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| tseng | schweeb: holy crap | 01:18 |
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| tseng | schweeb: this gmime package is ANCIENT | 01:18 |
| tseng | schweeb: it makes me cry | 01:18 |
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| pef | good night ! | 01:32 |
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| comadreja | help, I updated and my spanish keyboard stopped working... I get an error "Error activating XKB configuration" | 02:05 |
| comadreja | I mean, I did a apt-get upgrade | 02:06 |
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| Burgundavia | welcome to the club | 02:15 |
| === tseng picks up little pieces of beagle off the walls | ||
| \sh | comadreja: don't reboot ,-) | 02:15 |
| \sh | my system is completely screwed...I removed xlibs..and with it, even ubuntu-desktop...and now try to install it...have to sleep and dreaming about daniels *lol* | 02:17 |
| tseng | dud | 02:17 |
| tseng | just empty /etc/X11/kbd/* and you wouldve been fine | 02:17 |
| \sh | tseng: /etc/X11/kbd doesn't exist anymore | 02:17 |
| tseng | good going | 02:17 |
| \sh | and I didn't see which package removed it :( | 02:18 |
| tseng | xlibs | 02:18 |
| bddebian | Wow, so some people are alive. So anyone care to explain UniverseUnmetDeps to me? I pulled zorp and it FTBFS's much less the unmet deps for the binary | 02:18 |
| \sh | bddebian: ftbfs with b-d? adjust debian/control, ftbfs with really serious sourcecode problem, adjust the fscking parts and provide patches in debian/patches...and adjust debian/rules for patching the source..after that: bugzilla.ubuntu.com and add the debdiff between version_in_repos with version_you_created and then provide the patch to upstream (debian upstream and source upstream) | 02:20 |
| \sh | woot...that was too much :) cu tomorrow...finally from console :) | 02:21 |
| \sh | and tseng, do me a favour, translate it into real english ,-) | 02:21 |
| bddebian | Whoa.. I know what (well sort of knowA) what to do with FTBFS problems, but what are we supposed to do about the unmet dependencies on the binaries listed on UniverseUnmetDeps ? | 02:21 |
| \sh | bddebian: unmetdeps are unmetdeps cause of the cxx trans | 02:22 |
| \sh | so...dch -v x.y.z-nbuildN | 02:22 |
| \sh | so...dch -v x.y.z-nbuildN -D breezy | 02:22 |
| \sh | or dch -i (for ubuntu version) | 02:22 |
| \sh | and don't forget to patch the source ,-) | 02:22 |
| \sh | and use bugzilla for those things..so I can get a message, and can upload all the stuff with your name and email addr....so whitelist your mail addr with elmo (w.u.c/Upload) so you can be famous ;) now off to bed..6:00pm is my time....that's 4:00 utc | 02:24 |
| \sh | 6:00am ;) | 02:24 |
| bddebian | Gnight, thanks \sh | 02:24 |
| comadreja | it's fucked up | 02:24 |
| comadreja | now, my X have a resolution like 300x200 :D | 02:25 |
| \sh | breezy is serious fcked .. yeah..really :) | 02:25 |
| \sh | dpkg-configure xserver-xorg is helping :) | 02:25 |
| bddebian | Makes those icons REALLY easy to see ;-P | 02:25 |
| \sh | but not for the apt-get remove xlibs ,-) | 02:25 |
| \sh | off to bed | 02:25 |
| bddebian | OK, now who wants to explain to me what dch -v x.y.z... etc means? I know dch changes the ChangeLog but wtf?? | 02:26 |
| jbailey | Sets the version of the changelog | 02:26 |
| jbailey | So in that case, the next upload becomes x.y. | 02:27 |
| jbailey | z | 02:27 |
| === Mithrandir tickles Jeff | ||
| === jbailey giggles and rolls on the ground | ||
| === tseng waves at Mithrandir | ||
| bddebian | Got that too. So I don't have to do anything else, just change the ChangeLog and I'm famous?? ;-P | 02:27 |
| Mithrandir | hi tseng. | 02:27 |
| tseng | bddebian: you would normally do dch -i | 02:28 |
| tseng | bddebian: to increment the changelog by 1 | 02:28 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: Not doing another midnight skinnydip? | 02:28 |
| tseng | 0ubuntu1 becomes 0ubuntu2 | 02:28 |
| tseng | -1 becomes -2 | 02:28 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: Mako tried to grab me into the sauna on my way to bed, but I'm tired and Keybuk's giving a talk at 0900 tomorrow, so. | 02:29 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: Pity. Midnight parties with mako are often worth talking about for months after. | 02:30 |
| bddebian | But if I'm not an MOTU yet, what do I do with any of this? | 02:30 |
| tseng | revu | 02:30 |
| tseng | see topic. | 02:30 |
| jbailey | WTH is xfs.ko 945k? | 02:30 |
| tseng | jbailey: dude xfs has *always* been massive | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: I know, but at the same time I would prefer to stay alive. :-) | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | and not fall asleep in the sauna or something | 02:31 |
| bddebian | Is REVU where I should put python-pyrtf that I built for tritium, also? | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | but, I'm off for sleep. It's 03:31 here now | 02:31 |
| tseng | yes | 02:31 |
| Mithrandir | so see you all around later | 02:31 |
| tseng | bye Mithrandir | 02:31 |
| jbailey | g'n Tollef! | 02:32 |
| bddebian | Later Mithrandir | 02:32 |
| bddebian | tseng: Was that yes to me? | 02:33 |
| tseng | yes | 02:34 |
| comadreja | is there any way to fix temporarily the keyboard ? | 02:35 |
| comadreja | I have no ... this symbol you use in the emails, in between of the name and the domain :) | 02:35 |
| bddebian | Shit, I gotta move my gpg key.. | 02:35 |
| tseng | hm, klammeraffe | 02:36 |
| comadreja | now, I will be able to only reply mails ! :D | 02:37 |
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| schweeb | tseng: dude, I didn't do gmime, slut | 02:54 |
| schweeb | gsf-sharp | 02:54 |
| tseng | i know | 02:54 |
| schweeb | I'll make you cry. | 02:54 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I thought this was the "friendly" distro?? ;-) | 02:56 |
| tseng | not friendly to schweeb, thats for sure | 02:57 |
| tseng | he broke gmime | 02:57 |
| schweeb | i sure did | 02:57 |
| === schweeb sets tseng on fire | ||
| tseng | he also moves tapes for a living | 02:57 |
| schweeb | h4n | 02:58 |
| schweeb | if only that were all I did | 02:58 |
| schweeb | and dude... | 02:58 |
| schweeb | 2 weeks | 02:58 |
| schweeb | I won't have to deal with tapes at all | 02:58 |
| schweeb | we're going completely to clariion disk libraries | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Hmm, maybe I DON'T wanna be an MOTU :-) | 02:59 |
| schweeb | yea, it's not a good idea... they're horrible people | 03:00 |
| schweeb | tseng likes touching little boys in bad places | 03:01 |
| bddebian | Sheesh :-) | 03:02 |
| bddebian | tseng == Michael Jackson? | 03:03 |
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| schweeb | wouldn't surprise me if Brandon Hale was one of Michael Jackson's aliases | 03:03 |
| tseng | wow what the hell | 03:04 |
| jbailey | tseng: I beleive the word you're looking for is "acquitted" | 03:06 |
| jbailey | ;) | 03:06 |
| tseng | i take the dog out for 2 minutes and schweeb is slandering me | 03:08 |
| tseng | he cant be trusted | 03:08 |
| schweeb | lol | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | of course not | 03:09 |
| schweeb | maybe you shouldn't live on the third floor | 03:09 |
| jamessan|laptop | schweeb: yay, you're helping to pay my salary | 03:09 |
| tseng | schweeb: its cheap | 03:09 |
| schweeb | jamessan|laptop: hrm? | 03:09 |
| jamessan|laptop | clariion | 03:09 |
| === jamessan|laptop works at EMC | ||
| schweeb | oh | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 03:09 |
| schweeb | I work for a large EMC customer :) | 03:09 |
| jamessan|laptop | cool | 03:09 |
| schweeb | what do you do at EMC? | 03:10 |
| jamessan|laptop | I work in Clariion's QA group, for now | 03:10 |
| schweeb | oh, nice | 03:10 |
| schweeb | we just bought like $16M worth of CDLs | 03:10 |
| jamessan|laptop | wow | 03:10 |
| schweeb | well, that probably included the support contract and installation | 03:11 |
| tseng | whiprush: so im having a hard time exploding muine + ruffle on my current builds | 03:11 |
| schweeb | jamessan|laptop: but, I work on the chrysler account for eds | 03:11 |
| jamessan|laptop | eds? | 03:11 |
| schweeb | a very very large IT corporation | 03:12 |
| schweeb | http://www.eds.com | 03:12 |
| schweeb | jamessan|laptop: you guys have purchased my lunch for the last month ;) | 03:12 |
| jamessan|laptop | neat | 03:13 |
| jamessan|laptop | man, I wish I got benefits like that :p | 03:13 |
| tseng | schweeb: vendor lunches are the best | 03:13 |
| jamessan|laptop | I just eat crappy cafeteria food | 03:13 |
| schweeb | that's why you need to work in the field | 03:13 |
| tseng | we made a challenge at work | 03:13 |
| jamessan|laptop | they should take me out to lunch after all the work I've put into this last project | 03:13 |
| schweeb | most of our EMC guys have the corporate cards | 03:13 |
| tseng | to get different vendors to buy lunch as many consecutive days as possible | 03:14 |
| schweeb | and get to expense at least one customer lunch a week | 03:14 |
| schweeb | tseng: we probably ran about 12 days | 03:14 |
| jamessan|laptop | schweeb: yeah, my roommate has one of those | 03:14 |
| schweeb | plus a few dinners | 03:14 |
| tseng | only 5 here :/ | 03:14 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 03:14 |
| tseng | but we dont do it to customers | 03:14 |
| tseng | just vendors | 03:14 |
| schweeb | we also have a good amount of Symmetrix equipment | 03:14 |
| tseng | anyone trying to sell us something better be ready to buy lunch | 03:14 |
| schweeb | but CDLs.... frigging cool | 03:15 |
| jamessan|laptop | I haven't dealt with any Symm stuff | 03:15 |
| jamessan|laptop | just spent about 4 months coming up with a new testing strategy, so we're about to start implementing that | 03:15 |
| tseng | good night schweeb and co | 03:16 |
| schweeb | what kind of testing? like against different patchlevels of client systems... or just of the clariion internal software itself | 03:16 |
| schweeb | night tseng | 03:16 |
| jsgotangco | CDL = CLARiiON? | 03:17 |
| schweeb | yea | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | jeezz | 03:17 |
| schweeb | clariion disk library | 03:17 |
| schweeb | a little different than a regular clariion | 03:17 |
| schweeb | it emulates a tape library | 03:17 |
| jamessan|laptop | this testing was specific to the rebuild/equalize stuff on the array. decided to try a more 'white box' approach, so we got to study design specs and all that to help come up with test cases | 03:17 |
| schweeb | they're built on the same frames as clariions... just a little different software | 03:18 |
| jamessan|laptop | kind of a feeler project to see if this approach is viable and how much it helps our current testing | 03:18 |
| schweeb | we have a bunch of CDLs w/ CX700 frames | 03:18 |
| schweeb | wonderful technology | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | wonderful price | 03:19 |
| schweeb | yea, we bought the SATA models | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | it pays off anyway im sure | 03:19 |
| schweeb | maxed out the frames... 55TB I believe | 03:19 |
| jamessan|laptop | too bad the SATAII stuff isn't out yet | 03:20 |
| whiprush | tseng: that sounds promising. | 03:20 |
| schweeb | jamessan|laptop: if I weren't making the money doing what I'm doing... I'd probably want to be working for EMC | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | whiprush, hey | 03:20 |
| jamessan|laptop | schweeb: they're a nice company. I've been working for them for about 3 years (co-op and full time). gonna try to move into development in the next year or so | 03:21 |
| jamessan|laptop | I'm waiting to see what happens with the Cisco. They were thinking about trying to buy us | 03:22 |
| jamessan|laptop | s/the // | 03:22 |
| schweeb | yea | 03:22 |
| schweeb | we're migrating to cisco directors currently | 03:23 |
| bddebian | I send a signed CoC to Mako right? | 03:23 |
| schweeb | yes | 03:23 |
| whiprush | hi jsgotangco! | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: planning to join us? | 03:23 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Of course | 03:23 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Are you afraid? ;-) | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | about time.. | 03:24 |
| jsgotangco | whiprush, i've read you've been dabbling with hula lately | 03:24 |
| schweeb | that reminds me, I should probably start packaging some stuff again | 03:24 |
| schweeb | been a while | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | hi jsgotangco, whiprush | 03:24 |
| schweeb | I'm such a slacker. | 03:24 |
| whiprush | jsgotangco: yup. | 03:24 |
| whiprush | hi aj! | 03:24 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch, hi how have you been? | 03:24 |
| bddebian | What is mako's e-mail to send? I can't remember what wiki page that is on?? | 03:24 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: fine, just ignore me | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | good, how about you? | 03:24 |
| === jamessan|laptop should get eventually execute his plan to join MOTU | ||
| whiprush | mako@ubuntu.com | 03:24 |
| whiprush | ajmitch: good good. | 03:24 |
| jamessan|laptop | bah, I can't compose coherent thoughts tonight | 03:24 |
| bddebian | whiprush: Thanks | 03:24 |
| jsgotangco | whiprush, what's the live hula server have? nightly builds? I don't see that much difference | 03:25 |
| whiprush | just found out the guy coordinating the new artwork team is also from my area. | 03:25 |
| schweeb | jamessan|laptop: alcohol tends to do that | 03:25 |
| whiprush | Our Loco grows! | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: would I do that? | 03:25 |
| jamessan|laptop | schweeb: I wish that was the problem | 03:25 |
| === bddebian needs to look at Locos | ||
| whiprush | jsgotangco: yeah, nightly builds. I mostly set it up so that when they check in the new web stuff I'll be ready. | 03:25 |
| schweeb | whiprush: we have the bestest loco ever | 03:25 |
| schweeb | too bad I'm lazy | 03:25 |
| === ajmitch doesn't know of other ubuntu users in his area | ||
| schweeb | cause I could actually accomplish useful stuff | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | there are some at the local LUG, I think | 03:26 |
| schweeb | tseng: are you fully gone yet? | 03:26 |
| schweeb | tseng: what's a good sample mono -cil package to use, so I can repackage gsf-sharp | 03:27 |
| bddebian | messages sent to siretart and mako... Here I go.. :-) | 03:27 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: got packages ready then? | 03:28 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: 1. Gonna work on more in a bit | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | what 1 have you done? | 03:29 |
| schweeb | haha | 03:29 |
| schweeb | nice | 03:29 |
| schweeb | gsf-sharp cvs hasn't even been modified since my last package | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: perhaps it has been moved | 03:30 |
| schweeb | doubtful | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | looks like you may be right - last change 4 months ago | 03:32 |
| schweeb | yep | 03:33 |
| schweeb | wonder if I should bother updating the package | 03:33 |
| schweeb | hell, if tseng doesn't end up using it for beagle... there's not much point on even including it | 03:34 |
| schweeb | yea, that's the exact same version that I packaged 3.5 months aog | 03:35 |
| schweeb | *ago | 03:35 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I upgraded python-pyrtf for tritium | 03:35 |
| bddebian | WHAT, there's no Pennsylvania LoCo?? WTF :-) | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: stop complaining & start one :) | 03:38 |
| comadreja | how can I change my gnome keyboard to US ? the gnome-keyboard-thingy crashes... | 03:42 |
| whiprush | bddebian: I believe tseng is from PA. | 03:46 |
| bddebian | How the hell can we already have a zorp binary when it FTBFSs? | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Listen to me use "we"... heh | 03:47 |
| bddebian | tseng: Is that true? | 03:47 |
| schweeb | whiprush: think he's in mass or maine right now though | 03:52 |
| schweeb | mass I think | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: it was built before other changes made it FTBFS? | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Seems strange | 03:57 |
| bddebian | I get "too few arguments passed to z_stream_new". But I can't find where z_stream_new is defined | 03:57 |
| bddebian | Ohh, there it is | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Heh, it FTBFSs on Debian too | 04:13 |
| === bddebian points at libzorp11 ? | ||
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| seth_k | bddebian, you got your key signed? lucky :P | 04:14 |
| bddebian | seth_k: I did? | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | you'd better have it signed by now.. | 04:15 |
| seth_k | oh, you didn't | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | you've met enough DDs | 04:16 |
| seth_k | am waiting to hear back from mako on what I am supposed to do, probably will have to get a physically signed copy notarized :/ | 04:16 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I wasn't sure what he meant. I got several signatures at FOSDEM :-) | 04:16 |
| seth_k | but he hasnt' returned my mail yet | 04:16 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: great | 04:17 |
| bddebian | seth_k: You anywhere near Philly? ;-) | 04:17 |
| seth_k | -_- | 04:17 |
| seth_k | I'm in the middle of nowhereeeee | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | seth_k: so am I - way down in NZ :) | 04:17 |
| bddebian | Fuck, stream.h does come from libzorp11 | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | except that I know there's about 4 or 5 DDs in this town | 04:18 |
| bddebian | Grr | 04:18 |
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| === bddebian hates being clueless | ||
| jbailey | ajmitch: Umm., and you went to UDU. | 04:21 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: Didn't you get enough sigs there? =) | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: sure :) | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: but in case my key gets lost/compromised, I can get it re-signed without too many troubles :) | 04:21 |
| jbailey | True | 04:23 |
| bddebian | Egads. zorp in Ubuntu is 2.0.8. Debian has 2.0.9 but upstream is 3.0.4.3 wtf.. | 04:23 |
| jbailey | What's zorp? | 04:24 |
| bddebian | A proxy firewall apparently | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: so the debian maintainer is a little behind.. | 04:24 |
| bddebian | I was just working backwards from the UniverseUnmetDeps list | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | considering that the bugs there are > 3 months old for some of them | 04:25 |
| bddebian | And considering that 3.0.4.3 was release on 4/26/2005 :-) | 04:26 |
| bddebian | s/release/released | 04:26 |
| Amaranth | anyone running xorg -41? | 04:26 |
| jbailey | PRobably just ignored it for the sarg freeze. | 04:26 |
| comadreja | Amaranth > me | 04:26 |
| Amaranth | it works? | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: all the bugs were ignored, including the FTBFS :) | 04:26 |
| comadreja | except the keyboard... yes | 04:26 |
| comadreja | I had to remap it with xmodmap | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: I've upgraded, haven't restarted the X server | 04:26 |
| Amaranth | ah yes, daniels said that would happen | 04:27 |
| jbailey | -41? Wow. | 04:27 |
| jbailey | I'm on -34 here. | 04:27 |
| Amaranth | you have to recreate a symlink | 04:27 |
| Amaranth | i'm on -36 | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | jbailey: you're about 2-3 days behind then :) | 04:27 |
| Amaranth | -34 was the first to split xserver | 04:27 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: Sounds about right. | 04:27 |
| jbailey | I usually update and reboot monday morning, and update occasionally when things I notice things I care about getting updated. | 04:28 |
| comadreja | Amaranth : did daniels say when would that be fixed _ | 04:28 |
| jbailey | (ephy, gaim, evo, etc...) | 04:28 |
| Amaranth | comadreja: You need to create an xkb symlink or something | 04:28 |
| comadreja | Amaranth : is that documented somewhere ? | 04:29 |
| Amaranth | no | 04:29 |
| Amaranth | i don't think i have logs either | 04:29 |
| comadreja | Amaranth : I need it badly | 04:29 |
| bddebian | OK, now what :-( | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Should I update the UniverseUnmetDeps wiki page? | 04:32 |
| comadreja | is there any tool that prints the keycode of the key I'm typing ? | 04:36 |
| Amaranth | xev | 04:36 |
| comadreja | thanks | 04:36 |
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| bddebian | where'd everybody go?? :-) | 04:42 |
| === ajmitch shrugs | ||
| ajmitch | I'm still at work :) | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Sorry for you :-) | 04:44 |
| seth_k | i just ate | 04:45 |
| ajmitch | it pays the bills :) | 04:45 |
| ajmitch | might even pay for me to get some computer upgrades | 04:45 |
| seth_k | or, you might consider the possibility that everyone hates you and is hiding from you, bddebian | 04:45 |
| bddebian | seth_k: Well that much is probably true | 04:46 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I feel really bad. I keep meaning to send the damn laptop.. :-( | 04:46 |
| bddebian | Anyone have any idea what TeX capacity exceeded means ? | 04:55 |
| seth_k | tweak texmf.cnf (usually located in /etc/texmf) | 04:56 |
| seth_k | give the whiner more main_memory | 04:56 |
| seth_k | or maybe it's pool_size | 04:57 |
| seth_k | increase one of those | 04:57 |
| seth_k | or both | 04:57 |
| bddebian | texmf.cnf? | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: ah, you haven't sent it yet? :) | 04:57 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: No. :'-( | 04:58 |
| === ajmitch might have time to get that new amd64 laptop then :) | ||
| seth_k | you can send me another laptop while you're at it, bddebian :D | 04:58 |
| === seth_k busted out the old 400 MHz laptop today and is setting up an Ubuntu server for Apache / SVN on it | ||
| bddebian | seth_k: Sure, I'll add you to the list :-) | 04:59 |
| seth_k | haha | 04:59 |
| seth_k | is there a story behind you having laptops lying around? | 04:59 |
| bddebian | I used to get a bunch where I used to work. My "stash" is dwindling though now that I work for a po-dunk company.. :-( | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | seth_k: companies tend to cycle through hardware every few years :) | 05:00 |
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| ajmitch | at one point I could have picked up some p3 laptops fairly cheaply from a client | 05:01 |
| bddebian | It kicked ass when I was getting a bunch of PowerBooks | 05:01 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: p3 laptops are worthless though | 05:03 |
| schweeb | slow and powerhungry | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | schweeb: dude, I've got a 400MHz p2 | 05:03 |
| schweeb | hahaha | 05:03 |
| bddebian | Hey | 05:03 |
| schweeb | you suck :p | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | it was good enough to use at UDU ;) | 05:03 |
| schweeb | I have a 1.7Ghz P4-M and a 1.5Ghz P-M | 05:03 |
| schweeb | Dell and IBM, respectively | 05:04 |
| bddebian | Damn, sounds like schweeb should be the new hardware whore.. ;-P | 05:04 |
| schweeb | well | 05:04 |
| schweeb | my Desktop is a Duron 700 | 05:04 |
| schweeb | so I don't go too overboard | 05:04 |
| seth_k | understood ajmitch, just wasn't sure if there was more of a story than that | 05:04 |
| === bddebian has too damn many computers | ||
| schweeb | that 1.7Ghz P4-M is 3+ years old | 05:05 |
| schweeb | the 1.5Ghz P-M is 1 month old | 05:05 |
| === seth_k has an Athlon XP 2000+ (desktop), Pentium M 1.6 GHz (laptop), Pentium II 400 MHz (laptop) | ||
| seth_k | the PII is trash though, screen is shot. Hence headless server time for it | 05:05 |
| bddebian | pfft | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | my desktop is similar, but 1800+ | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | the screen on my laptop looked like it was heading south at one point | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | but hasn't yet | 05:06 |
| schweeb | both of my screen hinges are broke | 05:06 |
| seth_k | I should take a picture of mine, it has this cool wavy strip down the middle | 05:06 |
| schweeb | I'm not buying another Dell laptop, ever | 05:06 |
| bddebian | 2 - 3Ghz desktops, 2 - 1Ghz laptops, 2 - p2 800mhz, 1 - 1Ghz desktop, 1 - 550Mhz desktop, and 1 lowly p2 - 450 | 05:06 |
| seth_k | schweeb: my hinges busted once, had to order new ones. | 05:06 |
| seth_k | bddebian: you suck | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: not bad | 05:06 |
| schweeb | IBM all the way | 05:06 |
| seth_k | :) | 05:06 |
| seth_k | does IBM put Windows (excuse me, Meta) keys on their notebooks yet? | 05:07 |
| schweeb | next purchase is going to be either a rackmount or a dual opteron setup | 05:07 |
| seth_k | I remember that drove me mad when I had to use one awhile back | 05:07 |
| schweeb | seth_k: no | 05:07 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah and a power hungry Compaq Proliant Dual p2-450 that I am not runnig atm | 05:07 |
| seth_k | I wonder if Lenovo will kill IBM's personal computer stuff by being crappy | 05:08 |
| bddebian | OK, all of thse LaTeX warnings are pissing me off | 05:08 |
| schweeb | seth_k: absolutely not | 05:08 |
| schweeb | it's the same equipment | 05:08 |
| schweeb | just new name | 05:08 |
| schweeb | this X41 is a Lenovo built system | 05:08 |
| schweeb | plus they're still pretty tightly associated with IBM | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | they can use the name for 5 years | 05:09 |
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| bddebian | I dunno, like Lexmark? They let those printers go to shit.. :-) | 05:09 |
| schweeb | everyone's low end printers are shit now | 05:09 |
| schweeb | lexmark makes fine higher end printers | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | HP has a policy that if 3 parts break on their low end printers, they just replace the whole thing | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | that is how little they are wroth | 05:10 |
| seth_k | I love my Canon printers. I've never had one go out on me | 05:10 |
| seth_k | they just keep on going and going and going | 05:10 |
| seth_k | their linux driver support is pretty shoddy though | 05:10 |
| bddebian | save size=5000 | 05:11 |
| schweeb | I need to get around to purchasing a laser printer one of these days | 05:11 |
| bddebian | POS | 05:11 |
| schweeb | I will print on nothing less | 05:11 |
| === bddebian looks in his basement | ||
| bddebian | Yep, got a laser printer laying around too :-) | 05:11 |
| schweeb | by laser printer, I don't mean an old hplj4 or 5 :p | 05:11 |
| seth_k | lol. bddebian: Offical Ubuntu Dev Supplier | 05:12 |
| schweeb | I mean a reasonably new one, of a decent series | 05:12 |
| bddebian | It's a 6P sheesh ;-P | 05:12 |
| schweeb | blech | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | seth_k: nah, official Hurd Dev Supplier ;) | 05:12 |
| schweeb | 4000 series at the least | 05:12 |
| schweeb | anything else is just aching for trouble | 05:12 |
| bddebian | You want the big ass ugly Lexmark from work instead since you think they work? :-) | 05:12 |
| schweeb | you know what are wonderful printers? | 05:13 |
| schweeb | Tektronix | 05:13 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Amen to that :-) | 05:13 |
| bddebian | Yes | 05:13 |
| schweeb | their color wax printers rule | 05:13 |
| seth_k | Tektronix, they made those pwnage solid-ink printers, right? | 05:13 |
| schweeb | yes | 05:13 |
| seth_k | yeah | 05:13 |
| schweeb | now owned by Xerox | 05:14 |
| bddebian | OK, I'm sick of building FreePascal already | 05:14 |
| seth_k | i loved their free black ink for the life of the printer promo | 05:14 |
| schweeb | yea | 05:14 |
| schweeb | they did the free printer deal at my last job | 05:14 |
| schweeb | that's like an $800+ printer... free | 05:14 |
| schweeb | only had to print out a report on usage at the end of every month | 05:15 |
| schweeb | I need to get my dad to try CYCAS and see if his old autocad files will open in CYCAS in Linux. | 05:15 |
| schweeb | Compatibility with DXF (and DWG?) has been a hold up for converting his desktop to Linux for years. He is still running a version of Windows 98 that was actually installed in 1998. Its the must cluttered and unstable windows desktop Ive ever known. | 05:15 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:16 |
| seth_k | heh. Anything with Windows 98 can't be the most unstable Windows ever, since Windows ME is the definition of unstable | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Tell him to upgrade to ME ;-P | 05:16 |
| bddebian | seth_k: Doh, you beat me to it.. :-) | 05:16 |
| seth_k | :D | 05:16 |
| schweeb | uuurrrgh | 05:17 |
| schweeb | sorry... middle click paste | 05:17 |
| schweeb | from blog | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | heh | 05:17 |
| schweeb | been a while since I did that | 05:18 |
| === seth_k checks mail obsessively, waiting for mako to reply | ||
| schweeb | the last laptop that always happened cause the trackpad was fucked | 05:18 |
| seth_k | click, click, click | 05:18 |
| schweeb | this time, I actually have a middle button on the laptop | 05:18 |
| schweeb | just accidentally hit it w/ my thumb while reaching for the space bar | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Oh look a reply from mako already | 05:19 |
| bddebian | j/k seth_k ;-P | 05:20 |
| seth_k | lol | 05:20 |
| seth_k | I sent him an e-mail on the 5th actually. But I suspect it was probably filtered because I forgot to clearsign, so sent him a binary attachment | 05:20 |
| seth_k | so resent it Tuesday, with an ascii attachment | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: now that you've signed it, you're bound to spend all your spare time on ubuntu, of course | 05:22 |
| === seth_k passes the time by waiting for codeslaves to rebuild everything that depends on the now-defunct libXrender.la | ||
| bddebian | ajmitch: Like I don't already? :-) | 05:25 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: not nearly enough :) | 05:26 |
| ajmitch | you probably still spend far too much time with your family :) | 05:26 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:27 |
| schweeb | heh | 05:28 |
| schweeb | I signed, and I only chat on IRC as of late :p | 05:28 |
| comadreja | howdy | 05:28 |
| comadreja | I finally got keyboard... | 05:28 |
| schweeb | which reminds me, I need to poke mako again, to check if he was able to import my key properly yet | 05:28 |
| schweeb | finalize the membership status | 05:29 |
| comadreja | what are the privileges of being member ? | 05:29 |
| Burgundavia | you get an ubuntu.com email addy, if you want | 05:30 |
| comadreja | that's cool :) | 05:30 |
| schweeb | I don't think they've set that up as of yet | 05:30 |
| bddebian | You can feel special? :-) | 05:30 |
| Burgundavia | ogra has one | 05:30 |
| schweeb | there are other bennies... you get to vote on certain stuff, etc.. | 05:30 |
| comadreja | I'll try to get my membership this tuesday | 05:30 |
| schweeb | yea, but ogra has main upload access | 05:30 |
| comadreja | let's see if they're good to me :) | 05:31 |
| schweeb | I've also heard stirrings of business cards and the like | 05:31 |
| comadreja | that would be really cool | 05:31 |
| comadreja | are you all members ? | 05:32 |
| robitaille | Burgundavia: @ubuntu.com address are tough to get... has any member got one beside ogra? | 05:32 |
| Burgundavia | no idea | 05:32 |
| seth_k | do all members present at a meeting vote to confirm new members? or just the cc... | 05:32 |
| schweeb | just the cc | 05:32 |
| schweeb | but members can vouch for people | 05:33 |
| robitaille | but we'll vote on the CC members when their term are up | 05:33 |
| crimsun | right. | 05:33 |
| bddebian | I tried to become a CC member but ogra laughed at me. ;-P | 05:34 |
| seth_k | anyone know what mako will have me do since it's unlikely I'll be able to get my key signed? Notary public + CoC? | 05:34 |
| schweeb | CC member or ubuntu member? CC is pretty tough | 05:35 |
| schweeb | seth_k: he'll figure out something | 05:35 |
| crimsun | where are you located, seth_k? | 05:35 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: why would you go for CC member? | 05:35 |
| bddebian | Hmm, maybe Ubuntu member, sorry | 05:35 |
| comadreja | Amaranth : if you talk to daniels... ask him if his ears beep. | 05:35 |
| seth_k | we talked about this once crimsun, you were maybe going to stop by on your way to Texas :P | 05:35 |
| bddebian | Eventually wanna MOTU if I can get a brain :-) | 05:35 |
| schweeb | bddebian: ubuntu member requires a decent amount of visibility and contribution | 05:35 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: ok, membership requires some existing contributions :) | 05:35 |
| bddebian | seth_k: Where are you? | 05:36 |
| seth_k | depending on the time of year (university or not), Joplin, MO or Norman, OK | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | so get working | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | :) | 05:36 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I'm trying but everything seems to be kicking my arse.. :'-( | 05:36 |
| crimsun | seth_k: I'm in MN for 4 more weeks, then I'll be in NC for a while | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | kick back then | 05:36 |
| === seth_k got confirmed last meeting for backports work, IRC, and forums :) | ||
| seth_k | bddebian: kick harder | 05:36 |
| schweeb | crimsun: you should come through MI on your way back from MN :p | 05:36 |
| seth_k | now just to get the crazy CoC signed <_< | 05:36 |
| crimsun | schweeb: I may take a weekend and just drive | 05:37 |
| crimsun | perhaps next weekend | 05:37 |
| crimsun | can't do it this weekend | 05:37 |
| schweeb | if you're anywhere between Detroit and Flint, gimme a ring | 05:37 |
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| comadreja | what's the Karma in Launchpad ? | 05:37 |
| bddebian | For example, FreePascal build is now trying to run "make -C install/demo sourceinstall" but install/demo dir doesn't exist.. :-( | 05:37 |
| seth_k | comadreja: when you do things like comment on bugs, you get karma | 05:38 |
| seth_k | afaict | 05:38 |
| crimsun | seth_k: / schweeb: we can try for next weekend | 05:39 |
| comadreja | seth_k : haven't you signed the CoC through launchpad ? | 05:39 |
| seth_k | comadreja: I have indeed | 05:40 |
| comadreja | seth_k : is that not valid for membership ? | 05:40 |
| schweeb | comadreja: he needs his key signed by more people though, I believe | 05:40 |
| seth_k | comadreja: I need my key signed to be pulled into the strong set before that signature is worth anything | 05:40 |
| crimsun | he needs to be in the strong set | 05:40 |
| crimsun | right | 05:40 |
| comadreja | and how do you get your key signed ? | 05:40 |
| schweeb | which reminds me | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | by meeting people in the strong set & getting them to sign it :) | 05:41 |
| schweeb | I hope I remember my key's password | 05:41 |
| schweeb | it's still on the other laptop | 05:41 |
| schweeb | heh | 05:41 |
| comadreja | cool :) but I mean, how can they trust you if not personally ? | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you could do a world keysigning tour | 05:41 |
| seth_k | well, you use `gpg --sign-key keyid` :P | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | comadreja: you have to have photo id - it's trusting that you are who you say you are | 05:41 |
| comadreja | I know, but that's not secure | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | eg using passport, drivers license | 05:41 |
| comadreja | ajmitch : that's more secure | 05:42 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I like that idea. I could definetly hit NZ and AU :-) | 05:42 |
| ajmitch | comadreja: it's pretty much required to maintain integrity of the strong set | 05:42 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: cool, when are you visiting? | 05:42 |
| bddebian | After I win the lottery and get divorced ;-P | 05:43 |
| comadreja | bddebian : you married ? | 05:43 |
| bddebian | comadreja: Yep, wife and 3 daughters | 05:43 |
| schweeb | hopefully the next Ubuntu conf is someplace sweet | 05:43 |
| schweeb | I plan on going | 05:43 |
| ajmitch | I hope to go, but I doubt I will | 05:44 |
| comadreja | when is it ? | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | not likely that they'd sponsor me | 05:44 |
| schweeb | right after release is it? | 05:44 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: yea, they'll probably sponsor a different set of people this time | 05:44 |
| schweeb | far diff | 05:44 |
| schweeb | hopefully I'm in a position to do something interesting and get sponsored | 05:45 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, what leads you to suspect that they will sponsor different people? | 05:46 |
| schweeb | Burgundavia: what's the point of sponsoring the same set of people every time | 05:46 |
| Burgundavia | schweeb, they are actually doing the work? | 05:47 |
| schweeb | of course all the core people will be there... and probably ogra and dholbach | 05:47 |
| schweeb | there will be different initiatives for the next conference, hence, different people | 05:47 |
| Burgundavia | true | 05:47 |
| Burgundavia | but some things will remain the same | 05:47 |
| Burgundavia | and they will sponsor the key people to the conference | 05:47 |
| schweeb | of course | 05:48 |
| schweeb | but ajmitch is worthless trash :P | 05:48 |
| schweeb | ajmitch: <3 | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: I didn't say different people, I just said not me | 05:48 |
| === ajmitch loves you too :P | ||
| Burgundavia | true | 05:48 |
| === Burgundavia hopes to be sponsored this time | ||
| === Burgundavia paid his own way to Mataro | ||
| === comadreja hopes they sponsor all of you :) | ||
| robitaille | sponsor = ??? (plane? hotel? everything?) | 05:49 |
| === bddebian hopes they have free hookers and beer | ||
| Burgundavia | robitaille, varying levels | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | I got a few days at the end of Mataro in a canonical hotel room | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | UDU was travel, accomodation & food | 05:51 |
| robitaille | sounds good. Wonder where the next one will be. | 05:53 |
| crimsun | somewhere in south america, hopefully | 05:54 |
| crimsun | brazil would totally rule | 05:54 |
| === robitaille who alsp realize that he barely has enough vacation days in a year for non-ubuntu vacations... | ||
| Burgundavia | given Breezy+1 is launchpad live, I wouldn't be surprised about brazil | 05:54 |
| bddebian | w00t, I got FreePascal debs | 05:54 |
| bddebian | dumb, dumb, DUBM | 05:55 |
| bddebian | DUMB even.. | 05:55 |
| bddebian | Shix, I forgot the 0ubuntu1 version... :'-( | 05:55 |
| robitaille | Burgundavia: that's probably a very good guess. | 05:55 |
| robitaille | any motu who wants to get mutt-ng into Ubnutu? Wasted over an hour to try to compile it last night after reading \sh blog... | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: so rebuild it, shouldn't take long :) | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | robitaille: I use mutt, so I might be tempted :) | 05:57 |
| comadreja | how can I check which one of the build-deps is the one that can't be met ? | 05:57 |
| ajmitch | use pbuilder :) | 05:57 |
| comadreja | or debuild :) I mean, there must be something else, right ? | 05:57 |
| ajmitch | have you got that setup now? | 05:57 |
| comadreja | yep | 05:57 |
| ajmitch | pbuilder runs a debuil-dep check before building | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | and only has a minimal set of packages installed | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | so you will get failures if you miss a build-dep | 05:58 |
| comadreja | yep, cool | 05:58 |
| robitaille | ajmitch: I suspect the normal mutt-ng would compile. I was getting errors trying to turn on the libesmtp option/patch in it. And of course the only debian package I would find was for experimental...and it doesn't install on Hoary :) | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | robitaille: ok, using the debs in the ITP bugreport? | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv | 06:00 |
| robitaille | ajmitch: I think so...it was getting late last night when I tried that attempt :) | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | ok | 06:01 |
| robitaille | http://packages.debian.org/experimental/mail/mutt-ng | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | ah yes, I see | 06:02 |
| === ajmitch will fetch for breezy | ||
| ajmitch | it's the top entry on the mutt-ng blog | 06:03 |
| bddebian | Damnit, what is the dhc syntax? | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | dhc? | 06:22 |
| bddebian | dch, sorry. NM, I got it :-) | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | ah | 06:23 |
| bddebian | OK, this Ubuntu crap is really hampering my pr0n time. ;-) | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | simple, give up the pr0n | 06:28 |
| ajmitch | robitaille: mutt-ng built fine on breezy | 06:29 |
| bddebian | Damn man.. :-( | 06:29 |
| bddebian | That's like asking me to give up smoking. :-) | 06:29 |
| schweeb | s/smoking/breathing | 06:34 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:34 |
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| ajmitch | night schweeb | 06:39 |
| bddebian | Gnight schweeb | 06:40 |
| bddebian | W00t, got ubuntu1 debs this time!! | 06:40 |
| seth_k | gj | 06:42 |
| bddebian | Shix, still a weird lintian error though. My orig.tar.gz must be jacked.. :-( | 06:42 |
| bddebian | Well bed time I guess. Gnight folks | 06:45 |
| crimsun | ni | 06:46 |
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| sivang | morning all! | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | hey sivang | 08:47 |
| Lathiat | ok | 08:49 |
| Lathiat | time for some glu bashing | 08:49 |
| === Treenaks hands Lathiat some glu ;) | ||
| Lathiat | is it CraZy GLUE? | 08:49 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: Crazy GLU | 08:50 |
| Lathiat | thats what i meant | 08:50 |
| Lathiat | th eE slipped | 08:50 |
| Lathiat | and woudl this tsume guy fuck off | 08:50 |
| Lathiat | he was being a dick last night too | 08:50 |
| Treenaks | urgh | 08:50 |
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| Lathiat | yay | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | snes9x didnt pollute my debdiff | 09:04 |
| Lathiat | hrm, undefined reference to `errno` | 09:05 |
| Lathiat | i thought that was like | 09:06 |
| Lathiat | a standard thing | 09:06 |
| Treenaks | Lathiat: you do need to #include stuff for it | 09:07 |
| Lathiat | yeh but youd think thatd exist already | 09:07 |
| Lathiat | might be a gcc4 change | 09:07 |
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| Lathiat | hrm | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | it still faisl to build | 09:16 |
| Treenaks | morning shaway | 09:16 |
| \sh | hey | 09:16 |
| \sh | damn..my system is completly fcked... | 09:17 |
| \sh | and all the rest is horrible borked | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | so, zutil.h does eiteher | 09:17 |
| Lathiat | #ifdef NO_ERRNO_H | 09:18 |
| Lathiat | extern int errno; | 09:18 |
| Lathiat | #else | 09:18 |
| Lathiat | # include <errno.h> | 09:18 |
| Lathiat | #endif | 09:18 |
| Lathiat | which is included from the appropriate files | 09:18 |
| === Lathiat wonders why snes9x has its own zlib anyway | ||
| \sh | to have more work when zlib is exploitable? ,-) | 09:21 |
| Lathiat | heh | 09:21 |
| Lathiat | ooh | 09:21 |
| Lathiat | theres a point | 09:21 |
| Lathiat | not that i guess it matters that much | 09:21 |
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| herve | morning | 09:22 |
| Lathiat | so | 09:23 |
| Lathiat | apparently | 09:23 |
| Lathiat | its not including it properly | 09:23 |
| Lathiat | cus after adding an include myself it works | 09:23 |
| Lathiat | hm | 09:23 |
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| cat | hey people | 09:52 |
| cat | ogra: you there? | 09:53 |
| ogra | cat, not really yet | 09:53 |
| ogra | cat, what can i do for you ? | 09:53 |
| Burgundavia | morning ogra | 09:54 |
| cat | hey listen i will love to be a ubuntu developer, | 09:54 |
| cat | do you star from some where, | 09:54 |
| ogra | great :) | 09:54 |
| ogra | wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU (and the related pages linked from there) is your startpoint.... | 09:54 |
| herve | and the Debian developer documentations | 09:55 |
| \sh | whats up with the packages...they're all borked | 09:56 |
| cat | listen ogra do i need to be sponsor like in debian? | 09:56 |
| comadreja | morning all | 09:56 |
| herve | at first, yes | 09:56 |
| cat | to upload packes, and stuff | 09:57 |
| comadreja | I'm trying to rebuid gcl, it gives lots of errors. anyone has tried ? | 09:57 |
| herve | anyway, you need people to review your work and evaluate your skills | 09:57 |
| ogra | cat, best case (if you are really smart) you become a MOTU within 4 weeks ;) so the sponsoring time might be very short :) normally it takes a bit longer | 09:57 |
| Lathiat | cat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTURecruitment | 09:57 |
| comadreja | I have solved gcc ones, but now it gives lisp errors | 09:57 |
| ogra | cat, we do everything in a team, so the team you meet in here actually is your sponsor | 09:57 |
| cat | oh nice, | 09:58 |
| cat | i'm current a Linux teacher on F.i.u florida internation university, developer on debian, but got out of it | 09:58 |
| herve | you mean you were a official debian zealot? | 09:59 |
| ogra | cat, easiest to get in is to look at the different package transition lists and start fixing packages right away... most of them need a one line dependency change in the package, its a ery easy task and you get familiar with the packages... reading the debian new maintainers guide is very helpful btw ;) | 09:59 |
| cat | yeah, | 10:00 |
| cat | i'm downloading ubuntu, so i'm gonna check the packages, and fixed bugs, and star writting documentation, for them, and help to get the docs better, and better for newbies (: | 10:00 |
| Burgundavia | cat, #ubuntu-doc for docs | 10:01 |
| cat | yeah but first i will take a look at the packages, and see what's going on with them and fixed them | 10:02 |
| ogra | ... we use dpkg-buildpackage, pbuilder and dpatch as well as the debhelper scripts and cdbs. so gaining knowledge about these tools over time would be good for you.... :) | 10:03 |
| cat | i'm good with dpkg-buildpackage pbuilder dpatch debhelper scripts | 10:04 |
| cat | i got out of debian like 2 months ago | 10:04 |
| herve | ogra, debuild? | 10:04 |
| ogra | but all the people around in here will happily help you and answer your questions as they come :) | 10:04 |
| cat | yeah, | 10:04 |
| ogra | herve, indeed... (i never use it personally though) | 10:04 |
| cat | do you mainteners get ubuntulinux.org mails ? or just normals emails such as you'r current email address from you'r ISP or gmail or whatever | 10:05 |
| === Lathiat uses debuild | ||
| herve | you don't miss the nice log output? :-) | 10:05 |
| Lathiat | saves typing -rfakeroot | 10:05 |
| ogra | lol | 10:05 |
| herve | Lathiat, and log output | 10:05 |
| Lathiat | cat: while its planned in future to get @(i think ubuntu.com), it doesnt happen at the moment | 10:05 |
| herve | cat, I use a regular email, but we were told about ubuntu.com emails | 10:05 |
| ogra | i love to type more and read the output as it scrolls by :) | 10:05 |
| cat | oh nice | 10:06 |
| Lathiat | it was planned anyway | 10:06 |
| Lathiat | no idea if its still the case | 10:06 |
| === herve thinks ogra can read the matrix | ||
| ogra | that depends on launchpad... if oits ready, every member will get a adress automatically | 10:06 |
| Burgundavia | I want hula integration with launchpad, when it is ready | 10:06 |
| ogra | cat, do you have a signed gpg key ? | 10:07 |
| cat | yes i do, | 10:07 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, talk to herzi, he makes our hula packages | 10:07 |
| ogra | cat, great :) thats the biggest hurdle for most people | 10:07 |
| cat | http://db.debian.org/fetchkey.cgi?fingerprint=E81F689C88B018FBC37CD8D01E440865872EB4E5 | 10:08 |
| cat | sorry about the spam | 10:08 |
| Lathiat | cat: why did you leave debian? | 10:09 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, I have heard hula, first stable release in sept/oct | 10:09 |
| cat | college | 10:10 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, yes, but we have prerelease packages in universe ;) | 10:10 |
| cat | but i'm back already, | 10:10 |
| ogra | cat, hey, you are near :) http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=872EB4E5&PATHS=trust+paths | 10:10 |
| cat | back on debian | 10:10 |
| cat | yeah | 10:11 |
| ogra | so about buerocracy..... | 10:11 |
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| cat | ogra: hey how long do i have to wait for the ubuntu cds to get shippeD? | 10:12 |
| Lathiat | cat: just wait, and keep waiting ;p | 10:12 |
| cat | yeah yeah yeah | 10:12 |
| ogra | you start as a member, which means you do a contribution of any kind.... (artwork, docs, wikipages.... bugfixing, helping with a package) ... you need a wikipage about you to document this a bit.... | 10:12 |
| cat | 2 months and nothing | 10:13 |
| herve | ogra, bureaucracy, not a french word for nothing ;-) | 10:13 |
| ogra | herve, ubuntucracy ? | 10:13 |
| herve | also | 10:13 |
| robitaille | cat: some people got their CDs already...some haven't received them yet (I'm in the later category...) | 10:14 |
| ogra | cat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielRobitaille thats a good example *g* | 10:14 |
| === robitaille hugs ogra | ||
| ogra | :) | 10:14 |
| herve | hey, you speak french :-) | 10:15 |
| cat | it is? | 10:15 |
| ogra | cat, after this, you put a link to your wikipage on CommunityCouncilAgenda and appear in the meeting outlined there | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TravisWatkins is a bad example | 10:15 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, what would not be a good example is that robitaille and I live in the same city and have never met | 10:15 |
| ogra | the council wants to know your intention to help on ubuntu and will approve you as a member | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | but they love me so i get in anyway | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | :D | 10:15 |
| cat | oh ok, let me star some where, | 10:16 |
| cat | let me register first | 10:16 |
| ogra | Amaranth, nope, they dont love you, they had no choice ;) | 10:16 |
| Amaranth | ? | 10:16 |
| robitaille | herve: yes I speak french | 10:16 |
| Amaranth | I wasn't even at the meeting. :D | 10:16 |
| ogra | Amaranth, you made smeg ! | 10:16 |
| ogra | :) | 10:16 |
| robitaille | Burgundavia: one day we should meet for lunch or something... | 10:17 |
| Amaranth | Actually I've missed every meeting since then too. | 10:17 |
| cat | ubuntu should do some debconf also, (: | 10:17 |
| ogra | cat, it does | 10:17 |
| ogra | cat, after every release | 10:17 |
| cat | where? | 10:17 |
| ogra | last was in sydney | 10:17 |
| Amaranth | random places | 10:18 |
| ogra | the one before near barcelona | 10:18 |
| cat | oh to much for the tickets, | 10:18 |
| ogra | nex might be either of south america, canada or germany | 10:18 |
| === Burgundavia pimps for Canada | ||
| cat | United states | 10:18 |
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| Burgundavia | never in the us | 10:18 |
| cat | y? | 10:18 |
| ogra | cat, if you did valuable work, you can get sponsoring | 10:18 |
| === Amaranth wonders how people can afford to go to these every 6 months | ||
| === Amaranth did valuable work! :) | ||
| Burgundavia | sabdfl doesn't like it | 10:19 |
| comadreja | question, why apt-cache policy show gcl version 2.6.5 and when I download the sources get 2.6.6 ? | 10:19 |
| robitaille | I didn't know that US thing... | 10:19 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, i think its the other way around... (but dont quote me on that) | 10:20 |
| herve | comadreja, probably a desync because of a fail to build from source (ftbfs) | 10:20 |
| comadreja | herve, definitely :) I'm fighting to build the sources like hell | 10:21 |
| herve | cheer up then :-) | 10:21 |
| Amaranth | gah, i forgot who has the buildLogs | 10:21 |
| Burgundavia | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html | 10:22 |
| ogra | Amaranth, or hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs for the recent ones... | 10:22 |
| Amaranth | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gcl/2.6.6-1/ | 10:23 |
| Amaranth | these are recent enough | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, didn | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | that is a cool interface | 10:23 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, yes, but i need to move it to a faster machine... its nearly unusable with big logfiles... | 10:23 |
| Amaranth | too bad it's full of bogofilter | 10:24 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, but i plan to extend it once i have some time left... to cover everything lamont covers now | 10:24 |
| Amaranth | we need a build sheriff | 10:24 |
| Amaranth | with a bat | 10:24 |
| Amaranth | ;) | 10:24 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, cool | 10:24 |
| siretart | morning | 10:25 |
| Burgundavia | morning | 10:25 |
| Amaranth | why does it keep trying to build the same version if it knows it fails? | 10:25 |
| ogra | Amaranth, becaus the archive contents could have changed between 2 builds... | 10:26 |
| ogra | so once the missing part is there it gets built automatically | 10:26 |
| Amaranth | sounds like a fix for sloppy uploading | 10:27 |
| ogra | the thing with the buildds is, power and buildtime are cheap... human interaction costs money | 10:27 |
| Amaranth | iirc one of the non-supported archs finally got their first kernel built | 10:27 |
| ogra | so you dont want someone with a bat there ;) | 10:27 |
| Amaranth | so buildtime isn't that cheap | 10:28 |
| ogra | cheaper then loan and taxes for a human.... | 10:28 |
| Amaranth | this is another one of those 'source-based upload' problems | 10:29 |
| \sh | i want to have my X back ,-) | 10:31 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 10:32 |
| === Amaranth is sticking with -36 | ||
| === \sh is stucked on the console... | ||
| Amaranth | xkeyboard-config is sitting in NEW, i guess | 10:32 |
| Amaranth | after that goes in X should work again | 10:32 |
| \sh | yesterday I just removed my xlibs ,-) | 10:32 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: must be m68k, if it took this long to build a kernel | 10:32 |
| Amaranth | how did you manage that? | 10:32 |
| Treenaks | \sh: the dummy package? :) | 10:32 |
| \sh | well it was broken, i tried to fix it..and then..ubuntu-* gone...X gone...and after that, no install worked for me...dep problems | 10:33 |
| \sh | neither gnome nor kde can't be installed cause of the dep problems with X etc. | 10:34 |
| Amaranth | wow, wtf did you do? | 10:34 |
| \sh | apt-get remove broken_xlibs ,-) | 10:34 |
| \sh | Y | 10:34 |
| Amaranth | install xbase-clients 6.8.2-36 | 10:34 |
| \sh | *bang* | 10:35 |
| Amaranth | err, it was xlibs? | 10:35 |
| === Amaranth looks at the -41 packages | ||
| \sh | actually all depending packages were removed...3/4 of kde 3/4 of gnome | 10:35 |
| Amaranth | installing ubuntu-desktop gets you what? | 10:35 |
| \sh | problems | 10:35 |
| \sh | gdm not installable | 10:35 |
| Amaranth | trace it to the source | 10:36 |
| \sh | gnome-system-monitor not installable .. libgksuui1.0-0 is the problem | 10:36 |
| herve | my rule is: never force removal of ubuntu-base/desktop, always keep it installed | 10:36 |
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| \sh | My name is Arnold and I'll be back ,-) | 10:36 |
| Amaranth | gah, synaptic is totally locked up with a blank window | 10:36 |
| ogra | guys get amd64, its not broken here (thanks to the broken buildds) ;) | 10:38 |
| \sh | hmm..how can I tell apt-get to install a special rev of a package? | 10:38 |
| comadreja | \sh : with apt/preferences | 10:38 |
| comadreja | \sh : you can pin packages | 10:39 |
| === \sh waves to ogra, ask him to send him hundreds of thousand of those coloured printed notes called EURO ,-) | ||
| Amaranth | apt-get install libgkuiui/hoary :P | 10:39 |
| Amaranth | that's odd | 10:39 |
| ogra | \sh, hey amd64 are cheap :) | 10:39 |
| Amaranth | it can't be libgksuui | 10:39 |
| Amaranth | it has to be xbase-clients | 10:40 |
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| \sh | yeah this too | 10:40 |
| \sh | xpdyinfo? | 10:40 |
| \sh | xhost? | 10:40 |
| Amaranth | which is not installable | 10:40 |
| Amaranth | those are all NEW | 10:40 |
| \sh | ogra: not with a ex-wife | 10:41 |
| Amaranth | you want xbase-clients 6.8.2-36 | 10:41 |
| Amaranth | then you should be fine | 10:41 |
| \sh | actually I can't even afford a running breezy... | 10:41 |
| \sh | i need to tell apt-get now, to revert to 6.8.2-36 for all deps of X | 10:42 |
| comadreja | \sh : man apt_preferences | 10:42 |
| comadreja | \sh : there you'll find downgrade stuff | 10:42 |
| cat | can someone shiped me an ubuntu cd, as soon as possible if you can i'm stuck with out a burner and don't really know anyone who has a burner, | 10:43 |
| comadreja | \sh, but what's your problem, I upgraded yesterday... and only lost the keyboard mapping :) | 10:43 |
| Amaranth | you want to mark the 6.8.2-36 version as 1001 priority | 10:43 |
| Amaranth | Package: xbase-clients | 10:44 |
| Amaranth | Pin: version 6.8.2-36 | 10:44 |
| Amaranth | Pin-Priority: 1001 | 10:44 |
| Amaranth | i think | 10:44 |
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| comadreja | Amaranth : that's right | 10:44 |
| Amaranth | ok, slap that in /etc/apt/preferences and you should be good to go | 10:46 |
| Amaranth | "He's a world-famous drug-addicted gangster with a secret. She's a virginal goth cab driver with someone else's memories. They fight crime!" | 10:48 |
| Treenaks | Amaranth: that must be GOOD crack you're having | 10:48 |
| === Amaranth stole it from a .sig | ||
| Treenaks | Amaranth: it sounds like polygen-output | 10:49 |
| Amaranth | sadly, it sounds like a real tv-series pitch | 10:49 |
| \sh | no... | 10:51 |
| \sh | i need something to smoke... | 10:51 |
| \sh | no...doesn't work | 11:06 |
| Treenaks | \sh: crack? | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | Doesn't work? Does it sit on the coach and watch TV? Is it on IRC all day? Does it want more money? | 11:07 |
| \sh | depends on xlibs...but not installable | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | err, couch | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | so pin xlibs to 6.8.2-36 | 11:08 |
| \sh | i did | 11:08 |
| Amaranth | and? | 11:09 |
| Amaranth | follow the trail | 11:09 |
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| \sh | the trail is long...libxft1 xlibs-data etc. | 11:10 |
| Amaranth | follow the trail or get no X until things get NEWed | 11:12 |
| \sh | lol | 11:12 |
| \sh | xlibs-data is refered by another package, but is not availabe...it's replaced by one of the following: libx11-6 | 11:12 |
| \sh | apt-cache show libx11-6 -> Replaces: xlibs-data (<< 6.8.2-34) | 11:13 |
| \sh | apt-get install libx11-6 | 11:13 |
| \sh | is not available...but is being replaced by xlibs-data | 11:13 |
| \sh | *rotfl | 11:13 |
| \sh | that reminds me of my nightmare from last night | 11:14 |
| \sh | god sat on one of the clouds in the sky...he's smiling and he's bored...so he throws xorg-packages to the people down on earth | 11:15 |
| \sh | and he's waiting for someone...finally he found one... | 11:16 |
| \sh | then I woke up, wet and sweating..not a funny dream...man | 11:17 |
| Amaranth | yeah, the things xbase-clients needs aren't even close to getting out to you | 11:17 |
| Amaranth | <daniels> Amaranth: sitting in ~daniels, more like it | 11:17 |
| \sh | and I had the imagination, God was wearing a shirt...with "I'm the reincarnation of daniels...and I love you all" ;) | 11:18 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 11:18 |
| Treenaks | \sh: "Here, have some fresh xorg crack" | 11:19 |
| \sh | pipe-get update | 11:22 |
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| herve | help me: what is the compile environment package name again? | 11:52 |
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| pef | hi | 11:54 |
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| comadreja | herve : do you mean pbuilder ? | 12:04 |
| herve | no, build-essential | 12:05 |
| herve | 10 minutes to recall it... | 12:05 |
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| comadreja | what has happened to libXrender.la ? | 01:13 |
| Amaranth | dunno | 01:15 |
| Amaranth | the render devel package not having it is NOTABUG | 01:15 |
| comadreja | I'm trying to build gnome-terminal and get this | 01:15 |
| comadreja | grep: /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory | 01:15 |
| comadreja | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' is not a valid libtool archive | 01:15 |
| Amaranth | ask daniels where it went | 01:16 |
| comadreja | ./bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory | 01:16 |
| ogra | Amaranth, <seb128> daniels: you know about #12705 , right? | 01:27 |
| ogra | <daniels> seb128: yeah. feature, not a bug. :) | 01:27 |
| ogra | <seb128> daniels: how do I fix the builds so? | 01:27 |
| ogra | <seb128> daniels: ie gnome-control-center ftbfs on that | 01:27 |
| ogra | <daniels> seb128: grep libXrender.la /usr/lib/*.la, rebuild every lib which references it | 01:27 |
| ogra | looks like another little transition.... | 01:28 |
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| comadreja | yes, I'm having trouble with gnome-terminal too | 01:29 |
| comadreja | it doesn't build neither | 01:29 |
| ogra | why do you build gnome-terminal ? | 01:29 |
| comadreja | I'm working on but 1219 malone | 01:30 |
| comadreja | s/but/bug | 01:30 |
| ogra | that bug is in the wrong bugtracker, grmpf, its a main bug | 01:31 |
| comadreja | wasn't malone suposed to replace bugzilla ? (don't blame me, not my fault) | 01:32 |
| ogra | not yet | 01:33 |
| ogra | main still uses bugzilla | 01:33 |
| comadreja | is there any workaround for this libXrender thingy ? | 01:34 |
| ogra | comadreja, please talk to seb128 about it, if he thinks this needs a fix, he'll welcome your patch, i'm sure :) | 01:34 |
| ogra | (gnome-terminal that is) | 01:34 |
| comadreja | sure, thanks | 01:35 |
| comadreja | oh, and I belong to the ubuntu gnome team, so I thought I could get it | 01:38 |
| ogra | sure, but it should be coordinated by the teamlead... which s seb128 currently afaik | 01:41 |
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| Amaranth | it's yelling at itself | 01:58 |
| Amaranth | saying stuff is deprecated | 01:58 |
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| \sh | re | 02:19 |
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| bddebian | Good morning | 04:31 |
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| bddebian | Heya ivoks | 04:33 |
| ivoks | hey | 04:35 |
| siretart | bddebian: I added your key to the revu keyring | 04:39 |
| siretart | hi folks | 04:39 |
| siretart | can anyone confirm that kde headers are uninstallable in breezy atm? I get this in current pbuilder: http://paste.debian.net/1192 | 04:40 |
| bddebian | Hi siretart. I saw that, thank you! | 04:44 |
| bddebian | siretart: Give me a minute and I'll check | 04:46 |
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| bddebian | siretart: Was that just an apt-get kdelibs4-dev on breezy? | 04:58 |
| siretart | bddebian: in fact it was a pbuilder try on kvirc, but a simple 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev' fails for me, too | 04:59 |
| tvo | siretart: I can confirm that, got the exact same error with pbuilder | 04:59 |
| Amaranth | it seems to be installable for me | 05:00 |
| Amaranth | with apt-get | 05:00 |
| siretart | damn | 05:00 |
| jbailey | ogra: Around? | 05:00 |
| Amaranth | I have the latest X, if it makes a difference. | 05:00 |
| siretart | jbailey: is there a status update for java policy yet? | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I can get them too | 05:00 |
| jbailey | siretart: No, although I'm just chatting about Java stuff with two new people in #ubuntu-java who want to help out. | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Java?? ewwww | 05:01 |
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| siretart | jbailey: I don't have that much time for that, but I'll listen | 05:01 |
| siretart | the debian maintainer also didn't respond to my patch yet :( | 05:03 |
| siretart | ok, kdelibs4-dev is not installable because xorg is broken in breezy. thats the reason | 05:03 |
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| herve | re | 05:32 |
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| ogra | hmm, did i see kismet in my inbox ? | 05:33 |
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| bddebian | Heya herve | 05:34 |
| SEBest | anyone has a clue about what does "wrt" means in this sentence?: | 05:34 |
| SEBest | Your guess is as good as mine wrt to Samba 4's release date :-) | 05:34 |
| ogra | with regard to | 05:35 |
| SEBest | thanx ogra! | 05:35 |
| herve | any xorg fix on the run, | 05:36 |
| herve | (that was an attemp to type a question mark) | 05:36 |
| ogra | try again | 05:36 |
| ogra | :) | 05:36 |
| herve | ,,, | 05:37 |
| herve | :-) | 05:37 |
| ogra | i borrow you some : ??? | 05:37 |
| ogra | herve, get an amd64, we dont have such probs | 05:37 |
| herve | thanks, you're a pal | 05:37 |
| herve | no, you have others! | 05:37 |
| ogra | (since the buildds are borked) | 05:38 |
| herve | hehe | 05:38 |
| SEBest | use a mips :) | 05:38 |
| ogra | SEBest, no linux driver for my 3D card on my mips... | 05:39 |
| herve | currently i'd like a sgi turned into a fridge (genuine) | 05:39 |
| ogra | :( | 05:39 |
| ogra | SEBest, not even console mode... | 05:39 |
| SEBest | ogra: mine doesn't even have a video card! :d | 05:39 |
| ogra | i have a neato indigo2 that collects the dust since years.... | 05:39 |
| SEBest | anyway with it's 250Mhz, that's better! | 05:39 |
| SEBest | ogra, i have a cobalt nasraq that serves my file on a daily basis | 05:40 |
| siretart | comadreja: ping | 05:40 |
| SEBest | and it even give me the date/time with it's neat lcd display | 05:40 |
| siretart | comadreja: I uploaded kismet in your name | 05:41 |
| slomo | is it possible that some xorg headers are currently broken? | 05:41 |
| ogra | SEBest, cool | 05:41 |
| herve | slomo, to say the least ;-) | 05:41 |
| ogra | slomo, yes | 05:41 |
| ogra | libxrender afaik | 05:41 |
| herve | someone tried xorg -42? | 05:41 |
| ogra | or was it randr ? | 05:42 |
| ogra | hmm | 05:42 |
| slomo | ok, wonderful ;) for me it's libxext-dev (/usr/include/X11/extensions/Xdbeproto.h and /usr/include/X11/extensions/Xdbe.h) | 05:42 |
| siretart | slomo: yes, I tried to check a kde package (kvirc) but it ftbfs because of xorg headers breakage | 05:43 |
| siretart | I assume it will be fixed soon | 05:43 |
| slomo | siretart: http://yggdrasil.sytes.net/files/debdiff/ do you have some time to look at this debdiffs? they're all really simple | 05:49 |
| siretart | slomo: excellent! will look at them in a minute | 05:50 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: will the edubuntu daily build be useful enough to draft a documentation structure? | 05:50 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, lets see if we get one thats actually useful... the first build seems broken | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: im worried about the time hehe... | 05:52 |
| ogra | me too | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | having yelp for the initial release would make things a bit easier though | 05:53 |
| siretart | gnarf | 05:54 |
| siretart | ghc6 is uninstallabe because of libgmp3 being renamed to libgmp3c2 :/ | 05:54 |
| ogra | edubuntu is ubuntu with: edu desktop software, ltsp support, content filter, moodle and schooltool.... so yelp is there ;) | 05:54 |
| herve | i want this: http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/ | 05:57 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: yeah but you know how some people in docteam hate yelp | 05:58 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 05:58 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, i already managed to write yelp helpfiles, whats o difficult there ? | 05:59 |
| ogra | its just xml | 06:00 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: long story hehee i really like yelp as it is | 06:00 |
| ogra | oki... i dont know how much of the ubuntu docs will apply for edubuntu... | 06:00 |
| Lathiat | so.. | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | to get libaa, libaa-dev in | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | who needs poking | 06:01 |
| Lathiat | cus broken sdl is annoying me | 06:01 |
| === herve takes a deep breath | ||
| jsgotangco | ogra: not much really, as everything would be written from scratch | 06:01 |
| ogra | if someone prepares a package i'll upload it.. i'm just a bit short on time with my pbuilders, so i cant testbuild... | 06:01 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, i think a lot of the desktop dc can go in right away | 06:02 |
| ogra | s/dc/docs | 06:02 |
| jsgotangco | oh alright then the specifics would be the ltsp/networking stuff then along with the app specific docs? | 06:03 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, no idea yet... keep in mind we'll target teachers for administration.... | 06:04 |
| ogra | ltsp should work out of the box, with no additional user/admin interaction.... | 06:04 |
| siretart | slomo: you are whitelisted and get mails from katie, do you? | 06:04 |
| jsgotangco | arrghh theres so much to think about and we dont have a cd yet :) | 06:05 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, the first release must not be perfect.... | 06:05 |
| ogra | very good is enough ;) | 06:05 |
| jsgotangco | but it should be usable should it? :P | 06:05 |
| ogra | yep :) | 06:06 |
| jsgotangco | im cool on that | 06:06 |
| slomo | siretart: yes | 06:08 |
| slomo | siretart: first one has arrived ;) | 06:09 |
| siretart | slomo: ok. so please remove the debdiff from your webspace to avoid duplicate efford :) | 06:09 |
| slomo | ok | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | im going to sleep well good night | 06:10 |
| siretart | uploading gtkhtml | 06:10 |
| siretart | slomo: thanks for your good work! | 06:11 |
| pef | someone can have a look a my packages ? they are very nearly ok ;) http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=134 http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=130 | 06:14 |
| siretart | slomo: you may remove librep, too | 06:17 |
| siretart | slomo: I cannot find a source package for dbus-mono in breezy? Do I am blind? | 06:20 |
| slomo | siretart: yes you are ;P http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/dbus-mono | 06:21 |
| pef | siretart: do you need help for packaging games ? | 06:23 |
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| siretart | pef: I'd rather need a 96h day ;) | 06:24 |
| herve | not better | 06:24 |
| siretart | slomo: dbus-mono is in main. please poke tseng for reviewing and uploading it, since this package is one of his babys anyway | 06:25 |
| pef | siretart: very popular wish :) | 06:25 |
| siretart | hi herve | 06:25 |
| herve | hello | 06:25 |
| slomo | siretart: ok, sorry... i'll check if a package is main in the future... | 06:26 |
| siretart | slomo: no need to be sorry, if you are doing work in main, it is appreciated, too! | 06:26 |
| siretart | slomo: the only difference is that you need an uploader for main, and they tend to be a lot more busy then the humble motu ;) | 06:27 |
| slomo | siretart: sure... but when i forget checking if it's in main the same as last time will happen ;) | 06:27 |
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| herve | hey ivoks! | 06:36 |
| ivoks | hey herve | 06:37 |
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| Mez | godamnit | 06:38 |
| Mez | I just close over half of the critical bugs in malone for ubuntu | 06:39 |
| ivoks | :) | 06:39 |
| ivoks | i'm hanging on bugzilla :) | 06:39 |
| Mez | shouldnt MOTU stuff be in malone though | 06:39 |
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| siretart | ivoks: I just rechecked the wifi-radar <-> wpasupplicant situation | 06:40 |
| siretart | ivoks: the version in breezy is in fact able to create pid files, as expected from wifi-radar | 06:41 |
| siretart | ivoks: the only problem is the location of the configfile for wpasupplicant /etc/wpasupplicant.conf vs /etc/wpasupplicant/wpasupplicant.conf | 06:41 |
| ivoks | siretart: ok | 06:41 |
| ivoks | will you fix it or should I? | 06:42 |
| ivoks | it isn't a problem... | 06:42 |
| siretart | oh, wpasupplicant in breezy actually wants the config in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf | 06:43 |
| siretart | again different from me :/ | 06:43 |
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| siretart | ivoks: as you wish. | 06:43 |
| ivoks | hm.. there is a bug in wifi-radar rules too | 06:43 |
| ivoks | i'll fix it | 06:44 |
| siretart | ok | 06:44 |
| ivoks | siretart: wpa doesn't create .conf | 06:47 |
| siretart | does anyone know what ircname Chris Halls has? | 06:47 |
| ivoks | Mez: yes, i don't know why I'm helping main devs :) | 06:48 |
| siretart | ivoks: yes. the user must create it. I found the location in /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant | 06:48 |
| Mez | ivoks: lol I'm suprised those critical bugs were still there though | 06:48 |
| Mez | even though they were fixed | 06:48 |
| siretart | ivoks: this is on purpose. without config file, wpasupplicant isn't started, which is the state after having it installed | 06:48 |
| ivoks | Mez: i'll work on malone from now one.. | 06:48 |
| ivoks | siretart: i see | 06:48 |
| Mez | lol | 06:48 |
| Mez | work on both :D | 06:49 |
| ivoks | you think? | 06:49 |
| ivoks | i don't know... too many foolish bugs :) | 06:49 |
| siretart | deluxe it would be if the user could specify the location of wpasupplicant.conf in wifi-radar.conf | 06:49 |
| siretart | but thats an upstream wishlist and in no way necessary for you to do, ivoks :) | 06:50 |
| ivoks | notice upstream uses WHISHLIST, not WISHLIST :) | 06:51 |
| comadreja | my xserver is fucked up again | 06:52 |
| comadreja | now seriously | 06:52 |
| ivoks | that was a bug in rules =< ubuntu3 | 06:52 |
| ivoks | fixed in 4 | 06:52 |
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| ivoks | ok, i'm getting better in packaging | 06:56 |
| ivoks | dpatch is awsome tool | 06:56 |
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| ivoks | ok, now, please review wifi-radar | 06:58 |
| ivoks | this is final edition, i guess | 06:58 |
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| ivoks | malone needs new certificate | 07:00 |
| herve | by the way, malone should be final version now | 07:02 |
| ivoks | Mez: bugs on bugzilla are easier :) | 07:03 |
| uniq | anyone up for reviewing kio-apt in revu? :) | 07:10 |
| slomo | what's the easiest way in rules to get the current architecture? | 07:11 |
| Mez | why are bugs on bugzilla easier? | 07:11 |
| uniq | slomo: you can use uname? | 07:11 |
| slomo | uniq: doesn't work when crosscompiling | 07:12 |
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| slomo | Unfrgiven: and on x86 we have i386, i486, i586 and i686 ;) | 07:13 |
| slomo | ok found it... dpkg-architecture | 07:14 |
| === bddebian sets to build FreePascal AGAIN... :-( | ||
| herve | bye | 07:16 |
| bddebian | Damn, am I scaring everyone away again? :-) | 07:17 |
| uniq | heh. not me. | 07:18 |
| uniq | i'm preparing for party. | 07:18 |
| bddebian | w00t | 07:18 |
| uniq | more beer. | 07:18 |
| uniq | :) | 07:18 |
| JanC | bddebian : when will FPC be available ? :) | 07:19 |
| bddebian | Well it built yesterday but lintian was failing | 07:19 |
| bddebian | Now, I am getting this: | 07:19 |
| bddebian | dpkg-source: building fpc in fpc_2.0.0-1ubuntu1.dsc | 07:19 |
| bddebian | dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source | 07:19 |
| uniq | try to clean the source before building again. | 07:21 |
| uniq | or unpack the orig.tar.gz and patch with the diff. | 07:21 |
| bddebian | Shit | 07:24 |
| uniq | what? | 07:24 |
| bddebian | I suck :-) | 07:25 |
| uniq | well.. i'm off. beer and chicks. :) | 07:30 |
| seth_k | bddebian: a lot of times that means mismatched timestamps on binary files | 07:31 |
| === ogra applauds slomo for breezy-changes presence :) | ||
| ivoks | bddebian: every begining is hard :) | 07:37 |
| slomo | ogra: thanks :) later comes a new librep package which compiles even on ppc ;) | 07:38 |
| ogra | slomo, wow, great work :) | 07:39 |
| siretart | abolutly. slomo really rocks! | 07:39 |
| ogra | yay | 07:41 |
| slomo | thanks all :) hmm, is anyone here who has access to an ia64 machine and has the time to check a package? | 07:42 |
| ogra | slomo, that'd be lamont... | 07:43 |
| bddebian | I wish. Wanna send me one? | 07:43 |
| bddebian | :-) | 07:43 |
| ogra | or probably jbailey | 07:43 |
| ivoks | slomo: i have | 07:43 |
| jbailey | ogra: Hmm? | 07:44 |
| ivoks | doh, not anymore :( | 07:44 |
| ogra | jbailey, ia64 ? | 07:44 |
| jbailey | Yup. Build test? | 07:44 |
| slomo | yes | 07:44 |
| === bddebian should buy an ia64 and a G5 :-) | ||
| ogra | slomo, meet the famous jbailey ;) | 07:44 |
| slomo | i'll upload a new librep package to revu in a few minutes... can you check whether it works on ia64? | 07:44 |
| jbailey | bddebian: If you can afford that, come to OLS instead. | 07:44 |
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| bddebian | jbailey: OLS isn't a cost issue, its a time issue with work.. :-( | 07:44 |
| jbailey | sladen: Sure. Where will you upload to? | 07:44 |
| slomo | ogra: i already know him ;) | 07:44 |
| ogra | slomo, joking :) | 07:45 |
| sistpoty | hi all | 07:45 |
| ogra | jbailey, http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | 07:45 |
| bddebian | Hello sistpoty | 07:45 |
| siretart | slomo: I don't have acces to ia64 | 07:45 |
| siretart | huhu sistpoty | 07:45 |
| jbailey | ogra: Thanks. | 07:45 |
| jbailey | slomo: Just ping me when it's there. | 07:45 |
| bddebian | OK, I have FreePascal. Throw it on REVU? | 07:45 |
| jbailey | I'm wrestling with my laptop and firmware loading atm. | 07:45 |
| bddebian | :-) | 07:45 |
| siretart | bddebian: how big were your changes? | 07:46 |
| bddebian | siretart: None actually other than moving two directories | 07:46 |
| siretart | is anyone using module-assistant on breezy here? | 07:46 |
| siretart | sistpoty: do you use it perhaps? | 07:46 |
| siretart | bddebian: please don't upload to revu then. please create a debdiff and tell us where to pick it up | 07:47 |
| sistpoty | erm... no, had used it once or twice on unstable | 07:47 |
| siretart | bddebian: thats much easier for us to review | 07:47 |
| bddebian | HOw do I create a debdiff? | 07:47 |
| siretart | bddebian: debdiff <origpackage>.dsc <yourpackage>.dsc | 07:48 |
| sistpoty | gna.. I'm sitting here without x and can't get it installed again :( | 07:48 |
| bddebian | siretart: There was no Debian package for <origpackage>.dsc??? | 07:48 |
| ivoks | bddebian: and - use dpatch allways :) | 07:48 |
| siretart | sistpoty: did you build your kernel with kernel-package? do you think you could try my merged module-assistant package? | 07:48 |
| bddebian | And no patches | 07:48 |
| sistpoty | siretart yes i did and yes i could... where can i find it? | 07:49 |
| siretart | I did some very intrusive merging, and I want at least one person to have it tested | 07:49 |
| siretart | just a moment | 07:49 |
| slomo | jbailey: is the stack on ia64 upwards growing? | 07:50 |
| jbailey | sladen: No, it grows down. | 07:50 |
| jbailey | (Acc. to stackinfo.h) | 07:50 |
| siretart | sistpoty: http://siretart.tauware.de/ubuntu-packages/module-assistant/ | 07:51 |
| siretart | sistpoty: btw, I reviewed your kvirc package, looks fine, but as xorg is currently broken, it wont build. Will upload it as soon xorg is working again | 07:51 |
| slomo | jbailey: ok... where's this file? ;) | 07:51 |
| siretart | bddebian: ah, so you packaged NEW stuff? | 07:52 |
| bddebian | siretart: It was from UniverseCandidates but the guy already had a debian dir with all the rules etc | 07:52 |
| siretart | bddebian: then upload it to revu, that what its for. I thought you made only small changes to an existing package already in the archive | 07:52 |
| siretart | ah, I see. ok, then its certainly perfect for revu | 07:53 |
| jbailey | slomo: In the glibc sources. =) | 07:53 |
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| sistpoty | siretart: thanks :) i hope that xorg will be fixed really soon :) | 07:54 |
| siretart | sistpoty: I heard xorg was already fixed, and is currently being autobuilt | 07:54 |
| sistpoty | :) | 07:54 |
| sistpoty | gogogo, autobuilder ;) | 07:55 |
| ivoks | yay!!! it's back!!! animal returned! | 07:55 |
| ivoks | sorry for noise, but this is great news... | 07:55 |
| siretart | ah, xorg -42 already hit my mirror. | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | NO | 07:56 |
| ivoks | yes :) | 07:56 |
| siretart | sistpoty: what xorg revision do you use? | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | STOP | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | STAY AT -36! | 07:56 |
| ivoks | Amaranth: bad xorg? :) | 07:56 |
| ivoks | why? :) | 07:56 |
| ivoks | we live on edge :) | 07:56 |
| siretart | Amaranth: -42 is broken, too? | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | xbase-clients it fucked for at least another week | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | err, is | 07:56 |
| sistpoty | siretart: currently none. me stupid wanted to reinstall it, because xkb was broken | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | daniels said if he worked non-stop over the weekend and had no problems at all he might be able to get it done tuesday | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | neither one of those are going to happen so we'll be waiting awhile | 07:57 |
| ivoks | lol | 07:57 |
| siretart | fuck | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | http://i-understand.com/xbase-clients_6.8.2-36_i386.deb | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | *cough* | 07:58 |
| siretart | hm. perhaps it would be wise to apt-pin on -36 | 07:59 |
| Amaranth | yes | 07:59 |
| ivoks | eh, too late :) | 08:00 |
| siretart | hmrpf | 08:00 |
| sistpoty | you name it... | 08:00 |
| ivoks | let's try it :) | 08:01 |
| sistpoty | hmpf... no luck with the old xbase-clients :(... well at least I'll learn how to use bitchx ;) | 08:03 |
| sistpoty | who needs windows anyways *g* | 08:03 |
| ogra | sistpoty, microsoft... | 08:03 |
| sistpoty | hrhr | 08:04 |
| siretart | hm. after "sudo mkdir -p /etc/X11/xkb/types" xlibs -42 could be configured correctly | 08:04 |
| jamessan|work | sistpoty: don't bother. use irssi | 08:04 |
| siretart | yay, irssi rocks | 08:04 |
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| ivoks | well | 08:04 |
| ivoks | works for me | 08:04 |
| sistpoty | siretart: do i need to be root to use module-assistant? | 08:04 |
| siretart | but I'm using it only in a chroot anyway. | 08:04 |
| ivoks | sistpoty: yes | 08:04 |
| siretart | sistpoty: fakeroot should be sufficient | 08:04 |
| ivoks | khm...? | 08:05 |
| siretart | it depends on the module, I think | 08:05 |
| ivoks | fakeroot for module install? | 08:05 |
| sistpoty | hm... if I want to do module-assistant update it tries to create "/modass" (and has no rights for it) | 08:05 |
| ivoks | only root can install modules | 08:05 |
| sistpoty | shouldn't this be in /usr/src? | 08:05 |
| siretart | hrmpf. yes, it better should be there.. | 08:06 |
| sistpoty | siretart: mom. i'm still checking. | 08:06 |
| sistpoty | hm... it did create something somewhere (now with sudo) but I have no clue, where | 08:07 |
| sistpoty | ah... /var/cache/modass ... maybe this should belong to group src | 08:08 |
| ivoks | hm, no... | 08:08 |
| ivoks | rather that package need fixing | 08:09 |
| siretart | gnarf, got the mistake | 08:09 |
| sistpoty | ivoks: this are only the ".avail_version" files... not the module-sources | 08:10 |
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| siretart | sistpoty: please redownload the source | 08:10 |
| slomo | jbailey: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=137 | 08:10 |
| slomo | can someone on amd64 also test this? | 08:11 |
| jbailey | slomo: Just updating my chroot,just a sec. | 08:12 |
| siretart | slomo: err, your change is for ia64, no amd64 | 08:12 |
| siretart | slomo: ia64 is not an release arch for breezy anyway.. | 08:12 |
| slomo | siretart: yes but i want to know whether the package also works on amd64 or if it fails with the same error as ppc/ia64 ;) | 08:13 |
| siretart | building.. | 08:13 |
| siretart | slomo: package building fine in my amd64 pbuilder | 08:16 |
| slomo | siretart: ok, fine :) when it also works on ia64 it works on every architecture we support ;) | 08:17 |
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| siretart | slomo: ia64 is not an release arch for breezy, but ppc is | 08:18 |
| jbailey | siretart: Oh? I thought ia64 might be close enough. | 08:18 |
| siretart | jbailey: I havn't heard anything about ia64 support for breezy on the mailling list | 08:18 |
| siretart | jbailey: perhaps I overlooked something, though. | 08:19 |
| sistpoty | siretart: module-assistant still builds /var/cache/modass on module-assistant update, and this belongs to root:root | 08:19 |
| siretart | sistpoty: what I did: I took the autoatic merged source package from here http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/module-assistant/ and wiggeled the _dropped patch into it | 08:20 |
| siretart | this is dangerous anyway, I know | 08:20 |
| sistpoty | siretart: well i' | 08:20 |
| siretart | perhaps I should start over from plain debian package and adapt it to ubuntu environment | 08:20 |
| sistpoty | + ll try to build nvidia-module with it... | 08:21 |
| sistpoty | siretart: maybe | 08:21 |
| bddebian | Oh man, I have to rebuild again with -S -sa -rfakeroot? | 08:21 |
| bddebian | siretart: Do I need to build with -S -sa -rfakeroot to dump up to REVU? | 08:23 |
| === bddebian has sooo much to learn :-( | ||
| sistpoty | siretart: well building nvidia-module + installing it worked (with sudo) | 08:24 |
| siretart | bddebian: yes please | 08:24 |
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| bddebian | Shix | 08:24 |
| siretart | sistpoty: hm. then to package could be fine anyway.. hmm | 08:25 |
| bddebian | siretart: Thanks. I usually use -us -tc. Should I drop those? | 08:25 |
| siretart | what is -tc? | 08:25 |
| slomo | clean sourcetree when finished | 08:26 |
| sistpoty | siretart: apart from the fact that you need root-rights for all tasks (imo) it seems to do the work | 08:26 |
| bddebian | clean source tree.. Yeah, what slomo said | 08:26 |
| siretart | ah. | 08:26 |
| siretart | bddebian: then it doesn't matter | 08:26 |
| bddebian | Am I getting annoying already? :-) | 08:27 |
| azeem | w 22 | 08:27 |
| azeem | eh, sorry | 08:27 |
| bddebian | Heya azeem | 08:27 |
| siretart | slomo: I tried to build faad2 from revu, but pbuilder failed: http://paste.debian.net/1195 | 08:27 |
| slomo | siretart: i thought -us has to be dropped? with -us the sources aren't signed anymore (just the .changes) | 08:27 |
| siretart | slomo: for revu the changes has to be signed | 08:28 |
| slomo | siretart: ok i'll look into this... | 08:28 |
| siretart | slomo: no need to, I think I just fixed it | 08:32 |
| siretart | slomo: there where some pure virtual functions declared using = NULL; shoud be = 0; | 08:33 |
| slomo | siretart: yes, saw that too... will you fix it or shall i? | 08:34 |
| siretart | I'm on it | 08:35 |
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| bddebian | Is this correct: dput -P revu *_source.changes | 08:46 |
| siretart | bddebian: yes, that is supposed to work | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Supposed to work?? :-) | 08:47 |
| bddebian | Hmm, why don't I have a .asc file this time around? | 08:49 |
| siretart | wah, this cdbs simplepatchsys cost me some nerve.. | 08:50 |
| siretart | bddebian: look at the changes file | 08:50 |
| slomo | siretart: why? just copy a diff with -p0 into debian/patches ;) | 08:50 |
| Lathiat | siretart: hrm? | 08:50 |
| siretart | well, I created the patch, and now I finally got it applied | 08:51 |
| siretart | but pbuilder still ftbfs :/ | 08:51 |
| slomo | at the same file the same error? | 08:52 |
| siretart | gnarf. I accidentally reversed the patch.. stupid me | 08:53 |
| bddebian | siretart: The changes file was fine. See here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/600 | 08:53 |
| slomo | bddebian: drop -us and the .dsc file will get signed too | 08:54 |
| bddebian | waaahaha | 08:54 |
| bddebian | Thanks slomo | 08:54 |
| siretart | I usually build with both -us -uc | 08:54 |
| siretart | only when uploading, I use debsign on the .changes file | 08:55 |
| bddebian | siretart: So what do you suggest? | 08:55 |
| siretart | because I rather think that signing packages should rather be part of the uploading process and not of the building process | 08:55 |
| siretart | but ymmv | 08:55 |
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| siretart | I suggest using debuild and having a ~/.devscripts config file telling debuild to use options -us -uc | 08:56 |
| siretart | and just before uploading, using debsign on the changes file | 08:57 |
| siretart | but there are other people suggesting otherwise, so ymmv | 08:57 |
| bddebian | But doesn't that say that the changes file is OK? | 08:57 |
| bddebian | It's complaining about the sources.changes file | 08:58 |
| slomo | jbailey: ping? | 09:00 |
| jbailey | slomo: ?gnip | 09:01 |
| siretart | bddebian: well, debsign will attach your signature to the changes file, so it should be ok afterwards | 09:01 |
| bddebian | siretart: debsign the xxx_source.changes file? | 09:02 |
| bddebian | Sorry for all the questions | 09:02 |
| siretart | jepp | 09:02 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 09:02 |
| slomo | jbailey: just wanted to tell you, that the configure of librep seems to be misleading ;) it says -1 for downwards, 1 for upwards growing stack... but at least on ppc it's the other way around... just if this seems weird to you ;) | 09:03 |
| jbailey | I haven't been watching the log. It's just building. | 09:04 |
| jbailey | Took me a bit to update the chrootl | 09:04 |
| siretart | another patch for faad2 :/ - next pbuilder try | 09:05 |
| jbailey | slomo: Builds fine. How to test? | 09:05 |
| slomo | jbailey: when it builds fine the problem is solved ;) | 09:05 |
| jbailey | Cool. =) | 09:06 |
| slomo | thanks for testing :) | 09:06 |
| slomo | and you helped me with debugging smlnj a few days ago... i haven't found the problem yet and i think i let the package build with gcc 3.4 for the meantime | 09:06 |
| bddebian | Shit, I forgot to run lintian again and there are CVS dirs.. :-( | 09:06 |
| siretart | slomo: ok, faad2 builds now. shall I upload it for you? | 09:07 |
| slomo | siretart: yes... please :) btw, can you have a final look at the librep upload? works now on every architecture... | 09:08 |
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| siretart | slomo: done :) | 09:17 |
| siretart | slomo: are you already an ubuntu member? | 09:17 |
| sistpoty | wooohooo... I've been doing very, very stupid and nasty things and have kde back up and running *fg* | 09:21 |
| siretart | :) | 09:21 |
| bddebian | :-) | 09:21 |
| sistpoty | big thanks to debian/unstable ;) | 09:22 |
| Lathiat | oh dear | 09:22 |
| Lathiat | that sounds bad | 09:22 |
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| sistpoty | hrhr | 09:22 |
| sistpoty | was really nasty and bad :) | 09:22 |
| Lathiat | yeh and you think im joking about covering my eyes? :P | 09:23 |
| sistpoty | *g* | 09:23 |
| Lathiat | we | 09:23 |
| siretart | whheha | 09:23 |
| sistpoty | i hope nobody logs this *g* | 09:24 |
| siretart | sistpoty: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/amule/2.0.3-1ubuntu1/ amule fixed :) | 09:24 |
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| dholbach | hi | 09:24 |
| sistpoty | siretart: cool :) | 09:24 |
| siretart | huhu daniel | 09:24 |
| dholbach | what do you think about a review day on 28 july? that's a thursday | 09:24 |
| \sh | *grmpf | 09:25 |
| dholbach | it will be a day, when i'm back again and that's enough time to get people to use REVU and get them all online | 09:25 |
| siretart | hi \sh! | 09:25 |
| dholbach | \sh: was that "*grmpf*" related to what i said? | 09:25 |
| \sh | dholbach: it's the *grmpf* related to agains x nightmare | 09:26 |
| dholbach | i see | 09:26 |
| SEBest | hi lathiat | 09:26 |
| dholbach | what's wrong this time? | 09:26 |
| \sh | dholbach: no X at all | 09:26 |
| siretart | dholbach: xbase-clients and/or xlibs are utterly broken atm | 09:27 |
| \sh | now I'm reverting to hoary version | 09:27 |
| comadreja | \sh: you don't have to do that | 09:27 |
| comadreja | Amaranth helped me to fix it | 09:27 |
| dholbach | you have to use the old xlibs (if you run into keyboard configuration problems) | 09:27 |
| comadreja | I can guide you | 09:27 |
| \sh | dholbach: I did everything from bugzilla entries...didn't help | 09:27 |
| dholbach | hrm | 09:27 |
| \sh | x-window-system-core is held up for -42 | 09:27 |
| \sh | cause of libglu1-xorg | 09:28 |
| comadreja | did you reinstall xbase-clients -36 ? | 09:28 |
| sistpoty | hehe, next one with x problems *g* | 09:28 |
| \sh | yep | 09:28 |
| dholbach | i don't even have those new binary packages | 09:28 |
| dholbach | (amd64 buildd breakage) | 09:28 |
| comadreja | have you pin it ? | 09:28 |
| \sh | sistpoty: ah I don't have problems with X | 09:28 |
| \sh | comadreja: I pin it down to hoary default ,-) | 09:28 |
| comadreja | :) | 09:28 |
| sistpoty | \sh ok | 09:28 |
| dholbach | ok... any opinions on review day? | 09:29 |
| \sh | funny thing is, i have kubuntu cds now, where I can boot/not boot/boot/not boot | 09:29 |
| \sh | dholbach: 28th? | 09:29 |
| slomo | siretart: no | 09:29 |
| dholbach | \sh: yep | 09:29 |
| comadreja | dholbach : what's review day ? | 09:30 |
| ogra | comadreja, guess | 09:30 |
| dholbach | comadreja: we're going to review all the packages that are on REVU (hopefully the guys on MOTUNewPackages and MOTUToReview will migrate there soon) and get those apckages in, if they're fine | 09:30 |
| siretart | slomo: you definitly should. Set yourself on the ComunityCouncil Agenda! Next Tuesday is meeting, I heard | 09:30 |
| \sh | ok for me... 20th motu meeting, 22nd NUN meeting, 28th review day | 09:30 |
| comadreja | yep, my guess :D | 09:30 |
| comadreja | thanks | 09:30 |
| \sh | every wednesday bug squash day | 09:31 |
| siretart | \sh: NUN? | 09:31 |
| \sh | NewUserNetwork | 09:31 |
| siretart | ah | 09:31 |
| bddebian | \sh You are in NuN? Cool | 09:31 |
| \sh | comadreja: ok...guide me, friend, to get X working *cry* | 09:31 |
| \sh | bddebian: I invented the name surprisingly | 09:31 |
| dholbach | ok... no objections, i'll write the announce mail | 09:32 |
| comadreja | \sh : sure | 09:32 |
| slomo | siretart: ok, done... | 09:32 |
| bddebian | \sh: Oh, cool | 09:32 |
| comadreja | \sh : are you subscribed to debian-devel ? | 09:32 |
| \sh | comadreja: yep | 09:32 |
| bddebian | IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/bdefreese/devel/fpc20/fpc_2.0.0-1ubuntu1_source.upload' | 09:32 |
| bddebian | Do I have to use sudo for dput? | 09:32 |
| comadreja | there is a message with links to -36 packages | 09:32 |
| \sh | no...ftp | 09:32 |
| dholbach | bddebian: no | 09:32 |
| comadreja | do you have them ? | 09:33 |
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| \sh | w8..lemme fire up mutt-ng | 09:33 |
| bddebian | Then wtf is that error? | 09:33 |
| \sh | comadreja: topic? | 09:33 |
| bddebian | Hello dholbach | 09:33 |
| \sh | subject i mean? | 09:33 |
| dholbach | hi bddebian | 09:34 |
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| bddebian | tritium!! | 09:34 |
| tritium | bddebian, what's up man? | 09:34 |
| dholbach | tritium: hey michael! how are you? | 09:35 |
| bddebian | Trying to get my stupid ass to upload freepascal. You? | 09:35 |
| tritium | dholbach! How are you? I just submitted my dissertation!!! | 09:35 |
| comadreja | Subject: Re: X libraries mess in breezy... | 09:35 |
| dholbach | tritium: ROCK'N'ROLL! WOOHOO! how does it feel? | 09:36 |
| dholbach | tritium: i'm still busy with my thesis, have to hand it in august, 18th and still lots to do, but i'm still fine, thanks :) | 09:36 |
| tritium | damn good ;) But I still have slides to prepare for my defense in one wek. How's your coming along? | 09:36 |
| bddebian | tritium: Congrats! | 09:36 |
| tritium | bddebian, thanks :) | 09:36 |
| dholbach | tritium: super... i still have around 40 pages to write and quite some hacking to do, but after some night sessions it'll all be fine | 09:37 |
| sistpoty | bbdebian: correct dput-config (to siretart.tauware, login anonymous?) | 09:37 |
| tritium | dholbach, best of luck with that. I know you can do a rockin' job. | 09:37 |
| dholbach | tritium: merci beaucoup :) | 09:37 |
| tritium | :) | 09:37 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Do you mean for fqdn? | 09:39 |
| sistpoty | yes (should be tauware.de) | 09:39 |
| bddebian | That's what it is | 09:39 |
| sistpoty | i assume it also is the default entry... hm... | 09:40 |
| bddebian | Well I set is as the default_host_main. Is there something else I have to change in [DEFUALT] ? | 09:41 |
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| sistpoty | what did you set as default_host_main (should be the section in which tauware.de is located, not tauware.de itself) | 09:41 |
| bddebian | Aye, default_host_main = revu | 09:42 |
| sistpoty | apart from that, you need method=ftp and in revu-section login=anonymous | 09:42 |
| bddebian | Though in dput, I did dput -P revu *_source.changes anyway | 09:42 |
| sistpoty | than it *should* be working | 09:42 |
| bddebian | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/604 | 09:43 |
| sistpoty | you need write-rights in your local directory, dput tries to create an .upload file there | 09:44 |
| bddebian | Do I need to re-upload? | 09:47 |
| bddebian | tritium: Should python-pyrtf go on REVU or no? | 09:48 |
| tritium | bddebian, yes, why not? | 09:48 |
| sistpoty | bbdebian: seems like fpc is already in revu... http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=138, so you don't need to reupload | 09:49 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Oh cool thanks | 09:49 |
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| sistpoty | np ;) | 09:50 |
| opi | hi there MOTUbuntus ;) | 09:50 |
| opi | dholbach: ping | 09:50 |
| dholbach | hi opi | 09:51 |
| bddebian | Hello opi | 09:51 |
| dholbach | sent it out | 09:52 |
| opi | hi bddebian | 09:53 |
| bddebian | So if I re-packaged new upstream version to python-pyrtf that tritium did, do I just send the debdiff to REVU? | 09:53 |
| dholbach | no... re-upload it please | 09:53 |
| bddebian | OK | 09:53 |
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| sistpoty | yes, REVU can handle only "complete" uploads | 09:54 |
| bddebian | I thought that is what siretart told me earlier.. Hmm. | 09:54 |
| siretart | please always upload with -S -sa for full source uploads | 09:54 |
| bddebian | WTF secret key not available? It just worked with fpc? | 09:56 |
| sistpoty | siretart: btw. can you update revu2 on tauware? | 09:56 |
| dholbach | revu2? | 09:57 |
| sistpoty | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVUDevelopment | 09:57 |
| dholbach | you guys are awesome! :) | 09:57 |
| sistpoty | thanks :) | 09:57 |
| sistpoty | but currently revu2 is nothing but a few drawings and ideas *g* | 09:58 |
| bddebian | Anyone know why I am getting the "secret key not available" all of the sudden? | 09:59 |
| dholbach | you could strace it | 10:00 |
| sistpoty | bbdebian: are u trying to build the package with the same user you did when building fpc? | 10:00 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Yes | 10:00 |
| slomo | bddebian: maybe you have entered a wrong email address in the latest changelog entry? | 10:00 |
| bddebian | Looks right: | 10:02 |
| bddebian | gpg: skipped "Barry D. deFreese <bddebian@comcast.net>": secret key not available | 10:02 |
| bddebian | gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available | 10:02 |
| slomo | hm | 10:02 |
| siretart | sistpoty: err, you mean on my notebook? | 10:02 |
| sistpoty | nope... on tauware | 10:02 |
| \sh | what was the workaround for "fatal error: can't find fixed font" in xorg? | 10:02 |
| siretart | sistpoty: ok, done | 10:03 |
| sistpoty | thx :) | 10:03 |
| siretart | sistpoty: btw, you could also create an revu2 checkout in your public_html on tauware | 10:03 |
| sistpoty | good idea... | 10:03 |
| bddebian | I'm such a dork, thanks slomo :-) | 10:03 |
| bddebian | No D. ... | 10:04 |
| sistpoty | btw.: if anyone has feature requests for revu2, now would be the right time ;) | 10:04 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: I want a button I push that just does everything for me.. ;-P | 10:04 |
| dholbach | bddebian: correct the package and auto-advocate it for you? :) | 10:05 |
| sistpoty | bbdebian: well that depends on libjustdoit, which afaik is broken | 10:05 |
| bddebian | dholbach: Sure :-) | 10:05 |
| dholbach | sistpoty: hahahaha :) | 10:05 |
| bddebian | dholbach: Hey, what do you mean correct the package?? :-) | 10:05 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: :-) | 10:05 |
| dholbach | bddebian: nothing... nothing... :) | 10:05 |
| opi | OK, I'm going to get my ansfer here, since dholbach told me, that he has to wash his hair (old female ,,go away'' line;-) ;D | 10:05 |
| dholbach | HAHAHAHA | 10:06 |
| dholbach | opi: you're SOO funny! :) | 10:06 |
| opi | naa | 10:06 |
| opi | I rather build my metapackage ;) | 10:06 |
| opi | OK, first, I know the basics | 10:06 |
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| opi | but it seems that I've broken my changelog | 10:06 |
| opi | it's safe to drop it (initial release) and create new one with dch? | 10:07 |
| dholbach | yeah, sure, go ahead, try it | 10:07 |
| opi | dch: cannot find debian/changelog anywhere! | 10:07 |
| opi | Are you in the source code tree? | 10:07 |
| opi | it seems it should be created first | 10:08 |
| bddebian | OK, python-pyrtf_0.45-0ubuntu1 uploaded too | 10:08 |
| dholbach | opi: touch debian/changelog | 10:08 |
| opi | dholbach: I did that | 10:08 |
| opi | emil@aru:~/src/meta-ubuntuart_1ubuntu $ touch debian/changelog | 10:08 |
| opi | emil@aru:~/src/meta-ubuntuart_1ubuntu $ dch -i Inital Release -Dhoary | 10:08 |
| opi | found eof where expected first heading at /usr/lib/dpkg/parsechangelog/debian line 136. | 10:08 |
| opi | I've got same error with my handmade changelog | 10:09 |
| opi | I'm not using any Win32 linefeed (\n\r) | 10:09 |
| opi | any hints? | 10:09 |
| bddebian | dholbach: I was looking at UniverseUnmetDeps yesterday and zorp is unfixible without an update from upstream. Should the wiki be updated? Bugs are already tagged in Debian against it | 10:09 |
| dholbach | bddebian: if we can get it from debian, we should consider that | 10:09 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: Theirs FTBFSs too | 10:10 |
| dholbach | opi: what about your old entry? | 10:10 |
| dholbach | bddebian: and upstream fixed the error? | 10:10 |
| opi | rm'ed | 10:10 |
| dholbach | opi: get it from one of your example packages and edit it the way you need it :) | 10:11 |
| opi | dholbach: I did that before ;) | 10:11 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: It's basically a version mismatch thing. Both Debian and Ubuntu updated libzorpll to 3.0.6 I think and zorp 2.xx won't build against that, or install | 10:11 |
| opi | dholbach: I ripped jriddler's stuff :P | 10:11 |
| dholbach | opi: do it again and upload it somewhere so we can have a look | 10:11 |
| opi | dholbach: I'll try again | 10:11 |
| opi | OK | 10:11 |
| dholbach | bddebian: *GRMPF* has upstream fixed that in cvs or a newer release? | 10:12 |
| bddebian | dholbach: I'm not saying we should package the new version, just wondered if the wiki should reflect that it can't be fixed until the Debian maintainer updates it | 10:12 |
| opi | what was the UbuntuX rule? 1 if it's in Debian, none if it's our own? | 10:13 |
| bddebian | dholbach: "New" release. 4/26/2005 | 10:13 |
| opi | my-package-version-ubuntuX | 10:13 |
| siretart | opi: if its not in debian, its 0ubuntu1 | 10:13 |
| opi | siretart: OK, thanks | 10:13 |
| dholbach | bddebian: if we can't fix it otherwise, we should consider a new package version | 10:14 |
| tseng | ogra: ? | 10:14 |
| ogra | tseng, ? | 10:14 |
| bddebian | dholbach: You mean update outside of Debian? | 10:14 |
| tseng | ogra: something about "jp, tseng" | 10:14 |
| dholbach | bddebian: but not if it takes tooooo much time, the first zorp entry in popcon.ubuntu.com is on rank 8665 :) | 10:15 |
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| opi | changelog entry has: packagename (version:version) distribution; urgency=value | 10:15 |
| ogra | tseng, he wanted to know who knows which dbus version is needed for muine from CVS | 10:15 |
| dholbach | bddebian: we could add a comment on their bug, that new upstream fixes it and sync from them | 10:15 |
| opi | if it's my first build, can I go with meta-ubuntuart (0:1) | 10:15 |
| opi | +? | 10:15 |
| ogra | tseng, so you were my bes guess | 10:15 |
| ogra | best even | 10:16 |
| dholbach | opi: why ":"? | 10:16 |
| opi | dholbach: following Jonathan here | 10:16 |
| opi | meta-kde (5:42) unstable; urgency=medium | 10:16 |
| opi | 42 is the build | 10:16 |
| tseng | ogra: i see. | 10:16 |
| opi | I have no idea about the 5 | 10:16 |
| dholbach | opi: i think thats an epoch to supercede other package versions | 10:16 |
| dholbach | you won't need that | 10:17 |
| tseng | ogra: the dbus-mono api is the same one exposed from 0.2X | 10:17 |
| tseng | ogra: it doesnt mak e a difference | 10:17 |
| opi | dholbach: so (1) would do the trick? | 10:17 |
| ogra | ah | 10:17 |
| dholbach | opi: yep | 10:17 |
| dholbach | okay, i'm out to get a beer and some crisps | 10:18 |
| sistpoty | have fun ;) | 10:18 |
| opi | dholbach: I think I'll follow your steps :D | 10:18 |
| dholbach | hehe :) | 10:18 |
| opi | man, VIm has a syntax highlighting for Debian's changelogs | 10:18 |
| tseng | eh | 10:19 |
| tseng | its a pretty standard format | 10:19 |
| tseng | gnome changelogs are the same | 10:19 |
| opi | what next? A irony highlight for people to dumb to get one? ;) | 10:19 |
| tseng | uh | 10:19 |
| opi | tseng: yes, I know about it, but it comes in handy | 10:19 |
| tseng | sure. | 10:19 |
| bddebian | dholbach: Got any other suggestions then? :-) | 10:21 |
| opi | tseng: sorry if this joke didn't fit you. Sometimes I swing into clown mood. | 10:22 |
| tseng | i take things pretty seriously sometimes | 10:22 |
| tseng | dont worry about it | 10:22 |
| bddebian | tseng: Someone said last night that you are from the Philly area, is that true? | 10:22 |
| tseng | yes | 10:23 |
| bddebian | Sweet. I live in Schwenksville. Work down here by the airport. | 10:23 |
| tseng | the philly airport? | 10:23 |
| bddebian | Aye | 10:23 |
| siretart | Gazer: I added you to the revu keyring, you may proceed with uploading now | 10:23 |
| tseng | i was there yesterday | 10:23 |
| bddebian | Fun place isn't it! ;-) | 10:23 |
| tseng | hardly | 10:23 |
| tseng | i drove in, dropped of roomate and hightailed it out of there | 10:24 |
| bddebian | Gotta be one of the worse run airports I have ever seen | 10:24 |
| tseng | i fly out of BWI | 10:24 |
| opi | bddebian: come, visit Poland. You will change your mind eventualy. ;) | 10:24 |
| siretart | Gazer: ? | 10:25 |
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| bddebian | opi: :-) | 10:25 |
| bddebian | JanC: fpc is up :-) | 10:25 |
| bddebian | So what does the little lightbulb next to the hammer on REVU mean? | 10:26 |
| tseng | NEW | 10:26 |
| tseng | or New rather | 10:26 |
| tseng | no comments yet maybe | 10:26 |
| bddebian | Well fpc has no comments either but it has no light-bulb | 10:26 |
| sistpoty | it means not in the ubuntu-archive | 10:26 |
| bddebian | Ahhh | 10:26 |
| bddebian | Hmm, fpc shouldn't have been either | 10:27 |
| bddebian | Bah, wtf do I know | 10:27 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: oops, got it wrong again... means that the package is not in debian-archive (imo tauware runs debian) | 10:28 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 10:29 |
| siretart | sistpoty: no, I check against more or less current lists from breezy | 10:30 |
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| siretart | bye tseng | 10:30 |
| sistpoty | bye tseng | 10:30 |
| bddebian | Later tseng | 10:30 |
| siretart | .oO( no bad jokes about tseng beeing bigger than a home? ) | 10:31 |
| siretart | *g* | 10:31 |
| bddebian | heh | 10:31 |
| tseng | its a redirect | 10:31 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 10:31 |
| tseng | overloaded symbols for the win | 10:31 |
| siretart | lol | 10:32 |
| opi | Beer. Check. Chips. Check. Package build. Failed. Well, you can't have everything | 10:32 |
| bddebian | hehe | 10:33 |
| sistpoty | keep on drinking ... errr trying ;) | 10:33 |
| bddebian | Well I got to built (I think), so someone give me another :-) | 10:35 |
| bddebian | Or better yet a beer. ;-) | 10:35 |
| bddebian | You need some type of prioritization on MOTUTodo | 10:37 |
| siretart | bddebian: s/you/we/ | 10:38 |
| siretart | ;) | 10:38 |
| bddebian | siretart: I am not MOTU yet, so I didn't want to say "we" :-) | 10:38 |
| bddebian | Or may never be who knows. :-) | 10:39 |
| opi | anyone can look at this: http://bronikowski.art.pl/~emil/meta-ubuntuart.tgz | 10:39 |
| opi | +? | 10:39 |
| siretart | bddebian: that doesn't matter, we're all working together, so "we" :) | 10:39 |
| bddebian | OK, fair enough. | 10:40 |
| bddebian | opi: Hmm, can't open it in Windows ;-) | 10:41 |
| opi | bddebian: try AmigaOS :> | 10:41 |
| opi | that's this meta-pacakge I'm trying to build | 10:41 |
| opi | I'm still getting: your changelog sucks at line 5 error | 10:42 |
| bddebian | Doh | 10:42 |
| bddebian | opi: What is line 5? | 10:42 |
| opi | IIRC it's lasts line | 10:42 |
| opi | maybe it needs spare line | 10:42 |
| ogra | opi, we already have a ubuntu-artwork metapackage | 10:42 |
| ogra | opi, lets just adjust the contents there | 10:42 |
| opi | ogra: D'oh, I'll renema it then | 10:42 |
| opi | ogra: I'll reneme it | 10:43 |
| ogra | (assuming you want to use it for the artwork team works) | 10:43 |
| bddebian | re-enema? | 10:43 |
| bddebian | ;-P | 10:43 |
| opi | ogra: yes | 10:43 |
| ogra | opi, so lets use the existing metapackage then ;) | 10:43 |
| opi | ogra: the idea is to provide a software selected by Ubuntu-Artwork team within one package | 10:44 |
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| opi | ogra: plus, it will be filled with templates and docs later (I think;-) | 10:44 |
| ogra | opi, yes... | 10:44 |
| === opi will read ogra's announcment, that he forgot to send | ||
| bddebian | Seriously though, it would be nice to work on MOTUTodo on what folks thought were the highest priorities | 10:45 |
| opi | ogra: that's the same thing? :D | 10:45 |
| opi | ogra: in other words, I can drop it and drink beer? ;) | 10:45 |
| bddebian | heh | 10:45 |
| opi | ogra: I thought that ubuntu-artwork is wallpaper related | 10:45 |
| opi | ogra: not software related | 10:45 |
| ogra | opi, oh, so you mean a software selection metapackage that depends on gimp and blender ? | 10:46 |
| ogra | etc... | 10:46 |
| opi | ogra: Oi | 10:46 |
| bddebian | Well I suppose I better head home before my wife disowns me. Catch you all later | 10:46 |
| opi | ogra: that's the plan | 10:46 |
| ogra | opi, hmm... | 10:46 |
| opi | ogra: plus some documentation on Ubuntu-artwork team rules | 10:47 |
| opi | (when one will be set;-) | 10:47 |
| ogra | opi, you should discuss that with Kamion and mdz first, there is controversal thinking about metapackages ... | 10:47 |
| opi | ogra: it was just an excuse for me, to learn about metapackages :-) | 10:47 |
| opi | ogra: it's an effect of brainstorming on the mailing list | 10:48 |
| ogra | opi, try it, build it, but speak to mdz about it if he's back from HEL | 10:48 |
| opi | ogra: it can be even unofficial one :-) | 10:48 |
| ogra | opi, i saw the discussion :) | 10:48 |
| opi | ogra: OK, I'll do that | 10:48 |
| opi | ogra: so, you see that I'm drunk again today :D | 10:48 |
| === opi is ashamed | ||
| ogra | heh | 10:48 |
| opi | anyway, there's always a learning experience in this | 10:49 |
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| opi | btw: is Badger still badly broken? | 10:51 |
| opi | I still compile agains Hoary | 10:51 |
| opi | (no, I can't have chroot, no room for that;-) | 10:51 |
| sistpoty | opi: i fixed the changelog: http://studhome.rrze.uni-erlangen.de:/~sisptoty/meta-unbuntu-art.tar.gz | 10:52 |
| ogra | breezys X is currently broken on all arches but amd64 | 10:52 |
| opi | sistpoty: could you share with me what you did? :-) | 10:52 |
| opi | ogra: so I'll pass :-P | 10:52 |
| sistpoty | opi: I just added two spaces and adjusted the time format so that it has seconds | 10:53 |
| opi | sistpoty: oh. Stupid must I be, then says Master Yoda. | 10:53 |
| opi | sistpoty: I'm geting 404 on your URL | 10:54 |
| sistpoty | args... type: http://studhome.rrze.uni-erlangen.de/~sistpoty/meta-unbuntu-art.tar.gz | 10:54 |
| opi | got it | 10:54 |
| opi | I'll diff it, thanks | 10:54 |
| sistpoty | np | 10:54 |
| sistpoty | opi: maybe you should adjust the copyright and the rules file (at least these two... have only glanced at it) | 10:56 |
| opi | sistpoty: will do, I ripped JRiddler metapackage as dholbach suggested | 10:56 |
| opi | sistpoty: needs finetune | 10:57 |
| siretart | gnarf | 10:57 |
| siretart | ghc6 is b0rken in breezy | 10:57 |
| sistpoty | siretart: what do you need ghc6 for? | 10:58 |
| siretart | sistpoty: for these packages:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGhc6Transition | 10:58 |
| opi | re \sh | 10:59 |
| \sh | ok..no breezy update until xorg is running again ;) | 10:59 |
| opi | \sh: heh, I should dist-upgrade few days ago then :-) | 10:59 |
| sistpoty | siretart: will ghc6 build with ghc5? | 11:00 |
| siretart | sistpoty: according to the debian changelog, this was disabled because upstream does not support that anymore | 11:01 |
| siretart | preety weird situation | 11:01 |
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| sistpoty | I'll take a look... at least then i'll do something for my "benoteter schein": coping with haskell ;) | 11:02 |
| siretart | ok, I filed https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12732 | 11:03 |
| siretart | sistpoty: the sanest way would be to create some sort of ghc6-bootstrap package, which does not depend on ghc6. But I have now idea of haskell, nor of ghc :( | 11:04 |
| siretart | but for today, I'm off to bed | 11:04 |
| GazerWork | Hi!, I made an upload to REVU but I see that orig.tar.gz was not upload :/ , how can I fix that ? | 11:04 |
| siretart | GazerWork: make your sourcpackage with options "-S -sa" | 11:04 |
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| siretart | for dpkg-buildpackage/debuil, that is | 11:05 |
| GazerWork | siretart, I see, and next run dput *_source.changes ? | 11:05 |
| sistpoty | gn8 siretart | 11:05 |
| siretart | GazerWork: jepp | 11:05 |
| siretart | gn8 folks, | 11:05 |
| GazerWork | siretart, thx | 11:07 |
| opi | OK guys, thanks for all help | 11:09 |
| opi | I'm going to catch some Zzz | 11:09 |
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| slomo | and me too ;) gn8 | 11:11 |
| \sh | well..I will w8 until my breezy is upgraded *lol* | 11:11 |
| dholbach | night opiZzzZzz, siretart, slomo | 11:12 |
| comadreja | sorry \sh :( | 11:12 |
| \sh | comadreja: no problem :) I will try it again :) | 11:12 |
| \sh | it's only my second time today :) | 11:12 |
| comadreja | hehehe | 11:12 |
| \sh | this is what I love :) | 11:12 |
| tritium | dholbach, good night. I'm taking off as well... | 11:15 |
| tritium | See you all later. | 11:15 |
| dholbach | bye tritium and good luck with that presentation | 11:15 |
| dholbach | you'll be fine! | 11:15 |
| tritium | dholbach, good luck with your dissertation. You'll do great! | 11:16 |
| dholbach | it's not exactly a dissertation, but thanks :) | 11:16 |
| === dholbach hugs tritium | ||
| === tritium hugs dholbach as well | ||
| tritium | bye... | 11:17 |
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| sistpoty | I'm off for a while (trying to build a ghc6-debootstrap-package on my debian/unstable)... cya | 11:32 |
| dholbach | bye sistpoty and good luck with that | 11:32 |
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| === ivoks is so happy | ||
| dholbach | how comes? | 11:49 |
| ivoks | after 40 years... | 11:49 |
| ivoks | she's back! | 11:49 |
| dholbach | who? | 11:50 |
| ivoks | http://www.dalmacija.net/komiza/smedvjedica.htm | 11:50 |
| dholbach | monk seals :) | 11:51 |
| ivoks | adriatic monk seal | 11:51 |
| ivoks | everybody tought she's gone :( | 11:51 |
| dholbach | they surely were on a vacation or something | 11:51 |
| ivoks | vacation? | 11:51 |
| dholbach | on a holiday... i was talking crap, don't mind me :) | 11:52 |
| ivoks | ? | 11:52 |
| jbailey | I just can't imagine seals wandering around singing "pie jesu domine. dona eis requiem" and hitting themselves in the head with the tablets. | 11:52 |
| ivoks | this isn't north pole's seal :) | 11:52 |
| ivoks | ah, long story... | 11:52 |
| ivoks | omg, mtv sucks.. | 11:53 |
| tseng | no kidding | 11:53 |
| dholbach | jbailey: they do... and they just recite the current phrases of our pope, stuff like: "harry potter is bad for you" - in latin, of course | 11:53 |
| ivoks | all the time lonley - akon :) | 11:53 |
| jbailey | dholbach: Er... I had actually been refering to the Monty Python skit... =) | 11:54 |
| dholbach | jbailey: i was referring to something else ;-) | 11:55 |
| \sh | ok...breezy packages are on my system...configuring now... | 11:56 |
| \sh | and then I'm going to bed to have a surprise for the breakfast | 11:56 |
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