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| ivoks | siretart: ping | 12:03 |
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| siretart | ah hi ivoks! | 12:03 |
| siretart | finally :) | 12:03 |
| dholbach | hi ivoks | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | hi ivoks | 12:04 |
| ivoks | hi all | 12:04 |
| ivoks | siretart: i have seen typo | 12:04 |
| ivoks | but i don't understand why should it be 0ubuntu1 | 12:04 |
| ivoks | this package is used by quite of people... | 12:04 |
| siretart | ivoks: you mean IWCONFIG instead of ICONFIG? ;) | 12:04 |
| ivoks | yeah... | 12:05 |
| ivoks | IFCONFIG | 12:05 |
| siretart | ivoks: I put this comment in revu | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: it has to be lower than anything that might go into debian | 12:05 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: it is | 12:05 |
| ivoks | 0ubuntu1 | 12:05 |
| ivoks | 0ubuntu7 | 12:05 |
| ivoks | same thing when debian is -1 | 12:05 |
| siretart | ivoks: the thing is, that if wifi-radar -1 gets into breezy, we can sync it from debian. we cannot if its 1ubuntu1 or higher | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: but you said you didn't understand why it should be -0ubuntu1 :) | 12:05 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: yes, cause now it's 0ubuntu4 | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: right, I don't see a problem with that | 12:06 |
| ivoks | siretart: it's 0ubuntu4 :) | 12:06 |
| dholbach | automagical removal of packages is AWESOME | 12:06 |
| siretart | ivoks: we agreed on this procedure some time ago. it is to make live for the archive scripts easier, | 12:06 |
| siretart | ivoks: ah, hm. ic | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | imho, as along as it is 0ubuntuX, it is fine | 12:06 |
| ivoks | doh... soo too much fuss for nothing :) | 12:07 |
| siretart | dholbach: how do you think about this? can we have a 0ubunut4 as initial revision in the archive? | 12:07 |
| ivoks | why not? | 12:07 |
| dholbach | not nice | 12:07 |
| dholbach | but ok | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: fine by me - it happens at times in debian | 12:07 |
| comadreja | could you help me a bit ? I'm taking a look at alexandria, because of these unmetdep | 12:07 |
| comadreja | and it depends on lib<somthing>-ruby > 0.12 | 12:08 |
| comadreja | available only is...0.11.0-1ubuntu1 | 12:08 |
| comadreja | so, I have to change that 0.12.0 for 0.11.0-1ubuntu1 ? | 12:09 |
| ivoks | lol | 12:09 |
| comadreja | or 0.11.0-1 ? | 12:09 |
| ivoks | W: wifi-radar; Maintainer script prerm uses debhelper, but does not use #DEBHELPER#. | 12:09 |
| ivoks | rm is debhelper? :) | 12:09 |
| siretart | ivoks: see debhelper(7) | 12:09 |
| comadreja | siretart : ? | 12:10 |
| ivoks | comadreja: i'm sure there is a reason why it depends on .12 | 12:11 |
| comadreja | then how is that fixed ? | 12:11 |
| comadreja | upgrading lib*-ruby ? | 12:12 |
| ivoks | right | 12:12 |
| comadreja | but that has to be done by the maintainer, right ? | 12:12 |
| ivoks_debugger | right | 12:13 |
| ivoks_debugger | and breezy is frozen | 12:13 |
| comadreja | so, what should I do regarding that ? | 12:13 |
| ivoks_debugger | if that lib is from main, then you are out of luck :( | 12:13 |
| comadreja | universe, one, but there are four | 12:13 |
| siretart | comadreja: sorry, I will have a closer look later (maybe even tomorrow) at alexandria. I noted it on my list | 12:14 |
| ivoks_debugger | ok, i found few very nasty bugs in hoary installer | 12:14 |
| ivoks_debugger | i gaved hoary to a frined of mine to install it | 12:14 |
| dholbach | good night | 12:15 |
| ivoks_debugger | 'night | 12:15 |
| comadreja | siretart,ivoks : thanks | 12:15 |
| comadreja | dholbach : nite | 12:15 |
| === ajmitch ought to do some work today :) | ||
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| ogra | could some java guru please make freemind compile with gcj ? kthnxbye | 12:25 |
| jbailey | ogra: Call me in a week. | 12:25 |
| ogra | jbailey, you think you can ?? o_O | 12:26 |
| jbailey | ogra: Wrestling with eclipse first. =) | 12:26 |
| siretart | jbailey: was my subversion patch to sourcepackage helpful? | 12:26 |
| ogra | AWESOME !! i didnt think it was possible | 12:26 |
| jbailey | ogra: I haven't asserted that anything's possible or impossible. | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | hi jeff :) | 12:26 |
| jbailey | G'm Andrew | 12:26 |
| jbailey | siretart: Lemme look at that now. A nice easy patch to something sounds lovely to look at. | 12:27 |
| ogra | jbailey, but demoting your time to it makes it a bit more possible for me to include it in the edubuntu default install ;) | 12:27 |
| jbailey | ogra: Dude, you're being evil. =) | 12:27 |
| ogra | s/possible/likely | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | looks like planet ubuntu became planet riddell today | 12:27 |
| === \sh is correcting the list of dholbach | ||
| siretart | \sh: which list? | 12:27 |
| jbailey | ogra: You know that if you need it for edubuntu that I'll give it more time. =) | 12:27 |
| ogra | jbailey, i dont *need* it, but its obviously the best tool for the job | 12:28 |
| \sh | UniverseUnmetDeps | 12:28 |
| siretart | ah | 12:28 |
| jbailey | siretart: This is bug 6096, right? | 12:28 |
| jbailey | I don't see a patch on it. | 12:29 |
| jbailey | Or do you means the one Wolfgang? | 12:29 |
| siretart | jbailey: I hoped that debzilla will import my comment from the debian bts | 12:29 |
| jbailey | Was it bug 271125 ? | 12:29 |
| siretart | jbailey: I sent the patch to debian bts with CC: to you, wait I'll look up the bug# | 12:29 |
| jbailey | subject "patch for sourcepackage" | 12:30 |
| jbailey | I have it in my email. | 12:30 |
| siretart | exactly | 12:30 |
| jbailey | Err. includes patches to g++-4.0? | 12:30 |
| === jbailey phears. | ||
| siretart | for compiling with g++-4.0 | 12:31 |
| ogra | lol | 12:31 |
| siretart | no patching of it. sorry for my bad english :( | 12:31 |
| jbailey | No worries. =) | 12:31 |
| \sh | english? patch is not english ,-) | 12:31 |
| siretart | :) | 12:31 |
| \sh | and ok..one more build then gf ,-) | 12:32 |
| jbailey | siretart: Tell you what. I have to work on the Java Packaging Policy tomorrow anyway. I'll make sure this is all setup tocomply and get this done. Will you poke me if I don't mention it? =) | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | yay, finally new gnue prereleases :) | 12:33 |
| \sh | damn | 12:33 |
| siretart | jbailey: Perfect! will do :) | 12:33 |
| \sh | gfccore | 12:34 |
| \sh | cxx trans | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | \sh: hmm? | 12:35 |
| jbailey | gnue? Wow. Haven't thought about that in ages. =) | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | \sh: yeah, sorry about that one :) | 12:35 |
| \sh | ajmitch: depends on libsigcc++2.0 | 12:35 |
| \sh | ajmitch: depends on libsigcc++2.0c2 ,-) | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | \sh: and the problem is? | 12:36 |
| \sh | shout i upload it as build1 or rename it. | 12:36 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: yeah, I thought they'd stopped working on it for awhile :) | 12:36 |
| ajmitch | \sh: rename it | 12:37 |
| \sh | looks like | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: well I might have to do some debian work for a change then ;) | 12:37 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: Just upload the Ubuntu version to Debian. =) | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: but I'd have to get a UVF exception for breezy :) | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | easier to build them on the sid chroot, commit the changes to the bazaar archive I setup for them | 12:40 |
| siretart | ok, I'm for for bed then. | 12:41 |
| siretart | cu tomorrow, gn8 folks! | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | night siretart | 12:41 |
| sistpoty | gn8 siretart | 12:41 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: You've caught the bazaar bug? =) | 12:42 |
| \sh | yeah...gn8 to you all :) | 12:42 |
| sistpoty | gn8 \sh | 12:42 |
| \sh | ogra: thx 4 upload :) cu tomorrow :) | 12:42 |
| \sh | sistpoty: sleep well | 12:42 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: Nightly bzr snapshots now at deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr ./ | 12:42 |
| jbailey | =) | 12:42 |
| ogra | \sh_away, night | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: yay! | 12:43 |
| sistpoty | gn8 all | 12:44 |
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| ajmitch | this place is always so quiet once the europeans depart :) | 12:49 |
| pagefault | yep | 12:53 |
| comadreja | ajmitch : some of us are still here :) | 12:56 |
| comadreja | btw, I need some help maybe one of you could do it | 12:57 |
| comadreja | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps | 12:57 |
| comadreja | do you know if those packages are hoary ? or breezy ? | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | breezy | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | we don't work on hoary anymore for things like that | 12:57 |
| comadreja | does amsynth fail for you ? | 12:58 |
| comadreja | it works here | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | comadreja: as the note at the top says, it was done an an adm64 | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | amd64 | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | and some packages need fixed for that platform | 12:59 |
| comadreja | I see | 01:00 |
| comadreja | I'll try another, everyone I've tried failed for some other reason or worked | 01:00 |
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| pagefault | yep | 01:03 |
| pagefault | oops | 01:03 |
| Riddell | ajmitch: that'll be the return of kdedevelopers.org then, tsk | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | Riddell: it disappeared? | 01:05 |
| Riddell | ajmitch: malitiously cracked while all the developers were at the KDevelop conference | 01:05 |
| Riddell | planet.kde.org is very broken, ach weel | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | nasty | 01:06 |
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| diamond | nite folks | 01:12 |
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| Mez | mysql-query-browser needs an update from debian | 01:44 |
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| ajmitch | Mez: needs in what way? | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | Mez: it needs merged, by the look of things | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | last debian upload was 3 weeks ago | 01:55 |
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| Mez | yeah ajmitch, I was looking through what we backported :D | 01:58 |
| Mez | and it needs merging down | 01:58 |
| Mez | as we backported from debian not breezy | 01:58 |
| Mez | ;) | 01:58 |
| Mez | fluxbox needs a manual merge too | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | we'll get round to it asap :) | 01:59 |
| Mez | yeah, I mean I'll prob rebuild them once I've finished this list :D | 01:59 |
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| Mez | seeing as they work perfectly well in backports | 01:59 |
| Mez | ltsp too | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | right | 02:01 |
| === ajmitch will bbl, time for lunch :) | ||
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| Mez | where did unrar go in breezy? | 02:08 |
| schweeb | chris@schweeb-x41:~$ apt-cache search unrar | 02:09 |
| schweeb | unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files | 02:09 |
| schweeb | unrar-nonfree - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) | 02:09 |
| Mez | firefox needs to provide dummy's for mozilla-firefox if backporting | 02:12 |
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| pagefault | wow mountain dew with caffeine is so much better | 02:33 |
| schweeb | pagefault: caffeine is the only reason you drink mt dew | 02:34 |
| pagefault | here you couldn't get caffeine in mountain dew until this year | 02:34 |
| schweeb | blech | 02:35 |
| pagefault | we have a silly law that says drinks can't contain caffeine unless it's cola coloured otherwise it has to be a 'health energy drink' | 02:35 |
| schweeb | yea, canoodia? | 02:35 |
| pagefault | so they released some new mountain dew 'health' drink but it's just moutain dew with caffeine | 02:35 |
| pagefault | yeah | 02:35 |
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| schweeb | no reason to be there, unless you want to drink at 19 :P | 02:35 |
| schweeb | (legally that is) | 02:36 |
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| comadreja | awake ? anybody ? | 04:05 |
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| jc_c | hello | 06:47 |
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| HostingGeek | http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=3766 | 07:06 |
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| siretart | morning | 08:08 |
| Burgundavia | morning | 08:08 |
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| ivoks | 'morning | 08:38 |
| crimsun | moin | 08:38 |
| Burgundavia | evening | 08:38 |
| siretart | hi ivoks | 08:43 |
| ivoks | hi | 08:43 |
| siretart | ivoks: are there any question left about wifi-radar? it went rather quick, yesterday.. | 08:44 |
| siretart | did I scare him? | 08:46 |
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| pef | hi | 09:08 |
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| \sh | morning guys | 09:32 |
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| siretart | hi \sh | 09:38 |
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| \sh | morning siretart | 09:57 |
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| comadreja | morning | 10:19 |
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| zanaga | who should i bug to get beagle as a package to malone and to get a bug re-assigned to that package? | 10:24 |
| Amaranth | zanaga: file a bug against malone to get beagle added | 10:25 |
| zanaga | filing.. | 10:25 |
| zanaga | oh neat, there are layout changes in launchpad ;) | 10:26 |
| comadreja | I need a motu to review clanlib | 10:30 |
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| SloMo_ | Mez: pong ;) | 10:42 |
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| Mez | slomo: you need to make it to next CC meeting :D | 10:43 |
| Mez | backports on the agenda | 10:43 |
| SloMo_ | Mez: hehe ok, when is it? | 10:43 |
| Mez | Tue 19 July 14:00 UTC Community Council | 10:44 |
| Mez | they're diuscussing the backports team | 10:44 |
| SloMo_ | hmm, i'll try... i have a lecture until 14:00 UTC but i'll leave it a bit earlier ;) | 10:46 |
| Amaranth | SloMo_: I'll hopefully have a string freeze coming up soon on Smeg, btw. | 10:48 |
| SloMo_ | Amaranth: fine :) can you notify me then? btw, where can i get your latest sources? | 10:50 |
| Amaranth | you can't get them anywhere right now | 10:50 |
| pef | If the orig tarball of a program is named weirdly (like foo-222-b) or isn't correct (no directory inside or only a foo, no foo-xx) what should I do ? | 10:53 |
| SloMo_ | ok... well, i have to leave now... will be back in ~3 hours :) bye bye | 10:54 |
| Amaranth | pef: Fix it, I guess. | 10:56 |
| pef | Amaranth: yes, but how ? | 10:56 |
| Amaranth | Um, retar it. | 10:56 |
| pef | Amaranth: and just mention I have done this to debian.readme ? | 10:58 |
| Amaranth | *shrug* | 10:58 |
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| Amaranth | I dunno how you're supposed to do it, I'm just telling you what I'd do. | 10:58 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:ogra] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | hey, its bugday join #ubuntu-bugs ! | ||
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| === Lathiat ponders petting openssi packages in ubuntu | ||
| Mez | whats the difference between using libgtkhtml3.8-dev and libgtkhtml-dev for a build-Depends ? | 11:37 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: openssi? a free clone of irssi? | 11:37 |
| Lathiat | Treenaks: clustering stuff | 11:37 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: (which is already free) | 11:37 |
| Lathiat | Treenaks: like mosix except | 11:37 |
| Lathiat | Treenaks: it all comes up as one virtual machine | 11:38 |
| Lathiat | rather than individual machiens running tasks | 11:38 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: ooh, cool | 11:38 |
| Lathiat | require magic is in sarge | 11:38 |
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| Lathiat | it seems a little old | 11:38 |
| comadreja | I need a motu to review clanlib | 11:43 |
| comadreja | it's the library that breaks race | 11:43 |
| comadreja | that is in the unmetdeps page | 11:44 |
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| ivoks | oh, my, my... | 11:46 |
| ivoks | again changes in ligl-dev :( | 11:46 |
| Lathiat | libgl ? | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | heh | 11:47 |
| ivoks | yeah.. | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | im waiting a bit | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | before i fix bzflag | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | daniels thinks after this upload it should be good | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | we had a discussion yesterday in -devel | 11:47 |
| ivoks | let's see | 11:47 |
| ivoks | i was too busy these days to check lists.. :( | 11:47 |
| Lathiat | as in irc | 11:47 |
| ivoks | ah, irc... | 11:47 |
| ivoks | too busy too :( | 11:48 |
| ivoks | Removing capplets... doesn't sound good :( | 11:48 |
| ivoks | nope :( | 11:50 |
| ivoks | bzflag: Depends: xlibmesa-glu but it is not going to be installed | 11:50 |
| Lathiat | well, i've got the new 2.0 packages | 11:50 |
| Lathiat | but it ftbfs due to dep issues | 11:51 |
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| Mez | hmm, jsut as an FYI: mysql-query-browser needs merging from debian (and some wub) | 12:24 |
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| siretart | Lathiat: you discussed the libgl situation with daniels yesterday? | 12:55 |
| Lathiat | siretart: well, someone else did while i was there | 12:56 |
| siretart | Lathiat: if you have an overview, would you mind to set up a summary page about what dependencies for gl apps are recommended? | 12:57 |
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| havoc | morning | 01:29 |
| siretart | Lathiat: if you don't have time, I will do my best this evening.. | 01:33 |
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| havoc | jbailey: morning | 01:42 |
| jbailey | Heya havoc | 01:43 |
| havoc | I have to convince some debian people to possibly use ubuntu | 01:44 |
| havoc | not quite sure how yet | 01:44 |
| havoc | not sure that I know enough about ubuntu to offer a compelling objective argument yet | 01:44 |
| ogra | ubuntu _is_ debian, just more userfriendly and ahead of time in some places.... you have a guaranteed release schedule and 18months of guaranteed support... | 01:46 |
| havoc | support from coninical? | 01:47 |
| havoc | (did I spell that right?) | 01:47 |
| \sh | paid support from canonical | 01:47 |
| \sh | community support from users | 01:47 |
| havoc | "user friendly" in what way(s)? | 01:48 |
| havoc | (vs. debian) | 01:48 |
| pef | siretart: ping | 01:48 |
| ogra | better commandline disintegration | 01:48 |
| siretart | pef: pong | 01:48 |
| \sh | put cd in, install, be happy that way of "user friendly" | 01:48 |
| \sh | most of the things are working out of the box...especially on laptops :) | 01:49 |
| pef | siretart: first, hello :) and can you explain me where I can be informated of the libaa transition you mentionned here http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=118 ? | 01:49 |
| havoc | so better installer, better "out-of-the-box" hardware support, better UI (Gnome/KDE) packaging? | 01:49 |
| ogra | havoc, also we ship stuff debian will never be able to ship... firmware in the restricted modules etc | 01:49 |
| havoc | ogra: ah, ok, so definitely better hardware support | 01:50 |
| siretart | pef: we decided yesterday that we will do the libaa -> aalib transition, will give an update (in form of an wikipage) this evening when I get home | 01:50 |
| ogra | i wouldnt say better to any software, since all components are the original debian ones... but configured more userfriendly | 01:50 |
| siretart | there aren't that many packages affected (39 packaged I heared yesterday) | 01:50 |
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| AndyFitz | ogra, may I email you a cleaner icon tarball? | 01:50 |
| \sh | havoc: and...Ubuntu has the MOTUs. We're the funny guys, with the funny name, and funny faces, doing funny things like helping people to package new soft...and we have our Ubuntu NUN | 01:50 |
| ogra | AndyFitz, YES ! | 01:50 |
| ogra | :-D | 01:50 |
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| pef | siretart: ok, I hope I can help you :) | 01:51 |
| ogra | havoc, our installer is nearly identical with the debian installer... they just use different defaults | 01:51 |
| siretart | :) | 01:51 |
| \sh | ogra: sturmkind has a nice idea to help us recruiting MOTUs :) | 01:51 |
| havoc | ogra: ok | 01:52 |
| ogra | havoc, thats goes for most of the software... | 01:52 |
| ogra | \sh, great | 01:52 |
| havoc | ogra: *I* am already using it, I just need to be able to convince some others :) | 01:52 |
| havoc | I think the release schedule and the non-free hardware support will be the most compelling points | 01:53 |
| \sh | ogra: u remember this US poster with the guy how said: "We Need You" for the US Army? I think we can release for breezy a poster with a badger on it, and point towards the people and write on it: "MOTU wants YOU" | 01:53 |
| Mez | lol | 01:53 |
| ogra | havoc, setting up a clean (with only one DE and good configured) debian desktop system takes me 4h at least, setting up a ubuntu box with the same target takes me less ten 30mins | 01:53 |
| \sh | -how/+who | 01:53 |
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| ogra | \sh, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTURecruitment (my first MOTU wikipage ever) ;) | 01:54 |
| havoc | ogra: yeah, only took *me* (my first time) ~20min to get the base of my server installed | 01:54 |
| \sh | ogra: put a badger on it ,-) | 01:54 |
| ogra | \sh, and whats for breezy+1 ? | 01:56 |
| ogra | note that breezy gets uninteresting for us once its released | 01:56 |
| ogra | (except MOTUSecurity indeed) | 01:56 |
| havoc | I wonder just how well ubuntu would work on my sony vaio laptop | 01:58 |
| ogra | how old ? | 02:00 |
| ogra | it works fine on my PCG-F707 | 02:00 |
| ogra | but thats 5 years old | 02:00 |
| havoc | it's a 505 series | 02:01 |
| havoc | never been able to get *all* the hardware working properly under linux | 02:02 |
| comadreja | I need a motu to review clanlib | 02:04 |
| comadreja | it's the library that breaks race | 02:04 |
| comadreja | that is in the unmetdeps page | 02:04 |
| \sh | ogra: codename for breezy +1? then we replace the badger with animal of breezy +1 ,-) | 02:05 |
| \sh | clanlib? | 02:05 |
| ogra | \sh, no codename yet | 02:05 |
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| \sh | is my name in? | 02:05 |
| Treenaks | \sh: Super Stephan ? | 02:06 |
| ogra | shiny \sh ? | 02:07 |
| comadreja | \sh yes, name is libclanlib2c2 | 02:07 |
| \sh | no..in clanlib | 02:07 |
| \sh | comadreja: what's breaking? | 02:07 |
| AndyFitz | ogra, all sent | 02:08 |
| ogra | AndyFitz, already here :) | 02:08 |
| \sh | and I have to fix ajmitchs mistakes ,-) | 02:08 |
| siretart | \sh: I read somewhere it could be Perky Penguin | 02:08 |
| comadreja | \sh it didn't install the libraries actualy | 02:08 |
| siretart | but I also like 'Angry Aakward' ;) | 02:08 |
| AndyFitz | second email sent just for fun. ;) | 02:08 |
| ogra | heh | 02:08 |
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| comadreja | \sh just the docs, for libclan2-* | 02:09 |
| \sh | comadreja: hmmm...give me 10 minutes... | 02:09 |
| comadreja | \sh sure | 02:09 |
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| ogra | siretart, it wont be perky and it wont be angry :) | 02:09 |
| \sh | Lovely Backslash | 02:10 |
| ogra | heh | 02:10 |
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| ogra | breezy+1 will be the first with long term support, i think the name will reflect that... | 02:11 |
| \sh | Howling Wolf ? | 02:11 |
| \sh | wow...pbuilder on my xfs fs is quite fast | 02:12 |
| ogra | \sh, dont run out of diskspace ;) xfs gets a mess then | 02:13 |
| \sh | ogra: hmmm..right | 02:15 |
| \sh | but I hope someone sponsors me a 160GB internal 2.5" hd for the laptop here *eg* | 02:16 |
| ogra | \sh, rather take a HW RAID ;) with 2x 160GB ad striping | 02:17 |
| ogra | and | 02:17 |
| ogra | but i guess your case is to small for two HDs | 02:17 |
| comadreja | \sh btw, the package race, was broken because of the libclanlib stuff | 02:17 |
| comadreja | now it recompiles and installs perfectly | 02:17 |
| comadreja | should I upload race too ? | 02:17 |
| \sh | comadreja: libclanlib was transitioned | 02:18 |
| comadreja | notice, that I haven't changed a line | 02:18 |
| \sh | comadreja: what was the problem with "race" then...errormsg? | 02:18 |
| comadreja | broken depends | 02:19 |
| \sh | hu? | 02:19 |
| comadreja | unmet depends | 02:19 |
| comadreja | I mean, it wouldn't install | 02:19 |
| ogra | so you just need to trigger a rebuild | 02:20 |
| comadreja | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps I found out it here | 02:20 |
| \sh | comadreja: u mean apt-get install race is not installable, cause it has old dependencies | 02:20 |
| \sh | thats why those apps are on this page ,-) | 02:20 |
| comadreja | but with the updated libclanlib package | 02:20 |
| comadreja | sure :D | 02:20 |
| comadreja | I was working on that :) | 02:21 |
| comadreja | that's why I checked the package | 02:21 |
| comadreja | how do I trigger a rebuild ? | 02:21 |
| \sh | so libclanlib wasn't breaking...only the binary deps were wrong of race.. | 02:21 |
| \sh | comadreja: upload rights? | 02:21 |
| ogra | you just upload the unchanged package with a new version that containd -buildX | 02:21 |
| ogra | contains | 02:21 |
| comadreja | yes, libclanlib was broken | 02:22 |
| ogra | (if it has no -ubuntuX revision) | 02:22 |
| \sh | comadreja: ok...now why was libclanlib broken? | 02:22 |
| \sh | wasn't it compiling? | 02:22 |
| comadreja | yes, it compiled, but the packages it generated wouldn't include the libraries | 02:22 |
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| comadreja | so afterwards race wouldn't compile | 02:23 |
| comadreja | do you have libclanlib installed ? | 02:23 |
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| \sh | comadreja: no...i'm using pbuilder :) | 02:24 |
| comadreja | if so, do a dpkg L libclan2-sound | 02:24 |
| comadreja | then try to build race | 02:24 |
| comadreja | I'll show you, I was working yesterday like 3 hours until I figured out the problem | 02:25 |
| comadreja | hey ogra: what's up | 02:26 |
| ogra | hmm, i dont see a issue with clanlib here... seems fine | 02:26 |
| \sh | it's ok for me as well | 02:27 |
| \sh | pbuilder doesn't complain about deps or broken stuff here | 02:27 |
| ogra | comadreja, IZ BOOG DAY ! | 02:27 |
| comadreja | look at the packages libclan2-sound libclan2-* | 02:27 |
| ogra | yes, whats wrong with them ? | 02:27 |
| comadreja | the contents, look at them | 02:27 |
| comadreja | they don't cointain the .so | 02:27 |
| comadreja | they just create the dangling links | 02:28 |
| comadreja | build process for race will fail at the end, at linking time | 02:29 |
| comadreja | build-deps are ok | 02:29 |
| \sh | yes | 02:30 |
| \sh | debian/rules is completly fcked | 02:30 |
| \sh | it's wrong from the beginning to the end | 02:30 |
| comadreja | ok, I didn't touch debian rules | 02:30 |
| \sh | AJ!!! ;-) | 02:31 |
| comadreja | I just made it include the libraries | 02:31 |
| comadreja | there was a naming proble | 02:31 |
| comadreja | the .install files were called like libclan2c2-sound.install | 02:31 |
| \sh | this is correct | 02:31 |
| comadreja | and they had to be libclan2.install | 02:31 |
| \sh | but in has to be in the rules as well... | 02:31 |
| \sh | pkg_base is wrong | 02:31 |
| \sh | no | 02:32 |
| \sh | clanlib is renamed...cause of cxx trans | 02:32 |
| \sh | so libclan2c2-sound is correct.. | 02:32 |
| comadreja | oh, I see | 02:32 |
| \sh | but in the rules file there is libclan2-sound | 02:32 |
| comadreja | then remove my package :D | 02:32 |
| \sh | pkg_base is libclan2 and not libclan2c2 | 02:32 |
| ogra | shlib depends are broken | 02:32 |
| comadreja | I'll fix it and upload again | 02:32 |
| \sh | where do u upload? | 02:33 |
| comadreja | revu | 02:33 |
| \sh | of forget revu for this stuff | 02:33 |
| \sh | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11093 | 02:33 |
| \sh | provide debdiff patches :) | 02:34 |
| \sh | pls | 02:34 |
| comadreja | ok | 02:34 |
| \sh | don't do this with revu | 02:34 |
| \sh | put the corrected debdiff to this entry, reopen it | 02:34 |
| \sh | so I will recompile the stuff with your changes :) thx man :) | 02:35 |
| siretart | \sh: we should really try to define some sort of revu usage policy, which defines what upload should go to revu and what fixes should better be provided as debdiffs | 02:35 |
| comadreja | ok, no prob... :) | 02:35 |
| ogra | siretart, everything thats not transition related can go to revu | 02:35 |
| ogra | else you will spam revu with useless stuff... | 02:35 |
| \sh | siretart: this is the problem...revu should really a review tool... | 02:36 |
| \sh | the transition stuff should go to bugzilla, cause there r already entries for it (good for debian as well)...and we can work with the debdiffs much faster... | 02:36 |
| siretart | this brings me more ideas for revu2. some kind of 'categorizing' or 'labeling' feature.. | 02:36 |
| comadreja | sorry about that | 02:37 |
| \sh | comadreja: there is no sorry...you were right :) nobody told you :) so we have to be sorry :) | 02:38 |
| SloMoSnail | what about a package which just needed a gcc 4.0 compile patch? should this go to revu? | 02:39 |
| siretart | SloMoSnail: this is transition related. g++ transition is handled via bugzilla.ubuntu.com | 02:39 |
| siretart | plus wiki | 02:40 |
| \sh | SloMoSnail: acutally it would be nice to have a bugzilla entry with debdiff patches..(where your gcc4 patch is included) | 02:40 |
| \sh | summary: CXX Transition: <sourcepackagename> | 02:40 |
| \sh | (renaming is not nescessary anymore, it was only for libs) | 02:41 |
| SloMoSnail | ok | 02:41 |
| comadreja | where are the docs on the renamed libraries ? | 02:41 |
| \sh | wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList | 02:41 |
| \sh | comadreja: build-depends should point always to the lib<foo>-dev package | 02:42 |
| comadreja | there, in that page, it says that both packages are called libclan2- | 02:43 |
| comadreja | libclan2-* | 02:43 |
| \sh | comadreja: now we have chaos | 02:44 |
| comadreja | :D | 02:44 |
| comadreja | so I call them libclan2c2-* | 02:44 |
| \sh | nope | 02:45 |
| \sh | don't do it.. | 02:45 |
| \sh | moment | 02:45 |
| \sh | ples | 02:45 |
| \sh | ok...here's the plan | 02:46 |
| \sh | rename the libclan2c2-*.install files to libclan2-*.install | 02:46 |
| \sh | but not the libclanlib2c2.install, cause this is correct. | 02:46 |
| comadreja | that's already done in the revu package | 02:46 |
| comadreja | that's correct | 02:46 |
| SloMoSnail | siretart: it's an universe package... really to bugzilla.ubuntu.com or to launchpad? | 02:46 |
| \sh | comadreja: ok...nice...do u know how to work with debdiff? | 02:47 |
| comadreja | nopes | 02:47 |
| \sh | comadreja: ok... | 02:47 |
| \sh | the last version in the ubuntu archives is clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu2.dsc | 02:47 |
| \sh | the next version of yours will be clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu3.dsc | 02:47 |
| \sh | k? | 02:47 |
| \sh | now do this: | 02:47 |
| comadreja | yes | 02:47 |
| \sh | debdiff clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu2.dsc clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu3.dsc > clanlib.diff | 02:47 |
| comadreja | perfect | 02:48 |
| \sh | and send it to the bugentry i gave u earlier | 02:48 |
| \sh | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11093 <- clanlib cxx trans bugentry :) at your service... | 02:49 |
| \sh | brb smoking | 02:49 |
| ogra | \sh, no need to redress for us :) | 02:50 |
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| bddebian | Guten Tag | 02:51 |
| ogra | bddebian, german class today ? :) | 02:52 |
| bddebian | Heh | 02:52 |
| bddebian | Class? I have no class. ;-) | 02:52 |
| ogra | unclassified bddebian :) | 02:52 |
| Treenaks | classless object? | 02:53 |
| Treenaks | mhmm | 02:53 |
| siretart | SloMoSnail: we opened for every cxx transition a bug in bugzilla, even for universe packages | 02:53 |
| bddebian | Treenaks: That is probably closer. :-) | 02:53 |
| SloMoSnail | siretart: here it is: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2989 | 02:54 |
| SloMoSnail | siretart: everything correct? | 02:54 |
| siretart | SloMoSnail: looks ok | 02:55 |
| SloMoSnail | it was on UniverseUnmetDeps... shall i remove it from there and add it somewhere else? | 02:56 |
| comadreja | ok, done | 03:07 |
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| comadreja | \sh : I can't reopen the bug | 03:12 |
| comadreja | \sh : but I've sent the diff | 03:12 |
| \sh | comadreja: I reopened it :) | 03:19 |
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| \sh | comadreja: r u member already? | 03:22 |
| comadreja | \sh: nopes, I applied | 03:28 |
| comadreja | latest xserver-xorg is broken :/ | 03:29 |
| ogra | comadreja, dont miss next tuesday then :) | 03:29 |
| comadreja | thanks ogra :D | 03:29 |
| Amaranth | comadreja: sort of | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | comadreja: install xserver-xorg-input-kbd xerver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-<your display driver> and edit xorg.conf and change Driver "keyboard" to Driver "kbd" | 03:30 |
| Amaranth | Lathiat: xserver-xorg-driver-<your display driver> | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | er | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 03:30 |
| Amaranth | the monitor isn't input :P | 03:30 |
| \sh | hmmm...fglrx is working ?? ,-) | 03:30 |
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| Amaranth | \sh: with -36? | 03:31 |
| \sh | Amaranth: with 2.6.12-3 ,-) | 03:31 |
| ivoks | hello | 03:31 |
| Amaranth | oh, i was talking about X | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: sure it is | 03:31 |
| ivoks | it's great when you boot your system, and see nv - module not found :) | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | its input when i smack it off the desk out the window | 03:31 |
| \sh | Amaranth: yeah me too ;) fglrx kernel module is not working with 2.6.12-3 | 03:31 |
| comadreja | there was a missing link, will that solve it ? | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | comadreja: its not a link, its misssing package | 03:31 |
| comadreja | oh, cool, thanks | 03:31 |
| Lathiat | just install what i said :) | 03:32 |
| Amaranth | -37 was building to fix the lack of basic drivers and it got all screwed up | 03:32 |
| Lathiat | and amaranths correction to my stupidity | 03:32 |
| Amaranth | unaccepted | 03:32 |
| ivoks | Amaranth: X are totally broken :) | 03:32 |
| Amaranth | -38 should fix all that and fix the Driver 'kbd' thing too i hope | 03:32 |
| Amaranth | nah, X is working fine here | 03:32 |
| Amaranth | it's just gone fully modular | 03:32 |
| ivoks | i don't know | 03:32 |
| ivoks | i don't have nv module anymore :) | 03:33 |
| Amaranth | xserver-xorg-driver-nv | 03:33 |
| \sh | comadreja: I included one statement more in the changelog...(under your name) and will upload it with your data | 03:33 |
| ivoks | you are kidding me, right? | 03:33 |
| \sh | * debian/*.install: renamed to correct packagenames | 03:33 |
| Amaranth | no | 03:33 |
| ivoks | heh | 03:33 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:33 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:33 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:34 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:34 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:34 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:34 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:34 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:34 |
| Amaranth | ok, stop | 03:34 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:34 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:34 |
| \sh | uploaded | 03:34 |
| comadreja | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 03:34 |
| comadreja | ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xorg-driver-synaptics xserver-xorg | 03:34 |
| comadreja | sorry !!!! | 03:34 |
| comadreja | my mouse | 03:34 |
| \sh | comadreja: now u r famous :) | 03:35 |
| comadreja | :DDD | 03:35 |
| comadreja | sorry | 03:35 |
| comadreja | really | 03:35 |
| ivoks | comadreja: use ctrl c, ctrl v | 03:35 |
| \sh | comadreja: no... | 03:35 |
| Amaranth | xorg-driver-synaptics is xserver-xorg-driver-synaptics now, isn't it? | 03:35 |
| comadreja | ok, it will remove ubuntu-desktop ? | 03:35 |
| Amaranth | ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage | 03:35 |
| Amaranth | so is xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core | 03:35 |
| comadreja | E: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-driver-synaptics | 03:36 |
| ogra | Amaranth, dunno, (synaptics) i think daniels shuffles the words daily .... probably he's waiting for bets on the next change | 03:36 |
| ivoks | :)) | 03:36 |
| comadreja | I'll pin 6.8.2-33 until he decides :D | 03:37 |
| Amaranth | ok, i guess you don't get a mouse then :D | 03:37 |
| ogra | heh | 03:37 |
| Amaranth | -35 is the first with a modular xserver-xorg | 03:37 |
| Amaranth | and you shouldn't even have seen that | 03:37 |
| \sh | ogra: my tip is: he is playing the "Gaensebluemchenspiel" ,-) It Works, It Works Not, It Works, ... | 03:37 |
| Amaranth | it was replaced with -36 before it finished | 03:37 |
| ogra | heh | 03:37 |
| ivoks | lol xserver-org-input-kbd :) | 03:42 |
| Amaranth | yes, that is needed | 03:43 |
| Amaranth | -38 is coming, will fix all this | 03:43 |
| Amaranth | it'll depend on that, i guess | 03:43 |
| ivoks | X are totally modular now :) | 03:44 |
| ivoks | and it's kbd now, not keyboard anymore... | 03:44 |
| Amaranth | yes | 03:45 |
| Amaranth | Driver\t'kbd' | 03:45 |
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| siretart | is it possible to use tomboy in kde? (a collegue in my room asks me) | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | hrm | 04:31 |
| tseng | it works with anything that uses the notification standard | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | no, since it's a panel applet | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | unless there is some other way to start it | 04:31 |
| tseng | it can run as a tray icon | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | it can? | 04:31 |
| tseng | tomboy --tray-icon, suprisingly | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | oh, hehe | 04:31 |
| siretart | tseng: thanks, works great, he's happy now :) | 04:34 |
| tseng | ok. | 04:34 |
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| pef | I have to copy to /usr/share/foo a multiples directories with multiples sub-directories (tcl/tk program) must I copy each one with install in the install target ? (which is very long, and like I see in amsn source package) or there is a clever way ? | 04:47 |
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| \sh | ok...preparing to go home...cu later guys | 04:52 |
| comadreja | bye | 04:54 |
| comadreja | /ws 3 | 04:57 |
| pef | xlibmesa-glu transition breaks a lot of packages :/ | 05:03 |
| Lathiat | indeed | 05:03 |
| Lathiat | im going to work on that when daniels tells me its stable | 05:04 |
| pef | Lathiat: I have seen several games broken, should I file a bug report for each one ? | 05:06 |
| Lathiat | because its a mass thing | 05:06 |
| Lathiat | probably best just to deal with them | 05:06 |
| Lathiat | rather than file lot sof bug reports | 05:06 |
| pef | Lathiat: have you a wiki page or something like this where I can report the broken packages I've already seen ? | 05:08 |
| Lathiat | pef: nope but an apt-cache rdepends should tell us them all | 05:09 |
| Lathiat | pef: feel free to just tell me tho and i'll make sure they show up | 05:09 |
| Lathiat | pef: what packages have you found | 05:10 |
| pef | siretart: can you please notice me when you have created the wiki page about libaa transition ? | 05:14 |
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| \sh | re | 05:52 |
| Lathiat | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition | 05:53 |
| siretart | pef: will do | 05:53 |
| Lathiat | siretart: im interested in joining the motugames team | 05:54 |
| Lathiat | siretart: how do i apply? :) | 05:54 |
| pef | siretart: thanks :) | 05:54 |
| siretart | Lathiat: woah. Thanks a lot for MOTUGLUTransition! :) | 05:54 |
| Lathiat | siretart: now it stime to start working on it ;p | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | clanlib needs love too | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | i saw someone mention it earlier | 05:55 |
| siretart | Lathiat: hehe. Be welcomed to MOTUGames! :) | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | has someone handled that? | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | cool ;p | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | that said | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | im not a member or anything yet | 05:55 |
| siretart | I read earlier comadreja and \sh talking about clanlib | 05:55 |
| pef | Lathiat: you speak about the 0.7 version of clanlib ? | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | pef: i dunno just a bunch of thigns are uninstallable | 05:56 |
| siretart | mit sure about the results | 05:56 |
| \sh | siretart: yepp...should be fixed | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | nfi what the problem is | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | i suspect cxx transition related stuff | 05:56 |
| siretart | \sh: woah. thats fast! :) | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | so hopefully i can do some work on this glu stuff and get to be a member, etc and become a motu, thats my plan anyway :) | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | i'll hack through those packages over the next few days, anyone else who wants to help is welcome | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | siretart: should i upload them to revu? | 05:57 |
| \sh | siretart: said my ex-wife all the time ,-) | 05:57 |
| siretart | lol | 05:58 |
| siretart | Lathiat: hm. We agreed earlier that transition stuff should not go to revu but be provided as debdiff patches | 05:58 |
| Lathiat | siretart: right | 05:59 |
| Lathiat | oops i messed that page up | 05:59 |
| siretart | Lathiat: so it's same work. place your debdiff patches to some webspace, and I'll happily review them (and upload them in your name) | 05:59 |
| Lathiat | siretart: righto | 06:00 |
| Lathiat | now the only issue is | 06:00 |
| Lathiat | libglu1-xorg-dev is th enew canonical package | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | but xlibmesa-glu-dev still works | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | so for most packages, a rebuild would suffice | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | but updating to libglu1-xorg-dev wouldnt hurt | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | what would be preferred | 06:01 |
| siretart | Lathiat: If I understood #ubuntu-devel correctly, build depending on a virtual package cause work for the buildd admins | 06:03 |
| Lathiat | come again? | 06:03 |
| Lathiat | so i should make it libglu1-xorg-dev? | 06:03 |
| siretart | Lathiat: and just image if a debian user (or a user from a debian derived distribution) wants to build the sourcepackage. he will thank you :) | 06:04 |
| Lathiat | siretart: thank me if i do what? ;p | 06:04 |
| === Lathiat is confused | ||
| siretart | argl | 06:04 |
| siretart | sorry. me is at work, and multitasking is hard :p | 06:05 |
| Lathiat | haha | 06:05 |
| siretart | Lathiat: he will thank you for not to tight build dependencies | 06:06 |
| siretart | not too tight, even | 06:06 |
| === Lathiat blah | ||
| Lathiat | im stupid | 06:07 |
| Lathiat | it all makes no sense ;p | 06:07 |
| siretart | Lathiat: has the libgl renamed, too? (in addition to the libglu transition?) how about glut? | 06:07 |
| Lathiat | siretart: no libgl is fine | 06:07 |
| Lathiat | no idea ablut glut | 06:07 |
| siretart | will be fine, too, i think.. | 06:07 |
| Lathiat | yeh its ifine | 06:08 |
| siretart | I heard that glut isn't that used in these days of sdl anymore | 06:08 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 06:08 |
| Lathiat | its used by a few things | 06:08 |
| Lathiat | not alot | 06:08 |
| Lathiat | siretart: so | 06:09 |
| Lathiat | to qual my confusion | 06:09 |
| Lathiat | what should i do | 06:09 |
| Lathiat | b-d on xlibmesa-glu-dev or libglu1-xorg-dev | 06:09 |
| siretart | Lathiat: do you have some webspace where you can put the debdiffs? | 06:09 |
| Lathiat | siretart: yep | 06:09 |
| siretart | great. I'd suggest linking from the wiki page, so I can pick them up | 06:10 |
| siretart | hm. for the dependencies | 06:10 |
| Lathiat | daniels said "sure" | 06:10 |
| Lathiat | but i dunno if that means anything | 06:10 |
| siretart | I'm not really 100% sure about the build dependencies | 06:12 |
| siretart | Lathiat: I'd like to look at my breezy chroot and reinvistigate the packages and the provides of them | 06:13 |
| siretart | but only in a few hours when I get home | 06:13 |
| Lathiat | ok | 06:14 |
| Lathiat | whoah | 06:14 |
| Lathiat | i just tried battle of wesnoth | 06:14 |
| Lathiat | that is totally cool | 06:14 |
| Lathiat | siretart: because i wont be around | 06:14 |
| siretart | Lathiat: I think that the alternatives in the build dependencies are required, and the first one must not be a virtual package | 06:14 |
| Lathiat | basically xlibmesa-glu-dev will work | 06:15 |
| siretart | same for package dependencies | 06:15 |
| Lathiat | libxorg1-glu-dev is what it really is | 06:15 |
| Lathiat | so say | 06:15 |
| Lathiat | libxorg1-glu-dev | xlibmesa-glu-dev ? | 06:15 |
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| siretart | Lathiat: you tried in pbuilder right? sbuild has another dependency resolution algorithm :/ | 06:15 |
| Lathiat | nah not yet | 06:15 |
| Lathiat | im just going on what daniels said so far | 06:15 |
| siretart | I'd like to investigate the situation at home myself and will ask then an xorg guru for confirmation | 06:16 |
| Lathiat | ok | 06:17 |
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| \sh | ah mez..missing link to backports :) | 06:25 |
| Mez | ...? | 06:28 |
| Mez | sup \sh? | 06:29 |
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| jinty | hoi, anyone around to port python-sqlobject to python2.4? right now it is uninstallable. Should be trivial. | 07:08 |
| jinty | I could do a patch if necessary | 07:09 |
| ogra | jinty, do it :) | 07:11 |
| jinty | cool, thanks:) | 07:13 |
| \sh | jinty: no u should do it :) | 07:16 |
| comadreja | hey, why could this happen ? | 07:18 |
| comadreja | jorge@patrogli:~/prog/ubuntu/drqueue$ debdiff drqueue_0.60.0-1build1.dsc drqueue_0.61.4-1.dsc | 07:18 |
| comadreja | diff: /tmp/BzMO741oRS//home/jorge/prog/ubuntu/drqueue/drqueue_0.60.0-1build1.diff.gz: No such file or directory | 07:18 |
| comadreja | diff: /tmp/GMoTPIqQL7//home/jorge/prog/ubuntu/drqueue/drqueue_0.61.4-1.diff.gz: No such file or directory | 07:18 |
| \sh | new upstream | 07:28 |
| \sh | for that u do a source upload :) | 07:29 |
| comadreja | well, I was just fixing something for the debian maintainer | 07:30 |
| comadreja | also included new upstream | 07:30 |
| comadreja | but I'll send him the debdiff | 07:30 |
| comadreja | if I make it work :D | 07:30 |
| \sh | no...send him the .orig.tar.gz and dsc | 07:31 |
| \sh | and only the resulting diff.gz | 07:31 |
| \sh | not the debdiff | 07:31 |
| comadreja | ok, cool | 07:31 |
| comadreja | I'll do | 07:31 |
| comadreja | thanks :) | 07:31 |
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| siretart | hi | 08:06 |
| siretart | Lathiat: ping | 08:06 |
| Lathiat | siretart: pong | 08:06 |
| siretart | Lathiat: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition - please review | 08:07 |
| Lathiat | siretart: looks good | 08:08 |
| siretart | Lathiat: Now I see that you already contacted daniels. | 08:09 |
| siretart | the builddepends seem to look fine. so I'd say. Let's start :) | 08:09 |
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| siretart | hi ogra | 08:09 |
| ogra | hey | 08:09 |
| Lathiat | bah | 08:10 |
| siretart | Lathiat: btw, I added MOTUGLUTransition and your name to MOTUGames ;) | 08:10 |
| Lathiat | my pbuilder wont create for hoary or breezy | 08:10 |
| Lathiat | siretart: cool :) | 08:10 |
| comadreja | Lathiat : my pbuilder neither, I filed a bug | 08:11 |
| Lathiat | damnit | 08:11 |
| Lathiat | that makes things annoying | 08:11 |
| Lathiat | cant test this crap | 08:11 |
| comadreja | indeed | 08:11 |
| === Lathiat grumbles | ||
| Lathiat | who wants to upload their base.tgz? :) | 08:11 |
| Lathiat | i.e. who is on a phat pipe ;p | 08:11 |
| === siretart only has a rather small upstream pipe.. | ||
| siretart | can you create a sarge pbuilder even? | 08:12 |
| Lathiat | didnt try | 08:12 |
| Lathiat | hrm | 08:12 |
| siretart | perhaps you can upgrade from sarge to breezy. for a pbuilder chroot, it should be fine | 08:12 |
| Lathiat | how can i like | 08:12 |
| Lathiat | apt-get build-dep for a package not in my package lists | 08:12 |
| Lathiat | or cant i? | 08:12 |
| comadreja | I think you can install a package not in yoru package list with aptitude | 08:13 |
| comadreja | then you could build-dep, right ? | 08:13 |
| Lathiat | yeh but the problem is | 08:13 |
| Lathiat | i need to build it first :P | 08:13 |
| === Lathiat just attempts to manually resolve it | ||
| seth_k | I'll upload my base.tgz if you like, should only take about 45 minutes | 08:13 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: thatd be nice | 08:13 |
| jamessan|work | Lathiat: you can use dpkg-checkbuilddeps to what build dependencies you're missing | 08:13 |
| seth_k | okay, here it goes :) | 08:13 |
| siretart | Lathiat: run /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends when you are inside your sourcepackage | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | yeh but that gives me | thingies | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | and apt-get install wont take that :) | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | siretart: ahah | 08:14 |
| siretart | as root, works only if the pbuilder package is installed | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | yep, thanks | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | bah | 08:14 |
| seth_k | still want that base Lathiat? | 08:14 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: yes please | 08:14 |
| seth_k | ok :) 34:48 remaining | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | my custom totem packages are hurting things | 08:15 |
| === Lathiat fixes | ||
| Lathiat | 1.1.3 is sexy | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 08:15 |
| Lathiat | libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: aalib1-dev but it is not installable | 08:15 |
| === Lathiat sighs | ||
| Lathiat | cant build bzflag now because of that | 08:15 |
| === Lathiat hurts things | ||
| === siretart looks into aalib | ||
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| seth_k | is http://packages.debian.org/screem a good candidate for MOTUToSync? 12.1-1ubuntu3 in Breezy | 08:16 |
| siretart | Lathiat: aalib was renamed to libaa | 08:16 |
| Lathiat | siretart: right | 08:16 |
| Lathiat | siretart: and sdl needs love | 08:16 |
| Lathiat | hmm | 08:17 |
| Lathiat | i dont see a libaa tho | 08:17 |
| === Lathiat apt-get updates | ||
| Lathiat | bah | 08:18 |
| Lathiat | this is goign to break half of these games | 08:18 |
| === Lathiat wonders how to identify non-dsl but glu using games | ||
| siretart | about 39 packages I heard | 08:18 |
| Lathiat | *non-sdl | 08:19 |
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| Lathiat | apt-cache rdepends libsdl1.2debian|wc -l = 227 :) | 08:19 |
| Lathiat | so indirectly, alot more :) | 08:19 |
| siretart | :/ | 08:20 |
| === Lathiat generates a list | ||
| siretart | Lathiat: have you already read this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/07/msg00295.html | 08:22 |
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| Lathiat | right | 08:22 |
| === Lathiat updates the page | ||
| siretart | damn. debian still hasn't updated libsdl1.2 :/ | 08:24 |
| siretart | Lathiat: comadreja could it be that you both suffer because of this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315561 | 08:25 |
| Lathiat | updated MOTUGLUTransition, marked packages that wont build until libsdl is fixed | 08:27 |
| Lathiat | so people can not bother with them for the minute | 08:27 |
| siretart | thanks | 08:27 |
| siretart | hm. libsdl needs merging anyway.. lets see | 08:28 |
| Lathiat | hmm | 08:28 |
| Lathiat | xmakemol doesnt seem to actually depend on xlibmesa-glu | 08:28 |
| siretart | and after all. libsdl is in main. hooray :) | 08:28 |
| Lathiat | oh, xmakemol-gl does | 08:29 |
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| jinty | interesting a python 2.4 sqlobject source package is in the archive, but no binary packages... | 08:32 |
| siretart | jinty: perhaps they FTBFS? | 08:33 |
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| herve | hello | 08:35 |
| bddebian | Heya herve | 08:37 |
| Lathiat | ok | 08:39 |
| Lathiat | ive tried to fill out what packages need other help as much as possible | 08:39 |
| herve | those of you who got their X broken, raise your hand ;-) | 08:39 |
| Lathiat | haha | 08:39 |
| Lathiat | yes | 08:39 |
| Lathiat | do you need to know the fix? | 08:39 |
| Lathiat | -39 is in the buildds atm | 08:39 |
| herve | found, hence I'm here :-) | 08:39 |
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| Lathiat | :) | 08:40 |
| herve | the good of xorg being modularized | 08:41 |
| herve | is that daniels spends less time testing and buildds compiling the fixes! | 08:41 |
| Lathiat | well, its still in one big source package | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | i don't envy his job 1 bit | 08:42 |
| siretart | Lathiat: this aalib/sdllib is going to be harder than I thought. I'm filing an bugzille report atm | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | siretart: ok | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | well, im not goign to work on this stuff till tomorrow | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | when i do, i'll do the one that dont require other love first | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | then i'll try fix the ones that do | 08:43 |
| Lathiat | alot of its leftover cxx transition stuff | 08:43 |
| seth_k | blah, the Xorg stuff is breaking all my builds | 08:51 |
| === seth_k goes hunting after libXrender.la | ||
| Lathiat | heh | 08:51 |
| herve | seth_k, libxrender-dev ;-) | 08:52 |
| seth_k | oh, I know it's SUPPOSED to be there | 08:52 |
| seth_k | :P | 08:52 |
| seth_k | methinks this package just looks for it in the wrong path | 08:52 |
| seth_k | Lathiat: http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/breezy/ :) | 08:53 |
| Lathiat | thanks seth_k :) | 08:53 |
| siretart | Lathiat: bug filed, it is #12673 | 08:54 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: 8 minutes to go :P | 08:54 |
| seth_k | :P | 08:54 |
| seth_k | Lathiat, make sure and run a sudo pbuilder update on that, not sure if I uploaded before I updated or vice-versa | 08:54 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 08:55 |
| Lathiat | cool | 08:55 |
| Lathiat | thanks | 08:55 |
| \sh | sorry...i'm not able to work today anything...:( i just had a bad experience just now...my mood is blue | 08:55 |
| siretart | \sh_away: :( | 08:56 |
| ivoks | naive package :) | 09:00 |
| siretart | ivoks: your current wifi-radar is native. if you don't have time right now, I can prepare an upload for you | 09:00 |
| siretart | not naive, native! | 09:00 |
| siretart | :) | 09:01 |
| ivoks | i know, it was a joke :) | 09:01 |
| siretart | ah. ok | 09:01 |
| siretart | :) | 09:01 |
| ivoks | ok, i don't understand this.. | 09:01 |
| ivoks | native means that it isn't in debian? | 09:01 |
| siretart | native means, there is no .diff.gz. everything is in tar.gz | 09:02 |
| siretart | it is introduced for packages with no real upstream and are written exclusivly for debian | 09:02 |
| herve | it means debian work and upstream work are the same | 09:02 |
| herve | because the package/software is designed for debian | 09:02 |
| ivoks | khm... | 09:02 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: remind me where that file goes? | 09:02 |
| Lathiat | is it just /var/cache/pbuilder ? | 09:03 |
| ivoks | man, siretart... it would be best if we never meet :) | 09:03 |
| Lathiat | ah, got it | 09:03 |
| ivoks | i know it would be a problem, but, quoting: | 09:03 |
| seth_k | /var/cache/pbuilder, yep | 09:03 |
| ivoks | and, please do sourceful only uploads with orig tar.gz (dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa) | 09:03 |
| ivoks | end qoute :) | 09:03 |
| ivoks | siretart: it isn't a problem, i'll upload new one | 09:04 |
| ivoks | siretart: with same revision | 09:04 |
| siretart | sorry for the trouble. my english sucks :( | 09:04 |
| siretart | ivoks: :) | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: thanks, working a treat | 09:06 |
| seth_k | Lathiat: yay, glad I could help you | 09:06 |
| seth_k | back to libXrender | 09:06 |
| seth_k | which sucks | 09:06 |
| seth_k | :D | 09:06 |
| Lathiat | heh | 09:07 |
| ivoks | ok, i need some help | 09:09 |
| ivoks | how should i upload with dput? | 09:09 |
| bddebian | Don't we all :-) | 09:09 |
| Lathiat | ivoks: with great difficulty | 09:09 |
| ivoks | if i try to upload .changes | 09:09 |
| ivoks | it tries to upload .deb | 09:09 |
| ivoks | and we don't want that, right? | 09:09 |
| ivoks | or we do? | 09:09 |
| Lathiat | man dput | 09:09 |
| Lathiat | see if theres a source option | 09:09 |
| ogra | ivoks, you need to upload _source.changes | 09:10 |
| Lathiat | ah | 09:10 |
| ivoks | khm.. | 09:10 |
| ogra | :) | 09:10 |
| ivoks | and i create that with dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa | 09:10 |
| ivoks | ? | 09:10 |
| ogra | yes | 09:10 |
| siretart | right! | 09:10 |
| ivoks | ok... | 09:10 |
| ivoks | so that's bad either, siretart says :) | 09:10 |
| ogra | -sa only if you want to include orig.tar.gz | 09:10 |
| ogra | i.e. for a new upstream version | 09:11 |
| ogra | else -S is enough | 09:11 |
| siretart | for revu, its better to include orig.tar.gz for having the complete sourcepackage available | 09:11 |
| ogra | yep | 09:11 |
| ivoks | ok, i did that | 09:11 |
| ivoks | but siretart said " native package :(" | 09:11 |
| ivoks | so, i'm lost now.. | 09:11 |
| siretart | ivoks: does your *_source.changes refer to a .diff.gz file? | 09:12 |
| ivoks | no | 09:13 |
| ivoks | only .dsc and .tar.gz | 09:13 |
| siretart | ivoks: place the orig.tar.gz in that directory | 09:13 |
| ivoks | ah... that's the problem... | 09:13 |
| siretart | make sure there is a "_" instead of a '-' in front of the version number | 09:13 |
| siretart | and retry | 09:13 |
| ivoks | ok.. | 09:15 |
| ivoks | now it's ok.. | 09:15 |
| ivoks | i downloaded new upstream, forgot to prepare .orig.tar.gz | 09:15 |
| ivoks | sorry guys | 09:15 |
| siretart | new upstream version? | 09:15 |
| ivoks | yes | 09:15 |
| siretart | ivoks: while you are at it.. | 09:16 |
| ivoks | ah.. | 09:16 |
| siretart | ivoks: just a though, I think it would be reasonable for upstream consumption to split the madwifi patch into 2 patches | 09:16 |
| ivoks | i wanted to ask you, what problems does dhcp fun creates? | 09:16 |
| ivoks | siretart: upstream allready has patches | 09:16 |
| siretart | one for the madwifi fix, and one for the locale fix | 09:16 |
| siretart | ivoks: ah, even better! :) | 09:17 |
| ivoks | Checksum doesn't match for /home/ivoks/dcc/wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu3.dsc | 09:17 |
| ivoks | oh, my god... | 09:17 |
| siretart | ivoks: the dhcp fun prohibits that the user can set his wifi device to anything else than eth1 | 09:17 |
| ivoks | siretart: it doesn't | 09:17 |
| ivoks | siretart: program reads wifi-radar.conf | 09:17 |
| ivoks | and replaces INTERFACE with what's in that file | 09:18 |
| siretart | ivoks: the program yes, but not the part labeled with 'dhcp fun' | 09:18 |
| ivoks | siretart: it's irrelevant | 09:18 |
| ivoks | siretart: i have eth2 | 09:18 |
| ivoks | and it works without problems | 09:18 |
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| siretart | ivoks: sorry, the latest version I got from you got iwlist from ath0 (from config file), but started dhclient with -q eth1 | 09:19 |
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| siretart | I had to fix it in /usr/sbin/wifi-radar | 09:19 |
| ivoks | ok, this is funny | 09:19 |
| ivoks | i8600 dhclient: eth1: unknown hardware address type 24 | 09:19 |
| ivoks | i8600 dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 | 09:19 |
| ivoks | you have a point here.. | 09:19 |
| ivoks | let's take a look | 09:20 |
| siretart | ivoks: look at line 49 | 09:20 |
| ivoks | ok | 09:20 |
| siretart | ivoks: it unconditionally runs at startup before the configfile is read | 09:20 |
| siretart | the for loop that is | 09:20 |
| ivoks | ok, that could be fixed | 09:21 |
| ivoks | greping interface from wifi-radar.conf | 09:21 |
| siretart | ivoks: what if wifi-radar.conf does not exist yet? I think that look should 'just' be run later, after reading the config file | 09:22 |
| ivoks | .conf is created with postinst | 09:22 |
| siretart | and perhaps be put in an method of its own | 09:22 |
| siretart | ivoks: but could be deleted be the user | 09:23 |
| ivoks | siretart: then wifi-radar wouldn't even start | 09:23 |
| siretart | ivoks: if no config file exists, wifi-radar will create one for me | 09:23 |
| ivoks | he likes you :) | 09:23 |
| siretart | :) | 09:23 |
| ivoks | if he only knew how you are bugging me... :)) | 09:24 |
| ivoks | but you got a point here.. | 09:24 |
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| ivoks | i should drop that patch | 09:24 |
| ivoks | and use dhclient | 09:24 |
| ivoks | cause it comes with ubuntu | 09:24 |
| ivoks | could this wait for september? | 09:25 |
| ivoks | i'm going in dubrovnik this weekend and i'm planin not to work there :) | 09:25 |
| siretart | hehe.. | 09:26 |
| siretart | I'll try to improve that patch | 09:26 |
| siretart | I'd suggest upload it to revu without the patch, and I'll see if I can improve it | 09:26 |
| ivoks | ok | 09:26 |
| ivoks | accutally, i was thinking of learning python while on sea side | 09:27 |
| ivoks | even writing my own pygtk program | 09:27 |
| siretart | :) | 09:27 |
| ivoks | don't laugh... | 09:28 |
| ivoks | i allredy have buttons "backup" and "cancel" :) | 09:28 |
| dredg | python is shockingly easy to pick up | 09:28 |
| ivoks | i even have file chooser to choose file for backup :) | 09:28 |
| ivoks | dredg: yes, it is | 09:28 |
| ivoks | ok, siretart i'll upload ubuntu4 | 09:29 |
| ivoks | and we will see about ubuntu5 | 09:29 |
| ivoks | hell, i wont upload anything now :) | 09:29 |
| ivoks | tomorrow | 09:29 |
| siretart | ivoks: if you upload a new upstream revision, you could restart at -0ubuntu1 | 09:30 |
| ivoks | siretart: i did :) | 09:30 |
| siretart | oh | 09:30 |
| seth_k | okay, so I get a /usr/lib/libXrender.a but no libXrender.la. Any ideas? | 09:30 |
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| ivoks | bye all | 09:32 |
| ivoks | see you tomorrow | 09:32 |
| ivoks | thanks for help about package | 09:32 |
| ivoks | s/about/with/ | 09:32 |
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| pef | I'm writing a manpage for a program I'm packaging, but english is not my native language, someone can check it for language correction ? http://dl.erodia.net/ubuntu/coccinella.1.html thanks ! | 09:45 |
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| dredg | pef: it reads ok. there are a couple of sentences that i don't like, but i can't think of a better way of wording them | 09:48 |
| pef | dredg: that's hard to tell a lot of things in a small manuel :) | 09:51 |
| dredg | :) | 09:51 |
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| seth_k | dredg: want me to diff out my suggested grammar changes? | 10:07 |
| dredg | seth_k: hmm? | 10:07 |
| seth_k | er sorry, it's pef that is doing it. My bad | 10:07 |
| dredg | ah :) | 10:07 |
| seth_k | you responded to him and I keyed off that | 10:07 |
| pef | seth_k: I've received corrections from Riddell, I think it's ok, but I will upload the new version to get your advices :) | 10:08 |
| seth_k | oh okay, no worries :) | 10:08 |
| pef | seth_k: http://dl.erodia.net/ubuntu/coccinella.1.html | 10:11 |
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| antoranz | Hi everyboy! | 10:12 |
| antoranz | Is there anybody awake here? I want to get some help with squid+multipath routing | 10:12 |
| seth_k | Its system of extensions allows coccinella to be easily extended, for now you have => coccinella's system of extensions allows it to be easily extended. Currently it supports | 10:13 |
| seth_k | This manual page documents briefly the coccinella command. => This manual page briefly documents the coccinella program. | 10:13 |
| seth_k | The peer-to-peer mode allows client to connect => The peer-to-peer mode allows clients to connect | 10:14 |
| seth_k | Other than that it looks good, your english is very good :) | 10:15 |
| pef | seth_k: thanks ;) | 10:15 |
| siretart | antoranz: this channel is rather abount maintaining the universe component of ubuntu. I wouldn't expect user help here. better try #ubuntu or the ubuntu-users mailing list | 10:16 |
| antoranz | oh oh.... I see | 10:17 |
| antoranz | ok, man... thanks! | 10:17 |
| siretart | and for me, honestly, I used squid, but never heard about multipath routing | 10:17 |
| antoranz | really? It's when you are using a single route.... but made of more than one path | 10:18 |
| dredg | ugh | 10:18 |
| antoranz | it's a iproute2 feature | 10:18 |
| dredg | use a proper routing protocol :) | 10:18 |
| antoranz | I'm all ears. ;) | 10:19 |
| siretart | antoranz: I so your problem has probably nothing to do with squid itself.. i see. | 10:19 |
| siretart | antoranz: I'd suggest setting up routes with ip route add ... (look up documentation) or setting up something like routed or zebra or anythink like that | 10:20 |
| antoranz | oh... I have already set the multipath route.. that's not the problem. ;) | 10:20 |
| antoranz | the problem is that after I set the multipath route, squid doesn't want to work anymore | 10:21 |
| siretart | hm. perhaps try #squid? | 10:21 |
| siretart | if that channel exist | 10:21 |
| dredg | antoranz: ask diamond when he's around next | 10:21 |
| antoranz | :D let me take a look. ;) | 10:21 |
| dredg | he does insane things with 2 internet links | 10:21 |
| dredg | squid is involved i think | 10:21 |
| dredg | though he might have replaced it with apache's mod_proxy | 10:22 |
| antoranz | There's n squid channel! | 10:22 |
| siretart | hey, you're lucky :) | 10:22 |
| dredg | personally i'd just use ospf | 10:22 |
| dredg | but that's just me :) | 10:22 |
| antoranz | ok.... let me write it down so I can check documentation | 10:22 |
| antoranz | ospf | 10:23 |
| antoranz | zebra routed, right? | 10:23 |
| dredg | it's in quagga, yes | 10:23 |
| siretart | quagga was the successor, thanks! | 10:23 |
| dredg | though i usually use a bunch of ciscos | 10:23 |
| dredg | zebra is still being maintained | 10:24 |
| antoranz | well... The problem is that the linux box is directly connected to three internet connections | 10:24 |
| dredg | quagga is better i'm told :) i have to say that or i'll get beaten up by paul :) | 10:25 |
| siretart | paul? sladen? | 10:26 |
| dredg | paul jakma | 10:26 |
| dredg | quagga developer | 10:26 |
| siretart | ah. i see | 10:26 |
| dredg | i think he forked it originally actually. | 10:27 |
| dredg | but he's fairly insane | 10:27 |
| siretart | I heard so | 10:28 |
| antoranz | my god.. they're all asleep at the squid forum | 10:29 |
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| antoranz | and so are you | 10:30 |
| antoranz | well.. thanks for your help anyway! :) | 10:30 |
| antoranz | take care! | 10:30 |
| dredg | bye | 10:30 |
| siretart | bye antoranz | 10:30 |
| antoranz | Buy! :) | 10:30 |
| antoranz | ;) | 10:31 |
| siretart | what? ;) | 10:31 |
| siretart | hehe | 10:31 |
| bddebian | Am I missing what a backport is? It was my understanding that a backport was a package that was built on say Breezy, then "backported" back to say Hoary?? | 10:34 |
| siretart | bddebian: in principle yes, although there are many special cases involved there | 10:34 |
| bddebian | Hmm, OK | 10:35 |
| siretart | does anyone know about wxwidgets2.4 breackage in breezy? | 10:41 |
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| jinty | siretart: re sqlobject - thanks, I'll figure it out when I have some time | 10:43 |
| jinty | cheers! | 10:43 |
| siretart | :) | 10:43 |
| herve | night! | 10:54 |
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| pef | does dh_make handle bzip2 ? I have bzip2 installed and he tells me "Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, <STDIN> line 2." | 11:17 |
| pef | oh, I've found a bug :D | 11:23 |
| pef | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314875 | 11:28 |
| JanC | <siretart> does anyone know about wxwidgets2.4 breackage in breezy? | 11:34 |
| JanC | not that I know of | 11:34 |
| JanC | audacity & poEdit seem to run fine ? | 11:34 |
| siretart | JanC: amule does not built anymore | 11:35 |
| JanC | & wxPython2.4 example apps seem to run okay too | 11:35 |
| siretart | JanC: http://paste.debian.net/1170 | 11:35 |
| siretart | I'm not sure if thats related to wxwidgets anyway, was rather a random guess | 11:36 |
| JanC | ah build problems :) | 11:36 |
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| siretart | hi sistpoty | 11:36 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart | 11:36 |
| JanC | to me it looks like the problem is in amule but I have no experience with C++ or g++ output... | 11:39 |
| JanC | it seems to use gtk2 ? | 11:39 |
| siretart | forget it, CValueMap is indeed some internal class of amule | 11:40 |
| siretart | so most probably not wxwidgets related | 11:40 |
| JanC | wxgtk2.4 uses gtk1, and it also references some gtk2 stuff ? | 11:41 |
| siretart | I maintain a wxpython game using wxgtk2.4 and having a gtk2 look | 11:41 |
| JanC | wxgtk2.4 can be built against gtk2 I guess, but the libraries in ubuntu are gtk1 | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | what r u talking about? | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | trying to fix amule? | 11:43 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yes, I'm on it | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | k | 11:43 |
| siretart | sistpoty: but it comes to an really ugly linker error: http://paste.debian.net/1170 | 11:44 |
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| Lathiat | nice error | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | hm... this is the copy-c'tor of CValueMap? | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | looks nasty! | 11:45 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yes. CValuemal is declared in src/ETSpecialTags.h | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | hm... i'll take a look ;) | 11:46 |
| siretart | without copy c'tor, but c++ should provide a default one | 11:46 |
| sistpoty | siretart: yes, it should... let's hope this is no gcc bug ;) | 11:46 |
| siretart | I don't think so | 11:47 |
| sistpoty | phew... i need a faster machine... it compiles and compiles :/ | 11:57 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 11:57 |
| sistpoty | hi ajmitch | 11:58 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yeah, It took a fair amount of time here as well | 11:58 |
| pef | siretart: why don't you have submit your pong2 packages to revu ? (http://tauware.de/content/view/20/52/) | 11:59 |
| siretart | pef: they are already in debian and ubuntu ;) | 11:59 |
| pef | siretart: mmm I need sleeping :] | 12:00 |
| pef | sorry | 12:00 |
| siretart | sorry, need sleep | 12:03 |
| siretart | gn8 folks! | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | night siretart | 12:04 |
| sistpoty | gn8 siretart | 12:04 |
| SloMoSnail | gn8 siretart | 12:05 |
| pef | gn8 siretart | 12:07 |
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