[12:04] <\sh> mdz: hehe...my crystall ball :) i like it :)
[12:05] <\sh> mdz: anyways..I will get him into the team...
[12:05] <ogra> if he answers :)
[12:05] <\sh> he will :)
[12:06] <mdz> please CC me on the correspondence
[12:06] <\sh> mdz: k
[12:06] <mdz> does that resolve everything regarding wine for the purposes of this meeting?
[12:06] <ogra> sure
[12:06] <\sh> mdz: thx
[12:06] <mdz> great
[12:07] <sabdfl> we should definitely have Master MOTU primarily responsible for UVF decisions
[12:07] <mdz> are there any maintainer candidates to be processed?
[12:07] <ajmitch> sabdfl: which is dholbach  & ogra at the moment, iirc
[12:07] <ogra> yay, more work :)
[12:07] <\sh> ogra: thx for taking it :)
[12:08] <ogra> mdz, nope... 
[12:08] <dholbach> unfortunately, i'm not that often on IRC, people would have to mail me
[12:08] <ajmitch> ogra: you like it though
[12:08] <ogra> ajmitch, sure.... keeps me on track ;)
[12:08] <ajmitch> dholbach: just hand out your phone number for us
[12:08] <ogra> hehe
[12:08] <mdz> ok
[12:08] <\sh> ajmitch: what about u?
[12:08] <dholbach> yeah
[12:08] <mdz> any other business?
[12:08] <dholbach> that's an excellent idea, ajmitch :)
[12:08] <\sh> mdz: w8 pls
[12:08] <ajmitch> \sh: what about me?
[12:08] <mdz> \sh: yes?
[12:09] <sabdfl> dholbach, ogra: am happy for you to delegate more UVF decisions to the community, as long as you are careful with infrastructure stuff that has lots of dependencies
[12:09] <\sh> ajmitch: to be UVF spokesman?
[12:09] <\sh> I like the idea
[12:09] <dholbach> sabdfl: ok
[12:09] <ajmitch> \sh: you'll have to ask the others
[12:09] <\sh> ajmitch: who?
[12:09] <ogra> sabdfl, thanks :)
[12:09] <ajmitch> \sh: ogra & dholbach, for one
[12:10] <\sh> if ogra and dholbach have the time ++++ for me..
[12:10] <ajmitch> \sh: I can do it, but it's not my decision of course :)
[12:11] <ogra> \sh, i trust your judgement if it comes to packages... be one of our delegates then as well as i trust ajmitch 
[12:11] <ogra> siretart, what about you ? 
[12:11] <dholbach> i'm sure we'll manage
[12:11] <\sh> then it's settled
[12:11] <siretart> ogra: sure!
[12:12] <ogra> oki.. we can manage the deatils elsewhere, thanks mdz
[12:12] <\sh> I'm breaking my harddrive again :)
[12:12] <dholbach> what about yet-another-wiki-page?
[12:12] <dholbach> :)
[12:12] <\sh> dholbach: not like the last one, pls
[12:12] <siretart> dholbach: you know my love for wiki pages ;)
[12:12] <dholbach> that's settled then :)
[12:12] <\sh> done..thx mdz
[12:12] <\sh> thx sabdfl 
[12:13] <mdz> ok
[12:13] <mdz> is there any other business which is not on the agenda?
[12:13] <\sh> doesn't look like...beer now? gf is w8ing as well
[12:14] <mdz> ok, meeting adjourned
[12:14] <mdz> thanks, everyone
[12:14] <\sh> thx to u 
[12:14] <sabdfl> night all
[12:14] <ogra> \sh, you already call her gf ... aha
[12:14] <\sh> ogra:oops
[12:14] <ogra> night sabdfl 
[12:14] <dholbach> bye sabdfl :)
[12:14] <\sh> ogra: sorry..;)
[12:14] <ajmitch> bye sabdfl 
[12:14] <ogra> hehehe
[12:14] <dholbach> i'm off to bed too
[12:15] <dholbach> good night
[12:15] <siretart> good night, mark!
[12:15] <ogra> night dholbach 
[12:15] <ajmitch> night dholbach 
[12:15] <siretart> good night, daniel!
[12:15] <\sh> cu dholbach 
[12:15] <\sh> did i say gf?
[12:15] <ogra> probably i just read it :-P
[12:15] <\sh> yeah me too
[12:16] <\sh> and I don't like the reading
[12:16] <siretart> O damn
[12:16] <ajmitch> \sh: you did, sorry
[12:16] <siretart> I forgot another point I wanted to be discussed
[12:16] <ajmitch> \sh: met her last week? :)
[12:16] <siretart> how do we want to proceed with the libaa transition
[12:16] <siretart> do we want to go with it or leave it?
[12:16] <\sh> ajmitch: something like that...u read my blog entry *g*
[12:17] <\sh> she's makeing be crazy..just like the g++ stuff..
[12:17] <\sh> s/be/me/
[12:17] <ogra> \sh, weia
[12:17] <siretart> ogra: how do you think about libaa?
[12:17] <\sh> ogra: ja
[12:18] <ogra> siretart, changing it from aalib ?
[12:18] <\sh> ogra: "mich hats voll erwischt"
[12:18] <siretart> ogra: unstable is making a transition from aalib to libaa right now
[12:18] <ajmitch> siretart: it's moderatly useless?
[12:19] <siretart> and there has been this upload in revu: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=118
[12:19] <siretart> ajmitch: so you are for sticking with aalib, right?
[12:19] <ajmitch> siretart: there aren't too many packages that depends on aalib1
[12:19] <ogra> siretart, it has only 29 rdeps...
[12:19] <siretart> that's right, too.
[12:19] <\sh> 1. what is aa*? 2. unstable is etch right now...so they're lacking 
[12:19] <sistpoty> ascii art
[12:20] <ajmitch> siretart: I think unstable compatibility can be good
[12:20] <\sh> oh important
[12:20] <ajmitch> a few of those rdepends are in main, I think
[12:20] <ogra> \sh, yes, for some functions in gimp for example
[12:20] <siretart> \sh: try installing "bb" on hoary - and you'll see what aa is about ;)
[12:20] <\sh> nono
[12:20] <ajmitch> siretart: aaquake is more fun
[12:20] <ogra> hehe
[12:21] <\sh> I mean, can we deal with it ourselfs or do we need someone from main? ogra? ,-)
[12:21] <siretart> ajmitch: hehe
[12:21] <ogra> \sh, gimp is in main...
[12:21] <ogra> \sh, but feel free to bug me for main rebuilds
[12:21] <\sh> so..it's also far more important
[12:21] <ajmitch> ogra: and libxine
[12:21] <\sh> ogra: any time :)
[12:22] <ogra> ajmitch, more, i guess a bunch of the libs too... i'm to lazy to look it up right now :)
[12:22] <ajmitch> ogra: yep :)
[12:22] <\sh> ok..for me it's ok to go with d-upstream
[12:23] <\sh> i have ace on my list..
[12:24] <siretart> ok
[12:24] <\sh> ogra?
[12:25] <ogra> lets move it over
[12:25] <ogra> (to -motu)
[12:25] <siretart> ok