[01:18] <lamont__> ENOFABBIONE
[01:18] <lamont__> fabbione: or are you here?
=== lamont__ wonders how hard it might be to build a 2.6.12 kernel for ia64 using gcc-3.3
[01:19] <lamont__> since the ones in the archive all seem to machine check
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[06:31] <fabbione> morning
[06:32] <crimsun> morning
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[11:49] <chmj> fabbione: ping 
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[02:45] <zul> hey
[02:47] <fabbione> hi zul
[02:54] <zul> how goes it fabbione 
[02:56] <fabbione> not too good.. but i am surviving
[02:56] <fabbione> i didn't felt very well today
[02:57] <fabbione> you? did you start at the new job?
[03:01] <zul> yep am at work right now
[03:01] <zul> alot of reading to do
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[03:33] <chmj> hey chuck 
[03:46] <zul> hey chmj 
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[03:56] <zul> arrrrgh....my kingdom for grep -r 
[03:56] <Mithrandir> just use grep -r?
[03:57] <zul> solaris
[03:58] <Mithrandir> build gnu coreutils, then
[03:58] <Mithrandir> or use find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep $foo
[03:59] <zul> its more fun to complain though ;)
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[04:57] <zul> jbailey: so are you coming to ols?
[04:57] <jbailey> zul: Yup
[04:58] <jbailey> zul: Are you going / is your new job downtown?
[05:06] <lamont> fabbione: so how dependent is 2.6.12 on gcc-3.4, really?
[05:06] <lamont> that is, if I forced it to use gcc-3.3, would it be a usable kernel?
[05:07] <fabbione> lamont: yes it would... but i am pondering to switch to gcc-4.0 with this upload...
[05:07] <fabbione> do you have a recent gcc-4.0 on hppa?
[05:07] <lamont> no
[05:07] <lamont> you see, first I need _X_
[05:07] <fabbione> this/next... as soon as amd64 is unfucked
[05:08] <lamont> so pls don't switch hppa to 4.0... 
[05:08] <fabbione> well i am not going to upload today or tomorrow
[05:08] <lamont> likewise, the ia64 kernels all machine check _very_ early... I'm suspecting something about 3.4
[05:08] <fabbione> have been sick all day
[05:08] <lamont> and any gcc-4.0 that is not at least current today is majorly b0rked on hppa. that much is known
[05:09] <fabbione> check???
[05:09] <fabbione> i am not sure i understand what you mean for ia64
[05:09] <lamont> machine-check == HPMC (hppa land), hardware induced fatal error
[05:09] <fabbione> ah ok
[05:09] <lamont> --> kernel is tickling the hardware in ways that are not legal
[05:10] <fabbione> ok i get it
[05:10] <fabbione> hmmmmm
[05:10] <lamont> ia64 literature calls them "MCA"s
[05:10] <lamont> so I figured I'd build 2.6.12 kernel with 3.3 and see if that even booted.    Then comes binary-search fun.
[05:11] <fabbione> well if that works for ia64 and hppa.. it's ok with me
[05:12] <fabbione> lamont: if you could actually check how many pkgs still B-D on gcc-3.3
[05:12] <fabbione> we can consider reverting the gcc-3.4 thing from the kernel completly
[05:12] <fabbione> and stay with gcc-3.3 on all arches
[05:12] <fabbione> i doubt we will manage to drop gcc-3.3 from breezy anyway
[05:16] <fabbione> lamont: anyway i am heading off line
[05:16] <fabbione> you have full power on the devel branch :)
[05:16] <fabbione> so go ahead as you prefer
[05:17] <lamont> fabbione: grep gcc-3.3 /var/lib/apt/lists/.._dists_breezy_main_source_Sources | wc -l
[05:17] <lamont> 11
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[05:35] <JaneW> ogra: ping (2nd try)
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[06:19] <zul|working> fabbione: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7717644&forum_id=38938
[06:47] <zul|working> oh yay the cba is done
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[10:31] <dilinger> fabbione: what's ubuntu planning on doing if 2.6.13 is released within a week or two?
[10:32] <jbailey> dilinger: Last I spoke to him, ignoring it.
[10:32] <jbailey> We're passed UVF now.
[10:32] <jbailey> past?
[10:33] <jbailey> Hmm.
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[10:33] <dilinger> aie, goddamned mosquitos
[10:34] <dilinger> jbailey: heh, ok
[10:34] <jbailey> UVF has passed. =)
[10:34] <jbailey> There we go. =)