=== Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-21.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jp_ [~jp@216-155-91-31.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont grumbles at xorg... kamion: if you wanna make it quit sending me UNACCEPTs over and over I wouldn't complain === kiko [~kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Left] === jp__ [~jp@200-126-82-5.bk6-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === uniq [~frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === robertj [~robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] daniels: what is the proper way to slow down a usb mouse that is on crack, but not affect the touchpad [12:32] infinity: not any more, there isn't [12:32] tseng: uhh ... right now, you can't [12:32] they're not presented to xorg as distinct devices [12:32] go xorg [12:33] lamont : Should be fixed once the new version builds, which should be right around now. [12:33] infinity: yeah... it's just annoying me [12:34] You'll live. [12:34] did xorg need some give-back love? [12:34] It will once the new x11protowhateverthingee is in. [12:34] daniels: When you got a chance could you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition and make sure it looks ok? (siretart wanted an xorg guru to check) [12:34] right [12:36] :S at breezy, with upgraded x packages I got: no screens found.. who couild fix it? thanks guys [12:36] jp__ : It's already being fixed. Just wait a few hours. [12:37] daniels: since libxrender-dev no longer ships libXrender.la, what do I tell this build that is asking for it? What do I use instead? [12:37] infinity ok thanks [12:39] daniels : "not anymore" was code for "I just uploaded it", right? [12:39] daniels : Not seeing it in any queues, so now I'm paranoid. :) === Simira [~rpGirl@a130-233-5-53.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] good night ! [12:41] ubuntu bug 10131 and 12380 are duplicate of ubuntu bug 11669 [12:44] could someone make the changes? I don't have the permissions to do so [12:44] and bug 11669 should be set as critical === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:54] ping [12:54] JOIN #ubuntu-devel [12:56] ! === infinity applauds AndyFitz's attempts to reinforce the stereotypes about the technical ineptitude of artistic people. [12:57] lol [12:57] hehehe. its sooo true.. im typing from centreicq now that X has broken [12:57] infinity: yeah [12:57] infinity: well, I uploaded it 25 minutes ago now [12:57] try bitchx for the console.. [12:58] damnit.. i trusted those updates and as soon as you fall in love your heart gets broken [12:58] seth_k: just -lXrender [12:58] how's that again, daniels? [12:58] forgive my lack of knowledge [12:59] fix my X and i'll e-mail some shiny bling icons :) [12:59] x is fine [12:59] seth_k: which build? [12:59] daniels: i'm in the middle of packaging kmobiletools [12:59] no.. X isnt fine. last update broke it [01:00] no, you just need to install the mouse and kbd drivers [01:00] the drivers got modularized [01:00] AndyFitz : It'll unbreak in the next few hours. Just waiting on various computers to do their thing. [01:00] AndyFitz : Or get someone like seth_k to walk you through fixing it manually. :) [01:01] so what should i apt-get install.. i kinda need X before 10:30 GMT+10 [01:01] seth_k, mate, [01:01] AndyFitz: xserver-xorg-input-kbd and xserver-xorg-input-mouse and xserver-xorg-driver-### [01:01] Lathiat: ta [01:01] ati or nv or whatever [01:01] nv [01:01] okay, those three then [01:01] AndyFitz: also xserver-xorg-core [01:01] nvidia-glx if possible [01:02] Have a LAN party you need to urgently attend? :) === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK [01:03] (I'm pretty sure binary nvidia drivers are still a no-go on breezy until someone gets some round tuits) [01:03] nah, just Red Hat [01:03] yep, nvidia glx still dead [01:03] libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' [01:04] anyways daniels, my build goes happily along until we get to that [01:04] where do I go if I want to propose a new applications to the MOTU team? [01:05] have you packaged it? If so, revu [01:05] seth_k : this one? http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ [01:05] thierry, that's right [01:06] k thanks [01:09] bizzare, its still not running. would dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do anything [01:09] or would i dig myself deeper :) [01:10] AndyFitz : What's it complain about? [01:11] AndyFitz: one more change to make [01:11] AndyFitz : s/keyboard/kbd/ in xorg.conf may be required. [01:11] bah, beat me to typing it :) [01:11] indeed, you must sudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your keyboard driver from "keyboard" to "kbd" [01:12] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf here we go === infinity grumps. [01:13] IT WORKS! [01:13] daniels : You did get an ACCEPT mail for that proto-resource upload, I assume? [01:13] the future is now . many thanks === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:14] daniels : Ahh, so you did. Finally got it on -changes. === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === uniq [~frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dr88dr88 [~gerrit@h174040.upc-h.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === seth_k ponders the cryptic "-lXrender" and hopes daniels did not die, so he can clarify [01:23] seth_k: um, yo [01:23] link to the lib Xrender [01:23] seth_k: i'll check the problem out a bit later [01:23] seth_k: just dealing with the world having exploded in my inbox overnight [01:23] yeah, I know you're probably busy :P [01:23] hence I wait === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zoofields [~zoofields@ip68-104-36-242.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.88.55] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [shackan@host207-107.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] I was labouring under the misapprehension that Hoary shipped with tomboy === Surak [~Surak@201009097046.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Surak [~Surak@201009097046.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:57] davyd: uh [01:57] davyd: it didnt? === Surak [~Surak@201009097046.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] by shipped I mean [01:58] was in universe [01:58] hello [01:58] ... === tseng hands davyd packages.ubuntu.com [01:58] Hello people [01:59] I always forget you have one of those [01:59] aah, not built for amd64 [02:00] right, we didn't have mono for amd64 in hoary [02:00] aah [02:00] is it in breezy? [02:00] dude [02:00] packages. [02:00] use it [02:00] who should I ask about breezy daily builds? live isn't being built for i386 for some days... [02:00] yeah, doing that [02:00] I don't have a mouse handy [02:01] so I'm having to alt tab around a lot [02:01] hmm, I wasn't going to go to breezy on this machine... but for tomboy... [02:01] daniels: what's the accepted fix for the problem where xkbcomp spits out a bunch of errors on X startup and then every keypress just changes the resolution? [02:02] TerminX: 'make xkbcomp not do that'? === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [""] [02:02] what were the errors? === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] (stupid X-chat) [02:02] it sounds like one of /usr/lib/X11/xkb or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is not a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb [02:02] tseng: is someone doing mono backports to hoary? [02:03] davyd: unfortunately. [02:03] and/or /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB and/or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB is not a symlink to /usr/share/X11/xkb [02:03] unfortunately? [02:03] hmm.. I don't have any of those symlinks [02:03] yes, they never approached me before doing it [02:04] if they're needed, shouldn't the packages be creating them? [02:04] and made a big mess of it [02:04] TerminX: of course ... that's why they do create them [02:04] they don't seem to here. [02:04] tseng: so don't even bother with them? [02:05] davyd: i dont remember if they even bothered with !x86 [02:05] as soon as I install any newer libx11-6/xlibs/xlibs-data than what is in hoary, the problem happens [02:05] like with the current packages [02:05] TerminX: and you have the latest x-common installed as well? [02:05] yes [02:05] bong [02:05] daniels@brainfreeze:~/canonical/xorg/lib/libx11% dpkg-deb -c libx11-6_6.2.1+cvs.20050711-1_amd64.deb | grep XKeysym [02:05] -rw-r--r-- root/root 8298 2005-07-11 10:15:09 ./usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB [02:05] lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2005-07-11 10:15:13 ./usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB -> ../../share/X11/XKeysymDB [02:06] lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2005-07-11 10:15:13 ./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB -> ../../../share/X11/XKeysymDB [02:06] hmm === GmanAFK is now known as Gman_ [02:06] tseng: would building breezy Mono debs on Hoary lead to much pain? [02:06] I can't imagine that the Mono dependancy tree has changed incredibly much externally === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [""] === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] (stupid X-chat again) [02:07] well it takes me a few hours [02:07] I only want enough Mono for tomboy and muine [02:07] as for anyone else [02:07] cant say. [02:07] is it likely to just be a matter of getting the source and debuilding it? === davyd has not worked with the toolchain on amd64 yet [02:08] mono and cli-common needs to be bootstrapped [02:08] then build gtk-sharp, gtk-sharp2, muine, tomboy [02:08] but suspects he'll be getting good somewhere around 3 weeks from now [02:08] we dont really have docs on it [02:08] failing that... can I somehow jam breezy mono onto Hoary? [02:09] you have to remove cli-common build-dep, and remove dh_*cli* calls from rules [02:09] build, install [02:09] build cli-common [02:09] install [02:09] replace above, rebuild mono [02:09] mako: has that jdong guy talked to you lately? I'm supposed to sign his key but he seems missing. [02:09] and then work your way up the rest of the ladder [02:10] tseng: ok, I'll have a play with that tonight when I get home from work [02:10] it's time for me to go now === Surak [~Surak@201009097046.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:10] ok [02:10] thanks [02:10] np [02:10] daniels: is /usr/share/X11 supposed to be a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11? [02:10] TerminX: ... no [02:11] wtf === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] what's the easiest way to purge all of X and reinstall it [02:12] heh [02:12] delete the symlink, create a dir in its place, I'll take care of it in an x-common upload [02:12] err ... heh [02:12] I checked into that XKeysymDB thing -- there was no actual file [02:13] just symlinks linking to symlinks linking to nonexistent stuff [02:13] how recent is your libx11-6? [02:13] ok [02:13] current as of now [02:13] so nuke the symlink, create the dir, reinstall libx11-6 [02:13] done === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:20] daniels: that appeared to work, but I had to mv /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/X11 [02:20] should I need to do anything else? [02:21] ehm... why are there no buildlogs for amd64 for the more recent uploaded packages? === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] I can see no *_amd64.deb hitting the archive either :-/ [02:26] the amd64 buildds appear to be dead in the water [02:26] TerminX: that should be alright [02:26] oh joy! :-( [02:28] daniels: okay, thank you for your help :) [02:29] anyway, goodnight! :-) === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jp [~jp@216-155-93-213.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] is x good now? [02:54] sure [02:54] works fine [02:54] with a bit of tweaking [02:55] cool, so I keep tweaking it :P [02:55] thanks === jp [~jp@216-155-91-100.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] daniels : -39 is FTBFS. Missing build-dep. [03:05] daniels : cannot find -lXtst === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luis_ [~louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mrd` [~matthew@c-24-1-63-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-120.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] Anyone else having problems trying to upgrade openoffice.org2-* in Breezy? [03:13] how did some symlinks to get working xorg? to share them... :( thanks :D [03:14] :$ [03:14] I have no idea what you just said. [03:15] (Anyways, I think I found a workaround for OOo2 on bugzilla...) [03:15] mrd`: I can't start x, and somebody of here said me that x is working, but I can't start it (sorry my english) [03:16] and Ive been doing some symlinks, reinstalling xserver but I cant get it working :/ [03:16] mrd`: uninstall openoffice.org2-base, then do apt-get -f install and then install base again === mrd` tries KaiL's method since the bugzilla one didn't work. === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-70-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:17] it's a very "funny" version of file conflict (one file moved from base to common and one from common to base), so you can't just say "install the other one first"..:( [03:18] Was the file swap intentional? [03:18] I don't know [03:19] :( [03:19] infinity: let me guess, hw/dmx? [03:20] KaiL: Your method seems to be working, thanks! [03:20] jp: Sorry, X's working for me. Did you check if your problem's listed in Bugzilla? [03:20] well, it worked here too :) [03:21] how did you get it working? [03:21] doing ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/X /etc/X11/X ? [03:21] I wonder, that openoffice.org website doesn't have this 114 ;) [03:21] I can't, sorry guys.. [03:21] jp: Yeah, I had to do that once upon a time. [03:21] at least it seams to be faster [03:25] daniels : Dunno, already deleted the log mail. [03:25] daniels : They're copied into ~lamont, though. [03:26] infinity: -40 uploaded [03:26] Schwoit. [03:27] daniels: so who's fingers are you gonna use to figure out the revision for the next upload??? :-) [03:28] i won't mind if you force me to take sick days [03:29] I know that it's a development channel, but can somebody help me to get working x? sorry guys and thanks [03:32] uhmm where is the correct X file now? /usr/X11R6/bin/ ? where? that would help me a lot, I treied with /usr/bin/X but doesn't work [03:33] My /etc/X11/X points to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg. [03:33] thanks mrd` [03:36] heheh mrd` no it says me no screens found that's an advance, thanks :) [03:37] Sorry, that's as far as I'll be useful helping out. ;) [03:37] heheh :P [03:52] i really want to cry [03:52] I've been trying more than 2 hours :( [03:53] the log file says that it doesn't recognize my hardware... that can't load "sis" "keyboard" "mouse" module [03:53] :/ [03:59] If anyone can explain to me why I've been awake for over 26 hours, they get a prize. [04:00] Alternately... === infinity -> sleep. [04:00] Caffeine? === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] mrd`: a gun :) === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] jp: you need to install some new packages [04:17] like xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, and xserver-xorg-driver-sis [04:17] and you might have to change your xorg.conf to use kbd instead of keyboard for the keyboard driver [04:17] oh [04:17] he left. [04:17] shit. [04:26] My xorg.conf still has ``Driver "keyboard"''; should I change it? [04:28] kbd [04:29] Hm... the xserver-xorg package says "This package is a dummy package which depends on the core X.Org X server", but it doesn't seem to have any dependencies. === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] mrd`: /topic [04:50] daniels: Ah. :) === mrd` didn't notice that when he joined. [04:55] did python-apt get tweaked to support hoary-backport versions, I wonder? === susus [~sz@p5089F71C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p5089F71C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] morning [05:50] dev related question sorta: Is Ubuntu installable alongside Windows currently? [05:50] ie resize tools? I had heard we were making progress on that front. [05:51] has any thought been put into doing so, and when done, automounting the windows drive in some position and providing an icon on the user's desktop? [05:52] "Windows Documents" for instance, which would be a .desktop file which would point to /windows/Documents and Settings/*somehow find previous username* [05:53] wasabi_: NTFS resize is included in hoary [05:53] in the installer [05:53] I used it on this laptop [05:54] Well, I was just thinking about the whole auto mounting exposure thing... [05:54] So as soon sa the user gets in, he has his docs in front of him. [05:54] We're still read-only NTFS without Captive though aren't we. [05:55] Still, it woudl be a step. [05:55] the docs would be pretty hard to do [05:55] considering you couldn't reliably determine which username is which [05:56] Yeah I had thought of that. [05:56] best idea I guess is to put them all in there. [05:57] I wouldn't wnat to link directly to C: though, as a large majority of people don't even know their stuff is in Docs and settings [05:57] a better option would be... "migrate my windows documents and settings" icon [05:57] that allows you to select a user name [05:57] and brings in the favorites [05:58] which I think is actually in the works [05:59] Hmm. Well. I dunno if I like that. [05:59] Mostly because it dehooks them. === luis_ is now known as lu|sleep [05:59] I'd like that, if I could run it whenever I chose to. [05:59] I might want to dual boot for awhile. [05:59] Or forever. [05:59] no matter what, your settings aren't going to go both ways [06:00] until you have captive [06:00] and it provides less clutter on the desktop with the icons from all 20 users on your system [06:00] Yeah. Well... is that an option? [06:00] not legally [06:01] captive requires microsoft's NTFS driver [06:01] It's there. [06:01] /windows/WINDOWS/System32/NTFS.dll [06:01] =) [06:01] you need a specific version, matching what captive expects [06:01] I think knoppix did this. [06:01] And it works. [06:02] knoppix includes a script that downloads this driver for you [06:03] afaik [06:03] and/or they can get away with it a bit, because it's not a commercially supported distro (ubuntu is gaining commercial support, through canonical) [06:04] I would think Captive would be able to use any NTFS.dll version from Xp anyways [06:04] gnar [06:04] svenl: ping [06:04] Aren't they all the same? Maybe slight modes for sps [06:04] wasabi_: nope [06:04] it wants a specific version in all of my experiences [06:05] Guess it should just be fixed. ;) [06:05] Either way, ya can mount /windows originally with the read only ones, copy NTFS.DLL, and remount it with the new ones pretty easily. [06:05] think it's just due to how captive works [06:05] like I said... [06:05] copying NTFS.dll doesn't necessarily work [06:06] daniels: libxtst is FTBFS... [06:06] daniels: ETA for a fixed version?= [06:06] libxevie too [06:06] daniels: no sleep for you until X is release ready! [06:07] Yeah, doesn't support SP2 === fabbione hands a clean buildd chroot to daniels [06:08] I suspect that could be fixed. [06:09] wasabi_: you can't really depend upon users having a certain version of windows installed [06:10] fabbione: both fixed [06:10] some may have 2k, 2k3 server ,xp sp1, xp sp2... or any patchlevel thereof [06:10] fabbione: libxevie was fine, it's just that I forgot to upload the new x11proto-evie [06:10] daniels: that's sitting in NEW now... right? [06:11] should be in the queue [06:11] schweeb, huh? [06:11] Sure you can. There is a finite set. === fabbione tries a rsync [06:12] daniels: i just got my adsl upgraded at 6Mb/768 :) [06:12] fabbione: eh, I uploaded it all of two minutes ago [06:12] nice [06:12] i still have 1.5 [06:12] ah ok.. [06:12] i tought you did a while ago :) [06:13] ah, no === Amaranth [amaranth@ip68-225-172-54.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:13] i prepared it days ago [06:13] just never got to upload it [06:13] punk [06:13] wasabi_: you'd have to know at which patchlevels in between NTFS.DLL was changed, and account for each one. and as I said, I'm pretty sure captive wants an exact version of said dll [06:14] rotfl [06:15] Just fix Captive to work with them all. ;) [06:16] wasabi_: think it's just part of how captive works === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:54] is is a known bug, dev nodes not being created for /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, even though psmouse and mousedev are loaded? [06:54] can't exactly check bugzilla right now, as my X isn't working due to these 2 issues... [06:55] apparently udev is having issues [06:56] wonderful [06:56] could someone give me the major/minors for those 2 nodes plz? [06:57] crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2005-07-09 16:46 /dev/input/mice [06:57] crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 1 2005-07-09 16:46 /dev/psaux [06:58] much appreciated [06:58] np === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487B9D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:00] and that fixed it [07:00] whee === AndyR [~andrew@rogers666.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] is udevd having issues, or is it in the conf files? === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:28] hi === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:40] morning all === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~Michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman_ is now known as GmanMovie === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aisipos [~aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont wanders off === kamstrup [~kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rjo [robertjo@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@a130-233-4-188.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-184-248.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:32] does anybody know if the laptop testing team propsal is still on? === Aatif [~aatif@59.95.1.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.1.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [~j@d154-20-178-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sgran [~steve@a130-233-4-135.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario [~Michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:04] Kamion, mdz: please promote xcursorgen to main, split out from the xbase-clients package, all packages in main depending on kdelibs4-dev currently FTBFS === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.1.245] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] xvinfo as well [09:06] xvattrib? [09:06] yeah, we need to get xvattr in [09:06] but it not being in main won't cause anything b-d'ing or depending on xbase-cleints to ftbfs ;) [09:07] -> doesn't make doko quite as upset [09:07] heh no :) === rjo [robertjo@rjo.developer.debian] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:11] upset? no, I'm quiet, I'm really quiet, I'm not upset, I'm not even getting upset. Really. [09:11] ;) [09:17] daniels: pong ? [09:19] svenl: my pegasos is broken to hell [09:20] svenl: did you see my message yesterday? [09:20] regarding the build failure === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] dilinger: don't think so. [09:25] daniels: huh ? Can you give any more diagnostic info than that :) [09:25] svenl: log into the ppc machine as user guest [09:25] and run screen -rD [09:26] (or screen -rD , if there's multiple ones) [09:26] and you can see the build error i got [09:26] dilinger: ok, but we are on wrong forum now. [09:26] here i mean. [09:26] *shrug* [09:26] just passing the message along, we can discuss it later if there's anything to discuss === icaro [~icaro@adsl-ull-210-19.44-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:42] Kamion: ping ? [09:42] Kamion: did you activate the mkvmlinuz calls on the daily builds ? === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sgran [~steve@a130-233-4-135.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D1B49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hawk_78 [~hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martink [~martin@p54B3A619.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] hello [10:05] anybody knows what version of debian-installer was used to create the hoary livecd? [10:05] mdeboer: the version that is in hoary, probably [10:05] yes, sorry [10:05] i see === dave_ [~dave@212.184.217.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] whiprush: i haven't talked to him for a little while === Lathiat [lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-184-248.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] daniels: xcursorgen promoted [10:30] svenl: er, ENOCONTEXT [10:31] daniels: although again, please remove its Conflicts on xbase-clients [10:32] Kamion: right. will do that when I get to uploading it. [10:32] only had the chance to do it for xvinfo so far [10:32] thanks for the promotion [10:32] Kamion: hey dude.. [10:32] yo [10:32] APPEAL: doesn;t someone wants to take on PrintingRpoadmap and give it some love? Pretty please? http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/PrintingRoadmap [10:33] not me sorry, I'm overcommitted already [10:33] Kamion: a couple of month ago, i asked you to enable the mkvmlinuz call in the ubuntu-installer builds to generate the vmlinuz for chrp at least, and maybe even the two prep. [10:34] Kamion: not including them in the cds is ok, but maybe they could go in the common dvd, since there the place constraint is not as strong. [10:34] JaneW: I already hacked on gnome print, I may give it a glance but since I'm already started some work on LaunchpadINtegration, not sure how much time I have for it === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-127-161.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] JaneW: I did the "enable" browing stuff :-) === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] hello [10:40] sivang: cool, whatever you can do will help :)) [10:40] Kamion: i will fix nobootloader to pull in mkvmlinuz and make the call, so it will be complete in this way. === razr23 [~morph@p83.129.186.190.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:41] i am trying to build linux-kernel-di-386-2.6, but it (kernel-wedge) complains about missing firmwares... [10:41] kernel-wedge copy-firmware 2.6.12-rt-v0.7.51-28 386 2.6.12-rt-v0.7.51-28-386 [10:41] missing firmware atmel_at76c502.bin [10:41] any idea? i have the firmware package installed [10:42] svenl: it's a udeb bug [10:42] fabbione: please add /usr/lib/linux-image-* to the kernel-image udeb on powerpc [10:43] mdeboer: linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6 isn't the supported way to build udebs for our kernels any more; the linux-source-* source packages build them directly [10:43] Kamion: how? [10:43] mdeboer: normal package build [10:43] Kamion: hmmm is that the same we did a long time ago? [10:44] fabbione: you did it for the .deb, but not the kernel-image .udeb [10:44] Kamion: i am not sure if we can easily do that.. but i will look into it [10:44] Kamion: huh ? [10:44] Kamion: uhm... [10:44] Kamion: this time is me that don 't follow .... [10:44] svenl: please read context SURROUNDING what I said ;-) [10:45]