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amortal_mistakelindsey: np, you have to be root or use sudo to use it, btw12:01
amortal_mistakelindsey: so a normal user account would type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"12:01
robotgee3any package for preventing/detecting dropped wireless connections?12:01
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aceidiadoes anyone know how to enable the -jit in wine?12:03
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lindseyamortal: I'm working on it. :)12:04
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aceidiacan anyone help me?12:05
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benplautdarn12:06
benplautbird stuck in the house12:06
aceidiathat sucks\12:06
TokenBadnow why will az not let me save to mounted drive when I can download from www to mounted drive12:06
benplautcathederal celing with windows at the top. te bird keeps trying to go out of those12:07
benplautand they have glass and screens12:07
remyforbes777   hey guys this is not a linux question just a general hardware question12:07
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remyforbes777I have 256 MB in an abit mobo12:08
remyforbes777i add another 256 and it doesnt show up12:08
lindseyamortal it generated them so I am hoping everything will work right12:08
remyforbes777ahh forget it12:08
remyforbes777lol12:08
kbrooks?12:08
aceidiadoe anyone know anything about wine in here?12:08
kbrooksremyforbes777, what?12:08
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HappyFoolaceidia: try #winehq12:08
aceidiathankx12:09
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/635 <---anyone wanna help me with this one?12:09
knowledge_i"m officially stumpped12:09
ozan_smirnoffofficially?12:10
BelutzHappyFool: how do i play a file from samba directory?12:10
HappyFoolBelutz: should work as for other files12:11
knowledge_yeap12:11
remyforbes777kbrooks: i got it working12:11
knowledge_officially12:11
HappyFoolknowledge_: you're missing some critical include files (e.g., 'string.h')12:11
HappyFoolknowledge_: try aptitude install build-essential12:11
ozan_smirnoffknowledge_: install build-essential package. than come back12:11
remyforbes777my RAM wasnt showing up so i just switched banks , put the new ram in the first bank and put the existing Ram in a different bank and it showed up12:11
BelutzHappyFool: but i cannot browse the samba directory from mplayer ?12:11
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ashaakhi12:11
ashaaki have a question12:12
HappyFoolBelutz: hmm12:12
HappyFoolBelutz: try using nautilus to get there first, then right-click -> open with mplayer ?12:12
knowledge_that's done12:12
HappyFoolknowledge_: those include files are part of libc6-dev -- maybe it got lost when before12:12
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HappyFoolknowledge_: err, when you had your libc issue, that is12:13
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HappyFooli need sleep12:13
TokenBadanyone know how to get AZ to let me download to my mounted drive12:13
BelutzHappyFool: the mplayer is started, but don't play it (right click -> open with mplayer)12:13
lindseyAmortal: I still need help please.12:13
knowledge_HappyFool, I see, thanks I think it's doign it right now12:13
knowledge_it just went ape shhh....12:13
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HappyFoolBelutz: you can try mount it using mount -t smbfs or -t cifs -- sorry, i really need to go to bed12:14
HappyFoolBelutz: ask someone else for more details, or look on the wiki12:14
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DaZjorzhelloooo :)12:15
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knowledge_things keep scrolling on the screen now....don't have a clue as to what's going on....I just wanna come back and see that I screwed yet another thing up12:15
lindseyOkay I am still working on localization. I generated the locales and now need something called lang ru_RU12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know if theres an astronomical clock app for ubuntu?12:15
DaZjorzChurch of foamy: for what ?12:16
DaZjorzknowledge: whats the problem12:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdon't you know what an astronomical clock is? it can only be used for one purpose12:16
DaZjorzlindsey: try apt-get install ru_RU12:16
ozan_smirnoffDaZjorz: he needed some dev packages, seems solved12:16
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DaZjorzk12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand thats astronomy12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^12:17
DaZjorzchurch: erm.. xP tell me12:17
KyralDIE!12:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol12:17
warnkI am trying to fix the display on my laptop, it has i915 graphics, but I can't seem to get X to use the drivers.  Anyone able to help?12:17
lindseyDaz: COuldn't find it.12:17
KyralWow, I have quite a reflex to the name Bill Gates12:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat the hell is bill gates doin in a linux chat room O_o12:17
robotgee3i think Billy boy likes ubuntu!12:18
ozan_smirnoffChurcH_of_FoamY: be nice to little boys :)12:18
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lindseyDaZjorz, I am going to reset for full file name.12:19
no_gatez_fanmaybe he figured it out12:19
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eruinGnobody free software sex goes something like this: mount /dev/mounter /media/bush ; fsck ; unzip thestuff.zip ; fsck ; umount /media/bush ; slocate pants12:19
eruinand I had JUST gotten over "mount"...12:19
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DaZjorzOzan: Talk for yourself.12:22
TokenBadanyone know why azureus will not let me download a file to my mounted drive when I can download from website to mounted drive?12:22
DaZjorzerm12:23
DaZjorzwhat error does it give12:23
BillGates:)12:23
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BillGatesmicrosoft is going open source12:23
DaZjorzBillGates: Please, PLEASE change your name into Anti-BillGates12:23
BillGatesyou heard it now12:23
DaZjorzbecause12:23
DaZjorzLinux is like a tent. No windows, No gates, No bills and a lot of bugs12:23
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lindseyFor everyone concerned it works. Thanks for all your help everybody. :)12:23
BillGateseveryone LOVES bill gates12:23
robotgee2BillGates is a troll!12:24
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BillGateslol12:24
DaZjorzGood Lindsey :)12:24
BillGateswhy ty sir12:24
DaZjorzI want admin powers12:24
DaZjorzthen i can kick him xP12:24
BillGatesi dont even like windows....12:24
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BillGateswow all this hate from a name12:24
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DaZjorzLOL12:25
Bolsahah12:25
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DaZjorzi just wanted to type /me Kicking failed.12:25
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DaZjorz^^12:25
robotgee_lol12:25
DaZjorz;-D haha12:25
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DaZjorzNOOOOO12:25
DaZjorzMICROSOFT12:25
Microsoftt:)12:26
DaZjorzKEEP YOUR BLOODY HANDS OFF LINUX12:26
Microsofttno could get microsoft...12:26
DaZjorz;-D12:26
robotgee_the death star arrives12:26
DaZjorz;-(12:26
BurgundaviaDaZjorz, please keep if on topic and please stop spamming12:26
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Microsofttall your base belongs to me!!12:26
TokenBadoperation not permitted. setlength fails12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i always wanted to kill bill gates so umm.....12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere do you live?12:26
DaZjorzthe death star was already here..... and now he's firing :'(12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYmuhahahahahaha12:26
DaZjorzsorry, i'll be on topic12:26
DaZjorzsorry Burgundavia12:27
robotgee_is it possible to ban specific nicks :)12:27
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DaZjorzIf you own the server12:27
BurgundaviaDaZjorz, np12:27
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TokenBadDaZjorz, operation not permitted. setlength fails12:27
damcann anyone recommend some good fax software for ubuntu? external modem. tested and worked on knoppix12:27
DaZjorz...I'm gonna host an IRC server ;-D12:27
TokenBadthats the error it gives12:27
DaZjorzDam: Let me search on google...12:27
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zenlunaticare there any free software mp3 players for windows?12:27
DaZjorzDam: It seems there is some "Linux Fax Server"12:27
DaZjorzDam: I think you want a client...12:28
damDaZjorz, i'd rather a personal opinion from a person, not a google12:28
ompauldam, what software did you use on knoppix? it most likely is available for Knoppix?12:28
robotgee_zenlunatic: u mean like winamp?12:28
ompauls/Knoppix/Ubuntu12:28
DaZjorzZenlunatic: Why are you asking this in a Linux channel?12:28
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damdial-cfg or something12:28
DaZjorzDam: I don't know fax programs, but I want to help, so I search google for a good one12:28
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DaZjorzGoogle is almighty12:28
zenlunaticDaZjorz, my windows using friend needs a mp3 program and i cannot recommed a non-free software12:29
DaZjorzAh12:29
DaZjorzright12:29
DaZjorzlol12:29
damDaZjorz, OK,12:29
DaZjorz;-D12:29
zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you know what free sfotware is12:29
DaZjorzI like to use 'open-source' and not 'free'12:29
damzenlunatic, cooplayer is free for winX12:29
DaZjorzfree sounds like "i say its no cost, but after all you gotta pay though"12:29
robotgee_zenlunatic: free as in beer!12:29
DaZjorz;-D12:29
FatPenguinconvert the poor bastard zenlunatic12:30
DaZjorz;-D12:30
DaZjorzlool12:30
ompauldam,  efax-gtk might be up your street12:30
robotgee_lol12:30
DaZjorzZenlunatic: I think you should take some MP3 converter thats shareware12:30
DaZjorzand that can also play MP3's12:30
DaZjorzl-D12:30
DaZjorz;-D12:30
ompaulzenlunatic, you really should try Ubuntu it can do so much for you that you will not want to turn that thing you use now12:31
zenlunaticfree as in freedom!12:31
DaZjorzNvm. I'm really thinking to delete Windows from my own computer.12:31
zenlunaticompaul, im on ubuntu12:31
DaZjorzThough then I can't play games anymore.12:31
DaZjorzNot much, i mean12:31
zenlunaticomaru, i was refering to my friend12:31
FatPenguinyou know beer isnt free....12:31
DaZjorzlike San Andreas12:31
robotgee_does everyone know of the Free as in Speech Beer?12:31
DaZjorzthats the good thing on Windows12:31
DaZjorzgames like GTA: San Andreas12:31
lsuactiafnerDaZjorz : i havent had windows in years, tho using windows to convert ppt to jpg is usefull..12:31
zenlunaticomaru, i haven't used windows on computers i own for years12:31
aruDaZjorz: get an xbox for that12:31
DaZjorzi'd rather use Windows then pay 200 euros :\12:32
lsuactiafnerbut other than that there is no use in windows12:32
robotgee_http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=7012:32
highvoltagei'd rather pay 10 000 euros than to use windows12:32
lsuactiafner200 for what?12:32
zenlunaticlsuactiafner, the issue shouldn't be about use. it should be about freedom!12:32
highvoltage(not that i have 10 000 euros)12:32
DaZjorzHighvoltage12:32
DaZjorzif you pay me 500 euros12:32
DaZjorzthen I will buy an X-box and remove Windows from my computer forever12:33
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lsuactiafnerif you pay me 100 euro i would use windows for a week12:33
DaZjorzLOL12:33
ompaulFatPenguin, I have a recipe for beer http://www.valdyas.org/andal/peoples_and_places/food/kvass.html12:33
mikeehello ppl12:33
lsuactiafnerheh i need money12:33
DaZjorzhello Mikee12:33
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ompaulFatPenguin, and the souce for Linux :)12:33
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mikeecan anyone help a tottaly noob ?12:33
poningrumikee: whats up?12:33
DaZjorzwe're currently doing a discussion about how much money everyone wants to (not) use Windows for a while12:33
mikeei rather that then return to windowz :((12:33
zenlunaticmikee, im sorry no one can help you12:33
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DaZjorzOfcourse, Mikee12:33
DaZjorzWhats the problem ?12:34
DaZjorzZenlunatic: Talk for yourself xP12:34
zenlunaticrobotgee_, ibook here12:34
mikeeok i'm trying to inst valknut12:34
NuffSeddoes anyone know of a GUI-version of deborphan? or is there a way to make synaptic uninstall dependencies that are not in use anymore?12:34
DaZjorzValknut...12:34
mikeebig pbs with .rpm's12:34
mikee:((12:34
zenlunaticDaZjorz, its a stupid question12:34
zenlunaticDaZjorz, any human being is capable of helping there neighbor12:34
DaZjorzZenlunatic: There are no stupid questions12:34
robotgee_zenlunatic: powerbook12:34
DaZjorzonly questions that are easy to answer12:34
DaZjorzxP12:34
DaZjorzMikee: Whats the problem with the RPM ?12:35
FatPenguinompaul,  I see. never understood that "free as beer" thing.12:35
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mikeeerror: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)12:35
mikeeerror: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm12:35
DaZjorzDoes it give an error?12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_, cool do you know the code to get the mouse button emulation to work?12:35
DaZjorzErmm Mikee12:35
DaZjorzdoes this work12:35
jcarrhey... what is the default root password for a new ubuntu install? It never prompted me to enter one during install :(12:35
DaZjorzapt-get install valknut12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_, not echo /proc code but xmodmap12:35
jcarrI need to log in as root12:35
mikeei'll try now12:35
TokenBadDaZjorz, I found out why azureus wouldn't let me save to mounted drive12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_,  im trying to get the same effect on BSD12:35
arujcarr: ubuntu doesn't use root, use sudo12:35
DaZjorzAnd ?12:35
ompaulFatPenguin, you might say it is freedom to do the business12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_,  but i don't know the code12:36
poningruDaZjorz: its not in the universe12:36
DaZjorzMikee are you logged in as Root ?12:36
jcarraru, I need to do alot of stuff though12:36
poningruor multiverse12:36
robotgee_zenlunatic: mouse emulation??12:36
TokenBadI had to turn on incremental file creation12:36
aruthen go to applications > System tools > root terminal12:36
TokenBadin azureus12:36
zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you have external mouse on your powerbook?12:36
mikee apt-get install valknut12:36
ompauljcarr, sudo -s will give you a root prompt if you really need one12:36
jcarrhow can DaZjorz ask mikee if he is logged in as root if Ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root?12:36
DaZjorzAru: Ubuntu uses su to become root, but there is a root for sure12:36
TokenBadfor it to save to a fat32 drive12:36
mikeeyes i'm root allright12:36
robotgee_zenlunatic: yeah...and also keyboard12:36
DaZjorzTokenBad: Ah right :)12:36
mikeeE: Couldn't find package valknut12:37
DaZjorzjcarr: There is always a command like su :/12:37
TokenBadthanks for help though12:37
DaZjorzMikee: RPM error about the package ?12:37
zenlunaticrobotgee_, oh well i guess you don't know then. i dond't use external mouse i use f11 and f12 for second and third mouse clicks, respectively12:37
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tfort gahhhhhhhh, once again, WoW freezes on install] 12:37
robotgee_zenlunatic: i do that too12:37
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DaZjorzMikee: I'll try to see if I have the same problem. Please wait a sec. I'll start the Live CD in VMWare.12:37
jcarrDaZjorz, I tried to su to root12:37
DaZjorzjcarr And ?12:37
jcarrit prompts me for a password12:37
DaZjorzOfcourse it does12:37
jcarrwhich is always rejected12:38
DaZjorzermm12:38
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zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you know the code to enable it? i know its automatic in hoary but i need to know the code12:38
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jcarrthe install never let me enter a root pasword!12:38
ompaulmikee, you should try the debian one it is nearest ubuntu if you are really going to do that12:38
robotgee_zenlunatic: one sec...12:38
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ompauljcarr, the password is the password for jcarr12:38
DaZjorzLOL12:38
zenlunaticrobotgee_, sure msg me when you get back so we can stop flooding the channel12:38
DaZjorzjcarr, only 'expert' installations have that question12:38
jcarromaru, I tried that... didn't work... but does if I use sudo :(12:38
jcarrah well12:38
DaZjorzits really a bad idea12:38
robotgee_zenlunatic: okie :)12:38
DaZjorzthey should always include the question in the normal installation12:39
mikeewell..if i'm 2 stupid for that please give me an alternativ for a dc sharing application12:39
mikeepls12:39
linuksojcarr: if you want to change the root password you must run "sudo passwd root"12:39
DaZjorzMikee: What RPM did you download actually ?12:39
knowledge_heyy guys....how long should 'sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source' take to complete?12:40
chaps0063hi, I'm trying to setup partitions.  I currently have NTFS, when I create /boot, swaparea, /, I cannot create /home, the rest of the space is tagged as unusable?12:40
mikeethere were 2 on the srver12:40
mikeesome libs12:40
mikeeand the valknut rpm12:40
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DaZjorzerm Mikee12:40
DaZjorzwhen you go to the Stable download...12:40
DaZjorzit asks you for the OS12:40
DaZjorzwhat did you fill in12:40
mikeedebian12:40
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mikeeright?12:40
DaZjorzYup.12:40
DaZjorzerm12:40
DaZjorzlet me test ...12:40
knowledge_anyone know?12:40
DaZjorzbooting the live cd...12:40
Virtuall[v16] ...i don't get it. what do i have to do to start translating? Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Danko Alexeyev12:40
linuksomikee: try "sudo aptitude install dcgui"12:41
ompaulmikee why did not you not do the debian one, a close relative of ubuntu, not an rpm which is completely alien to the structure of Ubuntu (excuse the pun those of you who got it)12:41
poningruknowledge_: a freaking long time12:41
DaZjorzErm;...12:41
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poningrudepending on your computer speed12:41
knowledge_seems like it12:41
knowledge_wow...1.6 P412:41
DaZjorzompaul He chose debian12:41
poningruheh thats not so fast12:41
knowledge_am I recompiling the kernel?12:41
ompaulDaZjorz, eariler he said rpm12:41
mikeeit's going smooth so far12:41
poningrunot really12:41
linuksomikee: dcgui is available through apt12:41
mikeeok all done12:41
knowledge_oh....I wanted to do it for i68612:41
DaZjorzOK...12:42
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poningruknowledge_: you can just use a precompiled package12:42
poningrufrom synaptic12:42
poningrufor P412:42
DaZjorz Well I don't know much programs for Linux actually. Only the programs I use myself, thats mainly server programs.12:42
poningruwhat program are you looking for>12:42
poningru?12:42
DaZjorzThough I am gonna install Linux on my own computer.12:42
knowledge_yeah, but I need that patch in there for my alps glidepoint12:42
DaZjorzbut though12:42
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DaZjorzthe only thing that keeps me from installing Linux on my own pc12:42
tfortim getting so frustrated with ubuntu now with cedega that i might just frag this install and go back to gentoo12:43
DaZjorzis games like GTA: San Andreas....12:43
DaZjorzWhats the problem tfort12:43
aruget an xbox12:43
raven3x7dcgui-qt=valknut12:43
DaZjorzAru: I already said, too expensive12:43
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DaZjorzTfort12:43
tfortDaZjorz, WoW install keeps freezing during install in Cedega 4.412:43
knowledge_I like Ubuntu....then again my only other distro i used was mandrake12:43
ompaulif you want to know what stuff is installed you might consider 'apt-cache show ubuntu-base' and 'apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop' to see what is in a base system12:43
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DaZjorzErrm12:43
aruthats right, you did talk about that once before...12:43
knowledge_which (Imo) blows12:43
tfortworked fine on gentoo when isinstalled it, but now i can never get it to install12:44
DaZjorzcheck your logs in /var/log/12:44
DaZjorzdoes it give any errors ?12:44
DaZjorzAlso, are things like graphical engines on ?12:44
DaZjorzetc.12:44
DaZjorz3D support ?12:44
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DaZjorzI repeat, i didnt do much with home-based linux...12:44
DaZjorzonly server-based. But i'm gonna change that12:44
tfortDaZjorz, which log errors would i be looking for12:44
mikeeNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.12:45
mikee :((((12:45
DaZjorzAnything12:45
DaZjorzany error12:45
tforti dont see any cedega and i dont see any point2play12:45
arucould you please use sentences?12:45
mikeeis occured durring sudo aptitude install dcgui12:45
tfortthere's syslog and base-config but that's about it12:45
DaZjorzyou can paste errors in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:45
DaZjorzSorry, Aru.12:45
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AlbanianLordcedega12:45
AlbanianLord?12:46
AlbanianLordlol12:46
DaZjorzBut every time after typing something, something else pops into my mind to type.12:46
tfortAlbanianLord, yes, what?12:46
AlbanianLordi always used wine12:46
DaZjorztfort,.. Do other 3D games work ?12:46
AlbanianLordand it worked12:46
tfortDaZjorz12:46
tforthaven't tried12:46
tfortjust installed 2 days ago12:46
tfortAlbanianLord, for WoW?12:46
DaZjorzYou should, actually...12:46
DaZjorzthen you know if the problem is there12:46
DaZjorzAlbianLord12:46
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DaZjorzWINE doesn't support 3d / directx things, does it12:47
AlbanianLordno12:47
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DaZjorzi surely can't run GTA: San Andreas in a window on linux :'(12:47
tfortno, it doesn't that's why you use cedega12:47
tfortfor d3d emu12:47
AlbanianLordbut i can make it work12:47
DaZjorzCedega.12:47
DaZjorzGoogle is almighty ^^12:47
AlbanianLorddid you install cedega off a debian package or from source12:47
AlbanianLord?12:47
robotgee_zenlunatic: i've pm'd u!12:47
DaZjorzCedega...oo this might just be the reason for me to install Linux..12:48
DaZjorzany bad experiences with Cedega here ?12:48
imaekFor some reason, neither K3b nor GnomeBaker will sense that there is a blank CD in my CD drive, but I can read data disks, play DVDs, and listen to music through it12:48
tfortDaZjorz, mine, hehe12:48
DaZjorzWtf12:49
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DaZjorzcedega costs money, ?12:49
knowledge_Ubuntu can be used for web server right?12:49
graabeinwhat you got, baby i want it12:49
tfort$5 a month12:49
DaZjorzjeez12:49
DaZjorzonly for a porter..12:49
poningruDaZjorz: you do know there is Wine?12:49
DaZjorzNvm. I'll stick with Windows then.12:49
DaZjorzI know, Poningru12:49
tfortponingru, it doesn't do d3d12:49
DaZjorzbut it doesn't support DirectX nor any 3D things12:49
poningruDaZjorz: why not do a dual boot?12:49
poningruthats what I do12:50
DaZjorzI can,.. but then, after a while, i can't stop myself from booting Windows every time :\12:50
poningrudual boot for games12:50
tfortponingru, because that's completely contrary tot he whole point of me wanting a linux system12:50
poningruwhats the point?12:50
poningrufunctionality right?12:50
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ompaulknowledge_, yes12:50
DaZjorznot only that12:50
DaZjorzthe point is12:50
poningruyou use the products that are best suited to that function12:50
DaZjorzthat Linux is a great OS12:50
DaZjorzits faster etc.12:50
tforti like an automated system that i dont have to reboot, it can stay up all the time, and at the same time, runs very effeciently and smoothly12:51
DaZjorznot only that12:51
tfortwindows does not12:51
DaZjorzExactly12:51
DaZjorzTfort (Y)12:51
tfortand with linux, you get much better performance on WoW and other d3d games12:51
airmikeywhats the command to open my file browser with the location bar12:51
DaZjorzerm Airmikey12:51
DaZjorzwhat file browser ?12:51
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gobbolinohi12:52
DaZjorzNormally its just the first argument12:52
DaZjorzHi gobbolino12:52
gobbolinoi ahve a small problem12:52
gobbolinohave12:52
poningruso the reason you dont wanna dual boot is?12:52
DaZjorzOK12:52
DaZjorzI would like to dual boot12:52
gobbolinoi have a notebook widescreen12:52
DaZjorzand i'm gonna set it up once i get back from vacation12:53
DaZjorzYes ?12:53
ompaulairmikey, Places -> Home Folder12:53
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DaZjorz^^12:53
DaZjorzI'm really thinking of dual booting Windows / Linux12:53
DaZjorzbut i'm afraid i'm gonna start Windows every time ...12:53
DaZjorzbecause i can't fast-switch between windows and linux12:54
DaZjorzit takes a restart12:54
DaZjorzwhich is another 2 minutes12:54
poningruDaZjorz: you can hibernate12:54
poningruboth12:54
poningruso more like 20 secs12:54
gobbolinowith 1280x800 resolution (see on Windows)... ubuntu seem to have the same resolution but it distorce image...12:54
airmikeyyeah for my home folder12:54
DaZjorzPoningru: I use USB devices12:54
ompaulponingru, I don't and have not since late 1994 when I choose to start with the command line :)12:54
DaZjorzas keyboard, mouse12:54
DaZjorzif I hibernate12:55
tfortgobbolino, it should be 1280x102412:55
DaZjorzthen they won't be activated in Windows when I boot12:55
DaZjorzGobbolino12:55
DaZjorz1280x800 sucks12:55
DaZjorzi'm using 1280x1024 because its well12:55
gobbolinoand in how i can use that?12:56
DaZjorzhandy12:56
DaZjorzChange your resolution to 1280x102412:56
tfortDaZjorz, it's also the right frigin' resolution12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou all have to check this out is awsome12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.deathclock.com/12:56
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DaZjorzk12:56
DaZjorzLOL12:56
knowledge_you could hibernate linux?....on a laptop?12:57
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jcarrwhat's the package that just installs the latest kde, all of it?12:57
gobbolinobut ubuntu resolution preference give me only 1024x768!!!!!12:57
robotgee_ChurcH_of_FoamY: read the comments!!12:57
linuksojcarr: kubuntu-desktop12:57
benplautknowledge_: what laptop? in linux, it's called suspend-to-disk, BTW12:57
ChurcH_of_FoamY?12:57
knowledge_Dell Inspiron 820012:57
jcarrgobbolino, live with it... I get a 640x480 screen that is 50% the size of the monitor, centered12:57
jcarrDell Inspiron 110012:57
jcarrcuz I'm a poor bastard12:57
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robotgee_ChurcH_of_FoamY: or the letters on deatch clock.12:57
jcarrthe 845patch seems not to work in ubuntu12:57
knowledge_oh, I thought it actually shuts down and saves everything12:58
DaZjorzgobbolino: then I think you should do the highest but most comfortable to see12:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk12:58
robotgee_Linux, cause we shouldn't have to compromise12:58
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DaZjorz!! hibernate mode on windows doesnt work if you use keyboard and/or mouse as USB device12:58
ubotuDaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about12:58
benplautknowledge_: it saves the RAM image to the disk, and then restores it when it booted back up12:58
tfortYour Personal Day of Death is...  Wednesday, December 11, 201912:58
tfortdamn12:58
DaZjorzbecause when you resume, they won't be activated12:58
DaZjorzLOL12:58
to|mwhy is ma CUI of XMMS so grey, big sonts, and ugly gtk1 style, where could I set it right?12:58
gobbolinoyes i want increase resolution but how can i make it?12:58
knowledge_benplaut, so it actually shuts down? meaning doesn't run the battery down?12:59
benplautknowledge_: yeah12:59
to|m+GUI12:59
knowledge_no kidding12:59
DaZjorztfort: *what do you do if you hear that you have only 14 years to live anymore...*12:59
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tfortDaZjorz, time to rob some banks12:59
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knowledge_well I'm guessing that "hibernate the computer" in the logout menu is the same thing12:59
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DaZjorzTfort: I agree ^^12:59
tfortcan someone check if transgaming.org is up right now?12:59
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poningrucan someone go to www.freeculture.org and see if its down?12:59
jcarranyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?12:59
benplautknowledge_: you can also suspend-to-ram (standbye), which supplies only enough power to keep the RAM image from wiping clean12:59
benplautyup, same thing12:59
DaZjorztfort: No, i don't actually, cuz my day of death is..12:59
gobbolinoDaz where i can change resolution?01:00
knowledge_battery on my laptop is no good01:00
Corvusdoes anyone has problems with its dvd unit ? input/output errors01:00
jcarranyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?01:00
knowledge_I wish I could use that01:00
jasoncohentfort, i can ping transgaming.org but the site isn't coming up01:00
robotgee_knowledge_: same here...it's more like a desktop now01:00
tfortjasoncohen, yea thanks, same for me, this is weird, i just want to download the damn thing01:00
jcarrNormally, I need to run 845patch to correct the faulty bios, but it aint working in Ubuntu01:00
jcarrthis is a first01:00
knowledge_jcarr, do you ever have a problem with closing your screen and seeing the desktop all messed up when you open it01:00
DaZjorztfirt: it is...01:00
jcarrit worked on FC, Debian, and Slackware?01:01
linuksoponingru: freeculture.org is up and running...01:01
jcarrknowledge_, YES!! :(01:01
knowledge_robotgee_, I'm in the club with you01:01
Corvusor are the benq 1640 dvd unit's known to have problems on ubuntu/linux ?01:01
knowledge_jcarr, it cuts it in like half right?01:01
DaZjorzFriday, June 19, 206501:01
DaZjorz;-D01:01
poningruok thanks dude01:01
DaZjorzi have another 60 years to live01:01
jcarrknowledge_, I need to use 845patch to get the screen full screen, and it aint working right in ubuntu (runs, but doesnt fix it)01:01
jcarrknowledge_, yeah01:01
DaZjorzLOL01:01
robotgee_knowledge_: it sucks, and a new battery is > 100$01:01
jcarrthe top half will be all scrambled01:01
jcarr:(01:01
knowledge_robotgee_, you can try ebay01:01
jcarrI wish linux would just work01:01
jcarrno bullshit to deal with, just work :)01:02
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knowledge_or crack the battery open and if you're lucky enough you can find the cells and replace them01:02
tfortdamnit why is transgaming down01:02
knowledge_jcarr, there's no fix for it?01:02
robotgee_jcarr: ubuntu is the closest to "It just works" linux01:02
DaZjorztfort: nobody bought their produc01:02
DaZjorz+t01:02
knowledge_I'd agree with robotgee_01:02
DaZjorztfort: stupid guys should've made it open-source and asked for donations01:02
DaZjorzthey would've earned more01:02
knowledge_I really really like ubuntu01:02
jcarrknowledge_, for the close laptop scramble, or the 50% of the screen problem?01:02
DaZjorzme too01:02
robotgee_knowledge_: what's with cracking open the battery??01:03
jcarrthe 50% of the screen resolution is the suckiest :901:03
knowledge_I mean I'm not a Linux guru...and I suck at command line...and between mandrake and ubuntu01:03
knowledge_I like ubuntu01:03
tfortknowledge_, eh, i definately liked portage more than debian's apt-get01:03
robotgee_knowledge_: yeah.01:03
jcarrwell, I'm a long time debian user01:03
DaZjorzGuys01:03
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knowledge_jcarr, the 50%01:03
concept10Any thunderbird users here that use RSS feeds?01:03
jcarrI just install Ubuntu because I didnt have time to reinstall debian01:03
DaZjorzdo you think people will hear me downstairs when I put a cd in my loud CD-player ?01:04
robotgee_tfort: except for the fact that it would take 5 days to cimpile something!01:04
jcarrknowledge_, 845patch fixes it... but it doesnt seem to work for me in Ubuntu so far :/01:04
gobbolinosorry someone can help me to increse resolution of my screen?01:04
robotgee_DaZjorz: go ahead, blast away!01:04
jcarrI may need to change the driver X is using01:04
DaZjorzrobotgee_ i dont want anyone to hear me01:04
knowledge_robotgee_, if the battery isn't too old (Still produced) you can split the casing apart and you'll find nothing more than what looks like AA cells in series, you can buy them from on line and replace them01:04
DaZjorzxP01:04
DaZjorzi mean, the cd player in my own PC01:04
tfortrobotgee_, it wasn't that bad01:04
chaps0063does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?01:04
DaZjorzi would like to set up dual partitioning now01:04
robotgee_knowledge_: neat..will take a look into that01:04
knowledge_MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new battery01:05
DaZjorzi'd like to set up dual partitioning now but i think my cd-player is too loud01:05
jcarrman.. the season premiere of Stargate SG1 kinda sucked01:05
DaZjorzit produces too much sound01:05
robotgee_tfort: i tried gentoo on a sparc, it took abt 2 days to compile X :)01:05
knowledge_BUT that's only if you're inclined to doing that....soldering, working with ribbon cables01:05
tfortjcarr, welcome to the series01:05
DaZjorz;-D01:05
DaZjorzDamn i'm bored01:05
tfortrobotgee_, that's insane it only takes me 45 min01:05
jcarrtfort, eh?01:05
DaZjorzsomeone tell me what to do with my linux box...01:05
chaps0063DaZjorz: use it.01:05
knowledge_mann, I don't get this whole patching thing....the only way I'm doing it right now is because there's a how to01:05
tfortjcarr, after the first 1 maybe 2 seasons, that show got really lame01:05
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knowledge_I have NO clue as to what the commands do01:06
DaZjorzgoddammit01:06
jcarrtfort, eh!? I thought season 6 and 7 were the best01:06
DaZjorzmy stupid hosting provider01:06
airmikeywhats the command to open home browser01:06
jcarrI think it's dying now though01:06
DaZjorzi asked them to change my NS01:06
tfort jcarr it needs to be replaced with more episodes of Firefly01:06
chaps0063DaZjorz: who does your hosting?01:06
linuksojcarr: did you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell01:06
DaZjorzbut now they ask me Why? You can change your DNS settings on our own MCS -.-01:06
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robotgee_tfort: i think i went a bit overboard on the optmization flags, and it was only a 200 mhz box01:06
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tfortrobotgee_, to be honest, you can just use the gen-kernel and you won't see THAT big a difference01:07
DaZjorzDammit, my hosting provider refuses to change the domains NS servers to my own server :\01:07
jcarrtfort, I think they should just end the series, especially with O'Neill gone from the show01:07
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jcarrI mean, they could have went out solid at the end of season 801:07
tfortjcarr, yea01:07
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jcarrThe jaffa are free with Teal'c as the leader of the new Jaffa Nation, the go'loud have been defeated, the replicators are defeated, etc01:08
mitch528can anyone help me set up a ftp server for ubuntu?01:08
robotgee_tfort:  i don't want to get into gentoo anymore :)01:08
zaudragondoes Ubuntu support Airport cards?01:08
robotgee_mitch528: ur back!01:08
mitch528yea01:08
tfortrobotgee_ you can do alot more with it / have a lot more access to breaking tech on it, than on any other system01:08
asimismoI've got an Athlon and tried to switch to k7. Should it require any more than a Synaptic install? I'm getting a kernel panic after reboot...01:08
jcarrnow we get to enjoy Stargate/Farscape :|01:08
airmikeywhen i type nautilus i get the browser without the location bar...how do i get the location bar to come up01:08
robotgee_zaudragon: hey, are u the same guy on the adium team?01:08
zaudragonrobotgee_: I'm not on the team but I am pretty into Adium :D01:09
robotgee_zaudragon: nope, no airport express support...older orinoco cards only01:09
zaudragonrobotgee_: express?01:09
zaudragonrobotgee_: do you mean extreme?01:09
robotgee_zaudragon: yeah, sorry01:09
zaudragonwell, I get the pint then; no Airport :D01:09
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robotgee_tfort: true, but after i quit using the mac, ubuntu just works!01:10
airmikeywell01:10
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knowledge_wow...that command is STILL doing01:10
knowledge_that's amazing01:11
DaZjorz?01:11
aruis there anything for playing wmv files?01:11
DaZjorzmpg12301:11
chaps0063does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?01:11
DaZjorzi thought it worked01:11
DaZjorzno, doesnt suport wmvfile01:11
DaZjorz                 !!! I recommend everyone to FIRST LOOK UP YOUR QUESTIONS AT GOOGLE!!!!!01:12
ubotuDaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:12
zaudragonwell thanks robotgee_01:12
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tfortanyone know where the tmp directory is for firefox?01:12
=== DaZjorz RECOMMENDS EVERYONE TO FIRST SEARCH GOOGLE!!!
=== DaZjorz RECOMMENDS EVERYONE TO FIRST SEARCH GOOGLE!!!
DaZjorzi can't keep saying that enough01:12
knowledge_I do....google sucks01:13
knowledge_well it doesn't suck01:13
knowledge_but it's very generic01:13
knowledge_for me anyhow01:13
DaZjorzknowledge = ??01:13
poningrutfort: do you mean the cache?01:13
tfort.. i suppose01:13
poningruits in your profile folder01:13
tforti believe its something */tmp01:13
knowledge_I seem to create problems for myself that no one has heard of before01:13
Servo888When ever I try to ./configure something I get a "lib/cpp" fails sanity check error... What's up with that?01:13
tfortbut i dont know the whole directory extension01:13
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ompaul!wmv01:13
ubotuompaul: I haven't a clue01:13
poningru~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/Cache01:13
poningruthats where all of it is stored01:13
DaZjorzServo888 try apt-get install gcc01:14
DaZjorzit'll give u some packages that are recommended01:14
poningrualso you can check by about:cache in your url and pressing enter01:14
DaZjorzyou can install them using apt-get too01:14
Servo888DaZjorz, already installed...01:14
ompaulServo888, do this 'apt-get install build-essential'01:15
crazy2kI just installed Ubuntu but I have two problems: First, it doesn't let me change the resolution, it just gives me 640x480 as the only option available (and my card supports up to 1024x768). Second, I can't manage to connect to the Internet. The network configuration tool doesn't let me write my user and password.01:15
jcarris there a cd burner provided by default with ubuntu?01:15
DaZjorzdont think so01:15
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jcarrI have kde installing now, with k3b included, but just curious01:15
jcarr:(01:15
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jcarrI need to update my bios it seems01:15
DaZjorznot sure01:15
jcarrthat is what the problem was01:15
DaZjorznever tried01:15
jcarrit doesnt01:15
DaZjorzi love apt-get01:16
crazy2kCan someone give me a hand?01:16
gm78crazy2k, with what?01:16
linuksocrazy2k: whats you video card? for network, try pppoeconf01:16
crazy2kIt's an old 3dfx Voodoo 301:16
ompauljcarr, nautilus does burn, however I am a command line freak - cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/hd* random.iso where *  is the letter of the burning drive01:16
gm78crazy2k, what do u need help with?01:16
knowledge_sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source <--takes how many minutes on a P4-m 1.6?01:17
blackskyHey all, I'm following the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki, trying to install Flash. But its not working01:17
crazy2kgm78, scroll up please.01:17
Corvushas anyone a benq 1640 ?01:18
blackskywhen I do an "apt-get update", the hoary-extras sources are being ignored :(01:18
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DaZjorzblacksky i had that too01:18
ompaulblacksky, what seems to be the issue01:18
DaZjorzcomment out your CD01:18
ltk160801:18
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ltk160801:18
DaZjorzjust comment out the line that says something about your CD01:18
ltk160801:18
gm78crazy2k, doesnt work when u just entered the room01:19
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blackskyDazjorz: it is commented out01:19
DaZjorzwtf ?!01:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: No double lines ?01:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: Where did you save the file01:19
alberto__Any know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?01:19
crazy2kIt asks me for my root password. I haven't set one. The installer didn't ask for one. How can I set it?01:19
ltk160801:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: and what lines are available01:19
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blackskythe file is /etc/apt/sources.list01:20
ompaulblacksky, you did a apt-get update after you added  multiverse to your system?01:20
gm78crazy2k, sudo passwd root  it will ask for a password, enter urs, then enter the new root password01:20
crazy2kThanks.01:20
bet0xAny know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?01:20
gm78crazy2k, no prob.01:20
linuksocrazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf01:20
gm78crazy2k, what r u having problems with in regard to ur display?01:20
linuksocrazy2k: just use you user password!01:20
crazy2kYeah. Hold on.01:20
DaZjorzBlacksky Good, can you paste it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:20
gm78linukso, having a root passwd is a good idea anyways, ive had it where i couldnt log into my user account, it was a good thing i had the root password set01:21
blackskyDaZjorz: ok, 1 minute. Could you do the same?01:21
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linuksocrazy2k: sudo wants *your* password, not roots. The root passwd is disabled in ubuntu by default, but you can as gm78 said set it with sudo passwd root01:21
crazy2kIt's loading the pppoeconf thing.01:21
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robotgee_mitch528: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver01:21
Will_gm78: Surely if you can forget a user password, you can forget a root password?01:22
crazy2kgm78, it doesn't let me change my resolution to anything but 640x480. That is the problem.01:22
gm78Will_, didnt forget my user account, deleted my home directory01:22
linuksocrazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf01:22
Will_gm78: Noted01:22
gm78Will_, lol01:22
crazy2kNow, I should disconnect this computer in order to configure Internet on the other.01:22
blackskyDaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64301:22
crazy2kCan you wait till I'm back?01:22
DaZjorzk01:23
linuksocrazy2k: in pastebin.com01:23
crazy2kThank you.01:23
tfortwhen i try to do a upgrade01:23
tfortThe following packages have been kept back:01:23
tfort  mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support01:23
DaZjorzBlacksky: Remove your double lines01:23
tforti get this, any idea how to upgrade them?01:23
blackskyDaZjorz: eh? What are double lines?01:23
DaZjorzblacksky: Like 2 lines that are the same :/01:24
linuksotfort: sudo aptitude upgrade01:24
tfortlinukso, still nothing01:24
linuksotfort: hmmm, try synaptic01:25
blackskyDaZjorz: I can't see any. There are lines for binaries, and lines for source, but they're not duplicates.01:25
DaZjorzBlacksky: Standby01:25
blackskyor am i being thick!01:25
DaZjorzBlacksky: Remove all double servers. hoary includes hoary-updates, i thought.01:25
tforttransgaming's site is down anyone have the point2play deb files?01:26
chaps0063how do I enable dma on my dvd drive?01:26
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arcanumhi01:27
DaZjorzhi01:27
tfortE: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/mozgnome.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support01:27
arcanumhas anyone solved the gnome hanging problem/01:27
arcanumgoogled it looks like there's no straight answer01:27
robotgee_what problem? :)01:27
arcanumwell01:27
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arcanumafter the install01:27
arcanumit's all dandy01:27
arcanumdo some updates01:27
arcanumand reboot01:27
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arcanumgdm starts - then i login and gnome hangs01:27
arcanumi see mouse and background01:28
arcanum(the brown one)01:28
blackskyDaZjorz: Still getting Ign's. :/ I don't understand whats going on here. What causes a source to be ignored?01:28
crazy2kOk. Internet is working now.01:28
arcanumit takes like 3-4 mins before it actually starts01:28
crazy2kWhat was it that you wanted me to paste?01:28
crazy2kI'm on the Ubuntu computer,01:28
linuksocrazy2k: The "Device" section from /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:29
crazy2kOk.01:29
DaZjorzBlacksky: Do you get an error msg01:29
robotgee_arcanum: nope...don't know anything abt that :(01:29
arcanumgr01:29
arcanumit's just annoying waiting 4 mins for gnome to start01:29
arcanum;|01:29
blackskyDaZjorz: no, just "Ign:" at the start of some of the lines01:29
arcanumand there's no error messages01:29
DaZjorzBlacksky: Try apt-get update and paste all output on the pastebin01:30
robotgee_arcanum: tried openbox? it's a great window manager, and works really fast in gnome01:30
blackskyDaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64401:31
arcanumwell01:31
DaZjorzk01:31
arcanumi decided to try ubuntu+gnome before i was running fedora+xfce01:31
arcanumworked great01:31
crazy2klinukso: http://pastebin.com/314709 Apparently everything's ok.01:31
arcanumbut i guess i'm going to have to go back to fedora01:32
arcanum=\01:32
robotgee_which one?01:32
arcanumwhich sucks becuase ubuntu looks promising01:32
DaZjorzBlacksky: Standby01:32
arcanumminus that gnome bug01:32
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arcanumyou know what i noticed/01:32
arcanumi decided to strace gnome-panel01:32
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64501:32
arcanumit looks like it's trying to connect to localhost port01:32
knowledge_Can anyone explain that?01:32
arcanumto a localhost port01:32
arcanumrather01:32
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arcanummaybe there's a connect() timeout01:33
crazy2kgm78: Could you read what I pasted?01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: I thought the hit means that the file was downloaded correctly etc.01:33
chaps0063my music is really quiet..01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: the IGN. Where does that stand for ?01:33
blackskyIgnored I presume.01:33
chaps0063how do I turn it up, the volume is max in xine..01:33
blackskyIt seems to hit and ignore the same sources - which is weird.01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: lol ofcourse . My bad. I'll send you my /etc/apt/sources.list.01:33
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blackskyta!01:34
crazy2kWhat should I do now?01:34
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/645 <---anyone?01:34
gobbolinohi again01:34
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blackskyknowledge: erm, have you filled your hard disk?01:35
linuksocrazy2k: hmm, what about the display section?01:35
knowledge_I sure would hope not01:35
knowledge_how can I check?01:35
blackskydf or df -h01:35
DaZjorzI commented it to the pastebin.01:35
linuksocrazy2k: arg. Monitor section...01:35
chaps0063can someone help me get the volume to a normal level?01:35
DaZjorzBlacksky: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64601:36
blackskyDaZjorzL Thanks - will try it!01:36
zenlunaticanyone know if links browser can do tabs?01:36
gobbolinosomeone use 855resolution?01:36
arcanumsigh01:36
crazy2klinukso: It's ok apparently. http://pastebin.com/31471001:37
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DaZjorzBlacksky: No problem. Does it work ?01:37
blackskyDaZjorz: you don't have a hoary-extras source there?01:38
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linuksocrazy2k: ah, damn. I'm a bit slow... Getting late where I am. You must modify the Screen section01:38
linuksocrazy2k: Just add the missing modes.01:38
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dapimp53I currently have a dual boot and its using Grub1.5. How do I set wich OS is the defualt01:38
DaZjorzblacksky: Its included with the main things01:38
blackskyDaZjorz:I was wanting to install flash, Reak Player etc01:38
DaZjorzBlacksky I think all these things are included in the normal servers too...?01:39
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blackskyDaZjorz: I was trying to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:39
crazy2klinukso: The problem is there are no missing modes. The 1024x768 option is there. But it's not shown when I want to change the resolution via the preferences.01:39
DaZjorzBlacksky: Try to do a apt-get update01:40
DaZjorzthen apt-get upgrade01:40
DaZjorzand after that, try to download what you wanted01:40
DaZjorzit should work01:40
linuksocrazy2k: hmmm01:41
crazy2klinukso: I think this has happened to me before but I don't remember how I fixed it.01:41
crazy2kIt was one of those goddam files.01:41
linuksocrazy2k: all the simple solutions failed...01:41
DaZjorzBlacksky: And ?01:42
blackskyDaZjorz: nope: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64701:42
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blackskythat package is supposed to be in multiverse in the hoary-extras source01:42
linuksocrazy2k: last resort: past the entire xorg-log (/var/log/xorg-something...)01:42
TokenBadwhat program for monitoring your bandwidth in ubuntu?01:42
DaZjorzblacksky: isn't "apt-get install flashplugin" working ?01:42
dapimp53Is there somewhere I can edit the Grub config or anything01:43
tfortbah to this.. back to gentoo i go01:43
gm78crazy2k, sorry, left the room01:43
crazy2klinukso: Sorry, I did not understand.01:43
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blackskyDaZjorz: same message - not found01:43
TokenBadanyone?01:44
crazy2kgm78: It's ok. We haven't fixed the problem anyway. Scroll up if you want to.01:44
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dapimp53Also I have a Toshiba Satellite Laptop with a Realteck audio. When I am in Ubuntu I dont have any audio. Any idea how I can make it work so I can hear stuff while I am in Ubuntu01:45
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DaZjorzBlacksky: Erm, Sorry, No idea then. Maybe add the servers now and retry it, and just ignore the IGN lines?01:45
billytwowillybest star wars parody ever: http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html01:45
linuksocrazy2k: if you just paste the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin, then the answer must be somewhere in there...01:45
DaZjorzthey must be ignored for some reason01:45
crazy2klinukso: Oh, ok. Hold on.01:46
blackskyDaZjorz: Ok, thanks for the help. I'm beginning to suspect that that wiki page is wrong/out of date.01:46
DaZjorzBlacksky: No problem.01:46
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blackskyMaybe a better question is: Has anyone got flash working, and if so, how?01:47
crazy2kThat's a lot of text. I don't know if I'm allowed to.01:47
r0ddoes ubuntu go out of their way to make kernel compiling hard01:47
r0dhave never had so much trouble before...01:48
DaZjorzBlacksky: Use /me. People will read your question easier.01:48
DaZjorzlike /me has a problem: (...)01:48
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linuksocrazy2k: use sudo to read it and pipe it to a textfile on you desktop01:48
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blacksky:)01:48
linuksocrazy2k: sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/x.log01:49
dylan_how do i tell firefox that the version is actually 1.0.4 and not 1.0.2 (the ubuntu version)01:49
linuksoarg, thats not really a pipe :)01:49
crazy2klinukso: I was talking about pastebin.com. Don't know if I'm allowed to paste all that text.01:49
linuksoAh, stupid me... Think it must be time to go to sleep soon...01:49
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up01:49
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crazy2klinukso: Done. http://pastebin.com/31471701:50
NuffSeddylan> about:config general.useragent.vendorSub01:50
dylan_thanks, nuffsed01:50
NuffSedchange to 1.0.401:50
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glickcd01:51
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up01:51
crazy2kThere seems to be a lot of errors realting to the resolution.01:51
crazy2krelated*01:52
crazy2khsync out of range01:52
dylan_Why does gtkpod tell me that my iPod's file structure isnt right?  Can i fix this?  thanks for all the help, guys im a total n00b01:52
linuksocrazy2k: did you try changing the refreshrate when switching resolution?01:53
linuksocrazy2k: 1024x768 only support 60 hz01:53
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crazy2klinukso: I have just on option for refresh rate.01:53
crazy2kone*01:53
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crazy2kWhich is 60Hz.01:53
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ilmariis the X breakage mentioned in the topic known to affect dead keys in emacs?01:54
crazy2kAnd just only one for resolution, which is 640x480.01:54
linuksocrazy2k: arg...01:54
neuronlapsehey, how is there a website like packages.gentoo.org that shows all the ubuntu packages?01:54
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crazy2klinukso: Maybe I have to explicitly write my default refresh rate and resolution. However, I don't know how to do it.01:55
crazy2kIt might work though.01:55
ilmarineuronlapse: packages.ubuntu.com01:55
ilmarineuronlapse: who'd'a thunk? ;-)01:55
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sizzamif i create a file in vmware, whats the easiest way to get access to that file in my normal linux environment01:56
neuronlapsethanks :-D01:56
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up. I need to check what is going wrong when I boot the computer01:56
dylan_why doesnt beep show up in synaptic anymore?01:56
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ilmarisizzam: loopback mount the vmware disk image01:56
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sizzamilmari:  thanks, i'll search on how to do that01:56
ilmarirobotgee3: network-manager01:56
ilmarisizzam: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point/01:57
TokenBadis shockwave on linux?01:57
ilmarirobotgee3: but that's only in breezy01:57
ilmariTokenBad: nope, just flash01:57
neuronlapsehow can I find which ubuntu I'm using?01:57
crazy2klinukso: Any idea on how to do that?01:57
TokenBadthat sucks01:57
neuronlapselike hoary breezy etc?01:57
sizzamilmari:  thanks!01:57
ilmarineuronlapse: cat /etc/issue01:58
ray_mo shockwave01:58
ray_no01:58
ray_it sucks01:58
crazy2klinukso: Oh, found a similar problem in the forum.01:58
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neuronlapsethanks :)01:58
ray_can anyone find a way to use shockwave?01:58
dapimp53Wow how come no one is answering me where the error logs are located for ubuntu01:58
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synddapimp53, cause no one paying attention knows?01:59
synddapimp53, just be patient.01:59
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Thomas!repositories01:59
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:59
Kyraltry /var01:59
linuksocrazy2k: great! Hope it helps you. Sorry I couldn't, but now I got to go to sleep... Happy hunting for a solution.01:59
crazy2kThanks anyway.01:59
blackskydapimp53: what logs are you looking for? Try /var/log? /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages are a good start01:59
crazy2k:)01:59
Thomasdude01:59
ilmaridapimp53: what error logs?01:59
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Thomaswhat happen with repositories today i can't update02:00
ThomasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:00
dapimp53I need to check up when the computer is booting02:00
dapimp53it gives some errors02:00
Thomasany idea02:00
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Kyraldapimp53, dmesg02:00
chaps0063I just upgraded to 2.6.10 kernel and sound does not work in xine, any thoughts?02:00
blackskydapimp53: syslog or messages is what you are looking for. Also try the command dmesg02:00
chaps0063never mind, wrong button in xine..02:01
Thomashello02:01
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Thomas!ping me02:02
ubotuThomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:02
dylan_why doesnt beep show up in synaptic?02:02
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kbrooksdylan_, reload?02:03
dylan_ooh thanks lol02:03
Thomas?02:03
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Thomashelp me pls some body02:03
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blackskyThomas: whats up?02:04
dapimp53On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect02:04
ThomasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:04
Thomasthere02:04
Thomasi just run apt-get update02:04
blackskyThomas: and it worked in the past?02:05
ray_Thomas: i had the same problem02:05
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blackskyThomas: Does this file exist: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages02:06
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tfortanyone have the point2play and/or cedega .deb files lying around?02:06
rob^tfort, try02:06
rob^!cedega02:06
ubotuit has been said that cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4502:06
tforttransgaming.org has been down for 2 days now and i'm seriously in a bind for some WoW'in02:06
ray_what is cedega?02:06
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rob^ray_, a way to play windows games on Linux02:07
tfortd3d emu02:07
erik_how do i make firefox support java?02:07
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rob^!tell xry abou java02:07
dapimp53On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect02:07
xry!tell xry about java02:07
rob^hmm02:07
xrybut it doesnt work02:08
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jomdomhey guys, any reason ubuntu wouldn't be saving my refresh rate when i restart?02:08
jomdomit always defaults back to 7502:08
xrybut i just need the plugin for firefox02:08
rob^xry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:08
xrywhats the name?02:08
jomdomi'd use 75, but the viewport is off the right side of the screen02:09
Thomasray_ doe u fix ur apt-get update ?02:09
xryi repeat, i have java, just need the plugin for firefox02:09
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nightswimsymlink it02:09
blackskyThomas: was that file there?02:09
rob^ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java includes the Firefox plugin02:09
ubotu...but java is already something else...02:09
nightswimjomdom: because you havent told it o02:09
rob^wtf?02:09
rob^!java02:09
jomdomnightswim: how do you mean?02:10
ray_Thomas: i changed my apt sources to the canadian ones'02:10
rob^I think ubotus on crack again02:10
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jomdomi am using the system -> preferences -> screen resolution02:10
jomdomtool02:10
paxubotu: forget java02:10
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ray_gotta have java02:10
syndjava sucks02:11
tfortanyone know the answer to this, but the AGP aperture should be half your video ram right?02:11
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rob^ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.02:11
syndlimewire and azureus are prime examples02:11
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:11
ubotupax: i forgot java02:11
ubotuokay, rob^02:11
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synd!synd02:11
ubotusomebody said synd was a badass02:11
syndsmart bot :)02:11
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tfort!synd02:12
syndwtf02:12
syndwtf02:12
synd!synd02:12
uboturumour has it, synd is a badass02:12
tfortwow... even smarter bot, it has flood protection :-)02:12
Thomasblacksky this file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages02:12
concept10thank god02:12
paxrob^: seems like the bot already had a java entry and needed to forget that one before taking yours :)02:12
tfort!forty02:12
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, tfort02:12
Thomasray_ can u give ur sources.list ?02:12
tfort:-)02:12
Thomaswhere it is canadian sources ?02:12
rob^pax mine was the same, it just wasnt spitting out the one it had02:12
blackskyThomas: yes. Is it there?02:13
ray_Thomas: sure02:13
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Thomasdcc me pls02:13
paxrob^: maybe someone should work on his AI script02:13
Thomasand i will replace with my one02:13
ugohi has anyone been able to get arla or openafs working on an amd6402:14
ugo?02:14
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ugoive torn my hair out trying out different compile settings.....aargh!!!!02:15
ray_ur gonna have to except it thomas02:15
ray_Thomas: U GOTTA ACCEPT IT02:15
cafuego!find MkTemp.pl02:15
ray_there ya go02:15
Thomasyes02:15
Thomaswait i'll check it02:16
ray_Thomas: basicly its changing the us to ca02:16
Thomasoh ic02:16
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pl' returned no results.02:16
Thomassoo archive.ubuntu.com change to ca./archive.ubuntu.com02:17
Thomas*ca.archive.ubuntu.com02:17
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ugohey....anybody see my question...id really like some help or a pointer at least?02:17
cafuego!find MkTemp.pm02:18
cafuegod'oh02:18
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ray_Thomas: just paste mine in there02:18
lordgothhello02:18
lordgothhow do you get on the dev team?02:18
w01fweird!02:18
w01fI was going to ask the saem question02:18
lordgothlol02:18
lordgothlies02:19
w01fI just read somewhere that you have to post some poics to get approved02:19
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pm' returned no results.02:19
kbrookspoics?02:19
lordgothpics i think02:19
kbrooksno02:19
poningrupics?02:19
w01fyes pics of kiddy porn i guess02:19
kbrooksyou dont02:19
lordgothyeah i heard the same thing02:19
w01fthats what i heard02:19
kbrookslordgoth, w01f: WRONG02:19
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lordgothi just want to do get on the dev team because of the 9 year old chick hookups I heard they have02:19
w01fkbrooks?02:20
lordgothkbrooks more like RIGHT02:20
sizzamilmari:  can you give me that command to mount a vmware image again?02:20
ray_lordgoth: what?02:20
kbrookslordgoth, stop the jokes02:20
lordgothsizzam rm -rf /02:20
sizzamhaha02:20
w01fsizzam: vmware wont get you pussy02:20
lordgoth<302:20
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poningruyes thats it you email it to these people:  J. Edgar Hoover Building02:20
poningru935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW02:20
poningruWashington, D.C. 20535-000102:20
poningrumail the kiddie porn to there02:20
lordgothk02:20
lordgoththat's not what i heard though02:21
kbrookslordgoth, dont lie then02:21
w01fkbrooks: are you a genuine Ubuntu hacker?02:21
lordgothw01f no02:21
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lordgothhe's a genuine ubuntu pedophile02:21
w01flol02:21
w01fi thought so02:21
sizzamugh, trolls02:21
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kbrookscut it02:22
w01fid like to be a pedophile for once02:22
ugokid jokes are not funny people02:22
lordgothsizzam where?02:22
kbrookscafuego,02:22
cafuegokids aren't funny either, so that's a good match.02:22
w01fugo: sorry if we hurt ur feelings02:22
cafuegokbrooks: where?02:22
paxlast thing you should bring here is some bad joke like that02:22
ugono need for the sorry....take that kind of chat out of here02:22
w01fh0h0h002:22
ugonot on this thread....02:22
w01ffag ALERT!02:23
w01flol@thread02:23
kbrooksi am a contributor to  ubuntu, lordgoth and w01f02:23
w01fso you DO get 9yo pussy02:23
w01fso you DO get 9yo pussy02:23
w01flucky bastard you02:23
kbrooksdont you dare say bad things to the community02:23
ugothen you should be ashamed of yourself02:23
w01fshould I?02:24
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w01fwhats wrong with kiddy pr0n?02:24
kbrooks... ... ... ...02:24
cafuegokbrooks: ?02:24
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kbrookscafuego, um, those trolls are evil02:24
r0domg w01f your a numb....02:24
lordgoth  I love ubuntu pedophiles like kbrooks!02:24
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lordgoth          \-._^   ^|     |    ^_.-/02:24
cafuegokbrooks: No, they're just stupid and bored. Put them on /ignore.02:24
lordgoth          `\  `-._  \___/ ^_.-' /'02:24
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lordgoth                .'^   ^    `.      .'   `__\02:24
lordgoth              .'    ^     ^  `.__.'^ .\ \02:24
r0dwheres an admin when ya need one...02:24
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lordgoth                 |  ^     ^ |02:25
r0dflooding is bad for your health02:25
lordgoth                 \^         /02:25
lordgoth                  `.    ^ .'02:25
lordgoth             jgs   : ^    ;02:25
lordgoth           .-~~~~~~   |  ^ ~~~~~~-.02:25
lordgoth          /   ^     ^ |    ^       \02:25
aukwtf!!02:25
lordgoth          \^     ^   / \  ^     ^  /02:25
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zenlunaticquick everyone mess up his flood02:25
r0dadmin where are u!02:25
cafuegoIf you don't feed the trolls, they die within minutes.02:25
ugohonestly these ppl ought to be banned02:25
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auk/ignore02:25
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r0dthey have nothing better to do02:25
r0dsad ppl02:25
sizzamauk:  thx02:25
lordgothLOL02:26
sizzamls02:26
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w01fr0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids02:26
w01fr0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids02:26
lordgothw01f lol yes he uses ubuntu02:26
r0dim sure you are a kid02:26
auklordgoth: don't laugh; if you keep it up no one on this channel will know when you say anyhting02:26
r0dactually i use gentoo02:26
r0dbut thx for the assumption02:26
lordgothr0d just as bad02:26
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w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
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w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
mpettheubuntu is the best distro it has sux name02:26
lordgothubuntu pedophiles and gentoo homos02:26
r0dand i care of what u think because....02:27
lordgothboth are lol02:27
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zenlunaticnalioth, attack of the trolls :)02:27
w01flol@GNU/pedophiux02:27
ugolordgoth....whats wrong with you?02:27
aukrofl02:27
r0dsad kids02:27
w01flol@GNU/pedophilux02:27
r0ddont u have homework to do02:27
naliothzenlunatic:  trolls?02:27
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zenlunaticnalioth, scroll up02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
sizzami hate it when the mandriva kids come to this room02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
cafuegoPeople, stop responding to them. Sheesh. it's not hard, is it?02:27
lordgothr0d a.s.l?02:27
naliothah, yes grafitti02:27
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naliothhas an @op been informed?02:27
cafuegonalioth: No, scroll back further.02:27
w01fsizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT02:27
w01fsizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT02:28
aukrofl02:28
cafuegonalioth: ubotu needs an 'inform ops' command.02:28
aukheh02:28
zenlunaticcafuego, they're kinda funny02:28
w01foh my god! i hear IRC sirens02:28
aukwho's in charge of ubotu dev?02:28
ugobetter....twits ignored02:28
cafuegozenlunatic: But not particualrly topical.02:28
lordgoth  r0d touched my jenkies =~(02:28
lordgoth/02:28
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lordgoth  |(_.'  |    /    .-\-.  \  |02:28
lordgoth  \     0|    |   ( O| O) | o|02:28
aruwhat the hell02:28
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Melechorionhio02:28
aukwell--ignore time02:28
lordgoth   \ (_) | o         -` .-`  |02:28
naliothno, they just need to catch up on the "we need to add these users to the access list" list02:28
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lordgoth.' `-.` '.|='=.='=.='=.='=|._/_ `-'.'02:29
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lordgoth   .'   ).| '=' '='\/ '=' |02:29
lordgoth   `._.`  '---------------'02:29
ThomasWTF !!!!!!!!!02:29
lordgoth           //___\   //___\02:29
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lordgoth    LGB      ||_.-.   ||_.-.02:29
lordgoth            (_.--__) (_.--__)02:29
aukyeah, jsut ignore him02:29
lordgothlol02:29
no_gatez_fangeeze02:29
glicklol02:29
naliothThomas:  and /ignore <username> works wonderfully02:29
w01fnalioth? what is that you are talking about? j00 seem like a proficent Ubuntu man02:29
glicknice art!02:29
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auknot liek i'm seeing anything of his anymore02:29
zenlunaticyou guys got to admit he is a good ascii artist02:29
r0dyea just did that02:29
loldamn gnu hippies02:29
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^thehatsrule^lol he just copy and paste...02:29
rob^lol this is a help channel02:29
kbrookslol: troll02:30
ugoall he wans is attention02:30
pedofileTHEN HELP US!02:30
aukjust ignore him!02:30
pedofileTHEN HELP US!02:30
lolrob^ i know02:30
naliothrob^: so we are helping psychopaths vent thru art?02:30
rob^lol go elsewhere02:30
lolrob^ #ubuntu helps you get kinder pr0n02:30
lolrob^ but only if your on the ubuntu dev team =~(02:30
lolhaters =\02:30
kbrooks.....02:30
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ugocan someone pls point me where i can get some arla support02:30
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sizzambob2:  a ban is in order02:31
sizzamright on02:31
r0dty!02:31
naliothaw, bob2  it was just gettin fun! lol02:31
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cafuegobob2: thanks02:31
lolugo http://support.on.nimp.org/02:31
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bob2please do point that sort of thing out...(ie use my nick so the hilight triggers)02:31
sizzami need help mounting my vmware vmdk XP file02:31
cafuegobob2: Can you msg be a list of op nicks? I'll an an !ops command to the bot.02:31
bob2ok02:32
BobaFettguys ... i'm having problems installing the flash player plugin for Opera ... I get a 'bad interpreter: permission denied' when running the installer ... any ideas? :(02:32
rob^good02:32
robotgeekanybody know a good tool for managing wireless connections?02:32
Thomasbob2 can u set the topic from where to must get source.list for apt-02:32
chaps0063how do I get audio to work in firefox with flash?02:32
Thomasit change from us02:32
naliothBobaFett: pull the libflash thingy out of mozilla plugins and cp it into the opera plugins folder02:32
r0drobotgeek, like what? just seeing all the AP's02:33
bob2Thomas: hm?02:33
ugohey does anyone have experience with afs on ubuntu?02:33
kbrooksbob2, spammer detected: lol02:33
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cafuegosheesh, I should disable ssh for a while.02:33
robotgeekr0d: i can see my AP's, and all that...the connection keeps dropping02:33
BobaFettnalioth: supposedly, I completely removed firefox (it didnt work properly in my fresh ubuntu install) so I replaced it with an Opera .deb I got off the web...02:33
poningrunalioth: please dont be gay02:33
Thomas!sources02:33
ubotuI heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:33
robotgeekr0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop02:34
r0dbob2,  having hella time compling kernel. keep getting "cant mount vfs" i have all filesystems buildt in kernel02:34
naliothponingru: what?02:34
r0dwhat card are u using?02:34
kbrooksbob2, spammer02:34
r0dor chipset robotgeek02:34
naliothBobaFett:  do you still have your ~/.mozilla folders for firefox?02:34
kbrooksthere is a spammer, bob202:34
bob2r0d: then you forgot your ide controller02:34
poningruoops sorry nalioth02:34
robotgeekr0d: i am using a Belkin Card, with rt2500 on a ppc (no ndiswrapper)02:34
bob2r0d: the stock answer is "don't do that", tho02:35
poningrusomeone fingered me02:35
poningruI thought it was you02:35
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poningru/Finger02:35
r0dbob2 i i need to patch my kernel to. thats why im compling plus ntfs write02:35
naliothponingru: so put a good finger response in your client02:35
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BobaFettnalioth: yes, they're still lying around my home folder, but the plugins folder's completely empty...02:35
bob2r0d: so use the default ubuntu config02:35
Thomas!proxy02:35
ubotuThomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:35
lolWhy is bob2 the same as all other ubuntu users?? He loves little boys...02:35
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bob2r0d: and don't forget to make the initrd02:35
lol  \            /  \            /   \ '.\    /.' / .-\                >/-.02:35
paxleave insiders politics outta this help channel. if you have problems with dev team or other, how's this kinda behavior gonna help your case?02:35
lol  /'._  --  _.'\  /'._  --  _.'\   /'. `'--'` .'\/   '._-.__--__.-_.'02:35
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kbrooksbob2: lol spammed a GNAA site02:35
bob2lol: idiot02:35
poningruhmm good artwork though02:36
r0dyea bob2  that initrd is giving me hell to. is their a wiki on that to learn more?02:36
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ugoi agree02:36
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bob2r0d: no need.  use the right .config, build with 'make-kpkg --initrd'02:36
KeizSup guys02:36
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KeizAnyone here managed to install NetworkManager?02:36
ilmarisizzam: provided that it's just a plain filesystem image: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point02:36
ugosup keiz02:36
ugoknow anything about afs?02:36
robotgeekr0d: i thought that it was dropping cause the card was too hot02:36
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cafuegoright02:37
naliothBobaFett: are you still here?02:37
cafuego!ops lol is a troll02:37
ubotucafuego: okay02:37
JDahlupo, I know AFS as a user...02:37
bob2i_love_you_bob2: er, your ip is the same, sorry02:37
r0dbob2,  ok in a nutshell; I'll compile the kernel w/ the ntfs write option and patched driver. then run that make-kpkg?02:37
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naliothboy howdy! it's fun night in #ubuntu02:37
cafuegoyou broken02:37
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bob2r0d: no, make-kpkg compiles it02:37
r0doooooo02:37
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r0dkool thx bob2 . was hoping u'd get on..02:37
bob2r0d: bear in mind the normal ntfs-write driver is guaranteed to corrupt the disk, tho.02:38
bob2s/disk/filesystem/02:38
chaps0063how do I get (in gnome) a panel to show what my current cpu speed is?02:38
ugoafs..afs...afs....my life depends on the shit application02:38
r0dbummer02:38
bob2well, I'm glad my insomnia benefited someone ;p02:38
robotgee1r0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop (did u tell anything?)02:38
robotgee1Keiz: it's on breezy, have to wait for dhcpbd to get ported to hoary02:38
JDahlugo, do you happen to have specific AFS questions?02:38
r0drobotgee1, no02:38
ugoyes....02:38
r0drobotgee1, do you know the chipset that uses02:38
BobaFettnalioth: yes ... I was trying to get something under 'interpreter' from Synaptic to see if this thing installs :(02:38
bob2networkmanager for hoary is more complicated than that02:38
robotgee1r0d: rt250002:38
BobaFettnalioth: but my mozilla plugins folder is empty...02:38
ugoim trying to compile arla or openafs on amd6402:38
bob2it's unlikely it will ever be usefully backported02:38
ugoboth fail02:39
cafuego!ops02:39
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, and, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!02:39
cafuegoThere we go02:39
robotgee1bob2: oh okie...02:39
naliothBobaFett: you should have more than one mozilla-related folder02:39
bob2cafuego: s/and// :)02:39
cafuegoubotu: unlock ops02:39
ubotucafuego: unlocking factoid ops02:39
cafuegoubotu: ops =~ s/and, //02:39
ubotucafuego: OK02:39
cafuego!lock ops02:39
ubotulocking factoid ops, cafuego02:39
ugowhat information do you need JDhal02:39
BobaFettnalioth: I never installed flash plugin for mozilla in the first place, so it shouldn't be there ... maybe if I get it from Synaptic, and then cp it to the opera plugins folder ... ?02:39
ugo?02:39
benplautstill trying to figure out what you guys are trying to do...?02:39
r0drobotgee1, dont know anything about that chipset. do a iwlist eth1 ap02:40
JDahlugo, CVS openafs compiles quite easily on x86; I dont know 64 bit complicates it02:40
darkwind!backports02:40
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!02:40
r0drobotgee1, replace eth1 w/ your card's configuration02:40
bob2cafuego: thanks dude02:40
cafuegobob2: np.02:40
ugook ill take my chances with that version02:40
robotgee1r0d: the chipset works fine, it;s just that suddenly, the led's go off and the connection drops02:40
naliothBobaFett: you'll probably end up installing moz again02:40
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JDahlugo, there's also unofficial Ubuntu packages for arla (x86) somewhere... maybe get those and rebuild?02:40
r0drobotgee1, reason i asked chipset because their is a patch you need for certain drivers02:40
ugoalready tried that02:40
robotgee1r0d: i've have nothing but problems today (i even had to use some other nick ... like now)02:41
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i_love_bob2i love you02:41
r0drobotgee1, did you trie #wireless channel?02:41
i_love_bob2why did you do that to me02:41
i_love_bob2=~(02:41
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BobaFettnalioth: I downloaded flashplayer from macromedia.com , extracted it ... but when I run ./flashplayer-installer I get the 'permission denied' error, even as root...02:41
JDahlugo, arla seems like a mess to build from source... I would try to get openafs working - you just need the client, right?02:41
robotgee1r0d: on freenode?02:41
r0dyea02:41
ugoyes02:41
robotgee1cool, i dint know that...off i go!02:41
r0dthose guys no their stuff02:41
kbrooksnalioth, btw i added " Do not use the backports for day to day usage!"02:42
darkwindhey this say conection refused when conecting http://backports.ubuntuforums.org02:42
ugoi have the module sources of openafs from ubuntu02:42
robotgee1okay..be back02:42
naliothBobaFett:  have you tried "gplflash.sourceforge.net"?02:42
kbrooksi_love_bob2, no you do not love him02:42
naliothkbrooks:  bravo!02:42
i_love_bob2kbrooks i do too02:42
bob2i_love_bob2: abuse of tor will result in tor being banned02:42
i_love_bob2i want to have gay nigger sex with him02:42
BobaFettnalioth: nopes ... what's that?02:42
i_love_bob2i'm only a top though02:42
i_love_bob2-\02:42
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naliothBobaFett: go check it out02:42
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ugodo you know if the module sources for openafs from ubuntu fail are problematic on x8602:42
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ugo?02:42
naliothBobaFett: it might work for you02:42
KeizDid Thom give up on NetworkManager02:43
i_love_bob2lol02:43
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BobaFettnalioth: will do ... thanks a bunch! ({)02:43
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JDahlugo, I build openafs maybe 6-7 months ago... I think I had to patch a few things manually02:43
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ugook02:43
ugolets go have a look at cvs then02:43
chaps0063has anyone gotten the tablet on a tablet pc working?02:45
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zenlunaticchaps0063, google it02:45
calamarihi02:45
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chaps0063zenlunatic: I have, but I haven't found my particular tablet...and all things I found online haven't worked.02:46
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JDahlugo, as I remember, you to follow the README instructions down to the last detail, and there's something about incorrect redefines in afs headers files, but compiling it was doable02:46
mitch528how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)02:46
JDahls/you to/you have to/02:46
KeizDang02:46
KeizNetworkManager is no workie on Ubuntu02:46
calamariI have my floppy at /a in the fstab.. so I do "mount /a", then "cp files /a", then "umount /a".. but on the umount it says the device is busy.  I tried sync, then umount again.. still buys.  The only way to make it unbusy again seems to be a reboot.  Is this a linux bug?02:46
KeizWhen I try to compile it I get lib errors but the libs are up to date.02:47
bob2Keiz: it works in breezy02:47
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bob2Keiz: it won't work on hoary02:47
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darkwindguy's where to get source.list and backport ??02:47
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Keizbob2, Gah02:47
KeizBreezy the new one?02:47
kbrooksdarkwind,02:47
The_Voxcalamari: you need to run "lsof /a" and see what's actually keeping it busy02:47
mitch528how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)02:47
kbrooks!backport02:47
bob2darkwind: the default sources.list is fine02:47
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, kbrooks02:47
kbrooks!sources.list02:47
ubotuWish i knew, kbrooks02:47
kbrooks!source.list02:47
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:48
kbrooks?02:48
kbrooks:|02:48
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know whether gnome will soon/ever support "menubar in panel" mode, like in os x and kde?02:48
kbrooks!backports02:48
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!02:48
bob2Keiz: breezy is the development version, yes.  NM needs a newer dbus binding than is in hoary02:48
ugook JDahl02:48
calamariaha.. famd    3256 calamari   37r   DIR    2,0 2048  183 /media/floppy0/.Trash-calamari02:48
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: #gnome02:48
Keizbob2, Dang.02:48
calamariThe_Vox: thanks02:48
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: have you tried superkaramba? (i know it's not gnome)02:48
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Keizbob2, How can I upgrade my current one to Breezy?02:48
ugoits checking out at the moment....hope you'll be here in case i need to ask any more questions02:48
ugothanks02:48
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bob2Keiz: don't, just wait for it in october02:48
The_Voxcalamari: once you find out what's keeping it busy, you undo it :)02:48
BROKEN_LADDERnever heard of it nalioth02:49
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BROKEN_LADDERheh..i alwsay thought your nick was nanolith.02:49
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BROKEN_LADDERnever actually read it.02:49
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: superkaramba is to KDE what gdesklets are to gnome02:49
BROKEN_LADDERoh.02:49
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calamariThe_Vox: I guess the trash can is keeping it buys, because there was a trash directory and it must have loaded when I mounted it02:49
zenlunaticnalioth, does gdesklets stand for gay?02:49
JDahlugo, I will be around, but I dont have the AFS builds handy, so not sure how helpful I'll be02:49
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth how did you know i'm using kde?02:49
zwnjhi there.  what's the situation of hoary-backport and hoary-extras?  what's your opinion on turning them on?02:49
calamarimaybe I can delete the trash directory02:49
kbrookszenlunatic, no02:49
darkwindbob2 darkwind: the default sources.list is fine <== us.archive.ubuntu.com still alive ??02:50
bob2darkwind: no, then change that02:50
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naliothzenlunatic: i have no clue, no, yes, maybe <swish>02:50
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: KDE apps work under gnome and vice versa02:50
desrtzwnj; they seem fairly good quality these days02:50
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth i know this.02:50
darkwinddoh02:50
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naliothBROKEN_LADDER: i've been dispatching cab drivers for 12 hours already today (on-the-job-training)02:51
darkwindchange too ?02:51
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: i'm doin good to type in english here02:51
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darkwindwhat mirror bob ?02:51
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BROKEN_LADDERnalioth lol.02:51
JDahlugo, AFS is such a great technology... a pity it's so cumbersome to build and configure02:52
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funkyHatis it possible to get gaim to blink the taskbar under gnome? (like it does in KDE)02:52
zwnjdesrt: and it's firefox update and deprecating mozilla-firefox?02:52
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D1it will be in gnome 2.1202:52
zenlunaticbreezy will be gnome 2.10 still correct?02:52
D1not as far as I know.02:53
light_punch2anyone know  if grub can do something like "lilo -R distro2"?02:53
zenlunaticfunkyHat, that feature would be annoying02:53
zenlunaticfunkyHat, i just have an audio bell to alert me of new msgs02:53
funkyHatbut is it possible?02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, im sure its technically possible02:54
zenlunaticfunkyHat, just hasn't been done yet02:54
funkyHatheh, ok02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, probably not a priority for developers02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, you could implement it yourself02:55
funkyHati guess not02:55
ugoyeah we use it all over our campus02:55
bob2funkyHat: you could file a wishlist bug if you feel it's important02:55
ugoi learnt how it works internally last semester02:55
bob2funkyHat: bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:55
ugovery very well thought out...02:55
funkyHatthanks :)02:55
benplautfunkyHat: look on Ubuntu Forums, someone figured out how to do it02:55
benplauti have it, and it works great02:56
kbrooksbenplaut, url?02:56
benplautlooking02:56
benplauthere you go:02:57
benplauthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3977602:57
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mdkei can't get my breezy packages. getting connection refused from the archives? anyone know what might be causing this?02:57
funkyHatbrilliant :D, thanks02:57
naliothmdke: its happening across the board, not just you02:57
funkyHatmdke, i've had a few problems with hoary during the day02:58
mdkehmm02:58
mdkei see thanks nalioth, funkyHat02:58
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Amaranthhmm, !lock02:59
Amaranthubotu: help lock02:59
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phillipcI just unmoutned my ipod, but it hasn't been ejected afaik. The screen on the ipod still says do not disconnect. I unmounted it by right clicking the icon on the desktop and selecting umount. How can I now eject it? It doesn't exist in media03:00
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Amaranthcafuego: does this mean i have more control over the bot now?03:01
robotgee1!humor03:01
uboturobotgee1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:01
Amaranthphillipc: ouch03:01
robotgee1Amaranth: not exactly the best reaction on a help forum. lol!03:02
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Amaranthhaha, someone was telling me off for telling them something was illegal while having a link to PyMusique in my sig03:03
Viddygotta hate that middle mouse buttont03:03
Viddyhn03:03
Viddy03:03
Amaranth(I wrote it)03:03
robotgee1Amaranth: pymusique??03:04
Amaranthyeah03:04
chaps0063has anyone gotten WPA-PSK working, with using default drivers (no ndiswrapper_03:04
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robotgee1i thought that was dvd jon. wait...03:05
funkyHatbenplaut, thanks :D it looks great too03:05
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darkwinddoes kiosk for kde work fine on gnome ??03:05
robotgee1Amaranth: so, ur dvd jon?03:05
Amaranthno03:06
robotgee1Amaranth: so, u wrote it with him or he's just linked to you??03:06
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AmaranthHe did registration, the initial code breaking, and the iTunes 4.7 code breaking.03:07
AmaranthI wrote the GUI and such.03:07
kbrooks?03:07
AmaranthFiguring out how iTunes talks to the server.03:07
naliothAmaranth: dont be so modest, tell us the truth, LOL03:07
AmaranthThat's what he did.03:07
robotgee1Amaranth: cool, havent used it yet. Still havent bought an song from intunes!03:07
AmaranthWell, if we go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back...03:08
AmaranthMe and Cody wrote PHPTunes which was mostly me. He did the connection to the server, I did the XML parsing and rendering and such.03:08
robotgee1okie...03:09
AmaranthCody ported the core of that to Python, I took over the project, added twisted and a GUI, and then jlj added his stuff.03:09
Amaranthso yeah, it's complicated03:09
robotgee1i think we should add this information to the wikipedia page on pymusique :)03:09
Amaranthgo ahead03:09
syndbbl03:10
Amaranthdo something to make my wikipedia page seem less worthless too :P03:10
naliothcome on Amaranth tell us who you REALLY are.... lol03:10
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robotgee1lol!03:10
Amaranthhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Watkins03:10
Amaranththat guy03:10
robotgee1a wordpress blog!03:11
Amaranthyes...03:11
naliothy'all wanna know something sad...?03:11
robotgee1i use wp too, it's very nice :)03:12
robotgee1go ahead03:12
naliothi joined the army in 198603:12
Amaranthhaha03:12
Amaranthold geezer03:12
glickhehe im gonna ride the bull tonight!03:13
naliothwatch yer mouth, sonny! lolol03:13
glicklol03:13
robotgee1so, where's the sad part?03:13
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Amaranthrobotgee1: I was born in 198603:14
robotgee1okie..me 8203:14
Amaranthubotu: smeg03:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:14
Amaranthsomeone try to change that03:14
Amarantha non-op03:14
Amaranthtype 'ubotu: no, smeg is foo'03:14
chghInstalling ubuntu-desktop freezes at setting up ttf-opensymbol. It says Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file, and stops... any ideas?03:14
Kyralubotu: no, smeg is foo03:15
ubotuKyral: okay03:15
naliothsmeg is already something else03:15
naliothAmaranth: is that what you wanted to see?03:15
Amaranthchgh: This is happening on the hoary install cd?03:15
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Amaranth!smeg03:15
ubotuhmm... smeg is foo03:15
darkwind!backports03:15
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!03:15
Amaranthdoh, it didn't lock03:15
KyralI feel very powerful right now03:15
chghyeah... for powerpc... I'm installing on a powermac g303:15
Amaranthubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:15
ubotuokay, Amaranth03:15
Amaranth!lock smeg03:15
ubotulocking factoid smeg, Amaranth03:15
Kyralshall I try again?03:16
Amaranthsure03:16
Kyralubotu: no, smeg is foo03:16
ubotuokay, Kyral03:16
awb4422is anyone getting really really slow speeds from us.archive.ubuntu.com servers?03:16
Amaranthgrr03:16
Amaranthcafuego: !!!03:16
Amaranth!smeg03:16
ubotusmeg is, like, foo03:16
Kyral!smeg03:16
Amaranthubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:16
ubotuokay, Amaranth03:16
Amaranthok, stop now03:16
KyralYep03:16
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ugoawb4422: same thing here03:16
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jagocan any one tell me a good gui to use for my firewall03:17
ugotry firestarter03:17
anto9usjago: firestarter03:17
jagothank you03:17
ugoapt-get install firestarter...its pretty basic03:17
glickhas anyone know what "riding the bull" is?03:18
glicklol03:18
glyphI've got a fancy "internet" keyboard with lots of extra keys03:18
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glyphI'd like to make them do things03:19
glyphbut only some of them are visible to X (using xev)03:19
glyphall of them show up fine on the console (using showkeys)03:19
naliothjago: try this: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13003:19
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Amaranthall i know about X keyboard mapping is the developers say it sucks03:19
glyphwhat configuration do I need to diddle to make X recognize them as valid scancodes, even if there are no associated keysyms?03:19
glyphAmaranth: I know enough to know that :)03:20
glyphAmaranth: I don't think this is even mapping, though.  I think that I have to say something other than 'pc104' in my xorg.conf, but I have no idea what my options are.03:20
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jagothank again03:21
chghalso, Amaranth... it didn't stop with an apt error, it just hasn't processed any more03:21
Amarantheh?03:22
robotgee1Amaranth: i've done my bit to make you a little more famous :)03:22
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chghnevermind I guess03:23
chghI'll bbl...03:23
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Amaranthrobotgee1: err03:23
Amaranthrobotgee1: show me?03:23
virgule!bug report03:23
ubotuvirgule: I give up, what is it?03:23
virgule!bugreport03:24
robotgee1your wikipedia page :)03:24
ubotuWish i knew, virgule03:24
naliothrobotgee1: you didnt spend $500,000 for a half-page in the New York Times, did you?03:24
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d-manhello03:24
d-mani cannot get wine to work03:24
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d-mancan someone point out the command after i get the packages from synaptic03:24
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d-manhello03:25
d-mananyone here know how to get wine working in ubuntu03:25
robotgee1i was gonna add all the nice info u gave me, but first i need to figure out the command to scroll up in irssi :)03:25
Amaranthd-man: get winesetuptk03:26
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d-mani did03:26
Amaranthrun it03:26
naliothrobotgee1:  ctrl-p for up and ctrl-n for down03:26
d-manand i did wine winesetuptk03:26
Amaranthno03:26
d-manand i got an error03:26
Amaranthwinesetuptk03:26
d-manjust that03:26
AmaranthYeah.03:26
d-manit said bad command03:26
Amaranth...03:26
AmaranthOk, run 'wine'.03:26
d-mani did wine -winesetuptk and it started03:27
d-manbut it came with an error03:27
AmaranthRun 'wine' and click the 'Configure wine' button on the little dialog that comes up.03:27
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robotgee1i have the logs, will add some more in a bit :)03:27
d-manhmm03:27
cafuegoyay, /me is in the 'host pool.ntp.org' rotation :-)03:27
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d-mani will try03:27
LinuxJonesd-man, maybe this will help >> http://www.winehq.com/site/howto03:28
knowledge_of course I reinstalled everything03:28
d-mani am on windoze right now03:28
d-mani read that03:28
knowledge_it only makes sense03:28
ugogcc4 issue here03:28
anto9usglyph: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys03:28
darkwindguy's how to open *.mdb files ??03:28
ugo warning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list03:28
bob2darkwind: you boot into windows and run Access03:28
d-manwhat is the best password manager for linux?03:28
darkwinddoh03:28
virguleI have a problem with fvwm95 there is no font at all. I can click the buttom (start menu?)and right-click the background but all I get is a beige rectangle with no text. I can highlight items.. what should I do ?03:28
darkwindi don't wanna back to M$03:29
ugohey does anyone know what this kind of gcc problem signifies03:29
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anto9usdarkwind: install mdbtools from universe03:29
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knowledge_Yaar helped me with a command to get my fan control to work...because when I launch the program it says can't find /proc/i8k03:29
darkwindty03:29
knowledge_anyone know?03:29
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OddAbe19Hmmm... i need dual monitor help03:29
OddAbe19who knows about dual monitors on nvidia cards03:29
knowledge_grep | something something03:29
chaps0063I have apache installed, but its not processing php files, any help?03:30
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darkwind!archive03:30
ubotudarkwind: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:30
darkwind!mirror03:30
ubotudarkwind: I don't know, could you explain it?03:30
bob2chaps0063: you mean apache2, right?03:30
bob2darkwind: yo ucan /msg the bot, you know03:30
LinuxJonesdark, doesn't Open Office work with those files ?03:30
anto9usdarkwind: mdbtools-gmdb has a nice gui03:30
bob2OddAbe19: best to just ask your question03:30
darkwindi'm stiill on apt-get update now03:31
LinuxJoneserr, darkwind  ^^03:31
virgule!mol03:31
ubotuhmm... mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help03:31
glyphOddAbe19: I might know something03:31
glyphOddAbe19: what do you want to know03:31
OddAbe19well, I have one monitor on DVI ->VGA (CRT) and another on the VGA part of the card (CRT)03:31
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chaps0063bob2: no.03:31
knowledge_no one knows how to add i8k to /proc?03:32
OddAbe19i need to know how to make it work, right now the DVI monitor works in GDM, and the other only works in CLI mode03:32
bob2chaps0063: apache isn't part of ubuntu's supported section03:32
OddAbe19lol03:32
OddAbe19i only have one in my xorg.conf03:32
chaps0063bob2: ok.03:32
bob2chaps0063: and did you install libapache-mod-php4 and read it's README.Debian?03:32
OddAbe19i'd like it side by side03:32
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glyphOddAbe19: Are you using the proprieitary Nvidia driver?03:32
ugosomeone was asking about mdb files on linux03:32
ugostill need help?03:32
OddAbe19yeah, 766703:33
glyphOddAbe19: okay, it's easy then03:33
glyphOddAbe19: read up on the TwinView option03:33
OddAbe19and twinview is too confusing03:33
OddAbe19lol03:33
glyphOddAbe19: TwinView is super easy03:33
OddAbe19here, PM me03:33
OddAbe19so i can talk to you03:33
OddAbe19and not hold up the channel03:33
glyphOddAbe19: here, I'll /msg you the appropriate contents of my XF86Config03:33
glypherm I mean xorg.conf03:33
ugoso...gcc4 issue here03:33
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ugois there a developer ubuntu channel?03:34
Amaranthugo: You mean code that sucks issue.03:34
ugosure Armanath....03:34
Amaranthugo: gcc4 fails to compile bad programs, gcc3 didn't :)03:34
AmaranthWhat's the problem?03:34
chaps0063bob2: ok, so I removed everything, what do I need to apt-get install?03:34
benplautWHY, oh WHY can't ubuntu have the newest version of wireless-tools03:34
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ugohere....im trying to compile openafs on x86_6403:34
benplautmy pet peeve X 0987240503:34
bob2chaps0063: what do you want to install?03:35
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ugohere's the error im getting03:35
chaps0063bob2: apache.03:35
bob2benplaut: because hoary was frozen 6 months ago03:35
sfvtugo: #ubuntu-devel03:35
chaps0063apache, php, mysql03:35
knowledge_anyone know anything about i8kutils?03:35
bob2chaps0063: which version?03:35
chaps0063apache2 preferably.03:35
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ugowarning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list03:35
Amaranththis is not a question for the developers03:35
bob2chaps0063: sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php403:35
Amaranthyeah, that's because gcc4 is stricter03:35
darkwindguy's change this id.archive.ubuntu.com03:35
ugoyeah i know its not for the devels03:35
darkwindit's work :)03:35
Amaranthtell the openafs guys to fix their code03:35
bob2chaps0063: if by "mysql" you mean "mysql server", then mysql-server is the package you want03:35
bob2chaps0063: if you mean the php4 mysql stuff, then php4-mysql03:36
anto9usknowledge_: it's designed for Dell Inspirons, controlls throttling of processer and fan speed03:36
ugoi just need someone with sufficient gcc knowlege to tell me what i could change03:36
Amaranthugo: Probably lots of things.03:36
benplautbob2: i was told that becuase the latest version isn't considered stable (and development, AFAIK, has stopped), it _won't_ be implimented, in breezy either03:36
Amaranthugo: Usually invalid code errors come in swarms.03:36
chaps0063bob2: and after that, will apache start?03:36
ugowell...better to start hacking at it in someway03:36
bob2benplaut: take it over then03:36
bob2chaps0063: of course03:37
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ugook...still03:37
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benplautbob2: for those of us who aren't programmers...03:37
ugoif i could get openafs or arla working my life is complete till monday03:37
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benplauti'm still on the endless search for how to successfully compile03:37
chaps0063bob2: when I http://localhost it says connection refused03:37
JDahlugo, I might try to compile it on an x86 later tonight; I will need to figure it out with the next few months anyway03:37
ray_does anybody know how i can print to a windows shared printer through a router using KDE..... i did it using gnome03:37
benplautsorry... i'm just ranting03:37
knowledge_anto9us, I know, I just installed it, but it's not working right, I need to add /proc/i8k by doing grep | something03:37
knowledge_I forgot what the command is03:37
bob2ray_: try #kubuntu03:38
knowledge_Yaaar had told me it yesterday03:38
ray_bob2: i did03:38
ugook....03:38
JDahlugo, except I run Hoary03:38
bob2benplaut: there's not much anyone can do then...unless someone wants to take it over03:38
ray_bob2: its dead over there03:38
bob2chaps0063: so, what's the first thing you do when a daemon doesn't work?  check the logs!03:38
ugoyeah...ive been thinking of making that switch03:38
bob2chaps0063: /var/log/apache2/error.log03:38
chaps0063bob2: fairly new to linux..03:38
chaps0063bob2: empty.03:38
JDahlbob2, I thought you powercycled your box??03:38
gyaresuJDahl, that's windows.03:39
bob2JDahl: this isn't hp-ux!03:39
ugoubuntu's nice but once the easy install and cute gui wears off..you get to see where there's a lot of work still left....more power to the ppl anyways03:39
naliothJDahl: linux need not ever be rebooted (as long as you are happy with it)03:39
bob2chaps0063: paste the output of "dpkg -l apache2 | tail -n1" here03:39
bob2ugo: for e xample?03:39
anto9usknowledge_: maybe this will help http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/00-README03:40
JDahlugo, isnt your grief more with Linux in general?03:40
chaps0063ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se03:40
ugo*ducks*03:40
ugook....here come the fanboys....03:40
bob2chaps0063: and now 'ps aux | grep -c www-data'03:40
chaps0063103:41
bob2ugo: no, if you have actual gripes, please file bugs so they can be fixed.  just ranting on irc is pointless03:41
HurricanePinkHuh... How do I make the icon for my mounted windows partition not show up on the desktop? :303:41
JDahlugo, not at all... just things like AFS issues are not Canonical's fault03:41
bob2you're more or less trolling03:41
anto9usHurricanePink: unmount it03:41
ugonah no ranting dude....03:41
bob2ugo: then which issues in particular are you concerned about?03:41
gyaresu!bugs03:41
ugoif thats how this was percieved...i apologize03:41
knowledge_anto9us, nope...doesn't have that command in there03:42
chaps0063bob2: ps aux | grep -c www-data - - > 103:42
bob2chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?03:42
ugoi had some problems working connecting to this obscure printer on my campus03:42
chaps0063ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se\03:42
chaps0063err, no \03:42
HurricanePinkIt wasn't on the desktop -before-... :303:42
gyaresusomeone killed ubotu?03:42
bob2ugo: what sort of printer is it?  which protocol doe it use?03:42
ugothey run an lpr queue....and gave us the details to connect to it03:42
robotgee1from what i've seen, things have really really improved on the linux front...i havent been forced to use OS X for abouut a month now03:42
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HurricanePinkI've always wanted to try OS X. Heh.03:43
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ugofor some reason i couldnt get duplex printing to work03:43
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knowledge_insmod -f i8k.o <----how would I use that command?03:43
chaps0063bob2: ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se03:43
ugoits a laserjet-815003:43
wartyI'm looking for the tty command for connecting to a serial device (i.e. a Cisco switch)03:43
seanmc42wussup, bitches?03:43
bob2chaps0063: you really typed the exact command I gave you?03:43
bob2knowledge_: you wouldn't03:43
bob2seanmc42: language please03:43
chaps0063bob2: yes.03:43
seanmc42my bsd03:43
seanmc42bad03:43
ugoit started working all of a sudden....i dont remember doing anything with the config unfort :-03:43
knowledge_bob2, I wouldn't use that?03:44
bob2chaps0063: with no '2'?03:44
bob2knowledge_: because that module exists on disk already.  sudo modprobe i8k.03:44
knowledge_THAT'S IT!03:44
knowledge_you're the sh.......mann03:44
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chaps0063bob2: when it is without 2 - rc apache 1.3.33-4 verstaile, high-performance HTTP server03:45
bob2chaps0063: that's what I asked for, thanks03:45
knowledge_thanks a lot bob203:45
bob2chaps0063: how about 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80'?03:45
chaps0063bob2: sorry, you said with the two..03:45
chaps0063bob2: nothing.03:45
bob2chaps0063: 11:42:08 @         bob2 | chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?03:45
bob2chaps0063: how about 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start', then netstat again?03:46
chaps0063bob2: oh, sorry I pasted from before...my bad.03:46
ugook...i really hope i can get some useful info that could help with afs...03:46
chaps0063bob2: still nothing.03:46
bob2chaps0063: now look in the error log file again03:47
ugobut here's the stuff comming out of the compiler for an fyi....03:47
bob2please don't paste masses of gcc output here03:47
chaps0063still blank.03:47
bob2it's highly unlikely anyone here is an afs hacker03:47
ugoright...03:47
bob2if you have problems compiling it with gcc-4.0, you need to talk to upstream, or perhaps on the ubunut-devel mailing list03:47
ugook...03:47
chaps0063bob2: error.log still blank03:48
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virgule!afs03:49
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, virgule03:49
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bob2chaps0063: what about if you run 'sudo apache2', then netstat?03:50
chaps0063tcp6   0   0 :::80    ::::*    LISTEN 15635/apache203:50
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bob2rock03:51
bob2hrm03:51
chaps0063paper?03:51
chaps0063lol.03:51
bob2is that all it prints?03:51
chaps0063oh you mean for netstat..03:51
chaps0063I did netstat -plnt | grep 8003:51
bob2ah, tcp6 implies tcp03:51
bob2that's cool03:51
bob2but why does the init script not work03:51
bob2chaps0063: sudo pkill apache203:52
chaps0063bob2: done.03:52
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bob2chaps0063: now try 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop ; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start'03:52
chaps0063bob2: it stopped it but didn't start it.03:53
bob2did it print anything?03:53
virgulethere is a fairly annoying bug in fluxbox i am clueless where to go please advice03:53
chaps0063bob2: not after start..03:53
robotgee1virgule: what is it?03:53
virgulethe 'system tray' can only take one icon at all03:54
virguleright now it show kmail icon but if I open liferea it gets overriden by the new icon03:54
Madpilotevening, all03:55
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robotgee1virgule: i've moved to openbox03:55
virgulehow is it?03:56
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robotgee1it's pretty good,i am using it under gnome...03:56
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virguleyou mean i can run a wm in a wm?03:56
Madpilothow do I unpackage a .gz file that's owned by root?03:56
kevin_hopefully that's the last time I get unplugged tonight lol03:56
robotgee1virgule: it replaces metacity03:56
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virgulesudo tar balh balh03:57
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bob2virgule: gnome isn't a window manager...it's window manager, metacity, can be replaced.03:57
robotgee1sudo gunzip <blah>03:57
bob2Madpilot: chown it to the user03:57
virguledoh me03:57
Amaranthvirgule: GNOME is a Desktop Environment, it's a bunch of things including a wm all brought together as one cohesive unit03:57
OddAbe19glyph, it kinda works, the left screen shows login, then when Gnome comes up, the right screens has it, but the left screen is white03:57
chaps0063bob2: start printed nothing03:57
bob2chaps0063: hm, I don't know what could be the problem then, unless you've done something weird03:58
Amaranthyay, i used the right word03:58
chaps0063bob2: like?03:58
Madpilotthnx, all. I don't need to own the directory - it's in /usr/share/... just unpack this one file.03:58
Amaranthstupid vocabulary, i just spit random words out03:58
bob2chaps0063: what have you done?03:58
naringashello03:58
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hondjecat /dev/random03:58
chaps0063bob2: nothing stupid that I know of.03:58
naringasi have this strange problem03:59
bob2Madpilot: then 'zcat /usr/share/blah.gz > ~/blah' is probably what you want03:59
scorpixif i install windows xp in another partition, do i have to reinstall grub or do any configurations for the boot loader?03:59
benplautare these packages safe (do you think?)03:59
naringassome special url in nautilus don't work03:59
benplauthttp://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireless-tools/03:59
OddAbe19glyph, anyhelp?03:59
naliothnaringas: i don't think nautilus is a web browser03:59
chaps0063bob2: I did have apache 1.33 working..03:59
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Servo888Hey what package provides x11 headers? I've got xorg-common and xserver-xorg04:00
naringasi mean special uri like start-here:///04:00
blastmanumais o trouver des fichier .torrent parce qu'il n'y a pas de moteur de recherche comme dans les autres p2p?04:00
KyralKyral says the AMD is still around04:00
sularus76I am new to ubuntu. Where can I get programs for it? Does anyone know how load and where I can get an ICA client for ubuntu.?Thankyou.04:00
naliothblastmanu: si'l vous plait en #ubuntu-fr04:00
naringasor preferences:/// or applications:///, however themes:/// does work04:00
blastmanusorry04:00
seanmc42try the synaptic app04:00
naringasso does smb:///04:00
seanmc42from the cmd line04:00
OddAbe19can anyone help me with dual monitors?04:00
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keikozdo somebody can help me on a kernel-compilation pbl ? i need to compile the generic kernel, but i receive a lot of errors04:01
kevin_OddAbe:.........not me Ubuntu dummy here, I am just proud that I got my wireless working in it lol04:01
bob2keikoz: why do you need to compile a kernel?04:01
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virguledamn the right-click menu is killing me.. is there a way to make it stop blasting itself around like that!!04:02
keikozbob2 cause i have a not recognized controller; only way is the -ac patch04:02
robotgee1kevin_: good04:02
sizzamhow do USB 2.0 external hard drives compare to IDE or SATA drives speedwise?04:02
bob2ouch04:02
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keikozit is a ide/radi controller04:02
keikozraid*04:02
cafuegokeikoz: Are you running it in raid mode?04:02
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keikozno, in ide mode, but anyway it isnt recognized without that patch04:02
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JDahlsizzam, I get around 11Mbytes/sec transfer to my usb harddisk04:03
Computer__Gurui want a very clean, modernized theme for kde..04:03
sizzamJDahl:  what kind of speeds would you say you get to your IDE?04:03
JDahlsizzam, probably 50-60Mbytes/sec04:04
sularus76sata 3GB transfers04:04
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gyaresuquestion: the /usr/local/games folder has the group 'staff' my user isn't a member of 'staff' and can't save games configs/settings. Is that a bug?04:04
sizzamcool, thanks for the info04:04
dylan_is there an itunes alternative for linux?04:04
keikozif somebody want to see the errors (sorry it's a french post) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=834604:04
naringasdylan_: amarok?04:04
cafuegogyaresu: usr/local isn't normally ubuntu stuff, so not an ubuntu bug.04:04
bob2gyaresu: all of /usr/local/ is owned by staff04:04
keikozthat's what happens with the kernel i compiled04:04
kevin_<-- even got the xfce4 running with no problems lol, I may stick with Ubntu if I could get more memory for this laptop04:05
sularus76where can I get a dtffrent desktop backround04:05
gyaresubob2, Can you recommend the prefered Ubuntu place for installing games. (or do i just export paths and such?)04:05
dapimp53I need some help with my wireless connection. I currently have a WPA key on the wireless network. I can get it to work with WEP but the rest of the computers seem to loose internt connection. How do I configure my wireless connection with my WPA key04:05
gyaresucafuego, thanks.04:06
bob2gyaresu: I'd just chgrp that dir to be owned by 'games'04:06
virgulehuhuh-- dpkg -p openbox | grep Version show 3.2-7 but openbox website say latest (stable) is 2.2.3. Dev. version is 2.3. So where is the 3.2-7 from??04:06
naringaswhy could start-here:/// don't work ?04:06
dylan_amarok doesnt let me buy music04:06
Computer__Guruhow does openbox look?04:06
gyaresubob2, thanks.04:06
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cafuegodylan_: they payware sites in say iTunes use proprietary encryption, so Linux can never legally support those.04:07
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kamstrumentalare there any better resources than art.gnome.org for gnome themes?04:07
virgulepretty empty - all I have is this right-click menu..04:07
nickrudI think start-here (spelling?) was depreciated a gnome revision or two ago04:07
naliothkamstrumental: www.deviantart.com, gnome-look.com04:08
keikoznobody can help me then ? :(04:08
naringasnickrud: it's in the docs04:08
naringasi can't acces preferences:/// nor applications:///04:09
naringasneither04:09
virguleI think I prefer fluxbox04:09
ugohi04:09
keikozanother way could be to integrate the -ac patch in the ubuntu kernel, but i dont know how to do it04:09
blmartin777what is a good gnome based frontend for mldonkey?04:10
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nickrudnaringas, if a lot of the docs are for gnome 2.6 (according to yelp)04:10
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kamstrumentalnalioth: thanks alot!04:11
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naliothkamstrumental: np04:11
virgule...and I don't have a ~/.openbox/ directory04:11
naringasthac could be it, sad04:11
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jcarris the default bittorrent download client that comes with ubuntu 5.04 broken?04:11
Madpilotkamstrumental, nalioth: it's http://www.gnome-look.org/ actually, not .com!04:12
jcarrI keep trying to download stuff.... the downloads NEVER begin04:12
naliothjcarr: no, it just suX0rs04:12
jcarron 10 seperate torrent from 10 seperate trackers for ten seperate things04:12
naliothjcarr: are you open to the internet?04:12
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nickrudgetting people to do docs as volunteers is hard, from what I've seen.04:12
naringasthen, how can I edit the applications menu?04:12
naliothnaringas: smeg04:12
jcarrNakkel, no I'm not... I am on irc by using my advanced telepathy ... :(04:13
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Amaranthoh, you said smeg04:13
jcarrnalioth I mean04:13
Amaranthyou know, since i started making xchat beep on 'smeg' i've not gotten anything done04:13
jcarrbah... .what's the name for the python based bittorrent download gui04:14
naliothjcarr: bt clients need to be 'connectable' (not behind a firewall)04:14
JDahlnickrud, IMO developers should be forced to do their own documentation - they write better code that way (at least that goes for myself)04:14
jcarrI used it on debian... never had a problem04:14
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nickrudforce, lol04:14
naliothAmaranth: well, waht do you expect?04:14
jcarrnalioth, that cannot be the case... it worked fine on other distros and I have a static IP04:14
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jcarrit is not public though04:14
jcarrit's an internal ip04:14
Amaranthjcarr: 'bittorrent'04:14
nickrudWhen I got paid, I did docs, when I didn't, I didn't :)04:14
Amaranththe official bittorrent client is written in python04:14
jcarrAmaranth, whatever04:14
naliothjcarr: use the official 4.0 bt from the bt homepage04:15
Amaranthno, i was saying the name04:15
jcarroh04:15
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cafuegosmeg is a kind of stove!04:15
paxwhat's smeg anyway?04:16
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Amaranthprobably04:16
smegthanks04:16
naringasdoes applications:/// still exists in gnome 2.1004:16
naliothjcarr: or azurerus if you have extra cpu cycles to sacrifice to the processor-sucking-demon-Java04:16
Amaranthpax: Simple Menu Editor for GNOME04:16
Amaranthnaringas: no04:16
Amaranthsmeg: wtf04:16
desrtnaringas; no.  replaced with gnome-menus04:16
kamstrumentalMadpilot: thanks ;)04:16
smegnalioth, well, I do alot of java dev04:16
smegand as a result, I have a lot of java based apps04:16
smeganother one won't hurt04:16
paxumm maybe I should ask about smeg when you're not around04:16
Madpilotkamstrumental: np.04:17
naringasI'm usually a kde kind of user04:17
Amaranthpax: Good luck with that. :)04:17
smegit only sucks resources on one JVM invocation... multiple apps only use one JVM invocation04:17
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naliothjcarr: i unfortunately am on a G3/600 iBook, and azureus was killed after trying to load for over 12 hours04:17
kevin_on xfce4, how do I add buttons or something so I can access other programs?04:17
Computer__Gur1wonder if that was lag or just some weird net thing04:17
cafuegonalioth: Which jvm you using?04:18
=== naringas is puzzled by gnome
paxbut seriously, I have gnome-desktop installed but smeg is nowhere to be found, doest it come packed with gnome?04:18
kiwiHi, I'm trying to mount a newly formatted ext3 partition.  But even though I set the options as default, the mounted folder is still read-only...04:18
kiwiIs there anything I seem to do wrong?04:18
bob2pax: nope04:18
bob2it's not even in hoary at all04:19
paxah ok.04:19
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naliothcafuego: the one i had to give my soul to IBM for (their iseries jre)04:19
cafuegonalioth: I've previously been using the IBM jvm on ppc, and had good results with it.04:19
bob2kiwi: once you've mounted it, the root of the mount point is ro?04:19
paxbob2: smeg must suck then ::looks at Amaranth:: :p04:19
naliothAmaranth: tell pax where to get s m e g, please04:19
nickrudout of curiosity, will there be an official ubuntu menu editor in breezy?04:19
Amaranth!smeg04:19
ubotuhmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:19
Amaranthpax: They don't think an editor like smeg is needed, appearently.04:19
Amaranthpax: Plus I never proposed it.04:19
naliothnickrud: yes, s m e g04:19
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=== cafuego needs more coffee
nickrudheh04:20
Amaranthcafuego: I can't lock things.04:20
kiwibob2: How could I check that?04:20
=== Computer__Guru is stoned
bob2mm, coffee04:20
HurricanePinkSo I've got DVDs playing in Xine now... but the picture output looks a little strange. o.O04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: do you have a key?04:20
bob2kiwi: ls -ld /where/you/mounted/it/04:20
Amaranthhaha04:20
Amaranth!lock smeg04:20
Velcanhow can i change my mouse so that left+right click != middle click04:20
knowledge_guys...I'm installing the updates...and it's saying "configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386" for a long time04:20
knowledge_how long does that take?04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: Are you identified?04:20
Amaranthoh, you locked it04:20
smegNICE.... I'm leechin all kinds a shit offa bt now :)04:20
smegthanks04:20
Amaranthi thought we needed dcc for that04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: Yes, i saw you struggling ;-)04:20
smegI'll have Sin City DVD by tomorrow :004:20
naringasgnome is strange04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: no, /m bot identify <pass>04:21
Amaranthsmeg: Can you change your nick please? That's going to get confusing.04:21
LinuxJonesAmaranth, smeg is definately needed what could they be thinking that users are going to edit text files by hand ?04:21
Computer__Gurui converted the three disc svcd to dvd myself :D04:21
cafuegoAmaranth: dcc is only for chatline command (like die, rehash, etc)04:21
smegLinuxJones, I am needed04:21
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Computer__Guruavidemux is your friend04:21
smegthanks!04:21
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Amaranthcafuego: I forgot my password. :)04:21
kiwibob2: read-write by root, read-only by users/group04:21
LinuxJonesheh04:21
smegj/k about the leeching stuff btw04:21
neuronlapseHi, how can I unlock my /dev/ttyS0 cable in ubuntu?04:21
bob2kiwi: cool, that's normal04:21
Amaranthsmeg: Please?04:21
neuronlapseI checked with fuser and no apps are using it04:21
cafuegoubotu: lobotomy04:21
ubotucafuego: No idea04:21
smegsigh04:21
smegokay04:21
bob2kiwi: if you want to change the permissions, use chmod04:21
cafuegotypical04:21
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JDahlugo, what architecture do you use when you compile for AMD 64bit? Openafs has support for lots of i386_xxx, but for 64bit you only seem to have sparc, alpha, ia6404:21
naliothjcarr, sure you were kidding, you pirate! lol04:22
=== Amaranth will fix it for good
kiwiOk, thanks. =D04:22
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Amaranth:D04:22
naringasso, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNOME is the way to edit the applications menu in gnome 2.1004:22
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bob2er04:22
bob2that seems a tad excessive04:22
nickrudneuronlapse, take a look in /var/lock04:22
HurricanePinkThe DVD image looks all... uh... liney.04:22
Computer__Guruwtf is +q?04:22
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Amaranthbob2: I'll get rid of it in a bit.04:22
HurricanePinkLike interlaced or whatever it is. ^^;04:22
jcarrnalioth, "ARGH!!! Shimber me tembers!!! I must unload these leet warez at the nearest ftp!"04:22
naliothComputer__Guru: mute the user it's placed on04:22
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bob2Computer__Guru: like +b, but they can join still.  ie it "quiets" them04:22
neuronlapsenickrud: already tried, just lvm in there04:22
Amaranthnaringas: yeah04:22
Computer__Guruhahaha04:22
jcarr*timbers04:23
Computer__Gururight on04:23
Computer__Gurucan they change nicks?04:23
ugoJDahl: there's apparently a hidden configure option04:23
naringasso, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNU is Not Unix Network Object Model Environment is the way to edit the applications menu04:23
nickrudneuronlapse, that's the only place I've seen a ttys0 lock, so ...04:23
bob2Computer__Guru: think so04:23
neuronlapsebooo :(04:23
Computer__Gurulike if you +q me can i change my nick to YouSuck04:23
neuronlapseheh04:23
Amaranthhaha04:23
knowledge_so anyone know how long that usually takes?04:23
Amaranthnaringas: That's nothing, expand PHP-GTK.04:23
Velcanam i right in thinking the line 'Option"Emulate3Buttons""false" ' will be my solution?04:23
neuronlapsei'm using pppd over serial with my phone as a modem04:23
knowledge_"configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386"04:23
Velcanin the xorg.conf04:23
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nickrudneuronlapse, yes, I assumed so, that's where my lock shows up04:24
AmaranthVelcan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:24
neuronlapsettyS0 was working but when i killed off pppd i think it got locked04:24
=== naringas stands amazed
bob2knowledge_: go make a cup of tea04:24
ugoJDahl: amd64_linux2404:24
marshi.have.a.roblem...after.cutomizing.keyboard.hortcut.i've.lotload.of.letter04:24
AmaranthVelcan: tell it to not emulate 3 buttons04:24
jcarrheh... "warez" the warez, d00dz? :P04:24
Computer__Gurucause i know if you're banned on a channel you cant change your nick if it will affect the ban04:24
Velcanthanks04:24
knowledge_bob2, Point very well taken04:24
JDahlugo, do you have kernel 2.4?04:24
blastmanuhi04:24
Amaranthmarsh: You can't hit the spacebar anymore? :)04:24
ugohey J how do i get the red?04:24
neuronlapsethanks anyway nickrud... a reboot might do the trick04:24
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marshno04:24
hoofhi04:24
Amaranthugo: like this?04:24
naliothComputer__Guru: knowledgable ops will ban you into a new ISP04:24
ugoyeah....?04:24
Amaranthmarsh: So uncustomize it. :)04:24
Computer__Gurumarsh:thatsgottareallysuck04:24
Amaranthugo: It happens when someone says your nick.04:25
blastmanuwhere is i found of files .torrent for testing bittorent please ?04:25
cafuegoComputer__Guru: notsbasyoumighthting04:25
ugougo04:25
hoofi just installed ubuntu yesterday...i was a fedora user...im still getting used to the ubuntu environment04:25
marshor.theonebetween.v&n.ortheonebetween.a&d04:25
ugougo hi04:25
cafuegougo: someone not you, normally.04:25
Computer__Gurunalioth: yeah i know, just making a point04:25
naliothblastmanu: legaltorrents.org04:25
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hoofso far, i find ubuntu to be better than fedora04:25
neuronlapsehoof: me too :)04:25
jcarrComputer__Guru, lol... I am banned from a certain efnet channel for life! They banned me back in 200104:25
ugooh ok....better to test on me....04:25
jcarrstill banned04:25
naringasPHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix04:25
neuronlapseI'm a gentoo user really, but I'm testing ubuntu for my gf04:25
marshAmaranth, Itried.and.have.but.te.key.till.don'twork04:25
cafuegonow about that coffee04:25
neuronlapseit's great for new linux users04:25
naringasPHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix ToolKit04:25
jcarrall it was over was typing too fast and the called it flooding04:25
Computer__Gurucafuego:iusedtotalklikethisjusttopisspeopleoffinglobopsondalnetallthetime04:25
jcarrnarlings: WRONG04:26
jcarrer, naringas04:26
ugoJDahl I have the 2.6.10-5 kernel04:26
Amaranthblastmanu: http://bt.etree.org/04:26
naringasehh!?04:26
neuronlapsei'm tempted to use it myself but gnome is too heavy on my laptop04:26
naringaswah?04:26
jcarrnaringas: gtk.php.net04:26
JDahlugo, and you remembered to specify different links to the kernel header files and kernel source?04:26
hoofi tried to compile kernel 2.6.12 but i got some errors...could any of you guys refer me to a site that will instruct me how to compile kernel 2.6.12 from within ubuntu?04:26
jcarrYOU HAVE IT WRONGF04:26
marshhow.can.i.re5et.defualt5?04:26
blastmanuok merci04:26
nickrudcelebese beans, freshly ground (tongue hanging out)04:26
blastmanuthanks04:26
ivan_qkanybody know how to init ubuntu without startx?04:26
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jcarrit is HIDDEOUSLY slow04:26
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: so install something like fluxbox or even better xfce04:26
jcarrI developed an app using it for the Zend PHP competition04:26
JDahlugo, amd64_linux24 would be for kernel 2.4... I think openafs is still considered beta, at best, for linux2.604:27
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: I thought ubuntu was totally dependent on gnome?04:27
neuronlapseI'm using fluxbox on this machine that I'm using now04:27
Computer__Guruthat reminds me i need to do a sysv init audit04:27
neuronlapse(in gentoo)04:27
marshtheyareallkey5.that.i.ut.in.a5.ctrl.5hft.[key] 04:27
AmaranthPHP-GTK == Personal Home Pages Hypertext Preprocessor GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program ToolKit04:27
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jcarrPHP-GTK is for those who feel that Java applets that use the older GUI library (that one before Swing) is too fast04:27
ugoJDahl no i specified the headers only04:27
LinuxJonesivan_qk, Ubuntu should give you the gdm login screen by default04:27
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: nope. i'm running kde, but i was setting up xfce yesterday04:27
ivan_qkyes04:27
ugoJDahl...right04:27
ivan_qki dont wanna that04:27
kiwiUm... will the access permissions be changed after reboot?04:27
imaekAccording to netstat, the package "ftpd" is actually inetd, and I can't get one specific user to be able to access their ftp04:27
ivan_qkhow i cant quit that?04:27
neuronlapseah, cool :)04:28
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ugoJDah: what about arla...?04:28
ivan_qkcan*04:28
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ugoJDahl: what about arla...?04:28
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: how would I go about getting rid of gnome and putting in fluxbox?04:28
LinuxJonesivan_qk, ok then sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove04:28
rob^when using Synaptic to add universe/multiverse repositories, are they already listed in synaptic on a default install or do you need to add them?04:28
naringasthe php i didn't know, the gtk i forgot04:28
Computer__Guruimaek: may i recommend proftpd or another replacement for standard ftpd (which, imho, blows)04:28
Amaranthjcarr: PHP-GTK isn't that slow04:28
ugoJDahl: is there any possibility in that direction04:28
tritiumrob^, universe is listed, but commented out.  multiverse must be added04:28
bob2rob^: you need to add them04:28
Amaranthjcarr: And version 2 uses GTK2 so it doesn't look like crap either.04:28
rob^thanks04:28
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: apt-get remove gnome-desktop && apt-get install fluxbox04:29
JDahlugo, compiling arla is not for the faint of heart... what happened when you tried to rebuild the i386 for amd64?04:29
ivan_qkthanks alot man04:29
ivan_qku are gret person :d04:29
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: what about all the gnome-dependent packages? :)04:29
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marsh5o .how.do.i.get.rid.of.problem?04:29
LinuxJonesivan_qk, why thank you very much :D04:29
Computer__Guruwell you don't HAVE to get rid of gnome, youknow04:29
jcarrAmaranth, yes, but... I just don't feel PHP-GTK is a step in the right direction. Perhaps one day it will be, but that day isn't today04:29
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neuronlapseI'd have to on my laptop04:30
Amaranthjcarr: I don't like it either. The right direction is PyGTK. :)04:30
neuronlapseway too heavy04:30
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: do this: apt-get install fluxbox, then log out of gnome, and at the gdm screen, choose session type, and change it to fluxbox04:30
ugoJDahl rerunning it now...just a sec04:30
marsh5hortcuts5.are.not.defined.for.the5e .keys04:30
jcarrI'm a Qt fan myself04:30
Amaranthmeh04:30
cafuegothe problem with pygtk is py.04:30
cafuegoand gtk04:30
jcarrI've only done QT work in C++ though04:30
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marshand.i.can.find.no.way.to.reset .them04:30
neuronlapseok point taken... thanks Computer__Guru, I'll try that out04:30
Computer__Gurulol@cafuegu04:30
Amaranthcafuego: heretic!04:30
naliothcafuego: so only the 'oink' works?04:30
Computer__Guruanytime04:30
marsh    hjkhsssdf04:31
neuronlapsecan I remove gdm too?04:31
JDahlugo, for i386 you can build a working version of openafs in an hour or two, if you follow the INSTALL guide line by line... but there's a lot of low-level kernel stuff that might not've been ported to AMD6404:31
neuronlapseand use qingy?04:31
kevin_got a dumb ?? what is fluxbox? totally new to linux lol04:31
tritiumnalioth, have you installed on your new iMac yet?04:31
marshshit - they just came back!04:31
Amaranthkevin_: You don't want it.04:31
cafuegoAmaranth: I have come to that considered opinion after doing some pygtk debugging.04:31
kevin_k04:31
naliothtritium: please dont get me started04:31
marshYipeeeee!!!!04:31
naliothPLEASE DONT04:31
ugoJDahl yeah...now since my kernel is x86_64.....?04:31
naliothheh04:31
Computer__Gurukevin_: it's a window manager like gnome or kde, but extremely lightweight and streamlined04:31
rob^also, by default, does the normal repos and universe repos point to archive.ubuntu.com or to the country you supplied during installation (in my case au.archive.ubuntu.com)04:31
tritiumnalioth, sorry, I never heard what happened..04:31
neuronlapseFluxbox is great04:31
JDahlugo, just making idle conversation04:31
ugoJDahl whats the best option...downgrade?04:31
marshbin like that since friday morning04:31
Amaranthfluxbox is not for Normal Users04:31
imaekComputer__Guru: Alright, I now have proftpd, but again I cannot access this specific user's FTP04:31
neuronlapsegnome's a desktop manager isn't it, technically?04:32
AmaranthDesktop Environment04:32
AmaranthIt includes a WM called metacity.04:32
cafuegoimaek: Check the ftp and/or auth logs.04:32
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neuronlapseyep that's it04:32
Computer__Guruimaek: okay, make sure proftpd is running from within inetd.conf, then make sure that your user is a member of the group ftp04:32
JDahlugo, give me a few to refresh my memory on ./configure for openafs... then you can try the same04:32
cafuegoimaek: Does that user have a valid shell?04:32
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neuronlapsefluxbox takes a lotta getting used to, but i like it04:32
ugoJDahl ok....appreciate your help04:32
Amaranthcafuego: PyGTK is preferred Ubuntu language/toolkit. :)04:32
ZeroXphello04:32
Amarantherr, is the04:33
kevin_ok, I am using xfce and I cannot get it to where I xna get to my menus or none of that. to use xchat I have to open a term and type xchat04:33
Computer__Gurui prefer xfce, it's faster than flux04:33
neuronlapsereally?04:33
ZeroXpaloooooooooo04:33
Computer__Guruof course, windowmaker is faster than both of them04:33
imaekcafuego: I don't know. How can I check?04:33
neuronlapseI've never tried it04:33
cafuegoAmaranth: Yes, I noticed. Doesn't mean it's not shit, though.04:33
ugoJDahl ok....i have arla here also it seems to have the same kind of errors04:33
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cafuegoimaek: Check /etc/shells04:33
Amaranthcafuego: What do you use?04:33
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: apt-get install xfce404:33
neuronlapsewhat about fvwm?04:33
Amaranthcafuego: btw, language04:33
cafuegoimaek: Make sure their shell is listed.04:33
ugoJDahl ok....and they both seem more gcc4 related04:33
zaudragonhelp!04:33
Computer__Gurudunno, havent used it in years04:33
neuronlapseso Computer_Guru, why do you prefer ubuntu over debian?04:33
cafuegoAmaranth: Dutch, germand and english.04:33
imaekcafuego: I don't know which shell is their shell04:33
Amaranthcafuego: haha, i meant watch your language :)04:34
cafuegoimaek: it's listed in /etc/passwd04:34
Amaranthcafuego: what do you use instead of pygtk?04:34
cafuegoAmaranth: I always do.04:34
zaudragonwhat's the passwor on the LiveCD's?04:34
zaudragon*password04:34
Amaranth'ubuntu', iirc04:34
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: it's put together better, and all the automagic scripting they do to make installation easy04:34
JDahlugo, is it possible to mix gcc4 and gcc3.4 on your system? or too much trouble?04:34
crimsunthere isn't one. If you need one, set it.04:34
zaudragonm0nk: really?04:34
cafuegoAmaranth: Nothing, I use C on the cli and avoid GUI apps like the plague.04:34
zaudragonwoah04:34
imaekcafuego: it doesn't seem to have one.  How can I add one?04:34
ugoJDahl is it possible to have both?04:34
Amaranthcafuego: I take it you're a screen and/or ratpoison user.04:34
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cafuegoimaek: 'sudo chsh user'04:35
cafuego(I think)04:35
Amaranthcafuego: With w3m embedded in emacs.04:35
zaudragonm0nk: DENIED04:35
Amaranthcafuego: and erc04:35
zaudragonack04:35
zaudragonI mean Amaranth04:35
cafuegoAmaranth: LANGUAGE!04:35
ugoJDahl id do whatever....im not really a gcc4 fan anymore....04:35
neuronlapseComputer_Guru: from first impressions over the last few hours it seems great for anyone that wants a fully fledged desktop that installs very fast, also very organised and nice gui04:35
Computer__Guruyeah i like it04:35
JDahlugo, I think so, but you better get a second opionon on that - I never tried gcc4.004:35
imaekcafuego: IT WORKS!04:35
cafuegoimaek: I'm magic.04:35
neuronlapseI'm a bit put off by all the apps installed by default04:35
Amaranthcafuego: I don't see how anyone can avoid X and _not_ use emacs.04:35
neuronlapsebut hey they can be removed04:35
Computer__Guruim gonna audit my sysv init system, i'll be back in a little bit04:36
Amaranthcafuego: I'm a gedit user myself though, so meh.04:36
fortysixand2Computer__Guru is still high on XFCE4?  :D04:36
ugoJDahl right....hmm....04:36
neuronlapseit'll be perfect for my gf tho, she's new to linux but keen to learn04:36
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Computer__Gurufortysixand2: nah, im back in kde.. but xfce4 was very impresisve04:36
Amaranthcafuego: vi sucks! :D04:36
Computer__Guruimpressive04:36
fortysixand2really?  why?04:36
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ugoAmarnath hey do you know if its possible to mix gcc3 and 4 on the same box04:36
Amaranthcafuego: nano > *04:36
zaudragonAmaranth: 'ubuntu' didn't work04:36
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Computer__Gurujust already have everything setup how i like it04:36
Amaranthzaudragon: try no password04:36
bddebianAmaranth: Amen! :-)04:36
fortysixand2ah04:36
neuronlapsevi is king :-P04:37
Computer__Gurualthough i wish i could find kde window decorations as nice as those in xfce404:37
cafuegobddebian: amaranth is trolling, could you +q it?04:37
zaudragonAmaranth: Login Cancelled04:37
cafuegobob2 even04:37
Amaranthcafuego: haha04:37
DaveyAnyone know of a status bar indicator for my UPS?04:37
kevin_I use gedit or vi04:37
bddebiancafuego: ?04:37
cafuegoAmaranth: Incidentally, did the locking work after you were identified?04:37
Amaranthoh, that reminds me, since everyone else stays opped...04:37
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Computer__Guruanyone who uses vi is a masochist04:37
Amaranthcafuego: no, i don't know my password04:37
paxyou use vim04:38
cafuego<heh>04:38
Computer__Gururather, anybody who uses it by choice04:38
fortysixand2vi > emacs04:38
fortysixand2*flame on*04:38
zaudragonAmaranth: no password did not work04:38
=== zaudragon is desperate
Amaranthvi -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim04:38
Computer__Guruvi < joe04:38
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Amaranthzaudragon: No clue then, sorry.04:38
AmaranthI've never used the LiveCD.04:38
zaudragonAmarath: thanks anyways04:38
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Computer__Gurusorry, not a vi fan04:38
Amaranthcafuego: ?04:38
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zaudragonanyone in here use the LiveCD?04:39
paxhow big is emcas 22MB last time I checked? you call that editor?04:39
zaudragonor used?04:39
karvryea just got it going04:39
bddebianzaudragon: I have, what's the problem?04:39
Computer__Guruyeah emacs is a word processor, at the very least04:39
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zaudragonbddebian: what's the password?04:39
fortysixand2password?04:39
Computer__Gurunot to mention just about any programming ide you want it to be04:39
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Computer__Guruemail program04:39
bddebianzaudragon: Password for what?04:39
Computer__Guruetc etc etc04:39
fortysixand2for root?04:39
karvryou are root of the live cd04:39
mamehi04:39
zaudragonbddebian: like Ilocked the sc reen04:40
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karvrreboot04:40
bddebianHello mame04:40
Computer__Gurui should download charlie and the chocolate factory04:40
ahuman01Which repository has Azureus ?04:40
fortysixand2reboot +104:40
mameI have a presario R3000 but mouse doesnt work ... and i dont know too much about xorg ... Someone could help me ?04:40
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Computer__Guruahuman01: i wasnt aware there was one04:40
AmaranthComputer__Guru: Please don't discuss illegal activities here.04:40
Computer__Guruoh my lord04:40
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Computer__Guruyou got it, buddy04:40
ahuman01Computer__Guru, ahh ok04:41
kevin_well, I am going to go to the ubuntuweb site and see what wkse I can figure out04:41
bddebianzaudragon: Yeah, you may be stuck rebooting unfortunately04:41
dapimp53Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper04:41
karvrthis live cd works very well, i may actuially make some space on the hd and install this04:41
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Computer__Guru8-)04:41
cafuegoAmaranth: there ya go04:41
mamenobody for my little mouse ?04:42
Amaranthubotu: Amaranth is testing something04:42
ubotuokay, Amaranth04:42
Amaranthubotu: lock Amaranth04:42
ubotuAmaranth: locking factoid amaranth04:42
zaudragonkarvr/me leaves04:42
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zaudragonthanks anyways guys04:42
paxforget emacs and vim, I'll use Joe, Joe's Own Editor04:42
Amaranthsomeone type 'ubotu: no, Amaranth is foo' please04:42
bddebianzaudragon: Sorry04:42
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cafuegoubotu: no, Amaranth is foo04:42
ubotucafuego: okay04:42
tritiumComputer__Guru, sorry to know that's what you're doing04:42
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Amaranthgah04:42
Amaranthof course you can change it :P04:42
cafuegomaybe I should not be reg'd though ;-)04:42
mamepax, I used to use it but now i'm only using vim ...04:42
mame:)04:42
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karvrcan anyone see this typing ...?04:42
bddebianmame: Doesn't work at all?  What have you tried so far?04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo04:43
ubotuokay, cafuego_04:43
bddebiankarvr: Nope :-)04:43
Amaranthkarvr: no :)04:43
karvrlol04:43
nickrudubotu: no, amaranth is knowledgeable04:43
ubotunickrud: okay04:43
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cafuego_broken POS04:43
Amaranthgah, hang on04:43
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Amaranthubotu: Amaranth04:43
ubotuI heard amaranth is knowledgeable04:43
Amaranthubotu: lock Amaranth04:43
ubotuAmaranth: locking factoid amaranth04:43
Amaranthtry again04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo04:43
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tmthello04:43
karvri cant believe i actually go 10 cds in the mail lol.....04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is really foo04:43
ubotucafuego_: okay04:43
mamebddebian, nope I just installed ubuntu on this laptop and everything is ok except the mouse ...04:43
Amaranthwtf04:43
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Amaranthit fails the first time?04:43
tmtI'm having trouble with my konicawc based webcam04:43
neuronlapsewhat's the easiest way to compile a custom kernel on ubuntu?04:44
cafuego_Amaranth: no, 28 seconds flood protection told me to go jump04:44
Computer__Gurutritium: in a fascist or closed-minded community, it is often necessary to use code, or speak very vaguely. If you'd like an example of this, please refer to studies done of the song "Tamborine Man" by Bob Dylan04:44
bddebianmame: Is is a USB or PS/2 mouse?04:44
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tmtneuronlapse: did you download the kernel source?04:44
AmaranthComputer__Guru: _HIGHLY_ off-topic.04:44
Computer__Guruokay, ill shutup04:44
Computer__Guru;)04:45
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crimsunjust take it to #ubuntu-offtopic04:45
dapimp53Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper04:45
mamebddebian, it's a laptop computer ....04:45
bddebiandapimp53: Google :-)04:45
Computer__Gurunah iw as just being a smartass anyways, ill just stop04:45
dapimp53mame: what type of laptop04:45
bddebianmame: Oh, synaptic touchpad kinda thing?04:45
Amaranthok, no more talking to me04:45
mamedapimp53, presario R300004:45
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mamebddebian, dont know04:45
cafuego_Amaranth: I see, the bot checks hostmask for locking, not user.04:45
nashifeI'm trying to install sun java's java on ubuntu, so that I can get azereus to work, and I can't figure out how to install the .bin file. can someone help? I'm new to linux...04:45
dapimp53who is the manufacturer of the bios?04:45
bddebianmame: Trackstick or touchpad?04:46
mameis there a way to maximize a window by key ?04:46
Amaranthcafuego: But it worked when nickrud did it too.04:46
cafuegoAmaranth: grr04:46
mamebddebian, touchpad ...04:46
ugoJDahl so it seems its ok to mix04:46
nashifeI've tried searching google, but I can't find help... so I'm checking here... can someone help?04:46
Amaranthmame: alt+space, then x04:46
ugothe next question is how to do it with apt get04:46
mameAmaranth, thanks04:46
JDahlugo, ./configure-libafs complains about a missing src/libafs/Makefile.in, but it works if you just symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX (probably works for AMD also)04:47
ugoJDahl: any pointers04:47
dapimp53mame: check in your bios if your bios supports legacy usb. If it does, disable it. It fixed my touchpad04:47
mamebddebian, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?04:47
bddebianAye04:47
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mameaye quoi  ?04:47
bddebianAye as in yes :-)04:47
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ugoJDahl: what was the command you typed for configure04:48
HurricanePinkKino doesn't seem to like to open video files. --;04:48
ugoJDahl: i didnt get any problems during that part04:48
mamebddebian, do u think the thing about the BIOS that dapimp53 will help me ?04:48
tritiumnashife, I'd recommend using java-package to build a .deb from the .bin you have04:48
tritium!java04:48
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.04:48
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bddebianmame: It can, try that first04:48
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god04:48
nickrud!realplayer04:48
ubotunickrud: I give up, what is it?04:48
nashifetritium, how can I do that?04:48
nickrud!realplay04:48
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue04:48
JDahlugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-504:48
crimsun!info java-package04:48
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB04:48
mameok i'm going back in 3 minutes04:48
mame:)04:48
crimsunnashife: ^^04:49
JDahlugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --prefix=/usr/local04:49
nashifecrimsun, ^.-04:49
seth_knashife: indeed, I just updated the Java how-to today, so it should be impeccably correct04:49
tritiumnashife, give that a try, and if you run into trouble, let me know04:49
nashifeseth_k, can you give me a link? just in the howtos on ubuntulinux.com?04:49
JDahlugo, that's two commands: ./configure and ./configure-libafs, but you probably figured that out04:50
seth_k  ubotu gave you the link nashife04:50
ubotuseth_k: I give up, what is it?04:50
tmtwhen I try to use my intel webcam with camorama, it freezes up camorama and won't unload the konicawc module04:50
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god04:50
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bddebianWillySilly: ??04:50
tmtI don't see anything in messages04:50
fortysixand2WillySilly:  wtf?04:50
fortysixand2are you Nietzsche?04:51
bddebianheh04:51
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paxI don't think god is in /dev anyway, try just plain rm -rf /  he's probably there.04:52
dravinehowdy everyone04:52
bddebianHello dravine04:52
nickrudhey, dravine04:52
dravineso, anyone know how to get postgres to not need ident?04:52
dravineI'm going nuts trying to get it to talk to my webserver/php04:52
seth_knashife: did you find the link?04:52
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arnavhey ho04:53
arnavneed some help on creating debs on ubuntu04:53
bddebianHello arnav04:53
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bddebianarnav: What kind of help>?04:53
nashifeseth_k, i'm looking for it right now04:53
seth_kwhat are you creating them from, arnav?04:53
seth_kubotu tell nashife about java04:53
nickrudseth_k, heh, that is a much cleaner page now :)04:54
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arnavam creating them from source tar files04:54
dravineanyone else run into this?04:54
seth_kjust for you, arnav, or would you like to distribute them to others? are the sources already debianized (e.g. with a debian/ directory)04:54
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hoofi need help in compiling kernel 2.6.1204:56
mameback04:56
bddebianmame: Any luck?04:56
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mamenothing about legacy usb in the bios...04:56
bddebianhoof: Why do you need to compile it?04:56
mamebddebian, nope04:56
mamewhat's next ?04:57
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jcfreakanyone know a work around to get into cups web admin?04:57
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nickrudjcfreak, yes, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, restart cups, and point at :63104:58
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bddebianmame: I am reading a site that says you may need a kernel patch.  Hang on.  You said that this is an R3000 right?04:58
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jcfreaknickrud: thanks, i'll give that a shot04:59
nickrudjcfreak, it was recommended to me to deluser cupsys shadow and restart cups, after each use04:59
mamebddebian, apparently int he bios i saw R3200 but on it's written R300004:59
JDahlugo, it's compiling (and will be for the next hour or so), and seems to work doing just what pasted earlier - after that it's just a matter of configuration, as far as I remember04:59
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hoofbddebian: because it's the kernel source.  How am I supposed to install it?05:00
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kamstrumentalI just downloaded 3 icon sets... Anybody give me a lead on how to install these puppies?05:00
nameless1i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface05:01
neuronlapsehow do i set a kernel module to load at boot time?05:01
bddebianhoof: Hoary?05:01
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dapimp53has anyone here installed madwifi on there ubuntu install?05:01
tritiumneuronlapse, list it in /etc/modules05:01
crimsunneuronlapse: append its name to /etc/modules05:01
mamebddebian, so ... do you have  an idea ?05:01
bddebianmame: Everything I have read so far says you need a kernel patch and an updated driver for the ALPS touchpad05:01
neuronlapsethanks :)05:01
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nickrudkamstrumental, extract them into ~/.icons05:01
neuronlapsenever needed to use a module before05:01
hoofbddebian: can we talk in private?05:02
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bddebianSure05:02
ugoJDahl: all done05:02
mamebddebian, which kernel patch ? and where can i find the driver for ALPS ? in the testing version ?05:02
kamstrumentalnickrud: I can add multiple sets at once?05:02
ed1tkamstrumental, go to system > preferences > theme, and then click on install new theme and locate the .tar.gz file05:02
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bddebianmame: Google a little.  I found two different sites explaining the problem.05:02
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nameless1i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface05:03
mamebddebian, hard when you dont have a fucking mouse ...05:03
nashifeseth_k, I followed the instructions and added the new repositories, but synaptic says I already have that version of java installed.  This means something is wrong?05:03
marianohola  a todos estoy probando  este hermoso y pintoresco sistema opertivo05:03
seth_kmariano: #ubuntu-es05:03
tritiummariano, #ubuntu-es por favor05:03
nashifehow can i get azereus and other java applications working in ubuntu?05:03
ed1tnashife, trying to install jre 1.5?05:03
bddebianSheesh05:04
seth_knashife: that's just java common. Keep following the rest of the steps to install java itself05:04
nashifeedlt, how can I install it?  my first question was how do i install the .bin file from the sun website, but no one answered05:04
r0danyone in here every patch their orinoco driver for monitor mode?05:04
seth_knashife: you have to download that 50MB file from Sun's site05:04
tritiumnashife, we did answer you, actually05:04
JDahlugo, compiled and everything?05:04
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nickrudkamstrumental, you can have as many icon directories in ~/.icons as you want; you can select them by using System-Preferences-theme, button Theme Details tab icons05:04
ed1t!tell nashife about java05:05
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nashifetritium, sorry if you answered.  Maybe I couldn't understand the answer...05:05
marianohola aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:05
tritiumnashife, I recommended you use java-package and gave you a URL to follow.  crimsun provided an additional URL05:05
ugoJDahl: apparently05:06
tritiummariano, #ubuntu-es, por favor05:06
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ugoJDahl: it had no errors05:06
nashifetritium,  you gave me a url?05:06
nashifetritium, i'll scroll up and look again05:06
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tritiumnashife, it's the wiki page seth_k was referring you to as well05:07
kamstrumentalnickrud: thanks again05:07
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nashifetritium, yes, i found that link finally and i'm trying to follow the instructions05:07
hondje_how can I change screens in irssi over ssh from a mac? It has no alt key05:07
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nashifetritium, seth_k, i didn't know that the ubotu user was an infobot05:07
nashifesorry05:07
seth_khaha no worries05:07
JDahlugo, and see the build libraries somewhere src in the source tree? damn that fast - I should get a new computer05:07
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seth_kneed him to tell you the url again?05:07
tritiumnashife, no problem :)05:07
weisnashife, type /window (window number)05:08
weisthat drives me batty on my mac05:08
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JDahlugo, s/see/you see05:08
nashifeno i got the message, and the url. i'm just still struggling to follow the instructions.05:08
heatxsinkhi all05:08
heatxsinkwhere can I find the default .Xsession for the system?05:08
nickrudkamstrumental, np, I get the low hanging fruit here :)05:08
ugohey its not over yet....05:08
hondje_weis: thanks05:08
ugoJDahl hey its not over yet....05:08
JiveNixanyone with soundblaster audigy 2?05:08
tritiumheatxsink, /etc/X11/05:08
seth_knashife: follow the instructions in JavaPackageBuildNewVersions05:08
weishondje: sorry, wrong name. No problem05:08
JiveNixworking under ubuntu?05:08
heatxsinkJiveNix, me05:08
JiveNixheatxsink, did it work out of the box install?05:09
crimsunJiveNix: just unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack05:09
heatxsinkJiveNix, what crimsun said05:09
heatxsinkJiveNix, I still cannot get firewire working05:09
JiveNixwhere is that setting? alsamixer?05:09
heatxsinkI dunno whyh05:09
JiveNixi'd be happy with sound, period :D05:09
heatxsinkright on05:09
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r0ddo i need to patch pcmcia-cs to use monitor mode on my card. cant i just use the kernel pcmcia?05:09
heatxsinktritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add05:09
bddebianDamn I'm too slow..05:10
JiveNixanyone willing to hold my hand through it?05:10
heatxsinkin my .Xsession file05:10
JiveNixi'm new to linux in general05:10
heatxsinkJiveNix, you need to apt-get alsa-mixer05:10
crimsunJiveNix: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on05:10
heatxsinknm05:10
kevinthat's what I need to do on this laptop yet, I keep forgetting to set the sound up lol05:10
heatxsinkcrimsun, got it05:10
JiveNixok let me try it05:10
JiveNixi should have come here last night05:10
mamebddebian, could you give the links to the two articles you saw about the touchpad problem ?05:10
heatxsinkI meant crimsun got it05:10
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bddebianmame: One is:  http://www.plausible.org/r300z/05:11
bddebianmame: There are links to the other one from there05:11
JiveNixunable to find simple control 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',005:11
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crimsunJiveNix: paste amixer output onto the topic's pastebin05:11
heatxsinktritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add in my .Xsession file05:11
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mamebddebian, ok thnks05:12
heatxsinktritium, what I didn't realize is that when I make a .Xsession file, it doesn't run the default one first05:12
JiveNixhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/65205:12
JiveNixmy motherboard has onboard sound too05:12
JiveNixi never use it05:12
tritiumheatxsink, you tried your own ~/.Xsession ?05:12
heatxsinkJiveNix, did you disable it in your bios?05:12
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JiveNixno, let me try that05:13
JiveNixi'll be back05:13
heatxsinkk05:13
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mamebddebian, are you sure about your link ?05:13
heatxsinktritium, yes, but I believe that i have to implement which session I'd like05:13
heatxsinkbut I don't remember how to do that05:13
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flodineanyone running E17 yet05:13
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scoperesolutionanyone know how to get a usb hd to auto mount?05:14
bddebianmame: Whoops should be /r3000z/05:14
kamstrumentalwhere is the wallpaper folder anyone?05:14
jcfreaknickrud: thanks for the help...that worked great05:14
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nickrudjcfreak, I freaked out until I got told about that ;)05:14
tfort_thank god.. finally got WoW to install05:14
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weis/usr/share/backgrounds05:14
sizzamif i run a program with wine, how do i give myself the ability to browse to folders that lay outside of my fake_windows folder05:14
tritiumheatxsink, I'm not sure05:14
heatxsinkahh05:14
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heatxsinktritium, i found that file in /etc/X11 but I think that's a top level Xsession file, I'm gonna go through that more throughly and figure out where it's pulling the "default" settings from.05:15
kamstrumentalweis: it says i do not have privelages?05:15
weiskamstrumental: might need root priv.05:16
tritiumheatxsink, you asked where the system level one was, right?  That's it.05:16
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JDahlugo, building it was faster than I remembered.. now it's done and I have /src/openafs/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.10-5-686-SP/libafs.ko. After a "sudo make install" I should be able to manually load that module and run afsd. If you get that far, you should be ok (modulo configuration, where you're on you own)05:16
weiskamstrumental: you could change permissions on the backgrounds folder to allow anyone to write to it, or you could do a sudo bash from the console and copy it manually05:16
heatxsinktritium, so if I just cp'ed it from /etc/X11/ to ~/ and added my stuff to the end of it?05:16
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god05:16
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heatxsinkhaha05:16
bddebiantritium: WillySilly ?05:17
neuronlapseI'm trying to setup irda but /dev/ircomm0 doesn't exist05:17
tritiumbddebian, what?05:17
neuronlapsewell I used mknod to create it05:17
kamstrumentalweis: must i log out as user and log in as admin?05:17
neuronlapsebut I think I might need a kernel modules05:17
weiskamstrumental, no, just open a root shell from the applications menu05:17
kamstrumentalweis: because as is, i cannot change permissions05:17
JDahlugo, as a last note, you may have to manually copy the library to the right /lib/modules dir and update modconf etc. (I think I had to do that last time)05:17
tritiumheatxsink, you can if you like, although you don't need to copy it.  Your personalized one can contain only what you need.05:17
heatxsinktritium, so how would I just start gnome-session?05:18
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nickrudkamstrumental, just sudo cp the background picture into into /usr/share/backgrounds05:18
dapimp53_when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:18
dapimp53_ How do I fix it05:19
tritiumheatxsink, I see.  You're not running a display manager like gdm?05:19
heatxsinki am05:19
heatxsinkI used to do this on slackware05:19
kamstrumentalweis: would it be "sudo cp filename.png /usr/share/backgrounds"?05:19
tritiumheatxsink, it should have a gnome-session for you automatically05:19
weiskamstrumental, with a trailing slash on backgrounds, like /backgrounds/05:19
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JiveNixok onboard sound disabled05:19
heatxsinkJiveNix, work?05:20
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tritiumheatxsink, what happens when gdm starts fo ryou?05:20
JiveNixstill no sound05:20
JiveNixusing the multimedia system selector test05:20
heatxsinkrun that one command05:20
ugoJDahl: checking whats been compiled right now05:20
heatxsinkthat the one dude gave you05:20
WillySillyrm -rf /05:20
heatxsinkshould work after that05:20
ugoJDahl: dude i cant thank you enough05:20
JiveNixcan you paste it again?05:20
WillySillythats what i call the apocalypse05:20
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tritiumWillySilly, please stop05:20
JiveNixnm05:20
JiveNixi remembered05:20
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crimsunJiveNix: what's the status of amixer's current output?05:21
WillySilly?05:21
nashifeseth_k, tritium, and anyone else.  is there more that I need to do after I finish the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions ? Do i need to restart? do I need to remove other versions of java? azereus still does not run...05:21
nickrudWillySilly, bad joke05:21
JiveNixoh shoot05:21
nashifedo i need to remove and re-add azereus?05:21
JDahlugo, as a matter you fact you can... let me just fetch my paypal number... brb05:21
heatxsinktritium, okay so when I define my own .Xsession with just my ssh-add gdm bombs cause there's not directive in the .Xsession file to start any kind of manager.05:21
JiveNixits all garbling05:21
WillySillyyou must have a bad sense of humor05:21
JiveNixi did amixer set 'audigy analog/digital output jack' on05:21
JiveNixand now its making a bubbling sound05:21
heatxsinktritium, i'm gonna try this thing again05:21
nickrudWillySilly, someone might try it, cuz they believe what they read here05:21
JiveNixbut at least its making some kind of sound05:21
tritiumheatxsink, you don't have to do that with ubuntu.  I'm not understanding why you're doing that, since you're running gdm.05:22
heatxsinkJiveNix, like when you click or something?05:22
JiveNixthats deffinitely a step forward05:22
JiveNixno its doing it constantly05:22
WillySillywell they shouldnt believe everything they read05:22
WillySillyits common sense05:22
bddebianWillySilly: If you don't need help or aren't going to help, why are you in this channel?05:22
heatxsinktritium, cause I don't want to have to enter a passpharse when opening a terminal session05:22
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heatxsinkdo a man on ssh-ad05:22
heatxsinkdo a man on ssh-add*05:22
seth_kWillySilly: stop spamming and stay on topic, please. People need help.05:22
heatxsinkyou'll see what i'm trying to do05:22
JiveNixany idea about this garbling?05:22
nashife:) like me. i need help. :)05:23
seth_knashife: no, that should be the end of it. You dpkg -i'd a deb?05:23
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D1does xine play mp3s? I can't get my totem-xine to play mp3s.05:23
nashifeseth_k, yes i did. and it seemed to install fine05:23
heatxsinktritium, brb05:23
WillySillymeh05:23
JiveNixuh oh05:23
nickrudWillySilly, :)05:23
nashifeseth_k, when i run azereus from the terminal, a long output comes up and then it just hangs.05:23
JiveNixanyone else can help wiht my sound card?05:24
dapimp53_when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:24
kamstrumentalweis: I entered the following: "sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/" and got: "cp: omitting directory `/home/daren/Desktop' -- cp: cannot stat `G.png': No such file or directory"05:24
bigfoot1hello all. I want to put the Preferences-->Keyboard-->Typing Break Applet on my panel.  I have it marked, but it's not showing up on my panel. What's up?05:24
seth_knashife: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and lemme have it :P05:24
crimsunJDahl: I really hope you're joking05:24
WillySilly:|05:24
kamstrumentalweis: i identified origin and destination.. wrong order of command?05:24
kevindapimp3: I use madwifi and it is working great05:24
mamebddebian, what's weird is that on this computer a debian was installed before this ubuntu and the touchpad was working .... So what is different between the Debian and Ubuntu kernels ?05:24
bddebiandapimp53: Did you run that as sudo?05:24
weiskamstrumental, you'll need to do this: sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop\ /G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/05:24
JDahlcrimsun, yeah... actually it did seem abit rude :S05:25
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weisthe space in your filename makes it look like two files05:25
dapimp53_bddebian: yes I did05:25
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dapimp53_kevin: I cant get madwifi to install... would you be willing to help me get it installed05:25
nashifeseth_k, this is embarrassing... but what's pastebin? paste the output and send it to your username? or...?05:25
ugoJDahl: where's the proper place to put this module05:25
ugo?05:25
kevinone sec I will post a link05:25
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bddebianmame: What kernel version are you running?  uname -a05:25
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seth_knashife: no worries. Click the link, then paste the output there05:25
nashifeaw, thanks tritium. someday i won't feel so dumb.05:25
seth_kabout time WillySilly left05:26
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mame2.6.1005:26
nashifeit's long. you want it in the main channel?05:26
tritiumnashife, you're not dumb.  You're learning something new.05:26
kevindapimp3:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4167005:26
kevinthis is what I used05:27
mamebddebian, 2.6.10 ... maybe another should work ....05:27
mameor maybe some module is not loaded ...05:27
nashife   1.05:27
nashife      java.nio.charset.UnsupportedCharsetException05:27
nashife   2.05:27
nashife         at java.nio.charset.Charset.forName (Charset.java:125)05:27
nashife   3.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:32)05:27
nashife   4.05:27
seth_knoooooooooooooo05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)05:27
nashife   5.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)05:27
nashife   6.05:27
nickrudhe did ask :)05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:110)05:27
nashife   7.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:145)05:28
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nashife   8.05:28
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nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)05:28
nashife   9.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.startup (AEDiagnostics.java:117 )05:28
seth_khe did ask! I didn't notice :(05:28
nashife  10.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.getLogger (AEDiagnostics.java:1 84)05:28
nashife  11.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.Debug.static{} (Debug.java:16)05:28
nashife  12.05:28
nashife         at java.lang.VMClass.step8 (VMClass.java)05:28
nashife  13.05:28
bddebianmame: What happens if you go to a terminal and type:  "sudo modprobe psmouse" ?05:28
nashife         at java.lang.Class.initialize (Class.java:145)05:28
nashife  14.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:37)05:28
nashife  15.05:28
arusweet05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)05:28
seth_kwell, at least we know it's not a java problem.05:28
nashife  16.05:28
JDahlugo, ideally a "sudo make install" should do it for you (I dont want to install it on this machine). Dont you get a library installed somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.10-xxx? I think you have tweak module loading yourself. First try loading it manually, and then start afsd, though05:28
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nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)05:28
nashife  17.05:28
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nashife  19.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)05:28
nashife  20.05:28
seth_khahahahahahaha05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationChecker.checkConfiguratio n (ConfigurationChecker.java:448)05:28
tritiumsheesh05:29
nashife  21.05:29
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.initialise (Confi gurationManager.java:91)05:29
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mamebddebian, nothing it's just loaded the module ...05:29
seth_kI told him to use pastebin...05:29
mameI can see it with lsmod05:29
tritiumno worries05:29
Madpilotooops... :)05:29
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bddebianmame: It did load?05:29
seth_kanyways, nashife, when you get back from quiet, this isn't a java problem05:29
tritiumnashife, sorry, just wanted to quite the channel down a bit05:29
mamebddebian, maybe i have to restart X ? yes it did05:29
Crisalitaalguien habla espaol?05:29
seth_knashife: the error shows that java is installed just fine. The problem is with azureus05:29
tritiumnashife, we'll show you how to use pastebin05:29
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bddebianmame: Yes, try to restart X05:30
D1can somebody tell me how to play mp3s with xine?05:30
aru:)05:30
aru!mp305:30
ubotuaru: I don't know, could you explain it?05:30
mameback in two minutes05:30
ugoJDahl: actually thats what i just did05:30
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tritiumCrisalita, #ubuntu-es05:30
aruhmm05:30
D1!mp305:30
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ugoJDahl: i ran locate to find the file....05:30
JDahlugo, and no errors loading the module or starting afds as root? then you're all done, I think.05:30
heatxsinktritium, doh05:31
tritiumnashife, you okay there?05:31
ugoJDahl: i didnt see it05:31
tritiumheatxsink, what's up?05:31
ugoJDahl: however i did an insmod....that worked05:31
nashifetritium, I don't know. am I?05:31
heatxsinktritium, still didn't work05:31
heatxsinkdoh05:31
heatxsinkoh well05:31
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tritiumnashife, just making sure ;)05:31
ugoJDahl: i noticed somethings in var messages about missing symbols05:31
seth_knashife: did you get azureus from their website?05:31
bddebianHeya nalioth05:31
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mameback05:31
nashifeseth_k, i got it from synaptic.05:31
nashifei thin05:32
nashifek05:32
mamedoesnt work05:32
JDahlugo, actually starting afsd is not a good before you've created the cache and made the /afs mount point... AFS is one of the annoying kernel modules where nothing but a reboot will help if you screw up05:32
bddebianmame: Any luck?05:32
bddebianDamnit05:32
seth_kok, nashife. You're using backports?05:32
JDahlugo, s/a good/a good ieda05:32
JDahljeez... my keyboard is broken05:32
ugoJDahl: ok...05:32
Crisalitathanks tritium05:32
nashifeseth_k, um... I think so? you mean in my repositories, right?05:32
bddebianmame: Do an "lsmod" and see if you have tsdev, evdev, mouse, and psmouse modules loaded05:33
tritiumCrisalita, no problem.05:33
dapimp53_kevin: I still get this Makefile.inc:101: *** KERNELPATH: /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386 does not exist.  Stop.05:33
JDahlugo, but insmod complained about missing symbols?05:33
the_walrusDo I have the option of installing Grub at install time with Ubuntu?05:33
bddebianHoary > Warty right?  I dunno why I can't keep that straight05:33
ugoJDahl: ok...however...just tell me the best place to stick this module in lib/modules and i'll take it from there05:33
mamebddebian, ok05:33
tritiumthe_walrus, it's the default boot loader05:33
ugoJDahl: no insmod worked cleanly...05:33
nashifeseth_k, tritium, should I remove azereus and reinstall it?05:33
the_walrussweet, I just killed my slack install trying to get grub working05:33
seth_kthat's right, nashife. You might try removing it and installing directly from azureus' site05:33
kevindapimp3: I had the same problem, did you download the linux-headersfor your kernel?05:34
nashifeseth_k, alright i'll try it05:34
ugoJDahl: arla had issues at that point...i did get a compile with it05:34
seth_knashife: the URL is http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download05:34
dapimp53_yea.05:34
seth_knashife: ping me if you need help with this manual install05:34
mamebddebian, there is no tsdev05:34
tritiumnashife, I haven't been following your conversation, sorry.05:34
dapimp53_should I remove them and reinstall them05:34
ugoJDahl: however....when i took a look at /var/log/messages05:34
misfit_toythe_walrus, slack? why are you in ubuntu?05:34
bddebianmame: Try to modprobe it05:34
ugoJDahl: in noticed some symbol complaints...05:34
kevintry again cos I did it and upon a retry it did it05:34
mamebddebian, just did it05:34
mameand it loaded it05:34
nashifetritium, ok np.  you were just the other person who was sometimes helping me so... kept your name in.05:34
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the_walrusmisfit_toy, well, I killed slack, booted into Ubuntu live, and about to install it05:34
mamerestart X ?05:34
the_walrusJust wanted to make sure it had Grub first05:34
misfit_toythe_walrus, good idea05:35
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JDahlugo, copy libafs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/fs/afs.o and use modconf I guess... you can also steal the init scripts from Debian's ancient AFS version - they are pretty good05:35
bddebianmame: Try it.  You may also need to check your X config to make sure your mouse is using psaux05:35
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benplautwhat's the name of that handy little util to change your cursor theme?05:36
dravinegcursor?05:36
ugoJDahl: nah forget the symbol stuff...i think those were from alna...i just checked the times05:36
root_limewire ubuntu05:36
ugoJDahl: ok...thats a really awesome wrap....05:36
benplautdravine: thanks :)05:37
ugoJDahl: ill work out the rest of the stuff from here....05:37
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tritiumbenplaut, gcursor?05:37
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benplautyup05:37
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seth_knashife: once you download the .tar.bz2 file, stick it in your home. Then, in a terminal, "tar -xvjf blahblahblah.tar.bz2"05:37
dravinesure thing05:37
JDahlugo, later you need to look at /etc/openafs... I dont what make install gave you? but you're almost done, I think... create the cache, and make the /afs directory05:37
ugoJDahl: where are you....from JDahl....05:37
mamebddebian, back05:37
tritiumah, dravine had the answer :)05:37
nickrudroot_, ubuntu gtk-gnutella in universe05:37
mamebut nothing mpre :(05:37
nashifeseth_k, thanks05:37
seth_knashife: then cd to the azureus directory and ./azureus to run it05:37
mames/mpre/more05:37
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JDahlugo, from a place called LA05:37
seth_ki'm sorry this is becoming such a pain for you, nashife. But we'll get it sorted05:38
ugoJDahl: right im in Pittsburgh....i go to CMU....05:38
nashifeseth_k, the sad part is that I did this before in warty... but it was so long ago i don't remember...05:38
JDahlugo, oh... they drafted large parts of AFS, right?05:39
ugoJDahl: whoops...make install doesn't seem to be installing this stuff to the right place...05:39
nashifeseth_k, i got an error when i entered ./azureus05:39
dravinehow do I tell postgres to not use ident?05:39
seth_ksame error?05:39
ugoJDahl: yeah...thats where the background knowledge bout how it works comes from05:39
nashifenever got an error before.05:39
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seth_k(this time, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste it there.)05:39
seth_kunless it's < 4 lines or so05:40
seth_kthen just paste here05:40
ugoJDahl: i had a distd systems class last sem...we covered afs...unfort the coverage was a little to brief for my liking....05:40
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nashifeseth_k, oh i get pastebin now. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31479705:41
JDahlugo, you should have alot of things installed in /usr/local/xxx by now. You dont?05:41
nashifejust says i need to upgrade java i think...05:41
seth_kyeah... ugh, odd05:41
kevindapimp3: did that work?05:42
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seth_ktritium, look at nashife's pastebin. I've never had such issues with azureus05:42
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ugoJDahl: nope...for some reason not at all....05:42
bddebianmame: Sorry man, you might be over my head on this one. :-(05:42
dapimp53kevin: I got madwifi to install. I am just rebooting now to finish everything05:42
JDahlugo, and you use -prefix with configure?05:42
kevinokay, awsome05:42
dapimp53so if I get this to work I dont need all that ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant stuff?05:42
tritiumseth_k, I'll take a look, but I'm not familiar with azureus05:42
nashifeseth_k, is there a way to whipe all that I've done and start from scratch? like, kill all java and azureus?  uninstall? synaptic actually doesn't list azureus so I was wrong about getting it there, so i can't remove it there.05:42
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kevinthat's right05:43
dapimp53sweet05:43
dapimp53I hope this works05:43
kevinall you will need is all that is listed05:43
seth_knashife: oooh05:43
seth_knashife: then let's grab it that way05:43
dapimp53you going to be around for a bit just in case I need some more help with this05:43
ugoJDahl: yup to /usr/local05:43
mamebddebian, ok thanks anyway ....05:43
nashifeoh maybe i spelled it wrong. i was spelling it wrong before05:43
kevinyes05:44
seth_knashife: first, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and look for the backports (especially hoary-extras universe)05:44
tritiumnashife, which java did you install?  Did you build it with java-package?05:44
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nashifeseth_k, nevermind. it's listed. i was spelling it wrong.05:44
JDahlugo, and you used sudo with make install? strange...05:44
jadugarHas anyone here been able to upgrade tomboy to 0.2.3 in hoary?05:45
nashifetritium, i followed the instructions in the link you sent... a page linked to from there about building new versions...05:45
ugoJDahl: actually im using sudo -s05:45
seth_knashife: okay. what version is it? (right click > properties)05:45
tritiumnashife, and you used a command similar to "fakeroot make-jpkg ..." ?05:45
ugoJDahl: funny huh?05:45
nashifetritium, yes, i used fakeroot... followed those instructions and it seemed to work.05:46
nashifeseth_k, right-click on what?05:46
seth_knever mind, I peeked at the version in backports myself05:46
jamie_hey guys, I just installed ubuntu and I need to know what is the root password?05:47
dapimp53kevin: does it matter that I use a WPA Key05:47
bddebian!root05:47
nashifeshould I remove azureus and go from a downloaded file again?05:47
ubotumethinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:47
nickrudheh, I'm slow :)05:47
kevindapimp3: yes, got into your system and add05:47
jamie_I will try that05:47
dapimp53kevin: what do you mean05:47
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nickrudbddebian, I hope that piece of fruit was tasty :)05:48
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seth_knashife: yeah, it looks like Azureus won't work except with the synaptic version. My best guess is that some other version of Java on your system is what Azureus sees, and not the new 1.5 we just installed05:48
bddebiannickrud: ??05:48
seth_knashife: do you have the sun-whateverit'scalled installed from synaptic? The old version?05:48
nickrudbddebian, I pick a lot of low hanging fruit around here05:48
kevindapimp3 I need someone using the regular desktop, to tell you how to get there05:48
nashifeseth_k, can i remove the wrong version of java? or create simlinks in the place that azureus would look for the right version of java?05:48
JDahlugo, yeah... that's odd. Something you could do while you think about that issue is to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs (unfortunately I dont remember the details). I seem to vaguely recall that there was some issues with aklog once you get the other issues solved05:49
bddebiannickrud: Heh, well it seems to be all I can get.. :-)05:49
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tritiumnashife, what is the result of "java -version"?05:49
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nickrudbddebian, it lets the 'ones who know' focus on the good stuff05:49
KuriosAnyone Reccommend an RSS client for Ubuntu?05:49
dapimp53kevin: I got the madwifi to install but I still dont have internet connection05:49
nashifetritium, want the output here?it's 8 lines05:49
nickrudKurios, I use liferea05:49
JDahlugo, something about having to patch and rebuild aklog for authentication (if you use kerberos)05:50
seth_knashife: pastebin ;)05:50
nashifeor just certain info from it?05:50
tritiumnashife, no, pastebin or #flood05:50
kevindapimp3: give me 5 mins will boot into gnome05:50
bddebiannickrud: Nah, let's make up answers. :-)05:50
KuriosAll in favor of Liferea, say "I"05:50
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nickrudKurios, or, straw, or, ...05:50
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nashifetritium, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31479805:51
heatxsinkKurios, liferea05:51
dapimp53ok05:51
nickrudbddebian, I've done that enough without trying ;P05:51
bddebianhehe, amen :-)05:51
heatxsinkI05:51
seth_knashife: remove "sun-j2" in synaptic, if you have it (props tritium ;) )05:51
ugoJDahl: i do use kerberos....life depends on it05:51
tritiumseth_k, :)05:51
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nashifeseth_k, ok05:51
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JDahlugo, I'll be semiafk working, but will be around for another couple of hours, if you get that far05:51
KuriosAny fans of the Linux Box podcast?05:51
ugoJDahl: i have the heimdal libraries installed05:52
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KuriosI enjoy but would like something a little less dry05:52
DAC1138Kurios, yeah, i tried it05:52
ugoJDahl: right....05:52
DAC1138Kurios, too...boring05:52
Kuriosor maybe less "read off a sheet of paper-ish"05:52
nashifeseth_k, i removed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.505:52
delltonyhi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful05:53
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delltonyhi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful05:53
seth_khm, that was it nashife?05:53
JDahlugo, I dont think you want heimdal - dont you just want krb5?05:53
tritiumdelltony, please don't do that05:53
JDahlugo, I cant remember, actually...05:53
delltonyi didn't mean to05:53
tritiumok05:53
delltonyit didn't show the first time sorry05:53
tritiumno problem05:53
nashifeseth_k, so my next step is to reinstall java from the bin file like before?05:54
nashifethe azureus installer still gives me the 'you need to upgrade..." error05:54
seth_knashife: not quite05:54
seth_knashife: first remove package "sablevm" in synaptic (THAT's the solution!)05:54
seth_knashife: then reinstall java from the DEB file, not the bin file05:54
bob2delltony: what have you changed since it last worked?05:54
seth_knashife: and you're gold!05:54
tritiumI think you're right, seth_k05:55
delltonywell, i have just updated the kernal i was running initially i386 kernal i changed it to 686 kernal05:55
delltonythen i changed it to smp kernal cause of HT05:55
seth_knashife: just make sure you install from the deb you created with "fakeroot make-jpkg..." and not the bin you downloaded from Sun05:55
bob2delltony: does booting the old one "fix" it?05:55
delltonythats the only major thing i can think of05:55
nashifeseth_k, ok i'm at that step now05:56
seth_ktritium: I sure hope I am, b/c otherwise I'm gonna go hide :D05:56
delltonythat i haven't tried but i should do that05:56
delltonyis there a way to cat grub s i can see if i still have the old boot image?05:56
tritiumdelltony, if you didn't remove it, it's still there05:56
delltonyyeah i didn't remove it just go back to the first one i assume or last on the list05:57
delltonyill try that cause like right now its runninga t 70C and i have only been using it for about 10 mins05:57
tritiumdelltony, since you asked, the file is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst05:57
delltonythanks05:57
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tritiumdelltony, you can comment out the "hiddenmenu" line if you want to see the kernel images you have to choose from05:58
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kutucapehi all05:58
delltonyyeah ill try the i386 kernal and see05:58
bddebianHello kutucape05:58
delltonycause like i say it use to run fast and all but its heating up and scaling down05:58
chizanghow do i install w32codecs in hoary? it seems like it's a broken package when i do an apt-get install05:58
kutucapebddebian, are you using breezy?05:59
chizangPackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:59
chizangThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:59
chizangis only available from another source05:59
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bddebianchizang: I blieve you have to get it from backports05:59
ugoJDahl: well hieimdal is a similar implementation of kerberos05:59
tankichizang, isn't that just a zip of dll's that you put in /usr/lib/win32?05:59
bddebiankutucape: As a matter of fact yes05:59
bob2chizang: that just means the package doesn't exist05:59
seth_kchizang: it's in hoary-extras/restricted, in backports05:59
kutucapebddebian, me too but my X is broken05:59
bob2chizang: easier to get the .zip file and untar it to /usr/lib/win32/ manually05:59
ugoJDahl: ill get back to you....i think i need to tweak the config settings05:59
kutucapei don't know how to fix it05:59
chizangbob2, where can i get the .zip from?05:59
bddebiankutucape: X has been up and down recently05:59
bob2chizang: mplayer.hu06:00
nickrudlol, is the font thing still left broken?06:00
chizangah, ok06:00
seth_kbob2: easiest to go to a backports mirror and download a deb, then dpkg -i it for easy uninstallation later06:00
ugoJDahl: on yeah im working with code checked out from cvs....06:00
tankibob2, we need some action in #ubuntu-offtopic06:00
kutucapeyeah, i know and i get the worse one :D06:00
bddebiankutucape: Supposedly a fix was uploaded today06:00
nashifeseth_k, it seems to be working!  thank you for sticking with me06:00
tankii'm getting dangerously bored my friend06:00
seth_knashife: wooooo!06:00
tritiumnashife, yay!06:00
bob2seth_k: ah, that too06:00
kutucapebddebian, oh really?06:00
bddebiannashife: Woohoo.. :-)06:00
bddebiankutucape: That's what they say in #ubuntu-devel06:00
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bob2tanki: hm?06:01
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kutucapeok, maybe apt-get update will save mine ;)06:01
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nashifei wish I could understand more about what I did... :) i'm glad it's working06:01
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seth_knashife: sablevm was the culprit. It was keeping Sun's 1.5 Java from working06:01
kutucapeis that right, bddebian ?06:01
tankis/actin/activity chatter misc links of booties, whatever floats your boat06:01
KSmurfanyone know why I was banned?06:01
JDahlugo, right.. I think, just stick with kerberos if you can06:01
seth_knashife: so basically in the end, we uninstalled sablevm, and installed Sun's Java06:01
nashifeseth_k, what was sablevm anyway?06:01
DAC1138anyone here using an external usb hard drive?06:01
sizzami have mounted some iso's, but im not sure which are still mounted.   is there a command that shows me everything thats currently mounted?06:01
tritiumKSmurf, when?06:01
weissizzam, type mount06:01
seth_knashife: sablevm is a free java, reverse-engineered.06:01
nickrudsizzam, mount06:01
bddebiankutucape: From /topic in #ubuntu-devel : | yes, X is broken.  a fix has already been uploaded.06:01
kutucapeDAC1138, yes I do, i used to use it06:01
weisit'll list mounted volumes06:01
sizzameasy enough, thanks06:01
nashifeahh...  ok. it makes sense.06:02
DAC1138kutucape, did you have any problems with it?06:02
KSmurfI came back from supper and noticed I had been booted06:02
seth_knashife: Java has a very restrictive license, so it can't be included in ubuntu. hence sablevm06:02
kutucapebddebian, oh great.. apt-getting...06:02
KSmurfwas It because I was on tor?06:02
DAC1138kutucape, mine works upon bootup, then after a while it stops working and i can remount it06:02
seth_knashife: but sablevm doesn't work very well yet, and only emulates java 1.4. Azureus needs 1.506:02
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seth_kKSmurf: yes, the freenode network doesn't allow tor06:02
tritiumKSmurf, you're not banned, though06:02
bddebiannickrud: Nice06:02
DAC1138kutucape, it sometimes works in windows too. sounds like a flaky drive, but it works perfectly over on a mandrake 10 box06:02
kutucapeDAC1138, nope, it works smooth on my hoary06:02
KSmurfI changed my use name and disabled tor06:03
kutucapebut i can't write to it :(06:03
DAC1138huh. weird06:03
nickrudbddebian, had, have lost, will get back, I want to try breezy once it starts getting towards rc status06:03
KSmurfsorry06:03
kutucapejust read.. maybe it formattd with ntfs06:03
DAC1138im going to try building a new kernel, see if that does it06:03
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DAC1138mines fat3206:03
DAC1138even with ext3 it wasnt readable in ubuntu06:03
ugoJDahl: did you use exec-prefix06:03
DAC1138is there a way to scan a drive for bad sectors while installing ubuntu?06:04
ugoJDahl: i think that may have been it.....06:04
bob2tor is banned due to abuse this morning06:04
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kutucapeDAC1138, i think you have remount it with -oremount -t ext3? CMIIW06:04
tritiumbob2, what happened?06:04
kevin_dapimp3: go to computer, then to networking and doan add, and put in your wep key06:04
JDahlugo, ah no... that's probably it - I never installed it, just build it06:05
kutucapeDAC1138, you can try with livecd first06:05
bob2tritium: someone was banned for ascii crapflooding, so they joined using tor and started making GNAA comments06:05
kutucapefrom livecd you can check your harrdrive06:05
dapimp53kevin_: its not a WEP key its a WPA key06:05
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tritiumbob2, in #ubuntu specifically?06:05
DAC1138kutucape, okay, but ubuntu is already installed, im running it now, cant i just scan it here?06:05
kevin_still go into there and do it06:05
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bob2tritium: yes06:05
kutucapenope, you can't06:06
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DAC1138kutucape, i want to scan the usb drive, not this hard drive06:06
dapimp53and I just enter my paraphrase?06:06
DAC1138i still need the live cd?06:06
kutucapescan only works if read only mode06:06
DAC1138ah, okay06:06
kutucapeyes, that's the safe way06:06
kevin_I guess dude, mine worked right off06:06
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ugoJDahl: i should buy you a beer...06:06
kevin_and you have done a reboot?06:06
DAC1138so i do "mount /dev/sdc1 /media/drivename -oremount -t vfat" ?06:06
dapimp53yes06:06
Ex-CyberDAC1138: for drive testing you're probably better off using a utility from the manufacturer06:06
DAC1138its got fat32 currently06:07
dapimp53I just finished one06:07
kutucapeDAC1138, oh, you can do this..06:07
dapimp53it tells me my ath0 is down now06:07
kutucapewhat type of filesystem do you have on usb harddisk?06:07
DAC1138Ex-Cyber, i cant even find the manufacturer. its a firestorm case with a toshiba drive06:07
kevin_ok open a term and see what dmesg says06:07
JDahlugo, already covered there... besides I am home alone, so not much better to do06:07
bob2kutucape: people generally use fat32, so other OSs can read it06:07
DAC1138kutucape, its fat32 currently06:07
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DAC1138yeah, i need fat32, but i tried ext3 to see if it would work with ubuntu (which is messing it up)06:08
kutucapehmm, it's better you check with WIndows OS too, CMIIW06:08
dapimp53kevin_: what are you looking for specifically06:08
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DAC1138it needs to be able to be read on the macs at school and on my windows box here and linux laptop06:08
Velcanen i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?06:08
DAC1138kutucape, windows wouldnt work06:08
kutucapebecause fat32 is windows file system06:08
kutucapehmm, strange...06:08
mitch528can someone help me install winex?06:08
kevin_or even do an iwlist scan to see if it sees your wireless router06:08
DAC1138kutucape, windows wont detect the drive sometimes, and when it does, it says "scandisk could not complete the scan"06:08
bob2weis: when did you order them?06:09
ugoJDahl: damm! there was something you mentioned about configure and symlinks right?06:09
weis5 weeks ago06:09
kutucapewell, i guess it become flaky06:09
weisbut they shipped on the 28th06:09
Velcanmitch528:  www.transgaming.com cedega is great06:09
ugoJDahl: i think i just hit that now....06:09
kutucapemine is burn :(06:09
weisjust waiting for them to come in the mail06:09
tritiumweis, did you check shipit?  did they already ship?06:09
DAC1138kutucape, but it works perfectly in mandrake 1006:09
kutucapei think usb harddisk is vunerable...06:09
DAC1138kutucape, its mounted right now06:09
weisthey did ship, yes06:09
bddebianUSB sucks06:09
DAC1138bddebian, thanks for your input, some people dont have a choise to use usb06:10
bddebianDon't have a choice?06:10
bddebianThere's always a choice :-)06:10
dapimp53kevin_: yes it does06:10
ugoJDahl: what was the file again?06:10
DAC1138bddebian, alright, i know there are firewire pci cards, but belive me, I HAVE NO CHOICE!!!06:10
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kevin_ok, then go into computer, networking and set it up06:10
JDahlugo, I dont you would be able to run ./configure-afslib without fixing it - src/afslib/Makefile.in is missing, but you can symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX06:10
dapimp53I tried but it still doesnt work06:11
britt_radiofreedoes apt-get install realplayer break for everyone and is there a place to get newer libc without breaking all?06:11
DAC1138bddebian, so lets not get into a firewire/usb debate06:11
jamie_I still don't have the correct root password, what else can I try?06:11
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dapimp53do you use WPA on your wireless?06:11
britt_radiofreei really need to watch a few real videos06:11
bddebianDAC1138: And that statement wasn't meant to offend, just that USB should be restricted to keyboards and mice IMHO. :-)06:11
desrtDAC1138; no debate.  usb sucks.06:11
desrtDAC1138; usb 2 is practically useless06:11
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kevin_no, I don't at this time06:11
bddebianjamie_: There is no root password.  Use the password that you gave when you installed if using sudo and such06:11
ugoJDahl: right thats exactly what i was looking for06:11
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dapimp53See I think that is my problem06:11
DAC1138yeah, its only goot for thumb drives, mice, keyboards, bluttooth adapters, usb ethernet adapters, yeah, sounds useless06:12
DAC1138good*06:12
dapimp53I dont know how to configure it with the WPA key06:12
kevin_I am looking06:12
desrti'd be happy if i could get a firewire thumb drive06:12
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bddebianUSB ethernet sucks too06:12
dapimp53I tried the WEP key but it causes some problems on the other computers on the network06:12
bddebiandesrt: Amen06:12
DAC1138bddebian, man, you're not happy with anything06:12
desrtDAC1138; he's happy with firewire :)06:12
bddebianDAC1138: I'm very happy with the 10 machines I have running here, none of them using USB devices :-)06:12
desrtanyone who has used a significant amount of firewire gear is bound to hate usb06:12
desrtit's just the way it goes :)06:12
jamie_I don't think it ask me for the root password, it just went into installing the users.06:12
DAC1138kutucape, so anyway, its running on mandrake.ive been trying to set that up as a way to access my drive through the network06:13
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desrtbddebian; what do you use for keyboards?06:13
desrtadb? :P06:13
tritiumjamie_, there is no root password.06:13
bddebianjamie_: Did you read that link?  We don't use root06:13
bddebiandesrt: PS/2 what else? ;-P06:13
desrtdie. :P06:13
DAC1138kutucape, but ubuntu wont access any windows computers on the network or the mandrake box. its visible, but not browsable06:13
desrtps/2 is definitely worse than usb :)06:13
bddebianHeh06:13
IIIEarsbddebian - 10 machines. at home? (only four here. - lol)06:13
kevin_dapimp3: try googling for the answer, it is probably something simple06:13
desrtif you could IPs, i have 7 machines here.. but counting IPs can be deceptive06:14
IIIEars<<-- my electric bill is amazing. - rofl06:14
desrt*count06:14
Velcanen i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?06:14
bddebianIIIEars: Tell me about it.  I finally shut down the Proliant 1500 I was running cause it wasa pig06:14
i3dmasterjust upgraded to breezy, everything is ok but the right click menu, I did not see "open terminal" on there anymore, anyone knows how to add it back?06:14
desrtso guys06:14
desrtcan i get any programs for ubuntu to scam the power company?06:15
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nickrudheh06:15
ugoJDahl: that should be libafs...06:15
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sizzamyea, check out gnuLectric06:15
desrtsizzam; can't find it.  is it in multiverse or something?06:15
nickrud$411 last month, I could use some help06:15
dapimp53kevin_: I found this to add pre-up wpa_supplicant -B -i ath0 -d <your_supported_wlan_card_type>06:15
sizzamhmm, try apt-get update  ;-)06:15
dapimp53what is the supported wlan card type06:15
IIIEarsbddebian - just curious do you use disk image backups? if so what app do you like best?06:16
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kevin_ok, I am looking at google now06:16
desrtdapimp53; if you're using atheros, it's madwifi06:16
bddebianIIIEars: No sorry.  I have varying OSs.  4 Windows, 3 Hurd, 1 Debian GNU/Linux and 1 Ubuntu06:16
dapimp53so I just put madwifi there?06:17
desrt"-dmadwifi"06:17
ksmurfI got my wifes' wireless card up but I notice It seems to operate in bursts.  It is a DWL-G520.   Any suggestions.  Someone mentioned the madwifi driver.06:17
desrtya06:17
desrtksmurf; i have the same card.06:17
desrtksmurf; i find that keeping ping going in the background helps a lot06:17
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desrtkeeps the interface awake or something :)06:17
kevin_ty desrt06:18
zenlunaticsounds like a nasty hack06:18
desrtkevin_; do you find that it randomly freezes up your laptop and you need to pull/reinsert the card? :)06:18
desrti'd love a solution to that particular issue :)06:18
IIIEarshehe - yep, same here mixed bunch of OS'es - really looking for a way to distribute images for bare metal restore.06:19
elmagozizouIm just wondering..in linux we dont have to defrag?06:19
desrtelmagozizou; the ext2 file system does a good job of keeping itself defragmented06:19
kevin_nope06:19
desrtelmagozizou; if you're really concerned then every 2 or 3 years tar up the filesystem, erase all the files, then reextract it :)06:19
kevin_desrt: no problems with it06:19
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desrtO_o06:20
kevin_the only freeze up is when I open too many windows lol06:20
elmagozizou#5 desrt , how do i do that?06:20
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desrtelmagozizou; tar czvf /path/to/file.tar.gz *06:21
desrtto create file.tar.gz out of the contents of the current dir06:21
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ksmurfdesrt do u ping the wap evry 5 secs with a scipt?06:21
desrtactually, use . instead of * ... then you'll get hidden too06:21
dapimp53kevin_:  I got it to  work!!! It was a combination of WPAsup and the madwifi06:21
dapimp53thanks man06:21
desrtksmurf; nah.  just run ping in a term :)06:21
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Vantage__anyone here successfully used bootcd and ubuntu hoary?06:21
dapimp53does anyone how to change the boot order of Grub06:21
elmagozizou#5 desrt , no I mean the file system...06:21
desrtdapimp53; edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:21
kevin_kool dapimp3 awsome dude!!06:21
ksmurfis there a way to timeit?06:22
tankihowdy kevin06:22
desrtelmagozizou; oh.  mke2fs06:22
desrtelmagozizou; use with extreme care :)06:22
tankiand mr smurf06:22
kevin_hey tanki06:22
ksmurfTanki06:22
kevin_<--- brb needs a walking break06:22
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elmagozizou#5 desrt , but that no for making ex2 floppies?06:23
desrtelmagozizou; also, you probably want -j if you're creating new filesystems... makes them ext306:23
tankiyou both should come to #ubuntu-offtopic, take your shoes off, order a drink, chill06:23
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desrtelmagozizou; it's for making all filesystems06:23
desrtelmagozizou; i really don't recommend that you do this...06:23
desrtelmagozizou; fragmentation is seriously not a problem06:23
elmagozizouok.06:23
dapimp53desrt: how do I make my windows the defualt06:23
desrtdapimp53; just move it up in the order06:23
IIIEars!grub06:24
elmagozizou#5 desrt , maybe you now...where are all the packages that i donload throu synaptic or apt-get06:24
desrtdapimp53; or modify the "default" line06:24
IIIEars!dualboot06:24
desrtelmagozizou; all over the place06:24
Vantage__dapimp53: set the default to the number it is in the order (starting from 0)06:24
nickrudelmagozizou, /var/cache/apt/archives06:24
IIIEarsUbotu is taking some time off i guess06:24
desrtelmagozizou; the package files are sometimes cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/06:24
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Computer__Guruthis is gonna seem like a weird question06:24
desrtelmagozizou; but in general, if you want to find out where the files of a specific package are installed, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list06:24
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elmagozizou#5 desrt , No but I mean if y want to burn then on a CD to take them to another computer that dont have internet conection06:25
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chris_is enabling root an easy thing to explain here? I would like to enable that account and use it.06:25
desrtelmagozizou; /var/cache/apt/archives then06:25
Computer__Gurubut where owuld i find the .config file that they used when they made the ubuntu syste,? or is it vanilla (all dfaults)?06:25
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto06:25
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm "", or "" !grub""06:25
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?06:25
desrtelmagozizou; make sure you get all the dependencies06:25
desrtubotu, botsnack06:25
ubotuthanks desrt :)06:25
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nickrudchris_, sudo passwd root, enter your user password (if it asks), then enter the new root password06:25
kevin_<--- is back06:25
seth_kchris_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:25
IIIEarsWelcome back ubotu :)06:25
IIIEars!grub06:26
desrtubotu, status06:26
ubotuwell, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto06:26
chris_thenks!06:26
sizzamwhat's everyone's favorite ftp client?06:26
desrthmm.  i love infobots :)06:26
Computer__Gurugftp06:26
nickrudnautilus06:26
nickrudfor ftp06:26
kevin_gftp here06:26
IIIEarsinfobots are nice06:26
bddebianGnight folks.  Enjoy06:26
sizzami can't get used to  gftp06:26
cafuego!forums 3839806:26
Computer__Guruwhere would i get the kernel config file for the shipped-with-hoary kernel?06:26
ubotuForums: Thread 38398 is: Ubuntu Forums - Dual Boot with windows: where to put the boot loader?06:26
sizzamim used to filezilla on windows06:26
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sizzamalthough filezilla is coming to linux06:27
drcodedd2hi all06:27
kevin_yes it is soon06:27
nickrudheh, now that is a very obscure ubotu reference :)06:27
the_walrusI just installed, and its booted into X, apparently I only have 9MB mem free, out of 1gig06:27
drcodedd2any one mybe know about fax/voice answer machine client server for linux - ubuntu06:27
cafuegothe_walrus: Yes, that's fine.06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , sorry but they are not in there06:27
drcodedd2I Want to use my linux server as answer machine to fax/voice06:27
desrtelmagozizou; they get cleaned up after a while06:27
Computer__Gurui have a simple question about kernel config and no answers06:27
desrtelmagozizou; it's just a cache06:27
the_walruscafuego, 9MB free, out of 1gig? That doesn't really seem fine06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , mmmm...06:27
drcodedd2and my windows to get those fax/voice mail?06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , thnks06:28
nickrudthe_walrus, most of that is cache or such, linux tries to use all your mem well06:28
desrtelmagozizou; what's with the #5 business?06:28
cafuegothe_walrus: linux is not as stupid as Windows. it's using your "free" ram as disk cache. When an application needs it, it will be freed.06:28
IIIEarsdrcodded2 - that sounds like a good idea. - voice message boxes are very handy06:28
the_walruscafuego, ok, that makes more sense, just seems unusual, never had a linux box doing this before06:28
flodinewhat do i need to load for a tar file to work06:28
drcodedd2IIIEars, is there somthing for linux /06:28
desrtthe_walrus; yes you have :)06:28
drcodedd2that I Can use?06:28
elmagozizou#5 desrt , I am trying to do what ure doing with me...I mean that i see your message in red06:28
desrtelmagozizou; oh.  that's just notification.06:29
Computer__Guruwhere do i find the shipped-with-hoary kernel config file?06:29
elmagozizouI guest is not that way06:29
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desrtelmagozizou; it happens because i put your nick at the beginning of the message06:29
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the_walrusdesrt, I've never had a linux box showing this much mem in use, before I installed, my system was showing about 270MB used06:29
nickrudComputer__Guru, /boot/config-your-kernel-version06:29
tritiumComputer__Guru, /boot06:29
IIIEarsdrcodded2 - there must be be sounds like a common request06:29
Computer__Guruty06:29
Computer__Guruthat's all i wanted to know, heh06:29
elmagozizoudesrt, like this?06:29
desrtthe_walrus; well.... it's definitely a good thing :)06:29
cafuegothe_walrus: Was that via 'free' or via other utils?06:29
the_walrusCool :)06:29
desrtelmagozizou; yes.  now you show up in yellow for me06:29
the_walrusvia /proc/meminfo06:30
IIIEarsfreshmeat.org or sourceforge.org is where to look06:30
the_walrussame as I'm lookingat now06:30
desrtthe_walrus; use 'free'06:30
drcodedd2thanx06:30
ubuntu_philcan someone help me out with cd burning. cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus is not working and i don't know what else to do (gnomebaker, graveman do not work)06:30
elmagozizoudesrt; and here?06:30
the_walrus             total       used       free06:30
the_walrusMem:        906660     901504       515606:30
desrtelmagozizou; yup06:30
the_walrusahh, the next line makes sens06:30
the_walruse06:30
elmagozizoured?06:30
cafuegothe_walrus: Then my guess is that you previously had buggy vm behaviour.06:30
desrtthe_walrus; ya.  it's nice.06:30
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elmagozizoudesrt; red?06:30
desrtelmagozizou; yellow06:30
the_walrusI probably screwed up my kernel compile somehow06:30
desrtelmagozizou; it's something that my client does.  you have no control over it06:30
elmagozizouahh ok...06:31
nickrudubuntu_phil, I've given up: I use dd to get a disk if I want to copy it, and use nautilus-cd-burner for writing data. I don't wirte music.06:31
sizzami have two hard drives.   the second gets mounted as /home.  i think my primary drive is going to crash soon. whats the best way to get all that data onto the /home drive and use it as the sole hd?06:31
desrtelmagozizou; and likewise, i have no control over what colour your client makes me show up as06:31
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elmagozizoudesrt; ahh ok06:31
firestormHi. I've installed CUPS in Ubuntu but when I try adding a printer the username/password combo I try doesn't work. I've already typed lppasswd -a root  .. any hints?06:31
cafuegothe_walrus: Yes, you forgot to enable HIGHMEM 4GB06:31
desrtfirestorm; the web interface is disabled06:31
elmagozizoudesrt; thanks for the atention06:31
nickrudfirestorm, try using system-administration-printing06:31
desrtfirestorm; you're supposed to use the gnome printer utilities06:31
cafuegothe_walrus: looks like your kerel didn't find all ram (or do you have integrated vga?)06:31
nickrudfirestorm, top menu bar06:32
the_walruscafuego, I always wondered what that did06:32
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desrtfirestorm; if you want the web interface back you have to modify the cups config file06:32
firestormnickrud: erm using KDE now....is there a Gnome command from a shell I can type?06:32
the_walruscafuego, I dont have integrated mem, I should have a gig of mem there :/06:32
cafuegothe_walrus: Without that option you can only access about 986 or so MB ram.06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; hey are u there?06:32
firestormdesrt: I can access http://localhost:631 but just cannot add printers...asks for a username/password which denies me06:32
cafuegothe_walrus: Then yeah, you need to set HIGHMEM to 4, recompile and reboot.06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; I have an problem with mplayer06:32
the_walruscrap06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; maybe you can help me...06:32
desrtfirestorm; gnome-cups-manager06:33
cafuegothe_walrus: Precompiled ubuntu kernels already have that enabled.06:33
the_walruscafuego, then why do I only have 900MB of ram or so it tells me?06:33
desrtthe_walrus; 900 exactly?06:33
desrtthe_walrus; or 890?06:33
nickrudfirestorm, gnome-cups-manager06:33
cafuegothe_walrus: You on the -386 installer kernel still?06:33
the_walruscafuego, I just installed, so I'm not sure06:34
the_walrusI haven't had a chance to play yet06:34
desrtcafuego; the -386 kernels installed by default don't support himem systems (ie: any more than 890 megs of ram)06:34
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cafuegothe_walrus: Then yes. Install a kernel for your cpu and you'll be fine.06:34
desrt*er06:34
desrtthe_walrus rather06:34
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the_walruscheers guys06:34
desrtcha06:34
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desrtelmagozizou; i don't really use mplayer... but ask your question... maybe someone else knows06:35
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billytwowillywhat's the mplayer question?06:35
cafuegothe_walrus: 'apt-cache search linux-image' should give you  alist of kernels to pick from.06:35
kevin_well later folks it is time for me to go and have a shower, then head off to bed. Cheers and have a great night!!06:35
firestormnickrud, desrt: excelelnt, been able to add a printer, print a test page with gnome-cups-manager....now, how can I set it up so that I could do the same with CUPS web interface?06:35
the_walruscafuego, thanks, I was just googling that06:36
desrtkevin_; cha.06:36
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cafuegothe_walrus: -686 for p2,p3,p4. k7 for athlon.06:36
desrtthe_walrus; don't install the -image package06:36
nickrudfirestorm, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, then go to localhost:63106:36
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, I have a problem with mplayer, I think with the nvidia configuration06:36
desrtinstall linux-686 or linux-k7 or whatever... it pulls in the correct image package, plus the extra modules you need06:36
the_walrusexcellent06:36
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billytwowillyelmagozizou, the nvidia configuration? just use -vo xv06:37
nickrudfirestorm, after you're done, sudo deluser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart , for security06:37
the_walrus686-smp for p4 with HT?06:37
billytwowillyelmagozizou, if that doesn't work than your nvidia card isn't configured properly in x.06:37
desrtthe_walrus; HT is currently off for security reasons06:37
the_walrusoh, i remember reading that06:37
desrtyou can reenable it by modifying grub config06:38
Madpilothi all... is it possible to update Hoary's version of Screem with the stable version from the Screem website? Screem keeps freezing on me...06:38
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desrtjust add "ht=on" to the commandline06:38
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, My nvidia card is fine... I couldt run 3ddesktop until i install the nvidia module etc...06:38
firestormnickrud: ok, and what username/password do I use for the htaccess prompt at localhost:631/admin ?06:38
nickrudah06:39
the_walrusThanks desrt06:39
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, but now mplayer show me an error, and I can play anything06:39
tritiumfirestorm, that's disabled06:39
desrtit's only a problem if you don't trust the other users of your machine06:39
the_walrusi'm the only user06:39
billytwowillyelmagozizou, what error? pm it to me please.06:39
desrtdo you trust yourself? :)06:39
nickrudfirestorm, you need a root password to use a web admin tool06:39
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, let me put the error to you in private06:39
nickrudubotu, tell firestorm about rootsudo06:39
the_walrusnot really :) every reinstall is because I've broken something06:39
sproingiewow, take 2 on openoffice and it still manages to infuriate me06:39
desrtthe_walrus; take yourself out of the sudoers file, then :)06:40
desrtthe_walrus; alot harder to break stuff :)06:40
ugoJDahl: hey...whats that patch you were talking about for krb5...i think im going to need it06:40
the_walrusdesrt, where's the fun in that though ;)06:40
cafuegoNore to the point, you don't need a web admin tool.06:40
desrtthe_walrus; the fun is in trying to hax0r your way back in :)06:40
the_walrusheh, thats a good point06:41
firestormnickrud: I tried the root username/password but it didn't work06:41
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tritiumfirestorm, as I told you, it's disabled06:41
cafuegofirestorm: There is no root password.06:41
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cafuego!root password06:41
ubotuUbuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.06:41
adwaitaloha ppl06:41
nickrudheh06:41
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desrtoh!  awesome idea06:42
nickrudseveral things here: gnome-cups-manager is not as flexible as localhost:63106:42
JDahlugo, you dont need to worry about until everything else is setup... I think the you might need to build your own aklog for authentication to work, but you can setup everything else first and test that you can list directories etc.06:42
desrti should extend my passwordless sudo thing to work with ssh-agent06:42
desrtthat would rule06:42
sproingiehow do i convince openoffice to put 1+ in a table cell without it thinking i *really* wanted a right-justified number 1?06:42
nickrudtwo, web admin tools exist, and sudo does not work with them06:42
VacendakJust finished first Ubuntu install. Whats root password?06:42
desrt"1+" work?06:42
desrthahahah06:43
the_walrussproingie, its under format, set the cell type to text06:43
sproingiedesrt: i don't want it in quotes06:43
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desrt!root password06:43
ubotuUbuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.06:43
tritiumVacendak, there is none06:43
imaekDoes anyone know of a manga viewer for linux?06:43
desrtthat comes in handy :)06:43
sproingiedesrt: i want it to stop second-guessing me06:43
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VacendakCool. Thanks06:43
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desrtsproingie; just thinking maybe the quotes would make it stop second-guessing you :)06:43
eyda|monis there a seperate sources.list for amd64 bit ubuntu? if so where can I find what it is?06:43
desrteyda|mon; do you have amd64 installed?06:43
VacendakWorks perfect. Thanks Again06:43
eyda|mondesrt: nope, I just swapped mobo and cpu  though06:44
desrteyda|mon; fairly sure it's just the same file...06:44
ugoJDahl: well the issue right now is a compilation failure because some kerberos function calls are missing06:44
firestormnickrud, and others: thanks, didn't realise ubuntu was root-passwordless06:44
nickrudfirestorm, if you really want to use the localhost:631 from the web, then do sudo passwd root , and create a root password06:44
desrtmy sources.list contains no mention of powerpc06:44
eyda|mondesrt: so nothing optimized for 64bit?06:44
desrteyda|mon; it automatically detects your arch and installs accordingly06:44
ugochecking for krb5_princ_size... no06:44
ugochecking for krb5_principal_get_comp_string... no06:44
ugochecking for krb5_524_convert_creds... no06:44
ugochecking for krb524_convert_creds_kdc... no06:44
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sproingiedesrt: yes, but it puts it in quotes then06:44
eyda|mondesrt: cool06:44
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ugoapparently those are the culprints06:44
sproingiefuck it.  word works under wine06:45
desrteyda|mon; or, rather, apt just knows06:45
eyda|mondesrt: what does your uname -a say?06:45
chaps0063bob2: hey bob, you there?06:45
desrteyda|mon; which box?06:45
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bob2chaps0063: ?06:45
eyda|mondesrt: uname -m actually. on your ppc ?06:45
sproingiemaybe kword won't try to be too smart for me06:45
tritiumnickrud, does that work for you?06:45
ugoJDahl: i did a compile and noticed the errors were as a result...thing is i need kerberos because andrew afs works with it...06:45
firestormnickrud: If I've sudo passwd root then how can I later undo it to disable root login?06:46
desrteyda|mon; ppc for one, ppc64 for the other06:46
JDahlugo, hmm... that's not what I was thinking of. But you were able to build it before, right? just with a different prefix...06:46
chaps0063bob2: I've decided, I'm just going to format, the apache error was too weird, I was just getting started on this install anyways..06:46
Madpilotsproingie: lead your cell with a single quote -- ' -- and it'll treat it as a pure text string.06:46
ugoJDahl: yeah...it built alright...06:46
MadpilotI use it to keep OO from fscking with my date formats...06:46
bob2chaps0063: that seems like rather massive overkill06:46
eyda|mondesrt: apt might be using the info from uname -m ... or some other kernel info. Maybe all I need to do is up the kernel.06:46
nickrudtritium, yes, I actually use it mostly so I can pick the name of my printers, and not be limited to gnome-cups-manager's names06:46
desrteyda|mon; i really don't know.  i think it might just be built-in to apt06:46
tritiumnickrud, cool06:46
firestormnickrud: sorry, found it in RootSudo wiki :)06:47
sproingieMadpilot: it keeps the single quote06:47
chaps0063bob2: I come from a long time of using windows...lol, formatting is no problem!06:47
desrteyda|mon; my ppc64 mac has a ppc64 kernel on it, and apt still knows to download powerpc packages06:47
Madpilotsproingie: really? what else is in the cell?06:47
ugoJDahl: but i have to specifically enable kerberos during the config...06:47
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sproingieMadpilot: i entered '1+, and the cell now contains '1+06:47
chaps0063bob2: I was used to formatting every two weeks.06:47
chaps0063lol06:47
sproingieMadpilot: i want it to contain 1+06:47
ugoJDahl: ./configure-libafs --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --with-krb5 --prefix=/usr/local/ --exec-prefix=/usr/local/06:47
desrtLinux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux06:47
sproingieMadpilot: i have similar issues with 2/06:47
desrt^^ downloads powerpc06:47
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Madpilotsproingie: have you asked on #openoffice.org?06:48
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sproingieMadpilot: ah, that's the channel name06:48
ugoJDahl: somedays you gotta love this os....06:48
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JDahlugo, I am not sure, but I dont think I used --with-krb5 when I built it, and maybe it doesnt matter for the client - I definitely matters for the server06:48
JDahlit matters for the server...06:49
Madpilotsproingie: on my Hoary install of OO, entering '1+ in a cell displays 1+ in the cell...06:49
desrtMadpilot; spreadsheet or wordprocessor?06:49
eyda|mondesrt: well, ppc64 is still powerpc so I'm not surprised06:49
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Madpilotsproingie: spreadsheet06:49
desrteyda|mon; amd64 is still 386...06:49
JDahlugo, and yes, afs is way to complicated to use on linux - I dont what happened; it wasnt always this hard06:49
desrtMadpilot; i think he wants it for a table in the wordprocessor06:49
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chaps0063so bob2, would you recommend apache2 or apache on this next install?06:50
sproingieMadpilot: it leaves the single quote in in the word proc06:50
Madpilotdesrt: ah, different prob. haven't used tables in OO Text yet06:50
firestormOne thing I have noticed is that general users can't really select COLOUR or B&W when printing. Seems as though admin enables one or the other from admin tools. Any userspace workaround?06:50
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bob2chaps0063: apache206:50
eyda|mondesrt: no. uname -m shows amd64 for those who have it.06:50
sproingiedesrt: smart06:50
eyda|mondesrt: not i68606:50
chaps0063bob2: ok, and what would be the proper command for apache2, php, mysql to install.06:50
desrteyda|mon; and uname -m shows ppc64 for me06:51
desrtnot ppc06:51
chaps0063and DAMN there is a good ass storm coming.06:51
sproingiedesrt: i used to prefer abiword ... back in the day when it wasn't crashy as hell06:51
desrtLinux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux06:51
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eyda|mondesrt: I think apt would be clever enough to deduce that to be ppc tho :P06:51
eyda|monnot that far off06:51
tritiumfirestorm, can you setup separate printers, one b&w and one color?06:51
desrtsproingie; ya.. abiword has some stability issues... it's getting better again lately, though06:51
ugoJDahl: do you use kerberos?06:51
desrteyda|mon; i seriously think it's just built-in06:51
bob2chaps0063: as I gave you earlier06:51
chaps0063bob2: ok..is it possible we could revisit that command as I did not save it?06:52
eyda|mondesrt: how would it know what packages to download if there's no indication that you have a ppc? It has to guess it somehow, right? uname -m seems reasonable enough06:52
desrteyda|mon; no mention of 'uname' in the source of apt, except in the autoconf stuff06:52
eyda|mondesrt: well, /proc/cpuinfo then06:52
desrteyda|mon; because apt is a powerpc binary06:52
bob2chaps0063: sudo aptitude install mysql-server php4-mysql apache2 libapache2-mod-php406:52
desrtit's a chicken-and-egg t hing06:52
desrtand you wouldn't use /proc/cpuinfo06:52
bob2chaps0063: I assume; you never did say what you meant by "mysql".06:52
firestormtritium: good idea06:53
desrteyda|mon; apt knows to download for powerpc because apt itself is for powerpc06:53
chaps0063bob2: php and mysql.06:53
eyda|mondesrt: so you're theorizing there's no way to convert a 32-bit installation to a 64-bit?06:53
bob2chaps0063: I don't know what that means.06:53
firestormtritium: and is it possible for users to get a nice print dialog instead of manually typing in 'lpr -P<printername> or something similar with lp or mpage?06:53
chaps0063bob2: to use php to query mysql06:53
desrteyda|mon; more or less06:53
chaps0063so yeah, the php4-mysql I'm assuming is correct.06:53
bob2chaps0063: then php4-mysql06:53
desrteyda|mon; think about it... it would be a fairly impossible process06:54
Madpilot!lamp06:54
ubotulamp is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary06:54
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desrteyda|mon; you'd have to simultaneously swap the libc and all of the applications06:54
JDahlugo, as long as the client uses the correct protocol it should be fine... it shouldn't matter if you build it using heimdal or kerberos. I think I used Kerberos for a server I built on Debian/Sarge kernel 2.4, but I managed to build a 2.6 client also, but I dont remember if I used kerberos... I am looking at Debian docs right now06:54
Madpilotchaps0063: sorry, haven't been following, but have you seen the link ubotu just posted?06:54
desrteyda|mon; not to mention the kernel (somehow)06:54
tritiumfirestorm, only from applications that use the gnome cups interface, as far as I'm aware (excluding kde apps, which I don't know about)06:54
eyda|mondesrt: maybe apt looks at the kernel header files when it's being built06:54
ugoJDahl: paste url pls06:54
r0dwhat linux header files do i use w/ the amd64 chip?06:54
chaps0063Madpilot: yes.06:54
desrteyda|mon; no.  ./configure calls uname during building06:55
chaps0063Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary06:55
desrteyda|mon; fairly sure that's how it gets it06:55
eyda|mondesrt: fair enough06:55
eyda|monsounds plausible06:55
firestormtritium: and finally...using gnome-cups-manager means it automatically names my printer queue and I can't seem to change it...any hints?06:55
tritiumfirestorm, no, nickrud was just commenting on that earlier06:56
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ksmurfDamn Gnome install didn't go well06:56
firestormtritium: ah thanks06:56
eyda|monI'll have to reinstall then06:56
eyda|monsucks06:56
chaps0063Madpilot: nice..thanks.06:56
ksmurfIt won't start06:56
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desrteyda|mon; the process, if it was possible, would be extremely painful06:56
Tattooim in desperate need of help06:56
Madpilotchaps0063: np. sounds like that's what you need?06:56
dapimp53OMG this is so nice now that my wireless works06:56
dapimp53LOL06:56
desrteyda|mon; so you'd want to reinstall anyway :)06:56
chaps0063Madpilot: yeah, sure does..06:56
dapimp53My last thing I have is my sound. I need to get my sound to work06:56
eyda|mondesrt: update apt to get 64-bit packages, then upgrade the kernel. Doesn't sound too bad?06:57
chaps0063Madpilot: had one to many, and the fact that I never heard of LAMP.06:57
Tattooi have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.06:57
Tattoofor my driver06:57
desrteyda|mon; you can't have 64bit packages installed with a 32bit kernel06:57
desrtnothing would work06:57
desrtso you'd have to do the kernel first06:57
eyda|mondesrt: fine. that's not too hard either :P06:57
desrteyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit programs with 32bit libs... so you'd have to do libs first06:57
desrteyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit libs with 32bit programs... so you'd have to do programs first06:57
Madpilotchaps0063: neither had I a few weeks ago, but it's the 'standard' server setup. I'm running it on my box right now, behind firestarter so it's not publicly accessible...06:57
eyda|monheh06:58
desrteyda|mon; and now you've got trouble06:58
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B-Lanyone know how i can set to use kdm instead of gdm?06:58
tritiumeyda|mon, you can have a 64 bit install, and a 32 bit install in a chroot06:58
chaps0063Madpilot: well I want this as a "testing" on my laptop for when I am away from the net to develop sites.06:58
eyda|monok, I'm convinced just to reinstall :P06:58
tritiumB-L, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" (using gdm also works), and select kdm06:58
desrt:)06:58
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tfortgah.. anyone here play wow at all?06:59
delltonytritium, figured out my overheat problem it was the obvious06:59
tritiumdelltony, what was it?06:59
desrtworld of warcrack?06:59
tforti'm having a new issue with the 1.6 patch randomly freezing, hehe06:59
delltonywell kinda obvious i should say06:59
tfortdesrt,yes, and i need my fi06:59
tfortfix06:59
desrtfreak06:59
TattooHELLO06:59
ses|ubuntu with kde?06:59
Madpilotchaps0063: that's what mine is for. want to learn PHP, for the heck of it06:59
delltonyi took out my fans and went holy bork06:59
desrt#ubuntu isn't for crack addicts :P06:59
B-Lthx06:59
tforthaha06:59
desrtses|; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:59
delltonythe inside was like the lint guard from a dryer07:00
Tattoogrrr07:00
TattooSOMEONE HELP ME07:00
chaps0063Madpilot: well I do a bit of web design, www.bredinger.com is my home page, basically I just have a blog and such ATM.07:00
tritiumdelltony, hah07:00
ses|thanks07:00
fortysixand2yeah, yelling will help07:00
delltonyi pealed it off and wala  temp is 4507:00
Tattoosorry07:00
Tattookinda frustrated07:00
fortysixand2:p07:00
ses|thanks07:00
chaps0063Madpilot: as my site's bandwdith usage goes through the roof cause a link was posted...lol.07:00
desrtTattoo; uh07:00
fortysixand2Tattoo:  what;'s up?07:00
nickrudfirestorm, I had to walk away for a while, have you got your printer queue set up the way you want it?07:00
delltonyfans were workking but couldn't do nothing i should have known07:00
desrtTattoo; i don't think you've actually asked any questions yet07:00
Tattooi need help installing a 'module'07:00
Tattooyes i did07:00
JDahlugo, this is a very old link: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816. The debian docs are /usr/share/doc/libopenafs-doc, but then you have to install their old AFS version. As I recall those old docs recommends using Kerberos, but maybe you should try to build it with --with-krb5 and see what happens07:00
tritiumTattoo, you need to ask a more specific question than "make a module or something"07:01
fortysixand2ok, which one?07:01
Tattooi have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.07:01
Tattooyea07:01
desrtTattoo; so good job at getting frustrated for people not answering your non-existant question07:01
Tattoosome guys said07:01
Tattooguy07:01
delltonyglad it fixed though i was beinginig to crank out the tools and start doing laptop repair man07:01
delltonyhaha07:01
Tattoosaid that its not a driver07:01
Tattooi gotta install a driver for my antenna07:01
Madpilotchaps0063: I should add a bit more to ubotu's LAMP link, so ppl know why it's being posted...!07:01
Tattooto connect to another computer for internet access07:01
emXTattoo: you have a wireless card?07:01
Tattoono07:01
Tattoomy antenna plugs into a usb port07:01
dravineel crapola!07:01
desrtthat's wireless.07:01
Tattooi know07:01
delltonyoh but i did learn some cool stuff in the making of figuring it out, i learned how to manual scale the processor with cpu govenor and setstep07:01
firestormnickrud: yup got it now...had to use CUPS so that I could give it a sane name though :)  And added 2 entries, one for b+w, another for colour...thansk for your perserverence!07:01
tritiumdelltony, I'm glad you found out the problem07:01
desrtTattoo; do you know what kind of card it is?07:01
chaps0063Madpilot: yes, I had no clue what LAMP was, I thought it was something I lit when it was dark ;-)07:01
fortysixand2what card is it?07:01
Tattooits not a card07:01
fortysixand2oops, too slow07:02
desrtTattoo; ...07:02
dravinewhat chipset07:02
dravinetat?07:02
Tattooits a usb port07:02
Tattoodunno07:02
desrtTattoo; still a wireless card07:02
nickrudfirestorm, np07:02
desrtTattoo; what brand?07:02
Tattooi dont know07:02
delltonyyeah me too thanks for your help and the rest of you that tried07:02
Tattooagere07:02
fortysixand2what product is it?  model number, manufacturer, etc?07:02
Tattooumm07:02
TattooAgere07:02
Tattooi dont have the model number07:02
Tattooi have a serial number07:02
emXTattoo: that might help07:02
Tattooits:07:02
dapimp53I have a Realtec sound card and I can't seem to get it to work in Ubuntu. Any ideas?07:02
desrtagere isn't mentioned on the wireless page07:02
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delltonytritium, 53C is about normal correct?07:03
Tattoo02UT3141467307:03
glickits saturday night for godsakes why dont you people go out or something?07:03
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weisdapimp53, is it AC97?07:03
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dapimp53desrt: are you having problems with your wireless network?07:03
desrtTattoo; when the card plugged in, do 'lsusb'07:03
desrtdapimp53; not really07:03
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TattooWTF07:03
Tattoooops07:03
nickrudI'm at work, what about you, glick :)07:03
dapimp53its alC25007:03
Tattoocaps07:03
chaps0063glick: I have about 5-6 beers down now...is that good enough, lol.07:03
fortysixand2glick: I prefer reading and learning to "going out"07:03
desrtTattoo; does one of those look like a wireless card?07:03
glicknickrud, i just rode the bull07:03
Tattoodesrt, can i PM you07:03
desrtTattoo; no07:03
Tattoogdit07:03
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weistry loading the i810 audio driver07:04
tritiumdelltony, I believe so07:04
Tattoothere too much commotion07:04
nickrudhow many times did you get thrown :)07:04
weisthat's worked for me in the past with onboard AC97 audio07:04
emXTattoo: it's better to resolve these issues in the channel so that other folks can see the answer07:04
dapimp53weis: how do I do that?07:04
Tattooumm07:04
JDahlugo, that's without --with-krb5, of course07:04
Tattoohow07:04
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desrtemX; represent.07:04
desrt:)07:04
Tattoobecause 2390487923 peple are talking at once07:04
Tattooand i cant even get the answer07:04
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glickheh riding the bull is when your doing a chick you slap her ass and tell her her sister was better, and hang on07:04
weisyou could modprobe -i snd_i81007:04
weisI think that's the right module07:04
delltonywow i feel like i have a new pc again haha07:04
desrtTattoo; did you do lsusb yet?07:04
Tattoono07:04
Tattooi dont know how07:04
emXTattoo: just be patient -- there are people that want to help; it takes a little time, though07:04
Tattooim new07:04
Madpilot!lamp07:05
ubotulamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary07:05
desrtoh07:05
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desrtdo you know how to get to a terminal?07:05
Tattoolol07:05
Tattooyea07:05
desrtdo lsusb in there07:05
Tattooand then?07:05
tritiumglick, please, enough of that07:05
useruserhow do i find out what verion of ubuntu I'm running?07:05
desrtlook to see if one looks like your network card07:05
glickhaha07:05
dapimp53weis: FATAL: Module snd_i810 not found.07:05
Madpilotchaps0063: just revised ubotu's LAMP entry. better now, I think!07:05
Tattoowell ill have to brb07:05
Tattoocuz i gotta restart and run the live CD07:05
desrtoh.07:05
Tattoojust type lsusb ?07:05
tritiumuseruser, lsb_release -a07:05
desrtfor what it's worth....07:05
glickcomputers are ok, but you cant comb your fingers through their hair07:05
emXTattoo: yeah07:05
chaps0063Madpilot: sounds better...07:05
desrti doubt you'll get this card to work07:05
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Tattoodude07:06
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Tattoowould you please listen07:06
delltonyhey tritium you know if they have fixed the last -d bug yet?07:06
Computer__Gurui didnt mean to do that07:06
Tattooi need a driver!!07:06
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Tattoofor the antenna07:06
desrtTattoo; one might not exist.07:06
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Computer__Gurucompiling a kernel is so phun07:06
chaps0063Madpilot: I never even heard of it as lamp before.07:06
Tattoohold on07:06
tritiumdelltony, I'm not sure, sorry07:06
Tattooyo07:06
desrtTattoo; in fact, one probably doesn't07:06
Tattooyes07:06
emXTattoo: lsusb will give us more information about your wireless device07:06
Tattooon the CD07:06
Tattooif you explore it07:06
ugoJDahl: looks like all the files get installed in /usr/local/ alright07:06
Tattooit has a driver folder with linux and tells you what to do07:06
Tattooexcept i dont understand it07:06
delltonyits fine but my question is this it is infact a bug and not some russian dude trying to access me right?07:06
desrtoh.  interesting.07:06
userusertritium: thanks. seems I'm running warty - should I upgrade as for debian, change sources.list and then dist-upgrade to hoary (?)07:06
desrtok.  that's good information.07:06
glickdamn i gotta crap load of mp3 files i gotta sort07:06
glickitll take me hours :(07:06
Tattoothats why i wanna pm07:06
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Tattooto tell you waht it says07:07
ugoJDahl: but not in openafs under that directory rather in /usr/local/bin and so on07:07
desrtyou can just say here07:07
paxthat lamp kiwi is a mess.07:07
Tattoono07:07
Tattooits long07:07
chaps0063Madpilot: you recommended bluefish to me right?07:07
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weistry ac97_codec instead of i81007:07
desrtthen use a pastebin07:07
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Tattoooh07:07
Tattoookay07:07
emXTattoo: can you paste it in paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:07
emX?07:07
tritiumuseruser, yes07:07
fortysixand2http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:07
fortysixand2oops, too late again!07:07
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emXfortysixand2: ;-)07:07
dapimp53weis: no error... Let me check to see if it work07:07
fortysixand2me = teh slow  :-(07:07
haithi, i need a direct conect client, please07:08
emXhait: apt-cache search dcc07:08
Tattood07:08
emXhait: on the command line...07:08
Tattoohere is the installation instructions:07:08
Tattoohttp://pastebin.com/31481507:08
Madpilotchaps0063: I think so. sometime this morning?07:08
haitokm thks07:08
chaps0063Madpilot: depends where you are...07:08
Madpilotchaps0063: install Screem too07:08
haitand a graphic client?07:08
JDahlugo, that's mildly annoying, but ok... google abit on how to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs. There your school probably provides most of the info (cells etc)07:08
chaps0063Madpilot: Ahhhhhhhhhhh! ;-)07:09
desrtah.  wavelan card07:09
Tattooeh?07:09
Madpilotchaps0063: heh. OK, about 12.5hrs ago, then... :)07:09
emXhait: dcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)07:09
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chaps0063Madpilot: it wasnt that long, where are you located?07:09
userusertritium: thanks07:09
desrtTattoo; holy crap this is involved07:09
Tattoodesrt, so what?07:09
Tattooyea i know07:09
Tattooi have know idea what to do07:09
VacendakI've been running ubuntu for about 15 minutes now  and it is really slick but I can't understand the root password system. What are the advantages over the traditional *nix way?07:10
tritiumuseruser, :)07:10
fortysixand2if it's a usb thing, why do you need pcmcia sources?07:10
chaps0063Madpilot: with the LAMP wiki, is it not required to uncomment anything in httpd.conf for php usage?07:10
tritiumVacendak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:10
Tattoono idea07:10
Madpilotchaps0063: BC, Canada. Pacific timezone. it must have been around 0930 my time, it's now 2210 local...07:10
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fortysixand2seems odd to me07:10
Tattooyo07:10
Tattoodo you just want me to go to the terminal and type lsusb07:10
desrtTattoo; the fact that you can't be in ubuntu and on IRC at the same time makes this almost impossible07:10
haitemX: yeah, i know but dcgui client is bad...07:10
desrtTattoo; no.  we know what type of card you have now, from the docs07:10
Madpilotchaps0063: I don't think so. I didn't change anything,and PHP runs on my machine...07:10
Tattooumm07:10
emXemX: how so?07:10
Tattooim on windows right now07:10
Tattooi know07:11
emXhait: how so?07:11
Tattooill have to restart with the cd in07:11
ugoJDahl: sure...07:11
desrtlemme see if i can make some sense of this documentation07:11
dapimp53weis: nope no sound07:11
Tattoowait07:11
Tattoothats not all of it07:11
Tattoodo you need all of it?07:11
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chaps0063Madpilot: ok, I will follow it to a T and let you know how it turns out07:11
Tattoothe system requirements and all that?07:11
weisdapimp53, did you get a mixer set up too?07:11
dapimp53no07:11
weisI think it's MAKEDEV mixer under /dev07:12
emXVacendak: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RootSudo07:12
weisbut that could be way oldskool07:12
bob2you shouldn't ever need MAKEDEV on ubuntu07:12
chaps0063Madpilot: gotta love cable internet, 510KB/s07:12
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desrtTattoo; does the driver work on 2.6?07:12
haiti'm use wulfor rigth now... but this is unestable07:12
desrtTattoo; from what i'm seeing here, it's for linux 2.407:12
Tattoowhat is 2.607:12
desrtTattoo; that's probably trouble07:12
Tattoo*sigh*07:12
Madpilotchaps0063: not sure how the dailup ppl manage w/ Linux... or at all, really... :)07:12
desrtTattoo; the version of linux you have07:12
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VacendakThanks. makes sense. I am very impressed07:12
Tattooso im not going to be able to run linux am i?07:12
Tattoowell07:13
desrtTattoo; definitely not very easily07:13
Tattoowith intenrent access07:13
Tattootypos07:13
dapimp53Says it doesnt know how to make device "mixer"07:13
chaps0063Madpilot: no clue...it must be ashame, my girlfriend is still on AOL...07:13
emXVacendak: i like it alot, too; i administer solaris and debian boxes, too; i've come to prefer sudo07:13
weisdapimp53, doesn't www.viaarena.com have some linux drivers for your sound?07:13
desrtTattoo; i guess it doesn't just detect it when you boot up with it plugged in?07:13
chaps0063Madpilot: its terrible when I'm at her house..07:13
Tattooeh07:13
Tattooi guess not07:13
useruserhm. I'm trying to upgrade from warty to hoary, but dist-upgrade is holding lots of packages back. there seem to be lots of unsatisfied dependencies according to aptitude. is this usual?07:13
emXTattoo: other wireless devices are rather inexpensive...07:13
desrt:(07:13
Tattooim not buying anything07:13
chaps0063unfortunately, my modem doesnt work in linux, so I can't use my dialup account.07:13
Tattoobrb07:13
Tattooima just go do that lsusb07:14
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Tattoowould that help at all?07:14
VacendakI am a Suse guy but I am loving this07:14
desrtnot really07:14
Tattoogrr07:14
Tattoowhat do i need to do?07:14
desrtwe already know it's a wavelan07:14
the_walruswhats a normal transfer rate for an ATA100 HD?07:14
fortysixand2does that live cd contain the wavelan modules?  Couldn't he/she just "modprobe wavelan_cs"?07:14
Tattoome?07:14
fortysixand2yeah07:14
Tattoo<-- dude07:15
emXVacendak: suse is nice, too; i'm quite a fan of the Debian-eque linuxes, though07:15
Tattooand how do i know if i have wavelan mods07:15
fortysixand2ok, he then :)07:15
tritiumTattoo, try "modinfo wavelan_cs"07:15
Tattoohow can i find out07:15
Tattoohmm07:15
Tattooill brb07:15
Tattoogotta restart now =(07:15
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fortysixand2when it's plugged in, what does lsmod give07:15
Tattoorofl07:15
Tattooi dont know07:15
emX??07:15
nickrudthe_walrus, I seem to get about 40MB/sec on my disks, your milage may vary07:15
Tattoohold on a second07:15
tritiumTattoo, wait.  That just tells you info about the module.07:15
Tattooill brb07:15
jcapotehas anyone in here used suse?07:16
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Tattooso07:16
Tattoowhat do i need to do?07:16
Vacendakemx: Think this is a going to be my distro of choice07:16
tritiumTattoo, just so you know.  lsmod to load it07:16
nickrudjcapote, well, about 5 years ago :)07:16
La_PaRCaHey guys. I updated to hoary from warty and now all my stuff is in english. How do I change my Locale?07:16
jcapoteI wanted someone to give me a comparison between ubuntu and suse 9.307:16
desrttritium; ?07:16
fortysixand2lmod doesn't load, does it?   thought modprobe did07:16
fortysixand2lsmod, I mean07:16
Tattoohey07:17
tritiumdesrt, oops, modprobe ;)07:17
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tritiumthanks for catching taht07:17
emXfortysixand2: yeah, modprove does.07:17
desrttritium; np :P07:17
tritiumTattoo, I'm out of my mind ;)07:17
Tattoowait07:17
Tattoolisten:07:17
emXs/modprove/modprobe07:17
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TattooTo unpack the Linux PCMCIA package, copy it to the07:17
Tattoo       current working directory and type:07:17
Tattoo       % tar xzvf pcmcia-cs-3.1.29.tar.gz07:17
Tattoohow do i do that07:17
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desrtTattoo; while you're out picking up your new network card, grab some valium07:17
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emXVacendak: i've also been getting into the *BSDs of late -- especially OpenBSD.07:17
fortysixand2I don't think you don't need to do that, since it's USB07:17
Tattoosigh07:17
Tattoothen what!07:17
ksmurfOk when I try to log into my new install I am kicked out of the session right away with an error about not being able to create a ~/.gnome dir.  What does this mean?07:18
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ugoJDahl: hmm...do you know of any issues with reiserfs?07:18
Tattoohow do i change directorys in a terminal07:18
desrti should take the BSD hal for a spin07:18
emXksmurf: do you have write permissions in your home directory07:18
nickrudTattoo, if you think you need to compile the pcmcia stuff yourself, take a deap breath, and rethink07:18
desrtTattoo; cd07:18
Tattoocd what07:18
Tattoolike07:18
desrtcd newdirectory07:18
ksmurfemX how should I check?07:18
useruserfor example, I can't upgrade mozilla-firefox because of     --- libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) (UNAVAILABLE)07:18
Tattooif i wanted to go to a director on my desktop named mole07:18
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useruserwhat's that all about?07:19
desrtcd Desktop/mole07:19
Tattoohmm07:19
JDahlugo, no.. what issues would that be?07:19
Tattoowell what do i need to do?07:19
emXksmurf: 'ls -l /path/to/homedirectory'; probably 'ls -l /home/ksmurf'07:19
thr1cenetBSD =] 07:19
holycowuseruser, running breezy?07:19
nickruduseruser, something is wrong with /etc/apt/sources.list07:19
holycowor using a non ubuntu repository?07:19
desrtemX; ~07:19
ksmurfemX not on this box but on my wifes07:19
VacendakemX: played with the BSDs, don't like the naming conventions but can't beat the security of OPENBSD even if the lead developer talks trash about linux.07:19
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ksmurfemX i'll check07:19
Tattoowell what do i need to do?07:19
emXdesrt: ;-)07:19
La_PaRCaHey, I just updated from hoary to warty, and I had everything in spanish before. How come everything is in english now?07:20
emXdesrt: didn't assume it was his user.07:20
La_PaRCaWhere can I change my gnome locale?07:20
userusernickrud: probably - I have hoary universe multiverse and hoary-security main restricted07:20
userusernickrud: should there be more?07:20
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Tattooi want linux on this computer so bad its not funny07:20
desrtwow07:20
chaps0063Madpilot: working on LAMP now..07:20
desrtmadwifi is well-maintained07:20
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benplautwait... i missed something... what was the problem?07:21
fortysixand2rofl @ tritium07:21
Tattoogrr07:21
Tattooyo07:21
benplautohhh07:21
Tattoois there ANYTHING i can do withouth having to buy something07:21
benplautwireless trouble07:21
Tattooyes07:21
Tattooi hate this stupid crap07:21
benplautprobably not07:21
Tattooif my bitch mom would get cable07:21
jcapotedoes ubuntu have an easy way to manage the changing of wireless networks07:21
emXTattoo: sheesh...07:21
jcapotelike say you have a static ip at home but at a friends house you use dhcp07:21
useruserholycow: no, trying to upgrade warty to hoary07:21
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benplauttry GTKwifi07:21
Tattooi need to install the driver07:21
desrtTattoo; seriously... valium would help a lot07:21
aruTattoo: maybe you should get a job and buy your own cable07:21
tritiumTattoo, calm down, man.  No need to talk about your own mom that way.07:21
Tattoo<--- is 1507:22
nickruduseruser, I recommend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles, the more organized version.07:22
benplaut<--- is 1307:22
Tattoocant get a job07:22
desrtTattoo; we'd never have guessed07:22
aruok, maybe you should get a paper route07:22
emXTattoo: assuming you're in the US, you are legally employable.07:22
Tattoookay07:22
Tattoono sir07:22
emXYMMV in other countries...07:22
ugoJDahl: i just read something wrt locking07:22
tritiumfortysixand2, no wonder he didn't get the Fantasy Island reference ;)07:22
Tattooim not07:22
Tattoobecause i havent a way back and forth07:22
benplautTattoo: clean spyware/adware/virii from Windows computers ;)07:22
ugoJDahl: just asking if you had some preknowlesge07:22
Tattoomy mother works07:22
benplautthat's what i do :)07:22
Tattooand we only have one car07:22
fortysixand2can you take the card back and get a new one?07:22
Tattoookay07:22
Tattooget back on the subject07:22
Tattoono07:23
Tattooits not a card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:23
thr1ceit is a card07:23
emXTattoo: s/card/device07:23
benplautwhat is it?07:23
desrtTattoo; it is.07:23
fortysixand2ok, forget it07:23
emXbenplaut: wireless usb07:23
Tattooits a fucking usb port thats been in this bitch for 8 years07:23
aruTattoo: come into #ubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss you getting a job :)07:23
desrt"wireless card" == something that does wifi that's not a base station07:23
emXdesrt: :-)07:23
fortysixand2I quit07:23
ZerboxxTattoo: It's a usb wireless device?07:23
Tattooi guess07:23
tritiumTattoo, please tone down the language, and calm down a bit as we try to assist you07:23
Tattooall i know is07:23
desrtfortysixand2; wise. :)07:23
Tattooi plug it into a usb port...and it works07:24
La_PaRCaWhere can I change my gnome locale?07:24
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desrtLa_PaRCa; from the login screen07:24
benplautyou can pick up a PCI (or maybe USB) card for... $2007:24
ZerboxxTattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; just pick a different language07:24
Tattoo*sigh*07:24
Computer__Gurumake modules is taking a quick minute07:24
TattooIM NOT BUYING NOTHING07:24
La_PaRCadesrt, its not working.07:24
desrt:(07:24
benplautOK, then you won't have internet07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; what language?07:24
Tattoono07:24
Tattoothere is a way07:24
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ZerboxxTattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number07:24
Tattoowithout buying something07:24
La_PaRCadesrt, spanish07:24
Tattooi dont know the model number07:24
Tattooi know the serial number07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; did you install language-pack-es ?07:24
Computer__Guruname brans?07:24
emXTattoo: there is a way, but it's going to require a good deal of familiarity with linux07:24
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tritiumAnd more patience than you're showing07:25
Tattooand the brand is Agere Systems07:25
desrtLa_PaRCa; better question, i guess... did you pick spanish as your language during the installer?07:25
Computer__Gurusince when did manufacturers start monopolizing the pc market?07:25
emXTattoo: we can only help you so much;07:25
Tattooeh07:25
emXTattoo: we'd like to help, though.07:25
La_PaRCadesrt, um, its not there for some reason. used to be there before the update. go figure.07:25
chaps0063I followed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is httpd.conf?07:25
Tattooapparently not07:25
mgcrossquestion: I have a number of full DVDs that I dumped to my HD before comming to Korea...how the heck do I play them as a dvd...not just the individual tracks, one at a time? WHere are the menues?07:25
desrtLa_PaRCa; did you move to breezy?07:25
Tattooi've been here for half an hour07:25
benplautemX: hate to be a pessimest, but after 3 months struggling with my first card (and learning tons about linux in the process), i ended up buying a new card. sometimes it... just plain doesn't work07:25
Computer__Guruin /etc/apache/07:25
Tattooand all you do is bitch at me07:26
Computer__Gurui think heh07:26
nickrudTattoo, a whole half hour :)07:26
La_PaRCadesrt, nope, from warty to hoary. needless to say it didnt go completely smooth07:26
userusernickrud: thanks, that did the trick07:26
emXbenplaut: i've been there, too; wireless is rough.07:26
desrtLa_PaRCa; try apt-get install language-pack-es language-support-es07:26
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benplautemX: i'm still there :)07:26
desrtLa_PaRCa; maybe the files got lost in the upgrade or something07:26
emXbenplaut: me too.07:26
benplautstupid old version of wireless-tools...07:26
emXbenplaut: and with all sorts of wireless to boot.07:26
La_PaRCadesrt, yeah. lots of stuff got lost for some reason or other, not sure.07:26
Tattoothis totally sucks07:27
tritiumTattoo, we've been trying to help you.  No need to insult those who have helped you.07:27
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Tattoono one has helped me because the thing still isnt working07:27
fortysixand2I bet a reboot, insert the DEVICE, and type "modprobe wavelan_cs" would work07:27
emXTattoo: it's very difficult to support wireless hardware; lots of manufacturers insist on keeping their specs closed.07:27
tritiumTattoo, yes, several have tried.07:27
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nickrudTattoo, maybe if you can do a bit of work, like getting us the exact model of the thing you want to work07:27
benplautTattoo: first of all, it's not definate that someone even knows what to do... and a half hour isn't alot. i've been in this channel all day :)07:27
Tattoo'tried'07:27
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La_PaRCadesrt, might have something to do with me not having enough space with the partition to cache all the packages for the dist-upgrade :P07:28
desrttritium; is that like a selective +m?07:28
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fortysixand2whose IP could that be?07:28
desrtLa_PaRCa; oh man.  i ran out of space during a dist-upgrade once... it wasn't happy.07:28
dbwdesrt: yes07:28
emXheh07:28
tritiumdesrt, it's ot quiet07:28
desrtdbw; sweet.07:28
tritiumto07:28
Computer__Guruseriously, though, for a channel with 400 people in it, i think service is pretty fuckin zippy - especially considering nobody gets paid to do this07:28
emXComputer__Guru: definitely.07:28
La_PaRCadesrt, I know that now. not making that mistake again.07:28
desrtthat kid has some serious issues07:28
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chaps0063if I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is my httpd.conf07:29
fortysixand2no kidding, it's not like we HAVE to be here and help