=== highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] bah, no linuxconf package [12:51] linuxconf is crap anyways [12:56] I like it [12:56] So package it :-) === havoc is lazy [12:56] which is why I like it ;) [12:56] Heh [12:56] stream cast is so lovely.. they're playing speak english or die :) [12:56] bddebian: I just may have to === havoc is playing Simple Minds [12:57] yay 80's [12:57] ugh === havoc feels old :| [12:57] heh i got XStreamCast running on ubuntu [12:57] Heh, I've got the cap on old :-) [12:57] now to port MutantMedia to linux and package it for ubuntu [12:58] MutantMedia? [12:58] embedded media player people where i work wrote [12:58] Ah [12:58] runs on our libOS [12:59] exokernels are fun [12:59] uKernel! [12:59] bddebian: how old is old? [12:59] :-) [12:59] havoc: 35 [12:59] bddebian: you *barely* have me beat [12:59] bddebian: something of that sort, except without the kernel :) === havoc = 32 [01:00] nn: I know, I was joking. I'm a GNU/Hurd "guy" :-) [01:00] our "kernel" is a multiboot image of the dynamic linker [01:00] then grub passes to it the libmachine, libio, libvmm, and libfs [01:00] geez, I need another beer [01:00] nn: Interesting [01:00] so anyway, I put ubuntu on a 1.2TB fileserver this morning [01:00] then it can load the rest of the libraries off the fs and the linker sets up emulation paths [01:01] havoc: http://www.voresoel.dk/ [01:01] bye ! [01:01] bddebian: nah, just MGD [01:01] bddebian: wanna know the cool part? :) [01:01] bddebian: It runs linux binaries [01:01] provided you have appropriate libs in place, of course [01:02] nn: That is very interesting indeed. Is this for a real-time application? [01:02] bddebian: right now it's an experiment [01:03] Ah [01:03] bddebian: see, i was working on an emulation project [01:03] for college [01:03] Well GNU/Hurd is about a 15 year old experiment too.. ;-P [01:03] heh [01:03] Realized an exokernel is -perfect- for emulation because you can substitute any part of the system on the go [01:07] bddebian: right now it's very messy (code is cleanish, but the build system is under development and crashs a lot) [01:08] also, some people wont like the fact that it's mostly objc [01:08] but NeXT was objc and very nice on a 33mhz m68000-class === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jp [~jp@200-126-69-102.bk5-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem_ [~rem@adsl-138-25-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian looks at MOTUTodo AGAIN === nn [~anonymous@pool-70-105-130-134.char.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] tritium: Up late? :-) [04:35] bddebian, yep. You too, eh? [04:35] this is late? [04:35] Always :-) [04:35] Well not yet [04:35] Hey there, crimsun :) [04:36] 'lo tritium, bddebian [04:36] Heya crimsun [04:37] What are you up to, guys/ [04:37] ? [04:37] Trying to figure out what to fail at next :-) [04:38] You? [04:38] Taking a break this evening. [04:38] I'm staring sadly at the pile of work that's keeping me indoors on a Saturday night. [04:39] Heh [04:39] that's no fun === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-182.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] So any thoughts as to what I should fsck up next? :-) [04:55] http://rlove.org/log/2005071601 [04:55] kick ass [04:55] bddebian, you're too hard on yourself [04:56] Well I wanna help out but feel like I'm floundering about [04:58] nah [05:01] yah === janm [~jm__@202.172.110.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] Do be do be doo [05:40] sing it, Sinatra [05:42] heh [05:43] Well if I can't hack, might as well sing :-) === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pagefault [Eric@69.158.163.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-7-23.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@pcp01103376pcs.aubrnh01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487E108.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:54] <\sh> morning === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb tests out seb128's gtk2.7 pkgs [09:42] not too shabby === \sh is w8ing for riddell :) [09:43] heh [09:44] <\sh> so he can kick arts, kde* and I can work further ;) [09:49] kick them? [09:50] just upload new revisions? [09:50] <\sh> upload [09:50] <\sh> new revs... [10:02] oh, i thought you meant kick something on the buildd [10:02] err, off [10:23] Lathiat_, ping [10:24] Lathiat_, can you cleanup and bring up to date https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend#preview [10:25] Burgundavia: its perfectly up to date? [10:25] Lathiat_, is it? [10:26] Burgundavia: yes [10:26] ok, cheers [10:26] it doesnt work for everyone [10:26] works for me [10:26] shrug === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] hi === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] \sh: hmm? [11:15] <\sh> riddell: xcursor stuff is done...arts is building nicely [11:16] I'm wondering if I need a versioned build-dep on xcursor from arts [11:17] <\sh> hmmm.... [11:17] <\sh> it's included from somewhere ele [11:17] <\sh> +s [11:18] yes, so I'm not sure [11:20] <\sh> give it a try, first without and if it's not working, then with versioned b-d [11:21] wonder who this is going to go? http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/59-Linux-Ball-Utnubu.html [11:21] hey people [11:22] \sh: it's work without for e.g. not for amd64 since xcursor isn't built for th [11:22] at yet [11:23] \sh: it's work without for e.g. not for amd64 since xcursor isn't built for that yet [11:23] oh boy, [11:23] <\sh> Riddell: I hope the buildd has a queue management === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] <\sh> Riddell: i mean if it compiles the sources in the order when they were uploaded [11:24] what's going on Riddell ? [11:24] rebuilding KDE [11:25] any expecific issues? [11:26] <\sh> riddell: btw...is it possible to provide only main upload rights for kde* stuff? [11:30] \sh: technically no but it's possible to ask for it, strictly speaking I only have main upload rights for k* [11:30] cat: libXrender.la was removed [11:31] ok, arts and kdelibs uploaded === Riddell goes [11:31] <\sh> hehe... [11:31] <\sh> I will take the blame :) i will tell anybody, I forced u to upload ,-) [11:38] lol [11:49] hey if i want to help out packaging what should i do? [11:49] any developers here? [11:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGettingIntoIt?highlight=%28CategoryMOTU%29 [11:51] alright [11:52] so if i want to make up a packaged? what do i do? [11:52] who do i give it to [11:52] ? [11:53] REVU [11:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [12:01] hey Burgundavia how can i put my key sing on a file for example [12:01] no idea [12:01] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- [12:01] Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) [12:01] iD8DBQFC1RHC/YHuPfZ5NNgRAsM8AKCAMundUAvFDmgjIiKZZWtDOpL+9gCgkybn [12:01] v0DCaKIOJSoG2TE+31qGJ7k= [12:01] =ZabX [12:01] -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [12:02] <\sh> --clearsign? [12:02] <\sh> or do u want to sign the CoC? [12:02] <\sh> there is launchpad for it :) [12:03] i want to sign up the package ircii-pana_1.1-1.dsc [12:03] <\sh> oh [12:04] <\sh> use debuild -S -k [12:04] <\sh> to sign a package with a different maintainer...or do dch -i and debuild -S [12:04] or just debsign [12:05] <\sh> or this [12:05] <\sh> Mithrandir: btw...I need to provide a new ssh key for ravel...the old one was destroyed *damn* and I forgot to backup it [12:06] \sh: just send it to me in a signed mail. [12:06] note that I'll be travelling tomorrow and my network is a bit flaky, so I might not get to it immediately, but I'll try. [12:06] <\sh> Mithrandir: will do...I will wait but for the next xorg update ,-) can be that I have to reinstall everything again here [12:07] <\sh> Mithrandir: it's not so important right now..amd64 is still broken ,-) [12:08] \sh: put your ssh key on a USB stick or something? [12:08] <\sh> Mithrandir: well yes :) my gpg is on it...but I created the key after that...and forgot it all the time [12:08] is not working [12:20] what i'd love is some kind of small bluetooth device with storage [12:20] to store things like keys on [12:20] obivously not using bluetooth security [12:21] something like the new thinkpad tpm [12:21] is there anything like bluetooth storage device in the bluetooth profiles? [12:22] could it be that rosetta is down? [12:23] mitsuhiko, rosetta is having issues, from what I understand [12:23] Burgundavia: hm. not good === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [~jm__@202.172.110.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] hi [01:11] does anyone know howto get an UniverseCandidate into Universe? [01:12] if youre a MOTU, you build a package, upload it to revu and after 3 people have reviewed it, it gets included [01:13] if youre not a MOTU you need to find one who helps you ;) [01:13] he doesnt have to be a motu to upload to revu? [01:13] or become one [01:13] tseng, but its very helpful to be one ;) [01:13] it is. [01:14] ummm, let's see [01:14] <\sh> recruite recruite [01:14] <\sh> good morning ogra *lol* [01:14] what can i exactly do (im not a motu, obviusly) [01:14] infinito, i know :) [01:14] infinito, you can prepare a package and work with the MOTUs.... [01:15] the package is already done (with done ubuntu and debian pkg), and it's already on debian sid [01:16] any motu want to help me to get GCfilms into ubuntu? [01:16] infinito, if its already in sid, we dont need a ubuntu package, we can ust ask for a sync of the debian package [01:17] yes, it's on debian [01:17] great.... so as soon as elmo is back we can ask him to syn it... [01:17] (elmo is the master of our servers) [01:17] oooohhhh great! [01:18] ogra: eh, dont we need kamion now [01:18] when will be that? (im an anxiuos guy) [01:18] ;) [01:18] he is at debconf [01:18] and doesnt work weekends anyway [01:18] tseng, yes, for a review, but universe will be handled very loosely [01:19] ogra: ok. [01:19] i want to sync boo to universe also [01:19] tseng, ok [01:20] i tought universe depended on more people, curious [01:20] <\sh> ogra is heman..dholbach is beastman [01:20] heh [01:20] <\sh> and we're castle greyskull [01:21] hehehe :D [01:21] <\sh> and elmo is god ;-) [01:21] <\sh> and daniels is god2 ,-) [01:21] uh [01:22] <\sh> I forgot..sry...tseng is monoman [01:22] i mean, daniels [01:22] comeon [01:22] <\sh> well..he is bored...he throws xorg packages from heaven and everything burns..he must be god2 [01:23] <\sh> and next time I will receive xorg source by mail *lol* [01:23] yes, daniels is abusing his power wildly currently :) [01:25] <\sh> randomly is better [01:25] <\sh> well..at 5 sherif will come and try out my new washing machine ;) [01:27] universe is about 20 people handling about 20,000 packages [01:27] :0 [01:27] if you have time, please help :) [01:27] <\sh> 20k packages? [01:27] not really [01:27] well, it's probably close [01:28] call it a rounding error === \sh needs to have an appointment to clone himself [01:32] Amaranth, hey, we're close to 30 already === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] finally [02:10] http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/59-Linux-Ball-Utnubu.html [02:17] ha ha ha [02:18] (the name) [02:19] <\sh> ogra: read it :( [02:19] \sh, yes, isnt it great ? [02:20] will save us a lot of work, no RFPs, no ITPs etc [02:20] great [02:20] <\sh> yeah [02:21] (but the name is stupid) [02:21] i love the name [02:21] <\sh> ok..kdelibs for i386 is there [02:21] that's nice [02:21] <\sh> update now..it's hot hot hot [02:21] bah [02:21] <\sh> ppc as well [02:22] bah++ [02:22] WHERE IS AMD64 ! [02:22] :) [02:23] hm [02:23] that is a nice project [02:23] <\sh> ogra: kick them from .fi to their workplace *lol* [02:23] tseng, your way into debian ? [02:23] ogra: how do you mean? [02:23] \sh, it ends tomorrow.... and i'm sad i decided not to go [02:24] tseng, they want support ubuntu devs to become DDs [02:24] <\sh> ogra: sometimes we don't have any choice.. [02:24] yep :/ [02:24] ogra: hm [02:24] ogra: "they" in this context seemed to include Mark [02:24] ogra: it seems very time consuming [02:24] meebey still hasnt finished NM [02:25] Mithrandir, i know he wants us to be DDs :) [02:27] #utnubu is empty [02:27] ogra: you should have been here. It's been a huge blast and loads and loads of fun [02:27] Mithrandir, i know... alone for the mdz/hanna session it would have been worth it [02:28] Mithrandir, but i'll go to mexico next time :) [02:28] ogra: excellent [02:28] Mithrandir: get well karianne :( [02:28] did they say where in mexico? === herzi [~herzi@c197212.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] tseng: she's home and fine now [02:29] tseng: Mexico City, I think [02:29] hm === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@i528C303F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] Wake up people! :-) === blueyed [~daniel@i528C303F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@i528C303F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] hello [03:39] Heya herve [03:50] holy crap wow [03:50] http://more-cowbell.org/ < this came out a week or 2 ago, but i just now built it [03:50] its brilliant [03:53] yeh === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] whiprush: dude, ruffle isnt crashing nearly as much here now === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] whiprush: oh, and i made a blog just for you [04:31] tseng: where's your blog? [04:31] you can read on planet.ubuntu.com [04:31] ah, cool [04:31] but tseng.ath.cx/log [04:32] cowbell looks sweet! [04:32] hell yeah [04:32] i might work on a deb later for breezy [04:33] excellent [04:33] oh check the battery applet === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] is X (including headers) in breezy working again? [04:44] it's working for me, but xbase-clients is still held back and a few people here have had problems with -42 [04:45] I lost the use of the shift key and accents [04:46] me the multi_key [04:47] yeah, anything exotic in a word :-) [04:55] important question: is aptitude silly? aptitude upgrade and all my localisation packages where gone to /dev/null === sturmkind [~Sascha@84.235.213.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] hello === chris` [~chris@ACB50292.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] hrm X IS broken :/ in almost every package needing X it complains about missing headers while compiling... [05:06] slomo: the headers moved, and the packages need tobe updated. [05:07] yes i already noticed that... but for example X11/Intrinsic.h is missing from libxt-dev [05:10] /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h [05:11] That's in libxt-dev 6.8.2-42 [05:11] Do you have -I/usr/X11R6/include on your gcc command line? [05:13] nope... but it was also in /usr/lib/X11 before ;) in which directory does it really belong? === jbailey shrugs [05:13] I try not to ask these questions. [05:14] The X maintainer might eat me in my sleep. ;) [05:16] hehe... so what do you suggest? simply adding -I/usr/X11R6/include or asking him with the possibility of dying? ;) [05:16] Adding the -I means that you can ignore the problem for now and get on with your life. But you also might have to go back to it. [05:17] ISTR that Daniel's off at desktop con, so I don't expect you'll see him online much. [05:19] well it shouldn't hurt in the future when both /usr/X11R6/include and /usr/include/X11 are in the include path ;) === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-3646.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089DE72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c197212.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chris_ [~chris@ACB50292.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-051.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] is revu dead ? or it is holidays effect :] === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-7-23.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoron [petri@dsl-hkigw8pb5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] bye ! === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] tseng: will you make a cowbell package? otherwise i'll do one later ;) really nice, this app [09:28] i can do it [09:28] but you can too [09:28] if you want it its all yours. [09:28] i have alot of stuff [09:30] ok, then i'll make one... thanks :) [09:30] thanks [09:30] ping me when done === bddebian has nothing.. :'-( [09:30] :-) [09:31] bddebian, grab something then... there lies enough mess around [09:31] :) [09:31] bddebian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps [09:31] bddebian: enough to do there ;) [09:31] ogra: I try but apparently I keep grabbing "the wrong stuff" [09:31] slomo: I started there too. For example, zorp. It need upgraded from upstream [09:31] slomo: you should join the ubuntu/debian mono team [09:31] slomo: didnt you do another mono package? [09:32] yes, nermele [09:32] nermerle [09:32] tseng: nemerle... yes, but currently one of the nemerle guys tries to get his own package into debian ;) [09:33] with your fixes? [09:33] tseng: no... seems like he doesn't like my fixes :/ currently his package doesn't conform to the policy [09:33] uh [09:33] thoreauputic: Is that like a Psychoanalyst son of Odin? :-) [09:34] if he doesnt conform to policy [09:34] he is going to fix it or go away, basically [09:34] bddebian: heh - think Thoreau and Civil Disobedience ;) [09:34] Ahhh :-) [09:35] slomo: you cant put a package in debian that is against policy. [09:35] yes he tries to conform to them but i really don't know why he hasn't applied my changes as they made the package to conform... i think when nothing happens until next monday i'll do the package ;) [09:35] yes i know === bddebian throws a dart at UniverseUnmetDeps [09:38] tseng: but he had a valid question: why must a cli package depend on mcs? for example nemerle doesn't need an c# compiler === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2v1-119.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] slomo: hm its already built? [09:39] I saw that a new version of openafs-client (for kernel 2.6) finally entered Debian unstable. Is that likely to be included in Breezy? [09:39] tseng: it contains a already built nemerle compiler which then bootstraps a new one (the nemerle compiler is written in nemerle ;) ) [09:40] oh [09:40] clever [09:40] well if its really not C# to be built, then it doesnt need mcs [09:40] virtually everything we package is [09:43] maybe that's worth an exception in the policy? [09:43] you should really bring this kind of stuff up on #debian-mono btw [09:43] im not the lone authority on policy [09:44] http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ [09:44] OK, I am going to ask this again. If we don't have a package (libgmp3 in this case) but Debian does, how do you folks typically pull the debian packages? [09:44] ^ its a duopoly :) [09:44] bddebian: you get convince someone like ogra to take care of it for you [09:45] it requires freeze approval at this point [09:45] Egads, is there anything I can actually do myself around here? :-) [09:45] ogra@honk:~/xss-1.1 $ apt-cache search libgmp3 [09:45] libgmp3 - Multiprecision arithmetic library [09:45] hmm [09:45] ogra: On Breezy? I can't apt-get source?? [09:46] And openswan fails on dependency on libgmp3 [09:46] Hmm, I get back libgmp3c2 [09:47] same here [09:47] bddebian, yes, thats right [09:47] bddebian, libgmp3 is the old libstdc++5 version [09:48] you certainly want gmp3c2 [09:48] Ah, so openswan needs fixed to depend libgmp3c2 [09:48] ? [09:48] nope === bddebian is hopeless [09:48] ost likely just a rebuild.... guessing it depends on libgmp3-dev === chris_ [~chris@ACB50292.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] [09:48] or helpless [09:48] s/ost/most === bddebian attempts a rebuild [09:51] ogra, regarding gcl... [09:52] I've been writing the developer, because current version doesn't build [09:52] he's gonna release 2.6.7, should I try to package that, or wait for debian's ? [09:52] Hmm, why doesn't openswan have a ubuntuX version? [09:53] bddebian: noone touched it? :-) [09:53] If I just rebuild it would I need a new version number? [09:53] Xbuild1 [09:54] huh? [09:54] 2.2.0-11build1? [09:54] X = debian version [09:54] sure [09:54] Whacky [09:54] not really [09:54] comadreja, any ETA for it ntering debian ? [09:55] nopes, I'll write the maintainer [09:55] great.. [09:56] oh, the maintainer is the developer :) so I'll ask him directly [09:57] tseng: when a cli package uses some native libraries via [DllImport ...] which package has to be added to the depends? -dev or the normal package? [09:57] the normal package [09:58] if it does dllimport foo.so [09:58] and it doesnt already have a dllmap to foo.so.0 [09:58] you need to make one [09:58] this is in the policy [10:00] Nice, openswan FTBFSs [10:01] tseng: ok, is it the same for .exe and .dll? just create the file and put it next to the .exe? [10:01] yes [10:02] foo.exe.config [10:05] gai looks cute (or rather, the build failure does) [10:06] invalid lvalue in assignment sounds like a gcc-4.x issue right?? [10:06] yes [10:06] though, it has never been valid C [10:07] don't cast lvalues you are assigning to [10:07] It isn't my code :-) [10:07] heh [10:10] Anyone have the patience to explain to my dumb ass, what that exactly means? :-) [10:11] bddebian: http://www.cs.ust.hk/~keithlau/Pilot/doc/gcc/gcc_63.html [10:11] Mithrandir: Thx [10:13] heh casting lvalues [10:13] that's the usual cause === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-75-55.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] So why would "MALLOC(sizeof(struct sadb_sa)))) faile? [10:19] -e [10:22] what does it expand to? [10:24] Uhm, dunno [10:24] gcc -E is your friend. [10:24] where is the MALLOC macro defined? [10:25] Same code: define MALLOC(size) kmalloc(size, GFP_ATOMIC) [10:25] you're trying to compile kernel code with gcc4? [10:26] Shouldn't be, it's openswan [10:26] openswan has kernel modules [10:26] Ohh, it has a kernel patch [10:26] fuXX0r [10:26] kmalloc is kernel stuff [10:26] GFP_ATOMIC even more so === bddebian just goes back to Windows where it's "safe" ;-P [10:27] it's neither safe to compile kernel code with gcc-4.0 on windows :) === Mithrandir hits bddebian over the head with a 2-by-4. [10:27] :P [10:28] comadreja: Well I seem to keep getting in over my head soo.. :-) === comadreja thinks windows is evil [10:28] comadreja++ :-) === bddebian breaks 2x4 with steel plate in his head === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] Heya tritium, welcome to #barry-is-an-idiot :-) [10:33] bddebian, hi there. Why do you say that? [10:33] Uhm because it's true? :-) [10:34] oh, nonsense [10:34] bddebian, just build it with gcc-3.4 :) [10:34] it makes me sad that you're always down on yourself bddebian [10:34] bddebian, look at the control and rules file of ffmpeg if you want a tamplate [10:35] template even [10:35] ogra: For? [10:35] tritium: Sorry man ignore me, I have esteem issues (in case you couldn't tell :-) ) [10:35] bddebian, making it build with gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0 [10:35] ogra: Ahh [10:41] tseng: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=150 [10:42] doesnt it need libtag1c? [10:42] or whatever it was [10:43] sure but the binary dependency is pulled in by dh_clideps [10:43] hm you dont even build-dep on gtk-sharp [10:43] no im not talking about binary [10:43] you need to fill out every build-dep [10:43] or it will fail in chroot [10:43] use pbuilder to test (PbuilderHowto on wiki) [10:44] oh, i've really forgotten gtk# :/ sorry... but the libtag1-dev dependency is in Build-Depends-Indep (and it has to be the -dev package as configure tries to call taglib-config which is in the -dev package) [10:45]