| eruin | wasabi, actually, the plugin wouldnt be that bad if you could actually do something with it | 12:03 |
|---|---|---|
| eruin | like going fullscreen, saving the stream, etc | 12:04 |
| === mxpxpod [~bryan@wuw-9t27t034.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| wasabi | it more often than not locks up the browser | 12:04 |
| wasabi | I just want totem to open. | 12:04 |
| eruin | that hasn't happened here yet | 12:04 |
| wasabi | No reason to do silly plugin stuff for a direct link | 12:05 |
| eruin | that's true | 12:05 |
| eruin | it's a lifesaver for my favourite webtv site though | 12:05 |
| eruin | I can finally view it properly in linux ;) | 12:05 |
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jasoncohen [~jason@pcp0011382713pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | heh. on a freshly-cleaned xorg tree: | 12:50 |
| daniels | daniels@brainfreeze:~/canonical/xorg/xorg-6.8.2/debian% find ./ -type f | wc -l | 12:50 |
| daniels | 817 | 12:50 |
| === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| eruin | thank you thank you and thank you for adding rbox with cdburning in breezy :) | 12:56 |
| === skaught [~skaught@S0106000f3d3c620f.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ggi [~ggi@ggi.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pixelmonkey [~pixelmonk@ool-4572767c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pixelmonkey [~pixelmonk@ool-4572767c.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Duck_Happy [duck@orfeo.duckcorp.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| syndicate | So is there an initiative or something for supporting Kerberos in all base packages? As it stands now, most stuff is compiled without kerberos support (like ssh and mozilla) | 01:29 |
| daniels | i don't know of any organised movement, no | 01:30 |
| syndicate | It would be nice to have one | 01:30 |
| === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-206.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === skaught [~skaught@S0106000f3d3c620f.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| wasabi | syndicate, feel free to start one. ;) | 01:45 |
| wasabi | I'm all for that. | 01:45 |
| dilinger | syndicate: would pam_krb5 suffice? | 01:49 |
| wasabi | pam_krb5 misses the vast majority of hte point of kerberos. | 01:51 |
| wasabi | It's not about auth... it's about passwordless auth. | 01:51 |
| wasabi | pam_krb5 is just the door | 01:52 |
| dilinger | ah, so you're talking about gssapi | 01:52 |
| wasabi | Among other things. | 01:52 |
| dilinger | i'd like to see pam support credential passing | 01:52 |
| wasabi | Yeah. | 01:52 |
| dilinger | for krb5 and ssh keys | 01:52 |
| wasabi | But pam is sort of not really about that. | 01:53 |
| dilinger | i know, but it could be | 01:53 |
| wasabi | That's SASL. | 01:53 |
| wasabi | me->away | 01:53 |
| lamont | daniels: sup? | 01:55 |
| === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | lamont: got the library packages down pat, now just need to battle f**king xcursorgen | 01:58 |
| lamont | woot | 02:05 |
| daniels | and I think the xserver-xorg split is currently OK, too | 02:08 |
| daniels | lamont: http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/xorg/changelog-35 | 02:08 |
| daniels | need to go to the supermarket, though. 1009, haven't eaten, and I'm ravenous. | 02:09 |
| lamont | opuch | 02:09 |
| lamont | ouch, even | 02:09 |
| lamont | quite the changelog | 02:10 |
| daniels | yeah | 02:11 |
| daniels | it's pretty much the only version that's managed to balloon like that lately | 02:11 |
| daniels | i'd forgotten just how much that sucked | 02:11 |
| daniels | anyway, -> purchasing food | 02:11 |
| === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| syndicate | well, how do you start an intiative, create a spec or something on the wiki | 02:20 |
| syndicate | I'd be happy to do so | 02:20 |
| === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === KaiL [KaiL@p548F47D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Megacid [~giga@host86-135-14-174.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Megacid | hello folks | 02:52 |
| Megacid | cjwatson is around sometimes ? | 02:52 |
| lamont | Megacid: frequently | 02:53 |
| Megacid | thks | 02:53 |
| Megacid | he is my guru | 02:54 |
| schweeb | Megacid: he goes by the nick Kamion on irc | 03:00 |
| === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Megacid | thks for the info :) | 03:03 |
| === slomo [~slomo@p5487F5DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Rotund [~joe@adsl-69-229-144-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sjoerd [sjoerd@fire.ipv6.luon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | lamont: fwiw, -35 will also fix the tetex build loop | 03:45 |
| lamont | awesome | 03:47 |
| lamont | btw, how's lunch? | 03:47 |
| daniels | breakfast is good :) lunch is in the oven | 03:51 |
| bob2 | more muphins? | 03:51 |
| === lamont wanders off for much of the evening | ||
| daniels | bob2: muffins are PENDINGUPLOAD | 03:52 |
| daniels | bob2: nachos are in the oven | 03:52 |
| bob2 | wtf | 03:52 |
| bob2 | nachos are microwave food, dude | 03:52 |
| daniels | proper nachos are oven food | 03:53 |
| tseng | yeah | 03:53 |
| tseng | but oven is way too much work | 03:54 |
| daniels | no way dude | 03:56 |
| tseng | i drive down the road and let real mexicans cook it for me | 03:56 |
| tseng | that way it doesnt suffer from my extreme whiteness | 03:57 |
| tseng | or make me touch an oven | 03:57 |
| schweeb | tseng: you are truly worthless as a mexican | 03:59 |
| tseng | schweeb: so true. | 03:59 |
| === jp [~jp@216-155-93-26.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| schweeb | make me some nachos anyways. | 03:59 |
| === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jp | hi all | 03:59 |
| jp | :) | 03:59 |
| lamont | from the missing-depends department: /usr/include/php4/main/php_network.h:78:25: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory | 04:00 |
| tseng | schweeb: if you inventory all the food in my apartment, we have a multitude of drinks, and some assorted popsicles | 04:00 |
| tseng | schweeb: cooking is for suckers | 04:00 |
| schweeb | hah | 04:01 |
| schweeb | you are a sucker anyways | 04:01 |
| schweeb | grilling is good. | 04:01 |
| schweeb | no cleanup, and delicious food | 04:02 |
| jp | tseng wtf with you, i'm professional chef :) | 04:02 |
| tseng | grilling on the third floor doesnt work | 04:02 |
| === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| bob2 | you could do it in a griller | 04:04 |
| bob2 | instead of on the 3rd floor | 04:05 |
| schweeb | you're a sucker for moving in on the third floor, tseng | 04:05 |
| === schweeb shakes his head | ||
| tseng | ill get you later schweeb | 04:07 |
| schweeb | :) | 04:08 |
| === justdave [~justdave@66-227-241-236.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kubuntu-live [~kubuntu-l@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | tseng: cooking is rad | 04:16 |
| === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-206.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis_ [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tepsipakki [~tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jp | cool | 04:27 |
| === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| schweeb | whoever mentioned nachos gets a cookie | 04:29 |
| === schweeb just made a plate of heart attack super death nachos from hell | ||
| === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thierry | hi, I'd like to help with ubuntu bug 8786 but I can't find the hal module in rosetta... | 04:43 |
| thierry | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/rosetta | 04:43 |
| === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-206.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis_ [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tepsipakki [~tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-206.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis_ [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tepsipakki [~tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jp | servers are cool | 04:48 |
| jp | hahahahah | 04:48 |
| thierry | yeah | 04:48 |
| === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-84-1.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mpt | thierry: What language is that? | 05:02 |
| mpt | thierry: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+sources/hal/+pots/review-hoary-hal-1/fr/+translate?offset=20 | 05:05 |
| mpt | (I found hal by finding "hal" on https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+translations) | 05:06 |
| === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | SHIT | 05:35 |
| daniels | ah, phew | 05:35 |
| daniels | my obscure scp-to-chinstrap-then-ftp upload method saved me | 05:35 |
| === johanbr [~j@d154-20-178-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | daniels: | 06:22 |
| fabbione | pool/main/libx/libx11/libx11_6.2.1+cvs.20050711-1.dsc | 06:22 |
| fabbione | pool/main/libx/libx11/libx11_6.2.1+cvs.20050711-1.tar.gz | 06:22 |
| fabbione | native package? | 06:22 |
| daniels | oh, for fuck's sake | 06:24 |
| daniels | that's the second time I've done that today | 06:24 |
| daniels | (*ahem*) | 06:24 |
| === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sfvt [~sfvt@pool-64-222-117-63.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | isn't the new dpkg supposed to reject that? | 06:29 |
| === jewel [~jewel@cpe-66-87-25-252.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | it would have fail on your box if there was something wrong? | 06:30 |
| daniels | well, it's not supposed to accept native version numbers with non-native packaging and vice-versa | 06:31 |
| fabbione | it unpacked here fine | 06:31 |
| fabbione | blame scott :) | 06:31 |
| === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.246.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Xoff [~mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jewel_ [~jewel@cpe-66-87-25-252.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === one_love_1980 [~one@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ealden [~ealden@219.90.94.70] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kamstrup [~kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === JaneW [~JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === daniels stares at his tax. | ||
| daniels | the first set of figures has me paying $8k, on top of what I've already paid. second set has me getting $2k back. third set has me paying $200k. | 07:49 |
| daniels | er, $200, not $200k. | 07:49 |
| fabbione | daniels: these are peanuts :) | 07:50 |
| robitaille | personally I would take the 2nd option :) | 07:50 |
| infinity | daniels : Time for some creative math. | 07:51 |
| fabbione | hi infinity | 07:51 |
| infinity | daniels : I get money back, but I can't file until Zofia's slack-ass ex-employer send us her pay summary, so I can claim her as a dependant. | 07:52 |
| infinity | fabbione : Morning. Or afternoon. Or whatever it is. | 07:52 |
| === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1075: dl_main: Assertion `_rtld_local._dl_rtld_map.l_libname' failed! | 07:53 |
| fabbione | does anybody have any idea of what that error message means? | 07:53 |
| fabbione | (amd64 breezy chroot) | 07:54 |
| infinity | Nope, but there's an open bug on glibc about that very message. | 07:56 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:57 |
| fabbione | this must be new... but i don't think it's glibc realted | 07:58 |
| fabbione | there hasn't been a glibc update for a while | 07:58 |
| fabbione | i think it's more gcc-3.4 related.. in any case it makes the kernel FTBFS | 07:58 |
| === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| infinity | Has there been a new binutils recently? | 07:58 |
| infinity | I tend to blame all my deeply obscure toolchain bugs on binutils, until provne otherwise. | 07:59 |
| fabbione | no idea... | 07:59 |
| fabbione | can somebody kindly write an uppersend so that i can copy&paste ??? | 08:00 |
| fabbione | my X keyboard is somehow fucked... | 08:00 |
| fabbione | daniels: we will have to look at it sometime soon | 08:00 |
| === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0003.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| infinity | I'd have to know what an "uppersend" was before I could type one for you... | 08:02 |
| fabbione | the one you use in grep to match the first word | 08:03 |
| fabbione | the opposite of $ | 08:03 |
| infinity | ^ | 08:03 |
| fabbione | (in a regexp) | 08:03 |
| fabbione | thanks | 08:03 |
| === Simira [~rpGirl@a130-233-4-152.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| HrdwrBoB | a caret? | 08:03 |
| daniels | fabbione: what's wrong with it? | 08:06 |
| fabbione | daniels: i have lost a bunch of chard | 08:06 |
| fabbione | chars | 08:07 |
| fabbione | backspace doesn't work in less | 08:07 |
| fabbione | i can't make the above char | 08:07 |
| fabbione | tilde | 08:07 |
| fabbione | if you can find a pic of a dk keyboard i can show you | 08:07 |
| fabbione | otherwise gimme the time to take a pic of mine | 08:08 |
| daniels | fabbione: are they accessed via alt-gr, or via shift? | 08:08 |
| fabbione | that too | 08:08 |
| fabbione | but not only | 08:08 |
| daniels | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KeyboardLayout-Danish.png | 08:08 |
| fabbione | daniels: ok.. let's start from the backspace | 08:09 |
| fabbione | it works in xterm, but not less | 08:09 |
| fabbione | and in another case i can't remember | 08:09 |
| fabbione | the key immediatly on the left of backspace | 08:10 |
| fabbione | the 2 apostroph don't work | 08:10 |
| fabbione | pipe does | 08:10 |
| daniels | ' and ` ? | 08:10 |
| fabbione | ' <- this is on another key | 08:10 |
| fabbione | ` <- this one and the opposite | 08:10 |
| daniels | oh, so you actually have separate ` and keys? | 08:10 |
| daniels | right | 08:10 |
| fabbione | right | 08:11 |
| fabbione | down to the tilde key | 08:11 |
| fabbione | none of the 3 symbols on it are available | 08:11 |
| daniels | if you start up xev, what output does it give you for typing with those? | 08:11 |
| Mithrandir | ^~ you mean? | 08:11 |
| daniels | yeah | 08:11 |
| fabbione | yup | 08:11 |
| daniels | why is on a separate key? is it a dead key? | 08:12 |
| fabbione | the rest of the keyboard seems ok | 08:12 |
| fabbione | daniels: i really have no clue if it's a dead or alive key | 08:12 |
| daniels | oh right, it is dead | 08:12 |
| === fabbione doesn't know anything about xkb | ||
| daniels | fabbione: according to wikipedia, it's dead | 08:12 |
| fabbione | ok | 08:12 |
| daniels | so, you do u to get , f.e. | 08:13 |
| === fabbione prepares a funeral | ||
| daniels | deadkeys are crack | 08:13 |
| daniels | compose keys are the way of the future | 08:13 |
| fabbione | well whatever :) | 08:13 |
| fabbione | can you try to fix it please? | 08:13 |
| fabbione | i don't mind at all to do testing | 08:13 |
| daniels | i'll do what i can, but lacking more information or a danish keyboard ... | 08:14 |
| daniels | would need to know what happens when you try typing with those into xev, for a start | 08:14 |
| fabbione | daniels: sure.. hold on | 08:14 |
| fabbione | daniels: any preferred way? | 08:14 |
| daniels | /msg? | 08:15 |
| fabbione | to grab the output of xev i mean | 08:15 |
| fabbione | sure | 08:15 |
| === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Amaranth [~amaranth@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles_ [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Traxer|off [traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel | ||
| === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-211.17.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chesty [~chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === maswan [maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === xhaker [xhaker@213.201.220.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chuck_ [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis_ [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Xoff [~mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jewel_ [~jewel@cpe-66-87-25-252.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0003.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dieman_ [~dieman@3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === video-to1esbe [tsb@developer.skolelinux.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed_ [~implosion@69.17.126.228] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Keybuk_ [~scott@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Clint_ [~Clint@thumb.scru.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sjoerd [sjoerd@fire.ipv6.luon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang_ [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === torkel [~torkel@shaka.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Rotund [~joe@adsl-69-229-144-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sto [~sto@224.Red-80-59-203.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-20-215.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bytee_ [~byte@pentafluge.infradead.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Nafallo [nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === schweeb [~chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lool [~lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ydo [tbe@debian.as] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.200.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === slomo [~slomo@p5487F5DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bob2 [~rob@crumbs.ertius.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mae_ [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Traxer|off [traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === JaneW [~JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === justdave [~justdave@justdave.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === _malex [~malex@mrb319.cvmbs.colostate.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdke [~matt@81-178-112-178.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mithrandir [~tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === julien [julien@feng.planet-work.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sbibayoff [steve@216.52.246.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === uniq [charlie@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sladen [paul@80.1.73.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chol_ [chol@y.olaglig.nu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Kaloz [~kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Kamion [~cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bradb-afk [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === camilotelles_ [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lu|away [~louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === anibal [ams@ns1.mssinc.biz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dand [~dand@83.103.205.136] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sto [~sto@sto.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh_away [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chris38 [~bayle@192.44.60.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === infinity [~adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port163-96.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === KaiL [KaiL@p548F47D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dato [~adeodato@84-120-66-144.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Duck_Happy [duck@orfeo.duckcorp.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kamstrup [~kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === susus [~sz@p5089EFA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ogra [~ogra@p5089EFA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === boglot [chaas@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cartel_ [~cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === buxy [~raphael@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tarjei [~tarjeih@mail2.bergfald.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spo0nman [~pankaj@spo0nman.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jamesh [~james@203-59-251-126.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tepsipakki [~tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Am|NickTaken [amaranth@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sfvt [~sfvt@pool-64-222-117-63.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mae__ [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === RemoteViewer [~555@stan.physik.fu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net | ||
| === shwiiing [~shwiiing@dsl-209-126.o-d.tiscali.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Keybuk [~scott@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Clint [~Clint@thumb.scru.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === video-toresbe [tsb@developer.skolelinux.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dieman [~dieman@12.47.34.242] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jvw [jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === schweeb [~chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel | ||
| === Lathiat [~lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === xhaker [xhaker@213.201.220.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-165.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Sp33dy2 [~vr@cpe-70-93-199-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === xxenon [xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Speedy2 | Are either HAL or hotplug involved in the creation of IDE devices in /dev ? | 08:58 |
| === magnon [~magnon@magnon.photogeeks] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Nafallo [nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === auxesis [~lindsay@li12-168.members.linode.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net | ||
| === maswan [maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === justdave [~justdave@justdave.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-211.17.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mako [~mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tarjei [~tarjeih@mail2.bergfald.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Rotund [~joe@adsl-69-229-144-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-20-215.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mae_ [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === JaneW [~JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mithrandir [~tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sbibayoff [steve@216.52.246.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Xoff [~mas01cr@gibbons.doc.gold.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chuck_ [~chuck@ottawa-hs-64-26-161-129.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stuNNed_ [~implosion@69.17.126.228] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dieman_ [~dieman@3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === torkel [torkel@shaka.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sto [~sto@sto.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mpt [~mpt@203.167.186.120] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bytee_ [~byte@pentafluge.infradead.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chesty [~chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Treenaks | wb all :) | 09:08 |
| === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ydo [tbe@debian.as] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lool [~lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mithrand1r [~tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Yvonne [~fsck@cn-sdm-cr02-2552.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-20-215.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === _malex [~malex@mrb319.cvmbs.colostate.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === elmo [~james@a130-233-4-133.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | hey elmo | 09:28 |
| === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK | ||
| === ealden [~ealden@219.90.94.70] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | elmo: can you please dist-upgrade the following chroots? (concordia: breezy - breezy-i386 davis: breezy halley: breezy) | 09:40 |
| fabbione | elmo: i need to get in the latest kernel-wedge to fix some udeb creation stuff | 09:40 |
| === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| elmo | fabbione: I can't do davis while you're building ... | 09:47 |
| fabbione | elmo: ops.. will stop immediatly | 09:49 |
| fabbione | elmo: done :) | 09:49 |
| elmo | concordia/halley done - davis running | 09:54 |
| fabbione | elmo: thanks :) | 09:54 |
| === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| elmo | fabbione: davis done too | 09:58 |
| fabbione | elmo: rocking thanks | 09:58 |
| === fabbione needs to re-read all the maintainer scripts calls... | ||
| fabbione | does anybody have handy the if [ $1.. line to call some stuff only on first install and reconfigure, but not upgrades? | 09:59 |
| === jeroen_ [~jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| sivang | hey fabbione | 10:01 |
| fabbione | hi sivang | 10:02 |
| === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| elmo | ogra: ? | 10:08 |
| Treenaks | elmo: did you see my mail re: cannot upload ? | 10:09 |
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| elmo | Treenaks: not yet, I'm having trouble keeping up with my mail load without a server at home | 10:10 |
| Treenaks | elmo: np | 10:11 |
| === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-15-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jsgotangco [~user@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === skaught [~skaught@S0106000f3d3c620f.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Speedy2 [~root@cpe-70-93-199-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | fabbione: $1="configure" $2="", IIRC | 10:21 |
| fabbione | daniels: yeah i figured to test it runtime.. it's faster :) | 10:21 |
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Clint | elmo: you're missing madduck trolling | 10:24 |
| ogra | elmo, whats wron ? | 10:26 |
| ogra | g | 10:26 |
| Mithrandir | ogra: elmo's afk atm. | 10:29 |
| ogra | ah, ok | 10:29 |
| === ogra now sees elmo's mail | ||
| === dr88dr88 [~gerrit@h174040.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === carstenh [~carstenh@mkfw.fh-trier.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === GmanAFK is now known as Gman_ | ||
| === one_love_1980 [~one@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === doko [~doko@a130-233-5-210.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Xoff is now known as Xof | ||
| === vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-26-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | bah... brown paper bag upload | 11:02 |
| fabbione | hey seb128 | 11:04 |
| lifeless | seb128_: jdub suggested you might like to package 'barter' - a baz python nautilus plugin | 11:04 |
| seb128_ | "plugin"? | 11:04 |
| seb128_ | hi fabbione | 11:04 |
| fabbione | seb128_: a very low priority task for you and only if you have time.. could you fix gnome-alsamixer in breezy? | 11:05 |
| fabbione | (it's in universe and gcc-4.0 FTBFS) | 11:05 |
| fabbione | (i think at least...) | 11:05 |
| seb128_ | fabbione: builds fine on i386, I'll have a look | 11:06 |
| lifeless | seb128_: yes, it gives context menus in baz checkouts | 11:06 |
| lifeless | seb128_: think 'tortoise svn for baz on nautilus' | 11:06 |
| fabbione | seb128_: hm ok... | 11:06 |
| === skaught [~skaught@S0106000f3d3c620f.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | seb128_: it fails here tho... | 11:06 |
| seb128_ | lifeless: any webpage, pointer, ... ? | 11:07 |
| doko | good morning | 11:08 |
| fabbione | hi doko | 11:09 |
| ogra | seb128_, google for apotheke | 11:09 |
| lifeless | http://www.dur.ac.uk/j.r.c.geldart/projects/barter/ | 11:09 |
| ogra | we already had this for cvs | 11:09 |
| seb128_ | ogra: he's not speaking about apotheke | 11:10 |
| seb128_ | lifeless: thanks | 11:10 |
| ogra | seb128_, but something similar.... | 11:10 |
| lifeless | ogra: check that web site out, screen shots n all ;) | 11:10 |
| ogra | seb128_, apotheke was a cvs bonobo plugin afaik | 11:10 |
| seb128_ | ogra: and I asked for a page/name, not easy to package something without these informations | 11:10 |
| seb128_ | ogra: I don't care about apotheke :p | 11:10 |
| highvoltage | anyone have elmo's e-mail address? | 11:11 |
| ogra | seb128_, me neither :) i never did :) | 11:11 |
| seb128_ | so why do you keep speaking of it? :p | 11:11 |
| ogra | seb128_, you sounded like you wanted to know about it *g* | 11:12 |
| seb128_ | ogra: read the discussion again maybe? | 11:12 |
| ogra | seb128_, probably i had not enough coffee yet :) | 11:13 |
| ogra | hmm, but barter looks cool | 11:14 |
| === jinty [~jinty@a130-233-5-251.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === one_love_1980 [~one@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.0.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === elmo [~james@a130-233-4-133.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dholbach [foobar@td9091c35.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 11:26 |
| dholbach | could it be that http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/s/streamtuner/0.99.99-5ubuntu1/streamtuner_0.99.99-5ubuntu1_20050711-0950-amd64-failed.gz comes from a hiccuping buildd? | 11:26 |
| === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-213.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === `anthony [~anthony@220-253-14-6.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Rotund [~joe@adsl-69-229-144-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ogra [~ogra@p5089EFA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === herzi [~herzi@c177164.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | is dpkg on utter crack for the time being? | 12:20 |
| Mithrandir | dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `-0.tar' | 12:20 |
| Mithrandir | internal error: error occured during execution of dpkg-source in /tmp/d8QniJ0EHx/source/nxcomp: | 12:20 |
| Mithrandir | internal error: could not unpack package to desired level: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog | 12:20 |
| Mithrandir | (Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog = No such file or directory) | 12:20 |
| dholbach | hi Mithrandir | 12:21 |
| Mithrandir | hiya daniel | 12:21 |
| === |QuaD-_ [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| rob^ | Mithrandir, what package did you try to install? | 12:22 |
| dholbach | so you're moved now? | 12:22 |
| tseng | rob^: dpkg-source | 12:22 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: sounds like native packaging with a non-native version number | 12:22 |
| rob^ | weard | 12:22 |
| Mithrandir | daniels: uhm, no? But the upstream version is 1.4.0.2-31 | 12:23 |
| Mithrandir | rob^: none, it's dpkg-source. | 12:23 |
| Mithrandir | dholbach: I'm in Finland now. :-) | 12:23 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: so what file is it trying to unpack? | 12:23 |
| rob^ | yes | 12:24 |
| Mithrandir | daniels: libxcomp0_1.4.0.2-31-0_i386.deb or the -dev package. | 12:24 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: hehe, but you moved already? how's life now? :) | 12:25 |
| Mithrandir | dholbach: yeah, moved to Oslo now. It's icky living in boxes, but we're surviving. | 12:25 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: you're trying to dpkg-source a deb? | 12:25 |
| jsgotangco | bye everyone | 12:25 |
| jsgotangco | night time for me :) | 12:25 |
| Mithrandir | daniels: no, I'm running debuild. :-P | 12:26 |
| === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | dpkg-source -x /home/tfheen/external/nx/pkg-nx/nxcomp/nxcomp_1.4.0.2-31-0.dsc | 12:26 |
| Mithrandir | dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `-0.tar' | 12:26 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: that's how life will be for me too in 6-7 weeks :) | 12:26 |
| Lathiat | Mithrandir: i didnt realise that you where tfheen | 12:27 |
| Mithrandir | hm, yeah, native package. That's wrong. | 12:27 |
| Lathiat | heh | 12:27 |
| fabbione | infinity: is there anybody working on the amd64 error i did past this morning? | 12:31 |
| dholbach | fabbione: problems installing packages on it? | 12:33 |
| dholbach | fabbione: (build-depends) | 12:33 |
| fabbione | dholbach: no, the ld.so assertion failure | 12:33 |
| fabbione | that brings to uninstallable pkgs too | 12:33 |
| fabbione | but that's a consequence | 12:33 |
| fabbione | not the root of the problem | 12:33 |
| dholbach | ah ok... then make it two | 12:33 |
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax7-207.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mirv [~tajyrink@Mirv.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === daniels uploads xorg 6.8.2-35. | ||
| fabbione | daniels: what are you going to break today? | 12:48 |
| === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp236-114.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Treenaks | daniels: does it fix stuff? :) | 12:48 |
| daniels | fabbione: the WORLD. | 12:48 |
| daniels | Treenaks: yeah, and hopefully breaks more stuff too | 12:48 |
| Mirv | smurfix: i got two e-mails with subject:"Ubuntu Suomen keskustelualueet: SMF Database Error!" (ubuntu-fi forums).. do you think that's something to worry about? | 12:48 |
| Treenaks | daniels: uhm.. like? | 12:49 |
| daniels | Treenaks: lots of i810 goodness in there, now installs from scratch, more stuff modularised, no more build dependency loops, ... | 12:49 |
| === Lathiat hides from xorg | ||
| daniels | Treenaks: http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/xorg/changelog-35 | 12:49 |
| daniels | it's a biggie :) | 12:49 |
| Treenaks | ooooohhh | 12:49 |
| Treenaks | display driver separation goo | 12:49 |
| Lathiat | nice release name | 12:49 |
| Mirv | smurfix: ok, I get connection timeout too so something is wrong, yes.. | 12:49 |
| Mirv | smurfix: and anyway, are there backups of the databases in case something goes wrong? | 12:50 |
| daniels | lathithanks | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | whats libice | 12:51 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: upgrade dpkg-dev? | 12:51 |
| daniels | fwiw, the binary line is 2926 characters now | 12:51 |
| Lathiat | and the b-d line? | 12:51 |
| Lathiat | daniels: does this mean if i dist-upgrade from hoary it wont fuck up? | 12:52 |
| daniels | Lathiat: i hope so | 12:52 |
| daniels | Lathiat: b-d is actually shorter | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | neat | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | and more neatness | 12:52 |
| daniels | Lathiat: a mere 1151 characters | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | whough | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | wasnt it like 4000 before? ;p | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | also why no lbxproxy? | 12:53 |
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Treenaks | wb | 12:53 |
| daniels | Lathiat: because it's crap | 12:53 |
| Lathiat | daniels: howso? | 12:53 |
| daniels | Lathiat: nah, the xserver-xorg Depends line was about 4200 characters. it's only around 3100 now. | 12:53 |
| daniels | Lathiat: less performant in almost every situation (both with latency and throughput) than ssh, and definitely far less than nx | 12:54 |
| Lathiat | righto | 12:54 |
| === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | Kamion: ii dpkg-dev 1.13.10 Package building tools for Debian | 01:00 |
| Mithrandir | yay, now it complains about: dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `-0.diff' | 01:02 |
| === one_love_1980 [~one@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mithrandir kicks dpkg | ||
| === AkoluthOfNandus [~simon@p508A6FF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ggi [~ggi@ggi.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Traxer|off [traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ogra [~ogra@p5089FACD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Kamion: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10189 | 01:13 |
| fabbione | Kamion: i think there is something wrong with modprobing in d-i | 01:13 |
| fabbione | this bug is very similar to another one reported by Mithrandir | 01:13 |
| fabbione | in both cases d-i doesn't probe what's in drivers/messages/* | 01:13 |
| fabbione | and both the drivers are hotplug "ok" | 01:14 |
| fabbione | specially this bug.. i did talk with the submitter.. | 01:14 |
| Kamion | d-i isn't doing the probing, hotplug is | 01:14 |
| Kamion | depmod's called at the beginning of each hardware detection run | 01:14 |
| Kamion | so I'm generally puzzled | 01:14 |
| fabbione | Kamion: after the hotplug run.. do we give enough time to udev to create the devices? | 01:14 |
| Kamion | yes, hw-detect runs udevstart | 01:15 |
| fabbione | the submitter told me on irc.. that once he installs with some manual tricks.. the generated initrd is ok | 01:15 |
| fabbione | and contains the proper drivers that are loaded correctly | 01:15 |
| fabbione | or at least it boots fine once installed | 01:15 |
| fabbione | so the combination kernel <-> hotplug <-> udev seems fine | 01:15 |
| fabbione | i am quite puzzled too tbh | 01:15 |
| fabbione | but i can see from the generated modules.pcimap on an installed system.. that they are ok | 01:16 |
| fabbione | in terms that the pci ids are exported properly | 01:16 |
| Kamion | might be good to check modules.pcimap in the installer, right after the failure | 01:16 |
| Kamion | *not* just after boot or whatever | 01:16 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: could you please pull in tfheen@err.no--2005/dpkg--devel--1.13--patch-1 ? | 01:17 |
| fabbione | Kamion: right.. anything else do you think i can ask him? | 01:17 |
| fabbione | Kamion: we also have Mith with the same problem on his amd64 of death | 01:17 |
| fabbione | so we have 2 people that can actually testy | 01:17 |
| === susus [~sz@p5089FACD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Kamion: what priority is scsi-extra-modules ? | 01:20 |
| Kamion | standard | 01:22 |
| Kamion | both hoary and breezy | 01:22 |
| fabbione | so it gets pulled in automatically... or it should at least | 01:23 |
| Kamion | /var/log/syslog would be useful too | 01:23 |
| === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === retrix [~sam@ppp225-190.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | hey mdz | 01:25 |
| maswan | fabbione: buttercup has gotten a powercycle now | 01:26 |
| fabbione | maswan: cool! | 01:26 |
| fabbione | thanks | 01:26 |
| mdz | morning | 01:27 |
| daniels | mdz: back home already? | 01:27 |
| mdz | at debconf | 01:27 |
| daniels | oh, right, i thought you were ircing from there | 01:28 |
| fabbione | mdz: do you have 686 kernel on your laptop? | 01:29 |
| mdz | daniels: I would be, but they filter outbound 6667 | 01:29 |
| mdz | fabbione: yes | 01:29 |
| fabbione | mdz: i am preparing a fix for the tpm stuff.. mind to give it a test? | 01:30 |
| mdz | 2.6.12-3-686 | 01:30 |
| fabbione | mdz: ok :) | 01:31 |
| mdz | fabbione: the bandwidth is not so good on this wireless network, but if I can get it I will test | 01:31 |
| daniels | mdz: sensible | 01:31 |
| fabbione | mdz: ok.. uploading now to people... | 01:31 |
| fabbione | mdz: linux-image-2.6.12-4-686_2.6.12-4.4_i386.deb <- on http://people.u.c/${tilde_thanks_to_fucked_dk_kbd_inX}fabbione/ | 01:33 |
| === rjo [robertjo@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Kamion | fabbione: (%7e works) | 01:34 |
| === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Kamion: ehe ok :) | 01:35 |
| === sivang [~sivan@mail.zend.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sivang [~sivan@mail.zend.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| Treenaks | hibye sivang | 01:37 |
| === jbailey_ [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hieronymus | I think there's something wrong with the new OOo2 packages | 01:41 |
| Hieronymus | which just came in | 01:41 |
| Hieronymus | openoffice.org2-core: Depends: openoffice.org2-common (> 1.9.114) but 1.9.113-0ubuntu2 is installed | 01:41 |
| === Robinho_Peixoto [~preview@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Lathiat | yeh theres issues | 01:42 |
| === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hieronymus | forcing it gives dpkg issues | 01:45 |
| syndicate | gnome-panel depends on libwnck16, but I have a libwnck17, is something being updated (amd64) | 01:48 |
| syndicate | i.e. ubuntu-desktop is broken | 01:48 |
| trulux | anyone knows why transcode is not installable in Ubuntu Hoary? | 01:49 |
| daniels | because marillat's repository doesn't work with hoary. this is an #ubuntu question, and an faq. | 01:50 |
| ogra | trulux, why should it ? we dont ship it | 01:50 |
| trulux | daniels: sorry, just wondering | 01:51 |
| trulux | ogra: because most users back-up their DVDs | 01:51 |
| ogra | trulux, so complain at the guy who broke it ;) | 01:51 |
| trulux | ogra: who's him? :) | 01:53 |
| ogra | dunno, i dont use illegal software | 01:53 |
| ogra | and use growisofs for dvd backups | 01:54 |
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Lathiat | sif use transcode anyway | 01:55 |
| Lathiat | gstreamer is where its at | 01:55 |
| trulux | ogra: transcode illegal? I'm talking about private copies of DVDs I own, if someday I go out with my laptop, I won't take my DVDs box with all of them | 01:56 |
| trulux | ogra: I won't share my private copy with no one else, that's the point where it's wither legal or illegal | 01:57 |
| Lathiat | trulux: thats not legal everywhere | 01:57 |
| Lathiat | but transcode has other uses | 01:57 |
| trulux | well, knifes have many uses. I can cut my food with them or your head off | 01:57 |
| trulux | right? | 01:57 |
| trulux | ;) | 01:57 |
| Lathiat | however, alot of the code for various codecs is dodgy | 01:58 |
| trulux | you know, it's because such type of non sense excuses and reasons that some governments and concretely, certain commercial agencies, want to make private copies illegal | 02:00 |
| trulux | and personal privacy, and P2P networks, and a long etc | 02:00 |
| trulux | it's also because certain commercial agencies want to bring software patents to Europe... | 02:00 |
| trulux | "becase open source has other uses" | 02:00 |
| trulux | s/becase/because/ | 02:01 |
| Hieronymus | well, use free software then | 02:01 |
| trulux | OK, better then: they argue "free software makes no benefit, it's viral and any one else can re-use your work with no warranty of copyright laws" | 02:02 |
| trulux | just read, even if it's a painful thing, Steve Ballmer's interviews | 02:03 |
| Lathiat | dude | 02:03 |
| Lathiat | way off topic | 02:03 |
| Lathiat | forge tit already | 02:03 |
| trulux | well, you started it, I'm just following up and trying to bring some sense to the conversation | 02:03 |
| trulux | no worries, if someone asks, I will try to prepare a transcode package for Hoary | 02:04 |
| Lathiat | trulux: ubp has one | 02:05 |
| trulux | Lathiat: ubp? | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | backports | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | in hoary-extras | 02:05 |
| trulux | ah | 02:05 |
| trulux | ok | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | their evil, but the extras arent so evil | 02:05 |
| trulux | thanks | 02:05 |
| trulux | ;) | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | now #ubuntu next time kthxbai | 02:05 |
| trulux | great then | 02:05 |
| trulux | sure, I apologize | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | nps | 02:06 |
| dholbach | syndicate: there'll be an updated package soon | 02:07 |
| === chol_ is now known as chol | ||
| === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| whiprush | morning dholbach, thx for fixing streamtuner. | 02:19 |
| dholbach | whiprush: hey! no problem - it's still "missing" on amd64, but that's a buildd problem | 02:20 |
| === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt2.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === retrix__ [~sam@ppp225-190.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === _vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === _vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| daniels | bah, xorg ftbfs on powerpc. two outta three ain't bad. | 02:39 |
| === daniels -> bed | ||
| === thierry__ [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === retrix__ is now known as retrix | ||
| === elmo [~james@a130-233-4-133.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | see you later | 02:47 |
| ogra | elmo, so what do you need additionally for squeak ? | 02:49 |
| jbailey_ | Does anyone have a *simple* testcase that shows off the amd64 bug at program start time? | 02:53 |
| jbailey_ | Reducing from python is a bit difficult... | 02:54 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey_: what amd64 bug? | 02:54 |
| === _vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jbailey_ | Mithrandir: ld.so detects an inconsistancy when installing python2.4 | 02:54 |
| jbailey_ | Fabio said he saw it in the kernel build, but I can't reproduce it (I have a segfault with mv, but I think I'd rather chase one fault at a time) | 02:55 |
| Mithrandir | uh, uh. | 02:55 |
| Mithrandir | I'm not at home, so I can't really help you, I'm afraid. | 02:55 |
| seb128 | elmo: glib2.0 (experimental) inkscape hardware-monitor meld syncs please | 02:57 |
| === asw [~asw@mcb1013.mcb.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jbailey_ | Mithrandir: No worries. It's motivation for me to get around to buying amd64 hardware, I guess. =( | 02:58 |
| jbailey_ | Or I wonder if bochs does amd64 yet. I know they were talking about adding it. | 02:59 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey_: I thought that was supported for years already? | 02:59 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey_: if you can do it in just a breezy chroot, ravel's always around | 02:59 |
| jbailey_ | Is ravel that machine I was on before that had hardware errors of some sort? | 03:00 |
| jbailey_ | Actually, there's a few machines I should try now that I have a better net connection overseas. | 03:01 |
| jbailey_ | My previous provider use to just suck for connecting to some people. | 03:01 |
| Mithrandir | ravel is pre-production newisys equipment, so it dies once in a while, yes. | 03:01 |
| === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === aigarius [~aigarius@a130-233-4-123.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | ajmitch: around? | 03:07 |
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === _vedran [~vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jlj [~agp@ang.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thierry_ [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thierry_ | how can I make a change for a package to change the place it appears in the gnome menu? | 03:32 |
| thierry_ | like for ubuntu bug 4069 | 03:32 |
| mdke | edit the .desktop file in the package i believe | 03:32 |
| thierry_ | k going to try this... | 03:32 |
| ogra | thierry_, copy the .desktop file for this app from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications/ | 03:33 |
| ogra | and edit the Categories line | 03:33 |
| thierry_ | ogra, it's not for me, it's for fixing a bug | 03:33 |
| ogra | thierry_, ah, ok, i thought for your desktop | 03:34 |
| ogra | thierry_, could you elaborate how that related to #4096 ? | 03:35 |
| ogra | relates | 03:36 |
| === Kinnison [~dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Kinnison | Hi, is there an ETA on linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12 ? | 03:36 |
| ogra | Kinnison, poke daniels.... | 03:36 |
| ogra | Kinnison, he seems to have been quite busy recently, regarding the last xorg changelog :) | 03:37 |
| thierry_ | ogra, well ubuntu bug 4069 says that emacs should be in the programming folder of applications (in the gnome menu) so I wanted to make the changes and submit a patch | 03:37 |
| ogra | thierry_, you mean this 4096 ? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4096 | 03:38 |
| ogra | for me it says "PHP mail() function does not work by default" | 03:38 |
| thierry_ | ogra : not 4096! it's 4069 : https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4069 | 03:38 |
| Kinnison | ogra: ta | 03:39 |
| ogra | ah | 03:39 |
| === Kinnison [~dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| ogra | sorry, my fault | 03:39 |
| thierry_ | ogra : but do you think I should let it as Text Editor? | 03:39 |
| thom | also, oo2 is fucked. HTH hand | 03:39 |
| ogra | i think the decision once was not to have emacs and gvim in the manu at all | 03:40 |
| ogra | menu | 03:40 |
| ogra | but that might have changed over time.... | 03:40 |
| thierry_ | k... | 03:40 |
| === jdthood [~jdthood@x095.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdthood [~jdthood@x095.decis.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === asw [~asw@mcb1013.mcb.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thierry_ | dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -S doesn't work on the emacs21 package | 03:49 |
| === swarm [~swarm@151.97.253.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ogra | thierry_, with fakeroot ? | 03:53 |
| Kamion | thierry_: exact error | 03:54 |
| \sh | und ich hoffe nicht, dass der besitzer nicht der ist, dem auch das gentoo-forum.de gehoert | 04:05 |
| === mdke coughs | ||
| === Lathiat mumbles | ||
| === mdke scrambles for his German dictionary | ||
| === Lathiat scrambles for a google translator | ||
| ogra | mdke, Lathiat its not worth the fuss :) | 04:07 |
| ogra | totally out of context ;) | 04:07 |
| mdke | ;) | 04:07 |
| Lathiat | beh | 04:08 |
| Lathiat | i want to learn german | 04:08 |
| Lathiat | it se | 04:08 |
| Lathiat | ems like a cool langauge | 04:08 |
| Lathiat | all the other languages seem boring | 04:08 |
| ogra | "cool" is a good match *g* | 04:08 |
| ogra | cold woud even fit better | 04:09 |
| ogra | would | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | Kamion, ogra : thierry@modemcable050:~/dev/ubun/emacs21-21.3+1$ dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -S | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | dpkg-buildpackage: source package is emacs21 | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 21.3+1-8ubuntu8 | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is thierry <thierryn@videotron.ca> | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | debian/rules clean | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | debian/rules:15: /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | make: *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make . Arrt. | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | sorry for the french stuff... | 04:09 |
| Treenaks | thierry_: uh... | 04:09 |
| thierry_ | yeah I know im flooding too sorry | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | thierry_: apt-get install dpatch | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | probably | 04:10 |
| thierry_ | k going to try | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | if that means "FIle not found" | 04:10 |
| ogra | nope, build-depend on it :) | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | ogra: I had the same problem yesterday | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | ogra: I let pbuilder handle the build-deps | 04:10 |
| ogra | Treenaks, the clean solution is to build-depend on it... the quick solution is sudo apt-get install dpatch ;) | 04:11 |
| Treenaks | ogra: so dpatch wasn't installed when I tried to dpkg-buildpackage -S | 04:11 |
| Lathiat | if its doesnt b-d on it it will probably fail in the buildd anyway | 04:11 |
| ogra | yep | 04:11 |
| ogra | exactly | 04:11 |
| thierry_ | Treenaks : yeah thanks it works | 04:11 |
| ogra | Treenaks, workaround vs. solution ;) | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | ogra: so yes, there was a build-depends, but I don't like installing 600.000 build-deps for lots of stuff when I have pbuilder | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | ogra: so dpatch was enough to build the diff/dsc | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | ogra: and pbuilder took care of the rest | 04:12 |
| ogra | Treenaks, dpatch is called from debian/rules above | 04:12 |
| Treenaks | ogra: yes, same with lirc | 04:12 |
| ogra | so it wouldnt work in a pbuilder without build-dependency | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | ogra: lirc build-depends on dpatch BUT I don't install build-deps: pbuilder installs them inside the chroot when building | 04:13 |
| ogra | Treenaks, yes | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | ogra: so I had to install dpatch OUTSIDE my chroot to be able to build the source package | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | ogra: which I then gave to pbuilder | 04:13 |
| Lathiat | but it should whinge if build-deps arent satisfied? | 04:14 |
| Lathiat | mine did | 04:14 |
| ogra | Treenaks, so dpatch is called from the clean target ? | 04:14 |
| ogra | Treenaks, thats not nice | 04:14 |
| Treenaks | ogra: yes | 04:14 |
| Lathiat | ah | 04:14 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: -S works always | 04:14 |
| Lathiat | right | 04:15 |
| === wasabi_ [~wasabi@207.55.180.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === CavalierBob [~bob@c-24-4-128-79.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| smurfix | Does anybody know if/when elmo will show up again? | 04:20 |
| Treenaks | "When time permits" ? | 04:20 |
| smurfix | "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." | 04:21 |
| Treenaks | smurfix: I wish | 04:21 |
| === sabdfl [~mark@pc-n253.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === CavalierBob [~bob@c-24-4-128-79.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ggi [~ggi@ggi.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| lamont | daniels: so I see -35, are we waiting for NEW love on the new packages? | 04:39 |
| === odeez [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| CavalierBob | Hi all. | 04:47 |
| CavalierBob | Sorry to bother the dev list with this, but I'm seeing a MD5Sums mismatch on a package in Main for 2 days now. Can someone here look at it or should I file a bug? | 04:48 |
| Hieronymus | CavalierBob: not using us.archive.ubuntu.com are you? | 04:49 |
| === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| CavalierBob | Hieronymus: As a matter of fact, I see I am...problem there? | 04:50 |
| lamont | CavalierBob: sounds like a mirror bug | 04:51 |
| lamont | rather than an ubuntu bug | 04:51 |
| === Robinho_Peixoto [~preview@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === elmo [~james@a130-233-4-133.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| CavalierBob | Right, I'll switch mirrors and give it a try again. Thanks! | 04:51 |
| === CavalierBob [~bob@c-24-4-128-79.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
| === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === anibal [ams@ns1.mssinc.biz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| sabdfl | jbailey: schnaaaake! | 05:10 |
| sabdfl | hey anibal, how do you get the .biz from .fi? | 05:11 |
| anibal | sabdfl, by using dircproxy | 05:11 |
| === _malex is now known as malex | ||
| sabdfl | anibal: cute! | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | You can have your reverse dns at anything | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | my aussie dsl is penguins.squaa.org | 05:12 |
| jbailey | sabdfl: heyhey | 05:12 |
| === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | elmo: glib2.0 (experimental) inkscape hardware-monitor meld anjuta syncs please | 05:14 |
| === crimsun [~dtchen@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jbailey | hmm. | 05:28 |
| jbailey | Oh yeah, debuild clears the path. | 05:28 |
| jbailey | whups, ECHAN | 05:28 |
| === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === carstenh [~carstenh@mkfw.fh-trier.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pitti [~pitti@a130-233-5-163.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | Hi | 05:42 |
| ogra | oh, the finnish ubuntu security team is around :) | 05:43 |
| ogra | pitti, how is HEL ? | 05:43 |
| pitti | ogra: nice indeed; much hotter and greener than I expected | 05:45 |
| === mdke_ [~matt@81-178-112-178.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === vedran [~vedran@195.130.52.250] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | hey pitti | 05:46 |
| pitti | Hi seb128, how are you | 05:46 |
| === aio [~aio@adsl-215-153-238.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| aio | is there a problm with libstdc++6_4.0-0pre6ubuntu7_i386? | 05:47 |
| seb128 | pitti: a bit overloaded (new GNOME version this week, bug flood, and specs to move this week) but fine :) | 05:47 |
| aio | i keep getting an MD5Sum mismatch error on it. | 05:47 |
| crimsun | aio: use a different mirror. | 05:47 |
| Kamion | aio: if you're using us.archive.ubuntu.com, try a different mirror | 05:47 |
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| zyga | hello | 05:50 |
| zyga | symphony os makers have released an interesting document about UI design | 05:50 |
| zyga | I thought that someone might be interested: http://homepage.mac.com/jasonspisak/Mezzo/Menu3.html | 05:51 |
| === jinty [~jinty@a130-233-5-251.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| rob^ | I'm getting this when trying to find and import my gpg key in Lauchpad: Key was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours. | 05:59 |
| rob^ | any ideas? | 05:59 |
| Hieronymus | you need to be part of web of trust I think. | 06:01 |
| ogra | yes, your key should be on a keyserver and valid | 06:02 |
| rob^ | which keyserver does it use? | 06:02 |
| ogra | rob^, ask in #launchpad ? | 06:02 |
| rob^ | ok | 06:03 |
| === lupus1010 [~lupus@dD5E03E60.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdke_ is now known as mdke | ||
| === sebest [~chatzilla@77.245.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| sebest | hello, anyone knows the name of the package that contains the "notification area" applet? | 06:19 |
| Lathiat | sebest: gnome-applets i suspect | 06:20 |
| seb128 | gnome-panel | 06:20 |
| Lathiat | ahah, yes | 06:20 |
| seb128 | /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet | 06:20 |
| sebest | i'm trying to find why it doesn't handle panel transparency | 06:21 |
| Lathiat | sebest: part of thats probably due to the icons being xembedded | 06:22 |
| Lathiat | hrm, the patch for the window list should go in | 06:23 |
| sebest | lathiat, you mean embeded in the code? | 06:23 |
| Lathiat | and clearlooks needs som elove on its handles | 06:23 |
| Lathiat | sebest: nah like, when an application displays an icon | 06:23 |
| Lathiat | sebest: aiui, its an X windows from another application | 06:23 |
| Lathiat | so i dunno if you can fix that within notif applet or if its due to the implementation | 06:23 |
| sebest | ah, i see | 06:24 |
| Lathiat | feel free to poke.. | 06:24 |
| sebest | oki, i'm :) | 06:25 |
| === hughsie [~hughsie@host213-122-89-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| hughsie | ogra:ping | 06:44 |
| ogra | hughsie, pong.... soryy, havent packaged yet | 06:44 |
| hughsie | ogra: don;t bother, i have new things... :-) | 06:44 |
| hughsie | let me run these past you as an ubuntu'er | 06:45 |
| ogra | ok | 06:45 |
| hughsie | package "pmscripts" contains /usr/sbin/pm-shutdown pm-hibernate, pm-suspend. It's designed for distros to tweak to what they want. | 06:46 |
| hughsie | package powermanager contains simple dbus server that lets ordinary users execute just these scripts according to polict in /etc/dbus | 06:46 |
| hughsie | package gnome-power contains all the gui and configuarion, and the session daemon | 06:47 |
| === Gerrath [Gerrath@shanev.lifecor.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ogra | so we have a backend server now ? | 06:47 |
| ogra | who listens for the dbus messages ? | 06:47 |
| hughsie | not really a server, it just lets normal users do things like echo "disk" > /sys/power/state | 06:48 |
| hughsie | in a safe way of course | 06:48 |
| ogra | how is this safe way designed ? how do you work around using suid ? | 06:49 |
| hughsie | ogra: how do I do a private chat in x-chat? | 06:49 |
| hughsie | using the permissions in dbus | 06:49 |
| hughsie | not suid. | 06:49 |
| hughsie | suid bad ;-) | 06:49 |
| mdke | is the website down? | 06:49 |
| mdke | i can't connect | 06:49 |
| mgalvin | mdke, which site? | 06:51 |
| mgalvin | i can hit ubuntu.com | 06:52 |
| mdke | hmm | 06:52 |
| mdke | i can't | 06:52 |
| mdke | weird | 06:52 |
| mdke | whats the ip address? | 06:52 |
| mgalvin | i do know there have been some dns issues in th uk... | 06:52 |
| mgalvin | over the past few days | 06:52 |
| lamont | Kamion/elmo: binutils-hppa64 universe->main please | 06:52 |
| mdke | ah | 06:53 |
| mgalvin | thats why i have had such bad speeds to site over there | 06:53 |
| mgalvin | coming from the us | 06:53 |
| mgalvin | anyway | 06:53 |
| mdke | okies | 06:53 |
| mgalvin | 82.211.81.130 | 06:53 |
| mdke | i can't ping it | 06:54 |
| mgalvin | hmm, i can | 06:55 |
| === mdke shrugs | ||
| lamont | Kamion/elmo: gcc-* kinda build-dep it for hppa | 06:57 |
| === |QuaD-_ [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Kamion | lamont: leaving that to elmo, I don't know the policy on main stuff for hppa | 07:01 |
| === _vedran [~vedran@195.130.52.250] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| lamont | Kamion: np. one more thing for elmo's list. :) | 07:05 |
| lamont | some other stuff has moved (gcc-3.4-hppa64, I believe), but the scripts don't do it automatically | 07:06 |
| lamont | otoh, none of the gcc uploads for hppa have made hte archive, so that's a bad example | 07:08 |
| lamont | well, all the hppa-specific kernel packages are in main anyway... | 07:09 |
| lamont | but enough for now... /me ->work | 07:10 |
| === hub [~hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mgalvin | hey guys, what installation types/methods will be supported in breezy (cdrom, smb, tftp, etc...)? | 07:23 |
| === _vedran is now known as vedran | ||
| Kamion | mgalvin: no additional methods currently planned over hoary | 07:27 |
| mgalvin | Kamion, ok and what are the "Officially Supported" types now | 07:28 |
| Kamion | mgalvin: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html | 07:29 |
| mgalvin | need to know for docs | 07:29 |
| mgalvin | Kamion, thanks! | 07:29 |
| Kamion | you should already be referring to that manual | 07:29 |
| === pitti_ [~pitti@a130-233-5-116.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ogra | pitti_, ping | 07:46 |
| mdke | i still can't hit ubuntu.com | 07:46 |
| === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === eruin [~eruin@85.89.192.56] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_ | Hi ogra | 07:54 |
| === doko [~doko@a130-233-5-210.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_ | Hi doko :-) | 07:55 |
| Mez | :'( you say hi to them but not me :'( | 07:56 |
| === Mez slaps pitti_ meanie | ||
| doko | hi pitti | 07:57 |
| === pitti_ whishes Mez a really great evening and hugs him heartily | ||
| Mez | :P | 07:57 |
| === Mez glares at pitti anyways | ||
| pitti_ | Mez: ENOREALNAME | 07:57 |
| === ogra_ [~ogra@p5089C756.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_ | ogra_: ping2 | 07:58 |
| Mez | pitti_, huh? | 07:58 |
| carstenh | "ircname : Mez" vs. "ircname : Martin Pitt" | 08:00 |
| hughsie | pitti_ : can you join g-p-conspiracy plz | 08:03 |
| === Mez shrugs | ||
| Mez | people IRL call me Mez... | 08:13 |
| Mez | so that's my name | 08:13 |
| carstenh | thats your nich, but not your realname | 08:15 |
| carstenh | nick | 08:16 |
| carstenh | it's not your nick that is wrong, it's the ircname-field. try /whois somenick | 08:17 |
| === sebest [~chatzilla@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === hughsie [~hughsie@host213-122-89-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === neiras [~gbauman@64.114.203.161] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| neiras | Hello - Is there a MOTU present? We're having a package problem | 08:46 |
| neiras | The Hoary package 'ruby1.8' is two days older than the stable ruby1.8 - it's actually a pre-release. Some ruby applications are requiring the stable edition and refusing to run. | 08:48 |
| === srbaker_ [~srbaker_@64.114.203.161] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| srbaker_ | yo | 08:49 |
| === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === elmo [~james@a130-233-4-133.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| neiras | Seems like a pretty good candidate for a hoary update, since there were some important fixes to ruby in that time | 08:49 |
| crimsun | neiras: sorry, we MOTUs aren't in charge of that. It's a package in main. | 08:50 |
| neiras | okay. How should we proceed? | 08:50 |
| ogra | crimsun, ECHAN ? | 08:51 |
| ogra | ;) | 08:51 |
| crimsun | ogra: I thought too, but he asked in here ;) | 08:51 |
| srbaker_ | oh for fuck sakes | 08:51 |
| srbaker_ | there's more energy wasted talking about which chan to talk in than sovling the fucking problem | 08:51 |
| crimsun | chill, srbaker_ | 08:52 |
| JanC | srbaker_ : the MOTUs *can't* solve this | 08:52 |
| srbaker_ | JanC: i know. | 08:52 |
| JanC | so don't yell at them, you might need them later ;) | 08:53 |
| crimsun | keep in mind that quite a few of the developers are at DebConf, so resources are limited | 08:53 |
| neiras | So who can? | 08:53 |
| neiras | Should I be filing a bug on this or what | 08:53 |
| srbaker_ | jbailey: is this soemthing you can deal with? i know you're home :) | 08:53 |
| JanC | a bug report is always good | 08:54 |
| crimsun | neiras: the easiest resolution at this point would be to adjust the version check in whatever application | 08:54 |
| neiras | I can do that, but we need this working yesterday and a lot of people will be experiencing the issue shortly... It'd be good to have an official fix asap | 08:54 |
| jbailey | srbaker_: Is there a bugzilla entry filed for it with the exact text of an error message? Nothing will get into Hoary now without a decent bug report and some information as to why the bug is important. | 08:54 |
| srbaker_ | crimsun: the check isn't what depends on the new ruby. it's the code that will break that depends on the new version | 08:55 |
| neiras | crimsun, the fixes were critical. | 08:55 |
| ogra | important == dataloss or big security hole | 08:55 |
| crimsun | then jeff has the correct resolution, which is to file a bug with the proper details | 08:55 |
| srbaker_ | crimsun: they wouldn't have added a version check if it didn't require the new version | 08:55 |
| srbaker_ | good | 08:55 |
| === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === blueyed [~daniel@i528C3CCF.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jinty [~jinty@a130-233-5-251.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Simira [~rpGirl@a130-233-4-152.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-1450.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ahuman01 [~ahuman01@pool-151-197-40-157.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| neiras | I've added https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12613 if anyone is interested or knows who should see it. | 09:26 |
| Amaranth | neiras: That's sick. | 09:28 |
| Amaranth | neiras: ruby apps make you upgrade to a version released on an exact day? | 09:29 |
| neiras | Amaranth, 1.8.2 is stable - why is prerelease code being shipped in Hoary anyway? | 09:29 |
| Burgundavia | neiras, didn't make the code freeze | 09:29 |
| Burgundavia | I gues | 09:29 |
| neiras | Burgundavia, true, but that's what updates are for :/ | 09:29 |
| Amaranth | no | 09:30 |
| Amaranth | hoary-updates is for crashers and/or very serious bugs | 09:30 |
| Amaranth | this might qualify, but i have a feeling it'll be like firefox | 09:31 |
| neiras | Amaranth, it's not like this is an everyday occurrence for Ruby apps. The fixes that went into Ruby in that timeframe were for serious bugs | 09:31 |
| Amaranth | in two days they fixed a bunch of serious bugs and released? | 09:31 |
| neiras | Apps that are checking this would otherwise be affected. | 09:31 |
| neiras | It was caught late. | 09:31 |
| Amaranth | if so, i don't think i want to trust ruby | 09:31 |
| neiras | That's up to you, but some people have to :) | 09:32 |
| Amaranth | if the bugs are as serious as you make it sound and were hard to find, they should have taken more than 2 days to get fixed and QA'ed | 09:32 |
| neiras | there's a time for purism, and a time for pragmatism | 09:32 |
| neiras | shoulda/coulda/wouldas aren't useful right now :) | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | neiras, this post to the Ubuntu devel mailing list making your case | 09:32 |
| neiras | Burgundavia, shall do, thanks. | 09:33 |
| === camilotelles [~Camilo@fwcpd.ufba.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| srbaker_ | Amaranth: shipping pre-release software is stupid at best, and is certainly cause for an update | 09:55 |
| lamont | doko: you around? | 09:58 |
| doko | lamont: yes | 09:59 |
| doko | where does gcc fail? ;-) | 09:59 |
| fabbione | doko: any news about the gcc ICE's ? | 10:01 |
| fabbione | specially the one on ppc i am interested in | 10:01 |
| === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| doko | fabbione: no, not yet. sorry. distracted with gcc-4.0 FTBS on alpha. | 10:01 |
| fabbione | doko: ok.... | 10:02 |
| doko | and I use the time to pester goto, as long as he's here ;) | 10:02 |
| === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ogra | poor guy | 10:04 |
| ogra | :) | 10:04 |
| doko | lucky ogra until I don't have time for him | 10:06 |
| === ogra looks for a good photo of doko for the new xscreensaver lockwindow background he is just compiling | ||
| ogra | doko, be careful ;) | 10:07 |
| === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK | ||
| === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === doko is changing the oogra splash screen | ||
| ogra | heh | 10:25 |
| ivoks | ;) | 10:25 |
| doko | well, better not, ubuntu is about humanity ... | 10:26 |
| fabbione | doko: ahaha | 10:26 |
| doko | just got a grappa from enrico, and it's thom's birthday | 10:27 |
| fabbione | ohi | 10:27 |
| fabbione | grappa is good, isn't it? | 10:28 |
| doko | sweeet | 10:28 |
| fabbione | ehehe | 10:28 |
| ogra | happy b-day thom !! | 10:28 |
| fabbione | i really wish i could have come | 10:28 |
| doko | ogra: I'll tell him | 10:30 |
| ogra | thanks | 10:31 |
| === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thesaltydog | ogra, ? | 10:39 |
| === neiras [~gbauman@64.114.203.161] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| mdke | hey thesaltydog! | 10:39 |
| ogra | thesaltydog, ? | 10:40 |
| thesaltydog | here I am oliver. A m inute? | 10:41 |
| ogra | yep | 10:42 |
| === wasabi_ [~wasabi@207.55.180.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thesaltydog | i have not yet installed breezy, but a friend told me there is a BUM mini-clone in it.. What is? | 10:42 |
| ogra | thesaltydog, its the service manager from gnome-system-tools | 10:43 |
| thesaltydog | are you including the whole GST? | 10:43 |
| ogra | we had it always in... only disabled the things that were not stable enough....its a part of gnome | 10:44 |
| thesaltydog | ogra, yes. So you "downgraded" the service tool..:-) | 10:44 |
| ogra | no, we just didnt compile it... it was always in the source but what you see now is a rewrite without the dangerous parts and a easier ui... | 10:46 |
| ogra | i admit it looks a bit like a dumbed down bum | 10:46 |
| ogra | but its C | 10:46 |
| ogra | with the default gst perl backend .... | 10:46 |
| thesaltydog | I have rewritten Baobab in C. A couple of days it will be online. | 10:46 |
| ogra | great :) | 10:47 |
| ogra | looks really neat | 10:47 |
| thesaltydog | a couple of debian mainainers asked me to get BUM in debian main inclusion... | 10:47 |
| ogra | yay | 10:47 |
| ogra | thats great | 10:47 |
| ogra | you should definately do that | 10:48 |
| thesaltydog | yes I will, even if I designed it for ubuntu.. | 10:48 |
| ogra | and i guess you learned eough about packaging the last months to apply for maintainership yourself ;) | 10:48 |
| thesaltydog | booooring | 10:48 |
| ogra | hehe | 10:49 |
| thesaltydog | once finished the C verison of Baobab, could I upload it in REVU? | 10:49 |
| ogra | sure | 10:49 |
| thesaltydog | I'll send you a memo, then. | 10:49 |
| ogra | yep :) | 10:50 |
| === swarm [~swarm@host252-126.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hieronym1s [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| thesaltydog | thanks Oliver, bye. | 10:50 |
| ogra | bye :) | 10:50 |
| === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0559.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dholbach [foobar@td9091c34.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.200.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| slomo | hi... i've created an updated faad2 package which now uses the original upstream source (which wasn't the case with the package currently in breezy). it's uploaded here http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=88 now the question is what to do with the changed tarball as there is no new upstream version and the two would collide when uploaded | 11:16 |
| === LinuxJones [~willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Kamion | slomo: there's no way to do that other than to invent a version for the changed upstream tarball that you're confident won't collide with any other upstream release | 11:18 |
| slomo | Kamion: maybe something like faad2-2.0.0.ubuntu.orig.tar.gz for the tarball? | 11:19 |
| Kamion | "ubuntu" implies that the changes to the upstream source originated with Ubuntu, which apparently isn't accurate here | 11:20 |
| Kamion | I'd go with something more like 2.0.0real | 11:20 |
| Kamion | what are the changes in the .orig.tar.gz currently in breezy versus what upstream released? | 11:20 |
| slomo | at least all the files created by autoreconf and a config.log | 11:21 |
| Kamion | 2.0.0clean would be an option too | 11:23 |
| slomo | ok, i'll take 2.0.0clean then :) thanks | 11:24 |
| slomo | the current version is 2.0.0-0.5... would the new one be 2.0.0clean-0ubuntu1? | 11:26 |
| === jp [~jp@216-155-93-26.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| slomo | Kamion? | 11:35 |
| === sabdfl [~mark@pc-n253.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Kamion | slomo: yes - but please co-ordinate with the Debian maintainer so that we don't get into a state where the Debian maintainer uploads 2.0.0clean as well and then we're unable to sync it because it's a different .orig.tar.gz | 11:37 |
| Kamion | (which would be a pain) | 11:37 |
| sabdfl | hy guys | 11:37 |
| Kamion | hi Mark | 11:37 |
| sabdfl | err... hey | 11:37 |
| slomo | Kamion: there is no debian maintainer... this package was imported from marillat's repository | 11:37 |
| ogra | hey sabdfl | 11:38 |
| Kamion | slomo: oh, er, eek | 11:39 |
| Kamion | slomo: co-ordinate with Marillat then if you can :-) | 11:39 |
| Kamion | .orig.tar.gz desyncs are a nightmare | 11:39 |
| ogra | Kamion, do we actively import from there ? | 11:39 |
| === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| sabdfl | hiya ogra | 11:39 |
| ogra | i thought that was a one time thing | 11:39 |
| ajmitch | hi | 11:39 |
| sabdfl | ogra: sync before release too, i think | 11:40 |
| ogra | sabdfl, ah | 11:40 |
| ogra | sabdfl, looks bad for squeak, did elmo talk to you ? | 11:40 |
| sabdfl | ogra: notyet, i'll ask him tomorrow | 11:41 |
| Kamion | ogra: there's support in katie for doing so; it's currently commented out so it looks like something elmo does periodically | 11:41 |
| Kamion | sabdfl: we should be doing that sometime around now for breezy I think, since upstream-version-freeze was end of last week | 11:41 |
| ogra | sabdfl, great... | 11:41 |
| slomo | Kamion: i've rewritten the complete package because of this and added me as maintainer... i've written marillat before and his answer was to talk to ubuntu to solve this | 11:41 |
| Kamion | hoary was a rush and would ideally not be repeated :) | 11:41 |
| Kamion | slomo: ok, typical unhelpful response from him there | 11:42 |
| sabdfl | Kamion: ok, dholbach did it last time | 11:43 |
| sabdfl | he'd likely be happy to do it sooner this time | 11:43 |
| dholbach | erm | 11:43 |
| dholbach | what are you guys talking about? ;) | 11:43 |
| slomo | Kamion: so it's ok the way i did it? | 11:43 |
| sabdfl | you! | 11:43 |
| Kamion | dholbach: syncs from non-Debian sources | 11:43 |
| Kamion | slomo: probably about the best you're going to get | 11:43 |
| dholbach | Kamion: yeah, that was funny, especially the wiki-bit ;) | 11:44 |
| dholbach | i think i'll have the lists of packages-to-be-imported ready 2 weeks for release | 11:44 |
| slomo | kafeine: ok, fine... thanks for your help :) | 11:44 |
| dholbach | that should suffice, shouldnt it? | 11:44 |
| slomo | hum, i meant Kamion... sorry | 11:44 |
| ogra | dholbach, Kamion wants UVF for universe too.... | 11:46 |
| Kamion | ogra: not just me, I checked that with mdz first | 11:46 |
| dholbach | i'm going to cry | 11:46 |
| ogra | dholbach, Kamion and mdz want UVF for universe too | 11:46 |
| ogra | :) | 11:46 |
| === srbaker_ [~srbaker_@64.114.203.161] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| Kamion | obviously UVF would be applied to universe rather more leniently than to main | 11:47 |
| dholbach | i'll have time for this 6 weeks before release | 11:47 |
| === Darryl [~Darryl@S010600e07da91f68.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ajmitch | Kamion: UVF being last week? | 11:47 |
| dholbach | and we have millions of new packages to get in | 11:47 |
| Kamion | ajmitch: right | 11:47 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yep | 11:47 |
| === Darryl [~Darryl@S010600e07da91f68.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| Kamion | remember guys, there will be more releases; there's always a newness/stability trade-off | 11:47 |
| dholbach | (MOTUNewPackages, REVU, UniverseCandidates, AptGetOrg, ...) | 11:47 |
| ajmitch | how will UVF affect new packages coming in? | 11:48 |
| dholbach | and we're lagging so much behind review wise | 11:48 |
| Kamion | of course entirely new packages don't have the same constraints, since they're clearly not liable to break stuff that people are already using | 11:48 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: they won't come in | 11:48 |
| Kamion | ajmitch: not clear exactly what the rules are for those, haven't talked to mdz | 11:48 |
| dholbach | Kamion: that's nice :) | 11:48 |
| Kamion | but I think the above is roughly sensible ... | 11:48 |
| dholbach | yeah | 11:49 |
| ajmitch | Kamion: sounds good | 11:49 |
| dholbach | ok, if we're able to get the new crack in shortly before release, i'm happy | 11:49 |
| === siretart agrees with Kamion that we should not do any transitions like the libaa transition in universe for breezy | ||
| ogra | dholbach, NEW is not very much... | 11:50 |
| dholbach | because i already feel bad for not doing enough reviews and letting lots of people wait on their good work | 11:50 |
| dholbach | ogra: ? | 11:50 |
| ogra | dholbach, is all apt-get.org new ? | 11:50 |
| ogra | i doubt it | 11:50 |
| dholbach | ogra: of course not, but think of all the new packages | 11:51 |
| dholbach | ogra: and the annoyed motu hopefuls | 11:51 |
| dholbach | ogra: the new packages would be their chance to get in (and rewarded for their work) | 11:51 |
| dholbach | but oh well... i think we don't have to discuss this | 11:51 |
| ogra | dholbach, sure, but we still have about 500 C++ packages to gain fame with....and idontknowhowmany broken x dependencys through the modularization | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | we've got > 20 new packages waiting for review on revu | 11:52 |
| dholbach | ogra: sure | 11:52 |
| Kamion | siretart: mm, there's probably some awkward slang2 stuff pending | 11:53 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: don't forget MOTUNewPackages and MOTUToReview | 11:53 |
| Kamion | not quite sure what to do about that as it affects the installer | 11:53 |
| ogra | ajmitch, thats nothing compared to the broken stuff | 11:53 |
| === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | ogra: i'll try to set up UniverseUnmetDeps in the next days - that'll be a start to sink our teeth in | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | ogra: so what's the current motu todo list that people really need done? | 11:53 |
| siretart | Kamion: uuh. sounds annoying. how difficult will be the transition? just a few build depends or porting work? | 11:54 |
| Kamion | siretart: bit of both | 11:54 |
| siretart | :/ | 11:54 |
| ogra | ajmitch, C++ (still, sigh) ... xorg depending packages .... | 11:54 |
| Kamion | siretart: it's mostly done in Debian though | 11:54 |
| Kamion | I think just before UVF | 11:54 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: reviewing, MOM merging, fixing packages, malone/bugzilla :) | 11:54 |
| Kamion | at least all the installer-relevant stuff should be done | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: fun | 11:54 |
| ogra | yes, what dholbach said | 11:54 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
