=== ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0153.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] siretart: ping [12:03] ah hi ivoks! [12:03] finally :) [12:03] hi ivoks [12:04] hi ivoks [12:04] hi all [12:04] siretart: i have seen typo [12:04] but i don't understand why should it be 0ubuntu1 [12:04] this package is used by quite of people... [12:04] ivoks: you mean IWCONFIG instead of ICONFIG? ;) [12:05] yeah... [12:05] IFCONFIG [12:05] ivoks: I put this comment in revu [12:05] ivoks: it has to be lower than anything that might go into debian [12:05] ajmitch: it is [12:05] 0ubuntu1 [12:05] 0ubuntu7 [12:05] same thing when debian is -1 [12:05] ivoks: the thing is, that if wifi-radar -1 gets into breezy, we can sync it from debian. we cannot if its 1ubuntu1 or higher [12:05] ivoks: but you said you didn't understand why it should be -0ubuntu1 :) [12:06] ajmitch: yes, cause now it's 0ubuntu4 [12:06] ivoks: right, I don't see a problem with that [12:06] siretart: it's 0ubuntu4 :) [12:06] automagical removal of packages is AWESOME [12:06] ivoks: we agreed on this procedure some time ago. it is to make live for the archive scripts easier, [12:06] ivoks: ah, hm. ic [12:06] imho, as along as it is 0ubuntuX, it is fine [12:07] doh... soo too much fuss for nothing :) [12:07] dholbach: how do you think about this? can we have a 0ubunut4 as initial revision in the archive? [12:07] why not? [12:07] not nice [12:07] but ok [12:07] dholbach: fine by me - it happens at times in debian [12:07] could you help me a bit ? I'm taking a look at alexandria, because of these unmetdep [12:08] and it depends on lib-ruby > 0.12 [12:08] available only is...0.11.0-1ubuntu1 [12:09] so, I have to change that 0.12.0 for 0.11.0-1ubuntu1 ? [12:09] lol [12:09] or 0.11.0-1 ? [12:09] W: wifi-radar; Maintainer script prerm uses debhelper, but does not use #DEBHELPER#. [12:09] rm is debhelper? :) [12:09] ivoks: see debhelper(7) [12:10] siretart : ? [12:11] comadreja: i'm sure there is a reason why it depends on .12 [12:11] then how is that fixed ? [12:12] upgrading lib*-ruby ? [12:12] right [12:12] but that has to be done by the maintainer, right ? [12:13] right [12:13] and breezy is frozen [12:13] so, what should I do regarding that ? [12:13] if that lib is from main, then you are out of luck :( [12:13] universe, one, but there are four [12:14] comadreja: sorry, I will have a closer look later (maybe even tomorrow) at alexandria. I noted it on my list [12:14] ok, i found few very nasty bugs in hoary installer [12:14] i gaved hoary to a frined of mine to install it [12:15] good night [12:15] 'night [12:15] siretart,ivoks : thanks [12:15] dholbach : nite === ajmitch ought to do some work today :) === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-38.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] could some java guru please make freemind compile with gcj ? kthnxbye [12:25] ogra: Call me in a week. [12:26] jbailey, you think you can ?? o_O [12:26] ogra: Wrestling with eclipse first. =) [12:26] jbailey: was my subversion patch to sourcepackage helpful? [12:26] AWESOME !! i didnt think it was possible [12:26] ogra: I haven't asserted that anything's possible or impossible. [12:26] hi jeff :) [12:26] G'm Andrew [12:27] siretart: Lemme look at that now. A nice easy patch to something sounds lovely to look at. [12:27] jbailey, but demoting your time to it makes it a bit more possible for me to include it in the edubuntu default install ;) [12:27] ogra: Dude, you're being evil. =) [12:27] s/possible/likely [12:27] looks like planet ubuntu became planet riddell today === \sh is correcting the list of dholbach [12:27] \sh: which list? [12:27] ogra: You know that if you need it for edubuntu that I'll give it more time. =) [12:28] jbailey, i dont *need* it, but its obviously the best tool for the job [12:28] <\sh> UniverseUnmetDeps [12:28] ah [12:28] siretart: This is bug 6096, right? [12:29] I don't see a patch on it. [12:29] Or do you means the one Wolfgang? [12:29] jbailey: I hoped that debzilla will import my comment from the debian bts [12:29] Was it bug 271125 ? [12:29] jbailey: I sent the patch to debian bts with CC: to you, wait I'll look up the bug# [12:30] subject "patch for sourcepackage" [12:30] I have it in my email. [12:30] exactly [12:30] Err. includes patches to g++-4.0? === jbailey phears. [12:31] for compiling with g++-4.0 [12:31] lol [12:31] no patching of it. sorry for my bad english :( [12:31] No worries. =) [12:31] <\sh> english? patch is not english ,-) [12:31] :) [12:32] <\sh> and ok..one more build then gf ,-) [12:33] siretart: Tell you what. I have to work on the Java Packaging Policy tomorrow anyway. I'll make sure this is all setup tocomply and get this done. Will you poke me if I don't mention it? =) [12:33] yay, finally new gnue prereleases :) [12:33] <\sh> damn [12:33] jbailey: Perfect! will do :) [12:34] <\sh> gfccore [12:34] <\sh> cxx trans [12:35] \sh: hmm? [12:35] gnue? Wow. Haven't thought about that in ages. =) [12:35] \sh: yeah, sorry about that one :) [12:35] <\sh> ajmitch: depends on libsigcc++2.0 [12:35] <\sh> ajmitch: depends on libsigcc++2.0c2 ,-) [12:36] \sh: and the problem is? [12:36] <\sh> shout i upload it as build1 or rename it. [12:36] jbailey: yeah, I thought they'd stopped working on it for awhile :) [12:37] \sh: rename it [12:37] <\sh> looks like [12:37] jbailey: well I might have to do some debian work for a change then ;) [12:38] ajmitch: Just upload the Ubuntu version to Debian. =) [12:40] jbailey: but I'd have to get a UVF exception for breezy :) [12:40] easier to build them on the sid chroot, commit the changes to the bazaar archive I setup for them [12:41] ok, I'm for for bed then. [12:41] cu tomorrow, gn8 folks! [12:41] night siretart [12:41] gn8 siretart [12:42] ajmitch: You've caught the bazaar bug? =) [12:42] <\sh> yeah...gn8 to you all :) [12:42] gn8 \sh [12:42] <\sh> ogra: thx 4 upload :) cu tomorrow :) [12:42] <\sh> sistpoty: sleep well [12:42] ajmitch: Nightly bzr snapshots now at deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr ./ [12:42] =) [12:42] \sh_away, night [12:43] jbailey: yay! [12:44] gn8 all === sistpoty [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.232.143.NEFkom.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:49] this place is always so quiet once the europeans depart :) [12:53] yep [12:56] ajmitch : some of us are still here :) [12:57] btw, I need some help maybe one of you could do it [12:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps [12:57] do you know if those packages are hoary ? or breezy ? [12:57] breezy [12:57] we don't work on hoary anymore for things like that [12:58] does amsynth fail for you ? [12:58] it works here [12:58] comadreja: as the note at the top says, it was done an an adm64 [12:58] amd64 [12:59] and some packages need fixed for that platform [01:00] I see [01:00] I'll try another, everyone I've tried failed for some other reason or worked === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] yep [01:03] oops [01:05] ajmitch: that'll be the return of kdedevelopers.org then, tsk [01:05] Riddell: it disappeared? [01:05] ajmitch: malitiously cracked while all the developers were at the KDevelop conference [01:06] planet.kde.org is very broken, ach weel [01:06] nasty === marcoaurelio [~nobody@protem2.icmc.usp.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] nite folks === susus [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus_ [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus_ [~sz@p5089E384.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] mysql-query-browser needs an update from debian === terrex [~terrex@84-122-80-126.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] Mez: needs in what way? [01:54] Mez: it needs merged, by the look of things [01:55] last debian upload was 3 weeks ago === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] yeah ajmitch, I was looking through what we backported :D [01:58] and it needs merging down [01:58] as we backported from debian not breezy [01:58] ;) [01:58] fluxbox needs a manual merge too [01:59] we'll get round to it asap :) [01:59] yeah, I mean I'll prob rebuild them once I've finished this list :D === ajmitch needs to fix his merge script to use unstable's sources as of UVF [01:59] seeing as they work perfectly well in backports [02:00] ltsp too [02:01] right === ajmitch will bbl, time for lunch :) === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] where did unrar go in breezy? 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[02:35] so they released some new mountain dew 'health' drink but it's just moutain dew with caffeine [02:35] yeah === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] no reason to be there, unless you want to drink at 19 :P [02:36] (legally that is) === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] awake ? anybody ? === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pagefault_ [Eric@HSE-Montreal-ppp135269.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pfault [Eric@HSE-Montreal-ppp135361.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jc_c [~jc@ALamentin-101-1-10-41.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] hello === slomo [~slomo@p5487B9AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Codestorm [~timmy@203-217-89-226.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=3766 === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] morning [08:08] morning === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] 'morning [08:38] moin [08:38] evening [08:43] hi ivoks [08:43] hi [08:44] ivoks: are there any question left about wifi-radar? it went rather quick, yesterday.. [08:46] did I scare him? === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] hi === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] <\sh> morning guys === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-afk [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] hi \sh === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] <\sh> morning siretart === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-3915.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] morning === zanaga [ejabberd@62.183.242.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt20.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] who should i bug to get beagle as a package to malone and to get a bug re-assigned to that package? [10:25] zanaga: file a bug against malone to get beagle added [10:25] filing.. [10:26] oh neat, there are layout changes in launchpad ;) [10:30] I need a motu to review clanlib === SloMo_ [~slomo@vpn-imt21.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] Mez: pong ;) === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-117-036.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] slomo: you need to make it to next CC meeting :D [10:43] backports on the agenda [10:43] Mez: hehe ok, when is it? [10:44] Tue 19 July 14:00 UTC Community Council [10:44] they're diuscussing the backports team [10:46] hmm, i'll try... i have a lecture until 14:00 UTC but i'll leave it a bit earlier ;) [10:48] SloMo_: I'll hopefully have a string freeze coming up soon on Smeg, btw. [10:50] Amaranth: fine :) can you notify me then? btw, where can i get your latest sources? [10:50] you can't get them anywhere right now [10:53] If the orig tarball of a program is named weirdly (like foo-222-b) or isn't correct (no directory inside or only a foo, no foo-xx) what should I do ? [10:54] ok... well, i have to leave now... will be back in ~3 hours :) bye bye [10:56] pef: Fix it, I guess. [10:56] Amaranth: yes, but how ? [10:56] Um, retar it. [10:58] Amaranth: and just mention I have done this to debian.readme ? [10:58] *shrug* === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] I dunno how you're supposed to do it, I'm just telling you what I'd do. === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-088-252.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pc-n2.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zanaga [ejabberd@62.183.242.86] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === JRee [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487B9AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [~gazer@ADSL-216-244-238-245.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:ogra] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | hey, its bugday join #ubuntu-bugs ! === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-088-252.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hawk_78 [~hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat ponders petting openssi packages in ubuntu [11:37] whats the difference between using libgtkhtml3.8-dev and libgtkhtml-dev for a build-Depends ? [11:37] Lathiat: openssi? a free clone of irssi? [11:37] Treenaks: clustering stuff [11:37] Lathiat: (which is already free) [11:37] Treenaks: like mosix except [11:38] Treenaks: it all comes up as one virtual machine [11:38] rather than individual machiens running tasks [11:38] Lathiat: ooh, cool [11:38] require magic is in sarge === Lathiat looks at libgtkhtml-dev [11:38] it seems a little old [11:43] I need a motu to review clanlib [11:43] it's the library that breaks race [11:44] that is in the unmetdeps page === diarrhoe [~Cauchy@p54BD08CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] oh, my, my... [11:46] again changes in ligl-dev :( [11:47] libgl ? [11:47] heh [11:47] yeah.. [11:47] im waiting a bit [11:47] before i fix bzflag [11:47] daniels thinks after this upload it should be good [11:47] we had a discussion yesterday in -devel [11:47] let's see [11:47] i was too busy these days to check lists.. :( [11:47] as in irc [11:47] ah, irc... [11:48] too busy too :( [11:48] Removing capplets... doesn't sound good :( [11:50] nope :( [11:50] bzflag: Depends: xlibmesa-glu but it is not going to be installed [11:50] well, i've got the new 2.0 packages [11:51] but it ftbfs due to dep issues === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@d006144.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hmm, jsut as an FYI: mysql-query-browser needs merging from debian (and some wub) === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN`aw [~daniel@80-218-240-48.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-82-59.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-82-59.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] Lathiat: you discussed the libgl situation with daniels yesterday? [12:56] siretart: well, someone else did while i was there [12:57] Lathiat: if you have an overview, would you mind to set up a summary page about what dependencies for gl apps are recommended? === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN`aw is now known as DanielN === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pc-n2.wlan.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] morning [01:33] Lathiat: if you don't have time, I will do my best this evening.. === terrex [~terrex@84-122-82-59.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] jbailey: morning [01:43] Heya havoc [01:44] I have to convince some debian people to possibly use ubuntu [01:44] not quite sure how yet [01:44] not sure that I know enough about ubuntu to offer a compelling objective argument yet [01:46] ubuntu _is_ debian, just more userfriendly and ahead of time in some places.... you have a guaranteed release schedule and 18months of guaranteed support... [01:47] support from coninical? [01:47] (did I spell that right?) [01:47] <\sh> paid support from canonical [01:47] <\sh> community support from users [01:48] "user friendly" in what way(s)? [01:48] (vs. debian) [01:48] siretart: ping [01:48] better commandline disintegration [01:48] pef: pong [01:48] <\sh> put cd in, install, be happy that way of "user friendly" [01:49] <\sh> most of the things are working out of the box...especially on laptops :) [01:49] siretart: first, hello :) and can you explain me where I can be informated of the libaa transition you mentionned here http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=118 ? [01:49] so better installer, better "out-of-the-box" hardware support, better UI (Gnome/KDE) packaging? [01:49] havoc, also we ship stuff debian will never be able to ship... firmware in the restricted modules etc [01:50] ogra: ah, ok, so definitely better hardware support [01:50] pef: we decided yesterday that we will do the libaa -> aalib transition, will give an update (in form of an wikipage) this evening when I get home [01:50] i wouldnt say better to any software, since all components are the original debian ones... but configured more userfriendly [01:50] there aren't that many packages affected (39 packaged I heared yesterday) === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw [01:50] ogra, may I email you a cleaner icon tarball? [01:50] <\sh> havoc: and...Ubuntu has the MOTUs. We're the funny guys, with the funny name, and funny faces, doing funny things like helping people to package new soft...and we have our Ubuntu NUN [01:50] AndyFitz, YES ! [01:50] :-D === DanielN`aw is now known as DanielN [01:51] siretart: ok, I hope I can help you :) [01:51] havoc, our installer is nearly identical with the debian installer... they just use different defaults [01:51] :) [01:51] <\sh> ogra: sturmkind has a nice idea to help us recruiting MOTUs :) [01:52] ogra: ok [01:52] havoc, thats goes for most of the software... [01:52] \sh, great [01:52] ogra: *I* am already using it, I just need to be able to convince some others :) [01:53] I think the release schedule and the non-free hardware support will be the most compelling points [01:53] <\sh> ogra: u remember this US poster with the guy how said: "We Need You" for the US Army? I think we can release for breezy a poster with a badger on it, and point towards the people and write on it: "MOTU wants YOU" [01:53] lol [01:53] havoc, setting up a clean (with only one DE and good configured) debian desktop system takes me 4h at least, setting up a ubuntu box with the same target takes me less ten 30mins [01:53] <\sh> -how/+who === Mez wants to be a MOTU === Mez dances [01:54] \sh, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTURecruitment (my first MOTU wikipage ever) ;) [01:54] ogra: yeah, only took *me* (my first time) ~20min to get the base of my server installed [01:54] <\sh> ogra: put a badger on it ,-) [01:56] \sh, and whats for breezy+1 ? [01:56] note that breezy gets uninteresting for us once its released [01:56] (except MOTUSecurity indeed) [01:58] I wonder just how well ubuntu would work on my sony vaio laptop [02:00] how old ? [02:00] it works fine on my PCG-F707 [02:00] but thats 5 years old [02:01] it's a 505 series [02:02] never been able to get *all* the hardware working properly under linux [02:04] I need a motu to review clanlib [02:04] it's the library that breaks race [02:04] that is in the unmetdeps page [02:05] <\sh> ogra: codename for breezy +1? then we replace the badger with animal of breezy +1 ,-) [02:05] <\sh> clanlib? [02:05] \sh, no codename yet === havoc will be setting up 2 1.2TB netatalk ubuntu machines later this week [02:05] <\sh> is my name in? [02:06] \sh: Super Stephan ? [02:07] shiny \sh ? [02:07] \sh yes, name is libclanlib2c2 [02:07] <\sh> no..in clanlib [02:07] <\sh> comadreja: what's breaking? [02:08] ogra, all sent [02:08] AndyFitz, already here :) [02:08] <\sh> and I have to fix ajmitchs mistakes ,-) [02:08] \sh: I read somewhere it could be Perky Penguin [02:08] \sh it didn't install the libraries actualy [02:08] but I also like 'Angry Aakward' ;) [02:08] second email sent just for fun. ;) [02:08] heh === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] \sh just the docs, for libclan2-* [02:09] <\sh> comadreja: hmmm...give me 10 minutes... [02:09] \sh sure === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] siretart, it wont be perky and it wont be angry :) [02:10] <\sh> Lovely Backslash [02:10] heh === SloMoSnail [~slomo@131.234.209.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] breezy+1 will be the first with long term support, i think the name will reflect that... [02:11] <\sh> Howling Wolf ? [02:12] <\sh> wow...pbuilder on my xfs fs is quite fast [02:13] \sh, dont run out of diskspace ;) xfs gets a mess then [02:15] <\sh> ogra: hmmm..right [02:16] <\sh> but I hope someone sponsors me a 160GB internal 2.5" hd for the laptop here *eg* [02:17] \sh, rather take a HW RAID ;) with 2x 160GB ad striping [02:17] and [02:17] but i guess your case is to small for two HDs [02:17] \sh btw, the package race, was broken because of the libclanlib stuff [02:17] now it recompiles and installs perfectly [02:17] should I upload race too ? [02:18] <\sh> comadreja: libclanlib was transitioned [02:18] notice, that I haven't changed a line [02:18] <\sh> comadreja: what was the problem with "race" then...errormsg? [02:19] broken depends [02:19] <\sh> hu? [02:19] unmet depends [02:19] I mean, it wouldn't install [02:20] so you just need to trigger a rebuild [02:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps I found out it here [02:20] <\sh> comadreja: u mean apt-get install race is not installable, cause it has old dependencies [02:20] <\sh> thats why those apps are on this page ,-) [02:20] but with the updated libclanlib package [02:20] sure :D [02:21] I was working on that :) [02:21] that's why I checked the package [02:21] how do I trigger a rebuild ? [02:21] <\sh> so libclanlib wasn't breaking...only the binary deps were wrong of race.. [02:21] <\sh> comadreja: upload rights? [02:21] you just upload the unchanged package with a new version that containd -buildX [02:21] contains [02:22] yes, libclanlib was broken [02:22] (if it has no -ubuntuX revision) [02:22] <\sh> comadreja: ok...now why was libclanlib broken? [02:22] <\sh> wasn't it compiling? [02:22] yes, it compiled, but the packages it generated wouldn't include the libraries === diarrhoe [~Cauchy@p54BD08CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] [02:23] so afterwards race wouldn't compile [02:23] do you have libclanlib installed ? === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:24] <\sh> comadreja: no...i'm using pbuilder :) [02:24] if so, do a dpkg L libclan2-sound [02:24] then try to build race [02:25] I'll show you, I was working yesterday like 3 hours until I figured out the problem [02:26] hey ogra: what's up [02:26] hmm, i dont see a issue with clanlib here... seems fine [02:27] <\sh> it's ok for me as well [02:27] <\sh> pbuilder doesn't complain about deps or broken stuff here [02:27] comadreja, IZ BOOG DAY ! [02:27] look at the packages libclan2-sound libclan2-* [02:27] yes, whats wrong with them ? [02:27] the contents, look at them [02:27] they don't cointain the .so [02:28] they just create the dangling links [02:29] build process for race will fail at the end, at linking time [02:29] build-deps are ok [02:30] <\sh> yes [02:30] <\sh> debian/rules is completly fcked [02:30] <\sh> it's wrong from the beginning to the end [02:30] ok, I didn't touch debian rules [02:31] <\sh> AJ!!! ;-) [02:31] I just made it include the libraries [02:31] there was a naming proble [02:31] the .install files were called like libclan2c2-sound.install [02:31] <\sh> this is correct [02:31] and they had to be libclan2.install [02:31] <\sh> but in has to be in the rules as well... [02:31] <\sh> pkg_base is wrong [02:32] <\sh> no [02:32] <\sh> clanlib is renamed...cause of cxx trans [02:32] <\sh> so libclan2c2-sound is correct.. [02:32] oh, I see [02:32] <\sh> but in the rules file there is libclan2-sound [02:32] then remove my package :D [02:32] <\sh> pkg_base is libclan2 and not libclan2c2 [02:32] shlib depends are broken [02:32] I'll fix it and upload again [02:33] <\sh> where do u upload? [02:33] revu [02:33] <\sh> of forget revu for this stuff [02:33] <\sh> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11093 [02:34] <\sh> provide debdiff patches :) [02:34] <\sh> pls [02:34] ok [02:34] <\sh> don't do this with revu [02:34] <\sh> put the corrected debdiff to this entry, reopen it [02:35] <\sh> so I will recompile the stuff with your changes :) thx man :) [02:35] \sh: we should really try to define some sort of revu usage policy, which defines what upload should go to revu and what fixes should better be provided as debdiffs [02:35] ok, no prob... :) [02:35] siretart, everything thats not transition related can go to revu [02:35] else you will spam revu with useless stuff... [02:36] <\sh> siretart: this is the problem...revu should really a review tool... [02:36] <\sh> the transition stuff should go to bugzilla, cause there r already entries for it (good for debian as well)...and we can work with the debdiffs much faster... [02:36] this brings me more ideas for revu2. some kind of 'categorizing' or 'labeling' feature.. [02:37] sorry about that [02:38] <\sh> comadreja: there is no sorry...you were right :) nobody told you :) so we have to be sorry :) [02:39] what about a package which just needed a gcc 4.0 compile patch? should this go to revu? [02:39] SloMoSnail: this is transition related. g++ transition is handled via bugzilla.ubuntu.com [02:40] plus wiki [02:40] <\sh> SloMoSnail: acutally it would be nice to have a bugzilla entry with debdiff patches..(where your gcc4 patch is included) [02:40] <\sh> summary: CXX Transition: [02:41] <\sh> (renaming is not nescessary anymore, it was only for libs) [02:41] ok [02:41] where are the docs on the renamed libraries ? [02:41] <\sh> wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList [02:42] <\sh> comadreja: build-depends should point always to the lib-dev package [02:43] there, in that page, it says that both packages are called libclan2- [02:43] libclan2-* [02:44] <\sh> comadreja: now we have chaos [02:44] :D [02:44] so I call them libclan2c2-* [02:45] <\sh> nope [02:45] <\sh> don't do it.. [02:45] <\sh> moment [02:45] <\sh> ples [02:46] <\sh> ok...here's the plan [02:46] <\sh> rename the libclan2c2-*.install files to libclan2-*.install [02:46] <\sh> but not the libclanlib2c2.install, cause this is correct. [02:46] that's already done in the revu package [02:46] that's correct [02:46] siretart: it's an universe package... really to bugzilla.ubuntu.com or to launchpad? [02:47] <\sh> comadreja: ok...nice...do u know how to work with debdiff? [02:47] nopes [02:47] <\sh> comadreja: ok... [02:47] <\sh> the last version in the ubuntu archives is clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu2.dsc [02:47] <\sh> the next version of yours will be clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu3.dsc [02:47] <\sh> k? [02:47] <\sh> now do this: [02:47] yes [02:47] <\sh> debdiff clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu2.dsc clanlib_0.6.5-1-2.2ubuntu3.dsc > clanlib.diff [02:48] perfect [02:48] <\sh> and send it to the bugentry i gave u earlier [02:49] <\sh> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11093 <- clanlib cxx trans bugentry :) at your service... [02:49] <\sh> brb smoking [02:50] \sh, no need to redress for us :) === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Guten Tag [02:52] bddebian, german class today ? :) [02:52] Heh [02:52] Class? I have no class. ;-) [02:52] unclassified bddebian :) [02:53] classless object? [02:53] mhmm [02:53] SloMoSnail: we opened for every cxx transition a bug in bugzilla, even for universe packages [02:53] Treenaks: That is probably closer. :-) [02:54] siretart: here it is: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2989 [02:54] siretart: everything correct? [02:55] SloMoSnail: looks ok [02:56] it was on UniverseUnmetDeps... shall i remove it from there and add it somewhere else? [03:07] ok, done === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] \sh : I can't reopen the bug [03:12] \sh : but I've sent the diff [03:19] <\sh> comadreja: I reopened it :) === hawk_78 [~hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] [03:22] <\sh> comadreja: r u member already? [03:28] \sh: nopes, I applied [03:29] latest xserver-xorg is broken :/ [03:29]