[12:00] <jaco^> Epix u can try Beast
[12:00] <nalioths_dog> laas: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[12:00] <jaco^> i think
[12:00] <dbernar1> mount mac partitions? that works?
[12:01] <nalioth> dbernar1: yes it does
[12:01] <nalioth> dbernar1: i do it all the time
[12:01] <phenomeno> oke ray_  tuxracer goes smootly thank you very much
[12:01] <dbernar1> wow, nice. I never had any luck.
[12:01] <dbernar1> I thought it should work, no reason not to, really.
[12:01] <ray_> phenomeno, no prob
[12:01] <nalioth> dbernar1: so get the script, and thank seveas
[12:02] <phenomeno> if you use wine you just type wine application.Exe?
[12:02] <nalioth> phenomeno: yes
[12:02] <jaco^> what about breezy?
[12:02] <jaco^> works?
[12:03] <jaco^> can i switch?
[12:03] <medgno> read the topic.
[12:03] <phenomeno> oke thanx nalioth
[12:03] <copap|ikser> http://nopaste.php-q.net/146107 <- what shall I do now?
[12:03] <jaco^> ok ok, but i want use to help in developing
[12:03] <dbernar1> thank you seveas, then, I guess:P
[12:04] <jaco^> i don't need a stable system
[12:04] <medgno> nevermind then
[12:04] <nalioth> jaco^: then breezy is for you (unstable and broken)
[12:04] <dbernar1> many things will break, be prepared to work on it, and hit some walls.
[12:04] <medgno> when I last tried it (maybe a month ago) they were in the middle of the c++ transition. it was bad
[12:04] <Epix> jaco^, what is Beast
[12:05] <jaco^> Epix an audio software with a sintthesizer
[12:06] <thr1ce> how many distroboards are there?
[12:06] <thr1ce> distrowatch boards*
[12:06] <Epix> what about RoseGarden, whats that?
[12:08] <jaco^> Epix a midi sequencer
[12:08] <Strife> has anyone in here used blosxom much before?
[12:09] <Belutz> jaco^: do you use KDE / gnome?
[12:09] <jaco^> gnome
[12:10] <Belutz> jaco^: which one is better in your opinion?
[12:10] <jaco^> i dunno
[12:10] <jaco^> ah
[12:10] <jaco^> kde vs gnome?
[12:10] <Belutz> yup
[12:10] <jaco^> i like gnome but i can't say that it's the bettere
[12:10] <Proteque> I prefer gnome if I had to choce betwen those two :)
[12:11] <thr1ce> gnome is easier to use, but kde updates more and, in my opinion, developed much quicker
[12:11] <medgno> I prefer gnome, but would prefer KDE if KMail could do imap filtering
[12:11] <thr1ce> but gnome is also alot bigger
[12:11] <Proteque> Belutz: you really should test different things and find your favorite.
[12:11] <thr1ce> and a PAIN to compile
[12:11] <nalioth> you guys! twin is the best dm! lol
[12:11] <Belutz> ok...
[12:11] <thr1ce> CDE on the other hand... :)
[12:11] <Belutz> twin?
[12:11] <nalioth> !info twin
[12:11] <ubotu> twin: (a Text mode WINdow environment), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 672 kB
[12:11] <Belutz> can i run KDE application on gnome?
[12:11] <jaco^> mmm i like synaptic and in my opinion ksynaptic is still not so good like synaptic
[12:12] <Proteque> yes
[12:12] <medgno> yes
[12:12] <laumas> how can l configure a smartlink modem with ubuntu 5.04
[12:12] <thr1ce> Belutz, if you've got the libs, sure
[12:12] <Belutz> so i could use Umbrello under gnome...?
[12:12] <medgno> yep
[12:12] <ray_> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[12:12] <medgno> or konqueror, or amarok, or...
[12:12] <ray_> any ideas?
[12:12] <Belutz> that's cool
[12:13] <ray_> anyone use kbuntu
[12:13] <dougsk> is their a boss keybinding for gnome? like minimize pr0n video open email client or something like that?
[12:13] <thr1ce> man, i shoulda listened to the topic...my "breezy" was baaaad
[12:13] <apokryphos> ray_: many; more in #kubuntu
[12:13] <medgno> ray_, I switch back and forth
[12:13] <ray_> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[12:13] <ray_>  any ideas?
[12:14] <nalioth> ray_: install xml parser
[12:14] <ray_> nalioth, how through apt? what is the command
[12:14] <medgno> ray_, I'm seeing a libxml-parse-perl package
[12:15] <nalioth> ray_: use synaptic and search for it
[12:15] <thr1ce> apt-cache search parser ?
[12:15] <ray_> medgno, oh thanks
[12:15] <dougsk> well ctrl-alt-d has the minimize part down, prolly good enough, thanks
[12:17] <phenomeno> oke i have another question
[12:17] <ray_> every thing i try to apt i get md5sum errors....im losing my mind
[12:17] <phenomeno> how do you open a gz file?
[12:17] <dougsk> ray_ switch from us to ca in sources list
[12:17] <thr1ce> when I tried to update to breezy I got md5 errors
[12:17] <memin> Hello
[12:17] <youth> I got a .gz open with winzip but that's when I was on windows, I ahven't tried it here.
[12:17] <dougsk> us mirror is puking
[12:17] <ray_> dougsk, what do i do in the apt list?
[12:17] <thr1ce> anyone got breezy running at the moment?
[12:17] <[koji] > phenomeno: file-roller
[12:18] <youth> Anyone know what decoders I need to play .mp3's, .avi's, and .mov's?
[12:18] <youth> and where to find them?
[12:18] <dougsk> ray_, just change your sources.list to ca aka canada from us aka USA
[12:18] <thr1ce> mp3 is gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:18] <jaco^> phenomeno tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[12:18] <jaco^> or
[12:18] <jaco^> gzip -d file.gz
[12:18] <nalioths_dog> youth: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:19] <jaco^> tar -zjvf file.tar.bz2
[12:19] <youth> Heey! you're here again you're always my saviour lol
[12:19] <Epix> I have a evolution USB keyboard... how do i make it work with ubuntu?
[12:19] <phenomeno> achrive type isn't supported ( i translated it from dutch)
[12:19] <thr1ce> hm...apt can't find a few packages atm...do you think it's mirror issues?
[12:19] <thr1ce> like, packs I knwo should be there
[12:19] <thr1ce> apt-cache search mplayer returns nothing :(
[12:19] <jaco^> phenomeno which is the file name?
[12:19] <apokryphos> thr1ce: it's in Universe
[12:20] <apokryphos> !restrictedformats
[12:20] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs
[12:20] <thr1ce> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[12:20] <kjon> What do I have to edit in hdparm.conf to enable dma on my hd's (udma6) and dvdrw (udma2)?
[12:20] <Reticent> so after downloading the hoary hedghog ISO, do i just burn a bit for bit copy of it on a CD, treat it like a data CD, or do i need to extract some files first in order to install the OS?
[12:20] <apokryphos> thr1ce: check that link
[12:20] <thr1ce> apokryphos, aah, i didn't knwo that; thanks!
[12:20] <ray_> dougsk, thanks it worked
[12:21] <phenomeno> jaco^,  => Cedega 4[1] .3.2 TGZ
[12:21] <jaco^> Reticent from nero File/Open file.iso and burn it
[12:21] <dougsk> ray_, awesome was just running into the same problem too
[12:21] <kjon> I need help with hdparm.conf... pleeeaseeee
[12:21] <jaco^> phenomeno from a shell tar -zxvf Cedega 4[1] .3.2 TGZ
[12:21] <Reticent> nero is free application?
[12:21] <nalioth> damn dog running off
[12:21] <jaco^> Reticent what burning sofware u have?
[12:21] <apokryphos> Anyone know who made ubotu?
[12:21] <nalioth> Reticent: no it is not
[12:21] <ccollins> does anyone know the lastest repositories.  I always receive the error W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb
[12:21] <nalioth> apokryphos: ubotu is a supybot i believe
[12:21] <Reticent> recordnow
[12:22] <dougsk> does sudo support redirection right say for instance sudo sed s/us/ca/g > sources.list?
[12:22] <nalioth> ccollins: the us repos are down
[12:22] <dougsk> I cant seem to make that work
[12:22] <nalioth> ccollins: watch the dog
[12:22] <jaco^> Reticent open the iso from recordnow and burn it
[12:22] <apokryphos> nalioth: would you know how to make him join other channels?
[12:22] <Reticent> tx
[12:22] <nalioths_dog> ccollins: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:22] <dougsk> oops there should be another sources.list in there
[12:22] <phenomeno> oke thanw jaco^
[12:22] <DanielC> Hello. I want to migrate from Warty to Hoary. So I'll sources.list, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Is there much of a risk that this will break the system? Are upgrades "safe" ?
[12:22] <nalioth> apokryphos: ubotu? i have no clue, i'm not his owner (who is not here atm)
[12:22] <apokryphos> DanielC: they're officially supported, yes.
[12:22] <kjon> I need to enable udma in my ide drives??? What do I have to edit in hdparm.conf?
[12:23] <DanielC> apokryphos: Ok, good. Thanks.  :-)
[12:23] <nalioth> DanielC: thats the best way to go
[12:23] <apokryphos> nalioth: who is?
[12:23] <nalioth> apokryphos: cafuego
[12:23] <apokryphos> thanks
[12:23] <DanielC> nalioth: Ok. Thanks. I'll cross my fingers :-) (and make a backup)
[12:23] <svu> what is the equivalent of 'runuser' in ubuntu?
[12:24] <nalioth> DanielC: i updateed in that manner and had 0 trouble
[12:24] <DanielC> nalioth: excellent :-D
[12:24] <Epix> ?
[12:24] <Epix> can i?
[12:24] <thr1ce> how cleanly does ubuntu upgrade from releases out of curiosity?
[12:24] <thr1ce> i'm used to running pre-releases
[12:25] <Epix> anyone use a USB keyboard?
[12:25] <memin> How can I switch from esd to polypaudio?
[12:25] <apokryphos> thr1ce: from official -> official, perfectly, in theory. It's supported. From official -> beta, it's not supported, but the majority of users will do it. I've never really had problems, though I'm reasonably new
[12:26] <PPC_Guy> hey all.. Looking through the wiki here on how to get my DVD drive up and running. But wanted to ask.. How difficult is it to get done?
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you kill and restart the desktop
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in terminal
[12:26] <thr1ce> apokryphos, just curious how much crap it'll leave behind, unnoticed :|
[12:26] <thr1ce> shutdown -r now as root
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to run groaches
[12:26] <thr1ce> or just reboot :)
[12:26] <nalioth> PPC_Guy: you on a ppc?
[12:26] <nalioths_dog> PPC_Guy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:27] <[koji] > Church: killall gnome-panel
[12:27] <apokryphos> thr1ce: that'll restart the whole computer, not just the desktop ;-)
[12:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's hiding beind the desktop
[12:27] <thr1ce> i thought desktop=computer
[12:27] <PPC_Guy> not right now.. But I'm having the same issue with both computers one celeron one ppc..
[12:27] <thr1ce> :|
[12:27] <PPC_Guy> cool thanks
[12:27] <apokryphos> thr1ce: it shouldn't really leave anything, in theory. Dist-upgrade should handle it all
[12:27] <thr1ce> /etc/init.d/gdm restart? :)
[12:27] <nalioth> PPC_Guy: things act differnt on the PPC then they do on x86, be warned
[12:27] <PPC_Guy> I've gathered as much already nalioth, but thanks for the heads up.. Nother question  here
[12:28] <PPC_Guy> nevermind, just found the answer
[12:28] <thr1ce> hehe
[12:31] <phenomeno> jaco^,  I did that tar command but is it installd then or is it just "unzipped"?
[12:31] <memin> How can I switch from esd to polypaudio?
[12:32] <jaco^> phenomeno it's unzipped
[12:32] <phenomeno> oke thanx
[12:32] <phenomeno> does somone got a howto for cedega?
[12:33] <flodine> is anyone got system wide colores for terminal
[12:34] <flodine> does anyone here use xdefaults
[12:35] <Razor-X> flodine: terminal wide colors?
[12:35] <flodine> yes
[12:35] <Razor-X> what's that?
[12:35] <flodine> Razor-X do you
[12:35] <ray_> when i start mplayer i get the following error New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[12:35] <thr1ce> 14 deps for mplayer?!  WTF!
[12:35] <Razor-X> flodine: I don't know what that is
[12:35] <thr1ce> that's rediculous
[12:35] <Razor-X> I use Eterm, and use a nice console geometry, and such
[12:35] <flodine> Razor-X you know what xdefaults is
[12:36] <Razor-X> never played with xterm
[12:36] <Proteque> is mplayer even in ubuntus apt-mirrors?
[12:36] <flodine> Razor-X screenshot of it
[12:36] <Razor-X> like I said, I use Eterm
[12:36] <Razor-X> Proteque: of course
[12:36] <medgno> Proteque, universe or multiverse
[12:36] <DukGalNa1u> anyone here able to help out with wireless nic?
[12:36] <PPC_Guy> okay.. updated the repositories for DVD playback still nothing.. Could it be issues with Totem?
[12:37] <Proteque> I have universe
[12:37] <PPC_Guy> haven't had any luck yet here with a linksys B/G card
[12:37] <flodine> Razor-X i use Eterm to with rephorm theme
[12:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a virtual drive for ubuntu
[12:37] <thr1ce> ChurcH_of_FoamY, for?
[12:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> a .vcd prgram
[12:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> games
[12:37] <Proteque> medgno: but... multiverse? what is that?
[12:38] <thr1ce> .vcd?
[12:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> likw windows has virtual drive that"emulates a cd rom with a virtual cd"
[12:38] <DukGalNa1u> i am having trouble with a wireless card, does anybody here know alot about connecting wireless cards?
[12:38] <thr1ce> ChurcH_of_FoamY, pirated games...?
[12:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> non
[12:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i own them
[12:38] <Belutz> the sidebar in this pic http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/images/shot25.jpg (on the right side) is using what applications?
[12:39] <medgno> Proteque, multiverse is packages that are outside of universe. I think lisencing trelated problems
[12:39] <Razor-X> a VCD program?
[12:39] <thr1ce> gkrellm
[12:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[12:39] <Razor-X> get your basic encoder/transcoder then
[12:39] <Razor-X> I hear transcode works well
[12:39] <Proteque> okay
[12:39] <DukGalNa1u> no thats not gkrellm
[12:39] <medgno> that's not gkrellm
[12:39] <stanford> I am trying to connect my linux and windows machines over a LAN (http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basicnetworking.shtml) but I get the error message: "The folder contents could not be displayed"
[12:39] <DukGalNa1u> thats the slit in fluxbox
[12:39] <Razor-X> I don't think there's a little program in Linux that holds your hand to make VCDs ;)
[12:39] <medgno> it looks like dockapps
[12:39] <bbailey> Belutz: Those are windowmaker dockapps
[12:39] <DukGalNa1u> with a bunch of preograms running in ti
[12:39] <nalioth> Razor-X: transcode works great
[12:39] <DukGalNa1u> *programs
[12:40] <Razor-X> nalioth: I have to apt-get it
[12:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[12:40] <Razor-X> I don't like emms that much...
[12:40] <Belutz> bbailey: does gnome has something like that?
[12:40] <medgno> Razor-X, acidrip and kmenc15 are nice things for general purpose mencoder encoding
[12:40] <ccollins> nalioths:  Thanks
[12:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> huh?
[12:40] <DukGalNa1u> i am having trouble with a wireless card, does anybody here know alot about connecting wireless cards?
[12:40] <nalioth> Razor-X: you'll have to jump thru your ass to get it via apt-get
[12:40] <Razor-X> nalioth: ;)
[12:40] <bbailey> Belutz: gnome (and kde's) equivalent are panel applets - no idea if there are applets specifically equivalent to those in the screenshot, but that's what to look for
[12:41] <medgno> Belutz, gkrellm looks kinda like http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm0.png
[12:41] <DukGalNa1u> anybody?
[12:41] <CVirus> does Ubuntu live CD auto mounts windows FAT32 partitions ?
[12:41] <Razor-X> hmmm... transcode gives me problems
[12:41] <Belutz> bbailey, medgno : thx
[12:41] <Razor-X> tons of 'em ;)
[12:41] <thr1ce> damn, no supertux in apt :(
[12:41] <stanford> I am trying to connect my linux and windows machines over a LAN (http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basicnetworking.shtml) but I get the error message: "The folder contents could not be displayed"
[12:42] <Razor-X> stanford: read the Samba stuff in the Ubuntu wikis
[12:42] <bbailey> medgno: thx for that link
[12:42] <stanford> razor-x: will do
[12:42] <medgno> thr1ce, do you have universe enabled? I see supertux in the repository
[12:42] <nalioth> Razor-X: get with me re transcode (it's not apt-gettable)
[12:42] <medgno> Belutz, and you can apt-get gkrellm, and works quite nice
[12:43] <thr1ce> medgno, oops...you're right :)  my apt-cache search XXX didn't return it] 
[12:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: ahhh, ok
[12:43] <Razor-X> i'll compile it then?
[12:43] <Belutz> medgno: i'm not using ubuntu yet, still running my winxp, and collecting apps i will use... thx a lot for the link :D
[12:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: get with me in ##apple or somewhere
[12:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: #ubuntu-nun?
[12:44] <medgno> Belutz, I think gkrellm even exists for windows, if you're interested
[12:44] <nalioth> Razor-X: i usually use ##apple for my technical non nun business but wherever
[12:44] <DukGalNa1u> cummon, anybody here ever had to wirelessly connect to the net?
[12:44] <Razor-X> mmmkay
[12:44] <Belutz> :)
[12:44] <Razor-X> i'm in non, though
[12:44] <G|immer> hello eveybody
[12:45] <G|immer> I found Downloader for X as a download manager. Do u recomment I compile and install it, and/or do u have better suggestion?
[12:45] <nalioth> DukGalNa1u: quite a lot of us wirelessly connect
[12:46] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: i am having trouble accessing my router
[12:46] <jaco^> G|immer it's a good choice
[12:46] <nalioth> DukGalNa1u: please state some specifics ie model name of wireless card, model of router, etc
[12:47] <ray_> mplayer hangs in firefox? any ideas
[12:47] <G|immer> jaco: thx
[12:47] <nalioth> G|immer: it wasnt in the repos?
[12:47] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: getting the info now
[12:47] <jaco^> ray_ have u installed w32codecs?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> isent there supposed to be a wireless card/chipset out now - that has great linux support from the actual company? 5200 chipset or somthing.
[12:47] <ray_> jaco^, yes
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> looking at gettting a few new wireless cards. :P want to get those.. heh
[12:47] <G|immer> nalioth: not with the repos I have configured (I removed those in recommended by ubuntuguide)
[12:48] <flodine> anyone get pekwm loaded with ubuntu
[12:48] <nalioth> G|immer: if you compile by hand, use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[12:48] <zth_> ray_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47131
[12:48] <zth_> check it ouy
[12:48] <zth_> *out
[12:48] <jaco^> G|immer anyway look for d4x
[12:48] <AdmiralSenn> whee things are broken!
[12:48] <G|immer> nalioth: ok. I got my repos from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:48] <jaco^> with synaptic
[12:49] <G|immer> jaco: ok, will check. 1 sec
[12:49] <G|immer> jaco, nalioth: oh! i foung it, silly me.. I search for the name "download". lol
[12:50] <jaco^> :)
[12:50] <Reticent> can u install ubuntu on a computer w/ preexisting XP?
[12:50] <ccollins> do you simply past what's on the top part of the page http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 into sources.list
[12:50] <nalioth> Reticent: yes you can
[12:50] <AdmiralSenn> yes
[12:50] <Quest-Master> Can someone tell me how to force a resolution change without reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[12:50] <nalioth> ccollins: you can back up your existing sources.list and just use that one
[12:50] <AdmiralSenn> Reticent: the partition manager will help you do that
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> Reticent: yes
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> Reticent: You can even resize your ntfs partition, and dual boot
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u>  	MR814NA
[12:51] <Reticent> thats what id like to do
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u> NETGEAR
[12:51] <thr1ce> is ANYONE using breezy?
[12:51] <Reticent> how do i go about doing that?
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: thats my router
[12:51] <AdmiralSenn> Reticent: install it?
[12:51] <AdmiralSenn> put the installation cd in the drive
[12:51] <disasm> i just setup racoon on ubuntu using an identical racoon-tool.conf i use on a debian sarge machine, and I get Jul  9 18:32:58 localhost racoon: ERROR: glob found no matches for path
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: HWP54G-CA
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: HAWKING TECHNOLOGIES
[12:51] <DukGalNa1u> thats my card
[12:52] <G|immer> btw, almost 5th day after installing Ubuntu. I now have PHP 4, Apache 2, mySQL server, HP Deskjet, PHPmyadmin and many others installed and working. 2 days since I used Windows :p
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> Reticent: boot from your CD, and at the partitioning stage, select your ntfs partition and hit "Size".  It will let you change the size of it, so that some of the free space on it is cut off for use in other partitions
[12:52] <Reticent> popped CD in, I can get ubuntu start up prompt, but when i press enter for default install windows still boots up?
[12:52] <nalioth> anyone help DukGalNa1u with his wireless?
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> Reticent: really?  That's weird
[12:52] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: ok.. fine then... shove me off as someone else problem....
[12:52] <Reticent> yeah, i thought so too
[12:52] <DukGalNa1u> nalioth: :)
[12:52] <AdmiralSenn> so like, libc6 is broken, and so is a lot of other stuff
[12:53] <Epix> hello world. i have a USB keyboard made by Evolution (the musical kind...) im wondering how to get it to work under linux,
[12:53] <jaco^> nalioth what wireless?
[12:53] <Reticent> there is a pause and the CD drive light is active w/ blinking cursor in top left, but eventually windows kicks it
[12:53] <nalioth> DukGalNa1u: i run PPC hardware and have 0 experience with configuring wireless stuff
[12:53] <Reticent> kicks in
[12:53] <nalioth> jaco^: see DukGalNa1u
[12:54] <G|immer> hmm, AMD wants to kick Intel's butt!
[12:54] <jaco^> DukGalNa1u what wireless?
[12:54] <AdmiralSenn> Reticent: you are booting from cd, right?
[12:54] <Reticent> yeah
[12:54] <AdmiralSenn> weird
[12:54] <Reticent> there is no floppy on this thing, boot order is 1. CD 2. CD etc
[12:54] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: i got a wireless nic and i can't connect to my router
[12:55] <jaco^> DukGalNa1u which is the wireless card?
[12:55] <Arbitrator> Reticent: Can't you boot your win-cd either?
[12:55] <unome> is there a debsums bersion of Ubuntu?
[12:55] <Reticent> OEM install
[12:55] <Reticent> lol
[12:55] <nalioth> unome: what?
[12:55] <unome> is there a debsums version of Ubuntu?
[12:55] <TokenBad> how come now i have no sound what so ever..
[12:55] <TokenBad> even the little speaker is gone
[12:56] <nalioth> unome: i hv no clue what debsums is
[12:56] <unome> nalioth a tool that checks the intergrity of your system as in (rootkits ..ahem)
[12:56] <Arbitrator> If you can't boot other cd's, it can't be ubuntu right?
[12:56] <Epix> Help :(
[12:56] <Reticent> true
[12:56] <AdmiralSenn> no, help me
[12:57] <nalioth> unome: <ahem> idk
[12:57] <Arbitrator> So, can you boot xp (or anything else)?
[12:57] <Reticent> can u make a boot CD in windows?
[12:57] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: the last one
[12:57] <Arbitrator> What about your original win-cd :-) ?
[12:57] <TokenBad> or anyone know how to turn sound back on?
[12:57] <jaco^> DukGalNa1u
[12:57] <nalioth> channel occupants: please preface your comments toward the user you are speaking with
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> TokenBad: how'd you turn it off?
[12:57] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: hawking tech
[12:57] <Reticent> machine doesn't have one
[12:57] <TokenBad> rebooted
[12:57] <jaco^> u has to load the firmware
[12:57] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: loaded
[12:57] <unome> nalioth, I'm trying to make sure this box is sane, debsums is excellent for Debian
[12:58] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: as far as i can tell
[12:58] <nalioth> unome: so port it over
[12:58] <Arbitrator> ... then try another linuxiso. maybe debian
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> TokenBad: =[ depends on what temporary changes you had made to make it turn on then.  If I were you, I'd turn up all your sound devices, and uh..
[12:58] <unome> nalioth hmm maybe
[12:58] <jaco^> DukGalNa1u had u moved it on hotplug/firmware dir?
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> hmm, sound is such an odd issue.  I want to add a section about it to my wiki, but I'm not sure which fixes I should mention first
[12:58] <TokenBad> but what would make the speaker go
[12:58] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: it installed itself
[12:59] <TokenBad> is there a command in terminal can use to maybe check?
[12:59] <jaco^> ok, now have u set the ESSID in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:59] <leandro_> is apt-build working on breezy?
[12:59] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: yup
[12:59] <jaco^> if u use a security key u has to set it
[01:00] <jaco^> mmmmmm
[01:00] <DukGalNa1u> no securtiy key
[01:00] <jaco^> so, u can't still ping your router?
[01:00] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: nope
[01:00] <jaco^> try iwconfig
[01:01] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: looks good for wlan0
[01:01] <G|immer> guys, my mounts to my ntfs partitions are owned by root, thus i cannot change any files there. What is the command to give my user permissions?
[01:01] <jaco^> it seems an auth problems for me
[01:01] <jaco^> lspci - v DukGalNa1u
[01:01] <medgno> G|immer, writing NTFS is dangerous. As in, likely to mess up the partition
[01:02] <G|immer> medgno: oh!
[01:02] <cyphase> hey everyone
[01:02] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: it shows the card
[01:02] <medgno> if you need to share data between a linux and windows OS, a FAT filesystem is the best idea
[01:02] <phzi> would anyone be able to assist me with configuring a dual header setup (big screen)
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> G|immer: you cannot write to ntfs from linux
[01:03] <phzi> I have my xorg.conf file written so it should work, but for some reason it still loads in clone mode
[01:03] <tweakism> What's wrong with the archives?
[01:03] <tweakism> I get md5sum mismatches.
[01:03] <jaco^> i dunno DukGalNa1u it seems an authentication probs
[01:03] <thr1ce> other than the mozilla mplayer plugin, anyone knwo a good way to view streaming .mov's?  (apple trailers)
[01:03] <G|immer> what about the other way round? is there a windows prog that lets me get files from Ext3 partitions?
[01:03] <medgno> tweakism, try getting rid of your country code and doing a straight archive.ubuntu.com
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: tried the xine or vlc plugins?
[01:04] <TokenBad> so no one know the command or know how to get that speaker back?
[01:04] <DukGalNa1u> jaco^: hmm
[01:04] <tweakism> G|immer: There are a couple, google it.  There is no way to use an ext3 partition as a disk in Windows.
[01:04] <nalioth> G|immer: do yourself a favor and write to your NTFS. You'll be windows-free in less than 2 seconds
[01:04] <DukGalNa1u> i may need to go to your house again
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> lol
[01:04] <DukGalNa1u> heh
[01:04] <phzi> tweakism: I use ext3 in windows
[01:04] <DukGalNa1u> wrong place
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> G|immer: if you want something that both OSs support, try fat32
[01:04] <medgno> phzi, how?
[01:04] <nalioths_dog> tweakism: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:05] <nalioths_dog> tweakism, repos are wonky, use the above sources
[01:05] <Moppin> TokenBad, right click on the bar, Add to Pannel, Volume Control
[01:05] <mjr> I'm pretty sure I read about a windows ext2/3 driver in the latest linux magazine
[01:05] <phzi> there is a command line tool that maps ext2/3 as read/write able drives
[01:05] <mjr> but don't remember spesifics
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> G|immer: or use another networked computer in-between.  Both of them can read files over the internet, regardless of the filesystem they're from
[01:05] <tweakism> :%s/us\.archive\.ubuntu\.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g
[01:05] <G|immer> nalioth: maybe i should once i copy my project files and docs. I already have not logged to win2k since 2 days. lol
[01:05] <tweakism> good enough?
[01:05] <medgno> wow, very spiffy
[01:05] <phzi> I can find out for you, give me one minute to map my windows drive and look in Program Files
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: what do you think of my wiki now?
[01:06] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: whats the page named now?
[01:06] <phzi> medgno: google for ext2sd
[01:06] <phzi> that's the tool
[01:06] <G|immer> tiglionabbit: I know that is the best idea. Currently am stuch with one computer... Unless u can think I can use my P233MMX lol!
[01:06] <medgno> phzi, not finding any results
[01:07] <phzi> k, give me a minute, I'll find the website
[01:07] <medgno> thanks a lot
[01:07] <phzi> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[01:07] <TokenBad> Moppin, thanks that got it back for me
[01:07] <phzi> missed a letter in the name
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[01:07] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[01:07] <phzi> let me know if you need any help with it medgno
[01:08] <medgno> phzi, thanks. I should be good, just asking for future reference
[01:09] <G|immer> hmm, where does gnome keep its menu entries configuration?
[01:11] <medgno> G|immer, /usr/share/applications  but you probably want to find a menu editor for it
[01:11] <thotypous> haahaha
[01:11] <thotypous> sorry
[01:12] <jpoe> hey all
[01:12] <phzi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/463 > anyone have any suggestions?
[01:13] <nalioth> G|immer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[01:13] <phzi> dual header with my Radeon 9500 Pro isn't working... not sure why, the config looks right to me
[01:14] <dbernar1> phzi: tried the binarydriverhowto wiki from wiki.ubuntu.com?
[01:14] <phzi> already installed
[01:15] <phzi> I am running the fglrx drivers
[01:15] <dbernar1> have you tried the wiki, tho, it has instructions for dual head.
[01:15] <phzi> ya, I have
[01:15] <dbernar1> ok.
[01:15] <phzi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/463 > anyone have any suggestions?
[01:15] <Mobius> What BT client do you all use?
[01:15] <dbernar1> I dont.
[01:15] <phzi> dbernarl, that is my config
[01:15] <Epix> how do i create /dev/snd/seq???
[01:15] <dbernar1> I use gnutellagtk
[01:16] <apokryphos> Mobius: azureus
[01:16] <phzi> azureus here too
[01:16] <medgno> Mobius, gnome-btdownload
[01:16] <apokryphos> and lately ktorrent a bit
[01:16] <medgno> but I'm not a hardcore torrenter
[01:16] <dbernar1> there is also bittornado
[01:16] <Mobius> is gnome-bt the one thats installed by default?
[01:16] <jtgameover> azureus
[01:16] <dbernar1> ya
[01:16] <phzi> bitcomet is my favourite tool, but alas, no linux version yet
[01:16] <[koji] > Mobius: I think it is
[01:17] <Mobius> I am trying to find that one shows uploading as well =)
[01:17] <apokryphos> I'm pretty sure it does
[01:17] <doug_> Is there a 'scroll back' function to this channel?   or a 'History' ?
[01:17] <medgno> gnome-bt at the very least lets you throttle it
[01:17] <apokryphos> Mobius: azureus is far more advanced, though.
[01:17] <dbernar1> doug_: well, it would depend on your client.
[01:17] <[koji] > doug_: this channel i believe is archived
[01:17] <G|immer> medngo, nalioth: thx
[01:17] <Mobius> anyone here try that Legends game?
[01:18] <monkeyy> ok i need big time help
[01:18] <G|immer> btw, it was only today that i found these chat logs are archived online and color coded :p
[01:18] <jtgameover> lol
[01:18] <G|immer> important resource.
[01:18] <TokenBad> anyone installed windows based games via cedega?
[01:18] <dbernar1> phzi: you have the fglrx-control package installed?
[01:18] <medgno> TokenBad, hi
[01:18] <[koji] > so be careful with what you say
[01:18] <kbrooks> sp////
[01:18] <phzi> dbernarl, yes I do
[01:18] <kbrooks> so....
[01:19] <TokenBad> sup medgno
[01:19] <G|immer> hehe
[01:19] <medgno> TokenBad, need help with cedega?
[01:19] <Epix> is it safe to add stuff like this to /etc/modules? alias char-major-116 snd
[01:19] <dbernar1> and you ran it?
[01:19] <TokenBad> yeah every game I try to install says not enough space cause its not registering the space on the mounted drive
[01:19] <phzi> I ran thru the setup, still operated in clone mode, so I wrote my own config - clone mode still
[01:19] <kbrooks> !restricted
[01:19] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <dbernar1> monkeyy: are you gonna ask for it?
[01:19] <G|immer> speaking of windows games... what about cedega? can it do it?
[01:19] <monkeyy> i am dual booting between Mac OS 9 / Mac OS X / ubuntu on a Mac i went to Mac OS X and under start up disk chose the startup disk as Mac OS 9 now on reboot yaboot is not coming back how do i get yaboot back ?
[01:19] <nalioth> TokenBad: you need to fsck your drive, i believe
[01:20] <monkeyy> multi booting ^ err
[01:20] <TokenBad> what is fsck?
[01:20] <nalioth> monkeyy: hold the C key
[01:20] <medgno> TokenBad, okay, I'm not sure about that. I've never had problems, but I've always installed on my root drive
[01:20] <nalioth> monkeyy: at the gong
[01:20] <Mobius> ttyl
[01:20] <monkeyy> ok lemme try
[01:20] <TokenBad> yeah see I am installing on a mounted drive
[01:20] <doug_> I think I'm using X-Chat[2.4.1]  *** /#ubuntu(+tncPJ 10,5)
[01:20] <medgno> G|immer, it can play most games. I've gotten mine to run steam games (HL2), diablo2, and starcraft
[01:21] <monkeyy> nalioth nothing happens it boots into mac os x
[01:21] <othernoob> medgno would you happen to have played dune2000 ?
[01:21] <phzi> monkeyy you use GRUB?
[01:21] <dbernar1> c is for boot from cd.
[01:21] <nalioth> monkeyy: restart your mac, and at the system bell, hold the 'c' key (you are on a new world mac, right?)
[01:21] <nalioth> shit
[01:21] <dbernar1> run the installer again, and install only yaboot.
[01:21] <G|immer> medngo: ah, great. what about wine?!
[01:21] <monkeyy> i dont have a cd in
[01:21] <medgno> othernoob, nope, but the game database is here ->http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[01:21] <nalioth> monkeyy: sorry, the alt-option key
[01:22] <monkeyy> ok
[01:22] <othernoob> medgno, I'm not wondering about whether it works or not. I'm stuck on a level ;)
[01:22] <nalioth> monkeyy: you should see a little penguin at teh choice menu
[01:22] <medgno> Oh, gotcha
[01:22] <medgno> sorry, can't help
[01:22] <monkeyy> fantastic
[01:22] <monkeyy> nalioth thanks so much
[01:23] <nalioth> monkeyy: once you're in ubuntu, you can redo yaboot
[01:23] <othernoob> medgno: that's okay, i'll just have to try harder i gues :)
[01:23] <othernoob> s/gues/guess
[01:23] <monkeyy> so in the future to get yaboot back i will have to hold down the option key right
[01:23] <jtgameover> what are some favorite pacakges for people here?
[01:23] <jtgameover> besides xine, mplayer, xmms, etc...
[01:23] <phzi> 3ddesk :P
[01:23] <nalioth> monkeyy: as long as you dont isntall osx anymore, yaboot should stay put
[01:23] <monkeyy> ah i see this machine in fact has a total of 4 OSES  3 macs and one ubuntu
[01:23] <dbernar1> nalioth, add that to the wiki page for that.
[01:23] <apokryphos> filelight
[01:23] <monkeyy> yup i agree nalioth
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: streamtuner
[01:23] <othernoob> G|immer: afaik the difference between wine and cedega is that cedega tries to emulate directx
[01:23] <nalioth> dbernar1: what wiki page?
[01:23] <dbernar1> it is yaboot configurationformacintoshpowerpcsdualboot
[01:24] <dbernar1> no space between the yaboot and the rest, off course, typo
[01:24] <nalioth> dbernar1: gesundheit!
[01:24] <dbernar1> gesundheit is used when someone sneezes.
[01:24] <nikkia> othernoob: wine tries too, just not as hard
[01:24] <monkeyy> ubuntu runs faster on my iBook then any other Mac OS
[01:25] <nalioth> dbernar1: and yabootconfigurationformacintoshpowerpcsdualboot looks like a sneeze to me
[01:25] <dbernar1> it has some line about command-option-P-R.
[01:25] <nalioth> monkeyy: older ibook?
[01:25] <dbernar1> nalioth: it is a wiki page
[01:25] <G|immer> othernoob: ... which we need to run windows games. ok, great.
[01:25] <monkeyy> ubuntu (hoary) is starting for the first time as i chat
[01:25] <nalioth> dbernar1: i know, i'm teasin ya
[01:25] <[koji] > lol
[01:25] <monkeyy> nalioth ibook G4
[01:25] <othernoob> G|immer: i run Dune2000 with wine
[01:25] <dbernar1> I knew that...
[01:25] <monkeyy> its an year old
[01:25] <jpoe> does anyone know, should an SMP kernel be used to take advantage of a dual core processor such as an Athlon X2?
[01:25] <nalioth> monkeyy: do you run tiger on it?
[01:26] <nalioth> jpoe: yes, if there is one for it
[01:26] <monkeyy> yes i just checked i am multibooting panther/tiger/ubuntu
[01:26] <othernoob> nikkia: I didn't know that, was told that only cedega took that step
[01:26] <jtgameover> if i want to listen to my music at home while i'm at work, without having to do download the files themselves, how can i do this?
[01:26] <othernoob> but thanks
[01:26] <G|immer> othernoob: hmm. I actually installed Wine today but did not try it yet. My essential games are Theif 2 and UT.
[01:26] <nikkia> othernoob, mostly, the difference is that cedega is optimised for gaming
[01:26] <monkeyy> i think i will just trash panther later on
[01:26] <dbernar1> there is a #cedega, if you did not know...
[01:26] <monkeyy> i will be online with xchat here shortly
[01:27] <nalioth> monkeyy: tiger runs better on my mac(s) then any other osx has
[01:27] <[koji] > jtgameover:  i think you need to setup a streaming server like icecast
[01:27] <nikkia> G|immer: UT should have a native version
[01:27] <jtgameover> hmm yeah i was looking into that
[01:27] <jtgameover> is it easy
[01:27] <nalioth> jtgameover: streaming server
[01:27] <monkeyy> ya nalioth but sometimes dashboard can make it run slow
[01:27] <dbernar1> mine is in the mail...for a while now, now that I think of it, naliotH the tiger is...
[01:27] <nalioth> monkeyy: so turn it off
[01:27] <monkeyy> the only reason why i am sticking to tiger is dashboard and also spotlight
[01:28] <[koji] > jtgameover:  i had no experience sorry
[01:28] <othernoob> nikkia: would you happen to know a NeoGeo emulator like winkawaks for linux?
[01:28] <monkeyy> my original install 10.3.3 was slow
[01:28] <G|immer> nikkia: I was looking for that. I found links on Loki to donwload a beta.. but the links did not seem to load. I am talking about UT: GOTY
[01:28] <nikkia> othernoob: no idea
[01:28] <nikkia> G|immer: you mean the original UT?
[01:28] <monkeyy> 10.3.5 and 10.4.1 are pretty fast and so is ubuntu
[01:28] <nikkia> G|immer: or do you mean UT 2k3/2k4 ?
[01:28] <G|immer> nikkia: yep, the Game of The Year package.
[01:28] <othernoob> G|immer: are you talking about LokiTorrent?
[01:28] <nalioth> monkeyy: do you have much ram on it?
[01:29] <nalioth> monkeyy: i have 1.2gb of ram and my osx smokes
[01:29] <nikkia> G|immer: the original UT most definitely has a linux port, but it was by loki, and its a pain to find
[01:29] <monkeyy> i think its 256 Mb
[01:29] <monkeyy> wow cool
[01:29] <G|immer> nikkia: ic.
[01:29] <monkeyy> u on a G5 ?
[01:29] <nikkia> G|immer: i used to play UT exclusively on linux, when i had it
[01:29] <monkeyy> the comp that i am on now smokes.... 1 GB ram 3 ghz processor
[01:29] <Chillout> hi there, i am new to ubuntu/linux. how to i make it play avi/divx files? which is the best player?
[01:29] <jpoe> nalioth:  So would linux-image-k7-smp be a good choice for an Athlon64 4400 X2?
[01:29] <G|immer> othernoob, no, a website of a company  called Loki that ports games to Linux.
[01:30] <monkeyy> Chillout xine is good
[01:30] <nikkia> G|immer: iirc, what i did tho, was used the non-GOTY version of linux UT with the GOTY CDs
[01:30] <Chillout> monkeyy: how do i get it?
[01:30] <othernoob> G|immer: oh okay, just thought of the other site because ppl talked about torrent clients earlier
[01:30] <dbernar1> Chillout: read the following page.
[01:30] <dbernar1> !restricted
[01:30] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:30] <monkeyy> xine.sourceforge.net/
[01:31] <G|immer> nikkia: thx for the tips. I guess i have to dig out some files from the Net.
[01:31] <nikkia> G|immer: anyway, ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/lokigames/beta/ut/ut-install-436-GOTY.run works for me
[01:31] <Zugwrack> Hi everyone...wondering about a command line program that can read mp3 files and transcode to aac?
[01:31] <nalioth> jpoe: no, because those are for pre amd64 processors
[01:31] <monkeyy> is it true ubuntu takes a long time to start for the first time right now its setting up all the services and stuff ?
[01:32] <jpoe> ahh, yes..
[01:32] <gotonpo> Will someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right instead of underneath?
[01:32] <dryad> Hey - I'm really looking forward to install Ubuntu linux 5.04 on my amd64 machine, however, one thing is holding me back from installing it. I've got a 200gb ntfs-formatted drive, which I will need access to from Ubuntu. Is it possible to convert this partition to Fat32?
[01:32] <jtgameover> Dr_Willis,
[01:32] <gotonpo> or if it's even possible?
[01:32] <jtgameover> dryad,
[01:32] <jtgameover> dryad, it is very easy with partition magic
[01:33] <nickrud> gotonpo system-preferences-file-manager-view tab has it
[01:33] <monkeyy> gotonpo it is paossible
[01:33] <dryad> jtgameover, alright, I thought so - but can fat32 handle 200gb in one partition?
[01:33] <nalioth> dryad: yes, with partition magic (a commercial product)
[01:33] <monkeyy> dryad take a backup though
[01:33] <jtgameover> dryad, alternatively, you can do it while you're installing ubuntu
[01:33] <monkeyy> before u run partition magic
[01:33] <jtgameover> dryad, i have a 300 GB external usb hard drive
[01:33] <jtgameover> i broke it up into 4 partitions
[01:33] <gotonpo> nickrud: "Text beside icons"? that doesn't have any effect for some reason :(
[01:33] <dryad> hm alright
[01:34] <jtgameover> two are fat, one is ext3, one is ntfs
[01:34] <Moppin> dryad, Yes, FAT32 is safely scale to 2-TB  over that the FAT gets to be too big
[01:34] <dryad> alright cool
[01:34] <[koji] > get a systemrescuecd it has qt_parted
[01:34] <Moppin> dryad, I have a 500-GB FAT32 that runs just fine.
[01:34] <Zugwrack> I thought the kernel now supports ntfs both read/write?
[01:34] <monkeyy> is it true ubuntu takes a long time to start for the first time right now its setting up all the services and stuff ?
[01:34] <dryad> I'll give it a try then
[01:34] <nalioth> monkeyy: yes
[01:34] <templar> I want to install msttcorefonts, but when i do a apt-get install, i have an error : the paquage is too old, or missing... can somebody know how i can get it ?
[01:34] <monkeyy> ok cool
[01:34] <templar> plz :)
[01:35] <monkeyy> nalioth coming to file formats which all formats can ubuntu recognise on a mac ?
[01:35] <nickrud> I guess it only works in a window, not the desktop. I only tried it once :)
[01:35] <Zugwrack> monkeyy: It doesn't do well with HFS extended..although you can read write HFS
[01:35] <monkeyy> i am sorry  imean like unix file system mac os extended ?
[01:35] <gotonpo> yeah, weird huh? because default zoom level right there affects the desktop
[01:36] <Chillout> monkeyy: i donlowded xine but i am having problem installing it. can u help?
[01:36] <monkeyy> hmm ill have to check this out then
[01:36] <monkeyy> sure
[01:36] <nalioth> monkeyy: most of em
[01:36] <templar> nobody can help me :(?
[01:36] <paul_> templer whats the issue
[01:36] <nickrud> I've never gotten the icon size stuff right, the destop to window icon size relationship
[01:36] <Zugwrack> monkeyy: Only reason I know is I couldn't figure out why I could read from my iPod but could never get any programs to work with it...I had to reformat the iPod to HFS instead of HFS extended
[01:37] <TokenBad> in one forum read something about disable disk quota
[01:37] <TokenBad> but in my fstab I don't see anything about quota
[01:37] <templar> paul_ : I want to install msttcorefonts, but when i do a apt-get install, i have an error : the paquage is too old, or missing... can somebody know how i can get it ?
[01:38] <paul_> have you enabled universe sources?
[01:38] <G|immer> nikkia: thx, am downloading
[01:38] <templar> no, how ?
[01:38] <paul_> etc/apt/sourceslist
[01:38] <paul_> uncomment the universe.source entry
[01:39] <warren_> I just installed Ubuntu and I'm having a really weird problem: whenever I try and drag anything (such as moving a window, scrolling, etc) it somehow acts like a double-click
[01:39] <Br34ch> aa
[01:39] <Br34ch> !ping
[01:39] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, br34ch.
[01:39] <paul_> you can also do that thru the gui synaptic if you wish
[01:39] <Yuki> does anyone know how I can access my NTFS partitions?
[01:39] <Br34ch> Okay, one quck question. AND YES
[01:39] <Br34ch> What Yuki just asked
[01:39] <Br34ch> That's what I wanna know.
[01:40] <Yuki> lol
[01:40] <templar> i'm under kubuntu paul_  ;)
[01:40] <cafuego> '/msg ubotu user accessible ntfs'
[01:40] <paul_> ouch, not sure, do a google search for kubuntu users guide
[01:40] <templar> eb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[01:40] <templar> deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[01:40] <Br34ch> cafuego: Seriously? Easy as that?
[01:40] <Chillout> hi there, could anyone help me install "xine" please? i m getting this errormessage: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:40] <templar> this lines are already uncomment
[01:40] <jtgameover> Yuki, just mount it with ro, and file system ntfs
[01:40] <jtgameover> Chillout, install the "build-essential" package
[01:40] <paul_> ya i would think the kubuntu source list would be the same as ubuntu
[01:41] <Yuki> jtgameover.  so, what would the command be then?
[01:41] <nalioth> paul_: it is
[01:41] <iceraven> How do I search for text contained within files?  I found the command locate which searchs for filenames, but I want to search for the text within those files?
[01:41] <paul_> templar i learned that www.ubuntuguide.org is very useful
[01:41] <jtgameover> Yuki, /dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    user,ro,auto,noexec             0       0
[01:41] <paul_> also wiki
[01:41] <nalioth> iceraven: grep
[01:41] <jtgameover> put that in your /etc/fstab, and modify as necessary
[01:41] <nalioths_dog> paul_: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[01:42] <jtgameover> Yuki, keep in mind this is READ-ONLY access
[01:42] <jtgameover> writing to NTFS is very dangerous
[01:42] <paul_> nalioths i recommend anything that has worked for me, sorry
[01:42] <iceraven> Thanks
[01:42] <Yuki> but I can copy from the hd onto my ext2 hd right?
[01:42] <G|immer> paul: yesterday, a link was posted here to ubuntulinix discouraging users from following the ubuntuguide, and explaining why.
[01:43] <paul_> i didnt see that, can you repost
[01:43] <monkeyy> nalioth u will have to guide me through some steps i will ask as soon as ubuntu is up ok ?
[01:43] <G|immer> paul: 1 sec
[01:43] <templar> its strange that i don't find this paquage ... :\
[01:44] <G|immer> paul_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[01:44] <[koji] > i still find some value on that site but maybe a bit too much for beginners
[01:44] <nalioth> monkeyy: sure thing
[01:44] <paul_> im sorry that the folks at ubuntu are authortarian and disaprove of workarounds to their ways of doing things
[01:44] <nalioth> monkeyy: you might find it easier in ##apple
[01:45] <monkeyy> nalioth it is a ubuntu thing like installing some packages
[01:45] <G|immer> paul_ to me as a beginner, I would naturaly presume they know better. Although I did follow a couple of guidelines there and they worked for me.
[01:46] <nikkia> they are wrong about one thing, the wiki presents no solution to the sharing audio problem, they do not discuss dmix at all on any page
[01:46] <nalioth> monkeyy: i dont understand
[01:46] <monkeyy> nalioth be right back ok ?
[01:46] <paul_> for christ sakes, wiki hasnt even authenticated their security certificates, lol
[01:46] <nalioth> G|immer: not all of them are so beneficial to new users... be very wary
[01:46] <cafuego> paul_: I think the issue is that the moment you start making nonstandard changes to config files/your setup, people here won be able to help you with additional problems anymore. Normally when that happens the person who ruined their install gets very aggressive and start abusing the people who can help them.
[01:46] <cafuego> s/can/can't/
[01:46] <G|immer> paul_ lol
[01:47] <concept10> Guys, I just got here. What is the problem?
[01:47] <paul_> i think its just a bunch of snobs who are bound and determined to make everyone do things one way, not necessarily the correct way, but their way
[01:47] <concept10> paul_, you are wrong
[01:47] <paul_> linux is about freedom
[01:47] <paul_> ubuntu is about rule of a few apparently
[01:47] <[koji] > the maintainer of that site has been diligent enought to correct what is wrong
[01:48] <cafuego> paul_: Youe free to run a distro that does things the way _you_ want to. You're NOT free to abuse people who do things differently.
[01:48] <G|immer> nalioth: I am keeping an open eye and being cautious. computers are about common sense (mostly)
[01:48] <tweakism> cafuego: you from slashnet?
[01:48] <paul_> ive not had one problem with ubuntu guide other than us sources had md5sum problems
[01:48] <cafuego> paul_: Now, trolling is off-topic. kindly desist.
[01:48] <paul_> which was easily corrected
[01:48] <nalioth> G|immer: yes, but as a new user, the guide can be tricksy
[01:48] <flankk> okay.. I've had this problem for 2 days with little help.  I am just trying to get audio working, but lspci doesn't detect my integrated audio. I have NO IDEA what the chipset is, so what can I do?
[01:49] <aru> I think cafuego hit the nail on the head when he said the moment you start making nonstandard changes to config files/your setup, people here won be able to help you with additional problems anymore.
[01:49] <cafuego> aru: 3 years of putting up with people who have exactly that problem...
[01:49] <paul_> freedom of speech rules, dictators wont have any of that, and apparently neither will this room hehe
[01:49] <nalioth> paul_: read the URL the dog sent you, please
[01:49] <G|immer> nalioth: that's why we have you guys! :D
[01:49] <concept10> paul_, Im not going to feed into any agrument, but I must say that you are free to administrate your system anyway that you want.  I have used the ubuntuguide, but I HAVE experience with linux.  There are some things on the site like scripts that people may not know about
[01:49] <paul_> i did, i didnt see anything relavant
[01:51] <tweakism> I use Ubuntu because it gives me a good package manager, a good package repository, and reasonable installation defaults.  Sometimes I yank Ubuntu's pref, config file format in favor of my own (like apache).  You can only do that when you don't intend to use ubuntu's config file management utilities afterwards, though.
[01:51] <paul_> concept i only know what has worked for me, and thats what i tell people , sorry
[01:51] <paul_> i will stop trying to help, my bad
[01:52] <G|immer> breezy is a new Ubuntu release-to-be?
[01:52] <cafuego> G|immer: Yes, to be released in october
[01:52] <Davey> G|immer: yes, Breezy Badger
[01:52] <Davey> in October? :(
[01:52] <Davey> I was hoping sooner :/
[01:52] <cafuego> Davey: 5.10 <- note the 10
[01:52] <Davey> dunno why though, Hoary works just fine for me
[01:52] <Davey> hunh?
[01:53] <concept10> flankk, do you have onboard audio or a PCI audio card?
[01:53] <cafuego> it got a higher version number gotta be better lolol!?
[01:53] <[koji] > The 10M won't make in sooner :P
[01:53] <nikkia> cafuego, in some cases, thats true and you know it
[01:53] <flankk> concept10, flankk: "...integrated audio..."
[01:53] <ccc> hmm, when i was a kid .10 was a lower version number than .4, doesn't seem to be that way anymore.
[01:54] <cafuego> nikkia: More features, more bugs. it's always the same.
[01:54] <aru> .04 is less than .1
[01:54] <concept10> flankk, sorry, i just woke up (half blind)
[01:54] <nikkia> cafuego: more critical vulns fixed, too
[01:54] <aris_> do we have a good ide for gnome ?
[01:54] <cafuego> nikkia: They get fixed in security updates anyway
[01:54] <ccc> since 10 ends up before 4 in an alphabetic listing
[01:54] <nikkia> cafuego: in some apps, not all
[01:54] <[koji] > aris_: try anjuta
[01:54] <concept10> flankk, you can determine what type of chipset by searching for specs on your motherboard
[01:54] <flankk> concept10, np, i guess it's just old.. but i at least need something to detect it so i can install the correct drivers.  first time i've come across lspci not detecting it.
[01:55] <iceraven> Whats the command to whisper to someone?
[01:55] <nikkia> cafuego: the year old version of sqlite in hoary has some pretty major bugs that have long since been fixed, for example
[01:55] <flankk> concept10, hmm.. i tried that, i suppose i can look further.
[01:55] <cafuego> iceraven: /msg <user> HELLO!!!!
[01:55] <concept10> flankk, my guess is that its some AC '97 compatible chipset
[01:55] <medgno> iceraven, type in /msg usename message text here
[01:55] <UEUE> I have Windows.. and I wanna move over to Ubuntu, but still have Windows . . . I know little of hardware, could someone be so kind as to simple link me to something that'll elaborate at least what grounds I'll be at as of this
[01:55] <flankk> concept10, it's an intel board
[01:55] <concept10> flankk, do you have the motherboard model number?
[01:56] <cafuego> Surely 'lspci' will say what controller
[01:56] <TokenBad> well I give up....can't get cedega to work for me
[01:56] <nalioth> UEUE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <flankk> concept10,  Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge
[01:56] <UEUE> I was hoping for something more precise . . . but okay, so much as some keywords I should look out for? ;\
[01:57] <concept10> flankk,  make sure that the sound is ENABLED in the BIOS.  They could keep lspci from pciking it up
[01:57] <paul_> wernst is on a distinguished road
[01:57] <paul_> 
[01:57] <paul_> Default Re: HOWTO: Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide
[01:57] <paul_> Glad to hear you're back on your feet again.
[01:57] <paul_> I feel that the Unofficial Guide is SO IMPORTANT to Ubuntu that I was tempted to offer to take over editorship after a few weeks of no news about it. I didn't want to, but I was starting to think it would be necessary.
[01:57] <paul_> Really, I feel that strongly about The Guide. If every distro had such a guide, the Linux world would be a better place. As it stands now Unbuntu is a better distro because of The Guide. Thanks to The Guide, I'm starting to recommend total newbies to Ubuntu.
[01:57] <paul_> My hat's off to you!
[01:57] <paul_> -Warren Ernst
[01:57] <paul_> (and now I'll step out from behind the curtain)
[01:57] <paul_> Contributor, PC Magazine
[01:57] <paul_> Columnist, CPU Magainze
[01:57] <Moppin> TokenBad, Have you checked out this site? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[01:57] <UEUE> By the way . . . I can be sure, that my existing things won't be altered, or God forbid, removed? Or any mere danger of it at a screw-up? :x
[01:57] <flankk> concept10, this box originally had Windows on it with working audio.  no bios settings have been changed since.
[01:58] <paul_> sorry to rain on your parade, have a nice evening
[01:58] <concept10> flankk, it wouldnt hurt to check on next reboot
[01:58] <concept10> flankk, where did you get that model number
[01:58] <flankk> concept10, via lspci..
[01:59] <concept10> flankk, thats a chipset
[01:59] <flankk> concept10, i will check next reboot though.. usually lspci detects integrated anything on the bus..
[01:59] <flankk> concept10, what do you suggest then?
[01:59] <TokenBad> Moppin, I have it installed..
[02:00] <TokenBad> it just will not install any game
[02:00] <nalioth> UEUE: if you have free space on your HD, your windows shoulnt be touched
[02:00] <concept10> flankk, check bios, BIOS usually has the model of the motherboard, or open case and get the model
[02:00] <flankk> concept10, opening case is last resort, considering it's like welded together.
[02:01] <concept10> flankk, okay, reboot with a pen handy to write down motherboard info from the BIOS screen
[02:01] <flankk> concept10, hold on.. i'll get whatever information i can from BIOS settings, brb
[02:01] <aru> isnt there something like the BelArc Advisor for linux?
[02:01] <iceraven> What tool would I use to easily find and replace information inside a mysql database?
[02:01] <UEUE> nalioth: Is it best to, beforehand, have one drive completey free? :x or is that a stupid question to begin with
[02:02] <dbernar1> perl
[02:02] <dbernar1> hehe
[02:02] <dbernar1> dunno
[02:02] <cpalermo> Alright, probalby a stupid question, but how do you add a second IP to an ethernet interface?
[02:02] <nalioth> UEUE: if you have an extra drive, thats great
[02:02] <kbrooks> UEUE, you should format it all.
[02:02] <nikkia> cpalermo: ifconfig eth0 add <second address>
[02:03] <cpalermo> iceraven - how about select?
[02:03] <UEUE> Oh, sorry, messed over myself -- not a drive, just a partition. about 10 gigz
[02:03] <nikkia> cpalermo: or you can use ip addr add <second address> dev eth0
[02:03] <kbrooks> UEUE, dual booting is the best way to switch between ubuntu and windows
[02:03] <cpalermo> nikkia - yeah, I tried that, and it worked, but I'm looking for the gui tool. The command line works, but doesnt hold after reboot.
[02:03] <nikkia> cpalermo: afaik, there is no easy way to do it in /etc/network/interfaces, you need to add a 'up' rule and matching 'down' rule
[02:04] <iceraven> cpalermo: I'll look into that command, thanks
[02:04] <cpalermo> Alright.... thought I'd check here. I couldn't find anything either.
[02:04] <Yuki> I don't knowif the mount command worked
[02:04] <nikkia> cpalermo: i doubt there is a GUI tool, you're into non-standard behaviour adding 2nd addresses :)
[02:05] <Moppin> Most of the time I just whip up a quick script to run at boot to add 2nd IP addresses, additonal ARPs, routes, etc.
[02:05] <cpalermo> nikkia: Thanks. I'll go poke around in /etc/network and see where I can stick it ;-)
[02:05] <nikkia> cpalermo: as an example:
[02:06] <nikkia> cpalermo: the eth0 stanza in my interfaces file contains: up ip addr add 82.6.124.145 dev eth0
[02:06] <jtgameover> does anyone here use skippy or expocity
[02:06] <jtgameover> or anything of that sort
[02:06] <nikkia> cpalermo: as its essential for my IPv6 tunnels to have eth0 pretending to be my external IP address
[02:06] <flankk> concept10, it is an old BIOS, it said nothing about motherboard spec
[02:07] <cpalermo> nikkia: I was trying to do something like ifconfig eth0:1 123.123.123.123
[02:07] <Chillout> hi quick question: how does one open a file for editing on the console?
[02:07] <cpalermo> nikkia: looks like not gonna be as simple as a gui tool - eh... back to the terminal :-)
[02:07] <monkeyy> can any one try this out 1)make a new folder on your desktop 2)double click on it and then go to edit preferences 3)change the zoom to 50 % and then check text besides icons this is not working on my and gotonpo s ubuntu
[02:07] <nikkia> cpalermo: you can create a second iface stanza for eth0:1 that duplicates the eth0 stanza with a new address...
[02:08] <cpalermo> nikkia: Yup, thats what I need.
[02:08] <medgno> Chillout, using a text-mode editor like vim, or by opening it up with gedit (which will pop up a gedit window)
[02:08] <nikkia> cpalermo: but my understanding is that that is not quite the same behaviour as adding a second address to eth0
[02:08] <nikkia> cpalermo: they appear as different interfaces to the kernel, when you do that
[02:08] <Yuki> I need to access my NTFS partition and move some files from it to my ext2 partition, can anyone help me?
[02:08] <monkeyy> we cant get text besides icon on the desktop although in folders it is working
[02:08] <flankk> Chillout, man nano
[02:09] <Chillout> medgo: thx
[02:09] <cpalermo> nikkia: Yup. That is what I'm looking for - I need to be able to bring them up or down independently.
[02:09] <cpalermo> bbl
[02:10] <concept10> Chillout, sudo nano <file>
[02:10] <flankk> concept10, hello?
[02:10] <nikkia> concept10: sudo -e <file> will do just as well, less to type too
[02:11] <Red_Tide>  I need some advice on buying a new comp im thinking of this mobo http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K7N2GM-V&class=mb but I cannot find any reviews on the net any thoughts?
[02:11] <concept10> flankk, I guess I cant help because I dont have any other idea to get the info for your soundcard. Sorry.
[02:11] <concept10> nikkia, whats -e emacs?
[02:11] <nikkia> concept10: 'edit'
[02:11] <concept10> using what app?
[02:12] <nikkia> concept10: it invokes whatever editor is defined as EDITOR or the system editor (nano by default on ubuntu) as root on the file given
[02:12] <concept10> nikkia, ok great
[02:12] <concept10> I use nano alot more than any other editor
[02:12] <flankk> concept10, so basically if ubuntu doesn't magically make it work, you're screwed :|
[02:12] <nikkia> concept10: it does it in a safe way too, much like how vipw or such work
[02:13] <nikkia> concept10: ie, copies the file to /tmp, edits the file, then copies the file back to the original location as root
[02:13] <flankk> concept10, i really don't understand why lspci wouldn't detect it.
[02:13] <concept10> flankk, no distro could make it work if the card doesnt show up
[02:13] <nikkia> concept10: so, sudo -e will work with meta-editors like emacsclient, whereas sudo emacsclient <file> won't
[02:13] <flankk> concept10, isn't it reading directly from the bus?
[02:14] <flankk> concept10, it shows up for Windows, same BIOS settings.
[02:14] <concept10> flankk, yes.  Did you reboot into windows
[02:14] <nikkia> flankk, because it might not actually be a PCI device
[02:14] <Yuki> can anyone tell me what's wrong with this command line: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /
[02:14] <ompaul> I think that this is a bug in the screensaver several hours ago I went out at the start of a 144meg apt-get install Lots_of_files - after all the files were downloaded the screen saver had kicked in, until I came back and shut down the screen saver nothing installed
[02:14] <concept10> nikkia, good point
[02:14] <nikkia> flankk, a lot of older 'onboard audio' were SB compatible chips hanging off a ISA bridge
[02:15] <flankk> concept10, that would be easy.  Windows is no longer on this machine.  i'd like to think linux is better at raw detection of something on the damn pci bus
[02:15] <flankk> nikkia, ah.. that's possible
[02:15] <Chillout> mmh, its a lot of work setting up this ubunto (at least for me as supernoob), but it starts to make fun. i just got it to play may movies with VLC
[02:15] <Chillout> one thing is bothering tho.... the fan on my notebook is working constantly
[02:15] <nikkia> flankk, i'd look at the windows driver, see what 'resources' it lists
[02:16] <bojangles> Red_Tide, well nice looking mobo but you should check with gnu for what hardware can be currently supported with a free bios that we have some control over.
[02:16] <concept10> Yuki, you need to specify a directory to mount to
[02:16] <nikkia> flankk, my gut feeling, on a 440LX, is that it'll be a PnP SB compatible chipset
[02:16] <Moppin> Chillout, I found that ACPI in any linux distro doesn't work as well as Windows does :(
[02:16] <flankk> nikkia, that's not at option, windows is no longer on the box.  i find it dissapointing that i need to use windows to find out hardware specs
[02:16] <Chillout> does that mean that my CPU is running on full speed, eventho i have a athlon xp mobile cpu?
[02:16] <Yuki> concept10, I just want to be able to access the whole partition
[02:17] <concept10> flankk, try the hardware browser
[02:17] <flankk> concept10, okay
[02:17] <Chillout> Moppin: do u know how one can check at what speed the cpu is running?
[02:17] <flankk> concept10, you mean the Device Manager?
[02:17] <monkeyy> what is the default modem port on an ibook any one have any ideas ?
[02:17] <bojangles> Red_Tide, just because it looks good on the outside doesn't mean it is good on the inside
[02:17] <concept10> yeah
[02:18] <nikkia> flankk, alsacfg would be a good thing to try, but its not included in the ubuntu alsa distribution
[02:18] <bojangles> Red_Tide, if you cannot control it with completely free software...you will be in trouble
[02:18] <flankk> nikkia, i've already been around compiling alsa
[02:18] <nikkia> (as alsacfg probes for cards, including SB compatibles on ISA)
[02:18] <flankk> nikkia, good to know, how do i get it?
[02:18] <concept10> Yuki, make a directory to mount to. for example sudo mkdir /media/windows then mount -t ntfs /dev/hdwhatever /media/windows
[02:19] <nalioth> monkeyy: i havnt use a dialup ISP since 2003
[02:19] <nikkia> flankk, its part of either alsa-utils or alsa-tools, i forget which (alsa names, not the ubuntu packages)
[02:19] <Jormundgand> Anyone know a wallpaper cycling tool like the one built into Mac OS X 10.2?
[02:19] <bojangles> Red_Tide, and a lot of people are already buying up all the old dvd hardware because of the talk of putting DRM shit in those future products as well
[02:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> join #dosbox
[02:20] <gotonpo> Jormundgand: i'd like to know of one as well!
[02:20] <flankk> nikkia, i have the newest alsa-utils; i don't follow.
[02:20] <Yuki> concept10, it says that t is an invalid option
[02:20] <concept10> Jormundgand, gotonpo:  Ubuntu had some Ubuntu calendar that did something similar to that
[02:21] <gotonpo> concept10: had? no longer?
[02:21] <concept10> gotonpo, its still around
[02:22] <BuffaloSoldier> how do i set all my icons (in desktop, toolbar & nautilus) to a smaller size?
[02:22] <flankk> nikkia, could you please clarify where i can get alsacfg?
[02:22] <concept10> gotonpo, I know that they were sending out monthly wallpapers but I dont know how that worked.  I know packages are in the repos.  You might want to search the wiki or the forums
[02:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any of you use dosbox?
[02:22] <concept10> Yuki, no success?
[02:22] <nikkia> flankk, i said, its either in alsa-utils or alsa-tools, check also for alsaconfig, as they tend to change the names around randomly
[02:22] <gotonpo> concept10: awesome.. i'll take a look.. thanks!
[02:22] <monkeyy> ChurcH_of_FoamY i do
[02:23] <Yuki> it says: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other erroe
[02:23] <monkeyy> nalioth can i message u
[02:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> monkeyy how the heck do i use this thing? the websites a joke
[02:23] <flankk> nikkia, like i said, i have the newest alsa-utils, and no alsacfg.
[02:23] <nalioth> monkeyy: you can join me in ##apple
[02:23] <nikkia> flankk, then check alsa-tools
[02:23] <flankk> nikkia, no such package
[02:24] <nikkia> flankk, i said it is not packaged
[02:24] <concept10> Yuki, add the mount to /etc/fstab ... have you done that?
[02:24] <nikkia> ubuntu does NOT include alsacfg
[02:24] <flankk> nikkia, clarify yourself please.
[02:24] <Yuki> uh, dunno, how do I do that?
[02:24] <nikkia> flankk, alsacfg is a util that is not packaged in the ubuntu alsa packages
[02:25] <flankk> nikkia, and WHERE do you expect me to find it?
[02:25] <nikkia> i don't know that i can put it any clearer, tbh
[02:25] <nikkia> flankk, from the alsa sources
[02:25] <flankk> wtf?
[02:25] <flankk> nikkia, thank you. you never mentioned alsa sources once.
[02:25] <nikkia> i said that ubuntu doesn't include it, the logical reasoning would be that you have to get it from the original alsa sources
[02:25] <Yuki> concept10, it only gives me sda5, 7, and 6.  It doesn't show the others
[02:26] <flankk> not really, it could be an external project.
[02:26] <nikkia> not if its part of alsa-utils or alsa-tools
[02:26] <concept10> Yuki, what gives you that? fdisk -l ?
[02:26] <nikkia> which are the names of the sub-parts of alsa that are distributed by the alsa people
[02:26] <flankk> nikkia, "alsa names, not the ubuntu packages" is very unclear
[02:26] <Yuki> no, the fstab when I open it in gedit
[02:26] <nikkia> you said you'd 'built the latest alsa from source' so i figured you had looked at what alsa call their source bundles
[02:27] <flankk> but now i see what you meant.
[02:27] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well i tried to use it but it was so bad and slow that i gave up and decided to work on freedos32 instead
[02:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles what's that?
[02:27] <flankk> nikkia, i have the source tree, i have built and installed it, and no alsacfg. this is where the confusion arises.
[02:27] <nikkia> flankk 'the' source tree?
[02:27] <nikkia> there are at least 4
[02:28] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well it is a 32bit dos with a flat memory model that everyone can understand and it can run regular dos applications as well
[02:28] <Yuki> concept10, I used: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and it only shows me those three partitions
[02:28] <flankk> nikkia, s/the/a nitpick
[02:28] <Aerebus> i got something that says i need libsdl in order to run, well i have downloaded SDL-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm how do i install this?
[02:28] <concept10> Yuki, you must add the windows partition to the bottom
[02:28] <dbernar1> Aerebus: did you learn how to install stuff in ubuntu?
[02:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , ok already ya lost me.....all i want to know is
[02:28] <dbernar1> Usually using aptitude install
[02:28] <concept10> Yuki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:28] <dbernar1> then aptitude gets all the dependencies for you.
[02:28] <Aerebus> dbenarl, i started using linux 2 days ago...
[02:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , weather or not it will play the 7th guest and the 11th hour
[02:29] <dbernar1> Only if the package is not available in the ubuntu repos should you go and look for it elsewhere....
[02:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> from cd
[02:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[02:29] <nikkia> and it is in alsa-utils
[02:29] <nikkia> they've just renamed it, again, to alsaconf
[02:29] <concept10> Aerebus, dont use .rpm's unless that is your LAST resort, try to stick with ubuntu .deb packges
[02:29] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well 7th Guest was a favorite program of one of my enemies that worked for IBM called Robert Bayes......so i don't give a damn if it runs 7th Guest
[02:29] <Aerebus> i had to download it from libsdl.org
[02:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok myst?
[02:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> will it run myst?
[02:30] <flankk> nikkia, they renamed -what- to alsaconf? they renamed alsacfg?
[02:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how if it can?
[02:30] <nikkia> flankk, yes
[02:30] <flankk> okay
[02:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have it already just can't figure it out
[02:30] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it is not windows based at all....there are no support windows dlls..
[02:30] <concept10> Aerebus, try this command: apt-cache search libsdl
[02:30] <Aerebus> so do i use "aptitude install SDL-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm
[02:30] <Yuki> concept10, I mounted it successfully, but it says I have insufficient permission to access it
[02:30] <Yuki> concept10, can you help?
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , ok so if it is just dos how do i access the cdrom?
[02:31] <Chillout> hi, how can install java runtime environment on?
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the dos 6.2 comand dosen't work
[02:31] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well that code is being ported now..
[02:32] <flankk> nikkia, happen to have a link?
[02:32] <concept10> Yuki, try this: chmod 555 /dev/whatever
[02:32] <nikkia> flankk, to what?
[02:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , ok so let me get this straight ...it can run doss programs but not access the cd-rom?
[02:32] <flankk> nikkia, the source
[02:32] <trung> how can i read feeds?
[02:32] <concept10> Yuki, I meant sudo chmod
[02:32] <nikkia> flankk: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa/ftp/
[02:33] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, all things have not been ported yet...it is only alpha 0.5
[02:33] <concept10> trung, RSS feeds?
[02:33] <Aerebus> concept10, well.... i have a emulator that says it uses libsdl, and when i type locate libsdl it says that i have it but when i go to double click the executable nothing happens
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , oh ok i get it.....cool
[02:33] <nikkia> flankk, you'll need to build at least alsa-driver and alsa-lib
[02:33] <flankk> nikkia, okay
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , any idea when it will be usable?
[02:33] <concept10> Aerebus, find out which specific libsdl it needs
[02:34] <nikkia> if you don't use the same version as ubuntu, you'll also want to build alsa-oss and all of alsa-utils
[02:34] <Aerebus> concept10, i can cd into the dir the executable is located in and ./program and it starts in a terminal but i know it is a gui based program
[02:34] <nikkia> flankk, another option...
[02:34] <trung> concept10, yes
[02:34] <Yuki> concept10, still not letting me access
[02:34] <concept10> Aerebus, they may have options to run it in a gui
[02:35] <flankk> nikkia, why isn't it included in the ubuntu package?
[02:35] <nikkia> flankk: is to use a live-cd distro that *does* use alsaconf/alsaconfig/alsaconf, such as knoppix, to find out the alsa driver and parameters needed, then feed them into ubuntu's module list
[02:35] <concept10> trung, you may reed RSS feeds in firefox, thunderbird, or download a aggregator
[02:35] <nikkia> as building alsa from source is very possibly going to mess things up
[02:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a program that can access the cd-rom while emulating dos ?
[02:35] <nikkia> flankk: *shrug* i'm not an ubuntu maintainer, so you're asking the wrong person
[02:36] <concept10> Yuki, the line that you added to /etc/fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1                    /mnt/win2k              ntfs            ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[02:36] <flankk> nikkia, or alsacfg..lol why they change it so much? anyways, i'll pop in a knoppix cd
[02:36] <concept10> Yuki, similar
[02:36] <Chillout> how do install sun java?
[02:37] <flankk> !java
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: I just made a wiki on that
[02:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> it's at
[02:37] <Yuki> concept10, ok, I changed it to that, so do I need to umount and then mount again?
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[02:37] <dbernar1> aerebus what is the name of the program/
[02:38] <Chillout> ubotu: ok, ill check that
[02:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Chillout
[02:38] <concept10> unmount command is umount
[02:38] <flankk> lol..
[02:38] <r2d4> Hi! I used to use Suse for a server. Anyone know any YaST like alternatives (curses based UI) for common admin tasks.
[02:38] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: ubotu is a bot
[02:38] <Davey> where the fuck is Amaranth? :)
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu hi
[02:39] <ubotu> hey, church_of_foamy
[02:39] <concept10> Davey, somewhere wondering why you are using foul language
[02:39] <Davey> r2d4: no, but you could try Webmin :)
[02:39] <Davey> concept10: he knows why :)
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu whats up?
[02:39] <ubotu> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ?
[02:39] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: oooh, i thx. didnt get it.
[02:40] <r2d4> Davey: OK! thanks.
[02:40] <concept10> Yuki, sorry umount the drive and save your /etc/fstab - and then run mount -a       and that mounts everything in /etc/fstab
[02:41] <Yuki> ok tyty
[02:41] <Davey> don't umount your / partition
[02:41] <Davey> that would be bad :)
[02:42] <Davey> so, has anyone got a way to decrypt my iTunes music?
[02:42] <Jormundgand> Aaaargh.
[02:43] <Jormundgand> I've found a project called gdchange on Sourceforge.
[02:43] <Jormundgand> It requires the FAM daemon.
[02:43] <Jormundgand> But the FAM daemon package requires me to remove everything for some package called "portmap".
[02:43] <medgno> Jormundgand, gamin in the new 'fam' daemon
[02:44] <brunont> Need some help. I installed winXP on my second HD(hdd2), but it seems like the win loader was installed on my first HD(hdb2). Now I installed ubuntu(hdd1) and grub had a option to the win loader. The problem is that I formatted hdb, and cant load win anymore!
[02:44] <Yuki> concept10, it worked!  thanks!
[02:44] <Yuki> concept10, also, Konqueror tends to close and have errors...is there another file browser I can use?
[02:44] <Jormundgand> medgno: ?
[02:45] <fsghost> Yuki, have you closed the Konqueror side panel?
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> Yuki: nautilus
[02:45] <brunont> Any idea?
[02:45] <concept10> Yuki, np. I use GNOME and I dont use Konqueror anymore even though it is nice.  But Nautilus in GNOME crashes sometimes also
[02:46] <Yuki> concept10, so how do I fix it?
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> brunont: you can add an item to your /boot/grub/menu.lst for windows
[02:46] <flankk> brunont, you formatted the partition with windows too? that was probably more of a blessing than mistake.
[02:46] <G|immer> d4x gives Segmentation Fault. I installed it from repos. Can that be fixed?!
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> !paste
[02:46] <ubotu> [paste]  ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[02:46] <G|immer> sounds like a memory error?!
[02:47] <concept10> Yuki, no idea on that since I dont use Konq.  You should search bug reports and/or submit one
[02:47] <Yuki> concept10, okay thanks a lot, everything seems fine now
[02:47] <brunont> flankk, no I can still access my win partition from ubuntu... its on hdd2
[02:48] <Jormundgand> medgno: your sentence did not make sense.
[02:48] <concept10> Yuki, now help brunont mount his partition :)
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/310272 brunont-- this is what my windows entry in menu.lst looks like.  Adjust for the proper partition
[02:48] <medgno> Jormundgand, sorry, the package gamin is the new daemon that provides fam functionality
[02:48] <Jormundgand> Ah.
[02:48] <Jormundgand> Okay.
[02:48] <tiglionabbit> dinner time
[02:49] <brunont> tiglionabbit: i tried rootnoverify (hd1,1).... isnt working
[02:49] <asimismo> Getting an error on boot: "Engine: Unable to open the control node for Device-Mapper.  The Engine will run without Device-Mapper support." Anyone got any ideas what I need to do?
[02:49] <Yuki> brunount, what are you trying to do?
[02:49] <brunont> concept10: i can mount and access the partition from ubuntu.... but now i need to load win!
[02:50] <Dr_Willis>  /me wonders if brunont 's windows is even still there.
[02:50] <Yuki> LOL
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> you just swaped the drives that windows was installed to?  added a new one and moved windows drive to a diffent ide cable connection?
[02:51] <brunont> i had win2000 at hdb2, then i installed a new HD and installed winXP at hdd2
[02:51] <brunont> and then i installed ubuntu at hdd1
[02:51] <concept10> brunont, GRUB doesnt load it?
[02:51] <brunont> and formatted hdb(1 and 2)
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. no hda at all eh?
[02:51] <brunont> doesnt!
[02:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> The reverse side also has a reverse side.
[02:52] <overture> anyone here use cygwin?
[02:52] <concept10> brunont, I did the same thing you did a couple of weeks back
[02:52] <Jormundgand> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[02:52] <Jormundgand> configure: error: required library missing
[02:52] <Jormundgand> Which package provides this? This is so cryptic ><
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> overture,  i have a little here and there.
[02:52] <brunont> dr_willis no, dont know why, but i left it slave
[02:52] <harris|u> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[02:52] <harris|u>        Macromedia Flash Player installer
[02:52] <harris|u> Grrr.
[02:53] <overture> im trying to get a windows client to backup its data to ubuntu server using rsync on cygwin
[02:53] <brunont> concept10: what u did?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> harris|u,  yep. :() thats why i am still running the 32 bit ubuntu.
[02:53] <concept10> brunont, You need to repair the MBR on the drive with windows on it.
[02:53] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it is already bootable and can run a bash shell...so for developers it is already quite useful
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> overture,  cant say that ive ever done that sorry.
[02:53] <concept10> brunont, do you have windows and linux on the same drive?
[02:53] <overture> except, if i try to transfer a directory with more than 5 files in it, it crashes
[02:53] <Chillout> hi there anyone knows how i can stop the notebook fan to run all the time with ubuntu?
[02:53] <overture> to the point that the windows machine has to be hard reset
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> overture,  Ugh.
[02:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , oh ok well i'm not a developer O_o i an't that smart with linux O_o
[02:54] <concept10> Chillout, reduce your processor frequency if you have a scalable processor
[02:54] <brunont> concept10: yes, now my hdb is blank.... and hdd is: hdd1 ubuntu, hdd2 winxp, hdd5(not sure) for personal data!
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Chillout,  Hmmm rephrase that... perhaps.. and it will be worth wile to google for that specific brand of laptop and linux support for it.
[02:55] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well i suppose not everyone understands all the intricate details of NUMA code in GNU/Linux....that is why many prefer the flat memory model of DOS32
[02:55] <brunont> concept10: any idea how can i repair the mbr for win?
[02:55] <Chillout> concept10: yes i have a scalable, its an amd athlon cp 2600+. but a) how do i reduce the it b) no other way, coz this will slow the system down!?
[02:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , is there any program you know of that can run dos games from the cd rom?
[02:56] <concept10> brunont, all I can tell you is that it is a pain in the ass to mess with boot loaders. (at least to me) See you have to rewrite or repair the windows MBR, and then reinstall grub. I will give you some links
[02:56] <ubuntu> How do I get the mousewheel to work on my compaq laptop?
[02:56] <Chillout> concept10: actually this cpu monitor shows me the cpu running @ 529 MHz. which is already the lowest possible.
[02:56] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes...there is already freedos...and it can read cdroms perfectly
[02:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , if it can play games then can you tell me how to get it? ^_^
[02:57] <concept10> Chillout, how do you have your laptop positioned? I always prop mine up in the back so it can get some air and the fans cycle down when the load goes down
[02:57] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, just go download it...it is free....as in free....what is the problem?
[02:57] <brunont> concept10: thanks, will wait!
[02:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , was just looking for a prog to run old dos games offa cd's
[02:58] <bojangles> here
[02:58] <concept10> brunont, http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm
[02:58] <bojangles> http://www.freedos.org/
[02:58] <aris_> the anjuta setup in hoary seems broken
[02:58] <concept10> brunont, listen to this
[02:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles ,Thanx man ^_^
[02:59] <thenostradamus> is apt-get remove the cleanest way to uninstall programs?
[02:59] <concept10> brunont, you have to understand what you have to do.  Let me make it clear.  I cant goto through this one with you.
[02:59] <aris_> can you compile projects with anjuta ?
[02:59] <Chillout> concept10: it stands normally on my desk. as i said, the cup freq is @ minimum most of the time. tho the fan runs and the air coming out is not hot at all.
[03:00] <concept10> brunont, You have to 1) Repair windows MBR   2)  Boot your system with a Live CD  3) Mount your drive and chroot into your system  4) reinstall or repair grub                   So basically you need to look up that information.  I gave you number one
[03:01] <concept10> Chillout, im not sure about your system.    You want the fans to completely cut off or cycle down?
[03:02] <Chillout> bruno10: but my harddrive seems to get unusually hot with ubunto! maybe that is the reason for the fan going. is a hot harddrive a known issue? can i check somehow if ubunto handles the harddrive in the right way?
[03:02] <Chillout> concept10: but my harddrive seems to get unusually hot with ubunto! maybe that is the reason for the fan going. is a hot harddrive a known issue? can i check somehow if ubunto handles the harddrive in the right way?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. its possible the hd is not spinning down when not needed.
[03:02] <flankk> Chillout, maybe you gave your computer something to think about :|
[03:02] <brunont> concept10: a HD only have 1 MBR or it has 1 for each partition?
[03:03] <Chillout> Dr_Willis: how do i make it spin down?
[03:03] <concept10> Chillout, hot harddrive is not a Ubuntu issue AFAIK
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Chillout,  problem with it spinning down.. is that its slow to start back up  when ya need it.
[03:04] <flankk> Chillout, lower the current xD check your ACPI settings
[03:04] <brunont> cause if I recover the win MBR and the reinstall grub, isnt it goint to erase the win information again??
[03:04] <concept10> brunont, a HD has only one MBR, see your problem is probably that GRUB didnt recognize your windows boot information
[03:04] <Chillout> Dr_Willis: clear. still how can set the spin down props?
[03:05] <Chillout> flankk: sorry, this linus/ubuntu is all new to me. i dont understand what u mean.
[03:05] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it also supports the old sound blaster cards very well for your old dos stuff
[03:06] <concept10> brunont, well dont rewrite the MBR just use that guide to fix your NTLDR
[03:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles ,sweet ^_^ downloading it now Tjnx
[03:06] <bojangles> ChurcH_of_FoamY, but you do need to configure autoexec.bat and config.sys for your hardware
[03:06] <concept10> brunont, look ar that guide I gave you. Scroll down to where it says Fixing boot problems
[03:06] <flankk> Chillout, did you touch your harddrive? how do you know it's hot? lmao If it is reading a lot and the drive spins up, it's probably because you have a swap partition on the same drive as your root partition.  Sometimes the is -really- noticable on old harddrives
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bojangles , oh shit realy? i forgot how to do that >.<
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> goes to read the website
[03:08] <dryad> Hello. Earlier I was recommended to convert my NTFS partitions into FAT32 before installing Ubuntu. I have done so on a 1gb partition of mine now, without any problems. Now I'm trying to perform the same task on a ~170gb large partition, however, my system reboots while creating the index
[03:10] <bccs> can FAT handle 170gb?
[03:10] <jasoncohen> dryad, that's because the maximum partition size of fat32 is around 2 GB
[03:10] <brunont> concept10: Hmm, im going to try... copy ntldr, ntdetected (I think its still there), and then fixboot
[03:10] <jasoncohen> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/partCluster-c.html
[03:10] <flankk> bccs, NO lol
[03:10] <underline> i think fat32 do not handle 170gb
[03:10] <underline> :P
[03:10] <jasoncohen> 2,047.69 MB is the max
[03:10] <tiglionabbit> ok I'm back
[03:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm , That diden't help much >.<
[03:10] <dryad> jasoncohen, thats funny - people in here said that they had 500gb fat32 partitions
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> I have a 60gb fat32 partition
[03:11] <concept10> brunont, try the fixboot first
[03:11] <dryad> I thought fat16 was limited to 2gb
[03:11] <hondje> that don't make sense
[03:11] <brunont> ok.
[03:11] <hondje> I have an mp3 player, and it's 20 gigs and fat
[03:11] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, oh, so what's the limit on fat32?
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: no idea, I didn't know there was one
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just gives some software comands but dosen't tell anything usefull to my situation
[03:12] <bccs> better google on that issue
[03:12] <dryad> I am
[03:12] <brunont> i think that fixboot will be enough.... and mantaining my MBR with a call to root (hd1,1) is going to work...
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> brunont: hd1,1 is hdb2
[03:13] <brunont> my MBR with GRUB that will call the win boot sector at hdb2!
[03:13] <brunont> isnt it?
[03:13] <concept10> bbl
[03:13] <jasoncohen>  FAT32 supports partitions up to 2 TB (that's terrabytes, 2000 GB or 2,000,000 MB).
[03:13] <jasoncohen> http://members.aol.com/don5408/drivespace/part_fat32.html
[03:13] <jasoncohen> guess i was just off by a few 0s
[03:14] <dryad> heh
[03:14] <brunont> fixboot will not change my MBR, right?
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> brunont: to make sure you have the right partition there, use 'sudo fdisk -l' to list your partitions
[03:14] <dryad> oh well, then it doesn't make any sence why partition magic is doing this :/
[03:14] <jasoncohen> dryad, i guess it should work then
[03:14] <nalioth> jasoncohen: and files of only 4gb
[03:14] <jasoncohen> that's a pretty small file limit
[03:14] <nalioth> jasoncohen: yes, it sux
[03:14] <jasoncohen> my average mythtv file is 3.3
[03:14] <brunont> ok, thanks everybody..... bye bye...
[03:14] <jasoncohen> i had a 12 GB one for a moive
[03:14] <jasoncohen> with XFS
[03:15] <dryad> I have 4,5gb large files on the disk
[03:15] <harris|u> how 2 burn an iso to a cd? ;o
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> brunont: get anything wrking?
[03:16] <rendi> hi guys
[03:16] <rendi> i'm stuck with this
[03:16] <nalioth> harris|u: use k3b or gnomebaker or graveman
[03:16] <rendi> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatchE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> harris|u: use k3b for linux, or alchohol120 or nero for windows
[03:16] <rendi> any help for me
[03:16] <bojangles_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what do you mean you gave it commands...did you already install it
[03:16] <nalioth> rendi: have you --fixed-missing?
[03:16] <harris|u> thanks.
[03:16] <rendi> done
[03:16] <jasoncohen> harris|u, in nautilus right click on the iso and choose burn cd
[03:16] <rendi> i have that
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> rendi: remove "us." from that repository name
[03:16] <bojangles_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, on a spare partition or something
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> rendi: the US repositories are messed up at the moment
[03:16] <rendi> ic
[03:16] <rendi> wait i will try
[03:16] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[03:16] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:17] <jasoncohen> harris|u, actually it would be "write to cd"
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> that guide will tell you how to change it
[03:17] <nalioths_dog> rendi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:17] <harris|u> jasoncohen,  nautilus? sorry, i'm new to ubuntu
[03:17] <TokenBad> so much for asking in cedega channel about my problem...no one said anything in there in the last hour
[03:17] <nalioth> harris|u: your file manager
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> nautilus is gnome's file browser
[03:17] <harris|u> new = been using it for all of 10 minutes
[03:17] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, tell them to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:17] <harris|u> okay, thanks
[03:17] <nalioth> harris|u: applications > system tools > file manager
[03:17] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, it should be quite easy to follow now
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  heh - i seem to be banned from #cedega - and ive never even been in there.
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I already had ubotu print that out
[03:18] <bojangles_> Dr_Willis, well so what i get banned everywhere
[03:18] <jasoncohen> harris|u, nautilus is gnome's file manager
[03:18] <nalioth> jasoncohen: love the "job well done attitude" heh
[03:18] <ed1t> hello nalioth
[03:18] <nalioth> ed1t: howdy
[03:18] <jasoncohen> nalioth, heh
[03:19] <nalioth> Razor-X: are you here? did you get transcode up and running?
[03:19] <TokenBad> Dr_Willis, you on the right network?
[03:19] <TokenBad> its not on this one
[03:20] <TokenBad> nevermind
[03:20] <TokenBad> yes it is
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:20] <TokenBad> #cedega
[03:20] <TokenBad> oops
[03:20] <eskaypey> hi how do i give permision to normal user to write in locked folder?
[03:20] <ubuntu> do you know which one i need?  http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[03:20] <nalioth> eskaypey: do YOU want to write to the folder?
[03:20] <jtgameover> eskaypey, something like sudo chmod a+w foldername
[03:20] <ubuntu> there's two linux files.
[03:21] <nalioths_dog> ubuntu: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[03:21] <eskaypey> is there the way to do it from gui?
[03:21] <TokenBad> Dr_Willis, don't seem like they can help or want to help in there anyway
[03:21] <eskaypey> nalioth: yes
[03:21] <nalioth> eskaypey: not easily
[03:21] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: is that really the best method of getting java?
[03:21] <nalioth> eskaypey: you'd have to open a gui file mangler as root, which can mess up your setting really really badly
[03:22] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: it worked for me the way I put in my guide
[03:22] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: that method was written by seveas
[03:22] <eskaypey> ahh.. well i need to copy lik 20 files
[03:22] <eskaypey> like*
[03:22] <nalioth> eskaypey: TO the dir?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  i alwyas use the cedega message boards and forums and wiki's
[03:22] <eskaypey> yep
[03:22] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu new is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:22] <tiglionabbit> ubotu new is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:22] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[03:22] <nalioth> eskaypey: you are not familiar with the terminal?
[03:23] <nalioth> !newusers
[03:23] <ubotu> well, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:23] <TokenBad> I have asked in there as well
[03:23] <TokenBad> no one responded
[03:23] <jtgameover> !pizza
[03:23] <ubotu> jtgameover: I haven't a clue
[03:23] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: why the "new"?
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget new
[03:23] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot new
[03:23] <eskaypey> nalioth: well i know basic commands just dunno how to go with this one
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: I forgot what word we were using for it
[03:23] <Velcan> Heya. Trying to get my wireless pcmcia dev to work? D-Link DLW-G630 -- It actually shows up in the device manager (and goes away / returns if I am to remove and reinsert it) but the device itself does not come on, including no power indicating lights.
[03:24] <nalioth> eskaypey: its much safer to do it in the terminal (opening gui apps as root is not a nice thing)
[03:25] <ameoba> when you do a "server" install, it says it installs "just the base system" - what all does that actually entail?
[03:25] <tiglionabbit> ameoba: basic text-mode gnu stuff
[03:25] <nalioth> a complete X-less system
[03:26] <rendi> !whisky
[03:26] <ubotu> rendi: I give up, what is it?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. MS has a "shared computer resource toolkit" looks like they are tryng to get it where one can actually LOCKDOWN and secure an xp machine.. Lol..
[03:26] <nalioth> ameoba: a server install will allow you to check email, browse the web, produce text documents, etc
[03:26] <ameoba> are we talking "no manpages" minimal or "only one version of emacs" minimal?
[03:27] <harris|u> nalioth, When right clicking -> write to CD -- I get "There was an error writing to the CD:
[03:27] <harris|u> The system is too slow to write the CD at this speed. Try a lower speed." Even when I tried writing a 1x -- Is this common?
[03:27] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: want to bet, they back-burner it, too?
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> ameoba: no emacs, but all the man pages
[03:27] <nalioth> harris|u: what hardware do you have?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  they force ya to regiester to install it.. then they force you to validate yoru windows copy.. again.. (and that failed because firefox is my default browser)
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> I just want to prevent the kids from breaking xp again! :P
[03:27] <harris|u> nalioth, a643200+, 1gig 3200+ OCZ ram, AMD 9800 PRO, 80gig WD Raptor
[03:28] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: <tears tears> failed invalidation...horrors!
[03:28] <harris|u> nalioth,  the burner is sony
[03:28] <eskaypey> nalioth: can you tell me how i can do that?
[03:28] <nalioth> harris|u: i'd install k3b
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  yea - they are getting VERY overboard on the validate everything wagon.
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> unless you like tasty baked gnomes
[03:28] <nalioth> eskaypey: open a terminal and type "man cp" for a  overview of what you want to do
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> Thank you for using the Windows Genuine Advantage program. You may now access resources for genuine Windows users.
[03:29] <harris|u> nalioth,  okay -- I'm REALLY new, how do I install it if you don't mind :x
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Guess this way they can allow piracy - and still sort of be anti-piracy :P
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> Dr_Willis: oh no, I'm actually a Linux user in disguise!
[03:29] <nalioth> harris|u: System > Admin > Synaptic Package Mangler
[03:29] <nalioth> harris|u: search for 'k3b'
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> tiglionabbit,  they will come and get you!
[03:29] <Velcan> Is there anything that has to be done to activate a pcmcia device
[03:29] <harris|u> okay
[03:30] <pmai> hm
[03:30] <nalioth> guys, i have very dark secret...
[03:30] <nalioth> this irssi is running on a remote OSX box
[03:30] <pmai> "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///mnt/videon~1/chen~1.mpg", you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: so?
[03:30] <bccs> hey
[03:30] <bccs> Why is it so important to keep backports commented??
[03:30] <nalioth> pmai: that is not a stream
[03:30] <pmai> when i opened mp3, .mpg with totem
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> pmai: you need some codecs
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[03:31] <ubotu> I guess newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[03:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <nalioth> bccs: b/c there are version discrepancys that can break your upgradeability
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> pmai: read those wikis and they should explain it to you
[03:31] <bccs> tiglionabbit, good wiki NewUbuntuUsers
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> thank you, I wrote it myself
[03:32] <jasoncohen> damn- installing a new kernel is easy. sudo apt-get install linux-686 linux-headers-686 installed kernel headers, linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and linux-restricted-modules-686 so i didn't have to even re-install the madwifi or nvidia drivers because they were installed from restricted modules- very nice indeed!
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> bccs: well, there have been a few issues where backports has broken dependencies, making it hard to install certain packages.  However, I believe those are all currently resolved, so you don't really have to comment it at the moment
[03:33] <Velcan> Is anyone in here familiar with setting up pcmcia wireless cards, or could someone direct me to a room where I might have better luck?
[03:34] <jasoncohen> bccs, for example, up until a few days ago konversation 0.18 from backports depended on KDE 3.4.1 libraries preventing kubuntu-desktop from being installed unless you forced the hoary version of konversation. i posted this issue on the backports forum and mez fixed it the same day
[03:34] <Aerebus> I'm having a problem with my updater in ubuntu and also something are not apt-get'in properly i.e. md5 checksum mismatches can someone help me fix this?
[03:34] <jasoncohen> once backports goes official we'll begin seeing less of these problems
[03:34] <pmai> tiglionabbit, i got it
[03:34] <nalioth> Aerebus: the repos are wonky
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> bccs: here's the forum thread if you wanted to read about it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37736
[03:34] <AV8> hi..i m having problem connecting msn messenger on gaim...what can i do? yahoo is working fine on it though its just msn....and how can i update my version of gaim??
[03:34] <nalioths_dog> Aerebus: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:34] <nalioths_dog> Aerebus: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:34] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, make sure you're not using us.archive repositories- use the default
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> AV8: msn messenger goes down frequently.  Usually you can assume that it's MSN's problem.  You can ask on #gaim, too
[03:35] <nalioth> Aerebus: follow the dogs advice, and you'll be fixed up
[03:35] <ubuntu> where are some videos that ubuntu can play?
[03:35] <ubuntu> i have ubuntu live cd.
[03:35] <ubuntu> 5.04 intel x86
[03:35] <nalioth> ubuntu: you are on liveCD NOW?
[03:35] <ubuntu> yes
[03:36] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: you probably have the "us" repositories.  We know they are not working right now.  The sources list nalioth gave you should work
[03:36] <nalioth> ubuntu: then google for mpg, as i think thats all you can play from the livecd
[03:36] <ubuntu> okthx
[03:36] <AV8> how about updating the latest version whats the command to do that???
[03:36] <tiglionabbit> AV8: actually, I can connect to msn on gaim right no, so it's not down
[03:36] <AV8> damm
[03:36] <jasoncohen> nalioth, lol...well you can install stuff on the live cd
[03:37] <AV8> it was working fine on msn messenger in windows...i was online for like an hour or so...
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> AV8: you can use synaptic's Update button, or the update manager that appears in the notification area (system tray thingy).  Or you can say sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the newest of everything, at console
[03:37] <nalioth> jasoncohen: how long is ubuntu gonna keep his livecd operating?
[03:37] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i've actually done it- i installed libdvdcss2, w32codecs and some gstreamer plugins- not fast- but it works
[03:37] <AV8> thanks
[03:37] <AV8> :)
[03:37] <nalioth> jasoncohen: you've raised another point i need to make
[03:38] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i'm just saying- if you want to see if some multimedia codec works you can always install the package you need....and learn how to use synaptic at the same time with absolutely no danger of messing up your system
[03:38] <jasoncohen> live-cd is kind of like a safe learning zone
[03:38] <Aerebus> nalioth, when i open synaptic and click repos i see that lis tpopup but it goes poof
[03:38] <jasoncohen> nalioth, what point was that?
[03:39] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, poof?
[03:39] <b_e_n_z> anyone using sablevm on ubuntu?
[03:39] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i'll make in in -nun or the newusersnetworkguidelines
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[03:39] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: make sure you check the box to show disabled repositories.  That guide has a screenshot
[03:39] <Aerebus> disappears.... comes up refreshes and closes
[03:39] <harris|u> what IS a repository? ;o
[03:39] <Aerebus> i cant get to the box lol
[03:40] <nalioth> Aerebus: your synaptic is just refreshing its source list
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> harris|u: a repository is a place on the net where you can get .deb packages from
[03:40] <Aerebus> it opens refreshes and closes
[03:40] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, hitting preferences kills synaptic?
[03:40] <Aerebus> yep
[03:40] <harris|u> thanks tiglionabbit :)
[03:40] <Aerebus> no i'm in preferences
[03:40] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, you sure it's not just refreshing
[03:40] <nalioth> Aerebus: time for terminal
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=91
[03:40] <jasoncohen> did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto?
[03:40] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, so you enabled "show disabled software sources" and hit OK
[03:41] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, and then what happened?
[03:41] <Aerebus> ok
[03:41] <Aerebus> i opened synaptic
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> harris|u: apt keeps a list of them in /etc/apt/sources.list, and gets things from those when you command it to using apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic
[03:41] <Aerebus> clicke don settings
[03:41] <Aerebus> then repos
[03:41] <Aerebus> a box pops up
[03:41] <dbernar1> sure does
[03:41] <jasoncohen> ok...and
[03:42] <Aerebus> the one i'm supposed to make that checkmark in (although i think i've already done that) the box refreshes itself or synaptic and then closes, i never get the chance to do anything
[03:42] <nalioth> Aerebus: close synaptic
[03:42] <Aerebus> closed
[03:42] <nalioth> Aerebus: open a terminal please
[03:42] <dbernar1> that happens for some reason, I had the same thing...
[03:43] <Aerebus> open as root
[03:43] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, open a terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <nalioth> Aerebus: nope
[03:43] <dbernar1> without sudo, since you are root,.
[03:43] <Aerebus> terminal open
[03:43] <jasoncohen> won't matter actually
[03:43] <dbernar1> ah, true:)
[03:43] <dbernar1> do what jasoncohen said
[03:43] <nalioth> "root terminal" is a holdover from debian, i believe and using it on ubuntu can confuse the system imho
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: why don't you advise them to do applications -> run application, and type in gksudo gedit?
[03:44] <jasoncohen> sudo -s to get a "root" terminal
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: are you sure about that?
[03:44] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: why don't you?
[03:44] <dbernar1> tiglionabbit: same thing.
[03:44] <dbernar1> bah
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> yeah but it's easier for gui people
[03:44] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: discovery is fun
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> heh, well it's what I put in my guide
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[03:44] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:44] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, ok, you want to change the current URL to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[03:44] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i was gonna take Aerebus down the 'nano' road
[03:44] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, basically remove the us
[03:45] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: oo, fun times
[03:45] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: your guide is a community guide
[03:45] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, and same with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu - remove the us if there is one
[03:45] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: community meaning it's not mine because I link too many places, in a good way in that it's okay to keep plugging it?
[03:45] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, do that for all lines that have us in them and then save and quit. you can then sudo apt-get update
[03:46] <Hunch> Hello
[03:46] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: you're a community member now
[03:46] <nalioth> howdy, hunch
[03:46] <jasoncohen> you are contributing to a community project. it's not "yours"
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: =}
[03:46] <jasoncohen> it's ours
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: hey.  I wrote it though
[03:47] <ed1t> !newusers
[03:47] <ubotu> newusers is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[03:47] <ed1t> hmm
[03:47] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, the entire thing/
[03:47] <ed1t> !commands
[03:47] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ed1t
[03:47] <ed1t> !help
[03:47] <ed1t> heh
[03:47] <Aerebus> this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/464
[03:47] <Aerebus> good?
[03:48] <jasoncohen> yes, but what's with the #'s on blank lines?
[03:48] <Aerebus> someone had me copy theirs...
[03:48] <nalioth> jasoncohen: those lines are commented out
[03:48] <ed1t> Aerebus, heres the official ubuntu sources http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/38
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: yep.  You can comment out your CD too, if you have fast enough internet and don't want to carry it around with you
[03:49] <ed1t> 39 mayve
[03:49] <ed1t> maybe*
[03:49] <nalioth> Aerebus: tiglionabbit has a point
[03:49] <jasoncohen> nalioth, so, it's just weird line cut-offs
[03:49] <jasoncohen> well, there is a problem then
[03:49] <jasoncohen> nalioth, if those lines are commented out he has no security or updates source
[03:49] <nalioth> jasoncohen: they don't affect anything
[03:49] <ed1t> wat happened to paste 38?
[03:50] <ed1t> oops its .nl
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[03:50] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:50] <nalioth> jasoncohen: all his lines are good
[03:50] <ed1t> there
[03:50] <ed1t> !topic add
[03:50] <nalioth> Aerebus: good to go, close up gedit, and reload your synaptic
[03:50] <jasoncohen> nalioth, so, nothing is commented out except the # lines...so he commented out nothing?
[03:50] <nalioth> ed1t: what the devil are you doing?
[03:50] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <Aerebus> nalioth can i just use http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/38 as my sources.list? i.e. highlight everything comments and all and just paste http://paste.ubuntulinux.com/38 into it?
[03:50] <cleber> be carefull
[03:50] <nalioth> jasoncohen: or whomever sent him the list
[03:51] <ed1t> heh nothing...im just checking ubotu around
[03:51] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes, you can back up the list you have and use the nl one as is
[03:51] <nalioth> ed1t: he's around
[03:51] <Velcan> Can anyone help me setup a pcmcia wireless card
[03:51] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, yeah, you can
[03:51] <ed1t> lol
[03:51] <jasoncohen> Aerebus, any idea why you have blank lines commented out?
[03:52] <nalioth> jasoncohen: Aerebus said he'd been sent that list in that form from another user
[03:52] <bccs> hey, what's the best File Sharing app?
[03:52] <nalioth> bccs: for what?
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> bccs: there are many different ways of filesharing
[03:53] <bccs> video, music...
[03:53] <bccs> like soulseek
[03:53] <gotonpo> get nicotine if you like soulseek
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> bccs: it depends on the network you're interested in.  There is a linux soulseek port, I think it's called nicotine
[03:54] <nalioth> we only share legal stuff, tho
[03:54] <bccs> is there a imesh cliente for linux? do you guys know any?
[03:54] <nalioth> heh
[03:54] <nalioth> bccs, you might have fun at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <jinx> imesh, lol
[03:54] <jasoncohen> nalioth, all a user has to do is uncomment all the deb lines- or to check off a few boxes and hit reload in synaptic? what's the point of users sharing sources.list files?
[03:54] <nalioth> bccs: if you have no luck there, try sourceforge.net
[03:55] <bccs> nalioth, tks, 'll try that now
[03:55] <nalioth> jasoncohen: perhaps Aerebus was being helped by someone else?
[03:55] <Aerebus> i'm here
[03:55] <jinx> nalioth, cool, sourceforge.net now has video and music?
[03:55] <Aerebus> just making sure i dont foul up
[03:56] <nalioth> jinx: no, sourceforge has linux apps running out its orifices
[03:56] <FlannelKing> no jinx, he was talking about for apps
[03:57] <Aerebus> i think its fixed :)
[03:58] <ed1t> how do i install tcl? is it apt-get install tcl?
[03:58] <x2l2> who is breezy?
[03:58] <ed1t> !tcl
[03:58] <ubotu> I don't know, ed1t
[03:58] <nalioth> ed1t: did you search using synaptic?
[03:58] <ed1t> yea i searched for tcl
[03:58] <nalioth> ed1t: its !info tcl
[03:58] <x2l2> what is brezzy ?.P
[03:58] <ed1t> !info tcl
[03:58] <jessetyler> Whoa, 464 people. XD
[03:58] <nalioth> x2l2: breezy is the next version of ubuntu
[03:59] <nalioth> !good bot
[03:59] <ubotu> thanks nalioth :)
[03:59] <x2l2> Nakkel, thanks
[03:59] <nalioth> wtf
[03:59] <nalioth> !info tcl-tk
[03:59] <x2l2> but.. its don go out on 3 months ...
[03:59] <nalioth> x2l2: and?
[03:59] <jessetyler> Anyone recommend any good games for linux? >_>
[04:00] <spanglesontoast> is it true what I've been hearing about ubuntu?
[04:00] <Ahab> what are the merits/differences between totem-gstreamer vs. totem-xine?  the reason I ask is I was reading the xine website and it talks about playing real audio/video files.  try as I might I can't get real to work at all.  I tried using the installer from within synaptic and then just then simply the instructions of the real website.  At worst, the program started and then died (I couldn't even get a terminal afterwards!), at best I click
[04:00] <Ahab> ed on it's menu in the gnome panel and it did nothing.  So can can totem-xine fit the bill for me?  Or is there a compelling reason the folks at Canonical chose totem-gstreamer?
[04:00] <nalioth> jessetyler: enable your universe and multiverse repos and you'll find a potload of games of all kinds
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: that depends what you've been hearing.  If you've heard it's awesome, then yes
[04:00] <spanglesontoast> lol
[04:00] <Ahab> Sorry for the massive amount of text:)
[04:00] <spanglesontoast> I mean't the ubuntu foundation
[04:00] <jessetyler> I did. :p I was just wondering if there are any specific good games. :p
[04:00] <Kumasan> does the Ubuntu kernel in Breezy come with inotify enabled?
[04:01] <nalioth> jessetyler: that is a ford or chevy question
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> jessetyler: there is a list of them on ubuntuforums
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> there's a link to that list in my wiki
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[04:01] <ubotu> somebody said newusers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:02] <jessetyler> I'm such an idiot sometimes. :p I forget to check the forums. :p
[04:02] <spanglesontoast> is there anything in the reposabout podcasting?
[04:02] <Velcan> How bout this ... Any graphically advanced games designed to run on Linux? :D
[04:02] <BlackWolf> i just installed ubuntu and can not access the root i didn't set a password can anyone tell me wat it is by default
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> BlackWolf:
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[04:02] <ubotu> I heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:02] <nalioth> jessetyler: you can use synaptic and view by section (at bottom left) to look at all the games
[04:02] <Kumasan> BlackWolf: don't use root, use sudo
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> !rootsudo
[04:02] <ubotu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:02] <nalioth> !sudo
[04:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:02] <bccs> BlackWolf, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:03] <FlannelKing> Velcan, There are tons, both commercial and not, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory has a native linux version
[04:03] <bccs> BlackWolf, will help you a lot
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> will the foundation not affect us users?
[04:03] <bccs> BlackWolf, by tiglionabbit
[04:03] <jessetyler> o_o
[04:03] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: only to our benefi
[04:03] <nalioth> t
[04:03] <rob^> tiglionabbit, nuu is just replicating info already in the wiki, whats the point of it?
[04:03] <BlackWolf> thanks
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> rob^: what?
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> oks
[04:03] <Jesse1> can some1 show me how to install my canon i250 printer
[04:03] <rob^> sudo for example..
[04:04] <spanglesontoast> i hate resolutions in ubuntu
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> rob^: it has a list of things new users should know
[04:04] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i got rob^'s question
[04:04] <spanglesontoast> i may reboot into ubuntu in a moment
[04:05] <Velcan> Anyone here be able to help me with my wireless card problems?
[04:05] <ed1t> hey guys, can i put my own bot in here?
[04:05] <ed1t> Velcan, wat wireless card is it?
[04:05] <nalioth> ed1t: not advised
[04:05] <Velcan> DLW-G630
[04:05] <Velcan> not listed :(
[04:05] <Jesse1> can some1 show me how to install my canon i250 printer?
[04:05] <Velcan> but it shows up in the dev amn
[04:05] <ed1t> k
[04:05] <Velcan> man
[04:05] <asimismo> Anybody know why I wouldn't be able to open the control node for Device-Mapper on boot?
[04:06] <Velcan> its just doesnt appear to have any power
[04:06] <nalioths_dog> Jesse1: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[04:06] <rob^> nalioths_dog, otherwise people will repeat the same answer in here..
[04:07] <nalioth> rob^: ya get those /notices?
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> rob^: the purpose of my guide is to put all of the most frequently asked questions in one place, so people who are new to the distro can easily find their answers.  I am not replicating information, but instead linking to quality guides already available for these topics
[04:07] <SDFH_Linux> does ubuntu pick up wireless cards?
[04:07] <SDFH_Linux> automatically?
[04:07] <rob^> umm.. faq anyone?
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> SDFH_Linux: it worked for mine
[04:07] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: please be more specific
[04:07] <Kumasan> Jesse1: <http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22870.htm>  first result upon googling for canon i250 ubuntu
[04:07] <rob^> that is the purpose of one
[04:08] <Velcan> Even if I am to remove and readd the device from the pcmcia slot the dev man removes and readds it to the list
[04:08] <SDFH_Linux> netgear wg511 pcmia card would it pick that up?
[04:08] <Velcan> yes
[04:08] <SDFH_Linux> yes?
[04:08] <Velcan> that one was on their list but mine isnt :(
[04:09] <SDFH_Linux> yay
[04:09] <asimismo> See, I can't boot. Because of the Device-Mapper is unopenable. And I don't know why.
[04:09] <Velcan> :P
[04:09] <Velcan> so was the wg511T
[04:09] <Velcan> damn d-link! :~(
[04:09] <rob^> tiglionabbit, there is very little there if anything there that wont be covered in the offical faq when its released
[04:09] <SDFH_Linux> how about dlink 650+
[04:09] <FlannelKing> rob^, if people here ask the questions already IN the documentation, then obviously they haven't checked there first, and we should redirect them
[04:09] <Jesse1> Kumasan, I looked at that already
[04:09] <Velcan> i think that one was on line but not as working by default
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> rob^: what official faq that isn't released yet are you talking about?
[04:10] <rob^> FlannelKing, you should redirect them to the offical docs
[04:10] <FlannelKing> those ARE the official docs
[04:10] <rob^> tiglionabbit, in the subversion repo. To be released with Breezy
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> rob^: subversion?
[04:11] <root_> nick ramiro
[04:11] <nalioth> rob^: if you go to this url, you will see the official project that is in charge of tiglionabbit's endeavors
[04:11] <SDFH_Linux> how about dlink 650+ wireless card will ubuntu pick it up?
[04:11] <jasoncohen> why is ubuntu able to packge fglrx and nvidia drivers with ubuntu but not gstreamer0.8-mad in main?
[04:11] <nalioth>  rob^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NewUserMentors
[04:11] <root_> alguien que hable espaol?
[04:12] <root_> ramiro nick
[04:12] <nalioth> jasoncohen: are the nvidia and fglrx drivers open source?
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> heh, actually I didn't really know about the project when I started writing it.  But I will probably help with that project, and they are already adopting some of the stuffs I wrote
[04:12] <root_> nickname ramiro
[04:12] <nalioth> root_: en #ubuntu-es, por favor
[04:12] <rob^> tiglionabbit, subversion is software the docteam uses to store their offical docs while they work on them
[04:12] <root_> hola nalioth
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> rob^: how do I access it?
[04:12] <IceDC571> !info lsb
[04:12] <ubotu> lsb: (Linux Standard Base 2.0 core support package), section misc, is extra. Version: 2.0-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 188 kB
[04:13] <nalioth> rob^: it's a wiki
[04:13] <ameoba> trying to install emacs, keep getting a MD5sum mismatch on emacs21-bin-common.  Done an apt-get update.  any suggestions?
[04:13] <nalioth> ameoba: the repos are wonky
[04:13] <jasoncohen> nalioth, no- both are closed source
[04:13] <rob^> tiglionabbit, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SubversionRepository
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> ameoba: you probably have the "us" repositories
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[04:13] <ubotu> hmm... newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[04:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[04:13] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:13] <jasoncohen> nalioth, the only thing i can think of is that mp3 may require licensing fees to include support in an application and therefore might be illegal in the US
[04:14] <jasoncohen> is this the case?
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> =p I should stop pulling out my !s
[04:14] <nalioth> mp3 is problematic
[04:14] <bccs> I want to know why is so dificult to make linux write on NTFS. Can someone point me to a link?
[04:14] <jasoncohen> is there a list of commands to control ubotu
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> !help
[04:14] <jasoncohen> bccs, because it would have to be reverse engineered
[04:14] <bccs> !help
[04:15] <nalioth> bccs: cuz microshaft hasnt released any specs on NTFS, and the linux devs are figgering it out a piece  at a time
[04:15] <jasoncohen> bccs, there is a way to do this and it's supposed to be pretty safe but it's no longer being supported. i forget the name of the module you need
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> captive-nfts?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> *ntfs
[04:15] <nalioth> jasoncohen: bccs its captive-ntfs
[04:15] <harris|u> Does anyone have a good guide for users just starting in Linux? Or what I should do once I install ubuntu, how to install / complile things?
[04:15] <root_> quien habla espaol
[04:15] <jasoncohen> yeah, he needs captive- that's it
[04:15] <x2l2> yoo
[04:15] <nalioth> jasoncohen: and i have better sense than to load a windows lib into my kernel
[04:15] <jasoncohen> nalioth, is it safe?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[04:15] <root_> o que canal es en espaol?
[04:15] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:16] <nalioth> root_: esta no personas in #ubuntu-es?
[04:16] <Velcan> SDFH - here's the link i was looking at for supported wifi cards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:16] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers is really good- very nice job
[04:16] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i cant use it at all, i have a PPC
[04:16] <x2l2> root_, #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <Velcan> dwl-g630 isnt even in the freaking list :~(
[04:17] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, you forgot gstreamer0.8-mad. mind if i add it to the list?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: is that necessary?  What exactly does it add?
[04:17] <ameoba> tiglionabbit: I understand how APT works just fine - but if the default official repo is broken, which one should I use?
[04:17] <Velcan> i feal like im so close to getting it to work cause i can actualy see the device ... yet im soooo far away :(
[04:17] <LinuxJones> root_, you know your not supposed to use that account for irc and general desktop usage ?
[04:18] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, are you kidding? it adds mp3 support
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> ameoba: you should edit your sources.list and just delete the "us." in the source names
[04:18] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, it is the MOST essential multimedia plugin for most users
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: oooo sheeet, okay
[04:18] <nalioth> ameoba: if you remove the us. from in front of your URLS in your sources, you'll randomly hit the next available server
[04:18] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, w/o it rythmbox is pretty useless
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: feel free to edit however you want
[04:18] <Kumasan> anyone have beagle running on Breezy?
[04:19] <jasoncohen> is gstreamer0.8-vorbis installed by default on hoary?
[04:19] <bccs> tiglionabbit, is there a place where i can put a translation of the wiki you made? Can i make NewUbuntuUser_ptbr or something like that?
[04:19] <root_> no lo se
[04:20] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, maybe we should just put gstreamer0.8-plugins. that's the meta package and will download all the plugins
[04:20] <tiglionabbit> bccs: go ahead
[04:20] <ameoba> nalioth - round robin DNS?
[04:20] <nalioth> bccs: i'd wait a few days, its gonna grow
[04:20] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: ok
[04:20] <root_> alguien que me explique como usar esto
[04:20] <root_> bien
[04:20] <nalioth> ameoba: something like that
[04:20] <jasoncohen> nalioth, what do you think we should recommend in the Audio/Video section of newubuntuusers?
[04:20] <Velcan> Anyone in the cannel yet that might be able to help me with my wireless card issues?
[04:20] <jasoncohen> nalioth, gstreamer0.8-plugins or individual plugins?
[04:20] <nalioth> root_: nosotros no hablamos espanol aqui, por favor muevete de #ubunte-es
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins
[04:21] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[04:21] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, apt-cache show gstreamer0.8-plugins
[04:21] <bigfoot1> Is there a way to search through the Ubuntu-users mailing list archive at http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users?
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: be sure to put that in the last sentence, where I mention totem-xine, because it's in univers rather than backports
[04:21] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, ok
[04:21] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i think advising the addition of uni and multi, and then using synaptic to search for 'gstreamer*" and deciding for themselves what they want/need
[04:22] <nalioth> lawsy, my spanish sucks hard
[04:22] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i think we should atleast advise gstreamer0.8-mad...almost everyone wants mp3 support
[04:22] <pmai> how transparents window?
[04:22] <nalioth> jasoncohen: what about us apple user/switchers? aac/mp4?
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: are you editing it now, or should I?
[04:23] <nalioth> jasoncohen: what about windows audiophiles ? flac?
[04:23] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I think the gstreamer one should be in the second sentence.  It's not in backports
[04:23] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, i am
[04:23] <jasoncohen> doing that now tiglionabbit
[04:23] <jasoncohen> oh, sorry
[04:24] <Velcan> What's the tool used to add new networking devices?
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> it's just lame that's in the backports I believe
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> Velcan: you mean network-admin ?
[04:24] <stetyR> hello
[04:24] <Velcan> that might be it .... the only tool i have found via the gui that comes close looks a lot different that i remember
[04:25] <LinuxJones> stetyR, welcome
[04:25] <stetyR> thanks
[04:25] <Velcan> i remember a gui that listed my installed devs as well as having an option to add a new device
[04:25] <adwait> hey ppl
[04:25] <asimismo> Is there a way to scroll back in the console? FreeBSD makes it really easy...
[04:26] <LinuxJones> adwait, hiya
[04:26] <tiglionabbit> asimismo: control-pageUp, or shift-pageUp
[04:26] <adwait> asimismo: console.....as in terminal?
[04:26] <asimismo> tiglionabbit: That did it! Thanks!
[04:26] <stetyR> very cool
[04:26] <asimismo> adwait: Yup
[04:27] <hosler> has anyone gotten steam to work with winex3?
[04:27] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:27] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[04:27] <Velcan> Yea that is the tool but they have changed it ...
[04:28] <Velcan> i went to the help section for the network-admin tool and in the screens it shows it the way i remember it "with the add button"\
[04:28] <thr1ce> !info totem-xine
[04:28] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[04:29] <thr1ce> neat :)
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> hosler,  ive heard steam works with Cedega
[04:29] <phzi> Hey everyone
[04:29] <hosler> Dr_Willis, is Cedega free?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> hosler,  nope. :P
[04:29] <hosler> darn
[04:30] <Velcan> it's not?
[04:30] <adwait> nope
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> winex was renamed to cedega. $5  mo.
[04:30] <johnnybezak> hosler: i think you can build the cvs version of it can't you>?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> $5 a mo.
[04:30] <phzi> you can get it free
[04:30] <thr1ce> good luck building source
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> ya can try the cvs if ya want..  i guess.. but for the cost of a big mac and fries... :P
[04:30] <phzi> you just can't get pre-compiled
[04:30] <nalioth> hosler: cedega-cvs is free
[04:30] <gotonpo> i have a terribly stupid question.. how do i quit from reading a man file? :P
[04:30] <phzi> I have an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro running the fglrx drivers installed right now. I got a GeForce 6200 so I could run Dual Monitors a little more effectively under linux
[04:30] <thr1ce> press q
[04:30] <nalioth> gotonpo: Q
[04:31] <phzi> any suggestions for preperation for install?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if the cedega-cvs has the same copy-progection/directX features however.
[04:31] <gotonpo> beautiful thanks
[04:31] <snareplr> Hello
[04:31] <nalioth> phzi: music
[04:31] <nalioth> phzi: relax
[04:31] <Velcan> yea ... but isnt it 5$ one month ... and keep paying only if you want access to point2play
[04:31] <phzi> lol, thanks nalioth
[04:31] <phzi> I mean, for prepairing my system :P
[04:31] <thr1ce> preparations?!  it'll only take 20 mins or so
[04:31] <thr1ce> back stuff up?
[04:31] <stetyR> bye
[04:31] <phzi> if I put the card in, X won't work
[04:31] <thr1ce> that would suck to have an "oops"
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Velcan,  no. :P $5 a mo (3 mo min at the start) P2P is included.. BUT if you stop paying you just get no more updates.
[04:32] <Velcan> it's been a while since i used it so i dont remmber honestly
[04:32] <Velcan> ah
[04:32] <Velcan> okay
[04:32] <phzi> is there a command line ubuntu tool for auto config?
[04:32] <harris|u> Can someone help me with this error (configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH) when I'm trying to compile pidentd
[04:32] <snareplr> is mplayer available for Ubuntu?
[04:32] <phzi> before I install the proper NV drivers?
[04:32] <Velcan> lol i wonder if they're still charging my card o_O
[04:32] <nalioth> harris|u: install 'build-essential"
[04:32] <thr1ce> phzi, most stuff will be included; nvidia drivers are done yourself through apt, yes
[04:32] <nalioth> harris|u: use synaptic
[04:32] <harris|u> okay, thanks again nalioth
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[04:32] <ubotu> from memory, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[04:33] <phzi> thr1ce: I am using linux right now
[04:33] <phzi> when I boot with the NV card, is there a ubuntu command line too or autoconfiguring X?
[04:33] <Velcan> i would pay 5$ mo. to get my wireless card working :()
[04:33] <thr1ce> xorgconfig?
[04:33] <tiglionabbit> phzi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <thr1ce> it'll start you in X though by default with gdm
[04:33] <nalioth> phzi: did you install ubuntu with the nvidia card in the machine?
[04:33] <phzi> nalioth: no
[04:34] <phzi> I have an ATI card
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> lol
[04:34] <phzi> thank you tiglionabbit
[04:34] <phzi> thats what I was looking for
[04:34] <nalioth> phzi: then what tiglionabbit said
[04:35] <nalioth> brb
[04:36] <phzi> k, time to reboot and give it a try
[04:37] <phzi> thanks, and I'll let you guys know how it goes
[04:37] <Velcan> So. has anyone in here played WoW via cedega? If so how well does it work?
[04:37] <Velcan> If I could get my WoW fix on I could put my windoze where it belongs ... where's the bathroom?
[04:38] <hosler> if I get cedega, should I uninstall wine, winetools, and winex3?
[04:38] <thr1ce> wtf!  I can't find win32codecs
[04:38] <Velcan> everything should be built into cedega if i remmber right
[04:38] <hosler> i mean will cedega be better than those and I wont need them anymore?
[04:38] <thr1ce> and have updated my repositories properly
[04:38] <Aerebus> i'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error:
[04:38] <Aerebus> checking for gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0... Package gtkmm-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkmm-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtkmm-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a no
[04:38] <Aerebus> nstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[04:39] <Aerebus> can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong plz?
[04:39] <Velcan> pretty sure cedega is supposed to be all in one
[04:40] <Velcan> Looks like I might jsut have to break down and buy a different wifi card and give my dog a new chew toy. :(
[04:40] <adwait> Aerebus: well do u hv the package/file anywhere?
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: it's in hoary extras
[04:41] <thenostradamus> does anyone here use shorewall?
[04:41] <thr1ce> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:41] <thr1ce> that's not findint it
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: it's called w32codecs
[04:42] <Aerebus> adwait, do u mean gtkmm?
[04:42] <IceDC571> is anyone here using kde? lol
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I've got it installed, yeah
[04:42] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit, how do you like it?
[04:42] <LinuxJones> IceDC571, you can join #kubuntu
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> uh, it's pretty, but I think gnome is more suited to ubuntu's features
[04:43] <IceDC571> i'm thinking about trying fluxbox
[04:43] <root_> alguien que hable espaol?
[04:43] <Aerebus> adwait, i do a locate gtkmm and nothing shows up
[04:43] <adwait> Aerebus: yes
[04:43] <seth_k> root_: #ubuntu-es
[04:43] <Velcan> if you gonna try flux you chould check out damnsmalllinux
[04:43] <Velcan> it's pretty cool
[04:43] <root_> ok muchas gracias
[04:44] <adwait> Aerebus: Aerebus thn maybe u dont hv tht file.......i tired apt-get can't get it there so i guess u gotta search fora deb
[04:44] <adwait> Aerebus: i guess this is it: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=gtkmm&sourceid=mozilla-search
[04:45] <Aerebus> i looked in synaptic and it says i have libgtkmm-2.4-1 and libgtkmm-2.4-dev installed...
[04:46] <biscuit> Anyone know anything about PPP here>
[04:46] <IceDC571> well i dont know, dont i have to configure everything just to make fluxbox a decent desktop?
[04:46] <biscuit> Ice...Long time no see
[04:46] <Discipulus> biscuit, I do, what's the problem?
[04:46] <IceDC571> biscuit, MrBiscuit?
[04:46] <Jhair> does ubuntu bugzilla work at the moment? Registration doesn't seem to work (mail with password was sent to me but I get " The username or password you entered is not valid.")
[04:47] <biscuit> Discipulus, Well i want to use KDE, but for some reason i can only connect to the internet throughthe Modem Lights thingey on GNOME
[04:47] <adwait> Aerebus: hmm..........no idea buddy.....
[04:47] <biscuit> Yes its me
[04:47] <Jhair> Requesting a new password doesn't work neither: the promised mail with the new password is not sent.
[04:47] <IceDC571> biscuit, which window managers do you have installed?
[04:47] <biscuit> *Forced to use non free driver X-(
[04:47] <biscuit> WIndow managers?
[04:47] <biscuit> *noob
[04:48] <IceDC571> biscuit, lol... i didnt know you were that much of a newb
[04:48] <biscuit> Like Gnome? Or what
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, don't use the GUI, I've had considerable problems with it
[04:48] <IceDC571> biscuit, i think i asked you the same question yesterday
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, pppconfig to set it up
[04:48] <biscuit> I know
[04:48] <biscuit> I did
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, pon <provider> to turn it on
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, and poff to turn it off
[04:48] <biscuit> Ok..
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, all command-line programs
[04:48] <oga> is anybody interested in seeing if they can help me with an interesting networking problem... not specifcally related to ubuntu?
[04:49] <Discipulus> Anything else before I go off to bed?
[04:49] <biscuit> Linuxant making you pay for their drivers RUBBISH!
[04:49] <biscuit> Not really
[04:49] <oga> fair enough
[04:49] <Discipulus> biscuit, that answer your question?
[04:49] <biscuit> Ya
[04:49] <IceDC571> anything that charges you isnt good
[04:49] <biscuit> Ill try that
[04:49] <biscuit> I know
[04:49] <biscuit> I found a beta
[04:49] <biscuit> But it won't setup rite
[04:49] <biscuit> You think you can help Ice?
[04:49] <Discipulus> alright, good night all
[04:49] <IceDC571> biscuit, whats the problem?
[04:50] <biscuit> Hold on lemme get the error again
[04:50] <biscuit> Lol
[04:50] <LinuxJones> ogra, depends on what you need us to do
[04:50] <oga> heres the deal: i scored a "non-working sample" belkin router model "f5d7230" which is supposedly the wireless router from belkin
[04:50] <oga> it works as a router with the ethernet ports
[04:51] <oga> but the firmware (or possibly harware as well) does not make any mention of WLAN
[04:51] <oga> i want to know if there is any way i can tell if this is actually a wirless routher
[04:51] <oga> or just a normal one wacked in the wrong case
[04:52] <LinuxJones> ogra, is there an antenna on it :)
[04:52] <oga> yep
[04:52] <Velcan> Trying to get my D-Link DWL-G630 WiFi card to work after a fresh install. What's weird is that the device actually shows up in the device manager and even goes aways and comes back if I am to reseat the device. But no matter what I seem to do I get no lights indicating that the card has any power, and the device does not show up in my network-admin tool. -- Has anyone seen this or something like this before and able to help me?
[04:52] <biscuit> Umm thats alot of stuff
[04:52] <oga> it's just wierd
[04:52] <oga> no mention of WLAN at config screen
[04:52] <oga> but there is an antenna
[04:52] <oga> & model matches wirless as per the outside of the case
[04:53] <oga> but
[04:53] <biscuit> Brb Ice
[04:53] <oga> it says "non-working sample"
[04:53] <oga> and if nothing works it would make sense
[04:53] <oga> but i'm using it now to chat 2 you guys
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> lol
[04:55] <oga> i'm gonna try throwing on some german firmware.... who knows?
[04:55] <cafuego> Velcan: More likely than not you need ndiswrapper with windows drivers (or perhaps acx_100 with windows binary firmware) before that card will do anything.
[04:56] <biscuit> Hmm
[04:56] <Velcan> thats just were in do ndiswrapper -i pathto(inf)file right?
[04:56] <biscuit> Now the pon and poff thing works... tricky tricky
[04:56] <LinuxJones> ogra, have you been here Linux is a supported operating system >> http://search.belkin.com/cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFindEN.cfg&AND_ON=N&MCAT%5B2%5D=X&AGE_WGT=0&EN=X&NO_DL=X&QUERY=F5D7230-4*&LL=EN
[04:56] <Velcan> I'll try that
[04:56] <oga> thanx jones
[04:56] <cafuego> That first, then ndiswrapper -m, then 'updat-modules' , then 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[04:56] <Velcan> I just figured since it was showing the the dev man that the drivers where installed
[04:56] <Velcan> ahh
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> pon, poff? no porn?
[04:57] <Velcan> okay
[04:57] <cafuego> Velcan: keep in mind it will supportonly a subset of the 'iwconfig' options.
[04:57] <pax> Hi everyone, I just installed and found either a bug or a very serious issue with Ubuntu
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[04:57] <Velcan> kk. ima go try that quick
[04:57] <cafuego> pax: Did you file a bug?
[04:57] <TokenBad> finally someone fixed my cedega problem!!!
[04:57] <TokenBad> now can install gams
[04:57] <pax> type: last -d   and check if you see some IP from russia showing every time you boot your Ubuntu
[04:57] <TokenBad> games eve
[04:57] <TokenBad> finally
[04:58] <pax> cafuego: not yet, this is freaking me out
[04:58] <cafuego> pax: 194.135.4.8 ?
[04:58] <pax> every time you boot/login, this IP 194.135.4.8 shows up via last -d  another user confirmed it
[04:58] <pax> cafuego: yes.
[04:59] <cafuego> pax: Seems to only happen on X logins; probably just a random pointer getting logged to utmp.
[04:59] <pax> all users of Ubuntu/Kubuntu are owned until this gets cleared!
[04:59] <pax> cafuego: you have the same thing right?
[04:59] <cafuego> pax: No, russians aren't accessing your machine.
[05:00] <adwait> hehe
[05:00] <cafuego> pax: Login at the console, see how it logs 0.0.0.0 then?
[05:00] <pax> pax@debuntu:~$ last -d
[05:00] <pax> pax      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 22:03   still logged in
[05:00] <pax> pax      :0           0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 22:03 - 22:03  (00:00)
[05:00] <pax> reboot   system boot  0.0.0.0          Sat Jul  9 21:57          (00:40)
[05:00] <delltony> hi is there any chance i could get someone with advanced knowledge to help me get mplayer to have libmp3lame enabled? I have installed libmp3lame i have the .so file in the /usr/lib dir so i'm guessing its installed. I then took and downloaded the mplayer source and tried to compile it but after compilation i stll get mplayer is not compiled with libmp3lame support. help would be appreciated. thankks
[05:01] <harris|u> Can someone help with firestarter? It says 'failed to start the firewall' because the device eth0 is not ready although it's obviously ready since I'm connected to the internet.
[05:01] <digitalfox> hrm. anyone know how to set the default terminal dimensions in gnome-terminal?
[05:01] <Velcan> o_O ndiswrapper isnt installed in ubuntu by default?
[05:01] <cafuego> pax: It's a bug in gdm I expect.
[05:01] <cafuego> Breezy logs lots of different other IPs.
[05:01] <pax> cafuego: you didnt answer me, do you have the same issue?
[05:02] <pax> cafuego: I installed and reinstalled twice to confim this
[05:02] <cafuego> pax: Mine is also logging a random uninitialised pointer to wtmp, yes.
[05:02] <cafuego> pax: it's a bug, not a security hole.
[05:02] <GigaClon> hey quick problem here
[05:02] <pax> cafuego: I will file bugzilla, you do the same please.
[05:02] <sean_> anybody know why my comp just shuts down randomly
[05:03] <sean_> with ubuntu
[05:03] <cafuego> Velcan: Why would Ubuntu install windows drivers by default?
[05:03] <sean_> this never happend
[05:03] <nickrud> cafuego do you, offhand, know the bug report?
[05:03] <adwait> sean_ it doesnt like u/ubuntu
[05:03] <sean_> now i cant leave my comp alone, it always turns off
[05:03] <IceDC571> biscuit, im back
[05:03] <cafuego> nickrud: no idea.
[05:03] <adwait> sean_: system overheating?
[05:03] <sean_> thats what i thought
[05:03] <cafuego> sean_: Did you check the log files after booting back up?
[05:03] <sean_> oh well
[05:03] <nickrud> so I don't; then I guess it'll be something interesting to look up :)
[05:03] <rendi> anyone know what's the best player for mp3 ?
[05:04] <sean_> i thought it might have been something common, no i havent
[05:04] <adwait> rendi: rhythmbox, xmms, beep-media-player
[05:04] <adwait> take ur pck
[05:04] <adwait> *pick
[05:04] <cafuego> nickrud: I believe this bug was filed in debian over 6 months ago.
[05:04] <D1> depends on what you're looking for: muine, bmp, rhythmbox
[05:04] <nickrud> cafuego I'm not doubting you, just looking for a shortcut
[05:04] <rendi> i mean the ui like winamp
[05:04] <D1> try beep-media-player
[05:05] <cafuego> I'll check the gdm sources
[05:05] <siimo> hi when i try changing themes in gnome settings, no matter what theme i click on it doesnt change anything
[05:05] <siimo> nothing happens
[05:05] <siimo> can someone help?
[05:05] <nickrud> dpm
[05:06] <nickrud> huh, bad finger placement ;)
[05:06] <snareplr> hello all.... Is an mplayer .deb available for Ubuntu ??
[05:06] <adwait> snareplr: apt-get install mplayer
[05:06] <D1> should be.
[05:06] <Trace> Hello, althouth i ask this question 3 times here, i really want to fix it, ask again.
[05:06] <adwait> or do u specifically wnat a deb?
[05:06] <snareplr> adwait; no dice...
[05:06] <GigaClon> i was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message
[05:07] <Trace> my sound card is sis7012 integreated, driver is snd_intel8x0
[05:07] <GigaClon> any help
[05:08] <Trace> it seems be driven sucessfully, TeamSpeak telles me it is be driven. but i can't here anysound
[05:08] <Trace> i tried alsamixer to check.
[05:08] <IceDC571> wow.. is there any guide i can follow to configure fluxbox?
[05:09] <cafuego> Yeah, bug is in 'sessreg'
[05:09] <Trace> Pcm channel and master channel is just 0, i can't change the value of it? why?
[05:09] <Velcan> should i have to reboot after that?
[05:09] <cafuego> Shit
[05:11] <ed1t> damn i just found out that i get waaay more download speed on wireless on ubuntu then xp
[05:11] <davidandkaz> HI guys
[05:11] <ed1t> 600 kbps on wireless
[05:11] <ed1t> i would get like 300 in xp
[05:11] <davidandkaz> Hey how do i access my other harddrives?
[05:11] <davidandkaz> like my mp3's
[05:12] <concept10> Anyone have knowledge of the GNOME networkmanager?
[05:12] <nalioth> davidandkaz: please be more specific
[05:12] <D1> Trace, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27583&highlight=sis7012
[05:12] <D1> try looking at that
[05:12] <Aerebus> i'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/465 can someone help me fix this? i'm guessing it's saying i need gtkmm but when i do "locate gtkmm" nothings comes up, however in ubuntu under the synaptic package manager it says its installed >.<
[05:12] <D1> might be something of interest since its about your card.
[05:12] <nalioth> Aerebus: you need gtkmm blah -dev libs
[05:13] <nalioth> Aerebus: the -dev is what it's looking for
[05:13] <davidandkaz> Well I partitioned this hard drive into two operating systems, I can only read my cd rom and dvd player
[05:13] <biscuit> davidandkaz: What format are you other hds formated in
[05:13] <davidandkaz> oh, umm
[05:13] <davidandkaz> not sure
[05:13] <Velcan> I did all that, rebooted and still no light or dev showing in network-admin :(
[05:13] <rendi> i finished instaled beep media player but i can't play song with that, but i can play song with music player any help me ?
[05:13] <biscuit> FAT32, NTFS, etc etc
[05:13] <davidandkaz> don't know
[05:14] <nalioth> davidandkaz: do you run windows on the same box?
[05:14] <davidandkaz> yes
[05:14] <ed1t> nalioth, do you know if i can backup the linux paritition with ghost?
[05:14] <davidandkaz> :D
[05:14] <nalioths_dog> davidandkaz: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[05:14] <rendi> any one help me pls
[05:14] <biscuit> Well if it's NTFS (probally if you have Win XPand a huge HD) then well your outta luck
[05:14] <nalioths_dog> rendi: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[05:15] <rendi> ok
[05:15] <Velcan> you can read ntfs fine (at least i have been able to) but writting to ntfs can be hectic
[05:15] <rendi> but it format mp3 ?
[05:15] <HrdwrBoB> er
[05:15] <davidandkaz> How do I run that?
[05:15] <HrdwrBoB> yes you can read NTFS not a problem
[05:15] <biscuit> THE DOG!
[05:16] <Aerebus> nalioth, would this be it?
[05:16] <nalioth> davidandkaz: when you get it d/l, open a terminal where the file is located and type "sudo -s", and then "sh winmac_fstab"
[05:16] <Aerebus> http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[05:16] <nalioth> davidandkaz: then close the termial
[05:16] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes
[05:17] <IceDC571> anyone here running fluxbox?
[05:17] <biscuit> nalioths_dog: Can you still access a Windoes NTFS part on linux
[05:17] <Aerebus> nalioth, how do i install a .deb file?
[05:17] <nalioth> biscuit: yes, read-only
[05:18] <nalioth> Aerebus: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[05:18] <nalioth> Aerebus: you should be able to install that using synaptic, tho
[05:19] <tenshu> i just installed ubuntu, my resolutions are stuck at 1024x768, how can i fix this?
[05:19] <biscuit> Oh... with that fstab thingey?
[05:19] <pax> nalioth last -d in a termial and tell me if you can a see an IP you dont recognised at every boot/login
[05:20] <nalioth> pax: im sorry, i don't understand
[05:20] <Velcan> cafuego: I did ndiswrapper -i /media/usbdisk/net5211.inf; ndiswrapper -m; update-modules; modprobe ndiswrapper -- Is there anything else I need to do after that?
[05:20] <pax> nalioth type this in a terminal: last -d
[05:20] <cafuego> nalioth: There's a bug in gdm or 'sessreg' which logs a random pointer, which is translated to an IP by 'last'.
[05:20] <nalioth> ubotu tell tenshu about resolutions
[05:20] <pax> nalioth do you see an IP that is not yours there?
[05:21] <Velcan> I have also rebooted but still no light or dev showing in network-admin
[05:21] <tenshu> nalioth, what?
[05:21] <nalioth> i see no strangers in my last -d
[05:21] <nalioth> ubotu tell tenshu about resolution
[05:21] <SDFH_Linux> trying out hoary live cd my wireless network card is suppose to work but it doesnt why?
[05:22] <Strife[lab] > has anyone tried using gnomad2?
[05:22] <tenshu> thanks
[05:22] <cafuego> global vars left, right and center
[05:23] <SDFH_Linux> and my wireless card is supported
[05:23] <GigaClon> i was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message
[05:23] <SDFH_Linux> why it doesnt work
[05:23] <concept10> Anyone have any knowledge of this ?  http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/index.html
[05:23] <nalioth> GigaClon: you need liblua-dev or something like that
[05:23] <Strife> actually, better yet... how do you edit your library search path (so when you run a program, it knows where to find a lib)?
[05:23] <nickrud> damn, can someone point me at something about the syntax that ubotu understands?
[05:23] <FlannelKing> pax, I too have 194.135.4.8, as still logged in, I'm not worried about it
[05:24] <GigaClon> I installed that too still didn't work
[05:24] <nalioth> nickrud: ask ubotu !help
[05:24] <SDFH_Linux> anyone?
[05:25] <Aerebus> nalioth, i installed both libgtkmm-2.4-1_2.4.10-1_i386.deb and libgtkmm-2.4-dev_2.4.10-1_i386.deb manually thru the terminal and it is still giving me the same error
[05:25] <nickrud> thanks, nalioth
[05:26] <Scroopy> how do i kill a non repsonsive program?
[05:26] <nalioth> Aerebus: search using synaptic for 'gtkmm'
[05:26] <HrdwrBoB> click the X
[05:27] <Scroopy> no that dint work lol
[05:27] <[koji] > !help
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> it'll come up with a force quit option
[05:27] <nalioth> Scroopy: applicaions > run app > xkill
[05:27] <nickrud> Scroopy that's a loaded question, it depends on how it's called
[05:27] <Strife> does anyone know why libnjb0 doesn't actually work?
[05:27] <Scroopy> well my AMSN has locked up
[05:28] <Scroopy> ther eis no XKILL under run aopplication
[05:28] <GigaClon> nalioth: I still get this error,./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: liblua.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <nalioth> Scroopy: you have to type it in
[05:28] <nalioth> GigaClon: i'm not sure
[05:28] <PPC_Guy> anyone have BitchX installed with Warty?
[05:28] <Scroopy> aaa thanks haps
[05:28] <Scroopy> heaps
[05:28] <Scroopy> all fixed no0w
[05:28] <Scroopy> ;) cheers
[05:29] <IceDC571> wheres the list of window managers on that ubuntu site?
[05:29] <Aerebus> nalioth, ok i got it up only 2 things are installed the 2 i just mentioned
[05:29] <GigaClon> compiling lua from source didn't help either
[05:29] <ed1t> nalioth,  i just installed this package cl-md5 from synaptic, but i dunno how to open it now
[05:29] <nalioth> Aerebus: then i'm stumped
[05:29] <nalioth> ed1t: why did you install it? what's it for?
[05:29] <pax> FlannelKing: thank you for comfirming this bug in Ubuntu. I hope the devs will address this issue promptly.
[05:29] <nalioth> IceDC571: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <ed1t> for checking md5 sums
[05:29] <ed1t> checksum*
[05:30] <FlannelKing> ed1t, check the 'installed files' on the package
[05:30] <nalioth> ed1t: then at a terminal type "md5sum <whatever you want to md5 fingerprint>"
[05:30] <mgalvin> is anyone else in new york getting TERRIBLE network connection speeds to ubuntus server in the uk?
[05:30] <IceDC571> nalioth, um okk..
[05:31] <ed1t> ooo thx
[05:33] <HaroldJohnson> naliothHey there, nalioth.
[05:33] <Aerebus> nalioth i dont suppose u could compile it for me? lol
[05:34] <nalioth> Aerebus: if i did, you wouldnt be able to use it. i run PPC
[05:34] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: howzit goin?
[05:34] <Aerebus> o
[05:34] <Aerebus> well
[05:34] <Aerebus> bummer
[05:34] <HaroldJohnson> I've just installed madwifi and I'm ready to use my wireless card.
[05:35] <HaroldJohnson> What do I need to do to test my wifi connection?
[05:35] <HaroldJohnson> naliothIt's going fine; yourself?
[05:36] <nalioth> Aerebus: you can compile it for yourself
[05:37] <HaroldJohnson> naliothGet some rest, nalioth.
[05:37] <Strife> hey, so for some reason, it seems that java on ubuntu (and debian in particular) seems to like to not use Swing, but instead some crappy attempt at a gtk look and feel (at least on GNOME)... any idea how I can undo that?
[05:38] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: How do I test a wireless card?  Plug it in and ping?  iwconfig?  iwlist scan/  dmesg?
[05:38] <GigaClon> can synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?
[05:39] <seth_k> !sources
[05:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:39] <Aerebus> nalioth what else could be the problem?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> !Wow
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: Are you smoking crack?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, Hey, that's not nice?
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, What?
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:39] <nalioth> Aerebus: i have no clue what you are trying to do
[05:39] <seth_k> don't mess with the bot :P
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, Hey now@
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, What the?
[05:40] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:40] <daniels> guys, please leave the bot alone.
[05:40] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you are speaking to a Robot
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> naliothI know, I'm just kidding.
[05:40] <Aerebus> nalioth i'm trying to compile source for visualboy advance
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> naliothThat's my first time playing with it.
[05:40] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: don't tease the bot, he doesnt like it
[05:40] <Mets> hey guys, I'm having some install issues with 5.04.  I've burnt several copies of the image, tried different burning programs, downloaded different images from another mirror, tried different computers, etc., but I can't seem to get anything to read either the InstallCD or the LiveCD for Ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[05:41] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: too many other folks have abused poor ol' ubotu
[05:41] <LinuxJones> !help
[05:41] <nalioth> Mets: you hardware alright?
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> naliothYou probably get tired of seeing that.
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> !wireless
[05:41] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:41] <Mets> I think, I tried it on a new Dell, and old Acer, and a middle-aged Compaq, and nothing on any of them
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> naliothBot is useful.
[05:42] <Mets> I've burnt and installed a ton of linux distros before, and I never had a problem
[05:42] <GigaClon> can synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?
[05:42] <paul_> giga yes
[05:42] <juanpa> hi, im having troubles with cd burning, i already have k3b installed but it says that i dont have cdrao, and sinaptyc doesnt find it, any help??
[05:42] <nickrud> GigaClon now without some wore on your part
[05:43] <Jimbob> paul_: It can't install them, can it?
[05:43] <nickrud> s/wore/work :)
[05:43] <paul_> thats what synaptic is for, deb packages
[05:43] <D1> does anyone know of a good gtk2 ftp client (not gftp)?
[05:43] <GigaClon> link to how to do it?
[05:44] <nickrud> GigaClon pointing at man pages is frowned on here, but take a look at man dpkg-scanpackages
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> D1: nautilus
[05:44] <D1> yeah, I just thought of that. but does it do SFTP?
[05:44] <GigaClon> I downloaded a game in .deb format from freshmeat
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> D1: dunno, try it
[05:45] <nickrud> GigaClon then, to get just that deb installed, dpkg -i <game.deb> in a terminal
[05:46] <nickrud> the package will show up in synaptic, after doing that, as a local package.
[05:47] <trinidad> Help with KDE 3.4 and translucency window features: Composite extension not found You MUST us XOrg> 6.8 for traslucency and shadows to work
[05:47] <GigaClon> !paste
[05:47] <ubotu> hmm... paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[05:47] <cafuego> pax: There you go, bug is filed.
[05:48] <trinidad> can I undo this if it goes sour?
[05:48] <pax> cafuego: link, I filed one already no response so far.
[05:48] <cafuego> pax: I filed one via 'reportbug'
[05:49] <pax> cafuego: good man.
[05:49] <cafuego> and the list just echoed it back
[05:49] <trinidad> is there a fix for this in ubuntu?
[05:49] <trung> how make windows transparent?
[05:49] <trinidad> yes
[05:49] <GigaClon> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/310325
[05:49] <cafuego> trinidad: Install libxdamage1
[05:49] <trinidad> im using baghira theme and would like to make all windows transparent
[05:49] <trinidad> apt-get?
[05:49] <cafuego> trinidad: And enable the omposite etension. Note it -will_ make X slow and crash.
[05:50] <trinidad> nm
[05:50] <trinidad> other suggestions?
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[05:50] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[05:50] <cafuego> trinidad: Check the README file for xcompmgr
[05:50] <trung> trinidad, where is badgira theme?
[05:51] <nickrud> GigaClon my first guess, is you are invoking dpkg in the wrong directory
[05:51] <trinidad> apt-repository
[05:51] <trung> gnome? kde?
[05:51] <GigaClon> it in the same dir as the deb file
[05:52] <trung> how make windows transparent?
[05:52] <nickrud> GigaClon then, assuming I'm in the same dir as your deb, I'd do dpkg -i path<tab> , and if that doesn't work ...
[05:53] <nickrud> GigaClon don't forget sudo
[05:53] <ZeXr0> do you know how many floopy is the woody installer ?
[05:53] <GigaClon> no dice
[05:53] <nickrud> ZeXr0 2
[05:54] <ZeXr0> do you know where I can get it ?
[05:54] <nickrud> ZeXr0 I would assume that debian.org has links, I last looked a couple years ago :)
[05:55] <trung> !transparent
[05:55] <ubotu> trung: Wish i knew
[05:55] <ZeXr0> well I'm looking and all I find is like 20 floppy for the woody installer
[05:55] <trung> !transparents
[05:55] <ubotu> trung: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:55] <trung> !trans
[05:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, trung
[05:55] <gotonpo> anyone know how to make desktop icons display their text to the right/left instead of underneath?
[05:55] <gotonpo> i can do it in the file browser but not in the desktop.
[05:55] <GigaClon> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/310325
[05:55] <GigaClon> oops
[05:56] <GigaClon> sudo dpkg -i ./pathological_1.1.2_i386.deb
[05:56] <GigaClon> that was the line
[05:56] <seth_k> !transparency
[05:56] <ubotu> seth_k: Are you smoking crack?
[05:56] <seth_k> trung: you use xcompmgr
[05:56] <harris|u> !help
[05:56] <nickrud> GigaClon I cannot replicate your error, I'm currently on dialup and cannot play with your deb ;<
[05:57] <valtaric> hey i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing and i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem i am having..
[05:57] <seth_k> trung: and then after it's running, use transset
[05:57] <seth_k> valtaric: we're all here, just ask :)
[05:57] <harris|u> valtaric, just ask :p
[05:57] <valtaric> ok i'm trying to figure out how to install programs once i d/l them but i can't get it to work..
[05:57] <trung> searcher`, "xcompmgr"
[05:57] <trung> seth_k, xcompmgr
[05:58] <GigaClon> oops my bad, I mean that was the correct line
[05:58] <trung> seth_k, "command not found"
[05:58] <seth_k> trung: you most likely need to install it, through synaptic
[05:58] <adwait> trung: sudo apt-get install xcompmgr
[05:58] <tiglionabbit> !info xcompmgr
[05:58] <ubotu> xcompmgr: (X composition manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+cvs.20041109-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[05:59] <valtaric> can anyone give me a walkthrough on how to install a .rpm file?
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: you probably don't want to install an rpm file
[06:00] <trung> !universe
[06:00] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[06:00] <valtaric> on well i d/l a wineX program that is a .rpm and i was wondering how to install it.
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: this is ubuntu now, so we're in .deb land.  Is there anywhere you can find a .deb of what you want instead, or find a repository for it?
[06:00] <trung> !repositories
[06:00] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:00] <adwait> whats a composite extention?
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: that is cedega
[06:01] <valtaric> yup.
[06:01] <nickrud> tell trung about components
[06:01] <nickrud> all the dumb stuff
[06:01] <concept10> Anyone know how to have the GNOME panel remember locations of widgets when rebooting, etc
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: if you must use that particular rpm, you can convert it to a deb with alien I believe.  But there are other ways of getting cedega
[06:01] <adwait> valtaric: u can convert rpm to deb using alien if u cant fine a deb
[06:01] <nickrud> ubotu tell trung about components
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> concept10: it should do that automatically
[06:02] <concept10> tiglionabbit, it doesnt
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> concept10: does for me...
[06:02] <GigaClon> valtaric: rpm is alien -d /path/to/rpm
[06:02] <adwait> can someone tell me? whats a composite extention?
[06:02] <Amaranth> yay, i go home tomorrow night!
[06:02] <GigaClon> that gets you a deb
[06:02] <valtaric> do you know of a website where i can find a cedega.deb file?
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: transgaming.com
[06:02] <nalioth_zZz> Amaranth: and i'm sure you'll be happy
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> but it costs you, it's a subscription thing...  =[
[06:03] <valtaric> ok and once i get it how would i go about installing it?
[06:03] <tiglionabbit> dpkg --install thecedegafile.deb
[06:03] <concept10> tiglionabbit, for example.. the panel crashed a min ago and all the icons got switched around
[06:03] <tiglionabbit> concept10: perhaps if you had a normal shutdown, rather than crashing it, it would be happier
[06:03] <Amaranth> nalioth_zZz: hehe
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> concept10: I mean a normal logout...
[06:04] <concept10> tiglionabbit,  nevermind... you dont understand
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> k fine, dunno what your prob is
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> can I have a link to the pages for sorting out apt to the latest repos
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:04] <adwait> valtaric: dpkg -i <whtever.deb>
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> oh
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> found it
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> dw
[06:05] <adwait> !repositories
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[06:05] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> lol
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: here's the officially supported repos
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[06:05] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> is there a good podcasting tool?
[06:05] <nickrud> and the other half
[06:05] <nickrud> !components
[06:05] <ubotu> well, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[06:06] <spanglesontoast> rite I thought it was compacted into the www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:06] <nickrud> sections, per debian
[06:06] <adwait> 1ubuntuguide
[06:06] <nickrud> sort of :)
[06:06] <adwait> 1ubuntuguide
[06:07] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> don't use ubuntuguide
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: dont use ubuntuguide
[06:07] <adwait> !ubuntuguide
[06:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntuguide
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> dah
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[06:07] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> !ubguide
[06:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubguide was Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> we are working on a new new users guide.  Read it instead
[06:07] <nickrud> and the only real reason, is that newbies may not understand the steps.
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: the u'guide will lead you into evil
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> ok
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> I wrote the NewUbuntuUsers guide for now, while the rest of us pull together an official guide to it all
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> god I haven't used ubuntu for ages
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> where the file i need to dump that stuff into?
[06:08] <mwp> I'm wondering if someone can help me set my trip_points in ACPI. Everytime I try to echo > to it I get permission denied.
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: which file?  /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[06:09] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:09] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:09] <bigfoot1> Hello all: Is there a way to fix the memory leak of Firefox?
[06:09] <spanglesontoast> ah
[06:09] <spanglesontoast> ty
[06:09] <nickrud> Hopefully, then next iteration of the ubuntu guide will drop the bad stuff (like the repositories) and get some documentation
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: compile a daily build?  dunno
[06:09] <D1> anyone know of a good mp3 tagger/renamer for ubuntu/linux?
[06:09] <nickrud> easytag
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> nickrud: the next iteration is here:
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> !newuser
[06:10] <ubotu> nalioth_zZz: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> !newusers
[06:10] <ubotu> it has been said that newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[06:10] <D1> thanks.
[06:10] <nickrud> nalioth_zZz I breeze over gmane when I can, and I caught a bit about licensing for the ubuntu guide, so I have hopes
[06:11] <spanglesontoast> on that pastebin for the sources do I just remove everything that's in there now
[06:11] <spanglesontoast> or do i just paste at the bottom?
[06:11] <mwp> D1 ... I wrote one in python a long time ago. The id3 tags are just encoded into the mp3 as text at the end of the mp3
[06:11] <nickrud> I only do the wiki ;P
[06:11] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: you can back up your existing .list and just use the pasted one
[06:12] <nickrud> or ubotu
[06:12] <GigaClon> !pygame
[06:12] <ubotu> GigaClon: Are you smoking crack?
[06:12] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[06:12] <D1> audio tag tool looks good but I dont think its .deb
[06:12] <GigaClon> it seem my deb package requires pygame to work, but pygame isn't a package in the system
[06:12] <tiglionabbit> !info easytag
[06:13] <ubotu> easytag: (viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.99.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 667 kB, Installed size: 2088 kB
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> D1: get it from apt
[06:13] <mwp> D1: apt-cache search ID3
[06:13] <D1> ok
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> !info ID3
[06:13] <ubotu> id3: (An ID3 Tag Editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> !python
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, spanglesontoast
[06:14] <siimo> is there any way to limit a ubuntu computer connecteed to my router to 256kbps downstream max?
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> !spangles
[06:14] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I don't know
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: don't expect ubotu to know everything, just topics we've put in it
[06:14] <cafuego> siimo: Yes.
[06:14] <siimo> i want to game on the other computer and i dont want my brother leeching slowing me down
[06:14] <cafuego> !info python
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> lol
[06:14] <ubotu> python: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)), section python, is standard. Version: 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 532 kB
[06:14] <siimo> cafuego, how
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> siimo: are there options on your router?
[06:15] <jtan325> what does ubuntu use instead of .xsession?
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: instead of?
[06:15] <spanglesontoast> what's the best podcasting tool?
[06:16] <jtan325> is that what gdm uses?
[06:16] <siimo> tiglionabbit, theres QoS but only upstream
[06:16] <jtan325> .xsession?
[06:16] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: ubuntu does use .xsession
[06:16] <jtan325> hmmm
[06:16] <D1> oooo, its called tagtool
[06:16] <siimo> tiglionabbit, is there a way by installing a program on that PC itself
[06:16] <cafuego> siimo: First off, try 'trickle'. if that won't do, give 'shaper' a try.
[06:16] <tiglionabbit> siimo: I don't know
[06:16] <siimo> like netlimiter on windows
[06:16] <jtan325> tiglionabbit, do i have to do anything special
[06:16] <jtan325> to make .xsession load
[06:17] <thr1ce> does anyone have streaming trailers (say .mov's) working by chance?
[06:17] <jtan325> i.e. i put a simple line "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession
[06:17] <jtan325> and regardless of which WM i use, it doesn't load
[06:17] <spanglesontoast> !podcasting
[06:17] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:17] <siimo> cafuego, thanks ill try
[06:17] <jtan325> or, at least mozilla-firefox doesn't run
[06:17] <adwait> thr1ce: i hv streaming vids workin, not sure if they are .mov, try getting the media connector extention for firefox
[06:18] <biscuit> Hi, im having troubles with installing Wine
[06:18] <biscuit> Can anyone help
[06:18] <adwait> troubles like......?
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: well, there's system -> preferences -> sessions, Startup Items tab
[06:18] <jtan325> but isn't that only for gnome
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: yep
[06:18] <biscuit> It goes on and on for like hours with all this stuff in the terminal, and then says No rule to make Target
[06:18] <jtan325> so gdm doesn't actually use .xsession?
[06:18] <ed1t> where can i find .bashrc to add alias?
[06:18] <jtan325> or does it?
[06:19] <jtan325> ed1t, it'll be in your hom directory
[06:19] <biscuit> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `../../dlls/ddraw/tests/ddraw_test.exe.so', needed by `ddraw_test.exe.so'.  Stop.
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I don't know
[06:20] <ed1t> jtan325, so type pico /home/.bashrc?
[06:20] <jtan325> ed1t, no
[06:20] <jtan325> pico /home/(your username)/.bashrc
[06:20] <nickrud> biscuit is there any particular reason you're compiling wine?
[06:20] <ed1t> k
[06:20] <reka> ed1t: ~/,bashrc
[06:20] <biscuit> To run Dreamweaver on Linux
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> reka: with a .
[06:20] <FlannelKing> Why would you want to use dreamweaver?
[06:20] <biscuit> And MX Flash
[06:21] <mwp> Well I figured it out. For some reason I couldn't sudo and echo -n "" > trip_points. When I sudo su - root it works
[06:21] <biscuit> And there are other things too
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> biscuit: if I were you, I would check out some of ubuntu's html editing things
[06:21] <jtan325> so does anyone know if ubuntu uses the .xsession or not?
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:21] <thr1ce> adwait, not bad...no sound though
[06:21] <cafuego> jtan325: If you use gdm, then yes.
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: you're right, I'm pretty sure it doesn't
[06:21] <FlannelKing> That wont help with the flash though, but yeah, dreamweaver has better alternatives
[06:22] <jtan325> cafuego, then if i put "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession, it should load right?
[06:22] <jtan325> and i definitely use gdm
[06:22] <jtan325> i read somewhere that gdm switched to some other scheme
[06:22] <jtan325> and i am trying to figure out what that is
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> tried "man gdm" ?
[06:22] <cafuego> jtan325: it uses .xsession. Just check if the session type upon login is set to GNoome or not
[06:23] <cafuego> Windows users want crap performance, an ugly UI and buggy software.
[06:23] <cafuego> If they didn't want that, they'd use something else.
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> or they just want to play games
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> :P
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> cedega sucks for ati
[06:24] <nickrud> no, the want gnome, they just don't know it yet :)
[06:24] <jtan325> cafuego, i am trying to use a different window manager
[06:24] <jtan325> or else it'd be easy
[06:25] <thr1ce> damnit, streaming seems impossible
[06:25] <ed1t> how do i get those monitors on my desktop? to show like RAM usage and stuff
[06:26] <thr1ce> gkrellm
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: I don't know, but you can use applications -> system tools -> system monitor
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> !info gkrellm
[06:26] <ubotu> gkrellm: (Multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 952 kB
[06:26] <cafuego> thr1ce: mplayer played a RM from the bbc just fine here, before.
[06:26] <nickrud> ed1t there are various things for that, just don't use gdesklets
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: do you have w32codecs?
[06:26] <thr1ce> yes, but ubuntu requires you to install so many uneeded things for mplayer
[06:26] <thr1ce> yes, I do
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> and mozilla-mplayer ?
[06:27] <thr1ce> i don't have mplayer installed
[06:27] <thr1ce> i refuse
[06:27] <ed1t> nickrud, which one do you recommend?
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: okay, then get vlc-mozilla-plugin
[06:27] <cafuego> thr1ce: if you installed Ubuntu and didn't remove all that pythn shit, I hardly think you can complain about mplayer bloat.
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: or figure out how to make totem-xine do it
[06:27] <nickrud> gkrellm, if you aren't satisfied withe gnome applets
[06:27] <thr1ce> xmms is a dep for example
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> dep of what?
[06:27] <cafuego> !depends mplayer
[06:27] <thr1ce> mplayer
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> well that doesn't matter, you can get beep-media-player anyway
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> I thought xmms was already part of ubuntu
[06:28] <thr1ce> no
[06:28] <reka> it's not
[06:29] <tiglionabbit> !depends ubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <adwait> :p
[06:29] <tiglionabbit> oh shite
[06:29] <cafuego> Yes, it depends on the output libs (sound|video) and xmms
[06:29] <ch_604> O_O
[06:29] <reka> thr1ce: i agree, mplayer shouldn't be including xmms if that is the case.
[06:29] <cafuego> Probably for mp3 support
[06:29] <thr1ce> no, their codecs pack covers pretty much everything
[06:29] <ch_604> ok i have a compile problem
[06:29] <reka> cafuego: doesn't the mplayer codec package have mp3 included?
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> ImportError: No module named wx
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:29] <ch_604> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:29] <cafuego> reka: No idea
[06:30] <Sir-Tez> what's the correct package name for the Microsoft TTF fonts?
[06:30] <cafuego> ch_604: Did you install the conpiler properly? What are you compiling?
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[06:30] <cafuego> Sir-Tez: msttcorefonts
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> noo, no ubotu!  =[
[06:30] <IceDC571> wow what a day.. Mandriva buys Lycoris in order to compete with leading linux distros and Microsoft buys some company for its own anti-virus solution
[06:30] <reka> tiglionabbit: you wore him out :)
[06:30] <cafuego> i'll check teh bot
[06:30] <ch_604> cafuego: compiling bmp. started with ./configure and it game me that
[06:30] <spanglesontoast> what is ImportError: No module named wx
[06:30] <spanglesontoast>  ?
[06:31] <reka> ch_604: why compile?  just apt-get it
[06:31] <IceDC571> ch_604: you are compiling bmp?? hmm..
[06:31] <ch_604> it wont
[06:31] <adwait> !multiple_sounds
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> ch_604: get build-essential if you must compile
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the bot is dead
[06:31] <thr1ce> * ubotu has quit (Excess Flood)
[06:31] <ch_604> i do sudo apt-get install beep-media-player and it cant find tha pak
[06:31] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: You broke it!!!
[06:31] <Sir-Tez> cafuego, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate -- that's what I'm getting
[06:31] <adwait> ooh yeah.....i thought he would come back a lil while
[06:31] <hondje> Hello, #ubuntu. I'm getting an assload of errors about not being able to find various usb modules at boot during that modules dependancy checking thing
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> what you're looking for is this though, adwait: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:31] <IceDC571> ch_604: well the repositories have the latest version of bmp, i dont see why you should compile it
[06:32] <adwait> thx tiglionabbit
[06:32] <hondje> Anyone else get that from the latest kernel upgrade?
[06:32] <harris|u> I'm trying to put something in my X-Chat folder, where can I find that folder? ;o
[06:32] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories
[06:32] <thr1ce> well, I am able to stream movies, but my sound doesn't work
[06:32] <virgule> hellllllo ladies!
[06:32] <thr1ce> soooo
[06:32] <cafuego> !info msttcorefonts
[06:32] <ch_604> cause it wont find the package, and the link off the bmp site is dead
[06:32] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[06:32] <IceDC571> harris|u: try .xchat?
[06:32] <thr1ce> !depends mplayer-386
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: bot is dead
[06:32] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo rather
[06:32] <nickrud> ubotu tell Sir-Tez about components
[06:32] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: No, he's not.
[06:32] <ch_604> thx
[06:32] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: I just restarted 'im
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> oh oh, nm, guess it's back now
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> cool
[06:32] <nickrud> is the bot really dead?
[06:33] <thr1ce> yeah, run !depends mplayer-386 once
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> nickrud: not anymore.  cafuego here has performed a ressurection
[06:33] <nickrud> ah, not
[06:33] <cafuego> Sir-Tez: Check that to have multiverse in your sources.list
[06:33] <ed1t> tiglionabbit, do you know any good thingies like gdisklets?
[06:33] <cafuego> Nothing like a good 'killall -9 blootbot'
[06:33] <nickrud> ooh, so now I know the bones :)
[06:34] <reka> nickrud: you couldv'e done a /whois ubotu
[06:34] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: nope
[06:34] <tiglionabbit> !info gdesklets
[06:34] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[06:34] <nickrud> reka did that a while ago, but I do have some repect moment to monent :)
[06:34] <harris|u> IceDC571, in ~/?
[06:36] <kvidell> I knew a man, Bojangles, and he'd dance for you... in worn out shoes...
[06:36] <bojangles> where did that Church of Foamy guy go who runs this website....and why does he want to promote everyone to commit suicide as you can see by pressing the play button at this url
[06:36] <spanglesontoast> pyxmms where can I grab it?
[06:36] <bojangles> http://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=91
[06:37] <cafuego> Foamy is the antichrist, he does not worship me.
[06:37] <kvidell> lol
[06:37] <kvidell> bojangles: You've never watched IllWillPress have you?
[06:37] <kvidell> It's a cartoon series :-P
[06:37] <kvidell> I doubt he actually wants you to kill yourself.
[06:37] <kvidell> just a cartoon
[06:38] <xlsMessenger> do i have to close the apps if i'm doing a apt-get upgrade?
[06:38] <cafuego> xlsMessenger: nope
[06:38] <ed1t> does ubuntu support fluxbox?
[06:38] <cafuego> ed1t: yes
[06:38] <kvidell> ed1t: yes.
[06:38] <cafuego> xlsMessenger: Just restart any aps that get upgraded when the upgrade is done.
[06:39] <cafuego> fist, too
[06:39] <xlsMessenger> cafuego, thanks
[06:39] <ed1t> is it in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:39] <reka> xlsMessenger: are you using backports?
[06:39] <cafuego> ed1t: Why not check first, then ask?
[06:39] <ed1t> k
[06:39] <ZeXr0> I got woody netinstall but I don't know how I can netinstall it :s
[06:39] <cafuego> ZeXr0: #debian is there -->
[06:39] <adwait> ed1t: it is thr
[06:40] <adwait> ed1t: u can use apt-cache search <whatever> to search for any package :)
[06:40] <ch_604> reka: that page does not exist
[06:40] <ZeXr0> well cafuego it's to install ubuntu
[06:40] <ed1t> ooo thx adwait
[06:40] <adwait> np
[06:40] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo
[06:40] <newbie> i found this strange binary file ##picat copying itself on some of my directories is it a virus
[06:40] <nickrud> ZeXr0 are you trying to get from a floppy boot to ubuntu, by any chance?
[06:41] <valtaric> can anyone tell me how to install a debian program?
[06:41] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: dpkg --install theprogram.deb
[06:41] <ZeXr0> nickrud yeah nalioth_zZz told be how via debian woody install
[06:41] <cafuego> ZeXr0: Nevertheless a woody install is a #debian issue.
[06:41] <ch_604> reka: This page does not exist yet.
[06:42] <nickrud> valtaric sure, I can, but, why ever would you want to?
[06:42] <cafuego> THogh woody is old and upping it to Ubuntu will quite probably fail.
[06:42] <Speedy2> Is this package gtk-qt-engine supposed to be in "universe" ? I have that enabled, did apt-get update but can't seem to find it
[06:42] <PPC_Guy> hey all, question.. Asked earlier but didn't get anything back.. Anyone have bitchx installed with warty?
[06:42] <ZeXr0> nalioth_zZz told me that itis possible via woody and not via sarge
[06:42] <nickrud> ZeXr0 I've seen a few links that may help, but I've never tried. A second.
[06:43] <Speedy2> Ah found it
[06:43] <Speedy2> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[06:43] <cafuego> ZeXr0: I imagine you need to boot the cd, install, edit the sources.list file
[06:43] <ed1t> why not just use ubuntu instead of getting debian woody and then upgrading
[06:43] <xlsMessenger> reka, yes, i'm using backport
[06:43] <tiglionabbit> is there any way that I can play both RealPlayer and Quicktime files in Totem?  With totem-gstreamer, it plays quicktime, and with totem-xine it plays realplayer.  But I can't have both at once!
[06:43] <ZeXr0> I can't boot the cd
[06:43] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:43] <ZeXr0> I only got floppyu
[06:43] <Geoffrian> Could someone please tell me how to extract files from an ISO without burning and mounting?????????
[06:43] <ZeXr0> else I would get the installation for Ubuntu
[06:43] <nickrud> ZeXr0 but, what cafuego says is basically what you'll do
[06:44] <ZeXr0> I don't have a cddrive
[06:44] <crimsun> Geoffrian: load the loop kernel module, mount the iso using the loop option, then retrieve the file.
[06:44] <xlsMessenger> reka, do i need to do something else if i'm using backports?
[06:44] <IceDC571> what the crap.. gtk2 and qt?
[06:44] <IceDC571> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[06:44] <Speedy2> IceDC571: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - Makes your GTK 2 apps look like Qt ones
[06:44] <jtan325> man this is making me pull my hair out. does anyone know how to get programs to start on log-in, when using a different window manager than the defualt gnome?
[06:44] <reka> xlsMessenger: you should limit your use of backports...upgrading with BP in sources.list could possibly lead to problems
[06:44] <IceDC571> oh
[06:44] <Geoffrian> crimsun:  I do not completely follow.
[06:44] <ch_604> reka: youre not helping, that page isnt there
[06:44] <reka> jtan325: what WM?
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: small 't'
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: i've got the page open right now
[06:45] <crimsun> Geoffrian: sudo modprobe loop && mount -o loop foo.iso /somewhere && cp $whatever $there
[06:45] <Geoffrian> I had retrieved a file from Ubuntu that told me how to mount an ISO, but it did not show to files I would see if I actually ran the CD.
[06:45] <ZeXr0> if I had a cddrive, I would take a floppy to boot from cdrom, but actually I don't have a cdrom and the Netboot isn't woking so I'm trying with woody netinstall
[06:45] <ch_604> ooook thx
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: yeah, sorry bout that :)
[06:45] <jtan325> reka, openbox
[06:46] <jtan325> reka, opebox's docs say to use .xsession if you're using gdm (which i am)
[06:46] <jtan325> but it is not running
[06:46] <GigaClon> ubuntu have a common lisp compiler?
[06:46] <xlsMessenger> reka, just one: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[06:46] <xlsMessenger> is it ok?
[06:46] <crimsun> GigaClon: sure. Enable universe and search for one.
[06:46] <IceDC571> ubuntu has a lisp?
[06:47] <cafuego> lithp
[06:47] <nickrud> ZeXr0 the links I remembered don't mention the woody floppies; nalioth is not stupid, so, maybe you'll want to wait till he's around again
[06:47] <reka> xlsMessenger: the general advice is to only grab packages you need from BP and then comment it out
[06:47] <jtan325> reka, do you have any ideas?
[06:47] <bojangles> of course maybe foamy was trying to get people to commit suicide so they would never know about this graphic scene from GTA
[06:47] <bojangles> http://www.gtasanandreas.net/screenshots/gallery.php?image=1914
[06:47] <xlsMessenger> reka, i see, thanks
[06:47] <Ahab> who actually runs http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/?
[06:48] <Geoffrian> Crimsun:  What should I put in for $whatever $there???
[06:48] <IceDC571> a fedora user
[06:48] <Geoffrian> My mount point?  (/media/iso)?
[06:48] <crimsun> Geoffrian: the file you want and its destination, respectively
[06:48] <bojangles> it takes a while to load...but it clearly shows all the big niggers that work for the filthy rich JEWS....and how they enjoy raping all the white women
[06:48] <hondje> ZeXr0: you can do net install from woody, just pin to hoary in /etc/apt/preferences
[06:48] <reka> jtan325: not really, i'm not really familiar with the WM
[06:48] <Aerebus> Can anyone here thats using Ubuntu compile the source code of a program for me or help me with it? i've been having one tough time here trying to get this little program working and i keep getting the same error
[06:48] <bojangles> just like that bastard Dr. Martin Luther King
[06:48] <jtan325> reka, but the WM doesn't really have anything to do with my question
[06:49] <ZeXr0> hondje actually there's nothing installed yet...
[06:49] <Speedy2> Aerebus:  What's the error?
[06:49] <crimsun> bojangles: quit it.
[06:49] <Geoffrian> foo.iso is the want file though?  Now you're confusing me.
[06:49] <jtan325> i would like to know where is the actual file that gets executed by gdm when a user logs in
[06:49] <Aerebus> Speedy2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/465
[06:49] <jtan325> or the user-level file
[06:49] <GigaClon> I don't see lithp in synaptic
[06:50] <spanglesontoast> what's the best podcasting client?
[06:50] <Aerebus> Speed2, the file is hosted on sourceforge if you wanna take a look at the fustration i'm dealing with lol
[06:50] <IceDC571> spanglesontoast: itunes
[06:50] <GigaClon> lol @ IceDC571
[06:50] <Speedy2> Aerebus: Try doing sudo apt-get install libglademm2.0-dev
[06:51] <IceDC571> did ubotu die?
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> there isn't a version for linu
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> linux
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> or ubuntu
[06:51] <Am|NickTaken> ubotu: smeg
[06:51] <IceDC571> there's a version for wine ;)
[06:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[06:51] <Am|NickTaken> nope, ubotu is fine
[06:51] <siimo> does hoary recognise/support sata controllers
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> siimo, mine does
[06:51] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[06:51] <crimsun> siimo: yes, but you may need a newer kernel, like the one in Breezy
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: :D
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Who added that?
[06:52] <IceDC571> Amaranth: i thought you did?
[06:52] <siimo> crimsun, i tried installing fedora on it and it simply froze saying no hdd found
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Oh yeah, I was showing someone how ubotu did actions.
[06:52] <Amaranth> ubotu: forget Amaranth
[06:52] <ubotu> i forgot amaranth, Amaranth
[06:52] <siimo> mind you this was a 2 yr old fedora
[06:52] <crimsun> siimo: sorry, don't know too much regarding Fedora
[06:53] <ed1t> crap...i installed kubuntu to test it out and now all my settings are changed on gnome...i even uninstalled it but my default browser is changed to konquere
[06:53] <IceDC571> ed1t: isnt kde great?
[06:54] <ed1t> no
[06:54] <ed1t> gnome rocks!!!
[06:54] <ed1t> kde sucks
[06:54] <crimsun> let's keep the desktop environment wars outta here, shall we? :)
[06:54] <ed1t> heh
[06:54] <IceDC571> no....
[06:54] <IceDC571> explorer.exe rocks!!!!!!!
[06:54] <ed1t> so how do i change my setting back to gnome?
[06:54] <ed1t> hahhaha
[06:55] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: rofl
[06:55] <Aerebus> Speedy2, lol it worked thanks man
[06:55] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: when you login, click on sessions, and select gnome
[06:56] <IceDC571> i compiled sharpmusique.. and it created sharpmusique.exe i was like what the crap
[06:56] <bojangles> crimsun, the Foamy guy was the one who came in here and started talking about games....in particular he mentioned the famous one 7th Guest and i suspect he was trying to hide the graphics scenes in GTA from everyone that cause it to be a bestseller
[06:56] <nickrud> I talked to Foamy for a bit, he seemed normal
[06:57] <IceDC571> i love xfce right now, i used to hate it
[06:57] <Aerebus> Ice, isnt xfce the terminal or something?
[06:57] <crimsun> bojangles: that's great. What does that have to do with your irc client espousing various racial slurs, regardless of "who said it first"?
[06:57] <IceDC571> Aerebus: its another window manager
[06:57] <Speedy2> Aerebus: You're welcome.  If you look at your output, it was failing because it didn't have that library.  What I did was sudo apt-get update . then apt-cache search libglademm
[06:58] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: no, it's another desktop envirnoment like gnome
[06:58] <nickrud> but, considering who may run for offices ...
[06:58] <Speedy2> Aerebus: It returned me the options and I gave you the "dev" option
[06:58] <noob-leech> I'm planning to format my NTFS partitions...
[06:59] <ed1t> blah
[06:59] <IceDC571> was OS X really based off of freebsd?
[06:59] <noob-leech> I just wonder... which format would you recommend?
[06:59] <crimsun> IceDC571: userspace portions, yes
[06:59] <ed1t> it still got konquerer and bunch of other stuff
[06:59] <sproingie> IceDC571: it's based off of mach
[06:59] <ed1t> i uninstalled kde and made gdm as a default
[06:59] <nickrud> noob-leech ntfs for your real windows, a fat32 for moving things, and the rest linux
[06:59] <sproingie> IceDC571: freebsd was used for the unix layer.  cocoa was based off of nextstep
[06:59] <Aerebus> tiglionabbit, i've seen on art-gnome these terminal themes, are those for gnome or xfce?
[07:00] <IceDC571> terminal themes?
[07:00] <Aerebus> like hacked boarders etc
[07:00] <IceDC571> i think you might be talking about metacity?
[07:00] <Aerebus> i'll find a linky
[07:00] <ed1t> BLAHHHHHH!!! i hate kde....freaking deleted all my favs, everything from gnome
[07:00] <ed1t> i mean from firefox
[07:00] <holycow> it shouldnt of done that
[07:01] <holycow> what do you mean kde deleted it?
[07:01] <noob-leech> nickrud: So, if I want to use a partition for both Windows and Linux, is FAT32 the only choice available?
[07:01] <nickrud> ed1t that'll teach you, create a new user for anything wierd, like kde :)
[07:01] <IceDC571> nickrud: you can use ext3 and reiserfs.. but you'll have to install a driver in windows
[07:01] <nickrud> noob-leech no, there are others, that's just what I am comfortable with
[07:01] <sproingie> noob-leech: if you want both to write to it, yes.  there's ways around it, but they're not pretty
[07:01] <ed1t> i mean when i open firefox now...all my favorites are gone, other settings and now konquerer is my default browser even though i delete kde
[07:01] <ed1t> kde is evil!
[07:02] <sproingie> noob-leech: one involves using colinux in windows and running samba on colinux
[07:02] <holycow> ed1t, chances are its not gone
[07:02] <ed1t> then?
[07:02] <nickrud> It's been hacked to death, so it works
[07:02] <holycow> just a new profile under firefox is created
[07:02] <holycow> with a blank bookmarks.html file
[07:02] <holycow> check your ./mozilla dir in your home dir
[07:02] <holycow> your looking for bookmarks.html file
[07:02] <holycow> or singular of that
[07:03] <noob-leech> Ouch.... I just want to use some Windows app... but WINE never works for me... =/
[07:03] <Aerebus> IceDC, http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~slabosz/wordpress/?page_id=20
[07:03] <noob-leech> Thanks for your suggestions, sproingie and nickrud.
[07:03] <ed1t> there is no booksmarks.html file
[07:03] <sproingie> noob-leech: then download it to your windows partition.  linux can read ntfs just fine.  it's write that has problems
[07:03] <Aerebus> those look like terminals to me but they say xfce
[07:04] <ed1t> grrr kde
[07:04] <ed1t> this pisses me off
[07:04] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: what does?
[07:04] <ed1t> kde
[07:04] <IceDC571> Aerebus: those are xfce themes, they are just showing it off by using terminals lol
[07:04] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: why?
[07:04] <hondje> can anyone lsmod | grep ohci for me?
[07:04] <sproingie> ed1t: not to deflate the kde-hatred you're obviously enjoying, but konq doesn't touch firefox
[07:04] <Aerebus> blah
[07:04] <Aerebus> lol
[07:05] <Aerebus> i want me terminal t look like the borderless one!
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ohci1394               34596  0
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ieee1394              108312  2 ohci1394,sbp2
[07:05] <ed1t> i installed kde and it deleted all my firefox settings, favorites, and stuff
[07:05] <hondje> thanks tiglionabbit
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> hondje: ^
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[07:05] <IceDC571> btw, isnt apple's safari browser based off of konqueror?
[07:05] <ed1t> sproingie, i dunno wat happened then...coz everythings gone
[07:05] <sproingie> ed1t: i find firefox does that just fine on its own
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: it wont have.  You can create different profiles in firefox.  Make sure you're using the same one
[07:06] <ed1t> im using the default profile
[07:06] <IceDC571> i just hate how in kde everything you see is Kthis, Kthat
[07:06] <jtan325> does ANYONE know what file gdm executes on each user's login?
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> rofl, IceDC571
[07:06] <ed1t> lol
[07:06] <jtan325> i.e. when you edit "sessions" using the gnome preferences
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> I think they were Trying to do that.
[07:07] <jtan325> what file does that edit?
[07:07] <david_> anyone know of any good dock apps / launcher type things
[07:07] <nickrud> venom has no value, if you know what it's about :)
[07:07] <jtan325> this is ridiculous, it seems like no one knows the answer to this
[07:07] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: we don't.  Try asking on ubuntuforums
[07:07] <tiglionabbit> .org
[07:07] <nickrud> jtan325 I've been using gnome for over 5 years, and have never found that file.
[07:07] <IceDC571> david_: have you tried gDesklets?
[07:08] <nickrud> jtan325 I use .gnomerc
[07:08] <ed1t> never touching kde again
[07:08] <jtan325> hmmmm nickrud, that is interesting
[07:08] <david_> IceDC571, not yet
[07:08] <spanglesontoast> wheres xmms-mp3?
[07:08] <bruno> can someone tell me if linux-image-2.6.10-5-K7 works wich sempron?
[07:08] <IceDC571> david_: theres also engage but its a pain to set up
[07:09] <crimsun> bruno: yes
[07:09] <bruno> crimsun, tks
[07:09] <crimsun> yw
[07:09] <bojangles> crimsun, well Crimsun you obviously must not have a treasured little girl that you would not like raped by big niggers to produce off-colored children....and perhaps even kill them like OJSimpson did.
[07:09] <eliUbuntu> question, why does xine play dvd's at a non-uniform rate?
[07:09] <bruno> crimsun, to install -K7 package, do i have do deinstall -386 package?
[07:09] <nickrud> jtan325 .gnomerc is used like .xsession, as best I have tested
[07:09] <IceDC571> everything works with sempron, unless its SSE2 or AMD64... or PPC.... also SSE3
[07:09] <IceDC571> also hyperthreading
[07:09] <jtan325> nickrud, have you used other WM's?
[07:10] <IceDC571> and SMP
[07:10] <reka> eliUbuntu: you probably need to enable DMA
[07:10] <david_> IceDC571, yah ive tried engage but didnt get it working
[07:10] <jtan325> nickrud, and is it ~/.gnomerc?
[07:10] <eliUbuntu> reka: how do you enable DMA mode?
[07:10] <nickrud> jtan325 name them, I've probably at least looked at them
[07:10] <IceDC571> !dma
[07:10] <eliUbuntu> in xine?
[07:10] <IceDC571> eliUbuntu: type !dma, ubotu will give you the answers
[07:11] <daniels> crimsun: oh, sorry, didn't see our +q
[07:11] <daniels> er, your +q
[07:11] <nickrud> jtan325 ~/.gomerc: currently I set the PATH there, so any scripts I want from ~/bin are available from ALT-F2
[07:11] <eliUbuntu> !dma
[07:11] <crimsun> daniels: np
[07:11] <spanglesontoast> when can I grab xmms-mp3?
[07:11] <reka> eliUbuntu: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: you want to play mp3s?  Get gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:12] <eliUbuntu> thanks reka
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:12] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[07:12] <spanglesontoast> what happened to xmms?
[07:12] <eliUbuntu> checking it out now
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: beep-media-player is better than xmms anyway.  But yeah, you can get that if you want
[07:12] <spanglesontoast> where?
[07:12] <reka> eliUbuntu: you'll need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf if you want it to be enabled on startup
[07:13] <reka> spanglesontoast: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:13] <IceDC571> apt-get? are we back in the 90's??
[07:13] <GigaClon> !clisp
[07:13] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, GigaClon
[07:14] <noob-leech> I've just come across a package, which contains a .so and a .la file.
[07:14] <IceDC571> noob-leech: yes?
[07:14] <noob-leech> Does anyone know if there is any way to install that package?
[07:14] <hondje> what do ?--S-----t permissions mean?
[07:14] <IceDC571> noob-leech: whats the full filename of the package?
[07:14] <noob-leech> IceDC571, bmp-flac-plugin ..
[07:14] <crimsun> GigaClon: look at gcl, for instance
[07:15] <ch_604> ok, still cant find a deb for bmp
[07:15] <noob-leech> It contains libbmp-flac.so and libbmp-flac.la ..
[07:15] <IceDC571> noob-leech: the flac plugin doesnt work for bmp unless you compile it
[07:15] <reka> ch_604: it's in universe
[07:16] <reka> ch_604: did you enable it using the link i gave?
[07:16] <dabaR> hondje: where did you get that?
[07:16] <GigaClon> I am trying to install clisp, the ubuntu website lists it as a package but I don't see it in synaptic
[07:16] <ch_604> sure did
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> !info clisp
[07:16] <ubotu> clisp: (GNU CLISP, a Common Lisp implementation), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1:2.33.2-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 2206 kB, Installed size: 6908 kB
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> GigaClon: it is in the universe repository
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[07:16] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:16] <hondje> dabaR: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/usb/host
[07:16] <noob-leech> IceDC571, let me try to compile it again....
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> read that guide, it should explain how to add it
[07:16] <dabaR> symbolic link?
[07:16] <hondje> Yes
[07:16] <reka> ch_604: how are you installing?
[07:17] <reka> ch_604: apt-get or CL?
[07:17] <reka> whoops
[07:17] <nickrud> jtan325 actually, the gnome session file is found as ~/.gnome2/session
[07:17] <dabaR> then thats what the [perms mean, maybe.
[07:17] <reka> synaptic or CL? :)
[07:17] <ch_604> apt-get
[07:17] <jtan325> nickrud, yeah
[07:17] <hondje> dabaR: Maybe, the ? is what throws me
[07:17] <reka> and you ran sudo apt-get update?
[07:18] <dabaR> its in the place wehre you usually have the d, or -
[07:18] <ch_604> yea, there was nothing to update
[07:18] <noob-leech> The bmp-flac plugin... I can't seem to compile it. =/
[07:18] <nickrud> jtan325 I actually knew that, I forgot until I thought again
[07:18] <dabaR> maybe it dont know if its a dir or not, so it says ?
[07:18] <dabaR> I mean, thats just a guess....
[07:18] <reka> ch_604: then you haven't saved the file or something's wrong with your sources.list
[07:18] <hondje> it's not a dir
[07:18] <hondje> those say d there
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> thanks reka
[07:19] <reka> ch_604: ready-to-use sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:19] <hondje> I'll have to just whip out my bash book
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> it worked
[07:19] <reka> eliUbuntu: goodo
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> another question, what is a good website developing program for ubuntu? or linux in general?
[07:19] <dabaR> hehe, hondje, do csh in a terminal, do ls, and tell me if it changed;)
[07:19] <hosler> Who needs edonkey when you have google?
[07:20] <hondje> dabaR: eww, csh ;)
[07:20] <dabaR> lets do some c shell scripting together:)
[07:20] <hondje> by the sea shore
[07:20] <absinthe_> lol
[07:20] <dabaR> lol
[07:20] <hondje> yep, sure does
[07:21] <dabaR> hondje: changed???
[07:21] <hondje> yeah
[07:21] <hosler> Does steam work well with cedega?
[07:21] <dabaR> wow
[07:21] <hondje> with a % and everything
[07:21] <dabaR> into what
[07:21] <dabaR> ?
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, no not really
[07:21] <dabaR> I mean, the permissions changed?
[07:21] <noob-leech> Hmm... I can't compile the bmp-flac plugin...
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, it is VERY slow with halflife 2
[07:21] <hosler> absinthe_: what does work well with cedega?
[07:21] <noob-leech> Would anyone here please check what has gone wrong?
[07:21] <ramiro> holas
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, the original half life works well.
[07:22] <ramiro> como me conecto a un servidor en espaol
[07:22] <hosler> ok
[07:22] <absinthe_> hosler, or UT2k4 works great and it runs native in linu
[07:22] <hondje> no, it didn't change
[07:22] <hosler> haha ok
[07:22] <hondje> sure doesn't change means I
[07:22] <reka> noob-leech: join their IRC channel while you wait: irc://irc.chatjunkies.org/bmp
[07:23] <dabaR> ok, yes, I didnt expect it to, cause its independent of the shell, that is why I said that, cause you said you were gonna find out in a bash book.
[07:23] <noob-leech> Thanks, reka.
[07:24] <hondje> dabaR: how do you redirect w/ csh?
[07:24] <hosler> Whats the difference between cedega and winex3?
[07:24] <dabaR> redirect? like > ?
[07:24] <hondje> yeah
[07:25] <hondje> bash isn't letting me redirect the output from strace
[07:25] <gold> does anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf doesnt save when i reboot?
[07:26] <dabaR> same, hondje.
[07:26] <dabaR> there is standard error, that is why it is not redirecting, I think,.
[07:26] <dabaR> there are tricks for it, like &3 or something, I cant rememner any moer
[07:26] <Flav> hondje: where do you want to redirect the output to?
[07:27] <hondje> Flav: a file
[07:27] <sinferno> is there a way to get tome to play avi and mpg?
[07:27] <Go_pLastic> anyone know who to get .avi and .mpg files working?
[07:27] <sinferno> lol
[07:27] <Flav> hondje:        -o filename Write  the  trace output to the file filename rather than to stderr.
[07:27] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <bob2> hondje: I hope you have backups
[07:27] <hondje> Flav: oh, awesome, thanks
[07:27] <jasoncohen> if any users asks about multimedia apps they should use or about info on the apps, i have written up a wiki page with descriptions and screenshots of several audio & video apps as well as info on divx/xvid/quicktime/windows media/realplayer support & playing embedded movies in firefox + DVDs. the link is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show
[07:27] <bob2> Go_pLastic: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:27] <hondje> bob2: so it is as screwed as I thought?
[07:28] <Flav> hondje: redirecting stderr would be foo 2> file   in bash, might be the same in csh too, i'm not sure
[07:28] <bob2> hondje: I'd assume the disk is physically failing
[07:28] <dabaR> why new user, in all those names?
[07:28] <hondje> bob2: Why would you assume that?
[07:28] <bob2> hondje: but it could be a kernel problem (highly unlikely)
[07:28] <hondje> smartctl doesn't think so
[07:28] <jasoncohen> so far i have included beep-media-player, amarok, rhythmbox, xine-ui, totem and i'm planning to add vlc and more info on mplayer
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: i/o error = hardware puked when the kernel tried to read from it
[07:29] <againstme> if i need to download a program, do i just pick the program that is made for debian to be able to run it on ubuntu
[07:29] <hondje> bob2: that's why I'm stracing and the like...it only does that on the usb modules
[07:29] <hosler> againstme: anything with .deb at the end.
[07:29] <againstme> ok thanks
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: i've only seen that error in two cases: failing disk, or a messed up filesystem module I wrote
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: look in the output of 'dmesg'
[07:30] <hondje> attempt to access beyond end of device
[07:30] <hondje> hda1: rw=0, want=1076716952, limit=48821472
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: strace won't be useful, it'll just show the stat() or read() calls getting an error code
[07:30] <dabaR> hosler: >:(
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: that's Bad
[07:30] <bestari10> terengganu
[07:30] <hosler> dabaR: what?
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: tho I guess it could just mean the partition table is screwed up
[07:30] <dabaR> why did you answer that, it is not really tru...
[07:30] <bestari10> amy
[07:31] <hosler> dabaR: works for me.
[07:31] <dabaR> ok, then.
[07:32] <hondje> EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
[07:32] <hondje> init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (72127)
[07:32] <hondje> then 30 or 40 of those
[07:32] <dabaR> you go insatll .debs to your system...
[07:33] <D3v> Hey All! I just installed kubuntu! but i have no internet. i need help on configuring it because i really don't know what im doing! can anyone help me please?
[07:33] <dabaR> what kind of internet do you have?
[07:33] <D3v> Cable
[07:33] <dabaR> ok, do you connect with ethernet or USB?
[07:33] <D3v> ethernet
[07:33] <dabaR> good, so, why is it not working? do you use a router?
[07:33] <bob2> hondje: warranty time, methinks
[07:34] <bob2> hondje: or maybe disable dma and reboot
[07:34] <D3v> yes im using a linseys router but ports have been foward a;ready
[07:34] <hondje> bob2: okay, I'll give those a shot after smartctl finishes the long test
[07:34] <Speedy2> D3v: Can you ping the router
[07:34] <Speedy2> ?
[07:35] <dabaR> not cause of that, I ask for some other reason.
[07:35] <bestari10> haii
[07:35] <bob2> it's odd that smart doesn't see a probem
[07:35] <dabaR> do you have ubuntu booted now?
[07:35] <dabaR> do you ahve it in front of you?
[07:35] <bob2> D3v: port forwarding has nothing to do with your machine being able to access the internet, btw
[07:35] <D3v> yes Dabar i do
[07:35] <dabaR> ok, go System>Admin>Networking.
[07:35] <D3v> bob2 ok =(
[07:36] <dabaR> Tell me what do you see there.
[07:36] <dabaR> if there is a eth0.
[07:36] <IceDC571> hmm... im thinking of switching to debian
[07:36] <spanglesontoast> finally got iPodder working
[07:36] <dabaR> I mean, whether.
[07:36] <dabaR> IceDC571: good call:)
[07:36] <dabaR> I did too recently...I still use Ubuntu more.
[07:36] <spanglesontoast> http://ipodder.sourceforge.net/support/viewtopic.php?t=160 that helps
[07:37] <dabaR> spanglesontoast: good for you.
[07:37] <dabaR> brb
[07:37] <IceDC571> debian's repositories are really up to date
[07:37] <eliUbuntu> jasoncohen: thanks for the multimedia link. very good source
[07:37] <D3v> dabaR theres no admin under System ?
[07:37] <jasoncohen> eliUbuntu, np- if you want me to add anything to ask
[07:38] <jasoncohen> eliUbuntu, we still have to add vlc
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> what is vlc?
[07:38] <jasoncohen> !vlc
[07:38] <ubotu> methinks vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> thanks
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> !vlc
[07:38] <D3v> VLC  is great
[07:38] <dabaR> D3v: hwo about Administration?
[07:38] <jasoncohen> unfortunately the screenshot for totem didn't work- it just shows a blue screen
[07:38] <jasoncohen> but the xine one came out very nicely
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget vlc
[07:39] <ubotu> i forgot vlc, tiglionabbit
[07:39] <D3v> dabaR: no admin , administration at all
[07:39] <dabaR> hah, stupid me, kubuntu you said:)
[07:40] <dabaR> ok, well, do this, /join #flood as your message.
[07:40] <dabaR> hurry hurry
[07:40] <dabaR> :)
[07:41] <hondje> long smartctl test passed
[07:41] <hondje> :-/
[07:41] <spanglesontoast> why is xmms-mp3 not in the repos?
[07:42] <phzi> hey everyone
[07:42] <phzi> I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package
[07:43] <delltony> anyone here have any experience getting mplayer to compile with libmp3lame support?
[07:43] <phzi> now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:43] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:44] <spanglesontoast> grrr
[07:44] <spanglesontoast> wheres mp3?
[07:44] <phzi> anyone ever hear of anything like that?
[07:45] <FlannelKing> spanglesontoast, what about xmms-mad?
[07:46] <x55> i've got a very important question
[07:46] <x55> where did linux get the penguin?  hehehe
[07:46] <spanglesontoast> why has it changed to mad rather than mp3?
[07:46] <x55> when i think of an OS, i must say, flightless birds do not immediately come to mind
[07:47] <nickrud> spanglesontoast it's a developer thing, don't ask, I say
[07:47] <x55> hehehe
[07:47] <spanglesontoast> ok xmms still crashes odd
[07:47] <Aerebus> anyone know if there is a "sudo empty trash" command? lol
[07:47] <paul_> esound?
[07:48] <phzi> Aerebus: sudo rm -fr $HOME/.Trash/
[07:48] <spanglesontoast> yea esound works fine oss and alsa don't work
[07:48] <spanglesontoast> odd
[07:48] <phzi> will forcefully empty the gnome trash
[07:48] <nickrud> spanglesontoast no, that is exactly correct
[07:48] <paul_> ya odd that xmms isnt included in the first place
[07:49] <Aerebus> lol ty phzi
[07:49] <phzi> no worries
[07:49] <nickrud> spanglesontoast there are sound cards that can do hardware mixing, and those that don't
[07:49] <adwait> hey again ppl'
[07:49] <znh> hmm.. anyone noticed that you can't change the background in XFCE4 ?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> x55, tux (which is his name) is what linus picked (hesaid he was rather fond of the penguin) : http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/
[07:49] <nickrud> if you have one that does, you're set, otherwise use esound until breezy (we all hope)
[07:49] <phzi>  I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:49] <x55> tux!
[07:49] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:49] <phzi> anyone aware of this issue?
[07:49] <x55> thank you
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> it's worked before thou
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone, i've got a big problem, my sisters computer won't even boot, it freezes when starting GDM
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> oh
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> I got ya
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> is that because of gnome making sounds?
[07:50] <GigaClon> anyone know a good linux games downloading site?
[07:50] <znh> Garathor: yes
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> i don't know what to tell you guys besides that right before graveman froze and it was rebooted and then the next time it was started it wouldn't start gdm
[07:50] <adwait> thechitowncubs: graphic card divers ok?
[07:50] <adwait> *drivers
[07:50] <paul_> ati x300 gpu drivers? where would those be anyone
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> yep
[07:51] <adwait> thechitowncubs: does it show like vertical greenish lines on the screen?
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> it freezes but it shows the active/busy mouse cursor
[07:51] <znh> GigaClon: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> no
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> i can't even do: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <phzi> paul_: ati.com
[07:51] <phzi> they have linux drivers
[07:51] <paul_> duh , lol
[07:51] <nickrud> spanglesontoast I've probaly bitten off more than I can chew at the the moment, but:
[07:51] <nickrud> alsa is the kernel sound system.
[07:51] <znh> I need some seriouse help.. I can't change this poop color to any other color (XFCE4) I could before!
[07:51] <spanglesontoast> !info esound
[07:51] <ubotu> esound: (Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[07:51] <phzi> paul_: download the ati linux .run file, chmod +x it, and then ./launch it
[07:52] <phzi> it'll run thru the setup process
[07:52] <adwait> thechitowncubs: umm.......maybe u could try going into non X mode from grub and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[07:52] <nickrud> if you have a card that does 'multi-open' or hardware mixing, set all sound outputs to alsa
[07:52] <adwait> *xorg
[07:52] <nickrud> otherwise, try to get them to use esound, or esd
[07:52] <phzi> I had a lot of problems with sound in ubuntu
[07:53] <kestas> how do I direct error on the console to a file?
[07:53] <phzi> but I worked out a proccess that fixes it
[07:53] <kestas> you know like 2>&1, but 2>&errorfile or something
[07:53] <nickrud> And, if it's something that cannot use esound, then search for dmix on alsa-project.org
[07:54] <phzi> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[07:54] <phzi> (if you sound card is already detected)
[07:54] <phzi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=sounds+audigy
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> adwait, oh recovery mode
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> that sounds like a good idea
[07:54] <phzi> (if your sound card isn't detected properly)
[07:55] <phzi> anyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?
[07:55] <nickrud> or, for your particular sound card ;P
[07:55] <spanglesontoast> hmmm windows is for games in my own idea etc
[07:56] <adwait> thechitowncubs: yeah......or just select the normal option u use to boot linux and edit with command by pressing 'e' and then add  '1' at the end and continue booting
[07:56] <spanglesontoast> cedega sucks for us ati peeps
[07:56] <phzi> anyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?
[07:56] <bob2> lots of people are
[07:56] <phzi> well, I am wondering if someone who is actually around is
[07:56] <bob2> if you have a question about it, best to just ask
[07:56] <phzi> because I'm having issues
[07:56] <spanglesontoast> how good is cedega on nvidia?
[07:56] <phzi> I have twice
[07:57] <phzi> I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:57] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:57] <phzi> anyone seen something like that?
[07:57] <spanglesontoast> and if someone has cedega and nivida could they take a screeny?
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> sounds good thanks for the tips
[07:57] <adwait> thechitowncubs: np
[07:57] <paul_> ok how would i install a rpm using alien?
[07:57] <bob2> phzi: try asking on the user list
[07:57] <bob2> paul_: what rpm?
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?
[07:57] <adwait> paul_: sudo alien <whtever>
[07:58] <paul_> ati gpu driver
[07:58] <phzi> ya, that's the next step, thanks bob2
[07:58] <adwait> paul_: then dpkg -i <createddebfile>
[07:58] <Gobfrey> I'm having problems stalling hugin, can anyone give me a little help?
[07:58] <bob2> phzi: if you get no love there, I think filing a bug would be appropriate
[07:58] <jtgameover> anyone know what's the equivalent of .xinitrc for gdm in ubuntu? .xsession doesn't seem to be the answer
[07:58] <bob2> paul_: the ati drivers in ubuntu don't work?
[07:58] <phzi> good plan, thanks for responding bob2
[07:58] <paul_> dpkg -i (then the file name)?
[07:58] <paul_> im running a x300
[07:59] <phzi> paul_: there is an automated install
[07:59] <phzi> on ati.com
[07:59] <adwait> paul_:  yes.......alien will create a deb file, and then u use tht filename
[07:59] <paul_> hmm all i get is the code
[07:59] <phzi> do this:
[07:59] <paul_> for the installer download
[07:59] <phzi> save it somewhere on your computer
[07:59] <adwait> paul_: with alien?
[07:59] <phzi> open a terminal (root)
[07:59] <paul_> no the installer
[07:59] <phzi> save the installer
[07:59] <jtgameover> if i wanted some programs to run on login, what file would i edit?
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?
[08:00] <phzi> and do: chmod +x <ati_installer>
[08:00] <phzi> then ./<ati_installer>
[08:00] <adwait> jtgameover: system>preferences>sessions
[08:00] <jtgameover> adwait, do you know what file that edits?
[08:00] <phzi> make sense paul_?
[08:00] <adwait> jtgameover: .xsessions
[08:00] <paul_> the installer just opens a window with the code, no option to download
[08:01] <jtgameover> really? you sure about that?
[08:01] <phzi> what browser are you using? firefox?
[08:01] <bob2> paul_: why don't you just install the drivers that come with ubuntu?
[08:01] <phzi> right click, save as
[08:01] <adwait> jtgameover: no......i just tried and it gave me a new file...but it was something sim ilear
[08:01] <jtgameover> adwait, would the same thing work if i used openbox or another wm
[08:01] <phzi> bob2: they are slightly older, and I don't believe support his chipset
[08:01] <nickrud> thechitowncubs I'm almost afraid to skim the gnome lists, to find that it will not be in 2.12
[08:01] <signbarn> How do i make it so apt-get doesn't ask for my 5.04 install disk?
[08:01] <jtgameover> adwait what's the new file?
[08:01] <paul_> actually, im doing this as a experiment to install in a pure debian install
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> signbarn: comment out that repository
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[08:01] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <adwait> jtgameover: no idea buddy.........never used anything but gnome :)
[08:01] <TR0N> does anyone know a reason why ubuntu could crash with a kernel panic during installation?
[08:02] <Gobfrey> hugin complains that it can't find a library, but the library is there.  I think maybe my library path is screwed up.  I don't really know, I'm new to this.  I pasted some information to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:02] <signbarn> !repositories
[08:02] <jtgameover> does anyone here use openbox?
[08:02] <paul_> as i can never seem to get a gui to work in pure debian
[08:02] <phzi> paul_, you can PM me if you think I might be of help
[08:02] <phzi> kinda useless to chat in the channel
[08:02] <bob2> Gobfrey: there doesn't seem to be anything called "hugin" in ubuntu...maybe you could tell us what it is, where it's from, and givee us the past url?
[08:02] <Razor-X> jtgameover: Fluxbox is much more popular
[08:02] <phzi> I just did the ATI install yesterday
[08:03] <phzi> from the .run file
[08:03] <paul_> well its a sleepless night, and im not making much sense
[08:03] <jtgameover> Razor-X, i am switching from fluxbox to openbox
[08:03] <phzi> or that :P
[08:03] <jtgameover> trust me, i've had my fun with fluxbox
[08:03] <bob2> thechitowncubs: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2005-June/msg00016.html
[08:03] <Razor-X> jtgameover: I don't like Fluxbox too much, but it seemed easy to configure
[08:03] <TR0N> hm sorry actually it happened after installation when starting the system first.
[08:03] <paul_> phizi im saving the installer , now thanks
[08:03] <jtgameover> Razor-X, defiitely
[08:04] <jtgameover> Razor-X, i am trying to get somee programs to run when i log in to openbox though
[08:04] <phzi> alright paul_, well let me know how it works out
[08:04] <paul_> k
[08:04] <Gobfrey> bob2: hugin is a panorama stitching program.  I followed a tutorial on http://rbpark.ath.cx/articles/compile-hugin-ubuntu
[08:04] <jtgameover> Razor-X, if i edit my .xinitrc file and kill all gdm's running
[08:04] <jtgameover> and then do startx
[08:04] <jtgameover> it works
[08:04] <jtgameover> stuff runs when i log in
[08:04] <jtgameover> but when i edit my .xsession
[08:04] <Gobfrey> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/467
[08:04] <Razor-X> doesen't work?
[08:04] <jtgameover> yep
[08:04] <paul_> pain killers are kicking in, might have to go back to bed now lol
[08:05] <Razor-X> hmmmm....
[08:05] <Razor-X> try doing it through CRON
[08:05] <Razor-X> not many people use CRON anymore, but, that should be reliable
[08:05] <paul_> phizi gedit was not able to open error
[08:05] <phzi> what do you need gedit for?
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> okay that's really weard
[08:06] <egi> !info netcat
[08:06] <ubotu> netcat: (TCP/IP swiss army knife), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10-27 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[08:06] <phzi> paul_: can I PM you?
[08:06] <paul_> yeah
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> grr
[08:06] <Razor-X> netcat is uber ;)
[08:06] <Razor-X> almost as uber as emacs XD
[08:07] <D3v> =
[08:07] <D3v> =( i just installed kubuntu but i cant get the net working?
[08:07] <Razor-X> D3v: how so?
[08:08] <dabaR> cable, interfaces has a good entry.
[08:08] <dabaR> good night
[08:08] <Razor-X> anyone have experience using pork in emacs?
[08:08] <D3v> well i didnt install it kubuntu with the net and i guess it didnt auto config it, and i dont know what im doing so i cant
[08:09] <egi> !help
[08:09] <Arkainium> What are some disk intensive operations that I can perform to test the stability of my new drive.  I've been crashing lately and want to see if my hard drive is to blame here.
[08:09] <Razor-X> D3v: what kinda net connection do you have?
[08:09] <D3v> Razor-X Cable, useing ethernet
[08:09] <D3v> using^
[08:09] <Razor-X> Arkainium: you can try compiling something huge
[08:10] <Razor-X> D3v: any router?
[08:10] <D3v> yes
[08:10] <D3v> linseys
[08:10] <Razor-X> mention that ;)
[08:10] <Razor-X> lihseys?
[08:10] <Arkainium> Razor-X, I thought compilation was more of a processor thing.
[08:10] <Razor-X> is that some cheap linksys rip-off?
[08:10] <Razor-X> Arkainium: you want to test your HDD?
[08:11] <D3v> got it with vonage, for my cable internet
[08:11] <Arkainium> ya
[08:11] <D3v> so i can have a house phone too
[08:11] <Razor-X> Arkainium: cordon off some free space, fill it with crap files, and shred em
[08:11] <Razor-X> like shred em, writing them over many times
[08:11] <Razor-X> D3v: or you could use DSL for that ;) Linksys?
[08:11] <Arkainium> hmm.. maybe compression/decompression
[08:12] <hyphenated> Arkainium: how about updatedb
[08:12] <Razor-X> Arkainium: shredding writes and rewrites to files
[08:12] <Razor-X> erasing them completely
[08:12] <D3v> had dsl but they riped me off
[08:12] <Razor-X> put it on highest security, many files
[08:12] <Arkainium> thanks for the suggestion.  i'll give them a try
[08:12] <Razor-X> D3v: $19.99 is nice, anyways Linksys? need to be sure it's not some cheap rip
[08:12] <Razor-X> updatedb isn't that HDD intensive, for me at least
[08:13] <Razor-X> I could suggest nuking, but that's if you want to give up the HDD ;)
[08:13] <nickrud> so, Razor-X , you have good experiences with linksys ;)
[08:13] <Arkainium> and updatedb is smart.. it keeps a cache so you can't do it many times.  (i think)
[08:13] <hyphenated> the kernel keeps the cache
[08:13] <hyphenated> automagically
[08:13] <Razor-X> nickrud: I use a netgear meself ;)
[08:13] <Razor-X> although, I may just convert the 486 into a firewall
[08:13] <hyphenated> anyways, I'm off.
[08:13] <D3v> well even when i would try to hook it up directly from the cable box it still wouldnt let me on the net
[08:14] <Razor-X> if only the cable connection difference wasn't so huge
[08:14] <Razor-X> D3v: why?
[08:14] <Razor-X> shouldn't it work with DHCP?
[08:14] <nickrud> Razor-X I only mention it cuz I've only used linksys, and and can alwyays validation :)
[08:14] <Razor-X> Arkainium: isn't that the whole _point_ of updatedb? a cache? ;)
[08:14] <nickrud> huh, s/alwyays/allways use/
[08:14] <Razor-X> nickrud: Linksys makes rock-solid routers
[08:15] <D3v> you would think it would but it doesnt
[08:15] <Razor-X> D3v: what did you have to configure?
[08:16] <D3v> i didnt config anything. im a noob at linux, i dont know what im doing, im just trying to learn so i can get a way from wintendo
[08:16] <Arkainium> Razor-X, hmm.. shred doesn't work with journaled filesystems.
[08:16] <Razor-X> what did you configure in Windows?
[08:16] <Razor-X> Arkainium: there must be a shredder that does
[08:16] <Razor-X> mine does ;)
[08:16] <nickrud> D3v then, experiment away :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> although mine's included with KDE
[08:16] <Gobfrey> can no-one give me a little help?
[08:16] <Razor-X> nickrud: the problem is, he doesen't know _what_ needs configuring, if I knew this, it would be ease to fix the problem
[08:17] <ubuntu> hola
[08:17] <Gobfrey> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/467
[08:17] <D3v> Razor-X nothing i edit movies and make them, thats it
[08:17] <Arkainium> Razor-X, oh, I better search apt then
[08:17] <Razor-X> D3v: actual encoding/transcoding? or just making movies?
[08:17] <ubuntu> so how are alll of you tonite
[08:17] <Razor-X> ubuntu: judge for yourself ;)
[08:17] <aru> I'm sexy+
[08:18] <Razor-X> aru: ok then
[08:18] <aru> heh
[08:18] <vladuz976> hey when i install window managers with apt-get, do i still need to write a .desktop file or does it automatically put it in the gdm?
[08:18] <nickrud> Razor-X D3v I've been in the position of not being sure about what to configure so many times, I'm no longer afraid of experimentation
[08:18] <Razor-X> vladuz976: no harm in checking ;)
[08:18] <aru> someone asked, I had to reply
[08:18] <Razor-X> nickrud: neither am I
[08:18] <nickrud> lol
[08:18] <Razor-X> aru: I wonder how you are when you're not sexy ;)
[08:18] <aru> wouldn't know :)
[08:19] <D3v> encoding/transcoding. etc
[08:19] <Razor-X> I have 12677 lines of logs here
[08:19] <Razor-X> D3v: you ever used AVISynth?
[08:19] <Razor-X> and I have more questions for you ;)
[08:19] <vladuz976> Razor-X: where are they again? in /usr/share something?
[08:19] <aru> hey, all my stuff is working almost perfect
[08:19] <Razor-X> what codecs do you suggest for encoding a low-variety of colors, ok movement, with static subtitles?
[08:19] <sbatten2> I'm having a screen resolution problem
[08:20] <D3v> nickrud when i experiment i destroy everything
[08:20] <Razor-X> vladuz976: locate ;)
[08:20] <Razor-X> !resolution
[08:20] <sbatten2> I can only run it seems at 640x480
[08:20] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:20] <Razor-X> there you are
[08:20] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:20] <nickrud> D3w it's only software
[08:20] <delltony> where can i get the lame-dev files for ubuntu please?
[08:20] <D3v> AVISynth is good
[08:20] <Razor-X> D3v: I grew real guts formatting my old machine 5 times in a row
[08:20] <Razor-X> D3v: I swear by it
[08:20] <Razor-X> Linux _really_ needs an AVISynth port
[08:21] <D3v> yes it does
[08:21] <D3v> i used gentoo linux for a whole but it broke so then i couldnt reinstall it
[08:21] <delltony> D3v: just curious you know anything about making dvds to xvid?
[08:21] <D3v> while^
[08:22] <Razor-X> delltony: encoding skill requires much more than that, and if he knows AVISynth, i'm assuming yes ;)
[08:22] <delltony> thats why i asked
[08:22] <D3v> delltony lol yeah
[08:22] <delltony> cause i assumed the same
[08:22] <Razor-X> heh
[08:22] <D3v> xvid divx
[08:22] <D3v> shizix
[08:22] <Razor-X> the only non-fun part about encoding is the actual time it takes ;)
[08:22] <delltony> my question is this though how in the hell did you get libmp3 to compile into mplayer or how did you install transcode
[08:22] <nickrud> D3v gentoo is lfs redux (for old schoolers). Like I said, it's only software. Install, experiment, and get the sys you want
[08:23] <Razor-X> like when you set a 3 hour movie to reencode, that takes a while
[08:24] <sbatten2> ok, read through that link, but still some troubles
[08:24] <delltony> i can't get transcode to install on ubuntu for nothinig i have went thru the depends. and i can't seem to find lame-dev anywhere except rarewares.org
[08:24] <Madpilot> sbatten2: if you start Hoary with your screen turned off, it'll default to 640x480. it's a dumb bug, but there you go...
[08:24] <sbatten2> I know the problem is that I don't have hsync and vsync
[08:25] <D3v> delltony.. its complicated and annoying but this movie editor i know made this progam that does it for you so you dont have to match everything up manually
[08:25] <sbatten2> on the back of the monitor it says 50-60hz which I assume is vrefresh
[08:25] <Razor-X> delltony: i'm having the same problem
[08:25] <sbatten2> but I cannot find an hrefresh anywhere online
[08:25] <delltony> yeah i have been searching for days
[08:25] <Razor-X> i've been noticing the latest builds have been coming real real flaky
[08:26] <Razor-X> D3v: i'm surprised howlittle encoders know about their OSs, since encoding is the closest thing to programming, skill-set-wise
[08:26] <Razor-X> *how little
[08:29] <D3v> anywho
[08:29] <Razor-X> back
[08:29] <Razor-X> D3v: what did you have to do in Windows to get it to work?
[08:29] <Razor-X> (or mac, i'm assuming you came from Windows)
[08:29] <gotonpo> anyone know an easy way to convert .wmvs to .mpgs?
[08:30] <Mestapheles> hey guys, I just upgraded my warty on reiser to hoary.  Did warty use reiser3?  I assume hoary uses reiser4.
[08:31] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: I don't think it changes the FS type, I may be wrong
[08:31] <D3v> Razor-X get what to work>
[08:31] <Razor-X> how is Rieser?
[08:31] <Razor-X> D3v: the internet
[08:32] <D3v> didnt have to do anything.
[08:32] <Mestapheles> yeah, I see a message in mail that tels me that I mights have to manually convert from reiserfs3 to 4.  Presumably hoary uses reiser4.  The thing is I don't know if warty used 3.
[08:32] <D3v> im on windows now
[08:32] <Razor-X> D3v: you know the IP of the router?
[08:33] <nickrud> Mestapheles if you did a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, the underlying fs will not change.
[08:33] <Mestapheles> well it says if you use the wrong reiser utility you can hose your system
[08:33] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: you can check using any good partiton manager
[08:33] <Mestapheles> fdisk -l calls them all linux
[08:33] <paul_> how do i change my screen resolution when i only have one option 640X400?
[08:34] <paul_> 640x480
[08:34] <Razor-X> !resolution
[08:34] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:34] <Razor-X> there you go, paul_
[08:34] <paul_> there i go what
[08:35] <paul_> is that a command?
[08:35] <Razor-X> paul_: you saw the website?
[08:35] <gotonpo> i <3 ubuntu.
[08:36] <D3v> i dont no the IP
[08:36] <D3v> know^
[08:36] <Mestapheles> how to change fonts manually might more in order for me
[08:36] <Razor-X> D3v: try typing in "192.168.1.1" in a web browser
[08:37] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: in the GUI, or terminal?
[08:38] <Mestapheles> fdisk is console app
[08:38] <Razor-X> fdisk is nasty!
[08:38] <Razor-X> cfdisk
[08:38] <D3v> its http://192.168.15.1/ for are router but my brother through the paswrd on it and i dont know it,
[08:38] <nickrud> the best place to drop truetype fonts for a multiuser system is /usr/local/fonts; for a single user, ~/.fonts
[08:38] <absinthe_> anyone know any good SPC players for linux? Any Beep plugins?
[08:39] <Razor-X> D3v: headlock your brother and tell him to make you sysadmin ;)
[08:39] <nickrud> dhu
[08:39] <D3v> plus he uses linux so i know its not the router
[08:39] <D3v> lol
[08:39] <nickrud> /usr/local/share/fonts
[08:39] <Razor-X> ask him
[08:40] <D3v> i just installed kubuntu with no internet so it never auto configed it, thats my problem
[08:40] <D3v> i nedd help to config it
[08:40] <D3v> its not reading my nic or anything
[08:41] <Razor-X> D3v: you can reinstall, but I don't think that's the problem
[08:41] <D3v> probably not
[08:41] <Razor-X> or, maybe your brother did something to restrict the DHCP signal
[08:42] <renick> #ardour
[08:42] <D3v> then i wouldnt be on the computer im on now
[08:42] <Razor-X> D3v: he password protected it, or something
[08:42] <D3v> and if he did i'd go beat his little a@@
[08:42] <Razor-X> do it ;)
[08:42] <Razor-X> at least, get him to set it up, since he should know his own config
[08:43] <Razor-X> hondje: hey
[08:43] <hondje> Howdy
[08:43] <D3v> its tempting
[08:43] <ilan_> Hi, I have a question.
[08:44] <hondje> How's it going, Razor-X ?
[08:44] <Razor-X> hondje: good ;)
[08:44] <ilan_> how can I "Uninstall" a program that I compiled?
[08:44] <Razor-X> i've gone full into the Emacs Way (TM)
[08:44] <ilan_> obviously apt-get remove dosent work
[08:44] <Razor-X> ilan_: make clean
[08:45] <ilan_> ohh ok
[08:45] <ilan_> that sound logic.
[08:45] <nickrud> ilan_ if you're lucky, and have a competent author, make uninstall
[08:45] <ilan_> I'll try
[08:45] <madmavric> yikes i totally hosed ubuntu by installing ati drivers
[08:45] <D3v> it was emerge -C on gentoo un uninstall a compiled program but i dont know ubuntu yet =(
[08:45] <Razor-X> I totally ditched screen and BitchX and every other non-emacs thing I had ;)
[08:45] <hondje> Razor-X: good deal :)
[08:45] <hondje> just don't start sounding like ESR :)
[08:45] <Razor-X> D3v: apt-get remove
[08:45] <Panzerboy> lol
[08:46] <madmavric> i bet ive reinstalled ubuntu 10 times in the last three weeks
[08:46] <Razor-X> madmavric: ;)
[08:46] <Razor-X> hondje: heh
[08:46] <Razor-X> the only thing I don't like is emms
[08:46] <madmavric> ill never get to the point where i can install pure debian at this rate lol
[08:46] <Razor-X> it's too lacklustered, at the moment
[08:46] <nickrud> *vIRTYALLY iNTELLIGENT vICTORY ;0
[08:47] <Panzerboy> madmavric: but why did you install ubuntu so many times?
[08:47] <madmavric> cuz i keep fucking it up
[08:47] <madmavric> lol
[08:47] <Panzerboy> cool
[08:47] <Panzerboy> keep up the good work :P
[08:47] <D3v> man this really sucks
[08:47] <ilan_> Razor-X, what if I deleted the folder of the program? I need to compile it again and then "make clean" it?
[08:48] <Madpilot> what f'd up so badly that you had to re-install? Ubuntu/Linux seems to have fairly intelligent restore/repair functions...
[08:48] <D3v> no net =(
[08:48] <Na_Kun> HAL fails. I'm trying to install the drivers for my HP 2175, but it doesn't work as USB (third) which it's on (device manager).. or any really. Help please?
[08:48] <Razor-X> Madpilot: recompiling your kernel? ;)
[08:48] <nickrud> madmavric keep doing the install, you'll have the 'ha ha' moment
[08:49] <D3v> sit0 unknown hardware? whats that mean
[08:49] <D3v> not reading my nic?
[08:49] <ilan_> ohh, never mind, I just configured it again.
[08:50] <ilan_> by the way, does anyone knows a good program for ripping cd's?
[08:50] <Razor-X> be back in a while
[08:50] <nickrud> ilan_ dd /dev/cdrom <a.name.iso>
[08:50] <Na_Kun> Should I re-install? It worked great the first time, but I had to kill it then.
[08:50] <nickrud> hm, I'll have to rewrite that
[08:51] <Na_Kun> 5.04 really doesn't like my machine.
[08:51] <nickrud> ilan_ dd if=/dev/cdrom of-<a.name.iso>
[08:51] <ilan_> nickrud, I meant music cd to mp3
[08:52] <nickrud> ilan_ I use grip for that
[08:52] <ilan_> ok, I'll look for it, thanks.
[08:52] <D3v> gosh any body else wanna try and help me
[08:52] <Na_Kun> What, D3v?
[08:54] <ssgt2002> does anyone know the current iso md5sum for x86 install
[08:54] <Madpilot> Razor-X: yeah, there's that. you can't help some problems...
[08:55] <indigo_> i just installed the base system, rebooted, was watching everything else install, then fell asleep. I woke and i was at the gdm login screen. When was my root password set?
[08:56] <indigo_> actually....i don't really care when; i just want to know what it is.
[08:56] <HrdwrBoB> indigo_: it wasn't
[08:56] <Agrajag> it was not
[08:56] <Madpilot> ssgt2002: md5sum info should be w/ whichever mirror you got the iso from?
[08:56] <Razor-X> !sudo
[08:56] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:56] <Razor-X> there you are
[08:56] <Na_Kun> You can create a root user :/
[08:56] <hondje> Is there any mobo tests like there's memtest86 for ram, smartctl for hdds, etc?
[08:56] <nickrud> I do hate typos
[08:57] <Razor-X> hondje: I believe so, google should turn up what you're looking for ;)
[08:57] <indigo_> my, this reminds me of os x
[08:57] <nickrud> indigo_ you mean, pretty :)
[08:57] <indigo_> no...the sudo thing
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> how do I get quicktime
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> ?
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> or play quicktime files
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: I think w32codecs includes it
[08:58] <indigo_> you could have said "if you want root, first you have to start the netinfo manager..." and i would have believed you
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: try xine-ui
[08:58] <Mafi> is there any way to listen to aac files on beep media player or xmms?
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: I believe you need to install gstreamer0.8-faad
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-faad
[08:59] <nickrud> what is the new backports link again? I have the w32codecs from marillat (commented out currently, so no comments)
[08:59] <Razor-X> indigo_: shame on you, you fell asleep during the Ubutnu install?
[08:59] <Razor-X> I was petrified with excitement ;0
[08:59] <Razor-X> *;)
[08:59] <Mafi> tiglionabbit, but does that file gstreamer give support for xmms?
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: it's in hoary extras, on a backports mirror
[09:00] <Razor-X> (petrified yes, because if my dad caught me.......)
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: uh..  don't know for sure, but I think so
[09:00] <jtan325> who knows bash shell scripting a little bit?
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[09:00] <ubotu> [backports]  at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I do
[09:00] <Razor-X> jtan325: there are tons of good tutorials out there
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I bet Razor-X knows a ton though
[09:00] <Madpilot> Razor-X: you thought your dad wouldn't notce that Windows had vanished?
[09:00] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: ;)
[09:00] <Mafi> tiglionabbit, I think that the gstreamer add support for the music player in gnome
[09:00] <nickrud> Mafi xmms has it's own mp3 support
[09:00] <jtan325> Razor-X, tiglionabbit, i am googling but sometimes google gets confused
[09:01] <Razor-X> Madpilot: no, I thought he may notice it's Linux, and then cut my head off ;)
[09:01] <jtan325> i want to know what the different options to the if statement in bash shell scripts can mean
[09:01] <jtan325> -x and -r specifically
[09:01] <nickrud> tiglionabbit thanks
[09:01] <Mafi> nickrud, I have all my ipod collection in aac. i need to add aac support to beep media player or to xmms
[09:01] <jtan325> or if there is a reference card
[09:01] <Razor-X> !vlc
[09:01] <ubotu> Razor-X: Wish i knew
[09:01] <jtan325> that would be awesome
[09:01] <Razor-X> eh!!!
[09:01] <Razor-X> !info vlc
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: give it one
[09:02] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[09:02] <Razor-X> vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[09:02] <nickrud> Mafi off the cuff, I think gstreamer (used by rhythmbox) has faac support. I may be wrong, since I dont use an ipod.
[09:02] <davidandkaz> hi guys
[09:02] <Razor-X> ubotu vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formatsbb and excellent streaming support
[09:02] <ubotu> Razor-X: okay
[09:02] <davidandkaz> Any good software for linux?
[09:02] <Mafi> nickrud, thatks. you migth be rigth
[09:02] <jtan325> Razor-X, do you know what the different options to "if statements" in bash mean?
[09:02] <Razor-X> jtan325: embarrassingly, no
[09:03] <absinthe_> Any way to view a pie graph of hard drive space/free space ala windows?
[09:03] <Razor-X> I don't know Perl, Python, or BASH Scripting well enough to profess about them
[09:03] <Razor-X> and that's what I have left to learn for sysadminship
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> say, how do I fastforward in xine-ui?
[09:03] <llllllllllllllll> Dev<~~~~~~
[09:03] <llllllllllllllll> still need help
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> oh, up/down
[09:04] <Hikaru79> Does anyone here know what's up with the "Ubuntu Java Project," if those repos are supposed to still be up?
[09:04] <Razor-X> and some work with my emacs regular expressions
[09:04] <davidandkaz> Any good free web development software for linux?
[09:04] <Razor-X> Hikaru79: i've seen you before, Go person
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: you can get java using the method in my guide
[09:04] <ssgt2002> try nvu
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[09:04] <ubotu> well, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[09:04] <Razor-X> or... am I wrong?
[09:04] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:04] <jtan325> davidandkaz, check out nvu and bluefish
[09:04] <Hikaru79> =) Hey, Razor-X !
[09:04] <Hikaru79> Nope, I remember you.
[09:04] <Razor-X> heh, good
[09:04] <llllllllllllllll> still cant get my internet to work =(
[09:04] <Razor-X> I had to go, and missed your PM
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: you need to add the hoary-extras backports mirror
[09:04] <Razor-X> and yeah, months later, we meet again XD
[09:05] <Hikaru79> tiglionabbit, I know. The thing is, java project doesn't only have the j2se, it's got tons of neat java libraries, etc.
[09:05] <davidandkaz> ok, great
[09:05] <Razor-X> Hikaru79: I can google you up some confirmation of that
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: it mentions j2sdk1.5 too
[09:05] <ssgt2002> davidandkaz, try nvu it is a nice replacement for dreamweaever on linux
[09:05] <Hikaru79> tiglionabbit, I'm not just talking about the sdk though. The Java project has things like JDBC drivers, JBoss, etc. Java-related apps and third-party libraries, not just development kits.
[09:05] <khabal> anyone know how to make a keylogger?
[09:06] <ssgt2002> it is supported by linspire
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> oh
[09:06] <llllllllllllllll> Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux ...
[09:06] <Hikaru79> Which is why I think it's a neat idea, but on the front page the guy says server costs are on the rise and it was posted a month ago
[09:06] <davidandkaz> I love dreamweaver....sounds good
[09:07] <davidandkaz> Anyone know why linspire is charging money for thier OS?
[09:07] <ssgt2002> does not support frames though check website
[09:07] <Agrajag> because they can
[09:07] <Sn0wMan> 
[09:07] <redtech> !alternative
[09:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:07] <spanglesontoast> what's the best audio editing program apart from audacity?
[09:07] <ssgt2002> linspire is a nice os for people who just want linux to work
[09:08] <nickrud_> I do hate dialup
[09:08] <jtgameover> oh man i am awesome
[09:08] <jtgameover> tiglionabbit, remember that stuff i was trying to ask about xsession?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: yeah, what about it?
[09:08] <jtgameover> well i never figured that out, but i did come up with a workaround for openbox
[09:09] <jtgameover> modeled after fluxbox
[09:09] <davidandkaz> As far as free goes, is ubuntu the most advanced "free" linux?
[09:09] <jtgameover> basically i put a wrapper script, "startopenbox"
[09:09] <jtgameover> which looks for a user's openbox-startup file if it exists
[09:09] <ssgt2002> dont know have not installed yet
[09:09] <nickrud_> davidandkaz no, that would be debian
[09:09] <jtgameover> and executes that if so
[09:09] <ssgt2002> debian is great
[09:09] <ssgt2002> if you have time
[09:10] <jtgameover> and this startopenbox is what gets executed when i try to login with openbox
[09:10] <jtgameover> instead of just plain ol' openbox
[09:10] <jtgameover> so yeah
[09:10] <dev> i need help
[09:10] <davidandkaz> debian?
[09:10] <davidandkaz> The most advanced?
[09:10] <ssgt2002> yes try it youll like it
[09:11] <dev> debains alright
[09:11] <dev> it pissed me off tho
[09:11] <redtech> alternative to movie maker?
[09:11] <ssgt2002> dev what do need help with
[09:12] <dev> well i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet, i use cable and i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu machine
[09:14] <dev> the net never worked on my kubuntu machine I just got done installing it a couple of hours ago
[09:14] <ssgt2002> windows internet works though right
[09:15] <dev> yeah im on it right now
[09:15] <ssgt2002> dhcp or static ip
[09:15] <dev> i guess dhcp
[09:16] <Hikaru79> I'm getting mixed reports. Some people tell me to use the backports repository to get the Sun Java JDK, and others tell me the warty-backports repos are the devil and I should rather sacrifice my firstborn than add it to sources.list ... anyone here can throw an objective light on the issue?
[09:16] <hondje> Hikaru79: it won't kill you
[09:16] <Xodus> hi there can anyone help me install java... on my machine?
[09:17] <Xodus> jvm
[09:17] <Hikaru79> hondje, not me, but what about my ubuntu install? =/
[09:17] <hondje> Hikaru79: a lot of us split our time with debian and are obsessed with being super bug free...backports are MORE buggy, but they're not going to kill you
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> hmm - thats detailed in the wiki's i think or the docs at the ubuntu site.
[09:17] <Hikaru79> Hm, I see.
[09:18] <Hikaru79> So they don't cause any obvious break-age with the ubuntu repos?
[09:18] <Xodus> ahhh.. read thru that.... fallen dead lie.. i!! :D
[09:18] <hondje> I can't imagine the java package causing problems though
[09:18] <nickrud_>  Hikaru79 while inside the directory you downloaded the jdk to, sudo apt-get install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jdk<tab>, sudo then dpkg -i sun<tab>
[09:18] <IceDC571> cyphase: hi
[09:18] <dev> any of you guys came in no anything about configuring the net on kubuntu
[09:18] <Xodus> i tried sudo get jaca
[09:18] <Xodus> didnt work
[09:18] <Hikaru79> nickrud, I know, I've used Debian. I was hoping for a cleaner way though.
[09:18] <IceDC571> well there is #kubuntu
[09:18] <nickrud_> Hikaru79 there is no cleaner way :)
[09:19] <hondje> That's pretty much what they probably did to make the one you get from backports
[09:19] <hondje> :)
[09:19] <Xodus> but there can be a clearer way :D
[09:19] <Hikaru79> nickrud, well, there's Ubuntu backports, and there *would* have been the Ubuntu Java Project if it hadn't been over-trafficed
[09:19] <nickrud_> clearer, yes :)
[09:19] <hondje> overtrafficed?
[09:19] <Hikaru79> Yeah
[09:19] <hondje> Define, sir :)
[09:19] <Hikaru79> Apparently the guy's repository was transfering like 5GB a day
[09:19] <hondje> ah
[09:19] <nickrud_> I've been against backports for a while, but I've seen people I trust ok it, so now ...
[09:20] <IceDC571> how could you be against backports?
[09:20] <dev> darn it
[09:20] <dev> someone help me
[09:20] <hondje> because they (at least used to) ignore deps when building debs, among other things
[09:20] <nickrud_> IceDC571 because, I want a system that will dist-upgrade to breezy cleanly
[09:20] <Hikaru79> dev, what's wrong?
[09:20] <dev> before i nija kick my pc out the window
[09:21] <hondje> they were just using deb-src to build pkgs
[09:21] <IceDC571> well Breezy isnt clean in the first place
[09:21] <hondje> Might be different now, that particular guide isn't around anymore afaik
[09:21] <Mestapheles> hey all,
[09:21] <nickrud_> IceDC571 I'm talking about the October Breezy, not breezy today
[09:21] <dev> Hikaru79 i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet
[09:21] <Hikaru79> dev, router or no?
[09:22] <Xodus> dev: i tried that but ubuntu, brought me back to linux ;D
[09:22] <Xodus> so dont kick an ubuntu pc
[09:22] <Hikaru79> dev, do you have a router or not?
[09:22] <Mestapheles> does ubuntu support server upgrades?  I just upgraded from hoarty to hoary with a minimal install with X and I have a wack of deps being held back
[09:22] <Mestapheles> I've upgraded many times before on debian
[09:22] <dev> Hikaru79   i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu
[09:23] <IceDC571> get a switch instead of a hub... ouch
[09:23] <Hikaru79> In that case, dev, have you tried dhclient?
[09:23] <Hikaru79> Just type that in the command line: dhclient
[09:23] <dev> sorry SWITCH
[09:23] <dev> is not a hub
[09:23] <Hikaru79> The router's the important part, hubs don't do DHCP so it doesn't matter.
[09:24] <Hikaru79> If you have a router, there's a good chance you need to do dhclient
[09:24] <nickrud_> Mestapheles I've run nothing but debian unstalbe since May 19, 2001, until I switched to ubuntu. I have found that I do like stable systems.
[09:25] <Mestapheles> debian unstable is stsable according to distro's standards
[09:25] <nickrud_> keeping logs can be fun :)
[09:25] <dev> Hikaru79 yes does a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 but it doesnt get anything saysno working leases in prsistent database- sleeping at the end of that
[09:26] <Mestapheles> you got to figure that they keep things back because a certain platform may have some hickups, not because the software necessarily is broken
[09:26] <Hikaru79> Hmm
[09:26] <Hikaru79> Do "ifconfig eth0"
[09:26] <Hikaru79> And paste output
[09:26] <Hikaru79> In #flood if its too long
[09:26] <dev> ok
[09:26] <Mestapheles> The only issue I had with debian is sane only worked for me as root
[09:27] <Mestapheles> and a accel freeze problem, but ubuntu had it too, and I gather reporting it did something to get it fixed
[09:27] <Hikaru79> Is the multiverse repository still deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse or is there a "hoary multiverse" ?
[09:28] <jasoncohen> Hikaru79, huh? hoary has a main restricted multiverse and universe just as warty does
[09:28] <nickrud_> I've always had one issue or another, but, usually it was my problem.
[09:29] <Hikaru79> So "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse" exists?
[09:29] <TR0N> i have problems getting ubuntu running. can someone help me in query?
[09:30] <Mestapheles> right now with hoary, I've had several problems.  Periodic and momentary freezes on my ppc box (x86 is fine), and a multiseat install problem on one of them.
[09:30] <Razor-X> hmmm...
[09:30] <Mestapheles> do tell, and someone might pitch in
[09:30] <Razor-X> nevermind
[09:30] <Mestapheles> tron
[09:31] <jasoncohen> TR0N, ask here
[09:31] <nickrud_> Hikaru79, the 'beter orgainzed' vrsion of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles is usefull
[09:31] <TR0N> first of all during setting up sth with xorg the installation process got stuck (computer didn't react to any input
[09:32] <TR0N> i freshly installed the os - so i barely had the chance to do smth wrong on my own...
[09:32] <ssgt2002> how long is install supposed to take
[09:34] <nickrud_> ssgt2002 less than an hour, for sure
[09:34] <TR0N> i don't know how long it's supposed to be installing... but the website said smth like 20 minutes for a usual system?
[09:34] <jasoncohen> TR0N, setting up SSH with xorg? you mean after the install was finished
[09:34] <jasoncohen> ubuntu only installs openssh-client by default
[09:34] <nickrud_> I can imagine a very slow machine
[09:35] <jcoxon> morning all
[09:35] <TR0N> i burned the install cd and tried to install ubuntu. i only answered all the usual configuration dialogs about keyboard, langauage, network and so on...
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> I need some help, how do i coonfigure my dial up connection with ubuntu?
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> I have a netscape accout?
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> do i need to switch ISPS?
[09:36] <TR0N> the system booted but on the first start it unpacks several programs.
[09:36] <IceDC571> um... someone shoot me, i might switch to fedora
[09:36] <nickrud_> IceDC571 use pppconfig, and use your usual phone number, username, and password. It should work.
[09:36] <TR0N> so there it crashed.
[09:36] <ilan_> Which run level I need to switch to, for installing nvidia drivers?
[09:36] <IceDC571> nickrud_: wrong person, eh?
[09:36] <IceGuest_5_> but it wont even detect my modem!..
[09:37] <nickrud_> IceDC571 heh, that was for IceGuest_5_
[09:37] <IceDC571> hey we have two Ice's in here! :)
[09:37] <IceGuest_5_> lol
[09:37] <ilan_> again, how to exit X Windows, for being able to install nvidia drivers?
[09:37] <MForster> join #ubuntu
[09:37] <TR0N> the only thing that works properly is the rescue-kernel
[09:38] <IceDC571> MForster: we are in #ubuntu..
[09:38] <IceDC571> lol
[09:38] <Tsukasa199> ilan_, how about killall gdm?
[09:38] <dev> welp i dont know why i can't get internet on kubuntu
[09:38] <IceGuest_5_> It wont even detect my modem..
[09:38] <dev> must been a retarted install or something
[09:38] <Madpilot> does anyone know if Nautilus will get better in breezy? Right now the file move system is worse than Win98, which ought to embarass some ppl...
[09:38] <IceGuest_5_> will i need to get a new modem?
[09:38] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, probably not, just some instructions :)
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  worse in what way? this is the first id ever heard of any problems with it
[09:39] <IceGuest_5_> instructions?
[09:39] <ssgt2002> what is ubuntu based on
[09:39] <nickrud_> IceGuest_5_ if you have a winmodem, some instructions :)
[09:39] <IceDC571> ssgt2002: Debian
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> MForster: what do you mean, like how you can't use root with it?
[09:39] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, what kind of modem do you use?
[09:39] <ssgt2002> yeah i like it already
[09:39] <MForster> Did i say anything?
[09:39] <IceDC571> MForster: you said join #ubuntu
[09:40] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: overwriting existing files. Win98 will give file size, date, etc for both, plus overwrite/skip options. Naut just asks if you want to overwrite or skip
[09:40] <MForster> sorry. tpy
[09:40] <IceDC571> and i said i like ice cream
[09:40] <MForster> didn't want to :)
[09:40] <IceGuest_5_> Im not for sure, but i can see it in the device manager thing but it wont auto detect.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  windows also likes to ask other lame things then rants :P use mc for a file manager! like real men.
[09:40] <Krypt|c> Anyone had issues where the default gateway keeps defaulting to ath0 from eth0?  Rather annoying :)
[09:40] <ssgt2002> dr_willis graphical is better
[09:40] <IceDC571> dont use a file manager, use the terminal
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> ssgt2002,  Blasphmy!
[09:41] <nickrud_> IceGuest_5_ I can't really help with modern modems, I use an old serial type
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:41] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: I avoid CLI when possible...
[09:41] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: you mean in network-admin?  Yeah, that program sucks.  I don't touch it anymore
[09:41] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : that's about the only place I seem to be able to fix it.
[09:41] <TR0N> after rebooting i got a Segmentation fault error in grep --quiet on-line "${FN}/state"
[09:41] <nickrud_> Madpilot a man after my own heart ;)
[09:41] <Madpilot> ... and this is one (small) area where Win really does do it better. Even back w/ Win98..
[09:41] <tiglionabbit> I hear in breezy they're going to make a much better network manager
[09:41] <Tsukasa199> Madpilot, why do you avoid it?
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit: ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 does nothin
[09:42] <TR0N> and the last line i got was <7>eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: really?  they work for me
[09:42] <Madpilot> Tsukasa199: because it's easier to see where I can screw up w/ GUI... :)
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : heck, I even keep disabling ath0 in network-admin with no love.  It re-activates for some reason
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: gotta use sudo, and have the package installed
[09:42] <Tsukasa199> hehe
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : heh, yeah.  I do it as root.
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: remove all the lines that have the word "auto" in them, or comment them out.  Then it wont do things automatically anymore
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: except auto lo, leave that one
[09:43] <IceGuest_5_> i use a ESS E556t-PI Date Fax Modem
[09:43] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : the only auto in there is for eth0
[09:43] <IceGuest_5_> well thats what it says in device manager
[09:44] <IceDC571> you know how sudo can be bad?
[09:44] <IceDC571> say my friend uses a command with sudo
[09:44] <TR0N> well... i'll try to ask again later...
[09:44] <IceDC571> i go on his computer and type in sudo rm -rf /*
[09:44] <jcoxon> IceDC571, google it with the word linux
[09:44] <nickrud_> IceDC571 and, do you know his password?
[09:45] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, does the modem get listed under System -> System administration -> network?
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> sudo stays active for 15 minutes
[09:45] <IceDC571> nah, he already used sudo 10 minutes before i got to the computer
[09:45] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, as "Modem Connection"
[09:45] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit :)
[09:45] <Madpilot> is "sudo rm -rf /*" the equivilent of "format C:/*.*" in DOS? :)
[09:46] <ssgt2002> haha
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: it's the equivalent of "DELETE EVERYTHING"
[09:46] <nickrud_> */tilt*?
[09:46] <IceDC571> more like format C:\*.* /q /y
[09:46] <IceGuest_5_> one second i have to run up and down the stairs lol
[09:46] <Krypt|c> or deltree :)
[09:46] <IceDC571> isnt deltree for DOS only?
[09:46] <Tsukasa199> nope
[09:47] <Madpilot> OK, thought so... one to avoid, then. Or sic on the irritating... :)
[09:47] <nickrud_> I'm sure someone wrote a linux equiv sometime
[09:47] <Krypt|c> bbiab
[09:48] <nickrud_> just never give rm  the -f option, it'll save you a few times
[09:48] <IceDC571> i always use the force option :)
[09:48] <IceDC571> i dont know why
[09:48] <nickrud_> me too, it's reflex
[09:48] <nickrud_> do as I say, not as I do :)
[09:49] <Madpilot> -f = force = just do it, don't ask if I'm really sure? ;)
[09:49] <nickrud_> yup
[09:49] <IceDC571> omg
[09:49] <IceDC571> ask if you're sure, thats a windows thing
[09:49] <IceDC571> linux just asks yes or no
[09:49] <nickrud_> rm -i
[09:50] <nickrud_> something I've never used
[09:50] <IceDC571> what's i?
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> interactive
[09:50] <nickrud_> interactive
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> "Are you sure you want to delete"
[09:50] <phanter> hello, how can i change the application that is opening a file when double clicking a file (in gnome)
[09:51] <IceDC571> have you noticed everyone does tar ____ in a different combination?
[09:51] <IceDC571> i always use tar xvzf
[09:51] <TokenBad> is there a way to take and get a idea of how much space on a drive a set dir on that drive is taking up?
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> actually, it says "rm: remove this type of file `thefilename'?
[09:51] <Tsukasa199> phanter, right click on file -> properties -> open with
[09:51] <nickrud_> phanter right click the file, go to properties, then open with
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: yes, tar xvjf, for bzip and bzip2
[09:52] <phanter> Tsukasa199, yes, but I want to change the default application
[09:52] <IceDC571> hah.. i type xjvf
[09:52] <ssgt2002> love this ubuntu installer very nice
[09:52] <Tsukasa199> phanter, that should be possible that way
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> Tsukasa199: yes, du -s
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> er, du -sh .
[09:52] <nickrud_> phanter that's how you determine the default app
[09:53] <IceDC571> i just noticed this command
[09:53] <IceDC571> sensible-browser
[09:53] <qt2> okay...
[09:53] <IceDC571> its neat, who else has noticed it?
[09:53] <nickrud_> IceDC571 a lovely one, isn't it
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> du = disk usage, -s for summary (rather than telling you all the dirs inside it), -h for human readable (reports in megabytes and gigabytes instead of single bytes)
[09:53] <qt2> so setting up an icecast server seems really complicated :P
[09:53] <IceDC571> yeah
[09:53] <dev> hmm 4am eating doritos being angery at kubuntu
[09:53] <IceDC571> icecast servers are always complicated
[09:54] <nickrud_> swap out any browser, one command
[09:54] <dev> this isnt a good life =(
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> sensible-browser launches konqueror for me.  What's sensible about that?
[09:54] <IceDC571> dev: well, i dont know.. if so many people werent using dialup we wouldnt have so many problems
[09:54] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: lol why do you have konqueror installed?
[09:55] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit sudo update-alternatives --config sensible-browser, I think
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: because I have kubuntu-desktop installed
[09:55] <Madpilot> sensible-browser here launches FF. more FF propaganda... :)
[09:55] <phanter> i did open with and choose an other application, but after that, when double clicking on the file, it opened in an other program again (not in the one I want/selected)
[09:55] <dev> IceDC571 i use cable and still cant get the net on kubuntu
[09:55] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit s/sensible-browser/x-www-browser/
[09:55] <dev> i gotta slug it out with windows
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: "no alternatives for sensible-browser.
[09:55] <IceDC571> dev: have you tried getting on the net with gnome?
[09:56] <dev> i hate gnome
[09:56] <IceDC571> sensible launched epiphany for me back when i had it, now it launches firefox
[09:56] <IceDC571> i love it
[09:56] <Tsukasa> gnome is awesome
[09:56] <IceDC571> dev: then why dont you go to #kubuntu?
[09:56] <dev> i am
[09:56] <dev> i cant get the net on that fucker
[09:56] <qt2> IceDC571, icecast was easy to set up in windows...
[09:57] <IceDC571> qt2: welcome to the real world :)
[09:57] <Tsukasa> i bet it's not that hard on linux too ;)
[10:00] <phanter> the problem is that  I do not want to use openoffice to open html documents, but an other program. Whatever I try OOo stays the default app
[10:00] <Tsukasa> IceDC571, don't dare to do so!
[10:00] <IceDC571> lol i love spying on other distro chats
[10:00] <cyphase> :)
[10:01] <IceDC571> they need help, i help them.. and i say, by the way.. i'm not using fedora
[10:01] <nickrud_> phanter right click an html file, go to properties (at the bottome), and select open with (make sure the dot is on the prefferd app)
[10:01] <IceDC571> cyphase: where were you?
[10:02] <nickrud_> why don't I have spell check in xchat :)
[10:02] <Belutz> IceDC571: the different between ubuntu and kubuntu is only gnome and kde ?
[10:02] <IceDC571> Belutz: exactly
[10:02] <Krypt|c> Heh.
[10:02] <Belutz> IceDC571: which one do you prefer?
[10:03] <IceDC571> Belutz: gnome
[10:03] <Belutz> IceDC571: the reason?
[10:03] <Krypt|c> Gnome is pretty good, although there are some kick butt kde apps as well.
[10:03] <Krypt|c> I used to be a windowmaker monkey when I was using debian
[10:04] <Krypt|c> I'm not terribly loyal to any desktop manager... as long as it works, I can install any needed apps
[10:04] <Belutz> Krypt|c: ic...
[10:04] <IceDC571> well.. even though gnome doesnt have all the apps, right now everything works perfectly, it recognizes all my hardware.. while kde may need a lot of configuring and caused a lot of problems for me
[10:04] <IceDC571> but kde is good
[10:04] <IceDC571> it depends on you
[10:05] <Krypt|c> ie, there's no reason why you couldn't install a KDE application and continue to use GNOME, or vice versa
[10:05] <cyphase> IceDC571, was that you sending me messages earlier?
[10:05] <nickrud_> For example, k3b
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> wasn't xfce released better this time?
[10:05] <IceDC571> cyphase: um i think so
[10:05] <cyphase> lol
[10:05] <spanglesontoast> on debian
[10:05] <cyphase> no, i mean a while ago
[10:05] <IceDC571> spanglesontoast: im using xfce right now actually and im loving it
[10:06] <cyphase> i was taking a nap, so i didn't see it
[10:06] <Krypt|c> Now if only they'd release the updated version of Nicotine...
[10:06] <cyphase> :)
[10:06] <IceDC571> cyphase: yeah
[10:06] <Krypt|c> That'd make me happy.
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> Nicotine is old?
[10:06] <Krypt|c> The current version is broken to windows soulseek client
[10:06] <Krypt|c> or rather, the current version in Ubuntu
[10:06] <jcoxon> fluxbox/pogo combo is the best desktop manager :P
[10:06] <IceDC571> we need more girls in here!
[10:06] <IceDC571> jcoxon: pogo?
[10:06] <nickrud_> pogo, I've not heard of that
[10:06] <nailer> pogo?
[10:06] <Belutz> IceDC571, Krypt|c: i don't know there is a kubuntu until recently... i just try the ubuntu live cd yesterday, and it detects all my laptop hadrdware, i wonder if kubuntu could do the same
[10:07] <jcoxon> one sec i'll find a screenshot
[10:07] <spanglesontoast> !info pogo
[10:07] <Krypt|c> it's currently using 1.0.8rc1, and the current release is 1.0.8
[10:07] <spanglesontoast> !pogo
[10:07] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I don't know
[10:07] <IceDC571> lol.. well there you go
[10:07] <spanglesontoast> pongo?
[10:07] <ubuntu> hello
[10:07] <Krypt|c> Belutz : it should, yep
[10:07] <IceDC571> pogo-stick?
[10:07] <ubuntu> im a beginner here in linux
[10:07] <Krypt|c> Belutz : the hardware detection itself is done by the kernel which should be identical
[10:08] <nickrud_> ubuntu then, ask away
[10:08] <Belutz> Krypt|c: ic ic...
[10:08] <ubuntu> im using livecd. how do i access my c?
[10:08] <spanglesontoast> where is the nicotine version your using?
[10:08] <jcoxon> here is really bad one http://japan.linux.com/userimages/sado/20040121-1.png
[10:09] <jcoxon> pogo is sort of a launcher
[10:09] <nickrud_> huh, I don't use windows, so, maybe some one else has that one
[10:09] <delltony> can someone look at this and explain to me why mplayer doesn't want to compile? http://pastebin.com/310406  or point me to a deb with libmp3lame enabled?
[10:09] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : Networking/Universe
[10:09] <IceDC571> heh.. mandrake, eh?
[10:09] <jcoxon> thats just where i found the screenshot
[10:09] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:09] <spanglesontoast> ah ty
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> darn it, okay guys, I need help
[10:09] <Belutz> IceDC571: may i private message you?
[10:09] <IceDC571> IceDC571: sure
[10:09] <IceDC571> lol
[10:10] <redtech> how can I change the power settings.  When I close the lid on my lapper to not turn off or hibernate?
[10:10] <IceDC571> Belutz: sure
[10:10] <againstme> can someone please private message me and walk me through installing apps on ubuntu? thanks for the help.
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> the only way I can get stuff to play correctly now is by opening it in firefox
[10:10] <nickrud_> ubuntu if you don't get an answer soon, ask again
[10:10] <jcoxon> againstme, its very easy use synaptic from the gnome menu
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[10:11] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit 'stuff'?
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> what servers do you know of krypt|c?
[10:11] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : for ubuntu or soulseek?
[10:11] <GURT> is there anyway i can get to a command line before gnome loads?
[10:11] <spanglesontoast> soulseek
[10:12] <ubuntu> hello all: im using livecd. how do i access my c:? my documents?
[10:12] <Hikaru79> ubuntu, mount /dev/hda1
[10:12] <againstme> sorry just found it
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: mainy .avi videos, but most formats of videos are doing it to me now
[10:12] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : server.slsknet.org
[10:12] <spanglesontoast> do I have to register a username etc?
[10:12] <jcoxon> GURT, when you are about login change the session to terminal
[10:12] <nickrud_> GURT you can hit alt-ctl-f1 any time after the screen goes black during the boot
[10:12] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : yep
[10:12] <spanglesontoast> kk
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> My problem is, every media player on my computer SUDDENLY totally screws up the brightness and contraste on my video files.  Why did they all suddenly start doing this?
[10:13] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : the really odd thing is that other linux/nicotine clients can browse my files just fine, but browsing from a windows soulseek client results in an error
[10:13] <GURT> and then i can do apt-get such and such?
[10:13] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit I'll back off on that one, I just use mplayer, and so far, so good :)
[10:13] <ChurcH> anyone seen Kamping_Kaiser this morning?
[10:13] <spanglesontoast> ah
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: mplayer is doing it too
[10:14] <spanglesontoast> where do i register for that server?
[10:14] <ubuntu> thanks
[10:14] <GURT> this is a post reguarding what i'm trying to do --> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=1121923
[10:14] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : should be able to do it from within nicotine itself
[10:14] <againstme> after i load synaptic, my package doesnt show up in the menu
[10:15] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : just choose a username/pass.  If you get login errors in the status window, choose a different nickname
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> I first noticed the problem in xine-ui playing quicktem, then gxine playing avi, then totem-xine playing avi, then vlc playing avi, then totem-xine playing realmedia and quicktime, then all of my media players playing all formats
[10:15] <Krypt|c> againstme : which package?
[10:16] <againstme> a firewall package i believe
[10:16] <nickrud_> GURT that link is a bit too top level, which one should I look at :)
[10:16] <ssgt2002> how do I set my root password on a new ubuntu system
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> the connect button is faded out
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> ssgt2002: you don't need root, use sudo
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[10:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:16] <Krypt|c> againstme : any particular firewall package?
[10:16] <againstme> firestarter and its a .tar
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> ah
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> dw
[10:17] <Krypt|c> againstme : you can use the search function along the top... firestarter is listed in synaptec
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> what can i download?
[10:17] <nickrud_> againstme I may have mis understood, but why aren't you getting firestarter as deb from ubuntu?
[10:18] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : whatcha mean?
[10:18] <spanglesontoast> is it a legal thing
[10:18] <spanglesontoast> or everything
[10:18] <againstme> i just downloaded that as a test file to try and understand how to install files under ubuntu
[10:18] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : it's primarily used for music sharing, but you can also search for pictures and avi's and the like
[10:18] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : everything
[10:18] <nickrud_> ubotu tell againstme about components
[10:19] <nickrud_> ubotu tell againstme about repositories
[10:19] <Madpilot> againstme: firestarter is in Ubuntu's repos. you don't need a .tar.
[10:19] <spanglesontoast> why hasn't it been stopped?
[10:19] <Krypt|c> againstme : It's best to use the ubuntu supplied packages available in the Synaptec Package Manager
[10:19] <ChurcH> ubotu morning
[10:19] <spanglesontoast> like breaking the law etc
[10:19] <ubotu> ChurcH: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:19] <ChurcH> O_O
[10:19] <Krypt|c> spanglesontoast : no idea... probably not enough users on it to make it worthwhile compared to torrents and the like
[10:20] <spanglesontoast> cheers for that mate well I'll prob be back going to grab some toast :D
[10:20] <IceGuest_5_> Guest_580> how do i get the modem to dial ... once i get the configuration set up?
[10:20] <IceGuest_5_> [04:21]  <Guest_580> or does it do it automatically?.
[10:20] <nickrud_> againstme that is the best way to install files on ubuntu
[10:21] <againstme> ok but say i want to download something that isnt in synaptic
[10:22] <Madpilot> againstme: grab the .deb version if you can...
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> againstme: first make sure you've checked if it's in some repository you haven't listed.  If there's no suitible repository, grab a .deb and dpkg --install it
[10:22] <Belutz> anyone can recommend a book about linux that a newbie should read or as a reference?
[10:22] <nickrud_> againstme then, I'd point you at ubuntuguide, but I'm not supposed to, until it's fixed
[10:22] <Krypt|c> Then you would download and uncompress the package you want, and follow the instructions in the README or INSTALL files that are usually included
[10:22] <Krypt|c> Belutz : The Linux Cookbook
[10:22] <againstme> ok and then unpack the .deb file and......
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> Belutz: I think you should start by reading a unix manual, like http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf
[10:22] <Krypt|c> Belutz : It's actually written with debian examples
[10:22] <egi> !ubuntuguide
[10:23] <nickrud_> againstme no, no need to unpack
[10:23] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> Belutz: then read the Rute Users Guide, and The Linux Cookbook, and there are a few other good ones
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[10:23] <ubotu> I heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[10:23] <nickrud_> if you have a good deb, then, sudo dpkg -i <deb> will install the deb.
[10:23] <ssgt2002> how do I setup a passwd for root so I can do stuff in a newly installed ubuntu system
[10:23] <Belutz> Linux cookbook is from o'reilly if i'm not mistaken?
[10:23] <againstme> im trying to download a newsreader and i got the deb package but i can get it to run
[10:23] <pepsix> hows breezy doing?
[10:24] <nickrud_> rute is excellent
[10:24] <Krypt|c> Nope, it's from No Starch
[10:24] <Belutz> ok
[10:24] <Krypt|c> Belutz : http://www.nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=lcbk
[10:25] <IceGuest_5_> how do i connect my dial up connection
[10:25] <nickrud_> againstme probably, whatever news reader you have, is available as a package from ubuntu.
[10:25] <IceGuest_5_> i did pon
[10:25] <IceGuest_5_> it did nothing
[10:25] <IceGuest_5_> :-\
[10:25] <IceGuest_5_> :-\
[10:25] <nickrud_> read those links I posted to you thru ubotu
[10:25] <rss> hi, i have got few ringtones in .dat format... what application do I use to play them?
[10:25] <redtech> how can I change my power settings.  When I close the lid on my laptop to not turn off or hibernate?
[10:26] <rss> mplayer does not play them
[10:26] <whiprush> redtech: look in /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn
[10:26] <whiprush> you probably want to change lid.sh to sleep.sh in the action line
[10:27] <rss> about ,dat audio files...
[10:27] <redtech> whiprush, do I need to restart something after editing?
[10:28] <whiprush> redtech: I think so, probably acpid
[10:28] <redtech> i just saw that.  thanks
[10:29] <Madpilot> odd... the Linux book I've got has *nothing* on dpkg in the index... when as dpkg/Debian created?
[10:29] <Madpilot> *was
[10:30] <egi> rss: my best guess is to try to recognize the .dat format by #file <filename>.dat
[10:30] <nickrud_> Madpilot i think, 1993
[10:30] <Madpilot> nickrud_: this book is pub. 2000. should have something... oh well, it was free from a friend...
[10:31] <egi> then probably we know what application to open
[10:31] <nickrud_> Madpilot some people think that if it isn't rpm ...
[10:31] <BeatYou> heyy
[10:31] <BeatYou> has anyone ever tripped on DXM before
[10:31] <GURT> nickrud_: sorry.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25413
[10:31] <BeatYou> from cough syrupt
[10:32] <Krypt|c> Madpilot : Most linux books have this odd idea that Redhat = Linux.
[10:32] <Krypt|c> It annoys those of us who know better :)
[10:32] <BeatYou> i extracted DXM from vicks 44 into a salt and mixed it in with 7 up
[10:32] <BeatYou> and omg, tripping balls
[10:33] <GURT> how do you extract dxm from vicks?
[10:33] <BeatYou> boil it
[10:33] <egi> #extract vicks.tar.gz
[10:33] <egi> :D
[10:33] <GURT> hah
[10:33] <IceDC571> lol what a command
[10:33] <vladuz976> hi i run fluxbox on ubuntu, anyone know how to add applications to the startup? what file do i need to configure, i thought it's .xsession in home i can't find it
[10:33] <Madpilot> he, there's about eight index entries for RPM...
[10:33] <IceDC571> do we need to learn how to extract again, kids?
[10:34] <nickrud_> I hate getting called on hard ones ;0
[10:34] <Madpilot> guess I need to cough up for one of the O'Reilly books...
[10:34] <GURT> thats a hard one?
[10:34] <BeatYou> http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/otc/dxmextra.html
[10:34] <IceDC571> or are we still using the Kids Desktop Environment?
[10:34] <GURT> did we ever?
[10:34] <BeatYou> this is only a 2nd platue trip though, im kind of disappointed
[10:34] <BeatYou> no visuals
[10:35] <nickrud_> GURT well, from my perspective right now, yes, maybe tomorrow it'll be a 'doh'
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> anyone reading me?
[10:35] <BeatYou> nah
[10:35] <Krypt|c> Nope.
[10:35] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: are you a good book?
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> nice
[10:36] <ColonelKernel> thanks
[10:36] <BeatYou> anybody live in canda
[10:36] <Krypt|c> BeatYou : yep
[10:36] <IceDC571> i wish.. i love Canada :)
[10:36] <ColonelKernel> got centos as my server and ubuntu as my desktop
[10:36] <Krypt|c> BeatYou : about 33 million last count.
[10:36] <BeatYou> Krypt|c you live in BC ?
[10:36] <BeatYou> that famous BC bud
[10:36] <BeatYou> i want
[10:36] <Krypt|c> Alberta
[10:37] <BeatYou> i got a guy up in BC that ships me bud buy the 1/4oz.
[10:37] <Krypt|c> heh, BC bud is world famous
[10:37] <Krypt|c> wb tiglionabbit
[10:37] <Madpilot> BeatYou: I'm in BC. no bud, sorry...
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> that's bizarre.  I can run totem even when only totem-gstreamer is installed, but totem isn't
[10:37] <GURT> drugs are kick-ass
[10:38] <BeatYou> Madpilot im sorry dude
[10:38] <Madpilot> BeatYou: I stay away from that stuff. it doesn't work on me anyway, so I stick with beer!
[10:38] <GURT> anyone ever make black tar heroien out of a pen cap and a tooh pick?
[10:38] <BeatYou> hahha
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> !info totem
[10:38] <BeatYou> i stared at a fish tank for the past 2 hours on DXM
[10:38] <ubotu> totem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> ah, it's a dummy package
[10:38] <Krypt|c> ye gads, did I join #narcotics when I wasn't looking?
[10:39] <IceDC571> haha its a dummy package!
[10:39] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit totem is a meta package, it depends on -gstreamer or -xine
[10:39] <IceDC571> that proves why you can run it with only totem-gstreamer instealled
[10:39] <BeatYou> oh fuck
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> yes it does
[10:39] <BeatYou> why isn't this illegal ?
[10:39] <BeatYou> who knew over the counter drugs could be so amazing
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> but it still doesn't tell me why TOTEM SCREWS UP ALL MY MEDIA PLAYERS.
[10:39] <nickrud_> lol
[10:40] <Krypt|c> I've never liked Totem...
[10:40] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: because you have K-this and K-that
[10:40] <nickrud_> I've liked looking at totem ...
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> if I EVER run Totem, any media player I launch after it has its same screwed up state until I kill X
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: what?
[10:40] <GURT> ever hear about that kid on IRC that told everyone he ate shrooms
[10:40] <Krypt|c> I've had enough problems with various media players and shiznit I actually bought Office Crossover
[10:40] <Krypt|c> Works great.
[10:40] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: nevermind... i think im on drugs
[10:40] <GURT> and then jumped on a police car
[10:40] <GURT> and got shot by the police
[10:40] <Ninwa> That was fucking weird.
[10:40] <BeatYou> haha
[10:40] <BeatYou> what an idiot
[10:41] <qt2> IceDC571, icecast was easy to set up in windows...
[10:41] <Ninwa> Gnome just randomly kicked me to the login screen.
[10:41] <Ninwa> It locked up, the screen went weird, and then login screen.
[10:41] <Ninwa> That's not normal.
[10:41] <IceDC571> qt2: heh.. are you progressing?
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> well, I'll be restarting AGAIN because of stupid totem
[10:41] <Xodus> life is not normal either.. hehe
[10:41] <nickrud_> whoa, I've done a lot of killall mplayer totem-etc, I've never had to kill X
[10:41] <Ninwa> Anyone have that happen to them before?
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> I can't believe it's doing tihs now, and I can't figure out why it would
[10:41] <Xodus> anyone... knows how to get a better resolution out of gnome for a a geforce?
[10:41] <BeatYou> im all about the closed source
[10:41] <Tsukasa> tiglionabbit, tried to replace totem with totem-xine? ^^
[10:42] <BeatYou> software patents
[10:42] <GURT> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=irc+shrooms+died+Dan+Bucci&btnG=Search
[10:42] <ompaul> I hate it when you cut and paste a directory name and it has a space in it, thus a program which wants to use it does not pop in the \ before the space and it looks like something other than the command line is wrong :-/
[10:42] <rob^> has anyone had problems with Thunderbird crahsing lately?
[10:42] <tiglionabbit> Tsukasa: yes, I have tried totem-gstreamer and totem-xine, and they are both giving me the same problems now
[10:42] <Coyctecm> hmm
[10:42] <tiglionabbit> Tsukasa: it was totem-xine that was giving me the problems in the first place
[10:42] <GURT> i ahven't rob
[10:42] <Tsukasa> hmm
[10:42] <Krypt|c> rob^ : nope, but I find I have to kill firefox every few days because it turns into a huge hog.
[10:42] <nickrud_> solution: no spaces anywhere :)
[10:43] <Belutz> !info xine
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> this problem developed really slowly, but now it effects all kinds of totem
[10:43] <rob^> Krypt|c, yeah not wrong
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> gxine has the same problem as totem-gstreamer and totem-xine are showing me right now, only it doesn't spread to other media players
[10:43] <Tsukasa> BeatYou, I'm all about open source since I know of these very charming facts: http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf
[10:44] <Belutz> IceDC571: what email client in ubuntu that can use gnupg ?
[10:44] <Xodus> BeatYou, not bad
[10:44] <rob^> stuff it its segfaulting
[10:44] <resiak> Belutz: mutt, evolution
[10:44] <rob^> bugzilla here I come
[10:44] <Xodus> pretty cool...
[10:44] <Krypt|c> Evolution is the shiznit.
[10:44] <resiak> Belutz: thunderbird, and so on.
[10:44] <Belutz> resiak: ok, thx :)
[10:44] <Krypt|c> evolution is also capable of checking exchange servers
[10:45] <resiak> Belutz: IOW just about any mail client
[10:45] <nickrud_> Belutz evolution is reasonably capable with gpg, (your config) and so can mutt (your neck :)
[10:45] <Krypt|c> any client that can check the variety of mail servers that evolution does wins in my book
[10:45] <Belutz> anyone tried yahoo messenger for linux?
[10:45] <Krypt|c> I actually I can't think of any other client that checks as many, even for windows
[10:45] <Krypt|c> Belutz : once or twice... I prefer using gaim for yahoo/msn/icq
[10:46] <nickrud_> O
[10:46] <delltony> speaking of evolution can it parse gmail?
[10:46] <nickrud_> I've been using evo since .8 (not a brag, just a statement of satisfaction)
[10:46] <Xodus> hmmm anyone, anyone who knows to get a better resolution outta ubuntu, am goin crazy on this 1024.768resolution!!!
[10:47] <IceDC571> anything can parse gmail
[10:47] <Krypt|c> delltony : yep
[10:47] <delltony> well i don't know abot that cause they changed there login thing cause firefox wasn't able to login with their extention so it had to be modified
[10:47] <delltony> thats why i asked about evolutioin
[10:47] <delltony> i will give it a try
[10:47] <Krypt|c> delltony : I use it to collect 3 gmail accounts, 2 pop accounts and 3 imap accounts
[10:47] <Belutz> i'm hungry :(
[10:48] <Xodus> hmmm anyone, anyone who knows to get a better resolution outta ubuntu, am goin crazy on this 1024.768resolution!!!??? :(
[10:48] <delltony> ok good deal thanks
[10:48] <Krypt|c> Belutz : I recommend pizza to resolve that dependency :)
[10:48] <IceDC571> Xodus: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:48] <Belutz> Krypt|c: hahaha...
[10:49] <Belutz> Krypt|c: what time is it at your place?
[10:49] <Krypt|c> ssgt2002:51
[10:49] <Krypt|c> argh
[10:49] <Krypt|c> it's 2:51
[10:49] <Belutz> 2:51 AM ?
[10:49] <ColonelKernel>  /dns 205.171.3.65
[10:49] <Krypt|c> yep
[10:49] <Tsukasa> apt-get dist-pizza
[10:50] <Belutz> Krypt|c: not sleepy yet?
[10:50] <Gobfrey> I'm having problems installing a program
[10:50] <Gobfrey> can anyone give me a little help?
[10:50] <ompaul> Tuskasa you may want to get the more-toppings package with that
[10:50] <Krypt|c> Belutz : getting there... I drank a pot of french pressed fresh ground coffee at 10pm though...
[10:50] <Belutz> Tsukasa: we can order pizza using apt-get? hehehehe
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> Gobfrey: sure, what are you trying to install?
[10:50] <Belutz> Krypt|c: ic... hehehe it's 15:50 in here
[10:51] <Gobfrey> hugin, a photo stitching program
[10:51] <Krypt|c> lol
[10:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that was odd
[10:51] <Belutz> haven't had my lunch
[10:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[10:51] <Gobfrey> tiglionabbit, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/468
[10:51] <Belutz> it's hard to move my ass when i'm in #ubuntu
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> oh..  dunno
[10:52] <nickrud_> Hey, Church
[10:52] <Belutz> and i haven't start my coding too... *doh*
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> grr, ima restart X again, brb
[10:52] <z|bandito> how do you chroot sftp logins?
[10:53] <Krypt|c> z|bandito : http://www.netadmintools.com/art294.html
[10:53] <Krypt|c> GIYF :)
[10:54] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: is the program installed, otherwise?
[10:54] <nickrud_> So, Church, you have a website?
[10:55] <Hunch> hI ALL
[10:56] <Madpilot> I'm off to sleep. Later, all.
[10:56] <tristan_> Hello
[10:56] <tristan_> I have a little problem with the use of irc on Ubuntu
[10:56] <tristan_> Shall I expose my trouble.....?
[10:56] <johnnybezak> yeah
[10:56] <overture> is there an elegant way to pipe into bzip2? i want to create a compressed file that summaries a directory (i.e. du -ha | bzip2 -9 > fooFile , but that works)
[10:57] <overture> tristan_, sure
[10:57] <nickrud_> this is the place for troubles :)
[10:57] <tristan_> I try to connect to rizon
[10:57] <Hunch> Does anyone know how to change the password to the keyring?
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> overture: if you say `command` it returns the stdout of that command instead
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> I mean executes the standardout..  no, that's not what you want
[10:57] <tristan_> It says Looking up irc.rizon.net
[10:57] <gotonpo> what's everyone's favorite gui ftp client?
[10:57] <HappyFool> overture: what's the problem? that looks ok to me
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> gotonpo: nautilus?
[10:57] <tristan_> and it says : Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[10:57] <ssgt2002> kbear
[10:58] <Krypt|c> gotonpo : gftp works
[10:58] <tristan_> But I am quite sure that it is irc.rizon.net
[10:58] <nickrud_> gtp, what else :)
[10:58] <gotonpo> wow, nautilus is capable of ftping? i have a lot to lear.
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> tristan_: irc.rizon.net is up and working.  Uhh, what client?
[10:58] <gotonpo> n.
[10:58] <johnnybezak> tristan_: thats not right, I just tried pinging irc.rizon.net and it didn't work
[10:58] <overture> holy crap, that worked
[10:58] <tristan_> X-chat
[10:59] <gotonpo> i'm trying to transfer a large directory in gftp.. and it just hangs up on "loading directory"
[10:59] <overture> HappyFool, not sure what i was doing before, but i couldnt get it to work =p
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> okay, I removed all configuration files for totem.  Now, I'm going to be brave and install this thing again...
[10:59] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone recommend an irc client for me?
[10:59] <johnnybezak> gotonpo: you can use nautilus can't you?
[10:59] <overture> guess its just a 4am thing..
[10:59] <Krypt|c> sexcopter8000m : bitchx
[10:59] <Belutz> HappyFool: hai... nice to see u again :D
[10:59] <johnnybezak> sexcopter8000m: xchat or irssi
[10:59] <gotonpo> johnnybezak: i thought nautilus was just the file browser.. i'm extremely new
[10:59] <HappyFool> hi Belutz :)
[10:59] <tristan_> OK. It worked now
[10:59] <sexcopter8000m> ok thanks
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> gotonpo: you can use it for ftp, ssh, and smb as well I believe
[11:00] <tristan_> After I had pinged the server it worked
[11:00] <johnnybezak> gotonpo: i think you can use nautilus too
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> gotonpo: it can also burn things to a cd or dvd
[11:00] <gotonpo> wow!
[11:00] <gotonpo> that's really nice.
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> mmhmm
[11:00] <znh> woah..
[11:00] <johnnybezak> gotonpo: sure is, nautilus is sweet
[11:01] <johnnybezak> gotonpo: just enter ftp://ftp.server.org in the address bar in nautilus
[11:01] <znh> I just styled my xfce4 a bit, check it out: http://isl33t.net/pics/xfce4-3.jpg
[11:01] <tristan_> By the way. When I was using Windows (I changed for Ubuntu yesterday ^^) I was able to use a firewire network
[11:01] <Gobfrey> happyFool: it's installed, but it doesn't run.  The error message is  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/467
[11:02] <tristan_> Is it still possible and simple to set up on Ubuntu knowing that it would be to set up a network between one computer running on Windows and the other one on Linux
[11:02] <nickrud_> gotonpo nautilus is sweet, try places->Connect to sever
[11:02] <johnnybezak> tristan_: unsure google it
[11:02] <nickrud_> gotonpo nautilus is sweet, try places->Connect to server :)
[11:03] <tristan_> Well I googled it and I have only seen things about recompiling Ubuntu Kernel so...
[11:03] <tristan_> That would be too difficult for me
[11:03] <gotonpo> hot damn. nautilus IS sweet! this is working better than gftp for sure
[11:03] <gotonpo> nickrud_: i'll try that :) thanks
[11:03] <johnnybezak> tristan_: hmm yeah probably :)
[11:03] <gotonpo> gott atry the burning functions too
[11:04] <qt2> IceDC571, not at all... eh. :(
[11:04] <nickrud_> tristan_ if someone is saying 'recompile ubuntu kernel'
[11:04] <nickrud_> walk away
[11:04] <sexcopter8000m> and what about a good email client, can anyone recommend me one?
[11:04] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: try this: 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib hugin'
[11:04] <znh> sexcopter8000m: eh nice nickname.. well thunderbird is awesome to me :)
[11:04] <johnnybezak> sexcopter8000m: i use thunderbird
[11:04] <sexcopter8000m> yeah i quite like taht too
[11:04] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: i *think* /usr/loca/lib is not in the lib path by default
[11:04] <johnnybezak> sexcopter8000m: from the mozilla project
[11:04] <nickrud_> evolution
[11:04] <tiglionabbit> sexcopter8000m: thunderbird, ximian evolution, but I just use gmail
[11:04] <gotonpo> hm. i just got an error "Invalid parameters" when copying blahblahblah when trying to ftp with nautilus. :(
[11:04] <Crutonman> Are any of you familiar with the nvidia drivers?
[11:04] <johnnybezak> sexcopter8000m:  or then there is evolution
[11:04] <Gobfrey> wow, it works
[11:05] <znh> yea
[11:05] <gotonpo> Retry yields the same error again and again
[11:05] <Gobfrey> HappyFool: thanks
[11:05] <Crutonman> After I Installed the Nvidia drivers and switched off the stock "nv" All my applications font sizes went way up
[11:05] <Gobfrey> HappyFool: now how do I make it work without typing in the library first?
[11:05] <tristan_> OK. So I will wait someone make it available in Ubuntu
[11:05] <sexcopter8000m> in windows with thunderbird emails i sent from my uni account kept saying from my gmail account
[11:05] <sexcopter8000m> which was weird
[11:05] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: if that works, you can add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and run... um. ldconfig (as root -- 'sudo ldconfig')
[11:05] <tiglionabbit> Crutonman: yes, nvidia drivers have their own ways of controlling fonts
[11:05] <sexcopter8000m> but i quite fancy trying thunderbird again
[11:05] <johnnybezak> tristan_: try filing a feature request or a bug report after you have had a good look around
[11:06] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: take a look at 'man ldconfig'
[11:06] <Crutonman> \
[11:06] <gotonpo> looks like it may be a single file causing the error..
[11:06] <gotonpo> this channel moves too fast
[11:06] <gotonpo> aaaah
[11:06] <gotonpo> rgh
[11:06] <Crutonman> Heh.
[11:06] <Krypt|c> yeah, the scroll factor is pretty high
[11:06] <Krypt|c> heh
[11:06] <znh> gotonpo: compensate by reading faster 8-|
[11:06] <gotonpo> znh: hehehe
[11:06] <nickrud_> tristan_ I've pretty much got by with that attiutde for several years. The people doing the work usually know what's wrong.
[11:06] <Gobfrey> /usr/local/lib is already in there
[11:07] <markus> hi guy's how to login with root in KDE ?
[11:07] <tristan_> That's just I am very new to Linux.
[11:07] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: maybe ldconfig hasn't been run by 'make install' if it bailed after the 'update-desktop-*' error thing
[11:07] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: try 'sudo ldconfig' and then 'hugin'
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> markus: use sudo
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[11:07] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> markus: you don't need a root login
[11:08] <tristan_> I will try to set up a network using ethernet between my two computers. I think it will be easier
[11:08] <marcreichelt> hi there
[11:08] <nickrud_> tristan_ wellcome.
[11:08] <tristan_> Anyway, thanks for the help
[11:08] <gotonpo> hi marcreichelt !
[11:08] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : ya know, I've never figured out that approach by ubuntu...
[11:08] <johnnybezak> tristan_: it probably will be
[11:08] <tristan_> At least I know I may have to ping rizon before being able to connect
[11:08] <Krypt|c> that whole use sudo instead of su to root
[11:08] <Gobfrey> HappyFool:  Thanks very much...  It works now
[11:09] <johnnybezak> tristan_: if the network is down obviously you cant join it :P
[11:09] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: well, it is considered bad practice in any distro to login to the xserver as root
[11:09] <HappyFool> Gobfrey: np ;)
[11:09] <ateves> what default font and size do you guys use?
[11:09] <xinel> hehe
[11:09] <ateves> for gnome
[11:09] <marcreichelt> does anybody know how I can automatically switch of the PC after shutdown?
[11:09] <Krypt|c> yeah, but it makes things rather inconvenient for us CLI monkeys <g>
[11:09] <xinel> moving into experimental packages again
[11:09] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: they frown apon it, but don't disallow you from doing it.  So, ubuntu just made their default settings not bother with it, so..
[11:09] <xinel> :P
[11:09] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: hows that?  Just sudo -s, it's the same thing as su
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: if anything, it's harder for the gui users, because they want their sudo nautilus
[11:10] <Krypt|c> it's longer to type <g>
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: then make an alias, sheesh
[11:10] <xinel> I think sudo is meant to be more secure
[11:10] <xinel> ???
[11:10] <Krypt|c> *snicker*
[11:10] <againstme> can someone show me how to install a non deb app?
[11:10] <gotonpo> nickrud_: i've never changed the ROOT password.. would.. that be wise?
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: alias su="sudo -s"
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> viola
[11:10] <guerrero> againstme: alien
[11:10] <gotonpo> nickrud_: or is it safe not ever having used root?
[11:10] <HappyFool> nickrud_: i think the idea is possibly protection from self. if you actually login as root, it is easy to do inadvertent damage
[11:11] <nickrud_> gotonpo i quote 'change passwords regularly"
[11:11] <gotonpo> heheh
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> there's also the fact that it's very difficult to get any sort of virus or spyware if you don't run as root
[11:11] <HappyFool> nickrud_: but, if you're logged in as a user always, you need to add 'sudo' to do root-like things, so less chance of total breakage
[11:11] <guerrero> it certainly forces of you to think of everything you do as root as something special when you have to type sudo
[11:11] <markus> ican't autologin with my kde
[11:11] <markus> it say pass wrong\
[11:11] <nickrud_> and, I have used sudo for years, ubuntu's policy is not new
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> markus: maybe it is wrong
[11:11] <markus> no
[11:11] <markus> it's true
[11:11] <marcreichelt> gotonpo, do you know anything of why my PC does not automatically switch off after shutdown?
[11:11] <amittp> hey anyone has idea how to get "fop n transform" utillties for xml
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> =P
[11:12] <markus> the pass 123
[11:12] <markus> how come ??
[11:12] <HappyFool> amittp: what on earth are those?
[11:12] <gotonpo> marcreichelt: i do not. :(
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> marcreichelt: power handling, yeah, people sometimes have that problem
[11:12] <HostingGeek> Australian Association Against Acronym Abuse - AAAAA
[11:12] <guerrero> marcreichelt check your bios and make sure you are supporting ACPI rev
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> marcreichelt: it has something to do with the configuration for acpi or some power thingy
[11:13] <marcreichelt> tiglionabbit, where are the solutions for those power handlings?
[11:13] <amittp> HappyFool, command line utils to convert xml to svg
[11:13] <HappyFool> amittp: try 'apt-cache search fop xml' -- i get some hits, but i have no idea if they're valid
[11:13] <marcreichelt> guerrero, ACPI is activated
[11:13] <guerrero> check you bios first
[11:13] <Krypt|c> I've always disallowed remote root, and never use X as root.
[11:13] <marcreichelt> I'm using a notebook by ASUS
[11:13] <guerrero> ah
[11:13] <markus> any help for me ?
[11:13] <guerrero> have you tried shutting down from a live cd or other os?
[11:14] <cyphase> omg
[11:14] <markus> incorect password try again :(
[11:14] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: they probably figured it was a good idea to disallow logging in to X as root, and since most ubuntu users are gui people, why bother them with having them create a second password?
[11:14] <cyphase> it just registered for me..
[11:14] <marcreichelt> guerrero, suse and gentoo worked
[11:14] <HappyFool> markus: if you don't get an answer here, try perhaps in #kubuntu? (you are using kde, right?)
[11:14] <markus> yup
[11:14] <cyphase> people say Linux is a *nix system, but it's spelled Linux, not Linix
[11:14] <cyphase> lol
[11:14] <againstme> ok so i have the alien.tar package, what do i do with it now?
[11:14] <cyphase> i *just* realized
[11:14] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : heh, because having a root password is good.
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> cyphase: that's because it's based on Unix, Minix, and Multics
[11:15] <cyphase> yea, i know
[11:15] <znh> Do you guys like my XFCE4 styles and such? http://isl33t.net/pics/xfce4-3.jpg Please give me some suggestions to make it even nicer
[11:15] <cyphase> it's weird that i just realized it though
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: why, what purpose does it serve?
[11:15] <amittp> HappyFool, nope :(
[11:15] <cyphase> i've been using Linux since..
[11:15] <cyphase> hmm..
[11:15] <cyphase> well, a while
[11:15] <gotonpo> how many here recommend firewall software?
[11:15] <ssgt2002> none
[11:15] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : I'd just see more value in strictly enforcing good passwords by default
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> oh, I just realized something a root password could help you with!
[11:15] <cyphase> lol
[11:15] <znh> gotonpo: a hardware firewall is recommended
[11:15] <cyphase> yea
[11:16] <ateves> hi! on my gnome desktop all folder and filenames are shown complete, but some are very long. can i shorten them so that the whole name is shown after hovering or focussing?
[11:16] <gotonpo> znh: i have a linksys router w/ firewall.. do i need more than that?
[11:16] <tiglionabbit> what if you have multiple admin users, and one of them edits you out of the sources.list!  rofl
[11:16] <cyphase> i missed the "software" part
[11:16] <cyphase> gotnopo, no
[11:16] <gotonpo> excellent.
[11:16] <tiglionabbit> I mean the sudoers list
[11:16] <tiglionabbit> blah
[11:16] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit the current required use of a root password is in web based administration
[11:16] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: what?  how
[11:16] <IceDC571> im done helping someone
[11:16] <znh> gotonpo: If your on linux, not really.. only if your going to run some much used ftp server or something like that in the server would bla bla.. i'm talking too many sorry
[11:17] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : phpmyadmin would be a good example
[11:17] <HappyFool> amittp: sorry, i don't have any other ideas. maybe 'apt-cache search xml' or 'apt-cache search svg', but those both give lots of hits
[11:17] <gotonpo> znh: no.. that helps me understand. thanks
[11:17] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : I suspect webmin might be similar
[11:17] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit try using cups admin (:631) without a root password
[11:17] <znh> gotonpo: hehe glad :)
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: using how?
[11:17] <whiprush> nickrud_: add the user to the lpadmin group.
[11:17] <pax> hmm how many of you ubuntu users know you are owned by 'default'?
[11:17] <Xodus> :D
[11:17] <Krypt|c> lol pax
[11:17] <IceDC571> pax: what?
[11:18] <IceDC571> oh
[11:18] <gotonpo> pax: not me :)
[11:18] <gotonpo> pax: what do you mean?
[11:18] <HappyFool> againstme: how did you get this file?
[11:18] <Krypt|c> Well I'm pretty sure I wasn't pwned by default :)
[11:18] <pax> last -d (in console and watch who owns you)
[11:18] <gotonpo> hm.
[11:18] <nickrud_> whiprush first of all, you cannot use :631 without adding cupsys to shadow (as best I know)
[11:18] <marcreichelt> tiglionabbit, I have "acpi" and "acpid" installed
[11:19] <znh> Hmm I'd like to play Enemy-Territory (and mods..) and to use teamspeak at the same time, but (ofcourse) it would block each other cuz I don't have hardware mixing.. does anyone know a solution for this - ?
[11:19] <nickrud_> then, you have to have a root password, a sudo password will not work
[11:19] <Krypt|c> pax : err, what are you on about?
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> marcreichelt: I can't tell you anything specific about it, because I haven't messed with it myself
[11:19] <whiprush> nickrud_: I just added my user to the lpadmin group. *shrug*
[11:19] <marcreichelt> tiglionabbit, but I don't find any config files in etc
[11:19] <overture> znh, can't get a sound card
[11:19] <marcreichelt> tiglionabbit, ah ok
[11:19] <marcreichelt> sorry
[11:19] <overture> ?*
[11:19] <lcore> Howto check exit code of the last bash command?
[11:19] <znh> overture: - ?
[11:19] <gotonpo> my user's password works for sudo..
[11:19] <HappyFool> lcore: echo $?
[11:19] <gotonpo> is that unusual?
[11:20] <HappyFool> lcore: well, $?   --- echo $? will just show it
[11:20] <overture> znh, a decent sound card with hardware mixing is a wonderful thing
[11:20] <znh> overture: yea
[11:20] <znh> overture: my es1371 does not have it
[11:20] <schasi> What is this multiseat thing you can choose at the install?
[11:20] <lcore> HappyFool,  thanks. Slipped of my mind.
[11:20] <Krypt|c> gotonpo : nope. normal.
[11:20] <lcore> exit
[11:20] <marcreichelt> tiglionabbit, ok - I leave now
[11:20] <marcreichelt> thanks
[11:20] <gotonpo> Krypt|c: goodgood
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> marcreichelt: look in /etc/init.d/ for acpi-support and acpid, and in /etc/default/ for the same filenames.  Pays to "locate"
[11:20] <marcreichelt> ah mom
[11:20] <pax> Krypt|c: just playing, there's a bug in ubuntu that shows an ip in last -d/-i .. made me reinstall just to find out it's a bug!
[11:21] <nickrud_> whiprush this has been a big pain in the butt amoung my friends; are you sure that the red text on the 127.0.0.1:631 text can be bypassed by adding a user to lpadmin?
[11:21] <guerrero> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2653.html
[11:21] <znh> I shot you down.. boom boom
[11:21] <guerrero> marcreichelt
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> marcreichelt: you should also have some acpi-related modules
[11:21] <Krypt|c> pax: lol
[11:21] <Krypt|c> pax : you might want to play around with chkrootkit and the joys of lsof to save yourself some hassles <G>
[11:21] <whiprush> nickrud_: I have it written down at work (for our cups server)
[11:21] <overture> znh, are you using esd then?
[11:22] <pax> Krypt|c: trust me I've done lot more than just sudo apt-get install chkrootkit
[11:22] <whiprush> nickrud_: we however made other changes, so it's possible that we altered the default.
[11:22] <whiprush> but I do know it's possible.
[11:22] <vladuz977> does anybody know how to add startup applications when i run fluxbox. on the forum i only find instructions for gnome
[11:22] <znh> overture: That doesn't seems to work with Enemy-Territory
[11:22] <nickrud_> whiprush oh, it's possible :)
[11:22] <znh> HiddenWolf has now be revealed
[11:23] <overture> znh, hmm, dunno then
[11:23] <pax> Krypt|c: chkrootkit means nothing, not even debsums can tell for certain, if you are owned by someone who know what they are doing, you gotta reinstall my man.
[11:23] <znh> bang bang..
[11:23] <znh> overture: np ;)
[11:23] <HiddenWolf> znh?
[11:23] <HappyFool> whiprush: you must have made other tweaks, cos i'm in lpadmin (by default, as the 'first' user) but i can do admin on localhost:631
[11:23] <znh> HiddenWolf: nevermind ;)
[11:23] <whiprush> can or can't?
[11:23] <Krypt|c> pax: yeah I know, but it's not a bad place to start if you're trying to see what's going on.
[11:23] <ateves> on my gnome desktop all folder and filenames are shown complete, but some are very long. can i shorten them so that the whole name is shown after hovering or focussing?
[11:23] <HappyFool> whiprush: errr. can't :P
[11:23] <whiprush> oh.
[11:23] <nickrud_> adduser cupsys shadow is the canonical fix :)
[11:24] <marcreichelt> guerrero, the url says that I have to recompile the kernel without acpi
[11:24] <marcreichelt> why that?
[11:24] <pax> Krypt|c: I tried chkrootkit, debsums, snoopy and many other tools, I went nuts ... 5 hours later and a reinstall, I find out it was reported as a bug in fedora
[11:24] <gotonpo> does anyone know how to display desktop icon's text to the left/right instead of underneath? i can do it inside of nautilus but not on the desktop
[11:25] <Krypt|c> pax : checking bug reports is definitely important when tracking down odd behaviour <g>
[11:25] <Krypt|c> pax : you can like save some hassle like that by also running snort/base
[11:25] <zyth> ooh awesome my palm happily plays .oggs
[11:25] <pax> yeah well .. now I can say that too.
[11:25] <Dreamer3> anyone else have terible memory leaks with Hoary?
[11:25] <Krypt|c> or even just running tcpdump
[11:25] <zyth> Anyone know how I can modify mpg321 input.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o output.ogg - to mass convert an entire folder of mp3s to .ogg?
[11:26] <whiprush> nickrud_: ah, I see (someone at work must have added cupsys to shadow), I was under the impression that that was the default.
[11:26] <Krypt|c> ethereal is also not a bad toy for checking on shiznit
[11:26] <znh> zyth: can be done with base - /me blinks @ bash geeks
[11:26] <nickrud_> whiprush no, it's not, and I deluser when I'm done
[11:26] <HappyFool> zyth: maybe use a bash for loop, or find
[11:26] <znh> zyth: *bash
[11:26] <adwait> when is breezy releasing
[11:26] <adwait> ?
[11:26] <pax> october
[11:27] <znh> when it's released
[11:27] <zyth> ahh ok
[11:27] <nickrud_> shadow is not a pleasant place for services
[11:27] <adwait> znh: helpful answer
[11:27] <zyth> I just want to somehow preserve the filenames... I will go read up on bash
[11:27] <zyth> thanks :)
[11:27] <HappyFool> zyth: something like      for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 foo.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o $(basename $i).ogg -; done
[11:27] <znh> adwait: I see
[11:27] <HappyFool> zyth: err, no, that's wrong, sorry
[11:27] <zyth> ahhh
[11:27] <zyth> lol
[11:28] <zyth> np :)
[11:28] <HappyFool> zyth: something like      for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 foo.mp3 -w - | oggenc -o $(basename $i .mp3).ogg -; done
[11:28] <nickrud_> whiprush I've been screwed by well intentioned co-workers too :)
[11:28] <nightswim> and yay for even more loss of quality
[11:29] <whiprush> heh
[11:29] <nightswim> by converting one lossy format into the other \o/
[11:29] <spanglesontoast> ogg is better than mp3
[11:29] <nightswim> yes
[11:29] <nightswim> so?
[11:29] <spanglesontoast> it just is lol
[11:29] <znh> I don't see any difference between ogg and mp3 ?
[11:29] <spanglesontoast> shame podcasting isn't in ogg
[11:29] <nightswim> converting from a crappy format into a better one
[11:29] <zyth> nightswim, I don't have access to originals, these are files from mp3.com back when it had actual music
[11:29] <nightswim> only makes it worse
[11:29] <nightswim> ok
[11:29] <zyth> nightswim, and the only freeware music player for palm ONLY plays .ogg (I don't want to use realplayer)
[11:30] <nightswim> just mind the even greater loss of quality doing this
[11:30] <nightswim> ok
[11:30] <nightswim> you have a good reason to do this
[11:30] <nightswim> most people dont :)
[11:30] <zyth> eh, they're 128kbps mp3 anyways, so I doubt I'll notice much, unfortunately
[11:31] <zyth> HappyFool, I'm getting errors on 'foo.mp3', which ought to be replaces with $i ...?
[11:31] <HappyFool> zyth: doh
[11:31] <Krypt|c> ok...it's definitely bedtime for this camper.  The coffee still hasn't worn off completely, but it's past 3:30am
[11:31] <HappyFool> zyth: sorry, late night, i guess
[11:31] <znh> :[] 
[11:31] <spanglesontoast> aren't there tools to do what zyth wants to do?
[11:31] <zyth> HappyFool, np :)
[11:31] <znh> HappyFool: just woke up
[11:32] <HappyFool> znh: no, but my ears are still ringing ;)
[11:32] <Krypt|c> you mean like right click and convert all to ogg?
[11:32] <LasseL> I am having a problem with sound that isn't in sync after watching a movie for a while in totem, but I am not sure where to start
[11:32] <Krypt|c> later folks :)
[11:32] <Razor-X> !info tnt
[11:32] <znh> LasseL: try using VLC, works great for me
[11:32] <zyth> HappyFool, eh, now it's choking on spaces in filenames... know any way around that? ;)
[11:32] <znh> LasseL: else you might have to install some better graphics drivers
[11:32] <spanglesontoast> how can i use samba to access another machines file shares?
[11:32] <HappyFool> zyth: put quotes around the $i
[11:32] <Razor-X> arrrggghhh, there is no tnt
[11:32] <Razor-X> fineth
[11:32] <zyth> spanglesontoast, I've no idea, I was just using mpg321 and oggenc
[11:33] <zyth> HappyFool, ok
[11:33] <Razor-X> znh: spread the VLC love ;)
[11:33] <znh> Razor-X: you bet
[11:33] <spanglesontoast> yep kryptic
[11:33] <HappyFool> zyth: and the $(basename ....).ogg, probably
[11:33] <znh> spanglesontoast: try with smbclient, or by mounting it
[11:33] <LasseL> znh, for some reason i am sure it is a sound issue
[11:33] <Razor-X> this is 2:33 AM for me, so, I normally don't spread VLC at this hour
[11:33] <HappyFool> zyth: test it by putting an 'echo' at the start of the command, and omit the '|'
[11:33] <znh> LasseL: hmm, have you got alsa(installed/configured) already?
[11:33] <Razor-X> znh: have you noticed recent VLC builds have been worse on the repos?
[11:33] <spanglesontoast> can't i just connect to it
[11:33] <LasseL> znh, how can I tell?
[11:34] <znh> Razor-X: you mean the many 404 errors?
[11:34] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: you can try 'smb://computer/share' in nautilus or mozilla
[11:34] <znh> LasseL: eh tell what?
[11:34] <Razor-X> znh: no, I mean the sound errors
[11:34] <IceDC571> is there a command to show what refresh rate i'm currently running?
[11:34] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: or Places -> Connect to server
[11:34] <LasseL> znh, if it is configured *properly*
[11:34] <znh> Razor-X: Oh didn't notice it yet :-D
[11:34] <znh> LasseL: not many to configure, should work by default
[11:34] <Razor-X> znh: stick around during... say... 3:00 PM PST
[11:34] <Razor-X> or just read some logs from then
[11:34] <Razor-X> and you'll understand
[11:34] <spanglesontoast> ah works ty
[11:35] <LasseL> znh, would libesd-alsa0 do something for me?
[11:35] <znh> Razor-X: I'll do that, maybe I can give a helping hand
[11:35] <aink> test
[11:35] <Razor-X> LasseL: try vlc-alsa, if it's not installed
[11:35] <znh> Razor-X: when is 3:00 in PST->GMT+1
[11:35] <LasseL> ok, actually I tried installing it yesterday, but got errors about missing files
[11:35] <zyth> HappyFool, ok, only issue now is it is making it 'foo.mp3.ogg'
[11:35] <Razor-X> znh: GMT-8 == PST
[11:35] <znh> LasseL: try apt-get update, might help
[11:36] <HappyFool> zyth: did you change the basename command to the second form?
[11:36] <Razor-X> so, in total GMT time
[11:36] <HappyFool> zyth: $(basename $i .mp3) ?
[11:36] <zyth> HappyFool, I made it for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 "$i" -w - | oggenc -o "$i.ogg" -; done since the basename was making it only output as .ogg
[11:36] <Razor-X> 15:00 GMT-9
[11:36] <Razor-X> because we're on PDT
[11:36] <zyth> HappyFool, sans filename
[11:36] <marcreichelt> guerrero?
[11:36] <Razor-X> (Pacific Daylight Time)
[11:36] <znh> Razor-X: confused.. xD
[11:36] <marcreichelt> apmd is not running ^
[11:36] <nickrud_> I do miss the ocean
[11:37] <znh> can you smell it..
[11:37] <Razor-X> znh: you're time 7:00
[11:37] <nickrud_> texas is .... flat
[11:37] <Razor-X> assuming a 24 hour clock
[11:37] <Razor-X> *your
[11:37] <HappyFool> zyth: does this not print a list of '.ogg' files? for i in *.mp3; do echo "$(basename $i .mp3).ogg"; done
[11:38] <znh> Razor-X: ok..I'm on vocation this monthday for two weeks.. So I'll be later in the channel to check it out
[11:38] <zyth> HappyFool, basename: too many arguments
[11:38] <zyth> Try `basename --help' for more information.
[11:38] <zyth> .ogg
[11:39] <HappyFool> zyth: hrm
[11:39] <znh> HappyFool: I think $i and .mp3 have to be melted together
[11:39] <HappyFool> zyth: oh, th $i also needs to be in quotes
[11:39] <HappyFool> *ponder*
[11:39] <jf6> A logiciel into order to convert wav to mp3?
[11:39] <jf6> please'
[11:39] <jf6> ??
[11:39] <HappyFool> jf6: lame ought to do that
[11:40] <jf6> HappyFool,  hum, i bad with the terminal
[11:40] <zyth> HappyFool, ok, now it prints stuff like Dj Doo - The Olympic Theme (Salt Lake City 2002).mp3.mp3.ogg
[11:40] <znh> Are streamrippers ilegal for private use(for e.g. to play at my car's mp3 player)
[11:40] <jf6> HappyFool, (and bad in english...)
[11:40] <zyth> HappyFool, the actual filename only being with 1 .mp3, of course
[11:40] <nickrud_>  `basename $file .jpg`.pdf is what I use, maybe you cna alter to fit
[11:41] <jf6> so?
[11:41] <Razor-X> !info w3
[11:41] <HappyFool> zyth: maybe: this: for i in *.mp3; do j=$(basename "$i" .mp3).ogg; echo "$j"; done
[11:41] <znh> !info znh
[11:41] <Razor-X> znh: ;)
[11:41] <znh> Package 'znh' does not exist.
[11:42] <znh> You bet i'm not a package
[11:42] <PPC_Guy> question.. Have Doom, DoomII and Ultimate Doom cd's for windows. Can I use those somehow with ubuntu say like with quake?
[11:42] <HappyFool> zyth: you assign to j first, then use it (in quotes) in the ogg command
[11:42] <zyth> HappyFool, perfect, that works
[11:42] <Razor-X> PPC_Guy: look up alternate Doom engines
[11:42] <HappyFool> zyth: inelegant; i don't know if there's a way to 'nest' quotes
[11:43] <Razor-X> I used to use a 3D one meself
[11:43] <PPC_Guy> Thx Razor-X Will do
[11:43] <Razor-X> made Doom so much more fun... ;0
[11:43] <Razor-X> *;)
[11:43] <zyth> HappyFool, yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to fit that into the conversion script, lol
[11:43] <Razor-X> (which is hard, seeing how fun Doom already is)
[11:44] <spanglesontoast> i hate these ugly cursors that come with ubuntu how do I change them
[11:44] <HappyFool> zyth: for i in *.mp3; do j=$(basename "$i" .mp3).ogg; mpg321 "$i" -w - | oggenc -o "$j" -; done
[11:44] <doive> am i the only one who thinkd printing is broken in hoary?
[11:44] <nickrud_> so, as a new to irc guy, just how may spangles on toast are there :)
[11:44] <spanglesontoast> er why you ask?
[11:45] <spanglesontoast> I love to play dumb that's all........
[11:45] <doive> or is it just usb printing?
[11:45] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: look in System -> Preferences, maybe, though i don't see anything obvious under Themes or Mouse
[11:45] <nickrud_> cuz over the last couple of months, sot has asked some good and dumb questions :)
[11:45] <Razor-X> !info emacspeak
[11:45] <ubotu> emacspeak: (speech output interface to Emacs), section universe/editors, is extra. Version: 17.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1206 kB, Installed size: 5512 kB
[11:45] <spanglesontoast> is it xcursor?
[11:45] <Razor-X> woohoo! ;)
[11:46] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you got emacspeak working? I tried it once in fedora but there were bits missing
[11:46] <PPC_Guy> question: Can I use apt-get to install fluxbox?
[11:46] <Razor-X> I will try
[11:46] <doive> admit it, everyone has just given up printing on unix these days haven't they?
[11:46] <IceDC571> i'm back in gnome :)
[11:46] <Razor-X> HappyFool: do you use emacs with everything?
[11:46] <doive> instead they just by a mac mini with every printer
[11:46] <Razor-X> (or as I call it, The Emacs Way (TM))
[11:47] <PPC_Guy> no problems printing here with a USB HP printer
[11:47] <IceDC571> from xfce that is.. gnome isnt so slow after all
[11:47] <HappyFool> Razor-X: no, i use x-chat/firefox also
[11:47] <Razor-X> HappyFool: other than your graphical web-browser ;0
[11:47] <Razor-X> *;)
[11:47] <HappyFool> doive: maybe look on the wiki: wiki.ubuntu.com   for info
[11:47] <doive> ppc don't tell me you are running the ppc version
[11:47] <doive> happyfool i have memorised that wiki
[11:47] <spanglesontoast> there aren't many nickrud
[11:47] <spanglesontoast> :P
[11:47] <PPC_Guy> running both.. Right now I'm on my celeron, but the printer works with both
[11:48] <spanglesontoast> ah hah
[11:48] <spanglesontoast> gcursor
[11:48] <spanglesontoast> to change it :P
[11:48] <doive> ppc_guy i guess i have to hear from someone who couldn't and fixed it
[11:48] <Razor-X> hmmm... it's prompting me for speech servers
[11:48] <Razor-X> which one should I use....
[11:48] <nickrud_> heh, I figured you knew :)
[11:49] <Razor-X> DECtalk Express? DECtalk Multivoice?
[11:49] <jf6> who know a logiciel to convert WAV to MP3
[11:49] <jf6> ?
[11:49] <doive> it sees the printer and everything but when i print it goes "whirr" and doesn't print
[11:49] <Razor-X> Software DECtalk?
[11:49] <spanglesontoast> do you keep a log sir?
[11:49] <PPC_Guy> did upi install with the printer connected dovie?
[11:49] <doive> upi?
[11:49] <PPC_Guy> apt-get cups update? mabye?
[11:49] <PPC_Guy> you.. Sorry, new keyboard..
[11:50] <spanglesontoast> I wonder where the cursors actually go?
[11:50] <nickrud_> well, the log is running, to be true, but to also be true, I did not look you up.
[11:50] <HappyFool> PPC_Guy: (if you didn't get a response) fluxbox is available via apt
[11:50] <jf6> so no one knows?
[11:50] <PPC_Guy> just tried apt-get install fluxbox and got E: invalid
[11:50] <doive> there is no package cups in hoary
[11:51] <PPC_Guy> never mind.. getting flux now
[11:51] <nickrud_> The log is running because I wanted to make sure I didn't make a fool of myself, I've never turned it off
[11:51] <PPC_Guy> was just a guess doive.. Still pretty new to linux
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> doive: there are many cups packages.  Do a search
[11:51] <PPC_Guy> Now if I want to use flux, do I just log out of this session and select it? or is there more too it then that?
[11:52] <spanglesontoast> hehe
[11:52] <doive> tiglionabbit i installed from the dvd everything with cups in the *** name
[11:52] <PPC_Guy> have 0.9.11-1 installed now
[11:52] <HappyFool> PPC_Guy: i think so -- you probably will have a different 'session' option
[11:52] <spanglesontoast> but you don't look like a admin
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> PPC_Guy: it will probably not have any of your programs in its menu.  You must run a menu-generator for it
[11:52] <HappyFool> extra option, even
[11:52] <nickrud_> some nicks stick in the brain
[11:52] <doive> think i'll go back to debian
[11:52] <PPC_Guy> and how do I go about that tig? Point me where to read
[11:53] <DAWKIRST> Greetings.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> PPC_Guy: you can try running it right now, using applications -> system tools -> new login.  Use control-alt-F7 or F8 to switch between the two
[11:53] <DAWKIRST> Anyone knows an ap capable of streaming music over the net?
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> PPC_Guy: uh, ask at #fluxbox
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: streamtuner
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: many of your media players are capable of streaming, they just need to be treated right.  Streamtuner just browses web radio stations and feeds them to your media player
[11:54] <IceDC571> does evolution not support SSL? hmm..
[11:54] <VincentMX> Treenaks has opped himself on #ubuntu-nl. he's not supposed to do that
[11:54] <spanglesontoast> ahah
[11:55] <doive> anyone have a spare debian dvd?
[11:55] <LasseL> znh, how do I tell VLC to use alsa -- I get no sound and some oss audio error when I start vlc
[11:55] <PPC_Guy> yup, that boomed
[11:55] <PPC_Guy> bombed
[11:55] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, I see. I can't install Streamtuner anyway -- it wants a dependency which isnb't supported by my current repositories
[11:56] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you getting anywhere?
[11:56] <Magius> Hi, how does Ubuntu 5.04 do on laptops?
[11:56] <spanglesontoast> ok I'll brb
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[11:56] <ubotu> methinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> !info streamtuner
[11:56] <ubotu> streamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-3ubuntu0 (hoary), Packaged size: 865 kB, Installed size: 2696 kB
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: enable the universe repository, and disable any unnofficial repositories, and it should install
[11:57] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, kk, ty.
[11:58] <doive> LasseL set it in the gnome preferences
[11:58] <Ninwa> Does anybody know why Gnome every couple of hours or so randomly logouts?
[11:58] <Ninwa> Is there a hotkey I may accidentally be pressing?
[11:59] <Ninwa> Although the last time I wasn't even touching the keyboard.
[11:59] <doive> ninwa that would be ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> thats so better
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> Ninwa: control-alt-backspace will do it, and so might bumping the power button
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> a nice green cursor
[11:59] <nickrud_> lol
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> :D
[11:59] <doive> or you have a dicky power supply
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: how'd you switch it?
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> and I love your name, btw
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> the cursor?
[11:59] <doive> Ninwa are you kicking your computer case?
[11:59] <Ninwa> doive, It's a laptop.
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> ty
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[11:59] <spanglesontoast> download gcursor
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> !gcursor
[12:00] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[12:00] <ssgt2002> power supplu is most likely
[12:00] <qt2> >_<;
[12:00] <qt2> someone kill me.
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> !info gcursor
[12:00] <ubotu> gcursor: (gnome cursor theme managing software), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.061-ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 152 kB
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> qt2: what?
[12:00] <qt2> icecast.
[12:00] <spanglesontoast> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons is where you need to dump cursor themes
[12:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: hrm. maybe this will be of use: http://www.pollock-nageoire.net/efm/
[12:00] <Magius> Anyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?
[12:00] <tiglionabbit>  /msg nickserv ghost qt2
[12:00] <qt2> i give up on trying to figure it out.
[12:00] <spanglesontoast> from www.gnome-look.org
[12:00] <wza> need some help installing a usrobotics gigabit nic
[12:00] <spanglesontoast> :P
[12:00] <nickrud_> oh, that was so evil a while ago
[12:00] <qt2> tiglionabbit, eh?
[12:01] <spanglesontoast> qt2 are you trying to run a shoutcast server?
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> qt2: that's the command you'd use to "kill yourself" on irc
[12:01] <DanielC> Hello. X is not working on Hoary. How can I configure it from a tty?
[12:01] <qt2> tiglionabbit, i wasnt trying to do that... ;)
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> qt2: type your nick's password after it
[12:01] <exhu> where are start-up scripts? where are services to start on log-in are enumerated?
[12:01] <qt2> spanglesontoast, heh, yeah.
[12:01] <HappyFool> exhu: /etc/init.d, and /etc/rc?.d
[12:01] <qt2> spanglesontoast, and also stream using it.
[12:01] <spanglesontoast> grr I really should have bothered to look at that
[12:02] <spanglesontoast> I used it on windoze but never linux
[12:02] <nickrud_> exhu rc2.d is the normal startup, as well as rcS.d
[12:02] <HappyFool> exhu: you may find the utilites 'update-rc.d' and 'invoke-rc.d' useful in connection with these
[12:02] <qt2> spanglesontoast, its cake on windows. ;)
[12:02] <exhu> HappyFool, thanks
[12:02] <wza> ne1 experience with getting a 1000Mbps nic to work on ubuntu?
[12:02] <spanglesontoast> do you have to compile it?
[12:02] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, multiverse and universe...does this mean they are not officially supported?
[12:02] <doive> ok i can't see my printer in /proc/bus/usb/devices is that a clue?
[12:02] <qt2> spanglesontoast, nah, i grabbed it from synaptic.
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: I wouldn't worry, they're pretty well supported.  Not official, but wont break anything
[12:03] <spanglesontoast> do you have glibc installed?
[12:03] <IceDC571> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[12:03] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10638 kB, Installed size: 31136 kB
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: you shouldn't really worry until you start getting stuff from backports.  That's when support is kind of iffy
[12:03] <HappyFool> doive: probably. maybe try 'tail -f /dev/log/dmesg' and plug your printer out and in, and see if anything happens
[12:04] <HappyFool> doive: oops
[12:04] <exhu> HappyFool, so all executable files in /etc/init.d are launched automatically?
[12:04] <HappyFool> /var/log/demsg
[12:04] <HappyFool> exhu: no
[12:04] <HappyFool> exhu: see what nickrud_ said
[12:04] <spanglesontoast> does a samba mount mean those files are on my machine?
[12:04] <HappyFool> exhu: different run levels start/stop services when they are entered; this is controlled by symbolic links to /etc/init.d files in the /etc/rc?.d directories
[12:04] <doive> happyfool i can see it now in dmesg
[12:04] <topyli> spanglesontoast: no
[12:05] <spanglesontoast> is it poss to make my machine into a ftp server and host those files?
[12:05] <Angel777> Hello
[12:05] <spanglesontoast> as long as that machine is on?
[12:05] <HappyFool> doive: and lsusb (though i think that may be the same as /proc/... err, whatever you said earlier)
[12:05] <ram_einstein> hi all
[12:05] <exhu> HappyFool, what does rcS.d stand for?
[12:05] <ram_einstein> can Evolution sync with a PDA phone?
[12:05] <doive> happyfool that does it
[12:05] <topyli> spanglesontoast: not sure, haven't tried. i doubt it though
[12:06] <HappyFool> exhu: err. not sure ;). read 'man init'
[12:06] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, how would I know if it's from backports?
[12:06] <ram_einstein> or maybe Thunderbird?
[12:06] <doive> so why's it not in /proc/bus/usb/devices? hmmm
[12:07] <nickrud_> exhu rcS basically means 'startup'
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: if it's in backports, ubotu wont know it exists when you say !info thepackagename.  You'll only be getting backports packages if you have a backports mirror in your sources.list
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:07] <ram_einstein> Most people use MS Outlook to sync with their PDA phones...
[12:07] <ubotu> [backports]  at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:07] <doive> should i be able to cat a file to /dev/usb/lp0 ?
[12:08] <nickrud_> then, rc2 is the runlevel (services, etc) you want running
[12:08] <HappyFool> doive: not a clue
[12:08] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, how can I see what mirrors is in my sources.list -- I remembered that I added some mirrors a while back...can't remebere anymore tho.
[12:08] <doive> happyfool i would have bought a parallel port one if they still made em
[12:08] <nickrud_> in practice, it's pretty vague
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:08] <ubotu> methinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:08] <HappyFool> doive: what printer do you have?
[12:09] <topyli> ram_einstein: depends on the phone. you can see if multisync, gammu or gnokii support it
[12:09] <doive> wasn't usb meant to simplify things?
[12:09] <qt2> okay...
[12:09] <rob^> is there a guide somewhere to installing IE on ubuntu>
[12:09] <topyli> ram_einstein: i haven't had much luck
[12:09] <doive> happyfool it's a brother HL-1430
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> DAWKIRST: you should be able to just look at the file /etc/aut/sources.list
[12:09] <qt2> is there a reason that i wouldnt be able to copy. say, mp3's as root into my home dir and be able to play them?
[12:09] <doive> i used to be able to print to it with "lpr -P HL-1430"
[12:09] <benedikt> where can i get free drivers for canon 865i ?
[12:10] <spanglesontoast> i wish I could edit the menu that comes with ubuntu their actual custom menu rather than the annoying normal gnome one
[12:10] <Magius> Anyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?
[12:10] <qt2> because i did that, and they wont play, unless i open xmms inside a root console.
[12:10] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, I have no /etc/aut
[12:10] <nickrud_> doive you having problems setting up your printer?
[12:10] <ram_einstein> I see topyli
[12:10] <ram_einstein> which phone?
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> qt2: you shouldn't have to copy things into your home dir as root, and you shouldn't have to be root to play mp3s.  You can get mp3 support by grabbing gstreamer0.8-mad from Universe
[12:11] <doive> nickrud_ it's all set up but won't print since upgrading to hoary
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> !gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:11] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[12:11] <ram_einstein> I want to use a Nokia or Erricson
[12:11] <topyli> ram_einstein: the old 9210 nokia communicator
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:11] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[12:11] <lpih> With what am i supposed to unrar RAR 3.0 packages?
[12:11] <lpih> unrar cannot do it
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> !info unrar-nonfree
[12:11] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[12:11] <nickrud_> doive may I suggest totally removing the printer, and using the standard cups setup
[12:11] <spanglesontoast> !is tig smoking crack?
[12:11] <ubotu> I don't know, spanglesontoast
[12:11] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[12:12] <topyli> ram_einstein: i can mount the phone's file system with p3nfs, but i haven't had luck with the calendar or contacts syncing
[12:12] <DAWKIRST> tiglionabbit, nm, found it in /etc/apt
[12:12] <doive> nickrud_ i'm willing to try anything but can you explain that?
[12:12] <ram_einstein> what about gnome plot?
[12:12] <ram_einstein> *pilot?
[12:13] <lpih> Heh
[12:13] <lpih> Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:13] <lpih> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:13] <lpih> is only available from another source
[12:13] <FoamY_is_ZZZzzzz> http://www.linux-mag.com/newbies/
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:13] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:13] <doive> nickrud_ what do i remove? you mean in gnome-cups-manager?
[12:13] <HappyFool> doive: hmm. seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=2176
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> lpih: you will need to add the multiverse repository
[12:14] <nickrud_> sudo adduser cupsys shadow; invoke-rc.d cuspys restart <use your favorite browser to got to 127.0.0.1:631 and edit the printer> sudo deluser cupsys shadow ; invoke-rd.d cupsys restart
[12:14] <nickrud_> doive no, just bypass gnome-cups-manager
[12:14] <HappyFool> doive: seems the poster had problems, but it worked from openoffice
[12:15] <topyli> ram_einstein: that's not good for symbian phones like mine
[12:15] <nickrud_> maybe the next interation will work better
[12:15] <doive> nickrud_ & happyfool that looks ugly but thanks
[12:16] <nickrud_> it's ugly, but
[12:16] <ram_einstein> here's one with a kyocera: http://planet-geek.com/archives/000770.html
[12:16] <ram_einstein> check it out topyli
[12:16] <spanglesontoast> EDD HAPPY AMIGA
[12:16] <spanglesontoast> oops
[12:17] <spanglesontoast> I'm called eddlandos too :P
[12:17] <doive> tried printing from openoffice but how can it work with no printer selected anyway?
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> doive: add a printer then =P
[12:18] <Eddlandos> hehe
[12:18] <nickrud_> doive unless you have a printer defined, open office won't use it
[12:18] <topyli> ram_einstein: dunno, that has a different operating system i guess
[12:18] <spanglesontoast> woohoo
[12:18] <nickrud_> logs
[12:18] <nickrud_> :)
[12:18] <spanglesontoast> :D
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu what's up
[12:18] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Wish i knew
[12:18] <spanglesontoast> i forgot I registered that
[12:19] <tiglionabbit> ubotu up is the direction opposite the most prominent center of gravity at this particular time.
[12:19] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[12:19] <tiglionabbit> ubotu, what's up?
[12:19] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?
[12:19] <tiglionabbit> grr, stupid bot
[12:19] <dev> can some one look under link to apllication for home icon and see what the command is for me pleassse?
[12:20] <nickrud_> dev, I'm not sure what you're asking for
[12:21] <doive> ok i added a printer again. it says "paused"
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> doive: okay, but did you add the correct model of printer?
[12:21] <doive> tiglionabbit sure i did it detected it perfectly
[12:22] <doive> i can't restart the job
[12:22] <doive> it says "pending:printer-stopped"
[12:22] <nickrud_> if I had a nickel for every time that this box misidentified my printer, I could by a coke
[12:22] <ram_einstein> can someone quickly get me started with apt? how do I search for packages?
[12:23] <nickrud_> ram_einstein apt-cache search
[12:23] <doive> nickrud_ well that doesn't seem to be my problem. this is strictly an ubuntu problem i'm sure
[12:23] <ram_einstein> ah thanks nickrud_
[12:23] <nickrud_> ram_einstein another is apt-cache show <package>
[12:23] <dev> nickrud_  should be something like 'kfmclient openURL $HOME for the comand for home so i can make my own icon for my desktop
[12:23] <doive> the really annoying thing is they have disabled the web interface to cups
[12:24] <nickrud_> dev oooh, it starts with a k it must be kde :)
[12:24] <dev> yup
[12:24] <nickrud_> and, I don't know kde at _all_
[12:24] <dev> ahh ok =(
[12:24] <doive> just in case some evil spammer uses my printer for free! lol
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> I wonder what desktop environment they use at KFC ?
[12:25] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: you're making me hungry
[12:25] <nickrud_> doive if you scroll back, I've told you how to enable the web interface
[12:26] <spanglesontoast> would anyone know where I can get some amiga icons for my gnome desktop gnomelook doesn't have any :(
[12:26] <nickrud_> roger ellison
[12:27] <nickrud_> catch him in seattle
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: one time I took some KFC Extra Crispy fried chicken, and I squeeezed it and squeezed it, and you couldn't imagine the volume of grease that came out of that thing
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> and that was Extra Crispy
[12:27] <spanglesontoast> huh
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> or um, Krispy, if it's a KDE thing
[12:27] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit that was not grease, that was nectar :)
[12:27] <rob^> tiglionabbit, that suprises you?
[12:27] <Magius> Anyone know how well ubuntu performs on a Toshiba Satelite?
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> nickrud_: rofl
[12:28] <IceDC571> KDE, KFC, same difference.. they use the Kitchen Desktop Evironment
[12:28] <rob^> Magius, I know knoppix does, so ubuntu may
[12:28] <ram_einstein> um.. does apt-cache search list installed or availible or both?
[12:28] <doive> nickrud_ so you did sorry
[12:28] <nickrud_> doive np, it's all context
[12:28] <IceDC571> Magius: yes, it performs very very well.. everything works out of the box, wireless works
[12:28] <doive> nickrud_ however: $  invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[12:28] <doive>  * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[12:28] <doive> cupsd: Child exited with status 13!
[12:28] <doive> invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "restart" failed.
[12:29] <PPC_Guy> anyone here have any luck with a linksys b/g wireless card?
[12:29] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: both, afaik
[12:29] <Magius> rob^: I currently have FC2 on it.....but I have been testing ubuntu and like the setup
[12:29] <nickrud_> doive every time you change a users groups, you must restart the user for the groups to be registered. A unix feature
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> wow, hey, KFC: Kde on Fedora Core
[12:29] <rob^> Magius, give it a shot
[12:29] <Magius> IceDC571: Does the touch pad work
[12:29] <IceDC571> Magius: yep
[12:29] <ram_einstein> how do I list just installed packages then?
[12:30] <Magius> Rock!  It didn't on FC2
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> if FC didn't use KDE by default already, that could be a funny parody
[12:30] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: you can use synaptic for that
[12:30] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: i think this works too:
[12:30] <ram_einstein> how do I start gnome-pilot? I think it's installed
[12:30] <doive> nickrud_ ok so why did it fail?
[12:30] <HappyFool> dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[12:30] <ram_einstein> wow! forget it
[12:30] <ram_einstein> I'l use synaptic
[12:30] <nickrud_> doive depends on where it fails
[12:30] <ben> PPC_Guy - yes I have
[12:30] <HappyFool> heh
[12:30] <jf6> War of worlds
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> ram_einstein: system -> preferences -> Palm Setup
[12:30] <jf6> HAHA
[12:30] <cledusddp> ben: How did you get it up and running?
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> I mean PalmOS Devices
[12:31] <znh> Bang Bang.. I shot you down
[12:31] <nickrud_> doive you mean, invoke-rc.d cupsys restart fails ?
[12:31] <dev> dev im getting this everytime i try to aptget something
[12:31] <dev> dev Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main gaim 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 [845kB] 
[12:31] <dev> dev Fetched 3617kB in 42s (86.0kB/s)
[12:31] <dev> dev Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:31] <dev> dev E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:31] <dev> dev spermie@Spermie:~$
[12:31] <ben> are you on gaim? might be less noisy than here
[12:31] <cledusddp> yeah, same name
[12:31] <ram_einstein> palm os devices
[12:31] <HappyFool> dev: please don't paste more than two lines here
[12:31] <dev> sowwie =(
[12:31] <nickrud_> dev the us repositories are bad, again
[12:32] <IceDC571> no one abbreviates gnome lol
[12:32] <HappyFool> dev: us.archive may (still?) be broken; change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <johnnybezak> whats a good gtk photo app
[12:32] <nickrud_> I've been told that uk is ok
[12:32] <znh> johnnybezak: The Gimp ?
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> I heard that uk is really slow
[12:32] <doive> "invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "restart" failed."
[12:32] <IceDC571> !info uk
[12:33] <znh> !whereis znh
[12:33] <ubotu> znh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:33] <IceDC571> uk??
[12:33] <johnnybezak> sorry photo catalog
[12:33] <znh> :] 
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: it's not a package, its a repository
[12:33] <johnnybezak> iphoto style
[12:33] <IceDC571> ohh
[12:33] <IceDC571> lol
[12:33] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: that would be because of all the us ppl using it, then ? ;)
[12:33] <cledusddp> ben, grab me on game.. Don't know to grab dcc on bitchx yet
[12:33] <ben> oh piss i cannot get it to work what is your email me
[12:33] <nickrud_> I'm parroting here; I'm on dialup, and all the security updates don't affect me, so I'm a bit behind.
[12:33] <cledusddp> gaim
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> man it would be cool if we could use picasa on linux.  Someone bug google about that
[12:33] <cledusddp> if I could type.. lol
[12:34] <IceDC571> ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning... fsck you!
[12:34] <ben> try me on benmoretti@yahoo.com.au
[12:34] <doive> nickrud_ i feel like i'm not using the same distro
[12:34] <spanglesontoast> !ubuntu
[12:34] <ubotu> well, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[12:34] <spanglesontoast> :D
[12:34] <nickrud_> doive what do you mean?
[12:34] <IceDC571> err.. spanglesontoast
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> cool, someone added to my !ubuntu
[12:35] <doive> nickrud_ well why would that command not work?
[12:35] <IceDC571> !kubuntu
[12:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu. Go to #kubuntu for Kubuntu support.
[12:35] <ram_einstein> I have a Nokia 6100 with a usb connector. How do I connect it and what is the purpose?
[12:35] <IceDC571> !whorey
[12:35] <nickrud_> doive well, probably because I forget to mention that it should be preceeded by sudo
[12:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, IceDC571
[12:35] <spanglesontoast> he wanted to know what ubuntu mean't as a word
[12:35] <spanglesontoast> !hoary
[12:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, spanglesontoast
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> !hoary
[12:36] <IceDC571> lol
[12:36] <spanglesontoast> ?
[12:36] <spanglesontoast> odd
[12:36] <ram_einstein> !ubuntu
[12:36] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.
[12:36] <HappyFool> can't you guys play with the bot in /msg ?
[12:36] <doive> nickrud_ oh crap i should have known that
[12:36] <cledusddp> brb
[12:36] <nickrud_> hey, I gave a recipe, the recipe sucked :)
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> ubotu hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[12:36] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:36] <nmoore> does anyone know why the tmpfs at /dev/shm is provided? does it have an internal use?
[12:37] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: is that what hoary really means?
[12:37] <monteiro> when i execute programs my mouse stops a little, and i've a lot of free ram memory :( i dont understand, anyone knows any bug about it ?
[12:37] <nickrud_> hoary also implies dignity
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: yes.  Look it up in the dictionary
[12:37] <doive> nickrud_ ok it worked now what do i put in at http://127.0.0.1:631/ when it asks for a damn username and password?
[12:37] <doive> cupsys?
[12:37] <IceDC571> wow it now takes me ages to start up firefox
[12:38] <nickrud_> doive now, you must have a root password defined, like I said, a screwed up recipe. I assumed too much in it
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> it's interesting how there is no reason to use paper dictionaries anymore
[12:38] <IceDC571> adj. hoarier, hoariest
[12:38] <IceDC571>    1. Gray or white with or as if with age.
[12:38] <IceDC571>    2. Covered with grayish hair or pubescence: hoary leaves.
[12:38] <IceDC571>    3. So old as to inspire veneration; ancient.
[12:38] <IceDC571> i like number 2
[12:38] <nmoore> tiglionabbit: you may not be using a computer
[12:38] <doive> nickrud_ well according to ubuntu's easy to use ideas there is no root passwd
[12:39] <nickrud_> I can write for the ubuntuguide!
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> nmoore: yeah right, like that would happen.  *carries his Kamek around with him everywhere*
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> nmoore: you what?
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> oops, nickrud_
[12:39] <nickrud_> bad?
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean by that?
[12:40] <doive> i can't believe i have to be root to get a printer working!!
[12:40] <IceDC571> i heard a rumor that the graveyard repositories are hosted at an actual grave yard...
[12:40] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit I was mocking myelf
[12:40] <dev> is this right. sudo apt-get instal mozilla fire-fox?
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> we were working on a more explanatory guide to ubuntu, starting with this big summarizing page I wrote
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[12:40] <ubotu> I heard newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[12:40] <IceDC571> dev: try sudo aptitude install firefox
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> dev: it's mozilla-firefox
[12:40] <IceDC571> oh lol
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> !info mozilla-firefox
[12:41] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[12:41] <IceDC571> !info firefox
[12:41] <nickrud_> doive sudo passwd root
[12:41] <nickrud_> create a root password
[12:41] <IceDC571> aww..
[12:41] <nickrud_> then, you can use :631
[12:41] <dev> tiglionabbit thanks i knew there was a ' - ' in there somw where =)
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> wait, how is a root password different from "sudo -s" ?
[12:42] <anacron> if there's binary and source files from some program, which one should i take?
[12:43] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: it's different if you accessing via a web-browser ;)
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> anacron: binary I believe...  unless apt has a method of compiling for you
[12:43] <nickrud_> a root password allows you you access a web admin interface, for starters
[12:43] <dev> whats that one program called x gears or something like that
[12:43] <IceDC571> glxgears
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> !amiga
[12:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, spanglesontoast
[12:43] <dev> thank ya
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> dev: glxgears ?
[12:43] <dev> yup
[12:43] <anacron> tiglionabbit: well i wouldn't be downloading eitherone if apt would find something :)
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> anacron: what's the program?
[12:44] <doive> nickrud_ now i have a root account and the web interface says this: ""Unable to open USB device "usb://Brother/HL-1430%20series": No such device"Device URI: usb://Brother/HL-1430%20series"
[12:44] <doive> nickrud_ your turn to scroll up
[12:45] <topyli> anacron: if you can find a binary for your system, get that. otherwise, get the source and build a binary
[12:45] <nickrud_> doive lol, so, where am I looking :)
[12:45] <doive> nickrud_ ok so i used the web interface to delete the printer and add another
[12:46] <doive> and i printed a test page
[12:46] <doive> (tried to)
[12:46] <doive> and in "jobs" it says "aborted"
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> rofl Iced
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> Someone whos good at the gimp could ya cut me out this icon http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/19814-1.jpg
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> which?
[12:47] <doive> clicking "restart job" gives "Error:    client-error-not-possible"
[12:47] <doive> who coded that?
[12:47] <doive> real informative
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> the amiga one
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> red and white
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> red ball
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: wouldn't it be easier for you to find the original png on the web?
[12:47] <nickrud_> doive I hate to admit it, but, I had to remove all printer defs, shut off my brother 5140, shutdown my computer, and restart from scratch to get cupsys to recognize the 5140. I'm not a guru
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> I've looked
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: it's got alpha transparency.  Getting anything good out of it will be hard
[12:48] <spanglesontoast> well i'm guessing it's the only way
[12:48] <doive> ok nickrud_ i'll try that. puters just hate humans don't they? i think ubuntu might be aiming a bit high with their motto there
[12:48] <nickrud_> I did that, and the cups 631 interface found the brother 5140 on the parallel port, and all was good
[12:49] <stacker> hola wenas
[12:49] <spanglesontoast> http://www.frey-united.com/aagg/gf/amiga-ball.jpg
[12:49] <doive> nickrud_ wanna swap printers? apart from the bulky cables i don't see any improvement with usb
[12:49] <nickrud_> Heh, I've read some of the posts of the 'canonical' ubuntuites, and, I've bought in :)
[12:49] <doive> thanks for your help nickrud_ it's bedtime here
[12:49] <stacker> anyone speaks spanish?
[12:50] <spanglesontoast> #ubuntu-es
[12:50] <doive> see you
[12:50] <nickrud_> doive no way :)
[12:51] <spanglesontoast> go there stacker #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <stacker> thanks
[12:52] <doive> nickrud_ that's right we idiots are using ubuntu in new zealand! and they even sent me a stack of cds all this way from france for free. what a sucker i was...
[12:52] <spanglesontoast> tig you get anywhere?
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> nope
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> wtf, why does that screenshot have an Internet Explorer icon on it?
[12:53] <nickrud_> the 9 extra warty's I got disappeard from the city library in 2 hours. I can live with that
[12:53] <xxlbug> hi i have one question about my soundcard, i have a mainboard with a nforce2 sound chip, but also i have a audigy 2zs and the output from the soundcard is disabled, have anybody a idea how to solve this problem?
[12:53] <spanglesontoast> yea lol
[12:54] <spanglesontoast> not mine
[12:54] <domster> NZ represent!
[12:54] <spanglesontoast> who the hell would want to use ie the only reason I can think is running java in a browser
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: what linked to that page?
[12:54] <domster> spanglesontoast: do you mean activex?
[12:55] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: uh, firefox can do java.
[12:55] <ben> cledusddp - you must have gone off somewhere so i'll leave this comment. if you are trying to get a linksys wifi card working under ubuntu, it uses a broadcom chipset, so you will need to use ndiswrapper to install the windows device driver as a kernel module
[12:55] <spanglesontoast> www.gnome-look.com
[12:55] <spanglesontoast> firefox does it sloppy
[12:55] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: I mean what linked directly to it...
[12:55] <ben> cledusddp - the best info for this is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper
[12:55] <spanglesontoast> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/search.php?PHPSESSID=10351be88e170d7e6d07a8eaff10e295
[12:55] <domster> hangon, spanglesontoast, isn't it the VM that does it sloppy then - not firefox itself
[12:56] <spanglesontoast> well it does it sloppy on here lol
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> hey what the http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=23274&file1=23274-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Ubuntu+XMMS+M0D  Why doesn't Ubuntu use this one?
[12:56] <spanglesontoast> you cannot close stuff sometimes
[12:56] <spanglesontoast> it's that bad
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: that link doesn't work for me, takes me to an empty search
[12:57] <spanglesontoast> how do I mount ntfs partition?
[12:57] <spanglesontoast> oh
[12:57] <spanglesontoast> odd
[12:57] <sinferno> in my beep media player plugins it says im using Ogg but i want to use alsa does this matter?
[12:57] <bigfoot1> how do i install a deb file?
[12:58] <spanglesontoast> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19814
[12:58] <cledusddp> I've update all repositories for dvd playback and still nothing in totem or xmms.. any ideas?
[12:58] <monteiro> it is possible to say that reiserfs is unstable to the point, that stops the mouse when executing programs ? (like thunderbird or mozilla)
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: ogg is a file format, alsa is a sound mixer, they're differet types of things
[12:58] <Bubbling_Zombie> bigfoot1, sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[12:58] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, ok, thanks
[12:58] <bigfoot1> Bubbling_Zombie, thanks
[12:58] <spanglesontoast> grrrrrr
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: you might mean OSS.  If it is OSS, then yes, you want to switch it to ALSA
[12:59] <spanglesontoast> gotta go and eat I'll be back in 30 mins
[12:59] <ben> ah cledusddp - scroll up for your answer on the wifi card
[12:59] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, yeah i went 4 tabs down and found it
[12:59] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, and changed it to alsa
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> gewd
[12:59] <sinferno> 3 tabs
[12:59] <sinferno> i dunno
[12:59] <Nameeater> what are the best repo's to have for apt? Im after mplayer but its saying it doesn't exist
[12:59] <cledusddp> got that thanx onto another issue now ben :)
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[12:59] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:59] <xinel> hrmms
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:59] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[01:00] <xinel> not much of a fan of enlightenment
[01:00] <xinel> weirdness
[01:00] <cledusddp> have mplayer as well.. still no dice
[01:00] <sinferno> is xorg the right place to put Option Render Accel and NvAGP i heard of people putting stuff like this in modules
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> Nameeater: those answer your question?
[01:00] <Nameeater> looking good :)
[01:00] <cledusddp> you can be it's not the best way around sinferno
[01:00] <bigfoot1> Bubbling_Zombie, how do i do a force?
[01:00] <nickrud_> I still think my sources were prettier
[01:00] <sinferno> cledusddp, well i have them in xorg
[01:01] <Bubbling_Zombie> why do you need to do that?
[01:01] <cledusddp> then no worries, if it works sinferno
[01:01] <sinferno> cledusddp, ok coolz
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> I need to instal subfont.ttf for gmplayer - what do I need to install for this?
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-fonts
[01:01] <ubotu> mplayer-fonts: (Fonts for mplayer), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 3.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1305 kB, Installed size: 7172 kB
[01:01] <bigfoot1> Bubbling_Zombie, coz the deb doesn't realize ubuntu's fancy way of naming version numbers.
[01:02] <anacron> has anyone installed stepmania to ubuntu?
[01:02] <bigfoot1> anacron, what's stepmania?
[01:02] <sinferno> are there any codecs for tome? or should i just get mplayer
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: you mean totem?
[01:02] <anacron> bigfoot1: dancing game
[01:02] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, yes lol
[01:02] <bigfoot1> sweet
[01:02] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, im stoned srry
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: because tome is an old text-based dungeon game
[01:02] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, i know lol i meant totem
[01:02] <anacron> bigfoot1: www.flashflashrevolution.com there's a flash version of it
[01:03] <nickrud_> time flies, good night
[01:03] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm, bigfoot1 try reading through dpkg --force-help
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: read this: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersGuideMultimedia
[01:03] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, thanks
[01:03] <Bubbling_Zombie> (don't have to force myself, and don't want to break your installation with wild guesses ^-^)
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: actually, I'll just explain it to you now
[01:03] <thiswilld> Has anyone got a few minutes to help a first time linux user with an installation problem? Am getting a blank screen after sucessfully setting up all components. Suspect that I cannot see screen because on first boot i changed the screen resolution from 800x600 to 1024x756??
[01:03] <anacron> but hey, anyone? how to make stepmania run?, it says something that liblua.so cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: there are two ways to make totem play stuff.  One of them is to install gstreamer0.8-plugins, and the other is to switch from totem-gstreamer to totem-xine
[01:04] <cledusddp> question then.. Codecs for totem just aren't working for me.. is it illegal to hack/slash/etc to make them work for me?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> cledusddp: illegal?  no way
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[01:04] <ubotu> hmm... newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[01:04] <anacron> thiswilld: press ctrl + alt + f1 and you can get console, and then change your display settings
[01:04] <cledusddp> sweet.. need to muck around then
[01:05] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, nice, thanks again
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: if you install the packages listed in my guide, in the proprietary formats setion, you should have support for most everything in all media players
[01:06] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, well i didnt install mplayer cause like alot of the packages were missing
[01:06] <thiswilld> anacron: won't give me a console :(
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: patch up your sources list
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[01:07] <Shorty`> does anyone remember the name of the quick launch applet that allows multiple rows?
[01:07] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[01:07] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:07] <anacron> thiswilld: so it's all black?
[01:07] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, ive done that, you talkin about universe multiverse right?
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: yes.  And disable any unofficial or backports ones for the moment
[01:07] <sinferno> only thing i didnt get was W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb
[01:07] <sinferno>   MD5Sum mismatch
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: delete the "us." in that url
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> and it should work fine
[01:08] <sinferno> ok cool
[01:08] <anacron> :D
[01:08] <sinferno> u r so smartzzzzzzzz
[01:08] <anacron> "let's delete u.s.a and all should work fine"
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: I've been hanging around here for weeks.  I've heard all the problems =P
[01:08] <sinferno> hehe
[01:09] <thiswilld> anacron: totally black
[01:09] <ben> cledusddp - do you have ubuntu running on a mac?
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> I still don't know how to help people with usb modems or usb hard disks though
[01:09] <PPC_Guy> ben: yes 2 G3/300s
[01:09] <anacron> thiswilld: what's really weird if you can't even access console, i don't know how you might be able to fix it
[01:10] <IceDC571> doesn't smeg sound like a drug?
[01:10] <thiswilld> might try a fresh installation
[01:10] <IceDC571> or like a disease
[01:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> more like a disease
[01:10] <ben> i've got an old imac that i'm thinking of converting, once i buy my wife a new ibook. any major issues with it?
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> smeg sounds like a spice to me
[01:10] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, ok wait i dont get how to get that package i did apt-get and that url without us but it doesnt like tha
[01:10] <anacron> aww i got smeg :(
[01:10] <Bubbling_Zombie> or something that you cough up :)
[01:10] <IceDC571> anacron: no more sex for you
[01:10] <Shorty`> anyone?
[01:10] <anacron> damn, i have to get rid of it
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: I mean change it in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:11] <Nameeater> smeg is a type of sandwich meat :|
[01:11] <PPC_Guy> ben: not at all painless install. Just make sure everything you want is plugged in at install
[01:11] <ben> there's an expensive kitchen applicance label called smeg - many laughs there i bet
[01:11] <PPC_Guy> red dwarf? been a longtime
[01:12] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, hmm should i get rid of us on all of them?
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: yes
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> http://www.smeguk.com/
[01:12] <Oly> hi, can some one tell me if there is a kernel for the k6-2 i am guessing the k7 will not work :p
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> Oly: why wont the x7 work?
[01:13] <Oly> also could some one tell me the commandline command for adding repositories to apt-get
[01:13] <Oly> well i guessed k7 is to new
[01:13] <Oly> the k6 is an older chip
[01:13] <Oly> or am i wrong ?
[01:13] <Oly> :p
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[01:13] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:14] <IceDC571> i remember my AMD 350Mhz K6 Processor with 3dNOW!
[01:14] <PPC_Guy> You are correct Oly
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> to edit your repositories list by the commandline, say "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> switch out nano with whatever editor you want
[01:14] <Oly> not quite what i mean
[01:14] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: please, out of everything why use nano as an example?
[01:14] <IceDC571> dude
[01:15] <schasi> What backend does synaptic use?
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: he said from the commandline, what if he doesn't have xserver?
[01:15] <Oly> i know there was a command you could type to add the repository stright into the source.list
[01:15] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, i changed it and its still going there
[01:15] <anacron> PPC_Guy: oh right, then why there's such a thing as "linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on AMD K7" when i do apt-cache search kernel
[01:15] <manaz_> Oly: apt-setup ?
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: refresh synaptic, or say sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, oh sorry i didnt see it was in the url @ the top of the file aswel
[01:16] <Oly> na thats not it :p
[01:16] <anacron> PPC_Guy: actually that doesn't prove anything but anyway :D
[01:16] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: i would try sudo openoffice.org-writer /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <IceDC571> its a lot better than your stupid nano!
[01:16] <Oly> thought there was something like apt-get deb sourceurl to add
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: oh my god, that is the worst suggestion ever
[01:16] <Bubbling_Zombie> i can do worse :')
[01:16] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit :) lol.. exactly
[01:17] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[01:17] <IceDC571> Bubbling_Zombie: lets see you top that
[01:17] <manaz> IceDC571: or you can reboot to windows, attach ext3 drive and edit it using m$word :)
[01:17] <Shorty`> sudo sensible-editor /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <Shorty`> *sits on the fence* :)
[01:17] <Shorty`> *cough* VIM *couhg*
[01:17] <Shorty`> sorry. :P
[01:18] <IceDC571> Shorty`: there's a sensible-editor command too?
[01:18] <IceDC571> Shorty`: VIM!! yay :) i love vim
[01:18] <Shorty`> *nod*
[01:18] <Shorty`> vim is sweet
[01:18] <Shorty`> I *used* to hate it
[01:18] <IceDC571> nano makes me puke
[01:18] <Shorty`> but I *love* it now
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: please don't tell newbies to do that.  They'll be like "Why does apt say "could not stat repository deb/rtf/null/*BOLD*/italichtml.font="Times New Roman"/"
[01:18] <Shorty`> bwhahah
[01:18] <Shorty`> ahahah
[01:18] <raven3x7> anybody has had problems with the nvidia drivers with tnt1 cards?
[01:18] <Shorty`> I never throught of that
[01:18] <raven3x7> hello btw
[01:19] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, it plays avi now but it doesnt display it
[01:19] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, but it actually plays them
[01:19] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: okay okay, i'll stop now :)
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: uh...?  how do you know it's playing if you can't see it?
[01:20] <manaz> sinferno: you cannot be as a root. or allow root to attach to the X
[01:20] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, i can hear it
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: funky...
[01:20] <ben> raven3x7 - what's the error/problem?
[01:20] <sinferno> manaz, whaa?
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: are you running gmplayer ?
[01:20] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, no tome
[01:20] <manaz> sinferno: don't run mplayer as a root user .
[01:20] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, lol tote
[01:20] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, im using totem
[01:20] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, its running mpg and mpeg fine
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: oh.  hmm...
[01:21] <nikkia> raven3x7: the latest drivers do not support anything older than the Geforce 4
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: is it totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[01:21] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, gstremer
[01:22] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, should i get xine too
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: you can't have both at the same time
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> it wont let you
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:22] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, oh ill switch to xine then
[01:22] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[01:22] <spanglesontoast> back
[01:23] <raven3x7> nikkia now thats a bit of a problem. is there any way i can get the nv drivers to center the image? because part of the screen is outside the monitor
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: I can't give you many details on totem, because uh, currently it just fscks up my other media players when I run it
[01:23] <ben> bye guys
[01:23] <nikkia> raven, ah, you're not using the latest drivers then :)
[01:23] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, should i not be using totem?
[01:23] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, does it blow ass or something
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: no no, go ahead, it's probably something stupid about my video card that's doing this
[01:23] <rob^> charming
[01:23] <Shorty`> I love having pets
[01:23] <Shorty`> if you fuck up your cooking you give it to them
[01:23] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, oh 8(
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> I mean my stupid graphics chipset
[01:24] <nikkia> raven3x7: nvidia-settings allows you to adjust the centering, i don't know if it'll work on the TNT tho
[01:24] <Shorty`> totem wont work on my pc
[01:24] <Shorty`> fglrx issue apparently
[01:24] <raven3x7> nikkia im using the open source ones right noow... the ones on the ubuntu repository dont work with my card
[01:24] <spanglesontoast> god is there anything simpler than the gimp?
[01:24] <nikkia> actually, sorry, no it doesn't :/
[01:24] <nikkia> raven3x7: try the binary ones on nvidia's site, they have a link to the latest driver for 'old' cards
[01:25] <qt2> is there a reason that i wouldnt be able to copy. say, mp3's as root into my home dir and be able to play them?
[01:25] <sinferno> awww thats so lame when i take a screenshot totem goes blue
[01:25] <qt2> because i did that, and they wont play, unless i open xmms inside a root console.
[01:25] <sinferno> i cant show off
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: but if you want something to play .avis, try VLC.  totem-gstreamer and mplayer should be able to do it too
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: there's a screenshot feature inside totem
[01:25] <spanglesontoast> how do I make an icon in the gimp
[01:25] <raven3x7> nikkiaoh ok will do that then. i should buy a graphics card anyway though. thanks
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: take a screenshot of totem's interface, and then paste totem's internal screenshot in the blue spot =P
[01:25] <nikkia> gah, they took the link off, but... http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html   that's the last driver that supports the TNT
[01:26] <wza> after 'make menuconfig' to add nic support, is there something else i should do in order for the nic hardware to be recognised?
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: by drawing it.  Same way as in inkscape, but in inkscape you can make it an awesome SVG file instead
[01:27] <spanglesontoast> !inkscape
[01:27] <ubotu> No idea, spanglesontoast
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> qt2: you shouldn't have to do that, seriously.  Get beep-media-player and try it as a normal user.  If you need mp3 stuffs, get gtreamer0.8-mad
[01:27] <nikkia> raven3x7: to be honest, i find the fact that they've dumped support for the older cards disgusting, nvidia always used to be a company that you could trust to keep supporting their old cards (there is only one nvidia card that wasn't supported prior to this latest driver update, and it was so radically different it wasn't fair to expect support anyway)
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> !info inkscape
[01:27] <ubotu> inkscape: (Vector based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.40-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3807 kB, Installed size: 14628 kB
[01:28] <Shorty`> anyone know if theres a 64bit version of flash player yet?
[01:28] <sinferno> i used to have a voodoo 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:28] <egi> can i use inkscape to draw diagrams (a la visio)? or should i use dia instead
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> Shorty`: there isn't sorry.  A friend of mine is working on it
[01:28] <raven3x7> nikkia many thanks
[01:28] <egi> any other package best replacing visio?
[01:28] <qt2> tiglionabbit, err, i've tried it with several medial players, unless i open them via a root terminal, they wont open.
[01:28] <nikkia> egi,. kivio ?
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> egi: well, inkscape is a generalized drawing program, while dia is very guided with tools for making diagrams
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> qt2: =\  what do they say to you?
[01:29] <Shorty`> tiglionabbit, what about w32codecs, I'd heard there'd been some development there?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> Shorty`: don't know, sorry
[01:30] <egi> thx all...
[01:30] <tiglionabbit> your best bet would be to get all the gstreamer plugins you can, and hope there's a 64 bit realplayer or something...
[01:30] <raven3x7> nikkia : i think the tnt cards are getting rather not so usefull. but i dont think dropping geforce 3 cards was that smart a decision. they are not that old after all
[01:30] <nikkia> raven, i think the reasoning is that they wanted to support OpenGL 2.0 but couldn't on the older cards, still, its a bit harsh
[01:31] <bimberi> qt2: are the files still owned by root?  if so "sudo chown *.mp3"
[01:31] <egi> !info kivio
[01:31] <ubotu> kivio: (a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:1.3.5-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1784 kB
[01:32] <bimberi> qt2: correction: "sudo chown <youruser> *.mp3"
[01:32] <qt2> tiglionabbit, not a word, they just.. dont play.
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> qt2: are they in your home directory?
[01:32] <egi> hmm.. it seems kde won't let me install kivio by itself.
[01:32] <Ninwa> Is there a Linux command that I can use to restart services (e.g apache)
[01:32] <qt2> tiglionabbit, aye.
[01:32] <egi> i think i better stick to dia
[01:32] <mameluke> Ninwa, yes
[01:32] <egi> :(
[01:32] <nikkia> egi, if you use visio for UML, i'd suggest umbrello as a replacement too
[01:32] <Ninwa> mameluke, Ok, thank you.
[01:32] <egi> !info umbrello
[01:32] <raven3x7> nikkia , its actually something you wouldn't expect of nvidia. lets hope they dont make a habbit of it
[01:32] <ubotu> umbrello: (UML modelling tool and code generator), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1757 kB, Installed size: 4856 kB
[01:32] <mameluke> Ninwa, don't u want to know the command? ;)
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> qt2: it's probably a sound thing.  If you want, you can follow this long convoluted sound setup thread, but I'm not guaranteeing it will work for you
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[01:33] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:33] <Ninwa> mameluke, Not if you wern't going to give it without making me fine tune my question, at least I know it exists now eh? :)
[01:33] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, thanks vlc is really nice!
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: sure is
[01:33] <Ninwa> mameluke, Okay yeah, what is it. :)
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> !info vlc
[01:33] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[01:33] <Ninwa> If you wouldn't mind.
[01:34] <mameluke> Ninwa, there are 2 ways i know.. i'll tell you both
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> if it's for all formats, why doesn't it do quicktime and real?
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> when I play quicktime in it, it crashes
[01:34] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, mpg,mpeg,avi,asf work but wmv doesnt :\
[01:34] <mameluke> Ninwa, both only work with sudo (ore as root)
[01:34] <qt2> bimberi, hm, how do i chown entire dorectory structures recursively? :P
[01:34] <Ninwa> I was looking at some sort of paramater for apache itself, like apache restart, but no luck.
[01:35] <qt2> *directory
[01:35] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, it does but i can only hear it
[01:35] <Ninwa> mameluke, That's expected, you're dealing with system services.
[01:35] <cyphase> come someone give me the mod_rewrite directive to turn http://host/folder/12345 into http://host/folder/?=12345
[01:35] <mameluke> Ninwa, 1) maybe you have a command calld apachctl or apache2ctl?
[01:35] <HappyFool> cyphase: try maybe #apache ?
[01:35] <cgray> Ninwa: "sudo /etc/init.d/foo restart" in general
[01:35] <Ninwa> mameluke, Yes.
[01:35] <mameluke> Ninwa, e.g. apache2ctl restet <--- done ;)
[01:35] <mameluke> restart
[01:35] <mameluke> sry
[01:35] <Ninwa> Oh, okay.
[01:36] <qt2> tiglionabbit, heh, it's a chown problem o.o;
[01:36] <bimberi> qt2 "chown -R <user> <directory>"
[01:36] <cyphase> HappyFool, i did
[01:36] <cyphase> :)
[01:36] <mameluke> Ninwa, and the cgray was even faster then me >_<
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> qt2: glad you've solved it then
[01:36] <qt2> tiglionabbit, ;)
[01:36] <qt2> bimberi, thanks. :)
[01:36] <Ninwa> mameluke, cgray, appreciate it.
[01:36] <mameluke> Ninwa,  /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:36] <mameluke> :P
[01:37] <DJ_Mirage> cyphase: RewriteRule ^http://host/folder/(.*)$ /index.php?p=$1 [nc] 
[01:37] <Ninwa> mameluke, It doesn't seem to work, oddly.
[01:37] <cyphase> thanx DJ_Mirage
[01:37] <spanglesontoast> is alpha how big it will be?
[01:37] <Ninwa> joey@ubuntu-t20laptop:/etc/init.d$ sudo apache2 restart
[01:37] <mameluke> Ninwa, witch command?
[01:37] <Ninwa> Returns the syntax help for apache2
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: alpha generally refers to the opacity of something
[01:37] <Ninwa> apache2ctl worked fine
[01:37] <mameluke> but?
[01:37] <bimberi> qt2: np.  Actually for completeness you should probably change the group as well "chown -R <user>:<group> <dir>"
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: low alpha means you can see through it, it'll be translucent
[01:38] <spanglesontoast> hmm how do I resize it to the normal size of my desktop icons
[01:38] <mameluke> Ninwa,  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart <- don't forget the 2 ;)
[01:38] <qt2> bimberi, would if i knew the group :P
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: in what?
[01:38] <Ninwa> No right, I'm not. apache2 restart, strangely, isn't valid.
[01:38] <spanglesontoast> well gnome
[01:38] <spanglesontoast> I want it to be the same size as the other icons
[01:38] <Ninwa> It's non-issue, apache2ctl worked, but just weird.
[01:38] <HappyFool> Ninwa: try 'which apache2' -- probably /usr/bin/apache2 , different to /etc/init.d/apache2
[01:39] <Ninwa> HappyFool, That one neither.
[01:39] <Ninwa> joey@ubuntu-t20laptop:/usr/bin$ apache2 restart
[01:39] <Ninwa> Usage: apache2 [-D name]  [-d directory]  [-f file] 
[01:39] <bimberi> qt2: probably the same as your user - you can see which groups a user is in by typing "groups" (as a command).
[01:39] <HappyFool> Ninwa: no
[01:39] <linuxboy> My firefox dies everytime I view a page with flash, but only as one user... why?
[01:39] <mameluke> Ninwa, try with TAB, to find out how it's calles
[01:39] <HappyFool> Ninwa: 'apache2' without a path specification is probably /usr/bin/apache2, or mayb sbin/apache2
[01:39] <mameluke> called
[01:39] <tiglionabbit> linuxboy: because Macromedia is evil, and hates you
[01:40] <HappyFool> Ninwa: that is not the same thing as the service startup script in /etc/init.d/apache2
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> (or whatever user it is that it screws up for)
[01:40] <linuxboy> tiglionabbit: you're helpful...
[01:40] <qt2> bimberi, ah, yes, thank you very much :D
[01:40] <Ninwa> HappyFool, When I have apache2 and I use tab-completion it just tells me about apache2-ssl-certificate and apache2ctl, it doesn't specify the path.
[01:41] <HappyFool> Ninwa: indeed. tab completion will not tell you the path
[01:41] <bimberi> qt2: yw :)
[01:41] <HappyFool> Ninwa: 'which' does that
[01:41] <Ninwa> Oh! Sorry, I read which literally.
[01:41] <djp> linuxboy: have you installed the gplflash plugin for firefox?
[01:41] <Ninwa> I appologize.
[01:41] <Ninwa> /usr/sbin
[01:41] <HappyFool> Ninwa: fair enough ;)
[01:41] <linuxboy> djp: no...
[01:42] <linuxboy> djp: is there an ubuntu package for it?
[01:42] <djp> linuxboy: it doesn't support anything above version 4 of flash though (i think it is version 4)
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> linuxboy: I actually am quite helpful.  I wrote this guide: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers .  but uh, I don't really know what to do about flash crashes
[01:42] <linuxboy> djp: why only one user?
[01:42] <Ninwa> Well its interesting, thanks again, I accomplished what I needed, and hey, learned about which! :o)
[01:43] <djp> linuxboy: yes, libflash-mozplugin
[01:43] <linuxboy> djp: thats glpflash?
[01:44] <cgray> how would I downgrade all packages from breezy to hoary?
[01:44] <linuxboy> djp: what repo is it in?
[01:44] <djp> linuxboy: i do not know. flash is a restricted format and i don't like it! however, i do have the gplflash plugin installed, in order to view certain pages
[01:44] <tiglionabbit> it's an open source flash plugin they're reverse-engineering.  A friend of mine is working on it
[01:44] <djp> linuxboy: universe
[01:44] <linuxboy> djp: i got flashplugin-nonfree installed
[01:44] <linuxboy> tiglionabbit: i know what glpflash is
[01:44] <Cam-> does anyone know a good program for my tv tuner?
[01:44] <tiglionabbit> I personally use the flash plugin that firefox installs automatically
[01:44] <djp> tiglionabbit: bloody good job they are doing as well!
[01:45] <cgray> Cam-: tvtime
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> linuxboy: oops, misread.  me tired
[01:45] <spanglesontoast> how do I remove evolution?
[01:45] <djp> linuxboy: support free software and use the gplflash plugin! ;)
[01:45] <spanglesontoast> without killing ubuntu
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: use synaptic, search for and remove it
[01:45] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: with synaptic or apt-get (or aptitude)
[01:45] <djp> tiglionabbit: i'm gonna tell your friend! ;)
[01:46] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: i removed it and mine still works ;)
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: don't worry about getting rid of ubuntu-desktop.  There is actually nothing in it, and it's just meant t oround up the general packages.
[01:46] <spanglesontoast> ah
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: you should get it back when you upgrade to breezy though
[01:46] <linuxboy> djp: i want to be able to play anything... not just a few things. why is mine just broken for 1 user? I deleted the .mozilla dir, and it didn't help
[01:46] <spanglesontoast> bummer
[01:46] <spanglesontoast> I hate evolution
[01:46] <Cam-> can tvtime recognize my remote?
[01:47] <ateves> what burn tool would you recommend for gnome?
[01:47] <djp> linuxboy: have you cleared the cache in firefox? just a suggestion
[01:48] <linuxboy> djp: the cache lives in .mozilla.... i deleted it already
[01:48] <bimberi> ateves: you can burn data cds via nautilus and there's also gnomebaker and graveman
[01:48] <ateves> k
[01:48] <djp> linuxboy: ahh, you deleted the entire folder got you. hmm strange... hold on...
[01:49] <linuxboy> djp: it must be something else... I can't figure out what. I ever straced it
[01:50] <spanglesontoast> wouldn't it be cool if thunderbird could talk to the windows machine aswell
[01:50] <HappyFool> linuxboy: maybe backup ~/.mozilla and erase it entirely?
[01:50] <spanglesontoast> I ment grab the emails that I had seen
[01:50] <spanglesontoast> on my windoze machine
[01:50] <linuxboy> HappyFool: I did that
[01:50] <markus> hi guy's i have install beep media player and i can't play mp3 but i can play with music player, any help for me ??
[01:50] <djp> HappyFool: i think he has done that already
[01:50] <Chillout> hi there, i am getting the following errormessage and dont know what to do with it:
[01:50] <Chillout> (gedit:29190): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:51] <Chillout> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> !gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:51] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[01:51] <LasseL> My xmodmap.conf doesn't load on login. I post "xmodmap /ect/xmodmap.conf" in /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default. Any suggestions?
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:51] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> oops
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> o wait, yes
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> markus: get that package
[01:51] <linuxboy> djp: oh yes, let me show you the error...
[01:51] <markus> ok wait i will try
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[01:51] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> markus: it's in universe.  That howto will tell you how to enable it
[01:52] <markus> how to enable it
[01:52] <markus> i have install it
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> markus: I mean enable the repository it's in
[01:53] <markus> gstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.
[01:53] <markus> i mean this one
[01:53] <tiglionabbit> hm
[01:53] <markus> hm..
[01:53] <markus> so
[01:53] <markus> before i'm restart my pc i can play
[01:53] <tiglionabbit> uh..
[01:53] <markus> but now can't
[01:53] <tiglionabbit> oh, it's ESD
[01:54] <markus> ESD ? what's that
[01:54] <tiglionabbit> if you want, you can go through the long task of configuring sound correctly
[01:54] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[01:54] <ubotu> [sound]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:54] <tiglionabbit> that forum post details it
[01:54] <markus> ic
[01:54] <Chillout> anyone knows what this message means?: (gedit:29190): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:54] <Chillout> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication faile
[01:54] <markus> ok i will check it and come back here if not wroking
[01:54] <markus> :)
[01:55] <tiglionabbit> markus: or for a quick fix, you can disable ESD completely, by saying killall esd, and turning off the sound server in system -> preferences -> sound
[01:55] <tiglionabbit> you'll want it enabled if you're gonna follow those steps though
[01:56] <tiglionabbit> ESD is Enlightenment Sound Daemon, btw.  It's for mixing several sound streams together.  Unfortunately, Hoary doesn't come very well configured for it, so in its current setup it's more of a burden than a help
[01:56] <tiglionabbit> it works great for some sound cards though
[01:57] <markus> off
[01:57] <markus> gstreamer-properties
[01:57] <markus> i do that
[01:57] <markus> and test it
[01:57] <tiglionabbit> what?
[01:57] <markus> no one working
[01:57] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: hi, you still/again here!?... and i see the bot as well :).
[01:58] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: yeah, I never sleep
[01:59] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: :), well if u dont need it thats just great for you. mmh, could five me a hand getting my Wireless running on ubuntu?
[01:59] <Chillout> five = you
[01:59] <markus> any help for me
[01:59] <Cam-> ne1 familiar with this: xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[02:00] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: if it's a usb modem, I gots no clue
[02:00] <markus> !wiki
[02:00] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: no its build in Broadcom Wireless (using a notebokk)
[02:00] <action09> hi
[02:00] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: does ubuntu detect it?
[02:00] <markus> !wiki sound
[02:01] <Chillout> u mean in the device manager?
[02:01] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: yes
[02:01] <tiglionabbit> sure, or with lspci
[02:01] <spanglesontoast> baboon
[02:01] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: however in'the network manager it does not appear
[02:01] <aspro> anyone here use ubuntu on a powerbook?
[02:01] <markus> !wiki media player
[02:02] <rob^> :)
[02:02] <tiglionabbit> here's a wifi howto..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:02] <tiglionabbit> !wifi
[02:02] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:02] <tiglionabbit> oh cool, ubotu knows it already
[02:02] <markus> !beep
[02:02] <ubotu> markus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:03] <markus> you know before i'm restart my pc i can hear np3 but after i'm restart it can't how come ????
[02:03] <tiglionabbit> markus: so, you killed ESD and are trying it?
[02:03] <markus> what command to kill it ?
[02:03] <tiglionabbit> killall esd
[02:03] <Chillout> tiglionabbit: ok, i think i read that already, but i failed to do anything... ill try again tho
[02:04] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: heh, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[02:04] <anacron> Chillout: i might be able to help you if you have wifi problems
[02:04] <sinferno> how do i create a script?
[02:04] <markus> ohhh
[02:04] <markus> it work
[02:04] <markus> thanks
[02:04] <markus> ;)
[02:04] <sinferno> whats the command to create a script
[02:05] <tiglionabbit> markus: okay, that means you need to follow that sound faq to make things work right for you
[02:05] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[02:05] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:05] <markus> ok
[02:05] <markus> thanks for help
[02:05] <markus> god bless you
[02:05] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome.  And if you turned off ESD in the gui, turn it back on for that guide
[02:05] <anacron> Chillout: so do you have wlan problems?
[02:06] <Cam-> why is my video overlay not working?
[02:06] <tiglionabbit> overlay?
[02:06] <Cam-> is v4l installed by default on ubuntu?
[02:06] <Cam-> yer
[02:06] <Cam-> tvtime wont work because i cant get video overlay
[02:08] <Cam-> wouldnt happen to have anything to do with xv not working
[02:08] <Cam-> would it?
[02:08] <Tsukasa> well you can check if xv works
[02:08] <Tsukasa> by typing xvinfo
[02:09] <Cam-> Multimedia Systems Selector gives me a
[02:09] <Cam-> Failed to construct test pipeline for XWindows (x11/XShm/Xv)
[02:09] <tiglionabbit> well, goodnight guys
[02:09] <Tsukasa> Cam-, that's normal
[02:09] <tiglionabbit> good luck with stuff
[02:09] <Cam-> screen #0
[02:09] <Cam->  no adaptors present
[02:10] <eruin> is gksudo taking ages to start up on other peoples breezy ?
[02:10] <Tsukasa> Cam-, well, then xv is not enabled
[02:10] <eruin> and has anyone else successfulyl set up ati drivers on breezy? I'm used to the simplicity of nvidia o.O
[02:10] <Cam-> and that can be rectified how?
[02:11] <spanglesontoast> is it possible to make the system sounds come through esd?
[02:11] <Tsukasa> Cam-, by editing the xorg.conf and adding the line Option "VideoOverlay" "on" in the device section for the graphic adapter
[02:11] <Cam-> spangle: in Multimedia Systems Selector
[02:11] <Cam-> you can select the Default Sink
[02:11] <Cam-> Tsukasa: thanks man :)
[02:11] <floo> I've just compiled my own kernel using make-kpkg but the nvidia driver won't work.  What should I do?
[02:12] <Tsukasa> Cam-, note that when you're  using the ati drivers you cannot enable OpenGL Overlay and Video Overlay at the same time
[02:12] <spanglesontoast> !sink
[02:12] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:12] <Cam-> so
[02:12] <Cam-> eg
[02:12] <Cam-> i cant play games, and use xv?
[02:12] <Cam-> eg: i cant watch movies or tv lol
[02:12] <Tsukasa> well, you can play games
[02:12] <Tsukasa> but they're slower
[02:13] <spanglesontoast> what does default source do
[02:13] <Tsukasa> I've to switch configuration every time I want to play, so I gave up on playing in linux and change back to windows every time
[02:13] <Tsukasa> performance of the ati driver is really pitiful too
[02:15] <mynameisjonas> just installed hoary and loving it. Got everything set up just the way I like it. One problem really buggine me though is i get a complete system hang whenever i try to visit the wiki https://ubuntulinux.org/wiki in firefox. Although i can still move the mouse, I cant CTRL-ALT F2 to switch to a virtual term or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart X. Weird eh? Any ideas how I should go about troubleshooting this?
[02:15] <Mafi> I need help with amule. I always get connection lost when I try to connect
[02:16] <floo> myname is jonas:  Do you have the nvidia driver installed
[02:16] <mynameisjonas> i certainly do floo
[02:16] <floo> ok, then your problem might be agp related
[02:16] <ram_einstein> I can't export my contacts from Evolution as csv using evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv
[02:16] <floo> sudo gedit /etc/X11Xorg.conf
[02:17] <ram_einstein> because it produces several blank lines and the error "FIXME: wait for completion unimplemented"
[02:17] <pax> mynameisjonas: if your system freezes, try to install the right driver for your graphics card.
[02:17] <Belutz> anyone use gaim?
[02:17] <Tsukasa> Belutz, yes
[02:17] <ram_einstein> where did I go wrong?
[02:17] <Tsukasa> Belutz, but the one from repository :)
[02:17] <mynameisjonas> its only that particular site at the moment and it is 100% reproducable even in failsafe gnome
[02:17] <raven3x7> does anyone know if nvidia drivers need only the headers to compile or also the source code?
[02:18] <Belutz> Tsukasa, how can i make the icon in buddy list smaller? and can gaim give visual alert when someone is online or offline?
[02:18] <HappyFool> raven3x7: you should only need linux-headers-<whatever>
[02:18] <Mafi> I need help with amule. I always get connection lost when I try to connect and I get this error on every server from the list
[02:18] <mynameisjonas> floo - what am i looking for in xorg.conf? the agp section?
[02:18] <floo> then underneath "nvidia" type this "option" "NvAgp" "0"
[02:18] <spanglesontoast> what other programs are fun to use nicotine was fun
[02:18] <Tsukasa> Belutz, Settings -> Contact list -> Show Buddy Icon (check it off)
[02:18] <raven3x7> k HappyFool thanks
[02:18] <floo> no the 'Device section'
[02:18] <Tsukasa> it will disable the buddy icon though
[02:18] <Chillout> hi, how do i untar a file within the shell?
[02:18] <Tsukasa> but makes the list smaller
[02:18] <floo> find "nvidia"
[02:18] <mynameisjonas> cool thx, will give it a go now
[02:19] <floo> then reboot
[02:19] <floo> good luck
[02:19] <mynameisjonas> i'm happy editing config files, my other car is a gentoo box
[02:19] <floo> ok
[02:19] <Tsukasa> Belutz, about visual notifictation, try the plugin "notification"
[02:19] <Belutz> Tsukasa, yup, buddy icon off is much better now :)
[02:20] <Belutz> Tsukasa, do i have to download the plugin first?
[02:20] <Tsukasa> Belutz, I think the plugin comes with the package
[02:20] <mynameisjonas> ok to restart x and give it a go now
[02:20] <Chillout> how do i untar a file from within in the shell? or is there a way to use the GUI with root rights?
[02:20] <mynameisjonas> cheers floo
[02:20] <Magius>  what does Eroor for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed on device ath0; Invalid argument. ??
[02:20] <Tsukasa> Chillout, tar -xvf
[02:20] <Magius> mean
[02:20] <birgit> hi! I'm installing ubnuntu and I just have one small network problem.. I try to set static dns but it always reverts to 192.168.1.1 after a little while which doesn't work very well.. any hints?
[02:21] <Chillout> Tsukasa: thy, i'll try that
[02:21] <raven3x7> one more quick question how do i shut down x? alt+ctrl+backspace only restarts it.
[02:21] <Tsukasa> raven3x7, killall gdm
[02:21] <overture> switch to a console
[02:21] <raven3x7> ok thanks
[02:22] <Belutz> Tsukasa, ok i'm trying it
[02:22] <apokryphos> birgit: have you tried doing it this way? http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#probstaticip
[02:22] <overture> then just kill X or whatever manages x sessions for you (gdm/kdm, etc)
[02:22] <birgit> apokryphos, no I'll try :)
[02:24] <kbrooks> hey
[02:24] <cyphase> Windows 95: A 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that cant take 1-bit of competition.
[02:24] <kbrooks> lol
[02:25] <kbrooks> cyphase, i heard that
[02:25] <spanglesontoast> how do I put a new font in?
[02:25] <ubuntu> where can I find soundcard drivers for Ubuntu? My soundcard is Swissonic Inca28.
[02:25] <kbrooks> uh, ubuntu 5.04?
[02:25] <jf6> HELLLO
[02:25] <kbrooks> or kubuntu?
[02:26] <spanglesontoast> ubuntu
[02:26] <kbrooks> ok
[02:26] <kbrooks> *checks*
[02:27] <birgit> apokryphos, I'll try adding a dns-nameservers there then?
[02:27] <kbrooks> appears you cant put a new font in.....use synaptic, perhaps there is a package for the font you need/want,
[02:27] <kbrooks> spanglesontoast, but icbw
[02:27] <apokryphos> birgit: if that's what you want to change, then sure
[02:27] <spanglesontoast> do I have to be a root?
[02:28] <kbrooks> er wait spanglesontoast
[02:28] <ram_einstein> um... can anyone help me export my evolution addressbook as csv?
[02:28] <spanglesontoast> ?
[02:28] <klaym> how can I disable w3m bew browser? its buggering me that it opens up everytime I open a link in xchat
[02:29] <klaym> *w3m web browser
[02:30] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Is a a PCI card?
[02:30] <spanglesontoast> ?
[02:31] <kbrooks> Raptoid, who are you
[02:31] <Raptoid> fine you ?
[02:31] <kbrooks> spanglesontoast, sounds like there is a fonts folder
[02:31] <kbrooks> Raptoid, *who*
[02:31] <spanglesontoast> bah
[02:31] <spanglesontoast> where?
[02:32] <kbrooks> i dont know the EXACT path to it
[02:32] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: have you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:32] <spanglesontoast> ah
[02:32] <spanglesontoast> dw
[02:32] <spanglesontoast> lol
[02:32] <mynameisjonas> anybody shed any light on my ubuntuliunx.org/wiki problem?
[02:32] <kbrooks> but fonts:///
[02:32] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: that offers a means for user- (non-root) installation
[02:34] <HappyFool> mynameisjonas: what problem is that?
[02:34] <spanglesontoast> k
[02:34] <sinferno> say i want to chmod and change every file in every folder in a directory wouldnt it be chmod -r 777
[02:35] <ateves> can i mount a win partition so that i can write data on it?
[02:35] <ubuntu> I repeat my question. Where can I find soundcard drivers for Ubuntu? My soundcard is Swissonic Inca28. And why my Ubuntu Linux doesn't recognize my soundcard at all?
[02:35] <Tsukasa> sinferno: yep, sudo chmod -r 777 *
[02:35] <HappyFool> sinferno: -R
[02:35] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Is it a PCI card?
[02:35] <kbrooks> Tsukasa, r != R
[02:35] <Tsukasa> sry, faulty caps :\
[02:35] <HappyFool> ubuntu: you can *try* installing the latest alsa from www.alsa-project.org
[02:35] <Tsukasa> ^^
[02:36] <HappyFool> ateves: only FAT partitions, not NTFS
[02:36] <ateves> hmpf
[02:36] <HappyFool> ubuntu: they have a list of supported cards there
[02:36] <mynameisjonas> happyfool - i get a major hang when i use firefox to go to the wiki. I can still move the mouse but can't restart X using CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or change to a virtual term with CTRL-ALT-F2
[02:37] <kbrooks> ateves, you can try writing to it, but its inadvisible
[02:37] <mynameisjonas> numlock and capslock keys don't work
[02:37] <HappyFool> ateves: there are windows programs for reading ext3 partitions -- search for explore2fs and ext2fsd
[02:37] <mynameisjonas> everything else is fine
[02:37] <kbrooks> behavior is undefined
[02:37] <ateves> ok, thx
[02:37] <HappyFool> mynameisjonas: eek
[02:37] <ubuntu> yes it is pci card, http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_swissonic_inca_28_prodinfo.html.
[02:37] <mynameisjonas> its just when i try to visit the wiki
[02:37] <Tsukasa> mynameisjonas, try lynx for the meantime :)
[02:37] <P3L|C4N0> ubotu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[02:37] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, P3L|C4N0
[02:37] <mynameisjonas> wiki
[02:37] <Tsukasa> mynameisjonas, to access the wiki
[02:37] <dmgunn> hello, sorry for my newbie nesss,  what does it mean when synaptic says "Warning, you are about to install software that can't be authenticated"
[02:37] <ubuntu> HappyFool I'll check there. :] 
[02:37] <HappyFool> mynameisjonas: what about other https sites?
[02:37] <Nameeater> how do you mount NFTS in readonly ? :>
[02:37] <Tsukasa> dmgunn, it means you're installing unofficial software
[02:37] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Try running "lspci" and look for your card there. See if it tells you information on what chip is used
[02:38] <P3L|C4N0> ubotu, soundcards is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[02:38] <ubotu> ...but soundcards is already something else...
[02:38] <mynameisjonas> thats what i thought as well, but its fine with my online banking
[02:38] <kbrooks> ubotu, soundcards
[02:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, soundcards is ""http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards/""
[02:38] <HappyFool> dmgunn: or you had a hiccough in repo updating. try 'reload' in synaptic, or 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:38] <kbrooks> P3L|C4N0, ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:38] <Belutz> HappyFool, in synaptic, there are some icons that has a star, what does it means?
[02:38] <Oly> but cant rememis there an auto answer yes for apt-get command ?
[02:38] <HappyFool> Belutz: um, i think it means the package comes with dpkg-reconfigure support
[02:38] <Oly> is there an auto answer yes for apt-get command ?
[02:38] <Tsukasa> Belutz, highly official (k)ubuntu software
[02:38] <kbrooks> Oly,
[02:38] <kbrooks> yes
[02:38] <HappyFool> Belutz: i think synaptic help has a 'legend' option
[02:38] <Oly> waz what i was supposed to say :p
[02:38] <dmgunn> is it "ok" to install unofficial software?  What will it do?
[02:39] <Belutz> ok
[02:39] <Tsukasa> dmgunn, in most cases it won't harm your system
[02:39] <Oly> what is it then ? i tried --force-yes
[02:39] <kbrooks> dmgunn, in rare cases it can break your system
[02:39] <dand> anyone here could help me "recover" my wiki name in launchpad? (i'm only allowed DanDamian4, not sure why DanDamian it's taken)
[02:39] <Tsukasa> dmgunn, it's just a notice that the source is not verified by the ubuntu team
[02:39] <Oly> does not seem todo what i wanted
[02:40] <kbrooks> Oly, -y
[02:40] <Oly> oh right would be somethign simple :p
[02:40] <dmgunn> Tsukasa, thanks very much... Is there a way in synaptic to list all the stuff that is verified by the Ubuntu team?
[02:40] <HappyFool> dand: maybe email a wiki admin (is there such an address on the wiki page?)
[02:40] <kbrooks> dmgunn, No.
[02:40] <spanglesontoast> why does xmms just freeze when I try to play an mp3?
[02:40] <Oly> thxs kbrooks :)
[02:41] <Magius> Anyone else have trouble with atheros wireless in 5.04?
[02:41] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: tell it to use ESD for the output plugin. somewhere in preferences
[02:41] <dmgunn> thanks guys
[02:41] <Tsukasa> spanglesontoast, maybe a conflict in the sound daemons
[02:41] <sinferno> ok i just did chmod -R /usr/ and my usr dir vanished
[02:41] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[02:41] <sinferno> im scared
[02:41] <sinferno> lol
[02:41] <HappyFool> sinferno: what was the exact command?
[02:41] <kbrooks> sinferno, define vanished
[02:41] <dand> HappyFool: thanks, i'll try do that. i gave irc a quick shot :)
[02:42] <sinferno> ok i typed it in wrong
[02:42] <Bubbling_Zombie> try starting it with the commandline spanglesontoast and see what the output says
[02:42] <kbrooks> sinferno, -R does NOT remove
[02:42] <sinferno> kbrooks, i did sudo chmod -R /usr/ forgetting to put 777
[02:42] <HappyFool> dand: fair enough. you may not get any response until tomorrow (it is weekend)
[02:42] <kbrooks> lol
[02:42] <spanglesontoast> libmikmod.so.2
[02:42] <Tsukasa> sinferno, then just do the same with 777 again ;)
[02:42] <sinferno> kbrooks, and it is gone now
[02:42] <kbrooks> sinferno, define gone!
[02:42] <kbrooks> what do you mean by "gone"
[02:43] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: This suggests there isn't support for the Inca 28 in Linux http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/archive/index.php/t-184586.html
[02:43] <kbrooks> as in erased, or?
[02:43] <sinferno> no i didnt erase
[02:43] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ sudo chmod -r 777 /usr
[02:43] <sinferno> chmod: cannot access `777': No such file or directory
[02:43] <sinferno> wt
[02:43] <Tsukasa> chmod -R
[02:43] <sinferno> am i typing tha right
[02:43] <kbrooks> sinferno, 777 doesnt exist
[02:43] <Tsukasa> like R in "ARRRRR"
[02:43] <sinferno> i know
[02:43] <kbrooks> Tsukasa, /usr exists
[02:43] <kbrooks> er
[02:43] <sinferno> ok
[02:43] <kbrooks> sinferno, *
[02:43] <sinferno> i think i got it maybe
[02:43] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, lspci tells me that mys soundcard manufactor is Hint Corp. Who's that?
[02:44] <kbrooks> sinferno, why 777  /usr
[02:44] <Magius> Anyone else have trouble with atheros wireless?
[02:44] <kbrooks> ??
[02:44] <HappyFool> sinferno: it is not a wise idea to set 777 for /usr, anyway
[02:44] <sinferno> kbrooks, so my games can write to it
[02:44] <Tsukasa> kbrooks, I know that /usr exists
[02:44] <sinferno> kbrooks, what should i set it to
[02:44] <kbrooks> sinferno, leave it alone
[02:44] <HappyFool> Magius: have you looked on the wiki ? best i can do, i don't have wireless
[02:44] <Tsukasa> sinferno, normally your games should be able to do so by default
[02:44] <sinferno> soo what should i set it back to
[02:44] <sinferno> i already changed it what was it @
[02:44] <sinferno> 755?
[02:45] <HappyFool> sinferno: maybe
[02:45] <kbrooks> sinferno, 766
[02:45] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: That is odd - could you paste the whole output of lspci here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:45] <HappyFool> sinferno: you've made everything executable
[02:45] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ sudo chmod -R 766 /usr
[02:45] <sinferno> sudo: must be setuid root
[02:45] <sinferno> yeah i think i just fucked myself
[02:45] <kbrooks> sinferno, no, you didnt fuck yourself
[02:45] <sinferno> my gnome is freezing
[02:46] <HappyFool> sinferno: oh -- you've removed setuid bits on programs too.
[02:46] <sinferno> ahhh
[02:46] <sinferno> how do i fix
[02:46] <sinferno> lol
[02:46] <sinferno> omfg
[02:46] <kbrooks> sinferno, do not ever run any command without READING THE ASSOCIATED MANUAL PAGE of the command
[02:46] <HappyFool> sinferno: to be honest, the most pain-free way would be to reinstall
[02:47] <ateves> can i add KDE to ubuntu so that i can access KDE via the login screen?
[02:47] <kbrooks> sinferno, deal?
[02:47] <Tsukasa> ateves, yes, apt-get install kde
[02:47] <sinferno> HappyFool, whats the other way
[02:47] <HappyFool> sinferno: otherwise get some to mail you a 'ls -lR' of /usr, boot into recovery mode and set the perms on each file
[02:47] <ateves> will it be available at the login?
[02:47] <Tsukasa> ateves, it will automatically be added to the "Session" button on the login screen
[02:47] <ateves> ok
[02:47] <kbrooks> sinferno, ill send you that.
[02:47] <kbrooks> hang on
[02:47] <HappyFool> sinferno: i'm guessing there are ~1000 files (maybe many more) in /usr, so that could take a while
[02:47] <Chillout> hi there, where can i download an .inf file for my broadcom wireless card? i am about to configure this ndiswrapper..
[02:48] <kbrooks> sinferno, then again
[02:48] <Tsukasa> Chillout, what do you intend to do with an .inf file?
[02:48] <kbrooks> sinferno, dude. what games cant access /usr?
[02:48] <sinferno> kbrooks, descent3
[02:48] <sinferno> kbrooks, dammit this blows i cant believe i did that
[02:48] <kbrooks> sinferno, well:
[02:48] <sinferno> kbrooks, i mean how bad could it be?
[02:48] <kbrooks> do not ever run any command without READING THE ASSOCIATED MANUAL PAGE of the command
[02:49] <sinferno> kbrooks, if everything is executable so what
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> kbrooks: well, you can
[02:49] <raven3x7> hi again
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> just don't complain about it afterwards
[02:49] <Chillout> Tsukasa: i am following this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto . want to get my wireless card working
[02:49] <raven3x7> im still stuggling with the nvidia drivers.
[02:49] <kbrooks> sinferno, bad for ubuntu
[02:49] <Magius> channel was wrong on the install....Install program should ask what channel your wireless is on
[02:49] <kbrooks> sinferno, now lets reinstall.
[02:49] <raven3x7> i could use some help with the conf file
[02:50] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, I don't speak german so I didn't get the "message", but it seems that I've got to put my old Yamaha soundcard back to the business... :D Thanks anyway...
[02:50] <kbrooks> sinferno, also,
[02:50] <Sinclair> hi
[02:50] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: I think it is likely that if Ubuntu supported your card it would autodetect it
[02:51] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: But it is possible that the card chipset is made by someone else, which Linux does support
[02:51] <Tsukasa> Chillout, http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/downloaddrivers.php - just unpack them manually
[02:51] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: That is why I was interested in the lspci output
[02:51] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: It is odd that "Hint Corp" is in the output for the card, since I didn't  think they made sound chips
[02:52] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, might be...;)  but who is Hint Corp?
[02:53] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: They make PCI bridges
[02:53] <Chillout> Tsukasa: ty, ill try that
[02:53] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Could you paste the whole output of lspci here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:53] <raven3x7> i have compiled the drivers but a restart gives a fatal error 11 from the xserver. any ideas?
[02:54] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch. the whole output?
[02:54] <kbrooks> yes
[02:54] <kbrooks> all of it
[02:54] <Tsukasa> raven3x7, misconfigurated xorg.conf or broken drivers
[02:54] <kbrooks> at the pastebin
[02:54] <Tsukasa> raven3x7, you can always fall back on the mesa drivers in case of emergency
[02:54] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Run lspci and paste all of it into that URL
[02:54] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: It shouldn't be too much
[02:55] <ubuntu> ok, pasted
[02:55] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: Then paste the URL you are sent to into this channel
[02:55] <kbrooks> link?
[02:55] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: It will be something like "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/471"
[02:55] <raven3x7> Tsukasa you mean nv? thats what im using now
[02:57] <raven3x7> brb gonna give it another try
[02:58] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/472
[02:58] <nick__> right it just happened when i logged into amazon
[02:58] <birgit> anyone got problems installing libcairo?
[02:58] <mynameisjonas> so its got to be a https thing
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> i can't believe distrowatch hasn't heard of podcasting
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> i just dropped them an email
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> :)
[03:00] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, Ubuntu
[03:00] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, Ubuntu's Device Manager call's this pci-soundcard unknown device...
[03:00] <dmgunn> is there a way to only list packages that are ubuntu verified, for example, can we somehow remove repositories that arent ubuntu verified
[03:00] <ethics> hey all, i have a debian laptop i want to go to ubuntu with, is there an easi upgrade path to it?
[03:01] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: It appears to be a AudioTrak soundcard
[03:01] <HappyFool> dmgunn: remove everything that isn't archive.ubuntu.com
[03:01] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, and?
[03:01] <HappyFool> dmgunn: the repository list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <HappyFool> dmgunn: have you consciously added non-ubuntu repositories?
[03:02] <dmgunn> HappyFool, thanks the repository list is also in synaptic, so I'll just use the nice GUI to do it... thanks
[03:02] <HappyFool> dmgunn: fair enough
[03:02] <Chillout> Tsukasa: are you shure this page has the downloads for the wireless cards??? coz it says sth about ethernet....
[03:02] <HappyFool> dmgunn: it may be possible to get the gpg keys for non-ubuntu repositories
[03:02] <birgit> is this broken? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb
[03:02] <spanglesontoast> brb
[03:02] <HappyFool> mynameisjonas: sorry, lost track a bit there -- you've got problems with other https sites too?
[03:02] <dmgunn> HappyFool: what does that mean?
[03:02] <xlsMessenger> what does dist-upgrade do?
[03:03] <HappyFool> birgit: us.archive is broken -- change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <HappyFool> dmgunn: i think this is mentioned in the wiki -- stand by
[03:03] <sjmurdoch> ubuntu: I still can't find any drivers for it
[03:03] <HappyFool> dmgunn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTAuthentication and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[03:04] <Tsukasa> Chillout, out of the amount of information there's no other driver downloadpage
[03:04] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, I thought so... :(
[03:04] <Tsukasa> Chillout, are you sure your wlan card is by broadcom? I'd rather say your router is
[03:04] <Chillout> Tsukasa: ok
[03:04] <birgit> HappyFool, ok ubuntuguide.org should be updated then
[03:04] <ethics> hey all, i have a debian laptop i want to go to ubuntu with, is there an easi upgrade path to it?
[03:04] <HappyFool> dmgunn: this does require the repo admin to have a key -- this may not be true for backports, e.g.
[03:04] <ogott> hi, can somebody tell me where i can find information on ubuntu .deb packages?
[03:04] <HappyFool> birgit: it's probably (hopefully?) temporary
[03:04] <HappyFool> birgit: bear in mind that it's the weekend
[03:05] <yonil> how can i make an application run as root no matter which user runs it ?
[03:05] <Tsukasa> ogott, what kind of information? descriptions of packages from repositories can be found via synaptic
[03:05] <xlsMessenger> anyone..., what does dist-upgrade do?
[03:05] <ubuntu> sjmurdoch, but hey. Thanks anyway..:D
[03:05] <birgit> HappyFool, ok :)
[03:05] <ogott> Tsukasa: i didn't install ubuntu yet, i want some info on the packages first on the net...
[03:06] <HappyFool> xlsMessenger: it's used for upgrading a distribution, say from warty (ubutun 4.10) to hoary (ubuntu 5.04)
[03:06] <ogott> Tsukasa: and yes, i mean descriptions, versions, etc. like on packages.debian.org
[03:06] <HappyFool> ogott: packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[03:06] <ogott> HappyFool: ...
[03:06] <ep> I get sound on login so i know it can work, however multimedia streams, movies, audio CD's etc. will not play any sound stream.
[03:06] <ogott> HappyFool: thanks, i
[03:07] <ep> juK gves this error message: Error initializing sound server. Totem: Could not open resource for writing.
[03:07] <ogott> HappyFool: thanks, i'm quite dumb from time to time...
[03:07] <ep> How can I fix this?
[03:07] <mason> just installed 5.04 and modem is not running at 56k.
[03:07] <ogott> HappyFool: wtf? that's .com?
[03:07] <xlsMessenger> HappyFool, i'm on hoary now, so i shouldn't run apt-get dist-upgrade at all, right?
[03:08] <HappyFool> ogott: err, yeah. i think that url is right
[03:08] <ogott> HappyFool: maybe i'm not that dumb. i just can't believe that
[03:08] <HappyFool> xlsMessenger: no
[03:08] <ogott> HappyFool: yeah, it is. that's why i didn't find it :/
[03:08] <HappyFool> ogott: that works here
[03:08] <HappyFool> ogott: oh, right ;)
[03:08] <ogott> HappyFool: thanks again!
[03:11] <mason> how do i set modem speed to 56k?
[03:11] <yonil> how can i make an application run in startup ?
[03:11] <sjmurdoch> ubotu: It would be worthwhile if you (nicely) contact Swissonic and ask them for Linux support. The more people who ask, the more likely it is that they will
[03:11] <ubotu> sjmurdoch: I think you lost me on that one
[03:12] <ogott> yonil: in KDE?
[03:12] <yonil> ogott, nope ..
[03:12] <yonil> ogott, gnome
[03:12] <ogott> yonil: oh, ok
[03:12] <sjmurdoch> Ah, ubuntu left
[03:12] <yonil> ogott, why does it matter ? i wont it to run as a daemon before gnome even starts anyway ..
[03:13] <grogoreo> hi
[03:13] <LasseL> can I make VLC disable the screensaver?
[03:13] <monk> anybody here use kino?
[03:14] <grogoreo> I used alien to convert a tarball file to a deb. I installed it and everything was ok, but it has been installed into the / . How do i un-install the package with dpkg?
[03:14] <ogott> yonil: oh, ok that makes it easier (never really used gnome)
[03:14] <ogott> yonil: you can create a init script
[03:14] <yonil> ogott, where should i place it ?
[03:14] <ogott> yonil: there should be a file called /etc/init.d/skeleton
[03:14] <ogott> yonil: it's a template what it should look like
[03:15] <yonil> ogott, i see... once i create it, where should i place it ?
[03:15] <ogott> yonil: put it in /etc/init.d
[03:15] <yonil> ogott, aight thanks ! :)
[03:15] <ogott> yonil: and in /etc/rc3.d should be a link to it called "S99script"
[03:16] <ogott> yonil: then it will be executed at last when the system enters runlevel 3
[03:16] <ogott> yonil: /etc/rc#.d are the other runlevels
[03:16] <yonil> ogott, i need a runlevel in which the network works already, do you know which one is it ? (its automatic with dhcp)
[03:17] <HappyFool> default ubuntu runlevel is 2, afaik
[03:17] <ogott> oh, thanks
[03:17] <ogott> not using ubuntu yet...
[03:17] <ep> How is it possible that I get sound on login, but I can't play any audio file (i.e. wav or ogg) and movies play without sound?
[03:17] <HappyFool> ep: what player are you using?
[03:17] <action09_> hi
[03:18] <ep> As soon as I find one that works -- thats the one i'll use.
[03:18] <HappyFool> ep: i mean, which one have you tested ;)
[03:18] <action09_> i've got an error with amule:
[03:18] <HappyFool> does 'Music Player' not play ogg files?
[03:18] <action09_> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:18] <ep> I got amarok juk totem mplayer xmms
[03:19] <ep> music play doesn't play ogg files correct
[03:19] <HappyFool> ep: hmm. how about something like 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' ? does that work?
[03:19] <action09_> anyone has an idea please ?
[03:19] <HappyFool> action09: how did you install amule?
[03:19] <action09_> apt-get install amule
[03:19] <ogott> action09_: what says "locate libwx_gtk-2.4.so"
[03:20] <action09_> i've universe/multiverse and backports (as in the guide)
[03:20] <action09_> locate libwx_gtk-2.4.so
[03:20] <ogott> yonil: still here?
[03:20] <action09_> /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1
[03:20] <cyphase> HappyFool, you need root privleges though
[03:20] <ep> that works happy fool
[03:20] <yonil> ogott, sure
[03:20] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install amule
[03:20] <HappyFool> cyphase: for?
[03:20] <cyphase> to install software
[03:20] <HappyFool> cyphase: oh, i think he's done that already
[03:20] <ogott> action09_: you should create a link to /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0.1.1 called /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0
[03:20] <ogott> that should do the trick
[03:21] <HappyFool> cyphase: i was trying to find out if he maybe did 'dpkg -i --super-force-even-if-it-won't-work' or something
[03:21] <action09_> ogott  to it.. great thx
[03:21] <ogott> action09_: good luck, hope it workd
[03:21] <HappyFool> ep: ok, what does 'pgrep esd' say?
[03:21] <ogott> yonil: ok, what exactely do you wanna do?
[03:21] <action09_> ogott segfault :)
[03:21] <ogott> action09_; damn, remove the link :(
[03:22] <ep> $ pgrep esd  nothing
[03:22] <HappyFool> ep: hmm
[03:22] <ogott> action09_; sorry, most times that does the trick/
[03:22] <yonil> ogott, i wanna run a daemon whenever i boot the computer (the daemon is sending my ip to a server)
[03:22] <HappyFool> ep: try 'esd'  -- it should play an annoying test sound, and then wait
[03:22] <action09_> ogott  yes thx anyway :)
[03:23] <HappyFool> ep: if that works, try 'Music Player' again with an ogg file
[03:23] <ogott> action09_: np :p
[03:23] <ep> yes that play annoying sound -- i'm waiting for the prompt.... still
[03:23] <HappyFool> ep: it won't return
[03:23] <ep> ctrl c
[03:23] <ep> ?
[03:24] <HappyFool> ep: it's a daemon running in foreground
[03:24] <HappyFool> yeah
[03:24] <HappyFool> that'll work ;)
[03:24] <HappyFool> it needs to be running for apps like 'Music Player' to work
[03:24] <HappyFool> unless you force the apps to use alsa
[03:24] <ep> oh
[03:24] <action09_> ogott  i could try xmule or another p2p application, i need to d/l an iso from creative for my sound blaster live 5.1 , adn yo CAN'T have the xp drivers if you haven't the original cd.. great :( thx
[03:24] <HappyFool> ep: we're still testing
[03:24] <ep> let me try the tes
[03:24] <ep> i'll rerun it
[03:24] <HappyFool> ep: esd *should* start automatically -- i don't know why it isn't
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> hmm odd xmms won't play anything from samba is that odd?
[03:25] <ogott> action09_: wtf? that's strange. creative...
[03:25] <ramiro> #ubuntud
[03:25] <action09_> damn others do'nt worjk.. same errot 00
[03:25] <action09_> error
[03:25] <ramiro> #ubuntu
[03:26] <CarinArr> hi, i'm using ubuntu 64 on an amd64 processor, have just installed the nvidia drivers, and they install find IF i tell them not to install 32 bit compatibility stuff.. but will this mean i'll run into problems running certain applications?
[03:26] <ramiro> #ubuntu -es
[03:26] <ep> i've never used music player -- it seems to want a play list  grrr cant find an option to just play a file
[03:26] <HappyFool> ep: ok, never mind
[03:26] <HappyFool> ep: try xmms, but change the output plugin to esd
[03:26] <spanglesontoast> why does xmms not play anything off another machine
[03:27] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: does it give an error message?
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> erm not that I know of
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> libmp4v2
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> does that exist?
[03:28] <ep> HappyFool, ok i just clicked on a wav fire and my default player "Totem" now works formally i got an "error writting to device" message.
[03:28] <HappyFool> ep: err, "works formally" ?
[03:28] <HappyFool> oh, formerly ;)
[03:28] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.
[03:28] <ep> I mean before running esd it didn't work
[03:29] <spanglesontoast> yea xmms just won't play the file from another machine
[03:29] <HappyFool> ep: yeah, sorry, i thought you'd gone on math-speak on me
[03:29] <ep> lol
[03:29] <ramiro> hola
[03:29] <ubuntuWins> hola hola ye
[03:30] <ramiro> de donde sos?
[03:30] <gantc> ciao
[03:30] <gantc> hola
[03:30] <ramiro> hola
[03:30] <ramiro> de donde sos?
[03:30] <gantc> no se
[03:30] <ramiro> que loco
[03:31] <gantc> claro que si
[03:31] <ramiro> de que pais eres?
[03:31] <gantc> italia
[03:31] <gantc> y tu?
[03:31] <ramiro> argentina
[03:31] <ep> How do i get esd setup automatically?  I should note I have installed kubuntu desktop...  However sound doesn't work in gnome either.
[03:31] <gantc> que estas buscando?
[03:31] <ramiro> aprender algo de linux
[03:32] <gantc> yo tambien
[03:32] <ramiro> jaja
[03:32] <ramiro> y tu que sabes?
[03:32] <gantc> me gustaria ver DVD
[03:32] <ramiro> para que me ensees
[03:32] <action09_> ogott  i post :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=248789#post248789
[03:32] <gantc> en espanol?
[03:33] <AlP> moin
[03:33] <ogott> action09_: good luck with that one!
[03:33] <gantc> que disto tienes?
[03:33] <ramiro> ubuntu
[03:33] <ogott> action09_: but you installed it with apt-get and it doesn't work? that's strange...
[03:33] <AlP> I just built a kernel 2.6.12.2 using make-kpkg --revision 0.2 --append-to-version vdr kernel_image
[03:33] <action09_> yes
[03:33] <action09_> : (
[03:33] <gantc> tambien
[03:34] <gantc> me gusta mas que debian original
[03:34] <AlP> if I install the resulting kernel, there is an "n" appended" to the version in /lib/modules/
[03:34] <AlP> 2.6.12.2vdrn ...
[03:34] <nerd> I just installed ubuntu for the first time. why did it not ask me for a root password during install?
[03:34] <nerd> how can i log in as root now?
[03:34] <AlP> does anyone know anything about this behavior?
[03:34] <ep> HappyFool, are we done?  Where/how do i configure my sound server, esd
[03:34] <monk> anyone using kino? ( i know i already asked - just seeing if anyone is looking now that wasn't a couple minutes ago )
[03:35] <HappyFool> ep: oh sorry
[03:35] <HappyFool> ep: um, let me just take a quick look at where/how esd starts (if i can find it...)
[03:35] <ep> thanks :)
[03:35] <gantc> ramiro tu puede ver DVD en kaffeine?
[03:35] <Zugwrack> can anyone tell me if there is a way to install Hoary PPC with a command line switch that tells it to use hdb for the bootstrap?
[03:35] <nerd> Any one? why does ubuntu not ask for a root password during install???
[03:35] <AlP> nerd, there is no such thing as a root-Passwort regulary, just an admin-user, who is able to sudo things.
[03:36] <Zugwrack> nerd: Ubuntu uses sudo default
[03:36] <ep> i don't know if it matters, but i installed kubuntu-desktop and use kde most (sound didn't / doesnt work in gnome either)
[03:36] <monk> but there *is* a root user who is disabled by default.
[03:36] <HappyFool> ep: oh
[03:36] <HappyFool> ep: ah
[03:36] <Chillout> hi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?
[03:36] <HappyFool> ep: i should've asked about that ;)
[03:36] <nerd> okay, thanks guys.
[03:36] <Zugwrack> Any of you running PPC?
[03:36] <Chillout> so far i am using "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222"
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[03:37] <HappyFool> ep: kde uses 'artsd', not esd afaik
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[03:37] <Chillout> but the only appear in media folder then
[03:37] <Discipulus> asd, quit spamming
[03:37] <lifeless> somone ban that please
[03:37] <onkarshinde> nerd: There is no default root account in Ubuntu. Instead the first account you create can use sudo
[03:37] <Discipulus> someone ban him?
[03:37] <nerd> thanks onkarshinde :)
[03:38] <gantc> romiro donde estas?
[03:38] <HappyFool> ep: are you in kde right now?
[03:38] <ep> yes
[03:38] <ramiro> es una ventana privadad
[03:38] <ramiro> no te salio?
[03:38] <gantc> no
[03:38] <Magius> mouse pad doesn't work,,,,Any Ideas?
[03:38] <PPower> I cant seem to get my network card up using the pre compiled version in Ubuntu. Its a belkin FD7000
[03:38] <gantc> como se hace?
[03:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> use ndiswrapper PPower
[03:38] <PPower> ?
[03:38] <ep> the esd dameon is still running
[03:38] <PPower> I am
[03:38] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.
[03:38] <HappyFool> ep: ok, kill it
[03:38] <ArCHoNKoG> what app would play avi files ?
[03:39] <HappyFool> ep: i'm not familiar with artsd, unforunately
[03:39] <ep> ctrl c again or kill
[03:39] <onkarshinde> ArCHoNKoG: Try VLC
[03:39] <HappyFool> ctl-c
[03:39] <Bubbling_Zombie> with the right windows drivers (check the list on ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net)
[03:39] <HappyFool> ep: whatever stops it ;)
[03:39] <PPower> Yes
[03:39] <ep> i can check #kubuntu
[03:39] <HappyFool> ep: then try 'pgrep artsd' ?
[03:39] <PPower> It identifies everything
[03:39] <HappyFool> ep: yeah, good idea
[03:39] <ramiro> fijate al lado de la pestaa que estas ahora
[03:39] <ramiro> si no te sale una con mi nombre
[03:39] <HappyFool> ep: i can't find where esd is started in gnome, anyway
[03:39] <gantc> ramiro hacemos pruebas, me gustaria veerla
[03:39] <ramiro> lo que sucede es quye no tengo dvd en mi pc
[03:40] <HappyFool> ep: maybe logout/login again to kde, and try 'artsd' again too
[03:40] <ramiro> asi que ninca probe
[03:40] <HappyFool> ag
[03:40] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know what modem normally an HP laptop ships now a days? I just want to be sure that everything will work under Ubuntu.
[03:40] <HappyFool> ep: i meant 'pgrep artsd'
[03:40] <Bubbling_Zombie> what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[03:40] <egi> !info kino
[03:40] <ep> pgrep artsd gives '8426'
[03:40] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 1293 kB, Installed size: 4092 kB
[03:40] <monk> HappyFool: i think it's in gnome-control-center
[03:40] <gantc> no tiengo suerte
[03:40] <bob2> onkarshinde: very likely a winmodem
[03:40] <PPower> Driver found, Hardware found or whatever it is supposed to say if it found the hard ware and driver
[03:40] <bob2> onkarshinde: I'd guess it's a i810m
[03:40] <monk> "Enable sound server startup"
[03:41] <gantc> tu no lo sabe como se puede hacer?
[03:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> yeah, k
[03:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> what seems to be the problem then? ;<
[03:41] <HappyFool> monk: ah
[03:41] <onkarshinde> bob2: So I think it is possible to get the driver easily. Am I right?
[03:41] <Zugwrack> gante,ramiro: Ya bastante...se usa ingles aqui
[03:41] <HappyFool> monk: *cough* i kind of missed the 'sound' entry
[03:41] <bob2> onkarshinde: linux-laptops.net should have details about anything you're considering
[03:42] <HappyFool> ep: ok, try changing xmms' output to artsd
[03:42] <bob2> onkarshinde: think so, yeah; iirc slmodem stuff in multiverse will work
[03:42] <ep> i'm gonna restart kde first, ok?
[03:42] <HappyFool> ep: not sure about totem; i think you can get xine (movie player) to use artsd
[03:42] <bob2> I have the same one on my thinkpad, but I've not bothered getting it to work
[03:42] <HappyFool> ep: well, if artsd is running, it may not be needed
[03:42] <ep> ok, i think the sound test in kde was working earlier, its not now
[03:43] <gantc> hi, can somebody help me how to install dvd codecs in kaffeine?
[03:43] <PPower> Did anyone reply to my last post?
[03:43] <ep> kde control panel  i mean
[03:43] <Chillout> hi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?
[03:43] <HappyFool> ep: in that case, maybe a logout/login is in order. sorry, i didn't realize your were in kde
[03:43] <thegrok> hi all
[03:43] <Zugwrack> Hi thegrok
[03:43] <ep> brb
[03:43] <thegrok> anyone ran into problems with apt-getting azureus?
[03:43] <thegrok> hi Zugwrack
[03:44] <Zugwrack> thegrok:you running PPC?
[03:44] <gast> i switched my monitors around, and now my resolution is bugged: i can only set it to 640*480. On the other computer (also ubuntu5.04) this monitor was working in 800*600. What can I do to switch to that resultion? i tried ctrl alt + but it didnt work :/
[03:44] <bob2> gantc: #kubuntu might be able to help you better
[03:44] <thegrok> Zugwrack: nope...normal intel
[03:44] <Zugwrack> thegrok: K..thanks
[03:44] <gantc> thanks bob2
[03:44] <gast> is there some way i can let ubuntu rediscover my monitor?
[03:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> PPower, where are you stuck?
[03:45] <PPower> I do the modprobe and no light comes on. I go to the something config and it reports no AP and ESSID is off/any
[03:45] <viriatus> hi
[03:45] <viriatus> [14:39]  <viriatus> i have a problem with kopete
[03:45] <viriatus> [14:39]  <viriatus> it crashes when i enable guarddog firewall
[03:45] <viriatus> [14:41]  <viriatus> does anyone know how to resolve this?
[03:45] <PPower> My router supports 2.2 and 2.4 kernel so is should support 2.6
[03:45] <viriatus> i have kubuntu
[03:46] <ep> Ok, Test sound now is working in KDE's ctrl panel, "Test midi" does not work btw.
[03:46] <Bubbling_Zombie> ok, give me a second PPower , gonna do some searching
[03:46] <LinuxJones> viriatus, are you running any servers on your machine ?
[03:46] <ep> Looks like my programs are all configured for the wrong sound server or something?
[03:46] <PPower> To people with sound bugs: have you tried ALSA?
[03:46] <grogoreo> where is the directory of C hearder files for the Ubuntu kernel?
[03:47] <onkarshinde> viriatus: Why don't you try joining #kubuntu?
[03:47] <bob2> PPower: ubuntu uses alsa kernel drivers by defautl...
[03:47] <bob2> grogoreo: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:47] <Discipulus> I thought Ubuntu used esd by default...
[03:47] <PPower> oh! forgot. Try the alsa page for help. you may need a new version.
[03:47] <viriatus> i am in #kubuntu
[03:47] <viriatus> no servers
[03:47] <grogoreo> bob2, thanks
[03:48] <bob2> grogoreo: then they'll be in /usr/src/
[03:48] <ogott> has anyone tried to use Mathematica with ubuntu?
[03:48] <viriatus> it crashes when i connect to msn
[03:49] <viriatus> if i turn off the firewal it works normally
[03:49] <bob2> then file a bug on the program
[03:49] <bob2> crashing because some network resource is unavailable is stupid
[03:49] <Bubbling_Zombie> mmm, i'm not familiar with that card, but you could try with "ifconfig wlan0 up" PPower
[03:49] <LinuxJones> viriatus, you probably don't need the firewall
[03:50] <ogott> noone ever used mathematica?
[03:50] <viriatus> yeah, but for extra security
[03:50] <rendi> !ship
[03:50] <ubotu> rendi: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:50] <rendi> !download
[03:50] <PPower> Ill try it. I did try to use the gui tool. Im on windows no so i need to go
[03:50] <ubotu> No idea, rendi
[03:50] <ep> Ah at least zine is working for wav and ogg files now.  I don't know if tried this earlier or not.  But its working now.
[03:50] <rendi> !shipit
[03:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, shipit is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view
[03:50] <viriatus> well i am behind a router also
[03:50] <ep> err 'xine' not 'zine'
[03:51] <LinuxJones> viriatus, any service your running doesn't accept connections from the Internet by default. Firewalls aren't necessary for most Ubuntu users.
[03:52] <rendi> guy's
[03:52] <rendi> how to fix this
[03:52] <rendi> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/mozgnome.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[03:52] <viriatus> LinuxJones yeah it's not a big problem if i don't have a firewall
[03:52] <viriatus> but it's weird
[03:53] <Angel777> hello
[03:53] <rendi> any suggestion
[03:53] <Demitar> rendi, most likely to uninstall mozilla-firefox-gnome-support in the same run as you install firefox-gnome-support.
[03:53] <Angel777> I need help for installing codecs on ToteM. I tried several things that were written on the internet but none of these things work
[03:53] <LinuxJones> viriatus, it sounds odd not to have one running :)
[03:53] <bob2> rendi: complain to the backports people, it has nothing to do with ubuntu itself
[03:53] <HappyFool> ep: try configuring programs to use artsd, if possible
[03:54] <rendi> doh
[03:54] <Chillout> hi, how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear directly as drives?
[03:54] <bob2> Angel777: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats; perhaps you'd be happier using mplayer or gxine instead
[03:54] <ogott> rendi: tell apt-get to overwrite everythign
[03:54] <rendi> i do
[03:54] <bob2> ogott: no
[03:54] <bob2> get whoever made that package to fix it
[03:54] <Angel777> I tried downloading mplayer but it doesn't want. I get a lot of error message
[03:54] <ogott> bob2: why not?
[03:54] <ogott> bob2: just as a temporary fix
[03:54] <onkarshinde> Angel777: What file are you trying to play?
[03:54] <bob2> Angel777: then your sources.list is broken, get rid of the liense refering to marillat
[03:54] <bob2> er, lines
[03:55] <sexcopter8000m> hi, in ubuntu how can i adjust the screen settings? at the moment it's offset to the right a little and i lose a bit of the edge
[03:55] <ep> yeah, at least i have an idea whats going on -- thanks for the help HappyFool
[03:55] <Angel777> I try to play a divX
[03:55] <HappyFool> ep: ok, good luck
[03:55] <bob2> ogott: are you sure that overwriting that file is safe?
[03:55] <LinuxJones> sexcopter8000m, just change it using your monitor adjustments
[03:56] <onkarshinde> Angel777: Either install totem-xine or install VLC
[03:56] <sexcopter8000m> hmm, i've tried that before and it goes back to how it was when i go into windows
[03:56] <sexcopter8000m> iirc, it's been a while since i tried that
[03:56] <LinuxJones> sexcopter8000m, you have a nvidia or ati video card ?
[03:56] <ogott> bob2: well, it has something to do with the gnome support of firefox... that's nothing really critical. if it doesn't work, just remove the packages and reinstall the ones you really need
[03:56] <sexcopter8000m> ati
[03:56] <ogott> bob2: and nothing should be broken
[03:56] <cyphase> echo...
[03:57] <bob2> ogott: sure, so mention that when you tell people to overwrite things :)
[03:57] <sexcopter8000m> just done it using the monitor adjustments, we'll see if that works
[03:57] <ztonzy> hmm, got a problem, I can't add a volume-button anymore to the upper panel, any way to fix it ?
[03:57] <ogott> bob2: ok, i will in future... :/
[03:57] <onkarshinde> bob2: Does sl-modem work for all modems?
[03:57] <bob2> onkarshinde: no
[03:57] <Coopa> what's the command for mounting my xp drive?
[03:57] <Angel777> When I look for VLC in synaptic I get no answer (sorry I am very new to Linux. Just installed it yesterday)
[03:57] <PPower> I havent got my card up yet. Just to not when using iwlist wlan0 scan I get no results
[03:57] <dabaR> ztonzy: you try adding it and it does not appear?
[03:58] <ztonzy> dabaR, yes...
[03:58] <dabaR> ztonzy: tried killall gnome-panel?
[03:58] <LinuxJones> sexcopter8000m, have you installed the ATI binary drivers ?
[03:58] <onkarshinde> Coopa: Check manpage of mount. I assume the drive is ntfs
[03:58] <sexcopter8000m> no, i'm using vesa drivers actually
[03:58] <Chillout> hi there how do i make mounted ntfs partitions appear in System>> Computer?
[03:58] <ztonzy> dabaR, no...will try, will all panel dissapear ?
[03:58] <Coopa> onkarshinde: will do, and yes, it's ntfs.
[03:58] <dabaR> they aer set to respawn once killed.
[03:59] <ztonzy> nice
[03:59] <dabaR> ya, its ok...
[03:59] <ztonzy> wow
[03:59] <ztonzy> now I have like 10 such buttons :P
[03:59] <dabaR> I know, same thing here.
[03:59] <dabaR> each one that you added.:)
[04:00] <ztonzy> dabaR, thanks
[04:00] <LinuxJones> sexcopter8000m, I know my nvidia card shifts to the right when I change to the nvidia binary driver.
[04:00] <Angel777> And it says when I try to install Totem-xine that the package is either missing or too old
[04:00] <ogott> rendi: as bob2 said, it's not really that safe to overwrite the files. you can try it and if it doesn't work, uninstall the package and reinstall the ones you need. never do this with system-critcal things!
[04:01] <rendi> ups
[04:01] <rendi> i have done with that
[04:01] <sexcopter8000m> hmm, don't worry LinuxJones, I'm not worried enough to start installing new drivers
[04:01] <dabaR> Chillout: not easy,
[04:01] <dabaR> ztonzy: welcome.
[04:02] <sexcopter8000m> when i get my lappa with an nvidia graphics card i'll try to get things more perfect :)
[04:02] <ogott> rendi: you did what? overwrite the file? that's not that bad if it's working now
[04:02] <MidNightRaVeN> hey... when you have a Fat32 partition on another drive, how do you get ubuntu to recongnize it?
[04:02] <rendi> yes i overwrite
[04:02] <bob2> MidNightRaVeN: you add it to /etc/fstab
[04:02] <rendi> reinstal
[04:02] <ogott> rendi: you could unpack both .deb packages and md5sum the file in question to see if it's really the same.
[04:02] <PPower> I havent got my card up yet. Just to not when using iwlist wlan0 scan I get no results. Anyone got a F5D7000 up yet?
[04:02] <dabaR> !mountwindows
[04:02] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:02] <ogott> rendi: didn't it work?
[04:03] <Angel777> I have downloaded a codec package for Linux but I don't know where I should extract them so that totem see them
[04:03] <MidNightRaVeN> thx bob2 & dabaR!
[04:03] <dabaR> welcome.
[04:03] <sexcopter8000m> is fat32 a suitable filesystem for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?
[04:03] <sexcopter8000m> since i think both can write and read to it
[04:03] <PPower> They can. I would think so
[04:04] <onkarshinde> sexcopter8000m: Sure
[04:04] <rendi> hei wtf with this it's work, but when i'm open mozilla.org they say i have to upgrade my browser ?? what happen ??
[04:04] <sexcopter8000m> and is it reliable, efficient etc? or is it a bit inferior to others?
[04:04] <ogott> sexcopter8000m: there's captive. with that stuff you could write to an NTFS partition too
[04:04] <Magius> dangit...the touchpad still doesn't work
[04:04] <rendi>  You must upgrade to version 1.0.4 or newer
[04:04] <bob2> sexcopter8000m: it's kinda crap, but they can both read and write to it
[04:04] <rendi> i'm use 1.0.4 too
[04:05] <sexcopter8000m> i've always been told writing to ntfs is risky
[04:05] <rendi> Setting up firefox-gnome-support (1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5) ...
[04:05] <ogott> rendi: what?
[04:05] <rendi> Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...done.
[04:05] <rendi> look that ??
[04:05] <rendi> what happen
[04:05] <Malmsdoom> hiho...ich habe Probleme mit Samba und hoffe hier Hilfe zu finden :) Gibt es deutschsprachige personen, oder muss ich mein schlechtes Englisch bemhen?
[04:05] <bob2> sexcopter8000m: best to avoid it, yes
[04:05] <ogott> rendi: ok. does it still complain?
[04:05] <dabaR> rendi wants to update his firefox version number to 1.0.4.
[04:05] <ogott> Malmsdoom: was fr ein problem denn?
[04:06] <sexcopter8000m> hmm, well i have a spare 40gig partition, i might use that for fat32 so that i can copy stuff to ntfs in windows and to ext3 in ubuntu
[04:06] <rendi> i have done with that
[04:06] <dabaR> Ich keine sprechen deutch!
[04:06] <rendi> already update
[04:06] <PPower> Still need help with card!
[04:06] <dabaR> rendi, which site, the firefox extensions site?
[04:06] <rendi> but when i'm open mozilla.org they say my browser not 1.0.4 ?
[04:07] <sexcopter8000m> don't you mean 1.4.0, rendi?
[04:07] <dabaR> hehe
[04:07] <rendi> hehehe
[04:07] <dabaR> the newest is 1.0.4
[04:07] <HappyFool> !firefox
[04:07] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:07] <HappyFool> rendi: that
[04:07] <dabaR> nice
[04:07] <HappyFool> rendi: that's the workaround
[04:07] <sexcopter8000m> oh, 1.0.4, my bad
[04:07] <PPower> If anyone can help me with my network problem post here: http://forums.tuxtalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=1147#1147. Its a linux support forum
[04:07] <rendi> waityes it's mine
[04:07] <rendi> 1.0.4
[04:07] <sexcopter8000m> dunno where i got that idea from
[04:08] <rendi> i'm open this http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/upgrade/?application=firefox&id=398
[04:08] <rendi> and they say i have to upgrade
[04:08] <Malmsdoom> hmm...also ich habe beide samba daemonen ma laufen und ansonsten eine normale Freigabe gemacht ber das Men, aber die Freigabe wird einfach nich angezeigt. Statdessen bekomme ich bei der Ordnereinstellung im Men: Failed to run shares-admin:   Unterprozess endete mit dem Status 88
[04:08] <HappyFool> rendi: please read what ubotu said about firefox above
[04:08] <dabaR> rendi, please try the instructions above one more time, it is ~known to work.
[04:08] <onkarshinde> rendi: type about:config in firefox url bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[04:08] <HappyFool> rendi: you can foll mozilla into thinking you have 1.0.4
[04:08] <HappyFool> fool, even
[04:09] <dabaR> wow, even fool?
[04:09] <dabaR> :)
[04:09] <rendi> ohh
[04:09] <alloha> hi
[04:09] <ogott> Malmsdoom: ber welches men hast du eine freigabe gemacht? werden die samba daemons beim booten gestartet
[04:09] <dabaR> alloha
[04:10] <dabaR> uber das menu.
[04:10] <dabaR> das keyboard.
[04:10] <Malmsdoom> ogott: ja die laufen...meine ip wir unter netzwerk-server auch nagezeigt, aber der Inhalt ist leer
[04:11] <rendi> ohh i'm confused with this, i have go to bed now
[04:11] <rendi> nigh folks
[04:11] <dabaR> bye
[04:11] <ogott> Malmsdoom: wenn du "testparm" ausfhrst, kommt dann ein fehler oder was?
[04:11] <dabaR> keine fehler, ogott.
[04:12] <dabaR> ganz neu.
[04:12] <ogott> was?
[04:12] <dabaR> yeah, it was, but no more.
[04:12] <ogott> BRB
[04:12] <Malmsdoom> ogott: Ne scheint alles OK
[04:13] <ogott> Malmsdoom: und "smbclient -L 127.0.0.1" auf dem server zeigt die shares an?
[04:14] <nalioth> grusstig!
[04:14] <ogott> lol
[04:14] <nalioth> sorry no unlauts
[04:14] <ogott> no problem :)
[04:15] <ogott> btw: they are calld "umlaute"
[04:15] <Malmsdoom> mom
[04:15] <nalioth> ogott: i know, i just woke up and my fingers are not warmed up yet
[04:15] <spola> how do i get root to automatically execute this command: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss, everytime ubuntu starts?
[04:15] <ogott> nalioth: lol...
[04:16] <ogott> nalioth: wtf? is your dog on IRC?
[04:16] <dabaR> haha
[04:16] <nalioth> ogott: the dog is the answering machine
[04:16] <ogott> spola: you could write a init script
[04:16] <Heimdall_linux> hello
[04:16] <dabaR> nalioths_dog: woof
[04:16] <PPower> Anyone got any ideas for my card yet (as in fixing it)
[04:16] <ogott> nalioth: oh, ok, i had already quite strange fantasies... :(
[04:16] <Heimdall_linux> I have a little question
[04:16] <spola> ogott, there's no quick fix?
[04:16] <dabaR> whats the card?
[04:16] <Malmsdoom> ogott: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[04:17] <PPower> dabaR: Belkin F5D7000. Modprobe but no lights on back
[04:17] <nalioth> ogott: i run irssi, and was given a python script to answer questions in here
[04:17] <dabaR> belkin what, ethernet card?
[04:17] <ogott> Malmsdoom: hmmm... mit richtigem login?
[04:17] <Heimdall_linux> I started amule some hours ago, and now it is a little icon in the bar on the top of the screen, but I can't open the window.... is there a mean to open it without closing amule ?
[04:17] <PPower> Wireless destop network card
[04:17] <nalioth> ogott: so the dog is xchat with the python script (irssi doesnt run python)
[04:18] <dabaR> PPower: what did you try so far?
[04:18] <ogott> nalioth: nice solution
[04:18] <ogott> spola: well, just write the command in a shell script an link it to /etc/rc2.d/S99my_script
[04:18] <PPower> I have tried lots. Used the gui tool, ifconfig wlan0 up, iwconfig wlan0 essid belkin54g ap whatever it was commit
[04:19] <dabaR> Heimdall_linux: maybe it crashed, I mean, if it wont open... I had trouble with amule all over, try gtk-gnutella, if you want
[04:19] <Malmsdoom> ogott: bin normal als user eingeloggt....oder uss ich in der smb.conf speziell auch nochmal einen eintrag fr eine einfache freigabe machen?
[04:19] <dabaR> PPower: so the card is already shown in System>Admin>Networking?
[04:20] <PPower> Yes. as wlan0. But no lights on back
[04:20] <dabaR> ok, good for you.
[04:20] <ogott> Malmsdoom: ja, mit "smbpasswd" musst du benutzer hinzufgen. die normalen unix accounts gelten fr samba nicht
[04:20] <dabaR> did you check the wiki if it has your card shown?
[04:20] <PPower> Yep. I used drivers of the belkin site.
[04:20] <spola> ogott, OK! :)
[04:21] <PPower> Oh and its V1
[04:21] <LinuxJones> Guys this is an english speaking irc channel :)
[04:21] <Bryan_w> oh no
[04:21] <Chillout> dabaR:i am new to linux and also need some help with setting up my WLAN
[04:21] <Heimdall_linux> dabaR, no it is working since I see the speed of download etc...
[04:21] <Chillout> dabaR: can u help me plz?
[04:21] <dabaR> PPower: and then you followed the instructions and it does not work? I dont know wireless:)
[04:21] <dabaR> Heimdall_linux: weird, dunno.
[04:21] <PPower> Yep. No light. No scan results No AP and no essid
[04:21] <Heimdall_linux> dabaR, I see the context menu when I click on it, but when I click on "open the window" it is not openning
[04:21] <nalioth> ogott: Malmsdoom: can you move to #ubuntu-de please?
[04:21] <ogott> spola: np, just ask if you have further questions
[04:22] <ogott> nalioth: k, sorry
[04:22] <dabaR> why are you guys being stupid, so if theyu speak in german, jjust dont read their posts.
[04:22] <dabaR> thats so american of you guys:P
[04:22] <Heimdall_linux> nobody knows here ?
[04:23] <nalioth> dabaR: not my rules, i speak some german, also and don't mind a bit
[04:23] <dabaR> whose rules then?
[04:23] <dabaR> where...
[04:23] <Heimdall_linux> dabaR, maybe there is a mean in linux to force a windows to be displayed ?
[04:23] <jetflash> whats this os like?
[04:23] <HappyFool> dabaR: it's just to keep traffic in the channel down a little. there is a #ubuntu-de
[04:24] <dabaR> whatever, go to ubuntu-en, HappyFool .
[04:24] <ogott> yeah, sorry for speaking german. i know this channel isn't meant to be a multilingual one
[04:24] <LinuxJones> dabaR, there are Spanish/German etc... irc channels for a reason
[04:24] <dabaR> ogott: says who it is not?
[04:24] <dabaR> LinuxJones: oh, and there is no -en for a reason too?
[04:24] <bratsche> Hi guys.
[04:24] <Bubbling_Zombie>  'llo
[04:24] <HappyFool> dabaR: we are trying to be polite; please do not be hostile
[04:24] <dabaR> hi all.
[04:24] <ogott> dabaR: the channels name is #ubuntu, not #ubuntu-talkwhateveryoulikeinhere
[04:25] <bratsche> Has anyone reported problems of not being able to find 'kernel-image' when installing from the 5.04 CD?
[04:25] <Heimdall_linux> HappyFool, maybe you know.... how can I force a window from the little icons on the top of the screen to be openned ?
[04:25] <dabaR> Whatever, I dont see any ruile anywhrre about tha,.
[04:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> dabaR, more people know english. SO i'ts only fair that the biggest channel has english as language
[04:25] <dabaR> bah
[04:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: have you tried right clicking on the icon?
[04:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: if that doesn't work, I don't know
[04:25] <Heimdall_linux> yes it works
[04:25] <Heimdall_linux> I have the context menu
[04:25] <LinuxJones> dabaR, english is the default language for Ubuntu and the default for this irc channel. If 100 peopel were speaking different languages in here the channel would be useless.
[04:25] <mouril> #ubuntu-pt
[04:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: and does that give you any options ?
[04:25] <Heimdall_linux> but "show amule" does not work
[04:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: ah
[04:26] <dabaR> LinuxJones: says who, whio are you to say this??
[04:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall_linux: sorry, then i don't know -- sounds like it's broken
[04:26] <HappyFool> dabaR: please take this up with the channel founders
[04:26] <Heimdall_linux> but It seems that amule still working since I see the speed of the downloads
[04:26] <LinuxJones> dabaR, well, it's just common sense
[04:26] <nalioth> Heimdall_linux: you may have to kill amule
[04:26] <dabaR> you take it up with them.
[04:26] <HappyFool> dabaR: you can discuss this with seveas when he's on
[04:26] <dabaR> LinuxJones: not to me.
[04:26] <kbrooks> broken?
[04:26] <kbrooks> oh
[04:26] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth, it sounds rude... :(
[04:26] <kbrooks> n/m
[04:26] <LinuxJones> dabaR, I'll leave that one alone :)
[04:26] <dabaR> HappyFool: how about seveas has nothing to do with it...
[04:26] <PPower> Any help please?
[04:27] <vithos> #ubuntu-en: No such channel
[04:27] <kbrooks> here
[04:27] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth, no mean to force a window to be displayed ?
[04:27] <dabaR> I mean, seveas, but, I mean, if someone on the ubuntu page said that, yeah...
[04:27] <dabaR> but there is no such thing...
[04:27] <kbrooks> vithos, this is #ubuntu-en
[04:27] <dabaR> This is a free channel, I can speak whatever lang I want, I think you guys just assume too much.
[04:27] <kbrooks> dabaR, THIS IS #ubuntu-en
[04:27] <dabaR> lets conquer the ubuntu with our american mentality
[04:27] <nalioth> Heimdall_linux: if the program isnt responding using its internal commands, i know of know way to make a running program do anything
[04:28] <kbrooks> dabaR, not #ubuntu-de
[04:28] <kbrooks> but #ubuntu-en
[04:28] <Chillout> hi there need help setting up my wlan. i have a broadcom card and tried thid ndiswrapper stuff, but it wont work.
[04:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh, *sigh* dabaR
[04:28] <dabaR> kbrooks: how do you know?
[04:28] <nalioth> dabaR: this channel was founded by a south african
[04:28] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth, but it is in a way responding since I can see the menu clicking on the icon
[04:28] <kbrooks> dabaR, because everyone here speaks english
[04:28] <ogott> damn it, stop discussing that. nobody's talking german anymore anyway.
[04:28] <dabaR> I still have not seen any proof, just poeples opinion.
[04:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> english is much easier to learn then german
[04:28] <kbrooks> dabaR, proof?
[04:28] <dabaR> kbrooks: so if some started speaking de, what?
[04:28] <kbrooks> idle here please
[04:29] <dabaR> kbrooks: your proof is ridiculous
[04:29] <nalioth> Heimdall_linux: i don't know what else to tell you (about nonresponsive menus)
[04:29] <ogott> but some people are german native speakers...
[04:29] <kbrooks> ALMOST everyone here speaks english
[04:29] <kbrooks> 99.9%
[04:29] <dabaR> just because its habit, oes not mean you can tell people to go away f they do not use your habbit.
[04:29] <vithos> how do i find a repository that has rar/unrar or should i install it manually?
[04:29] <dabaR> kbrooks: I dont contest that at all.
[04:29] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth, okay... this is a pity to close amule while it is downloading...
[04:29] <LinuxJones> dabaR, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/local/view?searchterm=irc
[04:29] <nalioth> vithos: use the pkg "unrar-nonfree"
[04:29] <dabaR> I contest the making peiople go away cause they speak tghat.
[04:30] <vithos> i can't find that package
[04:30] <dabaR> ok, I will read.
[04:30] <nalioths_dog> vithos: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:30] <nalioths_dog> vithos: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:30] <PPower> dabaR: Have you thought of anything?
[04:30] <dabaR> no, I dont know that stuff.
[04:30] <nalioth> vithos: follow those instructions and you should be set
[04:30] <ArCHoNKoG> would someone know why mplayer doesn't playu avi files ?
[04:31] <PPower> dabaR: Where should I ask then?
[04:31] <kbrooks> dabaR, what is your speaking language?
[04:31] <nalioth> ArCHoNKoG: do you have all your codecs?
[04:31] <weiers> Sorry for the stupid question, but I downloaded Adobe 7 in tar.gz format. I extracted it to /home/weiers/AdobeReader and now I want to run the INSTALL script. How do I do that?
[04:31] <echylo> ubotu, what the hell are you
[04:31] <ArCHoNKoG> nalioth, from the guide site yes
[04:31] <ubotu> echylo: I think you lost me on that one
[04:31] <dabaR> LinuxJones: where does it say it is forbidden to use other languages?
[04:32] <kbrooks> echylo, a bot
[04:32] <nalioth> weiers: you need to open a terminal and go to that directory
[04:32] <echylo> I know
[04:32] <echylo> I'm just testing him
[04:32] <dabaR> kbrooks: as you can see...
[04:32] <echylo> :p
[04:32] <weiers> nalioth ... I did that
[04:32] <LinuxJones> dabaR, omg just drop it
[04:32] <jf6> hey
[04:32] <kbrooks> dabaR, you are forbidden to use other languages in the "#ubuntu-en" channel
[04:32] <nalioth> weiers: is there no README or INSTALL document in it?
[04:32] <echylo> ubotu, nvidia
[04:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <kbrooks> dabaR, only english
[04:32] <echylo> hmm
[04:32] <kbrooks> dabaR, now drop it
[04:32] <jf6> two bomb exploded at the Effeil Tower!!!!!!!
[04:33] <echylo> ?
[04:33] <weiers> nalioth... the readme says that I have to run the INSTALL Script. I type INSTALL and nothing happens
[04:33] <echylo> serious?
[04:33] <kbrooks> jf6, wtf?
[04:33] <jf6> wtf?
[04:33] <echylo> what the fuck?
[04:33] <jf6> oh nothing,
[04:33] <dabaR> kbrooks: I dont get your point, or why you think youare the authority to tell me what I am forbidden and what I am not, please explain.
[04:33] <weiers> Nalioth ... it says command not found
[04:33] <jf6> je suis juste francais et me ramene pour faire une blague
[04:33] <jf6> lol
[04:33] <PPower> dabaR: Where should I ask then?
[04:33] <dabaR> PPower: ask here.
[04:33] <HappyFool> jf6: please don't do that
[04:33] <nalioth> weiers: are you ./running ./the ./INSTALL?
[04:33] <kbrooks> dabaR, i am not the authority, but i am a ubuntu  new users mentor
[04:33] <dabaR> so?
[04:34] <jf6> HappyFool,  pourquoi donc?
[04:34] <echylo> jf6, it's absolutly not funny
[04:34] <dabaR> Even I am in that group...bah
[04:34] <PPower> WHAT THE HECK??? Sorry! Well has anyone got any help for me?
[04:34] <echylo> and speek english
[04:34] <dabaR> new3bie group...
[04:34] <kbrooks> dabaR, so i'm not the authority
[04:34] <echylo> speak*
[04:34] <jf6> not funny?
[04:34] <jf6> haha
[04:34] <HappyFool> jf6: that is extraordinarily insensitive
[04:34] <nalioth> dabaR: so act like it
[04:34] <jf6> insensitive for what?
[04:34] <weiers> ./install
[04:34] <echylo> jf6, saying there are explosions for fun
[04:34] <jf6> FOR ALL THE PEOPLE who die in all the world?
[04:34] <echylo> is no fun
[04:34] <kbrooks> nalioth, oh fuck. shall i leave for a while?
[04:34] <mantero> hi
[04:34] <dabaR> so act like yourself, you people aer sissies, just cause I dont use the same conversational style, I am not hostile, I just ask a question.
[04:34] <kbrooks> nalioth, this channel
[04:34] <nalioth> weiers: then chmod +x <install script>
[04:35] <mantero> excuse me, but today I buy a microphone but I don't know to configure it
[04:35] <nalioth> kbrooks: why not? work on the wiki or something
[04:35] <kbrooks> nalioth, i'm tired of this "language issue" :P
[04:35] <kbrooks> nalioth, ok. will do
[04:35] <kbrooks> cya
[04:35] <gm78> jf6, that wasnt very funny....it was actually quite rude
[04:35] <dabaR> but, yeah, any time I am ehre, and you guys tell omeone to take their discussion to their language channel, you will get the same thing from me, unless I see a proof that it is forbidden.
[04:35] <jf6> actually yes, but
[04:35] <Will__> It looks safe
[04:35] <echylo> Will__, lol
[04:36] <jf6> if i sayed that
[04:36] <echylo> yes
[04:36] <gm78> jf6, plus, i have relatives in france right now, so u scared the shit out of me, excuse my language
[04:36] <echylo> you got attention?
[04:36] <jf6> 1 week ago
[04:36] <nalioth> dabaR: the channels are set up to keep folks in an environment they are comfortable speakin in. if ogott and Malmsdoom are in HERE speaking german, then others in #ubuntu-de are missing out on the information they are discussing
[04:36] <jf6> your reaction were not like now
[04:36] <echylo> jf6, I don't care when you say it, say it when it happens
[04:36] <clemux> hello
[04:36] <dabaR> nalioth: I can agree with that...
[04:36] <weiers> nalioth sorry... I am sure I am just doing something strange
[04:37] <dabaR> hello, troll.
[04:37] <weiers> nalioth... I typed chmod +x install, and it seems to have done something.
[04:37] <vithos> nalioth: now that i have updated my sources.list, synaptic starts with lots of errors "couldn't stat source package list"
[04:37] <dabaR> :)
[04:37] <clemux> spiral: :p
[04:37] <spiral> clemux: shut up
[04:37] <weiers> When I typed "install" it still did not recognise the command/file
[04:37] <clemux> :p
[04:37] <nalioth> vithos you used the sources.list the dog sent you?
[04:37] <echylo> hey where is that happy ubuntu feeling gone too?
[04:37] <clemux> spiral: happy birthday :D
[04:37] <echylo> be friendly every1
[04:37] <vithos> nalioth: yes
[04:37] <dabaR> sudo aptitude update after you change sources.list.
[04:37] <nalioth> weiers: you need to type ./<name of install script>
[04:37] <dabaR> it went to ubuntu-de
[04:38] <nalioth> vithos: reload again
[04:38] <dabaR> :P
[04:38] <jf6> j'aurais dit ca une semaine avant vous n'auriez pas eu cette reaction
[04:38] <jf6> c'est ca que je veux voir
[04:38] <jf6> jusqu'ou va la reaction des gens
[04:38] <echylo> well
[04:38] <ogott> dabaR: ROFL
[04:38] <echylo> you got the reaction
[04:38] <echylo> and speak english
[04:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> tete toi :p on parle l'anglais ici :')
[04:38] <echylo> not everybody attempts to learn french
[04:39] <PPower> has anyone got any help for me?
[04:39] <kbrooks> PPower, with?
[04:39] <dabaR> PPower: state your problem, instead of that.
[04:39] <weiers> Nalioth ... thank you... it seems to work. I see you are busy, but I wish you could explain what that ./ thing means.
[04:39] <jf6> echylo ok
[04:39] <dabaR> . is current directory
[04:39] <PPower> You know dabaR. My card isnt coming on
[04:39] <nalioth> weiers: your commands in linux are in a path
[04:39] <dabaR> a shell variable.
[04:39] <jf6> but i hav a problm with french
[04:40] <jf6> english
[04:40] <jf6> lol
[04:40] <jf6> sorry
[04:40] <echylo> and I have a problem with french ;)
[04:40] <nalioth> weiers: commands not in the path have to be executed in a special way
[04:40] <echylo> sorry ;)
[04:40] <Bubbling_Zombie> lol echylo
[04:40] <echylo> I managed to get 200/400 on my exam
[04:40] <PPower> kbrooks: Card isnt coming on. Tried brining the card up and no luck. no lights coming on
[04:40] <nalioth> weiers: placing a ./  <which means "right here" in linux> tells the OS to execute that particular thing
[04:41] <nalioth> weiers: even tho its not in the path of commmand
[04:41] <weiers> nalioth before I came to this forum I saw somewhere that I could have chmod 555 or something... would that have put it into the path permanently.
[04:41] <dabaR> ./ means starting from the current directory, so in /home/yourUserName if you type in ls, ls ., or ls /home/yourUserName, or ls ~ it all works to the same thing.
[04:41] <nalioth> weiers: no it would not
[04:42] <tvo> weiers: chmod changes permissions
[04:42] <rei1nante> where can i find go back and go forward in nautilus
[04:42] <rei1nante> ?
[04:42] <DAWKIRST> I downloaded a .tar file which is a album. The entire album is one mp3 however...is there a way I can split these tracks into their respective parts? There is a file which contains this info.
[04:42] <dabaR> chmod changes permissions. 4 for read, 2 for write, and 1 for execute/browse-for dirs. you add it up to a number, and set it like, 751 where 7 is for the owner, 5 is for his group, and 1 is for all other users on the computer.
[04:43] <echylo> ^thanks didn't knew the codes
[04:43] <dabaR> rei1nante: did you try settting up nautilus to use a btrowser window?
[04:43] <nalioth> DAWKIRST: use audacity
[04:43] <dabaR> moron.
[04:43] <dabaR> anyhow.
[04:44] <nalioth> echylo: in a terminal, type "man chmood" or "man <whatever command you are curious about>" and find out lots of stuff
[04:44] <weiers> nalioth ... thanks... I won't take more of your time, but if it type "export PATH=$PATH: ./AdobeReader/ " I would probably have been able to put it there permanently?.... Anyway. I am learning slowly every day... just saw this on the website that made no sense to me before I came here.
[04:44] <echylo> nalioth, :) , thanks, but I knew that command ;)
[04:44] <kbrooks> dabaR, please dont call anyone a moron.
[04:45] <dabaR> weiers: you would have to add that line to a profile file, such as /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:45] <kbrooks> it's not very nice'
[04:45] <dk0r> Anyone know what dir I can find the "XF86Config-4" file on the ubuntu live cd? Or better yet, does anyone have a working XFree86 config for a 17" G4 Powerbook (ati)?  Cant get my display working & I think the values for my HorizSync nd VertSync parameters are incorrect.
[04:45] <dabaR> kbrooks: please stop being a nazi.
[04:45] <nalioth> weiers: depends on where you put that "export PATH" line in
[04:45] <echylo> dabaR, quit it ;)
[04:45] <kvidell> dabaR: You can leave.
[04:45] <LinuxJones> dabaR, please leave the irc channel !!
[04:45] <dabaR> you leave it.
[04:45] <dabaR> I said moron
[04:45] <LinuxJones> daniels, ping
[04:45] <dabaR> who diid I say it to, please?
[04:46] <dk0r> any help for dk0r?
[04:46] <echylo> dabaR, why are you acting that way? you trying to get attention?
[04:46] <echylo> frustrated?
[04:46] <kbrooks> dabaR, not me, but certainly you werent being nice to a ubuntu user
[04:46] <kvidell> doesn't matter, that kind of rude bahviour is not needed here.
[04:46] <dabaR> I was not talking to any of you. Please talk to yourself, or anmong each other.
[04:46] <HappyFool> dk0r: you might be looking for xorg.conf, if it's a newer cd
[04:46] <nalioth> dabaR: you didnt specify to whom you were addressing, so anyone could have mistaken your intent
[04:46] <HappyFool> dk0r: look in /etc/X11
[04:46] <dabaR> kvidell: who? how does it not matter.
[04:46] <Bubbling_Zombie> dk0r, check /etc/X11
[04:46] <echylo> dabaR, this is a channel
[04:46] <echylo> everyone talks to everyone
[04:46] <dabaR> just /ignore dabaR ppl.
[04:46] <kbrooks> gosh
[04:46] <weiers> Anyway... thanks. I am off to try out ADOBE 7
[04:46] <dabaR> if you dont like him.
[04:47] <echylo> dabaR, drop the arrogance
[04:47] <dk0r> Bubbling_Zombie: The only thing in /etc/X11 in the pcc ubuntu live cd is yaboot.conf
[04:47] <dabaR> anyhow, just dont expect responses from me anymore, ^^
[04:47] <echylo> hopeless
[04:48] <dk0r> ?
[04:48] <echylo> nvm
[04:48] <HappyFool> dk0r: i'm not that familiar with the live cd, and not at all familiar with ppc, but that sounds wrong
[04:48] <dk0r> happy_fool: fresh download from ubunut
[04:48] <HappyFool> dk0r: you have booted off the live CD and there's no config file in /etc/X11 ?
[04:48] <dk0r> no i have no booted
[04:48] <HappyFool> dk0r: ah
[04:49] <dk0r> i am viewing the iso in os x
[04:49] <nalioth> dk0r: HappyFool: ppc question? i missed it, sorry
[04:49] <dk0r> yes
[04:49] <dk0r> Anyone have a working XFree86 config for a 17" Powerbook?  Cant get my display working & I think the values for my HorizSync nd VertSync parameters are incorrect.
[04:49] <HappyFool> yay, nalioth knows :P
[04:49] <jdub> dabaR: please keep it nice
[04:49] <HappyFool> dk0r: you probably need to boot, maybe in text mode
[04:49] <dk0r> 17" powerbook G4 (ati)
[04:49] <dk0r> im running debian
[04:49] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know if there's a deb package for NetBeans 4.1 somewhere in some third-party repository, or if I'll have to install manually?
[04:49] <egi> anybody knows a good calendar and contact server to be used with evolution, etc.
[04:49] <egi> ??
[04:49] <dabaR> jdub: who are you? Please dont speak to me unless yuou have something important.
[04:49] <LinuxJones> lol
[04:49] <kvidell> lol
[04:49] <topyli> hehe
[04:49] <nalioth> dk0r: debian or ubuntu?
[04:49] <dk0r> btw: I dont know what im doing. but receiving help in #debianppc
[04:50] <dk0r> debian
[04:50] <echylo> hmm
[04:50] <kbrooks> uh, what is so funny
[04:50] <dabaR> Hikaru79: why not get it from the SDK?
[04:50] <jdub> egi: not a lot around thus far, but you might want to test hula
[04:50] <echylo> dabaR, how old are you? :)
[04:50] <kvidell> kbrooks: His audacious arrogance, I think? :-P
[04:50] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, just laughing at dabaR dissing jdub :)
[04:50] <echylo> I think I can just guess it
[04:50] <kbrooks> dk0r, ubuntu is based on debian but ubuntu isnt debian?
[04:50] <kbrooks> er, .*
[04:50] <dk0r> ok. new news to me :)
[04:50] <nalioth> dk0r: have you edited your xorg.conf or (i dont knwo the xfree86 equivelent)
[04:50] <dk0r> im new to linux
[04:50] <kbrooks> dk0r, tell the truth
[04:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> same principles. I helped a couple of ubuntu users. but i use debian. Don't flog me now :<
[04:51] <HappyFool> dk0r: i do not think the xorg.conf file will exist until you boot
[04:51] <kbrooks> dk0r, ask #debianppc if ubuntu is debian
[04:51] <jdub> Bubbling_Zombie: 'course not :)
[04:51] <Hikaru79> dabaR, from the Java SDK you mean?
[04:51] <egi> jdub, thx i'll try to find that out
[04:51] <egi> !info hula
[04:51] <ubotu> hula: (mail, calendar and contacts server hula), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 0.1.0+svn162-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[04:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> weehee \o/
[04:51] <Hikaru79> I didn't get the Netbeans-sdk bundle because i used an ubuntu package to install the SDK
[04:51] <jdub> egi: hula-project.org -> it's pre-release, but worth checking out
[04:51] <dabaR> Hikaru79: ya, there should be a netbeans install once you install the SDK, is there not?
[04:51] <dk0r> nalioth: i think so..
[04:51] <dk0r> but.. no success
[04:51] <mika> !ubotu
[04:51] <ubotu> ubotu is, like, uh...  Thaaats me!
[04:51] <dabaR> Hikaru79: ah.
[04:52] <egi> jdub, it includes a mail server?
[04:52] <dk0r> my friend who was telling me what to do said to replace the file
[04:52] <Hikaru79> I know it's easy to install manually, but if there's an ubuntu package that would be even better.
[04:52] <nalioth> dk0r: are you running xorg or xfree86?
[04:52] <egi> jdub, i already have a qmail server running
[04:52] <Hikaru79> Not because it would be easier, but because it would be easier to update, etc
[04:52] <dk0r> xfree86
[04:52] <dabaR> !netbeans
[04:52] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, dabaR
[04:52] <dabaR> !info netbeans
[04:52] <egi> jdub, can it be installed without the mail module?
[04:52] <nalioth> dk0r: did you back up your original file?
[04:52] <Hikaru79> =/ Hm. Guess not. Thanks anyway, dabaR :)
[04:52] <dk0r> original file?
[04:52] <Bubbling_Zombie> sure it's xfree? didn't they stop using that?
[04:52] <dabaR> ya, it does not exist like that.
[04:52] <kbrooks> dabaR, netbeans is non-free by definition
[04:52] <jun> hi, i am thinking using ubuntu for my mom.  i have been a long time RH user.  How long does an ubuntu release before it looses support?
[04:52] <dk0r> nalioth: im going to say no, cause i dont know what u mean
[04:53] <Hikaru79> kbrooks, it's about as free as Sun's JDK is, and that has a third-party repo for it.
[04:53] <vithos> how do i eject a cdrom? the drive seems locked
[04:53] <HappyFool> jun: 18 months for the october release. the march 2006 release will have three years support
[04:53] <nalioth> dk0r: then try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and choose the lcd option in the question sequence (lcds dont have horiz and vert refresh to my knowledge)
[04:53] <Hikaru79> I'm pretty sure that the Ubuntu Java Project has it, but ... those repos are still down :(
[04:53] <jdub> egi: no, but you don't have to use it
[04:53] <kbrooks> jun, uh. every ubuntu release is supported with 18 months
[04:53] <dabaR> Hikaru79: ya, it may be in some third party, did you look at the towers one?
[04:53] <HappyFool> jun: see here: www.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuFoundation
[04:53] <dk0r> nalioth: that the exact command? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?
[04:54] <kbrooks> dk0r, not in hoary
[04:54] <jun> thanks guys, I will look at that webpage.
[04:54] <HappyFool> jun: support means release of security patches, i believe -- i presume that is what you mean
[04:54] <kbrooks> dk0r, xserver-xorg
[04:54] <kbrooks> in hoary
[04:54] <dk0r> kbrooks: whats hoary?
[04:54] <dk0r> debian specific?
[04:54] <kbrooks> 5.04
[04:54] <dabaR> hoary the hedgehog
[04:54] <jun> HappyFool, yes. security patches.  I will be out of the country.  So I will be patching remotely.
[04:54] <kbrooks> ubuntu hoary
[04:54] <dabaR> :)
[04:54] <Bubbling_Zombie> ermn. According to the file listing the new livecds have xorg
[04:54] <Bubbling_Zombie> not xfree
[04:54] <Hikaru79> dabaR, yup. Towers is where I got j2sdk
[04:54] <dk0r> im using debian
[04:54] <ballentine> quick question for everyone - just installed and getting grub error 18?
[04:54] <dabaR> so it is not there, hey?
[04:55] <HappyFool> ballentine: i think that's a problem with older bioses and large disks
[04:55] <DAWKIRST> Any programs I can use in Ubuntu to split tracks?
[04:55] <dabaR> Hikaru79: how come netbeans, if you dont ,mind me asking, I have not tried it, I use eclipse, is Netbeans good?
[04:55] <egi> jdub, it seems that the calendar currently cannot be access by evolution client, still in the Planned stage
[04:55] <jdub> dk0r: if you're using debian, your best bet is to use debian forums for help
[04:55] <jdub> egi: yes, coming in the next few months
[04:55] <HappyFool> ballentine: you're on x86? (intel/amd) ?
[04:55] <Hikaru79> dabaR, I've tried both, and I've found I'm *much* more comfortable in NetBeans.
[04:55] <egi> jdub, cmiiw
[04:56] <Bubbling_Zombie> netbeans isn't as good as eclipse
[04:56] <Bubbling_Zombie> imho
[04:56] <dabaR> I should try it.
[04:56] <dabaR> Ill go do that now:)
[04:56] <ballentine> happyfool i guessed that much in some forums suggestes changing bios from lba to normal done that but no change
[04:56] <vithos> how do i eject a cdrom? the drive seems locked and umount says it's not mounted
[04:56] <adham> dose anyone know how to install mplayer
[04:56] <dabaR> or maybe not.
[04:56] <Hikaru79> It's had a bad rap earlier, but ever since version 4.0 was released, it's eclipsed eclipse, so to speak :P
[04:56] <terasurfer> Has anybody here heard of an allocation error from rhythmbox when an ipod is mounted?
[04:56] <Hikaru79> I'll admit Eclipse is better than NB3.6... but nothing afterwards
[04:57] <adham> hello
[04:57] <HappyFool> adham: i think the restrictedformats page on the wiki will tell you
[04:57] <dabaR> adham: add universe to your repositories, and sudo aptitude install mplayer-386 given your kernel is a 386 one
[04:57] <HappyFool> !restricted
[04:57] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <adham>  ok
[04:57] <dabaR> Hikaru79: I guess I have to try it then, I mean, eclips does the job for me, Im just a student, anyhow...
[04:57] <jun> thanks guys for the quick answers.  i will give ubuntu a try for my mom.
[04:57] <jun> bye
[04:57] <tvo> adham: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:57] <dabaR> bye
[04:58] <echylo> ubotu, mount iso
[04:58] <ubotu> echylo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:58] <kbrooks> tvo,
[04:58] <echylo> great
[04:58] <dryad> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu Hoary earlier today, and now I am experiencing a minor problem with apt. I have added the backports sources etc., and run apt-get update, and yet I am not able to fetch e.g. libmono0
[04:58] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[04:58] <echylo> how do you mount iso again?
[04:58] <kbrooks> tvo, read that please -- the link
[04:58] <HappyFool> echylo: easy way -- double click on it in nautilus
[04:58] <jdub> echylo: mount -o loop ...
[04:58] <jee> is there something similiar to Debian Unstable in Ubuntu, and if there is - where can i get it?
[04:58] <echylo> thankies
[04:59] <jdub> jee: the development branch is currently called breezy, but it's not quite like debian's unstable.
[04:59] <dabaR> dryad: I believe, that you should only have backports enabled/uncommented in your sources when you are getting something specifically from them. Otherwise, these errors happen.
[04:59] <sexcopter8000m> has anyone got a logitech webcam with ubuntu? I'm more interested in getting the microphone working to use with skype, but can't find much success
[04:59] <nnacht> Does anybody know how to configure proftpd?
[04:59] <nalioth> dk0r: you get sorted?
[04:59] <dabaR> nnacht: well, there is a config file...
[04:59] <jdub> sexcopter8000m: it has a usb audio device, have a look at /proc/asound/cards
[04:59] <jargon> which plugins do i need in order to play mp3s in Muine ? I get an "Audio backend error"
[04:59] <dabaR> nnacht: it is commented nicely, so you can know what does what.
[04:59] <jdub> sexcopter8000m: you'll have to configure skype to use a particular alsa or oss audio device, if you can
[05:00] <duckydan> Newbie question: What is the Live CD option?
[05:00] <jdub> jargon: gstreamer0.8-mad from universe
[05:00] <tvo> kbrooks: didn't know that, but it has a point. Sorry. I won't do it again :)
[05:00] <Velcan> Does Ubuntu have any special application/projects for installing nVidia drivers or should I just follow the typical Linux instructions?
[05:00] <dabaR> jargon: have you read the restrictedformats wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[05:00] <jdub> duckydan: that runs the whole OS directly from the CD without touching your hard disk, it's a little slow, but really cool for trying it out and showing new users
[05:00] <duckydan> Wow!
[05:00] <dryad> dabaR: I was recommended to uncomment them, aswell as adding a couple of others, by several guides
[05:00] <duckydan> That's cool.
[05:00] <jdub> Velcan: install nvidia-glx, there's a script in there to help you configure it
[05:00] <nalioths_dog> jargon: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[05:01] <dabaR> Velcan: read the buinarydriverhowto from wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <nnacht> dabaR: yes, I want is to allow anonymous ftp, but with a folder like "upload" with the write right.
[05:01] <nalioth> dryad: dabaR is correct, in keeping your unofficial repos enabled for daily use, your machine could become unupgradeable and nondowngradeable
[05:01] <jgmbase> #join lugradio
[05:02] <ballentine> sorry my connection dropped
[05:02] <jargon> i know about the formats , i've seen that before, if it mentioned about muine and that you needed gstreamer-mad than sorry for the stupid question, thanks guys
[05:02] <kbrooks> adham, please don't use the ubuntu guide.
[05:02] <xChillout> hi there i need help setting up WLAN with ndiswrapper. could anyone help me please?
[05:02] <jee> jdub, hmm.. so one should just use The Hoary Hedgehog, then? is it as out of date as Debian Stable?
[05:02] <jdub> jee: no, it was released in april
[05:02] <kbrooks> jee: no
[05:02] <dabaR> nnacht: go into a terminal, and type in sudo cp /etc/proftpd.conf /etc/proftpd.conf_bkp
[05:02] <dryad> nalioth: alright
[05:02] <dryad> I'll play around with it some more
[05:02] <jargon> heh
[05:03] <dabaR> nnacht: that will back it up.
[05:03] <jdub> jee: (though some packages in debian sarge are newer than those in hoary, due to our freeze dates)
[05:03] <dabaR> nnacht: after that, do sudo gedit /etc/proftpd.conf
[05:03] <nalioth> jee: hoary is not anywhere as close to boring as debian stable
[05:04] <dabaR> nnacht: in there there is a section that explains anonymous access.
[05:04] <jee> ok. i just thought that if the packages are not updated at all, but only fixed if problems occur..
[05:04] <kbrooks> nalioth, why do you like ubuntu?
[05:04] <nalioth> jee: correct, but we have a 6 month release cycle
[05:04] <nalioth> kbrooks: ease of use
[05:05] <kbrooks> heh, same here
[05:05] <jdub> jee: security and major bugfixes only for 18 months, but there's a new release every 6 -> it evens out very nicely
[05:05] <vithos> i can't eject my sATA cdrom, and umount says it's not mounted, halp
[05:05] <jee> hmm.. so i have to install Ubuntu again every 6th month?
[05:05] <Velcan> yea. i was amazed. buddy told me about it a few weeks ago.
[05:05] <dabaR> nnacht: as well, in the man page for proftpd.conf a documentation html file is referenced.
[05:05] <dabaR> nnacht: you there?
[05:05] <nalioth> jee: no you dont
[05:05] <jdub> vithos: try typing 'eject' at the command line
[05:05] <nalioth> jee: a simple text file change, and you'll automagically upgrade
[05:06] <jdub> jee: no, just stick in the next cd and upgrade, or upgrade via the internet, no reinstall required whatsoever
[05:06] <vithos> jdub: the command doesn't ever finish and doesn't do anything
[05:06] <Velcan> been using fedora for a while now ... but after installing ubuntu and having nearly everything work right off the bat i have officialy switched :)
[05:06] <dabaR> ok, later everyone
[05:06] <nalioth> kbrooks: Velcan just mentioned another reason i like ubuntu
[05:06] <jdub> vithos: h,,
[05:06] <jdub> hmm
[05:07] <kbrooks> nalioth, everything just works?
[05:07] <dryad> so nalioth, how would I install e.g. Acrobat Reader or the menu editor smeg ?
[05:07] <nalioth> vithos: do you have a paper clip?
[05:07] <Morrowyn> morning
[05:07] <nalioth> kbrooks: with ubuntu, more things work out-of-the-box then on other distros i've experienced
[05:07] <vithos> i'd rather fix the problem than force it out
[05:07] <Morrowyn> where can i adjust my ipadress in ubuntu?
[05:07] <BiSK-8> hello
[05:07] <Morrowyn> at boottime
[05:07] <xChillout> please, i need help setting up my wlan! can anyone help me?
[05:08] <nalioth> dryad: put your unofficial repos in your sources.list, and enable them just for the program you are trying for at the time. then comment them out
[05:08] <jdub> Morrowyn: System > Administration > Networking
[05:08] <jee> jdub, ok. I'm just afraid that i have to wait new versions of programs for too long. I like having the latest versions all the time ;)
[05:08] <nalioth> dryad: have you not seen xpdf?
[05:08] <dryad> no, I haven't
[05:08] <jdub> jee: you'll wait six months max, sooner if you choose to test the development releases.
[05:08] <Morrowyn> jdub,  and the file? where can i find that?
[05:09] <nalioth> dryad: there are several pdf readers freely available
[05:09] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me any good programs for burning cd's that i can get by apt-get?
[05:09] <jdub> Morrowyn: /etc/network/interfaces if you really want to
[05:09] <nalioth> BiSK-8: k3bn
[05:09] <nalioth> crap
[05:09] <nalioth> BiSK-8: k3b
[05:09] <BiSK-8> ok
[05:09] <BiSK-8> tks
[05:09] <jdub> BiSK-8: your file manager can burn data CDs straight out of the box
[05:09] <dabaR> nalioth: did you say I am crap;)
[05:09] <Morrowyn> ok, thanks
[05:09] <jee> jdub, but Breezy shouldn't be used? (that's what the topic says)
[05:09] <dryad> anyway nalioth, I thought that by adding universe, multiverse hoary-extras, I would be able to install things like flashplayer-mozilla, smeg and so on - but it isn't capable of finding the packages
[05:09] <BiSK-8> i want something that can burn iso
[05:09] <nalioth> jdub: he said 'good' program :P
[05:09] <Morrowyn> im more comfy with editing files :P
[05:09] <jdub> BiSK-8: right click on the iso :-)
[05:10] <jdub> nalioth: n-c-b is tops.
[05:10] <nalioth> jee: breezy is under heavy development, you wouldnt be 'using' it, you'd be 'testing' it
[05:10] <BiSK-8> ok
[05:10] <BiSK-8> thanks
[05:10] <vithos> lol, i also can't ^C `eject`
[05:10] <kbrooks> nalioth, how long have you been on ubuntu?
[05:10] <deviant> can anyone pls tell mw how can i install a pacth to UT2004 linux version ?
[05:10] <xChillout> can anyone help me with my wlan please?
[05:10] <kbrooks> vithos, eject isnt atomic
[05:10] <jee> nalioth, there's nothing between hoary and breezy then?
[05:10] <nalioth> vithos: do you have a paper clip?
[05:10] <jdub> jee: if you feel comfortable using a system for which major components may break at any time, and you don't need much help fixing things up or reporting/investigating bugs, go for it
[05:10] <nalioth> jee: i dont understand?
[05:10] <mouril> y need same help, sam speek portugues??
[05:10] <nalioth> kbrooks: since early warty
[05:11] <jee> er.. i mean, in Debian there's Stable, Testing and Unstable
[05:11] <kbrooks> nalioth, well, between 0 and warty, there have been live cds
[05:11] <vithos> nalioth: yes i have a paper clip, but if there is no software solution i will just reboot and eject it outside of ubuntu
[05:11] <kbrooks> nalioth, er, i misread
[05:11] <BiSK-8> when i right click the iso it sais write to disk. Disk means hard disk or cdrom?
[05:11] <kbrooks> nalioth, disregard
[05:11] <kbrooks> ;)
[05:11] <vithos> is there nothing i can do otherwise?
[05:11] <jdub> jee: ubuntu has release and development branches
[05:11] <nalioth> whats the portugese channel?
[05:11] <kbrooks> jee, nothing except live cd releases
[05:11] <Hieronymus> !portugese
[05:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: No idea
[05:11] <nalioth> whats the portugese channel for mouril ?
[05:11] <dabaR> -pg someone said
[05:11] <jdub> jee: there are two stable releases at the moment, warty and hoary, and the development branch is called breezy
[05:11] <android> does anyone have a mozilla-mplayer that works?
[05:12] <nalioth> mouril: en #ubuntu-pg
[05:12] <BiSK-8> when i right click the iso it sais write to disk. Disk means hard disk or cdrom?
[05:12] <kbrooks> stable means 'not changing'
[05:12] <nalioth> BiSK-8: cd
[05:12] <kbrooks> cdrom
[05:12] <BiSK-8> ok
[05:12] <dabaR> compact onel
[05:12] <BiSK-8> and another question: can i make a playlist with totem?
[05:12] <mouril> but in channel portugues here are in betch
[05:12] <kbrooks> BiSK-8, a tenmporary dir is created
[05:12] <jdub> jee: our development and release process is quite different to debian's
[05:13] <mouril> no  bary anser
[05:13] <nalioth> mouril: well ask in here, and we'll try to help
[05:13] <deviant> can anyone pls tell me how can i install a pacth to UT2004 linux version ?
[05:13] <gm78> Does anyone know what is a really good FTP server that is easy to set up for Ubuntu?
[05:13] <smoot> how do i remove arabic fonts from my system? I don't want to have terrorist fonts on my pc
[05:13] <Lathiat> gm78: proftpd
[05:13] <jee> jdub, ok. i guess i'll go with hoary then, but keep debian unstable back. thanks for you all for answering my stupid questions :)
[05:13] <kbrooks> jdub, did ubuntu release live cds? Array-* cds?
[05:14] <Hieronymus> smoot: don't be so rude
[05:14] <jdub> gm78: vsftpd is the supported ftp daemon
[05:14] <Hieronymus> !conduct
[05:14] <ivoks> is there any app that could control CD player, without using soundcard (wich I don't have)?
[05:14] <ubotu> methinks conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[05:14] <nalioth> smoot: be polite, please
[05:14] <gm78> Lathiat, i checked that one in synaptic, doesnt look like it is in main, i would prefer something supported with security updates
[05:14] <Lathiat> gm78: Thats not very nice, arabics are not all terrorists
[05:14] <smoot> Hieronymus: better rude than blowing up innocent people
[05:14] <dabaR> haha
[05:14] <jdub> kbrooks: livecds are built for the testing branch
[05:14] <dabaR> nice.
[05:14] <ivoks> gm78: vsftpd is the best
[05:14] <kbrooks> jdub, uh, not debian
[05:14] <gm78> Lathiat, ummmm, think u got the wrong guy there
[05:15] <jdub> kbrooks: i'm not talking about debian
[05:15] <Lathiat> gm78: yeh, vsftpd works, and thats in main
[05:15] <dabaR> ya gm78 how could you say that;)
[05:15] <Lathiat> gm78: erghh
[05:15] <Lathiat> gm78: my appologies
[05:15] <LinuxJones> smoot, please take your useless banter elsewhere
[05:15] <gm78> Lathiat, lol, thats alright
[05:15] <deviant> anyone ?
[05:15] <jdub> deviant: probably best to ask in a UT-oriented forum
[05:15] <dabaR> let me teach all you people directing others how to act something. Ignoring is the most useful parenting technique when you child is misbehaving.
[05:15] <smoot> i'm just upset that ubuntu installed all those fonts which i think no proud westerner would have any use for on my system. what's the point?
[05:15] <dabaR> please apply to the pertinent situation.
[05:16] <Lathiat> smoot: you, don't be rude and offensive to other cultures, just because some unsavoury people decide to do things whcih are not good, it does not make all of their people bad people.
[05:16] <kbrooks> smoot, be nice, you should really leave
[05:16] <nalioth> smoot: open synaptic and search for 'font' in 'package name and contents' and have fun
[05:16] <ivoks> smoot: get a life and move out od USA/GB
[05:16] <LinuxJones> smoot, because Ubuntu supports multiple languages not just English
[05:16] <Doomgaze`> ignore the troll please
[05:16] <kbrooks> ivoks, be nice
[05:16] <dabaR> kbrooks: stop telling people to leave, man.
[05:16] <dabaR> ya, dont they know that, Doomgaze` ?
[05:16] <ivoks> kbrooks: ;)
[05:16] <kbrooks> dabaR, .....
[05:16] <mouril> i have 1 disk wid a windows xp and the disk is sata in secund disk i have a ubuntu in boot end y try to windows the grun erro
[05:16] <smoot> nalioth: okay
[05:16] <Lathiat> dabaR: well, he should ;p
[05:16] <gm78> Lathiat, would u say proftpd is easier to set up? i can always compile the latest version of their are security holes in the one in universe?
[05:16] <kbrooks> dabaR, i should
[05:16] <Lathiat> gm78: well, it just works (tm)
[05:17] <Lathiat> gm78: but, if you want main (which is a good idea)
[05:17] <Lathiat> gm78: vsftpd would be the way to go
[05:17] <jdub> dabaR: we actively promote good behaviour here; ignoring people doesn't ensure we have a positive community.
[05:17] <Hikaru79> What /etc/fstab line would I use to mount my /dev/hda1 drive which is an NTFS-formatted Windows partition, if I want all users to have read access to it, not just root (sudo)?
[05:17] <Lathiat> gm78: no experience in setting that up however
[05:17] <nalioth> mouril: what is the grub error?
[05:17] <Lathiat> Hikaru79: the magic option you want is...
[05:17] <Hikaru79> Lathiat, do tell :D
[05:17] <kbrooks> jdub, that is what happens to #debian
[05:17] <Hieronymus> Hikaru79: it's in the wiki somewhere
[05:17] <Lathiat> Hikaru79: hangon, finding it
[05:17] <nalioth> Hikaru79: have you seen the mount script?
[05:17] <Hieronymus> !mountwindows
[05:17] <ubotu> hmm... mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:18] <kbrooks> jdub, which is why people using debian come here
[05:18] <Hikaru79> Ah, thanks guys!
[05:18] <Lathiat> Hikaru79: :)
[05:18] <gm78> Lathiat, alright, hopefully there are some good docs out there for vsftpd....im not very good at setting server stuff up
[05:18] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[05:18] <jdub> kbrooks: we don't need to express it in that light, though
[05:18] <Lathiat> gm78: in theory, for just ftping as a user, it should work out of th ebox
[05:18] <dabaR> gm78: usually docs install with the pr4ogram
[05:18] <dabaR> read the man page to see referenced files at the bottom.
[05:18] <Hikaru79> Will the line:  /dev/hda1                    /mnt/win2k              ntfs            ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0       give read access to ALL users or only root?
[05:18] <dabaR> Lathiat: ?
[05:18] <Lathiat> Hikaru79: no, that gives it to one u ser only
[05:19] <dabaR> Lathiat: I get it, n,.
[05:19] <dabaR> nm
[05:19] <Lathiat> Hikaru79: what you want is a umask, 022 i think, altho that may cause problems
[05:19] <Hikaru79> What sort of problems? :S
[05:19] <gm78> Lathiat, dabaR, alright. will do. also, this ftp server is going to only be run occasionally from a desktop (mainly if i need to transfer a very large file to someone), most daemons seem to set themselves up to load at system boot, will making the script in /etc/init.d/ non executable make it not load at boot?
[05:19] <dabaR> gm78: the thing is that proftp, and any ftop server, does not use encryption, so your password travells not encripted, for anyone to see.
[05:20] <dabaR> sftp on the other hand which is what vsftpd is, has encryption,
[05:20] <gm78> dabaR, that shouldnt be a problem, i probably wouldnt set up passwords, as it will only be in temporary use (see above comment)
[05:20] <nalioth> gm78: if you want secure ftp, use openssh-server
[05:20] <dabaR> :)
[05:20] <Lathiat> gm78: using SSH with SCP/SFTP woudl probably be better in that situation
[05:20] <nalioth> gm78: but security is a good practice
[05:21] <dabaR> gm78: to log into a server, you have to have a user name and a password, no other way.
[05:21] <nalioth> gm78: whether on your home network or the WAN
[05:21] <kbrooks> gm78, yes, making the script non executable will disable it
[05:21] <dabaR> yoyu mean internet hey?
[05:22] <ivoks> dabaR: there is other way :)
[05:22] <dabaR> ivoks: how? anonymous? it is still a user name..
[05:22] <ivoks> dabaR: nope, real username, without password
[05:22] <kbrooks> true
[05:22] <nalioth> dabaR: but users loggin in 'anonymous' have very little priveleges
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[05:22] <gm78> Alright, will ssh work if say a friend downloads a file using internet explorer or firefox? Like I don't want them to have to learn how to use ssh (hell, i barely know how to use it) just to download the file.
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[05:23] <ivoks> dabaR: that's even better way than username/password
[05:23] <kbrooks> an ad!
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[05:23] <dbw> omg
[05:23] <HiddenWolf> STOP SPAMMING
[05:23] <jee> oh, i have one more question. there's no minimalistic cd's for installing that downloads everything from the internet?
[05:23] <dabaR> gm78: it may give you an option to run vsftpd as part of init or standalone, choose init.
[05:23] <kbrooks> HiddenWolf, drop the caps
[05:23] <kbrooks> jackk, stopped?
[05:23] <gm78> dabaR, alright, will do :)
[05:23] <dabaR> kbrooks: stop the nazi, please.
[05:23] <kbrooks> jackk, why are you advertising a channel?
[05:23] <dbw> say, is anyone here a freenode staffer?
[05:23] <kbrooks> grrr
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[05:24] <dabaR> haha
[05:24] <ivoks> ok...
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[05:24] <HiddenWolf> kbrooks, caps are shouting, and I consider shouting to a spammer quite justified.
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[05:24] <dabaR> wow, its the ew turkish team!!
[05:24] <dabaR> lets all go join
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[05:24] <Lathiat> ffs
[05:24] <dbw> omfg
[05:24] <Bubbling_Zombie> but i'm not turkish !
[05:24] <Bubbling_Zombie> xD
[05:24] <dabaR> jackk: thank you so much for telling us about this.
[05:24] <ed1t> yo
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[05:24] <ed1t> wat the fucj
[05:24] <ed1t> fuck*
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[05:24] <Lathiat> hangon, i'm trying to chase someone up
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[05:24] <DJ_Mirage> isnt there any protection from Services ? :|
[05:24] <action09_> jackk  go out dumb  flooder
[05:24] <ivoks> yeah turkey all the way
[05:25] <kbrooks> omfg
[05:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> if we're very lucky he'll outflood himself
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[05:25] <action09_> lol Bubbling_Zombie
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[05:25] <cajun> how can i force quit an unresponding program?
[05:25] <ed1t> there are no ops around?
[05:25] <Hikaru79> w00t. I got it, guys. Thanks :)
[05:25] <gm78> cajun killall processname
[05:25] <ogott> cajun: kill
[05:25] <action09_> cajun  killall  the_programm
[05:25] <Hikaru79> cajun, killall *programname*
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[05:25] <dabaR> killall jackk.
[05:25] <cajun> k
[05:25] <Hikaru79> Hehe
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[05:25] <action09_> da ;)
[05:25] <cajun> how woudl i try to reactivate it?
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[05:25] <gm78> dabaR, lol
[05:25] <action09_> dabaR :)
[05:25] <cajun> is that possible?
[05:25] <ogott> cajun: or if its a graphical prog: xkill and click it
[05:25] <Morrowyn> someone kickban this guy
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[05:25] <gm78> cajun, kill it and then relaunch it
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[05:26] <jackk> #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team
[05:26] <kvidell> turkish linux?
[05:26] <ogott> damn it, is there no op?
[05:26] <cajun> i've got a GUi....do i type xkill in terminal/
[05:26] <Lathiat> thanks fabbione
[05:26] <kbrooks> wtf
[05:26] <ogott> thanks
[05:26] <kbrooks> fabbione, who is joh?
[05:26] <dbw> fabbione: wrong guy
[05:26] <Morrowyn> ok, ignored the guy
[05:26] <phenomeno> i need some help (again) when i start a game it is in an other resolution than my desktop and when i close the game the my dekstop is fucked up, anyone wants to help me?
[05:26] <jackk> #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team
[05:26] <gm78> fabbione, u kicked and banned the wrong person
[05:26] <Lathiat> heh
[05:26] <Lathiat> oops
[05:26] <phenomeno> lol :)
[05:26] <Bubbling_Zombie> :')
[05:27] <ogott> cajun: you can hit Alt+F2 or run "xkill" in the konsole
[05:27] <dryad> is it possible to install the non-amd64 version on an amd64-based system?
[05:27] <phenomeno> i need some help (again) when i start a game it is in an other resolution than my desktop and when i close the game the my dekstop is fucked up, anyone wants to help me?
[05:27] <fabbione> gm78, kbrooks: he was already banned according to my client...
[05:27] <ogott> cajun: but be aware: the next thing you click is dead
[05:27] <fabbione> gm78, kbrooks: that's why he got kicked
[05:27] <nalioth> dryad: yes it is
[05:27] <ogott> cajun: so don't click your desktop or so...
[05:27] <gm78> dryad, yep, amd64 is compatable with x86
[05:27] <dryad> alright - then I'm off for a reinstall
[05:28] <cajun> k
[05:28] <cajun> got it
[05:28] <cajun> thx
[05:28] <kbrooks> phenomeno, dont repeat
[05:28] <spola> anyone knows of a place where i can download free/short movies in lots of diffrent codecs (to test mplayer) ?
[05:28] <duckydan> Anyone run ubuntu under Virtual PC on the Mac?
[05:28] <gm78> Lathiat, kbrooks, dabaR, anyways, thanks for your guys' help with the ftp questions :)
[05:29] <dabaR> welcome
[05:29] <dabaR> how come dryad?
[05:29] <dabaR> oh, I see, nm
[05:29] <kbrooks> phenomeno, maybe system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[05:29] <Bubbling_Zombie> bbiab
[05:29] <dryad> dabaR: the amd64-version seems to cause too much troubles
[05:29] <dabaR> yaya, I got it, tahnks.
[05:30] <dabaR> latrer
[05:30] <dryad> just the fact, that I'm not able to install things like flashplayer-mozilla
[05:30] <phenomeno> i got an error when i do that something about xrandr
[05:30] <jcoxon> duckydan, a while back yes - now i run it full time
[05:30] <gm78> dryad, u can always download the 32 bit version of firefox from mozilla.org
[05:30] <duckydan> member:jcoxon
[05:30] <gm78> dryad, and then 32 bit plugins will work with it
[05:30] <nybble> hey
[05:30] <nalioth> dryad: lots of users run i686 for that very reason on their amd64 boxen
[05:30] <duckydan> jcoxon: thanks
[05:30] <nybble> can anyone give me a hand with printer sharing and ubuntu
[05:31] <nybble> ?
[05:31] <dryad> gm78: yes - thats one thing... but what about app X and Y ?
[05:31] <phenomeno> is there a command to change your resolution in a console
[05:31] <dryad> I want a system that just works
[05:31] <gm78> dryad, depends....which apps are you having trouble with?
[05:31] <scott> Keyboard Shortcuts: Anyone know how to create a shortcut key to launch totem?
[05:31] <dryad> well, I've found acroread aswell, that I'm not able to install
[05:31] <dryad> and Mono
[05:32] <gm78> dryad, ah, yeah, those u will have trouble with, damn proprietary software (well, not mono, but yeah)
[05:32] <nybble> Printer Sharing: Anyone know how to fix cups so i can print across the network?
[05:32] <dryad> heh yea
[05:32] <dryad> if I had just known this before I downloaded the amd64 iso :/
[05:32] <nalioth> dryad: go with i686, it'll work so much better (in a usability way)
[05:32] <dryad> oh well, nothing to do about that.
[05:32] <dryad> nalioth: already started the download :)
[05:32] <derekvance> i need hrlp
[05:33] <Melly> I'm missing my 2nd hdd, i want 2 know how 2 mount it
[05:33] <gm78> What I don't understand is how does openoffice.org work on amd64 ubuntu? i thought apt didn't support multi-arch libraries?
[05:33] <gm78> (thinking of buying a Sun amd64 workstation)
[05:33] <derekvance> i want to get xmms and it doesnt exist when i use apt get, what is the server update command?
[05:33] <gm78> derekvance, sudo apt-get update
[05:33] <zetor> hi all!
[05:34] <gm78> zetor, hey!
[05:34] <derekvance> thank you
[05:34] <dryad> gm78: get an Intel based system instead - I have regretted that I bought this amd64 instead of my old p4
[05:34] <Melly> btw hi
[05:34] <gm78> derekvance, you're welcome
[05:34] <derekvance> found it
[05:34] <derekvance> yay
[05:34] <nalioths_dog> Melly: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[05:34] <derekvance> thank you all
[05:34] <gm78> dryad, i do want an amd64 tho, it leaves me the option in the future when it is better supported
[05:34] <Melly> thanks
[05:35] <nalioth> dryad: you'll enjoy your amd64 when linux comes of age for it
[05:35] <nybble> heh, anyone have any ideas on fixing cups?
[05:35] <deviant> is there any way to install D3D drivers for a ati radeon 9600 card on ubuntu ?
[05:35] <gm78> dryad, i can always run x86 on it anyways
[05:35] <dryad> nalioth: perhaps
[05:35] <gm78> dryad, plus it is a good system from a good vendor for a good price
[05:35] <eruin> deviant, D3D doesnt exist on linux
[05:35] <dryad> alright
[05:35] <nalioth> dryad: i'm fixin to build a dual-proc amd64 box (and already see the mountain i will climb for linux support)
[05:36] <nalioth> deviant: you'll have to run wine or cededga-cvs
[05:36] <deviant> eruin: so i can use only OpenGl to play games?
[05:36] <nybble> right
[05:36] <gm78> nalioth, i heard the actual OS support is pretty good, its just mainly proprietary software like flash that is a pain
[05:36] <nybble> deviant: right
[05:36] <eruin> deviant, unless you want to pay for d3d; http://www.transgaming.org
[05:36] <nalioth> deviant: opengl, sdl, i think there are other libs for games
[05:36] <gm78> deviant, directx is proprietary software, microsoft only has versions for windows
[05:37] <nalioth> gm78: there are a few nags in OS support, but not insurmountable (but i like flash and such, and that doesnt work all all on PPC)
[05:37] <gm78> nalioth, amd64 u mean?
[05:37] <kvidell> s 3
[05:37] <kbrooks> insurmountable?
[05:38] <nalioth> gm78: yes OS support for amd64 arch falls behind x86 (as does PPC)
[05:38] <deviant> eruin: i have cedega installed, but i`ve installed the linux version of Ut2004, so it won`t run with cedega. u think that if i install the windows version, and run it with cedega, i`ll have better performance?
[05:38] <nalioth> kbrooks: i dont forsee a problem when i build a amd64 box
[05:38] <gm78> nalioth, i always heard the system itself is fairly smooth riding, for getting it installed and such.....hmmmm, ill have to look it up further before buying i guess
[05:38] <nalioth> deviant: what have you go to lose?
[05:39] <deviant> nalioth: abot 20 minutes of installation :D it has 6 cd`s afterall :)
[05:39] <nalioth> gm78: i have found that for amd64 and ppc, the binary support isnt quite to the level of x86
[05:39] <nalioth> gm78: i've had to build (with apt) several pkgs that are available as binaries for x86
[05:39] <gm78> deviant, ur always going to have problems with ati cards, its a fact of linux life, my nvidia works really good, they have awesome opengl support
[05:39] <Tomcat_> A friend of mine has his userhome on a FAT drive... now X won't log in because it can't lock ~/.ICEauthority ... any suggestions?
[05:40] <gm78> nalioth, oh, ok. i was talking about the Operating system itself, like the kernel and gcc and such. all that is pretty stable, right?
[05:40] <deviant> gm78: so i`ve heard. but when i bought my ati card i didn`t thought i`ll play UT on linux :D
[05:40] <Hikaru79> Is it safe to have multiple versions of gcc installed? Can I get gcc-3.3 package, as well as gcc-4.0 package? Is there any program like Gentoo's "gcc-config" that lets you switch back and forth between the two?
[05:40] <eruin> deviant, the linux version should run on opengl
[05:40] <kbrooks> TokenBad, thaats the problem
[05:40] <nalioth> Tomcat_: its a known problem, log in on the failsafe terminal, log in and delete the .ICEauthority
[05:40] <nalioth> Tomcat_: then log back in to the gui, and you should be fine
[05:40] <eruin> running it through cedega is guaranteed to give you less performance
[05:40] <nalioth> gm78: i'm sure it is
[05:41] <eruin> and yes, ati support sucks atm, too bad most decent laptops ship with them
[05:41] <deviant> eruin: the linux version indeed runs on opengl. but if i install the windows on and run it with cedega, will i have D3D suport?
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[05:41] <gm78> nalioth, lol, couldnt be much worse than when i first started with x86 linux and knew absolutely nothing
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[05:41] <gm78> oh dear lord
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[05:41] <eruin> deviant, yes ;)
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[05:41] <gm78> deviant, cedege is hit and miss though
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[05:41] <Hikaru79> scrool, stop *doing* that!
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[05:42] <Hikaru79> >:(
[05:42] <nalioth> fabbione: can you put your boots on again?
[05:42] <krall> #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team
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[05:42] <gm78> scrool, i very highly doubt people are actually going to go to the room
[05:42] <Hikaru79> daniels, fabbione can you kick krall and scrool?
[05:42] <Will__> gm78: I did. It's exciting
[05:42] <Hikaru79> They're spamming >.<
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[05:42] <Hikaru79> w00t! =D
[05:42] <Hikaru79> fabbione, to the rescue!
[05:42] <deviant> lol
[05:42] <deviant> that`s so gay
[05:42] <hemppa> i try to install libpng-dev package with apt, but apt give me error that "MD5Sum didn't match".
[05:42] <gm78> Will__, lol, why is that?
[05:42] <fabbione> anymore?
[05:43] <gm78> hemppa, u using the us servers
[05:43] <gm78> fabbione, i think u got them all
[05:43] <Hikaru79> hemppa, delete the .deb of that package from /etc/apt/cache and try again.
[05:43] <Will__> gm78: It isn't really
[05:43] <nalioth> fabbione: hang out, i'm sure there will be
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[05:43] <Hikaru79> Hahaha.
[05:43] <kbrooks> lol
[05:43] <Hikaru79> Oh
[05:43] <Hikaru79> Damnit
[05:43] <Hikaru79> :(
[05:43] <kbrooks> ge flooded out
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[05:43] <kbrooks> he*
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[05:43] <Hikaru79> But he's back
[05:43] <hemppa> ok, yes there is us servers in sources
[05:43] <HappyFool> hm
[05:43] <hemppa> thanks
[05:44] <Hikaru79> * fabbione removes channel operator status from scrool  <--- He had ops? O_o;
[05:44] <HappyFool> are they trying to discredit #fazlamesai, or what?
[05:44] <nalioth> Hikaru79: yes, scary eh?
[05:44] <fabbione> Hikaru79: nah that happens automatically..
[05:44] <nalioth> heh heh
[05:44] <Hikaru79> Ah, I see ^_^;
[05:44] <kbrooks> Hikaru79, in thoery, you can have multiple versions of gcc installed
[05:44] <gm78> lol, who spams a char room??? dear lord...like seriously, get a life
[05:45] <gm78> *chat
[05:45] <kbrooks> gm78, this isnt a "chat room".
[05:45] <gm78> kbrooks, lol, u know what i mean
[05:45] <HappyFool> we prefer 'conversation atrium'
[05:45] <kbrooks> :P
[05:45] <gm78> lol
[05:45] <Will__> 'Mad house'
[05:46] <nybble> lol
[05:46] <Hikaru79> kbrooks, and how would I switch system compilers?
[05:50] <gm78> Hikaru79, is there any reason u want to use gcc4.0? i heard at this point it doesnt really have any advantages over gcc-3.x? i heard 4.1 is where things will get a lot better, of course i could be way off-base here
[05:50] <raven3x7> hello
[05:50] <gm78> raven3x7, hey
[05:51] <Velcan> can someone briefly explain to me about ubuntus package installer. i'm use to fedora using yum
[05:51] <HappyFool> Velcan: there's lots on the wiki about it
[05:51] <HappyFool> !apt
[05:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[05:51] <Velcan> thanks
[05:51] <HappyFool> Velcan: you can start there
[05:51] <gm78> Velcan, open a private chat with me, i use both daily
[05:51] <gm78> Velcan, i can give u the rundown
[05:52] <nalioth> Hikaru79: you can go to the gcc website and find instructions on how to use it
[05:52] <BiSK-8>  can i make a playlist with totem?
[05:52] <nalioth> Velcan: go to System > Admin > synaptic package manager
[05:53] <Hikaru79> gm78, the main reason is, openoffice.org2 has gcc-4.0 as a dependency, but I already have 3.3 installed
[05:53] <Hikaru79> And I'm just curious if there's going to be problems there
[05:53] <kbrooks> gm78, pms arent encouraged
[05:54] <nalioth> Hikaru79: go check the gcc website
[05:54] <Hikaru79> nalioth, good idea.
[05:54] <zukalk> when i booted Ubuntu today it gave me an error about HAL when i logged in, and now i can see my drives in the desktop (those in /media)
[05:54] <gm78> kbrooks, sorry, didnt figure u wanted me to give a huge rundown of apt when everyone knows how to use it
[05:54] <zukalk> http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6271/scrn4yx.png
[05:55] <zukalk> any idea why?
[05:57] <BiSK-8>  is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?
[05:57] <nalioth> zukalk: is that not acceptable to have your drives on your desktop?
[05:57] <spanglesontoast> can i use lfs with ubuntu?
[05:58] <zukalk> nalioth, it is. but it's never happened before
[05:58] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: linux from scratch?
[05:58] <zukalk> nalioth, i was just looking for an explanation
[05:58] <nalioth> zukalk: HAL is hardware abstraction layer, iirc, but i have no clue why its error would cause your HDs to show up on desktop
[05:59] <zukalk> nalioth, weird
[05:59] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: if it is linux from scratch you are speaking of, then yes, you can start your lfs project from ubuntu
[05:59] <BiSK-8>  is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?
[05:59] <BiSK-8>  is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?
[05:59] <BiSK-8>  is it possibile 2 make a playlist with totem?
[06:00] <zukalk> BiSK-8, we heard it the first time
[06:00] <BiSK-8> :D
[06:00] <zukalk> no need to flood the channel
[06:00] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn, cya
[06:00] <BiSK-8> didt seem like it
[06:00] <kbrooks> BiSK-8, we saw it
[06:00] <GigaClon> !rpm
[06:00] <ubotu> GigaClon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:01] <BiSK-8> well if u all saw it:::::::can ya?
[06:02] <kbrooks> GigaClon, ?
[06:02] <GigaClon> nm
[06:03] <pax> !alien
[06:03] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:04] <zukalk> "is, like"? what's with these bots?
[06:04] <apokryphos> zukalk: I think they're trying to humanise them ;-)
[06:04] <pax> he's Paris Hilton's type
[06:04] <zukalk> apokryphos, good job then ;)
[06:06] <apokryphos> pax: I think he'd go for something more like ChangServ
[06:06] <sexcopter8000m> what should i use to handle .rar files?
[06:06] <pax> anyone can feed the bot, so 'is, like' is meant to imply that the information could be right/wrong or else.
[06:06] <gm78> sexcopter8000m, if im not mistaken, double click on them in nautilus and file-roller should open them fine
[06:06] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: rar
[06:06] <HappyFool> sexcopter8000m: unrar and unrar-nonfree
[06:07] <gm78> sexcopter8000m, yeah, those should work too
[06:08] <sexcopter8000m> if i double click it, it brings up archive manager which says archive type not supported.
[06:08] <sexcopter8000m> is rar an actual programme?
[06:08] <topyli> gm78: actually, only rar works for rar. file-roller uses it too :)
[06:09] <topyli> sexcopter8000m: yes
[06:09] <zth_> what do i add to proftpd.conf to lock ppl to their homedirs?
[06:09] <GigaClon> ok this is weird, I was running a python game, and it couldn't find a audio device
[06:10] <sexcopter8000m> in synaptic i can only find unrar, which is says doesn't support rar 3 format =s
[06:10] <GigaClon> but sound works fine in everthing else
[06:10] <sexcopter8000m> let me try this unrar
[06:11] <HappyFool> sexcopter8000m: i believe unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[06:11] <HappyFool> !repositories
[06:11] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:11] <Geoffrian> Can someone tell me how to copy a dir or files to another dir???????????????????
[06:11] <HappyFool> you may find that url of use
[06:11] <Geoffrian> I can only copy one file at a time on command line.
[06:11] <HappyFool> Geoffrian: are you running standard ubuntu 5.04 ?
[06:11] <Geoffrian> Yes
[06:11] <sexcopter8000m> but does nonfree mean what i think it does?
[06:11] <HappyFool> Geoffrian: have you considered using nautilus?
[06:11] <Geoffrian> Not sure how to use the cp command
[06:12] <carl> cp -a
[06:12] <HappyFool> sexcopter8000m: it refers to the 'liberty' of the software, not the price
[06:12] <Geoffrian> -a copies all files in a dir?
[06:12] <HappyFool> Geoffrian: otherwise, use 'cp *.txt destdir/'
[06:12] <carl> yes
[06:12] <Whistler> can anybody recommend me video player?
[06:12] <carl> and preserves file permissions
[06:12] <sexcopter8000m> k
[06:12] <Whistler> dont recommen totem ir mplayer
[06:12] <carl> oh wait.. just files, or dirs too?
[06:13] <Geoffrian> This was what I types: cp /usr/src/packages/ /mnt/lfs/packages
[06:13] <Geoffrian> It said it was ommitting /usr/src/packages.......
[06:13] <carl> Geoffrian, do you want to copy or move?
[06:13] <Geoffrian> BUT if I were to copy each file one by one it would work, curious why.
[06:13] <Geoffrian> Copy.
[06:14] <carl> Geoffrian, I have a feeling you want the same thing but cp -a
[06:14] <Geoffrian> Ok, I'll try.
[06:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just a question can k3b burn .iso images?
[06:14] <carl> cp -av to see what it is doning
[06:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and if so how?
[06:14] <Whistler> can anybody recommend me video player?
[06:14] <Strife> Whistler: xine
[06:15] <jee> Whistler, mplayer
[06:15] <redtech> !wiki
[06:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Whistler , beep-media-player
[06:15] <Strife> heh
[06:15] <redtech> !wiki encrypted dvd
[06:15] <HappyFool> !restricted
[06:15] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:16] <raven3x7> hi again
[06:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu hi
[06:16] <ubotu> que tal, church_of_foamy
[06:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[06:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i still think thats cool
[06:16] <kvidell> ChurcH_of_FoamY: You apparently linked someone to the Suicide IllWillPress video the other day and they thought you really wanted them to kill themselves, lol
[06:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[06:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kvidell , are you freaking shittin me?
[06:17] <kvidell> nope
[06:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[06:17] <raven3x7> im still having troubles with the nvidia drivers. i managed to install them but i only get a black screen when x starts. no errors apparent in the log for xorg. any ideas?
[06:17] <kvidell> they were unfamiliar with the cartoon series I guess
[06:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that is so insane
[06:17] <carl> raveli, use the ubuntu nvidia package
[06:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just through the link in there
[06:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's not my fault they thought that >.<
[06:18] <redtech> ty HappyFool
[06:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shakes head....when are people gonna learn that cartoons are just CARTOONS???!!!
[06:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kvidell , just cureious though who was it ?
[06:19] <carl> how do I remount a CD so that all users have rights to the files?  currently it is 700
[06:20] <kvidell> lemme look
[06:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[06:20] <ed1t> how do i write an iso file to a cd?
[06:20] <raven3x7> carl : are you talking to me?
[06:20] <carl> yes
[06:20] <raven3x7> same thing. i tried it
[06:20] <kvidell> bojangles?
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> him lol jeeze
[06:21] <carl> raven3x7, document what you have and did, file a bug report - you will probably see a solution in a day or 2 - much less work
[06:21] <bratsche> Has anyone reported problems of not being able to find 'kernel-image' when installing from the 5.04 CD?
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i through foamy links in here so people can enjoy them >.<
[06:21] <kvidell> hehe. It's coo :)
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's only a cartoon people you know fiction?
[06:21] <kvidell> Do you know Pekster?
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no
[06:21] <kvidell> hm, k
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why does he know me?
[06:21] <nalioth_wrkn> ChurcH_of_FoamY: different people take things in different ways
[06:21] <kvidell> not sure, lol
[06:21] <Heimdall_linux> damn, no mean to show a window of a processus that is active but invisible ?
[06:22] <HappyFool> carl: you can play with the umask option in /etc/fstab
[06:22] <kvidell> He and my Fiance manage some of the mirroring
[06:22] <carl> HappyFool, thanks
[06:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth_wrkn , yea true......but a cartoon? wow
[06:22] <HappyFool> carl: e.g., umask=000 would work
[06:22] <raven3x7> carl : i dont think its a bug. probably it's most probably my x configuration
[06:22] <golgor> can anyone help me setup a wu-ftpd server with webmin
[06:22] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: top?
[06:22] <Heimdall_linux> well nalioth_wrkn , top shows the process, but don't display the window
[06:23] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: an X window?
[06:23] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: did you try alt-tab?
[06:23] <Heimdall_linux> yeah, always my Amule problem
[06:23] <Heimdall_linux> I did killall gnome-panel
[06:23] <golgor> anyone familiar with wu-ftpd?
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> the icon disapeared
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> but amule is still active
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> I just can't display it...
[06:24] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: kill amule
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth_wrkn, no...
[06:24] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: it will pick up where it left off, hopefully
[06:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=87 <----and remember it's just a CARTOON ^_^
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth_wrkn, it has to be another solution
[06:24] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth_wrkn, I don't wanna loose my queues
[06:25] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: then live with it, cuz if it isnt responding to your menu selections, you have no other options
[06:25] <kbrooks> heh
[06:25] <carl> i still get "Permission denied" even though mount:/dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000,user=carl)
[06:25] <redtech> ok, the restricted formats doc helped.  but xine is displaying nothing but green lines. what am I missing?
[06:25] <Heimdall_linux> nalioth_wrkn, I can't believe linux does not have a command to show a window that is hidden
[06:25] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, define hidden
[06:25] <raven3x7> can anyone figure out if this could be the reason for the black screen http://pastebin.com/310645
[06:25] <golgor> wu-ftp?
[06:26] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: the amule (from what you report) is malfunctioning
[06:26] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks, you know amule ? well it is possible to hide the window to put a little icon near the clock... well I don't have this icon anymore, but amule is still running
[06:26] <nalioth_wrkn> carl: you have too many options, i think
[06:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> howly crap the new knoppix cd rocks
[06:27] <Heimdall_linux>  9339 nico      15   0 48028  16m 6016 S  5.2  7.0  59:18.95 amule
[06:27] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, no other options
[06:27] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, uh, stopped
[06:27] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks, but this is too bad
[06:27] <Heimdall_linux> :(
[06:27] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux,
[06:27] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux,
[06:27] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux,
[06:28] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: just be patient for a couple days, you queue should finish
[06:28] <kbrooks> amule is stopped.
[06:28] <Heimdall_linux> what ?
[06:28] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks,  ?
[06:28] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn, dude. please look at the ps  output
[06:28] <carl> nalioth_wrkn, any idea what I should have?
[06:28] <raven3x7> anyone?
[06:28] <kbrooks> fg amule
[06:28] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, try fg amule
[06:28] <nalioth_wrkn> Heimdall_linux: kbrooks means from a terminal
[06:28] <Heimdall_linux> no such job
[06:29] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, are you sure?
[06:29] <HappyFool> fg will probably only work if the process was backgrounded from that terminal
[06:29] <Heimdall_linux> nico@nico:~/download$ fg amule
[06:29] <Heimdall_linux> bash: fg: amule: no such job
[06:29] <nalioth_wrkn> kbrooks: amule is running, afai can see
[06:29] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn, it just is stopped.
[06:30] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn, amule is NOT malfunctioning.
[06:30] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks, but I can see it in 'top'
[06:30] <nalioth_wrkn> i've already said to kill it
[06:30] <Heimdall_linux> I think it is rather a GNOME pb
[06:30] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, well, if you didnt bg it from there, you have no choice but to kill it
[06:30] <HappyFool> raven3x7: no, those errors are not likely to be related
[06:30] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks, 'bg' ?
[06:31] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, no, it is not a gnome problem
[06:31] <kbrooks> background
[06:31] <Heimdall_linux> oh ok
[06:31] <zth_> how do i restart proftpd when it's using inetd?
[06:31] <Heimdall_linux> okay
[06:31] <Heimdall_linux> I'll kill it
[06:31] <karim> how to deleted a cdrw ?
[06:31] <zth_> karim, gnomebaker
[06:31] <Scisla1> so, even though I migrated to hoary a while back, last night I decided to finally switch from xfree to xorg... needless to say my xserver won't start now... anyone have any suggestions?
[06:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> new link for ya guys http://www.taintedink.com/main.htm
[06:32] <nalioth_wrkn> Scisla1: "sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:32] <Heimdall_linux> then it works again....
[06:32] <yahalom> al my home folder files are on my desktop and when i delete them off my desktop they are deleted from my home folder, when i paste them from by trash back into my home folder they show up on the desktop, any ideas?
[06:32] <Heimdall_linux> but lost my queue :(
[06:32] <raven3x7> HappyFool towards the end i get some more warnings about the font renderer. thats about it nothing more
[06:32] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, it doesnt matter
[06:32] <kbrooks> the point is that amule was stopped somehow
[06:33] <Scisla1> thanks nalioth_wrkn
[06:33] <Scisla1> bbiab
[06:33] <Heimdall_linux> kbrooks, but you saw like me that it was not *completly* stopped
[06:33] <Heimdall_linux> since it was still downloading
[06:33] <kbrooks> Heimdall_linux, read man ps
[06:34] <raven3x7> HappyFool http://pastebin.com/310651 but i guess these are probably not related either
[06:34] <Heimdall_linux> okay thanks guys
[06:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok before i ruin another cd any idea whats causing this error? http://pastebin.com/310653
[06:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> at the very end it just quits using the cd
[06:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or burning i should say
[06:36] <koch2005> hello
[06:36] <kbrooks> permission denied
[06:37] <kbrooks> thats the error
[06:38] <emuzesto> A lot of stuff in /dev disapeared after my last apt-get upgrade, so now my cdrom and usb disc don't work properly. What can I do to fix it?
[06:38] <kbrooks> hmmmm
[06:38] <yahalom> anyway i can use my gnome file browser to surf the web?
[06:38] <kbrooks> emuzesto, apt-get upgrade to what?
[06:38] <koch2005> hi
[06:39] <koch2005> hello
[06:39] <decaf> hi, qt apps such as skype has toooooo big fonts
[06:39] <emuzesto> kbrooks: I don't remember.
[06:39] <koch2005> Has anyone tried succesfully configuring sound in ubuntu ?
[06:39] <yahalom> anybody?
[06:39] <Panzerboy> koch2005: for me it worked out of the box
[06:39] <Panzerboy> koch2005: what's the problem?
[06:40] <Panzerboy> yahalom: why would you want to do that?
[06:40] <bratsche> I can't even get Ubuntu to install.
[06:40] <koch2005> I have serious sound issues when I installed ubuntu. It was working fine when I was erunning fedora core 2
[06:40] <bratsche> Feh.
[06:40] <yahalom> Panzerboy, so i wont have to open a seperate browser when i decide to stop messing with my files and want to surf the web,
[06:40] <koch2005> Panzerboy, I get distorted sound when playing music files
[06:40] <Chilloutx> hi there, i finally manager to install drivers for my WLAN card. but i need help configuring it. can someone help me please?
[06:41] <nalioth_wrkn> koch2005: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:41] <yahalom> Panzerboy, like konqueror
[06:41] <kbrooks> bratsche, why?
[06:41] <Panzerboy> yahalom: i don't know if it's possible with nautilus
[06:41] <bratsche> kbrooks: The installer just craps out and says it couldn't find kernel-image, or something like that.
[06:41] <bratsche> kbrooks: I'm installing from 5.04 CD.
[06:41] <yahalom> Panzerboy, yeah i cand of thought so :(
[06:42] <kbrooks> bratsche, CD corrupted?
[06:42] <nalioth_wrkn> yahalom: nautilus currently does not surf the web
[06:42] <bratsche> kbrooks: I'll burn another one to be certain.
[06:42] <nalioth_wrkn> bratsche: check your md5 checksums
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone know about my error?
[06:42] <yahalom> nalioth_wrkn, no way?
[06:42] <nalioth_wrkn> bratsche: on both your iso image and your cd-rom
[06:42] <yahalom> nalioth_wrkn, no plugin or something?
[06:42] <nalioth_wrkn> yahalom: not to my knowledge
[06:42] <bratsche> nalioth_wrkn: Okay.
[06:42] <Panzerboy> bratsche: do first what nalioth_wrkn said, check the md5 sum
[06:43] <Panzerboy> before burning another cd
[06:43] <bratsche> Let me find out how to check them md5 sum.  I'm not sure off hand how you do that.
[06:43] <koch2005> nalioth_wrkn, In the link you gave it says for all other problems, try 'fuser /dev/dsp' . But I donot have this file. Could this be the problem?
[06:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth do you know what happend here when i tryed to burn a cd? http://pastebin.com/310653
[06:44] <nalioth> bratsche: open a terminal and type "man md5sum" or you can ask uncle google
[06:44] <Panzerboy> bratsche: download first the md5sum file from the ubuntu site
[06:44] <Panzerboy> bratsche: then use the md5sum utility
[06:45] <bratsche> Okay, thanks.
[06:45] <nalioth> koch2005: that is not the only 'fix' to be found, check the wiki further and look into the forums
[06:48] <koch2005> nalioth, But is this file important for playing sound? I do not have this file in my system.
[06:49] <nalioth> koch2005: i'm not all that familiar with sound issues, i just point people to that sound wiki to get them started off
[06:49] <yahalom> nalioth_wrkn, no plugin or something?cool
[06:50] <koch2005> nalioth, thanks for the help
[06:52] <Velcan> are there any mail notification utils built into ubuntu that will work with gmail?
[06:53] <decaf> Velcan: gmail has pop3 support.
[06:53] <peaceyall> how can i check if im using acpi or the other sht
[06:53] <Velcan> yea, never did get that to work properly though
[06:53] <nalioth> Velcan: i'm not sure if mail-notification uses ssl (which google requires)
[06:53] <Velcan> guess that was on my widoze machine at work though .... maybe i will try that here
[06:54] <decaf> Velcan: use thunderbird, tell it to use secure connection
[06:54] <nalioth> Velcan: you must enable ssl in your pop3 clients for it to work with google
[06:54] <nalioth> Velcan: there is a very good walkthrough when you log into gmail using your browser
[06:54] <Velcan> i have the gmail notifier installed for firefox but im looking for gnome applet or something to go in the systray
[06:55] <nalioth> Velcan: i am not sure if the applet uses ssl
[06:56] <Velcan> I know there is a gnome gtray ... im just not suer if there was a package out there that someone put together for ubuntu or if it's something im going to have to compile
[06:57] <nalioth> Velcan: a google mail tray applet?
[06:57] <Velcan> yea
[06:57] <nalioth> Velcan: where do you get it?
[06:57] <nalioth> Velcan: i'll compile it in a second
[06:57] <Velcan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnome-gtray/
[06:58] <raven3x7> isnt there a command that creates a xorg.conf? like dexconfig or something?
[06:58] <nalioth> raven3x7: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:58] <Velcan> sf appears to be empty though ;\
[06:58] <raven3x7> nalioth thanks
[06:59] <BiSK-8[shower] > re
[06:59] <nalioth> Velcan: yes, it's vaporware atm
[06:59] <supernix> Ok im back
[06:59] <Velcan> I'm gonna try this 'mail-notification' in synaptic ... it look promising (crosses fingers) :P
[07:00] <Hikaru79> Do Java swing applications use OSS?
[07:00] <supernix> Ok anyone know how to keep Mozilla from crashing when you try viewing a website with flash
[07:00] <Hikaru79> I've managed to get ALSA and ESD configured to hear multiple sounds at once, but Java programs still refuse to play sound...
[07:00] <Hikaru79> supernix, make sure your symlink to the flash plugin isn't broken
[07:00] <Hikaru79> That's why it crashes on flash for 99% of people.
[07:00] <supernix> how can I vefiry that /?
[07:01] <Hikaru79> Go to the plugin directory and do an ls -al on the plugin
[07:01] <Hikaru79> See if it points to anything
[07:01] <supernix> ah ok
[07:02] <Velcan> Awesome!
[07:02] <cmatheson> hey, i'm trying to use Xnest (running it as display :1.0, but when i try to launch something (e.g. xterm -display :1.0, it gets refused by server~what needs to be done)?
[07:02] <Velcan> mail-notification even has Gmail as an optional mailbox type :)
[07:03] <adham> hey people
[07:03] <adham> did i say something wrong
[07:03] <kbrooks> UH
[07:03] <kbrooks> OU?
[07:03] <kbrooks> you*
[07:03] <adham> what?
[07:04] <Panzerboy> adham: yes, you've been very very naughty :)
[07:04] <kbrooks> what do you want help with?
[07:04] <adham> dose anyone know the developers of ubuntu linux
[07:04] <sjjubb1989> i have a website for flash
[07:04] <kbrooks> adham, why?
[07:05] <sjjubb1989> it got it working for my ubuntu
[07:05] <kbrooks> what do you want help with?
[07:05] <adham> i need to know if anyone knows how to get to them
[07:05] <nalioth> adham: they are listed on the wiki
[07:05] <Panzerboy> adham: join #ubuntu-devel
[07:05] <apokryphos> adham: plenty in #ubuntu-devel
[07:05] <apokryphos> snap
[07:05] <adham> i have know clue that is
[07:05] <nalioth> adham: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <Panzerboy> huh ?
[07:06] <hellraiser_rob> word up people
[07:06] <Panzerboy> strange fellow
[07:06] <Panzerboy> word
[07:06] <apokryphos> haha
[07:06] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:06] <hellraiser_rob> how goes it everyone?
[07:06] <apokryphos> Fine and dandy
[07:06] <Panzerboy> like a charm :)
[07:06] <sjjubb1989> hey what is the command to check your filesystem (ext3)
[07:06] <hellraiser_rob> spiffing
[07:06] <Panzerboy> fsck ?
[07:06] <Quest-Master> fsck, sjjubb1989
[07:06] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: fsck
[07:07] <sjjubb1989> thanks
[07:07] <Panzerboy> fsck.ext3 actually
[07:07] <Quest-Master> fsck will work fine though :x
[07:07] <sjjubb1989> there we go
[07:07] <sjjubb1989> thanks
[07:07] <nalioth> Panzerboy: it depends on the fs, i could use fsck.hfsplus
[07:07] <hellraiser_rob> anyone had much luck with the old beagle?
[07:08] <supernix> Hikaru79, do you look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?
[07:08] <Panzerboy> nalioth: he specified ext3
[07:08] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:08] <hellraiser_rob> alright girls calm down, i'm sure your all equally right
[07:09] <Panzerboy> heh
[07:09] <nalioth> Panzerboy: my bad, i can't see very well this morning
[07:09] <Panzerboy> nalioth: np :)
[07:09] <hellraiser_rob> this morning!!! its 6:11pm you lazy git
[07:09] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i'm just the same in the mornings till i have my coffee :)
[07:10] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:10] <Panzerboy> hellraiser_rob: actually it's 8:09 PM :)
[07:10] <Panzerboy> but those are just details :)
[07:10] <sjjubb1989> its 10:10 where i am
[07:10] <hellraiser_rob> you in the med panzerboy?
[07:10] <kbrooks> heh
[07:10] <Panzerboy> eastern europe
[07:10] <nalioth> coffee! that's what's missing!
[07:10] <hellraiser_rob> ahhh i'm travelling that way in a few weeks
[07:10] <sjjubb1989> which part?
[07:10] <hellraiser_rob> where do you recommend?
[07:11] <hellraiser_rob> slovenia, slovakia, croatia, czech
[07:11] <hellraiser_rob> sarajevo, bosnia
[07:11] <sjjubb1989> thats nice
[07:11] <hellraiser_rob> that kind of thing
[07:11] <Panzerboy> never been in those places
[07:11] <sjjubb1989> i want to go to germany
[07:11] <Panzerboy> i'm from romania :)
[07:11] <nalioth> hellraiser_rob: beautiful country
[07:11] <Panzerboy> germany is also nice
[07:11] <Panzerboy> been there this spring
[07:11] <hellraiser_rob> yeah i've been to castle dracula in romania hehe
[07:11] <Panzerboy> lol
[07:12] <Panzerboy> dracula sucks
[07:12] <hellraiser_rob> nice blood vodka they do
[07:12] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:12] <sjjubb1989> that he does
[07:12] <hellraiser_rob> lol
[07:12] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:12] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:12] <hellraiser_rob> do you ski much panzerboy?
[07:12] <Panzerboy> actually there are 2 or 3 "dracula" castels
[07:12] <sjjubb1989> time to see if aim.com freezes firefox again
[07:12] <hellraiser_rob> gl
[07:12] <Panzerboy> not at all unfortunatelly
[07:13] <hellraiser_rob> romania has good snow, you should try it
[07:13] <Panzerboy> yeah :)
[07:13] <virgule> hey all give me a fun website. I ned a laugh!
[07:13] <oscar_> -_-
[07:13] <oscar_> ah c'est vrai
[07:13] <oscar_> pas de majuscules et pas d'accents
[07:13] <sjjubb1989> www.jibjab.com
[07:13] <Panzerboy> virgule: www,microsoft.com
[07:13] <hellraiser_rob> www.slashdot.com
[07:13] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:13] <sjjubb1989> nice one panzerboy
[07:13] <nalioth> whats a good bulk file renamer?
[07:13] <nalioth> for the console?
[07:13] <nalioth> for the GUI?
[07:14] <Panzerboy> nalioth: perl :)
[07:14] <Panzerboy> actually i'm looking also for such a tool
[07:14] <nalioth> Panzerboy: perl what?
[07:14] <Panzerboy> have a bunch of futurama episodes
[07:14] <sjjubb1989> lerl as in
[07:14] <sjjubb1989> #/usr/bin/perl (joking)
[07:14] <Panzerboy> nalioth: j/k :)
[07:14] <virgule> i mean more stuffs like this: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/family.html
[07:14] <hellraiser_rob> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mvb
[07:15] <nalioth> hate dealing with camera files
[07:15] <nalioth> hellraiser_rob: havent you got the word yet?
[07:15] <yahalom> anyone here surf the web with nautilus?
[07:15] <sjjubb1989> guess what i did today. i never thought this would happen
[07:15] <nalioth> hellraiser_rob: but thx for the answer
[07:15] <sjjubb1989> who here has used a used stick of ram for a bookmark?
[07:15] <hellraiser_rob> nalioth: i've always got the word
[07:15] <hellraiser_rob> not me
[07:16] <nalioth> !ubguide
[07:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[07:16] <hellraiser_rob> i've used a used cpu though
[07:16] <Panzerboy> yeah, ubuntuguide is pure evil
[07:16] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:17] <Panzerboy> i wonder what's gonna happen to me, since i've followed it yesterday morning :)
[07:17] <Panzerboy> i'm still waiting for something really evil to happen
[07:17] <action09> great ! a gdm restart occured without any explication :(
[07:17] <HappyFool> Panzerboy: even now the nanobots are eating their way out of your harddrive
[07:17] <hellraiser_rob> always nice
[07:18] <nalioth> Panzerboy: you havent been in here when the users come in and cant operate their system due to the 'guide?
[07:18] <albacker> guys i deleted, /usr/share/enlightenmen while havin enlightenment installed, than apt-get remove en.. and than apt-get install enl. but when i enter it, it shows an error. any idea . what to do ?
[07:18] <Panzerboy> nalioth: nope
[07:18] <Panzerboy> nalioth: but what happened actually?
[07:18] <nalioth> Panzerboy: i've seen/helped quite a few
[07:18] <sjjubb1989> lol a cpu hellraiser_bob
[07:19] <hellraiser_rob> ;)
[07:19] <nalioth> Panzerboy: using nonofficial repos continually will cause terminal version discrepancys
[07:19] <Panzerboy> nalioth: that's true
[07:19] <hellraiser_rob> whats the mp3 player of choice around these parts ?
[07:19] <hellraiser_rob> as in portable hardware
[07:19] <sjjubb1989> i'm going to install enlightenment soon. how good is it?
[07:20] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: its as good as you make it
[07:20] <sjjubb1989> sweet
[07:20] <hellraiser_rob> lol
[07:20] <elmaya> hello, i tried to run hoary live cd but it freezes on detecting pc cards... is there any workarrounds?
[07:20] <sjjubb1989> so basically is it theme based?
[07:20] <Panzerboy> albacker: try apt-get purge enl... then apt-get install it again
[07:20] <sjjubb1989> i wonder if i can get enlightenment through apt-get
[07:20] <sjjubb1989> i'm spelling it right right?
[07:20] <Panzerboy> nalioth: actually this morning i've updated to the packages from backport
[07:20] <Panzerboy> s
[07:20] <Panzerboy> and up until now everyrhing's good
[07:21] <nalioth> Panzerboy: good thing they are now and 'official' (but not quite synced) project, eh?
[07:21] <Panzerboy> nalioth: didn't know they are official now
[07:21] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:21] <hellraiser_rob> shit eng lost in the cricket...curse it!
[07:21] <HappyFool> nalioth: i wondered about that official thing. does backports host w32codecs?
[07:21] <nalioth> Panzerboy: they are, but they have not yet been brought into sync with the rest of the packages
[07:22] <HappyFool> nalioth: and if so, aren't there potential legal problems?
[07:22] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i see
[07:22] <Panzerboy> nalioth: thanks for the info
[07:22] <Panzerboy> hellraiser_rob: who cares? :)
[07:22] <nalioth> HappyFool: thats hoary-extras, i believe
[07:22] <Panzerboy> yeah, it's in extras
[07:22] <sjjubb1989> how do i switch from gnome to enlightenment once installed?
[07:22] <Panzerboy> not in backports
[07:22] <hellraiser_rob> Panzerboy: everyone with class
[07:22] <HappyFool> nalioth: oh
[07:22] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: at your login screen
[07:22] <hellraiser_rob> Panzerboy: :)
[07:22] <Panzerboy> sjjubb1989: i guess it will appear in gdm
[07:22] <HappyFool> nalioth: i thought the whole thing was 'backports'
[07:22] <Panzerboy> hellraiser_rob: :)
[07:23] <nalioth> HappyFool: there are two, 'extras' and 'backports'
[07:23] <Panzerboy> HappyFool: nope, there are 2 repos: extras and backports
[07:23] <sjjubb1989> nalioth, Panzerboy: so it should be there especially since it was installed in apt-get
[07:23] <HappyFool> *enlightenment* (not the gui kind)
[07:23] <Panzerboy> HappyFool: see what happens if you don't read The Guide (tm) ? :)
[07:23] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: if you have trouble starting "E", come back here and get with e
[07:23] <nalioth> me
[07:23] <Panzerboy> but
[07:23] <sjjubb1989> nolioth: thanks
[07:23] <Panzerboy> what e version is in the repos?
[07:24] <Panzerboy> 16 or some 17 beta?
[07:24] <sjjubb1989> hmm i'm not sure
[07:24] <sjjubb1989> Panzerboy: 17 beta is not open yet i don't think
[07:25] <Panzerboy> it's 16
[07:25] <hellraiser_rob> the parties starting to quiet down a bit
[07:25] <hellraiser_rob> boooooooooooomb
[07:25] <hellraiser_rob> *boooooooooooom
[07:25] <hellraiser_rob> has that got it started
[07:26] <Panzerboy> hellraiser_rob: hmm ... you didn't take your medication ... again :)
[07:26] <hellraiser_rob> Panzerboy: i did, but i think i took too much
[07:30] <Freedomzen> Can anyone tell me if they have the nvidia drivers working on Breezy-AMD64
[07:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can knoppix be installed as an os?
[07:31] <nalioth> ChurcH: you asked about a disk error? did the disk work in your machine after you burned it?
[07:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it looks so cool
[07:31] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes it can
[07:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there something speacal you have to do to do it?
[07:32] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can make your ubuntu look the exact same way
[07:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know i was just gawking at the colour boot stuff
[07:32] <sjjubb1989> oh yes that was certainly a pint for enlightenment
[07:32] <sjjubb1989> *pain
[07:33] <hack_benjamin> just wondering- does hoary use xorg or xfree86?
[07:33] <Freedomzen> xorg
[07:33] <tvo> hack_benjamin: xorg
[07:33] <Panzerboy> xorg
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the little pic of tux and thought cool i want that ^_^
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have no inention of switching to knoppix
[07:34] <eruin> yuck, tux!
[07:34] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so rip all the stuff you like out of it, it's GPL'd
[07:34] <Panzerboy> lol
[07:34] <eruin> tux is a pretty damn ugly mascot :p
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> eruin O_O
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are you serious
[07:34] <poningru> wtf
[07:34] <DjMadness> eruin: :(
[07:34] <Panzerboy> yeah, the bsd devil is sexier :)
[07:34] <poningru> I <3 tux
[07:34] <virgule> its better than a butterfly
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> TUX ROCKS!!!!
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[07:34] <DjMadness> <3 TuX
[07:34] <poningru> bsd devil is bs
[07:35] <eruin> it'd be great if linux had a pretty mascot instead ;)
[07:35] <virgule> bs d
[07:35] <Panzerboy> t3h tux r00x0rz
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> <--- has tux stuffed animal ^_^
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mine runs away
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[07:35] <DjMadness> lol
[07:36] <DjMadness> :P
[07:36] <icewt> er.. i just installed ubuntu. i was never asked to set root password, i wonder what it is by default?
[07:36] <eruin> !root
[07:36] <ubotu> I heard root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:36] <eruin> read that
[07:36] <Panzerboy> icewt: the root account is disabled
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so um whats an easy way to colour all the stuff like in knoppix's boot
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and stick tux in dere
[07:37] <eruin> wait for usplash to hit breezy
[07:38] <eruin> then upgrade ;)
[07:38] <DjMadness> heh eruin i use sudo my self :)
[07:38] <eruin> DJ_Mirage, we all do ;)
[07:38] <icewt> hmm.. strange
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> was that for me?
[07:38] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> usplash is that something to change
[07:38] <Panzerboy> icewt: what's so strange?
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the boot clour and such?
[07:38] <sjjubb1989> what does the -s -h do?
[07:39] <Panzerboy> sjjubb1989: the same thing as the root terminal
[07:39] <sjjubb1989> ah
[07:39] <sjjubb1989> thanks
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wonders if he can you his led keyboard with ubuntu
[07:41] <gore> hey all
[07:41] <Panzerboy> hey gore
[07:41] <steffen> hi my name is steffen and i have a problem with my soundcard
[07:41] <steffen> i have a audigy 2 zs
[07:42] <sjjubb1989> hello steffen
[07:42] <Hentai> ok
[07:42] <sjjubb1989> what does it not do
[07:42] <eruin> how.... descriptive
[07:42] <steffen> and i have no sound, but the hardware check shows me the right card
[07:42] <Panzerboy> steffen: check out alsamixer
[07:42] <sjjubb1989> what does it do?
[07:42] <Hentai> is there any ultrasparc ubuntu releases?
[07:42] <sjjubb1989> also try
[07:42] <Panzerboy> see if the volume is not muted
[07:42] <steffen> one moment please i cant typing so fast ^^
[07:42] <steffen> it doesnt muted
[07:42] <sjjubb1989> sudo apt-get install alsa-oss (that worked for me last night)
[07:43] <steffen> oh thx
[07:43] <Panzerboy> heh
[07:43] <steffen> i will probe ^^
[07:43] <Panzerboy> i must be very lucky
[07:43] <Panzerboy> my sound just worked out of the box :P
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea same here
[07:43] <Panzerboy> and i have a cheap c-media card
[07:43] <sjjubb1989> same here
[07:44] <sjjubb1989> i have an enquisonic something
[07:44] <steffen> i doesnt fidn the package also-oss
[07:44] <eruin> my sound has always worked out of the box
[07:44] <steffen> from which serve you have it?
[07:44] <topyli> Hentai: no sparc
[07:44] <eruin> except on fc2
[07:44] <sjjubb1989> ah yes
[07:44] <Panzerboy> it's alsa-oss
[07:44] <gore> hey wat is the minimum spec for ur pc to have before installin ubuntu linux??
[07:44] <steffen> sorry for my bad bad english but i came from germany ^
[07:44] <sjjubb1989> you also have to add more respiritories
[07:45] <Panzerboy> it's in universe
[07:45] <nalioth> steffen: ist no leute in #ubuntu-de?
[07:45] <sjjubb1989> Du sprechen duestch?
[07:45] <Panzerboy> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <Freedomzen> Can anyone tell me if they have the nvidia drivers working on Breezy-AMD64
[07:45] <Panzerboy> and enable the universe repo there
[07:45] <eruin> "wut" ur" ?
[07:45] <Panzerboy> then sudo apt-get update
[07:45] <steffen> i ah it give a extra channel for germans cool thx ;-)
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> Was?
[07:46] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: who are you asking?
[07:46] <steffen> ah thx
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> steffen
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> nevermind
[07:46] <Panzerboy> heh
[07:46] <nalioth> sjjubb1989: lots of us speak german
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> i speak very very little
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> thank you duesth eins
[07:46] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:47] <sjjubb1989> *woops sorry , deustch eins
[07:47] <steffen> echt is ja mal nett dann ;-)
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can you apt-get knoppix?
[07:47] <Bubbling_Zombie> gore, depends: what do you plan to do with it?
[07:47] <Tech^salvager> Hello
[07:47] <Bubbling_Zombie> no, but you can apt-get gentoo :')
[07:47] <Panzerboy> lol
[07:47] <steffen> yeah lol ;-)
[07:48] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:48] <Bubbling_Zombie> it's a mandatory course here, in the high schools
[07:48] <Bubbling_Zombie> i understand it, but speaking is a big disaster :')
[07:48] <phenomeno> does somone know a program voor ubuntu that works the same way as alchol 120% in windows.
[07:48] <eruin> phenomeno MUST be dutch
[07:48] <Panzerboy> Bubbling_Zombie: same here
[07:48] <Bubbling_Zombie> no
[07:49] <phenomeno> eruin, ??
[07:49] <Panzerboy> phenomeno: what is alchol 120% do ?
[07:49] <Panzerboy> if you tell us, maybe we can suggest something
[07:49] <Panzerboy> errr, what _does_ :P
[07:49] <phenomeno> it reads cue files en stuff like that
[07:49] <nalioth> phenomeno: what features do you need?
[07:49] <znh_> Hmm.. I juste renamed a folder (with music content), after cding into the renamed folder all my content has been lost
[07:49] <Bubbling_Zombie> you need a mounting tool for iso's?
[07:49] <nalioth> phenomeno: binchunker converts bin/cue to iso image
[07:49] <eruin> gnome-toaster probably
[07:50] <znh_> attention please, it's important for my vocation
[07:50] <Panzerboy> znh_: that's quite strange
[07:50] <steffen> must i restart system after i have installed also-oss?
[07:50] <nalioth> znh_: back out of the dir, and do an ls
[07:50] <sjjubb1989> um
[07:50] <SPORT> Panzerboy, Alcohol 120% burns a "perfect" backup of a disc CD or DVD
[07:50] <steffen> alsa ;)
[07:50] <Bubbling_Zombie> no steffen
[07:50] <nalioth> steffen: no you do not
[07:50] <Tech^salvager> ok naloth looks like no ultrasparc support
[07:50] <znh_> nalioth: already did that
[07:51] <sjjubb1989> steffen: now you can start the application like so via command line
[07:51] <steffen> it doesnt functioned
[07:51] <Panzerboy> SPORT: oh, it's like a cd cloner or smth
[07:51] <sjjubb1989> steffen: aoss programname
[07:51] <SPORT> Panzerboy, yup
[07:51] <steffen> ah thx
[07:51] <nalioth> znh_: no 'extra' similarly named folders?
[07:51] <znh_> negative
[07:51] <phenomeno> alcohol 120% reads the cue files and stuff like that, gives your pc  some extra cd-drivers (virtual) so that it reads the cue files en cann install the application or something like that
[07:51] <znh_> maybe I have to updatedb ?
[07:51] <Panzerboy> phenomeno: for that, you can convert the cue to iso
[07:51] <nalioth> znh_: only if you're using 'locate'
[07:51] <mcquaid> i want to try wrapping something with esddsp.  i don't seem to have that. what pkg provides esddsp?
[07:52] <znh_> so I lost around 300megabytes in one sec..
[07:52] <nalioth> phenomeno: binchunker converts bin/cue to iso image
[07:52] <znh_> damn they should create that in rm!
[07:52] <phenomeno> http://www.alcohol-soft.com/
[07:52] <Panzerboy> then mount it with mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /media/my_iso
[07:52] <nalioth> znh_: you are not the first, nor will you be the last
[07:52] <nalioth> znh_: create what in rm?
[07:52] <sjjubb1989> i wonder
[07:52] <znh_> nalioth: such a fast deletion function
[07:52] <Bubbling_Zombie> rm -rf :p
[07:52] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i guess he needs a point&clicky thingy :)
[07:52] <nalioth> znh_: oh, yes, lol
[07:52] <phenomeno> oke Panzerboy  i will see if it works :)
[07:52] <sjjubb1989> why do the people who develope linux make everything command line based
[07:53] <znh_> nalioth: I only renamed the directory, and everything was lost in 2ms
[07:53] <nalioth> Panzerboy: phenomeno use k3b
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> it makes it harder for windows users
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> lol
[07:53] <nalioth> znh_: thats crazy. did you use terminal or gui?
[07:53] <phenomeno> can you get that with apt-get nalioth ?
[07:53] <steffen> i have typed aoss xmms and restarted my xmms but nothing changes
[07:53] <steffen> any idea?
[07:53] <znh_> nalioth: the terminal.. but now I use du -c -h, I see everything is in one dir
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> steffen: hmmm
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> ok let me  see
[07:53] <znh_> instead of in two seperated dirs
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> xmms
[07:53] <znh_> great didn't loose 300megabytes ^^
[07:53] <sjjubb1989> ok i'm checking
[07:54] <steffen> thx for help
[07:54] <Raptoid> bye..
[07:54] <sjjubb1989> steffen: your using ubuntu linux right?
[07:54] <Panzerboy> phenomeno: what, k3b ?
[07:54] <steffen> kunbuntu
[07:54] <sjjubb1989> kk
[07:54] <steffen> but i think it must be the same
[07:55] <phenomeno> yes
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> drools over the knoppix boot and interface ^_^
[07:55] <phenomeno> Panzerboy,  yes :)
[07:55] <nalioth> phenomeno: yes you can
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> googles how to install on spare box
[07:56] <sjjubb1989> steffen: which sound card do you have again
[07:56] <flexs> how can i chage screen resolution, when i manualy edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, nothing happens, an from menu, there are only 640x480 available, nothnig else, help ?
[07:56] <steffen> a audigy 2 zs
[07:56] <steffen> a pci card
[07:56] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you really dont want to use knoppix (its not very friendly when you use apt-get)
[07:56] <nalioth> flexs: open a terminal
[07:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i want to install it then on another box
[07:57] <nalioth> flexs: and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose your rez wisely
[07:57] <eruin> phenomeno, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[07:57] <eruin> instead
[07:57] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: www.knoppix.net will enlightent you as to what you need to know
[07:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , if it's gonna harm my ubuntu then i just won't goof with it here
[07:57] <Tech^salvager> wait Knoppix is based off debian?
[07:57] <Panzerboy> Tech^salvager: yeah
[07:57] <phenomeno> you are making it hard for me :)
[07:57] <Tech^salvager> nice
[07:58] <phenomeno> i'm installing k3b now
[07:58] <drbig> hi, is it possible to change the locale after the instalation? i have pl_PL.UTF-8 now and i want to change it to pl_PL.ISO8859-2, but when i change the /etc/locale.gen and do locale-gen i get some errors...
[07:58] <Panzerboy> phenomeno: choices, choices :)
[07:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager , the live cd rocks
[07:58] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[07:58] <phenomeno> i will install them both
[07:58] <sjjubb1989> steffen: i found something in german
[07:58] <sjjubb1989> http://www.fedoralinux.de/node/view/1183
[07:58] <sjjubb1989> or dutch
[07:58] <Panzerboy> there is even a knoppix live dvd
[07:58] <sjjubb1989> one of the two
[07:58] <phenomeno> bbl
[07:58] <BiSK-8> i have a problem on ubuntu
[07:58] <auk> hey
[07:58] <Tech^salvager> I know about the live CD
[07:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the problem with a live dvd is not all computers have a dvd
[07:59] <BiSK-8> my printer dosent print
[07:59] <BiSK-8> what can i do?
[07:59] <Tech^salvager> just I didn't realize it was debian based
[07:59] <Panzerboy> sjjubb1989: that's german :)
[07:59] <auk> if i use dpkg -i, can i remove a package like with apt-get as cleanly?
[07:59] <steffen> ah german, okay i will show, thx for help, i come again when it doesnt helped ;-)
[07:59] <auk> or does it leave residue?
[07:59] <sjjubb1989> panzerboy: thanks
[07:59] <sjjubb1989> steffen: your welcome
[07:59] <Bubbling_Zombie> it gets added into the database auk
[07:59] <Panzerboy> BiSK-8: what printer do you have>?
[08:00] <Bubbling_Zombie> so you can remove it with apt-get remove etc
[08:00] <Panzerboy> is it supported by ubuntu ?
[08:00] <auk> BiSK-8: system > admin. > printing
[08:00] <sjjubb1989> this is what i love about the internet. i can read in another language an build on it
[08:00] <BiSK-8> panzerboy: hp deskjet 845c
[08:00] <Tech^salvager> ChurcH_of_FoamY does knoppix have a live CD for ultrasparc?
[08:00] <auk> Bubbling-Zombie: dpkg will nto take it aout if i choose to remove it?
[08:00] <Panzerboy> afaik apt-get remove leaves the config files behind
[08:00] <HappyFool> BiSK-8: maybe look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[08:00] <nalioth> Tech^salvager: knoppix only runs on x86 compatibles
[08:00] <BiSK-8> wait
[08:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager i think i seen something about that on there site
[08:00] <BiSK-8> it might work
[08:00] <BiSK-8> lemme c
[08:00] <nalioth> Tech^salvager: you may google "livecd ultrasparc" and see
[08:01] <Tech^salvager> nalioth I thought it was also for ppc
[08:01] <nalioth> Tech^salvager: there is an abandoned ppcKnoppix project from way back
[08:01] <Panzerboy> well, i'm gonna take a shower
[08:01] <Panzerboy> bbl ppl
[08:01] <Bubbling_Zombie> you could use purge
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok so knoppix is not meant to be a desktop os just a live cd?
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> weard
[08:01] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:02] <sjjubb1989> how would i find out which port has my printer on it. i have about 8 usb ports
[08:02] <BiSK-8> thanks it works
[08:02] <cyphase> hey everyone
[08:02] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i use knoppix as a rescue cd and linux demonstrator (although  now i give ubuntu livecds to demonstrate)
[08:02] <BiSK-8> bye
[08:02] <Bubbling_Zombie> lsusb sjjubb1989
[08:02] <Panzerboy> sjjubb1989: lsusb maybe ?
[08:02] <BiSK-8> oh
[08:02] <BiSK-8> and btw
[08:02] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you wish you can use it as a desktop or whatever
[08:02] <BiSK-8> can i make a playlist with totem?
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth i do that with ubuntu too ^_^ this is the first time i have seen knoppix
[08:03] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: but is is really cobbled together in a weird way, which makes it diffecult to upgrade/install to as an installed linux
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i was gonna install it here but am worried about a corrupt ubuntu >.<
[08:03] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: are you sitting down?
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , yes why?
[08:04] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i may have mind-blowing news
[08:04] <Tech^salvager> ??
[08:04] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have you see the knoppix dvd?
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , O_O
[08:04] <topyli> BiSK-8: sure. just make a list and save it
[08:04] <flexs> nalioth: that not worked.... ehere is problem maybe in drivers....
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , no
[08:04] <BiSK-8> no, without saving
[08:04] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there is a knoppix dvd with all kinds of nice stuff on it
[08:04] <BiSK-8> just listen 2 1 after the other
[08:04] <Tech^salvager> hm
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , only because i can't burn dvd's yet >.<
[08:04] <nalioth> klaus has been busy
[08:05] <Tech^salvager> I need a bootable windows system
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i just like the colourd boot the pic of tex and the desktop
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tux even O_o
[08:05] <flexs> how can i update my video driver....
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i wish i could make ubuntu's boot look that nice
[08:05] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that will come to ubuntu, be patient
[08:06] <topyli> BiSK-8: yes totem has a playlist. press ctrl-p or choose it from the "view" menu. is that what you mean?
[08:06] <sjjubb1989> Tech^salvager
[08:06] <nalioth> Tech^salvager: you mean microsoft?
[08:06] <Phrostbyte> I see Skype does not appear to be in any repositories....?
[08:06] <sjjubb1989> what happened?
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , O_O sweet ok any idea when?
[08:06] <eruin> ChurcH_of_FoamY, ubuntus boot will look much nicer come breezy
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can't waite
[08:06] <Tech^salvager> yes
[08:06] <nalioth> flexs: do the dpkg-reconfigure thing and choose VESA for the drive
[08:06] <sjjubb1989> Bubbling_Zombie, Panzerboy: thanks
[08:06] <flexs> nalioth: ok i try...
[08:07] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: eruin answered your question
[08:07] <BiSK-8> topyli: yes
[08:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[08:07] <BiSK-8> thanks
[08:07] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:07] <BiSK-8> and is any1 here on a SPARC system
[08:07] <Tech^salvager> nalioth nm I found a way
[08:07] <topyli> BiSK-8: all's well then :)
[08:08] <jee-> in system -> preferences -> screen resolution the best resolution is 1024x768@60Hz, however i've been using earlier with debian 1600x1200@75Hz. what can i do to get that resolution?
[08:08] <nalioth> ubotu tell jee about resolutions
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there any screenshots of breezy yet?
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm really interested in takeing a peek
[08:08] <Velcan> Trying to get my cedega setup and I'm at the test screens. For some reason both the alsa and the oss sound tests fail .... yet I hear sound, music files, etc... :\
[08:08] <BiSK-8> any1 here on a SPARC system?????
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> as a converted die hard ubuntu fan ^_^
[08:09] <decaf> ChurcH_of_FoamY: do you expect any differences?
[08:09] <eruin> since ubuntu doesnt support sparc, I'd say no
[08:09] <BiSK-8> :D
[08:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> decaf , well being new to linux i'm not shure what to expect
[08:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> decaf , i just know that i am hooked ^_^
[08:09] <nalioth> eruin: but that doesnt mean that someone on a sparc cant be in here?
[08:10] <sjjubb1989> this is my 18th time running linux
[08:10] <sjjubb1989> my 4th try on ubuntu
[08:10] <nalioth> eruin: we've had users on all kinds of hardware drop in from time to time
[08:10] <supernix> google weather
[08:10] <eruin> nalioth, no, it just makes it that much less likely ;)
[08:10] <Tech^salvager> I can't wait for my ultrasparc
[08:10] <Tech^salvager> BiSK-8 what you have?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> i386
[08:10] <BiSK-8> it sux
[08:10] <eruin> lies!
[08:11] <nalioth> lol
[08:11] <BiSK-8> i wanna get a sun blade 2500 workstation
[08:11] <Tech^salvager> so your using less then 33mhz?
[08:11] <BiSK-8> ???
[08:11] <BiSK-8> what????
[08:11] <Tech^salvager> you said i386
[08:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um what the helll is sparc?
[08:11] <Tech^salvager> a cpu arch
[08:11] <eruin> i386 is the architecture most of our computers run on
[08:11] <BiSK-8> i got 512ram, 60GB hdd, 2.00ghz
[08:11] <Tech^salvager> i686
[08:11] <Tech^salvager> probably
[08:11] <decaf> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's a cpu with worst price/preformance
[08:11] <BiSK-8> (i got 2 hdd though)
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> decaf , oh >.<
[08:12] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there are lots of different processors used in computers
[08:12] <BiSK-8> pentium IV
[08:12] <Tech^salvager> most likey i686
[08:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , yea i know i just use  the normal amd/intell/386 cpu's
[08:12] <eruin> I dont even know where I'd get a sparc
[08:12] <Tech^salvager> ebay
[08:12] <decaf> BiSK-8: get an amd64 box from Sun, solaris works very well on them.
[08:13] <Tech^salvager> I have a sparcstation LX
[08:13] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:13] <eruin> Tech^salvager, but ebay is another evil american corporation (tm) :)
[08:13] <Tech^salvager> eruin stomach it
[08:13] <Tech^salvager> I use windows anyways
[08:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok, i'm convinced that sparc is a creepy technology O_o
[08:15] <Tech^salvager> why?
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jeeze the comps on ebay look like mac all in one wannabe's
[08:15] <decaf> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sparc is dying. even it's vendor admits tihs
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what was so great about it to begin with
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just looks like a terminal on steriods
[08:16] <BiSK-8> lol
[08:16] <jayar> is there any statistics about how many people use ubuntu?
[08:16] <flexs> ok when i recongire on ves driver, he show me blank black screen, where problem ?
[08:16] <nalioth> jayar: does #1 on distrowatch mean anything?
[08:16] <eruin> don't think so... having one would be a cool thing though ;)
[08:16] <Tech^salvager> ChrucH_of_FoamY check out SGI machines
[08:17] <eruin> #1 on distrowatch means spam
[08:17] <eruin> :p
[08:17] <flexs> nalitoh ?
[08:17] <xpl01t> I am trying to run apt-get update using the extra repositories at ubuntuguide and I get this message W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager , got a link?
[08:17] <xpl01t> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:17] <nalioth> flexs: tell us your hardware specifications please
[08:17] <Tech^salvager> www.sgi.com
[08:17] <Tech^salvager> use ebay to find older machines
[08:17] <flexs> video driver ?
[08:17] <xpl01t> I run apt-get update and get this W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:17] <xpl01t> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:17] <zetor> hi again all!
[08:18] <nalioth> flexs: if you choose the VESA driver, it should work fine, now i'm thinking you have a problem somewhere else
[08:18] <xpl01t> running in circles
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager , got a link?
[08:18] <Tech^salvager> www.sgi.com
[08:18] <nalioth> xpl01t: edit the cdrom line out of your sources.list
[08:18] <Tech^salvager> shessh I'll find one for cheap
[08:18] <zenlunatic> Would ubuntu run well on a 200Mhz 128M system ram?
[08:18] <nalioth> zenlunatic: with a light window mangler
[08:18] <flexs> i think thet i not correctly configure the VESA driver....
[08:18] <Tech^salvager> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5788420391&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
[08:19] <flexs> ok i try again...
[08:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stares at SGI motherboard on ebay for $1.99 wheres the cpu go? O_O
[08:19] <zenlunatic> nalioth: heh mangler
[08:19] <Tech^salvager> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11223&item=5788338160&rd=1&tc=photo
[08:19] <Tech^salvager> link ChurcH_of_FoamY
[08:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> got it
[08:20] <nalioth> zenlunatic: i'm old-skewl, i like my terminal
[08:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager , looks like a coffie grinder O_O
[08:21] <flexs> nalioth : what is vertikal refresh rate an horizontal ? what must i write there ?
[08:21] <nalioth> flexs: just accept the default answer
[08:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Tech^salvager , is this a computer termianl or what?
[08:21] <Tech^salvager> no
[08:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> modified coffie grinder
[08:22] <Tech^salvager> more like a workstation
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's really neat looking
[08:22] <flexs> nalioth : than i dont now where is problem.... i have blan black screen....
[08:22] <SPORT> why do i hafta download and install a JRE?
[08:22] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: pardon me, but it's an overclocked coffee grinder
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> though i have never come acrost the technology before
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , thats what i thought
[08:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[08:22] <nalioth> flexs: what kind of monitor do you have? lcd or tube?
[08:23] <flexs> nalioth : CRT
[08:23] <Tech^salvager> ChurcH_of_FoamY: www.nekochan.net then go to the gallery to look at more pics of SGI machiens
[08:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i take it there no good at gaming
[08:23] <Tech^salvager> what?
[08:23] <Tech^salvager> theres really no game support on them
[08:23] <Tech^salvager> they run IRIC
[08:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[08:24] <Tech^salvager> IRIX*
[08:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um whats that
[08:24] <Tech^salvager> a OS
[08:24] <GigaClon> anyother places like happypenguin?
[08:24] <eruin> irix!
[08:24] <flexs> nalitoh : and..... ?
[08:24] <eruin> tahts the ugly OS we had to endure on the navy frigate I was on
[08:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jeeze never herd of that os before
[08:25] <GigaClon> hi ubotu
[08:25] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no they are for video editing/engineering purposes
[08:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ohhhhh.
[08:25] <zenlunatic> nalioth: so do you think openoffice and mozilla will work well on that old machine?
[08:25] <eruin> I wonder why they were used for communications
[08:25] <eruin> and radar systems
[08:25] <nalioth> zenlunatic: openoffice will suck a huge amount of resources
[08:26] <eruin> so will mozilla
[08:26] <Tech^salvager> probaly cause they had good thoughput at the time
[08:26] <nalioth> zenlunatic: use galeon
[08:26] <zenlunatic> nalioth: actually i use epiphany
[08:27] <eruin> and I wonder what kind of graphic artist is willing to work in an environment like that :(
[08:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well it dosen't look too bad
[08:27] <eruin> it looks like someone took gtk1.2 and made it even more butt ugly ;)
[08:27] <nalioth> zenlunatic: epiphany and galeon are native gtk gecko wrappers
[08:27] <virgule> !wrappers
[08:27] <ubotu> virgule: I don't know
[08:28] <eruin> I've been wanting to switch from firefox to epiphany, but I never seem to follow through
[08:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if i where a graphics editor i might be interested
[08:28] <Tech^salvager> eruin good thing linux support on sgi mips is minimal at best
[08:28] <eruin> I'm realizing why IE people are wary of switching to ff, really
[08:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> have to say the desktops kinda rock though
[08:28] <mackid_> join #pchardware
[08:29] <decaf> mackid_: why?
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wants aname wallparers
[08:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> papers even >.<
[08:29] <mackid_> lol, that was an accident
[08:29] <mackid_> :P
[08:29] <eruin> Tech^salvager ?
[08:29] <mackid_> sorry, decaf.  haha
[08:30] <eruin> if only gimp had MDI, I'd never look back to photoshop for image editing
[08:30] <mackid_> blah, my hard drive died
[08:30] <mackid_> so now I can't use ubuntu..
[08:30] <Tech^salvager> huh eruin?
[08:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know some good wallpaper sites for aname?
[08:30] <mig1> that sucks
[08:30] <xliu> I read in Linux Bible that the configuration file for system startup is "/etc/rc", but I can not find it. Anyone knows which one is the substitue?
[08:30] <mackid_> or my PC, for that matter.  just [g/k] noppix
[08:30] <Tech^salvager> whats aname?
[08:31] <Tech^salvager> mean anime?
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[08:31] <corine> can i ask a question?
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[08:31] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: www.deviantart.com
[08:31] <mackid_> Tech^salvager: japanese animation..
[08:31] <steffen> hello i'm back
[08:31] <HappyFool> xliu: corine go for it
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just finished watching vampire hunter d ^_^
[08:31] <HappyFool> err
[08:31] <HappyFool> corine: go for it
[08:31] <mig1> i installed ubuntu on a usb hdd, it works fine and all, however i am trying to boot that hdd from vmware, and grub is giving me an error 18, when i go into the vmware bios the primary master doesn't show an hdd, ideas?
[08:31] <steffen> i have solved my soundproblem
[08:31] <nalioth> xliu: most startup files end with 'rc'
[08:31] <HappyFool> xliu: there are a series of startup scripts in /etc/init.d
[08:31] <virgule> i think it was an honnest typo
[08:31] <virgule> ..missed the slash
[08:31] <Hentai> I need to get a VNC or remote desktop
[08:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> watches ghost iin the shell
[08:32] <nalioth> Hentai: easy
[08:32] <mig1> though i love having ubuntu on a usb hdd, it's like carrying a laptop with ya
[08:32] <mig1> only smaller/lighter
[08:32] <corine> i'm at the downloads page of a site, but i dont know which i need; it has FreeBSD, Fedora Core 2 &3, Gentoo, BeOS, Suse and just the source. which works with ubuntu?
[08:32] <steffen> anybody has installed klibido on your system?
[08:32] <HappyFool> corine: source
[08:32] <flexs> nalitoth : say me where is problem with my video card.... !!!!!
[08:32] <nalioth> corine: what wer you after again?
[08:32] <HappyFool> corine: what is this for?
[08:33] <corine> DOSBox :)
[08:33] <nalioth> flexs: what is the name of your video card?
[08:33] <mig1> well, only if where you are going there are machines
[08:33] <HappyFool> corine: dosbox 0.63 is available via synaptic
[08:33] <xliu> thanks, HappyFool, nalioth
[08:33] <flexs> Intel 8284.....
[08:34] <pfox> anyone know if there's a non-rounded version of the clearlooks metacity theme out there?
[08:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> goes to deviant art and looks at anime
[08:34] <corine> HappyFool, thanks! but then for other things in future, i need the source?
[08:34] <HappyFool> corine: look in synaptic first ;)
[08:34] <xliu> I just want to disable Updatedb in startup
[08:34] <corine> 'course, 'course... just in case :)
[08:34] <HappyFool> corine: otherwise, a .deb file *might* work, but it's probably best to use source -- you will, however, need to compile it
[08:35] <nalioth> corine: you should try in the repos first. do you have univers and multivere enabled?
[08:35] <corine> i havent a clue about that
[08:35] <virgule> !dosbox
[08:35] <ubotu> virgule: I haven't a clue
[08:35] <HappyFool> try !info dosbox
[08:35] <flexs> natlioth: ..... ?
[08:35] <corine> in here?
[08:35] <virgule> !info dosbox
[08:35] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[08:36] <nalioth> flexs: if you've chosen the VESA driver, and still have nothing i am at a loss
[08:36] <HappyFool> corine: you need to enable multiverse / universe -- this is not hard to do with synaptic
[08:36] <corine> what is it?
[08:36] <HappyFool> what is synaptic?
[08:36] <nalioth> ubotu tell flexs about resolution
[08:36] <corine> no, multi/uni
[08:37] <flexs> uboutu tell me ........
[08:37] <corine> i cant get into synaptic tho :( root password isnt accepted
[08:37] <HappyFool> corine: oh. extra software repositories, which do not have the same level of support as main/restricted
[08:37] <HappyFool> corine: use your user password
[08:37] <corine> oh let me try :)
[08:37] <cbreathe> Anyone have time to help me get sound working? I'm kind of stumped.
[08:37] <nalioths_dog> corine: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:37] <nalioths_dog> corine: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:38] <nalioth> cbreathe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:38] <corine> O_o
[08:38] <cbreathe> nalioth: I've been through the steps on that page.
[08:38] <flexs> ubotu: tel me about resolution.....
[08:38] <ubotu> flexs: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:38] <nalioth> cbreathe: ok, that's good to know (i'm not up on my sound problems)
[08:38] <corine> HappyFool, synaptic didnt do anything first time; second try gave Error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status
[08:39] <nalioth> flexs: check your messages, he sent a private message to you
[08:39] <nalioth> flexs: ubotu is a robot
[08:39] <cbreathe> nalioth: Thanks, though.
[08:39] <HappyFool> corine: try 'sudo synaptic' from a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> terminal)
[08:39] <nalioth> corine: run synaptic from terminal
[08:39] <flexs> ubotu: i try to configure my video card, but i ever end ever get blank black screen, where is problem ?
[08:39] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, flexs
[08:39] <nalioth> flexs: ubotu is not alive, it is a program
[08:39] <corine> root pwd or my own?
[08:39] <nalioth> !resolution
[08:39] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:40] <HappyFool> your own
[08:40] <nalioth> flexs: read what ubotu said about resolution
[08:40] <nalioth> corine: there is no root password
[08:40] <flexs> ok i try reed...
[08:40] <corine> corine is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:40] <nalioths_dog> corine: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:40] <HappyFool> corine: how did you install ubuntu? did you at any point specify a root password?
[08:40] <nalioth> corine: are we using ubuntu?
[08:41] <corine> i didnt install it myself; i know there is a root password
[08:41] <corine> and yes. its ubuntu :)
[08:41] <HappyFool> corine: hmm
[08:41] <corine> and wiki.ubumtu.com isnt opening
[08:41] <nalioth> corine: well that is very strange
[08:41] <HappyFool> corine: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <monk> i'm wondering if the person who installed added corine after his/her account
[08:41] <corine> Connected to ...
[08:41] <HappyFool> corine: what does 'grep admin /etc/group' say?
[08:41] <monk> are secondary accounts added to the sudoers list?
[08:42] <HappyFool> monk: not by default, i don't think
[08:42] <corine> lpadmin:x:107:harald
[08:42] <corine> admin:x:109:harald
[08:42] <corine> thats my father
[08:42] <HappyFool> corine: what is your username ? harald?
[08:42] <HappyFool> ah
[08:42] <corine> corine is me :)
[08:42] <corine> synaptic does work for him
[08:42] <HappyFool> corine: if you have root, i presume you're allowed to perform admin tasks?
[08:43] <corine> i dont know if i 'have root', but i do have the pwd
[08:43] <HappyFool> corine: the reason i ask, is that you can just add yourself to the 'admin' group; sudo will then work for you
[08:43] <corine> how do i know?
[08:43] <HappyFool> corine: ask your dad ;)
[08:43] <corine> does he have to have added me to a list of root users?
[08:44] <pfox> anyone ever got bootsplash to work with ubuntu?
[08:44] <corine> if so, probably not
[08:44] <HappyFool> corine: it will make your life easier re synaptic etc
[08:44] <HappyFool> corine: but he gave you root's password ? or not?
[08:44] <corine> yes
[08:44] <corine> can i login as root via the login screen maybe?
[08:45] <jayar> never do that
[08:45] <HappyFool> corine: err. i guess. that's not really encouraged
[08:45] <corine> ohmm i wont then
[08:45] <anacron> why is it bad to login as root?
[08:46] <anacron> i mean, login in gnome as root?
[08:46] <monk> anacron: then everything you run is run as root
[08:46] <HappyFool> corine: here's a workaround for now: 'su -c synaptic' -- enter root's password when prompted
[08:46] <anacron> monk: yeah and what happens then?
[08:46] <HappyFool> corine: however, i'd recommend adding yourself to the admin group; after all, you already have the root password
[08:46] <chx> I plan to buy a Razer Diamondback mouse. Anyone using that ?
[08:47] <monk> anacron: so, if you're not root, what happens if you do `rm -rf /`?
[08:47] <corine> yeah ill ask him
[08:47] <monk> vs what happens if you are ?
[08:47] <flexs> ubotu: hallo...
[08:47] <ubotu> flexs: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:47] <anacron> monk: :D okay i got the point, but usually you login as a root because you have to do something as a root
[08:47] <corine> HappyFool, Authentication failure ?
[08:47] <monk> anacron: *I* usually login as root from a console rather than gnome
[08:48] <flexs> ubotu: how is you name
[08:48] <HappyFool> corine: erk. xauth ?
[08:48] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, flexs
[08:48] <corine> HappyFool, excus me?
[08:48] <monk> anacron: or use a terminal window...
[08:48] <HappyFool> corine: try this: 'su -c ls'
[08:48] <flexs> ubout: how can i get root...
[08:48] <anacron> monk: me too, but i just wanted to know is there really some other reason than careless user
[08:48] <nalioth> anacron: and while the gui has root powers it has been known to screw up the whole systems permissions
[08:48] <flexs> ubotu: how can i get root
[08:48] <ubotu> flexs: I give up, what is it?
[08:48] <splitta> anyone running xfce with ubuntu ?
[08:48] <corine> HappyFool, same problem
[08:48] <HappyFool> flexs: ubotu, for all his mischievous charm, is rather ... ah. limited. ESS TEE EWE PEE EYE DEE, in other words.
[08:48] <nalioth> anacron: making the system unusable by regular users until it's repaired
[08:49] <HappyFool> corine: then you don't have root's password ;)
[08:49] <HappyFool> corine: or you're typing it in wrong
[08:49] <flexs> ubotu: how big are you ?
[08:49] <nalioth> flexs: ubotu is a robot
[08:49] <ubotu> flexs: I think you lost me on that one
[08:49] <corine> HappyFool, thats the only possibility?
[08:49] <anacron> nalioth: oh well that makes some sense
[08:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my god the have a lot of wall papers
[08:49] <flexs> ubotu: linux ?
[08:49] <ubotu> well, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:49] <nalioth> holy cow
[08:49] <HappyFool> corine: um. I use sudo, so i'm not too familiar with su error messages
[08:49] <flexs> ubotu: screen resolution
[08:49] <ubotu> flexs: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:50] <flexs> ubotu: video card
[08:50] <ubotu> flexs: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:50] <Hentai> ChurcH_of_FoamY: link
[08:50] <zenlunatic> What is a CardBus interface?
[08:50] <Hentai> god I need tab compelete
[08:50] <anacron> ubotu: stepmania
[08:50] <ubotu> anacron: I give up, what is it?
[08:50] <HappyFool> flexs: please do a /query ubotu so you guys can chat in private ;)
[08:50] <corine> HappyFool, getting added to the admin group will fix this all?
[08:50] <anacron> :<
[08:50] <nalioth> Hentai: you dont have it?
[08:50] <anacron> :D
[08:50] <Hentai> zenlunatic pcmica
[08:50] <HappyFool> corine: it will let you use sudo
[08:50] <Hentai> err well its 32bit
[08:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Hentai http://www.deviantart.com/
[08:50] <airmikey> in my Xdefault i have aterm opening up transparent...when i first created the xdefault folder it did..but once i rebooted my system ,aterm is back to the basic white background
[08:50] <anacron> hentai... well that's a focusing nick
[08:50] <corine> HappyFool, and the synaptic?
[08:51] <Hentai> oh there
[08:51] <HappyFool> corine: many of the ubuntu menu entries (e.g., for synaptic) automatically use sudo to run with root privileges
[08:51] <corine> ah
[08:51] <corine> so thats a yes? :)
[08:51] <HappyFool> yes
[08:51] <HappyFool> but i don't know why su isn't working ;)
[08:51] <corine> alright... ill be harassing him then
[08:51] <HappyFool> well, i suspect it is a password thing
[08:51] <corine> yeah it only works at his account
[08:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Hentai i'm only on page 4 of 13,593,997 O_O
[08:52] <HappyFool> oh -- maybe su is also limited to the admin group.
[08:52] <Hentai> lol
[08:52] <corine> my first guess had something to do with keyboard settings; this keyboard has two layouts and a hardware switch... but thats probably nonsense
[08:53] <anacron> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have check out pu-sama's pictures they are something marvelous
[08:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anacron can you give me a link so i don't loose my place?
[08:53] <anacron> ChurcH_of_FoamY: http://pu-sama.deviantart.com/
[08:54] <gotonpo> Can someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right/left instead of underneath? i can get it to happen in the file browser, but not on the desktop...
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anacron thanx ^_^
[08:54] <corine> HappyFool, thanks a lot :) i think i know enough; otherwise ill see you soon ;)
[08:54] <flexs> nalioth: ok i getthe point, thanx....
[08:54] <HappyFool> corine: good luck
[08:54] <splitta> anyone running xfce with ubuntu ?
[08:54] <corine> thanks
[08:54] <virgule> splitta: I do
[08:54] <virgule> shhh
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anacron OMG! O_O thats some insane art ^_^
[08:54] <anacron> ChurcH_of_FoamY: bw-inc is another one if you like manga/anime style
[08:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i do
[08:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[08:55] <splitta> virgule...works ok ?  easy to install ?
[08:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anacron i think i'm gonna print that one out on my hp plotter
[08:56] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: can't you middle or shift click for a new window?
[08:56] <virgule> splitta: yes.. all fine as far as I can tell. I installed with apt-get install xfce4
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes but for some reason it dosen't always work
[08:56] <anacron> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i have colored one picture from pu-samas collection, but don't tell anyone :D
[08:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh wow awsome
[08:56] <Hentai> join ##apple
[08:57] <phenomeno> do you people the question that asked a time ago? cause someone advised me k3b en somone other an other program and i dont remember the name of that program :s
[08:57] <splitta> virgule..great...i find both kde and gnome a little cumbersome on my athlon 500
[08:57] <virgule> i hear ya, im (stuck) with a powerpc 300mhz
[08:57] <virgule> running KDE3.4.1
[08:58] <cbreathe> This is so weird. It seems like everything should be working.
[08:59] <virgule> I have installed a lot of these WM (xfce4, KDE, GNOME, blackbox, fluxbox, e16, WindowMaker among a couple others I dont recall) they all work fine, I think ;)
[08:59] <splitta> virgule...i was never able to get realplayer 8 running correctly on 4.2
[08:59] <phenomeno> no one can help me?
[08:59] <virgule> oh.. I never even tried
[08:59] <HappyFool> phenomeno: maybe gnomebaker?
[08:59] <phenomeno> could be i will try :)
[09:00] <gotonpo> is it possible to put text beside an icon instead of underneath on the desktop?
[09:00] <GigaClon> how to run .pyc files?
[09:00] <splitta> i find on mdk 10.1 xfce is a reasonable compromise
[09:00] <HappyFool> GigaClon: 'python <filename>.pyc' ought to work
[09:01] <cbreathe> Anyone know anything about debugging sound? T_T
[09:01] <HappyFool> GigaClon: typically python apps/scripts are distributed as source, though
[09:01] <HappyFool> GigaClon: in which case you can do 'python <filename>.py'
[09:01] <nalioth> phenomeno: gnomebaker
[09:01] <nalioth> phenomeno: graveman
[09:01] <GigaClon> www.twobrotherssoftware.com
[09:01] <nalioth> Razor-X: glad you could join us
[09:01] <phenomeno> but that are all programs the burn a cd , I think i didn't explain well
[09:02] <Razor-X> nalioth: heh
[09:02] <Razor-X> I got tnt working, finally
[09:02] <GigaClon> pygame.error: mixer system not initialized
[09:02] <Razor-X> even though emacs terminals have shit support for curses (don't even know how people run irssi in it, though I don't use irssi)
[09:03] <phenomeno> alcohol120% make a virtual cd drive and there you can put in you cue files so that seems that it is a real driver and than you can install/play/...
[09:03] <Razor-X> and now w3 works
[09:03] <Razor-X> and now, i'm happy ;0
[09:03] <Razor-X> *;)
[09:03] <nalioth> phenomeno: you need to make an image using k3b or gnomebaker and then ask someone how to mount it
[09:03] <HappyFool> Razor-X: did you get emacspeak working?
[09:03] <Razor-X> HappyFool: nopes
[09:03] <GigaClon> anyone know about pygame?
[09:04] <Razor-X> I wasn't too enthusiastic about that anyways, though
[09:04] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:04] <bassinboy> need some help.... how can i print a .ps?
[09:04] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i found some stuff about linking emacspeak to festival, (called emf) but that's not in ubuntu's repos
[09:04] <Razor-X> bassinboy: you can convert it to .pdf
[09:04] <HappyFool> Razor-X: and festival sounds a little weird, anyway
[09:04] <phenomeno> I can make an image of a cue file with thiose programs?
[09:04] <bassinboy> Razor-X: i have it as a PDF
[09:04] <Razor-X> bassinboy: then, why can't you print it?
[09:05] <bassinboy> i dont know the command to the prnter
[09:05] <HappyFool> GigaClon: you can install 'solarwolf' (from ubuntu repositories) to test pygame
[09:05] <Razor-X> is the printer configured?
[09:05] <bassinboy> yes
[09:05] <bassinboy> i'm using xpdf
[09:05] <Razor-X> try "lpr" as your printer program
[09:05] <Needinghelp> Hey guys i have an RT2500 base wireless card. I have to do a fewthings to get it to work. Now when i reboot the computer i have to redo all these steps again
[09:05] <HappyFool> erk. installing solarwolf requires installing atlas. there's a weird dependency
[09:05] <BiSK-8> how can i change the time on the clock?
[09:05] <Needinghelp> is there a way i can make it automatic
[09:06] <bassinboy> Razor-X: Thanks :) ... didn't think itworked, but it tried it again
[09:06] <Razor-X> bassinboy: as long as the printer works in CUPS, lpr should work, or feed it something custom
[09:06] <Razor-X> like here's my lpr string:
[09:06] <nalioth> brb
[09:06] <Razor-X> lpr -PEpsonStylusC66
[09:07] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: you can write a startup script, and add to /etc/init.d, then use 'update-rc.d
[09:07] <HappyFool> aargh
[09:07] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: you can write a startup script, and add to /etc/init.d, then use 'update-rc.d' to make sure it's called on boot
[09:07] <Needinghelp> o.0
[09:07] <Razor-X> where EpsonStylusC66 is teh name of my printer
[09:07] <Razor-X> *the
[09:07] <Needinghelp> um how?
[09:07] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: see 'man init' and 'man update-rc.d' for more information
[09:07] <Needinghelp> sorry imn a noob
[09:07] <Needinghelp> k will try
[09:08] <HappyFool> if you got your networking going i'm sure you can hack this ;)
[09:08] <Needinghelp> i just followed  aguide step by step im not even sure what the commands did
[09:08] <Needinghelp> but it worked cause im online
[09:08] <HappyFool> ah
[09:08] <Razor-X> nalioth: i'm working on NewUserGuide right now
[09:09] <Needinghelp> o.0 what are run levels and stuff
[09:09] <Razor-X> Needinghelp: runlevels are as follows
[09:09] <Razor-X> levels which dictate what the computer does when it runs
[09:10] <GigaClon> HappyFool: sound doesn't work in pygame, works in everything else
[09:10] <Razor-X> they're generally integer (digit) values
[09:10] <Needinghelp> ahh
[09:10] <Razor-X> one value tells it to startup and immediately shut-off
[09:10] <Razor-X> another tells it to startup and boot into console mode
[09:10] <Razor-X> another tells it to startup and boot into X
[09:10] <Razor-X> etc.
[09:12] <Needinghelp> this is way above me comprehesion level
[09:12] <Needinghelp> even typing level it apperas
[09:12] <Razor-X> Needinghelp: if it helps... i'm 15 ;)
[09:12] <Needinghelp> oh thanx
[09:12] <Razor-X> just to make you feel worse about yourself and do more
[09:12] <Razor-X> read the manpages, that's the best way to learn, definitely
[09:13] <Needinghelp> i dont have time to learn
[09:13] <Razor-X> you don't have time to read? *gasp*
[09:13] <Needinghelp> i leave again for work for a month and i need to get this up and running for m y lil bro
[09:13] <Razor-X> XD
[09:13] <dapimp53> Hey I have a quick question about wireless connection. It askes for my WEP key but I use a WPA Key... does that matter?
[09:13] <Razor-X> ahhh
[09:13] <Needinghelp> or else i would'
[09:13] <Razor-X> well, a month's reading can learn you a lot
[09:13] <Needinghelp> yeah
[09:13] <Razor-X> I learned LaTeX from lshort in 2 days
[09:13] <Needinghelp> cause i had this up and working before i went outta town last month but they hod a power outtage and the comp rebooted
[09:13] <Razor-X> obviously, I coludn't do anything _spectacular_
[09:14] <Razor-X> but, hey, enough to work it
[09:14] <Needinghelp> and then wireless disapeared
[09:14] <dapimp53> I also need help getting my touchpad to work... so if anyone can help with either of those
[09:15] <Needinghelp> *sigh*
[09:15] <Razor-X> dapimp53: what's the problem?
[09:15] <Razor-X> errr
[09:15] <Razor-X> what's the laptop model ;0
[09:15] <Razor-X> *;)
[09:16] <dapimp53> my touchpad doesn't work at all... the wireless connection doesnt seem to connect. It shows the ESSID but just wont seem to work.
[09:16] <dapimp53> Its a Toshiba Satelitte
[09:16] <Razor-X> have you followed the NdisHowto/
[09:16] <Razor-X> *?
[09:16] <Razor-X> (for wireless internet)
[09:16] <dapimp53> No where is that
[09:17] <Razor-X> !wireless
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:17] <Razor-X> you can start there ;0
[09:17] <Razor-X> *;)
[09:17] <dapimp53> Do you have one for fixing my touchpad?
[09:18] <Razor-X> lemme do some googling
[09:19] <dapimp53> I tried one I found in a ubuntu forum but it ended up crashing my computer
[09:19] <dapimp53> haha
[09:19] <Razor-X> what model # Toshiba Satellite?
[09:19] <emodo> woot, took 6 hours but i figured out how to get my rt2500 to work in ubuntu
[09:19] <crankben> Hi all! I've got this question: While installation I chose a resolution of 1024x768. Now I can't increase it.
[09:20] <SPORT> i have problems with just about any debian based distro on my lappy, so i leave it winderz
[09:20] <dapimp53> I believe its an A75
[09:20] <steffen> hi, i have a question about the fstab, i will mount a directory and will give access to every user, how can i make this?
[09:20] <SPORT> besides, i find it's always good to have a winderz computer, if for no other reason than to remind yourself, every now and again, of just WHY you went to linux
[09:20] <Razor-X> uggghhhh....
[09:20] <jee> what's the best source for mplayer in ubuntu? should i just use the debian-marillat packages?
[09:20] <crankben> I mean I got the dialogue under system>... but I can only lower the resolution. Can anybody help?
[09:21] <dapimp53> How do I find out what type of Nic card is in here?
[09:21] <Razor-X> dapimp53: you don't know? ;)
[09:22] <dapimp53> Not off the top of my head no
[09:22] <Razor-X> dapimp53: try running sudo lspci -v
[09:22] <Razor-X> and sorting through the output
[09:23] <Panzerboy> any gpg gurus around?
[09:23] <nalioth> steffen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:23] <steffen> thx
[09:23] <Velcan> crankben:  you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf i believe
[09:23] <nalioth> Panzerboy: mebbe i can help with gpg
[09:24] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i would like to add more e-mail addresses of mine to a gpg key
[09:24] <dapimp53> Is this it?
[09:24] <dapimp53> 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[09:24] <jee> what's multiverse? how does it differ from universe?
[09:24] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i have this key generated for an e-mail address i have and i would like to add the other 2 addresses i have to this key
[09:24] <Panzerboy> is it possible?
[09:25] <jf6> stop
[09:25] <HappyFool> jee: multiverse packages have more restrictive licensing in some way
[09:25] <jee> HappyFool, ah, ok. thanks
[09:25] <nalioth> Panzerboy: wow you're out of the park on that one
[09:26] <nalioth> Panzerboy: have you been to some gpg howtos?
[09:26] <[koji] > Panzerboy: Have you try enigmail?
[09:27] <xliu> may I use acpid and apmd together at the same time?
[09:27] <SPORT> where are the cursors hid on ubuntu?
[09:27] <Panzerboy> nalioth: not yet :)
[09:27] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i will check out some howto's :)
[09:27] <pfox> i've got a strange kernel prob. i've got the kernel build and it runs, but there's no output on the screen during bootup. i get the initial kernel messages, but nothing for the init process
[09:27] <pfox> anyone seen this before?
[09:27] <SPORT> i have a cursor theme that i wanna install. where do i put them in gnome?
[09:27] <Panzerboy> [koji] : i am using enigmail but i can't figure out how it can help me with this issue
[09:27] <DAWKIRST> Hey. Does anyone knows a way I can edit ID3 tags?
[09:28] <nalioth> SPORT: probably ~/.themes  ?
[09:28] <nalioth> [koji] : Panzerboy wants to associate more than one email addy to his one gpg key
[09:28] <HappyFool> DAWKIRST: search for id3 in synaptic, or do 'apt-cache search id3'
[09:28] <nalioth> DAWKIRST: easytag
[09:28] <xliu> which one is better? acpid or apmd?
[09:29] <HappyFool> pfox: this is a bit of a shot in the dark: did you make an initrd image?
[09:29] <pfox> HappyFool, i did do, yeah
[09:29] <[koji] > Panzerboy: You can using OpenPGP Key manaagemen of enigmail
[09:29] <decaf> xliu: acpi is newer, most probably your motherboard supports only one of them
[09:29] <eyequeue> Panzerboy:  http://gnupg.org/documentation/howtos.html.en
[09:29] <emodo> is there any book out there dedicated to ubuntu?
[09:29] <Needinghelp> say i threw in an 80gb hdd from a win2k machine into the linux box how would i format said drive to ext2?
[09:30] <decaf> Needinghelp: use cfdisk to create a linux partition first
[09:30] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  cfddisk /dev/hdb && e2fsck /dev/hdb1(or similar)
[09:30] <[koji] > Panzerboy: There is only one Primary id the rest will be Secondary
[09:30] <Needinghelp> kool
[09:31] <HappyFool> pfox: ok, then i don't know
[09:31] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  sudo for those commands of course :)
[09:31] <nalioth> Panzerboy: there you go, [koji]  has enlightened us
[09:31] <pfox> HappyFool, crap :) oh well
[09:31] <decaf> Needinghelp: I can't stress enough, how important is choose the right disk
[09:31] <Needinghelp> yeah
[09:31] <pfox> anyone got any ideas why there's no output from the boot process? but the system does boot properly otherwise
[09:31] <Needinghelp> cfdisk not found?
[09:31] <xliu> decaf, thanks, i am using Dell Inspiron 5000e(pIII 700, 256mb ram). Do you think my mother board support acpi?
[09:31] <HappyFool> eyequeue: you meant maybe mkfs ?
[09:31] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  this is in ubuntu?
[09:31] <Panzerboy> [koji] : i see :)
[09:31] <Needinghelp> yeah
[09:31] <Panzerboy> nalioth: thanks a bunch ! :)
[09:32] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  lol, yeah
[09:32] <decaf> xliu: no, afaik
[09:32] <[koji] > Panzerboy: Is that what you want I hope
[09:32] <xliu> afaik?
[09:32] <Needinghelp> primarey or logical?
[09:32] <valtaric> can anyone tell me how to get xmms.tar.gz to install on ubuntu?
[09:32] <decaf> xliu: as far as I know
[09:32] <xliu> ok, thanks decaf
[09:32] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  cfddisk /dev/hdb && mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb1(or similar)
[09:32] <decaf> valtaric: you dont need it, we have deb package
[09:33] <valtaric> were can a get my hands on a copy i can't find one.
[09:33] <Needinghelp> yep eyequeue that worked
[09:33] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  if you just want one big fat partition on it, primary will suffice
[09:33] <Needinghelp> k
[09:33] <splitta> where is the ubuntu repository ?
[09:33] <flugh> you know, ubuntu is just nice to use. good work  (in case anyone cares)
[09:33] <nalioth> !repositorys
[09:33] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:33] <decaf> valtaric: take a look at ubuntuguide.org, add extra repos and use synaptic to install xmms (I prefer beep-media-player, gtk2 fork of xmms)
[09:34] <valtaric> ok thanks alot
[09:34] <nalioths_dog> splitta: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:34] <cbreathe> Okay, finally got sound working, but I've run into another issue.
[09:34] <nalioths_dog> decaf: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[09:35] <decaf> nalioths_dog: sure
[09:35] <maciek> hmm, has anyone noticed a lot of "MD5Sum mismatch" errors in the repositories?
[09:35] <cbreathe> maciek: That's the issue I'm having!
[09:35] <eyequeue> decaf:  other than gtk1 vs gtk2, does beep differ?
[09:35] <nalioth> maciek: cbreathe the repos are wonky
[09:35] <maciek> well, I'm certainly glad that I'm not the only one.
[09:35] <flugh> maciek, me too. seems some files have been trucated
[09:35] <cbreathe> nalioth: So it's not just me?
[09:35] <HappyFool> cbreathe, maciek: us.archive is having problems
[09:36] <nalioth> maciek: cbreathe use the source nalioths_dog sent to splitta above
[09:36] <cbreathe> nalioth: OK.
[09:36] <HappyFool> cbreathe: (et al) change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <cbreathe> Oops, sorry.
[09:36] <nalioth> cbreathe: either way
[09:36] <maciek> okay, thanks guys.
[09:36] <decaf> eyequeue: xmms seems unmaintained
[09:36] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  what seems to be wrong with us.*?  it is responding here
[09:36] <maciek> HappyFool, I'll try that.
[09:38] <xophEr> What to I need to be able to install Ubuntu on a SATA-drive?
[09:38] <cbreathe> xophEr: It just worked for me.
[09:39] <cbreathe> xophEr: Didn't have to do anything special.
[09:39] <decaf> xophEr: nothing specific, if your ata controller supported by kernel
[09:39] <xophEr> ok
[09:39] <xophEr> thanks
[09:39] <HappyFool> eyequeue: people having been having problems with it
[09:40] <HappyFool> eyequeue: i can't tell why it would work for one person and not another -- have you actually installed anything?
[09:40] <Nieke> yack, bad lag: any ideas how to solve 'freeze' problems (kernel-panics) using hoary-amd64?
[09:41] <maciek> by the way, would any of you be able to suggest the risk of switching to the breezy repositories now?
[09:41] <HappyFool> Nieke: look on the wiki; e.g, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[09:41] <sky_monkey007> hey everyone.  Could anyone suggest a good wireless signal strength monitoring applet for Gnome?
[09:41] <HappyFool> aargh
[09:41] <HappyFool> Nieke: i meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSystemCrash
[09:41] <Nieke> ta HappyFool
[09:41] <mantero> hi everybody
[09:41] <maciek> I have a package there that I really need, and I don't think it would cause much of a problem for me.
[09:41] <blackout> are there any gmailish webmail programs?
[09:42] <mantero> excuse me, but I have a question about the microphones
[09:42] <mantero> i don't know how to configure it
[09:45] <sergio> hello
[09:46] <valtaric> can anyone show me how to add an extra repitory so i can get xmms
[09:46] <valtaric> ?
[09:47] <maciek> which repository do you want to add, valtaric?
[09:47] <sergio> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[09:47] <sergio> look there
[09:47] <valtaric> i wan to try adn get xmms on my system and the last person i talked to to me i neede to get it from a respitories and i have no clue how to do that (i'm new to ubuntu)
[09:48] <HappyFool> !apt
[09:48] <ubotu> it has been said that apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[09:48] <HappyFool> !repositories
[09:48] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:48] <trebuchet> hey
[09:48] <HappyFool> valtaric: you can read about repositories, and how to use them, at those two links
[09:48] <mohamed> sdfa
[09:48] <[koji] > !wine
[09:48] <ubotu> [koji] : I give up, what is it?
[09:49] <valtaric> ok thanks
[09:49] <trebuchet> i've got a iomega buz capture card that i'd like to get working on ubuntu. can anybody help?
[09:50] <Panzerboy> [koji] : thanks a lot for the enigmail suggestion
[09:50] <Panzerboy> [koji] : i managed to do the trick quite nicely :)
[09:50] <bob_> hello! I'm trying to make a splash image so I don't have to watch all the stuff loading. is this possible? I added a splash image to grub but it's only displayed in the background of the grub menu not after that.. :(
[09:50] <[koji] > Panzerboy: glad to help
[09:50] <moire> hi
[09:50] <dapimp53> I just installed ndiswrapper-utils... From what I take I can load my windows driver
[09:50] <dapimp53> is that correct?
[09:50] <Valle> hey can anyone tell me the command to get the rest disk space?
[09:50] <moire> where can i get sources for the ubuntu kernel? are there any ubuntu patches?
[09:51] <bob_> Valle, df .
[09:51] <[koji] > df -Th
[09:51] <Valle> thanks :)
[09:51] <HappyFool> moire: try linux-source-2.6.10
[09:52] <decaf> moire: you should install kernel-package and read its documents
[09:52] <moire> ah linux-source, i thinked of kernel-source :D
[09:52] <Needinghelp> how do i unmount a drive
[09:52] <moire> umount
[09:52] <ubuntu> salut i fora
[09:52] <Needinghelp>  unmount /dev/hdb1
[09:52] <Needinghelp> bash: unmount: command not found
[09:52] <Needinghelp> :(
[09:52] <HappyFool> umount
[09:52] <Needinghelp> doh
[09:52] <moire> without n
[09:53] <HappyFool> i've made the same mistake ;)
[09:53] <moire> you are beginners? ;)
[09:53] <eyequeue> epxerienced poeple neevr tpyo
[09:54] <Needinghelp> umount: /home/steven/Mp3: device is busy
[09:54] <Needinghelp> how is it busy?
[09:54] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  are you "in" a directory on that partition?
[09:54] <Needinghelp> no
[09:55] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: try 'lsof /home/steven/Mp3'   <-- should tell you what programs are accessing that mount
[09:55] <hajiki> Can Totem use the win32codecs so that I don't have to install mplayer?
[09:56] <Needinghelp> COMMAND    PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE  SIZE NODE NAME
[09:56] <Needinghelp> gam_serve 6944 steven   66r   DIR   3,65  4096    5 /home/steven/Mp3
[09:56] <Needinghelp> gam_serve 6944 steven   67r   DIR   3,65 69632  279 /home/steven/Mp3/Steven's Musik
[09:56] <moire> HappyFool: do you suggest 2.6.10 or 11 for me? ;)
[09:56] <jee> hajiki, why wouldn't you want to install mplayer? ;)
[09:56] <HappyFool> 2.6.10
[09:56] <Razor-X> jee: cuz it's stupid! ;)
[09:56] <decaf> hajiki: there is a way to do it. installing old totem with xine backend. seems buggy
[09:57] <HappyFool> moire: that's what hoary is using
[09:57] <HappyFool> moire: there are some kernelcompile howto's on the wiki
[09:57] <moire> i know, what against 11?
[09:57] <Needinghelp> Happyfool so what program is using it?
[09:57] <jee> Razor-X, it's the best
[09:57] <hajiki> jee, mplayer sound and video goes out of sync and it annoys me :(
[09:57] <eyequeue> moire:  ubuntu wasn't designed to support it
[09:57] <jee> hajiki, oh
[09:57] <kismet-nohd> has anyone managed to use a pcmcia Prism2 card with kismet *monitor mode* on ubuntu running off CD on a laptop with NO hard drive?
[09:57] <Computer__Guru> I just wanted to say
[09:57] <Computer__Guru> Ubuntu ROCKS!
[09:57] <HappyFool> moire: i don't know. i'm conservative ;)
[09:57] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: it's some file-monitoring doodad
[09:58] <moire> eyqueue: what is so different?
[09:58] <hajiki> decaf, lol i was about to install totem-xine, but knowing that i guess i'll stick with mplayer
[09:58] <Computer__Guru> It's won me over from the knoppix-based deb system I used to run
[09:58] <Needinghelp> any idea how to kill it?
[09:58] <eyequeue> moire:  hoary was built around 2.6.10, breezy will be around 2.6.12
[09:58] <moire> ah, i understand
[09:58] <Needinghelp> cool
[09:58] <Needinghelp> it just went away
[09:58] <Computer__Guru> I hear breezy will have a 5 year support program
[09:58] <eyequeue> moire:  i know .11 managed to break my sound and networking
[09:58] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: try 'pkill gam_serve'
[09:58] <[koji] > Needinghelp:  kill <PID> be wary though
[09:59] <Needinghelp> its all good now
[09:59] <decaf> Computer__Guru: that's for the release after breezy, at 04.2006
[09:59] <HappyFool> the Acrobatic Aardvark
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> check out what I did with my k/ubuntu system: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26283
[09:59] <moire> ok, i will use 10
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> decaf: I see. either way, that's impressive
[09:59] <moire> thx
[10:00] <Razor-X> I didn't change around my KDE much, my Eterm is home-configured though
[10:00] <Computer__Guru> you can't even tell it's kde on my system :)
[10:00] <moire> anybody tried wine?
[10:01] <Computer__Guru> once in a while, but it gives me a hell of a hangover
[10:01] <[koji] > lol
[10:01] <Computer__Guru> i prefer rum
[10:01] <Razor-X> moire: I use it for Progress Quest
[10:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i open up a tab in firefox that i closed on accedent O_o
[10:01] <trebuchet> i need some help getting my iomega buz a/v capture card working on linux. can someone please help?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> go back to that page
[10:02] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can't ;)
[10:02] <Razor-X> that's why I love Opera
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[10:02] <Razor-X> in Opera, you just Undo
[10:02] <Razor-X> et voila, C'est un tab
[10:02] <Razor-X> Computer__Guru: any particular reason?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> i just dont like it, i guess
[10:03] <eyequeue> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  you can try ^T and then up/down arrows in the history
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> im a big firefox advocate, though
[10:03] <eyequeue> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  or ^t and the first few letters of the url
[10:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[10:03] <Needinghelp> how can i find out what filesystem a hdd is using
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> okay, in gaim, i keep setting the chat windows up a certain way, and they dont save
[10:04] <Computer__Guru> like i make the editbox one line, and remove the formatting toolbar
[10:04] <Computer__Guru> and every time i open a new chat, they go back... is there not a way to stop this behavior?
[10:05] <decaf> Computer__Guru:   that's why I use gossip, everyone here should avoid IM systems other than jabber
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> blah
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> tell that to the 800 collective people on 6 different systems that i use
[10:05] <Razor-X> go back to what?
[10:05] <Razor-X> ahhh, I don't use gaim
[10:05] <Razor-X> I use TNT
[10:06] <trebuchet> WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support     WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
[10:06] <trebuchet> how do i fix those?
[10:06] <eyequeue> i thought jabber could interface with those other systems?
[10:06] <Computer__Guru> besides, i have a really low icq uin, and a bunch of illegals on yahoo im not prepared to give up :D
[10:07] <Razor-X> eyequeue: it can
[10:07] <decaf> Computer__Guru: we have our own jabber-server with three friends. It's impossible to have 800 real friends hehe
[10:07] <Razor-X> but, it's not very full-featured
[10:07] <trebuchet> how about a simpler problem... i want to increase the font sizes on my system... how/where/
[10:07] <Needinghelp> /dev/hdb1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux
[10:07] <Needinghelp>   <-- what filesystem is this hdd using?
[10:07] <eyequeue> decaf:  "real friends" are those who heard i won the lottery and want things, just ask them :)
[10:07] <againstme> is it possible to install non deb packages on ubuntu?
[10:07] <Computer__Guru> either way, i use gaim, and I'm happy with it
[10:08] <Needinghelp> cause im trying to get that thing to be automounted
[10:08] <kbrooks> Needinghelp, a linux file system
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> except it wont keep my settings in chat
[10:08] <Needinghelp> and i cant seem to get the fs right
[10:08] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  /etc/fstab
[10:08] <Needinghelp> i went in there
[10:08] <Needinghelp> and tried specifying Linux as the fs but it dont like it
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> try ext3
[10:09] <Needinghelp> mount: unknown filesystem type 'Linux'
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> or ext2 or whatever it is
[10:09] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: have you run mkfs ?
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> linux isnt actually an fs type
[10:09] <HappyFool> Needinghelp: linux filesystems should be auto-detected
[10:09] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  'Linux" isn't a fs type
[10:09] <Needinghelp> so in fstab set it to auto then?
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> try specifying auto as the type
[10:09] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  what mkfs command did you use?
[10:09] <againstme> is it possible to install non .deb packages on ubuntu?
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> againstme: sure it is
[10:10] <eyequeue> againstme:  not advised
[10:10] <HappyFool> againstme: you can try using 'alien' to convert rpms to deb, but Your Mileage May Vary
[10:10] <eyequeue> againstme:  see man alien for details
[10:10] <Needinghelp> cfdisk /dev/hdb && mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb1
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> againstme: use alien to convert rpm's to .deb, or just unzip a src tarball and configure and install it
[10:10] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  okay, your fs type is "ext2"
[10:11] <zooluciones> how do you make .deb pack?
[10:11] <againstme> what if its a .tar file and the main files inside are install.sh? the install.sh does nothing
[10:11] <Needinghelp> /dev/hdb1       /home/steven/Mp3 ext2    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[10:11] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  something like this ... /dev/hda12      /exports        ext2    defaults        0       3
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> againstme: try: sh install.sh
[10:11] <Needinghelp> is that a proper line for fstab?
[10:11] <Needinghelp> oh
[10:11] <againstme> tried that and no dice
[10:11] <ginvent> Anyone have a canon pixma iP1500 running on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> check the readme file then
[10:11] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  change it to your needs of course
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> there must be some special instructions
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> what is the package?
[10:12] <againstme> its on my bros computer but i think one of them is limewire
[10:12] <Needinghelp> ok so only 1 thing left to do
[10:12] <ginvent> I got this free printer and I can't get it to work on this silly thing... lol... damn canon.
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> does anybody know what's up with this??: jay      :0           194.135.4.8      Sat Jul  9 06:42 - 07:09  (00:26)
[10:12] <Needinghelp> that is get it so i dont have to re install the wireless card everytime the computer reboots
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> that's NOT my ip
[10:13] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  /etc/network/interfaces, probably
[10:13] <Needinghelp> is that a txt file?
[10:13] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: where do you see that?
[10:13] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  auto eth1, for example
[10:14] <ginvent> I can't get the canon japan drivers installed because of dependency issue... damn, it is just a freaking printer... :D
[10:14] <Needinghelp> so for the wireless card it would be auto ra0
[10:14] <Computer__Guru> HappyFool: last -d (EVERY time it shows my username, including THIS session, it uses that IP)
[10:14] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  yes, any "good" linux app should be configurable via flat text files in /etc :)
[10:14] <Computer__Guru> HappyFool: and others have reported the same thing, event he same ip
[10:15] <eyequeue> Needinghelp:  well, look at the existing stanza for the interface you use ('man 5 interfaces' for explanation how that file works)
[10:15] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> HappyFool: try a last -d i bet you get it too
[10:15] <HappyFool> i guess curses that output a bit bigger
[10:15] <ginvent> Harumph... it seems I have stepped on a multi-person unanswered question.
[10:15] <Needinghelp> wish me luck
[10:16] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  samara city bank in russia? :(
[10:16] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: actually i only have my own username and reboot
[10:16] <ginvent> LOL no wonder frys was giving the printer away...
[10:16] <Computer__Guru> yeah, now what ip is there?
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> i only have my username and reboot as well
[10:17] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: oh, riht
[10:17] <HappyFool> right, even
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> yeah it's a bug
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> gotta be
[10:17] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: some guy was on earlier and said it was a bug
[10:18] <eyequeue> bug in what i wonder
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> talking about pax?
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> i wonder too
[10:18] <andrew__> What directory would I install applications into?
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> i got half a mind to setup a shell account for someone and let them login just to see if it shows their actual ip or the russian one
[10:19] <Walkman> Hello UB gurus !
[10:19] <HappyFool> have you looked on bugzilla?
[10:19] <decaf> andrew__: you need basic unix knowledge
[10:19] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: ah, it seems to be there
[10:19] <HappyFool> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12568
[10:19] <eyequeue> andrew__:  ~/bin/ ?
[10:19] <TheDarkSide> i have one stupid question ;) - how long must i wait for ubuntu cds after i reg ?:)
[10:20] <Walkman> Could anybody help me with time-admin ??
[10:20] <eyequeue> TheDarkSide:  i've heard 6 weeks?
[10:20] <IneedHelp> ok
[10:20] <IneedHelp> wekk it worked
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> andrew__: stop thinking windows. most binaries install into /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin while the data for those binarties usually install into /usr/share or /usr/share/apps, while the libraries for thise binaries install into /lib, /usr/lib, or /usr/local/lib
[10:20] <paxmaster> do I have to recompile the kernel for iptables to fully work
[10:20] <IneedHelp> but now that folder i mounted i dont have write permissions to it?
[10:20] <TheDarkSide> eyequeue ok, thx
[10:21] <Walkman> I want simply to use Monday as the first day of the week ... help anyone ?
[10:21] <eyequeue> TheDarkSide:  i imagine it may be sooner now that the "rush" is over
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> whyw ould you do that? monday is not the first day of the week
[10:21] <dapimp53> I am trying to use ndiswrapper to try to install the driver for my Atheros AR5004G Wireless Card but have a few problems. I try sudo ndiswraper -i net5211.inf and it gives me a command not found
[10:21] <dapimp53> any ideas?
[10:21] <TheDarkSide> eyequeue i hope so...
[10:21] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  in some locales it is
[10:22] <leahcim> andrew__:  what would you like to install?
[10:22] <Computer__Guru> eyequeue: well,t hat's just silly :D
[10:22] <andrew__> How do you know if a "binary" :) is installed in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[10:22] <eyequeue> andrew__:  "which foo"
[10:22] <IneedHelp> So i mounted a drive. but now it says i dont have write permission. How do i give that right to myself?
[10:22] <Computer__Guru> andrew__: whereis binary -or- which binary
[10:22] <decaf> Computer__Guru: for me its not, monday is the first day.
[10:22] <Computer__Guru> well, that's weird.
[10:23] <HappyFool> IneedHelp: you need to mount with option '-o umask=000'
[10:23] <eyequeue> andrew__:  if ubuntu installed it, it's in /usr/bin/, if a user installed it, it should be in /usr/local/bin/
[10:23] <andrew__> Okay, so say I wanted to install Azureus in the near future...
[10:23] <Computer__Guru> j0o should all be americanz!
[10:23] <HappyFool> IneedHelp: writing to NTFS partitions is not supported
[10:23] <andrew__> Okay, so if it is user-installed, it goes to /usr/local/bin?
[10:23] <eyequeue> andrew__:  install things via the package management system and they will be in /usr/bin
[10:23] <IneedHelp> no its that linux partition
[10:23] <bob_> anyone got skype working? when I try to dial a number it just hangs..
[10:23] <HappyFool> andrew__: my recommendation, which no-one ever listens to ;) is to put your own stuff in $HOME/usr
[10:23] <decaf> andrew__: did you install java? use 'java-package' (make-jpkg) for it
[10:24] <Computer__Guru> HappyFool: that's because $HOME/usr isnt int he path and would make it a royal pain int he ass
[10:24] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: nothing hacking .bashrc can't fix ;)
[10:24] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  ~/bin/ is a bit more common usuage i think
[10:24] <IneedHelp> /dev/hdb1       /home/steven/Mp3 ext2    defaults, -o umask=000        0       3        <--- is that not proper?
[10:24] <dapimp53> Can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[10:25] <HappyFool> eyequeue: yeah, for scripts etc. I had various python versions installed; they need a more-or-less compete /usr tree
[10:25] <Computer__Guru> that reminds me
[10:25] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  the uppercase is a bit non-standard and the -o is not for the fstab file
[10:25] <IneedHelp> o.0
[10:25] <Computer__Guru> HappyFool: how do i give control of such things BACk to /etc/profile where im used to?
[10:25] <andrew__> Okay, so for anything I install, /usr/local/bin, and any updates to ubuntu-installed programs or installations from ubuntu in /usr/bin?
[10:25] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: i don't think /etc/profile is sourced by gdm
[10:25] <Computer__Guru> who uses gdm? :D
[10:26] <Phrostbyte> me?
[10:26] <IneedHelp> so uh hmmm
[10:26] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: ok, how do you login?
[10:26] <Computer__Guru> ps aux | grep dm:
[10:26] <Computer__Guru> root      6879  0.0  0.2   2592   796 ?        Ss   06:15   0:00 /usr/bin/kdm
[10:26] <Computer__Guru> jay       9122  0.0  0.3   3764  1188 ?        R    16:26   0:00 sh -c ps aux | grep dm
[10:26] <IneedHelp> what would i put in fstab and what command would i use to make it writeable
[10:26] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: i don't know kdm
[10:26] <andrew__> Okay, so for anything I install, /usr/local/bin, and any updates to ubuntu-installed programs or installations from ubuntu in /usr/bin? (Is that correct?)
[10:26] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: but, if it's the same, you can look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d and add custom stuff there
[10:26] <Computer__Guru> you dont understand
[10:27] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: i don't know if kdm sources /etc/profile or not, but i suspect not
[10:27] <Computer__Guru> i want to edit one file for environment settings and have them take effect system-wide
[10:27] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:   /dev/hdb1       /home/steven/mp3 ext2    defaults        0       3
[10:27] <Computer__Guru> this used to be /etc/profile
[10:27] <IneedHelp> k i have that
[10:27] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: here's a better link for the 'last' bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8925
[10:27] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:   umount it, then chmod the mountpoint to what you want
[10:27] <IneedHelp> huh
[10:27] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  then mount it
[10:27] <decaf> andrew__: azureus install script puts all files in one directory. I installed it in ~/software/azureus. then linked it's startup scipt to ~/bin
[10:27] <ryu> hi, has anyone a source for the msttcorefonts
[10:28] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  umount /home/steven/mp3
[10:28] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: maybe you can add a '. /etc/profile' in a file to Xsession.d scripts -- i don't know if that'll work
[10:28] <decaf> ryu: it worked for me? why you need sources?
[10:28] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  chown /home/steven/mp3 steven
[10:28] <andrew__> Wow, getting confused... What's the STANDARD directory for user-installed binaries?
[10:28] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  chmod 775 /home/steven/mp3
[10:28] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  mount /home/steven/mp3
[10:28] <Phrostbyte> Anyone else have problems with XMMS hanging?
[10:29] <decaf> andrew__: for global install /opt
[10:29] <ryu> not sources, i mean a reposarty, from where i can install it, i think it translatet source wrong
[10:29] <eyequeue> andrew__:  /usr/local/bin
[10:29] <ryu> *i
[10:29] <Computer__Guru> eyequeue: but a lot of packages ignore that and install into /usr/bin anyways
[10:29] <andrew__> Sorry, coming from "Program Files" in Windows... Is there not something similiar in linux? A standard directory where you can install (or compile) applications?
[10:30] <eyequeue> andrew__:  "user-installed" meaning NOT via the pacakge management system (if you use apt-get, it goes in /usr/bin)
[10:30] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  that's not user-installed
[10:30] <MrMaDSeN> hi
[10:30] <Computer__Guru> eyequeue: but if you sudo make install it goes into /usr/bin as well
[10:30] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  that's system-installed
[10:30] <Computer__Guru> yeah yeah
[10:30] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: not responsible programs ;)
[10:30] <andrew__> Okay, thanks!
[10:30] <IneedHelp> steven@steven:~$ chown /home/steven/mp3 steven
[10:30] <IneedHelp> chown: `/home/steven/mp3': invalid user
[10:30] <IneedHelp> o.0
[10:30] <HappyFool> other way around
[10:30] <HappyFool> username first
[10:30] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  if any make install puts in in other than /usr/local/, then complain to the author :)
[10:31] <IneedHelp> oh
[10:31] <MrMaDSeN> anyone know what has become of that fine line for line guide on installing Sun Java on Ubuntu on ubuntuguide.org?
[10:31] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  lol, my bad
[10:31] <Computer__Guru> i dont user-install jack shit. i always do a sudo make install
[10:31] <HappyFool> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:31] <andrew__> Anyone have a really good linux beginner's site?
[10:31] <paul__> sudo apt-get install sun-javaj2re1.5
[10:31] <HappyFool> MrMaDSeN: you can look on the wiki
[10:31] <paul__> make sure you have the appropriate apt sources enabled
[10:31] <kbrooks> MrMaDSeN, we dont recommend the ubuguide
[10:31] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  that IS user-installed :)  why subvert the package management system btw?
[10:32] <kbrooks> lol
[10:32] <Computer__Guru> because not everything i want to run is in the universe
[10:32] <MrMaDSeN> kbrooks: ok.. that what I thought... they change it once in a while to something complety unuseful
[10:33] <ryu> the msttcorefonts arnt in the reposatys i have
[10:33] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  oh, i took "always" literally
[10:33] <kbrooks> ummm
[10:33] <paul__> use the unofficial guide. it works, the dictators at ubuntu dont like it, but it works
[10:33] <IneedHelp> ok i did that stuff eyequeue and it still says i dont have write perms
[10:33] <kbrooks> nalioth_wrkn, when did we discover that the ubuguide is bad
[10:33] <kbrooks> paul__, the ubuntu guide?
[10:33] <eyequeue> IneedHelp:  ls -ld /home/steven/mp3
[10:34] <paul__> yep
[10:34] <andrew__> My one big complaint with linux is packages... There isn't one standard package, and using a package environment seems to complicate things.
[10:34] <kbrooks> paul__,
[10:34] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[10:34] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:34] <paul__> kbrooks yes
[10:34] <IneedHelp> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-07-10 14:07 /home/steven/Mp3
[10:34] <HappyFool> andrew__: ubuntu uses apt, which works well
[10:34] <IneedHelp> o.0
[10:34] <kkathman> Has anyone around here given Koffice 1.4 a spin yet?
[10:34] <HappyFool> andrew__: package management considerably simplifies things ;) as you'll discover if you ever need to compile a complicated app
[10:34] <eyequeue> andrew__:  you may prefer something like lfs or gentoo
[10:34] <Computer__Guru> which is to say that ubuntu is debian based :)
[10:35] <flipy> hi
[10:35] <HappyFool> heh
[10:35] <HappyFool> lfs
[10:35] <HappyFool> don't be cruel!
[10:35] <Computer__Guru> yeah let's get a newb up and running on lfs, and in a month he'll know more than we do collectively :D
[10:35] <eyequeue> andrew__: different distros have different philosophies, and some place (such as ubuntu) greater emphasis on package management systems
[10:35] <flipy> is there any way to recover an ubuntu installation after a windows fixmbr/fixtool command?
[10:36] <HappyFool> flipy: yeah. there's instructions on the wiki
[10:36] <HappyFool> stand by...
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> or he'll have shot himself for breaking his system 982713691827364  times
[10:36] <flipy> oh thanks HappyFool
[10:36] <flipy> i'll look at the wiki
[10:36] <HappyFool> flipy: here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:36] <eyequeue> flipy:  no idea what they do ... did they overwrite the mbr?  if so, you may want to reinstall grub (via a boot cd)
[10:36] <flipy> eyequeue: they do overwrite the mbrt
[10:36] <leahcim> Im having a bit of trouble setting up ndiswrapper...  my laptop is an HP ze4500 my onboard wireless is Broadcom Corporation  BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> (or lilo)
[10:37] <andrew__> apt does work well, but not flawless. Why can't there just be a standardized package manager? Like what OpenOffice is doing with office documents, there should be some sort of open package, that isn't used by any one entity.
[10:37] <nalioth_wrkn> flipy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:37] <flipy> thanks guys!
[10:37] <eyequeue> flipy:  yeah, typical ms, "we are the only thing you want" attitude :)  it overwrote grub, and that's easily fixed with the intructions on the wiki
[10:37] <leahcim> I have followed theese instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683....
[10:37] <harris|u> I just installed the 32 bit version of ubuntu, I did added the repositories -> apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade -- Is there anything else I need to do to make sure all of my aps are up-to-date?
[10:37] <harris|u> - did
[10:37] <Computer__Guru> andrew__: the problem there is every package system thinks it is superior to the others. you're going to have to find the one that you like and go with it
[10:38] <HappyFool> harris|u: sounds about right
[10:38] <Razor-X> ubotu windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:38] <ubotu> okay, Razor-X
[10:38] <flipy> eyequeue: that's what I'm gonna do (well, should thought that somehow)
[10:38] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: your lack of faith in apt is .... disturbing ;)
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> i have tremendous faith in apt :)
[10:38] <leahcim> leahcim@box13:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:38] <leahcim> Password:
[10:38] <leahcim> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:38] <leahcim> leahcim@box13:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[10:38] <leahcim> Installed ndis drivers:
[10:38] <leahcim> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[10:38] <eyequeue> andrew__:  you are coming from an ms world perhaps?  one of the *good* points about linux is choice.  people can find the system that best fits their individual preferences
[10:39] <leahcim> any hints for me?
[10:39] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  lol
[10:39] <HappyFool> you need the 'identify' package before you actually know what you're installing
[10:39] <Razor-X> HappyFool: emacs based package-management, man
[10:39] <Razor-X> HappyFool: does emacs have a nethack client?
[10:39] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  in screen(1) there's actually a nethack mode :)
[10:39] <HappyFool> and we'll have 'cursed' and 'blessed' packages
[10:39] <nalioth_wrkn> leahcim: yes, stay away from ubuntuguide
[10:39] <HappyFool> Razor-X: yeah, it does, actually
[10:39] <kbrooks> lol
[10:39] <Razor-X> HappyFool: thought so
[10:39] <nalioth_wrkn> Razor-X: messages await
[10:39] <Razor-X> nalioth_wrkn: ahhh, lemme see then
[10:40] <Computer__Guru> jay@damned-box (~)$:
[10:40] <eyequeue> leahcim:  assuming you used the right password? :)
[10:40] <leahcim> heh
[10:40] <leahcim> yes
[10:40] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: with ball-and-chain to match? ;)
[10:40] <Computer__Guru> hey how do i enable the root account?
[10:40] <eyequeue> leahcim:  i was just going to say, in the future don't paste such long things, it tends to irritate in here.  i've not used ndiswrapper, sorry
[10:40] <cat_power> greets - I have a dumb question, I've just installed loki's quake2 package, and I cannot get sound.  Error is: ALSA snd error couldn't set params (Invalid argument)
[10:41] <paul__> guru
[10:41] <HappyFool> !sudo
[10:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:41] <paul__> system
[10:41] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: i think that wiki link will tell you
[10:41] <andrew__> It can be viewed as choice, or possibly confusion. One thing about a standard package management system would be easier development. You'd have a standard for installation. I think that would also really open up "choice", as new distrobutions won't have to deal with catering to one package manager or another.
[10:41] <cat_power> never had issue with sounds on quake2 - what's the cinch?
[10:41] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  it's considered a security feature of ubuntu not to
[10:41] <MrMaDSeN> apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5.0  is the right command? when adding the mirrors from wiki java site ?
[10:41] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: if not, something like 'sudo passwd root' ought to do it
[10:41] <Computer__Guru> yea yea yea i know
[10:41] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  that said, read: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:41] <Computer__Guru> iw ant it anyways
[10:41] <TheDarkSide> where can i find list what packets contains ubuntu ?
[10:42] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  i had to caveat it first :)
[10:42] <leahcim> eyequeue: : sorry abouth that, Il be more carefull in the future
[10:42] <ColonelKernel> how do I show non-active users in gaim?
[10:42] <andrew__> Then you have all the best minds from each package manager focusing on improving one.
[10:42] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: synaptic will list all the packages
[10:42] <pgidz> andrew__, take a look at www.autopackage.org this project is trying to set a standard for package management
[10:42] <TheDarkSide> synaptic ?
[10:42] <eyequeue> andrew__:  that's also the One True Distribution logic, which of course many disagree with
[10:43] <HappyFool> andrew__: unfortunately different package management systems have already been developed, and are unlikely to be abandoned by their respective promoters
[10:43] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[10:43] <TheDarkSide> HappyFool i havent still ubuntu ..
[10:43] <eyequeue> leahcim:  if no ndiswrapper-fluent folks show up in here soon, i'd suggest wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: ah
[10:43] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: but that's only really useful if you know what you're looking for
[10:44] <andrew__> Wow, good link: http://www.autopackage.org/
[10:44] <TheDarkSide> HappyFool i want to see all packets in list ..
[10:44] <TheDarkSide> if there is any page .
[10:44] <cat_power> so, does anyone have Quake2 running on Ubuntu with sound?
[10:44] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: sorry, don't know of one offhand
[10:45] <HappyFool> TheDarkSide: ask google
[10:45] <Computer__Guru> yay i have root now
[10:45] <TheDarkSide> ok, thanks
[10:45] <valtaric> does anybody know how i can get an wma to mp3 converter?
[10:45] <paul__> cool guru
[10:45] <HappyFool> Computer__Guru: you mean you have the amulet of yendor now ?
[10:45] <eyequeue> Computer__Guru:  are em are .... heh
[10:46] <paul__> rebel against the dictators and enable root login hehe
[10:46] <Computer__Guru> ty paul, everyone who helped
[10:46] <paul__> yw
[10:46] <MrMaDSeN> wooot.... 65 mb for sun java 1.5  can this be true?
[10:46] <amittp_> does ubuntu have batik, fop and svgviewer in any repository?
[10:47] <Computer__Guru> is there a package for java so i dont have to get the one from sun?
[10:47] <eyequeue> MrMaDSeN:  lol, sounds about right though
[10:47] <paul__> sun java is a large file
[10:47] <Hieronymus> amittp_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:47] <MrMaDSeN> ok.. damn
[10:47] <andrew__> Another problem... media support! Is there a way to view streaming video from say... wmv or mov files on linux?
[10:47] <MrMaDSeN> :))
[10:47] <valtaric> can i get ubuntu to play WMA files?
[10:47] <MrMaDSeN> xmms?
[10:47] <valtaric> yup
[10:47] <eyequeue> MrMaDSeN:  grab the jre if you don't need the jdk, and want to save space
[10:47] <paul__> i think there may be a plugin for xmms, not sure
[10:47] <Computer__Guru> andrew__: apt-get build-dep mplayer-686 && apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[10:47] <Computer__Guru> (make sure you have universe sources)
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> heh - getting where 70% of the questions can be answered by  checking -->  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/ and the  Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:48] <eyequeue> only 70? ;)
[10:48] <MrMaDSeN> hehe
[10:48] <paul__> if gotten vlc player to work, it supports most codec
[10:48] <Computer__Guru> mplayer is prettier :D
[10:48] <MrMaDSeN> sorry.. kinda newbie here... thats what irc is for.. isn
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> eyequeue,  the other 30% seem to be people wanting to get their wireless or sound working,
[10:48] <MrMaDSeN> isn't it ? :D
[10:48] <valtaric> same..
[10:49] <valtaric> do ou know of an mp3 converter so i cna change all my WMA's into something ubuntu can play?
[10:49] <paul__> audacity?
[10:49] <HappyFool> Dr_Willis: yeah, sound seems to be a real problem. weird.
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> ive been playing wma's on ubuntu i THINK... only had like 1 or 2 of them to test..
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> HappyFool,  90% of that is people tht cant find the right slider to unmute their cards. :P
[10:50] <Computer__Guru> is there a package for the latest jre?
[10:50] <valtaric> how?
[10:50] <ManicMichael> Hello, together!
[10:50] <HappyFool> Dr_Willis: hrm
[10:50] <MrMaDSeN> how can I cancel an apt-get install?
[10:50] <paul__> valtaric check on audacity
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Guess the installer is going to have to have a 'sound test' wizard :P
[10:50] <HappyFool> Dr_Willis: unsupported cards are a nightmare, imo
[10:50] <eyequeue> MrMaDSeN:  ^C
[10:50] <MrMaDSeN> huh?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> HappyFool,  thats why i buy creative cards. :P  it pays to do reserch into hardware for your linux box.
[10:50] <eyequeue> MrMaDSeN:  hold down control, press c
[10:51] <Computer__Guru> does anybody have an answer?
[10:51] <bleck> hey, i can't seem to find it from google =( im trying to install dvdrip, but apt can't find transcode... and im guessing its because its amd64 (all i have is transcode_docs)
[10:51] <bleck> anyone know how to get it installed for 64-bit
[10:51] <nalioths_dog> Computer__Guru: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[10:52] <Computer__Guru> gotchya :)
[10:52] <nalioth_wrkn> bleck: yes, its b/c u are running amd64
[10:52] <Zym0tiC> how can i put the output of cat | grep in a bash script var?? this is what i have atm: SNDCRD = `cat /etc/asound.conf | grep hw:0,0` but it doesn't works
[10:52] <bleck> alright, well is there some apt-get repository that has a 64-bit version?  or do i have to use the chroot environment?
[10:52] <eyequeue> Zym0tiC:  is the colon problematic?
[10:52] <ManicMichael> @all: Is ubuntu working with a so-called "WIN-Modem" - I had already problems with the SuSe-distribution (germany)..?
[10:53] <jesus> hi
[10:53] <nalioth> bleck: you may be able to build from source
[10:53] <Ang3lFir3> quick question ne on got a clue why my nic can ping and tracert/dns but not connect to irc or do http?
[10:53] <nalioth> bleck: using apt-get
[10:53] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  what is tracert?
[10:53] <bleck> ahhh, your right... ill try that, thanks for suggestion... nothing but that though?
[10:53] <acid2_> Hey, does anyone have any experience with CVS serving?
[10:53] <Ang3lFir3> traceroute
[10:53] <HappyFool> acid2_: should be doable via ssh
[10:53] <Zym0tiC> eyequeue, wat do you mean with colon?
[10:54] <acid2_> I have a server up, and when I try and create a new module in eclipse I get "permission denied"
[10:54] <eyequeue> Zym0tiC:  hw : 0,0
[10:54] <acid2_> It looks like a cvsd error
[10:54] <Crutonman> Hey everyone
[10:55] <acid2_> I get.. "cvs: cannot mkdir /cvsroot/MyTeamProject: Permission denied"
[10:55] <Zym0tiC> doen't know for sure, i thought that if i use `  ` signs it will capture thw whole line
[10:55] <Zym0tiC> but i will try
[10:55] <nalioth> bleck: amd64 falls behind in having available binaries
[10:55] <eyequeue> Zym0tiC:  see if this works better: SNDCRD = $( grep hw.0.0 /etc/asound.conf )
[10:55] <valtaric> can any one tell me if Cedega is a good program from trying t orun window based games?
[10:55] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue you got any ideas?
[10:55] <Crutonman> I got a question about network interfaces and the likes on startup. No matter how many times I try and disabled eth0, it always tries to configure it on startup, and since I'm using wireless, it always hangs my system for 3 minutes
[10:56] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  well, what interface is it, for starters? (eth0?)
[10:56] <Crutonman> Is there a different way I am suppose to do it besides the network administration panel in gnome?
[10:56] <Crutonman> Yes.
[10:56] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue yeah eth0 smc2-1211TX
[10:56] <eyequeue> Crutonman:  make sure there is no "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:57] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  ifconfig eth0 ... does that have an UP line, and also, does it give you an ip address?
[10:57] <Crutonman> There is no auto, but for some reason it is listed under primary
[10:57] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue jas let me look
[10:57] <Crutonman> When I'm using ndiswrapper, does the card get loaded before the network configuration process is started
[10:57] <psychonate> I'm using XFCE4, and I know that to install User Interface themes, I can unzip the theme to ~/.themes, but I don't know how to install metacity themes (window border themes). Unzipping these archives to ~/.themes does not work.
[10:58] <Zym0tiC> eyequeue, this is what i get by both of them: /home/zym0tic/test: line 21: SNDCRD: command not found
[10:58] <ManicMichael> Is it possible to connect to the internet with a win-modem? I tried already with suse-linux distribution, didnt work - so I gave up working with linux ... got somebody
[10:58] <psychonate> Does anyone know where I need to put these?
[10:58] <eyequeue> Crutonman:  ah, i've got no knowledge of ndiswrapper myself, sorry
[10:58] <Crutonman> Well, I can keep trying this I guess
[10:58] <envel> test
[10:58] <auk> manicmicheal: soem modems will not work with linux. few, though
[10:58] <Crutonman> Would moving it from primary mess anything up?
[10:58] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue yes to the Up line "Running broadcast.... " and the ip is a local 192.168.1.* ip
[10:59] <auk> manicmicheal: check the modem provider for info
[10:59] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  next, can you ping something else on the lan, some other 192.168.1
[11:00] <Computer__Guru> worked like a charm :)
[11:00] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue yes i can and i can ping to the outside too (i.e. google.com)
[11:00] <Computer__Guru> ty nalioths_dog
[11:00] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  next, try ping 82.211.81.130
[11:00] <paul__> what did guru
[11:00] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  you can hit "google.com"??  ie, it resolves the dns?
[11:00] <Computer__Guru> his instructions for getting and installing the latest jre
[11:00] <paul__> ok
[11:01] <Crutonman> brb
[11:01] <Computer__Guru> now I suppose I should install limewire
[11:01] <funky> hi
[11:01] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  that's a huge step forward :)
[11:01] <paul__> no newsgroups?
[11:01] <funky> why isnt restricted modules for 2.6.12 in repositories ??
[11:01] <eyequeue> funky:  only .10 has restricted support so far
[11:01] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue yes i can ping it as well
[11:01] <funky> eyequeue: i see
[11:01] <Ang3lFir3> sorry for slowness kvm is evil
[11:02] <paul__> i dont care for p2p i use newsgroups
[11:02] <ManicMichael> @auk: well, its a "build-in-modem"...but could it work with ubuntu? Is there a list of "supported hardware" like at linux?
[11:02] <funky> eyequeue: do you know if there is any 3rd party repository which contains that package ?
[11:02] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  okay, if you can resolve outside dns, then you have most of the problems solved already, i would next susptect your gateway machine/nat/firewall
[11:03] <MrMaDSeN> is there a wiki on flash support?
[11:03] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue linksys befsr41
[11:03] <auk> manicmicheal: there is probably a list, but i've no idea where it might be
[11:03] <mjr> ManicMichael, see http://www.linmodems.org/
[11:03] <auk> mjr: oh, yeah
[11:03] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  can you browser into it and see if your ip is configures to get out?
[11:03] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue im leaning twoards ipv6 issues which i would be clueless to solve
[11:04] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue yeah jas
[11:04] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  ugh, i'm fairly useless on ipv6 too, sorry
[11:04] <ManicMichael> Great! Thank you...because Id really like to change...but dont want to buy a new modem (for an old machine..).;-)
[11:04] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  next, try 'telnet  82.211.81.130 80'
[11:04] <Ang3lFir3> yes the machine has an ip lease
[11:05] <harris|u> I just installed the 32 bit version of ubuntu, I added the repositories -> apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade -- Is there anything else I need to do to make sure all of my aps are up-to-date?
[11:05] <uscfan> how do you configure dhcp in ubuntu
[11:05] <uscfan> a friend of mine is on the phone
[11:05] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  that's http://www.ubuntu.com btw :)
[11:05] <python> Test Message <-ignore this folks
[11:05] <harris|u> uscfan, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installdhcpserver
[11:05] <uscfan> no no
[11:05] <uscfan> dhcp client config
[11:05] <eyequeue> uscfan:  client or server?
[11:05] <nalioths_dog> harris|u: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[11:05] <uscfan> is there a gui?
[11:06] <nalioths_dog> MrMaDSeN: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:06] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue lol i figured as much and no i can't telnet :(
[11:06] <nalioth> harris|u: your system will keep itself up-to-date
[11:06] <Walkman> harris|u, It checks peridically
[11:06] <harris|u> thanks
[11:06] <harris|u> and sorry ;o
[11:06] <eyequeue> uscfan:   /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and related files
[11:06] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue its almost like i can't get past the providers nameservers
[11:06] <nalioth> harris|u: in your top right corner, you'll see a 'attention' symbol when it needs your input
[11:07] <eyequeue> uscfan:  there may be a gui, i just know cli myself
[11:07] <uscfan> eyequeue, so he would edit the files and then i am asusming restart dhcp with what command
[11:07] <harris|u> nalioth, okay - but was I okay doing those commands? I didn't 'screw anything up' did I?
[11:07] <envel> is there a gui for wvdial or similar?
[11:07] <amittp_> Hi, we dont get "jar" directly after seting sun-java. How do i use "jar xvf somefile" in ubuntu?
[11:07] <Crutonman> Alright, that sped up configure network interfaces signifigantly although it is still not perfect, I have a question about wireless configuration in there though, is it possible to specify different hotspots?
[11:07] <eyequeue> uscfan:  if "eth0" is the interface, then "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" should do it
[11:08] <uscfan> thanks eyequeue
[11:08] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue odd side note the machine i am currently using does not have a dhcp lease in the clients table in the router lol
[11:08] <eyequeue> uscfan:  np
[11:08] <nalioth> harris|u: did you get any errors?
[11:08] <harris|u> nalioth, no
[11:08] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  lol
[11:08] <nalioth> harris|u: then you're good
[11:08] <aarcane> heLLo, I figgured out how to make networking work locally for one wireless LAN, or to make it work for any unencrypted wireless LAN, but I am currently unable to get networking working with..  well, what I feel I need to do (I may be wrong) is somehow save a list of Network Name and Keys for WEP, and for non-encrypted networks, just auto-detect them, so that I can automagically connect to any encrypted network I have a key for, o
[11:08] <aarcane> r I can just stick to my unencrypted network hopping when it suits me....  how do I go about setting this up ?
[11:08] <harris|u> nalioth, thanks again
[11:08] <Walkman> harris|u: It's good also to include backports too (some tasty programs there)
[11:08] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  are you perhaps being routed *around* the router?
[11:09] <Crutonman> aarcane
[11:09] <aarcane> Crutonman
[11:09] <Crutonman> Breezy should come with a program called "Network manager"
[11:09] <harris|u> Walkman, i followed ubuntuguide which did include some backports -- although I'm not quite sure what they are
[11:09] <Crutonman> That should take care of that, but I as well as you are stuck until that happens
[11:09] <aarcane> Crutonman, what's that ?
[11:09] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue nah just sometimes the lease from this winbox doesn't show up.....the ubuntu box does have a lease tho
[11:09] <Crutonman> Its a program that does exactly what you want
[11:09] <nalioth> harris|u: something to be left disabled til you need something from them
[11:09] <Crutonman> But it is not finished yet
[11:09] <Walkman> harris|u: mirrormax works fine for me
[11:10] <aarcane> Crutonman, aha...  well..  is it not working at all, or just not in ubuntu yet ?
[11:10] <Crutonman> i can't figure out how to do it myself, but i have heard ifplugd can handle it
[11:10] <Crutonman> I think its in beta atm
[11:10] <Crutonman> release version .4
[11:10] <amittp_> does anyone know how to access jar utility in ubuntu?
[11:10] <Crutonman> http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/
[11:11] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue why would ubuntu be utilizing ipv6 when most isp's aren't implementing ipv6 support yet
[11:11] <Crutonman> Take a peak there aarcane
[11:11] <Crutonman> Ang3lfir3 because when they do ubuntu will already have it working
[11:11] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  what Crutonman said
[11:11] <Ang3lFir3> Crutonman kewl tell me how to turn it off so i can browse
[11:11] <Crutonman> It shouldn't have to be "turned off"
[11:12] <Ang3lFir3> im currently blaming my issues on it
[11:12] <rober> hello
[11:12] <aarcane> damn, it's not in any of the repositories yet >,.,<
[11:12] <rober> i have a live CD ubuntu hoary
[11:12] <eyequeue> Ang3lFir3:  there is something in the wiki or ubuntuforums about that, not sure where, but a search on ipv6 in each should pull it up
[11:12] <MrMaDSeN> nalioths_dog: thnx
[11:12] <Crutonman> I checked there too aarcane ;P
[11:12] <Ang3lFir3> eyequeue kk
[11:13] <Crutonman> Want me to try and build it from cvs ?
[11:13] <rober> but the screensaver is active and now it ask me the password for the user: ubuntu
[11:13] <Walkman> harris|u: Everytime I found something new on backports ...
[11:13] <rober> anyone know this password?
[11:13] <Crutonman> which password
[11:13] <Crutonman> the password to the universe is 48
[11:13] <aarcane> okay, so my next question is...  autoconfigure for X didn't get my keyboard right..  It's a laptop, and has multimedia keys..  I need to make them work, how can I look up my keyboard model and make the bloody thing work ?
[11:13] <HappyFool> rober: enter your login password
[11:13] <eyequeue> rober:  try hitting enter? try "ubuntu"?
[11:13] <Ang3lFir3> Crutonman no its 42
[11:13] <eyequeue> HappyFool:  he's on the livecd
[11:13] <rober> yes
[11:14] <HappyFool> eyequeue: oh
[11:14] <Crutonman> There goes my score :(
[11:14] <rober> but say DENIED
[11:14] <Crutonman> aarcane, you have a 9300?
[11:14] <aarcane> Crutonman, 9300 ?
[11:14] <Crutonman> Inspiron
[11:14] <Crutonman> Regardless, are you running gnome or KDE?
[11:14] <ivoks> inspiron rocks
[11:14] <rober> HappyFool. which?
[11:14] <harris|u> 'nother question: synaptic says irssi is installed, but where can I find it along with other applications?
[11:14] <rober> eyequeue. yes i try
[11:15] <aarcane> Toshiba Satellite M35X, and I'm using Gnome with the xfce4 window manager inserted
[11:15] <HappyFool> rober: sorry, i didn't realize you were using the live cd
[11:15] <Crutonman> ok
[11:15] <ivoks> harris|u: irssi is command line app
[11:15] <eyequeue> harris|u:  you would just type "irssi" in a console (it should be in /usr/bin/irssi)
[11:15] <HiddenWolf> harris|u, you can't, it's a command line application, open up a terminal and type irssi
[11:15] <harris|u> thanks again :)
[11:15] <rober> Crutonman. 48? is the password?
[11:15] <Crutonman> go to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:16] <Crutonman> To what rober?
[11:16] <rober> ti user: ubuntu
[11:16] <Crutonman> The best I can do you for is you can assign the keys by simply clicking on the action you want and pressing the key through that program aarcane
[11:16] <rober> Crutonman: the password to the universe is 48
[11:16] <ivoks> i think ubuntu will rule the world :)
[11:16] <rober> ?
[11:16] <Servo888> Hey curious - how is your modem support? Like ltmodem stuff
[11:16] <eyequeue> rober:  it was a joke, 42 is the anser to life the universe and everything, 48 is the password to the universe, heh
[11:16] <Crutonman> It was a joke from hitchikers guide, what do you want the password to
[11:17] <dapimp53> How come on the update program it shows that the latest version of Firefox is 1.0.2 but there is newer versions out
[11:17] <aarcane> Crutonman, problem is that the keys currently do not generate anything in xev
[11:17] <eyequeue> Crutonman:  the default "ubuntu" user on the livecd, his screensaver has locked him out
[11:17] <Crutonman> Mine don't either
[11:17] <Crutonman> The program should let you do it aarcane
[11:17] <Crutonman> did you try "ubuntu"
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> how's everybody doing?
[11:17] <Crutonman> oh and btw (lol, just reboot)
[11:17] <Chillout> hi there can anyone recommend a good gnome GUI for WLAN?
[11:18] <aarcane> Crutonman, I need to change my kbd model in my xorg.conf to make it work
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> Chillout: I don't think there is one available for Hoary.  Breezy will have a good one by the time it is stable
[11:18] <Crutonman> Even to get the keyboard shortcuts working? Well, I am unsure of how to do that
[11:18] <vidz> aarcane, I would say NetworkManager, but I'm not sure if it runs on ubuntu
[11:18] <Crutonman> vidz, already mentioned that to him :P
[11:18] <Crutonman> Trying to figure out how to install it myself
[11:18] <eyequeue> vidz:  "not yet"
[11:19] <Crutonman> It's supposedly suppose to come with "Breezy" the next ubuntu release
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> o hi eyequeue, haven't seen you in a while
[11:19] <shortcircuit> my ipod will not mount over usb, i get this error in dmesg "can't set config #1, error -71"
[11:19] <aarcane> Crutonman, to get X to recognize the buttons as actual buttons..  that's why I need to get it working
[11:19] <concept10> Crutonman, I tried to install it yesterday
[11:19] <eyequeue> hey tiglionabbit
[11:19] <concept10> Chillout, you can use the network panel applet
[11:19] <Crutonman> aarcane, did you actually try just going to the keyboard shortcuts panel
[11:19] <Crutonman> Concept10, did it work?
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> say eyequeue, have you seen the little wiki I wrote yesterday?
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[11:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[11:19] <aarcane> Crutonman, I did
[11:20] <aarcane> Crutonman, I tried the xfwm4 equivalent
[11:20] <eyequeue> tiglionabbit:  no, where?
[11:20] <Crutonman> Ok, because I never had to mess with xorg at all
[11:20] <Crutonman> try the actual gnome application
[11:20] <aarcane> Crutonman, I went into xev
[11:20] <eyequeue> tiglionabbit:  ah, let me chck it
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> eyequeue: I just made ubotu spit it out
[11:20] <concept10> Crutonman, no, I tried to install with alien and also compiling from source, no success
[11:20] <Crutonman> it should be able to work without that configuration
[11:20] <aarcane> Crutonman, I tried everything, the keys are essentially dead until I can configure X to know what the fuck they are
[11:20] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i imagine ubotu spits every time he sees you coming! lol
[11:20] <jasoncohen> hey guys- if anyone asks about audio/video apss or multimedia codecs i wrote up a wiki page that has screenshots/descriptions of amarok, rhythmbox, streamtuner, beep media player, xine-ui, totem and will have vlc. in addition i added a section on adding universe, multiverse, and hoary-extras with some explanation. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I added a link to the forum post on streamtuner to yours, if you don't mind
[11:21] <shortcircuit> my ipod will not mount over usb, i get this error in dmesg "can't set config #1, error -71"
[11:21] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, thanks, that was a good idea
[11:21] <jasoncohen> here's the link for adding repositories - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: oo you added a screenshot of it!  cool
[11:22] <dapimp53> Can someone help me use ndiswrapper.. I installed the ndiswrapper-util. Is there anything else I need to do because I can't seem to get it to work. I am trying to install the driver for my wireless nic card
[11:22] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, yup- did that this morning
[11:22] <Crutonman> dapimp53: Is it broadcom based?
[11:22] <mouril> join #UBUNTU-PT
[11:23] <tatiana`> well three questions heh but maybe i can find the answer to one gnomes pages.
[11:23] <dapimp53> Crutonman: I honestly don't know. Its a Atheros AR5004G
[11:23] <concept10> jasoncohen, good job on the page
[11:23] <Crutonman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto Try following that page
[11:23] <jasoncohen> concept10, thanks
[11:23] <eyequeue> tiglionabbit:  sweet.  nice work.  thanks for doing it
[11:24] <jasoncohen> concept10, if you think i should add any programs or codecs, just ask
[11:24] <Crutonman> (Do the part about compling 1.1 with the 1.2 files
[11:24] <jasoncohen> that's true for everyone- you can email me or /msg me
[11:24] <jasoncohen> contact info here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JasonCohen?action=show
[11:24] <tatiana`> anyone know how to force gnome to "remember" where i keep windows tween sessions & whether they are visible on the desktops or not (all/some/1)
[11:24] <jasoncohen> eyequeue, you're quite welcome
[11:25] <concept10> jasoncohen, you should add links to the homepages and maybe xmms
[11:25] <eyequeue> tatiana`:  system >> logout >> save current setup, perhaps?
[11:25] <jasoncohen> concept10, ok, why xmms? isn't it just a gtk1 version of beep media player?
[11:25] <tatiana`> tried that, it doesn't seem to work
[11:25] <concept10> jasoncohen, no - BMP is a GTK2 version of XMMS - XMMS2 will be released shortly
[11:26] <tatiana`> like i keep xchat on al desktops but everytime i load it i have to tell it to put them there again.  if i logout it loses that info.
[11:26] <tatiana`> also save session doesn't affect firefox
[11:26] <D1> concept10, when will xmms be released?
[11:26] <jasoncohen> concept10, yeah, sorry- that's what i meant. XMMS is quite a bit older than BMP.
[11:26] <dapimp53> Crutonman: I installed it in the add/remove programs. Does that work ok or no?
[11:26] <eyequeue> tatiana`:  hmm, no idea, sorry
[11:26] <jasoncohen> concept10, will XMMS2 be in breezy?
[11:26] <tatiana`> k
[11:26] <Crutonman> It might, but that guide walks you through compling a newer version of Ndiswrapper, which is not included in the repositories
[11:27] <Crutonman> This helps with certain cards, and some cards only work with the newer versions (Like mine)
[11:27] <concept10> jasoncohen, dont know about when or if it will be in breezy, but I was just clarifying.
[11:27] <olafura> Every audio I play with alsa repeats for ever, does anyone know what could be the problem
[11:27] <concept10> jasoncohen, good job none the less
[11:28] <jasoncohen> thanks
[11:28] <dapimp53> How do I get the Synaptic Package Manager to update to the newest packages
[11:28] <tatiana`> ok next one, i set the permissions on this program, mousepad, so i'm the owner but it won't open for me, it segfaults... yet root can open & run it?
[11:28] <nalioth> dapimp53: left to itself, you always have the latest pkgs
[11:28] <tatiana`> it got installed when i installed the rox filer.
[11:29] <ompaul> dapimp53, it carries the latest packages for your version, are you using hoary?
[11:31] <jamesDOOD> I just installed Warty Warthog on a desktop computer and the graphical interface wont load. What can I do?
[11:32] <Kamzi> hi
[11:32] <gotonpo> Can someone tell me how to get icons on the desktop to display their text to the right/left instead of underneath? i can get it to happen in the file browser, but not on the desktop...
[11:32] <Crutonman> jamesDOOD: You could try checking the xorg conf by typing vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <Crutonman> Maybe something is arry there?
[11:32] <qt2> err..
[11:32] <jamesDOOD> Ok. I know very little about Linux
[11:32] <qt2> what's the password to the cups web interface? :o
[11:33] <jamesDOOD> I've used the text editor in Solaris 9 occasionally
[11:33] <jamesDOOD> I know vi is a text editor
[11:33] <jamesDOOD> what should I look for in the file?
[11:33] <Crutonman> No clue, what video card are you usinhg
[11:33] <jamesDOOD> nvidia 6600 with some letters after it
[11:33] <Kamzi> could sum1 help me install unbuntu, it mucks xp everytime i try 2 install it
[11:33] <jamesDOOD> geforce
[11:33] <tatiana`> jamesDOOD you can open it with gedit too .. just open a root term type gedit /blah/file &
[11:34] <Crutonman> He can't boot into the gui...
[11:34] <jamesDOOD> ok
[11:34] <Crutonman> Meaning he cant get at gedit
[11:34] <daniels> LinuxJones: pong
[11:34] <Kamzi> i thought it was grub but i didnt install grub and i had the same problem
[11:34] <Crutonman> as gnome doesnt open
[11:34] <tatiana`> ah ok nm
[11:34] <tatiana`> nano then ?
[11:34] <tatiana`> heh its simpler than vi lol
[11:34] <jamesDOOD> It says "it has failed to load, would you like to see the output on screen?"
[11:34] <tatiana`> just use Ctrl-(letter) to use its menus.
[11:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> omg someone put a pic of tux on a website gettin shot in the head >.<
[11:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you bastards >.<
[11:35] <jamesDOOD> And having looked through it, the 'output' doesn't even show any error messages
[11:35] <NeoGeo64> ive installed realplayer and then moved the folder it was installed to.  how do i get mozilla firefox to play realplayer files
[11:36] <jamesDOOD> Crutonman <-- what do you recommend I do after opening xorg.conf?
[11:36] <jasoncohen> concept10, links added for all the programs
[11:36] <Crutonman> Well, I was going to say if you a weird graphics card check if ia driver was chosen
[11:37] <concept10> jasoncohen, youre a good guy
[11:37] <Crutonman> but you have a geforce
[11:37] <Crutonman> as do I
[11:37] <Crutonman> and that installs the right driver by default
[11:37] <jasoncohen> thanks
[11:37] <jamesDOOD> And it worked no problems on the first run?
[11:37] <svu_> is it just me or mplayer packages for ppc do not contain /usr/bin/mplayer? only gmplayer - which is broken symlink to mplayer
[11:37] <keron> doesn
[11:37] <Crutonman> Yea
[11:37] <Crutonman> I put the cd in press entered a lot and half an hour later I started to install ndiswrapper
[11:38] <jamesDOOD> hmmm. you know, before I get the login prompt, the screen goes to black twice and then it gives the error
[11:38] <nalioth> svu_: thats funny, i had to compile my mplayer to GET gmplayer
[11:38] <Kyral> hello Ubuntu Peoples :D
[11:38] <Crutonman> I was suprised because debian shit a brick trying to find drivers for my geforce 6800
[11:38] <Crutonman> Yea
[11:38] <Crutonman> that happened on debian for me
[11:38] <Crutonman> When it couldn't find the drivers
[11:38] <Crutonman> whats the exact card you have
[11:38] <jasoncohen> concept10, do you think it would be a good idea to add a gtk version of mozilla-mplayer to backports? i rebuilt the debian mozilla-mplayer deb with gtk2 support and i think it would be a lot nicer for new users- play/pause/stop/fullscreen buttons and a way to download the stream
[11:38] <biovore> someone say ut2k4 :-)
[11:38] <Crutonman> Actually, it shouldnt matter, its nvidia and they use the same one
[11:39] <Kyral> biovore, I did :D
[11:39] <Crutonman> Grab the installer off nvidia.com
[11:39] <jamesDOOD> But could the problem be that I'm using an older version of Ubuntu
[11:39] <Kyral> I got it while I was away :D
[11:39] <Crutonman> What version are you using
[11:39] <biovore> <-- plays UT2k4 linux ladder play
[11:39] <jamesDOOD> (warty warthog)
[11:39] <Kyral> you know if I can make it install onto /home?
[11:39] <jamesDOOD> 4.10
[11:39] <Crutonman> It worked fine or warty for me
[11:39] <mdr> MDR
[11:39] <biovore> yup
[11:39] <Crutonman> *on
[11:39] <mdr> bande denculer
[11:39] <Crutonman> but you could try getting hoary
[11:39] <bluefoxicy> hmm openoffice is still busted as fuck
[11:39] <Crutonman> No reason not to
[11:39] <Kyral> good, thats my big partition
[11:39] <Crutonman> Plus it is only one cd
[11:39] <jamesDOOD> Ja. But that will take weeks
[11:39] <mdr> Crutonman 65-96-216-247 ip?
[11:39] <Crutonman> What mdr?
[11:40] <qt2> argh..
[11:40] <mdr> non rien
[11:40] <jamesDOOD> I live in Saudi Arabia
[11:40] <mdr> oublieconnard :)
[11:40] <Crutonman> what mdr?
[11:40] <mdr> rien
[11:40] <jamesDOOD> it sucks getting sent stuff
[11:40] <jamesDOOD> it never arrives
[11:40] <ptdr> jamesDOOD 85.194.83.78 <= ip
[11:40] <Crutonman> speak english
[11:40] <qt2> anyone have any idea how to get an hp psc scanner/printer combo to work in ubuntu...?
[11:40] <mdr> i'am french :)
[11:40] <mdr> ptdr
[11:40] <mdr> mdr
[11:40] <ptdr> xdr
[11:40] <biovore> qt2: yes, I got one :-)
[11:40] <biovore> hpoj
[11:40] <nalioth> mdr: en #ubuntu-fr, si'l vous plait
[11:40] <Crutonman> Why are you resolving our ips?
[11:41] <ptdr> poningru 471-101-70-231 <= ip
[11:41] <mdr> nalioth je veu ameliorer mon anglais
[11:41] <jamesDOOD> ??? whats this guy doing
[11:41] <biovore> so... who cares...
[11:41] <NeoGeo64> how do i get mozilla firefox to play realplayer files
[11:41] <zukalk> mdr, ben fais le srieusement
[11:41] <poningru> what happend?
[11:41] <Kyral> !info realplayer
[11:41] <mdr> zukalk erf
[11:41] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[11:41] <mdr> t francais toi aussi
[11:41] <ptdr> NeoGeo64 068-209-123-016 <= ip
[11:41] <tiglionabbit> !mozilla-mplayer
[11:41] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?
[11:41] <zukalk> mdr, non
[11:41] <Kyral> that I think :D
[11:41] <mdr> mdr ptdr
[11:41] <tiglionabbit> !info mozilla-mplayer
[11:41] <ptdr> mdr ?
[11:41] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 300 kB
[11:41] <mdr> zukalk tu pige le francais alord?
[11:41] <zukalk> mdr ouais
[11:41] <ptdr> xdr
[11:42] <mdr> erf
[11:42] <action09> arf
[11:42] <ptdr> trop coooool
[11:42] <mdr> nul :'(
[11:42] <ptdr> xdr
[11:42] <mdr> mdr
[11:42] <tiglionabbit> #ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <Kyral> Oh, anyone know how to unmount my /home for a forced fsck? It is 12% non-contigous
[11:42] <NeoGeo64> I have RealPlayer installed but firefox won't play anything embedded
[11:42] <Kamzi> exit
[11:42] <action09> Kyral umount
[11:42] <svu_> nalioth, really funny. But I really cannot find any package which would contains /usr/bin/mplayer :(((
[11:42] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: to play realplayer in firefox, you need mplayer, mozilla-mplayer, and w32cdoces
[11:42] <Kyral> tried it
[11:43] <Kyral> its busy :P
[11:43] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-386
[11:43] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB
[11:43] <dapimp53> Crutonman: I got it all installed but I don't see the device in my network configuration
[11:43] <dapimp53> do I need to reboot first?
[11:43] <NeoGeo64> i have all three of those
[11:43] <tiglionabbit> there are different mplayers for different builds.  They're in multiverse
[11:43] <mdr> !pv yann2
[11:43] <ubotu> mdr: I give up, what is it?
[11:43] <Crutonman> dapimp53: Did you try modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:44] <K`Mi> Crutonman ta mre et bonnne ???? mdr
[11:44] <mdr> mdrrr
[11:44] <Maneiten> Hi. How can I check which version of libc6 I've got installed (using the console)
[11:44] <Crutonman> i'm sorry fellows, I don't speak french
[11:44] <Crutonman> I can try and help if you ask in english
[11:44] <HappyFool> Maneiten: apt-cache show libc6
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> tiglionabbit, I have all three of those you mentioned.
[11:44] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[11:44] <HappyFool> bother
[11:44] <HappyFool> no ops around?
[11:44] <dapimp53> Crutonman: it returns nothing... is that good or bad?
[11:45] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: will your mplayer play realplayer stuff on its own?  (outside firefox)
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <K`Mi> VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK in your BEDDDDDDEEEE
[11:45] <Crutonman> no, its good
[11:45] <Crutonman> what does Iwconfig tell you
[11:45] <K`Mi> mdr
[11:45] <Hentai> stop spamming
[11:45] <K`Mi> Hentai spamming ?
[11:45] <HappyFool> Maneiten: slightly better might be 'apt-cache show libc6|grep Version'
[11:45] <K`Mi> xdr
[11:45] <mdr> K`Mi
[11:45] <mdr> MDRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[11:45] <K`Mi> mdr ta vu ?
[11:45] <mdr> revien
[11:45] <K`Mi> spamming
[11:45] <K`Mi> mdr
[11:45] <mdr> wai
[11:45] <mdr> MDRRRR
[11:45] <K`Mi> ou sa mdr ?
[11:45] <pgidz> k'mi 2012
[11:45] <mdr> ou t ban
[11:45] <Crutonman> Really, we need more ops here
[11:46] <K`Mi> kellke chan ?
[11:46] <dapimp53> Crutonman: It doesnt have the new extension in there?
[11:46] <K`Mi> mdr
[11:46] <Kyral> Sometimes I hate Prelink
[11:46] <dapimp53> do I need to reboot after adding it
[11:46] <cybersystem> Kyral: dont do that again
[11:46] <ompaul> to ignore that muppet /ignore *@*.ipt.aol.com
[11:46] <Kyral> eh?
[11:46] <msieradzki> can i use upgrade/update from hoary to breezy?
[11:46] <cybersystem> Kyral: didnt mean you sorry :)
[11:46] <cybersystem> K`Mi: dont do that again
[11:46] <HappyFool> ompaul: and many others from aol ? ;)
[11:46] <K`Mi> t amayre !!!!!
[11:46] <Enamorame> yo
[11:46] <Kyral> DAMN THE AUTOCOMPLETE!! lO
[11:46] <msieradzki> is it more stable than about 2 months ago?
[11:46] <nalioth> svu_: if you can see me, recompiling mplayer is a good idea anyway on the ppc (enable more stuff that way)
[11:46] <NeoGeo64> I can't even get realplayer to run and i just installed it from synaptic
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> #ubuntu-fr for french
[11:47] <Enamorame> vive la france
[11:47] <Enamorame> lol
[11:47] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: you should be able to play realplayer stuff in mplayer, even streaming things
[11:47] <msieradzki> hehe
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> well i can't.
[11:47] <msieradzki> HALO: is this topic -> don't use breezy yet is still up to date?
[11:47] <Crutonman> dapimp  you shouldnt have to, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[11:47] <ompaul> actually it was more like /ignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com all
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> I should submit the paper I'm writing as my college thesis for my CS AA
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: you sure you have w32codecs ?  um sorry, I don't know why you wouldn't be able to
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> It'll be like fedex
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> "You fail.  That's all impossible."
[11:48] <Enamorame> why i dont not voice here ?
[11:48] <dizzie> not a cs lamerchannel
[11:48] <svu_> nalioth, it seems I just have no choice but go that way:)
[11:48] <ompaul> HappyFool, well it is really nothing to be talking about :)
[11:48] <HappyFool> Enamorame: we can see you.. ?
[11:48] <nalioth> Enamorame: not necessary
[11:48] <dapimp53> net5211 driver present, hardware installed
[11:48] <NeoGeo64> I have w32 codecs because I'm watching video on ebaumsworld right now in firefox...
[11:48] <dizzie> no need for ops or voice
[11:48] <qt2> biovore, erm... are you using the hplip driver?
[11:48] <Crutonman> ok, try restarting then
[11:48] <Crutonman> You may get lucky
[11:48] <dapimp53> Ok brb
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: what format is the vidio?  wmp ?
[11:48] <Crutonman> If it hangs at configuring network interfaces
[11:48] <Enamorame> i not speak english lol
[11:49] <Crutonman> crap
[11:49] <HappyFool> msieradzki: breezy is stil unstable
[11:49] <Crutonman> Its going to hang there and he will get stucked
[11:49] <Crutonman> :X
[11:49] <HappyFool> msieradzki: use it at your own risk
[11:49] <nalioth> svu_: when you do, do a ./configure --help and see all the delicious options (you may end up installing a few more a/v things b4 you compile mplayer)
[11:49] <Enamorame> i dont know that say :s
[11:49] <K`Mi> Enamorame vire le +i
[11:49] <K`Mi> trou du q
[11:49] <msieradzki> yeah i know that but how much unstable it is, 2 months ago i couldn't use terminal
[11:49] <msieradzki> then i couldn't use cut-paste
[11:49] <NeoGeo64> its wmv
[11:49] <K`Mi> Enamorame mdrrrr vir le +i
[11:49] <biovore> foomatic-db-hpijs
[11:49] <K`Mi> :x
[11:49] <msieradzki> then x-server hanged
[11:49] <msieradzki> and i backed to breezy
[11:50] <HappyFool> msieradzki: i don't know. it's still experimental *shrug*
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, NeoGeo64 says he has mplayer, mozilla-mplayer, and w32codecs, but can't play realplayer stuff in mplayer.  Anyone know how that could be?
[11:50] <msieradzki> i have slow computer so faster gnome-terminal is really important for me (it's in breezy)
[11:50] <HappyFool> msieradzki: tried xterm?
[11:51] <msieradzki> it sux ;)
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: run apps -> sound&video -> MPlayer, and open a realplayer thing in that
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <msieradzki> i can't cut copy n paste from it to gnome apps
[11:51] <cool> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THE ENGLISHHHHH
[11:51] <msieradzki> hehe
[11:51] <HappyFool> msieradzki: you can, using middle-button
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> ugh.  Today is not a good day for #ubuntu
[11:51] <msieradzki> soooo cool
[11:51] <msieradzki> i don't have tabs in xterm
[11:51] <msieradzki> this really sux
[11:51] <HappyFool> msieradzki: that's what screen is for
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> msieradzki: control-shift-T ?
[11:51] <msieradzki> i got used to that
[11:52] <HappyFool> i'm not a big tabs-in-terminals fan myself
[11:52] <NeoGeo64> yeah but i want to be able to stream realplayer files in firefox and be able to click on realplayer file links in firefox and have them open in mplayer
[11:52] <dizzie> powa, let me guess your IQ ... its either 5 or 10 ... help me out here...
[11:52] <powa> mange sa sale pd !!!
[11:52] <powa> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:52] <powa> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:52] <powa> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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[11:52] <powa> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> NeoGeo64: okay, if you can play them in mplayer, you just need to configure firefox to know that, in the plugin settings
[11:52] <powa> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:52] <dizzie> 3 then :)
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> god damnit, stupid AOLers
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> what is their problem?
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> where's our admins...
[11:53] <msieradzki> tiglionabbit: i can use ctrl-shift-t in xterm for creating tabs???
[11:53] <dizzie> tiglionabbit, cant give you a straight answer :/
[11:53] <ompaul> tiglionabbit,  /ignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com all
[11:53] <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming
[11:53] <Maneiten> Hi.. I installed libc6 from a .deb file, from the debian resperitory. That was obviousley not the smartes
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> msieradzki: well you can in gnome-terminal
[11:53] <MrMaDSeN> damn... need my install disc... then I only have a broken one with lots of scratches... :(((
[11:53] <Maneiten> smartest move ever.. so how can I install the ubuntu version again?
[11:53] <msieradzki> i know that
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <K`Mi> [23:54:15]  <Hentai> Arrtez votre Spamming ( c pas du spam :///// )
[11:54] <HappyFool> Maneiten: oh dear
[11:54] <msieradzki> i'm talking about xterm
[11:54] <dapimp53> Crutonman: I rebooted and i dont see anything new in network control panel
[11:54] <msieradzki> gnome-term... is good but slow in hoary
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> msieradzki: you can dpkg --remove libc6
[11:54] <Maneiten> HappyFool: Indeed.. wasn't acctuallyt me. A friend of mine. I'm trying to fix it for him via SSH ;)
[11:54] <msieradzki> ???
[11:54] <dizzie> I like konsole, it has tabs :D
[11:54] <msieradzki> WHAT?
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> oops, that was for Maneiten
[11:54] <msieradzki> i use gnome not kde :D
[11:54] <heapifyman> hello
[11:54] <msieradzki> ok :)
[11:54] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: won't that fuck up everything depening on libc6 (as in alot)?
[11:55] <dizzie> kan apt-get konsole :)
[11:55] <Crutonman> dapimp
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> =[  I can't respond to everyone at the same time, I'm sorry
[11:55] <dizzie> aterm aint that bad either
[11:55] <Crutonman> I've seen your problem before, But I don't know if a solutions been posted
[11:55] <msieradzki> nah i like gnome-terminal and i won't use anything else :D
[11:55] <dapimp53> grr
[11:55] <levander> There is any way to load a samba share on demand? Rather than having to explicitly mount it every time I reboot my XP box?
[11:55] <dapimp53> I really want this to work
[11:55] <msieradzki> so i started getting breezy to my desktop
[11:55] <msieradzki> 30 mins ago
[11:55] <fatfreepork> how do i install a theme?
[11:55] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: What if I get the .deb from ubuntu and install it using dpkg -i? :)
[11:55] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:55] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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[11:55] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:55] <msieradzki> maybe x server won't crash this time
[11:55] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:55] <K`Mi> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:55] <biovore> spammer
[11:55] <HappyFool> Maneiten: you could *maybe* point apt at the ubuntu repos, and try a dist-upgrade, but i don't know if that'll actually work
[11:56] <dapimp53> I cant get my wireless connection to work nor my touch pad mouse
[11:56] <fatfreepork> how do i install a theme?
[11:56] <msieradzki> sudo apt-get install theme? :D
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: Well I know there's a way to get apt-get or synaptic to install the proper version of it, over whatever you put on, and if something breaks dependencies it uninstalls all the things that need it
[11:56] <dizzie> someone seen lilo as in ircop and not the bootloader?
[11:56] <synstar> why aint these spammer getting banned?
[11:56] <dizzie> this morons annoys me
[11:56] <HappyFool> synstar: no ops here...
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: use system -> preferences -> theme
[11:56] <synstar> dame
[11:56] <fatfreepork> okay thanks
[11:56] <HappyFool> unfortunately you'll have to /ignore him
[11:56] <ompaul> synstar, it is now
[11:56] <aarcane> how do I install the headers for wireless-tools ?
[11:56] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: Do you know how? :)
[11:57] <Kyral> SONUVA
[11:57] <Razor-X> UTC==GMT right+
[11:57] <dizzie> * [f~lilo]  is away (Coming and going. Will be on a bit later.)
[11:57] <dizzie> Bah :/
[11:57] <Razor-X> *?
[11:57] <Kyral> the damn Installer won't work
[11:57] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i think so, yes
[11:57] <dizzie> Kyral what installer?
[11:57] <MrMaDSeN> klaphatte til spammere
[11:57] <Razor-X> what!
[11:57] <Kyral> biovore, you said you installed UT2k4 right?
[11:57] <MrMaDSeN> sorry
[11:57] <Razor-X> I can't wake up at 6 AM!!!
[11:57] <dizzie> MrMaDSeN, Er du sikker? =)
[11:57] <MrMaDSeN> dizzie: hehe.. ja absolut da :)
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> daniels: !!! You have admin, WAKE UP
[11:58] <fatfreepork> do i have to extact the theme to install it?
[11:58] <ompaul> and when they are good little boys and girls or get them selves k-lined then  /unignore  *!*@*.ipt.aol.com
[11:58] <heapifyman> hm, has anyone any news about www.ubuntuusers.de ? i can't get onto that site. always says "connection refused..."
[11:58] <heapifyman> is the server down?
[11:58] <crimsun> tiglionabbit: what's the issue?
[11:58] <HappyFool> *fanfare* the cavalry arrives
[11:58] <dizzie> MrMaDSeN, set brn p 5 opfre sig mere voksent end denne idiot
[11:58] <HappyFool> crimsun: some idiot spamming
[11:59] <aarcane> there's no wireless-tools-dev or wireless-tools-src package, how do I get the headers for wireless-tools ?
[11:59] <MrMaDSeN> dizzie: enig
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: you should be able to install from the compressed archive.  And it will only work if the theme is designed for the WM you are using (gnome)
[11:59] <ompaul> crimsun, they are gone :)
[11:59] <MrMaDSeN> ban the shit out of them....
[11:59] <crimsun> ok
[11:59] <HappyFool> crimsun: K`Mi (pasbien@ACCE45F2.ipt.aol.com)   if that helps
[11:59] <Razor-X> crimsun: are you on the Ubuntu member council?
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: to get gnome themes, look at http://gnome-look.org
[11:59] <fatfreepork> i downloaded platik
[11:59] <biovore> I see we set mode J on here.. smart move..
[11:59] <fatfreepork> plastik
[11:59] <fumbalah> is there anyway to ignore a md5sum mismatch
[11:59] <Razor-X> fatfreepork: do you like CLI andor use AIM?
[11:59] <crimsun> Razor-X: I'm a member and a MOTU
[11:59] <fumbalah> I cant install gaim or firefox because apt is giving that error on a package
[11:59] <biovore> what error is that?
[11:59] <fatfreepork> Razor-X: aim
[11:59] <Razor-X> crimsun: the next meeting is at 17:00 UTC... 6 AM here -_-
[12:00] <fumbalah> md5 sum mismatch