[12:04] hmm, anyone got that video with mdz and sabdfl that got blogged @ planet.debian.org? [12:04] seems the link doesn't work anymore [12:05] when was it posted? [12:06] 2005-07-16 08.07.00 [12:06] Joey Hess: thanks.. [12:06] wow, classpath has 1mil lines of code [12:08] Gnobody: I don't need naked pictures of cristina scabbia, I have 1 million lines of code! [12:08] :0 [12:10] yes and in that world there are two sexes; emacs, and vi [12:11] then tell me what nano is! [12:16] there was an announcement about an ubuntu-artwork team. is there a wiki/web page about it somewhere? (sorry, lost original email) [12:17] yes [12:17] ArtworkTeam [12:17] or ArtTeam [12:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam [12:17] (the wiki search is really good btw) [12:18] i just seemed to have entered the wrong keywords. [12:20] fair enough [12:21] Nano R0x! :-) [12:27] Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com[82.211.81.151] :80... failed: Connection refused. [12:27] feh [12:27] http://www.pumuki.org/?q=node/119 [12:27] owned. === bob_too [~chris@rrcs-24-153-179-246.sw.biz.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] Nafallo: I saw it on somebody's laptop here before it got uploaded, I forget who it was though [01:01] bye ! === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] daniels: libxcursor still mentions libXrender.la, can I do an upload to fix that? [01:30] I've already uploaded a xcursor package 2 days ago [01:30] you should better ping a buildd guy to know why there is no build log for it [01:31] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xcursor/ [01:31] dcop, bonobo and dbus do the same thing, will dbus get standard? [01:31] there is no build for the 1.1.4 packages [01:31] they don't do the same thing [01:31] lamont: back from your wanderings? [01:32] seb128: they can do the same thing [01:32] no [01:32] dbus is not a bonobo replacement [01:32] hm. ok [01:32] it's simpler [01:32] bonobo is simpler? [01:32] no, dbus [01:32] mitsuhiko: dbus will replace dcop if someone can make nice enough bindings for KDE [01:33] bindings as nice as dcop has :) [01:33] thanks for the informations [01:33] so I can use bonobo for my python project [01:33] depending of what you try to do [01:33] if dbus does what you want better to use it [01:33] bonobo is beeing dropped because it's to complex to use [01:34] so bonobo is dying? [01:34] I would not say that [01:34] he's standing where it is [01:34] but new code is not using it [01:34] ok. thx [01:35] np [01:35] my problem is that i'm using hoary at the moment and there is the old dbus api which is not compatible to the new one [01:35] xcursor is dep-wait pkg-config but pkg-config is installed fine [01:35] tsk [01:36] <\sh> grmpf [01:36] where do you get the dep-wait? [01:36] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Lists/breezy.all.i386 [01:36] thanks [01:37] probably needs lamont to poke it [01:37] wake up infinity, fix xcursor so me and seb128 can go to bed :) [01:37] that too :) [01:37] 23:31 * lamont wanders off [01:38] bah [01:40] <\sh> so..we should go and sleep....today is another day to kick [01:40] <\sh> oh [01:40] <\sh> esc+4 != esc+5 [01:41] <\sh> anyways...off to bed === stratus [~stratus@200216029229.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carstenh [~carstenh@p54A629E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] hey, when I do make on a program i do the following: ./configure 'CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' 'build=i686-linux' 'CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' 'build_alias=i686-linux' [02:49] how do i point it to gcc 4 [02:49] with make not ./configure [02:49] you use breezy, which has gcc 4.0 as the default [02:49] using gcc 4.0 with c++ code on hoary will break [02:49] i have gcc 4 installed through backports [02:50] that'll work awesomely then [02:50] but as above [02:50] i don't have to do a 'gcc=4'? [02:51] if this program involves C++ code, you can't use gcc 4.0, sorryy [02:51] unless it's so simple it uses nothing but libstdc++ [02:51] na, it's gimp [02:51] lol [02:51] i'm working on a more optimized version for distribution [02:52] and i hope all those options will work like that, it has in the past [02:52] then set the C compiler when running ./configure [02:53] you're doing benchmarks to find if gcc 4.0 is usefully faster? [02:53] so, do this instead? ./configure 'CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' 'build=i686-linux' 'CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' 'build_alias=i686-linux' 'gcc=4.0' [02:53] no [02:53] no, i just want to make an athon/i686 optimized version of it [02:54] ./configure 'CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' 'build=i686-linux' 'CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -pipe -O3' CC=gcc-4.0 [02:54] with O3 [02:54] er... [02:54] if you're not planning to see if it's faster, what's the point? [02:54] well, a little of both [02:54] i can't seem to download my breezy packages: get connection refused from the various archives.ubuntu.com I've tried. Does anyone know what might be up? [02:55] OddAbe19: I mean "what's the point of making your own k7-specific package if it's not actually faster?" [02:55] it sort of is, loads faster [02:55] and some of the plugins work better [02:55] that's why [02:55] it's because i'm a speed whore and want to get every last bit [02:55] lol [02:56] ah, so, you have benchmarked it and found it faster [02:56] meh [02:56] lol [02:56] if by benchmark you mean stopwatch [02:56] lol [02:56] human error [02:56] tenth of seconds faster [02:56] but i'm a speed whore [02:59] OddAbe19: how much time do you spend to optimize your system? [03:00] not much [03:00] just most packages i use usually [03:00] and my kernel === jp [~jp@200-126-69-102.bk5-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [~sfvt@pool-64-222-117-63.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:45] "my name is nikolai, and I'm that annoying guy who keeps pushing his idea of a new logo/mascot for ubuntu: the medicine mask!" [03:45] speachless. [03:47] tseng: -devel/-users? [03:47] tseng: lol [03:47] sladen: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-July/thread.html [03:47] sladen: he posted in triplicate (html) [03:48] THE MASK CONQUERS ALL === ugo [~ugo@CMU-147125.WV.CC.cmu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] ugo: the list, not the channel [03:49] im not pasting anything here bob2 [03:49] jeeze...lighten up [03:49] bob2 is the channel hammer dude [03:49] oh, in an HTML stripped part, even better [03:50] yeah he did a fine job on two "sweethearts" about an hr ago === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:59] cool, debian's udev problem got resolved === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:04] sabdfl and mdz got drunk and started dancing together? i can't see the video, it's gone [04:04] Hmm === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:29] eh? [04:30] Riddell: what do you need poked? [04:31] xcursor. rigth. [04:31] dep-wait cleared. === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] *blinks* [04:39] so sorry to disturb but does anyone know if its possible to have gcc3 and gcc4 on the same box [04:39] aye [04:39] Should be fine [04:39] I have /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 and /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth_k has those and 3.3 too [04:40] Armanath im guessing this isn't the proverbial aptitude install [04:40] daniels: you have an ETA on the xdpyinfo/xhost/xrandr/xsetmode/xsetpointer packages? [04:40] TerminX: Next week, maybe. [04:41] d'oh [04:41] I thought that he'd said "tomorrow" when asked about it yesterday [04:41] I guess I was mistaken :) [04:43] btw that Nikolai guy is insane, the medicine mask guy. He does not understand the concept of mailing lists at all [04:43] plus his mask sucks, because 1) it's too complex for a logo, 2) it doesn't represent Ubuntu, 3) it is rather stereotypical, 4) it is ugly (opinion) [04:45] seth_k: the artwork itself is good. 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[09:54] probably [09:54] python distutils? [09:55] yeah [09:55] Amaranth: is aunt tilly a web developer? [09:55] (or above) [09:55] no, aunt tilly is esr's fictional end-user [09:56] she _might_ know what firefox is [09:56] end users can be low end developers [09:56] maybe [09:56] if her nephew has explained it to her more than once [09:56] but if she's specifically not, then yes, it's absolutely insane [09:56] jdub, can you give me a quick opinion on the wiki page death I just sent to the -devel list? [09:57] Basically if someone knows what distutils is, they should know how to get it or how to get help. [09:57] If they don't know what it is and need to use it, we've failed. [09:57] Burgundavia: dunno [09:58] jdub, that was quick but no exactly what I was looking for ;) [09:59] you're not really asking the right person [09:59] who should I ask? [10:03] Burgundavia: you've posted your question to the right list [10:03] "It's target audience is high school students and Refugees." [10:03] ^ awesome [10:03] that is one heck of a target market specification [10:03] that apostrophe is grating on my eyeballs [10:04] jdub: second-hand bookstore? [10:04] jdub, cheers and I understand you just got back from japan [10:05] Burgundavia: i did? rad. [10:05] oh [10:05] did you enjoy your non-trip? [10:06] someone really needs to fix the launchpad SSL key [10:06] Treenaks: ubuntu lite [10:07] jdub: Cool === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.3.132] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] morning === highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] jdub: ping? === madduck [~madduck@madduck.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] when and where is ubuntuconf? is there a url? [10:29] not announced yet [10:29] mh, ok. === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] hi === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davyd [~davyd@oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:14] hey, does anyone have links to an amd64 binary for xbase-clients -36? [11:16] ok, possibly ignore me on that front [11:17] hehe [11:17] still need it? [11:18] I didn't get around to fixing it last night [11:18] I saw the xlibs links though, now I just need to grab them [11:18] mmm, w3m [11:18] ok... [11:19] still need it? [11:19] yes or no please, it's 4am [11:19] doesn't matter anyway, morgue.ubuntu.com doesn't have them [11:20] morgue seems to be dead [11:20] yeah [11:21] ok, I seem to have found them [11:21] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xbase-clients_6.8.2-36_amd64.deb [11:21] err [11:21] oh yeah, the amd64 buildds fell over [11:21] you shouldn't have any problem on amd64, it looks like the latest X you have is -36 anyway [11:22] yeah, except for xlibs [11:22] which is arch 'all' [11:22] xlibs -42 is fine here? [11:22] wait, no it isn't [11:22] -41 was [11:22] -42 shouldn't be any more broken than -41, certainly [11:22] at least, I don't think [11:23] but xlibs is just a metapackage, isn't it? [11:23] davyd: if it's any consolation, my laptop is stuck in console mode, my amd64 won't accept any keyboard input, and my powerpc is also in the console === Amaranth giggles [11:23] i guess that's great motivation to fix something though :D === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] yeah -- specifically, the modular server [11:24] which I'm fixing now [11:24] btw, are the all changes you're making going into xorg cvs? [11:24] trying to track down exactly how gcc4 miscompiles i810_drv.o, making the modular server happy with big-endian machines, and stuff [11:24] yeah, they are [11:24] gcc bugs are always fun [11:24] daniels ; are you in Melbourne at the moment? [11:24] did it work on 4.0.0? [11:24] davyd: yeah [11:25] daniels ; someone said you weren't [11:25] Amaranth: pretty sure it didn't [11:25] daniels ; is there some sort of mail order liquor store in Melbourne? [11:25] davyd: uhm nope, I've been here for a fair while now [11:25] davyd: since LinuxTag [11:25] davyd: not that I'm aware of ... [11:25] daniels ; hmm [11:26] I was going to send you a sixpack, but I'm too stingy to fedex it from Perth [11:26] haha [11:26] dude [11:26] what for? [11:26] daniels ; because I said I would, and you refused to fix my Xserver till I do [11:26] hey everyone [11:26] and maybe then you'd feel guilty and drunk [11:26] and perhaps you'd fix it [11:27] I need to buy more Squire, so that I can read chapters 2, 3 and 5 of the fucking story [11:27] because my six-pack only had chapters 1, 4 and 6 [11:27] twice! [11:28] also, it seems wrong to be using a console on a 20" LCD screen [11:28] daniels ; what's your ETA for getting some sanity into this? === davyd discovers there is no version of xvinfo for amd64 [11:29] that seems to be messing up my dependancy tree pretty bad [11:30] <\sh> amd64? [11:30] <\sh> it's out of order..,-) [11:30] davyd: amd64's buildds are all dead [11:30] go GCC-4.0 it's your birthday! [11:30] daniels ; oh man, still? === eruin [~eruin@85.89.192.56] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] davyd: well, elmo's been on holiday ... [11:31] davyd: making xbase-clients and xlibs installable are my first priorities, bugger everything else [11:31] daniels ; righto [11:31] i'm forecasting tuesday [11:31] I can start building things [11:31] do source packages still get updated when the binaries don't? [11:31] because at this stage, I need to modularise every single remaining library before xdpyinfo can be built === davyd builds a new xvinfo [11:33] excelltn, now I can install gdm [11:33] I feel like a gentoo user [11:34] <\sh> davyd: oh u r using this funny little filemanager as well? *lol* [11:35] hmm? === davyd builds gnome-panel [11:35] how hard is it to set up a buildd? [11:35] http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/gentoo [11:36] oh, I know about that thingy [11:37] I almost installed fc4 on this machine [11:37] disturbingly ugly [11:37] because it has the tools I need === Amaranth whips davyd [11:37] should I create an enh.bug on the ubuntu bugzilla if I'd like to see some added functionality for shares-admin ? [11:37] naughty! [11:37] but I would have no idea how to install Mono on it [11:37] or a chroot [11:37] dchroot and debootstrap are wonderful tools [11:37] or should I take the discussion to the seemingly dead system-tools list on mail.gnome? [11:38] eruin ; why not file it in the GNOME bugzilla? [11:38] <\sh> davyd: it's funny that u can do a `emerge debootstrap` on Gentoo ,-) [11:38] that's probably the best now that you mention it :) [11:38] \sh ; does it work the same? [11:38] ie. install a Debian chroot? [11:38] <\sh> davyd: yes [11:38] \sh: any idea why wine is still uninstallable in breezy? [11:38] \sh: (the GLU mess?) === davyd laughs [11:38] daniels: i thought you said you could only get xbase-clients done by tuesday if you worked non-stop through the weekend and didn't have any problems [11:39] <\sh> treenaks: it builds ... lemme check [11:39] I didn't realise how patched Fedora was till I started using it at work [11:39] Treenaks, its due to xorg being broken [11:39] eruin: GLU madness [11:39] Yeah, blame everything on xorg being broken! [11:39] :) [11:39] but it did ship with GCC-4.0, which was a nice touch [11:39] xrandr not split out etc [11:39] Amaranth: but wasn't xorg broken because of GTK boogz? [11:39] <\sh> treenaks: i will give it a punch in the face...now [11:39] haha === davyd snerks [11:40] \sh: \o/ [11:40] <\sh> or me? [11:40] "it's a bug in GTK" then it got fixed in xorg :) [11:40] \sh: I'm building the current source locally now.. see if it works [11:40] daniels ; non the less, if you locate some sort of online beer mail order system, located in fair Melbourne, let me know === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@a130-233-4-225.debconf5.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] <\sh> no I don't blame anybody for doing mistakes... [11:40] davyd, oooh, no more leaving the house? [11:40] davyd: That'd be stupid, kids would be ordering beer. [11:41] davyd: heh, sure [11:41] dude, this is Australia [11:41] kids can already buy beer :p [11:41] kids already buy beer [11:41] you see them on the foreshore drinking EB [11:41] Amaranth: i think if I work non-stop through monday and tuesday with no problems, I can sort it [11:41] any timeframe on the new live/install work landing? [11:41] Amaranth: i'm actually using my weekend as a weekend; it's novel [11:41] thankfully they stopped making Swan Gold [11:41] (hacking on the modular server instead) [11:41] daniels: wtf are you doing on IRC then? [11:42] haha [11:42] davyd: eep, swan is terrible [11:42] Amaranth: sucker for punishment [11:42] <\sh> hmm [11:42] this exa stuff seems pretty buggy [11:42] daniels ; exactly === davyd still has a Coopers Pale in the fridge [11:43] eek, i accidently found the detach tab keyboard shortcut in xchat [11:43] <\sh> strange dependency [11:43] ctrl-I [11:43] whew [11:43] i couldn't get it back [11:44] the problem with working in open source is that the idea of a weekend becomes blurred [11:44] <\sh> aye [11:44] hmm [11:44] I am experiencing a similar problem with this working from home thing [11:44] <\sh> mesa-common-dev [11:44] weekends are when your users will bitch the most [11:44] <\sh> is seriously b0rked [11:44] my rhythmbox craches ;-) [11:44] brilliant idea, write it down, explore it a bit, find you've implemented it [11:44] Nafallo: Mine plays the flute. [11:44] or really, it crashes :-) [11:44] <\sh> ok...fixing first the mesa deps in mesa-common-dev [11:45] hmm, it's always the -data packages [11:45] Amaranth: I'm on amd64, I guess I build it locally soonisch :-) [11:45] anyone here have xbase-clients -36 ? [11:45] the buildd dies and it all goes to shit [11:45] because there are still new -data packages [11:45] haha [11:45] someone has a mirror of them too [11:46] if you can find them in the logs [11:46] Amaranth: baah, I got a pbuilder :-). the only problem is getting source over this crappy ADSL of mine ;-) [11:47] Nafallo: i meant xlibs-data 6.8.2-36 :) [11:47] Amaranth: ahh *s* [11:47] my muine and rhythmbox both suck [11:47] something somewhere forgot to check for errors [11:47] grab sonance cvs :) [11:47] well, i wanna help out two (: [11:47] probably in id3 reading, everyone seems to suck at that [11:48] sonance cvs starts, randomly [11:48] ehehe [11:48] i mean, sometimes i get a real GUI, sometimes i get half a gui overlapping itself [11:48] that is insensitive [11:48] that's cute [11:48] but some of the things still prelight [11:48] daniels, when should I start reporting X autoconfig regression bugs? [11:49] hey if i want to help out packaging what should i do? [11:49] cat, talk to the people in #ubuntu-motu [11:49] cat: join the MOTU :) [11:49] cat: basically repeat that sentence in #ubuntu-motu :-) [11:49] alright (: [11:50] <\sh> hmmm... [11:50] <\sh> actually... [11:50] <\sh> I know where this comes from... [11:50] <\sh> wine_0.0.20050628 is not in the archives.. === icaro [~icaro@adsl-ull-127-28.44-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] <\sh> the source yes...but not the binaries === \sh 's looking around for some NEW love ,-) [11:51] \sh: then there was a build error [11:51] <\sh> no [11:51] no? [11:51] <\sh> it's in new i think [11:51] \sh: wine is already packaged.. how can it be in NEW [11:52] \sh: it should just replace it [11:52] <\sh> no...i will replace a lot of old bins...and I think it's stucked somewhere [11:52] <\sh> i386 is build [11:52] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/w/wine/0.0.20050628-1/ [11:54] <\sh> Treenaks: have the same problem with gfccore [11:56] <\sh> but it's a good time to upload it with the right version number ,-) === chris^duschen [~chris@ACB50292.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris^duschen is now known as chris` === bonvenon [~linus@83.233.1.197] has joined #ubuntu-devel === littlepaul [~littlepau@p5084FC84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:15] <\sh> guys...can anyone approve my theory, that right now, "empty the trash" in gnome is not working? [12:17] you have something in there you aren't allowed to delete? [12:17] \sh, in my breezy it works fine... [12:18] <\sh> hmmm... [12:18] <\sh> Amaranth: no [12:18] <\sh> oh [12:18] <\sh> moment [12:18] <\sh> funny [12:18] \sh it works for me too [12:19] <\sh> empty trash doesn't update the trash ...clicking on the files with the right mb..disappeared...strane [12:20] <\sh> can someone kick kdelibs4 again,pls? === gbon121 [~chatzilla@d81-211-184-97.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [~shackan@host81-81.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] <\sh> moins pitti [12:41] pitti: Hey Martin :-) === pitti is back and enjoys is brand new amd64 [12:42] pitti: do you have pmount in a baz archive somewhere? [12:42] Mithrandir: it's in bzr === littlepaul is now known as littlepaul_eat [12:43] pitti: hm, ok. [12:43] Mithrandir: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/bzr/pmount [12:43] pitti: shame you left already, I wanted to discuss some stuff about mmount with you. Basically what hooks would be good for you to have. === nasdaq7 [~gfhgfa@tkp-ip-nas-1-p218.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] Mithrandir: mmount the successor to pmount? :-) [12:44] sivang: no, the modular mount which is the successor to the current mount. [12:44] hopefully. === shackan_ [~shackan@host165-79.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdthood [~jdthood@aglu.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] Mithrandir: so far I need hooks for "authentication" (removable, fstab, /etc/pmount.allow) and some device map checks (is a device encrypted and devmapper needs to be set up?) === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D1F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] pitti: pmount shouldn't care about encrypted stuff, that should be a luks plugin. [12:47] pitti: plugins should be stackable [12:48] have to run now, I'll be back in half an hour or so === chris` [~chris@ACB50292.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] [12:57] pitti: I want to reassign a bug. In what package would a new button on System|Preferences|Sound be implemented? [12:58] jdthood: I think it's control-center [12:58] k [12:59] There is also a 'gnome-control-center'. Not that, eh? [12:59] jdthood, that is it [12:59] thanks === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:04] hi pitti [01:05] <\sh> I wonder if it's possible to build wine on amd64 === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:12] hmm, I still can't start X [01:13] <\sh> davyd: fixed font? [01:13] \sh ; wine will work in a chroot, I don't like your chances of making it work in 64-bit === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.32.194.57] has joined #ubuntu-devel === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.32.194.57] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [01:13] <\sh> davyd: no..i mean using 32bit compat libs for amd64 e.g. [01:14] \sh, just building it... [01:14] <\sh> ogra: nice :) [01:15] <\sh> looking at the time... [01:15] \sh, lets see.... needs about 100 pkgs not in my pbuilder yet [01:15] meh [01:15] Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/libxaw7_6.8.2-34_amd64.deb [01:16] hmm, I don't like the error that Xorg is giving me === ogra updates his pbuilder [01:17] failed to load module keyboard [01:17] failed to load module mouse [01:17] failed to load module nvidia [01:17] <\sh> change "keyboard" to "kbd" [01:17] Hi shackan_ [01:18] \sh ; where does this change come from? [01:19] this is xorg-36 [01:19] <\sh> oh.. [01:19] <\sh> I have -42 [01:19] <\sh> yeah...-36 should be keyboard [01:20] hmm, it's a bit strange [01:20] I got -36 and has to use kbd, fwiw [01:20] well, what about the other two? [01:21] incidently 'kbd' doesn't fix it [01:21] davyd: you will want xserver-xorg-input-{kbd,mouse} [01:22] aah, nice [01:22] xserver-xorg-driver-nv should be nvidia :-) [01:22] +1 funny [01:25] ok, so I have everything bar whatever is needed to make nvidia work === davyd guesses he needs nvidia-glx [01:27] which is nicely uninstallable [01:27] davyd, that in l-r-m .... we dont have it yet [01:27] thats even [01:28] ogra ; I built the kernel module by hand [01:28] ah [01:28] using make-kpkg, the old fashioned way [01:28] nvidia-glx appears to have what I want, I might have to have a crack at building it later [01:28] \sh, wine with gcc4 seems not to work on amd64 [01:28] checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [01:29] <\sh> ogra: hmmm.... [01:29] ogra ; check config.log [01:29]