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| moebius_ | is ubuntujava.yimports.com discontinued? | 03:19 |
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| moebius_ | one mirror is gone and the other won't allow login | 03:19 |
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| wasabi | Pssh. | 03:30 |
| wasabi | We are unrelated to that project. | 03:31 |
| moebius_ | well, I know they are not an official ubuntu thing | 03:31 |
| moebius_ | but I thought you might be somewhat aware of their status since they are in the same area | 03:31 |
| wasabi | I had no idea they existed until you pasted that link. | 03:31 |
| moebius_ | ah | 03:32 |
| moebius_ | it's the first thing that comes up in google for "ubuntu java" | 03:32 |
| moebius_ | and it was references on ubuntuguide.com (I know, also not official) | 03:32 |
| moebius_ | er, referenced | 03:32 |
| wasabi | I dunno what this guy offers that we don't, other than a prepackaged Sun. | 03:32 |
| wasabi | Which isn't THAT hard to do yourself. | 03:33 |
| moebius_ | but most of the official java stuff isn't in hoary | 03:33 |
| moebius_ | which I gather his packages are available for | 03:33 |
| wasabi | true | 03:33 |
| moebius_ | although I'm not sure since I can't get into the repositories | 03:33 |
| moebius_ | but if they are down I guess I can try apt pinning | 03:34 |
| wasabi | Heh. THis is that project run by that guy who said we should package sUn's jdk. | 03:34 |
| wasabi | and tried to creatively ignore the license issues. | 03:34 |
| moebius_ | isn't there an official 1.5.0 package? | 03:35 |
| wasabi | For Sun? | 03:35 |
| wasabi | No. | 03:35 |
| moebius_ | at least, something I read about in backports | 03:35 |
| wasabi | Those guys are also creatively ignoring the license. | 03:36 |
| moebius_ | well, semi-official I should say | 03:36 |
| wasabi | ie not "official | 03:36 |
| moebius_ | that's the fun thing about ubuntu, like debian | 03:36 |
| moebius_ | the levels of "officialness" | 03:36 |
| moebius_ | not to knock it since I understand the issues behind it | 03:36 |
| moebius_ | but it makes the symantecs annoying sometimes | 03:37 |
| wasabi | Whatcha mean? The fact that there are third parties? | 03:37 |
| wasabi | There will always be third parties. | 03:37 |
| moebius_ | I mean regarding how some are official ubuntu supported | 03:38 |
| moebius_ | and some are ubuntu packaged but not supported | 03:38 |
| moebius_ | and some are packaged but restricted and unsupported | 03:38 |
| wasabi | Hmm. I can download Windows software packaged in .exe's from download.com | 03:38 |
| wasabi | Those aren't supported by MS. ;) | 03:39 |
| moebius_ | I understand the whole issues | 03:39 |
| moebius_ | it just sometimes makes it annoying when you're trying to talk about what is an "official" ubuntu package | 03:39 |
| wasabi | It's official if you can find it in archive.ubuntu.com | 03:39 |
| wasabi | It's supported if you can find it in main. | 03:40 |
| jbailey | g'm Jerry | 03:40 |
| wasabi | mornin | 03:40 |
| moebius_ | like how Debian has non-free stuff on servers but they carefully explain how it is there strictly as a convenience and should in no way be misconstrued to be a part of the Debian project proper, etc | 03:40 |
| moebius_ | apt-get -t breezy install eclipse-platform | 03:45 |
| moebius_ | here goes... | 03:45 |
| wasabi | I mihg tnot recommend you do that. ;) | 03:51 |
| wasabi | I don't know what other things it will pull in. | 03:52 |
| wasabi | Maybe libc or something crazy | 03:52 |
| moebius_ | hmm | 03:53 |
| moebius_ | good point. | 03:53 |
| wasabi | if anything, you can recompile it. | 03:53 |
| moebius_ | is apt-source up to snuff nowadays? | 03:56 |
| wasabi | always has been | 03:56 |
| wasabi | err | 03:56 |
| wasabi | apt-source? dunno | 03:56 |
| wasabi | apt-get source yes! | 03:56 |
| moebius_ | hmm I guess that's it | 03:57 |
| moebius_ | it's been a good while since I used Debian | 03:57 |
| moebius_ | there was a lot of working going on to try to make source installs as easy as binary installs | 03:57 |
| jbailey | I think apt-get -b source ... will download and build it for you. | 03:58 |
| jbailey | If you do a wrapper around gcc you can do ccache, tweak options, etc. | 03:59 |
| jbailey | Just have to be a bit careful then when doing an update, since with the md5sum mismatch, apt might attempt to get the pure version from the archive again. | 03:59 |
| moebius_ | well I have breezy pinned to 10 | 04:00 |
| moebius_ | so as far as I gather it shouldn't pull in anything from breezy unless I tell it to explicitly | 04:00 |
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