillout: read the following page.01:30
dbernar1!restricted01:30
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:30
monkeyyxine.sourceforge.net/01:30
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G|immernikkia: thx for the tips. I guess i have to dig out some files from the Net.01:31
nikkiaG|immer: anyway, ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/lokigames/beta/ut/ut-install-436-GOTY.run works for me01:31
ZugwrackHi everyone...wondering about a command line program that can read mp3 files and transcode to aac?01:31
naliothjpoe: no, because those are for pre amd64 processors01:31
monkeyyis it true ubuntu takes a long time to start for the first time right now its setting up all the services and stuff ?01:31
jpoeahh, yes..01:32
gotonpoWill someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right instead of underneath?01:32
dryadHey - I'm really looking forward to install Ubuntu linux 5.04 on my amd64 machine, however, one thing is holding me back from installing it. I've got a 200gb ntfs-formatted drive, which I will need access to from Ubuntu. Is it possible to convert this partition to Fat32?01:32
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jtgameoverDr_Willis,01:32
gotonpoor if it's even possible?01:32
jtgameoverdryad,01:32
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jtgameoverdryad, it is very easy with partition magic01:32
nickrudgotonpo system-preferences-file-manager-view tab has it01:33
monkeyygotonpo it is paossible01:33
dryadjtgameover, alright, I thought so - but can fat32 handle 200gb in one partition?01:33
naliothdryad: yes, with partition magic (a commercial product)01:33
monkeyydryad take a backup though01:33
jtgameoverdryad, alternatively, you can do it while you're installing ubuntu01:33
monkeyybefore u run partition magic01:33
jtgameoverdryad, i have a 300 GB external usb hard drive01:33
jtgameoveri broke it up into 4 partitions01:33
gotonponickrud: "Text beside icons"? that doesn't have any effect for some reason :(01:33
dryadhm alright01:33
jtgameovertwo are fat, one is ext3, one is ntfs01:34
Moppindryad, Yes, FAT32 is safely scale to 2-TB  over that the FAT gets to be too big01:34
dryadalright cool01:34
[koji] get a systemrescuecd it has qt_parted01:34
Moppindryad, I have a 500-GB FAT32 that runs just fine.01:34
ZugwrackI thought the kernel now supports ntfs both read/write?01:34
monkeyyis it true ubuntu takes a long time to start for the first time right now its setting up all the services and stuff ?01:34
dryadI'll give it a try then01:34
naliothmonkeyy: yes01:34
templarI want to install msttcorefonts, but when i do a apt-get install, i have an error : the paquage is too old, or missing... can somebody know how i can get it ?01:34
monkeyyok cool01:34
templarplz :)01:34
monkeyynalioth coming to file formats which all formats can ubuntu recognise on a mac ?01:35
nickrudI guess it only works in a window, not the desktop. I only tried it once :)01:35
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Zugwrackmonkeyy: It doesn't do well with HFS extended..although you can read write HFS01:35
monkeyyi am sorry  imean like unix file system mac os extended ?01:35
gotonpoyeah, weird huh? because default zoom level right there affects the desktop01:35
Chilloutmonkeyy: i donlowded xine but i am having problem installing it. can u help?01:36
monkeyyhmm ill have to check this out then01:36
monkeyysure01:36
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naliothmonkeyy: most of em01:36
templarnobody can help me :(?01:36
paul_templer whats the issue01:36
nickrudI've never gotten the icon size stuff right, the destop to window icon size relationship01:36
Zugwrackmonkeyy: Only reason I know is I couldn't figure out why I could read from my iPod but could never get any programs to work with it...I had to reformat the iPod to HFS instead of HFS extended01:36
TokenBadin one forum read something about disable disk quota01:37
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TokenBadbut in my fstab I don't see anything about quota01:37
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templarpaul_ : I want to install msttcorefonts, but when i do a apt-get install, i have an error : the paquage is too old, or missing... can somebody know how i can get it ?01:37
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paul_have you enabled universe sources?01:38
G|immernikkia: thx, am downloading01:38
templarno, how ?01:38
paul_etc/apt/sourceslist01:38
paul_uncomment the universe.source entry01:38
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warren_I just installed Ubuntu and I'm having a really weird problem: whenever I try and drag anything (such as moving a window, scrolling, etc) it somehow acts like a double-click01:39
Br34chaa01:39
Br34ch!ping01:39
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, br34ch.01:39
paul_you can also do that thru the gui synaptic if you wish01:39
Yukidoes anyone know how I can access my NTFS partitions?01:39
Br34chOkay, one quck question. AND YES01:39
Br34chWhat Yuki just asked01:39
Br34chThat's what I wanna know.01:39
Yukilol01:40
templari'm under kubuntu paul_  ;)01:40
cafuego'/msg ubotu user accessible ntfs'01:40
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paul_ouch, not sure, do a google search for kubuntu users guide01:40
templareb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe01:40
templardeb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe01:40
Br34chcafuego: Seriously? Easy as that?01:40
Chillouthi there, could anyone help me install "xine" please? i m getting this errormessage: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:40
templarthis lines are already uncomment01:40
jtgameoverYuki, just mount it with ro, and file system ntfs01:40
jtgameoverChillout, install the "build-essential" package01:40
paul_ya i would think the kubuntu source list would be the same as ubuntu01:40
Yukijtgameover.  so, what would the command be then?01:41
naliothpaul_: it is01:41
iceravenHow do I search for text contained within files?  I found the command locate which searchs for filenames, but I want to search for the text within those files?01:41
paul_templar i learned that www.ubuntuguide.org is very useful01:41
jtgameoverYuki, /dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    user,ro,auto,noexec             0       001:41
paul_also wiki01:41
naliothiceraven: grep01:41
jtgameoverput that in your /etc/fstab, and modify as necessary01:41
nalioths_dogpaul_: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines01:41
jtgameoverYuki, keep in mind this is READ-ONLY access01:42
jtgameoverwriting to NTFS is very dangerous01:42
paul_nalioths i recommend anything that has worked for me, sorry01:42
iceravenThanks01:42
Yukibut I can copy from the hd onto my ext2 hd right?01:42
G|immerpaul: yesterday, a link was posted here to ubuntulinix discouraging users from following the ubuntuguide, and explaining why.01:42
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paul_i didnt see that, can you repost01:43
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monkeyynalioth u will have to guide me through some steps i will ask as soon as ubuntu is up ok ?01:43
G|immerpaul: 1 sec01:43
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templarits strange that i don't find this paquage ... :\01:43
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G|immerpaul_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines01:44
[koji] i still find some value on that site but maybe a bit too much for beginners01:44
naliothmonkeyy: sure thing01:44
paul_im sorry that the folks at ubuntu are authortarian and disaprove of workarounds to their ways of doing things01:44
naliothmonkeyy: you might find it easier in ##apple01:44
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monkeyynalioth it is a ubuntu thing like installing some packages01:45
G|immerpaul_ to me as a beginner, I would naturaly presume they know better. Although I did follow a couple of guidelines there and they worked for me.01:45
nikkiathey are wrong about one thing, the wiki presents no solution to the sharing audio problem, they do not discuss dmix at all on any page01:46
naliothmonkeyy: i dont understand01:46
monkeyynalioth be right back ok ?01:46
paul_for christ sakes, wiki hasnt even authenticated their security certificates, lol01:46
naliothG|immer: not all of them are so beneficial to new users... be very wary01:46
cafuegopaul_: I think the issue is that the moment you start making nonstandard changes to config files/your setup, people here won be able to help you with additional problems anymore. Normally when that happens the person who ruined their install gets very aggressive and start abusing the people who can help them.01:46
cafuegos/can/can't/01:46
G|immerpaul_ lol01:46
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concept10Guys, I just got here. What is the problem?01:47
paul_i think its just a bunch of snobs who are bound and determined to make everyone do things one way, not necessarily the correct way, but their way01:47
concept10paul_, you are wrong01:47
paul_linux is about freedom01:47
paul_ubuntu is about rule of a few apparently01:47
[koji] the maintainer of that site has been diligent enought to correct what is wrong01:47
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cafuegopaul_: Youe free to run a distro that does things the way _you_ want to. You're NOT free to abuse people who do things differently.01:48
G|immernalioth: I am keeping an open eye and being cautious. computers are about common sense (mostly)01:48
tweakismcafuego: you from slashnet?01:48
paul_ive not had one problem with ubuntu guide other than us sources had md5sum problems01:48
cafuegopaul_: Now, trolling is off-topic. kindly desist.01:48
paul_which was easily corrected01:48
naliothG|immer: yes, but as a new user, the guide can be tricksy01:48
flankkokay.. I've had this problem for 2 days with little help.  I am just trying to get audio working, but lspci doesn't detect my integrated audio. I have NO IDEA what the chipset is, so what can I do?01:48
aruI think cafuego hit the nail on the head when he said the moment you start making nonstandard changes to config files/your setup, people here won be able to help you with additional problems anymore.01:49
cafuegoaru: 3 years of putting up with people who have exactly that problem...01:49
paul_freedom of speech rules, dictators wont have any of that, and apparently neither will this room hehe01:49
naliothpaul_: read the URL the dog sent you, please01:49
G|immernalioth: that's why we have you guys! :D01:49
concept10paul_, Im not going to feed into any agrument, but I must say that you are free to administrate your system anyway that you want.  I have used the ubuntuguide, but I HAVE experience with linux.  There are some things on the site like scripts that people may not know about01:49
paul_i did, i didnt see anything relavant01:49
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tweakismI use Ubuntu because it gives me a good package manager, a good package repository, and reasonable installation defaults.  Sometimes I yank Ubuntu's pref, config file format in favor of my own (like apache).  You can only do that when you don't intend to use ubuntu's config file management utilities afterwards, though.01:51
paul_concept i only know what has worked for me, and thats what i tell people , sorry01:51
paul_i will stop trying to help, my bad01:51
G|immerbreezy is a new Ubuntu release-to-be?01:52
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cafuegoG|immer: Yes, to be released in october01:52
DaveyG|immer: yes, Breezy Badger01:52
Daveyin October? :(01:52
DaveyI was hoping sooner :/01:52
cafuegoDavey: 5.10 <- note the 1001:52
Daveydunno why though, Hoary works just fine for me01:52
Daveyhunh?01:52
concept10flankk, do you have onboard audio or a PCI audio card?01:53
cafuegoit got a higher version number gotta be better lolol!?01:53
[koji] The 10M won't make in sooner :P01:53
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nikkiacafuego, in some cases, thats true and you know it01:53
flankkconcept10, flankk: "...integrated audio..."01:53
ccchmm, when i was a kid .10 was a lower version number than .4, doesn't seem to be that way anymore.01:53
cafuegonikkia: More features, more bugs. it's always the same.01:54
aru.04 is less than .101:54
concept10flankk, sorry, i just woke up (half blind)01:54
nikkiacafuego: more critical vulns fixed, too01:54
aris_do we have a good ide for gnome ?01:54
cafuegonikkia: They get fixed in security updates anyway01:54
cccsince 10 ends up before 4 in an alphabetic listing01:54
nikkiacafuego: in some apps, not all01:54
[koji] aris_: try anjuta01:54
concept10flankk, you can determine what type of chipset by searching for specs on your motherboard01:54
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flankkconcept10, np, i guess it's just old.. but i at least need something to detect it so i can install the correct drivers.  first time i've come across lspci not detecting it.01:54
iceravenWhats the command to whisper to someone?01:55
nikkiacafuego: the year old version of sqlite in hoary has some pretty major bugs that have long since been fixed, for example01:55
flankkconcept10, hmm.. i tried that, i suppose i can look further.01:55
cafuegoiceraven: /msg <user> HELLO!!!!01:55
concept10flankk, my guess is that its some AC '97 compatible chipset01:55
medgnoiceraven, type in /msg usename message text here01:55
UEUEI have Windows.. and I wanna move over to Ubuntu, but still have Windows . . . I know little of hardware, could someone be so kind as to simple link me to something that'll elaborate at least what grounds I'll be at as of this01:55
flankkconcept10, it's an intel board01:55
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concept10flankk, do you have the motherboard model number?01:55
cafuegoSurely 'lspci' will say what controller01:56
TokenBadwell I give up....can't get cedega to work for me01:56
naliothUEUE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com01:56
flankkconcept10,  Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge01:56
UEUEI was hoping for something more precise . . . but okay, so much as some keywords I should look out for? ;\01:56
concept10flankk,  make sure that the sound is ENABLED in the BIOS.  They could keep lspci from pciking it up01:57
paul_wernst is on a distinguished road01:57
paul_01:57
paul_Default Re: HOWTO: Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide01:57
paul_Glad to hear you're back on your feet again.01:57
paul_I feel that the Unofficial Guide is SO IMPORTANT to Ubuntu that I was tempted to offer to take over editorship after a few weeks of no news about it. I didn't want to, but I was starting to think it would be necessary.01:57
paul_Really, I feel that strongly about The Guide. If every distro had such a guide, the Linux world would be a better place. As it stands now Unbuntu is a better distro because of The Guide. Thanks to The Guide, I'm starting to recommend total newbies to Ubuntu.01:57
paul_My hat's off to you!01:57
paul_-Warren Ernst01:57
paul_(and now I'll step out from behind the curtain)01:57
paul_Contributor, PC Magazine01:57
paul_Columnist, CPU Magainze01:57
MoppinTokenBad, Have you checked out this site? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu01:57
UEUEBy the way . . . I can be sure, that my existing things won't be altered, or God forbid, removed? Or any mere danger of it at a screw-up? :x01:57
flankkconcept10, this box originally had Windows on it with working audio.  no bios settings have been changed since.01:57
paul_sorry to rain on your parade, have a nice evening01:58
concept10flankk, it wouldnt hurt to check on next reboot01:58
concept10flankk, where did you get that model number01:58
flankkconcept10, via lspci..01:58
concept10flankk, thats a chipset01:59
flankkconcept10, i will check next reboot though.. usually lspci detects integrated anything on the bus..01:59
flankkconcept10, what do you suggest then?01:59
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TokenBadMoppin, I have it installed..01:59
TokenBadit just will not install any game02:00
naliothUEUE: if you have free space on your HD, your windows shoulnt be touched02:00
concept10flankk, check bios, BIOS usually has the model of the motherboard, or open case and get the model02:00
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flankkconcept10, opening case is last resort, considering it's like welded together.02:00
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concept10flankk, okay, reboot with a pen handy to write down motherboard info from the BIOS screen02:01
flankkconcept10, hold on.. i'll get whatever information i can from BIOS settings, brb02:01
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aruisnt there something like the BelArc Advisor for linux?02:01
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iceravenWhat tool would I use to easily find and replace information inside a mysql database?02:01
UEUEnalioth: Is it best to, beforehand, have one drive completey free? :x or is that a stupid question to begin with02:01
dbernar1perl02:02
dbernar1hehe02:02
dbernar1dunno02:02
cpalermoAlright, probalby a stupid question, but how do you add a second IP to an ethernet interface?02:02
naliothUEUE: if you have an extra drive, thats great02:02
kbrooksUEUE, you should format it all.02:02
nikkiacpalermo: ifconfig eth0 add <second address>02:02
cpalermoiceraven - how about select?02:03
UEUEOh, sorry, messed over myself -- not a drive, just a partition. about 10 gigz02:03
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nikkiacpalermo: or you can use ip addr add <second address> dev eth002:03
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kbrooksUEUE, dual booting is the best way to switch between ubuntu and windows02:03
cpalermonikkia - yeah, I tried that, and it worked, but I'm looking for the gui tool. The command line works, but doesnt hold after reboot.02:03
nikkiacpalermo: afaik, there is no easy way to do it in /etc/network/interfaces, you need to add a 'up' rule and matching 'down' rule02:03
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iceravencpalermo: I'll look into that command, thanks02:04
cpalermoAlright.... thought I'd check here. I couldn't find anything either.02:04
YukiI don't knowif the mount command worked02:04
nikkiacpalermo: i doubt there is a GUI tool, you're into non-standard behaviour adding 2nd addresses :)02:04
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MoppinMost of the time I just whip up a quick script to run at boot to add 2nd IP addresses, additonal ARPs, routes, etc.02:05
cpalermonikkia: Thanks. I'll go poke around in /etc/network and see where I can stick it ;-)02:05
nikkiacpalermo: as an example:02:05
nikkiacpalermo: the eth0 stanza in my interfaces file contains: up ip addr add 82.6.124.145 dev eth002:06
jtgameoverdoes anyone here use skippy or expocity02:06
jtgameoveror anything of that sort02:06
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nikkiacpalermo: as its essential for my IPv6 tunnels to have eth0 pretending to be my external IP address02:06
flankkconcept10, it is an old BIOS, it said nothing about motherboard spec02:06
cpalermonikkia: I was trying to do something like ifconfig eth0:1 123.123.123.12302:07
Chillouthi quick question: how does one open a file for editing on the console?02:07
cpalermonikkia: looks like not gonna be as simple as a gui tool - eh... back to the terminal :-)02:07
monkeyycan any one try this out 1)make a new folder on your desktop 2)double click on it and then go to edit preferences 3)change the zoom to 50 % and then check text besides icons this is not working on my and gotonpo s ubuntu02:07
nikkiacpalermo: you can create a second iface stanza for eth0:1 that duplicates the eth0 stanza with a new address...02:07
cpalermonikkia: Yup, thats what I need.02:08
medgnoChillout, using a text-mode editor like vim, or by opening it up with gedit (which will pop up a gedit window)02:08
nikkiacpalermo: but my understanding is that that is not quite the same behaviour as adding a second address to eth002:08
nikkiacpalermo: they appear as different interfaces to the kernel, when you do that02:08
YukiI need to access my NTFS partition and move some files from it to my ext2 partition, can anyone help me?02:08
monkeyywe cant get text besides icon on the desktop although in folders it is working02:08
flankkChillout, man nano02:08
Chilloutmedgo: thx02:09
cpalermonikkia: Yup. That is what I'm looking for - I need to be able to bring them up or down independently.02:09
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concept10Chillout, sudo nano <file>02:10
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flankkconcept10, hello?02:10
nikkiaconcept10: sudo -e <file> will do just as well, less to type too02:10
Red_Tide I need some advice on buying a new comp im thinking of this mobo http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K7N2GM-V&class=mb but I cannot find any reviews on the net any thoughts?02:11
concept10flankk, I guess I cant help because I dont have any other idea to get the info for your soundcard. Sorry.02:11
concept10nikkia, whats -e emacs?02:11
nikkiaconcept10: 'edit'02:11
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concept10using what app?02:11
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nikkiaconcept10: it invokes whatever editor is defined as EDITOR or the system editor (nano by default on ubuntu) as root on the file given02:12
concept10nikkia, ok great02:12
concept10I use nano alot more than any other editor02:12
flankkconcept10, so basically if ubuntu doesn't magically make it work, you're screwed :|02:12
nikkiaconcept10: it does it in a safe way too, much like how vipw or such work02:12
nikkiaconcept10: ie, copies the file to /tmp, edits the file, then copies the file back to the original location as root02:13
flankkconcept10, i really don't understand why lspci wouldn't detect it.02:13
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concept10flankk, no distro could make it work if the card doesnt show up02:13
nikkiaconcept10: so, sudo -e will work with meta-editors like emacsclient, whereas sudo emacsclient <file> won't02:13
flankkconcept10, isn't it reading directly from the bus?02:13
flankkconcept10, it shows up for Windows, same BIOS settings.02:14
concept10flankk, yes.  Did you reboot into windows02:14
nikkiaflankk, because it might not actually be a PCI device02:14
Yukican anyone tell me what's wrong with this command line: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /02:14
ompaulI think that this is a bug in the screensaver several hours ago I went out at the start of a 144meg apt-get install Lots_of_files - after all the files were downloaded the screen saver had kicked in, until I came back and shut down the screen saver nothing installed02:14
concept10nikkia, good point02:14
nikkiaflankk, a lot of older 'onboard audio' were SB compatible chips hanging off a ISA bridge02:14
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flankkconcept10, that would be easy.  Windows is no longer on this machine.  i'd like to think linux is better at raw detection of something on the damn pci bus02:15
flankknikkia, ah.. that's possible02:15
Chilloutmmh, its a lot of work setting up this ubunto (at least for me as supernoob), but it starts to make fun. i just got it to play may movies with VLC02:15
Chilloutone thing is bothering tho.... the fan on my notebook is working constantly02:15
nikkiaflankk, i'd look at the windows driver, see what 'resources' it lists02:15
bojanglesRed_Tide, well nice looking mobo but you should check with gnu for what hardware can be currently supported with a free bios that we have some control over.02:16
concept10Yuki, you need to specify a directory to mount to02:16
nikkiaflankk, my gut feeling, on a 440LX, is that it'll be a PnP SB compatible chipset02:16
MoppinChillout, I found that ACPI in any linux distro doesn't work as well as Windows does :(02:16
flankknikkia, that's not at option, windows is no longer on the box.  i find it dissapointing that i need to use windows to find out hardware specs02:16
Chilloutdoes that mean that my CPU is running on full speed, eventho i have a athlon xp mobile cpu?02:16
Yukiconcept10, I just want to be able to access the whole partition02:16
concept10flankk, try the hardware browser02:17
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flankkconcept10, okay02:17
ChilloutMoppin: do u know how one can check at what speed the cpu is running?02:17
flankkconcept10, you mean the Device Manager?02:17
monkeyywhat is the default modem port on an ibook any one have any ideas ?02:17
bojanglesRed_Tide, just because it looks good on the outside doesn't mean it is good on the inside02:17
concept10yeah02:17
nikkiaflankk, alsacfg would be a good thing to try, but its not included in the ubuntu alsa distribution02:18
bojanglesRed_Tide, if you cannot control it with completely free software...you will be in trouble02:18
flankknikkia, i've already been around compiling alsa02:18
nikkia(as alsacfg probes for cards, including SB compatibles on ISA)02:18
flankknikkia, good to know, how do i get it?02:18
concept10Yuki, make a directory to mount to. for example sudo mkdir /media/windows then mount -t ntfs /dev/hdwhatever /media/windows02:18
naliothmonkeyy: i havnt use a dialup ISP since 200302:19
nikkiaflankk, its part of either alsa-utils or alsa-tools, i forget which (alsa names, not the ubuntu packages)02:19
JormundgandAnyone know a wallpaper cycling tool like the one built into Mac OS X 10.2?02:19
bojanglesRed_Tide, and a lot of people are already buying up all the old dvd hardware because of the talk of putting DRM shit in those future products as well02:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYjoin #dosbox02:19
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gotonpoJormundgand: i'd like to know of one as well!02:20
flankknikkia, i have the newest alsa-utils; i don't follow.02:20
Yukiconcept10, it says that t is an invalid option02:20
concept10Jormundgand, gotonpo:  Ubuntu had some Ubuntu calendar that did something similar to that02:20
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gotonpoconcept10: had? no longer?02:21
concept10gotonpo, its still around02:21
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BuffaloSoldierhow do i set all my icons (in desktop, toolbar & nautilus) to a smaller size?02:22
flankknikkia, could you please clarify where i can get alsacfg?02:22
concept10gotonpo, I know that they were sending out monthly wallpapers but I dont know how that worked.  I know packages are in the repos.  You might want to search the wiki or the forums02:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYany of you use dosbox?02:22
concept10Yuki, no success?02:22
nikkiaflankk, i said, its either in alsa-utils or alsa-tools, check also for alsaconfig, as they tend to change the names around randomly02:22
gotonpoconcept10: awesome.. i'll take a look.. thanks!02:22
monkeyyChurcH_of_FoamY i do02:22
Yukiit says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other erroe02:23
monkeyynalioth can i message u02:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYmonkeyy how the heck do i use this thing? the websites a joke02:23
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flankknikkia, like i said, i have the newest alsa-utils, and no alsacfg.02:23
naliothmonkeyy: you can join me in ##apple02:23
nikkiaflankk, then check alsa-tools02:23
flankknikkia, no such package02:23
nikkiaflankk, i said it is not packaged02:24
concept10Yuki, add the mount to /etc/fstab ... have you done that?02:24
nikkiaubuntu does NOT include alsacfg02:24
flankknikkia, clarify yourself please.02:24
Yukiuh, dunno, how do I do that?02:24
nikkiaflankk, alsacfg is a util that is not packaged in the ubuntu alsa packages02:24
flankknikkia, and WHERE do you expect me to find it?02:25
nikkiai don't know that i can put it any clearer, tbh02:25
nikkiaflankk, from the alsa sources02:25
flankkwtf?02:25
flankknikkia, thank you. you never mentioned alsa sources once.02:25
nikkiai said that ubuntu doesn't include it, the logical reasoning would be that you have to get it from the original alsa sources02:25
Yukiconcept10, it only gives me sda5, 7, and 6.  It doesn't show the others02:25
flankknot really, it could be an external project.02:26
nikkianot if its part of alsa-utils or alsa-tools02:26
concept10Yuki, what gives you that? fdisk -l ?02:26
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nikkiawhich are the names of the sub-parts of alsa that are distributed by the alsa people02:26
flankknikkia, "alsa names, not the ubuntu packages" is very unclear02:26
Yukino, the fstab when I open it in gedit02:26
nikkiayou said you'd 'built the latest alsa from source' so i figured you had looked at what alsa call their source bundles02:26
flankkbut now i see what you meant.02:27
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, well i tried to use it but it was so bad and slow that i gave up and decided to work on freedos32 instead02:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles what's that?02:27
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flankknikkia, i have the source tree, i have built and installed it, and no alsacfg. this is where the confusion arises.02:27
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nikkiaflankk 'the' source tree?02:27
nikkiathere are at least 402:27
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, well it is a 32bit dos with a flat memory model that everyone can understand and it can run regular dos applications as well02:28
Yukiconcept10, I used: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and it only shows me those three partitions02:28
flankknikkia, s/the/a nitpick02:28
Aerebusi got something that says i need libsdl in order to run, well i have downloaded SDL-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm how do i install this?02:28
concept10Yuki, you must add the windows partition to the bottom02:28
dbernar1Aerebus: did you learn how to install stuff in ubuntu?02:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , ok already ya lost me.....all i want to know is02:28
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dbernar1Usually using aptitude install02:28
concept10Yuki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:28
dbernar1then aptitude gets all the dependencies for you.02:28
Aerebusdbenarl, i started using linux 2 days ago...02:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , weather or not it will play the 7th guest and the 11th hour02:29
dbernar1Only if the package is not available in the ubuntu repos should you go and look for it elsewhere....02:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYfrom cd02:29
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^02:29
nikkiaand it is in alsa-utils02:29
nikkiathey've just renamed it, again, to alsaconf02:29
concept10Aerebus, dont use .rpm's unless that is your LAST resort, try to stick with ubuntu .deb packges02:29
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, well 7th Guest was a favorite program of one of my enemies that worked for IBM called Robert Bayes......so i don't give a damn if it runs 7th Guest02:29
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Aerebusi had to download it from libsdl.org02:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYok myst?02:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYwill it run myst?02:30
flankknikkia, they renamed -what- to alsaconf? they renamed alsacfg?02:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYand how if it can?02:30
nikkiaflankk, yes02:30
flankkokay02:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have it already just can't figure it out02:30
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, it is not windows based at all....there are no support windows dlls..02:30
concept10Aerebus, try this command: apt-cache search libsdl02:30
Aerebusso do i use "aptitude install SDL-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm02:30
Yukiconcept10, I mounted it successfully, but it says I have insufficient permission to access it02:30
Yukiconcept10, can you help?02:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , ok so if it is just dos how do i access the cdrom?02:31
Chillouthi, how can install java runtime environment on?02:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe dos 6.2 comand dosen't work02:31
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, well that code is being ported now..02:31
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flankknikkia, happen to have a link?02:32
concept10Yuki, try this: chmod 555 /dev/whatever02:32
nikkiaflankk, to what?02:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , ok so let me get this straight ...it can run doss programs but not access the cd-rom?02:32
flankknikkia, the source02:32
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trunghow can i read feeds?02:32
concept10Yuki, I meant sudo chmod02:32
nikkiaflankk: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa/ftp/02:32
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, all things have not been ported yet...it is only alpha 0.502:33
concept10trung, RSS feeds?02:33
Aerebusconcept10, well.... i have a emulator that says it uses libsdl, and when i type locate libsdl it says that i have it but when i go to double click the executable nothing happens02:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , oh ok i get it.....cool02:33
nikkiaflankk, you'll need to build at least alsa-driver and alsa-lib02:33
flankknikkia, okay02:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , any idea when it will be usable?02:33
concept10Aerebus, find out which specific libsdl it needs02:33
nikkiaif you don't use the same version as ubuntu, you'll also want to build alsa-oss and all of alsa-utils02:34
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Aerebusconcept10, i can cd into the dir the executable is located in and ./program and it starts in a terminal but i know it is a gui based program02:34
nikkiaflankk, another option...02:34
trungconcept10, yes02:34
Yukiconcept10, still not letting me access02:34
concept10Aerebus, they may have options to run it in a gui02:34
flankknikkia, why isn't it included in the ubuntu package?02:35
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nikkiaflankk: is to use a live-cd distro that *does* use alsaconf/alsaconfig/alsaconf, such as knoppix, to find out the alsa driver and parameters needed, then feed them into ubuntu's module list02:35
concept10trung, you may reed RSS feeds in firefox, thunderbird, or download a aggregator02:35
nikkiaas building alsa from source is very possibly going to mess things up02:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a program that can access the cd-rom while emulating dos ?02:35
nikkiaflankk: *shrug* i'm not an ubuntu maintainer, so you're asking the wrong person02:35
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concept10Yuki, the line that you added to /etc/fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1                    /mnt/win2k              ntfs            ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 002:36
flankknikkia, or alsacfg..lol why they change it so much? anyways, i'll pop in a knoppix cd02:36
concept10Yuki, similar02:36
Chillouthow do install sun java?02:36
flankk!java02:37
tiglionabbitChillout: I just made a wiki on that02:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:37
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tiglionabbitit's at02:37
Yukiconcept10, ok, I changed it to that, so do I need to umount and then mount again?02:37
tiglionabbithttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers02:37
dbernar1aerebus what is the name of the program/02:37
Chilloutubotu: ok, ill check that02:38
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Chillout02:38
concept10unmount command is umount02:38
flankklol..02:38
r2d4Hi! I used to use Suse for a server. Anyone know any YaST like alternatives (curses based UI) for common admin tasks.02:38
tiglionabbitChillout: ubotu is a bot02:38
Daveywhere the fuck is Amaranth? :)02:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu hi02:39
ubotuhey, church_of_foamy02:39
concept10Davey, somewhere wondering why you are using foul language02:39
Daveyr2d4: no, but you could try Webmin :)02:39
Daveyconcept10: he knows why :)02:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu whats up?02:39
ubotuChurcH_of_FoamY: I don't know, could you explain it?02:39
ChurcH_of_FoamY?02:39
Chillouttiglionabbit: oooh, i thx. didnt get it.02:39
r2d4Davey: OK! thanks.02:40
concept10Yuki, sorry umount the drive and save your /etc/fstab - and then run mount -a       and that mounts everything in /etc/fstab02:40
Yukiok tyty02:41
Daveydon't umount your / partition02:41
Daveythat would be bad :)02:41
Daveyso, has anyone got a way to decrypt my iTunes music?02:42
JormundgandAaaargh.02:42
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JormundgandI've found a project called gdchange on Sourceforge.02:43
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JormundgandIt requires the FAM daemon.02:43
JormundgandBut the FAM daemon package requires me to remove everything for some package called "portmap".02:43
medgnoJormundgand, gamin in the new 'fam' daemon02:43
brunontNeed some help. I installed winXP on my second HD(hdd2), but it seems like the win loader was installed on my first HD(hdb2). Now I installed ubuntu(hdd1) and grub had a option to the win loader. The problem is that I formatted hdb, and cant load win anymore!02:44
Yukiconcept10, it worked!  thanks!02:44
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Yukiconcept10, also, Konqueror tends to close and have errors...is there another file browser I can use?02:44
Jormundgandmedgno: ?02:44
fsghostYuki, have you closed the Konqueror side panel?02:45
tiglionabbitYuki: nautilus02:45
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brunontAny idea?02:45
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concept10Yuki, np. I use GNOME and I dont use Konqueror anymore even though it is nice.  But Nautilus in GNOME crashes sometimes also02:45
Yukiconcept10, so how do I fix it?02:46
tiglionabbitbrunont: you can add an item to your /boot/grub/menu.lst for windows02:46
flankkbrunont, you formatted the partition with windows too? that was probably more of a blessing than mistake.02:46
G|immerd4x gives Segmentation Fault. I installed it from repos. Can that be fixed?!02:46
tiglionabbit!paste02:46
ubotu[paste]  ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""02:46
G|immersounds like a memory error?!02:46
concept10Yuki, no idea on that since I dont use Konq.  You should search bug reports and/or submit one02:47
Yukiconcept10, okay thanks a lot, everything seems fine now02:47
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brunontflankk, no I can still access my win partition from ubuntu... its on hdd202:47
Jormundgandmedgno: your sentence did not make sense.02:48
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concept10Yuki, now help brunont mount his partition :)02:48
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tiglionabbithttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/310272 brunont-- this is what my windows entry in menu.lst looks like.  Adjust for the proper partition02:48
medgnoJormundgand, sorry, the package gamin is the new daemon that provides fam functionality02:48
JormundgandAh.02:48
JormundgandOkay.02:48
tiglionabbitdinner time02:48
brunonttiglionabbit: i tried rootnoverify (hd1,1).... isnt working02:49
asimismoGetting an error on boot: "Engine: Unable to open the control node for Device-Mapper.  The Engine will run without Device-Mapper support." Anyone got any ideas what I need to do?02:49
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Yukibrunount, what are you trying to do?02:49
brunontconcept10: i can mount and access the partition from ubuntu.... but now i need to load win!02:49
Dr_Willis /me wonders if brunont 's windows is even still there.02:50
YukiLOL02:50
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Dr_Willisyou just swaped the drives that windows was installed to?  added a new one and moved windows drive to a diffent ide cable connection?02:51
brunonti had win2000 at hdb2, then i installed a new HD and installed winXP at hdd202:51
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brunontand then i installed ubuntu at hdd102:51
concept10brunont, GRUB doesnt load it?02:51
brunontand formatted hdb(1 and 2)02:51
Dr_Willishmm.. no hda at all eh?02:51
brunontdoesnt!02:51
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ChurcH_of_FoamYThe reverse side also has a reverse side.02:52
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overtureanyone here use cygwin?02:52
concept10brunont, I did the same thing you did a couple of weeks back02:52
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Jormundgandchecking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no02:52
Jormundgandconfigure: error: required library missing02:52
JormundgandWhich package provides this? This is so cryptic ><02:52
Dr_Willisoverture,  i have a little here and there.02:52
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brunontdr_willis no, dont know why, but i left it slave02:52
harris|uERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the02:52
harris|u       Macromedia Flash Player installer02:52
harris|uGrrr.02:52
overtureim trying to get a windows client to backup its data to ubuntu server using rsync on cygwin02:53
brunontconcept10: what u did?02:53
Dr_Willisharris|u,  yep. :() thats why i am still running the 32 bit ubuntu.02:53
concept10brunont, You need to repair the MBR on the drive with windows on it.02:53
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bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, it is already bootable and can run a bash shell...so for developers it is already quite useful02:53
Dr_Willisoverture,  cant say that ive ever done that sorry.02:53
concept10brunont, do you have windows and linux on the same drive?02:53
overtureexcept, if i try to transfer a directory with more than 5 files in it, it crashes02:53
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Chillouthi there anyone knows how i can stop the notebook fan to run all the time with ubuntu?02:53
overtureto the point that the windows machine has to be hard reset02:53
Dr_Willisoverture,  Ugh.02:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , oh ok well i'm not a developer O_o i an't that smart with linux O_o02:54
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concept10Chillout, reduce your processor frequency if you have a scalable processor02:54
brunontconcept10: yes, now my hdb is blank.... and hdd is: hdd1 ubuntu, hdd2 winxp, hdd5(not sure) for personal data!02:54
Dr_WillisChillout,  Hmmm rephrase that... perhaps.. and it will be worth wile to google for that specific brand of laptop and linux support for it.02:54
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bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, well i suppose not everyone understands all the intricate details of NUMA code in GNU/Linux....that is why many prefer the flat memory model of DOS3202:55
brunontconcept10: any idea how can i repair the mbr for win?02:55
Chilloutconcept10: yes i have a scalable, its an amd athlon cp 2600+. but a) how do i reduce the it b) no other way, coz this will slow the system down!?02:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , is there any program you know of that can run dos games from the cd rom?02:56
concept10brunont, all I can tell you is that it is a pain in the ass to mess with boot loaders. (at least to me) See you have to rewrite or repair the windows MBR, and then reinstall grub. I will give you some links02:56
ubuntuHow do I get the mousewheel to work on my compaq laptop?02:56
Chilloutconcept10: actually this cpu monitor shows me the cpu running @ 529 MHz. which is already the lowest possible.02:56
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, yes...there is already freedos...and it can read cdroms perfectly02:56
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , if it can play games then can you tell me how to get it? ^_^02:57
concept10Chillout, how do you have your laptop positioned? I always prop mine up in the back so it can get some air and the fans cycle down when the load goes down02:57
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, just go download it...it is free....as in free....what is the problem?02:57
brunontconcept10: thanks, will wait!02:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , was just looking for a prog to run old dos games offa cd's02:58
bojangleshere02:58
concept10brunont, http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm02:58
bojangleshttp://www.freedos.org/02:58
aris_the anjuta setup in hoary seems broken02:58
concept10brunont, listen to this02:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles ,Thanx man ^_^02:59
thenostradamusis apt-get remove the cleanest way to uninstall programs?02:59
concept10brunont, you have to understand what you have to do.  Let me make it clear.  I cant goto through this one with you.02:59
aris_can you compile projects with anjuta ?02:59
Chilloutconcept10: it stands normally on my desk. as i said, the cup freq is @ minimum most of the time. tho the fan runs and the air coming out is not hot at all.02:59
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concept10brunont, You have to 1) Repair windows MBR   2)  Boot your system with a Live CD  3) Mount your drive and chroot into your system  4) reinstall or repair grub                   So basically you need to look up that information.  I gave you number one03:00
concept10Chillout, im not sure about your system.    You want the fans to completely cut off or cycle down?03:01
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Chilloutbruno10: but my harddrive seems to get unusually hot with ubunto! maybe that is the reason for the fan going. is a hot harddrive a known issue? can i check somehow if ubunto handles the harddrive in the right way?03:02
Chilloutconcept10: but my harddrive seems to get unusually hot with ubunto! maybe that is the reason for the fan going. is a hot harddrive a known issue? can i check somehow if ubunto handles the harddrive in the right way?03:02
Dr_Willishmm.. its possible the hd is not spinning down when not needed.03:02
flankkChillout, maybe you gave your computer something to think about :|03:02
brunontconcept10: a HD only have 1 MBR or it has 1 for each partition?03:02
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ChilloutDr_Willis: how do i make it spin down?03:03
concept10Chillout, hot harddrive is not a Ubuntu issue AFAIK03:03
Dr_WillisChillout,  problem with it spinning down.. is that its slow to start back up  when ya need it.03:03
flankkChillout, lower the current xD check your ACPI settings03:04
brunontcause if I recover the win MBR and the reinstall grub, isnt it goint to erase the win information again??03:04
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concept10brunont, a HD has only one MBR, see your problem is probably that GRUB didnt recognize your windows boot information03:04
ChilloutDr_Willis: clear. still how can set the spin down props?03:04
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Chilloutflankk: sorry, this linus/ubuntu is all new to me. i dont understand what u mean.03:05
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, it also supports the old sound blaster cards very well for your old dos stuff03:05
concept10brunont, well dont rewrite the MBR just use that guide to fix your NTLDR03:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles ,sweet ^_^ downloading it now Tjnx03:06
bojanglesChurcH_of_FoamY, but you do need to configure autoexec.bat and config.sys for your hardware03:06
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concept10brunont, look ar that guide I gave you. Scroll down to where it says Fixing boot problems03:06
flankkChillout, did you touch your harddrive? how do you know it's hot? lmao If it is reading a lot and the drive spins up, it's probably because you have a swap partition on the same drive as your root partition.  Sometimes the is -really- noticable on old harddrives03:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbojangles , oh shit realy? i forgot how to do that >.<03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYgoes to read the website03:07
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dryadHello. Earlier I was recommended to convert my NTFS partitions into FAT32 before installing Ubuntu. I have done so on a 1gb partition of mine now, without any problems. Now I'm trying to perform the same task on a ~170gb large partition, however, my system reboots while creating the index03:08
bccscan FAT handle 170gb?03:10
jasoncohendryad, that's because the maximum partition size of fat32 is around 2 GB03:10
brunontconcept10: Hmm, im going to try... copy ntldr, ntdetected (I think its still there), and then fixboot03:10
jasoncohenhttp://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/partCluster-c.html03:10
flankkbccs, NO lol03:10
underlinei think fat32 do not handle 170gb03:10
underline:P03:10
jasoncohen2,047.69 MB is the max03:10
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tiglionabbitok I'm back03:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm , That diden't help much >.<03:10
dryadjasoncohen, thats funny - people in here said that they had 500gb fat32 partitions03:10
tiglionabbitI have a 60gb fat32 partition03:11
concept10brunont, try the fixboot first03:11
dryadI thought fat16 was limited to 2gb03:11
hondjethat don't make sense03:11
brunontok.03:11
hondjeI have an mp3 player, and it's 20 gigs and fat03:11
jasoncohentiglionabbit, oh, so what's the limit on fat32?03:11
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: no idea, I didn't know there was one03:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just gives some software comands but dosen't tell anything usefull to my situation03:11
bccsbetter google on that issue03:12
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dryadI am03:12
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brunonti think that fixboot will be enough.... and mantaining my MBR with a call to root (hd1,1) is going to work...03:12
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tiglionabbitbrunont: hd1,1 is hdb203:13
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brunontmy MBR with GRUB that will call the win boot sector at hdb2!03:13
brunontisnt it?03:13
concept10bbl03:13
jasoncohen FAT32 supports partitions up to 2 TB (that's terrabytes, 2000 GB or 2,000,000 MB).03:13
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jasoncohenhttp://members.aol.com/don5408/drivespace/part_fat32.html03:13
jasoncohenguess i was just off by a few 0s03:13
dryadheh03:14
brunontfixboot will not change my MBR, right?03:14
tiglionabbitbrunont: to make sure you have the right partition there, use 'sudo fdisk -l' to list your partitions03:14
dryadoh well, then it doesn't make any sence why partition magic is doing this :/03:14
jasoncohendryad, i guess it should work then03:14
naliothjasoncohen: and files of only 4gb03:14
jasoncohenthat's a pretty small file limit03:14
naliothjasoncohen: yes, it sux03:14
jasoncohenmy average mythtv file is 3.303:14
brunontok, thanks everybody..... bye bye...03:14
jasoncoheni had a 12 GB one for a moive03:14
jasoncohenwith XFS03:14
dryadI have 4,5gb large files on the disk03:15
harris|uhow 2 burn an iso to a cd? ;o03:15
tiglionabbitbrunont: get anything wrking?03:15
rendihi guys03:16
rendii'm stuck with this03:16
naliothharris|u: use k3b or gnomebaker or graveman03:16
rendiFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatchE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:16
tiglionabbitharris|u: use k3b for linux, or alchohol120 or nero for windows03:16
rendiany help for me03:16
bojangles_ChurcH_of_FoamY, what do you mean you gave it commands...did you already install it03:16
naliothrendi: have you --fixed-missing?03:16
harris|uthanks.03:16
rendidone03:16
jasoncohenharris|u, in nautilus right click on the iso and choose burn cd03:16
rendii have that03:16
tiglionabbitrendi: remove "us." from that repository name03:16
bojangles_ChurcH_of_FoamY, on a spare partition or something03:16
tiglionabbitrendi: the US repositories are messed up at the moment03:16
rendiic03:16
rendiwait i will try03:16
tiglionabbit!repositories03:16
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:16
jasoncohenharris|u, actually it would be "write to cd"03:17
tiglionabbitthat guide will tell you how to change it03:17
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nalioths_dogrendi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:17
harris|ujasoncohen,  nautilus? sorry, i'm new to ubuntu03:17
TokenBadso much for asking in cedega channel about my problem...no one said anything in there in the last hour03:17
naliothharris|u: your file manager03:17
tiglionabbitnautilus is gnome's file browser03:17
harris|unew = been using it for all of 10 minutes03:17
jasoncohentiglionabbit, tell them to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:17
harris|uokay, thanks03:17
naliothharris|u: applications > system tools > file manager03:17
jasoncohentiglionabbit, it should be quite easy to follow now03:17
Dr_WillisTokenBad,  heh - i seem to be banned from #cedega - and ive never even been in there.03:17
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: I already had ubotu print that out03:17
bojangles_Dr_Willis, well so what i get banned everywhere03:18
jasoncohenharris|u, nautilus is gnome's file manager03:18
naliothjasoncohen: love the "job well done attitude" heh03:18
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ed1thello nalioth03:18
naliothed1t: howdy03:18
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jasoncohennalioth, heh03:18
naliothRazor-X: are you here? did you get transcode up and running?03:19
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TokenBadDr_Willis, you on the right network?03:19
TokenBadits not on this one03:19
TokenBadnevermind03:20
TokenBadyes it is03:20
Dr_Willis:)03:20
TokenBad#cedega03:20
TokenBadoops03:20
eskaypeyhi how do i give permision to normal user to write in locked folder?03:20
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ubuntudo you know which one i need?  http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp03:20
naliotheskaypey: do YOU want to write to the folder?03:20
jtgameovereskaypey, something like sudo chmod a+w foldername03:20
ubuntuthere's two linux files.03:20
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nalioths_dogubuntu: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 03:21
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eskaypeyis there the way to do it from gui?03:21
TokenBadDr_Willis, don't seem like they can help or want to help in there anyway03:21
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eskaypeynalioth: yes03:21
naliotheskaypey: not easily03:21
tiglionabbitnalioth: is that really the best method of getting java?03:21
naliotheskaypey: you'd have to open a gui file mangler as root, which can mess up your setting really really badly03:21
tiglionabbitnalioth: it worked for me the way I put in my guide03:22
naliothtiglionabbit: that method was written by seveas03:22
eskaypeyahh.. well i need to copy lik 20 files03:22
eskaypeylike*03:22
naliotheskaypey: TO the dir?03:22
Dr_WillisTokenBad,  i alwyas use the cedega message boards and forums and wiki's03:22
eskaypeyyep03:22
tiglionabbitubuntu new is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:22
tiglionabbitubotu new is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:22
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit03:22
naliotheskaypey: you are not familiar with the terminal?03:22
nalioth!newusers03:23
ubotuwell, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:23
TokenBadI have asked in there as well03:23
TokenBadno one responded03:23
jtgameover!pizza03:23
ubotujtgameover: I haven't a clue03:23
naliothtiglionabbit: why the "new"?03:23
tiglionabbitubotu forget new03:23
ubotutiglionabbit: i forgot new03:23
eskaypeynalioth: well i know basic commands just dunno how to go with this one03:23
tiglionabbitnalioth: I forgot what word we were using for it03:23
VelcanHeya. Trying to get my wireless pcmcia dev to work? D-Link DLW-G630 -- It actually shows up in the device manager (and goes away / returns if I am to remove and reinsert it) but the device itself does not come on, including no power indicating lights.03:23
naliotheskaypey: its much safer to do it in the terminal (opening gui apps as root is not a nice thing)03:24
ameobawhen you do a "server" install, it says it installs "just the base system" - what all does that actually entail?03:25
tiglionabbitameoba: basic text-mode gnu stuff03:25
naliotha complete X-less system03:25
rendi!whisky03:26
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?03:26
Dr_WillisHmm.. MS has a "shared computer resource toolkit" looks like they are tryng to get it where one can actually LOCKDOWN and secure an xp machine.. Lol..03:26
naliothameoba: a server install will allow you to check email, browse the web, produce text documents, etc03:26
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ameobaare we talking "no manpages" minimal or "only one version of emacs" minimal?03:26
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harris|unalioth, When right clicking -> write to CD -- I get "There was an error writing to the CD:03:27
harris|uThe system is too slow to write the CD at this speed. Try a lower speed." Even when I tried writing a 1x -- Is this common?03:27
naliothDr_Willis: want to bet, they back-burner it, too?03:27
tiglionabbitameoba: no emacs, but all the man pages03:27
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naliothharris|u: what hardware do you have?03:27
Dr_Willisnalioth,  they force ya to regiester to install it.. then they force you to validate yoru windows copy.. again.. (and that failed because firefox is my default browser)03:27
Dr_WillisI just want to prevent the kids from breaking xp again! :P03:27
harris|unalioth, a643200+, 1gig 3200+ OCZ ram, AMD 9800 PRO, 80gig WD Raptor03:27
naliothDr_Willis: <tears tears> failed invalidation...horrors!03:28
harris|unalioth,  the burner is sony03:28
eskaypeynalioth: can you tell me how i can do that?03:28
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naliothharris|u: i'd install k3b03:28
Dr_Willisnalioth,  yea - they are getting VERY overboard on the validate everything wagon.03:28
tiglionabbitunless you like tasty baked gnomes03:28
naliotheskaypey: open a terminal and type "man cp" for a  overview of what you want to do03:28
Dr_WillisThank you for using the Windows Genuine Advantage program. You may now access resources for genuine Windows users.03:28
harris|unalioth,  okay -- I'm REALLY new, how do I install it if you don't mind :x03:29
Dr_WillisGuess this way they can allow piracy - and still sort of be anti-piracy :P03:29
tiglionabbitDr_Willis: oh no, I'm actually a Linux user in disguise!03:29
naliothharris|u: System > Admin > Synaptic Package Mangler03:29
naliothharris|u: search for 'k3b'03:29
Dr_Willistiglionabbit,  they will come and get you!03:29
VelcanIs there anything that has to be done to activate a pcmcia device03:29
harris|uokay03:29
pmaihm03:30
naliothguys, i have very dark secret...03:30
nalioththis irssi is running on a remote OSX box03:30
pmai"There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///mnt/videon~1/chen~1.mpg", you might need to install the corresponding plugins"03:30
tiglionabbitnalioth: so?03:30
bccshey03:30
bccsWhy is it so important to keep backports commented??03:30
naliothpmai: that is not a stream03:30
pmaiwhen i opened mp3, .mpg with totem03:30
tiglionabbitpmai: you need some codecs03:31
tiglionabbit!newusers03:31
ubotuI guess newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:31
tiglionabbit!restricted03:31
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:31
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naliothbccs: b/c there are version discrepancys that can break your upgradeability03:31
tiglionabbitpmai: read those wikis and they should explain it to you03:31
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bccstiglionabbit, good wiki NewUbuntuUsers03:31
tiglionabbitthank you, I wrote it myself03:32
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jasoncohendamn- installing a new kernel is easy. sudo apt-get install linux-686 linux-headers-686 installed kernel headers, linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and linux-restricted-modules-686 so i didn't have to even re-install the madwifi or nvidia drivers because they were installed from restricted modules- very nice indeed!03:32
tiglionabbitbccs: well, there have been a few issues where backports has broken dependencies, making it hard to install certain packages.  However, I believe those are all currently resolved, so you don't really have to comment it at the moment03:33
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VelcanIs anyone in here familiar with setting up pcmcia wireless cards, or could someone direct me to a room where I might have better luck?03:33
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jasoncohenbccs, for example, up until a few days ago konversation 0.18 from backports depended on KDE 3.4.1 libraries preventing kubuntu-desktop from being installed unless you forced the hoary version of konversation. i posted this issue on the backports forum and mez fixed it the same day03:34
AerebusI'm having a problem with my updater in ubuntu and also something are not apt-get'in properly i.e. md5 checksum mismatches can someone help me fix this?03:34
jasoncohenonce backports goes official we'll begin seeing less of these problems03:34
pmaitiglionabbit, i got it03:34
naliothAerebus: the repos are wonky03:34
tiglionabbitbccs: here's the forum thread if you wanted to read about it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3773603:34
AV8hi..i m having problem connecting msn messenger on gaim...what can i do? yahoo is working fine on it though its just msn....and how can i update my version of gaim??03:34
nalioths_dogAerebus: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:34
nalioths_dogAerebus: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:34
jasoncohenAerebus, make sure you're not using us.archive repositories- use the default03:34
tiglionabbitAV8: msn messenger goes down frequently.  Usually you can assume that it's MSN's problem.  You can ask on #gaim, too03:35
naliothAerebus: follow the dogs advice, and you'll be fixed up03:35
ubuntuwhere are some videos that ubuntu can play?03:35
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ubuntui have ubuntu live cd.03:35
ubuntu5.04 intel x8603:35
naliothubuntu: you are on liveCD NOW?03:35
ubuntuyes03:35
tiglionabbitAerebus: you probably have the "us" repositories.  We know they are not working right now.  The sources list nalioth gave you should work03:36
naliothubuntu: then google for mpg, as i think thats all you can play from the livecd03:36
ubuntuokthx03:36
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AV8how about updating the latest version whats the command to do that???03:36
tiglionabbitAV8: actually, I can connect to msn on gaim right no, so it's not down03:36
AV8damm03:36
jasoncohennalioth, lol...well you can install stuff on the live cd03:36
AV8it was working fine on msn messenger in windows...i was online for like an hour or so...03:37
tiglionabbitAV8: you can use synaptic's Update button, or the update manager that appears in the notification area (system tray thingy).  Or you can say sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the newest of everything, at console03:37
naliothjasoncohen: how long is ubuntu gonna keep his livecd operating?03:37
jasoncohennalioth, i've actually done it- i installed libdvdcss2, w32codecs and some gstreamer plugins- not fast- but it works03:37
AV8thanks03:37
AV8:)03:37
naliothjasoncohen: you've raised another point i need to make03:37
jasoncohennalioth, i'm just saying- if you want to see if some multimedia codec works you can always install the package you need....and learn how to use synaptic at the same time with absolutely no danger of messing up your system03:38
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jasoncohenlive-cd is kind of like a safe learning zone03:38
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Aerebusnalioth, when i open synaptic and click repos i see that lis tpopup but it goes poof03:38
jasoncohennalioth, what point was that?03:38
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jasoncohenAerebus, poof?03:39
b_e_n_zanyone using sablevm on ubuntu?03:39
naliothjasoncohen: i'll make in in -nun or the newusersnetworkguidelines03:39
tiglionabbit!repositories03:39
ubotuit has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:39
tiglionabbitAerebus: make sure you check the box to show disabled repositories.  That guide has a screenshot03:39
Aerebusdisappears.... comes up refreshes and closes03:39
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harris|uwhat IS a repository? ;o03:39
Aerebusi cant get to the box lol03:39
naliothAerebus: your synaptic is just refreshing its source list03:40
tiglionabbitharris|u: a repository is a place on the net where you can get .deb packages from03:40
Aerebusit opens refreshes and closes03:40
jasoncohenAerebus, hitting preferences kills synaptic?03:40
Aerebusyep03:40
harris|uthanks tiglionabbit :)03:40
Aerebusno i'm in preferences03:40
jasoncohenAerebus, you sure it's not just refreshing03:40
naliothAerebus: time for terminal03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=9103:40
jasoncohendid you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto?03:40
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jasoncohenAerebus, so you enabled "show disabled software sources" and hit OK03:40
jasoncohenAerebus, and then what happened?03:41
Aerebusok03:41
Aerebusi opened synaptic03:41
tiglionabbitharris|u: apt keeps a list of them in /etc/apt/sources.list, and gets things from those when you command it to using apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic03:41
Aerebusclicke don settings03:41
Aerebusthen repos03:41
Aerebusa box pops up03:41
dbernar1sure does03:41
jasoncohenok...and03:41
Aerebusthe one i'm supposed to make that checkmark in (although i think i've already done that) the box refreshes itself or synaptic and then closes, i never get the chance to do anything03:42
naliothAerebus: close synaptic03:42
Aerebusclosed03:42
naliothAerebus: open a terminal please03:42
dbernar1that happens for some reason, I had the same thing...03:42
Aerebusopen as root03:43
jasoncohenAerebus, open a terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:43
naliothAerebus: nope03:43
dbernar1without sudo, since you are root,.03:43
Aerebusterminal open03:43
jasoncohenwon't matter actually03:43
dbernar1ah, true:)03:43
dbernar1do what jasoncohen said03:43
nalioth"root terminal" is a holdover from debian, i believe and using it on ubuntu can confuse the system imho03:43
tiglionabbitnalioth: why don't you advise them to do applications -> run application, and type in gksudo gedit?03:44
jasoncohensudo -s to get a "root" terminal03:44
tiglionabbitnalioth: are you sure about that?03:44
naliothtiglionabbit: why don't you?03:44
dbernar1tiglionabbit: same thing.03:44
dbernar1bah03:44
tiglionabbityeah but it's easier for gui people03:44
naliothtiglionabbit: discovery is fun03:44
tiglionabbitheh, well it's what I put in my guide03:44
tiglionabbit!newusers03:44
ubotunewusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:44
jasoncohenAerebus, ok, you want to change the current URL to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/03:44
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naliothtiglionabbit: i was gonna take Aerebus down the 'nano' road03:44
jasoncohenAerebus, basically remove the us03:44
tiglionabbitnalioth: oo, fun times03:45
naliothtiglionabbit: your guide is a community guide03:45
jasoncohenAerebus, and same with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu - remove the us if there is one03:45
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tiglionabbitnalioth: community meaning it's not mine because I link too many places, in a good way in that it's okay to keep plugging it?03:45
jasoncohenAerebus, do that for all lines that have us in them and then save and quit. you can then sudo apt-get update03:45
HunchHello03:46
naliothtiglionabbit: you're a community member now03:46
naliothhowdy, hunch03:46
jasoncohenyou are contributing to a community project. it's not "yours"03:46
tiglionabbitnalioth: =}03:46
jasoncohenit's ours03:46
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: hey.  I wrote it though03:46
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ed1t!newusers03:47
ubotunewusers is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers03:47
ed1thmm03:47
jasoncohentiglionabbit, the entire thing/03:47
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ed1t!commands03:47
ubotuWish i knew, ed1t03:47
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ed1t!help03:47
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ed1theh03:47
Aerebusthis is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46403:47
Aerebusgood?03:47
jasoncohenyes, but what's with the #'s on blank lines?03:48
Aerebussomeone had me copy theirs...03:48
naliothjasoncohen: those lines are commented out03:48
ed1tAerebus, heres the official ubuntu sources http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/3803:48
tiglionabbitAerebus: yep.  You can comment out your CD too, if you have fast enough internet and don't want to carry it around with you03:48
ed1t39 mayve03:49
ed1tmaybe*03:49
naliothAerebus: tiglionabbit has a point03:49
jasoncohennalioth, so, it's just weird line cut-offs03:49
jasoncohenwell, there is a problem then03:49
jasoncohennalioth, if those lines are commented out he has no security or updates source03:49
naliothjasoncohen: they don't affect anything03:49
ed1twat happened to paste 38?03:49
ed1toops its .nl03:50
tiglionabbit!sources03:50
ubotusources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:50
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naliothjasoncohen: all his lines are good03:50
ed1tthere03:50
ed1t!topic add03:50
naliothAerebus: good to go, close up gedit, and reload your synaptic03:50
jasoncohennalioth, so, nothing is commented out except the # lines...so he commented out nothing?03:50
naliothed1t: what the devil are you doing?03:50
jasoncohenAerebus, sudo apt-get update03:50
Aerebusnalioth can i just use http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/38 as my sources.list? i.e. highlight everything comments and all and just paste http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/38 into it?03:50
cleberbe carefull03:50
naliothjasoncohen: or whomever sent him the list03:50
ed1theh nothing...im just checking ubotu around03:51
naliothAerebus: yes, you can back up the list you have and use the nl one as is03:51
naliothed1t: he's around03:51
VelcanCan anyone help me setup a pcmcia wireless card03:51
jasoncohenAerebus, yeah, you can03:51
ed1tlol03:51
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jasoncohenAerebus, any idea why you have blank lines commented out?03:51
naliothjasoncohen: Aerebus said he'd been sent that list in that form from another user03:52
bccshey, what's the best File Sharing app?03:52
naliothbccs: for what?03:52
tiglionabbitbccs: there are many different ways of filesharing03:53
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bccsvideo, music...03:53
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bccslike soulseek03:53
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gotonpoget nicotine if you like soulseek03:53
tiglionabbitbccs: it depends on the network you're interested in.  There is a linux soulseek port, I think it's called nicotine03:53
naliothwe only share legal stuff, tho03:54
bccsis there a imesh cliente for linux? do you guys know any?03:54
naliothheh03:54
naliothbccs, you might have fun at packages.ubuntu.com03:54
jinximesh, lol03:54
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jasoncohennalioth, all a user has to do is uncomment all the deb lines- or to check off a few boxes and hit reload in synaptic? what's the point of users sharing sources.list files?03:54
naliothbccs: if you have no luck there, try sourceforge.net03:54
bccsnalioth, tks, 'll try that now03:55
naliothjasoncohen: perhaps Aerebus was being helped by someone else?03:55
Aerebusi'm here03:55
jinxnalioth, cool, sourceforge.net now has video and music?03:55
Aerebusjust making sure i dont foul up03:55
naliothjinx: no, sourceforge has linux apps running out its orifices03:56
FlannelKingno jinx, he was talking about for apps03:56
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Aerebusi think its fixed :)03:57
ed1thow do i install tcl? is it apt-get install tcl?03:58
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x2l2who is breezy?03:58
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ed1t!tcl03:58
ubotuI don't know, ed1t03:58
naliothed1t: did you search using synaptic?03:58
ed1tyea i searched for tcl03:58
naliothed1t: its !info tcl03:58
x2l2what is brezzy ?.P03:58
ed1t!info tcl03:58
jessetylerWhoa, 464 people. XD03:58
naliothx2l2: breezy is the next version of ubuntu03:58
nalioth!good bot03:59
ubotuthanks nalioth :)03:59
x2l2Nakkel, thanks03:59
naliothwtf03:59
nalioth!info tcl-tk03:59
x2l2but.. its don go out on 3 months ...03:59
naliothx2l2: and?03:59
jessetylerAnyone recommend any good games for linux? >_>03:59
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spanglesontoastis it true what I've been hearing about ubuntu?04:00
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Ahabwhat are the merits/differences between totem-gstreamer vs. totem-xine?  the reason I ask is I was reading the xine website and it talks about playing real audio/video files.  try as I might I can't get real to work at all.  I tried using the installer from within synaptic and then just then simply the instructions of the real website.  At worst, the program started and then died (I couldn't even get a terminal afterwards!), at best I click04:00
Ahabed on it's menu in the gnome panel and it did nothing.  So can can totem-xine fit the bill for me?  Or is there a compelling reason the folks at Canonical chose totem-gstreamer?04:00
naliothjessetyler: enable your universe and multiverse repos and you'll find a potload of games of all kinds04:00
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: that depends what you've been hearing.  If you've heard it's awesome, then yes04:00
spanglesontoastlol04:00
AhabSorry for the massive amount of text:)04:00
spanglesontoastI mean't the ubuntu foundation04:00
jessetylerI did. :p I was just wondering if there are any specific good games. :p04:00
Kumasandoes the Ubuntu kernel in Breezy come with inotify enabled?04:00
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naliothjessetyler: that is a ford or chevy question04:01
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tiglionabbitjessetyler: there is a list of them on ubuntuforums04:01
tiglionabbitthere's a link to that list in my wiki04:01
tiglionabbit!newusers04:01
ubotusomebody said newusers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:01
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jessetylerI'm such an idiot sometimes. :p I forget to check the forums. :p04:02
spanglesontoastis there anything in the reposabout podcasting?04:02
VelcanHow bout this ... Any graphically advanced games designed to run on Linux? :D04:02
BlackWolfi just installed ubuntu and can not access the root i didn't set a password can anyone tell me wat it is by default04:02
tiglionabbitBlackWolf:04:02
tiglionabbit!newusers04:02
ubotuI heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:02
naliothjessetyler: you can use synaptic and view by section (at bottom left) to look at all the games04:02
KumasanBlackWolf: don't use root, use sudo04:02
tiglionabbit!rootsudo04:02
uboturootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:02
nalioth!sudo04:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:02
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bccsBlackWolf, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:02
FlannelKingVelcan, There are tons, both commercial and not, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory has a native linux version04:03
bccsBlackWolf, will help you a lot04:03
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spanglesontoastwill the foundation not affect us users?04:03
bccsBlackWolf, by tiglionabbit04:03
jessetylero_o04:03
naliothspanglesontoast: only to our benefi04:03
naliotht04:03
rob^tiglionabbit, nuu is just replicating info already in the wiki, whats the point of it?04:03
BlackWolfthanks04:03
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tiglionabbitrob^: what?04:03
spanglesontoastoks04:03
Jesse1can some1 show me how to install my canon i250 printer04:03
rob^sudo for example..04:03
spanglesontoasti hate resolutions in ubuntu04:04
tiglionabbitrob^: it has a list of things new users should know04:04
naliothtiglionabbit: i got rob^'s question04:04
spanglesontoasti may reboot into ubuntu in a moment04:04
VelcanAnyone here be able to help me with my wireless card problems?04:05
ed1they guys, can i put my own bot in here?04:05
ed1tVelcan, wat wireless card is it?04:05
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naliothed1t: not advised04:05
VelcanDLW-G63004:05
Velcannot listed :(04:05
Jesse1can some1 show me how to install my canon i250 printer?04:05
Velcanbut it shows up in the dev amn04:05
ed1tk04:05
Velcanman04:05
asimismoAnybody know why I wouldn't be able to open the control node for Device-Mapper on boot?04:05
Velcanits just doesnt appear to have any power04:06
nalioths_dogJesse1: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.04:06
rob^nalioths_dog, otherwise people will repeat the same answer in here..04:06
naliothrob^: ya get those /notices?04:07
tiglionabbitrob^: the purpose of my guide is to put all of the most frequently asked questions in one place, so people who are new to the distro can easily find their answers.  I am not replicating information, but instead linking to quality guides already available for these topics04:07
SDFH_Linuxdoes ubuntu pick up wireless cards?04:07
SDFH_Linuxautomatically?04:07
rob^umm.. faq anyone?04:07
tiglionabbitSDFH_Linux: it worked for mine04:07
naliothSDFH_Linux: please be more specific04:07
KumasanJesse1: <http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22870.htm>  first result upon googling for canon i250 ubuntu04:07
rob^that is the purpose of one04:07
VelcanEven if I am to remove and readd the device from the pcmcia slot the dev man removes and readds it to the list04:08
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SDFH_Linuxnetgear wg511 pcmia card would it pick that up?04:08
Velcanyes04:08
SDFH_Linuxyes?04:08
Velcanthat one was on their list but mine isnt :(04:08
SDFH_Linuxyay04:09
asimismoSee, I can't boot. Because of the Device-Mapper is unopenable. And I don't know why.04:09
Velcan:P04:09
Velcanso was the wg511T04:09
Velcandamn d-link! :~(04:09
rob^tiglionabbit, there is very little there if anything there that wont be covered in the offical faq when its released04:09
SDFH_Linuxhow about dlink 650+04:09
FlannelKingrob^, if people here ask the questions already IN the documentation, then obviously they haven't checked there first, and we should redirect them04:09
Jesse1Kumasan, I looked at that already04:09
Velcani think that one was on line but not as working by default04:09
tiglionabbitrob^: what official faq that isn't released yet are you talking about?04:10
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rob^FlannelKing, you should redirect them to the offical docs04:10
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FlannelKingthose ARE the official docs04:10
rob^tiglionabbit, in the subversion repo. To be released with Breezy04:10
tiglionabbitrob^: subversion?04:11
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root_nick ramiro04:11
naliothrob^: if you go to this url, you will see the official project that is in charge of tiglionabbit's endeavors04:11
SDFH_Linuxhow about dlink 650+ wireless card will ubuntu pick it up?04:11
jasoncohenwhy is ubuntu able to packge fglrx and nvidia drivers with ubuntu but not gstreamer0.8-mad in main?04:11
nalioth rob^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NewUserMentors04:11
root_alguien que hable espaol?04:11
root_ramiro nick04:12
naliothjasoncohen: are the nvidia and fglrx drivers open source?04:12
tiglionabbitheh, actually I didn't really know about the project when I started writing it.  But I will probably help with that project, and they are already adopting some of the stuffs I wrote04:12
root_nickname ramiro04:12
naliothroot_: en #ubuntu-es, por favor04:12
rob^tiglionabbit, subversion is software the docteam uses to store their offical docs while they work on them04:12
root_hola nalioth04:12
tiglionabbitrob^: how do I access it?04:12
IceDC571!info lsb04:12
ubotulsb: (Linux Standard Base 2.0 core support package), section misc, is extra. Version: 2.0-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 188 kB04:12
naliothrob^: it's a wiki04:13
ameobatrying to install emacs, keep getting a MD5sum mismatch on emacs21-bin-common.  Done an apt-get update.  any suggestions?04:13
naliothameoba: the repos are wonky04:13
jasoncohennalioth, no- both are closed source04:13
rob^tiglionabbit, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SubversionRepository04:13
tiglionabbitameoba: you probably have the "us" repositories04:13
tiglionabbit!newusers04:13
ubotuhmm... newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:13
tiglionabbit!repositories04:13
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:13
tiglionabbit!sources04:13
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:13
jasoncohennalioth, the only thing i can think of is that mp3 may require licensing fees to include support in an application and therefore might be illegal in the US04:13
jasoncohenis this the case?04:14
tiglionabbit=p I should stop pulling out my !s04:14
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naliothmp3 is problematic04:14
bccsI want to know why is so dificult to make linux write on NTFS. Can someone point me to a link?04:14
jasoncohenis there a list of commands to control ubotu04:14
tiglionabbit!help04:14
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jasoncohenbccs, because it would have to be reverse engineered04:14
bccs!help04:14
naliothbccs: cuz microshaft hasnt released any specs on NTFS, and the linux devs are figgering it out a piece  at a time04:15
jasoncohenbccs, there is a way to do this and it's supposed to be pretty safe but it's no longer being supported. i forget the name of the module you need04:15
tiglionabbitcaptive-nfts?04:15
tiglionabbit*ntfs04:15
naliothjasoncohen: bccs its captive-ntfs04:15
harris|uDoes anyone have a good guide for users just starting in Linux? Or what I should do once I install ubuntu, how to install / complile things?04:15
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root_quien habla espaol04:15
jasoncohenyeah, he needs captive- that's it04:15
x2l2yoo04:15
naliothjasoncohen: and i have better sense than to load a windows lib into my kernel04:15
jasoncohennalioth, is it safe?04:15
tiglionabbit!newusers04:15
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root_o que canal es en espaol?04:15
ubotunewusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:15
naliothroot_: esta no personas in #ubuntu-es?04:16
VelcanSDFH - here's the link i was looking at for supported wifi cards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:16
jasoncohentiglionabbit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers is really good- very nice job04:16
naliothjasoncohen: i cant use it at all, i have a PPC04:16
x2l2root_, #ubuntu-es04:16
Velcandwl-g630 isnt even in the freaking list :~(04:17
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jasoncohentiglionabbit, you forgot gstreamer0.8-mad. mind if i add it to the list?04:17
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: is that necessary?  What exactly does it add?04:17
ameobatiglionabbit: I understand how APT works just fine - but if the default official repo is broken, which one should I use?04:17
Velcani feal like im so close to getting it to work cause i can actualy see the device ... yet im soooo far away :(04:17
LinuxJonesroot_, you know your not supposed to use that account for irc and general desktop usage ?04:17
jasoncohentiglionabbit, are you kidding? it adds mp3 support04:18
tiglionabbitameoba: you should edit your sources.list and just delete the "us." in the source names04:18
jasoncohentiglionabbit, it is the MOST essential multimedia plugin for most users04:18
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: oooo sheeet, okay04:18
naliothameoba: if you remove the us. from in front of your URLS in your sources, you'll randomly hit the next available server04:18
jasoncohentiglionabbit, w/o it rythmbox is pretty useless04:18
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: feel free to edit however you want04:18
Kumasananyone have beagle running on Breezy?04:18
jasoncohenis gstreamer0.8-vorbis installed by default on hoary?04:19
bccstiglionabbit, is there a place where i can put a translation of the wiki you made? Can i make NewUbuntuUser_ptbr or something like that?04:19
root_no lo se04:19
jasoncohentiglionabbit, maybe we should just put gstreamer0.8-plugins. that's the meta package and will download all the plugins04:20
tiglionabbitbccs: go ahead04:20
ameobanalioth - round robin DNS?04:20
naliothbccs: i'd wait a few days, its gonna grow04:20
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: ok04:20
root_alguien que me explique como usar esto04:20
root_bien04:20
naliothameoba: something like that04:20
jasoncohennalioth, what do you think we should recommend in the Audio/Video section of newubuntuusers?04:20
VelcanAnyone in the cannel yet that might be able to help me with my wireless card issues?04:20
jasoncohennalioth, gstreamer0.8-plugins or individual plugins?04:20
naliothroot_: nosotros no hablamos espanol aqui, por favor muevete de #ubunte-es04:20
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tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-plugins04:21
ubotugstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 56 kB04:21
jasoncohentiglionabbit, apt-cache show gstreamer0.8-plugins04:21
bigfoot1Is there a way to search through the Ubuntu-users mailing list archive at http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users?04:21
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tiglionabbitjasoncohen: be sure to put that in the last sentence, where I mention totem-xine, because it's in univers rather than backports04:21
jasoncohentiglionabbit, ok04:21
naliothjasoncohen: i think advising the addition of uni and multi, and then using synaptic to search for 'gstreamer*" and deciding for themselves what they want/need04:21
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naliothlawsy, my spanish sucks hard04:22
jasoncohennalioth, i think we should atleast advise gstreamer0.8-mad...almost everyone wants mp3 support04:22
pmaihow transparents window?04:22
naliothjasoncohen: what about us apple user/switchers? aac/mp4?04:22
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: are you editing it now, or should I?04:22
naliothjasoncohen: what about windows audiophiles ? flac?04:23
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: I think the gstreamer one should be in the second sentence.  It's not in backports04:23
jasoncohentiglionabbit, i am04:23
jasoncohendoing that now tiglionabbit04:23
jasoncohenoh, sorry04:23
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VelcanWhat's the tool used to add new networking devices?04:24
tiglionabbitit's just lame that's in the backports I believe04:24
tiglionabbitVelcan: you mean network-admin ?04:24
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stetyRhello04:24
Velcanthat might be it .... the only tool i have found via the gui that comes close looks a lot different that i remember04:24
LinuxJonesstetyR, welcome04:25
stetyRthanks04:25
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Velcani remember a gui that listed my installed devs as well as having an option to add a new device04:25
adwaithey ppl04:25
asimismoIs there a way to scroll back in the console? FreeBSD makes it really easy...04:25
LinuxJonesadwait, hiya04:26
tiglionabbitasimismo: control-pageUp, or shift-pageUp04:26
adwaitasimismo: console.....as in terminal?04:26
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asimismotiglionabbit: That did it! Thanks!04:26
stetyRvery cool04:26
asimismoadwait: Yup04:26
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hoslerhas anyone gotten steam to work with winex3?04:27
tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-mad04:27
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB04:27
VelcanYea that is the tool but they have changed it ...04:27
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Velcani went to the help section for the network-admin tool and in the screens it shows it the way i remember it "with the add button"\04:28
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thr1ce!info totem-xine04:28
ubotutotem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB04:28
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thr1ceneat :)04:29
Dr_Willishosler,  ive heard steam works with Cedega04:29
phziHey everyone04:29
hoslerDr_Willis, is Cedega free?04:29
Dr_Willishosler,  nope. :P04:29
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hoslerdarn04:29
Velcanit's not?04:30
adwaitnope04:30
Dr_Williswinex was renamed to cedega. $5  mo.04:30
johnnybezakhosler: i think you can build the cvs version of it can't you>?04:30
Dr_Willis$5 a mo.04:30
phziyou can get it free04:30
thr1cegood luck building source04:30
Dr_Willisya can try the cvs if ya want..  i guess.. but for the cost of a big mac and fries... :P04:30
phziyou just can't get pre-compiled04:30
naliothhosler: cedega-cvs is free04:30
gotonpoi have a terribly stupid question.. how do i quit from reading a man file? :P04:30
phziI have an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro running the fglrx drivers installed right now. I got a GeForce 6200 so I could run Dual Monitors a little more effectively under linux04:30
thr1cepress q04:30
naliothgotonpo: Q04:30
phziany suggestions for preperation for install?04:31
Dr_Willisim not sure if the cedega-cvs has the same copy-progection/directX features however.04:31
gotonpobeautiful thanks04:31
snareplrHello04:31
naliothphzi: music04:31
naliothphzi: relax04:31
Velcanyea ... but isnt it 5$ one month ... and keep paying only if you want access to point2play04:31
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phzilol, thanks nalioth04:31
phziI mean, for prepairing my system :P04:31
thr1cepreparations?!  it'll only take 20 mins or so04:31
thr1ceback stuff up?04:31
stetyRbye04:31
phziif I put the card in, X won't work04:31
thr1cethat would suck to have an "oops"04:31
Dr_WillisVelcan,  no. :P $5 a mo (3 mo min at the start) P2P is included.. BUT if you stop paying you just get no more updates.04:31
Velcanit's been a while since i used it so i dont remmber honestly04:32
Velcanah04:32
Velcanokay04:32
phziis there a command line ubuntu tool for auto config?04:32
harris|uCan someone help me with this error (configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH) when I'm trying to compile pidentd04:32
snareplris mplayer available for Ubuntu?04:32
phzibefore I install the proper NV drivers?04:32
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Velcanlol i wonder if they're still charging my card o_O04:32
naliothharris|u: install 'build-essential"04:32
thr1cephzi, most stuff will be included; nvidia drivers are done yourself through apt, yes04:32
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naliothharris|u: use synaptic04:32
harris|uokay, thanks again nalioth04:32
tiglionabbit!newusers04:32
ubotufrom memory, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:32
phzithr1ce: I am using linux right now04:33
phziwhen I boot with the NV card, is there a ubuntu command line too or autoconfiguring X?04:33
Velcani would pay 5$ mo. to get my wireless card working :()04:33
thr1cexorgconfig?04:33
tiglionabbitphzi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:33
thr1ceit'll start you in X though by default with gdm04:33
naliothphzi: did you install ubuntu with the nvidia card in the machine?04:33
phzinalioth: no04:33
phziI have an ATI card04:34
Dr_Willislol04:34
phzithank you tiglionabbit04:34
phzithats what I was looking for04:34
naliothphzi: then what tiglionabbit said04:34
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naliothbrb04:35
phzik, time to reboot and give it a try04:36
phzithanks, and I'll let you guys know how it goes04:37
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VelcanSo. has anyone in here played WoW via cedega? If so how well does it work?04:37
VelcanIf I could get my WoW fix on I could put my windoze where it belongs ... where's the bathroom?04:37
hoslerif I get cedega, should I uninstall wine, winetools, and winex3?04:38
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thr1cewtf!  I can't find win32codecs04:38
Velcaneverything should be built into cedega if i remmber right04:38
hosleri mean will cedega be better than those and I wont need them anymore?04:38
thr1ceand have updated my repositories properly04:38
Aerebusi'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error:04:38
Aerebuschecking for gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0... Package gtkmm-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkmm-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtkmm-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a no04:38
Aerebusnstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.04:38
Aerebuscan someone tell me what i'm doing wrong plz?04:39
Velcanpretty sure cedega is supposed to be all in one04:39
VelcanLooks like I might jsut have to break down and buy a different wifi card and give my dog a new chew toy. :(04:40
adwaitAerebus: well do u hv the package/file anywhere?04:40
tiglionabbitthr1ce: it's in hoary extras04:41
thenostradamusdoes anyone here use shorewall?04:41
thr1cedeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:41
tiglionabbit!backports04:41
ubotuI heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/04:41
thr1cethat's not findint it04:41
tiglionabbitthr1ce: it's called w32codecs04:42
Aerebusadwait, do u mean gtkmm?04:42
IceDC571is anyone here using kde? lol04:42
tiglionabbitIceDC571: I've got it installed, yeah04:42
IceDC571tiglionabbit, how do you like it?04:42
LinuxJonesIceDC571, you can join #kubuntu04:42
tiglionabbituh, it's pretty, but I think gnome is more suited to ubuntu's features04:42
IceDC571i'm thinking about trying fluxbox04:43
root_alguien que hable espaol?04:43
Aerebusadwait, i do a locate gtkmm and nothing shows up04:43
adwaitAerebus: yes04:43
seth_kroot_: #ubuntu-es04:43
Velcanif you gonna try flux you chould check out damnsmalllinux04:43
Velcanit's pretty cool04:43
root_ok muchas gracias04:43
adwaitAerebus: Aerebus thn maybe u dont hv tht file.......i tired apt-get can't get it there so i guess u gotta search fora deb04:44
adwaitAerebus: i guess this is it: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=gtkmm&sourceid=mozilla-search04:44
Aerebusi looked in synaptic and it says i have libgtkmm-2.4-1 and libgtkmm-2.4-dev installed...04:45
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biscuitAnyone know anything about PPP here>04:46
IceDC571well i dont know, dont i have to configure everything just to make fluxbox a decent desktop?04:46
biscuitIce...Long time no see04:46
Discipulusbiscuit, I do, what's the problem?04:46
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IceDC571biscuit, MrBiscuit?04:46
Jhairdoes ubuntu bugzilla work at the moment? Registration doesn't seem to work (mail with password was sent to me but I get " The username or password you entered is not valid.")04:46
biscuitDiscipulus, Well i want to use KDE, but for some reason i can only connect to the internet throughthe Modem Lights thingey on GNOME04:47
adwaitAerebus: hmm..........no idea buddy.....04:47
biscuitYes its me04:47
JhairRequesting a new password doesn't work neither: the promised mail with the new password is not sent.04:47
IceDC571biscuit, which window managers do you have installed?04:47
biscuit*Forced to use non free driver X-(04:47
biscuitWIndow managers?04:47
biscuit*noob04:47
IceDC571biscuit, lol... i didnt know you were that much of a newb04:48
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biscuitLike Gnome? Or what04:48
Discipulusbiscuit, don't use the GUI, I've had considerable problems with it04:48
IceDC571biscuit, i think i asked you the same question yesterday04:48
Discipulusbiscuit, pppconfig to set it up04:48
biscuitI know04:48
biscuitI did04:48
Discipulusbiscuit, pon <provider> to turn it on04:48
Discipulusbiscuit, and poff to turn it off04:48
biscuitOk..04:48
Discipulusbiscuit, all command-line programs04:48
ogais anybody interested in seeing if they can help me with an interesting networking problem... not specifcally related to ubuntu?04:48
DiscipulusAnything else before I go off to bed?04:49
biscuitLinuxant making you pay for their drivers RUBBISH!04:49
biscuitNot really04:49
ogafair enough04:49
Discipulusbiscuit, that answer your question?04:49
biscuitYa04:49
IceDC571anything that charges you isnt good04:49
biscuitIll try that04:49
biscuitI know04:49
biscuitI found a beta04:49
biscuitBut it won't setup rite04:49
biscuitYou think you can help Ice?04:49
Discipulusalright, good night all04:49
IceDC571biscuit, whats the problem?04:49
biscuitHold on lemme get the error again04:50
biscuitLol04:50
LinuxJonesogra, depends on what you need us to do04:50
ogaheres the deal: i scored a "non-working sample" belkin router model "f5d7230" which is supposedly the wireless router from belkin04:50
ogait works as a router with the ethernet ports04:50
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ogabut the firmware (or possibly harware as well) does not make any mention of WLAN04:51
ogai want to know if there is any way i can tell if this is actually a wirless routher04:51
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ogaor just a normal one wacked in the wrong case04:51
LinuxJonesogra, is there an antenna on it :)04:52
ogayep04:52
VelcanTrying to get my D-Link DWL-G630 WiFi card to work after a fresh install. What's weird is that the device actually shows up in the device manager and even goes aways and comes back if I am to reseat the device. But no matter what I seem to do I get no lights indicating that the card has any power, and the device does not show up in my network-admin tool. -- Has anyone seen this or something like this before and able to help me?04:52
biscuitUmm thats alot of stuff04:52
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ogait's just wierd04:52
ogano mention of WLAN at config screen04:52
ogabut there is an antenna04:52
oga& model matches wirless as per the outside of the case04:52
ogabut04:53
biscuitBrb Ice04:53
ogait says "non-working sample"04:53
ogaand if nothing works it would make sense04:53
ogabut i'm using it now to chat 2 you guys04:53
Dr_Willislol04:53
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ogai'm gonna try throwing on some german firmware.... who knows?04:55
cafuegoVelcan: More likely than not you need ndiswrapper with windows drivers (or perhaps acx_100 with windows binary firmware) before that card will do anything.04:55
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biscuitHmm04:56
Velcanthats just were in do ndiswrapper -i pathto(inf)file right?04:56
biscuitNow the pon and poff thing works... tricky tricky04:56
LinuxJonesogra, have you been here Linux is a supported operating system >> http://search.belkin.com/cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFindEN.cfg&AND_ON=N&MCAT%5B2%5D=X&AGE_WGT=0&EN=X&NO_DL=X&QUERY=F5D7230-4*&LL=EN04:56
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VelcanI'll try that04:56
ogathanx jones04:56
cafuegoThat first, then ndiswrapper -m, then 'updat-modules' , then 'modprobe ndiswrapper'04:56
VelcanI just figured since it was showing the the dev man that the drivers where installed04:56
Velcanahh04:56
Dr_Willispon, poff? no porn?04:57
Velcanokay04:57
cafuegoVelcan: keep in mind it will supportonly a subset of the 'iwconfig' options.04:57
paxHi everyone, I just installed and found either a bug or a very serious issue with Ubuntu04:57
Dr_Willis0_o04:57
Velcankk. ima go try that quick04:57
cafuegopax: Did you file a bug?04:57
TokenBadfinally someone fixed my cedega problem!!!04:57
TokenBadnow can install gams04:57
paxtype: last -d   and check if you see some IP from russia showing every time you boot your Ubuntu04:57
TokenBadgames eve04:57
TokenBadfinally04:57
paxcafuego: not yet, this is freaking me out04:58
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cafuegopax: 194.135.4.8 ?04:58
paxevery time you boot/login, this IP 194.135.4.8 shows up via last -d  another user confirmed it04:58
paxcafuego: yes.04:58
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cafuegopax: Seems to only happen on X logins; probably just a random pointer getting logged to utmp.04:59
paxall users of Ubuntu/Kubuntu are owned until this gets cleared!04:59
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paxcafuego: you have the same thing right?04:59
cafuegopax: No, russians aren't accessing your machine.04:59
adwaithehe05:00
cafuegopax: Login at the console, see how it logs 0.0.0.0 then?05:00
paxpax@debuntu:~$ last -d05:00
paxpax      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 22:03   still logged in05:00
paxpax      :0           0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 22:03 - 22:03  (00:00)05:00
paxreboot   system boot  0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 21:57          (00:40)05:00
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delltonyhi is there any chance i could get someone with advanced knowledge to help me get mplayer to have libmp3lame enabled? I have installed libmp3lame i have the .so file in the /usr/lib dir so i'm guessing its installed. I then took and downloaded the mplayer source and tried to compile it but after compilation i stll get mplayer is not compiled with libmp3lame support. help would be appreciated. thankks05:00
harris|uCan someone help with firestarter? It says 'failed to start the firewall' because the device eth0 is not ready although it's obviously ready since I'm connected to the internet.05:01
digitalfoxhrm. anyone know how to set the default terminal dimensions in gnome-terminal?05:01
Velcano_O ndiswrapper isnt installed in ubuntu by default?05:01
cafuegopax: It's a bug in gdm I expect.05:01
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cafuegoBreezy logs lots of different other IPs.05:01
paxcafuego: you didnt answer me, do you have the same issue?05:01
paxcafuego: I installed and reinstalled twice to confim this05:02
cafuegopax: Mine is also logging a random uninitialised pointer to wtmp, yes.05:02
cafuegopax: it's a bug, not a security hole.05:02
GigaClonhey quick problem here05:02
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paxcafuego: I will file bugzilla, you do the same please.05:02
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sean_anybody know why my comp just shuts down randomly05:02
sean_with ubuntu05:03
cafuegoVelcan: Why would Ubuntu install windows drivers by default?05:03
sean_this never happend05:03
nickrudcafuego do you, offhand, know the bug report?05:03
adwaitsean_ it doesnt like u/ubuntu05:03
sean_now i cant leave my comp alone, it always turns off05:03
IceDC571biscuit, im back05:03
cafuegonickrud: no idea.05:03
adwaitsean_: system overheating?05:03
sean_thats what i thought05:03
cafuegosean_: Did you check the log files after booting back up?05:03
sean_oh well05:03
nickrudso I don't; then I guess it'll be something interesting to look up :)05:03
rendianyone know what's the best player for mp3 ?05:03
sean_i thought it might have been something common, no i havent05:04
adwaitrendi: rhythmbox, xmms, beep-media-player05:04
adwaittake ur pck05:04
adwait*pick05:04
cafuegonickrud: I believe this bug was filed in debian over 6 months ago.05:04
D1depends on what you're looking for: muine, bmp, rhythmbox05:04
nickrudcafuego I'm not doubting you, just looking for a shortcut05:04
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rendii mean the ui like winamp05:04
D1try beep-media-player05:04
cafuegoI'll check the gdm sources05:05
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siimohi when i try changing themes in gnome settings, no matter what theme i click on it doesnt change anything05:05
siimonothing happens05:05
siimocan someone help?05:05
nickruddpm05:05
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nickrudhuh, bad finger placement ;)05:06
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snareplrhello all.... Is an mplayer .deb available for Ubuntu ??05:06
adwaitsnareplr: apt-get install mplayer05:06
D1should be.05:06
TraceHello, althouth i ask this question 3 times here, i really want to fix it, ask again.05:06
adwaitor do u specifically wnat a deb?05:06
snareplradwait; no dice...05:06
GigaCloni was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message05:06
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Tracemy sound card is sis7012 integreated, driver is snd_intel8x005:07
GigaClonany help05:07
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Traceit seems be driven sucessfully, TeamSpeak telles me it is be driven. but i can't here anysound05:08
Tracei tried alsamixer to check.05:08
IceDC571wow.. is there any guide i can follow to configure fluxbox?05:08
cafuegoYeah, bug is in 'sessreg'05:09
TracePcm channel and master channel is just 0, i can't change the value of it? why?05:09
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Velcanshould i have to reboot after that?05:09
cafuegoShit05:09
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ed1tdamn i just found out that i get waaay more download speed on wireless on ubuntu then xp05:11
davidandkazHI guys05:11
ed1t600 kbps on wireless05:11
ed1ti would get like 300 in xp05:11
davidandkazHey how do i access my other harddrives?05:11
davidandkazlike my mp3's05:11
concept10Anyone have knowledge of the GNOME networkmanager?05:12
naliothdavidandkaz: please be more specific05:12
D1Trace, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27583&highlight=sis701205:12
D1try looking at that05:12
Aerebusi'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/465 can someone help me fix this? i'm guessing it's saying i need gtkmm but when i do "locate gtkmm" nothings comes up, however in ubuntu under the synaptic package manager it says its installed >.<05:12
D1might be something of interest since its about your card.05:12
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naliothAerebus: you need gtkmm blah -dev libs05:12
naliothAerebus: the -dev is what it's looking for05:13
davidandkazWell I partitioned this hard drive into two operating systems, I can only read my cd rom and dvd player05:13
biscuitdavidandkaz: What format are you other hds formated in05:13
davidandkazoh, umm05:13
davidandkaznot sure05:13
VelcanI did all that, rebooted and still no light or dev showing in network-admin :(05:13
rendii finished instaled beep media player but i can't play song with that, but i can play song with music player any help me ?05:13
biscuitFAT32, NTFS, etc etc05:13
davidandkazdon't know05:13
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naliothdavidandkaz: do you run windows on the same box?05:14
davidandkazyes05:14
ed1tnalioth, do you know if i can backup the linux paritition with ghost?05:14
davidandkaz:D05:14
nalioths_dogdavidandkaz: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically05:14
rendiany one help me pls05:14
biscuitWell if it's NTFS (probally if you have Win XPand a huge HD) then well your outta luck05:14
nalioths_dogrendi: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support05:14
rendiok05:15
Velcanyou can read ntfs fine (at least i have been able to) but writting to ntfs can be hectic05:15
rendibut it format mp3 ?05:15
HrdwrBoBer05:15
davidandkazHow do I run that?05:15
HrdwrBoByes you can read NTFS not a problem05:15
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biscuitTHE DOG!05:15
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Aerebusnalioth, would this be it?05:16
naliothdavidandkaz: when you get it d/l, open a terminal where the file is located and type "sudo -s", and then "sh winmac_fstab"05:16
Aerebushttp://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libgtkmm-2.4-dev05:16
naliothdavidandkaz: then close the termial05:16
naliothAerebus: yes05:16
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IceDC571anyone here running fluxbox?05:17
biscuitnalioths_dog: Can you still access a Windoes NTFS part on linux05:17
Aerebusnalioth, how do i install a .deb file?05:17
naliothbiscuit: yes, read-only05:17
naliothAerebus: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"05:18
naliothAerebus: you should be able to install that using synaptic, tho05:18
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tenshui just installed ubuntu, my resolutions are stuck at 1024x768, how can i fix this?05:19
biscuitOh... with that fstab thingey?05:19
paxnalioth last -d in a termial and tell me if you can a see an IP you dont recognised at every boot/login05:19
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naliothpax: im sorry, i don't understand05:20
Velcancafuego: I did ndiswrapper -i /media/usbdisk/net5211.inf; ndiswrapper -m; update-modules; modprobe ndiswrapper -- Is there anything else I need to do after that?05:20
paxnalioth type this in a terminal: last -d05:20
cafuegonalioth: There's a bug in gdm or 'sessreg' which logs a random pointer, which is translated to an IP by 'last'.05:20
naliothubotu tell tenshu about resolutions05:20
paxnalioth do you see an IP that is not yours there?05:20
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VelcanI have also rebooted but still no light or dev showing in network-admin05:21
tenshunalioth, what?05:21
naliothi see no strangers in my last -d05:21
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naliothubotu tell tenshu about resolution05:21
SDFH_Linuxtrying out hoary live cd my wireless network card is suppose to work but it doesnt why?05:21
Strife[lab] has anyone tried using gnomad2?05:22
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tenshuthanks05:22
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cafuegoglobal vars left, right and center05:22
SDFH_Linuxand my wireless card is supported05:23
GigaCloni was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message05:23
SDFH_Linuxwhy it doesnt work05:23
concept10Anyone have any knowledge of this ?  http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/index.html05:23
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naliothGigaClon: you need liblua-dev or something like that05:23
Strifeactually, better yet... how do you edit your library search path (so when you run a program, it knows where to find a lib)?05:23
nickruddamn, can someone point me at something about the syntax that ubotu understands?05:23
FlannelKingpax, I too have 194.135.4.8, as still logged in, I'm not worried about it05:23
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GigaClonI installed that too still didn't work05:24
naliothnickrud: ask ubotu !help05:24
SDFH_Linuxanyone?05:24
Aerebusnalioth, i installed both libgtkmm-2.4-1_2.4.10-1_i386.deb and libgtkmm-2.4-dev_2.4.10-1_i386.deb manually thru the terminal and it is still giving me the same error05:25
nickrudthanks, nalioth05:25
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Scroopyhow do i kill a non repsonsive program?05:26
naliothAerebus: search using synaptic for 'gtkmm'05:26
HrdwrBoBclick the X05:26
Scroopyno that dint work lol05:27
[koji] !help05:27
HrdwrBoBit'll come up with a force quit option05:27
naliothScroopy: applicaions > run app > xkill05:27
nickrudScroopy that's a loaded question, it depends on how it's called05:27
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Strifedoes anyone know why libnjb0 doesn't actually work?05:27
Scroopywell my AMSN has locked up05:27
Scroopyther eis no XKILL under run aopplication05:28
GigaClonnalioth: I still get this error,./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: liblua.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:28
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naliothScroopy: you have to type it in05:28
naliothGigaClon: i'm not sure05:28
PPC_Guyanyone have BitchX installed with Warty?05:28
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Scroopyaaa thanks haps05:28
Scroopyheaps05:28
Scroopyall fixed no0w05:28
Scroopy;) cheers05:28
IceDC571wheres the list of window managers on that ubuntu site?05:29
Aerebusnalioth, ok i got it up only 2 things are installed the 2 i just mentioned05:29
GigaCloncompiling lua from source didn't help either05:29
ed1tnalioth,  i just installed this package cl-md5 from synaptic, but i dunno how to open it now05:29
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naliothAerebus: then i'm stumped05:29
naliothed1t: why did you install it? what's it for?05:29
paxFlannelKing: thank you for comfirming this bug in Ubuntu. I hope the devs will address this issue promptly.05:29
naliothIceDC571: packages.ubuntu.com05:29
ed1tfor checking md5 sums05:29
ed1tchecksum*05:29
FlannelKinged1t, check the 'installed files' on the package05:30
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naliothed1t: then at a terminal type "md5sum <whatever you want to md5 fingerprint>"05:30
mgalvinis anyone else in new york getting TERRIBLE network connection speeds to ubuntus server in the uk?05:30
IceDC571nalioth, um okk..05:30
ed1tooo thx05:31
HaroldJohnsonnaliothHey there, nalioth.05:33
Aerebusnalioth i dont suppose u could compile it for me? lol05:33
naliothAerebus: if i did, you wouldnt be able to use it. i run PPC05:34
naliothHaroldJohnson: howzit goin?05:34
Aerebuso05:34
Aerebuswell05:34
Aerebusbummer05:34
HaroldJohnsonI've just installed madwifi and I'm ready to use my wireless card.05:34
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HaroldJohnsonWhat do I need to do to test my wifi connection?05:35
HaroldJohnsonnaliothIt's going fine; yourself?05:35
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naliothAerebus: you can compile it for yourself05:36
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HaroldJohnsonnaliothGet some rest, nalioth.05:37
Strifehey, so for some reason, it seems that java on ubuntu (and debian in particular) seems to like to not use Swing, but instead some crappy attempt at a gtk look and feel (at least on GNOME)... any idea how I can undo that?05:37
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HaroldJohnsonAnyone: How do I test a wireless card?  Plug it in and ping?  iwconfig?  iwlist scan/  dmesg?05:38
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GigaCloncan synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?05:38
seth_k!sources05:39
uboturumour has it, sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:39
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Aerebusnalioth what else could be the problem?05:39
HaroldJohnson!Wow05:39
ubotuHaroldJohnson: Are you smoking crack?05:39
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HaroldJohnsonubotu, Hey, that's not nice?05:39
ubotuHaroldJohnson: I don't know, could you explain it?05:39
HaroldJohnsonubotu, What?05:39
ubotuHaroldJohnson: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:39
naliothAerebus: i have no clue what you are trying to do05:39
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seth_kdon't mess with the bot :P05:39
HaroldJohnsonubotu, Hey now@05:39
ubotuHaroldJohnson: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:39
HaroldJohnsonubotu, What the?05:40
ubotuHaroldJohnson: Bugger all, i dunno05:40
danielsguys, please leave the bot alone.05:40
naliothHaroldJohnson: you are speaking to a Robot05:40
HaroldJohnsonnaliothI know, I'm just kidding.05:40
Aerebusnalioth i'm trying to compile source for visualboy advance05:40
HaroldJohnsonnaliothThat's my first time playing with it.05:40
naliothHaroldJohnson: don't tease the bot, he doesnt like it05:40
Metshey guys, I'm having some install issues with 5.04.  I've burnt several copies of the image, tried different burning programs, downloaded different images from another mirror, tried different computers, etc., but I can't seem to get anything to read either the InstallCD or the LiveCD for Ubuntu.  Any ideas?05:40
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naliothHaroldJohnson: too many other folks have abused poor ol' ubotu05:41
LinuxJones!help05:41
naliothMets: you hardware alright?05:41
HaroldJohnsonnaliothYou probably get tired of seeing that.05:41
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HaroldJohnson!wireless05:41
ubotuhmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:41
MetsI think, I tried it on a new Dell, and old Acer, and a middle-aged Compaq, and nothing on any of them05:41
HaroldJohnsonnaliothBot is useful.05:41
MetsI've burnt and installed a ton of linux distros before, and I never had a problem05:42
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GigaCloncan synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?05:42
paul_giga yes05:42
juanpahi, im having troubles with cd burning, i already have k3b installed but it says that i dont have cdrao, and sinaptyc doesnt find it, any help??05:42
nickrudGigaClon now without some wore on your part05:42
Jimbobpaul_: It can't install them, can it?05:43
nickruds/wore/work :)05:43
paul_thats what synaptic is for, deb packages05:43
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D1does anyone know of a good gtk2 ftp client (not gftp)?05:43
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GigaClonlink to how to do it?05:43
nickrudGigaClon pointing at man pages is frowned on here, but take a look at man dpkg-scanpackages05:44
tiglionabbitD1: nautilus05:44
D1yeah, I just thought of that. but does it do SFTP?05:44
GigaClonI downloaded a game in .deb format from freshmeat05:44
tiglionabbitD1: dunno, try it05:45
nickrudGigaClon then, to get just that deb installed, dpkg -i <game.deb> in a terminal05:45
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nickrudthe package will show up in synaptic, after doing that, as a local package.05:46
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trinidadHelp with KDE 3.4 and translucency window features: Composite extension not found You MUST us XOrg> 6.8 for traslucency and shadows to work05:47
GigaClon!paste05:47
ubotuhmm... paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""05:47
cafuegopax: There you go, bug is filed.05:47
trinidadcan I undo this if it goes sour?05:48
paxcafuego: link, I filed one already no response so far.05:48
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cafuegopax: I filed one via 'reportbug'05:48
paxcafuego: good man.05:49
cafuegoand the list just echoed it back05:49
trinidadis there a fix for this in ubuntu?05:49
trunghow make windows transparent?05:49
trinidadyes05:49
GigaClonnickrud: http://pastebin.com/31032505:49
cafuegotrinidad: Install libxdamage105:49
trinidadim using baghira theme and would like to make all windows transparent05:49
trinidadapt-get?05:49
cafuegotrinidad: And enable the omposite etension. Note it -will_ make X slow and crash.05:49
trinidadnm05:50
trinidadother suggestions?05:50
tiglionabbit!apt05:50
ubotu[apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/05:50
cafuegotrinidad: Check the README file for xcompmgr05:50
trungtrinidad, where is badgira theme?05:50
nickrudGigaClon my first guess, is you are invoking dpkg in the wrong directory05:51
trinidadapt-repository05:51
trunggnome? kde?05:51
GigaClonit in the same dir as the deb file05:51
trunghow make windows transparent?05:52
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nickrudGigaClon then, assuming I'm in the same dir as your deb, I'd do dpkg -i path<tab> , and if that doesn't work ...05:52
nickrudGigaClon don't forget sudo05:53
ZeXr0do you know how many floopy is the woody installer ?05:53
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GigaClonno dice05:53
nickrudZeXr0 205:53
ZeXr0do you know where I can get it ?05:54
nickrudZeXr0 I would assume that debian.org has links, I last looked a couple years ago :)05:54
trung!transparent05:55
ubotutrung: Wish i knew05:55
ZeXr0well I'm looking and all I find is like 20 floppy for the woody installer05:55
trung!transparents05:55
ubotutrung: Bugger all, i dunno05:55
trung!trans05:55
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, trung05:55
gotonpoanyone know how to make desktop icons display their text to the right/left instead of underneath?05:55
gotonpoi can do it in the file browser but not in the desktop.05:55
GigaClonnickrud: http://pastebin.com/31032505:55
GigaClonoops05:55
GigaClonsudo dpkg -i ./pathological_1.1.2_i386.deb05:56
GigaClonthat was the line05:56
seth_k!transparency05:56
ubotuseth_k: Are you smoking crack?05:56
seth_ktrung: you use xcompmgr05:56
harris|u!help05:56
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nickrudGigaClon I cannot replicate your error, I'm currently on dialup and cannot play with your deb ;<05:56
valtarichey i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing and i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem i am having..05:57
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seth_ktrung: and then after it's running, use transset05:57
seth_kvaltaric: we're all here, just ask :)05:57
harris|uvaltaric, just ask :p05:57
valtaricok i'm trying to figure out how to install programs once i d/l them but i can't get it to work..05:57
trungsearcher`, "xcompmgr"05:57
trungseth_k, xcompmgr05:57
GigaClonoops my bad, I mean that was the correct line05:58
trungseth_k, "command not found"05:58
seth_ktrung: you most likely need to install it, through synaptic05:58
adwaittrung: sudo apt-get install xcompmgr05:58
tiglionabbit!info xcompmgr05:58
ubotuxcompmgr: (X composition manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+cvs.20041109-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB05:58
valtariccan anyone give me a walkthrough on how to install a .rpm file?05:59
tiglionabbitvaltaric: you probably don't want to install an rpm file06:00
trung!universe06:00
ubotuask me about !repositories06:00
valtaricon well i d/l a wineX program that is a .rpm and i was wondering how to install it.06:00
tiglionabbitvaltaric: this is ubuntu now, so we're in .deb land.  Is there anywhere you can find a .deb of what you want instead, or find a repository for it?06:00
trung!repositories06:00
ubotuI guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:00
adwaitwhats a composite extention?06:00
tiglionabbitvaltaric: that is cedega06:01
valtaricyup.06:01
nickrudtell trung about components06:01
nickrudall the dumb stuff06:01
concept10Anyone know how to have the GNOME panel remember locations of widgets when rebooting, etc06:01
tiglionabbitvaltaric: if you must use that particular rpm, you can convert it to a deb with alien I believe.  But there are other ways of getting cedega06:01
adwaitvaltaric: u can convert rpm to deb using alien if u cant fine a deb06:01
nickrudubotu tell trung about components06:01
tiglionabbitconcept10: it should do that automatically06:01
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concept10tiglionabbit, it doesnt06:02
tiglionabbitconcept10: does for me...06:02
GigaClonvaltaric: rpm is alien -d /path/to/rpm06:02
adwaitcan someone tell me? whats a composite extention?06:02
Amaranthyay, i go home tomorrow night!06:02
GigaClonthat gets you a deb06:02
valtaricdo you know of a website where i can find a cedega.deb file?06:02
tiglionabbitvaltaric: transgaming.com06:02
nalioth_zZzAmaranth: and i'm sure you'll be happy06:02
tiglionabbitbut it costs you, it's a subscription thing...  =[06:02
valtaricok and once i get it how would i go about installing it?06:03
tiglionabbitdpkg --install thecedegafile.deb06:03
concept10tiglionabbit, for example.. the panel crashed a min ago and all the icons got switched around06:03
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tiglionabbitconcept10: perhaps if you had a normal shutdown, rather than crashing it, it would be happier06:03
Amaranthnalioth_zZz: hehe06:03
tiglionabbitconcept10: I mean a normal logout...06:04
concept10tiglionabbit,  nevermind... you dont understand06:04
tiglionabbitk fine, dunno what your prob is06:04
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spanglesontoastcan I have a link to the pages for sorting out apt to the latest repos06:04
spanglesontoast?06:04
adwaitvaltaric: dpkg -i <whtever.deb>06:04
spanglesontoastoh06:05
spanglesontoastfound it06:05
spanglesontoastdw06:05
adwait!repositories06:05
tiglionabbit!repositories06:05
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:05
spanglesontoastlol06:05
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: here's the officially supported repos06:05
tiglionabbit!sources06:05
ubotusources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:05
spanglesontoastis there a good podcasting tool?06:05
nickrudand the other half06:05
nickrud!components06:05
ubotuwell, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view06:05
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spanglesontoastrite I thought it was compacted into the www.ubuntuguide.org06:06
nickrudsections, per debian06:06
adwait1ubuntuguide06:06
nickrudsort of :)06:06
adwait1ubuntuguide06:06
spanglesontoast?06:07
tiglionabbitdon't use ubuntuguide06:07
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nalioth_zZzspanglesontoast: dont use ubuntuguide06:07
adwait!ubuntuguide06:07
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines06:07
tiglionabbit!ubuntuguide06:07
tiglionabbitdah06:07
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tiglionabbit!newusers06:07
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ubotunewusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers06:07
nalioth_zZz!ubguide06:07
ubotusomebody said ubguide was Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)06:07
tiglionabbitwe are working on a new new users guide.  Read it instead06:07
nickrudand the only real reason, is that newbies may not understand the steps.06:07
nalioth_zZzspanglesontoast: the u'guide will lead you into evil06:07
spanglesontoastok06:08
tiglionabbitI wrote the NewUbuntuUsers guide for now, while the rest of us pull together an official guide to it all06:08
spanglesontoastgod I haven't used ubuntu for ages06:08
spanglesontoastwhere the file i need to dump that stuff into?06:08
mwpI'm wondering if someone can help me set my trip_points in ACPI. Everytime I try to echo > to it I get permission denied.06:08
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: which file?  /etc/apt/sources.list?06:08
tiglionabbit!repositories06:08
uboturepositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:09
nalioth_zZzspanglesontoast: /etc/apt/sources.list06:09
bigfoot1Hello all: Is there a way to fix the memory leak of Firefox?06:09
spanglesontoastah06:09
spanglesontoastty06:09
nickrudHopefully, then next iteration of the ubuntu guide will drop the bad stuff (like the repositories) and get some documentation06:09
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tiglionabbitbigfoot1: compile a daily build?  dunno06:09
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D1anyone know of a good mp3 tagger/renamer for ubuntu/linux?06:09
nickrudeasytag06:09
nalioth_zZznickrud: the next iteration is here:06:10
nalioth_zZz!newuser06:10
ubotunalioth_zZz: Bugger all, i dunno06:10
nalioth_zZz!newusers06:10
ubotuit has been said that newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers06:10
D1thanks.06:10
nickrudnalioth_zZz I breeze over gmane when I can, and I caught a bit about licensing for the ubuntu guide, so I have hopes06:10
spanglesontoaston that pastebin for the sources do I just remove everything that's in there now06:11
spanglesontoastor do i just paste at the bottom?06:11
mwpD1 ... I wrote one in python a long time ago. The id3 tags are just encoded into the mp3 as text at the end of the mp306:11
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nickrudI only do the wiki ;P06:11
nalioth_zZzspanglesontoast: you can back up your existing .list and just use the pasted one06:11
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nickrudor ubotu06:12
GigaClon!pygame06:12
ubotuGigaClon: Are you smoking crack?06:12
spanglesontoastah ok06:12
D1audio tag tool looks good but I dont think its .deb06:12
GigaClonit seem my deb package requires pygame to work, but pygame isn't a package in the system06:12
tiglionabbit!info easytag06:12
ubotueasytag: (viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.99.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 667 kB, Installed size: 2088 kB06:13
tiglionabbitD1: get it from apt06:13
mwpD1: apt-cache search ID306:13
D1ok06:13
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tiglionabbit!info ID306:13
ubotuid3: (An ID3 Tag Editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 64 kB06:13
spanglesontoast!python06:14
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, spanglesontoast06:14
siimois there any way to limit a ubuntu computer connecteed to my router to 256kbps downstream max?06:14
spanglesontoast!spangles06:14
ubotuspanglesontoast: I don't know06:14
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: don't expect ubotu to know everything, just topics we've put in it06:14
cafuegosiimo: Yes.06:14
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siimoi want to game on the other computer and i dont want my brother leeching slowing me down06:14
cafuego!info python06:14
spanglesontoastlol06:14
ubotupython: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)), section python, is standard. Version: 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 532 kB06:14
siimocafuego, how06:14
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tiglionabbitsiimo: are there options on your router?06:15
jtan325what does ubuntu use instead of .xsession?06:15
tiglionabbitjtan325: instead of?06:15
spanglesontoastwhat's the best podcasting tool?06:15
jtan325is that what gdm uses?06:16
siimotiglionabbit, theres QoS but only upstream06:16
jtan325.xsession?06:16
tiglionabbitjtan325: ubuntu does use .xsession06:16
jtan325hmmm06:16
D1oooo, its called tagtool06:16
siimotiglionabbit, is there a way by installing a program on that PC itself06:16
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cafuegosiimo: First off, try 'trickle'. if that won't do, give 'shaper' a try.06:16
tiglionabbitsiimo: I don't know06:16
siimolike netlimiter on windows06:16
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jtan325tiglionabbit, do i have to do anything special06:16
jtan325to make .xsession load06:16
thr1cedoes anyone have streaming trailers (say .mov's) working by chance?06:17
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jtan325i.e. i put a simple line "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession06:17
jtan325and regardless of which WM i use, it doesn't load06:17
spanglesontoast!podcasting06:17
ubotuspanglesontoast: I don't know, could you explain it?06:17
siimocafuego, thanks ill try06:17
jtan325or, at least mozilla-firefox doesn't run06:17
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adwaitthr1ce: i hv streaming vids workin, not sure if they are .mov, try getting the media connector extention for firefox06:17
biscuitHi, im having troubles with installing Wine06:18
biscuitCan anyone help06:18
adwaittroubles like......?06:18
tiglionabbitjtan325: well, there's system -> preferences -> sessions, Startup Items tab06:18
jtan325but isn't that only for gnome06:18
tiglionabbitjtan325: yep06:18
biscuitIt goes on and on for like hours with all this stuff in the terminal, and then says No rule to make Target06:18
jtan325so gdm doesn't actually use .xsession?06:18
ed1twhere can i find .bashrc to add alias?06:18
jtan325or does it?06:18
jtan325ed1t, it'll be in your hom directory06:19
biscuitmake[2] : *** No rule to make target `../../dlls/ddraw/tests/ddraw_test.exe.so', needed by `ddraw_test.exe.so'.  Stop.06:19
tiglionabbitjtan325: I don't know06:19
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ed1tjtan325, so type pico /home/.bashrc?06:20
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jtan325ed1t, no06:20
jtan325pico /home/(your username)/.bashrc06:20
nickrudbiscuit is there any particular reason you're compiling wine?06:20
ed1tk06:20
rekaed1t: ~/,bashrc06:20
biscuitTo run Dreamweaver on Linux06:20
tiglionabbitreka: with a .06:20
FlannelKingWhy would you want to use dreamweaver?06:20
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biscuitAnd MX Flash06:20
mwpWell I figured it out. For some reason I couldn't sudo and echo -n "" > trip_points. When I sudo su - root it works06:21
biscuitAnd there are other things too06:21
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tiglionabbitbiscuit: if I were you, I would check out some of ubuntu's html editing things06:21
jtan325so does anyone know if ubuntu uses the .xsession or not?06:21
tiglionabbithttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant06:21
thr1ceadwait, not bad...no sound though06:21
cafuegojtan325: If you use gdm, then yes.06:21
tiglionabbitjtan325: you're right, I'm pretty sure it doesn't06:21
FlannelKingThat wont help with the flash though, but yeah, dreamweaver has better alternatives06:21
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=== nickrud has only had one reason for wine, it never worked ;)
jtan325cafuego, then if i put "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession, it should load right?06:22
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jtan325and i definitely use gdm06:22
jtan325i read somewhere that gdm switched to some other scheme06:22
jtan325and i am trying to figure out what that is06:22
tiglionabbittried "man gdm" ?06:22
cafuegojtan325: it uses .xsession. Just check if the session type upon login is set to GNoome or not06:22
cafuegoWindows users want crap performance, an ugly UI and buggy software.06:23
cafuegoIf they didn't want that, they'd use something else.06:23
spanglesontoastor they just want to play games06:24
spanglesontoast:P06:24
spanglesontoastcedega sucks for ati06:24
nickrudno, the want gnome, they just don't know it yet :)06:24
jtan325cafuego, i am trying to use a different window manager06:24
jtan325or else it'd be easy06:24
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thr1cedamnit, streaming seems impossible06:25
ed1thow do i get those monitors on my desktop? to show like RAM usage and stuff06:25
thr1cegkrellm06:26
tiglionabbited1t: I don't know, but you can use applications -> system tools -> system monitor06:26
tiglionabbit!info gkrellm06:26
ubotugkrellm: (Multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 952 kB06:26
cafuegothr1ce: mplayer played a RM from the bbc just fine here, before.06:26
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nickruded1t there are various things for that, just don't use gdesklets06:26
tiglionabbitthr1ce: do you have w32codecs?06:26
thr1ceyes, but ubuntu requires you to install so many uneeded things for mplayer06:26
thr1ceyes, I do06:26
tiglionabbitand mozilla-mplayer ?06:26
thr1cei don't have mplayer installed06:27
thr1cei refuse06:27
ed1tnickrud, which one do you recommend?06:27
tiglionabbitthr1ce: okay, then get vlc-mozilla-plugin06:27
cafuegothr1ce: if you installed Ubuntu and didn't remove all that pythn shit, I hardly think you can complain about mplayer bloat.06:27
tiglionabbitthr1ce: or figure out how to make totem-xine do it06:27
nickrudgkrellm, if you aren't satisfied withe gnome applets06:27
thr1cexmms is a dep for example06:27
tiglionabbitdep of what?06:27
cafuego!depends mplayer06:27
thr1cemplayer06:27
tiglionabbitwell that doesn't matter, you can get beep-media-player anyway06:28
tiglionabbitI thought xmms was already part of ubuntu06:28
thr1ceno06:28
rekait's not06:28
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tiglionabbit!depends ubuntu-desktop06:29
adwait:p06:29
tiglionabbitoh shite06:29
cafuegoYes, it depends on the output libs (sound|video) and xmms06:29
ch_604O_O06:29
rekathr1ce: i agree, mplayer shouldn't be including xmms if that is the case.06:29
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cafuegoProbably for mp3 support06:29
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thr1ceno, their codecs pack covers pretty much everything06:29
ch_604ok i have a compile problem06:29
rekacafuego: doesn't the mplayer codec package have mp3 included?06:29
spanglesontoastImportError: No module named wx06:29
spanglesontoast?06:29
ch_604configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check06:29
cafuegoreka: No idea06:29
Sir-Tezwhat's the correct package name for the Microsoft TTF fonts?06:30
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cafuegoch_604: Did you install the conpiler properly? What are you compiling?06:30
tiglionabbit!newusers06:30
cafuegoSir-Tez: msttcorefonts06:30
tiglionabbitnoo, no ubotu!  =[06:30
IceDC571wow what a day.. Mandriva buys Lycoris in order to compete with leading linux distros and Microsoft buys some company for its own anti-virus solution06:30
rekatiglionabbit: you wore him out :)06:30
cafuegoi'll check teh bot06:30
ch_604cafuego: compiling bmp. started with ./configure and it game me that06:30
spanglesontoastwhat is ImportError: No module named wx06:30
spanglesontoast ?06:30
rekach_604: why compile?  just apt-get it06:31
IceDC571ch_604: you are compiling bmp?? hmm..06:31
ch_604it wont06:31
adwait!multiple_sounds06:31
tiglionabbitch_604: get build-essential if you must compile06:31
tiglionabbitadwait: the bot is dead06:31
thr1ce* ubotu has quit (Excess Flood)06:31
ch_604i do sudo apt-get install beep-media-player and it cant find tha pak06:31
cafuegotiglionabbit: You broke it!!!06:31
Sir-Tezcafuego, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate -- that's what I'm getting06:31
adwaitooh yeah.....i thought he would come back a lil while06:31
hondjeHello, #ubuntu. I'm getting an assload of errors about not being able to find various usb modules at boot during that modules dependancy checking thing06:31
tiglionabbitwhat you're looking for is this though, adwait: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206306:31
IceDC571ch_604: well the repositories have the latest version of bmp, i dont see why you should compile it06:31
adwaitthx tiglionabbit06:32
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hondjeAnyone else get that from the latest kernel upgrade?06:32
harris|uI'm trying to put something in my X-Chat folder, where can I find that folder? ;o06:32
rekach_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories06:32
thr1cewell, I am able to stream movies, but my sound doesn't work06:32
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virgulehellllllo ladies!06:32
thr1cesoooo06:32
cafuego!info msttcorefonts06:32
ch_604cause it wont find the package, and the link off the bmp site is dead06:32
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB06:32
IceDC571harris|u: try .xchat?06:32
thr1ce!depends mplayer-38606:32
tiglionabbitcafuego: bot is dead06:32
rekach_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo rather06:32
nickrudubotu tell Sir-Tez about components06:32
cafuegotiglionabbit: No, he's not.06:32
ch_604thx06:32
cafuegotiglionabbit: I just restarted 'im06:32
tiglionabbitoh oh, nm, guess it's back now06:32
tiglionabbitcool06:32
nickrudis the bot really dead?06:32
thr1ceyeah, run !depends mplayer-386 once06:33
tiglionabbitnickrud: not anymore.  cafuego here has performed a ressurection06:33
nickrudah, not06:33
cafuegoSir-Tez: Check that to have multiverse in your sources.list06:33
ed1ttiglionabbit, do you know any good thingies like gdisklets?06:33
cafuegoNothing like a good 'killall -9 blootbot'06:33
nickrudooh, so now I know the bones :)06:33
rekanickrud: you couldv'e done a /whois ubotu06:34
tiglionabbited1t: nope06:34
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tiglionabbit!info gdesklets06:34
ubotugdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB06:34
nickrudreka did that a while ago, but I do have some repect moment to monent :)06:34
harris|uIceDC571, in ~/?06:34
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kvidellI knew a man, Bojangles, and he'd dance for you... in worn out shoes...06:36
bojangleswhere did that Church of Foamy guy go who runs this website....and why does he want to promote everyone to commit suicide as you can see by pressing the play button at this url06:36
spanglesontoastpyxmms where can I grab it?06:36
bojangleshttp://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=9106:36
cafuegoFoamy is the antichrist, he does not worship me.06:37
kvidelllol06:37
kvidellbojangles: You've never watched IllWillPress have you?06:37
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kvidellIt's a cartoon series :-P06:37
kvidellI doubt he actually wants you to kill yourself.06:37
kvidelljust a cartoon06:37
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xlsMessengerdo i have to close the apps if i'm doing a apt-get upgrade?06:38
cafuegoxlsMessenger: nope06:38
ed1tdoes ubuntu support fluxbox?06:38
cafuegoed1t: yes06:38
kvidelled1t: yes.06:38
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cafuegoxlsMessenger: Just restart any aps that get upgraded when the upgrade is done.06:38
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cafuegofist, too06:39
xlsMessengercafuego, thanks06:39
ed1tis it in the ubuntu repositories?06:39
rekaxlsMessenger: are you using backports?06:39
cafuegoed1t: Why not check first, then ask?06:39
ed1tk06:39
ZeXr0I got woody netinstall but I don't know how I can netinstall it :s06:39
cafuegoZeXr0: #debian is there -->06:39
adwaited1t: it is thr06:39
adwaited1t: u can use apt-cache search <whatever> to search for any package :)06:40
ch_604reka: that page does not exist06:40
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ZeXr0well cafuego it's to install ubuntu06:40
ed1tooo thx adwait06:40
adwaitnp06:40
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rekach_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo06:40
newbiei found this strange binary file ##picat copying itself on some of my directories is it a virus06:40
nickrudZeXr0 are you trying to get from a floppy boot to ubuntu, by any chance?06:40
valtariccan anyone tell me how to install a debian program?06:41
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tiglionabbitvaltaric: dpkg --install theprogram.deb06:41
ZeXr0nickrud yeah nalioth_zZz told be how via debian woody install06:41
cafuegoZeXr0: Nevertheless a woody install is a #debian issue.06:41
ch_604reka: This page does not exist yet.06:41
nickrudvaltaric sure, I can, but, why ever would you want to?06:42
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cafuegoTHogh woody is old and upping it to Ubuntu will quite probably fail.06:42
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Speedy2Is this package gtk-qt-engine supposed to be in "universe" ? I have that enabled, did apt-get update but can't seem to find it06:42
PPC_Guyhey all, question.. Asked earlier but didn't get anything back.. Anyone have bitchx installed with warty?06:42
ZeXr0nalioth_zZz told me that itis possible via woody and not via sarge06:42
nickrudZeXr0 I've seen a few links that may help, but I've never tried. A second.06:42
Speedy2Ah found it06:43
Speedy2gtk2-engines-gtk-qt06:43
cafuegoZeXr0: I imagine you need to boot the cd, install, edit the sources.list file06:43
ed1twhy not just use ubuntu instead of getting debian woody and then upgrading06:43
xlsMessengerreka, yes, i'm using backport06:43
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tiglionabbitis there any way that I can play both RealPlayer and Quicktime files in Totem?  With totem-gstreamer, it plays quicktime, and with totem-xine it plays realplayer.  But I can't have both at once!06:43
ZeXr0I can't boot the cd06:43
rekach_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:43
ZeXr0I only got floppyu06:43
GeoffrianCould someone please tell me how to extract files from an ISO without burning and mounting?????????06:43
ZeXr0else I would get the installation for Ubuntu06:43
nickrudZeXr0 but, what cafuego says is basically what you'll do06:43
ZeXr0I don't have a cddrive06:44
crimsunGeoffrian: load the loop kernel module, mount the iso using the loop option, then retrieve the file.06:44
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xlsMessengerreka, do i need to do something else if i'm using backports?06:44
IceDC571what the crap.. gtk2 and qt?06:44
IceDC571!info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt06:44
Speedy2IceDC571: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - Makes your GTK 2 apps look like Qt ones06:44
jtan325man this is making me pull my hair out. does anyone know how to get programs to start on log-in, when using a different window manager than the defualt gnome?06:44
rekaxlsMessenger: you should limit your use of backports...upgrading with BP in sources.list could possibly lead to problems06:44
IceDC571oh06:44
Geoffriancrimsun:  I do not completely follow.06:44
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ch_604reka: youre not helping, that page isnt there06:44
rekajtan325: what WM?06:44
rekach_604: small 't'06:45
rekach_604: i've got the page open right now06:45
crimsunGeoffrian: sudo modprobe loop && mount -o loop foo.iso /somewhere && cp $whatever $there06:45
GeoffrianI had retrieved a file from Ubuntu that told me how to mount an ISO, but it did not show to files I would see if I actually ran the CD.06:45
ZeXr0if I had a cddrive, I would take a floppy to boot from cdrom, but actually I don't have a cdrom and the Netboot isn't woking so I'm trying with woody netinstall06:45
ch_604ooook thx06:45
rekach_604: yeah, sorry bout that :)06:45
jtan325reka, openbox06:45
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jtan325reka, opebox's docs say to use .xsession if you're using gdm (which i am)06:46
jtan325but it is not running06:46
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GigaClonubuntu have a common lisp compiler?06:46
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xlsMessengerreka, just one: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/06:46
xlsMessengeris it ok?06:46
crimsunGigaClon: sure. Enable universe and search for one.06:46
IceDC571ubuntu has a lisp?06:46
cafuegolithp06:47
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nickrudZeXr0 the links I remembered don't mention the woody floppies; nalioth is not stupid, so, maybe you'll want to wait till he's around again06:47
rekaxlsMessenger: the general advice is to only grab packages you need from BP and then comment it out06:47
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jtan325reka, do you have any ideas?06:47
bojanglesof course maybe foamy was trying to get people to commit suicide so they would never know about this graphic scene from GTA06:47
bojangleshttp://www.gtasanandreas.net/screenshots/gallery.php?image=191406:47
xlsMessengerreka, i see, thanks06:47
Ahabwho actually runs http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/?06:47
GeoffrianCrimsun:  What should I put in for $whatever $there???06:48
IceDC571a fedora user06:48
GeoffrianMy mount point?  (/media/iso)?06:48
crimsunGeoffrian: the file you want and its destination, respectively06:48
bojanglesit takes a while to load...but it clearly shows all the big niggers that work for the filthy rich JEWS....and how they enjoy raping all the white women06:48
hondjeZeXr0: you can do net install from woody, just pin to hoary in /etc/apt/preferences06:48
rekajtan325: not really, i'm not really familiar with the WM06:48
AerebusCan anyone here thats using Ubuntu compile the source code of a program for me or help me with it? i've been having one tough time here trying to get this little program working and i keep getting the same error06:48
bojanglesjust like that bastard Dr. Martin Luther King06:48
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jtan325reka, but the WM doesn't really have anything to do with my question06:48
ZeXr0hondje actually there's nothing installed yet...06:49
Speedy2Aerebus:  What's the error?06:49
crimsunbojangles: quit it.06:49
Geoffrianfoo.iso is the want file though?  Now you're confusing me.06:49
jtan325i would like to know where is the actual file that gets executed by gdm when a user logs in06:49
AerebusSpeedy2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46506:49
jtan325or the user-level file06:49
GigaClonI don't see lithp in synaptic06:49
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spanglesontoastwhat's the best podcasting client?06:50
AerebusSpeed2, the file is hosted on sourceforge if you wanna take a look at the fustration i'm dealing with lol06:50
IceDC571spanglesontoast: itunes06:50
GigaClonlol @ IceDC57106:50
Speedy2Aerebus: Try doing sudo apt-get install libglademm2.0-dev06:50
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IceDC571did ubotu die?06:51
spanglesontoastthere isn't a version for linu06:51
spanglesontoastlinux06:51
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spanglesontoastor ubuntu06:51
Am|NickTakenubotu: smeg06:51
IceDC571there's a version for wine ;)06:51
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/06:51
Am|NickTakennope, ubotu is fine06:51
siimodoes hoary recognise/support sata controllers06:51
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ColonelKernelsiimo, mine does06:51
IceDC571!Amaranth06:51
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crimsunsiimo: yes, but you may need a newer kernel, like the one in Breezy06:51
AmaranthIceDC571: :D06:52
AmaranthIceDC571: Who added that?06:52
IceDC571Amaranth: i thought you did?06:52
siimocrimsun, i tried installing fedora on it and it simply froze saying no hdd found06:52
AmaranthIceDC571: Oh yeah, I was showing someone how ubotu did actions.06:52
Amaranthubotu: forget Amaranth06:52
ubotui forgot amaranth, Amaranth06:52
siimomind you this was a 2 yr old fedora06:52
crimsunsiimo: sorry, don't know too much regarding Fedora06:52
ed1tcrap...i installed kubuntu to test it out and now all my settings are changed on gnome...i even uninstalled it but my default browser is changed to konquere06:53
IceDC571ed1t: isnt kde great?06:53
ed1tno06:54
ed1tgnome rocks!!!06:54
ed1tkde sucks06:54
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crimsunlet's keep the desktop environment wars outta here, shall we? :)06:54
ed1theh06:54
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IceDC571no....06:54
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IceDC571explorer.exe rocks!!!!!!!06:54
ed1tso how do i change my setting back to gnome?06:54
ed1thahhaha06:54
tiglionabbitIceDC571: rofl06:55
AerebusSpeedy2, lol it worked thanks man06:55
tiglionabbited1t: when you login, click on sessions, and select gnome06:55
IceDC571i compiled sharpmusique.. and it created sharpmusique.exe i was like what the crap06:56
bojanglescrimsun, the Foamy guy was the one who came in here and started talking about games....in particular he mentioned the famous one 7th Guest and i suspect he was trying to hide the graphics scenes in GTA from everyone that cause it to be a bestseller06:56
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nickrudI talked to Foamy for a bit, he seemed normal06:56
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IceDC571i love xfce right now, i used to hate it06:57
AerebusIce, isnt xfce the terminal or something?06:57
crimsunbojangles: that's great. What does that have to do with your irc client espousing various racial slurs, regardless of "who said it first"?06:57
IceDC571Aerebus: its another window manager06:57
Speedy2Aerebus: You're welcome.  If you look at your output, it was failing because it didn't have that library.  What I did was sudo apt-get update . then apt-cache search libglademm06:57
tiglionabbitAerebus: no, it's another desktop envirnoment like gnome06:58
nickrudbut, considering who may run for offices ...06:58
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Speedy2Aerebus: It returned me the options and I gave you the "dev" option06:58
noob-leechI'm planning to format my NTFS partitions...06:58
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ed1tblah06:59
IceDC571was OS X really based off of freebsd?06:59
noob-leechI just wonder... which format would you recommend?06:59
crimsunIceDC571: userspace portions, yes06:59
ed1tit still got konquerer and bunch of other stuff06:59
sproingieIceDC571: it's based off of mach06:59
ed1ti uninstalled kde and made gdm as a default06:59
nickrudnoob-leech ntfs for your real windows, a fat32 for moving things, and the rest linux06:59
sproingieIceDC571: freebsd was used for the unix layer.  cocoa was based off of nextstep06:59
Aerebustiglionabbit, i've seen on art-gnome these terminal themes, are those for gnome or xfce?06:59
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IceDC571terminal themes?07:00
Aerebuslike hacked boarders etc07:00
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IceDC571i think you might be talking about metacity?07:00
Aerebusi'll find a linky07:00
ed1tBLAHHHHHH!!! i hate kde....freaking deleted all my favs, everything from gnome07:00
ed1ti mean from firefox07:00
holycowit shouldnt of done that07:00
holycowwhat do you mean kde deleted it?07:01
noob-leechnickrud: So, if I want to use a partition for both Windows and Linux, is FAT32 the only choice available?07:01
nickruded1t that'll teach you, create a new user for anything wierd, like kde :)07:01
IceDC571nickrud: you can use ext3 and reiserfs.. but you'll have to install a driver in windows07:01
nickrudnoob-leech no, there are others, that's just what I am comfortable with07:01
sproingienoob-leech: if you want both to write to it, yes.  there's ways around it, but they're not pretty07:01
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ed1ti mean when i open firefox now...all my favorites are gone, other settings and now konquerer is my default browser even though i delete kde07:01
ed1tkde is evil!07:01
sproingienoob-leech: one involves using colinux in windows and running samba on colinux07:02
holycowed1t, chances are its not gone07:02
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ed1tthen?07:02
nickrudIt's been hacked to death, so it works07:02
holycowjust a new profile under firefox is created07:02
holycowwith a blank bookmarks.html file07:02
holycowcheck your ./mozilla dir in your home dir07:02
holycowyour looking for bookmarks.html file07:02
holycowor singular of that07:02
noob-leechOuch.... I just want to use some Windows app... but WINE never works for me... =/07:03
AerebusIceDC, http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~slabosz/wordpress/?page_id=2007:03
noob-leechThanks for your suggestions, sproingie and nickrud.07:03
ed1tthere is no booksmarks.html file07:03
sproingienoob-leech: then download it to your windows partition.  linux can read ntfs just fine.  it's write that has problems07:03
Aerebusthose look like terminals to me but they say xfce07:03
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ed1tgrrr kde07:04
ed1tthis pisses me off07:04
tiglionabbited1t: what does?07:04
ed1tkde07:04
IceDC571Aerebus: those are xfce themes, they are just showing it off by using terminals lol07:04
tiglionabbited1t: why?07:04
hondjecan anyone lsmod | grep ohci for me?07:04
sproingieed1t: not to deflate the kde-hatred you're obviously enjoying, but konq doesn't touch firefox07:04
Aerebusblah07:04
Aerebuslol07:04
Aerebusi want me terminal t look like the borderless one!07:05
tiglionabbitohci1394               34596  007:05
tiglionabbitieee1394              108312  2 ohci1394,sbp207:05
ed1ti installed kde and it deleted all my firefox settings, favorites, and stuff07:05
hondjethanks tiglionabbit07:05
tiglionabbithondje: ^07:05
tiglionabbityou're welcome07:05
IceDC571btw, isnt apple's safari browser based off of konqueror?07:05
ed1tsproingie, i dunno wat happened then...coz everythings gone07:05
sproingieed1t: i find firefox does that just fine on its own07:05
tiglionabbited1t: it wont have.  You can create different profiles in firefox.  Make sure you're using the same one07:05
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ed1tim using the default profile07:06
IceDC571i just hate how in kde everything you see is Kthis, Kthat07:06
jtan325does ANYONE know what file gdm executes on each user's login?07:06
tiglionabbitrofl, IceDC57107:06
ed1tlol07:06
jtan325i.e. when you edit "sessions" using the gnome preferences07:06
tiglionabbitI think they were Trying to do that.07:06
jtan325what file does that edit?07:07
david_anyone know of any good dock apps / launcher type things07:07
nickrudvenom has no value, if you know what it's about :)07:07
jtan325this is ridiculous, it seems like no one knows the answer to this07:07
tiglionabbitjtan325: we don't.  Try asking on ubuntuforums07:07
tiglionabbit.org07:07
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nickrudjtan325 I've been using gnome for over 5 years, and have never found that file.07:07
IceDC571david_: have you tried gDesklets?07:07
nickrudjtan325 I use .gnomerc07:08
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ed1tnever touching kde again07:08
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jtan325hmmmm nickrud, that is interesting07:08
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david_IceDC571, not yet07:08
spanglesontoastwheres xmms-mp3?07:08
brunocan someone tell me if linux-image-2.6.10-5-K7 works wich sempron?07:08
IceDC571david_: theres also engage but its a pain to set up07:08
crimsunbruno: yes07:09
brunocrimsun, tks07:09
crimsunyw07:09
bojanglescrimsun, well Crimsun you obviously must not have a treasured little girl that you would not like raped by big niggers to produce off-colored children....and perhaps even kill them like OJSimpson did.07:09
eliUbuntuquestion, why does xine play dvd's at a non-uniform rate?07:09
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brunocrimsun, to install -K7 package, do i have do deinstall -386 package?07:09
nickrudjtan325 .gnomerc is used like .xsession, as best I have tested07:09
IceDC571everything works with sempron, unless its SSE2 or AMD64... or PPC.... also SSE307:09
IceDC571also hyperthreading07:09
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jtan325nickrud, have you used other WM's?07:09
IceDC571and SMP07:10
rekaeliUbuntu: you probably need to enable DMA07:10
david_IceDC571, yah ive tried engage but didnt get it working07:10
jtan325nickrud, and is it ~/.gnomerc?07:10
eliUbuntureka: how do you enable DMA mode?07:10
nickrudjtan325 name them, I've probably at least looked at them07:10
IceDC571!dma07:10
eliUbuntuin xine?07:10
IceDC571eliUbuntu: type !dma, ubotu will give you the answers07:10
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danielscrimsun: oh, sorry, didn't see our +q07:11
danielser, your +q07:11
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nickrudjtan325 ~/.gomerc: currently I set the PATH there, so any scripts I want from ~/bin are available from ALT-F207:11
eliUbuntu!dma07:11
crimsundaniels: np07:11
spanglesontoastwhen can I grab xmms-mp3?07:11
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rekaeliUbuntu: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom07:11
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: you want to play mp3s?  Get gstreamer0.8-mad07:11
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eliUbuntuthanks reka07:12
tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-mad07:12
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB07:12
spanglesontoastwhat happened to xmms?07:12
eliUbuntuchecking it out now07:12
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tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: beep-media-player is better than xmms anyway.  But yeah, you can get that if you want07:12
spanglesontoastwhere?07:12
rekaeliUbuntu: you'll need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf if you want it to be enabled on startup07:12
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rekaspanglesontoast: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player07:13
IceDC571apt-get? are we back in the 90's??07:13
GigaClon!clisp07:13
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, GigaClon07:13
noob-leechI've just come across a package, which contains a .so and a .la file.07:14
IceDC571noob-leech: yes?07:14
noob-leechDoes anyone know if there is any way to install that package?07:14
hondjewhat do ?--S-----t permissions mean?07:14
IceDC571noob-leech: whats the full filename of the package?07:14
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noob-leechIceDC571, bmp-flac-plugin ..07:14
crimsunGigaClon: look at gcl, for instance07:14
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ch_604ok, still cant find a deb for bmp07:15
noob-leechIt contains libbmp-flac.so and libbmp-flac.la ..07:15
IceDC571noob-leech: the flac plugin doesnt work for bmp unless you compile it07:15
rekach_604: it's in universe07:15
rekach_604: did you enable it using the link i gave?07:16
dabaRhondje: where did you get that?07:16
GigaClonI am trying to install clisp, the ubuntu website lists it as a package but I don't see it in synaptic07:16
ch_604sure did07:16
tiglionabbit!info clisp07:16
ubotuclisp: (GNU CLISP, a Common Lisp implementation), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1:2.33.2-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 2206 kB, Installed size: 6908 kB07:16
tiglionabbitGigaClon: it is in the universe repository07:16
tiglionabbit!repositories07:16
ubotusomebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:16
hondjedabaR: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/usb/host07:16
noob-leechIceDC571, let me try to compile it again....07:16
tiglionabbitread that guide, it should explain how to add it07:16
dabaRsymbolic link?07:16
hondjeYes07:16
rekach_604: how are you installing?07:16
rekach_604: apt-get or CL?07:17
rekawhoops07:17
nickrudjtan325 actually, the gnome session file is found as ~/.gnome2/session07:17
dabaRthen thats what the [perms mean, maybe.07:17
rekasynaptic or CL? :)07:17
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ch_604apt-get07:17
jtan325nickrud, yeah07:17
hondjedabaR: Maybe, the ? is what throws me07:17
rekaand you ran sudo apt-get update?07:17
dabaRits in the place wehre you usually have the d, or -07:18
ch_604yea, there was nothing to update07:18
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noob-leechThe bmp-flac plugin... I can't seem to compile it. =/07:18
nickrudjtan325 I actually knew that, I forgot until I thought again07:18
dabaRmaybe it dont know if its a dir or not, so it says ?07:18
dabaRI mean, thats just a guess....07:18
rekach_604: then you haven't saved the file or something's wrong with your sources.list07:18
hondjeit's not a dir07:18
hondjethose say d there07:18
eliUbuntuthanks reka07:19
rekach_604: ready-to-use sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:19
hondjeI'll have to just whip out my bash book07:19
eliUbuntuit worked07:19
rekaeliUbuntu: goodo07:19
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eliUbuntuanother question, what is a good website developing program for ubuntu? or linux in general?07:19
dabaRhehe, hondje, do csh in a terminal, do ls, and tell me if it changed;)07:19
hoslerWho needs edonkey when you have google?07:19
hondjedabaR: eww, csh ;)07:20
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dabaRlets do some c shell scripting together:)07:20
hondjeby the sea shore07:20
absinthe_lol07:20
dabaRlol07:20
hondjeyep, sure does07:20
dabaRhondje: changed???07:21
hondjeyeah07:21
hoslerDoes steam work well with cedega?07:21
dabaRwow07:21
hondjewith a % and everything07:21
dabaRinto what07:21
dabaR?07:21
absinthe_hosler, no not really07:21
dabaRI mean, the permissions changed?07:21
noob-leechHmm... I can't compile the bmp-flac plugin...07:21
absinthe_hosler, it is VERY slow with halflife 207:21
hoslerabsinthe_: what does work well with cedega?07:21
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noob-leechWould anyone here please check what has gone wrong?07:21
ramiroholas07:21
absinthe_hosler, the original half life works well.07:21
ramirocomo me conecto a un servidor en espaol07:22
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hoslerok07:22
absinthe_hosler, or UT2k4 works great and it runs native in linu07:22
hondjeno, it didn't change07:22
hoslerhaha ok07:22
hondjesure doesn't change means I07:22
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rekanoob-leech: join their IRC channel while you wait: irc://irc.chatjunkies.org/bmp07:22
dabaRok, yes, I didnt expect it to, cause its independent of the shell, that is why I said that, cause you said you were gonna find out in a bash book.07:23
noob-leechThanks, reka.07:23
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hondjedabaR: how do you redirect w/ csh?07:24
hoslerWhats the difference between cedega and winex3?07:24
dabaRredirect? like > ?07:24
hondjeyeah07:24
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hondjebash isn't letting me redirect the output from strace07:25
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golddoes anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf doesnt save when i reboot?07:25
dabaRsame, hondje.07:26
dabaRthere is standard error, that is why it is not redirecting, I think,.07:26
dabaRthere are tricks for it, like &3 or something, I cant rememner any moer07:26
Flavhondje: where do you want to redirect the output to?07:26
hondjeFlav: a file07:27
sinfernois there a way to get tome to play avi and mpg?07:27
Go_pLasticanyone know who to get .avi and .mpg files working?07:27
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sinfernolol07:27
Flavhondje:        -o filename Write  the  trace output to the file filename rather than to stderr.07:27
tiglionabbit!nvidia07:27
uboturumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
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bob2hondje: I hope you have backups07:27
hondjeFlav: oh, awesome, thanks07:27
jasoncohenif any users asks about multimedia apps they should use or about info on the apps, i have written up a wiki page with descriptions and screenshots of several audio & video apps as well as info on divx/xvid/quicktime/windows media/realplayer support & playing embedded movies in firefox + DVDs. the link is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show07:27
bob2Go_pLastic: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:27
hondjebob2: so it is as screwed as I thought?07:27
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Flavhondje: redirecting stderr would be foo 2> file   in bash, might be the same in csh too, i'm not sure07:28
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bob2hondje: I'd assume the disk is physically failing07:28
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dabaRwhy new user, in all those names?07:28
hondjebob2: Why would you assume that?07:28
bob2hondje: but it could be a kernel problem (highly unlikely)07:28
hondjesmartctl doesn't think so07:28
jasoncohenso far i have included beep-media-player, amarok, rhythmbox, xine-ui, totem and i'm planning to add vlc and more info on mplayer07:28
bob2hondje: i/o error = hardware puked when the kernel tried to read from it07:29
againstmeif i need to download a program, do i just pick the program that is made for debian to be able to run it on ubuntu07:29
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hondjebob2: that's why I'm stracing and the like...it only does that on the usb modules07:29
hosleragainstme: anything with .deb at the end.07:29
againstmeok thanks07:29
bob2hondje: i've only seen that error in two cases: failing disk, or a messed up filesystem module I wrote07:29
bob2hondje: look in the output of 'dmesg'07:29
hondjeattempt to access beyond end of device07:30
hondjehda1: rw=0, want=1076716952, limit=4882147207:30
bob2hondje: strace won't be useful, it'll just show the stat() or read() calls getting an error code07:30
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dabaRhosler: >:(07:30
bob2hondje: that's Bad07:30
bestari10terengganu07:30
hoslerdabaR: what?07:30
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bob2hondje: tho I guess it could just mean the partition table is screwed up07:30
dabaRwhy did you answer that, it is not really tru...07:30
bestari10amy07:30
hoslerdabaR: works for me.07:31
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dabaRok, then.07:31
hondjeEXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal07:32
hondjeinit_special_inode: bogus i_mode (72127)07:32
hondjethen 30 or 40 of those07:32
dabaRyou go insatll .debs to your system...07:32
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D3vHey All! I just installed kubuntu! but i have no internet. i need help on configuring it because i really don't know what im doing! can anyone help me please?07:33
dabaRwhat kind of internet do you have?07:33
D3vCable07:33
dabaRok, do you connect with ethernet or USB?07:33
D3vethernet07:33
dabaRgood, so, why is it not working? do you use a router?07:33
bob2hondje: warranty time, methinks07:33
bob2hondje: or maybe disable dma and reboot07:34
D3vyes im using a linseys router but ports have been foward a;ready07:34
hondjebob2: okay, I'll give those a shot after smartctl finishes the long test07:34
Speedy2D3v: Can you ping the router07:34
Speedy2?07:34
dabaRnot cause of that, I ask for some other reason.07:35
bestari10haii07:35
bob2it's odd that smart doesn't see a probem07:35
dabaRdo you have ubuntu booted now?07:35
dabaRdo you ahve it in front of you?07:35
bob2D3v: port forwarding has nothing to do with your machine being able to access the internet, btw07:35
D3vyes Dabar i do07:35
dabaRok, go System>Admin>Networking.07:35
D3vbob2 ok =(07:35
dabaRTell me what do you see there.07:36
dabaRif there is a eth0.07:36
IceDC571hmm... im thinking of switching to debian07:36
spanglesontoastfinally got iPodder working07:36
dabaRI mean, whether.07:36
dabaRIceDC571: good call:)07:36
dabaRI did too recently...I still use Ubuntu more.07:36
spanglesontoasthttp://ipodder.sourceforge.net/support/viewtopic.php?t=160 that helps07:36
dabaRspanglesontoast: good for you.07:37
dabaRbrb07:37
IceDC571debian's repositories are really up to date07:37
eliUbuntujasoncohen: thanks for the multimedia link. very good source07:37
D3vdabaR theres no admin under System ?07:37
jasoncoheneliUbuntu, np- if you want me to add anything to ask07:37
jasoncoheneliUbuntu, we still have to add vlc07:38
eliUbuntuwhat is vlc?07:38
jasoncohen!vlc07:38
ubotumethinks vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.07:38
eliUbuntuthanks07:38
eliUbuntu!vlc07:38
D3vVLC  is great07:38
dabaRD3v: hwo about Administration?07:38
jasoncohenunfortunately the screenshot for totem didn't work- it just shows a blue screen07:38
jasoncohenbut the xine one came out very nicely07:38
tiglionabbitubotu forget vlc07:39
ubotui forgot vlc, tiglionabbit07:39
D3vdabaR: no admin , administration at all07:39
dabaRhah, stupid me, kubuntu you said:)07:39
dabaRok, well, do this, /join #flood as your message.07:40
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dabaRhurry hurry07:40
dabaR:)07:40
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hondjelong smartctl test passed07:41
hondje:-/07:41
spanglesontoastwhy is xmms-mp3 not in the repos?07:41
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phzihey everyone07:42
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phziI installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package07:42
delltonyanyone here have any experience getting mplayer to compile with libmp3lame support?07:43
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phzinow, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it07:43
phzimonitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)07:43
spanglesontoastgrrr07:44
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spanglesontoastwheres mp3?07:44
phzianyone ever hear of anything like that?07:44
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FlannelKingspanglesontoast, what about xmms-mad?07:45
x55i've got a very important question07:46
x55where did linux get the penguin?  hehehe07:46
spanglesontoastwhy has it changed to mad rather than mp3?07:46
x55when i think of an OS, i must say, flightless birds do not immediately come to mind07:46
nickrudspanglesontoast it's a developer thing, don't ask, I say07:47
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x55hehehe07:47
spanglesontoastok xmms still crashes odd07:47
Aerebusanyone know if there is a "sudo empty trash" command? lol07:47
paul_esound?07:47
phziAerebus: sudo rm -fr $HOME/.Trash/07:48
spanglesontoastyea esound works fine oss and alsa don't work07:48
spanglesontoastodd07:48
phziwill forcefully empty the gnome trash07:48
nickrudspanglesontoast no, that is exactly correct07:48
paul_ya odd that xmms isnt included in the first place07:48
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Aerebuslol ty phzi07:49
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phzino worries07:49
nickrudspanglesontoast there are sound cards that can do hardware mixing, and those that don't07:49
adwaithey again ppl'07:49
znhhmm.. anyone noticed that you can't change the background in XFCE4 ?07:49
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FlannelKingx55, tux (which is his name) is what linus picked (hesaid he was rather fond of the penguin) : http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/07:49
nickrudif you have one that does, you're set, otherwise use esound until breezy (we all hope)07:49
phzi I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it07:49
x55tux!07:49
phzimonitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)07:49
phzianyone aware of this issue?07:49
x55thank you07:49
spanglesontoastit's worked before thou07:50
thechitowncubshey everyone, i've got a big problem, my sisters computer won't even boot, it freezes when starting GDM07:50
spanglesontoastoh07:50
spanglesontoastI got ya07:50
spanglesontoastis that because of gnome making sounds?07:50
GigaClonanyone know a good linux games downloading site?07:50
znhGarathor: yes07:50
thechitowncubsi don't know what to tell you guys besides that right before graveman froze and it was rebooted and then the next time it was started it wouldn't start gdm07:50
adwaitthechitowncubs: graphic card divers ok?07:50
adwait*drivers07:50
paul_ati x300 gpu drivers? where would those be anyone07:50
thechitowncubsyep07:50
adwaitthechitowncubs: does it show like vertical greenish lines on the screen?07:51
thechitowncubsit freezes but it shows the active/busy mouse cursor07:51
znhGigaClon: http://www.happypenguin.org/07:51
thechitowncubsno07:51
thechitowncubsi can't even do: ctrl+alt+f107:51
phzipaul_: ati.com07:51
phzithey have linux drivers07:51
paul_duh , lol07:51
nickrudspanglesontoast I've probaly bitten off more than I can chew at the the moment, but:07:51
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nickrudalsa is the kernel sound system.07:51
znhI need some seriouse help.. I can't change this poop color to any other color (XFCE4) I could before!07:51
spanglesontoast!info esound07:51
ubotuesound: (Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 80 kB07:51
phzipaul_: download the ati linux .run file, chmod +x it, and then ./launch it07:51
phziit'll run thru the setup process07:52
adwaitthechitowncubs: umm.......maybe u could try going into non X mode from grub and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg07:52
nickrudif you have a card that does 'multi-open' or hardware mixing, set all sound outputs to alsa07:52
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adwait*xorg07:52
nickrudotherwise, try to get them to use esound, or esd07:52
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phziI had a lot of problems with sound in ubuntu07:52
kestashow do I direct error on the console to a file?07:53
phzibut I worked out a proccess that fixes it07:53
kestasyou know like 2>&1, but 2>&errorfile or something07:53
nickrudAnd, if it's something that cannot use esound, then search for dmix on alsa-project.org07:53
phzihttp://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly07:54
phzi(if you sound card is already detected)07:54
phzihttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=sounds+audigy07:54
thechitowncubsadwait, oh recovery mode07:54
thechitowncubsthat sounds like a good idea07:54
phzi(if your sound card isn't detected properly)07:54
phzianyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?07:55
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nickrudor, for your particular sound card ;P07:55
spanglesontoasthmmm windows is for games in my own idea etc07:55
adwaitthechitowncubs: yeah......or just select the normal option u use to boot linux and edit with command by pressing 'e' and then add  '1' at the end and continue booting07:56
spanglesontoastcedega sucks for us ati peeps07:56
phzianyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?07:56
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bob2lots of people are07:56
phziwell, I am wondering if someone who is actually around is07:56
bob2if you have a question about it, best to just ask07:56
phzibecause I'm having issues07:56
spanglesontoasthow good is cedega on nvidia?07:56
phziI have twice07:56
phziI installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it07:57
phzimonitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)07:57
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phzianyone seen something like that?07:57
spanglesontoastand if someone has cedega and nivida could they take a screeny?07:57
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thechitowncubssounds good thanks for the tips07:57
adwaitthechitowncubs: np07:57
paul_ok how would i install a rpm using alien?07:57
bob2phzi: try asking on the user list07:57
bob2paul_: what rpm?07:57
thechitowncubsdoes anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?07:57
adwaitpaul_: sudo alien <whtever>07:57
paul_ati gpu driver07:58
phziya, that's the next step, thanks bob207:58
adwaitpaul_: then dpkg -i <createddebfile>07:58
GobfreyI'm having problems stalling hugin, can anyone give me a little help?07:58
bob2phzi: if you get no love there, I think filing a bug would be appropriate07:58
jtgameoveranyone know what's the equivalent of .xinitrc for gdm in ubuntu? .xsession doesn't seem to be the answer07:58
bob2paul_: the ati drivers in ubuntu don't work?07:58
phzigood plan, thanks for responding bob207:58
paul_dpkg -i (then the file name)?07:58
paul_im running a x30007:58
phzipaul_: there is an automated install07:59
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phzion ati.com07:59
adwaitpaul_:  yes.......alien will create a deb file, and then u use tht filename07:59
paul_hmm all i get is the code07:59
phzido this:07:59
paul_for the installer download07:59
phzisave it somewhere on your computer07:59
adwaitpaul_: with alien?07:59
phziopen a terminal (root)07:59
paul_no the installer07:59
phzisave the installer07:59
jtgameoverif i wanted some programs to run on login, what file would i edit?07:59
thechitowncubsdoes anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?07:59
phziand do: chmod +x <ati_installer>08:00
phzithen ./<ati_installer>08:00
adwaitjtgameover: system>preferences>sessions08:00
jtgameoveradwait, do you know what file that edits?08:00
phzimake sense paul_?08:00
adwaitjtgameover: .xsessions08:00
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paul_the installer just opens a window with the code, no option to download08:00
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jtgameoverreally? you sure about that?08:01
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phziwhat browser are you using? firefox?08:01
bob2paul_: why don't you just install the drivers that come with ubuntu?08:01
phziright click, save as08:01
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adwaitjtgameover: no......i just tried and it gave me a new file...but it was something sim ilear08:01
jtgameoveradwait, would the same thing work if i used openbox or another wm08:01
phzibob2: they are slightly older, and I don't believe support his chipset08:01
nickrudthechitowncubs I'm almost afraid to skim the gnome lists, to find that it will not be in 2.1208:01
signbarnHow do i make it so apt-get doesn't ask for my 5.04 install disk?08:01
jtgameoveradwait what's the new file?08:01
paul_actually, im doing this as a experiment to install in a pure debian install08:01
tiglionabbitsignbarn: comment out that repository08:01
tiglionabbit!repositories08:01
ubotusomebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:01
adwaitjtgameover: no idea buddy.........never used anything but gnome :)08:01
TR0Ndoes anyone know a reason why ubuntu could crash with a kernel panic during installation?08:01
Gobfreyhugin complains that it can't find a library, but the library is there.  I think maybe my library path is screwed up.  I don't really know, I'm new to this.  I pasted some information to paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:02
signbarn!repositories08:02
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jtgameoverdoes anyone here use openbox?08:02
paul_as i can never seem to get a gui to work in pure debian08:02
phzipaul_, you can PM me if you think I might be of help08:02
phzikinda useless to chat in the channel08:02
bob2Gobfrey: there doesn't seem to be anything called "hugin" in ubuntu...maybe you could tell us what it is, where it's from, and givee us the past url?08:02
Razor-Xjtgameover: Fluxbox is much more popular08:02
phziI just did the ATI install yesterday08:02
phzifrom the .run file08:03
paul_well its a sleepless night, and im not making much sense08:03
jtgameoverRazor-X, i am switching from fluxbox to openbox08:03
phzior that :P08:03
jtgameovertrust me, i've had my fun with fluxbox08:03
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bob2thechitowncubs: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2005-June/msg00016.html08:03
Razor-Xjtgameover: I don't like Fluxbox too much, but it seemed easy to configure08:03
TR0Nhm sorry actually it happened after installation when starting the system first.08:03
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paul_phizi im saving the installer , now thanks08:03
jtgameoverRazor-X, defiitely08:03
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jtgameoverRazor-X, i am trying to get somee programs to run when i log in to openbox though08:04
phzialright paul_, well let me know how it works out08:04
paul_k08:04
Gobfreybob2: hugin is a panorama stitching program.  I followed a tutorial on http://rbpark.ath.cx/articles/compile-hugin-ubuntu08:04
jtgameoverRazor-X, if i edit my .xinitrc file and kill all gdm's running08:04
jtgameoverand then do startx08:04
jtgameoverit works08:04
jtgameoverstuff runs when i log in08:04
jtgameoverbut when i edit my .xsession08:04
Gobfreyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46708:04
Razor-Xdoesen't work?08:04
jtgameoveryep08:04
paul_pain killers are kicking in, might have to go back to bed now lol08:04
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Razor-Xhmmmm....08:05
Razor-Xtry doing it through CRON08:05
Razor-Xnot many people use CRON anymore, but, that should be reliable08:05
paul_phizi gedit was not able to open error08:05
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phziwhat do you need gedit for?08:05
tiglionabbitokay that's really weard08:06
egi!info netcat08:06
ubotunetcat: (TCP/IP swiss army knife), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10-27 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 228 kB08:06
phzipaul_: can I PM you?08:06
paul_yeah08:06
tiglionabbitgrr08:06
Razor-Xnetcat is uber ;)08:06
Razor-Xalmost as uber as emacs XD08:06
D3v=08:07
D3v=( i just installed kubuntu but i cant get the net working?08:07
Razor-XD3v: how so?08:07
dabaRcable, interfaces has a good entry.08:08
dabaRgood night08:08
Razor-Xanyone have experience using pork in emacs?08:08
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D3vwell i didnt install it kubuntu with the net and i guess it didnt auto config it, and i dont know what im doing so i cant08:08
egi!help08:09
ArkainiumWhat are some disk intensive operations that I can perform to test the stability of my new drive.  I've been crashing lately and want to see if my hard drive is to blame here.08:09
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Razor-XD3v: what kinda net connection do you have?08:09
D3vRazor-X Cable, useing ethernet08:09
D3vusing^08:09
Razor-XArkainium: you can try compiling something huge08:09
Razor-XD3v: any router?08:10
D3vyes08:10
D3vlinseys08:10
Razor-Xmention that ;)08:10
Razor-Xlihseys?08:10
ArkainiumRazor-X, I thought compilation was more of a processor thing.08:10
Razor-Xis that some cheap linksys rip-off?08:10
Razor-XArkainium: you want to test your HDD?08:10
D3vgot it with vonage, for my cable internet08:11
Arkainiumya08:11
D3vso i can have a house phone too08:11
Razor-XArkainium: cordon off some free space, fill it with crap files, and shred em08:11
Razor-Xlike shred em, writing them over many times08:11
Razor-XD3v: or you could use DSL for that ;) Linksys?08:11
Arkainiumhmm.. maybe compression/decompression08:11
hyphenatedArkainium: how about updatedb08:12
Razor-XArkainium: shredding writes and rewrites to files08:12
Razor-Xerasing them completely08:12
D3vhad dsl but they riped me off08:12
Razor-Xput it on highest security, many files08:12
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Arkainiumthanks for the suggestion.  i'll give them a try08:12
Razor-XD3v: $19.99 is nice, anyways Linksys? need to be sure it's not some cheap rip08:12
Razor-Xupdatedb isn't that HDD intensive, for me at least08:12
Razor-XI could suggest nuking, but that's if you want to give up the HDD ;)08:13
nickrudso, Razor-X , you have good experiences with linksys ;)08:13
Arkainiumand updatedb is smart.. it keeps a cache so you can't do it many times.  (i think)08:13
hyphenatedthe kernel keeps the cache08:13
hyphenatedautomagically08:13
Razor-Xnickrud: I use a netgear meself ;)08:13
Razor-Xalthough, I may just convert the 486 into a firewall08:13
hyphenatedanyways, I'm off.08:13
D3vwell even when i would try to hook it up directly from the cable box it still wouldnt let me on the net08:13
Razor-Xif only the cable connection difference wasn't so huge08:14
Razor-XD3v: why?08:14
Razor-Xshouldn't it work with DHCP?08:14
nickrudRazor-X I only mention it cuz I've only used linksys, and and can alwyays validation :)08:14
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Razor-XArkainium: isn't that the whole _point_ of updatedb? a cache? ;)08:14
nickrudhuh, s/alwyays/allways use/08:14
Razor-Xnickrud: Linksys makes rock-solid routers08:14
D3vyou would think it would but it doesnt08:15
Razor-XD3v: what did you have to configure?08:15
D3vi didnt config anything. im a noob at linux, i dont know what im doing, im just trying to learn so i can get a way from wintendo08:16
ArkainiumRazor-X, hmm.. shred doesn't work with journaled filesystems.08:16
Razor-Xwhat did you configure in Windows?08:16
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Razor-XArkainium: there must be a shredder that does08:16
Razor-Xmine does ;)08:16
nickrudD3v then, experiment away :)08:16
Razor-Xalthough mine's included with KDE08:16
Gobfreycan no-one give me a little help?08:16
Razor-Xnickrud: the problem is, he doesen't know _what_ needs configuring, if I knew this, it would be ease to fix the problem08:16
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ubuntuhola08:17
Gobfreyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46708:17
D3vRazor-X nothing i edit movies and make them, thats it08:17
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ArkainiumRazor-X, oh, I better search apt then08:17
Razor-XD3v: actual encoding/transcoding? or just making movies?08:17
ubuntuso how are alll of you tonite08:17
Razor-Xubuntu: judge for yourself ;)08:17
aruI'm sexy+08:17
Razor-Xaru: ok then08:18
aruheh08:18
vladuz976hey when i install window managers with apt-get, do i still need to write a .desktop file or does it automatically put it in the gdm?08:18
nickrudRazor-X D3v I've been in the position of not being sure about what to configure so many times, I'm no longer afraid of experimentation08:18
Razor-Xvladuz976: no harm in checking ;)08:18
arusomeone asked, I had to reply08:18
Razor-Xnickrud: neither am I08:18
nickrudlol08:18
Razor-Xaru: I wonder how you are when you're not sexy ;)08:18
aruwouldn't know :)08:18
D3vencoding/transcoding. etc08:19
Razor-XI have 12677 lines of logs here08:19
Razor-XD3v: you ever used AVISynth?08:19
Razor-Xand I have more questions for you ;)08:19
vladuz976Razor-X: where are they again? in /usr/share something?08:19
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aruhey, all my stuff is working almost perfect08:19
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Razor-Xwhat codecs do you suggest for encoding a low-variety of colors, ok movement, with static subtitles?08:19
sbatten2I'm having a screen resolution problem08:19
D3vnickrud when i experiment i destroy everything08:20
Razor-Xvladuz976: locate ;)08:20
Razor-X!resolution08:20
sbatten2I can only run it seems at 640x48008:20
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:20
Razor-Xthere you are08:20
Razor-X;)08:20
nickrudD3w it's only software08:20
delltonywhere can i get the lame-dev files for ubuntu please?08:20
D3vAVISynth is good08:20
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Razor-XD3v: I grew real guts formatting my old machine 5 times in a row08:20
Razor-XD3v: I swear by it08:20
Razor-XLinux _really_ needs an AVISynth port08:20
D3vyes it does08:21
D3vi used gentoo linux for a whole but it broke so then i couldnt reinstall it08:21
delltonyD3v: just curious you know anything about making dvds to xvid?08:21
D3vwhile^08:21
Razor-Xdelltony: encoding skill requires much more than that, and if he knows AVISynth, i'm assuming yes ;)08:22
delltonythats why i asked08:22
D3vdelltony lol yeah08:22
delltonycause i assumed the same08:22
Razor-Xheh08:22
D3vxvid divx08:22
D3vshizix08:22
Razor-Xthe only non-fun part about encoding is the actual time it takes ;)08:22
delltonymy question is this though how in the hell did you get libmp3 to compile into mplayer or how did you install transcode08:22
nickrudD3v gentoo is lfs redux (for old schoolers). Like I said, it's only software. Install, experiment, and get the sys you want08:22
Razor-Xlike when you set a 3 hour movie to reencode, that takes a while08:23
sbatten2ok, read through that link, but still some troubles08:24
delltonyi can't get transcode to install on ubuntu for nothinig i have went thru the depends. and i can't seem to find lame-dev anywhere except rarewares.org08:24
Madpilotsbatten2: if you start Hoary with your screen turned off, it'll default to 640x480. it's a dumb bug, but there you go...08:24
sbatten2I know the problem is that I don't have hsync and vsync08:24
D3vdelltony.. its complicated and annoying but this movie editor i know made this progam that does it for you so you dont have to match everything up manually08:25
sbatten2on the back of the monitor it says 50-60hz which I assume is vrefresh08:25
Razor-Xdelltony: i'm having the same problem08:25
sbatten2but I cannot find an hrefresh anywhere online08:25
delltonyyeah i have been searching for days08:25
Razor-Xi've been noticing the latest builds have been coming real real flaky08:25
Razor-XD3v: i'm surprised howlittle encoders know about their OSs, since encoding is the closest thing to programming, skill-set-wise08:26
Razor-X*how little08:26
D3vanywho08:29
Razor-Xback08:29
Razor-XD3v: what did you have to do in Windows to get it to work?08:29
Razor-X(or mac, i'm assuming you came from Windows)08:29
gotonpoanyone know an easy way to convert .wmvs to .mpgs?08:29
Mestapheleshey guys, I just upgraded my warty on reiser to hoary.  Did warty use reiser3?  I assume hoary uses reiser4.08:30
Razor-XMestapheles: I don't think it changes the FS type, I may be wrong08:31
D3vRazor-X get what to work>08:31
Razor-Xhow is Rieser?08:31
Razor-XD3v: the internet08:31
D3vdidnt have to do anything.08:32
Mestaphelesyeah, I see a message in mail that tels me that I mights have to manually convert from reiserfs3 to 4.  Presumably hoary uses reiser4.  The thing is I don't know if warty used 3.08:32
D3vim on windows now08:32
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Razor-XD3v: you know the IP of the router?08:32
nickrudMestapheles if you did a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, the underlying fs will not change.08:33
Mestapheleswell it says if you use the wrong reiser utility you can hose your system08:33
Razor-XMestapheles: you can check using any good partiton manager08:33
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Mestaphelesfdisk -l calls them all linux08:33
paul_how do i change my screen resolution when i only have one option 640X400?08:33
paul_640x48008:34
Razor-X!resolution08:34
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:34
Razor-Xthere you go, paul_08:34
paul_there i go what08:34
paul_is that a command?08:35
Razor-Xpaul_: you saw the website?08:35
gotonpoi <3 ubuntu.08:35
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D3vi dont no the IP08:36
D3vknow^08:36
Mestapheleshow to change fonts manually might more in order for me08:36
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Razor-XD3v: try typing in "192.168.1.1" in a web browser08:36
Razor-XMestapheles: in the GUI, or terminal?08:37
Mestaphelesfdisk is console app08:38
Razor-Xfdisk is nasty!08:38
Razor-Xcfdisk08:38
D3vits http://192.168.15.1/ for are router but my brother through the paswrd on it and i dont know it,08:38
nickrudthe best place to drop truetype fonts for a multiuser system is /usr/local/fonts; for a single user, ~/.fonts08:38
absinthe_anyone know any good SPC players for linux? Any Beep plugins?08:38
Razor-XD3v: headlock your brother and tell him to make you sysadmin ;)08:39
nickruddhu08:39
D3vplus he uses linux so i know its not the router08:39
D3vlol08:39
nickrud/usr/local/share/fonts08:39
Razor-Xask him08:39
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D3vi just installed kubuntu with no internet so it never auto configed it, thats my problem08:40
D3vi nedd help to config it08:40
D3vits not reading my nic or anything08:40
Razor-XD3v: you can reinstall, but I don't think that's the problem08:41
D3vprobably not08:41
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Razor-Xor, maybe your brother did something to restrict the DHCP signal08:41
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renick#ardour08:42
D3vthen i wouldnt be on the computer im on now08:42
Razor-XD3v: he password protected it, or something08:42
D3vand if he did i'd go beat his little a@@08:42
Razor-Xdo it ;)08:42
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Razor-Xat least, get him to set it up, since he should know his own config08:42
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Razor-Xhondje: hey08:43
hondjeHowdy08:43
D3vits tempting08:43
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ilan_Hi, I have a question.08:43
hondjeHow's it going, Razor-X ?08:44
Razor-Xhondje: good ;)08:44
ilan_how can I "Uninstall" a program that I compiled?08:44
Razor-Xi've gone full into the Emacs Way (TM)08:44
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ilan_obviously apt-get remove dosent work08:44
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Razor-Xilan_: make clean08:44
ilan_ohh ok08:45
ilan_that sound logic.08:45
nickrudilan_ if you're lucky, and have a competent author, make uninstall08:45
ilan_I'll try08:45
madmavricyikes i totally hosed ubuntu by installing ati drivers08:45
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D3vit was emerge -C on gentoo un uninstall a compiled program but i dont know ubuntu yet =(08:45
Razor-XI totally ditched screen and BitchX and every other non-emacs thing I had ;)08:45
hondjeRazor-X: good deal :)08:45
hondjejust don't start sounding like ESR :)08:45
Razor-XD3v: apt-get remove08:45
Panzerboylol08:45
madmavrici bet ive reinstalled ubuntu 10 times in the last three weeks08:46
Razor-Xmadmavric: ;)08:46
Razor-Xhondje: heh08:46
Razor-Xthe only thing I don't like is emms08:46
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madmavricill never get to the point where i can install pure debian at this rate lol08:46
Razor-Xit's too lacklustered, at the moment08:46
nickrud*vIRTYALLY iNTELLIGENT vICTORY ;008:46
Panzerboymadmavric: but why did you install ubuntu so many times?08:47
madmavriccuz i keep fucking it up08:47
madmavriclol08:47
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Panzerboycool08:47
Panzerboykeep up the good work :P08:47
D3vman this really sucks08:47
ilan_Razor-X, what if I deleted the folder of the program? I need to compile it again and then "make clean" it?08:47
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Madpilotwhat f'd up so badly that you had to re-install? Ubuntu/Linux seems to have fairly intelligent restore/repair functions...08:48
D3vno net =(08:48
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Na_KunHAL fails. I'm trying to install the drivers for my HP 2175, but it doesn't work as USB (third) which it's on (device manager).. or any really. Help please?08:48
Razor-XMadpilot: recompiling your kernel? ;)08:48
nickrudmadmavric keep doing the install, you'll have the 'ha ha' moment08:48
D3vsit0 unknown hardware? whats that mean08:49
D3vnot reading my nic?08:49
ilan_ohh, never mind, I just configured it again.08:49
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ilan_by the way, does anyone knows a good program for ripping cd's?08:50
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Razor-Xbe back in a while08:50
nickrudilan_ dd /dev/cdrom <a.name.iso>08:50
Na_KunShould I re-install? It worked great the first time, but I had to kill it then.08:50
nickrudhm, I'll have to rewrite that08:50
Na_Kun5.04 really doesn't like my machine.08:51
nickrudilan_ dd if=/dev/cdrom of-<a.name.iso>08:51
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ilan_nickrud, I meant music cd to mp308:51
nickrudilan_ I use grip for that08:52
ilan_ok, I'll look for it, thanks.08:52
D3vgosh any body else wanna try and help me08:52
Na_KunWhat, D3v?08:52
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ssgt2002does anyone know the current iso md5sum for x86 install08:54
MadpilotRazor-X: yeah, there's that. you can't help some problems...08:54
indigo_i just installed the base system, rebooted, was watching everything else install, then fell asleep. I woke and i was at the gdm login screen. When was my root password set?08:55
indigo_actually....i don't really care when; i just want to know what it is.08:56
HrdwrBoBindigo_: it wasn't08:56
Agrajagit was not08:56
Madpilotssgt2002: md5sum info should be w/ whichever mirror you got the iso from?08:56
Razor-X!sudo08:56
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:56
Razor-Xthere you are08:56
Na_KunYou can create a root user :/08:56
hondjeIs there any mobo tests like there's memtest86 for ram, smartctl for hdds, etc?08:56
nickrudI do hate typos08:56
Razor-Xhondje: I believe so, google should turn up what you're looking for ;)08:57
indigo_my, this reminds me of os x08:57
nickrudindigo_ you mean, pretty :)08:57
indigo_no...the sudo thing08:57
spanglesontoasthow do I get quicktime08:58
spanglesontoast?08:58
spanglesontoastor play quicktime files08:58
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: I think w32codecs includes it08:58
indigo_you could have said "if you want root, first you have to start the netinfo manager..." and i would have believed you08:58
spanglesontoastah08:58
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: try xine-ui08:58
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Mafiis there any way to listen to aac files on beep media player or xmms?08:58
tiglionabbitMafi: I believe you need to install gstreamer0.8-faad08:59
tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-faad08:59
nickrudwhat is the new backports link again? I have the w32codecs from marillat (commented out currently, so no comments)08:59
Razor-Xindigo_: shame on you, you fell asleep during the Ubutnu install?08:59
Razor-XI was petrified with excitement ;008:59
Razor-X*;)08:59
Mafitiglionabbit, but does that file gstreamer give support for xmms?08:59
tiglionabbitMafi: it's in hoary extras, on a backports mirror09:00
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Razor-X(petrified yes, because if my dad caught me.......)09:00
tiglionabbitMafi: uh..  don't know for sure, but I think so09:00
jtan325who knows bash shell scripting a little bit?09:00
tiglionabbit!backports09:00
ubotu[backports]  at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/09:00
tiglionabbitjtan325: I do09:00
Razor-Xjtan325: there are tons of good tutorials out there09:00
tiglionabbitjtan325: I bet Razor-X knows a ton though09:00
MadpilotRazor-X: you thought your dad wouldn't notce that Windows had vanished?09:00
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: ;)09:00
Mafitiglionabbit, I think that the gstreamer add support for the music player in gnome09:00
nickrudMafi xmms has it's own mp3 support09:00
jtan325Razor-X, tiglionabbit, i am googling but sometimes google gets confused09:00
Razor-XMadpilot: no, I thought he may notice it's Linux, and then cut my head off ;)09:01
jtan325i want to know what the different options to the if statement in bash shell scripts can mean09:01
jtan325-x and -r specifically09:01
nickrudtiglionabbit thanks09:01
Mafinickrud, I have all my ipod collection in aac. i need to add aac support to beep media player or to xmms09:01
jtan325or if there is a reference card09:01
Razor-X!vlc09:01
ubotuRazor-X: Wish i knew09:01
jtan325that would be awesome09:01
Razor-Xeh!!!09:01
Razor-X!info vlc09:01
tiglionabbitRazor-X: give it one09:01
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB09:02
Razor-Xvlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support09:02
nickrudMafi off the cuff, I think gstreamer (used by rhythmbox) has faac support. I may be wrong, since I dont use an ipod.09:02
davidandkazhi guys09:02
Razor-Xubotu vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formatsbb and excellent streaming support09:02
ubotuRazor-X: okay09:02
davidandkazAny good software for linux?09:02
Mafinickrud, thatks. you migth be rigth09:02
jtan325Razor-X, do you know what the different options to "if statements" in bash mean?09:02
Razor-Xjtan325: embarrassingly, no09:02
absinthe_Any way to view a pie graph of hard drive space/free space ala windows?09:03
Razor-XI don't know Perl, Python, or BASH Scripting well enough to profess about them09:03
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Razor-Xand that's what I have left to learn for sysadminship09:03
tiglionabbitsay, how do I fastforward in xine-ui?09:03
llllllllllllllllDev<~~~~~~09:03
llllllllllllllllstill need help09:03
tiglionabbitoh, up/down09:03
Hikaru79Does anyone here know what's up with the "Ubuntu Java Project," if those repos are supposed to still be up?09:04
Razor-Xand some work with my emacs regular expressions09:04
davidandkazAny good free web development software for linux?09:04
Razor-XHikaru79: i've seen you before, Go person09:04
tiglionabbitHikaru79: you can get java using the method in my guide09:04
ssgt2002try nvu09:04
tiglionabbit!newusers09:04
ubotuwell, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers09:04
Razor-Xor... am I wrong?09:04
Razor-X;)09:04
jtan325davidandkaz, check out nvu and bluefish09:04
Hikaru79=) Hey, Razor-X !09:04
Hikaru79Nope, I remember you.09:04
Razor-Xheh, good09:04
llllllllllllllllstill cant get my internet to work =(09:04
Razor-XI had to go, and missed your PM09:04
tiglionabbitHikaru79: you need to add the hoary-extras backports mirror09:04
Razor-Xand yeah, months later, we meet again XD09:04
Hikaru79tiglionabbit, I know. The thing is, java project doesn't only have the j2se, it's got tons of neat java libraries, etc.09:05
davidandkazok, great09:05
Razor-XHikaru79: I can google you up some confirmation of that09:05
tiglionabbitHikaru79: it mentions j2sdk1.5 too09:05
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ssgt2002davidandkaz, try nvu it is a nice replacement for dreamweaever on linux09:05
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Hikaru79tiglionabbit, I'm not just talking about the sdk though. The Java project has things like JDBC drivers, JBoss, etc. Java-related apps and third-party libraries, not just development kits.09:05
khabalanyone know how to make a keylogger?09:05
ssgt2002it is supported by linspire09:06
tiglionabbitoh09:06
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llllllllllllllllUbuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux ...09:06
Hikaru79Which is why I think it's a neat idea, but on the front page the guy says server costs are on the rise and it was posted a month ago09:06
davidandkazI love dreamweaver....sounds good09:06
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davidandkazAnyone know why linspire is charging money for thier OS?09:07
ssgt2002does not support frames though check website09:07
Agrajagbecause they can09:07
Sn0wMan09:07
redtech!alternative09:07
uboturumour has it, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant09:07
spanglesontoastwhat's the best audio editing program apart from audacity?09:07
ssgt2002linspire is a nice os for people who just want linux to work09:07
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nickrud_I do hate dialup09:08
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jtgameoveroh man i am awesome09:08
jtgameovertiglionabbit, remember that stuff i was trying to ask about xsession?09:08
tiglionabbitjtgameover: yeah, what about it?09:08
jtgameoverwell i never figured that out, but i did come up with a workaround for openbox09:08
jtgameovermodeled after fluxbox09:09
davidandkazAs far as free goes, is ubuntu the most advanced "free" linux?09:09
jtgameoverbasically i put a wrapper script, "startopenbox"09:09
jtgameoverwhich looks for a user's openbox-startup file if it exists09:09
ssgt2002dont know have not installed yet09:09
nickrud_davidandkaz no, that would be debian09:09
jtgameoverand executes that if so09:09
ssgt2002debian is great09:09
ssgt2002if you have time09:09
jtgameoverand this startopenbox is what gets executed when i try to login with openbox09:10
jtgameoverinstead of just plain ol' openbox09:10
jtgameoverso yeah09:10
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devi need help09:10
davidandkazdebian?09:10
davidandkazThe most advanced?09:10
ssgt2002yes try it youll like it09:10
devdebains alright09:11
devit pissed me off tho09:11
redtechalternative to movie maker?09:11
ssgt2002dev what do need help with09:11
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devwell i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet, i use cable and i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu machine09:12
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devthe net never worked on my kubuntu machine I just got done installing it a couple of hours ago09:14
ssgt2002windows internet works though right09:14
devyeah im on it right now09:15
ssgt2002dhcp or static ip09:15
devi guess dhcp09:15
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Hikaru79I'm getting mixed reports. Some people tell me to use the backports repository to get the Sun Java JDK, and others tell me the warty-backports repos are the devil and I should rather sacrifice my firstborn than add it to sources.list ... anyone here can throw an objective light on the issue?09:16
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hondjeHikaru79: it won't kill you09:16
Xodushi there can anyone help me install java... on my machine?09:16
Xodusjvm09:17
Hikaru79hondje, not me, but what about my ubuntu install? =/09:17
hondjeHikaru79: a lot of us split our time with debian and are obsessed with being super bug free...backports are MORE buggy, but they're not going to kill you09:17
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Dr_Willishmm - thats detailed in the wiki's i think or the docs at the ubuntu site.09:17
Hikaru79Hm, I see.09:17
Hikaru79So they don't cause any obvious break-age with the ubuntu repos?09:18
Xodusahhh.. read thru that.... fallen dead lie.. i!! :D09:18
hondjeI can't imagine the java package causing problems though09:18
nickrud_ Hikaru79 while inside the directory you downloaded the jdk to, sudo apt-get install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jdk<tab>, sudo then dpkg -i sun<tab>09:18
IceDC571cyphase: hi09:18
devany of you guys came in no anything about configuring the net on kubuntu09:18
Xodusi tried sudo get jaca09:18
Xodusdidnt work09:18
Hikaru79nickrud, I know, I've used Debian. I was hoping for a cleaner way though.09:18
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IceDC571well there is #kubuntu09:18
nickrud_Hikaru79 there is no cleaner way :)09:18
hondjeThat's pretty much what they probably did to make the one you get from backports09:19
hondje:)09:19
Xodusbut there can be a clearer way :D09:19
Hikaru79nickrud, well, there's Ubuntu backports, and there *would* have been the Ubuntu Java Project if it hadn't been over-trafficed09:19
nickrud_clearer, yes :)09:19
hondjeovertrafficed?09:19
Hikaru79Yeah09:19
hondjeDefine, sir :)09:19
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Hikaru79Apparently the guy's repository was transfering like 5GB a day09:19
hondjeah09:19
nickrud_I've been against backports for a while, but I've seen people I trust ok it, so now ...09:19
IceDC571how could you be against backports?09:20
devdarn it09:20
devsomeone help me09:20
hondjebecause they (at least used to) ignore deps when building debs, among other things09:20
nickrud_IceDC571 because, I want a system that will dist-upgrade to breezy cleanly09:20
Hikaru79dev, what's wrong?09:20
devbefore i nija kick my pc out the window09:20
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hondjethey were just using deb-src to build pkgs09:21
IceDC571well Breezy isnt clean in the first place09:21
hondjeMight be different now, that particular guide isn't around anymore afaik09:21
Mestapheleshey all,09:21
nickrud_IceDC571 I'm talking about the October Breezy, not breezy today09:21
devHikaru79 i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet09:21
Hikaru79dev, router or no?09:21
Xodusdev: i tried that but ubuntu, brought me back to linux ;D09:22
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Xodusso dont kick an ubuntu pc09:22
Hikaru79dev, do you have a router or not?09:22
Mestaphelesdoes ubuntu support server upgrades?  I just upgraded from hoarty to hoary with a minimal install with X and I have a wack of deps being held back09:22
MestaphelesI've upgraded many times before on debian09:22
devHikaru79   i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu09:22
IceDC571get a switch instead of a hub... ouch09:23
Hikaru79In that case, dev, have you tried dhclient?09:23
Hikaru79Just type that in the command line: dhclient09:23
devsorry SWITCH09:23
devis not a hub09:23
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Hikaru79The router's the important part, hubs don't do DHCP so it doesn't matter.09:23
Hikaru79If you have a router, there's a good chance you need to do dhclient09:24
nickrud_Mestapheles I've run nothing but debian unstalbe since May 19, 2001, until I switched to ubuntu. I have found that I do like stable systems.09:24
Mestaphelesdebian unstable is stsable according to distro's standards09:25
nickrud_keeping logs can be fun :)09:25
devHikaru79 yes does a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 but it doesnt get anything saysno working leases in prsistent database- sleeping at the end of that09:25
Mestaphelesyou got to figure that they keep things back because a certain platform may have some hickups, not because the software necessarily is broken09:26
Hikaru79Hmm09:26
Hikaru79Do "ifconfig eth0"09:26
Hikaru79And paste output09:26
Hikaru79In #flood if its too long09:26
devok09:26
MestaphelesThe only issue I had with debian is sane only worked for me as root09:26
Mestaphelesand a accel freeze problem, but ubuntu had it too, and I gather reporting it did something to get it fixed09:27
Hikaru79Is the multiverse repository still deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse or is there a "hoary multiverse" ?09:27
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jasoncohenHikaru79, huh? hoary has a main restricted multiverse and universe just as warty does09:28
nickrud_I've always had one issue or another, but, usually it was my problem.09:28
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Hikaru79So "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse" exists?09:29
TR0Ni have problems getting ubuntu running. can someone help me in query?09:29
Mestaphelesright now with hoary, I've had several problems.  Periodic and momentary freezes on my ppc box (x86 is fine), and a multiseat install problem on one of them.09:30
Razor-Xhmmm...09:30
Mestaphelesdo tell, and someone might pitch in09:30
Razor-Xnevermind09:30
Mestaphelestron09:30
jasoncohenTR0N, ask here09:31
nickrud_Hikaru79, the 'beter orgainzed' vrsion of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles is usefull09:31
TR0Nfirst of all during setting up sth with xorg the installation process got stuck (computer didn't react to any input09:31
TR0Ni freshly installed the os - so i barely had the chance to do smth wrong on my own...09:32
ssgt2002how long is install supposed to take09:32
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nickrud_ssgt2002 less than an hour, for sure09:34
TR0Ni don't know how long it's supposed to be installing... but the website said smth like 20 minutes for a usual system?09:34
jasoncohenTR0N, setting up SSH with xorg? you mean after the install was finished09:34
jasoncohenubuntu only installs openssh-client by default09:34
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nickrud_I can imagine a very slow machine09:34
jcoxonmorning all09:35
TR0Ni burned the install cd and tried to install ubuntu. i only answered all the usual configuration dialogs about keyboard, langauage, network and so on...09:35
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IceGuest_5_I need some help, how do i coonfigure my dial up connection with ubuntu?09:35
IceGuest_5_I have a netscape accout?09:35
IceGuest_5_do i need to switch ISPS?09:35
TR0Nthe system booted but on the first start it unpacks several programs.09:36
IceDC571um... someone shoot me, i might switch to fedora09:36
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nickrud_IceDC571 use pppconfig, and use your usual phone number, username, and password. It should work.09:36
TR0Nso there it crashed.09:36
ilan_Which run level I need to switch to, for installing nvidia drivers?09:36
IceDC571nickrud_: wrong person, eh?09:36
IceGuest_5_but it wont even detect my modem!..09:36
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nickrud_IceDC571 heh, that was for IceGuest_5_09:37
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IceDC571hey we have two Ice's in here! :)09:37
IceGuest_5_lol09:37
ilan_again, how to exit X Windows, for being able to install nvidia drivers?09:37
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MForsterjoin #ubuntu09:37
TR0Nthe only thing that works properly is the rescue-kernel09:37
IceDC571MForster: we are in #ubuntu..09:38
IceDC571lol09:38
Tsukasa199ilan_, how about killall gdm?09:38
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devwelp i dont know why i can't get internet on kubuntu09:38
IceGuest_5_It wont even detect my modem..09:38
devmust been a retarted install or something09:38
Madpilotdoes anyone know if Nautilus will get better in breezy? Right now the file move system is worse than Win98, which ought to embarass some ppl...09:38
IceGuest_5_will i need to get a new modem?09:38
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Tsukasa199IceGuest_5_, probably not, just some instructions :)09:38
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  worse in what way? this is the first id ever heard of any problems with it09:39
IceGuest_5_instructions?09:39
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ssgt2002what is ubuntu based on09:39
nickrud_IceGuest_5_ if you have a winmodem, some instructions :)09:39
IceDC571ssgt2002: Debian09:39
tiglionabbitMForster: what do you mean, like how you can't use root with it?09:39
Tsukasa199IceGuest_5_, what kind of modem do you use?09:39
ssgt2002yeah i like it already09:39
MForsterDid i say anything?09:39
IceDC571MForster: you said join #ubuntu09:39
MadpilotDr_Willis: overwriting existing files. Win98 will give file size, date, etc for both, plus overwrite/skip options. Naut just asks if you want to overwrite or skip09:40
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MForstersorry. tpy09:40
IceDC571and i said i like ice cream09:40
MForsterdidn't want to :)09:40
IceGuest_5_Im not for sure, but i can see it in the device manager thing but it wont auto detect.09:40
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  windows also likes to ask other lame things then rants :P use mc for a file manager! like real men.09:40
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Krypt|cAnyone had issues where the default gateway keeps defaulting to ath0 from eth0?  Rather annoying :)09:40
ssgt2002dr_willis graphical is better09:40
IceDC571dont use a file manager, use the terminal09:40
Dr_Willisssgt2002,  Blasphmy!09:41
nickrud_IceGuest_5_ I can't really help with modern modems, I use an old serial type09:41
Dr_Willis:)09:41
MadpilotDr_Willis: I avoid CLI when possible...09:41
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: you mean in network-admin?  Yeah, that program sucks.  I don't touch it anymore09:41
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : that's about the only place I seem to be able to fix it.09:41
TR0Nafter rebooting i got a Segmentation fault error in grep --quiet on-line "${FN}/state"09:41
nickrud_Madpilot a man after my own heart ;)09:41
Madpilot... and this is one (small) area where Win really does do it better. Even back w/ Win98..09:41
tiglionabbitI hear in breezy they're going to make a much better network manager09:41
Tsukasa199Madpilot, why do you avoid it?09:41
Krypt|ctiglionabbit: ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 does nothin09:42
TR0Nand the last line i got was <7>eth0: no IPv6 routers present09:42
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: really?  they work for me09:42
MadpilotTsukasa199: because it's easier to see where I can screw up w/ GUI... :)09:42
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : heck, I even keep disabling ath0 in network-admin with no love.  It re-activates for some reason09:42
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: gotta use sudo, and have the package installed09:42
Tsukasa199hehe09:42
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : heh, yeah.  I do it as root.09:42
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: /etc/network/interfaces09:42
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: remove all the lines that have the word "auto" in them, or comment them out.  Then it wont do things automatically anymore09:43
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: except auto lo, leave that one09:43
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IceGuest_5_i use a ESS E556t-PI Date Fax Modem09:43
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : the only auto in there is for eth009:43
IceGuest_5_well thats what it says in device manager09:43
IceDC571you know how sudo can be bad?09:44
IceDC571say my friend uses a command with sudo09:44
TR0Nwell... i'll try to ask again later...09:44
IceDC571i go on his computer and type in sudo rm -rf /*09:44
jcoxonIceDC571, google it with the word linux09:44
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nickrud_IceDC571 and, do you know his password?09:44
Tsukasa199IceGuest_5_, does the modem get listed under System -> System administration -> network?09:45
tiglionabbitsudo stays active for 15 minutes09:45
IceDC571nah, he already used sudo 10 minutes before i got to the computer09:45
Tsukasa199IceGuest_5_, as "Modem Connection"09:45
nickrud_tiglionabbit :)09:45
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Madpilotis "sudo rm -rf /*" the equivilent of "format C:/*.*" in DOS? :)09:45
ssgt2002haha09:46
tiglionabbitMadpilot: it's the equivalent of "DELETE EVERYTHING"09:46
nickrud_*/tilt*?09:46
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IceDC571more like format C:\*.* /q /y09:46
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IceGuest_5_one second i have to run up and down the stairs lol09:46
Krypt|cor deltree :)09:46
IceDC571isnt deltree for DOS only?09:46
Tsukasa199nope09:46
MadpilotOK, thought so... one to avoid, then. Or sic on the irritating... :)09:47
nickrud_I'm sure someone wrote a linux equiv sometime09:47
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Krypt|cbbiab09:47
nickrud_just never give rm  the -f option, it'll save you a few times09:48
IceDC571i always use the force option :)09:48
IceDC571i dont know why09:48
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nickrud_me too, it's reflex09:48
nickrud_do as I say, not as I do :)09:48
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Madpilot-f = force = just do it, don't ask if I'm really sure? ;)09:49
nickrud_yup09:49
IceDC571omg09:49
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IceDC571ask if you're sure, thats a windows thing09:49
IceDC571linux just asks yes or no09:49
nickrud_rm -i09:49
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nickrud_something I've never used09:50
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IceDC571what's i?09:50
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tiglionabbitinteractive09:50
nickrud_interactive09:50
tiglionabbit"Are you sure you want to delete"09:50
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phanterhello, how can i change the application that is opening a file when double clicking a file (in gnome)09:50
IceDC571have you noticed everyone does tar ____ in a different combination?09:51
IceDC571i always use tar xvzf09:51
TokenBadis there a way to take and get a idea of how much space on a drive a set dir on that drive is taking up?09:51
tiglionabbitactually, it says "rm: remove this type of file `thefilename'?09:51
Tsukasa199phanter, right click on file -> properties -> open with09:51
nickrud_phanter right click the file, go to properties, then open with09:51
tiglionabbitIceDC571: yes, tar xvjf, for bzip and bzip209:51
phanterTsukasa199, yes, but I want to change the default application09:52
IceDC571hah.. i type xjvf09:52
ssgt2002love this ubuntu installer very nice09:52
Tsukasa199phanter, that should be possible that way09:52
tiglionabbitTsukasa199: yes, du -s09:52
tiglionabbiter, du -sh .09:52
nickrud_phanter that's how you determine the default app09:52
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IceDC571i just noticed this command09:53
IceDC571sensible-browser09:53
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qt2okay...09:53
IceDC571its neat, who else has noticed it?09:53
nickrud_IceDC571 a lovely one, isn't it09:53
tiglionabbitdu = disk usage, -s for summary (rather than telling you all the dirs inside it), -h for human readable (reports in megabytes and gigabytes instead of single bytes)09:53
qt2so setting up an icecast server seems really complicated :P09:53
IceDC571yeah09:53
devhmm 4am eating doritos being angery at kubuntu09:53
IceDC571icecast servers are always complicated09:53
nickrud_swap out any browser, one command09:54
devthis isnt a good life =(09:54
tiglionabbitsensible-browser launches konqueror for me.  What's sensible about that?09:54
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IceDC571dev: well, i dont know.. if so many people werent using dialup we wouldnt have so many problems09:54
IceDC571tiglionabbit: lol why do you have konqueror installed?09:54
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nickrud_tiglionabbit sudo update-alternatives --config sensible-browser, I think09:55
tiglionabbitIceDC571: because I have kubuntu-desktop installed09:55
Madpilotsensible-browser here launches FF. more FF propaganda... :)09:55
phanteri did open with and choose an other application, but after that, when double clicking on the file, it opened in an other program again (not in the one I want/selected)09:55
devIceDC571 i use cable and still cant get the net on kubuntu09:55
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nickrud_tiglionabbit s/sensible-browser/x-www-browser/09:55
devi gotta slug it out with windows09:55
tiglionabbitnickrud_: "no alternatives for sensible-browser.09:55
IceDC571dev: have you tried getting on the net with gnome?09:55
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devi hate gnome09:56
IceDC571sensible launched epiphany for me back when i had it, now it launches firefox09:56
IceDC571i love it09:56
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Tsukasagnome is awesome09:56
IceDC571dev: then why dont you go to #kubuntu?09:56
devi am09:56
devi cant get the net on that fucker09:56
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qt2IceDC571, icecast was easy to set up in windows...09:56
IceDC571qt2: welcome to the real world :)09:57
Tsukasai bet it's not that hard on linux too ;)09:57
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phanterthe problem is that  I do not want to use openoffice to open html documents, but an other program. Whatever I try OOo stays the default app10:00
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TsukasaIceDC571, don't dare to do so!10:00
IceDC571lol i love spying on other distro chats10:00
cyphase:)10:00
IceDC571they need help, i help them.. and i say, by the way.. i'm not using fedora10:01
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nickrud_phanter right click an html file, go to properties (at the bottome), and select open with (make sure the dot is on the prefferd app)10:01
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IceDC571cyphase: where were you?10:01
nickrud_why don't I have spell check in xchat :)10:02
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BelutzIceDC571: the different between ubuntu and kubuntu is only gnome and kde ?10:02
IceDC571Belutz: exactly10:02
Krypt|cHeh.10:02
BelutzIceDC571: which one do you prefer?10:02
IceDC571Belutz: gnome10:03
BelutzIceDC571: the reason?10:03
Krypt|cGnome is pretty good, although there are some kick butt kde apps as well.10:03
Krypt|cI used to be a windowmaker monkey when I was using debian10:03
Krypt|cI'm not terribly loyal to any desktop manager... as long as it works, I can install any needed apps10:04
BelutzKrypt|c: ic...10:04
IceDC571well.. even though gnome doesnt have all the apps, right now everything works perfectly, it recognizes all my hardware.. while kde may need a lot of configuring and caused a lot of problems for me10:04
IceDC571but kde is good10:04
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IceDC571it depends on you10:04
Krypt|cie, there's no reason why you couldn't install a KDE application and continue to use GNOME, or vice versa10:05
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cyphaseIceDC571, was that you sending me messages earlier?10:05
nickrud_For example, k3b10:05
spanglesontoastwasn't xfce released better this time?10:05
IceDC571cyphase: um i think so10:05
cyphaselol10:05
spanglesontoaston debian10:05
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cyphaseno, i mean a while ago10:05
IceDC571spanglesontoast: im using xfce right now actually and im loving it10:05
cyphasei was taking a nap, so i didn't see it10:06
Krypt|cNow if only they'd release the updated version of Nicotine...10:06
cyphase:)10:06
IceDC571cyphase: yeah10:06
Krypt|cThat'd make me happy.10:06
spanglesontoastNicotine is old?10:06
Krypt|cThe current version is broken to windows soulseek client10:06
Krypt|cor rather, the current version in Ubuntu10:06
jcoxonfluxbox/pogo combo is the best desktop manager :P10:06
IceDC571we need more girls in here!10:06
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IceDC571jcoxon: pogo?10:06
nickrud_pogo, I've not heard of that10:06
nailerpogo?10:06
BelutzIceDC571, Krypt|c: i don't know there is a kubuntu until recently... i just try the ubuntu live cd yesterday, and it detects all my laptop hadrdware, i wonder if kubuntu could do the same10:06
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jcoxonone sec i'll find a screenshot10:07
spanglesontoast!info pogo10:07
Krypt|cit's currently using 1.0.8rc1, and the current release is 1.0.810:07
spanglesontoast!pogo10:07
ubotuspanglesontoast: I don't know10:07
IceDC571lol.. well there you go10:07
spanglesontoastpongo?10:07
ubuntuhello10:07
Krypt|cBelutz : it should, yep10:07
IceDC571pogo-stick?10:07
ubuntuim a beginner here in linux10:07
Krypt|cBelutz : the hardware detection itself is done by the kernel which should be identical10:07
nickrud_ubuntu then, ask away10:08
BelutzKrypt|c: ic ic...10:08
ubuntuim using livecd. how do i access my c?10:08
spanglesontoastwhere is the nicotine version your using?10:08
jcoxonhere is really bad one http://japan.linux.com/userimages/sado/20040121-1.png10:08
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jcoxonpogo is sort of a launcher10:09
nickrud_huh, I don't use windows, so, maybe some one else has that one10:09
delltonycan someone look at this and explain to me why mplayer doesn't want to compile? http://pastebin.com/310406  or point me to a deb with libmp3lame enabled?10:09
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : Networking/Universe10:09
IceDC571heh.. mandrake, eh?10:09
jcoxonthats just where i found the screenshot10:09
jcoxonhehe10:09
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spanglesontoastah ty10:09
tiglionabbitdarn it, okay guys, I need help10:09
BelutzIceDC571: may i private message you?10:09
IceDC571IceDC571: sure10:09
IceDC571lol10:09
redtechhow can I change the power settings.  When I close the lid on my lapper to not turn off or hibernate?10:10
IceDC571Belutz: sure10:10
againstmecan someone please private message me and walk me through installing apps on ubuntu? thanks for the help.10:10
tiglionabbitthe only way I can get stuff to play correctly now is by opening it in firefox10:10
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nickrud_ubuntu if you don't get an answer soon, ask again10:10
jcoxonagainstme, its very easy use synaptic from the gnome menu10:10
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spanglesontoasthmm10:11
nickrud_tiglionabbit 'stuff'?10:11
spanglesontoastwhat servers do you know of krypt|c?10:11
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : for ubuntu or soulseek?10:11
GURTis there anyway i can get to a command line before gnome loads?10:11
spanglesontoastsoulseek10:11
ubuntuhello all: im using livecd. how do i access my c:? my documents?10:12
Hikaru79ubuntu, mount /dev/hda110:12
againstmesorry just found it10:12
tiglionabbitnickrud_: mainy .avi videos, but most formats of videos are doing it to me now10:12
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : server.slsknet.org10:12
spanglesontoastdo I have to register a username etc?10:12
jcoxonGURT, when you are about login change the session to terminal10:12
nickrud_GURT you can hit alt-ctl-f1 any time after the screen goes black during the boot10:12
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : yep10:12
spanglesontoastkk10:12
tiglionabbitMy problem is, every media player on my computer SUDDENLY totally screws up the brightness and contraste on my video files.  Why did they all suddenly start doing this?10:13
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : the really odd thing is that other linux/nicotine clients can browse my files just fine, but browsing from a windows soulseek client results in an error10:13
GURTand then i can do apt-get such and such?10:13
nickrud_tiglionabbit I'll back off on that one, I just use mplayer, and so far, so good :)10:13
ChurcHanyone seen Kamping_Kaiser this morning?10:13
spanglesontoastah10:13
tiglionabbitnickrud_: mplayer is doing it too10:13
spanglesontoastwhere do i register for that server?10:14
ubuntuthanks10:14
GURTthis is a post reguarding what i'm trying to do --> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=112192310:14
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : should be able to do it from within nicotine itself10:14
againstmeafter i load synaptic, my package doesnt show up in the menu10:14
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : just choose a username/pass.  If you get login errors in the status window, choose a different nickname10:15
tiglionabbitI first noticed the problem in xine-ui playing quicktem, then gxine playing avi, then totem-xine playing avi, then vlc playing avi, then totem-xine playing realmedia and quicktime, then all of my media players playing all formats10:15
Krypt|cagainstme : which package?10:15
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againstmea firewall package i believe10:16
nickrud_GURT that link is a bit too top level, which one should I look at :)10:16
ssgt2002how do I set my root password on a new ubuntu system10:16
spanglesontoastthe connect button is faded out10:16
tiglionabbitssgt2002: you don't need root, use sudo10:16
tiglionabbit!sudo10:16
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:16
Krypt|cagainstme : any particular firewall package?10:16
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againstmefirestarter and its a .tar10:16
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spanglesontoastah10:17
spanglesontoastdw10:17
Krypt|cagainstme : you can use the search function along the top... firestarter is listed in synaptec10:17
spanglesontoastwhat can i download?10:17
nickrud_againstme I may have mis understood, but why aren't you getting firestarter as deb from ubuntu?10:17
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : whatcha mean?10:18
spanglesontoastis it a legal thing10:18
spanglesontoastor everything10:18
againstmei just downloaded that as a test file to try and understand how to install files under ubuntu10:18
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : it's primarily used for music sharing, but you can also search for pictures and avi's and the like10:18
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : everything10:18
nickrud_ubotu tell againstme about components10:18
nickrud_ubotu tell againstme about repositories10:19
Madpilotagainstme: firestarter is in Ubuntu's repos. you don't need a .tar.10:19
spanglesontoastwhy hasn't it been stopped?10:19
Krypt|cagainstme : It's best to use the ubuntu supplied packages available in the Synaptec Package Manager10:19
ChurcHubotu morning10:19
spanglesontoastlike breaking the law etc10:19
ubotuChurcH: I don't know, could you explain it?10:19
ChurcHO_O10:19
Krypt|cspanglesontoast : no idea... probably not enough users on it to make it worthwhile compared to torrents and the like10:19
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spanglesontoastcheers for that mate well I'll prob be back going to grab some toast :D10:20
IceGuest_5_Guest_580> how do i get the modem to dial ... once i get the configuration set up?10:20
IceGuest_5_[04:21]  <Guest_580> or does it do it automatically?.10:20
nickrud_againstme that is the best way to install files on ubuntu10:20
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againstmeok but say i want to download something that isnt in synaptic10:21
Madpilotagainstme: grab the .deb version if you can...10:22
tiglionabbitagainstme: first make sure you've checked if it's in some repository you haven't listed.  If there's no suitible repository, grab a .deb and dpkg --install it10:22
Belutzanyone can recommend a book about linux that a newbie should read or as a reference?10:22
nickrud_againstme then, I'd point you at ubuntuguide, but I'm not supposed to, until it's fixed10:22
Krypt|cThen you would download and uncompress the package you want, and follow the instructions in the README or INSTALL files that are usually included10:22
Krypt|cBelutz : The Linux Cookbook10:22
againstmeok and then unpack the .deb file and......10:22
tiglionabbitBelutz: I think you should start by reading a unix manual, like http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf10:22
Krypt|cBelutz : It's actually written with debian examples10:22
egi!ubuntuguide10:22
nickrud_againstme no, no need to unpack10:23
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:23
tiglionabbitBelutz: then read the Rute Users Guide, and The Linux Cookbook, and there are a few other good ones10:23
tiglionabbit!newusers10:23
ubotuI heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers10:23
nickrud_if you have a good deb, then, sudo dpkg -i <deb> will install the deb.10:23
ssgt2002how do I setup a passwd for root so I can do stuff in a newly installed ubuntu system10:23
BelutzLinux cookbook is from o'reilly if i'm not mistaken?10:23
againstmeim trying to download a newsreader and i got the deb package but i can get it to run10:23
pepsixhows breezy doing?10:23
nickrud_rute is excellent10:24
Krypt|cNope, it's from No Starch10:24
Belutzok10:24
Krypt|cBelutz : http://www.nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=lcbk10:24
IceGuest_5_how do i connect my dial up connection10:25
nickrud_againstme probably, whatever news reader you have, is available as a package from ubuntu.10:25
IceGuest_5_i did pon10:25
IceGuest_5_it did nothing10:25
IceGuest_5_:-\10:25
IceGuest_5_:-\10:25
nickrud_read those links I posted to you thru ubotu10:25
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rsshi, i have got few ringtones in .dat format... what application do I use to play them?10:25
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redtechhow can I change my power settings.  When I close the lid on my laptop to not turn off or hibernate?10:25
rssmplayer does not play them10:26
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whiprushredtech: look in /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn10:26
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whiprushyou probably want to change lid.sh to sleep.sh in the action line10:26
rssabout ,dat audio files...10:27
redtechwhiprush, do I need to restart something after editing?10:27
whiprushredtech: I think so, probably acpid10:28
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redtechi just saw that.  thanks10:28
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Madpilotodd... the Linux book I've got has *nothing* on dpkg in the index... when as dpkg/Debian created?10:29
Madpilot*was10:29
egirss: my best guess is to try to recognize the .dat format by #file <filename>.dat10:30
nickrud_Madpilot i think, 199310:30
Madpilotnickrud_: this book is pub. 2000. should have something... oh well, it was free from a friend...10:30
egithen probably we know what application to open10:31
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nickrud_Madpilot some people think that if it isn't rpm ...10:31
BeatYouheyy10:31
BeatYouhas anyone ever tripped on DXM before10:31
GURTnickrud_: sorry.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2541310:31
BeatYoufrom cough syrupt10:31
Krypt|cMadpilot : Most linux books have this odd idea that Redhat = Linux.10:32
Krypt|cIt annoys those of us who know better :)10:32
BeatYoui extracted DXM from vicks 44 into a salt and mixed it in with 7 up10:32
BeatYouand omg, tripping balls10:32
GURThow do you extract dxm from vicks?10:33
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BeatYouboil it10:33
egi#extract vicks.tar.gz10:33
egi:D10:33
GURThah10:33
IceDC571lol what a command10:33
vladuz976hi i run fluxbox on ubuntu, anyone know how to add applications to the startup? what file do i need to configure, i thought it's .xsession in home i can't find it10:33
Madpilothe, there's about eight index entries for RPM...10:33
IceDC571do we need to learn how to extract again, kids?10:33
nickrud_I hate getting called on hard ones ;010:34
Madpilotguess I need to cough up for one of the O'Reilly books...10:34
GURTthats a hard one?10:34
BeatYouhttp://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/dxmextra.html10:34
IceDC571or are we still using the Kids Desktop Environment?10:34
GURTdid we ever?10:34
BeatYouthis is only a 2nd platue trip though, im kind of disappointed10:34
BeatYouno visuals10:34
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nickrud_GURT well, from my perspective right now, yes, maybe tomorrow it'll be a 'doh'10:35
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ColonelKernelhmm10:35
ColonelKernelanyone reading me?10:35
BeatYounah10:35
Krypt|cNope.10:35
IceDC571ColonelKernel: are you a good book?10:35
ColonelKernelnice10:35
ColonelKernelthanks10:36
BeatYouanybody live in canda10:36
Krypt|cBeatYou : yep10:36
IceDC571i wish.. i love Canada :)10:36
ColonelKernelgot centos as my server and ubuntu as my desktop10:36
Krypt|cBeatYou : about 33 million last count.10:36
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BeatYouKrypt|c you live in BC ?10:36
BeatYouthat famous BC bud10:36
BeatYoui want10:36
Krypt|cAlberta10:36
BeatYoui got a guy up in BC that ships me bud buy the 1/4oz.10:37
Krypt|cheh, BC bud is world famous10:37
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Krypt|cwb tiglionabbit10:37
MadpilotBeatYou: I'm in BC. no bud, sorry...10:37
tiglionabbitthat's bizarre.  I can run totem even when only totem-gstreamer is installed, but totem isn't10:37
GURTdrugs are kick-ass10:37
BeatYouMadpilot im sorry dude10:38
MadpilotBeatYou: I stay away from that stuff. it doesn't work on me anyway, so I stick with beer!10:38
GURTanyone ever make black tar heroien out of a pen cap and a tooh pick?10:38
BeatYouhahha10:38
tiglionabbit!info totem10:38
BeatYoui stared at a fish tank for the past 2 hours on DXM10:38
ubotutotem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB10:38
tiglionabbitah, it's a dummy package10:38
Krypt|cye gads, did I join #narcotics when I wasn't looking?10:38
IceDC571haha its a dummy package!10:39
nickrud_tiglionabbit totem is a meta package, it depends on -gstreamer or -xine10:39
IceDC571that proves why you can run it with only totem-gstreamer instealled10:39
BeatYouoh fuck10:39
tiglionabbityes it does10:39
BeatYouwhy isn't this illegal ?10:39
BeatYouwho knew over the counter drugs could be so amazing10:39
tiglionabbitbut it still doesn't tell me why TOTEM SCREWS UP ALL MY MEDIA PLAYERS.10:39
nickrud_lol10:39
Krypt|cI've never liked Totem...10:40
IceDC571tiglionabbit: because you have K-this and K-that10:40
nickrud_I've liked looking at totem ...10:40
tiglionabbitif I EVER run Totem, any media player I launch after it has its same screwed up state until I kill X10:40
tiglionabbitIceDC571: what?10:40
GURTever hear about that kid on IRC that told everyone he ate shrooms10:40
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Krypt|cI've had enough problems with various media players and shiznit I actually bought Office Crossover10:40
Krypt|cWorks great.10:40
IceDC571tiglionabbit: nevermind... i think im on drugs10:40
GURTand then jumped on a police car10:40
GURTand got shot by the police10:40
NinwaThat was fucking weird.10:40
BeatYouhaha10:40
BeatYouwhat an idiot10:40
qt2IceDC571, icecast was easy to set up in windows...10:41
NinwaGnome just randomly kicked me to the login screen.10:41
NinwaIt locked up, the screen went weird, and then login screen.10:41
NinwaThat's not normal.10:41
IceDC571qt2: heh.. are you progressing?10:41
tiglionabbitwell, I'll be restarting AGAIN because of stupid totem10:41
Xoduslife is not normal either.. hehe10:41
nickrud_whoa, I've done a lot of killall mplayer totem-etc, I've never had to kill X10:41
NinwaAnyone have that happen to them before?10:41
tiglionabbitI can't believe it's doing tihs now, and I can't figure out why it would10:41
Xodusanyone... knows how to get a better resolution out of gnome for a a geforce?10:41
BeatYouim all about the closed source10:41
Tsukasatiglionabbit, tried to replace totem with totem-xine? ^^10:41
BeatYousoftware patents10:42
GURThttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=irc+shrooms+died+Dan+Bucci&btnG=Search10:42
ompaulI hate it when you cut and paste a directory name and it has a space in it, thus a program which wants to use it does not pop in the \ before the space and it looks like something other than the command line is wrong :-/10:42
rob^has anyone had problems with Thunderbird crahsing lately?10:42
tiglionabbitTsukasa: yes, I have tried totem-gstreamer and totem-xine, and they are both giving me the same problems now10:42
Coyctecmhmm10:42
tiglionabbitTsukasa: it was totem-xine that was giving me the problems in the first place10:42
GURTi ahven't rob10:42
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Tsukasahmm10:42
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Krypt|crob^ : nope, but I find I have to kill firefox every few days because it turns into a huge hog.10:42
nickrud_solution: no spaces anywhere :)10:42
=== BeatYou what do you guys this about this site im mkaing for a friends band - http://hxc.ath.cx:81/~beatyou/forest/forestelliot.html
Belutz!info xine10:43
tiglionabbitthis problem developed really slowly, but now it effects all kinds of totem10:43
rob^Krypt|c, yeah not wrong10:43
tiglionabbitgxine has the same problem as totem-gstreamer and totem-xine are showing me right now, only it doesn't spread to other media players10:43
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=== BeatYou wants feedback
TsukasaBeatYou, I'm all about open source since I know of these very charming facts: http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf10:43
BelutzIceDC571: what email client in ubuntu that can use gnupg ?10:44
XodusBeatYou, not bad10:44
rob^stuff it its segfaulting10:44
resiakBelutz: mutt, evolution10:44
rob^bugzilla here I come10:44
Xoduspretty cool...10:44
Krypt|cEvolution is the shiznit.10:44
resiakBelutz: thunderbird, and so on.10:44
=== BeatYou also made this one recently - http://inkillingtime.com/ - feedback?
Belutzresiak: ok, thx :)10:44
Krypt|cevolution is also capable of checking exchange servers10:44
resiakBelutz: IOW just about any mail client10:45
nickrud_Belutz evolution is reasonably capable with gpg, (your config) and so can mutt (your neck :)10:45
Krypt|cany client that can check the variety of mail servers that evolution does wins in my book10:45
Belutzanyone tried yahoo messenger for linux?10:45
Krypt|cI actually I can't think of any other client that checks as many, even for windows10:45
Krypt|cBelutz : once or twice... I prefer using gaim for yahoo/msn/icq10:45
nickrud_O10:46
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delltonyspeaking of evolution can it parse gmail?10:46
nickrud_I've been using evo since .8 (not a brag, just a statement of satisfaction)10:46
Xodushmmm anyone, anyone who knows to get a better resolution outta ubuntu, am goin crazy on this 1024.768resolution!!!10:46
IceDC571anything can parse gmail10:47
Krypt|cdelltony : yep10:47
delltonywell i don't know abot that cause they changed there login thing cause firefox wasn't able to login with their extention so it had to be modified10:47
delltonythats why i asked about evolutioin10:47
delltonyi will give it a try10:47
Krypt|cdelltony : I use it to collect 3 gmail accounts, 2 pop accounts and 3 imap accounts10:47
Belutzi'm hungry :(10:47
Xodushmmm anyone, anyone who knows to get a better resolution outta ubuntu, am goin crazy on this 1024.768resolution!!!??? :(10:48
delltonyok good deal thanks10:48
Krypt|cBelutz : I recommend pizza to resolve that dependency :)10:48
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IceDC571Xodus: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:48
BelutzKrypt|c: hahaha...10:48
BelutzKrypt|c: what time is it at your place?10:49
Krypt|cssgt2002:5110:49
Krypt|cargh10:49
Krypt|cit's 2:5110:49
Belutz2:51 AM ?10:49
ColonelKernel /dns 205.171.3.6510:49
Krypt|cyep10:49
Tsukasaapt-get dist-pizza10:49
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BelutzKrypt|c: not sleepy yet?10:50
GobfreyI'm having problems installing a program10:50
Gobfreycan anyone give me a little help?10:50
ompaulTuskasa you may want to get the more-toppings package with that10:50
Krypt|cBelutz : getting there... I drank a pot of french pressed fresh ground coffee at 10pm though...10:50
BelutzTsukasa: we can order pizza using apt-get? hehehehe10:50
tiglionabbitGobfrey: sure, what are you trying to install?10:50
BelutzKrypt|c: ic... hehehe it's 15:50 in here10:50
Gobfreyhugin, a photo stitching program10:51
Krypt|clol10:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat was odd10:51
Belutzhaven't had my lunch10:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o10:51
Gobfreytiglionabbit, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46810:51
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Belutzit's hard to move my ass when i'm in #ubuntu10:51
tiglionabbitoh..  dunno10:52
nickrud_Hey, Church10:52
Belutzand i haven't start my coding too... *doh*10:52
tiglionabbitgrr, ima restart X again, brb10:52
z|banditohow do you chroot sftp logins?10:52
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Krypt|cz|bandito : http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html10:53
Krypt|cGIYF :)10:53
HappyFoolGobfrey: is the program installed, otherwise?10:54
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nickrud_So, Church, you have a website?10:54
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HunchhI ALL10:55
MadpilotI'm off to sleep. Later, all.10:56
tristan_Hello10:56
tristan_I have a little problem with the use of irc on Ubuntu10:56
tristan_Shall I expose my trouble.....?10:56
johnnybezakyeah10:56
overtureis there an elegant way to pipe into bzip2? i want to create a compressed file that summaries a directory (i.e. du -ha | bzip2 -9 > fooFile , but that works)10:56
overturetristan_, sure10:57
nickrud_this is the place for troubles :)10:57
tristan_I try to connect to rizon10:57
HunchDoes anyone know how to change the password to the keyring?10:57
tiglionabbitoverture: if you say `command` it returns the stdout of that command instead10:57
tiglionabbitI mean executes the standardout..  no, that's not what you want10:57
tristan_It says Looking up irc.rizon.net10:57
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gotonpowhat's everyone's favorite gui ftp client?10:57
HappyFooloverture: what's the problem? that looks ok to me10:57
tiglionabbitgotonpo: nautilus?10:57
tristan_and it says : Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?10:57
ssgt2002kbear10:57
Krypt|cgotonpo : gftp works10:58
tristan_But I am quite sure that it is irc.rizon.net10:58
nickrud_gtp, what else :)10:58
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gotonpowow, nautilus is capable of ftping? i have a lot to lear.10:58
tiglionabbittristan_: irc.rizon.net is up and working.  Uhh, what client?10:58
gotonpon.10:58
johnnybezaktristan_: thats not right, I just tried pinging irc.rizon.net and it didn't work10:58
overtureholy crap, that worked10:58
tristan_X-chat10:58
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gotonpoi'm trying to transfer a large directory in gftp.. and it just hangs up on "loading directory"10:59
overtureHappyFool, not sure what i was doing before, but i couldnt get it to work =p10:59
tiglionabbitokay, I removed all configuration files for totem.  Now, I'm going to be brave and install this thing again...10:59
sexcopter8000mcan anyone recommend an irc client for me?10:59
johnnybezakgotonpo: you can use nautilus can't you?10:59
overtureguess its just a 4am thing..10:59
Krypt|csexcopter8000m : bitchx10:59
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BelutzHappyFool: hai... nice to see u again :D10:59
johnnybezaksexcopter8000m: xchat or irssi10:59
gotonpojohnnybezak: i thought nautilus was just the file browser.. i'm extremely new10:59
HappyFoolhi Belutz :)10:59
tristan_OK. It worked now10:59
sexcopter8000mok thanks10:59
tiglionabbitgotonpo: you can use it for ftp, ssh, and smb as well I believe11:00
tristan_After I had pinged the server it worked11:00
johnnybezakgotonpo: i think you can use nautilus too11:00
tiglionabbitgotonpo: it can also burn things to a cd or dvd11:00
gotonpowow!11:00
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gotonpothat's really nice.11:00
tiglionabbitmmhmm11:00
znhwoah..11:00
johnnybezakgotonpo: sure is, nautilus is sweet11:00
johnnybezakgotonpo: just enter ftp://ftp.server.org in the address bar in nautilus11:01
znhI just styled my xfce4 a bit, check it out: http://isl33t.net/pics/xfce4-3.jpg11:01
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tristan_By the way. When I was using Windows (I changed for Ubuntu yesterday ^^) I was able to use a firewire network11:01
GobfreyhappyFool: it's installed, but it doesn't run.  The error message is  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/46711:01
tristan_Is it still possible and simple to set up on Ubuntu knowing that it would be to set up a network between one computer running on Windows and the other one on Linux11:02
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nickrud_gotonpo nautilus is sweet, try places->Connect to sever11:02
johnnybezaktristan_: unsure google it11:02
nickrud_gotonpo nautilus is sweet, try places->Connect to server :)11:02
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tristan_Well I googled it and I have only seen things about recompiling Ubuntu Kernel so...11:03
tristan_That would be too difficult for me11:03
gotonpohot damn. nautilus IS sweet! this is working better than gftp for sure11:03
gotonponickrud_: i'll try that :) thanks11:03
johnnybezaktristan_: hmm yeah probably :)11:03
gotonpogott atry the burning functions too11:03
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qt2IceDC571, not at all... eh. :(11:04
nickrud_tristan_ if someone is saying 'recompile ubuntu kernel'11:04
nickrud_walk away11:04
sexcopter8000mand what about a good email client, can anyone recommend me one?11:04
HappyFoolGobfrey: try this: 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib hugin'11:04
znhsexcopter8000m: eh nice nickname.. well thunderbird is awesome to me :)11:04
johnnybezaksexcopter8000m: i use thunderbird11:04
sexcopter8000myeah i quite like taht too11:04
HappyFoolGobfrey: i *think* /usr/loca/lib is not in the lib path by default11:04
johnnybezaksexcopter8000m: from the mozilla project11:04
nickrud_evolution11:04
tiglionabbitsexcopter8000m: thunderbird, ximian evolution, but I just use gmail11:04
gotonpohm. i just got an error "Invalid parameters" when copying blahblahblah when trying to ftp with nautilus. :(11:04
CrutonmanAre any of you familiar with the nvidia drivers?11:04
johnnybezaksexcopter8000m:  or then there is evolution11:04
Gobfreywow, it works11:04
znhyea11:05
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gotonpoRetry yields the same error again and again11:05
GobfreyHappyFool: thanks11:05
CrutonmanAfter I Installed the Nvidia drivers and switched off the stock "nv" All my applications font sizes went way up11:05
GobfreyHappyFool: now how do I make it work without typing in the library first?11:05
tristan_OK. So I will wait someone make it available in Ubuntu11:05
sexcopter8000min windows with thunderbird emails i sent from my uni account kept saying from my gmail account11:05
sexcopter8000mwhich was weird11:05
HappyFoolGobfrey: if that works, you can add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and run... um. ldconfig (as root -- 'sudo ldconfig')11:05
tiglionabbitCrutonman: yes, nvidia drivers have their own ways of controlling fonts11:05
sexcopter8000mbut i quite fancy trying thunderbird again11:05
johnnybezaktristan_: try filing a feature request or a bug report after you have had a good look around11:05
HappyFoolGobfrey: take a look at 'man ldconfig'11:06
Crutonman\11:06
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gotonpolooks like it may be a single file causing the error..11:06
gotonpothis channel moves too fast11:06
gotonpoaaaah11:06
gotonporgh11:06
CrutonmanHeh.11:06
Krypt|cyeah, the scroll factor is pretty high11:06
Krypt|cheh11:06
znhgotonpo: compensate by reading faster 8-|11:06
gotonpoznh: hehehe11:06
nickrud_tristan_ I've pretty much got by with that attiutde for several years. The people doing the work usually know what's wrong.11:06
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Gobfrey/usr/local/lib is already in there11:06
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markushi guy's how to login with root in KDE ?11:07
tristan_That's just I am very new to Linux.11:07
HappyFoolGobfrey: maybe ldconfig hasn't been run by 'make install' if it bailed after the 'update-desktop-*' error thing11:07
HappyFoolGobfrey: try 'sudo ldconfig' and then 'hugin'11:07
tiglionabbitmarkus: use sudo11:07
tiglionabbit!sudo11:07
ubotusomebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:07
tiglionabbitmarkus: you don't need a root login11:07
tristan_I will try to set up a network using ethernet between my two computers. I think it will be easier11:08
marcreichelthi there11:08
nickrud_tristan_ wellcome.11:08
tristan_Anyway, thanks for the help11:08
gotonpohi marcreichelt !11:08
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : ya know, I've never figured out that approach by ubuntu...11:08
johnnybezaktristan_: it probably will be11:08
tristan_At least I know I may have to ping rizon before being able to connect11:08
Krypt|cthat whole use sudo instead of su to root11:08
GobfreyHappyFool:  Thanks very much...  It works now11:08
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johnnybezaktristan_: if the network is down obviously you cant join it :P11:09
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: well, it is considered bad practice in any distro to login to the xserver as root11:09
HappyFoolGobfrey: np ;)11:09
ateveswhat default font and size do you guys use?11:09
xinelhehe11:09
atevesfor gnome11:09
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marcreicheltdoes anybody know how I can automatically switch of the PC after shutdown?11:09
Krypt|cyeah, but it makes things rather inconvenient for us CLI monkeys <g>11:09
xinelmoving into experimental packages again11:09
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: they frown apon it, but don't disallow you from doing it.  So, ubuntu just made their default settings not bother with it, so..11:09
xinel:P11:09
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tiglionabbitKrypt|c: hows that?  Just sudo -s, it's the same thing as su11:09
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tiglionabbitKrypt|c: if anything, it's harder for the gui users, because they want their sudo nautilus11:10
Krypt|cit's longer to type <g>11:10
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tiglionabbitKrypt|c: then make an alias, sheesh11:10
xinelI think sudo is meant to be more secure11:10
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xinel???11:10
Krypt|c*snicker*11:10
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againstmecan someone show me how to install a non deb app?11:10
gotonponickrud_: i've never changed the ROOT password.. would.. that be wise?11:10
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: alias su="sudo -s"11:10
tiglionabbitviola11:10
guerreroagainstme: alien11:10
gotonponickrud_: or is it safe not ever having used root?11:10
HappyFoolnickrud_: i think the idea is possibly protection from self. if you actually login as root, it is easy to do inadvertent damage11:10
nickrud_gotonpo i quote 'change passwords regularly"11:11
gotonpoheheh11:11
tiglionabbitthere's also the fact that it's very difficult to get any sort of virus or spyware if you don't run as root11:11
HappyFoolnickrud_: but, if you're logged in as a user always, you need to add 'sudo' to do root-like things, so less chance of total breakage11:11
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guerreroit certainly forces of you to think of everything you do as root as something special when you have to type sudo11:11
markusican't autologin with my kde11:11
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markusit say pass wrong\11:11
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nickrud_and, I have used sudo for years, ubuntu's policy is not new11:11
tiglionabbitmarkus: maybe it is wrong11:11
markusno11:11
markusit's true11:11
marcreicheltgotonpo, do you know anything of why my PC does not automatically switch off after shutdown?11:11
amittphey anyone has idea how to get "fop n transform" utillties for xml11:11
tiglionabbit=P11:11
markusthe pass 12311:12
markushow come ??11:12
HappyFoolamittp: what on earth are those?11:12
gotonpomarcreichelt: i do not. :(11:12
tiglionabbitmarcreichelt: power handling, yeah, people sometimes have that problem11:12
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HostingGeekAustralian Association Against Acronym Abuse - AAAAA11:12
guerreromarcreichelt check your bios and make sure you are supporting ACPI rev11:12
tiglionabbitmarcreichelt: it has something to do with the configuration for acpi or some power thingy11:12
marcreichelttiglionabbit, where are the solutions for those power handlings?11:13
amittpHappyFool, command line utils to convert xml to svg11:13
HappyFoolamittp: try 'apt-cache search fop xml' -- i get some hits, but i have no idea if they're valid11:13
marcreicheltguerrero, ACPI is activated11:13
guerrerocheck you bios first11:13
Krypt|cI've always disallowed remote root, and never use X as root.11:13
marcreicheltI'm using a notebook by ASUS11:13
guerreroah11:13
markusany help for me ?11:13
guerrerohave you tried shutting down from a live cd or other os?11:13
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cyphaseomg11:14
markusincorect password try again :(11:14
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: they probably figured it was a good idea to disallow logging in to X as root, and since most ubuntu users are gui people, why bother them with having them create a second password?11:14
cyphaseit just registered for me..11:14
marcreicheltguerrero, suse and gentoo worked11:14
HappyFoolmarkus: if you don't get an answer here, try perhaps in #kubuntu? (you are using kde, right?)11:14
markusyup11:14
cyphasepeople say Linux is a *nix system, but it's spelled Linux, not Linix11:14
cyphaselol11:14
againstmeok so i have the alien.tar package, what do i do with it now?11:14
cyphasei *just* realized11:14
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : heh, because having a root password is good.11:14
tiglionabbitcyphase: that's because it's based on Unix, Minix, and Multics11:15
cyphaseyea, i know11:15
znhDo you guys like my XFCE4 styles and such? http://isl33t.net/pics/xfce4-3.jpg Please give me some suggestions to make it even nicer11:15
cyphaseit's weird that i just realized it though11:15
tiglionabbitKrypt|c: why, what purpose does it serve?11:15
amittpHappyFool, nope :(11:15
cyphasei've been using Linux since..11:15
cyphasehmm..11:15
cyphasewell, a while11:15
gotonpohow many here recommend firewall software?11:15
ssgt2002none11:15
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Krypt|ctiglionabbit : I'd just see more value in strictly enforcing good passwords by default11:15
tiglionabbitoh, I just realized something a root password could help you with!11:15
cyphaselol11:15
znhgotonpo: a hardware firewall is recommended11:15
cyphaseyea11:15
ateveshi! on my gnome desktop all folder and filenames are shown complete, but some are very long. can i shorten them so that the whole name is shown after hovering or focussing?11:16
gotonpoznh: i have a linksys router w/ firewall.. do i need more than that?11:16
tiglionabbitwhat if you have multiple admin users, and one of them edits you out of the sources.list!  rofl11:16
cyphasei missed the "software" part11:16
cyphasegotnopo, no11:16
gotonpoexcellent.11:16
tiglionabbitI mean the sudoers list11:16
tiglionabbitblah11:16
nickrud_tiglionabbit the current required use of a root password is in web based administration11:16
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tiglionabbitnickrud_: what?  how11:16
IceDC571im done helping someone11:16
znhgotonpo: If your on linux, not really.. only if your going to run some much used ftp server or something like that in the server would bla bla.. i'm talking too many sorry11:16
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Krypt|ctiglionabbit : phpmyadmin would be a good example11:17
HappyFoolamittp: sorry, i don't have any other ideas. maybe 'apt-cache search xml' or 'apt-cache search svg', but those both give lots of hits11:17
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gotonpoznh: no.. that helps me understand. thanks11:17
Krypt|ctiglionabbit : I suspect webmin might be similar11:17
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nickrud_tiglionabbit try using cups admin (:631) without a root password11:17
znhgotonpo: hehe glad :)11:17
tiglionabbitnickrud_: using how?11:17
whiprushnickrud_: add the user to the lpadmin group.11:17
paxhmm how many of you ubuntu users know you are owned by 'default'?11:17
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Xodus:D11:17
Krypt|clol pax11:17
IceDC571pax: what?11:17
IceDC571oh11:18
gotonpopax: not me :)11:18
gotonpopax: what do you mean?11:18
HappyFoolagainstme: how did you get this file?11:18
Krypt|cWell I'm pretty sure I wasn't pwned by default :)11:18
paxlast -d (in console and watch who owns you)11:18
gotonpohm.11:18
nickrud_whiprush first of all, you cannot use :631 without adding cupsys to shadow (as best I know)11:18
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marcreichelttiglionabbit, I have "acpi" and "acpid" installed11:18
znhHmm I'd like to play Enemy-Territory (and mods..) and to use teamspeak at the same time, but (ofcourse) it would block each other cuz I don't have hardware mixing.. does anyone know a solution for this - ?11:19
nickrud_then, you have to have a root password, a sudo password will not work11:19
Krypt|cpax : err, what are you on about?11:19
tiglionabbitmarcreichelt: I can't tell you anything specific about it, because I haven't messed with it myself11:19
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whiprushnickrud_: I just added my user to the lpadmin group. *shrug*11:19
marcreichelttiglionabbit, but I don't find any config files in etc11:19
overtureznh, can't get a sound card11:19
marcreichelttiglionabbit, ah ok11:19
marcreicheltsorry11:19
overture?*11:19
lcoreHowto check exit code of the last bash command?11:19
znhoverture: - ?11:19
gotonpomy user's password works for sudo..11:19
HappyFoollcore: echo $?11:19
gotonpois that unusual?11:19
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HappyFoollcore: well, $?   --- echo $? will just show it11:20
overtureznh, a decent sound card with hardware mixing is a wonderful thing11:20
znhoverture: yea11:20
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znhoverture: my es1371 does not have it11:20
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schasiWhat is this multiseat thing you can choose at the install?11:20
lcoreHappyFool,  thanks. Slipped of my mind.11:20
Krypt|cgotonpo : nope. normal.11:20
lcoreexit11:20
marcreichelttiglionabbit, ok - I leave now11:20
marcreicheltthanks11:20
gotonpoKrypt|c: goodgood11:20
tiglionabbitmarcreichelt: look in /etc/init.d/ for acpi-support and acpid, and in /etc/default/ for the same filenames.  Pays to "locate"11:20
marcreicheltah mom11:20
paxKrypt|c: just playing, there's a bug in ubuntu that shows an ip in last -d/-i .. made me reinstall just to find out it's a bug!11:20
nickrud_whiprush this has been a big pain in the butt amoung my friends; are you sure that the red text on the 127.0.0.1:631 text can be bypassed by adding a user to lpadmin?11:21
guerrerohttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2653.html11:21
znhI shot you down.. boom boom11:21
guerreromarcreichelt11:21
tiglionabbitmarcreichelt: you should also have some acpi-related modules11:21
Krypt|cpax: lol11:21
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Krypt|cpax : you might want to play around with chkrootkit and the joys of lsof to save yourself some hassles <G>11:21
whiprushnickrud_: I have it written down at work (for our cups server)11:21
overtureznh, are you using esd then?11:21
paxKrypt|c: trust me I've done lot more than just sudo apt-get install chkrootkit11:22
whiprushnickrud_: we however made other changes, so it's possible that we altered the default.11:22
whiprushbut I do know it's possible.11:22
vladuz977does anybody know how to add startup applications when i run fluxbox. on the forum i only find instructions for gnome11:22
znhoverture: That doesn't seems to work with Enemy-Territory11:22
nickrud_whiprush oh, it's possible :)11:22
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znhHiddenWolf has now be revealed11:22
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overtureznh, hmm, dunno then11:23
paxKrypt|c: chkrootkit means nothing, not even debsums can tell for certain, if you are owned by someone who know what they are doing, you gotta reinstall my man.11:23
znhbang bang..11:23
znhoverture: np ;)11:23
HiddenWolfznh?11:23
HappyFoolwhiprush: you must have made other tweaks, cos i'm in lpadmin (by default, as the 'first' user) but i can do admin on localhost:63111:23
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znhHiddenWolf: nevermind ;)11:23
whiprushcan or can't?11:23
Krypt|cpax: yeah I know, but it's not a bad place to start if you're trying to see what's going on.11:23
ateveson my gnome desktop all folder and filenames are shown complete, but some are very long. can i shorten them so that the whole name is shown after hovering or focussing?11:23
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HappyFoolwhiprush: errr. can't :P11:23
whiprushoh.11:23
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nickrud_adduser cupsys shadow is the canonical fix :)11:23
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marcreicheltguerrero, the url says that I have to recompile the kernel without acpi11:24
marcreicheltwhy that?11:24
paxKrypt|c: I tried chkrootkit, debsums, snoopy and many other tools, I went nuts ... 5 hours later and a reinstall, I find out it was reported as a bug in fedora11:24
gotonpodoes anyone know how to display desktop icon's text to the left/right instead of underneath? i can do it inside of nautilus but not on the desktop11:24
Krypt|cpax : checking bug reports is definitely important when tracking down odd behaviour <g>11:25
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Krypt|cpax : you can like save some hassle like that by also running snort/base11:25
zythooh awesome my palm happily plays .oggs11:25
paxyeah well .. now I can say that too.11:25
Dreamer3anyone else have terible memory leaks with Hoary?11:25
Krypt|cor even just running tcpdump11:25
zythAnyone know how I can modify mpg321 input.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o output.ogg - to mass convert an entire folder of mp3s to .ogg?11:25
whiprushnickrud_: ah, I see (someone at work must have added cupsys to shadow), I was under the impression that that was the default.11:26
Krypt|cethereal is also not a bad toy for checking on shiznit11:26
znhzyth: can be done with base - /me blinks @ bash geeks11:26
nickrud_whiprush no, it's not, and I deluser when I'm done11:26
HappyFoolzyth: maybe use a bash for loop, or find11:26
znhzyth: *bash11:26
adwaitwhen is breezy releasing11:26
adwait?11:26
paxoctober11:26
znhwhen it's released11:27
zythahh ok11:27
nickrud_shadow is not a pleasant place for services11:27
adwaitznh: helpful answer11:27
zythI just want to somehow preserve the filenames... I will go read up on bash11:27
zyththanks :)11:27
HappyFoolzyth: something like      for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 foo.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o $(basename $i).ogg -; done11:27
znhadwait: I see11:27
HappyFoolzyth: err, no, that's wrong, sorry11:27
zythahhh11:27
zythlol11:27
zythnp :)11:28
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HappyFoolzyth: something like      for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 foo.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o $(basename $i .mp3).ogg -; done11:28
nickrud_whiprush I've been screwed by well intentioned co-workers too :)11:28
nightswimand yay for even more loss of quality11:28
whiprushheh11:29
nightswimby converting one lossy format into the other \o/11:29
spanglesontoastogg is better than mp311:29
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nightswimyes11:29
nightswimso?11:29
spanglesontoastit just is lol11:29
znhI don't see any difference between ogg and mp3 ?11:29
spanglesontoastshame podcasting isn't in ogg11:29
nightswimconverting from a crappy format into a better one11:29
zythnightswim, I don't have access to originals, these are files from mp3.com back when it had actual music11:29
nightswimonly makes it worse11:29
nightswimok11:29
zythnightswim, and the only freeware music player for palm ONLY plays .ogg (I don't want to use realplayer)11:29
nightswimjust mind the even greater loss of quality doing this11:30
nightswimok11:30
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nightswimyou have a good reason to do this11:30
nightswimmost people dont :)11:30
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zytheh, they're 128kbps mp3 anyways, so I doubt I'll notice much, unfortunately11:30
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zythHappyFool, I'm getting errors on 'foo.mp3', which ought to be replaces with $i ...?11:31
HappyFoolzyth: doh11:31
Krypt|cok...it's definitely bedtime for this camper.  The coffee still hasn't worn off completely, but it's past 3:30am11:31
HappyFoolzyth: sorry, late night, i guess11:31
znh:[] 11:31
spanglesontoastaren't there tools to do what zyth wants to do?11:31
zythHappyFool, np :)11:31
znhHappyFool: just woke up11:31
HappyFoolznh: no, but my ears are still ringing ;)11:32
Krypt|cyou mean like right click and convert all to ogg?11:32
LasseLI am having a problem with sound that isn't in sync after watching a movie for a while in totem, but I am not sure where to start11:32
Krypt|clater folks :)11:32
Razor-X!info tnt11:32
znhLasseL: try using VLC, works great for me11:32
zythHappyFool, eh, now it's choking on spaces in filenames... know any way around that? ;)11:32
znhLasseL: else you might have to install some better graphics drivers11:32
spanglesontoasthow can i use samba to access another machines file shares?11:32
HappyFoolzyth: put quotes around the $i11:32
Razor-Xarrrggghhh, there is no tnt11:32
Razor-Xfineth11:32
zythspanglesontoast, I've no idea, I was just using mpg321 and oggenc11:32
zythHappyFool, ok11:33
Razor-Xznh: spread the VLC love ;)11:33
znhRazor-X: you bet11:33
spanglesontoastyep kryptic11:33
HappyFoolzyth: and the $(basename ....).ogg, probably11:33
znhspanglesontoast: try with smbclient, or by mounting it11:33
LasseLznh, for some reason i am sure it is a sound issue11:33
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Razor-Xthis is 2:33 AM for me, so, I normally don't spread VLC at this hour11:33
HappyFoolzyth: test it by putting an 'echo' at the start of the command, and omit the '|'11:33
znhLasseL: hmm, have you got alsa(installed/configured) already?11:33
Razor-Xznh: have you noticed recent VLC builds have been worse on the repos?11:33
spanglesontoastcan't i just connect to it11:33
LasseLznh, how can I tell?11:33
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znhRazor-X: you mean the many 404 errors?11:34
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: you can try 'smb://computer/share' in nautilus or mozilla11:34
znhLasseL: eh tell what?11:34
Razor-Xznh: no, I mean the sound errors11:34
IceDC571is there a command to show what refresh rate i'm currently running?11:34
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: or Places -> Connect to server11:34
LasseLznh, if it is configured *properly*11:34
znhRazor-X: Oh didn't notice it yet :-D11:34
znhLasseL: not many to configure, should work by default11:34
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Razor-Xznh: stick around during... say... 3:00 PM PST11:34
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Razor-Xor just read some logs from then11:34
Razor-Xand you'll understand11:34
spanglesontoastah works ty11:34
LasseLznh, would libesd-alsa0 do something for me?11:35
znhRazor-X: I'll do that, maybe I can give a helping hand11:35
ainktest11:35
Razor-XLasseL: try vlc-alsa, if it's not installed11:35
znhRazor-X: when is 3:00 in PST->GMT+111:35
LasseLok, actually I tried installing it yesterday, but got errors about missing files11:35
zythHappyFool, ok, only issue now is it is making it 'foo.mp3.ogg'11:35
Razor-Xznh: GMT-8 == PST11:35
znhLasseL: try apt-get update, might help11:35
HappyFoolzyth: did you change the basename command to the second form?11:36
Razor-Xso, in total GMT time11:36
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HappyFoolzyth: $(basename $i .mp3) ?11:36
zythHappyFool, I made it for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 "$i" -w - | oggenc -o "$i.ogg" -; done since the basename was making it only output as .ogg11:36
Razor-X15:00 GMT-911:36
Razor-Xbecause we're on PDT11:36
zythHappyFool, sans filename11:36
marcreicheltguerrero?11:36
Razor-X(Pacific Daylight Time)11:36
znhRazor-X: confused.. xD11:36
marcreicheltapmd is not running ^11:36
nickrud_I do miss the ocean11:36
znhcan you smell it..11:37
Razor-Xznh: you're time 7:0011:37
nickrud_texas is .... flat11:37
Razor-Xassuming a 24 hour clock11:37
Razor-X*your11:37
HappyFoolzyth: does this not print a list of '.ogg' files? for i in *.mp3; do echo "$(basename $i .mp3).ogg"; done11:37
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znhRazor-X: ok..I'm on vocation this monthday for two weeks.. So I'll be later in the channel to check it out11:38
zythHappyFool, basename: too many arguments11:38
zythTry `basename --help' for more information.11:38
zyth.ogg11:38
HappyFoolzyth: hrm11:39
znhHappyFool: I think $i and .mp3 have to be melted together11:39
HappyFoolzyth: oh, th $i also needs to be in quotes11:39
HappyFool*ponder*11:39
jf6A logiciel into order to convert wav to mp3?11:39
jf6please'11:39
jf6??11:39
HappyFooljf6: lame ought to do that11:39
jf6HappyFool,  hum, i bad with the terminal11:40
zythHappyFool, ok, now it prints stuff like Dj Doo - The Olympic Theme (Salt Lake City 2002).mp3.mp3.ogg11:40
znhAre streamrippers ilegal for private use(for e.g. to play at my car's mp3 player)11:40
jf6HappyFool, (and bad in english...)11:40
zythHappyFool, the actual filename only being with 1 .mp3, of course11:40
nickrud_ `basename $file .jpg`.pdf is what I use, maybe you cna alter to fit11:40
jf6so?11:41
Razor-X!info w311:41
HappyFoolzyth: maybe: this: for i in *.mp3; do j=$(basename "$i" .mp3).ogg; echo "$j"; done11:41
znh!info znh11:41
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Razor-Xznh: ;)11:41
znhPackage 'znh' does not exist.11:41
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znhYou bet i'm not a package11:42
PPC_Guyquestion.. Have Doom, DoomII and Ultimate Doom cd's for windows. Can I use those somehow with ubuntu say like with quake?11:42
HappyFoolzyth: you assign to j first, then use it (in quotes) in the ogg command11:42
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zythHappyFool, perfect, that works11:42
Razor-XPPC_Guy: look up alternate Doom engines11:42
HappyFoolzyth: inelegant; i don't know if there's a way to 'nest' quotes11:42
Razor-XI used to use a 3D one meself11:43
PPC_GuyThx Razor-X Will do11:43
Razor-Xmade Doom so much more fun... ;011:43
Razor-X*;)11:43
zythHappyFool, yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to fit that into the conversion script, lol11:43
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Razor-X(which is hard, seeing how fun Doom already is)11:43
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spanglesontoasti hate these ugly cursors that come with ubuntu how do I change them11:44
HappyFoolzyth: for i in *.mp3; do j=$(basename "$i" .mp3).ogg; mpg321 "$i" -w - | oggenc -o "$j" -; done11:44
doiveam i the only one who thinkd printing is broken in hoary?11:44
nickrud_so, as a new to irc guy, just how may spangles on toast are there :)11:44
spanglesontoaster why you ask?11:44
spanglesontoastI love to play dumb that's all........11:45
doiveor is it just usb printing?11:45
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: look in System -> Preferences, maybe, though i don't see anything obvious under Themes or Mouse11:45
nickrud_cuz over the last couple of months, sot has asked some good and dumb questions :)11:45
Razor-X!info emacspeak11:45
ubotuemacspeak: (speech output interface to Emacs), section universe/editors, is extra. Version: 17.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1206 kB, Installed size: 5512 kB11:45
spanglesontoastis it xcursor?11:45
Razor-Xwoohoo! ;)11:45
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HappyFoolRazor-X: you got emacspeak working? I tried it once in fedora but there were bits missing11:46
PPC_Guyquestion: Can I use apt-get to install fluxbox?11:46
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Razor-XI will try11:46
doiveadmit it, everyone has just given up printing on unix these days haven't they?11:46
IceDC571i'm back in gnome :)11:46
Razor-XHappyFool: do you use emacs with everything?11:46
doiveinstead they just by a mac mini with every printer11:46
Razor-X(or as I call it, The Emacs Way (TM))11:46
PPC_Guyno problems printing here with a USB HP printer11:47
IceDC571from xfce that is.. gnome isnt so slow after all11:47
HappyFoolRazor-X: no, i use x-chat/firefox also11:47
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Razor-XHappyFool: other than your graphical web-browser ;011:47
Razor-X*;)11:47
HappyFooldoive: maybe look on the wiki: wiki.ubuntu.com   for info11:47
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doiveppc don't tell me you are running the ppc version11:47
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doivehappyfool i have memorised that wiki11:47
spanglesontoastthere aren't many nickrud11:47
spanglesontoast:P11:47
PPC_Guyrunning both.. Right now I'm on my celeron, but the printer works with both11:47
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spanglesontoastah hah11:48
spanglesontoastgcursor11:48
spanglesontoastto change it :P11:48
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doiveppc_guy i guess i have to hear from someone who couldn't and fixed it11:48
Razor-Xhmmm... it's prompting me for speech servers11:48
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Razor-Xwhich one should I use....11:48
nickrud_heh, I figured you knew :)11:48
Razor-XDECtalk Express? DECtalk Multivoice?11:49
jf6who know a logiciel to convert WAV to MP311:49
jf6?11:49
doiveit sees the printer and everything but when i print it goes "whirr" and doesn't print11:49
Razor-XSoftware DECtalk?11:49
spanglesontoastdo you keep a log sir?11:49
PPC_Guydid upi install with the printer connected dovie?11:49
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doiveupi?11:49
PPC_Guyapt-get cups update? mabye?11:49
PPC_Guyyou.. Sorry, new keyboard..11:49
spanglesontoastI wonder where the cursors actually go?11:50
nickrud_well, the log is running, to be true, but to also be true, I did not look you up.11:50
HappyFoolPPC_Guy: (if you didn't get a response) fluxbox is available via apt11:50
jf6so no one knows?11:50
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PPC_Guyjust tried apt-get install fluxbox and got E: invalid11:50
doivethere is no package cups in hoary11:50
PPC_Guynever mind.. getting flux now11:51
nickrud_The log is running because I wanted to make sure I didn't make a fool of myself, I've never turned it off11:51
PPC_Guywas just a guess doive.. Still pretty new to linux11:51
tiglionabbitdoive: there are many cups packages.  Do a search11:51
PPC_GuyNow if I want to use flux, do I just log out of this session and select it? or is there more too it then that?11:51
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spanglesontoasthehe11:52
doivetiglionabbit i installed from the dvd everything with cups in the *** name11:52
PPC_Guyhave 0.9.11-1 installed now11:52
HappyFoolPPC_Guy: i think so -- you probably will have a different 'session' option11:52
spanglesontoastbut you don't look like a admin11:52
tiglionabbitPPC_Guy: it will probably not have any of your programs in its menu.  You must run a menu-generator for it11:52
HappyFoolextra option, even11:52
nickrud_some nicks stick in the brain11:52
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doivethink i'll go back to debian11:52
PPC_Guyand how do I go about that tig? Point me where to read11:52
DAWKIRSTGreetings.11:53
tiglionabbitPPC_Guy: you can try running it right now, using applications -> system tools -> new login.  Use control-alt-F7 or F8 to switch between the two11:53
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DAWKIRSTAnyone knows an ap capable of streaming music over the net?11:53
tiglionabbitPPC_Guy: uh, ask at #fluxbox11:53
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tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: streamtuner11:53
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tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: many of your media players are capable of streaming, they just need to be treated right.  Streamtuner just browses web radio stations and feeds them to your media player11:54
IceDC571does evolution not support SSL? hmm..11:54
VincentMXTreenaks has opped himself on #ubuntu-nl. he's not supposed to do that11:54
spanglesontoastahah11:54
doiveanyone have a spare debian dvd?11:55
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LasseLznh, how do I tell VLC to use alsa -- I get no sound and some oss audio error when I start vlc11:55
PPC_Guyyup, that boomed11:55
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DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, I see. I can't install Streamtuner anyway -- it wants a dependency which isnb't supported by my current repositories11:55
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HappyFoolRazor-X: you getting anywhere?11:56
MagiusHi, how does Ubuntu 5.04 do on laptops?11:56
spanglesontoastok I'll brb11:56
tiglionabbit!repositories11:56
ubotumethinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:56
tiglionabbit!info streamtuner11:56
ubotustreamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-3ubuntu0 (hoary), Packaged size: 865 kB, Installed size: 2696 kB11:56
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tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: enable the universe repository, and disable any unnofficial repositories, and it should install11:57
DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, kk, ty.11:57
doiveLasseL set it in the gnome preferences11:58
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NinwaDoes anybody know why Gnome every couple of hours or so randomly logouts?11:58
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NinwaIs there a hotkey I may accidentally be pressing?11:58
NinwaAlthough the last time I wasn't even touching the keyboard.11:59
doiveninwa that would be ctrl-alt-backspace11:59
spanglesontoastthats so better11:59
tiglionabbitNinwa: control-alt-backspace will do it, and so might bumping the power button11:59
spanglesontoasta nice green cursor11:59
nickrud_lol11:59
spanglesontoast:D11:59
doiveor you have a dicky power supply11:59
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: how'd you switch it?11:59
tiglionabbitand I love your name, btw11:59
spanglesontoastthe cursor?11:59
doiveNinwa are you kicking your computer case?11:59
Ninwadoive, It's a laptop.11:59
spanglesontoastty11:59
tiglionabbityeah11:59
spanglesontoastdownload gcursor11:59
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tiglionabbit!gcursor12:00
ubotutiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?12:00
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ssgt2002power supplu is most likely12:00
qt2>_<;12:00
qt2someone kill me.12:00
tiglionabbit!info gcursor12:00
ubotugcursor: (gnome cursor theme managing software), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.061-ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 152 kB12:00
tiglionabbitqt2: what?12:00
qt2icecast.12:00
spanglesontoast/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons is where you need to dump cursor themes12:00
HappyFoolRazor-X: hrm. maybe this will be of use: http://www.pollock-nageoire.net/efm/12:00
MagiusAnyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?12:00
tiglionabbit /msg nickserv ghost qt212:00
qt2i give up on trying to figure it out.12:00
spanglesontoastfrom www.gnome-look.org12:00
wzaneed some help installing a usrobotics gigabit nic12:00
spanglesontoast:P12:00
nickrud_oh, that was so evil a while ago12:00
qt2tiglionabbit, eh?12:00
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spanglesontoastqt2 are you trying to run a shoutcast server?12:01
tiglionabbitqt2: that's the command you'd use to "kill yourself" on irc12:01
DanielCHello. X is not working on Hoary. How can I configure it from a tty?12:01
qt2tiglionabbit, i wasnt trying to do that... ;)12:01
tiglionabbitqt2: type your nick's password after it12:01
exhuwhere are start-up scripts? where are services to start on log-in are enumerated?12:01
qt2spanglesontoast, heh, yeah.12:01
HappyFoolexhu: /etc/init.d, and /etc/rc?.d12:01
qt2spanglesontoast, and also stream using it.12:01
spanglesontoastgrr I really should have bothered to look at that12:01
spanglesontoastI used it on windoze but never linux12:02
nickrud_exhu rc2.d is the normal startup, as well as rcS.d12:02
HappyFoolexhu: you may find the utilites 'update-rc.d' and 'invoke-rc.d' useful in connection with these12:02
qt2spanglesontoast, its cake on windows. ;)12:02
exhuHappyFool, thanks12:02
wzane1 experience with getting a 1000Mbps nic to work on ubuntu?12:02
spanglesontoastdo you have to compile it?12:02
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DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, multiverse and universe...does this mean they are not officially supported?12:02
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doiveok i can't see my printer in /proc/bus/usb/devices is that a clue?12:02
qt2spanglesontoast, nah, i grabbed it from synaptic.12:02
tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: I wouldn't worry, they're pretty well supported.  Not official, but wont break anything12:03
spanglesontoastdo you have glibc installed?12:03
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IceDC571!info mozilla-thunderbird12:03
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10638 kB, Installed size: 31136 kB12:03
tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: you shouldn't really worry until you start getting stuff from backports.  That's when support is kind of iffy12:03
HappyFooldoive: probably. maybe try 'tail -f /dev/log/dmesg' and plug your printer out and in, and see if anything happens12:03
HappyFooldoive: oops12:04
exhuHappyFool, so all executable files in /etc/init.d are launched automatically?12:04
HappyFool/var/log/demsg12:04
HappyFoolexhu: no12:04
HappyFoolexhu: see what nickrud_ said12:04
spanglesontoastdoes a samba mount mean those files are on my machine?12:04
HappyFoolexhu: different run levels start/stop services when they are entered; this is controlled by symbolic links to /etc/init.d files in the /etc/rc?.d directories12:04
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doivehappyfool i can see it now in dmesg12:04
topylispanglesontoast: no12:04
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spanglesontoastis it poss to make my machine into a ftp server and host those files?12:05
Angel777Hello12:05
spanglesontoastas long as that machine is on?12:05
HappyFooldoive: and lsusb (though i think that may be the same as /proc/... err, whatever you said earlier)12:05
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ram_einsteinhi all12:05
exhuHappyFool, what does rcS.d stand for?12:05
ram_einsteincan Evolution sync with a PDA phone?12:05
doivehappyfool that does it12:05
topylispanglesontoast: not sure, haven't tried. i doubt it though12:05
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HappyFoolexhu: err. not sure ;). read 'man init'12:06
DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, how would I know if it's from backports?12:06
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ram_einsteinor maybe Thunderbird?12:06
doiveso why's it not in /proc/bus/usb/devices? hmmm12:06
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nickrud_exhu rcS basically means 'startup'12:07
tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: if it's in backports, ubotu wont know it exists when you say !info thepackagename.  You'll only be getting backports packages if you have a backports mirror in your sources.list12:07
tiglionabbit!backports12:07
ram_einsteinMost people use MS Outlook to sync with their PDA phones...12:07
ubotu[backports]  at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:07
doiveshould i be able to cat a file to /dev/usb/lp0 ?12:07
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nickrud_then, rc2 is the runlevel (services, etc) you want running12:08
HappyFooldoive: not a clue12:08
DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, how can I see what mirrors is in my sources.list -- I remembered that I added some mirrors a while back...can't remebere anymore tho.12:08
doivehappyfool i would have bought a parallel port one if they still made em12:08
nickrud_in practice, it's pretty vague12:08
tiglionabbit!repositories12:08
ubotumethinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:08
HappyFooldoive: what printer do you have?12:08
topyliram_einstein: depends on the phone. you can see if multisync, gammu or gnokii support it12:09
doivewasn't usb meant to simplify things?12:09
qt2okay...12:09
rob^is there a guide somewhere to installing IE on ubuntu>12:09
topyliram_einstein: i haven't had much luck12:09
doivehappyfool it's a brother HL-143012:09
tiglionabbitDAWKIRST: you should be able to just look at the file /etc/aut/sources.list12:09
qt2is there a reason that i wouldnt be able to copy. say, mp3's as root into my home dir and be able to play them?12:09
doivei used to be able to print to it with "lpr -P HL-1430"12:09
benediktwhere can i get free drivers for canon 865i ?12:09
spanglesontoasti wish I could edit the menu that comes with ubuntu their actual custom menu rather than the annoying normal gnome one12:10
MagiusAnyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?12:10
qt2because i did that, and they wont play, unless i open xmms inside a root console.12:10
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DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, I have no /etc/aut12:10
nickrud_doive you having problems setting up your printer?12:10
ram_einsteinI see topyli12:10
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ram_einsteinwhich phone?12:10
tiglionabbitqt2: you shouldn't have to copy things into your home dir as root, and you shouldn't have to be root to play mp3s.  You can get mp3 support by grabbing gstreamer0.8-mad from Universe12:11
doivenickrud_ it's all set up but won't print since upgrading to hoary12:11
tiglionabbit!gstreamer0.8-mad12:11
ubotutiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?12:11
ram_einsteinI want to use a Nokia or Erricson12:11
topyliram_einstein: the old 9210 nokia communicator12:11
tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-mad12:11
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB12:11
lpihWith what am i supposed to unrar RAR 3.0 packages?12:11
lpihunrar cannot do it12:11
tiglionabbit!info unrar-nonfree12:11
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB12:11
nickrud_doive may I suggest totally removing the printer, and using the standard cups setup12:11
spanglesontoast!is tig smoking crack?12:11
ubotuI don't know, spanglesontoast12:11
spanglesontoastah ok12:11
topyliram_einstein: i can mount the phone's file system with p3nfs, but i haven't had luck with the calendar or contacts syncing12:12
DAWKIRSTtiglionabbit, nm, found it in /etc/apt12:12
doivenickrud_ i'm willing to try anything but can you explain that?12:12
ram_einsteinwhat about gnome plot?12:12
ram_einstein*pilot?12:12
lpihHeh12:13
lpihPackage unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:13
lpihThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:13
lpihis only available from another source12:13
FoamY_is_ZZZzzzzhttp://www.linux-mag.com/newbies/12:13
tiglionabbit!repositories12:13
ubotuit has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:13
doivenickrud_ what do i remove? you mean in gnome-cups-manager?12:13
HappyFooldoive: hmm. seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=217612:13
tiglionabbitlpih: you will need to add the multiverse repository12:13
nickrud_sudo adduser cupsys shadow; invoke-rc.d cuspys restart <use your favorite browser to got to 127.0.0.1:631 and edit the printer> sudo deluser cupsys shadow ; invoke-rd.d cupsys restart12:14
nickrud_doive no, just bypass gnome-cups-manager12:14
HappyFooldoive: seems the poster had problems, but it worked from openoffice12:14
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topyliram_einstein: that's not good for symbian phones like mine12:15
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nickrud_maybe the next interation will work better12:15
doivenickrud_ & happyfool that looks ugly but thanks12:15
nickrud_it's ugly, but12:16
ram_einsteinhere's one with a kyocera: http://planet-geek.com/archives/000770.html12:16
ram_einsteincheck it out topyli12:16
spanglesontoastEDD HAPPY AMIGA12:16
spanglesontoastoops12:16
=== spanglesontoast happy amiga theme
spanglesontoastI'm called eddlandos too :P12:17
doivetried printing from openoffice but how can it work with no printer selected anyway?12:17
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tiglionabbitdoive: add a printer then =P12:18
Eddlandoshehe12:18
nickrud_doive unless you have a printer defined, open office won't use it12:18
topyliram_einstein: dunno, that has a different operating system i guess12:18
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spanglesontoastwoohoo12:18
nickrud_logs12:18
nickrud_:)12:18
spanglesontoast:D12:18
tiglionabbitubotu what's up12:18
ubotutiglionabbit: Wish i knew12:18
spanglesontoasti forgot I registered that12:18
tiglionabbitubotu up is the direction opposite the most prominent center of gravity at this particular time.12:19
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit12:19
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tiglionabbitubotu, what's up?12:19
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?12:19
tiglionabbitgrr, stupid bot12:19
devcan some one look under link to apllication for home icon and see what the command is for me pleassse?12:19
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nickrud_dev, I'm not sure what you're asking for12:20
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doiveok i added a printer again. it says "paused"12:21
tiglionabbitdoive: okay, but did you add the correct model of printer?12:21
doivetiglionabbit sure i did it detected it perfectly12:21
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doivei can't restart the job12:22
doiveit says "pending:printer-stopped"12:22
nickrud_if I had a nickel for every time that this box misidentified my printer, I could by a coke12:22
ram_einsteincan someone quickly get me started with apt? how do I search for packages?12:22
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nickrud_ram_einstein apt-cache search12:23
doivenickrud_ well that doesn't seem to be my problem. this is strictly an ubuntu problem i'm sure12:23
ram_einsteinah thanks nickrud_12:23
nickrud_ram_einstein another is apt-cache show <package>12:23
devnickrud_  should be something like 'kfmclient openURL $HOME for the comand for home so i can make my own icon for my desktop12:23
doivethe really annoying thing is they have disabled the web interface to cups12:23
nickrud_dev oooh, it starts with a k it must be kde :)12:24
devyup12:24
nickrud_and, I don't know kde at _all_12:24
devahh ok =(12:24
doivejust in case some evil spammer uses my printer for free! lol12:24
tiglionabbitI wonder what desktop environment they use at KFC ?12:24
IceDC571tiglionabbit: you're making me hungry12:25
nickrud_doive if you scroll back, I've told you how to enable the web interface12:25
spanglesontoastwould anyone know where I can get some amiga icons for my gnome desktop gnomelook doesn't have any :(12:26
nickrud_roger ellison12:26
nickrud_catch him in seattle12:27
tiglionabbitIceDC571: one time I took some KFC Extra Crispy fried chicken, and I squeeezed it and squeezed it, and you couldn't imagine the volume of grease that came out of that thing12:27
tiglionabbitand that was Extra Crispy12:27
spanglesontoasthuh12:27
tiglionabbitor um, Krispy, if it's a KDE thing12:27
nickrud_tiglionabbit that was not grease, that was nectar :)12:27
rob^tiglionabbit, that suprises you?12:27
MagiusAnyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?12:27
tiglionabbitnickrud_: rofl12:27
IceDC571KDE, KFC, same difference.. they use the Kitchen Desktop Evironment12:28
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rob^Magius, I know knoppix does, so ubuntu may12:28
ram_einsteinum.. does apt-cache search list installed or availible or both?12:28
doivenickrud_ so you did sorry12:28
nickrud_doive np, it's all context12:28
IceDC571Magius: yes, it performs very very well.. everything works out of the box, wireless works12:28
doivenickrud_ however: $  invoke-rc.d cupsys restart12:28
doive * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd12:28
doivecupsd: Child exited with status 13!12:28
doiveinvoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "restart" failed.12:28
PPC_Guyanyone here have any luck with a linksys b/g wireless card?12:29
HappyFoolram_einstein: both, afaik12:29
Magiusrob^: I currently have FC2 on it.....but I have been testing ubuntu and like the setup12:29
nickrud_doive every time you change a users groups, you must restart the user for the groups to be registered. A unix feature12:29
tiglionabbitwow, hey, KFC: Kde on Fedora Core12:29
rob^Magius, give it a shot12:29
MagiusIceDC571: Does the touch pad work12:29
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IceDC571Magius: yep12:29
ram_einsteinhow do I list just installed packages then?12:29
MagiusRock!  It didn't on FC212:30
tiglionabbitif FC didn't use KDE by default already, that could be a funny parody12:30
HappyFoolram_einstein: you can use synaptic for that12:30
HappyFoolram_einstein: i think this works too:12:30
ram_einsteinhow do I start gnome-pilot? I think it's installed12:30
doivenickrud_ ok so why did it fail?12:30
HappyFooldpkg -l|grep ^ii12:30
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ram_einsteinwow! forget it12:30
ram_einsteinI'l use synaptic12:30
nickrud_doive depends on where it fails12:30
benPPC_Guy - yes I have12:30
HappyFoolheh12:30
jf6War of worlds12:30
tiglionabbitram_einstein: system -> preferences -> Palm Setup12:30
jf6HAHA12:30
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cledusddpben: How did you get it up and running?12:30
tiglionabbitI mean PalmOS Devices12:31
znhBang Bang.. I shot you down12:31
nickrud_doive you mean, invoke-rc.d cupsys restart fails ?12:31
devdev im getting this everytime i try to aptget something12:31
devdev Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main gaim 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 [845kB] 12:31
devdev Fetched 3617kB in 42s (86.0kB/s)12:31
devdev Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch12:31
devdev E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?12:31
devdev spermie@Spermie:~$12:31
benare you on gaim? might be less noisy than here12:31
cledusddpyeah, same name12:31
ram_einsteinpalm os devices12:31
HappyFooldev: please don't paste more than two lines here12:31
devsowwie =(12:31
nickrud_dev the us repositories are bad, again12:31
IceDC571no one abbreviates gnome lol12:32
HappyFooldev: us.archive may (still?) be broken; change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list12:32
johnnybezakwhats a good gtk photo app12:32
nickrud_I've been told that uk is ok12:32
znhjohnnybezak: The Gimp ?12:32
tiglionabbitI heard that uk is really slow12:32
doive"invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "restart" failed."12:32
IceDC571!info uk12:32
znh!whereis znh12:33
ubotuznh: I don't know, could you explain it?12:33
IceDC571uk??12:33
johnnybezaksorry photo catalog12:33
znh:] 12:33
tiglionabbitIceDC571: it's not a package, its a repository12:33
johnnybezakiphoto style12:33
IceDC571ohh12:33
IceDC571lol12:33
HappyFooltiglionabbit: that would be because of all the us ppl using it, then ? ;)12:33
cledusddpben, grab me on game.. Don't know to grab dcc on bitchx yet12:33
benoh piss i cannot get it to work what is your email me12:33
nickrud_I'm parroting here; I'm on dialup, and all the security updates don't affect me, so I'm a bit behind.12:33
cledusddpgaim12:33
tiglionabbitman it would be cool if we could use picasa on linux.  Someone bug google about that12:33
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cledusddpif I could type.. lol12:33
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IceDC571ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning... fsck you!12:34
bentry me on benmoretti@yahoo.com.au12:34
doivenickrud_ i feel like i'm not using the same distro12:34
spanglesontoast!ubuntu12:34
ubotuwell, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.12:34
spanglesontoast:D12:34
nickrud_doive what do you mean?12:34
IceDC571err.. spanglesontoast12:34
tiglionabbitcool, someone added to my !ubuntu12:35
doivenickrud_ well why would that command not work?12:35
IceDC571!kubuntu12:35
uboturumour has it, kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu. Go to #kubuntu for Kubuntu support.12:35
ram_einsteinI have a Nokia 6100 with a usb connector. How do I connect it and what is the purpose?12:35
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IceDC571!whorey12:35
nickrud_doive well, probably because I forget to mention that it should be preceeded by sudo12:35
ubotuI haven't a clue, IceDC57112:35
spanglesontoasthe wanted to know what ubuntu mean't as a word12:35
spanglesontoast!hoary12:35
ubotuI haven't a clue, spanglesontoast12:35
tiglionabbit!hoary12:36
IceDC571lol12:36
spanglesontoast?12:36
spanglesontoastodd12:36
ram_einstein!ubuntu12:36
ubotumethinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.12:36
HappyFoolcan't you guys play with the bot in /msg ?12:36
doivenickrud_ oh crap i should have known that12:36
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cledusddpbrb12:36
nickrud_hey, I gave a recipe, the recipe sucked :)12:36
tiglionabbitubotu hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet12:36
ubotutiglionabbit: okay12:36
nmooredoes anyone know why the tmpfs at /dev/shm is provided? does it have an internal use?12:36
IceDC571tiglionabbit: is that what hoary really means?12:37
monteirowhen i execute programs my mouse stops a little, and i've a lot of free ram memory :( i dont understand, anyone knows any bug about it ?12:37
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nickrud_hoary also implies dignity12:37
tiglionabbitIceDC571: yes.  Look it up in the dictionary12:37
doivenickrud_ ok it worked now what do i put in at http://127.0.0.1:631/ when it asks for a damn username and password?12:37
doivecupsys?12:37
IceDC571wow it now takes me ages to start up firefox12:37
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nickrud_doive now, you must have a root password defined, like I said, a screwed up recipe. I assumed too much in it12:38
tiglionabbitit's interesting how there is no reason to use paper dictionaries anymore12:38
IceDC571adj. hoarier, hoariest12:38
IceDC571   1. Gray or white with or as if with age.12:38
IceDC571   2. Covered with grayish hair or pubescence: hoary leaves.12:38
IceDC571   3. So old as to inspire veneration; ancient.12:38
IceDC571i like number 212:38
nmooretiglionabbit: you may not be using a computer12:38
doivenickrud_ well according to ubuntu's easy to use ideas there is no root passwd12:38
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nickrud_I can write for the ubuntuguide!12:39
tiglionabbitnmoore: yeah right, like that would happen.  *carries his Kamek around with him everywhere*12:39
tiglionabbitnmoore: you what?12:39
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tiglionabbitoops, nickrud_12:39
nickrud_bad?12:39
tiglionabbitwhat do you mean by that?12:39
doivei can't believe i have to be root to get a printer working!!12:40
IceDC571i heard a rumor that the graveyard repositories are hosted at an actual grave yard...12:40
nickrud_tiglionabbit I was mocking myelf12:40
devis this right. sudo apt-get instal mozilla fire-fox?12:40
tiglionabbitwe were working on a more explanatory guide to ubuntu, starting with this big summarizing page I wrote12:40
tiglionabbit!newusers12:40
ubotuI heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers12:40
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IceDC571dev: try sudo aptitude install firefox12:40
tiglionabbitdev: it's mozilla-firefox12:40
IceDC571oh lol12:40
tiglionabbit!info mozilla-firefox12:40
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB12:41
IceDC571!info firefox12:41
nickrud_doive sudo passwd root12:41
nickrud_create a root password12:41
IceDC571aww..12:41
nickrud_then, you can use :63112:41
devtiglionabbit thanks i knew there was a ' - ' in there somw where =)12:41
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tiglionabbitwait, how is a root password different from "sudo -s" ?12:42
anacronif there's binary and source files from some program, which one should i take?12:42
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HappyFooltiglionabbit: it's different if you accessing via a web-browser ;)12:43
tiglionabbitanacron: binary I believe...  unless apt has a method of compiling for you12:43
nickrud_a root password allows you you access a web admin interface, for starters12:43
devwhats that one program called x gears or something like that12:43
IceDC571glxgears12:43
spanglesontoast!amiga12:43
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, spanglesontoast12:43
devthank ya12:43
tiglionabbitdev: glxgears ?12:43
devyup12:43
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anacrontiglionabbit: well i wouldn't be downloading eitherone if apt would find something :)12:43
tiglionabbitanacron: what's the program?12:44
doivenickrud_ now i have a root account and the web interface says this: ""Unable to open USB device "usb://Brother/HL-1430%20series": No such device"Device URI: usb://Brother/HL-1430%20series"12:44
doivenickrud_ your turn to scroll up12:44
topylianacron: if you can find a binary for your system, get that. otherwise, get the source and build a binary12:45
nickrud_doive lol, so, where am I looking :)12:45
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doivenickrud_ ok so i used the web interface to delete the printer and add another12:45
doiveand i printed a test page12:46
doive(tried to)12:46
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doiveand in "jobs" it says "aborted"12:46
tiglionabbitrofl Iced12:46
spanglesontoastSomeone whos good at the gimp could ya cut me out this icon http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/19814-1.jpg12:46
tiglionabbitwhich?12:46
doiveclicking "restart job" gives "Error:    client-error-not-possible"12:47
doivewho coded that?12:47
doivereal informative12:47
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spanglesontoastthe amiga one12:47
spanglesontoastred and white12:47
spanglesontoastred ball12:47
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: wouldn't it be easier for you to find the original png on the web?12:47
nickrud_doive I hate to admit it, but, I had to remove all printer defs, shut off my brother 5140, shutdown my computer, and restart from scratch to get cupsys to recognize the 5140. I'm not a guru12:47
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spanglesontoastI've looked12:47
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: it's got alpha transparency.  Getting anything good out of it will be hard12:47
spanglesontoastwell i'm guessing it's the only way12:48
doiveok nickrud_ i'll try that. puters just hate humans don't they? i think ubuntu might be aiming a bit high with their motto there12:48
nickrud_I did that, and the cups 631 interface found the brother 5140 on the parallel port, and all was good12:48
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stackerhola wenas12:49
spanglesontoasthttp://www.frey-united.com/aagg/gf/amiga-ball.jpg12:49
doivenickrud_ wanna swap printers? apart from the bulky cables i don't see any improvement with usb12:49
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nickrud_Heh, I've read some of the posts of the 'canonical' ubuntuites, and, I've bought in :)12:49
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doivethanks for your help nickrud_ it's bedtime here12:49
stackeranyone speaks spanish?12:49
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spanglesontoast#ubuntu-es12:50
doivesee you12:50
nickrud_doive no way :)12:50
spanglesontoastgo there stacker #ubuntu-es12:51
stackerthanks12:51
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doivenickrud_ that's right we idiots are using ubuntu in new zealand! and they even sent me a stack of cds all this way from france for free. what a sucker i was...12:52
spanglesontoasttig you get anywhere?12:52
tiglionabbitnope12:53
tiglionabbitwtf, why does that screenshot have an Internet Explorer icon on it?12:53
nickrud_the 9 extra warty's I got disappeard from the city library in 2 hours. I can live with that12:53
xxlbughi i have one question about my soundcard, i have a mainboard with a nforce2 sound chip, but also i have a audigy 2zs and the output from the soundcard is disabled, have anybody a idea how to solve this problem?12:53
spanglesontoastyea lol12:53
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spanglesontoastnot mine12:54
domsterNZ represent!12:54
spanglesontoastwho the hell would want to use ie the only reason I can think is running java in a browser12:54
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: what linked to that page?12:54
domsterspanglesontoast: do you mean activex?12:54
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: uh, firefox can do java.12:55
bencledusddp - you must have gone off somewhere so i'll leave this comment. if you are trying to get a linksys wifi card working under ubuntu, it uses a broadcom chipset, so you will need to use ndiswrapper to install the windows device driver as a kernel module12:55
spanglesontoastwww.gnome-look.com12:55
spanglesontoastfirefox does it sloppy12:55
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: I mean what linked directly to it...12:55
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bencledusddp - the best info for this is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper12:55
spanglesontoasthttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/search.php?PHPSESSID=10351be88e170d7e6d07a8eaff10e29512:55
domsterhangon, spanglesontoast, isn't it the VM that does it sloppy then - not firefox itself12:55
spanglesontoastwell it does it sloppy on here lol12:56
tiglionabbithey what the http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=23274&file1=23274-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Ubuntu+XMMS+M0D  Why doesn't Ubuntu use this one?12:56
spanglesontoastyou cannot close stuff sometimes12:56
spanglesontoastit's that bad12:56
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tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: that link doesn't work for me, takes me to an empty search12:57
spanglesontoasthow do I mount ntfs partition?12:57
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spanglesontoastoh12:57
spanglesontoastodd12:57
sinfernoin my beep media player plugins it says im using Ogg but i want to use alsa does this matter?12:57
bigfoot1how do i install a deb file?12:57
spanglesontoasthttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1981412:58
cledusddpI've update all repositories for dvd playback and still nothing in totem or xmms.. any ideas?12:58
monteiroit is possible to say that reiserfs is unstable to the point, that stops the mouse when executing programs ? (like thunderbird or mozilla)12:58
tiglionabbitsinferno: ogg is a file format, alsa is a sound mixer, they're differet types of things12:58
Bubbling_Zombiebigfoot1, sudo dpkg -i <package name>12:58
sinfernotiglionabbit, ok, thanks12:58
bigfoot1Bubbling_Zombie, thanks12:58
spanglesontoastgrrrrrr12:58
tiglionabbitsinferno: you might mean OSS.  If it is OSS, then yes, you want to switch it to ALSA12:59
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spanglesontoastgotta go and eat I'll be back in 30 mins12:59
benah cledusddp - scroll up for your answer on the wifi card12:59
sinfernotiglionabbit, yeah i went 4 tabs down and found it12:59
sinfernotiglionabbit, and changed it to alsa12:59
tiglionabbitgewd12:59
sinferno3 tabs12:59
sinfernoi dunno12:59
Nameeaterwhat are the best repo's to have for apt? Im after mplayer but its saying it doesn't exist12:59
cledusddpgot that thanx onto another issue now ben :)12:59
tiglionabbit!sources12:59
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:59
xinelhrmms12:59
tiglionabbit!info mplayer-58612:59
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB12:59
xinelnot much of a fan of enlightenment01:00
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xinelweirdness01:00
cledusddphave mplayer as well.. still no dice01:00
sinfernois xorg the right place to put Option Render Accel and NvAGP i heard of people putting stuff like this in modules01:00
tiglionabbitNameeater: those answer your question?01:00
Nameeaterlooking good :)01:00
cledusddpyou can be it's not the best way around sinferno01:00
bigfoot1Bubbling_Zombie, how do i do a force?01:00
nickrud_I still think my sources were prettier01:00
sinfernocledusddp, well i have them in xorg01:00
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Bubbling_Zombiewhy do you need to do that?01:01
cledusddpthen no worries, if it works sinferno01:01
sinfernocledusddp, ok coolz01:01
ColonelKernelI need to instal subfont.ttf for gmplayer - what do I need to install for this?01:01
tiglionabbit!info mplayer-fonts01:01
ubotumplayer-fonts: (Fonts for mplayer), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 3.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1305 kB, Installed size: 7172 kB01:01
bigfoot1Bubbling_Zombie, coz the deb doesn't realize ubuntu's fancy way of naming version numbers.01:01
anacronhas anyone installed stepmania to ubuntu?01:02
bigfoot1anacron, what's stepmania?01:02
sinfernoare there any codecs for tome? or should i just get mplayer01:02
tiglionabbitsinferno: you mean totem?01:02
anacronbigfoot1: dancing game01:02
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sinfernotiglionabbit, yes lol01:02
bigfoot1sweet01:02
sinfernotiglionabbit, im stoned srry01:02
tiglionabbitsinferno: because tome is an old text-based dungeon game01:02
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sinfernotiglionabbit, i know lol i meant totem01:02
anacronbigfoot1: www.flashflashrevolution.com there's a flash version of it01:02
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nickrud_time flies, good night01:03
Bubbling_Zombiemmm, bigfoot1 try reading through dpkg --force-help01:03
tiglionabbitsinferno: read this: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersGuideMultimedia01:03
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sinfernotiglionabbit, thanks01:03
Bubbling_Zombie(don't have to force myself, and don't want to break your installation with wild guesses ^-^)01:03
tiglionabbitsinferno: actually, I'll just explain it to you now01:03
thiswilldHas anyone got a few minutes to help a first time linux user with an installation problem? Am getting a blank screen after sucessfully setting up all components. Suspect that I cannot see screen because on first boot i changed the screen resolution from 800x600 to 1024x756??01:03
anacronbut hey, anyone? how to make stepmania run?, it says something that liblua.so cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory01:03
tiglionabbitsinferno: there are two ways to make totem play stuff.  One of them is to install gstreamer0.8-plugins, and the other is to switch from totem-gstreamer to totem-xine01:04
cledusddpquestion then.. Codecs for totem just aren't working for me.. is it illegal to hack/slash/etc to make them work for me?01:04
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tiglionabbitcledusddp: illegal?  no way01:04
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tiglionabbit!newusers01:04
ubotuhmm... newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers01:04
anacronthiswilld: press ctrl + alt + f1 and you can get console, and then change your display settings01:04
cledusddpsweet.. need to muck around then01:04
sinfernotiglionabbit, nice, thanks again01:05
tiglionabbitsinferno: if you install the packages listed in my guide, in the proprietary formats setion, you should have support for most everything in all media players01:05
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sinfernotiglionabbit, well i didnt install mplayer cause like alot of the packages were missing01:06
thiswilldanacron: won't give me a console :(01:06
tiglionabbitsinferno: patch up your sources list01:07
tiglionabbit!repositories01:07
Shorty`does anyone remember the name of the quick launch applet that allows multiple rows?01:07
ubotuwell, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:07
tiglionabbit!sources01:07
ubotuhmm... sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:07
anacronthiswilld: so it's all black?01:07
sinfernotiglionabbit, ive done that, you talkin about universe multiverse right?01:07
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tiglionabbitsinferno: yes.  And disable any unofficial or backports ones for the moment01:07
sinfernoonly thing i didnt get was W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb01:07
sinferno  MD5Sum mismatch01:07
tiglionabbitsinferno: delete the "us." in that url01:08
tiglionabbitand it should work fine01:08
sinfernook cool01:08
anacron:D01:08
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sinfernou r so smartzzzzzzzz01:08
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anacron"let's delete u.s.a and all should work fine"01:08
tiglionabbitsinferno: I've been hanging around here for weeks.  I've heard all the problems =P01:08
sinfernohehe01:08
thiswilldanacron: totally black01:09
bencledusddp - do you have ubuntu running on a mac?01:09
tiglionabbitI still don't know how to help people with usb modems or usb hard disks though01:09
PPC_Guyben: yes 2 G3/300s01:09
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anacronthiswilld: what's really weird if you can't even access console, i don't know how you might be able to fix it01:09
IceDC571doesn't smeg sound like a drug?01:10
thiswilldmight try a fresh installation01:10
IceDC571or like a disease01:10
Bubbling_Zombiemore like a disease01:10
beni've got an old imac that i'm thinking of converting, once i buy my wife a new ibook. any major issues with it?01:10
tiglionabbitsmeg sounds like a spice to me01:10
sinfernotiglionabbit, ok wait i dont get how to get that package i did apt-get and that url without us but it doesnt like tha01:10
anacronaww i got smeg :(01:10
Bubbling_Zombieor something that you cough up :)01:10
IceDC571anacron: no more sex for you01:10
Shorty`anyone?01:10
anacrondamn, i have to get rid of it01:10
tiglionabbitsinferno: I mean change it in the file /etc/apt/sources.list01:11
Nameeatersmeg is a type of sandwich meat :|01:11
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PPC_Guyben: not at all painless install. Just make sure everything you want is plugged in at install01:11
benthere's an expensive kitchen applicance label called smeg - many laughs there i bet01:11
PPC_Guyred dwarf? been a longtime01:11
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sinfernotiglionabbit, hmm should i get rid of us on all of them?01:12
tiglionabbitsinferno: yes01:12
tiglionabbithttp://www.smeguk.com/01:12
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Olyhi, can some one tell me if there is a kernel for the k6-2 i am guessing the k7 will not work :p01:12
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tiglionabbitOly: why wont the x7 work?01:12
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Olyalso could some one tell me the commandline command for adding repositories to apt-get01:13
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Olywell i guessed k7 is to new01:13
Olythe k6 is an older chip01:13
Olyor am i wrong ?01:13
Oly:p01:13
tiglionabbit!repositories01:13
ubotu[repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:13
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IceDC571i remember my AMD 350Mhz K6 Processor with 3dNOW!01:14
PPC_GuyYou are correct Oly01:14
tiglionabbitto edit your repositories list by the commandline, say "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"01:14
tiglionabbitswitch out nano with whatever editor you want01:14
Olynot quite what i mean01:14
IceDC571tiglionabbit: please, out of everything why use nano as an example?01:14
IceDC571dude01:14
schasiWhat backend does synaptic use?01:15
tiglionabbitIceDC571: he said from the commandline, what if he doesn't have xserver?01:15
Olyi know there was a command you could type to add the repository stright into the source.list01:15
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sinfernotiglionabbit, i changed it and its still going there01:15
anacronPPC_Guy: oh right, then why there's such a thing as "linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on AMD K7" when i do apt-cache search kernel01:15
manaz_Oly: apt-setup ?01:15
tiglionabbitsinferno: refresh synaptic, or say sudo apt-get update01:15
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sinfernotiglionabbit, oh sorry i didnt see it was in the url @ the top of the file aswel01:15
Olyna thats not it :p01:16
anacronPPC_Guy: actually that doesn't prove anything but anyway :D01:16
IceDC571tiglionabbit: i would try sudo openoffice.org-writer /etc/apt/sources.list01:16
IceDC571its a lot better than your stupid nano!01:16
Olythought there was something like apt-get deb sourceurl to add01:16
tiglionabbitIceDC571: oh my god, that is the worst suggestion ever01:16
Bubbling_Zombiei can do worse :')01:16
IceDC571tiglionabbit :) lol.. exactly01:16
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sinfernotiglionabbit, wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot01:17
IceDC571Bubbling_Zombie: lets see you top that01:17
manazIceDC571: or you can reboot to windows, attach ext3 drive and edit it using m$word :)01:17
Shorty`sudo sensible-editor /etc/apt/sources.list01:17
Shorty`*sits on the fence* :)01:17
Shorty`*cough* VIM *couhg*01:17
Shorty`sorry. :P01:17
IceDC571Shorty`: there's a sensible-editor command too?01:18
IceDC571Shorty`: VIM!! yay :) i love vim01:18
Shorty`*nod*01:18
Shorty`vim is sweet01:18
Shorty`I *used* to hate it01:18
IceDC571nano makes me puke01:18
Shorty`but I *love* it now01:18
tiglionabbitIceDC571: please don't tell newbies to do that.  They'll be like "Why does apt say "could not stat repository deb/rtf/null/*BOLD*/italichtml.font="Times New Roman"/"01:18
Shorty`bwhahah01:18
Shorty`ahahah01:18
raven3x7anybody has had problems with the nvidia drivers with tnt1 cards?01:18
Shorty`I never throught of that01:18
raven3x7hello btw01:18
sinfernotiglionabbit, it plays avi now but it doesnt display it01:19
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sinfernotiglionabbit, but it actually plays them01:19
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IceDC571tiglionabbit: okay okay, i'll stop now :)01:19
tiglionabbitsinferno: uh...?  how do you know it's playing if you can't see it?01:19
manazsinferno: you cannot be as a root. or allow root to attach to the X01:20
sinfernotiglionabbit, i can hear it01:20
tiglionabbitsinferno: funky...01:20
benraven3x7 - what's the error/problem?01:20
sinfernomanaz, whaa?01:20
tiglionabbitsinferno: are you running gmplayer ?01:20
sinfernotiglionabbit, no tome01:20
manazsinferno: don't run mplayer as a root user .01:20
sinfernotiglionabbit, lol tote01:20
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sinfernotiglionabbit, im using totem01:20
sinfernotiglionabbit, its running mpg and mpeg fine01:20
tiglionabbitsinferno: oh.  hmm...01:21
nikkiaraven3x7: the latest drivers do not support anything older than the Geforce 401:21
tiglionabbitsinferno: is it totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?01:21
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sinfernotiglionabbit, gstremer01:21
sinfernotiglionabbit, should i get xine too01:22
tiglionabbitsinferno: you can't have both at the same time01:22
tiglionabbitit wont let you01:22
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tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-plugins01:22
sinfernotiglionabbit, oh ill switch to xine then01:22
ubotugstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 56 kB01:22
spanglesontoastback01:22
raven3x7nikkia now thats a bit of a problem. is there any way i can get the nv drivers to center the image? because part of the screen is outside the monitor01:23
tiglionabbitsinferno: I can't give you many details on totem, because uh, currently it just fscks up my other media players when I run it01:23
benbye guys01:23
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nikkiaraven, ah, you're not using the latest drivers then :)01:23
sinfernotiglionabbit, should i not be using totem?01:23
sinfernotiglionabbit, does it blow ass or something01:23
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tiglionabbitsinferno: no no, go ahead, it's probably something stupid about my video card that's doing this01:23
rob^charming01:23
Shorty`I love having pets01:23
Shorty`if you fuck up your cooking you give it to them01:23
sinfernotiglionabbit, oh 8(01:23
tiglionabbitI mean my stupid graphics chipset01:24
nikkiaraven3x7: nvidia-settings allows you to adjust the centering, i don't know if it'll work on the TNT tho01:24
Shorty`totem wont work on my pc01:24
Shorty`fglrx issue apparently01:24
raven3x7nikkia im using the open source ones right noow... the ones on the ubuntu repository dont work with my card01:24
spanglesontoastgod is there anything simpler than the gimp?01:24
nikkiaactually, sorry, no it doesn't :/01:24
nikkiaraven3x7: try the binary ones on nvidia's site, they have a link to the latest driver for 'old' cards01:24
qt2is there a reason that i wouldnt be able to copy. say, mp3's as root into my home dir and be able to play them?01:25
sinfernoawww thats so lame when i take a screenshot totem goes blue01:25
qt2because i did that, and they wont play, unless i open xmms inside a root console.01:25
sinfernoi cant show off01:25
tiglionabbitsinferno: but if you want something to play .avis, try VLC.  totem-gstreamer and mplayer should be able to do it too01:25
tiglionabbitsinferno: there's a screenshot feature inside totem01:25
spanglesontoasthow do I make an icon in the gimp01:25
raven3x7nikkiaoh ok will do that then. i should buy a graphics card anyway though. thanks01:25
tiglionabbitsinferno: take a screenshot of totem's interface, and then paste totem's internal screenshot in the blue spot =P01:25
nikkiagah, they took the link off, but... http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html   that's the last driver that supports the TNT01:25
wzaafter 'make menuconfig' to add nic support, is there something else i should do in order for the nic hardware to be recognised?01:26
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tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: by drawing it.  Same way as in inkscape, but in inkscape you can make it an awesome SVG file instead01:26
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spanglesontoast!inkscape01:27
ubotuNo idea, spanglesontoast01:27
tiglionabbitqt2: you shouldn't have to do that, seriously.  Get beep-media-player and try it as a normal user.  If you need mp3 stuffs, get gtreamer0.8-mad01:27
nikkiaraven3x7: to be honest, i find the fact that they've dumped support for the older cards disgusting, nvidia always used to be a company that you could trust to keep supporting their old cards (there is only one nvidia card that wasn't supported prior to this latest driver update, and it was so radically different it wasn't fair to expect support anyway)01:27
tiglionabbit!info inkscape01:27
ubotuinkscape: (Vector based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.40-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3807 kB, Installed size: 14628 kB01:27
Shorty`anyone know if theres a 64bit version of flash player yet?01:28
sinfernoi used to have a voodoo 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:28
egican i use inkscape to draw diagrams (a la visio)? or should i use dia instead01:28
tiglionabbitShorty`: there isn't sorry.  A friend of mine is working on it01:28
raven3x7nikkia many thanks01:28
egiany other package best replacing visio?01:28
qt2tiglionabbit, err, i've tried it with several medial players, unless i open them via a root terminal, they wont open.01:28
nikkiaegi,. kivio ?01:28
tiglionabbitegi: well, inkscape is a generalized drawing program, while dia is very guided with tools for making diagrams01:28
tiglionabbitqt2: =\  what do they say to you?01:29
Shorty`tiglionabbit, what about w32codecs, I'd heard there'd been some development there?01:29
tiglionabbitShorty`: don't know, sorry01:29
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egithx all...01:30
tiglionabbityour best bet would be to get all the gstreamer plugins you can, and hope there's a 64 bit realplayer or something...01:30
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raven3x7nikkia : i think the tnt cards are getting rather not so usefull. but i dont think dropping geforce 3 cards was that smart a decision. they are not that old after all01:30
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nikkiaraven, i think the reasoning is that they wanted to support OpenGL 2.0 but couldn't on the older cards, still, its a bit harsh01:30
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bimberiqt2: are the files still owned by root?  if so "sudo chown *.mp3"01:31
egi!info kivio01:31
ubotukivio: (a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:1.3.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1784 kB01:31
bimberiqt2: correction: "sudo chown <youruser> *.mp3"01:32
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qt2tiglionabbit, not a word, they just.. dont play.01:32
tiglionabbitqt2: are they in your home directory?01:32
egihmm.. it seems kde won't let me install kivio by itself.01:32
NinwaIs there a Linux command that I can use to restart services (e.g apache)01:32
qt2tiglionabbit, aye.01:32
egii think i better stick to dia01:32
mamelukeNinwa, yes01:32
egi:(01:32
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nikkiaegi, if you use visio for UML, i'd suggest umbrello as a replacement too01:32
Ninwamameluke, Ok, thank you.01:32
egi!info umbrello01:32
raven3x7nikkia , its actually something you wouldn't expect of nvidia. lets hope they dont make a habbit of it01:32
ubotuumbrello: (UML modelling tool and code generator), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1757 kB, Installed size: 4856 kB01:32
mamelukeNinwa, don't u want to know the command? ;)01:32
tiglionabbitqt2: it's probably a sound thing.  If you want, you can follow this long convoluted sound setup thread, but I'm not guaranteeing it will work for you01:33
tiglionabbit!sound01:33
ubotusound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:33
Ninwamameluke, Not if you wern't going to give it without making me fine tune my question, at least I know it exists now eh? :)01:33
sinfernotiglionabbit, thanks vlc is really nice!01:33
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tiglionabbitsinferno: sure is01:33
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Ninwamameluke, Okay yeah, what is it. :)01:33
tiglionabbit!info vlc01:33
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB01:33
NinwaIf you wouldn't mind.01:33
mamelukeNinwa, there are 2 ways i know.. i'll tell you both01:34
tiglionabbitif it's for all formats, why doesn't it do quicktime and real?01:34
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tiglionabbitwhen I play quicktime in it, it crashes01:34
sinfernotiglionabbit, mpg,mpeg,avi,asf work but wmv doesnt :\01:34
mamelukeNinwa, both only work with sudo (ore as root)01:34
qt2bimberi, hm, how do i chown entire dorectory structures recursively? :P01:34
NinwaI was looking at some sort of paramater for apache itself, like apache restart, but no luck.01:34
qt2*directory01:35
sinfernotiglionabbit, it does but i can only hear it01:35
Ninwamameluke, That's expected, you're dealing with system services.01:35
cyphasecome someone give me the mod_rewrite directive to turn http://host/folder/12345 into http://host/folder/?=1234501:35
mamelukeNinwa, 1) maybe you have a command calld apachctl or apache2ctl?01:35
HappyFoolcyphase: try maybe #apache ?01:35
cgrayNinwa: "sudo /etc/init.d/foo restart" in general01:35
Ninwamameluke, Yes.01:35
mamelukeNinwa, e.g. apache2ctl restet <--- done ;)01:35
mamelukerestart01:35
mamelukesry01:35
NinwaOh, okay.01:35
qt2tiglionabbit, heh, it's a chown problem o.o;01:36
bimberiqt2 "chown -R <user> <directory>"01:36
cyphaseHappyFool, i did01:36
cyphase:)01:36
mamelukeNinwa, and the cgray was even faster then me >_<01:36
tiglionabbitqt2: glad you've solved it then01:36
qt2tiglionabbit, ;)01:36
qt2bimberi, thanks. :)01:36
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Ninwamameluke, cgray, appreciate it.01:36
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mamelukeNinwa,  /etc/init.d/apache restart01:36
mameluke:P01:36
DJ_Miragecyphase: RewriteRule ^http://host/folder/(.*)$ /index.php?p=$1 [nc] 01:37
Ninwamameluke, It doesn't seem to work, oddly.01:37
cyphasethanx DJ_Mirage01:37
spanglesontoastis alpha how big it will be?01:37
Ninwajoey@ubuntu-t20laptop:/etc/init.d$ sudo apache2 restart01:37
mamelukeNinwa, witch command?01:37
NinwaReturns the syntax help for apache201:37
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: alpha generally refers to the opacity of something01:37
Ninwaapache2ctl worked fine01:37
mamelukebut?01:37
bimberiqt2: np.  Actually for completeness you should probably change the group as well "chown -R <user>:<group> <dir>"01:37
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: low alpha means you can see through it, it'll be translucent01:37
spanglesontoasthmm how do I resize it to the normal size of my desktop icons01:38
mamelukeNinwa,  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart <- don't forget the 2 ;)01:38
qt2bimberi, would if i knew the group :P01:38
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: in what?01:38
NinwaNo right, I'm not. apache2 restart, strangely, isn't valid.01:38
spanglesontoastwell gnome01:38
spanglesontoastI want it to be the same size as the other icons01:38
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NinwaIt's non-issue, apache2ctl worked, but just weird.01:38
HappyFoolNinwa: try 'which apache2' -- probably /usr/bin/apache2 , different to /etc/init.d/apache201:38
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NinwaHappyFool, That one neither.01:39
Ninwajoey@ubuntu-t20laptop:/usr/bin$ apache2 restart01:39
NinwaUsage: apache2 [-D name]  [-d directory]  [-f file] 01:39
bimberiqt2: probably the same as your user - you can see which groups a user is in by typing "groups" (as a command).01:39
HappyFoolNinwa: no01:39
linuxboyMy firefox dies everytime I view a page with flash, but only as one user... why?01:39
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mamelukeNinwa, try with TAB, to find out how it's calles01:39
HappyFoolNinwa: 'apache2' without a path specification is probably /usr/bin/apache2, or mayb sbin/apache201:39
mamelukecalled01:39
tiglionabbitlinuxboy: because Macromedia is evil, and hates you01:39
HappyFoolNinwa: that is not the same thing as the service startup script in /etc/init.d/apache201:40
tiglionabbit(or whatever user it is that it screws up for)01:40
linuxboytiglionabbit: you're helpful...01:40
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qt2bimberi, ah, yes, thank you very much :D01:40
NinwaHappyFool, When I have apache2 and I use tab-completion it just tells me about apache2-ssl-certificate and apache2ctl, it doesn't specify the path.01:40
HappyFoolNinwa: indeed. tab completion will not tell you the path01:41
bimberiqt2: yw :)01:41
HappyFoolNinwa: 'which' does that01:41
NinwaOh! Sorry, I read which literally.01:41
djplinuxboy: have you installed the gplflash plugin for firefox?01:41
NinwaI appologize.01:41
Ninwa/usr/sbin01:41
HappyFoolNinwa: fair enough ;)01:41
linuxboydjp: no...01:41
linuxboydjp: is there an ubuntu package for it?01:42
djplinuxboy: it doesn't support anything above version 4 of flash though (i think it is version 4)01:42
tiglionabbitlinuxboy: I actually am quite helpful.  I wrote this guide: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers .  but uh, I don't really know what to do about flash crashes01:42
linuxboydjp: why only one user?01:42
NinwaWell its interesting, thanks again, I accomplished what I needed, and hey, learned about which! :o)01:42
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djplinuxboy: yes, libflash-mozplugin01:43
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linuxboydjp: thats glpflash?01:43
cgrayhow would I downgrade all packages from breezy to hoary?01:44
linuxboydjp: what repo is it in?01:44
djplinuxboy: i do not know. flash is a restricted format and i don't like it! however, i do have the gplflash plugin installed, in order to view certain pages01:44
tiglionabbitit's an open source flash plugin they're reverse-engineering.  A friend of mine is working on it01:44
djplinuxboy: universe01:44
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linuxboydjp: i got flashplugin-nonfree installed01:44
linuxboytiglionabbit: i know what glpflash is01:44
Cam-does anyone know a good program for my tv tuner?01:44
tiglionabbitI personally use the flash plugin that firefox installs automatically01:44
djptiglionabbit: bloody good job they are doing as well!01:44
cgrayCam-: tvtime01:45
tiglionabbitlinuxboy: oops, misread.  me tired01:45
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spanglesontoasthow do I remove evolution?01:45
djplinuxboy: support free software and use the gplflash plugin! ;)01:45
spanglesontoastwithout killing ubuntu01:45
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: use synaptic, search for and remove it01:45
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: with synaptic or apt-get (or aptitude)01:45
djptiglionabbit: i'm gonna tell your friend! ;)01:45
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: i removed it and mine still works ;)01:46
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: don't worry about getting rid of ubuntu-desktop.  There is actually nothing in it, and it's just meant t oround up the general packages.01:46
spanglesontoastah01:46
tiglionabbitspanglesontoast: you should get it back when you upgrade to breezy though01:46
linuxboydjp: i want to be able to play anything... not just a few things. why is mine just broken for 1 user? I deleted the .mozilla dir, and it didn't help01:46
spanglesontoastbummer01:46
spanglesontoastI hate evolution01:46
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Cam-can tvtime recognize my remote?01:46
ateveswhat burn tool would you recommend for gnome?01:47
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djplinuxboy: have you cleared the cache in firefox? just a suggestion01:47
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linuxboydjp: the cache lives in .mozilla.... i deleted it already01:48
bimberiateves: you can burn data cds via nautilus and there's also gnomebaker and graveman01:48
atevesk01:48
djplinuxboy: ahh, you deleted the entire folder got you. hmm strange... hold on...01:48
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linuxboydjp: it must be something else... I can't figure out what. I ever straced it01:49
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spanglesontoastwouldn't it be cool if thunderbird could talk to the windows machine aswell01:50
HappyFoollinuxboy: maybe backup ~/.mozilla and erase it entirely?01:50
spanglesontoastI ment grab the emails that I had seen01:50
spanglesontoaston my windoze machine01:50
linuxboyHappyFool: I did that01:50
markushi guy's i have install beep media player and i can't play mp3 but i can play with music player, any help for me ??01:50
djpHappyFool: i think he has done that already01:50
Chillouthi there, i am getting the following errormessage and dont know what to do with it:01:50
Chillout(gedit:29190): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:01:50
ChilloutAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.01:51
tiglionabbit!gstreamer0.8-mad01:51
ubotutiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?01:51
LasseLMy xmodmap.conf doesn't load on login. I post "xmodmap /ect/xmodmap.conf" in /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default. Any suggestions?01:51
tiglionabbit!info gstreamer0.8-mad01:51
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB01:51
tiglionabbitoops01:51
tiglionabbito wait, yes01:51
tiglionabbitmarkus: get that package01:51
linuxboydjp: oh yes, let me show you the error...01:51
markusok wait i will try01:51
tiglionabbit!repositories01:51
uboturepositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:51
tiglionabbitmarkus: it's in universe.  That howto will tell you how to enable it01:52
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markushow to enable it01:52
markusi have install it01:52
tiglionabbitmarkus: I mean enable the repository it's in01:52
markusgstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.01:53
markusi mean this one01:53
tiglionabbithm01:53
markushm..01:53
markusso01:53
markusbefore i'm restart my pc i can play01:53
tiglionabbituh..01:53
markusbut now can't01:53
tiglionabbitoh, it's ESD01:53
markusESD ? what's that01:54
tiglionabbitif you want, you can go through the long task of configuring sound correctly01:54
tiglionabbit!sound01:54
ubotu[sound]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:54
tiglionabbitthat forum post details it01:54
markusic01:54
Chilloutanyone knows what this message means?: (gedit:29190): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:01:54
ChilloutAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication faile01:54
markusok i will check it and come back here if not wroking01:54
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markus:)01:54
tiglionabbitmarkus: or for a quick fix, you can disable ESD completely, by saying killall esd, and turning off the sound server in system -> preferences -> sound01:55
tiglionabbityou'll want it enabled if you're gonna follow those steps though01:55
tiglionabbitESD is Enlightenment Sound Daemon, btw.  It's for mixing several sound streams together.  Unfortunately, Hoary doesn't come very well configured for it, so in its current setup it's more of a burden than a help01:56
tiglionabbitit works great for some sound cards though01:56
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markusoff01:57
markusgstreamer-properties01:57
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markusi do that01:57
markusand test it01:57
tiglionabbitwhat?01:57
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markusno one working01:57
Chillouttiglionabbit: hi, you still/again here!?... and i see the bot as well :).01:57
tiglionabbitChillout: yeah, I never sleep01:58
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Chillouttiglionabbit: :), well if u dont need it thats just great for you. mmh, could five me a hand getting my Wireless running on ubuntu?01:59
Chilloutfive = you01:59
markusany help for me01:59
Cam-ne1 familiar with this: xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.01:59
tiglionabbitChillout: if it's a usb modem, I gots no clue02:00
markus!wiki02:00
Chillouttiglionabbit: no its build in Broadcom Wireless (using a notebokk)02:00
action09hi02:00
tiglionabbitChillout: does ubuntu detect it?02:00
markus!wiki sound02:00
Chilloutu mean in the device manager?02:01
Chillouttiglionabbit: yes02:01
tiglionabbitsure, or with lspci02:01
spanglesontoastbaboon02:01
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Chillouttiglionabbit: however in'the network manager it does not appear02:01
asproanyone here use ubuntu on a powerbook?02:01
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markus!wiki media player02:01
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rob^:)02:02
tiglionabbithere's a wifi howto..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:02
tiglionabbit!wifi02:02
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:02
tiglionabbitoh cool, ubotu knows it already02:02
markus!beep02:02
ubotumarkus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:02
markusyou know before i'm restart my pc i can hear np3 but after i'm restart it can't how come ????02:03
tiglionabbitmarkus: so, you killed ESD and are trying it?02:03
markuswhat command to kill it ?02:03
tiglionabbitkillall esd02:03
Chillouttiglionabbit: ok, i think i read that already, but i failed to do anything... ill try again tho02:03
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tiglionabbitChillout: heh, sorry I couldn't be of more help02:04
anacronChillout: i might be able to help you if you have wifi problems02:04
sinfernohow do i create a script?02:04
markusohhh02:04
markusit work02:04
markusthanks02:04
markus;)02:04
sinfernowhats the command to create a script02:04
tiglionabbitmarkus: okay, that means you need to follow that sound faq to make things work right for you02:05
tiglionabbit!sound02:05
ubotuI heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206302:05
markusok02:05
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markusthanks for help02:05
markusgod bless you02:05
tiglionabbityou're welcome.  And if you turned off ESD in the gui, turn it back on for that guide02:05
anacronChillout: so do you have wlan problems?02:05
Cam-why is my video overlay not working?02:06
tiglionabbitoverlay?02:06
Cam-is v4l installed by default on ubuntu?02:06
Cam-yer02:06
Cam-tvtime wont work because i cant get video overlay02:06
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Cam-wouldnt happen to have anything to do with xv not working02:08
Cam-would it?02:08
Tsukasawell you can check if xv works02:08
Tsukasaby typing xvinfo02:08
Cam-Multimedia Systems Selector gives me a02:09
Cam-Failed to construct test pipeline for XWindows (x11/XShm/Xv)02:09
tiglionabbitwell, goodnight guys02:09
TsukasaCam-, that's normal02:09
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tiglionabbitgood luck with stuff02:09
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Cam-screen #002:09
Cam- no adaptors present02:09
eruinis gksudo taking ages to start up on other peoples breezy ?02:10
TsukasaCam-, well, then xv is not enabled02:10
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eruinand has anyone else successfulyl set up ati drivers on breezy? I'm used to the simplicity of nvidia o.O02:10
Cam-and that can be rectified how?02:10
spanglesontoastis it possible to make the system sounds come through esd?02:11
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TsukasaCam-, by editing the xorg.conf and adding the line Option "VideoOverlay" "on" in the device section for the graphic adapter02:11
Cam-spangle: in Multimedia Systems Selector02:11
Cam-you can select the Default Sink02:11
Cam-Tsukasa: thanks man :)02:11
flooI've just compiled my own kernel using make-kpkg but the nvidia driver won't work.  What should I do?02:11
TsukasaCam-, note that when you're  using the ati drivers you cannot enable OpenGL Overlay and Video Overlay at the same time02:12
spanglesontoast!sink02:12
ubotuspanglesontoast: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:12
Cam-so02:12
Cam-eg02:12
Cam-i cant play games, and use xv?02:12
Cam-eg: i cant watch movies or tv lol02:12
Tsukasawell, you can play games02:12
Tsukasabut they're slower02:12
spanglesontoastwhat does default source do02:13
TsukasaI've to switch configuration every time I want to play, so I gave up on playing in linux and change back to windows every time02:13
Tsukasaperformance of the ati driver is really pitiful too02:13
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mynameisjonasjust installed hoary and loving it. Got everything set up just the way I like it. One problem really buggine me though is i get a complete system hang whenever i try to visit the wiki https://ubuntulinux.org/wiki in firefox. Although i can still move the mouse, I cant CTRL-ALT F2 to switch to a virtual term or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart X. Weird eh? Any ideas how I should go about troubleshooting this?02:15
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MafiI need help with amule. I always get connection lost when I try to connect02:15
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floomyname is jonas:  Do you have the nvidia driver installed02:16
mynameisjonasi certainly do floo02:16
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floook, then your problem might be agp related02:16
ram_einsteinI can't export my contacts from Evolution as csv using evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv02:16
floosudo gedit /etc/X11Xorg.conf02:16
ram_einsteinbecause it produces several blank lines and the error "FIXME: wait for completion unimplemented"02:17
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paxmynameisjonas: if your system freezes, try to install the right driver for your graphics card.02:17
Belutzanyone use gaim?02:17
TsukasaBelutz, yes02:17
ram_einsteinwhere did I go wrong?02:17
TsukasaBelutz, but the one from repository :)02:17
mynameisjonasits only that particular site at the moment and it is 100% reproducable even in failsafe gnome02:17
raven3x7does anyone know if nvidia drivers need only the headers to compile or also the source code?02:17
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BelutzTsukasa, how can i make the icon in buddy list smaller? and can gaim give visual alert when someone is online or offline?02:18
HappyFoolraven3x7: you should only need linux-headers-<whatever>02:18
MafiI need help with amule. I always get connection lost when I try to connect and I get this error on every server from the list02:18
mynameisjonasfloo - what am i looking for in xorg.conf? the agp section?02:18
floothen underneath "nvidia" type this "option" "NvAgp" "0"02:18
spanglesontoastwhat other programs are fun to use nicotine was fun02:18
TsukasaBelutz, Settings -> Contact list -> Show Buddy Icon (check it off)02:18
raven3x7k HappyFool thanks02:18
floono the 'Device section'02:18
Tsukasait will disable the buddy icon though02:18
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Chillouthi, how do i untar a file within the shell?02:18
Tsukasabut makes the list smaller02:18
floofind "nvidia"02:18
mynameisjonascool thx, will give it a go now02:18
floothen reboot02:19
floogood luck02:19
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mynameisjonasi'm happy editing config files, my other car is a gentoo box02:19
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floook02:19
TsukasaBelutz, about visual notifictation, try the plugin "notification"02:19
BelutzTsukasa, yup, buddy icon off is much better now :)02:19
BelutzTsukasa, do i have to download the plugin first?02:20
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TsukasaBelutz, I think the plugin comes with the package02:20
mynameisjonasok to restart x and give it a go now02:20
Chillouthow do i untar a file from within in the shell? or is there a way to use the GUI with root rights?02:20
mynameisjonascheers floo02:20
Magius what does Eroor for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed on device ath0; Invalid argument. ??02:20
TsukasaChillout, tar -xvf02:20
Magiusmean02:20
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birgithi! I'm installing ubnuntu and I just have one small network problem.. I try to set static dns but it always reverts to 192.168.1.1 after a little while which doesn't work very well.. any hints?02:20
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ChilloutTsukasa: thy, i'll try that02:21
raven3x7one more quick question how do i shut down x? alt+ctrl+backspace only restarts it.02:21
Tsukasaraven3x7, killall gdm02:21
overtureswitch to a console02:21
raven3x7ok thanks02:21
BelutzTsukasa, ok i'm trying it02:22
apokryphosbirgit: have you tried doing it this way? http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probstaticip02:22
overturethen just kill X or whatever manages x sessions for you (gdm/kdm, etc)02:22
birgitapokryphos, no I'll try :)02:22
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kbrookshey02:24
cyphaseWindows 95: A 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that cant take 1-bit of competition.02:24
kbrookslol02:24
kbrookscyphase, i heard that02:25
spanglesontoasthow do I put a new font in?02:25
ubuntuwhere can I find soundcard drivers for Ubuntu? My soundcard is Swissonic Inca28.02:25
kbrooksuh, ubuntu 5.04?02:25
jf6HELLLO02:25
kbrooksor kubuntu?02:25
spanglesontoastubuntu02:26
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kbrooksok02:26
kbrooks*checks*02:26
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birgitapokryphos, I'll try adding a dns-nameservers there then?02:27
kbrooksappears you cant put a new font in.....use synaptic, perhaps there is a package for the font you need/want,02:27
kbrooksspanglesontoast, but icbw02:27
apokryphosbirgit: if that's what you want to change, then sure02:27
spanglesontoastdo I have to be a root?02:27
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kbrookser wait spanglesontoast02:28
ram_einsteinum... can anyone help me export my evolution addressbook as csv?02:28
spanglesontoast?02:28
klaymhow can I disable w3m bew browser? its buggering me that it opens up everytime I open a link in xchat02:28
klaym*w3m web browser02:29
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sjmurdochubuntu: Is a a PCI card?02:30
spanglesontoast?02:30
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kbrooksRaptoid, who are you02:31
Raptoidfine you ?02:31
kbrooksspanglesontoast, sounds like there is a fonts folder02:31
kbrooksRaptoid, *who*02:31
spanglesontoastbah02:31
spanglesontoastwhere?02:31
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kbrooksi dont know the EXACT path to it02:32
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: have you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto02:32
spanglesontoastah02:32
spanglesontoastdw02:32
spanglesontoastlol02:32
mynameisjonasanybody shed any light on my ubuntuliunx.org/wiki problem?02:32
kbrooksbut fonts:///02:32
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HappyFoolspanglesontoast: that offers a means for user- (non-root) installation02:32
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HappyFoolmynameisjonas: what problem is that?02:34
spanglesontoastk02:34
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sinfernosay i want to chmod and change every file in every folder in a directory wouldnt it be chmod -r 77702:34
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atevescan i mount a win partition so that i can write data on it?02:35
ubuntuI repeat my question. Where can I find soundcard drivers for Ubuntu? My soundcard is Swissonic Inca28. And why my Ubuntu Linux doesn't recognize my soundcard at all?02:35
Tsukasasinferno: yep, sudo chmod -r 777 *02:35
HappyFoolsinferno: -R02:35
sjmurdochubuntu: Is it a PCI card?02:35
kbrooksTsukasa, r != R02:35
Tsukasasry, faulty caps :\02:35
HappyFoolubuntu: you can *try* installing the latest alsa from www.alsa-project.org02:35
Tsukasa^^02:35
HappyFoolateves: only FAT partitions, not NTFS02:36
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ateveshmpf02:36
HappyFoolubuntu: they have a list of supported cards there02:36
mynameisjonashappyfool - i get a major hang when i use firefox to go to the wiki. I can still move the mouse but can't restart X using CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or change to a virtual term with CTRL-ALT-F202:36
kbrooksateves, you can try writing to it, but its inadvisible02:37
mynameisjonasnumlock and capslock keys don't work02:37
HappyFoolateves: there are windows programs for reading ext3 partitions -- search for explore2fs and ext2fsd02:37
mynameisjonaseverything else is fine02:37
kbrooksbehavior is undefined02:37
atevesok, thx02:37
HappyFoolmynameisjonas: eek02:37
ubuntuyes it is pci card, http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_swissonic_inca_28_prodinfo.html.02:37
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mynameisjonasits just when i try to visit the wiki02:37
Tsukasamynameisjonas, try lynx for the meantime :)02:37
P3L|C4N0ubotu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards02:37
ubotuI haven't a clue, P3L|C4N002:37
mynameisjonaswiki02:37
Tsukasamynameisjonas, to access the wiki02:37
dmgunnhello, sorry for my newbie nesss,  what does it mean when synaptic says "Warning, you are about to install software that can't be authenticated"02:37
ubuntuHappyFool I'll check there. :] 02:37
HappyFoolmynameisjonas: what about other https sites?02:37
Nameeaterhow do you mount NFTS in readonly ? :>02:37
Tsukasadmgunn, it means you're installing unofficial software02:37
sjmurdochubuntu: Try running "lspci" and look for your card there. See if it tells you information on what chip is used02:37
P3L|C4N0ubotu, soundcards is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards02:38
ubotu...but soundcards is already something else...02:38
mynameisjonasthats what i thought as well, but its fine with my online banking02:38
kbrooksubotu, soundcards02:38
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, soundcards is ""http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards/""02:38
HappyFooldmgunn: or you had a hiccough in repo updating. try 'reload' in synaptic, or 'sudo apt-get update'02:38
kbrooksP3L|C4N0, ^^^^^^^^^^^^02:38
BelutzHappyFool, in synaptic, there are some icons that has a star, what does it means?02:38
Olybut cant rememis there an auto answer yes for apt-get command ?02:38
HappyFoolBelutz: um, i think it means the package comes with dpkg-reconfigure support02:38
Olyis there an auto answer yes for apt-get command ?02:38
TsukasaBelutz, highly official (k)ubuntu software02:38
kbrooksOly,02:38
kbrooksyes02:38
HappyFoolBelutz: i think synaptic help has a 'legend' option02:38
Olywaz what i was supposed to say :p02:38
dmgunnis it "ok" to install unofficial software?  What will it do?02:38
Belutzok02:39
Tsukasadmgunn, in most cases it won't harm your system02:39
Olywhat is it then ? i tried --force-yes02:39
kbrooksdmgunn, in rare cases it can break your system02:39
dandanyone here could help me "recover" my wiki name in launchpad? (i'm only allowed DanDamian4, not sure why DanDamian it's taken)02:39
Tsukasadmgunn, it's just a notice that the source is not verified by the ubuntu team02:39
Olydoes not seem todo what i wanted02:39
kbrooksOly, -y02:40
Olyoh right would be somethign simple :p02:40
dmgunnTsukasa, thanks very much... Is there a way in synaptic to list all the stuff that is verified by the Ubuntu team?02:40
HappyFooldand: maybe email a wiki admin (is there such an address on the wiki page?)02:40
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kbrooksdmgunn, No.02:40
spanglesontoastwhy does xmms just freeze when I try to play an mp3?02:40
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Olythxs kbrooks :)02:40
MagiusAnyone else have trouble with atheros wireless in 5.04?02:41
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: tell it to use ESD for the output plugin. somewhere in preferences02:41
dmgunnthanks guys02:41
Tsukasaspanglesontoast, maybe a conflict in the sound daemons02:41
sinfernook i just did chmod -R /usr/ and my usr dir vanished02:41
spanglesontoasthmmm02:41
sinfernoim scared02:41
sinfernolol02:41
HappyFoolsinferno: what was the exact command?02:41
kbrookssinferno, define vanished02:41
dandHappyFool: thanks, i'll try do that. i gave irc a quick shot :)02:41
sinfernook i typed it in wrong02:42
Bubbling_Zombietry starting it with the commandline spanglesontoast and see what the output says02:42
kbrookssinferno, -R does NOT remove02:42
sinfernokbrooks, i did sudo chmod -R /usr/ forgetting to put 77702:42
HappyFooldand: fair enough. you may not get any response until tomorrow (it is weekend)02:42
kbrookslol02:42
spanglesontoastlibmikmod.so.202:42
Tsukasasinferno, then just do the same with 777 again ;)02:42
sinfernokbrooks, and it is gone now02:42
kbrookssinferno, define gone!02:42
kbrookswhat do you mean by "gone"02:42
sjmurdochubuntu: This suggests there isn't support for the Inca 28 in Linux http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/archive/index.php/t-184586.html02:43
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kbrooksas in erased, or?02:43
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sinfernono i didnt erase02:43
sinfernocharles@slacker:~$ sudo chmod -r 777 /usr02:43
sinfernochmod: cannot access `777': No such file or directory02:43
sinfernowt02:43
Tsukasachmod -R02:43
sinfernoam i typing tha right02:43
kbrookssinferno, 777 doesnt exist02:43
Tsukasalike R in "ARRRRR"02:43
sinfernoi know02:43
kbrooksTsukasa, /usr exists02:43
kbrookser02:43
sinfernook02:43
kbrookssinferno, *02:43
sinfernoi think i got it maybe02:43
ubuntusjmurdoch, lspci tells me that mys soundcard manufactor is Hint Corp. Who's that?02:43
kbrookssinferno, why 777  /usr02:44
MagiusAnyone else have trouble with atheros wireless?02:44
kbrooks??02:44
HappyFoolsinferno: it is not a wise idea to set 777 for /usr, anyway02:44
sinfernokbrooks, so my games can write to it02:44
Tsukasakbrooks, I know that /usr exists02:44
sinfernokbrooks, what should i set it to02:44
kbrookssinferno, leave it alone02:44
HappyFoolMagius: have you looked on the wiki ? best i can do, i don't have wireless02:44
Tsukasasinferno, normally your games should be able to do so by default02:44
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sinfernosoo what should i set it back to02:44
sinfernoi already changed it what was it @02:44
sinferno755?02:44
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HappyFoolsinferno: maybe02:45
kbrookssinferno, 76602:45
sjmurdochubuntu: That is odd - could you paste the whole output of lspci here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:45
HappyFoolsinferno: you've made everything executable02:45
sinfernocharles@slacker:~$ sudo chmod -R 766 /usr02:45
sinfernosudo: must be setuid root02:45
sinfernoyeah i think i just fucked myself02:45
kbrookssinferno, no, you didnt fuck yourself02:45
sinfernomy gnome is freezing02:45
HappyFoolsinferno: oh -- you've removed setuid bits on programs too.02:46
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sinfernoahhh02:46
sinfernohow do i fix02:46
sinfernolol02:46
sinfernoomfg02:46
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kbrookssinferno, do not ever run any command without READING THE ASSOCIATED MANUAL PAGE of the command02:46
HappyFoolsinferno: to be honest, the most pain-free way would be to reinstall02:46
atevescan i add KDE to ubuntu so that i can access KDE via the login screen?02:47
kbrookssinferno, deal?02:47
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Tsukasaateves, yes, apt-get install kde02:47
sinfernoHappyFool, whats the other way02:47
HappyFoolsinferno: otherwise get some to mail you a 'ls -lR' of /usr, boot into recovery mode and set the perms on each file02:47
ateveswill it be available at the login?02:47
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Tsukasaateves, it will automatically be added to the "Session" button on the login screen02:47
atevesok02:47
kbrookssinferno, ill send you that.02:47
kbrookshang on02:47
HappyFoolsinferno: i'm guessing there are ~1000 files (maybe many more) in /usr, so that could take a while02:47
Chillouthi there, where can i download an .inf file for my broadcom wireless card? i am about to configure this ndiswrapper..02:47
kbrookssinferno, then again02:48
TsukasaChillout, what do you intend to do with an .inf file?02:48
kbrookssinferno, dude. what games cant access /usr?02:48
sinfernokbrooks, descent302:48
sinfernokbrooks, dammit this blows i cant believe i did that02:48
kbrookssinferno, well:02:48
sinfernokbrooks, i mean how bad could it be?02:48
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kbrooksdo not ever run any command without READING THE ASSOCIATED MANUAL PAGE of the command02:48
sinfernokbrooks, if everything is executable so what02:49
HrdwrBoBkbrooks: well, you can02:49
raven3x7hi again02:49
HrdwrBoBjust don't complain about it afterwards02:49
ChilloutTsukasa: i am following this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto . want to get my wireless card working02:49
raven3x7im still stuggling with the nvidia drivers.02:49
kbrookssinferno, bad for ubuntu02:49
Magiuschannel was wrong on the install....Install program should ask what channel your wireless is on02:49
kbrookssinferno, now lets reinstall.02:49
raven3x7i could use some help with the conf file02:49
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ubuntusjmurdoch, I don't speak german so I didn't get the "message", but it seems that I've got to put my old Yamaha soundcard back to the business... :D Thanks anyway...02:50
kbrookssinferno, also,02:50
Sinclairhi02:50
sjmurdochubuntu: I think it is likely that if Ubuntu supported your card it would autodetect it02:50
sjmurdochubuntu: But it is possible that the card chipset is made by someone else, which Linux does support02:51
TsukasaChillout, http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/downloaddrivers.php - just unpack them manually02:51
sjmurdochubuntu: That is why I was interested in the lspci output02:51
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sjmurdochubuntu: It is odd that "Hint Corp" is in the output for the card, since I didn't  think they made sound chips02:51
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ubuntusjmurdoch, might be...;)  but who is Hint Corp?02:52
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sjmurdochubuntu: They make PCI bridges02:53
ChilloutTsukasa: ty, ill try that02:53
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sjmurdochubuntu: Could you paste the whole output of lspci here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:53
raven3x7i have compiled the drivers but a restart gives a fatal error 11 from the xserver. any ideas?02:53
ubuntusjmurdoch. the whole output?02:54
kbrooksyes02:54
kbrooksall of it02:54
Tsukasaraven3x7, misconfigurated xorg.conf or broken drivers02:54
kbrooksat the pastebin02:54
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Tsukasaraven3x7, you can always fall back on the mesa drivers in case of emergency02:54
sjmurdochubuntu: Run lspci and paste all of it into that URL02:54
sjmurdochubuntu: It shouldn't be too much02:54
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ubuntuok, pasted02:55
sjmurdochubuntu: Then paste the URL you are sent to into this channel02:55
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kbrookslink?02:55
sjmurdochubuntu: It will be something like "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/471"02:55
raven3x7Tsukasa you mean nv? thats what im using now02:55
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raven3x7brb gonna give it another try02:57
ubuntusjmurdoch, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/47202:58
nick__right it just happened when i logged into amazon02:58
birgitanyone got problems installing libcairo?02:58
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mynameisjonasso its got to be a https thing02:58
spanglesontoasti can't believe distrowatch hasn't heard of podcasting02:58
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spanglesontoasti just dropped them an email02:59
spanglesontoast:)02:59
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ubuntusjmurdoch, Ubuntu03:00
ubuntusjmurdoch, Ubuntu's Device Manager call's this pci-soundcard unknown device...03:00
dmgunnis there a way to only list packages that are ubuntu verified, for example, can we somehow remove repositories that arent ubuntu verified03:00
ethicshey all, i have a debian laptop i want to go to ubuntu with, is there an easi upgrade path to it?03:00
sjmurdochubuntu: It appears to be a AudioTrak soundcard03:01
HappyFooldmgunn: remove everything that isn't archive.ubuntu.com03:01
ubuntusjmurdoch, and?03:01
HappyFooldmgunn: the repository list is in /etc/apt/sources.list03:01
HappyFooldmgunn: have you consciously added non-ubuntu repositories?03:01
dmgunnHappyFool, thanks the repository list is also in synaptic, so I'll just use the nice GUI to do it... thanks03:02
HappyFooldmgunn: fair enough03:02
ChilloutTsukasa: are you shure this page has the downloads for the wireless cards??? coz it says sth about ethernet....03:02
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HappyFooldmgunn: it may be possible to get the gpg keys for non-ubuntu repositories03:02
birgitis this broken? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb03:02
spanglesontoastbrb03:02
HappyFoolmynameisjonas: sorry, lost track a bit there -- you've got problems with other https sites too?03:02
dmgunnHappyFool: what does that mean?03:02
xlsMessengerwhat does dist-upgrade do?03:02
HappyFoolbirgit: us.archive is broken -- change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list03:03
HappyFooldmgunn: i think this is mentioned in the wiki -- stand by03:03
sjmurdochubuntu: I still can't find any drivers for it03:03
HappyFooldmgunn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTAuthentication and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary03:03
TsukasaChillout, out of the amount of information there's no other driver downloadpage03:04
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ubuntusjmurdoch, I thought so... :(03:04
TsukasaChillout, are you sure your wlan card is by broadcom? I'd rather say your router is03:04
ChilloutTsukasa: ok03:04
birgitHappyFool, ok ubuntuguide.org should be updated then03:04
ethicshey all, i have a debian laptop i want to go to ubuntu with, is there an easi upgrade path to it?03:04
HappyFooldmgunn: this does require the repo admin to have a key -- this may not be true for backports, e.g.03:04
ogotthi, can somebody tell me where i can find information on ubuntu .deb packages?03:04
HappyFoolbirgit: it's probably (hopefully?) temporary03:04
HappyFoolbirgit: bear in mind that it's the weekend03:04
yonilhow can i make an application run as root no matter which user runs it ?03:05
Tsukasaogott, what kind of information? descriptions of packages from repositories can be found via synaptic03:05
xlsMessengeranyone..., what does dist-upgrade do?03:05
ubuntusjmurdoch, but hey. Thanks anyway..:D03:05
birgitHappyFool, ok :)03:05
ogottTsukasa: i didn't install ubuntu yet, i want some info on the packages first on the net...03:05
HappyFoolxlsMessenger: it's used for upgrading a distribution, say from warty (ubutun 4.10) to hoary (ubuntu 5.04)03:06
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ogottTsukasa: and yes, i mean descriptions, versions, etc. like on packages.debian.org03:06
HappyFoologott: packages.ubuntu.com ;)03:06
ogottHappyFool: ...03:06
epI get sound on login so i know it can work, however multimedia streams, movies, audio CD's etc. will not play any sound stream.03:06
ogottHappyFool: thanks, i03:06
epjuK gves this error message: Error initializing sound server. Totem: Could not open resource for writing.03:07
ogottHappyFool: thanks, i'm quite dumb from time to time...03:07
epHow can I fix this?03:07
masonjust installed 5.04 and modem is not running at 56k.03:07
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ogottHappyFool: wtf? that's .com?03:07
xlsMessengerHappyFool, i'm on hoary now, so i shouldn't run apt-get dist-upgrade at all, right?03:07
HappyFoologott: err, yeah. i think that url is right03:08
ogottHappyFool: maybe i'm not that dumb. i just can't believe that03:08
HappyFoolxlsMessenger: no03:08
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ogottHappyFool: yeah, it is. that's why i didn't find it :/03:08
HappyFoologott: that works here03:08
HappyFoologott: oh, right ;)03:08
ogottHappyFool: thanks again!03:08
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masonhow do i set modem speed to 56k?03:11
yonilhow can i make an application run in startup ?03:11
sjmurdochubotu: It would be worthwhile if you (nicely) contact Swissonic and ask them for Linux support. The more people who ask, the more likely it is that they will03:11
ubotusjmurdoch: I think you lost me on that one03:11
ogottyonil: in KDE?03:12
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yonilogott, nope ..03:12
yonilogott, gnome03:12
ogottyonil: oh, ok03:12
sjmurdochAh, ubuntu left03:12
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yonilogott, why does it matter ? i wont it to run as a daemon before gnome even starts anyway ..03:12
grogoreohi03:13
LasseLcan I make VLC disable the screensaver?03:13
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monkanybody here use kino?03:13
grogoreoI used alien to convert a tarball file to a deb. I installed it and everything was ok, but it has been installed into the / . How do i un-install the package with dpkg?03:14
ogottyonil: oh, ok that makes it easier (never really used gnome)03:14
ogottyonil: you can create a init script03:14
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yonilogott, where should i place it ?03:14
ogottyonil: there should be a file called /etc/init.d/skeleton03:14
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ogottyonil: it's a template what it should look like03:14
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yonilogott, i see... once i create it, where should i place it ?03:15
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ogottyonil: put it in /etc/init.d03:15
yonilogott, aight thanks ! :)03:15
ogottyonil: and in /etc/rc3.d should be a link to it called "S99script"03:15
ogottyonil: then it will be executed at last when the system enters runlevel 303:16
ogottyonil: /etc/rc#.d are the other runlevels03:16
yonilogott, i need a runlevel in which the network works already, do you know which one is it ? (its automatic with dhcp)03:16
HappyFooldefault ubuntu runlevel is 2, afaik03:17
ogottoh, thanks03:17
ogottnot using ubuntu yet...03:17
epHow is it possible that I get sound on login, but I can't play any audio file (i.e. wav or ogg) and movies play without sound?03:17
HappyFoolep: what player are you using?03:17
action09_hi03:17
epAs soon as I find one that works -- thats the one i'll use.03:18
HappyFoolep: i mean, which one have you tested ;)03:18
action09_i've got an error with amule:03:18
HappyFooldoes 'Music Player' not play ogg files?03:18
action09_amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:18
epI got amarok juk totem mplayer xmms03:18
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epmusic play doesn't play ogg files correct03:19
HappyFoolep: hmm. how about something like 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' ? does that work?03:19
action09_anyone has an idea please ?03:19
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HappyFoolaction09: how did you install amule?03:19
action09_apt-get install amule03:19
ogottaction09_: what says "locate libwx_gtk-2.4.so"03:19
action09_i've universe/multiverse and backports (as in the guide)03:20
action09_locate libwx_gtk-2.4.so03:20
ogottyonil: still here?03:20
action09_/usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.103:20
cyphaseHappyFool, you need root privleges though03:20
epthat works happy fool03:20
yonilogott, sure03:20
cyphasesudo apt-get install amule03:20
HappyFoolcyphase: for?03:20
cyphaseto install software03:20
HappyFoolcyphase: oh, i think he's done that already03:20
ogottaction09_: you should create a link to /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 called /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.003:20
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ogottthat should do the trick03:20
HappyFoolcyphase: i was trying to find out if he maybe did 'dpkg -i --super-force-even-if-it-won't-work' or something03:21
action09_ogott  to it.. great thx03:21
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ogottaction09_: good luck, hope it workd03:21
HappyFoolep: ok, what does 'pgrep esd' say?03:21
ogottyonil: ok, what exactely do you wanna do?03:21
action09_ogott segfault :)03:21
ogottaction09_; damn, remove the link :(03:21
ep$ pgrep esd  nothing03:22
HappyFoolep: hmm03:22
ogottaction09_; sorry, most times that does the trick/03:22
yonilogott, i wanna run a daemon whenever i boot the computer (the daemon is sending my ip to a server)03:22
HappyFoolep: try 'esd'  -- it should play an annoying test sound, and then wait03:22
action09_ogott  yes thx anyway :)03:22
HappyFoolep: if that works, try 'Music Player' again with an ogg file03:23
ogottaction09_: np :p03:23
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epyes that play annoying sound -- i'm waiting for the prompt.... still03:23
HappyFoolep: it won't return03:23
epctrl c03:23
ep?03:23
HappyFoolep: it's a daemon running in foreground03:24
HappyFoolyeah03:24
HappyFoolthat'll work ;)03:24
HappyFoolit needs to be running for apps like 'Music Player' to work03:24
HappyFoolunless you force the apps to use alsa03:24
epoh03:24
action09_ogott  i could try xmule or another p2p application, i need to d/l an iso from creative for my sound blaster live 5.1 , adn yo CAN'T have the xp drivers if you haven't the original cd.. great :( thx03:24
HappyFoolep: we're still testing03:24
eplet me try the tes03:24
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epi'll rerun it03:24
HappyFoolep: esd *should* start automatically -- i don't know why it isn't03:24
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spanglesontoasthmm odd xmms won't play anything from samba is that odd?03:25
ogottaction09_: wtf? that's strange. creative...03:25
ramiro#ubuntud03:25
action09_damn others do'nt worjk.. same errot 0003:25
action09_error03:25
ramiro#ubuntu03:25
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CarinArrhi, i'm using ubuntu 64 on an amd64 processor, have just installed the nvidia drivers, and they install find IF i tell them not to install 32 bit compatibility stuff.. but will this mean i'll run into problems running certain applications?03:26
ramiro#ubuntu -es03:26
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epi've never used music player -- it seems to want a play list  grrr cant find an option to just play a file03:26
HappyFoolep: ok, never mind03:26
HappyFoolep: try xmms, but change the output plugin to esd03:26
spanglesontoastwhy does xmms not play anything off another machine03:26
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HappyFoolspanglesontoast: does it give an error message?03:27
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spanglesontoasterm not that I know of03:27
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spanglesontoastah03:27
spanglesontoastlibmp4v203:28
spanglesontoastdoes that exist?03:28
epHappyFool, ok i just clicked on a wav fire and my default player "Totem" now works formally i got an "error writting to device" message.03:28
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HappyFoolep: err, "works formally" ?03:28
HappyFooloh, formerly ;)03:28
onkarshindeDoes anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.03:28
epI mean before running esd it didn't work03:28
spanglesontoastyea xmms just won't play the file from another machine03:29
HappyFoolep: yeah, sorry, i thought you'd gone on math-speak on me03:29
eplol03:29
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ramirohola03:29
ubuntuWinshola hola ye03:29
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ramirode donde sos?03:30
gantcciao03:30
gantchola03:30
ramirohola03:30
ramirode donde sos?03:30
gantcno se03:30
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ramiroque loco03:30
gantcclaro que si03:31
ramirode que pais eres?03:31
gantcitalia03:31
gantcy tu?03:31
ramiroargentina03:31
epHow do i get esd setup automatically?  I should note I have installed kubuntu desktop...  However sound doesn't work in gnome either.03:31
gantcque estas buscando?03:31
ramiroaprender algo de linux03:31
gantcyo tambien03:32
ramirojaja03:32
ramiroy tu que sabes?03:32
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gantcme gustaria ver DVD03:32
ramiropara que me ensees03:32
action09_ogott  i post :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=248789#post24878903:32
gantcen espanol?03:32
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AlPmoin03:33
ogottaction09_: good luck with that one!03:33
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gantcque disto tienes?03:33
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ramiroubuntu03:33
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ogottaction09_: but you installed it with apt-get and it doesn't work? that's strange...03:33
AlPI just built a kernel 2.6.12.2 using make-kpkg --revision 0.2 --append-to-version vdr kernel_image03:33
action09_yes03:33
action09_: (03:33
gantctambien03:33
gantcme gusta mas que debian original03:34
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AlPif I install the resulting kernel, there is an "n" appended" to the version in /lib/modules/03:34
AlP2.6.12.2vdrn ...03:34
nerdI just installed ubuntu for the first time. why did it not ask me for a root password during install?03:34
nerdhow can i log in as root now?03:34
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AlPdoes anyone know anything about this behavior?03:34
epHappyFool, are we done?  Where/how do i configure my sound server, esd03:34
monkanyone using kino? ( i know i already asked - just seeing if anyone is looking now that wasn't a couple minutes ago )03:34
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HappyFoolep: oh sorry03:35
HappyFoolep: um, let me just take a quick look at where/how esd starts (if i can find it...)03:35
epthanks :)03:35
gantcramiro tu puede ver DVD en kaffeine?03:35
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Zugwrackcan anyone tell me if there is a way to install Hoary PPC with a command line switch that tells it to use hdb for the bootstrap?03:35
nerdAny one? why does ubuntu not ask for a root password during install???03:35
AlPnerd, there is no such thing as a root-Passwort regulary, just an admin-user, who is able to sudo things.03:35
Zugwracknerd: Ubuntu uses sudo default03:36
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epi don't know if it matters, but i installed kubuntu-desktop and use kde most (sound didn't / doesnt work in gnome either)03:36
monkbut there *is* a root user who is disabled by default.03:36
HappyFoolep: oh03:36
HappyFoolep: ah03:36
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Chillouthi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?03:36
HappyFoolep: i should've asked about that ;)03:36
nerdokay, thanks guys.03:36
ZugwrackAny of you running PPC?03:36
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Chilloutso far i am using "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222"03:36
asd#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team03:37
HappyFoolep: kde uses 'artsd', not esd afaik03:37
asd#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team03:37
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Chilloutbut the only appear in media folder then03:37
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Discipulusasd, quit spamming03:37
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lifelesssomone ban that please03:37
onkarshindenerd: There is no default root account in Ubuntu. Instead the first account you create can use sudo03:37
Discipulussomeone ban him?03:37
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nerdthanks onkarshinde :)03:37
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gantcromiro donde estas?03:38
HappyFoolep: are you in kde right now?03:38
epyes03:38
ramiroes una ventana privadad03:38
ramirono te salio?03:38
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gantcno03:38
Magiusmouse pad doesn't work,,,,Any Ideas?03:38
PPowerI cant seem to get my network card up using the pre compiled version in Ubuntu. Its a belkin FD700003:38
gantccomo se hace?03:38
Bubbling_Zombieuse ndiswrapper PPower03:38
PPower?03:38
epthe esd dameon is still running03:38
PPowerI am03:38
onkarshindeDoes anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.03:38
HappyFoolep: ok, kill it03:38
ArCHoNKoGwhat app would play avi files ?03:38
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HappyFoolep: i'm not familiar with artsd, unforunately03:39
epctrl c again or kill03:39
onkarshindeArCHoNKoG: Try VLC03:39
HappyFoolctl-c03:39
Bubbling_Zombiewith the right windows drivers (check the list on ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net)03:39
HappyFoolep: whatever stops it ;)03:39
PPowerYes03:39
epi can check #kubuntu03:39
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HappyFoolep: then try 'pgrep artsd' ?03:39
PPowerIt identifies everything03:39
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HappyFoolep: yeah, good idea03:39
ramirofijate al lado de la pestaa que estas ahora03:39
ramirosi no te sale una con mi nombre03:39
HappyFoolep: i can't find where esd is started in gnome, anyway03:39
gantcramiro hacemos pruebas, me gustaria veerla03:39
ramirolo que sucede es quye no tengo dvd en mi pc03:39
HappyFoolep: maybe logout/login again to kde, and try 'artsd' again too03:40
ramiroasi que ninca probe03:40
HappyFoolag03:40
onkarshindeDoes anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.03:40
HappyFoolep: i meant 'pgrep artsd'03:40
Bubbling_Zombiewhat does ndiswrapper -l tell you?03:40
egi!info kino03:40
eppgrep artsd gives '8426'03:40
ubotukino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 1293 kB, Installed size: 4092 kB03:40
monkHappyFool: i think it's in gnome-control-center03:40
gantcno tiengo suerte03:40
bob2onkarshinde: very likely a winmodem03:40
PPowerDriver found, Hardware found or whatever it is supposed to say if it found the hard ware and driver03:40
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bob2onkarshinde: I'd guess it's a i810m03:40
monk"Enable sound server startup"03:40
gantctu no lo sabe como se puede hacer?03:41
Bubbling_Zombieyeah, k03:41
Bubbling_Zombiewhat seems to be the problem then? ;<03:41
HappyFoolmonk: ah03:41
onkarshindebob2: So I think it is possible to get the driver easily. Am I right?03:41
Zugwrackgante,ramiro: Ya bastante...se usa ingles aqui03:41
HappyFoolmonk: *cough* i kind of missed the 'sound' entry03:41
bob2onkarshinde: linux-laptops.net should have details about anything you're considering03:41
HappyFoolep: ok, try changing xmms' output to artsd03:42
bob2onkarshinde: think so, yeah; iirc slmodem stuff in multiverse will work03:42
epi'm gonna restart kde first, ok?03:42
HappyFoolep: not sure about totem; i think you can get xine (movie player) to use artsd03:42
bob2I have the same one on my thinkpad, but I've not bothered getting it to work03:42
HappyFoolep: well, if artsd is running, it may not be needed03:42
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epok, i think the sound test in kde was working earlier, its not now03:42
gantchi, can somebody help me how to install dvd codecs in kaffeine?03:43
PPowerDid anyone reply to my last post?03:43
epkde control panel  i mean03:43
Chillouthi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?03:43
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HappyFoolep: in that case, maybe a logout/login is in order. sorry, i didn't realize your were in kde03:43
thegrokhi all03:43
ZugwrackHi thegrok03:43
epbrb03:43
thegrokanyone ran into problems with apt-getting azureus?03:43
thegrokhi Zugwrack03:43
Zugwrackthegrok:you running PPC?03:44
gasti switched my monitors around, and now my resolution is bugged: i can only set it to 640*480. On the other computer (also ubuntu5.04) this monitor was working in 800*600. What can I do to switch to that resultion? i tried ctrl alt + but it didnt work :/03:44
bob2gantc: #kubuntu might be able to help you better03:44
thegrokZugwrack: nope...normal intel03:44
Zugwrackthegrok: K..thanks03:44
gantcthanks bob203:44
gastis there some way i can let ubuntu rediscover my monitor?03:44
Bubbling_ZombiePPower, where are you stuck?03:44
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PPowerI do the modprobe and no light comes on. I go to the something config and it reports no AP and ESSID is off/any03:45
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viriatushi03:45
viriatus[14:39]  <viriatus> i have a problem with kopete03:45
viriatus[14:39]  <viriatus> it crashes when i enable guarddog firewall03:45
viriatus[14:41]  <viriatus> does anyone know how to resolve this?03:45
PPowerMy router supports 2.2 and 2.4 kernel so is should support 2.603:45
viriatusi have kubuntu03:45
epOk, Test sound now is working in KDE's ctrl panel, "Test midi" does not work btw.03:46
Bubbling_Zombieok, give me a second PPower , gonna do some searching03:46
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LinuxJonesviriatus, are you running any servers on your machine ?03:46
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epLooks like my programs are all configured for the wrong sound server or something?03:46
PPowerTo people with sound bugs: have you tried ALSA?03:46
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grogoreowhere is the directory of C hearder files for the Ubuntu kernel?03:46
onkarshindeviriatus: Why don't you try joining #kubuntu?03:47
bob2PPower: ubuntu uses alsa kernel drivers by defautl...03:47
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bob2grogoreo: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:47
DiscipulusI thought Ubuntu used esd by default...03:47
PPoweroh! forgot. Try the alsa page for help. you may need a new version.03:47
viriatusi am in #kubuntu03:47
viriatusno servers03:47
grogoreobob2, thanks03:47
bob2grogoreo: then they'll be in /usr/src/03:48
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ogotthas anyone tried to use Mathematica with ubuntu?03:48
viriatusit crashes when i connect to msn03:48
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viriatusif i turn off the firewal it works normally03:49
bob2then file a bug on the program03:49
bob2crashing because some network resource is unavailable is stupid03:49
Bubbling_Zombiemmm, i'm not familiar with that card, but you could try with "ifconfig wlan0 up" PPower03:49
LinuxJonesviriatus, you probably don't need the firewall03:49
ogottnoone ever used mathematica?03:50
viriatusyeah, but for extra security03:50
rendi!ship03:50
uboturendi: Bugger all, i dunno03:50
rendi!download03:50
PPowerIll try it. I did try to use the gui tool. Im on windows no so i need to go03:50
ubotuNo idea, rendi03:50
epAh at least zine is working for wav and ogg files now.  I don't know if tried this earlier or not.  But its working now.03:50
rendi!shipit03:50
uboturumour has it, shipit is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view03:50
viriatuswell i am behind a router also03:50
eperr 'xine' not 'zine'03:50
LinuxJonesviriatus, any service your running doesn't accept connections from the Internet by default. Firewalls aren't necessary for most Ubuntu users.03:51
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rendiguy's03:52
rendihow to fix this03:52
rendiE: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/mozgnome.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support03:52
viriatusLinuxJones yeah it's not a big problem if i don't have a firewall03:52
viriatusbut it's weird03:52
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Angel777hello03:53
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rendiany suggestion03:53
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Demitarrendi, most likely to uninstall mozilla-firefox-gnome-support in the same run as you install firefox-gnome-support.03:53
Angel777I need help for installing codecs on ToteM. I tried several things that were written on the internet but none of these things work03:53
LinuxJonesviriatus, it sounds odd not to have one running :)03:53
bob2rendi: complain to the backports people, it has nothing to do with ubuntu itself03:53
HappyFoolep: try configuring programs to use artsd, if possible03:53
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rendidoh03:54
Chillouthi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?03:54
bob2Angel777: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats; perhaps you'd be happier using mplayer or gxine instead03:54
ogottrendi: tell apt-get to overwrite everythign03:54
rendii do03:54
bob2ogott: no03:54
bob2get whoever made that package to fix it03:54
Angel777I tried downloading mplayer but it doesn't want. I get a lot of error message03:54
ogottbob2: why not?03:54
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ogottbob2: just as a temporary fix03:54
onkarshindeAngel777: What file are you trying to play?03:54
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bob2Angel777: then your sources.list is broken, get rid of the liense refering to marillat03:54
bob2er, lines03:54
sexcopter8000mhi, in ubuntu how can i adjust the screen settings? at the moment it's offset to the right a little and i lose a bit of the edge03:55
epyeah, at least i have an idea whats going on -- thanks for the help HappyFool03:55
Angel777I try to play a divX03:55
HappyFoolep: ok, good luck03:55
bob2ogott: are you sure that overwriting that file is safe?03:55
LinuxJonessexcopter8000m, just change it using your monitor adjustments03:55
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onkarshindeAngel777: Either install totem-xine or install VLC03:56
sexcopter8000mhmm, i've tried that before and it goes back to how it was when i go into windows03:56
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sexcopter8000miirc, it's been a while since i tried that03:56
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LinuxJonessexcopter8000m, you have a nvidia or ati video card ?03:56
ogottbob2: well, it has something to do with the gnome support of firefox... that's nothing really critical. if it doesn't work, just remove the packages and reinstall the ones you really need03:56
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sexcopter8000mati03:56
ogottbob2: and nothing should be broken03:56
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cyphaseecho...03:56
bob2ogott: sure, so mention that when you tell people to overwrite things :)03:57
sexcopter8000mjust done it using the monitor adjustments, we'll see if that works03:57
ztonzyhmm, got a problem, I can't add a volume-button anymore to the upper panel, any way to fix it ?03:57
ogottbob2: ok, i will in future... :/03:57
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onkarshindebob2: Does sl-modem work for all modems?03:57
bob2onkarshinde: no03:57
Coopawhat's the command for mounting my xp drive?03:57
Angel777When I look for VLC in synaptic I get no answer (sorry I am very new to Linux. Just installed it yesterday)03:57
PPowerI havent got my card up yet. Just to not when using iwlist wlan0 scan I get no results03:57
dabaRztonzy: you try adding it and it does not appear?03:57
ztonzydabaR, yes...03:58
dabaRztonzy: tried killall gnome-panel?03:58
LinuxJonessexcopter8000m, have you installed the ATI binary drivers ?03:58
onkarshindeCoopa: Check manpage of mount. I assume the drive is ntfs03:58
sexcopter8000mno, i'm using vesa drivers actually03:58
Chillouthi there how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear in System>> Computer?03:58
ztonzydabaR, no...will try, will all panel dissapear ?03:58
Coopaonkarshinde: will do, and yes, it's ntfs.03:58
dabaRthey aer set to respawn once killed.03:58
ztonzynice03:59
dabaRya, its ok...03:59
ztonzywow03:59
ztonzynow I have like 10 such buttons :P03:59
dabaRI know, same thing here.03:59
dabaReach one that you added.:)03:59
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ztonzydabaR, thanks04:00
LinuxJonessexcopter8000m, I know my nvidia card shifts to the right when I change to the nvidia binary driver.04:00
Angel777And it says when I try to install Totem-xine that the package is either missing or too old04:00
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ogottrendi: as bob2 said, it's not really that safe to overwrite the files. you can try it and if it doesn't work, uninstall the package and reinstall the ones you need. never do this with system-critcal things!04:00
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rendiups04:01
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rendii have done with that04:01
sexcopter8000mhmm, don't worry LinuxJones, I'm not worried enough to start installing new drivers04:01
dabaRChillout: not easy,04:01
dabaRztonzy: welcome.04:01
sexcopter8000mwhen i get my lappa with an nvidia graphics card i'll try to get things more perfect :)04:02
ogottrendi: you did what? overwrite the file? that's not that bad if it's working now04:02
MidNightRaVeNhey... when you have a Fat32 partition on another drive, how do you get ubuntu to recongnize it?04:02
rendiyes i overwrite04:02
bob2MidNightRaVeN: you add it to /etc/fstab04:02
rendireinstal04:02
ogottrendi: you could unpack both .deb packages and md5sum the file in question to see if it's really the same.04:02
PPowerI havent got my card up yet. Just to not when using iwlist wlan0 scan I get no results. Anyone got a F5D7000 up yet?04:02
dabaR!mountwindows04:02
ubotumethinks mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:02
ogottrendi: didn't it work?04:02
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Angel777I have downloaded a codec package for Linux but I don't know where I should extract them so that totem see them04:03
MidNightRaVeNthx bob2 & dabaR!04:03
dabaRwelcome.04:03
sexcopter8000mis fat32 a suitable filesystem for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?04:03
sexcopter8000msince i think both can write and read to it04:03
PPowerThey can. I would think so04:03
onkarshindesexcopter8000m: Sure04:04
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rendihei wtf with this it's work, but when i'm open mozilla.org they say i have to upgrade my browser ?? what happen ??04:04
sexcopter8000mand is it reliable, efficient etc? or is it a bit inferior to others?04:04
ogottsexcopter8000m: there's captive. with that stuff you could write to an NTFS partition too04:04
Magiusdangit...the touchpad still doesn't work04:04
rendi You must upgrade to version 1.0.4 or newer04:04
bob2sexcopter8000m: it's kinda crap, but they can both read and write to it04:04
rendii'm use 1.0.4 too04:04
sexcopter8000mi've always been told writing to ntfs is risky04:05
rendiSetting up firefox-gnome-support (1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5) ...04:05
ogottrendi: what?04:05
rendiUpdating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...done.04:05
rendilook that ??04:05
rendiwhat happen04:05
Malmsdoomhiho...ich habe Probleme mit Samba und hoffe hier Hilfe zu finden :) Gibt es deutschsprachige personen, oder muss ich mein schlechtes Englisch bemhen?04:05
bob2sexcopter8000m: best to avoid it, yes04:05
ogottrendi: ok. does it still complain?04:05
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dabaRrendi wants to update his firefox version number to 1.0.4.04:05
ogottMalmsdoom: was fr ein problem denn?04:05
sexcopter8000mhmm, well i have a spare 40gig partition, i might use that for fat32 so that i can copy stuff to ntfs in windows and to ext3 in ubuntu04:06
rendii have done with that04:06
dabaRIch keine sprechen deutch!04:06
rendialready update04:06
PPowerStill need help with card!04:06
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dabaRrendi, which site, the firefox extensions site?04:06
rendibut when i'm open mozilla.org they say my browser not 1.0.4 ?04:06
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sexcopter8000mdon't you mean 1.4.0, rendi?04:07
dabaRhehe04:07
rendihehehe04:07
dabaRthe newest is 1.0.404:07
HappyFool!firefox04:07
ubotuit has been said that firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"04:07
HappyFoolrendi: that04:07
dabaRnice04:07
HappyFoolrendi: that's the workaround04:07
sexcopter8000moh, 1.0.4, my bad04:07
PPowerIf anyone can help me with my network problem post here: http://forums.tuxtalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=1147#1147. Its a linux support forum04:07
rendiwaityes it's mine04:07
rendi1.0.404:07
sexcopter8000mdunno where i got that idea from04:07
rendii'm open this http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/upgrade/?application=firefox&id=39804:08
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rendiand they say i have to upgrade04:08
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Malmsdoomhmm...also ich habe beide samba daemonen ma laufen und ansonsten eine normale Freigabe gemacht ber das Men, aber die Freigabe wird einfach nich angezeigt. Statdessen bekomme ich bei der Ordnereinstellung im Men: Failed to run shares-admin:   Unterprozess endete mit dem Status 8804:08
HappyFoolrendi: please read what ubotu said about firefox above04:08
dabaRrendi, please try the instructions above one more time, it is ~known to work.04:08
onkarshinderendi: type about:config in firefox url bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.404:08
HappyFoolrendi: you can foll mozilla into thinking you have 1.0.404:08
HappyFoolfool, even04:08
dabaRwow, even fool?04:09
dabaR:)04:09
rendiohh04:09
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allohahi04:09
ogottMalmsdoom: ber welches men hast du eine freigabe gemacht? werden die samba daemons beim booten gestartet04:09
dabaRalloha04:09
dabaRuber das menu.04:10
dabaRdas keyboard.04:10
Malmsdoomogott: ja die laufen...meine ip wir unter netzwerk-server auch nagezeigt, aber der Inhalt ist leer04:10
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rendiohh i'm confused with this, i have go to bed now04:11
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rendinigh folks04:11
dabaRbye04:11
ogottMalmsdoom: wenn du "testparm" ausfhrst, kommt dann ein fehler oder was?04:11
dabaRkeine fehler, ogott.04:11
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dabaRganz neu.04:12
ogottwas?04:12
dabaRyeah, it was, but no more.04:12
ogottBRB04:12
Malmsdoomogott: Ne scheint alles OK04:12
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ogottMalmsdoom: und "smbclient -L 127.0.0.1" auf dem server zeigt die shares an?04:13
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naliothgrusstig!04:14
ogottlol04:14
naliothsorry no unlauts04:14
ogottno problem :)04:14
ogottbtw: they are calld "umlaute"04:15
Malmsdoommom04:15
naliothogott: i know, i just woke up and my fingers are not warmed up yet04:15
spolahow do i get root to automatically execute this command: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss, everytime ubuntu starts?04:15
ogottnalioth: lol...04:15
ogottnalioth: wtf? is your dog on IRC?04:16
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dabaRhaha04:16
naliothogott: the dog is the answering machine04:16
ogottspola: you could write a init script04:16
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Heimdall_linuxhello04:16
dabaRnalioths_dog: woof04:16
PPowerAnyone got any ideas for my card yet (as in fixing it)04:16
ogottnalioth: oh, ok, i had already quite strange fantasies... :(04:16
Heimdall_linuxI have a little question04:16
spolaogott, there's no quick fix?04:16
dabaRwhats the card?04:16
Malmsdoomogott: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"04:16
PPowerdabaR: Belkin F5D7000. Modprobe but no lights on back04:17
naliothogott: i run irssi, and was given a python script to answer questions in here04:17
dabaRbelkin what, ethernet card?04:17
ogottMalmsdoom: hmmm... mit richtigem login?04:17
Heimdall_linuxI started amule some hours ago, and now it is a little icon in the bar on the top of the screen, but I can't open the window.... is there a mean to open it without closing amule ?04:17
PPowerWireless destop network card04:17
naliothogott: so the dog is xchat with the python script (irssi doesnt run python)04:17
dabaRPPower: what did you try so far?04:18
ogottnalioth: nice solution04:18
ogottspola: well, just write the command in a shell script an link it to /etc/rc2.d/S99my_script04:18
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PPowerI have tried lots. Used the gui tool, ifconfig wlan0 up, iwconfig wlan0 essid belkin54g ap whatever it was commit04:18
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dabaRHeimdall_linux: maybe it crashed, I mean, if it wont open... I had trouble with amule all over, try gtk-gnutella, if you want04:19
Malmsdoomogott: bin normal als user eingeloggt....oder uss ich in der smb.conf speziell auch nochmal einen eintrag fr eine einfache freigabe machen?04:19
dabaRPPower: so the card is already shown in System>Admin>Networking?04:19
PPowerYes. as wlan0. But no lights on back04:20
dabaRok, good for you.04:20
ogottMalmsdoom: ja, mit "smbpasswd" musst du benutzer hinzufgen. die normalen unix accounts gelten fr samba nicht04:20
dabaRdid you check the wiki if it has your card shown?04:20
PPowerYep. I used drivers of the belkin site.04:20
spolaogott, OK! :)04:20
PPowerOh and its V104:21
LinuxJonesGuys this is an english speaking irc channel :)04:21
Bryan_woh no04:21
ChilloutdabaR:i am new to linux and also need some help with setting up my WLAN04:21
Heimdall_linuxdabaR, no it is working since I see the speed of download etc...04:21
ChilloutdabaR: can u help me plz?04:21
dabaRPPower: and then you followed the instructions and it does not work? I dont know wireless:)04:21
dabaRHeimdall_linux: weird, dunno.04:21
PPowerYep. No light. No scan results No AP and no essid04:21
Heimdall_linuxdabaR, I see the context menu when I click on it, but when I click on "open the window" it is not openning04:21
naliothogott: Malmsdoom: can you move to #ubuntu-de please?04:21
ogottspola: np, just ask if you have further questions04:21
ogottnalioth: k, sorry04:22
dabaRwhy are you guys being stupid, so if theyu speak in german, jjust dont read their posts.04:22
dabaRthats so american of you guys:P04:22
Heimdall_linuxnobody knows here ?04:22
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naliothdabaR: not my rules, i speak some german, also and don't mind a bit04:23
dabaRwhose rules then?04:23
dabaRwhere...04:23
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Heimdall_linuxdabaR, maybe there is a mean in linux to force a windows to be displayed ?04:23
jetflashwhats this os like?04:23
HappyFooldabaR: it's just to keep traffic in the channel down a little. there is a #ubuntu-de04:23
dabaRwhatever, go to ubuntu-en, HappyFool .04:24
ogottyeah, sorry for speaking german. i know this channel isn't meant to be a multilingual one04:24
LinuxJonesdabaR, there are Spanish/German etc... irc channels for a reason04:24
dabaRogott: says who it is not?04:24
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dabaRLinuxJones: oh, and there is no -en for a reason too?04:24
bratscheHi guys.04:24
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Bubbling_Zombie 'llo04:24
HappyFooldabaR: we are trying to be polite; please do not be hostile04:24
dabaRhi all.04:24
ogottdabaR: the channels name is #ubuntu, not #ubuntu-talkwhateveryoulikeinhere04:24
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bratscheHas anyone reported problems of not being able to find 'kernel-image' when installing from the 5.04 CD?04:25
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Heimdall_linuxHappyFool, maybe you know.... how can I force a window from the little icons on the top of the screen to be openned ?04:25
dabaRWhatever, I dont see any ruile anywhrre about tha,.04:25
Bubbling_ZombiedabaR, more people know english. SO i'ts only fair that the biggest channel has english as language04:25
dabaRbah04:25
HappyFoolHeimdall_linux: have you tried right clicking on the icon?04:25
HappyFoolHeimdall_linux: if that doesn't work, I don't know04:25
Heimdall_linuxyes it works04:25
Heimdall_linuxI have the context menu04:25
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LinuxJonesdabaR, english is the default language for Ubuntu and the default for this irc channel. If 100 peopel were speaking different languages in here the channel would be useless.04:25
mouril#ubuntu-pt04:25
HappyFoolHeimdall_linux: and does that give you any options ?04:25
Heimdall_linuxbut "show amule" does not work04:25
HappyFoolHeimdall_linux: ah04:25
dabaRLinuxJones: says who, whio are you to say this??04:26
HappyFoolHeimdall_linux: sorry, then i don't know -- sounds like it's broken04:26
HappyFooldabaR: please take this up with the channel founders04:26
Heimdall_linuxbut It seems that amule still working since I see the speed of the downloads04:26
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LinuxJonesdabaR, well, it's just common sense04:26
naliothHeimdall_linux: you may have to kill amule04:26
dabaRyou take it up with them.04:26
HappyFooldabaR: you can discuss this with seveas when he's on04:26
dabaRLinuxJones: not to me.04:26
kbrooksbroken?04:26
kbrooksoh04:26
Heimdall_linuxnalioth, it sounds rude... :(04:26
kbrooksn/m04:26
LinuxJonesdabaR, I'll leave that one alone :)04:26
dabaRHappyFool: how about seveas has nothing to do with it...04:26
PPowerAny help please?04:26
vithos#ubuntu-en: No such channel04:27
kbrookshere04:27
Heimdall_linuxnalioth, no mean to force a window to be displayed ?04:27
dabaRI mean, seveas, but, I mean, if someone on the ubuntu page said that, yeah...04:27
dabaRbut there is no such thing...04:27
kbrooksvithos, this is #ubuntu-en04:27
dabaRThis is a free channel, I can speak whatever lang I want, I think you guys just assume too much.04:27
kbrooksdabaR, THIS IS #ubuntu-en04:27
dabaRlets conquer the ubuntu with our american mentality04:27
naliothHeimdall_linux: if the program isnt responding using its internal commands, i know of know way to make a running program do anything04:27
kbrooksdabaR, not #ubuntu-de04:28
kbrooksbut #ubuntu-en04:28
Chillouthi there need help setting up my wlan. i have a broadcom card and tried thid ndiswrapper stuff, but it wont work.04:28
Bubbling_Zombieoh, *sigh* dabaR04:28
dabaRkbrooks: how do you know?04:28
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naliothdabaR: this channel was founded by a south african04:28
Heimdall_linuxnalioth, but it is in a way responding since I can see the menu clicking on the icon04:28
kbrooksdabaR, because everyone here speaks english04:28
ogottdamn it, stop discussing that. nobody's talking german anymore anyway.04:28
dabaRI still have not seen any proof, just poeples opinion.04:28
Bubbling_Zombieenglish is much easier to learn then german04:28
kbrooksdabaR, proof?04:28
dabaRkbrooks: so if some started speaking de, what?04:28
kbrooksidle here please04:28
dabaRkbrooks: your proof is ridiculous04:29
naliothHeimdall_linux: i don't know what else to tell you (about nonresponsive menus)04:29
ogottbut some people are german native speakers...04:29
kbrooksALMOST everyone here speaks english04:29
kbrooks99.9%04:29
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dabaRjust because its habit, oes not mean you can tell people to go away f they do not use your habbit.04:29
vithoshow do i find a repository that has rar/unrar or should i install it manually?04:29
dabaRkbrooks: I dont contest that at all.04:29
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Heimdall_linuxnalioth, okay... this is a pity to close amule while it is downloading...04:29
LinuxJonesdabaR, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/local/view?searchterm=irc04:29
naliothvithos: use the pkg "unrar-nonfree"04:29
dabaRI contest the making peiople go away cause they speak tghat.04:29
vithosi can't find that package04:30
dabaRok, I will read.04:30
nalioths_dogvithos: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:30
nalioths_dogvithos: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
PPowerdabaR: Have you thought of anything?04:30
dabaRno, I dont know that stuff.04:30
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naliothvithos: follow those instructions and you should be set04:30
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ArCHoNKoGwould someone know why mplayer doesn't playu avi files ?04:30
PPowerdabaR: Where should I ask then?04:31
kbrooksdabaR, what is your speaking language?04:31
naliothArCHoNKoG: do you have all your codecs?04:31
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weiersSorry for the stupid question, but I downloaded Adobe 7 in tar.gz format. I extracted it to /home/weiers/AdobeReader and now I want to run the INSTALL script. How do I do that?04:31
echyloubotu, what the hell are you04:31
ArCHoNKoGnalioth, from the guide site yes04:31
ubotuechylo: I think you lost me on that one04:31
dabaRLinuxJones: where does it say it is forbidden to use other languages?04:31
kbrooksechylo, a bot04:32
naliothweiers: you need to open a terminal and go to that directory04:32
echyloI know04:32
echyloI'm just testing him04:32
dabaRkbrooks: as you can see...04:32
echylo:p04:32
weiersnalioth ... I did that04:32
LinuxJonesdabaR, omg just drop it04:32
jf6hey04:32
kbrooksdabaR, you are forbidden to use other languages in the "#ubuntu-en" channel04:32
naliothweiers: is there no README or INSTALL document in it?04:32
echyloubotu, nvidia04:32
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
kbrooksdabaR, only english04:32
echylohmm04:32
kbrooksdabaR, now drop it04:32
jf6two bomb exploded at the Effeil Tower!!!!!!!04:32
echylo?04:33
weiersnalioth... the readme says that I have to run the INSTALL Script. I type INSTALL and nothing happens04:33
echyloserious?04:33
kbrooksjf6, wtf?04:33
jf6wtf?04:33
echylowhat the fuck?04:33
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jf6oh nothing,04:33
dabaRkbrooks: I dont get your point, or why you think youare the authority to tell me what I am forbidden and what I am not, please explain.04:33
weiersNalioth ... it says command not found04:33
jf6je suis juste francais et me ramene pour faire une blague04:33
jf6lol04:33
PPowerdabaR: Where should I ask then?04:33
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dabaRPPower: ask here.04:33
HappyFooljf6: please don't do that04:33
naliothweiers: are you ./running ./the ./INSTALL?04:33
kbrooksdabaR, i am not the authority, but i am a ubuntu  new users mentor04:33
dabaRso?04:33
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jf6HappyFool,  pourquoi donc?04:34
echylojf6, it's absolutly not funny04:34
dabaREven I am in that group...bah04:34
PPowerWHAT THE HECK??? Sorry! Well has anyone got any help for me?04:34
echyloand speek english04:34
dabaRnew3bie group...04:34
kbrooksdabaR, so i'm not the authority04:34
echylospeak*04:34
jf6not funny?04:34
jf6haha04:34
HappyFooljf6: that is extraordinarily insensitive04:34
naliothdabaR: so act like it04:34
jf6insensitive for what?04:34
weiers./install04:34
echylojf6, saying there are explosions for fun04:34
jf6FOR ALL THE PEOPLE who die in all the world?04:34
echylois no fun04:34
kbrooksnalioth, oh fuck. shall i leave for a while?04:34
manterohi04:34
dabaRso act like yourself, you people aer sissies, just cause I dont use the same conversational style, I am not hostile, I just ask a question.04:34
kbrooksnalioth, this channel04:34
naliothweiers: then chmod +x <install script>04:34
manteroexcuse me, but today I buy a microphone but I don't know to configure it04:35
naliothkbrooks: why not? work on the wiki or something04:35
kbrooksnalioth, i'm tired of this "language issue" :P04:35
kbrooksnalioth, ok. will do04:35
kbrookscya04:35
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gm78jf6, that wasnt very funny....it was actually quite rude04:35
dabaRbut, yeah, any time I am ehre, and you guys tell omeone to take their discussion to their language channel, you will get the same thing from me, unless I see a proof that it is forbidden.04:35
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jf6actually yes, but04:35
Will__It looks safe04:35
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echyloWill__, lol04:35
jf6if i sayed that04:36
echyloyes04:36
gm78jf6, plus, i have relatives in france right now, so u scared the shit out of me, excuse my language04:36
echyloyou got attention?04:36
jf61 week ago04:36
naliothdabaR: the channels are set up to keep folks in an environment they are comfortable speakin in. if ogott and Malmsdoom are in HERE speaking german, then others in #ubuntu-de are missing out on the information they are discussing04:36
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jf6your reaction were not like now04:36
echylojf6, I don't care when you say it, say it when it happens04:36
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clemuxhello04:36
dabaRnalioth: I can agree with that...04:36
weiersnalioth sorry... I am sure I am just doing something strange04:36
dabaRhello, troll.04:37
weiersnalioth... I typed chmod +x install, and it seems to have done something.04:37
vithosnalioth: now that i have updated my sources.list, synaptic starts with lots of errors "couldn't stat source package list"04:37
dabaR:)04:37
clemuxspiral: :p04:37
spiralclemux: shut up04:37
weiersWhen I typed "install" it still did not recognise the command/file04:37
clemux:p04:37
naliothvithos you used the sources.list the dog sent you?04:37
echylohey where is that happy ubuntu feeling gone too?04:37
clemuxspiral: happy birthday :D04:37
echylobe friendly every104:37
vithosnalioth: yes04:37
dabaRsudo aptitude update after you change sources.list.04:37
naliothweiers: you need to type ./<name of install script>04:37
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dabaRit went to ubuntu-de04:37
naliothvithos: reload again04:38
dabaR:P04:38
jf6j'aurais dit ca une semaine avant vous n'auriez pas eu cette reaction04:38
jf6c'est ca que je veux voir04:38
jf6jusqu'ou va la reaction des gens04:38
echylowell04:38
ogottdabaR: ROFL04:38
echyloyou got the reaction04:38
echyloand speak english04:38
Bubbling_Zombietete toi :p on parle l'anglais ici :')04:38
echylonot everybody attempts to learn french04:38
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PPowerhas anyone got any help for me?04:39
kbrooksPPower, with?04:39
dabaRPPower: state your problem, instead of that.04:39
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weiersNalioth ... thank you... it seems to work. I see you are busy, but I wish you could explain what that ./ thing means.04:39
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jf6echylo ok04:39
dabaR. is current directory04:39
PPowerYou know dabaR. My card isnt coming on04:39
naliothweiers: your commands in linux are in a path04:39
dabaRa shell variable.04:39
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jf6but i hav a problm with french04:39
jf6english04:40
jf6lol04:40
jf6sorry04:40
echyloand I have a problem with french ;)04:40
naliothweiers: commands not in the path have to be executed in a special way04:40
echylosorry ;)04:40
Bubbling_Zombielol echylo04:40
echyloI managed to get 200/400 on my exam04:40
PPowerkbrooks: Card isnt coming on. Tried brining the card up and no luck. no lights coming on04:40
naliothweiers: placing a ./  <which means "right here" in linux> tells the OS to execute that particular thing04:40
naliothweiers: even tho its not in the path of commmand04:41
weiersnalioth before I came to this forum I saw somewhere that I could have chmod 555 or something... would that have put it into the path permanently.04:41
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dabaR./ means starting from the current directory, so in /home/yourUserName if you type in ls, ls ., or ls /home/yourUserName, or ls ~ it all works to the same thing.04:41
naliothweiers: no it would not04:41
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tvoweiers: chmod changes permissions04:42
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rei1nantewhere can i find go back and go forward in nautilus04:42
rei1nante?04:42
DAWKIRSTI downloaded a .tar file which is a album. The entire album is one mp3 however...is there a way I can split these tracks into their respective parts? There is a file which contains this info.04:42
dabaRchmod changes permissions. 4 for read, 2 for write, and 1 for execute/browse-for dirs. you add it up to a number, and set it like, 751 where 7 is for the owner, 5 is for his group, and 1 is for all other users on the computer.04:42
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echylo^thanks didn't knew the codes04:43
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dabaRrei1nante: did you try settting up nautilus to use a btrowser window?04:43
naliothDAWKIRST: use audacity04:43
dabaRmoron.04:43
dabaRanyhow.04:43
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naliothechylo: in a terminal, type "man chmood" or "man <whatever command you are curious about>" and find out lots of stuff04:44
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weiersnalioth ... thanks... I won't take more of your time, but if it type "export PATH=$PATH: ./AdobeReader/ " I would probably have been able to put it there permanently?.... Anyway. I am learning slowly every day... just saw this on the website that made no sense to me before I came here.04:44
echylonalioth, :) , thanks, but I knew that command ;)04:44
kbrooksdabaR, please dont call anyone a moron.04:44
dabaRweiers: you would have to add that line to a profile file, such as /etc/bash.bashrc04:45
kbrooksit's not very nice'04:45
dk0rAnyone know what dir I can find the "XF86Config-4" file on the ubuntu live cd? Or better yet, does anyone have a working XFree86 config for a 17" G4 Powerbook (ati)?  Cant get my display working & I think the values for my HorizSync nd VertSync parameters are incorrect.04:45
dabaRkbrooks: please stop being a nazi.04:45
naliothweiers: depends on where you put that "export PATH" line in04:45
echylodabaR, quit it ;)04:45
kvidelldabaR: You can leave.04:45
LinuxJonesdabaR, please leave the irc channel !!04:45
dabaRyou leave it.04:45
dabaRI said moron04:45
LinuxJonesdaniels, ping04:45
dabaRwho diid I say it to, please?04:45
dk0rany help for dk0r?04:46
echylodabaR, why are you acting that way? you trying to get attention?04:46
echylofrustrated?04:46
kbrooksdabaR, not me, but certainly you werent being nice to a ubuntu user04:46
kvidelldoesn't matter, that kind of rude bahviour is not needed here.04:46
dabaRI was not talking to any of you. Please talk to yourself, or anmong each other.04:46
HappyFooldk0r: you might be looking for xorg.conf, if it's a newer cd04:46
naliothdabaR: you didnt specify to whom you were addressing, so anyone could have mistaken your intent04:46
HappyFooldk0r: look in /etc/X1104:46
dabaRkvidell: who? how does it not matter.04:46
Bubbling_Zombiedk0r, check /etc/X1104:46
echylodabaR, this is a channel04:46
echyloeveryone talks to everyone04:46
dabaRjust /ignore dabaR ppl.04:46
kbrooksgosh04:46
weiersAnyway... thanks. I am off to try out ADOBE 704:46
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dabaRif you dont like him.04:46
echylodabaR, drop the arrogance04:47
dk0rBubbling_Zombie: The only thing in /etc/X11 in the pcc ubuntu live cd is yaboot.conf04:47
dabaRanyhow, just dont expect responses from me anymore, ^^04:47
echylohopeless04:47
dk0r?04:48
echylonvm04:48
HappyFooldk0r: i'm not that familiar with the live cd, and not at all familiar with ppc, but that sounds wrong04:48
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dk0rhappy_fool: fresh download from ubunut04:48
HappyFooldk0r: you have booted off the live CD and there's no config file in /etc/X11 ?04:48
dk0rno i have no booted04:48
HappyFooldk0r: ah04:48
dk0ri am viewing the iso in os x04:49
naliothdk0r: HappyFool: ppc question? i missed it, sorry04:49
dk0ryes04:49
dk0rAnyone have a working XFree86 config for a 17" Powerbook?  Cant get my display working & I think the values for my HorizSync nd VertSync parameters are incorrect.04:49
HappyFoolyay, nalioth knows :P04:49
jdubdabaR: please keep it nice04:49
HappyFooldk0r: you probably need to boot, maybe in text mode04:49
dk0r17" powerbook G4 (ati)04:49
dk0rim running debian04:49
Hikaru79Does anyone know if there's a deb package for NetBeans 4.1 somewhere in some third-party repository, or if I'll have to install manually?04:49
egianybody knows a good calendar and contact server to be used with evolution, etc.04:49
egi??04:49
dabaRjdub: who are you? Please dont speak to me unless yuou have something important.04:49
LinuxJoneslol04:49
kvidelllol04:49
topylihehe04:49
naliothdk0r: debian or ubuntu?04:49
dk0rbtw: I dont know what im doing. but receiving help in #debianppc04:49
dk0rdebian04:50
echylohmm04:50
kbrooksuh, what is so funny04:50
dabaRHikaru79: why not get it from the SDK?04:50
jdubegi: not a lot around thus far, but you might want to test hula04:50
echylodabaR, how old are you? :)04:50
kvidellkbrooks: His audacious arrogance, I think? :-P04:50
LinuxJoneskbrooks, just laughing at dabaR dissing jdub :)04:50
echyloI think I can just guess it04:50
kbrooksdk0r, ubuntu is based on debian but ubuntu isnt debian?04:50
kbrookser, .*04:50
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dk0rok. new news to me :)04:50
naliothdk0r: have you edited your xorg.conf or (i dont knwo the xfree86 equivelent)04:50
dk0rim new to linux04:50
kbrooksdk0r, tell the truth04:50
Bubbling_Zombiesame principles. I helped a couple of ubuntu users. but i use debian. Don't flog me now :<04:51
HappyFooldk0r: i do not think the xorg.conf file will exist until you boot04:51
kbrooksdk0r, ask #debianppc if ubuntu is debian04:51
jdubBubbling_Zombie: 'course not :)04:51
Hikaru79dabaR, from the Java SDK you mean?04:51
egijdub, thx i'll try to find that out04:51
egi!info hula04:51
ubotuhula: (mail, calendar and contacts server hula), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 0.1.0+svn162-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 120 kB04:51
Bubbling_Zombieweehee \o/04:51
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Hikaru79I didn't get the Netbeans-sdk bundle because i used an ubuntu package to install the SDK04:51
jdubegi: hula-project.org -> it's pre-release, but worth checking out04:51
dabaRHikaru79: ya, there should be a netbeans install once you install the SDK, is there not?04:51
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dk0rnalioth: i think so..04:51
dk0rbut.. no success04:51
mika!ubotu04:51
ubotuubotu is, like, uh...  Thaaats me!04:51
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dabaRHikaru79: ah.04:51
egijdub, it includes a mail server?04:52
dk0rmy friend who was telling me what to do said to replace the file04:52
Hikaru79I know it's easy to install manually, but if there's an ubuntu package that would be even better.04:52
naliothdk0r: are you running xorg or xfree86?04:52
egijdub, i already have a qmail server running04:52
Hikaru79Not because it would be easier, but because it would be easier to update, etc04:52
dk0rxfree8604:52
dabaR!netbeans04:52
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, dabaR04:52
dabaR!info netbeans04:52
egijdub, can it be installed without the mail module?04:52
naliothdk0r: did you back up your original file?04:52
Hikaru79=/ Hm. Guess not. Thanks anyway, dabaR :)04:52
dk0roriginal file?04:52
Bubbling_Zombiesure it's xfree? didn't they stop using that?04:52
dabaRya, it does not exist like that.04:52
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kbrooksdabaR, netbeans is non-free by definition04:52
junhi, i am thinking using ubuntu for my mom.  i have been a long time RH user.  How long does an ubuntu release before it looses support?04:52
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dk0rnalioth: im going to say no, cause i dont know what u mean04:52
Hikaru79kbrooks, it's about as free as Sun's JDK is, and that has a third-party repo for it.04:53
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vithoshow do i eject a cdrom? the drive seems locked04:53
HappyFooljun: 18 months for the october release. the march 2006 release will have three years support04:53
naliothdk0r: then try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and choose the lcd option in the question sequence (lcds dont have horiz and vert refresh to my knowledge)04:53
Hikaru79I'm pretty sure that the Ubuntu Java Project has it, but ... those repos are still down :(04:53
jdubegi: no, but you don't have to use it04:53
kbrooksjun, uh. every ubuntu release is supported with 18 months04:53
dabaRHikaru79: ya, it may be in some third party, did you look at the towers one?04:53
HappyFooljun: see here: www.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuFoundation04:53
dk0rnalioth: that the exact command? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?04:53
kbrooksdk0r, not in hoary04:54
junthanks guys, I will look at that webpage.04:54
HappyFooljun: support means release of security patches, i believe -- i presume that is what you mean04:54
kbrooksdk0r, xserver-xorg04:54
kbrooksin hoary04:54
dk0rkbrooks: whats hoary?04:54
dk0rdebian specific?04:54
kbrooks5.0404:54
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dabaRhoary the hedgehog04:54
junHappyFool, yes. security patches.  I will be out of the country.  So I will be patching remotely.04:54
kbrooksubuntu hoary04:54
dabaR:)04:54
Bubbling_Zombieermn. According to the file listing the new livecds have xorg04:54
Bubbling_Zombienot xfree04:54
Hikaru79dabaR, yup. Towers is where I got j2sdk04:54
dk0rim using debian04:54
ballentinequick question for everyone - just installed and getting grub error 18?04:54
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dabaRso it is not there, hey?04:54
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HappyFoolballentine: i think that's a problem with older bioses and large disks04:55
DAWKIRSTAny programs I can use in Ubuntu to split tracks?04:55
dabaRHikaru79: how come netbeans, if you dont ,mind me asking, I have not tried it, I use eclipse, is Netbeans good?04:55
egijdub, it seems that the calendar currently cannot be access by evolution client, still in the Planned stage04:55
jdubdk0r: if you're using debian, your best bet is to use debian forums for help04:55
jdubegi: yes, coming in the next few months04:55
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HappyFoolballentine: you're on x86? (intel/amd) ?04:55
Hikaru79dabaR, I've tried both, and I've found I'm *much* more comfortable in NetBeans.04:55
egijdub, cmiiw04:55
Bubbling_Zombienetbeans isn't as good as eclipse04:56
Bubbling_Zombieimho04:56
dabaRI should try it.04:56
dabaRIll go do that now:)04:56
ballentinehappyfool i guessed that much in some forums suggestes changing bios from lba to normal done that but no change04:56
vithoshow do i eject a cdrom? the drive seems locked and umount says it's not mounted04:56
adhamdose anyone know how to install mplayer04:56
dabaRor maybe not.04:56
Hikaru79It's had a bad rap earlier, but ever since version 4.0 was released, it's eclipsed eclipse, so to speak :P04:56
terasurferHas anybody here heard of an allocation error from rhythmbox when an ipod is mounted?04:56
Hikaru79I'll admit Eclipse is better than NB3.6... but nothing afterwards04:56
adhamhello04:57
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HappyFooladham: i think the restrictedformats page on the wiki will tell you04:57
dabaRadham: add universe to your repositories, and sudo aptitude install mplayer-386 given your kernel is a 386 one04:57
HappyFool!restricted04:57
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:57
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adham ok04:57
dabaRHikaru79: I guess I have to try it then, I mean, eclips does the job for me, Im just a student, anyhow...04:57
junthanks guys for the quick answers.  i will give ubuntu a try for my mom.04:57
junbye04:57
tvoadham: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:57
dabaRbye04:57
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echyloubotu, mount iso04:58
ubotuechylo: I don't know, could you explain it?04:58
kbrookstvo,04:58
echylogreat04:58
dryadHello, I have installed Ubuntu Hoary earlier today, and now I am experiencing a minor problem with apt. I have added the backports sources etc., and run apt-get update, and yet I am not able to fetch e.g. libmono004:58
kbrooks!ubuntuguide04:58
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines04:58
echylohow do you mount iso again?04:58
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kbrookstvo, read that please -- the link04:58
HappyFoolechylo: easy way -- double click on it in nautilus04:58
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jdubechylo: mount -o loop ...04:58
jeeis there something similiar to Debian Unstable in Ubuntu, and if there is - where can i get it?04:58
echylothankies04:58
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jdubjee: the development branch is currently called breezy, but it's not quite like debian's unstable.04:59
dabaRdryad: I believe, that you should only have backports enabled/uncommented in your sources when you are getting something specifically from them. Otherwise, these errors happen.04:59
sexcopter8000mhas anyone got a logitech webcam with ubuntu? I'm more interested in getting the microphone working to use with skype, but can't find much success04:59
nnachtDoes anybody know how to configure proftpd?04:59
naliothdk0r: you get sorted?04:59
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dabaRnnacht: well, there is a config file...04:59
jdubsexcopter8000m: it has a usb audio device, have a look at /proc/asound/cards04:59
jargonwhich plugins do i need in order to play mp3s in Muine ? I get an "Audio backend error"04:59
dabaRnnacht: it is commented nicely, so you can know what does what.04:59
jdubsexcopter8000m: you'll have to configure skype to use a particular alsa or oss audio device, if you can04:59
duckydanNewbie question: What is the Live CD option?05:00
jdubjargon: gstreamer0.8-mad from universe05:00
tvokbrooks: didn't know that, but it has a point. Sorry. I won't do it again :)05:00
VelcanDoes Ubuntu have any special application/projects for installing nVidia drivers or should I just follow the typical Linux instructions?05:00
dabaRjargon: have you read the restrictedformats wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com?05:00
jdubduckydan: that runs the whole OS directly from the CD without touching your hard disk, it's a little slow, but really cool for trying it out and showing new users05:00
duckydanWow!05:00
dryaddabaR: I was recommended to uncomment them, aswell as adding a couple of others, by several guides05:00
duckydanThat's cool.05:00
jdubVelcan: install nvidia-glx, there's a script in there to help you configure it05:00
nalioths_dogjargon: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support05:00
dabaRVelcan: read the buinarydriverhowto from wiki.ubuntu.com05:01
nnachtdabaR: yes, I want is to allow anonymous ftp, but with a folder like "upload" with the write right.05:01
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naliothdryad: dabaR is correct, in keeping your unofficial repos enabled for daily use, your machine could become unupgradeable and nondowngradeable05:01
jgmbase#join lugradio05:01
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ballentinesorry my connection dropped05:02
jargoni know about the formats , i've seen that before, if it mentioned about muine and that you needed gstreamer-mad than sorry for the stupid question, thanks guys05:02
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kbrooksadham, please don't use the ubuntu guide.05:02
xChillouthi there i need help setting up WLAN with ndiswrapper. could anyone help me please?05:02
jeejdub, hmm.. so one should just use The Hoary Hedgehog, then? is it as out of date as Debian Stable?05:02
jdubjee: no, it was released in april05:02
kbrooksjee: no05:02
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dabaRnnacht: go into a terminal, and type in sudo cp /etc/proftpd.conf /etc/proftpd.conf_bkp05:02
dryadnalioth: alright05:02
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dryadI'll play around with it some more05:02
jargonheh05:02
dabaRnnacht: that will back it up.05:03
jdubjee: (though some packages in debian sarge are newer than those in hoary, due to our freeze dates)05:03
dabaRnnacht: after that, do sudo gedit /etc/proftpd.conf05:03
naliothjee: hoary is not anywhere as close to boring as debian stable05:03
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dabaRnnacht: in there there is a section that explains anonymous access.05:04
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jeeok. i just thought that if the packages are not updated at all, but only fixed if problems occur..05:04
kbrooksnalioth, why do you like ubuntu?05:04
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naliothjee: correct, but we have a 6 month release cycle05:04
naliothkbrooks: ease of use05:04
kbrooksheh, same here05:05
jdubjee: security and major bugfixes only for 18 months, but there's a new release every 6 -> it evens out very nicely05:05
vithosi can't eject my sATA cdrom, and umount says it's not mounted, halp05:05
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jeehmm.. so i have to install Ubuntu again every 6th month?05:05
Velcanyea. i was amazed. buddy told me about it a few weeks ago.05:05
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dabaRnnacht: as well, in the man page for proftpd.conf a documentation html file is referenced.05:05
dabaRnnacht: you there?05:05
naliothjee: no you dont05:05
jdubvithos: try typing 'eject' at the command line05:05
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naliothjee: a simple text file change, and you'll automagically upgrade05:05
jdubjee: no, just stick in the next cd and upgrade, or upgrade via the internet, no reinstall required whatsoever05:06
vithosjdub: the command doesn't ever finish and doesn't do anything05:06
Velcanbeen using fedora for a while now ... but after installing ubuntu and having nearly everything work right off the bat i have officialy switched :)05:06
dabaRok, later everyone05:06
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naliothkbrooks: Velcan just mentioned another reason i like ubuntu05:06
jdubvithos: h,,05:06
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jdubhmm05:06
kbrooksnalioth, everything just works?05:07
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dryadso nalioth, how would I install e.g. Acrobat Reader or the menu editor smeg ?05:07
naliothvithos: do you have a paper clip?05:07
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Morrowynmorning05:07
naliothkbrooks: with ubuntu, more things work out-of-the-box then on other distros i've experienced05:07
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vithosi'd rather fix the problem than force it out05:07
Morrowynwhere can i adjust my ipadress in ubuntu?05:07
BiSK-8hello05:07
Morrowynat boottime05:07
xChilloutplease, i need help setting up my wlan! can anyone help me?05:07
naliothdryad: put your unofficial repos in your sources.list, and enable them just for the program you are trying for at the time. then comment them out05:08
jdubMorrowyn: System > Administration > Networking05:08
jeejdub, ok. I'm just afraid that i have to wait new versions of programs for too long. I like having the latest versions all the time ;)05:08
naliothdryad: have you not seen xpdf?05:08
dryadno, I haven't05:08
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jdubjee: you'll wait six months max, sooner if you choose to test the development releases.05:08
Morrowynjdub,  and the file? where can i find that?05:08
naliothdryad: there are several pdf readers freely available05:09
BiSK-8can any1 tell me any good programs for burning cd's that i can get by apt-get?05:09
jdubMorrowyn: /etc/network/interfaces if you really want to05:09
naliothBiSK-8: k3bn05:09
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naliothcrap05:09
naliothBiSK-8: k3b05:09
BiSK-8ok05:09
BiSK-8tks05:09
jdubBiSK-8: your file manager can burn data CDs straight out of the box05:09
dabaRnalioth: did you say I am crap;)05:09
Morrowynok, thanks05:09
jeejdub, but Breezy shouldn't be used? (that's what the topic says)05:09
dryadanyway nalioth, I thought that by adding universe, multiverse hoary-extras, I would be able to install things like flashplayer-mozilla, smeg and so on - but it isn't capable of finding the packages05:09
BiSK-8i want something that can burn iso05:09
naliothjdub: he said 'good' program :P05:09
Morrowynim more comfy with editing files :P05:09
jdubBiSK-8: right click on the iso :-)05:09
jdubnalioth: n-c-b is tops.05:10
naliothjee: breezy is under heavy development, you wouldnt be 'using' it, you'd be 'testing' it05:10
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BiSK-8ok05:10
BiSK-8thanks05:10
vithoslol, i also can't ^C `eject`05:10
kbrooksnalioth, how long have you been on ubuntu?05:10
deviantcan anyone pls tell mw how can i install a pacth to UT2004 linux version ?05:10
xChilloutcan anyone help me with my wlan please?05:10
kbrooksvithos, eject isnt atomic05:10
jeenalioth, there's nothing between hoary and breezy then?05:10
naliothvithos: do you have a paper clip?05:10
jdubjee: if you feel comfortable using a system for which major components may break at any time, and you don't need much help fixing things up or reporting/investigating bugs, go for it05:10
naliothjee: i dont understand?05:10
mourily need same help, sam speek portugues??05:10
naliothkbrooks: since early warty05:10
jeeer.. i mean, in Debian there's Stable, Testing and Unstable05:11
kbrooksnalioth, well, between 0 and warty, there have been live cds05:11
vithosnalioth: yes i have a paper clip, but if there is no software solution i will just reboot and eject it outside of ubuntu05:11
kbrooksnalioth, er, i misread05:11
BiSK-8when i right click the iso it sais write to disk. Disk means hard disk or cdrom?05:11
kbrooksnalioth, disregard05:11
kbrooks;)05:11
vithosis there nothing i can do otherwise?05:11
jdubjee: ubuntu has release and development branches05:11
naliothwhats the portugese channel?05:11
kbrooksjee, nothing except live cd releases05:11
Hieronymus!portugese05:11
ubotuHieronymus: No idea05:11
naliothwhats the portugese channel for mouril ?05:11
dabaR-pg someone said05:11
jdubjee: there are two stable releases at the moment, warty and hoary, and the development branch is called breezy05:11
androiddoes anyone have a mozilla-mplayer that works?05:11
naliothmouril: en #ubuntu-pg05:12
BiSK-8when i right click the iso it sais write to disk. Disk means hard disk or cdrom?05:12
kbrooksstable means 'not changing'05:12
naliothBiSK-8: cd05:12
kbrookscdrom05:12
BiSK-8ok05:12
dabaRcompact onel05:12
BiSK-8and another question: can i make a playlist with totem?05:12
mourilbut in channel portugues here are in betch05:12
kbrooksBiSK-8, a tenmporary dir is created05:12
jdubjee: our development and release process is quite different to debian's05:12
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mourilno  bary anser05:13
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naliothmouril: well ask in here, and we'll try to help05:13
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deviantcan anyone pls tell me how can i install a pacth to UT2004 linux version ?05:13
gm78Does anyone know what is a really good FTP server that is easy to set up for Ubuntu?05:13
smoothow do i remove arabic fonts from my system? I don't want to have terrorist fonts on my pc05:13
Lathiatgm78: proftpd05:13
jeejdub, ok. i guess i'll go with hoary then, but keep debian unstable back. thanks for you all for answering my stupid questions :)05:13
kbrooksjdub, did ubuntu release live cds? Array-* cds?05:13
Hieronymussmoot: don't be so rude05:14
jdubgm78: vsftpd is the supported ftp daemon05:14
Hieronymus!conduct05:14
ivoksis there any app that could control CD player, without using soundcard (wich I don't have)?05:14
ubotumethinks conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view05:14
naliothsmoot: be polite, please05:14
gm78Lathiat, i checked that one in synaptic, doesnt look like it is in main, i would prefer something supported with security updates05:14
Lathiatgm78: Thats not very nice, arabics are not all terrorists05:14
smootHieronymus: better rude than blowing up innocent people05:14
dabaRhaha05:14
jdubkbrooks: livecds are built for the testing branch05:14
dabaRnice.05:14
ivoksgm78: vsftpd is the best05:14
kbrooksjdub, uh, not debian05:14
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gm78Lathiat, ummmm, think u got the wrong guy there05:14
jdubkbrooks: i'm not talking about debian05:15
Lathiatgm78: yeh, vsftpd works, and thats in main05:15
dabaRya gm78 how could you say that;)05:15
Lathiatgm78: erghh05:15
Lathiatgm78: my appologies05:15
LinuxJonessmoot, please take your useless banter elsewhere05:15
gm78Lathiat, lol, thats alright05:15
deviantanyone ?05:15
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jdubdeviant: probably best to ask in a UT-oriented forum05:15
dabaRlet me teach all you people directing others how to act something. Ignoring is the most useful parenting technique when you child is misbehaving.05:15
smooti'm just upset that ubuntu installed all those fonts which i think no proud westerner would have any use for on my system. what's the point?05:15
dabaRplease apply to the pertinent situation.05:15
Lathiatsmoot: you, don't be rude and offensive to other cultures, just because some unsavoury people decide to do things whcih are not good, it does not make all of their people bad people.05:16
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kbrookssmoot, be nice, you should really leave05:16
naliothsmoot: open synaptic and search for 'font' in 'package name and contents' and have fun05:16
ivokssmoot: get a life and move out od USA/GB05:16
LinuxJonessmoot, because Ubuntu supports multiple languages not just English05:16
Doomgaze`ignore the troll please05:16
kbrooksivoks, be nice05:16
dabaRkbrooks: stop telling people to leave, man.05:16
dabaRya, dont they know that, Doomgaze` ?05:16
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ivokskbrooks: ;)05:16
kbrooksdabaR, .....05:16
mourili have 1 disk wid a windows xp and the disk is sata in secund disk i have a ubuntu in boot end y try to windows the grun erro05:16
smootnalioth: okay05:16
LathiatdabaR: well, he should ;p05:16
gm78Lathiat, would u say proftpd is easier to set up? i can always compile the latest version of their are security holes in the one in universe?05:16
kbrooksdabaR, i should05:16
Lathiatgm78: well, it just works (tm)05:16
Lathiatgm78: but, if you want main (which is a good idea)05:17
Lathiatgm78: vsftpd would be the way to go05:17
jdubdabaR: we actively promote good behaviour here; ignoring people doesn't ensure we have a positive community.05:17
Hikaru79What /etc/fstab line would I use to mount my /dev/hda1 drive which is an NTFS-formatted Windows partition, if I want all users to have read access to it, not just root (sudo)?05:17
Lathiatgm78: no experience in setting that up however05:17
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naliothmouril: what is the grub error?05:17
LathiatHikaru79: the magic option you want is...05:17
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Hikaru79Lathiat, do tell :D05:17
kbrooksjdub, that is what happens to #debian05:17
HieronymusHikaru79: it's in the wiki somewhere05:17
LathiatHikaru79: hangon, finding it05:17
naliothHikaru79: have you seen the mount script?05:17
Hieronymus!mountwindows05:17
ubotuhmm... mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:17
kbrooksjdub, which is why people using debian come here05:18
Hikaru79Ah, thanks guys!05:18
LathiatHikaru79: :)05:18
gm78Lathiat, alright, hopefully there are some good docs out there for vsftpd....im not very good at setting server stuff up05:18
jcoxonafternoon all05:18
jdubkbrooks: we don't need to express it in that light, though05:18
Lathiatgm78: in theory, for just ftping as a user, it should work out of th ebox05:18
dabaRgm78: usually docs install with the pr4ogram05:18
dabaRread the man page to see referenced files at the bottom.05:18
Hikaru79Will the line:  /dev/hda1                    /mnt/win2k              ntfs            ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0       give read access to ALL users or only root?05:18
dabaRLathiat: ?05:18
LathiatHikaru79: no, that gives it to one u ser only05:18
dabaRLathiat: I get it, n,.05:19
dabaRnm05:19
LathiatHikaru79: what you want is a umask, 022 i think, altho that may cause problems05:19
Hikaru79What sort of problems? :S05:19
gm78Lathiat, dabaR, alright. will do. also, this ftp server is going to only be run occasionally from a desktop (mainly if i need to transfer a very large file to someone), most daemons seem to set themselves up to load at system boot, will making the script in /etc/init.d/ non executable make it not load at boot?05:19
dabaRgm78: the thing is that proftp, and any ftop server, does not use encryption, so your password travells not encripted, for anyone to see.05:19
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dabaRsftp on the other hand which is what vsftpd is, has encryption,05:20
gm78dabaR, that shouldnt be a problem, i probably wouldnt set up passwords, as it will only be in temporary use (see above comment)05:20
naliothgm78: if you want secure ftp, use openssh-server05:20
dabaR:)05:20
Lathiatgm78: using SSH with SCP/SFTP woudl probably be better in that situation05:20
naliothgm78: but security is a good practice05:20
dabaRgm78: to log into a server, you have to have a user name and a password, no other way.05:21
naliothgm78: whether on your home network or the WAN05:21
kbrooksgm78, yes, making the script non executable will disable it05:21
dabaRyoyu mean internet hey?05:21
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ivoksdabaR: there is other way :)05:22
dabaRivoks: how? anonymous? it is still a user name..05:22
ivoksdabaR: nope, real username, without password05:22
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kbrookstrue05:22
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naliothdabaR: but users loggin in 'anonymous' have very little priveleges05:22
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gm78Alright, will ssh work if say a friend downloads a file using internet explorer or firefox? Like I don't want them to have to learn how to use ssh (hell, i barely know how to use it) just to download the file.05:22
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ivoksdabaR: that's even better way than username/password05:23
kbrooksan ad!05:23
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dbwomg05:23
HiddenWolfSTOP SPAMMING05:23
jeeoh, i have one more question. there's no minimalistic cd's for installing that downloads everything from the internet?05:23
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dabaRgm78: it may give you an option to run vsftpd as part of init or standalone, choose init.05:23
kbrooksHiddenWolf, drop the caps05:23
kbrooksjackk, stopped?05:23
gm78dabaR, alright, will do :)05:23
dabaRkbrooks: stop the nazi, please.05:23
kbrooksjackk, why are you advertising a channel?05:23
dbwsay, is anyone here a freenode staffer?05:23
kbrooksgrrr05:23
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ivoksok...05:24
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HiddenWolfkbrooks, caps are shouting, and I consider shouting to a spammer quite justified.05:24
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dabaRlets all go join05:24
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Bubbling_Zombiebut i'm not turkish !05:24
Bubbling_ZombiexD05:24
dabaRjackk: thank you so much for telling us about this.05:24
ed1tyo05:24
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
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jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
ed1twat the fucj05:24
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ed1tfuck*05:24
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
Lathiathangon, i'm trying to chase someone up05:24
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:24
DJ_Mirageisnt there any protection from Services ? :|05:24
action09_jackk  go out dumb  flooder05:24
ivoksyeah turkey all the way05:24
kbrooksomfg05:25
Bubbling_Zombieif we're very lucky he'll outflood himself05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
action09_lol Bubbling_Zombie05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
cajunhow can i force quit an unresponding program?05:25
ed1tthere are no ops around?05:25
Hikaru79w00t. I got it, guys. Thanks :)05:25
gm78cajun killall processname05:25
ogottcajun: kill05:25
action09_cajun  killall  the_programm05:25
Hikaru79cajun, killall *programname*05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
dabaRkillall jackk.05:25
cajunk05:25
Hikaru79Hehe05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
action09_da ;)05:25
cajunhow woudl i try to reactivate it?05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
gm78dabaR, lol05:25
action09_dabaR :)05:25
cajunis that possible?05:25
ogottcajun: or if its a graphical prog: xkill and click it05:25
Morrowynsomeone kickban this guy05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
gm78cajun, kill it and then relaunch it05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:25
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:26
kvidellturkish linux?05:26
ogottdamn it, is there no op?05:26
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=== joh was kicked off #ubuntu by fabbione (Banned)
cajuni've got a GUi....do i type xkill in terminal/05:26
Lathiatthanks fabbione05:26
kbrookswtf05:26
ogottthanks05:26
kbrooksfabbione, who is joh?05:26
dbwfabbione: wrong guy05:26
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Morrowynok, ignored the guy05:26
phenomenoi need some help (again) when i start a game it is in an other resolution than my desktop and when i close the game the my dekstop is fucked up, anyone wants to help me?05:26
jackk#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:26
=== mode/#ubuntu [-o+b jackk *!*wqx@*.cablered.com.mx] by fabbione
=== jackk was kicked off #ubuntu by fabbione ([BX-bk] GOOD BYE)
gm78fabbione, u kicked and banned the wrong person05:26
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Lathiatheh05:26
Lathiatoops05:26
phenomenolol :)05:26
Bubbling_Zombie:')05:26
ogottcajun: you can hit Alt+F2 or run "xkill" in the konsole05:27
dryadis it possible to install the non-amd64 version on an amd64-based system?05:27
phenomenoi need some help (again) when i start a game it is in an other resolution than my desktop and when i close the game the my dekstop is fucked up, anyone wants to help me?05:27
fabbionegm78, kbrooks: he was already banned according to my client...05:27
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ogottcajun: but be aware: the next thing you click is dead05:27
fabbionegm78, kbrooks: that's why he got kicked05:27
naliothdryad: yes it is05:27
ogottcajun: so don't click your desktop or so...05:27
gm78dryad, yep, amd64 is compatable with x8605:27
dryadalright - then I'm off for a reinstall05:27
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cajunk05:28
cajungot it05:28
cajunthx05:28
kbrooksphenomeno, dont repeat05:28
spolaanyone knows of a place where i can download free/short movies in lots of diffrent codecs (to test mplayer) ?05:28
duckydanAnyone run ubuntu under Virtual PC on the Mac?05:28
gm78Lathiat, kbrooks, dabaR, anyways, thanks for your guys' help with the ftp questions :)05:28
dabaRwelcome05:29
dabaRhow come dryad?05:29
dabaRoh, I see, nm05:29
kbrooksphenomeno, maybe system -> preferences -> screen resolution05:29
Bubbling_Zombiebbiab05:29
dryaddabaR: the amd64-version seems to cause too much troubles05:29
dabaRyaya, I got it, tahnks.05:29
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dabaRlatrer05:30
dryadjust the fact, that I'm not able to install things like flashplayer-mozilla05:30
phenomenoi got an error when i do that something about xrandr05:30
jcoxonduckydan, a while back yes - now i run it full time05:30
gm78dryad, u can always download the 32 bit version of firefox from mozilla.org05:30
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duckydanmember:jcoxon05:30
gm78dryad, and then 32 bit plugins will work with it05:30
nybblehey05:30
naliothdryad: lots of users run i686 for that very reason on their amd64 boxen05:30
duckydanjcoxon: thanks05:30
nybblecan anyone give me a hand with printer sharing and ubuntu05:30
nybble?05:31
dryadgm78: yes - thats one thing... but what about app X and Y ?05:31
phenomenois there a command to change your resolution in a console05:31
dryadI want a system that just works05:31
gm78dryad, depends....which apps are you having trouble with?05:31
scottKeyboard Shortcuts: Anyone know how to create a shortcut key to launch totem?05:31
dryadwell, I've found acroread aswell, that I'm not able to install05:31
dryadand Mono05:31
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gm78dryad, ah, yeah, those u will have trouble with, damn proprietary software (well, not mono, but yeah)05:32
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nybblePrinter Sharing: Anyone know how to fix cups so i can print across the network?05:32
dryadheh yea05:32
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dryadif I had just known this before I downloaded the amd64 iso :/05:32
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naliothdryad: go with i686, it'll work so much better (in a usability way)05:32
dryadoh well, nothing to do about that.05:32
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dryadnalioth: already started the download :)05:32
derekvancei need hrlp05:32
MellyI'm missing my 2nd hdd, i want 2 know how 2 mount it05:33
gm78What I don't understand is how does openoffice.org work on amd64 ubuntu? i thought apt didn't support multi-arch libraries?05:33
gm78(thinking of buying a Sun amd64 workstation)05:33
derekvancei want to get xmms and it doesnt exist when i use apt get, what is the server update command?05:33
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gm78derekvance, sudo apt-get update05:33
zetorhi all!05:33
gm78zetor, hey!05:34
derekvancethank you05:34
dryadgm78: get an Intel based system instead - I have regretted that I bought this amd64 instead of my old p405:34
Mellybtw hi05:34
gm78derekvance, you're welcome05:34
derekvancefound it05:34
derekvanceyay05:34
nalioths_dogMelly: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically05:34
derekvancethank you all05:34
gm78dryad, i do want an amd64 tho, it leaves me the option in the future when it is better supported05:34
Mellythanks05:34
naliothdryad: you'll enjoy your amd64 when linux comes of age for it05:35
nybbleheh, anyone have any ideas on fixing cups?05:35
deviantis there any way to install D3D drivers for a ati radeon 9600 card on ubuntu ?05:35
gm78dryad, i can always run x86 on it anyways05:35
dryadnalioth: perhaps05:35
gm78dryad, plus it is a good system from a good vendor for a good price05:35
eruindeviant, D3D doesnt exist on linux05:35
dryadalright05:35
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naliothdryad: i'm fixin to build a dual-proc amd64 box (and already see the mountain i will climb for linux support)05:35
naliothdeviant: you'll have to run wine or cededga-cvs05:36
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devianteruin: so i can use only OpenGl to play games?05:36
nybbleright05:36
gm78nalioth, i heard the actual OS support is pretty good, its just mainly proprietary software like flash that is a pain05:36
nybbledeviant: right05:36
eruindeviant, unless you want to pay for d3d; http://www.transgaming.org05:36
naliothdeviant: opengl, sdl, i think there are other libs for games05:36
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gm78deviant, directx is proprietary software, microsoft only has versions for windows05:36
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naliothgm78: there are a few nags in OS support, but not insurmountable (but i like flash and such, and that doesnt work all all on PPC)05:37
gm78nalioth, amd64 u mean?05:37
kvidells 305:37
kbrooksinsurmountable?05:37
naliothgm78: yes OS support for amd64 arch falls behind x86 (as does PPC)05:38
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devianteruin: i have cedega installed, but i`ve installed the linux version of Ut2004, so it won`t run with cedega. u think that if i install the windows version, and run it with cedega, i`ll have better performance?05:38
naliothkbrooks: i dont forsee a problem when i build a amd64 box05:38
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gm78nalioth, i always heard the system itself is fairly smooth riding, for getting it installed and such.....hmmmm, ill have to look it up further before buying i guess05:38
naliothdeviant: what have you go to lose?05:38
deviantnalioth: abot 20 minutes of installation :D it has 6 cd`s afterall :)05:39
naliothgm78: i have found that for amd64 and ppc, the binary support isnt quite to the level of x8605:39
naliothgm78: i've had to build (with apt) several pkgs that are available as binaries for x8605:39
gm78deviant, ur always going to have problems with ati cards, its a fact of linux life, my nvidia works really good, they have awesome opengl support05:39
Tomcat_A friend of mine has his userhome on a FAT drive... now X won't log in because it can't lock ~/.ICEauthority ... any suggestions?05:39
gm78nalioth, oh, ok. i was talking about the Operating system itself, like the kernel and gcc and such. all that is pretty stable, right?05:40
deviantgm78: so i`ve heard. but when i bought my ati card i didn`t thought i`ll play UT on linux :D05:40
Hikaru79Is it safe to have multiple versions of gcc installed? Can I get gcc-3.3 package, as well as gcc-4.0 package? Is there any program like Gentoo's "gcc-config" that lets you switch back and forth between the two?05:40
eruindeviant, the linux version should run on opengl05:40
kbrooksTokenBad, thaats the problem05:40
naliothTomcat_: its a known problem, log in on the failsafe terminal, log in and delete the .ICEauthority05:40
naliothTomcat_: then log back in to the gui, and you should be fine05:40
eruinrunning it through cedega is guaranteed to give you less performance05:40
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naliothgm78: i'm sure it is05:40
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eruinand yes, ati support sucks atm, too bad most decent laptops ship with them05:41
devianteruin: the linux version indeed runs on opengl. but if i install the windows on and run it with cedega, will i have D3D suport?05:41
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
gm78nalioth, lol, couldnt be much worse than when i first started with x86 linux and knew absolutely nothing05:41
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
gm78oh dear lord05:41
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
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eruindeviant, yes ;)05:41
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scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
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gm78deviant, cedege is hit and miss though05:41
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
Hikaru79scrool, stop *doing* that!05:41
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:41
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Hikaru79>:(05:42
naliothfabbione: can you put your boots on again?05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
gm78scrool, i very highly doubt people are actually going to go to the room05:42
Hikaru79daniels, fabbione can you kick krall and scrool?05:42
Will__gm78: I did. It's exciting05:42
Hikaru79They're spamming >.<05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
krall#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
=== mode/#ubuntu [-o+b krall *!*asxz@193.136.157.*] by fabbione
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scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:42
Hikaru79w00t! =D05:42
Hikaru79fabbione, to the rescue!05:42
deviantlol05:42
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deviantthat`s so gay05:42
hemppai try to install libpng-dev package with apt, but apt give me error that "MD5Sum didn't match".05:42
gm78Will__, lol, why is that?05:42
fabbioneanymore?05:42
gm78hemppa, u using the us servers05:43
gm78fabbione, i think u got them all05:43
Hikaru79hemppa, delete the .deb of that package from /etc/apt/cache and try again.05:43
Will__gm78: It isn't really05:43
naliothfabbione: hang out, i'm sure there will be05:43
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:43
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Hikaru79Hahaha.05:43
kbrookslol05:43
Hikaru79Oh05:43
Hikaru79Damnit05:43
Hikaru79:(05:43
kbrooksge flooded out05:43
scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:43
kbrookshe*05:43
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scrool#fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team05:43
Hikaru79But he's back05:43
hemppaok, yes there is us servers in sources05:43
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HappyFoolhm05:43
hemppathanks05:43
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Hikaru79* fabbione removes channel operator status from scrool  <--- He had ops? O_o;05:44
HappyFoolare they trying to discredit #fazlamesai, or what?05:44
naliothHikaru79: yes, scary eh?05:44
fabbioneHikaru79: nah that happens automatically..05:44
naliothheh heh05:44
Hikaru79Ah, I see ^_^;05:44
kbrooksHikaru79, in thoery, you can have multiple versions of gcc installed05:44
gm78lol, who spams a char room??? dear lord...like seriously, get a life05:44
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gm78*chat05:45
kbrooksgm78, this isnt a "chat room".05:45
gm78kbrooks, lol, u know what i mean05:45
HappyFoolwe prefer 'conversation atrium'05:45
kbrooks:P05:45
gm78lol05:45
Will__'Mad house'05:45
nybblelol05:46
Hikaru79kbrooks, and how would I switch system compilers?05:46
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gm78Hikaru79, is there any reason u want to use gcc4.0? i heard at this point it doesnt really have any advantages over gcc-3.x? i heard 4.1 is where things will get a lot better, of course i could be way off-base here05:50
raven3x7hello05:50
gm78raven3x7, hey05:50
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Velcancan someone briefly explain to me about ubuntus package installer. i'm use to fedora using yum05:51
HappyFoolVelcan: there's lots on the wiki about it05:51
HappyFool!apt05:51
uboturumour has it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/05:51
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Velcanthanks05:51
HappyFoolVelcan: you can start there05:51
gm78Velcan, open a private chat with me, i use both daily05:51
gm78Velcan, i can give u the rundown05:51
naliothHikaru79: you can go to the gcc website and find instructions on how to use it05:52
BiSK-8 can i make a playlist with totem?05:52
naliothVelcan: go to System > Admin > synaptic package manager05:52
Hikaru79gm78, the main reason is, openoffice.org2 has gcc-4.0 as a dependency, but I already have 3.3 installed05:53
Hikaru79And I'm just curious if there's going to be problems there05:53
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kbrooksgm78, pms arent encouraged05:53
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naliothHikaru79: go check the gcc website05:54
Hikaru79nalioth, good idea.05:54
zukalkwhen i booted Ubuntu today it gave me an error about HAL when i logged in, and now i can see my drives in the desktop (those in /media)05:54
gm78kbrooks, sorry, didnt figure u wanted me to give a huge rundown of apt when everyone knows how to use it05:54
zukalkhttp://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6271/scrn4yx.png05:54
zukalkany idea why?05:55
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BiSK-8 is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?05:57
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naliothzukalk: is that not acceptable to have your drives on your desktop?05:57
spanglesontoastcan i use lfs with ubuntu?05:57
zukalknalioth, it is. but it's never happened before05:58
naliothspanglesontoast: linux from scratch?05:58
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zukalknalioth, i was just looking for an explanation05:58
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naliothzukalk: HAL is hardware abstraction layer, iirc, but i have no clue why its error would cause your HDs to show up on desktop05:58
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zukalknalioth, weird05:59
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naliothspanglesontoast: if it is linux from scratch you are speaking of, then yes, you can start your lfs project from ubuntu05:59
BiSK-8 is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?05:59
BiSK-8 is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?05:59
BiSK-8 is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?05:59
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zukalkBiSK-8, we heard it the first time06:00
BiSK-8:D06:00
zukalkno need to flood the channel06:00
kbrooksnalioth_wrkn, cya06:00
BiSK-8didt seem like it06:00
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kbrooksBiSK-8, we saw it06:00
GigaClon!rpm06:00
ubotuGigaClon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:00
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BiSK-8well if u all saw it:::::::can ya?06:01
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kbrooksGigaClon, ?06:02
GigaClonnm06:02
pax!alien06:03
ubotualien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/06:03
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zukalk"is, like"? what's with these bots?06:04
apokryphoszukalk: I think they're trying to humanise them ;-)06:04
paxhe's Paris Hilton's type06:04
zukalkapokryphos, good job then ;)06:04
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apokryphospax: I think he'd go for something more like ChangServ06:06
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sexcopter8000mwhat should i use to handle .rar files?06:06
paxanyone can feed the bot, so 'is, like' is meant to imply that the information could be right/wrong or else.06:06
gm78sexcopter8000m, if im not mistaken, double click on them in nautilus and file-roller should open them fine06:06
apokryphossexcopter8000m: rar06:06
HappyFoolsexcopter8000m: unrar and unrar-nonfree06:06
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gm78sexcopter8000m, yeah, those should work too06:07
sexcopter8000mif i double click it, it brings up archive manager which says archive type not supported.06:08
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sexcopter8000mis rar an actual programme?06:08
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topyligm78: actually, only rar works for rar. file-roller uses it too :)06:08
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topylisexcopter8000m: yes06:09
zth_what do i add to proftpd.conf to lock ppl to their homedirs?06:09
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GigaClonok this is weird, I was running a python game, and it couldn't find a audio device06:09
sexcopter8000min synaptic i can only find unrar, which is says doesn't support rar 3 format =s06:10
GigaClonbut sound works fine in everthing else06:10
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sexcopter8000mlet me try this unrar06:10
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HappyFoolsexcopter8000m: i believe unrar-nonfree is in multiverse06:11
HappyFool!repositories06:11
ubotuI guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:11
GeoffrianCan someone tell me how to copy a dir or files to another dir???????????????????06:11
HappyFoolyou may find that url of use06:11
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GeoffrianI can only copy one file at a time on command line.06:11
HappyFoolGeoffrian: are you running standard ubuntu 5.04 ?06:11
GeoffrianYes06:11
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sexcopter8000mbut does nonfree mean what i think it does?06:11
HappyFoolGeoffrian: have you considered using nautilus?06:11
GeoffrianNot sure how to use the cp command06:11
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carlcp -a06:12
HappyFoolsexcopter8000m: it refers to the 'liberty' of the software, not the price06:12
Geoffrian-a copies all files in a dir?06:12
HappyFoolGeoffrian: otherwise, use 'cp *.txt destdir/'06:12
carlyes06:12
Whistlercan anybody recommend me video player?06:12
carland preserves file permissions06:12
sexcopter8000mk06:12
Whistlerdont recommen totem ir mplayer06:12
carloh wait.. just files, or dirs too?06:12
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GeoffrianThis was what I types: cp /usr/src/packages/ /mnt/lfs/packages06:13
GeoffrianIt said it was ommitting /usr/src/packages.......06:13
carlGeoffrian, do you want to copy or move?06:13
GeoffrianBUT if I were to copy each file one by one it would work, curious why.06:13
GeoffrianCopy.06:13
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carlGeoffrian, I have a feeling you want the same thing but cp -a06:14
GeoffrianOk, I'll try.06:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYjust a question can k3b burn .iso images?06:14
carlcp -av to see what it is doning06:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYand if so how?06:14
Whistlercan anybody recommend me video player?06:14
StrifeWhistler: xine06:14
jeeWhistler, mplayer06:15
redtech!wiki06:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYWhistler , beep-media-player06:15
Strifeheh06:15
redtech!wiki encrypted dvd06:15
HappyFool!restricted06:15
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:15
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raven3x7hi again06:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu hi06:16
ubotuque tal, church_of_foamy06:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^06:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi still think thats cool06:16
kvidellChurcH_of_FoamY: You apparently linked someone to the Suicide IllWillPress video the other day and they thought you really wanted them to kill themselves, lol06:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o06:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYkvidell , are you freaking shittin me?06:17
kvidellnope06:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O06:17
raven3x7im still having troubles with the nvidia drivers. i managed to install them but i only get a black screen when x starts. no errors apparent in the log for xorg. any ideas?06:17
kvidellthey were unfamiliar with the cartoon series I guess06:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat is so insane06:17
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carlraveli, use the ubuntu nvidia package06:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just through the link in there06:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's not my fault they thought that >.<06:18
redtechty HappyFool06:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYshakes head....when are people gonna learn that cartoons are just CARTOONS???!!!06:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYkvidell , just cureious though who was it ?06:19
carlhow do I remount a CD so that all users have rights to the files?  currently it is 70006:19
kvidelllemme look06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk06:20
ed1thow do i write an iso file to a cd?06:20
raven3x7carl : are you talking to me?06:20
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carlyes06:20
raven3x7same thing. i tried it06:20
kvidellbojangles?06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYhim lol jeeze06:21
carlraven3x7, document what you have and did, file a bug report - you will probably see a solution in a day or 2 - much less work06:21
bratscheHas anyone reported problems of not being able to find 'kernel-image' when installing from the 5.04 CD?06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYi through foamy links in here so people can enjoy them >.<06:21
kvidellhehe. It's coo :)06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's only a cartoon people you know fiction?06:21
kvidellDo you know Pekster?06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYno06:21
kvidellhm, k06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy does he know me?06:21
nalioth_wrknChurcH_of_FoamY: different people take things in different ways06:21
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kvidellnot sure, lol06:21
Heimdall_linuxdamn, no mean to show a window of a processus that is active but invisible ?06:21
HappyFoolcarl: you can play with the umask option in /etc/fstab06:22
kvidellHe and my Fiance manage some of the mirroring06:22
carlHappyFool, thanks06:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth_wrkn , yea true......but a cartoon? wow06:22
HappyFoolcarl: e.g., umask=000 would work06:22
raven3x7carl : i dont think its a bug. probably it's most probably my x configuration06:22
golgorcan anyone help me setup a wu-ftpd server with webmin06:22
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: top?06:22
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Heimdall_linuxwell nalioth_wrkn , top shows the process, but don't display the window06:22
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: an X window?06:23
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: did you try alt-tab?06:23
Heimdall_linuxyeah, always my Amule problem06:23
Heimdall_linuxI did killall gnome-panel06:23
golgoranyone familiar with wu-ftpd?06:23
Heimdall_linuxthe icon disapeared06:24
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Heimdall_linuxbut amule is still active06:24
Heimdall_linuxI just can't display it...06:24
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: kill amule06:24
Heimdall_linuxnalioth_wrkn, no...06:24
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: it will pick up where it left off, hopefully06:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=87 <----and remember it's just a CARTOON ^_^06:24
Heimdall_linuxnalioth_wrkn, it has to be another solution06:24
Heimdall_linuxnalioth_wrkn, I don't wanna loose my queues06:24
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: then live with it, cuz if it isnt responding to your menu selections, you have no other options06:25
kbrooksheh06:25
carli still get "Permission denied" even though mount:/dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000,user=carl)06:25
redtechok, the restricted formats doc helped.  but xine is displaying nothing but green lines. what am I missing?06:25
Heimdall_linuxnalioth_wrkn, I can't believe linux does not have a command to show a window that is hidden06:25
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, define hidden06:25
raven3x7can anyone figure out if this could be the reason for the black screen http://pastebin.com/31064506:25
golgorwu-ftp?06:25
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: the amule (from what you report) is malfunctioning06:26
Heimdall_linuxkbrooks, you know amule ? well it is possible to hide the window to put a little icon near the clock... well I don't have this icon anymore, but amule is still running06:26
nalioth_wrkncarl: you have too many options, i think06:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhowly crap the new knoppix cd rocks06:27
Heimdall_linux 9339 nico      15   0 48028  16m 6016 S  5.2  7.0  59:18.95 amule06:27
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, no other options06:27
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, uh, stopped06:27
Heimdall_linuxkbrooks, but this is too bad06:27
Heimdall_linux:(06:27
kbrooksHeimdall_linux,06:27
kbrooksHeimdall_linux,06:27
kbrooksHeimdall_linux,06:27
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: just be patient for a couple days, you queue should finish06:28
kbrooksamule is stopped.06:28
Heimdall_linuxwhat ?06:28
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Heimdall_linuxkbrooks,  ?06:28
kbrooksnalioth_wrkn, dude. please look at the ps  output06:28
carlnalioth_wrkn, any idea what I should have?06:28
raven3x7anyone?06:28
kbrooksfg amule06:28
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, try fg amule06:28
nalioth_wrknHeimdall_linux: kbrooks means from a terminal06:28
Heimdall_linuxno such job06:28
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, are you sure?06:29
HappyFoolfg will probably only work if the process was backgrounded from that terminal06:29
Heimdall_linuxnico@nico:~/download$ fg amule06:29
Heimdall_linuxbash: fg: amule: no such job06:29
nalioth_wrknkbrooks: amule is running, afai can see06:29
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kbrooksnalioth_wrkn, it just is stopped.06:29
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kbrooksnalioth_wrkn, amule is NOT malfunctioning.06:30
Heimdall_linuxkbrooks, but I can see it in 'top'06:30
nalioth_wrkni've already said to kill it06:30
Heimdall_linuxI think it is rather a GNOME pb06:30
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, well, if you didnt bg it from there, you have no choice but to kill it06:30
HappyFoolraven3x7: no, those errors are not likely to be related06:30
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Heimdall_linuxkbrooks, 'bg' ?06:30
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, no, it is not a gnome problem06:31
kbrooksbackground06:31
Heimdall_linuxoh ok06:31
zth_how do i restart proftpd when it's using inetd?06:31
Heimdall_linuxokay06:31
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Heimdall_linuxI'll kill it06:31
karimhow to deleted a cdrw ?06:31
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zth_karim, gnomebaker06:31
Scisla1so, even though I migrated to hoary a while back, last night I decided to finally switch from xfree to xorg... needless to say my xserver won't start now... anyone have any suggestions?06:31
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnew link for ya guys http://www.taintedink.com/main.htm06:31
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nalioth_wrknScisla1: "sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:32
Heimdall_linuxthen it works again....06:32
yahalomal my home folder files are on my desktop and when i delete them off my desktop they are deleted from my home folder, when i paste them from by trash back into my home folder they show up on the desktop, any ideas?06:32
Heimdall_linuxbut lost my queue :(06:32
raven3x7HappyFool towards the end i get some more warnings about the font renderer. thats about it nothing more06:32
kbrooksHeimdall_linux, it doesnt matter06:32
kbrooksthe point is that amule was stopped somehow06:32
Scisla1thanks nalioth_wrkn06:33
Scisla1bbiab06:33
Heimdall_linuxkbrooks, but you saw like me that it was not *completly* stopped06:33
Heimdall_linuxsince it was still downloading06:33
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kbrooksHeimdall_linux, read man ps06:33
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raven3x7HappyFool http://pastebin.com/310651 but i guess these are probably not related either06:34
Heimdall_linuxokay thanks guys06:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYok before i ruin another cd any idea whats causing this error? http://pastebin.com/31065306:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYat the very end it just quits using the cd06:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYor burning i should say06:35
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koch2005hello06:36
kbrookspermission denied06:36
kbrooksthats the error06:37
emuzestoA lot of stuff in /dev disapeared after my last apt-get upgrade, so now my cdrom and usb disc don't work properly. What can I do to fix it?06:38
kbrookshmmmm06:38
yahalomanyway i can use my gnome file browser to surf the web?06:38
kbrooksemuzesto, apt-get upgrade to what?06:38
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koch2005hi06:38
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koch2005hello06:39
decafhi, qt apps such as skype has toooooo big fonts06:39
emuzestokbrooks: I don't remember.06:39
koch2005Has anyone tried succesfully configuring sound in ubuntu ?06:39
yahalomanybody?06:39
Panzerboykoch2005: for me it worked out of the box06:39
Panzerboykoch2005: what's the problem?06:39
Panzerboyyahalom: why would you want to do that?06:40
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bratscheI can't even get Ubuntu to install.06:40
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koch2005I have serious sound issues when I installed ubuntu. It was working fine when I was erunning fedora core 206:40
bratscheFeh.06:40
yahalomPanzerboy, so i wont have to open a seperate browser when i decide to stop messing with my files and want to surf the web,06:40
koch2005Panzerboy, I get distorted sound when playing music files06:40
Chilloutxhi there, i finally manager to install drivers for my WLAN card. but i need help configuring it. can someone help me please?06:40
nalioth_wrknkoch2005: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:41
yahalomPanzerboy, like konqueror06:41
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kbrooksbratsche, why?06:41
Panzerboyyahalom: i don't know if it's possible with nautilus06:41
bratschekbrooks: The installer just craps out and says it couldn't find kernel-image, or something like that.06:41
bratschekbrooks: I'm installing from 5.04 CD.06:41
yahalomPanzerboy, yeah i cand of thought so :(06:41
kbrooksbratsche, CD corrupted?06:42
nalioth_wrknyahalom: nautilus currently does not surf the web06:42
bratschekbrooks: I'll burn another one to be certain.06:42
nalioth_wrknbratsche: check your md5 checksums06:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone know about my error?06:42
yahalomnalioth_wrkn, no way?06:42
nalioth_wrknbratsche: on both your iso image and your cd-rom06:42
yahalomnalioth_wrkn, no plugin or something?06:42
nalioth_wrknyahalom: not to my knowledge06:42
bratschenalioth_wrkn: Okay.06:42
Panzerboybratsche: do first what nalioth_wrkn said, check the md5 sum06:42
Panzerboybefore burning another cd06:43
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bratscheLet me find out how to check them md5 sum.  I'm not sure off hand how you do that.06:43
koch2005nalioth_wrkn, In the link you gave it says for all other problems, try 'fuser /dev/dsp' . But I donot have this file. Could this be the problem?06:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth do you know what happend here when i tryed to burn a cd? http://pastebin.com/31065306:43
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naliothbratsche: open a terminal and type "man md5sum" or you can ask uncle google06:44
Panzerboybratsche: download first the md5sum file from the ubuntu site06:44
Panzerboybratsche: then use the md5sum utility06:44
bratscheOkay, thanks.06:45
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naliothkoch2005: that is not the only 'fix' to be found, check the wiki further and look into the forums06:45
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koch2005nalioth, But is this file important for playing sound? I do not have this file in my system.06:48
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naliothkoch2005: i'm not all that familiar with sound issues, i just point people to that sound wiki to get them started off06:49
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yahalomnalioth_wrkn, no plugin or something?cool06:49
koch2005nalioth, thanks for the help06:50
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Velcanare there any mail notification utils built into ubuntu that will work with gmail?06:52
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decafVelcan: gmail has pop3 support.06:53
peaceyallhow can i check if im using acpi or the other sht06:53
Velcanyea, never did get that to work properly though06:53
naliothVelcan: i'm not sure if mail-notification uses ssl (which google requires)06:53
Velcanguess that was on my widoze machine at work though .... maybe i will try that here06:53
decafVelcan: use thunderbird, tell it to use secure connection06:54
naliothVelcan: you must enable ssl in your pop3 clients for it to work with google06:54
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naliothVelcan: there is a very good walkthrough when you log into gmail using your browser06:54
Velcani have the gmail notifier installed for firefox but im looking for gnome applet or something to go in the systray06:54
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naliothVelcan: i am not sure if the applet uses ssl06:55
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VelcanI know there is a gnome gtray ... im just not suer if there was a package out there that someone put together for ubuntu or if it's something im going to have to compile06:56
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naliothVelcan: a google mail tray applet?06:57
Velcanyea06:57
naliothVelcan: where do you get it?06:57
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naliothVelcan: i'll compile it in a second06:57
Velcanhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gnome-gtray/06:57
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raven3x7isnt there a command that creates a xorg.conf? like dexconfig or something?06:58
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naliothraven3x7: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:58
Velcansf appears to be empty though ;\06:58
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raven3x7nalioth thanks06:58
BiSK-8[shower] re06:59
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naliothVelcan: yes, it's vaporware atm06:59
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supernixOk im back06:59
VelcanI'm gonna try this 'mail-notification' in synaptic ... it look promising (crosses fingers) :P06:59
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Hikaru79Do Java swing applications use OSS?07:00
supernixOk anyone know how to keep Mozilla from crashing when you try viewing a website with flash07:00
Hikaru79I've managed to get ALSA and ESD configured to hear multiple sounds at once, but Java programs still refuse to play sound...07:00
Hikaru79supernix, make sure your symlink to the flash plugin isn't broken07:00
Hikaru79That's why it crashes on flash for 99% of people.07:00
supernixhow can I vefiry that /?07:00
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Hikaru79Go to the plugin directory and do an ls -al on the plugin07:01
Hikaru79See if it points to anything07:01
supernixah ok07:01
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VelcanAwesome!07:02
cmathesonhey, i'm trying to use Xnest (running it as display :1.0, but when i try to launch something (e.g. xterm -display :1.0, it gets refused by server~what needs to be done)?07:02
Velcanmail-notification even has Gmail as an optional mailbox type :)07:02
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adhamhey people07:03
adhamdid i say something wrong07:03
kbrooksUH07:03
kbrooksOU?07:03
kbrooksyou*07:03
adhamwhat?07:03
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Panzerboyadham: yes, you've been very very naughty :)07:04
kbrookswhat do you want help with?07:04
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adhamdose anyone know the developers of ubuntu linux07:04
sjjubb1989i have a website for flash07:04
kbrooksadham, why?07:04
sjjubb1989it got it working for my ubuntu07:05
kbrookswhat do you want help with?07:05
adhami need to know if anyone knows how to get to them07:05
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naliothadham: they are listed on the wiki07:05
Panzerboyadham: join #ubuntu-devel07:05
apokryphosadham: plenty in #ubuntu-devel07:05
apokryphossnap07:05
adhami have know clue that is07:05
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naliothadham: https://wiki.ubuntu.com07:05
Panzerboyhuh ?07:05
hellraiser_robword up people07:06
Panzerboystrange fellow07:06
Panzerboyword07:06
apokryphoshaha07:06
sjjubb1989lol07:06
hellraiser_robhow goes it everyone?07:06
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apokryphosFine and dandy07:06
Panzerboylike a charm :)07:06
sjjubb1989hey what is the command to check your filesystem (ext3)07:06
hellraiser_robspiffing07:06
Panzerboyfsck ?07:06
Quest-Masterfsck, sjjubb198907:06
naliothsjjubb1989: fsck07:06
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sjjubb1989thanks07:07
Panzerboyfsck.ext3 actually07:07
Quest-Masterfsck will work fine though :x07:07
sjjubb1989there we go07:07
sjjubb1989thanks07:07
naliothPanzerboy: it depends on the fs, i could use fsck.hfsplus07:07
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hellraiser_robanyone had much luck with the old beagle?07:07
supernixHikaru79, do you look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?07:08
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Panzerboynalioth: he specified ext307:08
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Panzerboy:)07:08
hellraiser_robalright girls calm down, i'm sure your all equally right07:08
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Panzerboyheh07:09
naliothPanzerboy: my bad, i can't see very well this morning07:09
Panzerboynalioth: np :)07:09
hellraiser_robthis morning!!! its 6:11pm you lazy git07:09
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Panzerboynalioth: i'm just the same in the mornings till i have my coffee :)07:09
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sjjubb1989lol07:10
Panzerboyhellraiser_rob: actually it's 8:09 PM :)07:10
Panzerboybut those are just details :)07:10
sjjubb1989its 10:10 where i am07:10
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hellraiser_robyou in the med panzerboy?07:10
kbrooksheh07:10
Panzerboyeastern europe07:10
naliothcoffee! that's what's missing!07:10
hellraiser_robahhh i'm travelling that way in a few weeks07:10
sjjubb1989which part?07:10
hellraiser_robwhere do you recommend?07:10
hellraiser_robslovenia, slovakia, croatia, czech07:11
hellraiser_robsarajevo, bosnia07:11
sjjubb1989thats nice07:11
hellraiser_robthat kind of thing07:11
Panzerboynever been in those places07:11
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sjjubb1989i want to go to germany07:11
Panzerboyi'm from romania :)07:11
naliothhellraiser_rob: beautiful country07:11
Panzerboygermany is also nice07:11
Panzerboybeen there this spring07:11
hellraiser_robyeah i've been to castle dracula in romania hehe07:11
Panzerboylol07:11
Panzerboydracula sucks07:12
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hellraiser_robnice blood vodka they do07:12
sjjubb1989lol07:12
sjjubb1989that he does07:12
hellraiser_roblol07:12
sjjubb1989lol07:12
Panzerboy:)07:12
hellraiser_robdo you ski much panzerboy?07:12
Panzerboyactually there are 2 or 3 "dracula" castels07:12
sjjubb1989time to see if aim.com freezes firefox again07:12
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hellraiser_robgl07:12
Panzerboynot at all unfortunatelly07:12
hellraiser_robromania has good snow, you should try it07:13
Panzerboyyeah :)07:13
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virgulehey all give me a fun website. I ned a laugh!07:13
oscar_-_-07:13
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oscar_ah c'est vrai07:13
oscar_pas de majuscules et pas d'accents07:13
sjjubb1989www.jibjab.com07:13
Panzerboyvirgule: www,microsoft.com07:13
hellraiser_robwww.slashdot.com07:13
sjjubb1989lol07:13
sjjubb1989nice one panzerboy07:13
naliothwhats a good bulk file renamer?07:13
naliothfor the console?07:13
naliothfor the GUI?07:13
Panzerboynalioth: perl :)07:14
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Panzerboyactually i'm looking also for such a tool07:14
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naliothPanzerboy: perl what?07:14
Panzerboyhave a bunch of futurama episodes07:14
sjjubb1989lerl as in07:14
sjjubb1989#/usr/bin/perl (joking)07:14
Panzerboynalioth: j/k :)07:14
virgulei mean more stuffs like this: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/family.html07:14
hellraiser_robhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#mvb07:14
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naliothhate dealing with camera files07:15
naliothhellraiser_rob: havent you got the word yet?07:15
yahalomanyone here surf the web with nautilus?07:15
sjjubb1989guess what i did today. i never thought this would happen07:15
naliothhellraiser_rob: but thx for the answer07:15
sjjubb1989who here has used a used stick of ram for a bookmark?07:15
hellraiser_robnalioth: i've always got the word07:15
hellraiser_robnot me07:15
nalioth!ubguide07:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)07:16
hellraiser_robi've used a used cpu though07:16
Panzerboyyeah, ubuntuguide is pure evil07:16
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Panzerboy:)07:16
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Panzerboyi wonder what's gonna happen to me, since i've followed it yesterday morning :)07:17
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Panzerboyi'm still waiting for something really evil to happen07:17
action09great ! a gdm restart occured without any explication :(07:17
HappyFoolPanzerboy: even now the nanobots are eating their way out of your harddrive07:17
hellraiser_robalways nice07:17
naliothPanzerboy: you havent been in here when the users come in and cant operate their system due to the 'guide?07:18
albackerguys i deleted, /usr/share/enlightenmen while havin enlightenment installed, than apt-get remove en.. and than apt-get install enl. but when i enter it, it shows an error. any idea . what to do ?07:18
Panzerboynalioth: nope07:18
Panzerboynalioth: but what happened actually?07:18
naliothPanzerboy: i've seen/helped quite a few07:18
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sjjubb1989lol a cpu hellraiser_bob07:18
hellraiser_rob;)07:19
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naliothPanzerboy: using nonofficial repos continually will cause terminal version discrepancys07:19
Panzerboynalioth: that's true07:19
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hellraiser_robwhats the mp3 player of choice around these parts ?07:19
hellraiser_robas in portable hardware07:19
sjjubb1989i'm going to install enlightenment soon. how good is it?07:19
naliothsjjubb1989: its as good as you make it07:20
sjjubb1989sweet07:20
hellraiser_roblol07:20
elmayahello, i tried to run hoary live cd but it freezes on detecting pc cards... is there any workarrounds?07:20
sjjubb1989so basically is it theme based?07:20
Panzerboyalbacker: try apt-get purge enl... then apt-get install it again07:20
sjjubb1989i wonder if i can get enlightenment through apt-get07:20
sjjubb1989i'm spelling it right right?07:20
Panzerboynalioth: actually this morning i've updated to the packages from backport07:20
Panzerboys07:20
Panzerboyand up until now everyrhing's good07:20
naliothPanzerboy: good thing they are now and 'official' (but not quite synced) project, eh?07:21
Panzerboynalioth: didn't know they are official now07:21
Panzerboy:)07:21
hellraiser_robshit eng lost in the cricket...curse it!07:21
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HappyFoolnalioth: i wondered about that official thing. does backports host w32codecs?07:21
naliothPanzerboy: they are, but they have not yet been brought into sync with the rest of the packages07:21
HappyFoolnalioth: and if so, aren't there potential legal problems?07:22
Panzerboynalioth: i see07:22
Panzerboynalioth: thanks for the info07:22
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Panzerboyhellraiser_rob: who cares? :)07:22
naliothHappyFool: thats hoary-extras, i believe07:22
Panzerboyyeah, it's in extras07:22
sjjubb1989how do i switch from gnome to enlightenment once installed?07:22
Panzerboynot in backports07:22
hellraiser_robPanzerboy: everyone with class07:22
HappyFoolnalioth: oh07:22
naliothsjjubb1989: at your login screen07:22
hellraiser_robPanzerboy: :)07:22
Panzerboysjjubb1989: i guess it will appear in gdm07:22
HappyFoolnalioth: i thought the whole thing was 'backports'07:22
Panzerboyhellraiser_rob: :)07:22
naliothHappyFool: there are two, 'extras' and 'backports'07:23
PanzerboyHappyFool: nope, there are 2 repos: extras and backports07:23
sjjubb1989nalioth, Panzerboy: so it should be there especially since it was installed in apt-get07:23
HappyFool*enlightenment* (not the gui kind)07:23
PanzerboyHappyFool: see what happens if you don't read The Guide (tm) ? :)07:23
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naliothsjjubb1989: if you have trouble starting "E", come back here and get with e07:23
naliothme07:23
Panzerboybut07:23
sjjubb1989nolioth: thanks07:23
Panzerboywhat e version is in the repos?07:23
Panzerboy16 or some 17 beta?07:24
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sjjubb1989hmm i'm not sure07:24
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sjjubb1989Panzerboy: 17 beta is not open yet i don't think07:24
Panzerboyit's 1607:25
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hellraiser_robthe parties starting to quiet down a bit07:25
hellraiser_robboooooooooooomb07:25
hellraiser_rob*boooooooooooom07:25
hellraiser_robhas that got it started07:25
Panzerboyhellraiser_rob: hmm ... you didn't take your medication ... again :)07:26
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hellraiser_robPanzerboy: i did, but i think i took too much07:26
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FreedomzenCan anyone tell me if they have the nvidia drivers working on Breezy-AMD6407:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcan knoppix be installed as an os?07:31
naliothChurcH: you asked about a disk error? did the disk work in your machine after you burned it?07:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYit looks so cool07:31
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes it can07:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there something speacal you have to do to do it?07:31
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you can make your ubuntu look the exact same way07:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi know i was just gawking at the colour boot stuff07:32
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sjjubb1989oh yes that was certainly a pint for enlightenment07:32
sjjubb1989*pain07:32
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hack_benjaminjust wondering- does hoary use xorg or xfree86?07:33
Freedomzenxorg07:33
tvohack_benjamin: xorg07:33
Panzerboyxorg07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the little pic of tux and thought cool i want that ^_^07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have no inention of switching to knoppix07:34
eruinyuck, tux!07:34
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: so rip all the stuff you like out of it, it's GPL'd07:34
Panzerboylol07:34
eruintux is a pretty damn ugly mascot :p07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYeruin O_O07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYare you serious07:34
poningruwtf07:34
DjMadnesseruin: :(07:34
Panzerboyyeah, the bsd devil is sexier :)07:34
poningruI <3 tux07:34
virguleits better than a butterfly07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYTUX ROCKS!!!!07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^07:34
DjMadness<3 TuX07:34
poningrubsd devil is bs07:34
eruinit'd be great if linux had a pretty mascot instead ;)07:35
virgulebs d07:35
Panzerboyt3h tux r00x0rz07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamY<--- has tux stuffed animal ^_^07:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYmine runs away07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^07:35
DjMadnesslol07:35
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DjMadness:P07:36
icewter.. i just installed ubuntu. i was never asked to set root password, i wonder what it is by default?07:36
eruin!root07:36
ubotuI heard root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:36
eruinread that07:36
Panzerboyicewt: the root account is disabled07:36
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso um whats an easy way to colour all the stuff like in knoppix's boot07:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand stick tux in dere07:37
eruinwait for usplash to hit breezy07:37
eruinthen upgrade ;)07:38
DjMadnessheh eruin i use sudo my self :)07:38
eruinDJ_Mirage, we all do ;)07:38
icewthmm.. strange07:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYwas that for me?07:38
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Panzerboy:)07:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYusplash is that something to change07:38
Panzerboyicewt: what's so strange?07:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe boot clour and such?07:38
sjjubb1989what does the -s -h do?07:38
Panzerboysjjubb1989: the same thing as the root terminal07:39
sjjubb1989ah07:39
sjjubb1989thanks07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYwonders if he can you his led keyboard with ubuntu07:39
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gorehey all07:41
Panzerboyhey gore07:41
steffenhi my name is steffen and i have a problem with my soundcard07:41
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steffeni have a audigy 2 zs07:41
sjjubb1989hello steffen07:42
Hentaiok07:42
sjjubb1989what does it not do07:42
eruinhow.... descriptive07:42
steffenand i have no sound, but the hardware check shows me the right card07:42
Panzerboysteffen: check out alsamixer07:42
sjjubb1989what does it do?07:42
Hentaiis there any ultrasparc ubuntu releases?07:42
sjjubb1989also try07:42
Panzerboysee if the volume is not muted07:42
steffenone moment please i cant typing so fast ^^07:42
steffenit doesnt muted07:42
sjjubb1989sudo apt-get install alsa-oss (that worked for me last night)07:42
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steffenoh thx07:43
Panzerboyheh07:43
steffeni will probe ^^07:43
Panzerboyi must be very lucky07:43
Panzerboymy sound just worked out of the box :P07:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea same here07:43
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Panzerboyand i have a cheap c-media card07:43
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sjjubb1989same here07:43
sjjubb1989i have an enquisonic something07:44
steffeni doesnt fidn the package also-oss07:44
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eruinmy sound has always worked out of the box07:44
steffenfrom which serve you have it?07:44
topyliHentai: no sparc07:44
eruinexcept on fc207:44
sjjubb1989ah yes07:44
Panzerboyit's alsa-oss07:44
gorehey wat is the minimum spec for ur pc to have before installin ubuntu linux??07:44
steffensorry for my bad bad english but i came from germany ^07:44
sjjubb1989you also have to add more respiritories07:44
Panzerboyit's in universe07:45
naliothsteffen: ist no leute in #ubuntu-de?07:45
sjjubb1989Du sprechen duestch?07:45
Panzerboysudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:45
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FreedomzenCan anyone tell me if they have the nvidia drivers working on Breezy-AMD6407:45
Panzerboyand enable the universe repo there07:45
eruin"wut" ur" ?07:45
Panzerboythen sudo apt-get update07:45
steffeni ah it give a extra channel for germans cool thx ;-)07:45
sjjubb1989Was?07:46
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naliothsjjubb1989: who are you asking?07:46
steffenah thx07:46
sjjubb1989steffen07:46
sjjubb1989nevermind07:46
Panzerboyheh07:46
naliothsjjubb1989: lots of us speak german07:46
sjjubb1989i speak very very little07:46
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sjjubb1989thank you duesth eins07:46
sjjubb1989lol07:46
sjjubb1989*woops sorry , deustch eins07:47
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steffenecht is ja mal nett dann ;-)07:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcan you apt-get knoppix?07:47
Bubbling_Zombiegore, depends: what do you plan to do with it?07:47
Tech^salvagerHello07:47
Bubbling_Zombieno, but you can apt-get gentoo :')07:47
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Panzerboylol07:47
steffenyeah lol ;-)07:47
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sjjubb1989lol07:48
Bubbling_Zombieit's a mandatory course here, in the high schools07:48
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Bubbling_Zombiei understand it, but speaking is a big disaster :')07:48
phenomenodoes somone know a program voor ubuntu that works the same way as alchol 120% in windows.07:48
eruinphenomeno MUST be dutch07:48
PanzerboyBubbling_Zombie: same here07:48
Bubbling_Zombieno07:48
phenomenoeruin, ??07:49
Panzerboyphenomeno: what is alchol 120% do ?07:49
Panzerboyif you tell us, maybe we can suggest something07:49
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Panzerboyerrr, what _does_ :P07:49
phenomenoit reads cue files en stuff like that07:49
naliothphenomeno: what features do you need?07:49
znh_Hmm.. I juste renamed a folder (with music content), after cding into the renamed folder all my content has been lost07:49
Bubbling_Zombieyou need a mounting tool for iso's?07:49
naliothphenomeno: binchunker converts bin/cue to iso image07:49
eruingnome-toaster probably07:49
znh_attention please, it's important for my vocation07:50
Panzerboyznh_: that's quite strange07:50
steffenmust i restart system after i have installed also-oss?07:50
naliothznh_: back out of the dir, and do an ls07:50
sjjubb1989um07:50
SPORTPanzerboy, Alcohol 120% burns a "perfect" backup of a disc CD or DVD07:50
steffenalsa ;)07:50
Bubbling_Zombieno steffen07:50
naliothsteffen: no you do not07:50
Tech^salvagerok naloth looks like no ultrasparc support07:50
znh_nalioth: already did that07:50
sjjubb1989steffen: now you can start the application like so via command line07:51
steffenit doesnt functioned07:51
PanzerboySPORT: oh, it's like a cd cloner or smth07:51
sjjubb1989steffen: aoss programname07:51
SPORTPanzerboy, yup07:51
steffenah thx07:51
naliothznh_: no 'extra' similarly named folders?07:51
znh_negative07:51
phenomenoalcohol 120% reads the cue files and stuff like that, gives your pc  some extra cd-drivers (virtual) so that it reads the cue files en cann install the application or something like that07:51
znh_maybe I have to updatedb ?07:51
Panzerboyphenomeno: for that, you can convert the cue to iso07:51
naliothznh_: only if you're using 'locate'07:51
mcquaidi want to try wrapping something with esddsp.  i don't seem to have that. what pkg provides esddsp?07:51
znh_so I lost around 300megabytes in one sec..07:52
naliothphenomeno: binchunker converts bin/cue to iso image07:52
znh_damn they should create that in rm!07:52
phenomenohttp://www.alcohol-soft.com/07:52
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Panzerboythen mount it with mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /media/my_iso07:52
naliothznh_: you are not the first, nor will you be the last07:52
naliothznh_: create what in rm?07:52
sjjubb1989i wonder07:52
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znh_nalioth: such a fast deletion function07:52
Bubbling_Zombierm -rf :p07:52
Panzerboynalioth: i guess he needs a point&clicky thingy :)07:52
naliothznh_: oh, yes, lol07:52
phenomenooke Panzerboy  i will see if it works :)07:52
sjjubb1989why do the people who develope linux make everything command line based07:52
znh_nalioth: I only renamed the directory, and everything was lost in 2ms07:53
naliothPanzerboy: phenomeno use k3b07:53
sjjubb1989it makes it harder for windows users07:53
sjjubb1989lol07:53
naliothznh_: thats crazy. did you use terminal or gui?07:53
phenomenocan you get that with apt-get nalioth ?07:53
steffeni have typed aoss xmms and restarted my xmms but nothing changes07:53
steffenany idea?07:53
znh_nalioth: the terminal.. but now I use du -c -h, I see everything is in one dir07:53
sjjubb1989steffen: hmmm07:53
sjjubb1989ok let me  see07:53
znh_instead of in two seperated dirs07:53
sjjubb1989xmms07:53
znh_great didn't loose 300megabytes ^^07:53
sjjubb1989ok i'm checking07:53
steffenthx for help07:54
Raptoidbye..07:54
sjjubb1989steffen: your using ubuntu linux right?07:54
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Panzerboyphenomeno: what, k3b ?07:54
steffenkunbuntu07:54
sjjubb1989kk07:54
steffenbut i think it must be the same07:54
phenomenoyes07:55
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdrools over the knoppix boot and interface ^_^07:55
phenomenoPanzerboy,  yes :)07:55
naliothphenomeno: yes you can07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYgoogles how to install on spare box07:55
sjjubb1989steffen: which sound card do you have again07:56
flexshow can i chage screen resolution, when i manualy edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, nothing happens, an from menu, there are only 640x480 available, nothnig else, help ?07:56
steffena audigy 2 zs07:56
steffena pci card07:56
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you really dont want to use knoppix (its not very friendly when you use apt-get)07:56
naliothflexs: open a terminal07:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , i want to install it then on another box07:57
naliothflexs: and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose your rez wisely07:57
eruinphenomeno, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker07:57
eruininstead07:57
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: www.knoppix.net will enlightent you as to what you need to know07:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , if it's gonna harm my ubuntu then i just won't goof with it here07:57
Tech^salvagerwait Knoppix is based off debian?07:57
PanzerboyTech^salvager: yeah07:57
phenomenoyou are making it hard for me :)07:57
Tech^salvagernice07:57
phenomenoi'm installing k3b now07:58
drbighi, is it possible to change the locale after the instalation? i have pl_PL.UTF-8 now and i want to change it to pl_PL.ISO8859-2, but when i change the /etc/locale.gen and do locale-gen i get some errors...07:58
Panzerboyphenomeno: choices, choices :)07:58
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ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager , the live cd rocks07:58
BiSK-8'lo07:58
phenomenoi will install them both07:58
sjjubb1989steffen: i found something in german07:58
sjjubb1989http://www.fedoralinux.de/node/view/118307:58
sjjubb1989or dutch07:58
Panzerboythere is even a knoppix live dvd07:58
sjjubb1989one of the two07:58
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phenomenobbl07:58
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BiSK-8i have a problem on ubuntu07:58
aukhey07:58
Tech^salvagerI know about the live CD07:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe problem with a live dvd is not all computers have a dvd07:58
BiSK-8my printer dosent print07:59
BiSK-8what can i do?07:59
Tech^salvagerjust I didn't realize it was debian based07:59
Panzerboysjjubb1989: that's german :)07:59
aukif i use dpkg -i, can i remove a package like with apt-get as cleanly?07:59
steffenah german, okay i will show, thx for help, i come again when it doesnt helped ;-)07:59
aukor does it leave residue?07:59
sjjubb1989panzerboy: thanks07:59
sjjubb1989steffen: your welcome07:59
Bubbling_Zombieit gets added into the database auk07:59
PanzerboyBiSK-8: what printer do you have>?07:59
Bubbling_Zombieso you can remove it with apt-get remove etc08:00
Panzerboyis it supported by ubuntu ?08:00
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aukBiSK-8: system > admin. > printing08:00
sjjubb1989this is what i love about the internet. i can read in another language an build on it08:00
BiSK-8panzerboy: hp deskjet 845c08:00
Tech^salvagerChurcH_of_FoamY does knoppix have a live CD for ultrasparc?08:00
aukBubbling-Zombie: dpkg will nto take it aout if i choose to remove it?08:00
Panzerboyafaik apt-get remove leaves the config files behind08:00
HappyFoolBiSK-8: maybe look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters08:00
naliothTech^salvager: knoppix only runs on x86 compatibles08:00
BiSK-8wait08:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager i think i seen something about that on there site08:00
BiSK-8it might work08:00
BiSK-8lemme c08:00
naliothTech^salvager: you may google "livecd ultrasparc" and see08:00
Tech^salvagernalioth I thought it was also for ppc08:01
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naliothTech^salvager: there is an abandoned ppcKnoppix project from way back08:01
Panzerboywell, i'm gonna take a shower08:01
Panzerboybbl ppl08:01
Bubbling_Zombieyou could use purge08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so knoppix is not meant to be a desktop os just a live cd?08:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYweard08:01
BiSK-8ok08:01
sjjubb1989how would i find out which port has my printer on it. i have about 8 usb ports08:02
BiSK-8thanks it works08:02
cyphasehey everyone08:02
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: i use knoppix as a rescue cd and linux demonstrator (although  now i give ubuntu livecds to demonstrate)08:02
BiSK-8bye08:02
Bubbling_Zombielsusb sjjubb198908:02
Panzerboysjjubb1989: lsusb maybe ?08:02
BiSK-8oh08:02
BiSK-8and btw08:02
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: if you wish you can use it as a desktop or whatever08:02
BiSK-8can i make a playlist with totem?08:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth i do that with ubuntu too ^_^ this is the first time i have seen knoppix08:03
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: but is is really cobbled together in a weird way, which makes it diffecult to upgrade/install to as an installed linux08:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , i was gonna install it here but am worried about a corrupt ubuntu >.<08:03
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: are you sitting down?08:03
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , yes why?08:04
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: i may have mind-blowing news08:04
Tech^salvager??08:04
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: have you see the knoppix dvd?08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , O_O08:04
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topyliBiSK-8: sure. just make a list and save it08:04
flexsnalioth: that not worked.... ehere is problem maybe in drivers....08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , no08:04
BiSK-8no, without saving08:04
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: there is a knoppix dvd with all kinds of nice stuff on it08:04
BiSK-8just listen 2 1 after the other08:04
Tech^salvagerhm08:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , only because i can't burn dvd's yet >.<08:04
naliothklaus has been busy08:04
Tech^salvagerI need a bootable windows system08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , i just like the colourd boot the pic of tex and the desktop08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYtux even O_o08:05
flexshow can i update my video driver....08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi wish i could make ubuntu's boot look that nice08:05
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: that will come to ubuntu, be patient08:05
topyliBiSK-8: yes totem has a playlist. press ctrl-p or choose it from the "view" menu. is that what you mean?08:06
sjjubb1989Tech^salvager08:06
naliothTech^salvager: you mean microsoft?08:06
PhrostbyteI see Skype does not appear to be in any repositories....?08:06
sjjubb1989what happened?08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , O_O sweet ok any idea when?08:06
eruinChurcH_of_FoamY, ubuntus boot will look much nicer come breezy08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan't waite08:06
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Tech^salvageryes08:06
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naliothflexs: do the dpkg-reconfigure thing and choose VESA for the drive08:06
sjjubb1989Bubbling_Zombie, Panzerboy: thanks08:06
flexsnalioth: ok i try...08:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: eruin answered your question08:07
BiSK-8topyli: yes08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea08:07
BiSK-8thanks08:07
BiSK-8ok08:07
BiSK-8and is any1 here on a SPARC system08:07
Tech^salvagernalioth nm I found a way08:07
topyliBiSK-8: all's well then :)08:07
jee-in system -> preferences -> screen resolution the best resolution is 1024x768@60Hz, however i've been using earlier with debian 1600x1200@75Hz. what can i do to get that resolution?08:08
naliothubotu tell jee about resolutions08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there any screenshots of breezy yet?08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm really interested in takeing a peek08:08
VelcanTrying to get my cedega setup and I'm at the test screens. For some reason both the alsa and the oss sound tests fail .... yet I hear sound, music files, etc... :\08:08
BiSK-8any1 here on a SPARC system?????08:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYas a converted die hard ubuntu fan ^_^08:08
decafChurcH_of_FoamY: do you expect any differences?08:09
eruinsince ubuntu doesnt support sparc, I'd say no08:09
BiSK-8:D08:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYdecaf , well being new to linux i'm not shure what to expect08:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYdecaf , i just know that i am hooked ^_^08:09
naliotheruin: but that doesnt mean that someone on a sparc cant be in here?08:09
sjjubb1989this is my 18th time running linux08:10
sjjubb1989my 4th try on ubuntu08:10
naliotheruin: we've had users on all kinds of hardware drop in from time to time08:10
supernixgoogle weather08:10
eruinnalioth, no, it just makes it that much less likely ;)08:10
Tech^salvagerI can't wait for my ultrasparc08:10
Tech^salvagerBiSK-8 what you have?08:10
BiSK-8i38608:10
BiSK-8it sux08:10
eruinlies!08:10
naliothlol08:11
BiSK-8i wanna get a sun blade 2500 workstation08:11
Tech^salvagerso your using less then 33mhz?08:11
BiSK-8???08:11
BiSK-8what????08:11
Tech^salvageryou said i38608:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYum what the helll is sparc?08:11
Tech^salvagera cpu arch08:11
eruini386 is the architecture most of our computers run on08:11
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BiSK-8i got 512ram, 60GB hdd, 2.00ghz08:11
Tech^salvageri68608:11
Tech^salvagerprobably08:11
decafChurcH_of_FoamY: it's a cpu with worst price/preformance08:11
BiSK-8(i got 2 hdd though)08:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYdecaf , oh >.<08:12
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: there are lots of different processors used in computers08:12
BiSK-8pentium IV08:12
Tech^salvagermost likey i68608:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , yea i know i just use  the normal amd/intell/386 cpu's08:12
eruinI dont even know where I'd get a sparc08:12
Tech^salvagerebay08:12
decafBiSK-8: get an amd64 box from Sun, solaris works very well on them.08:12
Tech^salvagerI have a sparcstation LX08:13
BiSK-8ok08:13
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eruinTech^salvager, but ebay is another evil american corporation (tm) :)08:13
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Tech^salvagereruin stomach it08:13
Tech^salvagerI use windows anyways08:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok, i'm convinced that sparc is a creepy technology O_o08:14
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Tech^salvagerwhy?08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYjeeze the comps on ebay look like mac all in one wannabe's08:15
decafChurcH_of_FoamY: sparc is dying. even it's vendor admits tihs08:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat was so great about it to begin with08:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYit just looks like a terminal on steriods08:16
BiSK-8lol08:16
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jayaris there any statistics about how many people use ubuntu?08:16
flexsok when i recongire on ves driver, he show me blank black screen, where problem ?08:16
naliothjayar: does #1 on distrowatch mean anything?08:16
eruindon't think so... having one would be a cool thing though ;)08:16
Tech^salvagerChrucH_of_FoamY check out SGI machines08:16
eruin#1 on distrowatch means spam08:17
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eruin:p08:17
flexsnalitoh ?08:17
xpl01tI am trying to run apt-get update using the extra repositories at ubuntuguide and I get this message W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager , got a link?08:17
xpl01tW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:17
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naliothflexs: tell us your hardware specifications please08:17
Tech^salvagerwww.sgi.com08:17
Tech^salvageruse ebay to find older machines08:17
flexsvideo driver ?08:17
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xpl01tI run apt-get update and get this W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:17
xpl01tE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.08:17
zetorhi again all!08:17
naliothflexs: if you choose the VESA driver, it should work fine, now i'm thinking you have a problem somewhere else08:18
xpl01trunning in circles08:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager , got a link?08:18
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Tech^salvagerwww.sgi.com08:18
naliothxpl01t: edit the cdrom line out of your sources.list08:18
Tech^salvagershessh I'll find one for cheap08:18
zenlunaticWould ubuntu run well on a 200Mhz 128M system ram?08:18
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naliothzenlunatic: with a light window mangler08:18
flexsi think thet i not correctly configure the VESA driver....08:18
Tech^salvagerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5788420391&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=108:18
flexsok i try again...08:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYstares at SGI motherboard on ebay for $1.99 wheres the cpu go? O_O08:19
zenlunaticnalioth: heh mangler08:19
Tech^salvagerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11223&item=5788338160&rd=1&tc=photo08:19
Tech^salvagerlink ChurcH_of_FoamY08:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYgot it08:19
naliothzenlunatic: i'm old-skewl, i like my terminal08:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager , looks like a coffie grinder O_O08:20
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flexsnalioth : what is vertikal refresh rate an horizontal ? what must i write there ?08:21
naliothflexs: just accept the default answer08:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYTech^salvager , is this a computer termianl or what?08:21
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Tech^salvagerno08:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYmodified coffie grinder08:21
Tech^salvagermore like a workstation08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's really neat looking08:22
flexsnalioth : than i dont now where is problem.... i have blan black screen....08:22
SPORTwhy do i hafta download and install a JRE?08:22
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: pardon me, but it's an overclocked coffee grinder08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYthough i have never come acrost the technology before08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , thats what i thought08:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O08:22
naliothflexs: what kind of monitor do you have? lcd or tube?08:22
flexsnalioth : CRT08:23
Tech^salvagerChurcH_of_FoamY: www.nekochan.net then go to the gallery to look at more pics of SGI machiens08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , i take it there no good at gaming08:23
Tech^salvagerwhat?08:23
Tech^salvagertheres really no game support on them08:23
Tech^salvagerthey run IRIC08:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok08:24
Tech^salvagerIRIX*08:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYum whats that08:24
Tech^salvagera OS08:24
GigaClonanyother places like happypenguin?08:24
eruinirix!08:24
flexsnalitoh : and..... ?08:24
eruintahts the ugly OS we had to endure on the navy frigate I was on08:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYjeeze never herd of that os before08:24
GigaClonhi ubotu08:25
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: no they are for video editing/engineering purposes08:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYohhhhh.08:25
zenlunaticnalioth: so do you think openoffice and mozilla will work well on that old machine?08:25
eruinI wonder why they were used for communications08:25
eruinand radar systems08:25
naliothzenlunatic: openoffice will suck a huge amount of resources08:25
eruinso will mozilla08:26
Tech^salvagerprobaly cause they had good thoughput at the time08:26
naliothzenlunatic: use galeon08:26
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zenlunaticnalioth: actually i use epiphany08:26
eruinand I wonder what kind of graphic artist is willing to work in an environment like that :(08:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell it dosen't look too bad08:27
eruinit looks like someone took gtk1.2 and made it even more butt ugly ;)08:27
naliothzenlunatic: epiphany and galeon are native gtk gecko wrappers08:27
virgule!wrappers08:27
ubotuvirgule: I don't know08:27
eruinI've been wanting to switch from firefox to epiphany, but I never seem to follow through08:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYif i where a graphics editor i might be interested08:28
Tech^salvagereruin good thing linux support on sgi mips is minimal at best08:28
eruinI'm realizing why IE people are wary of switching to ff, really08:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYhave to say the desktops kinda rock though08:28
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mackid_join #pchardware08:28
decafmackid_: why?08:29
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwants aname wallparers08:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYpapers even >.<08:29
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mackid_lol, that was an accident08:29
mackid_:P08:29
eruinTech^salvager ?08:29
mackid_sorry, decaf.  haha08:29
eruinif only gimp had MDI, I'd never look back to photoshop for image editing08:30
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mackid_blah, my hard drive died08:30
mackid_so now I can't use ubuntu..08:30
Tech^salvagerhuh eruin?08:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know some good wallpaper sites for aname?08:30
mig1that sucks08:30
xliuI read in Linux Bible that the configuration file for system startup is "/etc/rc", but I can not find it. Anyone knows which one is the substitue?08:30
mackid_or my PC, for that matter.  just [g/k] noppix08:30
Tech^salvagerwhats aname?08:30
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Tech^salvagermean anime?08:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea08:31
corinecan i ask a question?08:31
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<08:31
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: www.deviantart.com08:31
mackid_Tech^salvager: japanese animation..08:31
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steffenhello i'm back08:31
HappyFoolxliu: corine go for it08:31
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ChurcH_of_FoamYjust finished watching vampire hunter d ^_^08:31
HappyFoolerr08:31
HappyFoolcorine: go for it08:31
mig1i installed ubuntu on a usb hdd, it works fine and all, however i am trying to boot that hdd from vmware, and grub is giving me an error 18, when i go into the vmware bios the primary master doesn't show an hdd, ideas?08:31
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steffeni have solved my soundproblem08:31
naliothxliu: most startup files end with 'rc'08:31
HappyFoolxliu: there are a series of startup scripts in /etc/init.d08:31
virgulei think it was an honnest typo08:31
virgule..missed the slash08:31
HentaiI need to get a VNC or remote desktop08:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYwatches ghost iin the shell08:31
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naliothHentai: easy08:32
mig1though i love having ubuntu on a usb hdd, it's like carrying a laptop with ya08:32
mig1only smaller/lighter08:32
corinei'm at the downloads page of a site, but i dont know which i need; it has FreeBSD, Fedora Core 2 &3, Gentoo, BeOS, Suse and just the source. which works with ubuntu?08:32
steffenanybody has installed klibido on your system?08:32
HappyFoolcorine: source08:32
flexsnalitoth : say me where is problem with my video card.... !!!!!08:32
naliothcorine: what wer you after again?08:32
HappyFoolcorine: what is this for?08:32
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corineDOSBox :)08:33
naliothflexs: what is the name of your video card?08:33
mig1well, only if where you are going there are machines08:33
HappyFoolcorine: dosbox 0.63 is available via synaptic08:33
xliuthanks, HappyFool, nalioth08:33
flexsIntel 8284.....08:33
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pfoxanyone know if there's a non-rounded version of the clearlooks metacity theme out there?08:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYgoes to deviant art and looks at anime08:34
corineHappyFool, thanks! but then for other things in future, i need the source?08:34
HappyFoolcorine: look in synaptic first ;)08:34
xliuI just want to disable Updatedb in startup08:34
corine'course, 'course... just in case :)08:34
HappyFoolcorine: otherwise, a .deb file *might* work, but it's probably best to use source -- you will, however, need to compile it08:34
naliothcorine: you should try in the repos first. do you have univers and multivere enabled?08:35
corinei havent a clue about that08:35
virgule!dosbox08:35
ubotuvirgule: I haven't a clue08:35
HappyFooltry !info dosbox08:35
flexsnatlioth: ..... ?08:35
corinein here?08:35
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virgule!info dosbox08:35
ubotudosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB08:35
naliothflexs: if you've chosen the VESA driver, and still have nothing i am at a loss08:36
HappyFoolcorine: you need to enable multiverse / universe -- this is not hard to do with synaptic08:36
corinewhat is it?08:36
HappyFoolwhat is synaptic?08:36
naliothubotu tell flexs about resolution08:36
corineno, multi/uni08:36
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flexsuboutu tell me ........08:37
corinei cant get into synaptic tho :( root password isnt accepted08:37
HappyFoolcorine: oh. extra software repositories, which do not have the same level of support as main/restricted08:37
HappyFoolcorine: use your user password08:37
corineoh let me try :)08:37
cbreatheAnyone have time to help me get sound working? I'm kind of stumped.08:37
nalioths_dogcorine: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:37
nalioths_dogcorine: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:37
naliothcbreathe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:38
corineO_o08:38
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cbreathenalioth: I've been through the steps on that page.08:38
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flexsubotu: tel me about resolution.....08:38
ubotuflexs: I don't know, could you explain it?08:38
naliothcbreathe: ok, that's good to know (i'm not up on my sound problems)08:38
corineHappyFool, synaptic didnt do anything first time; second try gave Error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status08:38
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naliothflexs: check your messages, he sent a private message to you08:39
naliothflexs: ubotu is a robot08:39
cbreathenalioth: Thanks, though.08:39
HappyFoolcorine: try 'sudo synaptic' from a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> terminal)08:39
naliothcorine: run synaptic from terminal08:39
flexsubotu: i try to configure my video card, but i ever end ever get blank black screen, where is problem ?08:39
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, flexs08:39
naliothflexs: ubotu is not alive, it is a program08:39
corineroot pwd or my own?08:39
nalioth!resolution08:39
uboturesolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:39
HappyFoolyour own08:40
naliothflexs: read what ubotu said about resolution08:40
naliothcorine: there is no root password08:40
flexsok i try reed...08:40
corinecorine is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:40
nalioths_dogcorine: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:40
HappyFoolcorine: how did you install ubuntu? did you at any point specify a root password?08:40
naliothcorine: are we using ubuntu?08:40
corinei didnt install it myself; i know there is a root password08:41
corineand yes. its ubuntu :)08:41
HappyFoolcorine: hmm08:41
corineand wiki.ubumtu.com isnt opening08:41
naliothcorine: well that is very strange08:41
HappyFoolcorine: wiki.ubuntu.com08:41
monki'm wondering if the person who installed added corine after his/her account08:41
corineConnected to ...08:41
HappyFoolcorine: what does 'grep admin /etc/group' say?08:41
monkare secondary accounts added to the sudoers list?08:41
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HappyFoolmonk: not by default, i don't think08:42
corinelpadmin:x:107:harald08:42
corineadmin:x:109:harald08:42
corinethats my father08:42
HappyFoolcorine: what is your username ? harald?08:42
HappyFoolah08:42
corinecorine is me :)08:42
corinesynaptic does work for him08:42
HappyFoolcorine: if you have root, i presume you're allowed to perform admin tasks?08:42
corinei dont know if i 'have root', but i do have the pwd08:43
HappyFoolcorine: the reason i ask, is that you can just add yourself to the 'admin' group; sudo will then work for you08:43
corinehow do i know?08:43
HappyFoolcorine: ask your dad ;)08:43
corinedoes he have to have added me to a list of root users?08:43
pfoxanyone ever got bootsplash to work with ubuntu?08:44
corineif so, probably not08:44
HappyFoolcorine: it will make your life easier re synaptic etc08:44
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HappyFoolcorine: but he gave you root's password ? or not?08:44
corineyes08:44
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corinecan i login as root via the login screen maybe?08:44
jayarnever do that08:45
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HappyFoolcorine: err. i guess. that's not really encouraged08:45
corineohmm i wont then08:45
anacronwhy is it bad to login as root?08:45
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anacroni mean, login in gnome as root?08:46
monkanacron: then everything you run is run as root08:46
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HappyFoolcorine: here's a workaround for now: 'su -c synaptic' -- enter root's password when prompted08:46
anacronmonk: yeah and what happens then?08:46
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HappyFoolcorine: however, i'd recommend adding yourself to the admin group; after all, you already have the root password08:46
chxI plan to buy a Razer Diamondback mouse. Anyone using that ?08:46
monkanacron: so, if you're not root, what happens if you do `rm -rf /`?08:47
corineyeah ill ask him08:47
monkvs what happens if you are ?08:47
flexsubotu: hallo...08:47
ubotuflexs: Bugger all, i dunno08:47
anacronmonk: :D okay i got the point, but usually you login as a root because you have to do something as a root08:47
corineHappyFool, Authentication failure ?08:47
monkanacron: *I* usually login as root from a console rather than gnome08:47
flexsubotu: how is you name08:48
HappyFoolcorine: erk. xauth ?08:48
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, flexs08:48
corineHappyFool, excus me?08:48
monkanacron: or use a terminal window...08:48
HappyFoolcorine: try this: 'su -c ls'08:48
flexsubout: how can i get root...08:48
anacronmonk: me too, but i just wanted to know is there really some other reason than careless user08:48
naliothanacron: and while the gui has root powers it has been known to screw up the whole systems permissions08:48
flexsubotu: how can i get root08:48
ubotuflexs: I give up, what is it?08:48
splittaanyone running xfce with ubuntu ?08:48
corineHappyFool, same problem08:48
HappyFoolflexs: ubotu, for all his mischievous charm, is rather ... ah. limited. ESS TEE EWE PEE EYE DEE, in other words.08:48
naliothanacron: making the system unusable by regular users until it's repaired08:48
HappyFoolcorine: then you don't have root's password ;)08:49
HappyFoolcorine: or you're typing it in wrong08:49
flexsubotu: how big are you ?08:49
naliothflexs: ubotu is a robot08:49
ubotuflexs: I think you lost me on that one08:49
corineHappyFool, thats the only possibility?08:49
anacronnalioth: oh well that makes some sense08:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy god the have a lot of wall papers08:49
flexsubotu: linux ?08:49
ubotuwell, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux08:49
naliothholy cow08:49
HappyFoolcorine: um. I use sudo, so i'm not too familiar with su error messages08:49
flexsubotu: screen resolution08:49
ubotuflexs: Bugger all, i dunno08:49
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flexsubotu: video card08:50
ubotuflexs: Bugger all, i dunno08:50
HentaiChurcH_of_FoamY: link08:50
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zenlunaticWhat is a CardBus interface?08:50
Hentaigod I need tab compelete08:50
anacronubotu: stepmania08:50
ubotuanacron: I give up, what is it?08:50
HappyFoolflexs: please do a /query ubotu so you guys can chat in private ;)08:50
corineHappyFool, getting added to the admin group will fix this all?08:50
anacron:<08:50
naliothHentai: you dont have it?08:50
anacron:D08:50
Hentaizenlunatic pcmica08:50
HappyFoolcorine: it will let you use sudo08:50
Hentaierr well its 32bit08:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYHentai http://www.deviantart.com/08:50
airmikeyin my Xdefault i have aterm opening up transparent...when i first created the xdefault folder it did..but once i rebooted my system ,aterm is back to the basic white background08:50
anacronhentai... well that's a focusing nick08:50
corineHappyFool, and the synaptic?08:50
Hentaioh there08:51
HappyFoolcorine: many of the ubuntu menu entries (e.g., for synaptic) automatically use sudo to run with root privileges08:51
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corineah08:51
corineso thats a yes? :)08:51
HappyFoolyes08:51
HappyFoolbut i don't know why su isn't working ;)08:51
corinealright... ill be harassing him then08:51
HappyFoolwell, i suspect it is a password thing08:51
corineyeah it only works at his account08:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYHentai i'm only on page 4 of 13,593,997 O_O08:52
HappyFooloh -- maybe su is also limited to the admin group.08:52
Hentailol08:52
corinemy first guess had something to do with keyboard settings; this keyboard has two layouts and a hardware switch... but thats probably nonsense08:52
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anacronChurcH_of_FoamY: have check out pu-sama's pictures they are something marvelous08:53
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanacron can you give me a link so i don't loose my place?08:53
anacronChurcH_of_FoamY: http://pu-sama.deviantart.com/08:53
gotonpoCan someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right/left instead of underneath? i can get it to happen in the file browser, but not on the desktop...08:54
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanacron thanx ^_^08:54
corineHappyFool, thanks a lot :) i think i know enough; otherwise ill see you soon ;)08:54
flexsnalioth: ok i getthe point, thanx....08:54
HappyFoolcorine: good luck08:54
splittaanyone running xfce with ubuntu ?08:54
corinethanks08:54
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virgulesplitta: I do08:54
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virguleshhh08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYanacron OMG! O_O thats some insane art ^_^08:54
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anacronChurcH_of_FoamY: bw-inc is another one if you like manga/anime style08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i do08:55
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^08:55
splittavirgule...works ok ?  easy to install ?08:55
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanacron i think i'm gonna print that one out on my hp plotter08:55
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: can't you middle or shift click for a new window?08:56
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virgulesplitta: yes.. all fine as far as I can tell. I installed with apt-get install xfce408:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes but for some reason it dosen't always work08:56
anacronChurcH_of_FoamY: i have colored one picture from pu-samas collection, but don't tell anyone :D08:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh wow awsome08:56
Hentaijoin ##apple08:56
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phenomenodo you people the question that asked a time ago? cause someone advised me k3b en somone other an other program and i dont remember the name of that program :s08:57
splittavirgule..great...i find both kde and gnome a little cumbersome on my athlon 50008:57
virgulei hear ya, im (stuck) with a powerpc 300mhz08:57
virgulerunning KDE3.4.108:57
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cbreatheThis is so weird. It seems like everything should be working.08:58
virguleI have installed a lot of these WM (xfce4, KDE, GNOME, blackbox, fluxbox, e16, WindowMaker among a couple others I dont recall) they all work fine, I think ;)08:59
splittavirgule...i was never able to get realplayer 8 running correctly on 4.208:59
phenomenono one can help me?08:59
virguleoh.. I never even tried08:59
HappyFoolphenomeno: maybe gnomebaker?08:59
phenomenocould be i will try :)08:59
gotonpois it possible to put text beside an icon instead of underneath on the desktop?09:00
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GigaClonhow to run .pyc files?09:00
splittai find on mdk 10.1 xfce is a reasonable compromise09:00
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HappyFoolGigaClon: 'python <filename>.pyc' ought to work09:00
cbreatheAnyone know anything about debugging sound? T_T09:01
HappyFoolGigaClon: typically python apps/scripts are distributed as source, though09:01
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HappyFoolGigaClon: in which case you can do 'python <filename>.py'09:01
naliothphenomeno: gnomebaker09:01
naliothphenomeno: graveman09:01
GigaClonwww.twobrotherssoftware.com09:01
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naliothRazor-X: glad you could join us09:01
phenomenobut that are all programs the burn a cd , I think i didn't explain well09:01
Razor-Xnalioth: heh09:02
Razor-XI got tnt working, finally09:02
GigaClonpygame.error: mixer system not initialized09:02
Razor-Xeven though emacs terminals have shit support for curses (don't even know how people run irssi in it, though I don't use irssi)09:02
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phenomenoalcohol120% make a virtual cd drive and there you can put in you cue files so that seems that it is a real driver and than you can install/play/...09:03
Razor-Xand now w3 works09:03
Razor-Xand now, i'm happy ;009:03
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Razor-X*;)09:03
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naliothphenomeno: you need to make an image using k3b or gnomebaker and then ask someone how to mount it09:03
HappyFoolRazor-X: did you get emacspeak working?09:03
Razor-XHappyFool: nopes09:03
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GigaClonanyone know about pygame?09:03
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Razor-XI wasn't too enthusiastic about that anyways, though09:04
BiSK-8hello09:04
bassinboyneed some help.... how can i print a .ps?09:04
HappyFoolRazor-X: i found some stuff about linking emacspeak to festival, (called emf) but that's not in ubuntu's repos09:04
Razor-Xbassinboy: you can convert it to .pdf09:04
HappyFoolRazor-X: and festival sounds a little weird, anyway09:04
phenomenoI can make an image of a cue file with thiose programs?09:04
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bassinboyRazor-X: i have it as a PDF09:04
Razor-Xbassinboy: then, why can't you print it?09:04
bassinboyi dont know the command to the prnter09:05
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HappyFoolGigaClon: you can install 'solarwolf' (from ubuntu repositories) to test pygame09:05
Razor-Xis the printer configured?09:05
bassinboyyes09:05
bassinboyi'm using xpdf09:05
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Razor-Xtry "lpr" as your printer program09:05
NeedinghelpHey guys i have an RT2500 base wireless card. I have to do a fewthings to get it to work. Now when i reboot the computer i have to redo all these steps again09:05
HappyFoolerk. installing solarwolf requires installing atlas. there's a weird dependency09:05
BiSK-8how can i change the time on the clock?09:05
Needinghelpis there a way i can make it automatic09:05
bassinboyRazor-X: Thanks :) ... didn't think itworked, but it tried it again09:06
Razor-Xbassinboy: as long as the printer works in CUPS, lpr should work, or feed it something custom09:06
Razor-Xlike here's my lpr string:09:06
naliothbrb09:06
Razor-Xlpr -PEpsonStylusC6609:06
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: you can write a startup script, and add to /etc/init.d, then use 'update-rc.d09:07
HappyFoolaargh09:07
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: you can write a startup script, and add to /etc/init.d, then use 'update-rc.d' to make sure it's called on boot09:07
Needinghelpo.009:07
Razor-Xwhere EpsonStylusC66 is teh name of my printer09:07
Razor-X*the09:07
Needinghelpum how?09:07
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: see 'man init' and 'man update-rc.d' for more information09:07
Needinghelpsorry imn a noob09:07
Needinghelpk will try09:07
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HappyFoolif you got your networking going i'm sure you can hack this ;)09:08
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Needinghelpi just followed  aguide step by step im not even sure what the commands did09:08
Needinghelpbut it worked cause im online09:08
HappyFoolah09:08
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Razor-Xnalioth: i'm working on NewUserGuide right now09:08
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Needinghelpo.0 what are run levels and stuff09:09
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Razor-XNeedinghelp: runlevels are as follows09:09
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Razor-Xlevels which dictate what the computer does when it runs09:09
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GigaClonHappyFool: sound doesn't work in pygame, works in everything else09:10
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Razor-Xthey're generally integer (digit) values09:10
Needinghelpahh09:10
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Razor-Xone value tells it to startup and immediately shut-off09:10
Razor-Xanother tells it to startup and boot into console mode09:10
Razor-Xanother tells it to startup and boot into X09:10
Razor-Xetc.09:10
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Needinghelpthis is way above me comprehesion level09:12
Needinghelpeven typing level it apperas09:12
Razor-XNeedinghelp: if it helps... i'm 15 ;)09:12
Needinghelpoh thanx09:12
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Razor-Xjust to make you feel worse about yourself and do more09:12
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Razor-Xread the manpages, that's the best way to learn, definitely09:12
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Needinghelpi dont have time to learn09:13
Razor-Xyou don't have time to read? *gasp*09:13
Needinghelpi leave again for work for a month and i need to get this up and running for m y lil bro09:13
Razor-XXD09:13
dapimp53Hey I have a quick question about wireless connection. It askes for my WEP key but I use a WPA Key... does that matter?09:13
Razor-Xahhh09:13
Needinghelpor else i would'09:13
Razor-Xwell, a month's reading can learn you a lot09:13
Needinghelpyeah09:13
Razor-XI learned LaTeX from lshort in 2 days09:13
Needinghelpcause i had this up and working before i went outta town last month but they hod a power outtage and the comp rebooted09:13
Razor-Xobviously, I coludn't do anything _spectacular_09:13
Razor-Xbut, hey, enough to work it09:14
Needinghelpand then wireless disapeared09:14
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dapimp53I also need help getting my touchpad to work... so if anyone can help with either of those09:14
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Needinghelp*sigh*09:15
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Razor-Xdapimp53: what's the problem?09:15
Razor-Xerrr09:15
Razor-Xwhat's the laptop model ;009:15
Razor-X*;)09:15
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dapimp53my touchpad doesn't work at all... the wireless connection doesnt seem to connect. It shows the ESSID but just wont seem to work.09:16
dapimp53Its a Toshiba Satelitte09:16
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Razor-Xhave you followed the NdisHowto/09:16
Razor-X*?09:16
Razor-X(for wireless internet)09:16
dapimp53No where is that09:16
Razor-X!wireless09:17
ubotuit has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards09:17
Razor-Xyou can start there ;009:17
Razor-X*;)09:17
dapimp53Do you have one for fixing my touchpad?09:17
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Razor-Xlemme do some googling09:18
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dapimp53I tried one I found in a ubuntu forum but it ended up crashing my computer09:19
dapimp53haha09:19
Razor-Xwhat model # Toshiba Satellite?09:19
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emodowoot, took 6 hours but i figured out how to get my rt2500 to work in ubuntu09:19
crankbenHi all! I've got this question: While installation I chose a resolution of 1024x768. Now I can't increase it.09:19
SPORTi have problems with just about any debian based distro on my lappy, so i leave it winderz09:20
dapimp53I believe its an A7509:20
steffenhi, i have a question about the fstab, i will mount a directory and will give access to every user, how can i make this?09:20
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SPORTbesides, i find it's always good to have a winderz computer, if for no other reason than to remind yourself, every now and again, of just WHY you went to linux09:20
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Razor-Xuggghhhh....09:20
jeewhat's the best source for mplayer in ubuntu? should i just use the debian-marillat packages?09:20
crankbenI mean I got the dialogue under system>... but I can only lower the resolution. Can anybody help?09:20
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dapimp53How do I find out what type of Nic card is in here?09:21
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Razor-Xdapimp53: you don't know? ;)09:21
dapimp53Not off the top of my head no09:22
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Razor-Xdapimp53: try running sudo lspci -v09:22
Razor-Xand sorting through the output09:22
Panzerboyany gpg gurus around?09:23
naliothsteffen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:23
steffenthx09:23
Velcancrankben:  you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf i believe09:23
naliothPanzerboy: mebbe i can help with gpg09:23
Panzerboynalioth: i would like to add more e-mail addresses of mine to a gpg key09:24
dapimp53Is this it?09:24
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dapimp530000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)09:24
jeewhat's multiverse? how does it differ from universe?09:24
Panzerboynalioth: i have this key generated for an e-mail address i have and i would like to add the other 2 addresses i have to this key09:24
Panzerboyis it possible?09:24
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jf6stop09:25
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HappyFooljee: multiverse packages have more restrictive licensing in some way09:25
jeeHappyFool, ah, ok. thanks09:25
naliothPanzerboy: wow you're out of the park on that one09:25
naliothPanzerboy: have you been to some gpg howtos?09:26
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[koji] Panzerboy: Have you try enigmail?09:26
xliumay I use acpid and apmd together at the same time?09:27
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SPORTwhere are the cursors hid on ubuntu?09:27
Panzerboynalioth: not yet :)09:27
Panzerboynalioth: i will check out some howto's :)09:27
pfoxi've got a strange kernel prob. i've got the kernel build and it runs, but there's no output on the screen during bootup. i get the initial kernel messages, but nothing for the init process09:27
pfoxanyone seen this before?09:27
SPORTi have a cursor theme that i wanna install. where do i put them in gnome?09:27
Panzerboy[koji] : i am using enigmail but i can't figure out how it can help me with this issue09:27
DAWKIRSTHey. Does anyone knows a way I can edit ID3 tags?09:27
naliothSPORT: probably ~/.themes  ?09:28
nalioth[koji] : Panzerboy wants to associate more than one email addy to his one gpg key09:28
HappyFoolDAWKIRST: search for id3 in synaptic, or do 'apt-cache search id3'09:28
naliothDAWKIRST: easytag09:28
xliuwhich one is better? acpid or apmd?09:28
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HappyFoolpfox: this is a bit of a shot in the dark: did you make an initrd image?09:29
pfoxHappyFool, i did do, yeah09:29
[koji] Panzerboy: You can using OpenPGP Key manaagemen of enigmail09:29
decafxliu: acpi is newer, most probably your motherboard supports only one of them09:29
eyequeuePanzerboy:  http://gnupg.org/documentation/howtos.html.en09:29
emodois there any book out there dedicated to ubuntu?09:29
Needinghelpsay i threw in an 80gb hdd from a win2k machine into the linux box how would i format said drive to ext2?09:29
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decafNeedinghelp: use cfdisk to create a linux partition first09:30
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  cfddisk /dev/hdb && e2fsck /dev/hdb1(or similar)09:30
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[koji] Panzerboy: There is only one Primary id the rest will be Secondary09:30
Needinghelpkool09:30
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HappyFoolpfox: ok, then i don't know09:31
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  sudo for those commands of course :)09:31
naliothPanzerboy: there you go, [koji]  has enlightened us09:31
pfoxHappyFool, crap :) oh well09:31
decafNeedinghelp: I can't stress enough, how important is choose the right disk09:31
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Needinghelpyeah09:31
pfoxanyone got any ideas why there's no output from the boot process? but the system does boot properly otherwise09:31
Needinghelpcfdisk not found?09:31
xliudecaf, thanks, i am using Dell Inspiron 5000e(pIII 700, 256mb ram). Do you think my mother board support acpi?09:31
HappyFooleyequeue: you meant maybe mkfs ?09:31
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  this is in ubuntu?09:31
Panzerboy[koji] : i see :)09:31
Needinghelpyeah09:31
Panzerboynalioth: thanks a bunch ! :)09:31
eyequeueHappyFool:  lol, yeah09:32
decafxliu: no, afaik09:32
[koji] Panzerboy: Is that what you want I hope09:32
xliuafaik?09:32
Needinghelpprimarey or logical?09:32
valtariccan anyone tell me how to get xmms.tar.gz to install on ubuntu?09:32
decafxliu: as far as I know09:32
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xliuok, thanks decaf09:32
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  cfddisk /dev/hdb && mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb1(or similar)09:32
decafvaltaric: you dont need it, we have deb package09:32
valtaricwere can a get my hands on a copy i can't find one.09:33
Needinghelpyep eyequeue that worked09:33
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  if you just want one big fat partition on it, primary will suffice09:33
Needinghelpk09:33
splittawhere is the ubuntu repository ?09:33
flughyou know, ubuntu is just nice to use. good work  (in case anyone cares)09:33
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nalioth!repositorys09:33
ubotunalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:33
decafvaltaric: take a look at ubuntuguide.org, add extra repos and use synaptic to install xmms (I prefer beep-media-player, gtk2 fork of xmms)09:33
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valtaricok thanks alot09:34
nalioths_dogsplitta: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:34
cbreatheOkay, finally got sound working, but I've run into another issue.09:34
nalioths_dogdecaf: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines09:34
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decafnalioths_dog: sure09:35
maciekhmm, has anyone noticed a lot of "MD5Sum mismatch" errors in the repositories?09:35
cbreathemaciek: That's the issue I'm having!09:35
eyequeuedecaf:  other than gtk1 vs gtk2, does beep differ?09:35
naliothmaciek: cbreathe the repos are wonky09:35
maciekwell, I'm certainly glad that I'm not the only one.09:35
flughmaciek, me too. seems some files have been trucated09:35
cbreathenalioth: So it's not just me?09:35
HappyFoolcbreathe, maciek: us.archive is having problems09:35
naliothmaciek: cbreathe use the source nalioths_dog sent to splitta above09:36
cbreathenalioth: OK.09:36
HappyFoolcbreathe: (et al) change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list09:36
cbreatheOops, sorry.09:36
naliothcbreathe: either way09:36
maciekokay, thanks guys.09:36
decafeyequeue: xmms seems unmaintained09:36
eyequeueHappyFool:  what seems to be wrong with us.*?  it is responding here09:36
maciekHappyFool, I'll try that.09:36
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xophErWhat to I need to be able to install Ubuntu on a SATA-drive?09:38
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cbreathexophEr: It just worked for me.09:38
cbreathexophEr: Didn't have to do anything special.09:39
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decafxophEr: nothing specific, if your ata controller supported by kernel09:39
xophErok09:39
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xophErthanks09:39
HappyFooleyequeue: people having been having problems with it09:39
HappyFooleyequeue: i can't tell why it would work for one person and not another -- have you actually installed anything?09:40
Niekeyack, bad lag: any ideas how to solve 'freeze' problems (kernel-panics) using hoary-amd64?09:40
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maciekby the way, would any of you be able to suggest the risk of switching to the breezy repositories now?09:41
HappyFoolNieke: look on the wiki; e.g, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters09:41
sky_monkey007hey everyone.  Could anyone suggest a good wireless signal strength monitoring applet for Gnome?09:41
HappyFoolaargh09:41
HappyFoolNieke: i meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSystemCrash09:41
Nieketa HappyFool09:41
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manterohi everybody09:41
maciekI have a package there that I really need, and I don't think it would cause much of a problem for me.09:41
blackoutare there any gmailish webmail programs?09:41
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manteroexcuse me, but I have a question about the microphones09:42
manteroi don't know how to configure it09:42
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sergiohello09:45
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valtariccan anyone show me how to add an extra repitory so i can get xmms09:46
valtaric?09:46
maciekwhich repository do you want to add, valtaric?09:47
sergiohttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories09:47
sergiolook there09:47
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valtarici wan to try adn get xmms on my system and the last person i talked to to me i neede to get it from a respitories and i have no clue how to do that (i'm new to ubuntu)09:47
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HappyFool!apt09:48
ubotuit has been said that apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/09:48
HappyFool!repositories09:48
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:48
trebuchethey09:48
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HappyFoolvaltaric: you can read about repositories, and how to use them, at those two links09:48
mohamedsdfa09:48
[koji] !wine09:48
ubotu[koji] : I give up, what is it?09:48
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valtaricok thanks09:49
trebucheti've got a iomega buz capture card that i'd like to get working on ubuntu. can anybody help?09:49
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Panzerboy[koji] : thanks a lot for the enigmail suggestion09:50
Panzerboy[koji] : i managed to do the trick quite nicely :)09:50
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bob_hello! I'm trying to make a splash image so I don't have to watch all the stuff loading. is this possible? I added a splash image to grub but it's only displayed in the background of the grub menu not after that.. :(09:50
[koji] Panzerboy: glad to help09:50
moirehi09:50
dapimp53I just installed ndiswrapper-utils... From what I take I can load my windows driver09:50
dapimp53is that correct?09:50
Vallehey can anyone tell me the command to get the rest disk space?09:50
moirewhere can i get sources for the ubuntu kernel? are there any ubuntu patches?09:50
bob_Valle, df .09:51
[koji] df -Th09:51
Vallethanks :)09:51
HappyFoolmoire: try linux-source-2.6.1009:51
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decafmoire: you should install kernel-package and read its documents09:52
moireah linux-source, i thinked of kernel-source :D09:52
Needinghelphow do i unmount a drive09:52
moireumount09:52
ubuntusalut i fora09:52
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Needinghelp unmount /dev/hdb109:52
Needinghelpbash: unmount: command not found09:52
Needinghelp:(09:52
HappyFoolumount09:52
Needinghelpdoh09:52
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moirewithout n09:52
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HappyFooli've made the same mistake ;)09:53
moireyou are beginners? ;)09:53
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eyequeueepxerienced poeple neevr tpyo09:53
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Needinghelpumount: /home/steven/Mp3: device is busy09:54
Needinghelphow is it busy?09:54
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  are you "in" a directory on that partition?09:54
Needinghelpno09:54
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: try 'lsof /home/steven/Mp3'   <-- should tell you what programs are accessing that mount09:55
hajikiCan Totem use the win32codecs so that I don't have to install mplayer?09:55
NeedinghelpCOMMAND    PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE  SIZE NODE NAME09:56
Needinghelpgam_serve 6944 steven   66r   DIR   3,65  4096    5 /home/steven/Mp309:56
Needinghelpgam_serve 6944 steven   67r   DIR   3,65 69632  279 /home/steven/Mp3/Steven's Musik09:56
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moireHappyFool: do you suggest 2.6.10 or 11 for me? ;)09:56
jeehajiki, why wouldn't you want to install mplayer? ;)09:56
HappyFool2.6.1009:56
Razor-Xjee: cuz it's stupid! ;)09:56
decafhajiki: there is a way to do it. installing old totem with xine backend. seems buggy09:56
HappyFoolmoire: that's what hoary is using09:57
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HappyFoolmoire: there are some kernelcompile howto's on the wiki09:57
moirei know, what against 11?09:57
NeedinghelpHappyfool so what program is using it?09:57
jeeRazor-X, it's the best09:57
hajikijee, mplayer sound and video goes out of sync and it annoys me :(09:57
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eyequeuemoire:  ubuntu wasn't designed to support it09:57
jeehajiki, oh09:57
kismet-nohdhas anyone managed to use a pcmcia Prism2 card with kismet *monitor mode* on ubuntu running off CD on a laptop with NO hard drive?09:57
Computer__GuruI just wanted to say09:57
Computer__GuruUbuntu ROCKS!09:57
HappyFoolmoire: i don't know. i'm conservative ;)09:57
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: it's some file-monitoring doodad09:57
moireeyqueue: what is so different?09:58
hajikidecaf, lol i was about to install totem-xine, but knowing that i guess i'll stick with mplayer09:58
Computer__GuruIt's won me over from the knoppix-based deb system I used to run09:58
Needinghelpany idea how to kill it?09:58
eyequeuemoire:  hoary was built around 2.6.10, breezy will be around 2.6.1209:58
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moireah, i understand09:58
Needinghelpcool09:58
Needinghelpit just went away09:58
Computer__GuruI hear breezy will have a 5 year support program09:58
eyequeuemoire:  i know .11 managed to break my sound and networking09:58
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HappyFoolNeedinghelp: try 'pkill gam_serve'09:58
[koji] Needinghelp:  kill <PID> be wary though09:58
Needinghelpits all good now09:59
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decafComputer__Guru: that's for the release after breezy, at 04.200609:59
HappyFoolthe Acrobatic Aardvark09:59
Computer__Gurucheck out what I did with my k/ubuntu system: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2628309:59
moireok, i will use 1009:59
Computer__Gurudecaf: I see. either way, that's impressive09:59
moirethx09:59
Razor-XI didn't change around my KDE much, my Eterm is home-configured though10:00
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Computer__Guruyou can't even tell it's kde on my system :)10:00
moireanybody tried wine?10:00
Computer__Guruonce in a while, but it gives me a hell of a hangover10:01
[koji] lol10:01
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Computer__Gurui prefer rum10:01
Razor-Xmoire: I use it for Progress Quest10:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i open up a tab in firefox that i closed on accedent O_o10:01
trebucheti need some help getting my iomega buz a/v capture card working on linux. can someone please help?10:01
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Computer__Gurugo back to that page10:02
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: you can't ;)10:02
Razor-Xthat's why I love Opera10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<10:02
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Razor-Xin Opera, you just Undo10:02
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Razor-Xet voila, C'est un tab10:02
Razor-XComputer__Guru: any particular reason?10:02
Computer__Gurui just dont like it, i guess10:02
eyequeueChurcH_of_FoamY:  you can try ^T and then up/down arrows in the history10:03
Computer__Guruim a big firefox advocate, though10:03
eyequeueChurcH_of_FoamY:  or ^t and the first few letters of the url10:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk10:03
Needinghelphow can i find out what filesystem a hdd is using10:03
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Computer__Guruokay, in gaim, i keep setting the chat windows up a certain way, and they dont save10:03
Computer__Gurulike i make the editbox one line, and remove the formatting toolbar10:04
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Computer__Guruand every time i open a new chat, they go back... is there not a way to stop this behavior?10:04
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decafComputer__Guru:   that's why I use gossip, everyone here should avoid IM systems other than jabber10:05
Computer__Gurublah10:05
Computer__Gurutell that to the 800 collective people on 6 different systems that i use10:05
Razor-Xgo back to what?10:05
Razor-Xahhh, I don't use gaim10:05
Razor-XI use TNT10:05
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trebuchetWARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support     WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")10:06
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trebuchethow do i fix those?10:06
eyequeuei thought jabber could interface with those other systems?10:06
Computer__Gurubesides, i have a really low icq uin, and a bunch of illegals on yahoo im not prepared to give up :D10:06
Razor-Xeyequeue: it can10:07
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decafComputer__Guru: we have our own jabber-server with three friends. It's impossible to have 800 real friends hehe10:07
Razor-Xbut, it's not very full-featured10:07
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trebuchethow about a simpler problem... i want to increase the font sizes on my system... how/where/10:07
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Needinghelp/dev/hdb1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux10:07
Needinghelp  <-- what filesystem is this hdd using?10:07
eyequeuedecaf:  "real friends" are those who heard i won the lottery and want things, just ask them :)10:07
againstmeis it possible to install non deb packages on ubuntu?10:07
Computer__Gurueither way, i use gaim, and I'm happy with it10:07
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Needinghelpcause im trying to get that thing to be automounted10:08
kbrooksNeedinghelp, a linux file system10:08
Computer__Guruexcept it wont keep my settings in chat10:08
Needinghelpand i cant seem to get the fs right10:08
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  /etc/fstab10:08
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Needinghelpi went in there10:08
Needinghelpand tried specifying Linux as the fs but it dont like it10:08
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Computer__Gurutry ext310:08
Needinghelpmount: unknown filesystem type 'Linux'10:09
Computer__Guruor ext2 or whatever it is10:09
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: have you run mkfs ?10:09
Computer__Gurulinux isnt actually an fs type10:09
HappyFoolNeedinghelp: linux filesystems should be auto-detected10:09
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  'Linux" isn't a fs type10:09
Needinghelpso in fstab set it to auto then?10:09
Computer__Gurutry specifying auto as the type10:09
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  what mkfs command did you use?10:09
againstmeis it possible to install non .deb packages on ubuntu?10:09
Computer__Guruagainstme: sure it is10:09
eyequeueagainstme:  not advised10:10
HappyFoolagainstme: you can try using 'alien' to convert rpms to deb, but Your Mileage May Vary10:10
eyequeueagainstme:  see man alien for details10:10
Needinghelpcfdisk /dev/hdb && mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb110:10
Computer__Guruagainstme: use alien to convert rpm's to .deb, or just unzip a src tarball and configure and install it10:10
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  okay, your fs type is "ext2"10:10
zoolucioneshow do you make .deb pack?10:11
againstmewhat if its a .tar file and the main files inside are install.sh? the install.sh does nothing10:11
Needinghelp/dev/hdb1       /home/steven/Mp3 ext2    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       010:11
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  something like this ... /dev/hda12      /exports        ext2    defaults        0       310:11
Computer__Guruagainstme: try: sh install.sh10:11
Needinghelpis that a proper line for fstab?10:11
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Needinghelpoh10:11
againstmetried that and no dice10:11
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ginventAnyone have a canon pixma iP1500 running on ubuntu?10:11
Computer__Gurucheck the readme file then10:11
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  change it to your needs of course10:11
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Computer__Guruthere must be some special instructions10:11
Computer__Guruwhat is the package?10:11
againstmeits on my bros computer but i think one of them is limewire10:12
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Needinghelpok so only 1 thing left to do10:12
ginventI got this free printer and I can't get it to work on this silly thing... lol... damn canon.10:12
Computer__Gurudoes anybody know what's up with this??: jay      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 06:42 - 07:09  (00:26)10:12
Needinghelpthat is get it so i dont have to re install the wireless card everytime the computer reboots10:12
Computer__Guruthat's NOT my ip10:12
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eyequeueNeedinghelp:  /etc/network/interfaces, probably10:13
Needinghelpis that a txt file?10:13
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: where do you see that?10:13
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  auto eth1, for example10:13
ginventI can't get the canon japan drivers installed because of dependency issue... damn, it is just a freaking printer... :D10:14
Needinghelpso for the wireless card it would be auto ra010:14
Computer__GuruHappyFool: last -d (EVERY time it shows my username, including THIS session, it uses that IP)10:14
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  yes, any "good" linux app should be configurable via flat text files in /etc :)10:14
Computer__GuruHappyFool: and others have reported the same thing, event he same ip10:14
eyequeueNeedinghelp:  well, look at the existing stanza for the interface you use ('man 5 interfaces' for explanation how that file works)10:15
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HappyFoolhmm10:15
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Computer__GuruHappyFool: try a last -d i bet you get it too10:15
HappyFooli guess curses that output a bit bigger10:15
ginventHarumph... it seems I have stepped on a multi-person unanswered question.10:15
Needinghelpwish me luck10:15
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  samara city bank in russia? :(10:16
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: actually i only have my own username and reboot10:16
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ginventLOL no wonder frys was giving the printer away...10:16
Computer__Guruyeah, now what ip is there?10:16
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Computer__Gurui only have my username and reboot as well10:17
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HappyFoolComputer__Guru: oh, riht10:17
HappyFoolright, even10:17
Computer__Guruyeah it's a bug10:17
Computer__Gurugotta be10:17
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: some guy was on earlier and said it was a bug10:17
eyequeuebug in what i wonder10:18
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Computer__Gurutalking about pax?10:18
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Computer__Gurui wonder too10:18
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andrew__What directory would I install applications into?10:18
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Computer__Gurui got half a mind to setup a shell account for someone and let them login just to see if it shows their actual ip or the russian one10:18
WalkmanHello UB gurus !10:19
HappyFoolhave you looked on bugzilla?10:19
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decafandrew__: you need basic unix knowledge10:19
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HappyFoolComputer__Guru: ah, it seems to be there10:19
HappyFoolhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256810:19
eyequeueandrew__:  ~/bin/ ?10:19
TheDarkSidei have one stupid question ;) - how long must i wait for ubuntu cds after i reg ?:)10:19
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WalkmanCould anybody help me with time-admin ??10:20
eyequeueTheDarkSide:  i've heard 6 weeks?10:20
IneedHelpok10:20
IneedHelpwekk it worked10:20
Computer__Guruandrew__: stop thinking windows. most binaries install into /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin while the data for those binarties usually install into /usr/share or /usr/share/apps, while the libraries for thise binaries install into /lib, /usr/lib, or /usr/local/lib10:20
paxmasterdo I have to recompile the kernel for iptables to fully work10:20
IneedHelpbut now that folder i mounted i dont have write permissions to it?10:20
TheDarkSideeyequeue ok, thx10:20
WalkmanI want simply to use Monday as the first day of the week ... help anyone ?10:21
eyequeueTheDarkSide:  i imagine it may be sooner now that the "rush" is over10:21
Computer__Guruwhyw ould you do that? monday is not the first day of the week10:21
dapimp53I am trying to use ndiswrapper to try to install the driver for my Atheros AR5004G Wireless Card but have a few problems. I try sudo ndiswraper -i net5211.inf and it gives me a command not found10:21
dapimp53any ideas?10:21
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TheDarkSideeyequeue i hope so...10:21
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eyequeueComputer__Guru:  in some locales it is10:21
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leahcimandrew__:  what would you like to install?10:22
Computer__Gurueyequeue: well,t hat's just silly :D10:22
andrew__How do you know if a "binary" :) is installed in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin10:22
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eyequeueandrew__:  "which foo"10:22
IneedHelpSo i mounted a drive. but now it says i dont have write permission. How do i give that right to myself?10:22
Computer__Guruandrew__: whereis binary -or- which binary10:22
decafComputer__Guru: for me its not, monday is the first day.10:22
Computer__Guruwell, that's weird.10:22
HappyFoolIneedHelp: you need to mount with option '-o umask=000'10:23
eyequeueandrew__:  if ubuntu installed it, it's in /usr/bin/, if a user installed it, it should be in /usr/local/bin/10:23
andrew__Okay, so say I wanted to install Azureus in the near future...10:23
Computer__Guruj0o should all be americanz!10:23
HappyFoolIneedHelp: writing to NTFS partitions is not supported10:23
andrew__Okay, so if it is user-installed, it goes to /usr/local/bin?10:23
eyequeueandrew__:  install things via the package management system and they will be in /usr/bin10:23
IneedHelpno its that linux partition10:23
bob_anyone got skype working? when I try to dial a number it just hangs..10:23
HappyFoolandrew__: my recommendation, which no-one ever listens to ;) is to put your own stuff in $HOME/usr10:23
decafandrew__: did you install java? use 'java-package' (make-jpkg) for it10:23
Computer__GuruHappyFool: that's because $HOME/usr isnt int he path and would make it a royal pain int he ass10:24
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: nothing hacking .bashrc can't fix ;)10:24
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eyequeueHappyFool:  ~/bin/ is a bit more common usuage i think10:24
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IneedHelp/dev/hdb1       /home/steven/Mp3 ext2    defaults, -o umask=000        0       3        <--- is that not proper?10:24
dapimp53Can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?10:24
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HappyFooleyequeue: yeah, for scripts etc. I had various python versions installed; they need a more-or-less compete /usr tree10:25
Computer__Guruthat reminds me10:25
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eyequeueIneedHelp:  the uppercase is a bit non-standard and the -o is not for the fstab file10:25
IneedHelpo.010:25
Computer__GuruHappyFool: how do i give control of such things BACk to /etc/profile where im used to?10:25
andrew__Okay, so for anything I install, /usr/local/bin, and any updates to ubuntu-installed programs or installations from ubuntu in /usr/bin?10:25
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HappyFoolComputer__Guru: i don't think /etc/profile is sourced by gdm10:25
Computer__Guruwho uses gdm? :D10:25
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Phrostbyteme?10:26
IneedHelpso uh hmmm10:26
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: ok, how do you login?10:26
Computer__Gurups aux | grep dm:10:26
Computer__Gururoot      6879  0.0  0.2   2592   796 ?        Ss   06:15   0:00 /usr/bin/kdm10:26
Computer__Gurujay       9122  0.0  0.3   3764  1188 ?        R    16:26   0:00 sh -c ps aux | grep dm10:26
IneedHelpwhat would i put in fstab and what command would i use to make it writeable10:26
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: i don't know kdm10:26
andrew__Okay, so for anything I install, /usr/local/bin, and any updates to ubuntu-installed programs or installations from ubuntu in /usr/bin? (Is that correct?)10:26
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: but, if it's the same, you can look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d and add custom stuff there10:26
Computer__Guruyou dont understand10:26
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HappyFoolComputer__Guru: i don't know if kdm sources /etc/profile or not, but i suspect not10:27
Computer__Gurui want to edit one file for environment settings and have them take effect system-wide10:27
eyequeueIneedHelp:   /dev/hdb1       /home/steven/mp3 ext2    defaults        0       310:27
Computer__Guruthis used to be /etc/profile10:27
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IneedHelpk i have that10:27
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HappyFoolComputer__Guru: here's a better link for the 'last' bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892510:27
eyequeueIneedHelp:   umount it, then chmod the mountpoint to what you want10:27
IneedHelphuh10:27
eyequeueIneedHelp:  then mount it10:27
decafandrew__: azureus install script puts all files in one directory. I installed it in ~/software/azureus. then linked it's startup scipt to ~/bin10:27
ryuhi, has anyone a source for the msttcorefonts10:27
eyequeueIneedHelp:  umount /home/steven/mp310:28
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: maybe you can add a '. /etc/profile' in a file to Xsession.d scripts -- i don't know if that'll work10:28
decafryu: it worked for me? why you need sources?10:28
eyequeueIneedHelp:  chown /home/steven/mp3 steven10:28
andrew__Wow, getting confused... What's the STANDARD directory for user-installed binaries?10:28
eyequeueIneedHelp:  chmod 775 /home/steven/mp310:28
eyequeueIneedHelp:  mount /home/steven/mp310:28
PhrostbyteAnyone else have problems with XMMS hanging?10:28
decafandrew__: for global install /opt10:29
ryunot sources, i mean a reposarty, from where i can install it, i think it translatet source wrong10:29
eyequeueandrew__:  /usr/local/bin10:29
ryu*i10:29
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Computer__Gurueyequeue: but a lot of packages ignore that and install into /usr/bin anyways10:29
andrew__Sorry, coming from "Program Files" in Windows... Is there not something similiar in linux? A standard directory where you can install (or compile) applications?10:29
eyequeueandrew__:  "user-installed" meaning NOT via the pacakge management system (if you use apt-get, it goes in /usr/bin)10:30
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eyequeueComputer__Guru:  that's not user-installed10:30
MrMaDSeNhi10:30
Computer__Gurueyequeue: but if you sudo make install it goes into /usr/bin as well10:30
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  that's system-installed10:30
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Computer__Guruyeah yeah10:30
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: not responsible programs ;)10:30
andrew__Okay, thanks!10:30
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IneedHelpsteven@steven:~$ chown /home/steven/mp3 steven10:30
IneedHelpchown: `/home/steven/mp3': invalid user10:30
IneedHelpo.010:30
HappyFoolother way around10:30
HappyFoolusername first10:30
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  if any make install puts in in other than /usr/local/, then complain to the author :)10:30
IneedHelpoh10:31
MrMaDSeNanyone know what has become of that fine line for line guide on installing Sun Java on Ubuntu on ubuntuguide.org?10:31
eyequeueIneedHelp:  lol, my bad10:31
Computer__Gurui dont user-install jack shit. i always do a sudo make install10:31
HappyFool!java10:31
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:31
andrew__Anyone have a really good linux beginner's site?10:31
paul__sudo apt-get install sun-javaj2re1.510:31
HappyFoolMrMaDSeN: you can look on the wiki10:31
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paul__make sure you have the appropriate apt sources enabled10:31
kbrooksMrMaDSeN, we dont recommend the ubuguide10:31
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  that IS user-installed :)  why subvert the package management system btw?10:31
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kbrookslol10:32
Computer__Gurubecause not everything i want to run is in the universe10:32
MrMaDSeNkbrooks: ok.. that what I thought... they change it once in a while to something complety unuseful10:32
ryuthe msttcorefonts arnt in the reposatys i have10:33
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  oh, i took "always" literally10:33
kbrooksummm10:33
paul__use the unofficial guide. it works, the dictators at ubuntu dont like it, but it works10:33
IneedHelpok i did that stuff eyequeue and it still says i dont have write perms10:33
kbrooksnalioth_wrkn, when did we discover that the ubuguide is bad10:33
kbrookspaul__, the ubuntu guide?10:33
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eyequeueIneedHelp:  ls -ld /home/steven/mp310:33
paul__yep10:34
andrew__My one big complaint with linux is packages... There isn't one standard package, and using a package environment seems to complicate things.10:34
kbrookspaul__,10:34
kbrooks!ubuntuguide10:34
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:34
paul__kbrooks yes10:34
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IneedHelpdrwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-07-10 14:07 /home/steven/Mp310:34
HappyFoolandrew__: ubuntu uses apt, which works well10:34
IneedHelpo.010:34
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kkathmanHas anyone around here given Koffice 1.4 a spin yet?10:34
HappyFoolandrew__: package management considerably simplifies things ;) as you'll discover if you ever need to compile a complicated app10:34
eyequeueandrew__:  you may prefer something like lfs or gentoo10:34
Computer__Guruwhich is to say that ubuntu is debian based :)10:34
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flipyhi10:35
HappyFoolheh10:35
HappyFoollfs10:35
HappyFooldon't be cruel!10:35
Computer__Guruyeah let's get a newb up and running on lfs, and in a month he'll know more than we do collectively :D10:35
eyequeueandrew__: different distros have different philosophies, and some place (such as ubuntu) greater emphasis on package management systems10:35
flipyis there any way to recover an ubuntu installation after a windows fixmbr/fixtool command?10:35
HappyFoolflipy: yeah. there's instructions on the wiki10:36
HappyFoolstand by...10:36
Computer__Guruor he'll have shot himself for breaking his system 982713691827364  times10:36
flipyoh thanks HappyFool10:36
flipyi'll look at the wiki10:36
HappyFoolflipy: here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:36
eyequeueflipy:  no idea what they do ... did they overwrite the mbr?  if so, you may want to reinstall grub (via a boot cd)10:36
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flipyeyequeue: they do overwrite the mbrt10:36
leahcimIm having a bit of trouble setting up ndiswrapper...  my laptop is an HP ze4500 my onboard wireless is Broadcom Corporation  BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN10:36
Computer__Guru(or lilo)10:36
andrew__apt does work well, but not flawless. Why can't there just be a standardized package manager? Like what OpenOffice is doing with office documents, there should be some sort of open package, that isn't used by any one entity.10:37
nalioth_wrknflipy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:37
flipythanks guys!10:37
eyequeueflipy:  yeah, typical ms, "we are the only thing you want" attitude :)  it overwrote grub, and that's easily fixed with the intructions on the wiki10:37
leahcimI have followed theese instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683....10:37
harris|uI just installed the 32 bit version of ubuntu, I did added the repositories -> apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade -- Is there anything else I need to do to make sure all of my aps are up-to-date?10:37
harris|u- did10:37
Computer__Guruandrew__: the problem there is every package system thinks it is superior to the others. you're going to have to find the one that you like and go with it10:37
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HappyFoolharris|u: sounds about right10:38
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Razor-Xubotu windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:38
ubotuokay, Razor-X10:38
flipyeyequeue: that's what I'm gonna do (well, should thought that somehow)10:38
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: your lack of faith in apt is .... disturbing ;)10:38
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Computer__Gurui have tremendous faith in apt :)10:38
leahcimleahcim@box13:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper10:38
leahcimPassword:10:38
leahcimFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted10:38
leahcimleahcim@box13:~$ ndiswrapper -l10:38
leahcimInstalled ndis drivers:10:38
leahcimbcmwl5  driver present, hardware present10:38
eyequeueandrew__:  you are coming from an ms world perhaps?  one of the *good* points about linux is choice.  people can find the system that best fits their individual preferences10:38
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leahcimany hints for me?10:39
eyequeueHappyFool:  lol10:39
HappyFoolyou need the 'identify' package before you actually know what you're installing10:39
Razor-XHappyFool: emacs based package-management, man10:39
Razor-XHappyFool: does emacs have a nethack client?10:39
eyequeueHappyFool:  in screen(1) there's actually a nethack mode :)10:39
HappyFooland we'll have 'cursed' and 'blessed' packages10:39
nalioth_wrknleahcim: yes, stay away from ubuntuguide10:39
HappyFoolRazor-X: yeah, it does, actually10:39
kbrookslol10:39
Razor-XHappyFool: thought so10:39
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nalioth_wrknRazor-X: messages await10:39
Razor-Xnalioth_wrkn: ahhh, lemme see then10:39
=== Computer__Guru installs a 100% cursed system
Computer__Gurujay@damned-box (~)$:10:40
eyequeueleahcim:  assuming you used the right password? :)10:40
leahcimheh10:40
leahcimyes10:40
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: with ball-and-chain to match? ;)10:40
Computer__Guruhey how do i enable the root account?10:40
eyequeueleahcim:  i was just going to say, in the future don't paste such long things, it tends to irritate in here.  i've not used ndiswrapper, sorry10:40
cat_powergreets - I have a dumb question, I've just installed loki's quake2 package, and I cannot get sound.  Error is: ALSA snd error couldn't set params (Invalid argument)10:40
paul__guru10:41
HappyFool!sudo10:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:41
paul__system10:41
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: i think that wiki link will tell you10:41
andrew__It can be viewed as choice, or possibly confusion. One thing about a standard package management system would be easier development. You'd have a standard for installation. I think that would also really open up "choice", as new distrobutions won't have to deal with catering to one package manager or another.10:41
cat_powernever had issue with sounds on quake2 - what's the cinch?10:41
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  it's considered a security feature of ubuntu not to10:41
MrMaDSeNapt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5.0  is the right command? when adding the mirrors from wiki java site ?10:41
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: if not, something like 'sudo passwd root' ought to do it10:41
Computer__Guruyea yea yea i know10:41
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  that said, read: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:41
Computer__Guruiw ant it anyways10:41
TheDarkSidewhere can i find list what packets contains ubuntu ?10:41
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  i had to caveat it first :)10:42
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leahcimeyequeue: : sorry abouth that, Il be more carefull in the future10:42
ColonelKernelhow do I show non-active users in gaim?10:42
andrew__Then you have all the best minds from each package manager focusing on improving one.10:42
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: synaptic will list all the packages10:42
pgidzandrew__, take a look at www.autopackage.org this project is trying to set a standard for package management10:42
TheDarkSidesynaptic ?10:42
eyequeueandrew__:  that's also the One True Distribution logic, which of course many disagree with10:42
HappyFoolandrew__: unfortunately different package management systems have already been developed, and are unlikely to be abandoned by their respective promoters10:43
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HappyFoolTheDarkSide: System -> Administration -> Synaptic10:43
TheDarkSideHappyFool i havent still ubuntu ..10:43
eyequeueleahcim:  if no ndiswrapper-fluent folks show up in here soon, i'd suggest wiki.ubuntu.com10:43
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: ah10:43
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com10:43
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: but that's only really useful if you know what you're looking for10:44
andrew__Wow, good link: http://www.autopackage.org/10:44
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TheDarkSideHappyFool i want to see all packets in list ..10:44
TheDarkSideif there is any page .10:44
cat_powerso, does anyone have Quake2 running on Ubuntu with sound?10:44
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: sorry, don't know of one offhand10:44
HappyFoolTheDarkSide: ask google10:45
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Computer__Guruyay i have root now10:45
TheDarkSideok, thanks10:45
valtaricdoes anybody know how i can get an wma to mp3 converter?10:45
paul__cool guru10:45
HappyFoolComputer__Guru: you mean you have the amulet of yendor now ?10:45
eyequeueComputer__Guru:  are em are .... heh10:45
paul__rebel against the dictators and enable root login hehe10:46
Computer__Guruty paul, everyone who helped10:46
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paul__yw10:46
MrMaDSeNwooot.... 65 mb for sun java 1.5  can this be true?10:46
amittp_does ubuntu have batik, fop and svgviewer in any repository?10:46
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Computer__Guruis there a package for java so i dont have to get the one from sun?10:47
eyequeueMrMaDSeN:  lol, sounds about right though10:47
paul__sun java is a large file10:47
Hieronymusamittp_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:47
MrMaDSeNok.. damn10:47
andrew__Another problem... media support! Is there a way to view streaming video from say... wmv or mov files on linux?10:47
MrMaDSeN:))10:47
valtariccan i get ubuntu to play WMA files?10:47
MrMaDSeNxmms?10:47
valtaricyup10:47
eyequeueMrMaDSeN:  grab the jre if you don't need the jdk, and want to save space10:47
paul__i think there may be a plugin for xmms, not sure10:47
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Computer__Guruandrew__: apt-get build-dep mplayer-686 && apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts10:47
Computer__Guru(make sure you have universe sources)10:47
Dr_Willisheh - getting where 70% of the questions can be answered by  checking -->  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/ and the  Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:48
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eyequeueonly 70? ;)10:48
MrMaDSeNhehe10:48
paul__if gotten vlc player to work, it supports most codec10:48
Computer__Gurumplayer is prettier :D10:48
MrMaDSeNsorry.. kinda newbie here... thats what irc is for.. isn10:48
Dr_Williseyequeue,  the other 30% seem to be people wanting to get their wireless or sound working,10:48
MrMaDSeNisn't it ? :D10:48
valtaricsame..10:48
valtaricdo ou know of an mp3 converter so i cna change all my WMA's into something ubuntu can play?10:49
paul__audacity?10:49
HappyFoolDr_Willis: yeah, sound seems to be a real problem. weird.10:49
Dr_Willisive been playing wma's on ubuntu i THINK... only had like 1 or 2 of them to test..10:49
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Dr_WillisHappyFool,  90% of that is people tht cant find the right slider to unmute their cards. :P10:50
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Computer__Guruis there a package for the latest jre?10:50
valtarichow?10:50
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ManicMichaelHello, together!10:50
HappyFoolDr_Willis: hrm10:50
MrMaDSeNhow can I cancel an apt-get install?10:50
paul__valtaric check on audacity10:50
Dr_WillisGuess the installer is going to have to have a 'sound test' wizard :P10:50
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HappyFoolDr_Willis: unsupported cards are a nightmare, imo10:50
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eyequeueMrMaDSeN:  ^C10:50
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MrMaDSeNhuh?10:50
Dr_WillisHappyFool,  thats why i buy creative cards. :P  it pays to do reserch into hardware for your linux box.10:50
eyequeueMrMaDSeN:  hold down control, press c10:50
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Computer__Gurudoes anybody have an answer?10:51
bleckhey, i can't seem to find it from google =( im trying to install dvdrip, but apt can't find transcode... and im guessing its because its amd64 (all i have is transcode_docs)10:51
bleckanyone know how to get it installed for 64-bit10:51
nalioths_dogComputer__Guru: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 10:51
Computer__Gurugotchya :)10:52
nalioth_wrknbleck: yes, its b/c u are running amd6410:52
Zym0tiChow can i put the output of cat | grep in a bash script var?? this is what i have atm: SNDCRD = `cat /etc/asound.conf | grep hw:0,0` but it doesn't works10:52
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bleckalright, well is there some apt-get repository that has a 64-bit version?  or do i have to use the chroot environment?10:52
eyequeueZym0tiC:  is the colon problematic?10:52
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ManicMichael@all: Is ubuntu working with a so-called "WIN-Modem" - I had already problems with the SuSe-distribution (germany)..?10:52
jesushi10:53
naliothbleck: you may be able to build from source10:53
Ang3lFir3quick question ne on got a clue why my nic can ping and tracert/dns but not connect to irc or do http?10:53
naliothbleck: using apt-get10:53
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eyequeueAng3lFir3:  what is tracert?10:53
bleckahhh, your right... ill try that, thanks for suggestion... nothing but that though?10:53
acid2_Hey, does anyone have any experience with CVS serving?10:53
Ang3lFir3traceroute10:53
HappyFoolacid2_: should be doable via ssh10:53
Zym0tiCeyequeue, wat do you mean with colon?10:53
acid2_I have a server up, and when I try and create a new module in eclipse I get "permission denied"10:54
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eyequeueZym0tiC:  hw : 0,010:54
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acid2_It looks like a cvsd error10:54
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CrutonmanHey everyone10:54
acid2_I get.. "cvs: cannot mkdir /cvsroot/MyTeamProject: Permission denied"10:55
Zym0tiCdoen't know for sure, i thought that if i use `  ` signs it will capture thw whole line10:55
Zym0tiCbut i will try10:55
naliothbleck: amd64 falls behind in having available binaries10:55
eyequeueZym0tiC:  see if this works better: SNDCRD = $( grep hw.0.0 /etc/asound.conf )10:55
valtariccan any one tell me if Cedega is a good program from trying t orun window based games?10:55
Ang3lFir3eyequeue you got any ideas?10:55
CrutonmanI got a question about network interfaces and the likes on startup. No matter how many times I try and disabled eth0, it always tries to configure it on startup, and since I'm using wireless, it always hangs my system for 3 minutes10:55
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eyequeueAng3lFir3:  well, what interface is it, for starters? (eth0?)10:56
CrutonmanIs there a different way I am suppose to do it besides the network administration panel in gnome?10:56
CrutonmanYes.10:56
Ang3lFir3eyequeue yeah eth0 smc2-1211TX10:56
eyequeueCrutonman:  make sure there is no "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces10:56
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eyequeueAng3lFir3:  ifconfig eth0 ... does that have an UP line, and also, does it give you an ip address?10:57
CrutonmanThere is no auto, but for some reason it is listed under primary10:57
Ang3lFir3eyequeue jas let me look10:57
CrutonmanWhen I'm using ndiswrapper, does the card get loaded before the network configuration process is started10:57
psychonateI'm using XFCE4, and I know that to install User Interface themes, I can unzip the theme to ~/.themes, but I don't know how to install metacity themes (window border themes). Unzipping these archives to ~/.themes does not work.10:57
Zym0tiCeyequeue, this is what i get by both of them: /home/zym0tic/test: line 21: SNDCRD: command not found10:58
ManicMichaelIs it possible to connect to the internet with a win-modem? I tried already with suse-linux distribution, didnt work - so I gave up working with linux ... got somebody10:58
psychonateDoes anyone know where I need to put these?10:58
eyequeueCrutonman:  ah, i've got no knowledge of ndiswrapper myself, sorry10:58
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CrutonmanWell, I can keep trying this I guess10:58
enveltest10:58
aukmanicmicheal: soem modems will not work with linux. few, though10:58
CrutonmanWould moving it from primary mess anything up?10:58
Ang3lFir3eyequeue yes to the Up line "Running broadcast.... " and the ip is a local 192.168.1.* ip10:58
aukmanicmicheal: check the modem provider for info10:59
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eyequeueAng3lFir3:  next, can you ping something else on the lan, some other 192.168.110:59
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Computer__Guruworked like a charm :)11:00
Ang3lFir3eyequeue yes i can and i can ping to the outside too (i.e. google.com)11:00
Computer__Guruty nalioths_dog11:00
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  next, try ping 82.211.81.13011:00
paul__what did guru11:00
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  you can hit "google.com"??  ie, it resolves the dns?11:00
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Computer__Guruhis instructions for getting and installing the latest jre11:00
paul__ok11:00
Crutonmanbrb11:01
Computer__Gurunow I suppose I should install limewire11:01
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funkyhi11:01
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  that's a huge step forward :)11:01
paul__no newsgroups?11:01
funkywhy isnt restricted modules for 2.6.12 in repositories ??11:01
eyequeuefunky:  only .10 has restricted support so far11:01
Ang3lFir3eyequeue yes i can ping it as well11:01
funkyeyequeue: i see11:01
Ang3lFir3sorry for slowness kvm is evil11:01
paul__i dont care for p2p i use newsgroups11:02
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ManicMichael@auk: well, its a "build-in-modem"...but could it work with ubuntu? Is there a list of "supported hardware" like at linux?11:02
funkyeyequeue: do you know if there is any 3rd party repository which contains that package ?11:02
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  okay, if you can resolve outside dns, then you have most of the problems solved already, i would next susptect your gateway machine/nat/firewall11:02
MrMaDSeNis there a wiki on flash support?11:03
Ang3lFir3eyequeue linksys befsr4111:03
aukmanicmicheal: there is probably a list, but i've no idea where it might be11:03
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mjrManicMichael, see http://www.linmodems.org/11:03
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aukmjr: oh, yeah11:03
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  can you browser into it and see if your ip is configures to get out?11:03
Ang3lFir3eyequeue im leaning twoards ipv6 issues which i would be clueless to solve11:03
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Ang3lFir3eyequeue yeah jas11:04
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  ugh, i'm fairly useless on ipv6 too, sorry11:04
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ManicMichaelGreat! Thank you...because Id really like to change...but dont want to buy a new modem (for an old machine..).;-)11:04
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eyequeueAng3lFir3:  next, try 'telnet  82.211.81.130 80'11:04
Ang3lFir3yes the machine has an ip lease11:04
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harris|uI just installed the 32 bit version of ubuntu, I added the repositories -> apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade -- Is there anything else I need to do to make sure all of my aps are up-to-date?11:05
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uscfanhow do you configure dhcp in ubuntu11:05
uscfana friend of mine is on the phone11:05
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  that's http://www.ubuntu.com btw :)11:05
pythonTest Message <-ignore this folks11:05
harris|uuscfan, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installdhcpserver11:05
uscfanno no11:05
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uscfandhcp client config11:05
eyequeueuscfan:  client or server?11:05
nalioths_dogharris|u: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines11:05
uscfanis there a gui?11:05
nalioths_dogMrMaDSeN: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:06
Ang3lFir3eyequeue lol i figured as much and no i can't telnet :(11:06
naliothharris|u: your system will keep itself up-to-date11:06
Walkmanharris|u, It checks peridically11:06
harris|uthanks11:06
harris|uand sorry ;o11:06
eyequeueuscfan:   /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and related files11:06
Ang3lFir3eyequeue its almost like i can't get past the providers nameservers11:06
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naliothharris|u: in your top right corner, you'll see a 'attention' symbol when it needs your input11:06
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eyequeueuscfan:  there may be a gui, i just know cli myself11:07
uscfaneyequeue, so he would edit the files and then i am asusming restart dhcp with what command11:07
harris|unalioth, okay - but was I okay doing those commands? I didn't 'screw anything up' did I?11:07
envelis there a gui for wvdial or similar?11:07
amittp_Hi, we dont get "jar" directly after seting sun-java. How do i use "jar xvf somefile" in ubuntu?11:07
CrutonmanAlright, that sped up configure network interfaces signifigantly although it is still not perfect, I have a question about wireless configuration in there though, is it possible to specify different hotspots?11:07
eyequeueuscfan:  if "eth0" is the interface, then "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" should do it11:07
uscfanthanks eyequeue11:08
Ang3lFir3eyequeue odd side note the machine i am currently using does not have a dhcp lease in the clients table in the router lol11:08
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eyequeueuscfan:  np11:08
naliothharris|u: did you get any errors?11:08
harris|unalioth, no11:08
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  lol11:08
naliothharris|u: then you're good11:08
aarcaneheLLo, I figgured out how to make networking work locally for one wireless LAN, or to make it work for any unencrypted wireless LAN, but I am currently unable to get networking working with..  well, what I feel I need to do (I may be wrong) is somehow save a list of Network Name and Keys for WEP, and for non-encrypted networks, just auto-detect them, so that I can automagically connect to any encrypted network I have a key for, o11:08
aarcaner I can just stick to my unencrypted network hopping when it suits me....  how do I go about setting this up ?11:08
harris|unalioth, thanks again11:08
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Walkmanharris|u: It's good also to include backports too (some tasty programs there)11:08
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  are you perhaps being routed *around* the router?11:08
Crutonmanaarcane11:09
aarcaneCrutonman11:09
CrutonmanBreezy should come with a program called "Network manager"11:09
harris|uWalkman, i followed ubuntuguide which did include some backports -- although I'm not quite sure what they are11:09
CrutonmanThat should take care of that, but I as well as you are stuck until that happens11:09
aarcaneCrutonman, what's that ?11:09
Ang3lFir3eyequeue nah just sometimes the lease from this winbox doesn't show up.....the ubuntu box does have a lease tho11:09
CrutonmanIts a program that does exactly what you want11:09
naliothharris|u: something to be left disabled til you need something from them11:09
CrutonmanBut it is not finished yet11:09
Walkmanharris|u: mirrormax works fine for me11:09
aarcaneCrutonman, aha...  well..  is it not working at all, or just not in ubuntu yet ?11:10
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Crutonmani can't figure out how to do it myself, but i have heard ifplugd can handle it11:10
CrutonmanI think its in beta atm11:10
Crutonmanrelease version .411:10
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amittp_does anyone know how to access jar utility in ubuntu?11:10
Crutonmanhttp://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/11:10
Ang3lFir3eyequeue why would ubuntu be utilizing ipv6 when most isp's aren't implementing ipv6 support yet11:11
CrutonmanTake a peak there aarcane11:11
CrutonmanAng3lfir3 because when they do ubuntu will already have it working11:11
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  what Crutonman said11:11
Ang3lFir3Crutonman kewl tell me how to turn it off so i can browse11:11
CrutonmanIt shouldn't have to be "turned off"11:11
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Ang3lFir3im currently blaming my issues on it11:12
roberhello11:12
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aarcanedamn, it's not in any of the repositories yet >,.,<11:12
roberi have a live CD ubuntu hoary11:12
eyequeueAng3lFir3:  there is something in the wiki or ubuntuforums about that, not sure where, but a search on ipv6 in each should pull it up11:12
MrMaDSeNnalioths_dog: thnx11:12
CrutonmanI checked there too aarcane ;P11:12
Ang3lFir3eyequeue kk11:12
CrutonmanWant me to try and build it from cvs ?11:13
roberbut the screensaver is active and now it ask me the password for the user: ubuntu11:13
Walkmanharris|u: Everytime I found something new on backports ...11:13
roberanyone know this password?11:13
Crutonmanwhich password11:13
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Crutonmanthe password to the universe is 4811:13
aarcaneokay, so my next question is...  autoconfigure for X didn't get my keyboard right..  It's a laptop, and has multimedia keys..  I need to make them work, how can I look up my keyboard model and make the bloody thing work ?11:13
HappyFoolrober: enter your login password11:13
eyequeuerober:  try hitting enter? try "ubuntu"?11:13
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Ang3lFir3Crutonman no its 4211:13
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eyequeueHappyFool:  he's on the livecd11:13
roberyes11:13
HappyFooleyequeue: oh11:14
CrutonmanThere goes my score :(11:14
roberbut say DENIED11:14
Crutonmanaarcane, you have a 9300?11:14
aarcaneCrutonman, 9300 ?11:14
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CrutonmanInspiron11:14
CrutonmanRegardless, are you running gnome or KDE?11:14
ivoksinspiron rocks11:14
roberHappyFool. which?11:14
harris|u'nother question: synaptic says irssi is installed, but where can I find it along with other applications?11:14
robereyequeue. yes i try11:14
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aarcaneToshiba Satellite M35X, and I'm using Gnome with the xfce4 window manager inserted11:15
HappyFoolrober: sorry, i didn't realize you were using the live cd11:15
Crutonmanok11:15
ivoksharris|u: irssi is command line app11:15
eyequeueharris|u:  you would just type "irssi" in a console (it should be in /usr/bin/irssi)11:15
HiddenWolfharris|u, you can't, it's a command line application, open up a terminal and type irssi11:15
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harris|uthanks again :)11:15
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roberCrutonman. 48? is the password?11:15
Crutonmango to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts11:15
CrutonmanTo what rober?11:16
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roberti user: ubuntu11:16
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CrutonmanThe best I can do you for is you can assign the keys by simply clicking on the action you want and pressing the key through that program aarcane11:16
roberCrutonman: the password to the universe is 4811:16
ivoksi think ubuntu will rule the world :)11:16
rober?11:16
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Servo888Hey curious - how is your modem support? Like ltmodem stuff11:16
eyequeuerober:  it was a joke, 42 is the anser to life the universe and everything, 48 is the password to the universe, heh11:16
CrutonmanIt was a joke from hitchikers guide, what do you want the password to11:16
dapimp53How come on the update program it shows that the latest version of Firefox is 1.0.2 but there is newer versions out11:17
aarcaneCrutonman, problem is that the keys currently do not generate anything in xev11:17
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eyequeueCrutonman:  the default "ubuntu" user on the livecd, his screensaver has locked him out11:17
CrutonmanMine don't either11:17
CrutonmanThe program should let you do it aarcane11:17
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Crutonmandid you try "ubuntu"11:17
tiglionabbithow's everybody doing?11:17
Crutonmanoh and btw (lol, just reboot)11:17
Chillouthi there can anyone recommend a good gnome GUI for WLAN?11:17
aarcaneCrutonman, I need to change my kbd model in my xorg.conf to make it work11:18
tiglionabbitChillout: I don't think there is one available for Hoary.  Breezy will have a good one by the time it is stable11:18
CrutonmanEven to get the keyboard shortcuts working? Well, I am unsure of how to do that11:18
vidzaarcane, I would say NetworkManager, but I'm not sure if it runs on ubuntu11:18
Crutonmanvidz, already mentioned that to him :P11:18
CrutonmanTrying to figure out how to install it myself11:18
eyequeuevidz:  "not yet"11:18
CrutonmanIt's supposedly suppose to come with "Breezy" the next ubuntu release11:19
tiglionabbito hi eyequeue, haven't seen you in a while11:19
shortcircuitmy ipod will not mount over usb, i get this error in dmesg "can't set config #1, error -71"11:19
aarcaneCrutonman, to get X to recognize the buttons as actual buttons..  that's why I need to get it working11:19
concept10Crutonman, I tried to install it yesterday11:19
eyequeuehey tiglionabbit11:19
concept10Chillout, you can use the network panel applet11:19
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Crutonmanaarcane, did you actually try just going to the keyboard shortcuts panel11:19
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CrutonmanConcept10, did it work?11:19
tiglionabbitsay eyequeue, have you seen the little wiki I wrote yesterday?11:19
tiglionabbit!newusers11:19
uboturumour has it, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers11:19
aarcaneCrutonman, I did11:19
aarcaneCrutonman, I tried the xfwm4 equivalent11:20
eyequeuetiglionabbit:  no, where?11:20
CrutonmanOk, because I never had to mess with xorg at all11:20
Crutonmantry the actual gnome application11:20
aarcaneCrutonman, I went into xev11:20
eyequeuetiglionabbit:  ah, let me chck it11:20
tiglionabbiteyequeue: I just made ubotu spit it out11:20
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concept10Crutonman, no, I tried to install with alien and also compiling from source, no success11:20
Crutonmanit should be able to work without that configuration11:20
aarcaneCrutonman, I tried everything, the keys are essentially dead until I can configure X to know what the fuck they are11:20
naliothtiglionabbit: i imagine ubotu spits every time he sees you coming! lol11:20
jasoncohenhey guys- if anyone asks about audio/video apss or multimedia codecs i wrote up a wiki page that has screenshots/descriptions of amarok, rhythmbox, streamtuner, beep media player, xine-ui, totem and will have vlc. in addition i added a section on adding universe, multiverse, and hoary-extras with some explanation. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia11:20
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tiglionabbitjasoncohen: I added a link to the forum post on streamtuner to yours, if you don't mind11:21
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shortcircuitmy ipod will not mount over usb, i get this error in dmesg "can't set config #1, error -71"11:21
jasoncohentiglionabbit, thanks, that was a good idea11:21
jasoncohenhere's the link for adding repositories - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories11:21
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: oo you added a screenshot of it!  cool11:21
dapimp53Can someone help me use ndiswrapper.. I installed the ndiswrapper-util. Is there anything else I need to do because I can't seem to get it to work. I am trying to install the driver for my wireless nic card11:22
jasoncohentiglionabbit, yup- did that this morning11:22
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Crutonmandapimp53: Is it broadcom based?11:22
mouriljoin #UBUNTU-PT11:22
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tatiana`well three questions heh but maybe i can find the answer to one gnomes pages.11:23
dapimp53Crutonman: I honestly don't know. Its a Atheros AR5004G11:23
concept10jasoncohen, good job on the page11:23
Crutonmanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto Try following that page11:23
jasoncohenconcept10, thanks11:23
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eyequeuetiglionabbit:  sweet.  nice work.  thanks for doing it11:23
jasoncohenconcept10, if you think i should add any programs or codecs, just ask11:24
Crutonman(Do the part about compling 1.1 with the 1.2 files11:24
jasoncohenthat's true for everyone- you can email me or /msg me11:24
jasoncohencontact info here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JasonCohen?action=show11:24
tatiana`anyone know how to force gnome to "remember" where i keep windows tween sessions & whether they are visible on the desktops or not (all/some/1)11:24
jasoncoheneyequeue, you're quite welcome11:24
concept10jasoncohen, you should add links to the homepages and maybe xmms11:25
eyequeuetatiana`:  system >> logout >> save current setup, perhaps?11:25
jasoncohenconcept10, ok, why xmms? isn't it just a gtk1 version of beep media player?11:25
tatiana`tried that, it doesn't seem to work11:25
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concept10jasoncohen, no - BMP is a GTK2 version of XMMS - XMMS2 will be released shortly11:25
tatiana`like i keep xchat on al desktops but everytime i load it i have to tell it to put them there again.  if i logout it loses that info.11:26
tatiana`also save session doesn't affect firefox11:26
D1concept10, when will xmms be released?11:26
jasoncohenconcept10, yeah, sorry- that's what i meant. XMMS is quite a bit older than BMP.11:26
dapimp53Crutonman: I installed it in the add/remove programs. Does that work ok or no?11:26
eyequeuetatiana`:  hmm, no idea, sorry11:26
jasoncohenconcept10, will XMMS2 be in breezy?11:26
tatiana`k11:26
CrutonmanIt might, but that guide walks you through compling a newer version of Ndiswrapper, which is not included in the repositories11:26
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CrutonmanThis helps with certain cards, and some cards only work with the newer versions (Like mine)11:27
concept10jasoncohen, dont know about when or if it will be in breezy, but I was just clarifying.11:27
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olafuraEvery audio I play with alsa repeats for ever, does anyone know what could be the problem11:27
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concept10jasoncohen, good job none the less11:27
jasoncohenthanks11:28
dapimp53How do I get the Synaptic Package Manager to update to the newest packages11:28
tatiana`ok next one, i set the permissions on this program, mousepad, so i'm the owner but it won't open for me, it segfaults... yet root can open & run it?11:28
naliothdapimp53: left to itself, you always have the latest pkgs11:28
tatiana`it got installed when i installed the rox filer.11:28
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ompauldapimp53, it carries the latest packages for your version, are you using hoary?11:29
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jamesDOODI just installed Warty Warthog on a desktop computer and the graphical interface wont load. What can I do?11:31
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Kamzihi11:32
gotonpoCan someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right/left instead of underneath? i can get it to happen in the file browser, but not on the desktop...11:32
CrutonmanjamesDOOD: You could try checking the xorg conf by typing vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:32
CrutonmanMaybe something is arry there?11:32
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qt2err..11:32
jamesDOODOk. I know very little about Linux11:32
qt2what's the password to the cups web interface? :o11:32
jamesDOODI've used the text editor in Solaris 9 occasionally11:33
jamesDOODI know vi is a text editor11:33
jamesDOODwhat should I look for in the file?11:33
CrutonmanNo clue, what video card are you usinhg11:33
jamesDOODnvidia 6600 with some letters after it11:33
Kamzicould sum1 help me install unbuntu, it mucks xp everytime i try 2 install it11:33
jamesDOODgeforce11:33
tatiana`jamesDOOD you can open it with gedit too .. just open a root term type gedit /blah/file &11:33
CrutonmanHe can't boot into the gui...11:34
jamesDOODok11:34
CrutonmanMeaning he cant get at gedit11:34
danielsLinuxJones: pong11:34
Kamzii thought it was grub but i didnt install grub and i had the same problem11:34
Crutonmanas gnome doesnt open11:34
tatiana`ah ok nm11:34
tatiana`nano then ?11:34
tatiana`heh its simpler than vi lol11:34
jamesDOODIt says "it has failed to load, would you like to see the output on screen?"11:34
tatiana`just use Ctrl-(letter) to use its menus.11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYomg someone put a pic of tux on a website gettin shot in the head >.<11:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyou bastards >.<11:35
jamesDOODAnd having looked through it, the 'output' doesn't even show any error messages11:35
NeoGeo64ive installed realplayer and then moved the folder it was installed to.  how do i get mozilla firefox to play realplayer files11:35
jamesDOODCrutonman <-- what do you recommend I do after opening xorg.conf?11:36
jasoncohenconcept10, links added for all the programs11:36
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CrutonmanWell, I was going to say if you a weird graphics card check if ia driver was chosen11:36
concept10jasoncohen, youre a good guy11:37
Crutonmanbut you have a geforce11:37
Crutonmanas do I11:37
Crutonmanand that installs the right driver by default11:37
jasoncohenthanks11:37
jamesDOODAnd it worked no problems on the first run?11:37
svu_is it just me or mplayer packages for ppc do not contain /usr/bin/mplayer? only gmplayer - which is broken symlink to mplayer11:37
kerondoesn11:37
CrutonmanYea11:37
CrutonmanI put the cd in press entered a lot and half an hour later I started to install ndiswrapper11:37
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jamesDOODhmmm. you know, before I get the login prompt, the screen goes to black twice and then it gives the error11:38
naliothsvu_: thats funny, i had to compile my mplayer to GET gmplayer11:38
Kyralhello Ubuntu Peoples :D11:38
CrutonmanI was suprised because debian shit a brick trying to find drivers for my geforce 680011:38
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CrutonmanYea11:38
Crutonmanthat happened on debian for me11:38
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CrutonmanWhen it couldn't find the drivers11:38
Crutonmanwhats the exact card you have11:38
jasoncohenconcept10, do you think it would be a good idea to add a gtk version of mozilla-mplayer to backports? i rebuilt the debian mozilla-mplayer deb with gtk2 support and i think it would be a lot nicer for new users- play/pause/stop/fullscreen buttons and a way to download the stream11:38
biovoresomeone say ut2k4 :-)11:38
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CrutonmanActually, it shouldnt matter, its nvidia and they use the same one11:38
Kyralbiovore, I did :D11:39
CrutonmanGrab the installer off nvidia.com11:39
jamesDOODBut could the problem be that I'm using an older version of Ubuntu11:39
KyralI got it while I was away :D11:39
CrutonmanWhat version are you using11:39
biovore<-- plays UT2k4 linux ladder play11:39
jamesDOOD(warty warthog)11:39
Kyralyou know if I can make it install onto /home?11:39
jamesDOOD4.1011:39
CrutonmanIt worked fine or warty for me11:39
mdrMDR11:39
biovoreyup11:39
Crutonman*on11:39
mdrbande denculer11:39
Crutonmanbut you could try getting hoary11:39
bluefoxicyhmm openoffice is still busted as fuck11:39
CrutonmanNo reason not to11:39
Kyralgood, thats my big partition11:39
CrutonmanPlus it is only one cd11:39
jamesDOODJa. But that will take weeks11:39
mdrCrutonman 65-96-216-247 ip?11:39
CrutonmanWhat mdr?11:39
qt2argh..11:40
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mdrnon rien11:40
jamesDOODI live in Saudi Arabia11:40
mdroublieconnard :)11:40
Crutonmanwhat mdr?11:40
mdrrien11:40
jamesDOODit sucks getting sent stuff11:40
jamesDOODit never arrives11:40
ptdrjamesDOOD 85.194.83.78 <= ip11:40
Crutonmanspeak english11:40
qt2anyone have any idea how to get an hp psc scanner/printer combo to work in ubuntu...?11:40
mdri'am french :)11:40
mdrptdr11:40
mdrmdr11:40
ptdrxdr11:40
biovoreqt2: yes, I got one :-)11:40
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biovorehpoj11:40
naliothmdr: en #ubuntu-fr, si'l vous plait11:40
CrutonmanWhy are you resolving our ips?11:40
ptdrponingru 471-101-70-231 <= ip11:41
mdrnalioth je veu ameliorer mon anglais11:41
jamesDOOD??? whats this guy doing11:41
biovoreso... who cares...11:41
NeoGeo64how do i get mozilla firefox to play realplayer files11:41
zukalkmdr, ben fais le srieusement11:41
poningruwhat happend?11:41
Kyral!info realplayer11:41
mdrzukalk erf11:41
uboturealplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB11:41
mdrt francais toi aussi11:41
ptdrNeoGeo64 068-209-123-016 <= ip11:41
tiglionabbit!mozilla-mplayer11:41
ubotutiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?11:41
zukalkmdr, non11:41
Kyralthat I think :D11:41
mdrmdr ptdr11:41
tiglionabbit!info mozilla-mplayer11:41
ptdrmdr ?11:41
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ubotumozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 300 kB11:41
mdrzukalk tu pige le francais alord?11:41
zukalkmdr ouais11:41
ptdrxdr11:41
mdrerf11:42
action09arf11:42
ptdrtrop coooool11:42
mdrnul :'(11:42
ptdrxdr11:42
mdrmdr11:42
tiglionabbit#ubuntu-fr11:42
KyralOh, anyone know how to unmount my /home for a forced fsck? It is 12% non-contigous11:42
NeoGeo64I have RealPlayer installed but firefox won't play anything embedded11:42
Kamziexit11:42
action09Kyral umount11:42
svu_nalioth, really funny. But I really cannot find any package which would contains /usr/bin/mplayer :(((11:42
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: to play realplayer in firefox, you need mplayer, mozilla-mplayer, and w32cdoces11:42
Kyraltried it11:42
Kyralits busy :P11:43
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tiglionabbit!info mplayer-38611:43
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB11:43
dapimp53Crutonman: I got it all installed but I don't see the device in my network configuration11:43
dapimp53do I need to reboot first?11:43
NeoGeo64i have all three of those11:43
tiglionabbitthere are different mplayers for different builds.  They're in multiverse11:43
mdr!pv yann211:43
ubotumdr: I give up, what is it?11:43
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Crutonmandapimp53: Did you try modprobe ndiswrapper11:43
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K`MiCrutonman ta mre et bonnne ???? mdr11:44
mdrmdrrr11:44
ManeitenHi. How can I check which version of libc6 I've got installed (using the console)11:44
Crutonmani'm sorry fellows, I don't speak french11:44
CrutonmanI can try and help if you ask in english11:44
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HappyFoolManeiten: apt-cache show libc611:44
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NeoGeo64tiglionabbit, I have all three of those you mentioned.11:44
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HappyFoolbother11:44
HappyFoolno ops around?11:44
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dapimp53Crutonman: it returns nothing... is that good or bad?11:44
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: will your mplayer play realplayer stuff on its own?  (outside firefox)11:45
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Crutonmanno, its good11:45
Crutonmanwhat does Iwconfig tell you11:45
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K`Mimdr11:45
Hentaistop spamming11:45
K`MiHentai spamming ?11:45
HappyFoolManeiten: slightly better might be 'apt-cache show libc6|grep Version'11:45
K`Mixdr11:45
mdrK`Mi11:45
mdrMDRRRRRRRRRRRRR11:45
K`Mimdr ta vu ?11:45
mdrrevien11:45
K`Mispamming11:45
K`Mimdr11:45
mdrwai11:45
mdrMDRRRR11:45
K`Miou sa mdr ?11:45
pgidzk'mi 201211:45
mdrou t ban11:45
CrutonmanReally, we need more ops here11:45
K`Mikellke chan ?11:46
dapimp53Crutonman: It doesnt have the new extension in there?11:46
K`Mimdr11:46
KyralSometimes I hate Prelink11:46
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dapimp53do I need to reboot after adding it11:46
cybersystemKyral: dont do that again11:46
ompaulto ignore that muppet /ignore *@*.ipt.aol.com11:46
Kyraleh?11:46
msieradzkican i use upgrade/update from hoary to breezy?11:46
cybersystemKyral: didnt mean you sorry :)11:46
cybersystemK`Mi: dont do that again11:46
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HappyFoolompaul: and many others from aol ? ;)11:46
K`Mit amayre !!!!!11:46
Enamorameyo11:46
KyralDAMN THE AUTOCOMPLETE!! lO11:46
msieradzkiis it more stable than about 2 months ago?11:46
naliothsvu_: if you can see me, recompiling mplayer is a good idea anyway on the ppc (enable more stuff that way)11:46
NeoGeo64I can't even get realplayer to run and i just installed it from synaptic11:46
tiglionabbit#ubuntu-fr for french11:46
Enamoramevive la france11:47
Enamoramelol11:47
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: you should be able to play realplayer stuff in mplayer, even streaming things11:47
msieradzkihehe11:47
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NeoGeo64well i can't.11:47
msieradzkiHALO: is this topic -> don't use breezy yet is still up to date?11:47
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Crutonmandapimp  you shouldnt have to, what does ndiswrapper -l say?11:47
ompaulactually it was more like /ignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com all11:47
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bluefoxicyI should submit the paper I'm writing as my college thesis for my CS AA11:48
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: you sure you have w32codecs ?  um sorry, I don't know why you wouldn't be able to11:48
bluefoxicyIt'll be like fedex11:48
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bluefoxicy"You fail.  That's all impossible."11:48
Enamoramewhy i dont not voice here ?11:48
dizzienot a cs lamerchannel11:48
svu_nalioth, it seems I just have no choice but go that way:)11:48
ompaulHappyFool, well it is really nothing to be talking about :)11:48
HappyFoolEnamorame: we can see you.. ?11:48
naliothEnamorame: not necessary11:48
dapimp53net5211 driver present, hardware installed11:48
NeoGeo64I have w32 codecs because I'm watching video on ebaumsworld right now in firefox...11:48
dizzieno need for ops or voice11:48
qt2biovore, erm... are you using the hplip driver?11:48
Crutonmanok, try restarting then11:48
CrutonmanYou may get lucky11:48
dapimp53Ok brb11:48
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: what format is the vidio?  wmp ?11:48
CrutonmanIf it hangs at configuring network interfaces11:48
Enamoramei not speak english lol11:48
Crutonmancrap11:49
HappyFoolmsieradzki: breezy is stil unstable11:49
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CrutonmanIts going to hang there and he will get stucked11:49
Crutonman:X11:49
HappyFoolmsieradzki: use it at your own risk11:49
naliothsvu_: when you do, do a ./configure --help and see all the delicious options (you may end up installing a few more a/v things b4 you compile mplayer)11:49
Enamoramei dont know that say :s11:49
K`MiEnamorame vire le +i11:49
K`Mitrou du q11:49
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msieradzkiyeah i know that but how much unstable it is, 2 months ago i couldn't use terminal11:49
msieradzkithen i couldn't use cut-paste11:49
NeoGeo64its wmv11:49
K`MiEnamorame mdrrrr vir le +i11:49
biovorefoomatic-db-hpijs11:49
K`Mi:x11:49
msieradzkithen x-server hanged11:49
msieradzkiand i backed to breezy11:49
HappyFoolmsieradzki: i don't know. it's still experimental *shrug*11:50
tiglionabbithey guys, NeoGeo64 says he has mplayer, mozilla-mplayer, and w32codecs, but can't play realplayer stuff in mplayer.  Anyone know how that could be?11:50
msieradzkii have slow computer so faster gnome-terminal is really important for me (it's in breezy)11:50
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HappyFoolmsieradzki: tried xterm?11:50
msieradzkiit sux ;)11:51
tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: run apps -> sound&video -> MPlayer, and open a realplayer thing in that11:51
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msieradzkii can't cut copy n paste from it to gnome apps11:51
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msieradzkihehe11:51
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HappyFoolmsieradzki: you can, using middle-button11:51
tiglionabbitugh.  Today is not a good day for #ubuntu11:51
msieradzkisoooo cool11:51
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msieradzkii don't have tabs in xterm11:51
msieradzkithis really sux11:51
HappyFoolmsieradzki: that's what screen is for11:51
tiglionabbitmsieradzki: control-shift-T ?11:51
msieradzkii got used to that11:51
HappyFooli'm not a big tabs-in-terminals fan myself11:52
NeoGeo64yeah but i want to be able to stream realplayer files in firefox and be able to click on realplayer file links in firefox and have them open in mplayer11:52
dizziepowa, let me guess your IQ ... its either 5 or 10 ... help me out here...11:52
powamange sa sale pd !!!11:52
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tiglionabbitNeoGeo64: okay, if you can play them in mplayer, you just need to configure firefox to know that, in the plugin settings11:52
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dizzie3 then :)11:52
tiglionabbitgod damnit, stupid AOLers11:52
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tiglionabbitwhat is their problem?11:52
tiglionabbitwhere's our admins...11:53
msieradzkitiglionabbit: i can use ctrl-shift-t in xterm for creating tabs???11:53
dizzietiglionabbit, cant give you a straight answer :/11:53
ompaultiglionabbit,  /ignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com all11:53
HentaiArrtez votre Spamming11:53
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ManeitenHi.. I installed libc6 from a .deb file, from the debian resperitory. That was obviousley not the smartes11:53
tiglionabbitmsieradzki: well you can in gnome-terminal11:53
MrMaDSeNdamn... need my install disc... then I only have a broken one with lots of scratches... :(((11:53
Maneitensmartest move ever.. so how can I install the ubuntu version again?11:53
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msieradzkii know that11:53
K`Mi[23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )11:54
K`Mi[23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )11:54
K`Mi[23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )11:54
K`Mi[23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )11:54
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HappyFoolManeiten: oh dear11:54
msieradzkii'm talking about xterm11:54
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dapimp53Crutonman: I rebooted and i dont see anything new in network control panel11:54
msieradzkignome-term... is good but slow in hoary11:54
tiglionabbitmsieradzki: you can dpkg --remove libc611:54
ManeitenHappyFool: Indeed.. wasn't acctuallyt me. A friend of mine. I'm trying to fix it for him via SSH ;)11:54
msieradzki???11:54
dizzieI like konsole, it has tabs :D11:54
msieradzkiWHAT?11:54
tiglionabbitoops, that was for Maneiten11:54
msieradzkii use gnome not kde :D11:54
heapifymanhello11:54
msieradzkiok :)11:54
Maneitentiglionabbit: won't that fuck up everything depening on libc6 (as in alot)?11:54
dizziekan apt-get konsole :)11:55
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tiglionabbit=[  I can't respond to everyone at the same time, I'm sorry11:55
dizzieaterm aint that bad either11:55
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CrutonmanI've seen your problem before, But I don't know if a solutions been posted11:55
msieradzkinah i like gnome-terminal and i won't use anything else :D11:55
dapimp53grr11:55
levanderThere is any way to load a samba share on demand? Rather than having to explicitly mount it every time I reboot my XP box?11:55
dapimp53I really want this to work11:55
msieradzkiso i started getting breezy to my desktop11:55
msieradzki30 mins ago11:55
fatfreeporkhow do i install a theme?11:55
Maneitentiglionabbit: What if I get the .deb from ubuntu and install it using dpkg -i? :)11:55
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HappyFoolManeiten: you could *maybe* point apt at the ubuntu repos, and try a dist-upgrade, but i don't know if that'll actually work11:55
dapimp53I cant get my wireless connection to work nor my touch pad mouse11:56
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fatfreeporkhow do i install a theme?11:56
msieradzkisudo apt-get install theme? :D11:56
tiglionabbitManeiten: Well I know there's a way to get apt-get or synaptic to install the proper version of it, over whatever you put on, and if something breaks dependencies it uninstalls all the things that need it11:56
dizziesomeone seen lilo as in ircop and not the bootloader?11:56
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synstarwhy aint these spammer getting banned?11:56
dizziethis morons annoys me11:56
HappyFoolsynstar: no ops here...11:56
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: use system -> preferences -> theme11:56
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fatfreeporkokay thanks11:56
HappyFoolunfortunately you'll have to /ignore him11:56
ompaulsynstar, it is now11:56
aarcanehow do I install the headers for wireless-tools ?11:56
Maneitentiglionabbit: Do you know how? :)11:56
KyralSONUVA11:57
Razor-XUTC==GMT right+11:57
dizzie* [f~lilo]  is away (Coming and going. Will be on a bit later.)11:57
dizzieBah :/11:57
Razor-X*?11:57
Kyralthe damn Installer won't work11:57
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HappyFoolRazor-X: i think so, yes11:57
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dizzieKyral what installer?11:57
MrMaDSeNklaphatte til spammere11:57
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Razor-Xwhat!11:57
Kyralbiovore, you said you installed UT2k4 right?11:57
MrMaDSeNsorry11:57
Razor-XI can't wake up at 6 AM!!!11:57
dizzieMrMaDSeN, Er du sikker? =)11:57
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MrMaDSeNdizzie: hehe.. ja absolut da :)11:57
tiglionabbitdaniels: !!! You have admin, WAKE UP11:58
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fatfreeporkdo i have to extact the theme to install it?11:58
ompauland when they are good little boys and girls or get them selves k-lined then  /unignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com11:58
heapifymanhm, has anyone any news about www.ubuntuusers.de ? i can't get onto that site. always says "connection refused..."11:58
heapifymanis the server down?11:58
crimsuntiglionabbit: what's the issue?11:58
HappyFool*fanfare* the cavalry arrives11:58
dizzieMrMaDSeN, set brn p 5 opfre sig mere voksent end denne idiot11:58
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HappyFoolcrimsun: some idiot spamming11:58
aarcanethere's no wireless-tools-dev or wireless-tools-src package, how do I get the headers for wireless-tools ?11:59
MrMaDSeNdizzie: enig11:59
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: you should be able to install from the compressed archive.  And it will only work if the theme is designed for the WM you are using (gnome)11:59
ompaulcrimsun, they are gone :)11:59
MrMaDSeNban the shit out of them....11:59
crimsunok11:59
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HappyFoolcrimsun: K`Mi (pasbien@ACCE45F2.ipt.aol.com)   if that helps11:59
Razor-Xcrimsun: are you on the Ubuntu member council?11:59
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: to get gnome themes, look at http://gnome-look.org11:59
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fatfreeporki downloaded platik11:59
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biovoreI see we set mode J on here.. smart move..11:59
fatfreeporkplastik11:59
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fumbalahis there anyway to ignore a md5sum mismatch11:59
Razor-Xfatfreepork: do you like CLI andor use AIM?11:59
crimsunRazor-X: I'm a member and a MOTU11:59
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fumbalahI cant install gaim or firefox because apt is giving that error on a package11:59
biovorewhat error is that?11:59
fatfreeporkRazor-X: aim11:59
Razor-Xcrimsun: the next meeting is at 17:00 UTC... 6 AM here -_-11:59
fumbalahmd5 sum mismatch12:00

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