[12:00] <Razor-X> fatfreepork: you can use pork ;) a CLI AIM client
[12:00] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: Did you catch the last question?
[12:00] <heapifyman> what's a MOTU?
[12:00] <HappyFool> it's a he-man sidekick
[12:00] <crimsun> Razor-X: yeah, the schedule rotates to accomodate everyone
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: no, there's too many questions and I can't really keep up, sorry
[12:00] <supernix> Are the ubuntu packages the same as the kubuntu packages?
[12:00] <crimsun> heapifyman: we maintain the universe and multiverse packages. wiki/MOTU
[12:00] <dizzie> CenterICQ is a nice cosole multi im client too :P
[12:00] <echylo> question, when I change the color of panels in gnome, the apps on it like gnome menu won't change color, can I tweak that?
[12:00] <Razor-X> crimsun: then... I doubt i'll be able to attend the next meeting
[12:00] <Razor-X> dizzie: I just use TNT meself
[12:00] <claudiogzq> hola
[12:00] <fatfreepork> i got plastik theme in a .gz file, do i need to extract it first?
[12:00] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: I see. Just wanted to know if you knew how to do what you mentioned
[12:01] <biovore> fumbalah: you using the default mirror?>
[12:01] <seth_k> fumbalah: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all us. (so now it's just http://archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:01] <claudiogzq> por la reconchetumareeeeeeee
[12:01] <claudiogzq> hijos de puta
[12:01] <crimsun> Razor-X: ok, try and make it to one
[12:01] <claudiogzq> son of a bith
[12:01] <seth_k> fatfreepork: plastik is for KDE, and it's installed by default
[12:01] <claudiogzq> bitch
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: no, I don't, but an instance where someone did that is documented on the forums, let me find it
[12:01] <defendguin> does ubuntu have oss installed or does it just have alsa?
[12:01] <claudiogzq> fuck you
[12:01] <Razor-X> or open /etc/apt/sources.list in your favorite editor
[12:01] <fatfreepork> ahh crap
[12:01] <dizzie> Razor-X i use Gaim atm, its dodgy but it does the job nicely
[12:01] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: thanks :)
[12:01] <claudiogzq> fuck you all
[12:01] <Razor-X> (if you haven't changed $EDITOR and $VISUAL)
[12:01] <crimsun> claudiogzq: cut the offensive language
[12:01] <Razor-X> dizzie: TNT is amecs only
[12:01] <claudiogzq> why?
[12:01] <HappyFool> someone seems to be targeting #ubuntu. most annoying
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: we're talking about installing an older .deb, right?
[12:01] <biovore> what is up with archive.us.ubuntu.org anyway.. we ever going to update the default to point to something that works.. ?
[12:01] <Razor-X> claudiogzq: your words scare me, that's why
[12:02] <fatfreepork> Is there an OSX them for gnome?
[12:02] <Razor-X> *emacs
[12:02] <HappyFool> biovore: probably just a temporary glitch
[12:02] <claudiogzq> where are you from razor-x?
[12:02] <seth_k> fatfreepork: http://gnome-look.org
[12:02] <dizzie> Razor-X *srug* never seen it, and tbh i only use msn protocol
[12:02] <HappyFool> biovore: wait till after the w/e
[12:02] <ompaul> claudiogzq, (A) it is not nice (B) you will be banned (C) you are showing yourself to be a mature person by being somewhere you don't seem to want to be
[12:02] <Razor-X> HappyFool: I don't call 4 months temporary
[12:02] <crimsun> claudiogzq: you're obviously not following the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[12:02] <biovore> well it been a glitch for a few months now.. -_-
[12:02] <Computer__Guru> okay, ever since i installed gtk2-engines-qt, and set gtk styles & fonts to use my kde theme, gaim crashes (a lot).. anybody know why that would be
[12:02] <jnc> hey gang, i'm runnning a 32-bit dchroot and there are issues with ATI 3d accel.   my breezy install is 64-bit native.   so far i have run into a number of issues and solved them.  i am now stuck wondering why SHM access is denied
[12:02] <Razor-X> dizzie: you've never seen emacs?!?!
[12:02] <heapifyman> is there a way to let ubuntu automount zip-disks just like it does with cds or usb-sticks?
[12:02] <jnc> a little help from someone who knows?
[12:02] <HappyFool> Raptoid: hasn't it been working in between?
[12:02] <claudiogzq> jajaja
[12:02] <HappyFool> err
[12:02] <dizzie> ahh emacs, lol yep
[12:02] <HappyFool> Razor-X
[12:02] <svu_> arrgh, mplayer gives compile errors on g5 :(((
[12:02] <daniels> tiglionabbit: it's 0800, dude, I'm split between IRC and getting breakfast
[12:02] <claudiogzq> sorry.....i dont speak or write english
[12:03] <biovore> svu: #mplayer
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> daniels: sorry.  We just had a lot of AOL spamming and stuff
[12:03] <claudiogzq> y si hablo en espaol hijo de puta?
[12:03] <Crutonman> cd /etc
[12:03] <Crutonman> dir
[12:03] <Crutonman> mt
[12:03] <seth_k> mmm, thanks crimsun
[12:03] <seth_k> you're my hero
[12:03] <Razor-X> claudiogzq: nos hablamos espanol
[12:03] <echylo> question, when I change the color of panels in gnome, the apps on it like gnome menu won't change color, can I tweak that?
[12:03] <fumbalah> seth_k: thanks
[12:03] <svu_> biovore, is it well known problem?
[12:03] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: We're talking about installing the libc6-version from the ubuntu resp. over a manually installed .deb file from the debian resp.
[12:03] <Razor-X> #ubuntu-es habla espanol
[12:03] <Razor-X> and that's the best I can do ;)
[12:04] <HappyFool> i don't think he really cares
[12:04] <dizzie> Razor-X emacs hates me, i stick to vi and nano :P
[12:04] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: Using Debians libc6 version on a ubuntu system obviousley isn't a good idea
[12:04] <Razor-X> dizzie: vi is ok, but nano?!
[12:04] <Razor-X> how can emacs hate you?
[12:04] <jnc> hey all, i just found a forum post with the fix
[12:04] <jnc> thanks anyways
[12:04] <dizzie> Razor-X Human error 40 i think :)
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: okay, I found the forum post.  In it, they fix kubuntu-desktop by saying sudo apt-get install konversation=0.16-1ubuntu1 .  Find the version that you want to install, and um, force it over using the = sign perhaps..   I don't really know a lot about this though
[12:04] <ameoba> Razor-X: your spanish is better than mine - "Donde esta mi pantalones" is all I can muster
[12:04] <biovore> as some wize unix guy once said..  "Hey let someone else have some CPU cycles, stop using EMACS"  :-)
[12:05] <Razor-X> dizzie: ;)
[12:05] <Razor-X> ameoba: ;)
[12:05] <dizzie> Razor-X :)
[12:05] <Razor-X> well, occasionally my Spanish devolves into French
[12:05] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: thanks, i'll try
[12:05] <concept10> jasoncohen, you still around
[12:05] <medgno> help, is there any way to see what programs are sending data over the network?
[12:05] <jasoncohen> concept10, yeah, hey
[12:05] <ompaul> biovore, guess it was not RMS then
[12:05] <biovore> netstat -nal
[12:05] <crimsun> medgno: try ntop
[12:05] <Razor-X> biovore: give someone in poverty some clothes -- stop wearing your own ;)
[12:05] <dizzie> Razor-X Worst editor? ... I say pico :)
[12:05] <fatfreepork> when i go to click the download of Rpanther, it takes me to the guy's homepage
[12:05] <biovore> rofl
[12:05] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, that was my forum post..the problem has been fixed. Mez told me he fixed it
[12:05] <Razor-X> dizzie: fromwhence nano was based on? ;)
[12:06] <Razor-X> *from whence
[12:06] <gizmo82> hi
[12:06] <concept10> jasoncohen, are you good with solving dependencies?
[12:06] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: Maneiten is trying to fix up after installing a libc6 .deb
[12:06] <Maneiten> tiglionabbit: Thanks! ;)
[12:06] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: ewwww!!! a libc6 deb
[12:06] <Razor-X> that's nasty stuff
[12:06] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: did it work?
[12:06] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, i thought you were referring to the konversation 0.18 problem with kdelibs4 3.4.1
[12:06] <dizzie> Razor-X i stick to vi, or quanta :P
[12:06] <aarcane> how does one use the RPM command to install an rpm file in ubuntu ?
[12:06] <Razor-X> dizzie: never heard of the latter
[12:06] <jasoncohen> concept10, pretty good- i've been spending a lot of time looking for dependency problems on backport packages
[12:06] <gizmo82> i have problems with install anjuta on ubuntu
[12:06] <Razor-X> is it CLI based?
[12:06] <dizzie> Razor-X i stick to vi, or quanta :P
[12:06] <biovore> aarcane get alien
[12:06] <gizmo82> can any one help me ?
[12:07] <jasoncohen> concept10, in the last 2 days i found 3 dependency problems on mozilla, mozilla-firefox and konversation in backports which all have been fixed
[12:07] <dizzie> Razor-X no its a KDE app, imo prette decent editor
[12:07] <concept10> jasoncohen, do you have a laptop?
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> !anjuta
[12:07] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> !info anjuta
[12:07] <jasoncohen> concept10, yes
[12:07] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-6ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 2048 kB
[12:07] <aarcane> biovore, I already have rpm, I can't get sudo rpm --install=path/to.rpm to work
[12:07] <jasoncohen> concept10, my ubuntu install is on a dell inspiron 8200
[12:07] <Razor-X> dizzie: the only KDE editor I use is Kate
[12:07] <Razor-X> nice stuff, that is
[12:07] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, can he just force the hoary libc6 version?
[12:07] <Razor-X> still, nothing can beat the C-x C-c power ;)
[12:08] <biovore> alien is the rpm->deb converter tool for debian/ubuntu
[12:08] <Maneiten> Is java broken?
[12:08] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, what version did he install?
[12:08] <dizzie> Razor-X i love syntax highlighting :)
[12:08] <HappyFool> aarcane: i think you'll want to use alien
[12:08] <Razor-X> dizzie: same here
[12:08] <concept10> jasoncohen, do you have any knowledge of this: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I was telling him how to do that, but I don't really know.  Could you instruct him?
[12:08] <gizmo82> is any one from germany here ?
[12:08] <heapifyman> ja
[12:08] <gizmo82> hi
[12:08] <jasoncohen> concept10, i also ran sid before so i have some experience doing that. i had to go from KDE 3.4.0 to 3.3.2 on sid
[12:08] <concept10> hallo
[12:08] <Razor-X> ja ja ja....
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> Maneiten: you should be able to get java from hoary-extras
[12:08] <Razor-X> (that's Hindi ;)
[12:08] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, i can
[12:08] <gizmo82> kannst Du mir mit anjuta helfen ?
[12:09] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, is he still here?
[12:09] <Razor-X> gizmo82: keep the German in a PM
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: yes, he's Maneiten
[12:09] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, hey, so the problem is that you installed another libc6 version
[12:09] <Maneiten> jasoncohen: I fixed it :)
[12:09] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, so, you just forced the hoary version? good
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> o good, I guess my help did help after all
[12:09] <HappyFool> g'night
[12:09] <jasoncohen> concept10, yes, i installed it on sid
[12:10] <tatiana`> Razor-X why keep german to pm??? that sounds kinda rude
[12:10] <Razor-X> one of these days... when I have some time to myself... like the last week of summer... i'm gonna LFS ;)
[12:10] <heapifyman> gizmo82: n, aber in #ubuntu-de bestimmt jemand
[12:10] <Razor-X> tatiana`: same thing with all non-English languages
[12:10] <Maneiten> jasoncohenIf hoary is the ubuntu version; yes.
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> tatiana`: because many of us can't understand it..  and we were sort of talking about ubuntu support here
[12:10] <dizzie> Razor-X Good luck! (You need it!)
[12:10] <Razor-X> there's a reason why non-English Ubuntu channels exist
[12:10] <mdrrrr> 
[12:10] <mdrrrr> 
[12:10] <mdrrrr> 
[12:10] <mdrrrr> 
[12:10] <mdrrrr> 
[12:10] <tatiana`> shrugs still seems rude but ok.
[12:10] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, why did you upgrade your libc6 version?
[12:11] <concept10> jasoncohen, everyone says that they are working on it for breezy, what did you do to install it? alien? or compile?
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: could you block that IP?
[12:11] <Razor-X> tatiana`: very common netiquette, actually
[12:11] <Maneiten> jasoncohen: I don't really use ubuntu. I'm a Debian user, so I don't relly know the terms etc. Just fixing up for a friend of mine. ;)
[12:11] <jasoncohen> concept10, there was a source for sid
[12:11] <Razor-X> you don't want someone bleating in all different languages in the middle of a channel where people are helping
[12:11] <jasoncohen> concept10, let me find it- one sec
[12:11] <crimsun> mdrrrr: please use the pastebin in the topic for floods
[12:11] <tatiana`> never heard of it tbh but i understand.
[12:11] <Razor-X> gets real annoying - real fast
[12:11] <fatfreepork> I downloaded the theme Rpanther, do i need to extract the tar.gz?
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: no
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: feed that to the theme installer
[12:11] <fatfreepork> i did and nothign happened
[12:11] <skull> hi all
[12:11] <concept10> fatfreepork, just drag the tar.gz into the theme window
[12:11] <fatfreepork> oh
[12:12] <fatfreepork> okay
[12:12] <Maneiten> jasoncohen: he downloaded and installed a .deb from the Debian resp. because Java (Blackdown) depends on >= 2.3.2.ds1-21, and ubuntu uses  2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[12:12] <Razor-X> oh, so was mbrrrr actually pasting something?
[12:12] <mdrrrr> 
[12:12] <mdrrrr> 
[12:12] <mdrrrr> 
[12:12] <mdrrrr> 
[12:12] <mdrrrr> 
[12:12] <jasoncohen> concept10, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2004-October/msg00008.html
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> could someone ban mdrrrr?
[12:12] <Razor-X> because my encoding picked up nothing, so I ignored him on the spot
[12:12] <skull> i'm having a problem, sometimes my screen moves stronge
[12:12] <gizmo82> wie kann man mit synaptic pakete installieren die man selbst herunter geladen hat ?
[12:12] <mdrrrr> crimsun
[12:12] <mdrrrr> MDR
[12:12] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, ah, you could have just used java-package or used hoary-extras
[12:12] <mdrrrr> CONNAR
[12:12] <mdrrrr> BAN
[12:12] <Razor-X> skull: your GNU Screen ?
[12:12] <mdrrrr> MOI
[12:12] <skull> does anyone know what is the pro
[12:12] <mdrrrr> !w crimsun
[12:12] <ubotu> mdrrrr: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:12] <skull> yes
[12:12] <mdrrrr> sec
[12:12] <mdrrrr> mdr
[12:12] <aarcane> sudo apt-get install package.deb where there's a file package.deb in the current dir is not working..  how do I make it work ?
[12:12] <mdrrrr> !w ubotu
[12:12] <ubotu> mdrrrr: I don't know
[12:13] <jasoncohen> concept10, thom's site doesn't appear to work any longer though
[12:13] <mdrrrr> parle francais
[12:13] <mdrrrr> connard
[12:13] <Maneiten> jasoncohen: indeed, I fixed the libc6 stuff. But how do I use hoary-extras?
[12:13] <mdrrrr> :s
[12:13] <Razor-X> how does it move strong?
[12:13] <ChOuPi`> :x
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> mdrrrr: please go to #ubuntu-fr
[12:13] <skull> like shaking
[12:13] <mdrrrr> tiglionabbit jsui ban
[12:13] <mdrrrr> imbecile
[12:13] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, read my guide for adding repositories- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:13] <mdrrrr> 00:13:37]  *** [Erreur]  Impossible de rejoindre le salon, tu es banni.
[12:13] <Razor-X> screen is pretty easy to pick up (C-x == Control+X) C-a 0 = 1st terminal, C-a 1 = second terminal
[12:13] <crimsun> mdrrrr: do you have anything productive to say?
[12:13] <Razor-X> you mean your monitor scren?
[12:13] <seth_k> mdrrrr: il faut joindre #ubuntu-fr
[12:13] <concept10> jasoncohen, yeah, I see that but thanks for the link
[12:13] <mdrrrr> JSUI BANNIT
[12:13] <jasoncohen> concept10, np
[12:14] <ChOuPi`> -t
[12:14] <ChOuPi`> :x
[12:14] <jasoncohen> concept10, it really didn't work at all on sid
[12:14] <skull> yes
[12:14] <mdrrrr> mdr ChOuPi`
[12:14] <mdrrrr> tkt je maitrise
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> this makes me very sad.  Where are our admins?
[12:14] <jasoncohen> concept10, even after i satisfied all the dependencies
[12:14] <ChOuPi`> a svoit...
[12:14] <ChOuPi`> mdr
[12:14] <concept10> jasoncohen, ok
[12:14] <biovore> admins, what are they.. lol
[12:14] <jasoncohen> concept10, it requires some major changes to install & work...i think we're going to have to wait for breezy on this one
[12:14] <biovore> crimsun is around
[12:14] <ChOuPi`> han ita mis en mode +cul mdrrrr
[12:14] <Razor-X> I have, insofar, 24547 lines in the IRC bufer
[12:14] <Razor-X> good job ;)
[12:14] <concept10> jasoncohen, okay, I was just wondering how far someone has gotten with it
[12:15] <jasoncohen> concept10, for some reason, even after satisfying dependencies it still didn't work. it seemed to start but didn't bring up the GUI manager
[12:15] <ChOuPi`> loool
[12:15] <ChOuPi`> jsuis plie
[12:15] <ChOuPi`> ^^
[12:15] <Razor-X> *buffer
[12:15] <jasoncohen> concept10, it'll be installed by default in breezy, right?
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> crimsun, daniels, wake up and ban people who are spouting nonsense, please
[12:15] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: what thing?
[12:15] <crimsun> tiglionabbit: we warn first
[12:15] <aarcane> sudo apt-get install package.deb is not working when package.deb is in the current dir...  how do I make it work ?
[12:15] <fatfreepork> why isn't the damn theme working?
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: they have been spamming for the last 10 minutes, it's about time to ban them
[12:15] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, NetworkManager
[12:15] <nalioth> channel users, i'm afraid you'll have to use the /ignore for your purposes
[12:16] <fatfreepork> i drag it in, it seems like it installs but its not on the list
[12:16] <Razor-X> aarcane: dpkg -i package.deb
[12:16] <biovore> aarcan use dpkg -i
[12:16] <biovore> lol
[12:16] <crimsun> tiglionabbit: thanks, we'll take that into account
[12:16] <echylo> why are there so much trouble makers lately
[12:16] <concept10> jasoncohen, thats what I heard
[12:16] <aarcane> thank you :)
[12:16] <Razor-X> echylo: because Windows users feel belittled by our experience, I'm guessing
[12:16] <seth_k> echylo: as anything grows in popularity, we will get more idiots
[12:16] <echylo> hmm
[12:16] <Razor-X> this one guy spammed "Linux is retarted. Use Windows" in the channel
[12:16] <crimsun> echylo: popular distros always attract strange detractors
[12:16] <echylo> war of the arrogance then I guess
[12:16] <biovore> seth_k agreed
[12:16] <fatfreepork> Theme won't work!
[12:16] <echylo> well
[12:16] <fatfreepork> Dragged it int o install, but it's not on the list
[12:16] <echylo> I love ignore
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> lol, retarted
[12:17] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, after you follow my guide you can do sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[12:17] <echylo> I love the guys with green dots or @ beside their names
[12:17] <seth_k> echylo: because the percentage of idiots remains fixed, a larger total population means more idiots :D
[12:17] <Razor-X> echylo: ........ they're called ops man
[12:17] <echylo> leel seth_k :D
[12:17] <echylo> Razor-X, I know ;)
[12:17] <jasoncohen> Maneiten, visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers for more info
[12:17] <echylo> just trying to be creative
[12:17] <Razor-X> ok ok then ;)
[12:17] <Razor-X> hehe
[12:17] <echylo> the yellow are voices
[12:17] <echylo> the blue half ops
[12:17] <echylo> ;)
[12:17] <aarcane> damnit, where do I get libhal.so.1 and libdbus-glib-1.so.1 ?
[12:17] <ChOuPi`> :'(
[12:17] <echylo> in xchat
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> !info libhal.so.1
[12:18] <echylo> to be specific
[12:18] <echylo> nalioth, drop the ctcp
[12:18] <mouril> y need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"
[12:18] <fatfreepork> Theme won't install
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> !info libhal0
[12:18] <ubotu> libhal0: (Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.7-1ubuntu15 (hoary), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 168 kB
[12:18] <jasoncohen> aarcane, search on packages.ubuntu.com or sudo apt-get install apt file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search name
[12:18] <echylo> anyway
[12:18] <echylo> gtg
[12:18] <nalioth> echylo: huh?
[12:18] <seth_k> bye echylo
[12:18] <echylo> nalioth, you did a ctcp version
[12:18] <echylo> :)
[12:18] <Aerebus> an someone help me with make install of wine 200506 ? i'll need to paste into #flood i dont know if this is an error or what but i just wanna make sure
[12:19] <echylo> Aerebus, www.pastebin.com
[12:19] <nalioth> echylo: yes i wanted to see how you were seeing colors
[12:19] <|stefan|> postfix/postfix-tls . the default install of ubuntu. does it require username/password or is it open relay ?
[12:19] <echylo> nalioth, oh :) using xchat
[12:19] <echylo> sorry
[12:19] <echylo> no offense :)
[12:19] <Slack006> Everything was working fine, and then I installed Real Player... Now I can't get any resolutions besides 640x480 to work. Anyone else see this?
[12:19] <Aerebus> echylo, http://pastebin.com/310869
[12:20] <Maneiten> How do I configure the locale-settings?
[12:20] <eruin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> Slack006: damn..  good thing I avoided realplayer (xine and mplayer can play those formats).  I think you should take a loot at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure your other resulotions are listed after "Modes"
[12:20] <fatfreepork>  how do i install a theme?
[12:20] <fatfreepork> i dragged it in
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: the way we told you.  Drag it into the themes window..
[12:20] <Maneiten> "perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[12:20] <fatfreepork> and it seems to install
[12:20] <fatfreepork> but its not on the list
[12:20] <eruin> fatfreepork, drop it in your /home/user/.themes folder
[12:20] <MrMaDSeN> what do I need for Gui mplayer?
[12:20] <nalioth> Aerebus: what are you trying to do with wine?
[12:21] <eruin> and/or restart the theme app
[12:21] <Aerebus> emulate certain windows apps
[12:21] <Slack006> Shoot... Lost the window. Who was it that just PMed me? :( Sorry.
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> MrMaDSeN: it installs with any mplayer build
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-386
[12:21] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:21] <eruin> fatfreepork, it might not be a full metatheme, in which case youll have to make a custom theme
[12:21] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[12:21] <nalioth> Aerebus: no duh! are you trying to install wine? or run an app?
[12:21] <crimsun> Maneiten: try prepending "LANG=C LC_ALL=C" to quiet those messages
[12:21] <heulSuSE> Hello! Any idea? I can't load my soundblaster live! After a "modprobe snd-emu10k1" a "cat /proc/asound/cards" don't show the soundblaster.
[12:22] <crimsun> heulSuSE: which sblive is it?
[12:22] <fatfreepork> im using Rpanther
[12:22] <fatfreepork> from gnome-loog.org
[12:22] <fatfreepork> look*
[12:22] <Aerebus> http://pastebin.com/310869 that was the end of 'make install' complie from the 200506 source, is that an error or something that would affect wines usage?
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: select a theme and do Theme Details, then look for it in one of those three tabs
[12:22] <jasoncohen> backports really needs to add source and contents information. apt-file fails to update with backports enabled
[12:22] <eruin> fatfreepork, try editing your current theme details
[12:22] <jasoncohen> they don't even have changelogs
[12:22] <eruin> and see if the Rpanther stuff shows up anywhere
[12:22] <mouril>  y need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"
[12:22] <Maneiten> crimsun: prepending?
[12:23] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes, the error is there
[12:23] <nalioth> Aerebus: you need to install wine-libs
[12:23] <heulSuSE> crimsun: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[12:23] <Kyral> mouril, what is the boot file system type?
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> !info apt-file
[12:23] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[12:23] <crimsun> Maneiten: put it before the command
[12:23] <mouril> windows xp
[12:23] <crimsun> heulSuSE: that uses the snd_ca0106 driver in alsa-source from universe
[12:23] <Kyral> why would someone use apt-file when you have apt-cache?
[12:23] <Panzerboy> what is apt-file?
[12:23] <Kyral> mouril, I believe that it should have worked....
[12:23] <Maneiten> crimsun: I did it, and the system shut up. But what did I acctually do now?
[12:24] <crimsun> heulSuSE: the snd_emu10k1 driver does not support it. It's a different chipset.
[12:24] <Kyral> Ubuntu is good that that...
[12:24] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, apt-file allows you to search for a package based on a file it contains
[12:24] <Aerebus> nalioth how can i find out what libs i need?
[12:24] <crimsun> Maneiten: perl was simply warning you about using a different locale
[12:24] <jasoncohen> Kyral, how do you find a package based on its contents in apt-cache?
[12:24] <Panzerboy> oh, cool
[12:24] <heulSuSE> crimsun: Oh, thank you! I have to load this driver via apt?
[12:24] <Panzerboy> jasoncohen: even if it's not installed?
[12:24] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, sudo apt-get apt-file ; apt-file update
[12:24] <nalioth> Aerebus: just apt-get install wine-libs
[12:24] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, yes
[12:24] <jasoncohen> especially if it's not installed, lol
[12:24] <Kyral> I search for "a general term that I know will be in the desc :P
[12:24] <Panzerboy> jasoncohen: cool, thanks :)
[12:24] <Maneiten> crimsun: Now I get: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[12:25] <jasoncohen> the whole idea really is to satisfy dependencies when you can't compile something
[12:25] <crimsun> heulSuSE: search the Ubuntu wiki for instructions on downloading, compiling, and installing alsa-source
[12:25] <mouril> i enter in ubuntu but in windows no
[12:25] <seth_k> crimsun: is op protocol on the channels to mute instead of kickban, or is that just your personal preference? (so that I act accordingly in #kubuntu)
[12:25] <Panzerboy> i've been looking for such an utility for sometime now :)
[12:25] <jasoncohen> apt-file search file and then you install that package
[12:25] <Ang3lFir3> I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?
[12:25] <Aerebus> nalioth i dont think that will work
[12:25] <Panzerboy> perfect !
[12:25] <Aerebus> maybe a different name or something
[12:25] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, it downloads a compressed package with a list of all the files and the packages they're in from ubuntu
[12:25] <jasoncohen> it's about 9 MB
[12:25] <crimsun> seth_k: we muzzle before banning, but it's essentially driven by the aggravation.
[12:25] <nalioth> seth_k: mute (warn) first, k/b if behaviour continures
[12:25] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, try it- apt-file search libhal.so.0
[12:25] <nalioth> Aerebus: why not?
[12:25] <MasterYeti> is ubuntu preloaded with meadia codecs, because none of my media files will play?
[12:26] <heulSuSE> crimsun: Thanks! So I know what I have looking for.
[12:26] <seth_k> right, thanks
[12:26] <Aerebus> E: Couldn't find package wine-libs
[12:26] <nalioths_dog> MasterYeti: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:26] <crimsun> heulSuSE: np.
[12:26] <MasterYeti> thanks
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> !info libwine
[12:26] <nalioth> Aerebus: open synaptic and search for 'wine'
[12:26] <ubotu> libwine: (Windows Emulator (Library)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 11232 kB, Installed size: 39688 kB
[12:26] <Panzerboy> jasoncohen: it's installing right now
[12:27] <Aerebus> nalioth, i'm compiling 200506 and that stuff in synaptic is 200505 does that matter?
[12:27] <nalioth> Aerebus: try the easy way (apt) first
[12:27] <jasoncohen> Kyral, i dont' think apt-cache can do what apt-file does. tell me how
[12:27] <fatfreepork> got my theme installed, thanks
[12:27] <nalioth> Aerebus: then we can get on to the harder road
[12:27] <jasoncohen> Kyral, i just checked the man page- there's nothing about finding a package based on a file it contains
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> I think by now the most common question asked here is-- Q:"Why can't apt find <packagename>!?"  A:"Because it's not called that"
[12:27] <Kyral> jasoncohen, I didn't say that :D
[12:27] <fatfreepork> does ubuntu come with php or mysql?
[12:27] <jasoncohen> Kyral, apt-cache search will only look through filenames & descriptions.
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> fatfreepork: no, but you can install them
[12:28] <jasoncohen> Kyral, well...you said there's no point to apt-file
[12:28] <Dormi|OFF> nas
[12:28] <Kyral> yah, and most of the time for me, it finds that I need :D
[12:28] <Kyral> for me :D Linux is all about choices
[12:28] <jasoncohen> Kyral, when you're compiling a package and it neads libblah.so.1 and you don't know what package contains that file, you'll need apt-file
[12:28] <Aerebus> nalioth, i'm confused, the easy way? (apt)? do you mean 'apt-get install wine-libs' ? i just did that and its not there
[12:28] <fatfreepork> does apt-get work with php and mysql?
[12:28] <jasoncohen> Kyral, you don't compile i bet
[12:28] <bungopolis> I'm getting a "don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3" error when trying to play a DVD :: what package should I install to remedy this?
[12:28] <MrMaDSeN> hmmf.. I cant get mplayer to start anything
[12:28] <crimsun> fatfreepork: if you mean "can I install mysql with php support?" then yes
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: apt-cache search wine
[12:28] <Kyral> jasoncohen, nope. This is why I love Apt :D
[12:28] <dapimp53> ok I got my wireless working now
[12:29] <nalioths_dog> bungopolis: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:29] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: you have to enable esd as ao
[12:29] <dapimp53> now I just need to get my touchpad to work... any ideas?
[12:29] <jasoncohen> Kyral, heh, yeah- but sometimes you might want to compile
[12:29] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: had the same problem yesterday ... if it's the same problem :)
[12:29] <jasoncohen> Kyral, do you know about apt-get build-dep?
[12:29] <Ang3lFir3> I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?
[12:29] <jasoncohen> Kyral, it downloads build dependencies automatically for you
[12:29] <nalioth> Aerebus: no i later recommended you use synaptic to search for 'wine'
[12:29] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: what did ya do then?
[12:29] <Kyral> jasoncohen, next time I crash my system I'm gonna do it that way :P
[12:29] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: go to /etc/mplayer
[12:30] <Kyral> I mean, KILL my system :P
[12:30] <Panzerboy> and sudo gedit mplayer.conf
[12:30] <crimsun> Ang3lFir3: have you definitely ruled out your router/modem?
[12:30] <bungopolis> thanks nalioths_dog -- I"ve installed the DVD packages (libdvdcss2 and mpeg decoders), but I can't find a package that will give me ac3 support
[12:30] <Aerebus> nalioth i see libwine-xnamehere, xnamehere = alsa, arts, capi, cil, and more
[12:30] <dapimp53> I have a Toshiba Satellite Laptop and I cannot seem to get the touchpad to work
[12:30] <Panzerboy> there put ao=esd instead of alsa
[12:30] <Ang3lFir3> crimsun not sure how to specificly do that but my other systems are using the same router/modem
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> !multimedia
[12:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, tiglionabbit
[12:30] <Panzerboy> !synaptic
[12:30] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> ubotu multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[12:30] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:31] <Panzerboy> dapimp53: see synaptic
[12:31] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, can you add a link for !multimedia to my multimedia page?
[12:31] <jasoncohen> any ops around?
[12:31] <nalioth> Aerebus: i run a PPC and can't use wine at all, so find and install libwine or winelibs or whatever
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: can I what?
[12:31] <Panzerboy> jasoncohen: what is your multimedia page?
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> !multimedia
[12:31] <ubotu> well, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: I just did man
[12:31] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, thanks, awesome
[12:32] <dapimp53> Panzerboy: I did that and all my packages are currently up to date and it still doesnt work
[12:32] <crimsun> jasoncohen: anyone can modify info on the bot
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: right before you asked me to =P
[12:32] <jasoncohen> crimsun, how?
[12:32] <fatfreepork> ive downloaded and extracted php. how do i install it?
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> ubotu pizza is delicious
[12:32] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> !pizza
[12:32] <ubotu> I heard pizza is delicious
[12:32] <aarcane> damn, can't compile from source, for I haven't the headers, can't install the rpm even with alien, for it's linked against archaic sos, and I can't uninstall it now, because I have NFI how u,.,u
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget pizza
[12:32] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot pizza
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: that's how
[12:32] <fatfreepork> how do i install php?
[12:32] <nalioth> fatfreepork: backports.ubuntu.com
[12:32] <fatfreepork> ive downloaded and extracted it
[12:32] <jasoncohen> ubotu multimediarepositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:32] <ubotu> jasoncohen: okay
[12:33] <jasoncohen> !multimediarepositories
[12:33] <ubotu> it has been said that multimediarepositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:33] <nalioth> fatfreepork: your goin in the wrong direction
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> amittp_: you must get packages that end in -dev to compile from source
[12:33] <fatfreepork> oh
[12:33] <yuacht> tiglionabbit, sudo apt-get install php4
[12:33] <yuacht> sorry
[12:33] <jasoncohen> ubotu forget multimediarepositories
[12:33] <ubotu> i forgot multimediarepositories, jasoncohen
[12:33] <yuacht> not uou tiglionabbit
[12:33] <nalioth> fatfreepork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[12:33] <Turrican> ich komme nich mit anjuta klar
[12:33] <Turrican> hilfe
[12:33] <jasoncohen> ubotu multimedia repositories is  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:33] <ubotu> okay, jasoncohen
[12:33] <Ang3lFir3> crimsun: how would i definitely rule out my router/modem?
[12:33] <yuacht> fatfreepork, try sudo apt-get install php4
[12:33] <fatfreepork> im not on hoary
[12:33] <jasoncohen> !multimedia repositories
[12:33] <ubotu> hmm... multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:33] <jasoncohen> cool
[12:34] <fatfreepork> and i want php 5
[12:34] <nalioth> fatfreepork: you need other repos than (probably) what you have
[12:34] <Panzerboy> ubotu iz da man ! :P
[12:34] <ubotu> Panzerboy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:34] <sdeppert> hey does anyone know how to install drivers for an ati graphics card?
[12:34] <jasoncohen> Panzerboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:34] <nalioth> fatfreepork: php5 is out of the realm of this channel
[12:34] <jasoncohen> sdeppert, one sec
[12:34] <fatfreepork> okay
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[12:34] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> I believe that covers it too
[12:34] <harris|u> Is it possible to play .wmv files?
[12:34] <sdeppert> thanks
[12:35] <crimsun> fatfreepork: search google; I believe a Debian developer is providing unofficial php5 packages
[12:35] <MrMaDSeN> damn that mplayer
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> harris|u: yes, get w32codecs from hoary-extras
[12:35] <fatfreepork> okay
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> !extras
[12:35] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know
[12:35] <Turrican> gibts ein wiki fr anjuta unter ubuntu ?
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:35] <ubotu> backports is, like, at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> um
[12:35] <eruin> hmm, I use marillat for that
[12:35] <jasoncohen> ubotu ati is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <ubotu> ...but ati is already something else...
[12:35] <jasoncohen> !ati
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <harris|u> thanks tiglionabbit
[12:35] <jasoncohen> heh
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> eruin: probably better to use hoary extras
[12:35] <fatfreepork> i tried apt-get install php4
[12:35] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: still doesn't work ?
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> harris|u: uh, you should look at jasoncohen's page,
[12:35] <jasoncohen> eruin, hoary-extras is safer than marillat
[12:35] <fatfreepork> couldn't find package php4
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> !multimedia repostiories
[12:35] <andrew__> How do you install the java runtime environment?
[12:35] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> andrew__: from hoary extras
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[12:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[12:36] <jasoncohen> !multimedia repositories
[12:36] <ubotu> it has been said that multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:36] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: no gui
[12:36] <nalioths_dog> andrew__: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[12:36] <aarcane> how do I uninstall something I just installed with dpkg -i ?
[12:36] <crimsun> dpkg -P
[12:36] <sdeppert> hmm doesnt work lol
[12:36] <jasoncohen> harris|u, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:36] <eruin> jasoncohen, marillat repo has deserved my trust after my debian days ;)
[12:36] <harris|u> jasoncohen, already done ;o
[12:36] <jasoncohen> eruin, yes- marillat is great on debian- not on ubuntu
[12:36] <jasoncohen> eruin, dependencies are not meant to be satisfied on ubuntu
[12:37] <Turrican> where can i get a new package list for synapse
[12:37] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: so you are saying that the gui of mplayer doesn't start ?
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: isn't it um, easier to just grab the java runtime from hoary extras?
[12:37] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: or ?
[12:37] <Ang3lFir3> im getting the impression that i may end up installing 2k as documentation for networking issues in ubuntu seems to be extremely lacking
[12:37] <crimsun> eruin: we have to be careful with debian-marillat, because often the dependencies fail to be satisfied on the stable Ubuntu releases.
[12:37] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: yes
[12:37] <Maneiten> What is the name of the package with X.org's headers/includes?
[12:37] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, what's the problem?
[12:37] <crimsun> Maneiten: xlibs-dev, usually
[12:37] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen I am finding no answers as of yet as to why my 8139too based smc2-1211tx nic can ping both internal and extrenal addresses as well as dns external names but can not telnet/http/irc anything..... any help?
[12:37] <timmy_the_testic> hey guys can any1 help me out?? just upgraded to breezy badger and got this error msg :- perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[12:37] <timmy_the_testic> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:37] <timmy_the_testic>         LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en",
[12:37] <timmy_the_testic>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:37] <timmy_the_testic>         LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"
[12:38] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: try this: mplayer -vo xv movie_file
[12:38] <Panzerboy> and tell me what happens
[12:38] <Panzerboy> !flood
[12:38] <ubotu> from memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:38] <jasoncohen> timmy_the_testic, use pastebin or #flood
[12:38] <crimsun> timmy_the_testic: prepend "LANG=C LC_ALL=C"
[12:38] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, did you try google?
[12:38] <Panzerboy> timmy_the_testic: see what ubotu said
[12:38] <aarcane> heeelp, I just installed a package using dpkg -i package.deb, and now i can't uninstall it in any way, shape, or form as I don't have the foggiest clue how u,.,u
[12:38] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen ohhh yes
[12:38] <crimsun> aarcane: see what I said about dpkg -P
[12:38] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen i been googling this issue for several hours
[12:39] <aarcane> crimsun, dpkg -P package.deb doesn't work u,.,u
[12:39] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, just found this http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic20882.html
[12:39] <crimsun> aarcane: drop the '.deb'
[12:39] <timmy_the_testic> i know i have just been told, bit new 2 this irc lark sorry:P
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> aarcane: you have to use the name of the package it said it selected, not the filename
[12:39] <jasoncohen> but then you have the correct module loaded, right?
[12:39] <light_punch2> why is ubuntu so popular amongst *nix?
[12:39] <crimsun> light_punch2: have you tried it?
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> aarcane: dpkg --info the package to find out what its real name is.  It'll say "Package:" and then the name
[12:39] <light_punch2> crimsun, nope
[12:40] <aarcane> alright, I got it now :)
[12:40] <Fish-Face> Is there a designated backports channel?
[12:40] <sdeppert> now I have to see if tuxracer works
[12:40] <fatfreepork> is there LAMP for hoary?
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> light_punch2: because it's uh, pretty easy to use in comparison to most
[12:40] <crimsun> light_punch2: I think the best answer is provided when you try it.
[12:40] <Panzerboy> light_punch2: have you tried any linux distro?
[12:40] <seth_k> Fish-Face: there is not. Want something backported?
[12:40] <jasoncohen> light_punch2, because it's easy to install and use, has a large and nice community willing to help users, with good documentatoin and a huge base of packages thinks to debian
[12:40] <eruin> crimsun, yeah, hoary-extras isnt quite suitable for breezy though ;)
[12:40] <Fish-Face> seth_k, know, otherwise I'd be on't forum :)
[12:40] <Fish-Face> s/know/no
[12:40] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen there suggestion is to install freebsd :p
[12:40] <Luje> Can anyone here please help me with my Wireless Internet dilemmas?
[12:40] <crimsun> eruin: I certainly hope the distro mismatch ensures that ;)
[12:40] <jasoncohen> light_punch2, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers for some new user info
[12:40] <Turrican> any germans here ?
[12:40] <Panzerboy> fatfreepork: check out xampp
[12:41] <concept10> fatfreepork, yes - lamp is for all unix OS
[12:41] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen and i do have the correct module and driver and its the only pci card in system
[12:41] <Panzerboy> fatfreepork: i guess it must work on hoary too
[12:41] <timmy_the_testic> crimsun:what did u mean by  prepend "LANG=C LC_ALL=C" ?
[12:41] <Fish-Face> Basically, it appears something's up with a backport, and I'd like to see if anyone else has had it
[12:41] <fatfreepork> okay
[12:41] <aarcane> Luje, what kinda dillemas ?
[12:41] <crimsun> timmy_the_testic: put it at the beginning of the command
[12:41] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, a) are you sure it's the nic and not the network, b) do you have rtl8139 loaded?
[12:41] <[koji] > Turrican: try ubuntu-de
[12:41] <Luje> I am running Hoary and I have two different PCI cards (Netgear and Linksys)  I'm trying to install the drivers with ndiswrapper, but they say "invalid driver!" when I do ndiswrapper -l
[12:41] <light_punch2> Panzerboy, i am on slackware 10.1
[12:41] <Panzerboy> ubotu new users is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[12:41] <ubotu> okay, Panzerboy
[12:42] <Fish-Face> hmm... probly best to ask on the forums anyway.
[12:42] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, do you use DHCP? did it get an IP from the gateway? is this is the only machine with problems?
[12:42] <Panzerboy> !new users
[12:42] <ubotu> methinks new users is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[12:42] <Hack> hey there, where can i set the locale of my box?
[12:42] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen a) no ....but i am using the network now on 2k b) yes its loaded and shows in the device manager
[12:42] <Panzerboy> kewl
[12:42] <Hack> or rather change it
[12:42] <crimsun> Luje: you probably don't need ndiswrapper at all for PCI cards
[12:42] <dapimp53> Panzerboy: any idea?
[12:42] <MrMaDSeN> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[12:42] <MrMaDSeN> Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/devices.html#xv!
[12:42] <MrMaDSeN> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11
[12:42] <MrMaDSeN> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[12:42] <Panzerboy> dapimp53: no, srooy
[12:42] <MrMaDSeN> might be the problem then
[12:42] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen yes dhcp yes it has an ip and yes its the only machine with problems
[12:42] <Luje> Crimsun-- how can I get linux to recognize my PCI cards then?
[12:42] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: no xv ? hmmm
[12:42] <Hack> anyone?
[12:42] <Aerebus> nalioth apt-get install libwine did the trick :) is there a way to make a .deb file from the sources i just built?
[12:42] <concept10> crimsun, how can that be true? thats a broad statement
[12:42] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: try with -vo x11
[12:42] <Luje> when I go to system | networking I don't see anything but eth0 and the modem for dialup
[12:42] <dapimp53> Does anyone know how to fix a touchpad mouse on a Toshiba Satelite Laptop?
[12:43] <timmy_the_testic> crimsun:its says bash: prepend: command not found
[12:43] <crimsun> Luje: what models are they? (paste the lspci -v info onto the pastebin in the topic)
[12:43] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, did you try with a static IP or another nic?
[12:43] <Hack> dapimp53: with a hammer?
[12:43] <crimsun> timmy_the_testic: prepend means to add to the beginning
[12:43] <Go_pLastic> anyone know where i can get codecs, to play my .avi and .mpg files?
[12:43] <Luje> crimsun, I don't know what the pastebin is :(
[12:43] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, is this the only linux distro you've used?
[12:43] <dapimp53> LOL I would like for it to work
[12:43] <crimsun> Luje: /topic
[12:43] <harris|u> !backports
[12:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:43] <Panzerboy> jasoncohen: maybe the driver is f***ed up
[12:43] <Luje> all right, one second
[12:43] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen another nic is my next step but i need to know if ubuntu will recognize it or will i need to find and load the drivers
[12:43] <timmy_the_testic> crimsun:sorry im a dumbass:P
[12:43] <crimsun> concept10: technically the statement is true, but I understand what you're driving at
[12:43] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: that worked....
[12:44] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, in my experience most drivers are loaded automatically with hotplug
[12:44] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen i've had a rh shell and a few unix shells but im no pro
[12:44] <Panzerboy> !flood
[12:44] <ubotu> I guess flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:44] <crimsun> concept10: in most cases (hence why I used "probably"), it's not needed for PCI cards
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> ubotu extras is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:44] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget sources
[12:44] <ubotu> i forgot sources, tiglionabbit
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> ubotu sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[12:44] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:44] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: then check out what might be the problem with the xv
[12:45] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, heh, now why don't have to link to that awful ubuntuguide
[12:45] <light_punch2> i mounted the ubuntu.iso, i don't see a boot.iso file to start up the installation from hard drive.  just want to burn 10MB of startup file to start the installation process.
[12:45] <Panzerboy> !guide
[12:45] <ubotu> Panzerboy: Are you smoking crack?
[12:45] <Ang3lFir3> jasoncohen also all the nics i have are rtl8139 based so should that matter?
[12:45] <Danar> nautilus is pissing me off...
[12:45] <Go_pLastic> anyone know where i can get codecs, to play my .avi and .mpg files?
[12:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to auto change wallpapers in ubuntu?
[12:45] <Panzerboy> heh
[12:45] <Danar> how do you get it to stop resizing every time you enter a new folder?
[12:45] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: exactly.  Good job, too
[12:45] <Luje> crimsun, I'm still not sure how to pass this terminal output
[12:45] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, thanks
[12:45] <jasoncohen> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you mean, to change them every X minutes. KDE can do that
[12:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can ubuntu?
[12:46] <Danar> and how do you make it open in the current window rather than a new one like it sometimes does?
[12:46] <DekaPink> Hey all... I'm trying to use bittornado on my Ubuntu, and it keeps giving me an error... I put it in the pastebox... ^^;
[12:46] <crimsun> Luje: I presume you have mouse usage and thus can highlight and paste, correct?
[12:46] <jasoncohen> my gf had 30 backgrounds changing every minute randomly
[12:46] <Luje> i've got it copied
[12:46] <Hack> anyone know how to change the locale?
[12:46] <Luje> but can I just paste it here?
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> DekaPink: paste the url here
[12:46] <Luje> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge
[12:46] <Luje>         Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge
[12:46] <Luje>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8
[12:46] <Luje>         Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] 
[12:46] <Luje>         Capabilities: [a0]  AGP version 2.0
[12:46] <Luje>         Capabilities: [c0]  Power Management version 2
[12:46] <Luje> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]  (prog-if 00 [Normal decode] )
[12:46] <Luje>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
[12:46] <jasoncohen> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i don't think gnome supports that but you can always use KDE
[12:46] <Luje>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
[12:46] <Luje>         Memory behind bridge: e0000000-e1ffffff
[12:46] <Luje>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-dfffffff
[12:46] <Luje>         Capabilities: [80]  Power Management version 2
[12:46] <jasoncohen> STOP IT Luje !
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> Luje: you should use a pastebin, please
[12:46] <[koji] > !flood
[12:46] <Luje> 0000:00:05.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[12:46] <ubotu> it has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn
[12:46] <Luje>         Subsystem: Netgear: Unknown device 5a00
[12:46] <Aerebus> I just downloaded wine-20050628 srouce and did ./configure, make depend, make, and make install. Does anyone know if there is a command similar to '--build source wine' i can use to make my own personal .deb file for installation?
[12:46] <Luje>         Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 16
[12:46] <Luje>         Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[12:46] <Luje>         Capabilities: [44]  Power Management version 2
[12:46] <jasoncohen> !flood
[12:46] <DekaPink> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/477
[12:46] <jasoncohen> Luje, damn't..stop
[12:46] <concept10> Ang3lFir3, I used this to intall my wireless based on that chipset: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E1
[12:46] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: well how do I get the mplayer movie "menu" bar besides the video window?
[12:46] <Danar> anyone?
[12:47] <dapimp53> Is there any known programs I can use from Ubuntu to my windows remote desktop?
[12:47] <crimsun> Luje: please use the pastebin linked in the topic (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/)
[12:47] <Hack> anyone know where the locale is kept and i can change it myself
[12:47] <Danar> every time i open a folder, it resizes the window, and it's too damn small
[12:47] <MrMaDSeN> realvnc.com
[12:47] <nalioth> dapimp53: krdc
[12:47] <jasoncohen> nalioth, ah, so that was all one block of text?
[12:47] <[koji] > dapimp: terminal server client
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> #flood crimsun: ok that kinda worked got to preconfuring packages then this :-  Preconfiguring packages ...
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> (Reading database ... 75752 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> Unpacking x-common (from .../archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb) ...
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/X11', which is also in package xorg-common
[12:47] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: i have no idea, i've never ever used the mplayer gui
[12:47] <Danar> who's bright idea was it to make that the default behaviour?
[12:47] <nalioth> jasoncohen: yes
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> DekaPink: that is a weird error.  I don't know what you can do about that.  You could try using bittornado-gui instead
[12:47] <Panzerboy> MrMaDSeN: always used the text version
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> !info bittornado-gui
[12:47] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (Bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[12:47] <nalioth> crimsun: keep your +q handy
[12:47] <Panzerboy> timmy_the_testic: are u sick ?
[12:47] <timmy_the_testic> sorry think i did that wrong:s
[12:47] <concept10> nalioth, heh
[12:47] <crimsun> timmy_the_testic: err, you, too (flooding -> pastebin)
[12:48] <DekaPink> Thank you... :D
[12:48] <[koji] > timmy: you should go to the url for pasting
[12:48] <MrMaDSeN> Panzerboy: ok... I got no sound either... but i
[12:48] <Hack> so, locale?
[12:48] <MrMaDSeN> I'll have to look into it
[12:48] <jasoncohen> hotplug will automatically attempt to find drivers for a new nic, correct? is it necessary to do anything else for most wired NICs?
[12:48] <Panzerboy> ok people, time to sleep
[12:48] <Panzerboy> nighty night
[12:48] <Hack> night
[12:49] <eruin> nn
[12:49] <crimsun> jasoncohen: that's correct, and usually no, nothing additional is required
[12:49] <Danar> no one can help with nautilus?
[12:49] <Luje> ok, folks, I think I got that under control.
[12:49] <Luje> Crimsun: i just pasted it into the URL.
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> Danar: I'm sure someone can, what's your questiong again?
[12:49] <Hack> Danar: what with it?
[12:49] <crimsun> Luje: great, thanks
[12:49] <jasoncohen> any backport developers here?
[12:49] <nalioth> Danar: i missed your question
[12:49] <Panzerboy> Danar: google for disable spatial nautilus
[12:49] <Luje> sorry for all the chaos :)
[12:49] <Danar> it keeps resizing the window every time i enter a folder
[12:50] <Danar> it's really pissing me off, and it's a stupid default behaviour. if i maximize the window i did it for a reason
[12:50] <Hack> its because it opens a new one each time (or it does on my gentoo box)
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Danar: oh, you can reconfigure it.  Applications -> system tools -> configuration editor
[12:50] <Danar> it keeps making it too small
[12:50] <thinice> I reckon you get this question a lot, but where do I add my soundblaster?
[12:50] <thinice> is it still /etc/modules ?
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Danar: it's under apps -> nautilus
[12:50] <crimsun> thinice: no, don't do that. Which sblive is it?
[12:50] <Danar> heh. i was poking around in the prefs
[12:50] <thinice> sblive 5.1
[12:50] <Hack> anyone know where the locale is????? i wanna change it
[12:50] <jasoncohen> thinice, you shouldn't need to add the driver to /etc/modules
[12:51] <thinice> well it picked up the onboard for the mobo but not the sb
[12:51] <crimsun> thinice: paste the output from ,,cat /proc/asound/cards'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:51] <jasoncohen> thinice, if you're using the sblive you'll probably want to disable the onboard and just use the sblive
[12:51] <thinice> uhm where'd I disable that ?
[12:51] <jasoncohen> in your BIOS
[12:52] <thinice> doh'.
[12:52] <thinice> touche'.
[12:52] <Danar> tiglionabbit, i don't see it
[12:52] <ADreLynx> 
[12:52] <thinice> well the sblive shows up, alsamixer -c 1 shows it
[12:52] <Danar> tiglionabbit, that is, i can't find the settings i'm looking for
[12:52] <Luje> I think my netgear card isn't even showing up in the terminal output
[12:52] <jasoncohen> thinice, it might not work properly with the onboard audio also enabled
[12:52] <crimsun> Luje: I only see your wireless and your via-rhine
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> Danar: I'm not sure what the exact configuration you need is, but I'm sure it's one of those settings.  You can try changing them and quitting/launching nautilus again to see what they did to it
[12:53] <jasoncohen> thinice, i had that problem when i booted up with my webcam and it had its own mixer and sound controls but i then lost sound in gnome
[12:53] <crimsun> Luje: lsmod|grep ^via-rhine
[12:53] <Luje> crimsun: is that good or bad? :)  I have no idea what's going on
[12:53] <Danar> there's too many to go through
[12:53] <jasoncohen> Luje, what netgear card?
[12:53] <thinice> crimsun: it's in there
[12:53] <Hack> nos da
[12:53] <jasoncohen> Luje, i've setup a wg511t and a wg511
[12:53] <Luje> wg311t I beluieve
[12:53] <thinice> I gotta say I'm drop dead impressed.
[12:53] <crimsun> thinice: in where?
[12:53] <jasoncohen> Luje, then you should be good, madwifi drivers are already installed with linux-restricted-modules
[12:53] <thinice> I started to get tears in my eyes when I added my windows drives in fstab.
[12:54] <jasoncohen> Luje, sudo modprobe ath_pci
[12:54] <thinice> crimsun: /proc/asound/cards
[12:54] <crimsun> thinice: right, but it's probably card 1, correct?
[12:54] <jasoncohen> Luje, then hook up the card and see if it flashes
[12:54] <crimsun> thinice: (not card 0)
[12:54] <thinice> it's 1 (Live, Emu101k) - the board is 0
[12:54] <thinice> I'll reboot and disable.
[12:54] <Luje> jasoncohen: neither of the two commands I typed in did anything
[12:54] <crimsun> thinice: no real need.
[12:54] <crimsun> thinice: which onboard is it?
[12:54] <Luje> the card is already hooked up-- is that bad
[12:54] <jasoncohen> Luje, what commands?
[12:54] <thinice> nforce
[12:54] <Luje> modprobe ath_pci
[12:54] <fatfreepork> anyone know how to get LAMP for warty?
[12:54] <thinice> Nf2
[12:55] <eruin> did I just see rhythmbox plus a recent cvs popping up in breezy? :D
[12:55] <Luje> and the one with grep that crimsun suggested
[12:55] <crimsun> thinice: do this in a Terminal: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:55] <thinice> 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[12:55] <thinice>                      NVidia nForce2 with ALC655 at 0xee002000, irq 21
[12:55] <jasoncohen> Luje, so it's hooked up, now go to system > administration > networking
[12:55] <harris|u> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb
[12:55] <harris|u>   Connection timed out [IP: 66.90.101.204 80] 
[12:55] <harris|u> hmm
[12:55] <thinice> k.
[12:55] <Luje> jasoncohen: will do
[12:55] <Aerebus> anyone know how to make a icon for a program that is command line based startup in a terminal? i dragged my icon to desktop and right click properties, check start in terminal, when i click the icon it starts but then closes....
[12:56] <Danar> tiglionabbit, i got it for the default user, but what about for root?
[12:56] <jasoncohen> Luje, lsmod | grep ath_pci
[12:56] <Luje> jasoncohen, I'm there and I only see the dialup modem and ethernet connection
[12:56] <crimsun> thinice: afterward, you should reboot
[12:56] <concept10> fatfreepork,  sudo apt-get install apache2 php4 php4-mysql mysql-server
[12:56] <Danar> thx Panzerboy
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> Danar: uh..  I don't know...
[12:56] <crimsun> thinice: (though rebooting isn't strictly necessary, but it's easier)
[12:56] <jasoncohen> Luje, remove the card and hook it back in
[12:56] <mouril> sorry pp i need same help.....whid my grub...
[12:56] <Danar> Panzerboy, how do i do the same for root?
[12:56] <Luje> okay, that did something jasoncohen
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> Danar: you shouldn't run nautilus as root though, someone said it's bad.  I don't really believe them, but.. meh
[12:56] <Luje> want me to past the grep?
[12:56] <jasoncohen> Luje, now ifconfig
[12:56] <Danar> tiglionabbit, doesn't matter.
[12:57] <jasoncohen> Luje, do you see ath0?
[12:57] <Luje> jason, i haven't taken the card out yet-- is that ok?
[12:57] <fatfreepork> concept10: ive got apache
[12:57] <Luje> not yet, but the grep gave me some lines
[12:57] <Danar> tiglionabbit, i'm on a livecd. i need to move some files around, with appropriate permissions, and nautilus makes it easier
[12:57] <concept10> fatfreepork, well just install what you need
[12:57] <jasoncohen> Luje, that just means the driver is loaded
[12:57] <mouril>  y need please help for this erro in my grub "filesystem type unknown partiton type 0x7"
[12:57] <fatfreepork> concept10: it keeps saying can't find php4
[12:57] <jasoncohen> concept10, why would he have to restart? he already had the drivers installed from linux-restricted-modules, right/
[12:57] <[koji] > fatfree: no worries it will not reinstall
[12:57] <crimsun> mouril: have you tried searching Google?
[12:57] <concept10> fatfreepork, you need to update your repositories
[12:58] <Luje> jasoncohen, cool-- so step two is ifconfig?
[12:58] <Luje> or to take the card out?
[12:58] <crimsun> mouril: and/or asking on the ubuntu-users mailing list?
[12:58] <fatfreepork> concept10, how do i do that?
[12:58] <[koji] > fatfree: unless you have the -reinstall option
[12:58] <jasoncohen> Luje, take the card out first and put it back in
[12:58] <jasoncohen> tell me if you see any lights
[12:58] <concept10> jasoncohen, he shouldnt have to restart
[12:58] <Luje> do i have to shutdown my computer to do that?
[12:58] <concept10> fatfreepork, you are using warty or hoary?
[12:58] <Danar> nvm. got it
[12:58] <jasoncohen> Luje, no
[12:58] <fatfreepork> concept10, warty
[12:58] <Danar> gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser true
[12:59] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, php4 is in hoary
[12:59] <Luje> okay, i'll take it out and put it back in now
[12:59] <fatfreepork> what cna i get in warty?
[12:59] <Luje> is it enough to just pop it up a little bit and then put it back in?
[12:59] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, not warty
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> well, see you guys later, brbs
[12:59] <jasoncohen> Luje, pop it out and then back in
[12:59] <Luje> jasoncohen, cool-- doing that now
[12:59] <jasoncohen> Luje, usually you just push a tab and it pops out
[01:00] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, i can't get anything for warty?
[01:00] <concept10> fatfreepork, you should upgrade to hoary, but if you prefer warty you should learn about adding repositories.
[01:00] <Luje> i have to unscrew my case
[01:00] <fatfreepork> concept10, where can i learn that stuff?
[01:00] <Luje> and then i can pull it up a little bit
[01:00] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, upgrade to hoary - warty doesn't have php3 or php4
[01:00] <concept10> fatfreepork, run apt-cache search php4
[01:00] <mighty_pork_swor> i have just tried "apt-get upgrade" and had this back "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.03_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" Any suggestions??
[01:00] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, any reason you want to stick with warty?
[01:00] <Danar> i just hit delete on some files, and it didn't ask to delete them, it just deleted them. and it didn't send them to the trash either. it's set to prompt first...
[01:00] <thinice> out of curiosity, why is intel in that line ?
[01:01] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, becuase thats what i have
[01:01] <jasoncohen> Luje, oh... i forgot
[01:01] <bungopolis> I'm trying to use Totem to play DVDs -- everything is working great, but I cant do things like change chapters, seek the movie, or see navigation. I've installed all of the dvd/mpeg related libraries I can find. Any ideas what I might need?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> Luje, this is a PCI card- not laptop
[01:01] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, how long would it take to upgrade?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> Luje, then just restart
[01:01] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, on broadband?
[01:01] <fatfreepork> yes of course
[01:01] <Danar> bungopolis, use xine
[01:01] <Luje> okay, i'll be back in a couple minutes then-- thanks for all the help!
[01:01] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, not that long- maybe an hour depending on how many packges you have installed
[01:01] <bungopolis> Danar -- I dont' want to use xine, I want to use Totem
[01:01] <concept10> fatfreepork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes
[01:01] <Danar> bungopolis, i don't know if totem can do taht
[01:02] <bungopolis> Danar - it certainly can
[01:02] <mighty_pork_swor> anyone??
[01:02] <Luje> wait-- should I take my card out inbetween restarting?
[01:02] <Luje> or since it's a desktop is restarting enough?
[01:02] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504
[01:03] <nalioth> mighty_pork_swor: the repos are wonky today
[01:03] <nalioths_dog> mighty_pork_swor: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:03] <Luje> all right, I'm just going to restart without removing my card.  see you folks in a minute!
[01:03] <mighty_pork_swor> will they work for breezy??
[01:03] <jasoncohen> concept10, i think that's the same info on the bottom of this page - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504
[01:03] <ang3lfir3_2> jasoncohen,  it worked
[01:03] <concept10> jasoncohen, okay
[01:03] <jasoncohen> Luje, just restart
[01:04] <holycow> i see the #debian gang has moved over to #ubuntu
[01:04] <nalioth> mighty_pork_swor: ohh! breezy is broken
[01:04] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, you used a new card? perhaps the old card was defective
[01:04] <BeatYou> anybody use ddclient in here ?
[01:04] <ang3lfir3_2> new nic loaded up perfect .... ubuntu is my new hero
[01:04] <concept10> BeatYou, i do
[01:04] <jasoncohen> Ang3lFir3, does this card use the same driver?
[01:04] <ang3lfir3_2> yes
[01:04] <BeatYou> concept10, did you install through apt-get ?
[01:04] <mighty_pork_swor> nalioth: how come??
[01:04] <ang3lfir3_2> dlink 530tx
[01:04] <concept10> BeatYou, whats the problem
[01:04] <BeatYou> concept10: not sure what to put for interface in the configuation
[01:04] <nalioth> mighty_pork_swor: because its under heavy developement
[01:04] <BeatYou> ip for my router ?
[01:05] <bungopolis> Danar -- I worked it out: gstreamer (the default framework for totem) doesnt currently support dvd navigation. Installing the totem-xine packages replaces the framework with the xine framework, which is capable of it (but its still the totem player)
[01:05] <ang3lfir3_2> jasoncohen,  teaches me to try older hardware first
[01:05] <concept10> BeatYou, yes, i installed w/ apt
[01:05] <BeatYou> "interface used for dynamic DNS service"
[01:05] <BeatYou> what did you put
[01:05] <mighty_pork_swor> nalioth: i know that just that this is the 2nd time round that i have installed breezy on this machine and havnt came accross this error b4.... just seems strange:S
[01:05] <ang3lfir3_2> thank you all for the suggestions even when its this simple it can be highly frustrating
[01:05] <concept10> BeatYou, man ddclient - it provides examples for different scenarios
[01:06] <Danar> anyone know why nautilus would fail to prompt for deletion, even when it's settings specify that it should, and just delete files without sending to the trash?
[01:06] <BeatYou> alright i can always config it later
[01:06] <elmaya> hello triying to install ubuntu on my laptop but it hangs on starting pc cards..any workarround on this???
[01:06] <Danar> bungopolis, good to know
[01:06] <concept10> BeatYou, I used something like this sudo ddclient -ip 192.168.2.19 -host example.dyndns,org
[01:07] <bungopolis> Danar -- works perfectly now
[01:07] <adrian_> hehe
[01:07] <BeatYou> concept10: you run it in in /etc/init.d/ though
[01:07] <Danar> !root
[01:07] <ubotu> well, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:07] <Luje> ok, I'm back
[01:07] <BeatYou> so it updates periodocially on its own
[01:07] <adrian_> i reinstalled Ubuntu :D
[01:07] <Luje> hi again everybody
[01:07] <adrian_> it's all nice and clean again
[01:08] <Danar> Luje, don't run apps as root
[01:08] <concept10> BeatYou, oh interface? umm..
[01:08] <adrian_> no more KDE for me!
[01:08] <Luje> Danar, I know I'm not supposed to, but it seems easier for this sort of thing, right?
[01:08] <holycow> Danar, i've seen that happen too actually, haven't been able to reproduce it unfortunately
[01:08] <Danar> Luje, what sort of thing?
[01:08] <Luje> configuring wireless internet
[01:08] <concept10> BeatYou, Im not really familiar with ddclient, it worked at first but when I rebooted my server could not be reached
[01:08] <Luje> i'm having a really really difficult time
[01:08] <BeatYou> concept10, ill get, just wondering if anyone else has messed with it
[01:08] <tatiana`> ok next one, i set the permissions on this program, mousepad, so i'm the owner but it won't open for me, it segfaults... yet root can open & run it? it was installed when i installed the rox filer
[01:09] <Danar> holycow, heh. i want to avoid reproducing it :p know how to fix it?
[01:09] <Danar> Luje, don't log in as root, just use sudo
[01:09] <Luje> will do, Danar
[01:09] <holycow> Danar, until we can reproduce it there is nothing to fix really
[01:09] <jasoncohen> Luje, hey
[01:09] <Luje> hi jasoncohen
[01:09] <jasoncohen> Luje, ifconfig
[01:09] <Luje> you got it, chief.
[01:10] <jasoncohen> type that in a terminal
[01:10] <Danar> holycow, it reproduces it every time i hit delete
[01:10] <holycow> your kidding?
[01:10] <holycow> file a bug
[01:10] <Luje> okay, jasoncohen-- want me to paste in the pastebin?
[01:10] <jasoncohen> Luje, do you see ath0?
[01:10] <Danar> dunno how
[01:10] <Luje> nope
[01:10] <Luje> it has eth0
[01:10] <Luje> and lo
[01:11] <holycow> Danar, apps/system/bug report tool
[01:11] <D1> is anyone familiar with VPNC?
[01:11] <Danar> Luje, you really shouldn't run an app as root and connect it to the net
[01:11] <tatiana`> any ideas anyone heh
[01:11] <Luje> i know, Danar-- i'm just logged in as root to save all the sudo'ing.
[01:12] <Luje> jasoncohen, just lo and eth0
[01:12] <jasoncohen> Luje, strange- then it's not working
[01:12] <Luje> anything I can do to make it work?
[01:12] <Danar> Luje, you have only yourself to blame if you get hacked
[01:12] <crouton> howdy folks
[01:13] <Danar> holycow, bah, i'm not going through all that. you have to have an account
[01:13] <jasoncohen> Luje, have a look at this page- http://www.packetpro.com/~peterson/linux-netgear_wg311t_pci.html
[01:13] <Luje> sure thing, jasoncohen
[01:13] <holycow> Danar, then that quilifies you to stfu :)
[01:13] <holycow> congratulations
[01:13] <Danar> holycow, funny. good attitude
[01:13] <daniels> holycow: be more polite
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[01:14] <daniels> damnit.  i didn't even get to kickban then.
[01:14] <BeatYou> haha
[01:14] <tatiana`> lol
[01:14] <jasoncohen> Luje, modprobe wlan
[01:14] <daniels> the one time I'm awake ...
[01:14] <jasoncohen> modprobe ath_hal
[01:14] <medgno> that was fun
[01:14] <jasoncohen> modprobe ath_pci
[01:14] <Danar> shouldn't have to log into an account just to report a bug
[01:14] <tatiana`> guess not.
[01:14] <jasoncohen> then ifconfig ath0 up
[01:14] <lunarknight> hi, I'm trying to compile something but it's missing opengl headers like gl.h, etc... what apt-get package should i use?
[01:14] <daniels> Danar: well, the bug system would get quite massively spammed if it was fully anonymous
[01:15] <daniels> Danar: plus, the other problem with that is, how do we check back to see if the bug's solved?
[01:15] <Danar> daniels, so enable spam protection on the server
[01:15] <daniels> Danar: a lot of bug reports are '<foo> doesn't work' as is, which is vague enough as to be useless, and removing the requirement for registration would just make that far worse
[01:15] <flugh> ping
[01:15] <daniels> Danar: er, define 'spam protection'?
[01:15] <Danar> daniels, each bug has a number...
[01:16] <concept10> BeatYou, did you use ddclient?
[01:16] <Danar> daniels, well if the server detects lots of reports flooding the server from a single ip, for example..
[01:16] <Luje> jasoncohen, when I type in the modprobe nothing happens
[01:16] <jasoncohen> you mean it just goes to the next line
[01:16] <daniels> Danar: that's indistinguishable from a person who just reports lots of bugs (especially developers), and it's also after-the-fact
[01:16] <jasoncohen> that means it's working
[01:16] <Luje> oh :)
[01:16] <karnage-> since upgrading from PHP 4.3.9 to PHP 4.3.10, ive noticed there is issues with the MSSQL extension that results in failed INSERT and UPDATE queries to an MS SQL database. Does anyone know of an easy fix for this for ubuntu, or can someone guide me through downgrading to PHP 4.3.9 via APT?
[01:16] <jasoncohen> Luje, lsmod | grep ath_
[01:16] <Danar> daniels, not at all, it can be automated and act when it detects it
[01:16] <sjjubb1989> hello
[01:16] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, i just download the 5.04 iso right
[01:17] <Danar> daniels, and one person who reports a lot of bugs isn't going to flood the server
[01:17] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, no, no
[01:17] <Luje> ok, I did that and it shows a few lines
[01:17] <Aerebus> anyone know how to make a icon for wine startup in a terminal? i dragged my icon to desktop and right click properties, check start in terminal, when i click the icon it starts but then closes... is this even possible?
[01:17] <sjjubb1989> is there a way to change mouse pointers (i'm in ubuntu)
[01:17] <concept10> BeatYou, you still there
[01:17] <jasoncohen> concept10, do you have that warty to hoary upgrade link?
[01:17] <jasoncohen> concept10, i think fatfreepork read the wrong part of the release notes
[01:17] <adrian_> ehh
[01:17] <BeatYou> concept10: yes
[01:17] <adrian_> jasoncohen,
[01:17] <holycow> daniels, any reason still to be polite? :)
[01:17] <concept10> fatfreepork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes
[01:18] <daniels> holycow: yes
[01:18] <jasoncohen> Luje, did ifconfig ath0 up work?
[01:18] <holycow> your much too forgiving
[01:18] <adrian_> just do apt-get (install) upgrade
[01:18] <concept10> BeatYou, so I guess the ddclient is working for you?
[01:18] <Danar> Aerebus, make it point to 'sh whatever'?
[01:18] <daniels> Danar: honestly, based on experience -- blogs have this too, and very advanced spam-detection algorithms, and still get ruined --- it just doesn't work.
[01:18] <Luje> i haven't tried that yet
[01:18] <sjjubb1989> adrian: apt-get upgrade
[01:18] <fatfreepork> concept10, i just follow those instructions right?
[01:18] <BeatYou> concept10: not sure.. my ip hasn't changed in a while
[01:18] <daniels> holycow: well, being rude serves no purpose.  it won't get anyone anywhere.
[01:18] <sjjubb1989> adrian: what is the difference between update and upgrade?
[01:18] <Aerebus> Danar, i'm sorry i dont understand
[01:18] <Luje> it says error while getting... no such device, jasoncohen
[01:18] <concept10> BeatYou, do you know what process that is ?
[01:19] <SuperID> I'm replacing FC3 on my laptop.  Today I got an ubuntu torrent, burned the iso and the install failed early (but booted ok).   I got a second iso, not a torrent, burned it on a different machine and it failed the install at basically the same spot...any advice?
[01:19] <BeatYou> concept10 what do you mean
[01:19] <holycow> daniels, duly noted, but the lazy deserve no less as they are simply leeching energy and effort from you and the chan imho
[01:19] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, you want to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every "warty" to "hoary" on each line. then save and "sudo apt-get update"
[01:19] <concept10> fatfreepork, yes.  Basically you have to change your repositories to Hoary and run some commands
[01:19] <adrian_> SuperID, it would help if you said what spot it failed at
[01:19] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, you can also use synaptic to do it graphically
[01:19] <fatfreepork> okay i'll try that
[01:19] <fatfreepork> oh
[01:19] <fatfreepork> i'd rather that way
[01:19] <pschulz01> Greetings.  I have a ubuntu workstation which is not booting. VFS: Unable to boot.
[01:20] <jasoncohen> Luje, then the drivers aren't working for you, sorry
[01:20] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, which- synaptic?
[01:20] <pschulz01> There has been email in ubunti-users, but no explaination how to fix it easily.
[01:20] <concept10> BeatYou, I mean what process is ddclient running as ?  i run ps aux | grep ddclient and I dont see it
[01:20] <SuperID> adrian, I was surprised that two differnt ISOs failed at all....I've never had trouble with a distro installation before
[01:20] <Luje> jasoncohen, is there anything I can do?
[01:20] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, yes im in the package manger now
[01:20] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, i added some screenshots to the repository wiki
[01:20] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:21] <BeatYou> concept10: sorry misunderstood you, yes it as running
[01:21] <concept10> BeatYou, my server works on the local network, but I cant access it from the net since rebooting
[01:21] <Danar> daniels, you know what.. it wasn't deleting them after all, i was just looking in the wrong place for the trash folder
[01:21] <pschulz01> Is there anything in the wiki? I have boted sing a LiveCD from warty
[01:21] <karnage-> can you select different versions of packages to install with APT, or are you restricted to use only the latest releases? I want to remove and install version 4.3.9 of PHP rather than the current 4.3.10
[01:21] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, on the software sources page (you'll want to click edit and change warty to hoary
[01:21] <concept10> BeatYou, so im trying to find out if ddclient is running or not
[01:21] <daniels> holycow: eh, if it gets to be a serious drain on my productivity, I just switch tabs over to work and ignore IRC.  *shrug*
[01:21] <adrian_> but SuperID, what in the install failed?
[01:21] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, for every repository that is enabled
[01:21] <SuperID> adrian, I am recreating it right now
[01:21] <jasoncohen> karnage-, you can force a version in synaptic or with apt and then hold it
[01:21] <BeatYou> concept10: not sure, i have never had probglems with apache, i can use any host and apache automaticlay binds to it
[01:22] <jasoncohen> Luje, you can do more searching on google. not much i can do to help you now though
[01:22] <BeatYou> ips, or hostnames
[01:22] <jasoncohen> Luje, you might want to compile madwifi from CVS
[01:22] <jasoncohen> Luje, a newer version might work better for you
[01:22] <jasoncohen> Luje, my wg511t works with the included drivers
[01:22] <concept10> BeatYou, how do I find out what apache is binded to?
[01:22] <Danar> how come windows don't snap to borders?
[01:22] <Luje> jasoncohen, i've searched nonstop for four days now-- and i've even tried other forums
[01:23] <jasoncohen> Luje, then download madwifi from CVS and compile\
[01:23] <Luje> can I get madwifi from synapetic?
[01:23] <medgno> Danar, are you using gnome or kde?
[01:23] <Luje> I don't know what CVS is
[01:23] <Danar> gnome
[01:23] <jasoncohen> you'll need kernel-headers and build-essential
[01:23] <BeatYou> concept10, have you isntalled webmin ?
[01:23] <jasoncohen> !cvs
[01:23] <ubotu> jasoncohen: Are you smoking crack?
[01:23] <holycow> daniels, heh practical.  i suppose it's futile to expect humans to put in a marginal effort or not lie/distor info? ehe :) i gotta learn your kung fu
[01:23] <concept10> BeatYou, not on that box
[01:23] <medgno> Danar, try holding down Shift while moving the window. It should now strongly snap to other windows. It still will not snap on resize, though
[01:23] <concept10> BeatYou, let me do that
[01:23] <Danar> oh. thx
[01:24] <medgno> Danar, no problem
[01:24] <jasoncohen> ubotu CVS is a version control system, CVS helps to manage releases and to control the concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors.
[01:24] <ubotu> jasoncohen: okay
[01:24] <jasoncohen> ! cvs
[01:24] <ubotu> cvs is probably a version control system, CVS helps to manage releases and to control the concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors.
[01:24] <Danar> it would be nice if it did
[01:24] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, i can't find the software sources page
[01:25] <elmaya> how do i disable acpi on installation?
[01:25] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, what page?
[01:25] <Danar> is there a way to get it to use that ALT+click thing to resize windows? you can hold alt & click to move windows around, but not resize...
[01:25] <concept10> BeatYou, another question, right now the box I use for a server is basically a box for guests to access the net, how do I get it to start in a CLI only runlevel?
[01:25] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, repositories
[01:25] <TokenBad> anyone know if they have linux drivers for a nvidia motherboards?
[01:25] <Danar> i mean where you alt+ right click to resize
[01:25] <jasoncohen> fabbione, settings > repoistories
[01:25] <jasoncohen> *repositories
[01:25] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, then
[01:26] <Velcan> what is the name of the utility used to edit the gnome applications menu ... im not finding it and guessing it's not yet installed
[01:26] <SuperID> adrian, after hardware detection succeeds, it scans much of the cd and says "there was a problem reading data from the cdrom".
[01:26] <searcher`> Velcan: SMEG
[01:26] <Luje> jasoncohen, it says "no targets specified and no make file found"
[01:26] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, on the repositores page i have nothing
[01:26] <jasoncohen> Luje, make && make install
[01:26] <SuperID> this is on a system operating quite normally otherwise, the cd reads fine
[01:26] <jasoncohen> Luje, you figured out how to download from CVS already? nice
[01:26] <flugh> m'kay, the world is better now that junior won
[01:26] <elmaya> how do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection
[01:27] <Luje> i copied and pasted from that site you sent me jasoncohen, but it isn't working
[01:27] <Luje> and the make && make install doesn't work either
[01:27] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, nothing...?
[01:27] <Luje> it says
[01:27] <Velcan> hmm ... not finding smeg in synaptic
[01:27] <Luje> jasoncohen, it says: KERNELCONF: /usr/src/linux/.config does not exist..  Stop.
[01:27] <[koji] > Velcan: add backports
[01:27] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, i have one thing checked
[01:27] <jasoncohen> Luje, did you install kernel headers?
[01:28] <Luje> i have no idea how to do that
[01:28] <Luje> i downloaded a few randomly from synaptic
[01:28] <Danar> hrm, nautilus won't let me rename a folder i just made
[01:28] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _warty warthog_
[01:28] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, that is the only checked box
[01:28] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, wow
[01:28] <elmaya> zzzzzz....
[01:28] <Danar> every time i click rename, it only stays for ~1 second, then cancels before i type anything
[01:28] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, ok, look at this page
[01:29] <jasoncohen> !multimedia repositories
[01:29] <ubotu> multimedia repositories is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[01:29] <[koji] > Danar: it happens sometimes so I rather do it in the cmd line
[01:29] <Danar> [koji] , know how to fix it?
[01:30] <Velcan> koji: pardon my ignorance but what do you mean?
[01:30] <[koji] > Danar: no i don't want to be bog down by it
[01:30] <[koji] > !backports
[01:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:30] <concept10> hmm...I forgot how to get into webmin
[01:30] <Velcan> thanks
[01:30] <dapimp53> Ok I got my wireless and my mouse to work.... last thing is I have no sound. What do I need to do to get sound on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop
[01:30] <Luje> jasoncohen, are there certain linux headers I should download?
[01:30] <Luje> would it be advisable to just donwload all of 'em?
[01:30] <Danar> [koji] , i got it. i went to Edit > Rename instead and it stayed
[01:30] <elmaya> how do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection need some help here... :(
[01:30] <jasoncohen> Luje, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:31] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, you want your sources.list to look like the OLD SOURCES.LIST i have
[01:31] <[koji] > Danar: there you go
[01:31] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, i'm assuming you only want main & restricted
[01:31] <Danar> concept10, browse to 127.0.0.1:11000 or whatever the port is
[01:31] <Luje> sweet deal-- downloading now, jasoncohen (thanks!)
[01:31] <synstar> Anyone know any 3gp to mpeg converters?
[01:32] <Danar> hrm, how come nautilus doesn't ask me what to do when i drag files/folders around?
[01:32] <elmaya> :(
[01:33] <jasoncohen> Luje, :)
[01:33] <elmaya> dammn
[01:33] <concept10> Danar, its 10000 but thanks
[01:33] <Luje> all rihgt, jasoncohen, it's downloaded-- what should I do now?  it's got me in folder root/madwifi
[01:33] <TokenBad> think the audio on my motherboard is cmedia..anyone know if they have drivers for that for linux?
[01:34] <elmaya> is there like a ubuntu-help channel?
[01:34] <crimsun> TokenBad: the c-media mixer? yes. It's the actual DSP that matters, though.
[01:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um this would be it
[01:34] <TokenBad> dsp?
[01:34] <crimsun> TokenBad: what's the lspci -v line for audio?
[01:34] <TokenBad> crimsun, you just went over my head
[01:34] <jasoncohen> Luje, did you take down the CVS source?
[01:34] <crimsun> TokenBad: open a Terminal and type: lspci -v |grep audio
[01:35] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, how are you doing?
[01:35] <concept10> Danar, damn, it wont let me get into it
[01:35] <TokenBad> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[01:35] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, followed the instructions on that page
[01:35] <Luje> take down the source?  i have the page I'm using with a bunch of instructions on it-- i'm just copying and pasting from that.  Should I take it from the top?  jasoncohen?
[01:35] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, sudo apt-get update
[01:35] <crimsun> TokenBad: yeah, it's supported just fine, but you'll want to use alsa-source from universe.
[01:35] <fatfreepork> jasoncohen, nothing happening it seems
[01:35] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, you just need to make your sources.list look like OLD.SOURCES.LIST - otherwise you'll also have multiverse universe and hoary-extras which you may not want
[01:35] <concept10> Danar, I forgot what firewall I have on there besides firestarter
[01:35] <TokenBad> ok again..over my head
[01:36] <crimsun> TokenBad: and make sure the "IEC958 Capture Monitor" is muted.
[01:36] <dapimp53> Can anyone help me with my sound on my laptop?
[01:36] <crimsun> TokenBad: search the Ubuntu wiki for information on downloading, compiling, and installing alsa-source
[01:36] <jasoncohen> fatfreepork, sudo apt-get updaete
[01:36] <jasoncohen> *sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <Indur> hmm
[01:36] <TokenBad> k
[01:36] <crimsun> dapimp53: what sort?
[01:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yawn
[01:36] <Indur> so I guess I'll just ask my question =-o
[01:36] <dapimp53> I have no sound at all. I have a Toshiba Satellite A75 Laptop
[01:37] <crimsun> dapimp53: and which sound chipset does it use?
[01:37] <Indur> I can't get the network to autoconfigure, which I believe is the reason I can't get on the internet once I have ubuntu installed =(
[01:37] <elmaya> anybody reads me?
[01:37] <elmaya> hello
[01:37] <meri> is there any gui to install wallpapers/themes/icons?
[01:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi
[01:37] <TokenBad> hmm
[01:37] <nalioth> you go jasoncohen!
[01:37] <meri> (for gnome)
[01:37] <TokenBad> my mozilla isn't closing
[01:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> elmaya whats the prob?
[01:38] <nalioth> meri: system > prefs > theme
[01:38] <zenlunatic> nalioth: do you know how to emulate mouse buttons on x.org?
[01:38] <jasoncohen> nalioth, huh? heh
[01:38] <elmaya> how do i disable acpi on installation? or to disable pc-card detection need some help here... :(
[01:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth is there a way to auto change desktops in ubuntu?
[01:38] <elmaya> that's my problem
[01:38] <nalioth> zenlunatic: not offhand, no
[01:38] <dapimp53> crimsun: I honestly don't know
[01:38] <concept10> Danar, okay I had tot change the allow /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
[01:38] <flipy> nalioth, this will work for icons too?
[01:38] <crimsun> elmaya: boot apci=off
[01:38] <zenlunatic> nalioth: on your ibook do you use an external mouse?
[01:39] <nalioth> flipy: if its packaged according to gnome standards, yes
[01:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> elmaya um that i don't know i'm sorry :(
[01:39] <pixelmonkey> meri, and for wallpapers, just right-click your desktop and say "Change Desktop Background"
[01:39] <elmaya> ok i'll try that
[01:39] <crimsun> elmaya: there are other options, search Google
[01:39] <nalioth> zenlunatic: yes i have a 3button usb scroller
[01:39] <Luje> jasoncohen, when I type the first command from that page you sent me, I get the following error:
[01:39] <Luje> warning: failed to open /root/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory
[01:39] <dapimp53> crimsun: I am trying to look it up right now
[01:40] <TokenBad> what killall command would close mozilla?
[01:40] <nalioth> elmaya: at the installers prompt, it should say something like "press f1 for help, enter to continue" or somehting like that
[01:40] <jasoncohen> Luje, let me find you the right CVS page
[01:40] <spermie_> how do i look at apt-gets packages?
[01:40] <Luje> thanks a million jasoncohen
[01:40] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad: killall mozilla from command line
[01:40] <TokenBad> I did that
[01:40] <TokenBad> didn't work
[01:40] <elmaya> my laptop hangs on pc-card detection
[01:40] <flipy> thanks guys
[01:40] <crimsun> dapimp53: you need to use the snd_azx driver in alsa-source from universe.
[01:40] <nalioth> TokenBad: killall closes all your stuff, i believe, (or is that 'slay'?)
[01:40] <crimsun> dapimp53: err, sorry, the snd_atiixp driver, not the snd_azx
[01:41] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad: alternatively, you can try closing it in the taskbar and gnome should let you "Force Quit".  Alternatively, you can run xkill from command line, and then select a mozilla window
[01:41] <dapimp53> I beg your pardon
[01:41] <thinice> is there a way I can query apt-get packages? so I can look up where glib is ?
[01:41] <Danar> arg, what do you install for mp3 support again?
[01:41] <dapimp53> what is alsa-source from universe
[01:41] <Danar> gstreamer something, isn't it?
[01:41] <nalioth> Danar: gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:41] <Danar> thx
[01:41] <TokenBad> that xkill got it
[01:42] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad, sometimes, killall doesn't work because the app your are trying to kill isn't really running in a process called what you think it is
[01:42] <TokenBad> ah ok
[01:42] <sjjubb1989> hello
[01:42] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad, in those situations, you can either run top, or run ps lx | grep 'appname' to find out what the actual name is
[01:42] <sjjubb1989> does anyone know how to make websites think firefox is IE
[01:42] <sjjubb1989> i forgot the name of the extenstion or string
[01:42] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad, xkill is often faster than any of those.  I have an xkill launcher on my gnome panel for when apps misbehave ;-)
[01:43] <TokenBad> heheh
[01:43] <TokenBad> ok now...
[01:43] <crimsun> ubotu: alsa-source is Enable the universe repository, then sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa*.deb
[01:43] <ubotu> crimsun: okay
[01:43] <TokenBad> to do the alsa source
[01:43] <arenner> Anybody know much about network print servers? I need something that will work with both Lin and Win, so I am thinking about getting one.
[01:43] <jasoncohen> Luje, HEAD: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi co madwifi
[01:43] <pixelmonkey> TokenBad, also, if you add a panel applet to your panel, there is a GNOME applet called "Force Quit" which is a fancier version of xkill, basically
[01:43] <dapimp53> crimsun: where do I get what you are talking about?
[01:43] <crimsun> dapimp53: I just entered the information into the bot
[01:44] <Luje> command head not found, jasoncohen :(
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does anyone know if ubuntu can auto change wallpapers?
[01:44] <zenlunatic> Does anyone know the code to emulate mouse buttons via keyboard in x.org?
[01:45] <Danar> i'm trying to play an mp3 and i get 2 alterts saying 'cannot open resource for writing' and 'cannot pause playback'
[01:45] <crouton> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Not without an additional program..
[01:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crouton , what program is that?
[01:45] <crimsun> Danar: does sound work otherwise? Did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[01:45] <Danar> yes, and yes
[01:46] <crimsun> Danar: what is the following set to? System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default audio sink
[01:46] <arenner> Church_of_Foamy: I know that KDE (kubuntu) has a slide show capability. Not as familiar with Gnome.
[01:46] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes there are proggys for that
[01:46] <spermie_> how do i run synaptic on kubuntu as a root user???
[01:46] <Danar> hrm, it won't let me open oggs
[01:46] <Danar> they're all disabled
[01:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , can you direct me to it is it apt-gettable?
[01:46] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you have chbg, or a script called "ranwp.sh"
[01:46] <crimsun> spermie_: you can use Kynaptic
[01:47] <spermie_> i heard it was evil =?
[01:47] <Danar> crimsun, esd
[01:47] <TokenBad> with installing the alsa source I can just use the synaptic to install it right?
[01:47] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: chbg is apt gettable
[01:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thank
[01:47] <Danar> crimsun, test works
[01:47] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the ranwp is googleable
[01:47] <jasoncohen> Luje, i can't find the FAQ i used to use
[01:47] <jasoncohen> they got rid of it
[01:47] <crimsun> Danar: what application are you using to play mp3s?
[01:47] <thinice> where can I find glibc? and for future reference, is there anything similar to urpmq for apt-get ?
[01:47] <Danar> crimsun, rhythmbox
[01:48] <nalioth> jasoncohen: use the wayback machine
[01:48] <Luje> thanks anyway, jasoncohen-- I'll try back some other time
[01:48] <arenner> Anybody use a home network print server that works with Linux? I am thinking about getting one.
[01:48] <crimsun> thinice: libc6, and apt-cache or aptitude
[01:48] <jasoncohen> Luje, sorry
[01:48] <thinice> crimsun, you're a god.
[01:48] <jasoncohen> http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi
[01:48] <Luje> no sweat :)
[01:48] <jasoncohen> Luje, or try this
[01:48] <thinice> jiminy cricket...
[01:48] <TokenBad> how come if I go to the media select thing to pick alsa and test it..it gives error?
[01:48] <jasoncohen> Luje, http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi
[01:48] <Luje> will do-- thanks again :)
[01:48] <jasoncohen> he has a package you can download
[01:48] <crimsun> TokenBad: because a program has already grabbed the sound device (namely, esd)
[01:48] <jasoncohen> madwifi_1.6-1.tar.gz
[01:49] <pixelmonkey> ChurcH_of_FoamY, go to gnomefiles.com and search for wallpaper, I found 3 apps in one search: http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=270 http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=938 http://www.gnomefiles.com/app.php?soft_id=104.  Take your pick.
[01:49] <TokenBad> I already did killall esd
[01:49] <TokenBad> it can't have control
[01:49] <Danar> crimsun, any ideas?
[01:49] <regeya> ooooo
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i botched the apt-get kubuntu-desktop install how to remove it?
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pixelmonkey , thanx
[01:49] <crimsun> TokenBad: are you testing alsa for the default audio _sink_?
[01:49] <moire> hi, where do i find the package ncurses-devel? i need it to make menuconfig the kernel
[01:49] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what do you mean, botched?
[01:49] <crimsun> Danar: did you restart Rhythmbox after installing gstreamer0.8-mad?
[01:49] <TokenBad> well guess
[01:49] <nalioth> moire: use synaptic to search for 'ncurses'
[01:49] <TokenBad> want to know if I got alsa working
[01:49] <Danar> crimsun, closed it first
[01:49] <TokenBad> so can try to play game and see if audio is fixed
[01:50] <moire> nalioth: there is no ncurses-devel
[01:50] <Danar> crimsun, shouldn't it be able to play ogg? it won't let me open any. they're disabled
[01:50] <crouton> nalioth: Is there anything.. better than chbg?
[01:50] <crimsun> Danar: ogg...vorbis? flac?
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , it returend an error code of 1 after it found that there was broken dependancys
[01:50] <crimsun> Danar: (yes it should be able to)
[01:50] <nalioth> moire: no libncurses, ncurses-dev?
[01:51] <Danar> crimsun, vorbis. actually, it won't open mp3s either
[01:51] <regeya> oh, I know nobody will remember this from a few nights ago, but I was having odd rhythmbox problems...only some files would show...out of 1158, only 16 showing up...it finally occurred to me that they all had a word in common in the title.  it wasn't showing up in the search bar of rhythmbox, but I looked, and lo, there was a search item listed in gconf.  #$%! gconf...
[01:51] <pixelmonkey> crouton, I just sent three links to ChurcH_of_FoamY for alternatives to chbg which are GTK-based GUIs
[01:51] <crimsun> TokenBad: so you've killed esd and changed all the sound properties to use alsa. Does testing with aplay work?
[01:51] <Velcan> what's the utility to view my harddisks
[01:51] <crouton> pixelmonkey: Ah, thanks. didn't see that.
[01:51] <nalioth> crouton: there is a script out there for gnome, and pixelmonkey mentioned gnomefiles.com
[01:51] <crouton> gratzi gratzi
[01:51] <TokenBad> aplay?
[01:51] <Danar> crimsun, oops. that's cause it wanted a folder. strange it won't let you open individual files from the menu
[01:52] <Velcan> view as see their names so i can mount my secondary drive
[01:52] <pixelmonkey> Velcan, nautilus?
[01:52] <crimsun> TokenBad: yes, the direct alsa wav player
[01:52] <pixelmonkey> Velcan, I don't get your question
[01:52] <Velcan> no
[01:52] <Velcan> i thought it was something like fdisk -l
[01:52] <pixelmonkey> Velcan, oh, I see.  Yea, sure, you can use fdisk, parted, whatever
[01:52] <pixelmonkey> Velcan, to get at the "physical" view of your drives
[01:52] <TokenBad> never used it so no idea
[01:53] <Velcan> how do i use it to show all drives
[01:53] <nalioth> Velcan: "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:53] <crimsun> TokenBad: man aplay
[01:53] <crimsun> TokenBad: use aplay to test a wav file
[01:53] <Velcan> ahhh i wasnt doing sudo :)
[01:53] <pixelmonkey> is sudo really necessary?  Everyone gets read access to these drives.
[01:54] <bath66> hello
[01:54] <nalioth> pixelmonkey: yes
[01:54] <jack_> You know msn messenger displays the song you're playing? How do I do that on Linux?
[01:54] <Velcan> ah crap :( .... i left my big drive ntfs ... no wonder it didnt auto detect
[01:54] <pixelmonkey> nalioth, oh, well you need to be a member of the disk group
[01:54] <jack_> I've tried GAIM + autoprofile, no luck
[01:54] <nalioths_dog> Velcan: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[01:54] <Danar> crimsun,  fuser -v /dev/dsp says esd is using the sound. would that cause it?
[01:54] <bath66> Do you know the root password by defaut in ubuntu 5.04 ?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> Velcan: ubuntu doesn't currently auto detecrt
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> !sudo
[01:54] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:54] <pixelmonkey> nalioth, I guess I must have added myself to that group long ago
[01:54] <crimsun> Danar: you want esd to be running
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> bath66: go to that URL
[01:55] <bath66> i don't have web navigator now =
[01:55] <Danar> crimsun, then what might cause it to be unable to play anything?
[01:55] <nalioth> pixelmonkey: yes, us poweruser are somewhat out of touch with "default"
[01:55] <bath66> i'm under irssi, and i cannot edit my xorg.conf withou the root password
[01:55] <Danar> crimsun, rhythmbox that is
[01:55] <vidz> bath66: use sudo -s and type your user password for a root shell. Root is disabled for security
[01:55] <nalioth> bath66: there is no root pwd
[01:55] <bath66> ok
[01:55] <jack_> it's your userpwd
[01:55] <bath66> thank you
[01:55] <pixelmonkey> nalioth, well, users should be members of the disk group, imo.  It's their disk, after all
[01:55] <jack_> there's no root acct
[01:55] <nalioth> bath66: read what was posted to you
[01:56] <nalioth> pixelmonkey: there are reasons for 'defaults'
[01:56] <vidz> jack_: There IS a root account. It is just disabled with passwd -l
[01:56] <jack_> Now, how do I make msn update what song I'm playing, like in Windows?
[01:56] <crimsun> Danar: test with gst-launch-0.8
[01:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/310922 <--- what does this error mean?
[01:56] <cafuego> Aiyee!
[01:56] <pixelmonkey> nalioth, don't doubt it ;-)  After all, don't want a user doing echo "hello world" > /dev/hda1 ;-)
[01:56] <Danar> crimsun, run that?
[01:56] <crimsun> Danar: see the man page for gst-launch-0.8 if you're not familiar with the syntax
[01:56] <nalioth> pixelmonkey: there are lots of reasons.. .. .. <lol>
[01:56] <TokenBad> well aplay works but the sound in the game is still messed up
[01:56] <cafuego> pixelmonkey: No, that wouldn't be anywhere near secure enough ;-)
[01:57] <Velcan> is there a simple way to mount a ntfs drive ... here's why ... windows is completely gone from this machine so there is no need for ntfs ... i want to move the files off the ntfs drive, format the ntfs drive and then move the files back
[01:57] <crimsun> Danar: use it to test whether gstreamer0.8 recognizes the files
[01:57] <crimsun> TokenBad: what game?
[01:57] <cafuego> !tell velcan -about user accessible ntfs
[01:57] <TokenBad> doom 3
[01:57] <rendi> guy's how to creater kvirc link on my desktop ?
[01:57] <pixelmonkey> cafuego, well I just realized that the hd*'s are rw for the disk group.  Better layout would be r for disk group, rw for root, and nothing for others
[01:57] <nalioth> Velcan: the dog sent you a link
[01:57] <rendi> i have finished to install it
[01:57] <crimsun> TokenBad: are you using plughw:0,0 ?
[01:57] <nalioth> Velcan: to mount all the drives on your box
[01:57] <TokenBad> what is that?
[01:57] <Velcan> thanks
[01:57] <pixelmonkey> cafuego, I might change my system as such, sending me farther from the default than before ;-)
[01:57] <crimsun> TokenBad: ok, I take it you haven't consulted the Doom III Linux FAQ
[01:58] <crimsun> TokenBad: so that's the first thing I'd read next
[01:58] <TokenBad> didn't know there was one
[01:58] <vidz> Velcan: sudo mkdir /media/windows && mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows will mount the windows partition
[01:58] <crimsun> zerowing.idsoftware.com
[01:58] <vidz> Velcan: If /dev/hda1 is your ntfs partiton
[01:58] <cafuego> pixelmonkey: I can even think of a time when a user other than root needs raw device access.
[01:58] <rendi> ?
[01:58] <rendi> any hel pfor me
[01:58] <cafuego> can't
[01:58] <rendi> *for
[01:58] <Velcan> thanks that's what i couldnt remember ... the -t ntfs part
[01:58] <rendi> guy's how to creater kvirc link on my desktop ?
[01:58] <pixelmonkey> cafuego, read access isn't exactly harmful though... so that you can do fdisk -l, for example ;-)
[01:59] <cafuego> rendi: Right-cclick on the sdesktop, choose 'Create Launcher'
[01:59] <Danar> crimsun, RUNNING pipeline ...
[01:59] <Danar> Execution ended after 1 iterations (sum 23000 ns, average 23000 ns, min 23000 ns, max 23000 ns).
[01:59] <cafuego> pixelmonkey: That's my point, users don't _need_ fdisk -l normally.
[01:59] <glyph_> hello
[01:59] <Danar> crimsun, did i do that right?
[01:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crimsun http://pastebin.com/310922 <---whats it mean
[01:59] <pixelmonkey> I mean, what's a hacker gonna do, grep my NTFS drive until he finds my Windows password? :-)
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> pixelmonkey: yes
[02:00] <cafuego> pixelmonkey: That's more likely than anything else, i guess ;-)
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> pixelmonkey: in any case, it's not secure
[02:00] <crimsun> Danar: I don't know, what command did you use/
[02:00] <TokenBad> crimsun, reading that faq now..but not understand it
[02:00] <pixelmonkey> HrdwrBoB, yea, you have a point actually.  Like if fetchmail passwords are stored in /etc
[02:00] <rendi> thanks
[02:00] <Danar> gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/path/to/music.ogg
[02:00] <jack_> you can't grep the windows password lol
[02:00] <jack_> it's encrypted in the SAM file
[02:01] <aarcane> what packages do I need to install to make my toshiba laptop kick into low power mode when I kick into battery power, namely, I want it to half or so CPU usage and stuff, and turn off peripherals after a few moments disuse like it does in windows, but only when in battery mode
[02:01] <pixelmonkey> jack_, I was just joking ;-)
[02:01] <nalioth> jack_: not directly, no
[02:01] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: looks like a chbg issue. I've never used that app.
[02:01] <jack_> yeah, the encryption is weak
[02:01] <vidz> pixelmonkey: If a user has access to the SAM file, he could use a tool like l0phtcrack or LC4 to crack your passwords
[02:01] <glyph_> ish a little lost
[02:01] <nalioth> i'm not joking
[02:01] <Kyral> Anyone know why UT2k4 hates me?
[02:01] <tats`away> aarcane check the damn small linux forums for Toshiba
[02:01] <Danar> Kyral, cause you owned it? :p
[02:01] <vidz> Kyral: because you're ugly?
[02:01] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: google "ranwp.sh gnome" or go to gnomefiles.com
[02:01] <pixelmonkey> vidz, LOL, come on guys, it was REALLY a joke.  If I were RUNNING Windows, a hacker WOULD have access to my SAM file, so who cares!
[02:01] <crimsun> Danar: you seem to have omitted the other parameters.
[02:01] <tats`away> there was a refernce on there to a page specifically for toshibas an dit was quite useful iirc.
[02:01] <vidz> Kyral: kidding :)
[02:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do you think it will still run?
[02:02] <crimsun> Danar: make sure you read the examples at the bottom of the man page.
[02:02] <Kyral> It WON'T run in Cedega nor in Linux
[02:02] <Kyral> Installs, but won't run
[02:02] <Danar> Kyral, you weren't running cedega in linux? o.O
[02:02] <glyph_> is there a program like wine that is free because every time i try to install wine it messes up?
[02:02] <Danar> :p
[02:02] <aarcane> tats`away, thanx :)
[02:02] <tats`away> aarcane yw honey.
[02:02] <cafuego> glyph_: wine *is* free (ish)
[02:02] <Kyral> I keep Cedega around for JO/JA
[02:03] <tats`away> if you need more than that, msg me
[02:03] <Danar> glyph_, cvscedega
[02:03] <pschulz01> Greetings. On Hoary, I am getting 'Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: nable to mount rootfs on unknown-block(0,0)
[02:03] <tats`away> i'll try to get back to you asap but atm i'm running around for a few mins.
[02:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm it diden't give the error the second time around
[02:03] <pschulz01> Has anyone seen this befoe?
[02:03] <glyph_> i know its free but its not that its the installer that messes up
[02:03] <cafuego> pixelmonkey: yes, normally happens when you use an initrd and don pass root=/dev/hdX to the kernel.
[02:03] <bath66> mmh, anyone with running ubuntu PPC ?
[02:04] <cafuego> s/pixelmonkey/pschulz01/
[02:04] <Kyral> On THAT note, anyone know how to UNINSTALL Kubuntu-Desktop (ie, everything it pulled in?)
[02:04] <cafuego> bath66: Yes.
[02:04] <bath66> i can't run my X server in my G4
[02:04] <pixelmonkey> cafuego, damn autocomplete ;-)
[02:04] <pschulz01> This is a default hoary..
[02:04] <cafuego> Kyral: try 'debfoster'
[02:04] <vidz> Kyral: sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop should work?
[02:04] <bath66> it makes an error with the r128 driver
[02:04] <cafuego> pschulz01: What g4? What video card?
[02:04] <nalioth> bath66: have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  ?
[02:04] <bath66> it can't found the bios
[02:04] <cafuego> grrrarrrgh!
[02:04] <cafuego> bath66: Ah yes.
[02:04] <bath66> Ati rage fury 128 ...
[02:05] <Kyral> vidz: it just kills the meta-package
[02:05] <pschulz01> cafuego: ?
[02:05] <zenlunatic> Does anyone know the code to emulate mouse buttons via keyboard in x.org?
[02:05] <glyph_> sigh...
[02:05] <cafuego> bath66: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' - when it asks if it needs to use the framebuffer, say Yes.
[02:05] <bath66> ok
[02:05] <bath66> i try with fbdev too
[02:05] <Danar> glyph_, ?
[02:05] <bath66> and it doesn't work
[02:06] <cafuego> bath66: Hmm. Lemme boot the G3 and check...
[02:06] <Diablo-D3> hey all
[02:06] <pschulz01> cafuego: I'll boot with live CD and check..
[02:06] <Diablo-D3> wow 468 people!
[02:06] <flugh> -plow? hehe, sounds violent
[02:06] <Diablo-D3> amazing!
[02:06] <Kyral> I basically wanna uninstall KDE
[02:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> 469
[02:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> waite 468 >.<
[02:06] <glyph_> at least wine screwd up in Cobind Desktop and FC3 and FC4
[02:06] <TokenBad> crimsun, I don't understand what it means when it says use the one command to set stuff..I copied and pasted into terminal and it just gives error
[02:06] <Diablo-D3> anyhow, whats the build essentials package called on ubuntu?
[02:06] <Kyral> !info build-essential
[02:06] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:06] <Danar> glyph_, any reason you won't try cvscedega?
[02:07] <Kyral> that :P
[02:07] <glyph_> no
[02:07] <Diablo-D3> ahh, thats it
[02:07] <cafuego> flugh: 'priority low'
[02:07] <Danar> glyph_, then what's the problem?
[02:07] <Danar> glyph_, it's free, it plays games, it sounds like what you want...
[02:08] <crimsun> TokenBad: read the bottom examples
[02:08] <glyph_> but i shoud wine's install is messing up is all and i was looking for alternitves just in case it fails agian (need to run steam)
[02:08] <Kyral> but it doesn't have Installshield support
[02:08] <Kyral> Pay Cedega works like a CHARM
[02:08] <cafuego> If you need your windows shite, use windows.
[02:08] <cafuego> sheesh.
[02:08] <Danar> glyph_, what's it doing?
[02:08] <Danar> cafuego, that's hardly good advice :p
[02:08] <TokenBad> crimsun, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/  thats the one i am reading
[02:08] <nalioth> cafuego: hear hear
[02:09] <TokenBad> what examples?
[02:09] <cafuego> Danar: Beats people whining here about cedega for days on end.
[02:09] <Danar> cafuego, so send them to #cedega or something
[02:09] <cafuego> You know. the box said "Designed for Windows".
[02:09] <glyph_> i dont remeber the exact error it was one of those where i would have to reinstall the system to fix it
[02:09] <Danar> cafuego, yeah, and the box on cedega prolly says designed for windows games :p
[02:10] <cafuego> Danar: Either way it windows software (and not Linux software)
[02:10] <Danar> glyph_, you can reinstall/upgrade the kernel without doing that... what would need you to reinstall the system?!
[02:10] <moire> which support do i need for the nforce2 nic?
[02:10] <moire> in kernel
[02:10] <Hikaru79> Anyone know of any third-party ubuntu repositories that have freeride?
[02:10] <crimsun> TokenBad: the example in the ALSA section.
[02:10] <glyph_> sry i ment kernel
[02:10] <crimsun> moire: the forcedeth module.
[02:11] <crimsun> moire: it's already included in the default Ubuntu install.
[02:11] <bath66> cafuego: some news from your G3 ? ;)
[02:11] <glyph_> where do i download cedega
[02:11] <moire> crimsun: yes but i want to compile my own small kernel :)
[02:11] <Danar> glyph_, google cvscedega
[02:11] <moire> and optimized
[02:11] <crimsun> moire: I just told you.
[02:11] <bath66> where is the pipe caracter in a apple keyboard ?
[02:11] <Danar> glyph_, it's free if you build it yourself, otherwise  you need to pay
[02:11] <cafuego> bath66: Okay, mine seems to work OK when agpgart, drm and r128 are loaded in the kernel; the Driver in X is set to 'ati' and Option "UseFBDev" "true" is set.
[02:11] <glyph_> that would be the smart idea eh?
[02:11] <moire> where do i find it in make menuconfig? ;)
[02:12] <bath66> cafuego: that an pci card
[02:12] <cafuego> bath66: Are you running a custom kernel or a stock one?
[02:12] <crimsun> moire: in the ethernet 10/100 section
[02:12] <cafuego> bath66: yes.
[02:12] <Danar> glyph_, but search specifically for cvscedega and you'll find what you need
[02:12] <bath66> that the default kernel from ubuntu
[02:12] <cafuego> bath66: Do you have a BusID set?
[02:12] <moire> name?
[02:12] <Kyral> if I kill something that something depends on with Debfoster, how can I get it back :P
[02:12] <bath66> yes,
[02:13] <bath66> PCI:0:16:0
[02:13] <cafuego> bath66: *nod* same here.
[02:13] <moire> crimsun: i found it thx :)
[02:13] <bath66> mmh ..
[02:14] <cafuego> bath66: I think mine might be using the gatos r128 driver.
[02:14] <Aerebus> whats the command to extract a file with .tar.Z?
[02:14] <cafuego> Aerebus: znew foo.tar.Z
[02:14] <cafuego> Aerebus: Thatl make it a .tar.gz
[02:14] <bath66> mmh
[02:14] <Aerebus> ?
[02:14] <glyph_> thx
[02:15] <Aerebus> how do i extract it?
[02:15] <bath66> now there wasn't the error for bios
[02:15] <bath66> it found it
[02:15] <cafuego> bath66: <heh>
[02:15] <vladuz976> hi my mouse doesn't copy and paste in eterm. left click doesn't work. does anybody have an idea what that might be?
[02:15] <cafuego> bath66: X starting?
[02:15] <^thehatsrule^> tar zxvf ?
[02:15] <bath66> but X "coght signal 11"
[02:15] <tats`away> vladuz976 middleclick
[02:15] <bath66> non
[02:15] <bath66> it don't start
[02:15] <vladuz976> tats`away: don't have 3 button
[02:15] <TokenBad> crimsun, all I see is says run these commands but don't say if run them from doom or what
[02:15] <Aerebus> tar -zxf watever.tar.Z?
[02:15] <TokenBad> or if was to run from alsa
[02:15] <Danar> aeddan, man tar. should be tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[02:15] <bath66> and i don't have (EE)
[02:15] <TokenBad> or some other command first
[02:16] <bath66> just unresolved symbols
[02:16] <cafuego> Aerebus: tar xfZ foo.tar.Z
[02:16] <tats`away> vladuz976 use both buttons at once or push down th ewheel
[02:16] <cafuego> Aerebus: Note the capital Z
[02:16] <vidz> vladuz976: In linux, to emulate the 3rd button, hold down both buttons at once
[02:16] <crimsun> TokenBad: you don't see the section regarding ALSA and plughw?
[02:16] <Kyral> How do I go about searching for broken packages in my system (in like depends?)
[02:16] <cafuego> bath66: ... so something is still missing...
[02:16] <xfSx> hey peeps! is there anyway to choose which packages are installed of the hoary cd, my 1.6gb doesn't seem to be enuff to fit it all in and i want to skip OpenOffice and stuff in order to fit it
[02:17] <kbrooks> cafuego, you dont
[02:17] <kbrooks> cafuego, apt-get -f install
[02:17] <cafuego> kbrooks: why not?
[02:17] <tats`away> wonders if i'd break something if i uninstalled open office
[02:17] <cafuego> tats`away: No, that';l be fine.
[02:17] <kbrooks> cafuego, apt-get -f install # USE!
[02:18] <cafuego> kbrooks: Read back.
[02:18] <kbrooks> why not?
[02:18] <kbrooks> ummm
[02:18] <Aerebus> cafeuego tht doesnt work?
[02:18] <cafuego> kbrooks: How would that fix an X driver issue?
[02:18] <kbrooks> cafuego, sorry
[02:18] <cafuego> *SMACK*
[02:18] <cafuego> Aerebus: Does it print any errors?
[02:18] <kbrooks> lol
[02:19] <vladuz976> tats`away: yes, i can copy that way, what about paste
[02:19] <tats`away> same thing
[02:19] <Aerebus>  tar xfZ whatever.bin.tar.Z tar: compress: Cannot exec: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2
[02:19] <jf6> some one can send me CEDEGA.deb?
[02:19] <vladuz976> tats`away: oh i just highlight it and the middle is paste?
[02:19] <tats`away> yep
[02:19] <Aerebus> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:19] <cafuego> Aerebus: Aha! Ubuntu doesn have compress, eh?
[02:19] <vladuz976> cool thanks
[02:19] <crimsun> jf6: you can download it yourself after you buy a license.
[02:19] <cafuego> !find uncompress
[02:19] <Danar> jf6, just use cvscedega
[02:19] <Aerebus> i am using ubuntu
[02:20] <jf6> crimsun,  i dont hav monai
[02:20] <Aerebus> ....
[02:20] <jf6> Danar,  where?
[02:20] <vladuz976> tats`away: what's a good 3 button mouse to get?
[02:20] <Danar> jf6, it's free if you compile it yourself. google cvscedega and you'll find what you need
[02:20] <Aerebus> why cant it be extracted like a normal file? lol why do i have to turn it into something else?
[02:20] <jf6> how to compile???
[02:20] <jf6> i dont now
[02:20] <jf6> know
[02:20] <tats`away> um M$ or logitechs are good, esp the optical ones vladuz976
[02:20] <Danar> jf6, google cvscedega and you'll find what you need
[02:20] <jf6> can you come on pv
[02:20] <cafuego> Aerebus: Does '/bin/uncompress' exist?
[02:20] <jf6> ?
[02:20] <vidz> vladuz976: M$ intellimouse is one of the most erginomically correct and most comfortable
[02:21] <jf6> i'm french so....
[02:21] <tats`away> vidz only if you're a righty
[02:21] <Danar> vidz, logitech mx series is better
[02:21] <cafuego> vidz: I find them horribly large and uncomfortable.
[02:21] <cafuego> vidz: I'm with Danar
[02:21] <Aerebus> yes it does
[02:21] <vidz> tats`away: no, M$ Intellmouse is ambideztrous
[02:21] <Danar> vidz, that's not a good thing
[02:21] <tats`away> cafuego ya they can be if you have small hands like me.
[02:21] <cafuego> Aerebus: Ok. uncompress foo.tar.Z - | tar xf
[02:21] <Danar> vidz, people are either left or right handed, and should use a suitable mouse
[02:22] <tats`away> shrugs most i've seen from M$ are for rightys.
[02:22] <vidz> tats`away: the Intellimouse is designed for both. It is symetrical
[02:22] <tats`away> esp their tracballs heh.
[02:22] <tats`away> k well thats good to know.
[02:22] <vladuz976> but they are not really 3 button huh?
[02:22] <kbrooks> Aerebus, with .tar.gz.Z (for example), you run uncompress, gunzip then tar
[02:23] <tats`away> if i uninstall OOo, it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop... wtf is that
[02:23] <tats`away> vladuz976 some are, some are not.
[02:23] <kbrooks> tats`away, dont worry
[02:23] <cafuego> kbrooks: tar CLAIMS to understand -Z (for uncompress)
[02:23] <vidz> tats`away, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it doesn't matter
[02:23] <vladuz976> tats`away: which are
[02:23] <tats`away> most mice i've seen use the wheel as the 3rd button
[02:23] <glyph_> another question does ubuntu have YUM or just apt-get?
[02:23] <Danar> it is the third button...
[02:23] <kbrooks> apt
[02:23] <cafuego> Most mice I've seen have no wheel and only one button.
[02:23] <kbrooks> glyph_, rpm != deb
[02:23] <Danar> cafuego, lol
[02:24] <nalioth> glyph_: yum is for rpms, we have apt-get
[02:24] <tats`away> meta package? whats that mean
[02:24] <vladuz976> cafuego: that's apple mice
[02:24] <Danar> tats`away, a fake package that depends on a group of other packages
[02:24] <tats`away> cafuego only if you're on a mac heh in which case you're screwed.
[02:24] <cafuego> tats`away: it references a few hundred other packages, so by installing ubuntu-desktop, you get a few hundred (it's less typing)
[02:24] <glyph_> thx now i feel like i asked a stupid question
[02:24] <tats`away> fake? lol ok
[02:24] <unifi> hi I am having major issues installing mythv on my ubuntu
[02:24] <cafuego> tats`away: Really?
[02:24] <tats`away> k thx.
[02:24] <tats`away> ya really
[02:24] <Danar> tats`away, not "fake" just that it doesn't have anything of it's own. it exists to depend on other packages
[02:25] <tats`away> macs come with mice with no buttons or just 1
[02:25] <vidz> tats`away: For example, say you want to install mp3 support... you do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins. Thats a metapackage (contains 0 files) that depends on all of the plugins and installs them for you
[02:25] <tats`away> some mac mice "tilt" to make a click.
[02:25] <cafuego> tats`away: I seem to recall a one-button mac being by far better and easier to use than a NO-MOUSE dos box or two-button Win box for about a whole decade.
[02:25] <Danar> tats`away, hence 'metapackage'
[02:25] <vladuz976> tats`away: so how can u use them then for other than mac osx
[02:25] <unifi> hi I am having issues installing mythtv on my ubuntu  I am googled to death and I cant find a decent ubuntu tutorial anyone know if one?
[02:25] <xfSx> hey peeps! is there anyway to choose which packages are installed of the hoary cd, my 1.6gb doesn't seem to be enuff to fit it all in and i want to skip OpenOffice and stuff in order to fit it
[02:25] <tats`away> vladuz976 afaik you can't... so stick to pc mice heh
[02:26] <Danar> unifi, might try following a debian tutorial
[02:26] <tats`away> they use a special key combo to imitate 2 button functionality for some reasons.
[02:26] <cafuego> When you were typing up BASIC to make your 286 go BEEP I was doing video editing on a mac <heh>
[02:26] <tats`away> thx for the explanation of the meta thingy whoever :P
[02:26] <kbrooks> unifi, do not repeat
[02:26] <tats`away> cafuego well thats fine ... i just don't like their mouse lol
[02:26] <unifi> danar: hmmm gave that a shot... didnt seem to give
[02:27] <freddy_> heya!
[02:27] <cafuego> tats`away: It was all you needed on macs for a very long time. Contextual menus didn exist back then.
[02:27] <Danar> unifi, well, you might have to modify a few ubuntu-specific things
[02:27] <tats`away> ah ok'
[02:27] <tats`away> that makes sesnse
[02:27] <cafuego> tats`away: These days you *of course* get a Logitech mouse wirh yer Mac.
[02:27] <unifi> danar, have you done an instally?
[02:27] <Danar> unifi, but your basic apt-getting and stuff should work
[02:27] <Danar> unifi, not yet..
[02:27] <vidz> mythtv is KNOWN to be a bear to install. It has a million dependencies
[02:28] <unifi> danar, yes you apt a bunch of packages, but then you have to install from source
[02:28] <crimsun> it's in multiverse and should install fairly easily
[02:28] <tats`away> cafuego seen them w/out good mice still being sold but shrugs i don't use macs so i don't care too much.
[02:28] <cafuego> tats`away: That run Linux very nicely.
[02:28] <cafuego> s/That/They/
[02:29] <Danar> unifi, apt-get install mythtv doesn't do it? it has client & server
[02:29] <Danar> unifi, there's the front-end & back-end in the repository
[02:30] <unifi> danar, yes I gave did that part... you have to also install part of it from source
[02:30] <Velcan> Okay got the files copied off that ntfs drive. now I need to ditch the ntfs. On my system the drive is hdb ... hdb1 is what I mounted .... I want to make sure I use cfdisk correctly. Do I start just by doing 'cfdisk'? Or do I need to do 'cfdisk hdb'? Or something else ...
[02:30] <sdeppert> hey everyone does anyone know how to make flash player work on konqueror
[02:30] <Danar> unifi, which part?
[02:31] <TokenBad> how install alsa source?
[02:31] <unifi> danar, well I am working from this tutorial http://myth.wagstrom.net/index.php/UbuntuInstallation
[02:31] <crimsun> !tell TokenBad about alsa-source
[02:31] <xfSx> anyone know why clicking a tab in firefox with the middle mouse button pastes instead of closing the tab?
[02:31] <biovore> x windows
[02:31] <unifi> danar, I have done all of it except when I am doing the make install I am getting an error and the installation craps out
[02:32] <biovore> middle button is paste
[02:32] <Danar> xfSx, there's a setting for that
[02:32] <Danar> xfSx, might have to look in about:config for it
[02:32] <Danar> xfSx, i think it's the loadcontent one
[02:32] <xfSx> ok cheers danar
[02:33] <Aerebus> is it possible to have Ubuntu use 16bit colors?
[02:33] <Velcan> Can anyone answer my question about cfdisk
[02:34] <Velcan> is it just cfdisk or cfdisk hdb
[02:34] <Danar> unifi, http://lists.olin.edu/pipermail/ocp/2005-January/000196.html
[02:34] <crimsun> Aerebus: sure
[02:35] <Velcan> I guess trial and error never hurt ... much
[02:35] <Aerebus> crimsun, how do i change that option?
[02:35] <newbie> guy's how to get ymessenger with apt-get ??
[02:35] <rommer> what are some programs i can install on a linux server
[02:35] <Danar> newbie, might want to use gaim instead
[02:35] <Velcan> gaim owns
[02:35] <newbie> i dont like gaim
[02:35] <newbie> :)
[02:36] <Danar> newbie, i don't think ymsg is in the repository
[02:36] <Velcan> o_O
[02:36] <newbie> oh
[02:36] <newbie> !_!
[02:36] <ubotu> newbie: No idea
[02:36] <unifi> danar, ok thanks will take a look
[02:36] <Danar> newbie, you like having your window shake and stuff?
[02:36] <vidz> newbie: What don't you like about gaim?
[02:36] <newbie> the ui
[02:36] <newbie> i recenet ym
[02:36] <newbie> *recent
[02:36] <xfSx> yep cool fixed danar thanks
[02:36] <Velcan> I do wish it was skinnable ... maybe someday ... but it still owns
[02:37] <Danar> xfSx, np. i had that before too
[02:37] <vidz> newbie: Does ym do spell checking?
[02:37] <newbie> in gaim can view web cam ??
[02:37] <Danar> xfSx, in trying to fix it i even had it loading content when middle clicking the page o.O
[02:37] <newbie> i don't think so :(
[02:37] <vidz> newbie: No gaim can't view webcam. A friendly fork of gaim, gaim-vv CAN view webcam
[02:38] <newbie> kopete can't join chann too :(
[02:38] <crimsun> Aerebus: either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:38] <crimsun> Aerebus: or via the command line invocation of Xorg
[02:38] <Danar> newbie, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/
[02:38] <vladuz976> does ubuntu not have a .xinit file? where can i look what stuff is being started and where i can add stuff other than from the menu?
[02:39] <Velcan> Yea. I would like to see a skinaable gaim as well as a chat room option with the yahoo side of it
[02:39] <Velcan> someday ...
[02:39] <newbie> umm hot to connect new tab on kvirc ??
[02:39] <newbie> it can be ?
[02:40] <newbie> server -m, i type that got dc
[02:40] <ateves> hi, i have a normal soundblaster 16 running, and all system sounds work fine. what packages do i have to install so that mp3s will be played by e.g. amarok
[02:40] <kanamor> hola
[02:40] <ateves> ?
[02:41] <nalioths_dog> ateves: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[02:41] <crimsun> ateves: assuming you're using the gstreamer engine for amarok, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:41] <nalioth> kanamor: habla espanol?
[02:41] <kanamor> si
[02:41] <cafuego> I note that dvdcss on amd64 makes mplayer sig11 this morning
[02:41] <vladuz976> does ubuntu not have a .xinit file? where can i look what stuff is being started and where i can add stuff other than from the menu?
[02:41] <nalioth> kanamor: por favor en #ubuntu-es
[02:41] <kanamor> muchas gracias
[02:42] <nalioth> kanamor: da nada
[02:42] <vidz> vladuz976: It is under Sessions
[02:42] <vladuz976> vidz: other than from the menu. where is the actual file?
[02:42] <vidz> vladuz976: Sessions is under your Preferences
[02:42] <ateves> so ,what engine do i have to use with amarok? because neither xine nor arts work
[02:42] <nalioth> ateves: you mean like gstreamer?
[02:43] <newbie> !ym
[02:43] <ubotu> newbie: Are you smoking crack?
[02:43] <ateves> probably
[02:43] <newbie> !yahoo
[02:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, newbie
[02:43] <nalioth> ateves: that link the dog sent you will explain
[02:43] <vidz> vladuz976: I don't know
[02:43] <arenner> Anybody use a home network print server that works with Linux? I am thinking about getting one.
[02:43] <vladuz976> does anyone know here?
[02:43] <cafuego> arenner: HP jetDirect with attached laserJet
[02:44] <cafuego> arenner: or any Linux box with attached printer, i suppose.
[02:44] <nalioth> vladuz976: evidentally not, you've asked teh same question quite a few times now
[02:44] <vladuz976> nalioth: no twice
[02:44] <vidz> arenner: My Konico Minolta 2300DL laserjet has a built-in printserver and it works perfectly with Linux
[02:44] <vidz> arenner: I use Jet Direct
[02:44] <vladuz976> nalioth: coz it
[02:44] <arenner> cafuego: I am not really familiar with network print servers. Do the drivers for the printer still have to reside on each desktop?
[02:45] <vladuz976> s a thing i wanna know
[02:45] <vidz> arenner: No
[02:45] <Velcan> What's the name of the GUI util to view harddisks and space remaining
[02:45] <cafuego> arenner: In most cases yes, as opposed to what Velcan says.
[02:45] <nalioth> Velcan: xdiskusage
[02:45] <cafuego> vidz evenm
[02:46] <cafuego> arenner: Keep in mind that you can turn any Linux bnox into a network print server; you can easily share the printer with mac/windows/linux clients using CUPS and Samba.
[02:46] <vidz> Maybe I'm wrong and cups has the drivers by default
[02:46] <arenner> So do I need to be sure that the printer I purchase is also supported by both linux and windows?
[02:46] <kanamor> nalioth me puedes ayudar tu? por favor?
[02:47] <vidz> 95% of printers work fine with linux and windows
[02:47] <cafuego> arenner: Just linux. Check www.linux-printing.org for supported hardware; they invariable support windows.
[02:47] <arenner> cafuego: problem is that both my wife and I use laptops. Mine is Linux, hers windows, and neither is on the network all the time
[02:47] <cafuego> arenner: Aaah :-)
[02:47] <vidz> arenner: If you have the money, buy a printer that is network enabled
[02:47] <cafuego> arenner: Mebbe even consider one with built-in wifi.
[02:48] <arenner> vidz: how much money does that run?
[02:48] <nalioth> kanamor: ingles, por favor
[02:48] <ykrs> nalioth: lots of portuguese speaking users?
[02:48] <vidz> arenner: Well I just bought a color laserjet. Keep in mind that a color laserjet with built-in networking is expensive. A Konico Minolta 2300DL from CompUSA was $350 after a rebate I just got
[02:48] <vladuz976> nalioth: are there ubuntu channels where we can speak our native languages?
[02:48] <keyshawn> howdy - can someone remind me where the log for apt-get errors is located ?
[02:48] <kanamor> nalioth little english here, but oki, hmmm
[02:49] <pepsix> how do i make a program run as root?
[02:49] <cafuego> arenner: They're pertty cheap these days.
[02:49] <keyshawn> pepsix, sudo
[02:49] <vidz> pepsix, sudo program
[02:49] <pepsix> not sudo
[02:49] <pepsix> SUID
[02:49] <nalioth> vladuz976: yes there are for most languages
[02:49] <keyshawn> ahaha.
[02:49] <cafuego> pepsix: man chmod
[02:49] <vidz> pepsix, chmod 4755 program
[02:49] <kanamor> nalioth i need disable the beep sound in lm-sensors
[02:49] <pepsix> thanks, so its chmod that i use to do that
[02:49] <arenner> cafuego: thanks for the advice
[02:49] <arenner> vidz: thanks for the advice
[02:49] <cafuego> pepsix: Note that shell scripts are not programs.
[02:50] <nalioth> kanamor: i do not know what lm-sensors are
[02:50] <ykrs> this is great. i still cant believe. i came from gentoo... my older system took 4 days to compile itself... ubuntu in less than 50min was completely configured... i still can believe
[02:50] <keyshawn> vladuz976, there's ubuntu-pr
[02:50] <vidz> You can only make shell scripts run as root with sudo. It's a security feature of bash
[02:50] <kanamor> nalioth aah okis, thx 8)
[02:50] <nalioth> anyone know about lm-sensor beeps?  >>>see kanamor
[02:50] <nalioth> kanamor: uno momento
[02:50] <keyshawn> and try www.ubuntu-br.org
[02:50] <vladuz976> keyshawn: what is pr?
[02:50] <keyshawn> that's a brazilian ubuntu site.
[02:50] <pepsix> i want tvtime to run as root, but i dont want to have to sudo
[02:50] <vladuz976> keyshawn: sorry no portugese here
[02:50] <keyshawn> pr, as far as i can tell, is portugeuse [sp?] 
[02:50] <cafuego> ykrs: Virtually all sane distros just install without recompiling everything needlessly.
[02:50] <kanamor> nalioth ok, thx again
[02:51] <keyshawn> its another channel
[02:51] <jsmidt> Every time I run apt-get update I get this message:
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <pepsix> woah
[02:51] <jsmidt> It then says:
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:51] <jsmidt> But this problem happens every time I run apt-get update. Does anybody know what this problem is or how to fix it?
[02:51] <ykrs> cafuego: yes, but none so far auto-configured itself, at least for me
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: please use #flood for that
[02:51] <josh__> I tried to install stuff like mplayer-k6 but this, like many other things, seemed to depend on stuff with md5 sums.
[02:51] <GnuKemist> I need to pass some command to my AMD64 (fresh install) during the initial prompt... can someone gimme a hand, please?
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: yes, the us repos are wonky
[02:51] <josh__> Ah.
[02:51] <TokenBad> is the OSS sound system installed by default in ubuntu
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: edit your sources.list to remove the us. in us.archive.blah
[02:51] <josh__> So... is that a long standing thing?
[02:52] <keyshawn> vladuz976, got it under control ?
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: Hit 'e' at that initial prompt, then add your param.
[02:52] <nalioth> jsmidt: then try again
[02:52] <vladuz976> keyshawn: no
[02:52] <GnuKemist> cafuego, thanx... will try it
[02:52] <jsmidt> thanks nalioth
[02:52] <nalioth> josh__: yes same thing, edit your sources.list
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: ... or is it at the installer prompt?
[02:52] <vladuz976> GnuKemist: -de for german and -jp for japanese?
[02:52] <Danar> what do i need to install to play wmv?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> cafuego, yup
[02:52] <freddy_> nalioth ;)
[02:52] <ykrs> gnukemist: whats your video card?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> ykrs, NVidia 5200
[02:52] <keyshawn> vladuz976, im sorry, its ubuntu-pt
[02:52] <ykrs> gnukemist: my other system, a amd64 had serious issues with a radeon
[02:52] <nalioth> Danar: w32codecs, but don't hold your breath for anything made by wmp9 or 10
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: On the cd, just type 'linux-2.6 <your params>'
[02:52] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, huh?
[02:53] <keyshawn> or ubuntu-br
[02:53] <Danar> thx
[02:53] <ykrs> gnukemist: should be fine
[02:53] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, oh... s'ok... I speak EN too
[02:53] <vladuz976> keyshawn: -pt is gonna do me no good
[02:53] <jtan325> when you do  "connect to server" using the default gnome panel, you get a nice little icon on your desktop for later use. does anyone know what the command-line equivalent of that is?
[02:53] <cafuego> ykrs: yes, ATI and AMD64 don't really mix well.
[02:53] <Danar> nalioth, no installation candidate
[02:53] <vladuz976> GnuKemist: good to know
[02:53] <GnuKemist> cafuego, my problem is the HD
[02:53] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, ;)
[02:53] <nalioth> Danar: you need to enable backports for this thing (then disable after you've gotten them)
[02:53] <ykrs> cafuego: so it seems... kde thought managed to get past it. kubuntu there.
[02:53] <nalioth> !backports
[02:53] <ubotu> well, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:54] <ykrs> cafuego: dont ask me how.
[02:54] <GnuKemist> cafuego, for some reason I always need to use hdparm before installing
[02:54] <ykrs> tough* sorry
[02:54] <keyshawn> yeah, ubuntu definitely needs to work on multilingual support [in the forums, etc]  if they really want it to be universal :)
[02:54] <cafuego> GnuKemist: Chipset too new
[02:54] <GnuKemist> cafuego, indeed
[02:54] <keyshawn> [at least provide links to other forums which can be in diff. langs] 
[02:54] <cafuego> GnuKemist: See if you get the latest kernel.
[02:54] <Danar> nalioth, how? is that the only way to play wmv?
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: afaik, yes
[02:55] <ykrs> gnukemist: is it a SATA hd?
[02:55] <keyshawn> howdy - can someone remind me where the log for apt-get errors is located ?
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: you might try using vlc, it has native support for lots of files
[02:55] <GnuKemist> cafuego, so do you think I can do this at the install prompt: linux-2.6 hdparm -d 1 -A 1 -m 16 -u 1 -a 64 /dev/hda?
[02:55] <cafuego> Danar: What did you think the 'W'in wmv stood for? ;-)
[02:55] <GnuKemist> ykrs, nope
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: but the codecs will allow your whole system to access win32 things
[02:55] <cafuego> GnuKemist: No
[02:55] <cafuego> GnuKemist: hdparm isn available in the installer.
[02:56] <Danar> nalioth, not worried about that right now. i'm on the livecd
[02:56] <GnuKemist> cafuego, oh boy
[02:56] <Danar> cafuego, i know :p
[02:56] <ykrs> gnukemist, do you have access to another HD? you could clone the HD later, with some third party tool
[02:57] <GnuKemist> cafuego, that works under Gentoo... maybe I could run it via the "Execute a shell" menu?
[02:57] <GnuKemist> ykrs, don't have one
[02:57] <carl> if the perms files on a CD are 700, some mystry user/group - how do I mount it so the local user can read the files?
[02:57] <Danar> vlc didn't work
[02:57] <ykrs> gnukemist, on gentoo you already have a prompt, on ubuntu during install youe not under bash yet
[02:57] <carl> if I try to CD into a dir on it i get " Permission denied"
[02:57] <nalioth> Danar: then its w32codecs, via the backports
[02:58] <jsmidt> does anybody know what this problem is:
[02:58] <nalioth> Danar: or you can download them from www.mplayerhq.hu
[02:58] <jsmidt> Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages
[02:58] <jsmidt>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:58] <pepsix> ok, so chmod +s sets the SUID bit
[02:58] <cafuego> GnuKemist: No, coz you'd *still* need to actually have the hdparm command available on the cd, and it isn't afaik.
[02:58] <nalioth> jsmidt: means your apt hiccupped, try it again
[02:58] <jsmidt> thank you
[02:58] <GnuKemist> ykrs, actually am at a point after some files have been copied to HD...  it worked here...
[02:59] <cafuego> pepsix: yes. it's not normally a good idea to use that willy-nilly
[02:59] <GnuKemist> cafuego, been able to do it after borking during file copying
[02:59] <pepsix> cafuego, i know... i wanted to do it with this program though
[02:59] <supernix> what is the difference between the regular packages and those marked universe ?
[02:59] <cafuego> GnuKemist: You can check alt-F2 (new console) and see if it's there
[03:00] <pepsix> it needs to access the realtime clock with high precision
[03:00] <ykrs> gnukemist, do you have access to a floppy drive? you could copy hdparm and mount the floppy later then
[03:00] <ykrs> (if it fits)
[03:00] <cafuego> pepsix: Maybe better to setgid it and fix the permissions on /dev/trc
[03:00] <cafuego> rtc too
[03:00] <GnuKemist> cafuego, gotcha...
[03:00] <pepsix> hrm
[03:00] <Velcan> ah crap ... i gone screwed something up o_O .... when i got to open synaptic i get this error with both my password or the root password - 'Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[03:00] <Velcan>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.'
[03:00] <learn25> Hello everybody
[03:00] <GnuKemist> ykrs, don't think I have any floppies around...
[03:01] <learn25> help please...
[03:01] <tats`away> goddamn it took almost 14mins an xchat froze to uninstall OOo
[03:01] <TokenBad> how install OSS?
[03:01] <Danar> you can get it with deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ hoary main
[03:01] <pepsix> cafuego, if i run `sysctl -w dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024` i dont need it to run as root, but id need to run that on every boot
[03:01] <learn25> what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.
[03:01] <cafuego> tats`away: For future reference, the cd also has an option to do a minimal install ;-)
[03:01] <tats`away> sigh
[03:01] <tats`away> ya i know that cafuego
[03:01] <thr1ce> Danar, what's that for?
[03:01] <tats`away> its a server install w/no X iirc
[03:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[03:02] <tats`away> now i just need a decent little wordprocessor
[03:02] <learn25> what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.
[03:02] <learn25> help
[03:02] <cafuego> pepsix: Just add that to /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:02] <Danar> thr1ce, not sure what all is in there but you can get w32codecs from it
[03:02] <tats`away> on damn small linux i use FLWriter or pathetic write but neither seems to exist in ubuntu
[03:02] <thr1ce> learn25, search man
[03:02] <learn25> how?
[03:02] <pepsix> cafuego, thanks :D so helpful
[03:02] <thr1ce> Danar, aah, gotcha =\
[03:02] <thr1ce> locate vsftpd ?
[03:02] <thr1ce> sudo locate*
[03:02] <Velcan> anyone have any ideas as to why the system cannot copy my Xauthorization file?
[03:03] <pepsix> because its owned by root maybe
[03:03] <pepsix> fix that
[03:03] <Velcan> it's owned by me
[03:03] <pepsix> oh fun
[03:03] <pepsix> i had a problem with that cause root owned it
[03:03] <jtan325> asnyone know how to do the equivalent of "connect to server" from the command line?
[03:03] <Velcan> i wess messing around with permissions when it happed
[03:04] <pepsix> do you own the parent dir?
[03:04] <jtan325> nautilus-connect-to-server brings up the window, but there doesn't seem to be any options for it
[03:04] <Danar> nalioth, i installed w32codecs but i still can't play it
[03:04] <benkong2> hello
[03:04] <jtan325> i.e. i have to type it in. i want to emulate the behavior done from the icons placed on your dektop, from the command line
[03:04] <nalioth> Danar: did you restart your player, and is it a wmv3 datatype?
[03:04] <Velcan> and to make sure as root i did chown -R matthew:matthew /home/matthew && chmod -R 755 /home/matthew
[03:05] <Danar> nalioth, yep
[03:05] <benkong2> got a question about hostname and domain name when installing qmail. could someone help?
[03:05] <GnuKemist> cafuego, got the same error again... "Input/Output error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc"
[03:05] <nalioth> Danar: if its wmv3 you are most likely out of luck
[03:05] <Danar> [00000283]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.
[03:05] <Danar> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[03:05] <TokenBad> anyone?
[03:05] <GnuKemist> jtan325, which program?
[03:05] <Danar> nalioth, why's that?
[03:06] <spermie_> i know this is a stupid question to you all, but do any of you use a snes emulator, if so whats it called ?
[03:06] <Danar> spermie_, zsnes
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, nautilus
[03:06] <Quest-Master> Zsnes, spermie_
[03:06] <Velcan> yea zsnes
[03:06] <nalioth> Danar: b/c uncle bill has kept his codecs well hidden
[03:06] <Quest-Master> spermie_.. just curious.. why do you have that name?
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, you know how after you do a "connect to server" successfully, nautilus places an icon on your desktop?
[03:06] <benkong2> if my dyndns address is benkong2.ath.cx is that my fqdn? the name of my nix box is tuxserver is that my hostname?
[03:06] <pepsix> Velcan, i think i just deleted my .Xauthority file when i had problems with it
[03:06] <GnuKemist> jtan325, yup... lemme think
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, I would like to know what's the command that actually gets executed wehn i click on that icon
[03:06] <TokenBad> found out in hurry now to do apt-cache search oss
[03:07] <TokenBad> so how can install it?
[03:07] <nalioth> Danar: wmv is windows media video (and the latest versions of wmv havent been reverse engineered yet)
[03:07] <DekaPink> Hey... I'm trying to install the ATI proprietary driver... and it keeps saying this to me when I try to run the install: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/481
[03:07] <Velcan> i'll try that ... i'll rename it to something else
[03:07] <GnuKemist> cafuego, did u get a chance to read my msg?
[03:07] <Danar> nalioth, didn't realize wmv3 was the latest version
[03:07] <spermie_> Danar so i would do : sudo apt-get install zsnes
[03:07] <Danar> spermie_, yep
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok that program for gnome that background changer
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, if it's not there, make sure you enable multiverse repository
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> dosen't work while x has a bacgrounf
[03:08] <spermie_> spermie@Spermie:~$  sudo apt-get install zsnes
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, if it's still not there, check zsnes.com
[03:08] <thr1ce> no, zsnes should be
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, nvm. it's there
[03:09] <Velcan> ima try rebooting
[03:09] <bimberi> Hi all.  What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions?
[03:09] <hou5ton> anyone here have any luck with syncing a treo 650
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , why is it that when using that background changeing program that i can only see the results after gnome is logging out?
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's like it puts the image behind the gnome wallpapaer
[03:09] <Danar> spermie_, FYI: it'll save yer stuff in ~/.zsnes
[03:10] <thr1ce> any good site for snes roms ?
[03:10] <DekaPink> For some reason it doesn't want to recognize ./ anymore.
[03:10] <Danar> thr1ce, shouldn't be asking that ;)
[03:10] <thr1ce> Danar, they're legal, assuming the user owns the games he's downloading
[03:10] <aerich> can someone help? can't seem to install ubuntu, screen goes blank after i press enter (on flatpanel or crt monitor) and even if i use framebuffer=false
[03:10] <vidz> thr1ce: Use limewire
[03:11] <DekaPink> Anyone know why it might be doing that? :)
[03:11] <jtan325> GnuKemist, any ideas?
[03:11] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i'm not sure at all
[03:11] <Hentai> is there a ubuntu live CD?
[03:11] <nalioth> ask and run
[03:11] <nalioth> Hentai: yes there is
[03:11] <Danar> Hentai, i'm on it
[03:11] <Hentai> ok
[03:12] <Danar> Hentai, comes with the install cd if you order it
[03:12] <phzi> anyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?
[03:13] <GnuKemist> jtan325, am checking... nothing so far
[03:13] <Hentai> Danar err ok
[03:13] <phzi> I am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)
[03:13] <aerich_> sorry d/c
[03:13] <aerich_> so can anyone help?
[03:13] <Hentai> theres gonna have to be something about ubuntu to keep me using it
[03:13] <phzi> what's wrong aerich?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know about chgb ?
[03:14] <phzi> Hentai: I switched from windows
[03:14] <phzi> because I liked ubuntu so much
[03:14] <vladuz976> what do you do when your girlfriend get's mad at you coz you spend too much time on the computer?
[03:14] <nalioth> Hentai: Danar is pointing out the the free CDs you are shipped are attractively packed in pairs, one live, one install
[03:14] <tats`away> hm whats ubuntu-base bad to remove ? i presume so?
[03:14] <nalioth> Hentai: for ppc, i386 or amd64
[03:14] <Ramiro> hola
[03:14] <{J}tatiana> hm
[03:14] <vladuz976> Hentai: is that a japanese name :-)
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone?
[03:14] <{J}tatiana> shrug
[03:15] <Ramiro> alguien que hable en espaol?
[03:15] <{J}tatiana> try #ubuntu-es Ramiro
[03:15] <Hentai> well its japanese
[03:15] <cafuego> Hentai: If you stop, we'll come and break your legs.
[03:15] <vladuz976> Hentai: ARE YOU?
[03:15] <holycow> vladuz976, i dare you to google said japanese name
[03:15] <holycow> -_-
[03:15] <Ramiro> oki gracias tatiana
[03:15] <{J}tatiana> np Ramiro
[03:15] <phzi> vladuz976: you being serious?
[03:15] <Hentai> what cafuego?
[03:15] <vladuz976> phzi: yes
[03:15] <vladuz976> holycow: i didn't
[03:15] <cafuego> Hentai: You said you needed a reason to keep Ubuntu.
[03:15] <phzi> vladuz976: you stop using the computer so much, and try having sex
[03:15] <Hentai> oh lol
[03:16] <phzi> or just try 'cuddling', you might even enjoy it
[03:16] <vladuz976> holycow: my girlfriend calls me that
[03:16] <senseless> i just installed the msttcorefonts, and it says they are installed, but they are not listed anywhere
[03:16] <{J}tatiana> cuddlings good heh
[03:16] <vladuz976> phzi: is that what she wants when she says that
[03:16] <phzi> ya
[03:16] <phzi> probably wants you to have nothing to do, so you pay attention to her
[03:17] <phzi> just random acts of cuddling work well
[03:17] <phzi> only has to last 30 seconds
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:17] <phzi> :P
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> rmes @ philips
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> oops phzi
[03:17] <cafuego> phzi: That's what cats are for.
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> remind me to never be your gf heh
[03:17] <phzi> meh, I've spent the last two days on my computer
[03:17] <phzi> and my girlfriend comes and curls up on my lap once and a while
[03:18] <phzi> it's enough attention to keep her happy
[03:18] <holycow> is your gf's name fluffy?
[03:18] <{J}tatiana> your gf must only date geeks to be so happy ;P
[03:18] <cafuego> phzi: So your girlfriend *is* a cat eh
[03:18] <holycow> inquiring minds want to know
[03:18] <holycow> >_>
[03:18] <phzi> lol
[03:18] <vladuz976> phzi: you lucky bastard
[03:18] <cafuego> bimberi: Hmm, that gets me slapped
[03:18] <phzi> she sure is acting like a cat, now that you mention
[03:18] <cafuego> BeefTube even
[03:18] <holycow> c'mon thats funnny!
[03:18] <holycow> damn, tought crowd
[03:18] <holycow> *cough*
[03:19] <phzi> lol
[03:19] <vladuz976> phzi: holycow your nick is almost as good as Hentai
[03:19] <phzi> lol
[03:19] <holycow> if your into that kinda thing, sure
[03:19] <cafuego> phzi: try a bowl of fish heads.
[03:19] <cafuego> phzi: if she goes for it, she *might* not be a human
[03:19] <glyph_> where can i find xlib and xfree86?
[03:19] <Velcan> lol ... it was because my drive filled up in transferring that gobs of info off an ntfs drive <crys>
[03:19] <phzi> I'm pretty happy with myself right now
[03:20] <phzi> I did a fresh install of ubuntu for the first time two days ago
[03:20] <{J}tatiana> fresh cuz it was starting to smell ?
[03:20] <phzi> and I have my dual header working (bought a new NV card because my ATI sucked)
[03:20] <{J}tatiana> :)
[03:20] <vladuz976> phzi: what did u have before?
[03:20] <cafuego> glyph_: Ubuntu uses xorg, not xfree86
[03:20] <senseless> noone has an answer?
[03:20] <glyph_> help??
[03:20] <phzi> winblows and gentoo
[03:20] <shortcircuit> can someone help me with a usb error? i cant mount my ipod and this is the error from dmesg: can't set config #1, error -71
[03:20] <phzi> but I could never get gentoo configged the way I liked it
[03:20] <glyph_> ah well can i get it to add?
[03:20] <phzi> now, it's so beautiful
[03:20] <vladuz976> phzi: didn't like gentoo?
[03:20] <phzi> I did
[03:21] <cafuego> glyph_: apt-get install x-window-system
[03:21] <glyph_> thx
[03:21] <phzi> not as much as ubuntu
[03:21] <sdeppert> hey every one I'm trying to install unreal 2004 on my computer and I cant get the installer to work does anyone have any ideas on how to make it work?
[03:21] <phzi> I love debian style package managment
[03:21] <thr1ce> sdeppert, cd into the mount DIR
[03:21] <Aegir> apt rawks :D
[03:21] <Danar> senseless, in synaptic, click the package, click properties and check the installed files tab
[03:21] <BeefTube> gentoo needs automated installer
[03:21] <{J}tatiana> virgule = comma in french.. how odd
[03:21] <thr1ce> then sh install.sh or whatever
[03:21] <cafuego> gentoo needs to go away and die
[03:21] <phzi> lol BeefTube: it wouldn't be gentoo then
[03:21] <phzi> the whole point of gentoo, is that's it the 'from-source' distro
[03:22] <regeya> indeed
[03:22] <senseless> Danar, everything i want seems to be installed
[03:22] <BeefTube> yea it would advance to genthree
[03:22] <shortcircuit> i love emerege but i never liked the gentoo instability
[03:22] <phzi> anyone here using a SB Live 24-bit?
[03:22] <regeya> plus that garbage of some packages having different compile-time options
[03:22] <phzi> emerge is cool, but honestly, I prefer apt-gt
[03:22] <NeoGeo64> im about to wipe my computer and install just ubuntu
[03:22] <virgule> {J}tatiana: i got that nick from a workmate ;)
[03:22] <regeya> gentoo can be stable, but it's about as exciting as debian stable
[03:22] <cafuego> shortcircuit: Liar it's got higher version numbers so it's got more stable lololrxz!!!
[03:22] <{J}tatiana> heh cool
[03:22] <shortcircuit> yea
[03:22] <BeefTube> i broke my ubuntu
[03:22] <glyph_> i got this in place of the install sequence package x-windows-system has no insallation candidate
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[03:23] <shortcircuit> lol
[03:23] <regeya> it's possible to break ubuntu
[03:23] <DekaPink> I apparently broke my ubuntu. o.O
[03:23] <regeya> lord knows I try
[03:23] <phzi> lol
[03:23] <phzi> how can you break linux?
[03:23] <phzi> you can always fix the configs
[03:23] <cafuego> regeya: No, actually I didn't know.
[03:23] <BeefTube> you guys see my pictures I made in blender?
[03:23] <BeefTube> http://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444501#444501
[03:23] <glyph_> changed a zero to a one eh?
[03:23] <phzi> unless you like..... really really screw up and delete /bin or something
[03:23] <holycow> hosing linux is fairly simple
[03:23] <regeya> cafeuego: :P
[03:23] <Danar> i broke debian, so i'm switching to ubuntu :p
[03:23] <DekaPink> I don't know what's going on but it doesn't recognize ./ for like... running stuff. o.O
[03:23] <regeya> cafuego even
[03:23] <phzi> holycow: but if you know what your doing, fixing it is just as easy
[03:23] <shortcircuit> mu ipod is broken on ubuntu, i keep getting " can't set config #1, error -71" in dmesg when i try to mount it
[03:24] <holycow> phzi, unfortunately, that requires skillzors
[03:24] <regeya> indeed
[03:24] <regeya> the skills change over time as well
[03:24] <Hentai> argh
[03:24] <redrose> does the livecd come with the ability to make a persistante home drive?
[03:24] <cafuego> You need to reember to sudo -s before you can REALLY break it
[03:24] <phzi> rednose: no
[03:25] <regeya> that time spent researching devfs problems a few years ago comes in handy these days
[03:25] <phzi> but you could make one manually
[03:25] <holycow> the saving grace for linux, at least for me, is that everything being open you can actually drill down into a problem if you need to
[03:25] <holycow> or can hire someone who can
[03:25] <phzi> and modify the live CD to mount it automatically
[03:25] <regeya> and knowing how the world of linux works, that udev knowledge will be useless by 2008
[03:25] <holycow> with closed source your always waiting for the next patch set
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does any one know how to use ChBg background changer?
[03:25] <DekaPink> Is there another command I can use besides ./ to... run... stuff?
[03:25] <phzi> what stuff?
[03:25] <redrose> ok... just checking...
[03:25] <phzi> sh
[03:25] <regeya> what are you on about DekaPink
[03:25] <redrose> ty
[03:25] <holycow> and i have hired people to solve linux related problems and its a bit of an eye opener when you can actually get something fixed as per your needs
[03:25] <phzi> DekaPink: sh for some 'stuff'
[03:25] <phzi> works instead of ./
[03:26] <glyph_> had  to get it from x.org to install it w00t
[03:26] <jf6> racoon97_,  test la?
[03:26] <regeya> and the current codebase of the kernel will be 98% gone by 2009
[03:26] <virgule> whats that a 'signal 11'? SIGSEGV?
[03:26] <racoon97_> jf6 ouais
[03:26] <regeya> but what the hell, you only live once.
[03:26] <DekaPink> Trying to install the proprietary ATI driver, and it's like "use ./drivername.run" to install me" but when I do that, ubuntu says that the command isn't found.
[03:26] <racoon97_> hi anyone
[03:26] <glyph_> hi
[03:26] <phzi> hi
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what program controls the background in ubuntu?
[03:27] <phzi> background?
[03:27] <phzi> you mean wallpaper?
[03:27] <cafuego> DekaPink: There's a prepackaged one.
[03:27] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: did you go to gnomefiles.com?
[03:27] <holycow> DekaPink, sudo ./whatever.run
[03:27] <Danar> DekaPink, run chmod +x filename, then ./
[03:27] <racoon97_> we are french ubuntu user (me and jf6)
[03:27] <jf6> YES
[03:27] <DekaPink> Thank you. :D
[03:27] <keyshawn> et moi aussi !
[03:27] <jf6> and we love sex
[03:27] <keyshawn> du rien
[03:27] <jf6> keyshawn,  cool
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , yes i did i downloaded the stuff from all three links
[03:27] <racoon97_> keyshawn >  cool !
[03:27] <jf6> THE FrENCH COMPANY!
[03:27] <BeefTube> sudo sh whatever.run sometimes too!
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and am gonna try things one at a time
[03:28] <keyshawn> mais, je parle le francais
[03:28] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and none of them worked?
[03:28] <cafuego> DekaPink: You will want the  xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source packages.
[03:28] <jf6> euh on leur fai la marseilleise?
[03:28] <phzi> GAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! anyone know about configuring .asoundrc for mutli outputs?
[03:28] <keyshawn> non.
[03:28] <jf6> si!
[03:28] <jf6> ALLONS ENFANT DE LA PATRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:28] <phzi> everything I've tried doesn't work
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , haven't tryed them yet i have yet to compile them i'm trying to fix chbg right now it's doin something weard
[03:28] <keyshawn> maintenant, j'habite aux etats-unis.
[03:28] <phzi> or just starts playing out of only the back speakers
[03:28] <racoon97_> jf6 >  ptet qui faut pas parler francais ici ... :-] 
[03:28] <jf6> LE JOUR DE GLOIRE EST ARRIV
[03:28] <virgule> ils sont fous ces francais >_<
[03:28] <jf6> racoon97_,  je sait :)
[03:29] <racoon97_> jf6 ta gueule :)
[03:29] <jf6> virgule,  lol
[03:29] <keyshawn> hehe.
[03:29] <jf6> NON!
[03:29] <cafuego> phzi: Did you check that the drivers/arts support surround?
[03:29] <jf6> I'M A FREE MAN!
[03:29] <racoon97_> Ubuntu c'est bien !
[03:29] <jf6> YEs
[03:29] <cafuego> phzi: Coz it wouldn t surprise me if they didn't
[03:29] <jf6> bush c'est mal
[03:29] <jf6> :p
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , it's hiding the backgrounds behind the wallpaper you usually see so i kinda want to kill the part of the desktop in gnome
[03:29] <keyshawn> jf6, je crois aussi
[03:29] <racoon97_> jf6 >  tu cherches des emmerdes ?
[03:29] <jf6> racoon97_,  atta
[03:29] <jf6> ^^
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , just to see what happens
[03:29] <phzi> cafuego: yes they do
[03:30] <phzi> it's completely supported
[03:30] <DanielHolth> just installed hoary, hooray.
[03:30] <daniels> ok, guys, while I'm sure the French discussion has been amusing, it's off-topic.
[03:30] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have fun
[03:30] <phzi> I just can't write the config properly
[03:30] <daniels> can we please get back to Ubuntu support here?
[03:30] <jf6> HEY ENGLISH, MY MOTHER SAYED, AMERICAN WERE SOON OF BITCH
[03:30] <daniels> (in english)
[03:30] <phzi> the driver works by having 3 channels (front, back, mid)
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , what it can't be done?
[03:30] <racoon97_> daniels > soory
[03:30] <Danar> daniels, are you sure? you speak french? ;p
[03:30] <racoon97_> sorry
[03:30] <daniels> jf6: please stop
[03:30] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. ANYTHING can be done
[03:30] <jf6> AND THE ENGLISH WERE THE SOON OF AN OTHER BITCH
[03:30] <daniels> Danar: well, this channel is defined to be english
[03:30] <racoon97_> ok try to speak english too
[03:30] <cafuego> jf6: Can you switch off the caps-lock, please?
[03:30] <{J}tatiana> jf6 feme ta guele svp
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , touche ^_^
[03:30] <Danar> daniels, where?
[03:30] <keyshawn> right, danny
[03:31] <{J}tatiana> +q?
[03:31] <virgule> huh ho
[03:31] <Danar> daniels, the channel name isn't even english :p
[03:31] <cafuego> That works too.
[03:31] <racoon97_> hey guys
[03:31] <daniels> Danar: heh.  it's somewhere in the rules.  but trust me that it's english.
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth if i can't get it to work i'm gonna be peeved
[03:31] <thr1ce> is /mnt/cdrom default for cdroms?
[03:31] <keyshawn> ha > good point.
[03:31] <Danar> daniels, bah. you're no fun :p
[03:31] <racoon97_> do you know where we can't find some good backports ?
[03:31] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. there is always a way
[03:31] <cafuego> thr1ce: No, /media/cdrom0
[03:31] <keyshawn> where's the ubuntu-en - hehe.
[03:31] <daniels> Danar: that's my job
[03:31] <regeya> SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE
[03:31] <cafuego> keyshawn: This is actually ubuntu-nl but we tolerate english
[03:31] <keyshawn> well, i guess that's all due to mark shuttleworth.
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i killed the background app the other day but forgot how i did it >.<
[03:32] <racoon97_> because on our french forum it's very diifcult to get some
[03:32] <thr1ce> cafuego, ok, thanks...used to devfs and trying to help someone -_-
[03:32] <Velcan> I thought home directories where only limited in size if they were set as a sized partition at install. Am I wrong?
[03:32] <regeya> ooh devfs
[03:32] <regeya> see
[03:32] <phzi> sigh
[03:32] <Danar> {J}tatiana, +q = quiet
[03:32] <phzi> anyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?
[03:32] <thr1ce> hehe
[03:32] <cafuego> Velcan: if the disk is full the disk is full...
[03:32] <thr1ce> devfs is nice
[03:32] <phzi> I am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)
[03:32] <{J}tatiana> which does what Danar
[03:32] <mindamp> how come everything i try to install with apt-get says "couldn't find package"?
[03:32] <keyshawn> yeah, daniels, if I have a suggestion for ubuntu, where should I post it ? [so upper mods would read it] 
[03:32] <mindamp> i.e. mysql-server
[03:32] <mindamp> and php4
[03:32] <Danar> {J}tatiana, quiets them
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth somehow it left the gnome bars still running but killed the bacground so i'm not shure what part of x it was
[03:33] <{J}tatiana> lol i guessed but wasn't sure it was a real command or not
[03:33] <Velcan> oh crap! duh .... i forgot about the new image files i put on that ntfs drive
[03:33] <mindamp> can anyone help me?
[03:33] <Velcan> no wonder its taking up so much space
[03:33] <Velcan> lol
[03:34] <Velcan> i was like ... I have 30g of music ... :\
[03:34] <Danar> heh
[03:34] <mindamp> who cares how much music you have
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, use synaptic
[03:34] <mindamp> lets talk about development and ubuntu shall we?
[03:34] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you'll get it
[03:34] <holycow> or search apt repository
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i do now go away >.<
[03:34] <mindamp> synaptic doesn't have the package listed aither holycow
[03:34] <Hentai> think my wifi card died
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, you need to know about apt-cache search package
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth yea i hope so
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, maybe its not supported in the base 2000 packages
[03:34] <mindamp> apt-cache search doesn't find it either
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, you need to enable universe
[03:34] <Velcan> i dont have that much thats what im saying ...
[03:34] <holycow> then do apt-get update
[03:34] <holycow> then you will find it
[03:35] <mindamp> how do i enable universe?
[03:35] <holycow> open up synaptic ...
[03:35] <mindamp> yeh
[03:35] <holycow> theres a button on the bottom, lets you check off univers repositories
[03:35] <Hentai> oh no not again
[03:35] <nalioth> hentai?
[03:35] <mindamp> ill try that
[03:35] <mindamp> thanks
[03:36] <Velcan> mindamp:  allthough this is often used for help mind you it is still nativly a chat client and i was just chatting
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mybackground-properties-0.0.1.tar.bz2 what to do with this file?
[03:36] <Hentai> nalioth I killed my pc card slot on my laptop
[03:36] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: open it
[03:36] <mindamp> worked perfectly holycow, appreciate the help
[03:36] <nalioth> Hentai: like with a screwdriver?
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth duh lol but.....um........how?
[03:36] <Hentai> no
[03:37] <mindamp> velcan, no your client is a chat client
[03:37] <learn25> help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?
[03:37] <mindamp> this channel is about ubuntu
[03:37] <Hentai> I think by inserting a card in the wrong way which bent pins
[03:37] <mindamp> :-)
[03:37] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: let me direct you once more to the man
[03:37] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: open a terminal and type "man tar"
[03:37] <Hentai> no wonder my wifi card didn't work
[03:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[03:37] <nalioth> Hentai: with a hammer?
[03:37] <Velcan> yes and my disk was full on my ubuntu box thanks
[03:37] <Hentai> err no
[03:37] <learn25> help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?
[03:38] <thr1ce> ChurcH_of_FoamY, check out the tar options man...like jxvf for example -_-
[03:38] <Velcan> if you dont like my chat ignore me or go away
[03:38] <Hentai> I bent the pins with a pc card inserted incorrectly
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[03:38] <mindamp-away> learn25 RTFM
[03:38] <holycow> mindamp-away, no worries, welcome to ubuntu
[03:38] <learn25> what's RTFM?
[03:38] <mindamp-away> thats all i can take
[03:38] <mindamp-away> peace out
[03:38] <keyshawn> @ mindamp
[03:38] <Velcan> learn25:  It's a mean way of saying seek documentation
[03:39] <keyshawn> thr1ce, nice.
[03:39] <nalioth> learn25: you are aptly named, it means "read the fine manual"
[03:39] <learn25> ok
[03:40] <DekaPink> Damn. o.O I in my stupidity have screwed up xorg.conf with the ATI proprietary driver. --;
[03:40] <virgule> its not really 'fine'.. but close enough
[03:40] <thr1ce> DekaPink, run fglrxconfig and make a new one
[03:40] <phzi> DekaPink: mhmh
[03:40] <Velcan> DekaPink:  did you copy it first?
[03:40] <phzi> I bought an NVidia card
[03:40] <nalioth> virgule: its 'fine' enough for this family channel, lol
[03:40] <phzi> just so I would have better driver support
[03:40] <phzi> it's not even as nice as my radeon
[03:40] <virgule> >_<
[03:40] <phzi> but I needed my dual monitors
[03:41] <DekaPink> Velcan: Apparently I'm not that bright.
[03:41] <Velcan> DekaPink:   Doh! :D ... did what thr1ce say fix it?
[03:42] <sizzam> whats up everyone
[03:42] <DekaPink> Velcan: That's how I messed it in the first place... I don't know what to do with it. Heh... I should have just left that crap alone while I was ahead.
[03:43] <Velcan> er actually
[03:43] <Velcan> it should have backit it up when you saved ...
[03:43] <thr1ce> DekaPink, you have to change your xorg.conf to use the driver
[03:43] <Velcan> look for .xorg.conf
[03:44] <phzi> DekaPink: your running ubuntu right?
[03:44] <DekaPink> phzi: Yes.
[03:44] <phzi> there's a command to automatically reconfigure it
[03:44] <phzi> give me a minute to remember
[03:44] <CompShrink> ok, i have a stupd and i'm sure basic question
[03:44] <thr1ce> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[03:44] <thr1ce> or something
[03:44] <CompShrink> *stupid
[03:44] <phzi> that's the one
[03:44] <nalioth> DekaPink: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <Velcan> philips:  is it the command thr1ce was saying
[03:44] <sizzam> im having trouble finding gstreamer-mad in apt-get
[03:44] <phzi> DekaPink: do that
[03:44] <jessejackson> hi
[03:44] <DekaPink> Thank you. :3
[03:44] <thr1ce> xserver-xorg*
[03:44] <thr1ce> thanks nalioth
[03:44] <phzi> follow the directions (just select defaults for pretty much everythig)
[03:45] <nalioth> sizzam: have all your repos enabled?
[03:45] <sizzam> nalioth:  i think so, and removed us.
[03:45] <CompShrink> Ok, I want to change this:  00:18:20:11 --> 00:18:23:10  into:  00:18:20,11 --> 00:18:23,10  several hundred times in a file
[03:45] <nalioth> sizzam: then search for "gstreamer" and see what returns
[03:45] <CompShrink> a plaintext file
[03:46] <sizzam> nalioth:  i get a ton of stuff, but nothing with 'mad',  im trying to get mp3 to work with rhythmbox
[03:46] <phzi> CompShrink: just one file?
[03:46] <Danar> sizzam, enable multiverse
[03:46] <nalioth> sizzam: i know what you are after, hang on aminute
[03:46] <CompShrink> every 4th line is a time stamp, which some program apparently put into the wrong format
[03:46] <CompShrink> phzi, yes, 1 file
[03:47] <nalioth> sizzam: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[03:47] <CompShrink> with 700 timestamps
[03:47] <Danar> sizzam, synaptic > settings > repositories > add > check all. reload. install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:47] <sizzam> thanks nalioth and danar
[03:47] <DekaPink> That did the trick, all. Thank you. :D
[03:47] <SudoPus> Need ifconfig syntax to specify ip/subnet/gateway?
[03:48] <nalioth> Danar: if he doesnt have the repos in his sources.list, your method won't work
[03:48] <regeya> gentoo has one major problem:  I have nothing to fix, nothing to tweak at this moment.  I might have to actually clean my desk, or something.
[03:48] <Danar> nalioth, that would only happen if he removed them
[03:48] <regeya> oops
[03:48] <CompShrink> either directly editing it, or there a way to make gedit think i'm hitting ctrl-f , ctrl-f, ctrl-r  several hundred times?
[03:48] <regeya> s/gentoo/ubuntu/
[03:48] <Danar> nalioth, i'm on the livecd and it works for me
[03:49] <DekaPink> I love my Ubuntu. :3
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth is there something wrong with the syntax of this command : sudo apt-get -f   ?
[03:49] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, you are missing a command
[03:49] <regeya> wait...I could tweak for better multimedia performance...or something.
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth ok what might i be missing can you give an example?
[03:50] <Danar> regeya, or you could learn something... or contribute something... or... ;p
[03:50] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you are trying to fix the whole enchilada, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok i see where i went wrong ^_^ thanx man
[03:50] <regeya> Danar: if you're annoyed by my elated banter, there's always /ignore.
[03:51] <Danar> regeya, not annoyed.
[03:51] <regeya> Danar:  Sorry for being pleased with how well Ubuntu is put together. ;-)
[03:51] <SudoPus> Ok folks...what file do I edit to be read to setup my nic? I know resolv.conf controls the nameserver(s) how about the actual settings stored for the nic?
[03:51] <Danar> regeya, _not_ annoyed.
[03:51] <Danar> notice the ";p"
[03:52] <regeya> Danar:  Heh, sorry.  Just comparing the current experience to the last few systems I had used.  Very little time being spent on learning how things work merely to make things work. :-)  FYI, though, I've been learning about Ruby, which will label me a heretic in Ubuntu circles *runs*
[03:52] <Go_pLastic> anyone know what codecs i need to open .avi and .mpg files?
[03:53] <cmatheson> is there any way to resize an ntfs partition? (i want to dual boot my parents computer... but it looks like parted is unable to do this)
[03:53] <regeya> Go_pLastic, as far as .avi goes, it depends on what the avi's are that you're playing. avi is a container format. :-)
[03:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm it seems to be checking for this thing called pearl how to get?
[03:53] <nalioth> Go_pLastic: w32codecs for avi and windows stuff
[03:53] <Chrischan> hi there
[03:53] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: its perl, and you should have it
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> according to this it's missing some sorta modual
[03:54] <Chrischan> is there any free software for creating and mixing music like a good synthesizer, beatmachine and editor?!
[03:54] <Danar> regeya, lol
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't know what it is cause it dosen't specifiy
[03:54] <regeya> Go_pLastic, just personal preference, but I'd start by installing totem-xine, but just 'coz I have better luck with windows formats (especially wmv) with xine
[03:54] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well, find out "some sort of module" and install it with synaptic
[03:54] <Danar> what are /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1 & /dev/mapper/casper-cow ?
[03:55] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it specifys, read the error msg
[03:55] <regeya> gstreamer-ffmpeg doesn't seem to like variable framerate in wmv, at least not yet
[03:55] <Danar> i've only seen them in ubuntu, and gparted says:
[03:55] <Danar> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1
[03:55] <Danar> Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk label.
[03:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it dosen't seriously it just says perl modual requierd for inltool
[03:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and thats it
[03:56] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so search synaptic for "perl" and see if you are missgin some
[03:56] <Danar> anyone?
[03:56] <Danar> something to do with the fact that i'm on the livecd maybe?
[03:56] <ptlo> Chrischan, there was at one time a roland beat machine emulator program (reborn), but it was put away after a legal threat by roland because it exactly copied look&feel of the beatmachine...but there are still copies lingering in the net so you might be able to find it. also, there's soundtracker, mod tracker similar to fasttracker
[03:57] <Chrischan> ptlo, thanks so far
[03:58] <ptlo> Chrischan, for wave editing, look at audacity
[03:58] <blmartin771> hello
[03:58] <Danar> the first is 2Gb ext2, the second is 1Gb unallocated
[03:58] <blmartin771> just in on a fresh first time ubuntu install
[03:58] <Chrischan> ptlo, yep, but what i meant is compositing, but i guess its useful for that too, right?
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> is there any for for me to specifiy refresh rates for certain resolutions in X?
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> I want to force 1024x768 to be 100
[03:59] <thr1ce> ColonelKernel, set it in xorg.conf
[03:59] <nalioth> blmartin771: welcome
[04:00] <{J}tatiana> ubuntu forums slow or dead?
[04:00] <ptlo> Chrischan, dunno...a quick search turns out rosegarden: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[04:00] <sizzam> tatiana:  slow for me
[04:00] <blmartin771> thanks
[04:00] <ateves> can i get nautilus` listview with more than 1 column?
[04:01] <blmartin771> impressed so far
[04:01] <Danar> anyone have any idea why gparted would say it's unable to read the contents of the filesystems?
[04:01] <Chrischan> ptlo, sure thanks, ill better search the web more before asking here ;)
[04:01] <supernix> How do you handle spam in Kmail ?
[04:01] <Danar> there's a corrupt fat32 fs it's not bugging me about, but there's an ext2 and ext3 that are fine that it says it can't read
[04:02] <supernix> I have been trying to filters but it seems to be missing many things that have already been classified as spam by my host who uses spamassasin
[04:02] <ptlo> Chrischan, np, it's ok ;-)
[04:02] <bimberi> Hi all, What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions? (I did ask earlier but got called away and any answer has scrolled off)
[04:02] <ironmc> I am looking for a video player,  I installed MPlayer but it locks up on me,  Totem seems very limited
[04:02] <Danar> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdb4
[04:03] <thr1ce> bimberi, just set it up by hand
[04:03] <Danar> ironmc, xine
[04:03] <nalioths_dog> bimberi: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[04:03] <Danar> ironmc, or vlc. i prefer xine
[04:03] <bimberi> nalioths_dog: Many thanks
[04:03] <ironmc> Danar  Thanks I'll try that
[04:03] <Danar> can anyone help me with partitions?
[04:04] <bimberi> thr1ce: I know - but I thought I would try the script.
[04:04] <valtaric> do any of you people know a progrm that run windows based games better then Cedega?
[04:04] <crouton> howdy folks
[04:04] <nalioth> thr1ce: yes, seveas has made it easy
[04:04] <nalioth> valtaric: sure, Windows
[04:04] <thr1ce> nalioth, neat :)
[04:04] <thr1ce> i've always found it easier
[04:04] <valtaric> lol... something that rund on ubuntu.
[04:04] <thr1ce> nope; cedega is it
[04:04] <nalioth> valtaric: have you seen qemu?
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> thr1ce, I seem to be having problems finding directions on how to do this online - best ive found is to be able to specify a single refresh rate for all resolutions but thats no better.
[04:05] <valtaric> ok than, if you have it have you encountered any problems running anything after the initcial install?
[04:05] <Danar> valtaric, cedega or maybe a vm... having a prob?
[04:05] <Chrischan> ptlo, did you mean freebirth probably?
[04:05] <{J}tatiana> are the ubuntu forums slow or dead?
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> Im looking for 1600x1200@75 1280x1024@85 1024x768@100 800x600@144 640x480@150
[04:05] <valtaric> i installed it last night and i have been trying to get it to work but when ever i try to open a program nothing happens.
[04:05] <Velcan> I was finally able to nuke my windows cd today that i got WoW working with cedega :)
[04:06] <crouton> anybody know how to 'save' an ext3 partition that isn't mountable?
[04:06] <Chrischan> ptlo, oh funny website ... http://www.bitmechanic.com/projects/freebirth/
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> :(( what kind of anus lists his domain linuxsucks.org
[04:06] <Danar> crouton, fsck ?
[04:06] <phzi> crouton: dd
[04:06] <nalioth> valtaric: i dont use qemu, just know that it offers virtualization in almost real-time
[04:06] <ptlo> Chrischan, yeah, it seems like it was defaced
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> thats rotten, its free
[04:06] <crouton> Danar: Tried that.
[04:06] <phzi> crouton: dd to an image, using --sync
[04:06] <crouton> phzi: How so?
[04:06] <crouton> phzi: ah. i can try that.
[04:06] <Danar> valtaric, run it from the commandline?
[04:07] <thr1ce> i dont' think qemu will use vid drivers though...it's still emulation
[04:07] <phzi> i'd suggest google, I can't explain the full function of dd ery well
[04:07] <valtaric> qemu? not sur what you mean i am new to ubuntu nad just learning.
[04:07] <ptlo> Chrischan, no, i didn't find freebirth...the project name was 'reborn'
[04:07] <crouton> phzi: Actually, i can't.. it's most of an 80gb disk.
[04:07] <supernix> How do you run that script at boot time to make it work?
[04:07] <supernix> I have been having trouble getting my SATA drive to mount at boot time
[04:07] <phzi> crouton: you can save it gzipped, otherwise, I have no suggestions
[04:07] <nalioth> thr1ce: qemu is a program the shares the processor with 2 OS simultaneously
[04:07] <thr1ce> nalioth, yes
[04:08] <nalioth> thr1ce: actually i think its a kernel module
[04:08] <nalioth> thr1ce: i'm confuse at your mention of video drivers
[04:08] <supernix> Hi everyone
[04:08] <crouton> phzi: thanks for the ideas.
[04:08] <thr1ce> nalioth, i was under the impression qemu is an emulator, similar to vmware
[04:08] <ptlo> Chrischan, reborn looks like this: http://161.53.178.20/~senko/reborn.png
[04:09] <phzi> crouton: hope it might help
[04:09] <crouton> Any special fsck commands for ext3?
[04:09] <nalioth> thr1ce: no, it is a kernel patch that gives every other cycle to whichever OS, i believe
[04:09] <Chrischan> ptlo, i remember quite some time ago that i used this software once
[04:09] <thr1ce> nalioth, hm...interesting; sorry then if I was incorrect =\
[04:09] <Danar> can someone please help me with a partition/gparted problem?
[04:09] <Hentai> nailoth they say its a enulator
[04:09] <nalioth> thr1ce: better than an emulator
[04:09] <crouton> indeed
[04:10] <Velcan> Anyone ever messed around with dvd ripping via mencoder?
[04:10] <thr1ce> nalioth, yes, but it won't use the the drivers will it?
[04:10] <ptlo> Chrischan, it's windows equivalent is called rebirth
[04:10] <macGuy> hey
[04:10] <nalioth> thr1ce: both OS' will use their own drivers
[04:10] <Hentai> QEMU is an emulator. It means that it converts each target CPU instruction into host instructions. Therefore, it emulates any supported target processor on any supported host processor.
[04:10] <Hentai> The QEMU accelerator adds a virtualization layer to QEMU
[04:11] <Hentai> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/faq.html
[04:11] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:11] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:11] <macGuy> I have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed
[04:11] <ptlo> Chrischan, anyways, as i said the original author removed the program from its page, but you can google for: reborn tar.gz and you'll find it prepackaged; it just has gtk+ dependancies
[04:11] <ColonelKernel> ok I turned of EDID frequencies but I still cant break the 85hz barrier
[04:12] <biovore> anyone know of a traffic counter service?
[04:12] <macGuy> is there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work
[04:12] <PlutoPrime> anyone knows a good "GUI" program for Mass renaming files of any type?
[04:12] <Chrischan> ptlo, thanks a lot
[04:12] <adwait> hey ppl
[04:12] <ptlo> Chrischan, np
[04:12] <PlutoPrime> I don't want to write a bash script for that
[04:12] <biovore> PlutoPrime
[04:12] <biovore> PlutoPrime:bash is good at that kind of stuff.. gui suck at it..
[04:12] <thr1ce> ColonelKernel, you could always make a new one with xorgconfig
[04:12] <adwait> can someone tell me if there is anyway to restart a router connected to the computer?
[04:12] <Flightman> i've got an Orinoco Chipset PCMCIA wireless card, and i don't quite know where to begin to add the drivers to my kernel
[04:12] <thr1ce> hit the reset button on the router?
[04:13] <macGuy> I have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed. is there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work. 2wire only supports windows, but i read in the forums about ndiswrapper. Is this what i should use?
[04:13] <Hentai> whats a 2wire pc port?
[04:13] <nalioth> thr1ce: i'm looking forward to gettin my hands on a x86 compatible box, so i can test qemu
[04:13] <Flightman> adwait: unplug/replug...the reset button will wipe all your settings
[04:13] <PlutoPrime> it's true.. but I was hoping for a nice easy to use GUI
[04:13] <macGuy> its a homepna adapter
[04:13] <Hentai> macGuy whats a 2 wire pc port?
[04:13] <thr1ce> nalioth, you on ppc now?
[04:13] <Hentai> oh
[04:13] <ColonelKernel> thr1ce, I dont think that would help, thats what set up the refresh rates I have now anyways
[04:13] <Hentai> okk
[04:13] <adwait> thr1ce: no....i meant with software, automatically.......problem is i get free downloads betwen 12-8,  i need to disconnect and reconnect to the net for tht
[04:13] <macGuy> it goes  usb to adapter to phon leine
[04:13] <macGuy> phone line*
[04:14] <adwait> i dont wanna be up till 12 just to reconnect.....so is there a way to do this by software
[04:14] <adwait> ?
[04:14] <nalioth> thr1ce: i've been on PPC for over 3 years
[04:14] <thr1ce> adwait, hm...i'm not good with cron, but pretty sure you could set it up to bring eth down and back up at a given time
[04:14] <Chrischan> ptlo, reborn-i386-1_0.tar.gz or is the a newer version?
[04:14] <Flightman> adwait, usually there's an option in the router's web interface to reset it...a small script with a time to go off will prolly do the job
[04:15] <Danar> anyone? i really need help here
[04:15] <Danar> gparted says it can't read the file systems, so it can't do stuff..
[04:15] <{J}tatiana> Danar
[04:15] <{J}tatiana> pm me the prob
[04:15] <kbrooks> i need to remove all the deps of kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <adwait> thr1ce: ifup wont restart  the router......the adsl link stays
[04:15] <Flightman> how do i go about adding a wireless card module to my kernel?
[04:16] <kbrooks> how do i do so
[04:16] <nalioth> Danar: shut down parted and see what cfdisk says
[04:16] <adwait> Flightman: there is an option in the web interface to restart it, but how do i activate that automatically?
[04:16] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:16] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:16] <Danar> and qtparted says Used Space: N/A
[04:16] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: dpkg, awk, and apt-cache
[04:16] <Flightman> adwait, you can probably write a small script that will run at a given time to go into your router's web interface and hit the reset button...
[04:17] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, show me please
[04:17] <thr1ce> kbrooks, google is your friend
[04:17] <Flightman> adwait, a simpler and really stupid way of fixing it would be to get a lamp timer from the hardware store, and set the on/off points really close together so it only powers the router down for a second ;)
[04:17] <adwait> flightman: threre is a button in there which restarts it, how do u click a button with software..
[04:18] <{J}tatiana> Danar if you're still stuck just pm me an i'll see what i can recommend.
[04:18] <adwait> Flightman: hmm...i would do that, if its entirely impossible to work only with software
[04:18] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: use apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop to get a list of packages. Use awk to parse the package entries. Use dpkg (well, aptitude is probably easier) to remove/purge those entries generated by awk's parsing.
[04:18] <Danar> nalioth, they don't show in cfdisk. i tried qtparted and it said they weren't cleanly unmounted
[04:18] <nalioth> Danar: perhaps a restart?
[04:18] <nalioth> Danar: or an fsck?
[04:18] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, easy enough
[04:19] <Danar> nalioth, fsck didn't work :/
[04:19] <thr1ce> kbrooks, oh, thought you wanted a link to kubuntu live lol...sorry
[04:19] <Flightman> adwait, the first method i described involves looking at the webpage code the router's web interface uses, and writing your own code to call that function at a given time...though it's simple if you can write code well (i can't, not the right code anyways) it's a serious endeavor if you're not willing to learn...
[04:19] <nalioth> Danar: have you tried chrooting to the HD-based *nix?
[04:19] <Danar> brb. restarting
[04:19] <Danar> nalioth, uh, no
[04:20] <Danar> nalioth, can't now. ubuntu doesn't see those partitions anymore
[04:20] <adwait> Flightman: naah its ok.........i can learn :), i just looked at the code and its simple javascript.......ill take some time to completely read and understand it and then try writing the codr
[04:20] <nalioth> Danar: well then a restart will "cleanse the palate" as well as it will
[04:20] <adwait> but another thing..the javascript is embedded in the webpage, its not a separate js file......so how do i call the function"
[04:20] <Danar> brb
[04:20] <adwait> ?
[04:21] <Flightman> adwait, cool...once you've got it written, set it up as a cronjob in linux to go off at a certain time and you should be all set
[04:21] <Flightman> adwait, although, depending on how you value your time, the timer might be easier ;)
[04:21] <adwait> Flightman: i am a student, on vacations....how do u think i value my time ;)
[04:21] <Sok> i seriously need help
[04:21] <Sok> lol
[04:21] <joecool> Sok: :)
[04:22] <crouton> phzi: "dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/sda1/backup.file" look about right? Or should I pipe it to tar?
[04:22] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, do i set the selections?
[04:22] <Sok> how do i configure my dsl modem to ubuntu...im a newbie to
[04:22] <Sok> lol
[04:22] <kbrooks> and install those selected?
[04:23] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: I thought you wanted to remove them.
[04:23] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, i want to...
[04:23] <Flightman> adwait, as someone in a similar position, it depends...you might wanna spend it coding, or you might wanna spend it gallavanting around outside ;)
[04:23] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: so why would you set any selections?
[04:23] <Sok> how do i set up a pppoe connection for my dsl modem?
[04:23] <Flightman> adwait, i'm stuck in ohio for the summer, so i'm spending it thinking/coding...though i'd rather be chasing girls
[04:23] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, ok
[04:24] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: think & code first, chase girls when you retire
[04:24] <sizzam> whats the easiest way to start a second console automatically at boot time so that i can use ctrl+alt+f7 an f8 to switch between them?
[04:24] <adwait> Flightman: hehe.......naah, well i go out with friends in the afternoons/evening and come back at night ......but i have the monrings to myself
[04:24] <thr1ce> adwait, get a job!
[04:25] <kubuntu-live> sizzam: F1-F6 are already populated with gettys
[04:25] <kbrooks> whoa
[04:25] <Sok> lol
[04:25] <Hikaru79> O_O;
[04:25] <crouton> nice netsplit
[04:25] <joecool> NETSPLIT!!! WE ALL GONNA DIE!!
[04:25] <youngcoder> wtf
[04:25] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, way to go
[04:25] <adwait> wtf
[04:25] <adwait> ?
[04:25] <joecool> actually.. lilo just needs more money
[04:25] <dutch> relax !
[04:25] <Hikaru79> You broke the channel
[04:25] <Sok> so can anyone help me?
[04:25] <joecool> :P
[04:25] <kbrooks> lol
[04:25] <Flightman> heh
[04:25] <adwait> thr1ce: hmm..not very common around here for teenagers to get jobs.....if ur parents earn, ur set :)
[04:25] <Hikaru79> Good thing I fixed it
[04:25] <Hikaru79> You got lucky this time, youngcoder ;)
[04:25] <youngcoder> ?
[04:25] <sizzam> kubuntu-live:  im looking for something like that which will already have x started for my wife (bigger noob than me)
[04:25] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, yea...it's hard to resist man, they've got the realultimatepower...
[04:26] <holycow> any system builder types around? if you take the heat sink off the cpu and wish to remount it, is it mandatory that you need to replace the grey gooey stuff usually present in heatsinks?  (when ytou take a heatsink off the goo is usually missing/displaced) ?
[04:26] <joecool> holycow: not really
[04:26] <joecool> holycow: unless you don't have like any left
[04:26] <thr1ce> yes it is
[04:26] <kubuntu-live> thermal paste is _highly_ recommended
[04:26] <thr1ce> thermal paste is important
[04:26] <sizzam> especially on an amd
[04:26] <valtaric> i need some help getting Cedega to work on my Ubuntu system
[04:26] <holycow> it is? this is an amd cpu yes
[04:27] <holycow> okay
[04:27] <sizzam> they run hot
[04:27] <Flightman> holycow, YES...if you value your processor and want to be 100% sure that it'll survive, clean both the processor and heatsink with rubbing alcohol and polish to a shine...then find some more thermal paste to put on it before reinstalling
[04:27] <holycow> ah!
[04:27] <holycow> okay thanks
[04:27] <kubuntu-live> unless, of course, you don't mind your cpu overheating. Who needs a properly-cooled cpu anyhow?!
[04:27] <Flightman> haha
[04:27] <youngcoder> Hikaru79, what u mean?
[04:27] <Flightman> i love it when MY system locks up...
[04:27] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, I was joking, just joking ^ ^;
[04:27] <adwait> im gonna go ppl.......
[04:27] <holycow> just checking if metal to metal contact was enough
[04:27] <adwait> bbye and thx Flightman
[04:27] <ale_> Hello, do I need LVM to run a desktop?
[04:27] <Flightman> adwait, no probs man, good luck
[04:27] <ColonelKernel> can anyone please help me force higher refresh rates? I used gtf to generate modelines but they dont seem to be working.
[04:27] <youngcoder> oh i had to scroll up lmao
[04:27] <adwait> ale_: no......LVM = a new kind of partiotioning
[04:27] <holycow> appearently, i need to study up on my laws of thermodynamics
[04:27] <TincH> i need help getting sound
[04:27] <adwait> !LVM
[04:27] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, adwait
[04:27] <kubuntu-live> ale_: it's not required, no
[04:28] <holycow> thanks dudes
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> http://pastebin.com/310970
[04:28] <kubuntu-live> TincH: shoot
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> thats my xorg.conf
[04:28] <youngcoder> what caused all that?
[04:28] <ale_> adwait, kubuntu-live: thanks!
[04:28] <adwait> np
[04:28] <Flightman> so, can anyone help me solve my wireless PC Card woes!? Orinoco chipset, not seen by my fresh install of ubuntu, how do i compile a kernel module for it?
[04:28] <kubuntu-live> yw
[04:28] <valtaric> i need help getting cedega to run properly.
[04:28] <TincH> ok a have a crystal cx4235
[04:28] <TincH> i been toul to run alsaconf
[04:29] <TincH> but i can find it
[04:29] <kubuntu-live> TincH: Ubuntu does not ship with alsaconf. Try: sudo modprobe snd_cs4235
[04:29] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, it's called a netsplit, and it happens when one of the servers in an IRC network is disconnected from the rest. All the people on that server are literally "split" from the main network
[04:29] <valtaric> cna anyone help me?
[04:29] <joecool> so.. anyone know howto  set up a friggin pppoe connection here?
[04:29] <joecool> anyone? anyone at all?
[04:30] <ColonelKernel> no luck yet
[04:30] <joecool> would seem like a pretty basic thing.. i'd expect around 15%-20% of you would have to do it
[04:30] <youngcoder> Hikaru79, thanks i have enver een tha before :)
[04:30] <TincH>  modprobe snd_cs4235
[04:30] <TincH> i get this
[04:30] <TincH> sory
[04:30] <TincH> FATAL: Module snd_cs4235 not found.
[04:30] <kubuntu-live> TincH: please use the pastebin noted in the topic
[04:30] <joecool> hmm.. i've found a channel more annoying then #gentoo.. awesome!
[04:31] <kubuntu-live> joecool: did you try searching the Ubuntu wiki, forum, and mailing list archives?
[04:31] <valtaric> can anyone help me with
[04:31] <TincH> sory
[04:31] <valtaric> Cedega??
[04:31] <TincH> i says it cant find the module
[04:31] <kubuntu-live> valtaric: there's a nice channel on this network devoted to it: #cedega
[04:31] <valtaric> thakns
[04:32] <joecool> kubuntu-live: not really.. then again i'm a gentoo user.. got a friend settin up an ubuntu install and I really can't help him, but I AM good at getting people's attention
[04:32] <KarlosII> joecool, if you think ubuntu or gentoo is annoying which I consider them friendly, then you need to visit #debian
[04:32] <joecool> kubuntu-live: he has searched the forums
[04:32] <Moppin> valtaric, Have you seen this page? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:32] <joecool> KarlosII: oh god yeah.. #debian are all elitist bastards in there.. the good thing is you get quick responses as well as insults
[04:32] <joecool> KarlosII: back in the day my channel was a like a flooding base for #debian :)
[04:33] <kubuntu-live> TincH: sorry, try snd_cs4232 or snd_cs4236
[04:33] <KarlosII> heh
[04:33] <TincH> a ok
[04:33] <kubuntu-live> TincH: you probably want the latter (snd_cs4236)
[04:33] <lxuser_> onedistro to rule them all
[04:33] <joecool> KarlosII: yeah.. but you guys have the ricer sort of a craze that gentoo has.. so thats why its not so great in here..
[04:33] <TincH> yes i did that
[04:33] <TincH> what now?
[04:34] <kubuntu-live> TincH: did it return to a prompt immediately without error?
[04:34] <ubuntuist> why arent there any more naked persons in the new version ?
[04:34] <TincH> yes
[04:35] <kubuntu-live> TincH: ok, now please paste the output from amixer onto the topic's pastebin
[04:35] <kubuntu-live> ubuntuist: mmkay, got an actual relevant, on-topic question? :)
[04:36] <ubuntuist> i too feel naked wareing linux :-)
[04:37] <nalioth> kubuntu-live: isnt ubuntu-calendare a revelent subject?
[04:37] <jtan325> does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?
[04:37] <kubuntu-live> nalioth: sure, it can be. I'm just a bit primed from the earlier spamming.
[04:38] <nalioth> kubuntu-live: o k
[04:38] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, think you might be able to help me out configuring my wireless card?
[04:38] <fatfreepork> whats the first step to setting up a webserver?
[04:38] <fatfreepork> after getting php, apache, and mysql
[04:38] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: I can try, but wifi isn't really my cup of tea. Have you followed the general hints regarding your wifi chipset?
[04:39] <ubuntuist> theres no weekly distrowatch page has of yet !
[04:39] <ubuntuist> mabey hes on holidays
[04:40] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, supposedly my chipset's been part of the kernel since 2.4, i just dunno how to make the kernel see the card
[04:40] <crouton> argh
[04:40] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: which chipset or card?
[04:41] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, it's a 2Wire 802.11b pcmcia card, but it's an orinoco chipset...so it should be easy...SHOULD
[04:42] <ubuntuist> _Burrito_, is here
[04:42] <zenlunatic> do drivers have man pages?
[04:42] <_Burrito_> hi
[04:42] <kubuntu-live> zenlunatic: generally no, but they have documentation (READMEs, etc.)
[04:42] <_Burrito_> does anybody use the xfce desktop?
[04:43] <kubuntu-live> I use it infrequently these days due to lack of hardware.
[04:43] <kubuntu-live> it's quite slick, though
[04:43] <qt2> anyone know much about vnc?
[04:43] <ubuntuist> dont you think ubuntu ratings on distrowatch are from the same person clicking over and over again ?
[04:44] <_Burrito_> i close the taskbar,  and i dont know whath to do about it
[04:44] <_Burrito_> can anybody help out?
[04:45] <kubuntu-live> _Burrito_: along the bottom of the screen? You can open a terminal and execute xfdesktop
[04:46] <youngcoder> hmm
[04:46] <ubuntuist> nice
[04:46] <youngcoder> thats getting annoying
[04:46] <Computer__Guru> what is?
[04:46] <ubuntuist> i think its the cops
[04:46] <kubuntu-live> just set your irc client (you _are_ using irssi-text, correct? :-) to ignore joins and quits
[04:46] <youngcoder> the netsplits
[04:47] <nate__> hey, how do you unzip all the files in a directory?
[04:47] <ubuntuist> theyr cracking up the servers
[04:47] <ubuntuist> with bots
[04:47] <youngcoder> kubuntu-live, what is command to do that>?
[04:47] <kubuntu-live> something like: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done
[04:48] <nate__> thanks
[04:48] <TincH> how do i turn on volumen amixer
[04:48] <kubuntu-live> youngcoder: /help ignore :)
[04:48] <kubuntu-live> TincH: see privmsg
[04:48] <trevor_> thanks TincH
[04:48] <crouton> anyone accomplished in saving an ext3 partition?
[04:48] <trevor_> lost it in the listed cache search
[04:49] <Computer__Guru> by saving you mean what?
[04:49] <crouton> it's not mountable - bad journal.
[04:49] <Computer__Guru> you tried fsck'ing it?
[04:49] <crouton> er, bad superblock
[04:49] <crouton> oh yes.
[04:49] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:49] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:49] <ubuntuist> crouton are you using ubuntu ?
[04:49] <crouton> ubuntuist: yes.
[04:50] <Computer__Guru> i dunno beyond fsck, sorry
[04:50] <crouton> " Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /" is the return from e2fsck
[04:50] <ubuntuist> i use reiserfs
[04:50] <ubuntuist> never gave me any troubles so far
[04:50] <crouton> this is a separate drive, not where ubuntu is installed.
[04:50] <crouton> well, this only happened because the power went out..
[04:51] <ubuntuist> get an ups :-)
[04:51] <crouton> power's gone out 5 times in 2-3 weeks, ups is drained.
[04:51] <phzi> crouton:
[04:51] <ubuntuist> LOL
[04:51] <phzi> how long ago was the filesystem created?
[04:51] <ubuntuist> crouton, is full of it
[04:52] <crouton> phzi: today
[04:52] <joecool> ubuntu supports .deb right?
[04:52] <trevor_> hmm no luck with unrar-nonfree
[04:52] <phzi> oh really? did you write down the backup superblock nodes?
[04:52] <phzi> or didn't bother?
[04:52] <crouton> phzi: I didn't, but supposedly dumpe2fs can show information.
[04:52] <phzi> k
[04:52] <phzi> you used defaults right?
[04:52] <crouton> yes.
[04:52] <joecool> i can't be lagging this bad.. its a simple friggin question
[04:53] <joecool> ubuntu supports .deb right? (yes/no?)
[04:53] <crouton> joecool: yes, dpkg.
[04:53] <kubuntu-live> joecool: it's based on Debian, so yes.
[04:53] <phzi> you can do it wit DD
[04:53] <Computer__Guru> trevor: rar/unrar are int he multiverse
[04:53] <joecool> i figured, thanks
[04:53] <phzi> there is no other way
[04:53] <phzi> http://edseek.com/archives/2004/02/25/ext3-filesystem-bad-superblock-recovery/
[04:53] <youngcoder> i heard that Ubuntu is soon to release a version with support for file/folder encryption.. anyone heard about this or know about it?
[04:53] <crouton> phzi: Yeah, I'm tryin to find a filesystem to copy the file to.
[04:53] <phzi> otherwise, can you get the superblock locations?
[04:54] <phzi> you said something about that
[04:54] <crouton> yeah, lemme read the output
[04:54] <jtan325> does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?
[04:54] <phzi> /sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda1
[04:54] <cmatheson> jtan325: i use aterm
[04:55] <jtan325> cmatheson, is it 1.0.0?
[04:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh, no it's just the standard ubuntu version (who would have thought it was only at .4...)
[04:55] <jtan325> hmmm yeah
[04:55] <phzi> crouton: /sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda1
[04:55] <jtan325> i just compiled and installed 1.0.0
[04:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: what's up w/ 1.0?
[04:55] <jtan325> trying to get the borderless option to work
[04:55] <jtan325> but it doesn't seem to work
[04:55] <crouton> phzi: Yeah, I'm trying, all the backup superblocks are coming up with the same ' Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /' error.
[04:55] <jtan325> and when i look at the man pages
[04:56] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh... i don't really seem to have a border on openbox (but that's not due to aterm)
[04:56] <youngcoder> anyone know of an add-on package that will encrypt folders?
[04:56] <NeoGeo64> help i just installed the i686 kernel and no longer need to use the i386 one.  how do i get rid of it and remove it from grub
[04:56] <jtan325> cmatheson, i am using openbox too
[04:56] <jtan325> awesome
[04:56] <jtan325> cmatheson, so what i mean by border is the decor
[04:56] <jtan325> is that something i specify in rc.xml or something?
[04:57] <cmatheson> jtan325: ooooh
[04:57] <jtan325> i would like to turn off the decor by default for aterm
[04:57] <NeoGeo64> does anyone know
[04:57] <cmatheson> jtan325: hmmm, it seems like there probably is a way... there was a blackbox tool that used to work w/ openbox that would configure these kinds of things, but it may not work anymore since ob3 is no longer based on the bb code
[04:57] <jtan325> NeoGeo64, you could start browsing /boot/grub
[04:58] <jtan325> yeah
[04:58] <NeoGeo64> ok
[04:58] <jtan325> cmatheson, so your aterms always have decor?
[04:58] <regeya> nautilus needs something equivalent to finder's folder actions.
[04:58] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, sorry, i thought your were just talking about how in metacity there is an ugly like 3-pixel border going around everything (whereas in ob there's not anything but the resize-bar/title-bar)
[04:58] <regeya> I wish I were kidding.
[04:59] <jtan325> hmmm yeah
[04:59] <cmatheson> jtan325: there's a windowmanager called ratpoison (it's anti-mouse) that doesn't have any kind of window decorations
[04:59] <crouton> phzi: all the backup superblocks have the same error.
[05:00] <jtan325> cmatheson, i've heardof that... not looking to go that exterme lol
[05:00] <trevor_> Computer__Guru: Whats multiverse?
[05:00] <Computer__Guru> tomorrow sometime ill be watching hhgttg
[05:00] <Computer__Guru> trevor_: lemme get the sources you need to add
[05:00] <trevor_> Oh ok :)
[05:00] <cmatheson> jtan325: hehe
[05:01] <benxor> can someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?
[05:01] <trevor_> coming from gentoo, this is odd...
[05:01] <cmatheson> trevor_: it's the non-free crap (free as in speech)
[05:01] <jtan325> cmatheson, "-bl number  This option specifies that aterm should askwindow manager to not have a border around terms window; resource borderLess"
[05:01] <trevor_> everything just works by default
[05:01] <dikadika> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu, it gets to the portion where it attempts to install the kernel and then stops (79 percent when installing the base system) and after about 40 mins gives an error message... anyone seen this before?
[05:01] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh good call... it doesn't work though?
[05:01] <jtan325> cmatheson, well i am trying all sorts of numbers
[05:01] <jtan325> doesn't seem to wrok
[05:01] <jtan325> work
[05:01] <dikadika> i dont have the error msg written down, but i'm waiting for it to throw the error again
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> add those to sources.list, and sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <trevor_> ok
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> then sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[05:02] <cmatheson> jtan325: try the cvs version of openbox (i loaded it on my computer because i'm trying to write some "bling bling" patches and other stuff for ob... anyway it seems a lot radder~pango font rendering (so multi-lingual support is finally avaliable)and some other good stuff
[05:02] <cmatheson> jtan325: could be a bug w/ ob... try another windowmanager to test it first maybe?
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> speaking of bling bling
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> go rate my desktop
[05:02] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah i was going to switch to fluxbox qucikly, once my bittorrents finished
[05:03] <benxor> can someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?
[05:03] <Computer__Guru> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26283
[05:03] <SudoPus> nalioth: I was told you are running PPC? I have a dual G4..which smp kernel to choose? linux_image_2.6<blah> or just the linux_image_smp?
[05:03] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh ok.  what's fluxbox doing these days?  i liked it back in the day, but the tabs seem less relevant lately (since everything has it natively), and the lack of xft rendering kills me)
[05:03] <valtaric> does anyone know were i can aget a copy of mplayer.deb?
[05:04] <jtan325> cmatheson, i was 100% fluxbox-crazy for the past week
[05:04] <cmatheson> valtaric: it's in multiverse
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: do this
[05:04] <WS> I'm having tons of trouble trying to install a version of ffmpeg that encodes things in PSP format
[05:04] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh rad~what's it doing that ob isn't?
[05:04] <WS> do any of you gurus think you can help me on this?
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: when that is done,
[05:04] <jtan325> cmatheson, well it was primarily because the documentation seemed more extensive, and there were more people using it...  you know, easier to get my foot through the door with a new wm
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:04] <WS> a guy has a page with some debs that he made for ubuntu forums, but they need newer packages than I have etc.
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> oh you'll want to sudo both of those
[05:05] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh yeah, openbox's docs aren't very extensive... the source code is clean but i swear it has no comments... it's the most frustrating thing ever!
[05:05] <jtan325> cmatheson, but then i found the whole "slit" and taskbar somewhat annoying
[05:05] <Ayzax> hey
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, so i switched over a few days ago, using pypanel and gdesklets to put together something quite nice :-)
[05:06] <Computer__Guru> mplayer is in the universe, you just have to build deps for it first :)
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, and the memory consumption is miniscule too!
[05:06] <cmatheson> yay!
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, what do you use "in addition" to openbox?
[05:06] <WS> anyone have ffmpeg experience?
[05:07] <valtaric> ok i got the two of thoes but i don't know how to build a deps...
[05:07] <jtan325> cmatheson, more like, what other programs play well with ob that you use?
[05:07] <cmatheson> jtan325: i'm actually just a big fan of straight up ob... i do use gkrellm for my system monitoring though, and the windowmaker dockapp called 'docker' (it holds all the system-tray mini-icons from gnome/kde)~that pretty much gives me everything i need
[05:07] <TincH> have no sound please help
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> that's how you build the deps
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:07] <cmatheson> jtan325: i have my friend using openbox w/ fbpanel and the 'rox' file manager
[05:08] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:08] <Computer__Guru> and you're done
[05:08] <Ayzax> quit
[05:08] <cmatheson> TincH: you're going to need to be a whole lot more descriptive...
[05:08] <jtan325> cmatheson, i was using docker before i discovered pypanel. how do you manage to keep track of all your windows without a panel?
[05:08] <jtan325> ALT+TAB?
[05:08] <valtaric> it is saying it couldn;t find the package.
[05:08] <valtaric> mplayer 686
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment anything that ends with universe
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: then, save the file and do: sudo apt-get update
[05:09] <jtan325> TincH, read the ubuntu guide, section on "sound"
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> then try them again
[05:09] <jtan325> !ubuntuguide
[05:09] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> hooray for me , i got it
[05:09] <TincH> ok
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> 100hz in games now, life it good
[05:09] <jtan325> well the instructions in ubuntu guide worked for me
[05:11] <valtaric> when i try the /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <valtaric>  it says permission denied
[05:11] <jtan325> valtaric, put a "sudo' in front of the command
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <kubuntu-live> the cs4xxxx sound drivers are a bit wonky
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get update
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> then enjoy mplayer :)
[05:12] <WS> build-dep
[05:12] <WS> is there a way to do that with dpkg?
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> i dont know, that's a good question
[05:12] <WS> http://tube013.org/?p=317 ...if you could look at that for me and and see if you could help me
[05:12] <nalioth_zZz> WS: not to my knowledge
[05:12] <WS> I'd greatly appreciate it
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> if you could enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without installing it, i dont see why you wouldn't be able to apt-get build-dep
[05:12] <WS> I need to install those deb files but having tons of problems
[05:12] <jtan325> cmatheson, so how do you manage your windows? alt+tab?
[05:12] <nalioth_zZz> ws what are you build-depping?
[05:13] <WS> ffmpeg with PSP encoding support
[05:13] <WS> aka faac
[05:13] <nalioth_zZz> WS: and sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-blah doesnt work?
[05:13] <Computer__Guru> is there a way to enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without actually installing it?
[05:14] <Crutonman> Hey there
[05:14] <Computer__Guru> cause if there is, that would solve your problem
[05:14] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, i try to split it up into desktops... one for 'net' one for 'devel' one for 'misc' one for my terminals, etc... that way i only have a few windows on each desktop and switching w/ alt-tab or whatever isn't a big deal.  (plus it's all by functionality so knowing w/ workspace i need isn't hard to remember either)
[05:14] <Crutonman> How does one go about disabling Gnome from using the sound system?
[05:14] <Crutonman> I need to unlock it so Cedega can hand it off to CS: Source
[05:14] <jtan325> cmatheson, wish i could do that
[05:14] <Computer__Guru> cmatheson: I do the same in KDE.. Workspace, Internet, Multimedia, Shells, Messengers, Miscellaneous
[05:14] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you can just run 'esdctl standby' (you may need to install the esd-client package or something like that)
[05:14] <jtan325> cmatheson, i can never get the hang of workspaces
[05:14] <jtan325> oh well
[05:15] <Crutonman> cmatheson, do you use cedega yourself?
[05:15] <cmatheson> jtan325: it's not too bad... just use your mouse wheel to scroll, or ctrl+alt+arrow keys (alternatively i have configured my bindings to use alt+f1=workspace 1 alt+f2=workspace2 etc.)
[05:15] <Computer__Guru> wow i hope i can keep this speed up, if i can hhgttg is gonna be done in time to watch it tonight \:D/
[05:15] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah, i had that going in fluxbox for a bit
[05:16] <jtan325> cmatheson, how do you get programs to start when you login
[05:16] <cmatheson> Crutonman: no... i don't really play games, but it's just esound tying up your /dev/dsp
[05:16] <jtan325> cmatheson, i hacked a workaround to get it to work, because apparently .xsession is NOT the answer
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: just add it to your ~/.xsession (.xinitrc?) and then choose 'system default' from the gdm sessions menu
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: did you make it executable?
[05:17] <ws_> sorry
[05:17] <jtan325> cmatheson, yea...
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: it may be .xinitrc (i have a symlink to .xsession from my .xinitrc file)
[05:17] <ws_> nalioth_zZz ws what are you build-depping?
[05:17] <ws_> WS ffmpeg with PSP encoding support
[05:17] <ws_> WS aka faac
[05:17] <ws_> WS y:P
[05:17] <ws_> WS ;P*
[05:17] <ws_> WS am I still here
[05:17] <ws_> * Disconnected ().
[05:17] <Crutonman> cmatheson: This "esd-client" package does not seem to exist in my resositories, do you know if its under another name? I tried an apt-cache search on esd but found nothing similar to what you said
[05:17] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: is everything going according to plan over there?
[05:17] <jtan325> cmatheson, when i used .xinitrc and started X using "startx" it worked fine
[05:17] <cmatheson> Crutonman: hold on
[05:17] <Computer__Guru> Crutonman: esound
[05:17] <kubuntu-live> Crutonman: esd-clients, not esd-client
[05:18] <kubuntu-live> esound-clients
[05:18] <cmatheson> oh yeah, that's it
[05:18] <jtan325> but hmmm i gotta see whether there was an option for "default" on gdm login.
[05:18] <Computer__Guru> ;)
[05:18] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, otherwise it will just load the openbox wm and ignore your xsession file
[05:19] <Crutonman> That did not seem to fix the problem
[05:19] <Crutonman> It is still telling me that it is in use
[05:19] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah that was exactly what was happening
[05:19] <jtan325> cmatheson, i did a hackerish sorta thing though... you know how you can select "openbox" from gdm login?
[05:19] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah?
[05:20] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you ran 'esdctl standby'?
[05:20] <jtan325> well, i made a script 'startopenbox', put it in /usr/bin, and that's what actually gets executed if you choose the openbox option
[05:20] <jtan325> and the script will check if there is a startup file in ~/.config/openbox
[05:20] <cmatheson> jtan325: oooh, not bad (although stuff you make yourself should probably be put in /usr/local/bin
[05:20] <cmatheson> rad
[05:20] <jtan325> if there is, then execute that script with "exec"
[05:20] <jtan325> cmatheson, this was inspired by fluxbox's model
[05:21] <jtan325> because for the life of me, no one in this channel knew how to make gdm use .xsession
[05:21] <jtan325> so i had to take matters into my own hands :-)
[05:21] <nalioth_zZz> jtan325: yes, things you install should go in /usr/local/
[05:21] <Computer__Guru> i hope you brought a tissue along
[05:21] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Yes, and no errors
[05:21] <Computer__Guru> protein stains are hard to get out of clothes :>
[05:21] <Kyral> how do I build a package after downloading the source with apt?
[05:21] <cmatheson> Crutonman: try 'killall esd' and then do it
[05:22] <cmatheson> er, and then run your cedega stuff
[05:22] <Computer__Guru> try killall -9 esd
[05:22] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[05:22] <Kyral> figured it out anyway :P
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: then "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"
[05:23] <Kyral> yah
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: then "sudo dpkg - <builtpkg.deb>"
[05:23] <Computer__Guru> you mean sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[05:23] <jtan325> cmatheson, how stable is the CVS openbox
[05:23] <kubuntu-live> jtan325: gdm will execute ~/.xsession if you choose Default [System...] 
[05:24] <jtan325> haha yeah
[05:24] <kubuntu-live> kdm does the same thing
[05:24] <jtan325> after two days of searching
[05:24] <BeatYou> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1835551,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
[05:24] <jtan325> finally get like 3 people who know the answer :-)
[05:24] <BeatYou> is there a patcy for zlip on the repos ?
[05:24] <BeatYou> patch*
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> Computer__Guru: please preface users nicks when you address them (makes it a lot easier on everyone)
[05:25] <cmatheson> jtan325: i haven't had any problems at all yet
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> Computer__Guru: and kyral knows what i mean
[05:25] <jtan325> cmatheson, what is the cvs version?
[05:25] <Crutonman> That killall -9 esd worked?
[05:25] <Crutonman> err change the ? to a .
[05:25] <jtan325> cmatheson, and what kind of patches are you doing?
[05:25] <Crutonman> Is there a way anyone knows of to not have to do that everytime I start the game though?
[05:25] <Kyral> Computer__Guru, I actually have it set to "dpkgI"
[05:26] <Computer__Guru> heh
[05:26] <cmatheson> jtan325: i'm actually working on righting my own patches right now (none are done yet... the source-code is really sucky to hack because of the lack of commments)
[05:26] <Crutonman> And on a side note, how do I force quit the force quit window
[05:26] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you could make an esd.conf so that it autosleeps after 30 seconds of no activity or whatever
[05:26] <cmatheson> Crutonman: read the docs... i can't remember how to do it
[05:27] <cmatheson> jtan325: cvs is just the development version... the openbox.org has instructions on how to get it
[05:27] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Are these docs under man esd? I'm not really sure what i've done let alone where to look for documentation
[05:27] <Computer__Guru> my god, man, what have you done?!?
[05:27] <Computer__Guru> :D
[05:27] <Crutonman> lol
[05:27] <bonny> how do you restart esd
[05:27] <bonny> ?
[05:27] <phzi> killall esd
[05:27] <phzi> esd
[05:28] <phzi> lol
[05:28] <Computer__Guru> bonny: sudo killall -9 esd && sudo esd &
[05:28] <jtan325> cmatheson, i am a comp. sci. student, maybe openbox can provide me with something to do on weekends :-)
[05:28] <Computer__Guru> doesnt esd have an init.d scrtipt?
[05:28] <Crutonman> And I really need to figure out how to force quit the force quit window
[05:28] <Crutonman> Its just sitting there on top of everything
[05:28] <Crutonman> With no way to close it
[05:28] <KptnKrill> Hi, I'm stuck in console after a borked upgrade to breezy badger.
[05:29] <Computer__Guru> ask your questions int he channel, please. do not pm me
[05:29] <KptnKrill> Can someone point me to a url were I can fetch the breezy badger iso?
[05:29] <cmatheson> jtan325: haha, yeah that's what i'm looking for
[05:29] <Kyral> KptnKrill, your problem was upgrading to Breezy now
[05:29] <KptnKrill> I'm without apt, and without a text-based browser :|
[05:29] <KptnKrill> oh :|
[05:29] <cmatheson> jtan325: i start school in fall... hopefully i'll be able to start taking some cs classes
[05:29] <KptnKrill> what happened to breezy?
[05:29] <Kyral> Breezy != Stable now
[05:29] <Crutonman> It blew away
[05:29] <KptnKrill> I know that.
[05:29] <Crutonman> When hurricane dennis came
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: for today, you mean?
[05:30] <ws_> Computer__Guru, have any advice on how I could get the cvs install of ffmeg to work with faac support?
[05:30] <Kyral> Breezy == Stable in October :D
[05:30] <KptnKrill> So?
[05:30] <Kyral> nalioth_zZz, I meant for general use
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> ws_: where did you go?
[05:30] <KptnKrill> what's your point, stable or not, it should still work.
[05:30] <cmatheson> Crutonman: yeah, it's just man esd
[05:30] <KptnKrill> I'm not a general user...
[05:30] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Thanks
[05:30] <ws_> sorry I got disconnected not sure how
[05:30] <Computer__Guru> ws_: was that english? heh, no clue man.. i just sorta manage to hack myw ay through all of this
[05:30] <KptnKrill> I'm simply looking for the url.
[05:30] <ws_> there we go
[05:30] <bonny> what is the "-9" into killall -9 esd ?
[05:30] <Crutonman> Is there some kind of task manager equivelant for linux?
[05:30] <Crutonman> really need to kill off this window here
[05:30] <crimsun> there are many equivalents
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> ws_: you need libfaad, libfaac, and then you need to get into the mplayer source dir
[05:31] <KptnKrill> xkill
[05:31] <WS> Crutonman, qps
[05:31] <Kyral> Crutonman, System monitor
[05:31] <Computer__Guru> kill -9 is explicit. if it's tuck or zombied, it will die unconditionally
[05:31] <cmatheson> bonny: that forces it to die (it's messy)
[05:31] <cmatheson> bonny: normally you shouldn't need that
[05:31] <nalioth_zZz> WS: and type ./configure --help     and enable all the codecs you want it to play
[05:31] <WS> to encode stuff?
[05:31] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you could use xkill
[05:31] <WS> not decode
[05:31] <bonny> ok thank
[05:31] <WS> I want to end up encoding PSP stuff
[05:32] <WS> ffmpegX and pspvideo9 are OSX and windows versions of ffmpeg that support it
[05:32] <WS> I'm having hell with it in linux
[05:32] <Crutonman> I will be right back. Im just going to switch down to init 1 and back
[05:32] <Crutonman> That should fix it
[05:32] <nalioth_zZz> WS: the ./configure --help will show you how to enable everything
[05:32] <WS> ahh
[05:32] <WS> sec..
[05:32] <nalioth_zZz> WS: but you need the codec libs installed b4 you compile mplayer
[05:33] <nalioth_zZz> WS: for the file formats you are gonna work with
[05:33] <WS> have tons of them
[05:33] <WS> all of them
[05:33] <WS> :P
[05:33] <BeatYou> irc-hybrid can be linked to multiple servers right ?
[05:33] <nalioth_zZz> WS: well, you have your answer. have fun
[05:33] <BeatYou> ircd-hybrid*
[05:33] <WS> mk :P
[05:34] <WS> I'll give it a shot
[05:34] <WS> thanks
[05:34] <Kyral> Davey, use Beep Media Player
[05:34] <WS> beep is great
[05:34] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: his music is encrypted
[05:34] <Kyral> oh
[05:34] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: Then he should remove the encryption first.
[05:34] <Kyral> thats a stupid thing to do...
[05:34] <crimsun> Davey: you can. I use libfaad after using JHymn on the files.
[05:35] <Davey> JHymn?
[05:35] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: yes, but i was not gonna say that in here
[05:35] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: DVD Jon broke it in like 30 minutes or something :-)
[05:35] <crimsun> Davey: yup.
[05:35] <Davey> crimsun: where can I get that?
[05:35] <crimsun> (google)
[05:35] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: There's a subtle difference between technically illegal and morally correct
[05:35] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: i know lots of things that i don't talk about in here
[05:36] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: This one time, at band camp... ;-)
[05:36] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: Still, telling someone it's possibly and referring them to google isn't a problem I reckon.
[05:36] <cafuego> And if it is, it shopuldn't be
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> Davey: should you find one day, that your files have been freed, libfaad will be required for aac/mp4 files, i believe
[05:37] <Davey> crimsun: theres no linux build that I can see :/
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: well, in that case.. .. ..(i'll keep that in mind)
[05:37] <KptnKrill> can someone please point me to the url of an iso
[05:37] <crimsun> Davey: (Java)
[05:37] <KptnKrill> at this point any iso will do
[05:37] <KptnKrill> ubuntu, gentoo, I dun care any more.
[05:38] <crimsun> KptnKrill: click the download link
[05:38] <KptnKrill> crimsun: no browser
[05:38] <KptnKrill> and a borked
[05:38] <KptnKrill> apt-get
[05:38] <crimsun> you have links
[05:38] <GigaClon> what do I need to enable mp3 support
[05:38] <GigaClon> i have xmms
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I don't have links
[05:38] <crimsun> GigaClon: gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I need a url.
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I have wget.
[05:38] <crimsun> KptnKrill: are you using Breezy?
[05:38] <cafuego> KptnKrill: Any url?
[05:39] <Razor-X> back
[05:39] <KptnKrill> any that points to an iso :)
[05:39] <crimsun> KptnKrill: use w3m
[05:39] <KptnKrill> can't...
[05:39] <KptnKrill> I have a borked apt-get...
[05:39] <KptnKrill> you don't seem to be understanding...
[05:39] <Razor-X> crimsun: in emacs ;)
[05:39] <crimsun> KptnKrill: w3m is installed by default
[05:39] <sizzam> whats the easiest way to find the distro name and version you are running?
[05:39] <KptnKrill> I don't have w3m... I stripped out the garbage after I installed.
[05:40] <KptnKrill> please.  I'm only asking for a url :|
[05:40] <KptnKrill> If there were anyother solution I'd have taken it by now
[05:40] <GigaClon> KptnKrill: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[05:40] <KptnKrill> thank you so much :D
[05:40] <KptnKrill> you're my hero :D
[05:41] <cmatheson> anyone ever dual-booted a win2000 box w/ linux?
[05:41] <crimsun> next time, don't strip out "garbage" like a cli web browser
[05:41] <KptnKrill> well I thought that links was installed :|
[05:41] <sizzam> lynx?
[05:41] <KptnKrill> yah, lynx rather.
[05:41] <crimsun> cmatheson: a while ago, yes.
[05:42] <cafuego> cmatheson: Yes, it's trivial. Check the LilONT Dual boot howto.
[05:42] <cafuego> LILO/NT
[05:42] <cafuego> You can also wipe the wibndows boot sector and just use grub.
[05:42] <holycow> wow, inkscape isn't half bad
[05:43] <cafuego> holycow: wholly bad? ;-)
[05:43] <holycow> you guys are a bunch of demanding primadonas :)
[05:44] <jtan325> cmatheson, it didn't work in fluxbox
[05:45] <WS> when you dpkg -i something how do you force it?
[05:45] <crimsun> see the --force* options. Caveat: don't use any unless deathly necessary.
[05:46] <cafuego> WS: dpkg -i --force[option]  - see dpkg -force-help
[05:46] <WS> mk
[05:46] <WS> i need a different version of ffmpeg to work... but it isnt compiling right
[05:47] <cmatheson> cafuego: i'll check that out... any idea why it would kind of 'freeze up' at the initial grub stage 1.5 line though?
[05:48] <valtaric> computer guru are you still there?
[05:48] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh that's too bad... maybe aterm's still gotta bug?
[05:48] <Razor-X> anyone wanna see a screenshot of my desktop?
[05:48] <sizzam> sure
[05:49] <Razor-X> http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/snapshot5.png
[05:49] <Razor-X> that there is _technically_ not a desktop, but the desktop I use ;)
[05:49] <valtaric> hey can anyone help me get mplayer into a .deb file?
[05:49] <crimsun> valtaric: the version in multiverse doesn't work for you?
[05:49] <sizzam> razor-x:  do you see any lag during boot time using eterm?
[05:50] <zenlunatic> Razor-X: why do you use opera? its not free software
[05:50] <Razor-X> sizzam: I don't start Eterm at bootup, but Eterm loading time is incredibly speedy
[05:50] <jtan325> cmatheson, oh well. i am going to check out this thing called "devil's pie"
[05:50] <valtaric> i was trying what another person was telling me but didn;t work so i tried d/l the program but i need to turn it into a .deb for it to work i think..
[05:50] <cmatheson> jtan325: rad, i've never heard of it
[05:50] <BeatYou> how do i extract a .tgz
[05:50] <Razor-X> and the little icon you see at the top-left, that's the best part about compiling ;), even better than the native twin support
[05:50] <jtan325> cmatheson, i "only" have a 17 inch screen, so maybe it will help with keeping my real estate...
[05:50] <crimsun> tar xzf
[05:50] <cmatheson> BeatYou: tar xzvf foobar.tgz
[05:50] <Razor-X> BeatYou: tar -xvzf .tgz
[05:50] <cmatheson> jtan325: haha
[05:51] <BeatYou> crimsun cmatheson Razor-X i have tried that, says not in gzip format ?
[05:51] <crimsun> then it's named incorrectly. Try tar xf
[05:51] <crimsun> mozilla used to have such issues
[05:51] <cmatheson> BeatYou: sounds corrupted
[05:52] <BeatYou> the fiel is ircd-hybrid-7.1.0.tgz
[05:52] <Razor-X> BeatYou: you gonna compile ircd?
[05:52] <valtaric> hey crimsum can you help me get mplayer onto my sys.?
[05:52] <BeatYou> hopefully haha
[05:52] <Razor-X> BeatYou: well... that's a little startling if you don't know extraction commands ;)
[05:52] <blrich> could someone help? having problems setting up my netgear 802.11g ath5212 wireless card
[05:52] <crimsun> valtaric: did you try the version in multiverse? (my previous question)
[05:53] <valtaric> i have no clue waht mulityverse is i'm new to linux/ubuntu.
[05:53] <BeatYou> was corrupted archive
[05:53] <crimsun> valtaric: find Synaptic in the System >... menu
[05:53] <jtan325> cmatheson, do you use a pager?
[05:53] <valtaric> k
[05:54] <valtaric> k synaptic packge is open
[05:54] <sizzam> im looking for a simple ftp server to set up.  i want to set up 1 user and no anonymous access
[05:54] <crimsun> valtaric: now go to Settings> Repositories
[05:55] <valtaric> k
[05:55] <valtaric> there
[05:55] <tarvid> struggling with wp8 on ubuntu
[05:55] <crimsun> valtaric: now click Add
[05:55] <valtaric> k
[05:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: i don't, i keep thinking about getting one
[05:55] <tarvid> faq suggests I have libsafe enabled
[05:55] <tarvid> but the instructions on how to turn it off don't seem to apply
[05:56] <blrich> struggling with my wireless card which should work 'out fo the box' according to wiki - can someone help? drivers are recognised but interface isn't
[05:56] <crimsun> valtaric: now select the bottom two that are currently unchecked
[05:56] <tarvid> any hints on running libc5 programs on ubuntu?
[05:56] <valtaric> ok
[05:56] <cmatheson> tarvid: can you recompile from source?
[05:56] <tarvid> no, the target iw wp8
[05:57] <valtaric> do irefresh it and do a search for mplayer now?
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: whats the last thing you did?
[05:58] <valtaric> i tried what you told me but it wasn;t working.
[05:58] <valtaric> so i'm trying it in mulitiverse now..
[05:58] <jwb> is there a simple way to remove a line from loadmodules in the initrd?
[05:58] <crouton> phzi: hey, you still about?
[05:58] <Computer__Guru> did you uncomment all 4 universe lines from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:58] <jwb> my loadmodules has ide-scsi and i don't want it there.  it's not in /etc/mkinitrd/modules, either
[05:59] <valtaric> maybe... i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing so i'm not sure.. lmao
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> no, its in universe
[05:59] <monk> i'm having a real battle with my dvd/cd burner
[05:59] <sizzam> anyone use the webmin utility for pure-ftpd?
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> pm me
[05:59] <tarvid> cmatheson, i installed libc5 and libc5-compat entries are created in /etc/ld.so/conf but they are empty
[05:59] <valtaric> .?
[05:59] <tarvid> that is the directories they point to are empty
[05:59] <tarvid> the wp8 faq suggests I am running libsafe
[05:59] <monk> i pop in a blank cdrw, and it won't recognize that i've put anything in.  i manually blank it with cdrecord and it pops up nautilus in burn:/// mode, but it doesn't see a cd recorder to burn to.
[06:00] <monk> it does the same thing with dvds (with the exception of having to blank them)
[06:00] <blrich> please, can anyone help me?
[06:01] <monk> blrich: what's the prob?
[06:01] <crimsun> valtaric: ok, got multiverse and universe added?
[06:02] <blrich> monk, i can't setup my wireless card, even though the wiki says it's supported
[06:02] <monk> and dmesg is griping that "This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"
[06:02] <blrich> i have a netgear pci wireless 802.11abg, with an ath5212 chipset
[06:02] <monk> blrich: what have you done so far?
[06:02] <blrich> it says it's supposed to come up as ath0 interface, but it doesn't
[06:02] <blrich> drivers for it are auto-loaded on startup
[06:02] <monk> what does dmesg say?
[06:03] <tarvid> blrich, i have an atheros card working the Proxim wd-8470
[06:03] <blrich> tarvid, those are drivers?
[06:03] <blrich> monk, will check brb
[06:03] <crimsun> blrich: what does ,,ip a'' tell you? (use the pastebin in the topic)
[06:03] <blrich> monk root@blackbox:/home/blrich # dmesg | grep ath
[06:03] <blrich> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
[06:03] <blrich> ath_hal: 0.9.12.14 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)
[06:03] <blrich> ath_rate_onoe: 1.0
[06:03] <blrich> ath_pci: 0.9.4.12 (EXPERIMENTAL)
[06:03] <blrich> ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 13
[06:03] <tarvid> blrich, installed ubuntu with the card installed and it worked
[06:04] <tarvid> this is an 802.11 b/g card (not trimode)
[06:04] <blrich> tarvid, how do i use those proxim drivers?
[06:04] <tarvid> blrich, they were installed automatically. There are madwifi drivers and ath0 does show up. I didn't do anything special to get them to work.
[06:05] <blrich> crimsun, root@blackbox:/home/blrich # ip a
[06:05] <blrich> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
[06:05] <blrich>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[06:05] <blrich>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
[06:05] <blrich>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[06:05] <blrich>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:05] <blrich> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
[06:05] <blrich>     link/ether 00:11:d8:78:37:10 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[06:05] <blrich>     inet 192.168.0.72/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
[06:05] <blrich>     inet6 fe80::211:d8ff:fe78:3710/64 scope link
[06:05] <blrich>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:05] <blrich> 3: sit0: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop
[06:05] <blrich>     link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0
[06:05] <blrich> tarvid, will chck it out hang on
[06:05] <cafuego> blrich: See the 'EXPERIMENTAL' bit?
[06:05] <crimsun> blrich: (please use #flood or the pastebin in the topic next time)
[06:05] <crouton> whoa.. no flooding
[06:05] <crouton> pastebin, son
[06:05] <blrich> cafuego, no, what?
[06:06] <cafuego> blrich: [14:03]  <blrich> ath_pci: 0.9.4.12 (EXPERIMENTAL)
[06:06] <cafuego> blrich: probably not gunna work.
[06:06] <GigaClon> !divx
[06:06] <ubotu> No idea, GigaClon
[06:06] <blrich> tarvid, can't find any drivers in /lib/modules/....net/wireless that match madwifi or proxim
[06:06] <crimsun> GigaClon: w32codecs in debian-marillat
[06:06] <cafuego> GigaClon: iki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <blrich> cafuego, ah, good point. well i'm doing an update now, i only installed 1hour ago
[06:06] <cafuego> s/iki/wiki/
[06:07] <cafuego> blrich: You may end up having to use ndiswrapper
[06:07] <blrich> cafuego, well that should work. and according to wiki, so should ath5212 drivers
[06:07] <blrich> hmm
[06:08] <misfit_toy> blrich, ndiswrapper works well for these things.
[06:08] <monk> should a computer/OS all of a sudden stop being able to recognize blank optical media?
[06:08] <cafuego> monk: No, it should not but it can happen.
[06:08] <monk> cafuego: any particular reason?
[06:08] <cafuego> monk: Normally means the drive is busted.
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: I've had two do that
[06:09] <monk> cafuego: don't tell me that...this is a *brand* new machine
[06:09] <monk> well - a month old
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Mine was brand new too.
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Sony gave me a new one.
[06:09] <blrich> well my lspci says this
[06:09] <blrich> 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Warranty is your friend, usually ;-)
[06:09] <blrich> does that mean anything?
[06:09] <againstme> can someone please private message me about using alien and installing non deb packages on ubuntu?
[06:09] <againstme> thanks
[06:10] <blrich> would seem to say it's an ar5212 which should work
[06:10] <cafuego> againstme: alien foo.rpm; dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:10] <Razor-X> I never used wget on an https :(
[06:10] <Razor-X> I keep getting forbidden
[06:11] <HostingGeek> LOL
[06:11] <HostingGeek> Look at what I just found
[06:11] <HostingGeek> do apt-get moo
[06:11] <monk> cafuego: yeah - they're going to love hearing from me.  "You remember that laptop you sent me?  The one with Winblows?  Well, the first thing that I did was wipe Winblows off of it and put a *real* OS on it.  And my DVD burner is busted.  You need to send me a new one."  "I'm sorry sir, you're running an unsupported operating system.  We can't help you."
[06:11] <HostingGeek> you don't need to be root
[06:11] <HostingGeek>          (__)
[06:11] <HostingGeek>          (oo)
[06:11] <HostingGeek>    /------\/
[06:11] <HostingGeek>   / |    ||
[06:11] <HostingGeek>  *  /\---/\
[06:11] <HostingGeek>     ~~   ~~
[06:11] <Razor-X> is this cowspeak?
[06:11] <HostingGeek> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[06:11] <cafuego> monk: <heh> Time to put windows back on and check if the drive works in that.
[06:11] <Razor-X> HostingGeek: install cowspeak ;)
[06:11] <HostingGeek> I just did it
[06:12] <cafuego> Also see 'moomoo(en|de)code'
[06:12] <holycow> with a little bit more polish inkscape is going to be a pretty darn good little vector illustrator
[06:12] <monk> cafuego: mmmmm....don't know if i wanna do that.....
[06:12] <HostingGeek> E: Invalid operation moomooencode
[06:13] <crimsun> HostingGeek: c'mon, you know better than to flood
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> hey all, UbuntuLinux Live is saving my butt
[06:13] <trevor_> Anyone know the apt source.list for bluefish?
[06:13] <holycow> hows that nomasteryoda
[06:13] <trevor_> editor*
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> had UPS powerfailure and had to boot up with it
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> to get to my hdb data
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> ... /home
[06:13] <Razor-X> hah, a UPS powerfailure
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> to copy to a sata drive i just installed yesterday
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> yea
[06:14] <Razor-X> now tohse happen often ;)
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> Razor-X, it flipped off, on, off, on
[06:14] <Razor-X> XD
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> hosed the superblock
[06:14] <Razor-X> take that UPS!!!
[06:14] <holycow> nomasteryoda, kanotix and knoppix have come in hand for many a similar situation indeedy
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> and sling it
[06:14] <Razor-X> *those
[06:14] <bimberi> trevor_: it's in the "universe" repository
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> holycow, yes
[06:14] <cafuego> Stupid bot
[06:14] <Razor-X> I met Kano
[06:14] <Razor-X> he's a cool guy
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> I just had a nice shiny new set of Ubuntu disks got from a friend
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> cool
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> I like kanotix
[06:15] <trevor_> bimberi: where can i read about "universe" im unsure what is or how i can use it
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> have the dvd qemu edtion of knoppix 4.0
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> nice
[06:15] <bimberi> trevor: ...
[06:15] <crimsun> trevor_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages
[06:15] <bimberi> !repositories
[06:15] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> even has the kitchensync
[06:16] <odyssey> !mp3
[06:16] <ubotu> odyssey: I don't know
[06:16] <tarvid> blrich, are u there?
[06:16] <cafuego> Crud, I can't find the moomooencode source, all I got are libc5 binaries.
[06:17] <harris|u> !win32codec
[06:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, harris|u
[06:17] <harris|u> bleh, am I searching for the right thing -- to play .wma files?
[06:17] <cafuego> !tell harris|u -about w32codecs
[06:17] <seth_k> harris|u: w32codecs
[06:18] <odyssey> its not a very handy bot really
[06:18] <seth_k> harris|u: you can find them in Backports
[06:18] <harris|u> okay, thanks
[06:18] <thilo> Hi. has anybody of you a samsung notebook running with ubuntu?
[06:18] <HostingGeek> crimsun: me flood? never
[06:19] <misfit_toy> thilo, no dude, I got a Dell! ;)
[06:19] <againstme>  powerbook
[06:19] <cafuego> poor misfit_toy
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> thilo, no, but I got an old Sony 505 working with it
[06:19] <sizzam> i need some help with webmin login problems, setting up for first time
[06:19] <odyssey> thilo if you want to know if it works check the wiki
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> wow
[06:20] <harris|u> seth_k, what do you suggest doing -- the download keeps timing out and I can't seem to get the codecs
[06:20] <Razor-X> cowsay is so awesome!
[06:20] <againstme> can someone please pm me for help with alien and installing non deb packages
[06:20] <misfit_toy> cafuego, this dell laptop SUCKED on xp, so I put ubuntu on it, it is cruisin' now
[06:20] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Mine all sucked; got a batch of 5. Some are on their 3rd mobo.
[06:21] <GigaClon> misfit_toy: same here
[06:21] <cafuego> misfit_toy: As in: the hardware failed. Never mind the software.
[06:21] <seth_k> harris|u: from backports?
[06:21] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I work for a bank, we used to get all Dell shit, we switched to HP recently
[06:21] <harris|u> seth_k, yes using synaptic to get them
[06:21] <GigaClon> againstme: alien -d /path/to/rpm
[06:21] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Yeah, my current one is an HP.
[06:21] <seth_k> harris|u: dialup? the codecs are huge
[06:22] <trevor_> oh now thats sweet
[06:22] <trevor_> thanks
[06:22] <cafuego> Due for replacement next year.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I have 2 hp's here and 4 dells, they all work great with ubuntu
[06:22] <harris|u> seth_k, no, DSL
[06:22] <againstme> is that installing alien?
[06:22] <seth_k> harris|u: are you using mirrormax backports mirror?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: All 5 Dells are dead. The HPs work fine, as do the G4's.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, laptops?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: yes
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, which model?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: CPtS 500
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: They had a design flaw.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, ouch
[06:23] <misfit_toy> cafuego, yes they did
[06:23] <cafuego> misfit_toy: keyboard controlelr broke a LOT.
[06:23] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I remember
[06:23] <misfit_toy> lol
[06:23] <harris|u> seth_k, yes
[06:23] <cafuego> but you know, at the end the repair guy knew to ask for a coffee when he turned up
[06:23] <fileserver> anyone here give perl lessons?
[06:23] <JDahl> do you have problems with Dell Optiplex? I have a couple of those, and they randomly crash
[06:23] <cafuego> !stab remanufacturing
[06:23] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[06:24] <seth_k> harris|u: that is the most heavily used mirror... maybe try using another? I don't uses backports myself, so that's just a guess
[06:24] <misfit_toy> cafuego, yeah, when we have our older dell servers like the 2650's serviced, that's the first thing, 'would you like some coffee?"
[06:24] <amittp> does ubuntu support any repository for j2sdk1.4.2?
[06:24] <bimberi> harris|u: another backports mirror is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/
[06:24] <elshadii> can someone please give me advise on how to install oo.org beta in Hoary?  i see a ton of install scripts but they are all giving 404's
[06:24] <harris|u> bimberi, okay thanks
[06:24] <seth_k> harris|u: I see the newest backports mirror is listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46459
[06:25] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Most of my clients use HP/Compaq servers these days. The only service they've needed is ripping out a drive and plugging in a new one on failure, twice.
[06:25] <seth_k> elshadii: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines about "universe"
[06:25] <crimsun> amittp: no, but you can easily generate a Java deb
[06:25] <seth_k> elshadii: then you can install it through synaptic (1.9.79)
[06:25] <cafuego> misfit_toy: But that's not too abd over 4 years and 6 servers.
[06:25] <crimsun> amittp: see the java-package package
[06:25] <harris|u> seth_k, okay when i update the mirror - do I need to do apt-get update or anything?
[06:25] <cafuego> elshadii: apt-get install openoffice.org2
[06:25] <seth_k> harris|u: that's correct. sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <amittp> crimsun, thanks
[06:26] <elshadii> ok thanks
[06:26] <blrich> can someone tell me how i can get xfce for ubuntu?
[06:26] <Razor-X> since I started logging this channel yesterday, and with the intermittent leaves i've taken, I have logged up 29450 lines of log
[06:27] <misfit_toy> cafuego, we have nearly 2000 servers, about .25 Dell and the rest HP/Compaq
[06:27] <IceDC571> blrich: sudo aptitude install xfce4
[06:27] <Razor-X> !info xfce4
[06:27] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:27] <blrich> what's aptitude?
[06:27] <IceDC571> !info aptitude
[06:27] <ubotu> aptitude: (terminal-based apt frontend), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.2.15.8-1ubuntu12 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 4804 kB
[06:27] <Razor-X> aptitude is awesome
[06:27] <Razor-X> I reccomend it wholeheartedly
[06:27] <Aerebus> anyone know the command to delete a folder and everything in it? rm -d folername?
[06:27] <crimsun> rm -rf
[06:27] <concept10> misfit_toy, hello my friend
[06:27] <IceDC571> Aerebus: rm -rf filename
[06:27] <Razor-X> Aerebus: rm -r foldername
[06:28] <Razor-X> errr, -rf
[06:28] <Razor-X> uggghhh, dired has made me lazy ;)
[06:28] <Aerebus> lol ty
[06:28] <IceDC571> no one got it right lol
[06:28] <blrich> no packages matching xfce, or xfce4
[06:28] <misfit_toy> concept10, wassup mang?
[06:28] <Razor-X> !repos
[06:28] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:28] <qt2> is 7zip compression goood enough to squeeze 9.8 gb down into 1,8gb? o.o;
[06:28] <crimsun> IceDC571: "no one?"
[06:28] <blrich> !repos
[06:28] <IceDC571> crimsun: ahh, you did
[06:28] <blrich> !repos
[06:29] <concept10> misfit_toy, nothing much.  How was the weekend?
[06:29] <misfit_toy> has ANYbody found the fix for the 99% cpu problem with gnome?
[06:29] <misfit_toy> concept10, HOT
[06:29] <crimsun> IceDC571: so did you
[06:29] <againstme> a good place to get .deb packages?
[06:29] <IceDC571> theres a 99% cpu problem with gnome?
[06:29] <concept10> misfit_toy, when do you have that problem?
[06:29] <IceDC571> dont tell me its possible to reproduce it
[06:29] <JDahl> qt2, that depends on what you are compressing, of course... unless you have 10gb textfiles, it doesnt sound likely
[06:30] <misfit_toy> concept10, I had it in FC and Ubuntu both, suddenly the cpu spikes to 99% and stays there unless you reboot....top and ps don't report any errant apps..
[06:30] <seth_k> blrich: aptitude pwns all </late>
[06:30] <againstme> need help with alien
[06:30] <misfit_toy> concept10, it's random too
[06:30] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: it might be a problem with your specific hardware?
[06:30] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, that's my guess
[06:30] <qt2> JDahl, roms... XD
[06:31] <concept10> misfit_toy, the only time I see a problem similar to that is when some website use too much flash
[06:31] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: have you tried running memtest86 to see if there are any conflicts in your memory?
[06:31] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, I almost think it's this wifi card, but I didn't have it with FC, so I'm thinking it might be wifi itself with Gnome
[06:31] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: ahh, alright
[06:31] <JDahl> qt2, in that case - probably... I doubt 20 year old Pacman roms are compressed in any way
[06:31] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, yeah, ran memtest a billion times in the last few months
[06:32] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: hah.. what sad lives we live running memtest
[06:32] <misfit_toy> concept10, this used to be an issue with udev, but they fixed that, so I say it's GNOME dammit
[06:32] <qt2> JDahl, heh, snes... :o
[06:32] <qt2> any woot \o/
[06:33] <misfit_toy> the problem is that you can't find what's sucking the cpu
[06:33] <misfit_toy> pisses me off
[06:33] <tarvid> blrich, my card is a 5212 card also and is using the ath-pci drivers
[06:33] <misfit_toy> so yeah, it must be this DELL laptop, lmao
[06:33] <misfit_toy> otherwise it rocks
[06:33] <fr500> hello
[06:33] <JDahl> againstme, you need to be more specific... also dont expect alien to always work out dependencies correctly (I think)
[06:34] <harris|u> Can someone help me with this error - Totem could not play 'file:///home/harris/bball-game.wmv'. - I just installed the w32codecs but I'm still getting it
[06:34] <IceDC571> oh wait im using an intel right now, damn!
[06:34] <fr500> i am trying to install bind9 from synaptic, but i get MD5 checksum error, any workarounds?
[06:34] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, lol
[06:34] <blrich> tarvid, so does mine but it doesn't work
[06:35] <bimberi> !usmirror
[06:35] <ubotu> somebody said usmirror was if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <misfit_toy> damn cats keep knockin' up the neighborhood slut cats
[06:35] <blrich> bbl
[06:35] <concept10> heh
[06:35] <concept10> alley cats
[06:35] <fr500> ubotu, gonna try, thanks
[06:35] <ubotu> fr500: I give up, what is it?
[06:35] <IceDC571> im trying to get a linux pc for $300.. any of you have any reccomendations for hardware?
[06:35] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: i like intels.. but their new socket design is just... strange
[06:36] <misfit_toy> concept10, yeah, this one cute little bitch cat keeps begging for it and my male cats just mount /mnt/female /mnt/slut
[06:36] <concept10> IceDC571, do you have any components that you are going to reuse?
[06:36] <againstme> how do you run alien from ubuntu?
[06:36] <IceDC571> concept10: im going to reuse my 80gb sata drive and thats about it
[06:36] <fr500> againstme, sudo alien rpm_file
[06:36] <concept10> misfit_toy, have you been drinking tonight?
[06:37] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, I'm more involved in software lately so I am SO far behind in the hardware world..even though I build servers daily, I just build what they give me and support the web sites on them.
[06:37] <againstme> from the terminal?
[06:37] <crouton> lol
[06:37] <fr500> is anyone using ubuntu as a server?
[06:37] <misfit_toy> concept10, of course!
[06:37] <fr500> i mean, big server
[06:37] <crimsun> well the entire ubuntu.com domain does
[06:37] <IceDC571> lol well that might be obvious
[06:37] <fr500> oh
[06:37] <misfit_toy> ok, time for bed in a few, l8r y'all
[06:38] <aru> I went to a local computer recycler and got a linux machine for $25
[06:38] <concept10> IceDC571, I would get a A64 motherboard and cpu combo, 512 ram and a cheap video card for about 300
[06:38] <budish76> i use ecs desknote a901 with sis 630 vga
[06:38] <crouton> that'd be like hotmail.com running on IIS... it might now. ;)
[06:38] <budish76> why i cannot do glxgears on console
[06:38] <aru> does that help?
[06:38] <concept10> I have a ubuntu server
[06:38] <againstme> i installed alien from synaptic and ran that sudo alein command and it said alien not found?
[06:38] <concept10> no different than running a debian server
[06:38] <budish76> [sis_alloc.c:154] : Failure to allocate Z buffer. that's the error
[06:39] <fr500> concept10, what services are you hosting?
[06:39] <budish76> anyone know the problem
[06:39] <cmatheson> budish76: you need to get the unofficial drivers for your sis chipset... which one is it?
[06:39] <budish76> xsis
[06:39] <budish76> xsis-svga
[06:39] <cmatheson> budish76: yeah, but which one? 630/730/760/330?
[06:39] <budish76> already installed
[06:39] <budish76> hmmm
[06:39] <asimismo> If I did an update-rc.d without the -f flag, what actually changed?
[06:39] <concept10> againstme,  alien --to-deb package.rpm
[06:39] <concept10>            Convert the package.rpm into a package.deb
[06:39] <budish76> wait a sec
[06:40] <khalid_> hi!
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, i'm in a project, on providing free internet and e-mail services for my city, the "linux routers" are running hoary now with no probs, except some problems with an especific NIC vendor
[06:40] <JDahl> againstme, what is it you need to install?
[06:40] <concept10> fr500, I have apache2 php4 mysql for a mambo CMS
[06:40] <budish76> cmatheson: at synaptic it says SiS 540/630 Linux display driver
[06:40] <budish76> The sis program allow the user to use the sis 540/630 full hardware
[06:40] <budish76> acceleration. It included line drawing, Textout, bitblt & hardware
[06:40] <budish76> cursor....
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, so i wanna knowif it would hold up well for a big mail server
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, ok
[06:41] <concept10> fr500, the same as debian, so well, it shouldnt cause any problems
[06:41] <budish76> actually i use the rpm package then converted to deb
[06:41] <budish76> by alien
[06:41] <JDahl> fr500, what's that got to do with the distro? that depends on the mailserver
[06:41] <fr500> JDahl, i know, but some distros are more stable than others
[06:42] <BeatYou> anyone know an easy way of monitoring ircd-hybrid ?
[06:42] <cmatheson> budish76: go google around for that error... i don't have the link on this box... a guy has written rad drivers for it that will fix that problem though
[06:42] <cmatheson> budish76: whinschoofer or something like that
[06:42] <fr500> JDahl, i had red hat 9 in some routers before, it requiered a reboot every now and then, maybe because of bad quality hardware, i don't know, but doesnt happen with ubuntu
[06:42] <budish76> btw thanks a lot
[06:42] <budish76> i'll googling
[06:43] <fr500> i was running OSPF in the backbone, but it's still a smallish backbone :p
[06:43] <concept10> fr500, you use linux as the router?
[06:43] <fr500> concept10, yes, it's cheaper
[06:43] <fr500> concept10, and works wonders
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> yeah, linux runs better as a router than any router ont he market :D
[06:44] <concept10> fr500, have you tried freebsd?
[06:44] <fr500> concept10, one word: FLEXIBILITY
[06:44] <fr500> concept10, not yet
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> and it'll run as fast as any router out there on a P-II 350 w/64MB RAM
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> if you add a wifi card to it, it'll even do your wireless :D
[06:45] <elshadii> I tried to install muine, it installed but i'm getting a seg fault when trying to import my folder, is there any way I can uninstall it and all of the stuff that was installed along with it?
[06:45] <fr500> concept10, it used to be an ISP, it had debts, so they broke
[06:45] <fr500> concept10, it had like 400clients back then
[06:45] <fr500> we got hold of it, but there are no clients now
[06:46] <bienve> :D
[06:46] <bienve> hi all! :)
[06:46] <jewel> elshadii:  You can type apt-cache show muine and it'll tell you all of the programs that muine depends on
[06:46] <jewel> elshadii:  You can then go and try and remove them in synaptic and see if they try and remove other packages
[06:46] <fr500> just like 20 people connected to the freenet still in testing, we need sponsorship for bandwidth before we can let this grow
[06:46] <elshadii> ok thanks much
[06:46] <edamron> Hi everyone... First time I've used IRC so be gentle :-)
[06:46] <BeatYou> fr500 what are you hosting ? ircd
[06:47] <Razor-X> elshadii: the first lesson to learn on IRC is tab-complete ;)
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, we are gonna give free internet and email for the whole city
[06:47] <Razor-X> when addressing one person, rather than typing out their full name, hit <TAB>
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, a freenetwork+
[06:47] <edamron> oh tab complete? What's that?
[06:47] <jewel> elshadii:  If it tries to remove a bunch of stuff that you use, then click on edit->unmark all
[06:47] <BeatYou> fr500 cool
[06:47] <BeatYou> with a P2 ?
[06:47] <concept10> fr500, dialup?
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, nope, that was that guy's idea
[06:48] <fr500> concept10, no, wifi mostly
[06:48] <pinko>  anybody like file managers?  any thoughts on what good ones are good, and why?
[06:48] <JDahl> Razor-X, then afterwards we'll teach him to keep tabbing until he gets the right nick ;)
[06:48] <HostingGeek> Can we have this in ubuntu http://www.eeggs.com/items/39921.html
[06:48] <Razor-X> JDahl: ;)
[06:48] <HostingGeek> crimsun: maybe you should read that as mdz isn't here
[06:48] <Madpilot> edamron: type the first two or three letter of someone's nick. then hit TAB. autocompletion.
[06:48] <pinko> short attention span prevents waiting around for too many replies.
[06:49] <signbarn> Does anyone have an idea why i can hear my microphone through my speakers, but i can't record with the sound recorder or get sound to work over GnomeMeeting?
[06:49] <edamron> Madpilot kewl
[06:49] <fr500> we have one node now, and 2mbit connection to internet, paid by us, eventually it's gotta be more nodes connected via fiber/wimax to the master node, the clients connect to the nodes using wifi links
[06:49] <edamron> Madpilot, Okay I think I almost got it :-)
[06:49] <fr500> concept10, the clients have to get the equipment by themselves, and being free there is no guaranted level of service
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  There are two little icons under each volume control in the capture tab
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  The first controls whether or not you hear it through the speakers
[06:50] <Madpilot> edamron: good, that's IRC 101. notice that msgs that start with your nick are highlighted,too.
[06:50] <fr500> concept10, but the free wan links we provide are making lan partys a lot of fun :)
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  and the second controls whether or not it will be recorded by applications
[06:50] <dougsk> HostingGeek, that would be a very nice egg.
[06:50] <crimsun> HostingGeek: who says there aren't?
[06:50] <edamron> Madpilot, Yes very kewl.  So am I on some kind of default channel?
[06:51] <jewel> Wasn't there an easter egg on april fools?
[06:51] <blmartin777> How come in a terminal when I try to su and type my password it says authentication failed?
[06:51] <jewel> Some sort of different login screen or something?
[06:51] <iamdaone> I am using Hoary hedgehog
[06:51] <iamdaone> I want to update to the newest Ubuntu distro
[06:51] <jewel> blmartin777:  You haven't set a root password
[06:51] <dougsk> jewel, yeah I seen it I was horrified, teasing
[06:51] <iamdaone> WITHOUT having to format my hardrive
[06:51] <edamron> Madpilot, I don't really understand the layout of IRC yet.
[06:51] <blmartin777> Where do I do that
[06:51] <iamdaone> and then put all my gigs of stuff back on it
[06:51] <jewel> blmartin777:  If you just want a root shell type sudo bash
[06:51] <asimismo> Maybe this is a better question--If I used update-rc.d to prevent a service from starting, how do I get it back to how it was?
[06:52] <jewel> blmartin777:  To set (or change) the root password type sudo passwd
[06:52] <iamdaone> is it possible to upgrade to the latest distro without reformatting the HD
[06:52] <pinko> I am on irc in gaim.  I keep forgetting it can do that.
[06:52] <tim> anyone know what package I need to install in ubuntu to get gFTP to support https?
[06:52] <blmartin777> thanks jewel
[06:52] <concept10> iamdaone, yes
[06:52] <Madpilot> edamron: you're on #ubuntu channel on freenode.net; there are lots (thousands, probably) of servers, and 100x that # of channels
[06:52] <fr500> pinko, you have warty?
[06:52] <iamdaone> how concept10?
[06:52] <jewel> iamdaone:  Yes.  What are you currently running and what to you want to upgrade to?
[06:52] <dougsk> iamdaone, type /topic although it's possible the consequences are high
[06:52] <iamdaone> I am running hoary hedgehog
[06:52] <signbarn> jewel: thank you! i feel retarded :-)
[06:52] <iamdaone> and I want the latest thing
[06:52] <jewel> iamdaone:  That is the latest thing right now
[06:52] <pinko> nope.  hoary.  why, fr500?
[06:52] <iamdaone> yes
[06:53] <JDahl> iamdaone, you could upgrade to Breezy, which is in development, but if things break (and they will) you need to have a good working linux knowledge to fix them
[06:53] <jewel> iamdaone:  The next version called breezy, is due on September 13
[06:53] <fr500> pinko, misread, i though you were the one looking to dist-upgrade
[06:53] <concept10> iamdaone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryUpgradeNotes
[06:53] <iamdaone> ok
[06:53] <iamdaone> thanks I will go there
[06:53] <edamron> Madpilot, How do I find the right channel to ask questions about packages for ubuntu?
[06:53] <iamdaone> I know linux pretty well
[06:53] <iamdaone> but am knew to deb
[06:53] <crimsun> edamron: generally, this is the correct channel
[06:53] <fr500> have you played nexuiz?
[06:54] <Madpilot> edamron: you're on it. ask away!
[06:54] <pinko> fr500: nah, breezy is not very highly recommended I notice
[06:54] <blmartin777> how do you search with apt-get?
[06:54] <crimsun> blmartin777: you don't. use aptitude or apt-cache
[06:54] <concept10> apt-cache search packagename
[06:54] <JDahl> blmartin777, apt-cache search
[06:54] <harris|u> Can someone help me with this error - Totem could not play 'file:///home/harris/bball-game.wmv'. - I just installed the w32codecs but I'm still getting it
[06:54] <signbarn> jewel: i still get nothing when i record
[06:54] <fr500> pinko, i thought u were iamdaone, it's one line after your post
[06:54] <edamron> Madpilot, can I address a question to two or three people at a time?
[06:54] <sjjubb1989> what do i do about a corrupt package (.deb)
[06:54] <Computer__Guru> what package?
[06:54] <iamdaone> that tells me how to upgrade to haory
[06:54] <sjjubb1989> it was not downloaded in binary but ascii mode
[06:54] <iamdaone> I want to upgrade to breezy
[06:55] <Computer__Guru> redownload it in binary mode?
[06:55] <jewel> iamdaone:  Right now breezy upgrade is broken
[06:55] <concept10> iamdaone, search the wiki
[06:55] <sjjubb1989> exactly how(i used IE because it freezes my linux on their site)
[06:55] <Madpilot> edamron: just ask w/o anyone's nick in front of the msg.
[06:55] <iamdaone> oh Ok
[06:55] <jewel> iamdaone:  My brother just tried to do it and it didn't work
[06:55] <Computer__Guru> use an ftp client? *shrug*
[06:55] <iamdaone> oh OK
[06:55] <sjjubb1989> lol
[06:55] <iamdaone> I will wait for it then :)
[06:55] <tim> quick question: anyone know what package I need to install in ubuntu to get gFTP to support https?? I get a "HTTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection." error but I've tried installing every ssl package I thought might help
[06:55] <JDahl> sjjubb1989, you can always use wget
[06:55] <sjjubb1989> computer_guru: thanks
[06:55] <Computer__Guru> sounds like the mime-handlers on their site are not setup right
[06:56] <sjjubb1989> computerguru, JDahl, i forgot i installed an ftp client on this yesterday
[06:56] <Computer__Guru> and it freezes linux because your browser is trying to display the contents of the file int he window
[06:56] <edamron> Okay I tried to install some packages with apt-get but got a checksum error or something.  Who do I report the problem to?  It was from the "Universe" I think.
[06:56] <JDahl> sjjubb1989, wget http://blabla from a terminal is pretty easy
[06:56] <jewel> iamdaone:  Typically it breaks more things than it fixes... it's a little to bleeding edge for anything but someone who either a) is developing it  or b) likes things to randomly break and fix them
[06:56] <concept10> iamdaone, jewel:  Upgrading to breezy is not recommended.  It could break your system
[06:56] <pinko> or, cUrl
[06:56] <iamdaone> thanks guys
[06:56] <iamdaone> i will wait until it is released
[06:57] <Computer__Guru> edamron: change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubunut.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:57] <JDahl> sjjubb1989, also, why are you downloading .debs manually?
[06:57] <Computer__Guru> then do an apt-get update and try again
[06:57] <sjjubb1989> JDahl: on aim.com
[06:57] <iamdaone> do you know how to stablize my NVIDIA drivers?  Its very strange, after watching a few DVD"s my official NVIDIA drivers go to hell and I get horrible performance
[06:57] <Computer__Guru> err archive.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <iamdaone> when I restart it
[06:57] <iamdaone> it works fine
[06:57] <sjjubb1989> JDahl, I am also using gaim, but i felt like putting aim oon too
[06:57] <iamdaone> thats the wierd part
[06:58] <jewel> iamdaone:  There will be a release candidate a couple of weeks before the real thing, it's a good time to switch because you can help work out any final bugs
[06:58] <Razor-X> sjjubb1989: I use TNT meself
[06:59] <concept10> iamdaone, run hdparm -d /dev/whatever dvd is
[06:59] <sjjubb1989> Razor-X: TNT?
[06:59] <Razor-X> sjjubb1989: yeah
[06:59] <Razor-X> emacs AIM client
[06:59] <edamron> Computer__Guru, Thanks!  I'll do that.
[06:59] <Razor-X> none of the curses-based ones work in any of emacs's terminal emulators -_-
[07:00] <jewel> signbarn:  What program are you using to record?
[07:00] <jewel> signbarn:  What sound card do you have?
[07:00] <fr500> concept10, he does not have bad dvd playback performance, he has bad performance after watching dvds
[07:01] <concept10> fr500, my bad performance is due to dma being off
[07:01] <mortarhate> does anyone else have problems with apt-get
[07:01] <mortarhate> it can't find anything
[07:01] <Razor-X> mortarhate: what are the problems?
[07:01] <concept10> iamdaone, is dma on or off??
[07:01] <mortarhate> even after i edit sources.list
[07:01] <HostingGeek> crimsun: Where Where Where? There is nothing like that in breezy
[07:01] <dougsk> mortarhate, md4sum mismatch?
[07:02] <mortarhate> mostly
[07:02] <mortarhate> and it cant "find" some packages
[07:02] <mortarhate> most*
[07:02] <fr500> concept10, dma off gives bad dvd playback, but doesnt slow down the pc after playing back has ended
[07:02] <crimsun> HostingGeek: if I told you, its existence wouldn't be much of an easter egg, would it?
[07:02] <mortarhate> and i edited it according to ubuntuguide.org
[07:02] <concept10> fr500, hmmm....
[07:02] <iamdaone> I don't know
[07:02] <concept10> !paste
[07:02] <ubotu> paste is probably ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[07:02] <dougsk> mortarhate, using the us mirror?  I'd suggest changing if so
[07:02] <mortarhate> yea i am
[07:02] <mortarhate> what mirror do you suggest?
[07:02] <concept10> mortarhate, paste your list there
[07:02] <HostingGeek> crimsun: Tell me! NOW!
[07:03] <mortarhate> it's long
[07:03] <dougsk> ca canada  for a start
[07:03] <mortarhate> its the list on ubuntuguide.org
[07:03] <signbarn> jewel: i'm using Sound Recorder
[07:03] <mortarhate> all of the mirrors are .us
[07:03] <mortarhate> universe/multi
[07:03] <fr500> well g2 work, have to setup hula for testing
[07:03] <mortarhate> etc...
[07:03] <fr500> cya
[07:03] <dougsk> mortarhate, the us mirror is out of sync
[07:03] <mortarhate> which mirror should i use?
[07:03] <mortarhate> i can't install anything ):
[07:03] <dougsk> just change th us. to ca. in sources list
[07:03] <mortarhate> canada?
[07:04] <iamdaone> how do I fix DMA?
[07:04] <mortarhate> groovy
[07:04] <jewel> signbarn:  try changing your device in the file menu of the mixer
[07:04] <jewel> signbarn:  to the alsa mixer
[07:04] <jewel> signbarn:  and then in the preferences turn on everything and fiddle around
[07:05] <jewel> signbarn:  For instance, sometimes there's something in the switch tab that makes all the difference
[07:05] <GigaClon> can someone recommend a IDE for C++ in linux?
[07:05] <signbarn> jewel: interesting. thanks. it seems i have to choose between capturing from line in or microphone. they can't both be on
[07:05] <mortarhate> let's see if that did the trick
[07:05] <concept10> iamdaone, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdwhateverdvdrom is
[07:05] <cmatheson> GigaClon: i hear great things about the kdevelop sweet
[07:05] <concept10> add sudo
[07:05] <mortarhate> i'm re-updating my pack's list
[07:05] <cmatheson> GigaClon: anjuta might be worth checking out... personally i'm all about vim
[07:05] <concept10> !repo
[07:05] <ubotu> concept10: Are you smoking crack?
[07:05] <concept10> !repositories
[07:05] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:06] <concept10> mortarhate, check that
[07:06] <mortarhate> ?
[07:06] <mortarhate> i just tried to install eterm, it didnt give me any errors but i still can't run it /:
[07:06] <mortarhate> nm
[07:06] <mortarhate> forgot to capitalize the E ;D
[07:06] <concept10> check this
[07:06] <concept10> !repositories
[07:06] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:06] <mortarhate> ohh
[07:06] <mortarhate> ok
[07:07] <mortarhate> dank
[07:07] <iamdaone> check
[07:07] <iamdaone> thanks guys
[07:07] <mortarhate> kynaptic will use the mirrors in sources.list right?
[07:07] <signbarn> jewel: i have a Sound Blaster Live! -- does that mean anything?
[07:08] <dougsk> mortarhate, afaik
[07:08] <mortarhate> afaik?
[07:08] <jewel> signbarn:  I think that's what I have too
[07:08] <jewel> !afaik
[07:08] <ubotu> jewel: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:08] <dougsk> as far as I know
[07:08] <mortarhate> i dont like acronyms
[07:08] <jewel> afaik is as far as i know
[07:08] <mortarhate> hehe
[07:08] <mortarhate> dank
[07:08] <jewel> ubotu: afaik is as far as i know
[07:08] <ubotu> jewel: okay
[07:08] <jewel> !afaik
[07:08] <mortarhate> we'll i'm about to find out i gues
[07:08] <concept10> ubotu, afaik is As far as I know
[07:08] <ubotu> ...but afaik is already something else...
[07:09] <jewel> ubotu hates us
[07:09] <ubotu> jewel: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:09] <mortarhate> it does...
[07:09] <omega||> anyone have any guides to advanced control of speedstep on centrino platforms?
[07:09] <jewel> see what I mean
[07:09] <concept10> ubotu forget afaik
[07:09] <ubotu> concept10: i forgot afaik
[07:09] <concept10> ubotu, afaik is As far as I know
[07:09] <ubotu> okay, concept10
[07:09] <mortarhate> i just refreshed my list and saw it downloading from ca...
[07:09] <mortarhate> instead of us.
[07:09] <mortarhate> you guys were very helpful ;P
[07:09] <concept10> omega||, http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/195910.htm?prn=Y
[07:09] <mortarhate> awesome os btw
[07:10] <crouton> does anybody have or recommend a wallpaper rotater for Gnome?
[07:10] <mgcross> hi all...quick question....I installed from cdrom, but now, for various reasons, I don't have a cd drive at the moment. I want to aptitude install some stuff, but it keeps asking for the cdrom...what line do I need to add to my sources.list file to stop this?
[07:11] <crouton> mgcross: You need to comment out the deb cdrom line.
[07:11] <jewel> mgcross:  You actually need to remove a line... the one referencing the cdrom
[07:11] <dougsk> mgcross comment out the cdrom entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <hyphenated> mgcross: you probably wan to remove a line
[07:11] <crouton> And probably uncomment the network sources, if you haven't already.
[07:12] <mgcross> crouton: thanks...do you mean something like wallpapoz gor your question?
[07:12] <jtan325> cmatheson, do you use a pager app with openbox?
[07:12] <rlared> hey all
[07:12] <rlared> has anyone tried both ubuntu and mepis?
[07:12] <crouton> mgcross: Something like that, but everything on GnomeFiles is either cryptic or requires some crazy packages that want to uninstall nearly everything.
[07:12] <dougsk> btw, afaik, ca and us are the same machine, but I've had luck with switching so I dunno
[07:12] <edamron> Does xchat keep a log of messages?  I got some advice and don't want to admit that I didn't write it down?  :-)
[07:13] <jewel> edamron:  It does, but you have to enable it
[07:13] <dougsk> edamron, not by default but you can change your preferences to
[07:13] <cmatheson> jtan325: i don't... i've thought about getting one
[07:13] <cmatheson> jtan325: but right now i generally know what's going on on my 4 desktops anyway
[07:13] <mgcross> crouton: hmmm...didn't have any problems getting wallpapoz up and running...check the forums...I belive I found a simple solution there
[07:13] <cmatheson> jtan325: there's a rad app bbpager that might work well though
[07:13] <crouton> ok
[07:14] <dougsk> maybe there is a gdesklet that does wallpaper changing?
[07:14] <dabaR> nalioths_dog: where is nalioth?
[07:14] <jtan325> cmatheson, bbpager complains "cannot connect to window manager"
[07:14] <jtan325> oh well
[07:15] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh really? that's kind of lame... i think there was one built into fbpanel... but i can't remember too clearly (i only checked it out for a minute, never used it extensively)
[07:16] <crouton> mgcross: wallpapoz doesn't support randomization yet. it's for multiple backgrounds for virtual desktops.
[07:16] <mgcross> crouton: thanks...worked great!
[07:16] <mgcross> crouton: sorry...wans't sure what you were looking for...
[07:16] <edamron> What am I suppose to change us.archive.ubuntu.com to in the /etc/apt/sources-list file?
[07:16] <nxvl> why i can't use Breezy yet?
[07:17] <mgcross> nxvl: cause it's half baked :-)
[07:17] <concept10> nxvl, do you want a broken system
[07:17] <Ninwa> I do I do!
[07:17] <mgcross> lol
[07:17] <nxvl> when is becoming stable
[07:17] <signbarn> nxvl: you can't expect troubleshooting for breezy yet.
[07:17] <nxvl> i have use debian SID for long time
[07:17] <jewel> http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[07:18] <mgcross> nxvl: no one said you could'nt...just be ready for some gottchas
[07:18] <Ninwa> nxvl, October
[07:18] <crouton> mgcross: np
[07:19] <concept10> j/k
[07:19] <mgcross> concept10: AHAHAHAHAHA!
[07:20] <concept10> I would do it on my other box just to see what happened but I dont want to have to resinstall wireless
[07:21] <crouton> concept10: ugh. :(
[07:21] <concept10> whats the max length that you can run cat 5 cable?
[07:22] <jewel> concept10:  300M
[07:22] <jewel> concept10:  I think... one second
[07:22] <jasmuz> concept10: you mean what is the max length before data loss?
[07:22] <dougsk> oops I was wrong the us and ca boxes appear to be different.
[07:22] <concept10> jasmuz, yes
[07:22] <signbarn> jewel: i finally got my mic to work! thanks for the help! :-) i had to turn up the In-gain on the OSS Mixer
[07:24] <dougsk> concept10, jewel, yeah 100M ~300ft
[07:24] <concept10> dougsk, thanks
[07:24] <dougsk> although I've ran it much longer
[07:24] <dougsk> concept10, no worries
[07:27] <HostingGeek> I am sponsoring everyone here one of these keyboards http://www.maltron.com/images/keyboards/j91-keyboard-front1-600.jpg just /msg me your address and they will be on the way to your home
[07:27] <holycow> you shouldn't be getting data loss at 300 ft tho, thats a spec thats usually a delineation well before you get data loss
[07:27] <holycow> however
[07:27] <signbarn> So apparently my gaim is outdated -- should i expect an ubuntu update? or should i update it on my own?
[07:27] <harris|u> Is there any way to force this error:
[07:27] <harris|u> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb
[07:27] <harris|u>   MD5Sum mismatch
[07:27] <holycow> it is a spec and thats stated conservatively for a reason
[07:28] <holycow> its a very good idea to follow it or else be fishing cable out behind drywaall and ceiling fixtures later
[07:28] <concept10> I wish I had one of those fishing poles for cables
[07:29] <adfaf> is there a site that can host a screenshot
[07:29] <signbarn> so to update gaim, should i alien an rpm from their site?
[07:29] <cmatheson> adfaf: just run your own apache server?
[07:29] <jewel_> adfaf: It seems that deviantart does... not sure if it's open to anyone though
[07:29] <adfaf> its just one screenshot
[07:29] <harris|u> adfaf, you can try www.wtfhacks.com/upload
[07:30] <jasoncohen> signbarn, huh, you can get gaim 1.4 from hoary-backports
[07:30] <signbarn> jasoncohen: oh cool! thanks
[07:30] <dougsk> adfaf, imageshack is popular
[07:30] <jasoncohen> signbarn, why do you need the latest version of gaim?
[07:30] <nicole> i dont
[07:30] <jasoncohen> signbarn, gaim 1.1.4 in hoary receives timely security updtes
[07:30] <jasoncohen> *updates
[07:30] <nicole> no
[07:30] <jasoncohen> nicole, ?
[07:31] <signbarn> jasoncohen:  the yahoo profiles changed.
[07:31] <nicole> ok
[07:31] <jasoncohen> ah, so use backports
[07:31] <signbarn> jasoncohen: that's really the only thing -- otherwise everything's great
[07:31] <jasoncohen> i'm using 1.4 from backports-
[07:31] <cyphase> why doesn't firefox have sound in ubuntu?
[07:32] <pepsix> why would you want firefox to make noise anyhow? ;P
[07:32] <holycow> firefox doesn't do sound and media
[07:32] <holycow> you mean flash?
[07:32] <harris|u> is there any way to force the download of a package with md5sum mismatches?
[07:32] <jasoncohen> cyphase, what do you mean- firefox or firefox plugins like mozilla-firefox and flash
[07:32] <cyphase> both
[07:33] <holycow> not both
[07:33] <holycow> firefox doesn't do sound and media
[07:33] <holycow> plugins only
[07:33] <cyphase> i know
[07:33] <jewel_> harris|u:  You probably don't want to... that means something is out of sync
[07:33] <pepsix> harris|u, use a different repository
[07:33] <cyphase> but it's not even doing click sounds
[07:33] <cyphase> lol
[07:33] <pepsix> lol
[07:33] <cyphase> and flash isn;t working
[07:33] <pepsix> click sounds are evil-ness
[07:33] <cyphase> isn't*
[07:33] <cyphase> well, sound
[07:33] <holycow> what click sounds?
[07:33] <holycow> what makes click soundsZ?
[07:33] <cyphase> forget that
[07:33] <holycow> -z
[07:34] <pepsix> holycow, IE style ;D
[07:34] <cyphase> flash sound isn't working
[07:34] <cyphase> lol
[07:34] <harris|u> hmm -- well I'm trying to get vlc but I get: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:34] <pepsix> did you get flash tow ork at all?
[07:34] <cyphase> yes..
[07:34] <holycow> cyphase, how did you install flash, out of curiosity?
[07:34] <pepsix> harris|u, remove the 'us.' from all your repositories
[07:34] <cyphase> holycow, synaptic
[07:34] <harris|u> pepsix, okay
[07:34] <cyphase> apt-get, whatever
[07:34] <holycow> *hmmm* thats weird, it's always worked
[07:35] <holycow> which one? there are two
[07:35] <cyphase> yea
[07:35] <cyphase> uhh..
[07:35] <mortarhate> take out .us and replace with .ca
[07:35] <mortarhate> works good that way ;)
[07:35] <cyphase> flashplayer-mozilla
[07:35] <cyphase> do i need to use non-free?
[07:36] <holycow> i would try that first
[07:36] <cyphase> k
[07:36] <jewel_> cyphase:  Usually, yes.
[07:36] <holycow> i've heard of this problem, but i cannot remember the solution offhand
[07:37] <Mircosoft> Ahh the good old nick
[07:37] <crossbar> can someone tell me the name of the wmv codex in the repository?
[07:38] <mortarhate> i just had it
[07:38] <mortarhate> hold on
[07:38] <crossbar> awesome
[07:38] <dougsk> !restricedformats
[07:38] <ubotu> dougsk: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:38] <dougsk> !restrictedformats
[07:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs
[07:38] <mortarhate> i think its w32codecs
[07:39] <Computer__Guru> w32codecs has no installationc andidate
[07:39] <hyapadi> some of firmwire update such as optical drives ( dvdrom dvdwriter, etc ) requires m$ windows in order to run. But i'm using ubuntu now. Is there any other solution instead installing windows ?
[07:39] <mortarhate> it worked for me
[07:39] <Miks> anybody knows how can i change the color of the panel fonts?
[07:39] <mortarhate> using the .ca repository
[07:39] <cyphase> nope
[07:39] <cyphase> didn't work
[07:39] <cyphase> *sigh*
[07:39] <dougsk> Computer__Guru, I think it's part of the unofficial hoary extras repo
[07:42] <dougsk> cyphase, flashplayer-mozilla restart mozilla try out my favorite flash video: http://load.pquinn.com/binaries/fries/
[07:42] <dougsk> oops restart fiefox
[07:43] <dougsk> cyphase, we're under the assumption that sound does work right?
[07:43] <cyphase> in flash, yes
[07:43] <cyphase> everything else works
[07:44] <crossbar> whats the name of the canadian repository?
[07:44] <crimsun> crossbar: ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <crossbar> thanks
[07:45] <mokuias> Hey all :-)
[07:47] <mokuias> Anyone awake?
[07:48] <cyphase> yes
[07:48] <mokuias> Finally
[07:49] <mokuias> I was beginning to wonder where everyone had disappeared to =P
[07:49] <anacron> coffee break
[07:49] <Varanger> sleeping
[07:49] <mokuias> Now it all makes sense... ;-)
[07:49] <Madpilot> playing GnomeMines
[07:49] <Varanger> building Breezy
[07:50] <anacron> im at work, but there's only two guys here :D
[07:50] <mokuias> seen the new msn spaces logo?
[07:50] <anacron> nope
[07:50] <anacron> what's that
[07:50] <Madpilot> is that the one that rips off U's circle?
[07:50] <mokuias> almost identicle to that of ubuntu
[07:50] <mokuias> yep
[07:50] <anacron> :D
[07:51] <mokuias> http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/20
[07:51] <anacron> microsoft strikes back!
 all your base are belong to us
[07:52] <crossbar> hm that doesnt work in my repository :\
[07:52] <mokuias> lol
[07:52] <Madpilot> http://barstool.techtoucian.net/fishy.png
[07:53] <trinidad> how do i shutdown x to install the nvidia driver?
[07:53] <Madpilot> someone actually logged on here w/ "Microsoft" as a nick? Brave of them... :)
[07:53] <bienve> Madpilot :D
[07:54] <mokuias> http://barstool.techtoucian.net/fishy.png <- my friend's work
[07:54] <mokuias> Wombat is mine
[07:54] <mokuias> :)
[07:54] <bienve> sorry hablo espaol
[07:54] <bienve> XD
[07:54] <bienve> speak spanish xD
[07:54] <crossbar> do i need to put anything after that in the list file?
[07:54] <crossbar> erk
[07:55] <mokuias> so you guys all ubuntu users naturally, huh?
[07:55] <bienve> mokuias is good image :D
[07:56] <bienve> no much speak english :p
[07:56] <Hieronymus> bienve: #ubuntu-es
[07:56] <bienve> Hieronymus 
[07:56] <bienve> me ere the channels :D
[07:56] <bienve> bienve on #ubuntu #ubuntu-es
[07:56] <bienve> :=)
[07:57] <Madpilot> mokuias: been using U for almost 3 months. 98 & XP before that... never going back, tho! :)
[07:57] <mokuias> hehe
[07:57] <mokuias> I'm a Suse user m'self
[07:57] <trinidad> HELP!!  ....how do i shutdown x to install the nvidia driver?
[07:58] <jewel_> Triffid_Hunter:  Have you already run sudo nvidia-config
[07:58] <jewel_> err
[07:58] <cmatheson> trinidad: ctrl+alt+bcksp
[07:58] <jewel_> trinidad:  Have you already run 'sudo nvidia-config' ?
[07:58] <Hieronymus> cmatheson: won't that just restart gdm?
[07:58] <JDahl> trinidad, you dont need to shutdown X to install new drivers, but to restart X you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:58] <dougsk> trinidad, the order of operations are: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then sudo nvidia-glx enable then save all your work then ctrl-alt-bkspc
[07:59] <cmatheson> Hieronymus: that kills the x server... gdm will restart
[07:59] <cmatheson> Hieronymus: i guess if he wanted a console he could just hit ctrl+alt+f1
[07:59] <mokuias> trinidad - use ctrl+alt+delete
[07:59] <mokuias> :P
[08:00] <JDahl> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:00] <JDahl> you guys are thinking of how to reboot your windows machines
[08:00] <jewel_> JDahl:  That's how you kill x
[08:00] <Hieronymus> JDahl: ctrl-alt-backspace kills the Xserver. Very usefull
[08:00] <jewel_> JDahl:  Try it... :D
[08:00] <Hieronymus> if something freezes, it can often be helped by killing X
[08:00] <JDahl> just people keep yapping about ctrl-alt-delete
[08:01] <Hieronymus> and I don't even own a windows machine :/
[08:01] <reval> hi =
[08:01] <reval> )
[08:01] <Hieronymus> hello
[08:01] <JDahl> it's ctrl-alt-backspace, not ctrl-alt-delete, that's what I meant
[08:01] <reval> was just hoping for the link to the website in ubuntu where I can figure out how to install nvidia drivers,heh
[08:02] <crimsun> reval: wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <jewel_> !nvidia
[08:02] <Hieronymus> reval: try searching the wiki
[08:02] <HrdwrBoB> reval: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <reval> I just reformatted my hdd, so don't have it saved on desktop anymore.
[08:02] <reval> thanks =)
[08:03] <mokuias> init 5 restarts x right?
[08:03] <light_punch2> where's the package list for ubuntu?
[08:03] <crimsun> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:03] <JDahl> mokuias, yes, but it might do more depending on the init scripts
[08:04] <GigaClon> is there a there a Gnome vs KDE comparison somewhere?
[08:04] <mokuias> GigaClon - why do you want such a thing?
[08:04] <Madpilot> !packages
[08:04] <ubotu> hmm... packages is http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:04] <mokuias> it'll be biased most likely...
[08:04] <Madpilot> ok, that does work. good bot.
[08:05] <GigaClon> ok another question then, how to you install KDE for ubuntu
[08:05] <sky_monkey007> does anyone why rpm --rebuild does not work in SuSE 9.1
[08:05] <JDahl> GigaClon, install kubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <light_punch2> ubotu, thx
[08:05] <ubotu> I don't know, light_punch2
[08:06] <Hieronymus> sky_monkey007: Might be the wrong place to ask
[08:06] <sky_monkey007> oops, sorry :)
[08:06] <sky_monkey007> wrong window
[08:06] <Madpilot> light_punch2: ubotu is a bot, not actually a person... :)
[08:06] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:06] <ubotu> methinks ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[08:07] <Hieronymus> light_punch2: if you think he's nice, you can say !good bot
[08:07] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[08:07] <ubotu> :)
[08:07] <rendi> !ping me
[08:07] <ubotu> rendi: I give up, what is it?
[08:07] <GigaClon> ubotu, rpm is alien -d /path/to/rpm
[08:07] <ubotu> GigaClon: okay
[08:08] <mokuias> !good bot
[08:08] <ubotu> thanks mokuias :)
[08:08] <mokuias> just for the hell of it
[08:08] <light_punch2> Madpilot, ic, i wasn't paying attention
[08:08] <Madpilot> another round of playing with the bot... :)
[08:08] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: -d is the default
[08:08] <Hieronymus> !forget rpm
[08:08] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot rpm
[08:08] <Hieronymus> !rpm is alien /path/to/rpm
[08:08] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[08:09] <GigaClon> maybe not a comparison of the two, but a side by side list of features
[08:09] <GigaClon> objective comparison
[08:10] <GigaClon> is there a better text editor than gedit
[08:10] <blmartin777> can I apt-get amule I can't find it?
[08:10] <GigaClon> some thing like TextPad for Windows
[08:11] <JeanPierre> hello people
[08:11] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: some say vi is the best, others say emacs is better
[08:11] <GigaClon> hi JeanPierre
[08:11] <dougsk> GigaClon, I don't know what textpad is, but some people like jedit, emacs, or vim
[08:11] <JeanPierre> I wonder if you could help with a little problem I have with my DVD playback
[08:11] <JeanPierre> it plays but stops every second or so
[08:12] <jewel_> GigaClon:  What sort of features are you looking for specifically?
[08:12] <dougsk> GigaClon, I've tend to use fte
[08:12] <crossbar> bots are people too.
[08:13] <JDahl> Is Canonical making progress on the python scripting framework for Gnome tools (cf. the "python scripting everywhere" bounty)? That would be very useful...
[08:13] <Hieronymus> JDahl: maybe you should see the bounty page
[08:13] <Hieronymus> !wiki bounties
[08:13] <dougsk> JDahl, I've wondered to.  especially with sabayon etc getting some steam
[08:13] <jasoncohen> is network-manager going to remain in universe? i thought it was going to be included in main in breezy?
[08:13] <JDahl> Hieronymus, duh - I linked to it!
[08:13] <GigaClon> I notice when I double click txt files it replaces the one I have open
[08:13] <JDahl> JDahl, er... cf.'ed to it
[08:14] <dougsk> jasoncohen, there are some posts in ubuntu-dev related to that
[08:14] <Hieronymus> cd.'ed ?
[08:14] <Hieronymus> cf.'ed?
[08:14] <jasoncohen> dougsk, do you happen to have a link?
[08:14] <GigaClon> mainly, tabs with documents, Find in Files..
[08:14] <dougsk> jasoncohen, not off hand
[08:14] <JDahl> dougsk, I'm interested in scripting for Gnumeric, and they have the same problem, namely that their Python interface is not quite good enough
[08:15] <harris|u> Can someone help me with apache? People can't connect to the IP for some reason and I don't see why unless the port is being blocked by default or something
[08:16] <dougsk> JDahl, wow, right on. sounds interesting. dunno, tbh
[08:16] <JeanPierre> maybe your port is being filtered
[08:16] <JeanPierre> check your iptables rules with iptables -n -L -v
[08:16] <JeanPierre> more documentation on www.iptables.org
[08:17] <harris|u> hmokay thanks
[08:17] <jewel_> harris|u:  Are these other people on your local LAN or on the Internet?
[08:17] <jewel_> harris|u:  How are you connected to the internet?
[08:17] <harris|u> the internet
[08:17] <harris|u> dsl modem
[08:18] <calamari> hi
[08:18] <anacron> harris|u: do you have a router or some other firewalls?
[08:18] <harris|u> no
[08:18] <jewel_> harris|u:  Are you connected directly to the modem or do you have a router?
[08:18] <harris|u> direct
[08:18] <jewel_> harris|u:  Some ISPs filter port 80
[08:19] <jewel_> harris|u:  Try switching to a different port and see if that helps
[08:19] <harris|u> okay
[08:19] <anacron> harris|u: how you'r friends are trying to access your page?
[08:20] <zeeble> hi. is there a way to netinstall hoary?
[08:20] <harris|u> anacron, through firefox / the internet? I don't really know how to answer that
[08:20] <jewel_> harris|u:  You might already know this, but then your friends will have to specify the other port... i.e. http://ip:port/
[08:20] <reval> I'm trying to install cadega, but it doesn't match my amd64 architecture =/ is there a way I can get it to work without going too crazy?
[08:20] <zeeble> or some way to get started with a minimal CD image/
[08:20] <crimsun> zeeble: yes, you can use the netboot diskettes to get started.
[08:20] <zeeble> crimsun: diskettes? floppy images or CDs?
[08:20] <anacron> harris|u: i mean is their address correct, like http://your_ip nothing like www.ip.com etc
[08:21] <crimsun> zeeble: diskettes
[08:21] <harris|u> anacron, Oh, yes
[08:21] <zeeble> crimsun: :( no floppies on laptop
[08:21] <crimsun> zeeble: nothing stopping you from burning it to cd, of course
[08:21] <rob^> reval, have you tried this?
[08:21] <rob^> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[08:21] <zeeble> crimsun: well, it has to boot from there, right?
[08:21] <crimsun> zeeble: it has to boot from a device, yes
[08:21] <reval> is there any way I can get 64 bit arcitecture to work with 86 programs easily?
[08:21] <zeeble> lemme check.
[08:21] <reval> aah, sorry
[08:21] <reval> thanks rob, will check it out
[08:22] <rob^> np
[08:23] <rob^> !cedega
[08:23] <ubotu> rob^: Are you smoking crack?
[08:23] <anacron> harris|u: then i don't know what could possibly be wrong, except that port and maybe user access? (read and execute)
[08:23] <rob^> ubotu cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[08:23] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[08:24] <nomasteryoda> just played my first game of bzflag on hoary... on an old 750mhz dell dimension... works pretty sweet
[08:24] <harris|u> anacron, are you referring to port 78 or 80
[08:24] <nomasteryoda> and it was an ati card
[08:24] <nomasteryoda> er, is
[08:24] <anacron> harris|u: i would use 80, but you just have to try which one works
[08:25] <harris|u> anacron, can I PM you quickly?
[08:25] <anacron> harris|u: i don't think i can help you anymore
[08:25] <vulcanoo> hello good morning
[08:26] <vulcanoo> i have a trouble with my display under kubuntu
[08:26] <anacron> harris|u: but sure you can if you wan't to :D
[08:26] <vulcanoo> i have on only one choice 640X480
[08:26] <anacron> vulcanoo: #kubuntu
[08:27] <vulcanoo> ok anacron but but i have same problem with uubuntu
[08:27] <reval> rob: it says it can't find package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev.  was there a typo in that, or is there a different problem?
[08:28] <reval> what I did was copy/pasted what they said debian users can do, since they didn't put it as separate commands, I did it all as one command, is that right?
[08:28] <vulcanoo> how can i have a display 800X600?
[08:33] <spermie_411> do any of you use Synaptics? is so where do i go to enable  multiverse ??
[08:33] <pax> !resolution
[08:33] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:33] <skyboy> hi everyone
[08:42] <skyboy> does anybody know any soft I could use to monitor connection to my box, telling who (IP) is connected and what it's using ??
[08:50] <reval> does anyone know where the package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev is, or if the server it's on is currently down?
[08:50] <rob^> blah
[08:50] <rob^> there has been problems with the repos the last few days
[08:50] <rob^> and we're back..
[08:50] <Razor-X> netstat
[08:51] <Sp33dy2> Hey all.  I'm seeing something strange -- I've compiled my own kernel and my IDE drive does not show up in /dev , though the kernel does recognize it has hda, etc.  Could this ben an issue with hotplug / HAL ?
[08:51] <bungopolis> what happened to the check-email applet in ubuntu's gnome?
[08:52] <rob^> bugger.. that server has some problems
[08:52] <kjon> Hello there. Does anybody know a program to monitor the ink levels of a epson printer?
[08:52] <kjon> Hello there. Does anybody know a program to monitor the ink levels of a epson printer?
[08:52] <Razor-X> kjon: ahhh, I wish I knew
[08:52] <Razor-X> it would help me a lot
[08:52] <kjon> T-T
[08:53] <Razor-X> and, no need to reiterate your question, someone will answer it, if no-one does, no-one knows the answer
[08:53] <Razor-X> you can try a google search though, of course
[08:53] <kjon> Sorry Razor, I didn't on purpose.
[08:53] <cyphase> What's up with FreeNode?
[08:53] <kjon> I though none read my question due the flood.
[08:54] <Razor-X> cyphase: netsplit-o-rama
[08:54] <kjon> I had to switch servers. Freenode is working like the ....
[08:54] <reval> I'm repeatedly getting problems trying to install something with it saying that Imy packaget architecture (i386) doesn't match sy stem (amd64).  is there a fix to this?  I just installed linux on this computer, heh
[08:55] <kjon> And another question. Is openoffice 1.9 rock solid? I mean, I tried to open a MSWord XP document and ooo writer just got frozen.
[08:55] <Razor-X> reval: you know what architecture is?
[08:55] <Razor-X> kjon: it generally is
[08:55] <Razor-X> I haven't had trouble with it, then again, nowadays I use LaTeX
[08:56] <kjon> LaTeX. I've heard of it, but I never used it. What can you tell me about it?
[08:56] <cyphase> which theme do you guys use?
[08:56] <kjon> I'm new on this thing of ubuntu.
[08:56] <reval> Razor-x: from my understanding, architecture is basically the processor format
[08:56] <reval> Razor-x: but it's always been sort of reverse compatible =/
[08:56] <Razor-X> reval: then what do you think the error is?
[08:57] <Razor-X> kjon: it's beautiful ;)
[08:57] <Razor-X> reval: only if you create a 32 bit chroot (I don't know how to do that, many do though)
[08:57] <Razor-X> kjon: it's typesetting using a pseudo-programming-language
[08:58] <Razor-X> documents come out rendered beautifully, and math typesetting is a breeze
[08:58] <kjon> Well, Actually I'm missing a lot a tool like Mathtype.
[08:58] <kjon> So I guess I've to give it a try.
[08:58] <Razor-X> LaTeX is one of the best-ways to create Math Typesetting
[08:59] <Razor-X> http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/problem01.pdf
[08:59] <Razor-X> that's an example... and a problem I still haven't solved
[08:59] <reval> Razor-x: well, I'll try to find a solution, heh =)
[09:00] <Razor-X> reval: if you do, i'll thank you :)
[09:00] <Razor-X> my answer book hasn't been ordered yet
[09:00] <Razor-X> and, if you're interested in learning LaTeX quickly, google lshort.pdf, and read it
[09:00] <kjon> Razor-x: I know that font.... That might explain why all the guides of my teacher were all the same...
[09:01] <Razor-X> if you want to have a thorough study though, then get LaTeX: A document Preparation System and the LaTeX Companion
[09:01] <kjon> mhh... pseudo-programming-stuff... ok, I'll install it.
[09:02] <Razor-X> kjon: heh, maybe that's why
[09:02] <Razor-X> kjon: sudo aptitude install latex
[09:02] <Razor-X> or, substitude apt-get for aptitude
[09:02] <kjon> okay, thx!
[09:02] <Razor-X> !info aptitude
[09:02] <Seveas> Razor-X, tetex, not latex :)
[09:02] <Razor-X> gah!
[09:02] <Seveas> the bot is at the other side of the split :)
[09:02] <Razor-X> Seveas: ohh.... been a while... ;)
[09:02] <Razor-X> yeah, I thought so
[09:02] <kjon> ' whatever...
[09:02] <Razor-X> thank god for erc's automatic netsplit management
[09:03] <Razor-X> or... were we splitted?
[09:03] <Razor-X> and, the rest of them are in the main channel?
[09:03] <Razor-X> ;0
[09:03] <Razor-X> *;)
[09:03] <Seveas> :)
[09:03] <Seveas> hi mako
[09:03] <kjon> And another question. It looks like a cosmetic bug, but I'm not sure. Is possible to print odd or even pages in ooo with a single command?
[09:04] <kjon> without writing in page's box something like: 1'3'5'7...
[09:04] <Razor-X> kjon: in KPDF, you can
[09:05] <liable> is there a few probs with freenode at the mo?
[09:05] <Razor-X> but, that comes with KDE, not sure about XPDF (they render the same)
[09:05] <Razor-X> wow, this is crazy ;)
[09:05] <liable> hah, I take that as a yes.
[09:05] <kjon> kpdf??? Sounds like a pdf app. for kde... Am I wrong?
[09:05] <Razor-X> yes, yes it is
[09:05] <blrich> can someone tell me to install a .deb package from just a .deb file?
[09:05] <reval> Razor-X: I know this is a newby question, but how do I get all the stuff I'd want in terms of patches?  to makes ure I have everything I should have
[09:06] <kjon> blrich: dpkg -i "foo".deb
[09:06] <liable> blrich: dpkg -i foo
[09:06] <Razor-X> reval: hmmmm?
[09:06] <blrich> liable, kjon thanks=)
[09:06] <Razor-X> what do you mean by patches?
[09:06] <cyphase> which theme do you guys use?
[09:06] <reval> Razor-X: it's the synaptic package manager, right?
[09:06] <kjon> you're welcome ^^!
[09:06] <cyphase> wow
[09:06] <cyphase> net merge
[09:06] <Razor-X> reval: depends if you want to use synaptic (which is a frontend for the terminal apt-get) or apt-get (or aptitude)
[09:06] <Hieronymus> shocking! 22 people were left :D
[09:07] <Amaranth> of course, i'd have to get my linux HD working before i could use it again...
[09:07] <Razor-X> Amaranth: how does it render?
[09:07] <reval> Razor-X: I'll try the synaptic and if it somehow messes things up I'll just install a lower version of linux so I can run the programs I want to run, heh
[09:07] <calamari_> hi
[09:07] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Better than x/g/kpdf, from what i've seen
[09:07] <kjon> And finally, I'm writing from Chile, so I wan't to ask my last question. Time here is 03'07 am and I wanna go "tuto" (sleep)...
[09:07] <Amaranth> kpdf and gpdf are just xpdf integrated with KDE and GNOME, afaik
[09:08] <Razor-X> Amaranth: lemme check it out
[09:08] <kjon> Is there any app like fineprint in the linux world??? (please... say yes!!! :( )
[09:08] <calamari_> okay, I have my two Ubuntu machines networked.  How can I access the /dev/hda1 device on the laptop from my main system?
[09:08] <Razor-X> Amaranth: ahhh, Gnome uses GPDF?
[09:08] <Razor-X> KPDF uses its own rendering engine
[09:08] <Amaranth> Razor-X: If it's even in hoary it's going to be crap
[09:08] <Amaranth> Razor-X: No way.
[09:08] <Razor-X> yeah, it does
[09:08] <Razor-X> made custom from the ground-up
[09:08] <Razor-X> that's why it has some renderin differences from XPDF
[09:09] <nothingmuch> can anyone reccomend a laptop-environment config switching thingamabob?
[09:09] <blrich> hey anyone know where to get that ubuntu backgorund image of a somewhat naked black woman? it caused "shockwaves of shock" when it was released apparently and now i can't find the image anywhere on the net/
[09:09] <Hieronymus> blrich: ubuntu-calendar
[09:09] <Hieronymus> !info ubuntu-calendar
[09:09] <ubotu> ubuntu-calendar: (The Ubuntu Calendar features monthly updated artwork and themes), section gnome, is optional. Version: 5.03-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[09:09] <blrich> Hieronymus, thanks
[09:10] <blrich> Hieronymus, where does it put the images?
[09:10] <Hieronymus> I think in /usr/share/backgrounds
[09:10] <Hieronymus> Hieronymus: I think the woman is -march
[09:10] <Hieronymus> !info ubuntu-calendar-march
[09:10] <ubotu> ubuntu-calendar-march: (Ubuntu calendar artwork for March), section gnome, is optional. Version: 5.03 (hoary), Packaged size: 355 kB, Installed size: 540 kB
[09:10] <kjon> I'm leaving now. Thx Razor-X for your patience...
[09:10] <kjon> Bye peopla.
[09:11] <Razor-X> evince... lemme check it out
[09:12] <Madpilot> so what's up with freenode tonight?
[09:13] <Hieronymus> Madpilot: some server(s) are not functioning alright, it seems
[09:13] <Razor-X> Hieronymus: that's an understatement
[09:13] <blrich> Hieronymus, hmm, just has two backgrounds in there, the ones currently in the backgrounds list - blue sparkly one with hands, and a brown one
[09:13] <Hieronymus> blrich: you need to download the individual -month packages
[09:13] <Hieronymus> ubuntu-calendar-march for example
[09:13] <Hieronymus> Better put these around Freenode: http://webshop.overtoom.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/OIN/nl_NL/-/EUR/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=bHsytOQjBbIymabxefY4u-I37N3YhSsg8ns=?ProductSKU=05756275
[09:14] <Madpilot> been dropped three times now, which is a personal record...
[09:14] <Hieronymus> Madpilot: in a row?
[09:15] <Madpilot> well, in the last hour or 45min.
[09:15] <Madpilot> and there's only (only...) 295 ppl here; usually nr. 400 or more...
[09:17] <Razor-X> my sources.list is huge ;0
[09:17] <Razor-X> *;)
[09:17] <unknown> i got a question.
[09:17] <unknown> does Ubuntu support this video card
[09:18] <moreno> knkn
[09:18] <blrich> Hieronymus, ah, fantastic, nudity is now a part of my computer once again =D  the question is, where's the pic of the black girl looking serious with the frame cut off slightly below her shoulder blades? oh well, i'lkl settle for the one of her stretching
[09:18] <unknown> Diamon S80 128 MB DDR Radeon 9200
[09:18] <unknown> ?
[09:18] <blrich> therei is no corrolation
[09:18] <cafuego> unknown: Yes
[09:18] <unknown> really?
[09:18] <bob2> er
[09:18] <cafuego> unknown: Yes, fully supported.
[09:18] <bob2> try to keep it on-topic, folks
[09:18] <unknown> slackware didnt support that
[09:19] <unknown> nice...
[09:19] <Hieronymus> blrich: I don't know, just install them all and searcht the /usr/share/backgrounds directory
[09:19] <unknown> what sound engine?
[09:19] <unknown> ALSA?
[09:19] <cafuego> the question is, where's the pic of the bob2 looking serious with the frame cut off slightly below his shoulder blades?
[09:19] <unknown> i'm getting my info up2date:)
[09:19] <blrich> Hieronymus, done, it's all good, i have my daily dose of hot naked black women now, it's all fine =)
[09:19] <cafuego> unknown: 2.6 kernels tend to use alsa, yes.
[09:19] <bob2> cafuego: google, dude ;p
[09:20] <cafuego> bob2: Oh sorry, I had content filtering enabled
[09:20] <bob2> hahaha
[09:20] <unknown> so is KDE included in the free cds?
[09:20] <unknown> or do i need apt that
[09:20] <cafuego> if there's too much untanned white, it gets blocked
[09:20] <bob2> unknown: not from shipit, no
[09:21] <cafuego> unknown: probably apt; or if you can download, try Kubuntu.
[09:21] <unknown> oh is there an apt database?
[09:21] <unknown> im used to freebsd
[09:21] <unknown> sorry if im bothering
[09:21] <unknown> :)
[09:21] <unknown> 16 yearolds need knowledge
[09:21] <bob2> cafuego: my hair is tanned at least
[09:21] <Razor-X> Amaranth: I can't see a difference between evince and XPDF
[09:21] <Razor-X> *KPDF
[09:21] <Razor-X> unknown: and 15 year-olds provide too ;)
[09:22] <bob2> one is the future of pdf viewing, one is not
[09:22] <unknown> ur 15?
[09:22] <Razor-X> yeah
[09:22] <blrich> can anyone tell me - what's the package for the latest dev version of the ubuntu 2.6 kernel? so i can fold some drivers into it and compile them in
[09:22] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Probably because KPDF switched to using poppler, which evince uses too.
[09:22] <unknown> wat programming language?
[09:22] <cafuego> bob2: Your hair is the future of pdf viewing?
[09:22] <rendi> my HD 4 Gb and i partisi 2 for xp and 2 for ubuntu, this mornig i'm reinstal xp, but i can't see my box ?? any one help me ??
[09:22] <Razor-X> Kubuntu comes with KDE, and a host of applications meant for KDE
[09:22] <Amaranth> Razor-X: I knew they were planning on doing it, didn't think it happened already.
[09:22] <Razor-X> Amaranth: did it?
[09:22] <Razor-X> i'll uninstall the 40 MB then ;)
[09:22] <cafuego> unknown: apt database?
[09:22] <rendi> anyone get my ubuntu back without reinstall it ??
[09:23] <unknown> yeah so i can see whats to install, or like rpmfinder
[09:23] <Amaranth> Razor-X: It's either using XPDF or libpoppler
[09:23] <rendi> my grub lost too
[09:23] <bob2> blrich: it depends what you're trying to do, exactly
[09:23] <cafuego> unknown: After installation, 'apt-cache search <string>'
[09:23] <unknown> oh cool
[09:23] <unknown> razor-x do you program?
[09:23] <cafuego> !dstats hoary
[09:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[09:23] <Razor-X> unknown: used to, my knowledge has deteriorated over time
[09:24] <unknown> what did you know?
[09:24] <cafuego> unknown: 31GB of stuff, lots of apckages...
[09:24] <unknown> woah
[09:24] <Razor-X> QB and C++ were my main, with some C# I learned recently
[09:24] <unknown> more than slackware
[09:24] <blrich> bob2 trying to get madwifi drivers working to get my netgear wireless card working. have the drivers, but they're in code form - i have to put them into a 2.6 kernel tree and compile the kernel, i presume. so, i need the code for the latest ubuntu kernel
[09:24] <unknown> how much C++
[09:24] <cafuego> unknown: yeah, it's doubtful you'll need anything that's not already available.
[09:24] <Razor-X> not all that much, C++ console, and C++ with OpenGL for non-console stuff
[09:24] <bob2> blrich: you're sure the ubuntu madwifi drivers won't work?
[09:24] <unknown> :)I know a lot of C++
[09:25] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Looks like KPDF is still using XPDF.
[09:25] <unknown> Assembly, PHP, VB, Delphi
[09:25] <unknown> and remember i'm 16;)
[09:25] <unknown> hahaa
[09:25] <cafuego> Evince had major issues printing last week.
[09:25] <rendi> !grub
[09:25] <Razor-X> but, like I said, my knowledge has atrophied as I haven't programmed in a while
[09:25] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[09:25] <Amaranth> Razor-X: poppler is XPDF turned into a library with enhancements
[09:25] <unknown> mov ebx,'h'
[09:25] <Razor-X> Amaranth: I thought KPDF had its own rendering engine *shrugs*
[09:25] <unknown> i don't kno assembly well enough to program in it nemore
[09:25] <Razor-X> unknown: ;)
[09:25] <unknown> just crack
[09:25] <unknown> :-d
[09:25] <blrich> bob2, i can't get them, i type in apt-cache search madwifi and it comes up with the 'restricted modules' packages. i installed one, reset, etc, wifi card still won't work. don't know the name of the driver to modprobe even
[09:25] <Razor-X> yes, and a _bit_ of ASM
[09:25] <unknown> cracking programs is fun
[09:26] <Razor-X> from the excellent book, Art of Assembly
[09:26] <unknown> lol i read it
[09:26] <bob2> blrich: if you don't know the name of the module, how would compiling them help?
[09:26] <unknown> got yahoo or something?
[09:26] <unknown> so we can talk
[09:26] <cafuego> bob2: Mebbe give 'module-assistant' a try.
[09:26] <blrich> bob2, but if they just give you the ach_pci et.c drivers, well then they're already getting autoloaded and not working anyway
[09:26] <Razor-X> AIM, I have yahoo, but i'm gonna set it up in my emacs later
[09:26] <unknown> emacs?
[09:26] <bob2> blrich: run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[09:26] <blrich> bob2, well i presume i'll get some more information when i go in and configure the kernel
[09:26] <unknown> aint that a editor
[09:26] <echylo> unknown, yes
[09:26] <ateves> is it possible to have more than one file column in nautilus' listview?
[09:26] <bob2> blrich: no, I don't think you will.  what sort of card is it?
[09:27] <unknown> add me
[09:27] <Razor-X> unknown: yeah, it is
[09:27] <unknown> aim: natalichwolf
[09:27] <blrich> bob2, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 is already the newest version.
[09:27] <Razor-X> only, emacs can do a ton ton more
[09:27] <unknown> yahoo: _myth
[09:27] <Amaranth> Razor-X: In computing, KPDF is the PDF reader of the KDE Desktop Environment. It is based on xpdf.
[09:27] <unknown> take ur pic
[09:27] <unknown> that's my info
[09:27] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Of course, this is just what wikipedia says...
[09:27] <rendi> hei how to get grub back
[09:27] <rendi> anyone know ?????/
[09:28] <Amaranth> !grub
[09:28] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[09:28] <echylo> ubotu, grub
[09:28] <blrich> bob2, i have a netgear 802.11g pci card, according to the ubuntu wiki it should have the ar5212 chipset (it does) and bring up an interface called ach or ap0 or something, which it hasn't and won't
[09:28] <cafuego> unknown: No, it's a BSD operating system without a microkernel.
[09:28] <unknown> oh
[09:28] <Razor-X> I was reading an interview with the author
[09:28] <rendi> Amaranth i'm del on my partition on hda1
[09:28] <Razor-X> so, maybe they switched *shrug(
[09:28] <blrich> bob2, someone suggested madwifi, i presume this is a different set of drivers. found a deb of them on the net, it unpacks to a tar.gz of the madwifi modules source in /usr/src/
[09:28] <rendi> all with xp
[09:28] <cafuego> emacs is satan
[09:28] <rendi> and now i can't get back my box :(
[09:28] <unknown> i like windows(just kidding)
[09:29] <unknown> i can't program on linux yet
[09:29] <bob2> blrich: no, ignore the madwifi suggestion
[09:29] <Amaranth> cafuego: What OS are you talking about?
[09:29] <bob2> blrich: they're already included in ubuntu
[09:29] <cafuego> Amaranth: Emacs
[09:29] <Amaranth> cafuego: emacs is BSD without a microkernel?
[09:29] <cafuego> Amaranth: it's a collection of daemons ;-0
[09:29] <blrich_> bob2, so yeah, i'm confused
[09:29] <rendi> Amaranth do you know how to install grub again without reinstall my ubuntu ??
[09:29] <blrich_> bob2, can you even get development packages for the ubuntu kernel?
[09:30] <Amaranth> rendi: I only know what http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto says
[09:30] <Razor-X> unknown: it won't take long to shift to linux
[09:30] <rendi> i have read it
[09:30] <cafuego> rendi: Boot the cd in rescue mode, reinstall grub.
[09:30] <Razor-X> especially if you've been using text to compile
[09:30] <rendi> nothing help me
[09:30] <unknown> lol i know i need my webcam support from gaim
[09:30] <Razor-X> I use TNT, emacs AIM client ;)
[09:30] <rendi> oh ic
[09:30] <rendi> ok i'll try now
[09:30] <unknown> i use yahoo:P
[09:30] <rendi> c ya
[09:30] <cafuego> rendi: Which partition is your Linux one?
[09:31] <bob2> blrich_: of course, but you don't need them
[09:31] <bob2> blrich_: you're getting way ahead of yourself here
[09:31] <unknown> ok well i like this channel nice people
[09:31] <unknown> who actually HELP
[09:31] <unknown> not give wrong answers
[09:31] <unknown> or short ones
[09:31] <unknown> i like that
[09:31] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:31] <cafuego> unknown: Well you know, I'm right by definition.
[09:31] <bob2> blrich_: ath_pci is the driver you want
[09:31] <blrich_> bob2, okay, what should i do?
[09:31] <Razor-X> cafuego: in the null set ;)
[09:31] <blrich_> bob2, ah yes, and it's being autoloaded at startup anyway
[09:32] <unknown> anyway if you want to add my contacts they are: aim: natalichwolf and Yahoo: _myth
[09:32] <bob2> blrich_: so, there you go.
[09:32] <unknown> be my guest to add me
[09:32] <blrich_> bob2, but the ath0 interface isn't coming up, and in dmesg the drivers are marked experimental, and so i summised they're not working
[09:32] <unknown> ill be back tomorrow
[09:32] <Razor-X> unknown: if you wanna see what my emacs desktop looks like, I can show you a picture
[09:32] <cafuego> bob2: Yeah, he was loading that earlier and got an error. The driver mentioned 'EXPERIMENTAL' so you know...
[09:32] <unknown> sure
[09:32] <bob2> cafuego: ah
[09:32] <unknown> before i go
[09:32] <bob2> blrich_: paste the output of "dmesg | grep -i ath" to #flood
[09:33] <blrich_> bob2, so i wanted to try madwifi. and i have no problem compiling my own kernels etc., but i'm new to ubuntu. i used debian potato once for a few months, 6 years ago. since then i've been using gentoo, os my ubuntu/debian skills are rusty
[09:33] <blrich_> bob2, k
[09:33] <bob2> blrich_: so, as I already said before, linux-restricted-modules includes madwifi, prebuilt
[09:33] <blrich_> bob2, pasted
[09:34] <blrich_> bob2, ah, okay
[09:34] <ateves> is it possible to have more than one file column in nautilus' listview?
[09:34] <acid2> Anyone know where I could find libgladeui-1 ?
[09:35] <Razor-X> !info libgladeui-1
[09:35] <Razor-X> doesen't exist ;)
[09:35] <Razor-X> do you need that one, specifically?
[09:35] <unknown> razor going to show?
[09:35] <eno> I deleted my applacations menu, places menu and settings menus, and I can't figure out how to get them back.  PLease help.
[09:36] <acid2> Yea, I need that specific one
[09:36] <acid2> It's for Glade3 (which hasnt been officially released)
[09:36] <bob2> blrich_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972, which is a shame
[09:36] <blrich_> bob2, so what do you think? when i run iwconfig, it says it finds interfaces lo, eth0 and sit0, none with 'wireless extensions'. i have supplicant installed but no idea of how to configure it. all in all i'm lost
[09:36] <calamari_> anyone know why the using network setup dialog makes it so I can't run any more programs?
[09:37] <noob-leech> I'm having some problems with libtool.
[09:38] <noob-leech> When I'm trying to compile something, I get this error message... "libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration".
[09:38] <blrich_> bob2, ah, dammit, well thankyou anyway, hopefully this will work  =)
[09:38] <noob-leech> Is there anything I could fool around with the libtool?
[09:38] <noob-leech> *with for
[09:38] <bob2> blrich_: should work out of the box in breezy
[09:39] <eno> no advice on how to restore my applications menu after deleting it?
[09:39] <eno> it's ok, I should be in bed anyways
[09:39] <IceDC571> ouch.. i'm on kde right now lol
[09:40] <calamari_> is ubuntu able to handle more than one network connection at a time?  when I activate eth0 my pp0 stops working
[09:40] <bob2> of course it can
[09:40] <bob2> you need to configure them correctly, tho
[09:40] <bob2> which whatever wrapper tool you're using may not be doing
[09:40] <IceDC571> hmm.. kde's default fonts are huge.. i wonder why
[09:40] <calamari_> bob2: oic.. I blame the network setup dialog, then :)
[09:41] <decaf_away> IceDC571: me too
[09:41] <blrich_> bob2, hot
[09:41] <calamari_> since it's crashing me like crazy :)
[09:41] <IceDC571> decaf_away: aren't you supposed to be away?
[09:41] <anacron> IceDC571: i think that too, font's are a way too big, makes me mad when i have always resize them
[09:42] <IceDC571> anacron: do you use kde yourself?
[09:42] <anacron> no
[09:42] <anacron> or, not anymore
[09:43] <eno> thanks anyways, I can try back tomorrow
[09:44] <IceDC571> okay so i installed kubuntu-desktop.. right after that i type sudo aptitude install k3b, and it says all my kde packages are not being used, aptitude will remove all 400 of them.. so it removes them without asking me
[09:44] <IceDC571> i thought that was really strange
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> that's pretty odd, especially considering k3b is installed by default with ubuntu
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> thats why you dont use aptitude
[09:45] <IceDC571> i know, i tried apt-get and it worked just fine
[09:45] <bob2> I'm 99% sure k3b is not installed by default
[09:45] <anacron> me too
[09:45] <IceDC571> i tried aptitude again with sudo aptitude install cdrdao (i was actually missing this) and it removes all my KDE apps again
[09:45] <Computer__Guru> it was on mine or i installed it without realizing it ;)
[09:46] <IceDC571> which is sad, because i really liked aptitude
[09:46] <Computer__Guru> what's wrong with apt-get?
[09:46] <bob2> does apt do the same thing?
[09:46] <bob2> Computer__Guru: apt-get is a fairly low-level tool
[09:46] <IceDC571> bob2: apt-get didnt remove anything
[09:46] <mindamp> whenever i try to browse to localhost:631 and do manage printers>add printers, it prompts me for the usual username/password which is root/***, however it won't accept it
[09:47] <Computer__Guru> that's odd, i'm certain i read somewhere that it's the user side of the apt package management system
[09:47] <mindamp> im assuming this is related to the no root login for gnome under ubuntu
[09:47] <bob2> IceDC571: did you configure aptitude to install recommends/suggests?
[09:47] <mindamp> and please don't recommend the gnome print manager
[09:47] <IceDC571> bob2: um. im not sure what you mean by that. so i guess not?
[09:47] <mindamp> cause im working with cups-pdf
[09:47] <Computer__Guru> mindamp: sudo passwd
[09:47] <anacron> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[09:47] <Computer__Guru> :D
[09:48] <bob2> mindamp: no, the web interface is disabled, and the gnome applet thing asks for your password
[09:48] <bob2> IceDC571: go into the options and check
[09:48] <mindamp> computer_guru...
[09:48] <mindamp> that doesn't do the trick
[09:48] <bob2> anacron: aptitude is a higher level tool, and does things like tracking packages that were only installed to satisfy dependencies, as well as logging changes and having a curses interface
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> im still waiting to hear what's low-level about apt-get
[09:48] <mindamp> i tried that about 4 days ago
[09:48] <mindamp> when i first installed the OS
[09:49] <Computer__Guru> oh well then you set a root password at that point, so you have a root account
[09:49] <IceDC571> bob2: yes, i have it enabled
[09:49] <IceDC571> bob2: i think i know where it went wrong
[09:49] <bob2> there you go
[09:49] <mindamp> the root account is already there dude
[09:49] <bob2> Computer__Guru: see above
[09:49] <mindamp> does anyone here know what they are talking about?
[09:49] <mindamp> i need help with cups
[09:49] <Computer__Guru> so basically it's prettier
[09:49] <Hackmo> hey all, can anyone help me with my webcam problem?
[09:49] <IceDC571> bob2: i had the ubuntu-desktop installed too, maybe my system thought i was staying with ubuntu-desktop, thats why it removed kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <Computer__Guru> and for people who know less about how debian works
[09:49] <Computer__Guru> gotchya
[09:50] <bob2> Computer__Guru: er, no, that's not at all what I said
[09:50] <mindamp> my god
[09:50] <mindamp> yes apt-get is archaic
[09:50] <mindamp> can we move on?
[09:50] <Computer__Guru> works great for me :)
[09:50] <bob2> nice attitude, too
[09:50] <mindamp> yes well bash works well also
[09:50] <mindamp> so blah blah blah
[09:50] <mindamp> cups anyone?
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> *shrug* I've been using debian for the better part of five years, dude... kinda hard not to get a little defensive over your package management system at that point :)
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> I don't use cups, sorry
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> hell, ive been on knoppix for 2 years
[09:51] <IceDC571> i thought cups was installed by default?
[09:51] <mindamp> oh my god
[09:51] <bob2> it is indeed
[09:51] <Computer__Guru> just switched to ubuntu 2 days ago
[09:52] <IceDC571> Computer__Guru: im thinking about switching to debian because im too bored
[09:52] <Computer__Guru> IceDC571: you're on debian
[09:52] <mindamp> is everyone stoned in here or something?
[09:52] <mindspin> where do I add a font to become usable systemwide?
[09:52] <IceDC571> i know i am, i just want to install a minimal system and build up from there
[09:52] <mindamp> a 5 year debian veteran would be able to answer this simple question
[09:52] <Computer__Guru> mindamp: no, printers are a bitch
[09:52] <Ghetek> is there something like vnc for ubuntu linux command line?
[09:52] <Computer__Guru> console font, or x font?
[09:52] <mindspin> xfont
[09:52] <bob2> mindamp: please stop being obnoxious
[09:52] <Computer__Guru> Ghetek: yeah, ssh
[09:53] <bob2> Computer__Guru: ubuntu is not debian
[09:53] <Computer__Guru> ubuntu is most certainly debian
[09:53] <Computer__Guru> cat /etc/debian_version:
[09:53] <Computer__Guru> 3.1
[09:53] <Computer__Guru> imagine that
[09:53] <bob2> Computer__Guru: no, it is not.  it is based on it, and similar, but certainly not identical.
[09:53] <bob2> Computer__Guru: yes, that was left there deliberately
[09:53] <IceDC571> lol, wonderful..another war
[09:53] <mindamp> http://i-admin.blogspot.com/2004/12/solution-for-web-admin-interface-for.html
[09:53] <mindamp> thanks anyways idiots
[09:53] <mindamp> peace
[09:53] <Computer__Guru> to show that it's a debian system. without debian, ubuntu would not exist
[09:54] <Computer__Guru> im looking mindamp
[09:54] <Computer__Guru> holdon
[09:54] <bob2> Computer__Guru: yes, we know that, but please don't claim they are the same
[09:54] <Computer__Guru> i hate when they do that
[09:54] <Computer__Guru> not the same, not by a long shot
[09:54] <cafuego> Hmm, odd.
[09:54] <bob2> Computer__Guru: so, please don't make claims like "ubuntu is most certainly debian"
[09:54] <Computer__Guru> ubuntu's sources are actually maintained and updated with some form of regularity
[09:54] <bob2> thanks.
[09:54] <cafuego> Do I need to just enable SMP on a HT box make ht work? Or did I miss something?
[09:54] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: without mcc its doubtful any of the linux distros would exist, but it'd be hard to claim all distros are mcc :)
[09:55] <Computer__Guru> but it is still debian at heart, and that's what matters :)
[09:55] <bob2> cafuego: you need some acpit stuff, too..."acpi cpu enumeration" sticks in my mind
[09:55] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: if it weren't for minix, none of this would exist :D
[09:55] <IceDC571> i'm still keeping ubuntu on my other machine, i like it
[09:55] <cafuego> bob2: Lemme check...
[09:55] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: that one is less certain
[09:55] <bob2> cafuego: the 686-smp ubuntu/debian kernels Just Work, fwiw
[09:55] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: without minix linus would just have likely created a 'free unix clone' earlier
[09:56] <cafuego> bob2: yeah, but those aren't an option on this box.
[09:56] <bob2> cafuego: ah
[09:56] <IceDC571> is there a good place for debian stuff like ubuntuforums?
[09:56] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: Linus Torvalds began work ont he first linux kernel and filesystem out of frustration. the developers of minix would not allow him any lee-way on his desire to develop for the minix system. since it was closed source, he began a project to create a 'minix like' kernel and fs
[09:56] <Computer__Guru> thus, linux was born
[09:56] <bob2> nikkia: boot strapping from dos would have been harder
[09:57] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: yes, i know that, i was using linux at the time
[09:57] <bob2> Computer__Guru: I'm pretty sure he started it to learn about assembling programming, independant of any license issues
[09:57] <Computer__Guru> i started a little later
[09:57] <bob2> IceDC571: the debian-user mailing list
[09:57] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: but to argue that 'without minix linux wouldn't exist' is hard, without minix linus would have had *nothing* to scratch his 'linux on his PC for free' itch, and might have just as easily decided to write linux a few months earlier
[09:58] <Ghetek> what server/client can i get in universe that will let me easily control another ubuntu linux machine in console?
[09:58] <jtan325> Ghetek, ssh
[09:58] <Computer__Guru> okay, i'll concede that
[09:58] <Ghetek> keyword=easo;y
[09:58] <Ghetek> *easily
[09:58] <fishfillet> elo ubuntu.. my first time here..
[09:58] <fishfillet> any filipinos?
[09:58] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: and no, minix wasn't 'closed source'
[09:58] <bob2> Ghetek: install openssh-server on the machine you want to control, then just ssh in
[09:58] <jtan325> Ghetek, it's not super easy, but any other option is probably nt as secure
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> the article i read said it was
[09:59] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: i mean, the standard distribution for minix was to buy the book that contained the floppy disks *and the entire source code*
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> could be wrong tho
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> like i said, i came in a little later... circa 96
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> slackware 1.2 or so i think it was
[09:59] <TokenBad> how install OSS?
[09:59] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: the real problem with minix was that it was a flawed architecture
[09:59] <bob2> TokenBad: you mean "How do I configure Ubuntu to use the OSS audio drivers?"?
[10:00] <TokenBad> yes
[10:00] <bob2> TokenBad: blacklist the ALSA module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:00] <The_Vox> Computer__Guru: the problem with minix was that while you could do changes to it, and had access to the source (it was/is an OS made for teaching in schools), you couldn't distribute modified minix and most changes were rejected by Tanneboum(sp?) because he wanted the OS to be as simple as possible so as to keep it easy to understand.
[10:00] <bob2> TokenBad: "lsmod" will help you find it
[10:00] <nikkia> by 1992 even tanenbaum had given up on minix, concentrating on amoeba
[10:00] <Computer__Guru> i went from slackware in 96 to redhat in 98 to deb in 2000, and ive been deb ever since.. with the occasional windows here and there
[10:01] <Ghetek> bob2: yeah thanks, ssh seems not too bad
[10:01] <bob2> ssh is about your only option
[10:01] <bob2> which is ok, since it's awesome
[10:01] <Computer__Guru> wow, you guys are nerds :D
[10:01] <bob2> except over high latency links or cpu-starved machines
[10:01] <Ghetek> yeah i just sshed localhost
[10:01] <Ghetek> it was suprisingly simple
[10:01] <noob-leech> Umm... a question... when I tried to compile something, I got this error message... "libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration".  Is there anything I can do to fool around with the libtool and the Makefile?
[10:01] <Computer__Guru> ssh -luser hostname
[10:02] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: i went from mcc in 92, to yggdrasil, to slackware, to slakware, to slackware, to redhat, to suse, to slackware, to knoppix, to kubuntu :)
[10:02] <The_Vox> Computer__Guru: I was there for the whole thing...I wasn't a minix user, but I used to read the NG back when Linus posted the first "I'm writing an OS" post
[10:02] <bob2> noob-leech: what are you trying to compile?
[10:02] <TokenBad> hmm...bob2 when did that not show anything for alsa..just some stuff that have oss
[10:02] <bob2> noob-leech: and do you have "build-essential installed?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> knoppix sure was nice wasnt it
[10:02] <noob-leech> bob2: Yes.
[10:02] <cyphase> which theme do you guys use?
[10:02] <bob2> TokenBad: no modules starting with snd_?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> gave debian what it needed, a user friendly config :D
[10:03] <TokenBad> I see like 9 things that start with snd
[10:03] <nikkia> The_Vox: i got involved a couple of months after the announcement, i was suggested to look at linux 'as its not as expensive as ours' by the guy that ran BSDi :)
[10:03] <ch_604> hayyyyy i cant hear anything from my soundcard
[10:03] <bob2> TokenBad: then you're using alsa.  why do you want to use oss?
[10:03] <fishfillet> ch_604: try looking for a solution at www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:03] <nikkia> The_Vox: i was ready to pay $700 for BSDi, didn't want to - as i was a student, but was ready to, he told me not to bother and try linux instead, that was version 0.13
[10:03] <TokenBad> cause sound in a game don't work like it should..and in one of the forums they said to use oss and it fixed the problem
[10:03] <The_Vox> nikkia: I actually didn't get into linux 'til ygrdaasil started...I was waaaay too lazy to be messing with trying to install from scratch :)
[10:03] <djp> ch_604: check your volume levels are turned up and not muted
[10:03] <ch_604> aaaaand firefox makes me freeze
[10:04] <bob2> TokenBad: I'd be pretty surprised if that helped
[10:04] <ch_604> no, music just wont play
[10:04] <nikkia> The_Vox: mcc wasn't bad, at the time the entire distro fitted on 2 floppies anyway :)
[10:04] <cyphase> ch_604, how can fire make you freeze?
[10:04] <TokenBad> well can't hurt to try it...
[10:04] <ch_604> memory ._.
[10:04] <rendi> !mount
[10:04] <ubotu> rendi: I give up, what is it?
[10:04] <The_Vox> nikkia: hehehe
[10:04] <Ghetek> !dict ubuntu
[10:04] <ubotu> could not find definition for ubuntu
[10:04] <nikkia> The_Vox: if you wanted X, you compiled it yourself
[10:04] <Madpilot> cyphase: i wound up rolling my own theme... none of the defaults worked for me...
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> but for as long as ive been in linux, and as much as ive had to revert to windows here and there, ive always had a linux box
[10:05] <djp> ch_604: do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[10:05] <nikkia> The_Vox: even when yggdrasil came around, it wasn't much better, i remember labouring for hours to get xview/openview to compile on it :)
[10:05] <ch_604> no, svirge
[10:05] <TokenBad> bob2 but to keep it from using it I would put those 9 things that start with snd into the blacklist file?
[10:05] <ch_604> what does that have to do with my sound
[10:05] <Computer__Guru> ive also had a little experience with irix (6.14) and quite a bit of experience with FreeBSD 4 when I ran my DALnet servers
[10:05] <cyphase> Madpilot, do you mean you combined parts of different themes, or made a completely new one?
[10:05] <ch_604> !good bot
[10:05] <ubotu> thanks ch_604 :)
[10:05] <djp> ch_604: firefox freeze
[10:05] <ch_604> oh
[10:06] <bob2> TokenBad: well, the one for your card should be enough
[10:06] <ch_604> thats system memory, not video
[10:06] <rendi> !mount
[10:06] <ubotu> rendi: No idea
[10:06] <TokenBad> how do I know which is for my card?
[10:06] <bob2> you can use the bot in /msg, btw
[10:06] <Computer__Guru> but once i went debian, i never strayed from apt
[10:06] <djp> ch_604: i know that nvidia drivers cause a problem
[10:06] <The_Vox> nikkia: my first yggdrasil install took me about a week, IIRC, to get something that actually was usable :)
[10:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu hi
[10:06] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: my unix experience started on a sequent running dynix, and a solbourne running OS/9 (ok, its not unix, but its close)
[10:06] <ubotu> privet, church_of_foamy
[10:06] <Madpilot> cyphase: combined parts.
[10:06] <rendi> how to mount cdrom guy's
[10:06] <ch_604> !cdrom
[10:06] <ubotu> I don't know, ch_604
[10:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o think the bots busted
[10:06] <I-ka> haiiiiiii
[10:06] <Computer__Guru> oh in high school i worked on a VAX/VMS system
[10:06] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: from there i went to ultrix, then sunos, and wanted a unix on my PC so badly :)
[10:06] <bob2> this discussion is great, but maybe more approrpriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <Madpilot> rendi: they should automount
[10:07] <bob2> thanks folks
[10:07] <rendi> !mount
[10:07] <ubotu> No idea, rendi
[10:07] <cyphase> does anyone know where i can get the ubotu source?
[10:07] <djp> ch_604: are you trying to playback mp3's and don't have the correct plugin installed?
[10:07] <bob2> rendi: doing it again and again will not give you different results
[10:07] <TokenBad> bob2 once I had to blacklist I will have to reboot right?
[10:07] <cyphase> ubotu, where are you?
[10:07] <ubotu> cyphase: I think you lost me on that one
[10:07] <bob2> cyphase: blootbot.sf.net
[10:07] <Computer__Guru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I have every single foamy episode :)
[10:07] <bob2> TokenBad: that's the simplest way, yes
[10:07] <cyphase> thanx bob2
[10:07] <Madpilot> rendi: does this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[10:07] <rendi> oh sorry
[10:07] <nikkia> The_Vox: my strongest yggdrasil memory is that the CD they sent me didn't work, you had to use a kernel from a floppy they sent seperately :)
[10:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru awsome ^_^ a Foamy fan ^_^
[10:07] <rendi> i'm bot with rescue
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> was there even bootable cd's in 92?
[10:08] <rendi> and want get back my grub
[10:08] <Tarcastil> hey, I'm new to ubuntu, so hopefully this is an easy question. How do I get the command on this page to work? http://shinzui.org/space/Japanese+Input+on+Ubuntu
[10:08] <The_Vox> nikkia: lol! I don't actually remember much of that <chuckle> :)
[10:08] <ch_604> no it was a wav
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> my god the coffee's empty you muthafucka are crazy down here its empty like the head ont he shelf of a dead mans office
[10:08] <ch_604> i think
[10:08] <bob2> Computer__Guru: dude.
[10:08] <ch_604> ill install lame anyways
[10:08] <rendi> and  thes system say insert ubuntu cd again !_!
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> bob2: foamy
[10:08] <cafuego> Computer__Guru: Of course.
[10:09] <rendi> bob2 can help me
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> actually
[10:09] <Madpilot> Computer__Guru: wth?
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> pillz-e
[10:09] <bob2> rendi: I haven't seen you ask a question
[10:09] <rendi> ?
[10:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru holy crap longtime no see man welcome back ^_^
[10:09] <bob2> rendi: you seem to just keep making vague assertions and poking the bot
[10:09] <bob2> rendi: what exactly is your problem?
[10:10] <rendi> ok, i'm bot from rescue mode to instal my grub and system say i have to  insert my cd, but i have already insert it
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> bob2: did i mention i actually HAVE a shirt that says BOFH on the front and "USER ERROR, PLEASE ASK YOUR MOTHER TO REINSTALL" ont he back :D
[10:10] <Tarcastil> How do I get this apt-get command to work? http://shinzui.org/space/Japanese+Input+on+Ubuntu It's supposed to be for hoary, but nothing comes up
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you dont know me, im brand new. we're just bretheren in the church of foamy :)
[10:10] <bob2> Tarcastil: no need to ask over and over;  I'd try asking on the mailing list
[10:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru oh ok for a second there i thought you where bob2 O_o
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> LOL
[10:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> feels like a dolt >.<
[10:11] <IceDC571> i feel so 640x480 on kubuntu
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> so lady with the purple hair how are you with the getting better and the lack of dying and the needles int he eyes for the recovery of fun?
[10:12] <spinifex> IceDC571: feel?
[10:12] <IceDC571> i dont think its just the fonts.. everything is huge
[10:12] <MidNightRaVeN> anyone have a clue what package i would use to sync and ipod?
[10:12] <MidNightRaVeN> an*
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> hrmm
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> well, i think hotplug would find it
[10:12] <spinifex> IceDC571 I actually feel the opposite.  Kubuntu is too small..
[10:12] <spinifex> =p
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> but i dunno to sync it
[10:12] <bob2> try to stay on-topic, people
[10:12] <BeatYou> anyone know how to configure users with wu-ftpd
[10:12] <bob2> #ubuntu-offtopic is more approriate for storytelling
[10:12] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: gtkpod
[10:13] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: does it make like an archive list as well?
[10:13] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: archive list?
[10:13] <MidNightRaVeN> Computer__Guru: thx =)
[10:13] <IceDC571> spinifex: how is kubuntu too small?? thats strange
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> netime
[10:13] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: like take all the songs and organize them or such?
[10:13] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: sort of
[10:13] <spinifex> IceDC571: by default all of the fonts appear super tiny on my screen
[10:14] <noob-leech> bob2: Now I know where the problem is...
[10:14] <noob-leech> ---> "LIBTOOL = @LIBTOOL@"
[10:14] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: lol kk =) thx! I'll give it a whirl
[10:14] <spinifex> IceDC571: like 5 pixels high
[10:14] <IceDC571> spinifex: well maybe it tries to adjust to your resolution and its bad at it?
[10:14] <noob-leech> I need to add a --tag=foo somewhere after libtool
[10:14] <noob-leech> >_>
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just made my first cd in linux ^_^
[10:14] <BeatYou> anyone know how to configure users with wu-ftpd
[10:14] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: you probably want gtkpod-aac if you can find it, as the regular gtkpod in the repositories is built without AAC file support
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's a knoppix cd what pritty colours during boot
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> i just switched from knoppix
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> 3.9 is junk
[10:15] <IceDC571> does debian have a decent installer? or is it all manual?
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> and 3.7 is too outdated to use
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now i want to make ubuntu's boot look like knoppix
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> and i dont do even number knoppix versions out of superstition
[10:15] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: try splashy
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru it just saved a customers ass yesterday
[10:15] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: crap...  most my songs are in AAC format right now too...
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> yeah its an okay rescue cd
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> recoverd all the gunk on there xp box so i like it
[10:15] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what was wrong with the customer's pc?
[10:15] <Computer__Guru> i still use it for that
[10:16] <Computer__Guru> but ubuntu ownz knoppix for an installed system, imo.. ymmv
[10:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um powersurge corrupted the hd beyond it's ability to boot
[10:16] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: gtkpod-aac is in backports... but for some obscure reason, i'm using a non-ubuntu build of it from a debian repository, i can't remember the reason why i did that
[10:16] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i have some windows user that when the desktop loads, all you can see is the background.. no start menu.. any idea whats wrong?
[10:16] <Madpilot> IceDC571: they're running Windows? :)
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea lots and lots of spyware and/ or a virus
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when that happens then the os has touble booting all it's components
[10:17] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: anything wrong with gtkpod-aac??? that you know of atleast?
[10:17] <Computer__Guru> make an xp live cd, boot from that, mount the hard drive and run the hell out of ad-aware, spywareblaster, and spybot s&d
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but in futere goto start and click on run programs
[10:17] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: overall? or the version in backports?
[10:17] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well i ran a spyware and virus scan.. nothing came up
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and type in explorer.exe and that should fix your freinds problem
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm you run an av prog?
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it is windows you know
[10:18] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: when i type in explorer.exe the start menu flashes and hides forever lol
[10:18] <nikkia> ahhhh, i remmeber why i'm not using backports' version
[10:18] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: version in backports?
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmmm
[10:18] <Computer__Guru> install avast antivirus and schedule a boot-time scan
[10:18] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: the reason i switched to a debian build, was because the backports version is missing the scripts to handle Notes syncing
[10:18] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i know way too much about windows.. im about ready to give up and say switch to linux
[10:19] <noob-leech> It finally compiles \o\ \o/ /o/.
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> might not be a bad idea i did and i was a lifetime windows user
[10:19] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: you went outside the universe?!?
[10:19] <spinifex> why are we talking about windows?  Besides, if you want antivirus, use Grisoft ( http://free.grisoft.com ) and run their dos scanner if you must
[10:19] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: there is a general issue with gtkpod too, in that the auto-mount doesn't seem to work, so i have to manually mount my ipod to the right place before I  start it
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now i'm actually happy with my box and it works without fail
[10:19] <IceDC571> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i want to chain someone to a linux computer
[10:19] <TokenBad> bob2 ok got the oss default sink to give me sound
[10:19] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: i often do, there are some things missing/old in the repositories
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[10:19] <TokenBad> but the default source I hear nothing
[10:19] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: SHAME, a pox on your kin!
[10:19] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: however, i feel comfortable with what i'm doing, so don't feel too intimidated if things break :P
[10:19] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: yea... i just installed it and it didn't really mount it at all. I'm going to have to get -acc anyway so I'll just start there.
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just a hunch can you get a copy of norton 2003 with ghost?
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: I'm just kidding, I install things from source fromt ime to time :)
[10:20] <IceDC571> hmm.. should i install debian or do a server ubuntu install?
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> as you already know
[10:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know where i can get splashy form?
[10:20] <Computer__Guru> i have it
[10:20] <spinifex> !info splashy
[10:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> IceDC571 get norton systemworks 2003 with ghost install it and run the repair feature
[10:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now it just sounds like a broken regestry link
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> -rw-r--r--  1 jay jay 414014 2005-07-10 05:55 splashy_0.1.5_i386.deb
[10:21] <spinifex> ugh, don't use norton!  =[
[10:21] <MidNightRaVeN> ! backports
[10:21] <ubotu> I heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:21] <jsgotangco> IceDC571: any should do its basically the same :)
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> whatis splashy:
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> splashy: nothing appropriate.
[10:21] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: i'd recommend being very careful with backports...
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> hrmm
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> which splashy:
[10:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru can you give me a link to splashy?
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> /sbin/splashy
[10:21] <jsgotangco> although some people still vouch for Debian as servers
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> there we go
[10:21] <Computer__Guru> i'd be happy to email it to you
[10:22] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: in fact, for gtkpod-aac, you can just download the .deb and install it with dpkg -i, its safer than adding backports to your sources
[10:22] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: yeaaa.... i know... =/ have you had any problems with it yet?
[10:22] <IceDC571> im not using it as a server im just going to do a minimal install
[10:22] <Computer__Guru> remember to set lilo or grub to vga=791
[10:22] <skaught> Does anyone have any magical insight as to why Sound Juicer extracts at 2x speed, even with a CD-ROM with udma active?
[10:22] <IceDC571> !udma
[10:22] <ubotu> IceDC571: I give up, what is it?
[10:22] <IceDC571> lol i dont know
[10:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even though it's norton it still actually has a part that works it's called one button check up it may save your freinds box
[10:22] <nikkia> skaught: because that's all your CD is specced for for audio extraction ?
[10:22] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: where can i get the .deb? just google it?
[10:22] <Computer__Guru> i even have a kubuntu bootsplash screen with a pretty girl (vector drawn) on it
[10:23] <Computer__Guru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what's your email addy, ill send it to you
[10:23] <IceDC571> and all the linux users use gmail...
[10:23] <nikkia> skaught: there is a SCSI2/ATAPI command that queries the audio extraction speed for the drive, a lot of cheaper drives report low speeds,  you might be able to ignore it, but i dunno
[10:23] <spinifex> who wants 50 gmail accounts?
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> whoops, I didn't have my name on
[10:23] <skaught> nikkia, Indeed, I can understand that
[10:23] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: just visit the URL that is listed for adding to sources.list for backports, and dive into the dirs until you find gtkpod-aac*.deb
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> anyway, I have a lot of faith in grisoft, and no faith in norton anymore
[10:24] <IceDC571> i give up.. ill just keep using ubuntu
[10:24] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: lol i'm still pretty newb but i'll try. Think you can help me any with that?
[10:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here use chgb?
[10:25] <pax> can alises take an external email addy where root can send emails?
[10:25] <skaught> nikkia, It is a cheap laptop drive so I wouldn't be surprised. I'll just be more patient
[10:25] <pax> aliases*
[10:25] <eyequeue> pax:  yes
[10:25] <eyequeue> pax:  though it's advised to keep that on the same box
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: omgwtf, I'm using bitchx right now, and when I press tab for name completion, it prints out name options on top of the last few chat messages!  This is awful... how can you use this?
[10:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> runs linux on his ipod ^_^
[10:26] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/gtkpod-aac_0.88.1-0.0~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[10:26] <pax> eyequeue: so root : pax@gmail.com?
[10:26] <eyequeue> pax:  and hope your connection to gmail is always good, heh
[10:26] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: so just do sudo apt-get http://blah blah blah?
[10:26] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: no
[10:26] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: download that .deb file
[10:27] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: kk =)
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> whoa, I never considered installing remote files, that would be cool if it worked
[10:27] <pax> eyequeue: why is it asvised to keep it on ethe same box, isnt good idea to get that mail outta the box to keep it safe incase the box get owned?
[10:27] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: then do 'sudo dpkg -i gtkpod-aac_0.88.1-0.0~5.04ubp1_i386.deb'
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> blarg, ima boot back into ubuntu so I can use my precious irssi again.  brb
[10:28] <MidNightRaVeN> what does the -i do?
[10:28] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: what does the -i do?
[10:28] <Computer__Guru> installs
[10:28] <eyequeue> pax:  in that case i'd duplicate it :)  say cron tells you "my external interface is broken" or something, for example
[10:28] <MidNightRaVeN> oo
[10:28] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: the only depend. that is likely to be an issue is libid3tag0, so you want to check that's installed first
[10:28] <MidNightRaVeN> kk =)
[10:28] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN:  'install'
[10:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> listens to system of a down while reading linux magazene ^_^
[10:29] <pax> eyequeue: great, so set the postmaster as the emila addy and then addy ; pax?
[10:29] <pax> addy: pax*
[10:29] <Computer__Guru> i really wish hitchhikers guide would hurry the hell up
[10:29] <jamesDOOD> Hi
[10:29] <jamesDOOD> is there a channel for installation help
[10:29] <eyequeue> pax:  yeah, you can chain them (and i often do)
[10:29] <jamesDOOD> ?
[10:29] <nikkia> argh, i think i'm gonna get into trouble at work :(
[10:29] <Computer__Guru> you're in it
[10:29] <pax> nice
[10:29] <jamesDOOD> aha
[10:29] <eyequeue> jamesDOOD:  you're in it
[10:29] <jamesDOOD> great
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru that was the funnies movie i seen this year it so rocked
[10:29] <BeatYou> can someone pastebin a default protftpd.conf file please?!?!?!
[10:30] <BeatYou> mine is borked
[10:30] <Computer__Guru> yeah it says itll be here in about 5 hours
[10:30] <nikkia> i'm supposed to email the woman in charge of these things every day i'm working from home, but all i get is an auto-response that she's left the company :(
[10:30] <jamesDOOD> I'm getting an obscure message right after finishing the installation of Ubuntu warthog
[10:30] <ameer> Hey installing a new harddrive
[10:30] <ameer> this is an easy site..........
[10:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru you know anything about soundcards?
[10:30] <jamesDOOD> it says: graphic interface does not load, would you like to see output?"
[10:30] <ameer> have been trying to follow it for a whole night and reading everything back
[10:30] <ameer> sorry folks: Hi everyone
[10:30] <Computer__Guru> i know its better to get one alsa recognizes out of the box :D
[10:30] <jamesDOOD> I have a geforce 6600
[10:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jamesDOOD you runnin nvidia?
[10:31] <jamesDOOD> yup
[10:31] <Computer__Guru> this might sound like a stupid question, but does ubuntu enable dma by default?
[10:31] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: maybe :)
[10:31] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: it did on some of my drives, but not all
[10:32] <Computer__Guru> sudo hdparm -a /dev/hda:
[10:32] <Computer__Guru> Password:
[10:33] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: heh... just relized that its i386 and i'm running 64 =/
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> oh BLAH
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> sudo is annoying
[10:33] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: hmm
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> {jay@psilocybin (~)}$: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> Password:
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> /dev/hda:
[10:33] <Computer__Guru>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> that works
[10:33] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: might just have to go with the regular and just convert all my files lol
[10:33] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: i don't see a package of gtkpod-aac for amd64
[10:33] <Computer__Guru> it's off for my dvd-rw
[10:34] <Computer__Guru> thats gay
[10:34] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: but it looks like synaptic does bring up the regular gtkpod, so i'm assuming that it'll work fine right?
[10:34] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: yeah, it was off on my dvd-rw, and one of my hard drives
[10:34] <eyequeue> please don't use that term here
[10:34] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: yes, if you don't mind no aac support :)
[10:34] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: where would you recommend putting hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc so it happens allt he time by default?
[10:34] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: lol looks like all i got =D
[10:34] <pepsi> yay breezy!
[10:34] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: there's a file
[10:34] <pepsi> i broke my desktop with it :) joy
[10:35] <nikkia> Computer__Guru:  /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:35] <Computer__Guru> jo0 r4wk
[10:35] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: be careful with it though
[10:35] <Computer__Guru> as smart as u are, ill bet ur hot too :D
[10:35] <Computer__Guru> will do
[10:35] <nikkia> i wouldn't recommend uncommenting any of the mult_sect_io lines :)
[10:35] <MidNightRaVeN> sooo... can you edit gnome and do koo stuff like transparent windows.... and if so... lol is there like a man on that?
[10:35] <TokenBad> I was looking to download graphic drivers for my video card from nvidia and for linux they have 3 choices. linux ia32, linux amd64, and linux ia64...which should I get?
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> nikkia
[10:36] <onkarshinde> TokenBad: Which processor do you have?
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> im gonna uncomment these
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> #/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 {
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> #       dma = on
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> #       interrupt_unmask = on
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> #       io32_support = 0
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> #}
[10:36] <Computer__Guru> sound good?
[10:36] <dailycrap> hi
[10:36] <TokenBad> um...
[10:37] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: yes, just uncomment the first 2, and last line  of that stanza
[10:37] <BeatYou> im getting an error when i try to start proftpd "ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[10:37] <eyequeue> #flood or pastebin
[10:37] <Computer__Guru> ty, ma'am
[10:38] <pitel> Computer__Guru: where is it form? i would like to enable dma to my cdrom
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> pitel: /etc/hdparms.conf
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> -s
[10:38] <TokenBad> onkarshinde, AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+
[10:38] <Computer__Guru> its /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:39] <onkarshinde> TokenBad: I think linux ia32 is the one for you.
[10:39] <BeatYou> can someone please pastebin their proftpd.conf mine is messed up somehow
[10:39] <nikkia> BeatYou: sorry, i use vsftp
[10:39] <BeatYou> nikkia, does it have any notible advantages over proftpd ?
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crawls off to corner to enjoy pizza for breakfast
[10:40] <nikkia> BeatYou: it has the option to only respond to certain interfaces, which is why i couldn't live with proftpd
[10:40] <pitel> Computer__Guru: i guess it is
[10:40] <nikkia> BeatYou: i wanted a ftpd that would only listen to LAN and localhost, not WAN
[10:40] <Computer__Guru> you guess what is?
[10:40] <onkarshinde> Computer__Guru: I suppose there is one. I had downloaded one about a year time ago.
[10:41] <BeatYou> nikkia, ill try out vsftp then
[10:41] <pitel> picasso: standalone flash player
[10:41] <nikkia> BeatYou: vsftp is touted as a 'ftp daemon designed with security in mind'
[10:41] <dailycrap> does anybody know where i can find the file that lists the startup applictions for gnome?
[10:41] <Computer__Guru> you're saying it's called picasso?
[10:41] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: mplayer will play .swf files
[10:41] <Computer__Guru> no shit?
[10:41] <Computer__Guru> nice
[10:42] <pitel> Computer__Guru: no, it was mistake. it's from macromedia
[10:42] <nikkia> and i've used, ffmpeg or transcode (forget which) to convert .swf to .avi
[10:42] <nikkia> transcode, i think it was, but it needs a special input plugin
[10:43] <nikkia> basically, because the only desktop video capture  i could find for X saved the resulting movie as a .swf :)
[10:43] <BeatYou> dailycrap: /etc/init.d ?
[10:43] <dailycrap> thanks BeatYou
[10:43] <nikkia> and my boss wanted a video capture of one of my projects running :)
[10:43] <Computer__Guru> nikkia: mplayer just harfed on me when i tried to play a .swf
[10:43] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: hmmm, might need a special codec :/
[10:44] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: what is xmms mean? anything special?
[10:44] <TokenBad> ok got the drivers...but when tried to run it says running x server..and can't install
[10:44] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: is = does*
[10:44] <TokenBad> I guess to fix that would have to boot to prompt?
[10:44] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: X Multi-Media System
[10:44] <eyequeue> XMMS (1)             - (unknown subject)
[10:44] <eyequeue> xmms (1)             - an audio player for X.
[10:44] <eyequeue> Xmms (3pm)           - Interactive remote control shell for xmms
[10:44] <Computer__Guru> libswfdec?
[10:44] <Computer__Guru> heh
[10:44] <eyequeue> grr
[10:44] <MidNightRaVeN> thx =D!
[10:44] <eyequeue> X MultiMedia System
[10:44] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: i wouldn't recommend xmms tho
[10:44] <zerok> hi :-)
[10:45] <nikkia> it is very crash happy, i use beep-media-player, its a fork of xmms, and far more stable
[10:45] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: =( really? why's that?
[10:45] <eyequeue> is bmp in hoary?
[10:45] <nikkia> eyequeue: yes
[10:45] <eyequeue> k
[10:45] <nikkia> eyequeue: but it is lacking plugins, i've had to compile some of them manually
[10:45] <The_Vox> when the damn thing isn't in the mood to kill my X, for reasons unknown
[10:45] <nikkia> eyequeue: the aac and flac plugins i had to compile by hand
[10:45] <MidNightRaVeN> will it play my aac files?
[10:45] <scanwinder> fasttrack won't connect with giFT anymore it comes up with the following error: GIFT-WARNING: FastTrack: tcp_open failed for 236.82.107.24. no route to host?
[10:46] <MidNightRaVeN> crap...
[10:46] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[10:46] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: not without compiling the aac plugins by hand, or getting them from somewhere else
[10:46] <TokenBad> or how can I exit X?
[10:46] <Computer__Guru> nikkia, there's always the packages swf-player, libswfdec0.3, and libswfdec0.3-dev :D
[10:46] <MidNightRaVeN> jeez... i'll just use my XP to turn them all into mp3s then....
[10:46] <Computer__Guru> apt-cache search is your friend
[10:47] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: tbh, i'd recommend that anyway, there's nothing really like dbPowerAmp-convertor for linux, so converting aac->mp3 isn't fun
[10:48] <Computer__Guru> man there's no sound
[10:48] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: what is the package for mp3s?
[10:48] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: it can be done on linux, but i've yet to find anything that automates it, it involves converting with faad&lame, then pulling id3s across with an extra tool
[10:48] <othernoob> what do you need to watch .rmvb files?
[10:48] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: i'm too dumb still to do that =(
[10:48] <BeatYou> nikkia, vsftpd works great haha, much faster than proftpd it seems also
[10:49] <nikkia> BeatYou: its smaller, less bloated, so its not much of a surprise :)
[10:49] <BeatYou> yes its very slim
[10:49] <nikkia> BeatYou: of course, that means it lacks some of the more esoteric features from proftp, but big deal :)
[10:49] <BeatYou> chroot was easy to find as well
[10:50] <noob-leech> Darn... I seriously hate BMP... =/
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> say, what's a program that will allow me to edit massive amounts of images in succession without crashing from memory overload?
[10:50] <BeatYou> noob-leech: who doesn't ?
[10:51] <noob-leech> >_<
[10:51] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: any suggestions on what package i should install so i can read mp3s?
[10:51] <one_love_1980> xmms
[10:51] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: in what sense do you mean 'read' ?
[10:51] <jamesDOOD> Hey peeps, how do I use dailup internet during the ubuntu install so it can do its updates?
[10:51] <nikkia> MidNightRaVeN: for playback, i'd suggest beep-media-player
[10:52] <MidNightRaVeN> nikkia: does vlc do like mp3 playback with a decoder installed? and a decoder is what i meant by "reader"
[10:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> BEEP ROCKS ^_^
[10:52] <noob-leech> -_-
[10:52] <noob-leech> BMP has just crashed on me again.
[10:53] <nikkia> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the new version coming soon looks real nice
[10:53] <BeatYou> 4) Various reports have trickled in and indicate that vsftpd thumps wu-ftpd
[10:53] <BeatYou> in performance tests.
[10:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> neversion yay!
[10:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> me wants me wants ^_^
[10:53] <jamesDOOD> any idea how to use dialup in the ubuntu installer (warty warthog)
[10:54] <BeatYou> nikkia: i just messed with wu-ftpd and it seemed just as bloated as proftpd was
[10:54] <nikkia> BeatYou: as i said, i wanted something that would only respond to specified interfaces, vsftp was all i found :/
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> whoops, closed my ubuntu window while combatting 24 gthumb launches when I meant to open them in the gimp
[10:55] <tiglionabbit> I mean my chat window
[10:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to change the bootloader to to vga=791?
[10:56] <MidNightRaVeN> beep is very slick looking =D
[10:56] <one_love_1980> grub.conf
[10:57] <one_love_1980> /boot/grub.conf
[10:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[10:57] <psy> Hey
[10:57] <psy> I have a quick question about sound.
[10:57] <BeatYou> ssh looks very slick looking
[10:57] <psy> How do I open the Alsa config?
[10:57] <MidNightRaVeN> what's an m3u file?
[10:58] <BeatYou> MidNightRaVeN: playlist
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: run "file" on it and find out
[10:58] <psy> m3u is a streamed playlist
[10:58] <one_love_1980> /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:58] <BeatYou> psy: no always streamed
[10:58] <MidNightRaVeN> lol wow... so many answers! thx =)
[10:58] <djr> Silly noob question: I misspelled the hostname while installing ubuntu, so after installation i ran "hostname" to enter the correct name. Now every time I sudo I get "unable to lookup bono via gethostbyname()" (bono being the hostname i set). Any suggestions as to how to fix?
[10:58] <one_love_1980> i mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <MidNightRaVeN> i love staind....
[10:59] <BeatYou> i make an m3u for each album i have, so instead of having to que up all the mp3s for an album, i que one m3u
[10:59] <MidNightRaVeN> oooOOOOoo
[10:59] <Panzerboy> morning
[10:59] <psy> one_love_1980, was that for me?
[10:59] <BeatYou> eg. my 10 hours of bob marley albums ;] 
[10:59] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[10:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope thats not it >.<
[10:59] <jamesDOOD> any idea how to use dialup in the ubuntu installer (warty warthog)?
[10:59] <jamesDOOD> or in text interface?
[11:00] <psy> Does anyone know how to open any sound configurer for ALSA using Warty Warthog?
[11:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /boot/grub/grub.conf <---dosen't exist >.<
[11:01] <one_love_1980> i mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:01] <noob-leech> Does anyone know how to play APE files on Rhythmbox?
[11:01] <one_love_1980> ubuntu is slightly different than most distros
[11:02] <one_love_1980> suse, gentoo for example
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm pretty sure you put it on the "kernel" lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and i would have said that before but I thought people knew more than me
[11:02] <one_love_1980> yes on the kernel lines
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tiglionabbit thanx
[11:02] <psy> Does anyone know how to open any sound configurer for ALSA using Warty Warthog?
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> noob-leech: read this thing
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> !multimedia
[11:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[11:03] <nxvl> can i broke a CD-ROM making "cat some.iso > /dev/hdc" ??
[11:03] <tiglionabbit> psy: um, no, I don't.  But I know of system/comp -> prefs -> multimedia systems selector, and that you can set alsa options in many programs
[11:04] <one_love_1980> knew more than you hah!
[11:04] <psy> I need to detect my onboard sound, I don't have a sound card and have fixed this problem by running alsaconf or alsaconfig in the past...
[11:04] <one_love_1980> thought
[11:04] <one_love_1980> duh
[11:04] <noob-leech> tiglionabbit: Yes, but it doesn't tell what are the necessary files to play APE files.
[11:04] <Poromies> hi guys, i have a question: Is there any way for me to use bios-update that has been made to use with windows? (i.e. double-click on the "install new bios" file on windows and voil)?
[11:04] <MidNightRaVeN> if i wanted to copy a file in term... would i do cp <filename> <location> ?
[11:05] <noob-leech> *files necessary
[11:05] <Poromies> would be se sweet to get this new bios to work, it fixes my memoryspeed (+20% faster than now)
[11:06] <psy> I have a AC'97 Audio onboard sound, how do I configure this in ubuntu?
[11:06] <tiglionabbit> noob-leech: it doesn't?  I'm sure jasonchen knows which ones, and he wrote the guide.  Best bet would be to install gstreamer0.8-plugins, which will grab you support for all of the different formats
[11:06] <Poromies> or is it so that i need to ask for a linux-bios update from the manufacturer?
[11:07] <noob-leech> gstreamer0.8-plugins no longer supports APE due to some license issues.
[11:07] <one_love_1980> you can update without ever entering the operating system
[11:07] <ethics> psy ac97 is a codec find the chipset using lspci
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> really?  grr, well I don't know..  it'll be gstreamer0.8-something
[11:07] <psy> ethics, lspci?
[11:07] <psy> ethics, nevermind
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> psy: it's a terminal command
[11:07] <Poromies> one_love_1980: how? put the bios file on cd and boot?
[11:08] <ethics> psy its a command will list devices on pci bus
[11:08] <Panzerboy> do you guys ever rest ? :)
[11:08] <psy> ethics, figured the command out, looking now
[11:08] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[11:08] <MidNightRaVeN> gm7
[11:08] <anacron> Panzerboy: they did in the morning!
[11:08] <MidNightRaVeN> doh
[11:08] <one_love_1980> your bios should have a bios update feature that is accessable at boot you hit a key when the bios screen comes up
[11:08] <Panzerboy> lol
[11:08] <noob-leech> tiglionabbit: There is a gstreamer-monkeysaudio; however, it's ancient and does not support most of my files.
[11:09] <anacron> Panzerboy: but i think it was somekind of coffee break anyway
[11:09] <one_love_1980> then navigate the menus
[11:09] <noob-leech> Anyway, thanks for your help.
[11:09] <psy> ethics, there are a few things saying chipset
[11:09] <psy> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (re
[11:09] <psy> rev 3 that is
[11:09] <Panzerboy> anacron: yeah, and I bet they have this plan ... you know ... to have the break one at the time :)
[11:09] <Poromies> one_love_1980: ok thanks, all I basicly need to know that it is possible thanks. I'll go google out more instructions, thanks :)
[11:09] <noob-leech> Probably the only way is to modify the source.
[11:09] <Panzerboy> anacron: so that the channel is never uncovered :)
[11:09] <noob-leech> =/
[11:09] <ethics> psy look for audio or media
[11:10] <psy> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (r ev 12)
[11:10] <psy>  82801BA/BAM?
[11:10] <MidNightRaVeN> so can we use Azeurus on ubuntu?? or is there a better ap?
[11:10] <anacron> Poromies: i think mbnet has good article about that updating bios from medias like cd-rom and usb stick, and get finally rid of that stupid diskette
[11:10] <Panzerboy> MidNightRaVeN: i am using it as we speak
[11:10] <psy> ethics,  82801BA/BAM?
[11:11] <Panzerboy> !azureus
[11:11] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Panzerboy
[11:11] <Panzerboy> heh
[11:11] <MidNightRaVeN> Panzerboy: is just download and install? or how do i get it and work it?
[11:11] <noob-leech> MidNightRaVeN: I think there is a BitTornado if you prefer.
[11:11] <MidNightRaVeN> lol
[11:11] <noob-leech> *perfer it
[11:11] <noob-leech> The backport repos has it, I think.
[11:11] <zerok> short question: do you think that this qualifies as howto? ;-) http://weblog.zerokspot.com/posts/425/
[11:11] <Poromies> anacron: will check that one out
[11:11] <Panzerboy> MidNightRaVeN: i have apt-got it
[11:11] <ethics> psy hmm doesnt sound right...that looks like a intel sata chip number or BMaster
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> oh shoot...
[11:12] <MidNightRaVeN> *sigh* so lol it's on the backports?
[11:12] <psy> ethics, Intel, yes, no BM
[11:12] <ethics> psy: try seeing if its realtek aln-650 or something lioke that?
[11:12] <Panzerboy> MidNightRaVeN: yes
[11:12] <anacron> Poromies: if you don't have accounts i can give the file for you (i've got plenty of those :3)
[11:12] <Panzerboy> it must be on backports :)
[11:12] <ethics> psy : sometimes they are less than obvious....
[11:12] <Poromies> anacron: yea i have account :)
[11:12] <MidNightRaVeN> *runs to the backports to get azuerus
[11:13] <Panzerboy> MidNightRaVeN: Filename: dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/azureus_2.3.0.2-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[11:13] <psy> ethics, only realtek thing is an ethernet controler.
[11:13] <ethics> psy anyways if you want you could try alsaconf....you may need to apt-get alsa-base or something although im not sure i come from debian mainly
[11:13] <ethics> psy try alsaconf from commandline as root see if it is installed
[11:13] <MidNightRaVeN> can you give me the full http possibley?
[11:13] <Panzerboy> MidNightRaVeN: of the repo?
[11:14] <MidNightRaVeN> of just the file?
[11:14] <Panzerboy> lol
[11:14] <phanter> is there something like a windows shortcut to a file in linux ?
[11:15] <acid2> phanter, yes
[11:15] <Panzerboy> phanter: yes
[11:15] <acid2> "man ln"
[11:15] <Panzerboy> ofc
[11:15] <psy> alsaconf: command not found
[11:15] <psy> ethics, alsaconf: command not found
[11:15] <Panzerboy> phanter: on the desktop ?
[11:15] <Panzerboy> psy: sudo alsaconf maybe ?
[11:15] <Panzerboy> nope, not there
[11:16] <one_love_1980> what do you mean phanter?
[11:16] <phanter> Panzerboy, yes on the desktop
[11:16] <psy> Panzerboy, sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[11:16] <Panzerboy> psy: maybe you are missing some packages
[11:16] <Panzerboy> psy: do a sudo apt-cache search alsa
[11:16] <psy> ok
[11:16] <Panzerboy> phanter: right click on the desktop then create launcher
[11:16] <psy> Panzerboy, lots of files
[11:16] <Panzerboy> phanter: from there it should be pretty obvious
[11:17] <Panzerboy> psy: 1 sec
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> is there a way to create a list of all of the files in multiple directories in order of their modification dates
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> ?
[11:17] <Panzerboy> psy: it must be in alsa-base or alsa-utils
[11:18] <phanter> Panzerboy, thnx a lot
[11:18] <Panzerboy> phaedrus_: u're welcome
[11:19] <Panzerboy> psy: just found this post on linuxquestions.org where it says that alsaconf is actually NOT in that packages ... hmmm ...
[11:19] <Panzerboy> psy: check this out, maybe it helps you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/63/2005/05/3/323621
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> something that would end up like "dir1/file2.txt, file4.txt, dir3/dir8/file9.txt," all relative to the place I ran the command...   =p I'd use LS, but I don't think it can go that far.  *reads the manual*
[11:20] <BeatYou> nikkia you still here ?
[11:20] <nikkia> yes
[11:20] <phanter> Panzerboy, can it make shortcuts to files on a FAT partitiion (i get a permission denied error)
[11:20] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: yes, use find
[11:21] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: find . -type f
[11:21] <Panzerboy> phanter: it depends on how you've mounted that partition
[11:21] <Panzerboy> phanter: try to mount it with -o umask=0222
[11:21] <BeatYou> nikkia: any idea why when i upload a file the default chmod is set to 600
[11:21] <BeatYou> very annoying
[11:21] <nikkia> BeatYou: its probably in the config somewhere
[11:21] <psy> arg
[11:21] <nikkia> BeatYou: local_umask=022
[11:21] <one_love_1980> yeah umask setting in your /etc/profile
[11:21] <psy> OK, I got ventrilo working on LINUX! now I have no sound cause of a dumb sound card...
[11:22] <nikkia> one_love_1980: we're talking about vsftp, not shell umask
[11:22] <psy> or lack there of.
[11:22] <one_love_1980> you can change local or global
[11:22] <The_Vox> nikkia: you are the one that mentioned beep-m-p, right?
[11:22] <phanter> Panzerboy, I did umask=0000, but I'll change it and try it
[11:22] <MidNightRaVeN> welp... once again 64 bit is my folly... oooo weeellll... no azureus
[11:22] <nikkia> The_Vox: yes
[11:22] <one_love_1980> oh sorry
[11:22] <The_Vox> nikkia: do you know if there's an arts output plugin for it? it does seem better than xmms...but it's useless for me without an arts output plugin :)
[11:22] <one_love_1980> still though same thing
[11:22] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: wow thank you
[11:23] <phanter> thnx
[11:23] <nikkia> The_Vox: there should be
[11:23] <BeatYou> nikkia: this in the config ?
[11:23] <Panzerboy> lol, i didn't know that so much high quality free music exists
[11:23] <nikkia> BeatYou: yes
[11:23] <Panzerboy> free as in beer :)
[11:23] <The_Vox> nikkia: I've found rpms for the damn thing...but it's not mentioned in the plugins page for bmp and I can't find the origin of those damn rpms anywhere lol!
[11:24] <nikkia> The_Vox: i use the alsa plugin, and have alsa setup with dmix
[11:24] <BeatYou> nikkia: wow, thanks man
[11:24] <BeatYou> worked perfect
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> MidNightRaVeN: why not use bittornado-gui ?
[11:25] <Panzerboy> actually i find azureus a bit too bloated for what i need
[11:25] <Panzerboy> so i guess i'm gonna ditch it
[11:26] <Panzerboy> the gnome bittorrent gui included seems just fine
[11:26] <The_Vox> nikkia: never mind, found it...it's in the "extra plugins" package
[11:26] <Panzerboy> and i saw on planet ubuntu the other day that some guy is working on some other gui for bt for gnome
[11:26] <Panzerboy> it will be in breezy apparently
[11:27] <BeatYou> when is breezy supposed to be released anywho ?
[11:27] <BeatYou> october ?
[11:27] <Panzerboy> BeatYou: october
[11:27] <Panzerboy> yeah
[11:27] <Panzerboy> 6 months
[11:27] <Panzerboy> :)
[11:27] <BeatYou> cool
[11:27] <Panzerboy> 5.10 :)
[11:27] <dale_> would anyone here be able to help me with a simple desktop config problem?
[11:27] <othernoob> MidNightRaVeN: why would Azureus not run on 64bit?
[11:27] <Panzerboy> dale_: shoot
[11:27] <noob-leech> ABC rocks, but it's no longer maintained. T_T
[11:27] <dale_> panzerboy: how do you set desktop icon's font colour? sounds stupid i know
[11:28] <nikkia> othernoob: lack of a 64bit java for a start
[11:28] <lok> mmh ?
[11:28] <Panzerboy> dale_: tough question this one
[11:28] <Panzerboy> :)
[11:28] <acid2> What will Breezy change?
[11:28] <othernoob> nikkia there is 64bit java..
[11:28] <Panzerboy> dale_: never thought about such thing
[11:28] <lok> othernoob, Azureus works on amd64
[11:28] <acid2> Lots of security fixes?
[11:28] <Panzerboy> !breezy
[11:28] <othernoob> lok i know
[11:28] <othernoob> lok i wonder why he thinks it doesnt
[11:28] <nikkia> othernoob: not in the standard repositories, which is where MidNightRaVeN is looking, i imagine
[11:29] <nikkia> othernoob: he?
[11:29] <lok> mmmmmh
[11:29] <Panzerboy> acid2: see !breezy
[11:29] <Panzerboy> hmm
[11:29] <acid2> !breezy
[11:29] <othernoob> nikkia, yea well, maybe should look on java.sun.com then
[11:29] <dale_> panzerboy: interesting, white text on a white background just doesn't work
[11:29] <acid2> ubotu Someone already said that 23 seconds ago
[11:29] <acid2> :P
[11:29] <othernoob> nikkia, i assume that Midnightraven is a he ;)
[11:29] <ubotu> acid2: I give up, what is it?
[11:29] <acid2> o.O
[11:29] <acid2> !breezy
[11:29] <othernoob> nikkia,i know that you're a girl :p
[11:29] <nikkia> othernoob: ah, i thought you were referring to me
[11:29] <acid2> There we go
[11:29] <Panzerboy> i have no idea why ubotu started to answer me in a private window
[11:29] <Panzerboy> strange
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !breezy
[11:29] <Panzerboy> actually
[11:29] <nikkia> othernoob: thats not an assumption i'd make tho
[11:30] <Panzerboy> from memory, breezy is will be the next version of Ubuntu (5.10). It will be released on october 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. If you want to know what the main differences are between Breezy and Hoary, see http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[11:30] <acid2> Panzerboy, that didnt explain what breezy will change
[11:30] <Panzerboy> this is what they say
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> !breezy
[11:30] <Panzerboy> acid2: go to that site
[11:30] <acid2> ok
[11:30] <Panzerboy> and see for yourself
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> grr, who is breezy-ing ubotu in private =P
[11:30] <othernoob> nikkia why? i'm pretty sure mid is a guy
[11:30] <Panzerboy> there are lots of changes
[11:30] <Panzerboy> to many to be listed in a chat room
[11:30] <acid2> Ooo, some nice changes :)
[11:30] <BeatYou> !breezy
[11:31] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: have no idea, just did a !breezy and ubotu responded privately :)
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> Panzerboy: maybe they changed him.  Shame...
[11:31] <Panzerboy> yeah
[11:31] <BeatYou> !apache2
[11:31] <ubotu> BeatYou: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:31] <Panzerboy> !multimedia
[11:31] <Madeye> Guys, is there a british based Dict dictionary
[11:31] <ubotu> hmm... multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[11:31] <Panzerboy> now it answers here
[11:31] <Panzerboy> !breezy
[11:31] <BeatYou> weird...
[11:31] <BeatYou> !apache2
[11:31] <Panzerboy> for some topics it answers in the channel
[11:31] <BeatYou> !php4
[11:31] <ubotu> BeatYou: I don't know
[11:31] <Panzerboy> and for others in private
[11:32] <BeatYou> !webmin
[11:32] <ubotu> BeatYou: Wish i knew
[11:32] <nikkia> Madeye: wbritish/ibritish
[11:32] <BeatYou> !mysql-client
[11:32] <ubotu> No idea, BeatYou
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: is find -type f to find their creation date or modification date?  It doesn't seem to be giving me the right results for modification date
[11:33] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: type f = all files
[11:34] <lesshaste> I have a Sony Ericsson k750i and would like to transfer some images off it (via a usb cable). Is there any way to do this in linux?
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: uh...  I wanted it sorted by date
[11:34] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: guess you can pipe the results to sort
[11:34] <BeatYou-z> did i just get k-lined for calling ubotu a mean name
[11:34] <Madeye> nikkia, How to add it please?
[11:34] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: also ls --sort time may be good
[11:35] <Panzerboy> BeatYou: apparently not :)
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> Panzerboy: well, I want it to sort them independently of the directories they are in..  does it support that?
[11:35] <BeatYou> heh
[11:35] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: not directly i think
[11:36] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: i guess you might have to write a script
[11:36] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: but then again, i ain't no bash expert
[11:36] <BeatYou> !wiki
[11:36] <BeatYou> !wiki breezy
[11:37] <rob^> !breezy
[11:37] <rob^> hmm
[11:37] <BeatYou> !wiki kubuntu
[11:37] <light_punch2> i just installed ubuntu, the status screen make me very nervous. it just keep on unpacking, thought it's never goin to end hehe.
[11:38] <one_love_1980> it will end :}
[11:38] <BeatYou> light_punch2: it will, and then youll do and apt-get upgrade and watch it do it some more
[11:38] <nikkia> Madeye: wbritish is the package name, choose it in whichever package manager you prefer
[11:38] <paul> !kiss breezy
[11:38] <ubotu> paul: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:38] <acid2> Will breezy have a graphical bootloader?
[11:38] <ethics> tiglionabbit, maybe find has the option...it does directories more like you want i think
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> hmm, I guess there is no way to make ls not sort by directories first
[11:38] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: you're not going to be able to do it solely with find...
[11:38] <hussam> by next month, will breezy be fit enough for testing?
[11:39] <tiglionabbit> I know.  I could use find's printf options to make it print the date before each file, then sort that, and delete the dates
[11:39] <BeatYou> !wiki developers
[11:39] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: yeah, the tricky part there is sorting on date
[11:39] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: yeah
[11:39] <nikkia> tiglionabbit:  i don't think 'sort' offers a 'by date' option
[11:39] <ethics> tiglionabbit, you could try 2 stepping it...grepo for directories first time grep for not directories next time?...
[11:39] <Panzerboy> no, only ascii sort
[11:39] <light_punch2> BeatYou, where is mc? is that being substitute with another app or just apt-get it.
[11:39] <Panzerboy> afaik
[11:40] <Panzerboy> light_punch2: apt-get it
[11:40] <tiglionabbit> urk...
[11:40] <tiglionabbit> maybe this really is impossible unless I write a script
[11:40] <nikkia> tiglionabbit:  if you can get the date in unix 'seconds from epoch' and padded with 0s, you could sort based on that easily
[11:40] <BeatYou> light_punch2: yes sudo apt-get upgrad
[11:40] <BeatYou> upgrade*
[11:41] <ethics> tiglionabbit, what about by time or atime?
[11:41] <ethics> tiglionabbit, doesnt sort right?
[11:41] <horatiocat> what is good for dvd authoring?  dvdsyler?
[11:42] <evader> Hi. I'm trying to normalize my Music collection (mp3's mainly). I have installed mp3gain, but how do I use it?
[11:42] <evader> Or is there something that will just normalize on the fly for rhythmbox?
[11:42] <acid2> evader, nothing that will do it on the file, afaik
[11:42] <acid2> try "man mp3gain" ?
[11:43] <evader> mmm. i just dont want to break all my music and normalize it wrong.. or strip all the tags or something
[11:43] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: tbh, i'd be tempted to write a 'date sort' script in python, it wouldn't be much work
[11:43] <zukalk> back it up
[11:43] <tiglionabbit> ooo!  there is a seconds since 1970 function in find!
[11:44] <IceDC571> okay, i installed ubuntu server. after that, how do i install the X window system?
[11:44] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: there you go, format that so it has 0 padding and sort'll happily sort it
[11:44] <evader> apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:44] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: can I do that with printf?
[11:44] <tiglionabbit> I know printf can put spaces in
[11:44] <nikkia> tig, yes
[11:44] <tiglionabbit> er, how
[11:44] <nikkia> tig %05.5d
[11:44] <IceDC571> evader: someone told me x-window-system-core, im confused
[11:44] <ethics> tiglionabbit, also have a look at dir and see if it does the same as ls ...sometimes its funny to look at
[11:44] <nikkia> tig, or whatever number of digits you need
[11:45] <BeatYou> nikkia: have you seen these graphs haha - http://vsftpd.beasts.org/#performance
[11:45] <evader> IceDC571, *shrug* it probably depends on each other
[11:45] <tiglionabbit> thanks guys
[11:45] <BeatYou> hard to imagine a HDD could stand up to that many concurrent connections
[11:45] <evader> so just install one
[11:45] <light_punch2> where is the grub config file? /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:45] <evader> and the other will follow
[11:45] <IceDC571> evader: i dont know, it wont start x automatically thats my problem
[11:45] <ethics> tiglionabbit, try dir --full-time for instance...
[11:45] <nikkia> BeatYou: its probably a SAN or something
[11:45] <IceDC571> IceDC571: i also installed gdm but i guess that doesn't want to start up either
[11:45] <IceDC571> lol oops
[11:45] <BeatYou> nikkia: says its from someones internet site
[11:46] <nikkia> BeatYou: or maybe just a local raid array, either way, it won't be a single disk
[11:46] <lesshaste> ubuntu live cd fails to recognise my serial mouse (thinks it is ps/2) how can I fix that?
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> how many digits should I pad this with?
[11:46] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: erm, dunno, what's the current date in epoch-absolute format ?
[11:46] <horatiocat> what is good for dvd authoring?  I have tried dvdstyler?
[11:46] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: find the number of digits in the current epoch-absolute, and add a couple of digits for safety :)
[11:47] <Amaranth> wow, someone has a serial mouse?
[11:47] <action09> hi all
[11:48] <nikkia> BeatYou: just before it says 'a large internet site' it mentions that redhat use vsftp, i bet i know which large internet site :)
[11:48] <BeatYou> heh
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> hmm, it doesn't really matter, because the major digit hasn't ever changed over the course of my editing these files.  Yay, it works wonderful, thank you guys so much
[11:48] <BeatYou> suse and debian use it to
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> now I need a "delete the first 10 characters on every line" function in vim
[11:48] <BeatYou> wonder why ive never heard of it before
[11:48] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: i use find for a lot of stuff, its amazing what you can do with it, really
[11:49] <P3L|C4N0> Mouse serial? replace /dev/input/mice by /dev/ttyS0 in xorg.conf
[11:49] <IceDC571> so i guess startx doesnt work.. or did they remove that command these days?
[11:49] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: s/^..........// :)
[11:49] <Amaranth> IceDC571: It probably doesn't work on breezy.
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: it's still around, or at least I thought
[11:49] <asad2k5> can some one tell me if it is possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: oh yeah, thanks
[11:49] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: there's probably a way to use a numeric multiplier on . but i can't remember it, and its easy to type 10 .s :)
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: you're pretty clever
[11:49] <Hali_303> Hi! what is the minimum size of an ubuntu install?
[11:50] <IceDC571> so if startx displays command not found, does that mean i dont have X installed?
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> I believe it's .{10}
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> but I could be wrong
[11:50] <nikkia> sounds about right
[11:50] <IceDC571> Amaranth: lol no im not using breezy thank you very much
[11:50] <BeatYou> anyone know what generates these neat png traffic analysis? - http://vsftpd.beasts.org/traffic.png
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I don't know.  I coulda sworn I'd used it before though, but that could be because xfce created it
[11:50] <nikkia> tig, you could also pipe the output from sort thru 'cut'
[11:50] <BeatYou> ive seen them everywehre
[11:50] <asad2k5> Is it possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd
[11:51] <horatiocat> i installed a debian deb using -f and now I can't install anything else using apt without removing it.  What can I do?
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: wow...  I could do this all in a single line, that's amazing
[11:52] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: well i did a fresh server install.. then sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core xfce4. shouldnt that be enough to get X started?
[11:52] <IceDC571> then i was like, maybe it needs a display manager so i installed gdm
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> dunno if cut is what I want though..  unless I can figure out how to make \n my delimiter
[11:52] <light_punch2> how do i check the disk space usage of a partition? hda4
[11:52] <horatiocat> df -h
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: you need xserver-xorg, don't you?
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> !info xserver-xorg
[11:53] <ubuntu-es> tiglionabbit: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[11:53] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB
[11:53] <nikkia> tig, -d<ctrl-v><ctrl-m>
[11:53] <light_punch2> thx horatiocat
[11:53] <IceDC571> maybe i forgot that, eh? lets see
[11:53] <hahahasam> hey I'm completely new to Ubuntu and linux in general - I have no idea how to install the skype program I just downloaded... feel stupid...
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: hm?
[11:54] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: if you're just trying to cut the first 10 chars from every line though, you should just be able to do   cut -c10-
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> !info skype
[11:54] <ubuntu-es> tiglionabbit: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[11:54] <hahahasam> !info skype
[11:54] <ubuntu-es> hahahasam: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> I'm pretty sure skype is in there
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> =\ guess not
[11:54] <P3L|C4N0> ubuntu-es, google lucky skype
[11:54] <thoreauputic> x-window-system-core should install xserver-xorg - you might need to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get X up and running
[11:54] <ubuntu-es> P3L|C4N0: http://www.skype.com/
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> and what's up with this ubuntu-es thing?  It annoys me..
[11:55] <silmaris> <-- send a msg <txt> to every channel whree you are in
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> make it not respond to our !info s
[11:56] <thoreauputic> whoever runs ubuntu-es - it conflicts with ubotu and i don't see a need for it
[11:56] <dikadika> hello can anyone tell me if installing ubunto via ftp or http is supported?
[11:56] <Hali_303> when using the ubuntu live CD, is it possible to have some settings like printer setup stored permanently on the HDD?
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> woot, alright, thank you nikkia.  I have now broken my record for the longest command I've ever written.
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> find -type f -printf "%A@ %h%f\n" | sort | cut -c12- > fileorder.txt
[11:57] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: that's tiny :P
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> lol
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> but it's so awesome
[11:57] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: let me know when you start having to use line continuations to get around bash's input length limit :)
[11:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> using splashy i get this error what does it mean?
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> it has a limit?
[11:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/311090
[11:58] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: 1024 characters, iirc
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> wow
[11:58] <asad2k5> Is it possible to install ubuntu on to hard disk from a live cd
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> why would I ever need to do that though?
[11:58] <rob^> asad2k5, no not yet
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> asad2k5: yes, using chroot
[11:58] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: i've written single (well, piped) commands that long before :)
[11:58] <rob^> well, not easily anyway
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> or, I think it is.  It probably wont be a very good install though
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> you'll need to apt-get everything
[11:59] <rob^> just grab the install iso
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: show me
[11:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone?
[12:00] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: i don't have them in my history
[12:00] <asad2k5> tiglionabbit, is it hard to do it with charoot
[12:00] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: bash's history sucks anyway, rewriting a shared history between bash instances is something i have on my todo list :P
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> asad2k5: well, I haven't done it, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a terminal junky who knows what he's doing
[12:00] <rob^> asad2k5, no, but you will need to do a bit of reading..
[12:00] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: i normally have 10-20 bash instances running, and only 1 gets to write the history file :/
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here use splashy?
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> there's only one history file, and all of them overwrite it?  that sucks
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or knows how to make the boot look more like knoppix?
[12:01] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: yeah, as i said, rewriting bash to use a shared history between instances is on my todo list :)
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> I only really have 4 or 5 instances, but most are running programs, so the history usually gets recorded right
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with the colours and tux and stuff?
[12:02] <asad2k5> Actually I tried installing from install cd 64 bits but failing right at the end of copying packagesto hard disk ( system hangs)
[12:02] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: it also means some changes to ! tho, to allow you to pull out items based on date/time and/or terminal used
[12:02] <lesshaste> ubuntu live cd fails to recognise my serial mouse (thinks it is ps/2) how can I fix that?
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> asad2k5: perhaps your disk is scratched
[12:02] <P3L|C4N0> lesshaste, Mouse serial? replace /dev/input/mice by /dev/ttyS0 in xorg.conf
[12:02] <zukalk> ChurcH_of_FoamY, apt-cache show linuxlogo - this might help
[12:03] <asad2k5> but i have installed debian on to same partition with no problem
[12:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> zukalk , i have never used that command before syntax?
[12:03] <zukalk> it's just to see the info about package linuxlogo
[12:03] <lesshaste> P3L|C4N0, thx!
[12:03] <zukalk> read the description
[12:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[12:03] <zukalk> (you can use Synaptic)
[12:04] <playboy> hi which kernel is used by ubuntu hoary ?
[12:05] <rob^> 2.6.10
[12:05] <zukalk> 2.6.10
[12:05] <rob^> ah beat ya!
[12:05] <rob^> :P
[12:05] <zukalk> eheh
[12:05] <playboy> oki thanks :)
[12:05] <Madeye> nikkia, I've just installed wbritish and worldlist-large but now How to use it? there is no command line or GUI
[12:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know this splashy error > http://pastebin.com/311090
[12:06] <nikkia> Madeye: you should have been prompted to choose which dictionary dict/ispell/wspell uses
[12:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and that linux logo isen't the same as knoppix >.<
[12:06] <nikkia> if you were, and you selected british, then you juse use dict/ispell/wspell as normal
[12:06] <tiglionabbit> oh no, my long command did something wrong
[12:06] <zukalk> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i wouldn't know, never tried it
[12:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want to make the ubuntu boot as close to knoppix as possible
[12:06] <zukalk> why?
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just for the eye candy and to attract customers
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> it deleted some of the \s in the directory trees, so it looks like some things are just long filenames
[12:07] <Madeye> nikkia, ispell installed with ibritish, hmm cant I use this database from gdictionary GUI ?
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and show them that linux is good for anything ^_^
[12:07] <nikkia> Madeye: no idea, i don't use qdictionary
[12:07] <Madeye> nikkia,  ok, is there any other gui to use this database?>
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> alot of people respond better to eyecandy than just a demo
[12:08] <siimo> does anyone want any gmail invites still :-/
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: know any reason why it would have cut out some of the wrong characters there?
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> siimo: lol, I got 50 too
[12:08] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: no idea, unless your sort output wasn't right
[12:09] <nikkia> Madeye: i think kdict uses whichever database is selected as the default in 'dict'
[12:09] <nikkia> Madeye: which should be british, after installing wbritish
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: yeah, my sort wasn't right...  maybe it's in my printf command to find
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Madeye: you might be able to specify in /etc/dict.conf I think
[12:09] <nikkia> oh, no, kdict uses the internet dictionary
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> yep
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> it misses some of the /s
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> "%A@ %h%f\n"
[12:10] <nikkia> quite honestly, hardly anything uses the system-wide dictionary, everything that has a spell check tends to use its own dictionary :/
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> oh oh, I know why
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> hehe sorry, it's because %h is the directory and %f is the file, but there isn't a / between those.  So I'll put one in
[12:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn no documentation on the net for colourizing ubuntu's boot text like knoppix >.<
[12:11] <Madeye> thoreauputic,  jad@madi:~ $ more /etc/dict.conf
[12:11] <Madeye> /etc/dict.conf: No such file or directory
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> my really long command grows by one character!  =P
[12:11] <thoreauputic> sorry /etc/dictd/dict.conf
[12:11] <pepsi> boo
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Madeye: ^^^^
[12:12] <iamdaone> hello everyone
[12:12] <bigfoot1> hello: where is the chat log of Xchat located
[12:12] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:12] <bigfoot1> hi iamdaone
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sorry about the knoppix stuff guys i just made my first cd and was stunned by the priity boot colours and such
[12:12] <Tomcat_> bigfoot1: ~/.xchat2/.xchatlogs
[12:12] <hussam> why isn't there a CD2/3 for hoary with the rest of packages?
[12:12] <siimo> bigfoot1, if you tick the option its in ~/.xchat-2
[12:13] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I suppose it is in your home folder under .xchat
[12:13] <Walkman> Help anyone please
[12:13] <Tomcat_> bigfoot1: ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ :)
[12:13] <Tomcat_> The first one was wrong.
[12:13] <onkarshinde> Walkman: What help do you need?
[12:13] <iamdaone> ubuntu is kicking butt, its leading its nearest competitor by 900 points in Distro watch
[12:13] <iamdaone> LOL
[12:13] <bigfoot1> Tomcat_, siimo, onkarshinde: thank you.
[12:13] <Walkman> How coud I change my system locale or at least reginal settings ??
[12:13] <Walkman> UB 5.04
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Walkman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales I'd say
[12:14] <Walkman> regional, sorry
[12:14] <Tomcat_> That only changes charsets...
[12:15] <thoreauputic> base-config perhaps?
[12:15] <Walkman> yeah ... it shows me the week beginning with Sun, but ours is with Mon
[12:15] <Walkman> It shows me the time with PM/AM ... but ours is 24-hr time ...
[12:16] <pepsi> but the week _does_ start on sunday :)
[12:16] <nikkia> pepsi, not in france
[12:16] <Walkman> pepsi: No, It does not.
[12:16] <pepsi> heh
[12:16] <Walkman> pepsi: It starts on Monday in Europe
[12:16] <Tomcat_> I'd like to know that too...
[12:16] <nikkia> walkman, not all of europe :P
[12:17] <pepsi> why not start it on wednesday then?
[12:17] <Tomcat_> I want an English Ubuntu, but with German locale... somehow. ;)
[12:17] <pepsi> that could be fun
[12:17] <Walkman> Eastern Europe at least
[12:18] <Walkman> pepsi: It was not fun yesterday when I was booking my bus tickets thinking that the last day of the week is Sun, but looking at UB calendar with Sun as the 1st day ...
[12:18] <pepsi> :(
[12:19] <Walkman> It amlost ruined my schedule ...
[12:19] <Tomcat_> Walkman: You can, as mentioned, use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales", choose the locales for France (fr_FR probably) and then log into gnome using that locale...
[12:19] <Tomcat_> Walkman: But that will not only make your country settings French, but also the menus and programs.
[12:20] <catfox> anyone know what packages i need to get gstreamer support in beagle? ./configure comes back with no support for it
[12:20] <nikkia> Tomcat_: except walkman needs estonian or something :)
[12:20] <Walkman> I'll gve it a try .... My choice would be RU locale or ET ....
[12:20] <Tomcat_> Oh... why did you mention ...
[12:21] <Tomcat_> Oh I misread that, sorry.
[12:21] <Madpilot> 24hr time can be set easily. My (English Canadian) Ubuntu install displays 24hr time...
[12:21] <Tomcat_> Yeah choose whatever locale you're in, but that will also change your language, which is my problem.
[12:21] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: Oh yeah... that can be done in the date&time settings.
[12:21] <ColonelKernel> what is the deal with commercial versions of linux -  are ALL versions of linux available free if you get the iso for free or can some versions of linux give out the iso but charge somehow for the use of the distro
[12:21] <nikkia> Walkman: et_EE
[12:21] <ColonelKernel> speaking specifically of astaro
[12:21] <light_punch2> is there a default app on ubuntun to test my modem? like kppp.
[12:22] <nikkia> Walkman: that should change your locale (and language) to estonian
[12:22] <Madpilot> Tomcat_: yup. WTH is "internet time", though?
[12:22] <Tomcat_> ColonelKernel: define free
[12:22] <pepsi> heh, swatch internet time
[12:22] <pepsi> @nnn
[12:22] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: Something Swatch (from Switzerland) invented... one day = 1000 beats
[12:22] <nikkia> Madpilot: a stupid gimmick by swatch that never caught on, thankfully
[12:22] <Walkman> Wow, It showed me a lot of locales checked with [*]  ... en_ZA, en_ZW ...
[12:23] <nikkia> tomcat, it was a marketting gimmick, 'oh look, put everything in internet time, then buy our patented watch with internet time display'
[12:23] <dikadika> anyone have information on how to install ubuntu via ftp/http?
[12:23] <Madpilot> Tomcat_, nikkia: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html   <-- this, right?
[12:23] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: The only good thing I saw in it was the fact that there's no daylight saving and the same time for everybody on the planet.
[12:23] <nikkia> Madpilot: yes
[12:23] <cyphase> anyone want a specific feature in an IRC bot?
[12:23] <Madpilot> Tomcat_: that's what ZULU is for. (GMT, whatever...)
[12:23] <pepsi> a suicide feature so that the bot no longer exists
[12:23] <nikkia> Tomcat_: the downside is swatch was the only company legally allowed to sell watches displaying the time :)
[12:23] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: Yeah, UTC rocks.
[12:24] <Tomcat_> nikkia: Heh... didn't know that.
[12:24] <Tomcat_> I'd much rather have a watch showing Unix time, although nobody could read it. :D
[12:24] <nikkia> Tomcat_: feh, go with java time :)
[12:25] <nikkia> Tomcat_: milliseconds since 1 jan 1970 :)
[12:25] <Madpilot> Tomcat_: there's always binary clocks, if you want an unreadable clockface...
[12:25] <nikkia> Madpilot: i can make my watch unreadable with a rock, and its far cheaper :P
[12:25] <light_punch2> is there a fax application on  5.04?
[12:26] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: binary clocks are way more readable than epoch time :)
[12:26] <Walkman> Well, I changed my locales, chose the default one, what next ?
[12:26] <Madpilot> nikkia: :D
[12:26] <nikkia> light_punch2: efax, hylafax, etc etc
[12:26] <Trixsey> Hello, I've heard that one can use World of Warcraft, the MMORPG, with Ubuntu through Wine! Anyone knows more about that?
[12:27] <Madpilot> Tomcat_: Unix epoch time just seems incredibly geeky...
[12:27] <Tomcat_> Walkman: Log out, choose the locale at the login screen, then log in.
[12:27] <nikkia> Madpilot: and binary time isn't ?!?
[12:27] <Madpilot> like Gregorian recast for geeks...
[12:27] <light_punch2> nikkia, are those the defaults? or i have to apt-get it?
[12:27] <nikkia> light_punch2: you'd have to apt-get it
[12:27] <nikkia> light_punch2: afaik, there is no default fax package installed
[12:27] <Walkman> Okay, let's see...
[12:27] <marshal> Hello people. This is my first time on irc and my english is't very good so excuse me, but i have a problem installing kaffeine from source: while doing make i got that error: "dvbpanel.cpp:28:18: qapp.h: No such file or directory
[12:27] <marshal> ". I search in google but nothig. Can any one help me??
[12:27] <Madpilot> nikkia: they all are. I'll stick with Zulu & local, in real digits!
[12:27] <light_punch2> nikkia, how can i test if my modem is ready for use?
[12:28] <Trixsey> Is anyone here familiar with Wine?
[12:28] <Whistler> sure
[12:28] <Whistler> :)
[12:29] <nikkia> Madpilot: besides, there's a *useful* geek time :)
[12:29] <nikkia> Madpilot: that being julian
[12:29] <Madpilot> nikkia: right, Julian. not gregorian, that's calenders... :P
[12:30] <nikkia> J2000.0 is more useful than plain julian tho
[12:30] <nikkia> maddler: its a time too, as it specifies the time as a floating point number since noon
[12:30] <nikkia> Madpilot even
[12:31] <nikkia> Madpilot: since astronomy events are usually specified in J2000.0 format, its a *useful* geek time format, which is more than  you can say for the others :)
[12:31] <nikkia> Madpilot: btw, if you count julian/J2000.0 as a calendar rather than a time, then you can't count unix epoch-absolute either :)
[12:32] <elton> any girl 23
[12:33] <Walkman> Well... it worked for estonian locale, but it said the ru-KOI8 or ru-UTF-8 does not exist ...
[12:33] <Walkman> Any ideas please ?
[12:34] <nikkia> Walkman: you might need to install language-pack-ru-base, language-pack-ru-update, and things like mozilla-locale-ru  etc
[12:34] <Madpilot> nikkia: i've messed about with julian - a space sim I played in Windows used it.
[12:34] <flodine> can you load shine fonts in ubuntu
[12:34] <iamdaone> www.linuxsucks.org
[12:35] <iamdaone> its a funny site
[12:35] <nikkia> Madpilot: you mean J2000.0, right?
[12:35] <iamdaone> because its become a linux advocacy site
[12:35] <iamdaone> it was started against linux
[12:35] <nikkia> J2000.0 isn't QUITE julian, there is an offset
[12:35] <iamdaone> and a bunch of linux advocates took it over lOL
[12:35] <iamdaone> I just stumbled on it
[12:35] <Computer__Guru> nikkia
[12:35] <Computer__Guru> help me
[12:35] <Computer__Guru> i killed firefox
[12:35] <Computer__Guru> actually, mozilla in general is screwed
[12:35] <Walkman> Well, okay ... I'll do it ... I thought about it ... but it seemed that I had these packages ... I'll check ...
[12:36] <dikadika> does anyone know if you can remote install??
[12:36] <nikkia> altho, if it was MS Space Sim, i think it used an older 'corrected' julian format, B1959.0 i think
[12:36] <Madpilot> nikkia: not sure. www.orbitersim.com - pity there isn't a Linux/OpenGL version of it...
[12:36] <nikkia> ah, orbiter, i'm fairly sure that does use J2000.0
[12:36] <Computer__Guru> every time i go to a page with flash, BOOM. crash.. if I remove $HOME/.mozilla i can get to a page until i installt he flash plugin, then boom
[12:37] <nikkia> Computer__Guru: don't install the flash plugin then :P
[12:37] <Neil3> Hey all is anyone successfully using the Epson C46UX printer in Ubuntu?
[12:37] <Computer__Guru> ive uninstalled and reinstalled firefox
[12:37] <Computer__Guru> but i want flash
[12:37] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, how did you install the flash plugin?
[12:37] <Computer__Guru> through firefox
[12:37] <Seveas> bad idea :)
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> damn.  Yeah.
[12:37] <Seveas> install flashplayer-mozilla from apt
[12:37] <Computer__Guru> but ive tried the one from mm as well as flashplugin-nonfree
[12:37] <Madpilot> Neil3: http://www.linuxprinting.org/  <-- checked this out?
[12:37] <Computer__Guru> tried that one too
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> I've observed that if I right-click on 3 different flash files in a row in firefox, it crashes
[12:38] <pbtraveller> Hi I am having problems starting a tftpd-server to update my phone, atftpd -v /tftpboot returns [directory]  must be a world readable/writable directories. By default /tftpboot is assumed.
[12:38] <Computer__Guru> as soon as there's a flash player installed, everything goes boom
[12:38] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, that one works fine here, are you on amd64 perhaps?
[12:38] <Neil3> Madpilot, yep, I looked there and searched google lots and looked around the gimp-print site, couldn't find anything about this printer :(
[12:38] <Computer__Guru> no
[12:40] <Trixsey> Hello, I've heard that one can use World of Warcraft, the MMORPG, with Ubuntu through Wine! Anyone knows more about that?
[12:40] <Computer__Guru> this sucks
[12:40] <rob^> !cedega
[12:40] <ubotu> well, cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[12:40] <Computer__Guru> i have no clue what's broken
[12:41] <rob^> try that Trixsey
[12:41] <Seveas> Trixsey, read what ubotu said :)
[12:41] <Trixsey> Cedega is better than Wine?
[12:41] <Computer__Guru> and the output im getting from firefox isnt telling me jack shit
[12:41] <Seveas> Trixsey, for games: yes
[12:41] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, try running it from the terminal and paste the output on a pastebin
[12:41] <Computer__Guru> sure why not
[12:42] <Computer__Guru> {jay@psilocybin (~)}$: firefox
[12:42] <Computer__Guru> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[12:42] <Computer__Guru> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[12:42] <Computer__Guru> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>   (Details: serial 117 error_code 8 request_code 147 minor_code 3)
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[12:42] <Trixsey> But World of Warcaft works through Cedega?
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[12:42] <Computer__Guru>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> I'm quite impressed with The Gimp.  I can edit 40 images in it at the same time and it doesn't crash
[12:42] <rob^> Computer__Guru, dont paste in here
[12:42] <rob^> use a pastebin
[12:42] <Computer__Guru> wtf is a pastebin?
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> !pastebin
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Computer__Guru: you were told
[12:43] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[12:43] <rob^> see the topic
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> Computer__Guru: and you call yourself a Computer Guru?
[12:43] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: gimp annoys me sometimes :/
[12:43] <Computer__Guru> ah, i see
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: hows that?
[12:43] <Computer__Guru> dude, shut the hell up, im in here trying to solve a very cryptic problem, i dont need shit from you
[12:43] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: mostly because i keep running into things that end up with 'hmmm, i'll have to write ANOTHER gimp-script :/'
[12:43] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, please watch your language
[12:43] <Computer__Guru> will do
[12:43] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, you too
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> Computer__Guru: I was talking about the not reading the /topic and not knowing what a pastebin is part
[12:44] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: and there is no decent 'glow' plugin by default
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Computer__Guru: well, pay attention to what you're told
[12:44] <jcoxon> hey all
[12:44] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: in fact, i find that the 'drop-shadow' plugin with offsets of 0,0 makes for a better glow than the 2 standard ones, which is a bit sad
[12:44] <CarinArr> i have a desktop with two small hds and one big one, i have windows installed on one of the small ones and linux on the other. i want both of them to be able to read and write to the big hd.. what would be a good filesystem to make sure both windows and linux can access them without problems
[12:44] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: ah.  Well, I've never really used those features, except on text.  And I draw pretty much with the black pen
[12:44] <Seveas> CarinArr, FAT32
[12:45] <Computer__Guru> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/487
[12:45] <Computer__Guru> there ya go
[12:45] <londonboi2k3> Morning guys, one of the IT guys here at work has asked me if there is a way to fool websites in to thinking that Firefox is IE? I know there used to be an extension for this? Could you tell me if this is still the case and where you would find info on it. Thanks very much
[12:45] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: my scripts are almost all to do with layers, since i often edit images with 50-200 layers :/
[12:45] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: for example, since there's no 'turn all layers except this, off' option, i had to write one as a script
[12:45] <tiglionabbit> CarinArr: the only format I know of that both windows and linux can read is fat32
[12:46] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, file that (with a detailed description of what you did) as a bug on launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> why so many layers?  Animated gif?
[12:46] <CarinArr> seveas, see that's what i'm using now on the big one, maybe i've not mounted it correctly.. cause i can read and write, i.e. i can do mkdir etc etc.. but if i try to say untar a file on the drive, or copy directories to that drive i get errors
[12:46] <anacron> londonboi2k3: why don't you search firefox extensions page?
[12:46] <londonboi2k3> anacron, I have done that, but cant find anything
[12:46] <Seveas> CarinArr, can you please paste the error on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:46] <londonboi2k3> that is why i am asking here
[12:46] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: our artist supplies artwork with all graphical elements as seperate layers, positioned as they should be on the screen
[12:46] <londonboi2k3> maybe i missed something?
[12:46] <CarinArr> kay 1 sec..
[12:46] <nikkia> tiglionabbit:  so if we have 200 graphical elements on the screen, it'll be 200 layers
[12:46] <Computer__Guru> Seveas: i dont want to file it as a bug because i know i did it
[12:47] <Computer__Guru> Seveas: i just dont know how to undo it, heh
[12:47] <anacron> londonboi2k3: too bad then, if there would be such a thing, i thing i should be listed there :)
[12:47] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: tbh, i asked him to start supplying artwork like that, because its a lot easier to cope with than seperate .psd's per element, and then having to guess where they're supposed to be positioned
[12:47] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, well, if you removed ~/.mozilla, purged firefox and the flashplugin and then reinstalled it all, it cannot be all your fault
[12:47] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: yeouch, why so many?  Heh, what I want to do some day though, is make a drawing program with a completely different concept of layers.  One that would allow you to avoid using layers for most of the things people use them for
[12:47] <londonboi2k3> anacron, true, there used to be something there, but i cant find it anymore, But there must still be a way ro do this?
[12:47] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: 200 sprites on a screen isn't a lot
[12:48] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, remove ~/.macromedia too by the way and retry once more
[12:48] <anacron> londonboi2k3: i'll check if i can find something
[12:48] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: bear in mind, that things like push buttons will be 2-3 sprites, normal, pushed, and disabled
[12:48] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: user agent switcher I think is the extension name
[12:48] <catfox> hi all. how do i get top to list the processes that are taking the most memory? i've looking at a box with 100% memory usage
[12:48] <Computer__Guru> Seveas: don't have a .macromedia
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> catfox: top
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> oops
[12:48] <CarinArr> seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/489
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> misread
[12:49] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: btw, i think that concept of not using layers is flawed, 95% of the power of gimp and photoshop comes from effective use of layering :)
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> man I should probably sleep
[12:49] <Computer__Guru> Seveas: thing is i was trying to get a standalone flash player working and i installed a few different swf/flash libraries.. ive uninstalled (even purged) all of them, but the problem persists
[12:49] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/useragentswitcher
[12:49] <Madpilot> off to get some sleep myself. later, all
[12:50] <Seveas> CarinArr, use tar mzxf
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: what I mean is a system that would intelligently slice things for you based on the lines you draw, in a vector-like way, so that fills could be handled as if they were separate layers, but in a much quicker way...
[12:50] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, ahh, so some crap may still be left on your drive
[12:50] <londonboi2k3> thoreauputic, Thanks for that, willl check it out
[12:50] <catfox> any ideas?
[12:50] <Computer__Guru> but what? and where? and what would firefox be aware of?
[12:50] <catfox> ahh shift+M
[12:50] <Seveas> catfox, have you read the manpage for top yet?
[12:51] <paul> Is it a mistake to install kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[12:51] <Computer__Guru> youc ant install kubuntu INSTEAD of ubuntu
[12:51] <Computer__Guru> kubuntu is part of ubuntu
[12:51] <paul> oh
[12:51] <Computer__Guru> i suppose technicallyy ou could use the kubuntu live cd
[12:51] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, try purging firefox and all flash-related stuff, then manually remove the firefox dir and the flash dirs (possibly some .dirs in your ~)
[12:51] <Computer__Guru> but why
[12:52] <Seveas> Computer__Guru, kubuntu is not 'part of' ubuntu
[12:52] <paul> So why did ubuntu go for the gnome interface?
[12:52] <Computer__Guru> thats what the webpage says :)
[12:52] <Seveas> kubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of packages (KDE-centric) installed by default
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> Computer__Guru: what are you talking about?  There is a kubuntu install cd
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> paul: I think it would be best to install them both.  Grab an install cd for one, and then grab ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop from apt to get the other one's components
[12:52] <Computer__Guru> there is? nifty, all i saw was the website saying to install ubuntu then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <paul> Cool.  Will do.  Thanks
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> paul: I dunno, I like gnome.  It feels homey
[12:53] <Seveas> :)
[12:54] <aru> gnome is sexy
[12:54] <paul> tiglionabbit:  I used to use gnome but the kde has me in a spin.
[12:54] <sam_> are there even any big differences between the two?
[12:55] <othernoob> how can i play vobsub subtitles with kaffeine?
[12:55] <Computer__Guru> well, im going to retire for the day
[12:55] <Computer__Guru> i'll work on this later
[12:55] <Computer__Guru> ty everyone
[12:56] <Computer__Guru> i hate when i break stuff and dunno how to fix it.. its rare but it really sucks when it happens
[12:56] <Seveas> sam_, quite
[12:56] <Seveas> Kubuntu is KDE-centric
[12:56] <Seveas> Ubuntu is gnome-centric
[12:57] <Seveas> (the default install)
[12:57] <Seveas> But they use the same repositories, so you can easily install a hybrid system that can do both KDE and gnome
[12:58] <othernoob> so technically, it isn't quite a difference Seveas ;)
[12:58] <aru> I did that, but then my gnome menus werent so pretty
[12:58] <sam_> heh
[12:58] <Seveas> othernoob, only the default install
[12:58] <Seveas> aru, known 'bug' -> will be fixed for Breezy
[12:58] <othernoob> of course, you can only compare default
[12:58] <aru> I knew kde was a bug
[12:59] <Seveas> :D
[12:59] <sam_> still. what are the major differences?
[12:59] <aru> that wasn't what you meant, was it :)
[12:59] <Seveas> aru, no, but I do agree :)
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> yeah, you guys, do you know why they made a /usr/share/applications/kde ?  gnome can't see it
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> what's worst about it is, it contains most of the files from its parent folder too, so XFCE sees both and has duplicates of most everything in its menu
[01:01] <hahahasam> can someone tell me how to actually download VLC from this site? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> hahahasam: is it not good enough to use synaptic?
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> !vlc
[01:01] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formatsbb and excellent streaming support
[01:01] <Seveas> hahahasam, you don't
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> !info vlc
[01:01] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[01:01] <thoreauputic> hahahasam: don't bother - it's in the ubuntu repos anyway
[01:01] <Seveas> simply install it with synaptic
[01:01] <othernoob> hahahasam: just use synaptic
[01:01] <hahahasam> syn what?
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> hahahasam: enable the universe repository and get it from synaptic
[01:01] <Seveas> hahahasam, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[01:01] <thoreauputic> !repos
[01:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:02] <hahahasam> thanks guys!
[01:02] <thoreauputic> hahahasam: that will tell you how to enable repos
[01:02] <catfox> has anyone here ever suceeded in getting bootsplash working with ubuntu?
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[01:02] <ubotu> sources is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[01:02] <othernoob> so, while we're talking about media players, would anyone happen to know how to play vobsub subtitles with kaffeine?
[01:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi ubotu
[01:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu hi
[01:02] <ubotu> privet, church_of_foamy
[01:02] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: I'd use vlc, totem, or mplayer instead
[01:03] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: vlc displays em in black, not good..not good..really not good. mplayer crashes because it can't decode the audio. and i don't have totem
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: you don't have totem?  But it's standard for ubuntu...  you can get it
[01:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know why i can connect to irc.austnet.org? with x-chat?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> !totem
[01:04] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: No idea
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> !info totem
[01:04] <ubotu> totem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[01:04] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: yea well, i have kubuntu and really, 3 media players should be enough ;)
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> !info totem-gstreamer
[01:04] <ubotu> totem-gstreamer: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on gstreamer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 3784 kB
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: oh, I didn't realize totem didn't come with kubuntu
[01:05] <othernoob> well it's a gnome based prog
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> !info kaffeine
[01:05] <ubotu> kaffeine: (versatile media player for KDE 3), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.6-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1130 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB
[01:05] <othernoob> just like ubuntu doesn't come with kaffeine
[01:05] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: if you have kaffeine, totem-xine uses the same xine backend
[01:05] <Whistler> how can i install kylix?
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> well I have ubuntu and kubuntu, so I can't tell the difference
[01:06] <sam_> isnt this gnome vs kde a bit annoying?
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> sam_: yes.  Just get both
[01:06] <thoreauputic> sam_: both have their advantages, it's a matter of taste really
[01:07] <Whistler> where can i get kylix?
[01:07] <Walkman> Since you are talking about packages and synaptic, I've got some question. My root password, when asked, does not work with synaptic and other utilities, but in terminal with 'su' command works ok ?
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: uh, I haven't heard of that.  Is it on jdodson's game list?
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[01:07] <ubotu> newusers is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: ubuntu uses gksudo for its gui.  This uses your user password, not root
[01:08] <Walkman> Why is that ? How to fix this ?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> Whistler: isn't Kylix a bit long in the tooth? Haven't seen much about it for years
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: the ubuntu developers decided that it was easier for users to only have one password
[01:08] <P3L|C4N0> Whistler, http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_kylix.html
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> oops
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> I meant those both to go to Walkman
[01:09] <Seveas> Walkman, this is fixed
[01:09] <Seveas> using a root password is a bug and insecure
[01:09] <Seveas> Walkman: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:09] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: calling kylix a game did seem a bit odd :P
[01:09] <Shorty`> !java
[01:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:09] <Walkman> Okay, I will.
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: oh oops, what is it then?
[01:09] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: the linux equivalent/version of delphi
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> nikkia: oooh hehe sorry, thought the name sounded game-like, and assumed if it wasn't in the repos it must be a game
[01:10] <Whistler> =] 
[01:10] <Whistler> :D
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> flawed logic I know
[01:12] <aru> where do you set what applications open for certian file types?
[01:13] <Chongo> hi, i'm in the process of trying to move over to ubuntu 5.04 from windows xp. when i plug in my lacie d2 usb hard drive, it doesn't mount, and i'm not sure what to do. can anyone help me? i formatted it with FAT32 using partition magic yesterday.
[01:13] <aru> DUH
[01:13] <aru> nevermind
[01:13] <Walkman> Seveas: It does not fix my problem. Still, it does not work. I tried both - my password and the root password - I get only errors
[01:14] <Seveas> Walkman, what is the output of: sudo synaptic
[01:14] <Seveas> (in a terminal)
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: you must be in the admin group, and listed in sudoers (visudo) but listen to Seveas first
[01:14] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, only one of these is neccessary :)
[01:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ! java howto
[01:14] <ubotu> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:15] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: either/or, or just the sudoers?
[01:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok
[01:15] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, the admin group is in /etc/sudoers by default
[01:15] <Walkman> Seveas: Hmm ... interesting ... my first and only user does not apper to be in sudoers file (the message says)
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> oh
[01:16] <nikkia> walkman, your user probably is member of 'admin' group
[01:16] <Seveas> Walkman, have you installed hoary clean or upgraded from warty?
[01:16] <nikkia> if you notice, %admin has sudo privs in the sudoers file
[01:16] <Walkman> Seveas: Clean hoary, from DVD
[01:16] <Seveas> nikkia, not if you upgraded from warty...
[01:17] <Seveas> Walkman, odd, you said you have set a root password?
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: I was pretty sure I installed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 from hoary-extras or somewhere like that.  Is this possible?
[01:17] <Walkman> Seveas: Yes I did
[01:17] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, ack
[01:17] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: yea
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: ack what?
[01:17] <pepsi> Seveas: did i tell you i borked my desktop with breezy? im sure you're proud
[01:17] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: but why did you install the jre as well?
[01:18] <Walkman> Seveas: I used "expert" install
[01:18] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: the jdk comes with the jre
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> oh
[01:18] <Seveas> Walkman, then drop to another VT (with <ctrl><alt><f1> (<alt><f7> brings you back to the gui)) and add your first and only user to the sudoers file
[01:18] <G|immer> hello everybody
[01:18] <Seveas> Walkman, yeah, that skips sudo :)
[01:18] <Chongo> does anyone have a solution for my question? i can't see the drive in device manager either, whether i plug it in directly, or into my powered usb 2 hub
[01:18] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, java is in hoary-extras
[01:18] <Seveas> but i'd rather refrain from advising it unless neccessary
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: yeah.  So why do you instruct people otherwise?  I thought hoary-extras was supported now
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> they fixed the konversation thing
[01:19] <Trixsey> How long does it take to download and compile cedega? I been waiting for 5 min now
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Trixsey: 5 minutes? You poor thing ... </irony>
[01:20] <Walkman> Seveas: Where could I find "sudoers file"
[01:20] <Seveas> Walkman, /etc/sudoers
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> Trixsey: ever download something on broadband that takes your 8 hours?  I have
[01:21] <aru> why does my file browser window jump around when I open a new folder?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> Walkman: use the "visudo" command
[01:21] <Trixsey> thoreauputic,  how big is it then? I've got a 10mbit connection :( And I'm not downloading something now... This is compiling
[01:21] <Trixsey> A smaller program
[01:21] <podge> tiglionabbit: Something like the latest season of Lost? :)
[01:21] <sam_> lost. bleh
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> aru: guess it's configured that way.  I believe there are guides for how to change it.  You change configs for it in applications -> system tools -> configuration editor.  apps -> nautilus
[01:21] <othernoob> if only lost was really..lost..
[01:22] <podge> sam_: hehe..
[01:22] <thoreauputic> Trixsey: I have no idea how big it is - I don't use it
[01:22] <podge> Anyone here installed Windows 2000 lately? ;)
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> podge: uh, no...    ragnarok online, the english hacked version for windows.  And a few other things
[01:22] <Juul> i have a dell D410 laptop (with a i915 graphics card) and i've seen others write that everything worked fine, and it does, X boots up fine and i get the startup sound, but the display just goes blank when X starts
[01:22] <rwabel> hi
[01:22] <rwabel> Anyone using kernel 2.6.11? any problems with it?
[01:23] <Seveas> rwabel, 2.6.11 is known to be broken and unsupprted
[01:23] <Trixsey> nvm
[01:23] <Trixsey> its done now
[01:23] <thoreauputic> rwabel: known issues with 2.6.11
[01:23] <Seveas> rwabel, do NOT use the ubuntu 2.6.11 packages
[01:23] <rwabel> seveas: thanks
[01:23] <othernoob> Seveas: why is 2.6.11 not supported?
[01:23] <rwabel> seveas: I've read in forums about some problems. good to know :-)
[01:23] <G|immer> i have successfully messed up my grub installation and could not even boot into windows. had to do a reinstall of Ubuntu! lol
[01:23] <Chongo> hello. i am trying to mount my lacie d2 usb hard drive. when i plug it in directly or to a powered usb 2 hub, it doesn't mount automatically like my flash drive. it doesn't appear in the device manager as far as i can see. can anyone help?
[01:24] <Walkman> Seveas: Well, there is a root only, should I copy the same parameters for my account kinda "ALL =(ALL) ALL"  ??
[01:24] <Seveas> Walkman, indeed
[01:24] <podge> tiglionabbit: Have not played it.. The screenshots on the site look good though..
[01:24] <idontknowdou> Is there a Linux equivelent to MS Visual Studio?
[01:24] <Seveas> idontknowdou, eclipse
[01:24] <Timbo> anjuta, kdevelop
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> podge: meh, it's just an RPG.  I don't really like em.  If you must play a crazy korean online game for windows, try gunbound
[01:24] <Walkman> Seveas: Thank you. Gosh, it's good to learn something new
[01:25] <podge> G|immer: You could have booted off your LInux installation CD and fixed the grub.conf..
[01:25] <Seveas> (or people like me would say: vim)
[01:25] <Timbo> eclipse isn't really analogous to VS
[01:25] <G|immer> podge: i did, and i mounted the linux partition, but did not know what to do :'(
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> idontknow why people would want to use VS
[01:25] <podge> tiglionabbit: I play two online games.. those being Unreal Tournament (original) and Call of Duty..
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> other than that they have windows and it beats dev-c++
[01:26] <ColonelKernel> I play ut2004, counterstrike, and desertcombat
[01:26] <podge> G|immer: What did you change to stuff it up? :)
[01:26] <Walkman> idontknowdou: There is nothing equivalent to VS, sorry.
[01:26] <othernoob> people still play counterstrike...weird world...weird world..
[01:26] <aru> that window thing is the only little annoyance I have now :)
[01:26] <podge> idontknowdou: What language do you want to develop in?
[01:27] <ColonelKernel> othernoob, good way to test out cedega functioning
[01:27] <G|immer> podge: i used Partition MAgic in windows to change 1st partition on 2nds HDD to FAT32 so i can safely use it with Linux. I then found som 8mb of free space before the 2nd partition, so I added them to it. and.. bang.. Grub said Error 17 and died. lol
[01:27] <Timbo> Walkman: anjtuta or kdevelop are pretty close
[01:27] <Walkman> idontknowdou: Along with VB, VC#, there is nothing like this in Linux. I switched to Java from VS.
[01:28] <podge> G|immer: That sounds bad.. the 8MB free space is usually for partition alignment..
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: why not C?
[01:28] <Timbo> Walkman: C# is available on linux
[01:28] <othernoob> ColonelKernel: i never grasped the concept of terrorist vs antiterrorist and buying weapons while you run around :/
[01:29] <G|immer> podge: i guess it was, because after messing with it, it tortured me the whole of yesterday. hehe
[01:29] <podge> Timbo: Have you used the Mono dev environment?
[01:29] <ColonelKernel> othernoob, its watching the blood fly out, plus it aims and shoots realistically
[01:29] <ColonelKernel> if you aint hackin
[01:29] <Walkman> tiglionabbit: Because it is not quite that simple for everyone. Some people start from VB and then VC# ... and so on ...
[01:30] <othernoob> ColonelKernel: yes blood, what could one want more ;)
[01:30] <podge> How many reboots to install Ubuntu? 1? Windows 2000 = 10+ after patches and drivers and virus scanning etc..
[01:30] <ColonelKernel> guts?
[01:30] <othernoob> good point..
[01:30] <othernoob> gooood point
[01:30] <idontknowdou> vb??
[01:30] <raven3x7> hi
[01:30] <idontknowdou> where what is that initial for?
[01:30] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: but there's "The C Programming Language, by Kernighan and Ritchie"
[01:30] <G|immer> About 4 days ago, a link was posted here to a websile.. something.ubuntulinux.nl I think, which had links to recommended repositories. Can someone re-post it please?
[01:30] <msieradzki> so: i changed to breezy and i have error in x-common
[01:30] <msieradzki> this **** package contains only some /usr/share/doc
[01:31] <msieradzki> and symlink in /usr/
[01:31] <Walkman> idontknowdou: yep, some start from the easiest ...
[01:31] <msieradzki> how can i decompress .deb archive and manually change something in it?
[01:31] <idontknowdou> is there a java studio for Linux?
[01:31] <mindspin> where do i install true type fonts?
[01:32] <nikkia> idontknowdou: eclipse or netbeans
[01:32] <thoreauputic> msieradzki: file-roller will decompress a deb, or use dpkg -x from memory
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[01:32] <msieradzki> and how to compress them again?
[01:32] <msieradzki> i have some awful errors when updating
[01:32] <Walkman> tiglionabbit: how about something like Thinking in Java, by Bruce Eckel" and like "UML and patterns, by C. Larman" :-)
[01:33] <Chongo> hello everyone. i am trying to switch to ubuntu from windows, but i am being stumped by my lacie d2 usb hard drive (formatted with FAT32). when i plug it in, it doesn't automatically mount, does anyone know how to mount things manually?
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: uh..   but that's about Java
[01:33] <Chongo> it doesn't show up in the device manager
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: who would want to learn Java?
[01:33] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: some are forced to :/
[01:33] <Walkman> tiglionabbit: Java works for me just fine
[01:33] <raven3x7> how does one deal with md3sum mismatch? do you report it somewhere?
[01:33] <Panzerboy> Chongo: try first sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:33] <raven3x7> md5sum
[01:33] <Panzerboy> Chongo: and see if there is a partition
[01:34] <Whistler> what is default ubuntu root user pass?
[01:34] <Panzerboy> Chongo: if not, try the same with /dev/sdb
[01:34] <Seveas> Whistler: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:34] <raven3x7> Whistler , there is no root
[01:34] <Seveas> there is no root password
[01:34] <Seveas> there is root :)
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> hmm
[01:34] <xfSx> raven that just means your dowen
[01:34] <Panzerboy> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:34] <Hieronymus> raven3x7: us server perhaps?
[01:34] <tiglionabbit> there is only the matrix
[01:35] <xfSx> raven that just means your download failed, dl it again?
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> I mean the sudoers
[01:35] <Panzerboy> Whistler: see !root
[01:35] <Hieronymus> !usserver
[01:35] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I don't know
[01:35] <msieradzki> halo - how to compress to .deb archive when i decompressed it?
[01:35] <raven3x7> Hieronymus yes with mplayer
[01:35] <G|immer> The Gnome CD/DVD Creator does not support multisession?!
[01:35] <Hieronymus> raven3x7: the us server is sorta broken
[01:35] <Walkman> idontknowdou: There is something like Eclipse, NetBeans (I personally use them)
[01:35] <Whistler> thx
[01:35] <Hieronymus> raven3x7: use the general archive.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <tiglionabbit> ew, netbeans...
[01:36] <thoreauputic> msieradzki: have you tried looking in man dpkg?
[01:36] <raven3x7> Hieronymus: will do. thanks
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> I tried to use that program.  It didn't like me
[01:36] <podge> tiglionabbit: Have you tried 4.1?
[01:36] <martigan> hello
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> podge: dunno, what's different?  Does it not crash and screw up and yell at me?
[01:36] <Panzerboy> cool
[01:37] <Panzerboy> let's all start an eclipse vs netbeans vs intellij idea flame :)
[01:37] <Walkman> tiglionabbit: I do not like it either, but stick to Eclipse. Or some text editor for a change & manual .java compiles ...
[01:37] <Panzerboy> wouldn't that be super duper cool ? :)
[01:37] <msieradzki> ahhhh, i forgot but i don't remember
[01:37] <podge> tiglionabbit: Netbeans 4.x is much better than the 3.x series..
[01:37] <Tenoch> Hello everyone, I have a question about the Live CD : is it certain that it wont write anything on the hard drive ?
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> Walkman: I use emacs and vim.  No IDEs for me
[01:37] <Whistler> yep
[01:37] <Tenoch> I'd like to try Ubuntu, but I hav to use a computer that iis not mine
[01:38] <anacron> Tenoch: live cd? :D
[01:38] <Chongo> Tenoch: why don't you download the live cd and give it a try?
[01:38] <Whistler> Tenoch it wont do anyhing to your files
[01:38] <Tenoch> I would be in serious trouble if I damaged the disk...
[01:38] <martigan> i'm sure you will like it ;)
[01:38] <Panzerboy> Tenoch: it is certain it won't write anything on the hard drive
[01:38] <schasi> Someone running eterm with hoary without the problem of umlauts getting shown in a weird way?
[01:38] <schasi> And can tell me how?
[01:38] <IceDC571> hey, im trying to do cdrdao -h but i cant scroll up to see all the commands it listed, how do i make the terminal scrollable?
[01:38] <Tenoch> OK
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> Tenoch: livecd will not write anything to hard disk unless you mount things and chroot
[01:38] <Tenoch> Thanks everyone
[01:38] <Walkman> tiglionabbit: I am new to UB. I have used these in my previous OS: Doors
[01:38] <Tenoch> great
[01:38] <Panzerboy> IceDC571: ctrl+page up doesn't work ?
[01:38] <IceDC571> Panzerboy: i'll try that thanks
[01:38] <Panzerboy> sorry, shift+page up
[01:38] <Panzerboy> ups
[01:38] <podge> IceDC571: Or is it Shift-Page up.. :)
[01:39] <Panzerboy> he left
[01:39] <Chongo> Panzerboy: I couldn't find the partition using either of the lines you asked me to try
[01:39] <podge> Panzerboy: He was in a rush.. hehe..
[01:39] <Panzerboy> Chongo: that's pretty strange
[01:39] <Panzerboy> Chongo: do this
[01:39] <msieradzki> can someone look at it: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/491
[01:39] <anacron> schasi: i think you are using utf-8, and most computers use iso-8859, so change that
[01:39] <Panzerboy> Chongo: take out the drive
[01:39] <Panzerboy> Chongo: open a terminal
[01:40] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:40] <Panzerboy> Chongo: put the drive back in
[01:40] <Panzerboy> Chongo: see if it says something
[01:40] <martigan> Anyone knows what file to edit to enable remote desktop login? My box is to far away to enable it in gnome ;). I have telnet access...
[01:40] <thoreauputic> martigan: telnet? bad news - why not ssh?
[01:40] <aru> i may have asked before, but is there a gnome application for partitioning or formatting hard disks?
[01:40] <Whistler> yes
[01:41] <aru> cool
[01:41] <Whistler> gparted
[01:41] <Panzerboy> aru: gparted
[01:41] <Chongo> Panzerboy: it says lots of things - it seems to detect the usb mass storage driver and load it correctly
[01:41] <aru> thats what it was, knew I already asked
[01:41] <Panzerboy> Chongo: go to pastebin.com
[01:41] <martigan> firewall thoreauputic, i have to set that up asap
[01:41] <Panzerboy> Chongo: and paste there
[01:41] <Panzerboy> Chongo: then paste the link here
[01:41] <schasi> anacron: Are you proposing to switch my entire System to iso-whatever and losing all ' and umlauts i have done on my harddisks?
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> say guys, is it possible to, in a string of commands, read in a list of files from a text file (one file per line) and copy them to a certain directory, renamed as something#.ext so the number increases with each file?
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> I should probably write a script for that =P
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> just curious
[01:42] <thoreauputic> schasi: AFAIK eterm and aterm don't support utf-8
[01:42] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: it is possible with a one line perl command :)
[01:42] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: i am SURE of that :)
[01:42] <anacron> schasi: you can change only your irc client's "encoding"
[01:42] <Panzerboy> tiglionabbit: i just don't know that command :P
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> Panzerboy: yep, was thinking of using perl
[01:42] <schasi> Does my keyboard give utf-8 to the eterm?
[01:42] <thoreauputic> schasi: xterm and gnome-terminal should be fine with utf-8
[01:43] <Chongo> Panzerboy: what do you want me to paste, there's quite a lot?
[01:43] <Panzerboy> Chongo: the usb related stuff
[01:43] <schasi> Because it should display umlautz quite well locally
[01:43] <tiglionabbit> I could do it all in perl too, if I could remember how to copy a file using perl
[01:43] <Panzerboy> what was written when you plugged in the disk
[01:43] <mindspin> sys cp
[01:43] <mindspin> ;-)
[01:43] <aru> gparted doesnt let you change the mount point?
[01:43] <Chongo> Panzerboy: how does this pastebin site work? and do you just want me to paste it in here?
[01:44] <Whistler> i donloaded file via wget and i dont know where it is?
[01:44] <Panzerboy> Chongo: go to pastebin.com
[01:44] <Chongo> Panzerboy: oh i see
[01:44] <Panzerboy> paste it there
[01:44] <Whistler> is there any default path?
[01:44] <Chongo> Panzerboy: duh
[01:44] <Panzerboy> then it should give you a link
[01:44] <Panzerboy> paste the link here :p
[01:44] <thoreauputic> Whistler: in the dir you called it from
[01:44] <Panzerboy> 5. profit !!! :P
[01:44] <spanglesontoast> can i make a distro using ubuntu and lfs?
[01:45] <podge> tiglionabbit: That should be easy to do in bash..
[01:45] <Panzerboy> aru: i guess you would have to unmount it first
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Whistler: wget puts it in your working dir by default
[01:45] <Chongo> Panzerboy: http://pastebin.com/311119
[01:45] <Whistler> thx
[01:45] <Panzerboy> aru: but then again, i've never used gparted
[01:45] <Whistler> spanglesontoast i think you can do it
[01:45] <aru> Panzerboy, the drives arent mounted
[01:45] <raven3x7> so now i installed mplayer but doesnt start. i get this pop up starting mplayer and it just disappears
[01:45] <spanglesontoast> oks cool
[01:45] <G|immer> what do u recommend as a free Gnome burner that supports mutlisession and such? Perhaps a Nero-alike
[01:45] <Whistler> G|immer gnome baker
[01:45] <podge> tiglionabbit: So you have filename.txt and textfile.txt and you want them called filename1.txt and textfile2.txt?
[01:46] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it's strange, it should be on /dev/sdb
[01:46] <nikkia> tiglionabbit: man rename
[01:46] <michael> yeah
[01:46] <michael> hold on
[01:46] <exparrot> this better?
[01:46] <G|immer> Whistler: thanks. it has a nice name, hope it makes bread. lol
[01:46] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb -  what does this show?
[01:47] <Chongo> Panzerboy: when i run the command you asked me to it doesn't show anything
[01:47] <exparrot> anyone know how to eject an in-use CD? I need to pop in "disk 2" for a game install under wine....
[01:47] <Panzerboy> hmm
[01:47] <Panzerboy> strange indeed
[01:47] <Hieronymus> G|immer: sorry to disappoint you, it only toasts CDs
[01:47] <Panzerboy> maybe some module is not loaded?
[01:47] <Chongo> Panzerboy: the drive definitely works, as it was using it to back up 60 gigs of stuff yesterday on windows
[01:47] <ex-parrot> test?
[01:47] <Whistler> G|immer i use it its really functional and simple
[01:47] <G|immer> Hieronymus: darn! hehehehe
[01:47] <Panzerboy> Chongo: well, i have had sort of reverse experience with a usb drive
[01:47] <aru> well poop :\
[01:48] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it doesn't work in windows but it works in linux
[01:48] <Chongo> haha
[01:48] <Panzerboy> true
[01:48] <Chongo> good stuff
[01:48] <msieradzki> wow, i have built .deb file
[01:48] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: try umount -l /dev/cdrom  then eject
[01:48] <Panzerboy> in windows it freezes the machine
[01:48] <G|immer> Whistler: just what am asking for, then. thx.
[01:48] <Panzerboy> so i really don't know what to say
[01:48] <Panzerboy> try browsing ubuntuforums.org
[01:48] <Chongo> Panzerboy: it's just kind of a show stopper in terms of switching to linux, because all my stuff is on it! :-(
[01:48] <ex-parrot> thoreauputic, the drive is still locked !!
[01:48] <Panzerboy> for some usb related problems
[01:49] <Panzerboy> i understand
[01:49] <G|immer> another thing, how can i make files to be owned by both root and my user?
[01:49] <Panzerboy> for me, the drive, the usb stick and the camera worked out of the box
[01:49] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: try prepending sudo to that command
[01:49] <ex-parrot> G|immer, why bother having stuff owned by root?
[01:49] <Chongo> Panzerboy: well, thanks so much for all of the help - you are a legend of the highest magnitude
[01:49] <charles_> where do i get w32codecs
[01:49] <ex-parrot> thoreauputic, it's unmounted but the drive is still locked shut :P
[01:49] <tiglionabbit> podge: no, I have a file that has "file1.ext /dir2/file4.xt file5.ext" on different lines and I want it to end up with "sketch1.gif sketch2.gif sketch3.gif" in some other directory, but i'll just script it...
[01:49] <podge> tiglionabbit: Already learning perl? :)
[01:49] <Panzerboy> Chongo: lol, no problem :)
[01:49] <liable> Chongo: post the results of fdisk.
[01:49] <qt2> ...FOAMY WRATH!
[01:49] <Whistler> charles_ sudo apt-get install
[01:49] <Whistler> charles_ sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:49] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: try sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[01:49] <msieradzki> great, i have installed x-common in my own version :D
[01:49] <tiglionabbit> podge: I got a little of it in school, yeah.  Heh, I'm not super worried about it right now, I know I'll be able to do it when I need to
[01:50] <charles_> Whistler, doesnt exist, yes i have updated repositories
[01:50] <raven3x7> dawm mplayer wont start
[01:50] <RipTheDead> hi
[01:50] <ex-parrot> lovely thoreauputic
[01:50] <ex-parrot> thanks :D
[01:50] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:50] <qt2> pssh.
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> qt2 welcome
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[01:50] <qt2> ;)
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea thats right foamy uses linux
[01:50] <qt2> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you miss what i said?
[01:50] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: how come it doesn't start?
[01:51] <msieradzki> anyone: tried upgrading from hoary to breezy recently?
[01:51] <charles_> Whistler, it doesnt exist :\
[01:51] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: is it giving an error, or smth ?
[01:51] <Chongo> liable: sda just detects my laptop's hard drive partitions, sdb doesn't do anything
[01:51] <tiglionabbit> msieradzki: I'd hope not
[01:51] <G|immer> ex-parrot: they are already set to be owned by root. It seems eveything i do in root terminal is set as owned by root, too?! :(
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> qt2 must have >.<
[01:51] <podge> tiglionabbit: Can you cut and paste a sample of your file on pastebin?..I could give you a script in a few minutes..
[01:51] <msieradzki> hehe, i'm trying now
[01:51] <liable> Chongo: paste 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:51] <msieradzki> yeah i know
[01:51] <msieradzki> don't use breezy yet etc.
[01:51] <charles_> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:51] <charles_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:51] <charles_> is only available from another source
[01:51] <charles_> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[01:51] <Panzerboy> charles_: it is in backports
[01:51] <qt2> ChurcH_of_FoamY, *ahem* well then...
[01:51] <Panzerboy> !backports
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you will all feel my squerlly rath
[01:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:52] <ex-parrot> thoreauputic, now automounting CDs is broken :P
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> podge: don't worry about it, if it takes a script I'll write it myself
[01:52] <qt2> ...foaMY WRATH!
[01:52] <charles_> Panzerboy, thanks
[01:52] <Panzerboy> see what ubotu has to say about backports :)
[01:52] <Whistler> charles_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[01:52] <podge> tiglionabbit: Cool..
[01:52] <qt2> err..
[01:52] <qt2> crap..
[01:52] <ex-parrot> G|immer, chown youruser:youruser files
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[01:52] <Chongo> liable: http://pastebin.com/311121
[01:52] <ex-parrot> to put them back
[01:52] <Panzerboy> umm
[01:52] <qt2> i screwed it up...
[01:52] <Panzerboy> !ubguide
[01:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubguide is Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> qt2 it's ok ^_^ i for give you
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> any got som nice themes for gnome?
[01:52] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[01:52] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: ubuntu doesn't use automount....
[01:52] <ubotu> well, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[01:52] <Panzerboy> yeah, ubotu rulez
[01:52] <qt2> its squirrley... *stabs self in eye with foamy's soda can...*
[01:52] <Panzerboy> !snack
[01:52] <ubotu> Panzerboy: Wish i knew
[01:53] <tiglionabbit> someone made an automatic mounting script though
[01:53] <Panzerboy> :)
[01:53] <charles_> Whistler, lol thnx?
[01:53] <Panzerboy> lol
[01:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:53] <ex-parrot> thoreauputic, it did, I put in the first CD and it automounted to the desktop
[01:53] <raven3x7> Panzerboy: i get a pop up saying "Starting Mplayer" and then it just disappears
[01:53] <aru> how will I know if my changes to fstab worked?
[01:53] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: try from the command line
[01:53] <ex-parrot> damn this game installer, it was going so well!
[01:53] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: you mean gnome isn't putting an icon on the desktop, not he same thing
[01:53] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: try like this: mplayer -vo xv -ao esd <file>
[01:53] <ex-parrot> thoreauputic, I guess not. regardless, it's mounted now and the installer isn't liking it :(
[01:53] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: and tell me if it gives u any errors
[01:53] <podge> Any MythTV users here?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: ah, well that's a differnet issue I guess
[01:54] <ex-parrot> indeed thoreauputic
[01:54] <liable> Chongo: its still plugged in?
[01:54] <Chongo> liable: even now, it is plugged in
[01:54] <anacron> can i make live stream with ubuntu?
[01:54] <ex-parrot> actually, thoreauputic , methinks it has not mounted as it shows as having nothing in it
[01:54] <raisa> eoooo
[01:55] <liable> Chongo: 'sudo lsmod | grep vfat'
[01:55] <Panzerboy> !mplayer
[01:55] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[01:55] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: maybe do a manual mount like ` mount /dev/cdrom ` or whatever
[01:55] <ex-parrot> I did, thoreauputic :)
[01:55] <raven3x7> Panzerboy: i get a segmentation fault
[01:55] <Panzerboy> liable: it doesn't matter if the vfat module is loaded or not, it still has to be shown with fdisk
[01:55] <ex-parrot> now when I try and unmount I get umount: it seems /dev/hdc is mounted multiple times
[01:56] <martigan> anyone knows how to enable remote desktop trough telnet (what file to edit) instead of the gnome/remote desktop menu?
[01:56] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: that's strange, are you using hoary ?
[01:56] <Chongo> liable: done that?
[01:56] <martigan> still searching :(
[01:56] <raven3x7> yeah
[01:56] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: ah - a result of umount -l probably
[01:56] <ex-parrot> :)
[01:56] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: what mplayer package have you installed?
[01:56] <ex-parrot> lazy unmount isn't it? I'm  not quite clear on what it actually does
[01:56] <Panzerboy> mplayer-386?
[01:56] <liable> Chongo: no result?
[01:56] <raven3x7> i tried both 386 and 586
[01:57] <Chongo> liable: nothing happened, i tried fdisk again and there's nothing new
[01:57] <msieradzki> hmm looks like sudo dpkg-reconfigure in breezy tries to generate ALL locales
[01:57] <msieradzki> reconfigure locales
[01:57] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: then it's strane
[01:57] <Panzerboy> strange
[01:57] <liable> Chongo: modprobe vfat
[01:57] <liable> sudo
[01:57] <Panzerboy> have u installed some weird stuff?
[01:58] <raven3x7> Panzerboy: define weird
[01:58] <Panzerboy> liable: again, what's that have to do with fdisk not showing his partitions ?
[01:58] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: duno, another libc?
[01:58] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: backports?
[01:58] <raven3x7> no
[01:58] <raven3x7> no
[01:58] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: try running it with strace
[01:58] <ex-parrot> I'm going to reboot and start again
[01:59] <raven3x7> what is strace? an option?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> ex-parrot: umount -l tries to clear up the mess after umount - I guess it might not have done on this occasion
[01:59] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: strace mplayer blah blah
[01:59] <nikkia> thoreauputic: it tries to clean up after the mount point is no longer in use
[01:59] <Chongo> liable: http://pastebin.com/311126
[01:59] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: it will show a lot of weird stuff on the screen
[02:00] <Hieronymus> raven3x7: man strace for the manual. Always comes in handy :-)
[02:00] <nikkia> thoreauputic: if wine was still marking it busy, its not going to clean up until wine stops
[02:00] <thoreauputic> nikkia: OK - thanks
[02:00] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: but we might find out why it's segfaulting
[02:00] <thoreauputic> nikkia: aha
[02:00] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo modprobe vfat
[02:00] <Trixsey> Anyone here familiar with Cedega? I'm getting a few error messages...
[02:00] <liable> Chongo: sudo first
[02:00] <raven3x7> Panzerboy yeah it did show a lot of debug info
[02:00] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: pastebin-it :)
[02:01] <Panzerboy> the last patyt
[02:01] <Panzerboy> part
[02:01] <Panzerboy> :)
[02:01] <Chongo> liable: it didn't do anything
[02:01] <thoreauputic> nikkia: umount -l worked for another person with a similar problem, so I advised it for this one: he seems to have left though
[02:01] <liable> Chongo: good
[02:02] <liable> Chongo: now unplug it, then plug it in again.
[02:02] <msieradzki> can bugzilla.ubuntu.com say what is my login, it's sending email with link so you can change password but i don't remember my login
[02:02] <raven3x7> Panzerboy: http://pastebin.com/311129
[02:02] <msieradzki> i remember email, password but **** not login
[02:02] <aru> ok, so do I have to reboot to see if my fstab changes worked?
[02:03] <liable> aru: no, just remount.
[02:03] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: see this: /etc/ld.so.nohwcap
[02:03] <aru> whats that mean
[02:03] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: maybe you're missing some codecs
[02:04] <raven3x7> uhm yeah... maybe this asnt the best file to test mplayer. its an avi
[02:04] <Chongo> liable: no dice. but it does screw up the console when i fdisk, i have to quit it and then start it again, because it doesn't go back to the prompt?
[02:04] <msieradzki> ahh succeeded, i found login :)
[02:04] <aru> yeah I dont know what it means to remount
[02:04] <Chongo> liable: oh no seems to be ok now
[02:05] <Chongo> liable: the console that is
[02:05] <liable> Chongo: hmm, but no see?
[02:05] <Chongo> liable: no hard drive :-(
[02:05] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: avi but it can be encoded with many codecs :)
[02:05] <Panzerboy> Chongo: try to mount it blindly
[02:05] <martigan> anyone with a dell mobile m cpu that got scaling working by a change?
[02:05] <Chongo> Panzerboy: how do you do that?
[02:05] <Panzerboy> Chongo: like this sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/drive
[02:06] <Panzerboy> with /mnt/drive directory created first
[02:06] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: did you install the win32codecs package?
[02:07] <raven3x7> Panzerboy : yes although /etc/ld.so.nohwcap is empty
[02:07] <idontknowdou> eclipse is nice
[02:07] <Chongo> Panzerboy: erm, it doesn't seem to want to let me create a directory there?
[02:07] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo mkdir /mnt/drive
[02:08] <Chongo> liable: thanks for the help - you are a legend!
[02:08] <Chongo> ok
[02:08] <othernoob> aru: just type sudo mount -a  to remount /etc/fstab without rebooting
[02:08] <Panzerboy> or
[02:08] <Panzerboy> Chongo: better yet sudo mkdir /media/drive
[02:08] <Panzerboy> it looks like /media is the new recommended directory
[02:09] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: strange, i was googling for this etc/ld.so.nohwcap thing
[02:09] <aru> thanks othernoob
[02:09] <Chongo> oh
[02:09] <othernoob> you're welcome aru
[02:09] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: and there are a lot of strange things related to this
[02:09] <Chongo> Panzerboy: how do you delete a directory
[02:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any one know how to kill the desktop without killing the menu bars?
[02:09] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo rmdir /mnt/drive
[02:09] <Panzerboy> :)
[02:09] <Panzerboy> sorry, my bad :)
[02:09] <Panzerboy> i am so used with mnt
[02:09] <raven3x7> Panzerboy im guessing it shouldn't be empty?
[02:09] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what do you mean..?
[02:09] <kestas> kill the desktop?
[02:09] <Seveas> refreshing the desktop..?
[02:10] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: let me check out mine
[02:10] <Panzerboy> i don't have that file
[02:10] <aru> I have successfully edited fstab myself for the first time, I love me
[02:10] <Panzerboy> try deleting it
[02:10] <Panzerboy> :)
[02:10] <Panzerboy> aru: good for you :)
[02:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no kill it i'm running chbg and it's hiding behind the desktop for some reason
[02:10] <Chongo> Panzerboy: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[02:11] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: nautilus draws the desktop in gnome
[02:11] <liable> Chongo: just sdb, check dmesg again if you have plugged it in again..
[02:11] <kestas> you may be able to change nautilus conf
[02:11] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: see here, maybe you can find something http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mplayer+ld.so.nohwcap&btnG=Search
[02:11] <kestas> not sure though never tried it
[02:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so killing naut would not be a good idea
[02:11] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so it's an extra layer on top of the root window
[02:11] <Panzerboy> Chongo: ok, try with /dev/sdb instead
[02:11] <Panzerboy> Chongo: and if it doesn't work, try /dev/sdb2
[02:12] <Chongo> liable: dmesg?
[02:12] <Panzerboy> Chongo: and if it still doesn't work, then i don't know anymore :P
[02:12] <Panzerboy> Chongo: sudo dmesg
[02:12] <tiglionabbit> nautilus will restart when you kill it.  Don't worry about it
[02:12] <tiglionabbit> try it out
[02:12] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: non-gnome background tools tend to use the root window, so nautilus hides the result
[02:12] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: try to start mplayer with -vo x11 instead of -vo xv
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[02:13] <Chongo> Panzerboy: ooh interesting things in that dmesg thing
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thoreauputic whats a good background program for ubuntu that changes the wallpaper every X minutes?
[02:13] <mpmc> Can someone tell me what's the best php editer for ubunto.
[02:13] <mpmc> u*
[02:14] <anacron> nano :D
[02:14] <Chongo> Panzerboy: http://pastebin.com/311137
[02:14] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah nano has syntax highlighting if you tell it to ;)
[02:14] <mpmc> ok
[02:14] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: for gnome, i don't know - for other window managers you can do it in a number of ways
[02:14] <crankben> Hi, I wonder in which directory the codecs for Mplayer must be copied? Installation instructions say it's /usr/local/lib/codecs but
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[02:14] <Panzerboy> Chongo: checking out right now
[02:14] <Panzerboy> crankben: you can apt-get w32codecs
[02:15] <aru> actually it wasnt successful, I cant write to the disks :)
[02:15] <Panzerboy> Chongo: indeed, interesting things
[02:15] <Panzerboy> Chongo: not very good things
[02:15] <Panzerboy> brb
[02:15] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I prefer other window managers partly for these kinds of reasons - in gnome it's the gnome-way or the highway ;)
[02:16] <aru> /dev/hdc1       /home/aru/mp3   ext3    defaults       0       0 <- shouldn't that work fine?
[02:16] <ed1t> how can i format an ext3 partition?
[02:16] <nightswim> mkfs.ext3
[02:17] <raven3x7> Panzerboy same thing
[02:17] <Tenoch> Re
[02:17] <Tenoch> Booted on live CD
[02:17] <ed1t> no i mean i already have a ext3 parititon....but there is stuff in it, i need to format it
[02:17] <Tenoch> just happy
[02:17] <Tenoch> :)
[02:17] <Seveas> ed1t, mkfs.ext3 formats it...
[02:17] <idontknowdou> when will Breezy badger be worth downloading?
[02:17] <ed1t> k
[02:18] <ed1t> Seveas, but how do i select which partition?
[02:18] <Panzerboy> idontknowdou: in october this year
[02:18] <ed1t> there are like 4 parititons on this hard drive
[02:18] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: sorry
[02:18] <idontknowdou> ok
[02:18] <Seveas> ed1t, mkfs.ext3 /dev/your_partition
[02:18] <ed1t> k
[02:18] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: try to look at some of those links in that google search
[02:18] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: when it's done if you want stable, when you're in the mood when you want to test
[02:18] <aru> using defaults in the fstab should make it writeable right?
[02:18] <mpmc> I meant a GUI editor
[02:18] <Panzerboy> Chongo: maybe the drive got screwed up in the meantime
[02:19] <mpmc> so..  I'm looking for a GUI, editor for PHP
[02:19] <Panzerboy> Chongo: try it again in windows, maybe do a scandisk or smth
[02:19] <mdeboer> hello
[02:19] <idontknowdou> I have no problem with it being a bit buggy, but right now I have heard its a bit of mess
[02:19] <idontknowdou> i want it reasonably stable
[02:19] <Panzerboy> mpmc: quanta
[02:19] <idontknowdou> but it doesn't have to be totally stable
[02:19] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: nah, it works
[02:19] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: I like it
[02:19] <Chongo> Panzerboy: probably not, because i tried plugging it in to my old thinkpad when i was trying out ubuntu 4.10 and it didn't work then either
[02:19] <Panzerboy> mpmc: it's a kde program though
[02:19] <idontknowdou> ok how do I upgrade?
[02:19] <mpmc> I'm in KDE
[02:19] <cantrel29> hello, does anyone know how to fix playback of my ipod in rythmbox. I get this message: file:///media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music/F02/TJTR.m4a when i try and play a tune.
[02:19] <idontknowdou> without losing my data?
[02:19] <idontknowdou> I dont want to do a reinstall I want to upgrade
[02:19] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: are you _absolutely_ sure you want to?
[02:20] <mpmc> quanta has synax highlighting?
[02:20] <idontknowdou> yes
[02:20] <Chongo> Panzerboy: what does it say is the problem?
[02:20] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: you can still run into troubles
[02:20] <idontknowdou> take my chances
[02:20] <cantrel29> sorry: Could not open vfs file "file:///media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music/F02/TJTR.m4a" for reading.
[02:20] <ed1t> Seveas, wats the command to list all the partitions? uname -l ?
[02:20] <ed1t> or something
[02:20] <mdeboer> I am making an Ubuntu (hoary) based LiveCD. It all works fine, until I try to use my custom kernel. Anyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?
[02:20] <Hieronymus> you'll have to fix them yourself, idontknowdou
[02:20] <idontknowdou> can you up upgrade after you upgrade?
[02:20] <krolden> Is it possible to get an up-to-date system using an outdated CD?  Or do I have to download a new iso?
[02:20] <Panzerboy> mpmc: then try sudo apt-get install quanta
[02:20] <mdeboer> I am making an Ubuntu (hoary) based LiveCD. It all works fine, until I try to use my custom kernel. Anyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?
[02:20] <idontknowdou> or un upgrade
[02:21] <cantrel29> i assume this is a permissons problem
[02:21] <thoreauputic> ed1t: fdisk -l
[02:21] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (with sudo) and change hoary into breezy
[02:21] <Panzerboy> Chongo: i am not sure, to me it looks like a hw error
[02:21] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: downgrade will not be easy
[02:21] <idontknowdou> ok
[02:21] <Panzerboy> Chongo: the only think i can tell you is that you should run some diagnostic software on it
[02:21] <Panzerboy> Chongo: scandisk
[02:21] <Chongo> Panzerboy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38714&highlight=external+hard+drive
[02:21] <thoreauputic> ed1t: prepend sudo
[02:23] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it seems like a bug then
[02:23] <ed1t> This filesystem will be automatically checked every 37 mounts or
[02:23] <ed1t> 180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[02:23] <ed1t> wats this?
[02:24] <android> does anyone use the mozilla-mplayer?
[02:24] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: have you done that yet?
[02:24] <krolden> ed1t: it says it will run a check on the filesystem every 37 mounts or in 180 days
[02:24] <thoreauputic> ed1t: fsck runs every 37 mounts by default
[02:24] <Panzerboy> Chongo: all i can tell you is that mine works ... sorry :)
[02:24] <ed1t> oo k
[02:24] <Chongo> Panzerboy: do you have a lacie d2?
[02:25] <idontknowdou> I am in Synaptic
[02:25] <idontknowdou> i don't know where do it?
[02:25] <Chongo> liable: do you have any idea about what this says: http://pastebin.com/311137?
[02:25] <idontknowdou> where do I get the new repository addresses?
[02:25] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it was even mounted in /media/usbdisk automagically
[02:25] <Panzerboy> Chongo: what is that
[02:25] <Panzerboy> ?
[02:25] <idontknowdou> or do I just chance the distro from hoary to breezy?
[02:25] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: if you have, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (without quotes). If it gives you errors, do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (without quotes; the -f will _force_ it)
[02:25] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:25] <Hieronymus> idontknowdou: just change hoary into breezy
[02:25] <raven3x7> Panzerboy thanks anyway. will try xine
[02:25] <Panzerboy> Chongo: in the thread you pasted from ubuntu forums it seems that it is a bug
[02:25] <idontknowdou> ok
[02:26] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: or try vlc :)
[02:26] <mpmc> I'm gonna create an MSN BOT on linux :)
[02:26] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: i heard it's very good
[02:26] <Panzerboy> !info vlc
[02:26] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[02:26] <krolden> Panzerboy: vlc is a bit unstable to my liking
[02:27] <raven3x7> Panzerboy yeah i forgot about that.. i use it on windows duh
[02:27] <Panzerboy> krolden: i must admit i've only used it once
[02:27] <Panzerboy> krolden: my mplayer works, fortunately
[02:27] <Panzerboy> bah, i am spending way too much time on this channel :)
[02:27] <krolden> Panzerboy: mplayer is my fav as well.  xine isn't bad either
[02:28] <Panzerboy> krolden: never used xine
[02:28] <raven3x7> anyone ever tried ogle?
[02:28] <Panzerboy> raven3x7: tried it
[02:28] <Chongo> Panzerboy: thanks for all the help dude! i'll post something on the forums, do you think anyone will be able to fix the bug?
[02:28] <Panzerboy> it's for dvd's
[02:28] <krolden> raven3x7: me too, but didn't really like it
[02:28] <Hieronymus> Chongo: report it if it isn't already
[02:28] <Hieronymus> !bug
[02:28] <ubotu> bug is probably to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[02:28] <Panzerboy> Chongo: mayne in the newer kernels it's fixed already :)
[02:29] <Panzerboy> Chongo: but it is good to report the bug
[02:29] <Chongo> Panzerboy: where do i report it?
[02:29] <Hieronymus> !bug
[02:29] <ubotu> [bug]  to file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[02:29] <Panzerboy> see !bug :)
[02:29] <Chongo> oh
[02:29] <Panzerboy> i guess it's bugzilla
[02:29] <Panzerboy> do an uname -a
[02:29] <Chongo> and what do i call it? what kind of bug is it?
[02:29] <Panzerboy> and report it against the kernel
[02:29] <Panzerboy> i _guess_ it's a kernel issue
[02:30] <Panzerboy> put also there in the report the dmesg and /var/log/messages output
[02:30] <ed1t> how do i mount a fat32 drive?
[02:30] <Chongo> did i start the dmesg output in the right place?
[02:30] <ed1t> and ext3
[02:31] <mr_salt> Hello - My DVD playback is still a bit out of sync despite my best efforts EG setting the DMA and updating /etc/modules - any ideas?
[02:31] <Panzerboy> Chongo: what kernel are you running?
[02:31] <Panzerboy> Chongo: paste here the output of uname -a
[02:31] <Panzerboy> !kernel
[02:31] <ethics> ed1t, man mount
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ed1t: sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/foo /mount/point
[02:32] <thoreauputic> ed1t: vfat for fat32
[02:32] <sektor> hey
[02:32] <Chongo> Panzerboy: Linux Achilleus 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:32] <Panzerboy> Chongo: i see that 2.6.11-1 is out
[02:32] <sektor> the pdf viewers in my ubuntu are of poor quality
[02:32] <Panzerboy> Chongo: maybe it fixes your problem
[02:32] <sektor> anyone know why?
[02:33] <Chongo> Panzerboy: how do i get that?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Panzerboy: 2.6.11 is buggy in Ubuntu
[02:33] <othernoob> Panzerboy: 2.6.11 isn't a good choice on ubuntu
[02:33] <Panzerboy> oh, then listen to these guys :)
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Chongo: don't use 2.6.11
[02:33] <ethics> the pdf format is a convuluted mess
[02:34] <ethics> see version 5-7 in 8 months...makes it tough
[02:34] <Chongo> hmmm
[02:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[02:34] <mr_salt> Hello - can anyone please help with my DVD output, it's very out of sync despite me setting the DMA
[02:34] <mr_salt> I am using xine
[02:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> second week after ubuntized... 8)
[02:34] <Panzerboy> Aragorn_Guardian: good :)
[02:35] <sektor> is adobe available for linux?
[02:35] <sektor> and will that solve the problem?
[02:35] <sektor> the pdf viewer of adobe that is
[02:35] <Panzerboy> sektor: it is
[02:35] <krolden> sektor: acroread
[02:35] <Panzerboy> acroread
[02:36] <sektor> tnx
[02:36] <sektor> gonna try that
[02:36] <sektor> pfd files look crappy with xpdf
[02:36] <ethics> mr_salt, possibly try a different engine...xine or mplayer maybee for 2 different
[02:36] <Chongo> Panzerboy: what were those vfat things that i loaded, and do i need to get rid of them?
[02:36] <Panzerboy> sektor: with acroread they should look fine
[02:36] <mr_salt> ethics: mplayer just crashes all the time for me
[02:36] <ethics> sektor, yeah there is at adobe's site....no idea i use xpdf and most of them are useable
[02:37] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it was the kernel module needed for mounting the partition
[02:37] <Panzerboy> Chongo: you can leave it there, it's not a problem
[02:37] <mr_salt> sektor: it's bot about how they look but how they print!
[02:37] <sektor> ethics: i don't settle for usable ;)
[02:37] <krolden> sektor: make sure you get version 7, cuz 5 does allow you to use the scroll wheel
[02:37] <Panzerboy> Chongo: if you really want to get rid of it, you can try sudo rmmod vfat
[02:37] <sektor> mr_salt: i read a lot on pc, so it is about how they look
[02:37] <sektor> tnx
[02:37] <ethics> mr_salt, you will find it's probably not sure what options to use....mplayer lines can be rather long
[02:38] <ethics> sektor, hehe i dont use many so i dont mind much
[02:38] <sektor> :)
[02:38] <Chongo> Panzerboy: ok, would it try and load it all the time otherwise? / i've noticed that in the media folder there's a subfolder called usbdisk
[02:38] <mr_salt> ethics: OK I will give it another go - do you find the version of mplayer that comes with Hoary worked out of the box?
[02:38] <Panzerboy> Chongo: it should load only when you try to mount a fat32 partition
[02:38] <mr_salt> ethics: It crashes when i play a DVD
[02:38] <krolden> Is breezy useable or considered too unstable (/me is a gentoo user)
[02:38] <Panzerboy> Chongo: yeah, the mount point is there
[02:39] <ethics> sektor also i have vmware running on my server for exchange so i have a windows client if needbe
[02:39] <thoreauputic> krolden: /topic
[02:39] <Panzerboy> krolden: if you really want to use breezy, you should subscribe to the devel list
[02:39] <sektor> ethics, i have both a windows and a linux pc running here
[02:39] <mpmc> The Arts sound engine seems to make a cracking noise while plating mp3 files the gstreamer engine is perfect ;)
[02:39] <ethics> mr_salt, im debian atm migrating one desktop to hoary atm...trying a scary crossgrade hehe
[02:39] <Panzerboy> krolden: there are lots of breezy issues discussed
[02:39] <sektor> but it's a matter of principle :)
[02:39] <krolden> thoreauputic: ok, thx :)
[02:40] <ethics> mr_salt, your using xine atm?
[02:40] <ethics> sektor, si you could get iver it hehe
[02:40] <mpmc> Amarok.. Rocks :)
[02:40] <mr_salt> ethics: yeah
[02:40] <mpmc> What plays do you all use?
[02:40] <krolden> mpmc: until you try mpd
[02:40] <mpmc> mpd?
[02:40] <ethics> mpmc, it a bit heavy but nice when web tagging works 8)
[02:41] <krolden> mpmc: musicpd
[02:41] <sektor> ethics, i'm trying to learn how to work with linux, would be pointless if i started working on a windows pc everytime i have a problem :)
[02:41] <mpmc> ok
[02:41] <krolden> mpmc: http://www.musicpd.org/
[02:41] <idontknowdou> ok I am upgrading to breezy now
[02:41] <mdeboer> Anyone around familiar with the LiveCD instrinsics?
[02:41] <ethics> mr_salt, perhaps ogle?  i think thats another dvd one
[02:41] <thoreauputic> mpmc:  mpg321 /path/to/music/*   *grin*
[02:41] <ethics> mr_salt, vlc maybee...just to find out whats going on ie isolated to one or maybe a lib issue etc
[02:41] <mr_salt> ehics: so is xine not that good?
[02:42] <Panzerboy> ok, gotta do some work also today :)
[02:42] <Panzerboy> so see you all later :)
[02:42] <thoreauputic> mr_salt: I use xine and it works well
[02:42] <krolden> cya
[02:42] <sektor> c u
[02:42] <sektor> we feel ur pain panzerboy :P
[02:42] <mpmc> Musicpd.. is a console app.. no GUI.
[02:42] <mpmc> :'(
[02:42] <mpmc> noobie here ;)
[02:42] <mr_salt> thoreauputic: and yuo never had any trouble setting it up?
[02:42] <ethics> sektor, hehe  true but then as i say i dont use em much so if it shows me the content im happy
[02:42] <krolden> mpmc: it's a server with many front-ends
[02:43] <sektor> gotta reach for the skies ethics :P
[02:43] <thoreauputic> mr_salt: well, I installed w32codecs etc, and I use dmix not esd...
[02:43] <mpmc> ok
[02:43] <krolden> mpmc: I'm particulary fond of the ncmpc front-end (ncurses)
[02:43] <ethics> mr_salt, i use it but for instance some thing jump in on but not the other depending on codec etc....
[02:43] <ethics> mr_salt, xine mostly works great
[02:44] <ethics> mr_salt, i think mplayer is a bit more robust on crappy encodes but then it may jusst filter less hehe
[02:44] <mpmc> ok
[02:44] <ethics> sektor, sometime life at the top feels lonely hehe
[02:44] <sektor> lol ethics
[02:44] <sektor> deep ;)
[02:44] <mr_salt> thoreauputic: i shouldn't need codecs for playing DVDs should I?
[02:45] <ethics> sektor, in other news im trying to get midi working on linux hehe now thats something id use heheh  so its more about what i need hehe
[02:45] <thoreauputic> mr_salt: you might need libdvdcss2 for DVD
[02:45] <sektor> good luck with that ethics
[02:45] <ethics> sektor, im close just trying to figure out  how the hell jack works...
[02:45] <sektor> ethics, my experience with linux and sound are horrifying
[02:46] <sektor> my linux pc doesn't even have speakers attached :P
[02:46] <ethics> sektor, although it works in a virtual machine which impressed me hehe
[02:46] <aio> ethics - does jack use transcode?
[02:46] <ethics> sektor, took me a while to get alsa figured and dmix but i think i now know enough to assist others hehe
[02:47] <sektor> ethics, "sudo apt-get install acroread" should do the trick, right?
[02:47] <ethics> sektor ill find out soon enough hehe
[02:47] <mr_salt> thoreauputic: I'n pretty sure I have that one
[02:47] <ed1t> /dev/sda6                       ext3    defaults        0       0
[02:47] <ed1t> is this right line to add in fstab?
[02:47] <sektor> ethics, you probably will :), the problem with my previous linux pc was the fact that it had an onboard sound card
[02:47] <mr_salt> thoreauputic: damn why do I get all the unsolvable stuff!?
[02:47] <ethics> aio, nah jack is some sort of sound server which can handle midi inputs etc...im getting cues to it all atm
[02:47] <hn> Hi - there - Im looking for a PCMCIA card for my notebook which should be supported by the current Ubuntu as it is.
[02:48] <ethics> sektor, via yeah...they are a headache
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ethics: timidity is fairly easy to set up if you just want to play midis - although it can also be used with rosegarden etc as a "server"
[02:48] <mr_salt> hn: wireless?
[02:48] <idontknowdou> good got this distro upgrade is taking forever
[02:48] <idontknowdou> LOL
[02:48] <cafuego> Muahaha!
[02:48] <hn> yes WLAN - sorry
[02:48] <aio> ethics darn...i'm trying to get a dvd ripper installed and working.....
[02:48] <ethics> sektor, nah for the adobe one they have an installer thing on their website
[02:48] <sektor> ethics, k tnx, i'll go look there
[02:49] <aio> dvdrip requires transcode which requires something else which conflicts with other crap i got installed....
[02:49] <fdr> hello... what is the ubuntu way to convert a text file from unix line terminators to msdos terminators? Debian had the very nice unix2dos, if I remember correctly... THANK YOU! :-)
[02:49] <sektor> ethics, i really like synaptic and apt though, makes linux manageble for noobs like me
[02:49] <mr_salt> hn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:49] <cafuego> fdr: ubuntu has that too too.
[02:49] <cafuego> !find unix2dos
[02:49] <ethics> thoreauputic, yeah i have rosegarden installed in ettch atm where im fiddling but its just starting atm hehe im reading a bit first
[02:49] <sektor> ethics, i know how to install stuff, just never know where to install to
[02:50] <ethics> sektor,  i agree   apt is the best
[02:50] <cafuego> fdr: apt-get install sysutils
[02:50] <aio> fdr check out sysutils
[02:50] <ethics> sektor hehe apt-cache and the google some names for info etc
[02:51] <fdr> cafuego, aio : ok thanks, i'll install that :-)
[02:51] <ethics> or hit a decent channel and ask for shortlists...most will give a couple etc
[02:51] <idontknowdou> will breezy badger effect my kubuntu?
[02:51] <cafuego> idontknowdou: Yes. Don't use it.
[02:51] <sektor> man, women are a drag, wanted to do some stuff on my computer but i somehow ended up with meeting this girl in half an hour
[02:51] <aio> idontknowdou the topic page says don't use it....darnit
[02:51] <sektor> grmbl
[02:52] <cafuego> idontknowdou: If you need to ask, Breezy is not for you. it *will* break.
[02:52] <sektor> ethics, seems like i gotta go :) tnx for the help
[02:52] <aio> sektor yeah - you've got a bad life
[02:52] <ed1t> anybody know a working repository mirror?
[02:52] <sektor> aio she's cute though, makes up for something :p
[02:52] <ethics> sektor, np matey
[02:52] <ed1t> i tried us.archive.ubuntu.com and it
[02:52] <aio> sektor :-)
[02:52] <sektor> greetz y'all
[02:53] <nalioth_zZz> ed1t: take the us. out of your sources.list
[02:53] <ed1t> nalioth_zZz, archive.ubuntu.com doesnt work either
[02:54] <ed1t> weird...it worked now
[02:54] <ethics> ed1t, im downloading fro archive atm...it works...you suck
[02:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> UFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist.
[02:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[02:54] <ethics> 8)
[02:54] <cafuego> ed1t: You probably got the other one; archive.ubuntu.com is two machines
[02:56] <mr_salt> Do you need codecs for playing VCDs ?
[02:56] <ethics> mr_salt, yeah some are divx/xvids or soething now
[02:57] <cafuego> ed1t: a VCD is MPEG1 by specification.
[02:57] <mr_salt> ethics: this is an OLD VCD though - dunno why it wont play
[02:57] <ethics> mr_salt, some are stil mpg tho ...depends on how trickd oout the pirate was
[02:57] <cafuego> ethics even
[02:57] <ed1t> huh
[02:58] <[koji] > ethics: you assume that all vcd's are made by pirates :P
[02:58] <ethics> mr_salt, well the old early ninetys porn were mpeg 1 and indeo i think.
[02:58] <cafuego> if it's DivX it's not a VCD.
[02:58] <ethics> no that they are porn or pirates hehe
[02:58] <cafuego> if it's an SVCD, it's MPEG2 (like a DVD)
[02:59] <ethics> cafuego, yeah but they do some pretty fancy svcds etc with it i belive or some version of it
[02:59] <martigan> must be away to enable remote desktop without using the gui.. still searching ;)
[02:59] <ethics> cafuego, may be special autoruns etc tho never looked much
[02:59] <cafuego> martigan: Just run vncserver
[03:00] <martigan> cafuego,  im logging in trough telnet
[03:00] <nalioth_zZz> martigan: ewww don't do that
[03:00] <martigan> hehe
[03:00] <nalioth_zZz> martigan: use ssh
[03:00] <cafuego> martigan: Let's start from the beginning; what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:00] <ed1t> does anybody know if i can use ubuntu as a host system to build linux from scratch?
[03:00] <nalioth_zZz> ed1t: you surely may
[03:01] <ed1t> cool
[03:01] <martigan> remote desktop connection, i did get it working nicely but i disabled the option into gnome on remote ;)
[03:01] <thoreauputic> ed1t: as far as I know, you can use any linux distro - install build-essential for compilers etc
[03:01] <martigan> and dont see awya to enable it trough telnet somehow (only way i can connect to the box now )
[03:01] <cafuego> !10 million dollar question
[03:01] <ubotu> I don't know, cafuego
[03:02] <cafuego> martigan: You want to tunnel X?
[03:02] <ed1t> thoreauputic, i got gcc installed? do i need anything else?
[03:02] <martigan> yeah i think so ;)
[03:02] <cafuego> martigan: Then ssh is the way to go. telnet can't do it.
[03:02] <nalioth> ed1t: install "build-essential"
[03:02] <thoreauputic> ed1t: yes - install build-essential for other stuff like make
[03:02] <ed1t> k
[03:02] <martigan> k let me try, ill get back here cafuego
[03:03] <mr_salt> Does anyone know how I can eject my CD drives by just pressing phyically ejecting them rather than right clicking?
[03:03] <ed1t> done....thx guys
[03:03] <cafuego> martigan: Install ssh; enable X11Forwarding, restart ssh server, ssh -C -X remotebox; mozilla
[03:03] <cafuego> !10 million dollar question
[03:03] <ubotu> The 10 million dollar question is: But why would you bother?
[03:03] <martigan> thx ill look into it!
[03:03] <nalioth> martigan: there are numerous howtos via google on ssh tunneling
[03:03] <mpmc> where can I get themes for ubuntu?
[03:03] <cafuego> martigan: it's pretty straightforward.
[03:04] <thoreauputic> mpmc: start with ' sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras ` , and check out gnome-look.org
[03:04] <nalioth> mpmc: www.deviantart.com, www.gnome-look.org, others
[03:04] <ben_underscore> mr salt - have you tried "eject /cdrom"
[03:05] <mpmc> for KDE
[03:05] <mr_salt> yes that works - but i mean by just pressing the button on the front - i am so used to it!
[03:05] <mpmc> I want Themes for KDE
[03:05] <mpmc> I'm not keen on gnome
[03:05] <cafuego> mpmc: Give #kubuntu a try
[03:05] <mpmc> ok
[03:06] <nalioth> mpmc: kde-look.org, www.devianatart.com
[03:06] <mr_salt> What's the relation between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[03:06] <nalioth> mr_salt: kde and gnome
[03:06] <cafuego> mr_salt: Different colour, basically.
[03:06] <thoreauputic> mr_salt: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[03:06] <cafuego> One is brown, the other blue.
[03:06] <mr_salt> thanks!
[03:06] <pazu> how do i intall ubuntu if i have no cd-rom? is it possible to install through xp itself?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> cafuego: heresy! *grin*
[03:06] <alpha> anyone here blessed with a ati 320m?
[03:06] <[koji] > mr_salt: same cremen filling on the inside
[03:07] <cafuego> alpha: Let me check...
[03:07] <mr_salt> [koji] : delicious!
[03:07] <[koji] > hehe
[03:07] <alpha> opengl works but it blinks like crazy
[03:07] <thoreauputic> pazu: sure, Bill Gates supplies a linux installer by default because he loves us ;)
[03:08] <cafuego> 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
[03:08] <cafuego> we'll take that as a "yes"
[03:08] <alpha> same card
[03:08] <alpha> you get 3d acc working well?
[03:08] <cafuego> alpha: Running fine here; around 1000 fps in glxgears
[03:08] <alpha> i had it working in gentoo but i just switched
[03:09] <cafuego> This is a bog-standard Hoary setup
[03:09] <alpha> and i got around 1000 fps in gentoo
[03:09] <pazu> thoreauputic, what do u mean? how to do it?
[03:09] <ethics> pazu you can do a floppy install
[03:09] <thoreauputic> pazu: erm... It was a little joke
[03:09] <nikkia> 1000fps is a touch low for glxgears to be honest
[03:09] <mr_salt> My sound is much quieter in ubuntu that it was in windows yet my ATI Rage 128 card seems to have been detected perfectly
[03:10] <nikkia> i get 6900fps
[03:10] <alpha> what card?
[03:10] <nikkia> 6600GT
[03:10] <ethics> pazu but i never have but it is ppossible
[03:10] <alpha> no wonder
[03:10] <Nermal> nikkia, can you complete all the levels ?
[03:10] <nikkia> alpha, 1000 is still low tho
[03:10] <cafuego> nikkia: Um, this is a laptop integrated chipset, mate.
[03:10] <nikkia> alpha, i used to get ~600fps on my Rage128
[03:10] <pazu> i think i shoulg have cd-rom
[03:10] <pazu> should
[03:10] <alpha> nikkia, its a hobbled 7500 with shared ram
[03:11] <ethics> mr_salt there are gain settings etc you could set...see advances sound on linx or somehing in goole..i fond a page once..
[03:11] <cafuego> The 5700 TDH gets far more
[03:11] <mr_salt> Sorry - Rage is obviously my video card!
[03:11] <alpha> and i can't even use the binary ati drivers
[03:11] <mr_salt> ethics: thanks again!
[03:11] <cafuego> alpha: No, the open ones ought to work just fine (as in: they do here)
[03:11] <cafuego> alpha: Anything odd like warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[03:11] <alpha> cafuero, yeah they work but not well
[03:12] <ethics> mr_salt, np
[03:12] <martigan> cafuego,  thx man problems are solved :)
[03:12] <cafuego> alpha: I could plonk my xorg.conf online for you if you thought it might help...
[03:12] <cafuego> martigan: enjoy :-)
[03:13] <alpha> that would be nice
[03:13] <martigan> :D
[03:13] <cafuego> alpha: ok, gimme a sec
[03:13] <alpha> cafuego, what kernal do you use
[03:14] <cafuego> alpha: self-cimpiled 2.6.13-rc2
[03:14] <cafuego> alpha: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/xorg.conf
[03:14] <alpha> cafuego, im using the stock amd k7 one
[03:15] <idontknowdou> IS IT possible to abort a dist-upgrade that is in progress?
[03:15] <alpha> i should mess with it
[03:15] <idontknowdou> if it is still donwloading?
[03:15] <mr_salt> anyone know how I get like task bar items to groupos together like in XP?
[03:15] <cafuego> ^issues
[03:15] <luis_> hi...anyboy can tell me how can i install nvu plz?
[03:15] <alpha> cafuego, seems to scale fine with mine
[03:15] <cafuego> idontknowdou: You can usually ctrl-c them at any time.
[03:16] <cafuego> luis_: apt-get install nvu
[03:16] <ethics> idontknowdou, ctrl c
[03:16] <cafuego> alpha: proll a different laptop
[03:16] <idontknowdou> sweet
[03:16] <idontknowdou> its done
[03:16] <luis_> thnx
[03:16] <cafuego> alpha: mine wants acpi hardcoded, not as modules. The mods won't load (odd, but true)
[03:16] <alpha> cafuego, i have a compaq 2170
[03:16] <cafuego> alpha: nx9005 here
[03:16] <alpha> with a 2200
[03:16] <cafuego> 2000+ for me
[03:16] <alpha> same laptops
[03:17] <aio> mr_salt right click on your window list on your toolbar (assume it's your bottom) and select your preference of "Window Grouping"
[03:17] <cafuego> alpha: Apparenty it depends on the cpu (even differs from batch to batch)
[03:17] <alpha> cafuego, go get the news bios rom for it, it fixes alot of issues with the video and scaling
[03:18] <alpha> cafuego, with the newest bios i can allocate 128mb of ram and it sites happy at 533mhz when its not doing anything
[03:18] <cafuego> alpha: yes, mine does that (but only with hardcoded acpi)
[03:18] <mr_salt> aio: I can't believe I never saw that before! Thanks :)
[03:18] <cafuego> alpha: Scales very happily
[03:18] <ben_underscore> aio: what do you do?
[03:18] <aio> ben_underscore what do you mean?
[03:19] <alpha> cafuego,  have you upgraded the bios?
[03:19] <alpha> then tried?
[03:19] <Sherei> Hello everyone
[03:19] <mr_salt> I also can't believe I never came on this group before! I'm on my 5th install of ubuntu is 2 weeks!
[03:19] <cafuego> alpha: I'm pretty sure I have the lasy bios anyway; there hasn't been a fresh one for over a year.
[03:19] <cafuego> s/lasy/last/
[03:19] <ben_underscore> aio: to get the grouping?
[03:19] <alpha> mines about 6months old
[03:19] <cafuego> Sherei: good evening
[03:19] <mr_salt> ben_underscore: from aio: right click on your window list on your toolbar (assume it's your bottom) and select your preference of "Window Grouping"
[03:20] <alpha> cafuego, my first motherboard died and they put one ment for your model in mine giving me a firewire port
[03:20] <Sherei> is there a protocal for asking a question?  or do we just jump right in?
[03:20] <aio> ben_underscore then you select either "Never group windows"...etc....
[03:20] <aio> Sherei just jump in
[03:20] <tdela> How do i install PHP5 with apt even if its not in the apt-cache search results, do i need to add a repository in my sources.list for it?
[03:20] <ben_underscore> ah der. tx
[03:20] <aio> Sherei but make sure your request is TCP compliant
[03:20] <tdela> if so, where can i find the repo for this
[03:21] <cafuego> alpha: ahaa :-)
[03:21] <Sherei> I have a voodoo 3 video card that I can not get out of 640X480...  I just installed version 5.04 and am not much of a linux user (yet)
[03:22] <alpha> cafuego, i know in windowsxp before i changed the bios it didn't like changing freqs at all now it'll do so and run much cooler, internal diode shows 42*c
[03:22] <cafuego> alpha: Yeah, I'm on 1.60
[03:22] <Nameeater> I have installed a driver for my printer which came as a debian package, but I do not have lpr installed as it needs, so I apt-get install lpr and it complains about the printer driver, so I dpkg -r driver but it won't install, how can I go about uninstalling it?
[03:22] <mosty> i got a message in gnome saying (paraphrasing) "X's keymap differs from gnome's, which do you want to use?" - can anyone tell me how i can change this setting? i can't find it anywhere
[03:22] <mr_salt> How can i find out the chipset of my printer - Olivetti have been no help at all - I know it is HP
[03:23] <alpha> cafuego, did yours come with a docking port?
[03:24] <mosty> sherei, which driver are you using?
[03:24] <cafuego> alpha: yeah, on the bottom, near the rear.
[03:24] <nalioth> Sherei: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:24] <Sherei> Not sure...  How can I tell?
[03:24] <mosty> tdela, google?
[03:24] <alpha> cafuego, mine didn't have the hole but it the connector was on the motherboard so i took my dremel to it
[03:24] <tdela> got it.
[03:25] <alpha> $60 later on ebay and i had a docking station
[03:25] <Sherei> Thanx Nalioth looking at that now
[03:25] <cafuego> alpha: <heh>
[03:26] <cafuego> I'll use the amd64 when I'm at my desk
[03:26] <Nameeater> anyone got any ideas on my problem? :|
[03:26] <alpha> cafuego, i wanted it so i didn't have to put so much wear on the power connector and it makes it run cooler as its off the ground a little
[03:27] <cafuego> alpha: i's winter, a warm lap is nice ;-)
[03:27] <kevin__> hi everybody
[03:27] <ethics> nameater there are force options you could try ...not sure which tho you would try
[03:27] <alpha> cafuego, yeah but 60* is testical melting
[03:27] <cafuego> alpha: Oh, it's not that hot
[03:27] <kevin__> i have just installed ubuntu and have some questions can somebody help me plz?
[03:28] <cafuego> kevin__: just ask away
[03:28] <kevin__> i would like to install amsn, i have downloaded the tar.gz file and uncompressed it
[03:28] <cyphase> kevin__, use synaptic
[03:28] <mosty> kevin__, sure you don't want to use gaim instead?
[03:29] <kevin__> i can open amsn, but how do you install the program?
[03:29] <cafuego> kevin__: 'apt-get nstall amsn' should do, too.
[03:29] <tdela> install
[03:29] <Chillou1> hi i have installed "powertweak" via synaptic. but i dont know i can access it. can anyone help me with that?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> kevin__: don't do that - enable universe and install amsn
[03:29] <kevin__> i have tried the apt-get install but it doesn't work
[03:29] <cafuego> alpha: Actually, which lm-sensors chip does the box have?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> kevin__: you need to enable the universe repo
[03:30] <thoreauputic> !repos
[03:30] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:30] <thoreauputic> kevin__: ^^^
[03:30] <bjourne> how do you become root in ubuntu?
[03:30] <cafuego> kevin__: "Doesn't work" is not an error message we can do much with.
[03:30] <Nameeater> ok how about this, dpkg -i <file> and it didn't install properly, I can't remove it with dkpg -r but I have removed it by hand, how can I get apt/dpkg to stop thinking it exsists?
[03:30] <nalioth> !sudo
[03:30] <cafuego> bjourne: 'sudo -s'
[03:30] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:30] <nalioth> bjourne: there is no 'root'
[03:30] <bjourne> when i installed ubuntu, i didn't get a chance to set a root password
[03:31] <ethics> bjourne, you dont you sudu alot
[03:31] <thoreauputic> nalioth: yes there is - just no password for root
[03:31] <alpha> cafuego, im not sure it just seems to work
[03:31] <cafuego> bjourne: That's correct. Check the wiki url, it explains it all.
[03:31] <mr_salt> Anyone know how you can find out the chipset of your hardware if it is not obvious?
[03:31] <cafuego> alpha: Can you check via 'lsmod' to see which one's loaded?
[03:31] <alpha> cafuego, i used some generic centrino monitor and it worked
[03:31] <bjourne> ok sudo -s vi says /usr/bin/vi cannot execute binary file
[03:32] <ethics> bjourne, the first user gets sudu rights from there you can do anything
[03:32] <thoreauputic> bjourne: just sudo vi
[03:32] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i'm going along with the party line of "use sudo for all your power needs"
[03:32] <cafuego> bjourne: 'sudo vi'
[03:32] <cafuego> bjourne: sudo -s just executes a shell
[03:32] <alpha> cafuego, our xorg.conf is nearly identical
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"AGPMode" "4"
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"EnablePageFlip" "True"
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"AGPFastWrite" "TRue"
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"CursorShadow"           "True"
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"CursorShadowAlpha"      "70"
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"CursorShadowXOffset"    "2"
[03:32] <nalioth> bjourne: read the rootsudo link above
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"CursorShadowYOffset"    "2"
[03:32] <ethics> mr_salt lspci maybe
[03:32] <alpha> 	Option	"DPMS"
[03:32] <alpha> cafuego, thats the only difference
[03:32] <thoreauputic> nalioth: sure - my point was merely that root "does" exist, but I agree with the party line ;)
[03:33] <cafuego> Ooh, cursor shadow!!
[03:33] <Bubbling_Zombie> dont do that alpha :< use the pastebin.
[03:33] <Hieronymus> !paste
[03:33] <ubotu> paste is, like, ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[03:33] <alpha> cafuego,  sorry
[03:33] <bigfoot1> Hi everyone, you know when you use google search, the url that follows is easy to decipher. For instance, if you search for ubuntu is cool, you get http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+is+cool. What do you call this kind of url? ANd what's the term that refers to the opposite?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> alpha: please read the topic re: pasting
[03:33] <Chillou1> hi i have installed "powertweak" via synaptic. but i dont know i can access it. can anyone help me with that?
[03:33] <ethics> the captial R made all the difference hehe
[03:33] <mosty> bigbootay, it's called a "url"
[03:34] <Hieronymus> bigfoot1: probably something with dynamic in it
[03:34] <mosty> bigbootay, ie there is no special name
[03:34] <bigfoot1> mosty, no, there's a more technical sounding term for it, but i forgot.
[03:34] <Hieronymus> the opposite of dynamic is static
[03:35] <ethics> Chillou1, dpkg -L package may offer some lcations it put stuff etc..
[03:35] <nalioth> Chillou1: have you been to the 'powertweak' website for faq or readmes?
[03:35] <bigfoot1> Hieronymus, right. but what do you call a url that's somethnig like: http://tproxy.guardster.com/proxy.php/33300002432903htneo0ce282929b0d2d? This would be the guardster url for when I use this website to view webpages via proxy.
[03:36] <bigfoot1> Hieronymus, what i'm trying to get at is this: the guardster.com url isn't just a simple: www.guardster.com/view?q=www.news.com
[03:36] <Hieronymus> bigfoot1: a lame url
[03:37] <kevin__> you can set the password by using the command passwd root (in the terminal)
[03:37] <bigfoot1> seriously now, Hieronymus .
[03:37] <Hieronymus> bigfoot1: no idea
[03:37] <bigfoot1> does anybody know?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> kevin__: you can, but it's utterly pointless since sudo -s or sudo -i do the same thing
[03:38] <mosty> bigfoot1, they both look like regular url's to me
[03:38] <alpha> then you have to type sudo all the time :)
[03:38] <Chillou1> nalioth: well i found a page telling me how to install it. since i installed via synaptic that was no prob. it says there is a GUI for it. but i dont know where and how to start it in gnome (i am absolute noob -sry)
[03:38] <alpha> anyone get vmware going in ubunto ?
[03:38] <thoreauputic> alpha: if you have to type sudo all the time, you are doing too much admin ;)
[03:38] <nalioth> Chillou1: open a terminal and type "powertweak" and see what happens
[03:38] <bigfoot1> mosty, but the google one is decipherable. It's not just numbers and letters. But the guardster one is just a string of numbers and letters. Do you see what I mean?
[03:39] <alpha> thoreauputic, meh just setting up a new system
[03:39] <thoreauputic> alpha: :)
[03:39] <alpha> thoreauputic, plus i like fiddling
[03:39] <thoreauputic> alpha: ah, that's another issue ;)
[03:39] <Chillou1> nalioth: root@defiant-wingman:/home/chillout # powertweak / bash: powertweak: command not found
[03:39] <maggotbrain> bigfoot1: i believe it is called a URI, or Unversal Resource Indicator. see:
[03:40] <alpha> brb can;t stand this x-chat
[03:40] <bigfoot1> maggotbrain, i know of URI
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: dpkg -L powertweak | grep bin
[03:40] <maggotbrain> ok. then you got me..
[03:40] <bigfoot1> maggotbrain, I'm asking for the more specific terminology. Terms that distinguish the two.
[03:40] <bigfoot1> maggotbrain, you have quite a nickname.
[03:40] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[03:41] <mosty> bigfoot1, i don't think there is an official term that differentiates between your two cases
[03:41] <Chillou1> thoreauputic: did that... no output
[03:41] <carine__> Hello
[03:41] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: is there a man page for powertweak ?
[03:41] <nalioth> Chillou1: what is the website?
[03:41] <maggotbrain> well a url is basically a class of uri google  'define:uri' might help
[03:42] <bigfoot1> maggotbrain, i know that.
[03:42] <Chillou1> there is one for powertweakd
[03:42] <bigfoot1> i know url and URI.
[03:42] <mosty> bigfoot1, perhaps "human readable" ?
[03:43] <Nameeater> how can I make ubuntu accept an installed printer?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: apparently that's a metapackage - have you tried powertweak-gtk ?
[03:43] <Chillou1> but i am lost in those command things... synaptic installed a thing powetweak-gtk which is supposed to be a GUi... but i can find that
[03:43] <bigfoot1> mosty, i guess that would do. I ask because I don't know how to make Smart URLs in Galeon for those sites that make non-human-readable urls.
[03:43] <kevin__> thx for helping me
[03:43] <mosty> nameeater: depends what you mean by "accept" and "installed"
[03:43] <bigfoot1> any galeon users with a tip?
[03:43] <mosty> bigfoot1, use that tinyurl website?
[03:43] <alpha> much better kirc is way better then xchat
[03:44] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: what does dpkg -L powertweak-gtk say?
[03:44] <Nameeater> I've installed the driver from the manufacturers website, but its now showing in system/admin/printers, tho I just realised i havn't rebooted since installing it
[03:44] <bigfoot1> mosty, no, i'm not looking to making a url shorter.
[03:44] <Nameeater> now/not*
[03:44] <mosty> bigfoot1, this is a job for the web developer, not the web browser, methinks
[03:44] <Chillou1> thoreauputic: what do u mean with tried? i typed powertweak-gtk in the shell. it says command not found
[03:45] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: try typing  dpkg -L powertweak-gtk   and see what it spits out - look for "bin" files
[03:45] <bigfoot1> mosty, maybe. but i beg to differ: Firefox offers this function. Just right click on an empty search box in a website and Voila. You have a smart search. But it's a bit harder with Galeon. Hope you see what i mean.
[03:45] <Chillou1> thoreauputic: dpkg -L powertweak-gtk gives me a list of folders
[03:45] <Chillou1> there is /usr/bin &  /usr/bin/gpowertweak
[03:45] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: right - is there something in /usr/bin ? that would be an executable
[03:46] <thoreauputic> try typing gpowertweak
[03:46] <Chillou1> a cool
[03:46] <alpha> anyone know a fix so kde's menus aren't all screwy because of gnome?
[03:46] <Chillou1> it opens
[03:46] <Chillou1> thoreauputic: ty
[03:46] <mosty> bigfoot1, i don't understand the feature you're describing...
[03:46] <thoreauputic> Chillou1: no worries :)
[03:47] <Riddell> alpha: what's screwey with them?
[03:47] <alpha> Riddell: the menu is all wrong for kde
[03:48] <cafuego> alpha: short of removing KDE? ;-)
[03:48] <alpha> i like kde
[03:48] <mosty> alpha, "wrong" ?
[03:48] <alpha> yeah its all gnome ised
[03:49] <mosty> can you be a bit more descriptive?
[03:49] <alpha> i had the same issue with gentoo but there was a fix for it
[03:49] <thoreauputic> alpha: erm, you aren't making a lot of sense
[03:49] <alpha> like Editors is missing ect...
[03:49] <alpha> doesn't show all the kde apps that normaly show
[03:49] <mosty> alpha, are those editors installed?
[03:49] <alpha> yes
[03:49] <Nameeater> does ubuntu not come with g++ by default?
[03:50] <Riddell> alpha: I moved editors into utilities
[03:50] <Riddell> alpha: which apps don't show?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Nameeater: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:50] <mosty> nameeater: apt-get install g++
[03:50] <alpha> kwrite ect..
[03:50] <Nameeater> thanks :)
[03:50] <thoreauputic> mosty: no, see above
[03:50] <Riddell> alpha: I set kwrite to hidden in preference to kate
[03:50] <thoreauputic> mosty: apt-cache show build-essential
[03:50] <alpha> its nothing major just odd
[03:51] <mosty> you don't need all of build-essential just for g++
[03:51] <alpha> im jsut too used to stock kde i think
[03:51] <kevin__> witch of the following os would you recommend? debian, freebsd or gentoo?
[03:51] <mosty> kevin__, i recommend them all
[03:51] <thoreauputic> mosty: if you want it to work you do ;)
[03:51] <alpha> kevin__:  depends on the use really
[03:51] <kevin__> but witch one would you use for a server?
[03:51] <kevin__> for home use
[03:51] <mosty> thoreauputic, if g++ requires anything, apt-get install g++ should install those
[03:52] <alpha> kevin__: freebsd for server
[03:52] <mosty> kevin__, they're all equally capable
[03:52] <alpha> debain for home
[03:52] <lelezzz> hi
[03:52] <alpha> gentoo for home
[03:52] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[03:52] <strawboat> hi there
[03:52] <thoreauputic> mosty: *cough* try installing gcc by itself and watch what happens when you try to compile something
[03:52] <kevin__> the stability is also the same?
[03:52] <ethics> looks like this debian crossover may get hairy hehe
[03:52] <bigfoot1> mosty, i don't know what Firefox calls it, but do this and you'll understand: in firefox address bar, enter "google" then a search term.
[03:53] <strawboat> i don't trust it
[03:53] <strawboat> like a toolbar
[03:54] <mosty> bigfoot1, that sends me to a random website (based on a dns lookup of whatever crap i typed)
[03:54] <bigfoot1> mosty, i remembered: in Fx, it's called "Quick Search"
[03:54] <strawboat> the toolbar is evil
[03:54] <selinium> hi all, I have just loaded a fresh install of ubuntu onto my machine, I used to use ubuntuguide.org to continue the set up but I have seen some bad reports from users here. Where else is there a similar webpage I can use that you can recommend?
[03:55] <tvo> selinium: http://wiki.ubuntu.com is recommended
[03:55] <strawboat> selinium, try social bookmarks
[03:56] <mosty> bigfoot1, that's not a standard firefox feature, must be a plugin
[03:56] <bigfoot1> mosty, check out your bookmars folders for a folder called "quick search". then check out one bookmark's popretries.
[03:56] <ex-parrot> I'm genuinley impressed, Wine runs Discworld Noir better than Windows XP
[03:56] <bigfoot1> mosty, no. not a plugin. it's standard.
[03:56] <strawboat> plugin (heheheheh)
[03:56] <ex-parrot> last time I checked out Wine it barely ran anything.... and now look at it :)
[03:56] <ex-parrot> that is all :P
[03:56] <mosty> bigfoot1, i have no "quick search" folder in my bookmarks
[03:57] <bigfoot1> mosty, ok. let's just forget it.
[03:57] <strawboat> I perfer backdoor/virus/adware/spyware plugins
[03:58] <kevin__> does anyone know a good howto on router/firewalls? to write iptables yourself?
[03:58] <strawboat> kevin__, nano
[03:58] <kevin__> is the help function that good? :p
[03:59] <mosty> kevin__, the nat howto at netfilter.org has a good 5 line firewall script
[03:59] <strawboat> kevin__, you don't need something like that totally
[04:00] <selinium> kevin__ i use firestarter to administrate my ip tables.
[04:00] <strawboat> kevin__, aye... see you one month later ...
[04:01] <mpmc> Does anyone know of a good ftp server. that uses mysql for auth and is easy to install.
[04:01] <utnubu> so now that I have the Live CD going, does the Install CD come with anything else besides what's on live?
[04:02] <gm78> kevin__, guarddog is good for firewalls, gives u more control than firestarter does
[04:02] <Yvi> hi :)
[04:02] <gm78> kevin__, it is a kde app tho, so it sticks out in gnome
[04:02] <kevin__> but what if you only use the non graphical os?
[04:02] <gm78> kevin__, oh, lol, nvm then.....i dont know anything about iptables other than guarddog/firestarter
[04:02] <thoreauputic> utnubu: pretty much the same - of course synaptic gives you access to about 16 000 other packages
[04:02] <mpmc> I'll take that as a no :P
[04:03] <utnubu> thoreauputic, thank you, but that would be no help if I installed it on the machine that's not on the net
[04:03] <cronosh2o> Hello everybody, someone speak spanish?
[04:03] <cronosh2o> HOlaaaaa
[04:03] <thoreauputic> utnubu: true enough
[04:03] <selinium> Also on my fresh install the 'find tool' on firefox floats on the page, not at the bottom as on my old system? any way of configuring it to the bottom again?
[04:04] <gm78> selinium, it does that when u ctrl+f???
[04:04] <thoreauputic> cronosh2o:  /join #ubuntu-es
[04:04] <cronosh2o> ok
[04:05] <utnubu> my other question...just out of curiosity...what's up with not putting emacs and gcc on a Linux distro? And what's with all the gdb programmer's support with *no* compiler???
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: hola, que tal
[04:05] <cronosh2o> que has hecho?
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> estoy estudiando espanl... 8)
[04:05] <gm78> utnubu, they want to keep it light for newbies, they are there on the system, just not installed (lie the debs are already on the harddrive)
[04:05] <gm78> *like
[04:05] <mosty> utnubu, it's trivial to install them
[04:06] <cronosh2o> que bien, pues hasta ahora te doy un 10
[04:06] <gm78> utnubu, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <selinium> gm78 yep, it creates a small floating window.
[04:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: aunque no hablo muy bin...
[04:06] <thoreauputic> utnubu: you can install build-essential without a net connection IIRC
[04:06] <utnubu> ah, I see! And light for newbies as in just Gnome for window manager
[04:06] <gm78> selinium, thats odd, ive never seen that.....did u happen to carry an old config over from another install?
[04:06] <cronosh2o> jajaja, pero vas muy bien. te felicito.
[04:06] <gm78> utnubu, yep....granny doesnt normally use a compiler ;)
[04:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: soy brasilen...es fcil para nosotros... 8)
[04:07] <gm78> utnubu, hell, granny can barely handle a spreadsheet
[04:07] <thoreauputic> utnubu: newbies who want KDE have kubuntu install CD instead ;)
[04:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: ?tiene alguna duda?
[04:08] <selinium> gm78 No, this is a fresh install. I am wondering if I have accidently used an old install disc? I though I had destroyed them all ! :) How do I check which version I am using?
[04:08] <cronosh2o> Por su puesto
[04:08] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-es please
[04:08] <Yvi> hi, does anyone know, how I can disable sit0?
[04:08] <kbrooks> heh
[04:08] <gm78> selinium, help, about firefox
[04:08] <kbrooks> cronosh2o, #ubuntu-es
[04:08] <utnubu> ah, see, I'll just keep this around to test anything I develop, make sure it runs on debs. I'm kind of the anti-granny, you can keep everything and give me gcc, emacs, binutils, TWM, and a few folders, and that's my Linux system!
[04:08] <gm78> selinium, or were u talking about which version of ubuntu?
[04:08] <cronosh2o> el portugues es una lengua que a los hispanoparlantes tambien nos es un poco mas sencillo hablar.
[04:08] <mosty> utnubu, feel free to whine when you can't install them with a single command
[04:08] <kbrooks> cronosh2o, #ubuntu-es
[04:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[04:09] <kbrooks> i do have a question
[04:09] <selinium> gm78: Ubuntu, I think this must be a version of breezy... Ar*e
[04:09] <Yvi> hmm, noone know about sit0?
[04:09] <cronosh2o> Si mira mi duda es la siguiente, Tengo una board Intel y no tengo sonido en Ubuntu. la board es una D915Gav
[04:09] <gm78> selinium, which version of firefox is included?
[04:09] <kbrooks> selinium, No swearing.
[04:09] <cronosh2o> tanks kbrooks
[04:09] <selinium> kbrooks: Sorry
[04:10] <thoreauputic> cronosh2o: please, take non-english chat elsewhere - you have been asked several times
[04:10] <gm78> kbrooks, that was a swear?
[04:10] <selinium> gm78
[04:10] <gm78> selinium
[04:10] <utnubu> well, thanks, all, and I'll keep the disk around...
[04:10] <kbrooks> the question: How can I remove all packages depending on kubuntu-desktop?
[04:10] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: si...yo voy mirar aqui con un conocido...
[04:10] <selinium> gm78: not breezy, warty.    firefox 0.9.3
[04:10] <cronosh2o> gracias
[04:11] <kbrooks> i have: apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '{print $2}'
[04:11] <kbrooks> gm78, yes
[04:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o: ?no hace instalado ubuntu?
[04:11] <kbrooks> Aragorn_Guardian, #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <mosty> is there a source like marillat for hoary?
[04:12] <cronosh2o> Acaso hay discriminacion aqu por los hispanos?
[04:12] <kbrooks> cronosh2o and Aragorn_Guardian: join #ubuntu-es
[04:12] <cronosh2o> parace que si
[04:12] <kbrooks> mosty, Perhaps.
[04:12] <gm78> selinium, ah, makes sense ur using an out of date ubuntu......u dont need to upgrade if u dont want, u can just download firefox 1.0.4 from mozilla.org
[04:12] <selinium> cronosh2o /j ubuntu-es
[04:13] <kbrooks> gm78, warty isnt 'out of date'
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Aragorn_Guardian: cronosh2o this is an english channel and thus you are just being inconsiderate and raising the noise level for others - please stop
[04:13] <gm78> kbrooks, lol, fine then, not the latest and greatest
[04:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> cronosh2o, kbrooks : right...the things must be said here in english, for alll understand... right...
[04:13] <kbrooks> gm78, you know. warty's firefox is backported from 1.0.4
[04:13] <mosty> kbrooks, marillat's debs are too new for hoary
[04:13] <gm78> kbrooks, security updates are, yes, features, no
[04:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> sorry
[04:14] <cronosh2o> (in English is not noise?) ok
[04:14] <gm78> kbrooks, such as the one he was just asking me about
[04:14] <selinium> gm78: I think i will download the latest image and start again. I want this computer to start from a clean build.
[04:14] <kbrooks> Aragorn_Guardian, I ask you to leave.
[04:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am in -es ... sorry...
[04:16] <kbrooks> uh.
[04:17] <kbrooks> apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '{print $2}' | sudo xargs apt-get remove
[04:17] <kbrooks> thats the command, but apt-get aborts
[04:17] <kbrooks> how come?
[04:18] <Kyral> what are you trying to do?
[04:18] <tjs> anyone know anything about ubuntu + global file system?
[04:18] <palli> What is a global filesystem ?
[04:19] <kbrooks> Kyral, get the depends of kubuntu-desktop and remove them all
[04:19] <tjs> its a redhat project for distributed filesystems
[04:19] <mosty> palli, what is google?
[04:19] <tjs> you can run a single FS on a cluster
[04:19] <Aragorn_Guardian> kbrooks: how install sound in a motherboard with integrated sound ?
[04:19] <gm78> tjs, centos is a good bet for gfs...i dont think ubuntu has anything for it
[04:19] <Kyral> kbrooks, try installing DebFoster
[04:19] <tjs> ah
[04:19] <gm78> Aragorn_Guardian, what chipset?
[04:19] <tjs> gm78: thanks :)
[04:20] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: that would remove things like x-window-system-core as well - is that what you want?
[04:20] <gm78> tjs, welcome. centos is RHEL minus Red Hat trademarks
[04:20] <tjs> heh
[04:20] <tjs> cool
[04:20] <Aragorn_Guardian> intel D915GAV
[04:20] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, i'd just replace them by reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: right - fair enough
[04:20] <palli> mosty: Sorry, stupid question.
[04:20] <kbrooks> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Abort.
[04:21] <kbrooks> Why?
[04:21] <gm78> tjs, yeah. doesnt come with support obviously nor yum....pretty much all of the good things to do with RHEL, it is binary compatable tho, RPMS for RHEL will install fine on CentOS
[04:21] <Whistler> does ubuntu support isa network cards?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: might be easier to use deborphan or similar?
[04:21] <gm78> tjs, i mean it doesnt come with red hat network, it uses yum damn typos
[04:21] <tjs> ah
[04:21] <tjs> Im unfamiliar with RH since about 8.0
[04:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> kbrooks: intel D915GAV
[04:22] <mosty> Whistler, that's a kernel thing- any dist can support isa network cards
[04:22] <gm78> tjs, well RHEL is there expensive supported enterprise distro. CentOS just took their Source RPMS and recompiled them while putting their own logos in
[04:22] <coobra> why do my locales dont work :/
[04:22] <tjs> all of our software is targeted to ubuntu (package wise) and we are setting up a large hosting environment for our application, I want to use a distributed FS for the data
[04:22] <coobra> 
[04:22] <coobra> :/
[04:22] <tjs> some sort of NAS
[04:22] <kbrooks> tjs, nfs can be defined as a 'distributed' FS
[04:23] <gm78> tjs, well red hat hosts development for gfs, i think u can grab the source and a kernel module source code
[04:23] <kbrooks> So can smbfs
[04:23] <selinium> on boot-up, my home machine reported a duplicate error in the boot block. Is there anyway of saving this machine?
[04:23] <tjs> gm78: I might try that out
[04:23] <gm78> kbrooks, i thin gfs is more suited to clusters if im not mistken
[04:23] <Whistler> ok thx
[04:24] <gm78> tjs, cant guarantee it will even work on ubuntu tho, u might have to hack it if u know C (i dont lol :P) so i cant help u there
[04:24] <Bubbling_Zombie> somebody who knows an rss agregator for gnome who can import xml files generated by akregator
[04:24] <tjs> thanks
[04:24] <kbrooks> gm78, you know
[04:24] <kbrooks> tjs, wait
[04:24] <tjs> kbrooks, sup?
[04:25] <gm78> kbrooks, hmmm?
[04:25] <krolden> Bubbling_Zombie: I think liferea can, not sure though
[04:25] <kbrooks> tjs, a kernel module works on kernels
[04:25] <tjs> yes
[04:25] <kbrooks> on the*
[04:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> thanks krolden , i'll try it out.
[04:25] <kbrooks> you dont have to hack it
[04:25] <kbrooks> it'll just work
[04:25] <gm78> kbrooks, yes, but red hat heavily modifies their kernels, i have had problems witht hem before
[04:27] <gm78> kbrooks, im not saying he will, im just saying from past experience it might not work well, i had to compile my own kernel on a CentOS system once it was causing so much trouble....altho im not sure if they did that again with RHEL 4, i know RHEL 3 was pretty bad
[04:32] <kbrooks> gm78, ubuntu != rh
[04:32] <dylan_> is it true that there are really no viruses for linux?
[04:32] <kbrooks> yup
[04:32] <dylan_> how?
[04:32] <krolden> anyone ever tried love-sources on ubuntu?
[04:33] <kbrooks> er, what do you mean by 'how'?
[04:33] <dylan_> i heard there were a lot of viruses
[04:33] <kbrooks> dylan_, for linux?
[04:33] <dylan_> right
[04:33] <cyphase> dylan_, there are a few (you can count them on 2 hands), but they can't spread really
[04:33] <kbrooks> dylan_, 'a lot' is not true
[04:33] <Seveas> dylan_, it would be hard to infect a linux computer, but it's possible
[04:33] <Seveas> and there are linux viruses
[04:33] <phzi> dylan_: the linux kernel evolves so fast, and linux is so deregulated, that there are basically no viruses for linux
[04:33] <dylan_> thanks!
[04:33] <cyphase> dylan_, it's very hard for a virus to attack a Linux computer
[04:33] <Seveas> phzi, that's a non-argument...
[04:34] <cyphase> that usually takes a real erson
[04:34] <kbrooks> dylan_, linux is multiuser and monothlic
[04:34] <Seveas> viruses rarely target the kernel...
[04:34] <cyphase> that would be very hard
[04:34] <phzi> viruses exploit holes in the OS to infect computers
[04:34] <dylan_> why can't i install firefox 1.0.4 via the Add/Remove Programs application?
[04:34] <cyphase> attacking the kernel
[04:34] <phzi> since linux is so actively changing, most security holes are fixed quickly
[04:34] <Seveas> phzi, holes in the security system you mean
[04:34] <kbrooks> dylan_, because warty gets NO programs
[04:34] <phzi> that's what I mean
[04:34] <kbrooks> dylan_, it's frozen.
[04:34] <Seveas> phzi, linux is just the kernel ;)
[04:35] <phzi> I know Seveas
[04:35] <Seveas> but I get the point :)
[04:35] <kbrooks> Seveas, true
[04:35] <phzi> that's what I'm talking about tho
[04:35] <dylan_> why can't i install firefox 1.0.4 via the Add/Remove Programs application?
[04:35] <selinium> on boot-up, my home machine reported a duplicate error in the boot block. Is there anyway of saving this machine?
[04:35] <Seveas> dylan_, you already have it
[04:35] <dylan_> im stuck with 1.0.2, no Seveas
[04:35] <Seveas> it's just called 1.0.2 on ubuntu
[04:35] <kbrooks> dylan_, because you have it
[04:35] <dylan_> oh thanks i didnt know
[04:35] <Seveas> but it has all 1.0.4 security patches
[04:35] <Bubbling_Zombie> whoever helped me with that agregator thing - it imported perfectly. Thanks (i'm not that good @ nicknames ^-^)
[04:35] <dylan_> but whenever i go to install extensions, i get the error message thati  need to install 1.0.4
[04:35] <krolden> Bubbling_Zombie: *waves*
[04:36] <Bubbling_Zombie> thanks o/
[04:36] <Seveas> dylan_: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[04:36] <_root_> *
[04:36] <kbrooks> gtg
[04:36] <dylan_> ok thanks
[04:36] <phzi> dylan_: you upgrade thru apt-get?
[04:36] <phzi> or synaptic package manager
[04:36] <kbrooks> phzi, dude
[04:36] <phzi> Hoary comes with 1.02 of firefox does it not?
[04:36] <ryan> hey guys, I seem to be getting a lot of MD5Sum mismatches lately.. is anyone else having this problem?
[04:36] <dylan_> sweet that worked!
[04:36] <dylan_> thanks!
[04:37] <Seveas> phzi, read back please :)
[04:37] <Seveas> I just explained it
[04:37] <Seveas> ryan, us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to have problems again
[04:37] <phzi> I did, I'm just pointing out that there is also an apt-get update package
[04:37] <Seveas> phzi, only from backports
[04:37] <Seveas> and this particular package is evil
[04:37] <Seveas> (in backports)
[04:37] <phzi> I'm running it
[04:38] <ryan> Seveas is there another repos I can replace it with?
[04:39] <dylan_> which is faster:  epiphany or firefox?
[04:39] <Seveas> ryan, just use archive.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <Seveas> dylan_, epiphany
[04:39] <ryan> ok
[04:39] <dylan_> Seveas_, are there extensions for epiphany?
[04:39] <Seveas> dylan_, ENOIDEA
[04:40] <selinium> Seveas: You once said about ubuntuguide.org that it wasn't very informative, and you mentioned an alternative.. Can you remember what page?
[04:40] <Seveas> selinium, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <Bubbling_Zombie> hey, i'm starting to like this gnome thing. Imagine that.
[04:40] <Seveas> :0
[04:41] <Whistler> Bubbling_Zombie i think so too
[04:41] <Whistler> :)
[04:41] <Seveas> gnome is good :)
[04:41] <dylan_> man im sick of BeatrIX linux...has anyone ever tried that?
[04:41] <selinium> Seveas: is there a particular section? I have been looing for some time... :)
[04:41] <thoreauputic> dylan_: apt-cache show epiphany-extensions
[04:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> gnome on the laptop, kde on the desktop. I can dig that :f
[04:41] <Seveas> selinium, there is the searchpage and the titleindex :)
[04:41] <Seveas> selinium, what are you looking for in particular?
[04:42] <dylan_> can i use my iPod in XMMS or in Linux at all?
[04:42] <Bubbling_Zombie> dylan_, try gtkpod
[04:42] <Seveas> dylan_, gtkpod
[04:42] <dylan_> thanks
[04:42] <tdela> Is the kde-core kde-3.4?
[04:43] <Hieronymus> !info kde-core
[04:43] <ubotu> kde-core: (The K Desktop Environment (Core)), section kde, is optional. Version: 5:42ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[04:43] <Seveas> tdela, apt-cache show $package
[04:43] <dylan_> synaptic can't find gtkpod
[04:43] <tdela> Seveas: is that for installed packages?
[04:43] <Seveas> dylan_, it's in universe
[04:43] <Seveas> tdela, all packages
[04:44] <selinium> Seveas: I have just installed a clean version of Ubuntu, I used the ubuntuguide to carry on with the configuration. I was looking for a more instructive page in a similar theme. If you see what I mean!:)
[04:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> try the wiki selinium
[04:44] <tdela> oh
[04:44] <tdela> sweet.
[04:44] <dylan_> universe what?
[04:44] <tdela> thanks Seveas
[04:44] <Seveas> selinium, don't fix a thing that isn't broken
[04:44] <Seveas> selinium, if it works, you don't need to configure it
[04:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> the universe reps. Try looking in "settings" -> "repesitorys"
[04:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> but with less bad spelling
[04:45] <dylan_> ok
[04:45] <Seveas> if it doesn't work you find answers for your problems on the wiki
[04:45] <Seveas> dylan_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:45] <Seveas> dylan_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:45] <dylan_> where do i find settings > repositories?
[04:45] <Seveas> dylan_, in synaptic
[04:45] <dylan_> ok thanks
[04:45] <Seveas> but read the pages behind the 2 urls I gave
[04:46] <selinium> Seveas: Sorry, my grammer in the last sentence sucked! In a previous install I used ubuntuguide, but i wanted to use a more informative webpage this time around! :)
[04:47] <dylan_> ok now im in settings > repositories in synaptic, it's just giving me a short list of the word "Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog"
[04:48] <selinium> to create Hoary install disk, I just have to download it and use nautilus-cd-burner to create it, yes?
[04:49] <Hieronymus> selinium: yeah
[04:49] <mgcross> hey, can someone help me? My workspace swticher has become borked....I get this error when checking prefs
[04:49] <Hieronymus> selinium: right-click the iso and select 'burn cd-image' (or something similar)
[04:49] <mgcross> Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_10/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value
[04:49] <selinium> Hieronymus: Cheers!
[04:49] <mgcross> selinuim: yes
[04:50] <selinium> Only 2hurs 20 minutes to go....
[04:51] <selinium> As this drive now has a version of warty on it, it wont keep any configs when I install Hoary will it?
[04:51] <catfox> mgcross, try deleting the applet, then re-adding it
[04:51] <dylan_> ok i tried going into universe to find gtkpod but i dont know what to do from there...please help
[04:51] <Bubbling_Zombie> selinium, try updating it using apt-get. Normally it'll keep most, if not all, of your own config files
[04:51] <Hieronymus> selinium: it will if you dist-upgrade
[04:51] <Hieronymus> not sure about cd
[04:52] <mgcross> already did..the I may have solved it through reading the darn error...readding did no good...configurationeditor...just followed the error
[04:52] <mgcross> lol
[04:52] <Bubbling_Zombie> you could use the cd to upgrade, but that seems like a big waste of bandwith to me
[04:53] <selinium> Bubbling_Zombie Hieronymus: I dont want it to keep any congfigs, so the cd will overwrite them, yes?
[04:53] <Hieronymus> selinium: Bubbling_Zombie is right, that'd be a waste. A clean install has advantages though
[04:53] <Hieronymus> selinium: if you tell it to
[04:53] <Bubbling_Zombie> selinium, if you reinstall it and format your partition: yes
[04:54] <selinium> Bubbling_Zombie Hieronymus: Cool, I just want this machine to be clean and tidy before I go muddying it up with all my apt-gets! Cheers
[04:56] <dylan_> ok so there's no way i can connect my ipod to my linux box and place songs on it?
[04:56] <Chillout> hi could someone please help me installing JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net/) ? i tried to follow the instructions but seem to fail already at installing the required JAVA
[04:56] <Chillout> :(
[04:57] <randykay> Hello All.
[04:57] <Seveas> Chillout: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:58] <selinium> dylan__ What is the problem? Have you installed gtkpod?
[04:59] <dylan_> i cannot find it
[04:59] <Nermal> type gtkpod ?
[04:59] <Nermal> it's not difficult
[04:59] <randykay> Are the cursors (fancy ones in Hoary) gone from Breezy ?  Mine look like MacOS9 ones.
[04:59] <dylan_> in synaptic, i did all of that.  it returns 0 results
[04:59] <Nermal> dylan_, sudo apt-get install gtkpod ?
[04:59] <dylan_> did that too
[05:00] <Chillout> Seveas: k, i am not sure which file exactly to download tho. could u send me a link?
[05:00] <goo> does anyone here have any experience with Cyrus and posgresql ?
[05:00] <Nermal> then you don't have all the repositories
[05:00] <selinium> dylan: are you using warty?
[05:00] <dylan_> im sorry i just installed linux this morning i dont know anything about linux
[05:00] <Nermal> goo, a little.. I used to be the uk business support for suse open exchange server
[05:00] <Bubbling_Zombie> dylan_, did you enable the universe?
[05:00] <dylan_> yes
[05:00] <Bubbling_Zombie> reload the sources
[05:00] <Nermal> and did an apt-get update ?
[05:00] <Bubbling_Zombie> *package list*
[05:01] <dylan_> i did not do apt-get update, should i?
[05:01] <Bubbling_Zombie> yes
[05:01] <Nermal> you should
[05:01] <selinium> dylan__ : It's frustrating when you first change!
[05:01] <dylan_> its updating
[05:01] <goo> Nermal, nice. How the <beeep> do you get cyrus to authenticate IMAP users against a postgresql database ?
[05:01] <Nermal> but in time you'll get to be old and bitter like the rest of us
[05:01] <selinium> dylan__ apt-get update refreshes your application lists
[05:01] <dylan_> yes, selinium, it is frustrating but im quite sure that i will be pleased with ubuntu...it autoconfigged all my devices ;) unlike BeatrIX
[05:01] <Nermal> goo, iirc, cyrus authenticates against LDAP on OE
[05:01] <Bubbling_Zombie> k, after it has updated, retry finding the gtkpod
[05:02] <Bubbling_Zombie> it'll be there
[05:02] <dylan_> ok its updated now what
[05:02] <Nermal> dylan_, try to install it again
[05:02] <dylan_> i did sudo apt-get install gtkpod and it returned the message "cannot find"
[05:02] <Nermal> oh
[05:02] <dylan_> should i reload the repositories again
[05:02] <Discipulus> dylan_, is your sources.list correct?
[05:02] <Chillout> Seveas: k, i am not sure which file exactly to download tho. could u send me a link please?
[05:02] <Nermal> dylan_, and you've added universe and all to your sources.list ?
[05:02] <selinium> dylan__ This is also the most helpful channel I have ever been on in 10 years of programming!
[05:03] <dylan_> i think ive added universe
[05:03] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$ apt-cache search gtkpod
[05:03] <Discipulus> gtkpod - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
[05:03] <Discipulus> gtkpod-aac - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
[05:03] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$
[05:03] <dylan_> ill try
[05:03] <Nermal> selinium, it used to be
[05:03] <goo> Nermal, then why do you reply to my question about cyrus and postgresql when you just know anything about cyrus and LDAP ??
[05:03] <ubuntu> hi. how do i change the resolution on my monitor without X running?
[05:03] <bob2> dovecot!
[05:03] <june> hmm...
[05:03] <Nermal> goo, because you asked a stupid vague question like "does anyone here have any experience with Cyrus and posgresql ?"
[05:03] <shadowbot> Hey everyone
[05:03] <june> curiously...
[05:04] <Discipulus> chipparn, without X there is no reason the change the resolution
[05:04] <dylan_> SUCCESS! ive updated the repositories and it works...thanks so much!
[05:04] <Nermal> and have experience with cyrus and postgresql, just not making them talk to each other for authentication
[05:04] <selinium> dylan__ np
[05:04] <Bubbling_Zombie> Discipulus, small fontsize on the console is kinda nifty tho
[05:04] <Nermal>  "does anyone here have any experience with Cyrus authenticating against a posgresql database?" would have been better
[05:04] <june> i suceed to install UBUNTU now.
[05:04] <chipparn> Discipulus: hehe well.. yes there is becuse when i run X the resulotion is to high for this monitor
[05:04] <june> so happy...haha
[05:04] <Nermal> and I wouldn't have wasted hundreds of key presses answering a numpty
[05:04] <Bubbling_Zombie> nice june
[05:05] <dylan_> bye and thanks an infinity to the googol power!
[05:05] <Discipulus> chipparn, edit the xorg.conf
[05:05] <june> thanx zombie~!
[05:05] <Nermal> I'm melting :|
[05:05] <bob2> goo: it's even better to just ask your question up front, instead of doing the whole "does nayone know anything about $blah"
[05:05] <Hieronymus> Nermal: #ubuntu-ice will help you
[05:05] <chipparn> Discipulus. ok whith what? gedit dont work. ive tried it.
[05:05] <Discipulus> heh
[05:05] <Nermal> need aircon :|
[05:05] <Discipulus> vi usually works good
[05:05] <Discipulus> :-P
[05:05] <Discipulus> or nano
[05:05] <Nermal> chipparn, vi ?
[05:05] <Discipulus> or pico
[05:05] <Nermal> ed ?
[05:06] <Discipulus> people get too dependant on GUI apps, it sickens me!
[05:06] <chipparn> Discipulus. is the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?
[05:06] <shadowbot> Hey angel_
[05:06] <Nermal> Discipulus, yeah! take their monitors away and glue LEDs to their cpu registers
[05:06] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$ slocate xorg.conf
[05:06] <Discipulus> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <chipparn> Nermal. ?
[05:06] <shadowbot> Hey dylan_
[05:06] <Discipulus> Nermal, LET'S TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
[05:06] <Moppin> Nermal, lol
[05:06] <Nermal> :D
[05:07] <Nermal> chipparn, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:07] <dylan_> crap...iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.
[05:07] <dylan_>  get this from gtkpod just now, i dont know what to do....im using an ipod shuffle
[05:07] <Nermal> mount the ipod I guess
[05:07] <chipparn> Nermal.. ah ok thanks.. i will try that
[05:07] <Panzerboy> hey
[05:07] <Discipulus> lol
[05:07] <Nermal> and point gtkpod to the right place
[05:07] <Chillout> hi could someone please help me installing JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net/) ? i tried to follow the instructions but seem to fail already at installing the required JAVA
[05:07] <dylan_> ok ill try
[05:07] <shadowbot> shorty114!~shorty114@shorty114.user in #WordPress said: message
[05:07] <Panzerboy> anyone knows a good small utility for monitoring the log files?
[05:07] <Nermal> tail ?
[05:07] <Discipulus> tail -f
[05:07] <Nermal> logcheck ?
[05:07] <krolden> what's with the universe in sources.list?
[05:08] <Panzerboy> let me check logcheck
[05:08] <Seveas> Panzerboy, multitail
[05:08] <Panzerboy> thanks
[05:08] <Nermal> I'm stuck to my chair
[05:08] <Discipulus> Chillout, apt-cache search java
[05:08] <Panzerboy> maibe in the end i'll just spawn a couple of xterms with tail -f's in them
[05:08] <randykay> dylan_: Check that /media/ipod exists.  In gtkpod I had to change /mnt/ipod to /media/ipod in the preferences.
[05:08] <Nermal> Panzerboy, logcheck will watch logfiles for security alerts and mail you suspect bits
[05:08] <Seveas> Discipulus, java is not in the official repositories
[05:08] <shadowbot> tecno-wiz!~tecno-wiz@82-46-104-242.cable.ubr02.chap.blueyonder.co.uk in #WordPress said: messages
[05:08] <Discipulus> Seveas, it is in multiverse though
[05:08] <Discipulus> ;-)
[05:08] <G|immer> I copied some deb packages to cd using Gnome CD/DVD writer, and now they have a "%3a" characters inside the name. What does that represent? a space?!
[05:08] <Panzerboy> Nermal: i've used logwatch in fc4 it was interesting, thanks
[05:08] <Seveas> Discipulus, nope...
[05:08] <dylan_> ok ill try that, randykay should i do that in terminal?
[05:08] <Nermal> bob2, +q shadowbot ?
[05:09] <Bubbling_Zombie> Chillout, try searching the wiki for java. There are a couple of howto's for it. Pick the one you like best ^-^
[05:09] <shadowbot> tecno-wiz!~tecno-wiz@82-46-104-242.cable.ubr02.chap.blueyonder.co.uk in #WordPress said: message
[05:09] <Discipulus> Seveas, Filename: dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb
[05:09] <Seveas> Nermal, thanks for noticing
[05:09] <Chillout> Discipulus: this gives me a long output
[05:09] <randykay> dylan_: Mine cam up as /media/Randy's IPO.  I had to ln -s "/media/Randy's IPO" /media/ipod
[05:09] <bob2> Nermal: thanks
[05:09] <Nermal> Seveas, np :)
[05:09] <randykay> dylan_: yes.
[05:09] <Seveas> Discipulus, that is NOT multiverse...
[05:09] <Discipulus> Chillout, sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:09] <Seveas> that is hoary-extras from backports
[05:09] <selinium> dylan__ Sadly, you may need to run the install on a windows machine, as far as i remember this formats the drive in the pod. You may need to format the drive before you can use gtkpod. Not sure.
[05:09] <Discipulus> Seveas, I can still install it though!
[05:10] <Seveas> Discipulus, only with backports enabled....
[05:10] <Seveas> and that's not the default (and not the recommended way)
[05:10] <randykay> dylan_: I am also new to Linux/ipod.  ftkpod works very well.  I can see everything and copy to and copy from.  Very nice.
[05:10] <goo> bob2, yup, you're right. I'll come back asking better questions some other day.
[05:10] <dylan_> dylan@ubuntu:~$ /media/Dylan's IPO
[05:10] <dylan_> > ln -s /media/Dylan's IPO /media/ipod
[05:10] <dylan_> bash: /media/Dylans IPO
[05:10] <dylan_> ln -s /media/Dylans: No such file or directory
[05:10] <dylan_> dylan@ubuntu:~$
[05:10] <Discipulus> Seveas, well thankfully I have it enabled
[05:10] <randykay> dylan_: Sorry.  gtkpod
[05:10] <selinium> randykay: had you already installed the pod on a windows machine? I think this formats the pods drive?
[05:10] <Chillout> Discipulus: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 tells me it cant find the file
[05:10] <Nermal> dylan_, for starters, you need to escape spaces in bash
[05:10] <Seveas> Chillout: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[05:10] <Nermal> with a \
[05:11] <Nermal> and also, no need to symlink it
[05:11] <randykay> selinium:  yes.
[05:11] <Discipulus> Chillout, add backport to your sources.list
[05:11] <Nermal> just change the prefs in gtkpod
[05:11] <dylan_> ok
[05:11] <bob2> Seveas: where in the wiki/bot is that handy tip?
[05:11] <Seveas> bob2, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:11] <Seveas> (afaik)
[05:11] <randykay> dylan_: use " " quote marks around Dylan's IPO as there are spaces in there.
[05:11] <Chillout> Seveas: ok, but i dont know which file exactly to dowload. i am all new to linux
[05:11] <dylan_> iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.
[05:12] <nicklas> Who maintains the backport repository?
[05:12] <coolkev> hello, Just recently i got an error a certain thing was unstable and i force quit it without reloading... I have restarted many time after that... but no luck... now none of my programs show in the bottom panel
[05:12] <Seveas> Chillout, you need the 'linux self extracting binary'
[05:12] <coolkev> even after i minimize them
[05:12] <selinium> dylan_ I think that you may need to install it via itunes on a windows machine before you will get the file structure.
[05:12] <dylan_> ok i did ln -s /media/"Dylan's IPO" and i get no message.  is that good?
[05:12] <Discipulus> dylan_, why are you symlinking it?
[05:13] <randykay> dylan_: That's good.
[05:13] <dylan_> sombody told me too.  thanks
[05:13] <dylan_> to*
[05:13] <coolkev> also i got beagle from synaptic on Hoary... and it doesn't open
[05:13] <Chillout> Saveas: http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp gives me 2 files to chose
[05:13] <Chillout> Saveas: both are self-extracting
[05:14] <dylan_> now i get the error message:  '/media/Dylan's IPO/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[05:14] <coolkev> it shows up as Best in my Application>Accessories
[05:14] <dabaR> a .rpm,. anmd a bin, choose the bin.
[05:14] <dabaR> if you want to install from tehre,...
[05:14] <Seveas> Chillout, do NOT use the .rpm.bin
[05:14] <Chillout> Saveas: ok, ill download the other one
[05:14] <Discipulus> Chillout, last time I checked you didn't use an RPM based distro....
[05:14] <randykay> dylan_: In gtkpod did you change the preferences to point to /media/ipod?
[05:15] <GullyFoyle> hello, i installed ubuntu on a 3rd drive, and it completely disabled my onboard NIC, now the ethernet card is not even visible to windows or the other linux distro i have on my other 2 drives
[05:15] <cyphase> Seveas, sorry about that
[05:15] <cyphase> shadowbot
[05:15] <dylan_> gtkpod == garbage
[05:15] <coolkev> anyone can help me
[05:15] <selinium> dylan_ THERE IS NO FILE STRUCTURE ON YOUR IPOD. The drive needs to be formatted. This is what gives your pod its name and structure. The pod does not konw it is Dylan's IPOD
[05:15] <Chillout> Discipulus: sorry, what did u check?
[05:15] <coolkev> only ubuntu people can help me i think
[05:16] <GullyFoyle> does anyone know how to get any of my distros to detect the NIC?
[05:16] <coolkev> my programs don't show in the bottom panel anymre
[05:16] <Discipulus> Chillout, you don't use an RPM based distro, so why would you download an RPM?
[05:16] <dylan_> ok...so i need to format it in windows?
[05:16] <Discipulus> Chillout, common sense would tell someone that...
[05:17] <dabaR> coolkev right click on the bottom panel, and add to panel.
[05:17] <randykay> dylan_: Or a MAC if your ipod has never been setup before.  After that gtkpod works just fine.
[05:17] <coolkev> ok
[05:17] <dabaR> THen choose window list
[05:17] <coolkev> then what?
[05:17] <slask3n> are there any mapapplications to linux? similar to AutoRoute etc.?
[05:17] <selinium> dylan_ I set up a pod for a friend a while ago, but in the set up it formats the ipods drive and gives it a file structure. Any PC will do.
[05:17] <randykay> dylan_: I guess gtkpod does not do the initial setup.  Thanks for pointing that out selinium.
[05:17] <coolkev> ahh thanks
[05:17] <dabaR> works?
[05:17] <selinium> randykay: np :)
[05:18] <coolkev> ye
[05:18] <coolkev> thanks
[05:18] <dabaR> welcome.
[05:18] <Chillout> Saveas: ok, downloaded it and will try with the commands you gave me
[05:18] <coolkev> also is beagle working with Haory?
[05:18] <ralc> the wpasupplicant's md5 doesnt match and i need that package for my wireless network. what can i do?
[05:18] <carambol> what the command " killall gnome-panel" is doing?
[05:18] <carambol> is it for placing new install software in menu?
[05:18] <SDFH_Linux> how i make my wireless card work?
[05:18] <coolkev> i tried to get it from Synaptic and it gets it and install is, and i see an icon in Applications>accessories saying Best
[05:18] <dabaR> anything that is missing from the panels, u can usually get it there. Also killall gnome-panel in a terminal refreshes your panel, if you add something, or whatever.
[05:19] <Whistler> what should i use to connect to ssh shell?
[05:19] <randykay> Does anyone know if it is possible to get the ipod to play ogg vorbis files ?  Can I copy a plugin on my ipod ???
[05:19] <Seveas> ralc, use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive
[05:19] <coolkev> but Beagle doesn't open when i click that icon
[05:19] <ralc> SDFH_Linux, which wireless card do you have?
[05:19] <Seveas> Whistler, ssh username@machine
[05:19] <SDFH_Linux> netgear wg511
[05:19] <ralc> Seveas, okay ill try
[05:19] <dabaR> it will work:)
[05:20] <selinium> dylan_: let me konw how you get on! :)
[05:20] <carambol> dabaR, it is not for placing new install software in Appl menu?
[05:20] <dylan_> how i get on what?
[05:21] <dabaR> carambol: I dont understand, sorry, please rephrase.
[05:21] <Discipulus> randykay, does an iPod support ogg files?
[05:21] <selinium> dylan_ with your pod
[05:21] <carambol> dabaR, i have installed gnomebaker but i have no entry in Applications
[05:21] <SDFH_Linux> anyone how i fix this?
[05:22] <Ian123456> Intel Desktop Board D915Gav = No sound. Anyone helpme!
[05:22] <dabaR> carambol, you can add entries to the menus. Ill get the procedure, just a sec.
[05:22] <carambol> dabaR, ok
[05:22] <dylan_> i got on my ipod recently using WinAmp with the ml_ipod plugin
[05:23] <Chillout> Saveas: fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  tells me "command not found"
[05:23] <carambol> dabaR, is it refered to in ubuntuguide?
[05:23] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[05:23] <GullyFoyle> msi kt6 delta board has had the NIC completely disbled by ubuntu. now it doesnt even work in windows.
[05:23] <Discipulus> carambol, NEVER NEVER mention ubuntuguide
[05:23] <Discipulus> Seveas, tell carambol about ubuntuguide
[05:24] <selinium> dylan_: have you never used itunes to set up the drive then?
[05:24] <carambol> why not?
[05:24] <Seveas> carambol: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:24] <dylan_> it was autoconfigged drive
[05:24] <dylan_> the ipod, that is
[05:24] <coolkev> how do you find out info about a package... do you type sudo apt-get info Beagle?
[05:24] <Ian123456> Sound in Ubuntu Hoary whit Board Intel D915Gav? Anyone?
[05:24] <dabaR> you guys are weird, just an observation.
[05:24] <coolkev> yes
[05:24] <Seveas> coolkev, almost correct
[05:24] <Seveas> coolkev, use show instead of info
[05:24] <Discipulus> coolkev, apt-cache show Beagle
[05:24] <jasoncohen> Chillout, you need to install java-package- sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:24] <selinium> dylan_: That is strange, Did you buy it second hand?
[05:24] <coolkev> ohh ok thanks
[05:24] <dabaR> carambol: anyhow...dunno, but, I know that it should be in the Apps>Accessories menu, looked there?
[05:25] <dylan_> i bought it at the Chicago Apple Store on North Michigan Ave, if that's what you mean
[05:25] <Ian123456> Please Help me!!
[05:25] <dabaR> say with what.
[05:25] <carambol> dabaR in  Accessoirs
[05:25] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, how would ubuntu "disable" your NIC?
[05:25] <dabaR> ya, looked there?
[05:26] <carambol> thx, dabaR
[05:26] <kailey> Freaky.
[05:26] <dabaR> a pink cd icon.
[05:26] <dabaR> carambol: its there?
[05:26] <Chillout> Saveas: i donwloaded the java bin, then i did sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package (ok), then chmod +x [the .bin file]  (ok) but the next thing u told me to do: fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  tells me: command not found
[05:26] <carambol> yeah
[05:26] <dabaR> welcome.
[05:26] <Ian123456> whit sound in Ubuntu Hoary whit Board Intel D915Gav
[05:26] <carambol>  many thnx dabaR
[05:26] <dabaR> sure.
[05:26] <Ian123456> Tanks
[05:26] <selinium> dylan_: i don't know what else to say then. does winamp allow you to name your pod?
[05:27] <dabaR> Ian123456: repeat your question.
[05:27] <dylan_> yes but im not using windows on this machine
[05:27] <Ian123456> I have't sound in Ubuntu Hoary
[05:27] <jasoncohen> Chillout, what command - make-jpkg: command not found?
[05:27] <dabaR> thanks.
[05:28] <Ian123456> I have a Intel Desktop Board D915Gav
[05:28] <GullyFoyle> jasoncohen: i installed ubuntu and i couldnt connect to net because it couldnt find an ethernet card. reboot to windows and it cant find it either
[05:28] <Chillout> jasoncohen: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:28] <Seveas> Chillout, then you did not install java-package correctly
[05:28] <crimsun> Ian123456: paste me result of: lspci -v |grep audio
[05:28] <Seveas> try sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:28] <Ian123456> ok
[05:28] <jasoncohen> Chillout, dpkg -l java-package
[05:29] <Chillout> Seveas: well might be. i did what u wrote me ^^
[05:29] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, is it enabled in the BIOS?
[05:29] <Ian123456> nothing
[05:29] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, onboard NIC right?
[05:29] <Seveas> Chillout, something might have gone wrong
[05:29] <Seveas> aptitude is not the best in reporting errors
[05:29] <GullyFoyle> not visible in bios either. i think i have to reset cmos jumper now. grrr
[05:29] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, also, are you sure it's not defective? did it work before in windows
[05:30] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, ubuntu would not "disable" it
[05:30] <jasoncohen> Chillout, sudo apt-get install java-package to make sure
[05:30] <Chillout> Seveas: so i try again with 1) sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, 2) chmod +x [the .bin file]  3) fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  4) sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]  )
[05:30] <qt2> do imac keyboards have a printscreen button?
[05:30] <GullyFoyle> it's worked for over a year in windows, debian, and yoper
[05:30] <qt2> apt is missig s many cool things...
[05:30] <qt2> stepmania.... darkice...
[05:30] <Seveas> Chillout, try apt-get install java-package
[05:30] <kasha> Hi
[05:30] <Seveas> fakeroot is obviously there
[05:31] <Chillout> Seveas: what do i write for "java-package"?
[05:31] <Ian123456> crimsun lspci -v |grep audio don't work
[05:31] <jasoncohen> wouldn't aptitude give an error if it couldn't install it?
[05:31] <selinium> dylan_: I can only go by what I saw when I installed ny friends ipod with itunes. It formatted the drive, maybe in a different way than out of the box. I can only suggest trying it with itunes and then gtkpog should work. Ask randykay what he did with his.
[05:31] <Seveas> qt2, darkice is in there
[05:31] <Seveas> Chillout, java-package
[05:31] <qt2> is it?
[05:31] <Seveas> :)
[05:31] <kasha> I have a trouble with vpn mppe conection to my ISP - kernel-panic
[05:31] <jasoncohen> Chillout, what do you mean, what do you write? sudo apt-get install java-package
[05:31] <crimsun> Ian123456: why doesn't it?
[05:31] <Chillout> Seveas: :), ok
[05:31] <Seveas> qt2, yes
[05:31] <Seveas> qt2 in universe
[05:31] <Chillout> Seveas: it tells me that it couldnt find the package
[05:32] <qt2> so it is...
[05:32] <kasha> Anobody have solution
[05:32] <qt2> still dont have stepmania \o/
[05:32] <qt2> :P
[05:32] <Ian123456> I have no idea.... It just don't work
[05:32] <Seveas> :)
[05:32] <Chillout> ??? i downloaded it tho
[05:32] <Seveas> Chillout, you need to enable multiverse
[05:32] <Seveas> Chillout: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:32] <phinnaeus> i am having trouble running a samba server, can someone help me?
[05:32] <Seveas> Chillout: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:32] <GullyFoyle> jasoncohen: mandrake did the same thing to my box about 6 mos. ago but i forget what i did to fix it
[05:32] <jasoncohen> qt2, apt is just the package management tool. it's the repositories that contain the software you want.
[05:33] <Ian123456> do you want to know wat "lsmod | grep snd " do?
[05:33] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, sounds like a weird mobo problem
[05:33] <jasoncohen> Ian123456, lsmod shows loaded modules, grep searches
[05:33] <Seveas> Ian123456, it lists which kernel modules are loaded and only shows modules with snd in the name
[05:33] <jasoncohen> Ian123456, so that searches for all modules with the string "snd" in them
[05:33] <Ian123456> ok
[05:34] <dabaR> hehe
[05:34] <Ian123456> snd_timer              23428  0
[05:34] <Ian123456> snd                    52228  1 snd_timer
[05:34] <Ian123456> soundcore               9824  1 snd
[05:34] <Ian123456> snd_page_alloc          9604  0
[05:34] <GullyFoyle> jasoncohen: debian worked fine, i just thought i'd try ubuntu because the apps and such are more up-to-date
[05:34] <Chillout> Seveas: the urls u gave me wont open :(
[05:34] <qt2> jasoncohen, i realize that.
[05:34] <levander> Even though I don't have another firefox instance running, when I start firefox it asks me what profile I want to use.  There's a file somewhere I need to delete so that firefox doesn't think it has another instance running?
[05:34] <Seveas> Ian123456, DO NOT paste in here
[05:34] <Seveas> Chillout, odd... let me check
[05:34] <jasoncohen> qt2, just clarifying as you said apt is missing a lot
[05:34] <qt2> jasoncohen, i was complaining about the ubuntu repositories... but i was too lazy to type that out :P
[05:34] <Ian123456> Sorry... why?
[05:34] <crimsun> Ian123456: search the Ubuntu wiki for instructions I've given for compiling the snd_azx driver from alsa-source in universe.
[05:34] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, debian testing is pretty up to date.
[05:34] <crimsun> !tell Ian123456 about alsa-source
[05:34] <jasoncohen> qt2, you just have to enable universe
[05:35] <Seveas> Chillout, both work fine here...
[05:35] <jasoncohen> qt2, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[05:35] <GullyFoyle> jasoncohen: when i  fix this i'm going back to it
[05:35] <phinnaeus> can someone help me set up a samba server?
[05:35] <qt2> jasoncohen, i have it enabled. :P
[05:35] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, i doubt it's an ubuntu problem if you saw the same thing in mandrake
[05:35] <jasoncohen> GullyFoyle, it sounds like a mobo issue
[05:35] <Ian123456> I have downloaded alsa Lib, oss, util and drivers... but it don't work
[05:35] <jasoncohen> qt2, and you might also want multiverse for some multimedia stuff
[05:36] <crimsun> Ian123456: I gave you instructions at the link above.
[05:36] <selinium> pinnaeus: there is a walk through at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:36] <Chillout> Seveas: mmh, strange seems firefox wont open any url now /worked fine a minute ago :( this is soooo frustrating
[05:36] <qt2> i thought multiverse was unsupported?
[05:36] <Seveas> selinium: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:36] <jasoncohen> qt2, so is universe
[05:36] <Seveas> qt2, it is community supported
[05:36] <Ian123456> I will try
[05:36] <Seveas> definitely not unsupported
[05:36] <qt2> i see.
[05:36] <selinium> Seveas: Ok, Will look
[05:36] <Seveas> Chillout, dns problems @ your provider?
[05:36] <dabaR> Ian123456: good luck
[05:37] <phinnaeus> thank you selinium
[05:37] <Discipulus> phinnaeus, DON'T GO THERE!
[05:37] <Chillout> Seveas: now its working again.. strange
[05:37] <Ian123456> tanks for everyone ! :)
[05:37] <Chillout> Seveas: i wll check the urls u gave me
[05:37] <qt2> Seveas, so... what's so bad about ubuntuguide?
[05:37] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, usually it's a matter of installing samba-server and setting it up either by hand or samba-swat
[05:37] <Discipulus> phinnaeus, don't use ubuntuguide, ever
[05:37] <dabaR> welcome
[05:37] <Seveas> qt2, read the page behind that link...
[05:37] <Discipulus> !ubuntuguide
[05:37] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[05:38] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, sudo apt-get install samba swat
[05:38] <dabaR> should I use the ubuntuguide if I want a set of instructions without an ex[planation?
[05:38] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, then http://localhost:931/
[05:38] <Discipulus> dabaR, if you want a set of instructions without explanation then you shouldn't be using Linux.
[05:38] <dabaR> Discipulus: really, what if I like it?
[05:39] <tecno-wiz> hey
[05:39] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, my mistake - http://localhost:901
[05:39] <qt2> Seveas, eh? page behinf that link?
[05:39] <Discipulus> dabaR, if you don't want to learn how to do something than you are not fit to be in the linux world.
[05:39] <qt2> *behind
[05:39] <dabaR> I mean, if I like Linux, but still want a set of instructions with no explanation cause I cant remember a syntax?
[05:39] <Discipulus> Seveas, what is ubuntuguide
[05:39] <Seveas> qt2: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:39] <Discipulus> qt2, follow the link.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> dabaR: you're free to do as you wish, of course :)
[05:39] <Chillout> Seveas: so i paste the urls in the top box of (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38) into my sources.list?
[05:40] <hack_benjamin> a friend of mine upgraded to breezy and would now like to downgrade. hows it done?
[05:40] <rob^> Seveas, you'll be happy to know an official one is comming out soon (with breezy)
[05:40] <qt2> oh... *didnt notice the ending bit*
[05:40] <Hieronymus> Chillout: if you want to be free you can/must remove multiverse and restricted
[05:40] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, read this wiki about setting up samba - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[05:40] <phinnaeus> oh awesome, thanks
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Seveas: of course, you wrote that entry, so some might say it's a bit extreme to pan ubuntuguide completely :)
[05:40] <Discipulus> qt2, it's good to read everything someone says
[05:41] <Chillout> Hieronymus: if u want to be free?? sorry dont get it
[05:41] <Hieronymus> Chillout: if you want to use only free software (free as in freedom, sometimes also called 'open-source software')
[05:42] <Hieronymus> Chillout: restricted and multiverse contain software which isn't free
[05:42] <hack_benjamin> anyone? how downgrade to hoary again?
[05:42] <selinium> Seveas: I understand the reasoning behind not using ubuntuguide but it linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation and was one of the first resources I found using the wiki! :)
[05:42] <Chillout> Hieronymus: well what i want is to install java. and i am trying to follow Seveas instructions
[05:42] <jasoncohen> phinnaeus, i would recommend using swat to setup samba. it's very simple to use
[05:42] <Discipulus> hack_benjamin, change "breezy" to "hoary" in your sources.list
[05:42] <Discipulus> hack_benjamin, then 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:42] <qt2> Discipulus, heh, yeah yeah, sorry, i'm only half awake...
[05:42] <Discipulus> hack_benjamin, then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:42] <hack_benjamin> its not mine- im a gentoo user- you'll have to forgive me- where is the file?
[05:42] <Hieronymus> Chillout: okay, just do what Seveas said then
[05:43] <Discipulus> qt2, no problems mate, I'm a morning person, most aren't
[05:43] <kasha> anybody can help with ubuntu connect to vpn ?
[05:43] <Chillout> Seveas: so i paste the urls in the top box of (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38) into my sources.list?
[05:43] <Discipulus> hack_benjamin, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <Hieronymus> Chillout: correct
[05:43] <hack_benjamin> cheers
[05:43] <Chillout> Hieronymous: ok, i do that then :)
[05:43] <Hieronymus> Seveas: do you think maybe you could tweak/edit the !sources a bit? To add comments etc?
[05:44] <jasoncohen> Discipulus, that won't work
[05:44] <Hieronymus> Seveas: or maybe I could do that
[05:44] <qt2> Discipulus, heh, it's 16 minutes to noon here, i haven't been to sleep in 2.5 days... :P
[05:44] <dabaR> I think ubotu should be configured to allow queries from unregistered nicks.
[05:44] <dabaR> this way he spams the channel.
[05:44] <qt2> i dont even remember when morning is anymore...
[05:44] <jasoncohen> Discipulus, there is no easy way to downgrade- only to upgrade
[05:45] <jasoncohen> Discipulus, apt is made to allow for smooth upgrades- not downgrades
[05:45] <selinium> Quick question, is it possibly to upgrade from x86 to 64bit?
[05:45] <kasha> SnakeBite when i connect with mppe kernel-panic , my platform is AMD 64
[05:46] <kasha> no
[05:46] <selinium> kasha: was that an answer to my question?
[05:46] <Discipulus> jasoncohen, oh, my bad
[05:47] <kasha> SnakeBite yes, configs from my prevuis Mandrake linux
[05:47] <thoreauputic> kasha: umm...are you in the right channel?
[05:47] <kasha> selinium - sorry
[05:48] <Chillout> Seveas: ok, i added the repositories. i then did "apt-get install java-package" (ok) what wat then the next thing to do?
[05:48] <kasha> thoreauputic  - my system is ubuntu
[05:48] <kasha> ubuntu 5.04
[05:49] <thoreauputic> kasha: oh OK - I couldn't see anything from SnakeBite
[05:49] <thoreauputic> kasha: a tab complete error I guess - sorry
[05:50] <selinium> Has anyone here recovered a drive with a bad boot block? As Ubuntu loads it reports a duplicate block in the boot. Any ideas?
[05:50] <kasha> thoreauputic - no info in /var/log/syslog - after pon izum - izum - is my config for ISP  - system just freeze
[05:51] <kasha> after reboot no info in logs - in config option debug ang dump enabled
[05:51] <johnhopkins> hi, anyone had any joy on running ardour on a powerbook G4. Compiled it ok but can't get Jack to work. Anyone got any pointers?
[05:51] <kasha> in /etc/modules - ppp_mppe
[05:52] <rob^> I'm getting this on the Launchpad GPG key Management page when trying to insert my gpg fingerprint: Key 1024D/2CF20033 was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.
[05:52] <rob^> any ideas?
[05:53] <_maydayjay_> Sorry if this has already been asked, but has anyone else experienced difficulties running the XFCE4 packages?
[05:53] <kasha> :-(
[05:53] <steve_> nope am using one
[05:53] <ryan> maydayjay - im on xfce right now
[05:53] <ryan> using the ubuntu packages
[05:54] <thoreauputic> _maydayjay_: Just Works (tm) here
[05:54] <ColonelKernel> is it possible to boot ubuntu livecd off of a usb storage device?
[05:54] <qt2> *looks through synaptic* where IS jack anyway?
[05:54] <ColonelKernel> I could use a 1g and use the extra space to store settings couldnt I?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> qt2: jackd perhaps
[05:55] <crimsun> qt2: jack or jackd?
[05:55] <Seveaz> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache show jack | grep Filename
[05:55] <Seveaz> Filename: pool/universe/j/jack/jack_3.1.1-1_i386.deb
[05:55] <Seveaz> there it is :)
 Thanx, I'll try again... had problems on Hoary with some of the packages missing when I did an apt-get .  I am using regular sources, so I don't know what was wrong
[05:55] <Discipulus> ColonelKernel, it's possible if the BIOS supports USB Booting...
[05:55] <steve_> mayday add ossilation
[05:56] <thoreauputic> _maydayjay_: xfce4 is a universe package
[05:56] <Sionide> eeesshh
[05:56] <Sionide> i feel guilty
[05:56] <Sionide> i told a guy to try out ubuntu cos he was looking at going into linux
[05:56] <Sionide> and i think he's gone and wiped his windows install...
[05:56] <Sionide> :/
[05:56] <thoreauputic> steve_: no need - the Ubuntu xfce4 is fine
[05:56] <Discipulus> Sionide, don't feel bad, he had it coming!
[05:56] <steve_> well i dont know.  i added os and installed the whole desktop
[05:57] <qt2> well thre we go...
[05:57] <qt2>  woot again.
[05:57] <qt2> ;)
[05:57] <crimsun> use xfce4 from universe, steve_
[05:58] <_maydayjay_> thoreauputic - Thanks... I was using universe...just running the install again and I'll let you know...
[05:58] <Rubin> im getting md5sum mismatches on a lot of packages on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <Rubin> anyone else?
[05:58] <Seveas> Rubin, yes
[05:58] <Seveas> use archive.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <Seveas> us.a.c is b0rked *again*
[05:58] <steve_> thoreauputic: well the reason for this was i apt-get install xfld-desktop
[05:58] <qt2> remove the 'us.' from your sources. ;)
[05:59] <qt2> us mirrors are having problems it seems.
[05:59] <Rubin> think its a security risk?
[05:59] <ColonelKernel> Discipulus, Im trying to find a howto on google but I was hoping maybe someone could spare me the misery of searching if they know of one off hand - do you?
[05:59] <steve_> i know i know i can just install xfce4 and that us fine, but i want to have the the complete desktop and goodies too
[06:00] <thoreauputic> steve_: ah - i stay away from 3rd party repos personally
[06:00] <krolden> how do I see where apt-get has installed the files for a specific packet?
[06:00] <thoreauputic> krolden: dpkg -L <packagename>
[06:00] <mgcross> JUST ADDED sorry capslock..a new monitor...how do I rescan hardware? Strange things happening...
[06:00] <mgcross> or can I?
[06:00] <krolden> thoreauputic: thx
[06:00] <_maydayjay_> steve_ - I'm pretty sure xfce4 is a metapackage with all the goodies
[06:00] <steve_> thoreauputic : hmmmm i know so right after the installation i commented it out :) but worked okay
[06:01] <Hieronymus> mgcross: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <steve_> no no xfce4 is just the basic
[06:01] <steve_> i gues
[06:01] <mgcross> Hieronymous: thanks!
[06:01] <neels> hi all -- can i upgrade from warty to hoary?
[06:01] <qt2> steve_, xfce4 is a metapackage.
[06:01] <Hieronymus> neels: yes you can
[06:02] <neels> Hieronymus: how?
[06:02] <neels> ;)
[06:02] <steve_> am not sure, i have always installed the whole desktop since debian
[06:02] <Hieronymus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuideToHoary neels
[06:02] <greg> neels: sed -i s/warty/hoary/g /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:03] <mgcross> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver.org is not installed
[06:03] <Discipulus> ColonelKernel, hmm, you could put an OS on a USB drive, use the Live CD and just copy everything
[06:03] <thoreauputic> mgcross: xserever-xorg
[06:03] <Seveas> mgcross, xserver-xorg
[06:03] <neels> --- pondering ---
[06:03] <thoreauputic> oops
[06:03] <mgcross> oops..doh
[06:03] <thoreauputic> what seveas said ;)
[06:03] <Discipulus> ColonelKernel, or you could for the install, instead of selecting your HD, select a USB Drive
[06:03] <_maydayjay_> thoreauputic, qt2 - It ended up being the US archives... I removed the us. and I'm in business .. thanks for the tips!
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> Discipulus, that is what im hoping to do, and then use the extra 300mb or so for it to store settings in
[06:03] <dabaR> welcome
[06:04] <Discipulus> ColonelKernel, I'm not really sure what would work, but, as I said, the BIOS has to support booting from a USB drive and I certainly know that mine wouldn't...
[06:04] <thoreauputic> _maydayjay_: ah, us. strikes again ;-)
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> Discipulus, no I want to put it onto a shuttle board
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> itll support it
[06:04] <neels> greg & Hieronymus: does upgrading imply loading all new packages down via internet? I was thinking more like a CD upgrade...
[06:04] <Seveas> neels, you can do both
[06:04] <ColonelKernel> I just want to be able to copy things over like that
[06:05] <_maydayjay_> The US archive problems might explain a few other things... how long have they been having issues?
[06:05] <Hieronymus> neels: well, you'll need to get yourself a cd then
[06:05] <Seveas>  a few days now
[06:05] <Raskall-gprs> it is so incredibly cool to be online on the train. It makes the commute very bearable.
[06:05] <ColonelKernel> maybe write the /home dir (with one user only) to the other 300mb
[06:05] <neels> i've GOT a cd ... ;) ... but what do i do with it?
[06:05] <Discipulus> well, i'm out
[06:05] <ColonelKernel> so I can save settings and the such
[06:05] <shadowbot> Hey everyone
[06:05] <cyphase> oops
[06:05] <Sonderblade> what is the name of the stanislav python editor apt-file?
[06:05] <qt2> _maydayjay_, at least a few days, dont know beyond that.
[06:05] <shadowbot> Hey haich
[06:05] <thoreauputic> _maydayjay_: this is not the first time the us. archive has had troubles
[06:05] <Hieronymus> neels: I'm not relaly sure, try putting it in :)
[06:05] <Raskall-gprs> and with gnome-phonemanager I can do my sms-ing from the computer too. :)
[06:06] <cyphase> nooo
[06:06] <cyphase> it's not leaving
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> but if I can somehow copy the livecd to a 1g usb stick and boot it that would make me very happy
[06:06] <thoreauputic> neels: sudo apt-cdrom add
[06:06] <neels> Hieronymus: argh, that hurts. hmm, it doesn't fit! (lol)
[06:06] <ColonelKernel> i'd put 1g of ecc ram in the box and load it toram if it would support that too
[06:06] <Hieronymus> neels: :-)
[06:06] <neels> thoreauputic: aaah!
[06:06] <cyphase> ah, i c
[06:07] <cyphase> *sigh*
[06:07] <ColonelKernel> the livecd is static anyhow
[06:07] <shadowbot> Hey Dalkus
[06:07] <ColonelKernel> but the idea is to have no moving parts
[06:07] <ColonelKernel> no hd or cdrom drive nayhow
[06:07] <Dalkus> hi
[06:07] <Dalkus> er. I have a bit of a problem:
[06:07] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: silence?
[06:08] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, fishing for a respoence from anyone who may be knowledgeable
[06:08] <geek> buenas
[06:08] <neels> shit, a lot happening here. i'll make some room now -- THANKS!
[06:08] <ColonelKernel> this IS the most popular distro at distrowatch, and I see why
[06:08] <Dalkus> my computer is partitioned so that hda1 is windows and hda2 runs linux. I isntalled linux first a few months ago, then windows right afterwards and grub was installed on hda1 (windows partition). I just did a fresh install of windows on hda1 so grub has been wiped
[06:08] <Dalkus> how can I replace grub so I can boot back into linux and windows?
[06:08] <Dalkus> without reinstalling linux?
[06:08] <Hieronymus> Dalkus: there's a wiki page on that, restorgrub or something
[06:09] <highvoltage> hi. i just installed mediawiki 1.4, imported the database, and that works. how do I get my images to work?
[06:09] <Dalkus> thanks, I'll look
[06:09] <neels> Dalkus: you can also try booting your linux from a rescue cd
[06:09] <ColonelKernel> I nkow how to do that with fedora but not w ubuntu
[06:09] <highvoltage> sorry, wrong channel :)
[06:09] <Dalkus> neels, you think that'll work?
[06:09] <ColonelKernel> rescue cd is easy just grub-install /dev/hda
[06:09] <neels> Dalkus: and then run sudo grub-install
[06:09] <neels> Dalkus: YEP
[06:10] <Hieronymus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows Dalkus
[06:10] <Dalkus> right thanks, so boot up with rescue install, get root shell then just grub-install ?
[06:10] <Dalkus> ty, Hieronymus
[06:10] <neels> grub-install /dev/hda
[06:10] <Seveas> Dalkus, if you are in an experimental mood: http://ubuntu-nl.org/files/
[06:10] <neels> as ColonelKernel pointed out ;)
[06:10] <Dalkus> neels, not hda1?
[06:10] <Seveas> try the restore -grub script
[06:10] <thoreauputic> _maydayjay_: :D
[06:10] <neels> Dalkus: grub-install /dev/hda
[06:10] <Seveas> (no guarantees on usefulness)
[06:10] <neels> or whatever ;)
[06:11] <Dalkus> ok, thanks
[06:11] <neels> man grub-install
[06:11] <neels> ...
[06:11] <neels> ;)
[06:11] <neels> cheers everyone!
[06:11] <Seveas> neels, grub-install is not all you need
[06:11] <neels> huh??
[06:11] <seanj> hi, i have  a HP DeskJet 600c and hpijs installed, can print a test page with the gnome printer config applet but can't print to the locally connected printer with any app... this problem has lasted 2 months
[06:11] <thoreauputic> neels: man man ;-)
[06:11] <Dalkus> Seveas, no?
[06:11] <neels> Seveas: whatchatalkinabout
[06:12] <Seveas> Dalkus, or it must have changed since I tried it :)
[06:12] <Seveas> hmm, nvm
[06:12] <Dalkus> what else would I need to do...?
[06:12] <Seveas> that was on a live-cd without grub-install
[06:12] <neels> grub-install should work since it has been configured before.
[06:12] <Seveas> had to use the one on my disk
[06:12] <Dalkus> this'll work with a livecd aswell as rescue install?
[06:12] <neels> OK STEP BY STEP...
[06:13] <neels> Dalkus: boot from CD, then run the "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from your booted system, not from the rescue CD
[06:13] <neels> I AM SURE.
[06:13] <neels> oh...
[06:13] <neels> Dalkus:
[06:14] <Dalkus> er... boot an already installed ubuntu from the cd? I've never seen that option...?
[06:14] <neels> Dalkus: you might have to add your windows to the grub config.
[06:14] <neels> NO
[06:14] <thoreauputic> neels: from the live CD would that not require a chroot?
[06:14] <Dalkus> yeah I can do that easy enough
[06:14] <neels> aRGH!
[06:14] <neels> ;)
[06:14] <neels> NOT the live cd.
[06:14] <neels> e.g. you can use the slackware cd to boot a system from the hard disk
[06:14] <thoreauputic> neels: right, just to clear up the confusion :)
[06:15] <seanj> zero search results for printing in the online docs, is that intentional.. after 2 months? o_O
[06:15] <neels> i don't know if ubuntu cds offer booting from hd
[06:15] <Dalkus> I've got a server distro I can use to boot my current hd
[06:15] <neels> maybe you can ... this is getting too intricate.
[06:15] <neels> OK!
[06:15] <thoreauputic> neels: there's a rescue option, yes
[06:16] <seanj> and cups is crippled so it can't be configured manually. i swear this is a ploy for $$
[06:16] <neels> guys, i'm hungty ;)
[06:16] <neels> r
[06:16] <tritium> seanj, what are you trying to do?
[06:16] <Hieronymus> !give neels food
[06:16] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Hieronymus
[06:16] <neels> Dalkus: GOOD LUCK & kick that windows soon as possible.
[06:16] <seanj> hi, i'll re-post
[06:16] <neels> ... bye!
 hi, i have  a HP DeskJet 600c and hpijs installed, can print a test page with the gnome printer config applet but can't print to the locally connected printer with any app... this problem has lasted 2 months
[06:17] <Dalkus> neels, ahh I hate windows, I never use it :P It's for a friend that's staying round for a month
[06:17] <Dalkus> I'm quite happy under a linux only enviroment
[06:17] <seanj> i came here 2 months ago asking because there was nothing in the docs about printing, and nothing has changed.
[06:17] <neels> [munch munch] 
[06:17] <tritium> seanj, which docs are you referring to?
[06:17] <neels> BURRRRP!
[06:17] <seanj> the documentation wiki
[06:17] <seanj> i've already read the start guide from front to back
[06:18] <tritium> did you look in seanj, /usr/share/doc/cupsys ?
[06:18] <Hieronymus> seanj: that thing is edited by users, so please contribute something to it :-)
[06:18] <seanj> and used the instructions to no avail
[06:18] <neels> cool place. thanks to all of you! ;)
[06:18] <seanj> Hieronymus, what shall i contribute? hello, cups is purposely crippled so that you cannot configure your HP Deskjet?
[06:18] <jasoncohen> any decent gui apps to send SMS messages from PC to a mobile phone?
[06:18] <jasoncohen> i usually use gaim but it doesn't always work
[06:18] <thoreauputic> seanj: umm...purposely crippled??
[06:19] <seanj> "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing."
[06:19] <virtuald> !ubuntuguide
[06:19] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[06:19] <seanj> yes, thoreauputic, that's what i'd call it
[06:19] <tritium> jasoncohen, did you try "apt-cache search SMS | grep phone"
[06:19] <jasoncohen> seanj, CUPS by default only allows connections on localhost, and it restricts administrative access
[06:19] <tritium> seanj, did you look in /usr/share/doc/cupsys for more info?
[06:20] <Jowi> hi all
[06:20] <seanj> i did look in /usr/share/doc/cupsys and found the same documenation as comes with debian, but this isn't the debian version and it doesn't apply
[06:20] <trauma> hi
[06:20] <jasoncohen> tritium, yes- gnome-phone-manager is meant to work with a mobile phone using bluetooth/serial/IrDA. sms-client is cli
[06:20] <tritium> seanj, yes, it applies, aside from the web configuration
[06:20] <seanj> ubotu, no response from that url you gave
[06:20] <ubotu> seanj: Are you smoking crack?
[06:21] <seanj> what kind of idiot question is that?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> seanj: ubotu is a bot ;)
[06:21] <thoreauputic> seanj: don't be too hard on him :)
[06:21] <seanj> well colour me not technically inclined :/
[06:21] <seanj> sorry
[06:22] <Jowi> ubotu seem to need some modifications...
[06:22] <ubotu> Jowi: I give up, what is it?
[06:22] <seanj> it's very frustrating to see this older printer magically configured on every distro i've tried in a year and not be able to manage it in any way using Ubuntu Hoary
[06:22] <Jowi> !gnome
[06:22] <ubotu> Jowi: No idea
[06:22] <rob^> seanj, dont worry, your not the first person I've seen
[06:22] <seanj> k rob :/
[06:22] <Jowi> !kill
[06:22] <ubotu> Jowi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:22] <seanj> did anyone walk away with a working printer.. ?
[06:23] <rob^> !botabuse
[06:23] <ubotu> rob^: I haven't a clue
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Jowi: that'll do for abusing the bot I think
[06:23] <rob^> dang, ubotu doesnt have it
[06:23] <Jowi> what commands does ubotu accept?
[06:23] <jasoncohen> seanj, did you try adding it as a new printer in gnome-cups-manager ( system > administrative > printing)
[06:23] <jasoncohen> it should auto recognize the printer, find a driver for it and add it
[06:23] <seanj> yes jason i did, can even print the test page with no problems
[06:23] <seanj> using the gimp print + hpijs drivers
[06:24] <seanj> but only the gnome cups manager can print to it
[06:24] <seanj> and i have no idea why
[06:24] <tritium> seanj, can you give us an example where printing fails?
[06:26] <seanj> sure tritium. i've setup the printer with working drivers and succeeded in printing the cups test page using gnome-cups-manager. i open up gedit and a text file from my home dir, opt to print the file to the "Hp Deskjet" and nothing happens. If I open a web page in firefox, same results. Same with anything on the CLI.
[06:26] <seanj> i can't even cat file|lpr
[06:26] <CarinArr> hey guys.. i'm getting errors from synaptic trying to download some packages.. telling me the checksum's don't add up
[06:26] <seanj> but echo blah >/dev/lp0 works
[06:26] <Jowi> seanj, so you can print as root but nothing else?
[06:26] <tritium> seanj, does "lp" (not "lpr") work from the CLI?
[06:27] <seanj> i thought that jowi, but chmodded it 777 and still got nothing working
[06:27] <seanj> i'll check "lp", brb!
[06:27] <seanj> lp: error - scheduler not responding!
[06:27] <seanj> guess not.
[06:27] <CarinArr> so i tried downloading the packages straight from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ and trying to install them using dpkg -i tells me that the archive is corrupt
[06:28] <seanj> no errors in the cups log files
[06:28] <tritium> CarinArr, why not use apt-get or synaptic?
[06:28] <trauma> CarinArr, use another mirror
[06:28] <seanj> i think possibly someone's creativity ruined my productivity lol
[06:28] <tritium> seanj, any errors if you manually restart cups?  (sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart)
[06:28] <CarinArr> cause i'm getting errors tritium..
[06:28] <trauma> what about aptitude?
[06:28] <seanj> no errors on restart :/
[06:28] <tritium> CarinArr, US mirrors?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: us.archive has issues atm
[06:29] <Sonderblade> Why can't you bind SUPER_L+some other key shortcut anymore?
[06:29] <CarinArr> i was just using that us one cause i copied stuff from the ubuntu starter guide;)
[06:29] <CarinArr> what's a better mirror to use? (i'm in the uk)
[06:29] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: sounds like a gnome thing more than a Ubuntu thing
[06:30] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: try replacing us. with uk.
[06:30] <jasoncohen> seanj, working now?
[06:30] <trauma> CarinArr: what packages exactly are u downloading?
[06:30] <seanj> no jason, afraid not
[06:30] <CarinArr> trauma, imlib2 amongst others
[06:31] <seanj> maybe i can just install apsfilter or something
[06:31] <trauma> CarinArr: did you try apt-get install imlib2?
[06:32] <jasoncohen> seanj, when you print from gnome, do you see a printer icon in the top right panel? what does it show as the error?
[06:32] <CarinArr> uk. just hangs and doesn't do anything.. seem to have problems getting to *.ubuntu.com..
[06:32] <seanj> no printer icon, no error
[06:32] <seanj> no response of any kind
[06:32] <jasoncohen> that is weird
[06:32] <seanj> and the only distro i've tried so far that's given me this kind of grief with the printer lol
[06:32] <seanj> aye it is
[06:33] <seanj> i think 3 months is long enough to give up hope
[06:33] <seanj> thanks for tolerating my grumpiness
[06:33] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: try removing uk. completely then and just using archive.ubuntu.com or whatever
[06:33] <CarinArr> trauma, apt-get just says package not available
[06:33] <seanj> take care, ppl
[06:34] <trauma> CarinArr: probably your repositories
[06:34] <trauma> CarinArr: try to follow the guide on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[06:34] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: erm - try  libimlib2
[06:34] <thoreauputic> apt-cache search imlib2  <<--- always a good first move
[06:34] <tritium> CarinArr, after you changed repositories, you'll have to do an apt-get update before you can retrieve any packages.
[06:35] <CarinArr> trauma, that's the guide i followed from the start
[06:36] <thoreauputic> tritium: methinks the package name was wrong
[06:36] <Jowi> CarinArr, imlib2 gave me problems as well
[06:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> which type of perl would i need for this? configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:36] <Erealz> hi all
[06:36] <tritium> thoreauputic, ah, okay ;)
[06:36] <trauma> weird
[06:36] <Erealz> im new to ubuntu
[06:36] <Jowi> i downloaded it from source and comiled it myself
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Jowi: it's right there - it's called libimlib2
[06:36] <tritium> Jowi, using an ubuntu package would be the preferred approach.
[06:36] <Jowi> thoreauputic, yes, but for me it did not work
[06:36] <sam_> couldnt the apt programs check for changes to sources.list and automatically upgrade if needed?
[06:37] <Jowi> imlib2 is broken
[06:37] <Jowi> imlib2-1.0.5.tar.gz works
[06:37] <trauma> then source is the only solution
[06:37] <Erealz> im about to try it out , and i just wanted to know what set it apart from other distros , i see that it #1 on distrowatch so i wanted to know why is so populer?
[06:37] <trauma> can be downloaded from http://freshmeat.net/projects/imlib2/
[06:37] <CarinArr> thoreauputic, so why is there one imlib2 and one libimlib2 in synaptic? are they the same?
[06:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any ideas?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: I see no imlib2 here on a search
[06:38] <Jowi> traume, imlib2-1.0.6.tar.gz does not work until 1.0.5 has been installed though
[06:38] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: do you have extra repos?
[06:38] <CarinArr> thoreauputic, i have the repositories described in: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[06:38] <CybeRc> :)
[06:38] <tritium> CarinArr, libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev.  The first has the libraries, the second includes the header files.
[06:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone have any idea about my isshue?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: well, i just have multiverse, universe, main etc
[06:39] <CarinArr> tritium, thanks.. i know how to compile things though, just wondering why synaptic keeps giving me errors;)
[06:39] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: maybe yet another backports issue?
[06:39] <CarinArr> maybe
[06:39] <CarinArr> i'll just compile it
[06:39] <tritium> plagueports
[06:40] <CarinArr> thought i would do things the neat way and try to stick to packages
[06:40] <Jowi> CarinArr, start with 1.0.5 first. if you need to update to a later one this one is what you need first of all...
[06:40] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: TBH I would comment backports out and update
[06:40] <Jowi> learned that the hard way :-)
[06:41] <phinnaeus> what is the best guide for samba server?
[06:41] <trauma> weird, but I get all the imlib packages installed with synaptic
[06:41] <trauma> sure it's not a repository problem?
[06:41] <trauma> it's my only guess
[06:41] <CarinArr> thanks Jowi, thoreauputic i think i migth have already commented them out cause i was thinking they might be causing it
[06:41] <jcoxon> are the repositorys down? i'm not able to download right now any ideas?
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i restore this file : esd.conf_backup to esd.conf?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> CarinArr: just checked here and i have libimlib2 installed so... no problems on this system
[06:42] <CarinArr> yeah i'd already removed the backports
[06:42] <cmatheson> ChurcH_of_FoamY: 'mv esd.conf_backup esd.conf'
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k
[06:42] <tritium> (don't forget to use sudo)
[06:43] <thoreauputic> tritium: beat me to it :)
[06:43] <tritium> thoreauputic, :)
[06:43] <CarinArr> jcoxon, i can't access any but us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:44] <jcoxon> CarinArr, hmmm i'm trying archive.ubuntu.com
[06:44] <jcoxon> CarinArr, still nothing
[06:44] <CarinArr> jcoxon, i can't do archive.ubuntu.com either.. but us. works for some reason
[06:44] <jcoxon> CarinArr, different locatiosn
[06:44] <CarinArr> yeah
[06:45] <jcoxon> stating the obvious but i guess us is in the usa :p
[06:45] <CarinArr> heh yeah i guessed that much
[06:45] <tombs> hi ppl
[06:45] <jcoxon> not sure where the main one is, uk?
[06:46] <_maydayjay_> CarinArr - I just took the us.  off of archives in my sources.list to resolve an XFCE install problem and it worked without issue.
[06:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to compile a program and it says that i need some sorta perl for intell? then something about an xml error too any ideas guys/gals?
[06:46] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what error exactly?
[06:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hold on phone
[06:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[06:47] <SDFH_Linux> guys trying to put the ndiswrappers
[06:47] <SDFH_Linux> i do the steps and when i go to modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:47] <SDFH_Linux> it says operation not permitted
[06:47] <SDFH_Linux> what am i doing wrong?
[06:48] <trauma> SDFH_Linux : use sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> can ubuntu livecd be loaded toram?
[06:48] <SDFH_Linux> tried that no dice
[06:48] <tritium> AndyR, no advertisements, please.  Thanks
[06:48] <slask3n> are there any map-applications to linux? similar to AutoRoute maybe?
[06:48] <SDFH_Linux> says erro inserting ndiswrapper
[06:49] <tritium> slask3n, routeplanner and routeplanner-gnome
[06:49] <SDFH_Linux> then it lists the /lib/modules/ etc then operation not permitted
[06:49] <SDFH_Linux> any ideas?
[06:49] <slask3n> k
[06:49] <trauma> SDFH_Linux : not much experience, but then it's probably an ndiswrapper malconfig
[06:49] <Tuxist> hi
[06:49] <tritium> slask3n, (apt-cache search map | grep route)
[06:49] <SDFH_Linux> what i do then trauma?
[06:49] <luzbelito> hi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu.
[06:50] <tritium> Erealz, download the liveCD, and find out for yourself without having to install ;)
[06:50] <Tuxist> i have problems to compile amarok cvs version
[06:50] <_maydayjay_> SDFH_Linux - try 'sudo su' and then work through the commands... sudo should work fine though.
[06:50] <trauma> SDFH_Linux : check if your driver corresponds with the hardware -> ndiswrapper -l
[06:50] <SDFH_Linux> k
[06:50] <tritium> sudo -i works nicely
[06:50] <CarinArr> _maydayjay_, thanks, i'll do that as soon as the other archives seem accessible from here
[06:51] <Tuxist> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[06:52] <SDFH_Linux> says the same thing
[06:52] <SDFH_Linux> operation not permitted
[06:52] <cmatheson> Tuxist: you need to install the gl-dev libs
[06:53] <Tuxist> thank you
[06:53] <MrMaDSeN> anyone know a similar app like navstudio 2005 for linux?
[06:53] <SDFH_Linux> no matter what i do modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:53] <SDFH_Linux> not working
[06:53] <jasoncohen> !stats
[06:54] <jasoncohen> does ubotu have info on the # of packages in hoary main?
[06:54] <luzbelito> hi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu.
[06:54] <trauma> SDFH_Linux : try removing the driver and then renstall it
[06:55] <trauma> SDFH_Linux : or try following the instructions from here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[06:55] <SDFH_Linux> k
[06:55] <luzbelito> hi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???
[06:55] <tritium> luzbelito, please don't repeat
[06:55] <luzbelito> sorry me
[06:55] <luzbelito> tritum
[06:55] <tritium> no problem :)
[06:56] <Aerebus> I'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?
[06:57] <tritium> luzbelito, you might look at the result from "apt-cache search dvd | grep rip"
[06:57] <Tuxist> your smb.conf ?
[06:58] <tritium> luzbelito, I hope you've got the multiverse repo in your sources.list
[06:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> trauma your never gonna beleve this........
[06:58] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what?
[06:58] <luzbelito> tritium: yes i do. but i dont know wich program use. pls help
[06:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  a customer called and wanted to know why his computer diden't boot nor look like windows xp
[06:58] <jee> where can i change default applications for certain filetypes?
[06:59] <tritium> luzbelito, I've never tried it.  Please see my message regarding apt-cache search above...
[06:59] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and?
[06:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i just spent the last 10 minutes explaning to him that it was LINUX not xp....
[06:59] <luzbelito> tritum: wich msg ???
[06:59] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: oh my god.
[06:59] <tritium> luzbelito, you might look at the result from "apt-cache search dvd | grep rip"
[06:59] <just_in> Is it normal on a laptop running acpi for the kacpid daemon to rev up to 40% CPU usage and stay there?
[06:59] <luzbelito> oh its ok
[06:59] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: never heard something as crazy as this
[06:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and he asked what's linux >.< so i had to explane to him what linux was >.<
[07:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> he thought m$ was the only manufacturer of os's out there >.<
[07:00] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so that guy is probably a master in linux without even knowing it
[07:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> must be lol
[07:00] <tritium> aw, be nice
[07:00] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: great story
[07:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> trauma have the error for you in a sec
[07:00] <trauma> k
[07:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there ya go
[07:01] <H0lyD4wg> How does one get midi playback in Ubuntu? I've STFW'ed and tried some things but none of them worked so I'm not going to touch midi again before I get some guidance.
[07:01] <trauma> thx checking it out
[07:02] <cmatheson> H0lyD4wg: i haven't played a stinkin' midi in *forever*, but timidity was way rad a few years ago.. it's probably still kickin'
[07:02] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: try installing timidity and freepats
[07:03] <ralc> hmm i screwed up the ipw2200 default drivers from ubuntu install, how do i get the drivers back?
[07:03] <jasoncohen> !hoary stats
[07:03] <ubotu> jasoncohen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:04] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, i got timidity and freepats installed on the other machine. "timidity foo.mid" plays, but playmidi, pmimi, kmid, rosegarden etc. don't give any midi output.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: yeah, you need jack/jackd and a lot of patience :/
[07:05] <Aerebus> lol
[07:06] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, assuming i got some patience, what should i read?
[07:06] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: looking now - hang on
[07:07] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: this might be a start >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:07] <jcoxon> is it possible if someone can check if they can apt-get update
[07:07] <jcoxon> cause i'm still struggling with archive.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: try to install the parser package manually, download here: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MS/MSERGEANT/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz
[07:08] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: maybe that works
[07:08] <ubuntu> hallo
[07:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:08] <ubuntu> hi i try now the ubunt
[07:08] <tritium> trauma, eww, no...install libxml-parser-perl package
[07:08] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, don't soundblaster-compatible soundcards support hardware midi?
[07:08] <cary> general question: is it possible to emulate a windows operating system in linux. more specifically, emulating windows with PPC architecture?
[07:08] <ubuntu> i would like to ask if u know how to know the root password
[07:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok now i'm confused
[07:09] <trauma> tritium : apt-get you mean? found the info above on a forum
[07:09] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: for a nicer GUI frontend to timidity install timidity-interfaces-extra and call timidity as "timidity -ig "
[07:09] <levander> There is any way to mount a samba share on demand?  So that I don't have to manually remount them every time I reboot my XP box?
[07:09] <tritium> trauma, yes, using apt-get or aptitude, or synaptic
[07:09] <jcoxon> ubuntu, there isn't one
[07:09] <pc> hi. i cant delete files via nautilus anymore (error). rm still works. anyone has a clue?
[07:09] <jcoxon> ubuntu, you use sudo and you're user password
[07:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok so do i download that pacakge or get it somewhere else?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: yes, if you have a card that supports hardware midi life is easier
[07:09] <tritium> levander, yes, that's explained on the unofficial guide
[07:09] <trauma> tritium : thx didn't know the package name
[07:09] <tritium> trauma, apt-cache search is your friend
[07:09] <ubuntu> ok, jcoxon i will try with usdo
[07:09] <levander> pc: check free space on your disk, nautilus doesn't delete files, it moves them to trash can
[07:09] <ubuntu> sudo
[07:10] <ubuntu> excuse me
[07:10] <trauma> tritium : I'll remember
[07:10] <tritium> :)
[07:10] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I suggest to try the apt-get first
[07:10] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, easier how? what are the step that i should do differently?
[07:10] <just_in> isn't it sudo passwd root to create root in ubuntu?
[07:10] <pc> levander: hm was a good idea. 450M free though, should do it
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok whats the command?
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like what am i looking for?
[07:10] <levander> pc: how much you have in trash now?
[07:10] <tritium> just_in, root account exists, but is disabled.  It doens't create the account, but rather enables it.
[07:10] <pc> levander: 0
[07:10] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: I have a crappy onboard card so i only know about soft synth etc, sorry
[07:11] <levander> pc: what's the error message when you try to delete?
[07:11] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl package (I guess)
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thanx ^_^
[07:11] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, alright, do you know who should i ask about hardware midi?
[07:11] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: from memory you can install a sound font and use it directly without soft synth
[07:11] <tritium> ChurcH_of_FoamY, I found that package via "apt-cache search perl | grep parser"
[07:11] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no problem, but not totally sure of the command
[07:12] <ubuntu> sudo execute root commands !!!
[07:12] <levander> tritium: where on the unofficial guide? it's not under samba server
[07:12] <pc> levander: well translated its something like: not on same filesystem while deleting "/home/pc/blah.gif" Continue? (skip,cancel,again)
[07:12] <ubuntu> uau!
[07:12] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: try  the alsa home page - I think there's info on midi there
[07:12] <trauma> tritium : I really need to get better with 'grep' commands
[07:12] <trauma> tritium : sounds usefull
[07:12] <pc> levander: oh and skip or again does nothing. errormessage still shows
[07:13] <tritium> trauma, absolutely ;)
[07:13] <H0lyD4wg> thoreauputic, thanks, i will
[07:13] <cary> thoreauputic, hey. been a while since i have been in here. hows it going
[07:13] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yeehaa
[07:14] <levander> pc: i'm looking at preferences that can be set for nautilus
[07:14] <phinnaeus> whoa how didyou do that churcH_of FoamY
[07:14] <tritium> levander, sorry, you're right.
[07:14] <levander> pc: you do have that partition mounted with write permissions yes?  maybe try deleting a file on another partition
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> phinnaeus put a /me infron of what ever your gonna say
[07:14] <pc> levander: the only things i could think of are users (not too smart) and automatic apt-get update and dist-upgrade
[07:14] <thoreauputic> H0lyD4wg: http://linux-sound.org/  << lots of info here
[07:14] <luzbelito> hi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???
[07:14] <pc> levander: home is on the / partition. i'll try another though
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> $hit more errors >.<
[07:14] <phinnaeus> hahahah awesojme
[07:14] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what errors?
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> getting them now
[07:14] <levander> pc: if you can delete a file with rm on the same partition, that's not it actually...
[07:15] <pc> levander: what do you mean, that's not it?
[07:15] <pc> levander: oh permissions you mean. yeah you're right
[07:15] <pc> levander: it's just one of those things that always worked and for some reason not anymore now..
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/311342 is the error that poped up
[07:16] <pc> levander: interesting. deleting something from hda2 does work without errors
[07:16] <trauma> k
[07:16] <djp> in the universe repos, i have come across 2 sound editors, gnusound and audacity. audacity i have heard of, but was wondering whether it was the better of the two or whether gnusound was preferred by anyone here. i basically want a program for voice recording under hoary.
[07:16] <levander> pc: yeah, i know what you mean, i'm trying to find that gconf program I think it was called that lets you view a bunch of preferences you can set.  Can't find it.
[07:16] <tritium> levander, Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[07:17] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: think you need to install the latest versions of gtk + , gconf, libgnomeui ...
[07:17] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: use synaptic
[07:17] <rift-wrk> Anyone know of a CLI based disk throughput utility?
[07:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:17] <pc> gconf-editor?
[07:17] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and don't forget the dev packages (helps for me)
[07:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:17] <ralc> hmm i screwed up the ipw2200 default drivers from ubuntu install, how do i get the drivers back?
[07:17] <pc> levander: i never remember the name either. just type gconf and TAB :)
[07:17] <gangalino> what version of Python should be installed for Hoary?
[07:18] <pc> ralc: how'd you "screw a driver up"?
[07:18] <tritium> gangalino, 2.4
[07:18] <HappyFool> gangalino: 2.4, i believe
[07:18] <ralc> pc, like deleting a bunch of the module files i believe
[07:18] <gangalino> I have 2.3.4 how do I upgrade apt-get upgrade python?
[07:18] <ubuntu> tnak u for ur comments  "jcoxon", it works
[07:19] <levander> pc: i can't find anything, i'd just try googling your exact error message, all in quotes.  But, you've have to leave out anything machine specific.  Like hdd, a partition name.  You tried google.com/linux also?
[07:19] <pc> ralc: always make... :P anyway i think you could just insert the cd and copy the modules to /lib/modules/something
[07:19] <jcoxon> ubuntu, np
[07:19] <pc> levander: i translated the error, it's probably wrong :) if i know the original i
[07:19] <pc> levander: i'd search for it too
[07:19] <ubuntu> i am going to study now, see u later...
[07:19] <HappyFool> gangalino: that should be taken care of when you install hoary
[07:20] <ralc> pc, thanks ill try :)
[07:20] <HappyFool> gangalino: are you running hoary currently?
[07:20] <tritium> gangalino, ubuntu-desktop depends on python2.4.  How can you not have it?
[07:20] <gangalino> HappyFool: it hasn't, I'm running Hoary now. It was an upgrade from Warty
[07:20] <selinium> Hi all, can you have both x86 and amd64 versions available at boot-up?
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> ~/.fullcircle
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> anyone have that
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> as a directory
[07:20] <pc> selinium: kernel yeah, software? hmm...
[07:20] <ReDRooT> turkce bilen biri varsa acele yardma ihtiyacm var
[07:20] <rift-wrk> Anyone know of a CLI based disk throughput utility?  I am looking for something like iptraf or similiar or gkrellm for command line to show disk activity.
[07:20] <gangalino> HappyFool and tritium: check #flood
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> you could have 2 seperate installs.... but thats a little over kill
[07:21] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: yes, mostly to do with firefox/mozilla IIRC
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  so leave it?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> I leave mine
[07:21] <selinium> pc How would you go about it? as it would not be an upgrade as such?
[07:21] <gangalino> It is a little strange
[07:21] <pc> rift-wrk: find out what gkrellm uses i think
[07:22] <pc> selinium: what do you have now?
[07:22] <HappyFool> gangalino: hrm. how did you upgrade?
[07:22] <emrawkweasel> !xchat
[07:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, xchat is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/
[07:22] <GigaClon> I've installed all of the lua packages but my program still can't find the .so file
[07:22] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: I think it is version info for firefox upgrades etc
[07:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> aww screw it i'll just change my bacground normally
[07:22] <selinium> pc: i will have hoary, I am about to wipe this machine.
[07:22] <msieradzki> yeah, updated to breezy :)
[07:22] <dema> salve
[07:22] <msieradzki> i have found 4 bugs
[07:23] <msieradzki> one "critical"
[07:23] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not working?
[07:23] <dema> helo
[07:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no just not worth it
[07:23] <pc> selinium: but x86 or amd64?
[07:23] <Tuxist> have a problem to install gl-dev its only virtual package when i want to install the packages, they want to remove nessesary packeges xsystem-core etc
[07:23] <dema> who ca help me?
[07:23] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: your choice, too bad
[07:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why?
[07:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to bad?
[07:23] <selinium> pc: sorry! DOH! x86 :)
[07:23] <dema> someone can help me?
[07:23] <tritium> dema, just ask your question.
[07:24] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I just mean it's a pity the errors didn't worked out
[07:24] <Tuxist> yes
[07:24] <pc> selinium: np. ok then you could probably just apt-get the amd64 kernel but i doubt it would do you much good
[07:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[07:24] <dema> i never use linux
[07:24] <pc> selinium: if you really want both, i think you should use 2 separate installs...
[07:24] <dema> and i installed ubuntu
[07:24] <charly> i want to know is there any temperary internet file folder in ubantu, like that in windows
[07:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just want to auto change my wallpaper without having to worry about kde being involved
[07:24] <GigaClon> !wiki
[07:24] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what package exactly is it you want to install?
[07:24] <selinium> pc: Give them seperate partitions?
[07:24] <dema> but i don't know what i have to do for installing other programms
[07:25] <pc> levander: it's an error from gnome-vfs. rings any bells?
[07:25] <HappyFool> charly: not exactly. i think you can browse 'about:cache' in firefox to view the cache -- or at least, some of it
[07:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mybackground-properties-0.0.1
[07:25] <GigaClon> dema: System, Admin, Synaptic
[07:25] <HappyFool> dema: you can use a program called synaptic to install extra software
[07:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's supposed to auto change the bacground
[07:25] <pc> selinium: yes 2 complete different installs. only the kernel won't give much of an advantage i think. but then again, you'll have 2 installs...
[07:25] <GigaClon> System --> Admin --> Synaptic Package manager
[07:25] <HappyFool> dema: there's lots of information on the ubuntu wiki about this
[07:25] <HappyFool> !apt
[07:25] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:25] <HappyFool> !repositories
[07:25] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:25] <HappyFool> !synaptic
[07:25] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:25] <selinium> pc: thanks for the pointers! I am off to wipe my hd :)
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> rm -rf ~/.distcc/ ~/.ed2k_gui/ ~/.gentoo/ ~/.giFT ~/.gkrellm2/ ~/.gimp-2.0/ ~/.gMUDix/ ~/.gnome-mud/ ~/.gpilotd ~/.gstreamer-0.7/ ~/.gtk-gnutella.* ~/.jpi_cache/ ~/.legacy/ ~/.links/ ~/.mcop/ ~/.mmaker/menu-XFdesktop4 ~/.overnet/ ~/.porthole/ ~/.phoenix ~/.qt/ ~/.subversion/ ~/.xpde/
[07:26] <dema> ok thank you
[07:26] <HappyFool> dema: you can start at those three web pages -- should give you an idea
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> anyone see anything crucial?
[07:26] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: can't find anything of it on google. I guess it's not well maintained
[07:26] <luzbelito> hi, can anyone help me to copy play2 dvd under Ubuntu???
[07:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  well that answers alot of questions ^_^ lol
[07:26] <pc> selinium: k, good luck
[07:26] <trauma> ChurcH_of_FoamY: small chance that a 0.01 would work out well
[07:26] <tritium> luzbelito, did you do the search I told you, and then try one of those programs?
[07:26] <Tuxist> i need this gl-dev to compile amarok
[07:26] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: why the hell are you doing this crazy thing?
[07:27] <luzbelito> yes tritium
[07:27] <luzbelito> but wich program i must choose ?
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  spring cleaning after 10 distros and 500 reinstalls
[07:27] <luzbelito> root@lenin:/ # apt-cache search dvd | grep rip
[07:27] <luzbelito> drip - GNOME application for encoding a DivX from a DVD
[07:27] <luzbelito> dvdbackup - Tool to rip DVD's from the command line
[07:27] <luzbelito> acidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder
[07:27] <luzbelito> dvdrip - perl front end for transcode
[07:27] <luzbelito> dvdrip-doc - Documentation for dvd::rip
[07:27] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: you are wiping out all your personal config
[07:27] <luzbelito> ksubtitleripper - GUI for KDE to rip DVD subtitles
[07:27] <luzbelito> ripmake - an automatic command line ripping makefile generator for transcode
[07:27] <luzbelito> subtitleripper - DVD Subtitle Ripper for Linux
[07:27] <luzbelito> video-dvdrip-doc - Documentation for dvd::rip - dummy package
[07:27] <luzbelito> opppps
[07:27] <HappyFool> luzbelito: c'mon, please don't spam
[07:27] <luzbelito> sorrryyyy
[07:27] <luzbelito> :-(
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  no, I have a lot of other shit.  I have gstreamer 0.8 and gimp 2.2 now, but I have old config for gstreamer 0.7 and gimp 2.0
[07:27] <thoreauputic> luzbelito:  read the /topic for heaven's sake
[07:27] <luzbelito> sorry me please
[07:27] <gangalino> HappyFool: I used the instructions from ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21916.html
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  apps I don't have anymore because they were shit :)
[07:28] <luzbelito> i dont wanna paste it here
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  and backups of my config files that I no longer need.
[07:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know a good way to start scripting?
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  and some shit I don't use that somehow got there :>
[07:28] <tritium> luzbelito, you've got to choose one based on what you want to do.  Your question is cryptic.  what is play2?
[07:28] <Tuxist>  :-(
[07:28] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: OK - well I guess you know what you are doing then, sorry
[07:28] <charly> ok,one more thing i want to know please tell i how can download a flash presentation from a website like a pdf document
[07:28] <luzbelito> play2 = playstation 2 games
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  well some of it I dunno what it is, like ~/.legacy or jpi-cache
[07:29] <luzbelito> they are encoded. you cant copy with normal programs. in windows you can use dvd shrink
[07:29] <luzbelito> i don know in linux
[07:29] <Tuxist> qdvdripper
[07:29] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: why not back up instead of deleting, then you can see which ones you need
[07:29] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  *shrug* :o  heh
[07:30] <Aerebus> I'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?
[07:30] <tritium> luzbelito, you might try dvdbackup
[07:30] <rift-wrk> hey pc
[07:30] <rift-wrk> don't they have some sort of cli thing for gtk and gtk+
[07:30] <luzbelito> ok wait me
[07:30] <rift-wrk> i remeber seeing that in the past just not sure what it is called
[07:30] <HappyFool> gangalino: are you a regular vi user?
[07:30] <luzbelito> thanks
[07:30] <rift-wrk> maybe I can use that with gkrellm for it
[07:31] <HappyFool> gangalino: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood?
[07:31] <HappyFool> Tuxist: what is the exact package you want to install?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: in other window managers you could write a simple script that changed your background every 2 minutes or whatever - gnome is ...erm.... special. So is KDE I guess
[07:31] <Tuxist> amarok
[07:32] <gangalino> HappyFool: OK
[07:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[07:32] <Tuxist> i want to compile it from cvs
[07:32] <tritium> Tuxist, why not install it then?
[07:32] <Tuxist> amarok 1.3
[07:32] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i meant, the libgl one
[07:32] <Tuxist> when i tried to install them
[07:32] <HappyFool> Tuxist: you could try 'apt-get build-dep amarok'
[07:32] <Tuxist> recent package want to remove
[07:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn is there an alternative to useing KDE i want to do this in gnome
[07:32] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I bet someone has written one - have you googled for it?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I thought gnome and kde both had a 'change the wallpaper every so often' feature built in.
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea nothin that i can find
[07:33] <HappyFool> Tuxist: please tell me the name of the dev package
[07:33] <Tuxist> libgl-dev
[07:33] <Tuxist> is virtual package
[07:33] <luzbelito> tritum: could you pls send me a private msg for help me in dvdbackup? thanks
[07:33] <dema> ok..if i want a program that i have just download
[07:33] <dema> ed
[07:33] <dema> for example
[07:34] <dema> i downloaded amule
[07:34] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: first hit on google: http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ubuntu.html
[07:34] <dema> and now i have a folder on desktop
[07:34] <thoreauputic> a script for random changes of wallpaper
[07:34] <HappyFool> Tuxist: what does 'apt-cache show libgl-dev|grep ^Section' say ?
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my google must be dumb then >.< or me
[07:34] <tritium> luzbelito, sorry, I've never used it.  Try installing it and reading the manpage and documentation.
[07:34] <Tuxist> i type apt-get build-dep amarok
[07:35] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=linux+gnome+wallpaper+changer+script&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[07:35] <Tuxist> i hope it run now
[07:35] <dema> what can i do to install?
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:35] <charly> HappyFool: i want to know how can i download a flash presentation in the website to my home folder like downloading a PDF file.
[07:35] <HappyFool> Tuxist: my apt-cache search does not find a 'libgl-dev'
[07:35] <Tuxist> yes
[07:35] <HappyFool> charly: i don't know, sorry.
[07:35] <gm78> Hey all. I just broke my last keyboard, so i pulled an old logitech keyboard out of the closet. it has a lot of things like volume control, but they dont work in gnome. is there anyway i can make these kinds of things work in gnome?
[07:36] <HappyFool> charly: try 'View source' and use wget on the url -- bit hacky, but the best I can think of
[07:36] <Tuxist> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[07:36] <Tuxist> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[07:36] <Tuxist> Pakete libgl-dev ist ein virtuelles Pakete, das bereitgestellt wird von:
[07:36] <Tuxist>   mesag3+ggi-dev 5.0.0-5.1
[07:36] <Tuxist>   mesag-glide2-dev 5.0.0-5.1
[07:36] <Tuxist>   mesag-dev 5.0.0-5.1
[07:36] <Tuxist>   xlibmesa-gl-dev 6.8.2-10
[07:36] <Tuxist> Sie sollten eines explizit zum Installieren auswhlen.
[07:36] <Tuxist> E: Paket libgl-dev hat keinen Installationskandidaten
[07:36] <Tuxist> root@work2:/home/jan #
[07:36] <tritium> Tuxist, don't paste
[07:36] <sobersabre> trying to install ubuntu with serial keyboard. it locks up.
[07:36] <Tuxist> ok
[07:36] <HappyFool> hm. does apt-cache not show virtual packages?
[07:36] <HappyFool> it shows all the linux-related ones
[07:37] <sobersabre> what shall write on the CD boot prompt ?
[07:37] <Tuxist> i have the same problem
[07:37] <charly> if u found anything that is working inform me through mail
[07:37] <paines> hi
[07:37] <tritium> HappyFool, it shows all of them
[07:37] <HappyFool> tritium: i thought as much
[07:37] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hint: use linux+gnome+keywords or linux+KDE+ keywords etc
[07:37] <Tuxist> have already compile amarok cvs version in this chat
[07:37] <paines> anyone know if there are pho5 packages for ubuntu
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ohhh ok thanx
[07:38] <paines> pho5=php5
[07:38] <tritium> now that you said pho, I'm hungry for noodle soup ;)
[07:38] <gangalino> HappyFool: it's there in #flood
[07:39] <Hanna_> and i need some coffee.
[07:39] <sobersabre> hmmm anybody... heeeelp/
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> will this work for my gnome? Gnome 1.4.
[07:39] <Tuxist> ok i send you some coffee.
[07:39] <sobersabre> cannot install ubuntu!
[07:39] <Tuxist> cmail
[07:39] <sobersabre> serial keyboard
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hint i have no idea what my gonme is >.<
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: gnome 1.4 is ancient history
[07:40] <Hanna_> secure coffee protocol.
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have a curent ubuntu install whats the version of gnome?
[07:40] <sobersabre> Hanna_, it is salty coffee protocol.
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: 2.10
[07:40] <Tuxist> i register scp by sf.net now
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk thanx
[07:40] <tritium> ChurcH_of_FoamY, go to "System->About Gnome" ;)
[07:40] <steffen> hi, has anybody installed klibido, the usenet binarie downloader under ubuntu?
[07:41] <Hieronymus> !info gnome
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok sweet
[07:41] <ubotu> gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 62ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[07:41] <Sonderblade> why does ubuntu insist on using stupid -dev packages?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Sonderblade,  cant say thta ive ever noticed it insisting on that.
[07:41] <tritium> Sonderblade, because not everybody needs header files
[07:41] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: erm... dev packages are needed for compiling
[07:41] <Aerebus> I'm having networking problems in Ubuntu, when i select Places > Network Servers i usually can see my windows network fine, but when i click on that icon, to view the computers/workgroup, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, can someone help me fix this plz?
[07:41] <Sonderblade> -dev packages makes it painful to manually install stuff
[07:42] <tritium> Sonderblade, why would you say that?
[07:42] <husher> Aerbus: what's your windows network look like?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: you shouldn't need to manually install stuff, and I suggest you look into the apt-get build-dep command if you must
[07:42] <nalioth> Sonderblade: -dev pkgs allow other programs to be compiled to use features of hte program with the -dev pkgs
[07:42] <Aerebus> husher, what do you mean?
[07:43] <nalioth> Aerebus: describe the windows machines on your network
[07:43] <husher> Aerebus: like, is it a 2000 server with a domain, or just a workgroup, or what
[07:43] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, sometimes that's not possible
[07:43] <Aerebus> i have 2 windows machines on the network along with thix unbuntu box, both windows machines are win xp pro
[07:43] <husher> Aerebus: where does dns come from? are you running wins?
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how the hel do you run a perl script?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> time to read some perl tutorials.
[07:44] <Tuxist> can anybody in this chat compile amarok cvs and send me .deb ;-)
[07:44] <husher> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ./'script'
[07:44] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: well, if you are compiling you need to read the apt howto and see how apt can make your life easier for dev packages
[07:44] <Aerebus> husher, everything is networked thru a  router, ....1.2 ....1.3 etc
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> :P that will be in chapter 1. First line of a perl script should be #!/usr/bin/perl   then you can chmod +x it. and run it as any other prog.
[07:44] <yahalom> i'm trying to apt-get install xfce4 and i keep getting this error: saying i need to try --fix-missing but it doesnt fix it. i cant download it.
[07:44] <yahalom> any ideas?
[07:44] <husher> Aerebus: static ips?
[07:44] <Tuxist> apt-get -f install
[07:44] <nalioth> Tuxist: be careful of waht you ask for, you may get a amarok for a PPC G5
[07:45] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, but i thought ubuntu was user friendly
[07:45] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: chmod +x <script> ; ./scriptname
[07:45] <husher> anybody here get sounds to work in x-chat?  i can't seem to.
[07:45] <Tuxist> no x86
[07:45] <yahalom> Tuxist, still not
[07:45] <Aerebus> husher, i believe so my isp has a static ip and i have ips set to manual, non dhcp
[07:45] <nalioth> yahalom: are u using us.archive.ubuntu in your sources.list?
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: it is - compiling isn't something most users need to do
[07:45] <Panzerboy> any idea how can i replace postfix in my system with esmtp?
[07:45] <nalioth> Sonderblade: ubuntu is user friendly, but it is still *nix
[07:45] <Tuxist> my 4 p3 rocks
[07:45] <Panzerboy> i don't need a full featured mta
[07:45] <sobersabre> can sombody help: need to install ubuntu over serial keyboard ... is there something i need to pass to the kernel ?
[07:46] <Panzerboy> just a small mta to use mutt
[07:46] <yahalom> nalioth, yes
[07:46] <husher> Aerebus: then try adding the ip addresses of the other 2 machines in your linux boxen's /etc/hosts file
[07:46] <nalioth> yahalom: see what Tuxist said above
[07:46] <Panzerboy> right now when i try to install esmtp-run apt-get wants to remove ubuntu-base
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: usually we find people compiling things that are already available anyway, but they haven't looked in the right places
[07:46] <Panzerboy> and i'm not sure this is good :)
[07:46] <yahalom> nalioth, i did it. nothing.
[07:46] <Panzerboy> so ... any ideas ? :D
[07:46] <DanielHolth> Hello ubuntuites. I'm trying to install firefox extensions, so I upgraded to one called 'firefox' instead of 'mozilla-firefox', version reports 1.0.4 in about, and I did the workaround. Still, it complains things like FeedView are not valid packages.
[07:46] <nalioth> yahalom: you ran from a terminal "sudo apt-get -f install" and nothing happened??
[07:47] <yahalom> Tuxist, that repo has no x86?
[07:47] <Aerebus> husher, whats the files name? can i gedit /etc/file ?
[07:47] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, you shouldn't need to look in the right places
[07:47] <Tuxist> i know
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: what are you trying to compile?
[07:47] <yahalom> nalioth, it just says 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
[07:47] <yahalom> nalioth, u can figure out what that means right ?;)
[07:47] <husher> Aerebus: the file is named /etc/hosts, and yes, you can, as root (or 'sudo gedit /etc/hosts'), but i reccomend reading the man page first
[07:48] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, anjuta
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Couldn't open /home/shane/backs.txt at ./randomback2.pl line 60. >.<
[07:48] <Tuxist>  g5 = power4 cpu ;-)
[07:48] <nalioth> yahalom: so now do a "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: and that's a silly statement - even in Windows you have to know where to look
[07:48] <Tuxist> p4 is a cool cpu
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: anjuta is avsailable in synaptic
[07:48] <DanielHolth> Oh nevermind firefox started working again.
[07:48] <tritium> Sonderblade, you should need to know what you're doing.  That IS a silly statement.
[07:48] <DanielHolth> Feedview is good.
[07:48] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, messing with your hosts file can shut you down quickly
[07:48] <pw2subz> hi, how can i start 3ddesktop?
[07:48] <DanielHolth> and "I must not fear" an essential extension.
[07:48] <yahalom> nalioth, still no. it says the same thign again: --fix-missing
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> DanielHolth,  I like that "Stumbler" add on.
[07:49] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, i know but not the latest version
[07:49] <yahalom> Tuxist, what is wrong with us.archive?
[07:49] <Aerebus> husher, may i pm you oly for a sec?
[07:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth so was there any damage done?
[07:49] <Aerebus> only*
[07:49] <nalioth> yahalom: have you looked at "man apt-get"?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: if you are using anjuta I wpuld think you would know how to compile in Linux, no?
[07:49] <husher> Aerebus: sure
[07:50] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: idk, did you edit your /etc/hosts w/o any idea what you were doing?
[07:50] <yahalom> nalioth, man i know how to use apt-get.
[07:50] <Tuxist> what you want from me
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: it *is* a development app, is it not?
[07:50] <nalioth> yahalom: well, have you --fixed-missing?
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth diden't touch that file to my knowledge
[07:50] <Sonderblade> thoreauputic, i know how to compile, it is just that in some distros you don't have to go through the pains of -dev packages to do it
[07:51] <yahalom> nalioth, man. look i typed sudo apt-get install --fix-missing that right, no? it doesnt do anything. it says nothing new installed blahbblah blah
[07:51] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: good, because your hosts file can be a very powerful friend, if used correctly
[07:51] <tritium> Sonderblade, sure you do.  All distributions have packages that contain development libraries and header files.
[07:51] <abbot45> im getting an error all of the sudden when i try to run iPodder.  "/usr/bin/iPodder: line 4: 30266 Segmentation fault      python iPodderGui.py"
[07:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth cool i want it to be my freind i also want random wallpaper changes
[07:52] <Tuxist> i want to get the new amarok
[07:52] <yahalom> Tuxist, ???
[07:52] <Tuxist> yes
[07:52] <steffen> hi, one question how can i make kdm as the default logon screen?
[07:52] <nalioth> yahalom: "sudo apt-get --fix-missing xfce4"
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Sonderblade: that's why I mentioned apt-get build-dep. There is also auto-apt and a whole lot of other goodies you haven't learnt about, apparently - apt-get install apt-howto would be a good start :)
[07:52] <Tuxist> dpkg-reconfigure
[07:52] <flexs[prog] > hello...
[07:52] <Sonderblade> tritium, gentoo doesnt
[07:52] <tritium> steffen, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm", and choose kdm as the default
[07:52] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have you gotten to the "ranwp.sh" yet?
[07:52] <husher> nalioth: i'm helping Aerebus with his /etc/hosts file, if that's what you're thinking
[07:52] <tritium> Sonderblade, sure it does
[07:52] <Panzerboy> lol
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth um no don't remember that i was supposed to
[07:52] <nalioth> husher: well, ChurcH_of_FoamY was hollering somethin about hosts, too
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[07:52] <Panzerboy> WHAT is this ubuntu-base package after all?
[07:53] <steffen> * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                            [fail] 
[07:53] <Panzerboy> dpgk -L ubuntu-base only shows a bunch of files in /usr/share/doc
[07:53] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: google the following "ranwp.sh gnome"
[07:53] <steffen> this is the message
[07:53] <tritium> Panzerboy, apt-cache show ubuntu-base
[07:53] <husher> nalioth: ok
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:53] <flexs[prog] > can i install on ubuntu web server (Apache+PHP+MySQL)
[07:53] <Panzerboy> namely 2: copyright and changelog.gz
[07:53] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : surely
[07:53] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : wiki.ubuntu.com//NewUserGuide
[07:54] <yahalom> nalioth, ok i take it back i dont know how to use apt-get. thanx for ur patience. going to read man apt now.
[07:54] <abbot45> im getting an error all of the sudden when i try to run iPodder.  "/usr/bin/iPodder: line 4: 30266 Segmentation fault      python iPodderGui.py."  Whats going on?
[07:54] <Panzerboy> hmm
[07:54] <Panzerboy> so is it SAFE to remove it in order to install esmtp ?
[07:54] <tritium> Panzerboy, did you read what I suggested?  yes, it's safe.  It's just a metapackage.
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth ok i found this page http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=69
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is this what i want to work wioth
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with
[07:55] <Panzerboy> tritium: i read it, i just wanted to be sure
[07:55] <luzbelito> can anyone help me with dvd rip? it says next error: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so", at /usr/share/perl5/Video/DVDRip/GUI/Main.pm line 49
[07:55] <Panzerboy> tritium: i don't want to fuck up mu box
[07:55] <tritium> Panzerboy, just heed the warning, particularly when you go to upgrade to breezy
[07:55] <Panzerboy> i understand
[07:55] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, you can read about it, d/l it, and use it if you wish
[07:55] <steffen> tritium, you german?
[07:55] <Panzerboy> tritium: thanks a lot
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oooh ok
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[07:55] <tritium> Panzerboy, sure.  When you go to upgrade to breezy, you'll want ubuntu-base installled again.
[07:55] <Panzerboy> tritium: when I will upgrade to breezy, i will install it again :)
[07:55] <tritium> steffen, no, why?
[07:55] <nalioth> Panzerboy: as long as you have all your metapkgs 'installed' when you up to breezy, you'll be fine
[07:55] <tritium> Panzerboy, :)
[07:55] <Panzerboy> tritium: :)
[07:56] <Tuxist> :----;
[07:56] <Panzerboy> nalioth: i'll write it down somewhere that I need to re-install ubuntu-base when I will upgrade ! :)
[07:56] <gangalino> HappyFool: did you notice anything strange?
[07:56] <steffen> tritium: i think about your irc profile, my fault ^^, but i doenst work when i started dpkg-rek...
[07:57] <steffen> tritium: it says reload failed
[07:57] <tritium> steffen, you have a problem with kdm, apparently.  Have you asked in #kubuntu?  Also, if you prefer to chat in german, there is #ubuntu-de
[07:58] <steffen> ah okay i go to kubuntu ;-)
[08:00] <flexs[prog] > that sudo command is good.... with sudo i can do what i want....
[08:00] <nalioth>  flexs[prog]  all that you want all the way to a clean hard drive, lol
[08:00] <flexs[prog] > nalioth i don't want delet my harddrive... :))
[08:01] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : then be careful with "sudo"
[08:01] <flexs[prog] > ok i try to install apache+php+mysql....
[08:02] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : did ya find the howto?
[08:02] <flexs[prog] > i want build web server from source....
[08:03] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : thats admirable. the link i sent you can give you some idea of how it goes
[08:03] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : thanx for help... now i now how can i install librarys....
[08:03] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : use synaptic
[08:04] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : what is synaptic
[08:05] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : System > Admin > synaptic package manager   (at the top left)
[08:05] <yahalom> i keep getting MD5 sum errors when apt getting things. any idea? especially with xfce.
[08:05] <yahalom> it's been happening quite a bit lately.
[08:05] <cmatheson> yahalom: don't use the us sources in your sources.list
[08:06] <nalioth> yahalom: edit your sources.list. remove the us. from us.archive.blah on all the lines with it
[08:06] <yahalom> cmatheson, thats it? delete it, or just remove the us part?
[08:06] <yahalom> ok got it.
[08:06] <yahalom> thanx guys
[08:06] <cmatheson> yahalom: yeah, just delete the us portion... (so it's just archive.ubuntu.com)
[08:08] <vanlal> Umm Guys... What's the default root password?
[08:08] <Bubbling_Zombie> there isn't one
[08:08] <Bubbling_Zombie> use sudo
[08:08] <vanlal> I don't remember setting up a root account when I installed
[08:08] <vanlal> yeah but sudo demands a password
[08:09] <Bubbling_Zombie> that's the pasword of your current account
[08:09] <vanlal> ah ... silly me . Thanks
[08:09] <Bubbling_Zombie> np
[08:09] <Kutterkoeter> hi guys
[08:10] <yahalom> cmatheson, what happened. the servers are abandoned?
[08:10] <nalioth> yahalom: the us servers have been havin some troubles in transmission lately
[08:10] <yahalom> nalioth, unknown reason?
[08:10] <nalioth> yahalom: unknown to me
[08:11] <yahalom> nalioth, :(
[08:11] <Kutterkoeter> one question, how can i configure my adsl modem with the live-cd ? there is no possibility to select eth0 in the networking section...
[08:11] <sledmouth> hi, what is the easiest 802.11x usb dongle for ubuntu on ibook g4
[08:11] <luzbelito> one question, how can i play dvd on ubuntu? i downloaded all packages, plug ins but totem says can't open dvd://  ????
[08:11] <Tuxist> a good cigarete that was what i need
[08:12] <Kyral> GAAAH! Anyone know a good Pop-Under Blocker for Firefox?
[08:12] <Tuxist> use konqueror
[08:12] <Bubbling_Zombie> the embedded one Kyral ?
[08:12] <Kyral> Ain't working :P
[08:12] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : say how can i set that on start-up computer runs my webserver, i don't want run it manual.....
[08:12] <MrMaDSeN> it is here
[08:15] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : i only know of System > Preferences > Sessions, but i'm sure you will want a different way
[08:16] <aio> i've got a 1920x1200 display, but when I play Unreal Tournament, my graphics card is only fast enough to do something like 800x600.  Anyway I can stretch this out to cover more of the screen (even if it's blockier)?
[08:16] <Tuxist> ati card inside ?
[08:17] <aio> yeah - x300 mobility
[08:17] <husher> aio: get a better card? :)
[08:17] <Tuxist> thats the problem
[08:17] <nalioth> Kyral: i suggest you research "adblock hosts" using google
[08:17] <husher> Tuxist: ati cards aren't that bad
[08:17] <Tuxist> nvidia is only useful under linux
[08:17] <Tuxist> yes
[08:17] <aio> husher well, but mobility that implies laptop (which this is), so that makes it harder and more expensive
[08:18] <husher> aio: ah.  bummer.
[08:18] <DanielHolth> Hi check out /etc/fonts/*.conf --- new X11 fonts installed should end up there automatically? Correct? But they never do. Across a range of distributions I have to edit /etc/fonts/local.conf to get my new fonts (terminus-x11) to work.
[08:18] <sledmouth> anyone using ubuntu on amd64?
[08:18] <aio> Tuxist the nvidia card option for this laptop was $200 more and i didn't really plan on gaming....
[08:18] <DanielHolth> But perhaps there is an automatic /etc/fonts/*.conf editing mechanism which I can avail myself of.
[08:18] <gm78> sledmouth, no, but ive helped plenty of people that were, do u have a question?
[08:18] <Tuxist> ati linux = microsoft opensource
[08:18] <aio> any way to scale it so it stretches to fill the whole screen?
[08:18] <gm78> Tuxist, lol
[08:18] <aio> Tuxist ?
[08:18] <Ramiro> #ubuntu-es
[08:19] <aio> Tuxist oh - ok
[08:19] <aio> got it.
[08:19] <gm78> aio, oxymoron
[08:19] <husher> Tuxist: i personally don't care if the drivers are open source, so long as they work.
[08:19] <gm78> :P
[08:19] <Tuxist> what is
[08:19] <ankan_> hey guys...i had a samba question
[08:19] <aio> husher ditto that...
[08:19] <gm78> husher, lol, neither do most people, but thats just the thing. their drivers dont work for most people
[08:19] <Wa77z> hey guys, you think that 256 mb of ram is enough to run ubuntu ?
[08:19] <aio> actually, the open source ati drivers outperform these fglrx 3d drivers in 2d...
[08:19] <coobra> yes
[08:19] <Kyral> yes
[08:19] <gm78> husher, not nearly as well as nvidia's anyways
[08:19] <ermo> Wa77z, it is for me.
[08:20] <aio> Wa77z depends on what you're doing.
[08:20] <Wa77z> well, i am seeing some system slow downs, itws really shitty
[08:20] <aio> i feel shorted at 512MB
[08:20] <Wa77z> ya, i have trouble openeing apps and shit
[08:20] <Tuxist> ati linux driver really bad
[08:20] <ankan_> even after editing my smb.conf file to my workgroup, the samba still fails to join my workgroup
[08:20] <husher> gm78: i'll sacrifice a little performance for a lot cheaper notebook with a better screen, personally
[08:20] <aio> Tuxist ati proprietary linux drivers are really bad.  the open source ones aren't too bad.
[08:20] <husher> gm78: but that's only my preference, I agree they're not as good as nvidia
[08:20] <Tuxist> that allright
[08:21] <gm78> husher, lol, true enough. same here, but for my desktop, nvidia is the only thing i will buy at this point in time. that might change in the future. ati makes good cards, its just their opengl support sucks
[08:21] <Wa77z> WTF is a ppp client
[08:21] <aio> Tuxist and actually, the newest fglrx drivers from ati are better than the ones bundled in hoary.
[08:21] <husher> Wa77z: point-to-point protocol, for dial-up
[08:21] <Wa77z> gotcha, thanks
[08:22] <ankan_> even after editing my smb.conf file to my workgroup, the samba still fails to join my workgroup
[08:22] <husher> aio, really, i'll download them, thanks
[08:22] <gangalino> Tritium: any ideas on my Hoary version?
[08:22] <ankan_> anybody has any sugestions
[08:22] <ankan_> ??
[08:22] <Tuxist> the problem is ati and nvidia dont release technicles documetions about the cards
[08:22] <Wa77z> i cant wait till i get a gig of ram
[08:22] <aio> husher yeah - uninstall your fglrx drivers first, then install.  better 3d and 2d, but it's still not there yet.  i'm trying to get in touch with ati about that....
[08:23] <husher> aio: good luck with that.
[08:24] <Wa77z> anyways, if my mouse is moving kinda of laggy, is that a lack of ram or a config problem
[08:25] <husher> Wa77z: are you running a bunch of apps?
[08:25] <nalioth> Wa77z: if you suspect a lack of ram, it probably is, lol
[08:25] <luzbelito> can anyone help me to run dvd on linux ?
[08:25] <aio> luzbelito what problem are you having?
[08:25] <Wa77z> aight, well, i get some lag when i am installing apps
[08:26] <Wa77z> and sometimes when opening
[08:26] <aio> is your machine recognizing the dvd, but just not playing it?
[08:26] <Wa77z> just normal usage
[08:26] <husher> Wa77z: sounds more like processor lag than ram
[08:26] <Wa77z> hmm
[08:26] <nalioth> Wa77z: sounds like a systemic lack or resources (perhaps a lighterweight desktop manager)
[08:26] <Wa77z> u mean besides gnome ?
[08:26] <aio> Wa77z but if he's short on ram and swapping like crazy, it *could* make the mouse a little jerky...
[08:27] <nalioth> Wa77z: yes, like sfce4 or enlightenment
[08:27] <Wa77z> i didnt know there was nay besiedes gnome and kde
[08:27] <husher> Wa77z: yes, like fluxbox
[08:27] <zenrox> xfce4
[08:27] <Wa77z> sweet
[08:27] <nalioth> Wa77z: but, as i said, if you suspect lack of ram, it probably is
[08:27] <aio> Wa77z or you could be a real man and go raw console
[08:27] <zenrox> xfce4 is really easy to install
[08:27] <Wa77z> lol
[08:27] <aio> who needs graphics anyways?
[08:27] <Wa77z> this is my first distro
[08:27] <husher> there's no such thing as too much ram :)
[08:28] <Wa77z> i been running linux for about two days
[08:28] <nalioth> husher: hear! hear!
[08:28] <Wa77z> = P
[08:28] <Tuxist> http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/
[08:28] <nalioth> Wa77z: welcome to freedom
[08:28] <Wa77z> lol
[08:28] <Wa77z> i like a lot
[08:28] <Jowi> Wa77z, my 1Ghz machine (512mb ram) also lags while installing software. perfectly normal since synaptic make my CPU work at 100% during installation.
[08:28] <Wa77z> that makes me feel better
[08:28] <gm78> Wa77z, lol, there are god knows how many different window managers. enlightenment is pretty neat
[08:29] <Wa77z> ill check it out
[08:29] <nalioth> Wa77z: or as aio pointed out, "who needs graphics anyway?"
[08:29] <Wa77z> = )
[08:29] <ompaul> nalioth, people who think that is what computing is about :)
[08:29] <sledmouth> xfce4 is the best
[08:29] <husher> GUIs make you soft, I always say
[08:29] <aio> Wa77z step up to the plate - be a real man - ditch the little rat thing with a cable - who needs it?
[08:30] <aio> i'm running bitchx for my irc client right now.
[08:30] <jee> window managers / desktops http://xwinman.org/
[08:30] <nalioth> well, i can go both ways
[08:30] <gangalino> tritium: ??
[08:30] <Wa77z> im tryin
[08:30] <ola> short stupid question.. is umask=002 the same as 0664 ?
[08:30] <ompaul> aio is that hard enough?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> ola: for files, yes
[08:31] <aio> Wa77z just kidding - i think gnome is great and fluxbox is pretty cool if you only have a small amount of ram
[08:31] <thoreauputic> ola: for directories, subtract from 777
[08:31] <aio> ompaul bah - give him a chisel and a stone :-)
[08:31] <ola> thoreauputic, and for folders?
[08:31] <thoreauputic> ola: see above
[08:31] <ola> thanks..
[08:31] <Wa77z> BTW, is there a sudo apt-get install command for a new desktop enviorment, or is that something ill need to do on my own
[08:31] <ompaul> aio that is too helpful point him at two stones :)
[08:31] <aio> ompaul and an abacus if he really needs to do calculations
[08:32] <ola> thoreauputic: but it works exactly the opposit..
[08:32] <ola> (i have done something stupid)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> ola: ?
[08:32] <hyphenated> ola: the mask is applied to the permissions desired when a file is created. so it depends ;-)
[08:32] <nalioth> Wa77z: you can apt-get almost everything you need
[08:32] <aio> ompaul or along those lines, you *could* give him a distribution that has to compile everything :-)
[08:32] <hyphenated> generally, you can go with what thoreauputic said
[08:32] <husher> Wa77z: yes, sudo apt-get install 'whatever manager'
[08:32] <ompaul> aio, na he aint got that much time to waste
[08:32] <Wa77z> sweet
[08:32] <zenrox> Wa77z,  read the forum for howtos to install alternate wms
[08:32] <husher> Wa77z: check pacakges,ubuntu.com for a list
[08:33] <ola> i try to set 0664 on vsftpd files that users can upload.. the folders get 0775 but the files 0600.. its strange
[08:33] <aio> Wa77z if you're new to linux, i'd highly recommend taking a peek at synaptic for package management
[08:33] <Wa77z> im lookin at some unofficial starter guide right now too
[08:33] <Kyral> !wiki
[08:33] <nalioth> Wa77z: not the ubuntuguide, i hope?
[08:33] <Kyral> !ubuntuguide
[08:33] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[08:34] <Quest-Master> Bah.
[08:34] <nalioth> Kyral: try !ubguide for another msg
[08:34] <Wa77z> kk
[08:34] <Quest-Master> Ubuntuguide is just fine. :<
[08:34] <zenrox> !unguide
[08:34] <Kyral> !ubguide
[08:34] <ubotu> zenrox: I don't know
[08:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[08:34] <nalioth> Wa77z: the ubuntuguide will lead you into trouble
[08:34] <Seveas> ubotu wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com - the one and only True Source of Information
[08:34] <Quest-Master> It won't. ;d
[08:34] <Wa77z> the unofficial one
[08:34] <Wa77z>  ???
[08:34] <nalioth> Kyral: damn they changed it
[08:34] <husher> has no one else here had problems with the sound output in xchat?
[08:34] <zenrox> if you dont understand whats going on
[08:34] <AndyR> so whats so wrong with ubuntuguide?
[08:34] <Quest-Master> Nothing, IMO
[08:35] <itz> if i delete items with sudo and nothing gets to the wastebin and the disk is still showing like 3gb left what to do? where is "root" wastebin?
[08:35] <AndyR> ive always found it fine
[08:35] <Seveas> AndyR, read the page...
[08:35] <nalioth> Wa77z: stay away from ubuntuguide until you are lots more familiar with *nix
[08:35] <nalioth> AndyR: read the link given by ubotu
[08:35] <Quest-Master> AndyR: Agreed.
[08:35] <Seveas> itz, you delete with nautilus  run as root?
[08:35] <Wa77z> aight thanks for the tip
[08:35] <nalioth> itz: if you del with sudo, the items are GONE
[08:35] <Seveas> nalioth, no :)
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: if you hang around here for a while you will see the horror stories from ubuntuguide when people blindly follow it
[08:36] <Seveas> there is .trash-root in your homedir then :)
[08:36] <Quest-Master> thoreauputic: There can be horror stories simply when installing Ubuntu too, you know.
 You will feel at peace as you no longer fight with multiple virii. You will be freed from buying software
[08:36] <nalioth> Seveas: assuming you can only run sudo at a terminal, if you use sudo to remove something, it's gone
 Use Linux, your computer will thank you
[08:36] <Kyral> I think I'm tripping on something here
[08:36] <itz> Seveas, i cant find it?!!?
[08:36] <Kyral> I'm turning into some sorta Linux Priest
[08:36] <Seveas> itz, if you simply use rm, it's gone
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: sure, but not from a source that new people think is authoritative
[08:36] <ompaul> Kyral, na it is more a ubuntu love fest
[08:37] <itz> Seveas, yeah but if i didnt how do i do now?
[08:37] <Kyral> I want to get a tatoo of the UbuntuLogo on my hand
[08:37] <Seveas> lol Kyral :)
[08:37] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: ubuntuguide is fine if you can read scripts a bit and know Debian etc
[08:37] <itz> In mandrake there is a root wastebin...
[08:37] <Hieronymus> !tell itz ubuntuwiki
[08:38] <itz> Hieronymus, ? :D
[08:38] <Quest-Master> thoreauputic: Nobody said Ubuntuguide was authoritative. It's simply an easy source to get information too without having to sift through explanations and various choices when you simply want to, say, install Java. The instructions on Ubuntuguide are much more straight-forward than the one on the wiki.
[08:38] <Igg-man> !tell Igg-man ibuntuwiki
[08:38] <nalioth> itz: depending on how you have your ubuntu set up, there may be multiple .Trash dirs
[08:38] <itz> can i serach them perhaps?
[08:38] <nalioth> Quest-Master: that, however is changing
[08:38] <itz> i mean it should be at least 15gb in it now so
[08:38] <Seveas> itz find / -iname trash
[08:38] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: <quote>  that new people think is authoritative </unquote>
[08:39] <H0lyD4wg> What should I do if I installed Ubuntu on one computer, then moved the HD to another computer with different HDs and soundcards and other hardware, and i want it to behave like it would if i originally installed it on the second computer?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: question of perceptions
[08:39] <Quest-Master> I don't see anything wrong with giving people choice.
[08:39] <Quest-Master> :P
[08:39] <Wa77z> i am in synaptc package manger riight now, all i need is the enlightenment window manger  right ? no addons or anything
[08:39] <aio> H0lyD4wg i'd reinstall.  *maybe* it'd work if you just plugged in the hard drive....
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: as i said, ubuntuguide is fine for people who already have some clues, but we see lots of trip ups from those who don't: thus, I'm cautious about recommending some of it at least
[08:40] <Quest-Master> k.
[08:40] <gm78> Wa77z, which version is listed for enlightenment?
[08:41] <Quest-Master> Most people are simply saying don't recommend it any longer, and the wiki is all-knowing and perfect for all use.
[08:41] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: I use it too - but I know where the pitfalls are, mostly
[08:41] <Wa77z> last question, once u have enlightenment installed, do you need to enable it as ur default window manager or anything, or is that automatic - it doesnt say the version. i must be looking in the wrong spot
[08:41] <nalioth> Quest-Master: the wiki is less likely to trip up new users
[08:41] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : i don't have glib-2.0 package how can i install it ?
[08:41] <nalioth> Wa77z: choose it at your login using the 'sessions' button
[08:41] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: i think it's a bit extreme to say it should never be used, agreed
[08:41] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : ues synaptic
[08:42] <Wa77z> nvm - its 1 :0 .16.3
[08:42] <Quest-Master> nalioth: That might be subjective. I made my Ubuntu completely "usable" with codecs and Flash and all of that good stuff using Ubuntuguide, never had any problems.
[08:42] <Wa77z> thats what it says under version, in synaptic
[08:42] <Quest-Master> thoreauputic: :)
[08:42] <nalioth> Quest-Master: and how long have you been using *nix?
[08:43] <Hieronymus> Quest-Master: flash isn't good stuff
[08:43] <Quest-Master> nalioth: Mid-late last year.
[08:43] <SDFH_Linux> hm
[08:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> flash is evil
[08:43] <Quest-Master> Hieronymus: I know, I've removed it now, hehe.
[08:43] <SDFH_Linux> i used debian with linuxant driver
[08:43] <SDFH_Linux> and it was never this fast with ubuntu with ndiswrapper
[08:43] <Quest-Master> nalioth: I had a bit of Linux experience with SUSE before-hand. A week I believe, before the Ubuntu installation.
[08:43] <SDFH_Linux> this is like getting 100% signal
[08:44] <flexs[prog] > nalooth : i don't have glib in synaptic
[08:44] <SDFH_Linux> wasnt like this with debian and the linuxant driver
[08:44] <SDFH_Linux> why guys?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Quest-Master: a month or so ago I spent hours fixing troubles that stemmed from advice on that site: mostly the problems have been fixed, but still we get people who have broken their apt systems etc
[08:44] <SDFH_Linux> is it more of a ndiswrapper thing vs linuxant?
[08:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> i use ndiswrapper with debian. works like a charm
[08:44] <Quest-Master> I see.
[08:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> indeed SDFH_Linux
[08:44] <SDFH_Linux> so its a ndiswrapper thing
[08:44] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : can i download glib from ubunto server, or else ?
[08:44] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : did you search for "glib"  <<< only 'glib'
[08:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> yes
[08:44] <Tuxist> i need the new amarok version please make deb
[08:45] <H0lyD4wg> aio, I plugged in the HD and it booted successfully, but every time the kernel is upgraded i have to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst manually and i don't know how to fix the soundcard. re-installation doesn't sound like a good idea - i don't think anyone would suggest re-installation if i was just adding/removing a card/HD from the original box.
[08:45] <SDFH_Linux> linuxant works but sucks compared to ndiswrapper
[08:45] <Hieronymus> Is there anyone here who's ever played teg?
[08:45] <nalioth> Tuxist: why cant you make it? you have the tools.
[08:45] <Tuxist> amarok dont compile
[08:45] <Hieronymus> And point me too some good manual, explaining where the rules differ from normal Risk?
[08:45] <Hieronymus> *to
[08:45] <itz> Seveas, didnt make sense.... how do i search for files greater then 10gb?
[08:45] <Tuxist> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[08:45] <Kyral> How would one compile something writtin in Visual Basic on Linux?
[08:45] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : i have glib-2.0 installed....
[08:45] <Bubbling_Zombie> Kyral, you don't
[08:45] <nalioth> Tuxist: have you ironed out all its error messages when you try to compile it?
[08:46] <Seveas> itz: man find
[08:46] <Seveas> find / -size (i guess)
[08:46] <itz> Seveas,  :/
[08:46] <Seveas> dunno the details by heart
[08:46] <Tuxist> yes
[08:46] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : how about glib-<something>-dev?
[08:46] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : bu when i try to compile midnight commander he says that i don't have the glib
[08:46] <Kyral> okay, then how would you convert VB into GNOME Basic?
[08:46] <Bubbling_Zombie> manually?
[08:46] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : you need the -dev package
[08:47] <electrichamster> Eyup
[08:47] <nalioth> flexs[prog] : and midnight commander is available using synaptic (it is called "mc")
[08:48] <electrichamster> having an odd problem with a network card that I've never encountered before: ifconfig states it's up, gnome-panel says its down, and it's pinging at around 1000ms - any ideas?
[08:48] <flexs[prog] > nalioth : say me... why i don't have mc in list, when i search him.... mybe i need some update... ?
[08:48] <electrichamster> I'm considering just switching the network card, as I suspect it may just be a flaky driver
[08:49] <nalioths_dog> flexs[prog] : For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:49] <nalioths_dog> flexs[prog] : Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:50] <electrichamster> I guess noone knows :s
[08:50] <electrichamster> rats
[08:50] <Seveas> pets*
[08:50] <Tuxist>  :-P
[08:50] <SDFH_Linux> how do i get the latest kernel
[08:51] <thoreauputic> electrichamster: you've been here for 45 seconds since your question, and you assume no one can help? *grin*
[08:51] <electrichamster> 120 seconds actually I'll have you know ;)
[08:51] <Tuxist> http://www.kernel.org/
[08:51] <itz> Seveas, all folders together is like 192gb but the disc is almost full (250gb) so can it be anything hidden on disc? can i somehow typ to see hidden stuff in a dir?
[08:51] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, aptitude install linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd) linux-ppc (mac)
[08:51] <thoreauputic> electrichamster: OK I sit corrected ;)
[08:51] <electrichamster> :D
[08:51] <Seveas> itz, ls -al
[08:51] <nalioth> itz: there is a lot hidden on your disk
[08:52] <itz> k
[08:52] <nalioth> itz: install xdiskusage and you can see into the crevices easily
[08:52] <itz> nalioth, ok
[08:52] <nalioth> itz: you wouldnt believe how much space your browsers take up in cache
[08:53] <electrichamster> thanks anyway, I'll try again some other time
[08:53] <Tuxist> have anyone sdp i need it
[08:53] <SDFH_Linux> what is the latest kernel for ubuntu
[08:53] <Tuxist> 2.6.11
[08:53] <SDFH_Linux> k
[08:53] <ubun> what package to install to see quicktime movie in firefox?
[08:53] <itz> Seveas,  .Trash-root  so there it is.... how do i empty it? :P
[08:53] <Seveas> Tuxist, / SDFH_Linux 2.6.11 is BROKEN
[08:53] <Seveas> do NOT use it
[08:54] <Seveas> itz, sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash-root
[08:54] <SDFH_Linux> is 2.6.10 ok?
[08:54] <bet0x> can i search for pr0n movies with apt-cache ?
[08:54] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, yes
[08:54] <nalioth> Tuxist: if you are compiling amarok, make sure you have all the repos
[08:54] <SDFH_Linux> k
[08:54] <nalioth> bet0x: search all you like
[08:54] <Seveas> bet0x, of course
[08:54] <Tuxist> i cant compile amarok
[08:54] <bet0x> nice :D
[08:54] <bet0x> thanx
[08:54] <Seveas> whether you'll find one is another question :)
[08:54] <HappyFool> Tuxist: still?
[08:54] <Tuxist> send better sdp
[08:55] <Seveas> Tuxist, why compile?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Seveas: i assume hotbabe isn't in the Ubuntu repos ;)
[08:55] <Seveas> it's in the repositories...
[08:55] <Tuxist> amarok 1.3
[08:55] <Seveas> newer version..?
[08:55] <Tuxist> have wiki function
[08:55] <Tuxist> yes
[08:55] <Tuxist> beta
[08:56] <itz> Seveas, didnt do any diffrence? :o
[08:56] <nalioth> Seveas: Tuxist wants "bling" over stability
[08:56] <Tuxist> http://amarok.kde.org/
[08:56] <HappyFool> Tuxist: before my power failed, i was going to say there's no libgl-dev on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <dim_witted_kid> i'm having problems with my browser and openoffice
[08:56] <Tuxist> no risk no fun
[08:56] <Seveas> nalioth, given that he uses KDE, that was clear already ;)
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[08:56] <dim_witted_kid> after using ff for a few minutes, it would stop functioning
[08:56] <SDFH_Linux> what is the latest gnome for ubuntu?
[08:56] <dim_witted_kid> openoffice wouldn't open
[08:56] <nalioth> Seveas: be nice  :)
[08:57] <Tuxist> Tuxist: before my power failed, i was going to say there's no libgl-dev on packages.ubuntu.com i cant install because the package remove x-system-core
[08:57] <HappyFool> SDFH_Linux: if you have hoary, you have got more-or-less the latest stuff
[08:57] <SDFH_Linux> k
[08:57] <Tuxist> thats not funny
[08:57] <HappyFool> Tuxist: by libgl-dev is not a hoary package -- you must have mixed repositories
[08:57] <HappyFool> but
[08:57] <Whistler> i have 2nd hdd and in that hdd theres mandrake and its boot selector how can i boot in my normal mode?
[08:57] <Seveas> Tuxist, try: apt-get build-dep amarok
[08:57] <Tuxist> say a server
[08:57] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: ff has many issues, why not use galeon or kazehakase instead? they both use the gecko engine and have  linux native guis
[08:57] <dim_witted_kid> i tried galeon
[08:58] <Whistler> i have 2nd hdd and in that hdd theres mandrake and its boot selector how can i boot in my normal mode?
[08:58] <dim_witted_kid> same thing...
[08:58] <Tuxist> Tuxist, try: apt-get build-dep amarok that have no effect
[08:58] <Whistler> anybody canhelp me?
[08:58] <Tuxist> say apt me a apt server to get libgl-dev
[08:58] <Tuxist> me
[08:58] <HappyFool> Whistler: you can probably tell grub to boot your mandrake partition
[08:58] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: how bout kazehakase or epiphany?
[08:58] <dim_witted_kid> and about openoffice... i uninstalled it and used the beta version... it still won't open
[08:59] <gangalino> can anyone help me with python versions?
[08:59] <Tuxist> my sdp is no more f++k
[08:59] <dim_witted_kid> haven't tried that yet @ nalioth, but i will try :) thanks
[08:59] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: well, betas are not 'stable' (otw, they'd be 'release versions')
[08:59] <Whistler> but normaly i have selection of ubuntu and xp installed in 1 hdd.Now i connected other hdd and i cant boot to my normal system
[08:59] <pepsi> hooray for broken breezy!
[08:59] <Seveas> lol coca :)
[08:59] <Tuxist> ok
[09:00] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: have you tried removing your beta oOo?
[09:00] <dim_witted_kid> nopes
[09:00] <dim_witted_kid> haven't removed it yet
[09:00] <Whistler> but normaly i have selection of ubuntu and xp installed in 1 hdd.Now i connected other hdd and i cant boot to my normal system
[09:00] <HappyFool> Whistler: so your system is now booting mandrake?
[09:00] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: why don't you try that?
[09:00] <Whistler> yep
[09:00] <dim_witted_kid> but the one installed in my system when i intalled ubuntu also doesn't work
[09:00] <HappyFool> Whistler: there's no need to repeat yourself
[09:01] <anto9us> Whistler: try swapping the cable around
[09:01] <nalioth> Whistler: if you edit your grub, it will start your other HD
[09:01] <HappyFool> Whistler: try making the one master, the other slave (if they're on the same ide cable -- err, i don't know sata)
[09:01] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: which do you want to work more, ff or oOo?
[09:01] <dim_witted_kid> i removed the openoffice thingy before i installed beat hoping it would work
[09:01] <HappyFool> Whistler: i mean, swap the master/slave arrangement
[09:01] <Whistler> they are on separate cables
[09:01] <dim_witted_kid> i'd choose the browser
[09:01] <HappyFool> Whistler: ok, then do what anto9us suggested
[09:02] <dim_witted_kid> i saw from the ubuntu guide that i can run ms office from ubuntu :D
[09:02] <HappyFool> gangalino: sorry, i lost power before i could see your sources.list -- did you get any more assistance?
[09:02] <dim_witted_kid> but it would be better if i could have both
[09:02] <Tuxist> i need a new doener
[09:03] <gangalino> HappyFool: no resolution yet
[09:03] <HappyFool> gangalino: would you mind pasting you sources.list in #flood?
[09:03] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: so lets remove the oOo, then and see what happens
[09:04] <gangalino> HappyFool: it's there in flood already
[09:04] <dim_witted_kid> i already did
[09:04] <HappyFool> gangalino: i can't see what was pasted there when i wasn't here
[09:05] <gangalino> HappyFool: doing again...
[09:05] <blackout> anyone know of a tool to let you create wireless profiles (say, starbucks, home, work) with different essids/wep keys, and cycle through them each time you start up to pick the appropriate one automatically?
[09:05] <sektor> hey
[09:05] <virgule> ho
[09:05] <dim_witted_kid> brb
[09:05] <sektor> where can i find acroread?
[09:05] <blackout> basically, i'm looking for some alternative to editing /etc/network/interfaces each time i boot up my computer (since I roam around a lot)
[09:05] <teferi_> blackout: i do it with wpa_supplicant
[09:06] <Seveas> sektor, in the backports iirc
[09:06] <HappyFool> sektor: in 'multiverse'
[09:06] <teferi_> blackout: which, despite the name, also does WEP
[09:06] <Seveas> HappyFool, is acroread 7 there too?
[09:06] <sektor> happyfool: mutliverse?
[09:06] <sektor> multiverse*
[09:06] <HappyFool> Seveas: looks like 5.1
[09:06] <HappyFool> 5.10, even
[09:06] <Seveas> that's too old and ugly
[09:07] <teferi_> well, 7 is new and ugly
[09:07] <sektor> haha
[09:07] <teferi_> take your pick
[09:07] <Seveas> I'd happily recommand using backports for this one
[09:07] <gangalino> HappyFool: it's there
[09:07] <sektor> and what's backports
[09:07] <sektor> or where do i find it?
[09:07] <HappyFool> gangalino: that last ftp line looks a bit iffy
[09:07] <sektor> bit noob :)
[09:07] <blackout> teferi_: it supports profiles?
[09:07] <teferi_> blackout: aye
[09:07] <Discipulus> HappyFool, you know Seveas is a bot right?
[09:07] <HappyFool> gangalino: i think you should comment it out, run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'
[09:07] <Seveas> Discipulus, lol :)
[09:07] <Tuxist> kopete cvs version  :-)
[09:07] <nalioth> !backports
[09:07] <ubotu> I guess backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:07] <Discipulus> Seveas, where can I find your source?
[09:08] <blackout> teferi_: wow, great.
[09:08] <HappyFool> Discipulus: yip. But we usually don't discuss that in public
[09:08] <nalioths_dog> Discipulus: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:08] <teferi_> blackout: ..as long as you don't mind editing the configuration file
[09:08] <HappyFool> Discipulus: especially not in front of the BEE OH TEE. He's not very smart.
[09:08] <Seveas> Discipulus, when you read enough CS books and manpages you will have collected the info to rebuild me :)
[09:08] <Tuxist> HappyFool you got my message
[09:08] <teferi_> blackout: network-manager does it GUIfully, but i've had very,very poor luck with it
[09:08] <HappyFool> Tuxist: bits of it
[09:08] <teferi_> and can't recommend it yet
[09:08] <Seveas>  /kick HappyFool
[09:08] <HappyFool> Tuxist: your client pastes stuff too fast
[09:08] <Tuxist> kopete cvs
[09:09] <HappyFool> Tno
[09:09] <Discipulus> HappyFool, is he o-p-e-n- -s-o-u-r-c-e ?
[09:09] <HappyFool> aargh
[09:09] <Belutz> HappyFool: hai :D
[09:09] <Seveas> *reset*
[09:09] <HappyFool> Discipulus: no. i think he might be a dalek
[09:09] <teferi_> EXTERMINATE
[09:09] <Discipulus> dalek?
[09:09] <HappyFool> gah, Tuxist's irc client cannot paste stuff
[09:09] <teferi_> END OF IRC HAS ARRIVED
[09:09] <Seveas> teferi_, watch your caps...
[09:10] <teferi_> Seveas: daleks don't speak in lowercase, man
[09:10] <xergi> buenas colegas de linux
[09:10] <teferi_> er. bot. right.
[09:10] <Seveas> buenas dias xergi
[09:10] <gabriel82> i would like to install ubuntu on my powerbook. will i have the same number of packages than on the x86 platform?
[09:10] <ivoks> zdravo drugovi :)
[09:10] <xergi> oye, hacerme un grandioso favor
[09:10] <teferi_> anyway, back to work
[09:10] <Discipulus> HappyFool, http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/via/
[09:10] <Discipulus> HappyFool, that ring a bell?
[09:10] <Seveas> xergi, we speak english in here
[09:10] <blackout> teferi_: network-manager can do profiles?
[09:11] <xergi> como se abren los . exe, que los drivers de mi nueva placa son dew esos
[09:11] <Discipulus> gabriel82, yes
[09:11] <Seveas> gabriel82, almost (you'll have to live without flash iirc)
[09:11] <HappyFool> Discipulus: hrm. ambitious ;)
[09:11] <nalioth> xergi: howdy
[09:11] <teferi_> blackout: yes, but i find it hardlocks my laptop
[09:11] <teferi_> blackout: so i really, *really* can't recommend it
[09:11] <HappyFool> Tuxist: don't paste again ;)
[09:11] <xergi> acostumbradoa winmierda...
[09:11] <nalioth> gabriel82: yes and no
[09:11] <gabriel82> Seveas: what's that?
[09:11] <Tuxist> ok
[09:11] <Discipulus> HappyFool, think Seveas might be one of those?
[09:11] <HappyFool> Tuxist: go here instead: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:11] <Seveas> xergi, if you don't speak english, please go to a localized channel
[09:11] <teferi_> blackout: n-m also doesn't do wpa yet
[09:11] <Tuxist> HappyFool have no dsl
[09:12] <nalioth> gabriel82: you will have acess to all the stuff available, but some things arent available as binaries (as they are on x86)
[09:12] <HappyFool> Tuxist: that doesn't matter ;)
[09:12] <teferi_> and may not for a while, the list is full of people arguing about the best way to do it
[09:12] <HappyFool> Tuxist: that site is just a place you can paste stuff, without getting kicked off due to Excess Flood
[09:12] <xergi> ay alguien espaol????
[09:12] <nalioth> gabriel82: but you can have apt build you a ubuntu package on the spot for most things
[09:12] <Tuxist> ok
[09:12] <Seveas> xergi, va en #ubuntu-es por espanol
[09:12] <Tuxist> peace
[09:12] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i'm on dial-up too ;) don't feel alone
[09:12] <Belutz> HappyFool: what's the default password for user ubuntu in ubuntu live cd?
[09:12] <gabriel82> nalioth: ok thanks i understand
[09:12] <blackout> teferi_: do you mean network-admin, in gnome?
[09:12] <Tuxist> my brother
[09:12] <xergi> ok I try speak in english
[09:12] <itz>  sudo cd /home/ftp/Movies/Dvd-r/.Trash-root/
[09:12] <itz> sudo: cd: command not found
[09:12] <Seveas> Belutz, no passwords at all
[09:12] <itz> What to do? :D
[09:12] <teferi_> blackout: no, that just twiddles /etc/network/interfaces and such
[09:12] <Tuxist> sdsl 4000
[09:12] <el_fish> hm.. i got a simpple question.. does ubuntu have firewall included on install cd?
[09:12] <HappyFool> Belutz: i don't know, sorry. someone asked this yesterday after he'd locked the desktop
[09:12] <teferi_> network-manager may only be in breezy. sorry.
[09:12] <teferi_> um.
[09:13] <ralc> how do i find out which kernel version i use?
[09:13] <Discipulus> HappyFool, how do you update from one release to another release if you're on dial-up?
[09:13] <Seveas> el_fish: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[09:13] <nalioth> gabriel82: if ya have any ???s, theres several PPC users in here
[09:13] <teferi_> stick with wpa_supplicant
[09:13] <HappyFool> Seveas: what's the answer? Just <enter> (blank password?)
[09:13] <blackout> teferi_: rats.  Thanks though.
[09:13] <HappyFool> Discipulus: with great patience
[09:13] <HappyFool> Discipulus: i downloaded the CD over a weekend
[09:13] <anto9us> ralc: uname -r
[09:13] <Seveas> HappyFool, it shouldn't ask for one
[09:13] <sektor> how do i add one of the backports repositories to the sources.list?
[09:13] <teferi_> blackout: if you wait three hours, i can give you a sample config file that i know works ('cause I use it)
[09:13] <xergi> Ok, motherboard' drivers, are .exe, and how open this files in Linux????
[09:13] <Belutz> Seveas: but i can't login without no password, after i locked the desktop, like just HappyFool said
[09:13] <Discipulus> HappyFool, you download the CD instead of doing dist-upgrade ?
[09:13] <Seveas> sektor: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[09:13] <Seveas> sektor: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:13] <el_fish> Seveas: thanks m8
[09:13] <ralc> anto9us, thank you
[09:13] <Tuxist> libgl-de with breezy resp. have no effect cant install these package
[09:13] <nalioth> el_fish: you may want to read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[09:13] <HappyFool> Discipulus: yip
[09:13] <Seveas> Belutz, hmm, that's be a bug
[09:13] <el_fish> i'll take a closer look at it now.. :)
[09:13] <Tuxist> v
[09:14] <Discipulus> HappyFool, why? How do upgrade using a CD ?
[09:14] <Belutz> Seveas: ic...
[09:14] <HappyFool> Discipulus: it's pretty easy
[09:14] <husher> xergi: you don't
[09:14] <itz> are there any gui apps that u can browse your computer like in windows?  That allows you to see anything hidden etc?
[09:14] <Discipulus> HappyFool, any links on it?
[09:14] <HappyFool> Discipulus: i put the cd in, added it from synaptic, and then did a 'smart upgrade'
[09:14] <HappyFool> Discipulus: yeah, on the wiki
[09:14] <gabriel82> the only thing that is making me think it twice is the wireless card because the wireless card of the powerbook is not supported. What do you guys use?
[09:14] <teferi_> blackout: like i said, the other advantage of using wpa_supplicant is that when you upgrade to WPA, you're still covered, software wise
[09:14] <teferi_> I'd be doing WPA myself now if the #%!%ing driver for my card worked properly...
[09:14] <xergi> I can,t open this files in linux???? not are any program, for open this files in linux???
[09:14] <husher> xergi: you need the linux equivilent of the drivers
[09:15] <Belutz> i just tried kubuntu live cd..., the interface is much more better than ubuntu in my opinion, but it's really damn hard to activate my eth1, so i guess ubuntu is more easy to use....
[09:15] <nalioth> customers are callin
[09:15] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i'm using x-chat ;) which does let me paste stuff
[09:15] <xergi> aaaaaaaaaa
[09:15] <xergi> ok
[09:15] <Tuxist> HappyFool you have 1.84 ghz you have enough power to compile
[09:15] <blackout> teferi_: thanks - i hadn't seen network-manager before, which seems to be exactly what i want (except, it should be in gtk, support wpa, and be in hoary :) )
[09:15] <husher> xergi: you can try using wine to emulate windows and open the files
[09:15] <xergi> I have to download the motherboard drivers for linux?
[09:15] <Tuxist> xchat 2.4.1
[09:15] <nalioth_wrkn> HappyFool: it will let ypu paste, use <ctrl-c> and <ctrl-v>
[09:15] <blackout> teferi_: now i just have to figure out how to use wpa_supplicant
[09:15] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i used to compile on my old Pentium 100 MHz ;)
[09:15] <HappyFool> nalioth_wrkn: yeah, i know ;)
[09:15] <Belutz> anyone use ubuntu with laptop?
[09:16] <Belutz> PC laptop
[09:16] <Seveas> Belutz, /me
[09:16] <HappyFool> nalioth_wrkn: Tuxist was getting Excess Flood with whatever client he's using
[09:16] <Seveas> i'm on a laptop right now
[09:16] <Tuxist> my pc have 33mhz with kde this rocks
[09:16] <teferi_> blackout: it does use gtk, it's not in hoary, and still doesn't work that well
[09:16] <gangalino> Teferi: you habesha?
[09:16] <teferi_> blackout: like I said, n-m hardlocks my machine nondeterministically whenever i try it
[09:16] <Belutz> Seveas: how do i activate the 'Fn' key ?
[09:16] <teferi_> gangalino: pardon?
[09:16] <Seveas> Belutz, that is not handled by the operating system
[09:16] <Tuxist> thats not illegal
[09:16] <xergi>  I have to download the motherboard drivers for linux
[09:16] <xergi> ??
[09:17] <Seveas> some Fn+other key combinations might
[09:17] <Seveas> but that's really laptop-type-specific
[09:17] <gangalino> HappyFool: how can you verify that you have Warty? Would re-updating it have an effect?
[09:17] <Belutz> Seveas: so if my laptop vendor doesn't have the software for linux, i can't use my 'Fn' key?
[09:17] <husher> xergi: have you loaded linux on said machine yet?
[09:17] <Seveas> gangalino, cat /etc/issue
[09:17] <itz> Seveas, it worked now... jesus arent there any hui browsers out there that works as root=
[09:17] <Tuxist> HappyFool kopete 10.90 cvs
[09:17] <gangalino> Teferi: I guess not. I was wondering if you were Ethiopian
[09:17] <HappyFool> gangalino: um. look in /etc/lsb-release, maybe
[09:17] <Seveas> Belutz, well, usually it requires tweaking with xmodmap or setkeycodes
[09:17] <blackout> teferi_: yeah, i know - basically, i was saying "it would be great, except for nearly everything"
[09:17] <Belutz> Seveas: what brand of laptop do u use?
[09:17] <HappyFool> gangalino: 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[09:18] <Seveas> Belutz, googling for your laptop type might help
[09:18] <teferi_> gangalino: sorry, no
[09:18] <HappyFool> Discipulus: here (re upgrading with CD): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[09:18] <anto9us> xergi: hopefully, linux will recognise your hardware, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:18] <teferi_> blackout: wpa_supplicant is pretty easy to set up for wpa. if you can wait three hours, i can give you my sample config
[09:18] <HappyFool> Tuxist: sorry, i don't know kopete at all
[09:18] <Belutz> Seveas: that's a good idea... thx for reminding me for googling :D
[09:18] <gangalino> HappyFool: it still says Warty
[09:18] <teferi_> blackout: there's a sample configuration file in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant after you install it, but it's much more than you need
[09:18] <G|immer> hello
[09:18] <Tuxist> kopete.kde.org
[09:18] <Seveas> hi G|immer
[09:19] <virgule> hey all where/what is the best place to report a crash? a KDE applet just crapped on me and I need a clue..plz ;)
[09:19] <HappyFool> gangalino: ok. i recommend removing the ftp entry (if you haven't), running apt-get update
[09:19] <HappyFool> gangalino: oops
[09:19] <teferi_> blackout: (since WPA covers all kinds of exotic authentication methods beyond simple WEP and slightly more complicated EAP-PSK)
[09:19] <husher> Belutz: what kind of laptop do you have?
[09:19] <Seveas> teferi_, do you have it going with 802.1x with TTLS and pap?
[09:19] <blackout> teferi_: yeah, i just need to know how to integrate it into /etc/network/interfaces, and i'm done
[09:19] <HappyFool> gangalino: ... running 'apt-get update', and then running 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:19] <blackout> teferi_: the config file is simple.
[09:19] <Belutz> husher: NEC Versa M540
[09:19] <G|immer> i am mounting my hdb1 FAT32 partiiton with this option: iocharset=utf8,umask=000. Yet, the mount point is empty! any suggestions?
[09:19] <HappyFool> gangalino: however, i don't what will happen if you have debian packages installed
[09:19] <blackout> teferi_: and thankfully, well-documented
[09:19] <teferi_> blackout: that's the thing, you don't have to. you just tell it what interface to use in /etc/default/wpa_supplicant
[09:19] <teferi_> or /etc/default/wpasupplicant. whatever it is
[09:19] <husher> Belutz: i have an asus m6n, and some of my Fn keys work
[09:20] <teferi_> Seveas: hah, i wish
[09:20] <husher> Belutz: it just depends on the notebook
[09:20] <Belutz> husher: ic... i haven't try all my Fn key...
[09:20] <teferi_> Seveas: when i try doing wpa with wpa_supplicant and my card, it doesn't work. it seems to be a known issue that no one cares about
[09:20] <Seveas> ah
[09:20] <teferi_> even with just simple wpa-psk
[09:20] <teferi_> crying shame
[09:21] <teferi_> Seveas: i know wpa_supplicant can delegate to xsupplicant
[09:21] <teferi_> in theory
[09:21] <Seveas> :)
[09:21] <teferi_> i don't know how it works
[09:21] <blackout> teferi_: so, i need exactly 0 entries in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:21] <husher> Belutz: for example, my brightness keys work, but not the sound
[09:21] <Seveas> it works...
[09:21] <Seveas> ...in theory :)
[09:21] <teferi_> i know approximately -> <- this much about 802.1x
[09:21] <gangalino> HappyFool:I get the same error
[09:21] <Belutz> husher: that's the problem.. the brightness key don't work...
[09:21] <DanielHolth> warty, hoary, breezy, what order do they go in?
[09:21] <HappyFool> gangalino: hrm
[09:21] <teferi_> blackout: the way i've been using wpa_supplicant is entirely indepentent of ifupdown
[09:21] <Seveas> DanielHolth, that order :)
[09:21] <Tuxist> hoary
[09:22] <gangalino> HappyFool: check #flood again
[09:22] <husher> Belutz: that is a problem.  did you check xev and dmesg for possible output?
[09:22] <HappyFool> gangalino: i'm there
[09:22] <teferi_> blackout: once wpa_supplicant has associated with a network, i just ifup ath0 and it goes
[09:22] <sektor> anyone know how to add the backport repositories to the sources.list?
[09:22] <Discipulus> hmm, the newest release of Gaim is 1.4.0, but repositories still has 1.3.1
[09:22] <teferi_> (the ath0 stanza in interfaces has nothing wireless-related in it)
[09:22] <HappyFool> gangalino: you have smeg installed?
[09:22] <Discipulus> when do the repositories get updated?
[09:22] <husher> br
[09:22] <sektor> i followed the instruction on the website, but it doesn't work
[09:22] <gangalino> HappyFool: yes
[09:22] <Belutz> husher: no... i'm a newbie hehe... and i just try the live cd, not install it yet
[09:23] <gangalino> HappyFool: get rid of it?
[09:23] <Seveas> Discipulus, all the time
[09:23] <HappyFool> gangalino: um. i don't know what's going wrong here
[09:23] <HappyFool> gangalino: i suspect you have some debian packages installed, and that is interfering with the dist-upgrade
[09:23] <virgule> !info karamba
[09:23] <ubotu> karamba: (A program improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.17-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[09:23] <virgule> !info superkaramba
[09:23] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[09:23] <itz> ive changed password for sudo but i can still use olw password... howcome? :(
[09:23] <teferi_> talking about wireless reminds me of drivers, which reminds me...is there still no word on when linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.12 hits breezy?
[09:24] <teferi_> it's beginning to make me sad.
[09:24] <husher> Belutz: i didn't get that last msg before i quit, what was it?
[09:24] <Discipulus> Seveas, when will the Gaim executable get updated?
[09:24] <Belutz> husher: no... i'm a newbie hehe... and i just try the live cd, not install it yet
[09:24] <Tuxist> superkaramba have more features
[09:24] <flexs[prog] > nalioth_dog : where problem.... i can't save file in my var/www dir, he says that i have no permision, when i try to change permission, he says that i don't have paermission to change permission, where problem ?
[09:24] <Belutz> husher: how do i check xev and dmesg?
[09:24] <virgule> Tuxist: its more super ;)
[09:24] <Tuxist> goil
[09:24] <Seveas> Discipulus, when there are security bugs found (hoary) when a new version is out (breezy)
[09:24] <Tuxist> obergeil
[09:25] <HappyFool> Seveas: does dist-upgrade have a 'force' option of any sort?
[09:25] <husher> Belutz: ok, so open a terminal, press an Fn key combo, and then type dmesg |tail
[09:25] <Belutz> husher: wait... lemme write this
[09:25] <Seveas> HappyFool, dpkg has
[09:25] <teferi_> husher: tail -f, you mean
[09:25] <teferi_> er, wait
[09:25] <teferi_> damnit
[09:25] <demirg> can anyone suggest me an howto to listen to mp3 at hoary?
[09:25] <Discipulus> When will it be safe to use Breezy?
[09:25] <HappyFool> Seveas: hrm, i guess i was confusing them, thanks
[09:25] <teferi_> Discipulus: now is not a good time
[09:25] <Belutz> husher: then what do i do with the output?
[09:25] <Seveas> demirg: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:26] <jaza> heya
[09:26] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: when it's done
[09:26] <Seveas> hi jaza
[09:26] <husher> teferi_: well, not in this particular instance, but most of the time yes
[09:26] <Discipulus> heh
[09:26] <jaza> hey i have a problem :(
[09:26] <blackout> teferi_: strange - don't you have to tell it somehow what interface to use?  I don't see an interface option in wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:26] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, so people generally don't use Ubuntu Unstable like they do with Debian?
[09:26] <teferi_> blackout: you tell it as a command line option
[09:26] <husher> Belutz: paste it to #flood
[09:26] <teferi_> it's a bit strange
[09:26] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: I do
[09:26] <virgule> plz answer quick: I do I get to know the version of an installed package?
[09:26] <virgule> in CLI plz
[09:26] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: filing bugs all the time
[09:26] <Tuxist> Happyfool i have installed this package xlibmesa-gl-dev
[09:26] <jaza> does any1 know how to reset the password after installing ubuntu
[09:27] <Belutz> husher: i'm not running the ubuntu now...
[09:27] <virgule> with fedora I would do rpm -q packagename... but what is it with .deb?/
[09:27] <jaza> does any1 know how to reset the password after installing ubuntu
[09:27] <teferi_> dpkg -p
[09:27] <HappyFool> virgule: dpkg -s <package>|grep ^Version
[09:27] <GigaClon> the next ver of ubuntu is breezy right
[09:27] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: right
[09:27] <jaza> any1 help me ?
[09:27] <GigaClon> breezy what?
[09:27] <Belutz> husher: maybe i'll catch u later, when i'm running kubuntu
[09:27] <Hieronymus> GigaClon: Breezy Badger 5.10
[09:27] <blackout> teferi_: which you specify in /etc/defaults/wpasupplicant?
[09:27] <Tuxist> Ich hre gerade diese Musik: Holy Virgin von Groove Coverage auf Playa Special Edition No 11
[09:27] <husher> Belutz: ok, well, you're going to need to do that ;)
[09:27] <HappyFool> Tuxist: ok. is it working?
[09:27] <Tuxist> no
[09:27] <Seveas> Tuxist, ehrm....
[09:27] <Tuxist> i hate my life
[09:27] <teferi_> blackout: oh hell, you would ask me when i don't have my laptop with me :(
[09:27] <Hieronymus> Tuxist: Deutsch in #ubuntu-de
[09:28] <Belutz> husher: ok, i just have to finish my crystal reports first :D
[09:28] <Tuxist> my plugin
[09:28] <gangalino> HappyFool: I removed smeg and it seems to be getting further
[09:28] <Seveas> Tuxist, and scripts in /dev/null
[09:28] <jaza> can any1 help me
[09:28] <husher> Belutz: ok
[09:28] <blackout> teferi_: that's okay, i'll figure it out
[09:28] <Seveas> jaza, which password..?
[09:28] <teferi_> you have to specify which driver to use, which interface to use, and the path to the config file if it's not in /etc/wpasupplicant.conf
[09:28] <teferi_> it's all in the manpage
[09:28] <HappyFool> gangalino: cool. i see apt-get has a '-f' 'repair' option which *might* help, but i'm not sure
[09:28] <blackout> teferi_: right, that's what i'm finding
[09:28] <virgule> HappyFool: thx a lot that output what I want. Is it possible to setup an alias for this?
[09:29] <teferi_> I do hope you have a card that w_s supports...
[09:29] <HappyFool> virgule: err. long time no write alias
[09:29] <blackout> teferi_: i do - hermes
[09:29] <teferi_> marvelous
[09:29] <HappyFool> virgule: i don't know how to put arguments into aliases -- a shell script should be doable
[09:30] <gangalino> anyone use Gdesklets? How do I get the main window to show up? I have it running, but I want to install more desklets, it isn't showing in the task/status area
[09:30] <blackout> teferi_: there's almost nothing in the manpage, by the way.
[09:30] <teferi_> blackout: alas
[09:30] <teferi_> blackout: istr there being a bunch of stuff in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant, though
[09:30] <blackout> teferi_: yeah, that's where i'm getting this from.
[09:31] <gijosh> Hey.  I have Ubuntu installed on my hard drive, but I have no boot loader atm.  I'm ont he live cd.  What's the best way to install grub from here?
[09:31] <G|immer> can the repositiory database get messed up? meaning, Synaptic shows something as not installed when it is installed, and am not getting the updates listed anywhere (like gaim 1.3.1)?
[09:31] <Seveas> gijosh, the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/recoveringgrubafterinstallingwindows might help you
[09:31] <Seveas> you're in about the same situation
[09:31] <gijosh> Seveas:  Thanks man.
[09:32] <mick_> hey
[09:32] <thoreauputic> jaza: to reset a password, type 'passwd username' and answer the questions
[09:32] <mick_> can some one help me out
[09:32] <Hieronymus> mick_: just ask
[09:32] <husher> gangalino: i usually just run gdesklets again
[09:33] <gijosh> Seveas: Yea, this is exactly what I need.  Thanks a lot. :)
[09:33] <thoreauputic> jaza: where "username" is the user concerned
[09:33] <mick_> ive been having troubles installing apps because i cant log in ass root
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[09:33] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:33] <mick_> i set my root pass with sudo
[09:33] <thoreauputic> mick_: read that
[09:33] <Hieronymus> mick_: you can use sudo
[09:33] <Hieronymus> mick_: sudo will use your _own_ password
[09:33] <Seveas> thoreauputic, Hieronymus too jumpy :)
[09:33] <teferi_> blackout: oh! one thing the docs *don't* mention...if you suspend your laptop and then later resume it, you need to restart wpa_supplicant
[09:34] <mick_> su i just use suda in the terminal
[09:34] <Seveas> mick_, yes
[09:34] <Seveas> sudo -i gives you a root shell
[09:34] <husher> teferi_, what kind of laptop do you have?
[09:34] <thoreauputic> mick_: sudo <command> ; type your user pass
[09:34] <demirg> seveas, thanks
[09:34] <blackout> teferi_: that's okay, i can't suspend it anyway :)
[09:34] <mick_> ok cool
[09:34] <Hieronymus> Seveas: no I wasn't, sudo will use your _own_ *personal* password
[09:34] <teferi_> husher: I have a ThinkPad T40.
[09:34] <blackout> teferi_: it's telling my my wep key is too long though, so I"ll have to figure out what hte problem is
[09:35] <teferi_> WIth the exception of exactly two things, everything on it works perfectly
[09:35] <husher> teferi_: dang.  i can't get my asus to suspend, and i was hoping you had something close.
[09:35] <teferi_> Unfortunately, both of those two things are rather massive annoyances
[09:35] <husher> teferi_, what are they?
[09:35] <teferi_> ...speaking of one of those things, anyone seen mjg?
[09:35] <mick_> nice
[09:35] <mick_> thanks
[09:35] <Seveas> !seen mjg
[09:35] <ubotu> Seveas: i haven't seen 'mjg'
[09:35] <teferi_> husher: the video chip doesn't get shut down properly in suspend, so it draws too much power
[09:35] <teferi_> i only get about 3 hours suspend time at most
[09:36] <husher> might as well leave it running, at that point
[09:36] <teferi_> no way
[09:36] <teferi_> heat
[09:36] <husher> point taken
[09:36] <teferi_> if i leave it sitting in my backpack not suspended for an hour, it'll overheat itself into a nice crash
[09:36] <teferi_> it's happened
[09:36] <mick_> is there any way to get totem to install new codecs specificallly XVid
[09:37] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[09:37] <ubotu> I guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:37] <HappyFool> hm. can anyone here resolve www.defensetech.org ?
[09:37] <gverig> Do I have something misconfigured or do Ubuntu repos for Hoary still have firefox 1.0.2?
[09:38] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, so why would you suggest I wait till it comes out to use it?
[09:38] <HappyFool> !firefox
[09:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[09:38] <teferi_>  anyway, that's the biggest laptop problem. the other is the WPA problem I mentioned earlier
[09:38] <anto9us> HappyFool: it's very slow
[09:38] <husher> HappyFool: nope.
[09:38] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: If you know what you're doing, help test it!
[09:38] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, heh, define "know what you're doing"
[09:38] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: just don't get too pissed off when X breaks a lil' bit
[09:38] <HappyFool> anto9us, husher: firefox?
[09:39] <Belutz> husher, my brightness key now is working.....
[09:39] <virgule> "a 'lil bit" lol
[09:39] <teferi_> i'm pretty happy running breezy, but i ran debian unstable for seven years before going to ubuntu
[09:39] <anto9us> HappyFool: yes
[09:39] <husher> Belutz: excellent
[09:39] <teferi_> so i know how to placate dpkg, fix massive breakages, etc, etc
[09:39] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, heh, X break ofteN?
[09:39] <husher> HappyFool: i can't resolve the address with ping
[09:39] <gverig> HappyFool: Any info why firefox is backported (and what "backported" means in the first place)?
[09:39] <teferi_> your mileage will vary
[09:39] <superbo3> hi all i saw the admin at work use ubunto on a old machine for fun and loved it so im downloading it now for my old pc but i would like to ask here if it would work ok on a 200 mhz pc before i start formating it? :-)
[09:39] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: well, if you need help changin your repos to breezy, than you'd better not
[09:39] <HappyFool> husher: oh, right ;) thank you
[09:39] <Belutz> husher, i want to chech my mute/unmute key... how do i do that?
[09:39] <husher> HappyFool, np
[09:40] <Belutz> *check
[09:40] <Discipulus> haha, I don't need help doing that
[09:40] <HappyFool> gverig: cos ubuntu doesn't upgrade software in a release. only security fixes (and other critical fixes) are applied
[09:40] <Discipulus> I'm not THAT much of a n00b
[09:40] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: It was said to be very buggy in the beginning (but I wasn't using Breezy then), and once Xorg changed from /usr/bin/X11R6/Xorg to /usr/bin/Xorg, which wasn't change in gdm.conf, and I had to do that manually
[09:40] <husher> Belutz: open a Terminal, press the mute key or key combo, then type "dmesg |tail" in the terminal
[09:40] <teferi_> oh yeah, i remember that breakage
[09:40] <teferi_> that sucked
[09:40] <teferi_> that sucked hard
[09:40] <HappyFool> gverig: backported means the appropriate bits from 1.0.4 are applied to 1.0.2
[09:41] <gverig> HappyFool: ? Does this mean that we'll have firefox 1.0.2 until nex Ubuntu is released?
[09:41] <gverig> nex=next
[09:41] <teferi_> i really can't recommend upgrading to breezy as of right now, though
[09:41] <HappyFool> gverig: yip
[09:41] <teferi_> because of the udev/kernel problem
[09:41] <Wa77z> ok guys, i installed enlightenment windows mager, but i cant select it in my session types at login, what can i do
[09:41] <Belutz> husher, i paste it on #flood
[09:41] <HappyFool> gverig: next release in october
[09:41] <superbo3> anyone got time to answer a quick qustion? :) will ubunto run fine on my old 200 mhz pc? (has voodoo 3 card) :)
[09:42] <Hieronymus> superbo3: not with gnome
[09:42] <Seveas> superbo3, not with gnome or kde
[09:42] <Seveas> you will need fluxbox
[09:42] <HappyFool> gverig: you can always install the binary from mozilla.org, and i think the quasi-official backports repository may have it, i'm not sure
[09:42] <Hieronymus> superbo3: you could install something a bit lighter, like XFCE
[09:42] <Seveas> (or maybe xfce)
[09:42] <HappyFool> gverig: by 'it' i mean 1.0.4
[09:42] <husher> Belutz: nothing there about your button, check google for info on your notebook model
[09:42] <steffen> hi how can i install the java jdk on ubuntu?
[09:42] <DanielHolth> Anyone here gotten terminus in their terminal? It doesn't seem to want to use bitmap fonts.
[09:42] <gverig> HappyFool: Hmm... 1) this seems strange... 2) Is Ubuntu upgradeable through aptget or will I have to burn new CDs?
[09:43] <Belutz> husher, i already googling for it and have no luck, i guess i must live with it...
[09:43] <Hieronymus> gverig: apt-get
[09:43] <gverig> Hieronymus: Thanks
[09:43] <teferi_> gverig: it's a debian-derivative, so yes, you can upgrade via apt
[09:43] <superbo3> i got no idea what all those things are im a total n00b at linux stuff but i wanna learn cos im tired of windows and i liked how ubunto works tryed at work :) lol
[09:43] <HappyFool> gverig: 1) it's a policy favouring stability 2) you can upgrade via apt over the network
[09:43] <Tarcastil> hey, how do I change my default window manager?
[09:43] <Wa77z> Seveas, I installed enlightenment form synaptic, but i dont think the install went right because i cant select it in sessiontypes
[09:44] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: If you run Breezy, I suggest you do that in a separate partition
[09:44] <Belutz> husher, one more question, since i can't use my 'swith monitor mode' key, how do i change the display into external monitor or an LCD projector?
[09:44] <husher> Belutz, keep looking, there's a lot out there
[09:44] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, heh, alright, I won't then
[09:44] <djp> steffen: read this first... http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
[09:44] <steffen> thx
[09:44] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, when do the Hoary reps get updated (looking forward to upgrading Gaim
[09:44] <Discipulus> )
[09:44] <husher> Belutz: try starting the laptop with an external monitor plugged in; that worked on my old sony
[09:45] <Tarcastil> Wa77z: the installation probably went ok. For some reason it doesn't show up in gdm.
[09:45] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: It has been usable and stable for me, but, you know, just to be on the safe side
[09:45] <Belutz> husher, ok, thx for the tips :)
[09:45] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: Hoary doesn't get updated
[09:45] <spanglesontoast> where gcc 3.4.0 ?
[09:45] <Valle> hey guys i am seachin for a small an fast mail-server for linux, does anybody have clue?
[09:45] <Tarcastil> Wa77z: I'm actually having the same problem and am trying to get around it by making it the default window manager
[09:45] <Hieronymus> Discipulus: only security fixes
[09:45] <sijmen> I'm trying to install mediawiki on a freshly installed Apache/PHP/MySQL machine, but I'm getting this error:
[09:45] <sijmen> Warning: dl(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /home/httpd/html/lanparty5/mediawiki-1.4.6/install-utils.inc on line 17
[09:45] <sijmen> Could not load MySQL driver! Please compile php --with-mysql or install the mysql.so module.
[09:45] <Wa77z> Tarcastil, thats right
[09:45] <steffen> djp: i won't read why i doesnt use java, i will use java :-P
[09:45] <Seveas> sijmen, do NOT!! paste in here
[09:45] <Discipulus> Hieronymus, ah, alright, that sucks
[09:45] <husher> Belutz: np
[09:45] <sijmen> Seveas, sorry, that was too much.
[09:45] <Seveas> sijmen, and install php4-mysql
[09:45] <Belutz> husher, how big is your HDD?
[09:45] <sijmen> Okay
[09:46] <husher> Belutz: 80
[09:46] <sijmen> That's what I was wondering, whether there is some serperate php<->mysql link package
[09:46] <sijmen> Thanks
[09:46] <Belutz> husher, you only installed ubuntu or dual boot with windows?
[09:46] <Wa77z> what are some enviorments that use little ram ? i know of enlightenment and fluxbox i think its called
[09:46] <HappyFool> Valle: i'm definitely no expert, but the ubuntu default seems to be postfix -- tried that?
[09:46] <husher> Belutz: dual with windows
[09:46] <nalioth> Wa77z: xfce4
[09:47] <Belutz> husher, how much space do you use for ubuntu partition?
[09:47] <Valle> HappyFool not yeat, but I am gonna take a look at it
[09:47] <Valle> thanks a lot
[09:47] <spanglesontoast> WHERE can i get gcc 3.4.0 ?
[09:47] <Wa77z> nalioth, i have no idea what that means
[09:47] <teferi_> Valle: i like postfix a lot
[09:47] <teferi_> i like postfix a great deal
[09:47] <Wa77z> nvm
[09:47] <Wa77z> lmao
[09:47] <teferi_> it's very configurable and supports everything you'd ever want to do, smtp-wise
[09:47] <Wa77z> i frogt i asked a question
[09:47] <husher> Belutz: 20 windows, 20 fat (for storage), 40 ubuntu
[09:47] <GigaClon> spanglesontoast: from apt?
[09:47] <nalioth> Wa77z: xfce4 is a small-footprint desktop manager
[09:47] <cmatheson> Wa77z: openbox
[09:47] <djp> teferi_: same here. using postfix also
[09:47] <Valle> teferi_ is it preinstalled or apt?
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> well I did get it from apt except
[09:48] <djp> Valle: preinstalled
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> Linux version 2.6.10-5-k7 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 18:51:20 UTC 2005
[09:48] <husher> Belutz: but i've only used 2.6 on my ubuntu partition
[09:48] <djp> Valle: ubuntu hoary anyway
[09:48] <spanglesontoast> it stays at that version
[09:48] <Belutz> husher, ic, how much space does ubuntu used for a default instalation?
[09:49] <cmatheson> Belutz: ~1.5G
[09:49] <husher> Belutz: about 2ish, maybe less
[09:49] <Belutz> husher, cause my laptop only has 60gb
[09:49] <husher> Belutz: you'll be fine
[09:49] <thoreauputic> spanglesontoast: that's the compiler that compiled the kernel :)
[09:49] <GigaClon> only???
[09:49] <nalioth> Belutz: somehow i think ubuntu will fit
[09:49] <gijosh> I'm on an Ubuntu live cd.  I tried to mount my root filesystem which is /dev/hdb2 to /mnt/work with "mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/work" and got the error that it's either the wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock.
[09:49] <Belutz> husher, so 20 windows, 20 fat32 and 20 ubuntu is more than enough to play around with ubuntu?
[09:50] <GigaClon> spanglesontoast: gcc --version
[09:50] <spanglesontoast> k
[09:50] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: try maybe 'dpkg -L gcc-3.4' to find it
[09:50] <Hieronymus> Belutz: 20 gB for Ubuntu is more than enough
[09:50] <Belutz> Hieronymus, ok :)
[09:50] <husher> Belutz: if you don't need access to your windows files, 10G for ubuntu is more than enough
[09:50] <spanglesontoast> it's ok it's normal I'm told by lfs
[09:50] <Hieronymus> Belutz: it needs about 4 gB + room for your data
[09:50] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: lfs?
[09:50] <nalioth> Belutz: you can actually give ubuntu 5 gb, because linux can read/write to fat32
[09:51] <nalioth> HappyFool: linux from scratch
[09:51] <Belutz> can't wait till friday, so i can format my laptop HDD :D
[09:51] <jcoxon> evening all
[09:51] <Belutz> nalioth, oh... i forgot about that...
[09:51] <GigaClon> ubuntu can't right to nfts right?
[09:51] <HappyFool> nalioth: indeed. i suppose i shuold have put those eyes: O.O
[09:51] <spanglesontoast> dw
[09:51] <MarcN> ubuntu's wiki doesn't seem to support RSS feeds.  Can some admin enable it?
[09:51] <HappyFool> GigaClon: correct
[09:51] <glyph_> hi
[09:51] <Belutz> nalioth, can i install linux apps on fat32?
[09:51] <husher> Belutz: what filesystem does your windows install use?
[09:52] <Belutz> husher, by default is NTFS
[09:52] <husher> Belutz: you can, but it's not reccomended
[09:52] <nalioth> Belutz: you can make a small ext3 partition for your kernel, and if you don't want a secure fs, go right ahead
[09:52] <nalioth> Belutz: and they also make some distros of linux that totally use fat32
[09:52] <nalioth> Belutz: but i'd avoid those
[09:52] <glyph_> can it be done in FAT32 (vfat)?
[09:52] <HappyFool> can you do things like setuid apps etc. on a fat32 partition ?
[09:52] <husher> Belutz: you can read ntfs all day long, but not write to it
[09:53] <husher> HappyFool: no
[09:53] <Belutz> husher, yup...
[09:53] <hsledmout> why bother with ntfs? why not just add the ext3/reiserfs etc?
[09:53] <Tuxist> HappyFool have now amarok compile and maked a package
[09:53] <teferi_> writing to ntfs with the state of the art, using anything besides the 'captive' driver, is a very bad idea
[09:53] <HappyFool> Tuxist: well done. you are certainly persistent ;)
[09:53] <nalioth> however (i like this part) if you are done with windows, writing to NTFS is the best thing >>>> for wiping
[09:53] <HappyFool> heh
[09:53] <husher> Belutz: so if you never need to write to the windows partition, make a 20g ext3 partition on the end and go for it
[09:54] <Belutz> hmm guys, i'm going to have a public seminar on thursday for my bachelor degree. I need all of you to wish me luck, and spare a little time to pray for me....
[09:54] <nalioth> Tuxist: see? we knew you could do it
[09:54] <HappyFool> Belutz: good luck ;)
[09:54] <Tuxist> not persistent i am god
[09:54] <Hieronymus> Belutz: good luck, but I won't pray
[09:54] <HappyFool> Belutz: i recommend getting a friend to ask a pre-arranged, apparently difficult question
[09:54] <djp> good luck Belutz
[09:54] <glyph_> is there any programs other than Cygwin for porting the Termanil to Windows
[09:55] <hsledmout> putty
[09:55] <Belutz> HappyFool, hmmm i already did that.. with my lecturer LOL
[09:55] <husher> Belutz, good luck
[09:55] <airmikey> good luck
[09:55] <Belutz> thx guys... after that, i could format my laptop HDD and welcoming ubuntu on my laptop :D
[09:56] <Belutz> before i found ubuntu, i was thinking to install FreeBSD on my laptop
[09:56] <glyph_> brb
[09:57] <husher> brb
[09:57] <Discipulus> I like ports on FreeBSD
[09:57] <GigaClon> Tuxist: I love you name
[09:57] <Discipulus> Ports > Emerge
[09:57] <dikadika> I installed ubuntu using the standard installation and went to sleep when i came back it is sitting at a grub prompt, how can i boot into windows or linux? can someone help me??
[09:57] <Tuxist> god
[09:57] <glyph_> back
[09:57] <GigaClon> dikadika: enter?
[09:58] <Belutz> Discipulus, my friends said that FreeBSD is more secure than other unix OS, is that true?
[09:58] <glyph_> lol
[09:58] <Discipulus> Belutz, it's all a matter of opinion
[09:58] <demirg> how can i mount fat32 partitions? a howto or sth, pls...
[09:58] <Discipulus> Belutz, and it all depends on who's running it ;-)
[09:58] <Tuxist> apotheosize is better
[09:58] <dikadika> GigaClon, gives me anothergrub> prompt
[09:58] <Hieronymus> demirg: in the wiki there's a page automaticallymountmswindowspartitions. That'll helpyou
[09:58] <Belutz> Discipulus, hahaha... that's a good point :p
[09:58] <nalioths_dog> demirg: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[09:59] <Discipulus> Belutz, security is in the eye of the user ;-)
[09:59] <GigaClon> !win32?
[09:59] <ubotu> GigaClon: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:59] <mateo> anyone speak spanish?  i need help!
[09:59] <Belutz> Discipulus, does ubuntu fit enough to be a live server?
[09:59] <Tuxist> doener is better
[09:59] <Discipulus> Belutz, personally, I think nothing beats Ubuntu for home user
[09:59] <nalioth> mateo en #ubuntu-es por favor
[09:59] <Discipulus> Belutz, any Linux distro can be a server
[09:59] <mateo> thks
[10:00] <Discipulus> Belutz, a good friend of mine is running a dial-up ISP in australia with Mandrake 7.2
[10:00] <Belutz> Discipulus, ic...
[10:00] <glyph_> yes all of them can great example K12LTSP
[10:00] <Tuxist> server debian destop kubuntu thats my chioce
[10:00] <Belutz> Discipulus, what do u think about RedHat or Fedora Core?
[10:00] <Discipulus> Belutz, I don't like 'em.
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Discipulus: I hope he knows how to compile more up-to-date security patches then :/
[10:01] <Discipulus> thoreauputic, he does, lol
[10:01] <Tuxist> Belutz rpm  :'(
[10:01] <glyph_> Belutz, i used them for years befor i switch to ubuntu there great
[10:01] <Belutz> Tuxist, i just tried kubuntu live cd, and i had a hard time activating my eth1, not as easy as ubuntu
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Discipulus: that's a relief... ;)
[10:01] <Belutz> Tuxist, what's wrong with rpm ?
[10:01] <Tuxist> no apt
[10:01] <Discipulus> thoreauputic, he told me if I wanted a good fast connection, that starting a dial-up ISP was the way to go, that you basically got paid while you do whatever you want to
[10:01] <glyph_> lol
[10:02] <glyph_> FC4 has APT and YUM
[10:02] <nalioth> Belutz: there is a phrased coined for rpm.."red hat hell"
[10:02] <Tuxist> i know apt4rpm
[10:02] <Discipulus> Belutz, they use yum, which is a knock-off of apt, meaning it isn't as good
[10:02] <Belutz> i should've use linux from a long long time ago......
[10:02] <IRCMonkey> I have forgoten ma pasword can any one help me log on
[10:02] <Belutz> ic ic...
[10:02] <thoreauputic> Discipulus: heh - yeah nice way to get a fat pipe for nothing :)
[10:02] <Tuxist> deb is better god has speak
[10:02] <Discipulus> Belutz, anyone who's hardcore into Linux uses (from what I can tell) either Slackware or Debian
[10:02] <glyph_> Yellowdog Update Manager is for RPMs only
[10:02] <Belutz> i only know .msi and .exe for installing applications LOL
[10:03] <hsledmout> slackware is crazy flexible
[10:03] <Belutz> Discipulus, is Slackware is still a good distro? i've never heard of it anymore
[10:03] <hsledmout> i use it on a 256mb flash card for a media player
[10:03] <ep> According to apt-cache show bzflag  1.10 is available from the universe section (repository?) However I was hoping to install version 2.x  and its unclear how to determine if its apt-gettable as "unstable".
[10:03] <mbirkis> what package system is on slackware?
[10:03] <Discipulus> thoreauputic, that's what he said, said he has a nice fat pipe, gets to pay all the bills, and still puts about a grand a month into his pocket
[10:03] <glyph_> and if you want to lern a lot about the inerworkings you use gentoo
[10:03] <Discipulus> mbirkis, not really sure...
[10:03] <cmatheson> mbirkis: iirc it's just lame .tgz's
[10:03] <hsledmout> slackware uses tgz slackware packages
[10:04] <hsledmout> and can use rpms
[10:04] <thoreauputic> hsledmout: true but you need to know what to do when confronted by a bare prompt on install ;)
[10:04] <Tuxist> msi and exe to many dll many have own libarys und dont use one
[10:04] <jcoxon> slackwares great :p
[10:04] <nalioth> Belutz: in linux you can write a text file, and then tell the text file that it is executable, and it will be a 'program'
[10:04] <Tuxist> thats b
[10:04] <ep> Also is it possible to apt-get an unstable package and while at the same time picking up the dependencies from stable?
[10:04] <Belutz> ic ic
[10:04] <thoreauputic> glyph_: actually slackware will teach you more about linux than gentoo ever would
[10:05] <nalioth> ep: not advised due to version discrepancys
[10:05] <Discipulus> ep, in that case, download the source and make a .deb using checkinstall
[10:05] <Belutz> can i use both gnome and kde in ubuntu? so i could switch between them anytime i want?
[10:05] <Tuxist> yes
[10:05] <Discipulus> bbiab
[10:05] <cmatheson> Belutz: yeah, just install kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Tuxist> kde is the best
[10:05] <nalioth> Belutz: and fluxbox, xfce4, enlightenment, etc
[10:05] <hsledmout> i've been gentoo'ing for two years and am about to migrate to ubuntu on my amd64
[10:05] <Tuxist> flamewar lets rock
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Belutz: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <hsledmout> i don't see the point of compiling everything
[10:05] <Belutz> ic ic...
[10:06] <Belutz> do you guys works for ubuntu??
[10:06] <cmatheson> Tuxist: KDE sucks! ... <tuxist> cmatheson: YOU SUCK! ... this is looking way to much like an adam sandler movie
[10:06] <Tuxist> gods
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Belutz: most of us are just hopeless addicts ;-)
[10:06] <hsledmout> ubuntu works for me ;)
[10:06] <Tuxist> gnome user have little ....
[10:06] <hsledmout> (on muh ibook)
[10:06] <glyph_> synaptic (i thinks thats whay its called) theres an area call KDE desktop Manager get it from there its easier
[10:06] <ep> actually a deb for debian is already downloadable.  I used dpkg -i to try to install it but  my libcurl wasn't an high enough version.
[10:06] <Belutz> ic ic
[10:06] <tritium> no flamewars please
[10:07] <ccc> any recommendations for converting dvd vob:s to a more compressed format (xvid preferably) ?
[10:07] <Belutz> i hope in time i could be in this channel and helping people :D
[10:07] <Tuxist> war is my buisness. I am soldier
[10:07] <glyph_> im sry
[10:07] <HappyFool> Belutz: patience, young grasshopper
[10:07] <Tuxist> G36 rocks
[10:07] <nalioth> Belutz: linux is "open source". You can run any desktop system you like, you can run w/o a external display at all if you want
[10:07] <nalioth> Belutz: you are free to do with it what YOU want
[10:07] <gerwhite> any of you guys into ubuntu
[10:08] <Belutz> HappyFool, speaking of grasshopper, anyone used 'Grasshopper' yet?
[10:08] <nalioth> ccc: dvdrip
[10:08] <Tuxist> kde easy Gnome easy windowsmanager not useful for a beginner
[10:08] <ep> wrong channel gerwhite -- opps
[10:08] <HappyFool> heh
[10:08] <hsledmout> xfce4!
[10:08] <thoreauputic> gerwhite: no, we just pretend to be into Ubuntu by hanging in the channel
[10:08] <glyph_> im in Windows Right now (poor fool)
[10:08] <hsledmout> haha
[10:08] <ccc> nalioth: thanks.
[10:08] <hsledmout> (me too :( )
[10:09] <glyph_> hsledmout, lol
[10:09] <nalioth> hsledmout: yes, windows on PPC works great, eh? lol
[10:09] <hsledmout> i'm at work
[10:09] <Hieronymus> thoreauputic: now you've blown our cover!
[10:09] <Hieronymus> ssh!
[10:09] <hsledmout> tunelling thru their firewall :)
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Hieronymus: oh yeah... um.... wait... ;-)
[10:09] <hsledmout> gotta love corkscrew!
[10:09] <Tuxist> a new war ?
[10:09] <ralc> is there a free linux 3d game you can recommend? its for testing my gfx
[10:09] <Tuxist> where is there
[10:10] <Belutz> TuxRacer!!! :D
[10:10] <Tuxist> glest
[10:10] <glyph_> if i wasbt playing with my md player i would be in ubuntu
[10:10] <nalioth> ralc: run glxgears
[10:10] <Tuxist> doom3
[10:10] <Hieronymus> gl-117
[10:10] <Tuxist> grins
[10:10] <glyph_> glTron
[10:10] <Hieronymus> absolutely top!
[10:10] <ralc> nalioth, it should be a game :)
[10:10] <Tuxist> freeciv
[10:10] <Tuxist>  :-)
[10:10] <glyph_> FreeCraft
[10:11] <Belutz> 3D Solitaire? :p
[10:11] <glyph_> :-)
[10:11] <glyph_> 3dchess?
[10:11] <Tuxist> 3dpocker
[10:11] <Tuxist>  :-P
[10:11] <thoreauputic> frozen bubble!
[10:11] <nalioth> abuse
[10:11] <glyph_> freedoom
[10:11] <nalioth> nah, thats not 3d
[10:11] <glyph_> true
[10:11] <Tuxist> ching chang chung
[10:11] <ralc> yeah yeah :D does quake3 run on linux? or ut?
[10:11] <Tuxist> ut quake run
[10:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yesd and yes
[10:11] <Tuxist> is was faster
[10:12] <Tuxist> bh
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^ using cedega or transgamings point2play
[10:12] <glyph_> not Steam...
[10:12] <ralc> oh nice gonna try them
[10:12] <Belutz> can i installed program that is not listed in synaptic?
[10:12] <glyph_> damn ActiveX
[10:12] <Hieronymus> Belutz: yes
[10:12] <Tuxist> cedega can got from apollon  :-)
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> steam runs in point2play
[10:12] <Belutz> Hieronymus, by compiling it?
[10:12] <ep> ok guys, sorry to be such a noob...   I did dpkg -i bzflag_2.0 and ran into a dependency problem libcurl3 (>= 7.13.0-1)  my version is only 7.12 and its up to date.   So what is my next step?
[10:12] <Hieronymus> Belutz: yes, or you could use available .deb or rpm packages
[10:12] <glyph_> ah dose it down load ActiveX
[10:12] <Hieronymus> Belutz: try them, anyway
[10:13] <Belutz> ok
[10:13] <Tuxist> let do it
[10:13] <tritium> ep, if you use apt with repositories, it handles dependencies for you.  Why are you downloading it manually?
[10:13] <Tuxist> HappyFool you have make my pakage
[10:13] <tombs> please, what package do I need to record .mp3 on those little mp3 players?
[10:14] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i don't understand, sorry...
[10:14] <Kyral> tombs, like an iPod?
[10:14] <Tuxist> you compile you make .deb
[10:14] <glyph_> foamy dose Point2play download ActiveX (got Steam to work almost needs an ActiveX control)
[10:14] <HappyFool> Tuxist: you've totally lost me
[10:14] <glyph_> in wine that is
[10:14] <ep> tritium, I got used to version 2.x on my last OS.... universie only has version 1.10 available.... Totally different game with diferent servers running. You'd have to be a bzflag junkie to understand:)
[10:14] <tombs> Kyral, yes but not something so good, some player from "creative"
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know i'm not shure i never ran into the isshue
[10:14] <HappyFool> Tuxist: i haven't compiled anything... ?
[10:14] <Tuxist> go to hell
[10:15] <teferi_> oh man, bzflag is fun
[10:15] <tritium> Tuxist, cut it out
[10:15] <teferi_> every server in teh world has a totally different personally hacked version, though
[10:15] <thoreauputic> !conduct
[10:15] <ubotu> [conduct]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[10:15] <Tuxist> and get me the deb
[10:15] <glyph_> i shoud try Point2Play Teferi_ yesh it is
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Tuxist: I suggest you read the bot's URl
[10:15] <teferi_> we used to play it in one of the engineering labs when i was at RPI
[10:15] <ep> so anyway?
[10:15] <teferi_> i usually lost
[10:15] <tritium> Tuxist, please be polite, or you'll be escorted to the door...
[10:16] <glyph_> ah
[10:16] <Tuxist> no
[10:16] <ralc> is wine any good?
[10:16] <Belutz> is there any virtual machine software for linux?
[10:16] <Tuxist> not in the week please
[10:16] <hsledmout> ralc, wine is good for some things
[10:16] <ralc> hsledmout, games?
[10:16] <ep> with that in mind, is my question valid?
[10:16] <glyph_> ralc yes only for certian programs some dont work
[10:16] <hsledmout> ralc, no
[10:16] <anto9us> Belutz: qemu
[10:16] <Tuxist> on the weekend many devil mans with black wear bring to the door
[10:17] <hsledmout> ralc ^^ qemu
[10:17] <Tuxist> xen
[10:17] <Belutz> anto9us, thx !!
[10:17] <hsledmout> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo?highlight=%28qemu%29
[10:18] <G|immer> why does my FAT32 partition mount as an empty mount-point?
[10:19] <itz> if iwant to chmod an structure and want every files and folder within that structure to get same rules. what shall i use in that command line. tried to read man chmod but didnt understand it... prob due to my porr english
[10:19] <HappyFool> itz: the -R switch
[10:19] <HappyFool> itz: what do you want to chmod?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> G|immer: possibly your /etc/fstab line for it is wrong
[10:19] <sledmouth> chmod -R username path
[10:19] <itz> great
[10:19] <itz> thx
[10:19] <HappyFool> itz: please be careful ;) somebody chmod'ed /usr to 777 the other day, and got a very broken system
[10:19] <Seveas> eek
[10:20] <HappyFool> yeah, you said it. i told him to reinstall
[10:20] <Belutz> ok, guys i need to back to my lousy windows to finish my .NET apps...
[10:20] <itz> HappyFool, gonna use 775 in my warez structure... shouldnt be any problem i guess?
[10:20] <Belutz> thanks a bunch for all of you... have a nice day all...
[10:21] <HappyFool> itz: err. is warez in the lsb? ;)
[10:21] <Seveas> HappyFool, probably the best
[10:21] <G|immer> thoreauputic: brb, I will update XChat and then get back.
[10:21] <itz> lsb?
[10:21] <itz> HappyFool, lsb ?! use simple english /me bad :P
[10:21] <HappyFool> Seveas: yeah. i said *maybe* someone could mail him ls -lR for manual restoration -- then i found out there are ~ 100 000 files in /usr
[10:21] <Seveas> linux standard base
[10:21] <SDFH_Linux> how do i get gaim 1.4 for ubuntu?
[10:21] <HappyFool> itz: sorry, a silly joke
[10:22] <Seveas> HappyFool, /usr is indeed too big for that
[10:22] <thoreauputic> itz: there are usually very good reasons why the permissions are set as they are. Change them at your peril
[10:22] <Tuxist> or amarok 1.3 cvs
[10:22] <tombs> Kyral, do you know?
[10:23] <itz> thoreauputic, well since i made this structure....
[10:23] <eliUbuntu> anyone familiar with scp?
[10:23] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: its part of ssh
[10:23] <Druke> where is 'gnomerc' located
[10:23] <anto9us> eliUbuntu: I've used it a few times
[10:23] <mateo> i have just installed ubuntu 5.04, and im having truble configurin the screen resolution
[10:23] <Seveas> mateo: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:23] <nalioth> !resolution
[10:23] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Druke: ~/.gnomerc i think (note the dot)
[10:24] <Seveas> Druke, ~/.gnomerc
[10:24] <eliUbuntu> can you use it to place a file from your computer onto another? i have only used it visa versa
[10:24] <Druke> thanks
[10:24] <mateo> can anyone helpme?
[10:24] <HappyFool> who is ubotu's owner?
[10:24] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: that is what its for
[10:24] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: also 'sftp'
[10:24] <nalioth> HappyFool: cafuego
[10:24] <itz> I could have made the structure in /home%usr but i did it in /home/xxx and now i want my %usr to get full rights in it... so maybe i shouldnt do 775 but thats what i did now :D
[10:24] <eliUbuntu> so if i do: scp name@computer:/file /file
[10:24] <HappyFool> nalioth: hrm, ok. not on now, i guess?
[10:25] <eliUbuntu> that will take the file from my computer and place it on the other?
[10:25] <mateo> i have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didnt work
[10:25] <thoreauputic> eliUbuntu: no, wrong way round
[10:25] <Druke> so how does one edit ~/.gnomerc i am trying "gedit ~/.gnomerc"
[10:25] <nalioth> HappyFool: believe he's asleep atm
[10:25] <hno73> Did anyone try the new OpenCD+Ubuntu live CD yet?
[10:25] <hno73> http://www.theopencd.org/
[10:25] <akallos> can someone please give me an example of how to use sendmail?
[10:25] <nalioth> Druke: with a text editor
[10:25] <thoreauputic> eliUbuntu: scp /file user@other:/file
[10:26] <akallos> is it the same as telnet'ing to an smtp server?
[10:26] <eliUbuntu> ah! thanks thoreaupetic and nalioth
[10:26] <nalioth> akallos: you should never use telnet
[10:26] <nalioth> akallos: use ssh instead
[10:26] <akallos> yeah, but I mean, the syntax once I'm into sendmail is the same?
[10:27] <eliUbuntu> is it true that bsd is better than linux? some computer programmer claimed this
[10:27] <eliUbuntu> i found it hard to believe
[10:27] <thoreauputic> eliUbuntu: matter of usage and opinion
[10:27] <eliUbuntu> ok, thanks
[10:27] <thoreauputic> eliUbuntu: sometimes yes, sometimes no
[10:28] <akallos> mostly sometimes
[10:28] <G|immer> thoreauputic: back. i am opening the partition as type vfat and options iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[10:28] <nalioth> akallos: yes
[10:28] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: BSD and linux are two tools for similar purposes
[10:29] <akallos> nalioth: thanks, I'll try
[10:29] <thoreauputic> G|immer: I don't think fat32 recognises utf-8 but since I don't use windows I may be wrong
[10:29] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: depending on what you need your hardware to do, they both have strong points
[10:29] <Hieronymus> nalioth: linux is a kernel, bsd an os
[10:29] <Tuxist> bsd not linux all system tools from ubuntu must rewrite
[10:29] <teferi_> G|immer: it's not a good idea to mount with iocharset=utf8 for fat32
[10:30] <teferi_> G|immer: remember, fat32 is case-aware, but not case-sensitive normally
[10:30] <nalioth> Hieronymus: sorry
[10:30] <teferi_> if you mount with iocharset=fat32, it becomes case sensitive, and some things may behave oddly
[10:30] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: in my previous statements, substitute "gnu-linux" for "linux"
[10:30] <Aerebus> ok i'm freaking out here lol, my ubuntu system just crashed...it froze up, and i turned off the power button, now when it boots it says "non system disk or disk error, replace and strike any key when ready" how do i fix this?
[10:31] <G|immer> teferi: i got the setting from the web. But when it did not work, I removed it and put "rw,user,noauto" instead. and still did not work. lol
[10:31] <nalioth> Aerebus: your grub has gone away
[10:31] <Aerebus> o dear
[10:31] <Aerebus> what do i do?
[10:31] <teferi_> G|immer: that's another problem altogether...this is just advice for when you get it working...
[10:31] <nalioth> Aerebus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:31] <amittp> Hi, does anyone use php4+mysql+apache2  on ubuntu?
[10:31] <G|immer> teferi: I do not know if this matters, but when in windows i did use partition magic and reduced the cluster size to 8K instead of 16k!
[10:31] <Seveas> amittp, I do :)
[10:31] <Aerebus> nalioth i never installed windows...
[10:31] <teferi_> G|immer: irrelevant
[10:32] <anto9us> Aerebus: might be a silly question, there's no floppy disk in your floppy drive is there?
[10:32] <G|immer> teferi: so, am stuck then. hehe
[10:32] <Aerebus> no ;p
[10:32] <amittp> Seveas, do I have to install php4-mysql as well?
[10:32] <Aerebus> no cd in the cdrom either
[10:32] <Seveas> amittp, yes
[10:32] <eliUbuntu> can't you reinstall the grub with the cd you installed ubuntu with?
[10:32] <Moppin> Aerebus, that link nalioth is a decent read for restoring GRUB
[10:32] <Seveas> you will need libapache2-mod-php4 (that will drag in apache) and php4-mysql
[10:32] <Aerebus> i dont know if i can or not... i'm new to linux
[10:32] <amittp> Seveas, oh! and do u jknow if gdlib extension is present for php?
[10:32] <nalioth> Aerebus: but the procedure is the same for recovering grub
[10:33] <Seveas> amittp, package php4-gd
[10:33] <Tuxist> have smilies looks cool http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/emoticons/downloads/24482-Animated.tar.gz
[10:33] <Madpilot> amittp: check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[10:33] <Aerebus> nalioth, am i looking at the section called Recovering GRUB Manually?
[10:33] <amittp> Seveas, u were great help :) thanks so much
[10:33] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes
[10:33] <amittp> Madpilot, :) ty
[10:34] <needsomehelp> can someone with a good knowledge of ubuntu and linux help me in compiling mplayer please i keep getting errors when tryinig to compile
[10:34] <Madpilot> amittp: I ran thru those instructions a few days ago, now have a full LAMP system w/ Hoary.
[10:34] <Madpilot> amittp: and all locked up behind firestarter/iptables so I'm not open to the public...
[10:34] <thoreauputic> needsomehelp: why are you compiling mplayer when it is available from the multiverse repo ?
[10:34] <Seveas> needsomehelp, why do you want to compile it manually?
[10:34] <hondje> !resolution
[10:34] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:35] <amittp> Madpilot, thatss what i wanted :)
[10:35] <needsomehelp> simply because the .deb doesn't contain libm3lame support
[10:35] <Madpilot> !lamp
[10:35] <ubotu> Madpilot: I don't know
[10:35] <amittp> Madpilot, funnt, i didnt get nice result when i searched wiki
[10:36] <Madpilot> amittp: I've noticed that if you just search for "apache", for example, in the wiki you won't find that LAMP page
[10:36] <Madpilot> ubotu lamp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[10:36] <ubotu> Madpilot: okay
[10:37] <G|immer> If I want Outlook-like email and contacts functionality, and also import my outlook email, what should I use? Thunderbird?
[10:37] <teferi_> G|immer: i like evolution
[10:37] <needsomehelp> so any ideas?
[10:38] <amittp> Madpilot, hmm yeah same thing here
[10:38] <G|immer> teferi: hmm. did u compare it to Thunderbird?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> needsomehelp: what are the errors? chances are you are missing -dev libraries
[10:38] <G|immer> to=with
[10:39] <delire> needsomehelp: a good thing to do it closely read the dependencies for the application you are compiling. usually in 'INSTALL' or 'README'. make sure you install the *development libraries*. if, for instance they say you need "xvidcore4" then you would 'apt-cache search xvidcore4' and find it's development library libxvidcore4-dev.
[10:39] <teferi_> G|immer: i've used both
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Evolution is more Outlook-like than TB...
[10:39] <teferi_> evolution also has the advantage of being able to talk to an Exchange server
[10:39] <delire> needsomehelp: installing that will allow you to 'compile against' that library - hence providing xvidxore4 support in mplayer.
[10:39] <G|immer> ic. am not attached to the outlook-like thing as much as being able to import my emails and manage my contacts.
[10:40] <Tuxist> kontakt more outlook 2000 evolution more outlook 2003
[10:40] <teferi_> G|immer: evolution should do that
[10:40] <glyph_> hi
[10:40] <G|immer> i like that i can, and i do use it, put an image of the contact and notes in the notes field, for example.
[10:40] <Hieronymus> How do I mix 2 video files into 1 file?
[10:41] <glyph_> will trillian wine?
[10:41] <Tuxist> mainactor
[10:41] <delire> Tuxist: hehe isn't that extremely expensive?
[10:41] <Tuxist> demo
[10:41] <HappyFool> only if you don't pay... ah, never mind
[10:41] <needsomehelp> let me post what i have hang oon
[10:41] <needsomehelp> and i have been trying to do the reading as you stated
[10:41] <delire> Hieronymus: i would use 'kino'.
[10:41] <glyph_> opps
[10:41] <glyph_> hit the x
[10:41] <delire> needsomehelp: use a pastebin, don't post the output here.
[10:41] <G|immer> Hieronymus: VirtualDub I think.. but I used it on Windows. I believe it runs on Linux.
[10:42] <needsomehelp> yeah i knoow han gon
[10:42] <Hieronymus> kino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:42] <Hieronymus> kino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:42] <Hieronymus> kino: Depends: libquicktime1 (>= 0.9.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:42] <Hieronymus> great
[10:42] <Tuxist> http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml
[10:43] <delire> kino: did you apt-get update first?
[10:43] <delire> sorry hehe
[10:43] <delire> Hieronymus: did you apt-get update first?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Hieronymus: your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured
[10:43] <delire> or that, yes
[10:43] <Hieronymus> thoreauputic: yes, it includes breezy :p
[10:43] <delire> silly
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Hieronymus: ah well... all bets are off then ;)
[10:43] <anto9us> Hieronymus: sometimes 'cat file1.avi file2.avi > newfile.avi' works
[10:44] <delire> Hieronymus: you'll make a mess of your install. just like with all OS's it's best to move whole-version-to-whole-version.
[10:44] <G|immer> Tuxist: how to use the animated emoticons u suggested and/or where they are intented to be used?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Hieronymus: the only way to make that work safely is apt-pinning, and even then you are running risks
[10:45] <Tuxist> kopete cs version two clicks
[10:45] <needsomehelp> http://pastebin.com/311479 sorry for the delay have my girlfriend trying to chat me haha
[10:45] <Tuxist> easy to compile
[10:45] <delire> anto9us: hehe i'd like to see that actually work. what happens to the headers?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> needsomehelp: hey, get your priorities straight ;-)
[10:46] <delire> lol thoreauputic
[10:46] <anto9us> delire: as I say, sometimes it works
[10:46] <delire> anto9us: great, one for the record.
[10:46] <Tuxist> g|immer http://kopete.kde.org
[10:47] <needsomehelp> haha
[10:47] <amittp> Seveas, do u use gdlib with php4?
[10:47] <needsomehelp> well i'm here i'm just lost as to what to do next ;)
[10:47] <needsomehelp> thanks in advance
[10:47] <Aerebus> nalioth, ok it says Review your fstab and identify the location(s) of / and /boot/ whatdo i do here?
[10:48] <Aerebus> i got a terminal open and i did mkdir /mnt/work and /mkdir mnt/work/boot
[10:48] <nalioth> Aerebus: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/fstab"
[10:48] <shinu> anyone mind giving me the marillat repos? they dont seem to be on the ubuntuguide..
[10:48] <hondje> don't use marillat on ubuntu
[10:48] <hondje> use backports instead
[10:48] <Seveas> amittp, yes
[10:48] <nalioth> shinu: you were at the ubuntuguide? <shudder>
[10:48] <shinu> ok
[10:48] <kbrooks> shinu, marillat is incompatible with ubuntu
[10:49] <kbrooks> nalioth, shall i?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> needsomehelp: did ./configure complete without errors? this is make output is it not?
[10:49] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[10:49] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[10:49] <Seveas> amittp, for a nice example: www.ubuntu-nl.org/time?view=tb
[10:49] <shinu> why do ppl hate ubuntuguide so much? xD
[10:49] <zukalk> shinu, "Do not advise people to use marillat, Debian has moved on after the Hoary freeze and may/will cause dependency problems"
[10:49] <shinu> ok
[10:49] <shinu> ill remember that
[10:49] <nalioth> shinu: because it breaks ubuntu
[10:49] <needsomehelp> yeah
[10:49] <needsomehelp>  the ./configure worked fine
[10:49] <kbrooks> shinu, read ^^^^
[10:49] <El_Che> zukalk: it's already the case
[10:49] <Seveas> amittp, for a nice example: www.ubuntu-nl.org/time?view=techboard (this one is correct)
[10:49] <amittp> Seveas, nice :)
[10:50] <Ilomoga> Question: Do I have to press a "Order" button or something like that if I order some Ubuntu CDs?
[10:50] <amittp> Seveas, although gd.so is under /usr/lib/php4/20020429/gd.so, weird location
[10:50] <shinu> k
[10:50] <shinu> thanks everyone
[10:50] <SDFH_Linux> anyway to add more repositories other than the ones in the ubuntu guide/
[10:50] <Seveas> amittp, not too weird if you know th php packaging details :)
[10:51] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, ubuntuguide is bad
[10:51] <G|immer> Tuxist: ah. but I use gnome. Am sure i will find another use for them ;)
[10:51] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux,
[10:51] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[10:51] <delire> needsomehelp: i have to run. look into 'rtp' dev package. perhaps libccrtp-dev
[10:51] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[10:51] <Aerebus> nalioth, ok it says: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[10:51] <amittp> Seveas, i added extension=gd.so in php.ini, but wondering what should i set extension_dir  to
[10:51] <SDFH_Linux> Sevea where do i go then
[10:51] <MrMaDSeN> how do I install new themes from art.gnome.org?
[10:51] <kbrooks> everyone should use the ubuntuguide factoid.
[10:51] <Seveas> amittp, leave it as is
[10:51] <SDFH_Linux> Seveas where do i go then?
[10:52] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <needsomehelp> ok thanks will do
[10:52] <amittp> Seveas, commented or ./ ?
[10:52] <SDFH_Linux> k
[10:52] <Seveas> commented
[10:52] <Siropel> how come the ubuntu packages are not updated ? ... i mean ubuntu is still with firefox 1.0.2 when the latest is 1.0.4
[10:52] <Seveas> look at the bottom of php.ini
[10:52] <kbrooks> Siropel, they are.
[10:52] <thoreauputic> MrMaDSeN: download the theme and drag-drop it on to the themes dialog in gnome
[10:52] <amittp> okie
[10:52] <Seveas> Siropel, ff in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguide
[10:52] <kbrooks> Siropel, backported
[10:52] <Seveas> disguise*
[10:52] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: System > Rreferences > Themes
[10:53] <amittp> shoot :)
[10:53] <Seveas> all 1.0.4 security patches have been applied, but for package management reasons the version has been kept at 1.0.3
[10:53] <Seveas> 1.0.2 i mean
[10:53] <kbrooks> Seveas, should I make a factoid for that? :)
[10:54] <kbrooks> Seveas, the question has been asked many times
[10:54] <Siropel> that is confusing ...i droped ubuntu for that
[10:54] <El_Che> Seveas: true, but auto install of extensions is broken because of the "version"
[10:54] <Wa77z> sorry for repeating, but, I cant seem to install a new enviorment, i used synaptic and installed enlightenment. but i catn get it to show up in my session list
[10:54] <Seveas> El_Che: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[10:54] <nalioth> Seveas: actually, only the security has been bp'd into ff, it still is missing the .4 featuresets
[10:54] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: the factoid exists !firefox I believe
[10:54] <kbrooks> !firefox
[10:54] <shinu> thanks again everyone~
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[10:54] <Seveas> nalioth, that's what I said
[10:54] <yourghetek> getting a md5sum mismatch error and i cant install apache 2! http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/311483
[10:55] <El_Che> Seveas: I know that, but normal users are lost there
[10:55] <nalioth> Seveas: El_Che: i'm lost too
[10:55] <Seveas> El_Che, that's actually the fault of the lazy mozilla developers
[10:55] <nalioth> Seveas: El_Che: probably why i dont use ff
[10:55] <Madpilot> yourghetek: change the .us archive for one of the others.
[10:55] <eliUbuntu> ok, i tried: scp /filename name@computer:/file and i get this following error -> not a regular file
[10:55] <amittp> Seveas, ty :) that was no work
[10:55] <Wa77z> ok
[10:55] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: drop de /
[10:55] <kbrooks> Seveas and nalioth and El_Che: define "backported" and maybe the newbies can understand what it means ;)
[10:56] <Seveas> yourghetek, us.archive.ubuntu.com is b0rking
[10:56] <Seveas> use archive.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <kbrooks> just a idea
[10:56] <eliUbuntu> ok
[10:56] <Seveas> kbrooks, ack
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: you might have to use the gnome.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions as a template to make an entry
[10:56] <MrMaDSeN> nalioth: I just get File format is invalid
[10:56] <Madpilot> !backports
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:56] <yourghetek> Seveas: i did but it just went to us anyway
[10:56] <El_Che> backported means addings stuff from newer versions into older versions
[10:56] <Seveas> yourghetek, run an apt-get update :)
[10:56] <yourghetek> did
[10:56] <El_Che> it's meant to fix problems without adding new one
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: possibly enlightenment failed to make an entry
[10:56] <El_Che> a debian stable oldie :)
[10:56] <sledmouth> Wa77z: did u try restarting gdm?
[10:56] <Seveas> yourghetek, then paste your sources.list on a pastebin :)
[10:56] <Wa77z> alright, ive never done that before though
[10:57] <yourghetek> k
[10:57] <Wa77z> and yes i tried that
[10:57] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: if the packager of the theme doesnt stick to gnome standards, i'm pretty much lost on advising you
[10:57] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: did you extract the contents of any file you d/l?
[10:57] <G|immer> Firefox works much better under Linux than under Windows. Under Windows it has some slugishness and does not seem to handle its cache properly.
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: it's not too hard - use the existing file I mentioned and change the relevant bits. Point it at /usr/bin/enlightenment
[10:57] <cyphase> G|immer, big surprise
[10:57] <cyphase> :)
[10:58] <DanielHolth> Ah cache management, the bane of businesses everywhere.
[10:58] <yourghetek> errr...
[10:58] <Wa77z> kk
[10:58] <Wa77z> thanks
[10:58] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: same error comes up without the /
[10:58] <MrMaDSeN> nalioth: just drag & dropped from /tmp ?
[10:58] <yourghetek> Seveas: http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/311487
[10:58] <G|immer> cyphase: :) lol. In a way, I were. I though the code would be the same in both platforms. But perhaps some behaviors are because of windows.
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: you will need to use sudo to edit the file - and make sure you save it as enlightenment.desktop
[10:59] <uber_newber> hi im very new to linux and  im using a very only laptop, a tochiba tecra 8000, and i have a wireless lyknsis network adapter that i wanna install but i dont know
[10:59] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: what you want to doe exactly copy file to your home dir on the other server?
[10:59] <Wa77z> ya, alright , in my usr/share/xsessions/there is only a gnome folder
[10:59] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me out
[10:59] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: lets start over...where is the original tar.gz or whatever?
[10:59] <pankajg> hi
[10:59] <yourghetek> Seveas: and now its worse... http://nicecleanpastebin.pastebin.com/311488
[10:59] <pankajg> UNJOIN
[10:59] <pankajg> UNAJOIN
[10:59] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: i want to copy a file from a directory that under the home directory and put it on another computer
[10:59] <kbrooks> pankajg, hm?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: it isn't a "folder" - it's a file called gnome.desktop
[10:59] <uber_newber> hi im very new to linux and  im using a very only laptop, a tochiba tecra 8000, and i have a wireless lyknsis network adapter that i wanna install but i dont know
[10:59] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me out
[10:59] <Seveas> yourghetek, aight, i think i know what it is
[11:00] <kbrooks> uber_newber, don't repeat please
[11:00] <Seveas> yourghetek, apt-get clean
[11:00] <Seveas> and retry
[11:00] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: it is not direct in the home directory though. it is in a file under the home directory
[11:00] <cyphase> G|immer, Windows isn't exactly the best resource manager
[11:00] <uber_newber> sorry
[11:00] <kbrooks> uber_newber, be patient
[11:00] <uber_newber> k
[11:00] <cyphase> and Firefox isn't about to manage memory in assembler
[11:00] <Wa77z> yes i know its nota folder, so i edit the gnome file or make anew one
[11:00] <cyphase> ;)
[11:00] <jcoxon> uber_newber, i can help
[11:00] <Seveas> uber_newber, wiki.ubuntu.com/wifihowto
[11:00] <MrMaDSeN> nalioth: I extracted them to home/xxx/themes
[11:00] <uber_newber> thanx
[11:00] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: scp /home/filename server: or if you want to put it elsewhere : scp /home/filename server:/path/to/the/place
[11:00] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: that should be /home/xxx/.themes
[11:00] <kbrooks> MrMaDSeN, .themes
[11:00] <jcoxon> uber_newber, what exactly is the card?
[11:01] <uber_newber> it plugs into a usb port
[11:01] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: thanks i will try that out
[11:01] <uber_newber> is that wut u mean
[11:01] <kbrooks> .....
[11:01] <kbrooks> the model
[11:01] <jcoxon> uber_newber, plug it in, got to the terminal, type sudo lsusb
[11:01] <uber_newber> ok lemme get it brb
[11:02] <SDFH_Linux> whats the best ubuntu guide?
[11:02] <yourghetek> Seveas: ... i love you
[11:03] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:03] <jcoxon> reckon its a WUSB54G
[11:03] <musicman2059> The wiki
[11:03] <musicman2059> :P
[11:03] <yourghetek> how do i end an ssh gracefulkly?
[11:03] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[11:03] <test34> what are the minimum system requirements ?
[11:03] <yourghetek> *gracefully
[11:03] <Seveas> yourghetek, with exit
[11:03] <El_Che> yourghetek: exit
[11:03] <Seveas> or <ctrl>D
[11:03] <jcoxon> uber_newber, what does it look like, a big square with an aerial?
[11:03] <Seveas> or logout
[11:03] <yourghetek> thanks
[11:04] <Geist|Patrick> hi
[11:04] <kbrooks> test34, lots of RAM and hard drive space
[11:04] <uber_newber> ya, its rectangulared shaped, and blue and black
[11:04] <nalioth> yourghetek: type 'exit'
[11:04] <Geist|Patrick> i have problems with my (k)ubuntu install
[11:04] <DanielHolth> SSH can be exited by the escape sequence ~.
[11:04] <DanielHolth> SSH recognizes the ~ immediately after CR (enter/return) and a variety of letters make it do things. ~. exits ssh.
[11:04] <Siropel> is it safe to use ubuntu with the debian source list ?:D
[11:05] <jcoxon> uber_newber, what does it say on it?
[11:05] <DanielHolth> Much akin to ^]  on telnet
[11:05] <jcoxon> uber_newber, anything at all that'll give a clue
[11:05] <DanielHolth> or was it ^[
[11:05] <Geist|Patrick> i cant install synaptic
[11:05] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: this is what i tried -> scp home/myusername/fileDirectory/file server:/path/path2/file
[11:05] <Geist|Patrick> and my os languages is mixed up
[11:05] <jasoncohen> how do i clear all print jobs?
[11:05] <Geist|Patrick> parts german, parts english
[11:05] <jasoncohen> the print queue shows nothing but it won't stop printing
[11:05] <eliUbuntu> and this comes up -> not a regular file
[11:05] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: thy this: scp /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file server:/path/path2/file
[11:05] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: synaptic should be under system > admin > synaptic
[11:06] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: with the / before home
[11:06] <eliUbuntu> ok
[11:06] <Geist|Patrick> my basic system is Kubuntu...
[11:06] <uber_newber> jcxon> lyknsis wireless b usb network adapter
[11:06] <Geist|Patrick> it only has Kynotpic
[11:06] <hondje> !java
[11:06] <ubotu> methinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:06] <Geist|Patrick> but it lacks of synoptic, which IMO has the better handling :/
[11:06] <uber_newber> brb
[11:06] <moire> hi, can somebody help building wine?
[11:07] <El_Che> moire: is it not in the repositories?
[11:07] <jcoxon> uber_newber, on the back does it say WUSB11 anywhere?
[11:07] <glyph_> How do I get Kilk
[11:07] <moire> El_Che: yes it is, but i try to build from sources
[11:07] <jcoxon> uber_newber, and i'm assuming its a 'linksys'
[11:07] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: same problem. maybe this helps. the error states -> /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file: not a regular file
[11:08] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: can you give me the output of this command: ls -la /home/myusername/fileDirectory/file
[11:08] <glyph_> is any one gonna answer my question?
[11:08] <nalioth> glyph_: perhaps nobody knows what kilk is?
[11:09] <hondje> my magic 8-ball says 'maybe'
[11:09] <El_Che> glyph_: sorry, I don't know kilk
[11:09] <glyph_> could be its a KDE app
[11:09] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: its a long output since there a lot of files in it
[11:09] <Geist|Patrick> why doesnt synoptic fails to install here?
[11:09] <uber_newber> ya lyknsis
[11:09] <Seveas> glyph_, try #kubuntu
[11:09] <glyph_> ok
[11:09] <hondje> kilk or klik
[11:09] <eliUbuntu> dont dare to post it on the chat... did that once before by accident and the people were not happy
[11:09] <uber_newber> wsb11 v.2.8
[11:10] <Siropel> is it safe to use ubuntu with the debian source list ?:D
[11:10] <nalioth> Siropel: if you want a broken ubuntu
[11:10] <jcoxon> uber_newber, okay one sec i'll tell you the driver
[11:10] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: scp is made to transfer folders corret?
[11:10] <Siropel> nalioth but there are aplications that are not in the ubuntu repo ...
[11:11] <nalioth> Siropel: do you have all the repos enabled?
[11:11] <uber_newber> k
[11:12] <Siropel> nalioth yes
[11:12] <nalioth> Siropel: what program are you after?
[11:12] <Siropel> nalioth mc :D
[11:12] <Siropel> as in midnight commander :D
[11:12] <nalioth> Siropel: mc is in universe, i believe
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Siropel: mc is in the repos
[11:12] <nalioths_dog> Siropel: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:13] <nalioths_dog> Siropel: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:13] <Siropel> i`ll look it up :D
[11:13] <Siropel> i know how to add them :D
[11:13] <Geist|Patrick> plz... i need help guys :(
[11:13] <Geist|Patrick> i cant figure out why it doesnt work :/
[11:13] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: aaah
[11:13] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: it's a directory?
[11:14] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: yes
[11:14] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: scp -r dir server:/dir
[11:14] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: are you using a terminal to install synaptic?
[11:14] <eliUbuntu> oh
[11:14] <Geist|Patrick> ja
[11:14] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: and what error does it give?
[11:14] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: you can also do this graphically through nautilus (gnome) or konqueror (kde)
[11:14] <Geist|Patrick> a moment...
[11:14] <jcoxon> uber_newber, okay i've found the driver
[11:15] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: if its more than one line, paste it or use #flood
[11:15] <uber_newber> k
[11:15] <jcoxon> uber_newber, want me to walk you through how to install them
[11:15] <uber_newber> yes please
[11:15] <Siropel> would you put ubuntu in the category of one of the best distros ever ?
[11:15] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: success =-D
[11:15] <eliUbuntu> El_Che: thanks
[11:15] <xfSx> anyone know why i don't get any menus when i right click the desktop in gnome? i installed gnome packages manually, which did i miss?
[11:15] <El_Che> eliUbuntu: no problem
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Siropel: you'll get a biased answer in #ubuntu ;)
[11:16] <Geist|Patrick> where can i paste it , nalioth
[11:16] <Geist|Patrick> its about 20lines
[11:16] <mbirkis> is there any way to get rar support into the archive manager in ubuntu?
[11:16] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: come to #flood
[11:16] <El_Che> ?
[11:16] <Geist|Patrick> and its german...
[11:16] <dh0> hello. i was intalling libjpeg62-dev and i had a MD5sum mismatch. i tried cleaning a re downloading. same problem. what should i do?
[11:16] <Geist|Patrick> :/
[11:16] <El_Che> sorry
[11:17] <Seveas> mbirkis, you will have to install the rar package whichc costs money
[11:17] <thoreauputic> mbirkis: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree from multiverse repo
[11:17] <Seveas> thoreauputic, afaik archive-manager needs rar too
[11:17] <Seveas> (but I might be wrong)
[11:17] <thoreauputic> ah, OK
[11:17] <mbirkis> thoreauputic: i did it... but it doesn't work within the archive manager
[11:17] <bimberi> dh0: There are issues with the us mirror at present ...
[11:17] <bimberi> !usmirror
[11:17] <ubotu> usmirror is, like, if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <eliUbuntu> dh0: its a repository probelm. are you using us.* links for the repository?
[11:17] <Geist|Patrick> thats my next problem on the todo list...
[11:17] <thoreauputic> mbirkis: OK looks like Seveas is right then
[11:17] <nalioth> dh0: edit all the instances of us. out of your sources.list (as in you'll end up with archive.ubuntu, instaed of us.archive.bla)
[11:18] <mbirkis> thoreauputic: it only works command line :(
[11:18] <Geist|Patrick> my gui is totally mixed with english and german parts :/
[11:18] <dh0> thanks bimberi and eliUbuntu
[11:18] <eliUbuntu> no problem :)
[11:18] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: you are using a default kubuntu?
[11:18] <Geist|Patrick> yep
[11:18] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, paste the ouptut of locale -a on a pastebin
[11:18] <bimberi> dh0: yw :)
[11:19] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: then try this: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[11:19] <GigaClon> 00:00.624: Couldn't load driver OSS: RageSound_OSS: Couldn't open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, is there a way to see how this is busy
[11:19] <GigaClon> cause I can't find it
[11:19] <dh0> lol, i did that and then ran apt-get update and had tons of errors. looked back and realized i deleted "us" and not "us."
[11:19] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh - big download to fix locales on kubuntu - is that necessary?
[11:20] <Seveas> GigaClon, esd is hogging it
[11:20] <nalioth> thoreauputic: no, he has lots of dependencys for synaptic
[11:20] <bimberi> dh0: :)
[11:20] <Seveas> GigaClon, teach the program you are using to use esd instead of OSS
[11:20] <Geist|Patrick> argh... pastebin... i need a link
[11:20] <thoreauputic> nalioth: ah I see
[11:20] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, see topic
[11:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=64 <---= read the last entry everyone
[11:20] <GigaClon> what is esd
[11:20] <kbrooks> ?
[11:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> reviews welcome ^_^
[11:21] <GigaClon> Seveas: how am i do to that
[11:21] <Seveas> enlightenment sound daemon, the solution Ubuntu uses for sound
[11:21] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, "everyone"?
[11:21] <Tuxist> eat smoke doener
[11:21] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[11:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well everyone that wants too
[11:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> your choice ^_^
[11:21] <Seveas> GigaClon, which program are you using
[11:21] <dh0> w00t. it worked
[11:21] <GigaClon> StepMania
[11:21] <Seveas> GigaClon, hmm, don't know that one
[11:21] <Seveas> try killall esd before runnign it
[11:22] <Seveas> you'll lose all other sounds then
[11:22] <MrMaDSeN> what do I put login themes?
[11:22] <GigaClon> Seveas: think pydance but better
[11:22] <MrMaDSeN> *where*
[11:22] <Geist|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/499
[11:22] <Seveas> Mr_Smiley, look at http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[11:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas you should read the last entry too ^_^
[11:22] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, that one was for you
[11:22] <GigaClon> how do start it back up when it is done?
[11:23] <Seveas> GigaClon, esd &
[11:23] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you need an account on the forums to read it. Ridiculous...
[11:23] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, :|
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know but it's worth it
[11:23] <Seveas> your locale is FUBAR :)
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or i could pastebin it for ya
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if you want
[11:23] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:23] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, please do :)
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[11:24] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, and only enable locales you actually use
[11:24] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, and put the output of locale (with no arguments) on the wiki too, together with the contents of /etc/environment
[11:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for all those who arnt regesterd with the forums but would like to read this entry here
[11:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/311504
[11:26] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, thnx for the shout :)
[11:26] <Geist|Patrick> urm...
[11:26] <Geist|Patrick> what should i do first?
[11:26] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, whatever you like :)
[11:27] <Geist|Patrick> well.. which command is starting the language setup
[11:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas anytime man you deserve it ^_^
[11:27] <sky_monkey007> has anyone here tried aptitude instead of synaptic?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I agree it's absurd! We can't read an entry like this? What the hell are they thinking?
[11:27] <Geist|Patrick> i  forgot it again ;(
[11:27] <deadcat> someone post me the line with the transset and xcompmgr from sources.list please.
[11:27] <kbrooks> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:27] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:27] <SDFH_Linux> how often do they update the ubuntu repos?
[11:27] <Seveas> deadcat: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:27] <Wa77z> sweet !, i got enlightenment working, but, i really just dont know how to use it that well
[11:27] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, uh. why?
[11:28] <deadcat> Seveas: thanks
[11:28] <kbrooks> !sources.list
[11:28] <ubotu> I don't know, kbrooks
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Wa77z: the edit worked then?
[11:28] <Wa77z> now on to bigger problems, anyone know how to fix sound ?
[11:28] <Wa77z> and yes thoreauputic it works
[11:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just felt that it was about time that someone said thank you to the people who help everyone
[11:28] <kbrooks> heh.
[11:28] <SDFH_Linux> when breezy becomes final do we have to reinstall?
[11:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and seeing as i diden't see it before on the forums i figured that i would do it ^_^
[11:29] <cmatheson> hey anyone tried out the courier mail stuff?  i see that the version is only .47, but it seems like a sweet system, how stable is it? (i'm wanting to run it on a very large system...)
[11:29] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, no
[11:29] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, hoary is frozen'
[11:29] <Geist|Patrick> Seveas: now i have 4 strings... en_us utf8/iso**-1 de_de utf8 and iso**-15
[11:29] <Hieronymus> SDFH_Linux: you can update
[11:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu even got a mention in my blog he's funnie ^_^ for a bot
[11:29] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ChurcH_of_FoamY
[11:29] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, no one will force you to update
[11:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> see lol
[11:29] <SDFH_Linux> so we can easily update to breezy
[11:29] <Hieronymus> SDFH_Linux: yes
[11:29] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, not even a program
[11:30] <Hieronymus> SDFH_Linux: change a few settings, download a few hundred megs, that's all
[11:30] <SDFH_Linux> k
[11:30] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, ditch the ISO-* locales
[11:30] <kbrooks> heh
[11:30] <SDFH_Linux> when is breezy suppose to be frozen?
[11:30] <kbrooks> SDFH_Linux, bugger all, i dunno
[11:30] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: october 10
[11:30] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: nice gesture, man - thanks :)
[11:30] <Wa77z> whats the command to se if also is working ?
[11:30] <Wa77z> alsa**
[11:31] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, feature freeze has started already
[11:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thoreauputic anytime man ^_^ you guys works so hard you deserve it ^_^
[11:31] <SDFH_Linux> neat
[11:31] <ed1t> where do i get xmessage from?
[11:31] <Hieronymus> ChurcH_of_FoamY: link to your blogpost?
[11:31] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux, the various stages of freezing are described on the wiki
[11:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[11:31] <SDFH_Linux> k
[11:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Hieronymus http://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=64
[11:31] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: had a gigle about your monk reference - if only you knew... heheh
[11:31] <Geist|Patrick> how do i enable the german stuff now
[11:31] <Geist|Patrick> where can i switch?
[11:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thoreauputic lol i hope i diden't offend you i wasen't tryin too >.<
[11:32] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, you can set the locale you prefer with that dpkg-reconfigure
[11:32] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, but unfortunately not all programs have german translations yet
[11:32] <Geist|Patrick> i did, but my interface is still mixed up
[11:32] <Geist|Patrick> kde menu is english
[11:32] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not at all - it's funny for reasons I won't discuss here :)
[11:32] <Geist|Patrick> but it should be german i guess
[11:32] <Wa77z> sudo alsa  ?
[11:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:32] <Seveas> you need to restart X for changes to take effect
[11:33] <Geist|Patrick> k... i'll do it later
[11:33] <Geist|Patrick> can't i switch the languages on the fly?
[11:33] <dell500> what's a good pdf viewer?? i was wondering if anything had the pages on the side of the document
[11:33] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, yes
[11:33] <Geist|Patrick> how?
[11:33] <sledmouth> asdf
[11:33] <sledmouth> sdf
[11:33] <Seveas> you can set environment variables like: export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[11:34] <nalioth> dell500: evince
[11:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !distrowatch
[11:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ChurcH_of_FoamY
[11:34] <Seveas> or simply start a single program with a specified locale like: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 firefox
[11:34] <Geist|Patrick> Seveas: which file contains them?
[11:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> looking for the distrowatch boards
[11:34] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, /etc/environment
[11:34] <Geist|Patrick> k
[11:34] <Wa77z> aight, is there aknown problem with alsa and ATI IXP sound cards
[11:34] <GigaClon> Seveas:  is ALSA similarly "inflicted"?
[11:34] <Geist|Patrick> so there is no alt+shift and the whole interface switches?
[11:34] <Seveas> GigaClon, indeed
[11:34] <crimsun> Wa77z: use snd_atiixp from alsa-source in universe
[11:35] <crimsun> !tell Wa77z about alsa-source
[11:35] <SDFH_Linux> how can you get quicktime files to play
[11:35] <Seveas> SDFH_Linux: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:35] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: libquicktime
[11:35] <Seveas> somewhere over there it is mentioned
[11:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[11:37] <dell500> sudo apt-get install evince will put it in the menu right?
[11:37] <kbrooks> im not moving anywhere :P
[11:37] <Seveas> dell500, yes
[11:37] <nalioth> dell500: it should, i always run it from command line
[11:37] <Seveas> under graphics
[11:37] <kbrooks> man. i like this
[11:37] <dell500> aw ok
[11:37] <dell500> got it, thanks
[11:37] <kbrooks> i faked the windows
[11:37] <kbrooks> interface
[11:37] <nalioth> kbrooks: xpde?
[11:37] <Geist|Patrick> ok... the language problem will i solve later...
[11:38] <Geist|Patrick> how do i install S ynoptic now?
[11:38] <kbrooks> nalioth, uh no
[11:38] <Geist|Patrick> it still fails in the console
[11:38] <kbrooks> nalioth, talking gnome move around
[11:38] <Seveas> synaptic is a GUI application
[11:38] <Seveas> from the terminal you start it with sudo synaptic
[11:38] <Geist|Patrick> it failed to install
[11:39] <Geist|Patrick> necessary files dont install :/
[11:39] <Seveas> huh...
[11:39] <kbrooks> ok
[11:39] <nalioth> Seveas: Geist|Patrick was trying to apt-get synaptic (he's running default kubuntu)
[11:39] <kbrooks> i'll ss this...
[11:39] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror?
[11:39] <nalioths_dog> Geist|Patrick: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:39] <pepsix> is ubuntu-desktop _everything_
[11:39] <pepsix> ?
[11:39] <Hieronymus> pepsix: no
[11:40] <pepsix> oh, cause i broke my system and ive almost fixed it
[11:40] <Hieronymus> pepsix: it's the desktop installation. Gnome with applications for basic desktop usage
[11:40] <Geist|Patrick> synoptic output
[11:40] <Geist|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/500
[11:40] <pepsix> hrm
[11:40] <pepsix> what would be the rest of the system than?
[11:40] <Geist|Patrick> bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert. <-- missing file
[11:40] <KlaasV> Hello all, I got myself a new nvidia graphics. The card which I am using right now is also a nvidia card + nvidia driver. But I was wondering if there are any problems when I switch the cards, because I never done this before on a linux OS. And do I need to uninstall the nvidia driver before I switch the cards?
[11:40] <Wa77z> is there a tool to convert avit o dvd for linux ?
[11:40] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, please disable backports...
[11:41] <Geist|Patrick> what are backports?
[11:41] <The_Vox> KlaasV: just shut down the computer, change cards, boot, enjoy your new card
[11:41] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[11:42] <kbrooks> ok :P
[11:42] <kbrooks> good
[11:42] <kbrooks> now to show the ss :)
[11:42] <Wa77z> crimsun, that bot confused the Sh** out of me, maybe u could elaborate ?
[11:42] <parabolize> I updated my iriver player to the ifp890us-ums128 with a windows box but my ubuntu box is still getting a error with dmesg. The player is working as a ums device in windows... I'm lost.
[11:43] <thechitowncubs> www.thechitowncubs.com/test  , how can i position that now offline image to the very top right of my page?
[11:43] <Geist|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/501
[11:43] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, wrong channel :)
[11:43] <Crutonman> Hey, is there anyway to bypass an error like this ? "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xfce4-taskbar-plugin/xfce4-taskbar-plugin_0.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:43] <Crutonman>   MD5Sum mismatch
[11:43] <Seveas> !usmirror
[11:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, usmirror is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <Crutonman> "
[11:43] <musicman2059> anyone here know of a good GIF animator tool?
[11:43] <thechitowncubs> Seveas: any channel recommendations?
[11:44] <Seveas> Crutonman, read what ubotu said
[11:44] <Crutonman> alright cool, thanks
[11:44] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, no idea :)
[11:44] <kbrooks> now to....
[11:44] <Hieronymus> !forget usmirror
[11:44] <kbrooks> erm
[11:44] <ubotu> i forgot usmirror, Hieronymus
[11:44] <kbrooks> !unforget usmirror
[11:44] <ubotu> kbrooks: Successfully recovered 'usmirror'.  Have fun now.
[11:44] <kbrooks> essential, Hieronymus
[11:45] <^thehatsrule^> ...
[11:45] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/502
[11:45] <kbrooks> canned answers are important
[11:45] <Seveas> use that as your sources.list
[11:45] <Hieronymus> !usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <ubotu> ...but usmirror is already something else...
[11:45] <pepsix> so what packages contain the whole base system?
[11:45] <pepsix> ubuntu-base?
[11:45] <Hieronymus> !forget usmirror
[11:45] <ubotu> i forgot usmirror, Hieronymus
[11:45] <Hieronymus> !usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <TobiasFar> ubuntu doen't boot corectly here....dns doen't work, kdm starts(no mouse there), gnome doesn't start after login
[11:45] <Hieronymus> !usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:45] <kbrooks> Seveas, ?
[11:45] <Hieronymus> !usmirror
[11:45] <ubotu> methinks usmirror is sort of broken. If you experience problems with the us mirror, swap us.archive.ubuntu.com for archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <Wa77z> correction, my sound does work, just nor for apps
[11:46] <Seveas> !forget usmirror
[11:46] <ubotu> i forgot usmirror, Seveas
[11:46] <Seveas> usmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <kbrooks> Seveas, what did he do?
[11:46] <GigaClon> !GigaClon is cheesy grits
[11:46] <ubotu> GigaClon: okay
[11:46] <Seveas> Hieronymus, don't just change perfectly fine entries
[11:46] <kbrooks> GigaClon!
[11:46] <Discipulus> Why isn't the US mirror working?
[11:46] <Geist|Patrick> ok
[11:46] <kbrooks> !forget GigaClon
[11:46] <ubotu> i forgot gigaclon, kbrooks
[11:46] <kbrooks> dont
[11:46] <Seveas> Discipulus, it has errors
[11:46] <Discipulus> +q ?
[11:46] <Geist|Patrick> now apt-get udate i guess
[11:47] <GigaClon> ok
[11:47] <pepsix> ubotu is noisy :P
[11:47] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, correct :)
[11:47] <ubotu> I don't know, pepsix
[11:47] <kbrooks> dont. play. with. the. bot.
[11:47] <pepsix> exactly
[11:47] <Geist|Patrick> whats next?
[11:47] <Seveas> apt-get install synaptic :)
[11:48] <Wa77z> ona  1-10 scale, how hard is it to build ur own kernel so it has support for APic- mode in bios
[11:49] <str> Hi there... anyone with a soundcard realtek AC97?
[11:49] <Wa77z> i
[11:49] <nalioth> Wa77z: that is a subjective question
[11:49] <Wa77z> i dont know
[11:49] <Wa77z> im not sure what u mean by subjective
[11:49] <pepsix> twas a bumpy ride to breezy, but i made it
[11:49] <pepsix> :D
[11:50] <rwabel> hi
[11:50] <nalioth> Wa77z: for some of us, making a kernel is something we do b4 breakfast, while others hear 'kernel' and start looking at soldiers
[11:50] <Geist|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/503
[11:50] <rwabel> anyone an idea how I can fix that: Failed to start message bus: Failed to open /etc/dbus-1/session.conf: No such file or directory
[11:50] <kbrooks> pepsix, note we dont support breezy
[11:50] <Wa77z> lmao
[11:50] <rwabel> I've already tried with --reinstall
[11:50] <pepsix> kbrooks, and?
[11:50] <Wa77z> well, it is something I must learn
[11:50] <nalioth> Wa77z: there are many good howtos, via google
[11:50] <nalioth> Wa77z: start at www.tldp.org
[11:51] <Wa77z> aight, nothing i prolly couldnt have found already, i just felt like procrastonating
[11:51] <Wa77z> is that spelled right ?
[11:51] <Geist|Patrick> well it didnt helped
[11:51] <nalioth> Wa77z: is whut spelt write?
[11:52] <Wa77z> procrastonating ?
[11:52] <Wa77z> its my first time typin that out i think
[11:52] <nalioth> Wa77z: we don't care, as long as you are understood
[11:52] <kbrooks> that isnt right
[11:52] <Mingo> I have following question, is there a icq client available for ubuntu?
[11:52] <Wa77z> i knew it
[11:52] <kbrooks> but we dont care.....
[11:52] <nalioth> Mingo: yes, gaim
[11:52] <kbrooks> ;)
[11:52] <Mingo> thanks :)
[11:53] <Mingo> And I can use every "debian package" with ubuntu?
[11:53] <Discipulus> is there anything good from converting a .mp3 to a .ogg ?
[11:53] <nalioth> Mingo: if you want a broken ubuntu
[11:53] <Mingo> no
[11:53] <nalioth> Discipulus: you will lose sound quality doing that
[11:53] <Geist|Patrick> Discipulus: only if u want loose soundquality
[11:53] <Discipulus> oh
[11:53] <Discipulus> damn
[11:53] <Discipulus> alright
[11:53] <Discipulus> I won't do it then :-P
[11:53] <nalioth> Discipulus: better to rip straight to ogg
[11:54] <Geist|Patrick> or buy it as ogg... all**mp3.*o*
[11:54] <Geist|Patrick> ;) ;)
[11:54] <nalioth> Geist|Patrick: do they sell ogg music?
[11:54] <itz> i cant change sudo password?
[11:55] <Geist|Patrick> i stil have not account there
[11:55] <Geist|Patrick> but they sell per MB
[11:55] <Seveas> itz, sudo password == your password
[11:55] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows if google is working ok?
[11:55] <Geist|Patrick> they encode in quality and format of ur choice
[11:55] <BockBilbo> i cannot connect to their site
[11:55] <itz> Seveas, doesnt help... still old password
[11:55] <Geist|Patrick> coze i have no creditcard i will need paypal
[11:55] <Eden> yep
[11:55] <nalioth> itz: no, use YOUR password with sudo
[11:55] <Igg-man> BockBilbo: google seems fine here
[11:55] <Geist|Patrick> but i actually have no time to make one account
[11:55] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:55] <Eden> Google works cool!
[11:55] <itz> Seveas, shall i somehow define what usr i should change password to
[11:56] <BockBilbo> wierd... doesnt work here
[11:56] <Madpilot> google works great here...
[11:56] <Igg-man> BockBilbo: Do other sites work?
[11:56] <BockBilbo> yep
[11:56] <cut0ff> hi there
[11:56] <itz> nalioth, i cant have a special password for sudp?
[11:56] <Seveas> itz, for the user who uses sudo...
[11:56] <BockBilbo> neverming, after like 10 attemps it worked
[11:56] <Igg-man> BockBilbo: Hmm... might be a routing issue at your ISP perhaps
[11:56] <Seveas> itz, no
[11:56] <BockBilbo> its wierd though
[11:56] <itz> :(
[11:56] <BockBilbo> Igg-man, yes
[11:56] <Igg-man> BockBilbo: tracepath or traceroute show anything?
[11:56] <itz> yeah i would like to have a special password for sudo....
[11:57] <Madpilot> how google works (really!): http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
[11:57] <BockBilbo> Igg-man, its fixed
[11:57] <Igg-man> BockBilbo: what was it?
[11:57] <Madpilot> itz: you don't need a special sudo pw, that's pretty much the point of sudo...
[11:58] <Igg-man> itz: perhaps you can use 'su' instead
[11:58] <Geist|Patrick> what shall i do now
[11:58] <Geist|Patrick> i have no idea how to fix that issue
[11:58] <BockBilbo> Igg-man, no idea
[11:58] <BockBilbo> but it didnt work like for 5 minutes
[11:58] <BockBilbo> quite wierd
[11:58] <zyrr> hello, i have mounted my windows fs now, and i can acces it with root rights from teminal, but not from the file lister because i do not have permissions, what should i do
[11:58] <itz> Madpilot,  but if i want a user to not have sudo option shall i chmod sudo or something then?
[11:59] <nalioth> itz: no, you have that user in a restricted group
[11:59] <mm23> I think there's problems with the us.archive ubuntu repositories
[11:59] <Seveas> zyrr, add umask=0000 to the options in /etc/fstab
[11:59] <mm23> if I apt-get anything from them I get missing package errors and MD5 Sum mismatch errors
[11:59] <nalioth> mm23: there is
[11:59] <Seveas> !usmirror
[11:59] <Igg-man> zyrr: how did you mount it?
[11:59] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know
[11:59] <nalioth> !usrepos
[11:59] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:59] <itz> nalioth, ok...  hmm still i think to have possiblity to have an special sudo password would be nice
[11:59] <Madpilot> itz: I think you need to go to System --> Admin... --> Users & Groups
[11:59] <Seveas> usmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <mm23> just changing it to archive.ubuntu fixes it
[12:00] <Seveas> ubotu usmirror is  if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:00] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[12:00] <zyrr> igg-man> mount -t ntfs
[12:00] <Seveas> there