=== fromoze [~fromoze@81.172.88.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [~frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] good night ! [01:02] ivman is quite interesting. Is there a config-frontend for it? [01:04] KaiL: nope, just some XML files === uniq [~frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~froud@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud is now known as froud-away === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D1B49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:40] hi [10:43] hi pef [10:45] hi pef [10:45] :] [10:55] what about the status of hibernate in kubuntu ? [10:56] pef: never tested it [10:56] it works great on ubuntu [10:56] but on Kubuntu ? I haven't the option on shutdown menu [10:57] pef: it's because of KDE not because of Kubuntu, no ? [10:58] I don't know :] === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud-away [~froud@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] Riddell: is there a good package building tutorial somewhere? [11:16] Mez: hi! poke me when the katapult berlios account will be opened [11:16] tvo: KubuntuPackagingGuide ;) ;) ;) [11:17] k thanks, just needed the right search term :) [11:19] tvo: take a look at KubuntuPackagingGuide and improve it as you see fit [11:19] do MOTU have a packaging guide yet? I'm not usre [11:19] sure [11:19] read Debian New Maintainers [11:19] yep I'm going through it now [11:20] tvo: hope you'll like it ;) [11:20] heh [11:20] learn about packages made with debhelper (as described in Debian New Maintainers) then once you've got the hang of that learn about cdbs (which hides debhelpers in a bunch of include files) [11:30] JRe, I've got permission off of the author to carry on katapult [11:31] Mez: woo! [11:31] Mez: cooooooooooooooool [11:31] Mez: can you send me the mail [11:31] Mez: ? [11:31] email address? [11:31] Mez: did you get access to his sourceforge? [11:31] er I dunno [11:31] but he siad he'd send em the code and stuff [11:31] Mez: ;) [11:31] well we have the code surly [11:32] the unreleased stuff [11:32] and the icon [11:32] how exciting [11:32] Mez: we will do great things with that code! [11:33] hehe :D [11:33] I'm thinking we get tvo on board and integrate it with kio_locate [11:33] Mez: sure! [11:33] Mez: we have plenty of bugs to fix [11:34] Mez: and some features to add [11:34] Mez: how would you integrate it with kio_locate? [11:34] Riddell: plugin [11:35] kio locate does not have dcop interface ? [11:35] JRe: no I mean what would it do? kio-locate can return a lot of results but katapult only shows one at a time [11:36] Riddell, I'm sure we'll work something out :D [11:37] JRe, Riddell, email forwarded [11:38] Mez, Riddell, probably for opening documents in ~ me thinks [11:38] with the right program of course [11:40] actually I doubt that will be possible through kio-locate, I think it's too slow for realtime searching like this [11:40] *Shrugs* [11:40] still, I might be able to write a plugin to do this :) [11:40] tvo: damn! [11:40] but not using locate :) [11:40] tvo: the document plugin has to be improved a lot [11:40] tvo: katpult works on catalogs, we could always make something use kio_locate to generate a catalog for it :) [11:40] on a daemon :D [11:41] Mez: maybe yes, but I think we should try too hard to include kio-locate.. might as well be easier to design better algorithm [11:42] fair enough [11:42] argh try NOT too hard ;) [11:42] tvo: i agree [11:42] katapult already searches on the first character [11:42] if you let locate (or kio-locate) search on 1 character [11:43] it takes long and returns almost your entire filesystem [11:43] Riddell: is it right: in such an unusable state, but it really seems like KDE 4's desktop search
features will contain most of the functionality of Katapult. ??? [11:44] tvo: you can configure how many caracther are taken for each type of catalog [11:44] Riddell: btw, kio-locate already has a debian/ subdir using debhelper, any tips for picking this up? [11:44] tvo: tough, i agree that kio-locate is to slow it's better to improve the home catalog [11:45] JRe: yes I noticed that, but still, locate (and as such kio-locate) was designed to quickly locate something [11:45] when given an entire word [11:45] not only 1, 2, 3 characters [11:45] I'd write an entirely different algorithm for that [11:46] tvo: the way I see it, is if It gets a query that isnt in it's catalog, or any paths, it passes the search string to kio_locate [11:46] so, say i type cheese and hit enter [11:47] it doesnt find cheese in it's catalog, or in a path, so it opens up konq with locate:/cheese [11:47] Mez, didn't think of that. That could be possible yes. [11:48] that's no work, you could probably patch the source for that in minutes ;-) [11:48] yeah I knowe [11:48] if you know the source that is [11:48] and it at least fixes the crash [11:48] the source is quite clean actually tvo [11:49] that's nice [11:52] Mez: it's a good idea [11:52] Mez: but it might be configurable [11:54] Mez: i am so impatient to start coding ;) [11:55] JRe: instead of using the program catalog, how about greabbiung stuff from menu or from the K menu (.desktop files) [11:55] JRe: your SF.net username? [11:55] Mez: surly that's what it does? [11:55] Mez: jrfaller [11:56] Riddell: that was it does [11:56] s/was/what/ [11:56] Riddell: I'm not too sure - it doesnt seem to pick up some programs I have [11:57] Mez: a plugin idea i have it's too search in the media list ;) ;) ;) [11:57] Riddell: your SF.net username? [11:57] and tvo - your's if you want to participte? [11:58] Mez: tobi_v [11:58] Mez: jriddell I think [11:59] Mez: do you have a new sf project? [11:59] erm, there's one in the registration queue... but he';s willing to add us to his [12:01] Mez: cool! [12:05] JRe, it says that on the bottom of his email [12:06] Mez: ha yes right! [12:10] sorry bout the emails folks, just thought I'd add you to the CCs === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Mez] : Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D [12:11] lol [12:11] Riddell, if we clean it up and stuff - reckon we'll be able to ship it as default wqith kubuntu? [12:11] Mez: certainly [12:12] Mez: i hope ;) [12:13] Mez: and if it's very clean clean clean may be one day we'll ship it with KDE [12:13] Mez: :) [12:13] maybe :d [12:18] Riddell: hello [12:19] pef: morning [12:20] Riddell: is a 755 file in /usr/share a debian policy violation ? [12:21] pef: possibly [12:21] pef: what's the situation? [12:22] Riddell: I want a tcl/tk script to be in the PATH, so for the moment I've put it in 755 to /usr/share/foo, then symlinked to /usr/bin [12:24] pef: why not just put it in /usr/bin? [12:24] Riddell: he needs to be launched from his directory, otherwise he can't find its data [12:25] but /usr/lib/packagename/foo would be the place for hidden executables [12:25] pef: best thing to do would be to patch the program to make it work right [12:26] Riddell: amsn chmod 755 the main script in /usr/share/amsn, then a sh wrapper in /usr/bin launch it, what do you think about it ? === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D0D4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] hi [12:30] pef: that's neater then a symlink yes [12:30] Riddell: but that's not the ideal solution I presume ? (755 file in /usr/share) [12:33] pef: no, using /usr/lib/packagename/script would be better [12:34] and quite possibly required [12:35] Riddell: so, all its files in /usr/lib/foo, then a wrapper script in /usr/bin ? or simply a symlink from /usr/lib/foo/foo.tcl to /usr/bin/foo ? [12:36] hi OculusAquilae [12:36] What about our katapult-fork. I've a patch, which makes it possible to deactivate the systray-icon (but i doesn't have a patch making the config-menu available without the systray :-) [12:37] hi JRe [12:37] OculusAquilae: mez is in contact with the author, hopefully we'll get a CVS archive up soon [12:39] OculusAquilae: we can turn katapult into a kded and put the configuration in a kcm ;) [12:40] perhaps we can make the programm show the config dialog, when the user types "config" or so. [12:41] but that isn't very intuitiv :-) [12:41] or use the already registered hot keys :D [12:41] OculusAquilae: no it's not intuitive [12:41] all we do is chnage the keys and add an accelerator [12:41] code* [12:42] whatever before starting development we have to make a meeting in #katapult [12:42] or in #kubuntu-devel [12:42] yes [01:06] anyone want to update metabar? new version just out === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@81.172.88.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] hola fromoze [01:35] hola? [01:35] hello [01:35] fromoze: what is #kubuntu-es like? [01:36] Is like #kubuntu but in spanish. [01:36] wincide starts the channel, not me :) [01:36] fromoze: how many people? [01:36] I'm just there to help [01:36] just 4-5 :$ [01:37] cool cool [01:37] we're waiting for the comunity to grow up XD [01:38] fromoze: has it been announced on ubuntu-es.org? [01:39] there is others #kubuntu-xx [01:39] ?? [01:39] just spanish that i know of [01:39] cuando gnome no es sufficente ;) [01:39] I've try #kubuntu-fr an #kubuntu-pt, the languages I know but no [01:40] do you understand it? [01:40] do i have listed [01:40] fromoze: sure i have lived in Madrid 4 months [01:41] Riddell: I don't know, but I'm going to ask xuzo or natxo (ubuntu-es maintainers) to introduce it [01:41] fromoze: went me to put a wee note on kubuntu.org? [01:41] JRe: studies? [01:41] I dunno :/ [01:41] fromoze: yeah intership in a non govertmental organization === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] Riddell if you want to put a note, say that we are trying to make it work ... [01:44] JRe: I'm living in Salamanca, but I'm from Vigo. May be you travel to here? [01:45] fromoze: yeah Salamanca is my second favourite city in spain after Grenada ;) [01:45] ah, we are on ubuntulinux.org :-) [01:45] edubuntu too [01:46] Riddell: BTW have you tested the brand new medianotifier ? [01:47] JRe: All the foreingers visitos likes Salamanca XD [01:47] excuse for my english :$ [01:47] fromoze: it's not strange, given that the architecture really kicks ass! [01:47] fromoze: it also seems to be a student city [01:48] fromoze: Madrid kicks ass too ;) [01:48] JRe: I prefer Santiago de Compostela :) [01:48] fromoze: aaaa Galicia [01:48] JRe: where are you from? === wincide [~tricoma@157.Red-83-37-68.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] fromoze: Montpellier, France [01:49] fromoze: los pimientos de padron [01:50] hola fromoze xD [01:50] JRe: My brother in love is french, my sister lives in Paris. And I travel a lot in France, where I lived for a year in Lorient. [01:50] but never gone to montpellier [01:50] hi all xD [01:50] Riddell, wincide is whom has created the #kubuntu-es [01:51] wincide: welcome along :) [01:51] wincide, fromoze: got a sentence or two to put on kubuntu.org? my Spanish is not very good [01:51] very nice to meet you :D [01:52] Riddell: my english is not very good too XD [01:52] wincide: I think it should be in Spanish. or maybe I can write it in English and you can translate it for me [01:54] wincide: is the #kubuntu-es channel registered? [01:54] i dont know .. i didnt register even my nick [01:54] xDD [01:54] wincide: so it's not registered :) [01:55] sure.. [01:55] I'm gonna ask xuzo to introduce #kubuntu-es on the contact list of ubuntu-es.org; but, better to register it before? [01:55] im going register my nick and look for #kubuntu-es registration [01:55] :) [01:57] Channel: #kubuntu-es Contact: StR, last seen: 6 weeks 2 days (11h 30m 13s) ago [01:57] How do I to register the channel? I start using IRC this month :/ [01:57] before I was happy enough with jabber... [01:57] ./msg chanserv register #kubuntu-es password [01:57] str has already registed it, do you know StR? [01:58] no [01:58] . since i've created this that channel i've always connected [01:58] 6 weeks !! XD [01:59] I do a whois and StR is unknown... [01:59] ./msg nickserv info StR [02:00] http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu-es.php [02:00] ./msg nickserv info StR [02:00] sorry :$ [02:00] fromoze: erase the . [02:01] :D [02:02] I'll contact freenode staff, see if we can get control of it [02:03] i have to go :\ just in this very interesting moment for me .. i have to go to a web engeneering course about RIA applications this soon [02:03] see you later [02:03] wincide: later [02:03] wincide: enjoy ;) ! [02:04] wincide: xiau! [02:04] #kubuntu-es will be introduced in the ubuntu-es.org references :) [02:04] fromoze: anything to add to that page on the website? [02:05] does gpg-agent works for you ? [02:05] pef: not in my very limited experience [02:06] Riddel: Would you like the translation? [02:06] fromoze: please [02:06] gpg: can't connect to `/tmp/gpg-QMccAq/S.gpg-agent': Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type [02:06] Riddell: you have error like this : [02:06] ? [02:06] Riddell: tell me a sentence in english and i'll try to translate [02:06] :) [02:07] wincide: http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu-es.php [02:07] wincide: I'll doy it ;) [02:07] The growing Kubuntu community has started a Spanish Kubuntu chat channel. #kubuntu-es on freenode IRC will provide help and support to Spanish Kubuntu users. [02:08] la creciente ccomunidad Kubuntu ya tiene un canal de chat sobre Kubuntu en espaol . #kubuntu-es en freenode IRC le dara soporte y ayuda a los usuarios de kubuntu hispano-parlantes [02:08] :D [02:09] sorry . La creciente comunidad Kubuntu ya tiene un canal de chat sobre Kubuntu en espaol . #kubuntu-es en freenode IRC le dar soporte y ayuda a los usuarios de kubuntu hispano-parlantes [02:09] that's better [02:10] now i'm gonna leave :) [02:10] adios ;) === wincide is back. === wincide is away: Away at the moment [02:15] Riddell: if you're interested in gpg agent, try seahorse-agent, it solved my problem [02:16] pef: apt-cache search doesn't bring it up [02:16] Riddell: provided with seahorse ;) [02:17] "A Gnome front end for GnuPG" booo [02:18] lol [02:20] Kubuntu Espaol now on http://kubuntu.org/ [02:21] but now I don't have to type again and again my looong passphrase when packaging :] [02:22] Mez should get kgpg updated [02:27] why ? [02:30] hi guys. [02:31] Mez: weren't you complaining about it? [02:31] Riddell: sorry, I must answer the phone (VIP: my girlfriend xD); I see the translation is donne.. Then, it's all ok? [02:32] I was complaining but i cant update it myself... I wuldnt know hwhere to start ;:D [02:33] Riddell: kubuntu allows hibernate ? [02:33] pef: depends on your system I think === wincide [~tricoma@157.Red-83-37-68.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] Riddell: I don't have it on my shutdown menu, what have I missed ? [02:34] pef: talking about the kde shutdown menu? [02:34] JRe: yes [02:34] pef: patch it ;) [02:34] mostly it's part of klaptopdaemon [02:34] Riddell: yes it is [02:35] mm ok [02:35] chowells was doing something to fix up klaptopdaemon, not sure the state of that though [02:36] Riddell: the problem is that KLaptop show up only if you have a laptop, n+o? [02:36] not sure what makes it show up, I thought an acpi or apm interface would [02:38] Riddell: tough it will not be a bad idea to be allowed to hibernate from the logout menu, no? [02:38] JRe: sounds like a good idea to me, not sure how you'd do it though [02:38] JRe: like in ubuntu [02:38] ask klaptopdaemon if it's possible I guess [02:40] Riddell: mmm that's a pain i am pretty sure that my computer can do hibernate but klaptop does not show === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] pef: hibernate is only with acpi ? [02:42] JRe: I don't know, since ubuntu is on a laptop [02:42] pef: on a laptop you can have hibernate with klaptop [02:43] Riddell: ubuntu kernel is compiled with softwaresuspend ? [02:43] JRe: I don't have kde on it ;) [02:43] JRe: yes, it's softwaresuspend2 [02:43] pef: okay! [02:43] when packaging, if I've made a list of build-depends, should I include version numbers? [02:44] tvo: sure [02:45] tvo: but it depends the program [02:45] tvo: if it depends on a certain version yes [02:45] Riddell: point is that I don't know that [02:45] tvo: automake1.7 for instance doesn't need a version number [02:45] tvo: well it won't hurt to add them [02:46] tvo: autotools-dev neither [02:46] hmm, ok I'll figure them out them. btw, I should strip off the Nubuntu part I assume: e.g. "libqt3-mt-dev (3:3.3.3)" [02:47] would be "libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.3)" of course [02:47] :) [02:47] tvo: what do you package? [02:47] kio-locate [02:47] tvo: you know there is already a kio-locate package? [02:48] yes i had already a debian/ subdir in the project tree [02:48] I'm doublechecking things, also to learn a bit about packaging [02:49] tvo: apt-get source kio-locate in breezy to see what's already there [02:49] btw, are there also different packages needed for kubuntu and debian [02:49] ? [02:50] tvo: I don't think the package is in debian [02:51] Riddell: no kio-locate in Debian [02:51] Riddell: not in their repo's then, but Armin supplies a .deb on his site [02:52] and it's not in WNPP [02:52] what's WNPP? [02:52] Work-Needing and [02:52] Prospective Packages [02:53] tvo: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ [02:54] Riddell: is it possible for Katapult to use the KDE BTS ? [02:56] JRe: only if it was in KDE SVN I suspect [02:57] mmm ok [02:57] JRe: it's not in WNPP [02:57] tvo: who is maintaining the kio-locate package? [02:57] tvo: and is kio-locate going to be in kdebase ? [02:58] i did the package currently in breezy. [02:59] uniq: you know if kio-locate is going to be integrated in KDE ? [02:59] uniq: ah ok, so maybe you can help me a bit? :D [03:00] jre: don't know. [03:00] tvo: sure. [03:01] uniq: that's nice. current status is: i don't know much about packaging :( and have almost entirely new kio-locate source [03:01] i'm now adding breezy source repo and getting your package [03:02] I guess you could copy the debian dir from my package. [03:02] you still use scons? [03:03] tvo: you're the upstream of kio-locate ? [03:05] uniq: yes, updated to newest bksys version [03:07] JRe: guess so yes, maybe upstream author too [03:08] tvo: you're the author or not? [03:10] tvo: if you're upstream now, please remove the included scons-mini from the upstream source. :) [03:11] or make it more sensible somehow. distribute two source tarballs or something. [03:11] JRe: suppose so, it's a fork of the code of Armin now [03:11] uniq: that should be easy [03:11] armin has stopped development [03:11] ? [03:22] JRe, I don't know, in any case, he doesn't develop as active as I do atm. [03:23] unfortunately i can only reach him per e-mail, I could ask him who is official upstream etc. [03:25] dmn this packaging stuff is difficult :( even c++ is way easier ;p === pef is now known as pef_aw [03:53] am i right in that the *.orig.tar.gz contains upstream author's source and *.diff.gz contains differences made by maintainer? [03:55] tvo: yep [03:55] ok, now trying to if i can get a package build.. [04:04] w00000t [04:04] got apackage compiled :) [04:05] now to do it again with right versions/changelog etc === pef_aw is now known as pef === venda [~sean@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] <\sh> Riddell: ping [04:12] <\sh> Riddell: kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libopenexr-dev (>= 1.2.1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.3.3) but it is not going to be installed === venda [~sean@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [04:20] \sh: hmm? [04:20] \sh: amd64? [04:36] <\sh> Riddell: i386 [04:36] <\sh> Riddell: local pbuilder === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:47] \sh: I can installed kdelibs4-dev ok today (couldn't yesterday due to xbase-clients being broken) [04:47] i can't instlal it. [04:48] same error \sh pasted. [04:48] uniq: try using uk mirror maybe === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:49] i use archive.ubuntu.com [04:49] i can try to change. [04:49] hmm [04:49] uk.archive and archive are the same. [04:50] yes [04:51] <\sh> actually, I'm using only archive.ubuntu.com [04:51] that's the same i use. and it's the same as uk.archive. [04:51] <\sh> but it looks like, that we have issues with qt and stuff, eventually because of Xorg? [04:52] hmm.. [04:53] i can install kdelibs4-dev if i apt-get install libarts1-dev libqt3-mt-dev kdelibs4-dev [04:53] The following extra packages will be installed: [04:53] libglu1-xorg-dev libopenexr-dev [04:53] <\sh> ok...libglu [04:53] <\sh> yes [04:53] could be that. [04:54] <\sh> riddell: I'm going home now...so I can have a look on qt...if u want..provide a debdiff later? [04:55] <\sh> ok...home :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:58] \sh_away: would be nice if you had a look at kio-apt in revu. http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=117 [05:29] lol [05:29] had kubuntupult rejected on SF [05:29] Inadequate registration description or license detail; or additional information required === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D0F0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [06:03] <\sh> re === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === froud-away is now known as froud [06:40] seth_k: any resolution to the libXrender.la issue? I've just come across it [06:41] Riddell: I asked daniels, he said he would look at it later [06:41] I got the impression he was pretty busy [06:47] what build is hanging you up? [06:48] seth_k: ggz-kde-games [06:49] uses libtool? [06:50] yes [06:52] okay. Let me know if you find out anything, if you have time, Riddell. Thanks [06:56] <\sh> oh...it's even more worse now ,-) [06:56] <\sh> kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed [06:56] oh joy [06:57] btw \sh are you feeling better today [06:58] <\sh> seth: yepp..no problem :) sometimes some bad things are happening to often.. === venda [~sean@ndn-165-134-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] yep, i understand. glad to hear you are doing better though [06:59] <\sh> concentrate on my work now :) it helps to forget :) === CWiesen [~chris@p50884BC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D0A09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F3AFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@81.172.88.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:14] hmm, kdelibs doesn't compile without libXrender.la [08:15] haha [08:15] it just doesn't end [08:17] Riddell, didn't seth tell you that yesterday ? [08:18] Mez: seth_k had problems with a different package, I just tried kdelibs now [08:18] oh, fair enough [08:22] daniels is a very popular guy right now, everyone wants him for a different issue === pef is now known as pef_aw [08:36] "Martin Meredith has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-bugs." poor chap [08:43] lol - I was getting it through gmane before :D [08:43] but I'm moving to getting them all through email [08:50] any progress on libxrender, Riddell? [08:51] ls [08:51] oops:) [08:51] directory is empty [08:51] seth_k: compliling qt to see if that breaks too [08:52] :D [08:52] ok Riddell [08:52] I expect it isn't since qt shouldn't use libtool [08:52] seth_k :D [08:53] Riddell, are packages like libc automagically added to dependencies? === wincide is back. [08:55] I don't understand why http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/kio-locate lists different deps than .dsc and debian/control [08:55] and it's the same version [08:55] tvo: yes, build-essential is assumed to be installed [08:55] tvo: because shlibs is expanded? [08:56]