| tvo | Riddell: ping | 12:18 |
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| Riddell | tvo: pong | 12:18 |
| tvo | Riddell: just updated wiki, quite a lot of kio-locate is finished by now | 12:18 |
| Riddell | tvo: groovy, going to make debian packages? | 12:19 |
| tvo | also I talked to ita today, and added kio-clucene to my list of "search-programs-still-to-look-at" | 12:19 |
| tvo | Riddell: hm I could try that too later this week | 12:19 |
| Riddell | good idea | 12:19 |
| Riddell | tvo: there's already a kio-locate package by uniq, so it would just be updating it with your version | 12:20 |
| tvo | ok, though I don't know a thing about packaging yet | 12:20 |
| Riddell | tvo: you should! add that to your todo list :) | 12:21 |
| tvo | Riddell: ok. btw, you think it's a good idea to release beta this week like I said in mail | 12:21 |
| tvo | ? | 12:21 |
| tvo | oh and btw, I sent a patch to kde-core-devel list | 12:22 |
| Riddell | tvo: sounds good to me | 12:22 |
| Riddell | tvo: what for? | 12:22 |
| tvo | it modifies kdelibs to also hide files which contain "/." | 12:23 |
| tvo | ie. /home/tobi/.trash/blah | 12:23 |
| tvo | Riddell: do you think it has any chance to get through? | 12:23 |
| Riddell | tvo: well if nobody complains then get me to commit it :) | 12:24 |
| tvo | Riddell: I already talked in kde-devel with hermier about it | 12:25 |
| tvo | he thought it would be a good idea to send it to the mailing list first | 12:26 |
| tvo | because although a small patch it's quite "major" change | 12:26 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:26 |
| Riddell | actually I've always hated the way Konqueror does hidden files. the io slave should have a flag it can mark for hidden files | 12:27 |
| Riddell | since some systems use different conventions | 12:27 |
| tvo | that would certainly be better yes | 12:27 |
| === tvo wonders if it works with fat hidden files... | ||
| === tvo checks that now | ||
| tvo | dmn that's quite stupid indeed | 12:29 |
| tvo | Riddell: any chance they're going to change that if a patch is written? | 12:30 |
| Riddell | tvo: don't see why not | 12:30 |
| tvo | Riddell: what do you think, shall I add this patch to my todo list? | 12:31 |
| tvo | oh and last thing: if you don't mind I'll at least do the inotify locate | 12:33 |
| tvo | i've been thinking about it and it makes locate and as such kio-locate much more powerful | 12:33 |
| tvo | actually, I needed it today to find my way through the kde sources :) | 12:34 |
| Riddell | tvo: both sound good | 12:35 |
| tvo | Riddell: seems I've got enough things to do then coming week and the week after I'll get back:) | 12:36 |
| tvo | Riddell: another last thing: if I want to add a different icon for this collapsed directories, is there anyplace with artists or a database with icons or whatever? | 12:37 |
| Riddell | kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg | 12:38 |
| Riddell | try folder_green maybe (I made that) | 12:38 |
| tvo | ok thanks, i'll update the wiki one last time and go to bed ... already 0:40 here | 12:39 |
| tvo | done. also cancelled the email to kde-core-devel, was still in queue | 12:50 |
| tvo | bye | 12:50 |
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| JRe | Riddell, allee: okay it's done, medianotifier (aka Kay) is now in kdebase | 01:17 |
| allee | JRe: hey great! | 01:17 |
| JRe | allee: :) | 01:18 |
| Riddell | JRe: so I hear :) | 01:18 |
| JRe | Riddell: no i am going to finish polishing my package | 01:19 |
| JRe | s | 01:19 |
| JRe | Riddell: BTW a Kat 0.6.0 is near to be out | 01:20 |
| Riddell | JRe: does this mean we don't need ivman? | 01:20 |
| JRe | Riddell: No ivman is a still necessary for automouting | 01:20 |
| Riddell | I thought medianotifier watched media:/ for new things appearing | 01:21 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah that's the behaviour | 01:21 |
| JRe | Riddell: but it does not mount the media | 01:21 |
| Riddell | what does it do? | 01:22 |
| JRe | it propose a set of services | 01:22 |
| JRe | to launch | 01:22 |
| JRe | like launch digiKam if it's a camera | 01:22 |
| JRe | so it ehances a lot the usability for newbies | 01:22 |
| JRe | also play CD for an audiocd | 01:23 |
| Riddell | but if it's a usb pen drive then presumably one of the options is open it in media:/ which will mount the drive | 01:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: oh in this case it's good | 01:24 |
| JRe | right | 01:24 |
| JRe | IVman is not obliged so ;) ;) ;) | 01:25 |
| Riddell | JRe: can it be backported to KDE 3.4? | 01:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: yes | 01:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: of course if you have any idea or suggestion | 01:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: i'll be glad to add or enhance a feature | 01:26 |
| Riddell | is there a way to detect other stuff that's hotplugged but not picked up by media:/ ? | 01:29 |
| JRe | nop | 01:29 |
| Riddell | like printers and scanners (dunno what you'd do with them though) | 01:29 |
| JRe | Riddell: ATM it only listen media:/ URL | 01:30 |
| Riddell | yep | 01:30 |
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| Riddell | hi sebas | 03:31 |
| sebas | Hi Riddell :) | 03:31 |
| Riddell | \sh: oy, nuff of that | 03:31 |
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| \sh | sorry...just trying to setup my nickserv :( | 03:32 |
| Riddell | sebas: could you put your xorg.conf and xorg.0.log on a webserver somewhere? | 03:32 |
| sebas | Sure. | 03:32 |
| sebas | http://vizzzion.org/~sebas/tmp/kubuntu/xorg.conf | 03:34 |
| sebas | http://vizzzion.org/~sebas/tmp/kubuntu/Xorg.0.log | 03:35 |
| Riddell | hmm, it all looks like it should work to me | 03:40 |
| sebas | At least I'm not looking too stupid now then ;-) | 03:40 |
| sebas | Hm, unpacking a bunch of my fonts from another machine makes X start. | 03:41 |
| sebas | Strange, but I don't care too much now. | 03:41 |
| Riddell | unpacking to where? | 03:41 |
| sebas | The font pathes mentioned in xorg.conf. | 03:42 |
| Riddell | X is evil | 03:44 |
| sebas | It is. | 03:45 |
| sebas | \sh is the packager of pykde, right? | 03:45 |
| \sh | hmm...something happened? then no ;) | 03:46 |
| sebas | Hehe :) | 03:46 |
| sebas | Not yet, but be prepared :) | 03:46 |
| \sh | i'm not responsible for exploding gnomes or those things..please bug upstream *eg* | 03:47 |
| sebas | *g* | 03:47 |
| sebas | I had a strange bugs using your package on hoary, running hand compiled pykde now. | 03:48 |
| \sh | aehm...which one? my port or the orig one? | 03:48 |
| sebas | But let's focus on getting the stuff running on breezy, if I get confident enough to upgrade my workstation. | 03:48 |
| \sh | the only working package is in breezy | 03:48 |
| sebas | In your package while the hand baken pykde worked. | 03:49 |
| sebas | Ah, good then :) | 03:49 |
| \sh | sebas: from my repos? | 03:49 |
| sebas | Jep. | 03:49 |
| \sh | yeah...looks like screwed..so forget it... | 03:49 |
| sebas | I can dig through my mails if you want to know the details. | 03:49 |
| sebas | Ok :) | 03:49 |
| \sh | sebas: upstream pykde is more broken then working ,-) | 03:50 |
| sebas | I know | 03:50 |
| sebas | I have some patches pending in Phil's snapshots also. | 03:50 |
| \sh | even the new snapshot is not fixing even the important stuff | 03:50 |
| \sh | that reminds me... | 03:51 |
| \sh | i have to setup a cron | 03:51 |
| sebas | Ok, kdecore imports cleanly so it seems to work. | 03:57 |
| sebas | I'll dig into the problems you've had with guidance now, Riddell. | 03:57 |
| Riddell | sebas: excellent, tell me if I can be of any help | 03:58 |
| sebas | Sure. Thx. | 03:58 |
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| sebas | Riddell: Did you get an error installing pykdeextensions "can't find python2.4/Config/Makefile or something like that? | 04:08 |
| sebas | That is _really_ strange :> | 04:08 |
| Riddell | sebas: don't think so no | 04:13 |
| sebas | Hm, then that's another strange error. | 04:13 |
| sebas | I might aswell work around the pykdeextension mess until Simon can dig into that and get guidance running in the meantime. | 04:14 |
| fromoze | Hi, I'm testing breezy amd64 and I find a big trouble: I can't write accents over the vowels. I ask on #kubuntu but I don't get any answer. I would repport a bug but I don't know if it's a circunstantial for the actual package of Qt. Becuase It's a qt problem. | 04:17 |
| Riddell | fromoze: what do you get instead? | 04:18 |
| fromoze | look: camion | 04:19 |
| fromoze | I'll try to paste from a non-qt app... | 04:19 |
| fromoze | It must be that: camin | 04:20 |
| fromoze | it's something about input on qt, that's what I localize. | 04:20 |
| fromoze | I try to find about XIM, I see it on qtconfig, but I couldn't arrive to a conclusion. | 04:21 |
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| Riddell | froud: where are the sources to kubuntu-docs deb? | 05:35 |
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| pef | hello | 05:37 |
| Riddell | hi pef | 05:37 |
| pef | Riddell: could you have a look at datakiosk package ? | 05:39 |
| Riddell | pef: where is it? | 05:39 |
| pef | Riddell: on revu waiting :) | 05:39 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 05:40 |
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| Riddell | datakiosk's packaging is slightly nuts, the datakiosk-0.7/src/datakiosk directory has its own Makefile foo which doesn't want to distclean | 05:56 |
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| pef | Riddell: I had to add this target ? | 06:04 |
| Riddell | dunno, it doesn't want to clean whatever you do | 06:04 |
| pef | :[ | 06:05 |
| Riddell | find . -name Makefile | xargs rm | 06:05 |
| froud | Riddell: hi, does kubuntu-doc have a footprint in nightly builds? | 06:05 |
| Riddell | find . -name .deps | xargs rm -rf | 06:06 |
| Riddell | froud: what do you mean? | 06:06 |
| froud | last week we discussed getting kubuntu-doc uploaded | 06:06 |
| Riddell | froud: which is why I'm looking for the source packages now :) | 06:07 |
| froud | Riddell: ah, ok | 06:07 |
| Riddell | pef: could you add those two to the clean target after the distclean. also in the control file add spaces after the >= sign e.g. "kdelibs4-dev (>=3.4.1)" | 06:10 |
| Riddell | dunno why but that's what every other package does | 06:10 |
| Riddell | froud: so where are the sources? | 06:11 |
| pef | Riddell: for the extra space, it may be interesting to add this test to lintian no ? | 06:13 |
| Riddell | pef: well I guess it doesn't actually make a difference but it's what everything else does so seems tidy to do the same | 06:14 |
| Riddell | e-mail the lintian dudes to suggest it | 06:14 |
| pef | ok :) | 06:15 |
| pef | Riddell: I think now I can remove the - in front of -$(make) since no errors will ocurr now ? | 06:18 |
| Riddell | pef: errors will still occur if you run debuild -S without having made the package first, so keep it in | 06:19 |
| KaiL | hmm, no amu | 06:20 |
| pef | Riddell: do you often have to make hacks like this on packages ? | 06:21 |
| KaiL | who knows, hot to get an old iMac to boot from the kubuntu install CD? ;) | 06:21 |
| Riddell | pef: fortunatly not often | 06:21 |
| froud | Riddell: what revision do you have 0.2 is the current version | 06:24 |
| Riddell | froud: I have the 0.2 .deb yes | 06:24 |
| froud | k | 06:24 |
| froud | just uploading tar | 06:24 |
| froud | Riddell: complete see http://www.lnix.net/~froud/deb/ | 06:25 |
| froud | Riddell: ok? | 06:26 |
| Riddell | froud: downloading now | 06:27 |
| froud | cool I will upload the src once a week but deb each day (if there are changes) | 06:28 |
| Riddell | froud: what dose the C stand for? there's lots of directories just called C | 06:40 |
| Riddell | ah, the language C I guess, meaning non-localised | 06:41 |
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| Riddell | froud: what's the difference between xsltproc and meinproc? | 06:42 |
| pef | Riddell: upload done ;) | 06:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: kio locate help is up to date, locater:help works and you can choose one of 7 colors folder icons in config dlg | 06:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: if you've got some time, could you proof-read the help? | 06:51 |
| tvo | hmm dunno if that's the right word in english, maybe "test-read" | 06:52 |
| tvo | see wiki for details | 06:53 |
| froud | Riddell: C/ is English US | 06:54 |
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| froud | Riddell: C/ is not actually used in KDE | 06:55 |
| froud | It's a carry over form GNOME | 06:55 |
| froud | Riddell: we can change it, but will need to decide on how to manage i18n | 06:56 |
| Riddell | froud: it's fine, I was just wondering | 06:56 |
| froud | xsltproc and meinproc | 06:56 |
| froud | no idea of diff | 06:56 |
| froud | we just use xsltproc | 06:56 |
| Riddell | ah, there are limits to your knowledge | 06:57 |
| froud | absolutely :-) | 06:57 |
| froud | actually I don't know why KDE Docs uses it | 06:57 |
| froud | it must be a hangover from when they used SGML | 06:57 |
| froud | Riddell: why | 06:58 |
| froud | Riddell: do you think we need to change any thing | 06:59 |
| froud | [18:34] * Riddell gets lots of "No localization exists for "c" or "". Using default "en"." | 06:59 |
| froud | A wanted error :-) | 06:59 |
| Riddell | don't think we need to change anything, looks good to me | 07:01 |
| Riddell | froud: how will the version number be updated? | 07:01 |
| Riddell | currently 0.2 | 07:01 |
| froud | 0.3 0.4 0.5 .....0.10 0.11 0.12 @ release 1.0 | 07:02 |
| Riddell | sounds good | 07:03 |
| froud | k | 07:03 |
| Riddell | updated weekly or daily? | 07:03 |
| froud | daily if changes | 07:05 |
| froud | tar once a week | 07:05 |
| froud | but deb each day | 07:05 |
| froud | not worth doing a version bump if no changes | 07:06 |
| froud | and not worth uploading in this case | 07:06 |
| froud | for src what I can do is each Saturday upload the src | 07:06 |
| froud | so for you the upload is just once a week | 07:07 |
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| Riddell | froud: well it all looks good, happy for me to upload? | 07:24 |
| froud | Riddell: I'm happy if you are happy :-) | 07:29 |
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| Riddell | uploaded, froud did you get a NEW e-mail? | 07:47 |
| froud | no why? | 07:48 |
| froud | I still have the same address | 07:49 |
| Riddell | normally I upload by chaning the e-mail address in the changelog to mine and then I get an e-mail saying "you uploaded a NEW package" | 07:50 |
| Riddell | but with this one I kept your e-mail address and did some debuild trickery to make it signed by me | 07:50 |
| Riddell | so I don't know where the NEW e-mail goes or if the whole thing has gone into /dev/null | 07:51 |
| froud | hmm I forgot to change the email address in the changelog | 07:51 |
| froud | sean@localhost.localdomain :-) | 07:52 |
| Riddell | no it's sean@inwords.co.za | 07:52 |
| froud | that should be correct | 07:53 |
| Riddell | hmm, elmo isn't online | 07:54 |
| Mez | mdz and elmo havent been online for a few days | 07:55 |
| Riddell | spooky | 07:56 |
| froud | spoke to mdz yesterday and elmo is moving house :-) | 07:57 |
| Mez | ah ok, maybe bot :P | 07:59 |
| dato | mdz and elmo are here in .fi (DebConf) now | 08:32 |
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| jb_ | ..still no amu | 09:05 |
| pef | Riddell: i've made a new datakiosk upload following your corrections | 09:21 |
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| kl | imac - cooked data... | 09:25 |
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| Riddell | uniq: what to do with kio-apt? | 11:12 |
| uniq | riddell: well, i don't have time to fix the graphics stuff right now. its there anything else you've noticed? | 11:16 |
| Riddell | uniq: nope. so either it's uploaded to REVU or we do a sneaky upload to ubuntu | 11:16 |
| uniq | that's up to you really. i can upload it to revu.. but both will conflict with the 'sneaky' bit :) | 11:17 |
| uniq | both as in upload to both. | 11:19 |
| uniq | however, it's possible to get 3 MOTUS to review it pretty fast i guess. | 11:21 |
| uniq | as a pro for the proper way. | 11:22 |
| Riddell | uniq: ok, try the REVU way then | 11:22 |
| uniq | will upload rtight away. | 11:23 |
| uniq | hmm.. it doesn't showup on the page.. | 11:30 |
| Riddell | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=114 | 11:31 |
| pef_aw | bye ! | 11:33 |
| uniq | i'll have to get my ass going and meet mithrandir soon, get my key signed and become a motu. | 11:47 |
| uniq | correction, try to become a motu. | 11:50 |
| uniq | riddell: /var/lib/apt/lists/download.kde.org_stable_3.4.1_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages | 11:52 |
| uniq | is that something you could fix? | 11:52 |
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