=== apokaway is now known as apokryphos [12:03] try typing "I can't play mp3s" ubuntu [12:03] in google [12:04] dammit [12:04] can you get to the first link? [12:04] sure [12:04] I can;t === spermie_411 [~spermie_4@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:05] its down === _user_ [~user@pool-70-106-61-223.hag.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:05] i need some help i got the cedega.tgz file on my desktop but im not sure how to install it? [12:06] google it [12:06] thats there answer for everthing === aseigo [~aseigo@aseigo.kde] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] =( [12:06] google isnt good at explaining [12:07] just finding [12:07] um yeah it is [12:07] ask your question in quotes. its great [12:07] Quotes for a phrase search [12:07] very handy [12:08] ok [12:08] all the link pertatianing to mp3 in ubuntu [12:08] are down [12:08] "I can't play mp3s" ubuntu [12:08] so please [12:08] guide me === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] jeanluc: have you tried playing mp3s in other mp3 players? [12:08] yes [12:08] bmp [12:08] and they all don't work? [12:08] xmms [12:08] yes [12:08] none [12:09] but .wav [12:09] for bmp you need gstreamer0.8-mad I believe [12:09] and stuff do [12:09] did you install that first? [12:09] I dloaded gstreamer [12:09] mad [12:09] type sudo alsamixer... can you just verify that Main and PCM are up [12:10] ya [12:10] there up [12:10] in green [12:10] And if you're not getting mp3 player output then it's not really a #kubuntu issue [12:10] im in #kubuntu [12:10] exactly [12:11] so what [12:11] If it's not working in others too, you're likely to have more luck in #ubuntu [12:11] #ubuntu [12:14] jeanluc, as i told you earlier, its because you probably have the output set to the wrong plugin, and arts is blocking access to the sound card [12:14] either setup arts as the output plugin for your media player(s), or configure dmix, the choice is yours [12:14] nikkia: wouldn't it refuse to play at all, rather than give no sound output in that case? [12:15] apokryphos: no, i've seen it do both [12:15] Seems odd that he can play other audio types... [12:15] I can play mp3 [12:15] just no sound [12:15] no errors [12:15] but no sound [12:15] you did unmute in alsaconf right? [12:16] how do you do that [12:16] actually if you can hear sound in other apps that probably isn't it [12:16] ok in beep [12:16] its says out put plugin is also 0.9.7 [12:16] alsa* [12:17] jeanluc, try 'artsplay some_mp3_file.mp3' from the command line, where 'some_mp3_file.mp3' is the filename for a mp3 file in the directory you're in [12:18] anyone in here use cedega?? [12:18] yeah === _user_ is now known as rabbit [12:19] you have the .deb file for cedega? [12:19] no they have an autopackage or something [12:19] ahh [12:19] but you have to subscribe... I get it now ;) [12:20] nothing happens === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-100-120.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] cheap <~~ trade ya something for it ;-) [12:21] I have tried mp3's in every media player and installed gstreamer mad but no mp3s is working but .wav works so can some one help me play mp3 === apokryphos wonders if attempting to make debs gets easier [12:22] it really agrevates me, wtf are we still walking newbies thru the same sound configuration nightmare that we had to walk them thru in 2000 ? [12:22] jeanluc: evidently people have tried to help you; evidently, this isn't really the channel for it anyhow [12:22] why can't alsa enable dmix if it detects that the sound hw doesn't support multi-client ? [12:22] nikkia: I critisize the process, and yet it's so irresistable :P [12:23] Makes me almost like Windoze [12:23] so little hw supports multi-client anyway, just enable dmix, and let people turn it off, ffs [12:24] apokryphos: lets not even get on the 'support mixed sample rates when they clearly don't work' issue :P [12:25] i thought the whole point of alsa was 'OSS is broken, lets do something that works' not 'lets recreate the nightmare with a different twist' [12:26] the poor sound guys get critisized a lot, poor fellows. Suffice it to say the guys at aRts must have got a lot of grief [12:26] apokryphos: i question the whole point of 'sound servers' anyway [12:26] they just annoy people, and get in the way [12:27] ya [12:27] it really annoys me [12:27] only thing I miss from windows [12:27] (yes, i know, arts does far more than just interface to the sound hardware, but still, do we need it as 'a sound server' ? [12:27] is mp3 [12:28] well [12:28] I can always resort to using [12:28] nikkia: isn't it still officially undeveloped now? [12:28] an [12:28] eek [12:28] stereo [12:28] apokryphos: arts? i don't think so [12:28] Only thing I miss from Windoze is... viruses [12:28] I miss mp3 [12:28] nikkia: yes, such a thing tends to be needed [12:29] aseigo: based on what? [12:29] nikkia: we need codecs to decode media, we need a way to mix audio on the fly both locally and remotely [12:29] nikkia: hm, maybe it was just the original author of it [12:29] aseigo: no, mixing on the fly should be the domain of the sound drivers [12:30] ok well im out for a while [12:30] nikkia: *cough*portability*cough* [12:30] tty and thanks for help [12:30] aseigo: as for decoding media and handling local and remote audio, nothing there demands something that blocks all other audio access [12:30] nikkia: as soon as there is a single driver spec that does that across the domain of OSes we support, hell ya! [12:30] nikkia: that still leaves us with codecs and such things [12:31] if your card supports hardware mixing, the audioserver shouldn't block [12:31] if your card doesn't support hardware mixing, you need the software to do it [12:31] aseigo: maybe you missed when i said 'hardly any (consumer) hw supports multi-card (at the hardware level)' [12:32] right.. which is why we have sound servers ... [12:32] aseigo: which end up blocking, because there are 300 different audio access methods in use [12:32] which is why in kde4 we're going to pick one that's in use by more than just us [12:32] that was, actually, the hope with arts except the rest of the world is full of NIH [12:32] i run a gtk/gnome app, oh sorry, arts is blocking esd, i run a non-gnome/non-kde app, oh, sorry arts is blocking alsa/oss and so on [12:33] remember back when we DIDN'T have sound servers as the status quo? [12:33] aseigo: you mean the OSS days? OSS was broken from day 1 [12:33] and to have sound come from cdp you had to QUIT xmms? [12:33] heck, it was broken on sunos where /dev/dsp was stolen from :) [12:33] nikkia:re: the arts blocking ... two things: for now there is artsdsp [12:34] second: i'm sure you caught the bit where i said we're attempting to address this in kde4? [12:34] aseigo: i've never gotten anything but broken up spluttery audio out of artsdsp [12:34] that's unfortunate [12:34] and java especially doesn't like being wrapped [12:35] no matter if you use artsdsp or aoss, the CPU usage pegs at max [12:35] how fast is your cpu? [12:35] 2.8GHz [12:35] heh.. ok, that's wildly wrong [12:37] pretty interesting article: http://www.arts-project.org/doc/arts-maintenance.html [12:37] btw, i hope to god when you say 'address it in kde4' you don't mean 'use JACK' [12:37] no, because jack doesn't do what we need === aseigo ponders just how silly nikkia thinks we are =) [12:37] yeah, it also doesn't work without using the artsd output plugin here :/ [12:39] hi, kde4 will use gstreamer, no? [12:39] I'm courious about that :) [12:39] it might [12:39] gstreamer and nmm seem to be the two most likely contenders at this point [12:40] either way, it will just be the "default" engine [12:40] is aRts developed at the moment? [12:40] most applications will simply use the kde audio classes for doing the basics which will then feed into a given back end [12:40] Yeah, the flexible kde-way :) [12:40] apokryphos: no [12:40] which will allow us to have a recommended configuration, but also allow people to swap things out easily if they need/want to [12:41] including us ;) [12:41] so how do you like kubuntu aseigo? Been using it long? :) [12:41] aseigo: sudo is the way to go, remember ;-) [12:41] haha. oh god not that conversation again! ;) [12:41] um.. i've been using it for a couple months i guess === apokryphos feels the urgency to point out another Microsoft classic: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/checkos.mspx [12:42] not long. === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2F74E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] i'm still using suse as my primary desktop .. kubuntu is for a work project really [12:42] I like gstreamer, It'll make easier the distribution without pripietary-codecs and the instalation to the users [12:42] oooh.. we should alias kde-config --version to winver ;) [12:43] Note: These instructions do not apply to Apple Macintosh computers [12:43] aseigo: surely the problem is going to be that with kde4 we'll have the requirement for the NEW sound server running, plus artsd for those kde3 apps that haven't been updated, plus esd for those gnome apps we occasionally use, plus alsa configured with dmix and oss compatibility for those obscure apps like java and such that won't talk to anything less than 15 years old? [12:43] I wonder if it works on Linux... [12:43] nikkia are you familiar with printing problems? [12:43] Suse is the main distro between kde deloppers finally :/ [12:43] othernoob: not really [12:44] no idea what the traffic is really like, but it seems to me like people are straying from SuSE [12:44] nikkia: so we shouldn't move forward and fix things because the old way is broken? [12:44] nikkia: or are you just pissy about audio === apokryphos thinks Linus doesn't use it anymore [12:44] aseigo: well, it just seems like each time, it gets worse [12:45] nikkia: so let me ask you then. what would be a good and realistic solution. [12:45] what is the best sound server? [12:45] avoid a sound server period. [12:45] McScruff: which ever one we pick in kde4 ;) [12:45] crimsun: you must've skipped over the "realistic" bit [12:45] alsa has a library-level dmix hack. [12:45] aseigo: if things are to be fixed, they should be fixed *system wide* not in a tiny corner of the system at a time [12:45] McScruff: a multi-channel soundcard ? [12:46] i have a b/w laser printer and a pdf with a tiny little bit of colour in it. and it won't print it :/ [12:46] nikkia: i'll explain it again for you: [12:46] it prints everything else just fine [12:46] aseigo: so did gstreamer, arts, nas, and polypaudio. [12:46] by having a kde audio layer, the majority of kde apps won't care what's under it [12:46] by providing a recommened audio engine that we pick from the current stable of worthy, actively developed audio systems out there today we begin to see the way forward to creating a standard [12:47] dmix do the sound mix? I think it only works by hardware mix, no? [12:47] fromoze: dmix doesn't care about the hardware. [12:47] crimsun: what's your point exactly? we cant rely on alsa, if that's your thought [12:47] fromoze: no, dmix is software mixing, its for when you don't have hardware mixing [12:47] aseigo: there is no adequate solution. === aseigo says something about codecs again [12:48] crimsun: again, you're missing the "realistic" bit [12:48] crimsun: since we can't ship a silent kde, we have to find something that is as good as possible [12:48] I try to use dmix on a integrated soundcard and It doesn't works... well, it was on year 2003 XD [12:48] aseigo: and what, praytell, is that? that automatically rules out esound, arts, nas, and polypaudio. === apokryphos is more hopeful of improvements in Konqueror, and use of space etc. [12:49] i know a lot of people are pissy about audio (despite arts haven gotten fairly decent at the end here), but it gets a bit tiresome to hear the goth-teenager attitude "it all sucks. why bother." [12:49] aseigo: I do alsa. I know it sucks. Tell me what's better. [12:49] crimsun: woah! and that list didn't include EITHER of the ones i mentioned earlier! imagine that! [12:49] aseigo: you think i'm a goth teenager? i'm impressed [12:50] (for that matter, I'm not a goth teenager either ;) [12:50] nikkia: no, it's just the sad depressive attitude that doesn't lead to solutions =) [12:50] aseigo, no, the attitude that doesn't lead to solutions is 'we'll fix it in our project, rest of the software universe be damned', which is what has happened every other time [12:50] nikkia: the "if we fix it, it'll suck for all the old apps" concept is a good example of that. [12:51] nikkia: if we can't win in your mind, well, that's unfortunate. the best we can do is to avoid the same mistakes in the future and provide a better experience then [12:51] nikkia: you really aren't reading what i'm writing at all are you? [12:51] asegio, it needs to be fixed at the system-wide level, it needs the co-operation of the alsa people, the freebsd people, etc etc [12:51] nikkia: i've explained it twice now. [12:51] The problem about mixing for me is that now a soundcard with multi-channel is really expensive (>80). I really love my old soundblaster live! nowdays, most of the soundcards are f** win-soundcards :( [12:51] well fine, when they get their act together, what a frabjous day it will be [12:52] and then we'll just have to get the hardware people on board and then we only have codecs and network trasnparency to deal with! [12:52] um, there isn't very much push from the non-Linux side for ALSA, I'm afraid. [12:52] of course not [12:52] so... REALISTICALLY we need/want something that: provides codecs, mixing and network trans of some sort and that is portable [12:53] we could bitch and moan about it, but that won't bring linux and bsd closer together.. [12:53] hell, it won't even get the linux audio up to where we need it to be =) [12:53] I'm not arguing to bring Linux and *BSD closer. [12:53] aseigo: i fail to see why all those have to be in one package [12:54] our job is to get a desktop evnironment out that allows you to play sound [12:54] nikkia: they don't, but the total solution needs to cover those bases [12:54] frankly, that's overextending imo [12:54] overextending? === wdsl [~wdsl@p549BB2AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] heh [12:55] network sound is a great _idea_ [12:55] which part is overextending exactly? [12:55] and used in thin client computing. [12:55] and NMM has shown it to be pretty doable [12:55] hi I'm not able to play mp3's with mpg123 or mpg321 what mistake I do? [12:56] and NMM layers on what? [12:56] (I'm not arguing; I'm interested) [12:57] Hi, [12:57] crimsun: on top of whatever the underlying OS provides [12:57] tommy: I presume you're using arts in a default Kubuntu? [12:57] exactly [12:58] hrm. their web server seems to be down atm [12:58] tommy: you could use artsdsp if I remember correctly [12:59] artsdsp mpg123 ... [12:59] there's a version of mpg123 out there that can output directly to arts [12:59] or simply set the timeout-and-release to a shorter idle period [12:59] i doubt its packaged tho [01:00] I don't think is audio mistake...it says "no such file or directory" :=( [01:00] aseigo: I presume you mean the one based in Saarland? [01:02] do anyone know kanotix and the radeon-installer.sh? is there a simialar thing in ubuntu? [01:03] I go with shell in the directory of files... === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.37.140.184.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu === aseigo heads to the coffee shop to do a little hacking === wdsl [~wdsl@p549BB2AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.37.140.184.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] Once I read about a blogger cliente on kontact, but I can't find moer info about on the net. Some one has info about? === jeanluc [~jeanluc@c-24-1-91-167.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] w00t w00t === FractuS [~FractuS@cable200-58-222-64.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS hi everybody [01:20] this is only in english? [01:20] hi fractus. yes, this channel is english. [01:22] would anyone happen to know how to print coloured pdfs in black/white? [01:22] there's kubuntu-es if you prefer spanish :) [01:22] fromoze: thats rigth thnks [01:24] othernoob: yo want no colors? [01:25] FractuS: yes [01:27] othernoob: well in the postscript driver conf you change to print in gray scale === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.37.140.184.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] FractuS: where do i find that? [01:28] othernoob: humm ex: in the print dialog (any app) you click on advanced or properties of printer. then choose te option [01:29] FractuS: i don't find that option in kpdf === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.231.75] has joined #kubuntu === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.37.140.184.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu === _ubuntu [~ubuntu@p54809F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] <_ubuntu> muh === _ubuntu is now known as IchIchIch === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === wdsl [~wdsl@p549BB2AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] did anyone know where i can get my kernel sources? === cafuego [~cafuego@macchiato.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] wdsl: linux-source-2.6.10 === cafuego [~cafuego@macchiato.cc.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [01:39] a thx === km92 [~kevin@p549686DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #Kubuntu [01:46] othernoob: waith [01:49] yes? [01:53] othernoob: :S sorry i'm no have that app- simply find a printer controler (spool controler) and find the options === The_bellman [~rjs@dsl.shannon.id.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] FractuS: do you know how to print with xpdf using cups? [01:56] othernoob: it uses lpr backend uh!.. it sends the buffer direct to printer :S === chris12349 [~chris@82.35.233.64.transedge.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:57] shouldn't it be possible to use cups as well? [01:59] cups = Common Unix Printer Server === ep [~ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] i know [02:00] humm if cups is not runnig you dont print any file [sorry by my english] === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] othernoob: remove the colour cartigre [02:04] ;) [02:04] FractuS: it's a b/w laser printer [02:05] An app I want depends on libcurl3(>= 7.13.0-1) and libcurl3-dev(>= 7.13.0-1). Is this package available for kubuntu? [02:06] sorry find logs in email lists [02:07] ep: you try to know wath's the main package that content it next download and install it === liz4rd_ [~liz4rd@static24-72-77-57.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] FractuS, I don't understand that sentence. What is "wath's" === jatc [~jatc@121.Red-81-34-29.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@ALamentin-103-1-4-46.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] ep: find the main package that contents libcurl3 and libcurl3-dev .. try in http://rpmfind.net next find a .deb version [02:12] ok I'll see what i can do, thanks [02:14] todo bien === jwright [~jwright@ont-cust-208.57.92.201.mpowercom.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jwright [~jwright@ont-cust-208.57.92.201.mpowercom.net] has joined #kubuntu === webmind [~webmind@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] this chann do not move :S === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS is away: Salgo por un rato, ahora regreso [02:39] what do you need to compile amsn [02:39] it's in synaptic... why compile it? [02:39] newer version? [02:40] i want the cvs [02:40] has webcam :) [02:40] :) [02:40] sudo apt-get build-dep amsn === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] that command pulls in all dependencies needed for compilation :) [02:40] oooo [02:40] looks like 38, 6.8 MB === ubuntu [~ubuntu@user-12lcqn5.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === PenguinBoy [~thepengui@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k sighs happily [02:44] Ubuntu pwns so hard [02:44] am trying to fix this Windows box [02:44] and I can't even reinstall Windows, it's so messed up [02:44] hey hey hey geeks, nerds, and Linux gurus [02:44] but a Warty LiveCD boots quite happily === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ralf [~matteo@openjlab.org] has left #kubuntu ["rAvE] === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === FractuS is away: Salgo por un rato, ahora regreso === FractuS is back (gone 00:00:03) === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-222.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [03:02] http://support.invisionfree.com/index.php?showtopic=99064&st=15&#entry2220256 [03:02] bah, wrong channel === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _nikkia [~nikki@3ffe:80ee:33e6:1:202:2dff:fe8b:59b2] has joined #kubuntu === lukgan [~lukgan@adsl-84-226-198-155.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu [03:15] argh. kpdf is broken after upgrading to 3.4.1 === Nakkel^ [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:15] doesn't show any text, just occasional symbols [03:15] download Acrobat Reader 7.0 [03:16] for amd64? [03:16] it wasn't broken until the last upgrade === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@200.106.9.98] has joined #kubuntu === aseigo [~aseigo@aseigo.kde] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] :O dont worry, you download the tgz and then you $sudo alien acroread-7***** it's all [03:18] for amd64. how nice that they make it for amd64 [03:18] because last time i used the 32 bit reader, it simply crashed immediately === kal [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] guess i'll ask on #kde [03:18] sproingie: your kernel runs ok? === kal is now known as kalenedrael [03:19] this is not helping the kpdf situation [03:19] reinstall kpdf? I've never had an issue :/ === thomas [~koko@202.6.224.178] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] is there a newer version in Breezy? John could backport it for you; he has an AMD64 [03:20] jeje.. sure.. erase dir $HOME./kde/apps/config/kpdf <- i'not complety sure that directory [03:20] any body here [03:20] yes, 64 of us [03:20] well, 63. One's a bot. [03:21] :D [03:21] guy's how to lock control center ? [03:21] any software out of there ? [03:22] if you erase the first conf of that app and it does not solve your problem propably you need to recompile it! :D [03:22] thomas: kontrolcenter? [03:22] lock it? you have to use your password to change things in it anyways... [03:23] ? [03:23] ok seth_, and hot to prefent user from change wallpaper ? [03:24] umount: /Storage: device is busy - how can i unbusy it [03:24] have searching on kde.org and nothing found [03:25] HELP [03:25] HELP [03:25] I still can't get any answers on how to play Midi files I tried Kmid and that was a no go [03:25] McScruff: end any programs using it [03:26] ii dont know what is [03:26] I installed Timidity and that is command line driven [03:26] thomas: you are trying to make some sort of kiosk? [03:26] thomas: http://jriddell.org/programs/kiosk-article.html [03:27] supernix: probably your sound card needs a other module run in the kernel <- i'm not sure [03:27] how do i format a hdd [03:28] seth_k: kiosk ROCKS [03:28] aseigo: word, hence I promote it [03:29] seth_k: i'm actually doing a workshop on it at akademy this year; did one here in calgary a couple weeks ago [03:29] seth_k: never fails to blow people away =) [03:29] haha, excellent [03:30] seth_k: where abouts are you locatd? === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.10] has joined #kubuntu [03:31] aseigo: Missouri, USA [03:32] me: Pereira, Colombia [03:32] much open source happening in your areas? [03:32] and, just because i have a particular interest in it, KDE? [03:32] KDE is my interest too [03:33] but not terribly much so, no :( [03:33] blowing away kpdf settings and reinstalling kpdf didnt help [03:33] am looking into starting a LUG at my uni [03:33] and have been handing out Ubuntu CDs like mad ;) [03:33] sproingie: what are you hoping to accomplish? [03:33] seth_k: nice [03:33] his kpdk keeps crashing [03:33] sproingie: backtrace? [03:33] s/kpdk/kpdf [03:33] it doesn't crash [03:34] it just doesn't display most of the doc [03:34] blank space where text should be [03:34] oh right [03:34] oh ... that's not good =/ [03:34] (to state the bleeding obvious) [03:34] kghostview renders it fine [03:34] but i can't search in it [03:34] sproingie: is this a pdf or a ps file? [03:35] aseigo: pdf [03:35] sproingie: is it a publicly available pdf, that i could test? [03:35] hey acroread actually works on my system now, so there's a possibility [03:35] aseigo: sure, lemme find the filename [03:35] sproingie: great =) [03:35] 25366616.pdf google for it [03:35] it's an intel reference manual [03:37] how can i format a storage hdd === IceDC571 [~chris@c-24-4-87-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:37] ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/manuals/25366616.pdf [03:37] sproingie: me compile them on mi machine v7.0 last version and works OK [03:38] 537 / 640 MB [03:38] come to me, hoary liveCD [03:38] i got the printed discs :) [03:38] live and install ones [03:38] ooo [03:39] :( mine haven't come yet [03:39] dunno why [03:39] seems like everyone else's have :P [03:39] sproingie: well, it works here with svn trunk =) [03:40] is kynaptic based on apt-get or aptitude? [03:40] i took it off someone who came into college with a load [03:40] they're all based off the apt libraries [03:40] IceDC571: synaptic [03:40] aseigo: *sigh* ... maybe if i run kpdf from commandline i'll get interesting output [03:40] IceDC571: and it uses apt-get in the back end [03:41] hmm.. does kynaptic offer any purge-like options? [03:41] what tool cn i use to format this fuckin fat32 hdd [03:41] lot of lines like this: [03:41] couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!! [03:41] MCCPicky: mkfs [03:41] though i get that on a lot of apps, and it's usually harmless [03:41] McScruff: qparted [03:41] or is it qtparted? === FractuS bye people [03:41] FractuS: see ya [03:42] bye FractuS [03:42] ;) === FractuS [~FractuS@cable200-58-222-64.epm.net.co] has left #kubuntu ["exitos"] [03:42] ty [03:43] the print preview in kpdf works fine tho [03:43] looks like print preview == kghostview [03:43] does anyone ever try 'sudo kate filename' in the terminal? it always crashes for me. is there something else i should use? === IceDC571 is new to kde.. just switched from gnome [03:44] IceDC571: kdesu [03:44] IceDC571: in fact.. do this: [03:44] yeah, I actually bugreported that back in the day. Turns out KDE apps aren't to be used with sudo [03:44] so kdesu is your friend [03:45] IceDC571: alt+f2 (brings up the run dialog), kate filename, alt+o (for options), alt-u (for run as different user) throw in the password, hit enter === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-77-57.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] IceDC571: tres nice [03:45] hmm.. i never heard of kdesu [03:45] !info kdesu [03:45] IceDC571: and if you do that a lot, you can make an entry on your panel or the desktop for that [03:45]