=== ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0153.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jp [~jp@200-126-82-76.bk6-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Robinho_Peixoto [1000@201.32.207.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont__ larts daniels [12:09] xresprobe on ia64/hoary is busticated - X asked me a question. === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-38.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:22] oo.o even runs... woot === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jp [~jp@200-126-82-76.bk6-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] hrm... ia64 hotplug seems to not like the hoary-security kernel very much === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lsuactiafner [~noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p141.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dato_ [~adeodato@84-120-66-144.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus_ [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus_ [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === dato [~adeodato@dato.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] mako: ping === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [~terrex@84-122-80-126.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:28] oh my god [02:28] xkeyboard-config has its own XML parser in Perl [02:28] Hmm. [02:28] wtf [02:28] thanks guys [02:28] We totally need an ubuntu-crack mailinglist. [02:28] we needed another one of those [02:28] Where people can just post "Cool Shit." [02:29] "omg wobbly windows, w00t", etc. [02:30] Basically I find searching for crack to be frought with frustration. [02:30] yet you have to have XML::Parser installed ANYWAY because of intltool [02:30] so much hate === _xhaker [~xhaker@213.201.220.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:32] also, they hardcode prefix=/usr into their configure.in, and it also has this gem: [02:32] --enable-xkbcomp-symlink create xkbcomp symlink to $(xkb_base)../../../bin/xkbcomp [02:32] it creates that symlink no matter what you do, and that breaks horribly when xkb_base isn't /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb [02:32] but it's OK [02:32] i didn't care about having anything actually work anyway === daniels ruminates on --enable-xkbcomp-symlink=no. [02:33] daniels: nice philosophy [02:33] lol === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _xhaker is now known as xhaker === daniels removes xlibs, giggles. === luis_ [~louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] daniels: ? === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] luis_: YES, MASTER [02:50] luis_: (be warned, rhythmbox shuffle put on some mind-blowing drum n bass way too early in the morning, so I'm kind of in a stupid mood) [02:50] haha [02:50] also I'm kind of high on removing shit from xorg [02:51] current libxv dev packages don't seem to have .h files- known? [02:51] xbase-clients? NOT ANY MORE [02:51] luis_: yeah, waiting on some NEW action [02:51] i think [02:51] OK, cool [02:51] just wanted to make sure it was knonw === luis_ has a gstreamer build that is FREAKING OUT, MAN [02:52] *cough* [02:52] daniels@brainfreeze:~/canonical/xorg/monolith/xorg-6.8.2/debian% (dpkg-deb -c ~/canonical/xorg/proto/x11proto-video/x11proto-video-dev_2.2+cvs.20050712-1_all.deb && dpkg-deb -c ~/canonical/xorg/lib/libxv/libxv-dev_2.2.0+cvs.20050712-1_amd64.deb) | grep usr/include/X11/extensions [02:52] drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2005-07-12 11:30:29 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/ [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 5478 2005-07-12 11:30:28 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/vldXvMC.h [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 3123 2005-07-12 11:30:28 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/Xv.h [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 3730 2005-07-12 11:30:28 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/XvMC.h [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 4981 2005-07-12 11:30:28 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/XvMCproto.h [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 13225 2005-07-12 11:30:28 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/Xvproto.h [02:52] drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2005-07-12 11:35:02 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/ [02:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 10301 2005-07-12 11:35:02 ./usr/include/X11/extensions/Xvlib.h [02:52] so when you get those two, you should be sweet [02:52] (and libxvmc-dev 1.something+cvs.20050712-1 has XvMClib.h) === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] cool thanks === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] "If I get one more email/bug report/flame from some idiot about how libaspell15c2 has broke their KDE or some shit because it conflicts with libaspell15, I might have to break more than just their KDE." === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:26] Amaranth: what's the problem? is some part of KDE using a pre c++ transition libapsell? [03:26] Riddell: No, it's a Debian developer. :) [03:27] just thought it'd get a chuckle seeing how ubuntu just went through all that [03:27] aah, yes, fun stuff === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === drow [drow@nevyn.them.org] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:43] KKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK [03:44] Keybuk: dude! [03:45] Keybuk: you told me dpkg had support for migrating conffiles :( === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaGrange [~Cauchy@p54BD08CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaGrange is now known as diarrhoe [03:57] I had a question [03:57] why dont dpkg have double click install feature? [03:57] I asked before but didnt get an answer [03:58] poningru: afaik it's just a mime issue [03:58] dpkg doesn't, but Kynaptic and Synaptic do [04:01] crimsun: what do you mean? [04:02] for that wouldnt you need synaptic to run always? [04:02] also Amaranth why not just fix that then? [04:02] poningru: I don't have context of your original question, so I have to address it in this vacuum. [04:02] why dont dpkg have double click install feature? [04:02] thats my original question [04:03] dpkg is a command line application. It would be rather disastrous to make it have a double-click install feature. [04:03] He wants double-click install, which imo is a security risk. === ahuman01 [~ahuman01@pool-151-197-40-157.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] this is probably not a #ubuntu-devel question [04:04] true [04:04] just ask for passsword [04:04] oh [04:04] where should I move it to? [04:04] and will you guys follow? [04:05] crimsun: I am talking about .deb files [04:05] I think [04:05] move this to #ubuntu, please === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dato [~adeodato@dato.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_london [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p5089C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] daniels: is xserver-xorg going to move the remaining files out of /usr/X11R6/bin ? [05:24] calc: when it gets modularised, yes [05:24] oh ok [05:25] so is the entire /usr/X11R6 going away after modularization or just most of it? === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@pcp05911023pcs.elztwn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@wlanconf-nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cartman [~cartman@cartman.developer.konversation] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:20] is there a problem with archives, xorg pack. still not moved to archives though it compiled fine for amd64 in last 3 uploads [06:20] it's stuck in NEW [06:20] daniels: sorry, that means? :/ [06:21] there are new binary packages which weren't in previous uploads [06:21] they need manual approval [06:21] ah :/ [06:21] I seem to miss XWrapper here and startx doesn't work once again, thought new upload would fix it [06:21] daniels: thanks for info === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:31] daniels: is the new X sitting in NEW? [06:31] morning [06:34] fabbione: binary NEW, yeah [06:34] and there are a bajillion source packages in source NEW [06:37] no wonder === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:43] jbailey: ping? === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jc_c [~jc@ALamentin-101-1-10-41.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [~slomo@p5487B9AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] uh oh [07:01] time for the backports guys to do stupid things with firefox and users to complain :/ [07:01] no offense to any backports guys who might be here [07:04] heh === pitti [~pitti@a130-233-4-163.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:15] Hi guys [07:15] hi pitti [07:16] Hi fabbione, how's life? [07:16] pitti: tired... i didn't sleep well in the last days. it's just too warm [07:16] fabbione: hehe, it's +30C here in the north... [07:17] yeah same here + or - [07:17] how is debconf going? [07:20] fabbione: pretty great, and pretty relaxed; much hacking, talking, and a full day trip to an island today [07:20] ah nice [07:20] have fun [07:20] thanks :-) === pitti hands fabbione an ice cube to prevent his melting [07:21] ehhe [07:21] pitti: do you know if elmo is coming around? [07:21] fabbione: he's here [07:21] fabbione: shall I poke him about anything? [07:22] fabbione: well, he's still asleep, though :-) [07:22] pitti : I don't suppose you could beg him to un-VAC for a few minutes to NEW all of the pending X stuff? [07:22] pitti: well if possible i need the new glibc on breezy chroot on concordia. they should be ale to fix the problem i have building the kernel [07:23] that too :) [07:23] infinity: Kamion isn't available either? [07:23] pitti: Kamion won' [07:23] pitti: Kamion won't be around for another bunch of hours [07:23] pitti : Kamion will be around at some point, I assu,e but not yet. [07:23] ok [07:23] s/assu,e/assume/ [07:23] I'll bug him, though, if elmo can't get to it. [07:23] alright, if I see him before we meet to start the trip, I ask him [07:23] fabbione's chroot request still stands though, since we only have one sysadmin right now. [07:24] does thom still have root? [07:24] pitti: can't you leave me a paper message right in front of his nose? [07:24] pitti: thom is at debconf as much as you are i think [07:24] pitti : If he does, he's not supposed to use it. [07:24] pitti : So, in effect, he doesn't. [07:24] alrigh [07:24] t [07:33] inotify is upstream! [07:36] wow [07:36] woo! === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:49] ?? === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:01] how is breezy coming === aigarius [~aigarius@a130-233-4-123.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] daniels: "migrating conffiles" ? are they going south for the winter ? [08:15] Keybuk: moving from xlibs -> xlibs-data [08:15] er [08:15] moving from xlibs -> xkeyboard-config [08:15] yes ? that's why dpkg doesn't remove conffiles [08:15] xkeyboard-config ... Replaces: xlibs [08:15] which helpfully prompts me for every single conffile [08:15] i'd like it to not prompt unless it's actually been changed [08:15] if you changed them, yes [08:16] unchanged [08:16] it's a bit broken, of course [08:16] i hacked around it by just nuking it in preinst/postinst in any case [08:16] hah :P [08:16] and keeping the xlibs package around === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] hmmm we are missing slang2 source from ubuntu === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK === pitti [~pitti@a130-233-5-92.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] fabbione: still no sign of elmo, sorry [08:50] pitti: ok thanks === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@gnulinuxer.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-164-08.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] hi === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:16] #ubuntu-mot [09:16] j #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks gives jsgotangco a / [09:16] yaahh sorry [09:17] i just finished rebuilding my laptop tee hee [09:17] jsgotangco: rebuilding hardware-wise or software-wise? [09:17] software-wise [09:18] im forced to dual-boot on this laptop due to my client running oracle [09:20] jsgotangco: dual-boot? what's wrong with an oracle-supported chroot (redhat or something I guess) [09:21] Treenaks, the client software (JInitiator) only runs on IE and Netscape atm [09:21] seeding the data requires me to have JInitiator [09:21] tee hee [09:21] yay [09:21] i should get an extra laptop just for that jeez [09:21] jsgotangco: vmware/qemu + windows then? [09:22] i would have gone that route if my machine was good [09:22] im saving for a new one though [09:27] fabbione: any chance we could get the trackpoint patch merged, but not autodetecting -- so you need to specify a boot option? [09:27] i'm really missing it [09:28] daniels: only weenies use mice & their substitutes [09:28] daniels: it's upstream already.. what do we need more? [09:28] Real Men use the keyboard [09:28] anyway i am off to bed. i am not feeling good today === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:30] fabbione: oh, is it? [09:30] fabbione: g'night dude, feel better === jsgotangco switches to his kb-based wm === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bradb-afk [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:36] bah. both of productplacement and intuneandontime are too long. [09:37] daniels: ? === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:39] Treenaks: machine names [09:40] daniels: ah [09:40] those can be too long? [09:40] having to type ssh intuneandontime can be a pain in the arse [09:40] brainfreeze is about as long as I'd like to get [09:40] i settled on ephemera (contraction of excessiveephemera) [09:40] daniels: thats what ssh tab completion is for === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] daniels: heh, dj shadow? [09:49] dilinger: sensing a pattern? :) [09:49] dilinger: i'm a bit of a shadow fanboy [09:49] i stumbled upon entroducing's deluxe edition a few weeks ago [09:49] good stuff [09:50] yeah, the mix from oxford is just too awesome [09:50] inotify merged into linus's kernel! [09:50] oh nice [09:51] http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0eeca28300df110bd6ed54b31193c83b87921443 [09:55] hello [09:55] will firefox 1.0.5 be included in hoary or will the changes be ported back to 1.0.2? [09:55] that second one [09:56] the security fixes will be backported [09:56] any other changes won't be [09:56] great [09:57] though perhaps firefox 1.0.5 will land in the newly established hoary-backports? [09:57] s/\?// [09:57] does that actually exist yet? [09:58] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-backports/ [09:58] whoa [09:59] <\sh> woot? [09:59] <\sh> since when [09:59] today [09:59] hmm [09:59] :) [09:59] did i miss another meeting or something? [09:59] i mean, i've missed a month of meetings... === mirak [~c0553202@ip-42.net-81-220-108.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] hi [10:02] I want to use gcc3.4.4 instead of gcc3.4.3 to build a cross compiler with toolchain-source. Is it possible ? [10:07] hey, hoary-backports already has things in it [10:07] dpkg and dselect?? [10:08] what ? [10:08] in fact I changed the symbolic links === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] but I got compile error at some point [10:09] mirak: Oh, I have no idea about that stuff. [10:09] there is almost no docs about this [10:12] <\sh> hmmm... === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-211.17.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] does anyone know why ubuntu's kernel takes _SO_ long to load compared to fedora's? [10:13] <\sh> anybody can have a look, why the binary packages of gfccore_2.3.1-2ubuntu1 are not in the archives? :) it's builded already...sources are on the servers === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] \sh: how long ago? [10:16] Amaranth: they were a test [10:16] \sh: they're in NEW [10:16] Kamion: ah [10:16] daniels: any particular order all this X stuff in NEW needs to be done? [10:16] Kamion: what's with ~hoary1? [10:16] Amaranth: elmo's test [10:16] Amaranth: I imagine/hope that'll be nuked before it goes public [10:16] ok [10:17] except i just announced it to the world... [10:17] fool :) [10:18] don't announce things just because there's some stuff visible in the archive ... [10:18] it's being worked on [10:18] i did for hoary-updates too :P === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:21] Kamion : daniels just headed off to come hang out with me. [10:21] Kamion : Just NEW the whole lot (please), and if his build-deps are wrong, I'll smack him around later (or upload fixes) [10:21] hmm, I wish I knew how to NEW stuff straight into universe === Kamion does it the awkward way [10:22] doesn't it just fall into universe if it's not in a certain seed? === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt20.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:23] Amaranth: not when I process NEW - haven't figured out why [10:24] Amaranth: also the relationship between seeds and main/universe is only semi-automatic === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-3-79.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:24] hmm, is this really the first time an hppa kernel has made it into the archive? === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-3-79.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] Amaranth: ;-) [10:26] dpkg was the test case which was run through the system === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] infinity,daniels: all these bazillion xserver-xorg-* were run past elmo, weren't they? [10:31] *cough*yes*cough* === mdeboer [~maarten@mtg62.upf.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] daniels: do all of xserver-xorg-* *really* need to Conflicts xserver-xorg (<< split) as well as Replaces? === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] daniels: seems to me that'll make upgrades a pig for no really good reason - Replaces alone would be fine? [10:36] Replaces alone would almost certainly be fine. I'll smack him when I see him in 1.5 hours. [10:36] (He's stuck on busses/trains for a while) [10:36] sure, I'm expecting stuff to queue up :) === SloMo_ [~slomo@vpn-imt21.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] daniels: DUDE [10:37] daniels: YOU FORGOT XSERVER-XORG'S DEPENDS LINE === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kamion only noticed after NEWing, sadly === mdz moans [10:38] Shall I halt it at the buildds? [10:38] Why do you notice this while I hear REMs "It's the end of the world as we know it" [10:38] infinity: might be a good idea === Amaranth remembers to not get -35 [10:39] Kamion : Source package? [10:39] infinity: xorg [10:39] Oh, yay. [10:40] Oh, wait. I can't halt it. You were NEWing binaries. [10:40] For some reason, I thought you were NEWing source. [10:40] It's alreayd beyond my control. [10:40] already, too. [10:40] so I was [10:41] I'll fetch source and fix [10:41] Or just kiss breezy goodbye for a while. :) [10:41] Kamion, are you breaking things again ? [10:42] :P === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:44] Mez: no [10:44] lol - good :D [10:47] when you NEW binaries doesn't that mean they've built and are just waiting to get copied to the mirrors? [10:48] Mez: he's unbreaking it [10:48] Mez: I hope [10:48] Amaranth: binaries end up in the NEW queue when no binaries of that name have been in the archive before [10:48] (approximately) [10:49] i mean after you've accepted them though [10:49] Amaranth: yes [10:50] d'oh, daniels tried to use the [arch...] syntax in xserver-xorg's Depends - that only works in Build-Depends [10:51] That would explain the problem.. [10:52] Get to replace it in debian/rules with an arch-dep:substvars, I guess. [10:53] yeah, doing that [10:53] Want to beg mdz to un-ACCEPT the binaries, and I can fix it properly later? [10:53] Or, you can do it now. :) [10:53] I'm off in 5 mins to go smack daniel on your behalf. [10:53] Anything you'd like me to convey? [10:54] UNACCEPT is just bad - I'll fix it and shove through an extra cron.daily [10:55] siretart, ping === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-164-08.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] infinity - you still here? === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp241-209.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] poop [11:00] infinity, or lamont, ping [11:02] it might be better to just ask your question [11:03] and perhaps someone else can answer [11:03] for x in `ls debian/scripts/vars.* | sed 's/.*vars\.//'`; do echo $x; ARCH=$x perl -ne 'print qq{XSERVER_XORG_SPECIAL_DEPENDS="}; chomp; @drivers = split /, /; for my $driverline (@drivers) { $driverline =~ /(.*?) \[(.*)\] / or exit 1; $driver = $1; %arches = map { $_ => 1 } split / /, $2; print "$driver, " if $arches{$ENV{ARCH}} } print qq{"\n}' ../drivers | sed 's/, "/"/' >> debian/scripts/vars.$x; done [11:03] oops [11:03] you know I'm sure there was a more elegant way to do that === Amaranth found a problem with changing the foot icon next to the applications menu [11:03] bob2, I was poking them because I need them to take some stuff OUT of the backports repository :D [11:03] it changes the System->About GNOME icon too [11:04] Amaranth: make them reference different files [11:04] Treenaks: Not my place. [11:04] Amaranth: in my SuSE install they're distinct [11:04] Treenaks: Plus I don't even know where to look. === Lathiat stares at his kernel compile [11:05] its in net/core === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-28-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] after a good 6 hours at least [11:05] are you on a 486? [11:05] 133mhz mips [11:05] w/ 2M/s disk i/o [11:05] Lathiat: wooo === GmanAFK is now known as Gman_ [11:07] i think the disk i/o should be faster [11:07] but my internal scsi bus is lacking a temrinator [11:07] Mez: You mean the dpkg stuff that's in there> [11:07] because i dont have one [11:07] ? [11:07] yeah Amaranth [11:07] That was just a test. [11:08] btw, if breezy can look like http://www.realistanew.com/desktop.png out of the box we can get a lot more users :D === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-088-252.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:08] Amaranth: whats "remote storage" [11:08] just a mount? [11:08] yeah [11:08] Lathiat: indy? [11:08] bob2: yep [11:09] bob2: r4400 [11:09] ah, mine has a 4600sc or something [11:09] I should power it up sometime [11:09] http://bur.st/~lathiat/network.jpg <-- doesnt it just look sexy? [11:09] yeah Amaranth I know it was a test, but it needs to be taken out :D [11:09] bob2: want to get my indycam going [11:09] it detects in debians 2.4.27 but the image comes up all black [11:10] Lathiat: Gateway Multimedia Keyboard? [11:10] Amaranth: or by being awesome, it can attract non-14-year-olds ;) [11:10] Amaranth: not gateway, its "Genius" [11:10] Amaranth: you can send me that picture ;p [11:10] bob2: Dude, that's Cristina Scabbia. She sings better than she looks. :) === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:11] never heard of her [11:11] bob2: you attact 14-year-olds?!? WTF? [11:11] http://reverend.warp1.net/wallpapers/files/christina_scabbia_01.jpg [11:11] bob2: Lacuna Coil [11:12] Amaranth, I've met her :D [11:12] Mez: Die. [11:13] lol :D [11:13] and nightwish :D [11:13] and am meeting sonata arctica and epica in the next 11 days [11:13] nightwish is awesome [11:13] Mez: I know some people who would like to meet epica [11:13] Amaranth: http://bur.st/~lathiat/park21024x768.jpg [11:14] Lathiat: meh [11:14] Treenaks :D well I have Access All Areas for thirteenth day festival [11:14] pff, meh [11:15] Mez: I'm going to find you, steal your pass, and beat you just for fun. [11:15] Mez: nice === Mez tries and finds his old suicidegirls wallpaper [11:15] Amaranth, are you coming 13th day ? [11:15] no [11:15] Lathiat: linda park from star trek? [11:15] Amaranth: yes === Amaranth _is_ a geek [11:15] damnit [11:15] hahaha [11:17] damn [11:17] weoulda been cool if you were :D and woulda been able to get your key signed for ya :P [11:17] come on, linda park *IS* hot [11:17] Mez: agreed [11:17] Mez: but does she sign keys? === Lathiat laughs [11:18] Amaranth: sok, you should use this: http://bur.st/~lathiat/bg.jpg [11:18] Lathiat: dude, that's just weird [11:19] Treenaks, in the future, I'm sure they have subdermal ID devices, so they dont need keys :D [11:19] Mez: still === Mez turns safesearch off and sees what it returns [11:19] geek pickup lines.. "Would you sign my key?" [11:19] lol [11:19] I need to get my gf to get a key so she can have it signed [11:19] hmm [11:19] http://frightenedarmadillo.lunaticsworld.com/fakes/Linda_Park-04-Frightened_Armadillo.jpg [11:19] Amaranth: hahaha [11:19] Mez: that redirects to some php [11:20] does it? [11:20] weird === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [~slomo@p5487B9AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] whee [11:20] refer checking [11:20] Mez: faked [11:20] the problem i have [11:20] is i have widescreen === Treenaks shakes his fist at the referer check [11:20] and nautilus wont do a "full screen aspect scaled" [11:20] so i have to manually edit bg images [11:20] i didn't get any referer check [11:20] Lathiat: yes it will [11:20] which is such effort [11:21] Treenaks: no it doesn [11:21] Treenaks: how? [11:21] Lathiat: yes it does [11:21] which option [11:21] hmm [11:21] Lathiat: scaled [11:21] that leaves bars down the side [11:21] Lathiat: which is scaled + aspect ratio maintained [11:21] i said [11:21] so, how about that local ubuntu development team? [11:21] *full screen* [11:21] i.e. [11:21] stretches it out [11:22]