[01:43] <rob^> a few changes to the faq guide I take it..
[01:55] <mgalvin> yup, and i've got a few more comming soon
[02:03] <rob^> how many new entities are you making?
[02:12] <mgalvin> a bunch, not sure exactly, one for each of the default gnome menu entries, at least the System menu for now
[02:13] <mgalvin> and i am using them in the faqguide and other docs too
[02:15] <rob^> yeah, I just saw an example on the mailing list, much nicer
[02:20] <mgalvin> i just emailed another faqguide patch to the list
[02:20] <mgalvin> once someone (jeffsch, froud, mdke) commits it, feel free to work on it
[02:20] <mgalvin> i am done with the faqguide for tonight
[02:22] <rob^> yeah.. I'm about to go out, so np
[04:35] <mgalvin> good night all
[08:03] <froud> African Greetings
[08:10] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:10] <Burgundavia> my machine boots again!
[08:13] <rob^> howdy
[08:18] <jsgotangco> salut
[10:14] <jsgotangco> hello
[10:54] <jsgotangco> does anyone remember our toolchain listing?
[03:16] <mgalvin> hi all
[03:21] <mdke> hi mgalvin, all
[03:23] <mgalvin> hi mdke
[03:23] <mdke> how's it going?
[03:23] <mgalvin> pretty good, working
[03:29] <mdke> cool
[03:50] <mdke> mgalvin, how are we looking on that commit account?
[03:50] <mdke> hi gtaylor 
[03:51] <gtaylor> hey mdke
[03:51] <gtaylor> Just got rained on bigtime by the Dennis remnants
[03:51] <mdke> ?
[03:51] <mgalvin> mdke, still waiting... :-/
[03:52] <mgalvin> i haven't heard anything
[03:52] <mdke> henrik said he added it to the enormous list of things he needs elmo to do
[03:54] <mgalvin> ok, well i guess i'll just keep mail bombing the list for now ;)
[03:54] <mdke> mgalvin, its great work you're doing :)
[03:55] <mgalvin> at least they know about it, patience is a virtue
[03:55] <mdke> yeah i agree
[03:55] <mgalvin> thanks
[03:56] <mgalvin> i'll probably roll my changes into fewer emails, for example i'm gonna add some more menus soon, but i'll send them all in one email
[03:57] <mgalvin> where it makes sense anyway
[03:58] <mdke> perhaps even do em in one patch
[03:58] <mdke> i don't think that is necessarily bad, if you prefer it that way
[04:00] <mgalvin> i can do that too, where it makes sense to do so, jeffsch or froud had mentioned that its prefered having seperate patches in case something needs to be rolled back, its easier to track that way
[04:01] <mdke> yes that is true
[06:00] <rob^> hey froud 
[06:01] <froud> hi
[06:01] <rob^> maybe you can help me..
[06:01] <froud> i'll try
[06:01] <rob^> I'm getting this when trying to find and import my gpg key in Lauchpad: Key was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.
[06:01] <rob^> any ideas?
[06:01] <froud> hmmm, no
[06:02] <rob^> apparently I may need to be part of the "web trust"
[06:02] <froud> I know nothing about LP
[06:02] <rob^> ah ok thanks anyway ")
[06:13] <mdke> rob^, who has signed your key?
[06:13] <rob^> as is keyservers?
[06:13] <rob^> in^
[06:13] <mdke> rob^, erm...
[06:13] <mdke> ok here is how it works
[06:13] <mdke> launchpad imports your key from keyservers
[06:14] <mdke> you need to upload it to a keyserver for others to get it from the web
[06:14] <mdke> gpg --send-keys your_key_id
[06:14] <mdke> rob^, key signing is something different
[06:14] <rob^> yes, I have already uploaded it to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <mdke> good
[06:15] <mdke> rob^, when someone meets you and you confirm your identity and your key, they can sign it, showing that they trust it
[06:15] <rob^> ah ok, so I need it signed by someone in ubuntu's web of trust?
[06:15] <rob^> yeah
[06:16] <mdke> rob^, i don't know if you need to be in the web of trust to upload the key to launchpad
[06:16] <mdke> i don't think so, because I'm not, and I uploaded mine
[06:16] <rob^> the guys in #launchpad suggested I file a bug report
[06:17] <mdke> okay
[06:17] <mdke> they would know :)
[06:17] <rob^> yeah. figures I guess :)
[06:40] <mgalvin> rob^, ping
[06:47] <mdke> froud, ello?
[06:47] <mgalvin> rob^, did you file that launchpad bug, i could not find it, i also have had this same problem and would like to see it fixed, i can file it if you can't right now
[06:56] <judax> greets
[06:56] <mdke> hey judax 
[06:56] <mgalvin> hi judax
[06:56] <judax> hey guys
[07:17] <froud> mdke: hey
[07:18] <mdke> y0
[07:18] <froud> anyone know what installation methods will be supported for 5.10
[07:18] <mdke> froud, just calling to find out what the xpointer situation is
[07:18] <froud> fixed dude
[07:18] <mdke> cool
[07:18] <mdke> thanks
[07:18] <froud> try make ug
[07:19] <froud> anyone know what installation methods will be supported for 5.10?
[07:19] <mgalvin> i think all the current plus the quick install
[07:19] <froud> what about TFTP
[07:20] <froud> NFS
[07:20] <froud> SMB
[07:20] <mgalvin> i think those are all covered as a general Network Installtion type
[07:20] <froud> But are they supported?
[07:21] <mgalvin> we can double check the devs
[07:23] <froud> sure
[07:23] <mgalvin> i just asked on -devel
[07:23] <mgalvin> we'll see what they say
[07:26] <mgalvin> i am pretty sure kickstart will also be supported
[07:29] <mgalvin> froud
[07:29] <mgalvin> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html
[07:31] <mgalvin> the officially supported installation methods for breezy are the same as hoary
[07:38] <froud> k
[07:43] <mdke> what is the difference between those docs and ours?
[07:43] <froud> that manual is debian install guide ubuntusized
[07:44] <froud> one of the devs does it
[07:44] <mdke> by Kamion i guess?
[07:44] <froud> dunno
[07:44] <mdke> so what is the difference between that and our docs?
[07:45] <mdke> generally speaking
[07:45] <froud> that doc is totally comprehensive
[07:45] <froud> something a new user will be confused with
[07:46] <mdke> ok i see
[07:46] <mdke> but good reference i guess
[07:46] <froud> we mostly aim a bridging
[07:46] <froud> yes, many such resources
[08:42] <Seveas> anyone around?
[08:42] <froud> mmmHmmm
[08:42] <Seveas> wasn't manning the evil publisher that wouldn't play nice..?
[08:42] <froud> yes, why
[08:43] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/497
[08:43] <Seveas> check that one 
[08:43] <Seveas> your opinions on what to do..?
[08:44] <froud> go for it
[08:44] <froud> they want you to be a reviewer
[08:45] <Seveas> so no objections from the docteam are expected?
[08:45] <froud> no
[08:45] <Seveas> ok
[08:45] <froud> you can do what you like
[08:45] <Seveas> don't want to step on the feets of the docteam :0
[08:45] <Seveas> :)
[08:46] <froud> no a few of us had a beef with the way they were pitching people
[08:46] <froud> but that was resolved
[08:46] <Seveas> ok
[08:46] <Seveas> great
[08:59] <mgalvin> hmm, i missed that, it just says [Removed] 
[08:59] <mdke> me too
[08:59] <froud> Seveas has been asked to be a reviewer on a book
[08:59] <froud> cool
[09:00] <Seveas> yeah, I removed it again
[09:00] <Seveas> no point in having someones e-mail on a public site
[09:00] <mgalvin> understood
[09:00] <mgalvin> cool
[09:01] <Seveas> but that was the quickest way of showing it without flooding :)
[10:08] <Seveas> hmm
[10:08] <Seveas> an ubuntu booc written in Word
[10:08] <Seveas> odd :)
[10:09] <mdke> worse than odd...
[10:21] <mgalvin> which is the offending doc?
[10:24] <Seveas> the TOC manning sent me to review
[10:25] <Seveas> but I guess it's just a quick mockup of the plans
[10:25] <Seveas> and that's about what word is good for :)
[10:28] <froud> Seveas: you will probably find that the doc was written in OOo Writer and saved to MS Word so that the publisher, who does not use Linux, can open it.
[10:29] <froud> I often have to do the same thing with my clients
[10:29] <Seveas> ahh
[10:29] <Seveas> that explains
[10:33] <mdke> pah
[10:33] <mdke> pdf anyday
[10:34] <froud> Doesn't help if you want people to edit and make comments
[10:34] <froud> mdke: xpointers working for you?
[10:36] <froud> chaps kubuntu-docs-5.10-0.2_all.deb was uploaded today ... yay!!
[10:36] <mgalvin> woohoo
[10:36] <mdke> froud, yeah its working afaics, i was just opening it now to see if I could tidy things up
[10:37] <froud> cool
[10:44] <mgalvin> is anyone doing the ubuntu-docs packaging?
[10:44] <froud> you're welcome
[10:44] <mdke> not yet
[10:44] <mdke> mgalvin, you would be a good candidate :)
[10:44] <mgalvin> i'll do it
[10:44] <froud> btw I heard that elmo is at DebConf
[10:44] <froud> in fi
[10:44] <mdke> yes he is
[10:44] <mgalvin> ah
[10:45] <mgalvin> so he ran away from real work ;)
[10:45] <mdke> but that doesn't mean he doesn't get any work done :) he probably has more time than he did in the UK
[10:45] <froud> hehe
[10:45] <mgalvin> i know, just kidding
[10:48] <mgalvin> so i'll take a peak at the package stuff for ubuntu-doc, maybe we can get that stuff in soon too
[10:49] <mdke> no biggie
[10:49] <mdke> but cool if you wanna do it :)
[11:01] <mgalvin> gotta run
[11:01] <mgalvin> l8r all
[11:07] <froud> later dudes
[11:13] <mdke> damn