=== sabdfl [~mark@sabdfl.silver.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === goedson [~goedson@BHE040233.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chrissturm [~chris@83-65-246-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dr88dr88 [~gerrit@h174040.upc-h.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === doko [~doko@a130-233-5-210.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ealden [~ealden@219.90.94.70] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-100.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] good night everybody [01:25] night === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.195.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jewel [~jewel@cpe-66-87-25-252.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === video-toresbe is now known as toresbe === skora [~skora@69-173-194-127.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex se va a mimir, tamn [02:00] dholbach: ping [02:00] bah, he left [02:00] whiprush: ping === syndicate is now known as ajf === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK is now known as Gman_ === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] hi [02:17] is there a way, as upstream maintainer, to be CC by default on some component in ubuntu bugzilla ? === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F4CBD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] hub: I know you can add yourself to notifies for a certain bug [02:30] schweeb: yeah; but I'm thinking about all new bugs for a component I'm upstream [02:30] I know you can do that with admin rights in bugzilla [02:31] hub: ask mdz, probably === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-224-47.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] Will the hal patches for cups make it into breezy? === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.200.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] Wouldn't a LTSP port to Ubuntu be NEAT? [02:57] (thin clients boot Ubuntu over the network which autodetects hardware using current liveCD tech) [02:57] (but then mount remote nfs /) [02:57] that would be what mdz's currently doing [02:57] Oh. Really? [02:58] I'm smrt. [02:58] ltsp | 0.43 | breezy | source [02:58] wasabi, the future versions of LTSP are going to be built on Ubuntu === Kamion steals and waves mdz's retroactive feature request satisfaction wand [02:59] Burgundavia, that's what I mean. [02:59] Burgundavia, that's slick. One of my current complaints with LTSP was that it was like a little seperatly maintained chroot thingy. [02:59] But having that itself be Ubuntu is pretty cool. [03:00] it still has to be a separately-maintained chroot, but it gets easier to maintain [03:00] ideally, you automate the maintenance [03:01] Kamion: shit man, can I borrow that wand? [03:01] daniels: you're not getting out of xorg work that easily [03:01] damnit! [03:01] i uploaded -35, what more do you want from me? [03:01] blood?? [03:02] Kamion: 675,844,096.... I wonder if maybe it's time to reset the i386 images.. [03:02] or better yet, maybe I should really deploy sladen's hack [03:02] er, code [03:02] -36 is coming as soon as I've fixed symlink.sh to put Xvlib.h and XvMClib.h in the right spots === lamont puts that on his todo list for this week [03:02] daniels: it's rude to upload faster that we can build, you know... [03:03] then again, my buildd is walking through the gcc-* landmine field, should take it most of the day [03:03] lamont: funny, I could've sworn you were on my case all week to upload NOW, DAMNIT :P [03:03] lamont: i386 images don't need reset, surely? [03:03] daniels: the first time [03:03] Kamion: doh [03:03] only the 64-bit images ever need reset === Rotund [~joe@67.96.45.122] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] Does LTSP handle session reestablishment? [03:04] Oh, LTSP is remote X server isn't it. [03:04] Which doesn't even have that. [03:04] =( === lamont grumbles [03:04] xmove. [03:05] help me kamion-kenobi. [03:05] hrm... actually, I can just fetch the tarball myself. [03:06] xmove is the way of the future [03:06] haha xmome is cool [03:06] but way to hard to use. [03:06] And it screws so much up [03:07] lamont: ? [03:07] it does? [03:07] You are talking about the little xmove app right? not some new extension or something, right? [03:07] oh my god, I love zsh [03:07] Kamion: nm.. braindead here === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-100.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] thought something wasn't mirrored, turns out I can't type pathnames in correctly [03:08] I'd like some sort of cool LTSP roaming thing... where you logged into LTSP desktop, it went out and found current login sessions on terminal servers across the network and dropped you at your current one. [03:09] wasabi: about the little app, yeah [03:09] Me and a friend are talking a lot abouta business plan to build and sell thin clients and server setups. [03:09] So I'm talkative. [03:11] but even zsh can't protect me from stupidity [03:11] it should know that when I type "cvs diff -u 'Add Xvlib.h, change soversion to 1.0.0.'", I mean "cvs ci -m '...'" [03:11] haha [03:11] daniels: at least it didn't involve rm -rf * === bob2 only ever uses shell history for that [03:11] lamont: it prompts me on that : [03:11] :) [03:12] 'dude, are you *sure* you want to remove everything?' [03:12] bob2: shell history is a wonderful thing [03:12] except when I do the same commit 3 times in a row, with no changes between them [03:14] heh === bob2 blames bzr somehow === rob^ [~rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] does X work today? :) [03:25] haven't updated anything in two weeks, this is going to be fun [03:25] i *think* it works [03:25] no-one's bitched incessantly at me yet [03:25] so I assuem so [03:26] http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/screenshot.png - I love the new nautilus [03:26] Kamion: any clue what kernel we're putting in the d-i install image for ia64? === slomo [~slomo@p5487F222.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:27] daniels, for -36 you should build a remote terminate button in, so that when people complain about it not working, you can press the big red button [03:27] anyway, time for this one to go home [03:27] wow [03:27] that nautilus looks nice [03:27] AndyFitz: hot [03:27] Burgundavia: good plan [03:27] having it in list/tree view [03:27] and have the location bar that the same time seems a bit busy [03:28] http://thunar.xfce.org/wiki/media/ui/suggestion-20050320/shortcuts_buttons.png [03:28] that is what I want [03:28] yeah I don't use the location bar at all by default === lamont -> home [03:28] almost there with nautilus [03:28] I just use the go menu [03:28] yeah [03:28] Burgundavia: you can do that [03:28] but it's an imrpvoement [03:28] its there for bling status [03:28] tseng, not in spatial [03:28] Burgundavia: uh, of course not [03:28] the new nautilus looks better than thunar [03:28] tseng, that is spatial within the window, but with the places and toolbar [03:29] Amaranth, agreed. good that they picked up the ball [03:29] Burgundavia: eh [03:29] AndyFitz: So how are the new icons coming along? [03:29] Burgundavia: if im using spatial i dont need all that crap [03:29] tseng, basically similar to the mac os X one [03:29] i guess [03:29] i look at this as a thing for first time users [03:29] not for me. [03:30] that is why I love the thunar stuff [03:30] so clean [03:30] windows converts expect browser behvarior [03:30] not really [03:30] novell usability study says yes really === Duck_Happy [duck@orfeo.duckcorp.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:30] have they put that video up yet? [03:31] no, i asked them to do it for mono live [03:31] and anna said, browser mode dudes [03:31] I agree with tseng. nautilus is feature full enough to give most types of file navigation ( aside from OSX column view. [03:31] anyway, I have to run [03:31] k [03:32] but we need a way out of the current spatial swamp [03:32] the only swamp i know of is ubuntu spatial [03:32] that is what I mean [03:33] well it seems pretty non-controversial that we will trade that for this: http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/screenshot.png [03:33] or reasonable facsimilie of [03:33] places + location bars [03:33] on browser [03:33] that isn't bad [03:33] but that with spatial would be nicer, IMHO [03:34] i think alot of people dont "get" spatial [03:34] I think they do [03:34] I do get it, and i see no reason to clutter my windows with that stuff [03:34] this would be single window spatial [03:34] to be clear [03:34] and the window would no resize [03:34] or move [03:34] the who what? [03:34] so just spatial placement [03:34] yes [03:35] sorry [03:35] not navigation [03:35] I see. [03:35] then we are in agreement (i think all windows should be spatial) [03:35] that isn't clear from the thunar screenshot [03:35] in that respect [03:35] if we had sexy transitions as new windows popped up . maybe spatial would be good. but the visual noise created by popping those windows up suddenly with no viaul link to where they came from is irritating and in my opinion unusable [03:35] well, that makes jdub, you and I that like that [03:35] AndyFitz, we are talking single window now [03:35] seb liked it [03:36] need some hacking [03:36] to do single window spatial placement [03:36] but not much [03:36] you want to fire a message of to the -devel list about it? [03:37] i dont like list view as default still [03:37] andy's setup w/ icon view [03:37] you mean you do like? [03:37] tseng yeah default should be icon view [03:37] Burgundavia: no [03:37] and no places bar on the side [03:37] ok [03:37] AndyFitz, the places bar is quite nice [03:37] tseng, ok [03:38] AndyFitz, part of the "where was I yesterday" stuff [03:38] here goes the upgrade === Amaranth weeps [03:38] I guess its a preference thing. I don't use the places often enough to not want to compromse that left space for what I coulg get by going to the go> menu [03:38] anyway, I really have to go now [03:39] Burgundavia: http://tseng.ath.cx/images/Screenshot-1.png like so === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:41] I'm kinda cut that the finder in nautilus doesn't use the 22x22 icons like it should [03:41] it resizes the 24x24 ones .. grrr [03:41] yeah [03:42] why doesnt it just show the full 24 [03:42] I agree. its a very dickie move [03:42] AndyFitz: i get the same thing if i set nautilus default zoom to 75% [03:43] AndyFitz: resizes :/ [03:43] it's possible to have an icon theme change the little foot icon on the applications menu, right? [03:43] Amaranth: yes [03:43] er [03:43] the "menu" one, not the "menu bar" one afaik === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:44] amaranth: want me to send you the pixmap to replace the gnome foot with ? [03:44] infinity: could you please kick libx{fixes,damage,composite} to rebuild? [03:44] sure [03:45] btw, the show desktop icon is too wide [03:45] or something, it's odd [03:45] i disagree [03:45] wide = easier to press [03:45] its a bug. I don't know how to fix it ( you are talking about the icon in the applet right ? [03:45] it's getting cut off vertically though [03:45] um [03:45] yeah, it's not getting resized [03:45] let me screenshot [03:45] looks ok on mine afaik [03:47] http://dev.realistanew.com/show_desktop.png [03:47] Amaranth, sent [03:47] if my domain name still works... [03:48] amaranth, yeh its scaling the icon in a weird way [03:48] I've got 16x16 22x22 24x24 and scalable sizes for that icon [03:48] but still the applet warps it [03:49] shit [03:50] my domain name is registered with an email address that doesn't exist anymore with an street address i don't live at anymore and with a credit card that expired [03:51] call NSI and ask them politely to transfer it to you [03:51] and get google.com while you're at it [03:51] haha [03:53] these icons don't really go with anything other than human === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:28] daniels : Sure. [04:29] ta === ajf2 [~forgue@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:2fad] has joined #Ubuntu-devel === drow [drow@nevyn.them.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:33] whoa [04:34] IRC on IPv6. Heh. [04:36] heh [04:38] daniels : xorg -35's MANIFEST was broken on powerpc (but only powerpc?) === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:42] infinity: yeah, already fixed in -36, which I'm going to punt up if libxevie builds ok === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:42] which it just did [04:43] Mmkay. xfixes looks okay, the other two are dep-waiting on it, so it'll take a dinstall or two to see them build. [04:45] right [04:46] uh. ok [04:46] so my shift key and capslock don't work [04:46] and ctrl and alt [04:46] this just happened while closing a program that could have caused it 9vmware0 [04:47] however, one would think that with vmware gone, my keyboard would work again [04:47] awesome [04:47] It remapped it on the way out? [04:47] because it would be silly for one program to be able to permanently do that. [04:47] advice/ heh [04:48] heck. [04:48] b rb === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] ok, with breezy, bitstream vera sans at 9 point font doesn't have much difference between bold and regular [04:49] daniels: is there a reason for that? [04:49] i dunno [04:49] want to see a SS? [04:49] i'm not the fonts guy :) [04:49] who is? [04:50] erm [04:50] good question, actually [04:50] but I really don't have in-depth knowledge of fonts [04:50] heh, nice [04:51] in hoary, it looked fine... breezy, it's strange === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.200.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:52] try downgrading libfreetype6 [04:52] daniels: to what version? [04:52] um === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:52] hoary's? [04:53] fonts are a complicated beast [04:56] daniels: http://www.reigndropsfall.net/images/fonts-issue.png [04:56] daniels: wait, let me upload it again [04:57] my connection is being flakey tonight === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:59] daniels: ok, check it now [04:59] schweeb: you too [05:00] mxpxpod: my solution, fix your dpi and/or don't use fonts smaller than 10 ;) === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@gnulinuxer.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:00] and what are your hinting settings? === vidz [~guest@dialup-4.252.96.154.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:01] I'd use best shape... slight hinting [05:01] Is there any way to formally request that eog be removed from ubuntu main and gthumb replace it? [05:02] seconded [05:03] schweeb: I've got my dpi at 75... is that bad? [05:03] that's what I use on my laptop [05:03] at 1024x768 [05:03] 12" [05:03] probably want something better at more reasonable resolutions [05:03] eog is the default image preview program for ubuntu and DOESN'T even support printing the picture! [05:04] something more in the range of 90 [05:05] vidz: whats better [05:05] gthumb wont open a file right up if you open it with it [05:05] it opens the directory [05:05] schweeb: yeah, I've got a 12" 1024x768 too... [05:06] mxpxpod: looks fine for me, albeit I don't use evo [05:06] Lathiat: yes it will [05:06] schweeb: what size font do you use? [05:06] Lathiat: Thats how I set this computer up [05:07] 10 [05:07] for everything [05:07] Bitstream Vera [05:07] Lathiat: Right click on a jpg -> Properties -> Open With -> Add. type gthumb and then it will open all jpgs up. Not the directory [05:08] schweeb: aha! if I set Hinting at medium, bold works fine [05:08] thanks for that tip [05:09] np [05:10] haha, yahoo mail is messed up tonight === daniels points Excessive Ephemera at the archive and fires away. [05:15] lamont-away: sorry dude [05:24] daniels : You need to tighten build-deps in xcomp, it looks like. [05:24] daniels : If it requires a specific xdamage... === daniels boggles at his own stupidity. [05:26] thanks === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:38] morning [05:38] daniels: + Hardware support for motion compensation (i.e., libI810XvMC) has [05:38] disappeared for the time being. Not that anything used it anyway. [05:38] meh dude... [05:38] do you realize that there are a bunch of pkgs using it? [05:39] but they fail to find it at configure time because of all the changes between xfree86 and xorg? [05:39] daniels: feh [05:39] hey lamont [05:39] howdy [05:40] daniels: iirc almost all the players that can use XvMC are able to recognize the i810 extension.. or at least they try to :) === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:43] fabbione: ah well. it'll come back soon enough. === bonny [~bonny@ALamentin-103-1-4-46.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jc_c [~jc@ALamentin-101-1-10-11.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:06] hello [06:08] is there any chance that the current sk98lin driver in the kernel would be replaced by the newer skge? That would be a cool thing since sk98lin doesn't support link detection, and therefore may not work peacefully with NetworkManager... === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] oh nevermind, I just noticed that breezy does indeed use skge :p === jc_c [~jc@ALamentin-101-1-10-11.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:37] so did anyone ever decide, do we use malone or bugzilla? === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [06:46] seth_k: motu is malone [06:46] main is stull bugzilla [06:47] gotcha [06:47] thank you === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:50] daniels: what's you ETA to complete Xorg split? [06:51] fabbione: completely? [06:51] daniels: we have tons of pkgs that are FTBFS due to the split and i think the MOTU's will like to know when they can start fixing the B-D [06:51] they can start any time they like? [06:51] probably some pkgs in main are in the same status [06:51] i'm doing most of the rest of the libs now [06:52] daniels: most of the FTBFS are due to missing includes and linking libs... so it needs to be done after you have finished with the libs :) [06:52] it's always been that if you add -I/usr/X11R6/include and make sure your includes are or , then everything will work [06:52] both now and when I'm totally finished [06:52] but, that being said, I hope to be done with most of the libs that everyone uses very soon [06:52] ok [06:52] i've done about 8 in the last couple of days, and hoping to get through another 5 today [06:53] than it's worth to wait a couple of days [06:54] probably === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:05] mornin' === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@a130-233-5-228.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] Morning === rob^_ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jbailey_ [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:40] hey pitti === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] marilize: hi [08:24] marilize: I asked you about those hoary-cd's === JaneW [~JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-097-195.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:34] daniels: you're making symlinks back to /usr/X11R6/? === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:36] Amaranth: huh? [08:36] daniels: symlinking things to where they used to be in /usr/X11R6/ [08:37] Amaranth: not if I can help it [08:37] oh ok, i must have misunderstood [08:37] tepsipakki: hi [08:37] so the goal is to completely remove /usr/X11R6/ [08:37] tepsipakkiL [08:38] tepsipakkie:email address? [08:39] daniels: is /usr/bin/X11/ the final destination for X binaries or are they going straight to /usr/bin/? [08:40] Amaranth: straight to /usr/bin; /usr/bin/X11 is a symlink to /usr/bin [08:40] so they'll be accessible via /usr/bin/X11 [08:41] ah [08:41] marilize: tjaalton@cc.hut.fi [08:41] daniels: is there a wiki or something that explains all of this? [08:41] the end goal was a 1:1 mapping between modules and distro packages, right? [08:41] Amaranth: 'my head' [08:41] Amaranth: yeah [08:42] well, don't leave your house [08:42] ? [08:42] your head doesn't accept input after it's been hit by a bus :P [08:42] heh [08:43] crucially, it doesn't output at all [08:43] heh [08:43] no output is better than garbage output [08:44] tepsipakkie: ok, see it [08:44] daniels: is there a wiki that explains what X.org is doing? [08:44] daniels: I think you've sent me to it before. [08:45] tepsipakki: do you want to adjust QTY [08:45] i mean what they're roadmap is [08:45] err, their [08:45] marilize: yes, but don't have them now. You haven't sent them yet? [08:45] Amaranth: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/ModularizationProposal, IIRC [08:47] "You no longer have to build and install the entire tree just to work on one small part of it." <--yay! [08:49] you no longer have to build and upload the whole frigging tree to fix a single typo <- HOLY CRAP YES [08:49] tepsipakki: will go out within the next day or two..... [08:51] daniels: exactly [08:51] daniels: that right there is reason enough to do it === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK [08:51] i did a bit of work on the debian xorg packaging today [08:51] i'd forgotten how much building the fonts sucked [08:52] (ironically, the bug I was fixing was in building Xprint -- go figure) === Amaranth doesn't know why that's ironic [08:52] but let's pretend i laughed [08:53] because I've been working on killing Xprint, and did in Ubuntu [08:53] and now we get xorg into Debian, the first bug I have to fix is about XPrint [08:53] heh [08:53] can't kill Xprint in debian? [08:53] no, sadly [08:53] can't make the same kinds of arbitrary decisions I can in Ubuntu [08:53] even though it's only semi-arbitrary (it really, really sucks) [08:54] Why is it needed then? [08:56] daniels, that is simultaneously the biggest flaw and the biggest asset of debian [08:56] Burgundavia: a fiefdom? [08:57] not being able to make arbitrary decisions [08:58] that's because it's a fiefdom though [08:58] not really [08:59] well, maybe not in this case [08:59] but if i own a package i can shut down anything you'd ever want to do with it [08:59] which is great but also awful [08:59] yes [08:59] more group ownership is needed [09:00] need some way to override package owner [09:11] Amaranth: xprint isn't needed at all -- hence why it's not in ubuntu [09:12] daniels: someone somewhere _might_ want it so it stays in debian? 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[10:05] heh bugports [10:06] <\sh> daniels: the comments are quite weired...flying cars, largest binary ,-) looks like my "koelsch" moved into your finger ;) [10:06] <\sh> and now I'm searching the ip address of the netapp === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] moring all [10:07] morning, even [10:07] morning [10:08] infinity: piiing? [10:09] \sh: they probably make more sense if you're a native English speaker [10:10] http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#changeportnumberapache === ogra scratches his head [10:10] morning [10:10] ogra, it is the ubuntuguide, what do you expect? [10:10] heh [10:10] ogra: morning :-) [10:11] morning ogra [10:11] Burgundavia, but thats information i really wouldnt expect there....and i'm wondering about the usecase... [10:11] someone needed it [10:11] heh [10:11]