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gigaclon:)12:06
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michaelI try to ap-get install msttcorefonts but get an error12:08
michaelwhat repository do I need?12:09
seth_kmultiverse12:12
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michaelwhich multiverse?  what is the whole url12:14
seth_kfind the lines about universe in your sources.list12:14
seth_kand add multiverse next to them12:15
seth_kthere are two lines12:15
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stibbyjoin #kde12:15
stibbytypo :(12:15
seth_khehe12:16
stibbywhat is the best cd ripping utility available for kde?12:16
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michaelI don't have any repositories for multiverse12:18
seth_kmichael: that is why you add the names to the end of the universe line. I will show you mine.12:18
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seth_kdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse12:19
seth_kdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse12:19
seth_klike that, michael.12:19
michaelo, ok12:19
michaelty12:19
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michaelIt still says there is no installation cantidate12:24
seth_kdid you do an update?12:24
seth_kyou have to reload your sources12:24
michaelyea12:24
michaeli'll try again12:24
seth_kpaste your sources.list to http://pastebin.com12:24
michaelname is MikeL12:25
michaelyea, I didn't save sources.list first, it's updating now12:27
seth_kyeah, okay12:27
seth_kthat's good, cause it looked right :P12:27
michael:P12:28
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michaelo, i got a quick question - I was messing around w/ Ctrl+Alt+Esc and clicked my desktop12:29
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michaelhow to I reenable it?12:29
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seth_klog in and out I suppose12:33
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michaeldo you know any way to erase a windows partition and expand another?12:45
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gigaclonpartition magic12:48
seth_kpfft12:49
seth_kpartition magic costs money12:49
seth_kuse gparted12:49
gigaclondoes the same thing?12:49
seth_kyeah, it can even resize NTFS12:49
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seth_ki always use it by booting from a Hoary CD12:49
seth_kthen apt-get installing it12:49
seth_kthen resize and move away12:50
seth_kand if he is just erasing the windows part, it is super easy12:50
seth_kand it mimics Partition Magic's interface, so it's easy to use12:50
snikkerhi, i'go a problem with the screen saver... it don't remember xscreensaver preferences...12:51
michaelso, I have hoary installed now, if I do apt-get install gparted - I can use that: or do I need to boot with the ubuntu live cd and use it from there?12:51
michaelubuntu install*12:51
seth_kmichael: you can't use it on a partition that is currently in use. So if you're wishing to expand your current partition, you're out of luck12:51
seth_kthat's why I boot from a CD12:52
seth_kmichael: if you're just wishing to alter other partitions that you can unmount temporarily, it's all good12:52
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yamanhi, i'm trying to get the "Adaptive Contrast" plugin for gimp--anybody know how?12:55
michaelcan I run it off of the kubuntu install cd? or do u know of sumthing free that I can burn to a cd that runs at startup - like partition magic12:55
jpowershas anyone used paragon's ntfs for linux product?12:57
seth_kjust download a hoary live cd12:58
seth_k@michael12:58
michaelCan I edit all partitions if I am running the live, and open gparted from there?12:59
stibbyand if possible, in torrent form01:00
seth_kmichael: you have to use apt-get and install gparted while in the live environment, but then you can touch all partitions, yes01:00
michaelok, ty much01:00
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TestMADhi01:18
TestMADcan anyone tell me if they make an Avast! home edition for Linux?01:25
TestMADor atleast tell me of a good reliable av for linux01:27
chris12349 you probably wont need antivirus, but clamav is pretty good01:28
jpowersthere's a tool called klamav which is a passable gui for clamav01:29
seth_kwhy would you need antivirus, though?01:29
TestMADwell.01:30
TestMADmy wife is an avid web browser01:30
stibbyhow does one get to a terminal in enlightenment?01:30
chris12349don't run as root and you are fine01:30
stibbyi installed it and it works fine but i can't find it...01:30
TestMADshe goes to google and just types stuff in all the time01:30
seth_kbut there are no viruses for Linux01:30
seth_kno real ones, anyways01:30
seth_kno worries, Linux doesn't mind01:30
TestMADim gonna keep y peerguardian tho01:31
TestMADthat app is great01:31
TestMADblocks alot of ads from websites and tracking cookies01:32
TestMADafter messing around with ubuntu.. i decided that dual booting for kids games and CS2 isnt that bad of a trade off.01:32
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chris12349thats why I dual boot, I have to have my games ;)01:33
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TestMADi talked my wife into sitting down with me and watching a few movies and reading a few books on linux.01:33
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TestMADwe're switching over01:33
michaelwhat was the linux alternative to partition magic?01:33
michaelfrom apt-get01:33
chris12349gparted?01:33
TestMADall the games she likes to play have native linux versions anyways01:33
michaelok, ty01:33
TestMADits kewl to have a wife that like 1st person shooters.01:34
TestMADnot many chicks out there do01:34
TestMADatleast chicks her age01:34
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AlbanianLordhello folks01:35
seth_khi01:35
frankTestMAD: movies about linux?01:35
TestMADyea01:35
franklike what?01:35
TestMADa beginners intro level vid for linux01:36
TestMADand linux for dummies.01:36
TestMADheh01:36
frankok01:36
AlbanianLordwell i have a quick question, if anyone is willing to teach/help me01:37
AlbanianLordi just installed kde01:37
AlbanianLordand in gnome sound works fine01:37
AlbanianLordwhat should I do?>01:37
AlbanianLordwait01:38
AlbanianLordi think i got it01:38
AlbanianLordkillall esd01:39
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seth_kyes. because KDE does not use esd01:39
seth_klol01:39
seth_ktoo late01:39
TestMADseth_k: wheres a good place to find really awesome linux games and see screenshots?01:48
seth_klinuxgames.com is nice01:49
seth_kor http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515301:49
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TestMADok..and can ubuntu play wma?01:50
TestMADalso if an linux program says x86 can it still run on a64ubuntu01:52
TestMAD??01:52
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frankTestMAD: still there?02:07
frankTestMAD: no it can't02:07
frankTestMAD: (Unless you really want it to)02:07
stibbylinux programs can't run from architecture to architecture?02:09
frankWell the compiled versions can only run on the version they were compiled for. If you compile from source, it can run on yours (maybe)02:10
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stibbydoes that mean a kubuntu on os x and a kubunto on amd64 have different package archives though? i don't thin kso02:18
apokryphosstibby: correct02:20
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seth_kCorollary: when Macs switch to x86, less package upkeep for us!02:26
frankseth_k: Well when PPC is completely obsolete, yes...  in like 10 years02:28
frankheh02:28
seth_kheh, is true02:28
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PenguinBoyevening geeks, nerds, and Linux gurus02:45
RiddellPenguinBoy: they're all reading harry potter02:47
PenguinBoylol02:47
PenguinBoyi get mine tomorrow02:47
PenguinBoyYEAH!02:47
seth_klol02:47
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gdhI've bought the latest Hairy Potter for an American friend in return for amotherboard they bought me02:49
gdhabout 4 months ago and still hasn't sent on to me!02:49
gdhwarg :|02:49
PenguinBoyterrible!02:50
PenguinBoyanyone got a copy of Prince yet???02:50
gdhPrince? Isn't that some kind of IT project planner ?02:51
gdh;)02:51
PenguinBoylol02:53
PenguinBoyNO02:53
PenguinBoylol02:53
RiddellI saw Joanne Rowling, and a long queue of people.  didn't buy a copy though02:54
gdhI love the way she keeps saying 'no, this is the LAST book'02:55
gdhand then you can imagine the phone call from her publisher the next morning02:55
gdh"WTF>!>!> are you *MAD*?!!???!?!?!!?" Milk it!!!"02:55
gdhhell, Police Academy did well enough out of that concept02:56
Riddell?  her origional contract was for 7 books, always has been02:57
gdhWas it? K, news to me :)02:58
PenguinBoyyes 7 books02:59
PenguinBoyshe does not have to keep milkng it....read on Google news this morning that she is now the richest woman in the UK....passing the Queen...she is now worth 1 BILLION dollars!02:59
bbaileyIs that UK billion, I presume?03:00
PenguinBoyit said dollars03:00
apokryphosShe passed the queen some time ago, but didn't know she'd got *that* rich.03:00
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PenguinBoyi wish i could write suc a series03:02
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PenguinBoyfor shame03:03
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A[D] minSFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/akregator_3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch and other packages 03:06
A[D] minSand it said to apt-get update ...i did... and still da same problem so how i can solve it ?03:06
RiddellA[D] minS: try a different mirror03:06
Riddellca.  or uk.03:07
gdhI've not read any of it. Various literary friends say it's worth a look, but I suffer too greatly from cba :)03:07
gdh(can't be arsed)03:07
A[D] minSRiddell, where i can find them ?03:07
A[D] minSsorry am new with ubuntu :)03:07
apokryphosus.archive still having problems? Youch.03:08
PenguinBoycba?03:08
RiddellA[D] minS: /etc/apt/sources.list03:08
Riddellsudo apt-get update03:08
gdhPenguinBoy: [02:07]  <gdh> (can't be arsed)03:08
PenguinBoylol03:09
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PenguinBoyhey hey hey newbie03:12
newbiehi penguinBoy03:13
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A[D] minSRiddell, i mean from where i can get new miorrors?03:16
seth_kA[D] minS: just remove the "us." from each line in sources.list03:17
seth_kso now you have "http://archive.ubuntu.com..."03:17
seth_kheh03:17
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gdh\o/03:50
stibbyis superkaramba available through apt? i'm not at my kubuntu box right now03:52
apokryphosIt is; latest version, too.03:52
stibbydoes it come with all those cool widgets?03:53
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borisany one ever heard of unixhq.org03:57
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gdhno, but sounds like a warez group.03:58
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boriswow your a moron apparently.03:58
gdhI think the word you're looking for is "you're". QED.03:58
tarheelcoxnlol04:02
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TestMADok..im back..so i cant run gltron or doom3 on 64bit ubuntu??04:10
Frank_dotyou can but it takes work to get it set up04:12
TestMADhow much work?04:12
Frank_dotI just switched back to i386 and its alot easier04:12
TestMADheh04:12
Frank_dothttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457504:12
gdhIt's not even like you have a genuinely different/better arch like IA64 or PPC :)04:13
gdhjust yet more glorified extensions to the i386 stack-of-cards.04:13
gdhlolomg64bit I can download warez twice as fast l0l0l0l0l !2!!!2312!!!"111oneeleven!!11!1104:14
Frank_dotlol04:14
TestMADsup with the n00bspeak?04:15
aseigogdh: actually, the amd64 stuff is smoking nice.. have you worked on one of them?04:15
gdhaseigo: Of course not, can't you see the envy?04:15
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gdhI have a mad quad-xeon with 8M cache at work that I have yet to extract any reasonable performance out of.04:16
gdhfun for next week04:16
TestMADmy 3800+ rocks04:17
TestMADgot sli setup04:17
TestMAD2 6600gt's04:17
TestMADwish i had mone yto get 2 7800gtx's04:17
gdhmy own computing needs are satiated by a web browser, an MP3 player, IRC and Kopete...04:17
Frank_dotTestMAD: I can see the reluctance in going back to i386. but all the games are 386 anyways04:18
TestMADyea.04:18
Frank_dotDoes sli work in linux?04:18
TestMADcept farcry...with the patch04:18
TestMADi dont think it does04:18
TestMADnot sure04:18
TestMADthe nvidia platform drivers dont mention if it supports sli04:19
Frank_dotThe improvement in far cry is not that great if I remember the review I read04:19
TestMADowell,,im just hoping that more commercial games are going to be released on +nix04:19
TestMADhopefully developers are seeing it as a new market to tap04:20
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gdhNow if only Adobe et al woud write apps for the .NET platform... :)04:20
gdhIt makes sense since they can then share a single codebase for Windows + Mac, and get Linux as a freebie to sell to04:21
Frank_dotTestMAD: Well the ones that use opengl is one thing, the ones that use DirectX are pretty much stuck04:21
TestMADmore games need to be done in sdl04:21
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Master-Yodaanyone here?04:21
TestMADyea04:21
gdhNo, all asleep04:21
Master-YodaTHANK GOD04:21
Frank_dotActually once Mac gets on x86, maybe it will be easier to get linux games04:22
TestMADsleep? whats that?04:22
Master-Yodaok ihave a pcmia card in my laptop04:22
Master-Yodabut when i go to activate it in the cp04:22
gdhbest place for it, I find.04:22
Master-Yodait ask for root pass04:22
TestMADi got 2 in mine04:22
Master-Yodai gave it the right one04:22
Master-Yodaand it continues04:22
Master-Yodabut then it brings me back to the control panel home page04:22
gdhheh, known issue.04:22
Master-Yodahow do i fix this?04:23
gdhopen a konsole and 'sudo kcontrol' instead04:23
Master-Yodais there a way i can enable root login?04:23
gdhit'll probably look weird, but that's pretty irrelevant04:23
seth_kroot login sucks, don't use it04:23
gdhMaster-Yoda: there is but you don't need it. get over the 'login as root' thing - it'll do you good.04:23
seth_kbut if you must, sudo passwd root04:23
gdhnasty stigma from years of laziness04:24
Master-Yodaeven if i sudo04:24
Master-Yodaim still in as my user04:24
gdhsudo -i04:24
Master-Yodaand wont let me have root with kde04:24
gdhwill give you a full rootshell04:24
Master-Yodaok gdh, i get many errors when i type that04:24
gdhwith environment and all04:24
Master-Yodalike refused bu server conntent conntect to x04:24
gdhMaster-Yoda: you're probably root already- you need to 'sudo kcontrol' from a fresh user Konsole.04:25
gdhe.g. try just doing 'xlogo' to ensure you have basic X privs 04:25
gdhand then 'sudo xlogo'04:25
Master-Yodacant open display04:26
Master-Yoda:|04:26
Master-Yodawell that stinks04:26
gdhok let's get really shitty, then. open a fresh Konsole, and do 'xhost +local:0'04:26
gdhand try again with kcontrol04:26
Master-Yodaoh04:26
Master-Yodain a new consol04:27
Master-Yodazlogo works04:27
Master-Yoda:P04:27
Master-Yodaxlogo(*04:27
gdhtada04:27
Master-Yodaok i sudo kcontrol04:27
Master-Yodaand pas04:27
Master-Yodaand konsole closed04:27
Master-Yodameaning wrong pass?04:27
Master-Yodaoh nvm04:27
Master-Yodait didnt close04:27
Master-Yoda:P04:27
gdh:)04:28
Master-Yodaok users opened04:28
Master-Yodanow what04:28
gdhno idea - assumed you'd know from here :)04:28
Master-Yodalol04:28
Master-Yodawhat am i supsoe to do with this04:28
Master-Yodalol04:28
gdhI don't have a notebook :)04:28
Master-Yodai want root access04:28
Master-Yodahow do i enable it04:28
Master-Yodai just wnat it 4 2 things04:28
Master-Yodathen im out?04:28
gdhyou are now running the KDE Control Centre as root.04:28
Master-Yodalol04:28
Master-Yodayes04:28
Master-Yodaas root 4 that04:29
Master-Yodai need the network config04:29
Master-Yodai want the HOLE thing as root04:29
Master-Yodahow do i enable root04:29
Master-Yodaplease04:29
gdhurg, use 'sudo passwd' 04:29
gdhto set a root password04:29
gdhand on your own head be it, plagues of locusts, etc.04:29
Master-Yodalol04:29
Master-Yodai still cant get on as root?04:30
Frank_dotraining frogs04:30
gdhyou'll need to log out and in again, mostlikelt04:30
Master-Yodak04:30
gdhso the system re-reads the shadow password file04:30
Master-Yodawhen i need to disable04:30
Master-Yodahow?04:30
gdhK -> Log Out ?04:30
Master-Yodano04:30
Master-Yodadisable root login04:30
Master-Yodaomg04:30
gdhman usermod 04:30
Master-Yodaroot login not allowed04:30
Master-Yoda:|04:30
Master-Yoda!!04:30
ubotumethinks ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me04:30
kinfoi don't understand.04:30
Master-Yoda!!!!04:31
ubotuMaster-Yoda: Are you smoking crack?04:31
Master-Yodaao?04:31
Master-Yodaim a LINUX NOOB04:31
Master-Yodau have to talk 2 me like a baby04:31
Master-Yodai want to login as root04:31
Master-Yodabut it wont allow me04:31
Master-Yodai know u can set something to make it04:31
gdhnobody /wants/ to login as root =)04:31
gdhUse the forks, etc.04:31
Master-YodaI DO04:31
Master-Yodahow do I get it.04:31
Master-YodaI WANT root login04:32
Master-YodaITS MY pc IT dosnt have ITERNET i want ROOT04:32
Master-Yoda:!!!!04:32
gdhroot is truly yes the work of a master, it is, no?04:32
Master-Yodacan u get that through ure head04:32
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Master-Yodai just want root04:32
Master-Yodai know u can do it04:32
Master-Yodahow?04:32
gigaclonsudo04:32
Master-YodaNO04:32
Master-Yodai want to login as root04:32
Master-Yodaare u on crack?04:32
Master-Yodano sudo, i want kde to reconizee me a ROOT - FULLY privileged user04:33
gdhYes. we are all on crack, it's supplied free with Kubuntu. Move along, please. :)04:33
Master-Yoda;)04:33
Master-Yodahowcome i didng get any?04:33
gdhMaster-Yoda: You're at the end of the line :)04:33
Master-Yodaok04:33
Master-Yodaguys04:33
Master-Yodaplz04:33
Master-Yodaill leave u alone04:33
Master-Yodahow do i activate root04:34
Master-Yodaroot login04:34
gigaclonbest I can do is root terminal04:34
gdhalready told you: 'sudo passwd' sets a root password you can then use to login with KDM at startup04:34
Master-Yodait wont work gdh04:34
Master-Yodai tryed04:34
gdherror message?04:34
Master-Yoda"Root login is not allowed."04:34
gdhklose any Konsole windows you have04:35
Master-Yodak04:35
gdhopen a new one from the bar on the bottom - the litlte black PC screen icon 04:35
gdhand try 'sudo passwd'04:35
Master-Yodao.k04:35
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jeanluc04 hi04:36
Master-Yodastill no work04:37
Master-Yodaroot logins are not allowed04:37
gdhHave you messed about with the "KUser" app  ?04:37
Master-Yodayes04:37
Master-Yoda:D04:37
gdhuh huh :)04:38
Master-Yodai changed the root pass once why04:38
Master-Yodalol04:38
Master-Yodaand maybe something eldse04:38
Master-Yoda;p04:38
gdhso you ran Kuser... selcted Settings -> Hide System users/ groups04:39
gdhdo that again, and make sure the 'account disabled' is NOT selected.. then 'Set Password' for it04:39
gdhand Ok ok04:39
Master-Yodagug..04:40
Master-Yodaim confused04:40
Master-Yodacommand to type in konsol04:40
Master-Yodasudo kcontrol ?04:40
gdhwell, if you want to run the control centre... yes..04:40
gdhI feel we're going round in circles. :)04:40
gigaclonwhy do you want to login as root04:40
Master-Yodasudo kuser04:40
Master-Yodaok i did what u said04:41
Master-Yodaexcept04:41
Master-Yodawhen i hide04:41
Master-Yodaohh04:41
Master-Yodai see04:41
Master-Yodawere is the disable login04:41
gdhdouble click on root04:42
gdhit's at the bottom 04:42
gdhof that window04:42
Master-Yodaits not checked ?04:42
gdhhaha wow :)04:42
gdhtruly the master you are, yes :)04:42
Master-Yodaerr04:42
Master-Yodawhats the problem04:42
Master-Yodawhy cant i logina s root04:42
Master-Yoda!!104:42
ubotuMaster-Yoda: I give up, what is it?04:43
Master-YodaAHH!04:43
gdhHaven't a clue :)04:43
Master-Yodalol04:43
Master-Yodakubuntu is messed up04:43
Master-Yodarelaly04:43
gdhYeh, I forfeit the $64,00004:43
Master-Yodai didnt have this problem with debian.04:43
Master-Yodau guys messed debian up :P04:43
gdhLOL :)04:43
Master-Yodaok im going to pop04:44
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Master-Yodalol04:44
Master-Yodayay04:45
Master-Yodaok04:45
gdhas long as Mr. Shuttleworth pays teh bills for Ubuntu, we're happy enough :)04:45
Master-Yodaim in root via console login04:45
Master-Yodahow do i start kde04:45
Master-Yoda:04:45
Master-Yoda;)04:45
Master-Yodamr shuttle worth ???????? heh04:45
Master-Yodahow do i start kde ?04:46
aseigostartkde04:46
aseigohehe04:46
Master-Yodakde START04:46
Master-Yodalol04:46
Master-Yodaoh u werent kidding.04:46
Master-Yodalol04:46
Master-YodaOMG04:46
Master-Yodacant contact kdeinit?04:46
gdhI like to think of Ubuntu as what the Mozilla Foundation should have been ...04:46
Master-Yodaconnt connect to x server04:46
Master-YodaAHH!04:46
Master-Yodastartkde -FORCE04:47
Master-Yoda:P04:47
gdhi.e. producing real value products rather than just pissing daddy's (AOL) money away for 5 years.04:47
Frank_dotgdh: who are you talking to?04:47
Master-Yodahimself.04:47
Master-Yodaits very sad.04:47
gdhFrank_dot: Myself, mostly. :)04:47
Frank_dotlol04:47
gdhI'm going to bed in a minute, so I tend to ramble a bit at this stage =)04:48
Master-Yodai think someone needs some coffee *cough *gdh**04:48
Master-Yoda:P04:48
Master-Yodaby gdh <304:48
gdhhaha :) I feel the love :)04:48
Master-Yodafeeel,,,, the LOVE,,, tonight-igh-ight,04:48
Master-Yoda:P04:48
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gdhok, am off- nna =)04:50
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TMADgrr..i hate ghosts04:57
aarcaneHelp!!  I put kubuntu on my laptop, and it worked fine, then my ipod stopped working..  Now whenever I plug it in, it doesn't show up >,.,<04:58
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Frank_dotaarcane: sorry, I have no idea how to help you04:58
bilbreyhas anyone else run into a problem this evening updating kwifimanager? apt-get dist-upgrade reports an MD5SUM mismatch, a manual download -> dpkg sez it isn't a debian archive.04:59
bilbreykwifimanager_3.4.0-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb04:59
Frank_dotbilbrey: the us archive is having problems05:00
bilbreyokay.05:00
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Frank_dotedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." in front of archive everywhere05:00
yodaokok05:01
yodahihi05:01
bilbreyFrank_dot: thanks, that appears to have done the trick. Gracias.05:03
Frank_dotno problem05:04
yodaim in my laptop now05:05
yodajust i have to setup wifi now :|05:05
yodais there any wifi in kubuntu that im just missing alreadry05:05
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bilbreycontrol-center -> Internet & network -> wireless network  ... yoda05:10
bilbreybrb05:10
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TestMADthis is me dealing with linux..05:10
TestMADhttp://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9599/klaves2dr.gif05:10
Frank_dotthis animator.. I know him... henderson or something05:11
TestMADi saw it and thought i would share..05:12
TestMADit shows my frustration sometimes05:12
yodacurl -O ~ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630revB/Drivers/dwlg630driver_200.zip05:13
yodawhat command is this in kubuntu05:13
yodawget right05:13
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gigaclongah05:13
yodano?>05:14
yoda?05:14
gigaclonim trying to download kubuntu install CD05:14
gigaclonand it stalls05:14
yodaanyone?05:14
yodawhat do u use instead of curl05:14
yoda4 kubuntu05:14
bilbreyyoda, I use wget05:14
yodahmm05:15
bilbreylater05:17
stibbyany programs for kde anyone knows dedicated at converting music formats back and forth?05:19
stibbyi'm also looking for something that will convert midi to wav05:19
stibby(well, midi to any other format)05:19
gigaclonany help on kubuntu CD download stalling05:20
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michaelwhat's your specs05:27
stibbyyou chould use a torrent05:32
stibbyshould*05:33
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gigacloni did05:43
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Master-Yoda[23:48]  <Master-Yoda> I got wifi to work with ndiswrapper05:48
Master-Yoda[23:48]  <Master-Yoda> is therea  way 2 make it keep my dns servers?05:48
Jeezisliba52-0.7.4 is taking FOREVER to set up...is this normal?05:51
Master-Yodayes05:51
Jeezisok, just want to make sure before i abort it 05:51
Jeezisthanks :)05:52
Jeezishmm...lets say it's taking like 15 mins and really bogging down your system05:54
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tuxJr_14hi05:56
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gigacloncan K3B burn image files?05:57
Frank_dotgigaclon: yes06:00
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tiagohi guys06:13
tiagoim new to linux and ubuntu... was wondering i there are repositorys i can add to find other packages?06:14
tuxJr_14hi tiago 06:14
tuxJr_14tiago, try official deb repos06:14
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tiagooh06:15
tiagoim not to sure how to do it though06:15
tiagothis is now my 3rd day of linux use lol06:15
tiagoi want to install gaim06:15
Xsecretstiago: what packages are you looking for?06:15
tuxJr_14they might break your system06:15
tiagobut its telling me it cant get some of the needed files from the repositorys06:15
tuxJr_14for example?06:15
tiagoscreenshot?06:16
Xsecretswell I have enabled multiverse and universe and gaim installed just fine.06:16
tuxJr_14screenshot what?06:16
tiagoSome of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).06:17
tiagoDo you want to continue, ignoring these packages?06:17
TestMADgotta open up universe06:17
TestMADits commented out in the source.list06:17
TestMADerr..sources.list06:17
tuxJr_14tiago, paste the full text on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:18
Xsecretsoh that's probably the problem with the use mirrors. did you get something about an md5 sum problem?06:18
tiagothats the fulll texy06:18
tuxJr_14from the begining?06:18
tiagoyeah i think i did get some thing aboout an md5 problem06:18
TestMADlink was blank06:18
tiagoso the mirrors are broken?06:19
Frank_dotyeah the us mirror is06:19
Frank_dotedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." in front of archive everywhere06:19
tiago:S im not even in the us06:19
Xsecretsyeah I'm not sure the details, but saw something in a google search said change the us to uk and it fixed it right up for me.06:19
Frank_dottiago: well check your sources.list anyways06:19
tiagook cool06:20
tiagoyeah there all us06:21
Frank_dotthere's your problem06:21
tiagoshould i remove the us all together, replace it with uk or replace it with au?06:21
Frank_dotboth should work I think06:21
tiagoomg... im starting to see a patern emerging.... terrorists use linux...06:22
Frank_dotwhat?06:22
tiagonever mind06:22
Frank_dotterrorists are also pirates! so they must use windows!06:22
tiagoif you dident laugh the first time you wont get it if i explain :P06:22
tiagoyes but they get pissed off about repositors so the blow up the us and uk06:23
tiagooh ad the english were pirets not the errorists06:23
Frank_dotwell the rest of the commonwealth didn't follow... I'm from Canada06:24
tiagocanada is cool06:24
tiagoi had a gf from canada... her accent was so hot06:24
Frank_dotso are the aussies06:24
tiagoand she dident say "eh" or "aboot"06:24
tiagoyeah im in australaia06:25
tiagoim not much into aussie girls06:25
tiagoif you lived here for 15 years you wouldent be ether06:25
Frank_dotYou should see Montreal!06:25
Frank_dotspectaculat in the summer06:25
tiagoi would love to go there one summer... lol but i havent seen snow since i was 3 years old lol06:26
Frank_dotI saw this guy play the didgeridoo is the subway...06:27
tuxJr_14i've  never seen snow06:27
Frank_dotI see snow 6 months of the year06:27
tiagolol have you been to australia Frank_dot ?06:27
Frank_dotnope06:27
Frank_dotnever been to the southern hemisphere06:28
tiagomelborune is a very nice city06:28
tiagothats where i live... it got voted the most livable city int he world06:28
tiagovery good night life06:28
tiagoits alot like canada here... except the wather... but people here are very easy going and relaxed lol06:28
Frank_dotMontreal is only 2nd to New York for number of clubs and bars in North America06:28
tiagowow06:29
Frank_dotI've lived here for 2 years06:29
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tiagohey bro the au server thing worked like a treat06:29
tuxJr_14anyone got the 6th harry potter?06:30
tiagobut it still came up with the same problem...06:30
Frank_dottiago: great!06:30
Frank_dotoh06:30
TestMADare they commented out?06:31
tiagoand its to fast for me to see what server its downloading off06:31
tiagonah there not06:31
TestMADmake sure you got all of the lines changed06:31
TestMADtheres 2 at the top i missed06:31
tuxJr_14can you paste your sources.list somewhere?06:31
tiagopm?06:32
tuxJr_14nope06:32
tuxJr_14on the paste bin06:32
tiagolol pm is so much simpler lol06:32
TestMADlink pls06:32
tiagoyou can allways close the convo after :P06:32
TestMADor just pm them to me06:32
tiagobut if you insiste06:32
tuxJr_14http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:33
tiagolol i dont even know how to pm with this lol06:33
tiagoim used to x-chat06:33
Frank_dotI know a Tiago, he's portuguese originally 06:33
tuxJr_14just paste it, man!06:33
tiagoim portuguese to06:34
tiago**06:34
tiago^^06:34
tiagobut i live in australia for 15 years06:34
tiagohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/61306:34
TestMADline 19 and 3006:35
TestMADuncomment and change to uk06:35
TestMADor au06:35
TestMADerr..2006:35
TestMAD19 aand 2006:35
Frank_dotcommented06:35
tiagoarnt they commented out?06:35
TestMADnope06:36
tiagothats what i thought so i left them06:36
TestMADremove the #06:36
tiagooh ok06:36
tiagoshould i change them all to uk?06:36
Frank_dotyeah, not us06:36
tiagoau or uk?06:36
tiagoi live in au...06:36
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tuxJr_14wb jayparadise 06:37
tiagoyay no error this time06:38
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arcanistherogueHey did anyone else order those CDs?06:38
TestMADknew he missed something..cus i did same thing yesterday06:38
tuxJr_14which cds?06:38
arcanistheroguethe Ubuntu ones06:38
arcanistheroguei ordered them in May06:38
arcanistheroguethey haven't came yet...06:38
tiagothanx guys06:39
tuxJr_14arcanistherogue, i ordered them in march. rcvd last month06:39
arcanistheroguehmm06:39
tiagoim starting to grow warmer to ubuntu06:39
arcanistherogueoh i love kubuntu06:40
arcanistherogueim on it now06:40
tiagoi was using mepis yesterday... my first linux ever06:40
arcanistherogueanyway, i just want these discs... i use up many blank ones on data, i need to stop urning linux isos06:40
arcanistherogueyour first time?06:40
tiagobut when i herd about kbuntu with lde 3.4 and xorg i had to get it06:40
arcanistheroguemy first time using linux was in May, Ubuntu06:41
arcanistherogueI used Gnome up until 2 weeks ago06:41
Frank_dotyeah I used Ubuntu for a while but then switched to kubuntu06:41
tiagokde*06:41
arcanistherogueyeah06:41
arcanistherogueI love KDE, it looks bueatiful06:41
tiagoi like kde06:41
tiagoyeah me too06:41
tiagoespecialy with xorg06:41
arcanistheroguei don't like GNOME because i think it looks ugly :/06:41
tiagoshadowy goodnessess06:41
Frank_dotMy problem with gnome was nautilus06:42
tiagoand fading and transperancys^^06:42
arcanistherogueYeah my desktop is awesome.  I have transparent tinted panels, and one at the top06:42
arcanistherogueyup06:42
arcanistheroguefading rules06:42
tiagow00t!06:42
arcanistherogueand i got nifty icons off Deviant Art for my panel  at the top... my desktop is like a reverse OS X one06:42
tiagoim hungry lol i just woke up and this is the first thing i dont allday06:42
arcanistheroguereally?06:42
arcanistherogueits almost 1 here06:43
arcanistherogueAM06:43
Frank_dotalmost 1am here06:43
arcanistheroguesame06:43
tiagoots 2:43pm here06:43
tiagoits*06:43
Frank_dotwhere from ? arcanistherogue 06:43
arcanistherogueConnecticut06:43
arcanistheroguedarn, can you order Kubuntu cds?06:43
Frank_dotMontreal here06:43
arcanistherogueaw man...06:43
Frank_dotI don't know06:43
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arcanistheroguewhats the difference between the 32 bit ubuntu and the 64 bit one?06:44
tiagowhere do i find the w32 codecs?06:44
arcanistheroguelike mp3s?06:45
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: 32 bit: MUCH easier with 32 buit programs like flash and a bit slower than 64bit but not really noticable06:45
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Frank_dottiago: in hoary-extras06:45
tiagocool06:45
tiagowhere is that?06:46
Frank_dotdeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe06:46
arcanistheroguei ordered 10 32 bit cds and 2 64 bit06:46
Frank_dotdeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse06:46
stibbyhttp://web.archive.org/web/20040927034145/http://ubuntulinux.org/06:46
arcanistheroguei think i might order like 50 more when these ones come <_<06:46
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: why do you need 50?06:46
tiagoFrank_dot: do i add that to my sources?06:46
Frank_dotyep06:46
arcanistherogueBecause >_>06:47
arcanistherogueIts free06:47
arcanistherogueand they are all official06:47
arcanistheroguewith the little group of people06:47
arcanistheroguehey, i need help iinstalling this nvidia glx thing06:48
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arcanistherogueit always has an error when i try to get them in kynaptic06:48
Frank_dotdid you install the package?06:48
arcanistheroguelemme try it right now to tell you the exact error06:48
tiagois kde 3.4.1 avalible for upgrade from the repositorys?06:48
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." in front of archive everywhere06:49
Frank_dotprobably that's your problem06:49
Frank_dottiago: maybe from backports06:49
arcanistheroguethe us.archive.ubuntu?06:49
arcanistheroguei remove the us. part06:49
arcanistherogueright?06:50
Frank_dottiago: but I would suggest staying with basic hoary for something like kde06:50
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: yeah the us archive is broken06:50
arcanistherogueoh06:50
arcanistherogueok06:50
tiagoFrank_dot: why is that?06:50
arcanistheroguewhat in the crap... i cant edit this06:50
arcanistherogueoh stupid me im in konqueror06:51
arcanistheroguelemme try in kate06:51
tiagowhat are the wmv codecs called?06:51
Frank_dottiago: well all of the packages are made for the basic ubuntu hoary06:51
seth_kw32codecs, tiago 06:51
tiagothanx seth_k 06:51
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:52
tiagohmmm it dosent find them...06:52
seth_kthey're in backports, in hoary-extras06:52
tiagodeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse06:53
tiago????06:53
Frank_dottiago: yeah you have to update after saving06:53
tiagoim sure i did06:53
tiagoill try again06:53
arcanistheroguewow, thanks, that did the trick!@06:53
arcanistherogueoff to play some games now, thanks alot06:53
Frank_dotarcanistherogue: no problem06:54
seth_ktiago: you forgot restricted06:56
seth_ktiago: and that's where w32codecs is06:56
seth_kdeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:56
Frank_dotseth_k: that's right I had installed w32codecs from marillat06:57
Frank_dotforgot about that06:58
tiagothanx alot seth_k and Frank_dot 06:58
Frank_dotnp06:59
seth_kno worries07:00
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seth_kLOL07:00
seth_knight07:00
tiagonight bro07:00
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kakaltohello #kubuntu07:03
kakalto:)07:04
oteplo07:04
kakaltoI'm liking dvorak keyboard layout.07:05
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monkh4xkakalto, how long have u used it?07:15
kakaltoi started this morning07:16
stibbyyour doing a pretty good job then :)07:16
monkh4xno doubt, is it easy to get used to?07:16
kakaltoI'm still quite slow, but I'm learning07:17
kakaltosorta07:17
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tiagodoes any one know why gaim isent skined under my ubuntu? it was skined under mepis also running kde...07:18
vendaAfrican greetings07:18
monkh4xgreetings07:19
kakaltogreetings :)07:19
stibbyhow do i find out my local ip? i remember on dos it was "ipconfig"07:19
monkh4xstibby, /sbin/ifconfig07:20
stibbythankyou07:22
monkh4xnp07:23
tiagoguys is there any safe way to write to ntfs?07:25
tiagobecouse my downloads parition is in ntfs... and i wana use p2p under linux as well... but there is no point if i can only access the downloads under linux07:26
tiagoA newly discovered and as-of-yet unpatched security vulnerability in Windows XP could let an attacker remotely crash computers.07:28
stibbyis it possible to use samba in that way?07:28
tiagolol07:28
kakaltostibby, that would require something with write support to act as a server, wouldn't it?07:30
stibbyit could be possible to do it from computer to computer, but i'm not sure about one hard drive07:30
stibbyso probably not07:30
kakaltoit's only possible between 2 computers because one runs windows, which has write support for ntfs07:35
stibbyi don't think linux currently has ntfs write support07:37
monkh4xhere is something that may answer your q http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/07:39
kakaltoit does but it's experimental07:40
kakaltono creation of files allowed07:42
monkh4xhas anyone tried running ubuntu under a virtual machine07:45
monkh4x?07:45
monkh4xunder == in07:47
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kakaltomonkh4x, nah, since the vm software I have runs under ubuntu :P07:49
kakaltounder == in07:50
kakalto:P07:50
monkh4xlol07:50
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dell500can anyone here help me with lm-sensors to work with superkaramba/kde-look?08:01
whoiamsomeone please help me installing firefox on Kubuntu 08:01
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tiagohi guys10:07
tiagohow do i make directory using konsole?10:07
jpowersmkdir10:09
jpowersmkdir [directoryname] 10:09
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jpowerstiago: did that work for you?10:11
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xxenonkword10:32
xxenonkoffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's desktop file. Check your installation !10:32
xxenonany clue ?10:32
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Bubbling_Zombiexxenon, i'm not on kde at the moment, but take a look at this : http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2003-Dec/0115.html10:36
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RossHhello all12:56
Mezyhello RossH 01:03
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RossHwhy did ubuntu have to chose gnome :-01:23
RossH:-(01:23
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fromozeRossH because they wanted something to work-on :D01:30
fromozeRossH and because kde is may too 'independent' and strong by it self ;)01:30
fromozeRossH just stupid answers, don't believe them xD lol01:31
wincideRossH: kubuntu exists01:32
RossHya I know....I'm torn what to switch to...makes me sad both fedora and ubuntu both chose gnome01:33
RossHand to bad suse 9.3 wouldn't work with my nvidia graphics card01:33
wincideubuntu chosed gnome but kubuntu kde .. decide by yourself ...01:35
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torzmmmm damn I need some help here. I just reassembled my PC and booted the OS (everything is fine). But Kubuntu tells me it cant initialize sound because /dev/dsp doesnt exist01:50
torzbefore I took the PC apart everything was running fine... what on earth is this dsp error about?01:50
fromozehave you change your soudcard?01:53
torznope01:53
torzI'll plug the card out and plug it back01:53
torzdamn I hate opening boxes!!!01:53
fromozeyou didn't change any piece os hardware?01:53
torznot at all01:53
fromozein the same pci?01:53
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torzfromoze: I dont think its the same PCI, thats what I'm suspecting too.01:53
torzhence opening up the box which I hate doing01:54
fromozetorz: do a lspci and see if the soundcard is there.01:54
torzyep, I'll do it as soon as the os loads01:54
torzI just swapped the slots then01:55
fromozeyou're not on it?01:55
torznah I have a real computer. Its called a Mac ;~)01:55
torzheh01:55
fromozewell. I've a real deskto, it's called KDE :P01:56
torzhaha01:56
fromozemac won't be too differenf from my amd64 in a year xD01:56
torzI'm very impressed with KDE.01:56
buzsave for some eyecandy, i'm more impressed with kde than aqua01:57
torzyeah Im a little upset, my AMD64 mobo arrived DOA.01:57
torzwont even POST with bare minimum, sent it back on thursday01:57
fromozeI'll try to get a ppc mac next year... a little powerbook will be too cool xD01:57
buzmy athlon64 died after 3 weeks :(01:57
torzppc mac? heh nah Intel Macs ;p01:57
buznow i'm on a noisy as crap athlon xp again01:57
torzokay interesting, it aint complaining anymore01:58
fromozeIntel mac will came on June2006... I hope soldes on ppc mac :D01:58
fromozeI supposed it'll be like that01:58
fromozeI was thinking about askint you to restart to let autoconfig to find your soundcard again :)01:59
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torzmmm its not fixed :p02:01
fromozeno?02:01
fromoze:@02:01
torznup02:01
fromozewich problem you get now?02:02
torzthe same02:02
torzI get the same problem in kcontrol02:02
torzwhen I select the audio device to ALSA it says it doesnt know /dev/dsp02:02
torzsame with any options for that matter, even autodetect02:02
fromozebut02:03
fromozeyou get sound?02:03
fromozeopen a terminal and exec alsamixer02:03
torzno sound02:03
fromozedo you get the same error? what soundcard do you have?02:04
torzmmm the terminal kind of dissapeared!02:04
torzheh02:04
torzmmm this soundcard is something historic02:04
torzit seems to not be appearing in lspci02:05
torzill try another slot :p02:05
fromozeif it isn't on lspci... it could be son hardware02:05
fromozeproblem02:06
torzyeah it could be fried02:06
torzalthough I doubt it, I'm quite a cautious guy02:06
fromozemay be you need to push more 02:06
torzsatisfy the lady eh, sure :~)02:06
fromozemay be some rubbish in the pci?02:06
torzill blow on it then02:06
fromozeif it's an old motherboard the pci can fail :/ I see it before02:07
torzyep this thing is historic!02:08
torzI assembled this machine because the mobo for my new system arrived DOA.02:08
torzthis is my router.02:08
torzP3 550MHz02:08
fromozeI see02:08
fromozeIsn't really historic xD02:08
torzheh not quite old school Alpha eh02:09
fromozeI'll try to regenerate an p166 next september ;)02:09
torzha02:09
torzK602:09
fromozebut may be I just bet for a p733 on Cash Converter xD02:10
fromozeActually we've a k6-2 as router... but the owner let us, then we need something 'new' 02:11
torzha02:11
torzk6 is good enough for softrouter02:11
torzI think02:11
RossHdecisions decisions...fedora, ubuntu, kubuntu02:11
fromozeRossH KUBUNTU!02:11
fromozexD02:11
fromozeWich cpu? 02:11
torzyou didnt take Gentoo into account?02:12
fromozeRossH: I've try in June Suse, Slamd64 and Fedora... after that I return to kubuntu :)02:12
torzI used to use FC, FC2, FC3, then FC4.02:12
torzthen I wanted to use something good with KDE so I now run Kubuntu.02:13
RossHI've used suse, slackware, freebsd, kubuntu, ubuntu, fedora, solaris, etc.02:13
fromozeGentoo is cool! But, you need time to play with the computer... I stop using gentoo because I was always trying bleeding-edge stuff and I needed to study a little more 02:13
torzalthough I could have gone with SuSE, another distro superb with KDE :~)02:13
RossHI'm just worried that kubuntu might not have the community support like ubuntu02:14
fromozeFedora sucks for KDE :/02:14
torzyep02:14
torzit does indeed02:14
RossHtorz: suse 9.3 pro wouldn't play nice with my nvidia graphics card02:14
buzRossH: most stuff is supplied by ubuntu02:14
fromozeRossH: Kubuntu community is cooler xD02:14
torzFedora and KDE just doesnt do it02:14
fromozewhy not?02:14
buzkde is very well supported by kubuntu02:14
RossHit would install and the screen would just go black...02:14
Bubbling_ZombieRossH, there aren't that many differences, except the graphical interface02:14
torzFedora is so biased towards Gnome02:14
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fromozeI see someone says to uses yast on fedora, and people says it was a stupid option... is better KDE users need gtk-gnome administration apps..02:15
RossHtorz: which is sad...i wish they would have gone with the force instead of the dark side....gnome just doesn't seem....to be honest as good02:15
torzGnome isnt too bad02:15
torzKDE is just better02:15
fromozebut isn't as good xD02:15
RossHi have never really liked it's layout02:15
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RossHi just thought KDE has a much nicer layout02:16
fromozeRossH: did you make upgrades against european ftp's on Suse?02:16
torzI used to be a Blackbox/Fluxbox guy but I got over them02:17
RossHfromoze: it would never get that far...I have a suse 9.0 pro cd set right here02:17
torzthe obsession only lasted for a month or so02:17
RossHone thing ubuntu needs to work on is its installer *shudder*02:17
Bubbling_Zombiewhy is that RossH ?02:17
RossHbecause...it's installer may be all good for the users of linux but for grandma who needs a pretty point and click interface will be disharted02:18
torzthe sound server hates me i tell you02:18
OculusAquilaeRossH: I like the installer02:18
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fromozeI was a fvwm-crystal fan with KDE-apps inside... but Ubuntu shows me the nice Gnome and the Nautilus-spatial (i really like it!) and I've been using Gnome for some months.. but I finally come back to KDE once I started to need to work on my computer xD02:19
OculusAquilaeit don't needs much time to load usw.02:19
torzapt-get install *whatever* <- how hard is that? heh02:19
OculusAquilaeI02:19
RossHI'm talking about the actual install02:19
torzrpm -i package.rpm  <- how hard is that :p02:19
torzoh right02:19
torzwait, dont you just put the install CD in and let it do its job???02:19
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torzthats what I remember doing02:20
=== fromoze loves ncurses installer: easy, simple and fast
RossHagain...you guys need to remember that the idea of ubuntu is to have a system that can be installed and used by anyone02:20
FraeonIt is?02:21
othernoobRossH: so can any other linux distro..02:21
torzI think its fairly straight forward02:21
othernoobexcept slackware and gentoo i think02:21
fromozeRossH in ubuntu installer there's an option call: Just let me do! :)02:21
FraeonI thought it was only for people who know how to make their own programs02:21
torzif you just want to listen to music, word process, and play videos.02:21
torzoh and surfing the net02:21
fromozeGrandme would be happy to get all she need working without uses the mouse or keyboard ;)02:21
Fraeontorz: Well, games too if you don't want to play retail games02:21
OculusAquilaeRossH: i don't think that a graphical installer would be simpliere02:22
torzmmmm Wine02:22
othernoobOculusAquilae: you're quite right, just look at the Fedora Core installer02:22
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torzI mean installing Kubuntu is just the same as installing Windows imo02:22
torzsame with Fedora Core series02:22
RossHI wonder why ubuntu didn't just give you the option to go with kde or gnome....hmm..02:22
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othernoobtorz: you're wrong.02:22
asdasdhey 02:23
asdasddoes kde kiosk working very well on my gnome ?02:23
othernoobtorz: with the ubuntu installation you have no choice whatsoever, besides partitioning. the FC installer lets you choose.02:23
asdasdmy server using ubuntu and the client kubuntu ?02:23
asdasddown anyone know about it02:23
torzothernoob: mmm quite true.02:23
fromozeRossH In the next releases it will be a graphical installer, but I tell you'll stay on ncurses one once you need to do more than 3 installations :)02:23
RossHis there any way to install kubuntu on a drive that has a windows partition? The entire drive is a window partition...02:24
fromozeRossH with ncurses installe I can say you all the things you need to write :)02:24
asdasdany listen to me ?02:24
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fromozeasdasd?02:24
othernoobred_flower: i doubt anyone understood what you want ;)02:24
red_flowerdoh02:25
red_flowerhmm okay02:25
red_flowerdo you know kiosk right ?02:25
red_flowera cyber cafe software02:25
torzhmmm my sound card may be fried02:25
RossHanyone know if what i asked can be done?02:25
red_flowerit's working fine on gnome or not ?02:25
fromozeI don't use windows, but many people have win-kubuntu working...02:26
othernoobRossH: you'll have to repartition it02:26
fromozered_flower I dunno, sorry02:26
RossHmeaning I will have to wipe all the windows data?02:27
red_flowerdoh02:27
red_flower:)02:27
red_flowernope02:27
red_floweri will ask google02:27
torzyeah same I dont use Win either. Although I have a 10GB drive with Windows, just to run Dev-C=+.02:27
buzi think you can run firefox as kisok no?02:27
othernoobRossH: not neccessarily, partition magic can resize the windows partition. 02:27
torzC++ that is02:27
buzqtparted supposedly can resize it too?02:27
othernoobiirc, yes buz02:28
buzand ther should be a bootable edition of that somewhered, using qt embedded02:28
fromozeyeah, buz, there's something, I don't remember where, but I see it :/02:28
torzdamn, wtf is this /dev/dsp business02:29
torzmy soundserver is starting to piss me off02:29
fromozeif you don't see the soundcard on lspci, the problem starts on the kernel02:30
buzi think http://www.sysresccd.org/ has qtparted on it02:30
buzand qtparted is sweet02:30
fromozeif it's there it didn't reconice it02:30
fromozetorz: try to see on the Bios if the soundcard is there.02:31
fromozesome bios says about pci components; most no :/02:31
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fromozeI must cook something, I'm getting really hungry. See you.02:32
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torzwoohoo my headphones made a static sound!02:38
torzbetter than nothing02:38
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othernoobyou're easily pleased aren't you :p02:39
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torzheh02:40
torzothernoob: heh dont worry I'm pissed again. Kubuntu froze on me just then02:41
othernooblol02:41
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torzwhen I chose ALSA in kcontrol02:41
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torzoh my f*** god02:51
buzwhat02:52
torzmy soundcard started working as soon as I plugged the ethernet card in02:53
torzvery random02:53
buzthat is rather weird02:53
buzbut could be some interrupt sharing thing02:53
torzor maybe they were in love02:53
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torzcomputers are so weird02:55
buzmhh i couldnt ever decide who's weirder, computers or women02:56
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torzwoman02:56
torzcomputers complain very often but woman complain even more02:56
buzcomputers at least come with manuals ;)02:57
torzbut a well setup computers dont complain much ;)02:57
torzbut there is no such thing as a well tamed woman :)02:57
buzmhh there is02:57
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buzit needs a very well backed amex platinum for starters02:57
torzheh02:57
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torzI dont like Amex02:58
buzonly bad thing is they arent as widely accepted as visa02:58
buzso i carry both  ;)02:58
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buzmhh i downloaded the thunderbird tarball from mozila.org02:59
buzbut for some reason, it won't pick up my profile???02:59
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buz(firefox did so, no problem whatsoever)02:59
torzI dont know eh, I think I prefer kmail  over thunderbird03:00
buzmhh if the spamfilter was halfway sane i might use kmail03:00
buzthe current state of affairs is unusable03:00
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Pro_NewbieCan someone help me with Kopete03:03
torzPro_Newbie: top nick :~)03:04
torzwhats the problem?03:04
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SoPaR_SaVaRhi03:07
SoPaR_SaVaRmy name is deli03:07
torzwhats up deli03:07
SoPaR_SaVaRdo you speak turkish03:07
torznegative03:07
SoPaR_SaVaRuzman sory 03:08
torzmm mm mmmmm sava03:08
SoPaR_SaVaRhng?03:08
torzbonjour03:08
SoPaR_SaVaRbonjour 03:09
SoPaR_SaVaRyes please03:09
SoPaR_SaVaRda pajalusta03:09
torzwhy do you need someone that can speak turkish? may as well practice your english here03:09
SoPaR_SaVaRalomn alom03:09
SoPaR_SaVaRha ok03:09
SoPaR_SaVaRwhat?03:09
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torzno one cares if its shit grammar as long as caps lock is off :~)03:10
Meztorz, watch your language03:10
SoPaR_SaVaRne diyon lan trke bilen yokmu burada03:10
torzMez: haha sorry ;~)03:11
MezSoPaR_SaVaR, this is an english channel03:11
SoPaR_SaVaRmez where are you turkish channel03:12
SoPaR_SaVaR am speaking little english03:12
SoPaR_SaVaR:)03:12
Mez #ubuntu-tr03:13
SoPaR_SaVaRthank you 03:13
SoPaR_SaVaRmez what are you doing man03:13
MezI'm coding03:14
SoPaR_SaVaR'am electrik teknoloj03:14
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dutchcrimsun: got a minute ?03:23
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hapois there a netinstall .iso for kubuntu?03:31
pc8hum03:32
buzi dont think so03:34
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Mezhapo: no, but if you already have linux, I can point you to a netinstall kernel for ubuntu, and isntructions on how to install kubuntu stuff on uuntu03:41
Mezubuntu*03:41
hapoi'm running fedora.03:42
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jelhi all, how can i install kdevelop? its not listed in kynaptic and i get 'couldn't find package' when i use the command 'sudo apt-get install kdevelop'03:56
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other|studyjel: you'll need to update your sources.list03:59
jelhow do i do that?, apt-get update?03:59
Fraeon<danurban> I wonder if you could apply the wiki concept on significant others04:00
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other|studyjel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories04:01
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jelthanks mate04:09
Mezother|study, please use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto instead04:10
other|studyMez: does it matter? besides, that's a guide for gnome04:11
Mezother|study, because I've just deleted that one :D04:11
other|studyMez: that may be a good reason ;)04:12
other|studyMez: but how are newbies going to learn linux if everything is graphical?04:12
Mezother|study, and how are you going to get newbies to use it if things arent graphical04:13
Mezif you want a KDE version, use http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html#h2add04:13
mikld'oh, I got one those semi-broken versions of X before I saw the topic on #ubuntu :(04:13
Mezlol04:13
miklyeah, now my keyboard-layouts are blowing in the wind :)04:14
other|studyMez: from your point of view, that kde version should be deleted as well heh04:17
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TestMADhi all04:18
Mezother|study, no, I deleted that version because the guy went against what I'd asked him to do, and I didnt see the point of 2 pages on the wiki, when there was one perfectly good one (that the guy had already worke don)04:18
Mezthe aim of the NewUSerGuide is to link to current documentation04:19
other|studywe definitely have different opinions...04:20
Mezother|study, well, I know how I want the NUG run :D04:21
other|studyinstead of that wiki, that documentation on it should come with the installation..if by all means newbies have to be touched with gloves.. 04:23
uniqit will i breezy.04:24
uniqhttp://lnix.net/~froud/04:24
uniqhttp://lnix.net/~froud/kuserguide/C/pt08.html04:26
other|studylol "Graphical Installer: A must have or we're struck" good one..04:27
other|studyyes indeed..colours attract..04:27
other|studymaybe some choice during installation would rather be a "must have or we're struck"04:28
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other|studythe entire concept of backporting should be worked on as well, because it lacks common sense ;)04:32
TestMADwhat you mean by ..if by all means newbies have to be touched with gloves.. 04:33
other|studyTestMAD: well, how did you interpret it ;)04:34
TestMADapparently the wrong way04:34
TestMADheh04:34
TestMADdo the nvidia drivers support sli?04:37
TestMADi dont think they do..but wanna be sure04:37
other|studyTestMAD: i meant, if it's too much asked of a newbie to show some interest and learn something. ie usage of the cli.04:37
TestMADok04:38
TestMADim a newbie and learned some stuff already and ill ive done is install on vmware.04:38
TestMADgonna do a real install today.04:38
TestMADbut am going to need help04:39
other|studywith04:39
TestMADgetting doom3, moh, cod, and some other games to install04:39
TestMADfor the wife and kids04:39
TestMADand me04:39
TestMADgonna dual boot for other stuff04:39
TestMADbut i need someone thats been using a linux for a while to help me out from the beginning.04:40
other|studyafaik, they're all supported by cedega..more or less.. and there's a linux version of doom304:40
TestMADsince im dual booting and limited on hd space04:40
other|studyhow much hdd?04:40
TestMADwell..there's natives for all of those games i metioned04:40
other|study<< i barely play.04:41
TestMADwell. i got an 80g, a 20g and a 12g04:41
other|studyand you're limited???04:41
TestMADyea.04:41
other|studyhow?04:41
TestMADwell..i wanna have kubuntu as promary os04:41
TestMADand dual boot for CS2 Flash stuff and a few games.04:42
TestMADthe rest is all linux stuff04:42
other|studyand you're limited with 100gb??04:42
TestMADso i have to consider needs for both systems04:42
gdharen't games like that about 15-20G each?04:42
other|studymust be quite a few games ;)04:42
TestMADalso. i need to make sure that i mount a few partitions on boot.04:42
TestMADspecificly my video and audio drives04:43
TestMADthose will be ntfs of course.04:43
other|studyof course..04:43
other|studyso you'll only want to have read access04:43
TestMADim unfortunately still tied to M$04:43
TestMADread access is fine.04:44
other|studyMS isn't that bad..04:44
TestMADno its not.04:44
other|studyit's just not that good either ;)04:44
TestMADbut if adobe wised up..i would be very happy04:44
TestMADand if more games were done in opengl or sdl04:44
TestMADthat would be even better04:44
TestMADi have no issues with M$ for the most part.04:45
TestMADbut im now in fear of longhorn04:45
other|studywhy04:45
TestMADsome of the stuff thier implementing.04:45
other|studyit's not like you're forced to upgrade to longhorn04:45
TestMADHDCP or something like that will be awfull.04:46
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TestMADalot of ppl with LCD's right now are gonan be pissed when they upgrade to longhorn and they find out they need to buy a new LCD04:46
TestMADespecially vid editors like me04:47
yozhi geeks.. I'm trying to install gimp with apt.. but I get the following errors: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/slang/slang1_1.4.9dbs-8_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch04:47
TestMADthe us archive is broken04:47
other|studyyoz: hi newb, don't use the us archives04:47
other|studyyoz: use ca, uk, fi, de, or something else instead04:47
TestMADsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:48
TestMADand change us. to uk.04:48
other|studybut that's not the GRAPHICAL way :O04:48
TestMADowell.04:48
yozoh didn't know about that.. does .at exist actually?04:48
other|studysee what i mean..04:48
OculusAquilaeALT+F2 "kate /etc/apt/sources.list"04:48
OculusAquilae:-)04:48
TestMADwell.. i just learned something new04:48
OculusAquilaemy won't work04:49
other|studyOculusAquilae: doesn't kate have problems sudoing?04:49
yozOculusAquilae: thanls alot. ;)04:49
other|studyyoz. at exists btw..04:49
OculusAquilaeyoz: you must use kate as root with you password, which you can configure in the dialog at ALT+F204:50
OculusAquilaeyoz: at more04:51
OculusAquilaeor how it is called in english04:51
TestMADdoes anyone know if the nvidia linux drivers support sli?04:51
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yozOculusAquilae: thanks.. just fixed.04:52
OculusAquilaeTestMad: no, they don't support it04:52
OculusAquilaeyet :-)04:52
TestMADboth driver sets dont?04:52
TestMADubuntu's and nvidias?04:52
OculusAquilaeTestMAD: i think so04:52
TestMADsux04:52
OculusAquilaeit's nvidia that sux04:53
TestMADy?04:53
OculusAquilaethey don't code this feature :-)04:53
TestMADoh..yea04:53
OculusAquilaebut they are better then ati :-)04:54
TestMADwhat sux is that they dont GPL thier linux drivers04:54
TestMADwould be nice to install kubuntu and have it werk04:54
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other|studywhy should everything be gpled?04:54
TestMADwell..it would be nice to have the drivers avialable with distro04:55
Xsecrets__because Richard Stalman says so ;)04:55
OculusAquilaeXsecrets__ :-)04:55
other|studyXsecrets__: lol04:55
OculusAquilaeso, i'll go now04:55
OculusAquilaecu04:55
other|studycya04:55
TestMADbye04:55
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TestMADim afraid to do this..05:03
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TestMADheh05:03
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gigaclonI can't install libpango05:05
gigaclonMD5 mismatch05:06
TestMADok?05:06
gigacloncan anyone help me?05:09
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gigaclon!repositories05:09
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:09
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fromozeaha... that's a bot?? ubotu is a bot?05:12
fromoze!beer05:12
ubotufromoze: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:12
fromozeok, I understand... xD05:12
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gigaclonI keep getting MD5 mismatchs when downloading libpango05:13
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fromozeapt-get update or look at your sources  beginig: us. or fr. ...05:14
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gigaclonhow to save in vi?05:19
Xsecrets__esc :wq05:19
Xsecrets__you may want to run vimtutor to learn more05:20
gigaclonthat didn't work05:20
gigaclonok05:21
Xsecrets__were you trying to edit something you didn't have write privaleges for?05:21
gigaclonI didn't do the :05:21
Xsecrets__ahh05:21
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eolowhich address i have to add to apt's sourcelist to install java runtime environment?05:23
other|studyeolo: a working mirror from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java-linux-d2.html05:25
gigaclonthere a way to change Konversation's tab notification?05:25
other|studyor just get the java deb from sun.com05:25
sotyrisudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:26
sotyrijava -version05:26
TestMADwhats a good linux newsgroup program?05:26
sotyrisudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:26
sotyrijava -version05:26
sotyrithis is for you eolo05:26
gigaclonright now it lights a small light on new text in a channel05:26
gigaclonit is possible to turn the tab text colors on new text in channel?05:27
eolothanks guys05:28
sotyriwhat client are you using05:28
sotyri?05:28
gigaclonKonversation05:28
Xsecrets__Konversation05:30
fromozeKonversation05:33
other|studyfromoze: are the french repos screwed too?05:33
fromozeI don't know :/05:33
fromozeI use es. :D05:34
other|studyheh.. then why did you say what you said 20 minutes ago?05:34
fromozeI say it waiting to the answer to say gigaclon to try different ones :D05:34
other|studyyea but you also asked about fr...05:35
fromozeMy english-skills are may be too low...  05:36
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other|studythat's ok05:36
fromozeI just asked for his option.05:36
fromozeI read my comment and it's really confusing... sorry :$05:37
other|study:)05:37
fromozebut we're here to learn... some spanish classes? xD05:37
other|studylol05:38
other|studywell, if you're offering ;)05:38
fromozeask for some interesting words! xD05:38
other|studyinteresting words..heh.. i don't even know any in my language :/05:39
fromozebeer--> cerveza; pression beer --> caa ... 05:39
other|studybeer is good :)05:40
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fromozewine --> vino! v05:40
Fraeoncedega --> champagne05:44
TestMADun cerveza por favor05:44
fromozeTestMAD: bad option!05:44
TestMADhehe.05:45
fromozeuna cerveza y un pincho por favor!05:45
other|studypincho?05:45
TestMADpeanuts?05:45
other|studywoman?05:45
TestMADguy?05:45
other|studyhope not?05:45
TestMADhehe05:45
TestMADsame here05:45
fromozepincho: something solid to take with bear: peanuts, tortilla, chips...05:46
TestMADi was right05:46
TestMADyea05:46
fromozecroquetas, bombas, palometas05:46
other|studyi was wrong :(05:47
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fromozeyou wasn't wrong... 05:47
TestMADin a kinky way he wasnt wrong05:48
TestMADlol05:49
other|studylol05:49
TestMADcourse thats how most men like thier women..with beer05:49
other|studyany set release date for breezy yet?05:49
fromozeisn't really polite to ask for a pincho to a woman... but she'll understand xD05:49
fromozepincho literally is a pic 05:50
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other|studyfromoze: elaborate on spanish women ;)05:51
fromoze:P05:52
TestMADi need a good newsgroup app for kubuntu05:52
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buzbinary or text?05:52
TestMADboth05:52
buzklibido is quite acceptable for binary, as for text, there are many05:52
TestMADi was just lookin at kilibido05:53
TestMADsupport for nzb?05:53
buzshould have as of a few months05:53
TestMADok05:54
TestMADkewl05:54
fromozeAre there women in this channel?05:54
TestMADtrying to limit the reason i have for dual booting05:54
other|studysometimes, sometimes not05:54
fromozenice05:55
TestMADmy wife was yesterday05:55
TestMADwe're both trying to get into linux.05:55
fromozeI'd like to see a sexual normalization on free-software communities..05:55
TestMADso would every other linux geek thats stuck to his pc05:56
TestMADlool05:56
fromozewell don't misunderstand me :P05:56
other|studywhy are you and your wife converting to linux TestMAD 05:57
other|studyfromoze: of course not :p05:57
other|studyfromoze: you just want a pincho ;)05:57
TestMADwell.05:57
fromozexD05:57
fromozeyou're so bad with me :'(05:57
TestMADshe hates the way windows looks05:57
TestMADlikes the way kde looks.05:58
other|studyfromoze: lol :)05:58
TestMADshe installed litestep and a kde theme to get what she wanted05:58
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TestMADand i said y not go the whole way05:58
TestMADand she said ok05:58
other|studyTestMAD: i see.05:59
TestMADbesides..linux needs more support from the home user base05:59
other|studywomen..weird..05:59
TestMADas more home users use linux more software will be ported05:59
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eoloalways problem with java runtime05:59
TestMADand thats always a good thing05:59
other|studysure is06:00
eoloi can't find the address of the repository; ihave an amd64 !!!!!!06:00
eolofor java06:00
TestMADadobe is my one affliction06:00
TestMADgotta have CS2. it pays the bills06:00
buzbetter to get a win or mac box then06:00
TestMADehh..i only have a CS2 job like 2 or 3 times a month.06:01
TestMADand i usually finish in about 3 days06:01
TestMADrest of the time i would be in linnux06:01
TestMADso dual booting is ok06:01
TestMADit would just be nice to to dual boot06:02
TestMADi could always get crossover office tho06:02
TestMADthat woudl fix my problem06:02
other|studyeolo: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp how difficult can it be.. you don't depend on the repos.06:02
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TestMADdoes crossover have a free cvs?06:03
other|studyeolo: besides that, i gave you a site with mirrors of java for linux earlier06:03
_gdheolo: apt-get install java-package, download the binary from the URL other|study posted, and 'make-jpkg jre-1.5...blablabla.bin'06:03
_gdheolo: that will make a nice .deb for you :)06:03
eoloyou gave me but there's not a version for amd6406:05
other|studyeolo: there is.06:05
other|studyeolo: just for your information, the java for amd64 is still not completely ported.06:05
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TestMADso how should i partition up this 80,20 and 12 gig for use with ubuntu and winxp?06:06
eoloand what happens if i install it06:06
other|studyyou'll have the JRE 1.5.0.4 but the java plugin and java webstart aren't available yet06:08
other|studyfor amd6406:08
seth_kTestMAD: 15GB apiece for the OSes, 1GB for swap, and the rest a big datadrive on FAT32?06:08
TestMADhmm..06:08
other|studydepends TestMAD, how much do you need for windows?06:09
TestMADfat32 would hold windows and linux apps?06:09
sotyriI have a question:06:09
sotyrii have 2 computer, one with the connesion DSL and Windows xp such as operative system, and antoehrone, with Kubuntu and in network with the first06:10
other|studyi'd just use the 12GB for windows, the 20GB for linux, and partition the 80 into a 65/15, 65 linux, 15 fat32 for windows+linux06:10
sotyrihow can i share the file on  widows to KUBUNTU?06:11
TestMADyea..that sounds nice06:11
other|studyTestMAD: but it solely depends on how much you need for each OS 06:11
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other|studyTestMAD: i have a 45 and a 120. the 45 split into 20/25, 20 for XP, 25 split into 200mb /boot, 2gb swap 22gb /, 120 for /home06:13
TestMADthe 12gig is slow06:13
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fromozesotyri: you can use samba06:14
TestMADi was thinking of 20 for kubuntu, then 60 for share, and 20 for xp06:14
other|studyTestMAD: and the xp is fat32, the rest ext306:15
fromozeor if it's just files, ftp :)06:15
seth_kyou don't want /home on a FAT32 partition, because your permissions will get screwed up06:15
TestMADright06:15
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TestMADwell..xp will be used for some games..my son like halo alot.06:15
jeanlucthats all I use windows for06:15
jeanlucgaming06:15
TestMADand ill use it for CS206:16
jeanlucphotoshop06:16
jeanlucor counter stirke?06:16
TestMADyea06:16
TestMADPS06:16
jeanluc:P06:16
jeanlucI use wine for that06:16
other|studyTestMAD: 20 GB should be enough then i suppose06:16
TestMADdont like CS06:16
jeanlucI never really leared to use gimp06:16
TestMADok.now then. the data drive.06:16
TestMADfaat32?06:17
TestMADthat way i can share data between linux and xp06:17
other|studyTestMAD: you could format the 12gb one as fat32. that way xp would have more and could be shared06:17
TestMADyea.06:19
TestMADso give the whole 80 to linux then the 20 and 12 to xp06:19
other|studyTestMAD: sounds good. and the 20 and the 12 as fat32 06:19
TestMADok.06:19
TestMADlinux does read/write of fat32?06:20
other|studyyes, fully supported06:20
TestMADk..that sounds the way to go then06:20
TestMADwhat nvidia drivers for ubunto should i use?06:20
other|studyi dont know.. <<ati06:21
seth_ksudo aptitude install nvidia-glx06:21
TestMADheh06:21
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TestMADwell i didnt know if the ubuntu ones or the nvidia 7667 ones were better06:21
TestMADer..i should say more stable06:22
seth_koh06:22
seth_kI discourage installing the official nVidia ones, since you can't package-manage them06:22
seth_kbut if you have a newer card, they will work better06:22
TestMAD6600gt06:22
seth_kyeah, the 7667 would give you more fps probably, but I hear they are kind of unstable06:23
TestMADthats what i heard too06:23
seth_kimo, use hoary drivers now, wait for breezy, which will have the latest and greatest06:23
TestMADso i wasnt to sure06:23
TestMADwhens breezy?06:23
other|studysometime around in october06:24
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TestMADcool..so not too far away06:24
TestMADwhats the console irc app?06:24
other|studyirssi ?06:24
TestMADok06:24
TestMADim gonna have to use it06:24
other|studywhy06:24
TestMADsince i wont get desktop06:25
other|studyheh?06:25
TestMADnvidia drivers06:25
TestMADthey dont install06:25
TestMADso i dont get a desktop up06:25
TestMADi have to ctrl alt f1 to console06:26
TestMADand install them06:26
TestMADwell..time to convert ntfs to fat3206:27
TestMADeeeww..06:27
TestMADi hope all my data will be good afterwards06:27
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TestMADi got too much stuff on the pc.06:30
TestMADtime to break out the dvdr's06:31
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stibbyhow do you mount a drive if you have two scsi drives? how would it know which drive "sda2" was on?06:46
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jjessereload kubututu and trying to do an apt-get dist-upgrade and i'm get getting an erro about a MD5Sum mismatch?06:54
seth_kstibby: sd => removable media, A => first drive, 2 => second partition06:54
seth_kjjesse: US archive is messed up06:55
jjesseso what should i do?06:55
seth_kjjesse: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list06:55
seth_kchange all "http://us.archive.ubuntu..." to "http://archive.ubuntu..."06:55
seth_kbasically remove the "us."06:55
seth_kthen save, reload, and upgrade06:55
jjessethe lastest version of kde is 3.4 correct?06:56
seth_kno06:56
seth_k3.4.1, and you can find the sources lines by clicking that link in /topic06:56
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seth_kjjesse: you just installed a fresh Kubuntu?07:02
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seth_kfrom the CD?07:02
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jjesseyup07:02
seth_kcan you check kcontrol -> Desktop -> Window Behavior : "Move" Tab > [ ]  Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows07:03
seth_kis it checked or unchecked by default07:03
jjesseunchecked07:03
seth_kright, thanks07:04
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Frank_dotis kde 3.4.1 worth it? any problems?07:04
seth_knone, it's just bugfixes07:05
seth_kimo very worth it, it fixes some nasty issues07:05
jjessey07:05
hussamRiddell: are you there?07:05
Frank_dotok great like what?07:05
seth_kespecially the one where you can't edit stuff in kcontrol because every time you input the root password, it sends you back to kcontrol home07:05
seth_kalso the konqueror crashes07:05
hussamseth_k: are you a kde developer?07:06
TestMADso what version of kde somes with kubuntu?07:06
seth_k3.4, TestMAD 07:06
TestMADahh.07:06
seth_k3.4.1 is available for supported download from the Kubuntu devs. So you don't have to be afraid of upgrading, it's been tested and is supported.07:06
seth_khussam: I develop for KDE, but am not a KDE developer :P07:07
seth_ke.g. I work on things that have to do with KDE, but not officially, and not for KDE07:08
hussamseth_k:I'm facing this bug in kde 3.4.1 It was fixed in branch a coupkle of days ago. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10692207:08
hussamseth_k: can we have the fix for http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106922 for kubuntu's kde 3.4.1?07:09
Frank_dotwhat package takes care of everything for kde 3.4.1?07:09
seth_khussam: no fixes will get backported to hoary. Breezy comes out in October and will include that fix (and KDE 3.5)07:09
seth_kFrank_dot: see /topic for the link about KDE 3.4.1, then add the sources found there, and do an upgrade07:10
hussamseth_k: oh so we won't get kde 3.4.2?07:10
Frank_dotseth_k: upgrade, right07:10
seth_khussam: if there is one, the Kubuntu devs will probably go for it. But if not, you'll have to wait until Breezy.07:11
seth_khussam: you might ask in #kubuntu-devel where the devs hang out07:11
hussamok, I thought kde 3.4.1 was supoported with fixes. I should have probably stayed with kde 34.0 then.07:12
Riddellhussam: hi07:12
hussamRiddell: I submitted https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209607:13
miklapt keeps complaining about not beeing able to upgrade my kernel - how do I fix that?07:13
hussamRiddell: It's a dupe of http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10692207:13
hussamRiddell: but  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106922 has been fixed, can we get this fix for kde 3.4.1 on kubuntu?07:14
Riddellhussam: I'll take a look07:14
Riddellhussam: poke me if I don't get back on it07:15
hussamRiddell: Ok thank you. :)07:15
seth_kRiddell: btw, what's the procedure for applying for editbugs? I've submitted some and confirmed some and patched a couple... wouldn't use it a whole lot, but would be nice to mark the occasional dupe or invalid.07:17
Riddellseth_k: you can confirm but you can't mark as dupe?07:18
seth_kRiddell: that's right07:18
Riddellseth_k: weird.  not sure what the procedure is, best ask in ubuntu-devel07:18
seth_kalright, thanks Riddell.07:19
TestMADis it wise to have linux and xp on the same drive?07:20
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seth_kyeah, no worries there. I do it all the time07:20
TestMADk.07:20
miklplease, somebody help me fix this problem: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/112507:20
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LoKiT0seth_k hello07:21
seth_khi LoKiT0 07:21
LoKiT0i was reading your lines , thanks i just did it too07:21
seth_kmikl: what happens if you force-install the kernel?07:21
seth_kjust did what too, LoKiT0? :)07:21
LoKiT0upgrading to kde 3.4.107:22
seth_kah, good show07:22
LoKiT0but i having problems editing .list07:22
LoKiT0i don`t know how to use sudo07:22
TestMADhow should i go about partioning this drive?07:22
seth_kto edit sources.list, run the command:07:23
seth_kkdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list07:23
TestMADi want 70 at the front for kubuntu and 10 at the end for xp07:23
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seth_kTestMAD: can you be destructive? blow away all data on it?07:23
TestMADyea07:23
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seth_kokay, then you should just partition during the install07:23
seth_kchoose a manual partition07:23
TestMADok.07:23
seth_khowever, you should install Windows first07:23
TestMADok?07:23
LoKiT0i got it07:24
LoKiT0lol07:24
seth_kbecause Windows doesn't play nice with Linux already on a drive07:24
seth_kit'll wipe out Grub07:24
TestMADhehe07:24
TestMADk07:24
seth_kXP?07:24
TestMADyea07:24
TestMADxp6407:24
seth_krock07:24
miklseth_k: apt goes into an infinite loop :(07:24
seth_kokay, it includes a partitioner too07:24
seth_kso I would wipe the drive with it07:24
seth_kmake a 10GB part for Windows07:24
miklor, it stops after x iterations or so :)07:24
seth_kand maybe 5GB FAT for a share point07:25
seth_kthen leave the rest unpartitioned07:25
seth_kthen when installing Kubuntu, choose "use unpartitioned space"07:25
seth_kand it will make your swap partition etc.07:25
TestMADgot a 20gig for share07:25
miklseth_k: it keeps repeating the stuff about beeing unable to create initrd image07:25
seth_kokay, word07:25
TestMADthnx..bbl..gonna start this now07:26
seth_kmikl: you are using Hoary?07:26
miklseth_k: breezy, currently, but I had the same problem on hoary07:26
seth_kmikl: okay. Just wondering since you were using that .12 kernel07:26
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seth_kand you really have an smp system?07:27
miklno, I have a ht system, however :)07:27
seth_kright07:28
seth_kokay, let's see your /etc/fstab. Something is there is wrong07:28
seth_k*in there07:28
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miklseth_k: ok, I've updated the posting wth my fstab: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/112507:29
seth_kyou are missing a pass on /dev/hda207:30
seth_kdunno if that would do anything07:30
hussamok bye folks07:30
seth_ker, no you aren't07:30
seth_ki'm blind07:30
seth_kor pastebin wraps, rather07:30
miklah, I thought not :)07:30
seth_kokay, every page i'm pulling up on this error suggests that your root partition has changed addresses, and your fstab hasn't been updated07:31
seth_kare you sure that hda2 is your root partition?07:31
miklpretty sure, since the system boots with that fstab07:31
seth_knope, it boots because of /boot/grub/menu.lst07:32
seth_kthat's what I thought too07:32
seth_kbut apparently you can get away with having the wrong root in fstab07:33
seth_kif your grub settings are right07:33
seth_kUNTIL you run a mkinitrd07:33
miklokay, I'll check07:33
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miklnow, that's odd07:34
miklseth_k: my root-partition is in fact hdb107:35
seth_kword07:35
miklthat "might" be the cause of the problem :)07:35
miklI never knew that it was possible to boot with an erraneous fstab07:36
seth_kb/c grub is responsible for mounting your boot partition07:37
seth_ks/boot/root07:37
miklah, well. Thank you :)07:37
seth_kglad I could help :)07:37
seth_khave a good day07:37
miklah, you too07:38
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LoKiT0seth_k i got now 07:56
seth_kgreat07:56
LoKiT0just do a restart 07:56
LoKiT0i don`t have to edit the X conf?07:57
seth_kif you just upgraded KDE, just sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart is enough methinks07:57
fromozecrtl+shit+backspace :)07:57
LoKiT0ok 07:57
LoKiT0brb07:57
fromozekdm will be restarted to07:57
seth_khe's gonna come back and have been working on his doctoral thesis :P07:58
seth_kwhich is now gone07:58
doogliowow, i like that Twisted Pastebin07:58
dooglionicely done07:58
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seth_kwell, your computer did not explode it appears07:59
LoKiTolol07:59
LoKiTois good 08:00
LoKiTobut the resolution 08:00
LoKiTois horible08:00
fromozefromoze's way isn't too much dangerous xD08:00
seth_kdo you have an intel chipset?08:00
LoKiTonvidia08:00
seth_k@ LoKiTo 08:00
seth_kmmkay08:00
seth_khas your resolution ever worked?08:00
LoKiToyes it was at 160008:00
seth_kuntil just now?08:00
LoKiTobefore the restart08:01
seth_kheh08:01
seth_ksweet08:01
LoKiTonow at08:01
seth_kkdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure your Monitor has HorizSync and VertRefresh lines08:01
LoKiTo64008:01
seth_kor whatever they're called nowadays08:01
LoKiTolol08:01
LoKiTook08:01
LoKiToi remember that , fedora gave me that too08:01
LoKiTowow i did got my monitor info08:02
LoKiTobut like you say no horiz lines08:03
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seth_kwhat monitor do you have? model # too, please08:03
LoKiToim reading the info on the web08:04
LoKiToHorizontal scan range08:04
LoKiTo  30 kHz to 107 kHz (automatic)08:04
LoKiToVertical scan range08:04
LoKiTo  48 Hz to 120 Hz08:04
seth_krighto08:05
seth_kso stuff those in08:05
seth_kHorizSync 30-10708:05
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seth_kVertRefresh 48-12008:05
seth_kthey go in the Monitor section08:05
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LoKiToMonitor"DELL P991"08:06
LoKiToDefaultDepth2408:06
LoKiTook08:06
LoKiTobrb08:07
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jpatrickOthernoob08:09
jpatrick:P08:09
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lokitouff08:10
lokitolol08:10
lokitoscary08:10
lokitodin`t work 08:11
lokitodin`t even start at all , so i have to remember the path you gave me 08:11
lokitoto08:11
lokitoedit 08:11
lokitothe file again08:11
seth_khaha ouch08:11
lokitoand remove08:11
lokitothe lines08:11
seth_ksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is probably your next step then08:11
lokitolol08:11
seth_kKDE isn't at fault here, you must have changed something else since the last time you rebooted08:12
lokitomaybe i din`t put those lines08:12
lokitothe way other are08:12
lokitocuz other lines08:12
lokitogot .08:12
lokitoand sings08:12
lokitoyou think if i download and install08:13
lokitothe nvidia drivers08:13
lokitoshould work08:13
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fromozethe fromoze's way to get the nvidia drivers is: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable :)08:14
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lokitonice08:14
lokitoLet me see08:14
lokitothanks08:14
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dooglioyou also need to select the "restricted" driver stuff for nvidia drivers08:17
lokitobrb08:17
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doogliothey just don't work on my laptop :/08:18
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lokitook nvidia is working08:19
lokitogot the wallpaper at start08:19
lokitobut still the same reso08:19
doogliothe only nvidia driver that worked for me was version 611108:21
doogliothe others don't work08:21
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doogliobut I had to add a special modeline to get full resolution for me08:21
doogliobecause I have an XGA (1280x800)08:21
lokitocan you paste your lines here08:23
lokitoand tell me where and after what you put then08:23
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lokitoyour vertical and horizon lines08:23
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doogliolokito: sure08:24
doogliohang on08:24
dooglioIt08:25
dooglioseems that apache/mod_proxy is bypassing the ssl encryption and is answering08:25
doogliorats08:25
dooglioModeline"1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 824 84108:25
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doogliothis is my full xorg.conf file:08:26
doogliohttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/112608:26
doogliobut this is the software "nv" driver08:26
doogliofor the most part, you should be able to just replace the "nv" line with "nvidia"08:26
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jeanlucwell08:27
jeanlucHELLO08:27
jeanlucMY FIREJNDS08:28
doogliosalut jeanluc08:28
testmadseth_k: you available?08:28
doogliolokito: did that help?08:28
lokitoim gonna let you know in 1 min08:29
lokitobrb08:29
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lokitoniceeeeeeeeeeeeee08:30
lokitothank you very much sr08:30
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dooglionice!08:32
dooglioglad it worked08:32
doogliomodelines are your friend08:32
lokitoi can see that08:32
lokitothis distro is way better than fedora08:32
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explodewhat group allows sudo?08:33
explodethe group sudo wont allow it08:33
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doogliolokito: I agree08:41
dooglioi like this distro better than Debian too, for desktop machines08:42
fromozeexplode: visudo08:42
explodeadduser: The group `visudo' does not exist08:43
fromozeexplode: the sudo group doesn't exist, may be add users to admin and then use visudo08:43
fromozeexplode: sudo visudo :)08:43
explodemy user cant sudo08:43
explodehow do i allow him08:43
fromozeisn't the first user you create?08:44
fromozeonly the first user can admin the system08:44
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explode'works08:44
explode'worwell08:44
explodei deleted the user08:44
explodeby accedent08:44
explodeand cant login as root.08:44
explodelol08:44
fromozehow did you delect him?08:44
fromozeare you sure you do it? 08:45
fromozetry: su username08:45
explodei did08:45
explodeim positive08:45
explodei didnt know it was taht user08:45
explodeand i deleted him08:45
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explodeand now im on another users acount08:46
testmad_grrr...irssi sux or something08:46
explodecraeted a user via root login and terminole08:46
explodelolo08:46
explodeanyways08:46
explodewhat group do i need to add this user to make him the admin?08:46
fromozehave you the live cd?08:46
explodeno08:46
explodei have internet and the cd08:46
explode:P08:46
explodeits ok08:46
explodei have it controleeed08:46
fromozevisudo is a program to add user to sudo08:46
explodei can do what i ned :P08:46
explodehe has sudo08:47
testmad_can any one help me install nvidia drivers?08:47
explodei added himt o admin group08:47
explodetestmad08:47
explodenvidia has drivers 4 lkinux08:47
explodeand instruction08:47
explodetry apt-get install nvidia08:47
fromozeexect visudo please explode 08:47
testmad_ok..im stuck in console08:48
fromozethen go to the last line08:48
testmad_and newbie08:48
fromozetestmad_: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and then restart x's08:48
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testmad_ok..is there a way to install the ones from nvidias website from console?08:49
testmad_i need the grfx drivers and platform drivers08:49
fromozethe onves from nvidia? download it, stop kdm exec the installer and restart kdm08:49
testmad_hehe..can it be done from console?? texxt based browsing??08:50
fromozeyea, use links08:50
testmad_??08:50
kinfowhat?08:50
fromozeapt-get install links, then links www.nvidia..com and browse ;)08:51
testmad_ok..08:51
explodewowowoowowo08:51
explodecooool08:51
fromozeexplode: it's ok?08:51
explodeyes08:52
explode'lol08:52
explodewhats links do08:52
explode:P08:52
fromozeis a text based browser08:52
explodewow08:52
explodecoool08:52
explode::||08:52
explodelol08:52
buzis there any useable wysiwyg html editor besides nvu for linux?08:52
explodeUSE MOZILLA!08:53
explodenvu rocks.08:53
buzit produces broken code08:53
explodebuz use wine to install dreamweaver08:53
explode:P08:53
buzand knows jack shit about css, reall08:53
explodeopenoffice can08:53
fromozequanta plus :)08:53
buz+y08:53
gdh_buz: Quanta?08:53
buzquanta's VPE mode only shows me a white screen???08:53
gdh_Buz: yeh, I never had much luck with it :)08:53
buzVPL sorry08:54
gdh_and dreamweaver doesn't run on Wine08:54
explodeit does gdh08:54
gdh_not MX 2004 anyway08:54
explodemy freind hsa it running.08:54
explodemx 200408:54
buzdoesn't really matter which one08:54
buzthe newer ones are all basically the same08:54
gdh_explode: he should document how he did it, then :)08:54
explodeok08:54
testmad_does links use gui??08:54
explodehe is lazy :P08:54
buzand i need it mostly to get a rough idea how the site was built08:54
testmad_or is it all text based?08:54
fromozetestmad_: np08:54
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fromozetestmad_: all text based08:55
testmad_then y i get a blank screen?08:55
explodedude08:55
explodelinks08:55
fromozedid you do links www.nvidia.com?08:55
explodetahts cool08:55
explodeexept no images08:55
explodelol08:55
testmad_no..just links..sorry08:56
testmad_how do i exit it?08:56
explodeum08:56
explodectrl c08:56
fromozeexplode: try w3m :)08:56
explodew3m?08:56
fromozetry08:56
explodewhat is the diffrence with that :P08:56
explodewhat is it08:56
fromozeon the konsole08:56
explodeAHH!08:57
explode:P08:57
explodewow08:57
explodenice08:57
explodecolorful08:57
explode:P08:57
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gdh_I find w3m a little more intuituve for text-based browsing... 08:57
gdh_testmad_: does F10 give you a menu?08:57
explodecan the isp tell what u are loking at08:58
explodei can barely08:58
explodelol08:58
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testmad_i got the driver09:00
explodenono09:00
explode..09:00
_michaelI downloaded a Theme Manager theme from kde-look.org and opened my theme manager and clicked install theme - the theme showed up but withou preview. When I clicked apply it didn't change anything. What am I doing wrong?09:00
explodecan my isp tell im at google.com09:00
explodebecause it looks like tezxt09:00
explodelol09:00
testmad_now..where did it put it?09:00
explodeOMG I FROGT09:00
explodei got to change themes09:00
explodelol09:00
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explodeum09:01
explodei cant install firefox!!09:01
explodepackage system wont let it install09:01
jpatrickwhy not?09:01
explodeomg what do i ever do?09:01
explode:P09:01
jpatricksudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox09:01
explodeyes09:02
explodei know09:02
explodebut iw ant to kynaptic it09:02
explodei wan tot fix kynamtic anyways09:02
jpatrickjust get the konsole out09:02
jpatrickI'm getting Breezy right now09:03
explodei cant09:03
explodeit says unmet depences09:03
explodewhen i try to apt get install firefox09:03
jpatrickhmm...09:03
explode  mozilla-firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable09:03
seth_ktestmad_: back09:03
jpatrickmozilla-firefox09:03
explode                   Depends: libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable09:03
explode                   Depends: libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4) but it is not installable09:03
explode                   Depends: libgconf2-4 (>= 2.9) but it is not installable09:03
jpatrickweird09:04
explode                   Depends: libgnome2-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable09:04
_michaelne1 got advice for me?09:04
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explode                   Depends: libgnomecanvas2-0 (>= 2.6.0) but it is not installable09:04
explode                   Depends: libgnomeui-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not installable09:04
seth_kexplode, please do not paste here09:04
explode                   Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 2.9.90) but it is not installable09:04
explode                   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0) but it is not installable09:04
jpatrickwe get the picture09:04
explode                   Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.1) but it is not installable09:04
explodeE: Broken packages09:04
explodesorry!!09:04
explodei said sorry..09:04
seth_kexplode: etiquette is to use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com09:04
explode:| people these days09:04
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seth_kexplode: it's not people these days, it's common sense09:05
jpatrickcool09:05
seth_kthat's all09:05
seth_kno problems09:05
explode....09:05
explodemany channels i come from allow pasting.09:05
explodeexpecially if its an error with their program.09:05
explode:|09:05
testmad_seth_k: im having trouble installign this nvidia driver09:05
jpatrickwell don't paste books into the channel09:05
explodein the topic i dont see no pasting soryr.09:05
seth_kI guess this is your first time on ubuntu's channels, sorry. All Ubuntu channels ask that you use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com for more than 4 lines of paste.09:06
explodeanyways09:06
explodehow doi fix this09:06
seth_kthis helps to keep the channel clear09:06
explodek09:06
=== mode/#Kubuntu [-o seth_k] by seth_k
_michaelwhat channel can help me with theme manager09:06
explodekde09:06
explode#kde09:06
testmad_i d/led the driver and when i try to run it its sayin no filename found09:06
explodeheh09:06
seth_ktestmad_: hoary?09:06
testmad_no..nvidia.com drivers09:07
seth_k_michael: what's your issue?09:07
explodeso, how can i fizx this depency issue09:07
_michaelI downloaded a Theme Manager theme from kde-look.org and opened my theme manager and clicked install theme - the theme showed up but withou preview. When I clicked apply it didn't change anything. What am I doing wrong?09:07
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zaudragonhello!09:07
explodeHI!09:07
explode:P09:07
jpatrickhi09:07
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zaudragonthis r0x0rz09:07
seth_k_michael: possibly not made for kde 3.4, or a bad theme. Try another09:07
explodeYAY!09:07
seth_kword, zaudragon :)09:07
seth_kexplode: are you running hoary + backports?09:07
explodehoary09:07
zaudragonjust getting used to it though09:08
explodedont know what backports is09:08
jpatrickI'm 19 minutes away from getting Breezy :)09:08
_michaelI've tried about 5 - sum tarballs and sum theme files09:08
zaudragonhmmm09:08
seth_k_michael: #kde is your best bet then, imo09:09
zaudragondoes Kubuntu support Airport cards?09:09
_michaelk09:09
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buzare there backports from breezy for hoary or what09:09
jpatrickall of them09:09
jpatrickI think09:09
buzn09:09
buzno09:09
buzairport express is not supported09:09
seth_kexplode: it looks like you do not have universe enabled09:10
explodenope09:10
buzor whatever the 54mbit variety is called09:10
explode.etc/sources.list right?09:10
seth_kexplode: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list09:10
testmad_seth_k: got it to run..but it said that im runnin an xserver and i need to quit to install the drivers..what is it talking about?09:10
explodeor nano.09:10
explodelol09:10
seth_kor nano, if you prefer :D09:10
zaudragonbuz: well I have an Airport Extreme base station (102.11g) and an Airport Extreme card (102.11g)09:10
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buzand that works?09:10
buzlast i heard people where bitching09:10
seth_ktestmad_: You need to use CTRL ALT F1 and switch to a terminal. Log in and type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"09:10
buzwere09:10
testmad_k09:11
seth_ktestmad_: you can then proceed with installation09:11
explode deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe09:11
zaudragonbuz: nope does not work :D09:11
seth_ktestmad_: then use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start to get back to X09:11
explodeit looks enabled09:11
seth_kexplode: take out the us.09:11
zaudragonbuz: just asking, and giving more information09:11
seth_kexplode: so http://archive.ubuntu09:11
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seth_kexplode: and do that with all us. lines09:11
explodek09:11
seth_kexplode: us. archive has heavy issues09:11
buzthats what remembered09:11
buzthe access point is no issue, but the airport extreme card isn't supported09:11
explodewhy no us09:11
explodei like usa09:11
explode:P09:11
buzafaik, plain 11mbit airport does work09:12
seth_kexplode: me too :P but the US machine is broken09:12
explodemachine?09:12
explodeits a machine?09:12
explode1 machine?09:12
explodestill dosnt work09:12
explodesame errors09:12
seth_kreload09:12
seth_ksudo apt-get update09:12
explodeefven after removal of us and apt-get update09:12
seth_khmm09:12
explodehttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31456709:14
seth_kexplode: how about your sources.list? 09:15
testmad_ok..now i need to install gcc.09:15
testmad_how?09:15
seth_ktestmad_: sudo aptitude install build-essential09:15
testmad_ok09:15
testmad_thnx09:15
explodehttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31456909:16
zaudragonw00t!09:16
explodeWHAT!09:16
explode:P09:16
zaudragonfinally made Kopete look the way I like it :D09:16
explodekowhoa?09:17
explodewhat is that09:17
testmad_ok..now i need kubuntus kernal source09:17
seth_kKopete is the KDE Instant Messenger09:17
explodeoh in kubuntu is ther a dvd player or do i need to download one?09:17
testmad_err.source tree09:17
seth_kexplode: Kaffeine will do it09:17
explodekool09:17
explodeanyone know why i cant get mozilla09:17
explodeis kubuntu AGAINSRT firefox?09:17
explode!!!09:17
uboturumour has it, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me09:17
explodelol, 09:18
testmad_hehe09:18
seth_kexplode: hahahahaah09:18
seth_kexplode: you have no main repos!09:18
explodewhy dosnt firefox come with kubuntu by defualt09:18
explodelike it does with redhat09:18
seth_kb/c KDE uses Konqueror09:18
seth_kfirefox comes with Ubuntu09:18
seth_kKonqueror comes with Kubuntu09:18
explodehow will i ever fix?09:18
seth_k?? sources.list09:18
kinfo[sources.list]  example /etc/apt/sources.list with all official repositories plus KDE 3.4.1 and Koffice 1.4 from kubuntu.org can be found at: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/30380209:18
testmad_seth_k: how do i install kubuntu source?09:18
seth_kkinfo has the sources.list you should use, explode 09:18
seth_kthen apt-get update and you're good to go!09:18
explodeYAY!09:19
seth_ktestmad_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.10-509:19
explodeWORKS09:19
explode<3 seth_k 09:19
testmad_k09:19
seth_ktestmad_: add your version on the end09:20
seth_klike -386, -k7, -68609:20
explodeits most likely -38609:20
explode:P09:20
explodewow i think there is something wrong with konversation09:20
seth_ktestmad_: ask yourself, do you really need the new drivers, and not just Hoary's version?09:20
seth_kexplode: why so?09:20
explodeit has time down to the milli-milli second09:20
explode:|09:20
seth_klol09:20
buzis there any gui tool to develop regex on kde?09:20
explodelike the trillisecond?09:21
explodeor the quadrasecond09:21
explodelol09:21
seth_kbuz: there is09:21
seth_kbuz: it is called KRegExpEditor and is in universe09:21
explodeor OR the penisecond09:21
buzthanks09:21
explodewow09:21
explode:P09:21
testmad_hmm..says unable to find current kernal source tree09:22
explodeif u think kubuntu sucks raise ure hand >> *gets out the shotgun*09:22
explode:P09:22
testmad_seth_k: you were the one that said they would be better.09:22
seth_ktestmad_: but unstable, possibly. Plus hard to install. You will also need `sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.10`09:23
buzseth_k: perfekt09:23
explodeif u think winblows is better then linux raise ure hand >> *gets out the atomic bomb*09:23
explode:P09:23
seth_kbuz: it's a handy tool; i use it a lot. Very well designed and easy-to-use09:23
buzyeah09:23
explodeok is there a way to make ure defualt browser firefox09:23
buzactivestate komodo had a really handy one09:23
explodehehehehhe09:23
buzbut its closed source09:23
buzand payware to boot09:23
explodeis there a linux anti-virus09:24
explode:P09:24
buzclamav09:24
explodeu dont need antivirus09:24
explodei mean really?09:24
explodedo u?09:24
explodelol09:24
fromozethe only antivirus you need is common sense :)09:24
explodethere is viruses 4 linux09:24
explode?09:25
explodelies there is not.09:25
explodelol09:25
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fromozethere're some... but 09:25
seth_kexplode: there are no real viruses for linux. And as long as you do not run as root, you're safe anyways09:26
fromozenot dangerous if you've common sense: don't use root user for daily use and don't install thing sent by a unknown person.09:26
seth_kfromoze++09:26
jpatrickI'm installing Breezy wooohooo09:26
seth_kyou must enjoy pain, jpatrick 09:26
buzjpatrick: i wouldnt do that09:26
fromozejpatrick: !!!09:26
fromozeremember!09:26
buznot if its a box ou need09:26
explodeohoh why is firefox icon ugly in linux09:26
explodeand nice in winblowz?09:27
explodethats not fair09:27
explodelool09:27
seth_kexplode: look on the forums, you can easily replace it. Takes two seconds09:27
fromozeif problem with fonts dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :D09:27
seth_kit's because of Mozilla's licensing requirements.09:27
jpatricktoo late09:27
explodeHOW!09:27
explodeU MUST TELL ME09:27
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jpatrickWow it's setting up fine09:27
seth_kexplode: don't shout. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=58 has tons of tips.09:28
fromozeseth_k: i don't understand fromoze++ :? 09:28
seth_kfromoze: it's the IRC way of agreeing with someone09:28
seth_k++ is the increment operator09:28
explodethank u09:29
explode<309:29
explodeomg09:29
testmad_seth_k: this is aggrevating09:29
explodewhen i click a link it opens in konquere09:29
testmad_it still says that source tree wasnt found09:29
explodecna i make it mozilla?09:29
fromozeseth_k: ok.. I think I understand..09:29
jpatrickControl Centre09:29
sbcl3how come Konversation doens't let me copy text out of it with Ctrl C?09:30
sbcl3and how to i change it? it doesn't look like its in the shortcuts section09:30
seth_ksbcl3: it's a Konversation problem. Gotta use the mouse methinks09:30
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jpatrickexplode: KDE Componentment -> Component Chooser09:31
seth_ktestmad_: there are lots of people on the forums who have installed them. Search for some threads there.09:31
testmad_where does the source tree get installed to?09:31
seth_k /usr/src methinks09:32
testmad_k09:32
hussamhow can I tell when Kubuntu was installed on a machine? does it keep record somwhere?09:32
hussaman in the installation date09:32
lokitobrb09:35
explodeum i canged teh icons and it didint work :|09:35
seth_kexplode: you have to restart kicker09:37
seth_kexplode: "killall kicker && kicker" in terminal09:37
marthussam: grep Local /var/log/installer/messages09:38
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hussamOk I got that. the installation date is 6th of June.09:40
testmad_im bout ready to kick this pc09:41
explodekill all09:42
explodeor can i just restart..09:42
explodeum a browser frooze09:42
explodehow do i fix this?09:42
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martexplode: click the close button, and wait for the dialog saying it's frozen, and kill it09:43
explodek09:43
explodelol09:43
martor Ctrl-Alt-Esc, and click the window09:43
explodewhoa09:44
explodefirefox wants me to upgrade the package09:44
explodehow :!09:44
explodei just got it, isnt this the latest?09:44
explodelol09:45
martmuh!?! how did it ask you to upgrade?09:45
explodeum09:45
explodei went to download an extention09:45
explodefirefox.com says im using ubuntu09:45
explodewith not the latest version09:45
explodei have 1.0.2 the latest is 1.0.509:45
explodethey said there is a bug report in ubuntu saying that they need to upgrade pacakges?09:46
explodeim confused :|09:46
explodelol09:46
fromozeFirefox has his own upgrade manager...09:46
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seth_kexplode: you don't understand how Ubuntu works09:48
explodenope09:48
explodei dont09:48
explode:P09:48
seth_kall the fixes from Firefox 1.0.5 are backported into 1.0.209:48
seth_kbut the version number does not change09:48
explodeyep BUT09:48
seth_kso you're running like 1.0.2ubuntu5 or something09:48
explodefirefox .com dosnt reconize it09:48
seth_k?? firefox09:48
kinfo[firefox]  If you cannot install themes or extensions, go to about:config in Firefox and search for "vendorsub". Change the number to "1.0.4" and restart Firefox09:48
othernoobthe backporting is idiotic ;)09:48
explodeso how do i download extensions :|09:48
explodek09:48
explodei think so to.09:48
explodebackporting ?09:48
explodepuh.09:48
explodevendorsub isnt in here?09:49
martvendorSub09:50
explodeapp version u mean?09:50
explodeapp.version ..09:50
explodetehre is noi such variable vendorsub09:50
seth_kyes there is09:50
seth_kgeneral.useragent.vendorSub09:50
explodeoh09:50
explodebut mine says 1.0 :P09:51
seth_klike it says, SEARCH for vendorsub and change it to 1.0.409:51
explodewell it worked09:51
explode:P09:51
sbcl3are there any graphical programs for sfv checking? its a drag to keep typing at this terminal...i've got tons of .svf files to check09:53
seth_ksfv or svf09:54
sbcl3sfv09:54
seth_kcksfv or cfv will both do what you need09:55
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seth_kalthough not sure if they have guis09:55
sbcl3i have both of those :(09:55
seth_khehe09:55
sbcl3they don't have guis09:55
martbut that's what bash has for loops for :)09:55
seth_kwrite a bash script to do it for you then09:55
sbcl3there just has to be one somewhere...09:56
martreally, writing a bit of bash is probably gonna be faster than finding it09:57
sbcl3i don't know bash09:58
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testmad_ok10:04
testmad_umm10:04
testmad_nvidia.coms drivers blow10:04
testmad_time to use ubuntu's10:05
testmad_wait..how do i do a symlink?10:05
testmad_and what is it10:06
marttestmad_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink10:06
testmad_cant click..in console10:06
testmad_but thnx..will use links10:07
seth_ksymlink is ln -s10:08
testmad_see..these nvidia drivers cant find the source at /usr/src/linux10:10
testmad_which is ok10:10
testmad_cus uts nt there10:10
testmad_so i tell it where to look10:10
testmad_/usr/src/10:10
testmad_and says cant find it10:10
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martwell, which directory under /usr/src is it in?10:11
ray_anyone here?10:11
ray_does anybody know why i have to wait when changing sound applications for them to work?10:11
testmad_ok..figuring it out more10:12
martray_: probably one application is holding /dev/dsp open10:12
seth_kman ln, testmad_ 10:12
ray_mart, yeah thats what i think....anyway to stop that?10:12
martray_: well, which app?10:12
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marthmm, lsof /dev/snd/* maybe10:13
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trograinHow do I install a .binfile?10:13
ray_mart, well for example if i am using juk or xmms then try any other sound app after that i have to wait a minute for it to work....it didnt do this with gnome10:13
trograinI downloaded the newest java shitt to be isntalled so I cn run limewire10:14
martray_: kde apps use artsd, which holds open the sound device10:14
trograinbut I dont have a clue how to use the file10:14
martray_: so switching to non-kde apps is sometimes an arse10:14
martray_: either run xmms via "artsdsp xmms"10:14
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ray_mart, k10:15
trograinanyone. How do I run a .bin file? need to be able to install the jre platform that is a .bin file10:15
trograinayone???10:15
gdh_chmod a+x filename.bin10:16
martray_: or see http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA10:16
gdh_then ./filename.bin10:16
trograinbut I allready tryed with sudo10:16
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ray_mart, i actually found something in the control center10:16
trograinshouldnt that go no matter if you chmod or not?10:16
gdh_trograin: no10:16
trograinaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh, okey10:16
trograinthanx10:16
trograin:D10:16
thaniahi - can anyone tell me if there is a way to switch to root in kubuntu?10:17
ray_mart, under souns system there is a option on how long it keeps the sound open10:17
trograinuse sudo10:17
trograinor su10:17
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thaniaok, but then I'm asked for a password10:17
martray_: yeah, you could use that10:17
explodek10:17
vendaAlt+F2 the kdesu command10:17
explodei restarted and i get cant load sound driver, permissiond enied10:18
explodewhat group do i need to be added as?10:18
trograinwellll you can allways su yourself in to root in the shell and then simply create a password for root :D10:18
explodeim added to admin why cant i be added?10:18
trograinthen you will be able to login from loginmanager as root10:18
explodei did10:18
gdh_thania: you type in YOUR password10:18
explodeand i cant trograin 10:18
trograinwonder why I can then :D10:18
thaniamy password does not work10:19
ray_mart, not sure if it is gonna work how i want but we will see10:19
gdh_thania: then I don't know.10:19
testmad_hmm10:19
testmad_got it to try and compile the drivers now10:19
testmad_but said it couldnt cus nvidia.ro or .ko somehting like that was missing10:20
thaniaok, then i take knoppix to become root10:20
ray_so why do you guys use kubuntu instead of ubuntu?10:20
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explodehey10:21
explodeok i added root to a passowrd10:21
explodei try to login says root login not allowed :|10:21
testmad_how do i see what kernel version i have?10:22
ray_uname -r10:22
thaniatestmad_: cat /proc/version10:22
explodei got the automediaplayer extension in firefox but evetime i start firefox it ask me to configure it again and again and again??10:22
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martexplode: you weren't running it as root or something?10:23
thaniaok, kubuntu does not have a group wheel10:24
explodeno mart10:24
martexplode: sounds like a firefox bug, or a bug with the extension10:25
explodestop being smart10:25
explode:P10:25
martexplode: I wasn't.10:26
explodeno10:26
explodesmart10:26
explodeas in acting smart10:26
explodeas in knowing things10:26
martexplode: I wasn't.10:26
explodenot as in sarcastic10:26
explode:P10:26
martexplode: I know what you meant - I was checking you weren't runing as root to make sure that the config files hadn't got the wrong permissions10:26
explodeut oh10:27
explodei think i did!10:27
explodehow doi fidx it?10:27
testmad_ok..now it says that the kernel source doesnt match the current kernel and cant load nvidia.ko10:27
thaniabye - need restart10:27
martexplode:  chown -R `whoami`.`whoami` ~/.mozilla10:28
testmad_but it does10:28
explodei dont want to make it only mypermiissions10:28
martthat just makes you the owner of your own config files, what's the problem?10:28
explode  /me dies10:29
explodesh-3.00$ chown -R `explode`.`explode` ~/.mozilla10:29
explodesh: explode: command not found10:29
explodesh: explode: command not found10:29
explodechown: `.': cannot omit both user and group10:29
explodeits only 4 lines dont yell at me.10:29
explodelool10:29
martheh, whoami is a command10:30
explodeohh10:30
explodelol10:30
martI meant it literally10:30
explodenormally when there is a ''10:30
martso do chown -R explode.explode ~/.mozilla10:30
explodemeans put ure name10:30
seth_kmart: don't you use a : instead of . ?10:30
martexplode: never seen that10:30
seth_kor are they synonymous10:30
explode!10:31
ubotuI don't know, explode10:31
explodeim confused10:31
explodesomeone just said i dont know to me"?10:31
explodelol10:31
explode!10:31
martseth_k: . works, never used :10:31
seth_kyou're talking to a bot, explode.10:31
explodehaha10:31
explode! <3 u10:31
seth_kmart, okay. both work then. I've always used :10:31
ubotuexplode: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:31
seth_kexplode: do not mess with the bot10:31
explodeok sorry10:31
explodewhat does it do10:31
seth_kthings like this10:31
explode!google mozilla10:32
ubotuexplode: I haven't a clue10:32
seth_k!info mozilla-firefox10:32
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB10:32
explodeoh10:32
explodeok10:32
explode:S10:32
explode!info dvd10:32
seth_kexplode: don't mess with the bot!10:32
explodehmm10:32
seth_ki'm serious10:32
explodeokok!10:32
explodedang.10:32
explodewhy does he respond to me if i say it anyways10:32
explodeif ure so worried.10:32
seth_kit keys on !10:32
explodeWHY ARE U SO WORRIED?!10:33
seth_kmart, /me goes to man chown to see if . and : are different10:33
explodeim not going to mess it up??10:33
crimsunthey're not different10:33
explodei just asked it a basic question10:33
crimsun. is deprecated in favour of :10:33
martseth_k: ok, man page says :10:33
seth_kright, thanks crimsun10:33
martbah, that's a whole extra shift key :(10:33
seth_khehe10:33
testmad_seth_k: y is it that these nv drivers say that i have a diferent kernel than the source that its using?10:34
seth_ktestmad_: what does uname -a say10:34
testmad_2.6.10-5-38610:35
testmad_and source dir says.10:35
testmad_2.6.10-510:35
testmad_but i wouldnt se y that would be an issue10:35
testmad_yea..the nvkernel couldnt compile cus my current kernel isnt built with the source files im tellign it to use10:38
testmad_one question..can i still play doom at high settings with the ubuntu drivers?10:39
seth_kI would assume so10:39
seth_kthe ubuntu nvidia drivers are not that outdated10:39
testmad_good..cus im just gonna install them then10:39
testmad_this is too much of a headache..10:39
testmad_i ran out of cigarettes trying to mess with this..and i have no way to get more..10:40
ray_testmad_, what are u trying to do?10:40
testmad_needlesss to say i need to start finding shortcuts10:40
testmad_install nvidia's 7667 drivers10:40
ray_testmad_, did you look on the ubuntu page... thats how i got my drivers installed10:41
testmad_yea..10:41
testmad_and im following the directions10:41
ray_did you edit /etc/X11/10:41
testmad_i got headers and source both installed10:41
testmad_y edit?10:41
ray_cus i had to10:41
testmad_for what?10:41
ray_to get the drivers to work10:42
testmad_i dont see y.10:42
explodehow do i remove this extension from firefox, i cant start it becuase of this problem10:42
testmad_im not at that part anyways10:42
testmad_im trying to get them to compile10:42
ray_so X knows what driver to use10:42
ray_ohh10:42
ray_whats the error?10:42
testmad_nvidia.ko cant load.10:42
testmad_current kernel wasnt built using source provided10:43
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explodehow do i remove this extension from firefox, i cant start it becuase of this problem ???10:43
ray_testmad_, u got the wrong headers10:43
testmad_nope10:44
ray_testmad_, u couldnt find the binaries only the source?10:44
testmad_unless there's 2.6.10-5-386 headers.10:44
testmad_cus i got 2.6.10-510:44
explode!!!10:45
ubotufrom memory, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me10:45
ray_what does it say when you do a uname -r10:45
explodethats ure problem!!10:45
testmad_2.6.10-5-38610:45
ray_so get those!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:45
explodelol10:45
testmad_i thought i didi10:45
testmad_how do i get them again?10:45
ray_sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38610:45
testmad_ahh10:46
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testmad_heheh10:47
testmad_werked10:47
explodeexactly10:47
ray_told ya10:48
explodenow my issue :P10:48
explodehow do i remove this extension from firefox, i cant start it becuase of this problem10:48
testmad_now to edit the xorg file and then install the platform driversw10:48
testmad_wait10:48
testmad_ray_: what do i edit and what do i put in?10:48
testmad_i was looking at the ubuntu drivers thing10:48
ray_testmad_, not sure it should say on ubuntu page10:49
explode2 things how do i change my timezone10:49
testmad_if you got a link post it pls10:49
ray_testmad_, i thought you were following instructions?10:50
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testmad_yea..the ubuntu drivers one..i was about to do those..10:50
testmad_but i was following instructions of seth10:50
ray_what is the name of your card?10:52
testmad_6600gt10:52
ray_testmad_, ok10:52
ray_testmad_, did you install the drivers?10:54
testmad_yea10:54
testmad_they're done10:54
ray_testmad_, and it doesnt work?10:54
testmad_i dunno10:54
testmad_how do i restart x?10:54
ray_testmad_, just reboot..... then come back and let me know10:55
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Jeezisi <3 kubuntu11:00
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testmaddidnt werk11:00
testmadstill got black screen11:00
ray_testmad_, u should have just done a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:00
Jeezishad a bit of a time getting the repositories straightened out, but now i am most satisfied :D11:00
testmadhehe11:00
ray_testmad, would have saved u alot of frustration11:01
testmadi know11:01
testmadi can still do that tho right?11:01
ray_testmad, yeah11:01
testmaddo i need to remove the other stuff first?11:01
ray_it wouldnt hurt11:01
testmadyou know what..11:01
testmadjust reinstall11:01
testmadthat way my net werks right too11:02
martcorrect abbreviation of "that is" is "i.e."?11:02
martis that the right punctuation?11:02
ray_testmad, yeah thats always an option11:02
testmadbe back in a bit11:02
ray_testmad, your using kubuntu right11:02
testmadyea11:02
testmady?11:02
ray_nice11:02
testmadbb i a bit11:02
ray_how long does it take for u to install11:02
testmadreinstalling11:02
testmadumm11:02
testmad10-15 minutes11:03
ray_i will still be here prob 11:03
ray_see ya11:03
testmadlater11:03
ray_testmad is giving himself headaches11:05
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seth_kindeed11:05
ray_nobody told him he could apt-get those drivers11:06
seth_kI did11:06
seth_ktwice11:06
ray_really11:06
seth_khe insisted he wanted the newer ones11:06
ray_whats the difference11:07
seth_k[19:20]  <seth_k> testmad_: ask yourself, do you really need the new drivers, and not just Hoary's version?11:07
seth_kthey're newer? :P11:07
ray_if anything the hoary ones work better though11:07
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seth_ki'm on breezy, with no drivers at all11:08
seth_kbut it's okay because America's Army 2.4 isn't out for Linux yet11:08
ray_breezy just works?11:08
seth_kno, breezy's drivers are broken :P11:08
ray_yeah i still have 2.311:08
seth_kjust using the nv driver11:08
seth_kwith no gl11:08
ray_yeah i have an ati and the fglrx drivers work awesome11:09
ray_do you know where i can get more screensavers for kde?11:10
gdh_ray: apt-get install rss-glx11:10
gdh_lots of beautiful OpenGL screenies11:10
ray_ok thanks11:11
paxkdeartwork is what you want?11:11
gdh_http://www.reallyslick.com/ etc.11:11
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ray_anyone else have problems using the 686 kernel?11:11
seth_kon .10 or .12?11:11
ray_1011:12
ray_i installed them to get full use of my ram and after that my system wall all out of whack11:13
ray_so now im stuck with 38611:13
ray_they worked fine with regular ubuntu11:13
seth_kthat's not specific enough for anyone to help you :P11:14
ray_but i like kde so much better11:14
seth_kerror messages, aberrant behaviour, what?11:14
gdh_hint: the kernel packages are identical between ubuntu / kubuntu :)11:14
ray_system freezing11:14
ray_gdh_, yeah i know thats why it is so bizzarre11:14
gdh_not just 'compiled the same way' - they are byte-for-byte identical .debs :)11:14
gdh_heh cool11:14
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ray_im gonna try it again11:15
ray_r u guys using xchat?11:16
seth_kugh no11:17
seth_knot on KDE11:17
seth_kKonversation11:17
ray_really11:17
ray_brb need to reboot with 68611:17
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ray_hello 11:19
ray_again11:19
ray_seems to be working but it did break my sound need to recompile alsa11:20
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zaudragonhello...11:20
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zaudragonit crashed and I got a Kernel Panic on Mac OS X afterwards11:21
ray_seth_k: u there?11:22
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seth_kyep11:22
ray_seth_k: konversation is better11:22
seth_kI like it better11:23
seth_kplus it's all KDE-ified and shiny11:23
seth_k;)11:23
ray_anyone know how to share a printer with an xp system?11:27
sbcl3samba11:27
seth_kyou can do it all from the Printers applet11:28
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testmadray_: im back11:28
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testmadclean installand net werks right11:28
testmaddont have to dhclient all the time11:28
ray_seth_k: when it asks for server i type the ip address11:29
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testmadtime for nvidia drivers.11:29
testmadlemme edit sources.list11:29
ray_testmad: i will brb11:30
testmadk11:31
testmadapt-get updating11:31
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Willy-WankaLets Boogie!11:36
gdh_:DD11:37
gdh_Well done - the biggest laugh today :)11:37
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Willy-WonkaWow, your really weird.11:40
gdh_thank you :)11:43
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Willy-WonkaChewing gum is really grose, chewing gum I hate the most!11:49
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leafwHi. How can one show presentations in PDF in full screen other than with acroread?11:53
leafwthe kpdf "full screen" does not show the slides alone, but with bars and buttons.11:53
martuse presentation mode11:53
martin the view menu11:53
leafwthanks11:53
leafwhum no such mode is listed ... is it a special option?11:53
leafwooops11:54
leafwthere it is11:54
mart:)11:54
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leafwhummm ... the pdf was done with CMYK images in InDesign, and in kubuntu it looks as if it was RGB, the images look saturated and have lost part of the colors. Too bad.11:56
leafwI was hoping I could impress the audience by using linux on this mac11:57
gdh_leafw: It's more fun to horrify Mac weenies by *not* running OS X on a Mac :)11:57
leafwyai the problem is the presentation does not look good11:58
leafwand this is a dissertation I'll have to defend in public11:58
leafwthe images must look good.11:58
seth_kleafw: CMYK is a print thing... it's not gonna show up right on any computer monitor, Linux or not, in a PDF format, methinks12:00
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leafwlooks great from the macosx end12:00
leafwin this very same computer12:00
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leafwbut then macosx displays are all pdfs, it's supposed to be great at showing them.12:01
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testmadseth_k: guide me to install nvidia drivers..too difficult trying to find it with links12:01
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seth_ktestmad: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:02
seth_kdone12:02
seth_k:P12:02
seth_kthat's one command, entered in terminal12:02
testmadi swore there was more12:02
seth_knot if you use Hoary's drivers12:02
testmadinstall nvidia settings12:02
testmador something like that12:03
gdh_seth_k: Is there something equally easy for ATI cards?12:03

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