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Razor-Xfatfreepork: you can use pork ;) a CLI AIM client12:00
Maneitentiglionabbit: Did you catch the last question?12:00
heapifymanwhat's a MOTU?12:00
HappyFoolit's a he-man sidekick12:00
crimsunRazor-X: yeah, the schedule rotates to accomodate everyone12:00
tiglionabbitManeiten: no, there's too many questions and I can't really keep up, sorry12:00
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supernixAre the ubuntu packages the same as the kubuntu packages?12:00
crimsunheapifyman: we maintain the universe and multiverse packages. wiki/MOTU12:00
dizzieCenterICQ is a nice cosole multi im client too :P12:00
echyloquestion, when I change the color of panels in gnome, the apps on it like gnome menu won't change color, can I tweak that?12:00
Razor-Xcrimsun: then... I doubt i'll be able to attend the next meeting12:00
Razor-Xdizzie: I just use TNT meself12:00
claudiogzqhola12:00
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fatfreeporki got plastik theme in a .gz file, do i need to extract it first?12:00
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Maneitentiglionabbit: I see. Just wanted to know if you knew how to do what you mentioned12:00
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biovorefumbalah: you using the default mirror?>12:01
seth_kfumbalah: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all us. (so now it's just http://archive.ubuntu.com)12:01
claudiogzqpor la reconchetumareeeeeeee12:01
claudiogzqhijos de puta12:01
crimsunRazor-X: ok, try and make it to one12:01
claudiogzqson of a bith12:01
seth_kfatfreepork: plastik is for KDE, and it's installed by default12:01
claudiogzqbitch12:01
tiglionabbitManeiten: no, I don't, but an instance where someone did that is documented on the forums, let me find it12:01
defendguindoes ubuntu have oss installed or does it just have alsa?12:01
claudiogzqfuck you12:01
Razor-Xor open /etc/apt/sources.list in your favorite editor12:01
fatfreeporkahh crap12:01
dizzieRazor-X i use Gaim atm, its dodgy but it does the job nicely12:01
Maneitentiglionabbit: thanks :)12:01
claudiogzqfuck you all12:01
Razor-X(if you haven't changed $EDITOR and $VISUAL)12:01
crimsunclaudiogzq: cut the offensive language12:01
Razor-Xdizzie: TNT is amecs only12:01
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claudiogzqwhy?12:01
HappyFoolsomeone seems to be targeting #ubuntu. most annoying12:01
tiglionabbitManeiten: we're talking about installing an older .deb, right?12:01
biovorewhat is up with archive.us.ubuntu.org anyway.. we ever going to update the default to point to something that works.. ?12:01
Razor-Xclaudiogzq: your words scare me, that's why12:01
fatfreeporkIs there an OSX them for gnome?12:02
Razor-X*emacs12:02
HappyFoolbiovore: probably just a temporary glitch12:02
claudiogzqwhere are you from razor-x?12:02
seth_kfatfreepork: http://gnome-look.org12:02
dizzieRazor-X *srug* never seen it, and tbh i only use msn protocol12:02
HappyFoolbiovore: wait till after the w/e12:02
ompaulclaudiogzq, (A) it is not nice (B) you will be banned (C) you are showing yourself to be a mature person by being somewhere you don't seem to want to be12:02
Razor-XHappyFool: I don't call 4 months temporary12:02
crimsunclaudiogzq: you're obviously not following the Ubuntu Code of Conduct12:02
biovorewell it been a glitch for a few months now.. -_-12:02
Computer__Guruokay, ever since i installed gtk2-engines-qt, and set gtk styles & fonts to use my kde theme, gaim crashes (a lot).. anybody know why that would be12:02
jnchey gang, i'm runnning a 32-bit dchroot and there are issues with ATI 3d accel.   my breezy install is 64-bit native.   so far i have run into a number of issues and solved them.  i am now stuck wondering why SHM access is denied12:02
Razor-Xdizzie: you've never seen emacs?!?!12:02
heapifymanis there a way to let ubuntu automount zip-disks just like it does with cds or usb-sticks?12:02
jnca little help from someone who knows?12:02
HappyFoolRaptoid: hasn't it been working in between?12:02
claudiogzqjajaja12:02
HappyFoolerr12:02
dizzieahh emacs, lol yep12:02
HappyFoolRazor-X12:02
svu_arrgh, mplayer gives compile errors on g5 :(((12:02
danielstiglionabbit: it's 0800, dude, I'm split between IRC and getting breakfast12:02
claudiogzqsorry.....i dont speak or write english12:02
biovoresvu: #mplayer12:03
tiglionabbitdaniels: sorry.  We just had a lot of AOL spamming and stuff12:03
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claudiogzqy si hablo en espaol hijo de puta?12:03
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Crutonmancd /etc12:03
Crutonmandir12:03
Crutonmanmt12:03
seth_kmmm, thanks crimsun12:03
seth_kyou're my hero12:03
Razor-Xclaudiogzq: nos hablamos espanol12:03
echyloquestion, when I change the color of panels in gnome, the apps on it like gnome menu won't change color, can I tweak that?12:03
fumbalahseth_k: thanks12:03
svu_biovore, is it well known problem?12:03
Maneitentiglionabbit: We're talking about installing the libc6-version from the ubuntu resp. over a manually installed .deb file from the debian resp.12:03
Razor-X#ubuntu-es habla espanol12:03
Razor-Xand that's the best I can do ;)12:03
HappyFooli don't think he really cares12:04
dizzieRazor-X emacs hates me, i stick to vi and nano :P12:04
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Maneitentiglionabbit: Using Debians libc6 version on a ubuntu system obviousley isn't a good idea12:04
Razor-Xdizzie: vi is ok, but nano?!12:04
Razor-Xhow can emacs hate you?12:04
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jnchey all, i just found a forum post with the fix12:04
jncthanks anyways12:04
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dizzieRazor-X Human error 40 i think :)12:04
tiglionabbitManeiten: okay, I found the forum post.  In it, they fix kubuntu-desktop by saying sudo apt-get install konversation=0.16-1ubuntu1 .  Find the version that you want to install, and um, force it over using the = sign perhaps..   I don't really know a lot about this though12:04
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ameobaRazor-X: your spanish is better than mine - "Donde esta mi pantalones" is all I can muster12:04
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biovoreas some wize unix guy once said..  "Hey let someone else have some CPU cycles, stop using EMACS"  :-)12:04
Razor-Xdizzie: ;)12:05
Razor-Xameoba: ;)12:05
dizzieRazor-X :)12:05
Razor-Xwell, occasionally my Spanish devolves into French12:05
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Maneitentiglionabbit: thanks, i'll try12:05
concept10jasoncohen, you still around12:05
medgnohelp, is there any way to see what programs are sending data over the network?12:05
jasoncohenconcept10, yeah, hey12:05
ompaulbiovore, guess it was not RMS then12:05
biovorenetstat -nal12:05
crimsunmedgno: try ntop12:05
Razor-Xbiovore: give someone in poverty some clothes -- stop wearing your own ;)12:05
dizzieRazor-X Worst editor? ... I say pico :)12:05
fatfreeporkwhen i go to click the download of Rpanther, it takes me to the guy's homepage12:05
biovorerofl12:05
jasoncohentiglionabbit, that was my forum post..the problem has been fixed. Mez told me he fixed it12:05
Razor-Xdizzie: fromwhence nano was based on? ;)12:05
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Razor-X*from whence12:06
gizmo82hi12:06
concept10jasoncohen, are you good with solving dependencies?12:06
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: Maneiten is trying to fix up after installing a libc6 .deb12:06
Maneitentiglionabbit: Thanks! ;)12:06
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: ewwww!!! a libc6 deb12:06
Razor-Xthat's nasty stuff12:06
tiglionabbitManeiten: did it work?12:06
jasoncohentiglionabbit, i thought you were referring to the konversation 0.18 problem with kdelibs4 3.4.112:06
dizzieRazor-X i stick to vi, or quanta :P12:06
aarcanehow does one use the RPM command to install an rpm file in ubuntu ?12:06
Razor-Xdizzie: never heard of the latter12:06
jasoncohenconcept10, pretty good- i've been spending a lot of time looking for dependency problems on backport packages12:06
gizmo82i have problems with install anjuta on ubuntu12:06
Razor-Xis it CLI based?12:06
dizzieRazor-X i stick to vi, or quanta :P12:06
biovoreaarcane get alien12:06
gizmo82can any one help me ?12:06
jasoncohenconcept10, in the last 2 days i found 3 dependency problems on mozilla, mozilla-firefox and konversation in backports which all have been fixed12:07
dizzieRazor-X no its a KDE app, imo prette decent editor12:07
concept10jasoncohen, do you have a laptop?12:07
tiglionabbit!anjuta12:07
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit12:07
tiglionabbit!info anjuta12:07
jasoncohenconcept10, yes12:07
ubotuanjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-6ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 2048 kB12:07
aarcanebiovore, I already have rpm, I can't get sudo rpm --install=path/to.rpm to work12:07
jasoncohenconcept10, my ubuntu install is on a dell inspiron 820012:07
Razor-Xdizzie: the only KDE editor I use is Kate12:07
Razor-Xnice stuff, that is12:07
jasoncohentiglionabbit, can he just force the hoary libc6 version?12:07
Razor-Xstill, nothing can beat the C-x C-c power ;)12:07
biovorealien is the rpm->deb converter tool for debian/ubuntu12:08
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ManeitenIs java broken?12:08
jasoncohentiglionabbit, what version did he install?12:08
dizzieRazor-X i love syntax highlighting :)12:08
HappyFoolaarcane: i think you'll want to use alien12:08
Razor-Xdizzie: same here12:08
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concept10jasoncohen, do you have any knowledge of this: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/12:08
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: I was telling him how to do that, but I don't really know.  Could you instruct him?12:08
gizmo82is any one from germany here ?12:08
heapifymanja12:08
gizmo82hi12:08
jasoncohenconcept10, i also ran sid before so i have some experience doing that. i had to go from KDE 3.4.0 to 3.3.2 on sid12:08
concept10hallo12:08
Razor-Xja ja ja....12:08
tiglionabbitManeiten: you should be able to get java from hoary-extras12:08
Razor-X(that's Hindi ;)12:08
jasoncohentiglionabbit, i can12:08
gizmo82kannst Du mir mit anjuta helfen ?12:08
jasoncohentiglionabbit, is he still here?12:09
Razor-Xgizmo82: keep the German in a PM12:09
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: yes, he's Maneiten12:09
jasoncohenManeiten, hey, so the problem is that you installed another libc6 version12:09
Maneitenjasoncohen: I fixed it :)12:09
jasoncohenManeiten, so, you just forced the hoary version? good12:09
tiglionabbito good, I guess my help did help after all12:09
HappyFoolg'night12:09
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jasoncohenconcept10, yes, i installed it on sid12:09
tatiana`Razor-X why keep german to pm??? that sounds kinda rude12:10
Razor-Xone of these days... when I have some time to myself... like the last week of summer... i'm gonna LFS ;)12:10
heapifymangizmo82: n, aber in #ubuntu-de bestimmt jemand12:10
Razor-Xtatiana`: same thing with all non-English languages12:10
ManeitenjasoncohenIf hoary is the ubuntu version; yes.12:10
tiglionabbittatiana`: because many of us can't understand it..  and we were sort of talking about ubuntu support here12:10
dizzieRazor-X Good luck! (You need it!)12:10
Razor-Xthere's a reason why non-English Ubuntu channels exist12:10
mdrrrr12:10
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tatiana`shrugs still seems rude but ok.12:10
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jasoncohenManeiten, why did you upgrade your libc6 version?12:10
concept10jasoncohen, everyone says that they are working on it for breezy, what did you do to install it? alien? or compile?12:11
tiglionabbitcrimsun: could you block that IP?12:11
Razor-Xtatiana`: very common netiquette, actually12:11
Maneitenjasoncohen: I don't really use ubuntu. I'm a Debian user, so I don't relly know the terms etc. Just fixing up for a friend of mine. ;)12:11
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jasoncohenconcept10, there was a source for sid12:11
Razor-Xyou don't want someone bleating in all different languages in the middle of a channel where people are helping12:11
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jasoncohenconcept10, let me find it- one sec12:11
crimsunmdrrrr: please use the pastebin in the topic for floods12:11
tatiana`never heard of it tbh but i understand.12:11
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Razor-Xgets real annoying - real fast12:11
fatfreeporkI downloaded the theme Rpanther, do i need to extract the tar.gz?12:11
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: no12:11
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tiglionabbitfatfreepork: feed that to the theme installer12:11
fatfreeporki did and nothign happened12:11
skullhi all12:11
concept10fatfreepork, just drag the tar.gz into the theme window12:11
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fatfreeporkoh12:11
fatfreeporkokay12:12
Maneitenjasoncohen: he downloaded and installed a .deb from the Debian resp. because Java (Blackdown) depends on >= 2.3.2.ds1-21, and ubuntu uses  2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1312:12
Razor-Xoh, so was mbrrrr actually pasting something?12:12
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jasoncohenconcept10, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2004-October/msg00008.html12:12
tiglionabbitcould someone ban mdrrrr?12:12
Razor-Xbecause my encoding picked up nothing, so I ignored him on the spot12:12
skulli'm having a problem, sometimes my screen moves stronge12:12
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gizmo82wie kann man mit synaptic pakete installieren die man selbst herunter geladen hat ?12:12
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mdrrrrcrimsun12:12
mdrrrrMDR12:12
jasoncohenManeiten, ah, you could have just used java-package or used hoary-extras12:12
mdrrrrCONNAR12:12
mdrrrrBAN12:12
Razor-Xskull: your GNU Screen ?12:12
mdrrrrMOI12:12
skulldoes anyone know what is the pro12:12
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mdrrrr!w crimsun12:12
ubotumdrrrr: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:12
skullyes12:12
mdrrrrsec12:12
mdrrrrmdr12:12
aarcanesudo apt-get install package.deb where there's a file package.deb in the current dir is not working..  how do I make it work ?12:12
mdrrrr!w ubotu12:12
ubotumdrrrr: I don't know12:12
jasoncohenconcept10, thom's site doesn't appear to work any longer though12:13
mdrrrrparle francais12:13
mdrrrrconnard12:13
Maneitenjasoncohen: indeed, I fixed the libc6 stuff. But how do I use hoary-extras?12:13
mdrrrr:s12:13
Razor-Xhow does it move strong?12:13
ChOuPi`:x12:13
tiglionabbitmdrrrr: please go to #ubuntu-fr12:13
skulllike shaking12:13
mdrrrrtiglionabbit jsui ban12:13
mdrrrrimbecile12:13
jasoncohenManeiten, read my guide for adding repositories- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:13
mdrrrr00:13:37]  *** [Erreur]  Impossible de rejoindre le salon, tu es banni.12:13
Razor-Xscreen is pretty easy to pick up (C-x == Control+X) C-a 0 = 1st terminal, C-a 1 = second terminal12:13
crimsunmdrrrr: do you have anything productive to say?12:13
Razor-Xyou mean your monitor scren?12:13
seth_kmdrrrr: il faut joindre #ubuntu-fr12:13
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concept10jasoncohen, yeah, I see that but thanks for the link12:13
mdrrrrJSUI BANNIT12:13
jasoncohenconcept10, np12:13
ChOuPi`-t12:14
ChOuPi`:x12:14
jasoncohenconcept10, it really didn't work at all on sid12:14
skullyes12:14
mdrrrrmdr ChOuPi`12:14
mdrrrrtkt je maitrise12:14
tiglionabbitthis makes me very sad.  Where are our admins?12:14
jasoncohenconcept10, even after i satisfied all the dependencies12:14
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ChOuPi`a svoit...12:14
ChOuPi`mdr12:14
concept10jasoncohen, ok12:14
biovoreadmins, what are they.. lol12:14
jasoncohenconcept10, it requires some major changes to install & work...i think we're going to have to wait for breezy on this one12:14
biovorecrimsun is around12:14
ChOuPi`han ita mis en mode +cul mdrrrr12:14
Razor-XI have, insofar, 24547 lines in the IRC bufer12:14
Razor-Xgood job ;)12:14
concept10jasoncohen, okay, I was just wondering how far someone has gotten with it12:14
jasoncohenconcept10, for some reason, even after satisfying dependencies it still didn't work. it seemed to start but didn't bring up the GUI manager12:15
ChOuPi`loool12:15
ChOuPi`jsuis plie12:15
ChOuPi`^^12:15
Razor-X*buffer12:15
jasoncohenconcept10, it'll be installed by default in breezy, right?12:15
tiglionabbitcrimsun, daniels, wake up and ban people who are spouting nonsense, please12:15
Razor-Xjasoncohen: what thing?12:15
crimsuntiglionabbit: we warn first12:15
aarcanesudo apt-get install package.deb is not working when package.deb is in the current dir...  how do I make it work ?12:15
fatfreeporkwhy isn't the damn theme working?12:15
tiglionabbitcrimsun: they have been spamming for the last 10 minutes, it's about time to ban them12:15
jasoncohenRazor-X, NetworkManager12:15
naliothchannel users, i'm afraid you'll have to use the /ignore for your purposes12:15
fatfreeporki drag it in, it seems like it installs but its not on the list12:16
Razor-Xaarcane: dpkg -i package.deb12:16
biovoreaarcan use dpkg -i12:16
biovorelol12:16
crimsuntiglionabbit: thanks, we'll take that into account12:16
echylowhy are there so much trouble makers lately12:16
concept10jasoncohen, thats what I heard12:16
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aarcanethank you :)12:16
Razor-Xechylo: because Windows users feel belittled by our experience, I'm guessing12:16
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seth_kechylo: as anything grows in popularity, we will get more idiots12:16
echylohmm12:16
Razor-Xthis one guy spammed "Linux is retarted. Use Windows" in the channel12:16
crimsunechylo: popular distros always attract strange detractors12:16
echylowar of the arrogance then I guess12:16
biovoreseth_k agreed12:16
fatfreeporkTheme won't work!12:16
echylowell12:16
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fatfreeporkDragged it int o install, but it's not on the list12:16
echyloI love ignore12:16
tiglionabbitlol, retarted12:17
jasoncohenManeiten, after you follow my guide you can do sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.512:17
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echyloI love the guys with green dots or @ beside their names12:17
seth_kechylo: because the percentage of idiots remains fixed, a larger total population means more idiots :D12:17
Razor-Xechylo: ........ they're called ops man12:17
echyloleel seth_k :D12:17
echyloRazor-X, I know ;)12:17
jasoncohenManeiten, visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers for more info12:17
echylojust trying to be creative12:17
Razor-Xok ok then ;)12:17
Razor-Xhehe12:17
echylothe yellow are voices12:17
echylothe blue half ops12:17
echylo;)12:17
aarcanedamnit, where do I get libhal.so.1 and libdbus-glib-1.so.1 ?12:17
ChOuPi`:'(12:17
echyloin xchat12:17
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tiglionabbit!info libhal.so.112:17
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echyloto be specific12:18
echylonalioth, drop the ctcp12:18
mourily need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"12:18
fatfreeporkTheme won't install12:18
tiglionabbit!info libhal012:18
ubotulibhal0: (Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.7-1ubuntu15 (hoary), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 168 kB12:18
jasoncohenaarcane, search on packages.ubuntu.com or sudo apt-get install apt file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search name12:18
echyloanyway12:18
echylogtg12:18
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naliothechylo: huh?12:18
seth_kbye echylo12:18
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echylonalioth, you did a ctcp version12:18
echylo:)12:18
Aerebusan someone help me with make install of wine 200506 ? i'll need to paste into #flood i dont know if this is an error or what but i just wanna make sure12:18
echyloAerebus, www.pastebin.com12:19
naliothechylo: yes i wanted to see how you were seeing colors12:19
|stefan|postfix/postfix-tls . the default install of ubuntu. does it require username/password or is it open relay ?12:19
echylonalioth, oh :) using xchat12:19
echylosorry12:19
echylono offense :)12:19
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Slack006Everything was working fine, and then I installed Real Player... Now I can't get any resolutions besides 640x480 to work. Anyone else see this?12:19
Aerebusechylo, http://pastebin.com/31086912:19
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ManeitenHow do I configure the locale-settings?12:20
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eruinsudo dpkg-reconfigure locales12:20
tiglionabbitSlack006: damn..  good thing I avoided realplayer (xine and mplayer can play those formats).  I think you should take a loot at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure your other resulotions are listed after "Modes"12:20
fatfreepork how do i install a theme?12:20
fatfreeporki dragged it in12:20
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: the way we told you.  Drag it into the themes window..12:20
Maneiten"perl: warning: Setting locale failed.12:20
fatfreeporkand it seems to install12:20
fatfreeporkbut its not on the list12:20
eruinfatfreepork, drop it in your /home/user/.themes folder12:20
MrMaDSeNwhat do I need for Gui mplayer?12:20
naliothAerebus: what are you trying to do with wine?12:20
eruinand/or restart the theme app12:21
Aerebusemulate certain windows apps12:21
Slack006Shoot... Lost the window. Who was it that just PMed me? :( Sorry.12:21
tiglionabbitMrMaDSeN: it installs with any mplayer build12:21
tiglionabbit!info mplayer-38612:21
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB12:21
tiglionabbit!info mplayer-58612:21
eruinfatfreepork, it might not be a full metatheme, in which case youll have to make a custom theme12:21
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB12:21
naliothAerebus: no duh! are you trying to install wine? or run an app?12:21
crimsunManeiten: try prepending "LANG=C LC_ALL=C" to quiet those messages12:21
heulSuSEHello! Any idea? I can't load my soundblaster live! After a "modprobe snd-emu10k1" a "cat /proc/asound/cards" don't show the soundblaster.12:21
crimsunheulSuSE: which sblive is it?12:22
fatfreeporkim using Rpanther12:22
fatfreeporkfrom gnome-loog.org12:22
fatfreeporklook*12:22
Aerebushttp://pastebin.com/310869 that was the end of 'make install' complie from the 200506 source, is that an error or something that would affect wines usage?12:22
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: select a theme and do Theme Details, then look for it in one of those three tabs12:22
jasoncohenbackports really needs to add source and contents information. apt-file fails to update with backports enabled12:22
eruinfatfreepork, try editing your current theme details12:22
jasoncohenthey don't even have changelogs12:22
eruinand see if the Rpanther stuff shows up anywhere12:22
mouril y need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"12:22
Maneitencrimsun: prepending?12:22
naliothAerebus: yes, the error is there12:23
naliothAerebus: you need to install wine-libs12:23
heulSuSEcrimsun: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS12:23
Kyralmouril, what is the boot file system type?12:23
tiglionabbit!info apt-file12:23
ubotuapt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB12:23
crimsunManeiten: put it before the command12:23
mourilwindows xp12:23
crimsunheulSuSE: that uses the snd_ca0106 driver in alsa-source from universe12:23
Kyralwhy would someone use apt-file when you have apt-cache?12:23
Panzerboywhat is apt-file?12:23
Kyralmouril, I believe that it should have worked....12:23
Maneitencrimsun: I did it, and the system shut up. But what did I acctually do now?12:23
crimsunheulSuSE: the snd_emu10k1 driver does not support it. It's a different chipset.12:24
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KyralUbuntu is good that that...12:24
jasoncohenPanzerboy, apt-file allows you to search for a package based on a file it contains12:24
Aerebusnalioth how can i find out what libs i need?12:24
crimsunManeiten: perl was simply warning you about using a different locale12:24
jasoncohenKyral, how do you find a package based on its contents in apt-cache?12:24
Panzerboyoh, cool12:24
heulSuSEcrimsun: Oh, thank you! I have to load this driver via apt?12:24
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Panzerboyjasoncohen: even if it's not installed?12:24
jasoncohenPanzerboy, sudo apt-get apt-file ; apt-file update12:24
naliothAerebus: just apt-get install wine-libs12:24
jasoncohenPanzerboy, yes12:24
jasoncohenespecially if it's not installed, lol12:24
KyralI search for "a general term that I know will be in the desc :P12:24
Panzerboyjasoncohen: cool, thanks :)12:24
Maneitencrimsun: Now I get: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed12:24
jasoncohenthe whole idea really is to satisfy dependencies when you can't compile something12:25
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crimsunheulSuSE: search the Ubuntu wiki for instructions on downloading, compiling, and installing alsa-source12:25
mourili enter in ubuntu but in windows no12:25
seth_kcrimsun: is op protocol on the channels to mute instead of kickban, or is that just your personal preference? (so that I act accordingly in #kubuntu)12:25
Panzerboyi've been looking for such an utility for sometime now :)12:25
jasoncohenapt-file search file and then you install that package12:25
Ang3lFir3I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?12:25
Aerebusnalioth i dont think that will work12:25
Panzerboyperfect !12:25
Aerebusmaybe a different name or something12:25
jasoncohenPanzerboy, it downloads a compressed package with a list of all the files and the packages they're in from ubuntu12:25
jasoncohenit's about 9 MB12:25
crimsunseth_k: we muzzle before banning, but it's essentially driven by the aggravation.12:25
naliothseth_k: mute (warn) first, k/b if behaviour continures12:25
jasoncohenPanzerboy, try it- apt-file search libhal.so.012:25
naliothAerebus: why not?12:25
MasterYetiis ubuntu preloaded with meadia codecs, because none of my media files will play?12:25
heulSuSEcrimsun: Thanks! So I know what I have looking for.12:26
seth_kright, thanks12:26
AerebusE: Couldn't find package wine-libs12:26
nalioths_dogMasterYeti: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:26
crimsunheulSuSE: np.12:26
MasterYetithanks12:26
tiglionabbit!info libwine12:26
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naliothAerebus: open synaptic and search for 'wine'12:26
ubotulibwine: (Windows Emulator (Library)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 11232 kB, Installed size: 39688 kB12:26
Panzerboyjasoncohen: it's installing right now12:26
Aerebusnalioth, i'm compiling 200506 and that stuff in synaptic is 200505 does that matter?12:27
naliothAerebus: try the easy way (apt) first12:27
jasoncohenKyral, i dont' think apt-cache can do what apt-file does. tell me how12:27
fatfreeporkgot my theme installed, thanks12:27
naliothAerebus: then we can get on to the harder road12:27
jasoncohenKyral, i just checked the man page- there's nothing about finding a package based on a file it contains12:27
tiglionabbitI think by now the most common question asked here is-- Q:"Why can't apt find <packagename>!?"  A:"Because it's not called that"12:27
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Kyraljasoncohen, I didn't say that :D12:27
fatfreeporkdoes ubuntu come with php or mysql?12:27
jasoncohenKyral, apt-cache search will only look through filenames & descriptions.12:27
tiglionabbitfatfreepork: no, but you can install them12:28
jasoncohenKyral, well...you said there's no point to apt-file12:28
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Dormi|OFFnas12:28
Kyralyah, and most of the time for me, it finds that I need :D12:28
Kyralfor me :D Linux is all about choices12:28
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jasoncohenKyral, when you're compiling a package and it neads libblah.so.1 and you don't know what package contains that file, you'll need apt-file12:28
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Aerebusnalioth, i'm confused, the easy way? (apt)? do you mean 'apt-get install wine-libs' ? i just did that and its not there12:28
fatfreeporkdoes apt-get work with php and mysql?12:28
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jasoncohenKyral, you don't compile i bet12:28
bungopolisI'm getting a "don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3" error when trying to play a DVD :: what package should I install to remedy this?12:28
MrMaDSeNhmmf.. I cant get mplayer to start anything12:28
crimsunfatfreepork: if you mean "can I install mysql with php support?" then yes12:28
tiglionabbitAerebus: apt-cache search wine12:28
Kyraljasoncohen, nope. This is why I love Apt :D12:28
dapimp53ok I got my wireless working now12:28
nalioths_dogbungopolis: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:29
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: you have to enable esd as ao12:29
dapimp53now I just need to get my touchpad to work... any ideas?12:29
jasoncohenKyral, heh, yeah- but sometimes you might want to compile12:29
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: had the same problem yesterday ... if it's the same problem :)12:29
jasoncohenKyral, do you know about apt-get build-dep?12:29
Ang3lFir3I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?12:29
jasoncohenKyral, it downloads build dependencies automatically for you12:29
naliothAerebus: no i later recommended you use synaptic to search for 'wine'12:29
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: what did ya do then?12:29
Kyraljasoncohen, next time I crash my system I'm gonna do it that way :P12:29
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: go to /etc/mplayer12:29
KyralI mean, KILL my system :P12:30
Panzerboyand sudo gedit mplayer.conf12:30
crimsunAng3lFir3: have you definitely ruled out your router/modem?12:30
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bungopolisthanks nalioths_dog -- I"ve installed the DVD packages (libdvdcss2 and mpeg decoders), but I can't find a package that will give me ac3 support12:30
Aerebusnalioth i see libwine-xnamehere, xnamehere = alsa, arts, capi, cil, and more12:30
dapimp53I have a Toshiba Satellite Laptop and I cannot seem to get the touchpad to work12:30
Panzerboythere put ao=esd instead of alsa12:30
Ang3lFir3crimsun not sure how to specificly do that but my other systems are using the same router/modem12:30
tiglionabbit!multimedia12:30
ubotuI haven't a clue, tiglionabbit12:30
Panzerboy!synaptic12:30
ubotufrom memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto12:30
tiglionabbitubotu multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia12:30
ubotutiglionabbit: okay12:30
Panzerboydapimp53: see synaptic12:31
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jasoncohentiglionabbit, can you add a link for !multimedia to my multimedia page?12:31
jasoncohenany ops around?12:31
naliothAerebus: i run a PPC and can't use wine at all, so find and install libwine or winelibs or whatever12:31
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: can I what?12:31
Panzerboyjasoncohen: what is your multimedia page?12:31
tiglionabbit!multimedia12:31
ubotuwell, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia12:31
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: I just did man12:31
jasoncohentiglionabbit, thanks, awesome12:31
dapimp53Panzerboy: I did that and all my packages are currently up to date and it still doesnt work12:32
crimsunjasoncohen: anyone can modify info on the bot12:32
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: right before you asked me to =P12:32
jasoncohencrimsun, how?12:32
fatfreeporkive downloaded and extracted php. how do i install it?12:32
tiglionabbitubotu pizza is delicious12:32
ubotuokay, tiglionabbit12:32
tiglionabbit!pizza12:32
ubotuI heard pizza is delicious12:32
aarcanedamn, can't compile from source, for I haven't the headers, can't install the rpm even with alien, for it's linked against archaic sos, and I can't uninstall it now, because I have NFI how u,.,u12:32
tiglionabbitubotu forget pizza12:32
ubotutiglionabbit: i forgot pizza12:32
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tiglionabbitjasoncohen: that's how12:32
fatfreeporkhow do i install php?12:32
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naliothfatfreepork: backports.ubuntu.com12:32
fatfreeporkive downloaded and extracted it12:32
jasoncohenubotu multimediarepositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:32
ubotujasoncohen: okay12:32
jasoncohen!multimediarepositories12:33
ubotuit has been said that multimediarepositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:33
naliothfatfreepork: your goin in the wrong direction12:33
tiglionabbitamittp_: you must get packages that end in -dev to compile from source12:33
fatfreeporkoh12:33
yuachttiglionabbit, sudo apt-get install php412:33
yuachtsorry12:33
jasoncohenubotu forget multimediarepositories12:33
ubotui forgot multimediarepositories, jasoncohen12:33
yuachtnot uou tiglionabbit12:33
naliothfatfreepork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary12:33
Turricanich komme nich mit anjuta klar12:33
Turricanhilfe12:33
jasoncohenubotu multimedia repositories is  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:33
ubotuokay, jasoncohen12:33
Ang3lFir3crimsun: how would i definitely rule out my router/modem?12:33
yuachtfatfreepork, try sudo apt-get install php412:33
fatfreeporkim not on hoary12:33
jasoncohen!multimedia repositories12:33
ubotuhmm... multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:33
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jasoncohencool12:33
fatfreeporkand i want php 512:34
naliothfatfreepork: you need other repos than (probably) what you have12:34
Panzerboyubotu iz da man ! :P12:34
ubotuPanzerboy: I don't know, could you explain it?12:34
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sdepperthey does anyone know how to install drivers for an ati graphics card?12:34
jasoncohenPanzerboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:34
naliothfatfreepork: php5 is out of the realm of this channel12:34
jasoncohensdeppert, one sec12:34
fatfreeporkokay12:34
tiglionabbit!nvidia12:34
ubotuI heard nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:34
tiglionabbitI believe that covers it too12:34
harris|uIs it possible to play .wmv files?12:34
sdeppertthanks12:34
crimsunfatfreepork: search google; I believe a Debian developer is providing unofficial php5 packages12:35
MrMaDSeNdamn that mplayer12:35
tiglionabbitharris|u: yes, get w32codecs from hoary-extras12:35
fatfreeporkokay12:35
tiglionabbit!extras12:35
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know12:35
Turricangibts ein wiki fr anjuta unter ubuntu ?12:35
tiglionabbit!backports12:35
ubotubackports is, like, at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:35
tiglionabbitum12:35
eruinhmm, I use marillat for that12:35
jasoncohenubotu ati is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:35
ubotu...but ati is already something else...12:35
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jasoncohen!ati12:35
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:35
harris|uthanks tiglionabbit12:35
jasoncohenheh12:35
tiglionabbiteruin: probably better to use hoary extras12:35
fatfreeporki tried apt-get install php412:35
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: still doesn't work ?12:35
tiglionabbitharris|u: uh, you should look at jasoncohen's page,12:35
jasoncoheneruin, hoary-extras is safer than marillat12:35
fatfreeporkcouldn't find package php412:35
tiglionabbit!multimedia repostiories12:35
andrew__How do you install the java runtime environment?12:35
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit12:35
tiglionabbitandrew__: from hoary extras12:36
tiglionabbit!newusers12:36
uboturumour has it, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers12:36
jasoncohen!multimedia repositories12:36
ubotuit has been said that multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:36
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: no gui12:36
nalioths_dogandrew__: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 12:36
aarcanehow do I uninstall something I just installed with dpkg -i ?12:36
crimsundpkg -P12:36
sdepperthmm doesnt work lol12:36
jasoncohenharris|u, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:36
eruinjasoncohen, marillat repo has deserved my trust after my debian days ;)12:36
harris|ujasoncohen, already done ;o12:36
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jasoncoheneruin, yes- marillat is great on debian- not on ubuntu12:36
jasoncoheneruin, dependencies are not meant to be satisfied on ubuntu12:36
Turricanwhere can i get a new package list for synapse12:37
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: so you are saying that the gui of mplayer doesn't start ?12:37
tiglionabbitnalioth: isn't it um, easier to just grab the java runtime from hoary extras?12:37
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: or ?12:37
Ang3lFir3im getting the impression that i may end up installing 2k as documentation for networking issues in ubuntu seems to be extremely lacking12:37
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crimsuneruin: we have to be careful with debian-marillat, because often the dependencies fail to be satisfied on the stable Ubuntu releases.12:37
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: yes12:37
ManeitenWhat is the name of the package with X.org's headers/includes?12:37
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, what's the problem?12:37
crimsunManeiten: xlibs-dev, usually12:37
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?12:37
timmy_the_testichey guys can any1 help me out?? just upgraded to breezy badger and got this error msg :- perl: warning: Setting locale failed.12:37
timmy_the_testicperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:12:37
timmy_the_testic        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en",12:37
timmy_the_testic        LC_ALL = (unset),12:37
timmy_the_testic        LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"12:37
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: try this: mplayer -vo xv movie_file12:38
Panzerboyand tell me what happens12:38
Panzerboy!flood12:38
ubotufrom memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.12:38
jasoncohentimmy_the_testic, use pastebin or #flood12:38
crimsuntimmy_the_testic: prepend "LANG=C LC_ALL=C"12:38
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, did you try google?12:38
Panzerboytimmy_the_testic: see what ubotu said12:38
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aarcaneheeelp, I just installed a package using dpkg -i package.deb, and now i can't uninstall it in any way, shape, or form as I don't have the foggiest clue how u,.,u12:38
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Ang3lFir3jasoncohen ohhh yes12:38
crimsunaarcane: see what I said about dpkg -P12:38
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen i been googling this issue for several hours12:38
aarcanecrimsun, dpkg -P package.deb doesn't work u,.,u12:39
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, just found this http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic20882.html12:39
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crimsunaarcane: drop the '.deb'12:39
timmy_the_testici know i have just been told, bit new 2 this irc lark sorry:P12:39
tiglionabbitaarcane: you have to use the name of the package it said it selected, not the filename12:39
jasoncohenbut then you have the correct module loaded, right?12:39
light_punch2why is ubuntu so popular amongst *nix?12:39
crimsunlight_punch2: have you tried it?12:39
tiglionabbitaarcane: dpkg --info the package to find out what its real name is.  It'll say "Package:" and then the name12:39
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light_punch2crimsun, nope12:39
aarcanealright, I got it now :)12:40
Fish-FaceIs there a designated backports channel?12:40
sdeppertnow I have to see if tuxracer works12:40
fatfreeporkis there LAMP for hoary?12:40
tiglionabbitlight_punch2: because it's uh, pretty easy to use in comparison to most12:40
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crimsunlight_punch2: I think the best answer is provided when you try it.12:40
Panzerboylight_punch2: have you tried any linux distro?12:40
seth_kFish-Face: there is not. Want something backported?12:40
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jasoncohenlight_punch2, because it's easy to install and use, has a large and nice community willing to help users, with good documentatoin and a huge base of packages thinks to debian12:40
eruincrimsun, yeah, hoary-extras isnt quite suitable for breezy though ;)12:40
Fish-Faceseth_k, know, otherwise I'd be on't forum :)12:40
Fish-Faces/know/no12:40
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen there suggestion is to install freebsd :p12:40
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LujeCan anyone here please help me with my Wireless Internet dilemmas?12:40
crimsuneruin: I certainly hope the distro mismatch ensures that ;)12:40
jasoncohenlight_punch2, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers for some new user info12:40
Turricanany germans here ?12:40
Panzerboyfatfreepork: check out xampp12:40
concept10fatfreepork, yes - lamp is for all unix OS12:41
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen and i do have the correct module and driver and its the only pci card in system12:41
Panzerboyfatfreepork: i guess it must work on hoary too12:41
timmy_the_testiccrimsun:what did u mean by  prepend "LANG=C LC_ALL=C" ?12:41
Fish-FaceBasically, it appears something's up with a backport, and I'd like to see if anyone else has had it12:41
fatfreeporkokay12:41
aarcaneLuje, what kinda dillemas ?12:41
crimsuntimmy_the_testic: put it at the beginning of the command12:41
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, a) are you sure it's the nic and not the network, b) do you have rtl8139 loaded?12:41
[koji] Turrican: try ubuntu-de12:41
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LujeI am running Hoary and I have two different PCI cards (Netgear and Linksys)  I'm trying to install the drivers with ndiswrapper, but they say "invalid driver!" when I do ndiswrapper -l12:41
light_punch2Panzerboy, i am on slackware 10.112:41
Panzerboyubotu new users is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers12:41
ubotuokay, Panzerboy12:41
Fish-Facehmm... probly best to ask on the forums anyway.12:42
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, do you use DHCP? did it get an IP from the gateway? is this is the only machine with problems?12:42
Panzerboy!new users12:42
ubotumethinks new users is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers12:42
Hackhey there, where can i set the locale of my box?12:42
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen a) no ....but i am using the network now on 2k b) yes its loaded and shows in the device manager12:42
Panzerboykewl12:42
Hackor rather change it12:42
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crimsunLuje: you probably don't need ndiswrapper at all for PCI cards12:42
dapimp53Panzerboy: any idea?12:42
MrMaDSeNIt seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.12:42
MrMaDSeNRun 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/devices.html#xv!12:42
MrMaDSeNSee 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x1112:42
MrMaDSeNError opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.12:42
Panzerboydapimp53: no, srooy12:42
MrMaDSeNmight be the problem then12:42
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen yes dhcp yes it has an ip and yes its the only machine with problems12:42
LujeCrimsun-- how can I get linux to recognize my PCI cards then?12:42
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: no xv ? hmmm12:42
Hackanyone?12:42
Aerebusnalioth apt-get install libwine did the trick :) is there a way to make a .deb file from the sources i just built?12:42
concept10crimsun, how can that be true? thats a broad statement12:42
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: try with -vo x1112:42
Lujewhen I go to system | networking I don't see anything but eth0 and the modem for dialup12:42
dapimp53Does anyone know how to fix a touchpad mouse on a Toshiba Satelite Laptop?12:42
timmy_the_testiccrimsun:its says bash: prepend: command not found12:43
crimsunLuje: what models are they? (paste the lspci -v info onto the pastebin in the topic)12:43
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, did you try with a static IP or another nic?12:43
Hackdapimp53: with a hammer?12:43
crimsuntimmy_the_testic: prepend means to add to the beginning12:43
Go_pLasticanyone know where i can get codecs, to play my .avi and .mpg files?12:43
Lujecrimsun, I don't know what the pastebin is :(12:43
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, is this the only linux distro you've used?12:43
dapimp53LOL I would like for it to work12:43
crimsunLuje: /topic12:43
harris|u!backports12:43
uboturumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:43
Panzerboyjasoncohen: maybe the driver is f***ed up12:43
Lujeall right, one second12:43
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen another nic is my next step but i need to know if ubuntu will recognize it or will i need to find and load the drivers12:43
timmy_the_testiccrimsun:sorry im a dumbass:P12:43
crimsunconcept10: technically the statement is true, but I understand what you're driving at12:43
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: that worked....12:43
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, in my experience most drivers are loaded automatically with hotplug12:44
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen i've had a rh shell and a few unix shells but im no pro12:44
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Panzerboy!flood12:44
ubotuI guess flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.12:44
crimsunconcept10: in most cases (hence why I used "probably"), it's not needed for PCI cards12:44
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tiglionabbitubotu extras is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:44
ubotutiglionabbit: okay12:44
tiglionabbitubotu forget sources12:44
ubotui forgot sources, tiglionabbit12:44
tiglionabbitubotu sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories12:44
ubotutiglionabbit: okay12:44
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: then check out what might be the problem with the xv12:44
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jasoncohentiglionabbit, heh, now why don't have to link to that awful ubuntuguide12:45
light_punch2i mounted the ubuntu.iso, i don't see a boot.iso file to start up the installation from hard drive.  just want to burn 10MB of startup file to start the installation process.12:45
Panzerboy!guide12:45
ubotuPanzerboy: Are you smoking crack?12:45
Ang3lFir3jasoncohen also all the nics i have are rtl8139 based so should that matter?12:45
Danarnautilus is pissing me off...12:45
Go_pLasticanyone know where i can get codecs, to play my .avi and .mpg files?12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to auto change wallpapers in ubuntu?12:45
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Panzerboyheh12:45
Danarhow do you get it to stop resizing every time you enter a new folder?12:45
tiglionabbitjasoncohen: exactly.  Good job, too12:45
Lujecrimsun, I'm still not sure how to pass this terminal output12:45
jasoncohentiglionabbit, thanks12:45
jasoncohenChurcH_of_FoamY, you mean, to change them every X minutes. KDE can do that12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan ubuntu?12:46
Danarand how do you make it open in the current window rather than a new one like it sometimes does?12:46
DekaPinkHey all... I'm trying to use bittornado on my Ubuntu, and it keeps giving me an error... I put it in the pastebox... ^^;12:46
crimsunLuje: I presume you have mouse usage and thus can highlight and paste, correct?12:46
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jasoncohenmy gf had 30 backgrounds changing every minute randomly12:46
Lujei've got it copied12:46
Hackanyone know how to change the locale?12:46
Lujebut can I just paste it here?12:46
tiglionabbitDekaPink: paste the url here12:46
Luje0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge12:46
Luje        Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge12:46
Luje        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 812:46
Luje        Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] 12:46
Luje        Capabilities: [a0]  AGP version 2.012:46
Luje        Capabilities: [c0]  Power Management version 212:46
Luje0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]  (prog-if 00 [Normal decode] )12:46
Luje        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 012:46
jasoncohenChurcH_of_FoamY, i don't think gnome supports that but you can always use KDE12:46
Luje        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=012:46
Luje        Memory behind bridge: e0000000-e1ffffff12:46
Luje        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff12:46
Luje        Capabilities: [80]  Power Management version 212:46
jasoncohenSTOP IT Luje !12:46
tiglionabbitLuje: you should use a pastebin, please12:46
[koji] !flood12:46
Luje0000:00:05.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)12:46
ubotuit has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.12:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn12:46
Luje        Subsystem: Netgear: Unknown device 5a0012:46
AerebusI just downloaded wine-20050628 srouce and did ./configure, make depend, make, and make install. Does anyone know if there is a command similar to '--build source wine' i can use to make my own personal .deb file for installation?12:46
Luje        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 1612:46
Luje        Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 12:46
Luje        Capabilities: [44]  Power Management version 212:46
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jasoncohen!flood12:46
DekaPinkhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/47712:46
jasoncohenLuje, damn't..stop12:46
concept10Ang3lFir3, I used this to intall my wireless based on that chipset: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E112:46
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: well how do I get the mplayer movie "menu" bar besides the video window?12:46
Danaranyone?12:46
dapimp53Is there any known programs I can use from Ubuntu to my windows remote desktop?12:47
crimsunLuje: please use the pastebin linked in the topic (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/)12:47
Hackanyone know where the locale is kept and i can change it myself12:47
Danarevery time i open a folder, it resizes the window, and it's too damn small12:47
MrMaDSeNrealvnc.com12:47
naliothdapimp53: krdc12:47
jasoncohennalioth, ah, so that was all one block of text?12:47
[koji] dapimp: terminal server client12:47
timmy_the_testic#flood crimsun: ok that kinda worked got to preconfuring packages then this :-  Preconfiguring packages ...12:47
timmy_the_testic(Reading database ... 75752 files and directories currently installed.)12:47
timmy_the_testicUnpacking x-common (from .../archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb) ...12:47
timmy_the_testicdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/X11', which is also in package xorg-common12:47
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: i have no idea, i've never ever used the mplayer gui12:47
Danarwho's bright idea was it to make that the default behaviour?12:47
naliothjasoncohen: yes12:47
timmy_the_testicErrors were encountered while processing:12:47
timmy_the_testic /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb12:47
timmy_the_testicE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:47
tiglionabbitDekaPink: that is a weird error.  I don't know what you can do about that.  You could try using bittornado-gui instead12:47
PanzerboyMrMaDSeN: always used the text version12:47
tiglionabbit!info bittornado-gui12:47
ubotubittornado-gui: (Bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 236 kB12:47
naliothcrimsun: keep your +q handy12:47
Panzerboytimmy_the_testic: are u sick ?12:47
timmy_the_testicsorry think i did that wrong:s12:47
concept10nalioth, heh12:47
crimsuntimmy_the_testic: err, you, too (flooding -> pastebin)12:47
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DekaPinkThank you... :D12:48
[koji] timmy: you should go to the url for pasting12:48
MrMaDSeNPanzerboy: ok... I got no sound either... but i12:48
Hackso, locale?12:48
MrMaDSeNI'll have to look into it12:48
jasoncohenhotplug will automatically attempt to find drivers for a new nic, correct? is it necessary to do anything else for most wired NICs?12:48
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Panzerboyok people, time to sleep12:48
Panzerboynighty night12:48
Hacknight12:48
eruinnn12:49
crimsunjasoncohen: that's correct, and usually no, nothing additional is required12:49
Danarno one can help with nautilus?12:49
Lujeok, folks, I think I got that under control.12:49
LujeCrimsun: i just pasted it into the URL.12:49
tiglionabbitDanar: I'm sure someone can, what's your questiong again?12:49
HackDanar: what with it?12:49
crimsunLuje: great, thanks12:49
jasoncohenany backport developers here?12:49
naliothDanar: i missed your question12:49
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PanzerboyDanar: google for disable spatial nautilus12:49
Lujesorry for all the chaos :)12:49
Danarit keeps resizing the window every time i enter a folder12:49
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Danarit's really pissing me off, and it's a stupid default behaviour. if i maximize the window i did it for a reason12:50
Hackits because it opens a new one each time (or it does on my gentoo box)12:50
tiglionabbitDanar: oh, you can reconfigure it.  Applications -> system tools -> configuration editor12:50
Danarit keeps making it too small12:50
thiniceI reckon you get this question a lot, but where do I add my soundblaster?12:50
thiniceis it still /etc/modules ?12:50
tiglionabbitDanar: it's under apps -> nautilus12:50
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crimsunthinice: no, don't do that. Which sblive is it?12:50
Danarheh. i was poking around in the prefs12:50
thinicesblive 5.112:50
Hackanyone know where the locale is????? i wanna change it12:50
jasoncohenthinice, you shouldn't need to add the driver to /etc/modules12:50
thinicewell it picked up the onboard for the mobo but not the sb12:51
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crimsunthinice: paste the output from ,,cat /proc/asound/cards'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:51
jasoncohenthinice, if you're using the sblive you'll probably want to disable the onboard and just use the sblive12:51
thiniceuhm where'd I disable that ?12:51
jasoncohenin your BIOS12:51
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thinicedoh'.12:52
thinicetouche'.12:52
Danartiglionabbit, i don't see it12:52
ADreLynx12:52
thinicewell the sblive shows up, alsamixer -c 1 shows it12:52
Danartiglionabbit, that is, i can't find the settings i'm looking for12:52
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LujeI think my netgear card isn't even showing up in the terminal output12:52
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jasoncohenthinice, it might not work properly with the onboard audio also enabled12:52
crimsunLuje: I only see your wireless and your via-rhine12:52
tiglionabbitDanar: I'm not sure what the exact configuration you need is, but I'm sure it's one of those settings.  You can try changing them and quitting/launching nautilus again to see what they did to it12:52
jasoncohenthinice, i had that problem when i booted up with my webcam and it had its own mixer and sound controls but i then lost sound in gnome12:53
crimsunLuje: lsmod|grep ^via-rhine12:53
Lujecrimsun: is that good or bad? :)  I have no idea what's going on12:53
Danarthere's too many to go through12:53
jasoncohenLuje, what netgear card?12:53
thinicecrimsun: it's in there12:53
Hacknos da12:53
jasoncohenLuje, i've setup a wg511t and a wg51112:53
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Lujewg311t I beluieve12:53
thiniceI gotta say I'm drop dead impressed.12:53
crimsunthinice: in where?12:53
jasoncohenLuje, then you should be good, madwifi drivers are already installed with linux-restricted-modules12:53
thiniceI started to get tears in my eyes when I added my windows drives in fstab.12:53
jasoncohenLuje, sudo modprobe ath_pci12:54
thinicecrimsun: /proc/asound/cards12:54
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crimsunthinice: right, but it's probably card 1, correct?12:54
jasoncohenLuje, then hook up the card and see if it flashes12:54
crimsunthinice: (not card 0)12:54
thiniceit's 1 (Live, Emu101k) - the board is 012:54
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thiniceI'll reboot and disable.12:54
Lujejasoncohen: neither of the two commands I typed in did anything12:54
crimsunthinice: no real need.12:54
crimsunthinice: which onboard is it?12:54
Lujethe card is already hooked up-- is that bad12:54
jasoncohenLuje, what commands?12:54
thinicenforce12:54
Lujemodprobe ath_pci12:54
fatfreeporkanyone know how to get LAMP for warty?12:54
thiniceNf212:54
eruindid I just see rhythmbox plus a recent cvs popping up in breezy? :D12:55
Lujeand the one with grep that crimsun suggested12:55
crimsunthinice: do this in a Terminal: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:55
thinice0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce212:55
thinice                     NVidia nForce2 with ALC655 at 0xee002000, irq 2112:55
jasoncohenLuje, so it's hooked up, now go to system > administration > networking12:55
harris|uW: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb12:55
harris|u  Connection timed out [IP: 66.90.101.204 80] 12:55
harris|uhmm12:55
thinicek.12:55
Lujejasoncohen: will do12:55
Aerebusanyone know how to make a icon for a program that is command line based startup in a terminal? i dragged my icon to desktop and right click properties, check start in terminal, when i click the icon it starts but then closes....12:55
Danartiglionabbit, i got it for the default user, but what about for root?12:56
jasoncohenLuje, lsmod | grep ath_pci12:56
Lujejasoncohen, I'm there and I only see the dialup modem and ethernet connection12:56
crimsunthinice: afterward, you should reboot12:56
concept10fatfreepork,  sudo apt-get install apache2 php4 php4-mysql mysql-server12:56
Danarthx Panzerboy12:56
tiglionabbitDanar: uh..  I don't know...12:56
crimsunthinice: (though rebooting isn't strictly necessary, but it's easier)12:56
jasoncohenLuje, remove the card and hook it back in12:56
mourilsorry pp i need same help.....whid my grub...12:56
DanarPanzerboy, how do i do the same for root?12:56
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Lujeokay, that did something jasoncohen12:56
tiglionabbitDanar: you shouldn't run nautilus as root though, someone said it's bad.  I don't really believe them, but.. meh12:56
Lujewant me to past the grep?12:56
jasoncohenLuje, now ifconfig12:56
Danartiglionabbit, doesn't matter.12:56
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jasoncohenLuje, do you see ath0?12:57
Lujejason, i haven't taken the card out yet-- is that ok?12:57
fatfreeporkconcept10: ive got apache12:57
Lujenot yet, but the grep gave me some lines12:57
Danartiglionabbit, i'm on a livecd. i need to move some files around, with appropriate permissions, and nautilus makes it easier12:57
concept10fatfreepork, well just install what you need12:57
jasoncohenLuje, that just means the driver is loaded12:57
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mouril y need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"12:57
fatfreeporkconcept10: it keeps saying can't find php412:57
jasoncohenconcept10, why would he have to restart? he already had the drivers installed from linux-restricted-modules, right/12:57
[koji] fatfree: no worries it will not reinstall12:57
crimsunmouril: have you tried searching Google?12:57
concept10fatfreepork, you need to update your repositories12:57
Lujejasoncohen, cool-- so step two is ifconfig?12:58
Lujeor to take the card out?12:58
crimsunmouril: and/or asking on the ubuntu-users mailing list?12:58
fatfreeporkconcept10, how do i do that?12:58
[koji] fatfree: unless you have the -reinstall option12:58
jasoncohenLuje, take the card out first and put it back in12:58
jasoncohentell me if you see any lights12:58
concept10jasoncohen, he shouldnt have to restart12:58
Lujedo i have to shutdown my computer to do that?12:58
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concept10fatfreepork, you are using warty or hoary?12:58
Danarnvm. got it12:58
jasoncohenLuje, no12:58
fatfreeporkconcept10, warty12:58
Danargconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser true12:58
jasoncohenfatfreepork, php4 is in hoary12:59
Lujeokay, i'll take it out and put it back in now12:59
fatfreeporkwhat cna i get in warty?12:59
Lujeis it enough to just pop it up a little bit and then put it back in?12:59
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jasoncohenfatfreepork, not warty12:59
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tiglionabbitwell, see you guys later, brbs12:59
jasoncohenLuje, pop it out and then back in12:59
Lujejasoncohen, cool-- doing that now12:59
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jasoncohenLuje, usually you just push a tab and it pops out12:59
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, i can't get anything for warty?01:00
concept10fatfreepork, you should upgrade to hoary, but if you prefer warty you should learn about adding repositories.01:00
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Lujei have to unscrew my case01:00
fatfreeporkconcept10, where can i learn that stuff?01:00
Lujeand then i can pull it up a little bit01:00
jasoncohenfatfreepork, upgrade to hoary - warty doesn't have php3 or php401:00
concept10fatfreepork, run apt-cache search php401:00
mighty_pork_swori have just tried "apt-get upgrade" and had this back "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" Any suggestions??01:00
jasoncohenfatfreepork, any reason you want to stick with warty?01:00
Danari just hit delete on some files, and it didn't ask to delete them, it just deleted them. and it didn't send them to the trash either. it's set to prompt first...01:00
thiniceout of curiosity, why is intel in that line ?01:00
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, becuase thats what i have01:01
jasoncohenLuje, oh... i forgot01:01
bungopolisI'm trying to use Totem to play DVDs -- everything is working great, but I cant do things like change chapters, seek the movie, or see navigation. I've installed all of the dvd/mpeg related libraries I can find. Any ideas what I might need?01:01
jasoncohenLuje, this is a PCI card- not laptop01:01
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, how long would it take to upgrade?01:01
jasoncohenLuje, then just restart01:01
jasoncohenfatfreepork, on broadband?01:01
fatfreeporkyes of course01:01
Danarbungopolis, use xine01:01
Lujeokay, i'll be back in a couple minutes then-- thanks for all the help!01:01
jasoncohenfatfreepork, not that long- maybe an hour depending on how many packges you have installed01:01
bungopolisDanar -- I dont' want to use xine, I want to use Totem01:01
concept10fatfreepork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes01:01
Danarbungopolis, i don't know if totem can do taht01:01
bungopolisDanar - it certainly can01:02
mighty_pork_sworanyone??01:02
Lujewait-- should I take my card out inbetween restarting?01:02
Lujeor since it's a desktop is restarting enough?01:02
jasoncohenfatfreepork, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes50401:02
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naliothmighty_pork_swor: the repos are wonky today01:03
nalioths_dogmighty_pork_swor: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:03
Lujeall right, I'm just going to restart without removing my card.  see you folks in a minute!01:03
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mighty_pork_sworwill they work for breezy??01:03
jasoncohenconcept10, i think that's the same info on the bottom of this page - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes50401:03
ang3lfir3_2jasoncohen,  it worked01:03
concept10jasoncohen, okay01:03
jasoncohenLuje, just restart01:03
holycowi see the #debian gang has moved over to #ubuntu01:04
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naliothmighty_pork_swor: ohh! breezy is broken01:04
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, you used a new card? perhaps the old card was defective01:04
BeatYouanybody use ddclient in here ?01:04
ang3lfir3_2new nic loaded up perfect .... ubuntu is my new hero01:04
concept10BeatYou, i do01:04
jasoncohenAng3lFir3, does this card use the same driver?01:04
ang3lfir3_2yes01:04
BeatYouconcept10, did you install through apt-get ?01:04
mighty_pork_swornalioth: how come??01:04
ang3lfir3_2dlink 530tx01:04
concept10BeatYou, whats the problem01:04
BeatYouconcept10: not sure what to put for interface in the configuation01:04
naliothmighty_pork_swor: because its under heavy developement01:04
BeatYouip for my router ?01:04
bungopolisDanar -- I worked it out: gstreamer (the default framework for totem) doesnt currently support dvd navigation. Installing the totem-xine packages replaces the framework with the xine framework, which is capable of it (but its still the totem player)01:05
ang3lfir3_2jasoncohen,  teaches me to try older hardware first01:05
concept10BeatYou, yes, i installed w/ apt01:05
BeatYou"interface used for dynamic DNS service"01:05
BeatYouwhat did you put01:05
mighty_pork_swornalioth: i know that just that this is the 2nd time round that i have installed breezy on this machine and havnt came accross this error b4.... just seems strange:S01:05
ang3lfir3_2thank you all for the suggestions even when its this simple it can be highly frustrating01:05
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concept10BeatYou, man ddclient - it provides examples for different scenarios01:05
Danaranyone know why nautilus would fail to prompt for deletion, even when it's settings specify that it should, and just delete files without sending to the trash?01:06
BeatYoualright i can always config it later01:06
elmayahello triying to install ubuntu on my laptop but it hangs on starting pc cards..any workarround on this???01:06
Danarbungopolis, good to know01:06
concept10BeatYou, I used something like this sudo ddclient -ip 192.168.2.19 -host example.dyndns,org01:06
bungopolisDanar -- works perfectly now01:07
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adrian_hehe01:07
BeatYouconcept10: you run it in in /etc/init.d/ though01:07
Danar!root01:07
ubotuwell, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:07
Lujeok, I'm back01:07
BeatYouso it updates periodocially on its own01:07
adrian_i reinstalled Ubuntu :D01:07
Lujehi again everybody01:07
adrian_it's all nice and clean again01:07
DanarLuje, don't run apps as root01:08
concept10BeatYou, oh interface? umm..01:08
adrian_no more KDE for me!01:08
LujeDanar, I know I'm not supposed to, but it seems easier for this sort of thing, right?01:08
holycowDanar, i've seen that happen too actually, haven't been able to reproduce it unfortunately01:08
DanarLuje, what sort of thing?01:08
Lujeconfiguring wireless internet01:08
concept10BeatYou, Im not really familiar with ddclient, it worked at first but when I rebooted my server could not be reached01:08
Lujei'm having a really really difficult time01:08
BeatYouconcept10, ill get, just wondering if anyone else has messed with it01:08
tatiana`ok next one, i set the permissions on this program, mousepad, so i'm the owner but it won't open for me, it segfaults... yet root can open & run it? it was installed when i installed the rox filer01:08
Danarholycow, heh. i want to avoid reproducing it :p know how to fix it?01:09
DanarLuje, don't log in as root, just use sudo01:09
Lujewill do, Danar01:09
holycowDanar, until we can reproduce it there is nothing to fix really01:09
jasoncohenLuje, hey01:09
Lujehi jasoncohen01:09
jasoncohenLuje, ifconfig01:09
Lujeyou got it, chief.01:09
jasoncohentype that in a terminal01:10
Danarholycow, it reproduces it every time i hit delete01:10
holycowyour kidding?01:10
holycowfile a bug01:10
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Lujeokay, jasoncohen-- want me to paste in the pastebin?01:10
jasoncohenLuje, do you see ath0?01:10
Danardunno how01:10
Lujenope01:10
Lujeit has eth001:10
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Lujeand lo01:10
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holycowDanar, apps/system/bug report tool01:11
D1is anyone familiar with VPNC?01:11
DanarLuje, you really shouldn't run an app as root and connect it to the net01:11
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tatiana`any ideas anyone heh01:11
Lujei know, Danar-- i'm just logged in as root to save all the sudo'ing.01:11
Lujejasoncohen, just lo and eth001:12
jasoncohenLuje, strange- then it's not working01:12
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Lujeanything I can do to make it work?01:12
DanarLuje, you have only yourself to blame if you get hacked01:12
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croutonhowdy folks01:12
Danarholycow, bah, i'm not going through all that. you have to have an account01:13
jasoncohenLuje, have a look at this page- http://www.packetpro.com/~peterson/linux-netgear_wg311t_pci.html01:13
Lujesure thing, jasoncohen01:13
holycowDanar, then that quilifies you to stfu :)01:13
holycowcongratulations01:13
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Danarholycow, funny. good attitude01:13
danielsholycow: be more polite01:13
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danielsdamnit.  i didn't even get to kickban then.01:14
BeatYouhaha01:14
tatiana`lol01:14
jasoncohenLuje, modprobe wlan01:14
danielsthe one time I'm awake ...01:14
jasoncohenmodprobe ath_hal01:14
medgnothat was fun01:14
jasoncohenmodprobe ath_pci01:14
Danarshouldn't have to log into an account just to report a bug01:14
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tatiana`guess not.01:14
=== BeatYou what do you guys think of http://hxc.ath.cx:81/~beatyou/forest/ - design for a friend of mine *NOTSPAM*
jasoncohenthen ifconfig ath0 up01:14
lunarknighthi, I'm trying to compile something but it's missing opengl headers like gl.h, etc... what apt-get package should i use?01:14
danielsDanar: well, the bug system would get quite massively spammed if it was fully anonymous01:14
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danielsDanar: plus, the other problem with that is, how do we check back to see if the bug's solved?01:15
Danardaniels, so enable spam protection on the server01:15
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danielsDanar: a lot of bug reports are '<foo> doesn't work' as is, which is vague enough as to be useless, and removing the requirement for registration would just make that far worse01:15
flughping01:15
danielsDanar: er, define 'spam protection'?01:15
Danardaniels, each bug has a number...01:15
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concept10BeatYou, did you use ddclient?01:16
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Danardaniels, well if the server detects lots of reports flooding the server from a single ip, for example..01:16
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Lujejasoncohen, when I type in the modprobe nothing happens01:16
jasoncohenyou mean it just goes to the next line01:16
danielsDanar: that's indistinguishable from a person who just reports lots of bugs (especially developers), and it's also after-the-fact01:16
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jasoncohenthat means it's working01:16
Lujeoh :)01:16
karnage-since upgrading from PHP 4.3.9 to PHP 4.3.10, ive noticed there is issues with the MSSQL extension that results in failed INSERT and UPDATE queries to an MS SQL database. Does anyone know of an easy fix for this for ubuntu, or can someone guide me through downgrading to PHP 4.3.9 via APT?01:16
jasoncohenLuje, lsmod | grep ath_01:16
Danardaniels, not at all, it can be automated and act when it detects it01:16
sjjubb1989hello01:16
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, i just download the 5.04 iso right01:16
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Danardaniels, and one person who reports a lot of bugs isn't going to flood the server01:17
jasoncohenfatfreepork, no, no01:17
Lujeok, I did that and it shows a few lines01:17
Aerebusanyone know how to make a icon for wine startup in a terminal? i dragged my icon to desktop and right click properties, check start in terminal, when i click the icon it starts but then closes... is this even possible?01:17
sjjubb1989is there a way to change mouse pointers (i'm in ubuntu)01:17
concept10BeatYou, you still there01:17
jasoncohenconcept10, do you have that warty to hoary upgrade link?01:17
jasoncohenconcept10, i think fatfreepork read the wrong part of the release notes01:17
adrian_ehh01:17
BeatYouconcept10: yes01:17
adrian_jasoncohen,01:17
holycowdaniels, any reason still to be polite? :)01:17
concept10fatfreepork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes01:17
danielsholycow: yes01:18
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jasoncohenLuje, did ifconfig ath0 up work?01:18
holycowyour much too forgiving01:18
adrian_just do apt-get (install) upgrade01:18
concept10BeatYou, so I guess the ddclient is working for you?01:18
DanarAerebus, make it point to 'sh whatever'?01:18
danielsDanar: honestly, based on experience -- blogs have this too, and very advanced spam-detection algorithms, and still get ruined --- it just doesn't work.01:18
Lujei haven't tried that yet01:18
sjjubb1989adrian: apt-get upgrade01:18
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fatfreeporkconcept10, i just follow those instructions right?01:18
BeatYouconcept10: not sure.. my ip hasn't changed in a while01:18
danielsholycow: well, being rude serves no purpose.  it won't get anyone anywhere.01:18
sjjubb1989adrian: what is the difference between update and upgrade?01:18
AerebusDanar, i'm sorry i dont understand01:18
Lujeit says error while getting... no such device, jasoncohen01:18
concept10BeatYou, do you know what process that is ?01:18
SuperIDI'm replacing FC3 on my laptop.  Today I got an ubuntu torrent, burned the iso and the install failed early (but booted ok).   I got a second iso, not a torrent, burned it on a different machine and it failed the install at basically the same spot...any advice?01:19
BeatYouconcept10 what do you mean01:19
holycowdaniels, duly noted, but the lazy deserve no less as they are simply leeching energy and effort from you and the chan imho01:19
jasoncohenfatfreepork, you want to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every "warty" to "hoary" on each line. then save and "sudo apt-get update"01:19
concept10fatfreepork, yes.  Basically you have to change your repositories to Hoary and run some commands01:19
adrian_SuperID, it would help if you said what spot it failed at01:19
jasoncohenfatfreepork, you can also use synaptic to do it graphically01:19
fatfreeporkokay i'll try that01:19
fatfreeporkoh01:19
fatfreeporki'd rather that way01:19
pschulz01Greetings.  I have a ubuntu workstation which is not booting. VFS: Unable to boot.01:19
jasoncohenLuje, then the drivers aren't working for you, sorry01:20
jasoncohenfatfreepork, which- synaptic?01:20
pschulz01There has been email in ubunti-users, but no explaination how to fix it easily.01:20
concept10BeatYou, I mean what process is ddclient running as ?  i run ps aux | grep ddclient and I dont see it01:20
SuperIDadrian, I was surprised that two differnt ISOs failed at all....I've never had trouble with a distro installation before01:20
Lujejasoncohen, is there anything I can do?01:20
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, yes im in the package manger now01:20
jasoncohenfatfreepork, i added some screenshots to the repository wiki01:20
jasoncohenfatfreepork, check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:20
BeatYouconcept10: sorry misunderstood you, yes it as running01:21
concept10BeatYou, my server works on the local network, but I cant access it from the net since rebooting01:21
Danardaniels, you know what.. it wasn't deleting them after all, i was just looking in the wrong place for the trash folder01:21
pschulz01Is there anything in the wiki? I have boted sing a LiveCD from warty01:21
karnage-can you select different versions of packages to install with APT, or are you restricted to use only the latest releases? I want to remove and install version 4.3.9 of PHP rather than the current 4.3.1001:21
jasoncohenfatfreepork, on the software sources page (you'll want to click edit and change warty to hoary01:21
concept10BeatYou, so im trying to find out if ddclient is running or not01:21
danielsholycow: eh, if it gets to be a serious drain on my productivity, I just switch tabs over to work and ignore IRC.  *shrug*01:21
adrian_but SuperID, what in the install failed?01:21
jasoncohenfatfreepork, for every repository that is enabled01:21
SuperIDadrian, I am recreating it right now01:21
jasoncohenkarnage-, you can force a version in synaptic or with apt and then hold it01:21
BeatYouconcept10: not sure, i have never had probglems with apache, i can use any host and apache automaticlay binds to it01:21
jasoncohenLuje, you can do more searching on google. not much i can do to help you now though01:22
BeatYouips, or hostnames01:22
jasoncohenLuje, you might want to compile madwifi from CVS01:22
jasoncohenLuje, a newer version might work better for you01:22
jasoncohenLuje, my wg511t works with the included drivers01:22
concept10BeatYou, how do I find out what apache is binded to?01:22
Danarhow come windows don't snap to borders?01:22
Lujejasoncohen, i've searched nonstop for four days now-- and i've even tried other forums01:22
jasoncohenLuje, then download madwifi from CVS and compile\01:23
Lujecan I get madwifi from synapetic?01:23
medgnoDanar, are you using gnome or kde?01:23
LujeI don't know what CVS is01:23
Danargnome01:23
jasoncohenyou'll need kernel-headers and build-essential01:23
BeatYouconcept10, have you isntalled webmin ?01:23
jasoncohen!cvs01:23
ubotujasoncohen: Are you smoking crack?01:23
holycowdaniels, heh practical.  i suppose it's futile to expect humans to put in a marginal effort or not lie/distor info? ehe :) i gotta learn your kung fu01:23
concept10BeatYou, not on that box01:23
medgnoDanar, try holding down Shift while moving the window. It should now strongly snap to other windows. It still will not snap on resize, though01:23
concept10BeatYou, let me do that01:23
Danaroh. thx01:23
medgnoDanar, no problem01:24
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jasoncohenubotu CVS is a version control system, CVS helps to manage releases and to control the concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors.01:24
ubotujasoncohen: okay01:24
jasoncohen! cvs01:24
ubotucvs is probably a version control system, CVS helps to manage releases and to control the concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors.01:24
Danarit would be nice if it did01:24
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, i can't find the software sources page01:24
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elmayahow do i disable acpi on installation?01:25
jasoncohenfatfreepork, what page?01:25
Danaris there a way to get it to use that ALT+click thing to resize windows? you can hold alt & click to move windows around, but not resize...01:25
concept10BeatYou, another question, right now the box I use for a server is basically a box for guests to access the net, how do I get it to start in a CLI only runlevel?01:25
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, repositories01:25
TokenBadanyone know if they have linux drivers for a nvidia motherboards?01:25
Danari mean where you alt+ right click to resize01:25
jasoncohenfabbione, settings > repoistories01:25
jasoncohen*repositories01:25
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, then01:25
Velcanwhat is the name of the utility used to edit the gnome applications menu ... im not finding it and guessing it's not yet installed01:26
SuperIDadrian, after hardware detection succeeds, it scans much of the cd and says "there was a problem reading data from the cdrom".01:26
searcher`Velcan: SMEG01:26
Lujejasoncohen, it says "no targets specified and no make file found"01:26
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, on the repositores page i have nothing01:26
jasoncohenLuje, make && make install01:26
SuperIDthis is on a system operating quite normally otherwise, the cd reads fine01:26
jasoncohenLuje, you figured out how to download from CVS already? nice01:26
flughm'kay, the world is better now that junior won01:26
elmayahow do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection01:26
Lujei copied and pasted from that site you sent me jasoncohen, but it isn't working01:27
Lujeand the make && make install doesn't work either01:27
jasoncohenfatfreepork, nothing...?01:27
Lujeit says01:27
Velcanhmm ... not finding smeg in synaptic01:27
Lujejasoncohen, it says: KERNELCONF: /usr/src/linux/.config does not exist..  Stop.01:27
[koji] Velcan: add backports01:27
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fatfreeporkjasoncohen, i have one thing checked01:27
jasoncohenLuje, did you install kernel headers?01:27
Lujei have no idea how to do that01:28
Lujei downloaded a few randomly from synaptic01:28
Danarhrm, nautilus won't let me rename a folder i just made01:28
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fatfreeporkjasoncohen, cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _warty warthog_01:28
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, that is the only checked box01:28
jasoncohenfatfreepork, wow01:28
elmayazzzzzz....01:28
Danarevery time i click rename, it only stays for ~1 second, then cancels before i type anything01:28
jasoncohenfatfreepork, ok, look at this page01:28
jasoncohen!multimedia repositories01:29
ubotumultimedia repositories is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories01:29
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[koji] Danar: it happens sometimes so I rather do it in the cmd line01:29
Danar[koji] , know how to fix it?01:29
Velcankoji: pardon my ignorance but what do you mean?01:30
[koji] Danar: no i don't want to be bog down by it01:30
[koji] !backports01:30
uboturumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:30
concept10hmm...I forgot how to get into webmin01:30
Velcanthanks01:30
dapimp53Ok I got my wireless and my mouse to work.... last thing is I have no sound. What do I need to do to get sound on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop01:30
Lujejasoncohen, are there certain linux headers I should download?01:30
Lujewould it be advisable to just donwload all of 'em?01:30
Danar[koji] , i got it. i went to Edit > Rename instead and it stayed01:30
elmayahow do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection need some help here... :(01:30
jasoncohenLuje, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`01:30
jasoncohenfatfreepork, you want your sources.list to look like the OLD SOURCES.LIST i have01:31
[koji] Danar: there you go01:31
jasoncohenfatfreepork, i'm assuming you only want main & restricted01:31
Danarconcept10, browse to 127.0.0.1:11000 or whatever the port is01:31
Lujesweet deal-- downloading now, jasoncohen (thanks!)01:31
synstarAnyone know any 3gp to mpeg converters?01:31
Danarhrm, how come nautilus doesn't ask me what to do when i drag files/folders around?01:32
elmaya:(01:32
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jasoncohenLuje, :)01:33
elmayadammn01:33
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concept10Danar, its 10000 but thanks01:33
Lujeall rihgt, jasoncohen, it's downloaded-- what should I do now?  it's got me in folder root/madwifi01:33
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TokenBadthink the audio on my motherboard is cmedia..anyone know if they have drivers for that for linux?01:33
elmayais there like a ubuntu-help channel?01:34
crimsunTokenBad: the c-media mixer? yes. It's the actual DSP that matters, though.01:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYum this would be it01:34
TokenBaddsp?01:34
crimsunTokenBad: what's the lspci -v line for audio?01:34
TokenBadcrimsun, you just went over my head01:34
jasoncohenLuje, did you take down the CVS source?01:34
crimsunTokenBad: open a Terminal and type: lspci -v |grep audio01:34
jasoncohenfatfreepork, how are you doing?01:35
concept10Danar, damn, it wont let me get into it01:35
TokenBad0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)01:35
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, followed the instructions on that page01:35
Lujetake down the source?  i have the page I'm using with a bunch of instructions on it-- i'm just copying and pasting from that.  Should I take it from the top?  jasoncohen?01:35
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fatfreeporkjasoncohen, sudo apt-get update01:35
crimsunTokenBad: yeah, it's supported just fine, but you'll want to use alsa-source from universe.01:35
fatfreeporkjasoncohen, nothing happening it seems01:35
jasoncohenfatfreepork, you just need to make your sources.list look like OLD.SOURCES.LIST - otherwise you'll also have multiverse universe and hoary-extras which you may not want01:35
concept10Danar, I forgot what firewall I have on there besides firestarter01:35
TokenBadok again..over my head01:35
crimsunTokenBad: and make sure the "IEC958 Capture Monitor" is muted.01:36
dapimp53Can anyone help me with my sound on my laptop?01:36
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crimsunTokenBad: search the Ubuntu wiki for information on downloading, compiling, and installing alsa-source01:36
jasoncohenfatfreepork, sudo apt-get updaete01:36
jasoncohen*sudo apt-get update01:36
Indurhmm01:36
TokenBadk01:36
crimsundapimp53: what sort?01:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYyawn01:36
Indurso I guess I'll just ask my question =-o01:36
dapimp53I have no sound at all. I have a Toshiba Satellite A75 Laptop01:36
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crimsundapimp53: and which sound chipset does it use?01:37
IndurI can't get the network to autoconfigure, which I believe is the reason I can't get on the internet once I have ubuntu installed =(01:37
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elmayaanybody reads me?01:37
elmayahello01:37
meriis there any gui to install wallpapers/themes/icons?01:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYhi01:37
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TokenBadhmm01:37
naliothyou go jasoncohen!01:37
meri(for gnome)01:37
TokenBadmy mozilla isn't closing01:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYelmaya whats the prob?01:38
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naliothmeri: system > prefs > theme01:38
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zenlunaticnalioth: do you know how to emulate mouse buttons on x.org?01:38
jasoncohennalioth, huh? heh01:38
elmayahow do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection need some help here... :(01:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth is there a way to auto change desktops in ubuntu?01:38
elmayathat's my problem01:38
naliothzenlunatic: not offhand, no01:38
dapimp53crimsun: I honestly don't know01:38
concept10Danar, okay I had tot change the allow /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf01:38
flipynalioth, this will work for icons too?01:38
crimsunelmaya: boot apci=off01:38
zenlunaticnalioth: on your ibook do you use an external mouse?01:38
naliothflipy: if its packaged according to gnome standards, yes01:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYelmaya um that i don't know i'm sorry :(01:39
pixelmonkeymeri, and for wallpapers, just right-click your desktop and say "Change Desktop Background"01:39
elmayaok i'll try that01:39
crimsunelmaya: there are other options, search Google01:39
naliothzenlunatic: yes i have a 3button usb scroller01:39
Lujejasoncohen, when I type the first command from that page you sent me, I get the following error:01:39
Lujewarning: failed to open /root/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory01:39
dapimp53crimsun: I am trying to look it up right now01:39
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TokenBadwhat killall command would close mozilla?01:40
naliothelmaya: at the installers prompt, it should say something like "press f1 for help, enter to continue" or somehting like that01:40
jasoncohenLuje, let me find you the right CVS page01:40
spermie_how do i look at apt-gets packages?01:40
Lujethanks a million jasoncohen01:40
pixelmonkeyTokenBad: killall mozilla from command line01:40
TokenBadI did that01:40
TokenBaddidn't work01:40
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elmayamy laptop hangs on pc-card detection01:40
flipythanks guys01:40
crimsundapimp53: you need to use the snd_azx driver in alsa-source from universe.01:40
naliothTokenBad: killall closes all your stuff, i believe, (or is that 'slay'?)01:40
crimsundapimp53: err, sorry, the snd_atiixp driver, not the snd_azx01:40
pixelmonkeyTokenBad: alternatively, you can try closing it in the taskbar and gnome should let you "Force Quit".  Alternatively, you can run xkill from command line, and then select a mozilla window01:41
dapimp53I beg your pardon01:41
thiniceis there a way I can query apt-get packages? so I can look up where glib is ?01:41
Danararg, what do you install for mp3 support again?01:41
dapimp53what is alsa-source from universe01:41
Danargstreamer something, isn't it?01:41
naliothDanar: gstreamer0.8-mad01:41
Danarthx01:41
TokenBadthat xkill got it01:41
pixelmonkeyTokenBad, sometimes, killall doesn't work because the app your are trying to kill isn't really running in a process called what you think it is01:42
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TokenBadah ok01:42
sjjubb1989hello01:42
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pixelmonkeyTokenBad, in those situations, you can either run top, or run ps lx | grep 'appname' to find out what the actual name is01:42
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sjjubb1989does anyone know how to make websites think firefox is IE01:42
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sjjubb1989i forgot the name of the extenstion or string01:42
pixelmonkeyTokenBad, xkill is often faster than any of those.  I have an xkill launcher on my gnome panel for when apps misbehave ;-)01:42
TokenBadheheh01:43
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TokenBadok now...01:43
crimsunubotu: alsa-source is Enable the universe repository, then sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa*.deb01:43
ubotucrimsun: okay01:43
TokenBadto do the alsa source01:43
arennerAnybody know much about network print servers? I need something that will work with both Lin and Win, so I am thinking about getting one.01:43
jasoncohenLuje, HEAD: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi co madwifi01:43
pixelmonkeyTokenBad, also, if you add a panel applet to your panel, there is a GNOME applet called "Force Quit" which is a fancier version of xkill, basically01:43
dapimp53crimsun: where do I get what you are talking about?01:43
crimsundapimp53: I just entered the information into the bot01:43
Lujecommand head not found, jasoncohen :(01:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes anyone know if ubuntu can auto change wallpapers?01:44
zenlunaticDoes anyone know the code to emulate mouse buttons via keyboard in x.org?01:44
Danari'm trying to play an mp3 and i get 2 alterts saying 'cannot open resource for writing' and 'cannot pause playback'01:45
croutonChurcH_of_FoamY: Not without an additional program..01:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYcrouton , what program is that?01:45
crimsunDanar: does sound work otherwise? Did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?01:45
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Danaryes, and yes01:45
crimsunDanar: what is the following set to? System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio sink01:46
arennerChurch_of_Foamy: I know that KDE (kubuntu) has a slide show capability. Not as familiar with Gnome.01:46
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes there are proggys for that01:46
spermie_how do i run synaptic on kubuntu as a root user???01:46
Danarhrm, it won't let me open oggs01:46
Danarthey're all disabled01:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , can you direct me to it is it apt-gettable?01:46
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you have chbg, or a script called "ranwp.sh"01:46
crimsunspermie_: you can use Kynaptic01:46
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spermie_i heard it was evil =?01:47
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Danarcrimsun, esd01:47
TokenBadwith installing the alsa source I can just use the synaptic to install it right?01:47
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: chbg is apt gettable01:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthank01:47
Danarcrimsun, test works01:47
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: the ranwp is googleable01:47
jasoncohenLuje, i can't find the FAQ i used to use01:47
jasoncohenthey got rid of it01:47
crimsunDanar: what application are you using to play mp3s?01:47
thinicewhere can I find glibc? and for future reference, is there anything similar to urpmq for apt-get ?01:47
Danarcrimsun, rhythmbox01:47
naliothjasoncohen: use the wayback machine01:48
Lujethanks anyway, jasoncohen-- I'll try back some other time01:48
arennerAnybody use a home network print server that works with Linux? I am thinking about getting one.01:48
crimsunthinice: libc6, and apt-cache or aptitude01:48
jasoncohenLuje, sorry01:48
thinicecrimsun, you're a god.01:48
jasoncohenhttp://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi01:48
Lujeno sweat :)01:48
jasoncohenLuje, or try this01:48
thinicejiminy cricket...01:48
TokenBadhow come if I go to the media select thing to pick alsa and test it..it gives error?01:48
jasoncohenLuje, http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi01:48
Lujewill do-- thanks again :)01:48
jasoncohenhe has a package you can download01:48
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crimsunTokenBad: because a program has already grabbed the sound device (namely, esd)01:48
jasoncohenmadwifi_1.6-1.tar.gz01:48
pixelmonkeyChurcH_of_FoamY, go to gnomefiles.com and search for wallpaper, I found 3 apps in one search: http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=270 http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=938 http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=104.  Take your pick.01:49
TokenBadI already did killall esd01:49
TokenBadit can't have control01:49
Danarcrimsun, any ideas?01:49
regeyaooooo01:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYi botched the apt-get kubuntu-desktop install how to remove it?01:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYpixelmonkey , thanx01:49
crimsunTokenBad: are you testing alsa for the default audio _sink_?01:49
moirehi, where do i find the package ncurses-devel? i need it to make menuconfig the kernel01:49
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: what do you mean, botched?01:49
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crimsunDanar: did you restart Rhythmbox after installing gstreamer0.8-mad?01:49
TokenBadwell guess01:49
naliothmoire: use synaptic to search for 'ncurses'01:49
TokenBadwant to know if I got alsa working01:49
Danarcrimsun, closed it first01:49
TokenBadso can try to play game and see if audio is fixed01:49
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moirenalioth: there is no ncurses-devel01:50
Danarcrimsun, shouldn't it be able to play ogg? it won't let me open any. they're disabled01:50
croutonnalioth: Is there anything.. better than chbg?01:50
crimsunDanar: ogg...vorbis? flac?01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , it returend an error code of 1 after it found that there was broken dependancys01:50
crimsunDanar: (yes it should be able to)01:50
naliothmoire: no libncurses, ncurses-dev?01:50
Danarcrimsun, vorbis. actually, it won't open mp3s either01:51
regeyaoh, I know nobody will remember this from a few nights ago, but I was having odd rhythmbox problems...only some files would show...out of 1158, only 16 showing up...it finally occurred to me that they all had a word in common in the title.  it wasn't showing up in the search bar of rhythmbox, but I looked, and lo, there was a search item listed in gconf.  #$%! gconf...01:51
pixelmonkeycrouton, I just sent three links to ChurcH_of_FoamY for alternatives to chbg which are GTK-based GUIs01:51
crimsunTokenBad: so you've killed esd and changed all the sound properties to use alsa. Does testing with aplay work?01:51
Velcanwhat's the utility to view my harddisks01:51
croutonpixelmonkey: Ah, thanks. didn't see that.01:51
naliothcrouton: there is a script out there for gnome, and pixelmonkey mentioned gnomefiles.com01:51
croutongratzi gratzi01:51
TokenBadaplay?01:51
Danarcrimsun, oops. that's cause it wanted a folder. strange it won't let you open individual files from the menu01:51
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Velcanview as see their names so i can mount my secondary drive01:52
pixelmonkeyVelcan, nautilus?01:52
crimsunTokenBad: yes, the direct alsa wav player01:52
pixelmonkeyVelcan, I don't get your question01:52
Velcanno01:52
Velcani thought it was something like fdisk -l01:52
pixelmonkeyVelcan, oh, I see.  Yea, sure, you can use fdisk, parted, whatever01:52
pixelmonkeyVelcan, to get at the "physical" view of your drives01:52
TokenBadnever used it so no idea01:52
Velcanhow do i use it to show all drives01:53
naliothVelcan: "sudo fdisk -l"01:53
crimsunTokenBad: man aplay01:53
crimsunTokenBad: use aplay to test a wav file01:53
Velcanahhh i wasnt doing sudo :)01:53
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pixelmonkeyis sudo really necessary?  Everyone gets read access to these drives.01:53
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bath66hello01:54
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naliothpixelmonkey: yes01:54
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jack_You know msn messenger displays the song you're playing? How do I do that on Linux?01:54
Velcanah crap :( .... i left my big drive ntfs ... no wonder it didnt auto detect01:54
pixelmonkeynalioth, oh, well you need to be a member of the disk group01:54
jack_I've tried GAIM + autoprofile, no luck01:54
nalioths_dogVelcan: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically01:54
Danarcrimsun,  fuser -v /dev/dsp says esd is using the sound. would that cause it?01:54
bath66Do you know the root password by defaut in ubuntu 5.04 ?01:54
HrdwrBoBVelcan: ubuntu doesn't currently auto detecrt01:54
HrdwrBoB!sudo01:54
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:54
pixelmonkeynalioth, I guess I must have added myself to that group long ago01:54
crimsunDanar: you want esd to be running01:54
HrdwrBoBbath66: go to that URL01:55
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bath66i don't have web navigator now =01:55
Danarcrimsun, then what might cause it to be unable to play anything?01:55
naliothpixelmonkey: yes, us poweruser are somewhat out of touch with "default"01:55
bath66i'm under irssi, and i cannot edit my xorg.conf withou the root password01:55
Danarcrimsun, rhythmbox that is01:55
vidzbath66: use sudo -s and type your user password for a root shell. Root is disabled for security01:55
naliothbath66: there is no root pwd01:55
bath66ok01:55
jack_it's your userpwd01:55
bath66thank you01:55
pixelmonkeynalioth, well, users should be members of the disk group, imo.  It's their disk, after all01:55
jack_there's no root acct01:55
naliothbath66: read what was posted to you01:55
naliothpixelmonkey: there are reasons for 'defaults'01:56
vidzjack_: There IS a root account. It is just disabled with passwd -l01:56
jack_Now, how do I make msn update what song I'm playing, like in Windows?01:56
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crimsunDanar: test with gst-launch-0.801:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/310922 <--- what does this error mean?01:56
cafuegoAiyee!01:56
pixelmonkeynalioth, don't doubt it ;-)  After all, don't want a user doing echo "hello world" > /dev/hda1 ;-)01:56
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Danarcrimsun, run that?01:56
crimsunDanar: see the man page for gst-launch-0.8 if you're not familiar with the syntax01:56
naliothpixelmonkey: there are lots of reasons.. .. .. <lol>01:56
TokenBadwell aplay works but the sound in the game is still messed up01:56
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cafuegopixelmonkey: No, that wouldn't be anywhere near secure enough ;-)01:56
Velcanis there a simple way to mount a ntfs drive ... here's why ... windows is completely gone from this machine so there is no need for ntfs ... i want to move the files off the ntfs drive, format the ntfs drive and then move the files back01:57
crimsunDanar: use it to test whether gstreamer0.8 recognizes the files01:57
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crimsunTokenBad: what game?01:57
cafuego!tell velcan -about user accessible ntfs01:57
TokenBaddoom 301:57
rendiguy's how to creater kvirc link on my desktop ?01:57
pixelmonkeycafuego, well I just realized that the hd*'s are rw for the disk group.  Better layout would be r for disk group, rw for root, and nothing for others01:57
naliothVelcan: the dog sent you a link01:57
rendii have finished to install it01:57
crimsunTokenBad: are you using plughw:0,0 ?01:57
naliothVelcan: to mount all the drives on your box01:57
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TokenBadwhat is that?01:57
Velcanthanks01:57
pixelmonkeycafuego, I might change my system as such, sending me farther from the default than before ;-)01:57
crimsunTokenBad: ok, I take it you haven't consulted the Doom III Linux FAQ01:57
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crimsunTokenBad: so that's the first thing I'd read next01:58
TokenBaddidn't know there was one01:58
vidzVelcan: sudo mkdir /media/windows && mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows will mount the windows partition01:58
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crimsunzerowing.idsoftware.com01:58
vidzVelcan: If /dev/hda1 is your ntfs partiton01:58
cafuegopixelmonkey: I can even think of a time when a user other than root needs raw device access.01:58
rendi?01:58
rendiany hel pfor me01:58
cafuegocan't01:58
rendi*for01:58
Velcanthanks that's what i couldnt remember ... the -t ntfs part01:58
rendiguy's how to creater kvirc link on my desktop ?01:58
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pixelmonkeycafuego, read access isn't exactly harmful though... so that you can do fdisk -l, for example ;-)01:58
cafuegorendi: Right-cclick on the sdesktop, choose 'Create Launcher'01:59
Danarcrimsun, RUNNING pipeline ...01:59
DanarExecution ended after 1 iterations (sum 23000 ns, average 23000 ns, min 23000 ns, max 23000 ns).01:59
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cafuegopixelmonkey: That's my point, users don't _need_ fdisk -l normally.01:59
glyph_hello01:59
Danarcrimsun, did i do that right?01:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYcrimsun http://pastebin.com/310922 <---whats it mean01:59
pixelmonkeyI mean, what's a hacker gonna do, grep my NTFS drive until he finds my Windows password? :-)01:59
HrdwrBoBpixelmonkey: yes01:59
cafuegopixelmonkey: That's more likely than anything else, i guess ;-)02:00
HrdwrBoBpixelmonkey: in any case, it's not secure02:00
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crimsunDanar: I don't know, what command did you use/02:00
TokenBadcrimsun, reading that faq now..but not understand it02:00
pixelmonkeyHrdwrBoB, yea, you have a point actually.  Like if fetchmail passwords are stored in /etc02:00
rendithanks02:00
Danargst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/path/to/music.ogg02:00
jack_you can't grep the windows password lol02:00
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jack_it's encrypted in the SAM file02:00
aarcanewhat packages do I need to install to make my toshiba laptop kick into low power mode when I kick into battery power, namely, I want it to half or so CPU usage and stuff, and turn off peripherals after a few moments disuse like it does in windows, but only when in battery mode02:01
pixelmonkeyjack_, I was just joking ;-)02:01
naliothjack_: not directly, no02:01
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: looks like a chbg issue. I've never used that app.02:01
jack_yeah, the encryption is weak02:01
vidzpixelmonkey: If a user has access to the SAM file, he could use a tool like l0phtcrack or LC4 to crack your passwords02:01
glyph_ish a little lost02:01
naliothi'm not joking02:01
KyralAnyone know why UT2k4 hates me?02:01
tats`awayaarcane check the damn small linux forums for Toshiba02:01
DanarKyral, cause you owned it? :p02:01
vidzKyral: because you're ugly?02:01
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: google "ranwp.sh gnome" or go to gnomefiles.com02:01
pixelmonkeyvidz, LOL, come on guys, it was REALLY a joke.  If I were RUNNING Windows, a hacker WOULD have access to my SAM file, so who cares!02:01
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crimsunDanar: you seem to have omitted the other parameters.02:01
tats`awaythere was a refernce on there to a page specifically for toshibas an dit was quite useful iirc.02:01
vidzKyral: kidding :)02:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo you think it will still run?02:02
crimsunDanar: make sure you read the examples at the bottom of the man page.02:02
KyralIt WON'T run in Cedega nor in Linux02:02
KyralInstalls, but won't run02:02
DanarKyral, you weren't running cedega in linux? o.O02:02
glyph_is there a program like wine that is free because every time i try to install wine it messes up?02:02
Danar:p02:02
aarcanetats`away, thanx :)02:02
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tats`awayaarcane yw honey.02:02
cafuegoglyph_: wine *is* free (ish)02:02
KyralI keep Cedega around for JO/JA02:02
tats`awayif you need more than that, msg me02:03
Danarglyph_, cvscedega02:03
pschulz01Greetings. On Hoary, I am getting 'Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: nable to mount rootfs on unknown-block(0,0)02:03
tats`awayi'll try to get back to you asap but atm i'm running around for a few mins.02:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm it diden't give the error the second time around02:03
pschulz01Has anyone seen this befoe?02:03
glyph_i know its free but its not that its the installer that messes up02:03
cafuegopixelmonkey: yes, normally happens when you use an initrd and don pass root=/dev/hdX to the kernel.02:03
bath66mmh, anyone with running ubuntu PPC ?02:03
cafuegos/pixelmonkey/pschulz01/02:04
KyralOn THAT note, anyone know how to UNINSTALL Kubuntu-Desktop (ie, everything it pulled in?)02:04
cafuegobath66: Yes.02:04
bath66i can't run my X server in my G402:04
pixelmonkeycafuego, damn autocomplete ;-)02:04
pschulz01This is a default hoary..02:04
cafuegoKyral: try 'debfoster'02:04
vidzKyral: sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop should work?02:04
bath66it makes an error with the r128 driver02:04
cafuegopschulz01: What g4? What video card?02:04
naliothbath66: have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  ?02:04
bath66it can't found the bios02:04
cafuegogrrrarrrgh!02:04
cafuegobath66: Ah yes.02:04
bath66Ati rage fury 128 ...02:04
Kyralvidz: it just kills the meta-package02:05
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pschulz01cafuego: ?02:05
zenlunaticDoes anyone know the code to emulate mouse buttons via keyboard in x.org?02:05
glyph_sigh...02:05
cafuegobath66: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' - when it asks if it needs to use the framebuffer, say Yes.02:05
bath66ok02:05
bath66i try with fbdev too02:05
Danarglyph_, ?02:05
bath66and it doesn't work02:05
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cafuegobath66: Hmm. Lemme boot the G3 and check...02:06
Diablo-D3hey all02:06
pschulz01cafuego: I'll boot with live CD and check..02:06
Diablo-D3wow 468 people!02:06
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flugh-plow? hehe, sounds violent02:06
Diablo-D3amazing!02:06
KyralI basically wanna uninstall KDE02:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamY46902:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwaite 468 >.<02:06
glyph_at least wine screwd up in Cobind Desktop and FC3 and FC402:06
TokenBadcrimsun, I don't understand what it means when it says use the one command to set stuff..I copied and pasted into terminal and it just gives error02:06
Diablo-D3anyhow, whats the build essentials package called on ubuntu?02:06
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Kyral!info build-essential02:06
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB02:06
Danarglyph_, any reason you won't try cvscedega?02:06
Kyralthat :P02:07
glyph_no02:07
Diablo-D3ahh, thats it02:07
cafuegoflugh: 'priority low'02:07
Danarglyph_, then what's the problem?02:07
Danarglyph_, it's free, it plays games, it sounds like what you want...02:07
crimsunTokenBad: read the bottom examples02:08
glyph_but i shoud wine's install is messing up is all and i was looking for alternitves just in case it fails agian (need to run steam)02:08
Kyralbut it doesn't have Installshield support02:08
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KyralPay Cedega works like a CHARM02:08
cafuegoIf you need your windows shite, use windows.02:08
cafuegosheesh.02:08
Danarglyph_, what's it doing?02:08
Danarcafuego, that's hardly good advice :p02:08
TokenBadcrimsun, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/  thats the one i am reading02:08
naliothcafuego: hear hear02:08
TokenBadwhat examples?02:09
cafuegoDanar: Beats people whining here about cedega for days on end.02:09
Danarcafuego, so send them to #cedega or something02:09
cafuegoYou know. the box said "Designed for Windows".02:09
glyph_i dont remeber the exact error it was one of those where i would have to reinstall the system to fix it02:09
Danarcafuego, yeah, and the box on cedega prolly says designed for windows games :p02:09
cafuegoDanar: Either way it windows software (and not Linux software)02:10
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Danarglyph_, you can reinstall/upgrade the kernel without doing that... what would need you to reinstall the system?!02:10
moirewhich support do i need for the nforce2 nic?02:10
moirein kernel02:10
Hikaru79Anyone know of any third-party ubuntu repositories that have freeride?02:10
crimsunTokenBad: the example in the ALSA section.02:10
glyph_sry i ment kernel02:10
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crimsunmoire: the forcedeth module.02:10
crimsunmoire: it's already included in the default Ubuntu install.02:11
bath66cafuego: some news from your G3 ? ;)02:11
glyph_where do i download cedega02:11
moirecrimsun: yes but i want to compile my own small kernel :)02:11
Danarglyph_, google cvscedega02:11
moireand optimized02:11
crimsunmoire: I just told you.02:11
bath66where is the pipe caracter in a apple keyboard ?02:11
Danarglyph_, it's free if you build it yourself, otherwise  you need to pay02:11
cafuegobath66: Okay, mine seems to work OK when agpgart, drm and r128 are loaded in the kernel; the Driver in X is set to 'ati' and Option "UseFBDev" "true" is set.02:11
glyph_that would be the smart idea eh?02:11
moirewhere do i find it in make menuconfig? ;)02:11
bath66cafuego: that an pci card02:12
cafuegobath66: Are you running a custom kernel or a stock one?02:12
crimsunmoire: in the ethernet 10/100 section02:12
cafuegobath66: yes.02:12
Danarglyph_, but search specifically for cvscedega and you'll find what you need02:12
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bath66that the default kernel from ubuntu02:12
cafuegobath66: Do you have a BusID set?02:12
moirename?02:12
Kyralif I kill something that something depends on with Debfoster, how can I get it back :P02:12
bath66yes,02:12
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bath66PCI:0:16:002:13
cafuegobath66: *nod* same here.02:13
moirecrimsun: i found it thx :)02:13
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bath66mmh ..02:13
cafuegobath66: I think mine might be using the gatos r128 driver.02:14
Aerebuswhats the command to extract a file with .tar.Z?02:14
cafuegoAerebus: znew foo.tar.Z02:14
cafuegoAerebus: Thatl make it a .tar.gz02:14
bath66mmh02:14
Aerebus?02:14
glyph_thx02:14
Aerebushow do i extract it?02:15
bath66now there wasn't the error for bios02:15
bath66it found it02:15
cafuegobath66: <heh>02:15
vladuz976hi my mouse doesn't copy and paste in eterm. left click doesn't work. does anybody have an idea what that might be?02:15
cafuegobath66: X starting?02:15
^thehatsrule^tar zxvf ?02:15
bath66but X "coght signal 11"02:15
tats`awayvladuz976 middleclick02:15
bath66non02:15
bath66it don't start02:15
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vladuz976tats`away: don't have 3 button02:15
TokenBadcrimsun, all I see is says run these commands but don't say if run them from doom or what02:15
Aerebustar -zxf watever.tar.Z?02:15
TokenBador if was to run from alsa02:15
Danaraeddan, man tar. should be tar -xzvf file.tar.gz02:15
bath66and i don't have (EE)02:15
TokenBador some other command first02:15
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bath66just unresolved symbols02:16
cafuegoAerebus: tar xfZ foo.tar.Z02:16
tats`awayvladuz976 use both buttons at once or push down th ewheel02:16
cafuegoAerebus: Note the capital Z02:16
vidzvladuz976: In linux, to emulate the 3rd button, hold down both buttons at once02:16
crimsunTokenBad: you don't see the section regarding ALSA and plughw?02:16
KyralHow do I go about searching for broken packages in my system (in like depends?)02:16
cafuegobath66: ... so something is still missing...02:16
xfSxhey peeps! is there anyway to choose which packages are installed of the hoary cd, my 1.6gb doesn't seem to be enuff to fit it all in and i want to skip OpenOffice and stuff in order to fit it02:16
kbrookscafuego, you dont02:17
kbrookscafuego, apt-get -f install02:17
cafuegokbrooks: why not?02:17
tats`awaywonders if i'd break something if i uninstalled open office02:17
cafuegotats`away: No, that';l be fine.02:17
kbrookscafuego, apt-get -f install # USE!02:17
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cafuegokbrooks: Read back.02:18
kbrookswhy not?02:18
kbrooksummm02:18
Aerebuscafeuego tht doesnt work?02:18
cafuegokbrooks: How would that fix an X driver issue?02:18
kbrookscafuego, sorry02:18
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cafuego*SMACK*02:18
cafuegoAerebus: Does it print any errors?02:18
kbrookslol02:18
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vladuz976tats`away: yes, i can copy that way, what about paste02:19
tats`awaysame thing02:19
Aerebus tar xfZ whatever.bin.tar.Z tar: compress: Cannot exec: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 202:19
jf6some one can send me CEDEGA.deb?02:19
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vladuz976tats`away: oh i just highlight it and the middle is paste?02:19
tats`awayyep02:19
Aerebustar: Error exit delayed from previous errors02:19
cafuegoAerebus: Aha! Ubuntu doesn have compress, eh?02:19
vladuz976cool thanks02:19
crimsunjf6: you can download it yourself after you buy a license.02:19
cafuego!find uncompress02:19
Danarjf6, just use cvscedega02:19
Aerebusi am using ubuntu02:19
jf6crimsun,  i dont hav monai02:20
Aerebus....02:20
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jf6Danar,  where?02:20
vladuz976tats`away: what's a good 3 button mouse to get?02:20
Danarjf6, it's free if you compile it yourself. google cvscedega and you'll find what you need02:20
Aerebuswhy cant it be extracted like a normal file? lol why do i have to turn it into something else?02:20
jf6how to compile???02:20
jf6i dont now02:20
jf6know02:20
tats`awayum M$ or logitechs are good, esp the optical ones vladuz97602:20
Danarjf6, google cvscedega and you'll find what you need02:20
jf6can you come on pv02:20
cafuegoAerebus: Does '/bin/uncompress' exist?02:20
jf6?02:20
vidzvladuz976: M$ intellimouse is one of the most erginomically correct and most comfortable02:20
jf6i'm french so....02:21
tats`awayvidz only if you're a righty02:21
Danarvidz, logitech mx series is better02:21
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cafuegovidz: I find them horribly large and uncomfortable.02:21
cafuegovidz: I'm with Danar02:21
Aerebusyes it does02:21
vidztats`away: no, M$ Intellmouse is ambideztrous02:21
Danarvidz, that's not a good thing02:21
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tats`awaycafuego ya they can be if you have small hands like me.02:21
cafuegoAerebus: Ok. uncompress foo.tar.Z - | tar xf02:21
Danarvidz, people are either left or right handed, and should use a suitable mouse02:21
tats`awayshrugs most i've seen from M$ are for rightys.02:22
vidztats`away: the Intellimouse is designed for both. It is symetrical02:22
tats`awayesp their tracballs heh.02:22
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tats`awayk well thats good to know.02:22
vladuz976but they are not really 3 button huh?02:22
kbrooksAerebus, with .tar.gz.Z (for example), you run uncompress, gunzip then tar02:22
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tats`awayif i uninstall OOo, it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop... wtf is that02:23
tats`awayvladuz976 some are, some are not.02:23
kbrookstats`away, dont worry02:23
cafuegokbrooks: tar CLAIMS to understand -Z (for uncompress)02:23
vidztats`away, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it doesn't matter02:23
vladuz976tats`away: which are02:23
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tats`awaymost mice i've seen use the wheel as the 3rd button02:23
glyph_another question does ubuntu have YUM or just apt-get?02:23
Danarit is the third button...02:23
kbrooksapt02:23
cafuegoMost mice I've seen have no wheel and only one button.02:23
kbrooksglyph_, rpm != deb02:23
Danarcafuego, lol02:23
naliothglyph_: yum is for rpms, we have apt-get02:24
tats`awaymeta package? whats that mean02:24
vladuz976cafuego: that's apple mice02:24
Danartats`away, a fake package that depends on a group of other packages02:24
tats`awaycafuego only if you're on a mac heh in which case you're screwed.02:24
cafuegotats`away: it references a few hundred other packages, so by installing ubuntu-desktop, you get a few hundred (it's less typing)02:24
glyph_thx now i feel like i asked a stupid question02:24
tats`awayfake? lol ok02:24
unifihi I am having major issues installing mythv on my ubuntu02:24
cafuegotats`away: Really?02:24
tats`awayk thx.02:24
tats`awayya really02:24
Danartats`away, not "fake" just that it doesn't have anything of it's own. it exists to depend on other packages02:24
tats`awaymacs come with mice with no buttons or just 102:25
vidztats`away: For example, say you want to install mp3 support... you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins. Thats a metapackage (contains 0 files) that depends on all of the plugins and installs them for you02:25
tats`awaysome mac mice "tilt" to make a click.02:25
cafuegotats`away: I seem to recall a one-button mac being by far better and easier to use than a NO-MOUSE dos box or two-button Win box for about a whole decade.02:25
Danartats`away, hence 'metapackage'02:25
vladuz976tats`away: so how can u use them then for other than mac osx02:25
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unifihi I am having issues installing mythtv on my ubuntu  I am googled to death and I cant find a decent ubuntu tutorial anyone know if one?02:25
xfSxhey peeps! is there anyway to choose which packages are installed of the hoary cd, my 1.6gb doesn't seem to be enuff to fit it all in and i want to skip OpenOffice and stuff in order to fit it02:25
tats`awayvladuz976 afaik you can't... so stick to pc mice heh02:25
Danarunifi, might try following a debian tutorial02:26
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tats`awaythey use a special key combo to imitate 2 button functionality for some reasons.02:26
cafuegoWhen you were typing up BASIC to make your 286 go BEEP I was doing video editing on a mac <heh>02:26
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tats`awaythx for the explanation of the meta thingy whoever :P02:26
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kbrooksunifi, do not repeat02:26
tats`awaycafuego well thats fine ... i just don't like their mouse lol02:26
unifidanar: hmmm gave that a shot... didnt seem to give02:26
freddy_heya!02:27
cafuegotats`away: It was all you needed on macs for a very long time. Contextual menus didn exist back then.02:27
Danarunifi, well, you might have to modify a few ubuntu-specific things02:27
tats`awayah ok'02:27
tats`awaythat makes sesnse02:27
cafuegotats`away: These days you *of course* get a Logitech mouse wirh yer Mac.02:27
unifidanar, have you done an instally?02:27
Danarunifi, but your basic apt-getting and stuff should work02:27
Danarunifi, not yet..02:27
vidzmythtv is KNOWN to be a bear to install. It has a million dependencies02:27
unifidanar, yes you apt a bunch of packages, but then you have to install from source02:28
crimsunit's in multiverse and should install fairly easily02:28
tats`awaycafuego seen them w/out good mice still being sold but shrugs i don't use macs so i don't care too much.02:28
cafuegotats`away: That run Linux very nicely.02:28
cafuegos/That/They/02:28
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Danarunifi, apt-get install mythtv doesn't do it? it has client & server02:29
Danarunifi, there's the front-end & back-end in the repository02:29
unifidanar, yes I gave did that part... you have to also install part of it from source02:30
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VelcanOkay got the files copied off that ntfs drive. now I need to ditch the ntfs. On my system the drive is hdb ... hdb1 is what I mounted .... I want to make sure I use cfdisk correctly. Do I start just by doing 'cfdisk'? Or do I need to do 'cfdisk hdb'? Or something else ...02:30
sdepperthey everyone does anyone know how to make flash player work on konqueror02:30
Danarunifi, which part?02:30
TokenBadhow install alsa source?02:31
unifidanar, well I am working from this tutorial http://myth.wagstrom.net/index.php/UbuntuInstallation02:31
crimsun!tell TokenBad about alsa-source02:31
xfSxanyone know why clicking a tab in firefox with the middle mouse button pastes instead of closing the tab?02:31
biovorex windows02:31
unifidanar, I have done all of it except when I am doing the make install I am getting an error and the installation craps out02:31
biovoremiddle button is paste02:32
DanarxfSx, there's a setting for that02:32
DanarxfSx, might have to look in about:config for it02:32
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DanarxfSx, i think it's the loadcontent one02:32
xfSxok cheers danar02:32
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Aerebusis it possible to have Ubuntu use 16bit colors?02:33
VelcanCan anyone answer my question about cfdisk02:33
Velcanis it just cfdisk or cfdisk hdb02:34
Danarunifi, http://lists.olin.edu/pipermail/ocp/2005-January/000196.html02:34
crimsunAerebus: sure02:34
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VelcanI guess trial and error never hurt ... much02:35
Aerebuscrimsun, how do i change that option?02:35
newbieguy's how to get ymessenger with apt-get ??02:35
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rommerwhat are some programs i can install on a linux server02:35
Danarnewbie, might want to use gaim instead02:35
Velcangaim owns02:35
newbiei dont like gaim02:35
newbie:)02:35
Danarnewbie, i don't think ymsg is in the repository02:36
Velcano_O02:36
newbieoh02:36
newbie!_!02:36
ubotunewbie: No idea02:36
unifidanar, ok thanks will take a look02:36
Danarnewbie, you like having your window shake and stuff?02:36
vidznewbie: What don't you like about gaim?02:36
newbiethe ui02:36
newbiei recenet ym02:36
newbie*recent02:36
xfSxyep cool fixed danar thanks02:36
VelcanI do wish it was skinnable ... maybe someday ... but it still owns02:36
DanarxfSx, np. i had that before too02:37
vidznewbie: Does ym do spell checking?02:37
newbiein gaim can view web cam ??02:37
DanarxfSx, in trying to fix it i even had it loading content when middle clicking the page o.O02:37
newbiei don't think so :(02:37
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vidznewbie: No gaim can't view webcam. A friendly fork of gaim, gaim-vv CAN view webcam02:37
newbiekopete can't join chann too :(02:38
crimsunAerebus: either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:38
crimsunAerebus: or via the command line invocation of Xorg02:38
Danarnewbie, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/02:38
vladuz976does ubuntu not have a .xinit file? where can i look what stuff is being started and where i can add stuff other than from the menu?02:38
VelcanYea. I would like to see a skinaable gaim as well as a chat room option with the yahoo side of it02:39
Velcansomeday ...02:39
newbieumm hot to connect new tab on kvirc ??02:39
newbieit can be ?02:39
newbieserver -m, i type that got dc02:40
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ateveshi, i have a normal soundblaster 16 running, and all system sounds work fine. what packages do i have to install so that mp3s will be played by e.g. amarok02:40
kanamorhola02:40
ateves?02:40
nalioths_dogateves: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support02:41
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crimsunateves: assuming you're using the gstreamer engine for amarok, install gstreamer0.8-mad02:41
naliothkanamor: habla espanol?02:41
kanamorsi02:41
cafuegoI note that dvdcss on amd64 makes mplayer sig11 this morning02:41
vladuz976does ubuntu not have a .xinit file? where can i look what stuff is being started and where i can add stuff other than from the menu?02:41
naliothkanamor: por favor en #ubuntu-es02:41
kanamormuchas gracias02:41
naliothkanamor: da nada02:42
vidzvladuz976: It is under Sessions02:42
vladuz976vidz: other than from the menu. where is the actual file?02:42
vidzvladuz976: Sessions is under your Preferences02:42
atevesso ,what engine do i have to use with amarok? because neither xine nor arts work02:42
naliothateves: you mean like gstreamer?02:42
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newbie!ym02:43
ubotunewbie: Are you smoking crack?02:43
atevesprobably02:43
newbie!yahoo02:43
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, newbie02:43
naliothateves: that link the dog sent you will explain02:43
vidzvladuz976: I don't know02:43
arennerAnybody use a home network print server that works with Linux? I am thinking about getting one.02:43
vladuz976does anyone know here?02:43
cafuegoarenner: HP jetDirect with attached laserJet02:43
cafuegoarenner: or any Linux box with attached printer, i suppose.02:44
naliothvladuz976: evidentally not, you've asked teh same question quite a few times now02:44
vladuz976nalioth: no twice02:44
vidzarenner: My Konico Minolta 2300DL laserjet has a built-in printserver and it works perfectly with Linux02:44
vidzarenner: I use Jet Direct02:44
vladuz976nalioth: coz it02:44
arennercafuego: I am not really familiar with network print servers. Do the drivers for the printer still have to reside on each desktop?02:44
vladuz976s a thing i wanna know02:45
vidzarenner: No02:45
VelcanWhat's the name of the GUI util to view harddisks and space remaining02:45
cafuegoarenner: In most cases yes, as opposed to what Velcan says.02:45
naliothVelcan: xdiskusage02:45
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cafuegovidz evenm02:45
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cafuegoarenner: Keep in mind that you can turn any Linux bnox into a network print server; you can easily share the printer with mac/windows/linux clients using CUPS and Samba.02:46
vidzMaybe I'm wrong and cups has the drivers by default02:46
arennerSo do I need to be sure that the printer I purchase is also supported by both linux and windows?02:46
kanamornalioth me puedes ayudar tu? por favor?02:46
vidz95% of printers work fine with linux and windows02:47
cafuegoarenner: Just linux. Check www.linux-printing.org for supported hardware; they invariable support windows.02:47
arennercafuego: problem is that both my wife and I use laptops. Mine is Linux, hers windows, and neither is on the network all the time02:47
cafuegoarenner: Aaah :-)02:47
vidzarenner: If you have the money, buy a printer that is network enabled02:47
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cafuegoarenner: Mebbe even consider one with built-in wifi.02:47
arennervidz: how much money does that run?02:48
naliothkanamor: ingles, por favor02:48
ykrsnalioth: lots of portuguese speaking users?02:48
vidzarenner: Well I just bought a color laserjet. Keep in mind that a color laserjet with built-in networking is expensive. A Konico Minolta 2300DL from CompUSA was $350 after a rebate I just got02:48
vladuz976nalioth: are there ubuntu channels where we can speak our native languages?02:48
keyshawnhowdy - can someone remind me where the log for apt-get errors is located ?02:48
kanamornalioth little english here, but oki, hmmm02:48
pepsixhow do i make a program run as root?02:49
cafuegoarenner: They're pertty cheap these days.02:49
keyshawnpepsix, sudo02:49
vidzpepsix, sudo program02:49
pepsixnot sudo02:49
pepsixSUID02:49
naliothvladuz976: yes there are for most languages02:49
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keyshawnahaha.02:49
cafuegopepsix: man chmod02:49
vidzpepsix, chmod 4755 program02:49
kanamornalioth i need disable the beep sound in lm-sensors02:49
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pepsixthanks, so its chmod that i use to do that02:49
arennercafuego: thanks for the advice02:49
arennervidz: thanks for the advice02:49
cafuegopepsix: Note that shell scripts are not programs.02:49
naliothkanamor: i do not know what lm-sensors are02:50
ykrsthis is great. i still cant believe. i came from gentoo... my older system took 4 days to compile itself... ubuntu in less than 50min was completely configured... i still can believe02:50
keyshawnvladuz976, there's ubuntu-pr02:50
vidzYou can only make shell scripts run as root with sudo. It's a security feature of bash02:50
kanamornalioth aah okis, thx 8)02:50
naliothanyone know about lm-sensor beeps?  >>>see kanamor02:50
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naliothkanamor: uno momento02:50
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keyshawnand try www.ubuntu-br.org02:50
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vladuz976keyshawn: what is pr?02:50
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keyshawnthat's a brazilian ubuntu site.02:50
pepsixi want tvtime to run as root, but i dont want to have to sudo02:50
vladuz976keyshawn: sorry no portugese here02:50
keyshawnpr, as far as i can tell, is portugeuse [sp?] 02:50
cafuegoykrs: Virtually all sane distros just install without recompiling everything needlessly.02:50
kanamornalioth ok, thx again02:50
keyshawnits another channel02:51
jsmidtEvery time I run apt-get update I get this message:02:51
jsmidtW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:51
jsmidtW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:51
jsmidtW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:51
jsmidtW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:51
pepsixwoah02:51
jsmidtIt then says:02:51
jsmidtW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems02:51
jsmidtBut this problem happens every time I run apt-get update. Does anybody know what this problem is or how to fix it?02:51
ykrscafuego: yes, but none so far auto-configured itself, at least for me02:51
naliothjsmidt: please use #flood for that02:51
josh__I tried to install stuff like mplayer-k6 but this, like many other things, seemed to depend on stuff with md5 sums.02:51
GnuKemistI need to pass some command to my AMD64 (fresh install) during the initial prompt... can someone gimme a hand, please?02:51
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naliothjsmidt: yes, the us repos are wonky02:51
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josh__Ah.02:51
TokenBadis the OSS sound system installed by default in ubuntu02:51
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naliothjsmidt: edit your sources.list to remove the us. in us.archive.blah02:51
josh__So... is that a long standing thing?02:51
keyshawnvladuz976, got it under control ?02:52
cafuegoGnuKemist: Hit 'e' at that initial prompt, then add your param.02:52
naliothjsmidt: then try again02:52
vladuz976keyshawn: no02:52
GnuKemistcafuego, thanx... will try it02:52
jsmidtthanks nalioth02:52
naliothjosh__: yes same thing, edit your sources.list02:52
cafuegoGnuKemist: ... or is it at the installer prompt?02:52
vladuz976GnuKemist: -de for german and -jp for japanese?02:52
Danarwhat do i need to install to play wmv?02:52
GnuKemistcafuego, yup02:52
freddy_nalioth ;)02:52
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ykrsgnukemist: whats your video card?02:52
GnuKemistykrs, NVidia 520002:52
keyshawnvladuz976, im sorry, its ubuntu-pt02:52
ykrsgnukemist: my other system, a amd64 had serious issues with a radeon02:52
naliothDanar: w32codecs, but don't hold your breath for anything made by wmp9 or 1002:52
cafuegoGnuKemist: On the cd, just type 'linux-2.6 <your params>'02:52
GnuKemistvladuz976, huh?02:52
keyshawnor ubuntu-br02:53
Danarthx02:53
ykrsgnukemist: should be fine02:53
GnuKemistvladuz976, oh... s'ok... I speak EN too02:53
vladuz976keyshawn: -pt is gonna do me no good02:53
jtan325when you do  "connect to server" using the default gnome panel, you get a nice little icon on your desktop for later use. does anyone know what the command-line equivalent of that is?02:53
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cafuegoykrs: yes, ATI and AMD64 don't really mix well.02:53
Danarnalioth, no installation candidate02:53
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vladuz976GnuKemist: good to know02:53
GnuKemistcafuego, my problem is the HD02:53
GnuKemistvladuz976, ;)02:53
naliothDanar: you need to enable backports for this thing (then disable after you've gotten them)02:53
ykrscafuego: so it seems... kde thought managed to get past it. kubuntu there.02:53
nalioth!backports02:53
ubotuwell, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/02:53
ykrscafuego: dont ask me how.02:54
GnuKemistcafuego, for some reason I always need to use hdparm before installing02:54
ykrstough* sorry02:54
keyshawnyeah, ubuntu definitely needs to work on multilingual support [in the forums, etc]  if they really want it to be universal :)02:54
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cafuegoGnuKemist: Chipset too new02:54
GnuKemistcafuego, indeed02:54
keyshawn[at least provide links to other forums which can be in diff. langs] 02:54
cafuegoGnuKemist: See if you get the latest kernel.02:54
Danarnalioth, how? is that the only way to play wmv?02:54
naliothDanar: afaik, yes02:55
ykrsgnukemist: is it a SATA hd?02:55
keyshawnhowdy - can someone remind me where the log for apt-get errors is located ?02:55
naliothDanar: you might try using vlc, it has native support for lots of files02:55
GnuKemistcafuego, so do you think I can do this at the install prompt: linux-2.6 hdparm -d 1 -A 1 -m 16 -u 1 -a 64 /dev/hda?02:55
cafuegoDanar: What did you think the 'W'in wmv stood for? ;-)02:55
GnuKemistykrs, nope02:55
naliothDanar: but the codecs will allow your whole system to access win32 things02:55
cafuegoGnuKemist: No02:55
cafuegoGnuKemist: hdparm isn available in the installer.02:55
Danarnalioth, not worried about that right now. i'm on the livecd02:56
GnuKemistcafuego, oh boy02:56
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Danarcafuego, i know :p02:56
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ykrsgnukemist, do you have access to another HD? you could clone the HD later, with some third party tool02:56
GnuKemistcafuego, that works under Gentoo... maybe I could run it via the "Execute a shell" menu?02:57
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GnuKemistykrs, don't have one02:57
carlif the perms files on a CD are 700, some mystry user/group - how do I mount it so the local user can read the files?02:57
Danarvlc didn't work02:57
ykrsgnukemist, on gentoo you already have a prompt, on ubuntu during install youe not under bash yet02:57
carlif I try to CD into a dir on it i get " Permission denied"02:57
naliothDanar: then its w32codecs, via the backports02:57
jsmidtdoes anybody know what this problem is:02:58
naliothDanar: or you can download them from www.mplayerhq.hu02:58
jsmidtErr http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages02:58
jsmidt  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:58
pepsixok, so chmod +s sets the SUID bit02:58
cafuegoGnuKemist: No, coz you'd *still* need to actually have the hdparm command available on the cd, and it isn't afaik.02:58
naliothjsmidt: means your apt hiccupped, try it again02:58
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jsmidtthank you02:58
GnuKemistykrs, actually am at a point after some files have been copied to HD...  it worked here...02:58
cafuegopepsix: yes. it's not normally a good idea to use that willy-nilly02:59
GnuKemistcafuego, been able to do it after borking during file copying02:59
pepsixcafuego, i know... i wanted to do it with this program though02:59
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supernixwhat is the difference between the regular packages and those marked universe ?02:59
cafuegoGnuKemist: You can check alt-F2 (new console) and see if it's there02:59
pepsixit needs to access the realtime clock with high precision03:00
ykrsgnukemist, do you have access to a floppy drive? you could copy hdparm and mount the floppy later then03:00
ykrs(if it fits)03:00
cafuegopepsix: Maybe better to setgid it and fix the permissions on /dev/trc03:00
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cafuegortc too03:00
GnuKemistcafuego, gotcha...03:00
pepsixhrm03:00
Velcanah crap ... i gone screwed something up o_O .... when i got to open synaptic i get this error with both my password or the root password - 'Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:03:00
Velcan Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.'03:00
learn25Hello everybody03:00
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GnuKemistykrs, don't think I have any floppies around...03:00
learn25help please...03:01
tats`awaygoddamn it took almost 14mins an xchat froze to uninstall OOo03:01
TokenBadhow install OSS?03:01
Danaryou can get it with deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ hoary main03:01
pepsixcafuego, if i run `sysctl -w dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024` i dont need it to run as root, but id need to run that on every boot03:01
learn25what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.03:01
cafuegotats`away: For future reference, the cd also has an option to do a minimal install ;-)03:01
tats`awaysigh03:01
tats`awayya i know that cafuego03:01
thr1ceDanar, what's that for?03:01
tats`awayits a server install w/no X iirc03:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb03:01
tats`awaynow i just need a decent little wordprocessor03:02
learn25what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.03:02
learn25help03:02
cafuegopepsix: Just add that to /etc/sysctl.conf03:02
Danarthr1ce, not sure what all is in there but you can get w32codecs from it03:02
tats`awayon damn small linux i use FLWriter or pathetic write but neither seems to exist in ubuntu03:02
thr1celearn25, search man03:02
learn25how?03:02
pepsixcafuego, thanks :D so helpful03:02
thr1ceDanar, aah, gotcha =\03:02
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thr1celocate vsftpd ?03:02
thr1cesudo locate*03:02
Velcananyone have any ideas as to why the system cannot copy my Xauthorization file?03:02
pepsixbecause its owned by root maybe03:03
pepsixfix that03:03
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Velcanit's owned by me03:03
pepsixoh fun03:03
pepsixi had a problem with that cause root owned it03:03
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jtan325asnyone know how to do the equivalent of "connect to server" from the command line?03:03
Velcani wess messing around with permissions when it happed03:03
pepsixdo you own the parent dir?03:04
jtan325nautilus-connect-to-server brings up the window, but there doesn't seem to be any options for it03:04
Danarnalioth, i installed w32codecs but i still can't play it03:04
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benkong2hello03:04
jtan325i.e. i have to type it in. i want to emulate the behavior done from the icons placed on your dektop, from the command line03:04
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naliothDanar: did you restart your player, and is it a wmv3 datatype?03:04
Velcanand to make sure as root i did chown -R matthew:matthew /home/matthew && chmod -R 755 /home/matthew03:04
Danarnalioth, yep03:05
benkong2got a question about hostname and domain name when installing qmail. could someone help?03:05
GnuKemistcafuego, got the same error again... "Input/Output error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc"03:05
naliothDanar: if its wmv3 you are most likely out of luck03:05
Danar[00000283]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.03:05
DanarVLC probably does not support this sound or video format.03:05
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TokenBadanyone?03:05
GnuKemistjtan325, which program?03:05
Danarnalioth, why's that?03:05
spermie_i know this is a stupid question to you all, but do any of you use a snes emulator, if so whats it called ?03:06
Danarspermie_, zsnes03:06
jtan325GnuKemist, nautilus03:06
Quest-MasterZsnes, spermie_03:06
Velcanyea zsnes03:06
naliothDanar: b/c uncle bill has kept his codecs well hidden03:06
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Quest-Masterspermie_.. just curious.. why do you have that name?03:06
jtan325GnuKemist, you know how after you do a "connect to server" successfully, nautilus places an icon on your desktop?03:06
benkong2if my dyndns address is benkong2.ath.cx is that my fqdn? the name of my nix box is tuxserver is that my hostname?03:06
pepsixVelcan, i think i just deleted my .Xauthority file when i had problems with it03:06
GnuKemistjtan325, yup... lemme think03:06
jtan325GnuKemist, I would like to know what's the command that actually gets executed wehn i click on that icon03:06
TokenBadfound out in hurry now to do apt-cache search oss03:06
TokenBadso how can install it?03:07
naliothDanar: wmv is windows media video (and the latest versions of wmv havent been reverse engineered yet)03:07
DekaPinkHey... I'm trying to install the ATI proprietary driver... and it keeps saying this to me when I try to run the install: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/48103:07
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Velcani'll try that ... i'll rename it to something else03:07
GnuKemistcafuego, did u get a chance to read my msg?03:07
Danarnalioth, didn't realize wmv3 was the latest version03:07
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spermie_Danar so i would do : sudo apt-get install zsnes03:07
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Danarspermie_, yep03:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYok that program for gnome that background changer03:07
Danarspermie_, if it's not there, make sure you enable multiverse repository03:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYdosen't work while x has a bacgrounf03:08
spermie_spermie@Spermie:~$  sudo apt-get install zsnes03:08
Danarspermie_, if it's still not there, check zsnes.com03:08
thr1ceno, zsnes should be03:08
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Danarspermie_, nvm. it's there03:08
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Velcanima try rebooting03:09
bimberiHi all.  What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions?03:09
hou5tonanyone here have any luck with syncing a treo 65003:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , why is it that when using that background changeing program that i can only see the results after gnome is logging out?03:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's like it puts the image behind the gnome wallpapaer03:09
Danarspermie_, FYI: it'll save yer stuff in ~/.zsnes03:09
thr1ceany good site for snes roms ?03:10
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DekaPinkFor some reason it doesn't want to recognize ./ anymore.03:10
Danarthr1ce, shouldn't be asking that ;)03:10
thr1ceDanar, they're legal, assuming the user owns the games he's downloading03:10
aerichcan someone help? can't seem to install ubuntu, screen goes blank after i press enter (on flatpanel or crt monitor) and even if i use framebuffer=false03:10
vidzthr1ce: Use limewire03:10
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DekaPinkAnyone know why it might be doing that? :)03:11
jtan325GnuKemist, any ideas?03:11
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: i'm not sure at all03:11
Hentaiis there a ubuntu live CD?03:11
naliothask and run03:11
naliothHentai: yes there is03:11
DanarHentai, i'm on it03:11
Hentaiok03:11
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DanarHentai, comes with the install cd if you order it03:12
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phzianyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?03:12
GnuKemistjtan325, am checking... nothing so far03:13
HentaiDanar err ok03:13
phziI am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)03:13
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aerich_sorry d/c03:13
aerich_so can anyone help?03:13
Hentaitheres gonna have to be something about ubuntu to keep me using it03:13
phziwhat's wrong aerich?03:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know about chgb ?03:13
phziHentai: I switched from windows03:14
phzibecause I liked ubuntu so much03:14
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vladuz976what do you do when your girlfriend get's mad at you coz you spend too much time on the computer?03:14
naliothHentai: Danar is pointing out the the free CDs you are shipped are attractively packed in pairs, one live, one install03:14
tats`awayhm whats ubuntu-base bad to remove ? i presume so?03:14
naliothHentai: for ppc, i386 or amd6403:14
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Ramirohola03:14
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{J}tatianahm03:14
vladuz976Hentai: is that a japanese name :-)03:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone?03:14
{J}tatianashrug03:14
Ramiroalguien que hable en espaol?03:15
{J}tatianatry #ubuntu-es Ramiro03:15
Hentaiwell its japanese03:15
cafuegoHentai: If you stop, we'll come and break your legs.03:15
vladuz976Hentai: ARE YOU?03:15
holycowvladuz976, i dare you to google said japanese name03:15
holycow-_-03:15
Ramirooki gracias tatiana03:15
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{J}tatiananp Ramiro03:15
phzivladuz976: you being serious?03:15
Hentaiwhat cafuego?03:15
vladuz976phzi: yes03:15
vladuz976holycow: i didn't03:15
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cafuegoHentai: You said you needed a reason to keep Ubuntu.03:15
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phzivladuz976: you stop using the computer so much, and try having sex03:15
Hentaioh lol03:15
phzior just try 'cuddling', you might even enjoy it03:16
vladuz976holycow: my girlfriend calls me that03:16
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senselessi just installed the msttcorefonts, and it says they are installed, but they are not listed anywhere03:16
{J}tatianacuddlings good heh03:16
vladuz976phzi: is that what she wants when she says that03:16
phziya03:16
phziprobably wants you to have nothing to do, so you pay attention to her03:16
phzijust random acts of cuddling work well03:17
phzionly has to last 30 seconds03:17
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<03:17
phzi:P03:17
{J}tatianarmes @ philips03:17
{J}tatianaoops phzi03:17
cafuegophzi: That's what cats are for.03:17
{J}tatianaremind me to never be your gf heh03:17
phzimeh, I've spent the last two days on my computer03:17
phziand my girlfriend comes and curls up on my lap once and a while03:17
phziit's enough attention to keep her happy03:18
holycowis your gf's name fluffy?03:18
{J}tatianayour gf must only date geeks to be so happy ;P03:18
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cafuegophzi: So your girlfriend *is* a cat eh03:18
holycowinquiring minds want to know03:18
holycow>_>03:18
phzilol03:18
vladuz976phzi: you lucky bastard03:18
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cafuegobimberi: Hmm, that gets me slapped03:18
phzishe sure is acting like a cat, now that you mention03:18
cafuegoBeefTube even03:18
holycowc'mon thats funnny!03:18
holycowdamn, tought crowd03:18
holycow*cough*03:18
phzilol03:19
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vladuz976phzi: holycow your nick is almost as good as Hentai03:19
phzilol03:19
holycowif your into that kinda thing, sure03:19
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cafuegophzi: try a bowl of fish heads.03:19
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cafuegophzi: if she goes for it, she *might* not be a human03:19
glyph_where can i find xlib and xfree86?03:19
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Velcanlol ... it was because my drive filled up in transferring that gobs of info off an ntfs drive <crys>03:19
phziI'm pretty happy with myself right now03:19
phziI did a fresh install of ubuntu for the first time two days ago03:20
{J}tatianafresh cuz it was starting to smell ?03:20
phziand I have my dual header working (bought a new NV card because my ATI sucked)03:20
{J}tatiana:)03:20
vladuz976phzi: what did u have before?03:20
cafuegoglyph_: Ubuntu uses xorg, not xfree8603:20
senselessnoone has an answer?03:20
glyph_help??03:20
phziwinblows and gentoo03:20
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shortcircuitcan someone help me with a usb error? i cant mount my ipod and this is the error from dmesg: can't set config #1, error -7103:20
phzibut I could never get gentoo configged the way I liked it03:20
glyph_ah well can i get it to add?03:20
phzinow, it's so beautiful03:20
vladuz976phzi: didn't like gentoo?03:20
phziI did03:20
cafuegoglyph_: apt-get install x-window-system03:21
glyph_thx03:21
phzinot as much as ubuntu03:21
sdepperthey every one I'm trying to install unreal 2004 on my computer and I cant get the installer to work does anyone have any ideas on how to make it work?03:21
phziI love debian style package managment03:21
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thr1cesdeppert, cd into the mount DIR03:21
Aegirapt rawks :D03:21
Danarsenseless, in synaptic, click the package, click properties and check the installed files tab03:21
BeefTubegentoo needs automated installer03:21
{J}tatianavirgule = comma in french.. how odd03:21
thr1cethen sh install.sh or whatever03:21
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cafuegogentoo needs to go away and die03:21
phzilol BeefTube: it wouldn't be gentoo then03:21
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phzithe whole point of gentoo, is that's it the 'from-source' distro03:21
regeyaindeed03:22
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senselessDanar, everything i want seems to be installed03:22
BeefTubeyea it would advance to genthree03:22
shortcircuiti love emerege but i never liked the gentoo instability03:22
phzianyone here using a SB Live 24-bit?03:22
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regeyaplus that garbage of some packages having different compile-time options03:22
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phziemerge is cool, but honestly, I prefer apt-gt03:22
NeoGeo64im about to wipe my computer and install just ubuntu03:22
virgule{J}tatiana: i got that nick from a workmate ;)03:22
regeyagentoo can be stable, but it's about as exciting as debian stable03:22
cafuegoshortcircuit: Liar it's got higher version numbers so it's got more stable lololrxz!!!03:22
{J}tatianaheh cool03:22
shortcircuityea03:22
BeefTubei broke my ubuntu03:22
glyph_i got this in place of the install sequence package x-windows-system has no insallation candidate03:22
cafuego</sarcasm>03:23
shortcircuitlol03:23
regeyait's possible to break ubuntu03:23
DekaPinkI apparently broke my ubuntu. o.O03:23
regeyalord knows I try03:23
phzilol03:23
phzihow can you break linux?03:23
phziyou can always fix the configs03:23
cafuegoregeya: No, actually I didn't know.03:23
BeefTubeyou guys see my pictures I made in blender?03:23
BeefTubehttp://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444501#44450103:23
glyph_changed a zero to a one eh?03:23
phziunless you like..... really really screw up and delete /bin or something03:23
holycowhosing linux is fairly simple03:23
regeyacafeuego: :P03:23
Danari broke debian, so i'm switching to ubuntu :p03:23
DekaPinkI don't know what's going on but it doesn't recognize ./ for like... running stuff. o.O03:23
regeyacafuego even03:23
phziholycow: but if you know what your doing, fixing it is just as easy03:23
shortcircuitmu ipod is broken on ubuntu, i keep getting " can't set config #1, error -71" in dmesg when i try to mount it03:23
holycowphzi, unfortunately, that requires skillzors03:24
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regeyaindeed03:24
regeyathe skills change over time as well03:24
Hentaiargh03:24
redrosedoes the livecd come with the ability to make a persistante home drive?03:24
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cafuegoYou need to reember to sudo -s before you can REALLY break it03:24
phzirednose: no03:24
regeyathat time spent researching devfs problems a few years ago comes in handy these days03:25
phzibut you could make one manually03:25
holycowthe saving grace for linux, at least for me, is that everything being open you can actually drill down into a problem if you need to03:25
holycowor can hire someone who can03:25
phziand modify the live CD to mount it automatically03:25
regeyaand knowing how the world of linux works, that udev knowledge will be useless by 200803:25
holycowwith closed source your always waiting for the next patch set03:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes any one know how to use ChBg background changer?03:25
DekaPinkIs there another command I can use besides ./ to... run... stuff?03:25
phziwhat stuff?03:25
redroseok... just checking...03:25
phzish03:25
regeyawhat are you on about DekaPink03:25
redrosety03:25
holycowand i have hired people to solve linux related problems and its a bit of an eye opener when you can actually get something fixed as per your needs03:25
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phziDekaPink: sh for some 'stuff'03:25
phziworks instead of ./03:25
glyph_had  to get it from x.org to install it w00t03:26
jf6racoon97_,  test la?03:26
regeyaand the current codebase of the kernel will be 98% gone by 200903:26
virgulewhats that a 'signal 11'? SIGSEGV?03:26
racoon97_jf6 ouais03:26
regeyabut what the hell, you only live once.03:26
DekaPinkTrying to install the proprietary ATI driver, and it's like "use ./drivername.run" to install me" but when I do that, ubuntu says that the command isn't found.03:26
racoon97_hi anyone03:26
glyph_hi03:26
phzihi03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat program controls the background in ubuntu?03:27
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phzibackground?03:27
phziyou mean wallpaper?03:27
cafuegoDekaPink: There's a prepackaged one.03:27
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: did you go to gnomefiles.com?03:27
holycowDekaPink, sudo ./whatever.run03:27
DanarDekaPink, run chmod +x filename, then ./03:27
racoon97_we are french ubuntu user (me and jf6)03:27
jf6YES03:27
DekaPinkThank you. :D03:27
keyshawnet moi aussi !03:27
jf6and we love sex03:27
keyshawndu rien03:27
jf6keyshawn,  cool03:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , yes i did i downloaded the stuff from all three links03:27
racoon97_keyshawn >  cool !03:27
jf6THE FrENCH COMPANY!03:27
BeefTubesudo sh whatever.run sometimes too!03:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYand am gonna try things one at a time03:27
keyshawnmais, je parle le francais03:28
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: and none of them worked?03:28
cafuegoDekaPink: You will want the  xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source packages.03:28
jf6euh on leur fai la marseilleise?03:28
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phziGAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! anyone know about configuring .asoundrc for mutli outputs?03:28
keyshawnnon.03:28
jf6si!03:28
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jf6ALLONS ENFANT DE LA PATRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!03:28
phzieverything I've tried doesn't work03:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , haven't tryed them yet i have yet to compile them i'm trying to fix chbg right now it's doin something weard03:28
keyshawnmaintenant, j'habite aux etats-unis.03:28
phzior just starts playing out of only the back speakers03:28
racoon97_jf6 >  ptet qui faut pas parler francais ici ... :-] 03:28
jf6LE JOUR DE GLOIRE EST ARRIV03:28
virguleils sont fous ces francais >_<03:28
jf6racoon97_,  je sait :)03:28
racoon97_jf6 ta gueule :)03:29
jf6virgule,  lol03:29
keyshawnhehe.03:29
jf6NON!03:29
cafuegophzi: Did you check that the drivers/arts support surround?03:29
jf6I'M A FREE MAN!03:29
racoon97_Ubuntu c'est bien !03:29
jf6YEs03:29
cafuegophzi: Coz it wouldn t surprise me if they didn't03:29
jf6bush c'est mal03:29
jf6:p03:29
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , it's hiding the backgrounds behind the wallpaper you usually see so i kinda want to kill the part of the desktop in gnome03:29
keyshawnjf6, je crois aussi03:29
racoon97_jf6 >  tu cherches des emmerdes ?03:29
jf6racoon97_,  atta03:29
jf6^^03:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , just to see what happens03:29
phzicafuego: yes they do03:29
phziit's completely supported03:30
DanielHolthjust installed hoary, hooray.03:30
danielsok, guys, while I'm sure the French discussion has been amusing, it's off-topic.03:30
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: have fun03:30
phziI just can't write the config properly03:30
danielscan we please get back to Ubuntu support here?03:30
jf6HEY ENGLISH, MY MOTHER SAYED, AMERICAN WERE SOON OF BITCH03:30
daniels(in english)03:30
phzithe driver works by having 3 channels (front, back, mid)03:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , what it can't be done?03:30
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racoon97_daniels > soory03:30
Danardaniels, are you sure? you speak french? ;p03:30
racoon97_sorry03:30
danielsjf6: please stop03:30
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. ANYTHING can be done03:30
jf6AND THE ENGLISH WERE THE SOON OF AN OTHER BITCH03:30
danielsDanar: well, this channel is defined to be english03:30
racoon97_ok try to speak english too03:30
cafuegojf6: Can you switch off the caps-lock, please?03:30
{J}tatianajf6 feme ta guele svp03:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , touche ^_^03:30
Danardaniels, where?03:30
keyshawnright, danny03:30
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{J}tatiana+q?03:31
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virgulehuh ho03:31
Danardaniels, the channel name isn't even english :p03:31
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cafuegoThat works too.03:31
racoon97_hey guys03:31
danielsDanar: heh.  it's somewhere in the rules.  but trust me that it's english.03:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth if i can't get it to work i'm gonna be peeved03:31
thr1ceis /mnt/cdrom default for cdroms?03:31
keyshawnha > good point.03:31
Danardaniels, bah. you're no fun :p03:31
racoon97_do you know where we can't find some good backports ?03:31
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. there is always a way03:31
cafuegothr1ce: No, /media/cdrom003:31
keyshawnwhere's the ubuntu-en - hehe.03:31
danielsDanar: that's my job03:31
regeyaSPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE03:31
cafuegokeyshawn: This is actually ubuntu-nl but we tolerate english03:31
keyshawnwell, i guess that's all due to mark shuttleworth.03:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth , i killed the background app the other day but forgot how i did it >.<03:31
racoon97_because on our french forum it's very diifcult to get some03:32
thr1cecafuego, ok, thanks...used to devfs and trying to help someone -_-03:32
VelcanI thought home directories where only limited in size if they were set as a sized partition at install. Am I wrong?03:32
regeyaooh devfs03:32
regeyasee03:32
phzisigh03:32
Danar{J}tatiana, +q = quiet03:32
phzianyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?03:32
thr1cehehe03:32
cafuegoVelcan: if the disk is full the disk is full...03:32
thr1cedevfs is nice03:32
phziI am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)03:32
{J}tatianawhich does what Danar03:32
mindamphow come everything i try to install with apt-get says "couldn't find package"?03:32
keyshawnyeah, daniels, if I have a suggestion for ubuntu, where should I post it ? [so upper mods would read it] 03:32
mindampi.e. mysql-server03:32
mindampand php403:32
Danar{J}tatiana, quiets them03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth somehow it left the gnome bars still running but killed the bacground so i'm not shure what part of x it was03:33
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{J}tatianalol i guessed but wasn't sure it was a real command or not03:33
Velcanoh crap! duh .... i forgot about the new image files i put on that ntfs drive03:33
mindampcan anyone help me?03:33
Velcanno wonder its taking up so much space03:33
Velcanlol03:33
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Velcani was like ... I have 30g of music ... :\03:34
Danarheh03:34
mindampwho cares how much music you have03:34
holycowmindamp, use synaptic03:34
mindamplets talk about development and ubuntu shall we?03:34
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you'll get it03:34
holycowor search apt repository03:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYi do now go away >.<03:34
mindampsynaptic doesn't have the package listed aither holycow03:34
Hentaithink my wifi card died03:34
holycowmindamp, you need to know about apt-cache search package03:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth yea i hope so03:34
holycowmindamp, maybe its not supported in the base 2000 packages03:34
mindampapt-cache search doesn't find it either03:34
holycowmindamp, you need to enable universe03:34
Velcani dont have that much thats what im saying ...03:34
holycowthen do apt-get update03:34
holycowthen you will find it03:34
mindamphow do i enable universe?03:35
holycowopen up synaptic ...03:35
mindampyeh03:35
holycowtheres a button on the bottom, lets you check off univers repositories03:35
Hentaioh no not again03:35
naliothhentai?03:35
mindampill try that03:35
mindampthanks03:35
Velcanmindamp:  allthough this is often used for help mind you it is still nativly a chat client and i was just chatting03:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYmybackground-properties-0.0.1.tar.bz2 what to do with this file?03:36
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Hentainalioth I killed my pc card slot on my laptop03:36
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open it03:36
mindampworked perfectly holycow, appreciate the help03:36
naliothHentai: like with a screwdriver?03:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth duh lol but.....um........how?03:36
Hentaino03:36
mindampvelcan, no your client is a chat client03:37
learn25help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?03:37
mindampthis channel is about ubuntu03:37
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HentaiI think by inserting a card in the wrong way which bent pins03:37
mindamp:-)03:37
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: let me direct you once more to the man03:37
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: open a terminal and type "man tar"03:37
Hentaino wonder my wifi card didn't work03:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk03:37
naliothHentai: with a hammer?03:37
Velcanyes and my disk was full on my ubuntu box thanks03:37
Hentaierr no03:37
learn25help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?03:37
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, check out the tar options man...like jxvf for example -_-03:38
Velcanif you dont like my chat ignore me or go away03:38
HentaiI bent the pins with a pc card inserted incorrectly03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk03:38
mindamp-awaylearn25 RTFM03:38
holycowmindamp-away, no worries, welcome to ubuntu03:38
learn25what's RTFM?03:38
mindamp-awaythats all i can take03:38
mindamp-awaypeace out03:38
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keyshawn@ mindamp03:38
Velcanlearn25:  It's a mean way of saying seek documentation03:38
keyshawnthr1ce, nice.03:39
naliothlearn25: you are aptly named, it means "read the fine manual"03:39
learn25ok03:39
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DekaPinkDamn. o.O I in my stupidity have screwed up xorg.conf with the ATI proprietary driver. --;03:40
virguleits not really 'fine'.. but close enough03:40
thr1ceDekaPink, run fglrxconfig and make a new one03:40
phziDekaPink: mhmh03:40
VelcanDekaPink:  did you copy it first?03:40
phziI bought an NVidia card03:40
naliothvirgule: its 'fine' enough for this family channel, lol03:40
phzijust so I would have better driver support03:40
phziit's not even as nice as my radeon03:40
virgule>_<03:40
phzibut I needed my dual monitors03:40
DekaPinkVelcan: Apparently I'm not that bright.03:41
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VelcanDekaPink:   Doh! :D ... did what thr1ce say fix it?03:41
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sizzamwhats up everyone03:42
DekaPinkVelcan: That's how I messed it in the first place... I don't know what to do with it. Heh... I should have just left that crap alone while I was ahead.03:42
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Velcaner actually03:43
Velcanit should have backit it up when you saved ...03:43
thr1ceDekaPink, you have to change your xorg.conf to use the driver03:43
Velcanlook for .xorg.conf03:43
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phziDekaPink: your running ubuntu right?03:44
DekaPinkphzi: Yes.03:44
phzithere's a command to automatically reconfigure it03:44
phzigive me a minute to remember03:44
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CompShrinkok, i have a stupd and i'm sure basic question03:44
thr1cesudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?03:44
thr1ceor something03:44
CompShrink*stupid03:44
phzithat's the one03:44
naliothDekaPink: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:44
Velcanphilips:  is it the command thr1ce was saying03:44
sizzamim having trouble finding gstreamer-mad in apt-get03:44
phziDekaPink: do that03:44
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jessejacksonhi03:44
DekaPinkThank you. :303:44
thr1cexserver-xorg*03:44
thr1cethanks nalioth03:44
phzifollow the directions (just select defaults for pretty much everythig)03:44
naliothsizzam: have all your repos enabled?03:45
sizzamnalioth:  i think so, and removed us.03:45
CompShrinkOk, I want to change this:  00:18:20:11 --> 00:18:23:10  into:  00:18:20,11 --> 00:18:23,10  several hundred times in a file03:45
naliothsizzam: then search for "gstreamer" and see what returns03:45
CompShrinka plaintext file03:45
sizzamnalioth:  i get a ton of stuff, but nothing with 'mad',  im trying to get mp3 to work with rhythmbox03:46
phziCompShrink: just one file?03:46
Danarsizzam, enable multiverse03:46
naliothsizzam: i know what you are after, hang on aminute03:46
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CompShrinkevery 4th line is a time stamp, which some program apparently put into the wrong format03:46
CompShrinkphzi, yes, 1 file03:46
naliothsizzam: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia03:47
CompShrinkwith 700 timestamps03:47
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Danarsizzam, synaptic > settings > repositories > add > check all. reload. install gstreamer0.8-mad03:47
sizzamthanks nalioth and danar03:47
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DekaPinkThat did the trick, all. Thank you. :D03:47
SudoPusNeed ifconfig syntax to specify ip/subnet/gateway?03:47
naliothDanar: if he doesnt have the repos in his sources.list, your method won't work03:48
regeyagentoo has one major problem:  I have nothing to fix, nothing to tweak at this moment.  I might have to actually clean my desk, or something.03:48
Danarnalioth, that would only happen if he removed them03:48
regeyaoops03:48
CompShrinkeither directly editing it, or there a way to make gedit think i'm hitting ctrl-f , ctrl-f, ctrl-r  several hundred times?03:48
regeyas/gentoo/ubuntu/03:48
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Danarnalioth, i'm on the livecd and it works for me03:48
DekaPinkI love my Ubuntu. :303:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth is there something wrong with the syntax of this command : sudo apt-get -f   ?03:49
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, you are missing a command03:49
regeyawait...I could tweak for better multimedia performance...or something.03:49
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth ok what might i be missing can you give an example?03:49
Danarregeya, or you could learn something... or contribute something... or... ;p03:50
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: if you are trying to fix the whole enchilada, type "sudo apt-get -f install"03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok i see where i went wrong ^_^ thanx man03:50
regeyaDanar: if you're annoyed by my elated banter, there's always /ignore.03:50
Danarregeya, not annoyed.03:51
regeyaDanar:  Sorry for being pleased with how well Ubuntu is put together. ;-)03:51
SudoPusOk folks...what file do I edit to be read to setup my nic? I know resolv.conf controls the nameserver(s) how about the actual settings stored for the nic?03:51
Danarregeya, _not_ annoyed.03:51
Danarnotice the ";p"03:51
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regeyaDanar:  Heh, sorry.  Just comparing the current experience to the last few systems I had used.  Very little time being spent on learning how things work merely to make things work. :-)  FYI, though, I've been learning about Ruby, which will label me a heretic in Ubuntu circles *runs*03:52
Go_pLasticanyone know what codecs i need to open .avi and .mpg files?03:52
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cmathesonis there any way to resize an ntfs partition? (i want to dual boot my parents computer... but it looks like parted is unable to do this)03:53
regeyaGo_pLastic, as far as .avi goes, it depends on what the avi's are that you're playing. avi is a container format. :-)03:53
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm it seems to be checking for this thing called pearl how to get?03:53
naliothGo_pLastic: w32codecs for avi and windows stuff03:53
Chrischanhi there03:53
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: its perl, and you should have it03:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYaccording to this it's missing some sorta modual03:54
Chrischanis there any free software for creating and mixing music like a good synthesizer, beatmachine and editor?!03:54
Danarregeya, lol03:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't know what it is cause it dosen't specifiy03:54
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regeyaGo_pLastic, just personal preference, but I'd start by installing totem-xine, but just 'coz I have better luck with windows formats (especially wmv) with xine03:54
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: well, find out "some sort of module" and install it with synaptic03:54
Danarwhat are /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1 & /dev/mapper/casper-cow ?03:54
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: it specifys, read the error msg03:55
regeyagstreamer-ffmpeg doesn't seem to like variable framerate in wmv, at least not yet03:55
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Danari've only seen them in ubuntu, and gparted says:03:55
Danardumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot103:55
DanarError: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk label.03:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it dosen't seriously it just says perl modual requierd for inltool03:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYand thats it03:55
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: so search synaptic for "perl" and see if you are missgin some03:56
Danaranyone?03:56
Danarsomething to do with the fact that i'm on the livecd maybe?03:56
ptloChrischan, there was at one time a roland beat machine emulator program (reborn), but it was put away after a legal threat by roland because it exactly copied look&feel of the beatmachine...but there are still copies lingering in the net so you might be able to find it. also, there's soundtracker, mod tracker similar to fasttracker03:56
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Chrischanptlo, thanks so far03:57
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ptloChrischan, for wave editing, look at audacity03:58
blmartin771hello03:58
Danarthe first is 2Gb ext2, the second is 1Gb unallocated03:58
blmartin771just in on a fresh first time ubuntu install03:58
Chrischanptlo, yep, but what i meant is compositing, but i guess its useful for that too, right?03:58
ColonelKernelis there any for for me to specifiy refresh rates for certain resolutions in X?03:59
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ColonelKernelI want to force 1024x768 to be 10003:59
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thr1ceColonelKernel, set it in xorg.conf03:59
naliothblmartin771: welcome03:59
{J}tatianaubuntu forums slow or dead?04:00
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ptloChrischan, dunno...a quick search turns out rosegarden: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/04:00
sizzamtatiana:  slow for me04:00
blmartin771thanks04:00
atevescan i get nautilus` listview with more than 1 column?04:00
blmartin771impressed so far04:01
Danaranyone have any idea why gparted would say it's unable to read the contents of the filesystems?04:01
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Chrischanptlo, sure thanks, ill better search the web more before asking here ;)04:01
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supernixHow do you handle spam in Kmail ?04:01
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Danarthere's a corrupt fat32 fs it's not bugging me about, but there's an ext2 and ext3 that are fine that it says it can't read04:01
supernixI have been trying to filters but it seems to be missing many things that have already been classified as spam by my host who uses spamassasin04:02
ptloChrischan, np, it's ok ;-)04:02
bimberiHi all, What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions? (I did ask earlier but got called away and any answer has scrolled off)04:02
ironmcI am looking for a video player,  I installed MPlayer but it locks up on me,  Totem seems very limited04:02
Danardumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdb404:02
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thr1cebimberi, just set it up by hand04:03
Danarironmc, xine04:03
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nalioths_dogbimberi: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically04:03
Danarironmc, or vlc. i prefer xine04:03
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bimberinalioths_dog: Many thanks04:03
ironmcDanar  Thanks I'll try that04:03
Danarcan anyone help me with partitions?04:03
bimberithr1ce: I know - but I thought I would try the script.04:04
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valtaricdo any of you people know a progrm that run windows based games better then Cedega?04:04
croutonhowdy folks04:04
nalioththr1ce: yes, seveas has made it easy04:04
naliothvaltaric: sure, Windows04:04
thr1cenalioth, neat :)04:04
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thr1cei've always found it easier04:04
valtariclol... something that rund on ubuntu.04:04
thr1cenope; cedega is it04:04
naliothvaltaric: have you seen qemu?04:04
ColonelKernelthr1ce, I seem to be having problems finding directions on how to do this online - best ive found is to be able to specify a single refresh rate for all resolutions but thats no better.04:05
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valtaricok than, if you have it have you encountered any problems running anything after the initcial install?04:05
Danarvaltaric, cedega or maybe a vm... having a prob?04:05
Chrischanptlo, did you mean freebirth probably?04:05
{J}tatianaare the ubuntu forums slow or dead?04:05
ColonelKernelIm looking for 1600x1200@75 1280x1024@85 1024x768@100 800x600@144 640x480@15004:05
valtarici installed it last night and i have been trying to get it to work but when ever i try to open a program nothing happens.04:05
VelcanI was finally able to nuke my windows cd today that i got WoW working with cedega :)04:05
croutonanybody know how to 'save' an ext3 partition that isn't mountable?04:06
Chrischanptlo, oh funny website ... http://www.bitmechanic.com/projects/freebirth/04:06
ColonelKernel:(( what kind of anus lists his domain linuxsucks.org04:06
Danarcrouton, fsck ?04:06
phzicrouton: dd04:06
naliothvaltaric: i dont use qemu, just know that it offers virtualization in almost real-time04:06
ptloChrischan, yeah, it seems like it was defaced04:06
ColonelKernelthats rotten, its free04:06
croutonDanar: Tried that.04:06
phzicrouton: dd to an image, using --sync04:06
croutonphzi: How so?04:06
croutonphzi: ah. i can try that.04:06
Danarvaltaric, run it from the commandline?04:06
thr1cei dont' think qemu will use vid drivers though...it's still emulation04:07
phzii'd suggest google, I can't explain the full function of dd ery well04:07
valtaricqemu? not sur what you mean i am new to ubuntu nad just learning.04:07
ptloChrischan, no, i didn't find freebirth...the project name was 'reborn'04:07
croutonphzi: Actually, i can't.. it's most of an 80gb disk.04:07
supernixHow do you run that script at boot time to make it work?04:07
supernixI have been having trouble getting my SATA drive to mount at boot time04:07
phzicrouton: you can save it gzipped, otherwise, I have no suggestions04:07
nalioththr1ce: qemu is a program the shares the processor with 2 OS simultaneously04:07
thr1cenalioth, yes04:07
nalioththr1ce: actually i think its a kernel module04:08
nalioththr1ce: i'm confuse at your mention of video drivers04:08
supernixHi everyone04:08
croutonphzi: thanks for the ideas.04:08
thr1cenalioth, i was under the impression qemu is an emulator, similar to vmware04:08
ptloChrischan, reborn looks like this: http://161.53.178.20/~senko/reborn.png04:08
phzicrouton: hope it might help04:09
croutonAny special fsck commands for ext3?04:09
nalioththr1ce: no, it is a kernel patch that gives every other cycle to whichever OS, i believe04:09
Chrischanptlo, i remember quite some time ago that i used this software once04:09
thr1cenalioth, hm...interesting; sorry then if I was incorrect =\04:09
Danarcan someone please help me with a partition/gparted problem?04:09
Hentainailoth they say its a enulator04:09
nalioththr1ce: better than an emulator04:09
croutonindeed04:09
VelcanAnyone ever messed around with dvd ripping via mencoder?04:10
thr1cenalioth, yes, but it won't use the the drivers will it?04:10
ptloChrischan, it's windows equivalent is called rebirth04:10
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macGuyhey04:10
nalioththr1ce: both OS' will use their own drivers04:10
HentaiQEMU is an emulator. It means that it converts each target CPU instruction into host instructions. Therefore, it emulates any supported target processor on any supported host processor.04:10
HentaiThe QEMU accelerator adds a virtualization layer to QEMU04:10
Hentaihttp://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/faq.html04:11
phzianyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?04:11
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phziI want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P04:11
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macGuyI have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed04:11
ptloChrischan, anyways, as i said the original author removed the program from its page, but you can google for: reborn tar.gz and you'll find it prepackaged; it just has gtk+ dependancies04:11
ColonelKernelok I turned of EDID frequencies but I still cant break the 85hz barrier04:11
biovoreanyone know of a traffic counter service?04:12
macGuyis there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work04:12
PlutoPrimeanyone knows a good "GUI" program for Mass renaming files of any type?04:12
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Chrischanptlo, thanks a lot04:12
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adwaithey ppl04:12
ptloChrischan, np04:12
PlutoPrimeI don't want to write a bash script for that04:12
biovorePlutoPrime04:12
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biovorePlutoPrime:bash is good at that kind of stuff.. gui suck at it..04:12
thr1ceColonelKernel, you could always make a new one with xorgconfig04:12
adwaitcan someone tell me if there is anyway to restart a router connected to the computer?04:12
Flightmani've got an Orinoco Chipset PCMCIA wireless card, and i don't quite know where to begin to add the drivers to my kernel04:12
thr1cehit the reset button on the router?04:12
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macGuyI have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed. is there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work. 2wire only supports windows, but i read in the forums about ndiswrapper. Is this what i should use?04:13
Hentaiwhats a 2wire pc port?04:13
nalioththr1ce: i'm looking forward to gettin my hands on a x86 compatible box, so i can test qemu04:13
Flightmanadwait: unplug/replug...the reset button will wipe all your settings04:13
PlutoPrimeit's true.. but I was hoping for a nice easy to use GUI04:13
macGuyits a homepna adapter04:13
HentaimacGuy whats a 2 wire pc port?04:13
thr1cenalioth, you on ppc now?04:13
Hentaioh04:13
ColonelKernelthr1ce, I dont think that would help, thats what set up the refresh rates I have now anyways04:13
Hentaiokk04:13
adwaitthr1ce: no....i meant with software, automatically.......problem is i get free downloads betwen 12-8,  i need to disconnect and reconnect to the net for tht04:13
macGuyit goes  usb to adapter to phon leine04:13
macGuyphone line*04:13
adwaiti dont wanna be up till 12 just to reconnect.....so is there a way to do this by software04:14
adwait?04:14
nalioththr1ce: i've been on PPC for over 3 years04:14
thr1ceadwait, hm...i'm not good with cron, but pretty sure you could set it up to bring eth down and back up at a given time04:14
Chrischanptlo, reborn-i386-1_0.tar.gz or is the a newer version?04:14
Flightmanadwait, usually there's an option in the router's web interface to reset it...a small script with a time to go off will prolly do the job04:14
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Danaranyone? i really need help here04:15
Danargparted says it can't read the file systems, so it can't do stuff..04:15
{J}tatianaDanar04:15
{J}tatianapm me the prob04:15
kbrooksi need to remove all the deps of kubuntu-desktop04:15
adwaitthr1ce: ifup wont restart  the router......the adsl link stays04:15
Flightmanhow do i go about adding a wireless card module to my kernel?04:15
kbrookshow do i do so04:16
naliothDanar: shut down parted and see what cfdisk says04:16
adwaitFlightman: there is an option in the web interface to restart it, but how do i activate that automatically?04:16
phzianyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?04:16
phziI want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P04:16
Danarand qtparted says Used Space: N/A04:16
kubuntu-livekbrooks: dpkg, awk, and apt-cache04:16
Flightmanadwait, you can probably write a small script that will run at a given time to go into your router's web interface and hit the reset button...04:16
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kbrookskubuntu-live, show me please04:17
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thr1cekbrooks, google is your friend04:17
Flightmanadwait, a simpler and really stupid way of fixing it would be to get a lamp timer from the hardware store, and set the on/off points really close together so it only powers the router down for a second ;)04:17
adwaitflightman: threre is a button in there which restarts it, how do u click a button with software..04:17
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{J}tatianaDanar if you're still stuck just pm me an i'll see what i can recommend.04:18
adwaitFlightman: hmm...i would do that, if its entirely impossible to work only with software04:18
kubuntu-livekbrooks: use apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop to get a list of packages. Use awk to parse the package entries. Use dpkg (well, aptitude is probably easier) to remove/purge those entries generated by awk's parsing.04:18
Danarnalioth, they don't show in cfdisk. i tried qtparted and it said they weren't cleanly unmounted04:18
naliothDanar: perhaps a restart?04:18
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naliothDanar: or an fsck?04:18
kbrookskubuntu-live, easy enough04:18
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Danarnalioth, fsck didn't work :/04:19
thr1cekbrooks, oh, thought you wanted a link to kubuntu live lol...sorry04:19
Flightmanadwait, the first method i described involves looking at the webpage code the router's web interface uses, and writing your own code to call that function at a given time...though it's simple if you can write code well (i can't, not the right code anyways) it's a serious endeavor if you're not willing to learn...04:19
naliothDanar: have you tried chrooting to the HD-based *nix?04:19
Danarbrb. restarting04:19
Danarnalioth, uh, no04:19
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Danarnalioth, can't now. ubuntu doesn't see those partitions anymore04:20
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adwaitFlightman: naah its ok.........i can learn :), i just looked at the code and its simple javascript.......ill take some time to completely read and understand it and then try writing the codr04:20
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naliothDanar: well then a restart will "cleanse the palate" as well as it will04:20
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adwaitbut another thing..the javascript is embedded in the webpage, its not a separate js file......so how do i call the function"04:20
Danarbrb04:20
adwait?04:20
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Flightmanadwait, cool...once you've got it written, set it up as a cronjob in linux to go off at a certain time and you should be all set04:21
Flightmanadwait, although, depending on how you value your time, the timer might be easier ;)04:21
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adwaitFlightman: i am a student, on vacations....how do u think i value my time ;)04:21
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Soki seriously need help04:21
Soklol04:21
joecoolSok: :)04:21
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croutonphzi: "dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/sda1/backup.file" look about right? Or should I pipe it to tar?04:22
kbrookskubuntu-live, do i set the selections?04:22
Sokhow do i configure my dsl modem to ubuntu...im a newbie to04:22
Soklol04:22
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kbrooksand install those selected?04:22
kubuntu-livekbrooks: I thought you wanted to remove them.04:23
kbrookskubuntu-live, i want to...04:23
Flightmanadwait, as someone in a similar position, it depends...you might wanna spend it coding, or you might wanna spend it gallavanting around outside ;)04:23
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kubuntu-livekbrooks: so why would you set any selections?04:23
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Sokhow do i set up a pppoe connection for my dsl modem?04:23
Flightmanadwait, i'm stuck in ohio for the summer, so i'm spending it thinking/coding...though i'd rather be chasing girls04:23
kbrookskubuntu-live, ok04:23
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kubuntu-liveFlightman: think & code first, chase girls when you retire04:24
sizzamwhats the easiest way to start a second console automatically at boot time so that i can use ctrl+alt+f7 an f8 to switch between them?04:24
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adwaitFlightman: hehe.......naah, well i go out with friends in the afternoons/evening and come back at night ......but i have the monrings to myself04:24
thr1ceadwait, get a job!04:24
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=== adwait just wrote an email to DLink......lets see if they can help
kubuntu-livesizzam: F1-F6 are already populated with gettys04:25
kbrookswhoa04:25
Soklol04:25
Hikaru79O_O;04:25
croutonnice netsplit04:25
joecoolNETSPLIT!!! WE ALL GONNA DIE!!04:25
youngcoderwtf04:25
Hikaru79youngcoder, way to go04:25
adwaitwtf04:25
adwait?04:25
joecoolactually.. lilo just needs more money04:25
dutchrelax !04:25
Hikaru79You broke the channel04:25
Sokso can anyone help me?04:25
joecool:P04:25
kbrookslol04:25
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Flightmanheh04:25
adwaitthr1ce: hmm..not very common around here for teenagers to get jobs.....if ur parents earn, ur set :)04:25
Hikaru79Good thing I fixed it04:25
Hikaru79You got lucky this time, youngcoder ;)04:25
youngcoder?04:25
sizzamkubuntu-live:  im looking for something like that which will already have x started for my wife (bigger noob than me)04:25
Flightmankubuntu-live, yea...it's hard to resist man, they've got the realultimatepower...04:25
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holycowany system builder types around? if you take the heat sink off the cpu and wish to remount it, is it mandatory that you need to replace the grey gooey stuff usually present in heatsinks?  (when ytou take a heatsink off the goo is usually missing/displaced) ?04:26
joecoolholycow: not really04:26
joecoolholycow: unless you don't have like any left04:26
thr1ceyes it is04:26
kubuntu-livethermal paste is _highly_ recommended04:26
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thr1cethermal paste is important04:26
sizzamespecially on an amd04:26
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valtarici need some help getting Cedega to work on my Ubuntu system04:26
holycowit is? this is an amd cpu yes04:26
holycowokay04:27
sizzamthey run hot04:27
Flightmanholycow, YES...if you value your processor and want to be 100% sure that it'll survive, clean both the processor and heatsink with rubbing alcohol and polish to a shine...then find some more thermal paste to put on it before reinstalling04:27
holycowah!04:27
holycowokay thanks04:27
kubuntu-liveunless, of course, you don't mind your cpu overheating. Who needs a properly-cooled cpu anyhow?!04:27
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Flightmanhaha04:27
youngcoderHikaru79, what u mean?04:27
Flightmani love it when MY system locks up...04:27
Hikaru79youngcoder, I was joking, just joking ^ ^;04:27
adwaitim gonna go ppl.......04:27
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holycowjust checking if metal to metal contact was enough04:27
adwaitbbye and thx Flightman04:27
ale_Hello, do I need LVM to run a desktop?04:27
Flightmanadwait, no probs man, good luck04:27
ColonelKernelcan anyone please help me force higher refresh rates? I used gtf to generate modelines but they dont seem to be working.04:27
youngcoderoh i had to scroll up lmao04:27
adwaitale_: no......LVM = a new kind of partiotioning04:27
holycowappearently, i need to study up on my laws of thermodynamics04:27
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TincHi need help getting sound04:27
adwait!LVM04:27
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, adwait04:27
kubuntu-liveale_: it's not required, no04:27
holycowthanks dudes04:28
ColonelKernelhttp://pastebin.com/31097004:28
kubuntu-liveTincH: shoot04:28
ColonelKernelthats my xorg.conf04:28
youngcoderwhat caused all that?04:28
ale_adwait, kubuntu-live: thanks!04:28
adwaitnp04:28
Flightmanso, can anyone help me solve my wireless PC Card woes!? Orinoco chipset, not seen by my fresh install of ubuntu, how do i compile a kernel module for it?04:28
kubuntu-liveyw04:28
valtarici need help getting cedega to run properly.04:28
TincHok a have a crystal cx423504:28
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TincHi been toul to run alsaconf04:28
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TincHbut i can find it04:29
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kubuntu-liveTincH: Ubuntu does not ship with alsaconf. Try: sudo modprobe snd_cs423504:29
Hikaru79youngcoder, it's called a netsplit, and it happens when one of the servers in an IRC network is disconnected from the rest. All the people on that server are literally "split" from the main network04:29
valtariccna anyone help me?04:29
joecoolso.. anyone know howto  set up a friggin pppoe connection here?04:29
joecoolanyone? anyone at all?04:29
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ColonelKernelno luck yet04:30
joecoolwould seem like a pretty basic thing.. i'd expect around 15%-20% of you would have to do it04:30
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youngcoderHikaru79, thanks i have enver een tha before :)04:30
TincH modprobe snd_cs423504:30
TincHi get this04:30
TincHsory04:30
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TincHFATAL: Module snd_cs4235 not found.04:30
kubuntu-liveTincH: please use the pastebin noted in the topic04:30
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joecoolhmm.. i've found a channel more annoying then #gentoo.. awesome!04:30
kubuntu-livejoecool: did you try searching the Ubuntu wiki, forum, and mailing list archives?04:31
valtariccan anyone help me with04:31
TincHsory04:31
valtaricCedega??04:31
TincHi says it cant find the module04:31
kubuntu-livevaltaric: there's a nice channel on this network devoted to it: #cedega04:31
valtaricthakns04:31
joecoolkubuntu-live: not really.. then again i'm a gentoo user.. got a friend settin up an ubuntu install and I really can't help him, but I AM good at getting people's attention04:32
KarlosIIjoecool, if you think ubuntu or gentoo is annoying which I consider them friendly, then you need to visit #debian04:32
joecoolkubuntu-live: he has searched the forums04:32
Moppinvaltaric, Have you seen this page? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu04:32
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joecoolKarlosII: oh god yeah.. #debian are all elitist bastards in there.. the good thing is you get quick responses as well as insults04:32
joecoolKarlosII: back in the day my channel was a like a flooding base for #debian :)04:32
kubuntu-liveTincH: sorry, try snd_cs4232 or snd_cs423604:33
KarlosIIheh04:33
TincHa ok04:33
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kubuntu-liveTincH: you probably want the latter (snd_cs4236)04:33
lxuser_onedistro to rule them all04:33
joecoolKarlosII: yeah.. but you guys have the ricer sort of a craze that gentoo has.. so thats why its not so great in here..04:33
TincHyes i did that04:33
TincHwhat now?04:33
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kubuntu-liveTincH: did it return to a prompt immediately without error?04:34
=== Flightman needs to know how to get linux to recognize his wireless card...
ubuntuistwhy arent there any more naked persons in the new version ?04:34
TincHyes04:34
kubuntu-liveTincH: ok, now please paste the output from amixer onto the topic's pastebin04:35
kubuntu-liveubuntuist: mmkay, got an actual relevant, on-topic question? :)04:35
ubuntuisti too feel naked wareing linux :-)04:36
naliothkubuntu-live: isnt ubuntu-calendare a revelent subject?04:37
jtan325does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?04:37
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kubuntu-livenalioth: sure, it can be. I'm just a bit primed from the earlier spamming.04:37
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naliothkubuntu-live: o k04:38
Flightmankubuntu-live, think you might be able to help me out configuring my wireless card?04:38
fatfreeporkwhats the first step to setting up a webserver?04:38
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fatfreeporkafter getting php, apache, and mysql04:38
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kubuntu-liveFlightman: I can try, but wifi isn't really my cup of tea. Have you followed the general hints regarding your wifi chipset?04:38
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ubuntuisttheres no weekly distrowatch page has of yet !04:39
ubuntuistmabey hes on holidays04:39
Flightmankubuntu-live, supposedly my chipset's been part of the kernel since 2.4, i just dunno how to make the kernel see the card04:40
croutonargh04:40
kubuntu-liveFlightman: which chipset or card?04:40
Flightmankubuntu-live, it's a 2Wire 802.11b pcmcia card, but it's an orinoco chipset...so it should be easy...SHOULD04:41
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ubuntuist_Burrito_, is here04:42
zenlunaticdo drivers have man pages?04:42
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_Burrito_hi04:42
kubuntu-livezenlunatic: generally no, but they have documentation (READMEs, etc.)04:42
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_Burrito_does anybody use the xfce desktop?04:42
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kubuntu-liveI use it infrequently these days due to lack of hardware.04:43
kubuntu-liveit's quite slick, though04:43
qt2anyone know much about vnc?04:43
ubuntuistdont you think ubuntu ratings on distrowatch are from the same person clicking over and over again ?04:43
_Burrito_i close the taskbar,  and i dont know whath to do about it04:44
_Burrito_can anybody help out?04:44
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kubuntu-live_Burrito_: along the bottom of the screen? You can open a terminal and execute xfdesktop04:45
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youngcoderhmm04:46
ubuntuistnice04:46
youngcoderthats getting annoying04:46
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Computer__Guruwhat is?04:46
ubuntuisti think its the cops04:46
kubuntu-livejust set your irc client (you _are_ using irssi-text, correct? :-) to ignore joins and quits04:46
youngcoderthe netsplits04:46
nate__hey, how do you unzip all the files in a directory?04:47
ubuntuisttheyr cracking up the servers04:47
ubuntuistwith bots04:47
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youngcoderkubuntu-live, what is command to do that>?04:47
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kubuntu-livesomething like: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done04:47
nate__thanks04:48
TincHhow do i turn on volumen amixer04:48
kubuntu-liveyoungcoder: /help ignore :)04:48
kubuntu-liveTincH: see privmsg04:48
trevor_thanks TincH04:48
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croutonanyone accomplished in saving an ext3 partition?04:48
trevor_lost it in the listed cache search04:48
Computer__Guruby saving you mean what?04:49
croutonit's not mountable - bad journal.04:49
Computer__Guruyou tried fsck'ing it?04:49
croutoner, bad superblock04:49
croutonoh yes.04:49
phzianyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?04:49
phziI want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P04:49
ubuntuistcrouton are you using ubuntu ?04:49
croutonubuntuist: yes.04:49
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Computer__Gurui dunno beyond fsck, sorry04:50
crouton" Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /" is the return from e2fsck04:50
ubuntuisti use reiserfs04:50
ubuntuistnever gave me any troubles so far04:50
croutonthis is a separate drive, not where ubuntu is installed.04:50
croutonwell, this only happened because the power went out..04:50
ubuntuistget an ups :-)04:51
croutonpower's gone out 5 times in 2-3 weeks, ups is drained.04:51
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phzicrouton:04:51
ubuntuistLOL04:51
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phzihow long ago was the filesystem created?04:51
ubuntuistcrouton, is full of it04:51
croutonphzi: today04:52
joecoolubuntu supports .deb right?04:52
trevor_hmm no luck with unrar-nonfree04:52
phzioh really? did you write down the backup superblock nodes?04:52
phzior didn't bother?04:52
croutonphzi: I didn't, but supposedly dumpe2fs can show information.04:52
phzik04:52
phziyou used defaults right?04:52
croutonyes.04:52
joecooli can't be lagging this bad.. its a simple friggin question04:52
joecoolubuntu supports .deb right? (yes/no?)04:53
croutonjoecool: yes, dpkg.04:53
kubuntu-livejoecool: it's based on Debian, so yes.04:53
phziyou can do it wit DD04:53
Computer__Gurutrevor: rar/unrar are int he multiverse04:53
joecooli figured, thanks04:53
phzithere is no other way04:53
phzihttp://edseek.com/archives/2004/02/25/ext3-filesystem-bad-superblock-recovery/04:53
youngcoderi heard that Ubuntu is soon to release a version with support for file/folder encryption.. anyone heard about this or know about it?04:53
croutonphzi: Yeah, I'm tryin to find a filesystem to copy the file to.04:53
phziotherwise, can you get the superblock locations?04:53
phziyou said something about that04:54
croutonyeah, lemme read the output04:54
jtan325does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?04:54
phzi/sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda104:54
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cmathesonjtan325: i use aterm04:54
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jtan325cmatheson, is it 1.0.0?04:55
cmathesonjtan325: oh, no it's just the standard ubuntu version (who would have thought it was only at .4...)04:55
jtan325hmmm yeah04:55
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phzicrouton: /sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda104:55
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jtan325i just compiled and installed 1.0.004:55
cmathesonjtan325: what's up w/ 1.0?04:55
jtan325trying to get the borderless option to work04:55
jtan325but it doesn't seem to work04:55
croutonphzi: Yeah, I'm trying, all the backup superblocks are coming up with the same ' Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /' error.04:55
jtan325and when i look at the man pages04:55
cmathesonjtan325: oh... i don't really seem to have a border on openbox (but that's not due to aterm)04:56
youngcoderanyone know of an add-on package that will encrypt folders?04:56
NeoGeo64help i just installed the i686 kernel and no longer need to use the i386 one.  how do i get rid of it and remove it from grub04:56
jtan325cmatheson, i am using openbox too04:56
jtan325awesome04:56
jtan325cmatheson, so what i mean by border is the decor04:56
jtan325is that something i specify in rc.xml or something?04:56
cmathesonjtan325: ooooh04:57
jtan325i would like to turn off the decor by default for aterm04:57
NeoGeo64does anyone know04:57
cmathesonjtan325: hmmm, it seems like there probably is a way... there was a blackbox tool that used to work w/ openbox that would configure these kinds of things, but it may not work anymore since ob3 is no longer based on the bb code04:57
jtan325NeoGeo64, you could start browsing /boot/grub04:57
jtan325yeah04:58
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NeoGeo64ok04:58
jtan325cmatheson, so your aterms always have decor?04:58
regeyanautilus needs something equivalent to finder's folder actions.04:58
cmathesonjtan325: yeah, sorry, i thought your were just talking about how in metacity there is an ugly like 3-pixel border going around everything (whereas in ob there's not anything but the resize-bar/title-bar)04:58
regeyaI wish I were kidding.04:58
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jtan325hmmm yeah04:59
cmathesonjtan325: there's a windowmanager called ratpoison (it's anti-mouse) that doesn't have any kind of window decorations04:59
croutonphzi: all the backup superblocks have the same error.04:59
jtan325cmatheson, i've heardof that... not looking to go that exterme lol05:00
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trevor_Computer__Guru: Whats multiverse?05:00
Computer__Gurutomorrow sometime ill be watching hhgttg05:00
Computer__Gurutrevor_: lemme get the sources you need to add05:00
trevor_Oh ok :)05:00
cmathesonjtan325: hehe05:00
benxorcan someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?05:01
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trevor_coming from gentoo, this is odd...05:01
cmathesontrevor_: it's the non-free crap (free as in speech)05:01
jtan325cmatheson, "-bl number  This option specifies that aterm should askwindow manager to not have a border around terms window; resource borderLess"05:01
trevor_everything just works by default05:01
dikadikai'm having trouble installing ubuntu, it gets to the portion where it attempts to install the kernel and then stops (79 percent when installing the base system) and after about 40 mins gives an error message... anyone seen this before?05:01
cmathesonjtan325: oh good call... it doesn't work though?05:01
jtan325cmatheson, well i am trying all sorts of numbers05:01
jtan325doesn't seem to wrok05:01
jtan325work05:01
dikadikai dont have the error msg written down, but i'm waiting for it to throw the error again05:01
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Computer__Gurudeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse05:01
Computer__Gurudeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse05:01
Computer__Gurudeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse05:01
Computer__Gurudeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse05:01
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Computer__Guruadd those to sources.list, and sudo apt-get update05:02
trevor_ok05:02
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Computer__Guruthen sudo apt-get install rar unrar05:02
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cmathesonjtan325: try the cvs version of openbox (i loaded it on my computer because i'm trying to write some "bling bling" patches and other stuff for ob... anyway it seems a lot radder~pango font rendering (so multi-lingual support is finally avaliable)and some other good stuff05:02
cmathesonjtan325: could be a bug w/ ob... try another windowmanager to test it first maybe?05:02
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Computer__Guruspeaking of bling bling05:02
Computer__Gurugo rate my desktop05:02
jtan325cmatheson, yeah i was going to switch to fluxbox qucikly, once my bittorrents finished05:02
benxorcan someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?05:03
Computer__Guruhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2628305:03
SudoPusnalioth: I was told you are running PPC? I have a dual G4..which smp kernel to choose? linux_image_2.6<blah> or just the linux_image_smp?05:03
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cmathesonjtan325: oh ok.  what's fluxbox doing these days?  i liked it back in the day, but the tabs seem less relevant lately (since everything has it natively), and the lack of xft rendering kills me)05:03
valtaricdoes anyone know were i can aget a copy of mplayer.deb?05:03
jtan325cmatheson, i was 100% fluxbox-crazy for the past week05:04
cmathesonvaltaric: it's in multiverse05:04
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Computer__Guruvaltaric: do this05:04
WSI'm having tons of trouble trying to install a version of ffmpeg that encodes things in PSP format05:04
cmathesonjtan325: oh rad~what's it doing that ob isn't?05:04
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WSdo any of you gurus think you can help me on this?05:04
Computer__Guruvaltaric: apt-get build-dep mplayer-68605:04
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Computer__Guruvaltaric: when that is done,05:04
jtan325cmatheson, well it was primarily because the documentation seemed more extensive, and there were more people using it...  you know, easier to get my foot through the door with a new wm05:04
Computer__Guruvaltaric: apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts05:04
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WSa guy has a page with some debs that he made for ubuntu forums, but they need newer packages than I have etc.05:04
Computer__Guruoh you'll want to sudo both of those05:04
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cmathesonjtan325: oh yeah, openbox's docs aren't very extensive... the source code is clean but i swear it has no comments... it's the most frustrating thing ever!05:05
jtan325cmatheson, but then i found the whole "slit" and taskbar somewhat annoying05:05
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Ayzaxhey05:05
jtan325cmatheson, so i switched over a few days ago, using pypanel and gdesklets to put together something quite nice :-)05:06
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Computer__Gurumplayer is in the universe, you just have to build deps for it first :)05:06
jtan325cmatheson, and the memory consumption is miniscule too!05:06
cmathesonyay!05:06
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jtan325cmatheson, what do you use "in addition" to openbox?05:06
WSanyone have ffmpeg experience?05:06
valtaricok i got the two of thoes but i don't know how to build a deps...05:07
jtan325cmatheson, more like, what other programs play well with ob that you use?05:07
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cmathesonjtan325: i'm actually just a big fan of straight up ob... i do use gkrellm for my system monitoring though, and the windowmaker dockapp called 'docker' (it holds all the system-tray mini-icons from gnome/kde)~that pretty much gives me everything i need05:07
TincHhave no sound please help05:07
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Computer__Gurusudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-68605:07
Computer__Guruthat's how you build the deps05:07
Computer__Guruthen05:07
cmathesonjtan325: i have my friend using openbox w/ fbpanel and the 'rox' file manager05:07
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts05:08
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Computer__Guruand you're done05:08
Ayzaxquit05:08
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cmathesonTincH: you're going to need to be a whole lot more descriptive...05:08
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jtan325cmatheson, i was using docker before i discovered pypanel. how do you manage to keep track of all your windows without a panel?05:08
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jtan325ALT+TAB?05:08
valtaricit is saying it couldn;t find the package.05:08
valtaricmplayer 68605:08
Computer__Guruvaltaric: in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment anything that ends with universe05:09
Computer__Guruvaltaric: then, save the file and do: sudo apt-get update05:09
jtan325TincH, read the ubuntu guide, section on "sound"05:09
Computer__Guruthen try them again05:09
jtan325!ubuntuguide05:09
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines05:09
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ColonelKernelhooray for me , i got it05:09
TincHok05:09
ColonelKernel100hz in games now, life it good05:09
jtan325well the instructions in ubuntu guide worked for me05:09
valtaricwhen i try the /etc/apt/sources.list05:11
valtaric it says permission denied05:11
jtan325valtaric, put a "sudo' in front of the command05:11
Computer__Gurusudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list05:11
kubuntu-livethe cs4xxxx sound drivers are a bit wonky05:11
Computer__Guruthen05:11
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get update05:11
Computer__Guruthen05:11
Computer__Gurusudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-68605:11
Computer__Guruthen sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts05:11
Computer__Guruthen enjoy mplayer :)05:12
WSbuild-dep05:12
WSis there a way to do that with dpkg?05:12
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Computer__Gurui dont know, that's a good question05:12
WShttp://tube013.org/?p=317 ...if you could look at that for me and and see if you could help me05:12
nalioth_zZzWS: not to my knowledge05:12
WSI'd greatly appreciate it05:12
Computer__Guruif you could enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without installing it, i dont see why you wouldn't be able to apt-get build-dep05:12
WSI need to install those deb files but having tons of problems05:12
jtan325cmatheson, so how do you manage your windows? alt+tab?05:12
nalioth_zZzws what are you build-depping?05:12
WSffmpeg with PSP encoding support05:13
WSaka faac05:13
nalioth_zZzWS: and sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-blah doesnt work?05:13
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Computer__Guruis there a way to enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without actually installing it?05:13
CrutonmanHey there05:14
Computer__Gurucause if there is, that would solve your problem05:14
cmathesonjtan325: yeah, i try to split it up into desktops... one for 'net' one for 'devel' one for 'misc' one for my terminals, etc... that way i only have a few windows on each desktop and switching w/ alt-tab or whatever isn't a big deal.  (plus it's all by functionality so knowing w/ workspace i need isn't hard to remember either)05:14
CrutonmanHow does one go about disabling Gnome from using the sound system?05:14
CrutonmanI need to unlock it so Cedega can hand it off to CS: Source05:14
jtan325cmatheson, wish i could do that05:14
Computer__Gurucmatheson: I do the same in KDE.. Workspace, Internet, Multimedia, Shells, Messengers, Miscellaneous05:14
cmathesonCrutonman: you can just run 'esdctl standby' (you may need to install the esd-client package or something like that)05:14
jtan325cmatheson, i can never get the hang of workspaces05:14
jtan325oh well05:14
Crutonmancmatheson, do you use cedega yourself?05:15
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cmathesonjtan325: it's not too bad... just use your mouse wheel to scroll, or ctrl+alt+arrow keys (alternatively i have configured my bindings to use alt+f1=workspace 1 alt+f2=workspace2 etc.)05:15
Computer__Guruwow i hope i can keep this speed up, if i can hhgttg is gonna be done in time to watch it tonight \:D/05:15
jtan325cmatheson, yeah, i had that going in fluxbox for a bit05:15
jtan325cmatheson, how do you get programs to start when you login05:16
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cmathesonCrutonman: no... i don't really play games, but it's just esound tying up your /dev/dsp05:16
jtan325cmatheson, i hacked a workaround to get it to work, because apparently .xsession is NOT the answer05:16
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cmathesonjtan325: just add it to your ~/.xsession (.xinitrc?) and then choose 'system default' from the gdm sessions menu05:17
cmathesonjtan325: did you make it executable?05:17
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ws_sorry05:17
jtan325cmatheson, yea...05:17
cmathesonjtan325: it may be .xinitrc (i have a symlink to .xsession from my .xinitrc file)05:17
ws_nalioth_zZz ws what are you build-depping?05:17
ws_WS ffmpeg with PSP encoding support05:17
ws_WS aka faac05:17
ws_WS y:P05:17
ws_WS ;P*05:17
ws_WS am I still here05:17
ws_* Disconnected ().05:17
Crutonmancmatheson: This "esd-client" package does not seem to exist in my resositories, do you know if its under another name? I tried an apt-cache search on esd but found nothing similar to what you said05:17
Computer__Guruvaltaric: is everything going according to plan over there?05:17
jtan325cmatheson, when i used .xinitrc and started X using "startx" it worked fine05:17
cmathesonCrutonman: hold on05:17
Computer__GuruCrutonman: esound05:17
kubuntu-liveCrutonman: esd-clients, not esd-client05:17
kubuntu-liveesound-clients05:18
cmathesonoh yeah, that's it05:18
jtan325but hmmm i gotta see whether there was an option for "default" on gdm login.05:18
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Computer__Guru;)05:18
cmathesonjtan325: yeah, otherwise it will just load the openbox wm and ignore your xsession file05:18
CrutonmanThat did not seem to fix the problem05:19
CrutonmanIt is still telling me that it is in use05:19
jtan325cmatheson, yeah that was exactly what was happening05:19
jtan325cmatheson, i did a hackerish sorta thing though... you know how you can select "openbox" from gdm login?05:19
cmathesonjtan325: yeah?05:19
cmathesonCrutonman: you ran 'esdctl standby'?05:20
jtan325well, i made a script 'startopenbox', put it in /usr/bin, and that's what actually gets executed if you choose the openbox option05:20
jtan325and the script will check if there is a startup file in ~/.config/openbox05:20
cmathesonjtan325: oooh, not bad (although stuff you make yourself should probably be put in /usr/local/bin05:20
cmathesonrad05:20
jtan325if there is, then execute that script with "exec"05:20
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jtan325cmatheson, this was inspired by fluxbox's model05:20
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jtan325because for the life of me, no one in this channel knew how to make gdm use .xsession05:21
jtan325so i had to take matters into my own hands :-)05:21
nalioth_zZzjtan325: yes, things you install should go in /usr/local/05:21
Computer__Gurui hope you brought a tissue along05:21
Crutonmancmatheson: Yes, and no errors05:21
Computer__Guruprotein stains are hard to get out of clothes :>05:21
Kyralhow do I build a package after downloading the source with apt?05:21
cmathesonCrutonman: try 'killall esd' and then do it05:21
cmathesoner, and then run your cedega stuff05:22
Computer__Gurutry killall -9 esd05:22
nalioth_zZzKyral: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"05:22
Kyralfigured it out anyway :P05:22
nalioth_zZzKyral: then "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"05:23
Kyralyah05:23
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nalioth_zZzKyral: then "sudo dpkg - <builtpkg.deb>"05:23
Computer__Guruyou mean sudo dpkg -i package.deb05:23
jtan325cmatheson, how stable is the CVS openbox05:23
kubuntu-livejtan325: gdm will execute ~/.xsession if you choose Default [System...] 05:23
jtan325haha yeah05:24
kubuntu-livekdm does the same thing05:24
jtan325after two days of searching05:24
BeatYouhttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1835551,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K000059405:24
jtan325finally get like 3 people who know the answer :-)05:24
BeatYouis there a patcy for zlip on the repos ?05:24
BeatYoupatch*05:24
nalioth_zZzComputer__Guru: please preface users nicks when you address them (makes it a lot easier on everyone)05:25
cmathesonjtan325: i haven't had any problems at all yet05:25
nalioth_zZzComputer__Guru: and kyral knows what i mean05:25
jtan325cmatheson, what is the cvs version?05:25
CrutonmanThat killall -9 esd worked?05:25
Crutonmanerr change the ? to a .05:25
jtan325cmatheson, and what kind of patches are you doing?05:25
CrutonmanIs there a way anyone knows of to not have to do that everytime I start the game though?05:25
KyralComputer__Guru, I actually have it set to "dpkgI"05:25
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Computer__Guruheh05:26
cmathesonjtan325: i'm actually working on righting my own patches right now (none are done yet... the source-code is really sucky to hack because of the lack of commments)05:26
=== Computer__Guru wonders how valtaric is doing over there with mplayer
CrutonmanAnd on a side note, how do I force quit the force quit window05:26
cmathesonCrutonman: you could make an esd.conf so that it autosleeps after 30 seconds of no activity or whatever05:26
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cmathesonCrutonman: read the docs... i can't remember how to do it05:26
cmathesonjtan325: cvs is just the development version... the openbox.org has instructions on how to get it05:27
Crutonmancmatheson: Are these docs under man esd? I'm not really sure what i've done let alone where to look for documentation05:27
Computer__Gurumy god, man, what have you done?!?05:27
Computer__Guru:D05:27
Crutonmanlol05:27
bonnyhow do you restart esd05:27
bonny?05:27
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phzikillall esd05:27
phziesd05:27
phzilol05:28
Computer__Gurubonny: sudo killall -9 esd && sudo esd &05:28
jtan325cmatheson, i am a comp. sci. student, maybe openbox can provide me with something to do on weekends :-)05:28
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Computer__Gurudoesnt esd have an init.d scrtipt?05:28
CrutonmanAnd I really need to figure out how to force quit the force quit window05:28
CrutonmanIts just sitting there on top of everything05:28
CrutonmanWith no way to close it05:28
KptnKrillHi, I'm stuck in console after a borked upgrade to breezy badger.05:28
Computer__Guruask your questions int he channel, please. do not pm me05:29
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KptnKrillCan someone point me to a url were I can fetch the breezy badger iso?05:29
cmathesonjtan325: haha, yeah that's what i'm looking for05:29
KyralKptnKrill, your problem was upgrading to Breezy now05:29
KptnKrillI'm without apt, and without a text-based browser :|05:29
KptnKrilloh :|05:29
cmathesonjtan325: i start school in fall... hopefully i'll be able to start taking some cs classes05:29
KptnKrillwhat happened to breezy?05:29
KyralBreezy != Stable now05:29
CrutonmanIt blew away05:29
KptnKrillI know that.05:29
CrutonmanWhen hurricane dennis came05:29
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nalioth_zZzKyral: for today, you mean?05:30
ws_Computer__Guru, have any advice on how I could get the cvs install of ffmeg to work with faac support?05:30
KyralBreezy == Stable in October :D05:30
KptnKrillSo?05:30
Kyralnalioth_zZz, I meant for general use05:30
nalioth_zZzws_: where did you go?05:30
KptnKrillwhat's your point, stable or not, it should still work.05:30
cmathesonCrutonman: yeah, it's just man esd05:30
KptnKrillI'm not a general user...05:30
Crutonmancmatheson: Thanks05:30
ws_sorry I got disconnected not sure how05:30
Computer__Guruws_: was that english? heh, no clue man.. i just sorta manage to hack myw ay through all of this05:30
KptnKrillI'm simply looking for the url.05:30
ws_there we go05:30
bonnywhat is the "-9" into killall -9 esd ?05:30
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CrutonmanIs there some kind of task manager equivelant for linux?05:30
Crutonmanreally need to kill off this window here05:30
crimsunthere are many equivalents05:30
nalioth_zZzws_: you need libfaad, libfaac, and then you need to get into the mplayer source dir05:30
KptnKrillxkill05:31
WSCrutonman, qps05:31
KyralCrutonman, System monitor05:31
Computer__Gurukill -9 is explicit. if it's tuck or zombied, it will die unconditionally05:31
cmathesonbonny: that forces it to die (it's messy)05:31
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cmathesonbonny: normally you shouldn't need that05:31
nalioth_zZzWS: and type ./configure --help     and enable all the codecs you want it to play05:31
WSto encode stuff?05:31
cmathesonCrutonman: you could use xkill05:31
WSnot decode05:31
bonnyok thank05:31
WSI want to end up encoding PSP stuff05:31
WSffmpegX and pspvideo9 are OSX and windows versions of ffmpeg that support it05:32
WSI'm having hell with it in linux05:32
CrutonmanI will be right back. Im just going to switch down to init 1 and back05:32
CrutonmanThat should fix it05:32
nalioth_zZzWS: the ./configure --help will show you how to enable everything05:32
WSahh05:32
WSsec..05:32
nalioth_zZzWS: but you need the codec libs installed b4 you compile mplayer05:32
nalioth_zZzWS: for the file formats you are gonna work with05:33
WShave tons of them05:33
WSall of them05:33
WS:P05:33
BeatYouirc-hybrid can be linked to multiple servers right ?05:33
nalioth_zZzWS: well, you have your answer. have fun05:33
BeatYouircd-hybrid*05:33
WSmk :P05:33
WSI'll give it a shot05:34
WSthanks05:34
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KyralDavey, use Beep Media Player05:34
WSbeep is great05:34
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nalioth_zZzKyral: his music is encrypted05:34
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Kyraloh05:34
cafuegonalioth_zZz: Then he should remove the encryption first.05:34
Kyralthats a stupid thing to do...05:34
crimsunDavey: you can. I use libfaad after using JHymn on the files.05:34
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DaveyJHymn?05:35
nalioth_zZzcafuego: yes, but i was not gonna say that in here05:35
cafuegonalioth_zZz: DVD Jon broke it in like 30 minutes or something :-)05:35
crimsunDavey: yup.05:35
Daveycrimsun: where can I get that?05:35
crimsun(google)05:35
cafuegonalioth_zZz: There's a subtle difference between technically illegal and morally correct05:35
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nalioth_zZzcafuego: i know lots of things that i don't talk about in here05:35
cafuegonalioth_zZz: This one time, at band camp... ;-)05:36
cafuegonalioth_zZz: Still, telling someone it's possibly and referring them to google isn't a problem I reckon.05:36
cafuegoAnd if it is, it shopuldn't be05:36
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nalioth_zZzDavey: should you find one day, that your files have been freed, libfaad will be required for aac/mp4 files, i believe05:37
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Daveycrimsun: theres no linux build that I can see :/05:37
nalioth_zZzcafuego: well, in that case.. .. ..(i'll keep that in mind)05:37
KptnKrillcan someone please point me to the url of an iso05:37
crimsunDavey: (Java)05:37
KptnKrillat this point any iso will do05:37
KptnKrillubuntu, gentoo, I dun care any more.05:37
crimsunKptnKrill: click the download link05:38
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KptnKrillcrimsun: no browser05:38
KptnKrilland a borked05:38
KptnKrillapt-get05:38
crimsunyou have links05:38
GigaClonwhat do I need to enable mp3 support05:38
GigaCloni have xmms05:38
KptnKrillI don't have links05:38
crimsunGigaClon: gstreamer0.8-mad05:38
KptnKrillI need a url.05:38
KptnKrillI have wget.05:38
crimsunKptnKrill: are you using Breezy?05:38
cafuegoKptnKrill: Any url?05:38
Razor-Xback05:39
KptnKrillany that points to an iso :)05:39
crimsunKptnKrill: use w3m05:39
KptnKrillcan't...05:39
KptnKrillI have a borked apt-get...05:39
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KptnKrillyou don't seem to be understanding...05:39
Razor-Xcrimsun: in emacs ;)05:39
crimsunKptnKrill: w3m is installed by default05:39
sizzamwhats the easiest way to find the distro name and version you are running?05:39
KptnKrillI don't have w3m... I stripped out the garbage after I installed.05:39
KptnKrillplease.  I'm only asking for a url :|05:40
KptnKrillIf there were anyother solution I'd have taken it by now05:40
GigaClonKptnKrill: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso05:40
KptnKrillthank you so much :D05:40
KptnKrillyou're my hero :D05:40
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cmathesonanyone ever dual-booted a win2000 box w/ linux?05:41
crimsunnext time, don't strip out "garbage" like a cli web browser05:41
KptnKrillwell I thought that links was installed :|05:41
sizzamlynx?05:41
KptnKrillyah, lynx rather.05:41
crimsuncmatheson: a while ago, yes.05:41
cafuegocmatheson: Yes, it's trivial. Check the LilONT Dual boot howto.05:42
cafuegoLILO/NT05:42
cafuegoYou can also wipe the wibndows boot sector and just use grub.05:42
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holycowwow, inkscape isn't half bad05:42
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cafuegoholycow: wholly bad? ;-)05:43
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holycowyou guys are a bunch of demanding primadonas :)05:43
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jtan325cmatheson, it didn't work in fluxbox05:44
WSwhen you dpkg -i something how do you force it?05:45
crimsunsee the --force* options. Caveat: don't use any unless deathly necessary.05:45
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cafuegoWS: dpkg -i --force[option]  - see dpkg -force-help05:46
WSmk05:46
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WSi need a different version of ffmpeg to work... but it isnt compiling right05:46
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cmathesoncafuego: i'll check that out... any idea why it would kind of 'freeze up' at the initial grub stage 1.5 line though?05:47
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valtariccomputer guru are you still there?05:48
cmathesonjtan325: oh that's too bad... maybe aterm's still gotta bug?05:48
Razor-Xanyone wanna see a screenshot of my desktop?05:48
sizzamsure05:48
Razor-Xhttp://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/snapshot5.png05:49
Razor-Xthat there is _technically_ not a desktop, but the desktop I use ;)05:49
valtarichey can anyone help me get mplayer into a .deb file?05:49
crimsunvaltaric: the version in multiverse doesn't work for you?05:49
sizzamrazor-x:  do you see any lag during boot time using eterm?05:49
zenlunaticRazor-X: why do you use opera? its not free software05:50
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Razor-Xsizzam: I don't start Eterm at bootup, but Eterm loading time is incredibly speedy05:50
jtan325cmatheson, oh well. i am going to check out this thing called "devil's pie"05:50
valtarici was trying what another person was telling me but didn;t work so i tried d/l the program but i need to turn it into a .deb for it to work i think..05:50
cmathesonjtan325: rad, i've never heard of it05:50
BeatYouhow do i extract a .tgz05:50
Razor-Xand the little icon you see at the top-left, that's the best part about compiling ;), even better than the native twin support05:50
jtan325cmatheson, i "only" have a 17 inch screen, so maybe it will help with keeping my real estate...05:50
crimsuntar xzf05:50
cmathesonBeatYou: tar xzvf foobar.tgz05:50
Razor-XBeatYou: tar -xvzf .tgz05:50
cmathesonjtan325: haha05:50
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BeatYoucrimsun cmatheson Razor-X i have tried that, says not in gzip format ?05:51
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crimsunthen it's named incorrectly. Try tar xf05:51
crimsunmozilla used to have such issues05:51
cmathesonBeatYou: sounds corrupted05:51
BeatYouthe fiel is ircd-hybrid-7.1.0.tgz05:52
Razor-XBeatYou: you gonna compile ircd?05:52
valtarichey crimsum can you help me get mplayer onto my sys.?05:52
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BeatYouhopefully haha05:52
Razor-XBeatYou: well... that's a little startling if you don't know extraction commands ;)05:52
blrichcould someone help? having problems setting up my netgear 802.11g ath5212 wireless card05:52
crimsunvaltaric: did you try the version in multiverse? (my previous question)05:52
valtarici have no clue waht mulityverse is i'm new to linux/ubuntu.05:53
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BeatYouwas corrupted archive05:53
crimsunvaltaric: find Synaptic in the System >... menu05:53
jtan325cmatheson, do you use a pager?05:53
valtarick05:53
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valtarick synaptic packge is open05:54
sizzamim looking for a simple ftp server to set up.  i want to set up 1 user and no anonymous access05:54
crimsunvaltaric: now go to Settings> Repositories05:54
valtarick05:55
valtaricthere05:55
tarvidstruggling with wp8 on ubuntu05:55
crimsunvaltaric: now click Add05:55
valtarick05:55
cmathesonjtan325: i don't, i keep thinking about getting one05:55
tarvidfaq suggests I have libsafe enabled05:55
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tarvidbut the instructions on how to turn it off don't seem to apply05:55
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blrichstruggling with my wireless card which should work 'out fo the box' according to wiki - can someone help? drivers are recognised but interface isn't05:56
crimsunvaltaric: now select the bottom two that are currently unchecked05:56
tarvidany hints on running libc5 programs on ubuntu?05:56
valtaricok05:56
cmathesontarvid: can you recompile from source?05:56
tarvidno, the target iw wp805:56
valtaricdo irefresh it and do a search for mplayer now?05:57
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Computer__Guruvaltaric: whats the last thing you did?05:57
valtarici tried what you told me but it wasn;t working.05:58
valtaricso i'm trying it in mulitiverse now..05:58
jwbis there a simple way to remove a line from loadmodules in the initrd?05:58
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croutonphzi: hey, you still about?05:58
Computer__Gurudid you uncomment all 4 universe lines from /etc/apt/sources.list?05:58
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jwbmy loadmodules has ide-scsi and i don't want it there.  it's not in /etc/mkinitrd/modules, either05:58
valtaricmaybe... i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing so i'm not sure.. lmao05:59
Computer__Guruno, its in universe05:59
monki'm having a real battle with my dvd/cd burner05:59
sizzamanyone use the webmin utility for pure-ftpd?05:59
Computer__Gurupm me05:59
tarvidcmatheson, i installed libc5 and libc5-compat entries are created in /etc/ld.so/conf but they are empty05:59
valtaric.?05:59
tarvidthat is the directories they point to are empty05:59
tarvidthe wp8 faq suggests I am running libsafe05:59
monki pop in a blank cdrw, and it won't recognize that i've put anything in.  i manually blank it with cdrecord and it pops up nautilus in burn:/// mode, but it doesn't see a cd recorder to burn to.05:59
monkit does the same thing with dvds (with the exception of having to blank them)06:00
blrichplease, can anyone help me?06:00
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monkblrich: what's the prob?06:01
crimsunvaltaric: ok, got multiverse and universe added?06:01
blrichmonk, i can't setup my wireless card, even though the wiki says it's supported06:02
monkand dmesg is griping that "This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"06:02
blrichi have a netgear pci wireless 802.11abg, with an ath5212 chipset06:02
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monkblrich: what have you done so far?06:02
blrichit says it's supposed to come up as ath0 interface, but it doesn't06:02
blrichdrivers for it are auto-loaded on startup06:02
monkwhat does dmesg say?06:02
tarvidblrich, i have an atheros card working the Proxim wd-847006:03
blrichtarvid, those are drivers?06:03
blrichmonk, will check brb06:03
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crimsunblrich: what does ,,ip a'' tell you? (use the pastebin in the topic)06:03
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blrichmonk root@blackbox:/home/blrich # dmesg | grep ath06:03
blrichath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.06:03
blrichath_hal: 0.9.12.14 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)06:03
blrichath_rate_onoe: 1.006:03
blrichath_pci: 0.9.4.12 (EXPERIMENTAL)06:03
blrichath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1306:03
tarvidblrich, installed ubuntu with the card installed and it worked06:03
tarvidthis is an 802.11 b/g card (not trimode)06:04
blrichtarvid, how do i use those proxim drivers?06:04
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tarvidblrich, they were installed automatically. There are madwifi drivers and ath0 does show up. I didn't do anything special to get them to work.06:04
blrichcrimsun, root@blackbox:/home/blrich # ip a06:05
blrich1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue06:05
blrich    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:0006:05
blrich    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo06:05
blrich    inet6 ::1/128 scope host06:05
blrich       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever06:05
blrich2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100006:05
blrich    link/ether 00:11:d8:78:37:10 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff06:05
blrich    inet 192.168.0.72/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth006:05
blrich    inet6 fe80::211:d8ff:fe78:3710/64 scope link06:05
blrich       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever06:05
blrich3: sit0: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop06:05
blrich    link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.006:05
blrichtarvid, will chck it out hang on06:05
cafuegoblrich: See the 'EXPERIMENTAL' bit?06:05
crimsunblrich: (please use #flood or the pastebin in the topic next time)06:05
croutonwhoa.. no flooding06:05
croutonpastebin, son06:05
blrichcafuego, no, what?06:05
cafuegoblrich: [14:03]  <blrich> ath_pci: 0.9.4.12 (EXPERIMENTAL)06:06
cafuegoblrich: probably not gunna work.06:06
=== misfit_toy experiments
GigaClon!divx06:06
ubotuNo idea, GigaClon06:06
blrichtarvid, can't find any drivers in /lib/modules/....net/wireless that match madwifi or proxim06:06
crimsunGigaClon: w32codecs in debian-marillat06:06
cafuegoGigaClon: iki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:06
blrichcafuego, ah, good point. well i'm doing an update now, i only installed 1hour ago06:06
cafuegos/iki/wiki/06:06
cafuegoblrich: You may end up having to use ndiswrapper06:07
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blrichcafuego, well that should work. and according to wiki, so should ath5212 drivers06:07
blrichhmm06:07
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misfit_toyblrich, ndiswrapper works well for these things.06:08
monkshould a computer/OS all of a sudden stop being able to recognize blank optical media?06:08
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cafuegomonk: No, it should not but it can happen.06:08
=== cafuego doesn't use his wg511 coz it doesn't do 64bit
monkcafuego: any particular reason?06:08
cafuegomonk: Normally means the drive is busted.06:08
cafuegomonk: I've had two do that06:09
monkcafuego: don't tell me that...this is a *brand* new machine06:09
monkwell - a month old06:09
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cafuegomonk: Mine was brand new too.06:09
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cafuegomonk: Sony gave me a new one.06:09
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blrichwell my lspci says this06:09
blrich0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)06:09
cafuegomonk: Warranty is your friend, usually ;-)06:09
blrichdoes that mean anything?06:09
againstmecan someone please private message me about using alien and installing non deb packages on ubuntu?06:09
againstmethanks06:09
blrichwould seem to say it's an ar5212 which should work06:10
cafuegoagainstme: alien foo.rpm; dpkg -i foo.deb06:10
Razor-XI never used wget on an https :(06:10
Razor-XI keep getting forbidden06:10
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HostingGeekLOL06:11
HostingGeekLook at what I just found06:11
HostingGeekdo apt-get moo06:11
monkcafuego: yeah - they're going to love hearing from me.  "You remember that laptop you sent me?  The one with Winblows?  Well, the first thing that I did was wipe Winblows off of it and put a *real* OS on it.  And my DVD burner is busted.  You need to send me a new one."  "I'm sorry sir, you're running an unsupported operating system.  We can't help you."06:11
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HostingGeekyou don't need to be root06:11
HostingGeek         (__)06:11
HostingGeek         (oo)06:11
HostingGeek   /------\/06:11
HostingGeek  / |    ||06:11
HostingGeek *  /\---/\06:11
HostingGeek    ~~   ~~06:11
Razor-Xis this cowspeak?06:11
HostingGeek...."Have you mooed today?"...06:11
cafuegomonk: <heh> Time to put windows back on and check if the drive works in that.06:11
Razor-XHostingGeek: install cowspeak ;)06:11
HostingGeekI just did it06:11
cafuegoAlso see 'moomoo(en|de)code'06:12
holycowwith a little bit more polish inkscape is going to be a pretty darn good little vector illustrator06:12
monkcafuego: mmmmm....don't know if i wanna do that.....06:12
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HostingGeekE: Invalid operation moomooencode06:12
crimsunHostingGeek: c'mon, you know better than to flood06:13
nomasteryodahey all, UbuntuLinux Live is saving my butt06:13
trevor_Anyone know the apt source.list for bluefish?06:13
holycowhows that nomasteryoda06:13
trevor_editor*06:13
nomasteryodahad UPS powerfailure and had to boot up with it06:13
nomasteryodato get to my hdb data06:13
nomasteryoda... /home06:13
Razor-Xhah, a UPS powerfailure06:13
nomasteryodato copy to a sata drive i just installed yesterday06:14
nomasteryodayea06:14
Razor-Xnow tohse happen often ;)06:14
nomasteryodaRazor-X, it flipped off, on, off, on06:14
Razor-XXD06:14
nomasteryodahosed the superblock06:14
Razor-Xtake that UPS!!!06:14
holycownomasteryoda, kanotix and knoppix have come in hand for many a similar situation indeedy06:14
nomasteryodaand sling it06:14
Razor-X*those06:14
bimberitrevor_: it's in the "universe" repository06:14
nomasteryodaholycow, yes06:14
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cafuegoStupid bot06:14
Razor-XI met Kano06:14
Razor-Xhe's a cool guy06:14
nomasteryodaI just had a nice shiny new set of Ubuntu disks got from a friend06:14
nomasteryodacool06:14
nomasteryodaI like kanotix06:15
trevor_bimberi: where can i read about "universe" im unsure what is or how i can use it06:15
nomasteryodahave the dvd qemu edtion of knoppix 4.006:15
nomasteryodanice06:15
bimberitrevor: ...06:15
crimsuntrevor_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages06:15
bimberi!repositories06:15
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:15
nomasteryodaeven has the kitchensync06:15
odyssey!mp306:16
ubotuodyssey: I don't know06:16
tarvidblrich, are u there?06:16
cafuegoCrud, I can't find the moomooencode source, all I got are libc5 binaries.06:16
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harris|u!win32codec06:17
ubotuI haven't a clue, harris|u06:17
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harris|ubleh, am I searching for the right thing -- to play .wma files?06:17
cafuego!tell harris|u -about w32codecs06:17
seth_kharris|u: w32codecs06:17
odysseyits not a very handy bot really06:18
seth_kharris|u: you can find them in Backports06:18
harris|uokay, thanks06:18
thiloHi. has anybody of you a samsung notebook running with ubuntu?06:18
HostingGeekcrimsun: me flood? never06:18
misfit_toythilo, no dude, I got a Dell! ;)06:19
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againstme powerbook06:19
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cafuegopoor misfit_toy06:19
nomasteryodathilo, no, but I got an old Sony 505 working with it06:19
sizzami need some help with webmin login problems, setting up for first time06:19
odysseythilo if you want to know if it works check the wiki06:19
=== misfit_toy went to school with Dell, when he used to sell them out of his trunk
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nomasteryodaLOL06:19
nomasteryodawow06:19
=== cafuego has a bunch of broken Dells that indicate he's not going to ever give mr Dell money again
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harris|useth_k, what do you suggest doing -- the download keeps timing out and I can't seem to get the codecs06:20
Razor-Xcowsay is so awesome!06:20
=== nomasteryoda seconds that motion cafuego
againstmecan someone please pm me for help with alien and installing non deb packages06:20
misfit_toycafuego, this dell laptop SUCKED on xp, so I put ubuntu on it, it is cruisin' now06:20
cafuegomisfit_toy: Mine all sucked; got a batch of 5. Some are on their 3rd mobo.06:20
GigaClonmisfit_toy: same here06:21
cafuegomisfit_toy: As in: the hardware failed. Never mind the software.06:21
seth_kharris|u: from backports?06:21
misfit_toycafuego, I work for a bank, we used to get all Dell shit, we switched to HP recently06:21
harris|useth_k, yes using synaptic to get them06:21
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GigaClonagainstme: alien -d /path/to/rpm06:21
cafuegomisfit_toy: Yeah, my current one is an HP.06:21
seth_kharris|u: dialup? the codecs are huge06:21
trevor_oh now thats sweet06:22
trevor_thanks06:22
cafuegoDue for replacement next year.06:22
misfit_toycafuego, I have 2 hp's here and 4 dells, they all work great with ubuntu06:22
harris|useth_k, no, DSL06:22
againstmeis that installing alien?06:22
seth_kharris|u: are you using mirrormax backports mirror?06:22
cafuegomisfit_toy: All 5 Dells are dead. The HPs work fine, as do the G4's.06:22
misfit_toycafuego, laptops?06:22
cafuegomisfit_toy: yes06:22
misfit_toycafuego, which model?06:22
cafuegomisfit_toy: CPtS 50006:22
cafuegomisfit_toy: They had a design flaw.06:22
misfit_toycafuego, ouch06:22
misfit_toycafuego, yes they did06:23
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cafuegomisfit_toy: keyboard controlelr broke a LOT.06:23
misfit_toycafuego, I remember06:23
=== cafuego did at least have extended warranty
misfit_toylol06:23
harris|useth_k, yes06:23
cafuegobut you know, at the end the repair guy knew to ask for a coffee when he turned up06:23
fileserveranyone here give perl lessons?06:23
JDahldo you have problems with Dell Optiplex? I have a couple of those, and they randomly crash06:23
cafuego!stab remanufacturing06:23
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?06:23
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seth_kharris|u: that is the most heavily used mirror... maybe try using another? I don't uses backports myself, so that's just a guess06:24
misfit_toycafuego, yeah, when we have our older dell servers like the 2650's serviced, that's the first thing, 'would you like some coffee?"06:24
amittpdoes ubuntu support any repository for j2sdk1.4.2?06:24
bimberiharris|u: another backports mirror is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/06:24
elshadiican someone please give me advise on how to install oo.org beta in Hoary?  i see a ton of install scripts but they are all giving 404's06:24
harris|ubimberi, okay thanks06:24
seth_kharris|u: I see the newest backports mirror is listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4645906:24
=== misfit_toy needs a splash of champagne in his wine, brb
cafuegomisfit_toy: Most of my clients use HP/Compaq servers these days. The only service they've needed is ripping out a drive and plugging in a new one on failure, twice.06:25
seth_kelshadii: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines about "universe"06:25
crimsunamittp: no, but you can easily generate a Java deb06:25
seth_kelshadii: then you can install it through synaptic (1.9.79)06:25
cafuegomisfit_toy: But that's not too abd over 4 years and 6 servers.06:25
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crimsunamittp: see the java-package package06:25
harris|useth_k, okay when i update the mirror - do I need to do apt-get update or anything?06:25
cafuegoelshadii: apt-get install openoffice.org206:25
seth_kharris|u: that's correct. sudo apt-get update06:25
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=== Razor-X is thinking of removing Oo
amittpcrimsun, thanks06:26
elshadiiok thanks06:26
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blrichcan someone tell me how i can get xfce for ubuntu?06:26
Razor-Xsince I started logging this channel yesterday, and with the intermittent leaves i've taken, I have logged up 29450 lines of log06:26
misfit_toycafuego, we have nearly 2000 servers, about .25 Dell and the rest HP/Compaq06:27
IceDC571blrich: sudo aptitude install xfce406:27
Razor-X!info xfce406:27
ubotuxfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB06:27
blrichwhat's aptitude?06:27
IceDC571!info aptitude06:27
ubotuaptitude: (terminal-based apt frontend), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.2.15.8-1ubuntu12 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 4804 kB06:27
Razor-Xaptitude is awesome06:27
Razor-XI reccomend it wholeheartedly06:27
Aerebusanyone know the command to delete a folder and everything in it? rm -d folername?06:27
crimsunrm -rf06:27
concept10misfit_toy, hello my friend06:27
IceDC571Aerebus: rm -rf filename06:27
Razor-XAerebus: rm -r foldername06:27
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Razor-Xerrr, -rf06:28
Razor-Xuggghhh, dired has made me lazy ;)06:28
Aerebuslol ty06:28
IceDC571no one got it right lol06:28
blrichno packages matching xfce, or xfce406:28
misfit_toyconcept10, wassup mang?06:28
Razor-X!repos06:28
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:28
qt2is 7zip compression goood enough to squeeze 9.8 gb down into 1,8gb? o.o;06:28
crimsunIceDC571: "no one?"06:28
blrich!repos06:28
IceDC571crimsun: ahh, you did06:28
blrich!repos06:28
concept10misfit_toy, nothing much.  How was the weekend?06:29
misfit_toyhas ANYbody found the fix for the 99% cpu problem with gnome?06:29
misfit_toyconcept10, HOT06:29
crimsunIceDC571: so did you06:29
againstmea good place to get .deb packages?06:29
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IceDC571theres a 99% cpu problem with gnome?06:29
concept10misfit_toy, when do you have that problem?06:29
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IceDC571dont tell me its possible to reproduce it06:29
JDahlqt2, that depends on what you are compressing, of course... unless you have 10gb textfiles, it doesnt sound likely06:29
misfit_toyconcept10, I had it in FC and Ubuntu both, suddenly the cpu spikes to 99% and stays there unless you reboot....top and ps don't report any errant apps..06:30
seth_kblrich: aptitude pwns all </late>06:30
againstmeneed help with alien06:30
misfit_toyconcept10, it's random too06:30
IceDC571misfit_toy: it might be a problem with your specific hardware?06:30
misfit_toyIceDC571, that's my guess06:30
qt2JDahl, roms... XD06:30
concept10misfit_toy, the only time I see a problem similar to that is when some website use too much flash06:31
IceDC571misfit_toy: have you tried running memtest86 to see if there are any conflicts in your memory?06:31
misfit_toyIceDC571, I almost think it's this wifi card, but I didn't have it with FC, so I'm thinking it might be wifi itself with Gnome06:31
IceDC571misfit_toy: ahh, alright06:31
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JDahlqt2, in that case - probably... I doubt 20 year old Pacman roms are compressed in any way06:31
misfit_toyIceDC571, yeah, ran memtest a billion times in the last few months06:31
IceDC571misfit_toy: hah.. what sad lives we live running memtest06:32
misfit_toyconcept10, this used to be an issue with udev, but they fixed that, so I say it's GNOME dammit06:32
qt2JDahl, heh, snes... :o06:32
qt2any woot \o/06:32
misfit_toythe problem is that you can't find what's sucking the cpu06:33
misfit_toypisses me off06:33
tarvidblrich, my card is a 5212 card also and is using the ath-pci drivers06:33
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misfit_toyso yeah, it must be this DELL laptop, lmao06:33
misfit_toyotherwise it rocks06:33
fr500hello06:33
JDahlagainstme, you need to be more specific... also dont expect alien to always work out dependencies correctly (I think)06:33
=== IceDC571 loves his AMD
harris|uCan someone help me with this error - Totem could not play 'file:///home/harris/bball-game.wmv'. - I just installed the w32codecs but I'm still getting it06:34
IceDC571oh wait im using an intel right now, damn!06:34
fr500i am trying to install bind9 from synaptic, but i get MD5 checksum error, any workarounds?06:34
misfit_toyIceDC571, lol06:34
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blrichtarvid, so does mine but it doesn't work06:34
bimberi!usmirror06:35
ubotusomebody said usmirror was if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list06:35
misfit_toydamn cats keep knockin' up the neighborhood slut cats06:35
blrichbbl06:35
concept10heh06:35
concept10alley cats06:35
fr500ubotu, gonna try, thanks06:35
ubotufr500: I give up, what is it?06:35
IceDC571im trying to get a linux pc for $300.. any of you have any reccomendations for hardware?06:35
IceDC571misfit_toy: i like intels.. but their new socket design is just... strange06:35
misfit_toyconcept10, yeah, this one cute little bitch cat keeps begging for it and my male cats just mount /mnt/female /mnt/slut06:36
concept10IceDC571, do you have any components that you are going to reuse?06:36
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againstmehow do you run alien from ubuntu?06:36
IceDC571concept10: im going to reuse my 80gb sata drive and thats about it06:36
fr500againstme, sudo alien rpm_file06:36
concept10misfit_toy, have you been drinking tonight?06:36
misfit_toyIceDC571, I'm more involved in software lately so I am SO far behind in the hardware world..even though I build servers daily, I just build what they give me and support the web sites on them.06:37
againstmefrom the terminal?06:37
croutonlol06:37
fr500is anyone using ubuntu as a server?06:37
misfit_toyconcept10, of course!06:37
fr500i mean, big server06:37
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crimsunwell the entire ubuntu.com domain does06:37
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IceDC571lol well that might be obvious06:37
fr500oh06:37
misfit_toyok, time for bed in a few, l8r y'all06:37
aruI went to a local computer recycler and got a linux machine for $2506:38
concept10IceDC571, I would get a A64 motherboard and cpu combo, 512 ram and a cheap video card for about 30006:38
budish76i use ecs desknote a901 with sis 630 vga06:38
croutonthat'd be like hotmail.com running on IIS... it might now. ;)06:38
budish76why i cannot do glxgears on console06:38
arudoes that help?06:38
concept10I have a ubuntu server06:38
againstmei installed alien from synaptic and ran that sudo alein command and it said alien not found?06:38
concept10no different than running a debian server06:38
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budish76[sis_alloc.c:154] : Failure to allocate Z buffer. that's the error06:38
fr500concept10, what services are you hosting?06:39
budish76anyone know the problem06:39
cmathesonbudish76: you need to get the unofficial drivers for your sis chipset... which one is it?06:39
budish76xsis06:39
budish76xsis-svga06:39
cmathesonbudish76: yeah, but which one? 630/730/760/330?06:39
budish76already installed06:39
budish76hmmm06:39
asimismoIf I did an update-rc.d without the -f flag, what actually changed?06:39
concept10againstme,  alien --to-deb package.rpm06:39
concept10           Convert the package.rpm into a package.deb06:39
budish76wait a sec06:39
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khalid_hi!06:40
fr500concept10, i'm in a project, on providing free internet and e-mail services for my city, the "linux routers" are running hoary now with no probs, except some problems with an especific NIC vendor06:40
JDahlagainstme, what is it you need to install?06:40
concept10fr500, I have apache2 php4 mysql for a mambo CMS06:40
budish76cmatheson: at synaptic it says SiS 540/630 Linux display driver06:40
budish76The sis program allow the user to use the sis 540/630 full hardware06:40
budish76acceleration. It included line drawing, Textout, bitblt & hardware06:40
budish76cursor....06:40
fr500concept10, so i wanna knowif it would hold up well for a big mail server06:40
fr500concept10, ok06:40
concept10fr500, the same as debian, so well, it shouldnt cause any problems06:41
budish76actually i use the rpm package then converted to deb06:41
budish76by alien06:41
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JDahlfr500, what's that got to do with the distro? that depends on the mailserver06:41
fr500JDahl, i know, but some distros are more stable than others06:41
BeatYouanyone know an easy way of monitoring ircd-hybrid ?06:42
cmathesonbudish76: go google around for that error... i don't have the link on this box... a guy has written rad drivers for it that will fix that problem though06:42
cmathesonbudish76: whinschoofer or something like that06:42
fr500JDahl, i had red hat 9 in some routers before, it requiered a reboot every now and then, maybe because of bad quality hardware, i don't know, but doesnt happen with ubuntu06:42
budish76btw thanks a lot06:42
budish76i'll googling06:42
fr500i was running OSPF in the backbone, but it's still a smallish backbone :p06:43
concept10fr500, you use linux as the router?06:43
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fr500concept10, yes, it's cheaper06:43
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fr500concept10, and works wonders06:43
Computer__Guruyeah, linux runs better as a router than any router ont he market :D06:44
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concept10fr500, have you tried freebsd?06:44
fr500concept10, one word: FLEXIBILITY06:44
fr500concept10, not yet06:44
Computer__Guruand it'll run as fast as any router out there on a P-II 350 w/64MB RAM06:44
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Computer__Guruif you add a wifi card to it, it'll even do your wireless :D06:45
elshadiiI tried to install muine, it installed but i'm getting a seg fault when trying to import my folder, is there any way I can uninstall it and all of the stuff that was installed along with it?06:45
fr500concept10, it used to be an ISP, it had debts, so they broke06:45
fr500concept10, it had like 400clients back then06:45
fr500we got hold of it, but there are no clients now06:45
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bienve:D06:46
bienvehi all! :)06:46
jewelelshadii:  You can type apt-cache show muine and it'll tell you all of the programs that muine depends on06:46
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jewelelshadii:  You can then go and try and remove them in synaptic and see if they try and remove other packages06:46
fr500just like 20 people connected to the freenet still in testing, we need sponsorship for bandwidth before we can let this grow06:46
elshadiiok thanks much06:46
edamronHi everyone... First time I've used IRC so be gentle :-)06:46
BeatYoufr500 what are you hosting ? ircd06:46
Razor-Xelshadii: the first lesson to learn on IRC is tab-complete ;)06:47
fr500BeatYou, we are gonna give free internet and email for the whole city06:47
Razor-Xwhen addressing one person, rather than typing out their full name, hit <TAB>06:47
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fr500BeatYou, a freenetwork+06:47
edamronoh tab complete? What's that?06:47
jewelelshadii:  If it tries to remove a bunch of stuff that you use, then click on edit->unmark all06:47
BeatYoufr500 cool06:47
BeatYouwith a P2 ?06:47
concept10fr500, dialup?06:47
fr500BeatYou, nope, that was that guy's idea06:47
fr500concept10, no, wifi mostly06:48
pinko anybody like file managers?  any thoughts on what good ones are good, and why?06:48
JDahlRazor-X, then afterwards we'll teach him to keep tabbing until he gets the right nick ;)06:48
HostingGeekCan we have this in ubuntu http://www.eeggs.com/items/39921.html06:48
Razor-XJDahl: ;)06:48
HostingGeekcrimsun: maybe you should read that as mdz isn't here06:48
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Madpilotedamron: type the first two or three letter of someone's nick. then hit TAB. autocompletion.06:48
pinkoshort attention span prevents waiting around for too many replies.06:48
signbarnDoes anyone have an idea why i can hear my microphone through my speakers, but i can't record with the sound recorder or get sound to work over GnomeMeeting?06:49
edamronMadpilot kewl06:49
fr500we have one node now, and 2mbit connection to internet, paid by us, eventually it's gotta be more nodes connected via fiber/wimax to the master node, the clients connect to the nodes using wifi links06:49
edamronMadpilot, Okay I think I almost got it :-)06:49
fr500concept10, the clients have to get the equipment by themselves, and being free there is no guaranted level of service06:49
jewelsignbarn:  There are two little icons under each volume control in the capture tab06:50
jewelsignbarn:  The first controls whether or not you hear it through the speakers06:50
Madpilotedamron: good, that's IRC 101. notice that msgs that start with your nick are highlighted,too.06:50
fr500concept10, but the free wan links we provide are making lan partys a lot of fun :)06:50
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jewelsignbarn:  and the second controls whether or not it will be recorded by applications06:50
dougskHostingGeek, that would be a very nice egg.06:50
crimsunHostingGeek: who says there aren't?06:50
edamronMadpilot, Yes very kewl.  So am I on some kind of default channel?06:50
jewelWasn't there an easter egg on april fools?06:51
blmartin777How come in a terminal when I try to su and type my password it says authentication failed?06:51
jewelSome sort of different login screen or something?06:51
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iamdaoneI am using Hoary hedgehog06:51
iamdaoneI want to update to the newest Ubuntu distro06:51
jewelblmartin777:  You haven't set a root password06:51
dougskjewel, yeah I seen it I was horrified, teasing06:51
iamdaoneWITHOUT having to format my hardrive06:51
edamronMadpilot, I don't really understand the layout of IRC yet.06:51
blmartin777Where do I do that06:51
iamdaoneand then put all my gigs of stuff back on it06:51
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jewelblmartin777:  If you just want a root shell type sudo bash06:51
asimismoMaybe this is a better question--If I used update-rc.d to prevent a service from starting, how do I get it back to how it was?06:51
jewelblmartin777:  To set (or change) the root password type sudo passwd06:52
iamdaoneis it possible to upgrade to the latest distro without reformatting the HD06:52
pinkoI am on irc in gaim.  I keep forgetting it can do that.06:52
timanyone know what package I need to install in ubuntu to get gFTP to support https?06:52
blmartin777thanks jewel06:52
concept10iamdaone, yes06:52
Madpilotedamron: you're on #ubuntu channel on freenode.net; there are lots (thousands, probably) of servers, and 100x that # of channels06:52
fr500pinko, you have warty?06:52
iamdaonehow concept10?06:52
jeweliamdaone:  Yes.  What are you currently running and what to you want to upgrade to?06:52
dougskiamdaone, type /topic although it's possible the consequences are high06:52
iamdaoneI am running hoary hedgehog06:52
signbarnjewel: thank you! i feel retarded :-)06:52
iamdaoneand I want the latest thing06:52
jeweliamdaone:  That is the latest thing right now06:52
pinkonope.  hoary.  why, fr500?06:52
iamdaoneyes06:52
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JDahliamdaone, you could upgrade to Breezy, which is in development, but if things break (and they will) you need to have a good working linux knowledge to fix them06:53
jeweliamdaone:  The next version called breezy, is due on September 1306:53
fr500pinko, misread, i though you were the one looking to dist-upgrade06:53
concept10iamdaone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes06:53
iamdaoneok06:53
iamdaonethanks I will go there06:53
edamronMadpilot, How do I find the right channel to ask questions about packages for ubuntu?06:53
iamdaoneI know linux pretty well06:53
iamdaonebut am knew to deb06:53
crimsunedamron: generally, this is the correct channel06:53
fr500have you played nexuiz?06:53
Madpilotedamron: you're on it. ask away!06:54
pinkofr500: nah, breezy is not very highly recommended I notice06:54
blmartin777how do you search with apt-get?06:54
crimsunblmartin777: you don't. use aptitude or apt-cache06:54
concept10apt-cache search packagename06:54
JDahlblmartin777, apt-cache search06:54
harris|uCan someone help me with this error - Totem could not play 'file:///home/harris/bball-game.wmv'. - I just installed the w32codecs but I'm still getting it06:54
signbarnjewel: i still get nothing when i record06:54
fr500pinko, i thought u were iamdaone, it's one line after your post06:54
edamronMadpilot, can I address a question to two or three people at a time?06:54
sjjubb1989what do i do about a corrupt package (.deb)06:54
Computer__Guruwhat package?06:54
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iamdaonethat tells me how to upgrade to haory06:54
sjjubb1989it was not downloaded in binary but ascii mode06:54
iamdaoneI want to upgrade to breezy06:54
Computer__Gururedownload it in binary mode?06:55
jeweliamdaone:  Right now breezy upgrade is broken06:55
concept10iamdaone, search the wiki06:55
sjjubb1989exactly how(i used IE because it freezes my linux on their site)06:55
Madpilotedamron: just ask w/o anyone's nick in front of the msg.06:55
iamdaoneoh Ok06:55
jeweliamdaone:  My brother just tried to do it and it didn't work06:55
Computer__Guruuse an ftp client? *shrug*06:55
iamdaoneoh OK06:55
sjjubb1989lol06:55
iamdaoneI will wait for it then :)06:55
timquick question: anyone know what package I need to install in ubuntu to get gFTP to support https?? I get a "HTTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection." error but I've tried installing every ssl package I thought might help06:55
JDahlsjjubb1989, you can always use wget06:55
sjjubb1989computer_guru: thanks06:55
Computer__Gurusounds like the mime-handlers on their site are not setup right06:55
sjjubb1989computerguru, JDahl, i forgot i installed an ftp client on this yesterday06:56
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Computer__Guruand it freezes linux because your browser is trying to display the contents of the file int he window06:56
edamronOkay I tried to install some packages with apt-get but got a checksum error or something.  Who do I report the problem to?  It was from the "Universe" I think.06:56
JDahlsjjubb1989, wget http://blabla from a terminal is pretty easy06:56
jeweliamdaone:  Typically it breaks more things than it fixes... it's a little to bleeding edge for anything but someone who either a) is developing it  or b) likes things to randomly break and fix them06:56
concept10iamdaone, jewel:  Upgrading to breezy is not recommended.  It could break your system06:56
pinkoor, cUrl06:56
iamdaonethanks guys06:56
iamdaonei will wait until it is released06:56
Computer__Guruedamron: change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubunut.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list file06:57
JDahlsjjubb1989, also, why are you downloading .debs manually?06:57
Computer__Guruthen do an apt-get update and try again06:57
sjjubb1989JDahl: on aim.com06:57
iamdaonedo you know how to stablize my NVIDIA drivers?  Its very strange, after watching a few DVD"s my official NVIDIA drivers go to hell and I get horrible performance06:57
Computer__Guruerr archive.ubuntu.com06:57
iamdaonewhen I restart it06:57
iamdaoneit works fine06:57
sjjubb1989JDahl, I am also using gaim, but i felt like putting aim oon too06:57
iamdaonethats the wierd part06:57
jeweliamdaone:  There will be a release candidate a couple of weeks before the real thing, it's a good time to switch because you can help work out any final bugs06:58
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Razor-Xsjjubb1989: I use TNT meself06:58
concept10iamdaone, run hdparm -d /dev/whatever dvd is06:59
sjjubb1989Razor-X: TNT?06:59
Razor-Xsjjubb1989: yeah06:59
Razor-Xemacs AIM client06:59
edamronComputer__Guru, Thanks!  I'll do that.06:59
Razor-Xnone of the curses-based ones work in any of emacs's terminal emulators -_-06:59
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jewelsignbarn:  What program are you using to record?07:00
jewelsignbarn:  What sound card do you have?07:00
fr500concept10, he does not have bad dvd playback performance, he has bad performance after watching dvds07:00
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concept10fr500, my bad performance is due to dma being off07:01
mortarhatedoes anyone else have problems with apt-get07:01
mortarhateit can't find anything07:01
Razor-Xmortarhate: what are the problems?07:01
concept10iamdaone, is dma on or off??07:01
mortarhateeven after i edit sources.list07:01
HostingGeekcrimsun: Where Where Where? There is nothing like that in breezy07:01
dougskmortarhate, md4sum mismatch?07:01
mortarhatemostly07:02
mortarhateand it cant "find" some packages07:02
mortarhatemost*07:02
fr500concept10, dma off gives bad dvd playback, but doesnt slow down the pc after playing back has ended07:02
crimsunHostingGeek: if I told you, its existence wouldn't be much of an easter egg, would it?07:02
mortarhateand i edited it according to ubuntuguide.org07:02
concept10fr500, hmmm....07:02
iamdaoneI don't know07:02
concept10!paste07:02
ubotupaste is probably ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""07:02
dougskmortarhate, using the us mirror?  I'd suggest changing if so07:02
mortarhateyea i am07:02
mortarhatewhat mirror do you suggest?07:02
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concept10mortarhate, paste your list there07:02
HostingGeekcrimsun: Tell me! NOW!07:02
mortarhateit's long07:03
dougskca canada  for a start07:03
mortarhateits the list on ubuntuguide.org07:03
signbarnjewel: i'm using Sound Recorder07:03
mortarhateall of the mirrors are .us07:03
mortarhateuniverse/multi07:03
fr500well g2 work, have to setup hula for testing07:03
mortarhateetc...07:03
fr500cya07:03
dougskmortarhate, the us mirror is out of sync07:03
mortarhatewhich mirror should i use?07:03
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mortarhatei can't install anything ):07:03
dougskjust change th us. to ca. in sources list07:03
mortarhatecanada?07:03
iamdaonehow do I fix DMA?07:04
mortarhategroovy07:04
jewelsignbarn:  try changing your device in the file menu of the mixer07:04
jewelsignbarn:  to the alsa mixer07:04
jewelsignbarn:  and then in the preferences turn on everything and fiddle around07:04
jewelsignbarn:  For instance, sometimes there's something in the switch tab that makes all the difference07:05
GigaCloncan someone recommend a IDE for C++ in linux?07:05
signbarnjewel: interesting. thanks. it seems i have to choose between capturing from line in or microphone. they can't both be on07:05
mortarhatelet's see if that did the trick07:05
concept10iamdaone, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdwhateverdvdrom is07:05
cmathesonGigaClon: i hear great things about the kdevelop sweet07:05
concept10add sudo07:05
mortarhatei'm re-updating my pack's list07:05
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cmathesonGigaClon: anjuta might be worth checking out... personally i'm all about vim07:05
concept10!repo07:05
ubotuconcept10: Are you smoking crack?07:05
concept10!repositories07:05
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:05
concept10mortarhate, check that07:06
mortarhate?07:06
mortarhatei just tried to install eterm, it didnt give me any errors but i still can't run it /:07:06
mortarhatenm07:06
mortarhateforgot to capitalize the E ;D07:06
concept10check this07:06
concept10!repositories07:06
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:06
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mortarhateohh07:06
mortarhateok07:06
mortarhatedank07:07
iamdaonecheck07:07
iamdaonethanks guys07:07
mortarhatekynaptic will use the mirrors in sources.list right?07:07
signbarnjewel: i have a Sound Blaster Live! -- does that mean anything?07:07
dougskmortarhate, afaik07:08
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mortarhateafaik?07:08
jewelsignbarn:  I think that's what I have too07:08
jewel!afaik07:08
ubotujewel: I don't know, could you explain it?07:08
dougskas far as I know07:08
mortarhatei dont like acronyms07:08
jewelafaik is as far as i know07:08
mortarhatehehe07:08
mortarhatedank07:08
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jewelubotu: afaik is as far as i know07:08
ubotujewel: okay07:08
jewel!afaik07:08
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mortarhatewe'll i'm about to find out i gues07:08
concept10ubotu, afaik is As far as I know07:08
ubotu...but afaik is already something else...07:08
jewelubotu hates us07:09
ubotujewel: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:09
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mortarhateit does...07:09
omega||anyone have any guides to advanced control of speedstep on centrino platforms?07:09
jewelsee what I mean07:09
concept10ubotu forget afaik07:09
ubotuconcept10: i forgot afaik07:09
concept10ubotu, afaik is As far as I know07:09
ubotuokay, concept1007:09
mortarhatei just refreshed my list and saw it downloading from ca...07:09
mortarhateinstead of us.07:09
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mortarhateyou guys were very helpful ;P07:09
concept10omega||, http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/195910.htm?prn=Y07:09
mortarhateawesome os btw07:09
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croutondoes anybody have or recommend a wallpaper rotater for Gnome?07:10
mgcrosshi all...quick question....I installed from cdrom, but now, for various reasons, I don't have a cd drive at the moment. I want to aptitude install some stuff, but it keeps asking for the cdrom...what line do I need to add to my sources.list file to stop this?07:10
croutonmgcross: You need to comment out the deb cdrom line.07:11
jewelmgcross:  You actually need to remove a line... the one referencing the cdrom07:11
dougskmgcross comment out the cdrom entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:11
hyphenatedmgcross: you probably wan to remove a line07:11
croutonAnd probably uncomment the network sources, if you haven't already.07:11
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mgcrosscrouton: thanks...do you mean something like wallpapoz gor your question?07:12
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jtan325cmatheson, do you use a pager app with openbox?07:12
rlaredhey all07:12
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rlaredhas anyone tried both ubuntu and mepis?07:12
croutonmgcross: Something like that, but everything on GnomeFiles is either cryptic or requires some crazy packages that want to uninstall nearly everything.07:12
dougskbtw, afaik, ca and us are the same machine, but I've had luck with switching so I dunno07:12
edamronDoes xchat keep a log of messages?  I got some advice and don't want to admit that I didn't write it down?  :-)07:12
jeweledamron:  It does, but you have to enable it07:13
dougskedamron, not by default but you can change your preferences to07:13
cmathesonjtan325: i don't... i've thought about getting one07:13
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cmathesonjtan325: but right now i generally know what's going on on my 4 desktops anyway07:13
mgcrosscrouton: hmmm...didn't have any problems getting wallpapoz up and running...check the forums...I belive I found a simple solution there07:13
cmathesonjtan325: there's a rad app bbpager that might work well though07:13
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croutonok07:13
dougskmaybe there is a gdesklet that does wallpaper changing?07:14
dabaRnalioths_dog: where is nalioth?07:14
jtan325cmatheson, bbpager complains "cannot connect to window manager"07:14
jtan325oh well07:14
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cmathesonjtan325: oh really? that's kind of lame... i think there was one built into fbpanel... but i can't remember too clearly (i only checked it out for a minute, never used it extensively)07:15
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croutonmgcross: wallpapoz doesn't support randomization yet. it's for multiple backgrounds for virtual desktops.07:16
mgcrosscrouton: thanks...worked great!07:16
mgcrosscrouton: sorry...wans't sure what you were looking for...07:16
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edamronWhat am I suppose to change us.archive.ubuntu.com to in the /etc/apt/sources-list file?07:16
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nxvlwhy i can't use Breezy yet?07:16
mgcrossnxvl: cause it's half baked :-)07:17
concept10nxvl, do you want a broken system07:17
NinwaI do I do!07:17
mgcrosslol07:17
nxvlwhen is becoming stable07:17
signbarnnxvl: you can't expect troubleshooting for breezy yet.07:17
nxvli have use debian SID for long time07:17
jewelhttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule07:17
mgcrossnxvl: no one said you could'nt...just be ready for some gottchas07:18
Ninwanxvl, October07:18
croutonmgcross: np07:18
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concept10j/k07:19
mgcrossconcept10: AHAHAHAHAHA!07:19
concept10I would do it on my other box just to see what happened but I dont want to have to resinstall wireless07:20
croutonconcept10: ugh. :(07:21
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concept10whats the max length that you can run cat 5 cable?07:21
jewelconcept10:  300M07:22
jewelconcept10:  I think... one second07:22
jasmuzconcept10: you mean what is the max length before data loss?07:22
dougskoops I was wrong the us and ca boxes appear to be different.07:22
concept10jasmuz, yes07:22
signbarnjewel: i finally got my mic to work! thanks for the help! :-) i had to turn up the In-gain on the OSS Mixer07:22
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dougskconcept10, jewel, yeah 100M ~300ft07:24
concept10dougsk, thanks07:24
dougskalthough I've ran it much longer07:24
dougskconcept10, no worries07:24
HostingGeekI am sponsoring everyone here one of these keyboards http://www.maltron.com/images/keyboards/j91-keyboard-front1-600.jpg just /msg me your address and they will be on the way to your home07:27
holycowyou shouldn't be getting data loss at 300 ft tho, thats a spec thats usually a delineation well before you get data loss07:27
holycowhowever07:27
signbarnSo apparently my gaim is outdated -- should i expect an ubuntu update? or should i update it on my own?07:27
harris|uIs there any way to force this error:07:27
harris|uW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb07:27
harris|u  MD5Sum mismatch07:27
holycowit is a spec and thats stated conservatively for a reason07:27
holycowits a very good idea to follow it or else be fishing cable out behind drywaall and ceiling fixtures later07:28
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concept10I wish I had one of those fishing poles for cables07:28
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adfafis there a site that can host a screenshot07:29
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signbarnso to update gaim, should i alien an rpm from their site?07:29
cmathesonadfaf: just run your own apache server?07:29
jewel_adfaf: It seems that deviantart does... not sure if it's open to anyone though07:29
adfafits just one screenshot07:29
harris|uadfaf, you can try www.wtfhacks.com/upload07:29
jasoncohensignbarn, huh, you can get gaim 1.4 from hoary-backports07:30
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signbarnjasoncohen: oh cool! thanks07:30
dougskadfaf, imageshack is popular07:30
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jasoncohensignbarn, why do you need the latest version of gaim?07:30
nicolei dont07:30
jasoncohensignbarn, gaim 1.1.4 in hoary receives timely security updtes07:30
jasoncohen*updates07:30
nicoleno07:30
jasoncohennicole, ?07:30
signbarnjasoncohen:  the yahoo profiles changed.07:31
nicoleok07:31
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jasoncohenah, so use backports07:31
signbarnjasoncohen: that's really the only thing -- otherwise everything's great07:31
jasoncoheni'm using 1.4 from backports-07:31
cyphasewhy doesn't firefox have sound in ubuntu?07:31
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pepsixwhy would you want firefox to make noise anyhow? ;P07:32
holycowfirefox doesn't do sound and media07:32
holycowyou mean flash?07:32
harris|uis there any way to force the download of a package with md5sum mismatches?07:32
jasoncohencyphase, what do you mean- firefox or firefox plugins like mozilla-firefox and flash07:32
cyphaseboth07:32
holycownot both07:33
holycowfirefox doesn't do sound and media07:33
holycowplugins only07:33
cyphasei know07:33
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jewel_harris|u:  You probably don't want to... that means something is out of sync07:33
pepsixharris|u, use a different repository07:33
cyphasebut it's not even doing click sounds07:33
cyphaselol07:33
pepsixlol07:33
cyphaseand flash isn;t working07:33
pepsixclick sounds are evil-ness07:33
cyphaseisn't*07:33
cyphasewell, sound07:33
holycowwhat click sounds?07:33
holycowwhat makes click soundsZ?07:33
cyphaseforget that07:33
holycow-z07:33
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pepsixholycow, IE style ;D07:34
cyphaseflash sound isn't working07:34
cyphaselol07:34
harris|uhmm -- well I'm trying to get vlc but I get: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch07:34
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pepsixdid you get flash tow ork at all?07:34
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cyphaseyes..07:34
holycowcyphase, how did you install flash, out of curiosity?07:34
pepsixharris|u, remove the 'us.' from all your repositories07:34
cyphaseholycow, synaptic07:34
harris|upepsix, okay07:34
cyphaseapt-get, whatever07:34
holycow*hmmm* thats weird, it's always worked07:34
holycowwhich one? there are two07:35
cyphaseyea07:35
cyphaseuhh..07:35
mortarhatetake out .us and replace with .ca07:35
mortarhateworks good that way ;)07:35
cyphaseflashplayer-mozilla07:35
cyphasedo i need to use non-free?07:35
holycowi would try that first07:36
cyphasek07:36
jewel_cyphase:  Usually, yes.07:36
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holycowi've heard of this problem, but i cannot remember the solution offhand07:36
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MircosoftAhh the good old nick07:37
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crossbarcan someone tell me the name of the wmv codex in the repository?07:37
mortarhatei just had it07:38
mortarhatehold on07:38
crossbarawesome07:38
dougsk!restricedformats07:38
ubotudougsk: Bugger all, i dunno07:38
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dougsk!restrictedformats07:38
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs07:38
mortarhatei think its w32codecs07:38
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Computer__Guruw32codecs has no installationc andidate07:39
hyapadisome of firmwire update such as optical drives ( dvdrom dvdwriter, etc ) requires m$ windows in order to run. But i'm using ubuntu now. Is there any other solution instead installing windows ?07:39
mortarhateit worked for me07:39
Miksanybody knows how can i change the color of the panel fonts?07:39
mortarhateusing the .ca repository07:39
cyphasenope07:39
cyphasedidn't work07:39
cyphase*sigh*07:39
dougskComputer__Guru, I think it's part of the unofficial hoary extras repo07:39
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dougskcyphase, flashplayer-mozilla restart mozilla try out my favorite flash video: http://load.pquinn.com/binaries/fries/07:42
dougskoops restart fiefox07:42
dougskcyphase, we're under the assumption that sound does work right?07:43
cyphasein flash, yes07:43
cyphaseeverything else works07:43
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crossbarwhats the name of the canadian repository?07:44
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crimsuncrossbar: ca.archive.ubuntu.com07:44
crossbarthanks07:44
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mokuiasHey all :-)07:45
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mokuiasAnyone awake?07:47
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cyphaseyes07:48
mokuiasFinally07:48
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mokuiasI was beginning to wonder where everyone had disappeared to =P07:49
anacroncoffee break07:49
Varangersleeping07:49
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mokuiasNow it all makes sense... ;-)07:49
Madpilotplaying GnomeMines07:49
Varangerbuilding Breezy07:49
anacronim at work, but there's only two guys here :D07:50
mokuiasseen the new msn spaces logo?07:50
anacronnope07:50
anacronwhat's that07:50
Madpilotis that the one that rips off U's circle?07:50
mokuiasalmost identicle to that of ubuntu07:50
mokuiasyep07:50
anacron:D07:50
mokuiashttp://wombat.nuxified.com/node/2007:51
anacronmicrosoft strikes back!07:51
anacron<bill_gates> all your base are belong to us07:51
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crossbarhm that doesnt work in my repository :\07:52
mokuiaslol07:52
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Madpilothttp://barstool.techtoucian.net/fishy.png07:52
trinidadhow do i shutdown x to install the nvidia driver?07:53
Madpilotsomeone actually logged on here w/ "Microsoft" as a nick? Brave of them... :)07:53
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bienveMadpilot :D07:53
mokuiashttp://barstool.techtoucian.net/fishy.png <- my friend's work07:54
mokuiasWombat is mine07:54
mokuias:)07:54
bienvesorry hablo espaol07:54
bienveXD07:54
bienvespeak spanish xD07:54
crossbardo i need to put anything after that in the list file?07:54
crossbarerk07:54
mokuiasso you guys all ubuntu users naturally, huh?07:55
bienvemokuias is good image :D07:55
bienveno much speak english :p07:56
Hieronymusbienve: #ubuntu-es07:56
bienveHieronymus 07:56
bienveme ere the channels :D07:56
bienvebienve on #ubuntu #ubuntu-es07:56
bienve:=)07:56
Madpilotmokuias: been using U for almost 3 months. 98 & XP before that... never going back, tho! :)07:57
mokuiashehe07:57
mokuiasI'm a Suse user m'self07:57
trinidadHELP!!  ....how do i shutdown x to install the nvidia driver?07:57
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jewel_Triffid_Hunter:  Have you already run sudo nvidia-config07:58
jewel_err07:58
cmathesontrinidad: ctrl+alt+bcksp07:58
jewel_trinidad:  Have you already run 'sudo nvidia-config' ?07:58
Hieronymuscmatheson: won't that just restart gdm?07:58
JDahltrinidad, you dont need to shutdown X to install new drivers, but to restart X you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"07:58
dougsktrinidad, the order of operations are: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then sudo nvidia-glx enable then save all your work then ctrl-alt-bkspc07:58
cmathesonHieronymus: that kills the x server... gdm will restart07:59
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cmathesonHieronymus: i guess if he wanted a console he could just hit ctrl+alt+f107:59
mokuiastrinidad - use ctrl+alt+delete07:59
mokuias:P07:59
JDahlctrl+alt+backspace?08:00
JDahlyou guys are thinking of how to reboot your windows machines08:00
jewel_JDahl:  That's how you kill x08:00
HieronymusJDahl: ctrl-alt-backspace kills the Xserver. Very usefull08:00
jewel_JDahl:  Try it... :D08:00
Hieronymusif something freezes, it can often be helped by killing X08:00
JDahljust people keep yapping about ctrl-alt-delete08:00
Hieronymusand I don't even own a windows machine :/08:01
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revalhi =08:01
reval)08:01
Hieronymushello08:01
JDahlit's ctrl-alt-backspace, not ctrl-alt-delete, that's what I meant08:01
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revalwas just hoping for the link to the website in ubuntu where I can figure out how to install nvidia drivers,heh08:01
crimsunreval: wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
jewel_!nvidia08:02
Hieronymusreval: try searching the wiki08:02
HrdwrBoBreval: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
revalI just reformatted my hdd, so don't have it saved on desktop anymore.08:02
revalthanks =)08:02
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mokuiasinit 5 restarts x right?08:03
light_punch2where's the package list for ubuntu?08:03
crimsunpackages.ubuntu.com08:03
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JDahlmokuias, yes, but it might do more depending on the init scripts08:03
GigaClonis there a there a Gnome vs KDE comparison somewhere?08:04
mokuiasGigaClon - why do you want such a thing?08:04
Madpilot!packages08:04
ubotuhmm... packages is http://packages.ubuntu.com/08:04
mokuiasit'll be biased most likely...08:04
Madpilotok, that does work. good bot.08:04
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GigaClonok another question then, how to you install KDE for ubuntu08:05
sky_monkey007does anyone why rpm --rebuild does not work in SuSE 9.108:05
JDahlGigaClon, install kubuntu-desktop08:05
light_punch2ubotu, thx08:05
ubotuI don't know, light_punch208:05
Hieronymussky_monkey007: Might be the wrong place to ask08:06
sky_monkey007oops, sorry :)08:06
sky_monkey007wrong window08:06
Madpilotlight_punch2: ubotu is a bot, not actually a person... :)08:06
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Madpilot!ubotu08:06
ubotumethinks ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!08:06
Hieronymuslight_punch2: if you think he's nice, you can say !good bot08:07
Hieronymus!good bot08:07
ubotu:)08:07
rendi!ping me08:07
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?08:07
GigaClonubotu, rpm is alien -d /path/to/rpm08:07
ubotuGigaClon: okay08:07
mokuias!good bot08:08
ubotuthanks mokuias :)08:08
mokuiasjust for the hell of it08:08
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light_punch2Madpilot, ic, i wasn't paying attention08:08
Madpilotanother round of playing with the bot... :)08:08
HieronymusGigaClon: -d is the default08:08
Hieronymus!forget rpm08:08
ubotuHieronymus: i forgot rpm08:08
Hieronymus!rpm is alien /path/to/rpm08:08
ubotuHieronymus: okay08:08
GigaClonmaybe not a comparison of the two, but a side by side list of features08:09
GigaClonobjective comparison08:09
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GigaClonis there a better text editor than gedit08:10
blmartin777can I apt-get amule I can't find it?08:10
GigaClonsome thing like TextPad for Windows08:10
JeanPierrehello people08:11
HieronymusGigaClon: some say vi is the best, others say emacs is better08:11
GigaClonhi JeanPierre08:11
dougskGigaClon, I don't know what textpad is, but some people like jedit, emacs, or vim08:11
JeanPierreI wonder if you could help with a little problem I have with my DVD playback08:11
JeanPierreit plays but stops every second or so08:11
jewel_GigaClon:  What sort of features are you looking for specifically?08:12
dougskGigaClon, I've tend to use fte08:12
crossbarbots are people too.08:12
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JDahlIs Canonical making progress on the python scripting framework for Gnome tools (cf. the "python scripting everywhere" bounty)? That would be very useful...08:13
HieronymusJDahl: maybe you should see the bounty page08:13
Hieronymus!wiki bounties08:13
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dougskJDahl, I've wondered to.  especially with sabayon etc getting some steam08:13
jasoncohenis network-manager going to remain in universe? i thought it was going to be included in main in breezy?08:13
JDahlHieronymus, duh - I linked to it!08:13
GigaClonI notice when I double click txt files it replaces the one I have open08:13
JDahlJDahl, er... cf.'ed to it08:13
dougskjasoncohen, there are some posts in ubuntu-dev related to that08:14
Hieronymuscd.'ed ?08:14
Hieronymuscf.'ed?08:14
jasoncohendougsk, do you happen to have a link?08:14
GigaClonmainly, tabs with documents, Find in Files..08:14
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dougskjasoncohen, not off hand08:14
JDahldougsk, I'm interested in scripting for Gnumeric, and they have the same problem, namely that their Python interface is not quite good enough08:14
harris|uCan someone help me with apache? People can't connect to the IP for some reason and I don't see why unless the port is being blocked by default or something08:15
dougskJDahl, wow, right on. sounds interesting. dunno, tbh08:16
JeanPierremaybe your port is being filtered08:16
JeanPierrecheck your iptables rules with iptables -n -L -v08:16
JeanPierremore documentation on www.iptables.org08:16
harris|uhmokay thanks08:17
jewel_harris|u:  Are these other people on your local LAN or on the Internet?08:17
jewel_harris|u:  How are you connected to the internet?08:17
harris|uthe internet08:17
harris|udsl modem08:17
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calamarihi08:18
anacronharris|u: do you have a router or some other firewalls?08:18
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harris|uno08:18
jewel_harris|u:  Are you connected directly to the modem or do you have a router?08:18
harris|udirect08:18
jewel_harris|u:  Some ISPs filter port 8008:18
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jewel_harris|u:  Try switching to a different port and see if that helps08:19
harris|uokay08:19
anacronharris|u: how you'r friends are trying to access your page?08:19
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zeeblehi. is there a way to netinstall hoary?08:20
harris|uanacron, through firefox / the internet? I don't really know how to answer that08:20
jewel_harris|u:  You might already know this, but then your friends will have to specify the other port... i.e. http://ip:port/08:20
revalI'm trying to install cadega, but it doesn't match my amd64 architecture =/ is there a way I can get it to work without going too crazy?08:20
zeebleor some way to get started with a minimal CD image/08:20
crimsunzeeble: yes, you can use the netboot diskettes to get started.08:20
zeeblecrimsun: diskettes? floppy images or CDs?08:20
anacronharris|u: i mean is their address correct, like http://your_ip nothing like www.ip.com etc08:20
crimsunzeeble: diskettes08:21
harris|uanacron, Oh, yes08:21
zeeblecrimsun: :( no floppies on laptop08:21
crimsunzeeble: nothing stopping you from burning it to cd, of course08:21
rob^reval, have you tried this?08:21
rob^http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4508:21
zeeblecrimsun: well, it has to boot from there, right?08:21
crimsunzeeble: it has to boot from a device, yes08:21
revalis there any way I can get 64 bit arcitecture to work with 86 programs easily?08:21
zeeblelemme check.08:21
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revalaah, sorry08:21
revalthanks rob, will check it out08:21
rob^np08:22
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rob^!cedega08:23
uboturob^: Are you smoking crack?08:23
anacronharris|u: then i don't know what could possibly be wrong, except that port and maybe user access? (read and execute)08:23
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rob^ubotu cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4508:23
uboturob^: okay08:23
nomasteryodajust played my first game of bzflag on hoary... on an old 750mhz dell dimension... works pretty sweet08:24
harris|uanacron, are you referring to port 78 or 8008:24
nomasteryodaand it was an ati card08:24
nomasteryodaer, is08:24
anacronharris|u: i would use 80, but you just have to try which one works08:24
harris|uanacron, can I PM you quickly?08:25
anacronharris|u: i don't think i can help you anymore08:25
vulcanoohello good morning08:25
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vulcanooi have a trouble with my display under kubuntu08:26
anacronharris|u: but sure you can if you wan't to :D08:26
vulcanooi have on only one choice 640X48008:26
anacronvulcanoo: #kubuntu08:26
vulcanoook anacron but but i have same problem with uubuntu08:27
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revalrob: it says it can't find package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev.  was there a typo in that, or is there a different problem?08:27
revalwhat I did was copy/pasted what they said debian users can do, since they didn't put it as separate commands, I did it all as one command, is that right?08:28
vulcanoohow can i have a display 800X600?08:28
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spermie_411do any of you use Synaptics? is so where do i go to enable  multiverse ??08:33
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pax!resolution08:33
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:33
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skyboyhi everyone08:33
skyboydoes anybody know any soft I could use to monitor connection to my box, telling who (IP) is connected and what it's using ??08:42
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revaldoes anyone know where the package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev is, or if the server it's on is currently down?08:50
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rob^there has been problems with the repos the last few days08:50
rob^and we're back..08:50
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Razor-Xnetstat08:50
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Sp33dy2Hey all.  I'm seeing something strange -- I've compiled my own kernel and my IDE drive does not show up in /dev , though the kernel does recognize it has hda, etc.  Could this ben an issue with hotplug / HAL ?08:51
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bungopoliswhat happened to the check-email applet in ubuntu's gnome?08:51
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rob^bugger.. that server has some problems08:52
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kjonHello there. Does anybody know a program to monitor the ink levels of a epson printer?08:52
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kjonHello there. Does anybody know a program to monitor the ink levels of a epson printer?08:52
Razor-Xkjon: ahhh, I wish I knew08:52
Razor-Xit would help me a lot08:52
kjonT-T08:52
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Razor-Xand, no need to reiterate your question, someone will answer it, if no-one does, no-one knows the answer08:53
Razor-Xyou can try a google search though, of course08:53
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kjonSorry Razor, I didn't on purpose.08:53
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cyphaseWhat's up with FreeNode?08:53
kjonI though none read my question due the flood.08:53
Razor-Xcyphase: netsplit-o-rama08:54
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kjonI had to switch servers. Freenode is working like the ....08:54
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revalI'm repeatedly getting problems trying to install something with it saying that Imy packaget architecture (i386) doesn't match sy stem (amd64).  is there a fix to this?  I just installed linux on this computer, heh08:54
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kjonAnd another question. Is openoffice 1.9 rock solid? I mean, I tried to open a MSWord XP document and ooo writer just got frozen.08:55
Razor-Xreval: you know what architecture is?08:55
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Razor-Xkjon: it generally is08:55
Razor-XI haven't had trouble with it, then again, nowadays I use LaTeX08:55
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kjonLaTeX. I've heard of it, but I never used it. What can you tell me about it?08:56
cyphasewhich theme do you guys use?08:56
kjonI'm new on this thing of ubuntu.08:56
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revalRazor-x: from my understanding, architecture is basically the processor format08:56
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revalRazor-x: but it's always been sort of reverse compatible =/08:56
Razor-Xreval: then what do you think the error is?08:56
Razor-Xkjon: it's beautiful ;)08:57
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Razor-Xreval: only if you create a 32 bit chroot (I don't know how to do that, many do though)08:57
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Razor-Xkjon: it's typesetting using a pseudo-programming-language08:57
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Razor-Xdocuments come out rendered beautifully, and math typesetting is a breeze08:58
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kjonWell, Actually I'm missing a lot a tool like Mathtype.08:58
kjonSo I guess I've to give it a try.08:58
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Razor-XLaTeX is one of the best-ways to create Math Typesetting08:58
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Razor-Xhttp://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/problem01.pdf08:59
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Razor-Xthat's an example... and a problem I still haven't solved08:59
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revalRazor-x: well, I'll try to find a solution, heh =)08:59
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Razor-Xreval: if you do, i'll thank you :)09:00
Razor-Xmy answer book hasn't been ordered yet09:00
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Razor-Xand, if you're interested in learning LaTeX quickly, google lshort.pdf, and read it09:00
kjonRazor-x: I know that font.... That might explain why all the guides of my teacher were all the same...09:00
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Razor-Xif you want to have a thorough study though, then get LaTeX: A document Preparation System and the LaTeX Companion09:01
kjonmhh... pseudo-programming-stuff... ok, I'll install it.09:01
Razor-Xkjon: heh, maybe that's why09:02
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Razor-Xkjon: sudo aptitude install latex09:02
Razor-Xor, substitude apt-get for aptitude09:02
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kjonokay, thx!09:02
Razor-X!info aptitude09:02
SeveasRazor-X, tetex, not latex :)09:02
Razor-Xgah!09:02
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Seveasthe bot is at the other side of the split :)09:02
Razor-XSeveas: ohh.... been a while... ;)09:02
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Razor-Xyeah, I thought so09:02
kjon' whatever...09:02
Razor-Xthank god for erc's automatic netsplit management09:02
Razor-Xor... were we splitted?09:03
Razor-Xand, the rest of them are in the main channel?09:03
Razor-X;009:03
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Razor-X*;)09:03
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Seveas:)09:03
Seveashi mako09:03
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kjonAnd another question. It looks like a cosmetic bug, but I'm not sure. Is possible to print odd or even pages in ooo with a single command?09:03
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kjonwithout writing in page's box something like: 1'3'5'7...09:04
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Razor-Xkjon: in KPDF, you can09:04
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liableis there a few probs with freenode at the mo?09:05
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Razor-Xbut, that comes with KDE, not sure about XPDF (they render the same)09:05
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Razor-Xwow, this is crazy ;)09:05
liablehah, I take that as a yes.09:05
kjonkpdf??? Sounds like a pdf app. for kde... Am I wrong?09:05
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Razor-Xyes, yes it is09:05
blrichcan someone tell me to install a .deb package from just a .deb file?09:05
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revalRazor-X: I know this is a newby question, but how do I get all the stuff I'd want in terms of patches?  to makes ure I have everything I should have09:05
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kjonblrich: dpkg -i "foo".deb09:06
liableblrich: dpkg -i foo09:06
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Razor-Xreval: hmmmm?09:06
blrichliable, kjon thanks=)09:06
Razor-Xwhat do you mean by patches?09:06
cyphasewhich theme do you guys use?09:06
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revalRazor-X: it's the synaptic package manager, right?09:06
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kjonyou're welcome ^^!09:06
cyphasewow09:06
cyphasenet merge09:06
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Razor-Xreval: depends if you want to use synaptic (which is a frontend for the terminal apt-get) or apt-get (or aptitude)09:06
Hieronymusshocking! 22 people were left :D09:06
Amaranthof course, i'd have to get my linux HD working before i could use it again...09:07
Razor-XAmaranth: how does it render?09:07
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revalRazor-X: I'll try the synaptic and if it somehow messes things up I'll just install a lower version of linux so I can run the programs I want to run, heh09:07
calamari_hi09:07
AmaranthRazor-X: Better than x/g/kpdf, from what i've seen09:07
kjonAnd finally, I'm writing from Chile, so I wan't to ask my last question. Time here is 03'07 am and I wanna go "tuto" (sleep)...09:07
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Amaranthkpdf and gpdf are just xpdf integrated with KDE and GNOME, afaik09:07
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Razor-XAmaranth: lemme check it out09:08
kjonIs there any app like fineprint in the linux world??? (please... say yes!!! :( )09:08
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calamari_okay, I have my two Ubuntu machines networked.  How can I access the /dev/hda1 device on the laptop from my main system?09:08
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Razor-XAmaranth: ahhh, Gnome uses GPDF?09:08
Razor-XKPDF uses its own rendering engine09:08
AmaranthRazor-X: If it's even in hoary it's going to be crap09:08
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AmaranthRazor-X: No way.09:08
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Razor-Xyeah, it does09:08
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Razor-Xmade custom from the ground-up09:08
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Razor-Xthat's why it has some renderin differences from XPDF09:08
nothingmuchcan anyone reccomend a laptop-environment config switching thingamabob?09:09
blrichhey anyone know where to get that ubuntu backgorund image of a somewhat naked black woman? it caused "shockwaves of shock" when it was released apparently and now i can't find the image anywhere on the net/09:09
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Hieronymusblrich: ubuntu-calendar09:09
Hieronymus!info ubuntu-calendar09:09
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ubotuubuntu-calendar: (The Ubuntu Calendar features monthly updated artwork and themes), section gnome, is optional. Version: 5.03-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 44 kB09:09
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blrichHieronymus, thanks09:09
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blrichHieronymus, where does it put the images?09:10
HieronymusI think in /usr/share/backgrounds09:10
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HieronymusHieronymus: I think the woman is -march09:10
Hieronymus!info ubuntu-calendar-march09:10
ubotuubuntu-calendar-march: (Ubuntu calendar artwork for March), section gnome, is optional. Version: 5.03 (hoary), Packaged size: 355 kB, Installed size: 540 kB09:10
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kjonI'm leaving now. Thx Razor-X for your patience...09:10
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kjonBye peopla.09:10
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Razor-Xevince... lemme check it out09:11
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Madpilotso what's up with freenode tonight?09:12
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HieronymusMadpilot: some server(s) are not functioning alright, it seems09:13
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Razor-XHieronymus: that's an understatement09:13
blrichHieronymus, hmm, just has two backgrounds in there, the ones currently in the backgrounds list - blue sparkly one with hands, and a brown one09:13
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Hieronymusblrich: you need to download the individual -month packages09:13
Hieronymusubuntu-calendar-march for example09:13
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HieronymusBetter put these around Freenode: http://webshop.overtoom.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/OIN/nl_NL/-/EUR/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=bHsytOQjBbIymabxefY4u-I37N3YhSsg8ns=?ProductSKU=0575627509:13
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Madpilotbeen dropped three times now, which is a personal record...09:14
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HieronymusMadpilot: in a row?09:14
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Madpilotwell, in the last hour or 45min.09:15
Madpilotand there's only (only...) 295 ppl here; usually nr. 400 or more...09:15
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Razor-Xmy sources.list is huge ;009:17
Razor-X*;)09:17
unknowni got a question.09:17
unknowndoes Ubuntu support this video card09:17
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morenoknkn09:18
blrichHieronymus, ah, fantastic, nudity is now a part of my computer once again =D  the question is, where's the pic of the black girl looking serious with the frame cut off slightly below her shoulder blades? oh well, i'lkl settle for the one of her stretching09:18
unknownDiamon S80 128 MB DDR Radeon 920009:18
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unknown?09:18
blrichtherei is no corrolation09:18
cafuegounknown: Yes09:18
unknownreally?09:18
bob2er09:18
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cafuegounknown: Yes, fully supported.09:18
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bob2try to keep it on-topic, folks09:18
unknownslackware didnt support that09:18
unknownnice...09:19
Hieronymusblrich: I don't know, just install them all and searcht the /usr/share/backgrounds directory09:19
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unknownwhat sound engine?09:19
unknownALSA?09:19
cafuegothe question is, where's the pic of the bob2 looking serious with the frame cut off slightly below his shoulder blades?09:19
unknowni'm getting my info up2date:)09:19
blrichHieronymus, done, it's all good, i have my daily dose of hot naked black women now, it's all fine =)09:19
cafuegounknown: 2.6 kernels tend to use alsa, yes.09:19
bob2cafuego: google, dude ;p09:19
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cafuegobob2: Oh sorry, I had content filtering enabled09:20
bob2hahaha09:20
unknownso is KDE included in the free cds?09:20
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unknownor do i need apt that09:20
cafuegoif there's too much untanned white, it gets blocked09:20
bob2unknown: not from shipit, no09:20
cafuegounknown: probably apt; or if you can download, try Kubuntu.09:21
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unknownoh is there an apt database?09:21
unknownim used to freebsd09:21
unknownsorry if im bothering09:21
unknown:)09:21
unknown16 yearolds need knowledge09:21
bob2cafuego: my hair is tanned at least09:21
Razor-XAmaranth: I can't see a difference between evince and XPDF09:21
Razor-X*KPDF09:21
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Razor-Xunknown: and 15 year-olds provide too ;)09:21
bob2one is the future of pdf viewing, one is not09:22
unknownur 15?09:22
Razor-Xyeah09:22
blrichcan anyone tell me - what's the package for the latest dev version of the ubuntu 2.6 kernel? so i can fold some drivers into it and compile them in09:22
AmaranthRazor-X: Probably because KPDF switched to using poppler, which evince uses too.09:22
unknownwat programming language?09:22
cafuegobob2: Your hair is the future of pdf viewing?09:22
rendimy HD 4 Gb and i partisi 2 for xp and 2 for ubuntu, this mornig i'm reinstal xp, but i can't see my box ?? any one help me ??09:22
Razor-XKubuntu comes with KDE, and a host of applications meant for KDE09:22
AmaranthRazor-X: I knew they were planning on doing it, didn't think it happened already.09:22
Razor-XAmaranth: did it?09:22
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Razor-Xi'll uninstall the 40 MB then ;)09:22
cafuegounknown: apt database?09:22
rendianyone get my ubuntu back without reinstall it ??09:22
unknownyeah so i can see whats to install, or like rpmfinder09:23
AmaranthRazor-X: It's either using XPDF or libpoppler09:23
rendimy grub lost too09:23
bob2blrich: it depends what you're trying to do, exactly09:23
cafuegounknown: After installation, 'apt-cache search <string>'09:23
unknownoh cool09:23
unknownrazor-x do you program?09:23
cafuego!dstats hoary09:23
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.09:23
Razor-Xunknown: used to, my knowledge has deteriorated over time09:23
unknownwhat did you know?09:24
cafuegounknown: 31GB of stuff, lots of apckages...09:24
unknownwoah09:24
Razor-XQB and C++ were my main, with some C# I learned recently09:24
unknownmore than slackware09:24
blrichbob2 trying to get madwifi drivers working to get my netgear wireless card working. have the drivers, but they're in code form - i have to put them into a 2.6 kernel tree and compile the kernel, i presume. so, i need the code for the latest ubuntu kernel09:24
unknownhow much C++09:24
cafuegounknown: yeah, it's doubtful you'll need anything that's not already available.09:24
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Razor-Xnot all that much, C++ console, and C++ with OpenGL for non-console stuff09:24
bob2blrich: you're sure the ubuntu madwifi drivers won't work?09:24
unknown:)I know a lot of C++09:24
AmaranthRazor-X: Looks like KPDF is still using XPDF.09:25
unknownAssembly, PHP, VB, Delphi09:25
unknownand remember i'm 16;)09:25
unknownhahaa09:25
cafuegoEvince had major issues printing last week.09:25
rendi!grub09:25
Razor-Xbut, like I said, my knowledge has atrophied as I haven't programmed in a while09:25
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto09:25
AmaranthRazor-X: poppler is XPDF turned into a library with enhancements09:25
unknownmov ebx,'h'09:25
Razor-XAmaranth: I thought KPDF had its own rendering engine *shrugs*09:25
unknowni don't kno assembly well enough to program in it nemore09:25
Razor-Xunknown: ;)09:25
unknownjust crack09:25
unknown:-d09:25
blrichbob2, i can't get them, i type in apt-cache search madwifi and it comes up with the 'restricted modules' packages. i installed one, reset, etc, wifi card still won't work. don't know the name of the driver to modprobe even09:25
Razor-Xyes, and a _bit_ of ASM09:25
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unknowncracking programs is fun09:25
Razor-Xfrom the excellent book, Art of Assembly09:26
unknownlol i read it09:26
bob2blrich: if you don't know the name of the module, how would compiling them help?09:26
unknowngot yahoo or something?09:26
unknownso we can talk09:26
cafuegobob2: Mebbe give 'module-assistant' a try.09:26
blrichbob2, but if they just give you the ach_pci et.c drivers, well then they're already getting autoloaded and not working anyway09:26
Razor-XAIM, I have yahoo, but i'm gonna set it up in my emacs later09:26
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unknownemacs?09:26
bob2blrich: run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'09:26
blrichbob2, well i presume i'll get some more information when i go in and configure the kernel09:26
unknownaint that a editor09:26
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echylounknown, yes09:26
atevesis it possible to have more than one file column in nautilus' listview?09:26
bob2blrich: no, I don't think you will.  what sort of card is it?09:26
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unknownadd me09:27
Razor-Xunknown: yeah, it is09:27
unknownaim: natalichwolf09:27
blrichbob2, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 is already the newest version.09:27
Razor-Xonly, emacs can do a ton ton more09:27
unknownyahoo: _myth09:27
AmaranthRazor-X: In computing, KPDF is the PDF reader of the KDE Desktop Environment. It is based on xpdf.09:27
unknowntake ur pic09:27
unknownthat's my info09:27
AmaranthRazor-X: Of course, this is just what wikipedia says...09:27
rendihei how to get grub back09:27
rendianyone know ?????/09:27
Amaranth!grub09:28
ubotumethinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto09:28
echyloubotu, grub09:28
blrichbob2, i have a netgear 802.11g pci card, according to the ubuntu wiki it should have the ar5212 chipset (it does) and bring up an interface called ach or ap0 or something, which it hasn't and won't09:28
cafuegounknown: No, it's a BSD operating system without a microkernel.09:28
unknownoh09:28
Razor-XI was reading an interview with the author09:28
rendiAmaranth i'm del on my partition on hda109:28
Razor-Xso, maybe they switched *shrug(09:28
blrichbob2, someone suggested madwifi, i presume this is a different set of drivers. found a deb of them on the net, it unpacks to a tar.gz of the madwifi modules source in /usr/src/09:28
rendiall with xp09:28
cafuegoemacs is satan09:28
rendiand now i can't get back my box :(09:28
unknowni like windows(just kidding)09:28
unknowni can't program on linux yet09:29
bob2blrich: no, ignore the madwifi suggestion09:29
Amaranthcafuego: What OS are you talking about?09:29
bob2blrich: they're already included in ubuntu09:29
cafuegoAmaranth: Emacs09:29
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Amaranthcafuego: emacs is BSD without a microkernel?09:29
cafuegoAmaranth: it's a collection of daemons ;-009:29
blrich_bob2, so yeah, i'm confused09:29
rendiAmaranth do you know how to install grub again without reinstall my ubuntu ??09:29
blrich_bob2, can you even get development packages for the ubuntu kernel?09:29
Amaranthrendi: I only know what http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto says09:30
Razor-Xunknown: it won't take long to shift to linux09:30
rendii have read it09:30
cafuegorendi: Boot the cd in rescue mode, reinstall grub.09:30
Razor-Xespecially if you've been using text to compile09:30
rendinothing help me09:30
unknownlol i know i need my webcam support from gaim09:30
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Razor-XI use TNT, emacs AIM client ;)09:30
rendioh ic09:30
rendiok i'll try now09:30
unknowni use yahoo:P09:30
rendic ya09:30
cafuegorendi: Which partition is your Linux one?09:30
bob2blrich_: of course, but you don't need them09:31
bob2blrich_: you're getting way ahead of yourself here09:31
unknownok well i like this channel nice people09:31
unknownwho actually HELP09:31
unknownnot give wrong answers09:31
unknownor short ones09:31
unknowni like that09:31
Razor-X;)09:31
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cafuegounknown: Well you know, I'm right by definition.09:31
bob2blrich_: ath_pci is the driver you want09:31
blrich_bob2, okay, what should i do?09:31
Razor-Xcafuego: in the null set ;)09:31
blrich_bob2, ah yes, and it's being autoloaded at startup anyway09:31
unknownanyway if you want to add my contacts they are: aim: natalichwolf and Yahoo: _myth09:32
bob2blrich_: so, there you go.09:32
unknownbe my guest to add me09:32
blrich_bob2, but the ath0 interface isn't coming up, and in dmesg the drivers are marked experimental, and so i summised they're not working09:32
unknownill be back tomorrow09:32
Razor-Xunknown: if you wanna see what my emacs desktop looks like, I can show you a picture09:32
cafuegobob2: Yeah, he was loading that earlier and got an error. The driver mentioned 'EXPERIMENTAL' so you know...09:32
unknownsure09:32
bob2cafuego: ah09:32
unknownbefore i go09:32
bob2blrich_: paste the output of "dmesg | grep -i ath" to #flood09:32
blrich_bob2, so i wanted to try madwifi. and i have no problem compiling my own kernels etc., but i'm new to ubuntu. i used debian potato once for a few months, 6 years ago. since then i've been using gentoo, os my ubuntu/debian skills are rusty09:33
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blrich_bob2, k09:33
bob2blrich_: so, as I already said before, linux-restricted-modules includes madwifi, prebuilt09:33
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blrich_bob2, pasted09:33
blrich_bob2, ah, okay09:34
atevesis it possible to have more than one file column in nautilus' listview?09:34
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acid2Anyone know where I could find libgladeui-1 ?09:34
Razor-X!info libgladeui-109:35
Razor-Xdoesen't exist ;)09:35
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Razor-Xdo you need that one, specifically?09:35
unknownrazor going to show?09:35
enoI deleted my applacations menu, places menu and settings menus, and I can't figure out how to get them back.  PLease help.09:35
acid2Yea, I need that specific one09:36
acid2It's for Glade3 (which hasnt been officially released)09:36
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bob2blrich_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972, which is a shame09:36
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blrich_bob2, so what do you think? when i run iwconfig, it says it finds interfaces lo, eth0 and sit0, none with 'wireless extensions'. i have supplicant installed but no idea of how to configure it. all in all i'm lost09:36
calamari_anyone know why the using network setup dialog makes it so I can't run any more programs?09:36
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noob-leechI'm having some problems with libtool.09:37
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noob-leechWhen I'm trying to compile something, I get this error message... "libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration".09:38
blrich_bob2, ah, dammit, well thankyou anyway, hopefully this will work  =)09:38
noob-leechIs there anything I could fool around with the libtool?09:38
noob-leech*with for09:38
bob2blrich_: should work out of the box in breezy09:38
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enono advice on how to restore my applications menu after deleting it?09:39
enoit's ok, I should be in bed anyways09:39
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IceDC571ouch.. i'm on kde right now lol09:39
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calamari_is ubuntu able to handle more than one network connection at a time?  when I activate eth0 my pp0 stops working09:40
bob2of course it can09:40
bob2you need to configure them correctly, tho09:40
bob2which whatever wrapper tool you're using may not be doing09:40
IceDC571hmm.. kde's default fonts are huge.. i wonder why09:40
calamari_bob2: oic.. I blame the network setup dialog, then :)09:40
decaf_awayIceDC571: me too09:41
blrich_bob2, hot09:41
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calamari_since it's crashing me like crazy :)09:41
IceDC571decaf_away: aren't you supposed to be away?09:41
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anacronIceDC571: i think that too, font's are a way too big, makes me mad when i have always resize them09:41
IceDC571anacron: do you use kde yourself?09:42
anacronno09:42
anacronor, not anymore09:42
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enothanks anyways, I can try back tomorrow09:43
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IceDC571okay so i installed kubuntu-desktop.. right after that i type sudo aptitude install k3b, and it says all my kde packages are not being used, aptitude will remove all 400 of them.. so it removes them without asking me09:44
IceDC571i thought that was really strange09:44
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Computer__Guruthat's pretty odd, especially considering k3b is installed by default with ubuntu09:44
Computer__Guruthats why you dont use aptitude09:44
IceDC571i know, i tried apt-get and it worked just fine09:45
bob2I'm 99% sure k3b is not installed by default09:45
anacronme too09:45
IceDC571i tried aptitude again with sudo aptitude install cdrdao (i was actually missing this) and it removes all my KDE apps again09:45
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Computer__Guruit was on mine or i installed it without realizing it ;)09:45
IceDC571which is sad, because i really liked aptitude09:46
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Computer__Guruwhat's wrong with apt-get?09:46
bob2does apt do the same thing?09:46
bob2Computer__Guru: apt-get is a fairly low-level tool09:46
IceDC571bob2: apt-get didnt remove anything09:46
mindampwhenever i try to browse to localhost:631 and do manage printers>add printers, it prompts me for the usual username/password which is root/***, however it won't accept it09:46
Computer__Guruthat's odd, i'm certain i read somewhere that it's the user side of the apt package management system09:47
mindampim assuming this is related to the no root login for gnome under ubuntu09:47
bob2IceDC571: did you configure aptitude to install recommends/suggests?09:47
mindampand please don't recommend the gnome print manager09:47
IceDC571bob2: um. im not sure what you mean by that. so i guess not?09:47
mindampcause im working with cups-pdf09:47
Computer__Gurumindamp: sudo passwd09:47
anacronwhat's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?09:47
Computer__Guru:D09:47
bob2mindamp: no, the web interface is disabled, and the gnome applet thing asks for your password09:48
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bob2IceDC571: go into the options and check09:48
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mindampcomputer_guru...09:48
mindampthat doesn't do the trick09:48
bob2anacron: aptitude is a higher level tool, and does things like tracking packages that were only installed to satisfy dependencies, as well as logging changes and having a curses interface09:48
Computer__Guruim still waiting to hear what's low-level about apt-get09:48
mindampi tried that about 4 days ago09:48
mindampwhen i first installed the OS09:48
Computer__Guruoh well then you set a root password at that point, so you have a root account09:49
IceDC571bob2: yes, i have it enabled09:49
IceDC571bob2: i think i know where it went wrong09:49
bob2there you go09:49
mindampthe root account is already there dude09:49
bob2Computer__Guru: see above09:49
mindampdoes anyone here know what they are talking about?09:49
mindampi need help with cups09:49
Computer__Guruso basically it's prettier09:49
Hackmohey all, can anyone help me with my webcam problem?09:49
IceDC571bob2: i had the ubuntu-desktop installed too, maybe my system thought i was staying with ubuntu-desktop, thats why it removed kubuntu-desktop09:49
Computer__Guruand for people who know less about how debian works09:49
Computer__Gurugotchya09:49
bob2Computer__Guru: er, no, that's not at all what I said09:50
mindampmy god09:50
mindampyes apt-get is archaic09:50
mindampcan we move on?09:50
Computer__Guruworks great for me :)09:50
bob2nice attitude, too09:50
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mindampyes well bash works well also09:50
mindampso blah blah blah09:50
mindampcups anyone?09:50
Computer__Guru*shrug* I've been using debian for the better part of five years, dude... kinda hard not to get a little defensive over your package management system at that point :)09:51
Computer__GuruI don't use cups, sorry09:51
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Computer__Guruhell, ive been on knoppix for 2 years09:51
IceDC571i thought cups was installed by default?09:51
mindampoh my god09:51
bob2it is indeed09:51
Computer__Gurujust switched to ubuntu 2 days ago09:51
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IceDC571Computer__Guru: im thinking about switching to debian because im too bored09:52
Computer__GuruIceDC571: you're on debian09:52
mindampis everyone stoned in here or something?09:52
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mindspinwhere do I add a font to become usable systemwide?09:52
IceDC571i know i am, i just want to install a minimal system and build up from there09:52
mindampa 5 year debian veteran would be able to answer this simple question09:52
Computer__Gurumindamp: no, printers are a bitch09:52
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Ghetekis there something like vnc for ubuntu linux command line?09:52
Computer__Guruconsole font, or x font?09:52
mindspinxfont09:52
bob2mindamp: please stop being obnoxious09:52
Computer__GuruGhetek: yeah, ssh09:52
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bob2Computer__Guru: ubuntu is not debian09:53
Computer__Guruubuntu is most certainly debian09:53
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Computer__Gurucat /etc/debian_version:09:53
Computer__Guru3.109:53
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Computer__Guruimagine that09:53
bob2Computer__Guru: no, it is not.  it is based on it, and similar, but certainly not identical.09:53
bob2Computer__Guru: yes, that was left there deliberately09:53
IceDC571lol, wonderful..another war09:53
mindamphttp://i-admin.blogspot.com/2004/12/solution-for-web-admin-interface-for.html09:53
mindampthanks anyways idiots09:53
mindamppeace09:53
Computer__Guruto show that it's a debian system. without debian, ubuntu would not exist09:53
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Computer__Guruim looking mindamp09:54
Computer__Guruholdon09:54
bob2Computer__Guru: yes, we know that, but please don't claim they are the same09:54
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Computer__Gurui hate when they do that09:54
Computer__Gurunot the same, not by a long shot09:54
cafuegoHmm, odd.09:54
bob2Computer__Guru: so, please don't make claims like "ubuntu is most certainly debian"09:54
Computer__Guruubuntu's sources are actually maintained and updated with some form of regularity09:54
bob2thanks.09:54
cafuegoDo I need to just enable SMP on a HT box make ht work? Or did I miss something?09:54
nikkiaComputer__Guru: without mcc its doubtful any of the linux distros would exist, but it'd be hard to claim all distros are mcc :)09:54
Computer__Gurubut it is still debian at heart, and that's what matters :)09:55
bob2cafuego: you need some acpit stuff, too..."acpi cpu enumeration" sticks in my mind09:55
Computer__Gurunikkia: if it weren't for minix, none of this would exist :D09:55
IceDC571i'm still keeping ubuntu on my other machine, i like it09:55
cafuegobob2: Lemme check...09:55
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nikkiaComputer__Guru: that one is less certain09:55
bob2cafuego: the 686-smp ubuntu/debian kernels Just Work, fwiw09:55
nikkiaComputer__Guru: without minix linus would just have likely created a 'free unix clone' earlier09:55
cafuegobob2: yeah, but those aren't an option on this box.09:56
bob2cafuego: ah09:56
IceDC571is there a good place for debian stuff like ubuntuforums?09:56
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Computer__Gurunikkia: Linus Torvalds began work ont he first linux kernel and filesystem out of frustration. the developers of minix would not allow him any lee-way on his desire to develop for the minix system. since it was closed source, he began a project to create a 'minix like' kernel and fs09:56
Computer__Guruthus, linux was born09:56
bob2nikkia: boot strapping from dos would have been harder09:56
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nikkiaComputer__Guru: yes, i know that, i was using linux at the time09:57
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bob2Computer__Guru: I'm pretty sure he started it to learn about assembling programming, independant of any license issues09:57
Computer__Gurui started a little later09:57
bob2IceDC571: the debian-user mailing list09:57
nikkiaComputer__Guru: but to argue that 'without minix linux wouldn't exist' is hard, without minix linus would have had *nothing* to scratch his 'linux on his PC for free' itch, and might have just as easily decided to write linux a few months earlier09:57
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Ghetekwhat server/client can i get in universe that will let me easily control another ubuntu linux machine in console?09:58
jtan325Ghetek, ssh09:58
Computer__Guruokay, i'll concede that09:58
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Ghetekkeyword=easo;y09:58
Ghetek*easily09:58
fishfilletelo ubuntu.. my first time here..09:58
fishfilletany filipinos?09:58
nikkiaComputer__Guru: and no, minix wasn't 'closed source'09:58
bob2Ghetek: install openssh-server on the machine you want to control, then just ssh in09:58
jtan325Ghetek, it's not super easy, but any other option is probably nt as secure09:58
Computer__Guruthe article i read said it was09:59
nikkiaComputer__Guru: i mean, the standard distribution for minix was to buy the book that contained the floppy disks *and the entire source code*09:59
Computer__Gurucould be wrong tho09:59
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Computer__Gurulike i said, i came in a little later... circa 9609:59
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Computer__Guruslackware 1.2 or so i think it was09:59
TokenBadhow install OSS?09:59
nikkiaComputer__Guru: the real problem with minix was that it was a flawed architecture09:59
bob2TokenBad: you mean "How do I configure Ubuntu to use the OSS audio drivers?"?09:59
TokenBadyes10:00
bob2TokenBad: blacklist the ALSA module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist10:00
The_VoxComputer__Guru: the problem with minix was that while you could do changes to it, and had access to the source (it was/is an OS made for teaching in schools), you couldn't distribute modified minix and most changes were rejected by Tanneboum(sp?) because he wanted the OS to be as simple as possible so as to keep it easy to understand.10:00
bob2TokenBad: "lsmod" will help you find it10:00
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nikkiaby 1992 even tanenbaum had given up on minix, concentrating on amoeba10:00
Computer__Gurui went from slackware in 96 to redhat in 98 to deb in 2000, and ive been deb ever since.. with the occasional windows here and there10:00
Ghetekbob2: yeah thanks, ssh seems not too bad10:01
bob2ssh is about your only option10:01
bob2which is ok, since it's awesome10:01
Computer__Guruwow, you guys are nerds :D10:01
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bob2except over high latency links or cpu-starved machines10:01
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Ghetekyeah i just sshed localhost10:01
Ghetekit was suprisingly simple10:01
noob-leechUmm... a question... when I tried to compile something, I got this error message... "libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration".  Is there anything I can do to fool around with the libtool and the Makefile?10:01
Computer__Gurussh -luser hostname10:01
nikkiaComputer__Guru: i went from mcc in 92, to yggdrasil, to slackware, to slakware, to slackware, to redhat, to suse, to slackware, to knoppix, to kubuntu :)10:02
The_VoxComputer__Guru: I was there for the whole thing...I wasn't a minix user, but I used to read the NG back when Linus posted the first "I'm writing an OS" post10:02
bob2noob-leech: what are you trying to compile?10:02
TokenBadhmm...bob2 when did that not show anything for alsa..just some stuff that have oss10:02
bob2noob-leech: and do you have "build-essential installed?10:02
Computer__Guruknoppix sure was nice wasnt it10:02
noob-leechbob2: Yes.10:02
cyphasewhich theme do you guys use?10:02
bob2TokenBad: no modules starting with snd_?10:02
Computer__Gurugave debian what it needed, a user friendly config :D10:02
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TokenBadI see like 9 things that start with snd10:03
nikkiaThe_Vox: i got involved a couple of months after the announcement, i was suggested to look at linux 'as its not as expensive as ours' by the guy that ran BSDi :)10:03
ch_604hayyyyy i cant hear anything from my soundcard10:03
bob2TokenBad: then you're using alsa.  why do you want to use oss?10:03
fishfilletch_604: try looking for a solution at www.ubuntuguide.org10:03
nikkiaThe_Vox: i was ready to pay $700 for BSDi, didn't want to - as i was a student, but was ready to, he told me not to bother and try linux instead, that was version 0.1310:03
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TokenBadcause sound in a game don't work like it should..and in one of the forums they said to use oss and it fixed the problem10:03
The_Voxnikkia: I actually didn't get into linux 'til ygrdaasil started...I was waaaay too lazy to be messing with trying to install from scratch :)10:03
djpch_604: check your volume levels are turned up and not muted10:03
ch_604aaaaand firefox makes me freeze10:03
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bob2TokenBad: I'd be pretty surprised if that helped10:04
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ch_604no, music just wont play10:04
nikkiaThe_Vox: mcc wasn't bad, at the time the entire distro fitted on 2 floppies anyway :)10:04
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cyphasech_604, how can fire make you freeze?10:04
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TokenBadwell can't hurt to try it...10:04
ch_604memory ._.10:04
rendi!mount10:04
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?10:04
The_Voxnikkia: hehehe10:04
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Ghetek!dict ubuntu10:04
ubotucould not find definition for ubuntu10:04
nikkiaThe_Vox: if you wanted X, you compiled it yourself10:04
Madpilotcyphase: i wound up rolling my own theme... none of the defaults worked for me...10:04
Computer__Gurubut for as long as ive been in linux, and as much as ive had to revert to windows here and there, ive always had a linux box10:05
djpch_604: do you have an nvidia graphics card?10:05
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nikkiaThe_Vox: even when yggdrasil came around, it wasn't much better, i remember labouring for hours to get xview/openview to compile on it :)10:05
ch_604no, svirge10:05
TokenBadbob2 but to keep it from using it I would put those 9 things that start with snd into the blacklist file?10:05
ch_604what does that have to do with my sound10:05
Computer__Guruive also had a little experience with irix (6.14) and quite a bit of experience with FreeBSD 4 when I ran my DALnet servers10:05
cyphaseMadpilot, do you mean you combined parts of different themes, or made a completely new one?10:05
ch_604!good bot10:05
ubotuthanks ch_604 :)10:05
djpch_604: firefox freeze10:05
ch_604oh10:05
bob2TokenBad: well, the one for your card should be enough10:06
ch_604thats system memory, not video10:06
rendi!mount10:06
uboturendi: No idea10:06
TokenBadhow do I know which is for my card?10:06
bob2you can use the bot in /msg, btw10:06
Computer__Gurubut once i went debian, i never strayed from apt10:06
djpch_604: i know that nvidia drivers cause a problem10:06
The_Voxnikkia: my first yggdrasil install took me about a week, IIRC, to get something that actually was usable :)10:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu hi10:06
nikkiaComputer__Guru: my unix experience started on a sequent running dynix, and a solbourne running OS/9 (ok, its not unix, but its close)10:06
ubotuprivet, church_of_foamy10:06
Madpilotcyphase: combined parts.10:06
rendihow to mount cdrom guy's10:06
ch_604!cdrom10:06
ubotuI don't know, ch_60410:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o think the bots busted10:06
I-kahaiiiiiii10:06
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Computer__Guruoh in high school i worked on a VAX/VMS system10:06
nikkiaComputer__Guru: from there i went to ultrix, then sunos, and wanted a unix on my PC so badly :)10:06
bob2this discussion is great, but maybe more approrpriate for #ubuntu-offtopic10:06
Madpilotrendi: they should automount10:07
bob2thanks folks10:07
rendi!mount10:07
ubotuNo idea, rendi10:07
cyphasedoes anyone know where i can get the ubotu source?10:07
djpch_604: are you trying to playback mp3's and don't have the correct plugin installed?10:07
bob2rendi: doing it again and again will not give you different results10:07
TokenBadbob2 once I had to blacklist I will have to reboot right?10:07
cyphaseubotu, where are you?10:07
ubotucyphase: I think you lost me on that one10:07
bob2cyphase: blootbot.sf.net10:07
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Computer__GuruChurcH_of_FoamY: I have every single foamy episode :)10:07
bob2TokenBad: that's the simplest way, yes10:07
cyphasethanx bob210:07
Madpilotrendi: does this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive10:07
rendioh sorry10:07
nikkiaThe_Vox: my strongest yggdrasil memory is that the CD they sent me didn't work, you had to use a kernel from a floppy they sent seperately :)10:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru awsome ^_^ a Foamy fan ^_^10:07
rendii'm bot with rescue10:07
Computer__Guruwas there even bootable cd's in 92?10:08
rendiand want get back my grub10:08
Tarcastilhey, I'm new to ubuntu, so hopefully this is an easy question. How do I get the command on this page to work? http://shinzui.org/space/Japanese+Input+on+Ubuntu10:08
The_Voxnikkia: lol! I don't actually remember much of that <chuckle> :)10:08
ch_604no it was a wav10:08
Computer__Gurumy god the coffee's empty you muthafucka are crazy down here its empty like the head ont he shelf of a dead mans office10:08
ch_604i think10:08
bob2Computer__Guru: dude.10:08
ch_604ill install lame anyways10:08
rendiand  thes system say insert ubuntu cd again !_!10:08
Computer__Gurubob2: foamy10:08
cafuegoComputer__Guru: Of course.10:08
rendibob2 can help me10:09
Computer__Guruactually10:09
MadpilotComputer__Guru: wth?10:09
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Computer__Gurupillz-e10:09
bob2rendi: I haven't seen you ask a question10:09
rendi?10:09
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru holy crap longtime no see man welcome back ^_^10:09
bob2rendi: you seem to just keep making vague assertions and poking the bot10:09
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bob2rendi: what exactly is your problem?10:09
rendiok, i'm bot from rescue mode to instal my grub and system say i have to  insert my cd, but i have already insert it10:10
Computer__Gurubob2: did i mention i actually HAVE a shirt that says BOFH on the front and "USER ERROR, PLEASE ASK YOUR MOTHER TO REINSTALL" ont he back :D10:10
TarcastilHow do I get this apt-get command to work? http://shinzui.org/space/Japanese+Input+on+Ubuntu It's supposed to be for hoary, but nothing comes up10:10
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Computer__GuruChurcH_of_FoamY: you dont know me, im brand new. we're just bretheren in the church of foamy :)10:10
bob2Tarcastil: no need to ask over and over;  I'd try asking on the mailing list10:10
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru oh ok for a second there i thought you where bob2 O_o10:11
Computer__GuruLOL10:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYfeels like a dolt >.<10:11
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IceDC571i feel so 640x480 on kubuntu10:11
Computer__Guruso lady with the purple hair how are you with the getting better and the lack of dying and the needles int he eyes for the recovery of fun?10:12
spinifexIceDC571: feel?10:12
IceDC571i dont think its just the fonts.. everything is huge10:12
MidNightRaVeNanyone have a clue what package i would use to sync and ipod?10:12
MidNightRaVeNan*10:12
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Computer__Guruhrmm10:12
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Computer__Guruwell, i think hotplug would find it10:12
spinifexIceDC571 I actually feel the opposite.  Kubuntu is too small..10:12
spinifex=p10:12
Computer__Gurubut i dunno to sync it10:12
bob2try to stay on-topic, people10:12
BeatYouanyone know how to configure users with wu-ftpd10:12
bob2#ubuntu-offtopic is more approriate for storytelling10:12
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: gtkpod10:12
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: does it make like an archive list as well?10:13
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: archive list?10:13
MidNightRaVeNComputer__Guru: thx =)10:13
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IceDC571spinifex: how is kubuntu too small?? thats strange10:13
Computer__Gurunetime10:13
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: like take all the songs and organize them or such?10:13
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: sort of10:13
spinifexIceDC571: by default all of the fonts appear super tiny on my screen10:13
noob-leechbob2: Now I know where the problem is...10:14
noob-leech---> "LIBTOOL = @LIBTOOL@"10:14
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: lol kk =) thx! I'll give it a whirl10:14
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spinifexIceDC571: like 5 pixels high10:14
IceDC571spinifex: well maybe it tries to adjust to your resolution and its bad at it?10:14
noob-leechI need to add a --tag=foo somewhere after libtool10:14
noob-leech>_>10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just made my first cd in linux ^_^10:14
BeatYouanyone know how to configure users with wu-ftpd10:14
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: you probably want gtkpod-aac if you can find it, as the regular gtkpod in the repositories is built without AAC file support10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's a knoppix cd what pritty colours during boot10:14
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Computer__Gurui just switched from knoppix10:15
Computer__Guru3.9 is junk10:15
IceDC571does debian have a decent installer? or is it all manual?10:15
Computer__Guruand 3.7 is too outdated to use10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow i want to make ubuntu's boot look like knoppix10:15
Computer__Guruand i dont do even number knoppix versions out of superstition10:15
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: try splashy10:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru it just saved a customers ass yesterday10:15
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: crap...  most my songs are in AAC format right now too...10:15
Computer__Guruyeah its an okay rescue cd10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYrecoverd all the gunk on there xp box so i like it10:15
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: what was wrong with the customer's pc?10:15
Computer__Gurui still use it for that10:15
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Computer__Gurubut ubuntu ownz knoppix for an installed system, imo.. ymmv10:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYum powersurge corrupted the hd beyond it's ability to boot10:16
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nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: gtkpod-aac is in backports... but for some obscure reason, i'm using a non-ubuntu build of it from a debian repository, i can't remember the reason why i did that10:16
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: i have some windows user that when the desktop loads, all you can see is the background.. no start menu.. any idea whats wrong?10:16
MadpilotIceDC571: they're running Windows? :)10:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea lots and lots of spyware and/ or a virus10:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen that happens then the os has touble booting all it's components10:17
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: anything wrong with gtkpod-aac??? that you know of atleast?10:17
Computer__Gurumake an xp live cd, boot from that, mount the hard drive and run the hell out of ad-aware, spywareblaster, and spybot s&d10:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut in futere goto start and click on run programs10:17
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: overall? or the version in backports?10:17
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: well i ran a spyware and virus scan.. nothing came up10:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYand type in explorer.exe and that should fix your freinds problem10:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm you run an av prog?10:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYit is windows you know10:18
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: when i type in explorer.exe the start menu flashes and hides forever lol10:18
nikkiaahhhh, i remmeber why i'm not using backports' version10:18
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: version in backports?10:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmmm10:18
Computer__Guruinstall avast antivirus and schedule a boot-time scan10:18
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nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: the reason i switched to a debian build, was because the backports version is missing the scripts to handle Notes syncing10:18
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: i know way too much about windows.. im about ready to give up and say switch to linux10:18
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noob-leechIt finally compiles \o\ \o/ /o/.10:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYmight not be a bad idea i did and i was a lifetime windows user10:19
Computer__Gurunikkia: you went outside the universe?!?10:19
spinifexwhy are we talking about windows?  Besides, if you want antivirus, use Grisoft ( http://free.grisoft.com ) and run their dos scanner if you must10:19
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: there is a general issue with gtkpod too, in that the auto-mount doesn't seem to work, so i have to manually mount my ipod to the right place before I  start it10:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow i'm actually happy with my box and it works without fail10:19
IceDC571ChurcH_of_FoamY: i want to chain someone to a linux computer10:19
TokenBadbob2 ok got the oss default sink to give me sound10:19
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nikkiaComputer__Guru: i often do, there are some things missing/old in the repositories10:19
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^10:19
TokenBadbut the default source I hear nothing10:19
Computer__Gurunikkia: SHAME, a pox on your kin!10:19
nikkiaComputer__Guru: however, i feel comfortable with what i'm doing, so don't feel too intimidated if things break :P10:19
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: yea... i just installed it and it didn't really mount it at all. I'm going to have to get -acc anyway so I'll just start there.10:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust a hunch can you get a copy of norton 2003 with ghost?10:19
Computer__Gurunikkia: I'm just kidding, I install things from source fromt ime to time :)10:20
IceDC571hmm.. should i install debian or do a server ubuntu install?10:20
Computer__Guruas you already know10:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know where i can get splashy form?10:20
Computer__Gurui have it10:20
spinifex!info splashy10:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYIceDC571 get norton systemworks 2003 with ghost install it and run the repair feature10:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow it just sounds like a broken regestry link10:21
Computer__Guru-rw-r--r--  1 jay jay 414014 2005-07-10 05:55 splashy_0.1.5_i386.deb10:21
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spinifexugh, don't use norton!  =[10:21
MidNightRaVeN! backports10:21
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ubotuI heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/10:21
jsgotangcoIceDC571: any should do its basically the same :)10:21
Computer__Guruwhatis splashy:10:21
Computer__Gurusplashy: nothing appropriate.10:21
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: i'd recommend being very careful with backports...10:21
Computer__Guruhrmm10:21
Computer__Guruwhich splashy:10:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru can you give me a link to splashy?10:21
Computer__Guru/sbin/splashy10:21
jsgotangcoalthough some people still vouch for Debian as servers10:21
Computer__Guruthere we go10:21
Computer__Gurui'd be happy to email it to you10:21
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: in fact, for gtkpod-aac, you can just download the .deb and install it with dpkg -i, its safer than adding backports to your sources10:22
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: yeaaa.... i know... =/ have you had any problems with it yet?10:22
IceDC571im not using it as a server im just going to do a minimal install10:22
Computer__Gururemember to set lilo or grub to vga=79110:22
skaughtDoes anyone have any magical insight as to why Sound Juicer extracts at 2x speed, even with a CD-ROM with udma active?10:22
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IceDC571!udma10:22
ubotuIceDC571: I give up, what is it?10:22
IceDC571lol i dont know10:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven though it's norton it still actually has a part that works it's called one button check up it may save your freinds box10:22
nikkiaskaught: because that's all your CD is specced for for audio extraction ?10:22
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: where can i get the .deb? just google it?10:22
Computer__Gurui even have a kubuntu bootsplash screen with a pretty girl (vector drawn) on it10:22
Computer__GuruChurcH_of_FoamY: what's your email addy, ill send it to you10:23
IceDC571and all the linux users use gmail...10:23
nikkiaskaught: there is a SCSI2/ATAPI command that queries the audio extraction speed for the drive, a lot of cheaper drives report low speeds,  you might be able to ignore it, but i dunno10:23
spinifexwho wants 50 gmail accounts?10:23
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tiglionabbitwhoops, I didn't have my name on10:23
skaughtnikkia, Indeed, I can understand that10:23
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: just visit the URL that is listed for adding to sources.list for backports, and dive into the dirs until you find gtkpod-aac*.deb10:23
tiglionabbitanyway, I have a lot of faith in grisoft, and no faith in norton anymore10:24
IceDC571i give up.. ill just keep using ubuntu10:24
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MidNightRaVeNnikkia: lol i'm still pretty newb but i'll try. Think you can help me any with that?10:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here use chgb?10:25
paxcan alises take an external email addy where root can send emails?10:25
skaughtnikkia, It is a cheap laptop drive so I wouldn't be surprised. I'll just be more patient10:25
paxaliases*10:25
eyequeuepax:  yes10:25
eyequeuepax:  though it's advised to keep that on the same box10:25
tiglionabbitRazor-X: omgwtf, I'm using bitchx right now, and when I press tab for name completion, it prints out name options on top of the last few chat messages!  This is awful... how can you use this?10:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYruns linux on his ipod ^_^10:26
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/gtkpod-aac_0.88.1-0.0~5.04ubp1_i386.deb10:26
paxeyequeue: so root : pax@gmail.com?10:26
eyequeuepax:  and hope your connection to gmail is always good, heh10:26
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: so just do sudo apt-get http://blah blah blah?10:26
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: no10:26
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: download that .deb file10:26
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: kk =)10:27
tiglionabbitwhoa, I never considered installing remote files, that would be cool if it worked10:27
paxeyequeue: why is it asvised to keep it on ethe same box, isnt good idea to get that mail outta the box to keep it safe incase the box get owned?10:27
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: then do 'sudo dpkg -i gtkpod-aac_0.88.1-0.0~5.04ubp1_i386.deb'10:27
tiglionabbitblarg, ima boot back into ubuntu so I can use my precious irssi again.  brb10:27
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MidNightRaVeNwhat does the -i do?10:28
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: what does the -i do?10:28
Computer__Guruinstalls10:28
eyequeuepax:  in that case i'd duplicate it :)  say cron tells you "my external interface is broken" or something, for example10:28
MidNightRaVeNoo10:28
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: the only depend. that is likely to be an issue is libid3tag0, so you want to check that's installed first10:28
MidNightRaVeNkk =)10:28
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN:  'install'10:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlistens to system of a down while reading linux magazene ^_^10:28
paxeyequeue: great, so set the postmaster as the emila addy and then addy ; pax?10:29
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paxaddy: pax*10:29
Computer__Gurui really wish hitchhikers guide would hurry the hell up10:29
jamesDOODHi10:29
jamesDOODis there a channel for installation help10:29
eyequeuepax:  yeah, you can chain them (and i often do)10:29
jamesDOOD?10:29
nikkiaargh, i think i'm gonna get into trouble at work :(10:29
Computer__Guruyou're in it10:29
paxnice10:29
jamesDOODaha10:29
eyequeuejamesDOOD:  you're in it10:29
jamesDOODgreat10:29
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru that was the funnies movie i seen this year it so rocked10:29
BeatYoucan someone pastebin a default protftpd.conf file please?!?!?!10:29
BeatYoumine is borked10:30
Computer__Guruyeah it says itll be here in about 5 hours10:30
nikkiai'm supposed to email the woman in charge of these things every day i'm working from home, but all i get is an auto-response that she's left the company :(10:30
jamesDOODI'm getting an obscure message right after finishing the installation of Ubuntu warthog10:30
ameerHey installing a new harddrive10:30
ameerthis is an easy site..........10:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru you know anything about soundcards?10:30
jamesDOODit says: graphic interface does not load, would you like to see output?"10:30
ameerhave been trying to follow it for a whole night and reading everything back10:30
ameersorry folks: Hi everyone10:30
Computer__Gurui know its better to get one alsa recognizes out of the box :D10:30
jamesDOODI have a geforce 660010:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYjamesDOOD you runnin nvidia?10:30
jamesDOODyup10:31
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Computer__Guruthis might sound like a stupid question, but does ubuntu enable dma by default?10:31
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nikkiaComputer__Guru: maybe :)10:31
nikkiaComputer__Guru: it did on some of my drives, but not all10:31
Computer__Gurusudo hdparm -a /dev/hda:10:32
Computer__GuruPassword:10:32
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: heh... just relized that its i386 and i'm running 64 =/10:33
Computer__Guruoh BLAH10:33
Computer__Gurusudo is annoying10:33
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: hmm10:33
Computer__Guru{jay@psilocybin (~)}$: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda10:33
Computer__GuruPassword:10:33
Computer__Guru/dev/hda:10:33
Computer__Guru using_dma    =  1 (on)10:33
Computer__Guruthat works10:33
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MidNightRaVeNnikkia: might just have to go with the regular and just convert all my files lol10:33
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nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: i don't see a package of gtkpod-aac for amd6410:33
Computer__Guruit's off for my dvd-rw10:33
Computer__Guruthats gay10:34
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MidNightRaVeNnikkia: but it looks like synaptic does bring up the regular gtkpod, so i'm assuming that it'll work fine right?10:34
nikkiaComputer__Guru: yeah, it was off on my dvd-rw, and one of my hard drives10:34
eyequeueplease don't use that term here10:34
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: yes, if you don't mind no aac support :)10:34
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Computer__Gurunikkia: where would you recommend putting hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc so it happens allt he time by default?10:34
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: lol looks like all i got =D10:34
pepsiyay breezy!10:34
nikkiaComputer__Guru: there's a file10:34
pepsii broke my desktop with it :) joy10:34
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nikkiaComputer__Guru:  /etc/hdparm.conf10:35
Computer__Gurujo0 r4wk10:35
nikkiaComputer__Guru: be careful with it though10:35
Computer__Guruas smart as u are, ill bet ur hot too :D10:35
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Computer__Guruwill do10:35
nikkiai wouldn't recommend uncommenting any of the mult_sect_io lines :)10:35
MidNightRaVeNsooo... can you edit gnome and do koo stuff like transparent windows.... and if so... lol is there like a man on that?10:35
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TokenBadI was looking to download graphic drivers for my video card from nvidia and for linux they have 3 choices. linux ia32, linux amd64, and linux ia64...which should I get?10:35
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Computer__Gurunikkia10:36
onkarshindeTokenBad: Which processor do you have?10:36
Computer__Guruim gonna uncomment these10:36
Computer__Guru#/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 {10:36
Computer__Guru#       dma = on10:36
Computer__Guru#       interrupt_unmask = on10:36
Computer__Guru#       io32_support = 010:36
Computer__Guru#}10:36
Computer__Gurusound good?10:36
dailycraphi10:36
TokenBadum...10:36
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nikkiaComputer__Guru: yes, just uncomment the first 2, and last line  of that stanza10:37
BeatYouim getting an error when i try to start proftpd "ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.10:37
eyequeue#flood or pastebin10:37
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Computer__Guruty, ma'am10:37
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pitelComputer__Guru: where is it form? i would like to enable dma to my cdrom10:38
Computer__Gurupitel: /etc/hdparms.conf10:38
Computer__Guru-s10:38
TokenBadonkarshinde, AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+10:38
Computer__Guruits /etc/hdparm.conf10:38
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onkarshindeTokenBad: I think linux ia32 is the one for you.10:39
BeatYoucan someone please pastebin their proftpd.conf mine is messed up somehow10:39
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nikkiaBeatYou: sorry, i use vsftp10:39
BeatYounikkia, does it have any notible advantages over proftpd ?10:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcrawls off to corner to enjoy pizza for breakfast10:40
nikkiaBeatYou: it has the option to only respond to certain interfaces, which is why i couldn't live with proftpd10:40
pitelComputer__Guru: i guess it is10:40
nikkiaBeatYou: i wanted a ftpd that would only listen to LAN and localhost, not WAN10:40
Computer__Guruyou guess what is?10:40
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onkarshindeComputer__Guru: I suppose there is one. I had downloaded one about a year time ago.10:40
BeatYounikkia, ill try out vsftp then10:41
pitelpicasso: standalone flash player10:41
nikkiaBeatYou: vsftp is touted as a 'ftp daemon designed with security in mind'10:41
dailycrapdoes anybody know where i can find the file that lists the startup applictions for gnome?10:41
Computer__Guruyou're saying it's called picasso?10:41
nikkiaComputer__Guru: mplayer will play .swf files10:41
Computer__Guruno shit?10:41
Computer__Gurunice10:41
pitelComputer__Guru: no, it was mistake. it's from macromedia10:42
nikkiaand i've used, ffmpeg or transcode (forget which) to convert .swf to .avi10:42
nikkiatranscode, i think it was, but it needs a special input plugin10:42
nikkiabasically, because the only desktop video capture  i could find for X saved the resulting movie as a .swf :)10:43
BeatYoudailycrap: /etc/init.d ?10:43
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dailycrapthanks BeatYou10:43
nikkiaand my boss wanted a video capture of one of my projects running :)10:43
Computer__Gurunikkia: mplayer just harfed on me when i tried to play a .swf10:43
nikkiaComputer__Guru: hmmm, might need a special codec :/10:43
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: what is xmms mean? anything special?10:44
TokenBadok got the drivers...but when tried to run it says running x server..and can't install10:44
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: is = does*10:44
TokenBadI guess to fix that would have to boot to prompt?10:44
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: X Multi-Media System10:44
eyequeueXMMS (1)             - (unknown subject)10:44
eyequeuexmms (1)             - an audio player for X.10:44
eyequeueXmms (3pm)           - Interactive remote control shell for xmms10:44
Computer__Gurulibswfdec?10:44
Computer__Guruheh10:44
eyequeuegrr10:44
MidNightRaVeNthx =D!10:44
eyequeueX MultiMedia System10:44
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nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: i wouldn't recommend xmms tho10:44
zerokhi :-)10:44
nikkiait is very crash happy, i use beep-media-player, its a fork of xmms, and far more stable10:45
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: =( really? why's that?10:45
eyequeueis bmp in hoary?10:45
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nikkiaeyequeue: yes10:45
eyequeuek10:45
nikkiaeyequeue: but it is lacking plugins, i've had to compile some of them manually10:45
The_Voxwhen the damn thing isn't in the mood to kill my X, for reasons unknown10:45
nikkiaeyequeue: the aac and flac plugins i had to compile by hand10:45
MidNightRaVeNwill it play my aac files?10:45
scanwinderfasttrack won't connect with giFT anymore it comes up with the following error: GIFT-WARNING: FastTrack: tcp_open failed for 236.82.107.24. no route to host?10:45
MidNightRaVeNcrap...10:46
MidNightRaVeNlol10:46
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: not without compiling the aac plugins by hand, or getting them from somewhere else10:46
TokenBador how can I exit X?10:46
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Computer__Gurunikkia, there's always the packages swf-player, libswfdec0.3, and libswfdec0.3-dev :D10:46
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MidNightRaVeNjeez... i'll just use my XP to turn them all into mp3s then....10:46
Computer__Guruapt-cache search is your friend10:46
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nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: tbh, i'd recommend that anyway, there's nothing really like dbPowerAmp-convertor for linux, so converting aac->mp3 isn't fun10:47
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Computer__Guruman there's no sound10:48
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: what is the package for mp3s?10:48
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: it can be done on linux, but i've yet to find anything that automates it, it involves converting with faad&lame, then pulling id3s across with an extra tool10:48
othernoobwhat do you need to watch .rmvb files?10:48
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MidNightRaVeNnikkia: i'm too dumb still to do that =(10:48
BeatYounikkia, vsftpd works great haha, much faster than proftpd it seems also10:48
nikkiaBeatYou: its smaller, less bloated, so its not much of a surprise :)10:49
BeatYouyes its very slim10:49
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nikkiaBeatYou: of course, that means it lacks some of the more esoteric features from proftp, but big deal :)10:49
BeatYouchroot was easy to find as well10:49
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noob-leechDarn... I seriously hate BMP... =/10:50
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tiglionabbitsay, what's a program that will allow me to edit massive amounts of images in succession without crashing from memory overload?10:50
BeatYounoob-leech: who doesn't ?10:50
noob-leech>_<10:51
MidNightRaVeNnikkia: any suggestions on what package i should install so i can read mp3s?10:51
one_love_1980xmms10:51
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: in what sense do you mean 'read' ?10:51
jamesDOODHey peeps, how do I use dailup internet during the ubuntu install so it can do its updates?10:51
nikkiaMidNightRaVeN: for playback, i'd suggest beep-media-player10:51
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MidNightRaVeNnikkia: does vlc do like mp3 playback with a decoder installed? and a decoder is what i meant by "reader"10:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYBEEP ROCKS ^_^10:52
noob-leech-_-10:52
noob-leechBMP has just crashed on me again.10:52
nikkiaChurcH_of_FoamY: the new version coming soon looks real nice10:53
BeatYou4) Various reports have trickled in and indicate that vsftpd thumps wu-ftpd10:53
BeatYouin performance tests.10:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYneversion yay!10:53
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ChurcH_of_FoamYme wants me wants ^_^10:53
jamesDOODany idea how to use dialup in the ubuntu installer (warty warthog)10:53
BeatYounikkia: i just messed with wu-ftpd and it seemed just as bloated as proftpd was10:54
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nikkiaBeatYou: as i said, i wanted something that would only respond to specified interfaces, vsftp was all i found :/10:54
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tiglionabbitwhoops, closed my ubuntu window while combatting 24 gthumb launches when I meant to open them in the gimp10:54
tiglionabbitI mean my chat window10:55
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to change the bootloader to to vga=791?10:55
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MidNightRaVeNbeep is very slick looking =D10:56
one_love_1980grub.conf10:56
one_love_1980/boot/grub.conf10:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx10:57
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psyHey10:57
psyI have a quick question about sound.10:57
BeatYoussh looks very slick looking10:57
psyHow do I open the Alsa config?10:57
MidNightRaVeNwhat's an m3u file?10:57
BeatYouMidNightRaVeN: playlist10:58
tiglionabbitMidNightRaVeN: run "file" on it and find out10:58
psym3u is a streamed playlist10:58
one_love_1980/boot/grub/grub.conf10:58
BeatYoupsy: no always streamed10:58
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MidNightRaVeNlol wow... so many answers! thx =)10:58
djrSilly noob question: I misspelled the hostname while installing ubuntu, so after installation i ran "hostname" to enter the correct name. Now every time I sudo I get "unable to lookup bono via gethostbyname()" (bono being the hostname i set). Any suggestions as to how to fix?10:58
one_love_1980i mean /boot/grub/menu.lst10:58
MidNightRaVeNi love staind....10:58
BeatYoui make an m3u for each album i have, so instead of having to que up all the mp3s for an album, i que one m3u10:59
MidNightRaVeNoooOOOOoo10:59
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Panzerboymorning10:59
psyone_love_1980, was that for me?10:59
BeatYoueg. my 10 hours of bob marley albums ;] 10:59
MidNightRaVeNlol10:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope thats not it >.<10:59
jamesDOODany idea how to use dialup in the ubuntu installer (warty warthog)?10:59
jamesDOODor in text interface?10:59
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psyDoes anyone know how to open any sound configurer for ALSA using Warty Warthog?11:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamY/boot/grub/grub.conf <---dosen't exist >.<11:00
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one_love_1980i mean /boot/grub/menu.lst11:01
noob-leechDoes anyone know how to play APE files on Rhythmbox?11:01
one_love_1980ubuntu is slightly different than most distros11:01
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one_love_1980suse, gentoo for example11:02
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm pretty sure you put it on the "kernel" lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and i would have said that before but I thought people knew more than me11:02
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one_love_1980yes on the kernel lines11:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYtiglionabbit thanx11:02
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psyDoes anyone know how to open any sound configurer for ALSA using Warty Warthog?11:02
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tiglionabbitnoob-leech: read this thing11:02
tiglionabbit!multimedia11:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia11:02
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nxvlcan i broke a CD-ROM making "cat some.iso > /dev/hdc" ??11:03
tiglionabbitpsy: um, no, I don't.  But I know of system/comp -> prefs -> multimedia systems selector, and that you can set alsa options in many programs11:03
one_love_1980knew more than you hah!11:04
psyI need to detect my onboard sound, I don't have a sound card and have fixed this problem by running alsaconf or alsaconfig in the past...11:04
one_love_1980thought11:04
one_love_1980duh11:04
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noob-leechtiglionabbit: Yes, but it doesn't tell what are the necessary files to play APE files.11:04
Poromieshi guys, i have a question: Is there any way for me to use bios-update that has been made to use with windows? (i.e. double-click on the "install new bios" file on windows and voil)?11:04
MidNightRaVeNif i wanted to copy a file in term... would i do cp <filename> <location> ?11:04
noob-leech*files necessary11:05
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Poromieswould be se sweet to get this new bios to work, it fixes my memoryspeed (+20% faster than now)11:05
psyI have a AC'97 Audio onboard sound, how do I configure this in ubuntu?11:06
tiglionabbitnoob-leech: it doesn't?  I'm sure jasonchen knows which ones, and he wrote the guide.  Best bet would be to install gstreamer0.8-plugins, which will grab you support for all of the different formats11:06
Poromiesor is it so that i need to ask for a linux-bios update from the manufacturer?11:06
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noob-leechgstreamer0.8-plugins no longer supports APE due to some license issues.11:07
one_love_1980you can update without ever entering the operating system11:07
ethicspsy ac97 is a codec find the chipset using lspci11:07
tiglionabbitreally?  grr, well I don't know..  it'll be gstreamer0.8-something11:07
psyethics, lspci?11:07
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psyethics, nevermind11:07
tiglionabbitpsy: it's a terminal command11:07
Poromiesone_love_1980: how? put the bios file on cd and boot?11:07
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ethicspsy its a command will list devices on pci bus11:08
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Panzerboydo you guys ever rest ? :)11:08
psyethics, figured the command out, looking now11:08
MidNightRaVeNlol11:08
MidNightRaVeNgm711:08
anacronPanzerboy: they did in the morning!11:08
MidNightRaVeNdoh11:08
one_love_1980your bios should have a bios update feature that is accessable at boot you hit a key when the bios screen comes up11:08
Panzerboylol11:08
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noob-leechtiglionabbit: There is a gstreamer-monkeysaudio; however, it's ancient and does not support most of my files.11:08
anacronPanzerboy: but i think it was somekind of coffee break anyway11:09
one_love_1980then navigate the menus11:09
noob-leechAnyway, thanks for your help.11:09
psyethics, there are a few things saying chipset11:09
psy0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (re11:09
psyrev 3 that is11:09
Panzerboyanacron: yeah, and I bet they have this plan ... you know ... to have the break one at the time :)11:09
Poromiesone_love_1980: ok thanks, all I basicly need to know that it is possible thanks. I'll go google out more instructions, thanks :)11:09
noob-leechProbably the only way is to modify the source.11:09
Panzerboyanacron: so that the channel is never uncovered :)11:09
noob-leech=/11:09
ethicspsy look for audio or media11:09
psy0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (r ev 12)11:10
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psy 82801BA/BAM?11:10
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MidNightRaVeNso can we use Azeurus on ubuntu?? or is there a better ap?11:10
anacronPoromies: i think mbnet has good article about that updating bios from medias like cd-rom and usb stick, and get finally rid of that stupid diskette11:10
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PanzerboyMidNightRaVeN: i am using it as we speak11:10
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psyethics,  82801BA/BAM?11:10
Panzerboy!azureus11:11
ubotuWish i knew, Panzerboy11:11
Panzerboyheh11:11
MidNightRaVeNPanzerboy: is just download and install? or how do i get it and work it?11:11
noob-leechMidNightRaVeN: I think there is a BitTornado if you prefer.11:11
MidNightRaVeNlol11:11
noob-leech*perfer it11:11
noob-leechThe backport repos has it, I think.11:11
zerokshort question: do you think that this qualifies as howto? ;-) http://weblog.zerokspot.com/posts/425/11:11
Poromiesanacron: will check that one out11:11
PanzerboyMidNightRaVeN: i have apt-got it11:11
ethicspsy hmm doesnt sound right...that looks like a intel sata chip number or BMaster11:11
tiglionabbitoh shoot...11:12
MidNightRaVeN*sigh* so lol it's on the backports?11:12
psyethics, Intel, yes, no BM11:12
ethicspsy: try seeing if its realtek aln-650 or something lioke that?11:12
PanzerboyMidNightRaVeN: yes11:12
anacronPoromies: if you don't have accounts i can give the file for you (i've got plenty of those :3)11:12
Panzerboyit must be on backports :)11:12
ethicspsy : sometimes they are less than obvious....11:12
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Poromiesanacron: yea i have account :)11:12
MidNightRaVeN*runs to the backports to get azuerus11:12
PanzerboyMidNightRaVeN: Filename: dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/azureus_2.3.0.2-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb11:13
psyethics, only realtek thing is an ethernet controler.11:13
ethicspsy anyways if you want you could try alsaconf....you may need to apt-get alsa-base or something although im not sure i come from debian mainly11:13
ethicspsy try alsaconf from commandline as root see if it is installed11:13
MidNightRaVeNcan you give me the full http possibley?11:13
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PanzerboyMidNightRaVeN: of the repo?11:13
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MidNightRaVeNof just the file?11:14
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Panzerboylol11:14
phanteris there something like a windows shortcut to a file in linux ?11:14
acid2phanter, yes11:15
Panzerboyphanter: yes11:15
acid2"man ln"11:15
Panzerboyofc11:15
psyalsaconf: command not found11:15
psyethics, alsaconf: command not found11:15
Panzerboyphanter: on the desktop ?11:15
Panzerboypsy: sudo alsaconf maybe ?11:15
Panzerboynope, not there11:15
one_love_1980what do you mean phanter?11:16
phanterPanzerboy, yes on the desktop11:16
psyPanzerboy, sudo: alsaconf: command not found11:16
Panzerboypsy: maybe you are missing some packages11:16
Panzerboypsy: do a sudo apt-cache search alsa11:16
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psyok11:16
Panzerboyphanter: right click on the desktop then create launcher11:16
psyPanzerboy, lots of files11:16
Panzerboyphanter: from there it should be pretty obvious11:16
Panzerboypsy: 1 sec11:17
tiglionabbitis there a way to create a list of all of the files in multiple directories in order of their modification dates11:17
tiglionabbit?11:17
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Panzerboypsy: it must be in alsa-base or alsa-utils11:17
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phanterPanzerboy, thnx a lot11:18
Panzerboyphaedrus_: u're welcome11:18
Panzerboypsy: just found this post on linuxquestions.org where it says that alsaconf is actually NOT in that packages ... hmmm ...11:19
Panzerboypsy: check this out, maybe it helps you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/63/2005/05/3/32362111:19
tiglionabbitsomething that would end up like "dir1/file2.txt, file4.txt, dir3/dir8/file9.txt," all relative to the place I ran the command...   =p I'd use LS, but I don't think it can go that far.  *reads the manual*11:19
BeatYounikkia you still here ?11:20
nikkiayes11:20
phanterPanzerboy, can it make shortcuts to files on a FAT partitiion (i get a permission denied error)11:20
nikkiatiglionabbit: yes, use find11:20
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nikkiatiglionabbit: find . -type f11:21
Panzerboyphanter: it depends on how you've mounted that partition11:21
Panzerboyphanter: try to mount it with -o umask=022211:21
BeatYounikkia: any idea why when i upload a file the default chmod is set to 60011:21
BeatYouvery annoying11:21
nikkiaBeatYou: its probably in the config somewhere11:21
psyarg11:21
nikkiaBeatYou: local_umask=02211:21
one_love_1980yeah umask setting in your /etc/profile11:21
psyOK, I got ventrilo working on LINUX! now I have no sound cause of a dumb sound card...11:21
nikkiaone_love_1980: we're talking about vsftp, not shell umask11:22
psyor lack there of.11:22
one_love_1980you can change local or global11:22
The_Voxnikkia: you are the one that mentioned beep-m-p, right?11:22
phanterPanzerboy, I did umask=0000, but I'll change it and try it11:22
MidNightRaVeNwelp... once again 64 bit is my folly... oooo weeellll... no azureus11:22
nikkiaThe_Vox: yes11:22
one_love_1980oh sorry11:22
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The_Voxnikkia: do you know if there's an arts output plugin for it? it does seem better than xmms...but it's useless for me without an arts output plugin :)11:22
one_love_1980still though same thing11:22
tiglionabbitnikkia: wow thank you11:22
phanterthnx11:23
nikkiaThe_Vox: there should be11:23
BeatYounikkia: this in the config ?11:23
Panzerboylol, i didn't know that so much high quality free music exists11:23
nikkiaBeatYou: yes11:23
Panzerboyfree as in beer :)11:23
The_Voxnikkia: I've found rpms for the damn thing...but it's not mentioned in the plugins page for bmp and I can't find the origin of those damn rpms anywhere lol!11:23
nikkiaThe_Vox: i use the alsa plugin, and have alsa setup with dmix11:24
BeatYounikkia: wow, thanks man11:24
BeatYouworked perfect11:24
tiglionabbitMidNightRaVeN: why not use bittornado-gui ?11:24
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Panzerboyactually i find azureus a bit too bloated for what i need11:25
Panzerboyso i guess i'm gonna ditch it11:25
Panzerboythe gnome bittorrent gui included seems just fine11:26
The_Voxnikkia: never mind, found it...it's in the "extra plugins" package11:26
Panzerboyand i saw on planet ubuntu the other day that some guy is working on some other gui for bt for gnome11:26
Panzerboyit will be in breezy apparently11:26
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BeatYouwhen is breezy supposed to be released anywho ?11:27
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BeatYouoctober ?11:27
PanzerboyBeatYou: october11:27
Panzerboyyeah11:27
Panzerboy6 months11:27
Panzerboy:)11:27
BeatYoucool11:27
Panzerboy5.10 :)11:27
dale_would anyone here be able to help me with a simple desktop config problem?11:27
othernoobMidNightRaVeN: why would Azureus not run on 64bit?11:27
Panzerboydale_: shoot11:27
noob-leechABC rocks, but it's no longer maintained. T_T11:27
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dale_panzerboy: how do you set desktop icon's font colour? sounds stupid i know11:27
nikkiaothernoob: lack of a 64bit java for a start11:28
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lokmmh ?11:28
Panzerboydale_: tough question this one11:28
Panzerboy:)11:28
acid2What will Breezy change?11:28
othernoobnikkia there is 64bit java..11:28
Panzerboydale_: never thought about such thing11:28
lokothernoob, Azureus works on amd6411:28
acid2Lots of security fixes?11:28
Panzerboy!breezy11:28
othernooblok i know11:28
othernooblok i wonder why he thinks it doesnt11:28
nikkiaothernoob: not in the standard repositories, which is where MidNightRaVeN is looking, i imagine11:28
nikkiaothernoob: he?11:29
lokmmmmmh11:29
Panzerboyacid2: see !breezy11:29
Panzerboyhmm11:29
acid2!breezy11:29
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othernoobnikkia, yea well, maybe should look on java.sun.com then11:29
dale_panzerboy: interesting, white text on a white background just doesn't work11:29
acid2ubotu Someone already said that 23 seconds ago11:29
acid2:P11:29
othernoobnikkia, i assume that Midnightraven is a he ;)11:29
ubotuacid2: I give up, what is it?11:29
acid2o.O11:29
acid2!breezy11:29
othernoobnikkia,i know that you're a girl :p11:29
nikkiaothernoob: ah, i thought you were referring to me11:29
acid2There we go11:29
Panzerboyi have no idea why ubotu started to answer me in a private window11:29
Panzerboystrange11:29
tiglionabbit!breezy11:29
Panzerboyactually11:29
nikkiaothernoob: thats not an assumption i'd make tho11:29
Panzerboyfrom memory, breezy is will be the next version of Ubuntu (5.10). It will be released on october 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. If you want to know what the main differences are between Breezy and Hoary, see http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/11:30
acid2Panzerboy, that didnt explain what breezy will change11:30
Panzerboythis is what they say11:30
tiglionabbit!breezy11:30
Panzerboyacid2: go to that site11:30
acid2ok11:30
Panzerboyand see for yourself11:30
tiglionabbitgrr, who is breezy-ing ubotu in private =P11:30
othernoobnikkia why? i'm pretty sure mid is a guy11:30
Panzerboythere are lots of changes11:30
Panzerboyto many to be listed in a chat room11:30
acid2Ooo, some nice changes :)11:30
BeatYou!breezy11:30
Panzerboytiglionabbit: have no idea, just did a !breezy and ubotu responded privately :)11:31
tiglionabbitPanzerboy: maybe they changed him.  Shame...11:31
Panzerboyyeah11:31
BeatYou!apache211:31
ubotuBeatYou: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:31
Panzerboy!multimedia11:31
MadeyeGuys, is there a british based Dict dictionary11:31
ubotuhmm... multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia11:31
Panzerboynow it answers here11:31
Panzerboy!breezy11:31
BeatYouweird...11:31
BeatYou!apache211:31
Panzerboyfor some topics it answers in the channel11:31
BeatYou!php411:31
ubotuBeatYou: I don't know11:31
Panzerboyand for others in private11:31
BeatYou!webmin11:32
ubotuBeatYou: Wish i knew11:32
nikkiaMadeye: wbritish/ibritish11:32
BeatYou!mysql-client11:32
ubotuNo idea, BeatYou11:32
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tiglionabbitnikkia: is find -type f to find their creation date or modification date?  It doesn't seem to be giving me the right results for modification date11:33
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nikkiatiglionabbit: type f = all files11:33
lesshasteI have a Sony Ericsson k750i and would like to transfer some images off it (via a usb cable). Is there any way to do this in linux?11:34
tiglionabbitnikkia: uh...  I wanted it sorted by date11:34
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Panzerboytiglionabbit: guess you can pipe the results to sort11:34
BeatYou-zdid i just get k-lined for calling ubotu a mean name11:34
Madeyenikkia, How to add it please?11:34
Panzerboytiglionabbit: also ls --sort time may be good11:34
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PanzerboyBeatYou: apparently not :)11:35
tiglionabbitPanzerboy: well, I want it to sort them independently of the directories they are in..  does it support that?11:35
BeatYouheh11:35
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Panzerboytiglionabbit: not directly i think11:35
Panzerboytiglionabbit: i guess you might have to write a script11:36
Panzerboytiglionabbit: but then again, i ain't no bash expert11:36
BeatYou!wiki11:36
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BeatYou!wiki breezy11:36
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rob^!breezy11:37
rob^hmm11:37
BeatYou!wiki kubuntu11:37
light_punch2i just installed ubuntu, the status screen make me very nervous. it just keep on unpacking, thought it's never goin to end hehe.11:37
one_love_1980it will end :}11:38
BeatYoulight_punch2: it will, and then youll do and apt-get upgrade and watch it do it some more11:38
nikkiaMadeye: wbritish is the package name, choose it in whichever package manager you prefer11:38
paul!kiss breezy11:38
ubotupaul: Bugger all, i dunno11:38
acid2Will breezy have a graphical bootloader?11:38
ethicstiglionabbit, maybe find has the option...it does directories more like you want i think11:38
tiglionabbithmm, I guess there is no way to make ls not sort by directories first11:38
nikkiatiglionabbit: you're not going to be able to do it solely with find...11:38
hussamby next month, will breezy be fit enough for testing?11:38
tiglionabbitI know.  I could use find's printf options to make it print the date before each file, then sort that, and delete the dates11:39
BeatYou!wiki developers11:39
nikkiatiglionabbit: yeah, the tricky part there is sorting on date11:39
Panzerboytiglionabbit: yeah11:39
nikkiatiglionabbit:  i don't think 'sort' offers a 'by date' option11:39
ethicstiglionabbit, you could try 2 stepping it...grepo for directories first time grep for not directories next time?...11:39
Panzerboyno, only ascii sort11:39
light_punch2BeatYou, where is mc? is that being substitute with another app or just apt-get it.11:39
Panzerboyafaik11:39
Panzerboylight_punch2: apt-get it11:40
tiglionabbiturk...11:40
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tiglionabbitmaybe this really is impossible unless I write a script11:40
nikkiatiglionabbit:  if you can get the date in unix 'seconds from epoch' and padded with 0s, you could sort based on that easily11:40
BeatYoulight_punch2: yes sudo apt-get upgrad11:40
BeatYouupgrade*11:40
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ethicstiglionabbit, what about by time or atime?11:41
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ethicstiglionabbit, doesnt sort right?11:41
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horatiocatwhat is good for dvd authoring?  dvdsyler?11:41
evaderHi. I'm trying to normalize my Music collection (mp3's mainly). I have installed mp3gain, but how do I use it?11:42
evaderOr is there something that will just normalize on the fly for rhythmbox?11:42
acid2evader, nothing that will do it on the file, afaik11:42
acid2try "man mp3gain" ?11:42
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evadermmm. i just dont want to break all my music and normalize it wrong.. or strip all the tags or something11:43
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nikkiatiglionabbit: tbh, i'd be tempted to write a 'date sort' script in python, it wouldn't be much work11:43
zukalkback it up11:43
tiglionabbitooo!  there is a seconds since 1970 function in find!11:43
IceDC571okay, i installed ubuntu server. after that, how do i install the X window system?11:44
nikkiatiglionabbit: there you go, format that so it has 0 padding and sort'll happily sort it11:44
evaderapt-get install xserver-xorg11:44
tiglionabbitnikkia: can I do that with printf?11:44
tiglionabbitI know printf can put spaces in11:44
nikkiatig, yes11:44
tiglionabbiter, how11:44
nikkiatig %05.5d11:44
IceDC571evader: someone told me x-window-system-core, im confused11:44
ethicstiglionabbit, also have a look at dir and see if it does the same as ls ...sometimes its funny to look at11:44
nikkiatig, or whatever number of digits you need11:44
BeatYounikkia: have you seen these graphs haha - http://vsftpd.beasts.org/#performance11:45
evaderIceDC571, *shrug* it probably depends on each other11:45
tiglionabbitthanks guys11:45
BeatYouhard to imagine a HDD could stand up to that many concurrent connections11:45
evaderso just install one11:45
light_punch2where is the grub config file? /boot/grub/menu.lst?11:45
evaderand the other will follow11:45
IceDC571evader: i dont know, it wont start x automatically thats my problem11:45
ethicstiglionabbit, try dir --full-time for instance...11:45
nikkiaBeatYou: its probably a SAN or something11:45
IceDC571IceDC571: i also installed gdm but i guess that doesn't want to start up either11:45
IceDC571lol oops11:45
BeatYounikkia: says its from someones internet site11:45
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nikkiaBeatYou: or maybe just a local raid array, either way, it won't be a single disk11:46
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lesshasteubuntu live cd fails to recognise my serial mouse (thinks it is ps/2) how can I fix that?11:46
tiglionabbithow many digits should I pad this with?11:46
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nikkiatiglionabbit: erm, dunno, what's the current date in epoch-absolute format ?11:46
horatiocatwhat is good for dvd authoring?  I have tried dvdstyler?11:46
nikkiatiglionabbit: find the number of digits in the current epoch-absolute, and add a couple of digits for safety :)11:46
Amaranthwow, someone has a serial mouse?11:47
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action09hi all11:47
nikkiaBeatYou: just before it says 'a large internet site' it mentions that redhat use vsftp, i bet i know which large internet site :)11:48
BeatYouheh11:48
tiglionabbithmm, it doesn't really matter, because the major digit hasn't ever changed over the course of my editing these files.  Yay, it works wonderful, thank you guys so much11:48
BeatYoususe and debian use it to11:48
tiglionabbitnow I need a "delete the first 10 characters on every line" function in vim11:48
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BeatYouwonder why ive never heard of it before11:48
nikkiatiglionabbit: i use find for a lot of stuff, its amazing what you can do with it, really11:48
P3L|C4N0Mouse serial? replace /dev/input/mice by /dev/ttyS0 in xorg.conf11:49
IceDC571so i guess startx doesnt work.. or did they remove that command these days?11:49
nikkiatiglionabbit: s/^..........// :)11:49
AmaranthIceDC571: It probably doesn't work on breezy.11:49
tiglionabbitIceDC571: it's still around, or at least I thought11:49
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asad2k5can some one tell me if it is possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd11:49
tiglionabbitnikkia: oh yeah, thanks11:49
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nikkiatiglionabbit: there's probably a way to use a numeric multiplier on . but i can't remember it, and its easy to type 10 .s :)11:49
tiglionabbitnikkia: you're pretty clever11:49
Hali_303Hi! what is the minimum size of an ubuntu install?11:49
IceDC571so if startx displays command not found, does that mean i dont have X installed?11:50
tiglionabbitI believe it's .{10}11:50
tiglionabbitbut I could be wrong11:50
nikkiasounds about right11:50
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IceDC571Amaranth: lol no im not using breezy thank you very much11:50
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BeatYouanyone know what generates these neat png traffic analysis? - http://vsftpd.beasts.org/traffic.png11:50
tiglionabbitIceDC571: I don't know.  I coulda sworn I'd used it before though, but that could be because xfce created it11:50
nikkiatig, you could also pipe the output from sort thru 'cut'11:50
BeatYouive seen them everywehre11:50
asad2k5Is it possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd11:50
horatiocati installed a debian deb using -f and now I can't install anything else using apt without removing it.  What can I do?11:51
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tiglionabbitnikkia: wow...  I could do this all in a single line, that's amazing11:51
IceDC571tiglionabbit: well i did a fresh server install.. then sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core xfce4. shouldnt that be enough to get X started?11:52
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IceDC571then i was like, maybe it needs a display manager so i installed gdm11:52
tiglionabbitdunno if cut is what I want though..  unless I can figure out how to make \n my delimiter11:52
light_punch2how do i check the disk space usage of a partition? hda411:52
horatiocatdf -h11:52
tiglionabbitIceDC571: you need xserver-xorg, don't you?11:52
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tiglionabbit!info xserver-xorg11:53
ubuntu-estiglionabbit: Error: No factoid matches that key.11:53
ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB11:53
nikkiatig, -d<ctrl-v><ctrl-m>11:53
light_punch2thx horatiocat11:53
IceDC571maybe i forgot that, eh? lets see11:53
hahahasamhey I'm completely new to Ubuntu and linux in general - I have no idea how to install the skype program I just downloaded... feel stupid...11:53
tiglionabbitnikkia: hm?11:53
nikkiatiglionabbit: if you're just trying to cut the first 10 chars from every line though, you should just be able to do   cut -c10-11:54
tiglionabbit!info skype11:54
ubuntu-estiglionabbit: Error: No factoid matches that key.11:54
hahahasam!info skype11:54
ubuntu-eshahahasam: Error: No factoid matches that key.11:54
tiglionabbitI'm pretty sure skype is in there11:54
tiglionabbit=\ guess not11:54
P3L|C4N0ubuntu-es, google lucky skype11:54
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thoreauputicx-window-system-core should install xserver-xorg - you might need to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get X up and running11:54
ubuntu-esP3L|C4N0: http://www.skype.com/11:54
tiglionabbitand what's up with this ubuntu-es thing?  It annoys me..11:54
silmaris<-- send a msg <txt> to every channel whree you are in11:55
tiglionabbitmake it not respond to our !info s11:55
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thoreauputicwhoever runs ubuntu-es - it conflicts with ubotu and i don't see a need for it11:56
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dikadikahello can anyone tell me if installing ubunto via ftp or http is supported?11:56
Hali_303when using the ubuntu live CD, is it possible to have some settings like printer setup stored permanently on the HDD?11:56
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tiglionabbitwoot, alright, thank you nikkia.  I have now broken my record for the longest command I've ever written.11:57
tiglionabbitfind -type f -printf "%A@ %h%f\n" | sort | cut -c12- > fileorder.txt11:57
nikkiatiglionabbit: that's tiny :P11:57
tiglionabbitlol11:57
tiglionabbitbut it's so awesome11:57
nikkiatiglionabbit: let me know when you start having to use line continuations to get around bash's input length limit :)11:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYusing splashy i get this error what does it mean?11:58
tiglionabbitit has a limit?11:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/31109011:58
nikkiatiglionabbit: 1024 characters, iirc11:58
tiglionabbitwow11:58
asad2k5Is it possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd11:58
tiglionabbitwhy would I ever need to do that though?11:58
rob^asad2k5, no not yet11:58
tiglionabbitasad2k5: yes, using chroot11:58
nikkiatiglionabbit: i've written single (well, piped) commands that long before :)11:58
rob^well, not easily anyway11:58
tiglionabbitor, I think it is.  It probably wont be a very good install though11:59
tiglionabbityou'll need to apt-get everything11:59
rob^just grab the install iso11:59
tiglionabbitnikkia: show me11:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone?11:59
nikkiatiglionabbit: i don't have them in my history12:00
asad2k5tiglionabbit, is it hard to do it with charoot12:00
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nikkiatiglionabbit: bash's history sucks anyway, rewriting a shared history between bash instances is something i have on my todo list :P12:00
tiglionabbitasad2k5: well, I haven't done it, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a terminal junky who knows what he's doing12:00
rob^asad2k5, no, but you will need to do a bit of reading..12:00
nikkiatiglionabbit: i normally have 10-20 bash instances running, and only 1 gets to write the history file :/12:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here use splashy?12:01
tiglionabbitthere's only one history file, and all of them overwrite it?  that sucks12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYor knows how to make the boot look more like knoppix?12:01
nikkiatiglionabbit: yeah, as i said, rewriting bash to use a shared history between instances is on my todo list :)12:01
tiglionabbitI only really have 4 or 5 instances, but most are running programs, so the history usually gets recorded right12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYwith the colours and tux and stuff?12:01
asad2k5Actually I tried installing from install cd 64 bits but failing right at the end of copying packagesto hard disk ( system hangs)12:02
nikkiatiglionabbit: it also means some changes to ! tho, to allow you to pull out items based on date/time and/or terminal used12:02
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lesshasteubuntu live cd fails to recognise my serial mouse (thinks it is ps/2) how can I fix that?12:02
tiglionabbitasad2k5: perhaps your disk is scratched12:02
P3L|C4N0lesshaste, Mouse serial? replace /dev/input/mice by /dev/ttyS0 in xorg.conf12:02
zukalkChurcH_of_FoamY, apt-cache show linuxlogo - this might help12:02
asad2k5but i have installed debian on to same partition with no problem12:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYzukalk , i have never used that command before syntax?12:03
zukalkit's just to see the info about package linuxlogo12:03
lesshasteP3L|C4N0, thx!12:03
zukalkread the description12:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk12:03
zukalk(you can use Synaptic)12:03
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playboyhi which kernel is used by ubuntu hoary ?12:04
rob^2.6.1012:05
zukalk2.6.1012:05
rob^ah beat ya!12:05
rob^:P12:05
zukalkeheh12:05
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playboyoki thanks :)12:05
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Madeyenikkia, I've just installed wbritish and worldlist-large but now How to use it? there is no command line or GUI12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know this splashy error > http://pastebin.com/31109012:05
nikkiaMadeye: you should have been prompted to choose which dictionary dict/ispell/wspell uses12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYand that linux logo isen't the same as knoppix >.<12:06
nikkiaif you were, and you selected british, then you juse use dict/ispell/wspell as normal12:06
tiglionabbitoh no, my long command did something wrong12:06
zukalkChurcH_of_FoamY, i wouldn't know, never tried it12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to make the ubuntu boot as close to knoppix as possible12:06
zukalkwhy?12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust for the eye candy and to attract customers12:07
tiglionabbitit deleted some of the \s in the directory trees, so it looks like some things are just long filenames12:07
Madeyenikkia, ispell installed with ibritish, hmm cant I use this database from gdictionary GUI ?12:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand show them that linux is good for anything ^_^12:07
nikkiaMadeye: no idea, i don't use qdictionary12:07
Madeyenikkia,  ok, is there any other gui to use this database?>12:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYalot of people respond better to eyecandy than just a demo12:07
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siimodoes anyone want any gmail invites still :-/12:08
tiglionabbitnikkia: know any reason why it would have cut out some of the wrong characters there?12:08
tiglionabbitsiimo: lol, I got 50 too12:08
nikkiatiglionabbit: no idea, unless your sort output wasn't right12:08
nikkiaMadeye: i think kdict uses whichever database is selected as the default in 'dict'12:09
nikkiaMadeye: which should be british, after installing wbritish12:09
tiglionabbitnikkia: yeah, my sort wasn't right...  maybe it's in my printf command to find12:09
thoreauputicMadeye: you might be able to specify in /etc/dict.conf I think12:09
nikkiaoh, no, kdict uses the internet dictionary12:09
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tiglionabbityep12:09
tiglionabbitit misses some of the /s12:10
tiglionabbit"%A@ %h%f\n"12:10
nikkiaquite honestly, hardly anything uses the system-wide dictionary, everything that has a spell check tends to use its own dictionary :/12:10
tiglionabbitoh oh, I know why12:10
tiglionabbithehe sorry, it's because %h is the directory and %f is the file, but there isn't a / between those.  So I'll put one in12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn no documentation on the net for colourizing ubuntu's boot text like knoppix >.<12:11
Madeyethoreauputic,  jad@madi:~ $ more /etc/dict.conf12:11
Madeye/etc/dict.conf: No such file or directory12:11
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tiglionabbitmy really long command grows by one character!  =P12:11
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thoreauputicsorry /etc/dictd/dict.conf12:11
pepsiboo12:11
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thoreauputicMadeye: ^^^^12:12
iamdaonehello everyone12:12
bigfoot1hello: where is the chat log of Xchat located12:12
bigfoot1?12:12
bigfoot1hi iamdaone12:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYsorry about the knoppix stuff guys i just made my first cd and was stunned by the priity boot colours and such12:12
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Tomcat_bigfoot1: ~/.xchat2/.xchatlogs12:12
hussamwhy isn't there a CD2/3 for hoary with the rest of packages?12:12
siimobigfoot1, if you tick the option its in ~/.xchat-212:12
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onkarshindebigfoot1: I suppose it is in your home folder under .xchat12:13
WalkmanHelp anyone please12:13
Tomcat_bigfoot1: ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ :)12:13
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Tomcat_The first one was wrong.12:13
onkarshindeWalkman: What help do you need?12:13
iamdaoneubuntu is kicking butt, its leading its nearest competitor by 900 points in Distro watch12:13
iamdaoneLOL12:13
bigfoot1Tomcat_, siimo, onkarshinde: thank you.12:13
WalkmanHow coud I change my system locale or at least reginal settings ??12:13
WalkmanUB 5.0412:13
thoreauputicWalkman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales I'd say12:14
Walkmanregional, sorry12:14
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Tomcat_That only changes charsets...12:14
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thoreauputicbase-config perhaps?12:15
Walkmanyeah ... it shows me the week beginning with Sun, but ours is with Mon12:15
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WalkmanIt shows me the time with PM/AM ... but ours is 24-hr time ...12:15
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pepsibut the week _does_ start on sunday :)12:16
nikkiapepsi, not in france12:16
Walkmanpepsi: No, It does not.12:16
pepsiheh12:16
Walkmanpepsi: It starts on Monday in Europe12:16
Tomcat_I'd like to know that too...12:16
nikkiawalkman, not all of europe :P12:16
pepsiwhy not start it on wednesday then?12:17
Tomcat_I want an English Ubuntu, but with German locale... somehow. ;)12:17
pepsithat could be fun12:17
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WalkmanEastern Europe at least12:17
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Walkmanpepsi: It was not fun yesterday when I was booking my bus tickets thinking that the last day of the week is Sun, but looking at UB calendar with Sun as the 1st day ...12:18
pepsi:(12:18
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WalkmanIt amlost ruined my schedule ...12:19
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Tomcat_Walkman: You can, as mentioned, use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales", choose the locales for France (fr_FR probably) and then log into gnome using that locale...12:19
Tomcat_Walkman: But that will not only make your country settings French, but also the menus and programs.12:19
catfoxanyone know what packages i need to get gstreamer support in beagle? ./configure comes back with no support for it12:20
nikkiaTomcat_: except walkman needs estonian or something :)12:20
WalkmanI'll gve it a try .... My choice would be RU locale or ET ....12:20
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Tomcat_Oh... why did you mention ...12:20
Tomcat_Oh I misread that, sorry.12:21
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Madpilot24hr time can be set easily. My (English Canadian) Ubuntu install displays 24hr time...12:21
Tomcat_Yeah choose whatever locale you're in, but that will also change your language, which is my problem.12:21
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Tomcat_Madpilot: Oh yeah... that can be done in the date&time settings.12:21
ColonelKernelwhat is the deal with commercial versions of linux -  are ALL versions of linux available free if you get the iso for free or can some versions of linux give out the iso but charge somehow for the use of the distro12:21
nikkiaWalkman: et_EE12:21
ColonelKernelspeaking specifically of astaro12:21
light_punch2is there a default app on ubuntun to test my modem? like kppp.12:21
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nikkiaWalkman: that should change your locale (and language) to estonian12:22
MadpilotTomcat_: yup. WTH is "internet time", though?12:22
Tomcat_ColonelKernel: define free12:22
pepsiheh, swatch internet time12:22
pepsi@nnn12:22
Tomcat_Madpilot: Something Swatch (from Switzerland) invented... one day = 1000 beats12:22
nikkiaMadpilot: a stupid gimmick by swatch that never caught on, thankfully12:22
WalkmanWow, It showed me a lot of locales checked with [*]  ... en_ZA, en_ZW ...12:22
nikkiatomcat, it was a marketting gimmick, 'oh look, put everything in internet time, then buy our patented watch with internet time display'12:23
dikadikaanyone have information on how to install ubuntu via ftp/http?12:23
MadpilotTomcat_, nikkia: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html   <-- this, right?12:23
Tomcat_Madpilot: The only good thing I saw in it was the fact that there's no daylight saving and the same time for everybody on the planet.12:23
nikkiaMadpilot: yes12:23
cyphaseanyone want a specific feature in an IRC bot?12:23
MadpilotTomcat_: that's what ZULU is for. (GMT, whatever...)12:23
pepsia suicide feature so that the bot no longer exists12:23
nikkiaTomcat_: the downside is swatch was the only company legally allowed to sell watches displaying the time :)12:23
Tomcat_Madpilot: Yeah, UTC rocks.12:23
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Tomcat_nikkia: Heh... didn't know that.12:24
Tomcat_I'd much rather have a watch showing Unix time, although nobody could read it. :D12:24
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nikkiaTomcat_: feh, go with java time :)12:24
nikkiaTomcat_: milliseconds since 1 jan 1970 :)12:25
MadpilotTomcat_: there's always binary clocks, if you want an unreadable clockface...12:25
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nikkiaMadpilot: i can make my watch unreadable with a rock, and its far cheaper :P12:25
light_punch2is there a fax application on  5.04?12:25
Tomcat_Madpilot: binary clocks are way more readable than epoch time :)12:26
WalkmanWell, I changed my locales, chose the default one, what next ?12:26
Madpilotnikkia: :D12:26
nikkialight_punch2: efax, hylafax, etc etc12:26
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TrixseyHello, I've heard that one can use World of Warcraft, the MMORPG, with Ubuntu through Wine! Anyone knows more about that?12:26
MadpilotTomcat_: Unix epoch time just seems incredibly geeky...12:27
Tomcat_Walkman: Log out, choose the locale at the login screen, then log in.12:27
nikkiaMadpilot: and binary time isn't ?!?12:27
Madpilotlike Gregorian recast for geeks...12:27
light_punch2nikkia, are those the defaults? or i have to apt-get it?12:27
nikkialight_punch2: you'd have to apt-get it12:27
nikkialight_punch2: afaik, there is no default fax package installed12:27
WalkmanOkay, let's see...12:27
marshalHello people. This is my first time on irc and my english is't very good so excuse me, but i have a problem installing kaffeine from source: while doing make i got that error: "dvbpanel.cpp:28:18: qapp.h: No such file or directory12:27
marshal". I search in google but nothig. Can any one help me??12:27
Madpilotnikkia: they all are. I'll stick with Zulu & local, in real digits!12:27
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light_punch2nikkia, how can i test if my modem is ready for use?12:27
TrixseyIs anyone here familiar with Wine?12:28
Whistlersure12:28
Whistler:)12:28
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nikkiaMadpilot: besides, there's a *useful* geek time :)12:29
nikkiaMadpilot: that being julian12:29
Madpilotnikkia: right, Julian. not gregorian, that's calenders... :P12:29
nikkiaJ2000.0 is more useful than plain julian tho12:30
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nikkiamaddler: its a time too, as it specifies the time as a floating point number since noon12:30
nikkiaMadpilot even12:30
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nikkiaMadpilot: since astronomy events are usually specified in J2000.0 format, its a *useful* geek time format, which is more than  you can say for the others :)12:31
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nikkiaMadpilot: btw, if you count julian/J2000.0 as a calendar rather than a time, then you can't count unix epoch-absolute either :)12:31
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eltonany girl 2312:32
WalkmanWell... it worked for estonian locale, but it said the ru-KOI8 or ru-UTF-8 does not exist ...12:33
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WalkmanAny ideas please ?12:33
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nikkiaWalkman: you might need to install language-pack-ru-base, language-pack-ru-update, and things like mozilla-locale-ru  etc12:34
Madpilotnikkia: i've messed about with julian - a space sim I played in Windows used it.12:34
flodinecan you load shine fonts in ubuntu12:34
iamdaonewww.linuxsucks.org12:34
iamdaoneits a funny site12:35
nikkiaMadpilot: you mean J2000.0, right?12:35
iamdaonebecause its become a linux advocacy site12:35
iamdaoneit was started against linux12:35
nikkiaJ2000.0 isn't QUITE julian, there is an offset12:35
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iamdaoneand a bunch of linux advocates took it over lOL12:35
iamdaoneI just stumbled on it12:35
Computer__Gurunikkia12:35
Computer__Guruhelp me12:35
Computer__Gurui killed firefox12:35
Computer__Guruactually, mozilla in general is screwed12:35
WalkmanWell, okay ... I'll do it ... I thought about it ... but it seemed that I had these packages ... I'll check ...12:35
dikadikadoes anyone know if you can remote install??12:36
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nikkiaaltho, if it was MS Space Sim, i think it used an older 'corrected' julian format, B1959.0 i think12:36
Madpilotnikkia: not sure. www.orbitersim.com - pity there isn't a Linux/OpenGL version of it...12:36
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nikkiaah, orbiter, i'm fairly sure that does use J2000.012:36
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Computer__Guruevery time i go to a page with flash, BOOM. crash.. if I remove $HOME/.mozilla i can get to a page until i installt he flash plugin, then boom12:36
nikkiaComputer__Guru: don't install the flash plugin then :P12:37
Neil3Hey all is anyone successfully using the Epson C46UX printer in Ubuntu?12:37
Computer__Guruive uninstalled and reinstalled firefox12:37
Computer__Gurubut i want flash12:37
SeveasComputer__Guru, how did you install the flash plugin?12:37
Computer__Guruthrough firefox12:37
Seveasbad idea :)12:37
tiglionabbitdamn.  Yeah.12:37
Seveasinstall flashplayer-mozilla from apt12:37
Computer__Gurubut ive tried the one from mm as well as flashplugin-nonfree12:37
MadpilotNeil3: http://www.linuxprinting.org/  <-- checked this out?12:37
Computer__Gurutried that one too12:37
tiglionabbitI've observed that if I right-click on 3 different flash files in a row in firefox, it crashes12:38
pbtravellerHi I am having problems starting a tftpd-server to update my phone, atftpd -v /tftpboot returns [directory]  must be a world readable/writable directories. By default /tftpboot is assumed.12:38
Computer__Guruas soon as there's a flash player installed, everything goes boom12:38
SeveasComputer__Guru, that one works fine here, are you on amd64 perhaps?12:38
Neil3Madpilot, yep, I looked there and searched google lots and looked around the gimp-print site, couldn't find anything about this printer :(12:38
Computer__Guruno12:38
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TrixseyHello, I've heard that one can use World of Warcraft, the MMORPG, with Ubuntu through Wine! Anyone knows more about that?12:40
Computer__Guruthis sucks12:40
rob^!cedega12:40
ubotuwell, cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4512:40
Computer__Gurui have no clue what's broken12:40
rob^try that Trixsey12:41
SeveasTrixsey, read what ubotu said :)12:41
TrixseyCedega is better than Wine?12:41
Computer__Guruand the output im getting from firefox isnt telling me jack shit12:41
SeveasTrixsey, for games: yes12:41
SeveasComputer__Guru, try running it from the terminal and paste the output on a pastebin12:41
Computer__Gurusure why not12:41
Computer__Guru{jay@psilocybin (~)}$: firefox12:42
Computer__GuruThe program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.12:42
Computer__GuruThis probably reflects a bug in the program.12:42
Computer__GuruThe error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.12:42
Computer__Guru  (Details: serial 117 error_code 8 request_code 147 minor_code 3)12:42
Computer__Guru  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;12:42
Computer__Guru   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.12:42
Computer__Guru   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line12:42
TrixseyBut World of Warcaft works through Cedega?12:42
Computer__Guru   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful12:42
Computer__Guru   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)12:42
tiglionabbitI'm quite impressed with The Gimp.  I can edit 40 images in it at the same time and it doesn't crash12:42
rob^Computer__Guru, dont paste in here12:42
rob^use a pastebin12:42
Computer__Guruwtf is a pastebin?12:42
tiglionabbit!pastebin12:43
thoreauputicComputer__Guru: you were told12:43
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood12:43
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rob^see the topic12:43
tiglionabbitComputer__Guru: and you call yourself a Computer Guru?12:43
nikkiatiglionabbit: gimp annoys me sometimes :/12:43
Computer__Guruah, i see12:43
tiglionabbitnikkia: hows that?12:43
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Computer__Gurudude, shut the hell up, im in here trying to solve a very cryptic problem, i dont need shit from you12:43
nikkiatiglionabbit: mostly because i keep running into things that end up with 'hmmm, i'll have to write ANOTHER gimp-script :/'12:43
SeveasComputer__Guru, please watch your language12:43
Computer__Guruwill do12:43
Seveastiglionabbit, you too12:43
tiglionabbitComputer__Guru: I was talking about the not reading the /topic and not knowing what a pastebin is part12:43
nikkiatiglionabbit: and there is no decent 'glow' plugin by default12:44
thoreauputicComputer__Guru: well, pay attention to what you're told12:44
jcoxonhey all12:44
nikkiatiglionabbit: in fact, i find that the 'drop-shadow' plugin with offsets of 0,0 makes for a better glow than the 2 standard ones, which is a bit sad12:44
CarinArri have a desktop with two small hds and one big one, i have windows installed on one of the small ones and linux on the other. i want both of them to be able to read and write to the big hd.. what would be a good filesystem to make sure both windows and linux can access them without problems12:44
tiglionabbitnikkia: ah.  Well, I've never really used those features, except on text.  And I draw pretty much with the black pen12:44
SeveasCarinArr, FAT3212:44
Computer__Guruhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/48712:45
Computer__Guruthere ya go12:45
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londonboi2k3Morning guys, one of the IT guys here at work has asked me if there is a way to fool websites in to thinking that Firefox is IE? I know there used to be an extension for this? Could you tell me if this is still the case and where you would find info on it. Thanks very much12:45
nikkiatiglionabbit: my scripts are almost all to do with layers, since i often edit images with 50-200 layers :/12:45
nikkiatiglionabbit: for example, since there's no 'turn all layers except this, off' option, i had to write one as a script12:45
tiglionabbitCarinArr: the only format I know of that both windows and linux can read is fat3212:45
SeveasComputer__Guru, file that (with a detailed description of what you did) as a bug on launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone12:46
tiglionabbitwhy so many layers?  Animated gif?12:46
CarinArrseveas, see that's what i'm using now on the big one, maybe i've not mounted it correctly.. cause i can read and write, i.e. i can do mkdir etc etc.. but if i try to say untar a file on the drive, or copy directories to that drive i get errors12:46
anacronlondonboi2k3: why don't you search firefox extensions page?12:46
londonboi2k3anacron, I have done that, but cant find anything12:46
SeveasCarinArr, can you please paste the error on paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:46
londonboi2k3that is why i am asking here12:46
nikkiatiglionabbit: our artist supplies artwork with all graphical elements as seperate layers, positioned as they should be on the screen12:46
londonboi2k3maybe i missed something?12:46
CarinArrkay 1 sec..12:46
nikkiatiglionabbit:  so if we have 200 graphical elements on the screen, it'll be 200 layers12:46
Computer__GuruSeveas: i dont want to file it as a bug because i know i did it12:46
Computer__GuruSeveas: i just dont know how to undo it, heh12:47
anacronlondonboi2k3: too bad then, if there would be such a thing, i thing i should be listed there :)12:47
nikkiatiglionabbit: tbh, i asked him to start supplying artwork like that, because its a lot easier to cope with than seperate .psd's per element, and then having to guess where they're supposed to be positioned12:47
SeveasComputer__Guru, well, if you removed ~/.mozilla, purged firefox and the flashplugin and then reinstalled it all, it cannot be all your fault12:47
tiglionabbitnikkia: yeouch, why so many?  Heh, what I want to do some day though, is make a drawing program with a completely different concept of layers.  One that would allow you to avoid using layers for most of the things people use them for12:47
londonboi2k3anacron, true, there used to be something there, but i cant find it anymore, But there must still be a way ro do this?12:47
nikkiatiglionabbit: 200 sprites on a screen isn't a lot12:47
SeveasComputer__Guru, remove ~/.macromedia too by the way and retry once more12:48
anacronlondonboi2k3: i'll check if i can find something12:48
nikkiatiglionabbit: bear in mind, that things like push buttons will be 2-3 sprites, normal, pushed, and disabled12:48
thoreauputiclondonboi2k3: user agent switcher I think is the extension name12:48
catfoxhi all. how do i get top to list the processes that are taking the most memory? i've looking at a box with 100% memory usage12:48
Computer__GuruSeveas: don't have a .macromedia12:48
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tiglionabbitcatfox: top12:48
tiglionabbitoops12:48
CarinArrseveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/48912:48
tiglionabbitmisread12:48
nikkiatiglionabbit: btw, i think that concept of not using layers is flawed, 95% of the power of gimp and photoshop comes from effective use of layering :)12:49
tiglionabbitman I should probably sleep12:49
Computer__GuruSeveas: thing is i was trying to get a standalone flash player working and i installed a few different swf/flash libraries.. ive uninstalled (even purged) all of them, but the problem persists12:49
thoreauputiclondonboi2k3: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/useragentswitcher12:49
Madpilotoff to get some sleep myself. later, all12:49
SeveasCarinArr, use tar mzxf12:50
tiglionabbitnikkia: what I mean is a system that would intelligently slice things for you based on the lines you draw, in a vector-like way, so that fills could be handled as if they were separate layers, but in a much quicker way...12:50
SeveasComputer__Guru, ahh, so some crap may still be left on your drive12:50
londonboi2k3thoreauputic, Thanks for that, willl check it out12:50
catfoxany ideas?12:50
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Computer__Gurubut what? and where? and what would firefox be aware of?12:50
catfoxahh shift+M12:50
Seveascatfox, have you read the manpage for top yet?12:50
paulIs it a mistake to install kubuntu instead of ubuntu?12:51
Computer__Guruyouc ant install kubuntu INSTEAD of ubuntu12:51
Computer__Gurukubuntu is part of ubuntu12:51
pauloh12:51
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Computer__Gurui suppose technicallyy ou could use the kubuntu live cd12:51
SeveasComputer__Guru, try purging firefox and all flash-related stuff, then manually remove the firefox dir and the flash dirs (possibly some .dirs in your ~)12:51
Computer__Gurubut why12:51
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SeveasComputer__Guru, kubuntu is not 'part of' ubuntu12:52
paulSo why did ubuntu go for the gnome interface?12:52
Computer__Guruthats what the webpage says :)12:52
Seveaskubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of packages (KDE-centric) installed by default12:52
tiglionabbitComputer__Guru: what are you talking about?  There is a kubuntu install cd12:52
tiglionabbitpaul: I think it would be best to install them both.  Grab an install cd for one, and then grab ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop from apt to get the other one's components12:52
Computer__Guruthere is? nifty, all i saw was the website saying to install ubuntu then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:52
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paulCool.  Will do.  Thanks12:53
tiglionabbitpaul: I dunno, I like gnome.  It feels homey12:53
Seveas:)12:53
arugnome is sexy12:54
paultiglionabbit:  I used to use gnome but the kde has me in a spin.12:54
sam_are there even any big differences between the two?12:54
othernoobhow can i play vobsub subtitles with kaffeine?12:55
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Computer__Guruwell, im going to retire for the day12:55
Computer__Gurui'll work on this later12:55
Computer__Guruty everyone12:55
Computer__Gurui hate when i break stuff and dunno how to fix it.. its rare but it really sucks when it happens12:56
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Seveassam_, quite12:56
SeveasKubuntu is KDE-centric12:56
SeveasUbuntu is gnome-centric12:56
Seveas(the default install)12:57
SeveasBut they use the same repositories, so you can easily install a hybrid system that can do both KDE and gnome12:57
othernoobso technically, it isn't quite a difference Seveas ;)12:58
aruI did that, but then my gnome menus werent so pretty12:58
sam_heh12:58
Seveasothernoob, only the default install12:58
Seveasaru, known 'bug' -> will be fixed for Breezy12:58
othernoobof course, you can only compare default12:58
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aruI knew kde was a bug12:58
Seveas:D12:59
sam_still. what are the major differences?12:59
aruthat wasn't what you meant, was it :)12:59
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Seveasaru, no, but I do agree :)12:59
tiglionabbityeah, you guys, do you know why they made a /usr/share/applications/kde ?  gnome can't see it01:00
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tiglionabbitwhat's worst about it is, it contains most of the files from its parent folder too, so XFCE sees both and has duplicates of most everything in its menu01:00
hahahasamcan someone tell me how to actually download VLC from this site? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html01:01
tiglionabbithahahasam: is it not good enough to use synaptic?01:01
tiglionabbit!vlc01:01
ubotusomebody said vlc was a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formatsbb and excellent streaming support01:01
Seveashahahasam, you don't01:01
tiglionabbit!info vlc01:01
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB01:01
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thoreauputichahahasam: don't bother - it's in the ubuntu repos anyway01:01
Seveassimply install it with synaptic01:01
othernoobhahahasam: just use synaptic01:01
hahahasamsyn what?01:01
tiglionabbithahahasam: enable the universe repository and get it from synaptic01:01
Seveashahahasam, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager01:01
thoreauputic!repos01:01
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:01
hahahasamthanks guys!01:02
thoreauputichahahasam: that will tell you how to enable repos01:02
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catfoxhas anyone here ever suceeded in getting bootsplash working with ubuntu?01:02
tiglionabbit!sources01:02
ubotusources is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories01:02
othernoobso, while we're talking about media players, would anyone happen to know how to play vobsub subtitles with kaffeine?01:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhi ubotu01:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu hi01:02
ubotuprivet, church_of_foamy01:02
tiglionabbitothernoob: I'd use vlc, totem, or mplayer instead01:02
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othernoobtiglionabbit: vlc displays em in black, not good..not good..really not good. mplayer crashes because it can't decode the audio. and i don't have totem01:03
tiglionabbitothernoob: you don't have totem?  But it's standard for ubuntu...  you can get it01:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know why i can connect to irc.austnet.org? with x-chat?01:03
tiglionabbit!totem01:04
ubotutiglionabbit: No idea01:04
tiglionabbit!info totem01:04
ubotutotem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB01:04
othernoobtiglionabbit: yea well, i have kubuntu and really, 3 media players should be enough ;)01:04
tiglionabbit!info totem-gstreamer01:04
ubotutotem-gstreamer: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on gstreamer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 3784 kB01:04
tiglionabbitothernoob: oh, I didn't realize totem didn't come with kubuntu01:04
othernoobwell it's a gnome based prog01:05
tiglionabbit!info kaffeine01:05
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ubotukaffeine: (versatile media player for KDE 3), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.6-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1130 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB01:05
othernoobjust like ubuntu doesn't come with kaffeine01:05
thoreauputictiglionabbit: if you have kaffeine, totem-xine uses the same xine backend01:05
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Whistlerhow can i install kylix?01:05
tiglionabbitwell I have ubuntu and kubuntu, so I can't tell the difference01:05
sam_isnt this gnome vs kde a bit annoying?01:06
tiglionabbitsam_: yes.  Just get both01:06
thoreauputicsam_: both have their advantages, it's a matter of taste really01:06
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Whistlerwhere can i get kylix?01:07
WalkmanSince you are talking about packages and synaptic, I've got some question. My root password, when asked, does not work with synaptic and other utilities, but in terminal with 'su' command works ok ?01:07
tiglionabbitWhistler: uh, I haven't heard of that.  Is it on jdodson's game list?01:07
tiglionabbit!newusers01:07
ubotunewusers is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers01:07
tiglionabbitWhistler: ubuntu uses gksudo for its gui.  This uses your user password, not root01:07
WalkmanWhy is that ? How to fix this ?01:08
thoreauputicWhistler: isn't Kylix a bit long in the tooth? Haven't seen much about it for years01:08
tiglionabbitWhistler: the ubuntu developers decided that it was easier for users to only have one password01:08
P3L|C4N0Whistler, http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_kylix.html01:08
tiglionabbitoops01:08
tiglionabbitI meant those both to go to Walkman01:08
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SeveasWalkman, this is fixed01:09
Seveasusing a root password is a bug and insecure01:09
SeveasWalkman: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:09
nikkiatiglionabbit: calling kylix a game did seem a bit odd :P01:09
Shorty`!java01:09
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:09
WalkmanOkay, I will.01:09
tiglionabbitnikkia: oh oops, what is it then?01:09
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nikkiatiglionabbit: the linux equivalent/version of delphi01:09
tiglionabbitnikkia: oooh hehe sorry, thought the name sounded game-like, and assumed if it wasn't in the repos it must be a game01:10
Whistler=] 01:10
Whistler:D01:10
tiglionabbitflawed logic I know01:11
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aruwhere do you set what applications open for certian file types?01:12
Chongohi, i'm in the process of trying to move over to ubuntu 5.04 from windows xp. when i plug in my lacie d2 usb hard drive, it doesn't mount, and i'm not sure what to do. can anyone help me? i formatted it with FAT32 using partition magic yesterday.01:13
aruDUH01:13
arunevermind01:13
WalkmanSeveas: It does not fix my problem. Still, it does not work. I tried both - my password and the root password - I get only errors01:13
SeveasWalkman, what is the output of: sudo synaptic01:14
Seveas(in a terminal)01:14
tiglionabbitWalkman: you must be in the admin group, and listed in sudoers (visudo) but listen to Seveas first01:14
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Seveastiglionabbit, only one of these is neccessary :)01:14
ChurcH_of_FoamY! java howto01:14
ubotuChurcH_of_FoamY: I don't know, could you explain it?01:14
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 01:15
tiglionabbitSeveas: either/or, or just the sudoers?01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok01:15
Seveastiglionabbit, the admin group is in /etc/sudoers by default01:15
WalkmanSeveas: Hmm ... interesting ... my first and only user does not apper to be in sudoers file (the message says)01:15
tiglionabbitoh01:15
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nikkiawalkman, your user probably is member of 'admin' group01:16
SeveasWalkman, have you installed hoary clean or upgraded from warty?01:16
nikkiaif you notice, %admin has sudo privs in the sudoers file01:16
WalkmanSeveas: Clean hoary, from DVD01:16
Seveasnikkia, not if you upgraded from warty...01:16
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SeveasWalkman, odd, you said you have set a root password?01:17
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tiglionabbitSeveas: I was pretty sure I installed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 from hoary-extras or somewhere like that.  Is this possible?01:17
WalkmanSeveas: Yes I did01:17
Seveastiglionabbit, ack01:17
othernoobtiglionabbit: yea01:17
tiglionabbitSeveas: ack what?01:17
pepsiSeveas: did i tell you i borked my desktop with breezy? im sure you're proud01:17
othernoobtiglionabbit: but why did you install the jre as well?01:17
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WalkmanSeveas: I used "expert" install01:18
othernoobtiglionabbit: the jdk comes with the jre01:18
tiglionabbitoh01:18
SeveasWalkman, then drop to another VT (with <ctrl><alt><f1> (<alt><f7> brings you back to the gui)) and add your first and only user to the sudoers file01:18
G|immerhello everybody01:18
SeveasWalkman, yeah, that skips sudo :)01:18
Chongodoes anyone have a solution for my question? i can't see the drive in device manager either, whether i plug it in directly, or into my powered usb 2 hub01:18
Seveastiglionabbit, java is in hoary-extras01:18
Seveasbut i'd rather refrain from advising it unless neccessary01:18
tiglionabbitSeveas: yeah.  So why do you instruct people otherwise?  I thought hoary-extras was supported now01:18
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tiglionabbitthey fixed the konversation thing01:19
TrixseyHow long does it take to download and compile cedega? I been waiting for 5 min now01:19
thoreauputicTrixsey: 5 minutes? You poor thing ... </irony>01:20
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WalkmanSeveas: Where could I find "sudoers file"01:20
SeveasWalkman, /etc/sudoers01:20
tiglionabbitTrixsey: ever download something on broadband that takes your 8 hours?  I have01:21
aruwhy does my file browser window jump around when I open a new folder?01:21
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thoreauputicWalkman: use the "visudo" command01:21
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Trixseythoreauputic,  how big is it then? I've got a 10mbit connection :( And I'm not downloading something now... This is compiling01:21
TrixseyA smaller program01:21
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podgetiglionabbit: Something like the latest season of Lost? :)01:21
sam_lost. bleh01:21
tiglionabbitaru: guess it's configured that way.  I believe there are guides for how to change it.  You change configs for it in applications -> system tools -> configuration editor.  apps -> nautilus01:21
othernoobif only lost was really..lost..01:21
podgesam_: hehe..01:22
thoreauputicTrixsey: I have no idea how big it is - I don't use it01:22
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podgeAnyone here installed Windows 2000 lately? ;)01:22
tiglionabbitpodge: uh, no...    ragnarok online, the english hacked version for windows.  And a few other things01:22
Juuli have a dell D410 laptop (with a i915 graphics card) and i've seen others write that everything worked fine, and it does, X boots up fine and i get the startup sound, but the display just goes blank when X starts01:22
rwabelhi01:22
rwabelAnyone using kernel 2.6.11? any problems with it?01:22
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Seveasrwabel, 2.6.11 is known to be broken and unsupprted01:23
Trixseynvm01:23
Trixseyits done now01:23
thoreauputicrwabel: known issues with 2.6.1101:23
Seveasrwabel, do NOT use the ubuntu 2.6.11 packages01:23
rwabelseveas: thanks01:23
othernoobSeveas: why is 2.6.11 not supported?01:23
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rwabelseveas: I've read in forums about some problems. good to know :-)01:23
G|immeri have successfully messed up my grub installation and could not even boot into windows. had to do a reinstall of Ubuntu! lol01:23
Chongohello. i am trying to mount my lacie d2 usb hard drive. when i plug it in directly or to a powered usb 2 hub, it doesn't mount automatically like my flash drive. it doesn't appear in the device manager as far as i can see. can anyone help?01:23
WalkmanSeveas: Well, there is a root only, should I copy the same parameters for my account kinda "ALL =(ALL) ALL"  ??01:24
SeveasWalkman, indeed01:24
podgetiglionabbit: Have not played it.. The screenshots on the site look good though..01:24
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idontknowdouIs there a Linux equivelent to MS Visual Studio?01:24
Seveasidontknowdou, eclipse01:24
Timboanjuta, kdevelop01:24
tiglionabbitpodge: meh, it's just an RPG.  I don't really like em.  If you must play a crazy korean online game for windows, try gunbound01:24
WalkmanSeveas: Thank you. Gosh, it's good to learn something new01:24
podgeG|immer: You could have booted off your LInux installation CD and fixed the grub.conf..01:25
Seveas(or people like me would say: vim)01:25
Timboeclipse isn't really analogous to VS01:25
G|immerpodge: i did, and i mounted the linux partition, but did not know what to do :'(01:25
tiglionabbitidontknow why people would want to use VS01:25
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podgetiglionabbit: I play two online games.. those being Unreal Tournament (original) and Call of Duty..01:25
tiglionabbitother than that they have windows and it beats dev-c++01:25
ColonelKernelI play ut2004, counterstrike, and desertcombat01:26
podgeG|immer: What did you change to stuff it up? :)01:26
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Walkmanidontknowdou: There is nothing equivalent to VS, sorry.01:26
othernoobpeople still play counterstrike...weird world...weird world..01:26
aruthat window thing is the only little annoyance I have now :)01:26
podgeidontknowdou: What language do you want to develop in?01:26
ColonelKernelothernoob, good way to test out cedega functioning01:27
G|immerpodge: i used Partition MAgic in windows to change 1st partition on 2nds HDD to FAT32 so i can safely use it with Linux. I then found som 8mb of free space before the 2nd partition, so I added them to it. and.. bang.. Grub said Error 17 and died. lol01:27
TimboWalkman: anjtuta or kdevelop are pretty close01:27
Walkmanidontknowdou: Along with VB, VC#, there is nothing like this in Linux. I switched to Java from VS.01:27
podgeG|immer: That sounds bad.. the 8MB free space is usually for partition alignment..01:28
tiglionabbitWalkman: why not C?01:28
TimboWalkman: C# is available on linux01:28
othernoobColonelKernel: i never grasped the concept of terrorist vs antiterrorist and buying weapons while you run around :/01:28
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G|immerpodge: i guess it was, because after messing with it, it tortured me the whole of yesterday. hehe01:29
podgeTimbo: Have you used the Mono dev environment?01:29
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ColonelKernelothernoob, its watching the blood fly out, plus it aims and shoots realistically01:29
ColonelKernelif you aint hackin01:29
Walkmantiglionabbit: Because it is not quite that simple for everyone. Some people start from VB and then VC# ... and so on ...01:29
othernoobColonelKernel: yes blood, what could one want more ;)01:30
podgeHow many reboots to install Ubuntu? 1? Windows 2000 = 10+ after patches and drivers and virus scanning etc..01:30
ColonelKernelguts?01:30
othernoobgood point..01:30
othernoobgooood point01:30
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idontknowdouvb??01:30
raven3x7hi01:30
idontknowdouwhere what is that initial for?01:30
tiglionabbitWalkman: but there's "The C Programming Language, by Kernighan and Ritchie"01:30
G|immerAbout 4 days ago, a link was posted here to a websile.. something.ubuntulinux.nl I think, which had links to recommended repositories. Can someone re-post it please?01:30
msieradzkiso: i changed to breezy and i have error in x-common01:30
msieradzkithis **** package contains only some /usr/share/doc01:30
msieradzkiand symlink in /usr/01:31
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Walkmanidontknowdou: yep, some start from the easiest ...01:31
msieradzkihow can i decompress .deb archive and manually change something in it?01:31
idontknowdouis there a java studio for Linux?01:31
mindspinwhere do i install true type fonts?01:31
nikkiaidontknowdou: eclipse or netbeans01:32
thoreauputicmsieradzki: file-roller will decompress a deb, or use dpkg -x from memory01:32
tiglionabbit/usr/share/fonts/truetype01:32
msieradzkiand how to compress them again?01:32
msieradzkii have some awful errors when updating01:32
Walkmantiglionabbit: how about something like Thinking in Java, by Bruce Eckel" and like "UML and patterns, by C. Larman" :-)01:32
Chongohello everyone. i am trying to switch to ubuntu from windows, but i am being stumped by my lacie d2 usb hard drive (formatted with FAT32). when i plug it in, it doesn't automatically mount, does anyone know how to mount things manually?01:33
tiglionabbitWalkman: uh..   but that's about Java01:33
Chongoit doesn't show up in the device manager01:33
tiglionabbitWalkman: who would want to learn Java?01:33
othernoobtiglionabbit: some are forced to :/01:33
Walkmantiglionabbit: Java works for me just fine01:33
raven3x7how does one deal with md3sum mismatch? do you report it somewhere?01:33
PanzerboyChongo: try first sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda01:33
raven3x7md5sum01:33
PanzerboyChongo: and see if there is a partition01:33
Whistlerwhat is default ubuntu root user pass?01:34
PanzerboyChongo: if not, try the same with /dev/sdb01:34
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SeveasWhistler: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:34
raven3x7Whistler , there is no root01:34
Seveasthere is no root password01:34
Seveasthere is root :)01:34
tiglionabbithmm01:34
xfSxraven that just means your dowen01:34
Panzerboy!root01:34
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:34
Hieronymusraven3x7: us server perhaps?01:34
tiglionabbitthere is only the matrix01:34
xfSxraven that just means your download failed, dl it again?01:35
tiglionabbitI mean the sudoers01:35
PanzerboyWhistler: see !root01:35
Hieronymus!usserver01:35
ubotuHieronymus: I don't know01:35
msieradzkihalo - how to compress to .deb archive when i decompressed it?01:35
raven3x7Hieronymus yes with mplayer01:35
G|immerThe Gnome CD/DVD Creator does not support multisession?!01:35
Hieronymusraven3x7: the us server is sorta broken01:35
Walkmanidontknowdou: There is something like Eclipse, NetBeans (I personally use them)01:35
Whistlerthx01:35
Hieronymusraven3x7: use the general archive.ubuntu.com01:35
tiglionabbitew, netbeans...01:35
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thoreauputicmsieradzki: have you tried looking in man dpkg?01:36
raven3x7Hieronymus: will do. thanks01:36
tiglionabbitI tried to use that program.  It didn't like me01:36
podgetiglionabbit: Have you tried 4.1?01:36
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martiganhello01:36
tiglionabbitpodge: dunno, what's different?  Does it not crash and screw up and yell at me?01:36
Panzerboycool01:36
Panzerboylet's all start an eclipse vs netbeans vs intellij idea flame :)01:37
Walkmantiglionabbit: I do not like it either, but stick to Eclipse. Or some text editor for a change & manual .java compiles ...01:37
Panzerboywouldn't that be super duper cool ? :)01:37
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msieradzkiahhhh, i forgot but i don't remember01:37
podgetiglionabbit: Netbeans 4.x is much better than the 3.x series..01:37
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TenochHello everyone, I have a question about the Live CD : is it certain that it wont write anything on the hard drive ?01:37
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tiglionabbitWalkman: I use emacs and vim.  No IDEs for me01:37
Whistleryep01:37
TenochI'd like to try Ubuntu, but I hav to use a computer that iis not mine01:37
anacronTenoch: live cd? :D01:38
ChongoTenoch: why don't you download the live cd and give it a try?01:38
WhistlerTenoch it wont do anyhing to your files01:38
TenochI would be in serious trouble if I damaged the disk...01:38
martigani'm sure you will like it ;)01:38
PanzerboyTenoch: it is certain it won't write anything on the hard drive01:38
schasiSomeone running eterm with hoary without the problem of umlauts getting shown in a weird way?01:38
schasiAnd can tell me how?01:38
IceDC571hey, im trying to do cdrdao -h but i cant scroll up to see all the commands it listed, how do i make the terminal scrollable?01:38
TenochOK01:38
tiglionabbitTenoch: livecd will not write anything to hard disk unless you mount things and chroot01:38
TenochThanks everyone01:38
Walkmantiglionabbit: I am new to UB. I have used these in my previous OS: Doors01:38
Tenochgreat01:38
PanzerboyIceDC571: ctrl+page up doesn't work ?01:38
IceDC571Panzerboy: i'll try that thanks01:38
Panzerboysorry, shift+page up01:38
Panzerboyups01:38
podgeIceDC571: Or is it Shift-Page up.. :)01:38
Panzerboyhe left01:39
ChongoPanzerboy: I couldn't find the partition using either of the lines you asked me to try01:39
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podgePanzerboy: He was in a rush.. hehe..01:39
PanzerboyChongo: that's pretty strange01:39
PanzerboyChongo: do this01:39
msieradzkican someone look at it: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/49101:39
anacronschasi: i think you are using utf-8, and most computers use iso-8859, so change that01:39
PanzerboyChongo: take out the drive01:39
PanzerboyChongo: open a terminal01:39
PanzerboyChongo: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages01:40
PanzerboyChongo: put the drive back in01:40
PanzerboyChongo: see if it says something01:40
martiganAnyone knows what file to edit to enable remote desktop login? My box is to far away to enable it in gnome ;). I have telnet access...01:40
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thoreauputicmartigan: telnet? bad news - why not ssh?01:40
arui may have asked before, but is there a gnome application for partitioning or formatting hard disks?01:40
Whistleryes01:40
arucool01:41
Whistlergparted01:41
Panzerboyaru: gparted01:41
ChongoPanzerboy: it says lots of things - it seems to detect the usb mass storage driver and load it correctly01:41
aruthats what it was, knew I already asked01:41
PanzerboyChongo: go to pastebin.com01:41
martiganfirewall thoreauputic, i have to set that up asap01:41
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PanzerboyChongo: and paste there01:41
PanzerboyChongo: then paste the link here01:41
schasianacron: Are you proposing to switch my entire System to iso-whatever and losing all ' and umlauts i have done on my harddisks?01:41
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tiglionabbitsay guys, is it possible to, in a string of commands, read in a list of files from a text file (one file per line) and copy them to a certain directory, renamed as something#.ext so the number increases with each file?01:41
tiglionabbitI should probably write a script for that =P01:42
tiglionabbitjust curious01:42
thoreauputicschasi: AFAIK eterm and aterm don't support utf-801:42
Panzerboytiglionabbit: it is possible with a one line perl command :)01:42
Panzerboytiglionabbit: i am SURE of that :)01:42
anacronschasi: you can change only your irc client's "encoding"01:42
Panzerboytiglionabbit: i just don't know that command :P01:42
tiglionabbitPanzerboy: yep, was thinking of using perl01:42
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schasiDoes my keyboard give utf-8 to the eterm?01:42
thoreauputicschasi: xterm and gnome-terminal should be fine with utf-801:42
ChongoPanzerboy: what do you want me to paste, there's quite a lot?01:43
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PanzerboyChongo: the usb related stuff01:43
schasiBecause it should display umlautz quite well locally01:43
tiglionabbitI could do it all in perl too, if I could remember how to copy a file using perl01:43
Panzerboywhat was written when you plugged in the disk01:43
mindspinsys cp01:43
mindspin;-)01:43
arugparted doesnt let you change the mount point?01:43
ChongoPanzerboy: how does this pastebin site work? and do you just want me to paste it in here?01:43
Whistleri donloaded file via wget and i dont know where it is?01:44
PanzerboyChongo: go to pastebin.com01:44
ChongoPanzerboy: oh i see01:44
Panzerboypaste it there01:44
Whistleris there any default path?01:44
ChongoPanzerboy: duh01:44
Panzerboythen it should give you a link01:44
Panzerboypaste the link here :p01:44
thoreauputicWhistler: in the dir you called it from01:44
Panzerboy5. profit !!! :P01:44
spanglesontoastcan i make a distro using ubuntu and lfs?01:44
podgetiglionabbit: That should be easy to do in bash..01:45
Panzerboyaru: i guess you would have to unmount it first01:45
thoreauputicWhistler: wget puts it in your working dir by default01:45
ChongoPanzerboy: http://pastebin.com/31111901:45
Whistlerthx01:45
Panzerboyaru: but then again, i've never used gparted01:45
Whistlerspanglesontoast i think you can do it01:45
aruPanzerboy, the drives arent mounted01:45
raven3x7so now i installed mplayer but doesnt start. i get this pop up starting mplayer and it just disappears01:45
spanglesontoastoks cool01:45
G|immerwhat do u recommend as a free Gnome burner that supports mutlisession and such? Perhaps a Nero-alike01:45
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WhistlerG|immer gnome baker01:45
podgetiglionabbit: So you have filename.txt and textfile.txt and you want them called filename1.txt and textfile2.txt?01:45
PanzerboyChongo: it's strange, it should be on /dev/sdb01:46
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nikkiatiglionabbit: man rename01:46
michaelyeah01:46
michaelhold on01:46
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exparrotthis better?01:46
G|immerWhistler: thanks. it has a nice name, hope it makes bread. lol01:46
PanzerboyChongo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb -  what does this show?01:46
ChongoPanzerboy: when i run the command you asked me to it doesn't show anything01:47
exparrotanyone know how to eject an in-use CD? I need to pop in "disk 2" for a game install under wine....01:47
Panzerboyhmm01:47
Panzerboystrange indeed01:47
HieronymusG|immer: sorry to disappoint you, it only toasts CDs01:47
Panzerboymaybe some module is not loaded?01:47
ChongoPanzerboy: the drive definitely works, as it was using it to back up 60 gigs of stuff yesterday on windows01:47
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ex-parrottest?01:47
WhistlerG|immer i use it its really functional and simple01:47
G|immerHieronymus: darn! hehehehe01:47
PanzerboyChongo: well, i have had sort of reverse experience with a usb drive01:47
aruwell poop :\01:47
PanzerboyChongo: it doesn't work in windows but it works in linux01:48
Chongohaha01:48
Panzerboytrue01:48
Chongogood stuff01:48
msieradzkiwow, i have built .deb file01:48
thoreauputicex-parrot: try umount -l /dev/cdrom  then eject01:48
Panzerboyin windows it freezes the machine01:48
G|immerWhistler: just what am asking for, then. thx.01:48
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Panzerboyso i really don't know what to say01:48
Panzerboytry browsing ubuntuforums.org01:48
ChongoPanzerboy: it's just kind of a show stopper in terms of switching to linux, because all my stuff is on it! :-(01:48
ex-parrotthoreauputic, the drive is still locked !!01:48
Panzerboyfor some usb related problems01:48
Panzerboyi understand01:49
G|immeranother thing, how can i make files to be owned by both root and my user?01:49
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Panzerboyfor me, the drive, the usb stick and the camera worked out of the box01:49
thoreauputicex-parrot: try prepending sudo to that command01:49
ex-parrotG|immer, why bother having stuff owned by root?01:49
ChongoPanzerboy: well, thanks so much for all of the help - you are a legend of the highest magnitude01:49
charles_where do i get w32codecs01:49
ex-parrotthoreauputic, it's unmounted but the drive is still locked shut :P01:49
tiglionabbitpodge: no, I have a file that has "file1.ext /dir2/file4.xt file5.ext" on different lines and I want it to end up with "sketch1.gif sketch2.gif sketch3.gif" in some other directory, but i'll just script it...01:49
podgetiglionabbit: Already learning perl? :)01:49
PanzerboyChongo: lol, no problem :)01:49
liableChongo: post the results of fdisk.01:49
qt2...FOAMY WRATH!01:49
Whistlercharles_ sudo apt-get install01:49
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Whistlercharles_ sudo apt-get install w32codecs01:49
thoreauputicex-parrot: try sudo eject /dev/cdrom01:49
msieradzkigreat, i have installed x-common in my own version :D01:49
tiglionabbitpodge: I got a little of it in school, yeah.  Heh, I'm not super worried about it right now, I know I'll be able to do it when I need to01:49
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charles_Whistler, doesnt exist, yes i have updated repositories01:50
raven3x7dawm mplayer wont start01:50
RipTheDeadhi01:50
ex-parrotlovely thoreauputic01:50
ex-parrotthanks :D01:50
thoreauputic:)01:50
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qt2pssh.01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYqt2 welcome01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^01:50
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qt2;)01:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea thats right foamy uses linux01:50
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, you miss what i said?01:50
Panzerboyraven3x7: how come it doesn't start?01:50
msieradzkianyone: tried upgrading from hoary to breezy recently?01:51
charles_Whistler, it doesnt exist :\01:51
Panzerboyraven3x7: is it giving an error, or smth ?01:51
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Chongoliable: sda just detects my laptop's hard drive partitions, sdb doesn't do anything01:51
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tiglionabbitmsieradzki: I'd hope not01:51
G|immerex-parrot: they are already set to be owned by root. It seems eveything i do in root terminal is set as owned by root, too?! :(01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYqt2 must have >.<01:51
podgetiglionabbit: Can you cut and paste a sample of your file on pastebin?..I could give you a script in a few minutes..01:51
msieradzkihehe, i'm trying now01:51
liableChongo: paste 'sudo fdisk -l'01:51
msieradzkiyeah i know01:51
msieradzkidon't use breezy yet etc.01:51
charles_Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:51
charles_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:51
charles_is only available from another source01:51
charles_E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate01:51
Panzerboycharles_: it is in backports01:51
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qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, *ahem* well then...01:51
Panzerboy!backports01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou will all feel my squerlly rath01:51
uboturumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:51
ex-parrotthoreauputic, now automounting CDs is broken :P01:52
tiglionabbitpodge: don't worry about it, if it takes a script I'll write it myself01:52
qt2...foaMY WRATH!01:52
charles_Panzerboy, thanks01:52
Panzerboysee what ubotu has to say about backports :)01:52
Whistlercharles_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/01:52
podgetiglionabbit: Cool..01:52
qt2err..01:52
qt2crap..01:52
ex-parrotG|immer, chown youruser:youruser files01:52
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^01:52
Chongoliable: http://pastebin.com/31112101:52
ex-parrotto put them back01:52
Panzerboyumm01:52
qt2i screwed it up...01:52
Panzerboy!ubguide01:52
uboturumour has it, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)01:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYqt2 it's ok ^_^ i for give you01:52
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MrMaDSeNany got som nice themes for gnome?01:52
tiglionabbit!newusers01:52
thoreauputicex-parrot: ubuntu doesn't use automount....01:52
ubotuwell, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers01:52
Panzerboyyeah, ubotu rulez01:52
qt2its squirrley... *stabs self in eye with foamy's soda can...*01:52
Panzerboy!snack01:52
ubotuPanzerboy: Wish i knew01:52
tiglionabbitsomeone made an automatic mounting script though01:53
Panzerboy:)01:53
charles_Whistler, lol thnx?01:53
Panzerboylol01:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:53
ex-parrotthoreauputic, it did, I put in the first CD and it automounted to the desktop01:53
raven3x7Panzerboy: i get a pop up saying "Starting Mplayer" and then it just disappears01:53
aruhow will I know if my changes to fstab worked?01:53
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Panzerboyraven3x7: try from the command line01:53
ex-parrotdamn this game installer, it was going so well!01:53
thoreauputicex-parrot: you mean gnome isn't putting an icon on the desktop, not he same thing01:53
Panzerboyraven3x7: try like this: mplayer -vo xv -ao esd <file>01:53
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ex-parrotthoreauputic, I guess not. regardless, it's mounted now and the installer isn't liking it :(01:53
Panzerboyraven3x7: and tell me if it gives u any errors01:53
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podgeAny MythTV users here?01:53
thoreauputicex-parrot: ah, well that's a differnet issue I guess01:53
ex-parrotindeed thoreauputic01:54
liableChongo: its still plugged in?01:54
Chongoliable: even now, it is plugged in01:54
anacroncan i make live stream with ubuntu?01:54
ex-parrotactually, thoreauputic , methinks it has not mounted as it shows as having nothing in it01:54
raisaeoooo01:54
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liableChongo: 'sudo lsmod | grep vfat'01:55
Panzerboy!mplayer01:55
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto01:55
thoreauputicex-parrot: maybe do a manual mount like ` mount /dev/cdrom ` or whatever01:55
ex-parrotI did, thoreauputic :)01:55
raven3x7Panzerboy: i get a segmentation fault01:55
Panzerboyliable: it doesn't matter if the vfat module is loaded or not, it still has to be shown with fdisk01:55
ex-parrotnow when I try and unmount I get umount: it seems /dev/hdc is mounted multiple times01:55
martigananyone knows how to enable remote desktop trough telnet (what file to edit) instead of the gnome/remote desktop menu?01:56
Panzerboyraven3x7: that's strange, are you using hoary ?01:56
Chongoliable: done that?01:56
martiganstill searching :(01:56
raven3x7yeah01:56
thoreauputicex-parrot: ah - a result of umount -l probably01:56
ex-parrot:)01:56
Panzerboyraven3x7: what mplayer package have you installed?01:56
ex-parrotlazy unmount isn't it? I'm  not quite clear on what it actually does01:56
Panzerboymplayer-386?01:56
liableChongo: no result?01:56
raven3x7i tried both 386 and 58601:56
Chongoliable: nothing happened, i tried fdisk again and there's nothing new01:57
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msieradzkihmm looks like sudo dpkg-reconfigure in breezy tries to generate ALL locales01:57
msieradzkireconfigure locales01:57
Panzerboyraven3x7: then it's strane01:57
Panzerboystrange01:57
liableChongo: modprobe vfat01:57
liablesudo01:57
Panzerboyhave u installed some weird stuff?01:57
raven3x7Panzerboy: define weird01:58
Panzerboyliable: again, what's that have to do with fdisk not showing his partitions ?01:58
Panzerboyraven3x7: duno, another libc?01:58
Panzerboyraven3x7: backports?01:58
raven3x7no01:58
raven3x7no01:58
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Panzerboyraven3x7: try running it with strace01:58
ex-parrotI'm going to reboot and start again01:58
raven3x7what is strace? an option?01:59
thoreauputicex-parrot: umount -l tries to clear up the mess after umount - I guess it might not have done on this occasion01:59
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Panzerboyraven3x7: strace mplayer blah blah01:59
nikkiathoreauputic: it tries to clean up after the mount point is no longer in use01:59
Chongoliable: http://pastebin.com/31112601:59
Panzerboyraven3x7: it will show a lot of weird stuff on the screen01:59
Hieronymusraven3x7: man strace for the manual. Always comes in handy :-)02:00
nikkiathoreauputic: if wine was still marking it busy, its not going to clean up until wine stops02:00
thoreauputicnikkia: OK - thanks02:00
Panzerboyraven3x7: but we might find out why it's segfaulting02:00
thoreauputicnikkia: aha02:00
PanzerboyChongo: sudo modprobe vfat02:00
TrixseyAnyone here familiar with Cedega? I'm getting a few error messages...02:00
liableChongo: sudo first02:00
raven3x7Panzerboy yeah it did show a lot of debug info02:00
Panzerboyraven3x7: pastebin-it :)02:00
Panzerboythe last patyt02:01
Panzerboypart02:01
Panzerboy:)02:01
Chongoliable: it didn't do anything02:01
thoreauputicnikkia: umount -l worked for another person with a similar problem, so I advised it for this one: he seems to have left though02:01
liableChongo: good02:01
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liableChongo: now unplug it, then plug it in again.02:02
msieradzkican bugzilla.ubuntu.com say what is my login, it's sending email with link so you can change password but i don't remember my login02:02
raven3x7Panzerboy: http://pastebin.com/31112902:02
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msieradzkii remember email, password but **** not login02:02
aruok, so do I have to reboot to see if my fstab changes worked?02:02
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liablearu: no, just remount.02:03
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Panzerboyraven3x7: see this: /etc/ld.so.nohwcap02:03
aruwhats that mean02:03
Panzerboyraven3x7: maybe you're missing some codecs02:03
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raven3x7uhm yeah... maybe this asnt the best file to test mplayer. its an avi02:04
Chongoliable: no dice. but it does screw up the console when i fdisk, i have to quit it and then start it again, because it doesn't go back to the prompt?02:04
msieradzkiahh succeeded, i found login :)02:04
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aruyeah I dont know what it means to remount02:04
Chongoliable: oh no seems to be ok now02:04
Chongoliable: the console that is02:05
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liableChongo: hmm, but no see?02:05
Chongoliable: no hard drive :-(02:05
Panzerboyraven3x7: avi but it can be encoded with many codecs :)02:05
PanzerboyChongo: try to mount it blindly02:05
martigananyone with a dell mobile m cpu that got scaling working by a change?02:05
ChongoPanzerboy: how do you do that?02:05
PanzerboyChongo: like this sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/drive02:05
Panzerboywith /mnt/drive directory created first02:06
Panzerboyraven3x7: did you install the win32codecs package?02:06
raven3x7Panzerboy : yes although /etc/ld.so.nohwcap is empty02:07
idontknowdoueclipse is nice02:07
ChongoPanzerboy: erm, it doesn't seem to want to let me create a directory there?02:07
PanzerboyChongo: sudo mkdir /mnt/drive02:07
Chongoliable: thanks for the help - you are a legend!02:08
Chongook02:08
othernoobaru: just type sudo mount -a  to remount /etc/fstab without rebooting02:08
Panzerboyor02:08
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PanzerboyChongo: better yet sudo mkdir /media/drive02:08
Panzerboyit looks like /media is the new recommended directory02:08
Panzerboyraven3x7: strange, i was googling for this etc/ld.so.nohwcap thing02:09
aruthanks othernoob02:09
Chongooh02:09
othernoobyou're welcome aru02:09
Panzerboyraven3x7: and there are a lot of strange things related to this02:09
ChongoPanzerboy: how do you delete a directory02:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYany one know how to kill the desktop without killing the menu bars?02:09
PanzerboyChongo: sudo rmdir /mnt/drive02:09
Panzerboy:)02:09
Panzerboysorry, my bad :)02:09
Panzerboyi am so used with mnt02:09
raven3x7Panzerboy im guessing it shouldn't be empty?02:09
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, what do you mean..?02:09
kestaskill the desktop?02:09
Seveasrefreshing the desktop..?02:09
Panzerboyraven3x7: let me check out mine02:10
Panzerboyi don't have that file02:10
aruI have successfully edited fstab myself for the first time, I love me02:10
Panzerboytry deleting it02:10
Panzerboy:)02:10
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Panzerboyaru: good for you :)02:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYno kill it i'm running chbg and it's hiding behind the desktop for some reason02:10
ChongoPanzerboy: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist02:10
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: nautilus draws the desktop in gnome02:11
liableChongo: just sdb, check dmesg again if you have plugged it in again..02:11
kestasyou may be able to change nautilus conf02:11
Panzerboyraven3x7: see here, maybe you can find something http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mplayer+ld.so.nohwcap&btnG=Search02:11
kestasnot sure though never tried it02:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYso killing naut would not be a good idea02:11
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: so it's an extra layer on top of the root window02:11
PanzerboyChongo: ok, try with /dev/sdb instead02:11
PanzerboyChongo: and if it doesn't work, try /dev/sdb202:11
Chongoliable: dmesg?02:12
PanzerboyChongo: and if it still doesn't work, then i don't know anymore :P02:12
PanzerboyChongo: sudo dmesg02:12
tiglionabbitnautilus will restart when you kill it.  Don't worry about it02:12
tiglionabbittry it out02:12
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: non-gnome background tools tend to use the root window, so nautilus hides the result02:12
Panzerboyraven3x7: try to start mplayer with -vo x11 instead of -vo xv02:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok02:13
ChongoPanzerboy: ooh interesting things in that dmesg thing02:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic whats a good background program for ubuntu that changes the wallpaper every X minutes?02:13
mpmcCan someone tell me what's the best php editer for ubunto.02:13
mpmcu*02:13
anacronnano :D02:14
ChongoPanzerboy: http://pastebin.com/31113702:14
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Triffid_Hunteryeah nano has syntax highlighting if you tell it to ;)02:14
mpmcok02:14
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: for gnome, i don't know - for other window managers you can do it in a number of ways02:14
crankbenHi, I wonder in which directory the codecs for Mplayer must be copied? Installation instructions say it's /usr/local/lib/codecs but02:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYk02:14
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<02:14
PanzerboyChongo: checking out right now02:14
Panzerboycrankben: you can apt-get w32codecs02:14
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aruactually it wasnt successful, I cant write to the disks :)02:15
PanzerboyChongo: indeed, interesting things02:15
PanzerboyChongo: not very good things02:15
Panzerboybrb02:15
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: I prefer other window managers partly for these kinds of reasons - in gnome it's the gnome-way or the highway ;)02:15
aru/dev/hdc1       /home/aru/mp3   ext3    defaults       0       0 <- shouldn't that work fine?02:16
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ed1thow can i format an ext3 partition?02:16
nightswimmkfs.ext302:16
raven3x7Panzerboy same thing02:17
TenochRe02:17
TenochBooted on live CD02:17
ed1tno i mean i already have a ext3 parititon....but there is stuff in it, i need to format it02:17
Tenochjust happy02:17
Tenoch:)02:17
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Seveased1t, mkfs.ext3 formats it...02:17
idontknowdouwhen will Breezy badger be worth downloading?02:17
ed1tk02:17
ed1tSeveas, but how do i select which partition?02:18
Panzerboyidontknowdou: in october this year02:18
ed1tthere are like 4 parititons on this hard drive02:18
Panzerboyraven3x7: sorry02:18
idontknowdouok02:18
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Seveased1t, mkfs.ext3 /dev/your_partition02:18
ed1tk02:18
Panzerboyraven3x7: try to look at some of those links in that google search02:18
Hieronymusidontknowdou: when it's done if you want stable, when you're in the mood when you want to test02:18
aruusing defaults in the fstab should make it writeable right?02:18
mpmcI meant a GUI editor02:18
PanzerboyChongo: maybe the drive got screwed up in the meantime02:18
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mpmcso..  I'm looking for a GUI, editor for PHP02:19
PanzerboyChongo: try it again in windows, maybe do a scandisk or smth02:19
mdeboerhello02:19
idontknowdouI have no problem with it being a bit buggy, but right now I have heard its a bit of mess02:19
idontknowdoui want it reasonably stable02:19
Panzerboympmc: quanta02:19
idontknowdoubut it doesn't have to be totally stable02:19
Hieronymusidontknowdou: nah, it works02:19
Hieronymusidontknowdou: I like it02:19
ChongoPanzerboy: probably not, because i tried plugging it in to my old thinkpad when i was trying out ubuntu 4.10 and it didn't work then either02:19
Panzerboympmc: it's a kde program though02:19
idontknowdouok how do I upgrade?02:19
mpmcI'm in KDE02:19
cantrel29hello, does anyone know how to fix playback of my ipod in rythmbox. I get this message: file:///media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music/F02/TJTR.m4a when i try and play a tune.02:19
idontknowdouwithout losing my data?02:19
idontknowdouI dont want to do a reinstall I want to upgrade02:19
Hieronymusidontknowdou: are you _absolutely_ sure you want to?02:19
mpmcquanta has synax highlighting?02:20
idontknowdouyes02:20
ChongoPanzerboy: what does it say is the problem?02:20
Hieronymusidontknowdou: you can still run into troubles02:20
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idontknowdoutake my chances02:20
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cantrel29sorry: Could not open vfs file "file:///media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music/F02/TJTR.m4a" for reading.02:20
ed1tSeveas, wats the command to list all the partitions? uname -l ?02:20
ed1tor something02:20
mdeboerI am making an Ubuntu (hoary) based LiveCD. It all works fine, until I try to use my custom kernel. Anyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?02:20
Hieronymusyou'll have to fix them yourself, idontknowdou02:20
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idontknowdoucan you up upgrade after you upgrade?02:20
kroldenIs it possible to get an up-to-date system using an outdated CD?  Or do I have to download a new iso?02:20
Panzerboympmc: then try sudo apt-get install quanta02:20
mdeboerI am making an Ubuntu (hoary) based LiveCD. It all works fine, until I try to use my custom kernel. Anyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?02:20
idontknowdouor un upgrade02:20
cantrel29i assume this is a permissons problem02:21
thoreauputiced1t: fdisk -l02:21
Hieronymusidontknowdou: edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (with sudo) and change hoary into breezy02:21
PanzerboyChongo: i am not sure, to me it looks like a hw error02:21
Hieronymusidontknowdou: downgrade will not be easy02:21
idontknowdouok02:21
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PanzerboyChongo: the only think i can tell you is that you should run some diagnostic software on it02:21
PanzerboyChongo: scandisk02:21
ChongoPanzerboy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38714&highlight=external+hard+drive02:21
thoreauputiced1t: prepend sudo02:21
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PanzerboyChongo: it seems like a bug then02:23
ed1tThis filesystem will be automatically checked every 37 mounts or02:23
ed1t180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.02:23
ed1twats this?02:23
androiddoes anyone use the mozilla-mplayer?02:24
Hieronymusidontknowdou: have you done that yet?02:24
kroldened1t: it says it will run a check on the filesystem every 37 mounts or in 180 days02:24
thoreauputiced1t: fsck runs every 37 mounts by default02:24
PanzerboyChongo: all i can tell you is that mine works ... sorry :)02:24
ed1too k02:24
ChongoPanzerboy: do you have a lacie d2?02:24
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idontknowdouI am in Synaptic02:25
idontknowdoui don't know where do it?02:25
Chongoliable: do you have any idea about what this says: http://pastebin.com/311137?02:25
idontknowdouwhere do I get the new repository addresses?02:25
PanzerboyChongo: it was even mounted in /media/usbdisk automagically02:25
PanzerboyChongo: what is that02:25
Panzerboy?02:25
idontknowdouor do I just chance the distro from hoary to breezy?02:25
Hieronymusidontknowdou: if you have, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (without quotes). If it gives you errors, do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (without quotes; the -f will _force_ it)02:25
thoreauputic!repositories02:25
ubotuI guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:25
Hieronymusidontknowdou: just change hoary into breezy02:25
raven3x7Panzerboy thanks anyway. will try xine02:25
PanzerboyChongo: in the thread you pasted from ubuntu forums it seems that it is a bug02:25
idontknowdouok02:25
Panzerboyraven3x7: or try vlc :)02:26
mpmcI'm gonna create an MSN BOT on linux :)02:26
Panzerboyraven3x7: i heard it's very good02:26
Panzerboy!info vlc02:26
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB02:26
kroldenPanzerboy: vlc is a bit unstable to my liking02:26
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raven3x7Panzerboy yeah i forgot about that.. i use it on windows duh02:27
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Panzerboykrolden: i must admit i've only used it once02:27
Panzerboykrolden: my mplayer works, fortunately02:27
Panzerboybah, i am spending way too much time on this channel :)02:27
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kroldenPanzerboy: mplayer is my fav as well.  xine isn't bad either02:27
Panzerboykrolden: never used xine02:28
raven3x7anyone ever tried ogle?02:28
Panzerboyraven3x7: tried it02:28
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ChongoPanzerboy: thanks for all the help dude! i'll post something on the forums, do you think anyone will be able to fix the bug?02:28
Panzerboyit's for dvd's02:28
kroldenraven3x7: me too, but didn't really like it02:28
HieronymusChongo: report it if it isn't already02:28
Hieronymus!bug02:28
ubotubug is probably to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages02:28
PanzerboyChongo: mayne in the newer kernels it's fixed already :)02:28
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PanzerboyChongo: but it is good to report the bug02:29
ChongoPanzerboy: where do i report it?02:29
Hieronymus!bug02:29
ubotu[bug]  to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages02:29
Panzerboysee !bug :)02:29
Chongooh02:29
Panzerboyi guess it's bugzilla02:29
Panzerboydo an uname -a02:29
Chongoand what do i call it? what kind of bug is it?02:29
Panzerboyand report it against the kernel02:29
Panzerboyi _guess_ it's a kernel issue02:29
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Panzerboyput also there in the report the dmesg and /var/log/messages output02:30
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ed1thow do i mount a fat32 drive?02:30
Chongodid i start the dmesg output in the right place?02:30
ed1tand ext302:30
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mr_saltHello - My DVD playback is still a bit out of sync despite my best efforts EG setting the DMA and updating /etc/modules - any ideas?02:31
PanzerboyChongo: what kernel are you running?02:31
PanzerboyChongo: paste here the output of uname -a02:31
Panzerboy!kernel02:31
ethicsed1t, man mount02:31
thoreauputiced1t: sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/foo /mount/point02:31
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thoreauputiced1t: vfat for fat3202:32
sektorhey02:32
ChongoPanzerboy: Linux Achilleus 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:32
PanzerboyChongo: i see that 2.6.11-1 is out02:32
sektorthe pdf viewers in my ubuntu are of poor quality02:32
PanzerboyChongo: maybe it fixes your problem02:32
sektoranyone know why?02:32
ChongoPanzerboy: how do i get that?02:33
thoreauputicPanzerboy: 2.6.11 is buggy in Ubuntu02:33
othernoobPanzerboy: 2.6.11 isn't a good choice on ubuntu02:33
Panzerboyoh, then listen to these guys :)02:33
thoreauputicChongo: don't use 2.6.1102:33
ethicsthe pdf format is a convuluted mess02:33
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ethicssee version 5-7 in 8 months...makes it tough02:34
Chongohmmm02:34
Aragorn_Guardianhi all02:34
mr_saltHello - can anyone please help with my DVD output, it's very out of sync despite me setting the DMA02:34
mr_saltI am using xine02:34
Aragorn_Guardiansecond week after ubuntized... 8)02:34
PanzerboyAragorn_Guardian: good :)02:34
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sektoris adobe available for linux?02:35
sektorand will that solve the problem?02:35
sektorthe pdf viewer of adobe that is02:35
Panzerboysektor: it is02:35
kroldensektor: acroread02:35
Panzerboyacroread02:35
sektortnx02:36
sektorgonna try that02:36
sektorpfd files look crappy with xpdf02:36
ethicsmr_salt, possibly try a different engine...xine or mplayer maybee for 2 different02:36
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ChongoPanzerboy: what were those vfat things that i loaded, and do i need to get rid of them?02:36
Panzerboysektor: with acroread they should look fine02:36
mr_saltethics: mplayer just crashes all the time for me02:36
ethicssektor, yeah there is at adobe's site....no idea i use xpdf and most of them are useable02:36
PanzerboyChongo: it was the kernel module needed for mounting the partition02:37
PanzerboyChongo: you can leave it there, it's not a problem02:37
mr_saltsektor: it's bot about how they look but how they print!02:37
sektorethics: i don't settle for usable ;)02:37
kroldensektor: make sure you get version 7, cuz 5 does allow you to use the scroll wheel02:37
PanzerboyChongo: if you really want to get rid of it, you can try sudo rmmod vfat02:37
sektormr_salt: i read a lot on pc, so it is about how they look02:37
sektortnx02:37
ethicsmr_salt, you will find it's probably not sure what options to use....mplayer lines can be rather long02:37
ethicssektor, hehe i dont use many so i dont mind much02:38
sektor:)02:38
ChongoPanzerboy: ok, would it try and load it all the time otherwise? / i've noticed that in the media folder there's a subfolder called usbdisk02:38
mr_saltethics: OK I will give it another go - do you find the version of mplayer that comes with Hoary worked out of the box?02:38
PanzerboyChongo: it should load only when you try to mount a fat32 partition02:38
mr_saltethics: It crashes when i play a DVD02:38
kroldenIs breezy useable or considered too unstable (/me is a gentoo user)02:38
PanzerboyChongo: yeah, the mount point is there02:38
ethicssektor also i have vmware running on my server for exchange so i have a windows client if needbe02:39
thoreauputickrolden: /topic02:39
Panzerboykrolden: if you really want to use breezy, you should subscribe to the devel list02:39
sektorethics, i have both a windows and a linux pc running here02:39
mpmcThe Arts sound engine seems to make a cracking noise while plating mp3 files the gstreamer engine is perfect ;)02:39
ethicsmr_salt, im debian atm migrating one desktop to hoary atm...trying a scary crossgrade hehe02:39
Panzerboykrolden: there are lots of breezy issues discussed02:39
sektorbut it's a matter of principle :)02:39
kroldenthoreauputic: ok, thx :)02:39
ethicsmr_salt, your using xine atm?02:40
ethicssektor, si you could get iver it hehe02:40
mpmcAmarok.. Rocks :)02:40
mr_saltethics: yeah02:40
mpmcWhat plays do you all use?02:40
kroldenmpmc: until you try mpd02:40
mpmcmpd?02:40
ethicsmpmc, it a bit heavy but nice when web tagging works 8)02:40
kroldenmpmc: musicpd02:41
sektorethics, i'm trying to learn how to work with linux, would be pointless if i started working on a windows pc everytime i have a problem :)02:41
mpmcok02:41
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kroldenmpmc: http://www.musicpd.org/02:41
idontknowdouok I am upgrading to breezy now02:41
mdeboerAnyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?02:41
ethicsmr_salt, perhaps ogle?  i think thats another dvd one02:41
thoreauputicmpmc:  mpg321 /path/to/music/*   *grin*02:41
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ethicsmr_salt, vlc maybee...just to find out whats going on ie isolated to one or maybe a lib issue etc02:41
mr_saltehics: so is xine not that good?02:41
Panzerboyok, gotta do some work also today :)02:42
Panzerboyso see you all later :)02:42
thoreauputicmr_salt: I use xine and it works well02:42
kroldencya02:42
sektorc u02:42
sektorwe feel ur pain panzerboy :P02:42
mpmcMusicpd.. is a console app.. no GUI.02:42
mpmc:'(02:42
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mpmcnoobie here ;)02:42
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mr_saltthoreauputic: and yuo never had any trouble setting it up?02:42
ethicssektor, hehe  true but then as i say i dont use em much so if it shows me the content im happy02:42
kroldenmpmc: it's a server with many front-ends02:42
sektorgotta reach for the skies ethics :P02:43
thoreauputicmr_salt: well, I installed w32codecs etc, and I use dmix not esd...02:43
mpmcok02:43
kroldenmpmc: I'm particulary fond of the ncmpc front-end (ncurses)02:43
ethicsmr_salt, i use it but for instance some thing jump in on but not the other depending on codec etc....02:43
ethicsmr_salt, xine mostly works great02:43
ethicsmr_salt, i think mplayer is a bit more robust on crappy encodes but then it may jusst filter less hehe02:44
mpmcok02:44
ethicssektor, sometime life at the top feels lonely hehe02:44
sektorlol ethics02:44
sektordeep ;)02:44
mr_saltthoreauputic: i shouldn't need codecs for playing DVDs should I?02:44
ethicssektor, in other news im trying to get midi working on linux hehe now thats something id use heheh  so its more about what i need hehe02:45
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thoreauputicmr_salt: you might need libdvdcss2 for DVD02:45
sektorgood luck with that ethics02:45
ethicssektor, im close just trying to figure out  how the hell jack works...02:45
sektorethics, my experience with linux and sound are horrifying02:45
sektormy linux pc doesn't even have speakers attached :P02:46
ethicssektor, although it works in a virtual machine which impressed me hehe02:46
aioethics - does jack use transcode?02:46
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ethicssektor, took me a while to get alsa figured and dmix but i think i now know enough to assist others hehe02:46
sektorethics, "sudo apt-get install acroread" should do the trick, right?02:47
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ethicssektor ill find out soon enough hehe02:47
mr_saltthoreauputic: I'n pretty sure I have that one02:47
ed1t/dev/sda6                       ext3    defaults        0       002:47
ed1tis this right line to add in fstab?02:47
sektorethics, you probably will :), the problem with my previous linux pc was the fact that it had an onboard sound card02:47
mr_saltthoreauputic: damn why do I get all the unsolvable stuff!?02:47
ethicsaio, nah jack is some sort of sound server which can handle midi inputs etc...im getting cues to it all atm02:47
hnHi - there - Im looking for a PCMCIA card for my notebook which should be supported by the current Ubuntu as it is.02:47
ethicssektor, via yeah...they are a headache02:48
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thoreauputicethics: timidity is fairly easy to set up if you just want to play midis - although it can also be used with rosegarden etc as a "server"02:48
mr_salthn: wireless?02:48
idontknowdougood got this distro upgrade is taking forever02:48
idontknowdouLOL02:48
cafuegoMuahaha!02:48
hnyes WLAN - sorry02:48
aioethics darn...i'm trying to get a dvd ripper installed and working.....02:48
ethicssektor, nah for the adobe one they have an installer thing on their website02:48
sektorethics, k tnx, i'll go look there02:48
aiodvdrip requires transcode which requires something else which conflicts with other crap i got installed....02:49
fdrhello... what is the ubuntu way to convert a text file from unix line terminators to msdos terminators? Debian had the very nice unix2dos, if I remember correctly... THANK YOU! :-)02:49
sektorethics, i really like synaptic and apt though, makes linux manageble for noobs like me02:49
mr_salthn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards02:49
cafuegofdr: ubuntu has that too too.02:49
cafuego!find unix2dos02:49
ethicsthoreauputic, yeah i have rosegarden installed in ettch atm where im fiddling but its just starting atm hehe im reading a bit first02:49
sektorethics, i know how to install stuff, just never know where to install to02:49
ethicssektor,  i agree   apt is the best02:50
cafuegofdr: apt-get install sysutils02:50
aiofdr check out sysutils02:50
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ethicssektor hehe apt-cache and the google some names for info etc02:50
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fdrcafuego, aio : ok thanks, i'll install that :-)02:51
ethicsor hit a decent channel and ask for shortlists...most will give a couple etc02:51
idontknowdouwill breezy badger effect my kubuntu?02:51
cafuegoidontknowdou: Yes. Don't use it.02:51
sektorman, women are a drag, wanted to do some stuff on my computer but i somehow ended up with meeting this girl in half an hour02:51
aioidontknowdou the topic page says don't use it....darnit02:51
sektorgrmbl02:51
cafuegoidontknowdou: If you need to ask, Breezy is not for you. it *will* break.02:52
sektorethics, seems like i gotta go :) tnx for the help02:52
aiosektor yeah - you've got a bad life02:52
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ed1tanybody know a working repository mirror?02:52
sektoraio she's cute though, makes up for something :p02:52
ethicssektor, np matey02:52
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ed1ti tried us.archive.ubuntu.com and it02:52
aiosektor :-)02:52
sektorgreetz y'all02:52
nalioth_zZzed1t: take the us. out of your sources.list02:53
ed1tnalioth_zZz, archive.ubuntu.com doesnt work either02:53
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ed1tweird...it worked now02:54
ethicsed1t, im downloading fro archive atm...it works...you suck02:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYUFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist.02:54
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ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O02:54
ethics8)02:54
cafuegoed1t: You probably got the other one; archive.ubuntu.com is two machines02:54
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mr_saltDo you need codecs for playing VCDs ?02:56
ethicsmr_salt, yeah some are divx/xvids or soething now02:56
cafuegoed1t: a VCD is MPEG1 by specification.02:57
mr_saltethics: this is an OLD VCD though - dunno why it wont play02:57
ethicsmr_salt, some are stil mpg tho ...depends on how trickd oout the pirate was02:57
cafuegoethics even02:57
ed1thuh02:57
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[koji] ethics: you assume that all vcd's are made by pirates :P02:58
ethicsmr_salt, well the old early ninetys porn were mpeg 1 and indeo i think.02:58
cafuegoif it's DivX it's not a VCD.02:58
ethicsno that they are porn or pirates hehe02:58
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cafuegoif it's an SVCD, it's MPEG2 (like a DVD)02:58
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ethicscafuego, yeah but they do some pretty fancy svcds etc with it i belive or some version of it02:59
martiganmust be away to enable remote desktop without using the gui.. still searching ;)02:59
ethicscafuego, may be special autoruns etc tho never looked much02:59
cafuegomartigan: Just run vncserver02:59
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martigancafuego,  im logging in trough telnet03:00
nalioth_zZzmartigan: ewww don't do that03:00
martiganhehe03:00
nalioth_zZzmartigan: use ssh03:00
cafuegomartigan: Let's start from the beginning; what are you trying to accomplish?03:00
ed1tdoes anybody know if i can use ubuntu as a host system to build linux from scratch?03:00
nalioth_zZzed1t: you surely may03:00
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ed1tcool03:01
martiganremote desktop connection, i did get it working nicely but i disabled the option into gnome on remote ;)03:01
thoreauputiced1t: as far as I know, you can use any linux distro - install build-essential for compilers etc03:01
martiganand dont see awya to enable it trough telnet somehow (only way i can connect to the box now )03:01
cafuego!10 million dollar question03:01
ubotuI don't know, cafuego03:01
cafuegomartigan: You want to tunnel X?03:02
ed1tthoreauputic, i got gcc installed? do i need anything else?03:02
martiganyeah i think so ;)03:02
cafuegomartigan: Then ssh is the way to go. telnet can't do it.03:02
naliothed1t: install "build-essential"03:02
thoreauputiced1t: yes - install build-essential for other stuff like make03:02
ed1tk03:02
martigank let me try, ill get back here cafuego03:02
mr_saltDoes anyone know how I can eject my CD drives by just pressing phyically ejecting them rather than right clicking?03:03
ed1tdone....thx guys03:03
cafuegomartigan: Install ssh; enable X11Forwarding, restart ssh server, ssh -C -X remotebox; mozilla03:03
cafuego!10 million dollar question03:03
ubotuThe 10 million dollar question is: But why would you bother?03:03
martiganthx ill look into it!03:03
naliothmartigan: there are numerous howtos via google on ssh tunneling03:03
mpmcwhere can I get themes for ubuntu?03:03
cafuegomartigan: it's pretty straightforward.03:03
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thoreauputicmpmc: start with ' sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras ` , and check out gnome-look.org03:04
naliothmpmc: www.deviantart.com, www.gnome-look.org, others03:04
ben_underscoremr salt - have you tried "eject /cdrom"03:04
mpmcfor KDE03:05
mr_saltyes that works - but i mean by just pressing the button on the front - i am so used to it!03:05
mpmcI want Themes for KDE03:05
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mpmcI'm not keen on gnome03:05
cafuegompmc: Give #kubuntu a try03:05
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mpmcok03:05
naliothmpmc: kde-look.org, www.devianatart.com03:06
mr_saltWhat's the relation between ubuntu and kubuntu?03:06
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naliothmr_salt: kde and gnome03:06
cafuegomr_salt: Different colour, basically.03:06
thoreauputicmr_salt: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde03:06
cafuegoOne is brown, the other blue.03:06
mr_saltthanks!03:06
pazuhow do i intall ubuntu if i have no cd-rom? is it possible to install through xp itself?03:06
thoreauputiccafuego: heresy! *grin*03:06
alphaanyone here blessed with a ati 320m?03:06
[koji] mr_salt: same cremen filling on the inside03:06
cafuegoalpha: Let me check...03:07
mr_salt[koji] : delicious!03:07
[koji] hehe03:07
alphaopengl works but it blinks like crazy03:07
thoreauputicpazu: sure, Bill Gates supplies a linux installer by default because he loves us ;)03:07
cafuego0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U103:08
cafuegowe'll take that as a "yes"03:08
alphasame card03:08
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alphayou get 3d acc working well?03:08
cafuegoalpha: Running fine here; around 1000 fps in glxgears03:08
alphai had it working in gentoo but i just switched03:08
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cafuegoThis is a bog-standard Hoary setup03:09
alphaand i got around 1000 fps in gentoo03:09
pazuthoreauputic, what do u mean? how to do it?03:09
ethicspazu you can do a floppy install03:09
thoreauputicpazu: erm... It was a little joke03:09
nikkia1000fps is a touch low for glxgears to be honest03:09
mr_saltMy sound is much quieter in ubuntu that it was in windows yet my ATI Rage 128 card seems to have been detected perfectly03:09
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nikkiai get 6900fps03:10
alphawhat card?03:10
nikkia6600GT03:10
ethicspazu but i never have but it is ppossible03:10
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alphano wonder03:10
Nermalnikkia, can you complete all the levels ?03:10
nikkiaalpha, 1000 is still low tho03:10
cafuegonikkia: Um, this is a laptop integrated chipset, mate.03:10
nikkiaalpha, i used to get ~600fps on my Rage12803:10
pazui think i shoulg have cd-rom03:10
pazushould03:10
alphanikkia, its a hobbled 7500 with shared ram03:10
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ethicsmr_salt there are gain settings etc you could set...see advances sound on linx or somehing in goole..i fond a page once..03:11
cafuegoThe 5700 TDH gets far more03:11
mr_saltSorry - Rage is obviously my video card!03:11
alphaand i can't even use the binary ati drivers03:11
mr_saltethics: thanks again!03:11
cafuegoalpha: No, the open ones ought to work just fine (as in: they do here)03:11
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cafuegoalpha: Anything odd like warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?03:11
alphacafuero, yeah they work but not well03:11
ethicsmr_salt, np03:12
martigancafuego,  thx man problems are solved :)03:12
cafuegoalpha: I could plonk my xorg.conf online for you if you thought it might help...03:12
cafuegomartigan: enjoy :-)03:12
alphathat would be nice03:13
martigan:D03:13
cafuegoalpha: ok, gimme a sec03:13
alphacafuego, what kernal do you use03:13
cafuegoalpha: self-cimpiled 2.6.13-rc203:14
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cafuegoalpha: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/xorg.conf03:14
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alphacafuego, im using the stock amd k7 one03:14
idontknowdouIS IT possible to abort a dist-upgrade that is in progress?03:15
alphai should mess with it03:15
idontknowdouif it is still donwloading?03:15
mr_saltanyone know how I get like task bar items to groupos together like in XP?03:15
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cafuego^issues03:15
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luis_hi...anyboy can tell me how can i install nvu plz?03:15
alphacafuego, seems to scale fine with mine03:15
cafuegoidontknowdou: You can usually ctrl-c them at any time.03:15
cafuegoluis_: apt-get install nvu03:16
ethicsidontknowdou, ctrl c03:16
cafuegoalpha: proll a different laptop03:16
idontknowdousweet03:16
idontknowdouits done03:16
luis_thnx03:16
cafuegoalpha: mine wants acpi hardcoded, not as modules. The mods won't load (odd, but true)03:16
alphacafuego, i have a compaq 217003:16
cafuegoalpha: nx9005 here03:16
alphawith a 220003:16
cafuego2000+ for me03:16
alphasame laptops03:16
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aiomr_salt right click on your window list on your toolbar (assume it's your bottom) and select your preference of "Window Grouping"03:17
cafuegoalpha: Apparenty it depends on the cpu (even differs from batch to batch)03:17
alphacafuego, go get the news bios rom for it, it fixes alot of issues with the video and scaling03:17
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alphacafuego, with the newest bios i can allocate 128mb of ram and it sites happy at 533mhz when its not doing anything03:18
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cafuegoalpha: yes, mine does that (but only with hardcoded acpi)03:18
mr_saltaio: I can't believe I never saw that before! Thanks :)03:18
cafuegoalpha: Scales very happily03:18
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ben_underscoreaio: what do you do?03:18
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aioben_underscore what do you mean?03:18
alphacafuego,  have you upgraded the bios?03:19
alphathen tried?03:19
ShereiHello everyone03:19
mr_saltI also can't believe I never came on this group before! I'm on my 5th install of ubuntu is 2 weeks!03:19
cafuegoalpha: I'm pretty sure I have the lasy bios anyway; there hasn't been a fresh one for over a year.03:19
cafuegos/lasy/last/03:19
ben_underscoreaio: to get the grouping?03:19
alphamines about 6months old03:19
cafuegoSherei: good evening03:19
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mr_saltben_underscore: from aio: right click on your window list on your toolbar (assume it's your bottom) and select your preference of "Window Grouping"03:19
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alphacafuego, my first motherboard died and they put one ment for your model in mine giving me a firewire port03:20
Shereiis there a protocal for asking a question?  or do we just jump right in?03:20
aioben_underscore then you select either "Never group windows"...etc....03:20
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aioSherei just jump in03:20
tdelaHow do i install PHP5 with apt even if its not in the apt-cache search results, do i need to add a repository in my sources.list for it?03:20
ben_underscoreah der. tx03:20
aioSherei but make sure your request is TCP compliant03:20
tdelaif so, where can i find the repo for this03:20
cafuegoalpha: ahaa :-)03:21
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ShereiI have a voodoo 3 video card that I can not get out of 640X480...  I just installed version 5.04 and am not much of a linux user (yet)03:21
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alphacafuego, i know in windowsxp before i changed the bios it didn't like changing freqs at all now it'll do so and run much cooler, internal diode shows 42*c03:22
cafuegoalpha: Yeah, I'm on 1.6003:22
NameeaterI have installed a driver for my printer which came as a debian package, but I do not have lpr installed as it needs, so I apt-get install lpr and it complains about the printer driver, so I dpkg -r driver but it won't install, how can I go about uninstalling it?03:22
mostyi got a message in gnome saying (paraphrasing) "X's keymap differs from gnome's, which do you want to use?" - can anyone tell me how i can change this setting? i can't find it anywhere03:22
mr_saltHow can i find out the chipset of my printer - Olivetti have been no help at all - I know it is HP03:22
alphacafuego, did yours come with a docking port?03:23
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mostysherei, which driver are you using?03:24
cafuegoalpha: yeah, on the bottom, near the rear.03:24
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naliothSherei: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:24
ShereiNot sure...  How can I tell?03:24
mostytdela, google?03:24
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alphacafuego, mine didn't have the hole but it the connector was on the motherboard so i took my dremel to it03:24
tdelagot it.03:24
alpha$60 later on ebay and i had a docking station03:25
ShereiThanx Nalioth looking at that now03:25
cafuegoalpha: <heh>03:25
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cafuegoI'll use the amd64 when I'm at my desk03:26
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Nameeateranyone got any ideas on my problem? :|03:26
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alphacafuego, i wanted it so i didn't have to put so much wear on the power connector and it makes it run cooler as its off the ground a little03:26
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cafuegoalpha: i's winter, a warm lap is nice ;-)03:27
kevin__hi everybody03:27
ethicsnameater there are force options you could try ...not sure which tho you would try03:27
alphacafuego, yeah but 60* is testical melting03:27
cafuegoalpha: Oh, it's not that hot03:27
kevin__i have just installed ubuntu and have some questions can somebody help me plz?03:27
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cafuegokevin__: just ask away03:28
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kevin__i would like to install amsn, i have downloaded the tar.gz file and uncompressed it03:28
cyphasekevin__, use synaptic03:28
mostykevin__, sure you don't want to use gaim instead?03:28
kevin__i can open amsn, but how do you install the program?03:29
cafuegokevin__: 'apt-get nstall amsn' should do, too.03:29
tdelainstall03:29
Chillou1hi i have installed "powertweak" via synaptic. but i dont know i can access it. can anyone help me with that?03:29
thoreauputickevin__: don't do that - enable universe and install amsn03:29
kevin__i have tried the apt-get install but it doesn't work03:29
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cafuegoalpha: Actually, which lm-sensors chip does the box have?03:29
thoreauputickevin__: you need to enable the universe repo03:30
thoreauputic!repos03:30
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:30
thoreauputickevin__: ^^^03:30
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bjournehow do you become root in ubuntu?03:30
cafuegokevin__: "Doesn't work" is not an error message we can do much with.03:30
Nameeaterok how about this, dpkg -i <file> and it didn't install properly, I can't remove it with dkpg -r but I have removed it by hand, how can I get apt/dpkg to stop thinking it exsists?03:30
nalioth!sudo03:30
cafuegobjourne: 'sudo -s'03:30
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:30
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naliothbjourne: there is no 'root'03:30
bjournewhen i installed ubuntu, i didn't get a chance to set a root password03:30
ethicsbjourne, you dont you sudu alot03:31
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thoreauputicnalioth: yes there is - just no password for root03:31
alphacafuego, im not sure it just seems to work03:31
cafuegobjourne: That's correct. Check the wiki url, it explains it all.03:31
mr_saltAnyone know how you can find out the chipset of your hardware if it is not obvious?03:31
cafuegoalpha: Can you check via 'lsmod' to see which one's loaded?03:31
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alphacafuego, i used some generic centrino monitor and it worked03:31
bjourneok sudo -s vi says /usr/bin/vi cannot execute binary file03:31
ethicsbjourne, the first user gets sudu rights from there you can do anything03:32
thoreauputicbjourne: just sudo vi03:32
nalioththoreauputic: i'm going along with the party line of "use sudo for all your power needs"03:32
cafuegobjourne: 'sudo vi'03:32
cafuegobjourne: sudo -s just executes a shell03:32
alphacafuego, our xorg.conf is nearly identical03:32
alphaOption"AGPMode" "4"03:32
alphaOption"EnablePageFlip" "True"03:32
alphaOption"AGPFastWrite" "TRue"03:32
alphaOption"CursorShadow"           "True"03:32
alphaOption"CursorShadowAlpha"      "70"03:32
alphaOption"CursorShadowXOffset"    "2"03:32
naliothbjourne: read the rootsudo link above03:32
alphaOption"CursorShadowYOffset"    "2"03:32
ethicsmr_salt lspci maybe03:32
alphaOption"DPMS"03:32
alphacafuego, thats the only difference03:32
thoreauputicnalioth: sure - my point was merely that root "does" exist, but I agree with the party line ;)03:32
cafuegoOoh, cursor shadow!!03:33
Bubbling_Zombiedont do that alpha :< use the pastebin.03:33
Hieronymus!paste03:33
ubotupaste is, like, ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""03:33
alphacafuego,  sorry03:33
bigfoot1Hi everyone, you know when you use google search, the url that follows is easy to decipher. For instance, if you search for ubuntu is cool, you get http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+is+cool. What do you call this kind of url? ANd what's the term that refers to the opposite?03:33
thoreauputicalpha: please read the topic re: pasting03:33
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Chillou1hi i have installed "powertweak" via synaptic. but i dont know i can access it. can anyone help me with that?03:33
ethicsthe captial R made all the difference hehe03:33
mostybigbootay, it's called a "url"03:33
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Hieronymusbigfoot1: probably something with dynamic in it03:34
mostybigbootay, ie there is no special name03:34
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bigfoot1mosty, no, there's a more technical sounding term for it, but i forgot.03:34
Hieronymusthe opposite of dynamic is static03:34
ethicsChillou1, dpkg -L package may offer some lcations it put stuff etc..03:35
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naliothChillou1: have you been to the 'powertweak' website for faq or readmes?03:35
bigfoot1Hieronymus, right. but what do you call a url that's somethnig like: http://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/33300002432903htneo0ce282929b0d2d? This would be the guardster url for when I use this website to view webpages via proxy.03:35
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bigfoot1Hieronymus, what i'm trying to get at is this: the guardster.com url isn't just a simple: www.guardster.com/view?q=www.news.com03:36
Hieronymusbigfoot1: a lame url03:36
kevin__you can set the password by using the command passwd root (in the terminal)03:37
bigfoot1seriously now, Hieronymus .03:37
Hieronymusbigfoot1: no idea03:37
bigfoot1does anybody know?03:37
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thoreauputickevin__: you can, but it's utterly pointless since sudo -s or sudo -i do the same thing03:37
mostybigfoot1, they both look like regular url's to me03:38
alphathen you have to type sudo all the time :)03:38
Chillou1nalioth: well i found a page telling me how to install it. since i installed via synaptic that was no prob. it says there is a GUI for it. but i dont know where and how to start it in gnome (i am absolute noob -sry)03:38
alphaanyone get vmware going in ubunto ?03:38
thoreauputicalpha: if you have to type sudo all the time, you are doing too much admin ;)03:38
naliothChillou1: open a terminal and type "powertweak" and see what happens03:38
bigfoot1mosty, but the google one is decipherable. It's not just numbers and letters. But the guardster one is just a string of numbers and letters. Do you see what I mean?03:38
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alphathoreauputic, meh just setting up a new system03:39
thoreauputicalpha: :)03:39
alphathoreauputic, plus i like fiddling03:39
thoreauputicalpha: ah, that's another issue ;)03:39
Chillou1nalioth: root@defiant-wingman:/home/chillout # powertweak / bash: powertweak: command not found03:39
maggotbrainbigfoot1: i believe it is called a URI, or Unversal Resource Indicator. see:03:39
alphabrb can;t stand this x-chat03:40
bigfoot1maggotbrain, i know of URI03:40
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thoreauputicChillou1: dpkg -L powertweak | grep bin03:40
maggotbrainok. then you got me..03:40
bigfoot1maggotbrain, I'm asking for the more specific terminology. Terms that distinguish the two.03:40
bigfoot1maggotbrain, you have quite a nickname.03:40
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bigfoot18-)03:40
mostybigfoot1, i don't think there is an official term that differentiates between your two cases03:41
Chillou1thoreauputic: did that... no output03:41
carine__Hello03:41
thoreauputicChillou1: is there a man page for powertweak ?03:41
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naliothChillou1: what is the website?03:41
maggotbrainwell a url is basically a class of uri google  'define:uri' might help03:41
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bigfoot1maggotbrain, i know that.03:42
Chillou1there is one for powertweakd03:42
bigfoot1i know url and URI.03:42
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mostybigfoot1, perhaps "human readable" ?03:42
Nameeaterhow can I make ubuntu accept an installed printer?03:43
thoreauputicChillou1: apparently that's a metapackage - have you tried powertweak-gtk ?03:43
Chillou1but i am lost in those command things... synaptic installed a thing powetweak-gtk which is supposed to be a GUi... but i can find that03:43
bigfoot1mosty, i guess that would do. I ask because I don't know how to make Smart URLs in Galeon for those sites that make non-human-readable urls.03:43
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kevin__thx for helping me03:43
mostynameeater: depends what you mean by "accept" and "installed"03:43
bigfoot1any galeon users with a tip?03:43
mostybigfoot1, use that tinyurl website?03:43
alphamuch better kirc is way better then xchat03:43
thoreauputicChillou1: what does dpkg -L powertweak-gtk say?03:44
NameeaterI've installed the driver from the manufacturers website, but its now showing in system/admin/printers, tho I just realised i havn't rebooted since installing it03:44
bigfoot1mosty, no, i'm not looking to making a url shorter.03:44
Nameeaternow/not*03:44
mostybigfoot1, this is a job for the web developer, not the web browser, methinks03:44
Chillou1thoreauputic: what do u mean with tried? i typed powertweak-gtk in the shell. it says command not found03:44
thoreauputicChillou1: try typing  dpkg -L powertweak-gtk   and see what it spits out - look for "bin" files03:45
bigfoot1mosty, maybe. but i beg to differ: Firefox offers this function. Just right click on an empty search box in a website and Voila. You have a smart search. But it's a bit harder with Galeon. Hope you see what i mean.03:45
Chillou1thoreauputic: dpkg -L powertweak-gtk gives me a list of folders03:45
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Chillou1there is /usr/bin &  /usr/bin/gpowertweak03:45
thoreauputicChillou1: right - is there something in /usr/bin ? that would be an executable03:45
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thoreauputictry typing gpowertweak03:46
Chillou1a cool03:46
alphaanyone know a fix so kde's menus aren't all screwy because of gnome?03:46
Chillou1it opens03:46
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Chillou1thoreauputic: ty03:46
mostybigfoot1, i don't understand the feature you're describing...03:46
thoreauputicChillou1: no worries :)03:46
Riddellalpha: what's screwey with them?03:47
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alphaRiddell: the menu is all wrong for kde03:47
cafuegoalpha: short of removing KDE? ;-)03:48
alphai like kde03:48
mostyalpha, "wrong" ?03:48
alphayeah its all gnome ised03:48
mostycan you be a bit more descriptive?03:49
alphai had the same issue with gentoo but there was a fix for it03:49
thoreauputicalpha: erm, you aren't making a lot of sense03:49
alphalike Editors is missing ect...03:49
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alphadoesn't show all the kde apps that normaly show03:49
mostyalpha, are those editors installed?03:49
alphayes03:49
Nameeaterdoes ubuntu not come with g++ by default?03:49
Riddellalpha: I moved editors into utilities03:50
Riddellalpha: which apps don't show?03:50
thoreauputicNameeater: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:50
mostynameeater: apt-get install g++03:50
alphakwrite ect..03:50
Nameeaterthanks :)03:50
thoreauputicmosty: no, see above03:50
Riddellalpha: I set kwrite to hidden in preference to kate03:50
thoreauputicmosty: apt-cache show build-essential03:50
alphaits nothing major just odd03:50
mostyyou don't need all of build-essential just for g++03:51
alphaim jsut too used to stock kde i think03:51
kevin__witch of the following os would you recommend? debian, freebsd or gentoo?03:51
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mostykevin__, i recommend them all03:51
thoreauputicmosty: if you want it to work you do ;)03:51
alphakevin__:  depends on the use really03:51
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kevin__but witch one would you use for a server?03:51
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kevin__for home use03:51
mostythoreauputic, if g++ requires anything, apt-get install g++ should install those03:51
alphakevin__: freebsd for server03:52
mostykevin__, they're all equally capable03:52
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alphadebain for home03:52
lelezzzhi03:52
alphagentoo for home03:52
seliniumhi thoreauputic03:52
strawboathi there03:52
thoreauputicmosty: *cough* try installing gcc by itself and watch what happens when you try to compile something03:52
kevin__the stability is also the same?03:52
ethicslooks like this debian crossover may get hairy hehe03:52
bigfoot1mosty, i don't know what Firefox calls it, but do this and you'll understand: in firefox address bar, enter "google" then a search term.03:52
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strawboati don't trust it03:53
strawboatlike a toolbar03:53
mostybigfoot1, that sends me to a random website (based on a dns lookup of whatever crap i typed)03:54
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bigfoot1mosty, i remembered: in Fx, it's called "Quick Search"03:54
strawboatthe toolbar is evil03:54
seliniumhi all, I have just loaded a fresh install of ubuntu onto my machine, I used to use ubuntuguide.org to continue the set up but I have seen some bad reports from users here. Where else is there a similar webpage I can use that you can recommend?03:54
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tvoselinium: http://wiki.ubuntu.com is recommended03:55
strawboatselinium, try social bookmarks03:55
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mostybigfoot1, that's not a standard firefox feature, must be a plugin03:56
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bigfoot1mosty, check out your bookmars folders for a folder called "quick search". then check out one bookmark's popretries.03:56
ex-parrotI'm genuinley impressed, Wine runs Discworld Noir better than Windows XP03:56
bigfoot1mosty, no. not a plugin. it's standard.03:56
strawboatplugin (heheheheh)03:56
ex-parrotlast time I checked out Wine it barely ran anything.... and now look at it :)03:56
ex-parrotthat is all :P03:56
mostybigfoot1, i have no "quick search" folder in my bookmarks03:56
bigfoot1mosty, ok. let's just forget it.03:57
strawboatI perfer backdoor/virus/adware/spyware plugins03:57
kevin__does anyone know a good howto on router/firewalls? to write iptables yourself?03:58
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strawboatkevin__, nano03:58
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kevin__is the help function that good? :p03:58
mostykevin__, the nat howto at netfilter.org has a good 5 line firewall script03:59
strawboatkevin__, you don't need something like that totally03:59
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seliniumkevin__ i use firestarter to administrate my ip tables.04:00
strawboatkevin__, aye... see you one month later ...04:00
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mpmcDoes anyone know of a good ftp server. that uses mysql for auth and is easy to install.04:01
utnubuso now that I have the Live CD going, does the Install CD come with anything else besides what's on live?04:01
gm78kevin__, guarddog is good for firewalls, gives u more control than firestarter does04:02
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Yvihi :)04:02
gm78kevin__, it is a kde app tho, so it sticks out in gnome04:02
kevin__but what if you only use the non graphical os?04:02
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gm78kevin__, oh, lol, nvm then.....i dont know anything about iptables other than guarddog/firestarter04:02
thoreauputicutnubu: pretty much the same - of course synaptic gives you access to about 16 000 other packages04:02
mpmcI'll take that as a no :P04:02
utnubuthoreauputic, thank you, but that would be no help if I installed it on the machine that's not on the net04:03
cronosh2oHello everybody, someone speak spanish?04:03
cronosh2oHOlaaaaa04:03
thoreauputicutnubu: true enough04:03
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seliniumAlso on my fresh install the 'find tool' on firefox floats on the page, not at the bottom as on my old system? any way of configuring it to the bottom again?04:03
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gm78selinium, it does that when u ctrl+f???04:04
thoreauputiccronosh2o:  /join #ubuntu-es04:04
cronosh2ook04:04
utnubumy other question...just out of curiosity...what's up with not putting emacs and gcc on a Linux distro? And what's with all the gdb programmer's support with *no* compiler???04:05
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: hola, que tal04:05
cronosh2oque has hecho?04:05
Aragorn_Guardianestoy estudiando espanl... 8)04:05
gm78utnubu, they want to keep it light for newbies, they are there on the system, just not installed (lie the debs are already on the harddrive)04:05
gm78*like04:05
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mostyutnubu, it's trivial to install them04:05
cronosh2oque bien, pues hasta ahora te doy un 1004:06
gm78utnubu, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:06
seliniumgm78 yep, it creates a small floating window.04:06
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: aunque no hablo muy bin...04:06
thoreauputicutnubu: you can install build-essential without a net connection IIRC04:06
utnubuah, I see! And light for newbies as in just Gnome for window manager04:06
gm78selinium, thats odd, ive never seen that.....did u happen to carry an old config over from another install?04:06
cronosh2ojajaja, pero vas muy bien. te felicito.04:06
gm78utnubu, yep....granny doesnt normally use a compiler ;)04:06
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Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: soy brasilen...es fcil para nosotros... 8)04:07
gm78utnubu, hell, granny can barely handle a spreadsheet04:07
thoreauputicutnubu: newbies who want KDE have kubuntu install CD instead ;)04:07
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: ?tiene alguna duda?04:07
seliniumgm78 No, this is a fresh install. I am wondering if I have accidently used an old install disc? I though I had destroyed them all ! :) How do I check which version I am using?04:08
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cronosh2oPor su puesto04:08
thoreauputicguys, #ubuntu-es please04:08
Yvihi, does anyone know, how I can disable sit0?04:08
kbrooksheh04:08
gm78selinium, help, about firefox04:08
kbrookscronosh2o, #ubuntu-es04:08
utnubuah, see, I'll just keep this around to test anything I develop, make sure it runs on debs. I'm kind of the anti-granny, you can keep everything and give me gcc, emacs, binutils, TWM, and a few folders, and that's my Linux system!04:08
gm78selinium, or were u talking about which version of ubuntu?04:08
cronosh2oel portugues es una lengua que a los hispanoparlantes tambien nos es un poco mas sencillo hablar.04:08
mostyutnubu, feel free to whine when you can't install them with a single command04:08
kbrookscronosh2o, #ubuntu-es04:08
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Aragorn_Guardian8)04:09
kbrooksi do have a question04:09
seliniumgm78: Ubuntu, I think this must be a version of breezy... Ar*e04:09
Yvihmm, noone know about sit0?04:09
cronosh2oSi mira mi duda es la siguiente, Tengo una board Intel y no tengo sonido en Ubuntu. la board es una D915Gav04:09
gm78selinium, which version of firefox is included?04:09
kbrooksselinium, No swearing.04:09
cronosh2otanks kbrooks04:09
seliniumkbrooks: Sorry04:09
thoreauputiccronosh2o: please, take non-english chat elsewhere - you have been asked several times04:10
gm78kbrooks, that was a swear?04:10
seliniumgm7804:10
gm78selinium04:10
utnubuwell, thanks, all, and I'll keep the disk around...04:10
kbrooksthe question: How can I remove all packages depending on kubuntu-desktop?04:10
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: si...yo voy mirar aqui con un conocido...04:10
seliniumgm78: not breezy, warty.    firefox 0.9.304:10
cronosh2ogracias04:10
kbrooksi have: apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '{print $2}'04:11
kbrooksgm78, yes04:11
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o: ?no hace instalado ubuntu?04:11
kbrooksAragorn_Guardian, #ubuntu-es04:11
mostyis there a source like marillat for hoary?04:11
cronosh2oAcaso hay discriminacion aqu por los hispanos?04:12
kbrookscronosh2o and Aragorn_Guardian: join #ubuntu-es04:12
cronosh2oparace que si04:12
kbrooksmosty, Perhaps.04:12
gm78selinium, ah, makes sense ur using an out of date ubuntu......u dont need to upgrade if u dont want, u can just download firefox 1.0.4 from mozilla.org04:12
seliniumcronosh2o /j ubuntu-es04:12
kbrooksgm78, warty isnt 'out of date'04:13
thoreauputicAragorn_Guardian: cronosh2o this is an english channel and thus you are just being inconsiderate and raising the noise level for others - please stop04:13
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gm78kbrooks, lol, fine then, not the latest and greatest04:13
Aragorn_Guardiancronosh2o, kbrooks : right...the things must be said here in english, for alll understand... right...04:13
kbrooksgm78, you know. warty's firefox is backported from 1.0.404:13
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mostykbrooks, marillat's debs are too new for hoary04:13
gm78kbrooks, security updates are, yes, features, no04:13
Aragorn_Guardiansorry04:13
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cronosh2o(in English is not noise?) ok04:14
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gm78kbrooks, such as the one he was just asking me about04:14
seliniumgm78: I think i will download the latest image and start again. I want this computer to start from a clean build.04:14
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kbrooksAragorn_Guardian, I ask you to leave.04:14
Aragorn_Guardiani am in -es ... sorry...04:14
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kbrooksuh.04:16
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kbrooksapt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '{print $2}' | sudo xargs apt-get remove04:17
kbrooksthats the command, but apt-get aborts04:17
kbrookshow come?04:17
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Kyralwhat are you trying to do?04:18
tjsanyone know anything about ubuntu + global file system?04:18
palliWhat is a global filesystem ?04:18
kbrooksKyral, get the depends of kubuntu-desktop and remove them all04:19
tjsits a redhat project for distributed filesystems04:19
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mostypalli, what is google?04:19
tjsyou can run a single FS on a cluster04:19
Aragorn_Guardiankbrooks: how install sound in a motherboard with integrated sound ?04:19
gm78tjs, centos is a good bet for gfs...i dont think ubuntu has anything for it04:19
Kyralkbrooks, try installing DebFoster04:19
tjsah04:19
gm78Aragorn_Guardian, what chipset?04:19
tjsgm78: thanks :)04:19
thoreauputickbrooks: that would remove things like x-window-system-core as well - is that what you want?04:20
gm78tjs, welcome. centos is RHEL minus Red Hat trademarks04:20
tjsheh04:20
tjscool04:20
Aragorn_Guardianintel D915GAV04:20
kbrooksthoreauputic, i'd just replace them by reinstalling ubuntu-desktop04:20
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thoreauputickbrooks: right - fair enough04:20
pallimosty: Sorry, stupid question.04:20
kbrooksDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? Abort.04:20
kbrooksWhy?04:21
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gm78tjs, yeah. doesnt come with support obviously nor yum....pretty much all of the good things to do with RHEL, it is binary compatable tho, RPMS for RHEL will install fine on CentOS04:21
Whistlerdoes ubuntu support isa network cards?04:21
thoreauputickbrooks: might be easier to use deborphan or similar?04:21
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gm78tjs, i mean it doesnt come with red hat network, it uses yum damn typos04:21
tjsah04:21
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tjsIm unfamiliar with RH since about 8.004:21
Aragorn_Guardiankbrooks: intel D915GAV04:22
mostyWhistler, that's a kernel thing- any dist can support isa network cards04:22
gm78tjs, well RHEL is there expensive supported enterprise distro. CentOS just took their Source RPMS and recompiled them while putting their own logos in04:22
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coobrawhy do my locales dont work :/04:22
tjsall of our software is targeted to ubuntu (package wise) and we are setting up a large hosting environment for our application, I want to use a distributed FS for the data04:22
coobra04:22
coobra:/04:22
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tjssome sort of NAS04:22
kbrookstjs, nfs can be defined as a 'distributed' FS04:22
gm78tjs, well red hat hosts development for gfs, i think u can grab the source and a kernel module source code04:23
kbrooksSo can smbfs04:23
seliniumon boot-up, my home machine reported a duplicate error in the boot block. Is there anyway of saving this machine?04:23
tjsgm78: I might try that out04:23
gm78kbrooks, i thin gfs is more suited to clusters if im not mistken04:23
Whistlerok thx04:23
gm78tjs, cant guarantee it will even work on ubuntu tho, u might have to hack it if u know C (i dont lol :P) so i cant help u there04:24
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Bubbling_Zombiesomebody who knows an rss agregator for gnome who can import xml files generated by akregator04:24
tjsthanks04:24
kbrooksgm78, you know04:24
kbrookstjs, wait04:24
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tjskbrooks, sup?04:24
gm78kbrooks, hmmm?04:25
kroldenBubbling_Zombie: I think liferea can, not sure though04:25
kbrookstjs, a kernel module works on kernels04:25
tjsyes04:25
kbrookson the*04:25
Bubbling_Zombiethanks krolden , i'll try it out.04:25
kbrooksyou dont have to hack it04:25
kbrooksit'll just work04:25
gm78kbrooks, yes, but red hat heavily modifies their kernels, i have had problems witht hem before04:25
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gm78kbrooks, im not saying he will, im just saying from past experience it might not work well, i had to compile my own kernel on a CentOS system once it was causing so much trouble....altho im not sure if they did that again with RHEL 4, i know RHEL 3 was pretty bad04:27
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kbrooksgm78, ubuntu != rh04:32
dylan_is it true that there are really no viruses for linux?04:32
kbrooksyup04:32
dylan_how?04:32
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kroldenanyone ever tried love-sources on ubuntu?04:32
kbrookser, what do you mean by 'how'?04:33
dylan_i heard there were a lot of viruses04:33
kbrooksdylan_, for linux?04:33
dylan_right04:33
cyphasedylan_, there are a few (you can count them on 2 hands), but they can't spread really04:33
kbrooksdylan_, 'a lot' is not true04:33
Seveasdylan_, it would be hard to infect a linux computer, but it's possible04:33
Seveasand there are linux viruses04:33
phzidylan_: the linux kernel evolves so fast, and linux is so deregulated, that there are basically no viruses for linux04:33
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dylan_thanks!04:33
cyphasedylan_, it's very hard for a virus to attack a Linux computer04:33
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Seveasphzi, that's a non-argument...04:33
cyphasethat usually takes a real erson04:34
kbrooksdylan_, linux is multiuser and monothlic04:34
Seveasviruses rarely target the kernel...04:34
cyphasethat would be very hard04:34
phziviruses exploit holes in the OS to infect computers04:34
dylan_why can't i install firefox 1.0.4 via the Add/Remove Programs application?04:34
cyphaseattacking the kernel04:34
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phzisince linux is so actively changing, most security holes are fixed quickly04:34
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Seveasphzi, holes in the security system you mean04:34
kbrooksdylan_, because warty gets NO programs04:34
phzithat's what I mean04:34
kbrooksdylan_, it's frozen.04:34
Seveasphzi, linux is just the kernel ;)04:34
phziI know Seveas04:35
Seveasbut I get the point :)04:35
kbrooksSeveas, true04:35
phzithat's what I'm talking about tho04:35
dylan_why can't i install firefox 1.0.4 via the Add/Remove Programs application?04:35
seliniumon boot-up, my home machine reported a duplicate error in the boot block. Is there anyway of saving this machine?04:35
Seveasdylan_, you already have it04:35
dylan_im stuck with 1.0.2, no Seveas04:35
Seveasit's just called 1.0.2 on ubuntu04:35
kbrooksdylan_, because you have it04:35
dylan_oh thanks i didnt know04:35
Seveasbut it has all 1.0.4 security patches04:35
Bubbling_Zombiewhoever helped me with that agregator thing - it imported perfectly. Thanks (i'm not that good @ nicknames ^-^)04:35
dylan_but whenever i go to install extensions, i get the error message thati  need to install 1.0.404:35
kroldenBubbling_Zombie: *waves*04:35
Bubbling_Zombiethanks o/04:36
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Seveasdylan_: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.404:36
_root_*04:36
kbrooksgtg04:36
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dylan_ok thanks04:36
phzidylan_: you upgrade thru apt-get?04:36
phzior synaptic package manager04:36
kbrooksphzi, dude04:36
phziHoary comes with 1.02 of firefox does it not?04:36
ryanhey guys, I seem to be getting a lot of MD5Sum mismatches lately.. is anyone else having this problem?04:36
dylan_sweet that worked!04:36
dylan_thanks!04:36
Seveasphzi, read back please :)04:37
SeveasI just explained it04:37
Seveasryan, us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to have problems again04:37
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phziI did, I'm just pointing out that there is also an apt-get update package04:37
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Seveasphzi, only from backports04:37
Seveasand this particular package is evil04:37
Seveas(in backports)04:37
phziI'm running it04:37
ryanSeveas is there another repos I can replace it with?04:38
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dylan_which is faster:  epiphany or firefox?04:39
Seveasryan, just use archive.ubuntu.com04:39
Seveasdylan_, epiphany04:39
ryanok04:39
dylan_Seveas_, are there extensions for epiphany?04:39
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Seveasdylan_, ENOIDEA04:39
seliniumSeveas: You once said about ubuntuguide.org that it wasn't very informative, and you mentioned an alternative.. Can you remember what page?04:40
Seveasselinium, wiki.ubuntu.com04:40
Bubbling_Zombiehey, i'm starting to like this gnome thing. Imagine that.04:40
Seveas:004:40
WhistlerBubbling_Zombie i think so too04:41
Whistler:)04:41
Seveasgnome is good :)04:41
dylan_man im sick of BeatrIX linux...has anyone ever tried that?04:41
seliniumSeveas: is there a particular section? I have been looing for some time... :)04:41
thoreauputicdylan_: apt-cache show epiphany-extensions04:41
Bubbling_Zombiegnome on the laptop, kde on the desktop. I can dig that :f04:41
Seveasselinium, there is the searchpage and the titleindex :)04:41
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Seveasselinium, what are you looking for in particular?04:41
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dylan_can i use my iPod in XMMS or in Linux at all?04:42
Bubbling_Zombiedylan_, try gtkpod04:42
Seveasdylan_, gtkpod04:42
dylan_thanks04:42
tdelaIs the kde-core kde-3.4?04:42
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Hieronymus!info kde-core04:43
ubotukde-core: (The K Desktop Environment (Core)), section kde, is optional. Version: 5:42ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB04:43
Seveastdela, apt-cache show $package04:43
dylan_synaptic can't find gtkpod04:43
tdelaSeveas: is that for installed packages?04:43
Seveasdylan_, it's in universe04:43
Seveastdela, all packages04:43
seliniumSeveas: I have just installed a clean version of Ubuntu, I used the ubuntuguide to carry on with the configuration. I was looking for a more instructive page in a similar theme. If you see what I mean!:)04:44
Bubbling_Zombietry the wiki selinium04:44
tdelaoh04:44
tdelasweet.04:44
dylan_universe what?04:44
tdelathanks Seveas04:44
Seveasselinium, don't fix a thing that isn't broken04:44
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Seveasselinium, if it works, you don't need to configure it04:44
Bubbling_Zombiethe universe reps. Try looking in "settings" -> "repesitorys"04:44
Bubbling_Zombiebut with less bad spelling04:44
dylan_ok04:45
Seveasif it doesn't work you find answers for your problems on the wiki04:45
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Seveasdylan_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:45
Seveasdylan_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:45
dylan_where do i find settings > repositories?04:45
Seveasdylan_, in synaptic04:45
dylan_ok thanks04:45
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Seveasbut read the pages behind the 2 urls I gave04:45
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seliniumSeveas: Sorry, my grammer in the last sentence sucked! In a previous install I used ubuntuguide, but i wanted to use a more informative webpage this time around! :)04:46
dylan_ok now im in settings > repositories in synaptic, it's just giving me a short list of the word "Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog"04:47
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seliniumto create Hoary install disk, I just have to download it and use nautilus-cd-burner to create it, yes?04:48
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Hieronymusselinium: yeah04:49
mgcrosshey, can someone help me? My workspace swticher has become borked....I get this error when checking prefs04:49
Hieronymusselinium: right-click the iso and select 'burn cd-image' (or something similar)04:49
mgcrossFailed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_10/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value04:49
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seliniumHieronymus: Cheers!04:49
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mgcrossselinuim: yes04:49
seliniumOnly 2hurs 20 minutes to go....04:50
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seliniumAs this drive now has a version of warty on it, it wont keep any configs when I install Hoary will it?04:51
catfoxmgcross, try deleting the applet, then re-adding it04:51
dylan_ok i tried going into universe to find gtkpod but i dont know what to do from there...please help04:51
Bubbling_Zombieselinium, try updating it using apt-get. Normally it'll keep most, if not all, of your own config files04:51
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Hieronymusselinium: it will if you dist-upgrade04:51
Hieronymusnot sure about cd04:51
mgcrossalready did..the I may have solved it through reading the darn error...readding did no good...configurationeditor...just followed the error04:52
mgcrosslol04:52
Bubbling_Zombieyou could use the cd to upgrade, but that seems like a big waste of bandwith to me04:52
seliniumBubbling_Zombie Hieronymus: I dont want it to keep any congfigs, so the cd will overwrite them, yes?04:53
Hieronymusselinium: Bubbling_Zombie is right, that'd be a waste. A clean install has advantages though04:53
Hieronymusselinium: if you tell it to04:53
Bubbling_Zombieselinium, if you reinstall it and format your partition: yes04:53
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seliniumBubbling_Zombie Hieronymus: Cool, I just want this machine to be clean and tidy before I go muddying it up with all my apt-gets! Cheers04:54
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dylan_ok so there's no way i can connect my ipod to my linux box and place songs on it?04:56
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Chillouthi could someone please help me installing JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net/) ? i tried to follow the instructions but seem to fail already at installing the required JAVA04:56
Chillout:(04:56
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randykayHello All.04:57
SeveasChillout: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 04:57
seliniumdylan__ What is the problem? Have you installed gtkpod?04:58
dylan_i cannot find it04:59
Nermaltype gtkpod ?04:59
Nermalit's not difficult04:59
randykayAre the cursors (fancy ones in Hoary) gone from Breezy ?  Mine look like MacOS9 ones.04:59
dylan_in synaptic, i did all of that.  it returns 0 results04:59
Nermaldylan_, sudo apt-get install gtkpod ?04:59
dylan_did that too04:59
ChilloutSeveas: k, i am not sure which file exactly to download tho. could u send me a link?05:00
goodoes anyone here have any experience with Cyrus and posgresql ?05:00
Nermalthen you don't have all the repositories05:00
seliniumdylan: are you using warty?05:00
dylan_im sorry i just installed linux this morning i dont know anything about linux05:00
Nermalgoo, a little.. I used to be the uk business support for suse open exchange server05:00
Bubbling_Zombiedylan_, did you enable the universe?05:00
dylan_yes05:00
Bubbling_Zombiereload the sources05:00
Nermaland did an apt-get update ?05:00
Bubbling_Zombie*package list*05:00
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dylan_i did not do apt-get update, should i?05:01
Bubbling_Zombieyes05:01
Nermalyou should05:01
seliniumdylan__ : It's frustrating when you first change!05:01
dylan_its updating05:01
gooNermal, nice. How the <beeep> do you get cyrus to authenticate IMAP users against a postgresql database ?05:01
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Nermalbut in time you'll get to be old and bitter like the rest of us05:01
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seliniumdylan__ apt-get update refreshes your application lists05:01
dylan_yes, selinium, it is frustrating but im quite sure that i will be pleased with ubuntu...it autoconfigged all my devices ;) unlike BeatrIX05:01
Nermalgoo, iirc, cyrus authenticates against LDAP on OE05:01
Bubbling_Zombiek, after it has updated, retry finding the gtkpod05:01
Bubbling_Zombieit'll be there05:02
dylan_ok its updated now what05:02
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Nermaldylan_, try to install it again05:02
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dylan_i did sudo apt-get install gtkpod and it returned the message "cannot find"05:02
Nermaloh05:02
dylan_should i reload the repositories again05:02
Discipulusdylan_, is your sources.list correct?05:02
ChilloutSeveas: k, i am not sure which file exactly to download tho. could u send me a link please?05:02
Nermaldylan_, and you've added universe and all to your sources.list ?05:02
seliniumdylan__ This is also the most helpful channel I have ever been on in 10 years of programming!05:02
dylan_i think ive added universe05:03
Discipulusdisc@student:~$ apt-cache search gtkpod05:03
Discipulusgtkpod - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod05:03
Discipulusgtkpod-aac - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod05:03
Discipulusdisc@student:~$05:03
dylan_ill try05:03
Nermalselinium, it used to be05:03
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gooNermal, then why do you reply to my question about cyrus and postgresql when you just know anything about cyrus and LDAP ??05:03
ubuntuhi. how do i change the resolution on my monitor without X running?05:03
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bob2dovecot!05:03
junehmm...05:03
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Nermalgoo, because you asked a stupid vague question like "does anyone here have any experience with Cyrus and posgresql ?"05:03
shadowbotHey everyone05:03
junecuriously...05:03
Discipuluschipparn, without X there is no reason the change the resolution05:04
dylan_SUCCESS! ive updated the repositories and it works...thanks so much!05:04
Nermaland have experience with cyrus and postgresql, just not making them talk to each other for authentication05:04
seliniumdylan__ np05:04
Bubbling_ZombieDiscipulus, small fontsize on the console is kinda nifty tho05:04
Nermal "does anyone here have any experience with Cyrus authenticating against a posgresql database?" would have been better05:04
junei suceed to install UBUNTU now.05:04
chipparnDiscipulus: hehe well.. yes there is becuse when i run X the resulotion is to high for this monitor05:04
juneso happy...haha05:04
Nermaland I wouldn't have wasted hundreds of key presses answering a numpty05:04
Bubbling_Zombienice june05:04
dylan_bye and thanks an infinity to the googol power!05:05
Discipuluschipparn, edit the xorg.conf05:05
junethanx zombie~!05:05
NermalI'm melting :|05:05
bob2goo: it's even better to just ask your question up front, instead of doing the whole "does nayone know anything about $blah"05:05
HieronymusNermal: #ubuntu-ice will help you05:05
chipparnDiscipulus. ok whith what? gedit dont work. ive tried it.05:05
Discipulusheh05:05
Nermalneed aircon :|05:05
Discipulusvi usually works good05:05
Discipulus:-P05:05
Discipulusor nano05:05
Nermalchipparn, vi ?05:05
Discipulusor pico05:05
Nermaled ?05:05
Discipuluspeople get too dependant on GUI apps, it sickens me!05:06
chipparnDiscipulus. is the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?05:06
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shadowbotHey angel_05:06
NermalDiscipulus, yeah! take their monitors away and glue LEDs to their cpu registers05:06
Discipulusdisc@student:~$ slocate xorg.conf05:06
Discipulus/etc/X11/xorg.conf05:06
chipparnNermal. ?05:06
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shadowbotHey dylan_05:06
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DiscipulusNermal, LET'S TAKE OVER THE WORLD!05:06
MoppinNermal, lol05:06
Nermal:D05:06
Nermalchipparn, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:07
dylan_crap...iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.05:07
dylan_ get this from gtkpod just now, i dont know what to do....im using an ipod shuffle05:07
Nermalmount the ipod I guess05:07
chipparnNermal.. ah ok thanks.. i will try that05:07
Panzerboyhey05:07
Discipuluslol05:07
Nermaland point gtkpod to the right place05:07
Chillouthi could someone please help me installing JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net/) ? i tried to follow the instructions but seem to fail already at installing the required JAVA05:07
dylan_ok ill try05:07
shadowbotshorty114!~shorty114@shorty114.user in #WordPress said: message05:07
Panzerboyanyone knows a good small utility for monitoring the log files?05:07
Nermaltail ?05:07
Discipulustail -f05:07
Nermallogcheck ?05:07
kroldenwhat's with the universe in sources.list?05:07
Panzerboylet me check logcheck05:08
SeveasPanzerboy, multitail05:08
Panzerboythanks05:08
NermalI'm stuck to my chair05:08
DiscipulusChillout, apt-cache search java05:08
Panzerboymaibe in the end i'll just spawn a couple of xterms with tail -f's in them05:08
randykaydylan_: Check that /media/ipod exists.  In gtkpod I had to change /mnt/ipod to /media/ipod in the preferences.05:08
NermalPanzerboy, logcheck will watch logfiles for security alerts and mail you suspect bits05:08
SeveasDiscipulus, java is not in the official repositories05:08
shadowbottecno-wiz!~tecno-wiz@82-46-104-242.cable.ubr02.chap.blueyonder.co.uk in #WordPress said: messages05:08
DiscipulusSeveas, it is in multiverse though05:08
Discipulus;-)05:08
G|immerI copied some deb packages to cd using Gnome CD/DVD writer, and now they have a "%3a" characters inside the name. What does that represent? a space?!05:08
PanzerboyNermal: i've used logwatch in fc4 it was interesting, thanks05:08
SeveasDiscipulus, nope...05:08
dylan_ok ill try that, randykay should i do that in terminal?05:08
Nermalbob2, +q shadowbot ?05:08
Bubbling_ZombieChillout, try searching the wiki for java. There are a couple of howto's for it. Pick the one you like best ^-^05:09
shadowbottecno-wiz!~tecno-wiz@82-46-104-242.cable.ubr02.chap.blueyonder.co.uk in #WordPress said: message05:09
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DiscipulusSeveas, Filename: dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb05:09
SeveasNermal, thanks for noticing05:09
ChilloutDiscipulus: this gives me a long output05:09
randykaydylan_: Mine cam up as /media/Randy's IPO.  I had to ln -s "/media/Randy's IPO" /media/ipod05:09
bob2Nermal: thanks05:09
NermalSeveas, np :)05:09
randykaydylan_: yes.05:09
SeveasDiscipulus, that is NOT multiverse...05:09
DiscipulusChillout, sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:09
Seveasthat is hoary-extras from backports05:09
seliniumdylan__ Sadly, you may need to run the install on a windows machine, as far as i remember this formats the drive in the pod. You may need to format the drive before you can use gtkpod. Not sure.05:09
DiscipulusSeveas, I can still install it though!05:09
SeveasDiscipulus, only with backports enabled....05:10
Seveasand that's not the default (and not the recommended way)05:10
randykaydylan_: I am also new to Linux/ipod.  ftkpod works very well.  I can see everything and copy to and copy from.  Very nice.05:10
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goobob2, yup, you're right. I'll come back asking better questions some other day.05:10
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dylan_dylan@ubuntu:~$ /media/Dylan's IPO05:10
dylan_> ln -s /media/Dylan's IPO /media/ipod05:10
dylan_bash: /media/Dylans IPO05:10
dylan_ln -s /media/Dylans: No such file or directory05:10
dylan_dylan@ubuntu:~$05:10
DiscipulusSeveas, well thankfully I have it enabled05:10
randykaydylan_: Sorry.  gtkpod05:10
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seliniumrandykay: had you already installed the pod on a windows machine? I think this formats the pods drive?05:10
ChilloutDiscipulus: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 tells me it cant find the file05:10
Nermaldylan_, for starters, you need to escape spaces in bash05:10
SeveasChillout: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:10
Nermalwith a \05:10
Nermaland also, no need to symlink it05:11
randykayselinium:  yes.05:11
DiscipulusChillout, add backport to your sources.list05:11
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Nermaljust change the prefs in gtkpod05:11
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dylan_ok05:11
bob2Seveas: where in the wiki/bot is that handy tip?05:11
Seveasbob2, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:11
Seveas(afaik)05:11
randykaydylan_: use " " quote marks around Dylan's IPO as there are spaces in there.05:11
ChilloutSeveas: ok, but i dont know which file exactly to dowload. i am all new to linux05:11
dylan_iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.05:11
nicklasWho maintains the backport repository?05:12
coolkevhello, Just recently i got an error a certain thing was unstable and i force quit it without reloading... I have restarted many time after that... but no luck... now none of my programs show in the bottom panel05:12
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SeveasChillout, you need the 'linux self extracting binary'05:12
coolkeveven after i minimize them05:12
seliniumdylan_ I think that you may need to install it via itunes on a windows machine before you will get the file structure.05:12
dylan_ok i did ln -s /media/"Dylan's IPO" and i get no message.  is that good?05:12
Discipulusdylan_, why are you symlinking it?05:12
randykaydylan_: That's good.05:13
dylan_sombody told me too.  thanks05:13
dylan_to*05:13
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coolkevalso i got beagle from synaptic on Hoary... and it doesn't open05:13
ChilloutSaveas: http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp gives me 2 files to chose05:13
ChilloutSaveas: both are self-extracting05:13
dylan_now i get the error message:  '/media/Dylan's IPO/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.05:14
coolkevit shows up as Best in my Application>Accessories05:14
dabaRa .rpm,. anmd a bin, choose the bin.05:14
dabaRif you want to install from tehre,...05:14
SeveasChillout, do NOT use the .rpm.bin05:14
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ChilloutSaveas: ok, ill download the other one05:14
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DiscipulusChillout, last time I checked you didn't use an RPM based distro....05:14
randykaydylan_: In gtkpod did you change the preferences to point to /media/ipod?05:14
GullyFoylehello, i installed ubuntu on a 3rd drive, and it completely disabled my onboard NIC, now the ethernet card is not even visible to windows or the other linux distro i have on my other 2 drives05:15
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cyphaseSeveas, sorry about that05:15
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dylan_gtkpod == garbage05:15
coolkevanyone can help me05:15
seliniumdylan_ THERE IS NO FILE STRUCTURE ON YOUR IPOD. The drive needs to be formatted. This is what gives your pod its name and structure. The pod does not konw it is Dylan's IPOD05:15
ChilloutDiscipulus: sorry, what did u check?05:15
coolkevonly ubuntu people can help me i think05:15
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GullyFoyledoes anyone know how to get any of my distros to detect the NIC?05:16
coolkevmy programs don't show in the bottom panel anymre05:16
DiscipulusChillout, you don't use an RPM based distro, so why would you download an RPM?05:16
dylan_ok...so i need to format it in windows?05:16
DiscipulusChillout, common sense would tell someone that...05:16
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dabaRcoolkev right click on the bottom panel, and add to panel.05:17
randykaydylan_: Or a MAC if your ipod has never been setup before.  After that gtkpod works just fine.05:17
coolkevok05:17
dabaRTHen choose window list05:17
coolkevthen what?05:17
slask3nare there any mapapplications to linux? similar to AutoRoute etc.?05:17
seliniumdylan_ I set up a pod for a friend a while ago, but in the set up it formats the ipods drive and gives it a file structure. Any PC will do.05:17
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randykaydylan_: I guess gtkpod does not do the initial setup.  Thanks for pointing that out selinium.05:17
coolkevahh thanks05:17
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dabaRworks?05:17
seliniumrandykay: np :)05:17
coolkevye05:18
coolkevthanks05:18
dabaRwelcome.05:18
ChilloutSaveas: ok, downloaded it and will try with the commands you gave me05:18
coolkevalso is beagle working with Haory?05:18
ralcthe wpasupplicant's md5 doesnt match and i need that package for my wireless network. what can i do?05:18
carambolwhat the command " killall gnome-panel" is doing?05:18
carambolis it for placing new install software in menu?05:18
SDFH_Linuxhow i make my wireless card work?05:18
coolkevi tried to get it from Synaptic and it gets it and install is, and i see an icon in Applications>accessories saying Best05:18
dabaRanything that is missing from the panels, u can usually get it there. Also killall gnome-panel in a terminal refreshes your panel, if you add something, or whatever.05:18
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Whistlerwhat should i use to connect to ssh shell?05:19
randykayDoes anyone know if it is possible to get the ipod to play ogg vorbis files ?  Can I copy a plugin on my ipod ???05:19
Seveasralc, use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive05:19
coolkevbut Beagle doesn't open when i click that icon05:19
ralcSDFH_Linux, which wireless card do you have?05:19
SeveasWhistler, ssh username@machine05:19
SDFH_Linuxnetgear wg51105:19
ralcSeveas, okay ill try05:19
dabaRit will work:)05:19
seliniumdylan_: let me konw how you get on! :)05:20
caramboldabaR, it is not for placing new install software in Appl menu?05:20
dylan_how i get on what?05:20
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dabaRcarambol: I dont understand, sorry, please rephrase.05:21
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Discipulusrandykay, does an iPod support ogg files?05:21
seliniumdylan_ with your pod05:21
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caramboldabaR, i have installed gnomebaker but i have no entry in Applications05:21
SDFH_Linuxanyone how i fix this?05:21
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Ian123456Intel Desktop Board D915Gav = No sound. Anyone helpme!05:22
dabaRcarambol, you can add entries to the menus. Ill get the procedure, just a sec.05:22
caramboldabaR, ok05:22
dylan_i got on my ipod recently using WinAmp with the ml_ipod plugin05:22
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ChilloutSaveas: fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  tells me "command not found"05:23
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caramboldabaR, is it refered to in ubuntuguide?05:23
Bubbling_Zombiesudo apt-get install fakeroot05:23
GullyFoylemsi kt6 delta board has had the NIC completely disbled by ubuntu. now it doesnt even work in windows.05:23
Discipuluscarambol, NEVER NEVER mention ubuntuguide05:23
DiscipulusSeveas, tell carambol about ubuntuguide05:23
seliniumdylan_: have you never used itunes to set up the drive then?05:24
carambolwhy not?05:24
Seveascarambol: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:24
dylan_it was autoconfigged drive05:24
dylan_the ipod, that is05:24
coolkevhow do you find out info about a package... do you type sudo apt-get info Beagle?05:24
Ian123456Sound in Ubuntu Hoary whit Board Intel D915Gav? Anyone?05:24
dabaRyou guys are weird, just an observation.05:24
coolkevyes05:24
Seveascoolkev, almost correct05:24
Seveascoolkev, use show instead of info05:24
Discipuluscoolkev, apt-cache show Beagle05:24
jasoncohenChillout, you need to install java-package- sudo apt-get install java-package05:24
seliniumdylan_: That is strange, Did you buy it second hand?05:24
coolkevohh ok thanks05:24
dabaRcarambol: anyhow...dunno, but, I know that it should be in the Apps>Accessories menu, looked there?05:24
dylan_i bought it at the Chicago Apple Store on North Michigan Ave, if that's what you mean05:25
Ian123456Please Help me!!05:25
dabaRsay with what.05:25
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caramboldabaR in  Accessoirs05:25
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, how would ubuntu "disable" your NIC?05:25
dabaRya, looked there?05:25
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carambolthx, dabaR05:26
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kaileyFreaky.05:26
dabaRa pink cd icon.05:26
dabaRcarambol: its there?05:26
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ChilloutSaveas: i donwloaded the java bin, then i did sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package (ok), then chmod +x [the .bin file]  (ok) but the next thing u told me to do: fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  tells me: command not found05:26
carambolyeah05:26
dabaRwelcome.05:26
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Ian123456whit sound in Ubuntu Hoary whit Board Intel D915Gav05:26
carambol many thnx dabaR05:26
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dabaRsure.05:26
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Ian123456Tanks05:26
seliniumdylan_: i don't know what else to say then. does winamp allow you to name your pod?05:26
dabaRIan123456: repeat your question.05:27
dylan_yes but im not using windows on this machine05:27
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Ian123456I have't sound in Ubuntu Hoary05:27
jasoncohenChillout, what command - make-jpkg: command not found?05:27
dabaRthanks.05:27
Ian123456I have a Intel Desktop Board D915Gav05:28
GullyFoylejasoncohen: i installed ubuntu and i couldnt connect to net because it couldnt find an ethernet card. reboot to windows and it cant find it either05:28
Chilloutjasoncohen: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found05:28
SeveasChillout, then you did not install java-package correctly05:28
crimsunIan123456: paste me result of: lspci -v |grep audio05:28
Seveastry sudo apt-get install java-package05:28
Ian123456ok05:28
jasoncohenChillout, dpkg -l java-package05:28
ChilloutSeveas: well might be. i did what u wrote me ^^05:29
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, is it enabled in the BIOS?05:29
Ian123456nothing05:29
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, onboard NIC right?05:29
SeveasChillout, something might have gone wrong05:29
Seveasaptitude is not the best in reporting errors05:29
GullyFoylenot visible in bios either. i think i have to reset cmos jumper now. grrr05:29
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, also, are you sure it's not defective? did it work before in windows05:29
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jasoncohenGullyFoyle, ubuntu would not "disable" it05:30
jasoncohenChillout, sudo apt-get install java-package to make sure05:30
ChilloutSeveas: so i try again with 1) sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, 2) chmod +x [the .bin file]  3) fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  4) sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]  )05:30
qt2do imac keyboards have a printscreen button?05:30
GullyFoyleit's worked for over a year in windows, debian, and yoper05:30
qt2apt is missig s many cool things...05:30
qt2stepmania.... darkice...05:30
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SeveasChillout, try apt-get install java-package05:30
kashaHi05:30
Seveasfakeroot is obviously there05:30
ChilloutSeveas: what do i write for "java-package"?05:31
Ian123456crimsun lspci -v |grep audio don't work05:31
jasoncohenwouldn't aptitude give an error if it couldn't install it?05:31
seliniumdylan_: I can only go by what I saw when I installed ny friends ipod with itunes. It formatted the drive, maybe in a different way than out of the box. I can only suggest trying it with itunes and then gtkpog should work. Ask randykay what he did with his.05:31
Seveasqt2, darkice is in there05:31
SeveasChillout, java-package05:31
qt2is it?05:31
Seveas:)05:31
kashaI have a trouble with vpn mppe conection to my ISP - kernel-panic05:31
jasoncohenChillout, what do you mean, what do you write? sudo apt-get install java-package05:31
crimsunIan123456: why doesn't it?05:31
ChilloutSeveas: :), ok05:31
Seveasqt2, yes05:31
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Seveasqt2 in universe05:31
ChilloutSeveas: it tells me that it couldnt find the package05:31
qt2so it is...05:32
kashaAnobody have solution05:32
qt2still dont have stepmania \o/05:32
qt2:P05:32
Ian123456I have no idea.... It just don't work05:32
Seveas:)05:32
Chillout??? i downloaded it tho05:32
SeveasChillout, you need to enable multiverse05:32
SeveasChillout: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:32
phinnaeusi am having trouble running a samba server, can someone help me?05:32
SeveasChillout: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:32
GullyFoylejasoncohen: mandrake did the same thing to my box about 6 mos. ago but i forget what i did to fix it05:32
jasoncohenqt2, apt is just the package management tool. it's the repositories that contain the software you want.05:32
Ian123456do you want to know wat "lsmod | grep snd " do?05:33
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, sounds like a weird mobo problem05:33
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jasoncohenIan123456, lsmod shows loaded modules, grep searches05:33
SeveasIan123456, it lists which kernel modules are loaded and only shows modules with snd in the name05:33
jasoncohenIan123456, so that searches for all modules with the string "snd" in them05:33
Ian123456ok05:33
dabaRhehe05:34
Ian123456snd_timer              23428  005:34
Ian123456snd                    52228  1 snd_timer05:34
Ian123456soundcore               9824  1 snd05:34
Ian123456snd_page_alloc          9604  005:34
GullyFoylejasoncohen: debian worked fine, i just thought i'd try ubuntu because the apps and such are more up-to-date05:34
ChilloutSeveas: the urls u gave me wont open :(05:34
qt2jasoncohen, i realize that.05:34
levanderEven though I don't have another firefox instance running, when I start firefox it asks me what profile I want to use.  There's a file somewhere I need to delete so that firefox doesn't think it has another instance running?05:34
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SeveasIan123456, DO NOT paste in here05:34
SeveasChillout, odd... let me check05:34
jasoncohenqt2, just clarifying as you said apt is missing a lot05:34
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qt2jasoncohen, i was complaining about the ubuntu repositories... but i was too lazy to type that out :P05:34
Ian123456Sorry... why?05:34
crimsunIan123456: search the Ubuntu wiki for instructions I've given for compiling the snd_azx driver from alsa-source in universe.05:34
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, debian testing is pretty up to date.05:34
crimsun!tell Ian123456 about alsa-source05:34
jasoncohenqt2, you just have to enable universe05:34
SeveasChillout, both work fine here...05:35
jasoncohenqt2, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components05:35
GullyFoylejasoncohen: when i  fix this i'm going back to it05:35
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phinnaeuscan someone help me set up a samba server?05:35
qt2jasoncohen, i have it enabled. :P05:35
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, i doubt it's an ubuntu problem if you saw the same thing in mandrake05:35
jasoncohenGullyFoyle, it sounds like a mobo issue05:35
Ian123456I have downloaded alsa Lib, oss, util and drivers... but it don't work05:35
jasoncohenqt2, and you might also want multiverse for some multimedia stuff05:35
crimsunIan123456: I gave you instructions at the link above.05:36
seliniumpinnaeus: there is a walk through at www.ubuntuguide.org05:36
ChilloutSeveas: mmh, strange seems firefox wont open any url now /worked fine a minute ago :( this is soooo frustrating05:36
qt2i thought multiverse was unsupported?05:36
Seveasselinium: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:36
jasoncohenqt2, so is universe05:36
Seveasqt2, it is community supported05:36
Ian123456I will try05:36
Seveasdefinitely not unsupported05:36
qt2i see.05:36
seliniumSeveas: Ok, Will look05:36
SeveasChillout, dns problems @ your provider?05:36
dabaRIan123456: good luck05:36
phinnaeusthank you selinium05:37
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Discipulusphinnaeus, DON'T GO THERE!05:37
ChilloutSeveas: now its working again.. strange05:37
Ian123456tanks for everyone ! :)05:37
ChilloutSeveas: i wll check the urls u gave me05:37
qt2Seveas, so... what's so bad about ubuntuguide?05:37
jasoncohenphinnaeus, usually it's a matter of installing samba-server and setting it up either by hand or samba-swat05:37
Discipulusphinnaeus, don't use ubuntuguide, ever05:37
dabaRwelcome05:37
Seveasqt2, read the page behind that link...05:37
Discipulus!ubuntuguide05:37
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines05:37
jasoncohenphinnaeus, sudo apt-get install samba swat05:38
dabaRshould I use the ubuntuguide if I want a set of instructions without an ex[planation?05:38
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jasoncohenphinnaeus, then http://localhost:931/05:38
DiscipulusdabaR, if you want a set of instructions without explanation then you shouldn't be using Linux.05:38
dabaRDiscipulus: really, what if I like it?05:38
tecno-wizhey05:39
jasoncohenphinnaeus, my mistake - http://localhost:90105:39
qt2Seveas, eh? page behinf that link?05:39
DiscipulusdabaR, if you don't want to learn how to do something than you are not fit to be in the linux world.05:39
qt2*behind05:39
dabaRI mean, if I like Linux, but still want a set of instructions with no explanation cause I cant remember a syntax?05:39
DiscipulusSeveas, what is ubuntuguide05:39
Seveasqt2: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:39
Discipulusqt2, follow the link.05:39
thoreauputicdabaR: you're free to do as you wish, of course :)05:39
ChilloutSeveas: so i paste the urls in the top box of (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38) into my sources.list?05:39
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hack_benjamina friend of mine upgraded to breezy and would now like to downgrade. hows it done?05:40
rob^Seveas, you'll be happy to know an official one is comming out soon (with breezy)05:40
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qt2oh... *didnt notice the ending bit*05:40
HieronymusChillout: if you want to be free you can/must remove multiverse and restricted05:40
jasoncohenphinnaeus, read this wiki about setting up samba - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2905:40
phinnaeusoh awesome, thanks05:40
thoreauputicSeveas: of course, you wrote that entry, so some might say it's a bit extreme to pan ubuntuguide completely :)05:40
Discipulusqt2, it's good to read everything someone says05:40
ChilloutHieronymus: if u want to be free?? sorry dont get it05:41
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HieronymusChillout: if you want to use only free software (free as in freedom, sometimes also called 'open-source software')05:41
HieronymusChillout: restricted and multiverse contain software which isn't free05:42
hack_benjaminanyone? how downgrade to hoary again?05:42
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seliniumSeveas: I understand the reasoning behind not using ubuntuguide but it linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation and was one of the first resources I found using the wiki! :)05:42
ChilloutHieronymus: well what i want is to install java. and i am trying to follow Seveas instructions05:42
jasoncohenphinnaeus, i would recommend using swat to setup samba. it's very simple to use05:42
Discipulushack_benjamin, change "breezy" to "hoary" in your sources.list05:42
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Discipulushack_benjamin, then 'sudo apt-get update'05:42
qt2Discipulus, heh, yeah yeah, sorry, i'm only half awake...05:42
Discipulushack_benjamin, then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'05:42
hack_benjaminits not mine- im a gentoo user- you'll have to forgive me- where is the file?05:42
HieronymusChillout: okay, just do what Seveas said then05:42
Discipulusqt2, no problems mate, I'm a morning person, most aren't05:43
kashaanybody can help with ubuntu connect to vpn ?05:43
ChilloutSeveas: so i paste the urls in the top box of (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38) into my sources.list?05:43
Discipulushack_benjamin, /etc/apt/sources.list05:43
HieronymusChillout: correct05:43
hack_benjamincheers05:43
ChilloutHieronymous: ok, i do that then :)05:43
HieronymusSeveas: do you think maybe you could tweak/edit the !sources a bit? To add comments etc?05:43
jasoncohenDiscipulus, that won't work05:44
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HieronymusSeveas: or maybe I could do that05:44
qt2Discipulus, heh, it's 16 minutes to noon here, i haven't been to sleep in 2.5 days... :P05:44
dabaRI think ubotu should be configured to allow queries from unregistered nicks.05:44
dabaRthis way he spams the channel.05:44
qt2i dont even remember when morning is anymore...05:44
jasoncohenDiscipulus, there is no easy way to downgrade- only to upgrade05:44
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jasoncohenDiscipulus, apt is made to allow for smooth upgrades- not downgrades05:45
seliniumQuick question, is it possibly to upgrade from x86 to 64bit?05:45
kashaSnakeBite when i connect with mppe kernel-panic , my platform is AMD 6405:45
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kashano05:46
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seliniumkasha: was that an answer to my question?05:46
Discipulusjasoncohen, oh, my bad05:46
kashaSnakeBite yes, configs from my prevuis Mandrake linux05:47
thoreauputickasha: umm...are you in the right channel?05:47
kashaselinium - sorry05:47
ChilloutSeveas: ok, i added the repositories. i then did "apt-get install java-package" (ok) what wat then the next thing to do?05:48
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kashathoreauputic  - my system is ubuntu05:48
kashaubuntu 5.0405:48
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thoreauputickasha: oh OK - I couldn't see anything from SnakeBite05:49
thoreauputickasha: a tab complete error I guess - sorry05:49
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seliniumHas anyone here recovered a drive with a bad boot block? As Ubuntu loads it reports a duplicate block in the boot. Any ideas?05:50
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kashathoreauputic - no info in /var/log/syslog - after pon izum - izum - is my config for ISP  - system just freeze05:50
kashaafter reboot no info in logs - in config option debug ang dump enabled05:51
johnhopkinshi, anyone had any joy on running ardour on a powerbook G4. Compiled it ok but can't get Jack to work. Anyone got any pointers?05:51
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kashain /etc/modules - ppp_mppe05:51
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rob^I'm getting this on the Launchpad GPG key Management page when trying to insert my gpg fingerprint: Key 1024D/2CF20033 was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.05:52
rob^any ideas?05:52
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_maydayjay_Sorry if this has already been asked, but has anyone else experienced difficulties running the XFCE4 packages?05:53
kasha:-(05:53
steve_nope am using one05:53
ryanmaydayjay - im on xfce right now05:53
ryanusing the ubuntu packages05:53
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thoreauputic_maydayjay_: Just Works (tm) here05:54
ColonelKernelis it possible to boot ubuntu livecd off of a usb storage device?05:54
qt2*looks through synaptic* where IS jack anyway?05:54
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ColonelKernelI could use a 1g and use the extra space to store settings couldnt I?05:54
thoreauputicqt2: jackd perhaps05:55
crimsunqt2: jack or jackd?05:55
Seveazdennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache show jack | grep Filename05:55
SeveazFilename: pool/universe/j/jack/jack_3.1.1-1_i386.deb05:55
Seveazthere it is :)05:55
_maydayjay_<XFCE4> Thanx, I'll try again... had problems on Hoary with some of the packages missing when I did an apt-get .  I am using regular sources, so I don't know what was wrong05:55
DiscipulusColonelKernel, it's possible if the BIOS supports USB Booting...05:55
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steve_mayday add ossilation05:55
thoreauputic_maydayjay_: xfce4 is a universe package05:56
Sionideeeesshh05:56
Sionidei feel guilty05:56
Sionidei told a guy to try out ubuntu cos he was looking at going into linux05:56
Sionideand i think he's gone and wiped his windows install...05:56
Sionide:/05:56
thoreauputicsteve_: no need - the Ubuntu xfce4 is fine05:56
DiscipulusSionide, don't feel bad, he had it coming!05:56
steve_well i dont know.  i added os and installed the whole desktop05:56
qt2well thre we go...05:57
qt2 woot again.05:57
qt2;)05:57
crimsunuse xfce4 from universe, steve_05:57
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_maydayjay_thoreauputic - Thanks... I was using universe...just running the install again and I'll let you know...05:58
Rubinim getting md5sum mismatches on a lot of packages on us.archive.ubuntu.com05:58
Rubinanyone else?05:58
SeveasRubin, yes05:58
Seveasuse archive.ubuntu.com05:58
Seveasus.a.c is b0rked *again*05:58
steve_thoreauputic: well the reason for this was i apt-get install xfld-desktop05:58
qt2remove the 'us.' from your sources. ;)05:58
qt2us mirrors are having problems it seems.05:59
Rubinthink its a security risk?05:59
ColonelKernelDiscipulus, Im trying to find a howto on google but I was hoping maybe someone could spare me the misery of searching if they know of one off hand - do you?05:59
steve_i know i know i can just install xfce4 and that us fine, but i want to have the the complete desktop and goodies too05:59
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thoreauputicsteve_: ah - i stay away from 3rd party repos personally06:00
kroldenhow do I see where apt-get has installed the files for a specific packet?06:00
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thoreauputickrolden: dpkg -L <packagename>06:00
mgcrossJUST ADDED sorry capslock..a new monitor...how do I rescan hardware? Strange things happening...06:00
mgcrossor can I?06:00
kroldenthoreauputic: thx06:00
_maydayjay_steve_ - I'm pretty sure xfce4 is a metapackage with all the goodies06:00
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steve_thoreauputic : hmmmm i know so right after the installation i commented it out :) but worked okay06:00
Hieronymusmgcross: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:01
steve_no no xfce4 is just the basic06:01
steve_i gues06:01
mgcrossHieronymous: thanks!06:01
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neelshi all -- can i upgrade from warty to hoary?06:01
qt2steve_, xfce4 is a metapackage.06:01
Hieronymusneels: yes you can06:01
neelsHieronymus: how?06:02
neels;)06:02
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steve_am not sure, i have always installed the whole desktop since debian06:02
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Hieronymushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuideToHoary neels06:02
gregneels: sed -i s/warty/hoary/g /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade06:02
mgcross/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver.org is not installed06:03
DiscipulusColonelKernel, hmm, you could put an OS on a USB drive, use the Live CD and just copy everything06:03
thoreauputicmgcross: xserever-xorg06:03
Seveasmgcross, xserver-xorg06:03
neels--- pondering ---06:03
thoreauputicoops06:03
mgcrossoops..doh06:03
thoreauputicwhat seveas said ;)06:03
DiscipulusColonelKernel, or you could for the install, instead of selecting your HD, select a USB Drive06:03
_maydayjay_thoreauputic, qt2 - It ended up being the US archives... I removed the us. and I'm in business .. thanks for the tips!06:03
ColonelKernelDiscipulus, that is what im hoping to do, and then use the extra 300mb or so for it to store settings in06:03
dabaRwelcome06:03
DiscipulusColonelKernel, I'm not really sure what would work, but, as I said, the BIOS has to support booting from a USB drive and I certainly know that mine wouldn't...06:04
thoreauputic_maydayjay_: ah, us. strikes again ;-)06:04
ColonelKernelDiscipulus, no I want to put it onto a shuttle board06:04
ColonelKernelitll support it06:04
neelsgreg & Hieronymus: does upgrading imply loading all new packages down via internet? I was thinking more like a CD upgrade...06:04
Seveasneels, you can do both06:04
ColonelKernelI just want to be able to copy things over like that06:04
_maydayjay_The US archive problems might explain a few other things... how long have they been having issues?06:05
Hieronymusneels: well, you'll need to get yourself a cd then06:05
Seveas a few days now06:05
Raskall-gprsit is so incredibly cool to be online on the train. It makes the commute very bearable.06:05
ColonelKernelmaybe write the /home dir (with one user only) to the other 300mb06:05
neelsi've GOT a cd ... ;) ... but what do i do with it?06:05
Discipuluswell, i'm out06:05
ColonelKernelso I can save settings and the such06:05
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shadowbotHey everyone06:05
cyphaseoops06:05
Sonderbladewhat is the name of the stanislav python editor apt-file?06:05
qt2_maydayjay_, at least a few days, dont know beyond that.06:05
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shadowbotHey haich06:05
thoreauputic_maydayjay_: this is not the first time the us. archive has had troubles06:05
Hieronymusneels: I'm not relaly sure, try putting it in :)06:05
Raskall-gprsand with gnome-phonemanager I can do my sms-ing from the computer too. :)06:05
cyphasenooo06:06
cyphaseit's not leaving06:06
ColonelKernelbut if I can somehow copy the livecd to a 1g usb stick and boot it that would make me very happy06:06
thoreauputicneels: sudo apt-cdrom add06:06
neelsHieronymus: argh, that hurts. hmm, it doesn't fit! (lol)06:06
ColonelKerneli'd put 1g of ecc ram in the box and load it toram if it would support that too06:06
Hieronymusneels: :-)06:06
neelsthoreauputic: aaah!06:06
cyphaseah, i c06:06
cyphase*sigh*06:07
ColonelKernelthe livecd is static anyhow06:07
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shadowbotHey Dalkus06:07
ColonelKernelbut the idea is to have no moving parts06:07
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ColonelKernelno hd or cdrom drive nayhow06:07
Dalkushi06:07
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Dalkuser. I have a bit of a problem:06:07
HieronymusColonelKernel: silence?06:07
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ColonelKernelHieronymus, fishing for a respoence from anyone who may be knowledgeable06:08
geekbuenas06:08
neelsshit, a lot happening here. i'll make some room now -- THANKS!06:08
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ColonelKernelthis IS the most popular distro at distrowatch, and I see why06:08
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Dalkusmy computer is partitioned so that hda1 is windows and hda2 runs linux. I isntalled linux first a few months ago, then windows right afterwards and grub was installed on hda1 (windows partition). I just did a fresh install of windows on hda1 so grub has been wiped06:08
Dalkushow can I replace grub so I can boot back into linux and windows?06:08
Dalkuswithout reinstalling linux?06:08
HieronymusDalkus: there's a wiki page on that, restorgrub or something06:08
highvoltagehi. i just installed mediawiki 1.4, imported the database, and that works. how do I get my images to work?06:09
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Dalkusthanks, I'll look06:09
neelsDalkus: you can also try booting your linux from a rescue cd06:09
ColonelKernelI nkow how to do that with fedora but not w ubuntu06:09
highvoltagesorry, wrong channel :)06:09
Dalkusneels, you think that'll work?06:09
ColonelKernelrescue cd is easy just grub-install /dev/hda06:09
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neelsDalkus: and then run sudo grub-install06:09
neelsDalkus: YEP06:09
Hieronymushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows Dalkus06:10
Dalkusright thanks, so boot up with rescue install, get root shell then just grub-install ?06:10
Dalkusty, Hieronymus06:10
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neelsgrub-install /dev/hda06:10
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SeveasDalkus, if you are in an experimental mood: http://ubuntu-nl.org/files/06:10
neelsas ColonelKernel pointed out ;)06:10
Dalkusneels, not hda1?06:10
Seveastry the restore -grub script06:10
thoreauputic_maydayjay_: :D06:10
neelsDalkus: grub-install /dev/hda06:10
Seveas(no guarantees on usefulness)06:10
neelsor whatever ;)06:10
Dalkusok, thanks06:11
neelsman grub-install06:11
neels...06:11
neels;)06:11
neelscheers everyone!06:11
Seveasneels, grub-install is not all you need06:11
neelshuh??06:11
seanjhi, i have  a HP DeskJet 600c and hpijs installed, can print a test page with the gnome printer config applet but can't print to the locally connected printer with any app... this problem has lasted 2 months06:11
thoreauputicneels: man man ;-)06:11
DalkusSeveas, no?06:11
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neelsSeveas: whatchatalkinabout06:11
SeveasDalkus, or it must have changed since I tried it :)06:12
Seveashmm, nvm06:12
Dalkuswhat else would I need to do...?06:12
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Seveasthat was on a live-cd without grub-install06:12
neelsgrub-install should work since it has been configured before.06:12
Seveashad to use the one on my disk06:12
Dalkusthis'll work with a livecd aswell as rescue install?06:12
neelsOK STEP BY STEP...06:12
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neelsDalkus: boot from CD, then run the "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from your booted system, not from the rescue CD06:13
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neelsI AM SURE.06:13
neelsoh...06:13
neelsDalkus:06:13
Dalkuser... boot an already installed ubuntu from the cd? I've never seen that option...?06:14
neelsDalkus: you might have to add your windows to the grub config.06:14
neelsNO06:14
thoreauputicneels: from the live CD would that not require a chroot?06:14
Dalkusyeah I can do that easy enough06:14
neelsaRGH!06:14
neels;)06:14
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neelsNOT the live cd.06:14
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neelse.g. you can use the slackware cd to boot a system from the hard disk06:14
thoreauputicneels: right, just to clear up the confusion :)06:14
seanjzero search results for printing in the online docs, is that intentional.. after 2 months? o_O06:15
neelsi don't know if ubuntu cds offer booting from hd06:15
DalkusI've got a server distro I can use to boot my current hd06:15
neelsmaybe you can ... this is getting too intricate.06:15
neelsOK!06:15
thoreauputicneels: there's a rescue option, yes06:15
seanjand cups is crippled so it can't be configured manually. i swear this is a ploy for $$06:16
neelsguys, i'm hungty ;)06:16
neelsr06:16
tritiumseanj, what are you trying to do?06:16
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Hieronymus!give neels food06:16
ubotuWish i knew, Hieronymus06:16
neelsDalkus: GOOD LUCK & kick that windows soon as possible.06:16
seanjhi, i'll re-post06:16
neels... bye!06:16
seanj<seanj> hi, i have  a HP DeskJet 600c and hpijs installed, can print a test page with the gnome printer config applet but can't print to the locally connected printer with any app... this problem has lasted 2 months06:17
Dalkusneels, ahh I hate windows, I never use it :P It's for a friend that's staying round for a month06:17
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DalkusI'm quite happy under a linux only enviroment06:17
seanji came here 2 months ago asking because there was nothing in the docs about printing, and nothing has changed.06:17
neels[munch munch] 06:17
tritiumseanj, which docs are you referring to?06:17
neelsBURRRRP!06:17
seanjthe documentation wiki06:17
seanji've already read the start guide from front to back06:17
tritiumdid you look in seanj, /usr/share/doc/cupsys ?06:18
Hieronymusseanj: that thing is edited by users, so please contribute something to it :-)06:18
seanjand used the instructions to no avail06:18
neelscool place. thanks to all of you! ;)06:18
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seanjHieronymus, what shall i contribute? hello, cups is purposely crippled so that you cannot configure your HP Deskjet?06:18
jasoncohenany decent gui apps to send SMS messages from PC to a mobile phone?06:18
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jasoncoheni usually use gaim but it doesn't always work06:18
thoreauputicseanj: umm...purposely crippled??06:18
seanj"Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing."06:19
virtuald!ubuntuguide06:19
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.06:19
seanjyes, thoreauputic, that's what i'd call it06:19
tritiumjasoncohen, did you try "apt-cache search SMS | grep phone"06:19
jasoncohenseanj, CUPS by default only allows connections on localhost, and it restricts administrative access06:19
tritiumseanj, did you look in /usr/share/doc/cupsys for more info?06:19
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Jowihi all06:20
seanji did look in /usr/share/doc/cupsys and found the same documenation as comes with debian, but this isn't the debian version and it doesn't apply06:20
traumahi06:20
jasoncohentritium, yes- gnome-phone-manager is meant to work with a mobile phone using bluetooth/serial/IrDA. sms-client is cli06:20
tritiumseanj, yes, it applies, aside from the web configuration06:20
seanjubotu, no response from that url you gave06:20
ubotuseanj: Are you smoking crack?06:20
seanjwhat kind of idiot question is that?06:21
thoreauputicseanj: ubotu is a bot ;)06:21
thoreauputicseanj: don't be too hard on him :)06:21
seanjwell colour me not technically inclined :/06:21
seanjsorry06:21
Jowiubotu seem to need some modifications...06:22
ubotuJowi: I give up, what is it?06:22
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seanjit's very frustrating to see this older printer magically configured on every distro i've tried in a year and not be able to manage it in any way using Ubuntu Hoary06:22
Jowi!gnome06:22
ubotuJowi: No idea06:22
rob^seanj, dont worry, your not the first person I've seen06:22
seanjk rob :/06:22
Jowi!kill06:22
ubotuJowi: I don't know, could you explain it?06:22
seanjdid anyone walk away with a working printer.. ?06:22
rob^!botabuse06:23
uboturob^: I haven't a clue06:23
thoreauputicJowi: that'll do for abusing the bot I think06:23
rob^dang, ubotu doesnt have it06:23
Jowiwhat commands does ubotu accept?06:23
jasoncohenseanj, did you try adding it as a new printer in gnome-cups-manager ( system > administrative > printing)06:23
jasoncohenit should auto recognize the printer, find a driver for it and add it06:23
seanjyes jason i did, can even print the test page with no problems06:23
seanjusing the gimp print + hpijs drivers06:23
seanjbut only the gnome cups manager can print to it06:24
seanjand i have no idea why06:24
tritiumseanj, can you give us an example where printing fails?06:24
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seanjsure tritium. i've setup the printer with working drivers and succeeded in printing the cups test page using gnome-cups-manager. i open up gedit and a text file from my home dir, opt to print the file to the "Hp Deskjet" and nothing happens. If I open a web page in firefox, same results. Same with anything on the CLI.06:26
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seanji can't even cat file|lpr06:26
CarinArrhey guys.. i'm getting errors from synaptic trying to download some packages.. telling me the checksum's don't add up06:26
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seanjbut echo blah >/dev/lp0 works06:26
Jowiseanj, so you can print as root but nothing else?06:26
tritiumseanj, does "lp" (not "lpr") work from the CLI?06:26
seanji thought that jowi, but chmodded it 777 and still got nothing working06:27
seanji'll check "lp", brb!06:27
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seanjlp: error - scheduler not responding!06:27
seanjguess not.06:27
CarinArrso i tried downloading the packages straight from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ and trying to install them using dpkg -i tells me that the archive is corrupt06:27
seanjno errors in the cups log files06:28
tritiumCarinArr, why not use apt-get or synaptic?06:28
traumaCarinArr, use another mirror06:28
seanji think possibly someone's creativity ruined my productivity lol06:28
tritiumseanj, any errors if you manually restart cups?  (sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart)06:28
CarinArrcause i'm getting errors tritium..06:28
traumawhat about aptitude?06:28
seanjno errors on restart :/06:28
tritiumCarinArr, US mirrors?06:28
thoreauputicCarinArr: us.archive has issues atm06:28
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SonderbladeWhy can't you bind SUPER_L+some other key shortcut anymore?06:29
CarinArri was just using that us one cause i copied stuff from the ubuntu starter guide;)06:29
CarinArrwhat's a better mirror to use? (i'm in the uk)06:29
thoreauputicSonderblade: sounds like a gnome thing more than a Ubuntu thing06:29
thoreauputicCarinArr: try replacing us. with uk.06:30
jasoncohenseanj, working now?06:30
traumaCarinArr: what packages exactly are u downloading?06:30
seanjno jason, afraid not06:30
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CarinArrtrauma, imlib2 amongst others06:30
seanjmaybe i can just install apsfilter or something06:31
traumaCarinArr: did you try apt-get install imlib2?06:31
jasoncohenseanj, when you print from gnome, do you see a printer icon in the top right panel? what does it show as the error?06:32
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CarinArruk. just hangs and doesn't do anything.. seem to have problems getting to *.ubuntu.com..06:32
seanjno printer icon, no error06:32
seanjno response of any kind06:32
jasoncohenthat is weird06:32
seanjand the only distro i've tried so far that's given me this kind of grief with the printer lol06:32
seanjaye it is06:32
seanji think 3 months is long enough to give up hope06:33
seanjthanks for tolerating my grumpiness06:33
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thoreauputicCarinArr: try removing uk. completely then and just using archive.ubuntu.com or whatever06:33
CarinArrtrauma, apt-get just says package not available06:33
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seanjtake care, ppl06:33
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traumaCarinArr: probably your repositories06:34
traumaCarinArr: try to follow the guide on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories06:34
thoreauputicCarinArr: erm - try  libimlib206:34
thoreauputicapt-cache search imlib2  <<--- always a good first move06:34
tritiumCarinArr, after you changed repositories, you'll have to do an apt-get update before you can retrieve any packages.06:34
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CarinArrtrauma, that's the guide i followed from the start06:35
thoreauputictritium: methinks the package name was wrong06:36
JowiCarinArr, imlib2 gave me problems as well06:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich type of perl would i need for this? configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool06:36
Erealzhi all06:36
tritiumthoreauputic, ah, okay ;)06:36
traumaweird06:36
Erealzim new to ubuntu06:36
Jowii downloaded it from source and comiled it myself06:36
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thoreauputicJowi: it's right there - it's called libimlib206:36
tritiumJowi, using an ubuntu package would be the preferred approach.06:36
Jowithoreauputic, yes, but for me it did not work06:36
sam_couldnt the apt programs check for changes to sources.list and automatically upgrade if needed?06:36
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Jowiimlib2 is broken06:37
Jowiimlib2-1.0.5.tar.gz works06:37
traumathen source is the only solution06:37
Erealzim about to try it out , and i just wanted to know what set it apart from other distros , i see that it #1 on distrowatch so i wanted to know why is so populer?06:37
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traumacan be downloaded from http://freshmeat.net/projects/imlib2/06:37
CarinArrthoreauputic, so why is there one imlib2 and one libimlib2 in synaptic? are they the same?06:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYany ideas?06:38
thoreauputicCarinArr: I see no imlib2 here on a search06:38
Jowitraume, imlib2-1.0.6.tar.gz does not work until 1.0.5 has been installed though06:38
thoreauputicCarinArr: do you have extra repos?06:38
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CarinArrthoreauputic, i have the repositories described in: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories06:38
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CybeRc:)06:38
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tritiumCarinArr, libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev.  The first has the libraries, the second includes the header files.06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone have any idea about my isshue?06:38
thoreauputicCarinArr: well, i just have multiverse, universe, main etc06:39
CarinArrtritium, thanks.. i know how to compile things though, just wondering why synaptic keeps giving me errors;)06:39
thoreauputicCarinArr: maybe yet another backports issue?06:39
CarinArrmaybe06:39
CarinArri'll just compile it06:39
tritiumplagueports06:39
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CarinArrthought i would do things the neat way and try to stick to packages06:40
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JowiCarinArr, start with 1.0.5 first. if you need to update to a later one this one is what you need first of all...06:40
thoreauputicCarinArr: TBH I would comment backports out and update06:40
Jowilearned that the hard way :-)06:40
phinnaeuswhat is the best guide for samba server?06:41
traumaweird, but I get all the imlib packages installed with synaptic06:41
traumasure it's not a repository problem?06:41
traumait's my only guess06:41
CarinArrthanks Jowi, thoreauputic i think i migth have already commented them out cause i was thinking they might be causing it06:41
jcoxonare the repositorys down? i'm not able to download right now any ideas?06:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i restore this file : esd.conf_backup to esd.conf?06:42
thoreauputicCarinArr: just checked here and i have libimlib2 installed so... no problems on this system06:42
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CarinArryeah i'd already removed the backports06:42
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cmathesonChurcH_of_FoamY: 'mv esd.conf_backup esd.conf'06:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYk06:42
tritium(don't forget to use sudo)06:42
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thoreauputictritium: beat me to it :)06:43
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tritiumthoreauputic, :)06:43
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CarinArrjcoxon, i can't access any but us.archive.ubuntu.com06:43
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jcoxonCarinArr, hmmm i'm trying archive.ubuntu.com06:44
jcoxonCarinArr, still nothing06:44
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CarinArrjcoxon, i can't do archive.ubuntu.com either.. but us. works for some reason06:44
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jcoxonCarinArr, different locatiosn06:44
CarinArryeah06:44
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jcoxonstating the obvious but i guess us is in the usa :p06:45
CarinArrheh yeah i guessed that much06:45
tombshi ppl06:45
jcoxonnot sure where the main one is, uk?06:45
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_maydayjay_CarinArr - I just took the us.  off of archives in my sources.list to resolve an XFCE install problem and it worked without issue.06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to compile a program and it says that i need some sorta perl for intell? then something about an xml error too any ideas guys/gals?06:46
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traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: what error exactly?06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYhold on phone06:46
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<06:47
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SDFH_Linuxguys trying to put the ndiswrappers06:47
SDFH_Linuxi do the steps and when i go to modprobe ndiswrapper06:47
SDFH_Linuxit says operation not permitted06:47
SDFH_Linuxwhat am i doing wrong?06:47
traumaSDFH_Linux : use sudo modprobe ndiswrapper06:48
ColonelKernelcan ubuntu livecd be loaded toram?06:48
SDFH_Linuxtried that no dice06:48
tritiumAndyR, no advertisements, please.  Thanks06:48
slask3nare there any map-applications to linux? similar to AutoRoute maybe?06:48
SDFH_Linuxsays erro inserting ndiswrapper06:48
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tritiumslask3n, routeplanner and routeplanner-gnome06:49
SDFH_Linuxthen it lists the /lib/modules/ etc then operation not permitted06:49
SDFH_Linuxany ideas?06:49
slask3nk06:49
=== Erealz what set ubuntu apart from other distros?
traumaSDFH_Linux : not much experience, but then it's probably an ndiswrapper malconfig06:49
Tuxisthi06:49
tritiumslask3n, (apt-cache search map | grep route)06:49
SDFH_Linuxwhat i do then trauma?06:49
luzbelitohi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu.06:49
tritiumErealz, download the liveCD, and find out for yourself without having to install ;)06:50
Tuxisti have problems to compile amarok cvs version06:50
_maydayjay_SDFH_Linux - try 'sudo su' and then work through the commands... sudo should work fine though.06:50
traumaSDFH_Linux : check if your driver corresponds with the hardware -> ndiswrapper -l06:50
SDFH_Linuxk06:50
tritiumsudo -i works nicely06:50
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CarinArr_maydayjay_, thanks, i'll do that as soon as the other archives seem accessible from here06:50
Tuxist/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL06:51
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SDFH_Linuxsays the same thing06:52
SDFH_Linuxoperation not permitted06:52
cmathesonTuxist: you need to install the gl-dev libs06:52
Tuxistthank you06:53
MrMaDSeNanyone know a similar app like navstudio 2005 for linux?06:53
SDFH_Linuxno matter what i do modprobe ndiswrapper06:53
SDFH_Linuxnot working06:53
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jasoncohen!stats06:53
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jasoncohendoes ubotu have info on the # of packages in hoary main?06:54
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luzbelitohi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu.06:54
traumaSDFH_Linux : try removing the driver and then renstall it06:54
traumaSDFH_Linux : or try following the instructions from here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568306:55
SDFH_Linuxk06:55
luzbelitohi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???06:55
tritiumluzbelito, please don't repeat06:55
luzbelitosorry me06:55
luzbelitotritum06:55
tritiumno problem :)06:55
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AerebusI'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?06:56
tritiumluzbelito, you might look at the result from "apt-cache search dvd | grep rip"06:57
Tuxistyour smb.conf ?06:57
tritiumluzbelito, I hope you've got the multiverse repo in your sources.list06:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYtrauma your never gonna beleve this........06:58
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: what?06:58
luzbelitotritium: yes i do. but i dont know wich program use. pls help06:58
ChurcH_of_FoamY a customer called and wanted to know why his computer diden't boot nor look like windows xp06:58
jeewhere can i change default applications for certain filetypes?06:58
tritiumluzbelito, I've never tried it.  Please see my message regarding apt-cache search above...06:59
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traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: and?06:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i just spent the last 10 minutes explaning to him that it was LINUX not xp....06:59
luzbelitotritum: wich msg ???06:59
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: oh my god.06:59
tritiumluzbelito, you might look at the result from "apt-cache search dvd | grep rip"06:59
just_inIs it normal on a laptop running acpi for the kacpid daemon to rev up to 40% CPU usage and stay there?06:59
luzbelitooh its ok06:59
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: never heard something as crazy as this06:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYand he asked what's linux >.< so i had to explane to him what linux was >.<06:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYhe thought m$ was the only manufacturer of os's out there >.<07:00
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: so that guy is probably a master in linux without even knowing it07:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamYmust be lol07:00
tritiumaw, be nice07:00
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: great story07:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYtrauma have the error for you in a sec07:00
traumak07:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamYconfigure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool07:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere ya go07:01
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H0lyD4wgHow does one get midi playback in Ubuntu? I've STFW'ed and tried some things but none of them worked so I'm not going to touch midi again before I get some guidance.07:01
traumathx checking it out07:01
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cmathesonH0lyD4wg: i haven't played a stinkin' midi in *forever*, but timidity was way rad a few years ago.. it's probably still kickin'07:02
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thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: try installing timidity and freepats07:02
ralchmm i screwed up the ipw2200 default drivers from ubuntu install, how do i get the drivers back?07:03
jasoncohen!hoary stats07:03
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ubotujasoncohen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:03
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H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, i got timidity and freepats installed on the other machine. "timidity foo.mid" plays, but playmidi, pmimi, kmid, rosegarden etc. don't give any midi output.07:04
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thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: yeah, you need jack/jackd and a lot of patience :/07:04
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Aerebuslol07:05
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H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, assuming i got some patience, what should i read?07:06
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: looking now - hang on07:06
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thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: this might be a start >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo07:07
jcoxonis it possible if someone can check if they can apt-get update07:07
jcoxoncause i'm still struggling with archive.ubuntu.com07:07
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traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: try to install the parser package manually, download here: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MS/MSERGEANT/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz07:08
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: maybe that works07:08
ubuntuhallo07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:08
ubuntuhi i try now the ubunt07:08
tritiumtrauma, eww, no...install libxml-parser-perl package07:08
H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, don't soundblaster-compatible soundcards support hardware midi?07:08
carygeneral question: is it possible to emulate a windows operating system in linux. more specifically, emulating windows with PPC architecture?07:08
ubuntui would like to ask if u know how to know the root password07:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok now i'm confused07:09
traumatritium : apt-get you mean? found the info above on a forum07:09
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: for a nicer GUI frontend to timidity install timidity-interfaces-extra and call timidity as "timidity -ig "07:09
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levanderThere is any way to mount a samba share on demand?  So that I don't have to manually remount them every time I reboot my XP box?07:09
tritiumtrauma, yes, using apt-get or aptitude, or synaptic07:09
jcoxonubuntu, there isn't one07:09
pchi. i cant delete files via nautilus anymore (error). rm still works. anyone has a clue?07:09
jcoxonubuntu, you use sudo and you're user password07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so do i download that pacakge or get it somewhere else?07:09
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: yes, if you have a card that supports hardware midi life is easier07:09
tritiumlevander, yes, that's explained on the unofficial guide07:09
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traumatritium : thx didn't know the package name07:09
tritiumtrauma, apt-cache search is your friend07:09
ubuntuok, jcoxon i will try with usdo07:09
levanderpc: check free space on your disk, nautilus doesn't delete files, it moves them to trash can07:09
ubuntusudo07:09
ubuntuexcuse me07:10
traumatritium : I'll remember07:10
tritium:)07:10
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: I suggest to try the apt-get first07:10
H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, easier how? what are the step that i should do differently?07:10
just_inisn't it sudo passwd root to create root in ubuntu?07:10
pclevander: hm was a good idea. 450M free though, should do it07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYok whats the command?07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike what am i looking for?07:10
levanderpc: how much you have in trash now?07:10
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tritiumjust_in, root account exists, but is disabled.  It doens't create the account, but rather enables it.07:10
pclevander: 007:10
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: I have a crappy onboard card so i only know about soft synth etc, sorry07:10
levanderpc: what's the error message when you try to delete?07:11
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl package (I guess)07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thanx ^_^07:11
H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, alright, do you know who should i ask about hardware midi?07:11
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: from memory you can install a sound font and use it directly without soft synth07:11
tritiumChurcH_of_FoamY, I found that package via "apt-cache search perl | grep parser"07:11
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: no problem, but not totally sure of the command07:11
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ubuntusudo execute root commands !!!07:12
levandertritium: where on the unofficial guide? it's not under samba server07:12
pclevander: well translated its something like: not on same filesystem while deleting "/home/pc/blah.gif" Continue? (skip,cancel,again)07:12
ubuntuuau!07:12
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: try  the alsa home page - I think there's info on midi there07:12
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traumatritium : I really need to get better with 'grep' commands07:12
traumatritium : sounds usefull07:12
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pclevander: oh and skip or again does nothing. errormessage still shows07:12
tritiumtrauma, absolutely ;)07:13
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H0lyD4wgthoreauputic, thanks, i will07:13
carythoreauputic, hey. been a while since i have been in here. hows it going07:13
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: yeehaa07:13
levanderpc: i'm looking at preferences that can be set for nautilus07:14
phinnaeuswhoa how didyou do that churcH_of FoamY07:14
tritiumlevander, sorry, you're right.07:14
levanderpc: you do have that partition mounted with write permissions yes?  maybe try deleting a file on another partition07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYphinnaeus put a /me infron of what ever your gonna say07:14
pclevander: the only things i could think of are users (not too smart) and automatic apt-get update and dist-upgrade07:14
thoreauputicH0lyD4wg: http://linux-sound.org/  << lots of info here07:14
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luzbelitohi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???07:14
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pclevander: home is on the / partition. i'll try another though07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamY$hit more errors >.<07:14
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phinnaeushahahah awesojme07:14
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: what errors?07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYgetting them now07:14
levanderpc: if you can delete a file with rm on the same partition, that's not it actually...07:14
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pclevander: what do you mean, that's not it?07:15
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pclevander: oh permissions you mean. yeah you're right07:15
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pclevander: it's just one of those things that always worked and for some reason not anymore now..07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/311342 is the error that poped up07:15
pclevander: interesting. deleting something from hda2 does work without errors07:16
traumak07:16
djpin the universe repos, i have come across 2 sound editors, gnusound and audacity. audacity i have heard of, but was wondering whether it was the better of the two or whether gnusound was preferred by anyone here. i basically want a program for voice recording under hoary.07:16
levanderpc: yeah, i know what you mean, i'm trying to find that gconf program I think it was called that lets you view a bunch of preferences you can set.  Can't find it.07:16
tritiumlevander, Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor07:16
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traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: think you need to install the latest versions of gtk + , gconf, libgnomeui ...07:17
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: use synaptic07:17
rift-wrkAnyone know of a CLI based disk throughput utility?07:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:17
pcgconf-editor?07:17
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traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: and don't forget the dev packages (helps for me)07:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:17
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ralchmm i screwed up the ipw2200 default drivers from ubuntu install, how do i get the drivers back?07:17
pclevander: i never remember the name either. just type gconf and TAB :)07:17
gangalinowhat version of Python should be installed for Hoary?07:17
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pcralc: how'd you "screw a driver up"?07:18
tritiumgangalino, 2.407:18
HappyFoolgangalino: 2.4, i believe07:18
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ralcpc, like deleting a bunch of the module files i believe07:18
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gangalinoI have 2.3.4 how do I upgrade apt-get upgrade python?07:18
ubuntutnak u for ur comments  "jcoxon", it works07:18
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levanderpc: i can't find anything, i'd just try googling your exact error message, all in quotes.  But, you've have to leave out anything machine specific.  Like hdd, a partition name.  You tried google.com/linux also?07:19
pcralc: always make... :P anyway i think you could just insert the cd and copy the modules to /lib/modules/something07:19
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jcoxonubuntu, np07:19
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pclevander: i translated the error, it's probably wrong :) if i know the original i07:19
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pclevander: i'd search for it too07:19
ubuntui am going to study now, see u later...07:19
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HappyFoolgangalino: that should be taken care of when you install hoary07:19
ralcpc, thanks ill try :)07:20
HappyFoolgangalino: are you running hoary currently?07:20
tritiumgangalino, ubuntu-desktop depends on python2.4.  How can you not have it?07:20
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gangalinoHappyFool: it hasn't, I'm running Hoary now. It was an upgrade from Warty07:20
seliniumHi all, can you have both x86 and amd64 versions available at boot-up?07:20
bluefoxicy~/.fullcircle07:20
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bluefoxicyanyone have that07:20
bluefoxicyas a directory07:20
pcselinium: kernel yeah, software? hmm...07:20
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ReDRooTturkce bilen biri varsa acele yardma ihtiyacm var07:20
rift-wrkAnyone know of a CLI based disk throughput utility?  I am looking for something like iptraf or similiar or gkrellm for command line to show disk activity.07:20
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gangalinoHappyFool and tritium: check #flood07:20
Dr_Willisyou could have 2 seperate installs.... but thats a little over kill07:21
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: yes, mostly to do with firefox/mozilla IIRC07:21
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  so leave it?07:21
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thoreauputicI leave mine07:21
seliniumpc How would you go about it? as it would not be an upgrade as such?07:21
gangalinoIt is a little strange07:21
pcrift-wrk: find out what gkrellm uses i think07:21
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pcselinium: what do you have now?07:22
HappyFoolgangalino: hrm. how did you upgrade?07:22
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emrawkweasel!xchat07:22
uboturumour has it, xchat is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/07:22
GigaClonI've installed all of the lua packages but my program still can't find the .so file07:22
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: I think it is version info for firefox upgrades etc07:22
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ChurcH_of_FoamYaww screw it i'll just change my bacground normally07:22
seliniumpc: i will have hoary, I am about to wipe this machine.07:22
msieradzkiyeah, updated to breezy :)07:22
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demasalve07:22
msieradzkii have found 4 bugs07:22
msieradzkione "critical"07:23
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: not working?07:23
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demahelo07:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYno just not worth it07:23
pcselinium: but x86 or amd64?07:23
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Tuxisthave a problem to install gl-dev its only virtual package when i want to install the packages, they want to remove nessesary packeges xsystem-core etc07:23
demawho ca help me?07:23
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: your choice, too bad07:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy?07:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYto bad?07:23
seliniumpc: sorry! DOH! x86 :)07:23
demasomeone can help me?07:23
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tritiumdema, just ask your question.07:23
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: I just mean it's a pity the errors didn't worked out07:24
Tuxistyes07:24
pcselinium: np. ok then you could probably just apt-get the amd64 kernel but i doubt it would do you much good07:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea07:24
demai never use linux07:24
pcselinium: if you really want both, i think you should use 2 separate installs...07:24
demaand i installed ubuntu07:24
charlyi want to know is there any temperary internet file folder in ubantu, like that in windows07:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just want to auto change my wallpaper without having to worry about kde being involved07:24
GigaClon!wiki07:24
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: what package exactly is it you want to install?07:24
seliniumpc: Give them seperate partitions?07:24
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demabut i don't know what i have to do for installing other programms07:24
pclevander: it's an error from gnome-vfs. rings any bells?07:25
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HappyFoolcharly: not exactly. i think you can browse 'about:cache' in firefox to view the cache -- or at least, some of it07:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYmybackground-properties-0.0.107:25
GigaClondema: System, Admin, Synaptic07:25
HappyFooldema: you can use a program called synaptic to install extra software07:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's supposed to auto change the bacground07:25
pcselinium: yes 2 complete different installs. only the kernel won't give much of an advantage i think. but then again, you'll have 2 installs...07:25
GigaClonSystem --> Admin --> Synaptic Package manager07:25
HappyFooldema: there's lots of information on the ubuntu wiki about this07:25
HappyFool!apt07:25
ubotusomebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/07:25
HappyFool!repositories07:25
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:25
HappyFool!synaptic07:25
ubotumethinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:25
seliniumpc: thanks for the pointers! I am off to wipe my hd :)07:25
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bluefoxicyrm -rf ~/.distcc/ ~/.ed2k_gui/ ~/.gentoo/ ~/.giFT ~/.gkrellm2/ ~/.gimp-2.0/ ~/.gMUDix/ ~/.gnome-mud/ ~/.gpilotd ~/.gstreamer-0.7/ ~/.gtk-gnutella.* ~/.jpi_cache/ ~/.legacy/ ~/.links/ ~/.mcop/ ~/.mmaker/menu-XFdesktop4 ~/.overnet/ ~/.porthole/ ~/.phoenix ~/.qt/ ~/.subversion/ ~/.xpde/07:26
demaok thank you07:26
HappyFooldema: you can start at those three web pages -- should give you an idea07:26
bluefoxicyanyone see anything crucial?07:26
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: can't find anything of it on google. I guess it's not well maintained07:26
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luzbelitohi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???07:26
ChurcH_of_FoamY well that answers alot of questions ^_^ lol07:26
pcselinium: k, good luck07:26
traumaChurcH_of_FoamY: small chance that a 0.01 would work out well07:26
tritiumluzbelito, did you do the search I told you, and then try one of those programs?07:26
Tuxisti need this gl-dev to compile amarok07:26
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: why the hell are you doing this crazy thing?07:26
luzbelitoyes tritium07:27
luzbelitobut wich program i must choose ?07:27
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bluefoxicythoreauputic:  spring cleaning after 10 distros and 500 reinstalls07:27
luzbelitoroot@lenin:/ # apt-cache search dvd | grep rip07:27
luzbelitodrip - GNOME application for encoding a DivX from a DVD07:27
luzbelitodvdbackup - Tool to rip DVD's from the command line07:27
luzbelitoacidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder07:27
luzbelitodvdrip - perl front end for transcode07:27
luzbelitodvdrip-doc - Documentation for dvd::rip07:27
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: you are wiping out all your personal config07:27
luzbelitoksubtitleripper - GUI for KDE to rip DVD subtitles07:27
luzbelitoripmake - an automatic command line ripping makefile generator for transcode07:27
luzbelitosubtitleripper - DVD Subtitle Ripper for Linux07:27
luzbelitovideo-dvdrip-doc - Documentation for dvd::rip - dummy package07:27
luzbelitoopppps07:27
HappyFoolluzbelito: c'mon, please don't spam07:27
luzbelitosorrryyyy07:27
luzbelito:-(07:27
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  no, I have a lot of other shit.  I have gstreamer 0.8 and gimp 2.2 now, but I have old config for gstreamer 0.7 and gimp 2.007:27
thoreauputicluzbelito:  read the /topic for heaven's sake07:27
luzbelitosorry me please07:27
gangalinoHappyFool: I used the instructions from ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21916.html07:27
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  apps I don't have anymore because they were shit :)07:28
luzbelitoi dont wanna paste it here07:28
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bluefoxicythoreauputic:  and backups of my config files that I no longer need.07:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know a good way to start scripting?07:28
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  and some shit I don't use that somehow got there :>07:28
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tritiumluzbelito, you've got to choose one based on what you want to do.  Your question is cryptic.  what is play2?07:28
Tuxist :-(07:28
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: OK - well I guess you know what you are doing then, sorry07:28
charlyok,one more thing i want to know please tell i how can download a flash presentation from a website like a pdf document07:28
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luzbelitoplay2 = playstation 2 games07:28
=== ChurcH_of_FoamY wants to build my own wallpaper changer ^_^
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  well some of it I dunno what it is, like ~/.legacy or jpi-cache07:28
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luzbelitothey are encoded. you cant copy with normal programs. in windows you can use dvd shrink07:29
luzbelitoi don know in linux07:29
Tuxistqdvdripper07:29
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thoreauputicbluefoxicy: why not back up instead of deleting, then you can see which ones you need07:29
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bluefoxicythoreauputic:  *shrug* :o  heh07:29
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AerebusI'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?07:30
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tritiumluzbelito, you might try dvdbackup07:30
rift-wrkhey pc07:30
rift-wrkdon't they have some sort of cli thing for gtk and gtk+07:30
luzbelitook wait me07:30
rift-wrki remeber seeing that in the past just not sure what it is called07:30
HappyFoolgangalino: are you a regular vi user?07:30
luzbelitothanks07:30
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rift-wrkmaybe I can use that with gkrellm for it07:30
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HappyFoolgangalino: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood?07:31
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HappyFoolTuxist: what is the exact package you want to install?07:31
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: in other window managers you could write a simple script that changed your background every 2 minutes or whatever - gnome is ...erm.... special. So is KDE I guess07:31
Tuxistamarok07:31
gangalinoHappyFool: OK07:32
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<07:32
Tuxisti want to compile it from cvs07:32
tritiumTuxist, why not install it then?07:32
Tuxistamarok 1.307:32
HappyFoolTuxist: i meant, the libgl one07:32
Tuxistwhen i tried to install them07:32
HappyFoolTuxist: you could try 'apt-get build-dep amarok'07:32
Tuxistrecent package want to remove07:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamn is there an alternative to useing KDE i want to do this in gnome07:32
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: I bet someone has written one - have you googled for it?07:32
Dr_WillisHmm.. I thought gnome and kde both had a 'change the wallpaper every so often' feature built in.07:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea nothin that i can find07:33
HappyFoolTuxist: please tell me the name of the dev package07:33
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Tuxistlibgl-dev07:33
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Tuxistis virtual package07:33
luzbelitotritum: could you pls send me a private msg for help me in dvdbackup? thanks07:33
demaok..if i want a program that i have just download07:33
demaed07:33
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demafor example07:33
demai downloaded amule07:34
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: first hit on google: http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ubuntu.html07:34
demaand now i have a folder on desktop07:34
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thoreauputica script for random changes of wallpaper07:34
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HappyFoolTuxist: what does 'apt-cache show libgl-dev|grep ^Section' say ?07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy google must be dumb then >.< or me07:34
tritiumluzbelito, sorry, I've never used it.  Try installing it and reading the manpage and documentation.07:34
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Tuxisti type apt-get build-dep amarok07:34
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=linux+gnome+wallpaper+changer+script&btnG=Google+Search&meta=07:35
Tuxisti hope it run now07:35
demawhat can i do to install?07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:35
charlyHappyFool: i want to know how can i download a flash presentation in the website to my home folder like downloading a PDF file.07:35
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HappyFoolTuxist: my apt-cache search does not find a 'libgl-dev'07:35
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Tuxistyes07:35
HappyFoolcharly: i don't know, sorry.07:35
gm78Hey all. I just broke my last keyboard, so i pulled an old logitech keyboard out of the closet. it has a lot of things like volume control, but they dont work in gnome. is there anyway i can make these kinds of things work in gnome?07:35
HappyFoolcharly: try 'View source' and use wget on the url -- bit hacky, but the best I can think of07:36
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TuxistPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig07:36
TuxistAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig07:36
TuxistPakete libgl-dev ist ein virtuelles Pakete, das bereitgestellt wird von:07:36
Tuxist  mesag3+ggi-dev 5.0.0-5.107:36
Tuxist  mesag-glide2-dev 5.0.0-5.107:36
Tuxist  mesag-dev 5.0.0-5.107:36
Tuxist  xlibmesa-gl-dev 6.8.2-1007:36
TuxistSie sollten eines explizit zum Installieren auswhlen.07:36
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TuxistE: Paket libgl-dev hat keinen Installationskandidaten07:36
Tuxistroot@work2:/home/jan #07:36
tritiumTuxist, don't paste07:36
sobersabretrying to install ubuntu with serial keyboard. it locks up.07:36
Tuxistok07:36
HappyFoolhm. does apt-cache not show virtual packages?07:36
HappyFoolit shows all the linux-related ones07:36
sobersabrewhat shall write on the CD boot prompt ?07:37
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Tuxisti have the same problem07:37
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charlyif u found anything that is working inform me through mail07:37
paineshi07:37
tritiumHappyFool, it shows all of them07:37
HappyFooltritium: i thought as much07:37
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: hint: use linux+gnome+keywords or linux+KDE+ keywords etc07:37
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Tuxisthave already compile amarok cvs version in this chat07:37
painesanyone know if there are pho5 packages for ubuntu07:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYohhh ok thanx07:37
painespho5=php507:38
tritiumnow that you said pho, I'm hungry for noodle soup ;)07:38
gangalinoHappyFool: it's there in #flood07:38
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Hanna_and i need some coffee.07:39
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sobersabrehmmm anybody... heeeelp/07:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwill this work for my gnome? Gnome 1.4.07:39
Tuxistok i send you some coffee.07:39
sobersabrecannot install ubuntu!07:39
Tuxistcmail07:39
sobersabreserial keyboard07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYhint i have no idea what my gonme is >.<07:39
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: gnome 1.4 is ancient history07:40
Hanna_secure coffee protocol.07:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok i have a curent ubuntu install whats the version of gnome?07:40
sobersabreHanna_, it is salty coffee protocol.07:40
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: 2.1007:40
Tuxisti register scp by sf.net now07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk thanx07:40
tritiumChurcH_of_FoamY, go to "System->About Gnome" ;)07:40
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steffenhi, has anybody installed klibido, the usenet binarie downloader under ubuntu?07:40
Hieronymus!info gnome07:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYok sweet07:41
ubotugnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 62ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 40 kB07:41
Sonderbladewhy does ubuntu insist on using stupid -dev packages?07:41
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Dr_WillisSonderblade,  cant say thta ive ever noticed it insisting on that.07:41
tritiumSonderblade, because not everybody needs header files07:41
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thoreauputicSonderblade: erm... dev packages are needed for compiling07:41
AerebusI'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?07:41
Sonderblade-dev packages makes it painful to manually install stuff07:41
tritiumSonderblade, why would you say that?07:42
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husherAerbus: what's your windows network look like?07:42
thoreauputicSonderblade: you shouldn't need to manually install stuff, and I suggest you look into the apt-get build-dep command if you must07:42
naliothSonderblade: -dev pkgs allow other programs to be compiled to use features of hte program with the -dev pkgs07:42
Aerebushusher, what do you mean?07:42
naliothAerebus: describe the windows machines on your network07:43
husherAerebus: like, is it a 2000 server with a domain, or just a workgroup, or what07:43
Sonderbladethoreauputic, sometimes that's not possible07:43
Aerebusi have 2 windows machines on the network along with thix unbuntu box, both windows machines are win xp pro07:43
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husherAerebus: where does dns come from? are you running wins?07:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow the hel do you run a perl script?07:43
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Dr_Willistime to read some perl tutorials.07:44
Tuxistcan anybody in this chat compile amarok cvs and send me .deb ;-)07:44
husherChurcH_of_FoamY: ./'script'07:44
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thoreauputicSonderblade: well, if you are compiling you need to read the apt howto and see how apt can make your life easier for dev packages07:44
Aerebushusher, everything is networked thru a  router, ....1.2 ....1.3 etc07:44
Dr_Willis:P that will be in chapter 1. First line of a perl script should be #!/usr/bin/perl   then you can chmod +x it. and run it as any other prog.07:44
yahalomi'm trying to apt-get install xfce4 and i keep getting this error: saying i need to try --fix-missing but it doesnt fix it. i cant download it.07:44
yahalomany ideas?07:44
husherAerebus: static ips?07:44
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Tuxistapt-get -f install07:44
naliothTuxist: be careful of waht you ask for, you may get a amarok for a PPC G507:44
Sonderbladethoreauputic, but i thought ubuntu was user friendly07:45
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: chmod +x <script> ; ./scriptname07:45
husheranybody here get sounds to work in x-chat?  i can't seem to.07:45
Tuxistno x8607:45
yahalomTuxist, still not07:45
Aerebushusher, i believe so my isp has a static ip and i have ips set to manual, non dhcp07:45
naliothyahalom: are u using us.archive.ubuntu in your sources.list?07:45
thoreauputicSonderblade: it is - compiling isn't something most users need to do07:45
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Panzerboyany idea how can i replace postfix in my system with esmtp?07:45
naliothSonderblade: ubuntu is user friendly, but it is still *nix07:45
Tuxistmy 4 p3 rocks07:45
Panzerboyi don't need a full featured mta07:45
sobersabrecan sombody help: need to install ubuntu over serial keyboard ... is there something i need to pass to the kernel ?07:45
Panzerboyjust a small mta to use mutt07:46
yahalomnalioth, yes07:46
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husherAerebus: then try adding the ip addresses of the other 2 machines in your linux boxen's /etc/hosts file07:46
naliothyahalom: see what Tuxist said above07:46
Panzerboyright now when i try to install esmtp-run apt-get wants to remove ubuntu-base07:46
thoreauputicSonderblade: usually we find people compiling things that are already available anyway, but they haven't looked in the right places07:46
Panzerboyand i'm not sure this is good :)07:46
yahalomnalioth, i did it. nothing.07:46
Panzerboyso ... any ideas ? :D07:46
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DanielHolthHello ubuntuites. I'm trying to install firefox extensions, so I upgraded to one called 'firefox' instead of 'mozilla-firefox', version reports 1.0.4 in about, and I did the workaround. Still, it complains things like FeedView are not valid packages.07:46
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naliothyahalom: you ran from a terminal "sudo apt-get -f install" and nothing happened??07:46
yahalomTuxist, that repo has no x86?07:47
Aerebushusher, whats the files name? can i gedit /etc/file ?07:47
Sonderbladethoreauputic, you shouldn't need to look in the right places07:47
Tuxisti know07:47
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thoreauputicSonderblade: what are you trying to compile?07:47
yahalomnalioth, it just says 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.07:47
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yahalomnalioth, u can figure out what that means right ?;)07:47
husherAerebus: the file is named /etc/hosts, and yes, you can, as root (or 'sudo gedit /etc/hosts'), but i reccomend reading the man page first07:47
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Sonderbladethoreauputic, anjuta07:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYCouldn't open /home/shane/backs.txt at ./randomback2.pl line 60. >.<07:48
Tuxist g5 = power4 cpu ;-)07:48
naliothyahalom: so now do a "sudo apt-get install xfce4"07:48
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thoreauputicSonderblade: and that's a silly statement - even in Windows you have to know where to look07:48
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Tuxistp4 is a cool cpu07:48
thoreauputicSonderblade: anjuta is avsailable in synaptic07:48
DanielHolthOh nevermind firefox started working again.07:48
tritiumSonderblade, you should need to know what you're doing.  That IS a silly statement.07:48
DanielHolthFeedview is good.07:48
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, messing with your hosts file can shut you down quickly07:48
pw2subzhi, how can i start 3ddesktop?07:48
DanielHolthand "I must not fear" an essential extension.07:48
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yahalomnalioth, still no. it says the same thign again: --fix-missing07:48
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Dr_WillisDanielHolth,  I like that "Stumbler" add on.07:49
Sonderbladethoreauputic, i know but not the latest version07:49
yahalomTuxist, what is wrong with us.archive?07:49
Aerebushusher, may i pm you oly for a sec?07:49
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth so was there any damage done?07:49
Aerebusonly*07:49
naliothyahalom: have you looked at "man apt-get"?07:49
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thoreauputicSonderblade: if you are using anjuta I wpuld think you would know how to compile in Linux, no?07:49
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husherAerebus: sure07:49
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: idk, did you edit your /etc/hosts w/o any idea what you were doing?07:50
yahalomnalioth, man i know how to use apt-get.07:50
Tuxistwhat you want from me07:50
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thoreauputicSonderblade: it *is* a development app, is it not?07:50
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naliothyahalom: well, have you --fixed-missing?07:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth diden't touch that file to my knowledge07:50
Sonderbladethoreauputic, i know how to compile, it is just that in some distros you don't have to go through the pains of -dev packages to do it07:50
yahalomnalioth, man. look i typed sudo apt-get install --fix-missing that right, no? it doesnt do anything. it says nothing new installed blahbblah blah07:51
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: good, because your hosts file can be a very powerful friend, if used correctly07:51
tritiumSonderblade, sure you do.  All distributions have packages that contain development libraries and header files.07:51
abbot45im getting an error all of the sudden when i try to run iPodder.  "/usr/bin/iPodder: line 4: 30266 Segmentation fault      python iPodderGui.py"07:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth cool i want it to be my freind i also want random wallpaper changes07:51
Tuxisti want to get the new amarok07:52
yahalomTuxist, ???07:52
Tuxistyes07:52
steffenhi, one question how can i make kdm as the default logon screen?07:52
naliothyahalom: "sudo apt-get --fix-missing xfce4"07:52
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thoreauputicSonderblade: that's why I mentioned apt-get build-dep. There is also auto-apt and a whole lot of other goodies you haven't learnt about, apparently - apt-get install apt-howto would be a good start :)07:52
Tuxistdpkg-reconfigure07:52
flexs[prog] hello...07:52
Sonderbladetritium, gentoo doesnt07:52
tritiumsteffen, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm", and choose kdm as the default07:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: have you gotten to the "ranwp.sh" yet?07:52
hushernalioth: i'm helping Aerebus with his /etc/hosts file, if that's what you're thinking07:52
tritiumSonderblade, sure it does07:52
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Panzerboylol07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth um no don't remember that i was supposed to07:52
naliothhusher: well, ChurcH_of_FoamY was hollering somethin about hosts, too07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<07:52
PanzerboyWHAT is this ubuntu-base package after all?07:52
steffen* Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                            [fail] 07:53
Panzerboydpgk -L ubuntu-base only shows a bunch of files in /usr/share/doc07:53
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: google the following "ranwp.sh gnome"07:53
steffenthis is the message07:53
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tritiumPanzerboy, apt-cache show ubuntu-base07:53
hushernalioth: ok07:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk07:53
flexs[prog] can i install on ubuntu web server (Apache+PHP+MySQL)07:53
Panzerboynamely 2: copyright and changelog.gz07:53
naliothflexs[prog] : surely07:53
naliothflexs[prog] : wiki.ubuntu.com//NewUserGuide07:53
yahalomnalioth, ok i take it back i dont know how to use apt-get. thanx for ur patience. going to read man apt now.07:54
abbot45im getting an error all of the sudden when i try to run iPodder.  "/usr/bin/iPodder: line 4: 30266 Segmentation fault      python iPodderGui.py."  Whats going on?07:54
Panzerboyhmm07:54
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Panzerboyso is it SAFE to remove it in order to install esmtp ?07:54
tritiumPanzerboy, did you read what I suggested?  yes, it's safe.  It's just a metapackage.07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth ok i found this page http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=6907:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYis this what i want to work wioth07:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYwith07:55
Panzerboytritium: i read it, i just wanted to be sure07:55
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luzbelitocan anyone help me with dvd rip? it says next error: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so", at /usr/share/perl5/Video/DVDRip/GUI/Main.pm line 4907:55
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Panzerboytritium: i don't want to fuck up mu box07:55
tritiumPanzerboy, just heed the warning, particularly when you go to upgrade to breezy07:55
Panzerboyi understand07:55
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, you can read about it, d/l it, and use it if you wish07:55
steffentritium, you german?07:55
Panzerboytritium: thanks a lot07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYoooh ok07:55
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^07:55
tritiumPanzerboy, sure.  When you go to upgrade to breezy, you'll want ubuntu-base installled again.07:55
Panzerboytritium: when I will upgrade to breezy, i will install it again :)07:55
tritiumsteffen, no, why?07:55
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naliothPanzerboy: as long as you have all your metapkgs 'installed' when you up to breezy, you'll be fine07:55
tritiumPanzerboy, :)07:55
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Panzerboytritium: :)07:55
Tuxist:----;07:56
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Panzerboynalioth: i'll write it down somewhere that I need to re-install ubuntu-base when I will upgrade ! :)07:56
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gangalinoHappyFool: did you notice anything strange?07:56
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steffentritium: i think about your irc profile, my fault ^^, but i doenst work when i started dpkg-rek...07:56
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steffentritium: it says reload failed07:57
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tritiumsteffen, you have a problem with kdm, apparently.  Have you asked in #kubuntu?  Also, if you prefer to chat in german, there is #ubuntu-de07:57
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steffenah okay i go to kubuntu ;-)07:58
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flexs[prog] that sudo command is good.... with sudo i can do what i want....08:00
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nalioth flexs[prog]  all that you want all the way to a clean hard drive, lol08:00
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flexs[prog] nalioth i don't want delet my harddrive... :))08:00
naliothflexs[prog] : then be careful with "sudo"08:01
flexs[prog] ok i try to install apache+php+mysql....08:01
naliothflexs[prog] : did ya find the howto?08:02
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flexs[prog] i want build web server from source....08:02
naliothflexs[prog] : thats admirable. the link i sent you can give you some idea of how it goes08:03
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flexs[prog] nalioth : thanx for help... now i now how can i install librarys....08:03
naliothflexs[prog] : use synaptic08:03
flexs[prog] nalioth : what is synaptic08:04
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naliothflexs[prog] : System > Admin > synaptic package manager   (at the top left)08:05
yahalomi keep getting MD5 sum errors when apt getting things. any idea? especially with xfce.08:05
yahalomit's been happening quite a bit lately.08:05
cmathesonyahalom: don't use the us sources in your sources.list08:05
naliothyahalom: edit your sources.list. remove the us. from us.archive.blah on all the lines with it08:06
yahalomcmatheson, thats it? delete it, or just remove the us part?08:06
yahalomok got it.08:06
yahalomthanx guys08:06
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cmathesonyahalom: yeah, just delete the us portion... (so it's just archive.ubuntu.com)08:06
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vanlalUmm Guys... What's the default root password?08:08
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Bubbling_Zombiethere isn't one08:08
Bubbling_Zombieuse sudo08:08
vanlalI don't remember setting up a root account when I installed08:08
vanlalyeah but sudo demands a password08:08
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Bubbling_Zombiethat's the pasword of your current account08:09
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vanlalah ... silly me . Thanks08:09
Bubbling_Zombienp08:09
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Kutterkoeterhi guys08:09
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yahalomcmatheson, what happened. the servers are abandoned?08:10
naliothyahalom: the us servers have been havin some troubles in transmission lately08:10
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yahalomnalioth, unknown reason?08:10
naliothyahalom: unknown to me08:10
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yahalomnalioth, :(08:11
Kutterkoeterone question, how can i configure my adsl modem with the live-cd ? there is no possibility to select eth0 in the networking section...08:11
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sledmouthhi, what is the easiest 802.11x usb dongle for ubuntu on ibook g408:11
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luzbelitoone question, how can i play dvd on ubuntu? i downloaded all packages, plug ins but totem says can't open dvd://  ????08:11
Tuxista good cigarete that was what i need08:11
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KyralGAAAH! Anyone know a good Pop-Under Blocker for Firefox?08:12
Tuxistuse konqueror08:12
Bubbling_Zombiethe embedded one Kyral ?08:12
KyralAin't working :P08:12
flexs[prog] nalioth : say how can i set that on start-up computer runs my webserver, i don't want run it manual.....08:12
MrMaDSeNit is here08:12
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naliothflexs[prog] : i only know of System > Preferences > Sessions, but i'm sure you will want a different way08:15
aioi've got a 1920x1200 display, but when I play Unreal Tournament, my graphics card is only fast enough to do something like 800x600.  Anyway I can stretch this out to cover more of the screen (even if it's blockier)?08:16
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Tuxistati card inside ?08:16
aioyeah - x300 mobility08:17
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husheraio: get a better card? :)08:17
Tuxistthats the problem08:17
naliothKyral: i suggest you research "adblock hosts" using google08:17
husherTuxist: ati cards aren't that bad08:17
Tuxistnvidia is only useful under linux08:17
Tuxistyes08:17
aiohusher well, but mobility that implies laptop (which this is), so that makes it harder and more expensive08:17
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husheraio: ah.  bummer.08:18
DanielHolthHi check out /etc/fonts/*.conf --- new X11 fonts installed should end up there automatically? Correct? But they never do. Across a range of distributions I have to edit /etc/fonts/local.conf to get my new fonts (terminus-x11) to work.08:18
sledmouthanyone using ubuntu on amd64?08:18
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aioTuxist the nvidia card option for this laptop was $200 more and i didn't really plan on gaming....08:18
DanielHolthBut perhaps there is an automatic /etc/fonts/*.conf editing mechanism which I can avail myself of.08:18
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gm78sledmouth, no, but ive helped plenty of people that were, do u have a question?08:18
Tuxistati linux = microsoft opensource08:18
aioany way to scale it so it stretches to fill the whole screen?08:18
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gm78Tuxist, lol08:18
aioTuxist ?08:18
Ramiro#ubuntu-es08:18
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aioTuxist oh - ok08:19
aiogot it.08:19
gm78aio, oxymoron08:19
husherTuxist: i personally don't care if the drivers are open source, so long as they work.08:19
gm78:P08:19
Tuxistwhat is08:19
ankan_hey guys...i had a samba question08:19
aiohusher ditto that...08:19
gm78husher, lol, neither do most people, but thats just the thing. their drivers dont work for most people08:19
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Wa77zhey guys, you think that 256 mb of ram is enough to run ubuntu ?08:19
aioactually, the open source ati drivers outperform these fglrx 3d drivers in 2d...08:19
coobrayes08:19
Kyralyes08:19
gm78husher, not nearly as well as nvidia's anyways08:19
ermoWa77z, it is for me.08:19
aioWa77z depends on what you're doing.08:20
Wa77zwell, i am seeing some system slow downs, itws really shitty08:20
aioi feel shorted at 512MB08:20
Wa77zya, i have trouble openeing apps and shit08:20
Tuxistati linux driver really bad08:20
ankan_even after editing my smb.conf file to my workgroup, the samba still fails to join my workgroup08:20
hushergm78: i'll sacrifice a little performance for a lot cheaper notebook with a better screen, personally08:20
aioTuxist ati proprietary linux drivers are really bad.  the open source ones aren't too bad.08:20
hushergm78: but that's only my preference, I agree they're not as good as nvidia08:20
Tuxistthat allright08:20
gm78husher, lol, true enough. same here, but for my desktop, nvidia is the only thing i will buy at this point in time. that might change in the future. ati makes good cards, its just their opengl support sucks08:21
Wa77zWTF is a ppp client08:21
aioTuxist and actually, the newest fglrx drivers from ati are better than the ones bundled in hoary.08:21
husherWa77z: point-to-point protocol, for dial-up08:21
Wa77zgotcha, thanks08:21
ankan_even after editing my smb.conf file to my workgroup, the samba still fails to join my workgroup08:22
husheraio, really, i'll download them, thanks08:22
gangalinoTritium: any ideas on my Hoary version?08:22
ankan_anybody has any sugestions08:22
ankan_??08:22
Tuxistthe problem is ati and nvidia dont release technicles documetions about the cards08:22
Wa77zi cant wait till i get a gig of ram08:22
aiohusher yeah - uninstall your fglrx drivers first, then install.  better 3d and 2d, but it's still not there yet.  i'm trying to get in touch with ati about that....08:22
husheraio: good luck with that.08:23
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Wa77zanyways, if my mouse is moving kinda of laggy, is that a lack of ram or a config problem08:24
husherWa77z: are you running a bunch of apps?08:25
naliothWa77z: if you suspect a lack of ram, it probably is, lol08:25
luzbelitocan anyone help me to run dvd on linux ?08:25
aioluzbelito what problem are you having?08:25
Wa77zaight, well, i get some lag when i am installing apps08:25
Wa77zand sometimes when opening08:26
aiois your machine recognizing the dvd, but just not playing it?08:26
Wa77zjust normal usage08:26
husherWa77z: sounds more like processor lag than ram08:26
Wa77zhmm08:26
naliothWa77z: sounds like a systemic lack or resources (perhaps a lighterweight desktop manager)08:26
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Wa77zu mean besides gnome ?08:26
aioWa77z but if he's short on ram and swapping like crazy, it *could* make the mouse a little jerky...08:26
naliothWa77z: yes, like sfce4 or enlightenment08:27
Wa77zi didnt know there was nay besiedes gnome and kde08:27
husherWa77z: yes, like fluxbox08:27
zenroxxfce408:27
Wa77zsweet08:27
naliothWa77z: but, as i said, if you suspect lack of ram, it probably is08:27
aioWa77z or you could be a real man and go raw console08:27
zenroxxfce4 is really easy to install08:27
Wa77zlol08:27
aiowho needs graphics anyways?08:27
Wa77zthis is my first distro08:27
husherthere's no such thing as too much ram :)08:27
Wa77zi been running linux for about two days08:28
naliothhusher: hear! hear!08:28
Wa77z= P08:28
Tuxisthttp://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/08:28
naliothWa77z: welcome to freedom08:28
Wa77zlol08:28
Wa77zi like a lot08:28
JowiWa77z, my 1Ghz machine (512mb ram) also lags while installing software. perfectly normal since synaptic make my CPU work at 100% during installation.08:28
Wa77zthat makes me feel better08:28
gm78Wa77z, lol, there are god knows how many different window managers. enlightenment is pretty neat08:28
Wa77zill check it out08:29
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naliothWa77z: or as aio pointed out, "who needs graphics anyway?"08:29
Wa77z= )08:29
ompaulnalioth, people who think that is what computing is about :)08:29
sledmouthxfce4 is the best08:29
husherGUIs make you soft, I always say08:29
aioWa77z step up to the plate - be a real man - ditch the little rat thing with a cable - who needs it?08:29
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aioi'm running bitchx for my irc client right now.08:30
jeewindow managers / desktops http://xwinman.org/08:30
naliothwell, i can go both ways08:30
gangalinotritium: ??08:30
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Wa77zim tryin08:30
olashort stupid question.. is umask=002 the same as 0664 ?08:30
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ompaulaio is that hard enough?08:30
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thoreauputicola: for files, yes08:30
aioWa77z just kidding - i think gnome is great and fluxbox is pretty cool if you only have a small amount of ram08:31
thoreauputicola: for directories, subtract from 77708:31
aioompaul bah - give him a chisel and a stone :-)08:31
olathoreauputic, and for folders?08:31
thoreauputicola: see above08:31
olathanks..08:31
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Wa77zBTW, is there a sudo apt-get install command for a new desktop enviorment, or is that something ill need to do on my own08:31
ompaulaio that is too helpful point him at two stones :)08:31
aioompaul and an abacus if he really needs to do calculations08:31
olathoreauputic: but it works exactly the opposit..08:32
ola(i have done something stupid)08:32
thoreauputicola: ?08:32
hyphenatedola: the mask is applied to the permissions desired when a file is created. so it depends ;-)08:32
naliothWa77z: you can apt-get almost everything you need08:32
aioompaul or along those lines, you *could* give him a distribution that has to compile everything :-)08:32
hyphenatedgenerally, you can go with what thoreauputic said08:32
husherWa77z: yes, sudo apt-get install 'whatever manager'08:32
ompaulaio, na he aint got that much time to waste08:32
Wa77zsweet08:32
zenroxWa77z,  read the forum for howtos to install alternate wms08:32
husherWa77z: check pacakges,ubuntu.com for a list08:32
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olai try to set 0664 on vsftpd files that users can upload.. the folders get 0775 but the files 0600.. its strange08:33
aioWa77z if you're new to linux, i'd highly recommend taking a peek at synaptic for package management08:33
Wa77zim lookin at some unofficial starter guide right now too08:33
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Kyral!wiki08:33
naliothWa77z: not the ubuntuguide, i hope?08:33
Kyral!ubuntuguide08:33
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.08:33
Quest-MasterBah.08:34
naliothKyral: try !ubguide for another msg08:34
Wa77zkk08:34
Quest-MasterUbuntuguide is just fine. :<08:34
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zenrox!unguide08:34
Kyral!ubguide08:34
ubotuzenrox: I don't know08:34
uboturumour has it, ubguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.08:34
naliothWa77z: the ubuntuguide will lead you into trouble08:34
Seveasubotu wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com - the one and only True Source of Information08:34
Quest-MasterIt won't. ;d08:34
Wa77zthe unofficial one08:34
Wa77z ???08:34
naliothKyral: damn they changed it08:34
husherhas no one else here had problems with the sound output in xchat?08:34
zenroxif you dont understand whats going on08:34
AndyRso whats so wrong with ubuntuguide?08:34
Quest-MasterNothing, IMO08:34
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itzif i delete items with sudo and nothing gets to the wastebin and the disk is still showing like 3gb left what to do? where is "root" wastebin?08:35
AndyRive always found it fine08:35
SeveasAndyR, read the page...08:35
naliothWa77z: stay away from ubuntuguide until you are lots more familiar with *nix08:35
naliothAndyR: read the link given by ubotu08:35
Quest-MasterAndyR: Agreed.08:35
Seveasitz, you delete with nautilus  run as root?08:35
Wa77zaight thanks for the tip08:35
naliothitz: if you del with sudo, the items are GONE08:35
Seveasnalioth, no :)08:35
thoreauputicQuest-Master: if you hang around here for a while you will see the horror stories from ubuntuguide when people blindly follow it08:35
Seveasthere is .trash-root in your homedir then :)08:36
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Quest-Masterthoreauputic: There can be horror stories simply when installing Ubuntu too, you know.08:36
Kyral<Kyral> You will feel at peace as you no longer fight with multiple virii. You will be freed from buying software08:36
naliothSeveas: assuming you can only run sudo at a terminal, if you use sudo to remove something, it's gone08:36
Kyral<Kyral> Use Linux, your computer will thank you08:36
KyralI think I'm tripping on something here08:36
itzSeveas, i cant find it?!!?08:36
KyralI'm turning into some sorta Linux Priest08:36
Seveasitz, if you simply use rm, it's gone08:36
thoreauputicQuest-Master: sure, but not from a source that new people think is authoritative08:36
ompaulKyral, na it is more a ubuntu love fest08:36
itzSeveas, yeah but if i didnt how do i do now?08:37
KyralI want to get a tatoo of the UbuntuLogo on my hand08:37
Seveaslol Kyral :)08:37
thoreauputicQuest-Master: ubuntuguide is fine if you can read scripts a bit and know Debian etc08:37
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itzIn mandrake there is a root wastebin...08:37
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Hieronymus!tell itz ubuntuwiki08:37
itzHieronymus, ? :D08:38
Quest-Masterthoreauputic: Nobody said Ubuntuguide was authoritative. It's simply an easy source to get information too without having to sift through explanations and various choices when you simply want to, say, install Java. The instructions on Ubuntuguide are much more straight-forward than the one on the wiki.08:38
Igg-man!tell Igg-man ibuntuwiki08:38
naliothitz: depending on how you have your ubuntu set up, there may be multiple .Trash dirs08:38
itzcan i serach them perhaps?08:38
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naliothQuest-Master: that, however is changing08:38
itzi mean it should be at least 15gb in it now so08:38
Seveasitz find / -iname trash08:38
thoreauputicQuest-Master: <quote>  that new people think is authoritative </unquote>08:38
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H0lyD4wgWhat should I do if I installed Ubuntu on one computer, then moved the HD to another computer with different HDs and soundcards and other hardware, and i want it to behave like it would if i originally installed it on the second computer?08:39
thoreauputicQuest-Master: question of perceptions08:39
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Quest-MasterI don't see anything wrong with giving people choice.08:39
Quest-Master:P08:39
Wa77zi am in synaptc package manger riight now, all i need is the enlightenment window manger  right ? no addons or anything08:39
aioH0lyD4wg i'd reinstall.  *maybe* it'd work if you just plugged in the hard drive....08:39
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thoreauputicQuest-Master: as i said, ubuntuguide is fine for people who already have some clues, but we see lots of trip ups from those who don't: thus, I'm cautious about recommending some of it at least08:40
Quest-Masterk.08:40
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gm78Wa77z, which version is listed for enlightenment?08:40
Quest-MasterMost people are simply saying don't recommend it any longer, and the wiki is all-knowing and perfect for all use.08:41
thoreauputicQuest-Master: I use it too - but I know where the pitfalls are, mostly08:41
Wa77zlast question, once u have enlightenment installed, do you need to enable it as ur default window manager or anything, or is that automatic - it doesnt say the version. i must be looking in the wrong spot08:41
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naliothQuest-Master: the wiki is less likely to trip up new users08:41
flexs[prog] nalioth : i don't have glib-2.0 package how can i install it ?08:41
naliothWa77z: choose it at your login using the 'sessions' button08:41
thoreauputicQuest-Master: i think it's a bit extreme to say it should never be used, agreed08:41
naliothflexs[prog] : ues synaptic08:41
Wa77znvm - its 1 :0 .16.308:42
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Quest-Masternalioth: That might be subjective. I made my Ubuntu completely "usable" with codecs and Flash and all of that good stuff using Ubuntuguide, never had any problems.08:42
Wa77zthats what it says under version, in synaptic08:42
Quest-Masterthoreauputic: :)08:42
naliothQuest-Master: and how long have you been using *nix?08:42
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HieronymusQuest-Master: flash isn't good stuff08:43
Quest-Masternalioth: Mid-late last year.08:43
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SDFH_Linuxhm08:43
Bubbling_Zombieflash is evil08:43
Quest-MasterHieronymus: I know, I've removed it now, hehe.08:43
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SDFH_Linuxi used debian with linuxant driver08:43
SDFH_Linuxand it was never this fast with ubuntu with ndiswrapper08:43
Quest-Masternalioth: I had a bit of Linux experience with SUSE before-hand. A week I believe, before the Ubuntu installation.08:43
SDFH_Linuxthis is like getting 100% signal08:43
flexs[prog] nalooth : i don't have glib in synaptic08:44
SDFH_Linuxwasnt like this with debian and the linuxant driver08:44
SDFH_Linuxwhy guys?08:44
thoreauputicQuest-Master: a month or so ago I spent hours fixing troubles that stemmed from advice on that site: mostly the problems have been fixed, but still we get people who have broken their apt systems etc08:44
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SDFH_Linuxis it more of a ndiswrapper thing vs linuxant?08:44
Bubbling_Zombiei use ndiswrapper with debian. works like a charm08:44
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Quest-MasterI see.08:44
Bubbling_Zombieindeed SDFH_Linux08:44
SDFH_Linuxso its a ndiswrapper thing08:44
flexs[prog] nalioth : can i download glib from ubunto server, or else ?08:44
naliothflexs[prog] : did you search for "glib"  <<< only 'glib'08:44
Bubbling_Zombieyes08:44
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Tuxisti need the new amarok version please make deb08:44
H0lyD4wgaio, I plugged in the HD and it booted successfully, but every time the kernel is upgraded i have to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst manually and i don't know how to fix the soundcard. re-installation doesn't sound like a good idea - i don't think anyone would suggest re-installation if i was just adding/removing a card/HD from the original box.08:45
SDFH_Linuxlinuxant works but sucks compared to ndiswrapper08:45
HieronymusIs there anyone here who's ever played teg?08:45
naliothTuxist: why cant you make it? you have the tools.08:45
Tuxistamarok dont compile08:45
HieronymusAnd point me too some good manual, explaining where the rules differ from normal Risk?08:45
Hieronymus*to08:45
itzSeveas, didnt make sense.... how do i search for files greater then 10gb?08:45
Tuxist/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL08:45
KyralHow would one compile something writtin in Visual Basic on Linux?08:45
flexs[prog] nalioth : i have glib-2.0 installed....08:45
Bubbling_ZombieKyral, you don't08:45
naliothTuxist: have you ironed out all its error messages when you try to compile it?08:45
Seveasitz: man find08:46
Seveasfind / -size (i guess)08:46
itzSeveas,  :/08:46
Seveasdunno the details by heart08:46
Tuxistyes08:46
naliothflexs[prog] : how about glib-<something>-dev?08:46
flexs[prog] nalioth : bu when i try to compile midnight commander he says that i don't have the glib08:46
Kyralokay, then how would you convert VB into GNOME Basic?08:46
Bubbling_Zombiemanually?08:46
naliothflexs[prog] : you need the -dev package08:46
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electrichamsterEyup08:47
naliothflexs[prog] : and midnight commander is available using synaptic (it is called "mc")08:47
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electrichamsterhaving an odd problem with a network card that I've never encountered before: ifconfig states it's up, gnome-panel says its down, and it's pinging at around 1000ms - any ideas?08:48
flexs[prog] nalioth : say me... why i don't have mc in list, when i search him.... mybe i need some update... ?08:48
electrichamsterI'm considering just switching the network card, as I suspect it may just be a flaky driver08:48
nalioths_dogflexs[prog] : For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:49
nalioths_dogflexs[prog] : Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:49
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electrichamsterI guess noone knows :s08:50
electrichamsterrats08:50
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Seveaspets*08:50
Tuxist :-P08:50
SDFH_Linuxhow do i get the latest kernel08:50
thoreauputicelectrichamster: you've been here for 45 seconds since your question, and you assume no one can help? *grin*08:51
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electrichamster120 seconds actually I'll have you know ;)08:51
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Tuxisthttp://www.kernel.org/08:51
itzSeveas, all folders together is like 192gb but the disc is almost full (250gb) so can it be anything hidden on disc? can i somehow typ to see hidden stuff in a dir?08:51
SeveasSDFH_Linux, aptitude install linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd) linux-ppc (mac)08:51
thoreauputicelectrichamster: OK I sit corrected ;)08:51
electrichamster:D08:51
Seveasitz, ls -al08:51
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naliothitz: there is a lot hidden on your disk08:51
itzk08:52
naliothitz: install xdiskusage and you can see into the crevices easily08:52
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itznalioth, ok08:52
naliothitz: you wouldnt believe how much space your browsers take up in cache08:52
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electrichamsterthanks anyway, I'll try again some other time08:53
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Tuxisthave anyone sdp i need it08:53
SDFH_Linuxwhat is the latest kernel for ubuntu08:53
Tuxist2.6.1108:53
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SDFH_Linuxk08:53
ubunwhat package to install to see quicktime movie in firefox?08:53
itzSeveas,  .Trash-root  so there it is.... how do i empty it? :P08:53
SeveasTuxist, / SDFH_Linux 2.6.11 is BROKEN08:53
Seveasdo NOT use it08:53
Seveasitz, sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash-root08:54
SDFH_Linuxis 2.6.10 ok?08:54
bet0xcan i search for pr0n movies with apt-cache ?08:54
SeveasSDFH_Linux, yes08:54
naliothTuxist: if you are compiling amarok, make sure you have all the repos08:54
SDFH_Linuxk08:54
naliothbet0x: search all you like08:54
Seveasbet0x, of course08:54
Tuxisti cant compile amarok08:54
bet0xnice :D08:54
bet0xthanx08:54
Seveaswhether you'll find one is another question :)08:54
HappyFoolTuxist: still?08:54
Tuxistsend better sdp08:54
SeveasTuxist, why compile?08:55
thoreauputicSeveas: i assume hotbabe isn't in the Ubuntu repos ;)08:55
Seveasit's in the repositories...08:55
Tuxistamarok 1.308:55
Seveasnewer version..?08:55
Tuxisthave wiki function08:55
Tuxistyes08:55
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Tuxistbeta08:55
itzSeveas, didnt do any diffrence? :o08:56
naliothSeveas: Tuxist wants "bling" over stability08:56
Tuxisthttp://amarok.kde.org/08:56
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HappyFoolTuxist: before my power failed, i was going to say there's no libgl-dev on packages.ubuntu.com08:56
dim_witted_kidi'm having problems with my browser and openoffice08:56
Tuxistno risk no fun08:56
Seveasnalioth, given that he uses KDE, that was clear already ;)08:56
Seveas</rant>08:56
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dim_witted_kidafter using ff for a few minutes, it would stop functioning08:56
SDFH_Linuxwhat is the latest gnome for ubuntu?08:56
dim_witted_kidopenoffice wouldn't open08:56
naliothSeveas: be nice  :)08:56
TuxistTuxist: before my power failed, i was going to say there's no libgl-dev on packages.ubuntu.com i cant install because the package remove x-system-core08:57
HappyFoolSDFH_Linux: if you have hoary, you have got more-or-less the latest stuff08:57
SDFH_Linuxk08:57
Tuxistthats not funny08:57
HappyFoolTuxist: by libgl-dev is not a hoary package -- you must have mixed repositories08:57
HappyFoolbut08:57
Whistleri have 2nd hdd and in that hdd theres mandrake and its boot selector how can i boot in my normal mode?08:57
SeveasTuxist, try: apt-get build-dep amarok08:57
Tuxistsay a server08:57
naliothdim_witted_kid: ff has many issues, why not use galeon or kazehakase instead? they both use the gecko engine and have  linux native guis08:57
dim_witted_kidi tried galeon08:57
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Whistleri have 2nd hdd and in that hdd theres mandrake and its boot selector how can i boot in my normal mode?08:58
dim_witted_kidsame thing...08:58
TuxistTuxist, try: apt-get build-dep amarok that have no effect08:58
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Whistleranybody canhelp me?08:58
Tuxistsay apt me a apt server to get libgl-dev08:58
Tuxistme08:58
HappyFoolWhistler: you can probably tell grub to boot your mandrake partition08:58
naliothdim_witted_kid: how bout kazehakase or epiphany?08:58
dim_witted_kidand about openoffice... i uninstalled it and used the beta version... it still won't open08:58
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gangalinocan anyone help me with python versions?08:59
Tuxistmy sdp is no more f++k08:59
dim_witted_kidhaven't tried that yet @ nalioth, but i will try :) thanks08:59
naliothdim_witted_kid: well, betas are not 'stable' (otw, they'd be 'release versions')08:59
Whistlerbut normaly i have selection of ubuntu and xp installed in 1 hdd.Now i connected other hdd and i cant boot to my normal system08:59
pepsihooray for broken breezy!08:59
Seveaslol coca :)08:59
Tuxistok08:59
naliothdim_witted_kid: have you tried removing your beta oOo?09:00
dim_witted_kidnopes09:00
dim_witted_kidhaven't removed it yet09:00
Whistlerbut normaly i have selection of ubuntu and xp installed in 1 hdd.Now i connected other hdd and i cant boot to my normal system09:00
HappyFoolWhistler: so your system is now booting mandrake?09:00
naliothdim_witted_kid: why don't you try that?09:00
Whistleryep09:00
dim_witted_kidbut the one installed in my system when i intalled ubuntu also doesn't work09:00
HappyFoolWhistler: there's no need to repeat yourself09:00
anto9usWhistler: try swapping the cable around09:01
naliothWhistler: if you edit your grub, it will start your other HD09:01
HappyFoolWhistler: try making the one master, the other slave (if they're on the same ide cable -- err, i don't know sata)09:01
naliothdim_witted_kid: which do you want to work more, ff or oOo?09:01
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dim_witted_kidi removed the openoffice thingy before i installed beat hoping it would work09:01
HappyFoolWhistler: i mean, swap the master/slave arrangement09:01
Whistlerthey are on separate cables09:01
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dim_witted_kidi'd choose the browser09:01
HappyFoolWhistler: ok, then do what anto9us suggested09:01
dim_witted_kidi saw from the ubuntu guide that i can run ms office from ubuntu :D09:02
HappyFoolgangalino: sorry, i lost power before i could see your sources.list -- did you get any more assistance?09:02
dim_witted_kidbut it would be better if i could have both09:02
Tuxisti need a new doener09:02
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gangalinoHappyFool: no resolution yet09:03
HappyFoolgangalino: would you mind pasting you sources.list in #flood?09:03
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naliothdim_witted_kid: so lets remove the oOo, then and see what happens09:03
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gangalinoHappyFool: it's there in flood already09:04
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dim_witted_kidi already did09:04
HappyFoolgangalino: i can't see what was pasted there when i wasn't here09:04
gangalinoHappyFool: doing again...09:05
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blackoutanyone know of a tool to let you create wireless profiles (say, starbucks, home, work) with different essids/wep keys, and cycle through them each time you start up to pick the appropriate one automatically?09:05
sektorhey09:05
virguleho09:05
dim_witted_kidbrb09:05
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sektorwhere can i find acroread?09:05
blackoutbasically, i'm looking for some alternative to editing /etc/network/interfaces each time i boot up my computer (since I roam around a lot)09:05
teferi_blackout: i do it with wpa_supplicant09:05
Seveassektor, in the backports iirc09:06
HappyFoolsektor: in 'multiverse'09:06
teferi_blackout: which, despite the name, also does WEP09:06
SeveasHappyFool, is acroread 7 there too?09:06
sektorhappyfool: mutliverse?09:06
sektormultiverse*09:06
HappyFoolSeveas: looks like 5.109:06
HappyFool5.10, even09:06
Seveasthat's too old and ugly09:06
teferi_well, 7 is new and ugly09:07
sektorhaha09:07
teferi_take your pick09:07
SeveasI'd happily recommand using backports for this one09:07
gangalinoHappyFool: it's there09:07
sektorand what's backports09:07
sektoror where do i find it?09:07
HappyFoolgangalino: that last ftp line looks a bit iffy09:07
sektorbit noob :)09:07
blackoutteferi_: it supports profiles?09:07
teferi_blackout: aye09:07
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DiscipulusHappyFool, you know Seveas is a bot right?09:07
HappyFoolgangalino: i think you should comment it out, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'09:07
SeveasDiscipulus, lol :)09:07
Tuxistkopete cvs version  :-)09:07
nalioth!backports09:07
ubotuI guess backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/09:07
DiscipulusSeveas, where can I find your source?09:07
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blackoutteferi_: wow, great.09:08
HappyFoolDiscipulus: yip. But we usually don't discuss that in public09:08
nalioths_dogDiscipulus: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:08
teferi_blackout: ..as long as you don't mind editing the configuration file09:08
HappyFoolDiscipulus: especially not in front of the BEE OH TEE. He's not very smart.09:08
SeveasDiscipulus, when you read enough CS books and manpages you will have collected the info to rebuild me :)09:08
TuxistHappyFool you got my message09:08
teferi_blackout: network-manager does it GUIfully, but i've had very,very poor luck with it09:08
HappyFoolTuxist: bits of it09:08
teferi_and can't recommend it yet09:08
Seveas /kick HappyFool09:08
HappyFoolTuxist: your client pastes stuff too fast09:08
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Tuxistkopete cvs09:08
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HappyFoolTno09:09
DiscipulusHappyFool, is he o-p-e-n- -s-o-u-r-c-e ?09:09
HappyFoolaargh09:09
BelutzHappyFool: hai :D09:09
Seveas*reset*09:09
HappyFoolDiscipulus: no. i think he might be a dalek09:09
teferi_EXTERMINATE09:09
Discipulusdalek?09:09
HappyFoolgah, Tuxist's irc client cannot paste stuff09:09
teferi_END OF IRC HAS ARRIVED09:09
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Seveasteferi_, watch your caps...09:09
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teferi_Seveas: daleks don't speak in lowercase, man09:10
xergibuenas colegas de linux09:10
teferi_er. bot. right.09:10
Seveasbuenas dias xergi09:10
gabriel82i would like to install ubuntu on my powerbook. will i have the same number of packages than on the x86 platform?09:10
ivokszdravo drugovi :)09:10
xergioye, hacerme un grandioso favor09:10
teferi_anyway, back to work09:10
DiscipulusHappyFool, http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/via/09:10
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DiscipulusHappyFool, that ring a bell?09:10
Seveasxergi, we speak english in here09:10
blackoutteferi_: network-manager can do profiles?09:10
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xergicomo se abren los . exe, que los drivers de mi nueva placa son dew esos09:11
Discipulusgabriel82, yes09:11
Seveasgabriel82, almost (you'll have to live without flash iirc)09:11
HappyFoolDiscipulus: hrm. ambitious ;)09:11
naliothxergi: howdy09:11
teferi_blackout: yes, but i find it hardlocks my laptop09:11
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teferi_blackout: so i really, *really* can't recommend it09:11
HappyFoolTuxist: don't paste again ;)09:11
xergiacostumbradoa winmierda...09:11
naliothgabriel82: yes and no09:11
gabriel82Seveas: what's that?09:11
Tuxistok09:11
DiscipulusHappyFool, think Seveas might be one of those?09:11
HappyFoolTuxist: go here instead: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:11
Seveasxergi, if you don't speak english, please go to a localized channel09:11
teferi_blackout: n-m also doesn't do wpa yet09:11
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TuxistHappyFool have no dsl09:11
naliothgabriel82: you will have acess to all the stuff available, but some things arent available as binaries (as they are on x86)09:12
HappyFoolTuxist: that doesn't matter ;)09:12
teferi_and may not for a while, the list is full of people arguing about the best way to do it09:12
HappyFoolTuxist: that site is just a place you can paste stuff, without getting kicked off due to Excess Flood09:12
xergiay alguien espaol????09:12
naliothgabriel82: but you can have apt build you a ubuntu package on the spot for most things09:12
Tuxistok09:12
Seveasxergi, va en #ubuntu-es por espanol09:12
Tuxistpeace09:12
HappyFoolTuxist: i'm on dial-up too ;) don't feel alone09:12
BelutzHappyFool: what's the default password for user ubuntu in ubuntu live cd?09:12
gabriel82nalioth: ok thanks i understand09:12
blackoutteferi_: do you mean network-admin, in gnome?09:12
Tuxistmy brother09:12
xergiok I try speak in english09:12
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itz sudo cd /home/ftp/Movies/Dvd-r/.Trash-root/09:12
itzsudo: cd: command not found09:12
SeveasBelutz, no passwords at all09:12
itzWhat to do? :D09:12
teferi_blackout: no, that just twiddles /etc/network/interfaces and such09:12
Tuxistsdsl 400009:12
el_fishhm.. i got a simpple question.. does ubuntu have firewall included on install cd?09:12
HappyFoolBelutz: i don't know, sorry. someone asked this yesterday after he'd locked the desktop09:12
teferi_network-manager may only be in breezy. sorry.09:12
teferi_um.09:12
ralchow do i find out which kernel version i use?09:13
DiscipulusHappyFool, how do you update from one release to another release if you're on dial-up?09:13
Seveasel_fish: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.09:13
naliothgabriel82: if ya have any ???s, theres several PPC users in here09:13
teferi_stick with wpa_supplicant09:13
HappyFoolSeveas: what's the answer? Just <enter> (blank password?)09:13
blackoutteferi_: rats.  Thanks though.09:13
HappyFoolDiscipulus: with great patience09:13
HappyFoolDiscipulus: i downloaded the CD over a weekend09:13
anto9usralc: uname -r09:13
SeveasHappyFool, it shouldn't ask for one09:13
sektorhow do i add one of the backports repositories to the sources.list?09:13
teferi_blackout: if you wait three hours, i can give you a sample config file that i know works ('cause I use it)09:13
xergiOk, motherboard' drivers, are .exe, and how open this files in Linux????09:13
BelutzSeveas: but i can't login without no password, after i locked the desktop, like just HappyFool said09:13
DiscipulusHappyFool, you download the CD instead of doing dist-upgrade ?09:13
Seveassektor: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php09:13
Seveassektor: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:13
el_fishSeveas: thanks m809:13
ralcanto9us, thank you09:13
Tuxistlibgl-de with breezy resp. have no effect cant install these package09:13
naliothel_fish: you may want to read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13009:13
HappyFoolDiscipulus: yip09:13
SeveasBelutz, hmm, that's be a bug09:13
el_fishi'll take a closer look at it now.. :)09:13
Tuxistv09:13
DiscipulusHappyFool, why? How do upgrade using a CD ?09:14
BelutzSeveas: ic...09:14
HappyFoolDiscipulus: it's pretty easy09:14
husherxergi: you don't09:14
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itzare there any gui apps that u can browse your computer like in windows?  That allows you to see anything hidden etc?09:14
DiscipulusHappyFool, any links on it?09:14
HappyFoolDiscipulus: i put the cd in, added it from synaptic, and then did a 'smart upgrade'09:14
HappyFoolDiscipulus: yeah, on the wiki09:14
gabriel82the only thing that is making me think it twice is the wireless card because the wireless card of the powerbook is not supported. What do you guys use?09:14
teferi_blackout: like i said, the other advantage of using wpa_supplicant is that when you upgrade to WPA, you're still covered, software wise09:14
teferi_I'd be doing WPA myself now if the #%!%ing driver for my card worked properly...09:14
xergiI can,t open this files in linux???? not are any program, for open this files in linux???09:14
husherxergi: you need the linux equivilent of the drivers09:14
Belutzi just tried kubuntu live cd..., the interface is much more better than ubuntu in my opinion, but it's really damn hard to activate my eth1, so i guess ubuntu is more easy to use....09:15
naliothcustomers are callin09:15
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HappyFoolTuxist: i'm using x-chat ;) which does let me paste stuff09:15
xergiaaaaaaaaaa09:15
xergiok09:15
TuxistHappyFool you have 1.84 ghz you have enough power to compile09:15
blackoutteferi_: thanks - i hadn't seen network-manager before, which seems to be exactly what i want (except, it should be in gtk, support wpa, and be in hoary :) )09:15
husherxergi: you can try using wine to emulate windows and open the files09:15
xergiI have to download the motherboard drivers for linux?09:15
Tuxistxchat 2.4.109:15
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nalioth_wrknHappyFool: it will let ypu paste, use <ctrl-c> and <ctrl-v>09:15
blackoutteferi_: now i just have to figure out how to use wpa_supplicant09:15
HappyFoolTuxist: i used to compile on my old Pentium 100 MHz ;)09:15
HappyFoolnalioth_wrkn: yeah, i know ;)09:15
Belutzanyone use ubuntu with laptop?09:15
BelutzPC laptop09:16
SeveasBelutz, /me09:16
HappyFoolnalioth_wrkn: Tuxist was getting Excess Flood with whatever client he's using09:16
Seveasi'm on a laptop right now09:16
Tuxistmy pc have 33mhz with kde this rocks09:16
teferi_blackout: it does use gtk, it's not in hoary, and still doesn't work that well09:16
gangalinoTeferi: you habesha?09:16
teferi_blackout: like I said, n-m hardlocks my machine nondeterministically whenever i try it09:16
BelutzSeveas: how do i activate the 'Fn' key ?09:16
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teferi_gangalino: pardon?09:16
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SeveasBelutz, that is not handled by the operating system09:16
Tuxistthats not illegal09:16
xergi I have to download the motherboard drivers for linux09:16
xergi??09:16
Seveassome Fn+other key combinations might09:17
Seveasbut that's really laptop-type-specific09:17
gangalinoHappyFool: how can you verify that you have Warty? Would re-updating it have an effect?09:17
BelutzSeveas: so if my laptop vendor doesn't have the software for linux, i can't use my 'Fn' key?09:17
husherxergi: have you loaded linux on said machine yet?09:17
Seveasgangalino, cat /etc/issue09:17
itzSeveas, it worked now... jesus arent there any hui browsers out there that works as root=09:17
TuxistHappyFool kopete 10.90 cvs09:17
gangalinoTeferi: I guess not. I was wondering if you were Ethiopian09:17
HappyFoolgangalino: um. look in /etc/lsb-release, maybe09:17
SeveasBelutz, well, usually it requires tweaking with xmodmap or setkeycodes09:17
blackoutteferi_: yeah, i know - basically, i was saying "it would be great, except for nearly everything"09:17
BelutzSeveas: what brand of laptop do u use?09:17
HappyFoolgangalino: 'cat /etc/lsb-release'09:17
SeveasBelutz, googling for your laptop type might help09:18
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teferi_gangalino: sorry, no09:18
HappyFoolDiscipulus: here (re upgrading with CD): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes09:18
anto9usxergi: hopefully, linux will recognise your hardware, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport09:18
teferi_blackout: wpa_supplicant is pretty easy to set up for wpa. if you can wait three hours, i can give you my sample config09:18
HappyFoolTuxist: sorry, i don't know kopete at all09:18
BelutzSeveas: that's a good idea... thx for reminding me for googling :D09:18
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gangalinoHappyFool: it still says Warty09:18
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teferi_blackout: there's a sample configuration file in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant after you install it, but it's much more than you need09:18
G|immerhello09:18
Tuxistkopete.kde.org09:18
Seveashi G|immer09:18
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virgulehey all where/what is the best place to report a crash? a KDE applet just crapped on me and I need a clue..plz ;)09:19
HappyFoolgangalino: ok. i recommend removing the ftp entry (if you haven't), running apt-get update09:19
HappyFoolgangalino: oops09:19
teferi_blackout: (since WPA covers all kinds of exotic authentication methods beyond simple WEP and slightly more complicated EAP-PSK)09:19
husherBelutz: what kind of laptop do you have?09:19
Seveasteferi_, do you have it going with 802.1x with TTLS and pap?09:19
blackoutteferi_: yeah, i just need to know how to integrate it into /etc/network/interfaces, and i'm done09:19
HappyFoolgangalino: ... running 'apt-get update', and then running 'apt-get dist-upgrade'09:19
blackoutteferi_: the config file is simple.09:19
Belutzhusher: NEC Versa M54009:19
G|immeri am mounting my hdb1 FAT32 partiiton with this option: iocharset=utf8,umask=000. Yet, the mount point is empty! any suggestions?09:19
HappyFoolgangalino: however, i don't what will happen if you have debian packages installed09:19
blackoutteferi_: and thankfully, well-documented09:19
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teferi_blackout: that's the thing, you don't have to. you just tell it what interface to use in /etc/default/wpa_supplicant09:19
teferi_or /etc/default/wpasupplicant. whatever it is09:19
husherBelutz: i have an asus m6n, and some of my Fn keys work09:19
teferi_Seveas: hah, i wish09:20
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husherBelutz: it just depends on the notebook09:20
Belutzhusher: ic... i haven't try all my Fn key...09:20
teferi_Seveas: when i try doing wpa with wpa_supplicant and my card, it doesn't work. it seems to be a known issue that no one cares about09:20
Seveasah09:20
teferi_even with just simple wpa-psk09:20
teferi_crying shame09:20
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teferi_Seveas: i know wpa_supplicant can delegate to xsupplicant09:21
teferi_in theory09:21
Seveas:)09:21
teferi_i don't know how it works09:21
blackoutteferi_: so, i need exactly 0 entries in /etc/network/interfaces?09:21
husherBelutz: for example, my brightness keys work, but not the sound09:21
Seveasit works...09:21
Seveas...in theory :)09:21
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teferi_i know approximately -> <- this much about 802.1x09:21
gangalinoHappyFool:I get the same error09:21
Belutzhusher: that's the problem.. the brightness key don't work...09:21
DanielHolthwarty, hoary, breezy, what order do they go in?09:21
HappyFoolgangalino: hrm09:21
teferi_blackout: the way i've been using wpa_supplicant is entirely indepentent of ifupdown09:21
SeveasDanielHolth, that order :)09:21
Tuxisthoary09:21
gangalinoHappyFool: check #flood again09:22
husherBelutz: that is a problem.  did you check xev and dmesg for possible output?09:22
HappyFoolgangalino: i'm there09:22
teferi_blackout: once wpa_supplicant has associated with a network, i just ifup ath0 and it goes09:22
sektoranyone know how to add the backport repositories to the sources.list?09:22
Discipulushmm, the newest release of Gaim is 1.4.0, but repositories still has 1.3.109:22
teferi_(the ath0 stanza in interfaces has nothing wireless-related in it)09:22
HappyFoolgangalino: you have smeg installed?09:22
Discipuluswhen do the repositories get updated?09:22
husherbr09:22
sektori followed the instruction on the website, but it doesn't work09:22
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gangalinoHappyFool: yes09:22
Belutzhusher: no... i'm a newbie hehe... and i just try the live cd, not install it yet09:22
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gangalinoHappyFool: get rid of it?09:23
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SeveasDiscipulus, all the time09:23
HappyFoolgangalino: um. i don't know what's going wrong here09:23
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HappyFoolgangalino: i suspect you have some debian packages installed, and that is interfering with the dist-upgrade09:23
virgule!info karamba09:23
ubotukaramba: (A program improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.17-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 308 kB09:23
virgule!info superkaramba09:23
ubotusuperkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB09:23
itzive changed password for sudo but i can still use olw password... howcome? :(09:23
teferi_talking about wireless reminds me of drivers, which reminds me...is there still no word on when linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.12 hits breezy?09:23
teferi_it's beginning to make me sad.09:24
husherBelutz: i didn't get that last msg before i quit, what was it?09:24
DiscipulusSeveas, when will the Gaim executable get updated?09:24
Belutzhusher: no... i'm a newbie hehe... and i just try the live cd, not install it yet09:24
Tuxistsuperkaramba have more features09:24
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flexs[prog] nalioth_dog : where problem.... i can't save file in my var/www dir, he says that i have no permision, when i try to change permission, he says that i don't have paermission to change permission, where problem ?09:24
Belutzhusher: how do i check xev and dmesg?09:24
virguleTuxist: its more super ;)09:24
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Tuxistgoil09:24
SeveasDiscipulus, when there are security bugs found (hoary) when a new version is out (breezy)09:24
Tuxistobergeil09:24
HappyFoolSeveas: does dist-upgrade have a 'force' option of any sort?09:25
husherBelutz: ok, so open a terminal, press an Fn key combo, and then type dmesg |tail09:25
Belutzhusher: wait... lemme write this09:25
SeveasHappyFool, dpkg has09:25
teferi_husher: tail -f, you mean09:25
teferi_er, wait09:25
teferi_damnit09:25
demirgcan anyone suggest me an howto to listen to mp3 at hoary?09:25
DiscipulusWhen will it be safe to use Breezy?09:25
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HappyFoolSeveas: hrm, i guess i was confusing them, thanks09:25
teferi_Discipulus: now is not a good time09:25
Belutzhusher: then what do i do with the output?09:25
Seveasdemirg: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support09:25
jazaheya09:26
HieronymusDiscipulus: when it's done09:26
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Seveashi jaza09:26
husherteferi_: well, not in this particular instance, but most of the time yes09:26
Discipulusheh09:26
jazahey i have a problem :(09:26
blackoutteferi_: strange - don't you have to tell it somehow what interface to use?  I don't see an interface option in wpa_supplicant.conf09:26
DiscipulusHieronymus, so people generally don't use Ubuntu Unstable like they do with Debian?09:26
teferi_blackout: you tell it as a command line option09:26
husherBelutz: paste it to #flood09:26
teferi_it's a bit strange09:26
HieronymusDiscipulus: I do09:26
virguleplz answer quick: I do I get to know the version of an installed package?09:26
virgulein CLI plz09:26
HieronymusDiscipulus: filing bugs all the time09:26
TuxistHappyfool i have installed this package xlibmesa-gl-dev09:26
jazadoes any1 know how to reset the password after installing ubuntu09:26
Belutzhusher: i'm not running the ubuntu now...09:27
virgulewith fedora I would do rpm -q packagename... but what is it with .deb?/09:27
jazadoes any1 know how to reset the password after installing ubuntu09:27
teferi_dpkg -p09:27
HappyFoolvirgule: dpkg -s <package>|grep ^Version09:27
GigaClonthe next ver of ubuntu is breezy right09:27
HieronymusGigaClon: right09:27
jazaany1 help me ?09:27
GigaClonbreezy what?09:27
Belutzhusher: maybe i'll catch u later, when i'm running kubuntu09:27
HieronymusGigaClon: Breezy Badger 5.1009:27
blackoutteferi_: which you specify in /etc/defaults/wpasupplicant?09:27
TuxistIch hre gerade diese Musik: Holy Virgin von Groove Coverage auf Playa Special Edition No 1109:27
husherBelutz: ok, well, you're going to need to do that ;)09:27
HappyFoolTuxist: ok. is it working?09:27
Tuxistno09:27
SeveasTuxist, ehrm....09:27
Tuxisti hate my life09:27
teferi_blackout: oh hell, you would ask me when i don't have my laptop with me :(09:27
HieronymusTuxist: Deutsch in #ubuntu-de09:27
Belutzhusher: ok, i just have to finish my crystal reports first :D09:28
Tuxistmy plugin09:28
gangalinoHappyFool: I removed smeg and it seems to be getting further09:28
SeveasTuxist, and scripts in /dev/null09:28
jazacan any1 help me09:28
husherBelutz: ok09:28
blackoutteferi_: that's okay, i'll figure it out09:28
Seveasjaza, which password..?09:28
teferi_you have to specify which driver to use, which interface to use, and the path to the config file if it's not in /etc/wpasupplicant.conf09:28
teferi_it's all in the manpage09:28
HappyFoolgangalino: cool. i see apt-get has a '-f' 'repair' option which *might* help, but i'm not sure09:28
blackoutteferi_: right, that's what i'm finding09:28
virguleHappyFool: thx a lot that output what I want. Is it possible to setup an alias for this?09:28
teferi_I do hope you have a card that w_s supports...09:29
HappyFoolvirgule: err. long time no write alias09:29
blackoutteferi_: i do - hermes09:29
teferi_marvelous09:29
HappyFoolvirgule: i don't know how to put arguments into aliases -- a shell script should be doable09:29
gangalinoanyone use Gdesklets? How do I get the main window to show up? I have it running, but I want to install more desklets, it isn't showing in the task/status area09:30
blackoutteferi_: there's almost nothing in the manpage, by the way.09:30
teferi_blackout: alas09:30
teferi_blackout: istr there being a bunch of stuff in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant, though09:30
blackoutteferi_: yeah, that's where i'm getting this from.09:30
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gijoshHey.  I have Ubuntu installed on my hard drive, but I have no boot loader atm.  I'm ont he live cd.  What's the best way to install grub from here?09:31
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G|immercan the repositiory database get messed up? meaning, Synaptic shows something as not installed when it is installed, and am not getting the updates listed anywhere (like gaim 1.3.1)?09:31
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Seveasgijosh, the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/recoveringgrubafterinstallingwindows might help you09:31
Seveasyou're in about the same situation09:31
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gijoshSeveas:  Thanks man.09:31
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mick_hey09:32
thoreauputicjaza: to reset a password, type 'passwd username' and answer the questions09:32
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mick_can some one help me out09:32
Hieronymusmick_: just ask09:32
hushergangalino: i usually just run gdesklets again09:32
gijoshSeveas: Yea, this is exactly what I need.  Thanks a lot. :)09:33
thoreauputicjaza: where "username" is the user concerned09:33
mick_ive been having troubles installing apps because i cant log in ass root09:33
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thoreauputic!sudo09:33
ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:33
mick_i set my root pass with sudo09:33
thoreauputicmick_: read that09:33
Hieronymusmick_: you can use sudo09:33
Hieronymusmick_: sudo will use your _own_ password09:33
Seveasthoreauputic, Hieronymus too jumpy :)09:33
teferi_blackout: oh! one thing the docs *don't* mention...if you suspend your laptop and then later resume it, you need to restart wpa_supplicant09:33
mick_su i just use suda in the terminal09:34
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Seveasmick_, yes09:34
Seveassudo -i gives you a root shell09:34
husherteferi_, what kind of laptop do you have?09:34
thoreauputicmick_: sudo <command> ; type your user pass09:34
demirgseveas, thanks09:34
blackoutteferi_: that's okay, i can't suspend it anyway :)09:34
mick_ok cool09:34
HieronymusSeveas: no I wasn't, sudo will use your _own_ *personal* password09:34
teferi_husher: I have a ThinkPad T40.09:34
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blackoutteferi_: it's telling my my wep key is too long though, so I"ll have to figure out what hte problem is09:34
teferi_WIth the exception of exactly two things, everything on it works perfectly09:35
husherteferi_: dang.  i can't get my asus to suspend, and i was hoping you had something close.09:35
teferi_Unfortunately, both of those two things are rather massive annoyances09:35
husherteferi_, what are they?09:35
teferi_...speaking of one of those things, anyone seen mjg?09:35
mick_nice09:35
mick_thanks09:35
Seveas!seen mjg09:35
ubotuSeveas: i haven't seen 'mjg'09:35
teferi_husher: the video chip doesn't get shut down properly in suspend, so it draws too much power09:35
teferi_i only get about 3 hours suspend time at most09:35
hushermight as well leave it running, at that point09:36
teferi_no way09:36
teferi_heat09:36
husherpoint taken09:36
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teferi_if i leave it sitting in my backpack not suspended for an hour, it'll overheat itself into a nice crash09:36
teferi_it's happened09:36
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mick_is there any way to get totem to install new codecs specificallly XVid09:36
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thoreauputic!codecs09:37
ubotuI guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:37
HappyFoolhm. can anyone here resolve www.defensetech.org ?09:37
gverigDo I have something misconfigured or do Ubuntu repos for Hoary still have firefox 1.0.2?09:37
DiscipulusHieronymus, so why would you suggest I wait till it comes out to use it?09:38
HappyFool!firefox09:38
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"09:38
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teferi_ anyway, that's the biggest laptop problem. the other is the WPA problem I mentioned earlier09:38
anto9usHappyFool: it's very slow09:38
husherHappyFool: nope.09:38
HieronymusDiscipulus: If you know what you're doing, help test it!09:38
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DiscipulusHieronymus, heh, define "know what you're doing"09:38
HieronymusDiscipulus: just don't get too pissed off when X breaks a lil' bit09:38
HappyFoolanto9us, husher: firefox?09:38
Belutzhusher, my brightness key now is working.....09:39
virgule"a 'lil bit" lol09:39
teferi_i'm pretty happy running breezy, but i ran debian unstable for seven years before going to ubuntu09:39
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anto9usHappyFool: yes09:39
husherBelutz: excellent09:39
teferi_so i know how to placate dpkg, fix massive breakages, etc, etc09:39
DiscipulusHieronymus, heh, X break ofteN?09:39
husherHappyFool: i can't resolve the address with ping09:39
gverigHappyFool: Any info why firefox is backported (and what "backported" means in the first place)?09:39
teferi_your mileage will vary09:39
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superbo3hi all i saw the admin at work use ubunto on a old machine for fun and loved it so im downloading it now for my old pc but i would like to ask here if it would work ok on a 200 mhz pc before i start formating it? :-)09:39
HieronymusDiscipulus: well, if you need help changin your repos to breezy, than you'd better not09:39
HappyFoolhusher: oh, right ;) thank you09:39
Belutzhusher, i want to chech my mute/unmute key... how do i do that?09:39
husherHappyFool, np09:39
Belutz*check09:40
Discipulushaha, I don't need help doing that09:40
HappyFoolgverig: cos ubuntu doesn't upgrade software in a release. only security fixes (and other critical fixes) are applied09:40
DiscipulusI'm not THAT much of a n00b09:40
HieronymusDiscipulus: It was said to be very buggy in the beginning (but I wasn't using Breezy then), and once Xorg changed from /usr/bin/X11R6/Xorg to /usr/bin/Xorg, which wasn't change in gdm.conf, and I had to do that manually09:40
husherBelutz: open a Terminal, press the mute key or key combo, then type "dmesg |tail" in the terminal09:40
teferi_oh yeah, i remember that breakage09:40
teferi_that sucked09:40
teferi_that sucked hard09:40
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HappyFoolgverig: backported means the appropriate bits from 1.0.4 are applied to 1.0.209:40
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gverigHappyFool: ? Does this mean that we'll have firefox 1.0.2 until nex Ubuntu is released?09:41
gverignex=next09:41
teferi_i really can't recommend upgrading to breezy as of right now, though09:41
HappyFoolgverig: yip09:41
teferi_because of the udev/kernel problem09:41
Wa77zok guys, i installed enlightenment windows mager, but i cant select it in my session types at login, what can i do09:41
Belutzhusher, i paste it on #flood09:41
HappyFoolgverig: next release in october09:41
superbo3anyone got time to answer a quick qustion? :) will ubunto run fine on my old 200 mhz pc? (has voodoo 3 card) :)09:41
Hieronymussuperbo3: not with gnome09:42
Seveassuperbo3, not with gnome or kde09:42
Seveasyou will need fluxbox09:42
HappyFoolgverig: you can always install the binary from mozilla.org, and i think the quasi-official backports repository may have it, i'm not sure09:42
Hieronymussuperbo3: you could install something a bit lighter, like XFCE09:42
Seveas(or maybe xfce)09:42
HappyFoolgverig: by 'it' i mean 1.0.409:42
husherBelutz: nothing there about your button, check google for info on your notebook model09:42
steffenhi how can i install the java jdk on ubuntu?09:42
DanielHolthAnyone here gotten terminus in their terminal? It doesn't seem to want to use bitmap fonts.09:42
gverigHappyFool: Hmm... 1) this seems strange... 2) Is Ubuntu upgradeable through aptget or will I have to burn new CDs?09:42
Belutzhusher, i already googling for it and have no luck, i guess i must live with it...09:43
Hieronymusgverig: apt-get09:43
gverigHieronymus: Thanks09:43
teferi_gverig: it's a debian-derivative, so yes, you can upgrade via apt09:43
superbo3i got no idea what all those things are im a total n00b at linux stuff but i wanna learn cos im tired of windows and i liked how ubunto works tryed at work :) lol09:43
HappyFoolgverig: 1) it's a policy favouring stability 2) you can upgrade via apt over the network09:43
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Tarcastilhey, how do I change my default window manager?09:43
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Wa77zSeveas, I installed enlightenment form synaptic, but i dont think the install went right because i cant select it in sessiontypes09:43
HieronymusDiscipulus: If you run Breezy, I suggest you do that in a separate partition09:44
Belutzhusher, one more question, since i can't use my 'swith monitor mode' key, how do i change the display into external monitor or an LCD projector?09:44
husherBelutz, keep looking, there's a lot out there09:44
DiscipulusHieronymus, heh, alright, I won't then09:44
djpsteffen: read this first... http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html09:44
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steffenthx09:44
DiscipulusHieronymus, when do the Hoary reps get updated (looking forward to upgrading Gaim09:44
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Discipulus)09:44
husherBelutz: try starting the laptop with an external monitor plugged in; that worked on my old sony09:44
TarcastilWa77z: the installation probably went ok. For some reason it doesn't show up in gdm.09:45
HieronymusDiscipulus: It has been usable and stable for me, but, you know, just to be on the safe side09:45
Belutzhusher, ok, thx for the tips :)09:45
HieronymusDiscipulus: Hoary doesn't get updated09:45
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spanglesontoastwhere gcc 3.4.0 ?09:45
Vallehey guys i am seachin for a small an fast mail-server for linux, does anybody have clue?09:45
TarcastilWa77z: I'm actually having the same problem and am trying to get around it by making it the default window manager09:45
HieronymusDiscipulus: only security fixes09:45
sijmenI'm trying to install mediawiki on a freshly installed Apache/PHP/MySQL machine, but I'm getting this error:09:45
sijmenWarning: dl(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /home/httpd/html/lanparty5/mediawiki-1.4.6/install-utils.inc on line 1709:45
sijmenCould not load MySQL driver! Please compile php --with-mysql or install the mysql.so module.09:45
Wa77zTarcastil, thats right09:45
steffendjp: i won't read why i doesnt use java, i will use java :-P09:45
Seveassijmen, do NOT!! paste in here09:45
DiscipulusHieronymus, ah, alright, that sucks09:45
husherBelutz: np09:45
sijmenSeveas, sorry, that was too much.09:45
Seveassijmen, and install php4-mysql09:45
Belutzhusher, how big is your HDD?09:45
sijmenOkay09:45
husherBelutz: 8009:46
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sijmenThat's what I was wondering, whether there is some serperate php<->mysql link package09:46
sijmenThanks09:46
Belutzhusher, you only installed ubuntu or dual boot with windows?09:46
Wa77zwhat are some enviorments that use little ram ? i know of enlightenment and fluxbox i think its called09:46
HappyFoolValle: i'm definitely no expert, but the ubuntu default seems to be postfix -- tried that?09:46
husherBelutz: dual with windows09:46
naliothWa77z: xfce409:46
Belutzhusher, how much space do you use for ubuntu partition?09:47
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ValleHappyFool not yeat, but I am gonna take a look at it09:47
Vallethanks a lot09:47
spanglesontoastWHERE can i get gcc 3.4.0 ?09:47
Wa77znalioth, i have no idea what that means09:47
teferi_Valle: i like postfix a lot09:47
teferi_i like postfix a great deal09:47
Wa77znvm09:47
Wa77zlmao09:47
teferi_it's very configurable and supports everything you'd ever want to do, smtp-wise09:47
Wa77zi frogt i asked a question09:47
husherBelutz: 20 windows, 20 fat (for storage), 40 ubuntu09:47
GigaClonspanglesontoast: from apt?09:47
naliothWa77z: xfce4 is a small-footprint desktop manager09:47
cmathesonWa77z: openbox09:47
djpteferi_: same here. using postfix also09:47
Valleteferi_ is it preinstalled or apt?09:47
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spanglesontoastwell I did get it from apt except09:48
djpValle: preinstalled09:48
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spanglesontoastLinux version 2.6.10-5-k7 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 18:51:20 UTC 200509:48
husherBelutz: but i've only used 2.6 on my ubuntu partition09:48
djpValle: ubuntu hoary anyway09:48
spanglesontoastit stays at that version09:48
Belutzhusher, ic, how much space does ubuntu used for a default instalation?09:48
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cmathesonBelutz: ~1.5G09:49
husherBelutz: about 2ish, maybe less09:49
Belutzhusher, cause my laptop only has 60gb09:49
husherBelutz: you'll be fine09:49
thoreauputicspanglesontoast: that's the compiler that compiled the kernel :)09:49
GigaClononly???09:49
naliothBelutz: somehow i think ubuntu will fit09:49
gijoshI'm on an Ubuntu live cd.  I tried to mount my root filesystem which is /dev/hdb2 to /mnt/work with "mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/work" and got the error that it's either the wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock.09:49
Belutzhusher, so 20 windows, 20 fat32 and 20 ubuntu is more than enough to play around with ubuntu?09:49
GigaClonspanglesontoast: gcc --version09:50
spanglesontoastk09:50
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: try maybe 'dpkg -L gcc-3.4' to find it09:50
HieronymusBelutz: 20 gB for Ubuntu is more than enough09:50
BelutzHieronymus, ok :)09:50
husherBelutz: if you don't need access to your windows files, 10G for ubuntu is more than enough09:50
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spanglesontoastit's ok it's normal I'm told by lfs09:50
HieronymusBelutz: it needs about 4 gB + room for your data09:50
HappyFoolspanglesontoast: lfs?09:50
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naliothBelutz: you can actually give ubuntu 5 gb, because linux can read/write to fat3209:50
naliothHappyFool: linux from scratch09:51
Belutzcan't wait till friday, so i can format my laptop HDD :D09:51
jcoxonevening all09:51
Belutznalioth, oh... i forgot about that...09:51
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GigaClonubuntu can't right to nfts right?09:51
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HappyFoolnalioth: indeed. i suppose i shuold have put those eyes: O.O09:51
spanglesontoastdw09:51
MarcNubuntu's wiki doesn't seem to support RSS feeds.  Can some admin enable it?09:51
HappyFoolGigaClon: correct09:51
glyph_hi09:51
Belutznalioth, can i install linux apps on fat32?09:51
husherBelutz: what filesystem does your windows install use?09:51
Belutzhusher, by default is NTFS09:52
husherBelutz: you can, but it's not reccomended09:52
naliothBelutz: you can make a small ext3 partition for your kernel, and if you don't want a secure fs, go right ahead09:52
naliothBelutz: and they also make some distros of linux that totally use fat3209:52
naliothBelutz: but i'd avoid those09:52
glyph_can it be done in FAT32 (vfat)?09:52
HappyFoolcan you do things like setuid apps etc. on a fat32 partition ?09:52
husherBelutz: you can read ntfs all day long, but not write to it09:52
husherHappyFool: no09:53
Belutzhusher, yup...09:53
hsledmoutwhy bother with ntfs? why not just add the ext3/reiserfs etc?09:53
TuxistHappyFool have now amarok compile and maked a package09:53
teferi_writing to ntfs with the state of the art, using anything besides the 'captive' driver, is a very bad idea09:53
HappyFoolTuxist: well done. you are certainly persistent ;)09:53
naliothhowever (i like this part) if you are done with windows, writing to NTFS is the best thing >>>> for wiping09:53
HappyFoolheh09:53
husherBelutz: so if you never need to write to the windows partition, make a 20g ext3 partition on the end and go for it09:53
Belutzhmm guys, i'm going to have a public seminar on thursday for my bachelor degree. I need all of you to wish me luck, and spare a little time to pray for me....09:54
naliothTuxist: see? we knew you could do it09:54
HappyFoolBelutz: good luck ;)09:54
Tuxistnot persistent i am god09:54
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HieronymusBelutz: good luck, but I won't pray09:54
HappyFoolBelutz: i recommend getting a friend to ask a pre-arranged, apparently difficult question09:54
djpgood luck Belutz09:54
glyph_is there any programs other than Cygwin for porting the Termanil to Windows09:54
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hsledmoutputty09:55
BelutzHappyFool, hmmm i already did that.. with my lecturer LOL09:55
husherBelutz, good luck09:55
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airmikeygood luck09:55
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Belutzthx guys... after that, i could format my laptop HDD and welcoming ubuntu on my laptop :D09:55
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Belutzbefore i found ubuntu, i was thinking to install FreeBSD on my laptop09:56
glyph_brb09:56
husherbrb09:57
DiscipulusI like ports on FreeBSD09:57
GigaClonTuxist: I love you name09:57
DiscipulusPorts > Emerge09:57
dikadikaI installed ubuntu using the standard installation and went to sleep when i came back it is sitting at a grub prompt, how can i boot into windows or linux? can someone help me??09:57
Tuxistgod09:57
glyph_back09:57
GigaClondikadika: enter?09:57
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BelutzDiscipulus, my friends said that FreeBSD is more secure than other unix OS, is that true?09:58
glyph_lol09:58
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DiscipulusBelutz, it's all a matter of opinion09:58
demirghow can i mount fat32 partitions? a howto or sth, pls...09:58
DiscipulusBelutz, and it all depends on who's running it ;-)09:58
Tuxistapotheosize is better09:58
dikadikaGigaClon, gives me anothergrub> prompt09:58
Hieronymusdemirg: in the wiki there's a page automaticallymountmswindowspartitions. That'll helpyou09:58
BelutzDiscipulus, hahaha... that's a good point :p09:58
nalioths_dogdemirg: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically09:58
DiscipulusBelutz, security is in the eye of the user ;-)09:59
GigaClon!win32?09:59
ubotuGigaClon: Bugger all, i dunno09:59
mateoanyone speak spanish?  i need help!09:59
BelutzDiscipulus, does ubuntu fit enough to be a live server?09:59
Tuxistdoener is better09:59
DiscipulusBelutz, personally, I think nothing beats Ubuntu for home user09:59
naliothmateo en #ubuntu-es por favor09:59
DiscipulusBelutz, any Linux distro can be a server09:59
mateothks09:59
DiscipulusBelutz, a good friend of mine is running a dial-up ISP in australia with Mandrake 7.210:00
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BelutzDiscipulus, ic...10:00
glyph_yes all of them can great example K12LTSP10:00
Tuxistserver debian destop kubuntu thats my chioce10:00
BelutzDiscipulus, what do u think about RedHat or Fedora Core?10:00
DiscipulusBelutz, I don't like 'em.10:00
thoreauputicDiscipulus: I hope he knows how to compile more up-to-date security patches then :/10:00
Discipulusthoreauputic, he does, lol10:01
TuxistBelutz rpm  :'(10:01
glyph_Belutz, i used them for years befor i switch to ubuntu there great10:01
BelutzTuxist, i just tried kubuntu live cd, and i had a hard time activating my eth1, not as easy as ubuntu10:01
thoreauputicDiscipulus: that's a relief... ;)10:01
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BelutzTuxist, what's wrong with rpm ?10:01
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Tuxistno apt10:01
Discipulusthoreauputic, he told me if I wanted a good fast connection, that starting a dial-up ISP was the way to go, that you basically got paid while you do whatever you want to10:01
glyph_lol10:01
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glyph_FC4 has APT and YUM10:02
naliothBelutz: there is a phrased coined for rpm.."red hat hell"10:02
Tuxisti know apt4rpm10:02
DiscipulusBelutz, they use yum, which is a knock-off of apt, meaning it isn't as good10:02
Belutzi should've use linux from a long long time ago......10:02
IRCMonkeyI have forgoten ma pasword can any one help me log on10:02
Belutzic ic...10:02
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thoreauputicDiscipulus: heh - yeah nice way to get a fat pipe for nothing :)10:02
Tuxistdeb is better god has speak10:02
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DiscipulusBelutz, anyone who's hardcore into Linux uses (from what I can tell) either Slackware or Debian10:02
glyph_Yellowdog Update Manager is for RPMs only10:02
Belutzi only know .msi and .exe for installing applications LOL10:02
hsledmoutslackware is crazy flexible10:03
BelutzDiscipulus, is Slackware is still a good distro? i've never heard of it anymore10:03
hsledmouti use it on a 256mb flash card for a media player10:03
epAccording to apt-cache show bzflag  1.10 is available from the universe section (repository?) However I was hoping to install version 2.x  and its unclear how to determine if its apt-gettable as "unstable".10:03
mbirkiswhat package system is on slackware?10:03
Discipulusthoreauputic, that's what he said, said he has a nice fat pipe, gets to pay all the bills, and still puts about a grand a month into his pocket10:03
glyph_and if you want to lern a lot about the inerworkings you use gentoo10:03
Discipulusmbirkis, not really sure...10:03
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cmathesonmbirkis: iirc it's just lame .tgz's10:03
hsledmoutslackware uses tgz slackware packages10:03
hsledmoutand can use rpms10:04
thoreauputichsledmout: true but you need to know what to do when confronted by a bare prompt on install ;)10:04
Tuxistmsi and exe to many dll many have own libarys und dont use one10:04
jcoxonslackwares great :p10:04
naliothBelutz: in linux you can write a text file, and then tell the text file that it is executable, and it will be a 'program'10:04
Tuxistthats b10:04
epAlso is it possible to apt-get an unstable package and while at the same time picking up the dependencies from stable?10:04
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Belutzic ic10:04
thoreauputicglyph_: actually slackware will teach you more about linux than gentoo ever would10:04
naliothep: not advised due to version discrepancys10:05
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Discipulusep, in that case, download the source and make a .deb using checkinstall10:05
Belutzcan i use both gnome and kde in ubuntu? so i could switch between them anytime i want?10:05
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Tuxistyes10:05
Discipulusbbiab10:05
cmathesonBelutz: yeah, just install kubuntu-desktop10:05
Tuxistkde is the best10:05
naliothBelutz: and fluxbox, xfce4, enlightenment, etc10:05
hsledmouti've been gentoo'ing for two years and am about to migrate to ubuntu on my amd6410:05
Tuxistflamewar lets rock10:05
thoreauputicBelutz: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop10:05
hsledmouti don't see the point of compiling everything10:05
Belutzic ic...10:05
Belutzdo you guys works for ubuntu??10:06
cmathesonTuxist: KDE sucks! ... <tuxist> cmatheson: YOU SUCK! ... this is looking way to much like an adam sandler movie10:06
Tuxistgods10:06
thoreauputicBelutz: most of us are just hopeless addicts ;-)10:06
hsledmoutubuntu works for me ;)10:06
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Tuxistgnome user have little ....10:06
hsledmout(on muh ibook)10:06
glyph_synaptic (i thinks thats whay its called) theres an area call KDE desktop Manager get it from there its easier10:06
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epactually a deb for debian is already downloadable.  I used dpkg -i to try to install it but  my libcurl wasn't an high enough version.10:06
Belutzic ic10:06
tritiumno flamewars please10:06
cccany recommendations for converting dvd vob:s to a more compressed format (xvid preferably) ?10:07
Belutzi hope in time i could be in this channel and helping people :D10:07
Tuxistwar is my buisness. I am soldier10:07
glyph_im sry10:07
HappyFoolBelutz: patience, young grasshopper10:07
TuxistG36 rocks10:07
naliothBelutz: linux is "open source". You can run any desktop system you like, you can run w/o a external display at all if you want10:07
naliothBelutz: you are free to do with it what YOU want10:07
gerwhiteany of you guys into ubuntu10:07
BelutzHappyFool, speaking of grasshopper, anyone used 'Grasshopper' yet?10:08
naliothccc: dvdrip10:08
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Tuxistkde easy Gnome easy windowsmanager not useful for a beginner10:08
epwrong channel gerwhite -- opps10:08
HappyFoolheh10:08
hsledmoutxfce4!10:08
thoreauputicgerwhite: no, we just pretend to be into Ubuntu by hanging in the channel10:08
glyph_im in Windows Right now (poor fool)10:08
hsledmouthaha10:08
cccnalioth: thanks.10:08
hsledmout(me too :( )10:08
glyph_hsledmout, lol10:09
naliothhsledmout: yes, windows on PPC works great, eh? lol10:09
hsledmouti'm at work10:09
Hieronymusthoreauputic: now you've blown our cover!10:09
Hieronymusssh!10:09
hsledmouttunelling thru their firewall :)10:09
thoreauputicHieronymus: oh yeah... um.... wait... ;-)10:09
hsledmoutgotta love corkscrew!10:09
Tuxista new war ?10:09
ralcis there a free linux 3d game you can recommend? its for testing my gfx10:09
Tuxistwhere is there10:09
BelutzTuxRacer!!! :D10:10
Tuxistglest10:10
glyph_if i wasbt playing with my md player i would be in ubuntu10:10
naliothralc: run glxgears10:10
Tuxistdoom310:10
Hieronymusgl-11710:10
Tuxistgrins10:10
glyph_glTron10:10
Hieronymusabsolutely top!10:10
ralcnalioth, it should be a game :)10:10
Tuxistfreeciv10:10
Tuxist :-)10:10
glyph_FreeCraft10:10
Belutz3D Solitaire? :p10:11
glyph_:-)10:11
glyph_3dchess?10:11
Tuxist3dpocker10:11
Tuxist :-P10:11
thoreauputicfrozen bubble!10:11
naliothabuse10:11
glyph_freedoom10:11
naliothnah, thats not 3d10:11
glyph_true10:11
Tuxistching chang chung10:11
ralcyeah yeah :D does quake3 run on linux? or ut?10:11
Tuxistut quake run10:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYyesd and yes10:11
Tuxistis was faster10:11
Tuxistbh10:12
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^ using cedega or transgamings point2play10:12
glyph_not Steam...10:12
ralcoh nice gonna try them10:12
Belutzcan i installed program that is not listed in synaptic?10:12
glyph_damn ActiveX10:12
HieronymusBelutz: yes10:12
Tuxistcedega can got from apollon  :-)10:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYsteam runs in point2play10:12
BelutzHieronymus, by compiling it?10:12
epok guys, sorry to be such a noob...   I did dpkg -i bzflag_2.0 and ran into a dependency problem libcurl3 (>= 7.13.0-1)  my version is only 7.12 and its up to date.   So what is my next step?10:12
HieronymusBelutz: yes, or you could use available .deb or rpm packages10:12
glyph_ah dose it down load ActiveX10:12
HieronymusBelutz: try them, anyway10:12
Belutzok10:13
Tuxistlet do it10:13
tritiumep, if you use apt with repositories, it handles dependencies for you.  Why are you downloading it manually?10:13
TuxistHappyFool you have make my pakage10:13
tombsplease, what package do I need to record .mp3 on those little mp3 players?10:13
HappyFoolTuxist: i don't understand, sorry...10:14
Kyraltombs, like an iPod?10:14
Tuxistyou compile you make .deb10:14
glyph_foamy dose Point2play download ActiveX (got Steam to work almost needs an ActiveX control)10:14
HappyFoolTuxist: you've totally lost me10:14
glyph_in wine that is10:14
eptritium, I got used to version 2.x on my last OS.... universie only has version 1.10 available.... Totally different game with diferent servers running. You'd have to be a bzflag junkie to understand:)10:14
tombsKyral, yes but not something so good, some player from "creative"10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know i'm not shure i never ran into the isshue10:14
HappyFoolTuxist: i haven't compiled anything... ?10:14
Tuxistgo to hell10:14
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teferi_oh man, bzflag is fun10:15
tritiumTuxist, cut it out10:15
teferi_every server in teh world has a totally different personally hacked version, though10:15
thoreauputic!conduct10:15
ubotu[conduct]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view10:15
Tuxistand get me the deb10:15
glyph_i shoud try Point2Play Teferi_ yesh it is10:15
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thoreauputicTuxist: I suggest you read the bot's URl10:15
teferi_we used to play it in one of the engineering labs when i was at RPI10:15
epso anyway?10:15
teferi_i usually lost10:15
tritiumTuxist, please be polite, or you'll be escorted to the door...10:15
glyph_ah10:16
Tuxistno10:16
ralcis wine any good?10:16
Belutzis there any virtual machine software for linux?10:16
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Tuxistnot in the week please10:16
hsledmoutralc, wine is good for some things10:16
ralchsledmout, games?10:16
epwith that in mind, is my question valid?10:16
glyph_ralc yes only for certian programs some dont work10:16
hsledmoutralc, no10:16
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anto9usBelutz: qemu10:16
Tuxiston the weekend many devil mans with black wear bring to the door10:16
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hsledmoutralc ^^ qemu10:17
Tuxistxen10:17
Belutzanto9us, thx !!10:17
hsledmouthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo?highlight=%28qemu%2910:17
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G|immerwhy does my FAT32 partition mount as an empty mount-point?10:18
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itzif iwant to chmod an structure and want every files and folder within that structure to get same rules. what shall i use in that command line. tried to read man chmod but didnt understand it... prob due to my porr english10:19
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HappyFoolitz: the -R switch10:19
HappyFoolitz: what do you want to chmod?10:19
thoreauputicG|immer: possibly your /etc/fstab line for it is wrong10:19
sledmouthchmod -R username path10:19
itzgreat10:19
itzthx10:19
HappyFoolitz: please be careful ;) somebody chmod'ed /usr to 777 the other day, and got a very broken system10:19
Seveaseek10:19
HappyFoolyeah, you said it. i told him to reinstall10:20
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Belutzok, guys i need to back to my lousy windows to finish my .NET apps...10:20
itzHappyFool, gonna use 775 in my warez structure... shouldnt be any problem i guess?10:20
Belutzthanks a bunch for all of you... have a nice day all...10:20
HappyFoolitz: err. is warez in the lsb? ;)10:21
SeveasHappyFool, probably the best10:21
G|immerthoreauputic: brb, I will update XChat and then get back.10:21
itzlsb?10:21
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itzHappyFool, lsb ?! use simple english /me bad :P10:21
HappyFoolSeveas: yeah. i said *maybe* someone could mail him ls -lR for manual restoration -- then i found out there are ~ 100 000 files in /usr10:21
Seveaslinux standard base10:21
SDFH_Linuxhow do i get gaim 1.4 for ubuntu?10:21
HappyFoolitz: sorry, a silly joke10:21
SeveasHappyFool, /usr is indeed too big for that10:22
thoreauputicitz: there are usually very good reasons why the permissions are set as they are. Change them at your peril10:22
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Tuxistor amarok 1.3 cvs10:22
tombsKyral, do you know?10:22
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itzthoreauputic, well since i made this structure....10:23
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eliUbuntuanyone familiar with scp?10:23
naliotheliUbuntu: its part of ssh10:23
Drukewhere is 'gnomerc' located10:23
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anto9useliUbuntu: I've used it a few times10:23
mateoi have just installed ubuntu 5.04, and im having truble configurin the screen resolution10:23
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Seveasmateo: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:23
nalioth!resolution10:23
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:23
thoreauputicDruke: ~/.gnomerc i think (note the dot)10:24
SeveasDruke, ~/.gnomerc10:24
eliUbuntucan you use it to place a file from your computer onto another? i have only used it visa versa10:24
Drukethanks10:24
mateocan anyone helpme?10:24
HappyFoolwho is ubotu's owner?10:24
naliotheliUbuntu: that is what its for10:24
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naliotheliUbuntu: also 'sftp'10:24
naliothHappyFool: cafuego10:24
itzI could have made the structure in /home%usr but i did it in /home/xxx and now i want my %usr to get full rights in it... so maybe i shouldnt do 775 but thats what i did now :D10:24
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eliUbuntuso if i do: scp name@computer:/file /file10:24
HappyFoolnalioth: hrm, ok. not on now, i guess?10:24
eliUbuntuthat will take the file from my computer and place it on the other?10:25
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mateoi have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didnt work10:25
thoreauputiceliUbuntu: no, wrong way round10:25
Drukeso how does one edit ~/.gnomerc i am trying "gedit ~/.gnomerc"10:25
naliothHappyFool: believe he's asleep atm10:25
hno73Did anyone try the new OpenCD+Ubuntu live CD yet?10:25
hno73http://www.theopencd.org/10:25
akalloscan someone please give me an example of how to use sendmail?10:25
naliothDruke: with a text editor10:25
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thoreauputiceliUbuntu: scp /file user@other:/file10:25
akallosis it the same as telnet'ing to an smtp server?10:26
eliUbuntuah! thanks thoreaupetic and nalioth10:26
naliothakallos: you should never use telnet10:26
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naliothakallos: use ssh instead10:26
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akallosyeah, but I mean, the syntax once I'm into sendmail is the same?10:26
eliUbuntuis it true that bsd is better than linux? some computer programmer claimed this10:27
eliUbuntui found it hard to believe10:27
thoreauputiceliUbuntu: matter of usage and opinion10:27
eliUbuntuok, thanks10:27
thoreauputiceliUbuntu: sometimes yes, sometimes no10:27
akallosmostly sometimes10:28
G|immerthoreauputic: back. i am opening the partition as type vfat and options iocharset=utf8,umask=00010:28
naliothakallos: yes10:28
naliotheliUbuntu: BSD and linux are two tools for similar purposes10:28
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akallosnalioth: thanks, I'll try10:29
thoreauputicG|immer: I don't think fat32 recognises utf-8 but since I don't use windows I may be wrong10:29
naliotheliUbuntu: depending on what you need your hardware to do, they both have strong points10:29
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Hieronymusnalioth: linux is a kernel, bsd an os10:29
Tuxistbsd not linux all system tools from ubuntu must rewrite10:29
teferi_G|immer: it's not a good idea to mount with iocharset=utf8 for fat3210:29
teferi_G|immer: remember, fat32 is case-aware, but not case-sensitive normally10:30
naliothHieronymus: sorry10:30
teferi_if you mount with iocharset=fat32, it becomes case sensitive, and some things may behave oddly10:30
naliotheliUbuntu: in my previous statements, substitute "gnu-linux" for "linux"10:30
Aerebusok i'm freaking out here lol, my ubuntu system just crashed...it froze up, and i turned off the power button, now when it boots it says "non system disk or disk error, replace and strike any key when ready" how do i fix this?10:30
G|immerteferi: i got the setting from the web. But when it did not work, I removed it and put "rw,user,noauto" instead. and still did not work. lol10:31
naliothAerebus: your grub has gone away10:31
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Aerebuso dear10:31
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Aerebuswhat do i do?10:31
teferi_G|immer: that's another problem altogether...this is just advice for when you get it working...10:31
naliothAerebus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:31
amittpHi, does anyone use php4+mysql+apache2  on ubuntu?10:31
G|immerteferi: I do not know if this matters, but when in windows i did use partition magic and reduced the cluster size to 8K instead of 16k!10:31
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Seveasamittp, I do :)10:31
Aerebusnalioth i never installed windows...10:31
teferi_G|immer: irrelevant10:31
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anto9usAerebus: might be a silly question, there's no floppy disk in your floppy drive is there?10:32
G|immerteferi: so, am stuck then. hehe10:32
Aerebusno ;p10:32
amittpSeveas, do I have to install php4-mysql as well?10:32
Aerebusno cd in the cdrom either10:32
Seveasamittp, yes10:32
eliUbuntucan't you reinstall the grub with the cd you installed ubuntu with?10:32
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MoppinAerebus, that link nalioth is a decent read for restoring GRUB10:32
Seveasyou will need libapache2-mod-php4 (that will drag in apache) and php4-mysql10:32
Aerebusi dont know if i can or not... i'm new to linux10:32
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amittpSeveas, oh! and do u jknow if gdlib extension is present for php?10:32
naliothAerebus: but the procedure is the same for recovering grub10:32
Seveasamittp, package php4-gd10:33
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Tuxisthave smilies looks cool http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/emoticons/downloads/24482-Animated.tar.gz10:33
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Madpilotamittp: check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary10:33
Aerebusnalioth, am i looking at the section called Recovering GRUB Manually?10:33
amittpSeveas, u were great help :) thanks so much10:33
naliothAerebus: yes10:33
amittpMadpilot, :) ty10:33
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needsomehelpcan someone with a good knowledge of ubuntu and linux help me in compiling mplayer please i keep getting errors when tryinig to compile10:34
Madpilotamittp: I ran thru those instructions a few days ago, now have a full LAMP system w/ Hoary.10:34
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Madpilotamittp: and all locked up behind firestarter/iptables so I'm not open to the public...10:34
thoreauputicneedsomehelp: why are you compiling mplayer when it is available from the multiverse repo ?10:34
Seveasneedsomehelp, why do you want to compile it manually?10:34
hondje!resolution10:34
ubotuwell, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:34
amittpMadpilot, thatss what i wanted :)10:35
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needsomehelpsimply because the .deb doesn't contain libm3lame support10:35
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Madpilot!lamp10:35
ubotuMadpilot: I don't know10:35
amittpMadpilot, funnt, i didnt get nice result when i searched wiki10:35
Madpilotamittp: I've noticed that if you just search for "apache", for example, in the wiki you won't find that LAMP page10:36
Madpilotubotu lamp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary10:36
ubotuMadpilot: okay10:36
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G|immerIf I want Outlook-like email and contacts functionality, and also import my outlook email, what should I use? Thunderbird?10:37
teferi_G|immer: i like evolution10:37
needsomehelpso any ideas?10:37
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amittpMadpilot, hmm yeah same thing here10:38
G|immerteferi: hmm. did u compare it to Thunderbird?10:38
thoreauputicneedsomehelp: what are the errors? chances are you are missing -dev libraries10:38
G|immerto=with10:38
delireneedsomehelp: a good thing to do it closely read the dependencies for the application you are compiling. usually in 'INSTALL' or 'README'. make sure you install the *development libraries*. if, for instance they say you need "xvidcore4" then you would 'apt-cache search xvidcore4' and find it's development library libxvidcore4-dev.10:39
teferi_G|immer: i've used both10:39
Tomcat_Evolution is more Outlook-like than TB...10:39
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teferi_evolution also has the advantage of being able to talk to an Exchange server10:39
delireneedsomehelp: installing that will allow you to 'compile against' that library - hence providing xvidxore4 support in mplayer.10:39
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G|immeric. am not attached to the outlook-like thing as much as being able to import my emails and manage my contacts.10:39
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Tuxistkontakt more outlook 2000 evolution more outlook 200310:40
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teferi_G|immer: evolution should do that10:40
glyph_hi10:40
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G|immeri like that i can, and i do use it, put an image of the contact and notes in the notes field, for example.10:40
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HieronymusHow do I mix 2 video files into 1 file?10:40
glyph_will trillian wine?10:41
Tuxistmainactor10:41
delireTuxist: hehe isn't that extremely expensive?10:41
Tuxistdemo10:41
HappyFoolonly if you don't pay... ah, never mind10:41
needsomehelplet me post what i have hang oon10:41
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needsomehelpand i have been trying to do the reading as you stated10:41
delireHieronymus: i would use 'kino'.10:41
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glyph_opps10:41
glyph_hit the x10:41
delireneedsomehelp: use a pastebin, don't post the output here.10:41
G|immerHieronymus: VirtualDub I think.. but I used it on Windows. I believe it runs on Linux.10:41
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needsomehelpyeah i knoow han gon10:42
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Hieronymuskino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed10:42
Hieronymuskino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed10:42
Hieronymuskino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed10:42
Hieronymusgreat10:42
Tuxisthttp://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml10:42
delirekino: did you apt-get update first?10:43
deliresorry hehe10:43
delireHieronymus: did you apt-get update first?10:43
thoreauputicHieronymus: your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured10:43
delireor that, yes10:43
Hieronymusthoreauputic: yes, it includes breezy :p10:43
deliresilly10:43
thoreauputicHieronymus: ah well... all bets are off then ;)10:43
anto9usHieronymus: sometimes 'cat file1.avi file2.avi > newfile.avi' works10:43
delireHieronymus: you'll make a mess of your install. just like with all OS's it's best to move whole-version-to-whole-version.10:44
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G|immerTuxist: how to use the animated emoticons u suggested and/or where they are intented to be used?10:44
thoreauputicHieronymus: the only way to make that work safely is apt-pinning, and even then you are running risks10:45
Tuxistkopete cs version two clicks10:45
needsomehelphttp://pastebin.com/311479 sorry for the delay have my girlfriend trying to chat me haha10:45
Tuxisteasy to compile10:45
delireanto9us: hehe i'd like to see that actually work. what happens to the headers?10:45
thoreauputicneedsomehelp: hey, get your priorities straight ;-)10:45
delirelol thoreauputic10:46
anto9usdelire: as I say, sometimes it works10:46
delireanto9us: great, one for the record.10:46
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Tuxistg|immer http://kopete.kde.org10:46
needsomehelphaha10:47
amittpSeveas, do u use gdlib with php4?10:47
needsomehelpwell i'm here i'm just lost as to what to do next ;)10:47
needsomehelpthanks in advance10:47
Aerebusnalioth, ok it says Review your fstab and identify the location(s) of / and /boot/ whatdo i do here?10:47
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Aerebusi got a terminal open and i did mkdir /mnt/work and /mkdir mnt/work/boot10:48
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naliothAerebus: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/fstab"10:48
shinuanyone mind giving me the marillat repos? they dont seem to be on the ubuntuguide..10:48
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hondjedon't use marillat on ubuntu10:48
hondjeuse backports instead10:48
Seveasamittp, yes10:48
naliothshinu: you were at the ubuntuguide? <shudder>10:48
shinuok10:48
kbrooksshinu, marillat is incompatible with ubuntu10:48
kbrooksnalioth, shall i?10:49
thoreauputicneedsomehelp: did ./configure complete without errors? this is make output is it not?10:49
kbrooks!ubuntuguide10:49
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.10:49
Seveasamittp, for a nice example: www.ubuntu-nl.org/time?view=tb10:49
shinuwhy do ppl hate ubuntuguide so much? xD10:49
zukalkshinu, "Do not advise people to use marillat, Debian has moved on after the Hoary freeze and may/will cause dependency problems"10:49
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shinuok10:49
shinuill remember that10:49
naliothshinu: because it breaks ubuntu10:49
needsomehelpyeah10:49
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needsomehelp the ./configure worked fine10:49
kbrooksshinu, read ^^^^10:49
El_Chezukalk: it's already the case10:49
Seveasamittp, for a nice example: www.ubuntu-nl.org/time?view=techboard (this one is correct)10:49
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amittpSeveas, nice :)10:49
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IlomogaQuestion: Do I have to press a "Order" button or something like that if I order some Ubuntu CDs?10:50
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amittpSeveas, although gd.so is under /usr/lib/php4/20020429/gd.so, weird location10:50
shinuk10:50
shinuthanks everyone10:50
SDFH_Linuxanyway to add more repositories other than the ones in the ubuntu guide/10:50
Seveasamittp, not too weird if you know th php packaging details :)10:50
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SeveasSDFH_Linux, ubuntuguide is bad10:51
G|immerTuxist: ah. but I use gnome. Am sure i will find another use for them ;)10:51
kbrooksSDFH_Linux,10:51
kbrooks!ubuntuguide10:51
delireneedsomehelp: i have to run. look into 'rtp' dev package. perhaps libccrtp-dev10:51
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.10:51
Aerebusnalioth, ok it says: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 010:51
amittpSeveas, i added extension=gd.so in php.ini, but wondering what should i set extension_dir  to10:51
SDFH_LinuxSevea where do i go then10:51
MrMaDSeNhow do I install new themes from art.gnome.org?10:51
kbrookseveryone should use the ubuntuguide factoid.10:51
Seveasamittp, leave it as is10:51
SDFH_LinuxSeveas where do i go then?10:51
SeveasSDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com10:52
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needsomehelpok thanks will do10:52
amittpSeveas, commented or ./ ?10:52
SDFH_Linuxk10:52
Seveascommented10:52
Siropelhow come the ubuntu packages are not updated ? ... i mean ubuntu is still with firefox 1.0.2 when the latest is 1.0.410:52
Seveaslook at the bottom of php.ini10:52
kbrooksSiropel, they are.10:52
thoreauputicMrMaDSeN: download the theme and drag-drop it on to the themes dialog in gnome10:52
amittpokie10:52
SeveasSiropel, ff in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguide10:52
kbrooksSiropel, backported10:52
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Seveasdisguise*10:52
naliothMrMaDSeN: System > Rreferences > Themes10:52
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amittpshoot :)10:53
Seveasall 1.0.4 security patches have been applied, but for package management reasons the version has been kept at 1.0.310:53
Seveas1.0.2 i mean10:53
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kbrooksSeveas, should I make a factoid for that? :)10:53
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kbrooksSeveas, the question has been asked many times10:54
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Siropelthat is confusing ...i droped ubuntu for that10:54
El_CheSeveas: true, but auto install of extensions is broken because of the "version"10:54
Wa77zsorry for repeating, but, I cant seem to install a new enviorment, i used synaptic and installed enlightenment. but i catn get it to show up in my session list10:54
SeveasEl_Che: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.410:54
naliothSeveas: actually, only the security has been bp'd into ff, it still is missing the .4 featuresets10:54
thoreauputickbrooks: the factoid exists !firefox I believe10:54
kbrooks!firefox10:54
shinuthanks again everyone~10:54
ubotuit has been said that firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"10:54
Seveasnalioth, that's what I said10:54
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yourghetekgetting a md5sum mismatch error and i cant install apache 2! http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/31148310:54
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El_CheSeveas: I know that, but normal users are lost there10:55
naliothSeveas: El_Che: i'm lost too10:55
SeveasEl_Che, that's actually the fault of the lazy mozilla developers10:55
naliothSeveas: El_Che: probably why i dont use ff10:55
Madpilotyourghetek: change the .us archive for one of the others.10:55
eliUbuntuok, i tried: scp /filename name@computer:/file and i get this following error -> not a regular file10:55
amittpSeveas, ty :) that was no work10:55
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Wa77zok10:55
El_CheeliUbuntu: drop de /10:55
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kbrooksSeveas and nalioth and El_Che: define "backported" and maybe the newbies can understand what it means ;)10:55
Seveasyourghetek, us.archive.ubuntu.com is b0rking10:56
Seveasuse archive.ubuntu.com10:56
kbrooksjust a idea10:56
eliUbuntuok10:56
Seveaskbrooks, ack10:56
thoreauputicWa77z: you might have to use the gnome.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions as a template to make an entry10:56
MrMaDSeNnalioth: I just get File format is invalid10:56
Madpilot!backports10:56
ubotufrom memory, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/10:56
yourghetekSeveas: i did but it just went to us anyway10:56
El_Chebackported means addings stuff from newer versions into older versions10:56
Seveasyourghetek, run an apt-get update :)10:56
yourghetekdid10:56
El_Cheit's meant to fix problems without adding new one10:56
thoreauputicWa77z: possibly enlightenment failed to make an entry10:56
El_Chea debian stable oldie :)10:56
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sledmouthWa77z: did u try restarting gdm?10:56
Seveasyourghetek, then paste your sources.list on a pastebin :)10:56
Wa77zalright, ive never done that before though10:56
yourghetekk10:57
Wa77zand yes i tried that10:57
naliothMrMaDSeN: if the packager of the theme doesnt stick to gnome standards, i'm pretty much lost on advising you10:57
naliothMrMaDSeN: did you extract the contents of any file you d/l?10:57
G|immerFirefox works much better under Linux than under Windows. Under Windows it has some slugishness and does not seem to handle its cache properly.10:57
thoreauputicWa77z: it's not too hard - use the existing file I mentioned and change the relevant bits. Point it at /usr/bin/enlightenment10:57
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cyphaseG|immer, big surprise10:57
cyphase:)10:57
DanielHolthAh cache management, the bane of businesses everywhere.10:58
yourghetekerrr...10:58
Wa77zkk10:58
Wa77zthanks10:58
eliUbuntuEl_Che: same error comes up without the /10:58
MrMaDSeNnalioth: just drag & dropped from /tmp ?10:58
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yourghetekSeveas: http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/31148710:58
G|immercyphase: :) lol. In a way, I were. I though the code would be the same in both platforms. But perhaps some behaviors are because of windows.10:58
thoreauputicWa77z: you will need to use sudo to edit the file - and make sure you save it as enlightenment.desktop10:58
uber_newberhi im very new to linux and  im using a very only laptop, a tochiba tecra 8000, and i have a wireless lyknsis network adapter that i wanna install but i dont know10:59
El_CheeliUbuntu: what you want to doe exactly copy file to your home dir on the other server?10:59
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Wa77zya, alright , in my usr/share/xsessions/there is only a gnome folder10:59
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out10:59
naliothMrMaDSeN: lets start over...where is the original tar.gz or whatever?10:59
pankajghi10:59
yourghetekSeveas: and now its worse... http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/31148810:59
pankajgUNJOIN10:59
pankajgUNAJOIN10:59
eliUbuntuEl_Che: i want to copy a file from a directory that under the home directory and put it on another computer10:59
kbrookspankajg, hm?10:59
thoreauputicWa77z: it isn't a "folder" - it's a file called gnome.desktop10:59
uber_newberhi im very new to linux and  im using a very only laptop, a tochiba tecra 8000, and i have a wireless lyknsis network adapter that i wanna install but i dont know10:59
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out10:59
Seveasyourghetek, aight, i think i know what it is10:59
kbrooksuber_newber, don't repeat please11:00
Seveasyourghetek, apt-get clean11:00
Seveasand retry11:00
eliUbuntuEl_Che: it is not direct in the home directory though. it is in a file under the home directory11:00
cyphaseG|immer, Windows isn't exactly the best resource manager11:00
uber_newbersorry11:00
kbrooksuber_newber, be patient11:00
uber_newberk11:00
cyphaseand Firefox isn't about to manage memory in assembler11:00
Wa77zyes i know its nota folder, so i edit the gnome file or make anew one11:00
cyphase;)11:00
jcoxonuber_newber, i can help11:00
Seveasuber_newber, wiki.ubuntu.com/wifihowto11:00
MrMaDSeNnalioth: I extracted them to home/xxx/themes11:00
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uber_newberthanx11:00
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El_CheeliUbuntu: scp /home/filename server: or if you want to put it elsewhere : scp /home/filename server:/path/to/the/place11:00
naliothMrMaDSeN: that should be /home/xxx/.themes11:00
kbrooksMrMaDSeN, .themes11:00
jcoxonuber_newber, what exactly is the card?11:00
uber_newberit plugs into a usb port11:01
eliUbuntuEl_Che: thanks i will try that out11:01
uber_newberis that wut u mean11:01
kbrooks.....11:01
kbrooksthe model11:01
jcoxonuber_newber, plug it in, got to the terminal, type sudo lsusb11:01
uber_newberok lemme get it brb11:01
SDFH_Linuxwhats the best ubuntu guide?11:02
yourghetekSeveas: ... i love you11:02
SeveasSDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation11:03
jcoxonreckon its a WUSB54G11:03
musicman2059The wiki11:03
musicman2059:P11:03
yourghetekhow do i end an ssh gracefulkly?11:03
SeveasSDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex11:03
test34what are the minimum system requirements ?11:03
yourghetek*gracefully11:03
Seveasyourghetek, with exit11:03
El_Cheyourghetek: exit11:03
Seveasor <ctrl>D11:03
jcoxonuber_newber, what does it look like, a big square with an aerial?11:03
Seveasor logout11:03
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yourghetekthanks11:03
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Geist|Patrickhi11:04
kbrookstest34, lots of RAM and hard drive space11:04
uber_newberya, its rectangulared shaped, and blue and black11:04
naliothyourghetek: type 'exit'11:04
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Geist|Patricki have problems with my (k)ubuntu install11:04
DanielHolthSSH can be exited by the escape sequence ~.11:04
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DanielHolthSSH recognizes the ~ immediately after CR (enter/return) and a variety of letters make it do things. ~. exits ssh.11:04
Siropelis it safe to use ubuntu with the debian source list ?:D11:04
jcoxonuber_newber, what does it say on it?11:05
DanielHolthMuch akin to ^]  on telnet11:05
jcoxonuber_newber, anything at all that'll give a clue11:05
DanielHolthor was it ^[11:05
Geist|Patricki cant install synaptic11:05
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eliUbuntuEl_Che: this is what i tried -> scp home/myusername/fileDirectory/file server:/path/path2/file11:05
Geist|Patrickand my os languages is mixed up11:05
jasoncohenhow do i clear all print jobs?11:05
Geist|Patrickparts german, parts english11:05
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jasoncohenthe print queue shows nothing but it won't stop printing11:05
eliUbuntuand this comes up -> not a regular file11:05
El_CheeliUbuntu: thy this: scp /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file server:/path/path2/file11:05
naliothGeist|Patrick: synaptic should be under system > admin > synaptic11:05
El_CheeliUbuntu: with the / before home11:06
eliUbuntuok11:06
Geist|Patrickmy basic system is Kubuntu...11:06
uber_newberjcxon> lyknsis wireless b usb network adapter11:06
Geist|Patrickit only has Kynotpic11:06
hondje!java11:06
ubotumethinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:06
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Geist|Patrickbut it lacks of synoptic, which IMO has the better handling :/11:06
uber_newberbrb11:06
moirehi, can somebody help building wine?11:06
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El_Chemoire: is it not in the repositories?11:07
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jcoxonuber_newber, on the back does it say WUSB11 anywhere?11:07
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glyph_How do I get Kilk11:07
moireEl_Che: yes it is, but i try to build from sources11:07
jcoxonuber_newber, and i'm assuming its a 'linksys'11:07
eliUbuntuEl_Che: same problem. maybe this helps. the error states -> /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file: not a regular file11:07
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El_CheeliUbuntu: can you give me the output of this command: ls -la /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file11:08
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glyph_is any one gonna answer my question?11:08
naliothglyph_: perhaps nobody knows what kilk is?11:08
hondjemy magic 8-ball says 'maybe'11:09
El_Cheglyph_: sorry, I don't know kilk11:09
glyph_could be its a KDE app11:09
eliUbuntuEl_Che: its a long output since there a lot of files in it11:09
Geist|Patrickwhy doesnt synoptic fails to install here?11:09
uber_newberya lyknsis11:09
Seveasglyph_, try #kubuntu11:09
glyph_ok11:09
hondjekilk or klik11:09
eliUbuntudont dare to post it on the chat... did that once before by accident and the people were not happy11:09
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uber_newberwsb11 v.2.811:09
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Siropelis it safe to use ubuntu with the debian source list ?:D11:10
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naliothSiropel: if you want a broken ubuntu11:10
jcoxonuber_newber, okay one sec i'll tell you the driver11:10
eliUbuntuEl_Che: scp is made to transfer folders corret?11:10
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Siropelnalioth but there are aplications that are not in the ubuntu repo ...11:10
naliothSiropel: do you have all the repos enabled?11:11
uber_newberk11:11
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Siropelnalioth yes11:12
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naliothSiropel: what program are you after?11:12
Siropelnalioth mc :D11:12
Siropelas in midnight commander :D11:12
naliothSiropel: mc is in universe, i believe11:12
thoreauputicSiropel: mc is in the repos11:12
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nalioths_dogSiropel: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:12
nalioths_dogSiropel: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:13
Siropeli`ll look it up :D11:13
Siropeli know how to add them :D11:13
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Geist|Patrickplz... i need help guys :(11:13
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Geist|Patricki cant figure out why it doesnt work :/11:13
El_CheeliUbuntu: aaah11:13
El_CheeliUbuntu: it's a directory?11:13
eliUbuntuEl_Che: yes11:14
El_CheeliUbuntu: scp -r dir server:/dir11:14
naliothGeist|Patrick: are you using a terminal to install synaptic?11:14
eliUbuntuoh11:14
Geist|Patrickja11:14
naliothGeist|Patrick: and what error does it give?11:14
El_CheeliUbuntu: you can also do this graphically through nautilus (gnome) or konqueror (kde)11:14
Geist|Patricka moment...11:14
jcoxonuber_newber, okay i've found the driver11:14
naliothGeist|Patrick: if its more than one line, paste it or use #flood11:15
uber_newberk11:15
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jcoxonuber_newber, want me to walk you through how to install them11:15
uber_newberyes please11:15
Siropelwould you put ubuntu in the category of one of the best distros ever ?11:15
eliUbuntuEl_Che: success =-D11:15
eliUbuntuEl_Che: thanks11:15
xfSxanyone know why i don't get any menus when i right click the desktop in gnome? i installed gnome packages manually, which did i miss?11:15
El_CheeliUbuntu: no problem11:15
thoreauputicSiropel: you'll get a biased answer in #ubuntu ;)11:16
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Geist|Patrickwhere can i paste it , nalioth11:16
Geist|Patrickits about 20lines11:16
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mbirkisis there any way to get rar support into the archive manager in ubuntu?11:16
naliothGeist|Patrick: come to #flood11:16
El_Che?11:16
Geist|Patrickand its german...11:16
dh0hello. i was intalling libjpeg62-dev and i had a MD5sum mismatch. i tried cleaning a re downloading. same problem. what should i do?11:16
Geist|Patrick:/11:16
El_Chesorry11:16
Seveasmbirkis, you will have to install the rar package whichc costs money11:17
thoreauputicmbirkis: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree from multiverse repo11:17
Seveasthoreauputic, afaik archive-manager needs rar too11:17
Seveas(but I might be wrong)11:17
thoreauputicah, OK11:17
mbirkisthoreauputic: i did it... but it doesn't work within the archive manager11:17
bimberidh0: There are issues with the us mirror at present ...11:17
bimberi!usmirror11:17
ubotuusmirror is, like, if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:17
eliUbuntudh0: its a repository probelm. are you using us.* links for the repository?11:17
Geist|Patrickthats my next problem on the todo list...11:17
thoreauputicmbirkis: OK looks like Seveas is right then11:17
naliothdh0: edit all the instances of us. out of your sources.list (as in you'll end up with archive.ubuntu, instaed of us.archive.bla)11:17
mbirkisthoreauputic: it only works command line :(11:18
Geist|Patrickmy gui is totally mixed with english and german parts :/11:18
dh0thanks bimberi and eliUbuntu11:18
eliUbuntuno problem :)11:18
naliothGeist|Patrick: you are using a default kubuntu?11:18
Geist|Patrickyep11:18
SeveasGeist|Patrick, paste the ouptut of locale -a on a pastebin11:18
bimberidh0: yw :)11:18
naliothGeist|Patrick: then try this: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"11:19
GigaClon00:00.624: Couldn't load driver OSS: RageSound_OSS: Couldn't open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, is there a way to see how this is busy11:19
GigaCloncause I can't find it11:19
dh0lol, i did that and then ran apt-get update and had tons of errors. looked back and realized i deleted "us" and not "us."11:19
thoreauputicnalioth: heh - big download to fix locales on kubuntu - is that necessary?11:19
SeveasGigaClon, esd is hogging it11:20
nalioththoreauputic: no, he has lots of dependencys for synaptic11:20
bimberidh0: :)11:20
SeveasGigaClon, teach the program you are using to use esd instead of OSS11:20
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Geist|Patrickargh... pastebin... i need a link11:20
thoreauputicnalioth: ah I see11:20
SeveasGeist|Patrick, see topic11:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=64 <---= read the last entry everyone11:20
GigaClonwhat is esd11:20
kbrooks?11:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYreviews welcome ^_^11:21
GigaClonSeveas: how am i do to that11:21
Seveasenlightenment sound daemon, the solution Ubuntu uses for sound11:21
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, "everyone"?11:21
Tuxisteat smoke doener11:21
Madpilot!pastebin11:21
ubotuI guess pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood11:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwell everyone that wants too11:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYyour choice ^_^11:21
SeveasGigaClon, which program are you using11:21
dh0w00t. it worked11:21
GigaClonStepMania11:21
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SeveasGigaClon, hmm, don't know that one11:21
Seveastry killall esd before runnign it11:21
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Seveasyou'll lose all other sounds then11:22
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MrMaDSeNwhat do I put login themes?11:22
GigaClonSeveas: think pydance but better11:22
MrMaDSeN*where*11:22
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/49911:22
SeveasMr_Smiley, look at http://art.gnome.org/faq.php11:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas you should read the last entry too ^_^11:22
SeveasMrMaDSeN, that one was for you11:22
GigaClonhow do start it back up when it is done?11:22
SeveasGigaClon, esd &11:23
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, you need an account on the forums to read it. Ridiculous...11:23
SeveasGeist|Patrick, :|11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know but it's worth it11:23
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Seveasyour locale is FUBAR :)11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYor i could pastebin it for ya11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYif you want11:23
SeveasGeist|Patrick, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:23
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, please do :)11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk11:23
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SeveasGeist|Patrick, and only enable locales you actually use11:24
SeveasGeist|Patrick, and put the output of locale (with no arguments) on the wiki too, together with the contents of /etc/environment11:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor all those who arnt regesterd with the forums but would like to read this entry here11:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://pastebin.com/31150411:25
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, thnx for the shout :)11:26
Geist|Patrickurm...11:26
Geist|Patrickwhat should i do first?11:26
SeveasGeist|Patrick, whatever you like :)11:26
Geist|Patrickwell.. which command is starting the language setup11:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas anytime man you deserve it ^_^11:27
sky_monkey007has anyone here tried aptitude instead of synaptic?11:27
thoreauputicSeveas: I agree it's absurd! We can't read an entry like this? What the hell are they thinking?11:27
Geist|Patricki  forgot it again ;(11:27
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deadcatsomeone post me the line with the transset and xcompmgr from sources.list please.11:27
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kbrooksdpkg-reconfigure locales11:27
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SeveasGeist|Patrick, dpkg-reconfigure locales11:27
SDFH_Linuxhow often do they update the ubuntu repos?11:27
Seveasdeadcat: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:27
Wa77zsweet !, i got enlightenment working, but, i really just dont know how to use it that well11:27
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, uh. why?11:27
deadcatSeveas: thanks11:28
kbrooks!sources.list11:28
ubotuI don't know, kbrooks11:28
thoreauputicWa77z: the edit worked then?11:28
Wa77znow on to bigger problems, anyone know how to fix sound ?11:28
Wa77zand yes thoreauputic it works11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just felt that it was about time that someone said thank you to the people who help everyone11:28
kbrooksheh.11:28
SDFH_Linuxwhen breezy becomes final do we have to reinstall?11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYand seeing as i diden't see it before on the forums i figured that i would do it ^_^11:28
cmathesonhey anyone tried out the courier mail stuff?  i see that the version is only .47, but it seems like a sweet system, how stable is it? (i'm wanting to run it on a very large system...)11:29
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, no11:29
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, hoary is frozen'11:29
Geist|PatrickSeveas: now i have 4 strings... en_us utf8/iso**-1 de_de utf8 and iso**-1511:29
HieronymusSDFH_Linux: you can update11:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYubotu even got a mention in my blog he's funnie ^_^ for a bot11:29
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, ChurcH_of_FoamY11:29
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, no one will force you to update11:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYsee lol11:29
SDFH_Linuxso we can easily update to breezy11:29
HieronymusSDFH_Linux: yes11:29
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, not even a program11:29
HieronymusSDFH_Linux: change a few settings, download a few hundred megs, that's all11:30
SDFH_Linuxk11:30
SeveasGeist|Patrick, ditch the ISO-* locales11:30
kbrooksheh11:30
SDFH_Linuxwhen is breezy suppose to be frozen?11:30
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, bugger all, i dunno11:30
naliothSDFH_Linux: october 1011:30
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: nice gesture, man - thanks :)11:30
Wa77zwhats the command to se if also is working ?11:30
Wa77zalsa**11:30
SeveasSDFH_Linux, feature freeze has started already11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic anytime man ^_^ you guys works so hard you deserve it ^_^11:31
SDFH_Linuxneat11:31
ed1twhere do i get xmessage from?11:31
HieronymusChurcH_of_FoamY: link to your blogpost?11:31
SeveasSDFH_Linux, the various stages of freezing are described on the wiki11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk11:31
SDFH_Linuxk11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYHieronymus http://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=6411:31
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: had a gigle about your monk reference - if only you knew... heheh11:31
Geist|Patrickhow do i enable the german stuff now11:31
Geist|Patrickwhere can i switch?11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic lol i hope i diden't offend you i wasen't tryin too >.<11:32
SeveasGeist|Patrick, you can set the locale you prefer with that dpkg-reconfigure11:32
SeveasGeist|Patrick, but unfortunately not all programs have german translations yet11:32
Geist|Patricki did, but my interface is still mixed up11:32
Geist|Patrickkde menu is english11:32
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: not at all - it's funny for reasons I won't discuss here :)11:32
Geist|Patrickbut it should be german i guess11:32
Wa77zsudo alsa  ?11:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:32
Seveasyou need to restart X for changes to take effect11:32
Geist|Patrickk... i'll do it later11:33
Geist|Patrickcan't i switch the languages on the fly?11:33
dell500what's a good pdf viewer?? i was wondering if anything had the pages on the side of the document11:33
SeveasGeist|Patrick, yes11:33
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Geist|Patrickhow?11:33
sledmouthasdf11:33
sledmouthsdf11:33
Seveasyou can set environment variables like: export LANG=de_DE.UTF-811:33
naliothdell500: evince11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamY!distrowatch11:34
ubotuI haven't a clue, ChurcH_of_FoamY11:34
Seveasor simply start a single program with a specified locale like: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 firefox11:34
Geist|PatrickSeveas: which file contains them?11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYlooking for the distrowatch boards11:34
SeveasGeist|Patrick, /etc/environment11:34
Geist|Patrickk11:34
Wa77zaight, is there aknown problem with alsa and ATI IXP sound cards11:34
GigaClonSeveas:  is ALSA similarly "inflicted"?11:34
Geist|Patrickso there is no alt+shift and the whole interface switches?11:34
SeveasGigaClon, indeed11:34
crimsunWa77z: use snd_atiixp from alsa-source in universe11:34
crimsun!tell Wa77z about alsa-source11:35
SDFH_Linuxhow can you get quicktime files to play11:35
SeveasSDFH_Linux: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:35
naliothSDFH_Linux: libquicktime11:35
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Seveassomewhere over there it is mentioned11:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O11:36
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dell500sudo apt-get install evince will put it in the menu right?11:37
kbrooksim not moving anywhere :P11:37
Seveasdell500, yes11:37
naliothdell500: it should, i always run it from command line11:37
Seveasunder graphics11:37
kbrooksman. i like this11:37
dell500aw ok11:37
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dell500got it, thanks11:37
kbrooksi faked the windows11:37
kbrooksinterface11:37
naliothkbrooks: xpde?11:37
Geist|Patrickok... the language problem will i solve later...11:37
Geist|Patrickhow do i install S ynoptic now?11:38
kbrooksnalioth, uh no11:38
Geist|Patrickit still fails in the console11:38
kbrooksnalioth, talking gnome move around11:38
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Seveassynaptic is a GUI application11:38
Seveasfrom the terminal you start it with sudo synaptic11:38
Geist|Patrickit failed to install11:38
Geist|Patricknecessary files dont install :/11:39
Seveashuh...11:39
kbrooksok11:39
naliothSeveas: Geist|Patrick was trying to apt-get synaptic (he's running default kubuntu)11:39
kbrooksi'll ss this...11:39
SeveasGeist|Patrick, are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror?11:39
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nalioths_dogGeist|Patrick: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:39
pepsixis ubuntu-desktop _everything_11:39
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pepsix?11:39
Hieronymuspepsix: no11:39
pepsixoh, cause i broke my system and ive almost fixed it11:40
Hieronymuspepsix: it's the desktop installation. Gnome with applications for basic desktop usage11:40
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Geist|Patricksynoptic output11:40
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/50011:40
pepsixhrm11:40
pepsixwhat would be the rest of the system than?11:40
Geist|Patrickbereitstellt, ist nicht installiert. <-- missing file11:40
KlaasVHello all, I got myself a new nvidia graphics. The card which I am using right now is also a nvidia card + nvidia driver. But I was wondering if there are any problems when I switch the cards, because I never done this before on a linux OS. And do I need to uninstall the nvidia driver before I switch the cards?11:40
Wa77zis there a tool to convert avit o dvd for linux ?11:40
SeveasGeist|Patrick, please disable backports...11:40
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Geist|Patrickwhat are backports?11:41
The_VoxKlaasV: just shut down the computer, change cards, boot, enjoy your new card11:41
SeveasGeist|Patrick, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin11:41
kbrooksok :P11:42
kbrooksgood11:42
kbrooksnow to show the ss :)11:42
Wa77zcrimsun, that bot confused the Sh** out of me, maybe u could elaborate ?11:42
parabolizeI updated my iriver player to the ifp890us-ums128 with a windows box but my ubuntu box is still getting a error with dmesg. The player is working as a ums device in windows... I'm lost.11:42
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thechitowncubswww.thechitowncubs.com/test  , how can i position that now offline image to the very top right of my page?11:43
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Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/50111:43
Seveasthechitowncubs, wrong channel :)11:43
CrutonmanHey, is there anyway to bypass an error like this ? "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xfce4-taskbar-plugin/xfce4-taskbar-plugin_0.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb11:43
Crutonman  MD5Sum mismatch11:43
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Seveas!usmirror11:43
uboturumour has it, usmirror is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:43
Crutonman"11:43
musicman2059anyone here know of a good GIF animator tool?11:43
thechitowncubsSeveas: any channel recommendations?11:43
SeveasCrutonman, read what ubotu said11:44
Crutonmanalright cool, thanks11:44
Seveasthechitowncubs, no idea :)11:44
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kbrooksnow to....11:44
Hieronymus!forget usmirror11:44
kbrookserm11:44
ubotui forgot usmirror, Hieronymus11:44
kbrooks!unforget usmirror11:44
ubotukbrooks: Successfully recovered 'usmirror'.  Have fun now.11:44
kbrooksessential, Hieronymus11:44
^thehatsrule^...11:45
SeveasGeist|Patrick, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/50211:45
kbrookscanned answers are important11:45
Seveasuse that as your sources.list11:45
Hieronymus!usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
ubotu...but usmirror is already something else...11:45
pepsixso what packages contain the whole base system?11:45
pepsixubuntu-base?11:45
Hieronymus!forget usmirror11:45
ubotui forgot usmirror, Hieronymus11:45
Hieronymus!usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
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TobiasFarubuntu doen't boot corectly here....dns doen't work, kdm starts(no mouse there), gnome doesn't start after login11:45
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Hieronymus!usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
ubotuHieronymus: okay11:45
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kbrooksSeveas, ?11:45
Hieronymus!usmirror11:45
ubotumethinks usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
Wa77zcorrection, my sound does work, just nor for apps11:46
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Seveas!forget usmirror11:46
ubotui forgot usmirror, Seveas11:46
Seveasusmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
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kbrooksSeveas, what did he do?11:46
GigaClon!GigaClon is cheesy grits11:46
ubotuGigaClon: okay11:46
SeveasHieronymus, don't just change perfectly fine entries11:46
kbrooksGigaClon!11:46
DiscipulusWhy isn't the US mirror working?11:46
Geist|Patrickok11:46
kbrooks!forget GigaClon11:46
ubotui forgot gigaclon, kbrooks11:46
kbrooksdont11:46
SeveasDiscipulus, it has errors11:46
Discipulus+q ?11:46
Geist|Patricknow apt-get udate i guess11:46
GigaClonok11:47
pepsixubotu is noisy :P11:47
SeveasGeist|Patrick, correct :)11:47
ubotuI don't know, pepsix11:47
kbrooksdont. play. with. the. bot.11:47
pepsixexactly11:47
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Geist|Patrickwhats next?11:47
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Seveasapt-get install synaptic :)11:47
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Wa77zona  1-10 scale, how hard is it to build ur own kernel so it has support for APic- mode in bios11:48
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strHi there... anyone with a soundcard realtek AC97?11:49
Wa77zi11:49
naliothWa77z: that is a subjective question11:49
Wa77zi dont know11:49
Wa77zim not sure what u mean by subjective11:49
pepsixtwas a bumpy ride to breezy, but i made it11:49
pepsix:D11:49
rwabelhi11:50
naliothWa77z: for some of us, making a kernel is something we do b4 breakfast, while others hear 'kernel' and start looking at soldiers11:50
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/50311:50
rwabelanyone an idea how I can fix that: Failed to start message bus: Failed to open /etc/dbus-1/session.conf: No such file or directory11:50
kbrookspepsix, note we dont support breezy11:50
Wa77zlmao11:50
rwabelI've already tried with --reinstall11:50
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pepsixkbrooks, and?11:50
Wa77zwell, it is something I must learn11:50
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naliothWa77z: there are many good howtos, via google11:50
naliothWa77z: start at www.tldp.org11:50
Wa77zaight, nothing i prolly couldnt have found already, i just felt like procrastonating11:51
Wa77zis that spelled right ?11:51
Geist|Patrickwell it didnt helped11:51
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naliothWa77z: is whut spelt write?11:51
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Wa77zprocrastonating ?11:52
Wa77zits my first time typin that out i think11:52
naliothWa77z: we don't care, as long as you are understood11:52
kbrooksthat isnt right11:52
MingoI have following question, is there a icq client available for ubuntu?11:52
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Wa77zi knew it11:52
kbrooksbut we dont care.....11:52
naliothMingo: yes, gaim11:52
kbrooks;)11:52
Mingothanks :)11:52
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MingoAnd I can use every "debian package" with ubuntu?11:53
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Discipulusis there anything good from converting a .mp3 to a .ogg ?11:53
naliothMingo: if you want a broken ubuntu11:53
Mingono11:53
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naliothDiscipulus: you will lose sound quality doing that11:53
Geist|PatrickDiscipulus: only if u want loose soundquality11:53
Discipulusoh11:53
Discipulusdamn11:53
Discipulusalright11:53
DiscipulusI won't do it then :-P11:53
naliothDiscipulus: better to rip straight to ogg11:53
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Geist|Patrickor buy it as ogg... all**mp3.*o*11:54
Geist|Patrick;) ;)11:54
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naliothGeist|Patrick: do they sell ogg music?11:54
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itzi cant change sudo password?11:54
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Geist|Patricki stil have not account there11:55
Geist|Patrickbut they sell per MB11:55
Seveasitz, sudo password == your password11:55
BockBilboanyone here knows if google is working ok?11:55
Geist|Patrickthey encode in quality and format of ur choice11:55
BockBilboi cannot connect to their site11:55
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itzSeveas, doesnt help... still old password11:55
Geist|Patrickcoze i have no creditcard i will need paypal11:55
Edenyep11:55
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naliothitz: no, use YOUR password with sudo11:55
Igg-manBockBilbo: google seems fine here11:55
Geist|Patrickbut i actually have no time to make one account11:55
BockBilbo:S11:55
EdenGoogle works cool!11:55
itzSeveas, shall i somehow define what usr i should change password to11:55
BockBilbowierd... doesnt work here11:56
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Madpilotgoogle works great here...11:56
Igg-manBockBilbo: Do other sites work?11:56
BockBilboyep11:56
cut0ffhi there11:56
itznalioth, i cant have a special password for sudp?11:56
Seveasitz, for the user who uses sudo...11:56
BockBilboneverming, after like 10 attemps it worked11:56
Igg-manBockBilbo: Hmm... might be a routing issue at your ISP perhaps11:56
Seveasitz, no11:56
BockBilboits wierd though11:56
itz:(11:56
BockBilboIgg-man, yes11:56
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Igg-manBockBilbo: tracepath or traceroute show anything?11:56
itzyeah i would like to have a special password for sudo....11:56
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Madpilothow google works (really!): http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html11:57
BockBilboIgg-man, its fixed11:57
Igg-manBockBilbo: what was it?11:57
Madpilotitz: you don't need a special sudo pw, that's pretty much the point of sudo...11:57
Igg-manitz: perhaps you can use 'su' instead11:58
Geist|Patrickwhat shall i do now11:58
Geist|Patricki have no idea how to fix that issue11:58
BockBilboIgg-man, no idea11:58
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BockBilbobut it didnt work like for 5 minutes11:58
BockBilboquite wierd11:58
zyrrhello, i have mounted my windows fs now, and i can acces it with root rights from teminal, but not from the file lister because i do not have permissions, what should i do11:58
itzMadpilot,  but if i want a user to not have sudo option shall i chmod sudo or something then?11:58
naliothitz: no, you have that user in a restricted group11:59
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mm23I think there's problems with the us.archive ubuntu repositories11:59
Seveaszyrr, add umask=0000 to the options in /etc/fstab11:59
mm23if I apt-get anything from them I get missing package errors and MD5 Sum mismatch errors11:59
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naliothmm23: there is11:59
Seveas!usmirror11:59
Igg-manzyrr: how did you mount it?11:59
ubotuSeveas: I don't know11:59
nalioth!usrepos11:59
ubotunalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:59
itznalioth, ok...  hmm still i think to have possiblity to have an special sudo password would be nice11:59
Madpilotitz: I think you need to go to System --> Admin... --> Users & Groups11:59
Seveasusmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list11:59
mm23just changing it to archive.ubuntu fixes it11:59
Seveasubotu usmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list12:00
ubotuSeveas: okay12:00
zyrrigg-man> mount -t ntfs12:00
Seveasthere12:00

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