itzMadpilot, yeah thx no np ;)12:00
Igg-manzyrr: you might try the other suggestion, or try and specifiy the option at the command line12:00
naliothubotu usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.12:00
ubotuokay, nalioth12:00
nalioth!forget usrepos12:01
itzit would be easier to have an option to have diff password to sudo and also if ur paranoid it would be great ;)12:01
ubotunalioth: i forgot usrepos12:01
zyrriggman> yes, i can acces it from terminal but not from file lister in graphical mode because i dont have root rights :F12:01
Igg-manzyrr: Try mount -t ntfs -o uid=yournormalusername12:01
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BockBilboany of you has managed to get amarok 1.3 to work on hoary?12:01
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Geist|Patrickdo u have a clue, Seveas, what may be wrong here12:02
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Discipulusis Seveas really a bot?12:02
DiscipulusI find it VERY difficult to believe12:02
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ubunturoxOK, I have tried everything.  I am using SMB and trying to mount a network share on a Windows 2003 server.  I have it auto mounting and it allows me to read/write when it works.  However sometime when it mounts, it only shows some (767) of the directories in the share.  Sometimes it shows all (1767) of them.  When it shows all of the dirs, I can access them and list them fine, but when I go back to refresh the dir, it only sho12:03
ubunturoxws either 0 or back to 767?!?!?!  ANyone know whats going on.12:03
itzDiscipulus, very good programed bot :O12:03
Igg-manitz: you should be able to set sudo to only let your run specific programs, that might help with security12:03
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mm23BockBilbo, as far as I know, only 1.2 is working...12:03
BockBilboi need to try 1.312:04
adrian_does anyone know of good burning software?12:04
mbirkisssh runs on port 22 right?12:04
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kbrooks<html><form><input type crash></form></html>12:04
BockBilboadrian_, k3b or gnome baker12:04
Igg-manadrian_: cdrecord12:04
adrian_and not k3b, i don't want to wait 30minutes for 100mb :(12:04
SpecialBuddyhow do I burn a iso disk with ubuntu12:04
DiscipulusSeveas, are you really a bot?12:04
adrian_he isn't12:04
itzIgg-man,  well still i like the option.... ;)12:04
kbrookshe isnt12:04
Discipulusah, makes sense12:04
adrian_i talked to jim some time ago :D12:04
Discipulusand here I thought he was a bot...12:04
itzwell going away now. thx for the help anyway dudes12:05
Igg-manSpecialBuddy: use k3b or that gnome baker, they should be able to do it12:05
Discipulusthat's bogus as hell12:05
Igg-manSpecialBuddy: if not, cdrecord should do it from the command line12:05
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Igg-manSpecialBuddy: sure12:05
Madpilotgnomebaker will burn ISOs. I think K3B will too.12:05
BockBilboim about to have kde and gnome installed at the same time...:S12:06
DiscipulusWhat kinda music ya'll listen to?12:06
xChillHi i want to execute a .jar file. in the readme it tells me to do this by "jre -new -jar <path to jar>". then i get "jre: command not found". i have installed the latest JRE from java.com (working ok in firefox). any idea whats wrong?12:06
itzSeveas, do u got some kind of donation account? i mean u cant do this for free all day long? :p12:06
naliothSeveas is an advanced AI running on an experimental IBM Cell Cluster Array12:06
ubunturoxhas anyone else had problems with smb not showing all the dirs?12:06
KyralK3B > GnomeBaker12:06
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Seveasitz, donate money to Ubuntu if you want to ;)12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYmost anything ^_^12:06
naliothitz: there are many forms of 'free' and 'salary'12:06
adrian_K3B=100mb, i have a REALLY slow connection at the moment (30kb/s), i don't want to wait that long12:06
pc_hi. i made .Trash a symlink to another partition (rw ofcourse) somehow deleting in nautilus doesn't work anymore now.. why's that?12:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYall money should be donated to Seveas@gimmiemoney.com12:07
itzWell when they give me sudo password as option i actually will give ubunt a donation12:07
naliothSeveas: do you like your upgrade?  ^^^12:07
mebaran151anybody know a good resource for how to sync my new shiny unlocked bluetooth Motorola V551 phone12:07
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naliothitz: you can give yourself that option12:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYis breezy ready yet?12:07
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, no :)12:07
Igg-manadrian_: cdrecord should be much smaller12:07
KyralI wanna get a black T-Shirt with the Ubuntu Logo on the sleeve and the Ubuntu Banner over the chest12:07
itznalioth, not yet... :)12:07
icewtubunturox, i had that problem in debian, don't know how to fix it12:07
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Igg-manadrian_: Its all command line12:07
SeveasKyral, www.cafepress.com12:07
adrian_oh crap12:07
naliothitz: you will learn12:07
KyralDoes Ubuntu have a store there?12:08
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Seveasor look at the ubuntu shop links on the ubuntu site12:08
Igg-manUhoh... one of the hdds just shutoff12:08
SeveasKyral, yes12:08
adrian_i'm burning a ubuntu cd for my friend12:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthats not good12:08
avalentehello, where can i find help on PHP + graphic charts? I wanted to draw a chart with 3 Y axis with different scales12:08
Igg-manoh, there it goes again12:08
[mrc] I just downloaded the "Hoary" iso for ppc, but i can't manage to burn the cd... I'm using Toast for MacOS X, someone could help? I'm ashamed, i can't burn a cd!! ;P12:08
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adrian_can i make a data cd with gnomebaker for the .iso?12:08
=== ChurcH_of_FoamY wants channel op ^_^
itznalioth, sure i will.... i actually going to try ubuntu as my "first" os choice...12:08
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xChillHi i want to execute a .jar file. in the readme it tells me to do this by "jre -new -jar <path to jar>". then i get "jre: command not found". i have installed the latest JRE from java.com (working ok in firefox). any idea whats wrong?12:08
naliothitz: it's my "only" OS of choice12:09
Discipulusadrian_, you think you have a slow connection? I have dial-up12:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYword to that man12:09
Igg-manDiscipulus: Why?12:09
adrian_Discipulus, you would get 56kb/s with thta12:09
adrian_i get 30 :'(12:09
Kyralnow can we get it in black...12:09
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MadpilotxChill: i think "java foo.jar" is what you need?12:09
itznalioth, maybe ill get there also... ;) i hope so since i really have an issue with ms products ;)12:09
Igg-manI get 35012:09
jeanluccan some one help me12:09
jeanlucwith a new install12:09
adrian_stupid virus-manifested-windows NT-router-junk12:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYme has 5mb internet ^_^12:09
Igg-manjeanluc: can you be more specific?12:09
adrian_GRRRR :(12:10
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naliothxChill: use "java" instead of "jre"12:10
xChillMadpilot: what do u mean?12:10
jeanlucits aboutsound12:10
jeanlucdo I need drivers?12:10
adrian_but ehh guys12:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYtook me 15 minutes to install ubuntu12:10
itzwell gn everybody have fun ok? ;)12:10
adrian_can i use Gnomebaker to burn a data cd for the ubuntu .iso?12:10
Kyralfsck, my mouse died12:10
Igg-manjeanluc: all of the sound drivers that you will need should be included12:10
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adrian_rofl Kyral12:10
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Igg-manjeanluc: do you know what kind of soundcard you have?12:11
parabolizeadrian_ yes12:11
adrian_give it CPR :D12:11
aruyou think you have problems, I can't find a bottle opener12:11
jeanlucits onboard my motherboard12:11
naliothadrian_: you should be able to12:11
adrian_only a pussy uses a bottle opener, a real man uses his TEETH12:11
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xChillnalioth: it tells me java: command not found :(12:11
aruguess I'm not a real man12:11
jeanlucIgg-man: well im really running kubuntu but they told me to come here12:11
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[mrc] Anyone know something about problems with ppc iso?12:12
xChilli have installed Java for sure12:12
jeanlucI hear no sound when I play an mp312:12
naliothxChill: type "which java" in a terminal12:12
Discipulusadrian_, no, not with dial-up, you get 5 kb/s, and that pushes it12:12
adrian_do you use ALSA, OSS, ESD, ??12:13
Discipulusadrian_, you get 56 kiloBITS per second with dial-up12:13
Discipulusadrian_, which translates to 5 kb/s12:13
xChillnalioth: i get no output12:13
Discipulusgive or take12:13
adrian_that can't be12:13
Discipulusand that's if your lucky enough to get a connection of 56kbps12:13
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Igg-manjeanluc: I assme the card isn't working12:13
adrian_Discipulus, seriously12:13
naliothxChill: then your symlinks are not in place12:13
Discipuluswhich rarely happens12:13
nalioths_dogxChill: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 12:13
Igg-manjeanluc: do you know what motherboard iti s?12:13
xChillwhats this?12:13
naliothxChill: try that12:13
jeanlucok I just installed kubuntu this is my first time that I have used it and I hear no sound playing an mp3 file, the sound card I have is onboard my motherboard witch is a soyo kt-sy-600 dragon v2.o and yes the sound works in windows.12:13
Discipulusadrian_, yea seriously12:13
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:14
Discipulusadrian_, have you never used dial-up before?12:14
Discipulusadrian_, if you don't know the basics of networking I suggest you read up12:14
Igg-manjeanluc: Did you check all of the volume controls?  I've had some computers that start with all of the sound muted12:14
Madpilotjeanluc: for mp3, check that url that ubotu just posted...12:14
ubotuChurcH_of_FoamY: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:14
naliothjeanluc: you may have better luck in #kubuntu or #kde12:14
jeanlucyes #kubuntu told me to ask here about sound12:15
xChillnalioth: oh no. we tried that already 2day it didnt work for me. i mean i have downloaded the java bin from java. and followed the instructions to install it. i made a link in the firefox plugin folder and it works fine.12:15
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Igg-manjeanluc: Have you checked the volumne controls?12:15
adrian_i think i'll have to download K3B anyways12:15
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naliothxChill: you are missing a symlink to the java runtime12:15
xChillnalioth: is there an easy way to check/correct my symlinks (whatever that is)?12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYi saw a pic today of someone who airbrushed a pic of tux on the hood of his car12:16
editedhow do i fix the clock problem? it shows the right time on ubuntu but not in xp?12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYit was so awsome12:16
jeanlucwhere are the volume controls?12:16
Discipulusadrian_, what kind of connection do you have?12:16
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xChillnalioth: ok, so i should find out where this runtime is, and make symlink, right?12:16
naliothxChill: hang on a minute, please (although the sequence the dog sent, should have put everything in place)12:16
adrian_it's fixed!12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYum thats because xp is dumb and dosen't know how to use intternet time >.<12:16
adrian_ 75.8kB/s 8m36s12:16
naliothxChill: one moment please12:16
Discipulusadrian_, what kind of connection do you have?12:16
Igg-manadrian_: what was it?12:17
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adrian_still not going the full 400kb/s, but hey, i'm happy12:17
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adrian_ADSL, 400kb/s12:17
kbrooksXP isnt dumb12:17
Discipulusadrian_, then don't complain.12:17
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Igg-manadrian_: What was causing your problem?12:17
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adrian_no idea12:17
adrian_something is still causing me problems12:17
naliothxChill: type in a terminal "ls /etc/alternatives/"12:17
adrian_normally i download at a 200/300kb12:18
Igg-manadrian_: do you have just the linux box connected?12:18
xChillnalioth: done. i see cyan files12:18
adrian_via a router12:18
adrian_oh no12:18
adrian_i asked my dad12:18
Igg-manwhat were you talking about before when you said the windows viruses?12:18
adrian_he put in a limit12:18
naliothxChill: if you get it sorted, you need a symlink to the java runtime to /usr/bin/java12:19
Discipulusadrian_, why did he do that?12:19
Igg-mana limit?  Why?12:19
adrian_because when i downloaded, he couldn't do anything properly12:19
xChillnalioth: sry, i have no clue what u mean (sry 4 being a pain in ...)12:19
kbrooksi think i'm locked out of sudo12:19
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kbrooksnot 100% sure12:19
adrian_i download a lot actually12:19
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Igg-manadrian_: pirate12:20
ubotuIgg-man: I haven't a clue12:20
kbrookshow do i check?12:20
adrian_no no no12:20
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naliothxChill: come to ##apple, please12:20
adrian_i download LEGAL anime episodes12:20
adrian_and i download some distro's for friends12:21
kbrooksnalioth, how do i verify im locked out of sudo?12:21
naliothkbrooks: type "sudo cal" from terminal12:21
adrian_they practicly all have dialup so i download it for them12:21
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kbrooksi am.12:21
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xChillnalioth: ok, coming to ##apple12:21
naliothkbrooks: sounds like grub rescue mode for you12:21
kbrooksnalioth, :|12:22
kbrooksnalioth, and that's a reboot?12:22
adrian_could anyone explain me this? :12:22
adrian_Need to get 39.8MB of archives.12:22
adrian_After unpacking 111MB of additional disk space will be used.12:22
naliothkbrooks: not until you need sudo12:22
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hondjeadrian_, compressed stuff12:22
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nightswimadrian_: it's compressed12:22
naliothadrian_: archives are zipped12:22
nightswimno butts please12:23
adrian_ 1/3 of orriginal size?12:23
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hondjenot too unusual12:23
adrian_almost 1/412:23
kbrooksnightswim, be careful.12:23
adrian_i mean12:23
gijoshHey.  Someone linked me to an article on Ubuntu's wiki about recovering grub after installing Windows.  I keep searching, but I can't find it.  Heh.12:23
kbrookssomeone could take you wrong12:23
adrian_that's unbeleivable12:23
kebab_tomtenwhen i order free cd of ubuntui wrote in my namn where to send it and that...when i have klick on the update info button is the cd comming to me now?12:23
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kbrookskebab_tomten, not 'now'12:24
kebab_tomtenhow do to then?12:24
kbrookscds dont come to u like magic12:24
adrian_BTW, does anyone know(or have experience with) DebianPure?12:24
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naliothgijosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:24
kebab_tomtenyes i now but are the send it now?12:24
MrMoDiscipulus, ?12:24
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arusomeone needs to invent a vending machine that downloads, burns, and labels linux distros12:24
gijoshnalioth:  Thanks man12:24
DiscipulusMrMo, you got a cool name12:24
arusomeone get working on that12:24
MrMoDiscipulus, okay.12:25
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kbrookskebab_tomten, just wait12:25
irenewhat are ubuntu users using for sources after install?   ie: w32codecs, acroread, flash...etc12:25
babyfireyou guys12:25
hondjeacroread 7 spies on you12:25
kebab_tomtenso about 4-6 weeks i got them?12:25
irenemaybe so, but12:25
kbrookshondje, BS12:25
babyfirewill some one pretty please tell me whyu my ubuntu doens cpome with sound12:25
babyfireon my system12:25
babyfiredoesnt come with12:25
hondjekbrooks: it calls home, whip out ethereal and watch12:26
kbrooksbabyfire, it does.12:26
cmathesonbabyfire: only if you stop asking crappy questions. what's wrong w/ it?12:26
aruthere are no crappy questions, only crappy responses12:26
babyfireit didnt come with sound12:26
babyfirewhen i installed it12:26
aruwhat sound card12:26
kbrookshondje, i dont believe your bs12:26
hondjeDon't believe me, but it's true12:26
babyfireand i i dotn knwo12:26
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cmathesonaru: that's ridiculous12:27
babyfirebut i have one12:27
hondjetcpdump and a packet filter fixes that, but it's well known12:27
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arucmatheson, and true12:27
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kbrooksuh wait12:27
hondjealso allows a document author to track when and where a document is opened12:27
MezPayPal is constantly working to ensure security by regularly screening the12:27
Mezaccounts in our system. Unfortunately, this account has been permanently12:27
Mezlocked with a $0.00 GBP balance. All information associated with this12:27
Mezaccount has been blocked from the PayPal system and cannot be registered to12:27
Mezanother account.12:27
MezPlease understand that this is a security measure to help protect you and12:28
Mezyour account. We apologize for any inconvenience.12:28
Mezhow the hell does that protect my account?12:28
adrian_so that others can't get into it??12:28
cmathesonMez: please don't paste lots of crap in this channel12:28
MadpilotMez: mind the cut'n'paste pls12:28
naliothmez, please use #flood or a pastebin12:28
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kbrooksnalioth, er. i want to install windows on hdb, but i want to boot into linux too. is there any way for me to enable that?12:28
MezI thought it would paste on one line - k ? It was one line in my email12:29
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adrian_k3b automaticly loads the md5 sul12:29
naliothkbrooks: installing windows will cause your grub to be eaten12:29
lamontMez: is phishing scam12:29
eliUbuntuanyone familiar with the hdparm.conf file?12:29
kbrooksnalioth, I KNOW!12:29
naliothMez: the ircd cuts it to fit12:30
Frank_dotadrian_: eliUbuntu a bit12:30
lamontMez: look carefully at the headers, and you'll see that it didn't originate from paypal.12:30
Frank_doteliUbuntu: a bit12:30
kbrooksnalioth, i already tried it myself12:30
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gijoshHey.  I got an error message after I tried to chroot.  Can you tell if it worked or not by the logs?12:30
gijoshubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mkdir /mnt/work12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mkdir /mnt/boot12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/work -t ext312:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/work/dev12:30
kbrooksMez, pm?12:30
naliothkbrooks: then you know you can dual, or treble, or quadruple boot12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mount -o bind /proc /mnt/work/proc12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # cp /proc/mounts /mnt/work/etc/mtab12:30
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gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/work/boot12:30
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gijoshroot@ubuntu:~ # chroot /mnt/work /bin/bash12:30
kbrooksMez, pm?12:30
gijoshbash: dircolors: command not found12:30
irenewhat are ubuntu users using for sources after install?   ie: w32codecs, acroread, flash...etc12:30
gijoshroot@ubuntu:/ #12:30
aruirene, you mean universe?12:30
adrian_gijosh, : #FLOOD12:30
Mezkprooks - pm why ?12:30
kbrooksMez, erm12:30
naliothgijosh: use a pastebin or #flood, please12:31
ireneuniverse doesnt work12:31
gijoshmy bad.  I didn't meen to copy/paste that mcuh of it12:31
hondjehttp://www.remoteapproach.com/remoteapproach/tour.asp <---how to make money from adobe spying12:31
kbrooksMez, look at the headers12:31
kbrooksMez, please12:31
gijoshjust the last 3 lines12:31
eliUbuntuFrank_dot: i am working with initiating dma, do you know much about it?12:31
Mezand lamont: no because it's got an email I sent to them in it :D as in they were responding to my emaila sking why it was blocked12:31
adrian_nalioth, you can always download GRUB via Windows12:31
adrian_i've done it before12:31
cmathesonirene: maybe you should check out multiverse12:31
lamontah, ok.12:31
Frank_doteliUbuntu: you want DMA for the CDROMs?12:31
aruirene, how so?12:31
lamontthey're protecting your bank account, not your ebay account...12:31
Mezkbrooks: originating IP =
G|immerIs there a command in Linux to change the cluster size especiall of an unmounted partition?12:31
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kbrooksMez, and is that a valid ip? ping it12:32
lamontMez: but is off-topic for this channel12:32
eliUbuntuno for hard drive, this is the wiki link im using -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA12:32
Mezkbrooks: am checking12:32
naliothkbrooks: i was gonna suggest that you make a grub boot floppy b4 you install windows12:32
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Mezmeh... sorry just annoyed12:32
kbrooksnalioth, no floppies here12:32
Mezbecause they've blocke dmy account for no reason12:32
naliothkbrooks: or unplug your hda and install windows on hdb12:32
eliUbuntusomone told me to go there to speed up up the hard drive and cdrom (for dvd's)12:32
kbrooksnalioth, i'm disabled...if you didnt even know12:32
naliothkbrooks: then you can plug your hda back in, and edit windows into your grub12:32
Frank_doteliUbuntu: sorry I don't know the options for hard drives12:32
needsomehelphi still can't get mplayer to compile and getting same errors of http://pastebin.com/311479  ( i have installed the rtp dev packages) any ideas thanks12:32
adrian_i don't see why people don't have floppy drives anymore12:32
eliUbuntuno probl12:32
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kbrooksnalioth, i cant get out of my chairc because then i cant get in myself12:33
adrian_they're really usefull in Linux12:33
penguin42Can someone on a real P4 tell me if they have (on hoary) any other subdirs under /lib/tls other than 'i686'12:33
Frank_dotneedsomehelp: do you really ned to compile mplayer?12:33
kbrooksnalioth, i.e. i cant walk12:33
naliothkbrooks: ok12:33
eliUbuntufloppies = annoyance12:33
naliothkbrooks: yes i get the point12:33
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sam_whats a nice command to tell how much space my hd has left?12:33
needsomehelpwell Frank_dot everyone ask me that if you can tell me how to get libmp3lame working with it then no ;)12:33
aruadrian_, handy in windows also, when you need to fdisk and the mbr is gone... or am I the only one stupid enough to do that12:33
penguin42sam_: df -h12:33
Frank_dotsamiam:  df12:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYstoopid nicserv >.<12:33
naliothkbrooks: the wiki 'recovering grub after windows install' works well12:33
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adrian_lol aru12:34
kbrooksnalioth, ok. thx12:34
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needsomehelptrying t follow the guide that is about dvd to xvid all works up t the point of coding the audio to mp3 using lame i can do it fine with ac3 but its big as crap12:34
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adrian_i once forgot on which HD Windows was on, i guessed, and fwoesh, wrong guess :x12:34
jasoncohenneedsomehelp, what program are you using?12:34
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naliothadrian_: you are windowsless now?12:35
penguin42adrian_: Oh dear - another smashed windows12:35
needsomehelpin terms of trying to make the xvid?12:35
jasoncohenneedsomehelp, i encode from DVD to divx/xvid with dvdrip and it works with MP3 just fine- also normalizes well12:35
adrian_the funny thing is12:35
penguin42so - anyone with a p4 just to do that ls for me ?12:35
needsomehelpjasoncohen, then we need to talk then12:35
Frank_dotneedsomehelp: you can't play mp3 with mplayer?12:35
needsomehelpi can't get trancode to install for crap12:35
needsomehelpFrank_dot, not trying to play anything12:35
needsomehelptrying to encode12:35
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adrian_penguin42, i have a P412:35
adrian_what's wrong?12:35
jasoncohenneedsomehelp, did you add hoary-extras?12:35
naliothjasoncohen: sounds like you have your work cut out for you today12:36
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Frank_dotneedsomehelp: I don't know I never tried to encode a DVD12:36
needsomehelpjason i think so12:36
penguin42adrian_: please do an ls of /lib/tls for me and tell me if you have any sub directories other than i686 and what is in that i686 subdir - thanks12:36
aruadrian_, I had all my music cds backed up on a 120gb drive... formatted it during a freebsd install, worst part was all my cds got stolen a week before12:36
needsomehelpi mean dvd::rip installed but it will not work cause of transcode12:36
jasoncohennalioth, why's that? i finished finished a gimp project12:36
needsomehelpif you could pm me that would be great kinda hard to follow the chat12:36
adrian_120gb of music? :/12:36
arupeople warn against drinking and driving, I think drinking and installing is more dangerous12:36
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jasoncohennalioth, got this HP printer/scanner/copier working, scanned a play ticket at 300 dpi and then edited it in gimp for my sister's upcoming bat mitzvah12:37
adrian_i only hve i68612:37
penguin42adrian_: OK, and what is in i686 ?12:37
naliothjasoncohen: in HERE12:37
AegirPentium Pro and onwards in the Intel line12:37
aruI used to work for a radio station and was a dj, so I had decade sets and a huge collection12:37
adrian_and in cmov are a bunch of .so's12:37
jasoncohennalioth, helping needsomehelp now12:37
naliothjasoncohen: aren't you the transcode mythtv king?12:37
penguin42adrian_: Ta, and just files within that cmov directory?12:37
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jasoncohennalioth, more so mythtv12:38
Aegiri386=386 i486=486 i586=Pentium i686=Pentium Pro onwards12:38
penguin42adrian_: Ta12:38
jasoncohenbut i used dvdrip with transcode as well12:38
penguin42Aegir: Yes I know that - I'm trying to figure out the linker12:38
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penguin42adrian_: Thank you (Ta= British slang for thank you)12:38
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adrian_yw :D12:38
AegirGood, Im sick of running into people who dont know what the ix86's are :)12:38
eliUbuntuanyone know the bootmisc.sh file?12:38
adrian_sorry Aegir :(12:39
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jasoncohennalioth, the guy who asked about mythtv last night wants me to help him set up myth boxes as a paid project/business venture12:39
aruAegir, what is it?12:39
eliUbuntuwhats the ix86's :P12:39
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ignacio_me gustaria que me diara alguien una pagina12:39
adrian_i'm going to try out the Debian Pure .iso12:39
ignacio_pa bajarme un emule para linus12:39
adrian_i hope it has a grub/lilo with it12:39
naliothjasoncohen: congrats12:39
cmathesonjasoncohen: can you actually do that cheaper than tivo?12:39
jasoncohencmatheson, well, you can do a lot more than tivo12:39
Discipulusignacio_, #ubuntu-es12:39
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cmathesonjasoncohen: i reckon.  i still can't get my card working :'(12:40
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jasoncohencmatheson, you can't put together a 1 TB array with 2-3 tv tuners on a backend and xbox/s / silent pcs for frontends all networked with itivo12:40
ignacio_otra cosa12:40
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ignacio_deciros que power linux12:40
ignacio_le da mil vueltas windows12:40
Discipuluscmatheson, no, you can't make a mythtv box cheaper than a TiVo box, it's about 2-3x more expensive, but you don't have to pay a monthly fee for it12:40
naliothignacio_: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es, por favor12:40
hondjeignacio_, #ubuntu-es12:40
amittpSeveas, Madpilot , I  got gd working properly now with php and apache2 :) Thank you both of you.12:40
penguin42Aegir: So what is curious is that if you set an LD_LIBRARY_PATH, ld.so will search blah/tls/i686/mmx/cmov, blah/tls/i686/mmx, blah/tls/i686, blah/tls/mmx/cmov, blah/tls/mmx, blah/tls/cmov, blah/tls blah/i686/mmx/cmox, blah/i686/mmx, blah/i686/cmov, blah/i686, blah/mmx/cmox, blah/mmx, blah/cmox - all to look for a library12:41
Discipulusignacio_, english only12:41
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/12:41
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jasoncohencmatheson, mythtv can be controlled from anywhere with mythweb. mythvideo allows you to browse your videos with dvd covers, descriptions & ratings of each movie. mythtv is just more expandable/networkable12:41
mabusigancio_ #ubuntu-es12:41
penguin42I would like to educate ld.so to tell it that there are only one type of libraries installed (or install other sets? Nah can't be bothered)12:41
cmathesonjasoncohen: that's pretty rad.  when my card is supported i'll have to jump on that train12:41
Discipulusignacio_, en #ubuntu-es para espanol, ingles en #ubuntu12:42
kbrookspenguin42, ld.so.conf in /etc12:42
Discipulusjasoncohen, and what tuner cards? You can make the backend cheaper depending on the tuner cards  you make12:42
Madpilotamittp: np12:42
kbrooksdlucas, DONT ping the channel12:42
penguin42kbrooks: nope12:42
kbrooksit's rude12:42
Discipulusand it would be illegal to sell a modded xbox for use as a frontened12:42
jasoncohenDiscipulus, well, if you are going to have multiple tuners you'll want to use a pvr-250 MCE or a pvr-150/50012:42
jasoncohenDiscipulus, those are hardware encoders meaning 0% cpu to record12:42
jasoncohensoftware encoders use too much cpu12:43
jasoncohenand hardware encoders are higher quality generally12:43
penguin42An example of why I want to do this is that openoffice2 (ubuntu hoary package) does 2500 open() calls during startup - of which 1900 fail - looking for libraries in odd places12:43
kbrooks0% is impossible12:43
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Frank_dotkbrooks: less than 5% then...12:43
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jasoncohencmatheson, what card do you have?12:44
Jogarigawhere can i find info on how to partition my powerbook to install ubuntu?12:44
G|immerhmm, Evolution does not seem to import Outlook PST file :(12:44
cmathesonjasoncohen: it's a tv-@nywhere pro or something like that12:44
jasoncohenbttvs work well12:45
jasoncohenand are supported out of the box12:45
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cmathesonjasoncohen: the kernel loads the ait7440 (i think) module for it, but when i run one of the tv-viewing programs i just get a green screen12:45
naliothJogariga: in the wiki, maybe?12:45
penguin42G|immer: There is a package called readpst 'Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others'12:45
naliothJogariga: how big is your HD, and do you want to dual boot?12:45
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ed1thello im trying to install AIM 1.5 on linux, i followed the steps they told me but it doesnt work12:45
penguin42kbrooks: So the /etc/ld.so.conf only contains a line for the X dirs - nothing about the processor types12:45
naliothJogariga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NewUserGuide12:46
jasoncohencmatheson, did you specify the correct device- /dev/video0 or 112:46
ed1tjaviadip@ubuntu:~$ /usr/bin/aim12:46
ed1tbash: /usr/bin/aim: No such file or directory12:46
naliothed1t: use gaim12:46
Frank_doted1t: would gaim do?12:46
cmathesonjasoncohen: yeah, i tried xawtv at first... that didn't work out, so then i tried mplayer... read the man page and i was specifying the device and a bunch of other crap (i'm not on that box right now so i can't tell you what exactly)12:46
ed1ti dont like gaim12:46
G|immerpenguin42: thx12:46
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kbrooksi love gaim12:47
ed1ti like a client which like flashes the IM window when i receive a message12:47
Jogariganalioth: it's 60gb i want dual boot12:47
kbrooksill brb12:47
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skoragaim can do that12:47
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cmathesonjasoncohen: i have it hooked up to a satelite broadcaster thingy, so it may be an issue w/ that (i should have the tv-card set to channel 3)12:47
ed1tskora, how?12:47
naliothed1t: are you trying to install an actual AOL sanctioned linux client?12:47
ed1tnalioth,  yea12:47
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naliothJogariga: the wiki NewUserGuide (link above) has a walkthrough12:47
ed1tskora, i cant find that option12:47
skoraed1t, go to preferences12:48
skoraand then conversations12:48
cmathesonjasoncohen: but i don't know what channel 3 is (there are a lot of channel 3's none of which worked), and then on google i read some reports of working cards, and some saying it was a new chipset that doesn't work in linux yet12:48
schuppigerman room?12:48
naliothed1t: it is gonna have a fit, tryin to phone home to momma, you know12:48
schuppiohh i think not...12:48
Jogariganalioth: thanks12:48
skoraschuppi, ubuntu-de ?12:48
naliothJogariga: you only really need about 5-7gb for ubuntu12:48
naliothJogariga: cuz linux can read/write to your OSX partition12:49
ed1tskora, and/12:49
BFsomebody told me not to use ubuntuguide.org, why shouldnt I?12:49
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.12:49
BFthanks, that was easy :)12:50
kbrooksBF: Heh.12:50
Jogariganalioth: do you run ubuntu on a powerbook?12:50
Aegirpenguin42, Im not a c/c++/c# dev, what you last wrote goes completly beyond me. I just know a smattering of ASM12:50
epcan i install apt-file ?12:50
naliothJogariga: i have it on 2 iBooks12:50
skoracheck "raise IM window on events" - is this your option you wanted ?12:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.12:50
naliothJogariga: i have 7gb for ubuntu (on a 60gb HD)12:50
penguin42Aegir: Ah fair enough - I was just hoping I would stir a lurking linker guru12:50
kbrooksskora, dont clutter the channel12:50
ed1tskora, no i dont wanna raise, i wanna like flash the chat window in a task bar like windws12:50
Discipulusjasoncohen, hmm, a business venture using MythTV, pm me plz12:50
naliothep: yes you can12:50
Jogariganalioth: do you like it?12:50
naliothJogariga: i havent used OSX in months12:51
Jogariganalioth: i'll talk to you when i try it12:51
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kbrooksi think ubuntu needs a boot editor program12:52
penguin42kbrooks: A what?12:52
penguin42you mean a pretty editor for the grub menu files?12:52
naliothpenguin42: or the pretty yaboot files12:52
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skoraed1t, you want it to flash in the in bottom window, right ?12:53
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skorabut not 'raise up' ?12:53
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ed1tskora,  yea12:53
penguin42nalioth: Yeh would be nice I guess - especially if it was cross architecutre and would do grub, yaboot or whatever12:53
kbrooksRazor-X, i just became a member of the UNP, fyi12:53
naliothpenguin42: a script that detects what arch and opens an editor to that particular file, shouldnt be hard12:54
Razor-Xkbrooks: you mean, the newbie-helping thing, or the actual member thingie?12:54
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kbrooksi really need to empty my trash...or trash it out to that fat32 partition12:54
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kbrooksRazor-X, former12:54
Razor-Xkbrooks: ahhh12:54
penguin42nalioth: No, but to be useful it would as you say be smarter and not actually do a straight editor - I'm sure the format is probably subtely different between grub and yaboot12:54
kbrooksRazor-X, NewUserMentors I believe12:55
kbrookson the Ubuntu wiki12:55
Razor-Xahhh, welcome then ;)12:55
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fgrhello all, is it possible to set gnome-terminal to display remote server name as tab title when im using ssh?12:55
penguin42fgr: The trick is to make something (e.g. an ssh alias) issue some control codes to change the title12:56
cmathesonfgr: maybe it would be easier to just have your prompt show the remote server?12:56
ed1tskora, is it possible?12:56
naliothpenguin42: somewhat, yes12:56
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kbrooksi'll clear out the clutter12:56
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penguin42fgr: Try installing the 'xttitle' package and make an alias that runs that and then the ssh (I haven't tried it)12:56
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G|immerreadpst does not read Outlook 2003 PST files! :(12:57
penguin42G|immer: Sheesh now your just getting picky :-)12:57
BFkbrooks, hmm, I used some of this ubuntuguide allready, specifically I added two repositories presumably with backports hosted on some servers named something.mirrormax.net. Are those repositories official, or are they ubuntuguide.org repositories?12:58
skoraBF, mirroxmax is fine.12:58
BFok, thanks12:58
kbrooksBF, official12:58
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BFhow do I see that?12:59
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naliothBF, i'd only use the backports for things you actually are gonna use12:59
fgrpenguin42,  well not as easier as i wished, but thx!12:59
naliothBF: when you're not using them, i'd comment them out12:59
karnage-is there any easy way for me to install PHP 4.3.11 on my ubuntu server? as its a server install, none of the compiling tools are installed so compiling from source will be very difficult. Is there a .deb package available??12:59
BFnalioth, is there a way to see what I installed from that server?01:00
cmathesonkarnage-: man apt-cache01:00
karnage-cmatheson: php 4.3.11 isnt available via apt, only 4.3.10 is01:00
naliothBF: not really01:00
cmathesonkarnage-: oh you really need that version... i would say your best bet is installing the compilation environment then01:01
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naliothBF: but if you've only had em a couple of days, i dont think theres any harm01:01
skoraBF, no unfortunately - one of my gripes with ubuntu01:01
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BFnalioth, is it correct understood that if I wanted for example firefox in a newer version then I'd have to use the backports?01:01
karnage-cmatheson: im not too keen on installing all those packages just to compile php. can i build a temporary ubuntu box with all of this and somehow create my own .deb package?01:02
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ipcopnewbiehas anyone experienced outgoing ssh issues when going from ubuntu woody to debian sarge (if using firestarter as a firewall) ?01:02
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yourghetekwhere can i find a list of webcams that work with gnome meeting?01:02
tiglionabbitipcopnewbie: ubuntu woody?  Are you confused?01:02
naliothBF: if you desired it, yes, but the current ff is fully up-2-date security wise01:02
Frank_dotipcopnewbie: I ssh from hoary to woody no problem01:03
ipcopnewbietiglionabbit: sorry, that was a typo01:03
BFnalioth, yeah, but you cant install extensions on it, the firefox website redirects you to an upgrade page01:03
ubotufrom memory, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"01:03
ipcopnewbietiglionabitt: should have read, hoary to debian sarge01:03
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naliothBF: there ya go01:03
concept10ipcopnewbie, Check the firewall on the box you want to SSH into.  Allow port 2201:03
penguin42ipcopnewbie: So what do you see?01:03
ipcopnewbieconcept10: no problems ssh'ing to that box from other boxes (running debian)01:04
nalioththe amazing tiglionabbit and his neverending box of !01:04
BFsurely that is a temporary workaround until somebody fix the package?01:04
naliothBF: yes01:04
tiglionabbitnalioth: well that time it was the exact question he had01:04
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: what happens is, syslog reports packets being blocked on high ports, coming back from the box i'm trying to ssh to01:04
BFall well and good then01:04
tiglionabbitthat temporary problem has been around for months though01:04
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: even though i initiate the ssh connection from my ubuntu box01:04
BFif I wanted to be sure that there was a bugreport on such a thing, where would I look?01:04
tiglionabbitBF: there is a bug report01:05
naliothbf, there is plenty of bugzilla entrys on it01:05
penguin42ipcopnewbie: So what do you see from the machine you ssh from?01:05
naliothBF: its an ubuntu problem, thats not a problem01:05
ed1tnmv i found some other way to get notified in aim...append (***) to the window if there is new unread IM01:05
ed1tthats works01:05
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: e.g port 60580, 6057701:05
BFI have no doubt, but where do I look in case I find a similiar bug?01:05
jasoncohennalioth, i fixed Discipulus' problem. he had marillat in his sources.list and the dependencies couldn't be satisfied for transcode.01:06
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ipcopnewbiepenguin42: while ssh is trying, packets come back from the destination machine at varying high ports such as those i just listed, until it gives up01:06
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naliothmarillat is the root of all evil..... heh heh01:06
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: the weird thing is that i can ssh to another (woody, not sarge) debian vps in that same network, no problem01:06
asdxI have a i810 video card. And I'm using the i810 x11 driver. But I can't change from 640x480 :S01:06
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:06
anto9usipcopnewbie: maybe the firewall on the box is set to accept only from the ip addresses of the other debian boxes?01:06
ipcopnewbieauto9us: the vps i'm sshing to has no firewall01:07
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BFah, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is the answer01:07
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DiscipulusI didn't have that problem....01:08
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G|immerpenguin42: lol, sorry. I guess I would have to export the emails and contacts from Outlook (and perhaps uninstall Office for good :P)01:09
penguin42ipcopnewbie: OK 2 thoughts:   1) try ssh -2      2) try ssh by ip not name (unlikely)   3) do an ssh -v01:09
anto9usipcopnewbie: maybe it's a problem with host keys then01:09
ubotuwell, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:09
penguin42G|immer: Something must read it - but I've never done it01:09
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: i let me try -2.01:09
ipcopnewbieauto9us: probably not host keys because kernel is blocking return traffic from the vps entirely01:09
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi just had an interesting idea guys01:10
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skoralet's hear it ChurcH_of_FoamY01:10
anto9usipcopnewbie: try adding the ubuntu machine to the hosts file or the dns server, if local01:10
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: -2 does not help01:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYhas anyone tryed to install ubuntu on top of the new knoppix?01:10
penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: Increase the amount of chocolate in double chocolate muffins? Or something more radical?01:10
LasseLif I am "tar cjf"-ing a large file is it safe to begin sending it to another maching with scp before it is finished writing the file01:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething more radical lol01:11
penguin42ipcopnewbie: Well try the ip and try a -v01:11
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: doing...01:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYalthough double chocolate muffins sound really really good when you have the muchies ^_^01:11
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skoraI noticed on the wiki repositories page that it doesn't have any info onto how to add backports01:12
penguin42LasseL: Yeech - well in principal no, but as long as you *know* the scp is slower....01:12
skorait's actually not organized, imho.01:12
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naliothskora: on the backports page01:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was thinking of putting my vmware to use and install knoppix and give access to the ubuntu repos just to see what would happen01:12
ubotuI guess backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:12
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Kyralmy Desklets died and I cannot bring them back up...01:12
LasseLpenguin42, it has a headstart og 14G :/01:12
penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: I suspect it will get very messy indeed01:12
Kyralthe gDesklets Shell just hangs01:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis it worth a try i mean it's vmware it shoulden't harm my box should it?01:13
ipcopnewbiepenguin42: ip same result, with -v it gets as far as Connecting to... line and then just sits there01:13
penguin42LasseL: is it a local secure network - if so consider using netcat (nc) to send it - you can send it without the tar ever hitting the diesc01:13
naliothKyral: then gdesklets is still running in the background, sounds like01:13
DerkommissarI have a laptop, it has a mobility radeon 9000 for a video card... im trying to have more workspace so i want to have 2 monitors... the laptop monitor and an external... rigth now the only ting it does is that it mirros the desktop, i want to spand it to the external monitor or i want to have a new deskop on the external monitor.... how can i achive this ????01:13
Derkommissarhere is my xorg.conf01:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the diffrence between knoppix and ubuntu is?01:13
naliothdark: not in here01:13
paxAnyone got a link to Seveas's windows mount script?01:13
penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: Mumble random versions of random packages and a lot of different flavoured glue?01:14
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skorathe http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ link doesnt work for me..01:14
nalioths_dogpax: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically01:14
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paxnalioths_dog: you da man.01:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm it's just for a learning experirance01:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi think it would be kinda neet only cause i like the way knoppix boots01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's in colour01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYand has a really nice pic of tux on boot01:15
dikadikaI just finished installing ubuntu 64 on my machine, i get to the login screen and when i enter my login information  i get a brown screen, and thats it01:15
arubrown screen of death01:15
dikadikaaru, LMAO01:15
tiglionabbitthat would be ubuntu's default background01:15
dikadikathat sounds depressingly bad01:15
ipcopnewbieon another topic, has anyone experienced apps like emacs freezing if left in a non-active virtual desktop for a day?01:16
penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: Certainly Knoppix is damn useful - it is my emergency get-out-of-trouble CD01:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYsame here01:16
ipcopnewbiei've built the latest, greatest emacs. runs fine. but if it's on say desktop1 , and i have desktop 4 showing, then eventualy switch back to one, emacs has just frozen01:16
naliothpenguin42: i think thats its place in a lot of our pockets01:16
LasseLpenguin42, thanks! interesting program01:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i just desoverd it and it has been quite usefull01:16
tiglionabbitdikadika: I've never had this problem.  People teld to advise people with this problem to turn off ACPI support, among other things.  What I would do if it happens, is switch to a virtual terminal and run 'top' to see what's got it stuck01:17
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dikadikatiglionabbit, i'll do that and report back01:17
Kyralnalioth, gDesklets isn't running at all in the background, I checked01:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYsee my idea is to find out how knoppix boot like it does and make ubuntu do the same thing01:17
BFthank you for some very nice support guys, and nn01:17
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naliothKyral: if you restart gdesklets, and it hangs, theres some part of it thats hung, it sounds to me like01:18
tiglionabbitdikadika: I mean "What I'd do".  Not great advice though, because it hasn't happened to me01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want my contribution to ubuntu to be eye candy ^_^01:18
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: know how to use Inkscape?01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot that it needs anymore01:18
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: it's called a bootsplash, and you'll have one in breezy01:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYnever herd of it01:18
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tiglionabbitInkscape is a scalable vector graphics editor.  It's how they make those awesome desktop icons and stuff01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't want a boot splash it's too xpish :p01:19
tiglionabbit!info inkscape01:19
ubotuinkscape: (Vector based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.40-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3807 kB, Installed size: 14628 kB01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYlook at the way the new knoppix cd boots on powerup01:19
naliothxChill: np01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYall the text is colourd01:19
tiglionabbithmm, that's true01:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to bring that somehow to ubuntu01:19
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: the whole knoppix disk is GPL'd01:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYthey make the bootup fun cause theres actually something more than black and white01:20
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you can open the thing up, cut out the parts you like, and add em to ubuntu all you want01:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth no i want to keep ubuntu as ubuntu(ish) as possible01:20
JaZy84i have a question guys, i have 5.01 hoary i think. i wan to update it to the 5.0401:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut make the text more fun for people01:20
JaZy84can i do this by doing an apt-get sort of thing01:21
penguin42now, if someone could get Knoppixs hardware detection to work on ubuntu - *wow*01:21
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: so you rip into the guts of knoppix, to learn how to do it for ubuntu01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYso that when ubuntu boot people go WHOA01:21
naliothJaZy84: you have ubuntu 4.10?01:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat do i need besides vmware to do this?01:21
naliothJaZy84: warty warthog?01:21
penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: Patience, some disc space, and a certain amount of boredom.01:22
dikadikatiglionabbit, top seems to not report anything interestin01:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have 40 gigs to work with01:22
JaZy84i'm sure it's 5.0101:22
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ChurcH_of_FoamYsomehow i don't think thats enough >.<01:22
naliothJaZy84: there are only 2 current versions of ubuntu, 4.10 and 5.0401:23
karnage-does anyone know how i can build a .deb package for PHP 4.3.11 from source? I need to install this on my firewall box, but dont want to install all the tools required to compile from source, so I was wondering if I could do all of this on a spare box and simply install the .DEB file on my firewall afterwards??01:23
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naliothJaZy84: the unstable upcoming version is 5.1001:23
JaZy84it must be 4.10 then01:23
penguin42karnage-: Yes you can - debs are quite easy to build01:23
JaZy84is there a way to update from version 1 to version 201:23
naliothkarnage-: are your boxes very similar in both hardware and software?01:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo i have to GPL my work?01:23
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: if you take from the gpl, you must follow its guidelines01:24
resiakX-Chat users: Does Ubuntu's default setup auto-join #debian?01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYok website on it's guidlines then?01:24
ubotuChurcH_of_FoamY: I haven't a clue01:24
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naliothresiak: no it joins #ubuntu by default01:25
aruI didnt think it joined anything by default01:26
JaZy84would it be best to just reinstall from cd?01:26
resiaknalioth: Someone on #d claims otherwise.01:26
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arumine has nothing set as a channel to join, and I didnt edit it01:27
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valtariccan anyone help me with cedega the people in that channel wont answer me.01:27
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/01:27
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bimberiyw :)01:28
naliothresiak: if i dont mess with xchat, and just hit 'connect' i fall into here01:28
valtaricdoes anyone know anything about cedega?01:28
penguin42karnage-: So you've got the source deb?01:28
resiaknalioth: http://pastebin.com/311573  # Allegedly...01:28
bimberiaru: I'm pretty sure my xchat didn't auto join anything either01:28
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penguin42ChurcH_of_FoamY: vmware has a few modules it builds and loads01:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok01:29
aruit doesn't, I have a fresh install on my laptop and it didnt join01:29
karnage-penguin42: i have the source package from php.net01:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow the hardware support in knoppix is to die for01:30
karnage-i need to include mysql and sybase support01:30
penguin42karnage-: So what files is that? a tar? a dsc? what?01:30
kezzwhy are you running php on a firewall box? (just curious)01:30
karnage-its a .tar.gz01:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe a new project would be to port that to ubuntu01:30
karnage-kezz: its a firewall/web server01:30
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kezzkarnage-, not really a good idea01:31
Geist|Patrickis there a deb server which has the latest openoffice?01:31
karnage-i know, but what can ya do01:31
penguin42karnage-: So, do you know that it has the required patches in to build for debian?01:31
kezzkarnage-, forward port 8001:31
karnage-kezz thats not my issue here01:31
newbiei was wondering if any of you used pure-ftpd and is it better then proftpd?01:31
karnage-my issue is php 4.3.10 has known bugs when talking with Sybase/MSSQL servers01:31
kezznewbie, in terms of what01:32
karnage-so i need to install php 4.3.1101:32
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cafuegokarnage-: You'll need to do a backport, then.01:32
penguin42karnage-: does that tar contain the debian build stuff?01:32
newbiekezz security and ease of configuration01:32
valtariccan anyone help me with cedega?01:32
karnage-penguin42: im not sure, its the regular package from php.net... how do i find out01:32
SpecialBuddycan I make a livecd with k3b01:33
penguin42karangage-: Ah fi its not then that is harder; its only easy to build a debian package from source - building a random thing from source is a totally different matter - has the tar got a 'debian' subdirectory01:33
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Geist|Patrickno mirrors?01:33
karnage-actually forget 4.3.11, 4.4.0 was released just yesterday01:33
valtarichello i need soem help please.01:33
cafuegokarnage-: apt-get source php4; copy the debian/ directory from that to the extracted tarball, edit the changelog (for new version number) and build the custom .deb01:34
naliothGeist|Patrick: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive01:34
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naliothSpecialBuddy: do you mean can you burn a livecd?01:34
penguin42cafuego: And hope to hell it works?!01:34
SpecialBuddylike burn an .iso onto a disk01:34
naliothSpecialBuddy: yes01:34
SpecialBuddywhich option do I use01:35
naliothSpecialBuddy: burn image to disk01:35
Geist|Patrick there is only version ..1.9.79.x01:35
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SpecialBuddyI'm not sure if I see that01:35
asdxI'm going to compile a 2.4.26 kernel for ubuntu01:36
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asdxI have to use some linux-abi patch for run some SCO Unixware aplication01:36
penguin42karnage-: If it hasn't got the debian build stuff in then I'd only give it a 50% chance of just working by copying the debian dir from another version01:36
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Geist|Patrickbtw. any clue why linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7 freezes my system?01:36
naliothSpecialBuddy: its under "tools"01:36
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mbirkisis luminocity difficult to get working... and does anyone have any screenshots for me?01:37
penguin42Geist|Patrick: When? Randomly or at certain times?01:37
SpecialBuddyI figured it out01:37
aceidiacan anyone help me with cedega?01:37
SpecialBuddybefore you told me actually but thanks for the help01:37
karnage-let me check if theres a debian directory01:37
SpecialBuddyI just didn't see it right away01:37
Geist|Patrickif i try to change settings01:37
Geist|Patricklike deleting menu items or edeting files01:37
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karnage-see my problem is01:38
jewelmbirkis:  http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots01:38
karnage-if i try to install dependencies for building php401:39
karnage-it says the following01:39
karnage-apt-get build-dep php401:39
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bimberiwow - didn't know you could do that01:39
naliothkarnage-: use #flood or a pastebin01:39
karnage-it tries to install over 100 packages01:39
karnage-just so that i can compile01:39
mbirkisjewel: thnx01:39
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penguin42karnage-: Not unreasonable if you haven't got compile stuff in01:40
karnage-and i dont particularly want to do that, i want to keep it a minimal server install01:40
jewelmbirkis:  There is a link there to installation instructions, but I've never tried them myself01:40
penguin42Geist|Patrick: That's a damn odd reason for it to freeze01:40
karnage-thats why i was thinking i could build another box with a full install, compile PHP on that box, then somehow move it to my firewall box01:40
stephansdoes anyone know how I can get wordperfect 8 running in ubuntu?01:41
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mbirkisjewel: ok... i am thinking of trying... looks kewl01:41
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LincTeKtry crossover office01:41
stephansobviously there is a trick01:41
newbieok let me rephrase then anyone know of ftp server that is secure and reliable01:41
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aceidiacan anyoone hear me01:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow that sucked01:41
thiniceno aceidia01:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYno we can see you typeing though01:42
mbirkisaceidia: nope but we read you01:42
Geist|Patrickwell... even as noob i can agree completely01:42
aceidialmao.. ok can you help me with a problem i'm having.?01:42
Geist|Patrickthats damned weired01:42
LincTeKwhats the problem01:42
aceidiado either of you two know anyhting about cedega?01:42
penguin42aceidia: Have you considered the possibility that no one here knows anything about cedega?01:43
asdxcedega sucks01:43
anto9usstephans: http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/wpfaq-singlepage.html#INSTALL8101:43
kbrooksasdx, be nice.01:43
LincTeKI compiled winex once01:43
asdxkbrooks: why?01:43
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LincTeKcan you advertise channels here ?01:44
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dikadikai wasnot prompted for a root password durring setup what would the root password be?01:44
naliothLincTeK: preferably not01:44
aceidiaya i have but i am getting no responce at all from the cedega channels.01:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi blew a stupid fuse and my box went down01:44
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:44
penguin42dikadika: ubuntu doesn't use root - use your normal user and sudo01:44
dikadikaahh ok01:44
naliothdikadika: read what ubotu said above01:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYafter a week of faithfullness the uptime has been reset >.<01:45
Geist|Patrickhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/ <-- in which way have i to modify it so that synaptic understands it01:45
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mbirkisis there an ubuntu art project?01:45
nalioths_dogLincTeK: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines01:45
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:45
Geist|Patrickdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/openoffice.org2 main?01:45
naliothmbirkis: yes there is01:45
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thinicewhen I want to play an mp3 in xmms I get an error stating to check the soundcard's configuration (I heard the login noises) - and to check that the correct output plugin is selected ?01:46
kbrooksGeist|Patrick, apt-get openoffice.org201:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb have to reboot01:46
mbirkisnalioth: art.ubuntu.com?01:46
kbrookstry it.01:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy box got borked >.<01:46
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, how?01:46
naliothmbirkis: i'd suggest searching the wiki for "art project" or some such01:46
cafuegoa hammer accidentally fell into it01:46
mbirkisnalioth: thnx01:46
jewelthinice:  Choose the ESD output01:46
criskoltcan someone help? I installed XP, then installed Ubuntu assuming that the initial installation would automatically detect the other partition and give a boot list01:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYblew a power fuse and it went down while cleaning up vmware messes01:46
thinicejewel: from?01:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYie removing winxp for vmware >.<01:47
criskolt...not that i miss it, but i lost xp01:47
Geist|Patrickkbrooks: invalid operation01:47
criskoltand need it for work01:47
jewelthinice:  In the preferences ESD should be in the list in addition to OSS and ALSA01:47
jewelthinice:  ESD should work01:47
asdxlinux sucks01:47
naliothcriskolt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:47
cafuegoasdx: So does trolling.01:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYcriskolt send me a S.A.S.E and i'll send you a copy with key ^_^01:47
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jewelcriskolt:  Is it still on the drive or did you install over the top of it?01:48
thiniceI don't see ESD01:48
LincTeKonce you learn some linux it's not bad to use01:48
thiniceI've got...01:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope not at all01:48
jewelthinice:  That's it.  :)01:48
asdxI know linux well.. But...01:48
thiniceeSound, diskwriter, oss, and also01:48
asdxI'm kinda tired of everything01:48
jewelthinice:  It's been a while since I used xmms01:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYso brb01:48
LincTeKeven with ubuntu there is a little learning curve01:48
cafuegoasdx: nobody is forcing you to use it.01:48
kbrooksGeist|Patrick, add install01:48
LincTeKbut one of the better distro's for new people to linu x01:48
kbrooksGeist|Patrick, apt-get install openoffice.org201:49
jewelAnd is going to be even better with breezy01:49
splittaeasier than gentoo ;o)01:49
kbrooksi doubt it will work01:49
LincTeKyeah ubuntu is so new01:49
Geist|Patricki want synaptic update the sources fo that folder regulary01:49
kbrooksGeist|Patrick, uh.01:49
Geist|Patricki need a string for the sources.list01:49
kbrooksGeist|Patrick, no can do01:50
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kbrooksdont dl it directly01:50
Kyralholy shit01:50
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KyralI think I saw something that if MS pulled would DOOM us01:50
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ArkainiumHow can I get man to list all the functions in a library?  Is it possible?01:51
jewelKyral:  Why?01:51
KyralIts....XP done right...01:51
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jewelKyral:  It's still not software freedom01:51
KyralIts a step in the right direction01:52
Kyralcuts the bloat01:52
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kbrooksKyral, dude01:52
jewelKyral:  I don't think you'll ever see Microsoft go that direction01:52
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jewelKyral:  I think the whole point of Longhorn is to force everyone to buy more computers01:52
jewelKyral: err, new computers.01:52
EfaistOswhat are the modules to use an ipod ? I have a shuffle which works fine with gtkpod with USB but with a normal ipod and firewaire i cant use it ... it even didnt detect it :(01:52
splittawith more drm01:52
genniodo tou speak spanish?01:52
Kyralyah, can someone explain DRM to me?01:53
genniodo you speak spanish?01:53
jewelKyral:  I think I saw the recommended system requirements somewhere01:53
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penguin42Arkainium: You can use the 'nm' command to list all the symbols in a library01:53
naliothgennio en #ubuntu-es01:53
jewelgennio:  There are persons who speak spanish in #ubuntu-es01:53
asdxI like linux but what I hate about it is the fanatism behind it. Instead to learn from everything. I also don't like RMS and the GNU movement. They are too fanatics01:53
kbrooksKyral, the system requirements are overkill01:53
Lydondumb question, and don't flame me... but has anyone gotten MSOffice to run on Ubuntu?01:53
anto9usKyral: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management01:54
KyralUse OpenOffice </typical response>01:54
Geist|PatrickLydon: try wine01:54
gennionalioth jewel thanks01:54
LydonThe reason I ask is that I want to install it on my mother's pc but she will not do without office01:54
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splittathats ok asdx...with linux you CAN have a differnt point of view01:54
Geist|PatrickLydon: give open office a try01:54
LincTeKI heard crossover office does an ok job but use openoffice instead01:54
Arkainiumpenguin42, I give it a .a file as input?01:54
avanspronsenLydon: check out crossover office01:54
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penguin42Arkainium: Nod01:54
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Kyraloh wait, I'm a fanatic01:54
penguin42Arkainium: or a .so01:54
LydonGeist|Patrick: I like oo fine, but it's not for my computer...01:54
jphi guys, is there a gdm sessions directory? I want to add a session to gdm, how can I do that? Thanks01:55
KyralI seriously had someone call me a Linux Jedi01:55
xChillin nano editor. when i want to save a backup copy of the file. what do i do?01:55
Geist|Patrickshe should be get used with it ;)01:55
adrian_debian pure is great!01:55
Geist|Patricklet her try it a while01:55
adrian_install took me 10 minutes01:55
jeweljp: It's probably in /etc/X11/gdm01:55
xChillCtrl+O first, and then?01:55
Arkainiumpenguin42, that's cool.  but there's no way to do it with descriptions?01:55
naliothjp: open a file in /usr/share/xsessions READ-ONLY to use as a template for what you want01:55
aioadrian_ but what did you have once you had that install?01:55
jpjewel, ok let's see01:55
adrian_and i have a full workable KDE desktop01:55
jpnalioth thanks :)01:55
TokenBadanyone know of any programs like terragen or bryce for linux?01:55
LydonLincTek: I've heard you have to pay for Crossover Office?01:55
aioadrian_ and how long did it take configuring crap?01:55
LincTeKyes you do like 40 dollars01:56
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KyralLydon: How computer literate is she?01:56
adrian_configuring and installing01:56
naliothTokenBad: like blender?01:56
LincTeKthere is a month free trial01:56
kbrooksyou can grab a trial01:56
TokenBadI don't really like blender01:56
penguin42Arkainium: No01:56
Kyralie, would she notice if you renamed the OpenOffice icons "MS Office"01:56
TokenBadbut yeah guess01:56
adrian_is kopete useable for IRC?01:56
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penguin42TokenBad: It has the worlds worst userinterface01:56
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Arkainiumpenguin42, oh well.  thanks for the info01:56
LydonKyra1: she can use office. haha... that's about the extent of it... I'd say I am a moderately skilled linux user, and a very skilled windows admin01:56
adrian_Kyral,  ROFL01:56
xChillin nano editor. when i want to save a backup copy of the file. what do i do?01:56
penguin42Arkainium: Of course you can always take that list and do 'man' for them :-)01:57
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naliothxChill: save it as a differnet name01:57
LydonKyra1:... that may be worth a try ;)01:57
Geist|Patrickwell... good night guys01:57
KyralTell her its a BETTER version of MS Office01:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow that power crash hit my box hard >.<01:57
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Kyraloh wait, it is :D01:57
aioadrian_ well - i'm very glad for you.  i spent your 10 minutes installing debian pure, then over a week trying to get my stinkin video card and sound cards configured01:57
mariochhello, I'm wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from a network location?01:57
TokenBadyeah I didn't like blender that much01:57
xChillok, ty01:57
adrian_i learned that, when someone is skilled at Linux, he can do a shitload of things more with windows01:57
TokenBadbut want something like that01:57
Kyralor get pissed at Windows01:57
adrian_aio, what video card do you have?01:57
thinicehow come when I launch something from the administration dropdown and I give it the correct password it errors ?01:57
naliothadrian_: when someone is skilled with linux, they tend to leave windows alone01:58
thiniceI know it works under X as root...01:58
PhrostbyteHow do I change the K-Menu button in KDE 3.4?01:58
KyralI had to use my sisters XP Laptop to install our new router. I was in physical PAIN using it01:58
TokenBadanyone know much about ircd?01:58
adrian_nalioth, a lot of linux'ers are forced to work with windows at work01:58
RiddellPhrostbyte: change to what?01:58
aioadrian_ don't remember - it's in my workstation at work....01:58
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:58
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PhrostbyteChange the button's appearance01:58
ubotumethinks newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers01:58
naliothadrian_: and i feel sorry for them all01:58
KyralI don't wanna use Windows....I don't wanna use Windows......keep it AWAY!!01:59
PhrostbyteI want to change it from that ugly "K" to Tux Jr.01:59
aioadrian_ *but* i wonder how much better/quicker it may have configured itself if i would have used gnome...maybe not a second, but i don't know.....01:59
thinicenow I gotta kill x and start a session as root01:59
adrian_you MUST admit, Windows is good aswell01:59
kbrooksVERY good01:59
Kyralfor getting hacked....01:59
adrian_no serious01:59
KyralI am01:59
TokenBadso can can anyone recommend something besides blender?01:59
adrian_it has its plus-points02:00
xChillis there a way to load a modified /etc/X11/xorg.conf without rebooting?02:00
tiglionabbitxChill: kill X02:00
KyralxChill: Restart X02:00
adrian_it's very best point doesn't have anything to do with Windows directly02:00
jewelxChill:  Sure, just do sudo /etc/gdm restart02:00
naliothxChill: logout and switch to a text terminal ctrl-alt-f202:00
tiglionabbitxChill: just log out and hit control-alt-backspace02:00
kbrooksadrian_, what is it02:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can't freakin stand this argggghhhhh02:00
jewelxChill:  That's sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:00
adrian_the best point of windows is its overall use02:00
naliothxChill: then login to the text terminal and load your xorg02:00
tiglionabbit=P we're trying to tell him two different ways at the same time02:00
tiglionabbityou only have to do one of em02:01
adrian_95% of all software in shops are for Windows02:01
tiglionabbitadrian_: what?02:01
Kyraladrian_, go to my topic on the Community Board and look at my "The Empire vs. The Rebellion" topic02:01
naliothxChill: after that, ctrl-alt-f7 will take you back to your xserver, where you can ctrl-alt-backspace to restart it02:01
tiglionabbitadrian_: that is bug #1 on ubuntu's bugzilla02:01
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tiglionabbitadrian_: go check it out02:01
anto9usadrian_: and 95% of all software that is free is available for Linux02:01
adrian_IF WineX worked 100% perfectly02:01
Kyraland adrian_:: Cedega02:02
adrian_then Windows would be destroyed02:02
adrian_windows would be out of business02:02
kbrooksdefine destroyed02:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you kickstart a proccess thats sleeping?02:02
jeweladrian_:  There's no reason in the world it couldn't work perfectly02:02
KyralGranted you need to pay 15 for it, but yanno, its good :D02:02
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adrian_jewel, then i ask myself why none of the programs i try work :x02:02
jeweladrian_:  But it's a lot of work and there are a lot of developers who dont' care about windows software worth beans02:02
olafuraMy sound loops forever with alsa and oss, making sound useless02:02
thinicethere a quick way to starx into a different display ?02:02
adrian_yes, but it would draw an immens lot of people to Windows02:03
jeweladrian_:  It's because it's not there yet... it's getting better but it still has a long way to go02:03
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i make a proccess that i'm running stop sleeping and start doing it's thing02:03
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit kinda stalled02:03
adrian_but as long as windows progresses, Wine will never be perfect02:03
dylan_how come i cant get java to work on firefox in linux?02:03
adrian_dylan_, what hve you done to get Java to work?02:04
tiglionabbitdylan_: you should be able to02:04
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:04
ubotuit has been said that newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers02:04
anto9usadrian_: as Linux progresses Wine will become relatively redundant02:04
jeweladrian_:  Consider, for example, firefox02:04
xChilldylan_: i did this today. go to java.com. download the binfile and follow the install instructions. i am supernoob and managerd to do it02:04
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dylan_bin files do not open02:04
dylan_for me, anyways02:04
jeweladrian_:  As programs like that become popular in windows suddenly it seems pointless to get internet explorer to work perfectly in wine02:05
tiglionabbitdylan_: you can install it through synaptic if you enable the hoary-extras repository, listed here02:05
adrian_btw Kyral could you give me the url for your Empire vs. Rebellion topic?02:05
ubotuNo idea, tiglionabbit02:05
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?02:05
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ubotuhmm... backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/02:05
ubuntuer, having a little trouble02:05
tiglionabbitwho deleted my extras entry02:05
tiglionabbitwell backports is the same link anyway02:05
adrian_i can't wine Photoshop for example02:05
dylan_tiglionabbit:  thanks, tiglionabbit02:05
tiglionabbitblah, what I mean to say is this one though--02:05
adrian_or RPG Maker 200302:06
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know02:06
adrian_or even Notepad :x02:06
tiglionabbitwho deleted it02:06
ubuntuI need to reinstall grub after I installed windows over my hda1 partition (which had grub installed) I've booted the liveCD and moutned my / partition but when I run grub-install /dev/hda I get:02:06
ubunturoot@ubuntu:/mnt/work # sbin/grub-install /dev/hda102:06
ubuntu/sbin/grub: Not found.02:06
ubuntuany advice? :)02:06
naliothubuntu: type (in a terminal) 'which grub'02:06
tiglionabbitubotu sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories02:06
ubotutiglionabbit: okay02:06
tiglionabbitthere, now it's right02:07
tiglionabbitthis is the link I meant to say02:07
uboturumour has it, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories02:07
ubunturoot@ubuntu:/mnt/work/sbin # which grub02:07
ubunturoot@ubuntu:/mnt/work/sbin #02:07
Kyraladrian_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4824002:07
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Kyraland adrian_: WTF would you emulate NOTEPAD?02:07
adrian_Kyral, for testing purposes02:07
occybackports.ubuntuforums.org <-- anyone know what's up with that?02:07
dylan_could anyone help me to get a 1024x768 mode for a CRT monitor?  it only shows 800x600, nothing else02:07
naliothDalkus: type "locate grub"02:07
occyit seems to be down.02:08
tiglionabbitadrian_: use leafpad, mousepad, gedit.  There are many programs like notepad for linux02:08
ubotusomebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, extras is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories02:08
Dalkusroot@ubuntu:/mnt/work/sbin # locate grub02:08
Dalkuswarning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old02:08
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cafuegotiglionabbit: There you go, undeleted.02:08
tiglionabbitcafuego: how come when you say it it's there?02:08
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TokenBadhas anyone tried xandros?02:08
naliothDalkus: your grub has gone missing02:08
Dalkusmmm, what do I do?02:08
cafuegotiglionabbit: mysql> update factoids set factoid_key='extras' where factoid_key='extras #DEL#';02:08
tiglionabbitDalkus: locate grub, could it be a path problem?02:08
Dalkus/sbin/grub-install is there on my mounted / partition02:08
naliothDalkus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:09
Dalkusnalioth, i've been following that guide02:09
tiglionabbitcafuego: thank you02:09
naliothDalkus: and the result?02:09
Dalkusnalioth, I've mounted my old root partition under /mnt/work and have followed the instructions to excecute "/sbin/grub-install /dev hda" from inside that mount02:10
Dalkusbut I get the error02:10
xChillif i make changes to xorg.conf file. will they still be there after e.g. synaptic installs an X update?02:10
cafuego!forget test02:10
ubotucafuego: i forgot test02:10
tiglionabbitnobody threatens my box of !s02:10
Dalkus/sbin/grub: Not found.02:10
naliothDalkus: did you chroot?02:10
Dalkusmmm, nope02:10
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Dalkusroot@ubuntu:/mnt/work/sbin # chroot /mnt/work/ /bin/bash02:10
Dalkusbash: dircolors: command not found02:10
tiglionabbitxChill: yes, unless you do a "completely remove"02:11
naliothDalkus: if you're all mounted, cp the grub from the livecd02:11
LincTeKok hears a question ... when i log into ubuntu the login box dissepears and looks like it's going to load the desktop but kicks me back to the login screen .02:11
adrian_the sudo command on debian pure :D02:11
Dalkusnalioth, how do you mean? :)02:11
naliothLincTeK: any errors?02:11
LincTeKno just goes back to the login screen .. i can login to a different account and it works02:12
naliothDalkus: if you are not in a chroot environment, you should be able to "cp /path/to/livecd/grub /mounted/on/hard/drive/work/dir/"02:12
adrian_LincTeK, try ctrl-alt-backspace02:12
naliothadrian_: he said it's account specific02:13
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LincTeKI dont get the Ubuntu for humans box on the screen02:13
LincTeKyeah just 1 account02:13
adrian_try windows way02:13
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adrian_sometimes it works :D02:13
The_VoxLincTeK: you probably have chosen a DE/WM that doesn't exist...change it in the System or Session menu in the login screen02:13
tiglionabbitadrian_: no, I don't think that would help.  But the windows way I would do it is, delete the account and make a new desktop account with the same name, preferably 8  or less letters02:14
kbrookstiglionabbit, overkill02:14
tiglionabbitoh yeah, The_Vox is probably right02:14
kbrooksadrian_, why reboot?02:14
tiglionabbitclick on Sessions and pick something different02:14
TokenBadwhat was command to see free space on drives again?02:14
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tiglionabbitkbrooks: because in windows you always reboot02:14
The_VoxTokenBad: df -h02:14
kbrooksdf -h02:14
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LincTeKdf -H free space02:14
TokenBadI have the hardest time remembering that02:14
kbrooksLincTeK, h != H02:15
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The_VoxTokenBad: disk free -humans02:15
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The_VoxTokenBad: easy to remember that way :)02:15
naliothTokenBad: there is a neat little CLI proggy called 'discus'02:15
The_VoxLincTeK: -H lies to you02:15
LincTeKI can change the session on the login screen and get into a terminal02:15
dylan_how do i play The Sims on Linux?02:15
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The_VoxLincTeK: which WM/DE isn't letting you log in?02:16
The_Voxdylan_: buy the linux version?02:16
naliothdylan_: easiest way is to set a Mac on top of a linux box02:16
LincTeKdefault gnome02:16
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Dalkusto grub, would hda2 be   hd0,1    ?02:16
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tiglionabbitoh oh, -H tells you it in the terms hard disk salesmen use to rip you off02:17
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LincTeKmy son shuts down the box improperly I think the account got corrupt02:17
dylan_wait...you can install the Mac OS on a Linux box?02:17
LincTeKI was thinking of making a new account and copying my /home dir over02:17
tiglionabbitLincTeK: what happens when you try to log in with that account on the terminal?02:17
The_VoxLincTeK: I'd get in through the console and mv ~/.gnome ~/.gtk* somebackupdir02:17
Christinanyone know how to fix flash when there is no sound?02:18
ubotutiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:18
tiglionabbitChristin: there is a wiki02:18
naliothdylan_: no, you put your linux box on its side, and put your imac on top of it (sims on linux, i tried to be funny)02:18
The_VoxLincTeK: probably something in the .gnome or .gtk* stuff got corrupted02:18
LincTeKI get in with the terminal02:18
tiglionabbitChristin: but first off, I'd suggest you go through all your sound devices (right-click on the speaker) and crank the volume all the way up in them.  Things like PCM especially02:18
kbrooksnalioth, wrong.02:18
kbrooksdylan_, yes you can02:18
naliothChristin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary02:19
tiglionabbitChristin: except master..02:19
The_VoxLincTeK: move the .gnome and .gtk* stuff out of the way and try on X again...you'll have to re-do whatever configurations you may have, tho02:19
dylan_kbrooks, how do i install the Mac OS on Linux?02:19
naliothkbrooks: wrong for attempted humor?02:19
xChillhow can i check if ubuntu has drivers loaded for  my modem?02:19
tiglionabbitubotu soundproblems is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary02:19
ubotutiglionabbit: okay02:19
Christinawesome... thanks everyone02:19
kbrooksdylan_, emulators suck however02:19
kbrooksnalioth, sorry.02:19
LincTeKok Ill try that vox02:19
The_Voxdylan_: there's a Sims for linux, somebody was selling it...do a search in google and get it02:19
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naliothdylan_: you can run mac-on-linux if you run ubuntu on mac hardware02:19
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dylan_kbrooks, is there any way that i can install mac os on a linux box without using an emu?02:19
naliothdylan_: you can run mac-on-linux if you run ubuntu on mac hardware02:20
dylan_but im not02:20
tiglionabbitdylan_: uh, Macintosh tries to make it so their OS will not run on any hardware but their own02:20
naliothdylan_: then there's no way02:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need to kicks start a program i started can anyone help02:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYit seems to have stalled out02:20
virgule..thats why I aint getting another Mac anytime soon... lol02:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYand won't run02:20
kbrooksdylan_, a  linux box typically is i386 or any arch other than ppc, so you either use a emulator or give up02:20
naliothvirgule: my mac(s) run ubuntu just fine02:21
bluefoxicykbrooks:  pearpc?  cheryos? :)02:21
adrian_can you use linux on a macintosh box?02:21
naliothoh yes02:21
kbrooksbluefoxicy, cherryos is done02:21
naliothadrian_: yes, there are lots of us who do02:21
bungopolisI love how Evolution is integrated into Gnome's drop-down calender -- but it would be great to also have new email notification on the panel -- how can I achieve this?02:21
tiglionabbitadrian_: yep02:21
bluefoxicykbrooks:  was cherryos the one that was pirating pear?02:21
naliothbluefoxicy: yes02:21
kbrooksbluefoxicy, cherryos was non-free02:21
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kbrooksbluefoxicy, yes02:21
dylan_kbrooks:  ok thanks02:21
bluefoxicykbrooks:  they were ripping another one off too, IIRC02:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know?02:22
adrian_aren't cherryos cereales?02:22
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naliothadrian_: yes, they are discussing Cherry OS02:22
xChillhow can i check if ubuntu has drivers loaded for  my modem?02:22
concept10bungopolis, hold on i have a link02:23
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kbrooksxChill, lspci02:23
adrian_is Cherry OS something for Mac or was that Tiger?02:23
tiglionabbitxChill: it will have if you are able to configure it in network-admin.  You can try looking for it in system -> admin -> device manager, or lspci to see if it can see it02:23
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LincTeKarg i need my linux book02:23
tiglionabbitlinux book?  Which one?02:24
kbrooksadrian_, no. it WAS a emulator for ppc02:24
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concept10bungopolis, sudo apt-get install mail-notification02:24
LincTeKThe one i used in school for linux02:24
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LincTeKcommunity college class.. I forgot the name of the book tho02:24
xChilltiglionabbit: lcpi sees it. network manager shows it - but grey02:24
naliothadrian_: cherry os was a blatant ripoff of pearpc02:25
bungopolisgreat, thanks concept1002:25
naliothadrian_: pearpc is a x86 proggy to emulate any macintosh OS (that runs on a PPC)02:25
adrian_i'll google for pearpx02:25
LincTeKim watiing for bananna os to launch02:25
tiglionabbitxChill: that could mean it's just not activated..02:25
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adrian_oh man02:25
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xChilltiglionabbit: the "activate" button is deactivated02:26
adrian_my throat hurts so damn much :(02:26
mortarhatedoes anyone else have problems getting some window managers added to the menu pre-login02:26
LincTeKgo to the doc02:26
concept10bungopolis, http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/02:26
tiglionabbitmortarhate: you must create .desktop entries for them02:26
strugglerhoary x86 install mails message to modify /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, /etc/X11/fs-xtt/config, and /etc/X11/fs/config.  These files don't exist!?02:26
mortarhatecan you elaborate?02:26
adrian_i like KDE02:26
mortarhateor give me a link02:26
naliothmortarhate: open a file in /usr/share/xsessions READ-ONLY and use it as a template to make one for whatever dm you are after02:26
LincTeKI loaded xfce and ice wm no problem in  ubuntu02:26
adrian_it simplifies everything02:27
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mortarhatewell the login manager then read that and load the list of crap?02:27
LincTeKuseing ubuntu 4.10 a while ago02:27
dylan_what is the synaptic package for Java under Epiphany and Firefox?02:27
mortarhateand do i just put it in my home dir?02:27
naliothmortarhate: if you stick to the template02:27
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adrian_the weirdest thing of Debian-Pure is that i couldn't find a shortcut anywhere to Konsole02:27
tiglionabbitmortarhate: go to /usr/share/xsessions, and look at the other something.desktop entries.  Write one for the desktop environment you want, using the others for reference02:27
naliothmortarhate: no, your NEW .desktop file stays in /usr/share/xsessions02:27
dylan_what is the synaptic package for Java under Epiphany and Firefox?02:27
xChilltiglionabbit:  does that mean that it has drivers, or that it doesnt?02:27
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tiglionabbitxChill: I gots no idea02:28
adrian_dylan_, don't repeat02:28
nalioths_dogdylan_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 02:28
dylan_sorry, i wont repeat...didnt knw02:28
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adrian_i'm going to bed, it's 2:28AM here :(02:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone know the answer to my questions02:28
adrian_np dylan_  :D02:28
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dylan_thank you, adrian and nolioths, dog02:28
Thorrn4hello! How can I install SDL, there can an SDL error when I tried to install a program: "SDL - version >= 1.2.2"02:28
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adrian_ChurcH_of_FoamY, what question?02:28
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: ps aux | grep <whatever you are looking for>02:28
dylan_how do i only speak to a certain user on X-Chat?02:29
xChillanyone knows how i can check if ubuntu has drivers loaded for my modem and if yes which drivers?02:29
bluefoxicydylan_:  /query02:29
adrian_dylan_, /pm02:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, packages is http://packages.ubuntu.com/02:29
naliothThorrn4: its not showing in synaptic?02:29
ubotuI heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:29
mortarhateanother question... has anyone noticed the ubuntu install of blackbox doesnt config anything or create the proper directories02:29
mortarhatemaybe i should uninstall and install the version from blackbox website?02:29
tiglionabbitThorrn4: are you trying to compile something?  You will need an SDL package with a name ending in -dev02:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYholy fuck theres a ton of em runnin02:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why they won't start02:30
adrian_mortarhate, did you 'apt-get install' them?02:30
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mortarhatenot yet, first i used kynaptic02:30
mortarhatea couple of times actually02:30
mortarhateshould be the same02:30
adrian_don't use kynaptic02:30
mortarhate(i figured)02:30
adrian_use synaptic02:30
Thorrn4tiglionabbit, compiling yea02:30
mortarhatewill it make a difference?02:31
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sizzami want to be able to launch nzbperl.sh by issuing the command "nzbperl at the terminal.  would that require a symlink?02:31
adrian_is indeed the same but synaptic gives WAY more options02:31
dikadikahow would i boot the kernel with acpi disabled through grub?02:31
tiglionabbitsizzam: why not just add it to your $PATH ?02:31
mortarhatei'll look into it02:31
xChillanyone knows how i can check if ubuntu has drivers loaded for my modem and if yes which drivers?02:31
adrian_oh man02:31
Thorrn4tiglionabbit, compiling yea02:32
naliothsizzam: if that sh is in your $PATH, no02:32
adrian_if there is one thing i want Windows for:02:32
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tiglionabbitThorrn4: k, be sure you dave build-essential, and everything you need in -dev packages02:32
adrian_then it's mIRC with NNScript :(02:32
cafuegodikadika: Hit 'e' on the boot line and append 'noacpi'02:32
Thorrn4tiglionabbit, how can I do that?02:32
naliothxChill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto02:32
sizzamtiglionabbit:  thanks, i'll look into that.  correction, its a .pl file.  will i still have to issue the command with the extension?02:32
tiglionabbitadrian_: NO!  There are many things better for IRC on linux, please look around more02:32
dikadikacafuego, which line do i append that to? or just put on a new line?02:32
naliothThorrn4: open synaptic and serch for 'sdl' fine the one next the installed one ending in -dev02:33
adrian_no serious02:33
adrian_i fell in love with NNScript02:33
adrian_i just liked it SO damn much02:33
tiglionabbitadrian_: hmm really..   uh, tried irssi?02:33
tiglionabbitm.  Matter of opinion then I guess02:34
tiglionabbitbut i don't know anything about NNScript.  What is it anyway?02:34
zukalki once apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop, but it's just a pkg which depends on all the others. how can i remove *all* that's been installed?02:34
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adrian_it's a script made with the mIRC scripting language02:34
GigaClonSeveas: ESD is not a option for Stepmania. ESD can't possibly provide any guarantees whatsoever as to the timing of the sound being played02:34
GigaClon(20:28:57) roothorick: SM needs to know within about 0.5ms where in the stream is actually being played. The last time I looked at the API, you couldn't reasonably get within 50ms.02:34
xChillnalioth: well, that one is not showing me driver installation/checking tho02:35
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dylan_by installing the java.com binary file so that java will work in firefox and epiphany how do I chmod +x it?  with a root terminal?02:35
tiglionabbitzukalk: I wish I knew that.  You could use deborphan, but many of the things kubuntu installs will depend on their parts..02:35
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virguleI just installed mol-modules-source from synaptic. where is the srouce tree now?02:35
tiglionabbitdylan_: yes02:35
adrian_where is fstab/mtab?02:35
virgulein /etc/02:35
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zukalktiglionabbit, i was wonderin' if it's safe to remove everything that's in the 'kde' apt section02:36
naliothxChill: wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex  and look for yourself02:36
zukalktiglionabbit, you can see those kde packages in the synaptic categories02:36
tiglionabbitzukalk: it should be safe to remove anything that doesn't make APT complain and delete your base install with it02:36
naliothzukalk: safe as in what way?02:36
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xChillnalioth: thx, looking already02:36
zukalknalioth, as in not removing anything important to the system02:36
naliothzukalk: nah, you'll just lose all your kde apps02:36
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zukalknalioth, ah, good02:37
bungopolisI find `apt-get remove apt-get` quite useful02:37
tiglionabbitbungopolis: what purpose would that serve, other than to make your ubuntu install very boring and immutable?02:37
tiglionabbitdoes it even let you do that?02:37
bungopolistiglionabbit it makes for good conversation on IRC02:37
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adrian_where is the sudoers file? :/02:38
zukalknah, the package's called 'apt'02:38
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gangaleeI ran out of space during a Warty->Hoary upgrade... the last message was "Setting up libeel2-dev (2.10.0-0ubuntu1) ... dpkg: error processing libeel2-dev (--configure): failed to write status record about 'python-eunuchs' to '/var/lib/dpkg/status':No space left on device  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)02:38
bungopolisgood point zukalk02:38
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naliothadrian_: why do you ask?02:38
gangaleehow do I recover/continue from this?02:38
gangaleeanyway to flush out more space?02:38
ubotuvirgule: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:38
tiglionabbitoh neat, Synaptic stops you.  "Removing this package may render the system unusable.  Are you sure you want to do that?"02:38
naliothgangalee: livecd02:38
zukalktiglionabbit, you tried to remove apt? :P02:39
ubotuI heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories02:39
adrian_because i'm on Debian Pure, i downloaded the sudo package but my account isn't written in the sudoers file02:39
gangaleenalioth: no CD drive02:39
naliothgangalee: remove/tranfer big stuff02:39
dylan_what is fakeroot make-jpkg?02:39
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naliothadrian_: you need 'visudo'02:39
adrian_tiglionabbit, are you running KDE for the moment?02:39
naliothadrian_: run that as root02:39
gangaleenalioth: then what to restart/resume the upgrade?02:39
dylan_do i have to install some other packages for fakeroot make-jpkg to work?02:39
tiglionabbitadrian_: nope02:39
adrian_bash: visudo: command not found02:39
kbrooksdylan_, dont worry about it02:40
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tiglionabbitadrian_: I meant it says that when you try to remove "apt"02:40
naliothgangalee: whatever commend you issued to initiate the original session (apt-get upgrade, i guess)02:40
adrian_i was confused with the guy removing kubuntu_desktop :D02:40
naliothadrian_: you have to run "sudo visudo"02:40
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gangaleenalioth: I can tell you're an expert :) Redo the whole upgrade? It's being logged, is there a way to restart from the last point?02:41
tiglionabbithe can't sudo, remember?02:41
naliothadrian_: it uses vi keyboard command input02:41
tiglionabbitadrian_: just become root and then visudo02:41
bungopolisI installed mail-notification but it doesn't let me connect to SSL/TLS servers, the option is grayed out. I saw on the site that openssl was a dependency for this, so i installed that too. I still dont have the ability to connect -- what gives?02:41
kbrookstiglionabbit, ERM02:41
ubotuvirgule: Bugger all, i dunno02:41
tiglionabbitadrian_: like, su02:41
kbrooksroor is unpassworded02:41
adrian_i filled it in uncorrectly02:41
naliothgangalee: if you clean off the pR0n/music, and issue "apt-get upgrade", it should continue from where it left02:41
kbrookstiglionabbit, You cannot do su02:41
adrian_that is for tomorrow02:42
tiglionabbitkbrooks: I thought he had a non-typical install02:42
virgulewhat is the name of the kernel source package?02:42
kbrooksadrian_, ping02:42
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adrian_what ping?02:42
naliothbungopolis: there isnt a gmail option in it?02:42
kbrooksadrian_, what distro?02:42
adrian_Debian Pure02:42
gangaleenalioth: Thx, you're right, it is the porn -"bootytalk24.rar"02:42
virgulewhat is the name of the kernel source package?02:42
shortcircuitis there a way i can install multiple versions of librarys to work out dependancy issues?02:42
bungopolisnalioth, there is, but it says its broken. I'm just going to use pop.gmail.com for my gmail, but that requires SSL, and my other accounts also require SSL/TLS.02:42
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naliothgangalee: and i need that to complete my collection, too! lol02:43
dylan_kbrooks why should i not worry about it?02:43
adrian_normal Debian with packages included02:43
thiniceget this...02:43
kbrooksadrian_, ok, just checking02:43
thiniceI can hear sound perfectly when I loginto x as root02:43
naliothbungopolis: apt remove the mail notification02:43
thinicebut not as a user02:43
kbrookstiglionabbit, i thought he had ubuntu02:43
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gangaleenalioth: If you have ghettobooty9, we can trade02:43
bungopolisnalioth -- but... I want the mail notification02:43
adrian_it's a look-a-like of Ubuntu :D02:43
bungopolisnalioth - you mean to reinstall?02:43
tiglionabbitthinice: make sure the user is in the audio group, using system -> admin -> users and groups.  And uh, DONT use X as ROOT02:43
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naliothbungopolis: i was gonna suggest you install the ssl dev libs and have apt build you mail-notification02:44
thinicetiglionabbit: I know that was a naughty thing but I had to know :D02:44
adrian_Bye bye02:44
thinicealso I got another question02:44
adrian_i'm off to bed02:44
mortarhatewhere is that xsession directory again02:44
tiglionabbitthinice: o02:44
thinicewhen I -do- use the administration panels from the menu, I enter my root pw and it says it's an invalid pass02:44
naliothmortarhate: /usr/share/xsession02:44
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/02:44
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nalioththinice: there is no root pass02:44
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nalioththinice: use YOUR pass02:44
tiglionabbitnalioth: he said he logged in as root, so he must have made one02:44
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tiglionabbitnalioth: his issue is with sound =P02:44
nalioththen i'm lost on that one02:45
thinicenalioth: is this a 'whishful thinking of the force' or.. is it .. for real ?02:45
tiglionabbitnalioth: I suggested he add that user to the audio group02:45
kbrooksnalioth, sudo passwd02:45
kbrookshint hint02:45
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nalioththinice: am not familiar with your case, sorry02:45
naliothkbrooks: i have no need for a root account, i get by just fine with sudo02:45
thinicefailed to run users-admin: child terminated with 1 status02:45
naliothkbrooks: and the funny thing is: i've enabled sudo on previous linux that i've run02:46
thinicesays that on both passwords02:46
kbrooksnalioth, maybe he executed that command.02:46
nalioththinice: run from the terminal02:46
tiglionabbitthinice: it also could be that your volume levels are misconfigured.  I found gnome to screw them up sometimes when I run out of batteries.  Just right-click on your speaker icon and go through every single device and crank it up.  Especially PCM ones02:46
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thinicewhat speaker icon...02:46
tiglionabbitthinice: the one on your gnome panel, top right, should be by the date02:47
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tiglionabbitthinice: if it's not there, right-click on the panel and add one02:47
thiniceactually I went into volume control and it says there's no device02:47
thiniceI'll add me to audio group02:48
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tiglionabbitthinice: system -> preferences -> multimedia device selector02:48
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tiglionabbitthinice: switch it to alsa and test it02:48
dylan_is there a way to get rhythmbox to act as iTunes so that i can transfer songs to and fro?02:48
virguleooooh : --- Error: Unconfigured kernel source! -> how do I configure it please?02:48
shortcircuitis there a way i can install multiple versions of librarys to work out dependancy issues?02:48
kbrooksthinice, __please__ *DO NOT* run X as root.02:48
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tiglionabbitshortcircuit: chroot.  But be sure you know what you're doing02:48
kbrookstiglionabbit, overkill02:49
tiglionabbitkbrooks: I know02:49
shortcircuittiglionabbit, is there a howto?02:49
kbrookstiglionabbit, 100%02:49
tiglionabbitshortcircuit: depends on what exactly you're trying to resolve here02:49
tiglionabbitdeb distros aren't really designed for multiple libraries02:49
kbrookstiglionabbit, why chroot when you can install the specific lib?02:49
tiglionabbitI mean multiple versions of them02:49
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shortcircuittiglionabbit,  im trying to get dvd::rip it wants all old libs02:49
thinicetiglionabbit: I switched it from OSS, eSound and Alsa, nogo.02:49
tiglionabbitkbrooks: heh, well I don't know, could you explain it to me?02:49
thinicekbrooks: i -KNOW-, it wasn't a permanent thing...02:50
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kbrooksah. well,  i installed a specific version of binutils, and it didnt even conflict02:50
mortarhatei dont have synaptic02:50
kbrooks(for a specific app)02:50
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tiglionabbitthinice: tried turning up the volume on every single possible volume thingy?02:50
mortarhatemaybe because im running kubuntu02:50
mortarhateand blackbox still doenst insatll properly with apt-get02:50
kbrooksmortarhate, kynaptic02:50
mortarhateyea i used that02:51
mortarhatesomeone told me to use synaptic02:51
mortarhatebecause kynaptic wasnt configing crap02:51
tiglionabbittime for me to eat dinner, talk to you guys later02:51
thiniceI did02:51
kbrooksshortcircuit, well02:52
thinicehow can I set my UID ?02:52
thiniceI forgot...02:52
kbrooksthinice, dont change it02:52
kbrookswhy do you want to?02:52
kbrookssome apps depend on the uid02:52
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thinicebecause mandrake linux uses 500's and has no prob with sound.02:52
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aceidiacan any one help me with getting my video card drivers?02:53
kbrooksthinice, because it uses aRts02:53
kbrooksaceidia, Easy. Er, wait02:54
kbrooksthinice, the frontend is aRts02:54
kbrookson mdk02:54
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thiniceand frontends matter ... ?02:54
kbrooksaceidia, What video card do you have?02:54
aceidiamatrox gefore 44002:55
kbrooksNo.. the underlying program does matter02:55
kbrooksaceidia, geforce?02:55
aceidiaya that would be the one.. lmao02:55
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kbrooksaceidia, OK. pastebin the output of lspci02:56
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aceidiawhat.? i;m new to the system i have no clue what you mean..02:57
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Scognitois there a way to speed hotplug during boot? it takes about 40 seconds02:57
sizzamif i want to add to my $PATH variable, should i edit .bash_profile?02:57
kbrooksaceidia, A newbie eh?02:57
aceidiayup... lmao. just ditched windows..02:57
aceidiaabout 4 nights ago.02:57
kbrooksaceidia, heh. i ditched it last year02:57
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kbrooksaceidia, Does your desktop display well?02:58
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kbrooksWith the card in?02:58
aceidia.. i can only run at 1024x768...02:59
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aceidiaand it picks it up as pci not agp..02:59
zukalktiglionabbit, i installed every pkg under 'kde' category. well, nothing's blown up so far02:59
zukalktiglionabbit, uninstalled*02:59
kbrooksAh. So you want a bigger resolution.02:59
aceidiathat and  i need the drivers that let me use direct draw so i can use an emulator to play a game..02:59
kbrooksaceidia, Well. This can be solved with the u...wait03:00
mortarhateand why does blackbox mess with my resolution ;)03:00
kbrooksmortarhate, X detects the best resolution for your monitor and uses it.03:00
mortarhatewell kde it used the highest03:00
kbrooksmortarhate, Not blackbox03:00
tiglionabbitzukalk: k good.  Just watch for when it says "Uninstalling this may render your system unusable".  Don't agreed to that =P03:00
mortarhateand blackbox changes it to really low03:00
mortarhateso how does that wokr03:00
zukalktiglionabbit, i'll keep that in mind ;)03:00
kbrooksmortarhate, No idea.03:01
kbrooksaceidia, DirectDraw is proprietary.03:01
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ubotusomebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:01
aceidiaok how do i enable it.?03:01
kbrooksaceidia, It is not installable under Linux without the usage of a emulator03:02
_simpleanybody can help me get intel 915gv express chipset graphics running on ubuntu03:02
_simplecan anybody03:02
aceidiaok which one i am using cedega right now... but i don;t know if it will work..03:02
nalioth_simple: open a terminal03:02
tiglionabbitmortarhate: if you want, you can remove resolutions from the "Modes" lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make sure it wont use those resolutions.  However, this may cause progams to crash if they reeely need those modes03:03
nalioth_simple: what does your ubuntu show now when it starts?03:03
mortarhatei was thinking about that03:03
kbrooksaceidia, Cedega? Heh.03:03
_simpleuser name @ hostname:~$ ?03:03
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_simplei think you mean..03:03
_simpleor you mean the gdm login ?03:03
nalioth_simple: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose (when it asks) VESA for the driver03:04
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kbrooksSounds like you know a lot about Linux, _simple03:04
nalioth_simple: gdm login?03:04
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aceidiaya i was using it to try and play some games but it keeps giving me problems... like unreadable get more fonts and now direct draw..03:04
kbrooksnalioth, ARE you SURE vesa will work for my card 100%?03:04
alex__i need help setting up vsftpd03:04
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_simpleknowing what a gdm screen is and what the terminal is and what is shown in it is about the extent and not alot :D03:04
naliothkbrooks: all modern video chips are VESA compatible03:04
kbrooksnalioth, OK03:05
nalioth_simple: if you get a gdm login, what is the problem?03:05
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_simplelike.. running a screensaver that's 3d completely runs slow like 1fps or something03:05
tiglionabbiteverything should work with vesa.  Just not very well03:05
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naliothkbrooks: you don't get 3d, you dont get fancy rendering, but you do get a display in multiple resolutions03:05
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nalioth_simple: ok then try the vesa thing03:06
_simplestuff like that03:06
_simplei did, i don't see "intel"03:06
alex__i go into vsftpd, and can't log in03:06
nalioth_simple: you are not choosing 'intel', you are choosing VESA03:06
_simpleshould the bus identifier filled in be default?03:07
_simpleand the one i use03:07
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bob2leave it blank03:07
karnage-i DESPERATELY need to upgrade to PHP 4.3.11 or 4.4.0, as opposed to the current 4.3.10. Does anyone know where I can track down the .deb packages for this?03:07
nalioth_simple: i'd answer all of them but the 'driver' the defaults03:07
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HrdwrBoBkarnage-: there's a debian LAMP page with packages03:08
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kbrooksHrdwrBoB, NO!03:08
alex__i can't log into vsftpd03:08
karnage-HrdwrBoB: where?03:08
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HrdwrBoBkbrooks: probably no, I don't use them03:08
dylan_is there a way to install java via synaptic?03:08
HrdwrBoBI just compile php503:08
naliothkarnage-: it is not a good idea to mix debian pkgs into ubuntu03:08
SDFH_Linuxwhats the program you need to see ART images?03:09
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:09
G|immercan someone remind me of the URL where these chatlogs are kept?03:09
AegirBah, its not *that* bad to install Debian packages03:09
karnage-nalioth: well I need to upgrade to a newer version of PHP, and compiling from source isnt an option03:09
kbrooksit is03:09
HrdwrBoBkarnage-: it isn't03:09
kbrooks@ Aegir03:09
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kbrookskarnage-, why?03:09
mick_could some one walk me through how to install vlc03:09
AegirNever has been in my experiance kbrooks03:09
tiglionabbit!info vlc03:09
naliothkarnage-: you can't compile?03:10
naliothmick_: open a terminal03:10
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB03:10
karnage-i have a minimal server install for a firewall/webserver, so to compile PHP from source it wants to install over 100 packages!03:10
AegirObviously dont put a whole debian repository in, but the ocasional package wont cause the end of the world03:10
mick_!info vlc03:10
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tiglionabbitI can, as soon as I finish this popsicle03:10
naliothmick_: that wont get you a walkthrough03:10
kbrooksAegir, well  dont advice noobs to install debian packages03:10
HrdwrBoBkarnage-: you can compile it on another machine03:10
ubotumethinks multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia03:10
kbrooksHrdwrBoB, bad idea03:10
sizzamanyone available for some $PATH assistance03:10
Aegirkbrooks, And how am I supposed to know he's a noob?03:10
bob2karnage-: if you desperately need it, you desperately have to compile it yourself03:10
HrdwrBoBkbrooks: not really03:10
bob2karnage-: what's so special about the new minor version?03:11
kbrooksAegir, *in general*03:11
naliothAegir: assume everyone is a new user, unless you've seen them enough to know different03:11
Aegirkbrooks, I treat everyone on irc as reasonably intelligent03:11
dylan_how do i install java?03:11
HrdwrBoBAegir: that's taking it a bit too far :)03:11
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kbrooksnalioth, that's what I do03:11
dylan_without using the .bin file?03:11
naliothdylan_: did you go to that URL?03:11
karnage-4.3.10 has bugs with INSERT and UPDATE queries when talking to Sybase servers, which is EXACTLY what I need to do, and it doesnt work03:11
ubotuvirgule: I give up, what is it?03:11
tiglionabbitwhat are you guys talking about here?03:11
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karnage-so i DESPERATELY need to install a newer version03:11
kbrooksnalioth, although I ask if they are newbies first03:11
karnage-apparently the problem is fixed in 4.3.1103:12
virgulecan I tell ubotu to give https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto as !mol answer?03:12
tiglionabbitmick_: I can help you out now, ready?03:12
bob2karnage-: then you'll have to compile it, sorry.  or convince the ubuntu release managere that it's worth fixing in hoary.03:12
naliothvirgule: if you wish03:12
kbrooksbob2, its a minor issue to me03:12
sizzami added a new location to my $PATH variable in .bash_profile.  I rebooted, when i echo $PATH in gnome, the new location isn't there.  but, if i ctrl+alt+f1 and echo $PATH, its there03:12
bob2yes, I agree03:12
virguleubotu mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help03:12
kbrooksand i dont think the managers would be convinced03:12
ubotuokay, virgule03:12
karnage-im building another ubuntu box with a full install... can i compile it on this box and somehow move to my minimal server?03:13
tiglionabbit!info vlc03:13
bob2karnage-: not simply03:13
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB03:13
kbrooksbob2, a security fix is by definition not a "bug"03:13
bob2kbrooks: what?03:13
kbrooksand since that is a bug....they wont be convinced03:13
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kbrooksbob2, a bug is NOT a security fix03:14
karnage-theres 4.3.11 .deb packages available there03:14
bob2karnage-: I'd really recommend against using those03:14
karnage-can i try them?03:14
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bob2karnage-: I have no idea what you're trying to say03:14
kbrookskarnage-, bad idea to mix debian and ubuntu03:14
bob2er, kbrooks03:14
HrdwrBoBkarnage-: that's what I was tlaking about03:14
naliothkarnage-: you've been warned by enough different folks, go ahead if you wish03:14
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HrdwrBoBkbrooks: they're not debian packeh03:14
HrdwrBoBkarnage-: worst case scenario it doesn't work03:14
kbrooksHrdwrBoB, so?03:14
bob2karnage-: building those from source would probably be ok03:15
HrdwrBoBso given that it doesn't work right now03:15
HrdwrBoBit's not exactly a step backwards03:15
karnage-i cant compile from source!!03:15
kbrooksbob2: a bug is not a security fix. there needs to be a *serious security flaw* in php in order for a new version to be packaged up03:15
tiglionabbitkarnage-: get build-essential, and the -dev libs you need03:15
naliothkarnage-: you won't compile from source, there is a difference03:15
ubotuI haven't a clue, tiglionabbit03:15
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HrdwrBoBkarnage-: yes you can03:16
HrdwrBoBkarnage-: you can compile the deb on another ubuntu machine03:16
bob2karnage-: you compile the *packages*, then install the resulting .debs03:16
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SDFH_Linuxwhats the program you need to see ART images?03:16
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bob2kbrooks: er, yes, I know how it works03:16
_simplehmm *oh well* didn't change anything03:16
tiglionabbitSDFH_Linux: please run the command "file" on that file, and tell me what it says03:16
bob2kbrooks: serious bugs can potentially be fixed in a stable release, too03:16
SDFH_Linuxits has the extensiion .art03:17
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coolkevhow do i list all my drives/partitions03:17
tiglionabbitSDFH_Linux: I know.  Please run "file" on it03:17
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karnage-fck it... im installing build-essential03:17
bob2coolkev: you can't, simply03:17
SDFH_Linuxi cant download the file03:17
tiglionabbitSDFH_Linux: know how to use the terminal?03:17
buulianHow do you format a usb flash disk?03:17
hondjebob2: On an interesting note, those problems I was having with ls complaining about I/O turned out to be software, but I can't track down where it came from03:17
bob2buulian: with mkfs03:17
bob2hondje: they were coming from the kernel03:18
sizzami added a new location to my $PATH variable in .bash_profile.  I rebooted, when i echo $PATH in gnome, the new location isn't there.  but, if i ctrl+alt+f1 and echo $PATH, its there03:18
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kbrooksbob2, define 'simply'03:18
Aegir^coolkev, 'df' for disk usage, mount to simply list mounted partitions, and also you can use the various partioning programs03:18
bob2kbrooks: what?03:18
ralfsizzam: use .bashrc instead03:18
tiglionabbitsizzam: you need to use .bashrc I believe03:18
sizzamjust add it to the bottom?03:18
hondjewell yeah, but I can't figure out what update caused it, or if it was some cosmic bitflipping...not nearly enough to get a good bug report in03:18
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tiglionabbitsizzam: and btw, you don't need to reboot.  Use "source .bashrc" to update things according to that file03:18
kbrooksbob2, what do you mean by 'simply'03:18
ralfedit .bashrc instead of .bash_profile03:18
karnage-should i remove all PHP4 stuff through APT before compiling PHP4 from source?03:18
naliothsizzam: it doesnt really matter, the whole file is parsed03:19
sizzamtiglionabbit:  awesome, thanks03:19
Aegir^karnage-, Yes03:19
sizzamthanks, will give it a go03:19
kitchenhow does one cope with md5sum mismatch (libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb) ?03:19
karnage-i'll give it a crack03:19
ralfand do: echo '. ~/.bashrc' >> ~/.bash_profile03:19
kbrookskarnage-, No. Linux is NOT windows03:19
bob2karnage-: I was talking to coolkev, not you.  I meant "simply" in the sense "there is no simple way that I know of to reliably enumerate hard disks from user space"03:19
bimbericoolkev: sudo fdisk -l03:19
bob2kitchen: don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com03:19
tiglionabbitkitchen: is it with the us servers?  Edit your sources.list and delete "us." in all of the urls03:19
kbrooksbob2, ok03:19
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ubotuwell, usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list03:19
Aegir^karnage-, Although it will install over the top, and if you then go to remove the packages, their is a good chance it will also remove the compiled source. Keep the source around aswell, as you can run 'make uninstall' to uninstall it03:20
kbrooksAegir, watch it03:20
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Aegir^Bugger off kbrooks03:20
kitchenok, if that so well known, why isn't usrepos fixed? :-)03:20
mick_hey how i go about installing new codecs such as xvid03:20
kbrooksAegir, 'make uninstall' is rarely implemented03:20
tarvidtrying to install an HP 4000n on Hoary03:20
bob2kitchen: it's been intermittent03:20
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Aegir^kbrooks, It has worked for every single app I've compiled by source.03:21
bob2mick_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, linked from the wiki03:21
Aegir^Thus it works good enough for me03:21
tarvidUnable to get printer status (server-error-operation-not-supported)!03:21
buulianwhat's the best fs type to use on a usb flash device?03:21
kbrooksAegir^, 'every single app'?03:21
bob2er, s/wiki/faq/03:21
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sproingiemake uninstall is a standard target of automake03:21
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Aegir^kbrooks, Yes03:21
bob2buulian: if you care about windows being able to use it, fat3203:21
kitchenbuulian probably one of the ms ones so you can use it on a windows box03:21
bob2buulian: if not, ext203:21
kbrookssproingie, then why wont projects adopt automake?03:21
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buulianbob2, thanks03:22
sproingiekbrooks: because automake is a festering pile of dung03:22
Hackmocan anyone help me get my webcam working?03:22
tiglionabbitbob2: why ext22 and not ext3?03:22
kbrookssproingie, what do you mean?03:22
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Aegir^Hmm, I've used it succesfully on source that doesnt use automake. Hmmm...03:22
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bob2tiglionabbit: journalling on flash sounds to me like it's gong to wear it out quicker03:22
naliothtiglionabbit: ext3 has journaling03:22
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bob2tiglionabbit: I may just be paranoid03:22
kbrookstiglionabbit, because checks smack flash03:22
kbrooksand wear it out03:23
sproingiekbrooks: like the rest of autotools, it doesnt work on non-unix platforms.  requires a whole bunch of external tools.  and it creates monolothic unmaintainable makefiles with disgustingly verbose unreadable output03:23
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sproingiekbrooks: probably the worst thing about it is that it uses libtool, which creates .so files that don't even WORK if you just copy them around03:24
bob2#ubuntu-offtopic, folks03:24
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bob2especially since not all that is correct03:24
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naliothbob2: so #ubuntu-hotair? lol03:25
bob2or deopping03:25
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Aegir^Mmm, scons with jam... *drool*03:25
tiglionabbitWarning: Could not open joystick -1.03:26
tiglionabbitThe Simple DirectMedia error that occured was:03:26
tiglionabbitThere are 1 joysticks available03:26
tiglionabbit^^  uh...03:26
tiglionabbitmost games I run are saying that to me.  I just plugged in my usb joystick.  It usually works03:26
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=== sproingie wonders what happened to all the joystick-using PC games
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Aegir^Now everyone can bitch at each other on the same level03:27
tiglionabbitsproingie: neverball and supertux use the joystick03:27
tiglionabbitsproingie: I'm using a playstation controller, actually03:27
sproingieah yes03:28
needsomehelpanyone know how long transcode takes wth dvd::rip to make an xvid? it said on my system eta 6 hours just wondering if this is normal03:28
Aegir^Joystick is only good for flying planes and helicopters in games :)03:28
naliothneedsomehelp: what system specs?03:28
sproingiethe space fighter combat game is just dead.  too bad, i rather liked that genre03:28
needsomehelpp4 2.8ghz with 1gig ram03:28
Aegir^sproingie, Me too. Freelancer was the last decent sci-fi game. And it used mouse-keyboard03:28
sproingiefreespace2 just gave you a real sense of dread in some of the missions, you're saying "holy crap, that thing is BIG"03:29
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naliothneedsomehelp: you should be over the halfway point03:29
Aegir^I want more sci-fi games...03:29
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needsomehelpwell so its not minutes like some guides state03:29
needsomehelpits actually hours03:29
G|immergood night guys.03:30
tiglionabbithey guys, how will linux treat me if I make a fat32 /home partition?03:30
naliothneedsomehelp: yes it is03:30
Aegir^tiglionabbit, Well, it shouldnt physically gobble you up and eat you. It may murder your pets though =/03:30
naliothneedsomehelp: took me over 6 hours just to rip/encode 1 chapter off a dvd on my G4 ibook03:30
tiglionabbitAegir^: but I love my pets03:30
sproingietiglionabbit: it will hate you forever and call you in the middle of the night and hang up just to freak you out03:30
naliothtiglionabbit: you'll have no ext filesystem goodness03:31
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othernoobnalioth but 6 hours sound a bit long03:31
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virgulecrap startmol keep telling me there is no kernel modules - I just followed instructions on the wiki :(03:31
needsomehelpsomething kinda tells me its not worth it :)03:31
sproingietiglionabbit: you'll have no permissions.  you'll have everything owned by one user, usually root03:31
tiglionabbitnalioth: what goodness is that?  I already expect that it will forget the rwx status of my files...03:31
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naliothothernoob: is it still an active process?03:31
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naliothtiglionabbit: and no journaling03:31
sproingieand it'll be slow03:31
tiglionabbitsproingie: can I make it owned by all users?03:31
sproingieand it'll smell funny03:32
sproingietiglionabbit: yes, you can set the umask to 000 and make everything world-writable03:32
othernoobnalioth: i'm not ripping and encoding anymore, but even on my old computer it didn't take 6 hours.03:32
tiglionabbitwoo, voltaire03:32
aserpeI'm having a problem installing phpBB from Synaptic Package Manager03:32
sproingietiglionabbit: this would be "not recommended"03:32
tiglionabbitsproingie: hmm, yes03:32
GigaClonmy RealPlayer is broken03:32
aserpecan anyone help me?03:32
tiglionabbitcan I make it so only desktop users can use it?03:32
tiglionabbitI mean users with desktop accounts, rather than basic ones03:32
GigaClonI installed it but everytime I run it nothing happends03:32
naliothothernoob: i dont know, i've only ripped a chapter from a dvd (and it took over 6 hours on my G4 ibook)03:33
GigaClonbut the process is still there03:33
sproingietiglionabbit: not really.  you can use a group if you want03:33
othernoobnalioth: it used to take me about 4-5 hours on an amd1333 with 512mb ram for a dvd to divx/xvid03:33
aserpeWhere does the phpbb package install?03:33
tiglionabbitGigaClon: try using xine or mplayer instead03:33
tiglionabbitGigaClon: you can get w32codecs from hoary-extras03:33
ubotuhmm... sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories03:33
sproingietiglionabbit: i'd only use fat32 for interchange, like when you have to have dvd images shared between both OS's03:33
naliothothernoob: well my G4 ibook is well under that03:33
needsomehelpis there any methood faster?03:33
needsomehelpor is this abut it03:34
naliothsproingie: keep the fat32 filesize limit in mind03:34
bob2aserpe: "dpkg -L phbb" will show you where the files went03:34
sproingienalioth: oh yeah.  cd images only i guess03:34
tiglionabbitsproingie: thing is, I only have 80 gigs on this laptop, and I wanted to install several OSs alongside windows...  but...  where would I put windows' stuff?  It's fat32, but I want to cut down on the space it has all to itself03:34
aserpethanks bob203:34
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naliothtiglionabbit: dump windows03:34
sproingietiglionabbit: linux can read ntfs.  it's just writing it has problems with03:35
tiglionabbitnalioth: but it's tabletPC edition, and it has some neat ink features linux can't do03:35
tiglionabbitsproingie: I know about that.  I'm happy with keeping my windows stuff fat32 though03:35
GigaClonwhat is the fat32 filesize limit?03:36
maggotbrainsproingie: you can use explore2fs on your win OS. it can read ext2 ext3 partitions.03:36
aserpebob2: It looks like it put everything into /usr/share ... but isn't the web server in /var/www???03:36
tiglionabbitsize limit?03:36
sproingietiglionabbit: i guess if it works for you.  anyway, i wouldn't recommend putting /home on fat32.  you can always mount the windows partition in a different dir03:36
othernoob4 gb i think GigaClon03:36
maggotbrainthat is if you don't need to write to the partition from windows03:36
bob2aserpe: it will have symlinked it to apache's root, or have addeda config file to apache03:36
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sproingiemaggotbrain: there's that, tho i thought there was an actual ext2 fs driver for nt once?03:36
tiglionabbitI want to write to the partition from windows03:36
tiglionabbitand linux03:37
maggotbrainhaven't come across one, lately03:37
aserpebob2: how do I find it using my browser then?  Where can I find the location for the www.domain.com/foo?03:37
sproingietiglionabbit: nothing stops you fom having a fat32 partition somewhere.  i just wouldn't make it /home, that's all03:37
bob2aserpe: look at the list of files it printed...is there one in /etc/?03:38
tiglionabbithm.  I want the advantages that come from having a /home partition, and being able to use it as one place for all my documentsn03:38
bob2/home/ on fat32 will be bad.  e.g. ssh and gpg will cry.03:38
tiglionabbitI've got a lot of doodles to organize03:38
tiglionabbitwhat would ssh and gpg care about?03:38
aserpebob2: yes, several... but I assume you mean /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf?03:38
bob2file permissions03:38
naliothtiglionabbit: security03:39
tiglionabbitfor what reason?  It's just /home, not /03:39
bob2just have /home/ on ext3 or something, and symlink a from /home/you/data/ to /media/bigfat32drive/03:39
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bob2tiglionabbit: e.g. it makes my private key not be readable to random other people on the machine03:39
sproingiei guess if you're dead set on it being /home03:39
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naliothtiglionabbit: i have my OSX partition symlinked into my /home03:39
sproingiejust keep in mind that your ~/.ssh dir will have no protections03:39
derekvancei got a usb headset, is it compatible? if so, how do i make it work?03:39
sproingiein fact ssh will refuse to use any of your keys03:39
tiglionabbitwell yeah guys, I have a link in my linux home dir to my windows documents, but still, I want a documents area I can write to by both OSs03:40
tiglionabbitnot just linux03:40
bob2derekvance: what happens when you plug it in?03:40
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bob2tiglionabbit: so, put your documents on a fat32 partition, easy03:40
derekvancethe status light but no sound03:40
tiglionabbitbob2: then what's the point of having a home partition?03:40
bob2derekvance: there won't be any sound automatically03:40
sproingietiglionabbit: /home is not "my documents readable to the world".  see my note about ssh03:41
bob2tiglionabbit: huh?  to put user data on, in a way that won't let them overflow / and can be saved over reinstalls of /.03:41
derekvanceis there a way to config it or any apps i can get for it?03:41
tiglionabbitbob2: You think I should make a home partition that's 100 bytes with just a link to windows or something?  lol03:41
bob2tiglionabbit: /home/ is for "user data", not for "globally readable porn .avis"03:41
naliothtiglionabbit: so your whole family can have their own personal computer all in one box03:41
sproingietiglionabbit: i don't know why you're dead set about having it in /home and not, say, /docs03:41
sproingiebut i've said my piece03:42
bob2tiglionabbit: of course not, read what I said again.  put all your normal stuff (e.g. gnome config, ssh, etc) on /home/you/, and put your documents you want to share in /home/you/data/.03:42
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tiglionabbit  /docs ?03:42
aserpebob2:  There's a line here that says "Alias /phpbb /usr/share/phpbb2/site"  Does that mean www.domain.com/phpbb/ is the forum?  and if I want to change it to something like www.domain.com/forum/ that I change that first part of the aliase?03:42
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spermie_411be a valid cursor theme archive.03:42
spermie_411spermie_411 spermie_411 i get that when trying to install a new mouse theme03:42
bob2aserpe: yes and yes03:42
naliothtiglionabbit: make a subdirectory in your /home to symlink /dev/tigs_windows_partition  to03:42
tiglionabbithmm, I guess that's a good idea03:42
bob2derekvance: I'd assume you'd have to do a fair amount of fiddling03:42
spermie_411spermie_411 spermie_411 5533-Silver-XCursors-3D-0.4.tar.bz2  <~~ thats what it is03:42
aserpebob2: thank you, kudos03:42
sproingietiglionabbit: you're aware you can mount any partition to any directory, no?03:42
tiglionabbitsproingie: yes03:42
phzianyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?03:42
phziI am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)03:42
bob2phzi: try #alsa or so03:43
phziI have03:43
sproingiemkdir /docs; mount -t fat32  /dev/<whatever> /docs03:43
phzibob2: it didn't do me any good03:43
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bungopolisI've manually installed a deb -- it's an older version of the one in the ubuntu repository (but has a feature which is not available in ubuntu's due to licensing),  how can I prevent apt from thinking I need to upgrade to their version?03:43
tiglionabbitsee the thing is, I was thinking of installing gentoo as well, and I thought it would be good to have a central home, instead of 303:43
bob2phzi: then try asking on their mailing list03:43
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bob2bungopolis: /msg ubotu hold03:43
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derekvanceokey doke well i dont care03:43
bob2bungopolis: note that aptitude and synaptic will ignore that03:44
bob2tiglionabbit: that is not incompatible with what anyone has said so far03:44
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tiglionabbitthis would probably really screw me up when I download source code and try to 'make' it..  wont it03:44
bob2tiglionabbit: except that in practice it will probably break03:44
bungopolisbob2: ubotu: No idea, bungopolis03:44
sproingiethat's my recommended best practice.  i won't waste any more time suggesting or defending it03:44
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bob2tiglionabbit: no, it has nothing to do with that03:44
tiglionabbitbob2: what then?03:44
aserpebob2: I must have missed something... I can't access the phpbb from http://localhost/phpbb03:45
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bob2bungopolis: echo pkgname hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections03:45
derekvancei'm bored anyways03:45
bob2aserpe: ok03:45
aserpebob2: do I need to make the links myself?03:45
derekvanceso off to work03:45
bob2tiglionabbit: what then what?03:45
bob2aserpe: no03:45
tiglionabbitbob2: what were you about to say would break things?03:45
pepsixheh, whats up with not having a Run menu item in the gnome menu and not having a Terminal menu item when you right click on the desktop?  in breezy btw.. yes i know dont use breezy, yes i know its unsupported, no i dont expect it to be fixed any time soon.. just wondering if anyone knows whats up with it03:45
tiglionabbitpepsix: there is a Run item03:46
bob2tiglionabbit: sharing /home between random versions of random distros.  gnome 2.2 will be very unhappy if it finds your ubuntu gnome 2.10 settings03:46
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wolkii need to install a newer version of gtk-sharp. can i just compile andinstall it, or do i have to remove the ubuntu version first?03:46
tiglionabbitpepsix: and there is a terminal menu item03:46
bob2aserpe: in what sense does it not work?03:46
teferi_pepsix: i have breezy, and i have both of those things. sorry.03:46
derekvancenotin, o well03:46
mortarhatecan only one app use the soundcard at a time or something?03:46
calamariI have a switch on my local network at I've done ifconfig eth0 dhcp netmask up, but I don't seem to be getting an ip address from the router (anther machine is).  I'm thinking I need to do a route add command, but I'm not sure.  Any ideas?03:46
aserpein firefox, going to http://localhost/phpbb/ doesn't show a page.03:46
tiglionabbitbob2: oooh.  So maybe multiple distros with the same home is a bad idea03:47
bob2mortarhate: in some sense, yes03:47
bob2tiglionabbit: depends what you're doing03:47
mortarhateisn't that a little retarded03:47
pepsixboth of my breezy installs lack those things03:47
bob2calamari: switches don't have ips03:47
naliothtiglionabbit: better idea is a bigger hard drive03:47
calamaribob2: router, with built in switch.. sorry :)03:47
mortarhatewhen im listening to music all other sound stops, then the second the music stops all the sound that would of played when the music is going, plays all at once03:47
tiglionabbitnalioth: it's a laptop, so that's not an option03:47
aserpebob2: The requested URL /phpbb/ was not found on this server.03:47
sproingiecalamari: you don't need to specify a netmask for dhcp, it's automatic03:47
bob2mortarhate: so, get all your apps to use esd03:47
naliothtiglionabbit: sure it is, hitachi just released 100gb models03:48
bob2aserpe: perhaps you need to configure apache2 to know about it then03:48
calamarisproingie: I tried it both ways actually03:48
mortarhatethis is going to be a pain int he ass isn't it03:48
tiglionabbitnalioth: unless I wanted to buy the one you plug in where the cdrom drive goes, but uh...03:48
bob2calamari: I'm pretty sure ifconfig has no knowledge of dhcp03:48
aserpebob2:  more looking in etc?03:48
sproingiecalamari: i always put it in /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup and ifdown03:48
bob2calamari: just setup /etc/network/interfaces correctly03:48
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naliothtiglionabbit: i replaced the HD in this ibook03:49
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wolkimortathate: it depends03:49
croutonhowdy folks03:49
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calamariwoo that file is complicated03:49
wolkiwhat apps do you have that use sound?03:49
tiglionabbitnalioth: hmm, maybe I do want a /docs partition...03:49
tiglionabbitI don't want my config files getting confused03:49
nybblenaalioth: so i guess there isnt a point in upgrading...03:49
mortarhatekopete, mplayer03:49
sproingiethe lightbulb lights03:49
naliothtiglionabbit: very wise03:49
mortarhatethats usually the most i run03:49
mortarhate(that need sound)03:49
wolkimortarhate, kde or gnome?03:49
tiglionabbitnalioth: any problem with making my /docs partition fat32 then?03:49
mortarhatekubuntu ;)03:50
naliothnybble: discussion is good03:50
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tiglionabbitnalioth: and does anything automount one of those anywhere?03:50
sproingietiglionabbit: it's the only thing that both OS's will read and write painlessly03:50
naliothtiglionabbit: that sounds like a plan03:50
croutonanybody know the syntax to mount a filesystem without error checking?03:50
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wolkimortarhate, then it's arts instead of esd03:50
wolkikopete should do this automatically03:50
mortarhatewell why doesn't it let several apps use the sound card at once?03:50
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wolkiyou might have to activate sound server in your kde settings03:50
sproingiecalamari: it's not.  mine was set up when i installed, and i bet gnome has a configurator for it03:50
bob2crouton: depends what you mean by "without error checking"03:50
mortarhategay /:03:51
bob2crouton: if you mean "without having the kernel notice that the filesystem is screwed", then, no, that's a terrible idea03:51
croutonbob2: Got an ext3 filesystem complaining about bad superblocks, can't get around it.03:51
sproingiecalamari: creating a dhcp enabled interface by hand is super easy, it's even documented right in the comments in /etc/network/interface03:51
naliothtiglionabbit: you can add it to your fstab03:51
aserpebob2: is /var/www where you should be putting files in ubuntu for web serving?03:51
tiglionabbitnalioth: alright03:51
wolkiand in the programs you have to set sound output to arts03:51
bob2crouton: fsck it03:51
tiglionabbitnalioth: was just wondering if linux had a place to put it already, so I didn't double-mount things03:51
croutonbob2:  fails.03:51
wolkinormal alsa can't have multiple sound on all sound cards03:52
tiglionabbitthank you guys03:52
bob2crouton: you're pretty screwed then, unfortuantely03:52
sproingietiglionabbit: /etc/fstab is where you put "permanent" mounts03:52
bob2aserpe: yes, but you don't want to put phpbb there03:52
calamarisproingie: the gnome configurator makes my ppp0 stop working03:52
naliothtiglionabbit: nope, its all you03:52
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croutonbob2: if I dd the drive to another drive, can I recover from that image?03:52
wolkia sound server goes between the apps and the card and distributes ist so that you can have multiple cards at once03:52
bob2crouton: I'd be surprised if that helps03:52
bob2crouton: it sounds like, in addition to whatever physical problems the drive has, it has already trashed some crucial bits of the filesystem03:53
sproingiecalamari: huh.  sucks ... dunno, i use kde and only one interface, so i'm about as far removed as you can get from your setup03:53
wolkii use gnome so i can't gibe you a step by step explanation, but it should be really easy03:53
mortarhatethats ok03:53
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aserpebob2: do you think restarting apache would help?  I used the synaptic conf-mysql to configure phpbb and maybe apache needs a restart to see the links?03:53
mortarhatei'm willing to live with it03:53
calamarisproingie: thats okay, thanks for your help :)03:53
mortarhatethis is the least of my problems as of now03:53
mortarhatelinux is a pain in the ass03:53
mortarhateim suprised people actually get work done on it03:54
bob2aserpe: maybe03:54
mortarhateconfiguring, editing, recompiling, etc03:54
wolkimortarhate, dont worry you should get it to work. open your kde control panel03:54
mortarhatei already did03:54
wolkithen the sound part of it03:54
mortarhatethe only sound stuff in there says "enable sound system"03:54
mortarhateand network sound... etc.03:54
sproingiemortarhate: no one actually gets work done, see..03:54
wolkienable it03:54
aserpebob2: what command would restart apache?03:54
mortarhatewell that was already activated03:54
bob2aserpe: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart03:55
mortarhatehow else would i have any sound03:55
wolkiyou would03:55
mortarhateright now i'm listening to a song, so all other noise is halted03:55
mortarhatethe second my song stops03:55
sproingieterrible secret, i'd probably use windows more for devel if the filesystem werent so awful03:55
mortarhateeverything from kopete plays03:55
wolkithen open mplayer03:55
wolkiopen preferences03:55
sproingiethat and i hate not being able to drag windows with alt-LMB03:55
wolkigoto sound03:55
mortarhatemplayer-nogui ;)03:55
aserpebob2: no joy03:55
nalioth!info make-jpkg03:55
croutonbob2: power failure.  i think the files might still be there.03:55
mortarhateit's no big deal03:55
kbrookssproingie, explain what you mean by the fs in windows03:55
tiglionabbitsproingie: what would you need from windows for development?03:56
sproingiekbrooks: dreadfully awfully slow03:56
wolkiwell, do you have a kde media player installed, like juk or noatun?03:56
tiglionabbitsproingie: isn't it enough to have emacs, vim, and gcc ?03:56
kbrookssproingie, slow?!?03:56
bob2crouton: then you'll need to convince fsck to unscrew it03:56
The_Voxmortarhate: edit ~/.mplayer/options and change the ao to arts if you are in kde03:56
bluefoxicyfuckin breezy03:56
mortarhatebut i like to bee 1337 and use the cli ;D03:56
bob2crouton: try telling it to use an alternate superblock03:56
kbrooksbluefoxicy, /topic03:56
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bob2bluefoxicy: code of conduct, please03:56
wolkitry playing your song in one of them, since they're kde the should default to using arts03:56
sproingietiglionabbit: i have a full toolchain on windows, as well as bash.  it's glacially slow compared to the same on linux03:56
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SDFH_Linuxhow stable is breezy?03:57
aserpebob2: I'm befuddled03:57
kbrookssproingie, 'glacially'?03:57
mortarhateit doesnt matter that much03:57
sproingietiglionabbit: toolchain: all the stuff needed for development03:57
croutonbob2: already tried, they're all invalid.03:57
bluefoxicySDFH_Linux:  I wouldn't recommend using breezy unless you're ready for breakage.03:57
tiglionabbitsproingie: oh, the unix base03:57
bob2crouton: time to get your backups out, I guess, unfortunately03:57
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SDFH_Linuxis there any other repos for ubuntu03:58
sproingiekbrooks: rmdir /s/q a big directory in windows.  now rm -rf in unix.  windows will be grinding away 10 minutes later03:58
bob2SDFH_Linux: it's best to just use the ubuntu repositories03:58
SDFH_Linuxother than the ones that you can uncomment03:58
naliothSDFH_Linux: if you have an extra box around, put breezy on THAT one03:58
dylan_how to install java without using the .BIN file from java.com?03:58
bluefoxicySDFH_Linux:  Though it seems to work mostly now, unlike last month when it broke in several places each day.  I'm still trying to get hal (insert USB stick, it gets mounted) to work right. . .03:58
sproingieand i'm even being charitable to windows.  use the gui to do it and you bring the box to its knees03:58
bungopolisi am using gconf-editor -- I've found a directory I want to delete, how can I do it?03:58
bob2dylan_: why are you opposed to using it?03:58
bluefoxicySDFH_Linux:  I'm expecting it to break horridly again one of these days though :)03:58
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aserpebob2: am I supposed to put the apache.conf from /etc/phpbb2 into /etc/apache2?03:58
naliothyour welcome, dylan_03:58
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dylan_i cant figure it out.03:58
bob2aserpe: dont think so03:58
SDFH_Linuxyikes i stay away from breezy then03:58
SDFH_Linuxfor now03:59
dylan_nalioth, got kicked off #apple03:59
bluefoxicySDFH_Linux:  Yaeh, use hoary :)  When breezy gets released in october it'll own.03:59
naliothdylan_: ok03:59
SDFH_Linuxi put hoary on my laptop after having debian on there03:59
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SDFH_Linuxso far so good03:59
croutonbob2: unfortunately, this disk *was* the backup.  source disk was a deathstar.03:59
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SDFH_Linuxso guys just use the ubuntu repos then04:00
bob2aserpe: I'd just add the alias line to apache2.conf, I suppose04:00
bob2crouton: ouch04:00
tkieselHi everyone. Is Firefox not in the official repos anymore?04:00
hanasakihi all. is there a console mouse driver like gpm?04:00
aserpebob2:  so I have this file called /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf04:00
aserpebob2: line where?04:00
dylan_i read the instructions on java.com for installing it and at the last instruction to type ls i get nothing04:00
tim_anyone can help me with installing packages?04:01
bob2aserpe: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf04:01
bob2hanasaki: yes, gpm.04:01
aserpebob2: ok, I'll try.04:01
bob2dylan_: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java, use the make-jpkg one04:01
bungopolisI want to remove the settings of a program in my gconf -- I tried deleting ~/.gconf/apps/<prog> but I still see the entry in gconf-editor04:01
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tkieselI'm trying to re-install Firefox with apt-get and not having much luck04:02
hanasakibob2,  not in apt-get or cache or apt-get install gpm .. i am on hoary.04:02
kbrookstkiesel, warty?04:02
tkieselkbrooks: Hoary04:02
dylan_ok thanks bob2 and nalioth04:02
bob2hanasaki: well, it's available, perhaps you forgot to enable universe?04:02
bob2bungopolis: I don't think that's going to do anything useful04:02
GigaClontim_ !synaptic04:02
hanasakibob2,  i am new.. bet you are correct.. what is universe and how do i enable it?04:02
bonggnuanyone has S3 unichrome video chipset?04:02
bob2hanasaki: edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:02
hanasaki<= trying ubuntu.. i am a deb guy.. for now04:02
dylan_ok wiki.ubuntu.com/java does not work04:03
aserpebob2: Let me be clear.  Add the line "Alias /phpbb /usr/share/phpbb2/site" to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf04:03
bob2bonggnu: lots of people do, it's kinda nasty, and I don't believe there's DRI support in stock ubuntu04:03
bob2dylan_: it works for lots of people, though04:03
bob2aserpe: yes04:03
naliothdylan_: you'll need to follow the dog04:03
bob2aserpe: assuming you have php working in general04:03
tim_how do i make the text bigger in this chat window i can barely read it?04:03
SDFH_Linuxis it safe to use firefox 1.0.4 i am running 1.0.2 right now04:03
bonggnuok, thnks04:03
tkieselkbrooks: Coudl you see if you could do an sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox04:03
aserpebob2: php is working04:03
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, warty?04:03
bob2tkiesel: the package is mozilla-firefox04:04
tkieselIt tells me that mozilla-firefox cannot be downloaded.04:04
dylan_ok bob2 it was just not upper case J in Java04:04
bob2dylan_: yes04:04
tkieselbob2: You're right. Typo on my part.04:04
kbrooksSDFH_Linux, don't worry -- 1.0.4 has security fixes04:04
SDFH_Linuxthere is a selection for firefox 1.04 in hoary04:04
bungopolisbob2 -- I dont understand how to edit the gconf registry -- why cant I delete directories?04:04
tkieselbob2: Says that mozilla-firefox cannot be downloaded.04:04
bob2bungopolis: why can't I insert nails into my ears?04:04
SDFH_Linuxlatest stable kernel is 2.6.10 -68604:04
bungopoliswhat the hell does that mean?04:04
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bob2bungopolis: that's not how it works.  just use gnome-editor04:04
bob2er, gconf-editor.04:05
bungopolisI am using gconf-editor04:05
kbrooksbungopolis, Non-empty directories can't be deleted without rm -rf04:05
bungopolisthat's what I'm talking about04:05
bob2tkiesel: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood04:05
bungopolisi know how to delete directories, kbrooks, I dont understand how GNOME works04:05
bungopolisgconf-editor does not let you delete keys or directories04:05
dylan_how do i add the ubuntu.tower-net.de repository04:05
bungopolisit only allows you to "unset" certain keys04:05
bonggnui have troubles with cd record, ubuntu, use ide-cd o ide-scsi ? i have problems cdrecord error 25504:05
naliothdylan_: same way you added the others04:05
bob2bonggnu: ide-cd04:06
bob2bungopolis: some keys don't have defaults04:06
aserpebob2: yah!  working.  Kudos again!04:06
hanasakihmm universe is community maintained.. is that safe?04:06
pepsixof course not04:06
kbrooksit is04:06
hanasakinice guys.. thanks.. lol  which is it04:07
sproingiethe core distro's created by a community too.  it just gets extra work by the folks at canonical04:07
kbrooksit is safe04:07
naliothkbrooks: ping04:07
hanasakipepsix,  driving off new users? someone kick him04:07
tkieselbob2: There you go.04:07
bungopolisbob2 -- I installed an application (mail-notification), and have now removed it as I don't want it. When I look, with gconf-editor, at my gnome registry, I can see two directories /apps/mail-notification and /schemas/apps/mail-notification which I want to remove, becuase I dont want to have any settings defined for this application I no longer have04:07
pepsixeat my ass hanasaki04:07
tkieselSame deal on two different Hoary boxes I use.04:07
hanasakifight fight04:07
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bungopolisbob2 it reminds me of windows -- programs settings seem to drift around forever04:08
bungopoliscluttering up my configuration04:08
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kbrooksnalioth, uh. hanasaki is asking if universe is safe04:08
kbrookspepsix, is saying no04:09
kbrooksi say yes04:09
naliothhanasaki: yes universe is safe04:09
hanasakinalioth,  u a maintainer?04:09
hanasakinalioth,  pepsix  also offered me a dirty snack04:09
pepsixhow is it safe?04:09
bob2bungopolis: that seems fairly silly04:09
kbrookshanasaki, no, but he knows a lot about ubuntu04:09
naliothhanasaki: don't use marillat, they are very out of date04:09
bungopolisbob2: why?04:09
Wa77zi installed xmmms, and made it default plaer for my mp3's but yet it isnt04:09
pepsixis there a security team checking every single line of code submitted to universe?04:10
naliothhanasaki: so i saw, and he didnt offer any to the rest of us04:10
sproingiepepsix: is there one for main?04:10
bob2bungopolis: meh, the "like windows" things annoys me.  if you really want to remove it, go ask on the gconf list.  or just ignore it.04:10
pepsixdoubt it04:10
bob2pepsix: of coursee not04:10
bob2pepsix: there isn't one for any section of any distribution04:10
hanasakiwhere, in synaptic, is the opotion to actually od the install of what was selected?04:10
hanasakiah.. apply04:11
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pepsixso how is anything safe then? its only as trustworthy as the people working on it04:11
bungopolisbob2: so you're asserting that it is perfectly logical for applications that no longer exist on a system to retain conifiguration settings indefinitely?04:11
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naliothpepsix: so use gentoo or linux-from-scratch, where you can examine each line of code04:11
bob2bungopolis: I'm saying that it's a terribly tiny detail, and that there's no way for gconf to know if an application is installed or not.04:11
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bob2bungopolis: yes there should be a way to get rid of it, and there probably is, I just don't know it.04:11
ReleaseXanyone here use a  brother printer?04:11
sproingienalioth: openbsd might be a more reasonable choice04:11
bob2tkiesel: do not /msg people04:12
bungopolisbob2: thanks04:12
bonggnuwhen i try to record an cd , cd record cannot /usr/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '1,0,0'.04:12
hanasakihow in xorg and ubuntu do i get my 2nd monitor to work?  its a single gforce 5700 w/ two outputs04:12
bob2using backports is silly, too, but at least you have it commented out04:12
bpuccioReleaseX: I do and I just got one for my girlfriend04:12
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naliothsproingie: well, with gentoo or lfs, he can examine the source b4 he compiles it04:12
bob2tkiesel: paste the output of 'apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox'04:12
naliothsproingie: i think a little more easily04:12
ReleaseXbpuccio, which model?04:12
sproingienalioth: yeah but can he trust the compiler he's compiling the compiler with?04:13
bob2tkiesel: bah04:13
bob2you get to keep both pieces now04:13
naliothsproingie: he can if he double blindly compiles his compiler (i think i said that right)04:13
bob2tkiesel: you're continuing to /msg me, and you're using the "backports" version of firefox04:14
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bpuccioI have the HL-5050 (for some reason there are no settings with respect to the second paper tray, so it just sits there, but I really don't have a use for it) and my girlfriend has a HL-204004:14
bob2tkiesel: sudo apt-get --reinstall install mozilla-firefox=1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3 004:14
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sproingiei dont suppose anyone's gotten a xerox workcentre 385 printer working on linux, have they?04:15
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bpucciowhen installing the HL-2040, that specific model wasn't listed in the printer setup, so I picked a very similar model, I can tell you which one exactly when she gets home in 10 more minutes, and it works just fine04:15
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othernoobReleaseX: i have the HL 203004:15
tkieselbob2: Thank you.04:15
bpuccioReleaseX: for the most part, they work just fine, no complaints (other then my second paper tray issue, but I must admit I haven't looked in to it really and it doesn't bother me at all)04:15
othernoobbpuccio: afaik there are official linux drivers for all brother printers.04:15
ReleaseXbpuccio, othernoob, are either of those network printers?04:16
bpuccioothernoob: yup, brother even included them on CD, I installed the PPD when setting up mine, but I was too lazy to do so on hers (I guess I'm a horribly boyfriend)04:16
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othernoobReleaseX: the HL-2030 isn't. neither is the HL-2040, but the HL-2060 is IIRC04:16
Wa77zi have too many problems, i dont know wher to start04:16
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othernoobbpuccio: brother included the linux drivers on your cd? damn bastards04:17
othernoobthey weren't on mine :/04:17
bpuccioReleaseX: mine is, it's sitting on a seperate computer which acts as a file/print server, so the printer in and of itself isn't a network printer, but it is shared over the network, though I don't think that's what you wanted04:17
Strifedoes GNOME try to force a gtk look and feel on Java applications, or is that just Debian in general?04:17
abarbaccia_awayhey guys - i need your help with stupid sudo being annoying: it wont let me execute this command as is- i gotta be at a root term first then it'll let me04:17
abarbaccia_away$  sudo echo "modprobe lirc_i2c" > /etc/init.d/ivtv04:17
kbrooksno, and no04:17
wolkiWa77z, start somewhere04:17
bpuccioothernoob: I was surprised, I only noticed after I downloaded them from their site and was only then looking through the manal and at the CDs, I tend to ignore them on hardware purchases since they are almost always written for windows users only, I was very surprised04:18
Strifekbrooks: if that was in response to my question, then why is a java app I'm running right now doing a shitty job of looking like a GTK app? :P04:18
Aegir^Strife, I thought that was just how Java apps looked =/04:18
Wa77zok, well first thing is my sound only works with mp3's, and its broken on system sounds04:18
stevenjGftp has never been a problem to install before- I am getting "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gftp/gftp-text_2.0.18-2_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch"   Can someone please help04:18
sproingieabarbaccia_away: sudo is only running the part before the >04:18
ubotumethinks usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list04:18
ReleaseXwell i have the mfc-420cn and it's plugged into my router, just wondering if anyone had any luck getting it to work from their linux box04:18
sproingieabarbaccia_away: redirect the output to a file in a directory you can write to04:18
StrifeAegir^: no, they don't look as crappy usually04:18
naliothstevenj: read what ubotu said about usrepos04:18
bob2abarbaccia_away: that's you not using sudo correctly, not a sudo problem.  echo modprobe lirc_i2c | sudo tee -a /etc/init.d/ivtv04:18
othernoobReleaseX: have you checked www.linuxprinting.org yet?04:19
Aegir^Strife, Ahhh :)04:19
bob2abarbaccia_away: also, shouldn't that module just be loaded in /etc/modules?04:19
bpuccioReleaseX: sorry, no, wish I could help you there04:19
hanasakihow do i get the dual head system to work in ubuntu with a two port gforce card?04:19
Aegir^Strife, I havent experimented with Java under Ubuntu yet04:19
stevenjI get the repo list from Ubuntu guide. :(04:19
wolkiWa77z, what do you mean only works with mp3s? ggonme or kde? which player?04:19
bob2hanasaki: same as you would any other linux system04:19
StrifeAegir^: yeah, well Debian does the same thing... I'm really willing to wager it's actually a GNOME thing04:19
hanasakibob.. not sure.. do i downlaod and install the nvidia driver from nvidia?04:19
naliothstevenj: dont use the ubuntuguide04:19
StrifeI'm going to start up xnest and try it in E1704:20
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hanasakihmm bob2  i know you from the #debian?04:20
naliothstevenj: it can lead you into evil04:20
bob2stevenj: the "ubuntu guide" has some interesting ideas abotu a default repository set, but thats not the problem here; us.archive.ubuntu.com used to work, but has been a bit flakey for the past few weeks.04:20
bob2hanasaki: yes04:20
bob2hanasaki: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:20
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hanasakibob2,  ah.. cool.. you switch to ubuntu?04:20
bob2hanasaki: no, I use both04:20
abarbaccia_awaybob2, thanks man - i dont know if it will or not04:21
hanasakican i ask.. bob2  what do you find as the pro/con for each?04:21
abarbaccia_awaybob2, if i installed it i'm pretty sure it doesnt load them at boot04:21
Wa77zwell, it works with gnome so far, i havent installed kde yet, for example on gaim, if someone IM's me i will hear a little static, and if i go to sounds in my gaim pref., and test sounds, the sounds only work after i hit the button ten times in a row, but if i play a song,(mp3), it will play fine04:21
hondjehttp://www.hondje.net/~hondje/bad.jpg <--- what pkg is that from?04:21
sproingiedo you LIKE to load it?04:21
sproingiei see there's no button for "no, i don't really enjoy it"04:22
wolkiWa77z, which mp3 player do you use?04:22
bob2hanasaki: fixed release cycle is good, small arch selection is bad04:22
hondjegnome settings daemon?04:22
stevenjso can someone please then tell where to get a good repo list with everything on it Except BP :) thanks04:22
Wa77zi am using Totem PLaer04:22
goldfishwolki: bmp04:22
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bob2stevenj: you already have it, /etc/apt/sources.list04:22
bob2stevenj: that has all the official ubuntu ones04:23
Wa77zi installed xmms but it dont work as of yet, and yes i made it default04:23
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wolkiWa77z, thats interesting because if it works in totem it should work in gnome04:23
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stevenjbob2, well I usually add unvi and multi-in any case all I have to do is take the us off all of them?04:23
Wa77zya -  it should - but it dont = P04:23
wolkiWa77z, if xmms doesn't work, you have to set it to use esd04:23
cafuegobob2: HT working ok now, with APCI on :-)04:23
bob2stevenj: yes04:23
stevenjbob2, thanks04:23
bob2cafuego: ah, cool...any faster?04:23
Strifefor anyone who cares... it IS GNOME that's trying to force on a fake GTK-looking theme on java apps04:24
Strifebecause it uses the normal look and feel in fluxbox04:24
Wa77zi dont know how to set it to default -  i thought i did it with one of the commands from the ubuntu guide04:24
wolkiWa77z, one moment please i'll install xmms so i can help you04:24
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aserpebob2:  Now that phpbb is installed, I can't log in as phpbb as admin... I can't find where the admin password is stored.  Is there a standard admin password for phpbb?04:24
Wa77zok - thanks a lot04:24
bob2aserpe: I dont use php things, so I don't know, sorry04:24
GigaClonxmms is broken for me04:24
GigaClonI presss the play button and it freezes04:25
kbrooksaserpe, third party?04:25
aserpebob2: ok, thanks for all your help before. :-)04:25
GigaClonrhythmbox works fine04:25
aserpekbrooks: no04:25
VelcanJust looking for opinions here not an answer :D ... Whats everyones favorite music player? And does one exist that can be removed to the systray so that it doesn't have to take up space on my window list ...04:25
wolkiWa77z, start xmms from the menu or the command line04:25
bob2GigaClon: open the preferences, change the output plugin to esound04:25
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bob2Velcan: cplay04:25
aserpekbrooks: it's phpbb from synaptic package manager04:25
bob2Velcan: if you don't want it in the window list, just put it in a different virtual desktop04:25
Wa77zkk, im tryin, my comp is goin really slow04:25
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wolkiWa77z, then - without playing - immediately go to options->preferences04:26
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Velcanyea i suppose so but sys tray would still be nice for easier accesibility04:26
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wolkiWa77z, then in the Output plugin section change OSS to ESD04:26
Wa77zcan you type a command to exit out of an App. Xmms is not responding04:26
aserpeanyone familiar with the phpbb install for ubuntu?04:26
Wa77zwolki, h/o p04:27
Velcancall me trendy but im also looking for something witha  nice look n' feel to it as well04:27
Wa77zh/o one sec**04:27
wolkiVelcan: try muine04:27
teferi_hey, everybody congratulate debian, xorg is finally in unstable :)04:27
bob2aserpe: you read the documentation, right?04:27
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Velcan'muine' it's called?04:27
naliothVelcan: rhythmbox fits your criteria04:27
wolkiWa77z, Alt-F2, then enter "xkill"04:27
bimberiVelcan: Rhythmbox works nicely with the Notification Area of the Gnome Panel04:27
aserpebob2: can't find it04:27
Wa77zalright, man , this shouldnt be happneing04:28
bob2aserpe: er, /usr/share/doc/phpbb/04:28
wolkiVelcan: can be put into the tray only, and has quite a nice, innovative interface04:28
kbrooksteferi_, no!04:28
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teferi_kbrooks: yes!04:28
Wa77zok, all i have open is xchat04:28
wolkiVelcan: it's library-based though04:28
aserpebob2: THANKS!!!04:29
aserpebob2:  I feel like someone just turned on the sun.04:29
Velcancool ill check it out04:29
Wa77zSOB, i think i am gonna have to restart04:29
teferi_aserpe: in general, if your package is called foo, there will be docs in /usr/share/doc/foo04:29
wolkiWa77z, then after xkill you get crosshairs as a mouse cursor. click on the window and away it goes04:29
Wa77zya it didnt go away04:29
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aserpeyah for ubuntu!!!04:29
wolkiVelcan: it's in universe04:29
GigaClonis there a way to bypass esd without killing it?04:29
teferi_esdctl standbymode04:30
Tim_hello all04:30
teferi_esdctl off?04:30
teferi_man esdctl04:30
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Tim_Anyone here who can help me install accessability package for ubuntu gnome x environment?04:30
GigaClonis there a way a program could detect esd and turn it off if it was running and turn it on again when the program quit04:31
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GigaClonTim_ just use synaptic04:31
Velcanlooks like it must have been installed by default04:31
ubotu[synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:31
aserpeYah, this is much easier!!!04:31
croutongeneral question: is there a way to rewrite filesystem information without overwriting the filesystem entirely?04:31
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Tim_where do I find that in the x enfironment?04:31
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ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.04:32
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thr1cecrouton, suppose it depends on which file system you're looking to change to/from04:33
Velcananyone know of any websites with a decent listing of radio stations that will work with this option i see in rythymbox04:33
croutonthr1ce: just want to see if i can overwrite bad superblock info on an ext3 partition.04:34
croutonwithout blowing away the files I suspect are still there.04:34
thr1cecrouton, yikes...maybe creating another ext3, copying those files over, then mkreiserfs the rest?04:34
thr1ce(which will format of course)04:34
Velcanand does anyone know if rythymbox is compatible with any of the stations winamp uses?04:34
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thr1ceVelcan, google is your friend :)04:35
croutonthr1ce: yeah, that's the problem. filesystem can't mount.04:35
naliothVelcan: yes it plays streams04:35
teferi_crouton: use the backup superblock, luke04:35
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teferi_crouton: there's a backup every 8192 blocks04:36
Tim_which should I download the amd64 or i386?04:36
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Tarcastilwow, apt-get = happiness04:36
thr1ceTim_, what type of processor do you have...04:36
croutonteferi_: all bad04:36
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teferi_crouton: ALL of them?!04:36
teferi_crouton: wtf did you do to your disk?04:36
croutonteferi_: power outage.04:36
croutonwhile mounted.04:36
nalioth_wrknTim_: for usability i recommand x86, if you like to tinker, amd6404:36
thr1ceshoulda used reiserfs...04:36
teferi_crouton: er, wait, what block size were you using?04:36
Tim_Uhhh it's ina compaq pressario desktop if that helps any.04:36
teferi_ For  filesystems  with  1k  blocksizes,  a   backup04:37
teferi_              superblock  can  be found at block 8193; for filesystems with 2k04:37
teferi_              blocksizes, at block 16384; and  for  4k  blocksizes,  at  block04:37
teferi_              32768.04:37
croutonteferi_: default04:37
thr1ceTim_, do you have a 64 bit chip?04:37
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Tim_That I am not sure about.04:37
thr1ceTim_, cat /proc/cpuinfo04:37
thr1cewha'ts the...modelname?04:37
teferi_crouton: hm, default varies with the size of the filesystem04:37
bonggnui have troubles with cdrecord, can could be help me?04:37
crouton"32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200"04:37
teferi_crouton: well, in the meantime, try at 16384 and 32768.04:38
croutonthose are some of the backup superblocks. all bad.04:38
teferi_you may be hosed04:38
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croutonteferi_: yeah.04:38
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teferi_crouton: well, if you have a lot of patience, look in kernel headers to get the e2fs inode layout and go through your disk with a hex editor04:39
Tim_AMD Duron04:39
thr1ceTim_, ok, use x8604:39
teferi_crouton: i expect that to be extreme pain04:39
croutonteferi_: whoa...04:39
Tim_Ok, now after I download it then how do I install it.04:39
teferi_crouton: well, got a better idea, with no superblocks left?04:40
teferi_crouton: humor me and try looking for one at 16384; that's not on the list you tried04:40
croutonteferi_: praying?04:40
croutonhmm. says unexpected fileblock size.04:40
thr1ceTim_, burn to a CD, boot from it in the cd-rom, follow the instructions04:40
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thr1cedid you test the disc with hdparm ?04:40
teferi_well, that's different :P04:40
Tim_Ok I'm downloading gnopernicus04:41
newbiehi what minimal space to install ubuntu ?? 1 Gb is enough ?04:41
Wa77zhey yall, I am experienceing a weird mouse problem, to get my mouse to work, ( meaning able to move it) i have to unplug it and plug it back in while my comp is on , any ideas ?04:41
Tim_Yeah I got ubuntu installed but need to install this for the screen reader package.04:41
thr1cenewbie, um...i'd say 2 (i seem to remember 1.5)04:41
newbie1.5 ?04:42
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newbiei have hd with only 1 Gb04:42
newbiei think it's enough04:42
Derrecknewbie, Mine's currently using almost 3GB.04:42
thr1cenewbie, i'm very fresh install...04:42
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thr1ceandrew@home:~$ df -h04:43
thr1ceFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on04:43
thr1ce/dev/hdc6              20G  1.5G   19G   8% /04:43
nickrudnewbie I think only for a server install, and !maybe! a real minimal window manager04:43
Tim_They are .deb file?04:43
thr1cewithout gnome you might be able to make it04:43
Derreck/dev/sda1             9.2G  2.7G  6.1G  31% /04:43
newbieoh what a pity of me :(04:43
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Tim_As you can tell I am a new Linux user with very little experience.04:44
thr1ceTim_, everyone's new to something04:44
newbiein where the bset place to instal grub in hdd0 or hdd1 ?04:44
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nickrudnewbie you can probably pick up a 4 gig disk at a flea market for 5 bucks04:44
GigaCloni have a program that can't use esd for performance reasons, is there way to use somthing else (like ALSA) for sound instead04:44
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:44
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capiAnyone have a clue on fixing this error "ping: unknown host google.com"04:44
Tim_Thanks, what do I do with these 2 files to get this package workng?04:44
newbieit can be instal grub on hdd1 and detect any my os ?04:45
thr1ceTim_, they are deps?04:45
thr1cedebs* ?04:45
Tim_yeah debs04:45
thr1ceread up on dpkg:  man dpkg04:45
nickrudTim_ the basic command for installing debs is dpkg -i <package1> <package2>04:46
nickrudTim_ with sudo in front of dpkg, of course :)04:46
Tim_ok but i can do each file one at a time can't i?04:46
Tim_sudo ?04:47
ubotuwell, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:47
thr1ceTim_, sudo dpkg -i <pack1> <pack2>04:47
thr1cewill do both at the same time04:47
nickrudTim_ if the packages depend on each other, do them together04:47
Tim_Ok gottcha04:47
thr1cesudo is used for temporary super user access04:47
capiIs there a tool to reconfigure the network back to the way it was after a fresh install?04:47
tiglionabbitTim_: to make things easier to understand, instead of -i, say --install.  There's also --remove, and --info04:47
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tiglionabbitcapi: there are many components of the network.  I don't think you can find a single command04:48
tiglionabbithello newbie04:48
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thr1cei install to the MBR04:48
newbieit can be instal grub on hdd1 and detect any my os ?04:48
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nickrudnewbie it will probably work, I've seen it fail in a few odd situations04:49
tiglionabbitnewbie: yes, ubuntu does detect other operating systems04:49
newbieoh i mean MBR04:49
emacsenCan anyone else here run gok?04:49
moparfan90i need help installing java runtime2  .... help me04:49
ubotujava is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:49
ubotubonggnu: Are you smoking crack?04:49
ubotu[newusers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers04:49
bonggnunot, just cannabis04:49
newbieoh ic tiglionabbit04:50
ubotubonggnu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:50
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nickrudnewbie just make sure you have a boot disk for your window install, if you don't have one already.04:50
ubotubonggnu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:50
newbiecause my xp in hdd0 and my ubuntu in hdd104:50
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Tim_Ok so when you say pack1 pack2 ect you are refering to the files that were downloade?04:50
moparfan90i need help installing "J2SE Runtime Environment"04:50
moparfan90hep mre04:50
thr1cedid you install windows first?04:50
newbieand i instal grub on hdd004:50
newbieyes thr1ce04:50
newbieit can be to instal ubuntu first and after that windows ??04:51
tiglionabbitnewbie: there's no such thing as hdd0.  You mean hd4,0 or hdd1?  (wait, you have 4 hard disks?  I doubt that)04:51
moparfan90i need help installing "J2SE Runtime Environment"04:51
bimberiTim_: gnopernicus is available in the ubuntu repositories - you can download and install it in one action using apt-get - a safer method than downloading DEBs and installing using dpkg04:51
moparfan90help me please04:51
nickrudnewbie that's one of the 'odd' situations I've seen :)04:51
gpledhow do i get sound to work in 5.04?04:51
crimsungpled: what sound chipset?04:51
thr1celinux should always be install after windows...it'll save aLOT of trouble04:51
decafmoparfan90: install java-package and read its docs04:51
thr1cewindows likes to overwrite the mbr very casually04:52
newbieare u sure thr1ce ?04:52
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emacsenanyone else want to try to get/run gok for me please?04:52
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tiglionabbitgpled: it depends on a lot of things.  It's supposed to work by default04:52
bonggnuburning group is deprecated in ubuntu ?04:52
newbieit can be ?04:52
thr1cenewbie, what can be?04:52
newbieif can i will instal linux first and after that windows04:52
gpleddmesg reports isapnp: Card 'CS4235 CODEC'04:52
thr1ceno, windows first, then linux -_-04:52
newbiecause the mbr on hdd104:52
nickrudnewbie listen to thr1ce :)04:52
crimsungpled: did you sudo modprobe snd_cs4235 ?04:52
newbiewindows 1st then linux 2 ?04:53
thr1cegrub should add itself to the mbr just fine, detecting your windows install too, and adding it automatically to the config04:53
Tim_That is great how do I get to the repositories?04:53
thr1ceTim_, they are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list04:53
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:53
ubotufrom memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories04:54
gpledmodprobe snd_cs4235 gets FATAL: Module snd_cs4235 not found.04:54
ubotuit has been said that components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view04:54
newbiewhat about i format my windows u know the grub will be lost and i'cant go back to my linux ?04:54
thr1cenewbie, ubuntu does a good job setting up grub for you04:54
crimsungpled: snd_cs423604:54
Tim_Ok now i have another problem when i installed ubuntu it never asked me to set up a password for root so i cant even access root privs?04:54
ubotuit has been said that esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.04:54
crimsungpled: is this on a laptop?04:54
nickrudcomponents explains what you're doing with !repositories04:54
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tiglionabbitTim_: that's normal04:55
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:55
croutonoooh.  is there a specific set of commands to create an ISO image using dd?04:55
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Tim_so when i type su it asks for a password04:55
nickruddd if=/dev/hd? of=image.iso04:55
tiglionabbitTim_: use sudo -s instead of su.  It's your own password04:55
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thr1cedd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso04:55
croutonnickrud: yeah, but do i need a bs=xxxx ?04:55
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bimberiTim_: use "sudo -s" instead to get a shell with root privileges04:56
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tessierHello all!04:56
nickrudcrouton well, not the last time I did it, anyway04:56
croutonnickrud: worth a shot, thanks. same thanks to you thr1ce04:56
gpledsnd_cs4236 took, but no sound.04:56
thr1cecrouton, shouldn't04:56
gpleddo i have to restart x?04:56
tiglionabbitTim_: all of the gui's components use gksudo, which uses your own password too04:56
nickrudalthough, I have used bs=1024 before04:56
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crimsungpled: X Window System has nothing to do with sound04:56
croutonthr1ce: I think I'm going to dump the filesystem to iso file, maybe I can browse that later. ;)04:56
tessierI'm a Fedora/CentOS user but I decided to steal a very good idea from Ubuntu and do away with root passwords in my office and configure sudo.04:56
gpledcrimsun: this is on a desktop04:56
thr1cecrouton, might be a good idea04:56
gpledhow can i test sound out side of x?04:57
bonggnui need help with cd burning in ubuntu hoary, i can toaste any kind of cd (using k3b i.e)04:57
crimsungpled: you need to use a mixer and unmute (then increase) Master, PCM, and DSP04:57
bimberitessier: yes it took a bit of getting used to but I'd do the same now too - one less password to manage04:57
decafhow can I add a description to ubotu ?04:57
Tim_ok i found the sources.list file now what do i do with it to install the package i need.04:57
TraceHello, How do i know which module alsa contain? for example, i want to use snd-azx, but when i modprobe snd_azx, system telles me don't have this module04:57
tessierOnly one problem with this: How do you scp a file readable only by root from one system to another?04:57
nickrudbonggnu can, or cannot?04:57
crimsungpled: you can use alsamixer, amixer, aumix, etc.04:57
tessierSay for example I want to duplicate my /etc/sudoers file to every machine. I can't scp in as root to read the file.04:57
thr1ceTim_, well, you don't use that; that'll just list the sources; sudo apt-get install <package> does that for you04:57
tessierI had the bright idea of chmod'ing the sudoers file 44404:57
thr1ceor, you can run synaptic, and just search in there for whatever you'd like04:58
crimsunTrace: Ubuntu Hoary does not ship with snd_azx.ko compiled. You need to compile it yourself from alsa-source in the universe repo.04:58
tessierThat solved the immediate problem but then I found that my developers could not sudo on the box this morning.04:58
abarbacciahey guys - the kernel source that i download from the ubuntu repos, does that contain my current kernel's config file04:58
HrdwrBoBtessier: for more complicated issues like that, simply unlock root and copy your public key to them04:58
crimsunabarbaccia: your currenty config is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)04:58
HrdwrBoBit'll make life easier04:58
tessierWith no working sudo and a locked root password I had to boot the rescue disk. What a pain. I guess I learned my lesson on that.04:58
thr1ceabarbaccia, if that kernel and the one you're running are the same04:58
Tracecrimusn, do you mean i should down load the source code and compile it myself?04:58
Tim_ok so i just type sudo apt-get install gnopernicus04:58
crimsun!tell Trace about alsa-source04:58
abarbacciaright, im asking if the ubuntu kernel sources have the ubuntu .config file or a generic one04:59
HrdwrBoBtessier: tha'ts what we do, as a rule use sudo, but retain a root password on all machines04:59
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bimberiTim_: Does "sudo apt-get install gnopernicus" work?04:59
crimsunabarbaccia: you don't need the kernel source. It's already included at the location I told you.04:59
nickrudbonggnu I only use a subset of burning, that is, copying a cd (dd) and writing the iso (right click the iso in the filemanager), and burn:// for creating data disks in the filemanager04:59
TraceThx!! crimsun!!04:59
thr1ceabarbaccia, should have the .config file; but, if I recall, ubuntu uses a initrd to load modules04:59
abarbacciacrimsun, i do need the kernel source - but i need the source tree setup correctly too04:59
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Tim_that is what i am asking is that what i am supposed to type to install that package?04:59
bimberiTim_: yes05:00
crimsunabarbaccia: what are you trying to do?05:00
Tim_ok here goes05:00
thr1ceTim_, sure...try it out :)05:00
tiglionabbitTim_: why not use synaptic.  It's much friendlier05:00
abarbacciathr1ce crimsun , for compiling lirc (ir control for my myth box) it needs a source tree to work against05:00
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gpledcrimsun: is their a mixer in x?  does volume control count?05:00
crimsunabarbaccia: the config is distributed with linux-image-foo. You don't need linux-source to look at the config file.05:00
bonggnunickrud: i ll try the steps that you suggeest05:00
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crimsungpled: sure, Volume Control will suffice.05:00
thr1ceTim_, in that sources.list file, you can uncomment the other lines that start with deb, then run sudo apt-get update, and it'll give you even more packages05:00
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nickrudbonggnu just what are you trying to do, maybe I can give a better answer :)05:01
gpledcrimsun: is there a way i can test sound from console?05:01
crimsunabarbaccia: make sure you make oldconfig with the config I pointed you to above.05:01
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crimsungpled: sure, use aplay with a wav file05:01
tiglionabbitcrimsun: why not just have him use system -> multimedia systems, and hit Test05:02
Tim_Ok, looks like it is working.05:02
bimberiTim_: Yes - synaptic is a good thing to get to know - it's a gui front-end to apt(-get) - the command you've just used05:02
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crimsuntiglionabbit: because he's not in X Window System presently05:02
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nickrudsynaptic has real aptitude :)05:02
bonggnuinstall cdrecord mkisofs nautilus-cd-burner05:02
thiniceneed help - trying to install ubuntu on a raid array-  2 sata drives running in raid0 (hardware) - both drives are showing up though, not as one05:02
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abarbacciacrimsun, thr1ce i got it - and the answer is yes, the .config file is the correct one with the source (at least lirc thinks so!)05:03
frozenwalkwayhow big is ubuntu fully installed?05:03
spermie_411What am i doing wrong? bash: sudo/etc/init.d/sshd: No such file or directory05:03
thr1ce1.5 g or so05:03
frozenwalkwaythanks trh!ce05:03
bimberiTim_: You can access it (once that install finishes) at System -> Adminstration -> Synaptic Package Manager05:03
moparfan90its small05:03
crimsunabarbaccia: no. The config in /boot is the one that's being used.05:03
nickrudbonggnu nautilus-cd-burner if I recall correctly, is part of the base install for ubuntu-desktop. Why do you need to install it?05:03
naliothfrozenwalkway: user desktop about 3-4gb MAX05:03
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Tim_Ok thats great i'll look into that.05:03
naliothnickrud: howdy05:03
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Tim_Thanks for all your help.05:04
thiniceanyone ?a05:04
bonggnui am using kubuntu05:04
bimberiTim_: yw :)05:04
capihow do you estimate a good swap size?05:04
thr1cecapi, how much ram do you have?05:04
nickrudnalioth hey, when will you hit the alamo, I still need to see it :)05:04
thr1cehow much HDD space?05:04
naliothcapi: then twice05:04
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crimsunif you plan to suspend, you want at least twice the amount of physical RAM.05:04
naliothnickrud: huh?05:04
thr1cecapi, if you can afford it, do 512 or so05:05
crimsunif you don't plan to suspend, it doesn't really matter05:05
GigaClonis there a page in the wiki comparing KDE and GNOME05:05
nickrudnalioth nm, you've forgotten an earlier conversation :)05:05
naliothnickrud: yes, i've slept05:05
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spermie_411sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found ?? why isnt this working?05:05
tiglionabbitGigaClon: it's mostly opinion.  Why not get kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop together, and see which you like more?05:05
crimsunspermie_411: install openssh-server05:05
nickrudbonggnu oh, I don't know much about kubuntu.05:06
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thr1cespermie_411, you need openssh05:06
naliothGigaClon: and you don't have to stop there, there are over a dozen desktop manglers you can (ab)use05:06
capidoes more than double hurt it, or just a waste?05:06
mdipihey guys, if i switched my defualt DE to  KDE, how can i make the default Gnome again?05:06
crimsunspermie_411: and it's /etc/init.d/ssh, not /etc/init.d/sshd05:06
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FormerWindowsUsewhich is better:  epiphany or firefox?05:06
naliothspermie_411: you need the pkg called "openssh-server"05:06
naliothFormerWindowsUse: chevy or ford?05:06
FormerWindowsUsei dont know05:06
thr1ceFormerWindowsUse, that's opinion...but firefox is better supported, updated more frequently05:06
nickrudmdipi in the login screen, there should be a session option05:06
bonggnunickrud: i installed ubuntu base, and installed throw apt the other components05:07
thiniceneed help - trying to install ubuntu on a raid array-  2 sata drives running in raid0 (hardware) - both drives are showing up though, not as one --- any ideas ?05:07
spermie_411does synaptics have open-server?05:07
crimsunspermie_411: yes.05:07
Tim_One more question now that I have that package installed do i need to reboot for it to work?05:07
thr1cespermie_411, dunno, search05:07
tiglionabbit!info openssh-server05:07
ubotuopenssh-server: (Secure shell server, an rshd replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 253 kB, Installed size: 608 kB05:07
mdipinickrud, yeah thats per session though, not default05:07
thr1ceTim_, nope; only reboot in linux to change kernels, or add hardware05:07
naliothFormerWindowsUse: you asked a subjective question, all this linux soft is free, so why not try whatever you like?05:07
bob2thinice: that means it's not hardware raid05:07
FormerWindowsUsegood idea nalioth thanks05:07
naliothTim_: the only time you reboot is when you upgrade the kernel05:07
Tim_Ok, so I hcecked the checkbox for screen reader how do i get it talking?05:08
nickrudmdipi well, gdm asks if you want the newly selected session to be the default, I don't remember if kdm does05:08
spermie_411Thanks guys05:08
bob2thinice: if it's built into the motherabord, it's highly unlikely to be hardware raid05:08
naliothmdipi: when you select gnome, it will ask you if you want to make it default05:08
thr1ceTim_, hit apply at the top05:08
ubotunewbie: Bugger all, i dunno05:08
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ubotunewbie: I haven't a clue05:08
FormerWindowsUsenalioth:  does epiphany have good extensions like firefox?05:08
ubotumethinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto05:08
mdipinalioth, nickrud, it never asked to default it again, gmd does but KDE apparently doesnt05:08
naliothFormerWindowsUse: afaik, only ff uses05:08
gpledcrimsun: ok, i got aplay to work, but still no sound in x.  also can not get DSP to go up.  used alsamixer.05:08
thiniceit's got it's own raid controller chip.05:08
zZzZzUzPOKER [Holdem]  for LINUX? any suggestions???05:08
nickrudmdipi another reason to stick with gnome ;P05:09
capiWhats a good size for a boot partition? 500MB?05:09
bob2capi: you don't need one at all05:09
crimsungpled: which elements did you unmute?05:09
bob2capi: but 500MB is ridiculously large05:09
thr1cecapi, noo, WAY too much05:09
naliothFormerWindowsUse: however galeon, epiphany, kazehakase are all gecko based, so can all offer similar things05:09
bob2thinice: is it a desktop motherboard?05:09
tiglionabbitgpled: in X, right-click and get Properties on your speaker thing.  Then go through every section on every device and turn it up05:09
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thr1cecapi, a good kernel is about 1.5-2.0 mb05:09
bonggnuuse 40 mbytes05:09
mdipinickrud, yeah i know :P thats why i wanna default gnome again05:09
thr1ce6638    /boot/05:09
thinicebob2: yes it is - intel onboard raid asus -05:09
tiglionabbitwow, I did a 'cp' command that is taking ages05:09
bob2thinice: then it's not actually hardware raid05:10
thiniceit sure as hell aint software. ..05:10
naliothcapi: you really don't need one, but 200mb would be the biggest i'd use05:10
thinicewhat would you call it then ?05:10
nickrudmdipi then, the quick fix is aptitude install gdm05:10
bob2thinice: software05:10
FormerWindowsUsedoes anybody use p2p software here that they can legally mention? lol05:10
tiglionabbitit took like 2 minutes to cp 174mb from ext3 to fat3205:10
bob2thinice: if it was hardware, the OS wouldn't know anything about the disks behind it05:10
spermie_411permie@Spermie:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start05:10
spermie_411 * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...         [fail] 05:10
spermie_411why would it fail ?05:10
thr1cesudo ?05:10
thinicethat's what I thought -05:10
rob_ltFormerWindowsUse, I use Limewire which is perfectly legal in canada, and runs just fine on linux05:10
naliothnickrud: if he's got gnome, hes got gdm05:10
HrdwrBoBthr1ce: should still work05:11
thiniceif it was emulated tho, wouldn't I have to install software for it ?05:11
gpledhmm, esd sound cool. what does that do?05:11
thr1cels -l /etc/init.d/ssh05:11
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FormerWindowsUserob_lt:  is there a better alternative to LimeWire?05:11
thiniceor is it 'firmware software' /05:11
naliothFormerWindowsUse: java apps use a lot of system resources05:11
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tiglionabbitgtk-gnutella is okay05:11
naliothFormerWindowsUse: gtk-gnutella uses the same network05:11
rob_ltFormerWindowsUse, depends what you're after.  There's bittorrent, and ed2k clients too, though I don't use them.05:11
nickrudnalioth, if mdipi has gdm already installed, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and select gdm as the display manager05:11
JeremyPrivettHey guys. Would anyone be able to help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4829505:11
thr1ce@ spermie_41105:11
bob2thinice: you need a special driver for it that emulates raid, yes05:11
mdipinickrud, i'll give that a go05:12
FormerWindowsUselast time i tried gtk-gnutella it never connected.  how is this?05:12
spermie_411Wow thanks thr1ce it worked =)05:12
tiglionabbitJeremyPrivett: no thread05:12
spermie_411you the man05:12
bob2JeremyPrivett: something is extramly broken05:12
thr1cespermie_411, lol, all I had you do was check perms05:12
tiglionabbitoops wait05:12
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bob2JeremyPrivett: that error is your kernel crashing.  check the .inf file isn't corrupt, etc.05:12
spermie_411i see05:12
spermie_411sorry N00b05:13
thr1cebut it's working?05:13
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thr1celol ok05:13
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mdipinickrud, that worked fine05:13
f_r[a] n_kcan someone help me out please?05:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i'm havin some problems05:13
mdipinickrud, cheers mate!05:13
JeremyPrivettbob2, how would I go about doing that, if I can't get the computer to Boot?05:13
gpledok, if i run esd sound works05:13
gpledin x05:13
thr1cef_r[a] n_k, not if you don't ask a question05:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe power faild today and now an app keeps stalling05:14
crimsungpled: are you using gnome?05:14
bob2JeremyPrivett: wow, you have ndiswrapper running during boot?05:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat can i do to fix this?05:14
gpledcrimsun: yes05:14
f_r[a] n_kwell i installed ubuntu using the wrong resolution, now its all garbled05:14
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f_r[a] n_kand i cant see to change it05:14
tiglionabbitJeremyPrivett: you can use a livecd, like knoppix, to boot and make repairs on things05:14
crimsungpled: then do this: echo "snd_cs4236" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules05:14
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, in synaptic, there is an option to reinstall packages...try that ?05:14
bob2you don't even need to do that, just boot into reocvery mode05:14
naliothf_r[a] n_k: you dont need to see05:14
crimsungpled: sound will work, as it does now, when you reboot05:14
JeremyPrivettbob2, tried that already. It still crashed.05:15
tiglionabbitbrb, let me check something05:15
f_r[a] n_ki dont need to see?05:15
thiniceout of curiosity05:15
f_r[a] n_klike i cant log in05:15
naliothf_r[a] n_k: hit ctrl-alt-f3 and login05:15
thinicewhy is it so 'bad' to run x in root ?05:15
bob2JeremyPrivett: something has trashed your disk then05:15
thr1cethinice, security...imagine if someone "hacked in" with root access05:15
gpledcrimsun:  what does tee -a do?05:15
nalioththinice: b/c some programs will use the root priveleges to trash your account settings05:15
Tim_ok i got it to where gnopernicus starts when I start the machine, but when i click on click on applications accessability screen reader and magnifier i get no speech from the speakers.05:15
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crimsungpled: appends to file while also printing to stdout05:16
thinicenalioth: namely ?05:16
gpledcrimsun: thanks for for the /etc/modules tip05:16
thiniceI'm not runnin a shell server here...05:16
nalioththinice: .ICEauthority for one has been reported to be changed to read-only by nautilus05:16
JeremyPrivettbob2, is there anything that I can do?05:16
Tim_and if i'm not mistaken when i nstalled the gnompernicus it installed festval as well?05:17
bob2thinice: it's bad because it encourages people to be idiots.  having to use sudo raises the barrier for making fatal mistakes.05:17
bob2JeremyPrivett: dunno05:17
naliothf_r[a] n_k: are you here?05:17
bob2depends how bad it is05:17
f_r[a] n_kyeh05:17
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bob2or if that is indeed the problem05:17
f_r[a] n_ki logged in05:17
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gpledany idea why i need to run esd?05:17
thinicewell considering I just discovered my problem I'll never have to do it again05:17
bob2JeremyPrivett: if you expect help from people on the forums, you need to post way way more information thatn that05:17
thr1cegpled, why not ?05:17
f_r[a] n_khow do i change the resolution?05:17
crimsungpled: you don't _have_ to, but it's the default configuration.05:17
thr1cegpled, it does multiple application handling pretty well05:17
JeremyPrivettbob2, what kind of information?05:18
crimsungpled: else you'd have to configure things to use either oss or alsa05:18
thr1cef_r[a] n_k, well, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf for one05:18
f_r[a] n_kman i'm tottaly new at this05:18
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sky_monkey007I have a theoretical question.  If you have software package A and B that both depend on a particular version of package C, what happens when you upgrade package A that needs a newer version of C, if there was also no upgrade for package B that uses the older version of package C?05:18
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bob2JeremyPrivett: ie the whole error, not that one line05:18
naliothf_r[a] n_k: in your terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and fix your self05:18
sky_monkey007could you have 2 different version of a common dependency, like glibc, or something like that?05:18
bob2sky_monkey007: nothing.  B continues to work, A gets upgraded.05:18
Frank_dotsky_monkey007: package B will use the newer A05:19
bob2sky_monkey007: if C would break B, C would need to handle that.05:19
thr1cenalioth, always doing things the easy way...05:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYno option to reinstall the app is in synaptic >.<05:19
Frank_dotsky_monkey007: package B will use the newer C05:19
JeremyPrivettbob2, I can only see part of the error. It floods the screen, and I can only see about the last half. I can't scroll back up to see the rest.05:19
bob2sky_monkey007: no, you can't have multiple versions of the one package, and you cant make multiple glibc6 packages, either.05:19
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, right click, "mark for reinstallation"05:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe app isen't in synaptic05:19
nalioththr1ce: he said he bungled the video part of the install, not wanted more rez options05:19
sky_monkey007the reason I asked is because I remember when I was upgrading my GAIM and it needed a new version of glibc.  When I went to upgrade glibc6, it said that some other program depended on that particular version of glibc605:20
thr1cenalioth, ah...I still always change resolutions from xorg.conf05:20
gpledcrimsun: should i be using alsa?05:20
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crimsungpled: it's your choice. Breezy has moved to alsa natively.05:20
thr1celearned on slack remember05:20
nalioththr1ce: but we don't know if he bungled the driver, or the dispay type or what....05:20
nickrudmig1 hi05:20
sky_monkey007bob2, you think that was just a freak occurance perhaps?05:20
mig1err, evening, not afternoon heh05:20
gpledcrimsun: how do i tell my system to use alsa?05:21
mig1a few things05:21
mig11) does ubuntu support dvi?05:21
bob2sky_monkey007: er, no, that's user error05:21
Frank_dotsky_monkey007: maybe a bunch of other libraries need to follow glibc exactly05:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think it's something with my sound05:21
mig1new computer, dvi, monitor says "unsupported input"05:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYstalls out the app >.<05:21
sky_monkey007Frank_dot, thanks.  Thats what I figured.  I always used apt to install packages, but did try to install GAIM from source for that upgrade.05:22
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bob2sky_monkey007: using real ubuntu packages, you won't have that issue05:22
crimsunwhat's the deal with your sound, ChurcH_of_FoamY?05:22
sky_monkey007Aptitude is an awesome alternative to Synaptic, if you've never used it :)05:22
thr1ceChurcH_of_FoamY, run it from a terminal, see what errors are presented05:22
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mig1the other thing is... i'm trying to setup vsftpd from a live environment, and have it point to an ntfs usb hdd (corrupt ntfs table, ubuntu can read it, windows cannot)05:22
Frank_dotsky_monkey007: what I said is just a guess though05:22
konkimig1, yes..05:22
mig1i want to transfer from that hdd -> new machine via ftp05:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYi do run it in terminal it just laggs05:22
newbieguy's what the best place to instal grub in windows on linux ? i have install windows 1st05:22
gpledcrimsun: have to go.  thanks for all the help.05:22
thr1cewhat application?05:22
thiniceok - this is starting to get to me. I plug my digital cam in while logged into x as root - detects it fine and lets me see the images .05:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYnothing happens it goes to sleep05:22
mig1i can apt-get install vsftpd, however, i can't get a listing on the drive05:23
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thinicelogin as a normal user - detects device- doesn't detect the cam make or the pictures inside it.05:23
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thiniceI also can't launch the apps from the administrator menu -05:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYit worked before the power went out >.<05:23
bob2thinice: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood05:23
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: did you configure arts to release the sound device after a few seconds?05:23
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum no05:24
Frank_dotmig1: vsftpd is just the ftp server, nothing more05:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't even know what that is >.<05:24
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: are you using Kubuntu?05:24
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spermie_411where do i got to get a weather station for my town on k weather?05:24
thr1cehm...doesn't kde have troubles with changing /tmp perms?05:24
mig1ok, so how do i set the permissions on the drive, so that a nonroot user can read ?05:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYkubuntu is installed though but not used05:24
mig1its the auto mount from ubuntu livecd05:24
newbiehelp me05:24
thr1cemig1, man chmod05:24
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: then you'll need to configure esd to release the device after an idle period05:24
mig1i tried chmod05:24
thr1ceactually, man mount, check into umask options05:25
Madpilotspermie_411: right click on the weather thing, pick "Preferences"05:25
mig1says its a readonly file system05:25
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit worked fine before the power went out05:25
mig1will try that05:25
edamronI just installed ubuntu a few days ago.  Is there no root user?!  It seems that my normal logon has root powers?!05:25
spermie_411doesnt say preferences05:25
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thr1cemig1, what type of fylesystem?05:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats diffrent now?05:25
thr1ceah, umask should work well05:25
mig1i just want an anonymous ftp user to be able to read it05:25
crimsun!tell edamron about sudo05:25
Frank_dotedamron: no root user, you use sudo <command> instead05:25
ekhothis 1st time i use the linux05:25
Madpilotspermie_411: sorry, just realized you said K weather. I'm using the gnome weather thing...05:25
mig1i can: ln -s /media/usbhdd /var/ftp05:25
mig1and allow anonymous in vsftpd05:26
mig1however, it says list OK, open failed05:26
ekhocan help me?05:26
mig1i guess i dont have permissions, will try umask options in mount05:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYany ideas?05:26
edamroncrimsun, But when I do admin stuff it asks for my password and then gives me root powers.05:26
edamroncrimsun, is it doing sudo behind my back?05:26
ekhosome one please help me..05:27
crimsunedamron: gksudo05:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYekho whats up?05:27
misfit_toyekho, what is your question?05:27
naliothekho: you need to ask a question05:27
thr1cehm...in synaptic, does tuxracer = tuxkart?05:27
Tracecrimsun, i download the source code of alsa 1.0.9, but it seems don't have snd-azx driver.05:27
ekhohow to show file windows05:27
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mig1actually i dont even need the ln -s, if i say: anon_root in vsftpd.conf, however i need to make sure i have permissions set05:28
GigaClonhow do install fonts on ubuntu05:28
edamronOkay so I can delete this profile and create a diff. one without trouble?05:28
naliothGigaClon: drop them into your ~/.fonts directory05:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYekho whats your native laungauge?05:28
misfit_toyekho, at the top left, "places"05:28
GigaClonwhats ~05:28
Madpilotthr1ce: tuxkart seems to be there too05:28
edamronThe reason I ask is that I have an nfs server and my user ID is wrong on the client.05:28
TraceI tried dpkg-reconfig alsa-source, but i don't see modules for snd-azx05:28
thr1ceMadpilot, yeah, i changed search from tux to kart, and found it05:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYok um is there a room for his laugauge?05:28
nickrudGigaClon ~/.icons for a single user, /usr/local/share/fonts so all users on the machine can use them05:29
nickrudGigaClon ~ means05:29
crimsunTrace: did you select the azx driver?05:29
misfit_toyekho "places"/ "computer"05:29
konkican KDE based application run/install on GNOME??05:29
naliothGigaClon: ~ is a shortcut for /home/yournamehere05:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas hi ^_^05:29
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ekhoi cant understant05:29
nickrudGigaClon bad enter ;) ~ means `/home/<current user>05:29
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edamronIs there an easy way to change a user's UID so that it'll match an NFS server's UID for that person?05:30
ekhonow i use linux Ubuntu05:30
naliothkonki: yes it can05:30
misfit_toyekho and you want to see the files and folders right?05:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwill someone refer ekho to a room that he can understand? (indeonisa)05:30
ekhoi want to see my file windows Xp05:31
misfit_toyekho, oh05:31
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thiniceI fixed the admin menu issue05:31
TraceI don't find azx item when i do dpkg-reconfig alsa-source,05:31
Tracei use 1.0.905:31
edamronIs there an easy way to change a user's UID so that it'll match an NFS server's UID for that person?05:32
konkithanks nalioth..05:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYMorton's Law:05:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYIf rats are experimented upon, they will develop cancer.05:33
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misfit_toyand also "Murphy was an optimist".05:33
Velcanif i were to make an sh script that issued a command prior to opening an app is there a way to issue a command(s) when that app is closed?05:33
sky_monkey007does anybody remember what applet Ubuntu installs as stock for wireless signal strength?05:34
edamroncrimsun, Is there an easy way to change a user's UID so that it'll match an NFS server's UID for that person?05:34
nickrudVelcan just have the commands follow the app in the script, as a general rule05:34
ekhonow i open root terminal05:34
crimsunedamron: sure, edit the appropriate system files05:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYnever look up when a dragon flys overhead >.<05:34
edamroncrimsun, LOL.  That does NOT sound easy.05:34
naliothVelcan: are you familiar with bash scripting?05:35
ubotuGigaClon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:35
crimsunedamron: it's not too difficult. Look at /etc/passwd05:35
edamroncrimsun, thanks I'll take a look05:35
Velcanok. for instance whenever i run WoW via cedega i have to killall esd .... i could just do killall esd; cedega path/to/wow.exe; esd ?05:35
ekhocrimsum help me05:36
crimsunedamron: of course, it's much easier to just pass the appropriate uid to whichever UNIX command that attempts to mount an NFS export05:36
crimsunekho: with?05:36
Velcanyea i ama  little05:36
edamroncrimsun, Yeah, I should have set the proper UID when I created my account05:36
Velcanim no guru but aspire to be ...05:36
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ekhoi want to see my windows folder05:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYLinux is not user-friendly.05:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYIt _is_ user-friendly.  It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.05:36
edamroncrimsun, but it was the first time I've installed ubuntu05:36
ekhonow i open root terminal05:37
nickrudhm, the tldp's bash link is from 2000; does anyone have a more recent/better one?05:37
edamroncrimsun, Maybe I should just save my home directory. delete the account and recreate it with the proper UID05:37
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chris__can anyone guide me through mounting my NTFS partitions please?  Knoppix was able to do it seemlessly, so there must be a way...05:38
ekhowhere a folder of windows05:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O i dopn't think so05:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just find humorus things sometimes05:38
nickrudVelcan that is the correct direction05:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYand paste them05:38
bonggnuholy, i can grab a cdr with cdrdao, but i cannot make it with cdrecord,05:38
crimsunedamron: just change the uid in /etc/passwd05:38
cafuego!tell chris__ -about user accessible ntfs05:38
nalioths_dogchris__: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically05:38
crimsunedamron: but it's much more beneficial to read the mount uid options05:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYSir! i am insulted >.<05:38
Heinrichis there a list of wireless desktop adaptors ubuntu supports???05:38
Velcangreat. thanks nickrud05:38
ekhochurch can you help me?05:39
nickrudVelcan the link I've found is http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html; for what you want, it will help a lot05:39
edamroncrimsun, oh... I can add some parm. to pass the UID the nfs server expects?05:39
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chris__Thank you both of you05:39
Velcanawesome. i'll bookmark that now. thanks! :)05:39
naliothHeinrich: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDatabase05:39
edamroncrimsun, Thanks you've been a big help.05:40
cafuegoedamron: Are the usernames the same?05:40
edamroncafuego, yep05:40
GigaClonnickrud: 404 on that URL05:40
cafuegoedamron: Just run ugidd05:40
cafuegoedamron: (on the client and server)05:40
edamroncafuego, what does that do?05:40
chris__nalioths_dog:  Sorry I'm still just getting started with linux, how do I run this exactly?  Just set it as an executable?05:40
cafuegoedamron: And pass map_daemon in the exports file; it will then chat with the server and handle the mapping automagically.05:41
naliothchris__: yes05:41
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edamroncafuego, very kewl!05:41
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edamroncafuego, the server is a suse 9.3 box.  I wonder if it comes with that05:42
nickrudGigaClon I just reloaded it, it came in here: maybe you caught the semi-colon a the end?05:42
edamronThanks all!  I've got something to chew on now!05:42
chris__nalioths_dog: Okay, I've ran it, how do I tell if it works? Thank you for all the help05:43
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sizzamhey everyone05:43
bimberichris__: type df - and see if it is ounted05:43
naliothchris__: look in /media, i believe05:43
sizzamim using an Athlon XP 3000+ processor, whats the best kernel for me?05:43
karnage-im trying to compile PHP 4.4.0 from source for use with Apache 2.0 on Ubuntu 5.04, and it cannot find aspx2... does this mean apache2 needs to be compiled from source also?05:44
GigaClonnickrud: I love the last point in 1.3 of that05:44
nickrudGigaClon lol, I didn't see that05:44
chris__hmm, it doesn't appear to be mounted05:44
chris__nalioths_dog: It doesn't appear to be mounted, must I run it as root?05:45
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naliothchris__: yes it needs to be run using sudo05:45
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nickrudGigaClon all kidding aside, I recommend Learning the Bash Shell, published by O'Rielly. I've bought a few books over the years, it's the only one still on my desk (1998 edition)05:45
mig1ok well, i mounted the usb hdd using: mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbhdd -t ntfs -o ro,gid=users05:45
mig1.etc/vsftpd.conf has default values, anonymous_enable=YES, anon_root=/media/usbhdd/05:46
sky_monkey007does anyone here run wireless that can recommend a decent applet that tells me the signal strength?05:46
mig1i have restarted vsftpd after changing the conf file, i can connect, however i get: Transfer done (but failed to open directory).05:46
mig1so i can't list05:46
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sky_monkey007I'm using gtkwifi right now, and it doesn't list signal strength05:47
liableekho: your in #ubuntu now..05:47
tranchi, sorry the question does anyone knows where can i find an oracle channel?05:48
mig1ideas please?05:48
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toresbeekho: Sorry, my IRC client messed up05:48
toresbeekho: yeah, I'm here now.05:49
ekhonow you can help me?05:49
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toresbeekho: you want to mount your Windows partition, right?05:49
Diablo-D3whats the official ubuntu method of getting stuff to start on boot that doesnt involve init.d/rc2.s05:49
ekhonow i have open root terminal05:49
chris__this is wierd, when I do su and put in my password it says "su: Authentication failure"05:49
tranccafuego, i already try that, nothing useful, thanks any way05:49
thr1cechris__, use sudo05:50
toresbechris__: well, yeah05:50
naliothchris__: ubuntu doesnt use su05:50
toresbechris__: use sudo05:50
spermie_411can someone look up the weather station for kweather, for a martinsburg west virginia Plzzzzzzz05:50
naliothchris__: use 'sudo'05:50
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toresbechris__: You can sudo su if you want05:50
toresbeekho: okay...05:50
ekhohow to see my windows folder05:50
helloyodoes anyone know a way of adding some totem key bindings?05:50
chris__I put in sudo....it just told me a lot of usage options....05:50
chris__should I put like sudo root05:50
toresbeekho: Do you want to use your Windows partition?05:50
GigaClonsudo -i05:50
toresbechris__: what is your prompt?05:50
Diablo-D3spermie_411: just a s ec05:50
karnage-im trying to compile PHP 4.4.0 from source for use with Apache 2.0 on Ubuntu 5.04, and its not creating the apache module because it cannot find aspx2... does this mean apache2 needs to be compiled from source also?05:50
Madpilotspermie_411: a quick google shows that the nearest airport might be KMRB05:51
chris__toresbe: 'Terminal'  chris@hoaryhedgehog: /home/chris05:51
toresbeekho: does it say # or $?05:51
Diablo-D3spermie_411: shepherd airport05:51
toresbechris__: sorry, wrong nick05:51
ekhoits #05:51
helloyowould there be anyway to add some more key shortcuts to totem (xine)05:51
Diablo-D3spermie_411: its a nice 72f down there05:51
toresbeekho: okay05:52
toresbeekho: do "nano /etc/fstab" w/o quotes05:52
naliothkarnage-: need -dev libs for all involved05:52
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mig1no ideas?05:52
chris__I don't think I understand how sudo works.....05:52
Velcancan anyone tell me if rhythmbox supports mp3? ... or not if it does but rather if it can.05:52
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uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:52
chris__Am I supposed to put something after sudo?05:52
toresbechris__: yeah05:52
naliothVelcan: it supports mp305:52
toresbechris__: whatever command you want to run as root05:52
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toresbechris__: sudo means "superuser do"05:53
Velcanany idea where i can get the plugin?05:53
naliothchris__: sudo winmacfs or whatever the thing is called05:53
toresbeor run as root05:53
Velcani can google if ya like just wondering if ya know :P05:53
ekhotoresbe : i have do that05:53
toresbeekho: okay, can you /msg me the contents?05:53
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ekhonow i used indonsia language in my linux05:54
toresbethat's no problem, please paste it anyway05:54
ekho/etc/fstab: static file system information.05:54
toresbeno, not here05:55
toresbein a /msg05:55
firebird318Hi, I just installed Ubuntu today and I am trying to install my modem. I am to the point where I have to run hsfconfig to configure the modem. It asks me: "Where is the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" What directory should I enter? I have Ubuntu 5.0405:55
toresbeekho: type /query toresbe05:55
Diablo-D3firebird318: you have to install the headers package for your kernel05:55
chris__oh my it worked! :-* You guys are awesome!05:55
toresbechris__: we know it ;P05:55
Diablo-D3firebird318: then it will automatically fill in the right dir05:55
bimberichris__: it's a teriffic script!05:55
chris__yes it is!05:55
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toresbenalioth: what's that ?05:55
Wa77zanyone know how to unblock someone in gaim ??/05:56
ekhoits no thing happen in my root terminal05:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYok this is really weard05:56
ubotunickrud: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:56
toresbenalioth: is there an automatic script to attach a win partition?05:56
firebird318Well it has a directory of /usr/src/linux which doesn't even exist. Is the headers package on the Ubuntu disk05:56
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is ""https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats"", or codecs05:56
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nickrudVelcan that was for you05:56
ekho <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>05:56
ekhoproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       005:56
ekho/dev/hdc3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       105:56
ekho/dev/hdc6       none            swap    sw              0       005:56
ekho/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       005:56
ekho/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       005:56
helloyoWa77z, its bloody awkward, but you have to go into "Tools > Preferences" and tinker around05:56
nalioths_dogtoresbe: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically05:56
TraceOK, snd_azx change the name to hda_intel, thx crimsun!!!05:56
spermie_411Madpilot what website did you get KMRB off of05:56
Wa77zi found it05:56
toresbeekho: okay,please run this:05:56
crimsunTrace: for newer versions than 1.0.8, yes05:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYi try to play beep media player and nothing happens....the i open up system monitor and all the proccess are sleeping is that normal?05:56
Wa77z= )05:57
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toresbenalioths_dog: excellent!05:57
toresbeekho: wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab05:57
jc_chell I just can't wait for breezy... This will be a kick ass release for us laptop users :)05:57
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toresbeekho: sudo sh winmac_fstab05:57
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to change the output to esound if you're using default Ubuntu sound configuration05:57
crimsundh0: what sound card?05:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYno i'm not05:57
seth_kjc_c: the 2.6.12-2 kernel has Alps touchpad patches, FINALLY05:57
GigaCloni get the same thing as foamy with RealPlayer05:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYi followd a howto awile ago and then the power faild now no sound app will work05:58
ekhoi have back to : root@Raynaldi:~ #05:58
GigaClonhow can I change the sound configuration05:58
dh0crimsun: old machine. old card. it is an audigy something. let me check05:58
robotgeekseth_k: so, is that in the ubuntu update?05:58
naliothtoresbe: i dont think you can sudo sh something05:58
jc_cseth_k: my personal most awaited feature is NetworkManager :)05:58
seth_krobotgeek: it's in Breezy now, yes05:58
naliothtoresbe: i think you have to sudo -s and then sh something in the same terminal05:58
helloyoanyway of adding more keybindings to totem?05:58
robotgeeknalioth: sudo ./script works!05:59
dh0crimsun: audigy sound blaster ct417005:59
ekhor u there?05:59
crimsundh0: erm, audigy ct4170?05:59
naliothrobotgeek: if the script is 'executable'05:59
robotgeekseth_k: i was trying to get my friend to move over to ubuntu, his touchpad wudn't work05:59
robotgeeknalioth: true05:59
firebird318Where can I get the Headers Package for Ubuntu 5.0405:59
naliothrobotgeek: and the winmac_fstab isnt when it downloads05:59
dh0i pulled audigy out of my ass05:59
dh0sound blaster ct417006:00
crimsunyeah, you definitely pulled that one out06:00
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crimsunit's an isa card, which means you need to use snd_sb1606:00
dh0dunno why i thought that06:00
robotgeeknalioth: do a chmod +x script06:01
dh0where would i find that? i quick search of apt didnt get it06:01
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supernixhas anyone here tried Koffice against OpenOffice ?06:01
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dh0crimsun: ^06:01
crimsundh0: open a terminal and sudo modprobe snd_sb1606:01
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dh0ah cool06:01
robotgeeknalioth: to make it executable06:01
dh0no errors06:02
naliothrobotgeek: yes i know how to do it06:02
naliothrobotgeek: thank you06:02
parkbenchAIE: still having the same problem as a week ago. wireless on my ubuntubox just refuses to work. i'm so desperate to delve into ubuntu but i have had 0 chance and i hate it :( i've tried anything...anyone care to trial and error with me?06:02
blrichcould someone help? i'm having a problem playing movies with sound in mplayer. followed the 'unofficial ubuntu guide' to get mplayer in, it works fine, but whenever i play a movie with sound, literally every frame an error window pops up saying 'alsa-control: unable to find simple control PCM,0'06:02
dh0that it?06:02
crimsundh0: good, now unmute the Master and PCM sliders06:02
crimsun(and of course increase the volumes)06:02
ekhoi'm so confuse....06:02
ekhohelp me...06:02
robotgeeknalioth: sorry!06:03
nickrudblrich I would recommend removing the stuff from the ubuntuguide, and getting the ubuntu supported mplayer. You'll have better support here.06:03
spermie_411how do u kill a progrsm that froze?06:03
ekhotoresbe : where are u ?06:03
dh0i presume you are refering to aumix, right06:03
crimsundh0: you may not have a master. Look at alsamixer or amixer.06:03
blrichnickrud, how do i get that? mplayer isn't in apt-cache normally06:03
blrichspermie_411, killall program-name06:03
nickrudblrich yes, it's in multiverse, I'll do a couple of ubotu things06:04
ubotufrom memory, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view06:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:04
chris__ah....xmms locked up, how do I shut down something that stops responding?06:04
robotgeekdoesn't work :)06:04
ubotu[esd]  Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.06:05
dh0crimsun: ok. i do have it. it is up06:05
dh0what now?06:05
rekachris__: killall xmms06:05
crimsundh0: unmute the Master and/or PCM elements06:05
chris__reka: Thank you!06:05
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dh0i slip them up. does that count?06:05
rekachris__: if it locked up, you might want to try changing the output plugin to esound in preferences06:05
dh0or is that not what u mean06:06
crimsundh0: but you need to unmute them, too06:06
naliothchris__: you can do Applications > Run Application > xkill and then touch the magic wand on the offensive program06:06
dh0how do i do that06:06
crimsundh0: which program are you using?06:06
rekachris__: you might also want to have a look at beep-media-player: it's a prettier xmms clone06:06
spermie_411for real tho, can someone gimmie that web address for k weather , so i can get my station i need because it wont let me type it in for some reason06:06
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crimsundh0: then use amixer sset 'element' on06:06
naliothreka: where you been hiding?06:06
pinkogood evening, gents.06:06
rekanalioth: been a little busy :)06:07
chris__reka: can it play mp3s?06:07
naliothso i see06:07
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rekachris__: it's an xmms clone :)06:07
blrichnickrud, should i just add all four subtypes to each repository line?06:07
dh0crimsun: i'm sorry. not sure what you mean. i dont see anything that sayss element06:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYok something in gnome is busted >.<06:07
naliothchris__: you need to install the libs for mp3 and dvd and stuff06:07
rekanalioth: actually, the few times i dropped in, you were either sleeping or working.06:07
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crimsundh0: replace element with Master, PCM, etc.06:08
ubotuI heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories06:08
naliothreka: well, i need to slow down some, then06:08
crimsundh0: here, just paste the output from amixer onto the pastebin in the topic06:08
pinkoI wonder about stream capturing, especially of a rm file being offered through rtsp://.  any advice?06:08
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nickrudblrich a sec, let me get my favorite link for that06:08
rekachris__: you don't need an mp3 lib if you're using xmms or bmp.  they come with their own06:08
TimAnyone familiar with Gnopernicus?06:08
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skullfirehey all06:08
dh0oops, i am using alsamixer my bad06:08
crimsundh0: ok, then press 'm' to unmute06:09
GigaClonis there a way I can setup a program to bypass esd?06:09
skullfireim having some trouble installing ubuntu 5.04 from my CD06:09
dh0heh ok thanks06:09
chris__reka: bmp doesn't appear to be in the package manager :-X06:09
rekachris__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:09
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dh0crimsun: i didnt get any feedback when i pressed m. is that ok?06:09
GigaClonreka beat me to it06:09
nickrudblrich https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles , the better organized version06:09
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rekaGigaClon: :)06:10
crimsundh0: just paste amixer onto the pastebin in the topic06:10
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TimI've got it all installed but having trouble iwth the speech output.06:10
skullfirewhen i boot ubuntu from the Live-CD, the startup freezes after looking for "mice" on PS-2 devices06:10
skullfirewny ideas?06:10
edamronwhat file do I edit to make the ugidd service start at boot?06:10
rekaskullfire: telling us what kind of trouble you're having might help :)06:10
naliothchris__: it may be called beep media player06:10
crimsun(it's beep-media-player)06:10
dh0thanks for your patience crimsun06:10
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crimsundh0: you need to increase Master and PCM06:12
IcemanV9did anyone have experience with firefox shuts down for NO reason?? i could not find core or any error messages .. is that bug??06:12
sizzamwhats the best way to go about updating my kernel?  i updated it, but im having all sorts of problems, had to go back to the old one06:12
naliothIcemanV9: thats a hint, lol06:12
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firebird318On my computer with Ubuntu I can only get a screen resolution of 640x480. Why is this and what can I do to fix it? Can anyone help me?06:12
GigaClonis there any way to have a program bypass esd06:12
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:13
nalioth!tell firebird318 about resolution06:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi broke the sound in gnome >.<06:13
crimsunGigaClon: assuming the program allows you to pick a sound api, yes06:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis sucks06:13
firebird318I will check that link out. Thanks06:13
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: paste the output of the following to the pastebin in the topic: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer06:13
chris__you guys are so helpful it's amazing06:13
dh0crimsun: i set them to max with alsamixer06:14
Velcannickrud:  do you know if there is a plugin for rythymbox to be able to edit id3 tags?06:14
skullfirereka-any idea?06:14
dh0what next?06:14
GigaCloncrimsun, it checks for me06:14
IcemanV9nalioth: dang .. will check the bugzilla once more to make sure it's there or not06:14
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crimsundh0: have you used aplay to test whether sound is played?06:14
nickrudVelcan not yet, I use easytag for that06:14
dh0i have not06:14
crimsundh0: then use aplay to play one of the wav files in /usr/share/sounds/06:14
crimsunGigaClon: which app?06:15
Velcani love the organization of rythymbox but i have quite a few songs with broken id3 tags getting sorted into the 'unknown' category06:15
skullfirewhen i boot ubuntu from the Live-CD, the startup freezes after looking for "mice" on PS-2 devices06:15
skullfireany ideas?06:15
nickrudVelcan easytag has a very unintuitive interface, but it'll do just about anything06:15
rekaskullfire: so it freezes *after* the mouse detection, not during?06:15
GigaClonand before you ask it can't use ESD due to latancy issues06:15
skullfirei dont know06:16
skullfireit says06:16
naliothwell, y'all keep up the good work06:16
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skullfiremice: ----------- PS2 device something06:16
blrichnickrud, thanks =)06:16
skullfireand well.. it just stays there06:16
crimsunGigaClon: then just use oss06:16
dh0i ran it. crimsun yeah it definately worked. and somehow managed to make me jump. threw the headphones. lol06:16
dh0thanks a lot06:16
skullfirei can type on the next line too06:16
crimsundh0: so sound works. You need to do this: echo "snd_sb16" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules06:16
skullfireand i was pressing keys about 3 minutes after waiting06:17
crimsundh0: that way sound will work automatically06:17
skullfireand i pressed PRINTSCR key and this error shows up hehe06:17
skullfirebut still06:17
GigaClonboth ALSA and OSS are being used by esd06:17
skullfirei cant test ubuntu!06:17
dh0tee, never heard of that one. okay thanks a lot crimsun. really appreciate it06:17
skullfireperhaps with advanced options?06:17
crimsunGigaClon: so either configure esd to release the device /dev/dsp after a very short idle period, or use esdctl to stop it yourself06:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYcrimsun http://pastebin.com/31166606:18
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crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, I see06:18
dh0crimsun: that will use /dev/dsp, right?06:18
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rekaskullfire: not really sure.... but:  [1]  does the CD work on another computer? [2]  what mouse do you have?06:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh diden't know if you got it sorry06:18
crimsundh0: esd on Ubuntu is configured by default to use /dev/dsp through ALSA's OSS emulation, yes06:18
jc_chey anyone has a gmail invite for me?06:19
skullfirei have a usb mouse06:19
ekhoboss jerry...06:19
dh0jc_c i have like a thouasand06:19
dh0whats ur email?06:19
jerryiye kenape06:19
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: mute Capture06:19
GigaCloncrimsun how do I do that06:19
ekhogw mo liat file windows gimane ye?06:19
skullfirestandard DELL dimension mouse06:19
rekaskullfire: and number [1]  ?06:19
jerryini pake apa ?06:19
jerryubuntu ya ?06:19
dh0jc_c: ???06:20
skullfirehavent tested it06:20
ekhoroot terminal06:20
skullfirebut i thought the cd was damaged06:20
skullfireso i burnt it06:20
ekhoiya gw pake ubuntu...06:20
skullfireand tried the burnt disk.. but still06:20
chris__rena: bmp locks up when I go to play a mp3 as well06:20
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crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: also, mute Headphone if it still doesn't work06:20
IcemanV9skullfire: unplug and replug the mouse06:20
crimsunchris__: make sure you select the esound output plugin if you're using default Ubuntu sound config06:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok ^_^06:21
jc_cdh0: I messaged it to you06:21
skullfirewhen it freezes?06:21
blrichanyone know a good graphical mixer application for alsa? trying to get my external soundcard working06:21
skullfireor right now?06:21
chris__crimsun: How do I do that?06:21
ekhojerry : Boss06:21
IcemanV9skullfire: as of now06:21
crimsunchris__: Preferences06:21
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dh0oh, crap how do i switch to a message in irssi?06:21
skullfirewhy so.. its working alright06:21
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jerryLineighboorhood ada nga /06:21
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crimsunblrich: alsamixer-gui, Volume Control, KMix, etc.06:21
ekhodimana tuh?06:21
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dh0jc_c, hold on. if i leave the chanel, i will be right back06:22
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jerryfile transfer06:22
crimsunblrich: sorry, that first one is alsamixergui06:22
s0lidhow can i change the refresh rate of my monitor06:22
IcemanV9skullfire: it happened to me before .. something with the interrupt .. it wouldn't let go until you unplug the mouse .. it's weird, but works06:22
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skullfireill try that06:22
ekhogw pake bhs Indonesia linuxnya...06:22
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: also, your PCM is set kinda low06:22
skullfireright now im on windows06:22
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: try increasing it06:22
skullfireand its working fine06:22
skullfireu wnat me to unplug06:23
skullfirerun liveCD right?06:23
s0lidhow can i change the refresh rate of my monitor06:23
frankI just reinstalled ubuntu and I accidently forgot to tar my backed up files so now that they're all loaded back they are chmodded 644 and are all octet-streams. Any quick way to fix this?06:23
IcemanV9skullfire: sometimes you'll unplug the mouse 'til livecd runs through .. then plug in the mouse06:23
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IcemanV9skullfire: i have usb mouse right next to me :)06:24
jerrygue nga hapal kalau pake ubuntu06:24
jerrysoalnya setiap window beda2 semua distro06:24
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jerrycoba lo ke prompt #06:25
rekajerry, ekho: would you guys mind using /msg?06:25
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frankhow would i go about changeing the mimetype of a lot of files?06:25
skullfirehmm ok06:25
jerryhello reka06:26
skullfireice, will u be here for a while06:26
skullfireim gonna test this06:26
dh0i am having a strange network issue. sometimes when i boot 50% eth0 never gets brought up. i dont know whats up. and my attempts to do it manually (probobly incorectly) fail06:26
IcemanV9skullfire: yep06:26
nickrudfrank just what do you mean by that?06:26
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Madpilothas anyone gotten one of those combo printer-scanner units working OK in Ubuntu?06:27
ChrisxxThank you to whomever that was that suggested the esound plugin :)06:27
nickrudfrank the mime type is usually determined by the actual file type, if I recall correctly06:27
crimsunChrisxx: yw06:27
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ChrisxxUbuntu is amazing :) Supports my 9600 and onboard sound out of the box06:27
Madpilota relative has one, and I'd like to get them converted to U seamlessly...06:27
rekaChrisxx: 1st linux distro?06:28
blrichcrimsun, i installed and ran alsamixergui because i've used that before, and it now says: no mixer elems found06:28
blrichcrimsun, i'm presuming that's bad06:28
ChrisxxI tried debian, but I couldn't get the resolution to change from 800x60006:28
crimsunblrich: cat /proc/asound/modules06:28
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Chrisxxthen I came here06:28
rekaChrisxx: that's a common problem in ubuntu as well.06:28
ekhosome can give tutorial for ubuntu?06:29
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Chrisxxit defaulted to 1600x1200 for me06:29
crimsunekho: try the wiki06:29
WheatleyDoes a default install of Ubuntu have a firewall that would block port 27015? I'm trying to host a CS:S dedicated server but no connections from WAN are getting in.06:29
Chrisxxwhich is just about perfect06:29
crimsunWheatley: no daemons listen on external interfaces, so no firewall runs.06:29
ekhowhat its that?06:29
rekaChrisxx: nice.  at a guess, looks like ubuntu detected your montor correctly while debian did not.06:30
ekhocrimsun: what its wiki?06:30
frankhey is there a way or a program to "smartly" assign a mime-type because all of my files were set to octet streams and now its a hassle to do anything06:30
Wheatleycrimsun: hmmm. So any idea why the connections wouldn't be getting through?06:30
crimsunekho: http://wiki.ubuntu.com06:30
crimsunWheatley: look at your cable modem/router06:30
Chrisxxreka: May have been, I'm a fan of high resolutions so this works great for me06:30
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Chrisxxand I've found that theres nothing I can do in windows that I can't in linux06:31
IcemanV9Chrisxx: 1600x1200 .. nice size! can do many tasks on ONE desktop screen - impress friends & co-worker ;)06:31
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Chrisxxplus linux seems to run faster than windows06:31
crimsunblrich: still waiting06:31
Wheatleycrimsun: The router is configured correctly. It forwards port 27015 to the local IP of that machine. :-/06:32
Madpilothmmm... anyone running Lexmark scanner-printer combos under Ubuntu?06:32
crimsunWheatley: there is no firewall running on Ubuntu by default. You need to make sure you don't have other software running that mucks with that.06:32
ChrisxxNow I have to start making my desktop beautiful ;-)06:32
MadpilotChrisxx: for eye candy: http://www.gnome-look.org/  :)06:33
mortarhateshouldn't blackbox and enlightenment at least attempt to populate the menu's on their own?06:33
blrichcrimsun, 0 snd_usb_audio06:33
blrichcrimsun, it's an Edirol UA-5 external soundbox, of course linux probably doesn't have drivers but I'm surprised it can't even change the volume on it. weirdly enough, sound does comes through, but I'm playing a movie or something I get similar errors about no miser controls etc.06:33
WheatleyHmm, I'm going to try a different port and see what happens06:33
GigaClonALSA error: pcm_hw.c:1158 snd_pcm_hw_open: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed (Device or resource busy)06:33
mortarhateall other distro's i used they do06:33
GigaClonfuser show nothing06:33
crimsunblrich: it works fine. You need a newer version of alsa-driver, though. Use alsa-source from universe.06:34
crimsun!tell blrich about alsa-source06:34
ChrisxxMadpilot: Thanks for the recommendation, I'm also going to have to get some widgets06:34
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GigaClonALSA driver 1.0.606:34
mortarhatei guess i just have to make the whole menu by hand ):06:34
blrichcrimsun, waiting for what?06:34
MadpilotChrisxx: lots of panel toys included in Ubuntu...06:34
blrichcrimsun, okay i'll check out alsa-source06:35
crimsunblrich: what you just said06:35
ChrisxxMadpilot: What do you mean?  How do I access them?06:35
crimsunGigaClon: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*06:35
IcemanV9Chrisxx: try industrial + bright + gperfection2 (for theme)06:35
MadpilotChrisxx: right-click on either the top or bottom panel of Ubuntu. select "add to panel". pick toys & programs!06:36
crimsunGigaClon: then try again06:36
ChrisxxI'm going to install gdesklets as well06:36
blrichcrimsun, thanks =)06:36
MadpilotChrisxx: Wanda The Fish is mandantory! ;)06:36
blrichcrimsun, "If you agree then the ALSA drivers will be built with support for the isa-pnp driver" should i say yes?06:37
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crimsunblrich: no. And say yes to debug.06:37
crimsunblrich: then choose the usb driver.06:37
GigaCloncrimsun stepmania 10998 gigaclon  mem    CHR 116,16      7959 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:37
GigaClonstepmania 10998 gigaclon    7u   CHR 116,16      7959 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:37
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hanasakiis there a thing like deibans make-kpkg?06:38
crimsunGigaClon: looks fine to me (stepmania has grabbed the alsa sound devices)06:38
blrichcrimsun, okay building usb driver, unchecked 'all' as well06:38
crimsunhanasaki: yes, kernel-package is available06:38
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GigaClonmust be a bug in program06:38
blrichshould i also uninstall also-utils or any of that other stuff too?06:38
crimsunblrich: don't touch the other alsa stuff06:39
hanasakihmm this is all on gcc 3.3 not 4.x?06:39
GigaClonwhats the current alsa driver number?06:39
GigaClonI have 1.0.606:39
crimsunthere's no compelling reason to update unless you have one of the very new sound chipsets06:40
ChrisxxWanda the fish has been added ;-)06:40
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hanasakiis there a make-jpkg too?06:40
crimsunhanasaki: java-package, yes06:40
GigaClongood night all06:41
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hanasakihmm whats it in.. i have universe but no java-package06:41
MadpilotWanda The Fish says, "Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson"... :)06:42
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crimsunhanasaki: multiverse06:43
hanasakisomething new to learn06:43
hanasakiwhts that06:43
parkbenchOH MY GOD06:43
crimsunlicense-restricted repo06:43
parkbenchoh my god. oh my god :O06:43
ubotusomebody said components was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view06:43
crimsun'grats, parkbench06:43
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nickrudhanasaki that components will tell you about multiverse06:44
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sinfernowhats a good soulseek client06:44
IcemanV9parkbench: are you running FREE with laptop in the park?? :P06:44
parkbenchcrimsun: thank you06:44
hanasakiwow.. mroe new.. whats soulseek06:44
crimsunsinferno: nicotine06:44
parkbenchoh my god im cryign with tears of joy06:44
deFrysksoulseek, is it still around ?06:44
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sinfernocrimsun, thnx i saw several and wasnt sure which to get06:44
marcel_Does anyone know how to make linux printing equal to windows printing, quality wise? My printer is a HP 656C and the fonts look too blocky when printed06:44
mortarhateonly for winblows afaik06:45
parkbenchyeah soulseeks still around06:45
sinfernodeFrysk, yeah i have been using it for years06:45
parkbenchi download thirty fourty albums from slsk a day06:45
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sinfernosoulseek is the best for getting full albums beside bittorrent06:45
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spartacushi. how do i use my windows fonts in ubuntu?06:46
parkbenchSO GUYS06:46
rekamarcel_: you checked the quality settings in printer prefs/settings?06:46
parkbenchwhat do you suggest i do first? app-wise, i guess? i already have several things in mind, but i want to hear your opinions06:46
spartacusto which folder am i supposed to copy the fonts to? to ~/.fonts ?06:46
Marble2what do I need to install to get totem-xine to play a .mkv file?06:46
parkbenchubuntu is my first foray into linux06:46
parkbenchand im very happy it works now06:46
nickrudmarcel_ you can try the gimpprint drivers, they are supposed to be good for hp's06:46
spartacusparkbench, http://www.ubuntuguide.org06:46
hanasakihmm i dont want multiverse.. i want a pakcage like in deiban that makes a .deb from the sundownload06:46
ChrisxxSorry to ask a stupid question, but what is a daemon?06:47
rekaMarble2: you mean .mov?06:47
hanasakibackrond process06:47
ChrisxxI thought that was the BSD mascot <_<;06:47
deFrysksinferno, nicotine seemt the app to use for soulseek06:47
hanasakithat does stuff06:47
hanasakilke an email sever06:47
marcel_reka: Yep06:47
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dh0i am having a strange network issue. sometimes when i boot 50% eth0 never gets brought up. i dont know whats up. and my attempts to do it manually (probobly incorectly) fail06:47
Marble2reka: no, .mkv06:47
marcel_nickrud: Oh? Better than HPIJS? HP's offical driver?06:47
spartacusChrisxx, something that runs on its own. without intervention once started06:48
frankdoes anyone know how to chmod 755 all directories in ~ ?06:48
Marble2matroska video file06:48
Chrisxxah, okay thank you06:48
nickrudmarcel_ well, on my hp940, yes, they were a lot slower, but better print quality06:48
ChrisxxI kept hearing it repeatedly but didn't know what was meant by it06:48
spartacushi. how do i use my windows fonts in ubuntu?  to which folder am i supposed to copy them?06:48
spermie_411is there any way I can make the boot up quicker, and make the letters littler because there huge????06:48
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nomasteryodafrank, chmod 755 /home/username -R06:49
marcel_nickrud: How old is a 940?06:49
Madpilotspartacus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto06:49
ubotuMadpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:49
Frank_dotMarble2: vlc is the best player for .mkv and subtitles and everything06:49
hanasakiis gcc 4 available for ubuntu06:49
Madpilotubotu fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto06:49
ubotuokay, Madpilot06:49
spartacusspermie_411, you can remove what you do not need from startup.. man update-rc.d. and you need to set the vga mode to something different in your grub config06:49
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spartacusMadpilot, thanks :)06:50
nickrudmarcel_ well, I bought it in 2001 or 2, I think06:50
Marble2Frank_dot: I've tried VLC but I could never get my audio working, I'd rather just be able to play it in totem06:50
rekaMarble2: gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:50
Marble2reka: I already have that06:51
rekaMarble2: hmm, the package info says it has matroska decoding06:51
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frankmarble2: gst-register-0.8 ?06:51
Frank_dothanasaki: yes gcc 4 is in universe06:52
spartacusMadpilot, thanks. works now06:52
ChrisxxThanks guys, I think you just made linux my new OS for pretty much everything except for BattleField 206:52
spermie_411so i dont need update-rc.d ?06:52
Madpilotis there any way to get ubotu to list all the ! commands he knows? In private chat, obviously...06:52
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Marble2frank: couldn't find that package to install06:53
hanasakioh dam.. just found out.. gcc4 wont do kernel 2.11 sup w/ that. .i get compile errors!06:53
hanasakiback to 3.06:53
Frank_dotu-bot-u ...took me a long time to get that one!06:53
frankmarble2: its not a package its like an update thing06:53
frankmarble2: so just type gst-register-0.8 at the command line06:53
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Marble2it's not in the apt-get repositories...06:53
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Jogarigai just installed ubuntu on my powerbook but i haven't found a way to control the britness of the screen. anyone know?06:54
Marble2still nothing06:54
nickrudMarble2 you can find out what package gst-register-0.8 belongs to at packages.ubuntu.com06:54
Marble2i rna gst-register-0.8, but it still won't play06:54
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frankmarble2: do you have all of these (theyre just listed in the guide and yes theyre packages) w32codecs, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, lame, sox, ffmpeg, mjpegtools, vorbis-tools06:56
hanasakihmm isnt xorg supposed to do real tranparencies?06:56
MadpilotFrank_dot: ubotu is a very useful creature...06:56
Madpilot! good bot06:56
ubotuthanks madpilot :)06:56
nickrudooh, a good list frank06:56
frank! good bot06:56
frankwhoa thats cool06:56
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frank! bad bot06:57
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, frank06:57
Frank_dot! good bot06:57
ubotuthanks frank_dot :)06:57
frankbah it hates me06:58
nickrudno, the bot just knows it's worth :)06:58
IcemanV9is there a better way to put "xconsole" message on the desktop background without terminal??06:59
revalI was wondering if anyone knows the solution to even install a 32 bit application like cedega on a 64 bit ubuntu os06:59
Jogarigaanyone with ubuntu on a powerbook?06:59
Frank_dotreval: you need to install a chroot06:59
revalFrank_dot: how do I do that?06:59
frankbah i hate chroot06:59
Marble2frank: yes I do07:00
nickrudIcemanV9 as best I recall, there is now way with using nautilus, but there are some tools for kde or other wm's07:00
rekaJogariga: you mean those special buttons on your k/b?  search ubuntuforums.org for topics while you wait.07:00
Jogarigareka: ok07:00
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Chrisxxyou all were right, wanda the fish is funny07:00
nickrudheh, I've always thought chroot was the greatest thing unix had to offer07:00
pixelmonkeyI am able to browse Windows shares under xsmbrowser, but not with Nautilus.  What am I missing here?07:01
frankmarble2: solved your problem. sudo apt-get install libmatroska-dev07:01
rekaChrisxx: that'd be the backend program: fortune.  wanda's just a pretty face :)07:01
Marble2still got nothing :(07:01
Frank_dotreval: search the forums for how to setup a 32bit chroot...  but my advice is to simply install the i386 version of Ubuntu. That's what I did after a few months and all of the pain is gone07:02
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nickrudhanasaki I think xtransset is what you want for transparency, when I have a better machine I'll look into it myself07:03
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revalFrank_dot: 32 bit os's.. do they suffer any lackings under a 64 bit processor?07:03
frankmarble2: i thought you said the file was "matroska" codec or something07:03
Marble2it is07:03
Marble2.mkv file07:03
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Marble2i installed that, totem still errors07:03
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Frank_dotreval: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457507:03
supernixI was curious does the system send out emails ?07:04
Marble2it says it can't play "XviD format", however, I have played lots of .avi and other files encoded with XviD, and I only get this error playing .mkv files07:04
revalFrank_dot: do 32 bit programs run better in a chroot in 64 or just in a native 32?07:05
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Frank_dotreval: unless you do do heavy audio/video encoding you're probably not gonna see a difference. I don't see any. Apparently 32bit is 10-15% slower than the same program compiled in 64bit on average.07:05
revalFrank_dot: so even if the program is 32 bit, there's an improvement if you run it in 64 but under an emulator?07:06
nickrudsupernix some daemons do, and you may get some emails about installed packages07:06
revalFrank_dot: I'm all about performance, heh07:06
Frank_dotreval: no,07:06
Velcanis there a simple way to make mplayer disable the screensaver when a video is playing?07:06
Velcanor actually to disable all power management in general07:07
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supernixhmmm how can I recieve those system messages ?07:07
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firebird318I am having trouble installing my modem. I am at the point where it asks "Where is the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" I was in this chat room earlier and I was told to install the headers package which under the Synaptic Package Manager there are four different packages. I installed two "linux-headers-2.6.10-5 and linux-kernel-headers. This did not solve my problem so I tried installing the other two packa07:07
firebird318linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 and linux-headers-386. When I installed the last two it automatically entered the directory but it said that the kernel version defined does not match the currently running kernel. Can anyone help me with this problem?07:07
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nickrudsupernix they are sent to root; /etc/aliases can be set to send root mail to a particular user. I think the standard ubuntu install sets up root mail to be sent to the initial user.07:09
rekafirebird318: what does "uname -r" output?07:09
supernixoic ok and how do you retrieve those?07:09
firebird318I had those headers installed but it give that message I typed. It says they didn't match07:10
firebird318If I have the 2 packages with the 386 in the name installed, do I have to have the other 2 uninstalled07:11
nickrudsupernix If those mails have not made it into your initial user account, you will find them in either /var/mail/root, or /root07:11
supernixah ok ty07:11
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D1is anyone using NetworkManager in Breezy?07:13
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sizzamhey everyone07:13
Frank_dotis it possible to revert from Breezy to hoary/07:14
nickrudhi sizzam07:14
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nickrudFrank_dot supposedly, but I personally would do a fresh install07:14
sizzamthe nvidia drivers for my geforce 440 card work in the 2...10 i386 kernel, but won't work in the same k7 kernel07:14
Frank_dotnickrud: I haven't updated to breezy, I was just wondering if I could "try" it07:15
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concept10Anyone know where I can get someone to draw me a website logo for free?07:15
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nickrudFrank_dot I've dedicated a partition to breezy, so I can play freely07:15
rekaFrank_dot: be warned that it's still in development.07:15
Frank_dotI hadn't planned ahead for that07:15
nickrudplay being the operative word here07:15
Frank_dotreka: I know.07:16
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nickrudFrank_dot you may want to take a look at gparted; you may be able to free up enough space for a partition to run breezy on07:19
concept10jasoncohen, are you awake?07:19
Frank_dotnickrud: can it reseize partitions painlessly? without losing everything?07:19
capiFrank_dot, yes as long as you don't make them smaller then the files on the partition07:20
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supernixnickrud I see that I do have messages but not sure how to get them is it possible to retrieve them using Kmail ?07:20
nickrudFrank_dot that's the idea. I've never had to use it, since I've always made a bunch of small partitions to play around with07:20
nickrudsupernix yes, you point a new kmail account at the message files.07:21
concept10What do you guys use to play mp4 videos?  I get no sound from totem or mplayer07:21
Frank_dotnickrud: I'm starting to see why that's a good idea07:21
nickrudsupernix you can look at them with mutt -f <file> first, to see if it's worth it07:21
Frank_dotI always have a massive 130 GB partition and a few smaller ones07:21
Jogarigadoes anyone know if firefox 1.0.4 is available for ppc?07:22
capiFrank_dot, how many HDs is that?07:22
Frank_dotone HD of 160 GBs07:23
nickrudheh, I ran suse, redhat, lfs, debian, mandrake, and a few others while starting. I needed those partitions :)07:23
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Frank_dotI also have another 160GBs HD but its all ntfs right now07:24
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capiFrank_dot, ah, I was going to say it may be easier to run a stable harddrive and play with the other one as testing, but that doesn't work now, heh07:24
capi*hits backspace rapidly* It doesn't work. :(07:24
Frank_dotcapi: lol07:24
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Frank_dotcapi: Those damn electrons are just too fast! Damn you , Einstein!07:25
capiI was hoping my computer used Tachyons for the backspace key07:26
Frank_dotcapi: Lets not start a technobabble contest07:26
nickrudlol, please, tell me how :)07:27
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IcemanV9geez, Frank_dot, you must used 1% of 160G space for OS plus data07:27
IcemanV9and the rest of HD is waiting to be used :P07:28
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Frank_dot1.6 GB? a bit more07:28
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capihehe I was thinking the same thing about his HDs, At least he's not one of those people who use TiB harddrives... thats craziness07:29
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firebird318On Ubuntu, where does it get the root password from. Is the root password the same as the user password that you create during installation07:29
nickrudI have about 50GB on my drives, and I evny Frank_dot07:29
capifirebird318, yes I believe so.07:30
nickrudfirebird318 there is no actual root password, I'll pass a link07:30
crimsun!tell firebird318 about sudo07:30
ubotumethinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:30
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FLeiXiuSI enjoy my 400GB Maxtor :-D07:30
nickrudah, !tell :)07:30
ChrisxxHow can you only have 50gb....07:30
mebaran151what is the best way to start getting involved in the oss community07:30
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firebird318when I try to login under root, it always says invalid password or something to that effect07:30
mebaran151I know a little bit of C and little bit of ruby07:30
Chrisxx<_< I have 3 250 gig hdds07:30
frankfirebird318: its the same because ubuntu wasnt designed to let you have a session as root other than sudo or su07:30
mebaran151and enough perl to read stuff07:31
sizzamanyone know about problems with nvidia drivers on 2.6.10-5-ky?07:31
FLeiXiuSChrisxx: raid arrayed?07:31
sizzamky = k707:31
Chrisxxyes, 507:31
frankchrisxx: mirrored?07:31
firebird318in terminal when I type su root it asks for password so I type that and it always says sorry, authentication failure07:31
Hmmmmmmmhow do i dual boot ubuntu and windows XP?07:31
crimsunHmmmmmmm: presuming you install Ubuntu after Windows XP, grub takes care of that07:31
frankchrisxx: if theyre striped doesnt that mean you lose everything if one goes down, and how can you fill that much mem?07:32
nickrudvideo, how else?07:32
ChrisxxHmmmmmmm: install XP then install ubuntu, grub should detect it07:32
Hmmmmmmmdo i have to install ubuntu on a sperate partition?07:32
FLeiXiuSfrank: yes you will loose a lot if one fails...but thats not the point :-P07:32
Frank_dotsizzam: I use that combination and it seems to work ok07:32
crimsunHmmmmmmm: currently, yes07:32
IcemanV9raid is more safe then striped, i believe07:32
Chrisxxfrank: no, I still have about 66% memory keep, I can loose one hdd and still have the data stored on the others07:32
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Hmmmmmmmis grub found on the cd or do i have to download it?07:33
Chrisxxit should be put onto your Master boot record on install07:33
IcemanV9grub is installed automatically during the installation07:33
nickrudHmmmmmmm the ubuntu install is pretty smart, it will work transparently07:33
parkbenchi have two questions about GNOME environ07:33
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Hmmmmmmmso i just pop in the cd and go?07:33
parkbenchone is, it seems to be awfully slow in loading windows and stuff, even non-internet things07:33
ChrisxxPretty much07:33
Frank_dotsizzam: Maybe you have to get the restricted modules package for k7 as well07:34
parkbenchlike windows with many effects on07:34
Chrisxxjust make sure you know how you want your hdd partitioned07:34
crimsunsizzam: did you install linux-k7 ?07:34
parkbenchand, it seems my resolution is messed up some how: when i maximize things, the very last part on the right gets cut off, so i cant scroll or click x07:34
spermie_411how DO i turn up my refresh reat on ubuntu, its not letting me =/07:34
nickrudparkbench that's a pretty vague description, can you be more explicit about what's slow07:34
sizzami started off with the i386 kernel07:34
sizzamthat what im using now07:34
rekaHmmmmmmm: do you have a partition set up already?07:34
spermie_411how DO i turn up my refresh rate on ubuntu, its not letting me =/07:34
sizzamnvidia works fine07:34
sizzambut when i boot into the k7 kernel, x wont start07:35
sizzamif i change xorg.conf to use nv instead of nvidia, it loads07:35
Chrisxxspermie_411: System > Preferences > screen resolution07:35
nickrudparkbench you may need to use the monitor controls to get the screen resized right relative to the windows version of the monitor07:35
Hmmmmmmmyes i have 3 partitions07:35
crimsunsizzam: did you install linux-k7?07:35
Chrisxxspermie_411: you can change refresh rate in there07:35
rekaspermie_411: afaik, it will select the highest rate available for that res that is safe for your monitor07:35
Hmmmmmmm1 currently has nothing on it07:35
sizzamcrimsun:  no, i'll grab that07:35
rekaHmmmmmmm: good to go then :)07:35
parkbenchnickrud: it seems nearly every application or window or action in ubuntu right now is slow--and i just restarted a little whilea go; it's not just internet pages or anything, it seems to take a while to load the look adn feel of each window07:35
spermie_411actually im using kubuntu sorry i forgot 0=(07:36
Hmmmmmmmi dont know what version i have but its the one with the picture of 3 people, one girl is wearing orange; anyways can i install this version and patch it to the latest version?07:36
frankchrisxx, reka: i've had that problem before and it would only let me go up to 1024 on a 1280 monitor07:36
parkbenchkubuntu seems very interesting07:36
parkbenchoh well much too late -_-07:36
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frankso dont trust that settings program07:36
sizzamcrimsun:  anything else i should grab before i reboot?07:36
Chrisxxfrank: I don't have the problem with Ubuntu, its only with Debian07:36
rekaHmmmmmmm: what version does it say on the packaging?07:36
crimsunsizzam: do you plan to compile any kernel modules?07:36
Chrisxxfrank: and knoppix07:37
reka!tell frank about fixres07:37
sizzammaybe, grab headers/source?07:37
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crimsunsizzam: linux-headers-k707:37
Hmmmmmmmwhere do i look?07:37
sizzamcrimsun:  thanks a ton07:37
Frank_dotwhere can you see what ubotu knows about?07:37
sizzamtesting now07:37
Hmmmmmmmoh 4.1007:37
crimsunthat's Warty, Hmmmmmmm07:37
D1is anyone using NetworkManager in Breezy with sucess?07:38
spermie_411it will only let me do 60hz on 1024x768??/07:38
Hmmmmmmmso its possilbe to install that then patch it up to 5.04?07:38
spermie_411thats horrible07:38
crimsunHmmmmmmm: yes07:38
rekafrank: btw, what you're talking 'bout is resolution, not refresh rates.07:38
nickrudHmmmmmmm absolutely07:38
Hmmmmmmmthanks guys07:38
rekai think...07:38
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rekaspermie_411: your monitor rates were probably detected wrong...post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic please07:39
pagefaulthas anyone had any success getting hibernation to work in hoary?07:40
pagefaulton their laptop that is07:40
crimsunit works fine on my t4107:40
pagefaultI am having some problems on my dell 600m it shuts down properly but when it boots back up the graphics are corrupt and the system locks up07:41
hyphenatedI haven't attempted it on my dell 600007:41
IcemanV9doesn't work on hp ze5185 or n815407:41
trog_can't get hibernation on a dell i800007:41
pagefaultah ok07:42
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pagefaultI just wanted to be sure it wasn't just me :)07:42
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firebird318I am still trying to install my modem, it no longer tells me that the versions don't match, it just tells me ERROR: Module re-compilation and installation failed! It has always told me that and now when I look at the log file that is created, there are a few errors at the end of the file. They are osmemory.c:219: error: called object is not a function        osmemory.c:219: error: syntax error before string constant make[1]  : *** [osme07:42
firebird3181 and make: *** [osspec]  Error 2. How can I fix these errors? Can anyone help?07:42
IcemanV9guess hibernation needs some kinks to iron out07:42
sizzamcrimsun:  that fixed it,  you rock07:42
pagefaultit's extremely slow too07:43
pagefaultalmost as fast doing a cold boot07:43
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sizzammy glxgears framerates have gone from about 100 in i386 to 3000's in k707:43
spermie_411reka: what did you wabt me to post?07:43
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crimsunsizzam: actually Frank_dot suggested it first.07:44
Chrisxxis there any better aim client than gAIM?07:44
sizzamoh, i missed that07:44
spermie_411Section "Monitor"07:44
spermie_411Identifier"Generic Monitor"07:44
Chrisxxits really BIG07:44
sizzamFrank_dot:  thank you07:44
spermie_411that part?07:44
Razor-Xanyone here use zsh?07:44
rekaspermie_411: to a paste bin please07:45
rekabut yes07:45
lowellhi can I join07:45
Razor-XChrisxx: that's your choice, really07:45
Razor-Xlowell: of course07:45
rekaspermie_411: now do this: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange07:45
Razor-XChrisxx: depends on the features you're looking for07:45
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spermie_411N00b<! dont understand what u mean by paste bin07:45
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Chrisxxsomething like trillian07:45
ubotuhmm... paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""07:45
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Razor-XChrisxx: again, it depends07:46
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Razor-XI prefer the CLI interface, and I do stuff in there07:46
spermie_411i cant copy and paste it all in here