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amortal_mistakelindsey: np, you have to be root or use sudo to use it, btw12:01
amortal_mistakelindsey: so a normal user account would type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"12:01
robotgee3any package for preventing/detecting dropped wireless connections?12:01
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aceidiadoes anyone know how to enable the -jit in wine?12:03
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lindseyamortal: I'm working on it. :)12:04
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aceidiacan anyone help me?12:05
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benplautdarn12:06
benplautbird stuck in the house12:06
aceidiathat sucks\12:06
TokenBadnow why will az not let me save to mounted drive when I can download from www to mounted drive12:06
benplautcathederal celing with windows at the top. te bird keeps trying to go out of those12:07
benplautand they have glass and screens12:07
remyforbes777   hey guys this is not a linux question just a general hardware question12:07
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remyforbes777I have 256 MB in an abit mobo12:08
remyforbes777i add another 256 and it doesnt show up12:08
lindseyamortal it generated them so I am hoping everything will work right12:08
remyforbes777ahh forget it12:08
remyforbes777lol12:08
kbrooks?12:08
aceidiadoe anyone know anything about wine in here?12:08
kbrooksremyforbes777, what?12:08
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HappyFoolaceidia: try #winehq12:08
aceidiathankx12:09
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/635 <---anyone wanna help me with this one?12:09
knowledge_i"m officially stumpped12:09
ozan_smirnoffofficially?12:10
BelutzHappyFool: how do i play a file from samba directory?12:10
HappyFoolBelutz: should work as for other files12:11
knowledge_yeap12:11
remyforbes777kbrooks: i got it working12:11
knowledge_officially12:11
HappyFoolknowledge_: you're missing some critical include files (e.g., 'string.h')12:11
HappyFoolknowledge_: try aptitude install build-essential12:11
ozan_smirnoffknowledge_: install build-essential package. than come back12:11
remyforbes777my RAM wasnt showing up so i just switched banks , put the new ram in the first bank and put the existing Ram in a different bank and it showed up12:11
BelutzHappyFool: but i cannot browse the samba directory from mplayer ?12:11
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ashaakhi12:11
ashaaki have a question12:12
HappyFoolBelutz: hmm12:12
HappyFoolBelutz: try using nautilus to get there first, then right-click -> open with mplayer ?12:12
knowledge_that's done12:12
HappyFoolknowledge_: those include files are part of libc6-dev -- maybe it got lost when before12:12
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HappyFoolknowledge_: err, when you had your libc issue, that is12:13
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HappyFooli need sleep12:13
TokenBadanyone know how to get AZ to let me download to my mounted drive12:13
BelutzHappyFool: the mplayer is started, but don't play it (right click -> open with mplayer)12:13
lindseyAmortal: I still need help please.12:13
knowledge_HappyFool, I see, thanks I think it's doign it right now12:13
knowledge_it just went ape shhh....12:13
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HappyFoolBelutz: you can try mount it using mount -t smbfs or -t cifs -- sorry, i really need to go to bed12:14
HappyFoolBelutz: ask someone else for more details, or look on the wiki12:14
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DaZjorzhelloooo :)12:15
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knowledge_things keep scrolling on the screen now....don't have a clue as to what's going on....I just wanna come back and see that I screwed yet another thing up12:15
lindseyOkay I am still working on localization. I generated the locales and now need something called lang ru_RU12:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know if theres an astronomical clock app for ubuntu?12:15
DaZjorzChurch of foamy: for what ?12:16
DaZjorzknowledge: whats the problem12:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdon't you know what an astronomical clock is? it can only be used for one purpose12:16
DaZjorzlindsey: try apt-get install ru_RU12:16
ozan_smirnoffDaZjorz: he needed some dev packages, seems solved12:16
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DaZjorzk12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYand thats astronomy12:16
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^12:17
DaZjorzchurch: erm.. xP tell me12:17
KyralDIE!12:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol12:17
warnkI am trying to fix the display on my laptop, it has i915 graphics, but I can't seem to get X to use the drivers.  Anyone able to help?12:17
lindseyDaz: COuldn't find it.12:17
KyralWow, I have quite a reflex to the name Bill Gates12:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat the hell is bill gates doin in a linux chat room O_o12:17
robotgee3i think Billy boy likes ubuntu!12:18
ozan_smirnoffChurcH_of_FoamY: be nice to little boys :)12:18
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lindseyDaZjorz, I am going to reset for full file name.12:19
no_gatez_fanmaybe he figured it out12:19
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eruinGnobody free software sex goes something like this: mount /dev/mounter /media/bush ; fsck ; unzip thestuff.zip ; fsck ; umount /media/bush ; slocate pants12:19
eruinand I had JUST gotten over "mount"...12:19
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DaZjorzOzan: Talk for yourself.12:22
TokenBadanyone know why azureus will not let me download a file to my mounted drive when I can download from website to mounted drive?12:22
DaZjorzerm12:23
DaZjorzwhat error does it give12:23
BillGates:)12:23
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BillGatesmicrosoft is going open source12:23
DaZjorzBillGates: Please, PLEASE change your name into Anti-BillGates12:23
BillGatesyou heard it now12:23
DaZjorzbecause12:23
DaZjorzLinux is like a tent. No windows, No gates, No bills and a lot of bugs12:23
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lindseyFor everyone concerned it works. Thanks for all your help everybody. :)12:23
BillGateseveryone LOVES bill gates12:23
robotgee2BillGates is a troll!12:24
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BillGateslol12:24
DaZjorzGood Lindsey :)12:24
BillGateswhy ty sir12:24
DaZjorzI want admin powers12:24
DaZjorzthen i can kick him xP12:24
BillGatesi dont even like windows....12:24
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BillGateswow all this hate from a name12:24
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DaZjorzLOL12:25
Bolsahah12:25
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DaZjorzi just wanted to type /me Kicking failed.12:25
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DaZjorz^^12:25
robotgee_lol12:25
DaZjorz;-D haha12:25
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DaZjorzNOOOOO12:25
DaZjorzMICROSOFT12:25
Microsoftt:)12:26
DaZjorzKEEP YOUR BLOODY HANDS OFF LINUX12:26
Microsofttno could get microsoft...12:26
DaZjorz;-D12:26
robotgee_the death star arrives12:26
DaZjorz;-(12:26
BurgundaviaDaZjorz, please keep if on topic and please stop spamming12:26
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Microsofttall your base belongs to me!!12:26
TokenBadoperation not permitted. setlength fails12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i always wanted to kill bill gates so umm.....12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere do you live?12:26
DaZjorzthe death star was already here..... and now he's firing :'(12:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYmuhahahahahaha12:26
DaZjorzsorry, i'll be on topic12:26
DaZjorzsorry Burgundavia12:27
robotgee_is it possible to ban specific nicks :)12:27
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DaZjorzIf you own the server12:27
BurgundaviaDaZjorz, np12:27
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TokenBadDaZjorz, operation not permitted. setlength fails12:27
damcann anyone recommend some good fax software for ubuntu? external modem. tested and worked on knoppix12:27
DaZjorz...I'm gonna host an IRC server ;-D12:27
TokenBadthats the error it gives12:27
DaZjorzDam: Let me search on google...12:27
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zenlunaticare there any free software mp3 players for windows?12:27
DaZjorzDam: It seems there is some "Linux Fax Server"12:27
DaZjorzDam: I think you want a client...12:28
damDaZjorz, i'd rather a personal opinion from a person, not a google12:28
ompauldam, what software did you use on knoppix? it most likely is available for Knoppix?12:28
robotgee_zenlunatic: u mean like winamp?12:28
ompauls/Knoppix/Ubuntu12:28
DaZjorzZenlunatic: Why are you asking this in a Linux channel?12:28
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damdial-cfg or something12:28
DaZjorzDam: I don't know fax programs, but I want to help, so I search google for a good one12:28
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DaZjorzGoogle is almighty12:28
zenlunaticDaZjorz, my windows using friend needs a mp3 program and i cannot recommed a non-free software12:29
DaZjorzAh12:29
DaZjorzright12:29
DaZjorzlol12:29
damDaZjorz, OK,12:29
DaZjorz;-D12:29
zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you know what free sfotware is12:29
DaZjorzI like to use 'open-source' and not 'free'12:29
damzenlunatic, cooplayer is free for winX12:29
DaZjorzfree sounds like "i say its no cost, but after all you gotta pay though"12:29
robotgee_zenlunatic: free as in beer!12:29
DaZjorz;-D12:29
FatPenguinconvert the poor bastard zenlunatic12:30
DaZjorz;-D12:30
DaZjorzlool12:30
ompauldam,  efax-gtk might be up your street12:30
robotgee_lol12:30
DaZjorzZenlunatic: I think you should take some MP3 converter thats shareware12:30
DaZjorzand that can also play MP3's12:30
DaZjorzl-D12:30
DaZjorz;-D12:30
ompaulzenlunatic, you really should try Ubuntu it can do so much for you that you will not want to turn that thing you use now12:31
zenlunaticfree as in freedom!12:31
DaZjorzNvm. I'm really thinking to delete Windows from my own computer.12:31
zenlunaticompaul, im on ubuntu12:31
DaZjorzThough then I can't play games anymore.12:31
DaZjorzNot much, i mean12:31
zenlunaticomaru, i was refering to my friend12:31
FatPenguinyou know beer isnt free....12:31
DaZjorzlike San Andreas12:31
robotgee_does everyone know of the Free as in Speech Beer?12:31
DaZjorzthats the good thing on Windows12:31
DaZjorzgames like GTA: San Andreas12:31
lsuactiafnerDaZjorz : i havent had windows in years, tho using windows to convert ppt to jpg is usefull..12:31
zenlunaticomaru, i haven't used windows on computers i own for years12:31
aruDaZjorz: get an xbox for that12:31
DaZjorzi'd rather use Windows then pay 200 euros :\12:32
lsuactiafnerbut other than that there is no use in windows12:32
robotgee_http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=7012:32
highvoltagei'd rather pay 10 000 euros than to use windows12:32
lsuactiafner200 for what?12:32
zenlunaticlsuactiafner, the issue shouldn't be about use. it should be about freedom!12:32
highvoltage(not that i have 10 000 euros)12:32
DaZjorzHighvoltage12:32
DaZjorzif you pay me 500 euros12:32
DaZjorzthen I will buy an X-box and remove Windows from my computer forever12:33
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lsuactiafnerif you pay me 100 euro i would use windows for a week12:33
DaZjorzLOL12:33
ompaulFatPenguin, I have a recipe for beer http://www.valdyas.org/andal/peoples_and_places/food/kvass.html12:33
mikeehello ppl12:33
lsuactiafnerheh i need money12:33
DaZjorzhello Mikee12:33
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ompaulFatPenguin, and the souce for Linux :)12:33
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mikeecan anyone help a tottaly noob ?12:33
poningrumikee: whats up?12:33
DaZjorzwe're currently doing a discussion about how much money everyone wants to (not) use Windows for a while12:33
mikeei rather that then return to windowz :((12:33
zenlunaticmikee, im sorry no one can help you12:33
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DaZjorzOfcourse, Mikee12:33
DaZjorzWhats the problem ?12:34
DaZjorzZenlunatic: Talk for yourself xP12:34
zenlunaticrobotgee_, ibook here12:34
mikeeok i'm trying to inst valknut12:34
NuffSeddoes anyone know of a GUI-version of deborphan? or is there a way to make synaptic uninstall dependencies that are not in use anymore?12:34
DaZjorzValknut...12:34
mikeebig pbs with .rpm's12:34
mikee:((12:34
zenlunaticDaZjorz, its a stupid question12:34
zenlunaticDaZjorz, any human being is capable of helping there neighbor12:34
DaZjorzZenlunatic: There are no stupid questions12:34
robotgee_zenlunatic: powerbook12:34
DaZjorzonly questions that are easy to answer12:34
DaZjorzxP12:34
DaZjorzMikee: Whats the problem with the RPM ?12:35
FatPenguinompaul,  I see. never understood that "free as beer" thing.12:35
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mikeeerror: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)12:35
mikeeerror: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm12:35
DaZjorzDoes it give an error?12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_, cool do you know the code to get the mouse button emulation to work?12:35
DaZjorzErmm Mikee12:35
DaZjorzdoes this work12:35
jcarrhey... what is the default root password for a new ubuntu install? It never prompted me to enter one during install :(12:35
DaZjorzapt-get install valknut12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_, not echo /proc code but xmodmap12:35
jcarrI need to log in as root12:35
mikeei'll try now12:35
TokenBadDaZjorz, I found out why azureus wouldn't let me save to mounted drive12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_,  im trying to get the same effect on BSD12:35
arujcarr: ubuntu doesn't use root, use sudo12:35
DaZjorzAnd ?12:35
ompaulFatPenguin, you might say it is freedom to do the business12:35
zenlunaticrobotgee_,  but i don't know the code12:36
poningruDaZjorz: its not in the universe12:36
DaZjorzMikee are you logged in as Root ?12:36
jcarraru, I need to do alot of stuff though12:36
poningruor multiverse12:36
robotgee_zenlunatic: mouse emulation??12:36
TokenBadI had to turn on incremental file creation12:36
aruthen go to applications > System tools > root terminal12:36
TokenBadin azureus12:36
zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you have external mouse on your powerbook?12:36
mikee apt-get install valknut12:36
ompauljcarr, sudo -s will give you a root prompt if you really need one12:36
jcarrhow can DaZjorz ask mikee if he is logged in as root if Ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root?12:36
DaZjorzAru: Ubuntu uses su to become root, but there is a root for sure12:36
TokenBadfor it to save to a fat32 drive12:36
mikeeyes i'm root allright12:36
robotgee_zenlunatic: yeah...and also keyboard12:36
DaZjorzTokenBad: Ah right :)12:36
mikeeE: Couldn't find package valknut12:37
DaZjorzjcarr: There is always a command like su :/12:37
TokenBadthanks for help though12:37
DaZjorzMikee: RPM error about the package ?12:37
zenlunaticrobotgee_, oh well i guess you don't know then. i dond't use external mouse i use f11 and f12 for second and third mouse clicks, respectively12:37
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tfort gahhhhhhhh, once again, WoW freezes on install] 12:37
robotgee_zenlunatic: i do that too12:37
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DaZjorzMikee: I'll try to see if I have the same problem. Please wait a sec. I'll start the Live CD in VMWare.12:37
jcarrDaZjorz, I tried to su to root12:37
DaZjorzjcarr And ?12:37
jcarrit prompts me for a password12:37
DaZjorzOfcourse it does12:37
jcarrwhich is always rejected12:38
DaZjorzermm12:38
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zenlunaticrobotgee_, do you know the code to enable it? i know its automatic in hoary but i need to know the code12:38
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jcarrthe install never let me enter a root pasword!12:38
ompaulmikee, you should try the debian one it is nearest ubuntu if you are really going to do that12:38
robotgee_zenlunatic: one sec...12:38
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ompauljcarr, the password is the password for jcarr12:38
DaZjorzLOL12:38
zenlunaticrobotgee_, sure msg me when you get back so we can stop flooding the channel12:38
DaZjorzjcarr, only 'expert' installations have that question12:38
jcarromaru, I tried that... didn't work... but does if I use sudo :(12:38
jcarrah well12:38
DaZjorzits really a bad idea12:38
robotgee_zenlunatic: okie :)12:38
DaZjorzthey should always include the question in the normal installation12:39
mikeewell..if i'm 2 stupid for that please give me an alternativ for a dc sharing application12:39
mikeepls12:39
linuksojcarr: if you want to change the root password you must run "sudo passwd root"12:39
DaZjorzMikee: What RPM did you download actually ?12:39
knowledge_heyy guys....how long should 'sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source' take to complete?12:40
chaps0063hi, I'm trying to setup partitions.  I currently have NTFS, when I create /boot, swaparea, /, I cannot create /home, the rest of the space is tagged as unusable?12:40
mikeethere were 2 on the srver12:40
mikeesome libs12:40
mikeeand the valknut rpm12:40
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DaZjorzerm Mikee12:40
DaZjorzwhen you go to the Stable download...12:40
DaZjorzit asks you for the OS12:40
DaZjorzwhat did you fill in12:40
mikeedebian12:40
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mikeeright?12:40
DaZjorzYup.12:40
DaZjorzerm12:40
DaZjorzlet me test ...12:40
knowledge_anyone know?12:40
DaZjorzbooting the live cd...12:40
Virtuall[v16] ...i don't get it. what do i have to do to start translating? Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Danko Alexeyev12:40
linuksomikee: try "sudo aptitude install dcgui"12:41
ompaulmikee why did not you not do the debian one, a close relative of ubuntu, not an rpm which is completely alien to the structure of Ubuntu (excuse the pun those of you who got it)12:41
poningruknowledge_: a freaking long time12:41
DaZjorzErm;...12:41
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poningrudepending on your computer speed12:41
knowledge_seems like it12:41
knowledge_wow...1.6 P412:41
DaZjorzompaul He chose debian12:41
poningruheh thats not so fast12:41
knowledge_am I recompiling the kernel?12:41
ompaulDaZjorz, eariler he said rpm12:41
mikeeit's going smooth so far12:41
poningrunot really12:41
linuksomikee: dcgui is available through apt12:41
mikeeok all done12:41
knowledge_oh....I wanted to do it for i68612:41
DaZjorzOK...12:42
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poningruknowledge_: you can just use a precompiled package12:42
poningrufrom synaptic12:42
poningrufor P412:42
DaZjorz Well I don't know much programs for Linux actually. Only the programs I use myself, thats mainly server programs.12:42
poningruwhat program are you looking for>12:42
poningru?12:42
DaZjorzThough I am gonna install Linux on my own computer.12:42
knowledge_yeah, but I need that patch in there for my alps glidepoint12:42
DaZjorzbut though12:42
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DaZjorzthe only thing that keeps me from installing Linux on my own pc12:42
tfortim getting so frustrated with ubuntu now with cedega that i might just frag this install and go back to gentoo12:43
DaZjorzis games like GTA: San Andreas....12:43
DaZjorzWhats the problem tfort12:43
aruget an xbox12:43
raven3x7dcgui-qt=valknut12:43
DaZjorzAru: I already said, too expensive12:43
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DaZjorzTfort12:43
tfortDaZjorz, WoW install keeps freezing during install in Cedega 4.412:43
knowledge_I like Ubuntu....then again my only other distro i used was mandrake12:43
ompaulif you want to know what stuff is installed you might consider 'apt-cache show ubuntu-base' and 'apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop' to see what is in a base system12:43
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DaZjorzErrm12:43
aruthats right, you did talk about that once before...12:43
knowledge_which (Imo) blows12:43
tfortworked fine on gentoo when isinstalled it, but now i can never get it to install12:44
DaZjorzcheck your logs in /var/log/12:44
DaZjorzdoes it give any errors ?12:44
DaZjorzAlso, are things like graphical engines on ?12:44
DaZjorzetc.12:44
DaZjorz3D support ?12:44
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DaZjorzI repeat, i didnt do much with home-based linux...12:44
DaZjorzonly server-based. But i'm gonna change that12:44
tfortDaZjorz, which log errors would i be looking for12:44
mikeeNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.12:45
mikee :((((12:45
DaZjorzAnything12:45
DaZjorzany error12:45
tforti dont see any cedega and i dont see any point2play12:45
arucould you please use sentences?12:45
mikeeis occured durring sudo aptitude install dcgui12:45
tfortthere's syslog and base-config but that's about it12:45
DaZjorzyou can paste errors in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:45
DaZjorzSorry, Aru.12:45
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AlbanianLordcedega12:45
AlbanianLord?12:46
AlbanianLordlol12:46
DaZjorzBut every time after typing something, something else pops into my mind to type.12:46
tfortAlbanianLord, yes, what?12:46
AlbanianLordi always used wine12:46
DaZjorztfort,.. Do other 3D games work ?12:46
AlbanianLordand it worked12:46
tfortDaZjorz12:46
tforthaven't tried12:46
tfortjust installed 2 days ago12:46
tfortAlbanianLord, for WoW?12:46
DaZjorzYou should, actually...12:46
DaZjorzthen you know if the problem is there12:46
DaZjorzAlbianLord12:46
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DaZjorzWINE doesn't support 3d / directx things, does it12:47
AlbanianLordno12:47
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DaZjorzi surely can't run GTA: San Andreas in a window on linux :'(12:47
tfortno, it doesn't that's why you use cedega12:47
tfortfor d3d emu12:47
AlbanianLordbut i can make it work12:47
DaZjorzCedega.12:47
DaZjorzGoogle is almighty ^^12:47
AlbanianLorddid you install cedega off a debian package or from source12:47
AlbanianLord?12:47
robotgee_zenlunatic: i've pm'd u!12:47
DaZjorzCedega...oo this might just be the reason for me to install Linux..12:48
DaZjorzany bad experiences with Cedega here ?12:48
imaekFor some reason, neither K3b nor GnomeBaker will sense that there is a blank CD in my CD drive, but I can read data disks, play DVDs, and listen to music through it12:48
tfortDaZjorz, mine, hehe12:48
DaZjorzWtf12:49
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DaZjorzcedega costs money, ?12:49
knowledge_Ubuntu can be used for web server right?12:49
graabeinwhat you got, baby i want it12:49
tfort$5 a month12:49
DaZjorzjeez12:49
DaZjorzonly for a porter..12:49
poningruDaZjorz: you do know there is Wine?12:49
DaZjorzNvm. I'll stick with Windows then.12:49
DaZjorzI know, Poningru12:49
tfortponingru, it doesn't do d3d12:49
DaZjorzbut it doesn't support DirectX nor any 3D things12:49
poningruDaZjorz: why not do a dual boot?12:49
poningruthats what I do12:50
DaZjorzI can,.. but then, after a while, i can't stop myself from booting Windows every time :\12:50
poningrudual boot for games12:50
tfortponingru, because that's completely contrary tot he whole point of me wanting a linux system12:50
poningruwhats the point?12:50
poningrufunctionality right?12:50
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ompaulknowledge_, yes12:50
DaZjorznot only that12:50
DaZjorzthe point is12:50
poningruyou use the products that are best suited to that function12:50
DaZjorzthat Linux is a great OS12:50
DaZjorzits faster etc.12:50
tforti like an automated system that i dont have to reboot, it can stay up all the time, and at the same time, runs very effeciently and smoothly12:51
DaZjorznot only that12:51
tfortwindows does not12:51
DaZjorzExactly12:51
DaZjorzTfort (Y)12:51
tfortand with linux, you get much better performance on WoW and other d3d games12:51
airmikeywhats the command to open my file browser with the location bar12:51
DaZjorzerm Airmikey12:51
DaZjorzwhat file browser ?12:51
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gobbolinohi12:52
DaZjorzNormally its just the first argument12:52
DaZjorzHi gobbolino12:52
gobbolinoi ahve a small problem12:52
gobbolinohave12:52
poningruso the reason you dont wanna dual boot is?12:52
DaZjorzOK12:52
DaZjorzI would like to dual boot12:52
gobbolinoi have a notebook widescreen12:52
DaZjorzand i'm gonna set it up once i get back from vacation12:53
DaZjorzYes ?12:53
ompaulairmikey, Places -> Home Folder12:53
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DaZjorz^^12:53
DaZjorzI'm really thinking of dual booting Windows / Linux12:53
DaZjorzbut i'm afraid i'm gonna start Windows every time ...12:53
DaZjorzbecause i can't fast-switch between windows and linux12:54
DaZjorzit takes a restart12:54
DaZjorzwhich is another 2 minutes12:54
poningruDaZjorz: you can hibernate12:54
poningruboth12:54
poningruso more like 20 secs12:54
gobbolinowith 1280x800 resolution (see on Windows)... ubuntu seem to have the same resolution but it distorce image...12:54
airmikeyyeah for my home folder12:54
DaZjorzPoningru: I use USB devices12:54
ompaulponingru, I don't and have not since late 1994 when I choose to start with the command line :)12:54
DaZjorzas keyboard, mouse12:54
DaZjorzif I hibernate12:55
tfortgobbolino, it should be 1280x102412:55
DaZjorzthen they won't be activated in Windows when I boot12:55
DaZjorzGobbolino12:55
DaZjorz1280x800 sucks12:55
DaZjorzi'm using 1280x1024 because its well12:55
gobbolinoand in how i can use that?12:56
DaZjorzhandy12:56
DaZjorzChange your resolution to 1280x102412:56
tfortDaZjorz, it's also the right frigin' resolution12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou all have to check this out is awsome12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.deathclock.com/12:56
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DaZjorzk12:56
DaZjorzLOL12:56
knowledge_you could hibernate linux?....on a laptop?12:57
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jcarrwhat's the package that just installs the latest kde, all of it?12:57
gobbolinobut ubuntu resolution preference give me only 1024x768!!!!!12:57
robotgee_ChurcH_of_FoamY: read the comments!!12:57
linuksojcarr: kubuntu-desktop12:57
benplautknowledge_: what laptop? in linux, it's called suspend-to-disk, BTW12:57
ChurcH_of_FoamY?12:57
knowledge_Dell Inspiron 820012:57
jcarrgobbolino, live with it... I get a 640x480 screen that is 50% the size of the monitor, centered12:57
jcarrDell Inspiron 110012:57
jcarrcuz I'm a poor bastard12:57
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robotgee_ChurcH_of_FoamY: or the letters on deatch clock.12:57
jcarrthe 845patch seems not to work in ubuntu12:57
knowledge_oh, I thought it actually shuts down and saves everything12:58
DaZjorzgobbolino: then I think you should do the highest but most comfortable to see12:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk12:58
robotgee_Linux, cause we shouldn't have to compromise12:58
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DaZjorz!! hibernate mode on windows doesnt work if you use keyboard and/or mouse as USB device12:58
ubotuDaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about12:58
benplautknowledge_: it saves the RAM image to the disk, and then restores it when it booted back up12:58
tfortYour Personal Day of Death is...  Wednesday, December 11, 201912:58
tfortdamn12:58
DaZjorzbecause when you resume, they won't be activated12:58
DaZjorzLOL12:58
to|mwhy is ma CUI of XMMS so grey, big sonts, and ugly gtk1 style, where could I set it right?12:58
gobbolinoyes i want increase resolution but how can i make it?12:58
knowledge_benplaut, so it actually shuts down? meaning doesn't run the battery down?12:59
benplautknowledge_: yeah12:59
to|m+GUI12:59
knowledge_no kidding12:59
DaZjorztfort: *what do you do if you hear that you have only 14 years to live anymore...*12:59
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tfortDaZjorz, time to rob some banks12:59
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knowledge_well I'm guessing that "hibernate the computer" in the logout menu is the same thing12:59
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DaZjorzTfort: I agree ^^12:59
tfortcan someone check if transgaming.org is up right now?12:59
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poningrucan someone go to www.freeculture.org and see if its down?12:59
jcarranyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?12:59
benplautknowledge_: you can also suspend-to-ram (standbye), which supplies only enough power to keep the RAM image from wiping clean12:59
benplautyup, same thing12:59
DaZjorztfort: No, i don't actually, cuz my day of death is..12:59
gobbolinoDaz where i can change resolution?01:00
knowledge_battery on my laptop is no good01:00
Corvusdoes anyone has problems with its dvd unit ? input/output errors01:00
jcarranyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?01:00
knowledge_I wish I could use that01:00
jasoncohentfort, i can ping transgaming.org but the site isn't coming up01:00
robotgee_knowledge_: same here...it's more like a desktop now01:00
tfortjasoncohen, yea thanks, same for me, this is weird, i just want to download the damn thing01:00
jcarrNormally, I need to run 845patch to correct the faulty bios, but it aint working in Ubuntu01:00
jcarrthis is a first01:00
knowledge_jcarr, do you ever have a problem with closing your screen and seeing the desktop all messed up when you open it01:00
DaZjorztfirt: it is...01:00
jcarrit worked on FC, Debian, and Slackware?01:01
linuksoponingru: freeculture.org is up and running...01:01
jcarrknowledge_, YES!! :(01:01
knowledge_robotgee_, I'm in the club with you01:01
Corvusor are the benq 1640 dvd unit's known to have problems on ubuntu/linux ?01:01
knowledge_jcarr, it cuts it in like half right?01:01
DaZjorzFriday, June 19, 206501:01
DaZjorz;-D01:01
poningruok thanks dude01:01
DaZjorzi have another 60 years to live01:01
jcarrknowledge_, I need to use 845patch to get the screen full screen, and it aint working right in ubuntu (runs, but doesnt fix it)01:01
jcarrknowledge_, yeah01:01
DaZjorzLOL01:01
robotgee_knowledge_: it sucks, and a new battery is > 100$01:01
jcarrthe top half will be all scrambled01:01
jcarr:(01:01
knowledge_robotgee_, you can try ebay01:01
jcarrI wish linux would just work01:01
jcarrno bullshit to deal with, just work :)01:02
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knowledge_or crack the battery open and if you're lucky enough you can find the cells and replace them01:02
tfortdamnit why is transgaming down01:02
knowledge_jcarr, there's no fix for it?01:02
robotgee_jcarr: ubuntu is the closest to "It just works" linux01:02
DaZjorztfort: nobody bought their produc01:02
DaZjorz+t01:02
knowledge_I'd agree with robotgee_01:02
DaZjorztfort: stupid guys should've made it open-source and asked for donations01:02
DaZjorzthey would've earned more01:02
knowledge_I really really like ubuntu01:02
jcarrknowledge_, for the close laptop scramble, or the 50% of the screen problem?01:02
DaZjorzme too01:02
robotgee_knowledge_: what's with cracking open the battery??01:03
jcarrthe 50% of the screen resolution is the suckiest :901:03
knowledge_I mean I'm not a Linux guru...and I suck at command line...and between mandrake and ubuntu01:03
knowledge_I like ubuntu01:03
tfortknowledge_, eh, i definately liked portage more than debian's apt-get01:03
robotgee_knowledge_: yeah.01:03
jcarrwell, I'm a long time debian user01:03
DaZjorzGuys01:03
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knowledge_jcarr, the 50%01:03
concept10Any thunderbird users here that use RSS feeds?01:03
jcarrI just install Ubuntu because I didnt have time to reinstall debian01:03
DaZjorzdo you think people will hear me downstairs when I put a cd in my loud CD-player ?01:04
robotgee_tfort: except for the fact that it would take 5 days to cimpile something!01:04
jcarrknowledge_, 845patch fixes it... but it doesnt seem to work for me in Ubuntu so far :/01:04
gobbolinosorry someone can help me to increse resolution of my screen?01:04
robotgee_DaZjorz: go ahead, blast away!01:04
jcarrI may need to change the driver X is using01:04
DaZjorzrobotgee_ i dont want anyone to hear me01:04
knowledge_robotgee_, if the battery isn't too old (Still produced) you can split the casing apart and you'll find nothing more than what looks like AA cells in series, you can buy them from on line and replace them01:04
DaZjorzxP01:04
DaZjorzi mean, the cd player in my own PC01:04
tfortrobotgee_, it wasn't that bad01:04
chaps0063does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?01:04
DaZjorzi would like to set up dual partitioning now01:04
robotgee_knowledge_: neat..will take a look into that01:04
knowledge_MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new battery01:05
DaZjorzi'd like to set up dual partitioning now but i think my cd-player is too loud01:05
jcarrman.. the season premiere of Stargate SG1 kinda sucked01:05
DaZjorzit produces too much sound01:05
robotgee_tfort: i tried gentoo on a sparc, it took abt 2 days to compile X :)01:05
knowledge_BUT that's only if you're inclined to doing that....soldering, working with ribbon cables01:05
tfortjcarr, welcome to the series01:05
DaZjorz;-D01:05
DaZjorzDamn i'm bored01:05
tfortrobotgee_, that's insane it only takes me 45 min01:05
jcarrtfort, eh?01:05
DaZjorzsomeone tell me what to do with my linux box...01:05
chaps0063DaZjorz: use it.01:05
knowledge_mann, I don't get this whole patching thing....the only way I'm doing it right now is because there's a how to01:05
tfortjcarr, after the first 1 maybe 2 seasons, that show got really lame01:05
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knowledge_I have NO clue as to what the commands do01:06
DaZjorzgoddammit01:06
jcarrtfort, eh!? I thought season 6 and 7 were the best01:06
DaZjorzmy stupid hosting provider01:06
airmikeywhats the command to open home browser01:06
jcarrI think it's dying now though01:06
DaZjorzi asked them to change my NS01:06
tfort jcarr it needs to be replaced with more episodes of Firefly01:06
chaps0063DaZjorz: who does your hosting?01:06
linuksojcarr: did you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell01:06
DaZjorzbut now they ask me Why? You can change your DNS settings on our own MCS -.-01:06
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robotgee_tfort: i think i went a bit overboard on the optmization flags, and it was only a 200 mhz box01:06
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tfortrobotgee_, to be honest, you can just use the gen-kernel and you won't see THAT big a difference01:07
DaZjorzDammit, my hosting provider refuses to change the domains NS servers to my own server :\01:07
jcarrtfort, I think they should just end the series, especially with O'Neill gone from the show01:07
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jcarrI mean, they could have went out solid at the end of season 801:07
tfortjcarr, yea01:07
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jcarrThe jaffa are free with Teal'c as the leader of the new Jaffa Nation, the go'loud have been defeated, the replicators are defeated, etc01:08
mitch528can anyone help me set up a ftp server for ubuntu?01:08
robotgee_tfort:  i don't want to get into gentoo anymore :)01:08
zaudragondoes Ubuntu support Airport cards?01:08
robotgee_mitch528: ur back!01:08
mitch528yea01:08
tfortrobotgee_ you can do alot more with it / have a lot more access to breaking tech on it, than on any other system01:08
asimismoI've got an Athlon and tried to switch to k7. Should it require any more than a Synaptic install? I'm getting a kernel panic after reboot...01:08
jcarrnow we get to enjoy Stargate/Farscape :|01:08
airmikeywhen i type nautilus i get the browser without the location bar...how do i get the location bar to come up01:08
robotgee_zaudragon: hey, are u the same guy on the adium team?01:08
zaudragonrobotgee_: I'm not on the team but I am pretty into Adium :D01:09
robotgee_zaudragon: nope, no airport express support...older orinoco cards only01:09
zaudragonrobotgee_: express?01:09
zaudragonrobotgee_: do you mean extreme?01:09
robotgee_zaudragon: yeah, sorry01:09
zaudragonwell, I get the pint then; no Airport :D01:09
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robotgee_tfort: true, but after i quit using the mac, ubuntu just works!01:10
airmikeywell01:10
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knowledge_wow...that command is STILL doing01:10
knowledge_that's amazing01:11
DaZjorz?01:11
aruis there anything for playing wmv files?01:11
DaZjorzmpg12301:11
chaps0063does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?01:11
DaZjorzi thought it worked01:11
DaZjorzno, doesnt suport wmvfile01:11
DaZjorz                 !!! I recommend everyone to FIRST LOOK UP YOUR QUESTIONS AT GOOGLE!!!!!01:12
ubotuDaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:12
zaudragonwell thanks robotgee_01:12
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tfortanyone know where the tmp directory is for firefox?01:12
=== DaZjorz RECOMMENDS EVERYONE TO FIRST SEARCH GOOGLE!!!
=== DaZjorz RECOMMENDS EVERYONE TO FIRST SEARCH GOOGLE!!!
DaZjorzi can't keep saying that enough01:12
knowledge_I do....google sucks01:13
knowledge_well it doesn't suck01:13
knowledge_but it's very generic01:13
knowledge_for me anyhow01:13
DaZjorzknowledge = ??01:13
poningrutfort: do you mean the cache?01:13
tfort.. i suppose01:13
poningruits in your profile folder01:13
tforti believe its something */tmp01:13
knowledge_I seem to create problems for myself that no one has heard of before01:13
Servo888When ever I try to ./configure something I get a "lib/cpp" fails sanity check error... What's up with that?01:13
tfortbut i dont know the whole directory extension01:13
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ompaul!wmv01:13
ubotuompaul: I haven't a clue01:13
poningru~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/Cache01:13
poningruthats where all of it is stored01:13
DaZjorzServo888 try apt-get install gcc01:14
DaZjorzit'll give u some packages that are recommended01:14
poningrualso you can check by about:cache in your url and pressing enter01:14
DaZjorzyou can install them using apt-get too01:14
Servo888DaZjorz, already installed...01:14
ompaulServo888, do this 'apt-get install build-essential'01:15
crazy2kI just installed Ubuntu but I have two problems: First, it doesn't let me change the resolution, it just gives me 640x480 as the only option available (and my card supports up to 1024x768). Second, I can't manage to connect to the Internet. The network configuration tool doesn't let me write my user and password.01:15
jcarris there a cd burner provided by default with ubuntu?01:15
DaZjorzdont think so01:15
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jcarrI have kde installing now, with k3b included, but just curious01:15
jcarr:(01:15
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jcarrI need to update my bios it seems01:15
DaZjorznot sure01:15
jcarrthat is what the problem was01:15
DaZjorznever tried01:15
jcarrit doesnt01:15
DaZjorzi love apt-get01:16
crazy2kCan someone give me a hand?01:16
gm78crazy2k, with what?01:16
linuksocrazy2k: whats you video card? for network, try pppoeconf01:16
crazy2kIt's an old 3dfx Voodoo 301:16
ompauljcarr, nautilus does burn, however I am a command line freak - cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/hd* random.iso where *  is the letter of the burning drive01:16
gm78crazy2k, what do u need help with?01:16
knowledge_sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source <--takes how many minutes on a P4-m 1.6?01:17
blackskyHey all, I'm following the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki, trying to install Flash. But its not working01:17
crazy2kgm78, scroll up please.01:17
Corvushas anyone a benq 1640 ?01:18
blackskywhen I do an "apt-get update", the hoary-extras sources are being ignored :(01:18
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DaZjorzblacksky i had that too01:18
ompaulblacksky, what seems to be the issue01:18
DaZjorzcomment out your CD01:18
ltk160801:18
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ltk160801:18
DaZjorzjust comment out the line that says something about your CD01:18
ltk160801:18
gm78crazy2k, doesnt work when u just entered the room01:19
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blackskyDazjorz: it is commented out01:19
DaZjorzwtf ?!01:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: No double lines ?01:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: Where did you save the file01:19
alberto__Any know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?01:19
crazy2kIt asks me for my root password. I haven't set one. The installer didn't ask for one. How can I set it?01:19
ltk160801:19
DaZjorzBlacksky: and what lines are available01:19
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blackskythe file is /etc/apt/sources.list01:20
ompaulblacksky, you did a apt-get update after you added  multiverse to your system?01:20
gm78crazy2k, sudo passwd root  it will ask for a password, enter urs, then enter the new root password01:20
crazy2kThanks.01:20
bet0xAny know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?01:20
gm78crazy2k, no prob.01:20
linuksocrazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf01:20
gm78crazy2k, what r u having problems with in regard to ur display?01:20
linuksocrazy2k: just use you user password!01:20
crazy2kYeah. Hold on.01:20
DaZjorzBlacksky Good, can you paste it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:20
gm78linukso, having a root passwd is a good idea anyways, ive had it where i couldnt log into my user account, it was a good thing i had the root password set01:21
blackskyDaZjorz: ok, 1 minute. Could you do the same?01:21
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linuksocrazy2k: sudo wants *your* password, not roots. The root passwd is disabled in ubuntu by default, but you can as gm78 said set it with sudo passwd root01:21
crazy2kIt's loading the pppoeconf thing.01:21
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robotgee_mitch528: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver01:21
Will_gm78: Surely if you can forget a user password, you can forget a root password?01:22
crazy2kgm78, it doesn't let me change my resolution to anything but 640x480. That is the problem.01:22
gm78Will_, didnt forget my user account, deleted my home directory01:22
linuksocrazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf01:22
Will_gm78: Noted01:22
gm78Will_, lol01:22
crazy2kNow, I should disconnect this computer in order to configure Internet on the other.01:22
blackskyDaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64301:22
crazy2kCan you wait till I'm back?01:22
DaZjorzk01:23
linuksocrazy2k: in pastebin.com01:23
crazy2kThank you.01:23
tfortwhen i try to do a upgrade01:23
tfortThe following packages have been kept back:01:23
tfort  mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support01:23
DaZjorzBlacksky: Remove your double lines01:23
tforti get this, any idea how to upgrade them?01:23
blackskyDaZjorz: eh? What are double lines?01:23
DaZjorzblacksky: Like 2 lines that are the same :/01:24
linuksotfort: sudo aptitude upgrade01:24
tfortlinukso, still nothing01:24
linuksotfort: hmmm, try synaptic01:25
blackskyDaZjorz: I can't see any. There are lines for binaries, and lines for source, but they're not duplicates.01:25
DaZjorzBlacksky: Standby01:25
blackskyor am i being thick!01:25
DaZjorzBlacksky: Remove all double servers. hoary includes hoary-updates, i thought.01:25
tforttransgaming's site is down anyone have the point2play deb files?01:26
chaps0063how do I enable dma on my dvd drive?01:26
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arcanumhi01:27
DaZjorzhi01:27
tfortE: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/mozgnome.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support01:27
arcanumhas anyone solved the gnome hanging problem/01:27
arcanumgoogled it looks like there's no straight answer01:27
robotgee_what problem? :)01:27
arcanumwell01:27
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arcanumafter the install01:27
arcanumit's all dandy01:27
arcanumdo some updates01:27
arcanumand reboot01:27
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arcanumgdm starts - then i login and gnome hangs01:27
arcanumi see mouse and background01:28
arcanum(the brown one)01:28
blackskyDaZjorz: Still getting Ign's. :/ I don't understand whats going on here. What causes a source to be ignored?01:28
crazy2kOk. Internet is working now.01:28
arcanumit takes like 3-4 mins before it actually starts01:28
crazy2kWhat was it that you wanted me to paste?01:28
crazy2kI'm on the Ubuntu computer,01:28
linuksocrazy2k: The "Device" section from /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:29
crazy2kOk.01:29
DaZjorzBlacksky: Do you get an error msg01:29
robotgee_arcanum: nope...don't know anything abt that :(01:29
arcanumgr01:29
arcanumit's just annoying waiting 4 mins for gnome to start01:29
arcanum;|01:29
blackskyDaZjorz: no, just "Ign:" at the start of some of the lines01:29
arcanumand there's no error messages01:29
DaZjorzBlacksky: Try apt-get update and paste all output on the pastebin01:30
robotgee_arcanum: tried openbox? it's a great window manager, and works really fast in gnome01:30
blackskyDaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64401:31
arcanumwell01:31
DaZjorzk01:31
arcanumi decided to try ubuntu+gnome before i was running fedora+xfce01:31
arcanumworked great01:31
crazy2klinukso: http://pastebin.com/314709 Apparently everything's ok.01:31
arcanumbut i guess i'm going to have to go back to fedora01:32
arcanum=\01:32
robotgee_which one?01:32
arcanumwhich sucks becuase ubuntu looks promising01:32
DaZjorzBlacksky: Standby01:32
arcanumminus that gnome bug01:32
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arcanumyou know what i noticed/01:32
arcanumi decided to strace gnome-panel01:32
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64501:32
arcanumit looks like it's trying to connect to localhost port01:32
knowledge_Can anyone explain that?01:32
arcanumto a localhost port01:32
arcanumrather01:32
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arcanummaybe there's a connect() timeout01:33
crazy2kgm78: Could you read what I pasted?01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: I thought the hit means that the file was downloaded correctly etc.01:33
chaps0063my music is really quiet..01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: the IGN. Where does that stand for ?01:33
blackskyIgnored I presume.01:33
chaps0063how do I turn it up, the volume is max in xine..01:33
blackskyIt seems to hit and ignore the same sources - which is weird.01:33
DaZjorzBlacksky: lol ofcourse . My bad. I'll send you my /etc/apt/sources.list.01:33
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blackskyta!01:34
crazy2kWhat should I do now?01:34
knowledge_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/645 <---anyone?01:34
gobbolinohi again01:34
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blackskyknowledge: erm, have you filled your hard disk?01:35
linuksocrazy2k: hmm, what about the display section?01:35
knowledge_I sure would hope not01:35
knowledge_how can I check?01:35
blackskydf or df -h01:35
DaZjorzI commented it to the pastebin.01:35
linuksocrazy2k: arg. Monitor section...01:35
chaps0063can someone help me get the volume to a normal level?01:35
DaZjorzBlacksky: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64601:36
blackskyDaZjorzL Thanks - will try it!01:36
zenlunaticanyone know if links browser can do tabs?01:36
gobbolinosomeone use 855resolution?01:36
arcanumsigh01:36
crazy2klinukso: It's ok apparently. http://pastebin.com/31471001:37
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DaZjorzBlacksky: No problem. Does it work ?01:37
blackskyDaZjorz: you don't have a hoary-extras source there?01:38
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linuksocrazy2k: ah, damn. I'm a bit slow... Getting late where I am. You must modify the Screen section01:38
linuksocrazy2k: Just add the missing modes.01:38
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dapimp53I currently have a dual boot and its using Grub1.5. How do I set wich OS is the defualt01:38
DaZjorzblacksky: Its included with the main things01:38
blackskyDaZjorz:I was wanting to install flash, Reak Player etc01:38
DaZjorzBlacksky I think all these things are included in the normal servers too...?01:39
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blackskyDaZjorz: I was trying to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:39
crazy2klinukso: The problem is there are no missing modes. The 1024x768 option is there. But it's not shown when I want to change the resolution via the preferences.01:39
DaZjorzBlacksky: Try to do a apt-get update01:40
DaZjorzthen apt-get upgrade01:40
DaZjorzand after that, try to download what you wanted01:40
DaZjorzit should work01:40
linuksocrazy2k: hmmm01:41
crazy2klinukso: I think this has happened to me before but I don't remember how I fixed it.01:41
crazy2kIt was one of those goddam files.01:41
linuksocrazy2k: all the simple solutions failed...01:41
DaZjorzBlacksky: And ?01:42
blackskyDaZjorz: nope: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/64701:42
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blackskythat package is supposed to be in multiverse in the hoary-extras source01:42
linuksocrazy2k: last resort: past the entire xorg-log (/var/log/xorg-something...)01:42
TokenBadwhat program for monitoring your bandwidth in ubuntu?01:42
DaZjorzblacksky: isn't "apt-get install flashplugin" working ?01:42
dapimp53Is there somewhere I can edit the Grub config or anything01:43
tfortbah to this.. back to gentoo i go01:43
gm78crazy2k, sorry, left the room01:43
crazy2klinukso: Sorry, I did not understand.01:43
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blackskyDaZjorz: same message - not found01:43
TokenBadanyone?01:44
crazy2kgm78: It's ok. We haven't fixed the problem anyway. Scroll up if you want to.01:44
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dapimp53Also I have a Toshiba Satellite Laptop with a Realteck audio. When I am in Ubuntu I dont have any audio. Any idea how I can make it work so I can hear stuff while I am in Ubuntu01:45
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DaZjorzBlacksky: Erm, Sorry, No idea then. Maybe add the servers now and retry it, and just ignore the IGN lines?01:45
billytwowillybest star wars parody ever: http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html01:45
linuksocrazy2k: if you just paste the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin, then the answer must be somewhere in there...01:45
DaZjorzthey must be ignored for some reason01:45
crazy2klinukso: Oh, ok. Hold on.01:46
blackskyDaZjorz: Ok, thanks for the help. I'm beginning to suspect that that wiki page is wrong/out of date.01:46
DaZjorzBlacksky: No problem.01:46
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blackskyMaybe a better question is: Has anyone got flash working, and if so, how?01:47
crazy2kThat's a lot of text. I don't know if I'm allowed to.01:47
r0ddoes ubuntu go out of their way to make kernel compiling hard01:47
r0dhave never had so much trouble before...01:48
DaZjorzBlacksky: Use /me. People will read your question easier.01:48
DaZjorzlike /me has a problem: (...)01:48
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linuksocrazy2k: use sudo to read it and pipe it to a textfile on you desktop01:48
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blacksky:)01:48
linuksocrazy2k: sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/x.log01:49
dylan_how do i tell firefox that the version is actually 1.0.4 and not 1.0.2 (the ubuntu version)01:49
linuksoarg, thats not really a pipe :)01:49
crazy2klinukso: I was talking about pastebin.com. Don't know if I'm allowed to paste all that text.01:49
linuksoAh, stupid me... Think it must be time to go to sleep soon...01:49
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up01:49
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crazy2klinukso: Done. http://pastebin.com/31471701:50
NuffSeddylan> about:config general.useragent.vendorSub01:50
dylan_thanks, nuffsed01:50
NuffSedchange to 1.0.401:50
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glickcd01:51
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up01:51
crazy2kThere seems to be a lot of errors realting to the resolution.01:51
crazy2krelated*01:52
crazy2khsync out of range01:52
dylan_Why does gtkpod tell me that my iPod's file structure isnt right?  Can i fix this?  thanks for all the help, guys im a total n00b01:52
linuksocrazy2k: did you try changing the refreshrate when switching resolution?01:53
linuksocrazy2k: 1024x768 only support 60 hz01:53
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crazy2klinukso: I have just on option for refresh rate.01:53
crazy2kone*01:53
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crazy2kWhich is 60Hz.01:53
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ilmariis the X breakage mentioned in the topic known to affect dead keys in emacs?01:54
crazy2kAnd just only one for resolution, which is 640x480.01:54
linuksocrazy2k: arg...01:54
neuronlapsehey, how is there a website like packages.gentoo.org that shows all the ubuntu packages?01:54
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crazy2klinukso: Maybe I have to explicitly write my default refresh rate and resolution. However, I don't know how to do it.01:55
crazy2kIt might work though.01:55
ilmarineuronlapse: packages.ubuntu.com01:55
ilmarineuronlapse: who'd'a thunk? ;-)01:55
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sizzamif i create a file in vmware, whats the easiest way to get access to that file in my normal linux environment01:56
neuronlapsethanks :-D01:56
dapimp53where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up. I need to check what is going wrong when I boot the computer01:56
dylan_why doesnt beep show up in synaptic anymore?01:56
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ilmarisizzam: loopback mount the vmware disk image01:56
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sizzamilmari:  thanks, i'll search on how to do that01:56
ilmarirobotgee3: network-manager01:56
ilmarisizzam: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point/01:57
TokenBadis shockwave on linux?01:57
ilmarirobotgee3: but that's only in breezy01:57
ilmariTokenBad: nope, just flash01:57
neuronlapsehow can I find which ubuntu I'm using?01:57
crazy2klinukso: Any idea on how to do that?01:57
TokenBadthat sucks01:57
neuronlapselike hoary breezy etc?01:57
sizzamilmari:  thanks!01:57
ilmarineuronlapse: cat /etc/issue01:58
ray_mo shockwave01:58
ray_no01:58
ray_it sucks01:58
crazy2klinukso: Oh, found a similar problem in the forum.01:58
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neuronlapsethanks :)01:58
ray_can anyone find a way to use shockwave?01:58
dapimp53Wow how come no one is answering me where the error logs are located for ubuntu01:58
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synddapimp53, cause no one paying attention knows?01:59
synddapimp53, just be patient.01:59
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Thomas!repositories01:59
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:59
Kyraltry /var01:59
linuksocrazy2k: great! Hope it helps you. Sorry I couldn't, but now I got to go to sleep... Happy hunting for a solution.01:59
crazy2kThanks anyway.01:59
blackskydapimp53: what logs are you looking for? Try /var/log? /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages are a good start01:59
crazy2k:)01:59
Thomasdude01:59
ilmaridapimp53: what error logs?01:59
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Thomaswhat happen with repositories today i can't update02:00
ThomasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:00
dapimp53I need to check up when the computer is booting02:00
dapimp53it gives some errors02:00
Thomasany idea02:00
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Kyraldapimp53, dmesg02:00
chaps0063I just upgraded to 2.6.10 kernel and sound does not work in xine, any thoughts?02:00
blackskydapimp53: syslog or messages is what you are looking for. Also try the command dmesg02:00
chaps0063never mind, wrong button in xine..02:01
Thomashello02:01
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Thomas!ping me02:02
ubotuThomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:02
dylan_why doesnt beep show up in synaptic?02:02
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kbrooksdylan_, reload?02:03
dylan_ooh thanks lol02:03
Thomas?02:03
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Thomashelp me pls some body02:03
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blackskyThomas: whats up?02:04
dapimp53On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect02:04
ThomasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:04
Thomasthere02:04
Thomasi just run apt-get update02:04
blackskyThomas: and it worked in the past?02:05
ray_Thomas: i had the same problem02:05
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blackskyThomas: Does this file exist: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages02:06
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tfortanyone have the point2play and/or cedega .deb files lying around?02:06
rob^tfort, try02:06
rob^!cedega02:06
ubotuit has been said that cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4502:06
tforttransgaming.org has been down for 2 days now and i'm seriously in a bind for some WoW'in02:06
ray_what is cedega?02:06
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rob^ray_, a way to play windows games on Linux02:07
tfortd3d emu02:07
erik_how do i make firefox support java?02:07
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rob^!tell xry abou java02:07
dapimp53On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect02:07
xry!tell xry about java02:07
rob^hmm02:07
xrybut it doesnt work02:08
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jomdomhey guys, any reason ubuntu wouldn't be saving my refresh rate when i restart?02:08
jomdomit always defaults back to 7502:08
xrybut i just need the plugin for firefox02:08
rob^xry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:08
xrywhats the name?02:08
jomdomi'd use 75, but the viewport is off the right side of the screen02:09
Thomasray_ doe u fix ur apt-get update ?02:09
xryi repeat, i have java, just need the plugin for firefox02:09
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nightswimsymlink it02:09
blackskyThomas: was that file there?02:09
rob^ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java includes the Firefox plugin02:09
ubotu...but java is already something else...02:09
nightswimjomdom: because you havent told it o02:09
rob^wtf?02:09
rob^!java02:09
jomdomnightswim: how do you mean?02:10
ray_Thomas: i changed my apt sources to the canadian ones'02:10
rob^I think ubotus on crack again02:10
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jomdomi am using the system -> preferences -> screen resolution02:10
jomdomtool02:10
paxubotu: forget java02:10
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ray_gotta have java02:10
syndjava sucks02:11
tfortanyone know the answer to this, but the AGP aperture should be half your video ram right?02:11
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rob^ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.02:11
syndlimewire and azureus are prime examples02:11
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:11
ubotupax: i forgot java02:11
ubotuokay, rob^02:11
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synd!synd02:11
ubotusomebody said synd was a badass02:11
syndsmart bot :)02:11
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tfort!synd02:12
syndwtf02:12
syndwtf02:12
synd!synd02:12
uboturumour has it, synd is a badass02:12
tfortwow... even smarter bot, it has flood protection :-)02:12
Thomasblacksky this file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages02:12
concept10thank god02:12
paxrob^: seems like the bot already had a java entry and needed to forget that one before taking yours :)02:12
tfort!forty02:12
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, tfort02:12
Thomasray_ can u give ur sources.list ?02:12
tfort:-)02:12
Thomaswhere it is canadian sources ?02:12
rob^pax mine was the same, it just wasnt spitting out the one it had02:12
blackskyThomas: yes. Is it there?02:13
ray_Thomas: sure02:13
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Thomasdcc me pls02:13
paxrob^: maybe someone should work on his AI script02:13
Thomasand i will replace with my one02:13
ugohi has anyone been able to get arla or openafs working on an amd6402:14
ugo?02:14
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ugoive torn my hair out trying out different compile settings.....aargh!!!!02:15
ray_ur gonna have to except it thomas02:15
ray_Thomas: U GOTTA ACCEPT IT02:15
cafuego!find MkTemp.pl02:15
ray_there ya go02:15
Thomasyes02:15
Thomaswait i'll check it02:16
ray_Thomas: basicly its changing the us to ca02:16
Thomasoh ic02:16
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pl' returned no results.02:16
Thomassoo archive.ubuntu.com change to ca./archive.ubuntu.com02:17
Thomas*ca.archive.ubuntu.com02:17
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ugohey....anybody see my question...id really like some help or a pointer at least?02:17
cafuego!find MkTemp.pm02:18
cafuegod'oh02:18
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ray_Thomas: just paste mine in there02:18
lordgothhello02:18
lordgothhow do you get on the dev team?02:18
w01fweird!02:18
w01fI was going to ask the saem question02:18
lordgothlol02:18
lordgothlies02:19
w01fI just read somewhere that you have to post some poics to get approved02:19
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pm' returned no results.02:19
kbrookspoics?02:19
lordgothpics i think02:19
kbrooksno02:19
poningrupics?02:19
w01fyes pics of kiddy porn i guess02:19
kbrooksyou dont02:19
lordgothyeah i heard the same thing02:19
w01fthats what i heard02:19
kbrookslordgoth, w01f: WRONG02:19
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lordgothi just want to do get on the dev team because of the 9 year old chick hookups I heard they have02:19
w01fkbrooks?02:20
lordgothkbrooks more like RIGHT02:20
sizzamilmari:  can you give me that command to mount a vmware image again?02:20
ray_lordgoth: what?02:20
kbrookslordgoth, stop the jokes02:20
lordgothsizzam rm -rf /02:20
sizzamhaha02:20
w01fsizzam: vmware wont get you pussy02:20
lordgoth<302:20
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poningruyes thats it you email it to these people:  J. Edgar Hoover Building02:20
poningru935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW02:20
poningruWashington, D.C. 20535-000102:20
poningrumail the kiddie porn to there02:20
lordgothk02:20
lordgoththat's not what i heard though02:21
kbrookslordgoth, dont lie then02:21
w01fkbrooks: are you a genuine Ubuntu hacker?02:21
lordgothw01f no02:21
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lordgothhe's a genuine ubuntu pedophile02:21
w01flol02:21
w01fi thought so02:21
sizzamugh, trolls02:21
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kbrookscut it02:22
w01fid like to be a pedophile for once02:22
ugokid jokes are not funny people02:22
lordgothsizzam where?02:22
kbrookscafuego,02:22
cafuegokids aren't funny either, so that's a good match.02:22
w01fugo: sorry if we hurt ur feelings02:22
cafuegokbrooks: where?02:22
paxlast thing you should bring here is some bad joke like that02:22
ugono need for the sorry....take that kind of chat out of here02:22
w01fh0h0h002:22
ugonot on this thread....02:22
w01ffag ALERT!02:23
w01flol@thread02:23
kbrooksi am a contributor to  ubuntu, lordgoth and w01f02:23
w01fso you DO get 9yo pussy02:23
w01fso you DO get 9yo pussy02:23
w01flucky bastard you02:23
kbrooksdont you dare say bad things to the community02:23
ugothen you should be ashamed of yourself02:23
w01fshould I?02:24
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w01fwhats wrong with kiddy pr0n?02:24
kbrooks... ... ... ...02:24
cafuegokbrooks: ?02:24
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kbrookscafuego, um, those trolls are evil02:24
r0domg w01f your a numb....02:24
lordgoth  I love ubuntu pedophiles like kbrooks!02:24
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lordgoth          \-._^   ^|     |    ^_.-/02:24
cafuegokbrooks: No, they're just stupid and bored. Put them on /ignore.02:24
lordgoth          `\  `-._  \___/ ^_.-' /'02:24
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lordgoth                .'^   ^    `.      .'   `__\02:24
lordgoth              .'    ^     ^  `.__.'^ .\ \02:24
r0dwheres an admin when ya need one...02:24
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lordgoth                 |  ^     ^ |02:25
r0dflooding is bad for your health02:25
lordgoth                 \^         /02:25
lordgoth                  `.    ^ .'02:25
lordgoth             jgs   : ^    ;02:25
lordgoth           .-~~~~~~   |  ^ ~~~~~~-.02:25
lordgoth          /   ^     ^ |    ^       \02:25
aukwtf!!02:25
lordgoth          \^     ^   / \  ^     ^  /02:25
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zenlunaticquick everyone mess up his flood02:25
r0dadmin where are u!02:25
cafuegoIf you don't feed the trolls, they die within minutes.02:25
ugohonestly these ppl ought to be banned02:25
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auk/ignore02:25
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r0dthey have nothing better to do02:25
r0dsad ppl02:25
sizzamauk:  thx02:25
lordgothLOL02:26
sizzamls02:26
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w01fr0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids02:26
w01fr0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids02:26
lordgothw01f lol yes he uses ubuntu02:26
r0dim sure you are a kid02:26
auklordgoth: don't laugh; if you keep it up no one on this channel will know when you say anyhting02:26
r0dactually i use gentoo02:26
r0dbut thx for the assumption02:26
lordgothr0d just as bad02:26
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w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
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w01fgentoo gets more pussy?02:26
mpettheubuntu is the best distro it has sux name02:26
lordgothubuntu pedophiles and gentoo homos02:26
r0dand i care of what u think because....02:27
lordgothboth are lol02:27
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zenlunaticnalioth, attack of the trolls :)02:27
w01flol@GNU/pedophiux02:27
ugolordgoth....whats wrong with you?02:27
aukrofl02:27
r0dsad kids02:27
w01flol@GNU/pedophilux02:27
r0ddont u have homework to do02:27
naliothzenlunatic:  trolls?02:27
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zenlunaticnalioth, scroll up02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
sizzami hate it when the mandriva kids come to this room02:27
w01fr0d? joo got pics?02:27
cafuegoPeople, stop responding to them. Sheesh. it's not hard, is it?02:27
lordgothr0d a.s.l?02:27
naliothah, yes grafitti02:27
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naliothhas an @op been informed?02:27
cafuegonalioth: No, scroll back further.02:27
w01fsizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT02:27
w01fsizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT02:28
aukrofl02:28
cafuegonalioth: ubotu needs an 'inform ops' command.02:28
aukheh02:28
zenlunaticcafuego, they're kinda funny02:28
w01foh my god! i hear IRC sirens02:28
aukwho's in charge of ubotu dev?02:28
ugobetter....twits ignored02:28
cafuegozenlunatic: But not particualrly topical.02:28
lordgoth  r0d touched my jenkies =~(02:28
lordgoth/02:28
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lordgoth  |(_.'  |    /    .-\-.  \  |02:28
lordgoth  \     0|    |   ( O| O) | o|02:28
aruwhat the hell02:28
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Melechorionhio02:28
aukwell--ignore time02:28
lordgoth   \ (_) | o         -` .-`  |02:28
naliothno, they just need to catch up on the "we need to add these users to the access list" list02:28
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lordgoth.' `-.` '.|='=.='=.='=.='=|._/_ `-'.'02:29
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lordgoth   .'   ).| '=' '='\/ '=' |02:29
lordgoth   `._.`  '---------------'02:29
ThomasWTF !!!!!!!!!02:29
lordgoth           //___\   //___\02:29
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lordgoth    LGB      ||_.-.   ||_.-.02:29
lordgoth            (_.--__) (_.--__)02:29
aukyeah, jsut ignore him02:29
lordgothlol02:29
no_gatez_fangeeze02:29
glicklol02:29
naliothThomas:  and /ignore <username> works wonderfully02:29
w01fnalioth? what is that you are talking about? j00 seem like a proficent Ubuntu man02:29
glicknice art!02:29
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auknot liek i'm seeing anything of his anymore02:29
zenlunaticyou guys got to admit he is a good ascii artist02:29
r0dyea just did that02:29
loldamn gnu hippies02:29
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^thehatsrule^lol he just copy and paste...02:29
rob^lol this is a help channel02:29
kbrookslol: troll02:30
ugoall he wans is attention02:30
pedofileTHEN HELP US!02:30
aukjust ignore him!02:30
pedofileTHEN HELP US!02:30
lolrob^ i know02:30
naliothrob^: so we are helping psychopaths vent thru art?02:30
rob^lol go elsewhere02:30
lolrob^ #ubuntu helps you get kinder pr0n02:30
lolrob^ but only if your on the ubuntu dev team =~(02:30
lolhaters =\02:30
kbrooks.....02:30
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ugocan someone pls point me where i can get some arla support02:30
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sizzambob2:  a ban is in order02:31
sizzamright on02:31
r0dty!02:31
naliothaw, bob2  it was just gettin fun! lol02:31
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cafuegobob2: thanks02:31
lolugo http://support.on.nimp.org/02:31
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bob2please do point that sort of thing out...(ie use my nick so the hilight triggers)02:31
sizzami need help mounting my vmware vmdk XP file02:31
cafuegobob2: Can you msg be a list of op nicks? I'll an an !ops command to the bot.02:31
bob2ok02:32
BobaFettguys ... i'm having problems installing the flash player plugin for Opera ... I get a 'bad interpreter: permission denied' when running the installer ... any ideas? :(02:32
rob^good02:32
robotgeekanybody know a good tool for managing wireless connections?02:32
Thomasbob2 can u set the topic from where to must get source.list for apt-02:32
chaps0063how do I get audio to work in firefox with flash?02:32
Thomasit change from us02:32
naliothBobaFett: pull the libflash thingy out of mozilla plugins and cp it into the opera plugins folder02:32
r0drobotgeek, like what? just seeing all the AP's02:33
bob2Thomas: hm?02:33
ugohey does anyone have experience with afs on ubuntu?02:33
kbrooksbob2, spammer detected: lol02:33
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cafuegosheesh, I should disable ssh for a while.02:33
robotgeekr0d: i can see my AP's, and all that...the connection keeps dropping02:33
BobaFettnalioth: supposedly, I completely removed firefox (it didnt work properly in my fresh ubuntu install) so I replaced it with an Opera .deb I got off the web...02:33
poningrunalioth: please dont be gay02:33
Thomas!sources02:33
ubotuI heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:33
robotgeekr0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop02:34
r0dbob2,  having hella time compling kernel. keep getting "cant mount vfs" i have all filesystems buildt in kernel02:34
naliothponingru: what?02:34
r0dwhat card are u using?02:34
kbrooksbob2, spammer02:34
r0dor chipset robotgeek02:34
naliothBobaFett:  do you still have your ~/.mozilla folders for firefox?02:34
kbrooksthere is a spammer, bob202:34
bob2r0d: then you forgot your ide controller02:34
poningruoops sorry nalioth02:34
robotgeekr0d: i am using a Belkin Card, with rt2500 on a ppc (no ndiswrapper)02:34
bob2r0d: the stock answer is "don't do that", tho02:35
poningrusomeone fingered me02:35
poningruI thought it was you02:35
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poningru/Finger02:35
r0dbob2 i i need to patch my kernel to. thats why im compling plus ntfs write02:35
naliothponingru: so put a good finger response in your client02:35
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BobaFettnalioth: yes, they're still lying around my home folder, but the plugins folder's completely empty...02:35
bob2r0d: so use the default ubuntu config02:35
Thomas!proxy02:35
ubotuThomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:35
lolWhy is bob2 the same as all other ubuntu users?? He loves little boys...02:35
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bob2r0d: and don't forget to make the initrd02:35
lol  \            /  \            /   \ '.\    /.' / .-\                >/-.02:35
paxleave insiders politics outta this help channel. if you have problems with dev team or other, how's this kinda behavior gonna help your case?02:35
lol  /'._  --  _.'\  /'._  --  _.'\   /'. `'--'` .'\/   '._-.__--__.-_.'02:35
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kbrooksbob2: lol spammed a GNAA site02:35
bob2lol: idiot02:35
poningruhmm good artwork though02:36
r0dyea bob2  that initrd is giving me hell to. is their a wiki on that to learn more?02:36
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ugoi agree02:36
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bob2r0d: no need.  use the right .config, build with 'make-kpkg --initrd'02:36
KeizSup guys02:36
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KeizAnyone here managed to install NetworkManager?02:36
ilmarisizzam: provided that it's just a plain filesystem image: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point02:36
ugosup keiz02:36
ugoknow anything about afs?02:36
robotgeekr0d: i thought that it was dropping cause the card was too hot02:36
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cafuegoright02:37
naliothBobaFett: are you still here?02:37
cafuego!ops lol is a troll02:37
ubotucafuego: okay02:37
JDahlupo, I know AFS as a user...02:37
bob2i_love_you_bob2: er, your ip is the same, sorry02:37
r0dbob2,  ok in a nutshell; I'll compile the kernel w/ the ntfs write option and patched driver. then run that make-kpkg?02:37
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naliothboy howdy! it's fun night in #ubuntu02:37
cafuegoyou broken02:37
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bob2r0d: no, make-kpkg compiles it02:37
r0doooooo02:37
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r0dkool thx bob2 . was hoping u'd get on..02:37
bob2r0d: bear in mind the normal ntfs-write driver is guaranteed to corrupt the disk, tho.02:38
bob2s/disk/filesystem/02:38
chaps0063how do I get (in gnome) a panel to show what my current cpu speed is?02:38
ugoafs..afs...afs....my life depends on the shit application02:38
r0dbummer02:38
bob2well, I'm glad my insomnia benefited someone ;p02:38
robotgee1r0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop (did u tell anything?)02:38
robotgee1Keiz: it's on breezy, have to wait for dhcpbd to get ported to hoary02:38
JDahlugo, do you happen to have specific AFS questions?02:38
r0drobotgee1, no02:38
ugoyes....02:38
r0drobotgee1, do you know the chipset that uses02:38
BobaFettnalioth: yes ... I was trying to get something under 'interpreter' from Synaptic to see if this thing installs :(02:38
bob2networkmanager for hoary is more complicated than that02:38
robotgee1r0d: rt250002:38
BobaFettnalioth: but my mozilla plugins folder is empty...02:38
ugoim trying to compile arla or openafs on amd6402:38
bob2it's unlikely it will ever be usefully backported02:38
ugoboth fail02:39
cafuego!ops02:39
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, and, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!02:39
cafuegoThere we go02:39
robotgee1bob2: oh okie...02:39
naliothBobaFett: you should have more than one mozilla-related folder02:39
bob2cafuego: s/and// :)02:39
cafuegoubotu: unlock ops02:39
ubotucafuego: unlocking factoid ops02:39
cafuegoubotu: ops =~ s/and, //02:39
ubotucafuego: OK02:39
cafuego!lock ops02:39
ubotulocking factoid ops, cafuego02:39
ugowhat information do you need JDhal02:39
BobaFettnalioth: I never installed flash plugin for mozilla in the first place, so it shouldn't be there ... maybe if I get it from Synaptic, and then cp it to the opera plugins folder ... ?02:39
ugo?02:39
benplautstill trying to figure out what you guys are trying to do...?02:39
r0drobotgee1, dont know anything about that chipset. do a iwlist eth1 ap02:40
JDahlugo, CVS openafs compiles quite easily on x86; I dont know 64 bit complicates it02:40
darkwind!backports02:40
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!02:40
r0drobotgee1, replace eth1 w/ your card's configuration02:40
bob2cafuego: thanks dude02:40
cafuegobob2: np.02:40
ugook ill take my chances with that version02:40
robotgee1r0d: the chipset works fine, it;s just that suddenly, the led's go off and the connection drops02:40
naliothBobaFett: you'll probably end up installing moz again02:40
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JDahlugo, there's also unofficial Ubuntu packages for arla (x86) somewhere... maybe get those and rebuild?02:40
r0drobotgee1, reason i asked chipset because their is a patch you need for certain drivers02:40
ugoalready tried that02:40
robotgee1r0d: i've have nothing but problems today (i even had to use some other nick ... like now)02:41
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i_love_bob2i love you02:41
r0drobotgee1, did you trie #wireless channel?02:41
i_love_bob2why did you do that to me02:41
i_love_bob2=~(02:41
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BobaFettnalioth: I downloaded flashplayer from macromedia.com , extracted it ... but when I run ./flashplayer-installer I get the 'permission denied' error, even as root...02:41
JDahlugo, arla seems like a mess to build from source... I would try to get openafs working - you just need the client, right?02:41
robotgee1r0d: on freenode?02:41
r0dyea02:41
ugoyes02:41
robotgee1cool, i dint know that...off i go!02:41
r0dthose guys no their stuff02:41
kbrooksnalioth, btw i added " Do not use the backports for day to day usage!"02:42
darkwindhey this say conection refused when conecting http://backports.ubuntuforums.org02:42
ugoi have the module sources of openafs from ubuntu02:42
robotgee1okay..be back02:42
naliothBobaFett:  have you tried "gplflash.sourceforge.net"?02:42
kbrooksi_love_bob2, no you do not love him02:42
naliothkbrooks:  bravo!02:42
i_love_bob2kbrooks i do too02:42
bob2i_love_bob2: abuse of tor will result in tor being banned02:42
i_love_bob2i want to have gay nigger sex with him02:42
BobaFettnalioth: nopes ... what's that?02:42
i_love_bob2i'm only a top though02:42
i_love_bob2-\02:42
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naliothBobaFett: go check it out02:42
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ugodo you know if the module sources for openafs from ubuntu fail are problematic on x8602:42
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ugo?02:42
naliothBobaFett: it might work for you02:42
KeizDid Thom give up on NetworkManager02:43
i_love_bob2lol02:43
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BobaFettnalioth: will do ... thanks a bunch! ({)02:43
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JDahlugo, I build openafs maybe 6-7 months ago... I think I had to patch a few things manually02:43
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ugook02:43
ugolets go have a look at cvs then02:43
chaps0063has anyone gotten the tablet on a tablet pc working?02:45
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zenlunaticchaps0063, google it02:45
calamarihi02:45
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chaps0063zenlunatic: I have, but I haven't found my particular tablet...and all things I found online haven't worked.02:46
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JDahlugo, as I remember, you to follow the README instructions down to the last detail, and there's something about incorrect redefines in afs headers files, but compiling it was doable02:46
mitch528how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)02:46
JDahls/you to/you have to/02:46
KeizDang02:46
KeizNetworkManager is no workie on Ubuntu02:46
calamariI have my floppy at /a in the fstab.. so I do "mount /a", then "cp files /a", then "umount /a".. but on the umount it says the device is busy.  I tried sync, then umount again.. still buys.  The only way to make it unbusy again seems to be a reboot.  Is this a linux bug?02:46
KeizWhen I try to compile it I get lib errors but the libs are up to date.02:47
bob2Keiz: it works in breezy02:47
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bob2Keiz: it won't work on hoary02:47
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darkwindguy's where to get source.list and backport ??02:47
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Keizbob2, Gah02:47
KeizBreezy the new one?02:47
kbrooksdarkwind,02:47
The_Voxcalamari: you need to run "lsof /a" and see what's actually keeping it busy02:47
mitch528how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)02:47
kbrooks!backport02:47
bob2darkwind: the default sources.list is fine02:47
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, kbrooks02:47
kbrooks!sources.list02:47
ubotuWish i knew, kbrooks02:47
kbrooks!source.list02:47
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:48
kbrooks?02:48
kbrooks:|02:48
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know whether gnome will soon/ever support "menubar in panel" mode, like in os x and kde?02:48
kbrooks!backports02:48
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!02:48
bob2Keiz: breezy is the development version, yes.  NM needs a newer dbus binding than is in hoary02:48
ugook JDahl02:48
calamariaha.. famd    3256 calamari   37r   DIR    2,0 2048  183 /media/floppy0/.Trash-calamari02:48
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: #gnome02:48
Keizbob2, Dang.02:48
calamariThe_Vox: thanks02:48
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: have you tried superkaramba? (i know it's not gnome)02:48
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Keizbob2, How can I upgrade my current one to Breezy?02:48
ugoits checking out at the moment....hope you'll be here in case i need to ask any more questions02:48
ugothanks02:48
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bob2Keiz: don't, just wait for it in october02:48
The_Voxcalamari: once you find out what's keeping it busy, you undo it :)02:48
BROKEN_LADDERnever heard of it nalioth02:49
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BROKEN_LADDERheh..i alwsay thought your nick was nanolith.02:49
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BROKEN_LADDERnever actually read it.02:49
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: superkaramba is to KDE what gdesklets are to gnome02:49
BROKEN_LADDERoh.02:49
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calamariThe_Vox: I guess the trash can is keeping it buys, because there was a trash directory and it must have loaded when I mounted it02:49
zenlunaticnalioth, does gdesklets stand for gay?02:49
JDahlugo, I will be around, but I dont have the AFS builds handy, so not sure how helpful I'll be02:49
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth how did you know i'm using kde?02:49
zwnjhi there.  what's the situation of hoary-backport and hoary-extras?  what's your opinion on turning them on?02:49
calamarimaybe I can delete the trash directory02:49
kbrookszenlunatic, no02:49
darkwindbob2 darkwind: the default sources.list is fine <== us.archive.ubuntu.com still alive ??02:50
bob2darkwind: no, then change that02:50
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naliothzenlunatic: i have no clue, no, yes, maybe <swish>02:50
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: KDE apps work under gnome and vice versa02:50
desrtzwnj; they seem fairly good quality these days02:50
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth i know this.02:50
darkwinddoh02:50
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naliothBROKEN_LADDER: i've been dispatching cab drivers for 12 hours already today (on-the-job-training)02:51
darkwindchange too ?02:51
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: i'm doin good to type in english here02:51
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darkwindwhat mirror bob ?02:51
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BROKEN_LADDERnalioth lol.02:51
JDahlugo, AFS is such a great technology... a pity it's so cumbersome to build and configure02:52
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funkyHatis it possible to get gaim to blink the taskbar under gnome? (like it does in KDE)02:52
zwnjdesrt: and it's firefox update and deprecating mozilla-firefox?02:52
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D1it will be in gnome 2.1202:52
zenlunaticbreezy will be gnome 2.10 still correct?02:52
D1not as far as I know.02:53
light_punch2anyone know  if grub can do something like "lilo -R distro2"?02:53
zenlunaticfunkyHat, that feature would be annoying02:53
zenlunaticfunkyHat, i just have an audio bell to alert me of new msgs02:53
funkyHatbut is it possible?02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, im sure its technically possible02:54
zenlunaticfunkyHat, just hasn't been done yet02:54
funkyHatheh, ok02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, probably not a priority for developers02:54
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zenlunaticfunkyHat, you could implement it yourself02:55
funkyHati guess not02:55
ugoyeah we use it all over our campus02:55
bob2funkyHat: you could file a wishlist bug if you feel it's important02:55
ugoi learnt how it works internally last semester02:55
bob2funkyHat: bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:55
ugovery very well thought out...02:55
funkyHatthanks :)02:55
benplautfunkyHat: look on Ubuntu Forums, someone figured out how to do it02:55
benplauti have it, and it works great02:56
kbrooksbenplaut, url?02:56
benplautlooking02:56
benplauthere you go:02:57
benplauthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3977602:57
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mdkei can't get my breezy packages. getting connection refused from the archives? anyone know what might be causing this?02:57
funkyHatbrilliant :D, thanks02:57
naliothmdke: its happening across the board, not just you02:57
funkyHatmdke, i've had a few problems with hoary during the day02:58
mdkehmm02:58
mdkei see thanks nalioth, funkyHat02:58
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Amaranthhmm, !lock02:59
Amaranthubotu: help lock02:59
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phillipcI just unmoutned my ipod, but it hasn't been ejected afaik. The screen on the ipod still says do not disconnect. I unmounted it by right clicking the icon on the desktop and selecting umount. How can I now eject it? It doesn't exist in media03:00
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Amaranthcafuego: does this mean i have more control over the bot now?03:01
robotgee1!humor03:01
uboturobotgee1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:01
Amaranthphillipc: ouch03:01
robotgee1Amaranth: not exactly the best reaction on a help forum. lol!03:02
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Amaranthhaha, someone was telling me off for telling them something was illegal while having a link to PyMusique in my sig03:03
Viddygotta hate that middle mouse buttont03:03
Viddyhn03:03
Viddy03:03
Amaranth(I wrote it)03:03
robotgee1Amaranth: pymusique??03:04
Amaranthyeah03:04
chaps0063has anyone gotten WPA-PSK working, with using default drivers (no ndiswrapper_03:04
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robotgee1i thought that was dvd jon. wait...03:05
funkyHatbenplaut, thanks :D it looks great too03:05
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darkwinddoes kiosk for kde work fine on gnome ??03:05
robotgee1Amaranth: so, ur dvd jon?03:05
Amaranthno03:06
robotgee1Amaranth: so, u wrote it with him or he's just linked to you??03:06
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AmaranthHe did registration, the initial code breaking, and the iTunes 4.7 code breaking.03:07
AmaranthI wrote the GUI and such.03:07
kbrooks?03:07
AmaranthFiguring out how iTunes talks to the server.03:07
naliothAmaranth: dont be so modest, tell us the truth, LOL03:07
AmaranthThat's what he did.03:07
robotgee1Amaranth: cool, havent used it yet. Still havent bought an song from intunes!03:07
AmaranthWell, if we go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back...03:08
AmaranthMe and Cody wrote PHPTunes which was mostly me. He did the connection to the server, I did the XML parsing and rendering and such.03:08
robotgee1okie...03:09
AmaranthCody ported the core of that to Python, I took over the project, added twisted and a GUI, and then jlj added his stuff.03:09
Amaranthso yeah, it's complicated03:09
robotgee1i think we should add this information to the wikipedia page on pymusique :)03:09
Amaranthgo ahead03:09
syndbbl03:10
Amaranthdo something to make my wikipedia page seem less worthless too :P03:10
naliothcome on Amaranth tell us who you REALLY are.... lol03:10
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robotgee1lol!03:10
Amaranthhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Watkins03:10
Amaranththat guy03:10
robotgee1a wordpress blog!03:11
Amaranthyes...03:11
naliothy'all wanna know something sad...?03:11
robotgee1i use wp too, it's very nice :)03:12
robotgee1go ahead03:12
naliothi joined the army in 198603:12
Amaranthhaha03:12
Amaranthold geezer03:12
glickhehe im gonna ride the bull tonight!03:13
naliothwatch yer mouth, sonny! lolol03:13
glicklol03:13
robotgee1so, where's the sad part?03:13
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Amaranthrobotgee1: I was born in 198603:14
robotgee1okie..me 8203:14
Amaranthubotu: smeg03:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:14
Amaranthsomeone try to change that03:14
Amarantha non-op03:14
Amaranthtype 'ubotu: no, smeg is foo'03:14
chghInstalling ubuntu-desktop freezes at setting up ttf-opensymbol. It says Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file, and stops... any ideas?03:14
Kyralubotu: no, smeg is foo03:15
ubotuKyral: okay03:15
naliothsmeg is already something else03:15
naliothAmaranth: is that what you wanted to see?03:15
Amaranthchgh: This is happening on the hoary install cd?03:15
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Amaranth!smeg03:15
ubotuhmm... smeg is foo03:15
darkwind!backports03:15
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!03:15
Amaranthdoh, it didn't lock03:15
KyralI feel very powerful right now03:15
chghyeah... for powerpc... I'm installing on a powermac g303:15
Amaranthubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:15
ubotuokay, Amaranth03:15
Amaranth!lock smeg03:15
ubotulocking factoid smeg, Amaranth03:15
Kyralshall I try again?03:16
Amaranthsure03:16
Kyralubotu: no, smeg is foo03:16
ubotuokay, Kyral03:16
awb4422is anyone getting really really slow speeds from us.archive.ubuntu.com servers?03:16
Amaranthgrr03:16
Amaranthcafuego: !!!03:16
Amaranth!smeg03:16
ubotusmeg is, like, foo03:16
Kyral!smeg03:16
Amaranthubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:16
ubotuokay, Amaranth03:16
Amaranthok, stop now03:16
KyralYep03:16
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ugoawb4422: same thing here03:16
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jagocan any one tell me a good gui to use for my firewall03:17
ugotry firestarter03:17
anto9usjago: firestarter03:17
jagothank you03:17
ugoapt-get install firestarter...its pretty basic03:17
glickhas anyone know what "riding the bull" is?03:18
glicklol03:18
glyphI've got a fancy "internet" keyboard with lots of extra keys03:18
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glyphI'd like to make them do things03:19
glyphbut only some of them are visible to X (using xev)03:19
glyphall of them show up fine on the console (using showkeys)03:19
naliothjago: try this: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13003:19
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Amaranthall i know about X keyboard mapping is the developers say it sucks03:19
glyphwhat configuration do I need to diddle to make X recognize them as valid scancodes, even if there are no associated keysyms?03:19
glyphAmaranth: I know enough to know that :)03:20
glyphAmaranth: I don't think this is even mapping, though.  I think that I have to say something other than 'pc104' in my xorg.conf, but I have no idea what my options are.03:20
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jagothank again03:21
chghalso, Amaranth... it didn't stop with an apt error, it just hasn't processed any more03:21
Amarantheh?03:22
robotgee1Amaranth: i've done my bit to make you a little more famous :)03:22
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chghnevermind I guess03:23
chghI'll bbl...03:23
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Amaranthrobotgee1: err03:23
Amaranthrobotgee1: show me?03:23
virgule!bug report03:23
ubotuvirgule: I give up, what is it?03:23
virgule!bugreport03:24
robotgee1your wikipedia page :)03:24
ubotuWish i knew, virgule03:24
naliothrobotgee1: you didnt spend $500,000 for a half-page in the New York Times, did you?03:24
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d-manhello03:24
d-mani cannot get wine to work03:24
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d-mancan someone point out the command after i get the packages from synaptic03:24
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d-manhello03:25
d-mananyone here know how to get wine working in ubuntu03:25
robotgee1i was gonna add all the nice info u gave me, but first i need to figure out the command to scroll up in irssi :)03:25
Amaranthd-man: get winesetuptk03:26
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d-mani did03:26
Amaranthrun it03:26
naliothrobotgee1:  ctrl-p for up and ctrl-n for down03:26
d-manand i did wine winesetuptk03:26
Amaranthno03:26
d-manand i got an error03:26
Amaranthwinesetuptk03:26
d-manjust that03:26
AmaranthYeah.03:26
d-manit said bad command03:26
Amaranth...03:26
AmaranthOk, run 'wine'.03:26
d-mani did wine -winesetuptk and it started03:27
d-manbut it came with an error03:27
AmaranthRun 'wine' and click the 'Configure wine' button on the little dialog that comes up.03:27
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robotgee1i have the logs, will add some more in a bit :)03:27
d-manhmm03:27
cafuegoyay, /me is in the 'host pool.ntp.org' rotation :-)03:27
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d-mani will try03:27
LinuxJonesd-man, maybe this will help >> http://www.winehq.com/site/howto03:28
knowledge_of course I reinstalled everything03:28
d-mani am on windoze right now03:28
d-mani read that03:28
knowledge_it only makes sense03:28
ugogcc4 issue here03:28
anto9usglyph: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys03:28
darkwindguy's how to open *.mdb files ??03:28
ugo warning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list03:28
bob2darkwind: you boot into windows and run Access03:28
d-manwhat is the best password manager for linux?03:28
darkwinddoh03:28
virguleI have a problem with fvwm95 there is no font at all. I can click the buttom (start menu?)and right-click the background but all I get is a beige rectangle with no text. I can highlight items.. what should I do ?03:28
darkwindi don't wanna back to M$03:29
ugohey does anyone know what this kind of gcc problem signifies03:29
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anto9usdarkwind: install mdbtools from universe03:29
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knowledge_Yaar helped me with a command to get my fan control to work...because when I launch the program it says can't find /proc/i8k03:29
darkwindty03:29
knowledge_anyone know?03:29
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OddAbe19Hmmm... i need dual monitor help03:29
OddAbe19who knows about dual monitors on nvidia cards03:29
knowledge_grep | something something03:29
chaps0063I have apache installed, but its not processing php files, any help?03:30
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darkwind!archive03:30
ubotudarkwind: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:30
darkwind!mirror03:30
ubotudarkwind: I don't know, could you explain it?03:30
bob2chaps0063: you mean apache2, right?03:30
bob2darkwind: yo ucan /msg the bot, you know03:30
LinuxJonesdark, doesn't Open Office work with those files ?03:30
anto9usdarkwind: mdbtools-gmdb has a nice gui03:30
bob2OddAbe19: best to just ask your question03:30
darkwindi'm stiill on apt-get update now03:31
LinuxJoneserr, darkwind  ^^03:31
virgule!mol03:31
ubotuhmm... mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help03:31
glyphOddAbe19: I might know something03:31
glyphOddAbe19: what do you want to know03:31
OddAbe19well, I have one monitor on DVI ->VGA (CRT) and another on the VGA part of the card (CRT)03:31
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chaps0063bob2: no.03:31
knowledge_no one knows how to add i8k to /proc?03:32
OddAbe19i need to know how to make it work, right now the DVI monitor works in GDM, and the other only works in CLI mode03:32
bob2chaps0063: apache isn't part of ubuntu's supported section03:32
OddAbe19lol03:32
OddAbe19i only have one in my xorg.conf03:32
chaps0063bob2: ok.03:32
bob2chaps0063: and did you install libapache-mod-php4 and read it's README.Debian?03:32
OddAbe19i'd like it side by side03:32
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glyphOddAbe19: Are you using the proprieitary Nvidia driver?03:32
ugosomeone was asking about mdb files on linux03:32
ugostill need help?03:32
OddAbe19yeah, 766703:33
glyphOddAbe19: okay, it's easy then03:33
glyphOddAbe19: read up on the TwinView option03:33
OddAbe19and twinview is too confusing03:33
OddAbe19lol03:33
glyphOddAbe19: TwinView is super easy03:33
OddAbe19here, PM me03:33
OddAbe19so i can talk to you03:33
OddAbe19and not hold up the channel03:33
glyphOddAbe19: here, I'll /msg you the appropriate contents of my XF86Config03:33
glypherm I mean xorg.conf03:33
ugoso...gcc4 issue here03:33
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ugois there a developer ubuntu channel?03:34
Amaranthugo: You mean code that sucks issue.03:34
ugosure Armanath....03:34
Amaranthugo: gcc4 fails to compile bad programs, gcc3 didn't :)03:34
AmaranthWhat's the problem?03:34
chaps0063bob2: ok, so I removed everything, what do I need to apt-get install?03:34
benplautWHY, oh WHY can't ubuntu have the newest version of wireless-tools03:34
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ugohere....im trying to compile openafs on x86_6403:34
benplautmy pet peeve X 0987240503:34
bob2chaps0063: what do you want to install?03:35
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ugohere's the error im getting03:35
chaps0063bob2: apache.03:35
bob2benplaut: because hoary was frozen 6 months ago03:35
sfvtugo: #ubuntu-devel03:35
chaps0063apache, php, mysql03:35
knowledge_anyone know anything about i8kutils?03:35
bob2chaps0063: which version?03:35
chaps0063apache2 preferably.03:35
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ugowarning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list03:35
Amaranththis is not a question for the developers03:35
bob2chaps0063: sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php403:35
Amaranthyeah, that's because gcc4 is stricter03:35
darkwindguy's change this id.archive.ubuntu.com03:35
ugoyeah i know its not for the devels03:35
darkwindit's work :)03:35
Amaranthtell the openafs guys to fix their code03:35
bob2chaps0063: if by "mysql" you mean "mysql server", then mysql-server is the package you want03:35
bob2chaps0063: if you mean the php4 mysql stuff, then php4-mysql03:36
anto9usknowledge_: it's designed for Dell Inspirons, controlls throttling of processer and fan speed03:36
ugoi just need someone with sufficient gcc knowlege to tell me what i could change03:36
Amaranthugo: Probably lots of things.03:36
benplautbob2: i was told that becuase the latest version isn't considered stable (and development, AFAIK, has stopped), it _won't_ be implimented, in breezy either03:36
Amaranthugo: Usually invalid code errors come in swarms.03:36
chaps0063bob2: and after that, will apache start?03:36
ugowell...better to start hacking at it in someway03:36
bob2benplaut: take it over then03:36
bob2chaps0063: of course03:37
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ugook...still03:37
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benplautbob2: for those of us who aren't programmers...03:37
ugoif i could get openafs or arla working my life is complete till monday03:37
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benplauti'm still on the endless search for how to successfully compile03:37
chaps0063bob2: when I http://localhost it says connection refused03:37
JDahlugo, I might try to compile it on an x86 later tonight; I will need to figure it out with the next few months anyway03:37
ray_does anybody know how i can print to a windows shared printer through a router using KDE..... i did it using gnome03:37
benplautsorry... i'm just ranting03:37
knowledge_anto9us, I know, I just installed it, but it's not working right, I need to add /proc/i8k by doing grep | something03:37
knowledge_I forgot what the command is03:37
bob2ray_: try #kubuntu03:38
knowledge_Yaaar had told me it yesterday03:38
ray_bob2: i did03:38
ugook....03:38
JDahlugo, except I run Hoary03:38
bob2benplaut: there's not much anyone can do then...unless someone wants to take it over03:38
ray_bob2: its dead over there03:38
bob2chaps0063: so, what's the first thing you do when a daemon doesn't work?  check the logs!03:38
ugoyeah...ive been thinking of making that switch03:38
bob2chaps0063: /var/log/apache2/error.log03:38
chaps0063bob2: fairly new to linux..03:38
chaps0063bob2: empty.03:38
JDahlbob2, I thought you powercycled your box??03:38
gyaresuJDahl, that's windows.03:39
bob2JDahl: this isn't hp-ux!03:39
ugoubuntu's nice but once the easy install and cute gui wears off..you get to see where there's a lot of work still left....more power to the ppl anyways03:39
naliothJDahl: linux need not ever be rebooted (as long as you are happy with it)03:39
bob2chaps0063: paste the output of "dpkg -l apache2 | tail -n1" here03:39
bob2ugo: for e xample?03:39
anto9usknowledge_: maybe this will help http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/00-README03:40
JDahlugo, isnt your grief more with Linux in general?03:40
chaps0063ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se03:40
ugo*ducks*03:40
ugook....here come the fanboys....03:40
bob2chaps0063: and now 'ps aux | grep -c www-data'03:40
chaps0063103:41
bob2ugo: no, if you have actual gripes, please file bugs so they can be fixed.  just ranting on irc is pointless03:41
HurricanePinkHuh... How do I make the icon for my mounted windows partition not show up on the desktop? :303:41
JDahlugo, not at all... just things like AFS issues are not Canonical's fault03:41
bob2you're more or less trolling03:41
anto9usHurricanePink: unmount it03:41
ugonah no ranting dude....03:41
bob2ugo: then which issues in particular are you concerned about?03:41
gyaresu!bugs03:41
ugoif thats how this was percieved...i apologize03:41
knowledge_anto9us, nope...doesn't have that command in there03:42
chaps0063bob2: ps aux | grep -c www-data - - > 103:42
bob2chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?03:42
ugoi had some problems working connecting to this obscure printer on my campus03:42
chaps0063ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se\03:42
chaps0063err, no \03:42
HurricanePinkIt wasn't on the desktop -before-... :303:42
gyaresusomeone killed ubotu?03:42
bob2ugo: what sort of printer is it?  which protocol doe it use?03:42
ugothey run an lpr queue....and gave us the details to connect to it03:42
robotgee1from what i've seen, things have really really improved on the linux front...i havent been forced to use OS X for abouut a month now03:42
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HurricanePinkI've always wanted to try OS X. Heh.03:43
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ugofor some reason i couldnt get duplex printing to work03:43
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knowledge_insmod -f i8k.o <----how would I use that command?03:43
chaps0063bob2: ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se03:43
ugoits a laserjet-815003:43
wartyI'm looking for the tty command for connecting to a serial device (i.e. a Cisco switch)03:43
seanmc42wussup, bitches?03:43
bob2chaps0063: you really typed the exact command I gave you?03:43
bob2knowledge_: you wouldn't03:43
bob2seanmc42: language please03:43
chaps0063bob2: yes.03:43
seanmc42my bsd03:43
seanmc42bad03:43
ugoit started working all of a sudden....i dont remember doing anything with the config unfort :-03:43
knowledge_bob2, I wouldn't use that?03:44
bob2chaps0063: with no '2'?03:44
bob2knowledge_: because that module exists on disk already.  sudo modprobe i8k.03:44
knowledge_THAT'S IT!03:44
knowledge_you're the sh.......mann03:44
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chaps0063bob2: when it is without 2 - rc apache 1.3.33-4 verstaile, high-performance HTTP server03:45
bob2chaps0063: that's what I asked for, thanks03:45
knowledge_thanks a lot bob203:45
bob2chaps0063: how about 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80'?03:45
chaps0063bob2: sorry, you said with the two..03:45
chaps0063bob2: nothing.03:45
bob2chaps0063: 11:42:08 @         bob2 | chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?03:45
bob2chaps0063: how about 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start', then netstat again?03:46
chaps0063bob2: oh, sorry I pasted from before...my bad.03:46
ugook...i really hope i can get some useful info that could help with afs...03:46
chaps0063bob2: still nothing.03:46
bob2chaps0063: now look in the error log file again03:47
ugobut here's the stuff comming out of the compiler for an fyi....03:47
bob2please don't paste masses of gcc output here03:47
chaps0063still blank.03:47
bob2it's highly unlikely anyone here is an afs hacker03:47
ugoright...03:47
bob2if you have problems compiling it with gcc-4.0, you need to talk to upstream, or perhaps on the ubunut-devel mailing list03:47
ugook...03:47
chaps0063bob2: error.log still blank03:48
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virgule!afs03:49
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, virgule03:49
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bob2chaps0063: what about if you run 'sudo apache2', then netstat?03:50
chaps0063tcp6   0   0 :::80    ::::*    LISTEN 15635/apache203:50
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bob2rock03:51
bob2hrm03:51
chaps0063paper?03:51
chaps0063lol.03:51
bob2is that all it prints?03:51
chaps0063oh you mean for netstat..03:51
chaps0063I did netstat -plnt | grep 8003:51
bob2ah, tcp6 implies tcp03:51
bob2that's cool03:51
bob2but why does the init script not work03:51
bob2chaps0063: sudo pkill apache203:52
chaps0063bob2: done.03:52
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bob2chaps0063: now try 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop ; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start'03:52
chaps0063bob2: it stopped it but didn't start it.03:53
bob2did it print anything?03:53
virgulethere is a fairly annoying bug in fluxbox i am clueless where to go please advice03:53
chaps0063bob2: not after start..03:53
robotgee1virgule: what is it?03:53
virgulethe 'system tray' can only take one icon at all03:54
virguleright now it show kmail icon but if I open liferea it gets overriden by the new icon03:54
Madpilotevening, all03:55
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robotgee1virgule: i've moved to openbox03:55
virgulehow is it?03:56
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robotgee1it's pretty good,i am using it under gnome...03:56
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virguleyou mean i can run a wm in a wm?03:56
Madpilothow do I unpackage a .gz file that's owned by root?03:56
kevin_hopefully that's the last time I get unplugged tonight lol03:56
robotgee1virgule: it replaces metacity03:56
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virgulesudo tar balh balh03:57
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bob2virgule: gnome isn't a window manager...it's window manager, metacity, can be replaced.03:57
robotgee1sudo gunzip <blah>03:57
bob2Madpilot: chown it to the user03:57
virguledoh me03:57
Amaranthvirgule: GNOME is a Desktop Environment, it's a bunch of things including a wm all brought together as one cohesive unit03:57
OddAbe19glyph, it kinda works, the left screen shows login, then when Gnome comes up, the right screens has it, but the left screen is white03:57
chaps0063bob2: start printed nothing03:57
bob2chaps0063: hm, I don't know what could be the problem then, unless you've done something weird03:58
Amaranthyay, i used the right word03:58
chaps0063bob2: like?03:58
Madpilotthnx, all. I don't need to own the directory - it's in /usr/share/... just unpack this one file.03:58
Amaranthstupid vocabulary, i just spit random words out03:58
bob2chaps0063: what have you done?03:58
naringashello03:58
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hondjecat /dev/random03:58
chaps0063bob2: nothing stupid that I know of.03:58
naringasi have this strange problem03:59
bob2Madpilot: then 'zcat /usr/share/blah.gz > ~/blah' is probably what you want03:59
scorpixif i install windows xp in another partition, do i have to reinstall grub or do any configurations for the boot loader?03:59
benplautare these packages safe (do you think?)03:59
naringassome special url in nautilus don't work03:59
benplauthttp://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireless-tools/03:59
OddAbe19glyph, anyhelp?03:59
naliothnaringas: i don't think nautilus is a web browser03:59
chaps0063bob2: I did have apache 1.33 working..03:59
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Servo888Hey what package provides x11 headers? I've got xorg-common and xserver-xorg04:00
naringasi mean special uri like start-here:///04:00
blastmanumais o trouver des fichier .torrent parce qu'il n'y a pas de moteur de recherche comme dans les autres p2p?04:00
KyralKyral says the AMD is still around04:00
sularus76I am new to ubuntu. Where can I get programs for it? Does anyone know how load and where I can get an ICA client for ubuntu.?Thankyou.04:00
naliothblastmanu: si'l vous plait en #ubuntu-fr04:00
naringasor preferences:/// or applications:///, however themes:/// does work04:00
blastmanusorry04:00
seanmc42try the synaptic app04:00
naringasso does smb:///04:00
seanmc42from the cmd line04:00
OddAbe19can anyone help me with dual monitors?04:00
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keikozdo somebody can help me on a kernel-compilation pbl ? i need to compile the generic kernel, but i receive a lot of errors04:01
kevin_OddAbe:.........not me Ubuntu dummy here, I am just proud that I got my wireless working in it lol04:01
bob2keikoz: why do you need to compile a kernel?04:01
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virguledamn the right-click menu is killing me.. is there a way to make it stop blasting itself around like that!!04:02
keikozbob2 cause i have a not recognized controller; only way is the -ac patch04:02
robotgee1kevin_: good04:02
sizzamhow do USB 2.0 external hard drives compare to IDE or SATA drives speedwise?04:02
bob2ouch04:02
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keikozit is a ide/radi controller04:02
keikozraid*04:02
cafuegokeikoz: Are you running it in raid mode?04:02
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keikozno, in ide mode, but anyway it isnt recognized without that patch04:02
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JDahlsizzam, I get around 11Mbytes/sec transfer to my usb harddisk04:03
Computer__Gurui want a very clean, modernized theme for kde..04:03
sizzamJDahl:  what kind of speeds would you say you get to your IDE?04:03
JDahlsizzam, probably 50-60Mbytes/sec04:04
sularus76sata 3GB transfers04:04
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gyaresuquestion: the /usr/local/games folder has the group 'staff' my user isn't a member of 'staff' and can't save games configs/settings. Is that a bug?04:04
sizzamcool, thanks for the info04:04
dylan_is there an itunes alternative for linux?04:04
keikozif somebody want to see the errors (sorry it's a french post) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=834604:04
naringasdylan_: amarok?04:04
cafuegogyaresu: usr/local isn't normally ubuntu stuff, so not an ubuntu bug.04:04
bob2gyaresu: all of /usr/local/ is owned by staff04:04
keikozthat's what happens with the kernel i compiled04:04
kevin_<-- even got the xfce4 running with no problems lol, I may stick with Ubntu if I could get more memory for this laptop04:05
sularus76where can I get a dtffrent desktop backround04:05
gyaresubob2, Can you recommend the prefered Ubuntu place for installing games. (or do i just export paths and such?)04:05
dapimp53I need some help with my wireless connection. I currently have a WPA key on the wireless network. I can get it to work with WEP but the rest of the computers seem to loose internt connection. How do I configure my wireless connection with my WPA key04:05
gyaresucafuego, thanks.04:06
bob2gyaresu: I'd just chgrp that dir to be owned by 'games'04:06
virgulehuhuh-- dpkg -p openbox | grep Version show 3.2-7 but openbox website say latest (stable) is 2.2.3. Dev. version is 2.3. So where is the 3.2-7 from??04:06
naringaswhy could start-here:/// don't work ?04:06
dylan_amarok doesnt let me buy music04:06
Computer__Guruhow does openbox look?04:06
gyaresubob2, thanks.04:06
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cafuegodylan_: they payware sites in say iTunes use proprietary encryption, so Linux can never legally support those.04:07
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kamstrumentalare there any better resources than art.gnome.org for gnome themes?04:07
virgulepretty empty - all I have is this right-click menu..04:07
nickrudI think start-here (spelling?) was depreciated a gnome revision or two ago04:07
naliothkamstrumental: www.deviantart.com, gnome-look.com04:08
keikoznobody can help me then ? :(04:08
naringasnickrud: it's in the docs04:08
naringasi can't acces preferences:/// nor applications:///04:09
naringasneither04:09
virguleI think I prefer fluxbox04:09
ugohi04:09
keikozanother way could be to integrate the -ac patch in the ubuntu kernel, but i dont know how to do it04:09
blmartin777what is a good gnome based frontend for mldonkey?04:10
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nickrudnaringas, if a lot of the docs are for gnome 2.6 (according to yelp)04:10
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kamstrumentalnalioth: thanks alot!04:11
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naliothkamstrumental: np04:11
virgule...and I don't have a ~/.openbox/ directory04:11
naringasthac could be it, sad04:11
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jcarris the default bittorrent download client that comes with ubuntu 5.04 broken?04:11
Madpilotkamstrumental, nalioth: it's http://www.gnome-look.org/ actually, not .com!04:12
jcarrI keep trying to download stuff.... the downloads NEVER begin04:12
naliothjcarr: no, it just suX0rs04:12
jcarron 10 seperate torrent from 10 seperate trackers for ten seperate things04:12
naliothjcarr: are you open to the internet?04:12
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nickrudgetting people to do docs as volunteers is hard, from what I've seen.04:12
naringasthen, how can I edit the applications menu?04:12
naliothnaringas: smeg04:12
jcarrNakkel, no I'm not... I am on irc by using my advanced telepathy ... :(04:13
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Amaranthoh, you said smeg04:13
jcarrnalioth I mean04:13
Amaranthyou know, since i started making xchat beep on 'smeg' i've not gotten anything done04:13
jcarrbah... .what's the name for the python based bittorrent download gui04:14
naliothjcarr: bt clients need to be 'connectable' (not behind a firewall)04:14
JDahlnickrud, IMO developers should be forced to do their own documentation - they write better code that way (at least that goes for myself)04:14
jcarrI used it on debian... never had a problem04:14
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nickrudforce, lol04:14
naliothAmaranth: well, waht do you expect?04:14
jcarrnalioth, that cannot be the case... it worked fine on other distros and I have a static IP04:14
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jcarrit is not public though04:14
jcarrit's an internal ip04:14
Amaranthjcarr: 'bittorrent'04:14
nickrudWhen I got paid, I did docs, when I didn't, I didn't :)04:14
Amaranththe official bittorrent client is written in python04:14
jcarrAmaranth, whatever04:14
naliothjcarr: use the official 4.0 bt from the bt homepage04:15
Amaranthno, i was saying the name04:15
jcarroh04:15
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cafuegosmeg is a kind of stove!04:15
paxwhat's smeg anyway?04:16
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Amaranthprobably04:16
smegthanks04:16
naringasdoes applications:/// still exists in gnome 2.1004:16
naliothjcarr: or azurerus if you have extra cpu cycles to sacrifice to the processor-sucking-demon-Java04:16
Amaranthpax: Simple Menu Editor for GNOME04:16
Amaranthnaringas: no04:16
Amaranthsmeg: wtf04:16
desrtnaringas; no.  replaced with gnome-menus04:16
kamstrumentalMadpilot: thanks ;)04:16
smegnalioth, well, I do alot of java dev04:16
smegand as a result, I have a lot of java based apps04:16
smeganother one won't hurt04:16
paxumm maybe I should ask about smeg when you're not around04:16
Madpilotkamstrumental: np.04:17
naringasI'm usually a kde kind of user04:17
Amaranthpax: Good luck with that. :)04:17
smegit only sucks resources on one JVM invocation... multiple apps only use one JVM invocation04:17
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naliothjcarr: i unfortunately am on a G3/600 iBook, and azureus was killed after trying to load for over 12 hours04:17
kevin_on xfce4, how do I add buttons or something so I can access other programs?04:17
Computer__Gur1wonder if that was lag or just some weird net thing04:17
cafuegonalioth: Which jvm you using?04:18
=== naringas is puzzled by gnome
paxbut seriously, I have gnome-desktop installed but smeg is nowhere to be found, doest it come packed with gnome?04:18
kiwiHi, I'm trying to mount a newly formatted ext3 partition.  But even though I set the options as default, the mounted folder is still read-only...04:18
kiwiIs there anything I seem to do wrong?04:18
bob2pax: nope04:18
bob2it's not even in hoary at all04:19
paxah ok.04:19
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naliothcafuego: the one i had to give my soul to IBM for (their iseries jre)04:19
cafuegonalioth: I've previously been using the IBM jvm on ppc, and had good results with it.04:19
bob2kiwi: once you've mounted it, the root of the mount point is ro?04:19
paxbob2: smeg must suck then ::looks at Amaranth:: :p04:19
naliothAmaranth: tell pax where to get s m e g, please04:19
nickrudout of curiosity, will there be an official ubuntu menu editor in breezy?04:19
Amaranth!smeg04:19
ubotuhmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:19
Amaranthpax: They don't think an editor like smeg is needed, appearently.04:19
Amaranthpax: Plus I never proposed it.04:19
naliothnickrud: yes, s m e g04:19
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=== cafuego needs more coffee
nickrudheh04:20
Amaranthcafuego: I can't lock things.04:20
kiwibob2: How could I check that?04:20
=== Computer__Guru is stoned
bob2mm, coffee04:20
HurricanePinkSo I've got DVDs playing in Xine now... but the picture output looks a little strange. o.O04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: do you have a key?04:20
bob2kiwi: ls -ld /where/you/mounted/it/04:20
Amaranthhaha04:20
Amaranth!lock smeg04:20
Velcanhow can i change my mouse so that left+right click != middle click04:20
knowledge_guys...I'm installing the updates...and it's saying "configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386" for a long time04:20
knowledge_how long does that take?04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: Are you identified?04:20
Amaranthoh, you locked it04:20
smegNICE.... I'm leechin all kinds a shit offa bt now :)04:20
smegthanks04:20
Amaranthi thought we needed dcc for that04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: Yes, i saw you struggling ;-)04:20
smegI'll have Sin City DVD by tomorrow :004:20
naringasgnome is strange04:20
cafuegoAmaranth: no, /m bot identify <pass>04:21
Amaranthsmeg: Can you change your nick please? That's going to get confusing.04:21
LinuxJonesAmaranth, smeg is definately needed what could they be thinking that users are going to edit text files by hand ?04:21
Computer__Gurui converted the three disc svcd to dvd myself :D04:21
cafuegoAmaranth: dcc is only for chatline command (like die, rehash, etc)04:21
smegLinuxJones, I am needed04:21
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Computer__Guruavidemux is your friend04:21
smegthanks!04:21
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Amaranthcafuego: I forgot my password. :)04:21
kiwibob2: read-write by root, read-only by users/group04:21
LinuxJonesheh04:21
smegj/k about the leeching stuff btw04:21
neuronlapseHi, how can I unlock my /dev/ttyS0 cable in ubuntu?04:21
bob2kiwi: cool, that's normal04:21
Amaranthsmeg: Please?04:21
neuronlapseI checked with fuser and no apps are using it04:21
cafuegoubotu: lobotomy04:21
ubotucafuego: No idea04:21
smegsigh04:21
smegokay04:21
bob2kiwi: if you want to change the permissions, use chmod04:21
cafuegotypical04:21
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JDahlugo, what architecture do you use when you compile for AMD 64bit? Openafs has support for lots of i386_xxx, but for 64bit you only seem to have sparc, alpha, ia6404:21
naliothjcarr, sure you were kidding, you pirate! lol04:22
=== Amaranth will fix it for good
kiwiOk, thanks. =D04:22
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Amaranth:D04:22
naringasso, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNOME is the way to edit the applications menu in gnome 2.1004:22
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bob2er04:22
bob2that seems a tad excessive04:22
nickrudneuronlapse, take a look in /var/lock04:22
HurricanePinkThe DVD image looks all... uh... liney.04:22
Computer__Guruwtf is +q?04:22
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Amaranthbob2: I'll get rid of it in a bit.04:22
HurricanePinkLike interlaced or whatever it is. ^^;04:22
jcarrnalioth, "ARGH!!! Shimber me tembers!!! I must unload these leet warez at the nearest ftp!"04:22
naliothComputer__Guru: mute the user it's placed on04:22
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bob2Computer__Guru: like +b, but they can join still.  ie it "quiets" them04:22
neuronlapsenickrud: already tried, just lvm in there04:22
Amaranthnaringas: yeah04:22
Computer__Guruhahaha04:22
jcarr*timbers04:23
Computer__Gururight on04:23
Computer__Gurucan they change nicks?04:23
ugoJDahl: there's apparently a hidden configure option04:23
naringasso, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNU is Not Unix Network Object Model Environment is the way to edit the applications menu04:23
nickrudneuronlapse, that's the only place I've seen a ttys0 lock, so ...04:23
bob2Computer__Guru: think so04:23
neuronlapsebooo :(04:23
Computer__Gurulike if you +q me can i change my nick to YouSuck04:23
neuronlapseheh04:23
Amaranthhaha04:23
knowledge_so anyone know how long that usually takes?04:23
Amaranthnaringas: That's nothing, expand PHP-GTK.04:23
Velcanam i right in thinking the line 'Option"Emulate3Buttons""false" ' will be my solution?04:23
neuronlapsei'm using pppd over serial with my phone as a modem04:23
knowledge_"configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386"04:23
Velcanin the xorg.conf04:23
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nickrudneuronlapse, yes, I assumed so, that's where my lock shows up04:24
AmaranthVelcan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:24
neuronlapsettyS0 was working but when i killed off pppd i think it got locked04:24
=== naringas stands amazed
bob2knowledge_: go make a cup of tea04:24
ugoJDahl: amd64_linux2404:24
marshi.have.a.roblem...after.cutomizing.keyboard.hortcut.i've.lotload.of.letter04:24
AmaranthVelcan: tell it to not emulate 3 buttons04:24
jcarrheh... "warez" the warez, d00dz? :P04:24
Computer__Gurucause i know if you're banned on a channel you cant change your nick if it will affect the ban04:24
Velcanthanks04:24
knowledge_bob2, Point very well taken04:24
JDahlugo, do you have kernel 2.4?04:24
blastmanuhi04:24
Amaranthmarsh: You can't hit the spacebar anymore? :)04:24
ugohey J how do i get the red?04:24
neuronlapsethanks anyway nickrud... a reboot might do the trick04:24
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marshno04:24
hoofhi04:24
Amaranthugo: like this?04:24
naliothComputer__Guru: knowledgable ops will ban you into a new ISP04:24
ugoyeah....?04:24
Amaranthmarsh: So uncustomize it. :)04:24
Computer__Gurumarsh:thatsgottareallysuck04:24
Amaranthugo: It happens when someone says your nick.04:25
blastmanuwhere is i found of files .torrent for testing bittorent please ?04:25
cafuegoComputer__Guru: notsbasyoumighthting04:25
ugougo04:25
hoofi just installed ubuntu yesterday...i was a fedora user...im still getting used to the ubuntu environment04:25
marshor.theonebetween.v&n.ortheonebetween.a&d04:25
ugougo hi04:25
cafuegougo: someone not you, normally.04:25
Computer__Gurunalioth: yeah i know, just making a point04:25
naliothblastmanu: legaltorrents.org04:25
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hoofso far, i find ubuntu to be better than fedora04:25
neuronlapsehoof: me too :)04:25
jcarrComputer__Guru, lol... I am banned from a certain efnet channel for life! They banned me back in 200104:25
ugooh ok....better to test on me....04:25
jcarrstill banned04:25
naringasPHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix04:25
neuronlapseI'm a gentoo user really, but I'm testing ubuntu for my gf04:25
marshAmaranth, Itried.and.have.but.te.key.till.don'twork04:25
cafuegonow about that coffee04:25
neuronlapseit's great for new linux users04:25
naringasPHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix ToolKit04:25
jcarrall it was over was typing too fast and the called it flooding04:25
Computer__Gurucafuego:iusedtotalklikethisjusttopisspeopleoffinglobopsondalnetallthetime04:25
jcarrnarlings: WRONG04:26
jcarrer, naringas04:26
ugoJDahl I have the 2.6.10-5 kernel04:26
Amaranthblastmanu: http://bt.etree.org/04:26
naringasehh!?04:26
neuronlapsei'm tempted to use it myself but gnome is too heavy on my laptop04:26
naringaswah?04:26
jcarrnaringas: gtk.php.net04:26
JDahlugo, and you remembered to specify different links to the kernel header files and kernel source?04:26
hoofi tried to compile kernel 2.6.12 but i got some errors...could any of you guys refer me to a site that will instruct me how to compile kernel 2.6.12 from within ubuntu?04:26
jcarrYOU HAVE IT WRONGF04:26
marshhow.can.i.re5et.defualt5?04:26
blastmanuok merci04:26
nickrudcelebese beans, freshly ground (tongue hanging out)04:26
blastmanuthanks04:26
ivan_qkanybody know how to init ubuntu without startx?04:26
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jcarrit is HIDDEOUSLY slow04:26
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: so install something like fluxbox or even better xfce04:26
jcarrI developed an app using it for the Zend PHP competition04:26
JDahlugo, amd64_linux24 would be for kernel 2.4... I think openafs is still considered beta, at best, for linux2.604:27
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: I thought ubuntu was totally dependent on gnome?04:27
neuronlapseI'm using fluxbox on this machine that I'm using now04:27
Computer__Guruthat reminds me i need to do a sysv init audit04:27
neuronlapse(in gentoo)04:27
marshtheyareallkey5.that.i.ut.in.a5.ctrl.5hft.[key] 04:27
AmaranthPHP-GTK == Personal Home Pages Hypertext Preprocessor GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program ToolKit04:27
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jcarrPHP-GTK is for those who feel that Java applets that use the older GUI library (that one before Swing) is too fast04:27
ugoJDahl no i specified the headers only04:27
LinuxJonesivan_qk, Ubuntu should give you the gdm login screen by default04:27
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: nope. i'm running kde, but i was setting up xfce yesterday04:27
ivan_qkyes04:27
ugoJDahl...right04:27
ivan_qki dont wanna that04:27
kiwiUm... will the access permissions be changed after reboot?04:27
imaekAccording to netstat, the package "ftpd" is actually inetd, and I can't get one specific user to be able to access their ftp04:27
ivan_qkhow i cant quit that?04:27
neuronlapseah, cool :)04:28
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ugoJDah: what about arla...?04:28
ivan_qkcan*04:28
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ugoJDahl: what about arla...?04:28
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: how would I go about getting rid of gnome and putting in fluxbox?04:28
LinuxJonesivan_qk, ok then sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove04:28
rob^when using Synaptic to add universe/multiverse repositories, are they already listed in synaptic on a default install or do you need to add them?04:28
naringasthe php i didn't know, the gtk i forgot04:28
Computer__Guruimaek: may i recommend proftpd or another replacement for standard ftpd (which, imho, blows)04:28
Amaranthjcarr: PHP-GTK isn't that slow04:28
ugoJDahl: is there any possibility in that direction04:28
tritiumrob^, universe is listed, but commented out.  multiverse must be added04:28
bob2rob^: you need to add them04:28
Amaranthjcarr: And version 2 uses GTK2 so it doesn't look like crap either.04:28
rob^thanks04:28
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: apt-get remove gnome-desktop && apt-get install fluxbox04:29
JDahlugo, compiling arla is not for the faint of heart... what happened when you tried to rebuild the i386 for amd64?04:29
ivan_qkthanks alot man04:29
ivan_qku are gret person :d04:29
neuronlapseComputer__Guru: what about all the gnome-dependent packages? :)04:29
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marsh5o .how.do.i.get.rid.of.problem?04:29
LinuxJonesivan_qk, why thank you very much :D04:29
Computer__Guruwell you don't HAVE to get rid of gnome, youknow04:29
jcarrAmaranth, yes, but... I just don't feel PHP-GTK is a step in the right direction. Perhaps one day it will be, but that day isn't today04:29
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neuronlapseI'd have to on my laptop04:30
Amaranthjcarr: I don't like it either. The right direction is PyGTK. :)04:30
neuronlapseway too heavy04:30
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: do this: apt-get install fluxbox, then log out of gnome, and at the gdm screen, choose session type, and change it to fluxbox04:30
ugoJDahl rerunning it now...just a sec04:30
marsh5hortcuts5.are.not.defined.for.the5e .keys04:30
jcarrI'm a Qt fan myself04:30
Amaranthmeh04:30
cafuegothe problem with pygtk is py.04:30
cafuegoand gtk04:30
jcarrI've only done QT work in C++ though04:30
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marshand.i.can.find.no.way.to.reset .them04:30
neuronlapseok point taken... thanks Computer__Guru, I'll try that out04:30
Computer__Gurulol@cafuegu04:30
Amaranthcafuego: heretic!04:30
naliothcafuego: so only the 'oink' works?04:30
Computer__Guruanytime04:30
marsh    hjkhsssdf04:31
neuronlapsecan I remove gdm too?04:31
JDahlugo, for i386 you can build a working version of openafs in an hour or two, if you follow the INSTALL guide line by line... but there's a lot of low-level kernel stuff that might not've been ported to AMD6404:31
neuronlapseand use qingy?04:31
kevin_got a dumb ?? what is fluxbox? totally new to linux lol04:31
tritiumnalioth, have you installed on your new iMac yet?04:31
marshshit - they just came back!04:31
Amaranthkevin_: You don't want it.04:31
cafuegoAmaranth: I have come to that considered opinion after doing some pygtk debugging.04:31
kevin_k04:31
naliothtritium: please dont get me started04:31
marshYipeeeee!!!!04:31
naliothPLEASE DONT04:31
ugoJDahl yeah...now since my kernel is x86_64.....?04:31
naliothheh04:31
Computer__Gurukevin_: it's a window manager like gnome or kde, but extremely lightweight and streamlined04:31
rob^also, by default, does the normal repos and universe repos point to archive.ubuntu.com or to the country you supplied during installation (in my case au.archive.ubuntu.com)04:31
tritiumnalioth, sorry, I never heard what happened..04:31
neuronlapseFluxbox is great04:31
JDahlugo, just making idle conversation04:31
ugoJDahl whats the best option...downgrade?04:31
marshbin like that since friday morning04:31
Amaranthfluxbox is not for Normal Users04:31
imaekComputer__Guru: Alright, I now have proftpd, but again I cannot access this specific user's FTP04:31
neuronlapsegnome's a desktop manager isn't it, technically?04:32
AmaranthDesktop Environment04:32
AmaranthIt includes a WM called metacity.04:32
cafuegoimaek: Check the ftp and/or auth logs.04:32
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neuronlapseyep that's it04:32
Computer__Guruimaek: okay, make sure proftpd is running from within inetd.conf, then make sure that your user is a member of the group ftp04:32
JDahlugo, give me a few to refresh my memory on ./configure for openafs... then you can try the same04:32
cafuegoimaek: Does that user have a valid shell?04:32
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neuronlapsefluxbox takes a lotta getting used to, but i like it04:32
ugoJDahl ok....appreciate your help04:32
Amaranthcafuego: PyGTK is preferred Ubuntu language/toolkit. :)04:32
ZeroXphello04:32
Amarantherr, is the04:33
kevin_ok, I am using xfce and I cannot get it to where I xna get to my menus or none of that. to use xchat I have to open a term and type xchat04:33
Computer__Gurui prefer xfce, it's faster than flux04:33
neuronlapsereally?04:33
ZeroXpaloooooooooo04:33
Computer__Guruof course, windowmaker is faster than both of them04:33
imaekcafuego: I don't know. How can I check?04:33
neuronlapseI've never tried it04:33
cafuegoAmaranth: Yes, I noticed. Doesn't mean it's not shit, though.04:33
ugoJDahl ok....i have arla here also it seems to have the same kind of errors04:33
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cafuegoimaek: Check /etc/shells04:33
Amaranthcafuego: What do you use?04:33
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: apt-get install xfce404:33
neuronlapsewhat about fvwm?04:33
Amaranthcafuego: btw, language04:33
cafuegoimaek: Make sure their shell is listed.04:33
ugoJDahl ok....and they both seem more gcc4 related04:33
zaudragonhelp!04:33
Computer__Gurudunno, havent used it in years04:33
neuronlapseso Computer_Guru, why do you prefer ubuntu over debian?04:33
cafuegoAmaranth: Dutch, germand and english.04:33
imaekcafuego: I don't know which shell is their shell04:33
Amaranthcafuego: haha, i meant watch your language :)04:34
cafuegoimaek: it's listed in /etc/passwd04:34
Amaranthcafuego: what do you use instead of pygtk?04:34
cafuegoAmaranth: I always do.04:34
zaudragonwhat's the passwor on the LiveCD's?04:34
zaudragon*password04:34
Amaranth'ubuntu', iirc04:34
Computer__Guruneuronlapse: it's put together better, and all the automagic scripting they do to make installation easy04:34
JDahlugo, is it possible to mix gcc4 and gcc3.4 on your system? or too much trouble?04:34
crimsunthere isn't one. If you need one, set it.04:34
zaudragonm0nk: really?04:34
cafuegoAmaranth: Nothing, I use C on the cli and avoid GUI apps like the plague.04:34
zaudragonwoah04:34
imaekcafuego: it doesn't seem to have one.  How can I add one?04:34
ugoJDahl is it possible to have both?04:34
Amaranthcafuego: I take it you're a screen and/or ratpoison user.04:34
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cafuegoimaek: 'sudo chsh user'04:35
cafuego(I think)04:35
Amaranthcafuego: With w3m embedded in emacs.04:35
zaudragonm0nk: DENIED04:35
Amaranthcafuego: and erc04:35
zaudragonack04:35
zaudragonI mean Amaranth04:35
cafuegoAmaranth: LANGUAGE!04:35
ugoJDahl id do whatever....im not really a gcc4 fan anymore....04:35
neuronlapseComputer_Guru: from first impressions over the last few hours it seems great for anyone that wants a fully fledged desktop that installs very fast, also very organised and nice gui04:35
Computer__Guruyeah i like it04:35
JDahlugo, I think so, but you better get a second opionon on that - I never tried gcc4.004:35
imaekcafuego: IT WORKS!04:35
cafuegoimaek: I'm magic.04:35
neuronlapseI'm a bit put off by all the apps installed by default04:35
Amaranthcafuego: I don't see how anyone can avoid X and _not_ use emacs.04:35
neuronlapsebut hey they can be removed04:35
Computer__Guruim gonna audit my sysv init system, i'll be back in a little bit04:36
Amaranthcafuego: I'm a gedit user myself though, so meh.04:36
fortysixand2Computer__Guru is still high on XFCE4?  :D04:36
ugoJDahl right....hmm....04:36
neuronlapseit'll be perfect for my gf tho, she's new to linux but keen to learn04:36
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Computer__Gurufortysixand2: nah, im back in kde.. but xfce4 was very impresisve04:36
Amaranthcafuego: vi sucks! :D04:36
Computer__Guruimpressive04:36
fortysixand2really?  why?04:36
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ugoAmarnath hey do you know if its possible to mix gcc3 and 4 on the same box04:36
Amaranthcafuego: nano > *04:36
zaudragonAmaranth: 'ubuntu' didn't work04:36
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Computer__Gurujust already have everything setup how i like it04:36
Amaranthzaudragon: try no password04:36
bddebianAmaranth: Amen! :-)04:36
fortysixand2ah04:36
neuronlapsevi is king :-P04:37
Computer__Gurualthough i wish i could find kde window decorations as nice as those in xfce404:37
cafuegobddebian: amaranth is trolling, could you +q it?04:37
zaudragonAmaranth: Login Cancelled04:37
cafuegobob2 even04:37
Amaranthcafuego: haha04:37
DaveyAnyone know of a status bar indicator for my UPS?04:37
kevin_I use gedit or vi04:37
bddebiancafuego: ?04:37
cafuegoAmaranth: Incidentally, did the locking work after you were identified?04:37
Amaranthoh, that reminds me, since everyone else stays opped...04:37
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Computer__Guruanyone who uses vi is a masochist04:37
Amaranthcafuego: no, i don't know my password04:37
paxyou use vim04:38
cafuego<heh>04:38
Computer__Gururather, anybody who uses it by choice04:38
fortysixand2vi > emacs04:38
fortysixand2*flame on*04:38
zaudragonAmaranth: no password did not work04:38
=== zaudragon is desperate
Amaranthvi -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim04:38
Computer__Guruvi < joe04:38
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Amaranthzaudragon: No clue then, sorry.04:38
AmaranthI've never used the LiveCD.04:38
zaudragonAmarath: thanks anyways04:38
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Computer__Gurusorry, not a vi fan04:38
Amaranthcafuego: ?04:38
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zaudragonanyone in here use the LiveCD?04:39
paxhow big is emcas 22MB last time I checked? you call that editor?04:39
zaudragonor used?04:39
karvryea just got it going04:39
bddebianzaudragon: I have, what's the problem?04:39
Computer__Guruyeah emacs is a word processor, at the very least04:39
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zaudragonbddebian: what's the password?04:39
fortysixand2password?04:39
Computer__Gurunot to mention just about any programming ide you want it to be04:39
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Computer__Guruemail program04:39
bddebianzaudragon: Password for what?04:39
Computer__Guruetc etc etc04:39
fortysixand2for root?04:39
karvryou are root of the live cd04:39
mamehi04:39
zaudragonbddebian: like Ilocked the sc reen04:40
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karvrreboot04:40
bddebianHello mame04:40
Computer__Gurui should download charlie and the chocolate factory04:40
ahuman01Which repository has Azureus ?04:40
fortysixand2reboot +104:40
mameI have a presario R3000 but mouse doesnt work ... and i dont know too much about xorg ... Someone could help me ?04:40
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Computer__Guruahuman01: i wasnt aware there was one04:40
AmaranthComputer__Guru: Please don't discuss illegal activities here.04:40
Computer__Guruoh my lord04:40
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Computer__Guruyou got it, buddy04:40
ahuman01Computer__Guru, ahh ok04:41
kevin_well, I am going to go to the ubuntuweb site and see what wkse I can figure out04:41
bddebianzaudragon: Yeah, you may be stuck rebooting unfortunately04:41
dapimp53Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper04:41
karvrthis live cd works very well, i may actuially make some space on the hd and install this04:41
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Computer__Guru8-)04:41
cafuegoAmaranth: there ya go04:41
mamenobody for my little mouse ?04:42
Amaranthubotu: Amaranth is testing something04:42
ubotuokay, Amaranth04:42
Amaranthubotu: lock Amaranth04:42
ubotuAmaranth: locking factoid amaranth04:42
zaudragonkarvr/me leaves04:42
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zaudragonthanks anyways guys04:42
paxforget emacs and vim, I'll use Joe, Joe's Own Editor04:42
Amaranthsomeone type 'ubotu: no, Amaranth is foo' please04:42
bddebianzaudragon: Sorry04:42
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cafuegoubotu: no, Amaranth is foo04:42
ubotucafuego: okay04:42
tritiumComputer__Guru, sorry to know that's what you're doing04:42
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Amaranthgah04:42
Amaranthof course you can change it :P04:42
cafuegomaybe I should not be reg'd though ;-)04:42
mamepax, I used to use it but now i'm only using vim ...04:42
mame:)04:42
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karvrcan anyone see this typing ...?04:42
bddebianmame: Doesn't work at all?  What have you tried so far?04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo04:43
ubotuokay, cafuego_04:43
bddebiankarvr: Nope :-)04:43
Amaranthkarvr: no :)04:43
karvrlol04:43
nickrudubotu: no, amaranth is knowledgeable04:43
ubotunickrud: okay04:43
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cafuego_broken POS04:43
Amaranthgah, hang on04:43
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Amaranthubotu: Amaranth04:43
ubotuI heard amaranth is knowledgeable04:43
Amaranthubotu: lock Amaranth04:43
ubotuAmaranth: locking factoid amaranth04:43
Amaranthtry again04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo04:43
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tmthello04:43
karvri cant believe i actually go 10 cds in the mail lol.....04:43
cafuego_ubotu: no, Amaranth is really foo04:43
ubotucafuego_: okay04:43
mamebddebian, nope I just installed ubuntu on this laptop and everything is ok except the mouse ...04:43
Amaranthwtf04:43
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Amaranthit fails the first time?04:43
tmtI'm having trouble with my konicawc based webcam04:43
neuronlapsewhat's the easiest way to compile a custom kernel on ubuntu?04:44
cafuego_Amaranth: no, 28 seconds flood protection told me to go jump04:44
Computer__Gurutritium: in a fascist or closed-minded community, it is often necessary to use code, or speak very vaguely. If you'd like an example of this, please refer to studies done of the song "Tamborine Man" by Bob Dylan04:44
bddebianmame: Is is a USB or PS/2 mouse?04:44
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tmtneuronlapse: did you download the kernel source?04:44
AmaranthComputer__Guru: _HIGHLY_ off-topic.04:44
Computer__Guruokay, ill shutup04:44
Computer__Guru;)04:45
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crimsunjust take it to #ubuntu-offtopic04:45
dapimp53Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper04:45
mamebddebian, it's a laptop computer ....04:45
bddebiandapimp53: Google :-)04:45
Computer__Gurunah iw as just being a smartass anyways, ill just stop04:45
dapimp53mame: what type of laptop04:45
bddebianmame: Oh, synaptic touchpad kinda thing?04:45
Amaranthok, no more talking to me04:45
mamedapimp53, presario R300004:45
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mamebddebian, dont know04:45
cafuego_Amaranth: I see, the bot checks hostmask for locking, not user.04:45
nashifeI'm trying to install sun java's java on ubuntu, so that I can get azereus to work, and I can't figure out how to install the .bin file. can someone help? I'm new to linux...04:45
dapimp53who is the manufacturer of the bios?04:45
bddebianmame: Trackstick or touchpad?04:46
mameis there a way to maximize a window by key ?04:46
Amaranthcafuego: But it worked when nickrud did it too.04:46
cafuegoAmaranth: grr04:46
mamebddebian, touchpad ...04:46
ugoJDahl so it seems its ok to mix04:46
nashifeI've tried searching google, but I can't find help... so I'm checking here... can someone help?04:46
Amaranthmame: alt+space, then x04:46
ugothe next question is how to do it with apt get04:46
mameAmaranth, thanks04:46
JDahlugo, ./configure-libafs complains about a missing src/libafs/Makefile.in, but it works if you just symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX (probably works for AMD also)04:47
ugoJDahl: any pointers04:47
dapimp53mame: check in your bios if your bios supports legacy usb. If it does, disable it. It fixed my touchpad04:47
mamebddebian, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?04:47
bddebianAye04:47
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mameaye quoi  ?04:47
bddebianAye as in yes :-)04:47
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ugoJDahl: what was the command you typed for configure04:48
HurricanePinkKino doesn't seem to like to open video files. --;04:48
ugoJDahl: i didnt get any problems during that part04:48
mamebddebian, do u think the thing about the BIOS that dapimp53 will help me ?04:48
tritiumnashife, I'd recommend using java-package to build a .deb from the .bin you have04:48
tritium!java04:48
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.04:48
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bddebianmame: It can, try that first04:48
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god04:48
nickrud!realplayer04:48
ubotunickrud: I give up, what is it?04:48
nashifetritium, how can I do that?04:48
nickrud!realplay04:48
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue04:48
JDahlugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-504:48
crimsun!info java-package04:48
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB04:48
mameok i'm going back in 3 minutes04:48
mame:)04:48
crimsunnashife: ^^04:49
JDahlugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --prefix=/usr/local04:49
nashifecrimsun, ^.-04:49
seth_knashife: indeed, I just updated the Java how-to today, so it should be impeccably correct04:49
tritiumnashife, give that a try, and if you run into trouble, let me know04:49
nashifeseth_k, can you give me a link? just in the howtos on ubuntulinux.com?04:49
JDahlugo, that's two commands: ./configure and ./configure-libafs, but you probably figured that out04:50
seth_k  ubotu gave you the link nashife04:50
ubotuseth_k: I give up, what is it?04:50
tmtwhen I try to use my intel webcam with camorama, it freezes up camorama and won't unload the konicawc module04:50
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god04:50
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bddebianWillySilly: ??04:50
tmtI don't see anything in messages04:50
fortysixand2WillySilly:  wtf?04:50
fortysixand2are you Nietzsche?04:51
bddebianheh04:51
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paxI don't think god is in /dev anyway, try just plain rm -rf /  he's probably there.04:52
dravinehowdy everyone04:52
bddebianHello dravine04:52
nickrudhey, dravine04:52
dravineso, anyone know how to get postgres to not need ident?04:52
dravineI'm going nuts trying to get it to talk to my webserver/php04:52
seth_knashife: did you find the link?04:52
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arnavhey ho04:53
arnavneed some help on creating debs on ubuntu04:53
bddebianHello arnav04:53
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bddebianarnav: What kind of help>?04:53
nashifeseth_k, i'm looking for it right now04:53
seth_kwhat are you creating them from, arnav?04:53
seth_kubotu tell nashife about java04:53
nickrudseth_k, heh, that is a much cleaner page now :)04:54
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arnavam creating them from source tar files04:54
dravineanyone else run into this?04:54
seth_kjust for you, arnav, or would you like to distribute them to others? are the sources already debianized (e.g. with a debian/ directory)04:54
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hoofi need help in compiling kernel 2.6.1204:56
mameback04:56
bddebianmame: Any luck?04:56
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mamenothing about legacy usb in the bios...04:56
bddebianhoof: Why do you need to compile it?04:56
mamebddebian, nope04:56
mamewhat's next ?04:57
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jcfreakanyone know a work around to get into cups web admin?04:57
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nickrudjcfreak, yes, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, restart cups, and point at :63104:58
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bddebianmame: I am reading a site that says you may need a kernel patch.  Hang on.  You said that this is an R3000 right?04:58
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jcfreaknickrud: thanks, i'll give that a shot04:59
nickrudjcfreak, it was recommended to me to deluser cupsys shadow and restart cups, after each use04:59
mamebddebian, apparently int he bios i saw R3200 but on it's written R300004:59
JDahlugo, it's compiling (and will be for the next hour or so), and seems to work doing just what pasted earlier - after that it's just a matter of configuration, as far as I remember04:59
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hoofbddebian: because it's the kernel source.  How am I supposed to install it?05:00
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kamstrumentalI just downloaded 3 icon sets... Anybody give me a lead on how to install these puppies?05:00
nameless1i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface05:01
neuronlapsehow do i set a kernel module to load at boot time?05:01
bddebianhoof: Hoary?05:01
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dapimp53has anyone here installed madwifi on there ubuntu install?05:01
tritiumneuronlapse, list it in /etc/modules05:01
crimsunneuronlapse: append its name to /etc/modules05:01
mamebddebian, so ... do you have  an idea ?05:01
bddebianmame: Everything I have read so far says you need a kernel patch and an updated driver for the ALPS touchpad05:01
neuronlapsethanks :)05:01
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nickrudkamstrumental, extract them into ~/.icons05:01
neuronlapsenever needed to use a module before05:01
hoofbddebian: can we talk in private?05:02
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bddebianSure05:02
ugoJDahl: all done05:02
mamebddebian, which kernel patch ? and where can i find the driver for ALPS ? in the testing version ?05:02
kamstrumentalnickrud: I can add multiple sets at once?05:02
ed1tkamstrumental, go to system > preferences > theme, and then click on install new theme and locate the .tar.gz file05:02
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bddebianmame: Google a little.  I found two different sites explaining the problem.05:02
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nameless1i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface05:03
mamebddebian, hard when you dont have a fucking mouse ...05:03
nashifeseth_k, I followed the instructions and added the new repositories, but synaptic says I already have that version of java installed.  This means something is wrong?05:03
marianohola  a todos estoy probando  este hermoso y pintoresco sistema opertivo05:03
seth_kmariano: #ubuntu-es05:03
tritiummariano, #ubuntu-es por favor05:03
nashifehow can i get azereus and other java applications working in ubuntu?05:03
ed1tnashife, trying to install jre 1.5?05:03
bddebianSheesh05:04
seth_knashife: that's just java common. Keep following the rest of the steps to install java itself05:04
nashifeedlt, how can I install it?  my first question was how do i install the .bin file from the sun website, but no one answered05:04
r0danyone in here every patch their orinoco driver for monitor mode?05:04
seth_knashife: you have to download that 50MB file from Sun's site05:04
tritiumnashife, we did answer you, actually05:04
JDahlugo, compiled and everything?05:04
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nickrudkamstrumental, you can have as many icon directories in ~/.icons as you want; you can select them by using System-Preferences-theme, button Theme Details tab icons05:04
ed1t!tell nashife about java05:05
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nashifetritium, sorry if you answered.  Maybe I couldn't understand the answer...05:05
marianohola aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:05
tritiumnashife, I recommended you use java-package and gave you a URL to follow.  crimsun provided an additional URL05:05
ugoJDahl: apparently05:06
tritiummariano, #ubuntu-es, por favor05:06
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ugoJDahl: it had no errors05:06
nashifetritium,  you gave me a url?05:06
nashifetritium, i'll scroll up and look again05:06
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tritiumnashife, it's the wiki page seth_k was referring you to as well05:07
kamstrumentalnickrud: thanks again05:07
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nashifetritium, yes, i found that link finally and i'm trying to follow the instructions05:07
hondje_how can I change screens in irssi over ssh from a mac? It has no alt key05:07
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nashifetritium, seth_k, i didn't know that the ubotu user was an infobot05:07
nashifesorry05:07
seth_khaha no worries05:07
JDahlugo, and see the build libraries somewhere src in the source tree? damn that fast - I should get a new computer05:07
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seth_kneed him to tell you the url again?05:07
tritiumnashife, no problem :)05:07
weisnashife, type /window (window number)05:08
weisthat drives me batty on my mac05:08
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JDahlugo, s/see/you see05:08
nashifeno i got the message, and the url. i'm just still struggling to follow the instructions.05:08
heatxsinkhi all05:08
heatxsinkwhere can I find the default .Xsession for the system?05:08
nickrudkamstrumental, np, I get the low hanging fruit here :)05:08
ugohey its not over yet....05:08
hondje_weis: thanks05:08
ugoJDahl hey its not over yet....05:08
JiveNixanyone with soundblaster audigy 2?05:08
tritiumheatxsink, /etc/X11/05:08
seth_knashife: follow the instructions in JavaPackageBuildNewVersions05:08
weishondje: sorry, wrong name. No problem05:08
JiveNixworking under ubuntu?05:08
heatxsinkJiveNix, me05:08
JiveNixheatxsink, did it work out of the box install?05:09
crimsunJiveNix: just unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack05:09
heatxsinkJiveNix, what crimsun said05:09
heatxsinkJiveNix, I still cannot get firewire working05:09
JiveNixwhere is that setting? alsamixer?05:09
heatxsinkI dunno whyh05:09
JiveNixi'd be happy with sound, period :D05:09
heatxsinkright on05:09
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r0ddo i need to patch pcmcia-cs to use monitor mode on my card. cant i just use the kernel pcmcia?05:09
heatxsinktritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add05:09
bddebianDamn I'm too slow..05:10
JiveNixanyone willing to hold my hand through it?05:10
heatxsinkin my .Xsession file05:10
JiveNixi'm new to linux in general05:10
heatxsinkJiveNix, you need to apt-get alsa-mixer05:10
crimsunJiveNix: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on05:10
heatxsinknm05:10
kevinthat's what I need to do on this laptop yet, I keep forgetting to set the sound up lol05:10
heatxsinkcrimsun, got it05:10
JiveNixok let me try it05:10
JiveNixi should have come here last night05:10
mamebddebian, could you give the links to the two articles you saw about the touchpad problem ?05:10
heatxsinkI meant crimsun got it05:10
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bddebianmame: One is:  http://www.plausible.org/r300z/05:11
bddebianmame: There are links to the other one from there05:11
JiveNixunable to find simple control 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',005:11
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crimsunJiveNix: paste amixer output onto the topic's pastebin05:11
heatxsinktritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add in my .Xsession file05:11
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mamebddebian, ok thnks05:12
heatxsinktritium, what I didn't realize is that when I make a .Xsession file, it doesn't run the default one first05:12
JiveNixhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/65205:12
JiveNixmy motherboard has onboard sound too05:12
JiveNixi never use it05:12
tritiumheatxsink, you tried your own ~/.Xsession ?05:12
heatxsinkJiveNix, did you disable it in your bios?05:12
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JiveNixno, let me try that05:13
JiveNixi'll be back05:13
heatxsinkk05:13
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mamebddebian, are you sure about your link ?05:13
heatxsinktritium, yes, but I believe that i have to implement which session I'd like05:13
heatxsinkbut I don't remember how to do that05:13
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flodineanyone running E17 yet05:13
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scoperesolutionanyone know how to get a usb hd to auto mount?05:14
bddebianmame: Whoops should be /r3000z/05:14
kamstrumentalwhere is the wallpaper folder anyone?05:14
jcfreaknickrud: thanks for the help...that worked great05:14
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nickrudjcfreak, I freaked out until I got told about that ;)05:14
tfort_thank god.. finally got WoW to install05:14
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weis/usr/share/backgrounds05:14
sizzamif i run a program with wine, how do i give myself the ability to browse to folders that lay outside of my fake_windows folder05:14
tritiumheatxsink, I'm not sure05:14
heatxsinkahh05:14
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heatxsinktritium, i found that file in /etc/X11 but I think that's a top level Xsession file, I'm gonna go through that more throughly and figure out where it's pulling the "default" settings from.05:15
kamstrumentalweis: it says i do not have privelages?05:15
weiskamstrumental: might need root priv.05:16
tritiumheatxsink, you asked where the system level one was, right?  That's it.05:16
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JDahlugo, building it was faster than I remembered.. now it's done and I have /src/openafs/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.10-5-686-SP/libafs.ko. After a "sudo make install" I should be able to manually load that module and run afsd. If you get that far, you should be ok (modulo configuration, where you're on you own)05:16
weiskamstrumental: you could change permissions on the backgrounds folder to allow anyone to write to it, or you could do a sudo bash from the console and copy it manually05:16
heatxsinktritium, so if I just cp'ed it from /etc/X11/ to ~/ and added my stuff to the end of it?05:16
WillySillyrm -rf /dev/god05:16
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heatxsinkhaha05:16
bddebiantritium: WillySilly ?05:17
neuronlapseI'm trying to setup irda but /dev/ircomm0 doesn't exist05:17
tritiumbddebian, what?05:17
neuronlapsewell I used mknod to create it05:17
kamstrumentalweis: must i log out as user and log in as admin?05:17
neuronlapsebut I think I might need a kernel modules05:17
weiskamstrumental, no, just open a root shell from the applications menu05:17
kamstrumentalweis: because as is, i cannot change permissions05:17
JDahlugo, as a last note, you may have to manually copy the library to the right /lib/modules dir and update modconf etc. (I think I had to do that last time)05:17
tritiumheatxsink, you can if you like, although you don't need to copy it.  Your personalized one can contain only what you need.05:17
heatxsinktritium, so how would I just start gnome-session?05:18
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nickrudkamstrumental, just sudo cp the background picture into into /usr/share/backgrounds05:18
dapimp53_when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:18
dapimp53_ How do I fix it05:19
tritiumheatxsink, I see.  You're not running a display manager like gdm?05:19
heatxsinki am05:19
heatxsinkI used to do this on slackware05:19
kamstrumentalweis: would it be "sudo cp filename.png /usr/share/backgrounds"?05:19
tritiumheatxsink, it should have a gnome-session for you automatically05:19
weiskamstrumental, with a trailing slash on backgrounds, like /backgrounds/05:19
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JiveNixok onboard sound disabled05:19
heatxsinkJiveNix, work?05:20
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tritiumheatxsink, what happens when gdm starts fo ryou?05:20
JiveNixstill no sound05:20
JiveNixusing the multimedia system selector test05:20
heatxsinkrun that one command05:20
ugoJDahl: checking whats been compiled right now05:20
heatxsinkthat the one dude gave you05:20
WillySillyrm -rf /05:20
heatxsinkshould work after that05:20
ugoJDahl: dude i cant thank you enough05:20
JiveNixcan you paste it again?05:20
WillySillythats what i call the apocalypse05:20
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tritiumWillySilly, please stop05:20
JiveNixnm05:20
JiveNixi remembered05:20
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crimsunJiveNix: what's the status of amixer's current output?05:21
WillySilly?05:21
nashifeseth_k, tritium, and anyone else.  is there more that I need to do after I finish the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions ? Do i need to restart? do I need to remove other versions of java? azereus still does not run...05:21
nickrudWillySilly, bad joke05:21
JiveNixoh shoot05:21
nashifedo i need to remove and re-add azereus?05:21
JDahlugo, as a matter you fact you can... let me just fetch my paypal number... brb05:21
heatxsinktritium, okay so when I define my own .Xsession with just my ssh-add gdm bombs cause there's not directive in the .Xsession file to start any kind of manager.05:21
JiveNixits all garbling05:21
WillySillyyou must have a bad sense of humor05:21
JiveNixi did amixer set 'audigy analog/digital output jack' on05:21
JiveNixand now its making a bubbling sound05:21
heatxsinktritium, i'm gonna try this thing again05:21
nickrudWillySilly, someone might try it, cuz they believe what they read here05:21
JiveNixbut at least its making some kind of sound05:21
tritiumheatxsink, you don't have to do that with ubuntu.  I'm not understanding why you're doing that, since you're running gdm.05:22
heatxsinkJiveNix, like when you click or something?05:22
JiveNixthats deffinitely a step forward05:22
JiveNixno its doing it constantly05:22
WillySillywell they shouldnt believe everything they read05:22
WillySillyits common sense05:22
bddebianWillySilly: If you don't need help or aren't going to help, why are you in this channel?05:22
heatxsinktritium, cause I don't want to have to enter a passpharse when opening a terminal session05:22
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heatxsinkdo a man on ssh-ad05:22
heatxsinkdo a man on ssh-add*05:22
seth_kWillySilly: stop spamming and stay on topic, please. People need help.05:22
heatxsinkyou'll see what i'm trying to do05:22
JiveNixany idea about this garbling?05:22
nashife:) like me. i need help. :)05:23
seth_knashife: no, that should be the end of it. You dpkg -i'd a deb?05:23
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D1does xine play mp3s? I can't get my totem-xine to play mp3s.05:23
nashifeseth_k, yes i did. and it seemed to install fine05:23
heatxsinktritium, brb05:23
WillySillymeh05:23
JiveNixuh oh05:23
nickrudWillySilly, :)05:23
nashifeseth_k, when i run azereus from the terminal, a long output comes up and then it just hangs.05:23
JiveNixanyone else can help wiht my sound card?05:24
dapimp53_when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:24
kamstrumentalweis: I entered the following: "sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/" and got: "cp: omitting directory `/home/daren/Desktop' -- cp: cannot stat `G.png': No such file or directory"05:24
bigfoot1hello all. I want to put the Preferences-->Keyboard-->Typing Break Applet on my panel.  I have it marked, but it's not showing up on my panel. What's up?05:24
seth_knashife: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and lemme have it :P05:24
crimsunJDahl: I really hope you're joking05:24
WillySilly:|05:24
kamstrumentalweis: i identified origin and destination.. wrong order of command?05:24
kevindapimp3: I use madwifi and it is working great05:24
mamebddebian, what's weird is that on this computer a debian was installed before this ubuntu and the touchpad was working .... So what is different between the Debian and Ubuntu kernels ?05:24
bddebiandapimp53: Did you run that as sudo?05:24
weiskamstrumental, you'll need to do this: sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop\ /G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/05:24
JDahlcrimsun, yeah... actually it did seem abit rude :S05:25
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weisthe space in your filename makes it look like two files05:25
dapimp53_bddebian: yes I did05:25
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dapimp53_kevin: I cant get madwifi to install... would you be willing to help me get it installed05:25
nashifeseth_k, this is embarrassing... but what's pastebin? paste the output and send it to your username? or...?05:25
ugoJDahl: where's the proper place to put this module05:25
ugo?05:25
kevinone sec I will post a link05:25
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bddebianmame: What kernel version are you running?  uname -a05:25
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seth_knashife: no worries. Click the link, then paste the output there05:25
nashifeaw, thanks tritium. someday i won't feel so dumb.05:25
seth_kabout time WillySilly left05:26
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mame2.6.1005:26
nashifeit's long. you want it in the main channel?05:26
tritiumnashife, you're not dumb.  You're learning something new.05:26
kevindapimp3:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4167005:26
kevinthis is what I used05:27
mamebddebian, 2.6.10 ... maybe another should work ....05:27
mameor maybe some module is not loaded ...05:27
nashife   1.05:27
nashife      java.nio.charset.UnsupportedCharsetException05:27
nashife   2.05:27
nashife         at java.nio.charset.Charset.forName (Charset.java:125)05:27
nashife   3.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:32)05:27
nashife   4.05:27
seth_knoooooooooooooo05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)05:27
nashife   5.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)05:27
nashife   6.05:27
nickrudhe did ask :)05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:110)05:27
nashife   7.05:27
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:145)05:28
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nashife   8.05:28
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nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)05:28
nashife   9.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.startup (AEDiagnostics.java:117 )05:28
seth_khe did ask! I didn't notice :(05:28
nashife  10.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.getLogger (AEDiagnostics.java:1 84)05:28
nashife  11.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.Debug.static{} (Debug.java:16)05:28
nashife  12.05:28
nashife         at java.lang.VMClass.step8 (VMClass.java)05:28
nashife  13.05:28
bddebianmame: What happens if you go to a terminal and type:  "sudo modprobe psmouse" ?05:28
nashife         at java.lang.Class.initialize (Class.java:145)05:28
nashife  14.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:37)05:28
nashife  15.05:28
arusweet05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)05:28
seth_kwell, at least we know it's not a java problem.05:28
nashife  16.05:28
JDahlugo, ideally a "sudo make install" should do it for you (I dont want to install it on this machine). Dont you get a library installed somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.10-xxx? I think you have tweak module loading yourself. First try loading it manually, and then start afsd, though05:28
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nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)05:28
nashife  17.05:28
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nashife  19.05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)05:28
nashife  20.05:28
seth_khahahahahahaha05:28
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationChecker.checkConfiguratio n (ConfigurationChecker.java:448)05:28
tritiumsheesh05:29
nashife  21.05:29
nashife         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.initialise (Confi gurationManager.java:91)05:29
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mamebddebian, nothing it's just loaded the module ...05:29
seth_kI told him to use pastebin...05:29
mameI can see it with lsmod05:29
tritiumno worries05:29
Madpilotooops... :)05:29
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bddebianmame: It did load?05:29
seth_kanyways, nashife, when you get back from quiet, this isn't a java problem05:29
tritiumnashife, sorry, just wanted to quite the channel down a bit05:29
mamebddebian, maybe i have to restart X ? yes it did05:29
Crisalitaalguien habla espaol?05:29
seth_knashife: the error shows that java is installed just fine. The problem is with azureus05:29
tritiumnashife, we'll show you how to use pastebin05:29
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bddebianmame: Yes, try to restart X05:30
D1can somebody tell me how to play mp3s with xine?05:30
aru:)05:30
aru!mp305:30
ubotuaru: I don't know, could you explain it?05:30
mameback in two minutes05:30
ugoJDahl: actually thats what i just did05:30
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tritiumCrisalita, #ubuntu-es05:30
aruhmm05:30
D1!mp305:30
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ugoJDahl: i ran locate to find the file....05:30
JDahlugo, and no errors loading the module or starting afds as root? then you're all done, I think.05:30
heatxsinktritium, doh05:31
tritiumnashife, you okay there?05:31
ugoJDahl: i didnt see it05:31
tritiumheatxsink, what's up?05:31
ugoJDahl: however i did an insmod....that worked05:31
nashifetritium, I don't know. am I?05:31
heatxsinktritium, still didn't work05:31
heatxsinkdoh05:31
heatxsinkoh well05:31
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tritiumnashife, just making sure ;)05:31
ugoJDahl: i noticed somethings in var messages about missing symbols05:31
seth_knashife: did you get azureus from their website?05:31
bddebianHeya nalioth05:31
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mameback05:31
nashifeseth_k, i got it from synaptic.05:31
nashifei thin05:32
nashifek05:32
mamedoesnt work05:32
JDahlugo, actually starting afsd is not a good before you've created the cache and made the /afs mount point... AFS is one of the annoying kernel modules where nothing but a reboot will help if you screw up05:32
bddebianmame: Any luck?05:32
bddebianDamnit05:32
seth_kok, nashife. You're using backports?05:32
JDahlugo, s/a good/a good ieda05:32
JDahljeez... my keyboard is broken05:32
ugoJDahl: ok...05:32
Crisalitathanks tritium05:32
nashifeseth_k, um... I think so? you mean in my repositories, right?05:32
bddebianmame: Do an "lsmod" and see if you have tsdev, evdev, mouse, and psmouse modules loaded05:33
tritiumCrisalita, no problem.05:33
dapimp53_kevin: I still get this Makefile.inc:101: *** KERNELPATH: /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386 does not exist.  Stop.05:33
JDahlugo, but insmod complained about missing symbols?05:33
the_walrusDo I have the option of installing Grub at install time with Ubuntu?05:33
bddebianHoary > Warty right?  I dunno why I can't keep that straight05:33
ugoJDahl: ok...however...just tell me the best place to stick this module in lib/modules and i'll take it from there05:33
mamebddebian, ok05:33
tritiumthe_walrus, it's the default boot loader05:33
ugoJDahl: no insmod worked cleanly...05:33
nashifeseth_k, tritium, should I remove azereus and reinstall it?05:33
the_walrussweet, I just killed my slack install trying to get grub working05:33
seth_kthat's right, nashife. You might try removing it and installing directly from azureus' site05:33
kevindapimp3: I had the same problem, did you download the linux-headersfor your kernel?05:34
nashifeseth_k, alright i'll try it05:34
ugoJDahl: arla had issues at that point...i did get a compile with it05:34
seth_knashife: the URL is http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download05:34
dapimp53_yea.05:34
seth_knashife: ping me if you need help with this manual install05:34
mamebddebian, there is no tsdev05:34
tritiumnashife, I haven't been following your conversation, sorry.05:34
dapimp53_should I remove them and reinstall them05:34
ugoJDahl: however....when i took a look at /var/log/messages05:34
misfit_toythe_walrus, slack? why are you in ubuntu?05:34
bddebianmame: Try to modprobe it05:34
ugoJDahl: in noticed some symbol complaints...05:34
kevintry again cos I did it and upon a retry it did it05:34
mamebddebian, just did it05:34
mameand it loaded it05:34
nashifetritium, ok np.  you were just the other person who was sometimes helping me so... kept your name in.05:34
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the_walrusmisfit_toy, well, I killed slack, booted into Ubuntu live, and about to install it05:34
mamerestart X ?05:34
the_walrusJust wanted to make sure it had Grub first05:34
misfit_toythe_walrus, good idea05:35
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JDahlugo, copy libafs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/fs/afs.o and use modconf I guess... you can also steal the init scripts from Debian's ancient AFS version - they are pretty good05:35
bddebianmame: Try it.  You may also need to check your X config to make sure your mouse is using psaux05:35
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benplautwhat's the name of that handy little util to change your cursor theme?05:36
dravinegcursor?05:36
ugoJDahl: nah forget the symbol stuff...i think those were from alna...i just checked the times05:36
root_limewire ubuntu05:36
ugoJDahl: ok...thats a really awesome wrap....05:36
benplautdravine: thanks :)05:37
ugoJDahl: ill work out the rest of the stuff from here....05:37
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tritiumbenplaut, gcursor?05:37
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benplautyup05:37
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seth_knashife: once you download the .tar.bz2 file, stick it in your home. Then, in a terminal, "tar -xvjf blahblahblah.tar.bz2"05:37
dravinesure thing05:37
JDahlugo, later you need to look at /etc/openafs... I dont what make install gave you? but you're almost done, I think... create the cache, and make the /afs directory05:37
ugoJDahl: where are you....from JDahl....05:37
mamebddebian, back05:37
tritiumah, dravine had the answer :)05:37
nickrudroot_, ubuntu gtk-gnutella in universe05:37
mamebut nothing mpre :(05:37
nashifeseth_k, thanks05:37
seth_knashife: then cd to the azureus directory and ./azureus to run it05:37
mames/mpre/more05:37
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JDahlugo, from a place called LA05:37
seth_ki'm sorry this is becoming such a pain for you, nashife. But we'll get it sorted05:38
ugoJDahl: right im in Pittsburgh....i go to CMU....05:38
nashifeseth_k, the sad part is that I did this before in warty... but it was so long ago i don't remember...05:38
JDahlugo, oh... they drafted large parts of AFS, right?05:39
ugoJDahl: whoops...make install doesn't seem to be installing this stuff to the right place...05:39
nashifeseth_k, i got an error when i entered ./azureus05:39
dravinehow do I tell postgres to not use ident?05:39
seth_ksame error?05:39
ugoJDahl: yeah...thats where the background knowledge bout how it works comes from05:39
nashifenever got an error before.05:39
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seth_k(this time, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste it there.)05:39
seth_kunless it's < 4 lines or so05:40
seth_kthen just paste here05:40
ugoJDahl: i had a distd systems class last sem...we covered afs...unfort the coverage was a little to brief for my liking....05:40
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nashifeseth_k, oh i get pastebin now. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31479705:41
JDahlugo, you should have alot of things installed in /usr/local/xxx by now. You dont?05:41
nashifejust says i need to upgrade java i think...05:41
seth_kyeah... ugh, odd05:41
kevindapimp3: did that work?05:42
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seth_ktritium, look at nashife's pastebin. I've never had such issues with azureus05:42
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ugoJDahl: nope...for some reason not at all....05:42
bddebianmame: Sorry man, you might be over my head on this one. :-(05:42
dapimp53kevin: I got madwifi to install. I am just rebooting now to finish everything05:42
JDahlugo, and you use -prefix with configure?05:42
kevinokay, awsome05:42
dapimp53so if I get this to work I dont need all that ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant stuff?05:42
tritiumseth_k, I'll take a look, but I'm not familiar with azureus05:42
nashifeseth_k, is there a way to whipe all that I've done and start from scratch? like, kill all java and azureus?  uninstall? synaptic actually doesn't list azureus so I was wrong about getting it there, so i can't remove it there.05:42
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kevinthat's right05:43
dapimp53sweet05:43
dapimp53I hope this works05:43
kevinall you will need is all that is listed05:43
seth_knashife: oooh05:43
seth_knashife: then let's grab it that way05:43
dapimp53you going to be around for a bit just in case I need some more help with this05:43
ugoJDahl: yup to /usr/local05:43
mamebddebian, ok thanks anyway ....05:43
nashifeoh maybe i spelled it wrong. i was spelling it wrong before05:43
kevinyes05:44
seth_knashife: first, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and look for the backports (especially hoary-extras universe)05:44
tritiumnashife, which java did you install?  Did you build it with java-package?05:44
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nashifeseth_k, nevermind. it's listed. i was spelling it wrong.05:44
JDahlugo, and you used sudo with make install? strange...05:44
jadugarHas anyone here been able to upgrade tomboy to 0.2.3 in hoary?05:45
nashifetritium, i followed the instructions in the link you sent... a page linked to from there about building new versions...05:45
ugoJDahl: actually im using sudo -s05:45
seth_knashife: okay. what version is it? (right click > properties)05:45
tritiumnashife, and you used a command similar to "fakeroot make-jpkg ..." ?05:45
ugoJDahl: funny huh?05:45
nashifetritium, yes, i used fakeroot... followed those instructions and it seemed to work.05:46
nashifeseth_k, right-click on what?05:46
seth_knever mind, I peeked at the version in backports myself05:46
jamie_hey guys, I just installed ubuntu and I need to know what is the root password?05:47
dapimp53kevin: does it matter that I use a WPA Key05:47
bddebian!root05:47
nashifeshould I remove azureus and go from a downloaded file again?05:47
ubotumethinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:47
nickrudheh, I'm slow :)05:47
kevindapimp3: yes, got into your system and add05:47
jamie_I will try that05:47
dapimp53kevin: what do you mean05:47
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nickrudbddebian, I hope that piece of fruit was tasty :)05:48
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seth_knashife: yeah, it looks like Azureus won't work except with the synaptic version. My best guess is that some other version of Java on your system is what Azureus sees, and not the new 1.5 we just installed05:48
bddebiannickrud: ??05:48
seth_knashife: do you have the sun-whateverit'scalled installed from synaptic? The old version?05:48
nickrudbddebian, I pick a lot of low hanging fruit around here05:48
kevindapimp3 I need someone using the regular desktop, to tell you how to get there05:48
nashifeseth_k, can i remove the wrong version of java? or create simlinks in the place that azureus would look for the right version of java?05:48
JDahlugo, yeah... that's odd. Something you could do while you think about that issue is to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs (unfortunately I dont remember the details). I seem to vaguely recall that there was some issues with aklog once you get the other issues solved05:49
bddebiannickrud: Heh, well it seems to be all I can get.. :-)05:49
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tritiumnashife, what is the result of "java -version"?05:49
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nickrudbddebian, it lets the 'ones who know' focus on the good stuff05:49
KuriosAnyone Reccommend an RSS client for Ubuntu?05:49
dapimp53kevin: I got the madwifi to install but I still dont have internet connection05:49
nashifetritium, want the output here?it's 8 lines05:49
nickrudKurios, I use liferea05:49
JDahlugo, something about having to patch and rebuild aklog for authentication (if you use kerberos)05:50
seth_knashife: pastebin ;)05:50
nashifeor just certain info from it?05:50
tritiumnashife, no, pastebin or #flood05:50
kevindapimp3: give me 5 mins will boot into gnome05:50
bddebiannickrud: Nah, let's make up answers. :-)05:50
KuriosAll in favor of Liferea, say "I"05:50
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nickrudKurios, or, straw, or, ...05:50
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nashifetritium, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/31479805:51
heatxsinkKurios, liferea05:51
dapimp53ok05:51
nickrudbddebian, I've done that enough without trying ;P05:51
bddebianhehe, amen :-)05:51
heatxsinkI05:51
seth_knashife: remove "sun-j2" in synaptic, if you have it (props tritium ;) )05:51
ugoJDahl: i do use kerberos....life depends on it05:51
tritiumseth_k, :)05:51
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nashifeseth_k, ok05:51
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JDahlugo, I'll be semiafk working, but will be around for another couple of hours, if you get that far05:51
KuriosAny fans of the Linux Box podcast?05:51
ugoJDahl: i have the heimdal libraries installed05:52
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KuriosI enjoy but would like something a little less dry05:52
DAC1138Kurios, yeah, i tried it05:52
ugoJDahl: right....05:52
DAC1138Kurios, too...boring05:52
Kuriosor maybe less "read off a sheet of paper-ish"05:52
nashifeseth_k, i removed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.505:52
delltonyhi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful05:53
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delltonyhi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful05:53
seth_khm, that was it nashife?05:53
JDahlugo, I dont think you want heimdal - dont you just want krb5?05:53
tritiumdelltony, please don't do that05:53
JDahlugo, I cant remember, actually...05:53
delltonyi didn't mean to05:53
tritiumok05:53
delltonyit didn't show the first time sorry05:53
tritiumno problem05:53
nashifeseth_k, so my next step is to reinstall java from the bin file like before?05:54
nashifethe azureus installer still gives me the 'you need to upgrade..." error05:54
seth_knashife: not quite05:54
seth_knashife: first remove package "sablevm" in synaptic (THAT's the solution!)05:54
seth_knashife: then reinstall java from the DEB file, not the bin file05:54
bob2delltony: what have you changed since it last worked?05:54
seth_knashife: and you're gold!05:54
tritiumI think you're right, seth_k05:55
delltonywell, i have just updated the kernal i was running initially i386 kernal i changed it to 686 kernal05:55
delltonythen i changed it to smp kernal cause of HT05:55
seth_knashife: just make sure you install from the deb you created with "fakeroot make-jpkg..." and not the bin you downloaded from Sun05:55
bob2delltony: does booting the old one "fix" it?05:55
delltonythats the only major thing i can think of05:55
nashifeseth_k, ok i'm at that step now05:56
seth_ktritium: I sure hope I am, b/c otherwise I'm gonna go hide :D05:56
delltonythat i haven't tried but i should do that05:56
delltonyis there a way to cat grub s i can see if i still have the old boot image?05:56
tritiumdelltony, if you didn't remove it, it's still there05:56
delltonyyeah i didn't remove it just go back to the first one i assume or last on the list05:57
delltonyill try that cause like right now its runninga t 70C and i have only been using it for about 10 mins05:57
tritiumdelltony, since you asked, the file is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst05:57
delltonythanks05:57
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tritiumdelltony, you can comment out the "hiddenmenu" line if you want to see the kernel images you have to choose from05:58
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kutucapehi all05:58
delltonyyeah ill try the i386 kernal and see05:58
bddebianHello kutucape05:58
delltonycause like i say it use to run fast and all but its heating up and scaling down05:58
chizanghow do i install w32codecs in hoary? it seems like it's a broken package when i do an apt-get install05:58
kutucapebddebian, are you using breezy?05:59
chizangPackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:59
chizangThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:59
chizangis only available from another source05:59
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bddebianchizang: I blieve you have to get it from backports05:59
ugoJDahl: well hieimdal is a similar implementation of kerberos05:59
tankichizang, isn't that just a zip of dll's that you put in /usr/lib/win32?05:59
bddebiankutucape: As a matter of fact yes05:59
bob2chizang: that just means the package doesn't exist05:59
seth_kchizang: it's in hoary-extras/restricted, in backports05:59
kutucapebddebian, me too but my X is broken05:59
bob2chizang: easier to get the .zip file and untar it to /usr/lib/win32/ manually05:59
ugoJDahl: ill get back to you....i think i need to tweak the config settings05:59
kutucapei don't know how to fix it05:59
chizangbob2, where can i get the .zip from?05:59
bddebiankutucape: X has been up and down recently05:59
bob2chizang: mplayer.hu06:00
nickrudlol, is the font thing still left broken?06:00
chizangah, ok06:00
seth_kbob2: easiest to go to a backports mirror and download a deb, then dpkg -i it for easy uninstallation later06:00
ugoJDahl: on yeah im working with code checked out from cvs....06:00
tankibob2, we need some action in #ubuntu-offtopic06:00
kutucapeyeah, i know and i get the worse one :D06:00
bddebiankutucape: Supposedly a fix was uploaded today06:00
nashifeseth_k, it seems to be working!  thank you for sticking with me06:00
tankii'm getting dangerously bored my friend06:00
seth_knashife: wooooo!06:00
tritiumnashife, yay!06:00
bob2seth_k: ah, that too06:00
kutucapebddebian, oh really?06:00
bddebiannashife: Woohoo.. :-)06:00
bddebiankutucape: That's what they say in #ubuntu-devel06:00
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bob2tanki: hm?06:01
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kutucapeok, maybe apt-get update will save mine ;)06:01
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nashifei wish I could understand more about what I did... :) i'm glad it's working06:01
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seth_knashife: sablevm was the culprit. It was keeping Sun's 1.5 Java from working06:01
kutucapeis that right, bddebian ?06:01
tankis/actin/activity chatter misc links of booties, whatever floats your boat06:01
KSmurfanyone know why I was banned?06:01
JDahlugo, right.. I think, just stick with kerberos if you can06:01
seth_knashife: so basically in the end, we uninstalled sablevm, and installed Sun's Java06:01
nashifeseth_k, what was sablevm anyway?06:01
DAC1138anyone here using an external usb hard drive?06:01
sizzami have mounted some iso's, but im not sure which are still mounted.   is there a command that shows me everything thats currently mounted?06:01
tritiumKSmurf, when?06:01
weissizzam, type mount06:01
seth_knashife: sablevm is a free java, reverse-engineered.06:01
nickrudsizzam, mount06:01
bddebiankutucape: From /topic in #ubuntu-devel : | yes, X is broken.  a fix has already been uploaded.06:01
kutucapeDAC1138, yes I do, i used to use it06:01
weisit'll list mounted volumes06:01
sizzameasy enough, thanks06:01
nashifeahh...  ok. it makes sense.06:02
DAC1138kutucape, did you have any problems with it?06:02
KSmurfI came back from supper and noticed I had been booted06:02
seth_knashife: Java has a very restrictive license, so it can't be included in ubuntu. hence sablevm06:02
kutucapebddebian, oh great.. apt-getting...06:02
KSmurfwas It because I was on tor?06:02
DAC1138kutucape, mine works upon bootup, then after a while it stops working and i can remount it06:02
seth_knashife: but sablevm doesn't work very well yet, and only emulates java 1.4. Azureus needs 1.506:02
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seth_kKSmurf: yes, the freenode network doesn't allow tor06:02
tritiumKSmurf, you're not banned, though06:02
bddebiannickrud: Nice06:02
DAC1138kutucape, it sometimes works in windows too. sounds like a flaky drive, but it works perfectly over on a mandrake 10 box06:02
kutucapeDAC1138, nope, it works smooth on my hoary06:02
KSmurfI changed my use name and disabled tor06:03
kutucapebut i can't write to it :(06:03
DAC1138huh. weird06:03
nickrudbddebian, had, have lost, will get back, I want to try breezy once it starts getting towards rc status06:03
KSmurfsorry06:03
kutucapejust read.. maybe it formattd with ntfs06:03
DAC1138im going to try building a new kernel, see if that does it06:03
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DAC1138mines fat3206:03
DAC1138even with ext3 it wasnt readable in ubuntu06:03
ugoJDahl: did you use exec-prefix06:03
DAC1138is there a way to scan a drive for bad sectors while installing ubuntu?06:04
ugoJDahl: i think that may have been it.....06:04
bob2tor is banned due to abuse this morning06:04
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kutucapeDAC1138, i think you have remount it with -oremount -t ext3? CMIIW06:04
tritiumbob2, what happened?06:04
kevin_dapimp3: go to computer, then to networking and doan add, and put in your wep key06:04
JDahlugo, ah no... that's probably it - I never installed it, just build it06:05
kutucapeDAC1138, you can try with livecd first06:05
bob2tritium: someone was banned for ascii crapflooding, so they joined using tor and started making GNAA comments06:05
kutucapefrom livecd you can check your harrdrive06:05
dapimp53kevin_: its not a WEP key its a WPA key06:05
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tritiumbob2, in #ubuntu specifically?06:05
DAC1138kutucape, okay, but ubuntu is already installed, im running it now, cant i just scan it here?06:05
kevin_still go into there and do it06:05
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bob2tritium: yes06:05
kutucapenope, you can't06:06
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DAC1138kutucape, i want to scan the usb drive, not this hard drive06:06
dapimp53and I just enter my paraphrase?06:06
DAC1138i still need the live cd?06:06
kutucapescan only works if read only mode06:06
DAC1138ah, okay06:06
kutucapeyes, that's the safe way06:06
kevin_I guess dude, mine worked right off06:06
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ugoJDahl: i should buy you a beer...06:06
kevin_and you have done a reboot?06:06
DAC1138so i do "mount /dev/sdc1 /media/drivename -oremount -t vfat" ?06:06
dapimp53yes06:06
Ex-CyberDAC1138: for drive testing you're probably better off using a utility from the manufacturer06:06
DAC1138its got fat32 currently06:07
dapimp53I just finished one06:07
kutucapeDAC1138, oh, you can do this..06:07
dapimp53it tells me my ath0 is down now06:07
kutucapewhat type of filesystem do you have on usb harddisk?06:07
DAC1138Ex-Cyber, i cant even find the manufacturer. its a firestorm case with a toshiba drive06:07
kevin_ok open a term and see what dmesg says06:07
JDahlugo, already covered there... besides I am home alone, so not much better to do06:07
bob2kutucape: people generally use fat32, so other OSs can read it06:07
DAC1138kutucape, its fat32 currently06:07
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DAC1138yeah, i need fat32, but i tried ext3 to see if it would work with ubuntu (which is messing it up)06:08
kutucapehmm, it's better you check with WIndows OS too, CMIIW06:08
dapimp53kevin_: what are you looking for specifically06:08
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DAC1138it needs to be able to be read on the macs at school and on my windows box here and linux laptop06:08
Velcanen i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?06:08
DAC1138kutucape, windows wouldnt work06:08
kutucapebecause fat32 is windows file system06:08
kutucapehmm, strange...06:08
mitch528can someone help me install winex?06:08
kevin_or even do an iwlist scan to see if it sees your wireless router06:08
DAC1138kutucape, windows wont detect the drive sometimes, and when it does, it says "scandisk could not complete the scan"06:08
bob2weis: when did you order them?06:09
ugoJDahl: damm! there was something you mentioned about configure and symlinks right?06:09
weis5 weeks ago06:09
kutucapewell, i guess it become flaky06:09
weisbut they shipped on the 28th06:09
Velcanmitch528:  www.transgaming.com cedega is great06:09
ugoJDahl: i think i just hit that now....06:09
kutucapemine is burn :(06:09
weisjust waiting for them to come in the mail06:09
tritiumweis, did you check shipit?  did they already ship?06:09
DAC1138kutucape, but it works perfectly in mandrake 1006:09
kutucapei think usb harddisk is vunerable...06:09
DAC1138kutucape, its mounted right now06:09
weisthey did ship, yes06:09
bddebianUSB sucks06:09
DAC1138bddebian, thanks for your input, some people dont have a choise to use usb06:10
bddebianDon't have a choice?06:10
bddebianThere's always a choice :-)06:10
dapimp53kevin_: yes it does06:10
ugoJDahl: what was the file again?06:10
DAC1138bddebian, alright, i know there are firewire pci cards, but belive me, I HAVE NO CHOICE!!!06:10
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kevin_ok, then go into computer, networking and set it up06:10
JDahlugo, I dont you would be able to run ./configure-afslib without fixing it - src/afslib/Makefile.in is missing, but you can symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX06:10
dapimp53I tried but it still doesnt work06:11
britt_radiofreedoes apt-get install realplayer break for everyone and is there a place to get newer libc without breaking all?06:11
DAC1138bddebian, so lets not get into a firewire/usb debate06:11
jamie_I still don't have the correct root password, what else can I try?06:11
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dapimp53do you use WPA on your wireless?06:11
britt_radiofreei really need to watch a few real videos06:11
bddebianDAC1138: And that statement wasn't meant to offend, just that USB should be restricted to keyboards and mice IMHO. :-)06:11
desrtDAC1138; no debate.  usb sucks.06:11
desrtDAC1138; usb 2 is practically useless06:11
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kevin_no, I don't at this time06:11
bddebianjamie_: There is no root password.  Use the password that you gave when you installed if using sudo and such06:11
ugoJDahl: right thats exactly what i was looking for06:11
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dapimp53See I think that is my problem06:11
DAC1138yeah, its only goot for thumb drives, mice, keyboards, bluttooth adapters, usb ethernet adapters, yeah, sounds useless06:12
DAC1138good*06:12
dapimp53I dont know how to configure it with the WPA key06:12
kevin_I am looking06:12
desrti'd be happy if i could get a firewire thumb drive06:12
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bddebianUSB ethernet sucks too06:12
dapimp53I tried the WEP key but it causes some problems on the other computers on the network06:12
bddebiandesrt: Amen06:12
DAC1138bddebian, man, you're not happy with anything06:12
desrtDAC1138; he's happy with firewire :)06:12
bddebianDAC1138: I'm very happy with the 10 machines I have running here, none of them using USB devices :-)06:12
desrtanyone who has used a significant amount of firewire gear is bound to hate usb06:12
desrtit's just the way it goes :)06:12
jamie_I don't think it ask me for the root password, it just went into installing the users.06:12
DAC1138kutucape, so anyway, its running on mandrake.ive been trying to set that up as a way to access my drive through the network06:13
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desrtbddebian; what do you use for keyboards?06:13
desrtadb? :P06:13
tritiumjamie_, there is no root password.06:13
bddebianjamie_: Did you read that link?  We don't use root06:13
bddebiandesrt: PS/2 what else? ;-P06:13
desrtdie. :P06:13
DAC1138kutucape, but ubuntu wont access any windows computers on the network or the mandrake box. its visible, but not browsable06:13
desrtps/2 is definitely worse than usb :)06:13
bddebianHeh06:13
IIIEarsbddebian - 10 machines. at home? (only four here. - lol)06:13
kevin_dapimp3: try googling for the answer, it is probably something simple06:13
desrtif you could IPs, i have 7 machines here.. but counting IPs can be deceptive06:14
IIIEars<<-- my electric bill is amazing. - rofl06:14
desrt*count06:14
Velcanen i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?06:14
bddebianIIIEars: Tell me about it.  I finally shut down the Proliant 1500 I was running cause it wasa pig06:14
i3dmasterjust upgraded to breezy, everything is ok but the right click menu, I did not see "open terminal" on there anymore, anyone knows how to add it back?06:14
desrtso guys06:14
desrtcan i get any programs for ubuntu to scam the power company?06:15
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nickrudheh06:15
ugoJDahl: that should be libafs...06:15
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sizzamyea, check out gnuLectric06:15
desrtsizzam; can't find it.  is it in multiverse or something?06:15
nickrud$411 last month, I could use some help06:15
dapimp53kevin_: I found this to add pre-up wpa_supplicant -B -i ath0 -d <your_supported_wlan_card_type>06:15
sizzamhmm, try apt-get update  ;-)06:15
dapimp53what is the supported wlan card type06:15
IIIEarsbddebian - just curious do you use disk image backups? if so what app do you like best?06:16
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kevin_ok, I am looking at google now06:16
desrtdapimp53; if you're using atheros, it's madwifi06:16
bddebianIIIEars: No sorry.  I have varying OSs.  4 Windows, 3 Hurd, 1 Debian GNU/Linux and 1 Ubuntu06:16
dapimp53so I just put madwifi there?06:17
desrt"-dmadwifi"06:17
ksmurfI got my wifes' wireless card up but I notice It seems to operate in bursts.  It is a DWL-G520.   Any suggestions.  Someone mentioned the madwifi driver.06:17
desrtya06:17
desrtksmurf; i have the same card.06:17
desrtksmurf; i find that keeping ping going in the background helps a lot06:17
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desrtkeeps the interface awake or something :)06:17
kevin_ty desrt06:18
zenlunaticsounds like a nasty hack06:18
desrtkevin_; do you find that it randomly freezes up your laptop and you need to pull/reinsert the card? :)06:18
desrti'd love a solution to that particular issue :)06:18
IIIEarshehe - yep, same here mixed bunch of OS'es - really looking for a way to distribute images for bare metal restore.06:19
elmagozizouIm just wondering..in linux we dont have to defrag?06:19
desrtelmagozizou; the ext2 file system does a good job of keeping itself defragmented06:19
kevin_nope06:19
desrtelmagozizou; if you're really concerned then every 2 or 3 years tar up the filesystem, erase all the files, then reextract it :)06:19
kevin_desrt: no problems with it06:19
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desrtO_o06:20
kevin_the only freeze up is when I open too many windows lol06:20
elmagozizou#5 desrt , how do i do that?06:20
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desrtelmagozizou; tar czvf /path/to/file.tar.gz *06:21
desrtto create file.tar.gz out of the contents of the current dir06:21
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ksmurfdesrt do u ping the wap evry 5 secs with a scipt?06:21
desrtactually, use . instead of * ... then you'll get hidden too06:21
dapimp53kevin_:  I got it to  work!!! It was a combination of WPAsup and the madwifi06:21
dapimp53thanks man06:21
desrtksmurf; nah.  just run ping in a term :)06:21
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Vantage__anyone here successfully used bootcd and ubuntu hoary?06:21
dapimp53does anyone how to change the boot order of Grub06:21
elmagozizou#5 desrt , no I mean the file system...06:21
desrtdapimp53; edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:21
kevin_kool dapimp3 awsome dude!!06:21
ksmurfis there a way to timeit?06:22
tankihowdy kevin06:22
desrtelmagozizou; oh.  mke2fs06:22
desrtelmagozizou; use with extreme care :)06:22
tankiand mr smurf06:22
kevin_hey tanki06:22
ksmurfTanki06:22
kevin_<--- brb needs a walking break06:22
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elmagozizou#5 desrt , but that no for making ex2 floppies?06:23
desrtelmagozizou; also, you probably want -j if you're creating new filesystems... makes them ext306:23
tankiyou both should come to #ubuntu-offtopic, take your shoes off, order a drink, chill06:23
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desrtelmagozizou; it's for making all filesystems06:23
desrtelmagozizou; i really don't recommend that you do this...06:23
desrtelmagozizou; fragmentation is seriously not a problem06:23
elmagozizouok.06:23
dapimp53desrt: how do I make my windows the defualt06:23
desrtdapimp53; just move it up in the order06:23
IIIEars!grub06:24
elmagozizou#5 desrt , maybe you now...where are all the packages that i donload throu synaptic or apt-get06:24
desrtdapimp53; or modify the "default" line06:24
IIIEars!dualboot06:24
desrtelmagozizou; all over the place06:24
Vantage__dapimp53: set the default to the number it is in the order (starting from 0)06:24
nickrudelmagozizou, /var/cache/apt/archives06:24
IIIEarsUbotu is taking some time off i guess06:24
desrtelmagozizou; the package files are sometimes cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/06:24
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Computer__Guruthis is gonna seem like a weird question06:24
desrtelmagozizou; but in general, if you want to find out where the files of a specific package are installed, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list06:24
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elmagozizou#5 desrt , No but I mean if y want to burn then on a CD to take them to another computer that dont have internet conection06:25
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chris_is enabling root an easy thing to explain here? I would like to enable that account and use it.06:25
desrtelmagozizou; /var/cache/apt/archives then06:25
Computer__Gurubut where owuld i find the .config file that they used when they made the ubuntu syste,? or is it vanilla (all dfaults)?06:25
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto06:25
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm "", or "" !grub""06:25
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?06:25
desrtelmagozizou; make sure you get all the dependencies06:25
desrtubotu, botsnack06:25
ubotuthanks desrt :)06:25
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nickrudchris_, sudo passwd root, enter your user password (if it asks), then enter the new root password06:25
kevin_<--- is back06:25
seth_kchris_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:25
IIIEarsWelcome back ubotu :)06:25
IIIEars!grub06:26
desrtubotu, status06:26
ubotuwell, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto06:26
chris_thenks!06:26
sizzamwhat's everyone's favorite ftp client?06:26
desrthmm.  i love infobots :)06:26
Computer__Gurugftp06:26
nickrudnautilus06:26
nickrudfor ftp06:26
kevin_gftp here06:26
IIIEarsinfobots are nice06:26
bddebianGnight folks.  Enjoy06:26
sizzami can't get used to  gftp06:26
cafuego!forums 3839806:26
Computer__Guruwhere would i get the kernel config file for the shipped-with-hoary kernel?06:26
ubotuForums: Thread 38398 is: Ubuntu Forums - Dual Boot with windows: where to put the boot loader?06:26
sizzamim used to filezilla on windows06:26
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sizzamalthough filezilla is coming to linux06:27
drcodedd2hi all06:27
kevin_yes it is soon06:27
nickrudheh, now that is a very obscure ubotu reference :)06:27
the_walrusI just installed, and its booted into X, apparently I only have 9MB mem free, out of 1gig06:27
drcodedd2any one mybe know about fax/voice answer machine client server for linux - ubuntu06:27
cafuegothe_walrus: Yes, that's fine.06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , sorry but they are not in there06:27
drcodedd2I Want to use my linux server as answer machine to fax/voice06:27
desrtelmagozizou; they get cleaned up after a while06:27
Computer__Gurui have a simple question about kernel config and no answers06:27
desrtelmagozizou; it's just a cache06:27
the_walruscafuego, 9MB free, out of 1gig? That doesn't really seem fine06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , mmmm...06:27
drcodedd2and my windows to get those fax/voice mail?06:27
elmagozizou#5 desrt , thnks06:28
nickrudthe_walrus, most of that is cache or such, linux tries to use all your mem well06:28
desrtelmagozizou; what's with the #5 business?06:28
cafuegothe_walrus: linux is not as stupid as Windows. it's using your "free" ram as disk cache. When an application needs it, it will be freed.06:28
IIIEarsdrcodded2 - that sounds like a good idea. - voice message boxes are very handy06:28
the_walruscafuego, ok, that makes more sense, just seems unusual, never had a linux box doing this before06:28
flodinewhat do i need to load for a tar file to work06:28
drcodedd2IIIEars, is there somthing for linux /06:28
desrtthe_walrus; yes you have :)06:28
drcodedd2that I Can use?06:28
elmagozizou#5 desrt , I am trying to do what ure doing with me...I mean that i see your message in red06:28
desrtelmagozizou; oh.  that's just notification.06:29
Computer__Guruwhere do i find the shipped-with-hoary kernel config file?06:29
elmagozizouI guest is not that way06:29
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desrtelmagozizou; it happens because i put your nick at the beginning of the message06:29
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the_walrusdesrt, I've never had a linux box showing this much mem in use, before I installed, my system was showing about 270MB used06:29
nickrudComputer__Guru, /boot/config-your-kernel-version06:29
tritiumComputer__Guru, /boot06:29
IIIEarsdrcodded2 - there must be be sounds like a common request06:29
Computer__Guruty06:29
Computer__Guruthat's all i wanted to know, heh06:29
elmagozizoudesrt, like this?06:29
desrtthe_walrus; well.... it's definitely a good thing :)06:29
cafuegothe_walrus: Was that via 'free' or via other utils?06:29
the_walrusCool :)06:29
desrtelmagozizou; yes.  now you show up in yellow for me06:29
the_walrusvia /proc/meminfo06:30
IIIEarsfreshmeat.org or sourceforge.org is where to look06:30
the_walrussame as I'm lookingat now06:30
desrtthe_walrus; use 'free'06:30
drcodedd2thanx06:30
ubuntu_philcan someone help me out with cd burning. cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus is not working and i don't know what else to do (gnomebaker, graveman do not work)06:30
elmagozizoudesrt; and here?06:30
the_walrus             total       used       free06:30
the_walrusMem:        906660     901504       515606:30
desrtelmagozizou; yup06:30
the_walrusahh, the next line makes sens06:30
the_walruse06:30
elmagozizoured?06:30
cafuegothe_walrus: Then my guess is that you previously had buggy vm behaviour.06:30
desrtthe_walrus; ya.  it's nice.06:30
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elmagozizoudesrt; red?06:30
desrtelmagozizou; yellow06:30
the_walrusI probably screwed up my kernel compile somehow06:30
desrtelmagozizou; it's something that my client does.  you have no control over it06:30
elmagozizouahh ok...06:31
nickrudubuntu_phil, I've given up: I use dd to get a disk if I want to copy it, and use nautilus-cd-burner for writing data. I don't wirte music.06:31
sizzami have two hard drives.   the second gets mounted as /home.  i think my primary drive is going to crash soon. whats the best way to get all that data onto the /home drive and use it as the sole hd?06:31
desrtelmagozizou; and likewise, i have no control over what colour your client makes me show up as06:31
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elmagozizoudesrt; ahh ok06:31
firestormHi. I've installed CUPS in Ubuntu but when I try adding a printer the username/password combo I try doesn't work. I've already typed lppasswd -a root  .. any hints?06:31
cafuegothe_walrus: Yes, you forgot to enable HIGHMEM 4GB06:31
desrtfirestorm; the web interface is disabled06:31
elmagozizoudesrt; thanks for the atention06:31
nickrudfirestorm, try using system-administration-printing06:31
desrtfirestorm; you're supposed to use the gnome printer utilities06:31
cafuegothe_walrus: looks like your kerel didn't find all ram (or do you have integrated vga?)06:31
nickrudfirestorm, top menu bar06:32
the_walruscafuego, I always wondered what that did06:32
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desrtfirestorm; if you want the web interface back you have to modify the cups config file06:32
firestormnickrud: erm using KDE now....is there a Gnome command from a shell I can type?06:32
the_walruscafuego, I dont have integrated mem, I should have a gig of mem there :/06:32
cafuegothe_walrus: Without that option you can only access about 986 or so MB ram.06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; hey are u there?06:32
firestormdesrt: I can access http://localhost:631 but just cannot add printers...asks for a username/password which denies me06:32
cafuegothe_walrus: Then yeah, you need to set HIGHMEM to 4, recompile and reboot.06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; I have an problem with mplayer06:32
the_walruscrap06:32
elmagozizoudesrt; maybe you can help me...06:32
desrtfirestorm; gnome-cups-manager06:33
cafuegothe_walrus: Precompiled ubuntu kernels already have that enabled.06:33
the_walruscafuego, then why do I only have 900MB of ram or so it tells me?06:33
desrtthe_walrus; 900 exactly?06:33
desrtthe_walrus; or 890?06:33
nickrudfirestorm, gnome-cups-manager06:33
cafuegothe_walrus: You on the -386 installer kernel still?06:33
the_walruscafuego, I just installed, so I'm not sure06:34
the_walrusI haven't had a chance to play yet06:34
desrtcafuego; the -386 kernels installed by default don't support himem systems (ie: any more than 890 megs of ram)06:34
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cafuegothe_walrus: Then yes. Install a kernel for your cpu and you'll be fine.06:34
desrt*er06:34
desrtthe_walrus rather06:34
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the_walruscheers guys06:34
desrtcha06:34
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desrtelmagozizou; i don't really use mplayer... but ask your question... maybe someone else knows06:35
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billytwowillywhat's the mplayer question?06:35
cafuegothe_walrus: 'apt-cache search linux-image' should give you  alist of kernels to pick from.06:35
kevin_well later folks it is time for me to go and have a shower, then head off to bed. Cheers and have a great night!!06:35
firestormnickrud, desrt: excelelnt, been able to add a printer, print a test page with gnome-cups-manager....now, how can I set it up so that I could do the same with CUPS web interface?06:35
the_walruscafuego, thanks, I was just googling that06:36
desrtkevin_; cha.06:36
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cafuegothe_walrus: -686 for p2,p3,p4. k7 for athlon.06:36
desrtthe_walrus; don't install the -image package06:36
nickrudfirestorm, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, then go to localhost:63106:36
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, I have a problem with mplayer, I think with the nvidia configuration06:36
desrtinstall linux-686 or linux-k7 or whatever... it pulls in the correct image package, plus the extra modules you need06:36
the_walrusexcellent06:36
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billytwowillyelmagozizou, the nvidia configuration? just use -vo xv06:37
nickrudfirestorm, after you're done, sudo deluser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart , for security06:37
the_walrus686-smp for p4 with HT?06:37
billytwowillyelmagozizou, if that doesn't work than your nvidia card isn't configured properly in x.06:37
desrtthe_walrus; HT is currently off for security reasons06:37
the_walrusoh, i remember reading that06:37
desrtyou can reenable it by modifying grub config06:38
Madpilothi all... is it possible to update Hoary's version of Screem with the stable version from the Screem website? Screem keeps freezing on me...06:38
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desrtjust add "ht=on" to the commandline06:38
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, My nvidia card is fine... I couldt run 3ddesktop until i install the nvidia module etc...06:38
firestormnickrud: ok, and what username/password do I use for the htaccess prompt at localhost:631/admin ?06:38
nickrudah06:39
the_walrusThanks desrt06:39
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, but now mplayer show me an error, and I can play anything06:39
tritiumfirestorm, that's disabled06:39
desrtit's only a problem if you don't trust the other users of your machine06:39
the_walrusi'm the only user06:39
billytwowillyelmagozizou, what error? pm it to me please.06:39
desrtdo you trust yourself? :)06:39
nickrudfirestorm, you need a root password to use a web admin tool06:39
elmagozizoubillytwowilly, let me put the error to you in private06:39
nickrudubotu, tell firestorm about rootsudo06:39
the_walrusnot really :) every reinstall is because I've broken something06:39
sproingiewow, take 2 on openoffice and it still manages to infuriate me06:39
desrtthe_walrus; take yourself out of the sudoers file, then :)06:40
desrtthe_walrus; alot harder to break stuff :)06:40
ugoJDahl: hey...whats that patch you were talking about for krb5...i think im going to need it06:40
the_walrusdesrt, where's the fun in that though ;)06:40
cafuegoNore to the point, you don't need a web admin tool.06:40
desrtthe_walrus; the fun is in trying to hax0r your way back in :)06:40
the_walrusheh, thats a good point06:41
firestormnickrud: I tried the root username/password but it didn't work06:41
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tritiumfirestorm, as I told you, it's disabled06:41
cafuegofirestorm: There is no root password.06:41
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cafuego!root password06:41
ubotuUbuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.06:41
adwaitaloha ppl06:41
nickrudheh06:41
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desrtoh!  awesome idea06:42
nickrudseveral things here: gnome-cups-manager is not as flexible as localhost:63106:42
JDahlugo, you dont need to worry about until everything else is setup... I think the you might need to build your own aklog for authentication to work, but you can setup everything else first and test that you can list directories etc.06:42
desrti should extend my passwordless sudo thing to work with ssh-agent06:42
desrtthat would rule06:42
sproingiehow do i convince openoffice to put 1+ in a table cell without it thinking i *really* wanted a right-justified number 1?06:42
nickrudtwo, web admin tools exist, and sudo does not work with them06:42
VacendakJust finished first Ubuntu install. Whats root password?06:42
desrt"1+" work?06:42
desrthahahah06:43
the_walrussproingie, its under format, set the cell type to text06:43
sproingiedesrt: i don't want it in quotes06:43
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desrt!root password06:43
ubotuUbuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.06:43
tritiumVacendak, there is none06:43
imaekDoes anyone know of a manga viewer for linux?06:43
desrtthat comes in handy :)06:43
sproingiedesrt: i want it to stop second-guessing me06:43
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VacendakCool. Thanks06:43
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desrtsproingie; just thinking maybe the quotes would make it stop second-guessing you :)06:43
eyda|monis there a seperate sources.list for amd64 bit ubuntu? if so where can I find what it is?06:43
desrteyda|mon; do you have amd64 installed?06:43
VacendakWorks perfect. Thanks Again06:43
eyda|mondesrt: nope, I just swapped mobo and cpu  though06:44
desrteyda|mon; fairly sure it's just the same file...06:44
ugoJDahl: well the issue right now is a compilation failure because some kerberos function calls are missing06:44
firestormnickrud, and others: thanks, didn't realise ubuntu was root-passwordless06:44
nickrudfirestorm, if you really want to use the localhost:631 from the web, then do sudo passwd root , and create a root password06:44
desrtmy sources.list contains no mention of powerpc06:44
eyda|mondesrt: so nothing optimized for 64bit?06:44
desrteyda|mon; it automatically detects your arch and installs accordingly06:44
ugochecking for krb5_princ_size... no06:44
ugochecking for krb5_principal_get_comp_string... no06:44
ugochecking for krb5_524_convert_creds... no06:44
ugochecking for krb524_convert_creds_kdc... no06:44
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sproingiedesrt: yes, but it puts it in quotes then06:44
eyda|mondesrt: cool06:44
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ugoapparently those are the culprints06:44
sproingiefuck it.  word works under wine06:45
desrteyda|mon; or, rather, apt just knows06:45
eyda|mondesrt: what does your uname -a say?06:45
chaps0063bob2: hey bob, you there?06:45
desrteyda|mon; which box?06:45
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bob2chaps0063: ?06:45
eyda|mondesrt: uname -m actually. on your ppc ?06:45
sproingiemaybe kword won't try to be too smart for me06:45
tritiumnickrud, does that work for you?06:45
ugoJDahl: i did a compile and noticed the errors were as a result...thing is i need kerberos because andrew afs works with it...06:45
firestormnickrud: If I've sudo passwd root then how can I later undo it to disable root login?06:46
desrteyda|mon; ppc for one, ppc64 for the other06:46
JDahlugo, hmm... that's not what I was thinking of. But you were able to build it before, right? just with a different prefix...06:46
chaps0063bob2: I've decided, I'm just going to format, the apache error was too weird, I was just getting started on this install anyways..06:46
Madpilotsproingie: lead your cell with a single quote -- ' -- and it'll treat it as a pure text string.06:46
ugoJDahl: yeah...it built alright...06:46
MadpilotI use it to keep OO from fscking with my date formats...06:46
bob2chaps0063: that seems like rather massive overkill06:46
eyda|mondesrt: apt might be using the info from uname -m ... or some other kernel info. Maybe all I need to do is up the kernel.06:46
nickrudtritium, yes, I actually use it mostly so I can pick the name of my printers, and not be limited to gnome-cups-manager's names06:46
desrteyda|mon; i really don't know.  i think it might just be built-in to apt06:46
tritiumnickrud, cool06:46
firestormnickrud: sorry, found it in RootSudo wiki :)06:47
sproingieMadpilot: it keeps the single quote06:47
chaps0063bob2: I come from a long time of using windows...lol, formatting is no problem!06:47
desrteyda|mon; my ppc64 mac has a ppc64 kernel on it, and apt still knows to download powerpc packages06:47
Madpilotsproingie: really? what else is in the cell?06:47
ugoJDahl: but i have to specifically enable kerberos during the config...06:47
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sproingieMadpilot: i entered '1+, and the cell now contains '1+06:47
chaps0063bob2: I was used to formatting every two weeks.06:47
chaps0063lol06:47
sproingieMadpilot: i want it to contain 1+06:47
ugoJDahl: ./configure-libafs --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --with-krb5 --prefix=/usr/local/ --exec-prefix=/usr/local/06:47
desrtLinux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux06:47
sproingieMadpilot: i have similar issues with 2/06:47
desrt^^ downloads powerpc06:47
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Madpilotsproingie: have you asked on #openoffice.org?06:48
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sproingieMadpilot: ah, that's the channel name06:48
ugoJDahl: somedays you gotta love this os....06:48
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JDahlugo, I am not sure, but I dont think I used --with-krb5 when I built it, and maybe it doesnt matter for the client - I definitely matters for the server06:48
JDahlit matters for the server...06:49
Madpilotsproingie: on my Hoary install of OO, entering '1+ in a cell displays 1+ in the cell...06:49
desrtMadpilot; spreadsheet or wordprocessor?06:49
eyda|mondesrt: well, ppc64 is still powerpc so I'm not surprised06:49
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Madpilotsproingie: spreadsheet06:49
desrteyda|mon; amd64 is still 386...06:49
JDahlugo, and yes, afs is way to complicated to use on linux - I dont what happened; it wasnt always this hard06:49
desrtMadpilot; i think he wants it for a table in the wordprocessor06:49
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chaps0063so bob2, would you recommend apache2 or apache on this next install?06:50
sproingieMadpilot: it leaves the single quote in in the word proc06:50
Madpilotdesrt: ah, different prob. haven't used tables in OO Text yet06:50
firestormOne thing I have noticed is that general users can't really select COLOUR or B&W when printing. Seems as though admin enables one or the other from admin tools. Any userspace workaround?06:50
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bob2chaps0063: apache206:50
eyda|mondesrt: no. uname -m shows amd64 for those who have it.06:50
sproingiedesrt: smart06:50
eyda|mondesrt: not i68606:50
chaps0063bob2: ok, and what would be the proper command for apache2, php, mysql to install.06:50
desrteyda|mon; and uname -m shows ppc64 for me06:51
desrtnot ppc06:51
chaps0063and DAMN there is a good ass storm coming.06:51
sproingiedesrt: i used to prefer abiword ... back in the day when it wasn't crashy as hell06:51
desrtLinux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux06:51
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eyda|mondesrt: I think apt would be clever enough to deduce that to be ppc tho :P06:51
eyda|monnot that far off06:51
tritiumfirestorm, can you setup separate printers, one b&w and one color?06:51
desrtsproingie; ya.. abiword has some stability issues... it's getting better again lately, though06:51
ugoJDahl: do you use kerberos?06:51
desrteyda|mon; i seriously think it's just built-in06:51
bob2chaps0063: as I gave you earlier06:51
chaps0063bob2: ok..is it possible we could revisit that command as I did not save it?06:52
eyda|mondesrt: how would it know what packages to download if there's no indication that you have a ppc? It has to guess it somehow, right? uname -m seems reasonable enough06:52
desrteyda|mon; no mention of 'uname' in the source of apt, except in the autoconf stuff06:52
eyda|mondesrt: well, /proc/cpuinfo then06:52
desrteyda|mon; because apt is a powerpc binary06:52
bob2chaps0063: sudo aptitude install mysql-server php4-mysql apache2 libapache2-mod-php406:52
desrtit's a chicken-and-egg t hing06:52
desrtand you wouldn't use /proc/cpuinfo06:52
bob2chaps0063: I assume; you never did say what you meant by "mysql".06:52
firestormtritium: good idea06:53
desrteyda|mon; apt knows to download for powerpc because apt itself is for powerpc06:53
chaps0063bob2: php and mysql.06:53
eyda|mondesrt: so you're theorizing there's no way to convert a 32-bit installation to a 64-bit?06:53
bob2chaps0063: I don't know what that means.06:53
firestormtritium: and is it possible for users to get a nice print dialog instead of manually typing in 'lpr -P<printername> or something similar with lp or mpage?06:53
chaps0063bob2: to use php to query mysql06:53
desrteyda|mon; more or less06:53
chaps0063so yeah, the php4-mysql I'm assuming is correct.06:53
bob2chaps0063: then php4-mysql06:53
desrteyda|mon; think about it... it would be a fairly impossible process06:54
Madpilot!lamp06:54
ubotulamp is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary06:54
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desrteyda|mon; you'd have to simultaneously swap the libc and all of the applications06:54
JDahlugo, as long as the client uses the correct protocol it should be fine... it shouldn't matter if you build it using heimdal or kerberos. I think I used Kerberos for a server I built on Debian/Sarge kernel 2.4, but I managed to build a 2.6 client also, but I dont remember if I used kerberos... I am looking at Debian docs right now06:54
Madpilotchaps0063: sorry, haven't been following, but have you seen the link ubotu just posted?06:54
desrteyda|mon; not to mention the kernel (somehow)06:54
tritiumfirestorm, only from applications that use the gnome cups interface, as far as I'm aware (excluding kde apps, which I don't know about)06:54
eyda|mondesrt: maybe apt looks at the kernel header files when it's being built06:54
ugoJDahl: paste url pls06:54
r0dwhat linux header files do i use w/ the amd64 chip?06:54
chaps0063Madpilot: yes.06:54
desrteyda|mon; no.  ./configure calls uname during building06:55
chaps0063Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary06:55
desrteyda|mon; fairly sure that's how it gets it06:55
eyda|mondesrt: fair enough06:55
eyda|monsounds plausible06:55
firestormtritium: and finally...using gnome-cups-manager means it automatically names my printer queue and I can't seem to change it...any hints?06:55
tritiumfirestorm, no, nickrud was just commenting on that earlier06:56
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ksmurfDamn Gnome install didn't go well06:56
firestormtritium: ah thanks06:56
eyda|monI'll have to reinstall then06:56
eyda|monsucks06:56
chaps0063Madpilot: nice..thanks.06:56
ksmurfIt won't start06:56
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desrteyda|mon; the process, if it was possible, would be extremely painful06:56
Tattooim in desperate need of help06:56
Madpilotchaps0063: np. sounds like that's what you need?06:56
dapimp53OMG this is so nice now that my wireless works06:56
dapimp53LOL06:56
desrteyda|mon; so you'd want to reinstall anyway :)06:56
chaps0063Madpilot: yeah, sure does..06:56
dapimp53My last thing I have is my sound. I need to get my sound to work06:56
eyda|mondesrt: update apt to get 64-bit packages, then upgrade the kernel. Doesn't sound too bad?06:57
chaps0063Madpilot: had one to many, and the fact that I never heard of LAMP.06:57
Tattooi have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.06:57
Tattoofor my driver06:57
desrteyda|mon; you can't have 64bit packages installed with a 32bit kernel06:57
desrtnothing would work06:57
desrtso you'd have to do the kernel first06:57
eyda|mondesrt: fine. that's not too hard either :P06:57
desrteyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit programs with 32bit libs... so you'd have to do libs first06:57
desrteyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit libs with 32bit programs... so you'd have to do programs first06:57
Madpilotchaps0063: neither had I a few weeks ago, but it's the 'standard' server setup. I'm running it on my box right now, behind firestarter so it's not publicly accessible...06:57
eyda|monheh06:58
desrteyda|mon; and now you've got trouble06:58
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B-Lanyone know how i can set to use kdm instead of gdm?06:58
tritiumeyda|mon, you can have a 64 bit install, and a 32 bit install in a chroot06:58
chaps0063Madpilot: well I want this as a "testing" on my laptop for when I am away from the net to develop sites.06:58
eyda|monok, I'm convinced just to reinstall :P06:58
tritiumB-L, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" (using gdm also works), and select kdm06:58
desrt:)06:58
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tfortgah.. anyone here play wow at all?06:59
delltonytritium, figured out my overheat problem it was the obvious06:59
tritiumdelltony, what was it?06:59
desrtworld of warcrack?06:59
tforti'm having a new issue with the 1.6 patch randomly freezing, hehe06:59
delltonywell kinda obvious i should say06:59
tfortdesrt,yes, and i need my fi06:59
tfortfix06:59
desrtfreak06:59
TattooHELLO06:59
ses|ubuntu with kde?06:59
Madpilotchaps0063: that's what mine is for. want to learn PHP, for the heck of it06:59
delltonyi took out my fans and went holy bork06:59
desrt#ubuntu isn't for crack addicts :P06:59
B-Lthx06:59
tforthaha06:59
desrtses|; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:59
delltonythe inside was like the lint guard from a dryer07:00
Tattoogrrr07:00
TattooSOMEONE HELP ME07:00
chaps0063Madpilot: well I do a bit of web design, www.bredinger.com is my home page, basically I just have a blog and such ATM.07:00
tritiumdelltony, hah07:00
ses|thanks07:00
fortysixand2yeah, yelling will help07:00
delltonyi pealed it off and wala  temp is 4507:00
Tattoosorry07:00
Tattookinda frustrated07:00
fortysixand2:p07:00
ses|thanks07:00
chaps0063Madpilot: as my site's bandwdith usage goes through the roof cause a link was posted...lol.07:00
desrtTattoo; uh07:00
fortysixand2Tattoo:  what;'s up?07:00
nickrudfirestorm, I had to walk away for a while, have you got your printer queue set up the way you want it?07:00
delltonyfans were workking but couldn't do nothing i should have known07:00
desrtTattoo; i don't think you've actually asked any questions yet07:00
Tattooi need help installing a 'module'07:00
Tattooyes i did07:00
JDahlugo, this is a very old link: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816. The debian docs are /usr/share/doc/libopenafs-doc, but then you have to install their old AFS version. As I recall those old docs recommends using Kerberos, but maybe you should try to build it with --with-krb5 and see what happens07:00
tritiumTattoo, you need to ask a more specific question than "make a module or something"07:01
fortysixand2ok, which one?07:01
Tattooi have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.07:01
Tattooyea07:01
desrtTattoo; so good job at getting frustrated for people not answering your non-existant question07:01
Tattoosome guys said07:01
Tattooguy07:01
delltonyglad it fixed though i was beinginig to crank out the tools and start doing laptop repair man07:01
delltonyhaha07:01
Tattoosaid that its not a driver07:01
Tattooi gotta install a driver for my antenna07:01
Madpilotchaps0063: I should add a bit more to ubotu's LAMP link, so ppl know why it's being posted...!07:01
Tattooto connect to another computer for internet access07:01
emXTattoo: you have a wireless card?07:01
Tattoono07:01
Tattoomy antenna plugs into a usb port07:01
dravineel crapola!07:01
desrtthat's wireless.07:01
Tattooi know07:01
delltonyoh but i did learn some cool stuff in the making of figuring it out, i learned how to manual scale the processor with cpu govenor and setstep07:01
firestormnickrud: yup got it now...had to use CUPS so that I could give it a sane name though :)  And added 2 entries, one for b+w, another for colour...thansk for your perserverence!07:01
tritiumdelltony, I'm glad you found out the problem07:01
desrtTattoo; do you know what kind of card it is?07:01
chaps0063Madpilot: yes, I had no clue what LAMP was, I thought it was something I lit when it was dark ;-)07:01
fortysixand2what card is it?07:01
Tattooits not a card07:01
fortysixand2oops, too slow07:02
desrtTattoo; ...07:02
dravinewhat chipset07:02
dravinetat?07:02
Tattooits a usb port07:02
Tattoodunno07:02
desrtTattoo; still a wireless card07:02
nickrudfirestorm, np07:02
desrtTattoo; what brand?07:02
Tattooi dont know07:02
delltonyyeah me too thanks for your help and the rest of you that tried07:02
Tattooagere07:02
fortysixand2what product is it?  model number, manufacturer, etc?07:02
Tattooumm07:02
TattooAgere07:02
Tattooi dont have the model number07:02
Tattooi have a serial number07:02
emXTattoo: that might help07:02
Tattooits:07:02
dapimp53I have a Realtec sound card and I can't seem to get it to work in Ubuntu. Any ideas?07:02
desrtagere isn't mentioned on the wireless page07:02
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delltonytritium, 53C is about normal correct?07:03
Tattoo02UT3141467307:03
glickits saturday night for godsakes why dont you people go out or something?07:03
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weisdapimp53, is it AC97?07:03
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dapimp53desrt: are you having problems with your wireless network?07:03
desrtTattoo; when the card plugged in, do 'lsusb'07:03
desrtdapimp53; not really07:03
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TattooWTF07:03
Tattoooops07:03
nickrudI'm at work, what about you, glick :)07:03
dapimp53its alC25007:03
Tattoocaps07:03
chaps0063glick: I have about 5-6 beers down now...is that good enough, lol.07:03
fortysixand2glick: I prefer reading and learning to "going out"07:03
desrtTattoo; does one of those look like a wireless card?07:03
glicknickrud, i just rode the bull07:03
Tattoodesrt, can i PM you07:03
desrtTattoo; no07:03
Tattoogdit07:03
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weistry loading the i810 audio driver07:04
tritiumdelltony, I believe so07:04
Tattoothere too much commotion07:04
nickrudhow many times did you get thrown :)07:04
weisthat's worked for me in the past with onboard AC97 audio07:04
emXTattoo: it's better to resolve these issues in the channel so that other folks can see the answer07:04
dapimp53weis: how do I do that?07:04
Tattooumm07:04
JDahlugo, that's without --with-krb5, of course07:04
Tattoohow07:04
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desrtemX; represent.07:04
desrt:)07:04
Tattoobecause 2390487923 peple are talking at once07:04
Tattooand i cant even get the answer07:04
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glickheh riding the bull is when your doing a chick you slap her ass and tell her her sister was better, and hang on07:04
weisyou could modprobe -i snd_i81007:04
weisI think that's the right module07:04
delltonywow i feel like i have a new pc again haha07:04
desrtTattoo; did you do lsusb yet?07:04
Tattoono07:04
Tattooi dont know how07:04
emXTattoo: just be patient -- there are people that want to help; it takes a little time, though07:04
Tattooim new07:04
Madpilot!lamp07:05
ubotulamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary07:05
desrtoh07:05
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desrtdo you know how to get to a terminal?07:05
Tattoolol07:05
Tattooyea07:05
desrtdo lsusb in there07:05
Tattooand then?07:05
tritiumglick, please, enough of that07:05
useruserhow do i find out what verion of ubuntu I'm running?07:05
desrtlook to see if one looks like your network card07:05
glickhaha07:05
dapimp53weis: FATAL: Module snd_i810 not found.07:05
Madpilotchaps0063: just revised ubotu's LAMP entry. better now, I think!07:05
Tattoowell ill have to brb07:05
Tattoocuz i gotta restart and run the live CD07:05
desrtoh.07:05
Tattoojust type lsusb ?07:05
tritiumuseruser, lsb_release -a07:05
desrtfor what it's worth....07:05
glickcomputers are ok, but you cant comb your fingers through their hair07:05
emXTattoo: yeah07:05
chaps0063Madpilot: sounds better...07:05
desrti doubt you'll get this card to work07:05
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Tattoodude07:06
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Tattoowould you please listen07:06
delltonyhey tritium you know if they have fixed the last -d bug yet?07:06
Computer__Gurui didnt mean to do that07:06
Tattooi need a driver!!07:06
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Tattoofor the antenna07:06
desrtTattoo; one might not exist.07:06
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Computer__Gurucompiling a kernel is so phun07:06
chaps0063Madpilot: I never even heard of it as lamp before.07:06
Tattoohold on07:06
tritiumdelltony, I'm not sure, sorry07:06
Tattooyo07:06
desrtTattoo; in fact, one probably doesn't07:06
Tattooyes07:06
emXTattoo: lsusb will give us more information about your wireless device07:06
Tattooon the CD07:06
Tattooif you explore it07:06
ugoJDahl: looks like all the files get installed in /usr/local/ alright07:06
Tattooit has a driver folder with linux and tells you what to do07:06
Tattooexcept i dont understand it07:06
delltonyits fine but my question is this it is infact a bug and not some russian dude trying to access me right?07:06
desrtoh.  interesting.07:06
userusertritium: thanks. seems I'm running warty - should I upgrade as for debian, change sources.list and then dist-upgrade to hoary (?)07:06
desrtok.  that's good information.07:06
glickdamn i gotta crap load of mp3 files i gotta sort07:06
glickitll take me hours :(07:06
Tattoothats why i wanna pm07:06
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Tattooto tell you waht it says07:07
ugoJDahl: but not in openafs under that directory rather in /usr/local/bin and so on07:07
desrtyou can just say here07:07
paxthat lamp kiwi is a mess.07:07
Tattoono07:07
Tattooits long07:07
chaps0063Madpilot: you recommended bluefish to me right?07:07
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weistry ac97_codec instead of i81007:07
desrtthen use a pastebin07:07
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Tattoooh07:07
Tattoookay07:07
emXTattoo: can you paste it in paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:07
emX?07:07
tritiumuseruser, yes07:07
fortysixand2http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:07
fortysixand2oops, too late again!07:07
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emXfortysixand2: ;-)07:07
dapimp53weis: no error... Let me check to see if it work07:07
fortysixand2me = teh slow  :-(07:07
haithi, i need a direct conect client, please07:08
emXhait: apt-cache search dcc07:08
Tattood07:08
emXhait: on the command line...07:08
Tattoohere is the installation instructions:07:08
Tattoohttp://pastebin.com/31481507:08
Madpilotchaps0063: I think so. sometime this morning?07:08
haitokm thks07:08
chaps0063Madpilot: depends where you are...07:08
Madpilotchaps0063: install Screem too07:08
haitand a graphic client?07:08
JDahlugo, that's mildly annoying, but ok... google abit on how to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs. There your school probably provides most of the info (cells etc)07:08
chaps0063Madpilot: Ahhhhhhhhhhh! ;-)07:09
desrtah.  wavelan card07:09
Tattooeh?07:09
Madpilotchaps0063: heh. OK, about 12.5hrs ago, then... :)07:09
emXhait: dcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)07:09
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chaps0063Madpilot: it wasnt that long, where are you located?07:09
userusertritium: thanks07:09
desrtTattoo; holy crap this is involved07:09
Tattoodesrt, so what?07:09
Tattooyea i know07:09
Tattooi have know idea what to do07:09
VacendakI've been running ubuntu for about 15 minutes now  and it is really slick but I can't understand the root password system. What are the advantages over the traditional *nix way?07:10
tritiumuseruser, :)07:10
fortysixand2if it's a usb thing, why do you need pcmcia sources?07:10
chaps0063Madpilot: with the LAMP wiki, is it not required to uncomment anything in httpd.conf for php usage?07:10
tritiumVacendak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:10
Tattoono idea07:10
Madpilotchaps0063: BC, Canada. Pacific timezone. it must have been around 0930 my time, it's now 2210 local...07:10
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fortysixand2seems odd to me07:10
Tattooyo07:10
Tattoodo you just want me to go to the terminal and type lsusb07:10
desrtTattoo; the fact that you can't be in ubuntu and on IRC at the same time makes this almost impossible07:10
haitemX: yeah, i know but dcgui client is bad...07:10
desrtTattoo; no.  we know what type of card you have now, from the docs07:10
Madpilotchaps0063: I don't think so. I didn't change anything,and PHP runs on my machine...07:10
Tattooumm07:10
emXemX: how so?07:10
Tattooim on windows right now07:10
Tattooi know07:11
emXhait: how so?07:11
Tattooill have to restart with the cd in07:11
ugoJDahl: sure...07:11
desrtlemme see if i can make some sense of this documentation07:11
dapimp53weis: nope no sound07:11
Tattoowait07:11
Tattoothats not all of it07:11
Tattoodo you need all of it?07:11
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chaps0063Madpilot: ok, I will follow it to a T and let you know how it turns out07:11
Tattoothe system requirements and all that?07:11
weisdapimp53, did you get a mixer set up too?07:11
dapimp53no07:11
weisI think it's MAKEDEV mixer under /dev07:12
emXVacendak: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RootSudo07:12
weisbut that could be way oldskool07:12
bob2you shouldn't ever need MAKEDEV on ubuntu07:12
chaps0063Madpilot: gotta love cable internet, 510KB/s07:12
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desrtTattoo; does the driver work on 2.6?07:12
haiti'm use wulfor rigth now... but this is unestable07:12
desrtTattoo; from what i'm seeing here, it's for linux 2.407:12
Tattoowhat is 2.607:12
desrtTattoo; that's probably trouble07:12
Tattoo*sigh*07:12
Madpilotchaps0063: not sure how the dailup ppl manage w/ Linux... or at all, really... :)07:12
desrtTattoo; the version of linux you have07:12
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VacendakThanks. makes sense. I am very impressed07:12
Tattooso im not going to be able to run linux am i?07:12
Tattoowell07:13
desrtTattoo; definitely not very easily07:13
Tattoowith intenrent access07:13
Tattootypos07:13
dapimp53Says it doesnt know how to make device "mixer"07:13
chaps0063Madpilot: no clue...it must be ashame, my girlfriend is still on AOL...07:13
emXVacendak: i like it alot, too; i administer solaris and debian boxes, too; i've come to prefer sudo07:13
weisdapimp53, doesn't www.viaarena.com have some linux drivers for your sound?07:13
desrtTattoo; i guess it doesn't just detect it when you boot up with it plugged in?07:13
chaps0063Madpilot: its terrible when I'm at her house..07:13
Tattooeh07:13
Tattooi guess not07:13
useruserhm. I'm trying to upgrade from warty to hoary, but dist-upgrade is holding lots of packages back. there seem to be lots of unsatisfied dependencies according to aptitude. is this usual?07:13
emXTattoo: other wireless devices are rather inexpensive...07:13
desrt:(07:13
Tattooim not buying anything07:13
chaps0063unfortunately, my modem doesnt work in linux, so I can't use my dialup account.07:13
Tattoobrb07:13
Tattooima just go do that lsusb07:14
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Tattoowould that help at all?07:14
VacendakI am a Suse guy but I am loving this07:14
desrtnot really07:14
Tattoogrr07:14
Tattoowhat do i need to do?07:14
desrtwe already know it's a wavelan07:14
the_walruswhats a normal transfer rate for an ATA100 HD?07:14
fortysixand2does that live cd contain the wavelan modules?  Couldn't he/she just "modprobe wavelan_cs"?07:14
Tattoome?07:14
fortysixand2yeah07:14
Tattoo<-- dude07:15
emXVacendak: suse is nice, too; i'm quite a fan of the Debian-eque linuxes, though07:15
Tattooand how do i know if i have wavelan mods07:15
fortysixand2ok, he then :)07:15
tritiumTattoo, try "modinfo wavelan_cs"07:15
Tattoohow can i find out07:15
Tattoohmm07:15
Tattooill brb07:15
Tattoogotta restart now =(07:15
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fortysixand2when it's plugged in, what does lsmod give07:15
Tattoorofl07:15
Tattooi dont know07:15
emX??07:15
nickrudthe_walrus, I seem to get about 40MB/sec on my disks, your milage may vary07:15
Tattoohold on a second07:15
tritiumTattoo, wait.  That just tells you info about the module.07:15
Tattooill brb07:15
jcapotehas anyone in here used suse?07:16
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Tattooso07:16
Tattoowhat do i need to do?07:16
Vacendakemx: Think this is a going to be my distro of choice07:16
tritiumTattoo, just so you know.  lsmod to load it07:16
nickrudjcapote, well, about 5 years ago :)07:16
La_PaRCaHey guys. I updated to hoary from warty and now all my stuff is in english. How do I change my Locale?07:16
jcapoteI wanted someone to give me a comparison between ubuntu and suse 9.307:16
desrttritium; ?07:16
fortysixand2lmod doesn't load, does it?   thought modprobe did07:16
fortysixand2lsmod, I mean07:16
Tattoohey07:17
tritiumdesrt, oops, modprobe ;)07:17
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tritiumthanks for catching taht07:17
emXfortysixand2: yeah, modprove does.07:17
desrttritium; np :P07:17
tritiumTattoo, I'm out of my mind ;)07:17
Tattoowait07:17
Tattoolisten:07:17
emXs/modprove/modprobe07:17
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TattooTo unpack the Linux PCMCIA package, copy it to the07:17
Tattoo       current working directory and type:07:17
Tattoo       % tar xzvf pcmcia-cs-3.1.29.tar.gz07:17
Tattoohow do i do that07:17
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desrtTattoo; while you're out picking up your new network card, grab some valium07:17
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emXVacendak: i've also been getting into the *BSDs of late -- especially OpenBSD.07:17
fortysixand2I don't think you don't need to do that, since it's USB07:17
Tattoosigh07:17
Tattoothen what!07:17
ksmurfOk when I try to log into my new install I am kicked out of the session right away with an error about not being able to create a ~/.gnome dir.  What does this mean?07:18
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ugoJDahl: hmm...do you know of any issues with reiserfs?07:18
Tattoohow do i change directorys in a terminal07:18
desrti should take the BSD hal for a spin07:18
emXksmurf: do you have write permissions in your home directory07:18
nickrudTattoo, if you think you need to compile the pcmcia stuff yourself, take a deap breath, and rethink07:18
desrtTattoo; cd07:18
Tattoocd what07:18
Tattoolike07:18
desrtcd newdirectory07:18
ksmurfemX how should I check?07:18
useruserfor example, I can't upgrade mozilla-firefox because of     --- libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) (UNAVAILABLE)07:18
Tattooif i wanted to go to a director on my desktop named mole07:18
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useruserwhat's that all about?07:19
desrtcd Desktop/mole07:19
Tattoohmm07:19
JDahlugo, no.. what issues would that be?07:19
Tattoowell what do i need to do?07:19
emXksmurf: 'ls -l /path/to/homedirectory'; probably 'ls -l /home/ksmurf'07:19
thr1cenetBSD =] 07:19
holycowuseruser, running breezy?07:19
nickruduseruser, something is wrong with /etc/apt/sources.list07:19
holycowor using a non ubuntu repository?07:19
desrtemX; ~07:19
ksmurfemX not on this box but on my wifes07:19
VacendakemX: played with the BSDs, don't like the naming conventions but can't beat the security of OPENBSD even if the lead developer talks trash about linux.07:19
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ksmurfemX i'll check07:19
Tattoowell what do i need to do?07:19
emXdesrt: ;-)07:19
La_PaRCaHey, I just updated from hoary to warty, and I had everything in spanish before. How come everything is in english now?07:20
emXdesrt: didn't assume it was his user.07:20
La_PaRCaWhere can I change my gnome locale?07:20
userusernickrud: probably - I have hoary universe multiverse and hoary-security main restricted07:20
userusernickrud: should there be more?07:20
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Tattooi want linux on this computer so bad its not funny07:20
desrtwow07:20
chaps0063Madpilot: working on LAMP now..07:20
desrtmadwifi is well-maintained07:20
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benplautwait... i missed something... what was the problem?07:21
fortysixand2rofl @ tritium07:21
Tattoogrr07:21
Tattooyo07:21
benplautohhh07:21
Tattoois there ANYTHING i can do withouth having to buy something07:21
benplautwireless trouble07:21
Tattooyes07:21
Tattooi hate this stupid crap07:21
benplautprobably not07:21
Tattooif my bitch mom would get cable07:21
jcapotedoes ubuntu have an easy way to manage the changing of wireless networks07:21
emXTattoo: sheesh...07:21
jcapotelike say you have a static ip at home but at a friends house you use dhcp07:21
useruserholycow: no, trying to upgrade warty to hoary07:21
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benplauttry GTKwifi07:21
Tattooi need to install the driver07:21
desrtTattoo; seriously... valium would help a lot07:21
aruTattoo: maybe you should get a job and buy your own cable07:21
tritiumTattoo, calm down, man.  No need to talk about your own mom that way.07:21
Tattoo<--- is 1507:22
nickruduseruser, I recommend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles, the more organized version.07:22
benplaut<--- is 1307:22
Tattoocant get a job07:22
desrtTattoo; we'd never have guessed07:22
aruok, maybe you should get a paper route07:22
emXTattoo: assuming you're in the US, you are legally employable.07:22
Tattoookay07:22
Tattoono sir07:22
emXYMMV in other countries...07:22
ugoJDahl: i just read something wrt locking07:22
tritiumfortysixand2, no wonder he didn't get the Fantasy Island reference ;)07:22
Tattooim not07:22
Tattoobecause i havent a way back and forth07:22
benplautTattoo: clean spyware/adware/virii from Windows computers ;)07:22
ugoJDahl: just asking if you had some preknowlesge07:22
Tattoomy mother works07:22
benplautthat's what i do :)07:22
Tattooand we only have one car07:22
fortysixand2can you take the card back and get a new one?07:22
Tattoookay07:22
Tattooget back on the subject07:22
Tattoono07:23
Tattooits not a card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:23
thr1ceit is a card07:23
emXTattoo: s/card/device07:23
benplautwhat is it?07:23
desrtTattoo; it is.07:23
fortysixand2ok, forget it07:23
emXbenplaut: wireless usb07:23
Tattooits a fucking usb port thats been in this bitch for 8 years07:23
aruTattoo: come into #ubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss you getting a job :)07:23
desrt"wireless card" == something that does wifi that's not a base station07:23
emXdesrt: :-)07:23
fortysixand2I quit07:23
ZerboxxTattoo: It's a usb wireless device?07:23
Tattooi guess07:23
tritiumTattoo, please tone down the language, and calm down a bit as we try to assist you07:23
Tattooall i know is07:23
desrtfortysixand2; wise. :)07:23
Tattooi plug it into a usb port...and it works07:24
La_PaRCaWhere can I change my gnome locale?07:24
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desrtLa_PaRCa; from the login screen07:24
benplautyou can pick up a PCI (or maybe USB) card for... $2007:24
ZerboxxTattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; just pick a different language07:24
Tattoo*sigh*07:24
Computer__Gurumake modules is taking a quick minute07:24
TattooIM NOT BUYING NOTHING07:24
La_PaRCadesrt, its not working.07:24
desrt:(07:24
benplautOK, then you won't have internet07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; what language?07:24
Tattoono07:24
Tattoothere is a way07:24
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ZerboxxTattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number07:24
Tattoowithout buying something07:24
La_PaRCadesrt, spanish07:24
Tattooi dont know the model number07:24
Tattooi know the serial number07:24
desrtLa_PaRCa; did you install language-pack-es ?07:24
Computer__Guruname brans?07:24
emXTattoo: there is a way, but it's going to require a good deal of familiarity with linux07:24
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tritiumAnd more patience than you're showing07:25
Tattooand the brand is Agere Systems07:25
desrtLa_PaRCa; better question, i guess... did you pick spanish as your language during the installer?07:25
Computer__Gurusince when did manufacturers start monopolizing the pc market?07:25
emXTattoo: we can only help you so much;07:25
Tattooeh07:25
emXTattoo: we'd like to help, though.07:25
La_PaRCadesrt, um, its not there for some reason. used to be there before the update. go figure.07:25
chaps0063I followed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is httpd.conf?07:25
Tattooapparently not07:25
mgcrossquestion: I have a number of full DVDs that I dumped to my HD before comming to Korea...how the heck do I play them as a dvd...not just the individual tracks, one at a time? WHere are the menues?07:25
desrtLa_PaRCa; did you move to breezy?07:25
Tattooi've been here for half an hour07:25
benplautemX: hate to be a pessimest, but after 3 months struggling with my first card (and learning tons about linux in the process), i ended up buying a new card. sometimes it... just plain doesn't work07:25
Computer__Guruin /etc/apache/07:25
Tattooand all you do is bitch at me07:26
Computer__Gurui think heh07:26
nickrudTattoo, a whole half hour :)07:26
La_PaRCadesrt, nope, from warty to hoary. needless to say it didnt go completely smooth07:26
userusernickrud: thanks, that did the trick07:26
emXbenplaut: i've been there, too; wireless is rough.07:26
desrtLa_PaRCa; try apt-get install language-pack-es language-support-es07:26
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benplautemX: i'm still there :)07:26
desrtLa_PaRCa; maybe the files got lost in the upgrade or something07:26
emXbenplaut: me too.07:26
benplautstupid old version of wireless-tools...07:26
emXbenplaut: and with all sorts of wireless to boot.07:26
La_PaRCadesrt, yeah. lots of stuff got lost for some reason or other, not sure.07:26
Tattoothis totally sucks07:27
tritiumTattoo, we've been trying to help you.  No need to insult those who have helped you.07:27
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Tattoono one has helped me because the thing still isnt working07:27
fortysixand2I bet a reboot, insert the DEVICE, and type "modprobe wavelan_cs" would work07:27
emXTattoo: it's very difficult to support wireless hardware; lots of manufacturers insist on keeping their specs closed.07:27
tritiumTattoo, yes, several have tried.07:27
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nickrudTattoo, maybe if you can do a bit of work, like getting us the exact model of the thing you want to work07:27
benplautTattoo: first of all, it's not definate that someone even knows what to do... and a half hour isn't alot. i've been in this channel all day :)07:27
Tattoo'tried'07:27
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La_PaRCadesrt, might have something to do with me not having enough space with the partition to cache all the packages for the dist-upgrade :P07:28
desrttritium; is that like a selective +m?07:28
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fortysixand2whose IP could that be?07:28
desrtLa_PaRCa; oh man.  i ran out of space during a dist-upgrade once... it wasn't happy.07:28
dbwdesrt: yes07:28
emXheh07:28
tritiumdesrt, it's ot quiet07:28
desrtdbw; sweet.07:28
tritiumto07:28
Computer__Guruseriously, though, for a channel with 400 people in it, i think service is pretty fuckin zippy - especially considering nobody gets paid to do this07:28
emXComputer__Guru: definitely.07:28
La_PaRCadesrt, I know that now. not making that mistake again.07:28
desrtthat kid has some serious issues07:28
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chaps0063if I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is my httpd.conf07:29
fortysixand2no kidding, it's not like we HAVE to be here and help07:29
desrtLa_PaRCa; so were the packages installed already or are they installing now?07:29
fortysixand2I do it because I like Linux and helping people use it07:29
emXComputer__Guru: it's probably not the ideal environment for everyone, though; still, it works surprisingly well07:29
benplautwell, that's the end of Tattoo07:29
La_PaRCadesrt, downloading as we speak. Thanks a lot.07:29
nickrudfor a while, anyway07:29
emXbenplaut: and i thought they were permanent...07:29
benplauti doubt we'll see him/her again under that name07:29
fortysixand2I bet if he would have modprobed for wavelan_cs, it would work07:29
desrtLa_PaRCa; i only hope it works :)07:29
benplautemX: true... true...07:29
benplautbye everyone :)07:30
fortysixand2bye07:30
tritiumgoodnight benplaut07:30
Computer__Gurui gotta say i see a hell of a lot more help being served up in this channel than the 'support' channels/rooms of any other dist ive ever been in07:30
Madpilotchaps0063: Places --> Search for Files...07:30
emXor goodmonring07:30
Computer__Guruand ive been in my share07:30
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La_PaRCaThis chan kicks ass, if you dont mind me saying so07:30
tritiumComputer__Guru, glad to heat it :)07:30
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chaps0063Madpilot: no files found07:30
tritiumhear even07:30
VacendakBeen here 30 minutes and I have to say BEST IRC CHANNEL EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!07:31
Madpilotchaps0063: switch the filefinder to "Filesystem",07:31
ugoJDahl: so where can i get the debian scripts you mentioned?07:31
tritiumLa_PaRCa, Vacendak :)07:31
Madpilotchaps0063: my httpd.conf is in /etc/apache207:31
chaps0063Madpilot: did, no luck07:31
ugoJDahl: lots of happy ubuntu users eh?07:31
chaps0063Madpilot:  yeah, but I can't control anything there.07:31
chaps0063Madpilot: I wanted to be able to changed my documentroot07:31
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mgcrossany takers on what I need to do to play ripped dvds with titles etc...*think* I've installed all the support I need...07:31
yahalomhow do i reinstall something with apt-get?07:32
nickrudI'd laugh, except that tritium has earned his bows ;)07:32
desrthmm07:32
Vantage__yahalom: apt-get install --reinstall packagename07:32
mgcrossand yes, I've been reading man pages...07:32
desrtthe perma-hard-locks that used to be caused by the old atheros driver appear to have turned into half-second mini-studders07:32
ksmurfemX u rock... I got it changed07:32
desrti'll take it!07:32
Madpilotchaps0063: in a terminal, open gedit with sudo. can't recall the exact command... somene else, please?07:32
emXksmurf: great!07:32
La_PaRCaIm gonna keep coming here. I guess someone will eventually come up with something I do know.07:32
tritiumnickrud, ?07:32
emXksmurf: so it's working, then?07:32
mgcrossyou guys are always my last resort...07:32
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La_PaRCaand then I can help them. :)07:32
emXmgcross: how did you back the DVDs up?07:33
dapimp53Now I hear some wierd sounds out of my speakers but its not playing the sound. Its extremly distorted07:33
nickrudbad phrasing. My kudos, also :)07:33
yahalomVantage__, thanx07:33
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: it's addictive... and even an utter noob like me can find a few specialties...07:33
Vantage__np07:33
mgcrossjust dumped the whole thinkgs to HD....sold my DVD drive before I moved here....07:33
JDahlugo, it's abit of a mess... get the source package for openafs-client, build it and grab configurations from the 'debian' directory... maybe it's easier to set it up yourself07:33
desrtemX; backup?  pfft.  you're kidding right?  bittorrent, man :P07:33
mgcrossemx: just dumped the whole thinkgs to HD....sold my DVD drive before I moved here....07:34
emXdesrt: i prefer the library...discs are scratched often, though07:34
La_PaRCaMadpilot, I guess when the wine questions come around, I'll be here. That and working with the PSP under linux. :)07:34
emXmgcross: how'd you dump 'em? dvdbackup?07:34
JDahlugo, you basically only need to setup CellServDB and few other files07:34
La_PaRCaok, lets see if this here locale worked07:34
desrtemX; ya.  i do the same with music.  haven't really gotten into movies yet, tho07:34
La_PaRCabrb07:34
tritiumLa_PaRCa, awesome :)07:34
desrtemX; don't watch 'em enough07:34
emXdesrt: oooh, i like movies. music, too.07:34
emXdesrt: therefore, i like libraries.07:34
tritiumnickrud, the kudos go to the whole channel :)07:35
mgcrossemx: nope, not that smart...just copied the whole disks to folders with the movie names...everything is there, and I can play them one bit at a time....ooops?07:35
nickrudwell, most of us just pick the low hanging fruit.07:35
emXmgcross: you mean one .VOB at a time?07:35
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mgcrossemx: hehe, yes...that's what I mean...sorry...07:36
emXmgcross: i've done that before, too; just make a playlist of each .VOB in xine or similar07:36
nickrudand hope we don't drop it ;<07:36
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emXmgcross: works ok. you might want to look into dvdbackup or similar for the future.07:36
tritiumheh07:36
La_PaRCadesrt, beautiful, its all spanish goodness now :)07:36
desrtLa_PaRCa; excellent :)07:36
ugoJDahl: yeah apparently07:36
emXmgcross: or totem, or mplayer...07:37
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ugoJDahl: im printing out the openafs installation pages now07:37
mgcrossemx: I will...damn..was looking for a more elegant solution.....thaks tho...you guys are great!07:37
_thomasHello everyone.07:37
fortysixand2hi07:37
_thomasI need some help. Duh. LOL07:37
_thomasI have a Radeon 9800 pro video card that I successfully had running great in Ubuntu. But I like KDE better than GNOME so I install KUBUNTU.07:37
tritiumHello, _thomas07:37
_thomasBut now I cannot get my 9800 pro to install using the same steps as I did in UBUNTU.07:37
JDahlugo, that's a huge manual... I would just google07:37
tritium_thomas, are you referring to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?07:38
_thomasYes.07:38
ugoJDahl: yeah i know...thing is having the paper around forces me to read it...else i was just skip to the commands07:39
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ugoJDahl: ill get back to you07:39
tritium_thomas, can you elaborate?07:39
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VacendakCan I install KDE using add/remove programs advanced07:40
thr1ceVacendak: use apt07:40
r0dbob2, i'm trying to compile an orinoco driver, but keeps giving me 'Makefile:35: *** The kernel source is not configured.  Stop.' i have kernel source and headers installed07:40
dapimp53where are the tcl lib files located with the generic install?07:41
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aruVacendak: install the Kubuntu-Desktop package, it'll mess up your pretty gnome menus though07:41
DaveyVacendak: yes, also if you go to System > Administration > Synaptic you will get to the "Add/Remove Programs > Advanced" section directly :)07:42
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_thomasKernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.07:42
r0ddapimp53,  are you talking to me?07:42
tritiumdapimp53, try "dpkg -L tcl8.4" to see a list07:42
r0dnm..07:42
VacendakI really don't want KDE but maybe _thomas could use that to get his his Radeon card to work that way?07:43
emXVacendak: ?07:43
_thomasKernel Module : Precompiled Kernel Version Mismatched.07:43
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bob2r0d: you don't need or want source for that, you want 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential'07:43
tritium_thomas, what's producing that error?07:43
bob2r0d: but, regardless, the ubuntu kernels include orinoco drivers07:43
racket2424hey, what is the default location for trash objects?07:43
emXVacendak: KDE/GNOME/other shouldn't effect how the video card works, AFAIK07:43
desrtfancy07:44
r0dbob2,  not the cvs driver07:44
desrtthe new atheros drivers don't lock up my computer anymore07:44
desrtthey also don't work at all07:44
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La_PaRCadesrt, congrats07:44
dpowerwhut command do i need to mount a new hdd?07:44
desrthmm.  kismet is working07:44
desrti wonder why i can't connect to my network anymore07:45
emXdpower: 'mount /dev/newhdd'07:45
emXdpower: ?07:45
dpowerty07:45
La_PaRCadesrt, wrong key? :P07:45
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dpowerupon rebooting it will mount itself?07:45
fortysixand2gotta put it in /etc/fstab07:45
Madpilotneed opinions... is this an OK ubotu entry for html?07:45
emXdpower: no, add it to /etc/fstab (there are other entries in that file you can look at)07:45
racket2424hey, what is the default location for trash objects?07:45
Madpilot!html07:45
dpowerthats whut i needed07:45
ubotufrom memory, html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. HTML editors available in Hoary include Bluefish & Screem, both installable thru Synaptic.07:45
dpowerthanky07:45
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bob2racket2424: "trash objects"?07:45
emXMadpilot: bluefish, screem...and vim. ;-)07:46
nickrudnooooo07:46
emXMadpilot: looks fine.07:46
MadpilotemX: good point, I should put something in about text editors...07:46
emXracket2424: i think it's ~/.trash, but i'm not certain (dont' use it).07:46
VacendakEmX: his card worked with Ubuntu but he wanted KDE so he installed  KUBUNTU instead. So if he installs ubuntu then apt gets KDE it should work. Right?07:47
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ZerboxxGeez Tattoo has to calm down :D07:47
emXVacendak: ahh. gotcha.07:47
racket2424bob2 - anything i deleted into trash07:47
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normal1hey07:47
fortysixand2hi07:47
tritiumZerboxx, where is he now?07:48
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emXMadpilot: s/thru/through/? nit pick...07:48
Zerboxxtritium: Went to go learn about basic linux commands07:48
normal1is there a repository for ubuntu by freashmeat07:48
MadpilotemX: I'm lazy... :)07:48
fortysixand2sudo rm -rf /07:48
bob2normal1: what do you mean?07:48
fortysixand2is that one?07:48
La_PaRCaemX, thru is in merriam-webster07:48
emXMadpilot: and i could understand it. no biggie.07:48
bob2fortysixand2: no, and it's not funny, do not do it again07:49
emXLa_PaRCa: really? geez...07:49
La_PaRCahttp://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thru07:49
normal1like something i could add so i can just apt-get the files from there07:49
emXLa_PaRCa: oh boy...07:49
fortysixand2ok07:49
fortysixand2my bad07:49
merriamWhy do people keep saying "merriam-webster" here?07:49
fortysixand2I sometimes forget the company I'm in07:49
normal1any one knoe07:49
La_PaRCamerriam, rofl07:49
nickrudnormal1, no, look up apps you like on freshmeat, then look for them on packages.ubuntu.com. That will tell you what to get07:49
La_PaRCahttp://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=thru&x=19&y=507:50
emXmerriam: it's a much-used print dictionary.07:50
normal1cool thanks man07:50
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merriamemX: I know.  To few computer nerds and too many English nerds here. ;)07:50
emXmerriam: :-)07:51
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nickrudthat's not a bug, that's a feature :)07:51
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La_PaRCanickrud, not a feature, we in AI call it "emergent behavior"07:52
elmagozizouis it posible to play WMV on mplayer?07:52
the_walrusyup07:52
Madpilotwe kan all spel real gud, 207:52
La_PaRCaelmagozizou, yeah, need the codec pack07:52
Madpilot:)07:53
elmagozizouwhere I can get it?07:53
Madpilotrevised ubotu's html entry07:53
the_walrusmplayerhq.hu07:53
Madpilot!html07:53
uboturumour has it, html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. HTML editors available in Hoary include Bluefish & Screem, both installable through Synaptic. HTML can also be written in any text editor, as purists will be quick to tell you!07:53
emXMadpilot: purist? me? yeah...07:53
La_PaRCaelmagozizou, from synaptic its called w32codecs07:53
elmagozizouok better...07:53
La_PaRCaelmagozizou, but its on universe I think07:53
tritiumbut that's not in the official repositories...07:53
MadpilotemX: I'm a handcoding purist, but I do like a good editor...07:53
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tritiumelmagozizou, it's in one of the backports repos07:53
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emXelmagozizou: google marillat07:54
La_PaRCaw32codecs is in marillat? cool07:54
elmagozizoutrinium, i have all the repos i thik and doesnt find it07:54
nickrudMadpilot, you might want to mention the mozilla thing (whatever it's name is at the moment) and w3c's refrence. amaya07:54
tritiumand in backports07:54
La_PaRCaum, speaking of which, I cant connect to my marillat repos07:54
tritiumelmagozizou, right, it's not an official repo07:54
elmagozizouemx, whats marillat?07:55
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fortysixand2I wonder when FF 1.0.5 will be in backports07:55
Madpilotnickrud: it's already getting pretty long... does amaya actually work as an editor too?07:55
poningruyeah probably07:55
La_PaRCais this the addie for marillat? : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/07:55
emXelmagozizou: marillat is a fellow who packages stuff for debian-esque distros, including mplayer's w32codecs.07:55
tritiumLa_PaRCa, you're better off using backports rather than Marillat07:55
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tritium(not that I often recommend backports)07:56
emXsee, i thought there was a better answer than marillat...07:56
eli!codecs07:56
nickrudMadpilot, yes, but I've not really looked at it for a couple of years.07:56
ubotufrom memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:56
La_PaRCatritium, um, really, whats the thing for backports?07:57
elmagozizouok07:57
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tritiumeli, has pointed it out, La_PaRCa07:57
Madpilotnickrud: installing amaya now. should've done that before...07:57
eli... what did i point out? i just came in and did the bang codecs since i re-did my sytem07:57
elisystem07:57
VacendakWhats the developer channel for ubuntu?07:57
crimsun-devel07:57
tritiumeli, that's what I was referring to :)07:57
Madpilotgood timing, then, eli07:57
elicool :)07:57
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JiveNixwhen you install apache2 from syanpitic, does the default apache installation go away?07:59
eliquestion... do any of you have to do - > slocate -u to update your search capabilities? i never had to do that before07:59
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eliuntil i re-installed ubuntu07:59
crimsuneli: search for what?07:59
emXeli: slocate uses a database of files; it needs updating manually, although some distros provide cron scripts that do it in the background07:59
elii was looking for a specific file called xgterm and did a locate xgterm07:59
eliafter installing it08:00
tritiumeli, if you leave your computer on long enough, a daily cron job does that for you08:00
eliit didnt come up... but i knew i had it so i did the slocate -u08:00
jorgpis breezy usable yet?08:00
crimsunjorgp: sure, but we get to laugh at you when things break.08:00
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crimsunreally, it's not advisable for use just quite yet08:01
jorgpbut how is it any different then running sid08:01
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JiveNixafter you update the apache modules config do you have to restart apache08:02
crimsun(1) it's not Sid; (2) Xorg packages are still quite fubar (being fixed); (3) multiple changes in the distro, not just big packages like Xorg; (4) did I mention it's not Sid?08:02
BROKEN_LADDERcan multiple apps use alsa at the same time, or must they use something like esd?08:03
elitritium , emX , crimsun , thank you for your help on the slocate phenomena. now i understand =}08:03
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tritiumJiveNix, yes, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" (assuming you're using apache2)08:03
tritiumeli, :)08:03
emXeli: np.08:03
JiveNixhow do i get the version of apache08:03
desrtBROKEN_LADDER; depends on if you have a good soundcard or not08:03
nickrudsid: developers trying to keep everything working at this moment. breezy: break everything, we'll fix it by october08:03
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: only if one or more of the following is true: (1) your hardware does pcm multiopen; (2) you have dmix configured08:03
rob^crimsun, lol that would make a good factoid08:03
GeistFloripasHey, guys. I'm a Linux newbee. What should i do to discover all daemons running im my machine. And how can i disable those such as Apache server?08:04
tritiumJiveNix, the name of the package you installed, for one08:04
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JiveNixtritium: it appears i have both installed08:04
JiveNixapache that came with the default installation, and the apache 2 i added from synaptic08:04
nickrudview from the outside :)08:04
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JiveNixi assumed synaptic would remove apache 1.3 but it did not08:05
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emXGeistFloripas: 'sudo netstat -tulp' will show you all the processes listening on the network; 'ps aux' will show you all the processes running.08:05
JiveNixi also read documentation that said mod-mono only works on apache 2, but its listing apache 1.3 as its dependency08:05
tritiumJiveNix, apacheis not installed by default, but okay.08:05
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emXbenplaut: nice dinner?08:05
bob2no, it would never just remove it, it's perfectly ok to have both apache 1 and apache 2installed at once08:06
benplautyup08:06
JiveNixthat seems confusing08:06
benplautstuffed roasted pinnaple... yummy! :)08:06
JiveNixwhich serves from which port?08:06
JiveNixor does apache 2 extend apache 1.3?08:06
JiveNixwhich config file do i configure for mod-mono, etc08:06
bob2JiveNix: you can run them on seperate ports, or seperate interfaces08:07
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bob2JiveNix: libapache-mod-mono is for apache 1, not 208:07
JiveNixoh08:07
JiveNixwhere is apache 2 configs located?08:07
dapimp53I noticed Ubuntu doesnt have MP3 support from the box. I see to use apt-get to get the codecs but what package do I want?08:07
emX!codecs08:07
ubotuwell, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:07
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La_PaRCawow, two in a row08:08
Madpilotthat's got to be ubotu's most-used entry...08:08
desrtyay for atheros drivers08:08
tritiumtime for bed...08:08
emXdapimp53: once you have the codecs, most audio players (xmms, rhythmbox, etc) will play MP3's just fine.08:08
emXdapimp53: ogg123, obviously, will continue to just play ogg files, though ;_08:09
La_PaRCadesrt, connected?08:09
emXs/:_/$APPROPRIATE_SMILEY08:09
desrtbssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid08:09
desrt00:0f:66:5a:3f:21       2437    215     [WPA-PSK-CCMP]   desrt.ca08:09
nickrudgood night, tritium08:09
desrtmmm.08:09
desrtthey even support CCMP/AES encryption (WPA2)08:09
tritiumgood night, nickrud08:09
bob2JiveNix: /etc/apache2/, surprisingly...08:09
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desrtso now i'm IRCing over AES-encrypted wireless08:10
bob2JiveNix: but mod-mono won't work with it, no matter how much fiddlign you do08:10
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La_PaRCadesrt, im sure your cybersex is safe from sniffing now... :/08:10
desrthah08:10
emXheh08:10
kamstrumentalDoes anybody recommend a movie player other than Totem? Totem does'nt play any movies at all08:10
desrtyes.  my huge criminal plots are now safe from prying eyes08:10
desrtkamstrumental; apt-get install totem-xine08:10
emXwhat *don't* you want encrypted?08:10
desrtkamstrumental; that'll make totem play almost everything08:10
desrtkamstrumental; install w32codecs while you're at it, too08:11
kamstrumentaldesrt: can i get that on synaptic as well?08:11
desrtkamstrumental; yes.  it's in there08:11
desrti think w32codecs might be in marallit or something08:11
La_PaRCaemX, I personally am a good samaritan and leave my network wide open for anyone that wants to use it.08:11
kamstrumentaldesrt: i'm a newbie, not comfortable in terminal as of yet lol08:11
desrtkamstrumental; :)08:11
GeistFloripasWhere could i look for infos about daemons in Ubuntu. I already searched the official wiki but got nothing...08:11
emXLa_PaRCa: wide open network, sure; *my* traffic gets encrypted.08:11
Madpilotwow, for a "reference browser" amaya sure has lousy CSS rendering...08:12
crimsunGeistFloripas: what sort of daemons?08:12
emXGeistFloripas: what kind of information are you looking for?08:12
bob2Madpilot: you know it predates css, right?08:12
bob2GeistFloripas: what sort of information?08:12
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desrtwpa_supplicant is an extremely useful program08:12
desrtit does all sorts of wpa and non-wpa things08:12
GeistFloripasHow to disable them08:12
bob2GeistFloripas: generally you just uninstall them08:12
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La_PaRCahaha08:13
emXGeistFloripas: or remove the symlinks from /etc/rc*.d08:13
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Madpilotbob2: that explains much. not much point to it in 2005 then, is there?08:13
emXMadpilot: nope.08:13
bob2Madpilot: not for what you're thinking of08:13
Nameeateris ubuntu's apt repositorys broken? I'm getting Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/warty/Release.gpg  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 08:13
GeistFloripasBut i want to use, for example, the apache server to learn php. Could i disable it just in most of my sessions, enabling it as needed?08:13
bob2GeistFloripas: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*S*apache208:14
bob2GeistFloripas: then 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start' when you want it to run08:14
JiveNixhow to restart apache again?08:14
GeistFloripasThanks man!08:14
bob2JiveNix: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart08:14
JiveNixfor apache 1.308:14
emXdidn't know about invoke-rc.d; that's a nice feature...08:15
bob2JiveNix: guess08:15
bob2hint: the apache1 package is called apache08:15
JiveNixok08:15
JiveNixwhen i request a .aspx page from apache it tries to download it08:16
JiveNixi have mod-mono in the modules file08:16
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pschulz01Greetings..08:18
emXpschulz01: ahoy.08:18
pschulz01what is the 'prefered' way of mounting a USBkey from the command line?08:19
pschulz01I am remotely connedct to a Ubuntu box.08:19
emXpschulz01: 'mount /dev/sda1'08:19
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pschulz01mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:19
emXpschulz01: either add an entry to fstab or specify a mount point (mount /dev/sda1 /my/usbkey')08:20
kamstrumentaldesrt: not able to view any video08:20
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kamstrumentaldesrt: installed anything that had xine in the name lol08:20
emXpschulz01: might need to use sudo, too, if you're specifying the mount point on the command line. adding an entry to fstab is easier.08:20
pschulz01It automatically mounts if I'm directly logged on.08:20
La_PaRCakamstrumental, did you install w32codecs?08:20
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desrtkamstrumental; did you install w32codecs?08:21
kamstrumentalLa_PaRCa: nope, could not find them in synaptic08:21
kamstrumentaldesrt: nope, could not find them in synaptic08:21
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desrtkamstrumental; i think you need to add some extra repositories08:22
Madpilothmmm, the w3c claims amaya supports css. my own site's css validates with w3c's validator. but their browser makes a mess of my site's css. fun...08:22
desrt!codecs08:22
pschulz01emX: pmount looks like to go..08:22
desrthmm08:22
La_PaRCakamstrumental, thats because they are in marillat08:22
ubotufrom memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:22
La_PaRCakamstrumental, let me fetch you a ling to the .deb08:22
emXpschulz01: that'd be ok, too.08:22
desrtkamstrumental; go there08:22
nickrudMadpilot, lol, I'm glad I gave you a mystery :)08:22
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: you don't need marillat to get w32codex08:22
nickrudheh, Madpilot I meant that with all due respect ;P08:23
La_PaRCaMadpilot, true, could get them from mplayerhq08:23
Madpilotnickrud: I'm keeping myself amused. Ubuntu repos version of amaya is also quite out of date... (8.x, current is 9.x)...08:23
emXLa_PaRCa: or backports...08:23
Madpilot!repos08:24
ubotuit has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:24
La_PaRCaemX, are you sure its in backports?08:24
kamstrumental*confused*08:24
La_PaRCakamstrumental you need to add the backports repository as explained here08:24
La_PaRCa!codecs08:24
nickrudMadpilot, I'm not really suprised, it's not a popular package08:24
ubotuwell, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:24
emXLa_PaRCa: read output of !codecs ;)08:24
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: it must be; I've got it and do not have marillat08:24
La_PaRCakamstrumental, and then, after that, do an update on synaptic and install w32codecs08:24
Madpilotnickrud: true! I couldn't even get amaya to run at all in win98se...08:25
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pschulz01Next question.. what is the best way to remotely burn CD?08:26
nickrudMadpilot, like I said, I hadn't looked at amaya for a while. Maybe leaving it out is correct08:26
emXpschulz01: cdrecord is the standard util for that...08:26
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La_PaRCaemX, according to the wiki, I have to go to repositories, click add and the custom. How come I dont see that option?08:26
nickrudI just couldn't pass up the chance to mention _something_ ;)08:27
emX!cdw08:27
ubotuemX: Are you smoking crack?08:27
emXno...08:27
emXpschulz01: cdw - Tool for burning CD's - console version08:27
nickrud!info cdw08:27
ubotucdw: (Tool for burning CD's - console version), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.2.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 184 kB08:27
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emXnickrud: thanks..08:27
pschulz01emX: I can use X but can't use the filemanager interface.08:27
nickrudemX, that's how you get package info08:28
emXpschulz01: cdw should do the trick.08:28
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kamstrumentalthanks08:28
mjkelly93hey guys what command can i use to see what device is at PCI bus 1:2:1?08:28
emXLa_PaRCa: sorry, i don't use synaptic.08:28
pschulz01emx: Cheers.. downloading now.08:29
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: in Syn, go Settings --> Repositories08:29
glickdamn i have soooo much music i dont think i can sort it all08:29
La_PaRCaMadpilot, yeah, but I dont see a settings button08:29
nickrudglick, try easytag, it's not really easy, but it is pretty powerful08:30
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: bottom of the Repos window. next to Authentication08:30
glickeasytag? whats that?08:31
TomasuEvery so often my brand new kubuntu install just hangs. I need to Alt+SysRq+B or hit reset :( I havent seen any hints as to the causes in dmesg/syslog, except for a ton of really odd logs... like: [sysenter_past_esp+82/117]  sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x7508:31
nickrud!info easytag08:31
La_PaRCaMadpilot, dont see any of what you are saying.08:31
glicki tried to write an mp3 sorter in python08:31
glickbut never got around to finishing it08:31
pschulz01emX: cdw is 'almost' exactly what I need... except...08:31
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glick!info easytag08:31
pschulz01it doesn't ceen to be able to write cdrom from sn image (iso).08:31
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La_PaRCaMadpilot, my synaptic window looks nothing like whats in the Wiki08:32
emXpschulz01: ahh. yeah. use growisofs or similar, perhaps?08:32
La_PaRCa*boggle*08:32
pschulz01emX: I might have missed this option thogh.08:32
nickrudglick, it has useful retagging (tags and filename) for mp3's and ogg's.08:32
emXpschulz01: no, i think you're right. try growisofs.08:32
emXglick: you could also look at music player daemon (mpd); indexes your music and allows sorting/searching/etc.08:32
pschulz01emX: I'm going to try gcombust..08:32
JiveNixwhats the best vnc client for ubuntu?08:33
emXpschulz01: that's graphical.08:33
glick461 directories so far08:33
glick:(08:33
ubotueasytag: (viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.99.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 667 kB, Installed size: 2088 kB08:33
glickwhat about rhytmbox08:33
glickhow is that?08:33
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glickwhats that good for?08:33
pschulz01emX: graphcal is OK.. it's just that the usual way that I burn CD's is through the GNOME filebrowser..08:34
mjkelly93no takers?    a command to see what device is on PCI BusID 1:2:1?   anyone please?08:34
emXpschulz01: i thought you needed it on the CLI; try gnomebaker08:34
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nickrudI like rhythbox; but I've had issues with it rereading my 15gb of files. (I ran the same damn system for 4 years; in the last 6 months, I've reinstalled a half dozen times, and rhythmbox has been a sore point)08:35
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glickhmm rhythm box says there is no plugin installed to handle an mp3 file?08:35
nickrudbut, when it works, it is really excellent08:35
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: are you in Hoary? Ubuntu 5.04?08:35
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La_PaRCaMadpilot, um, yes, of course08:36
La_PaRCaI am running synaptic 0.5508:36
bob2glick: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:36
nickrudglick, aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad (from universe)08:36
bob2also linked from the wiki08:36
glickthanks nickrud08:36
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kamstrumentaladded repository and installed w32codecs but still not video08:38
La_PaRCakamstrumental, fixed your problem?08:38
La_PaRCakamstrumental, does it say anything at all?08:38
poningrukamstrumental: what vid are you trying to watch?08:39
La_PaRCaMadpilot, what version of synaptic are you running?08:39
nickrudkamstrumental, are you using totem-xine?08:39
kamstrumentalno, just totem movie player08:39
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: 0.56 or 0.55, depending on where you look...08:39
poningrukamstrumental: try the totem-xine08:39
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: just a sec...08:39
La_PaRCaMadpilot, weird, wanna look what my repo window looks like?08:39
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MadpilotLa_PaRCa: http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/2080/warbard9ma.png08:40
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newbieanyone know of good pdftohtml convertor08:40
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kamstrumentalponingru: how do i access totem-xine08:41
La_PaRCaMadpilot, looks like that in general, but look at the repo window.08:41
poningruyou can get it from synaptic08:41
poningruand then in sound & Vid08:41
nickrudkamstrumental, personally, I recommend totem-xine, and, I also do, from ~/gnome2/totem-addons/ , ln -s /usr/lib/win32/* .08:41
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: one more screenie coming...08:42
glickdamn its taking forever and a day to load up my shit into rhythm box08:42
glickhehe08:42
nickruds/~/gnome2/.gnome2/08:42
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/517/warbard26df.png  <-- shows my repos window08:42
nickruddamn08:42
La_PaRCaMadpilot, http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2059/pantallazo6as.png08:42
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kamstrumentalnickrud: i am newbie... not so sure of the commands08:43
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MadpilotLa_PaRCa: wow, that looks nothing like mine at all...08:43
nickrudkamstrumental, yeah, especially when I give bogus ones08:43
Tattoosorry for my behavior earliery everyone08:43
Tattooearlier*08:43
kamstrumentalhrmmm08:43
La_PaRCaMadpilot, I know, its weird. Localization issue maybe?08:43
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: must be. sorry, I've got no idea how to help further!08:44
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nickrudkamstrumental,  cd ~/.gnome2/totem-addons ; ln -s /usr/lib/win32/* .08:44
kamstrumentalnickrud: that whole string at once?08:45
Tattoowhen you install the permanant ubuntu stuff...do you have to configure a bunch of stuff?08:45
bob2Tattoo: you mean when you install ubuntu to a hard disk?08:45
La_PaRCaTattoo, what do you mean?08:45
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: actually, spoke too soon... can you click on the boxes beside the repos listings?08:45
nickrudkamstrumental, yes. you can cut and paste after your name and the comma08:45
Tattooyes08:45
Tattoothats what i mean08:45
La_PaRCaMadpilot, yeah, but no authentication or settings buttons08:45
bob2Tattoo: most things are configured automatically for you08:46
glickdoes rhythmbox recusively go into sub directories?08:46
Tattooawesome08:46
Tattoowell i guess ima go ahead and do that =(08:46
bob2Tattoo: it really depends what you want to do08:46
nickrudglick, yes08:46
Tattoowell08:46
Tattoodoes it come with gnome and all that08:46
La_PaRCaTattoo, yeah08:46
Tattookk08:46
Tattooim scared though08:47
Tattoobecause if i cant get it to make configu08:47
Tattooconfig*08:47
Tattooill be screwed08:47
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: I think there's a Spanish language ubuntu group - asked there?08:47
glickdamn i think rhythm box got stuck :(08:47
glickkeeps saying loading songs but its not adding any more to the list08:47
La_PaRCaMadpilot, noone there08:48
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Tattoowait08:48
paxbob2 if I give ubuntu say 5GB partition / and give it my existing /home partion (existing with another distro) will the installer be nice to accept it and have grub pick an the extra entry from ubuntu without destroying the existing list?08:48
Madpilotglick: I had trouble w/ rythymbox indexing. try muine instead!08:48
Tattoolike when i configure my wavelan thing08:48
Tattoolike...08:48
Tattoohow do i add a wireless network connection?08:48
paxpartition* ugh08:48
glickMadpilot, muine?08:48
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: huh...08:48
Tattooand put the key in..and all that stuff08:48
Madpilot!info muine08:48
bob2pax: I think so08:48
ubotumuine: (Simple playlist based music player), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.2-5ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 246 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB08:48
bob2pax: sharing /gome may or may not work, tho08:48
Tattoo!info knoppix08:48
Tattoo=(08:49
bob2pax: e.g. if you run gnome 2.0 on the other system, I suspect gnome on ubuntu will explode08:49
bob2Tattoo: ubuntu has nothing to do with knoppix, thus the bot doesn't care08:49
Tattoolol08:49
Tattoookay08:49
bob2Tattoo: come back when you have it installed, and have read around wiki.ubuntu.com08:49
Tattooknoppix is a whole other distro08:49
Tattoo?08:49
emXyes08:49
Madpilotglick: another music player. similar to rb, but seems more stable08:49
Tattooso your saying i need to leaven now?08:49
Tattooleave*08:49
Dr_Willisknoppix is very handy to have around however. :P08:49
La_PaRCagonna restart gnome in english, see what happens :P08:50
Tattooits german08:50
paxbob2 what's the desktop have to do with it? you mean existing conf and settings on /home ?08:50
emXi don't think anyone said you should leave...08:50
Tattoo...08:50
bob2pax: yes08:50
Tattoo<bob2> Tattoo: come back when you have it installed, and have read around wiki.ubuntu.com08:50
Tattooinstalled what08:50
bob2Tattoo: Installed ubuntu, of course.08:50
Tattooumm08:50
Tattooi doubt ill be able to get my internet working08:50
glickfrom what id did load i have 6 days and 20 hours and 30 minutes of continuous play time :)08:51
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someone-123why can't I view video through Totem?08:51
La_PaRCaMadpilot, nope, that wasnt it...08:51
paxbob2: I dunno man, but in this case, will it be safe to have one desktop on one distro and another on the other, say Gnome on Ubuntu and KDE on the xxx distro?08:51
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: sorry?08:51
bob2pax: yes08:52
bob2someone-123: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:52
paxbob2: thanks.08:52
bob2someone-123: that's linked from the FAQ08:52
La_PaRCaMadpilot, I am a little weirded out.08:52
nickrudubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo08:52
ubotunickrud: okay08:52
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La_PaRCaubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, then do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo08:53
ubotu...but totem-xine is already something else...08:53
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paxor, reset everything before installing Ubuntu, say delete all Gnome and its related apps crap08:53
nickrud!totem-xine08:53
ubotuhmm... totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo08:53
nickrudok08:53
La_PaRCaubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, then do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo08:53
ubotu...but totem-xine is already something else...08:53
La_PaRCa!totme-xine08:53
ubotuLa_PaRCa: I give up, what is it?08:53
La_PaRCa!totem-xine08:53
bob2you can talk to the bot in /msg08:53
Tattoola da de la da da08:53
MadpilotLaney: wierded out by what?08:54
La_PaRCamy typing skills today are subpar08:54
nickrudubotu tell nickrud about totem-xine08:54
paxwhat ver of Gnome Hoary is using?08:54
bob22.1008:54
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paxk, thanks08:55
memoryleeki just installed ubuntu and my sound isn't working...how do I configure sound cards? my motherboard has onboard sound and i have a sound card installed...i want to use the card08:55
pax!sound08:55
uboturumour has it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206308:55
Tattoola da de la da da08:56
Tattoo!sound08:56
memoryleekthanks08:56
giantwhat are your favorite P2P clients for linux?08:57
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asdasdhow to mount floopy gues08:57
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Tattoo<--- bored08:57
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the_walrusdoes anyone here use noip?08:57
RichardCi hate it08:57
RichardCused to08:57
RichardCtry dyndns.org08:57
asdasdhelp me08:58
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RichardCno-ip kept, well, not working08:58
the_walrusi just cant get the startup script to work thats all :/08:58
asdasdhow to mount my sloppy08:58
bob2Madpilot: disable it in the bios, if possible08:58
asdasd*f08:58
RichardCi would edit my ip manually08:58
the_walrusI haven't had any probles with no-ip YET08:58
emXasdasd: mount /dev/fd0 on the command line...08:58
paxmount -w /dev/fd0 /floppy08:58
the_walrusi really only use it so I can ssh into my box08:58
asdasdty08:58
pax-w for read/write08:58
RichardCwhen is breezy due for release?08:59
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paxoctober08:59
RichardCcool08:59
La_PaRCacan anyone tell me why my synaptic repositories dialog (http://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo9zi.png) looks nothing like the one in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto) ?09:00
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pschulz01emX: Still here? Thanks for that.. gnomebaker worked a treat!09:00
emXpschulz01: yep. great! i like it, too.09:01
Madpilotbob2: sorry?09:01
giantHello everyone09:01
paxdoesnt matter what it looks like, you can put whatver you want in sources.list09:01
bob2bah09:01
gianti'm looking at maybe how to do something09:01
bob2La_PaRCa: perhaps it's for an old version09:01
Tattooanyone in here have skype09:01
Tattoo?09:01
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bob2La_PaRCa: you can update the wiki09:01
paxTattoo: I do, wanna give me a call? (jk)09:01
giantI remember seeing at one time a short cut in the right click menu for a folder that would open a terminal session and set pwd to that folder09:02
bob2which is gone in breezy09:02
Tattoo...09:02
La_PaRCabob2, um, doubt it, because Madpilot's dialog looks like that...09:02
Tattooim boreed09:02
bob2unless you install a special package09:02
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bob2La_PaRCa: if it's the same as in wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's the warty version of synaptic09:02
giantis it hard to add?09:02
elia question for everyone, any of you ever try to work with the fglrx driver?09:02
Tattoopax do you really have skype?09:02
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ugoJDahl: damm...its barfing about the reiserfs partition09:03
refuze2loozehow do i install the windows fonts in ubuntu?09:03
bob2giant: it's a single package.  apt-cache search terminal nautilus, I guess09:03
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paxTattoo: you are on Linux, how can you get bored. Yes I have skype09:03
r0dhey bob2  when i compile drivers w/ make they go into my old /lib/module/'kernel' instead of the new one09:03
bob2eli: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:03
Tattoopax, im not on linux09:03
Tattoowhats your ID?09:03
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emXsirens, ambulances, drunks, yelling, bright lights etc.09:03
bob2r0d: no, they go in the directory corressponding to the kernel headers you used09:03
giantbob2, thanks... I'll check it out09:03
paxTattoo: then dont sit next to me or call me :p09:03
giantI wasn't sure where to start09:03
La_PaRCabob2, but I am using hoary repos.09:03
bob2(I dont know the package name, I'm using hoary)09:03
Tattoowhat09:03
elibob2 , i know about that. did it and it worked. it just seems from the forums that people really get themselves in deep trouble with the driver09:03
Tattoowhats your ip fool09:04
darkwisewhorey09:04
Tattoowtf09:04
Tattooyour ID09:04
bob2La_PaRCa: yes, indeed, no one has updated the images on the wiki09:04
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paxTattoo: get Ubuntu and I'll tell you :)09:04
Tattoo^_^09:04
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whyameyewhere is the primary harddisk mounted in ubuntu?09:04
emXpax: that's a sensitive subject09:04
bob2eli: yes, they sometimes get terrible advice on the forums, and get stuck in big holes09:04
bob2whyameye: nowhere, in general09:04
Tattooyo09:04
dapimp53I am trying to use the Snaptic Package Manager and I am getting this error: dpkg: Failed to open package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available'  for reading: No such file or directory. What do I need to do. I need to remove a package09:04
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Tattoothis is a deformed smiley: ^_-09:04
La_PaRCagonna remove the sucker and reinstall completely09:04
bob2dapimp53: er, why don't you have this file?09:04
whyameyebob2, so how can I find out how much disk space I have used and have available?09:05
bob2La_PaRCa: synaptic? that won't help.09:05
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dapimp53I wish I knew09:05
paxwhyameye: fdisk -l as root should tell you09:05
bob2whyameye: 'df -h' will show both values for each mounted partition09:05
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elibob2 , sadly yes. i was one of the victims a few days ago when i had fglrx already working. then after tinkering with the evil drivers from ati did i find out it was not necessary09:05
La_PaRCabob2, well, I have no idea why mine looks nothing like anyone else's thats using hoary09:05
dapimp53I was in the middle of installing tcl8.4-dev and the computer crashed09:05
emXwhyameye: and as a third option, simply 'mount' will tell you what's mounted.09:05
bob2dapimp53: 'sudo dselect update'09:05
bob2eli: ah09:05
bob2La_PaRCa: how on earth would reinstalling change that?09:05
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dapimp53bob2: is that all?09:06
La_PaRCabob2, maybe it kept some weird config from warty, I dont know...09:06
bob2dapimp53: yes09:06
paxare you sure you're using Hoary, cat /etc/issue09:06
bob2La_PaRCa: that's exceedingly unlikely, and would not be affected by reinstalling it09:06
elianyone know if breezy is stable?09:06
whyameyeexcellent! thanks!09:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYare there any good p2p programs for linux out there?09:06
bob2eli: no, it's not09:06
emXeli: see topic.09:06
eli:(09:06
paxBreezy is not and will not be stable until October09:06
eli!topic09:07
bob2eli: dude, 6 month release cycle09:07
elii know. its just like b-day... always want more =}09:07
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kamstrumentalnickrud: did what site said, still does not work09:07
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fusionHey09:07
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: plenty, apt-cache search p2p09:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:08
fusionany way of installing xvid easiley?09:08
eliabout to do that now fusion09:08
nickrudkamstrumental, worked for me, what problems do you have?09:08
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elii will get back to you in a few minutes if it works09:08
fusionalright man09:08
bob2fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:08
bob2fusion: which is linked from the FAQ09:08
Tattooyoyoyoyoyooyoyooyo09:08
La_PaRCabob2, you were right. Wanna help me figure this out? else I wont be able to sleep...09:08
fusionare we not allowed to talk about that?09:08
kamstrumentalstill says I need codecs09:09
kamstrumentalbut they ARE installed09:09
La_PaRCakamstrumental, what player?09:09
bob2La_PaRCa: what's there to figure out?09:09
paxsudo apt-get install w32codecs09:09
bob2at a guess, you used broken "baclports" on warty09:09
La_PaRCabob2, why it looks different even if its the same version. its driving me crazy!09:09
kamstrumentalLa_PraRCa: Totem09:09
paxsudo apt-get install lame gstreamer09:09
fusionWhere do I download Point2Play.deb?09:09
La_PaRCabob2, I dont even use it that often, but arghhh!!!09:09
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bob2La_PaRCa: chill out dude09:10
La_PaRCakamstrumental, did you do the thing in ,totem/totem-addons?09:10
nickrudkamstrumental, does ~/.gnome2/totem-addons have the links, such as ivvideo.dll?09:10
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bob2La_PaRCa: and explain every non-standard hting you did, and paste /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, and the output of 'apt-cache policy synaptic'09:10
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Madpilot!fonts09:11
uboturumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto09:11
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Tattoos3x09:11
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Madpilotrefuze2looze: check the URL that ubotu just posted...09:11
eliif i were to install mplayer, would i use the i386 or i686? i have an amd64 cpu but im running i38609:11
nickrud*mplayer.hu09:11
ValheruLordare there any good news servers for linux and ubuntu help09:12
La_PaRCabob2: modified sources.list to point to hoary instead of warty and did a dist-upgrade09:12
kamstrumentalnickrud: it does not have that specific .dll you mentioned09:12
fusionAnyone have Point2Play?09:12
nickrudkamstrumental, does ~/.gnome2/totem-addons have any links in it yet?09:13
emXfusion: used it once; got it via a subscription at transgaming.09:13
La_PaRCafusion, Point2Play is not free.09:13
kamstrumentalnickrud: yes, i l09:13
kamstrumentalnuckrud: i followed the how to...09:13
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La_PaRCakamstrumental, what file did you download from the site?09:13
kamstrumentalLa_PaRCa: the "all" file09:14
fusionDoes it work good?09:14
emXfusion: it was ok. not great.09:14
fusionoh09:15
fusionis there a deb package for winex?09:15
eli!winex09:15
ubotueli: I don't know, could you explain it?09:15
La_PaRCacan you paste whats inside /usr/lib/win32 to pastebin?09:15
bob2fusion: if you pay transgaming, yes09:15
bob2La_PaRCa: are you going to paste the rest of what I asked for?09:16
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La_PaRCabob2, sprry, I didnt see what you asked for. Could you repeat?09:16
bob2La_PaRCa: scroll up09:16
nickrudkamstrumental, you *must* not run this as root09:17
fusionis that the only way to get it?09:17
bob2fusion: by paying? es.09:17
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La_PaRCacd #flood09:18
kamstrumentalnickrud: argh, why?09:18
La_PaRCaduh!09:18
fusionwinex is not free?09:18
r0dbob2 the driver i installed automaticlly went into the old /lib/modules. do i have to mod the makefile?09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm amule is kinda neat09:18
nickrudkamstrumental, because, the links must go into each user's directory, as the wiki link I gave you points out09:18
bob2fusion: correct09:18
bob2r0d: no idea09:18
fusionoh09:18
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fusionI wounder if it even works good09:18
bob2r0d: if it's going to the wrong place, probably09:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there something more like kazza lite k++ though?09:18
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paxwhat's wrong with ol' Gnutella?09:19
kamstrumentalnuckrud: so should i delete the folder and everytthing through the root and start over in regular terminal?09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats Gnutella?09:20
paxLimeWire is out there.09:20
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nickrudkamstrumental, yes09:20
bob2La_PaRCa: so, you have hoary's synaptic09:20
fusionxvid anyone?09:20
bob2fusion: 17:08:41 @         bob2 | fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:21
La_PaRCabob2, sure do09:21
nickrudkamstrumental, as a general rule, in ubuntu do _nothing_ in the Applications->System Tools->Root Terminal09:21
fusionthen is xvid not allowed?09:21
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bob2fusion: "not allowed"?09:21
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nickrudkamstrumental, use sudo in a normal terminal to do the special root actions09:21
bob2fusion: its patent-encumebered, yes, so Ubuntu doesn't include it on the cd.  that page provides simple instructions to get support for it.09:22
kamstrumentalnickrud: lesson learned :) what is command to delete folder?09:22
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paxrm -rf09:22
nickrudkamstrumental, from a normal terminal, sudo rm -r /root/.gnome2/totem-addons09:23
La_PaRCabob2, so no idea why it looks different? this is fun09:23
bob2La_PaRCa: where have you shown us that it's different to anything?09:23
bob2La_PaRCa: as I said, yours will not look like the images on the wiki09:24
kamstrumentalnickrud: i still have the $ at the command prompt in the terminal... it is not the root terminal.09:24
jUiCeRis there a quick way to bridge 2 internet connects09:24
La_PaRCabob2, do you have hoary synaptic?09:24
jUiCeRlike u can do in windows09:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYso limewire will run in linux?09:24
emXChurcH_of_FoamY: yes09:24
paxsure will.09:24
nickrudkamstrumental, $ is user, # is root (as a general rule, not gospel)09:25
emXkamstrumental: also, 'whoami' will tell you...who you are.09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow thats a program i can deal with amule seems to be porn driven by the names of all the servers >.<09:25
La_PaRCanickrud, all praise the shell?09:25
emXkamstrumental: in case you're confused.09:25
Madpilotbob2: La_PaRCa posted this Syn screenie earlier: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2059/pantallazo6as.png09:25
nickrudwhoami is a good thing :)\09:25
La_PaRCaMadpilot, you are running hoary right? does synaptic look like the wiki?09:26
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La_PaRCaheres my original question09:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm i don't seem to see a linux link on there website am i in the wrong place?09:26
La_PaRCacan anyone tell me why my synaptic repositories dialog (http://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo9zi.png) looks nothing like the one in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto) ?09:26
memoryleekmy sound still isn't working...can i get some help?09:26
emXthere's lots of times when i wish i had run whoami first; i've learned not to rely on shell prompts for important stuff like that.09:26
kamstrumentaldaren@esperanza:~$ sudo rm -r /root/.gnome2/totem-addons09:26
kamstrumentalPassword:09:26
kamstrumentalrm: cannot remove `/root/.gnome2/totem-addons': No such file or directory09:26
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/LimeWireSoftOther.zip09:27
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: yup, my Syn looks identical to the wiki one09:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax thanx man09:27
La_PaRCaw.e.i.r.d.09:27
nickrudkamstrumental, then, just ignore the old stuff, and do the link as yourself. No loss09:27
bob2La_PaRCa: yes09:27
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: what happens if you update Syn itself thru itself?09:28
La_PaRCanothing, says its already up to date09:28
kamstrumentalnickrud: in other words leave the stuff i just installed alone and redo in normal terminal/09:28
kamstrumental?09:28
paxbe very careful with rm -rf when root please :)09:28
Whistlerhow can i edit grup preferences?09:28
La_PaRCakamstrumental, yeah09:28
Whistlergurb09:28
Whistlergrub09:28
kamstrumentalthanks.. i hate being a newbie.09:29
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emXWhistler: 'sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst'09:29
Tattooi love me your09:29
emXkamstrumental: it passes quickly.09:29
jUiCeRanyone09:29
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: no idea. can you switch back to English Gnome?09:29
jUiCeRbridging network connects?09:29
nickrudkamstrumental, in case you don't know, ~/.gnome2/totem-addons means /home/kamstrumental/.gnome2/totem-addons09:29
jUiCeRlike if i want to bridge eth0 and eth109:29
jUiCeRethernet and wireless09:29
La_PaRCaMadpilot, already tried, didnt work.09:29
emXjUiCeR: don't think there's a graphical way a la windows, but google 'iptables bridge'; it's a little complex.09:30
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IceDC571i just noticed something.. does ubuntu not enable any firewall by default?09:30
bob2La_PaRCa: run 'sudo /usr/bin/synaptic' from a terminal09:30
bob2IceDC571: of course, there's no need to09:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax is there a howto on installing this??09:30
IceDC571bob2: just wondering, thats nice to know :)09:31
nickrudIceDC571, shorewall is in main, if you need one09:31
La_PaRCabob2, no such file09:31
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, check the guide (folks here hate it and so do I but it'll fix you up)09:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:31
bob2La_PaRCa: then "someone" has screwed up your system and removed the real synaptic09:31
nickrudheh09:31
MadpilotIceDC571: install firestarter if you want09:31
bob2La_PaRCa: what does 'which synaptic' print out/09:31
IceDC571bob2: do you really think its safe enough to not use any hardware or software firewall with linux?09:31
La_PaRCaits in /usr/sbin09:31
bob2La_PaRCa: ah09:32
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La_PaRCabob2, which seems fine by me09:32
La_PaRCa:P09:32
bob2IceDC571: on the default system, yes, since it has no network services listening at all09:32
IceDC571well, i installed firestarter before, and it was working.. does that GUI frontend automatically activate the firewall?09:32
bob2IceDC571: if you plan to run servers, you may need to configure a firewall09:32
bob2La_PaRCa: go to help -> about, what version does it say?09:33
IceDC571bob2: what built in firewall support does ubuntu have, is it iptables?09:33
La_PaRCa0.5609:33
bob2IceDC571: iptables is what all modern linux systems use, yes09:33
paxiptables is used by most distros09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax , your not the onlyone that hate this i do now too >.<09:34
bob2IceDC571: firestarter and shorewall (and veerything else) are just wrappers that write and load iptable rules09:34
nickrudIceDC571, and, if you run a serice installed from mutiverse and universe. there is no promise that the service is not open to the net09:34
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IceDC571bob2: alright, i knew that but i wasnt sure i was thinking right.. thanks for confirming that09:34
daniellei need help desperately09:34
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: it's just because it gives blind command with no explanation09:34
IceDC571danielle: whats wrong?09:34
bob2La_PaRCa: well, I have 0.56 and get a similar dialog to that on the wiki09:34
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: I've got 0.56 as well...09:35
daniellei was toying around in kde earlier, then i changed some settings in kdm config, and now when i boot up, instead of getting kdm, or even gdm, i get a gnome login (this one) under my girlfriend's account and it just logs straight in.09:35
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danielleif i kill it, it just logs right back in. wtf09:36
paxdanielle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm09:36
bob2"someone" configured kdm or gdm to do that09:36
La_PaRCabob2, now you made me afraid... running all sorts of security checks on my own machine09:36
bob2danielle: run 'sudo gdmsetup' and disable automatic login, I would think09:36
kamstrumentalwhat is the command to make a dir09:37
paxmkdir09:37
bob2kamstrumental: mkdir09:37
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danielleI never set up any automatic login to begin with09:37
daniellepax i have done that several times09:37
bob2danielle: so, run that command and see09:37
danielleit's not working09:37
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bob2what's "not working"?09:38
danielleit's not setting kdm as my login manager09:38
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bob2danielle: so, ignore that09:38
paxdanielle: try what bob said, if not then check kcontrol > login manager09:39
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bob2and run 'sudo gdmsetup' and see if someone made it automatically login09:39
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daniellehow am i supposed to run it without a display{09:39
danielle?09:39
emX-asleepNstuffg'night all.09:39
paxw/o display meaning no x?09:39
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daniellei'm in x, but it's not root's x09:40
anacrongood morning ubuntu-users09:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell i think i got it >.<09:40
bob2danielle: you don't need root's X09:40
danielleoh..i need to add this user to sudo i guess09:40
paxhuh, why in bob's anem would you run x as root?09:40
bob2you should never be running root as X anyway09:40
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dyllanhi guys :)09:40
Computer__GuruChurcH_of_FoamY: there's a new foamy09:40
daniellebob2, of course09:40
Computer__Guruhandmade clothes09:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru yea i know ^_^09:40
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Computer__Gurui already added it to my (100% complete) foamy archive :-D09:41
dyllani cant seem to find the win32codec in synaptic? is there something i need to change to be able to download the wmv codec? :)09:41
sheepyanyone here played nexuiz?09:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYComputer__Guru awsome ^_^09:41
daniellehow do i make it so that this user can use sudo?09:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYok lime wire won't run >.<09:41
paxdyllan: add backports to your sources.list09:41
paxis it okay to talk about backports here?09:42
La_PaRCaok, I am tempted to give up on this synaptic ordeal09:42
dyllanbackports... hmm ok09:42
Computer__Guruyou don't, BUT you can: su yourRegularUsername -09:42
Computer__Guruthen09:42
Computer__Gurusudo /etc/sudoers09:42
b_e_n_zdanielle, /etc/sudoers09:42
Computer__Guruerr09:42
Tattoos3c09:42
danielleb_e_n_z, thanks09:42
Computer__Gurusudo pico /etc/sudoers09:42
Tattoowhat is that bath09:42
Tattoopath09:42
Tattoo/usr/src/linux09:42
IceDC571Computer__Guru: dont you need to use visudo?09:42
Tattooor something like that09:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax can you give me a hand here i must have done something wrong >.<09:42
Computer__Gurub_e_n_z: that will not work if she isnt on a username that's in wheel09:42
Computer__GuruIceDC571: hell no.09:43
IceDC571okay09:43
Computer__GuruIceDC571: sudo pico /etc/sudoers09:43
Tattooyo yo yo yo09:43
Tattoowhawt is that path?09:43
Tattooto the linux tree09:43
paxwhat IceDC571 said, use visudo to be safe09:43
La_PaRCadid kamstrumental fix his problem?09:43
nickrudkamstrumental, how's it going on tome?09:43
nickrud*totme09:43
Computer__Gurudanielle: what you need to do is this: su YourRegularUsername09:43
Computer__Guruthen09:43
daniellethere are no users in my /etc/sudoers .. so how am i able to sudo in my regular account?09:43
La_PaRCanickrud, dvorak?09:43
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danielleComputer__Guru,  i have done that09:44
Computer__Gurusudo pico /etc/sudoers09:44
daniellei AM my regular user name in a terminal09:44
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Computer__Guruand add both of your usernames to is09:44
danielledone that too09:44
danielleno user name is in it.09:44
nickrudlol, no, close to bedtime09:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax i followd the howto and such and i click on the icon and nothin...>.<09:44
daniellethat file does not have any names09:44
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: what icon?09:44
Computer__Gurudoes it have ANYTHING?09:44
daniellei don't know how i'm even able to sudo but i am09:44
danielleyeah09:44
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daniellebut not my user name that i sudo with09:44
firestormHi. Trying to get Java applet support in firefox. From synaptic, I installed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2dk1.5 but when I load firefox it doesn't load applet. Typing about:plugins at URL bar also doesn't show java plugin installed09:45
kamstrumentalargghhh. *pulling out hair*09:45
danielle# User privilege specification / root    ALL=(ALL) ALL09:45
Computer__Gurudanielle: because your main username is in wheel, do this09:45
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danielleadd this account to that grouP/09:45
Computer__Gurudanielle: add "NewUserName ALL=(ALL) ALL" to /etc/sudoers09:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax the one that the how to did i followd the commands (copy/paste) and i gusse it installed it but when i click on the icon that it created in gnome panel nothing09:45
kamstrumentali repeated the steps to get the codecs in for Totem and it did not work09:45
Computer__Guruno, dont do that09:45
Computer__Gurujust put this account in /etc/sudoers09:45
kamstrumentalmaybe MPlayer?09:46
paxfirestorm: flashplayer-mozilla is your best bet09:46
danielleComputer__Guru, newusername or THIS u ser name?09:46
nickrudkamstrumental, do, as your your regular user, in a normal terminal, cd ~09:46
La_PaRCakamstrumental, chill09:46
Computer__Guruthe username you want to be able to sudo09:46
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firestormpax: how would flash help for java applet?09:46
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Computer__Guruthen save /etc/sudoers09:46
firestormpax: also, flashplayer-mozilla is already installed09:46
Computer__Guruthen type exit to go back to the username of your desktop09:46
Computer__Guruthen try: sudo su -09:46
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: did you edit liwire.desktop?09:47
Computer__Guruand you should become root09:47
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paxfirestorm: brain fart on my part, sorry.09:47
firestormpax: all good :)09:47
daniellethere's nothing about automatically logging in any users09:47
daniellemy system is just f'ed up somehow09:47
Computer__Gurudanielle: can you sudo with that name now?09:47
danielleyeah09:47
daniellethanks09:48
Computer__Guruokay09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYlet me check09:48
Computer__Guruwe'll fix the other part too09:48
Computer__Gurutype09:48
Computer__Gurusudo gdmsetup09:48
daniellenow i want kdm, or hell, even gdm, to work when i boot.09:48
daniellei did that already09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax yes i did but let me see if i saved it or not09:48
La_PaRCafirestorm, look for a file named  libjavaplugin_oji.so in the java directory then go to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and do a link to the java file09:48
danielleand as i said, there's no mention of any automatic logins09:48
Computer__Guruokay, type: ps auxww | grep gdm09:48
Computer__Guruwhat's it say?09:48
nickrudkamstrumental, you are still trying to do this as root. You must do it as yourself.09:48
Computer__Gurusend me a message, we'll get you done09:49
danielleand i'm in my girlfriend's account, stumbling my way through qwerty hell09:49
b_e_n_zdoes #debian bad the whole world from joining?09:49
kamstrumentalnickrud: i swear i amnot doing it in root09:49
b_e_n_zdoes #debian ban the whole world from joining?09:49
La_PaRCafirestorm, got that?09:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax yes it's saved09:49
danielleComputer__Guru, nothing..i closed gdmsetup already09:49
kamstrumentalnickrud: i opened normal terminal and id commands as explained on site09:49
La_PaRCakamstrumental, go to /home/daren/.totem/totem-addons and do ls09:50
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: cant start it from console either?09:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax was i supposed to do this from the directory that i downloaded limewire from09:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax i tryed but don't know the correct command09:50
nickrudkamstrumental, your terminal prompt is root@esperanza ; that means root to me09:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought it was lime wire09:50
pax./limewire from its dir09:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax i mean ./limewire09:51
nickrudkamstrumental, it's almost 3am here; I've got to call it a night.09:52
La_PaRCa... why does my left hand smell like female genitalia?09:52
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: go back your steps and double check all was done right is all I can suggest09:52
kamstrumentalnickrud: no it says "daren@esperanza".. yea me too.09:52
La_PaRCakamstrumental, I can try to help you if you wanna hold for a little longer09:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax ok09:53
kamstrumentalLa_PaRCa: err, yeah... i appreciate everyones help... i don't mean to be difficult09:53
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nickrudkamstrumental, no, that's just the directory you're working in: root@espernanza:/home/daren09:53
giantok I have 2 copies of mplayer that are frozen and won't close09:53
nickrudkamstrumental, it should be something like daren@esperanza:/home/daren09:53
giantI knjow I can just kill the process09:53
giantbut what is the command again to list processes?09:54
giantbrain fart09:54
b_e_n_zgiant: ps -ef09:54
giantthank you09:54
nickrudLa_PaRCa, thanks, if you would09:54
paxwhat's wrong with using pwd to know where you are?09:54
La_PaRCanever knew if firestorm got the plugin to work...09:54
nickrudLa_PaRCa, more than half the time, you never know if your help works, only if it didn't ;)09:55
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nickrudnight all09:55
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giantI just used synapt-get to install mplayer... what would make it hang like that?09:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax do i need java installed?09:55
Computer__Gurudanielle: glad I could help :) thank you, drive through :)09:56
paxChurcH_of_FoamY: hell yeah it's based on it09:56
anubiswhat happened to flashplayer-mozilla?09:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax well theres the trouble i don't have java >.<09:56
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TattooemX09:57
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Shuflahello :)09:57
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!java09:58
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.09:58
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b_e_n_zthe sablevm in hoary doesn't run eclipse09:58
Computer__Guruis there a platformless laszlo server out yet?09:59
Computer__Gurub_e_n_z: yeah youre gonna have to install the j2re09:59
b_e_n_zComputer__Guru, i thought it runs on tomcat09:59
gianttotem sucks09:59
giantI can't play ANY video files that I give it10:00
giantasf, wmv, mpg10:00
Computer__Guruit does, but it needs java10:00
giantNOTYHING10:00
Shuflagiant: try xine || mplayer10:00
giantmplayer is hanging on EVERYTHING10:00
giantlet me try xine10:00
stkoskjasdhow can I access my floppy drive using ubuntu...I am using the live cd version?10:00
b_e_n_ztotem is based on xine lib i think10:00
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pax!totem-xine10:01
ubotutotem-xine is probably sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo10:01
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Shuflawell. in my situation xine plays much more videos than totem10:01
Computer__Gurumplayer plays everything, especially if you have hella codecs10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis dosen't exist does it?10:02
Computer__Guru!mplayer-install10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:02
Shuflasituation complicates when you have 64bit system ;)10:02
Computer__Guruokay, he msg's it now, type !mplayer-install10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause um syn won't take it >.<10:02
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Computer__Guruubotu forget mplayer-install10:03
ubotui forgot mplayer-install, Computer__Guru10:03
stkoskjasd!mplayer-install10:03
ubotustkoskjasd: I give up, what is it?10:03
Computer__Guruubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-$CPU, then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.10:03
ubotuComputer__Guru: okay10:03
Computer__Guruokay, he shouldnt msg it anymore10:03
Computer__Guruhe should show it in chan10:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYpax can i pm you for a sec?10:04
paxgo for it10:04
Computer__Guruor in your case mplayer-amd6410:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx10:04
Computer__Guruhow much faster do you think my system would run if i compiled all my hardware into the kernel?10:06
Computer__Guruand turned off pretty much all modules10:07
Zibarthe installer doesnt seem to support my sata drives ... as i only have sata drives on my system, im about to abandon ubuntu entirely .... any good advice ?10:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you copy from x-chat to say a text document?10:07
The_VoxComputer__Guru: why install the build deps for mplayer if you are goingto install a binary mplayer?10:07
anubiswhat happened to flashplayer-mozilla?10:07
Computer__GuruThe_Vox: this has been mentioned before, allow me to fix10:07
The_VoxChurcH_of_FoamY: select text with left mouse button, paste on document middle mouse button10:07
Computer__Guruubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update,  then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.10:08
ubotu...but mplayer-install is already something else...10:08
The_VoxZibar: did you try passing the installation kernel parameters for your sata?10:08
Computer__Guruubotu forget mplayer-install10:08
ubotui forgot mplayer-install, Computer__Guru10:08
Computer__Guruubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update,  then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.10:08
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Zibarplease clarify that step for me The_Vox ... what parameters should i use ?10:09
MadpilotComputer__Guru: you can msg ubotu to change entries, you know..10:09
Computer__Gurulol, said it again too fast10:09
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Computer__Guruno i didnt10:09
Computer__Guruthanks10:09
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Hackmohey all10:09
Hackmocan someone help me with my firefox problem please10:10
MadpilotComputer__Guru: just leave the ! out of the commands when you in msg w/ ubotu10:10
Computer__Guruyeah i got it.. thanks man :)10:10
Hackmoit just crashed so closed it and now when I start it, it asks me to select a profile but when I choose my profile it tells me that it is already in use10:10
arshadwhat is this? (apt-get -f install) ?10:10
Zibarthe only distro ive managed to install on these discs are debian sarge and starting installer with kernel 2.6.8 ... but that leaves me with way to much work configuring my hardware ... as my hardware is fairly new, this is a bit difficult ... i was hoping the ubuntu installer could assist me in this ....10:11
The_VoxZibar: you need to find out what kernel module works for your sata (I have no clue which may be) and then tell the installer to load said module10:11
Computer__GuruHackmo: open a shell and type: killall -9 firefox10:11
Computer__Guruthen try again10:11
Zibarso something like linux26 on install prompt might work ?10:11
HackmoComputer__Guru: It said "firefox: no process killed" after I ran that command10:11
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The_VoxHackmo: go into ~/.mozilla/firefox/<randomcharacters> directory and rm the lock file that you'll find in there10:12
Zibarodd thing is that the installer doesnt list that option when using help10:12
Computer__Gurutry: sudo killall -9 firefox-bin10:12
Computer__Guruor do that10:12
The_VoxZibar: I believe it should work something like that, yes10:12
knowledge_ok this suks....I installed a patch to my kernel...now my wireless card isn't working10:12
knowledge_anyone got a quick fix?10:12
Computer__Guruknowledge: when you recompiled your kernel, what config file did you load?10:12
The_VoxZibar: I've only installed ubuntu once and didn't need to pass it any parameters...but I'm pretty sure I saw an option somewhere to pass it kernel parameters10:13
HackmoComputer__Guru: thanks the seccond command worked10:13
Zibarill give it a go ... im a bit carefull as i have 160 gb data i dont want to loose .... makes me a bit edgy ... thanks for the tip though, ill go try it10:13
HackmoThe_Vox: thanks for your help10:13
knowledge_I have no clue10:13
The_Voxknowledge_: boot with the original kernel that you didn't uninstall10:13
Computer__Guruknowledge_: msg me10:13
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crudpuppyman you guys are great gettin guys starting in linux for real with the free cds10:15
InitMasswhat's the name of the system bell module?10:15
The_VoxInitMass: pcspkr10:15
The_Voxif you mean the kernel module10:15
InitMassThe_Vox, yes i do. thank you10:15
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The_Voxnp...it took me an hour to find the damn thing when I installed the last time lol!10:16
InitMassThe_Vox, i wonder how to turn off sound bell in rxvt10:17
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IceDC571muine is like the only linux audio player with native gapless playback.. i wonder how they did it10:18
InitMassThe_Vox, i had pcspkr turned off before but i want to be able to hear when somebody is writing to me in xchat10:18
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The_VoxInitMass: no clue at all, I don't use rxvt10:19
raven3x7anybody else has ha problems with firefox crashing all the time? is there a way i can log it so i can see why it crashes?10:19
The_VoxInitMass: but I'm pretty sure that if you don't want any bells in shell, you can turn it off with some env var in bash....check bash's info page10:19
InitMassThe_Vox, ok, maybe you know another way to get noticed by xchat than using the system bell10:19
InitMassraven3x7, i have the same problem10:20
InitMassThe_Vox, i'll do that10:20
bob2raven3x7: do you have flash installed?10:20
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raven3x7bob2 yes10:20
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bob2there you go10:20
lesshastewhat do I need to configure to make ip_tables.o?10:21
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The_VoxInitMass: no clue how to do that to xchat, at least not without a script of some kind...check xchat's website and see if there's one there10:21
bob2lesshaste: what are you trying to do?10:21
raven3x7bob2 so flash is unstable?10:21
bob2in my experience, yes10:21
zwnjwhat's the compression type of .deb packages?10:21
The_Voxraven3x7: flash sucks planets through capillary strawss10:21
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bigfoot1hello all: http://www.banja.com/login.asp shows  a flash page. I can click the buttons, but I can't enter text in it. Is this a problem just with my computer?10:21
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lesshastebob2, I want to get iptables working? I have just compiled a new kernel and it appears I no longer have ip_tables.o10:21
lesshastebob2, new 2.4.31 kerenl10:22
lesshastekernel10:22
bob2lesshaste: why are you compiling your own kernel?10:22
La_PaRCagod bless the command line10:22
InitMassbob2, it's not only when accessing flash pages it crashes anyway10:22
lesshastebob2, that is a different question :)10:22
bob2lesshaste: yes, but a good one10:22
bob2InitMass: yeah, I know10:22
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lesshastebob2, Can we concentrate on the ip_tables.o problem first?10:22
bob2lesshaste: ok, the problem is that you misconfigured your kernel10:23
bigfoot1About http://www.banja.com/login.asp, I _can_ enter text, but it's invisible. What's up?10:23
lesshastebob2, ok... now how?10:23
bob2lesshaste: the simple solution is to not make pointless work for yourself by compiling your own kernel10:23
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lesshastebob2, I turned on netfilter10:23
bob2lesshaste: not enough, obviously10:23
lesshastebob2, there is "iptables" option10:23
lesshastebob2, any idea?10:23
Amaranthwhy are you using a 2.4.x kernel when ubuntu ships with a perfectly fine 2.6.x kernel?10:24
The_Voxbigfoot1: are you using the "official" flash plugin or the Free one that comes with ubuntu?10:24
bob2lesshaste: yes, configure it properly.  go through and make every option in the netfilter section "N"10:24
lesshasteAmaranth, I have various kernels. I want to try this one10:24
bigfoot1The_Vox, how can i check?10:24
mebaran151anyone here code in ruby10:24
The_Voxbigfoot1: how did you install flash?10:24
bob2thinks will break with that kernel, btw10:24
bob2like hal10:24
Amaranthyou realize there is userland work that needs to be done to go with the kernel, right?10:24
bob2and g-v-m10:24
The_Voxlesshaste: I think bob2 means M and not N10:24
bigfoot1The_Vox, i forgot.10:24
bob2er10:24
lesshasteThe_Vox, thx10:24
bob2yes, typo10:24
bob2my mistake10:24
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lesshasteAmaranth, well.. the thing is that it works fine with my other kernels. I just don't seem to have made the module10:25
bigfoot1The_Vox, how can i confirm which flash i have?10:25
raven3x7i just noticed i had a free clone of flash installed. maybe its not stable enough yet?10:25
Madpilotheh... just taught ubotu this:10:25
Madpilot!questions10:25
ubotuit has been said that questions is recommend reading: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html10:25
InitMasshow do i relaod the inputrc?10:25
The_Voxbigfoot1: open firefox, type "about:plugins" (no quotes) in the addressbar and look for the flash plugin description...tell me what it says10:25
zwnjwhat's the compression type of .deb packages?10:26
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The_VoxInitMass: source the file "source /path/to/file"...it works for any and every bash init script...but only for the terminal you do it in, unless you re-login10:26
bigfoot1The_Vox,     File name: libflashplayer.so    Shockwave Flash 7.0 r2510:26
The_Voxzwnj: I believe they are tars10:26
bigfoot1The_Vox, application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf ..10:27
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highvoltagezwnj: i think i saw on the wiki that the new ones use bzip210:27
highvoltagewhich is very good compression.10:27
bob2zwnj: tar inside gzip inside ar10:27
bigfoot1The_Vox, application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes10:27
The_Voxbigfoot1: uhm...that's the official one....it shouldn't be all that unstable....then again, I rarely use it, I have an extension blocking display of flash until/unless I want to display it10:27
bigfoot1The_Vox, can you go to http://www.banja.com/login.asp and tell me if you can see the text you enter?10:27
InitMassThe_Vox, source /etc/inputrc bash: mode=emacs: command not found10:28
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The_Voxbigfoot1: can't see the text, no10:29
bigfoot1The_Vox, you mean you can't see the text that you enter with your keyboard, right?10:29
The_VoxInitMass: the "mode=emacs" line is wrong...emacs is the default mode, the only option for mode is vi10:29
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The_Voxbigfoot1: right, nor in the user nor password fields10:29
bigfoot1The_Vox, so what's wrong?10:30
ubuntuI just loaded ubuntu live (running off the cd rom on my windows machine) and I was wandering why I can't watch a dvd or vcd ? I have two dvd roms and ubuntu reads them fine...but some how the program can't Decode a dvd???? why?10:30
dam!/dev/dsp10:30
ubotudam: I give up, what is it?10:30
The_Voxbigfoot1: badly made flash animation would be my guess...they must be using something that is windows-specific10:30
dam!fuser10:30
Burgundaviaubuntu, the dvd stuff is not enabled by default10:30
ubotudam: Wish i knew10:30
ubuntuhow do you enable it?10:30
dam!fax10:30
InitMassThe_Vox, i don't understand what that has to do with the system bell10:30
ubotudam: Wish i knew10:30
Burgundaviaubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:31
bigfoot1The_Vox, i see. there's no way we can solve this on ubuntu computers, is there?10:31
dam!dsp10:31
ubotudam: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:31
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damubotu, yes10:31
ubotuNo idea, dam10:31
ubuntujust go to that site and......?10:31
damok. how do i get a creative soundcard working?10:31
damSIA10:31
InitMassThe_Vox, i tried to login into another terminal but the bell still sound10:31
ubuntuit will have all the answers10:31
The_VoxInitMass: absolutely nothing....it's just a line that is wrong in the inputrc file you loaded...comment it out by putting a # at the begining of that line10:31
damISA10:31
highvoltagegrand prix next weekend.10:31
highvoltagesorry, wrong channel.10:31
The_Voxbigfoot1: don't think there is, no10:32
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bigfoot1The_Vox, okay. I guess we just have to avoid sites like that.10:32
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axishiyo10:32
The_VoxInitMass: uhm...what did you add for the bell thing?10:32
The_Voxbigfoot1: and send an email to the webmaster telling him why10:32
axisdoes anybody know where the GAIM Dictionary file is located?10:32
dam!isa10:33
ubotuWish i knew, dam10:33
The_Voxdam: load the module? it depends on what model/chipset the sound card has10:33
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InitMassThe_Vox, ok now source is working i think but the bell still rings10:33
damThe_Vox, mmm. is there a GUI that does that?10:33
The_Voxaxis: somewhere in ~/.gaim is my bet10:33
InitMassThe_Vox, set bell-style noneset bell-style none10:33
axisdoes anybody know where the GAIM Dictionary file is located?   Or if it just uses a generic file, and where I may locate it?10:33
InitMassThe_Vox, just added once10:34
axisThe_Vox, : So it is proprietary to GAIM then?10:34
The_VoxInitMass: mmm...that should work10:34
axisThe_Vox:  thx, will have a look10:34
The_Voxaxis: it's my bet10:34
The_Voxdam: none10:34
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InitMassThe_Vox, after i have added that line i used the source command and tried if the bell still was ringing in that term and it was. i guess that should be the workflow10:35
The_VoxInitMass: did you log in anew in a real terminal or in an X terminal?10:35
axishmm bah10:35
The_Voxaxis: did I win my bet? :)10:36
highvoltageThe_Vox: a real terminal? you mean a virtual terminal?10:36
InitMassThe_Vox, s/workflow/course of action10:36
The_Voxhighvoltage: well, yes :P10:36
axisunfortunately no hehe10:36
InitMassThe_Vox, in a real one10:36
Computer__Guruokay, gotta reboot into my new kernel, wish me luck10:37
The_VoxInitMass: the problem is that I don't remember if redline does change params when you source inputrc....I know you can change bash stuff by sourcing profile and whatever other bash config files...but the bell thing is a redline thing, not directly a bash thing10:37
Computer__Gurualthough there shouldnt be so much as a single issue10:37
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axisThe_Vox, : myspell, firefox,  search providers, gnome,  man, open office, gconf,10:37
The_VoxInitMass: change the none to an off10:37
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axisi'm guessing myspell or gnome10:37
The_VoxI'm betting on gnome this time10:38
axisok hehehe10:38
InitMassThe_Vox, the man page says none...10:38
The_VoxInitMass: it also says this: Except where noted, readline variables can take the values On  or  Off.10:38
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The_Voxso...actually use Off and not off :)10:38
axisc,ja,uk   .. what's ja? haha10:38
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The_Voxaxis: japan?10:38
tonyhi all!10:39
axishehe10:39
The_Voxoh, not true10:39
The_Voxjapan is jp10:39
The_Voxuhm...jamaica is ja, I believe10:39
axis/home/axis/.gaim # edit /usr/share/omf/gnome-utils/gnome-c.omf10:39
axiserp, /usr/share/omf/gnome-utils/gnome-c.omf10:39
axisheahn10:39
InitMassThe_Vox, however it's complaining when i use off10:39
The_VoxInitMass: off or Off?10:40
InitMassThe_Vox, off10:40
tonyanyone use nzb/usenet binaries?10:40
The_Voxbecause I just noticed it says Off and not off....and linux tends to be extremely case sensitive :) So now try Off lol!10:40
InitMassThe_Vox, readline: /etc/inputrc: line 61: $endif without matching $if. it's complaining about this now :( i guess i changed something unsuitable10:42
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The_VoxInitMass: oops10:42
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The_VoxInitMass: go to the very last line of the file and tell me...is it a blank line or a line with text?10:43
InitMassThe_Vox, line with text. i # it. #$endif10:43
InitMassThe_Vox, and now it stopped complaining10:44
The_VoxInitMass: go to the end of the line and hit enter10:44
The_VoxInitMass: save the file10:44
The_VoxInitMass: there has to be an EOL at the end of all bash and redline config files always10:44
axisi think it's in here /usr/share/myspell/dicts10:44
InitMassThe_Vox, empty line you mean?10:44
The_VoxInitMass: yup10:45
LightBeamc u10:45
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axisI wonder which file i'm using, No manual entry for myspell10:45
InitMassThe_Vox, it is still complaining if i have that. do you have that endif in your file?10:45
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The_VoxInitMass: EOL = end of line...there has to be one by itself as the last line10:45
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The_Vox$endif10:45
The_Voxthat's the very last line of text in my inputrc10:45
The_VoxInitMass: what are you using to edit the file?10:46
InitMassvim10:46
axisfound it /usr/share/myspell/dicts/*.dic10:46
axislol10:46
blazinthow to get backports GPG sign key?10:46
The_Voxok, as long as it's not a word processor lol!10:46
InitMass# "\e[F": end-of-line10:46
InitMass$endif10:46
InitMassand between those one emty10:46
Tsar_vonHumbughow do I get devfs to create the device names I need for my usb-serial, ie /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 ?10:47
The_VoxInitMass: uhm...paste your inputrc in pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl10:47
The_VoxInitMass: tell me when it's there10:47
axisomg .. funniest ever .. "motherfucker" is in the US_English dictionary10:48
axislmfao10:48
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axisinternat,  "motherfucker" is located in US English /usr/share/myspell/dicts10:48
axislmfao10:48
The_Voxaxis: it has to be, or you get lots of misses when spellchecking the kernel :)10:48
axisoh man tha'ts good10:48
axishahahahaha10:48
internaterr.. wtf did i do now?10:48
axislmao10:49
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mebaran151pgsql, can anyone help?10:49
mebaran151please?10:49
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InitMassThe_Vox, now it's there10:49
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the_walrusmebaran151, whats wrong?10:49
axisinternat,   No, i just found the dictionary file because  i wanted to add in a few of my own words so they don't highlight. ... and i did a few searches and found swearwords lol10:49
mebaran151I need to setup authentication over a TCP/IP port10:49
axisthat's just too good10:49
mebaran151for my main user10:49
axisoh man i needed that10:49
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internatand that concerns me how?10:49
the_walrusSorry, cant help you with that10:50
axisthanks for the help vox,    it's /usr/share/myspell/dicts10:50
axishehe10:50
axislaters10:50
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The_VoxInitMass: now I know what the problem is...the mode=emacs line :) uncomment it10:50
Tsar_vonHumbugaxis, nothing worse than people who need their spelling of "motherfucker" corrected :)10:50
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oliviergosh, my keyboard map is broken, i should have read the topic before upgrading10:51
InitMassThe_Vox, yes :) i have removed the # in front of the emacs line10:51
The_VoxInitMass: it seems like the mode line only works if it's a login terminal....and redline complains if you source the file...there are a few other things like that, actually...I hate it when that happens10:52
Tsar_vonHumbugand as Dr Johnson says, if you found it, you were looking for it :D10:52
Tsar_vonHumbugenough sillines, who can fix my devfs problem?10:52
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LightBeamHello10:53
LightBeamsomebody have BREEZY installed to help me ?10:53
The_VoxTsar_vonHumbug: devfs?? ubuntu 5.04 doesn't use devfs10:53
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bob2LightBeam: just ask your question10:53
LightBeamis it a convention ? (don't help breezy, don't debug it..etc...)10:54
LightBeamI had to install nvidia drivers on it, bob210:54
The_VoxLightBeam: no, the pointing to the topic was so as to make sure you won't ask about X in breezy...it's broken, nobody can help you with that.10:54
The_VoxLightBeam: outside of that...ask, maybe somebody can help you10:54
Tsar_vonHumbugThe_Vox, 'ps aux |grep dev' = udevd ...10:54
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The_VoxTsar_vonHumbug: ok, that makes more sense...and udev does create /dev/tty/ttyUSB0 automatically when you plugin USB stuff that need it...at least it does for my ipaq10:55
The_VoxTsar_vonHumbug: what are you pluging in that isn't  creating it and needs it?10:55
Tsar_vonHumbugThe_Vox, k, I'll try replugging mebbe10:55
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The_VoxTsar_vonHumbug: tail -f /var/log/messages and see what it says when you unplug it and when you plug it in10:56
Tsar_vonHumbugThe_Vox, that's the right path? /dev/_tty_/ttyUSB0 ???10:56
Tsar_vonHumbugThe_Vox, ah, there it is /dev/ttyUSB0 :D10:57
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The_VoxTsar_vonHumbug: I knew it was something like that lol!10:57
nameless1can someone help me out i installed a 200gb sata hdd to go along with my 120gb and 160gb and im tryin to copy stuff from my 120gb to my 160gb after formating and its taking like 6min to copy a 350mb file and why it copys its slowing doen everything10:58
nameless1does anyone know how to make it go back to normal10:58
The_Voxnameless1: disk trashing will always slow down the system10:59
nameless1this is  slower then copying from cd to hdd10:59
lsuactiafneryeh but 6m for a 350m is insane10:59
nameless1im only tryin to copy  1 file at a time10:59
The_Voxnameless1: oh, you need to turn dma on for the drive10:59
lsuactiafneri get 50mbs on my sata10:59
nameless1how do i turn on dma10:59
lsuactiafneryeh dma..11:00
the_walrusI have DMA enabled, and I'm only getting 27mbs on my ATA HD11:00
The_Voxsudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/<whateverdeviceitis>11:00
nameless1it turns on instantly?11:00
The_Voxthe_walrus: 27mbs doesn't sound to bad11:00
The_Voxnameless1: should11:00
the_walrusreally?11:00
the_walrusI'm sure I was getting about 45 last time I tested11:00
the_walrusmaybe I'd been drinking :/11:00
lsuactiafnerhdparm -d /dev/foo shows current valuei think11:00
The_Voxthe_walrus: probably...I know I used to get 25 with my old deadstar11:01
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/hdb111:01
nameless1sudo: hdparam: command not found11:01
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/hda211:01
nameless1sudo: hdparam: command not found11:01
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt #11:01
The_Voxlsuactiafner: yes, it does11:01
AndyRRlsuactiafner, correct11:01
the_walrushdparm*11:01
lsuactiafnerbut do not play with hdparm btw.. you could screw the disk up by not listening to my very good advice..11:01
The_Voxnameless1: hdparm, sorry...autocomplete makes me forget things lol!11:01
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The_Voxlsuactiafner: dead HDs are fun )11:01
nameless1yeh both of those hdds have that thing turned off11:01
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The_Voxnameless1: I've never seen an HD die by turning on DMA...but anything you do with hdparm can potentially kill an HD, so...forewarned you are :)11:02
the_walrusin THEORY, it shouldn't let you turn it on if it doesn't support it11:02
the_walrusin THEORY11:02
The_Voxnameless1: now that the warning is out of the way..."sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever" will turn on dma11:02
The_Voxthe_walrus: theory is so much nicer than reality :)11:03
the_walrusheh, true11:03
nameless1its not turning on with those commands11:03
the_walrusrealities a bitch11:03
the_walrusyou need to have it enabled in your kernel, AND in the bios11:03
nameless1didnt see ya last msg vox ill try that11:03
The_Voxon the other hand, I haven't seen a modern (ie. less than 3 years old) HD not have dma11:03
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the_walrusyeah11:03
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nameless1setting using_dma to 1 (on)11:03
nameless1 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument11:03
nameless1 using_dma    =  0 (off)11:03
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda211:03
the_walruscheck your kernel config11:04
AndyRRedit /etc/hdparm.conf to make changes permanent11:04
The_Voxold controller...poor you11:04
nameless1it worked before just fine11:04
nameless1but since i installed the 200gb and formated....11:04
The_Voxnameless1: uhm...my guess would be that your controller doesn't support DMA...but if you had it working before, then I have no clue what the problem can be.11:05
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the_walruskernel config11:05
the_walrusor Bios11:05
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the_walrusor, wrong HD controller module11:06
the_walrusI had that problem with an Nforce2 chipset11:06
nameless1the 2 harddrives that are giving me the shits are pluged in the motherboard11:06
the_walrusthe generic controller didn't support DMA11:06
nameless1the 200gb is in a "controler thingy"11:06
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nameless1ubuntu is on the 200gb and the 200gb is running fine  i think11:06
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Pro_NewbieHow to install the windows fonts on (K)Ubuntu11:06
Pro_Newbie?11:06
The_VoxPro_Newbie: if in kde, go to the kde control center and install them from there.11:07
nameless1dma is working on the 200gb (the new hdd)11:07
The_VoxPro_Newbie: if not on kde....you need to create a ~/.fonts directory and copy them there...the fonts you put there will *only* be usable by the user that has the fonts, it will not be system wide11:07
the_walruswhere does this freaking distro put its kernel sources?11:08
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Pro_NewbieThe_Vox:  aha... but i remember there was some trick to download them via Kynaptic11:08
The_Voxthe_walrus: do you remember the name of the generic controller module?11:08
variant FUCK U11:08
variant FUCK U11:08
variant FUCK U11:08
variant FUCK U11:08
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The_VoxPro_Newbie: ah, on that I have no clue11:08
variant FUCK U11:08
the_walrusommm, thats going back a bit11:08
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Pro_NewbieThe_Vox:  ahum11:09
AndyRRi havent come accross an ubuntu install yet that hasnt had dma enabled on /dev/hda but non have it on other devices11:09
lsuactiafnerrofl11:09
nameless1i installed onto a 200gb thats on sda111:09
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The_VoxAndyRR: he had an already working install and added a 3rd HD on a SATA controller (I think it's a controller not part of the mboard)11:09
nameless1sda1 = 200gb hdd with dma11:09
AndyRRvariant having probs ? :)11:09
the_walrushow old is your mobo?11:09
lsuactiafner have a feeling someone told him to rm -rf /dev/omgwtf11:10
nameless1hda1 = windows parition hda2 = 150gb partition with ext3 and hdb1 = 120gb hdd11:10
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The_Voxoh...so you installed on the 200gb disk? I thought you had added that one11:10
nameless1the mobo worked fine before11:10
ztonzyheh11:10
ztonzyfunny user11:10
nameless1this is a software problem i have had ubuntu running fine with this comp before its just since i added the new hdd11:10
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nameless1but the new hdd works FINE11:10
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nameless1would not havin the updates installed affect this?11:10
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nameless1i added the 200gb and then formated11:11
nameless1the 200gb is better then my other hdds so i made sure i installed ubuntu on it11:11
AndyRRedit /etc/hdparm.conf to enable dma on drives that support it11:11
The_Voxnameless1: uhm...so you installed ubuntu from scratch on the new HD after installing it?11:12
nameless1yeah on sda1 (thru a controler thing)11:12
The_VoxAndyRR: he passed a -d 1 to one of the drives and got an error11:12
The_VoxAndyRR: but he says said HD was working with dma before adding the controller and new HD11:12
nameless1its tempting to just install suse11:12
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AndyRRshould be sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever11:13
AndyRRiirc11:13
The_Voxnameless1: you can try....it'll at least tell you if it's a HW conflict of some kind with the new controller11:13
AndyRRnote no space11:13
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda211:13
nameless1/dev/hda2:11:13
nameless1 setting using_dma to 1 (on)11:13
nameless1 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument11:13
nameless1 using_dma    =  0 (off)11:13
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt #11:13
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The_VoxAndyRR: it works with or without space11:13
the_walrusthat is a problem with either controller or HD11:14
AndyRRhda2 is a partition not a drive11:14
the_walrusit knows what its doing, but fails...11:14
the_walrusnameless1  setting using_dma to 1 (on)11:14
the_walrusnameless1  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument11:14
The_VoxAndyRR: I use it with space :)11:14
nameless1i wish ubuntu would be hastle free, if i end up getting suse ill make sure i install ubuntu when the new release comes out11:14
the_walrusheh, true11:14
the_walrusnameless1, do it with just /dev/hda11:14
The_Voxoh! F! didn't see that lol!11:14
toresbe /win 3911:14
the_walrusheh11:14
nameless1hda = windows partition11:14
toresbeoops, sorry11:14
the_walrusAndyRR picked it up11:14
nameless1hda1 = windows11:14
The_Voxnameless1: DMA is a per-disk thing, not a per-partition thing11:15
the_walrusyou set it on the whole disk though11:15
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nameless1hda1 = windows hda2 = linux hdb1 = linux sda1 = ubuntu install on 200gb new hdd11:15
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nameless1OH11:15
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda11:16
nameless1/dev/hda:11:16
nameless1 setting using_dma to 1 (on)11:16
nameless1 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted11:16
nameless1 using_dma    =  0 (off)11:16
nameless1root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda11:16
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BROKEN_LADDEResd can only be run by one user at a time?!11:16
The_VoxBROKEN_LADDER: yes11:16
The_Voxnameless1: uhm...ok, that's not nice11:16
nameless1:(11:16
nameless1time of suse11:16
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : make your nick lower case..11:17
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The_VoxBROKEN_LADDER: sound can only be used by one user at a time...only one user at a time can sit at the console, so <shrug>11:17
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BROKEN_LADDERthat's insane11:18
HappyFoolis breezy using esd or ... err dmix? whatever it's called11:18
BROKEN_LADDERwhat if one user has music playing while another sits at the computer and plays a video game that has sound effects?11:18
nameless1iim gona go install suse, thanx for tryin to help. bye11:18
BROKEN_LADDERusers are supposed to kill and restart esd?11:18
BROKEN_LADDERpathetic.11:18
the_walrususe the same login name11:19
the_walrusget them to play the music11:19
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BurgundaviaHappyFool, breezy is using dmix and esd11:20
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Amaranthdaniels: o_O11:20
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paxanyone tried resizing etx3 partition with QTParted damage free?11:22
larshi everybody. i've got a problem with nautilus while using webdva. when the connection to the server has been established nautilus crashes. why???11:22
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HappyFoolsleep well11:25
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catoh boy just got home from work11:26
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DukGalNamuis tehre anything wrong with this?    ls | nano11:27
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tonyinstalling nzbget i am missing zlib on configure... whitch zlib would that be?11:28
catDukGalNamu: ls ; nano11:28
catgrrr ls | nano is right11:28
HappyFooltony: probably zlib1g-de11:29
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HappyFooltony: zlib1g-dev11:29
DukGalNamuwhy did nano crash and start using %100 of my precessor then....11:29
kjonQuestion. How can I run cdrecord with realtime priority without being root?11:29
DukGalNamu*processor11:29
HappyFoolDukGalNamu: maybe do 'ls > filelist.txt' and then 'nano filelist.txt' instead11:29
Pro_Newbiewhere is my SATA hardisk?11:30
Pro_Newbie/dev/???11:30
HappyFoolDukGalNamu: not to mention the fact that nano seems to not accept keyboard input in this mode11:30
tonythan u Happy! u the man!11:30
catPro_Newbie: man sata11:30
HappyFooltony: heh. no problem ;)11:30
Pro_Newbiecat:  no i need it for Fdisk11:30
catyeah it should be there11:30
DukGalNamuHappyFool: heh, yeah but it crashed for me11:30
HappyFoolPro_Newbie: probably /dev/sdXXX, where XXX is one of a,b,c, ....11:30
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eruinanyone know which package provides shares-admin`11:31
kjonuuu... my damn burner writes too slow!!!! - my dma settings are fine, and I don't know how to set a higher priority for cdrecord... Any hints? pleeezeeee11:31
DukGalNamuPro_Newbie: is it your primary11:31
DukGalNamu?11:31
paxdmesg | grep SATA11:31
Pro_Newbie10x HappyFool, DukGalNamu11:31
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DukGalNamuPro_Newbie: yeah, do what pac said11:32
HappyFoolkjon: don't know, sorry -- you can use 'sudo cdrecord' maybe, if you aren't11:32
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DukGalNamupax sorry11:32
HappyFooleruin: what's that? for configuring samba shares?11:32
kjonHave anybody heard about LSM???11:32
hapois it possible to keep the contents of the existing /home partition when installing (k)ubuntu?11:32
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eruinHappyFool, samba, nfs, yeah11:33
kjonLinux Security Modules... I heard that thing can set diferent priorities without being root...11:33
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DukGalNamuhapo: if its mounted to a seperate partition then yes11:33
kjonbut I need to recompile my whole kernel to get that thing working...11:33
HappyFooleruin: you should be able to use System -> Administration -> Shared folders for samba; otherwise try maybe 'swat' or 'webmin-samba'11:33
hapoDukGalNamu: yes, it is11:33
hapoDukGalNamu: so the installer asks about that like in fedora?11:34
hapoi'm installing this for the first time11:34
HappyFooleruin: not sure about nfs -- no obvious webmin module11:34
eruinHappyFool, I'm just collecting the package name so I can submit an enhancement bug for it ;)11:34
DukGalNamuhapo: no i don't think so11:34
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HappyFooleruin: hrm. apt-cache search does not get any matches for 'shares-admin' (in hoary)11:34
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DukGalNamuhapo: you would have to manually tell ubuntu to keep the current partitions and not format the /home partition11:35
eruinHappyFool, I know, not in breezy either11:35
eruinI guess it must be gnome-system-tools11:35
the_walruswhats the other gui config for the kernel?11:35
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the_walrusxconfig and...11:35
missmarplehi11:35
hapoDukGalNamu: so it's the same in fedora. as an old linux user i'll select the manual config anyway :)11:35
DukGalNamuhapo: and be sure to choose the mountpoint for the partition11:35
HappyFoolhapo: note that ubuntu 'user' uids (i.e., non-system) start at 1000 -- i think fedora might be 500, or something else11:35
DukGalNamuhapo: you should probably use debian11:35
hapoHappyFool: so i'll have to do some heavy chowning?11:35
HappyFoolhapo: you might need to do a 'chown -R' after installing11:35
hapook11:36
HappyFoolhapo: also, who knows what havoc the .gnome2 etc directories will play11:36
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DukGalNamuhapo: ubuntu is for the unexperienced and the lazy....11:36
HappyFoolthe_walrus: you mean maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ? (not exactly gui)11:36
HappyFoolDukGalNamu: hah!11:36
the_walrusHappyFool, I mean like, sudo make xconfig11:36
the_walrusbut the one that uses gtk11:36
HappyFoolthe_walrus: oh, right11:37
DukGalNamuHappyFool: hah?11:37
HappyFoolyou calling me lazy :P11:37
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DukGalNamuHappyFool: umm.... yeah why?11:37
DukGalNamuHappyFool: :P11:37
the_walrusunexperience too it seems11:37
DukGalNamuHappyFool: XD11:37
DukGalNamuROFL!!!11:37
HappyFoolthe_walrus: make gconfig11:38
the_walrusi thought the right word was inexperienced though :p11:38
hapoDukGalNamu: well, i'm experienced but lazy :)11:38
the_walrusThanks HappyFool11:38
hapoDukGalNamu: at least ubuntu is more for power users than fedora, or is it?11:38
DukGalNamuthere you go!!!11:38
the_walrus* Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that11:38
the_walrus* the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed...11:38
the_walrus* You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.11:38
the_walrusdammit!11:38
HappyFoolthe_walrus: yeah. have fun getting the -dev libs ;)11:38
DukGalNamuhapo: yes, but distros like debian is for REAL power users11:38
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HappyFoolhapo: it's debian-based, with (afaik) most debian packages available11:39
DukGalNamuhapo: in debian you can control EXACLTY what goes on your computer (minus the base install, which is mostly tools and utilities)11:39
HappyFoolthe_walrus: how about 'make menuconfig' ?11:39
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hapoDukGalNamu: yes, i'm using debian on my other workstation11:39
hapobut i'm a lazy user :)11:39
DukGalNamuhapo: where as ubuntu gives you gnome and a bunch of other HD space hogs11:39
HappyFoolwell, there is a 'server' install for ubuntu11:40
paxDukGalNamu: cat /etc/debian_version11:40
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DukGalNamupax: yes i realize that it is debian base11:41
DukGalNamud11:41
DukGalNamupax: what i am remarking on is the installation11:41
paxwhat's different?11:42
helloyoi know ubuntu is best for me but its absolutely giving me the ****s! half of my mirrors (taken from ubuntuguide) fail! can anyone help?11:42
hapoi just got fed up of fedora... it's the windows of the linux world11:42
hapodoes things that you don't want it to do11:42
hapowithout your permission11:42
paxMS fedora, indeed.11:43
DukGalNamupax: the fact that you HAVE to install gnome11:43
hapodoes the stock kernel of ubuntu include bluetooth support, btw?11:43
hapoor do i have to compile a new one for that purpose?11:43
DukGalNamupax: the fact that everything else that is installed uses gnome libraries11:43
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paxDukGalNamu: I was under impression the installer give you server option, no?11:43
MadpilotDukGalNamu: there's kubuntu if you like KDE...11:43
DukGalNamupax: i haven't didn't see it, is it a recent implemintation?11:44
DukGalNamuMadpilot: i like KDE, when i like a slow computer...11:44
DukGalNamuMadpilot: kde is no better than gnome....11:44
VincentMXyes it is11:45
DukGalNamuMadpilot: they are both resource hogs11:45
VincentMXi love kde11:45
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DukGalNamuVincentMX: wel, aside form looking better and working better11:45
paxDukGalNamu: I can't confirm, I'm not sure, hope someone else jumps in on this.11:45
DukGalNamuVincentMX: same problem with resources11:45
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DukGalNamupax: in either case.. there is no point in an ubuntu server.... when debian is perfect for that.. cause i thought ubuntu was mostly for desktop home users11:46
Pro_NewbieHow to boost the Mic for skype because the person to who i talk says itsnt enough loud11:46
Pro_Newbie?11:46
DukGalNamunot poeple who want to set up a server11:46
catPro_Newbie: pop up aumixer or the gnome mixer,11:46
catopen it11:46
DukGalNamualsamixer?11:47
paxDukGalNamu: what makes 50% of a distro is its community imho.11:47
catalsamixer, aumix, alsamixer-gui gmix et cetc11:47
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DukGalNamupax: true and as of late the debian community has been a bunch of asses and trolls11:47
Pro_Newbiecat: yea, but i cant see mic....11:47
DukGalNamupax: when i come here i almost always get alot of help11:47
paxthere's a huge differnce between debian crowd and ubuntu folks.11:48
catyou will see it dude, keep on looking11:48
BurgundaviaDukGalNamu, this is not #hackdowndebian, please don't turn it into that11:48
Pro_Newbiecat: 10x a lot11:48
catnp11:48
DukGalNamuBurgundavia: i am not hacking down debian, i like debian, its just he #debian channel is croweded and full of short tempered people11:48
james_Sorry, whats the IRC channel for wine on the Ubuntu server?11:49
HappyFool#winehq11:49
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james_ winehq :That channel doesn't exist11:49
HappyFooland this isn't really the 'ubuntu' server, despite the x-chat label ;)11:49
Burgundaviajames_, #wine11:49
DukGalNamuohh man, could they help me getting diablo 2 running???11:49
james_* wine :That channel doesn't exist11:49
Burgundaviahmm11:49
HappyFooli could swear it was that yesterday11:49
AmaranthThis is freenode, quite possibly the largest concentration of free software hackers on the planet.11:49
anubisflash plugin for FF?11:50
Amaranths/planet/internet/11:50
james_Strange11:50
HappyFooljames_: it is #winehq -- /join #winehq11:50
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james_HappyFool: thanks, :p11:50
the_walrusUbuntu is not a good development environment :/11:50
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HappyFoolthe_walrus: you just need to install lots of -dev libs -- no different from most other distro's, afaik11:51
DukGalNamuthe_walrus: its really not that bad actually11:51
HappyFool-dev packages, even11:51
DukGalNamuthe_walrus: it actually has alot of libraries pre installed11:51
the_walrusWell, most of them aren't on the CD it tells me :(11:51
HappyFoolthe_walrus: ah. fair enough11:51
anubisflash plugin for FF?11:51
nikkiaHappyFool: and there is usually a virtual package for all -dev packages for a specific environment, like gnome, kde, X11:51
Amaranththe_walrus: No, the CD is for a desktop install, you have to get the development stuff over the internet.11:51
the_walrusAmaranth, I understand that, I just like all my libs and stuff there11:52
HappyFoolanubis: i think it's in multiverse -- no for amd64, though, as far as i know11:52
tonyHappyfool: is "libxml2 header files were not found" asking for libxml2-dev?11:52
HappyFooltony: i don't know, but it's a good guess11:52
tonyoki thx!11:52
nikkiait'd be nice if you could tell the package managers 'install this, and its development environment' in one go rather than having to hunt down the -dev package11:52
Amaranthtony: pretty good chance11:52
Amaranthnikkia: It's usually <package-name>-dev11:53
nikkiaAmaranth: usually, but not always11:53
HappyFoolnikkia: yeah, especially when package names and -dev packages don't exactly match11:53
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Amaranthwell, -dev packages always depend on their libs so just search for and install them instead :)11:53
nikkiaAmaranth: thats not a great idea, IME11:53
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axisbah11:54
HappyFoolanubis: yeah, the package is flashplugin-nonfree, i think11:54
Amaranthnikkia: You're the one that said that was what you wanted though.11:54
nikkiait means your libs are installed as soft dependancies, thus if you upgrade the -dev, the old libs will get removed automatically11:54
axisstill can't find the proper GAIM dictionary file11:54
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Amaranthmeh, that's not true11:54
nikkiaAmaranth: no, its not, that's a workaround to achieve what i said, but it is not perfect11:54
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Amaranththey'll only get removed if they aren't depended on11:54
james_Winehq channel seems a little quiet :(11:54
Amaranthand something conflicts with them or replaces them11:54
axissame with #GAIM11:55
queuetueDid backports.ubuntuforums.org go somewhere, or is it simply gone?11:55
St0n3-C0lhow do I mount NTFS partition ?11:55
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Amaranthqueuetue: It's down atm11:55
HappyFool!windows11:55
ubotuI heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative11:55
HappyFoolhrm11:55
nikkiaAmaranth: i've seen apt try to remove all of X 'because its no longer used' too many times to believe that the dependancy checking is perfect :)11:55
Amaranth!alternative11:55
ubotu[alternative]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant11:55
queuetueAmaranth: Has it been down for weeks, or is it just intermittent and I check at bad times?11:55
axisdesplesda, do you know much about GAIM ?11:55
Amaranthqueuetue: You can't use it in sources.list anymore.11:55
axisHappyFool: i forget what you helped me with the otherday, but thanx.. i think it was 32bit i/o11:56
Amaranthqueuetue: Go to the website and look up a mirror.11:56
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HappyFoolaxis: cool11:56
jamesDOODHello all, I have a computer with an Invidia Graphics card and it seems the configuration files are not included on the cd. I have horribly slow dailup and have no idea how to use it during the installation of UBUNTU WARTHOG. How do I mount a memory stick which contains the Nvidia installation files using only the command prompt (Because the Xserver wont load) and install the files?11:56
queuetueAmaranth: Ah, ok.11:56
axisHappyFool: Yah mon .. I think it had something to do with enabling 32 bit IO on an SATA drive11:57
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anubisI hate this change of xchat's text color11:57
queuetueAmaranth: Since the main site is down atm ... could you give me a mirror to use temporarily?11:57
HappyFoolaxis: probably module insertion at boot?11:57
anubisanyone here care to share their old xchat profile so I can return to the old scheme?11:57
DukGalNamujamesDOOD: what error does teh xserver give you?11:57
queuetueOr a google cache of the mirrors page? :)11:57
anubisalso a flash player for FF would be good11:58
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axisHappyFool: hmm it could have been ..  ide-core and/or pII-core   / amd module ..11:58
MeltedDuronlo11:58
jamesDOODIt says "free86 or something is probably improperly configured and won't load, would you like to see the server output?"\11:58
anubisthe info on ubuntu starter guide for the flash plugin is not right11:58
axisHappyFool, : I really thought it was SATA 32 bit i/o enabling .. haha11:58
kjonHow do I compile gnomebaker 0.4? When I run ./configure, it says that "vorbisfile.pc" is missing.... what means that?11:58
HappyFoolanubis: what kind of system are you on? x86, ppc or amd64? (cpu type)11:59
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jamesDOODAnd then it says Ubuntu Linux: Warty Warthog Login: Password:11:59
kjon(I've installed all the vorbis stuff --- but I don't know what should I do)11:59
axis*yawn11:59
anubisHappyFool, x8611:59
jamesDOODand so on11:59
jamesDOODonly text11:59
paxI believe something like # mount -w -o noatime /dev/sda1 /memstick should get you going jamesDOOD11:59
MeltedDuronwhy don't i have any mp3/video codecs on my 5.04 install?11:59
axisneed a coffee .. and i need  to figure out which dictionary GAIM uses and where it's located11:59
axisamn11:59
axisdamn11:59
HappyFoolanubis: have you added the 'multiverse' repository to your software package sources ?11:59
raven3x7MeltedDuron, they dont instal by default you need to add them12:00
Burgundaviaaxis, why do you need to know where gaim is located/12:00
Burgundavia?12:00
anubisHappyFool, as per the guide12:00
axisBurgundavia, : Not where GAIM is located, but which dictionary it uses12:00
Burgundaviaaxis, for what?12:00
MeltedDuronraven3x7: how do i go about that?12:00
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anubisHappyFool, however those were some weird backport links12:00
axisBurgundavia, : I want to edit it, and add is some of my own words i use frequently12:00
anubisHappyFool, not marilliat12:01
raven3x7MeltedDuron,  first you need to add repositories12:01
queuetueAmaranth: I managed to get the planetmirror mirror out of google cache.  Thanks.12:01
james_is their any reason why Skype would not load? Ive installed it of the .deb package, its added to the menu though does not load when I click on it :?12:01
Burgundaviaaxis, linked against myspell or aspell12:01
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axisBurgundavia, : I've located   myspell/dict/US_ENG.dic   which is what i'm using12:01
Burgundaviaaxis, check the depencies12:01
HappyFoolanubis: i don't use backports, but it shouldn't matter12:01
raven3x7!repositories12:01
ubotuwell, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:01
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axisBurgundavia, : And I've edited it ..   but it does seem to correspond with GAIM12:01
axisand I can't find any docu on google / gaims website12:02
anubisI have to fix this new xchat12:02
anubisits killing my eyes12:02
HappyFoolanubis: anyway, have you tried installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' ?12:02
anubisI can't see my own text12:02
jamesDOODAnd hwo do I go about installing that NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run12:02
paxjames_ ps aux | grep skype shows it running?12:02
AmaranthjamesDOOD: Don't bother.12:02
jamesDOOD?12:02
jamesDOODwhy?12:03
anubisBuilding dependency tree... Done12:03
anubisE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla12:03
AmaranthjamesDOOD: Install the nvidia-glx package.12:03
HappyFool!sources12:03
ubotusomebody said sources was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:03
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HappyFoolhey, who removed the example sources?12:03
jamesDOODbut its's not there12:03
jamesDOODi mean, it's not on the CD12:03
jamesDOODthat I was sent12:03
AmaranthProbably not.12:03
axisokay i'm man aspell this is the goods :)12:03
jamesDOODHow long will it take to downlaod on 33k dialup?12:03
BurgundaviaHappyFool, the example sources where somewhere else12:03
raven3x7jamesDOOD, its called nvidia-glx12:04
BurgundaviaHappyFool, and that page died12:04
jamesDOODand where do I find it?12:04
jamesDOODWhy doesn't it install automatically?12:04
HappyFoolBurgundavia: it's here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38  (works for me)12:04
AmaranthjamesDOOD: enable the restricted repository in synaptic and install it there12:04
delirehere at a festival in barcelona, *surrounded* by Ubuntu logo's. someones doing something right here in spain.12:04
Amaranthit's 3MB12:04
jamesDOODoh12:04
jamesDOODnot bad12:04
raven3x7jamesDOOD,  i think its about 3MB12:04
jamesDOODwhat is synaptic12:04
Amaranthfestival is just a party?12:05
paxdelire: did you take pics?12:05
AmaranthjamesDOOD: System->Administration->Synaptec Package Manager12:05
delireAmaranth: no http://elastico.net/copyfight.12:05
HappyFoolanubis: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38   -- that's a reasonable list of ubuntu sources (without backports)12:05
jamesDOOD(sorry, I am quite unexperienced with this linux stuff :-D )12:05
jamesDOODI have no screen12:05
jamesDOODI mean12:05
jamesDOODonly text12:05
Amaranthoy12:05
HappyFoolanubis: including 'multiverse'12:05
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delirepax: all on laptops, kind of hard but it does seem to be the default windows alternative. quite a few macs but Ubuntu is 'the other operating system'.12:05
raven3x7type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:06
kjonI need help compiling gnomebaker 0.4. Who can help me?12:06
jamesDOODIt says Graphic INterface is improperly configured and will not load12:06
raven3x7jamesDOOD,  type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:06
paxgood stuff12:06
concept10Is there any desktop app that depends on apache2 in a default install of Hoary?12:06
jamesDOODtried that before,12:06
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jamesDOODIt cannot find nvidia-glx12:06
Amaranthconcept10: No.12:06
raven3x7jamesDOOD, why do you only have text mode?12:06
jamesDOODI have an nvidia geforce 6600 graphics card12:07
raven3x7Amaranth, that is nvidia-kernel-common or smthing12:07
jamesDOODI heard that Ubuntu, or maybe just linux, has a problem with nvidia cards12:07
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HappyFoolthe nvidia kernel modules are in linux-modules-restricted, which is installed by default12:07
delirepax: funny thing is how many people have retained the default gnome install even with the same default desktop image. can't say the same for most distributions - it seems people actually find the default configuration sensible.12:07
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jamesDOODwhen I start my computer into linux it does all these things like setting software clock OK OK OK oK and so on12:07
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MeltedDuronthnx raven, reminds me of SuSE's yast212:07
jamesDOODbut then at the end the screen goes black twice in succession12:08
paxdelire: should've taken pics ;(12:08
jamesDOODand I get the login prompt as two lines of text12:08
raven3x7MeltedDuron, only its better12:08
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MeltedDuronlol yeh12:08
jamesDOODUbuntu Linux Warty Warthog12:08
jamesDOODLogin:12:08
danilDoes anyone install Canon LBP 1120(USB) on Ubuntu?12:08
Amarantho_O12:08
Amaranthwarty?12:08
delirepax: yep, should have. maybe i'll borrow a camera.12:08
jamesDOODAnd a window comes up saying that "Graphics inteface will not load, would you like to see server output?"12:08
Amaranthsay yes12:09
Amaranthand look for lines that start with (EE)12:09
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raven3x7jamesDOOD, warty probably doesnt support your card because its too old. maybe you do need to install that nvidia binary after all12:09
jamesDOODthe linux is too old?12:10
rekajamesDOOD: your card:12:10
paxjamesDOOD: type: /sbin/runlevel12:11
raven3x7its about 8 months old i believe. you just need to update the nvidia drivers though12:11
paxjames, is it N 2?12:11
jamesDOOD?12:11
MeltedDuronwho's idea was it not to install audio/video codecs anyay :-|12:11
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jamesDOODmy apologies but., What?"12:11
jamesDOODN 2?12:12
raven3x7does anyone know if warty has up to date nvidia drivers?12:12
tiglionabbitMeltedDuron, they're proprietary, we can't support em12:12
MeltedDuronlol k12:12
eruinwhats a 3gp file?12:12
raven3x7MeltedDuron, its because of legal issues12:12
paxjamesDOOD: just checking what level you are running, you said you dont have x12:12
MeltedDurondamn the law i pirated photoshop when i was 9 years old12:12
jamesDOODHow do I find out?12:12
raven3x7pax he is running warty. if i remember warty has the 6xxx drivers which may not support his card12:13
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eruinits not due to legal issues12:13
Codestormsmeg12:13
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raven3x7eruin no?12:14
eruinnvidia drivers are included but unsupported as nobody but nvidia has access to the source for debugging12:14
paxraven3x7: Amaranth already suggested he apt-get into the driver but he's not responding to that .. so12:14
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Amaranth(Codestorm is a friend of mine screwing around)12:14
eruinsmeg is indeed a weird name for a menu editor12:14
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axissigh .. no help12:14
HappyFoolheh12:14
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axiscan figure out the syntax for aspell .. man's not helpin me12:15
paxwhat's smeg anyway? (dont ban me now)12:15
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Amaranthhehe12:15
axiscan figure out the syntax for aspell .. man's not helpin me12:15
Amaranth!smeg12:15
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.12:15
nikkiapax, menu editor12:15
axisaspell -p --personal=/home/axis/dictionary.txt12:15
axiscan't*12:15
paxnikki, thx12:15
raven3x7pax i think we need to get him to switch to the vesa drivers so he can use synaptic12:15
jamesDOODyup, apt-get doesn't find the files12:16
paxraven3x7: he's all yours :)12:16
AmaranthI'm the author of smeg and I have xchat set to beep when someone says the name so I can see if they need help.12:16
eruinI remember a site called smeg.co.uk I stumbled upon back in the days (which is why the menu editor name is weird to me)12:16
AmaranthPeople who abuse knowing this get in trouble.12:16
highvoltageclear12:16
highvoltagels12:16
eruinthe site was filled with various types of smeg, aka poo12:16
highvoltagesorry12:16
eruinmachine gun turd being one of em12:16
MeltedDuronanybody know if i can make me a pretty splash screen?12:16
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paxAmaranth: oh I didnt know, let me check your wiki page again :p12:16
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raven3x7jamesDOOD, you ever used vi before?12:17
Amaranthno, don't give him vi12:17
Amaranthuse nano12:17
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raven3x7Amaranth, never used nano12:17
Heimdallhey room12:17
MeltedDuronw00t my 100mb of packages downloaded (2mb broadband :D)12:17
eruinblargh I wanat my X charset back12:17
eruinI cant even switch to a terminal :P12:17
jamesDOODnot really sorry12:17
jamesDOODi've used gedit12:18
Heimdallis there a mean to know the global size of a directory with a 'ls' command ?12:18
tiglionabbitraven3x7, really?  They always have you use nano first.  I know experienced network administrators who'd never use anything but nano12:18
jamesDOODxemacs12:18
mindspinls -l12:18
jamesDOODbut not vi12:18
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Heimdallmindspin, ls -l gives the size of the files in the dir12:18
mindspinyes12:18
Heimdallnot the size of the directory12:18
mindspinah, overread it you mean directory size12:19
eruinvi is fit for a coder, nano is fit for someone who just wants to get a simple edit done fast12:19
ftwighi - anyone got belkin f5d7010 wlan card working?12:19
Heimdall?12:19
Heimdallyes12:19
Heimdallthe sum of the all the sizes12:19
Heimdallin one dir12:19
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raven3x7tiglionabbit, i didnt know about it. i learned vi at school. i just looked at it and it seems a lot simpler12:20
axisanybody know how to import a MAN page manuall12:20
jamesDOODvi uses buffers12:20
axisFUCK MAN , MAN MAN12:20
jamesDOOD:)12:20
jamesDOODor something12:20
tiglionabbitraven3x7, AT SCHOOL?  HOW?12:20
axisgrrrrrrrrr12:21
tiglionabbitI've never heard of a school that ever used vi for anything..  that's not fair12:21
raven3x7with school i meant a IT school12:21
tiglionabbitoh12:21
jamesDOODso what should i use :)?12:21
tiglionabbitbut still, I'm at UCSC now and people are afraid of vim12:21
raven3x7in a linux class12:21
j-rockHeimdall: try du -sh12:21
tiglionabbitI want a linux crass12:21
tiglionabbit*class12:21
tiglionabbityeah, du -sh *12:21
j-rockwe use VIM in one of our CS classes at uni12:22
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jamesDOODarg12:22
j-rockthen you can continue using it in the high ones like networks and operating systems12:22
axistiglionabbit, : what year12:22
jamesDOOD:)12:22
Heimdallthx j-rock  !!!12:22
paxaxis: what do you mean import it? manpath12:22
j-rockHeimdall: np12:22
concept10Amaranth, did you ever do anything with the system-config-services app?  or just use BUM instead?12:22
topyliyou have to know a little vi because it exists on every unix system12:22
anubishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto This is just aweful12:22
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tiglionabbitI've never seen someone who can use vim effectively either.  I just switched to it from emacs, and am still a little awkward, but I'm getting the hang of it.  Hard to remember when to use o or O or A or a or i, all of which mean insert some text12:23
concept10whats vim12:23
tiglionabbitor R or r or whatevr12:23
Amaranthconcept10: Like 4 different people are attacking that problem from different angles, didn't feel like duplicating work.12:23
j-rockoh its easy12:23
j-rock;)12:23
Computer__GuruI recompiled my kernel, and now vga=791 doesnt work... anybody else have this problem?12:23
axispax, : i have a man .gz in my /home .. i want to add it, i can't view it. i've tried decomrpessing the gz and it just spits out the same file which won't add12:23
tiglionabbitconcept10, vim has a history.  It's based on the oldest text editor in the world12:23
topyliconcept10: vim is the vi that modern linuxen have12:23
concept10Amaranth, thats what I thought.  Thats cool.12:23
paxvimtutor is a great thing12:23
AmaranthComputer__Guru: You lost me at 'recompiled my kernel'. Why? :)12:23
tiglionabbitlinuxen?12:23
highvoltagetiglionabbit: no it's not.12:23
concept10tiglionabbit, negative12:23
tiglionabbitwhat, really?12:23
jamesDOODso what do I do?12:24
paxaxis, tried man:<file> in konqi?12:24
topylitiglionabbit: yes. unix, linux, box and such should be pluralized by latin rules :)12:24
concept10The oldest text editor in the world is a rock and a hammer12:24
Computer__GuruAmaranth: because I wanted to compile a few pieces of hardware into the kernel12:24
Amaranth/usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim12:24
tiglionabbitI thought it was based on vi for visual, the visual version of ed.   And what's older than that?12:24
j-rockjamesDOOD: whats the q?12:24
Amaranth*cough*12:24
axispax: sorry, don't know what konqi is12:24
AmaranthComputer__Guru: Any reason they couldn't be modules?12:24
Computer__GuruAmaranth: regardless, vga=791 no longer works12:24
raven3x7jamesDOOD, im trying to remember where xfree86.conf is on warty12:24
paxaxis, if you are using KDE try with konqueror12:24
AmaranthComputer__Guru: Lots of things will probably no longer work.12:25
topylitiglionabbit: ed is the One :)12:25
rekaraven3x7: same place... /etc/X1112:25
tiglionabbitconcept10, I meant the oldest text editor for a computer12:25
paxin Konqueror you can view man pages with man:vim or info:vim (exemple)12:25
Computer__GuruI used the ubuntu config file. if recompiling a kernel breaks the system, then its not much of a system _at_all_12:25
concept10tiglionabbit, :) :)12:25
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raven3x7reka thanks. its been a while since i used it12:25
axissigh .. I just want to know which dictionary file GAIM uses, and how to add my own words12:25
bentele\list12:26
axisi've tried learning aspell, myspell, etc etc12:26
concept10tiglionabbit, a little humor, thats all.12:26
axislooking in my /home for a dictionary file12:26
topylitiglionabbit: who knows what the ENIAC had :)12:26
axismaking my own trying to import it with myspell/aspel12:26
AlexBOHow can I set my password for this channel?12:26
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axisi just want to add some frigging words to my dictionary library for GAIM12:26
anubisI have to search through pages of google everytime for repos for ubuntu12:26
Computer__Guruaxis: dpkg-query -L wamerican or wbritish or whatever your wordlist package is12:26
axisso much easier with freebsd12:26
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concept10I wish my dad was still alive, he had so much unix knowledge and I just started a year ago12:26
Computer__Guruwow12:27
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raven3x7jamesDOOD, first type  $ sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4_backup12:27
AmaranthAlexBO: /msg NickServ HELP12:27
topyliAlexBO: do you mean nicserv?12:27
Computer__GuruUbuntu Linux = Where we discourage recompiling your kernel.12:27
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candidwhere do i get information which sources to use write into /etc/sources.list?12:27
AmaranthComputer__Guru: The system answer is I don't know.12:27
AlexBOtopyli:yes12:27
Computer__GuruI dont either, heh12:27
tiglionabbit!sources12:27
uboturumour has it, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:27
raven3x7jamesDOOD, this will backup your configuration12:27
AmaranthComputer__Guru: And that 99% of the time recompiling your kernel isn't needed.12:27
tiglionabbitgrr12:28
topyliAlexBO: oh, see Amaranth's answer ^12:28
tiglionabbitwhy does that never stay the way I set it?12:28
Computer__Guruall i know is the most commonly used video mode for svgalib no longer works and I want to know why12:28
rekacandid: a working smaple one can be foud here: paste.ubuntulniux.nl/3812:28
jamesDOODok12:28
adwaithehe tiglionabbit12:28
AmaranthComputer__Guru: Most people don't know, kernel/userland interaction is black magic. This is why we tell people not to do it.12:28
jamesDOODraven3x7: ok12:28
j-rockblack magic == fun12:28
paxComputer__Guru: wrong!  Ubuntu = Unlike Before, linUx id Now Totally Usable12:28
Computer__GuruI'm gonna try linking a new system.map12:28
paxis812:28
concept10black magic?12:28
hondjecidr is black magic12:28
Computer__Gurupax: that was just gay12:29
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Computer__Gurubrb12:29
rootweilerhi12:29
anubisbackports.ubuntuforums.org this site is down12:29
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anubiswhere are mirrors?12:29
raven3x7jamesDOOD, now you need to change the driver12:29
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AmaranthComputer__Guru: language12:29
jamesDOODhmmk12:29
Computer__Guruapology12:29
axisComputer__Guru, Package `wamerican' is not installed.12:29
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Computer__Gurutry wbritish12:29
jamesDOODlets say I have that package downloaded alraedy12:30
hoofi have a question...im trying to compile kernel 2.6.12 but make-kpkg doesnt work12:30
jamesDOODand it is on my memory stick12:30
AlexBOwell....probably I've already done it, but I lost the password. How can i resume it?12:30
jamesDOODand I typed #mount -w -o noatime /dev/sda1/memstick12:30
hoofwhen i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found12:30
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axisComputer__Guru, : nope not that either, not wcanadian either12:30
axislol12:30
AmaranthAlexBO: If you've lost the password you're out of luck.12:30
jamesDOODwhat do I do now in order to isntall the dot RUN package12:30
rootweilerdoes anyone know if ubuntu can uses a nokia 6680 (gprs) to connect to the net?12:30
axisi'm using american english12:30
adwaithoof: maybe its not installed? try to apt-get it12:30
tiglionabbitdarn it this corey burger guy is pissing me off12:30
AlexBOAmaranth: good... so, Have I to create a new Nick?12:31
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Burgundaviatiglionabbit, greatings tiglionabbit, what do we need to talk about?12:31
Burgundaviahondje, I am Corey burger12:31
adwaitjamesDOOD: first chmod +x <whatever> then ./<whatever.run>12:31
tiglionabbitI know that, Burgundavia12:31
hondjeno, you're Burgundavia :)12:31
Computer__Gururebooting with a new system map, wish me luck12:31
tiglionabbityou're just removing every link to the information I use and refer people to12:31
concept10Does anyone play ET?12:31
AmaranthAlexBO: Well, only if you want to register a channel or be an op somewhere.12:31
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sebastianHow do I upgrade to Kubuntu?12:32
raven3x7jamesDOOD, type sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 find the line where it says Driver          "nvidia". delete it and replace it with "vesa". then ctrl+x to exit. when it asks to save the buffer say yes12:32
tiglionabbitI'm going to make a sources wiki, stop changing it..12:32
paxsebastian: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop12:32
AlexBOAmaranth: i like this channel very much. I wanna register me12:32
adwaitsebastian: from what/12:32
paxsebastian: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:32
hondjewhy vesa and not nv?12:32
AmaranthAlexBO: Ok, then change to another nick and /msg NickServ HELP12:32
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axisbargh12:32
concept10tiglionabbit, thats funny12:32
mindspinhondje because vesa works almost ever and he can use synaptic12:33
AlexBOAmaranth: okey12:33
raven3x7jamesDOOD, it says "nv" not "nvidia" sorry. only delete that word12:33
mindspinto get nv12:33
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candidapt-get says package xyz not found with every package i want to install. what am i doing wrong?12:33
sebastian"sebastian is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."12:33
mindspintry su12:33
hondjemindspin: really? I never had vesa working, so I've always used nv if not nvidia. Go figure12:33
Amaranthsebastian: You have to use the first account you created on the system.12:33
jamesDOODThans a lot12:34
hondjelinux has hated me for a long time12:34
jamesDOODI'll load into linux and try it out12:34
jamesDOODcheers12:34
raven3x7hondje are you talking to me?12:34
sebastianAmaranth, I though I was?12:34
mindspinif you have troble with xserver vesa almost ever works12:34
Amaranthsebastian: You can't be...12:34
hoofadwait: i tried but it cannot be found12:34
hondjeraven3x7: I was, but mindspin answered :)12:34
concept10The good thing about ubuntu is that people are nice in the forums and in this channel, but there are some conflicting opinions about the way to do things12:34
mindspinworks means you see something ;-)12:34
sebastianAmaranth, Can't I change this account to be as if it were the first then?12:34
hoofwhen i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found12:34
hondjeI wonder why vesa never worked for me12:34
hoofwhen i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found...help...12:34
hondjeprobably for making fun of Dawes all those times12:35
Amaranthsebastian: Not without rebooting in recovery mode and editting some file with non-simple syntax.12:35
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sebastianAmaranth, Ouch? Is this going to be fixed or should i report a bug about it?12:35
hondjeanyone notice that xfree86 4.5 came out? :D12:35
mindspinhondje always bleeding edge hardware?12:35
Amaranthsebastian: Nothing to be fixed.12:35
Amaranthhoof: install the kernel-package package12:36
topylisebastian: you can add yourself to the "admin" group, which is mentioned in the sudoers file12:36
Amaranthhondje: it came out a long time ago12:36
hondjeAmaranth: if a tree falls in the wood.... :)12:36
hoofamaranth: how?12:36
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hoofamaranth: how?  Through apt-get?12:36
hondjemindspin: no, I use regular ol' intel mobos12:36
sebastiantopyli, In the Users and Groups program?12:36
Amaranthhoof: yeah12:36
ben_underscorehoof, use synaptic12:36
hondjethough I haven't tried it in years12:36
topylisebastian: yes12:36
topylisebastian: then logout, login, and you have TEH POWER :)12:37
hoofben_underscore:  forgive me, im new to ubuntu...what's synaptic?12:37
Amaranthtopyli: He'll need sudo access for that too.12:37
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topyliAmaranth: aww. you're right12:37
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paxhoof, synaptic is add/remove programs type of thingy12:37
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ben_underscorehoof, it is the package manager. are you in ubuntu? click on the "system" menu, then "administration" then "synaptic"12:38
Amaranthif adding yourself to the admin group is all that is needed, reboot in recovery mode and run 'adduser sebastian admin' and restart (ctrl-alt-del)12:38
topylisebastian: so the uber-user has to do it for you. sorry if i'm confused and hung over12:38
scorpixif i install windows xp in another partition, do i have to reinstall grub or do any configurations for the boot loader?12:38
mindspintopyly but he can boot with alivecd, mount the hd and edit it as root12:38
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hoofpax: where can i find it...12:38
paxhoof: in console type: synaptic12:38
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paxsudo synaptic*12:38
hoofpax: ok found it12:39
topylisebastian: you could do it in single user mode like Amaranth says12:39
Burgundaviascorpix, yes and there is a wiki page for it12:39
AmaranthIf I have to look at a terminal the system has failed. :)12:39
topyliheh12:39
sebastianHow do I find out what user is the main user?12:39
hoofah ok12:39
Burgundaviascorpix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:39
hoofgot it...ill try it12:39
scorpixBurgundavia, link plz12:39
Burgundaviasebastian, system-->admin-->users&groups12:39
Burgundaviafirst user listed12:39
Amaranthsebastian: It's whatever user you created when you installed ubuntu.12:40
sebastianOh crap I can't open that...12:40
topylisebastian: grep admin /etc/group12:40
sebastianAmaranth, No it isn't.12:40
Amaranthsebastian: It is. :)12:40
AmaranthUnless someone broke your Ubuntu.12:40
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sebastian"lpadmin:x:107:sebastian"12:40
hoofpax: now i know what synaptic does...hahahaha...a while ago, i was exploring ubuntu and I thought synaptic was for extracting gz or tars12:41
topylisebastian: there you go12:41
Madpilotneed some sleep. see you all later...12:41
sebastianBut then the question is, why can't I use sudo?12:41
hondjehoof: that's file-roller :D12:41
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mindspinsebastian did you enable root log in?12:41
topylisebastian: that's a relevant question :)12:41
sebastianmindspin, What is that?12:42
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mindspinok you didn't12:42
candidFATAL: Module loop_fish2 not found. << where do i get it?12:42
mindspinits possible to enable root logi12:42
topylisebastian: i suggest you boot into single user mode and fix the sudoers file12:42
mindspinbut its not recommended although some people do12:42
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topylisebastian: (or at least check if it's ok or not)12:42
sebastiantopyli, What is the problem with it then, so I know what to fix?12:43
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hoofanother question...why can't i compile XMMS from source?12:43
hoofit looks for GLIB12:43
ulaasi want breeeeeezy12:43
topylisebastian: for some reason the admin group doesn't have the rights. or, user 'sebastian' is not properly set up in the group12:43
hoofwhere can i find GLIB?12:43
mindspinsebastian the brute way is, boot with knoppix, mount your hd and edit the file12:43
topylisebastian: or perhaps it's just the moon phase12:44
eruinwhat's dasher?12:44
ulaaseruin, run and see ?12:44
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jaco^a patch for google video?12:44
ben_underscorehoof, you need to install a package that contains all of the developer libraries and gcc etc12:44
Raptoidslmlr.12:45
ben_underscorehoof, i cannot remember it's name though12:45
ulaaseruin, predictive text input system.12:45
topylihoof: install libglib2.0-dev. why do you want to compile?12:45
sebastianI try to add "admin   ALL=(ALL) ALL" will that fix the problem?12:45
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ulaasRaptoid, what is a slmlr?12:45
topylisebastian: %admin, not admin12:45
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topylisebastian: and use visudo, don't edit the file directly12:46
yahalomhow do i connect to someone with ssh? what do they need to be running?12:46
sebastiantopyli, When I use visudo it opens in an editor.12:46
yahalomi added my ip in their necessary files, but thats i12:46
topylisebastian: yes12:46
topylisebastian: but visudo also check that the file is sane12:47
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linuksoyahalom: start sshd ( /etc/init.d/sshd start )12:47
sebastianWhen I asks of filename to write, should I write /etc/sudoers ?12:47
topylisebastian: yes12:48
topyliwell, it probably suggests that anyway12:48
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sebastianNah it addede a .tmp12:49
hoofi have a problem...Im using Ubuntu 4.10.  And each time i try to compile kernel 2.6.10, it exits gnome and then returns me to the login screen...what's the problem?12:49
hoofwell, at first it goes out to a text mode thingy and then returns to the login screen12:50
sebastianHmm is lpadmin something different from admin? I have no admin line in /etc/groups12:50
topylihoof: X crashes. i've never heard of the compiler crashing X before :)12:51
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tiagohi can some one please help me out?12:51
topylisebastian: ah. you need to add the group. i wonder why you don't have it. are you running warty or hoary?12:51
hooftopyli: how do I solve this problem?12:51
sebastiantopyli, The latest of them, think it's hoary.12:52
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sebastianI have an adm group/12:52
topylihoof: i have absolutely no idea. again, why do you want to compile? ubuntu already has a kernel you know :)12:52
tiagoim running kubuntu and i want to know how to install gnome on it =P12:52
tiagoi wana try out gnome...12:52
Burgundaviatiago, install ubuntu-desktop12:53
hooftopyli: in fedora, I used 2.6.12 and it gave me a significant performance boost.12:53
Burgundaviatiago, you will get the same thing as if you installed ubuntu and not kubuntu12:53
Burgundaviahoof, .12 is coming in breezy12:53
tiagowill i ahve both?12:53
Burgundaviatiago, yes12:53
topylisebastian: hmm. adm might actually be the right one. add yourself to that and make sure it's in the sudoers file12:53
hooftopyli:  ubuntu has kernel 2.6.812:53
tiagoswo i type install ubuntu-desktop in command?12:53
hoofwhats the difference between ubuntu and kubutu anyway?12:54
Burgundaviatiago, or search for it in synaptic12:54
tiagook thanx12:54
hoofburgundavia: what do you mean .12 is coming in breezy?12:54
topylihoof: really? i haven't heard about that either12:54
tiglionabbitUbuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE.  You can install all packages and desktops from either on either though12:54
tiglionabbitlook for ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop in APT12:54
Burgundaviahoof, 2.6.12 will be the default kerenl for Breezy Badger, the next version of Ubuntu, due in October12:54
sebastiantopyli, Is the sudoers file change immidiate?12:55
highvoltageahw, and here I was hoping for gnome 2.1212:55
yahalomhow do i connect with xdcmp to another linux box?12:55
Burgundaviahighvoltage, that is coming as well12:55
tiagoits gona be a 106mb download lol12:55
highvoltagecool.12:55
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topylisebastian: i guess. but group membership only takes place at a new login12:55
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hoofburgundavia: so it means, when the new version comes i need to reinstall again?  That would be a pain in the ass.12:55
tiagowhats gnome like? i havent used it before12:55
sebastiantopyli, I was already in the adm group.12:56
Burgundaviahoof, there will be a clear upgrade path and a supported one12:56
topylisebastian: perhaps adm group is not in sudoers12:56
Burgundaviahoof, without reinstalling. This is not fedora12:56
hoofi believe that ubuntu is already a good distribution.  I dont have to reinstall a new version from scratch all i needed to do is upgrade the kernel...12:56
sebastianoh "visudo: sudoers file unchanged12:57
sebastian".12:57
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concept10hoof, what kernel are you currently using?12:57
hoofI was a fedora user...and I didnt have to jump from fedora core 1 to 4...i used fedora core 1 and then just upgraded the kernel...it was great12:57
sebastianIt doesn't say why though. What can I do? Use another command to change the file?12:57
rekatiago: it's my favourite DE.  what are you currently using?12:57
hoofconcept10: the one which came with 4.10, it guess its 2.6.812:58
concept10hoof, have you tried to upgrade to 2.6.11?12:58
sebastianHmm, weird it works now. Thanks!12:58
hoofconcept10: nope...why?12:59
concept102.6.11 is available in the repos12:59
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hoofconcept10: actually...i figured it out...kernel 2.6.12 is compiling but it stops because of unknown reasons X is exiting...12:59
sebastian"Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'" Eh? Can't I upgrade from internet?12:59
hoofdo you guys know how I can go to run level 3?  in fedora it's telinit 3...how do i do it in ubuntu?01:00
HappyFoolsebastian: you can remove the cd entry in /etc/apt/sources.list -- or using synaptic01:00
HappyFoolhoof: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'01:00
HappyFoolhoof: runlevels are different in ubuntu/debian01:00
mindspininit 301:00
mindspin?01:00
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mindspinthat works on debian01:01
hoofhappyfool: how different?01:01
hoofhappyfool: if i issue that command, will it stop X and take me to a text only mode?01:01
sebastianHmm how do I edit my partitions?01:01
topylisebastian: please join #flood and paste your sudoers file there01:02
hoofmindspin: it accepts the command but doesnt do anything...im still in X01:02
sebastiantopyli, I commented out the first entry and it seams like it works.01:02
mindspinstrg Alt Bacckspace kills x ;-)01:02
topylisebastian: sudo or the upgrade? :)01:02
HappyFoolhoof: it should01:03
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HappyFoolhoof: in ubuntu, default runlevel is 2; afaik 345 are not specially defined01:03
sebastiantopyli, Both of it works now. :) Now I only need to know how I add a new partition where I can put my ut2004 installation.01:03
HappyFoolhoof: 1 is still single user, and i think 0 and 6 are startup/shutdown01:03
hoofhappyfool: ahhhh...ok so, what's the runlevel which will stop X?01:03
HappyFoolhoof: there isn't one, really01:03
HappyFoolhoof: hence the gdm stop01:04
mindspinsebastian take cfdisk01:04
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topylihoof: none. stop gdm01:04
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HappyFoolhoof: you could switch to runlevel 1, but that's a bit extreme, and not necessary01:04
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parkahi. may i kindly ask for your help01:04
topyliwell, since you're asking kindly, why not just ask? ;)01:05
mindspinread the topic: Have a question? Just ask!01:05
parkanautilus goes nuts when i try to access my home ... dontknowthewordinenglish01:05
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mindspindirectory?01:06
topyliparka: nuts how?01:06
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Burgundaviaparka, there are other channels for other languages. You might want to try #ubuntu-de01:06
freewoodyhi all01:06
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hoofok, another question...how do i install the skins for xmms?01:06
parkaburgund, i tried that already01:06
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freewoodyHow do I mount my FAT32 C drive automatically at startup so that all users can access it ?01:07
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parkahoof, take them in .xmms/skins01:07
mindspinparka try to explain "goes nuts" in more detail01:07
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sebastianIsn't there any graphical interface to edit my ppartitions? I feel unsafe doing such things in text based guis. :/01:07
parkaokay. please dont laugh. the foot in the top right moves, but the window keeps white01:08
mindspincfdisk is kinda graphical01:08
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parkai can access my usb disk though01:08
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mindspinqtparted  maybe?01:08
Computer__GuruAmaranth: I found the problem01:08
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parkacfdisk = fatal errror, cant open01:09
tiglionabbitfreewoody, I'll help you with that01:09
tiglionabbitwait..  there's a script, isn't there01:09
Computer__GuruAmaranth: the version of gcc that I'm using breaks the agp_bridge_register function01:09
tiglionabbit!mount01:09
ubotumethinks mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:09
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freewoodythanks01:09
topyliparka: can you ls the directory in a terminal?01:09
AmaranthComputer__Guru: i810_drv.o w/gcc4?01:09
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Amaranthwait, that's xorg01:10
parkatop: yes01:10
topyliparka: seems like nautilus is trying to list the dir but fails01:10
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Computer__GuruAmaranth: nope, it's the agpgart driver with gcc 3.3.501:10
mindspinparka, switch to kde ;-)01:10
parkatop, yes i think so01:10
topyliparka: do you have something weird mounted in a subdir of your home?01:10
Computer__Guruwhat version of gcc was the ubuntu kernel compiled with? I'm just gonna compile with that01:11
tiglionabbityeah, that'll save you having to listen to me.  Anyway, to do it yourself, all ya gotta do is "sudo fdisk -l", find the device you want (/dev/hdsomething), then "sudo mount /dev/hdsomething /mnt", then edit fstab and add a line for "/dev/hdsomething /mnt vfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0"01:11
sebastianHmm, when viewinng software updates it gets real slow when viewing details, and everything is greyed out. That isn't that good is it?01:11
parkai have a link to my usb but dont think thats the prob01:11
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topyliComputer__Guru: try 'cat /proc/version'01:11
Computer__Gurusomeone please echo /proc/version who's on a vanilla ubuntu kernel01:11
Computer__Gurucat /proc/version:01:11
Computer__GuruLinux version 2.6.10-psilocybin-i686 (root@psilocybin) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #3 Sun Jul 17 07:03:25 EDT 200501:11
sebastianMaybe they should make it use threads?01:11
Computer__Gurudoesnt help me01:11
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parkatop: but i think there are weird icons. i played with configuring those. regrettably01:12
topyliComputer__Guru: gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)01:12
Computer__Gurutopyli: now if I could get *you* to do that for me, it would help a ton01:12
tiglionabbitwell anyway guys, it's time for me to sleep01:12
Computer__Gurutru tru01:12
topyli^01:12
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Computer__Guruthat from /proc/version? cause it's the default installed compiler, doesnt necessarily mean thats what was used for your kernel01:12
parkainstalling kde might be a workaround01:13
topyliyes01:13
Computer__Guruok01:13
Computer__Guruso why in the hell is this not working01:13
topyliparka: what desperate measures! :)01:13
mindspinI love kde01:13
parkatop: yeah :-)01:13
raven3x7bcan some one kick raven3x7? its me but my connection failed and i cant loggin now01:13
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sebastianEw, the ui's of the Software Updates tool isn't the best. :/01:14
klaas_Computer__Guru: check out buildinfo.gz in the /usr/share/doc/you-kjernel-image01:14
topyliparka: try unmounting the usb drive and deleting the mount point01:14
Computer__Gurutopyli: in the vanilla kernel, i can boot vga=791 just fine, but ive recompiled mine twice (with NOTHING changed from vanilla ubuntu except EXTRAVERSION and processor family), and both times, vga=791 gives me a blank screen, and i get no output till kdm initializes01:14
Computer__Guruthanks klaaa01:15
Computer__Guruerr klaas01:15
topyliComputer__Guru: framebuffer fails01:15
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jinrohHas anyone installed scilab on Ubuntu 5.0401:15
johnnybezakhey guys if I stop a wget transfer will it restart where it left off or start again?01:15
Computer__Gurutopyli: yeah, but why would it fail if im using the kernel config file that came with ubuntu.. thats why im trying to figure out01:16
parkatop: i might try, but i dont think that helps. usb doesnt mount after startup, have to mount it manually cos of a warty bug01:16
heatxsinkanyone awake?01:16
HappyFooljohnnybezak: wget has a 'continue' flag01:16
raven3x7bhow long till my old self will time out? does anyone know?01:16
klaas_heatxsink: sure, it's 13:16 where I live..01:16
pax^johns^: if you used wget -c yes01:16
topyliComputer__Guru: beats me :(01:16
johnnybezakHappyFool: will it work if I didn't use it to start off with?01:16
HappyFooljohnnybezak: yip01:16
nikkiaraven3x7: use /nickserv ghost <password>01:16
raven3x7bnikkia thanks01:16
nikkiabut in answer to your question, up to 4 minutes01:17
johnnybezakHappyFool: so i just wget -c thefilename and itll resume?01:17
sebastianOh **** internet is slow in Ubuntu, how do I fix that?01:17
parkatop: and though it doesnt mount, nautilus behaves that strange way. only when displaying my home directory01:17
HappyFooljohnnybezak: no, wget -c <the url>01:17
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HappyFooljohnnybezak: in the directory where the file is01:17
johnnybezakHappyFool: yeah sorry thats what I meant01:17
paxsebastian: stop downloading the internet (:01:17
johnnybezakHappyFool: thanks01:17
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nikkiaraven3x7: there you go, was just about to point out its /nickserv ghost <nick> <password>01:18
parkawhat would help me: is there a way to stop nautilus from open again and again after i killed the process?01:18
topyliparka: might be gam_server going nuts01:18
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topyliparka: nautilus always restarts01:18
parkatop: gam_server?01:18
raven3x7nikkia i figured it had to be? thanks01:19
topyliparka: yes, it's a daemon that tries to list and remember all files01:19
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raven3x7forget that question mrk.01:19
topyliparka: to speed up nautilus01:19
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topylitry killing that01:19
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parkatop: can't find it in the systems observation tool01:20
anjahi01:20
parkaor in ps01:20
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hack_benjaminhow do i add groups?01:20
sJaMadd a user to a group01:21
anjai have a short question. how can i say that the sshd should start per default?01:21
sJaMor make a new group ?01:21
raven3x7is there a way to burn .cue+.img images in linux?01:21
paxaddroup?01:21
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klaas_hack_benjamin: Desktop->Administration->Users & Groups01:21
anjaunder gentoo i only need rc-update01:21
anjahow is this under ubuntu?01:21
sJaMunder ubuntu it is started by default01:21
sJaMif you used01:21
topyliparka: hrm. well, perhaps it's the opposite and it _should_ be running (well normally it should :)01:21
sJaMapt-get install ssh-server01:21
anjayes?01:21
klaas_anja: update-rc.d01:21
anjaok thx01:21
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Corvusraven3x7 you past convert them to .iso01:21
linuksoanja: use rcconf01:22
klaas_anja: But if it's installed it'll startup by default.01:22
raven3x7Corvus using what app?01:22
parkatop: just to go sure, its name is "gam_server"?01:22
anjaklaas_, ok thx that waht i wane hear ;p01:22
anjaby01:22
pax#groupadd newgroup  you can add a system group with # addroup -r newgroup01:22
Computer__Guruokay, we're gonna try this yet again01:23
topyliparka: i believe it's "gamin" that is responsible of starting gam_server01:23
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heatxsinkanyone in here ever use ssh-add in their login scripts?01:23
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zacere01:24
topyliparka: but i don't really know how to start it manually, it's gnome-sessions job01:24
klaas_heatxsink: ssh-add?01:24
heatxsinknod01:24
heatxsinkklaas_, yes01:24
klaas_heatxsink: nope, sorry01:24
heatxsinkdoh01:24
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parkatop: maybe you know how to open some directory with nautilus via bash? then i could avoid /home01:25
dylan_anybody know of a good backup utility for linux?01:25
mindspinbacula01:26
klaas_heatxsink: what do you need it for?01:26
mindspinthats for netwirks01:26
mindspinoops01:26
mindspinnetworks01:26
klaas_dylan_: rdiff-backup01:26
heatxsinkklaas_, I have multiple servers I log into, and I'm tired of entering passwords01:26
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anubismplayer is where?01:27
klaas_heatxsink: Do you work from a single machine?01:27
heatxsinkklaas_, so I was going to have Xsession run my ssh-add01:27
heatxsinkklaas_, not all of the time01:27
dylan_thanks01:27
anubisare the repos on Ubunut starter guide ever going to be accurate?01:27
topyliparka: nautilus /home/parka/directory ?01:28
klaas_heatxsink: Okay, otherwise you could just create a key with ssh-keygen, and add it to the authorized-keys in your server's config.01:28
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heatxsinkdid that already01:28
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heatxsinktrying to use ssh-agent01:29
heatxsinkand ssh-add to manage keys01:29
heatxsinkbut I just searched the wiki01:29
heatxsinkand there's a way of using keychain for that01:29
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visorhi01:29
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visorits odd, nobody's talking :S01:30
parkatop: i'll try that after restarting. navigating thru my nautilus bookmarks migth be another way01:30
parkatill i solved the mystery01:30
parkabad thing is, i have to work01:30
klaas_heatxsink: I used keychain once, it's great.01:31
heatxsinkcool01:31
visoranyone have made the share option trough nautilus really to work?01:31
heatxsinkI'll try that01:31
heatxsinki'm used to running ssh-add in Xsession01:31
visori was wondering why is there if it doesnt by default01:31
heatxsinkand doing everything once01:31
dylan_is there a graphical kind of rdiff-backup ?01:31
heatxsinkbut it seems keychain is the exact same thing but gnome integrated01:32
heatxsinknot X integrated01:32
visoreven the ubuntuguide has this info but it doesnt work out of the box01:32
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topyliparka: that does sound pretty bad on a sunday. it's a sin you know ;)01:32
klaas_dylan_: Don't think so, you can make a script and run it in a cron job.01:32
dylan_ok01:32
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klaas_dylan_: to what medium do you want to backup?01:32
dylan_external hard disk01:33
dylan_USB 2.0 / FireWire01:33
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klaas_dylan_: Do you want to backup a single computer?01:33
heatxsinkklaas_, why does it need the public key?01:33
topylidylan_: unison-gtk01:33
heatxsinkthat's weird01:33
dylan_thanks01:33
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topylidylan_: but why do you want a graphical backup tool? it's supposed to happen automatically via cron01:33
klaas_heatxsink: I'll check it out, it's well over a year and a half since I used it so... let me refresh my memory first.01:34
dylan_i want to be able to drag and drop but was wondering if there was an additional tool01:34
topylidylan_: unison doesn't do that01:34
parkatopyli: thanks a lot for your help01:34
heatxsinkklaas_, thanks!01:35
topyliparka: np, even though it was not very helpful :)01:35
dylan_could i just drag and drop to the external drive?01:35
topylidylan_: sure, but that won't diff01:35
dylan_what's diff?01:36
topylidylan_: like rdiff does01:36
topylidylan_: drag'n'drop will be interactive and very annoying with a lot of files01:37
sebastianHow do I upgrade to the latest version of Open Office?01:37
dylan_topyli, i am hoping to make a folder then just shove everything in there  ctrl + c my friend01:38
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slask3nhow to add an user to sdo, without root privelegies.?01:39
slask3nsudo*01:39
topylisebastian: pavel always has the latest builds: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/01:39
topylidebs too01:39
infinitoslask3n,  sudo visudo01:39
HappyFoolslask3n: if you can't get root privileges, (via sudo or su), you can't01:40
topylidylan_: i see no problem there. is there one? :)01:40
sebastianOr if that is set up properly, add the user to the adm/admin group.01:40
dylan_is there one what?01:40
dylan_oh, no no problem01:40
dylan_thanks for all the help!  :)01:40
raven3x7sebastian i think there is a 2.0 beta in the repos01:40
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hmrochaHello01:41
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fanskapetagh something is broken in my apt-archive01:41
topyliraven3x7: it's an old version and doesn't work very well01:41
sebastiantopyli, Oh didn't need a that recent version, just one of the 2.0 betas and I'm fine.01:41
topyliah01:42
hmrochahow can i add the ubuntu backports to hoary?01:42
fanskapeti can't install fglrx *starts chewing on my keyboard*01:42
Myrttiyou don't01:42
fanskapet subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 201:42
fanskapetErrors were encountered while processing:01:42
fanskapet /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb01:42
fanskapetE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:42
fanskapetanyone know anything about these errors?01:42
Pro_Newbiedoes someone know from where to download Transgaming.Point2Play.v1.3.1.for.Linux-LAXiTY01:43
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fanskapettryed to 'fix the broken packages' but that doesn't help me with this.01:43
raven3x7topyli oh... i guess  should check bfore talking01:43
hmrochaMyrtti, why?01:43
Pro_Newbieor Transgaming.Point2Play.v2.0.1.for.Linux-LAXiTY01:43
klaas_heatxsink: Sorry, it's too long ago to just pop up the answer.01:44
dylan_Why is gtkpod telling me that my iPod's file structure is invalid?01:44
Myrttibecause backports are the gateway to hell01:44
topyliraven3x7: it's developing very quickly. the latest builds are starting to be very usable01:44
sebastianHmm, is it possible to just copy my firefox profile from windows?01:44
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hmrochaMyrtti, but i'm using breezy, i want to go back to hoary01:45
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fanskapethmm noone knows how to solve my issue?01:45
tiagocan some one tell me what this means please? im watching a movie in Kaffeine Player and its saying restoring index **%...01:45
erirlarwhats the name of the app that extracs tar.gz files in nautilus again?01:45
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hmrochaMyrtti, breezy is not the gateway to hell, it's the hell already :)01:45
bodqhello01:46
erirlarsolved - file-roller01:46
bodqdoes 'shipit' really work? :) where can I track the status of my request?01:46
raven3x7topyli yeah although i thought it was supposed to have been released by now. Also i hope ubuntu can use the work Fedora did to get OO working with gcj cause otherwise we might get a crippled version01:46
topyliraven3x7: they are postponing the release all the time because there are still problems. it's the longhorn of the free software world :)01:47
raven3x7sebastian unlikely. you would at least have to edit you paths. if you google there might be a guide though01:47
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fanskapetE: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 .. agh01:47
raven3x7topyli rotfl01:47
fanskapeteven though i've fixed the broken dependen... in synaptic01:48
HappyFoolyou can probably copy at least bookmarks.html from windows to linux, for firefox01:48
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visorso, have you made to work the nautilus share feature? >_<01:48
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fanskapeti followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8993&highlight=mobility+9700+amd64 that tutorial01:48
fanskapetcan it have with the "dpkg-divert" command?01:49
fanskapethave todo.. even.01:49
sebastianWhere do I manage my drives? Or how do I open my NTFS drives?01:51
rekabodq: how long have you been waiting?01:52
HappyFoolfanskapet: i don't know dpkg-divert, but maybe you can try running dpkg -i on that .deb file, and try to see what the error is01:52
fanskapetsearcher`,  fdisk -l01:52
HappyFoolfanskapet: take a look at 'man dpkg' for debug flags -- there are lots under -d01:52
bodqreka: one day :) no, really I just wanted to confirm that it's working to start boasting :)01:52
raven3x7topyli lol thats gonna be a long wait01:53
rekabodq: heh01:53
rekabodq: they're shipping it for free....and you expect a running commentary? :)01:53
fanskapetsearcher`,  and then just mount them in fstab01:53
bodqreka: I expect at least "you request has been accepted" message :)01:54
fanskapetsearcher`,  if you give the partition the "user" option in fstab it will be inserted in your "computer" window in GNOME01:54
sebastianHappyFool, I was more thinking of my settings and extensions.01:54
rekabodq: wasn't there one?  from what i've seen: 4-10 weeks, depending on where you are.01:55
rekasebastian: i think fanskapet's talking to *you*. :)01:56
fanskapetHappyFool, dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib32/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.distrib by xorg-driver-fglrx'01:56
fanskapetdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb (--unpack):01:56
HappyFoolsebastian: sorry, i don't know. as someone else said, that may be tricky01:56
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jamesDOODHello everybody01:56
fanskapetthat is was apt-get install xorg-driver.... gives me01:56
jamesDOODI have a new question01:56
HappyFoolfanskapet: hmm. maybe remove the mesa drivers ?01:56
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jamesDOODHow do you setup a creative Modem Blaster pci card in Warty?01:57
HappyFoolfanskapet: oh, no01:57
fanskapethmm don't have them installed i think. but it's worth to check :P01:57
jamesDOODIt seems like it is not automatically detected01:57
fanskapetHappyFool, what? :)01:57
HappyFoolfanskapet: the package is conflicting with itself... ?01:57
jamesDOODactually, it cannot be found at all (supposedly)01:57
raven3x7jamesDOOD, its a winmodem01:57
fanskapetHappyFool, hmm well i dunno really01:57
fanskapetI try installing the one from sunaptic package manager right now01:58
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jamesDOODI thought the modem blaster had their own rubbish going on board01:58
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jamesDOODie. not a winmodem01:58
fanskapetahh yeah sebastian even :D not searcher`  :)01:58
HappyFoolfanskapet: '.. by xorg-driver-fglrx conflicts with ... by xorg-driver-fglrx'01:58
jamesDOODok then, is there anythign I can do to get it to work?01:58
fanskapethmm odd :)01:58
raven3x7jamesDOOD, is it external?01:58
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jamesDOODinternal01:58
HappyFoolfanskapet: do you have an xorg-driver-fglrx package already installed?01:58
fanskapetand how is there any way  to  solve this issue? :D01:58
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raven3x7there is let me get the link01:59
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fanskapetI don't think so or well01:59
HappyFoolfanskapet: try 'dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx|grep ^ii'01:59
tombshi ppl01:59
heatxsinkwith the sessions -> startup programs tab01:59
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ogahello01:59
anubistext not visible01:59
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fanskapetHappyFool, didn't output anything at all in bash01:59
heatxsinkhow do I make sure to invoke a startup program?01:59
raven3x7jamesDOOD, http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ detailed instructions available there01:59
rommeris it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?02:00
raven3x7!binary02:00
uboturaven3x7: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:00
HappyFoolfanskapet: so, not installed. Sorry, i don't have a clue -- at a guess, that package is fubared. I can't see how it can conflict with itself02:00
raven3x7dawm02:00
tiagohi i just install gnome under kubuntu and im having problems would some one be able to help me out?02:00
fanskapetagh02:00
fanskapetwell it is a totally new installation02:00
jamesDOODraven: Thanks!02:00
tiagoim in gnome now02:00
fanskapetso maybe it's worth just reinstalling ubuntu instead of hunting down this error :D02:00
ogahello. im running irssi-text right now, how do i get back to the console. without quiting irssi02:00
HappyFoolfanskapet: i don't know -- haven't played with amd64/ati at all02:01
tiagothe pannal is empty02:02
tiagoand its very small02:02
james_how is the wine command used? I mean when launching a program i do     #wine <path to game.exe> -openGL02:02
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tiagoall there is is a computer and trash icon02:02
tiagothis is gay02:02
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tiagoand you guys arnt very helpfull...02:02
rommeris it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?02:02
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tiagolooks like its back to kde for me02:02
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james_Accept it comes up with -openGL is not a regonised command?02:03
raven3x7james_, i doubt wine can play games. at least it cant play most02:03
HappyFooljames_: maybe put the -openGL before the command (this is a guess)02:03
james_raven3x7: its not game, 3d graphics software02:03
bodqraven3x7: it can02:03
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james_It loads the program fine, but when the openGL viewport trys to kick in it boots me out02:04
rekaoga: can't be done afaik, unless you're using screen02:04
raven3x7really? i though the reason it couldnt is why cedega is around02:04
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da_bon_bonhi all02:04
james_is their a way in which I could test openGL within the wine enviroment?02:04
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HappyFooljames_: try to find a simple windows opengl program02:05
raven3x7bodq, really? i though because it couldnt is why cedega is around02:05
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u11rkosomeone spanish??02:05
james_it can run games fine02:05
hoofhow do upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.1102:05
HappyFoolu11rko: try /join #ubuntu-es02:05
HappyFoolhoof: upgrade from warty to hoary ;)02:05
da_bon_bonhow do fedora and ubuntu differ ? (apart from rpm and deb core..)02:05
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sJaMhuman vs bluecurve02:06
james_Ok, will do02:06
raven3x7ubuntu is faster imho02:06
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: ubuntu comes on 1 cd. runlevels are different, as are the /etc/init.d/ services setup02:06
sJaMapt-get upgrade02:06
da_bon_bonoh02:06
da_bon_bonok02:06
hoofHppyfool, can we talk in private so i can take your instructions clearly?02:06
hoofHappyfool, can we talk in private so i can take your instructions clearly?02:06
da_bon_bonother ?02:06
bodqraven3x7: take that as my sobjective opinion, please :)02:06
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da_bon_bonthanks, HappyFool :)02:06
HappyFoolhoof: if you like02:06
da_bon_boni am a long time fedora and slackware user -- will i feel at-home with ubuntu ?02:07
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: there's probably many more, but that's what stuck out to me (ex fedora-user)02:07
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HappyFoolda_bon_bon: well, it's still linux ;)02:07
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fanskapetahh02:07
fanskapetsolved my problem02:07
raven3x7bodq, i always consider opinions subjective ;) my own included. i never tried that is why i was curious02:08
HappyFoolfanskapet: what was it?02:08
da_bon_bonHappyFool: ok..02:08
anubisdamn shame I got to use gaim to get on irc because the "new" xchat is visually impared02:08
da_bon_boni have a DAMN slow net, so i almost never update -- not even security -- would that be a major issue ?02:08
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fanskapetHappyFool, I removed the /usr/share/fglrx folder02:08
anubisPackage irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:08
anubisThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:08
anubisis only available from another source02:08
anubisE: Package irssi has no installation candidate02:08
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anubisI'm seeing these errors often02:08
anubiswhats with that?02:09
fanskapetand removed all the libGL rows in /var/lib/dpkg/diversions02:09
HappyFoolfanskapet: ok. bizarre02:09
rekasigh02:09
anubisirssi is no longer availible?02:09
rekaanubis: there is no irssi package02:09
linuksoanubis: irssi comes with the default install02:09
fanskapetand then reinstalled it via apt-get02:09
fanskapet:)02:09
rekaanubis: install irssi-text02:09
fanskapetyeah a bit odd.. but.. well well :)02:09
da_bon_bonHappyFool: i have a DAMN slow net, so i almost never update -- not even security -- would that be a major issue ?02:09
HappyFoolfanskapet: ok. i would never ever have known that.02:09
bodqraven3x7: it runs Quake3 quite fine. (not that it made sense in the first place -- q3 has native linux binaries -- but as a experiment...) . I'm not certain abuot the D3D support, though.02:10
da_bon_bonHappyFool: coz, fedora, imo, is stable enough not to update frequently.02:10
rommeris it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?02:10
sebastianAfter installing KDE can I run it without exiting Gnome?02:10
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: it's recommended to update; security updates are released fairly regularly02:10
linuksorommer: everything is possible...02:10
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: i removed large apps like openoffice and evolution so i don't need to update them02:11
rommerlinkuso: well, not EVERYTHING02:11
rekasebastian: no,  it's a desktop environment, not a program.02:11
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da_bon_bonHappyFool: but i am on a 2kbps pay per minute net02:11
AlexBOhello!I'd like to burn a cd, but #cdrecord scanbus doesn't find any CD Record, although Nautilus Cd Burner and k3b do. How can it be?02:11
da_bon_bondial up02:11
bodqraven3x7: oh well, my lil 3d3 appie doesn't work under wine, but it might be as well a but in my appie.02:11
james_HappyFool: In Cedega the small openGL game works fine, in Wine it comes up with 'Can't Create DplayPeer'. So it shows Opengl works more or less... Still the app does not work in Cedgra as well02:11
raven3x7bodq interesting. im quite sure wine doesnt do d3d but i suppose it cold run opengl windows games. makes sense actually02:11
bodqraven3x7: but d3d calls are working02:12
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bodqraven3x7: i'm getting "invalid surface" errors02:12
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raven3x7bodq hmmm02:12
HappyFooljames_: well, it sounds like you've reached the limits of wine -- i'm afraid i can't help further02:12
sebastianOk, can I set the QT theme from Gnome then? The default is terribly ugly.02:12
bodqraven3x7: Wine 2005052402:12
james_HappyFool: Np, just i know other people have managed to get the program working without any errors. So ive got a feeling that im doing something wrong this end somehow02:13
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: ouch02:13
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AlexBOI've looked for it, but I haven't found anything.Can anybody help me?02:13
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: but, if you're not on the net much anyway, and it's a single-user machine, maybe it's not too critical02:13
raven3x7bodq im not that experienced with wine really.02:13
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rekasebastian: gnome-theme-manager02:13
bodqraven3x7: neither am I, just experimenting :)02:14
anubis_terrible02:14
bodqraven3x7: ok, leave this discussion to #wine02:14
da_bon_bonhehe.. ok, HappyFool02:14
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AlexBOhello!I'd like to burn a cd, but #cdrecord scanbus doesn't find any CD Record, although Nautilus Cd Burner and k3b do. How can it be?02:15
da_bon_bonHappyFool: is the live cd as good as the install cd ?02:15
HappyFoolAlexBO: cdrecord has some issues with new linux kernels, or so it looks like.02:16
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da_bon_bonHappyFool: i want to have "taste" of ubuntu b4 installing it.02:16
AlexBOHappyFool: how can i make it work?02:16
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HappyFoolda_bon_bon: i'm not sure what you're asking. they both work... ? oh, yeah, the livecd is a good test02:16
HappyFoolAlexBO: i don't know; you probably can't02:16
sebastianreka, No I wan't to edit the qt theme.02:17
sebastian*change02:17
da_bon_bonHappyFool: what made you shift from fedora to ubuntu ?02:17
AlexBOHappyFool: REALLY? wao....that's good02:17
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parkajust came in to let me buy you all a drink. especially topyli. i finally managed to stop nautilus from going nuts. please don't ever change the user-defined symbols in nautilus. it caused me a lot of stress today02:17
da_bon_bonHappyFool: and, coming from fedora, i think you are accustomed to lack of mp3 and video .. :) how did you go about it ?02:17
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HappyFoolda_bon_bon: curiousity made me shift, and i liked it. also, apt-get is really nice.02:20
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: for audio/video stuff, you can read this:02:20
HappyFool!restricted02:20
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:20
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: that's a recipe for installing codecs etc, and a dvd-decoding lib02:20
da_bon_bonoh.. ok, HappyFool, thanks a lot :)02:21
HappyFoolda_bon_bon: i listen to mp3's and watch dvd's on my machine fairly regularly without any problems02:21
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parkathanks for staying with me in that crucial hour ;-) wish all of you a happy unbuggy sunday. bye02:21
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da_bon_bonman! backports already has gcc4 ! w00t!02:22
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moZeri'm having problems with /boot on a raid1 partition not starting correctly02:22
moZeri'm dropped into a shell during boot, and it complains that /dev/md0 isn't present02:22
moZerbut it is, and if i mount it manually and exit the shell, all is well02:22
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olivierI'm looking to 6.8.2-36 xorg packages, where can I find them?02:23
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HappyFoolmoZer: at a guess, add md (and raid1) to /etc/modules02:23
gyaresuevening (aus) all.02:23
sebastianHmm I downloaded Open Office and extracted the .deb files into a folder, but when I double click them they only get opened in my archiver. How do I install?02:23
ermac`can someone give me the quide for the screenresolution problem???02:23
HappyFoolmoZer: i don't know if the initrd image needs to updated, somehow -- i'm not too familiar with that02:23
moZerHappyFool:  i have / on a raid0 device, and it starts and mounts correctly02:23
gyaresusebastian, why don't you 'apt-get install openoffice'  ?02:23
Corvusdid anyone had problems with it's dvd unit ? input/output errors02:23
yahalomhow do i close port 22?02:23
sebastiangyaresu, Because that is very outdated.02:24
ermac`can someone give me the quide for the screenresolution problem???02:24
gyaresusebastian, right. good luck.02:24
othernoobgyaresu: the OOo2 version in the repos is crap, ie broke02:24
yahalomermac`, what sur prob?02:24
moZeryahalom:  you terminate the application that is listening on the port, probably sshd02:24
Corvusmy dvd unit is giving read errors, but the unit is well as it works on other os02:24
HappyFoolmoZer: hrm. ok, i'm not a raid user (yet), so I can't supply any expert answers02:24
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gyaresuothernoob, broke? really. :(02:24
othernoobgyaresu: yes.02:24
ermac`yahalom i cant get higher then 800*600 screen reso... normally i get above 102402:24
yahalommoZer, but i opened the port in order to listen to it? or u saying that ssh did that?02:24
yahalomermac`, did u add a higher resolution to ur xorg.conf?02:25
da_bon_bonthanks a lot, HappyFool, catch ya later :)02:25
fanskapet_ahh there we go.. hw-OGL support aswell :P02:25
HappyFoolchrs da_bon_bon02:25
ermac`its something with horizsync thats the problem... yahalom02:25
gyaresu!resolution02:25
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:25
ermac`thx02:25
gyaresuermac`, welcome.02:25
moZeryahalom:  netstat -tlnp as root, then you'll see what process is listening on port 2202:25
ermac`XD02:26
moZeryahalom:  sudo netstat -tlnp02:26
gyaresuermac`, find out your video monitor and vsync hsync rates...02:26
gyaresuerirlar, vsync (vertical) hsync (horizontal)02:26
da_bon_boncya all02:26
Corvusno one had problems with a dvd unit in the past ?02:26
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gyaresuCorvus, plenty.02:27
yahalommoZer, sshd02:27
gyaresuCorvus, have you enabled DMA? (that shoudn't be it.)02:27
sebastianHow do I make Ubuntu keep using the resolution I set?02:27
yahalommoZer, so once i close the connection it will end?02:27
Corvusyes, it's enabled by default02:27
gyaresuCorvus, tried multiple disks (had to ask)02:28
gyaresusebastian, 2 servers and a dfi lanparty sli-d gig-corsair ram....02:28
Corvusyes, and except dvdrw, i tried any media02:28
yahalomermac`, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste it at pastebin.com and then give me the link02:28
gyaresusebastian, what better way to MAKE yourself learn about computers... :)02:28
yahalommoZer, ?02:29
gyaresusebastian, have you messed with your xorg.config?02:29
rekaCorvus: as in burning?  try a slower speed02:29
Corvususing hdaparm it gives me this error02:29
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Corvus HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument02:29
gyaresuCorvus, can you preface your comments to me with my name please. i need the beeps :)02:29
Corvusams, ok02:29
gyaresuCorvus, what are you using to burn?02:30
gyaresuCorvus, software i mean.02:30
Corvusgnomebaker02:30
moZeryahalom:  /etc/init.d/sshd stop02:30
gyaresuCorvus, got bandwidth? k3b.02:30
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gyaresuCorvus, it's still really devel.02:30
yahalommoZer, and that will close the port? and we're safe again?02:30
olivierls02:30
gyaresuCorvus, IMO02:30
olivieroops02:30
sebastiangyaresu, Well, I like learning about computers, but I prefer to do it in my own pace...02:30
moZeryahalom: that  will stop the ssh server yes02:31
yahalommoZer, thanx man02:31
moZeryahalom: why do you think that running sshd makes you unsafe?02:31
gyaresusebastian, should have seen me trying to burn a disk on 3 comps last night that HAD to be done. (ended up installing K3b on the main box just to get it done....)02:31
othernoobCorvus: are you sure DMA is enabled? because it isn't by default02:32
sebastiangyaresu, Hehe, the best cd burning tool I've used is a windows port of Linux software.02:33
sebastianWith some GUI wrappers.02:33
gyaresusebastian, not nero then...02:33
zklmy last saved session and the failsafe gnome session is borked...how can i fix that?02:33
Corvusothernoob: i was looking that now, i remembered that i enabled it in the past, as i saw now, it was disabled as you say, i will try it now02:34
sebastianNot nero, I don't like it, unstandard gui and too many windows.02:34
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gyaresuCorvus, /etc/hdparm.conf02:34
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othernoobgyaresu: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd* would work for the moment02:35
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Corvusgyaresu, yes, i just changed it now, it will be enough a mount -a to enable the changes ?02:35
othernoobCorvus: mount -a has nothing to do with it02:35
gyaresuothernoob, Corvus othernoob's line is enough.02:35
gyaresuCorvus, /etc/hdparm.conf to make it permanent.02:35
humehi...i'm doing my very first installation of ubuntu - and get a bit confused: when is the root password set?02:36
HappyFoolhume: it isn't; ubuntu uses sudo by default02:36
HappyFool!sudo02:36
othernoobCorvus: to check whether DMA is enabled for a cd/dvd drive do sudo hdparm -v /dev/hd*, * being c for example if it is hdc02:36
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:36
gyaresuCorvus, the wiki needs work but this will help http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom02:36
HappyFoolhume: you can read that for more02:36
Corvusgyaresu, ok, i have do both changes02:36
sebastianThere should be a "fix gui for all small tasks" project, in Python. Much of the annoying small tasks that you need to do in config files could easily be GUI-fied, it'd make Linux a much better os for all of us that likes clicking rather than typing.02:36
hume!sudo02:36
humethx02:37
sebastianIf there was one I'd like to help.02:37
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moZerdoes everydoby know that disabling pango in firefox will make reflow twice as fast?02:37
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sebastianpango?02:37
gyaresu!tell hume about factoids02:37
gyaresusebastian, you aint got the CLI groove then :) it's da bomb!02:38
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HappyFoolsebastian: i get the idea the gui is being developed along those lines -- i think breezy will have gui-level mounting, for example02:39
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othernoobhow disgusting..gui mounting..02:40
concept10moZer, whats pango02:40
moZeryou can try it by opening the default home page file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html and resizing the window for a while, then edit /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox and set MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 and export MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO, then resize the home page again02:40
gyaresuothernoob, more of that damn 'just works' mentality :)02:40
zklmy last saved session and the failsafe gnome session is borked so that no panels/panel widgets/menus are drawn...any ideas on where to start tracking down why this is happening?02:40
moZerlines 154 and 15502:40
othernoob:)02:40
concept10moZer, what do you have your pipeline requests set to?02:41
gyaresuzkl,  no. what was the last thing you did?02:41
moZernote that it says "MOZ_ENABLE_PANGO=1", but changning that to 0 does not disable pango, you need do do like i said above02:41
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moZerconcept10:  pipeline requests?02:41
zklgyaresu: i rearranged the panels & widgets, and logged out w/ save session02:42
concept10open about:config and type pipeline in the search box02:42
gyaresuzkl, k. i'm looking.02:42
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concept10moZer, did you find it?02:43
gyaresuzkl, i'm guessing theres a .session file somewhere...02:43
sebastianHmm, isn't there possible to run two x sessions, on on f7 and one on f8?02:43
Corvusgyaresu, i have been looking at hdparm more, there is an example for a cdrom units, what for is interrupt_unmask ?02:43
HappyFoolsebastian: yeah applications -> system tools -> new login02:43
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wingswhat command should I issue if I wanted to format hdb1?02:44
nightswimmkfs.yourfs /dev/hdb102:44
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gyaresunightswim, wings not quite...02:45
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gyaresunightswim, wings mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (for example)02:46
wingsI see02:46
zklgyaresu: /.gnome2/session, probably...is there a way i can step through each line of that script?02:47
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mschI'm using Ubuntu Hoary Server on an old PC and there is a several minute delay between me logging on through xdm and the startup of fluxbox. During that time the X-Process hogs the CPU and I don't understand why, nor how to stop that. Anyone got any clues?02:47
HappyFoolmsch: not specifically; look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if you see any problems02:48
the_walruscan anyone tell me how to get a java development environment installed?02:48
sebastianHow do I rum kde in a separate session to the gnome session?02:49
HappyFool!java02:49
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.02:49
mschaccording to the logs, there's no explanation for the delay.02:49
the_walrusthanks02:49
HappyFoolthe_walrus: take a look at that wiki page; make sure you get the jdk-*bin (i forget the complete name)02:49
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benkong2hello everyone I am having major troubles with setting up a printer and cups has a message administrative tasks disabled. what can I do?02:51
gyaresuzkl, i can't find a sensible answer. ;you can always try 'mv' ing it. restart gnome.02:52
mschHappyFool: The delay doesn't generate any logs. xdm starts Xsession and that's it: X uses 100% CPU02:52
gyaresu!printers02:52
ubotusomebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters02:52
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HappyFoolmsch: sorry, i don't know what could be wrong. if you're a hacker, you can mabye try strace; otherwise, i'm out of ideas02:52
gyaresubenkong2, is your printer supported?02:52
lesshastecan anyone recommend an app to play midi files?02:52
benkong2gyaresu, yes it needs hpljet3 driver02:53
mschHappyFool: Without being a hacker, strace only revealed lots of SIG_ALRT calls, but that seems normal.02:53
benkong2ubotu, thanks02:53
ubotubenkong2: de rien02:53
gyaresubenkong2, i don't know that driver but have you installed it?02:53
benkong2ubotu, de rien??02:53
ubotubenkong2: Bugger all, i dunno02:53
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gyaresu!factoids02:54
ubotufactoids is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:54
benkong2gyaresu, my assumption was that since printers > administration gave me the option it was installed02:54
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benkong2gyaresu, If I could enable cups at localhost:631 I could fix it using cups and gimp-print02:55
gyaresubenkong2, cups problems too?02:56
benkong2gyaresu, when i browse to localhost:631 cups administration page is there i did grep and the cupsd dameon is running however in the cups admin page there is a small red banner directing me to use the  system-> printer menu choices because administration privilidges have been turned off.02:57
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gyaresubenkong2, have you enabled a root user?02:58
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zwnji have problems with firefox 1.0.4 from ubuntu-backport. :( anyone has too?02:59
WinuxHello02:59
sJaMwell benkong2 then you have to edit the cups conf02:59
zwnjit hangs for seconds while installing extensions, also when loading external player02:59
WinuxNo, but I have a problem with my CD-Rom02:59
benkong2gyaresu, yes root user enabled03:00
WinuxFUCK GNOMEBAKER!03:00
gyaresuWinux, language please...03:00
benkong2sJaM, edit cups conf let me check.....03:00
concept10Winux, that is not necessary03:00
WinuxIt doesn't work03:00
WinuxAnother failure03:01
gyaresuWinux, try K3b if gnome baker is bj0rked... 100meg dload but maybe if you need it...03:01
gyaresuWinux, it's still devel...03:01
Winuxk3b doesn't work too03:01
nophixhow do you add a user to a group? 'sudo adduser -g cdrom loser' doesn't work :/03:01
gyaresunophix, 'sudo vi /etc/group'03:01
concept10Winux, you might have other problems - it may not be the application03:01
WinuxArgh03:01
gyaresuWinux, short deep breaths...03:02
concept10Winux, what doesnt it do?03:02
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nophixgyaresu: how? audio:x:29:nophix,loser ?03:02
azolnophix: System --> Administration --> Users and Groups03:02
gyaresubenkong2, I'm not really helping here....03:02
Winuxk3b can't unlock my Cd-Burner03:03
nophixazol: sorry, don't have those menus :)03:03
WinuxWhat's wrong with it??? :'(03:03
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gyaresunophix, yeah. add your username to the end of the group you want to be part of.03:03
benkong2gyaresu, np i am checking cupsd.conf to look for settings thanks03:03
gyaresuWinux, reboot. something has it locked or ... 'sudo eject'03:03
nophixgyaresu: ok, thanks03:03
Winuxhmm03:04
Winuxokay03:04
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othernoobgyaresu: maybe he should try unmounting it first...03:06
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gyaresuothernoob, Winux try unmounting it first 'umount -l /dev/hdc' or whatever your cdrom is.03:08
sJaMbenkong2, I think you have to setup a password for root03:08
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gyaresuothernoob, Winux try unmounting it first 'sudo umount -l /dev/hdc' or whatever your cdrom is. (sorry)03:08
sJaMand just login as root03:08
sJaMwhich is not the ubuntu way of doing things03:08
benkong2sJaM, I may have it let me check03:08
gyaresusJaM, benkong2 no.03:09
sJaMbecause03:09
gyaresusJaM, benkong2 cups is as the cupsys user....03:09
benkong2gyaresu, k03:09
othernoobor sudo umount -f /dev/hdX ...X being the letter of your cd/dvd drive03:09
sJaMk03:09
sJaM /admin has AuthClass System03:09
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sJaMand System means any valid user belonging to SystemGroup03:10
sJaMwhich is lpadmin03:10
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gyaresusJaM, you may be right but i couldn't log in to my cups at localhost:631 with root:passwd03:11
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sJaMyes03:11
dylan_why cant the gnome cd writing front end write audio CDs properly?03:11
sJaMthat is because03:11
sJaMthat line03:11
sJaMsetting up SystemGroup lpadmin03:11
sJaMis commented out03:11
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sJaMand the default cups behaviour is03:11
sJaMThe default varies depending on the operating system, but03:12
sJaM    707 # will be "sys", "system", or "root" (checked for in that order.)03:12
gyaresusJaM, no cups expert here. (cause it's usually worked for me over the years)03:12
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benkong2gyaresu, sJaM ; thanks got it fixed one must use the correct port and ubuntu rocks works like a dream using the menu. This distro is sooooo cool03:12
benkong2gyaresu, sJaM ; thanks for your suggestions guided me to the solution03:12
gyaresubenkong2, correct port?03:12
Winuxhm03:13
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benkong2gyaresu, actually 9100 is the port I have my jetdirect printer driver at 192.168.1.60 not 192.168.1.80 as I had put in the dialog did a ping and remembered the correct address.03:13
gyaresuWinux, :) slow deep breaths Winux03:13
gyaresubenkong2, nice. congrats.03:14
benkong2gyaresu, thanks03:14
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sJaMuncommenting line 712 didn't worked :(03:15
sJaMthough03:15
WinuxWhen I start burning a CD with K3B there comes an error-message: couldn't unlock CD-Rom03:15
sJaMwhat did you did ben_d03:16
sJaMsorry03:16
sJaMwhat did you did benkong203:16
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benkong2sJaM, actually 9100 is the port I have my jetdirect printer driver at 192.168.1.60 not 192.168.1.80 as I had put in the dialog did a ping and remembered the correct address.03:16
gyaresuWinux, did you eject the cd that was in there?03:16
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sJaMso you still can't come in cups using the browser ?03:16
benkong2sJaM, short story i had the wrong ip address03:16
gyaresuWinux, (sounds like a reboot)03:16
WinuxYes, but that opens the CD-Rom, not the CD-Writer03:17
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gyaresuWinux, I think it may be a 'lock' file but that's just off the top of my head.03:17
yahalomguys can someone explain what would cause DVDs to play choppy on a ADM XP 2000+ 200MB RAM?03:18
corali can't seem to find an ubuntu package for bamboo-dht (.org) anywhere in the various sources i have here.03:18
coraldoes anyone else know if a package exists?03:18
yahalomi installed the k7 kernel maybe i should use the 386?03:18
gyaresu!tell yahalom about dma03:18
LinuxJonesyahalom, maybe dma is not enabled on your dvd drive03:18
moZerany way to build a deb from sun jdk to integrate with the package management?03:18
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yahalomgyaresu, than03:18
yahalomx03:18
yahalomLinuxJones, how do i enable it?03:18
gyaresuyahalom, welcome.03:19
scoonhey all, anyone here switching to virtual terminals w/ breezy ?03:19
sebastianHow can I install verdana?03:19
scoonor having problems doing so ?03:19
gyaresu!fonts03:19
ubotumethinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto03:19
moZer!java03:19
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.03:19
coralheh03:19
coralubotu++03:19
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LinuxJonesyahalom, you can check by typing sudo hdparm /dev/hdc (usually)03:20
othernoobwrong LinuxJones03:20
coralwhat's the proper way to request an ubuntu package, knowing that it may be ignored at will?03:20
gyaresucoral, what do you mean?03:20
othernoobLinuxJones: it's sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdX to check03:20
yahalomLinuxJones, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom?03:21
jlhow do i make a command run when i boot?03:21
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coralwell03:21
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othernoobyahalom: -d1 will enable DMA.. but not cdrom03:21
gyaresuothernoob,  nah. LinuxJones is right... :)03:21
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corali would be a very bad maintainer if i were to do it, and i don't have any experience with ubuntu's package format03:21
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yahalomothernoob, i'm scared to mess with it, cos last time i did my gnome ended up takign 3 minutes to log in.03:22
gyaresuothernoob, -d1 will enable dma on optical03:22
LinuxJonesyahalom, nope your /dev/hdc (depending on which ide controller your dvd drive is connected to)\03:22
DAWKIRSTHi.03:22
coralso i guess i'm curious where most people post ideas for new packages03:22
DAWKIRSTHow can I add a printer in OpenOffice?03:22
othernoobyahalom instead of cdrom it has to be hdX ..X being c for example if your cddrive is hdc03:22
yahalomLinuxJones, i think its hdb and dma is on03:22
gyaresucoral, debian-builder03:22
othernoobgyaresu: you're right. -v isn't needed..interesting03:23
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gyaresucoral, you build them. you don't ask people to build them. :)03:23
bassembghi room03:23
yahalomLinuxJones, sorry03:23
DAWKIRSTHow can I add a printer in OpenOffice?03:23
gyaresubassembg, hi03:23
yahalomLinuxJones, its hda and dma is off03:23
yahalomLinuxJones, so thats the reason its choppy?03:23
LinuxJonesyahalom, you can type mount to see which controller it's connected to ie ... /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=willy)03:23
gyaresuDAWKIRST, sys >> admin >> printing03:23
bassembgi've down load xine but i don't know how to install it03:24
bassembgany help03:24
gyaresuyahalom, yes to the choppy.03:24
LinuxJonesyahalom, yes probably, but it's rather unusual to have a cd/dvd drive connected to hda03:24
DAWKIRSTgyaresu, I have added the printer to my PC. But it's not there in OpenOffice...03:24
gyaresubassembg, why have you donwnloaded xine and not apt-get'd03:24
yahalomLinuxJones, hdb is the hard drive. i connected it as slave.03:24
gyaresuDAWKIRST, rebooted?03:25
yahalomLinuxJones, so how would i enable it? sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom03:25
Winuxhm, it seems to work now03:25
bassembgwell i search fro free avi player software and this what i found03:25
DAWKIRSTgyaresu, you mean the PC?03:25
LinuxJonesyahalom, hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hda03:25
gyaresuDAWKIRST, aye.03:25
gyaresuLinuxJones, -c1 -d103:25
gyaresuLinuxJones, no gap.03:25
gyaresuLinuxJones, as i seem to remember...03:26
LinuxJonesgyaresu, the gaps work :)03:26
gyaresuLinuxJones, coo.03:26
bassembgso how can i install it03:26
gyaresuLinuxJones, might be in the hdparm.conf file then...03:26
LinuxJonesgyaresu, yes03:26
gyaresubassembg, why aren't you using apt-get?03:26
other|studyLinuxJones: why -c1?03:26
gyaresubassembg, just wanna know where you're at...03:27
bassembgi don't know it03:27
gyaresubassembg, synaptic?03:27
LinuxJonesother|study, -c enables 32 bit mode03:27
LinuxJonesother|study, it's usually on but sometimes it is set to 16 bit mode03:27
gyaresubassembg, linux experience between 1 && 10?03:27
bassembgwell i want an avi player03:27
bassembgwell i thing 303:28
bassembgthink 303:28
gyaresubassembg, have you enabled extra sources? in your sources.list?03:28
yahalomLinuxJones, can i paste my output to u somehow so u can tell me if its on now?03:28
bassembgi don't know , how i do that?03:28
gyaresubassembg, (don't tell anyone i told you so but ubuntuguide.org is a good quick and easy list. with no explanations though)03:29
yahalomwhats the pastebin channel?03:29
other|studyLinuxJones: i know. but why not -c3?03:29
LinuxJonesyahalom, put it on www.pastebin.ca and post the link in here03:29
gyaresupaste.ubuntu.nl03:29
gyaresupaste.ubuntulinux.nl03:29
gyaresusorry03:29
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heatxsinkls03:29
LinuxJonesother|study, I don't know what -3 means03:29
yahalomLinuxJones, http://pastebin.ca/1790903:29
LinuxJonesyahalom, perfect :)03:30
yahalomLinuxJones, so now that should sort out the choppiness? or is there more i need to do?03:30
yahalomLinuxJones, could it be the kernel?03:30
LinuxJonesyahalom, that should be it try playing your movie now03:31
coralgyaresu: that viewpoint excludes participation in package selection by all who are unable to create packages, which seems sort of not the best03:31
LinuxJonesyahalom, nah03:31
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coralgiven that it's common i wasn't expecting any success with my hunt03:31
gyaresucoral, yes. pay money. canonical did :)03:31
coralokay. i want one package - how much does it cost?03:32
yahalomLinuxJones, thanx03:32
gyaresucoral, interesting question. i work for 110/hr03:32
LinuxJonesother|study, it probably doesn't matter but It's an old habit that I have picked up over the years :D03:32
gyaresucoral, AU$03:32
LinuxJonesyahalom, :)03:32
gyaresucoral, but i only work on things that interest me :)03:33
other|studyLinuxJones: i just tried to do it on my dvd drive but..eh..i don't think it's working03:33
gyaresucoral, point is that this damn linux relies on good faith and hobbies.03:33
DAWKIRSTIf I enable 'Detect LAN printer' under printing, what exactly do I gain through this?03:33
coralbamboo-dht exists because of someone's hobby, and so does Net::OpenDHT03:33
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gyaresuDAWKIRST, do you have printers on network printers?03:34
coralso i could talk to them instead03:34
coralmore focused, more chance of care03:34
LinuxJonesother|study, you have the correct /dev entry for your dvd drive ?03:34
coralcool03:34
gyaresucoral, what are you after FMI03:34
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other|studyLinuxJones: of course. ignore my nickname ;)03:34
alberahi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 did an update and when i restarted the icons on gnome-panel is gone. any ide what i should do?03:34
DAWKIRSTI have a local printer (which I couldn't get working); and I have a printer on the network as well (which I'm trying to get to work...)03:35
sebastiancoral, What is it you need?03:35
LinuxJonesother|study, heh03:35
DAWKIRSTgyaresu, I have a local printer (which I couldn't get working); and I have a printer on the network as well (which I'm trying to get to work...)03:35
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other|studyLinuxJones: eh sorry, my usual name is othernoob :p03:35
gyaresuDAWKIRST, then you may want to Detect LAN printer03:35
corali'm curious to play around with bamboo-dht and finding that it doesn't exist at all anywhere on the web in conjunction with the word 'ubuntu', and isn't in the debian package dawell03:35
other|studyLinuxJones: it just does nothing after being asked for the password03:35
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coralsmash03:36
gyaresuDAWKIRST, i don't know exactly the machinations however.03:36
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DAWKIRSTgyaresu, ty.03:36
other|studyLinuxJones: neither can i access it with a simple sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdd03:36
coralit seems odd that i'd be the first person looking for it03:36
coralbut maybe that's not odd03:36
coralprobably not true though03:36
LinuxJonesother|study, you have a dick in the drive ?03:37
LinuxJonesother|study, arch disk03:37
other|studyLinuxJones: no i don't have my dick in the drive :p and no, no disk..03:37
WinuxOkay, it works. Thanks03:37
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gyaresucoral, Distibuted Hash Table?03:37
coralnod. neat stuff.03:38
LinuxJonesother|study, that's odd03:38
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other|studyindeed03:39
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gyaresucoral, so why can't you just compile from source?03:39
gyaresucoral, and they have a mailing list.03:39
corali, er, already did.03:40
alberahi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 did an update and when i restarted the icons on gnome-panel is gone. any ide what i should do?03:40
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sebastiancoral, It looks like made for developers? Why would you make a deb out of that?03:40
Pie-makeranyone have experience with scim in kde?03:41
gyaresualbera, sorry dont' know.03:41
coralsebastian: it's a distributed hash table database server03:41
gyaresuPie-maker, tried #kubuntu ?03:41
DAWKIRSTalbera, is the bottom bar still there?03:41
coral20 byte keys, 1024 byte values, multiple values allowed per key, ttl expiry per value.03:41
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coralanyways, i was just asking if anyone had heard of a package for it03:42
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coraldidn't mean to fire off the "you don't need a package to use it" thread, sorry03:42
bob2you could package it yourself03:43
bob2or ask someone else to do it by filing a RFP (request for package) bug in Debian03:43
gyaresucoral, there's a sensible answer.03:43
coralmm, okay03:44
coraloh, the debian bugtracker. heh.03:44
bob2one day all bug trackers will be as useful as debian's03:44
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bob2hopefully03:44
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coraldidn't occur to me to check both.  neat.  thanks!03:44
bigfoot1hello. one way I use my computer is to record my journal/diary. Is there a good enough voice-recognition program out there for us folks?03:45
gyaresuk well #kubuntu is DEAD03:45
bob2IBM has a commercial one, which I think works on linux03:45
bob2but it'd be expensive03:45
gyaresui just checked in on the channel because i sent a KDE guy in there and there is NO traffic.03:46
bigfoot1bob2, i'm looking for a free one. 8-). is there a free voice-recognition program for ubuntu?03:46
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bob2I doubt it, it seems to be one of the hardest fields of software03:46
bob2there's sphinx2-bin03:47
coralnearly 4000 wnpp bugs03:47
coralfestival, to read the diary back to you for proofreading03:47
bob2coral: yup, it turns out there's lots of software no one cares about03:48
coral(festival is just a text-to-speech tool)03:48
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coralbob2: if my software was listed here and i knew it i'd find someone who knew debian to get me set up and going03:48
coralthe trick seems to be finding it03:48
corali've actually had to make a list of them all for work03:50
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bob2you could do it yourself03:50
coral"who to tell when you release a critical update for popular open source software"03:50
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bob2you tell freshmeat and your distribution packagers03:50
bob2if it's a security fix, you email vendorsec03:51
dylan_how do i tell kde to set an application default?03:51
coralvendorsec is a list or a per-vendor thing?03:51
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bob2it's the private list where linux distributors fix security bugs before they're publically announced03:52
coralah, ok. thanks.03:52
dylan_is there a default applications setting in kde?03:52
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ashokfolks, i am unable to play wmv files, even after installing w32codec. please guide me03:55
bob2define "unable to play"03:55
bob2not every random program will use windows dlls03:55
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ashokits says demuxer not found03:56
dj28a while ago, i know that w32codecs did not support wmp11 content03:57
dj28don't know if that's the problem though03:57
bob2ashok: so, what program are you trying to use?03:57
ashokgxine03:57
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renedox_wow, there's a lot of people here04:00
yahalomhow can i graphically log in to another ubuntu box?04:00
bob2depends what you mean04:00
cyphasehey everyone04:00
renedox_hello04:00
yahalomi tried loggin in through xdmcp but that is really slow04:00
ashokdo anyone has an answer for my problem ?04:00
bob2if you mean "How do I run graphical programs emotely?", then use 'ssh -X user@remotehost programname'04:00
bob2ashok: does mplayer work?04:01
yahalombob2, if i add the x i can run the other boxes apps on my comp?04:01
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bob2yahalom: of course04:01
yahalombob2, nice. thanx man04:01
ashokbob i have totem, xmms and gxine04:01
bob2ashok: totem and xmms wont work.  try mplayer.04:02
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ashokoki bob give me few mins i shall install mplayer and let u know04:04
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kbrooksnalioth!04:06
kbrooksnalioth, working?04:06
naliothnot yet04:07
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kbrooksoh. you're in a different time zone04:07
ctp6360I LOVE ubuntu, its the best linux distro i've ever used out of about 10!04:07
egginmilk...04:07
ctp6360and that's all i have to say about that ;)04:07
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hybrid_gothhello all04:10
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hybrid_gothanyone know of a cli tool i can use to view and edit wiki's?04:12
ashokbob, it doesnt play still04:13
ashoksomeone pls help. i am unable to play wmv files in mplayer.04:14
Riddellhybrid_goth: w3m04:14
bob2I think that's unlikely04:14
bob2perhaps this one particular file can't be played04:15
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hybrid_gothRiddell: it works on wiki's? ok ty04:15
apollo2011I I have Ubuntu on my laptop and I popped it out of the base statiion without shutting down and it froze and so I cut power with the power button and now when I boot, it says the reiserfs partition is NOT clean and seems to stop botting at the Loading modules section04:16
ashokis there any other player which will solve ?04:16
apollo2011Is there anything I can do or do I just have to reinstall, the system is pretty new so it wouldnt be too hard to set up everything04:16
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hybrid_gothbob2: how is it going04:17
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GNULinuxGeekHello all.  Sorry for the dumb question but, can someone tell me what program to run to check or change my xorg conf?04:19
kbrooksGNULinuxGeek, *checks*04:19
kbrooksGNULinuxGeek, hoary or warty?04:19
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GNULinuxGeekHoary04:19
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dylan_the KSysGuard tells me that I only have 900KB of memory left, but i have 1GB of  RAM and nothing is running.  what is going on?04:20
ctp6360you have too much porn on your computer, delete it and problem will go04:20
dylan_no, be serious04:20
dylan_im worried04:20
ctp6360i am serious04:20
jag3370is there such a thing as too much porn?04:20
dylan_i dont watch porn04:20
ctp6360i would be worried too, does your mother know?04:20
bob2dylan_: ignore it04:20
bob2hybrid_goth: good thanks, yourself?04:20
ctp6360gay porn counts too dylan_04:20
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bob2GNULinuxGeek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:20
hybrid_gothGNULinuxGeek: i remember dpkg-reconfigure <x name> usually works04:20
bob2porn seems pretty off-topic, guys04:21
hybrid_gothbob2: good.04:21
bob2dylan_: the kernel is using the rest of your ram as disk cache, which is a good thing.  if applications need it, it will be freed for them.04:21
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dylan_oh thanks....and can i completely remove GNOME, or is that a bad idea04:21
hybrid_gothbob2: do you know of a package that more or less holds your hand through kernel recompiling? so that i can add wardriving to this PPC Kernel04:22
GNULinuxGeekbob2 and hybrid-goth... Thanks, that will do it.  I will not forget again.  Cheers04:22
kbrooksdylan_, um, you can.04:22
bob2hybrid_goth: "wardriving" (I assume you mean scanning) doesn't require a kernel recompile04:22
naliothbob2 troll swarms, pR0n infestations, "bob2 fan club members", #ubuntu is pretty exciting this weekend04:22
bob2unless you have an orinoco card and it needs an extra patch04:22
kbrooksdylan_, just remove the deps of (k)ubuntu-desktop04:23
hybrid_gothbob2: on PPC you do04:23
dylan_deps?04:23
kbrooksdepencies04:23
dylan_oh....can i do that via kynaptic or synaptic?04:23
bob2hybrid_goth: you have a specific card whose driver requires a specific patch to enable scanning?04:23
hybrid_gothbob2: i installed kismet and airsnort and neither works and i have seen debian pages on recompiling04:24
hybrid_gothbob2: i have the apple airport card04:24
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dylan_g2g thanks!04:24
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hybrid_gothbob2: the wireless works but the scaning doesnt04:24
crashdgday all04:25
hybrid_gothcrashd: hello04:25
LinuxJonescrashd, welcome04:25
crashdhow are we all on this wonderful day :] 04:25
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bob2wow, the wardriving sites are really annoying04:25
hybrid_gothbob2: lol04:25
ashokguys.. i downloaded certain software thru synaptics package manager. i want to take a backup of those deb files. where can i find them ?04:26
bob2hybrid_goth: get the kernel source (apt-get install kernel-source-blah), copy /boot/config-yourkernel to .config in the kernel source04:26
bob2hybrid_goth: apply the patch04:26
bob2ashok: /var/cache/apt/archives/04:26
jag3370<----linux noob - just installed ubuntu a week ago --- finally got sound working in gnome -- how do i get sound available for all other users?04:26
hybrid_gothbob2: ok ty04:26
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bob2hybrid_goth: then run 'make-kpkg --initrd04:26
ashokis the the only dir bob ?04:27
hybrid_gothbob2: thanks04:27
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ashoki see that there are only few files in it, but i have downladed lots in the past week04:27
hybrid_gothbrb04:27
heatxsinkhello all has anyone gotten their Firewire Port working in Hoary with their Audigy 2zs LiveDrive?04:27
bob2ashok: yes04:27
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overladehi all :)04:32
heatxsinkhello all has anyone gotten their Firewire Port working in Hoary with their Audigy 2zs LiveDrive?04:33
overladei don't speak english and i dont understand nothing about ubuntu :p04:33
overladeim in a big ****04:33
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LinuxJonesoverlade, what language do you speak ?04:34
overladei speak french , and spanish , but i have a lots of problem with english :)04:35
MajorNewbylooking for some help/direction to get TS2 working with games like Quake3 and Cod, etc... anyone know how to make this work??04:35
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naliothoverlade: then try #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-es04:35
overladeand you LInux Jones ?04:35
LinuxJonesoverlade, there is always #ubuntu-fr and #ubuntu-es if it's easier for you.04:35
icarohi guys04:35
LinuxJonesicaro, hello04:35
overladeah ok thanks :):)04:35
icaroanyone knows a video editor that supports also divx, mpegs etc. ?04:35
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icarohi LinuxJones :)04:36
LinuxJonesicaro, video editing is one of the areas where Linux is sorely lacking at the moment :(04:36
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icaro:(04:36
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icaroi've to use virtualdub on windows :(04:36
hybrid_gothback04:36
icarothx LinuxJones :)04:36
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ValheruLordhi all ..  I have Zoom 5510 usb adsl modem... Some people told me o install eagleUSB and i did. Are there any other things to do in order to start the adsl service04:37
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LinuxJonesicaro, there are some really cool apps in development right now but will be a few years until they are really usefull04:38
icarowhat programs?04:38
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overladehi , am i in the french server ubuntu ?04:39
LinuxJonesicaro, Jashaka kdenLive to name a few. Jashaks looks like it will be awesome :)04:39
overladeaaaaa04:39
ValheruLordhi all ..  I have Zoom 5510 usb adsl modem... Some people told me o install eagleUSB and i did. Are there any other things to do in order to start the adsl service04:39
icaro:D04:39
overladeno i dont understand , can you explain me linux jones plz :(04:39
icarook04:39
icaroi will search something about that04:39
icarothanks :)04:39
overladeim a noob in irc , linux , all of that04:39
naliothoverlade: type /join #ubuntu-fr04:39
overladeok :) thks04:40
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MajorNewbylooking for some help/direction to get TS2 working with games like Quake3 and Cod, etc... anyone know how to make this work??  :(04:40
trancehmmm does anyone know if its possible to run dcgui on the live version of ubuntu?04:40
LinuxJonesMajorNewby, what is TS2 ?04:40
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moparfan90hello all04:41
overladeteamspeak no ?04:41
MajorNewbyTeamSpeak204:41
naliothtrance: sure, just apt-get it04:41
LinuxJonesMajorNewby, ohhh04:41
naliothtrance: and have write permissions on you storage04:41
MajorNewbydoesn't like sharing sound daemon, I guess04:41
moparfan90i need a program thats like photoshot... for linux is there such a thing?04:41
tranceyeah but im using the Live version, so I cant write to anything :S04:41
lsuactiafnergimp04:41
trancejust have temp space04:41
hybrid_gothmoparfan90: gimp or gimpshop04:41
moparfan90oo04:41
moparfan90ok04:41
sebastianGimpshop?04:41
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hybrid_gothsebastian: it is a hack to make gimp look like photoshop04:42
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sebastianhybrid_goth, How good of a hack, will it have the same icons and windows behaviour too?04:43
lsuactiafnersebastian : gim04:43
lsuactiafnerp04:43
lsuactiafneroh04:43
lsuactiafnerjust use gimp dude04:43
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lsuactiafnergimp is way better than photoshops04:43
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lsuactiafnerphotoshop should be trying to look like gimp04:44
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naliothlsuactiafner: use "gimpshop"04:44
hybrid_gothsebastian: idk never used it try plasticbugs.com for more04:44
bigfoot1hello. does anybody here do even a bit of desktop publishing, or has an eye for good design and layout?04:44
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naliothlsuactiafner: dont you just love it when people just drop in and give advice out of the blue?04:44
lsuactiafneryeh04:44
sebastianlsuactiafner, I prefer Photoshop, I consider Gimps GUI both bad and ugly.04:45
naliothsebastian: so use gimpshop (at least look at it)04:45
jag3370<----linux noob - just installed ubuntu a week ago --- finally got sound working in gnome -- how do i get sound available for all other users?04:45
lsuactiafneri do the same, when i switch consoles and pass over this one i usually stay here a bit04:45
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^thehatsrule^DONT DO DRUGS.04:45
moparfan90ok thanks i have that already :)04:45
^thehatsrule^lol, no one got my joke :/04:45
naliothlsuactiafner: buy 10,000 FIBCX SELL SELL SELL04:46
naliothheh heh04:46
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bigfoot1I'm working on a one-page handout containing "Useful Japanese Phrases". Can anyone look at it and give any advice regarding layout and design, please? 8-) 8-) 8-)04:46
^thehatsrule^O.o04:46
bigfoot1Because I don't have a good eye, I mean, I don't know how to make it beautiful. But I know beauty when i see it.04:46
^thehatsrule^ill take a look bigfoot1 but dont count me on being a professional :P04:46
tranceuseful japanese phrases? like where is the bar?04:47
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bigfoot1trance, what bar?04:47
tranceit was a joke....04:47
^thehatsrule^drinking bar lol04:47
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bigfoot1^thehatsrule^, okay. please stand by. Is there a place I can paste a openoffice file on the internet?04:47
^thehatsrule^you can email it i suppose04:47
anto9usbigfoot1: I'll look at it04:48
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sebastianbigfoot1, Move things around randomly until it looks good... ;)04:48
sebastianbigfoot1,  Why not use scribus instead? Probably a better choiuce.04:48
^thehatsrule^well i can host it i guess for others to see?04:48
bigfoot1trance, oh. I'm in Japan and will be presenting a national workshop in Tokyo to this year's new/incoming participants in the JET Programme.04:48
^thehatsrule^cool04:48
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Schonhosehi all, does anybody have a clue how I can print between two ubuntu setups? (Desktop and Laptop)04:48
bigfoot1sebastian, scribus? all right. let me see if i can apt-get it.04:49
tranceok im really noob to linux, like you couldnt get more new. i want to connect to dc++, ive got valknut/dcgui now how do i run it?04:49
bigfoot1anto9us, okay. How can i show you this openoffice sxw (?) flie ?04:49
trancenalioth said i just apt-get it? what is this apt-get and what would an example cmd line be :)04:49
bigfoot1is there a "pastebin" for openoffice files ?04:49
anto9usdcc file transfer04:49
LinuxJonesbigfoot1, you can post it on pastebin.ca04:49
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SchonhoseThe Desktop has a Lexmark Z11 installed by using CUPS and it does work actually. How can I print from my laptop using a ethernet connection?04:50
bigfoot1LinuxJones, but putting it at pastebin.ca will lose all formatting, won't it?04:50
[2] BoxingFiendSchonhose: System -> Admin -> Printing, choose UNIX (lpd) connection04:50
tranceanyone? >.<04:50
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bigfoot1LinuxJones, oh wait, i think i see the "upload a file" button.04:51
bigfoot18-)04:51
^thehatsrule^nice04:51
Schonhoseok, what is this DCC chat thing?04:52
LinuxJonesbigfoot1, :)04:52
^thehatsrule^its a direct connection chat to another user Schonhose04:52
anto9usSchonhose: it connects 2 clients without going through the IRC servers04:52
LinuxJonesSchonhose, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions04:52
tranceDCC is a direct connection, only do it if u think its safe :p04:52
bigfoot1LinuxJones, oh, but wait, again. this upload will turn files into plaintext!04:53
trancedoes anyone know how to get Valknut/DCGUI running on Ubuntu Live? :)04:53
LinuxJonesbigfoot1, oh yeah04:53
bigfoot1i'll try putting the files onto my blogspot website.04:54
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sebastianI can't get extensions to Firefox!04:54
Schonhosethanks ^thehatsrule^ , anto9us  and LinuxJones ;)04:54
LinuxJonesSchonhose, :)04:55
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[2] BoxingFiendsebastian:  follow the link on extention site the load, and follow the link to the ubuntu bugs, read upon bug report #3 for the fix04:56
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sebastianDidn't help04:58
^thehatsrule^bigfoot1: pm04:58
sebastianIs it possible to upgrade to the latest version of firefox?04:59
[2] BoxingFiendsebastian: what version are you using now04:59
tranceapparently 1.0.5 isnt such a good version?04:59
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Servo888Why are there no libxvidcore's available?04:59
kokoko1hi04:59
sebastianThe latest Ubuntu offers by default.05:00
trancedoes anyone know how to get Valknut/DCGUI running on Ubuntu Live? :)05:00
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hybrid_goth sebastian 1.0.6 can be tested now from the mozilla site05:00
nixerxHey all!05:00
kokoko1do ubuntu default install come with kde?05:00
LinuxJoneskokoko1, you can install kubuntu05:00
bigfoot1^thehatsrule^, pm for you05:00
nixerxWhat is the status for SATA and ubuntu?05:01
Schonhosekokoko1, KDE is Kubuntu and GNome is Ubuntu05:01
sebastianBut I don't get why they backport stuff, Firefox don't do drastical chnages for x.x.* changes that's the whole point with them.05:01
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hybrid_gothsebastian: when the release is final it gets no new packages05:01
bigfoot1anto9us, my one page is available in PDF or SXW (open office) formats at http://hats.would.like2.servebeer.com/upl/uploads/.05:02
hybrid_gothsebastian: hoary is final. but backports let you get some newer things05:02
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bigfoot1If anyone would like to give any tips/advice, or even make changes to the document directly, please feel free to do so!05:02
bigfoot1correction: if anyone _else_...05:02
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hybrid_gothsebastian: but developement gets most the newest packages thats why breezy has a X bug05:02
kokoko1Schonhose, LinuxJones aren't kubuntu == ubuntu ?05:02
leroji though kubuntu was ubuntu with KDE05:03
hybrid_gothkokoko1: kubuntu ~= ubuntu05:03
kokoko1hmm05:03
^thehatsrule^bigfoot1: will this be in black/white?05:03
hybrid_gothkokoko1: the difference is KDE and Gnome05:03
sebastianhybrid_goth, Hmm, can't you just get the latest stable pakage of every software?05:03
sebastianOh, btw why is Firefox  in Ubuntu so slow on loading a site the first time. Much slower than Firefox in Windows.05:03
kokoko1hybrid_goth, IMHO kubuntu is offical ?05:03
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sJaMkubuntu = ubuntu - gnome + kde05:04
leroji like Gnome better than KDE05:04
bigfoot1^thehatsrule^, it will be printed from a laser printer, so i think it will be black and white and shades of grey.05:04
ctp6360i don't know why people like KDE so much, gnome is where its at05:04
hybrid_gothkokoko1: it is Ubuntu company yes but it isnt ubuntu distro05:04
nixerxKubuntu is good ... but im betting the next release will be better.05:04
hybrid_gothsebastian: yes you get stable packages or whatever packages worked when the released was issued05:04
sJaMctp6360, I don't know why people like windows so much05:04
anto9usbigfoot1: double click Greetings, press ctrl-f11 and select heading 105:04
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sebastianhybrid_goth, Isn't Firefox 1.0.4 stable?05:05
ctp6360sJaM: good call, i guess getting people to linux is the first step, then from KDE to gnome05:05
ctp6360and ultimately just a terminal ha ha05:05
anto9usbigfoot1: do the same on all the section headings05:05
bigfoot1anto9us, gotcha.05:05
hybrid_gothsebastian: if you want ALL the newest packages and can report bugs and go about helping fixing then the developement branch works but if any of those dont imply forget it05:05
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hybrid_gothsebastian: ubuntu edits firefox so the patches in .4 may have been taken care of in .2 ubuntu05:06
bigfoot1anto9us, do you think I should change the section headings themselves? As in, the word "General" is not a really descriptive heading title, no?05:06
heatxsinkI have a problem with my sound, I can hear the sound at startup and everything, but when I try to play some mp3's from XMMS, xmms crashes when I try and change a song.05:06
heatxsinkany ideas?05:06
Seveasheatxsink: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound05:06
^thehatsrule^yea you should make the headers stick out more bigfoot105:06
nixerxsJaM , Windows is like the crack of OS's. Everyone want's to quit but they just cant seem to kick the habit!05:06
sebastianhybrid_goth, I don't get it, can't I just have the latest, stable versions of every software? Like I do in Windows or Mac OS X?05:06
Seveassebastian, rofl05:07
sJaMno nixerx some people actually like windows05:07
jag3370<---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?05:07
anto9usbigfoot1: I think you should split that group down into more meaningful ones05:07
hybrid_gothsebastian: this is way different05:07
sJaMlike more than the half of the world05:07
Seveassebastian, do tou *really* think that on win/mac you have that..?05:07
nixerxsJaM ...suckers.05:07
heatxsinkSeveas:  okay so then when I try and play a video in mplayer, mplayer will stall on accessing the alsa mixer stuff05:07
nixerx:)05:07
Seveasheatxsink, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf05:07
sebastianHmm, waiut, maybe I can just download it for mozilla.org?05:07
hybrid_gothsebastian: you have what WORKED when it was released not what is "stable" and stable is not the way to be b/c stable to us is diff the debian stable05:07
hybrid_gothsebastian: if you get it from mozilla then it may not be the best when you upgrade05:08
kbrookshmm05:08
Seveashybrid_goth, s/may/will/05:08
raven3x7how do i permanently enable dma?05:08
hybrid_gothbut go ahead if you feel you actually need it05:08
sebastianhybrid_goth, What I mean by stable is that those realeasing the software consider it appropriate for use.05:08
Seveasraven3x7, set in it /etc/hdparm.conf05:08
kbrooksid like to make a wiki page clarifying this.05:08
kbrookshybrid_goth, what is the issue here?05:09
ashokheatxsink, did u try esd ?05:09
kbrookssebastian, what is the issue here?05:09
anto9usraven3x7: edit the etc/hdparm.conf05:09
sebastianhybrid_goth, Well, as it's not possible to get extensions for 1.0.2 I don't have any choice do I?05:09
hybrid_gothsebastian: ok if it is stable after the release then it would be in the next issue05:09
Seveassebastian: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.405:09
kbrookssebastian, You do.05:09
Seveassebastian, it's not ubuntus fault that mozilla devs are too damn lazy to support a stable version...05:09
kbrooksSeveas, this has been mentioned in a factoid05:09
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sebastianSeveas, It didn't help.05:10
kbrooks!firefox05:10
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"05:10
Seveassebastian, you might need to set it to 1.0.5 now05:10
Seveassince they released another version05:10
hybrid_gothkbrooks: sebastian wants "stable" in hoary e.g. firefox newest version in hoary but he doesnt understand why to use backports and why it isnt in hoary anyway05:10
kevin_Good Morning Everyone05:10
Seveaswith different bugs05:10
hybrid_goth1.0.6 is ready for testing digg.com05:10
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Seveashybrid_goth, firefox latest != stable05:10
bigfoot1anto9us, yes, i agree. splitting the "General" group into smaller groups is good.05:11
hybrid_goth1.0.6 is ready for testing || check out digg>com05:11
bigfoot1Perhaps I should remove some phrases which are not really necessary. What prhrases do you think are not basic?05:11
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hybrid_gothSeveas: granted05:11
raven3x7Seveas is there a way to enable the new configuration without rebooting?05:11
anto9usbigfoot1: and you've missed out the most important thing of all... sake etiquette ;)05:12
ashokfolks, whenever i hibernate, the system display switches off , but my notebook is still on.05:12
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bigfoot1anto9us, 8-). well etiquette/manners will be taught in another workshop.05:12
hybrid_gothkbrooks: are you in UTC time zone?05:13
sheeparegreathey all, whats the name of the part of a theme, after the login screen and before you see the desktop. I want to change it to something plain but im not sure what it is i need to change. any ideas?05:13
sebastianIs tehre avevn any changes to minorminor releases of firefox other than stuff that should be backported any way?05:13
kbrookshybrid_goth, EDT is UTC - 405:13
jag3370<---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?05:14
kbrookshybrid_goth, wassup anyway?05:14
hybrid_gothkbrooks: i was tryin to figure how far UTC is from Central time for the meeting this month05:14
tranceanyone know how to compile DCGUI/Valknut in linux?05:14
kbrooksuh, -505:14
hybrid_gothok ty05:14
kbrooks3:00 pm05:14
kbrooksiirc05:15
heatxsinkcool thanks guys05:15
LinuxJoneskbrooks, is that today ?05:15
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kbrooksLinuxJones, no, next week05:15
LinuxJoneskbrooks, ahh05:15
kbrooksLinuxJones, 20:00 UTC05:15
anto9usbigfoot1: well, you've missed out the most important phrase then... Junmai-shu kudasai05:15
kbrooksin #ubuntu-nun05:15
bigfoot1anto9us, 8-)05:16
hybrid_gothkbrooks: the agenda said ubuntu-meeting05:16
bddebianI thought it was in #ubuntu-meeting?05:16
kbrooksheh05:16
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hybrid_gothlol05:16
bddebianIs there a #ubuntu-nun?05:16
kbrooksyes05:16
bddebianHmm05:16
kbrooksnew users network05:16
kbrookswhich i'm in05:16
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bddebianMe too but I didn't know we had a channel :-)05:17
kbrooksthere's a #ubuntu-doc too05:17
hybrid_gothbddebian: yup ubuntu-nun05:17
hybrid_gothkbrooks: what is the doc05:17
kbrooksfor? /topic #ubuntu-doc05:17
bigfoot1how can i make the handout easier on the eyes?05:18
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jag3370help please05:18
jag3370help please05:18
jag3370<---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?05:18
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hybrid_gothjag3370: sudo?05:19
kbrooksbigfoot1, handout?05:19
kbrookshybrid_goth, no05:19
ethicsjag3370, add them to the sound group id guess05:19
davidfjag3370: you probably need to put the others in the audio group05:19
anto9usbigfoot1: use a sans serif font throughout05:19
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davidfjag3370: "sudo vigr" will get you to the group editor05:19
jag3370hybrid_goth, ethics ---figure your are talking to a midly intelligent moron --- be specific please05:19
kevin_I will try to get my sound going today sometime after the rest of my family gets up, enjoying the piece and quiet right now lol05:19
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anto9usbigfoot1: putting the groups into a table with borders may help guide the eye too05:20
hybrid_gothjag3370: the sudo command lets you have root power for a task try sudo <command> then type the users passwd05:20
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^thehatsrule^yea anto9us, thats what i suggested too05:21
kamstrumentalSynaptic does not have Firefox 1.5?05:21
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anto9us^thehatsrule^: cool, it has some consensus then :)05:21
^thehatsrule^:)05:22
hybrid_gothkamstrumental: no it has what was used when hoary was released05:22
kokoko1hybrid_goth, i have to prepare a presentation displaying windows Vs Linux in action, which distro you would suggest for this purpose ?05:22
sebastianHmm, when Firefox 1.1 is out how do I upgrade to that?05:22
bigfoot1kbrooks, I am wanting to make my one page handout/printout, given to many new internationals in Japan this summer, nice in terms of design and layout. If you have even a bit of an eye in terms of design and layout, i welcome your advice. It is available in PDF or SXW (open office) formats at http://hats.would.like2.servebeer.com/upl/uploads/.05:22
kokoko1myself I use slackware05:22
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bddebianLindows? ;-)05:23
jag3370davidf, i am in vigr --- how do i edit this05:23
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kokoko1someone told me ubuntu kinda cool for this purpose :)05:23
bddebianCan't you just do "sudo adduser <user> audio" ?05:24
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hybrid_gothkokoko1: ubuntu is nice for the fact it is linux but xandros is alot like windows05:24
davidfbddebian: very probably actually, I always do the vigr, but you're right, that is probably easier05:24
kokoko1however I'm sure slackware is best for desktop use, with cutting edge softwares05:24
davidfotherwise, audio:x:29:david is what I have in the audio line on mine05:24
jag3370lol    looks like adduser did it --- checking now  --- thanks05:25
bigfoot1anto9us, do you think the paper is suffering from too much info? do you think some phrases shoud be removed?05:25
kokoko1hybrid_goth, actaully we are interested in *free* linux I doubt xandros is not free05:25
hybrid_gothkokoko1: but if you go with slack then you can not display my fav linux thing. package management05:25
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hybrid_gothkokoko1: it is free but not like beer05:25
gverigCan somebody help me understand what what umask (dmask, fmask) is in fstab? How exactly does it work?05:25
bigfoot1sebastian, i got scribus. Is it just me, or does it not come with a help manual?05:25
hybrid_gothkokoko1: Ubuntu Fedora and Mandrivia are the most _popular_05:26
Hikaru79When trying to apt-get install jde, it tells me that the bsh dependency can't be installed. Is bsh unavailable completely, or is there some non-free repository I can go to to get it?05:26
kokoko1hybrid_goth, i'm not aruging for slackware, just asking may is "ubuntu" good for this kinda presentations?05:26
sebastianbigfoot1, Help manuals are only useful when the application designer have failed. ;)05:26
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anto9usbigfoot1: no, I think it could be more comprehensive, reduce the fontsize to 10 points to increase whitespace and drop in some kanji to make it look pretty and be useful when pointing at the chart to Japanese05:26
bigfoot1sebastian, what's an application designer?05:26
hybrid_gothkokoko1: what are you trying to compare? i.e. installing software ease of use internet set up05:26
kamstrumentalhow do i upgrade to firefox 1.05?05:26
sebastianbigfoot1, I mean GUI designer.05:26
^thehatsrule^bigfoot1: its like scribus, pagemaker, or adobe's indesign05:27
kamstrumentali downloaded the install files from the website, but when i run the installer it points to the desktop05:27
hybrid_gothkamstrumental: download it from mozilla05:27
bigfoot1anto9us, i thought of not including any kanji because my audience won't know any kanji at all. I assume that they will be total newbies to the Japanese language05:27
kokoko1hybrid_goth, compareing say you have ms office , we have open office you have outlook, we have thunderbird etc05:27
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bigfoot1anto9us, that's why  there is no kanji, and even no hiragana or katakana.05:27
kokoko1hybrid_goth, also easy of install and cool looks and feel05:27
anto9usbigfoot1: the exposure won't hurt and the kanji can be easily ignored by the unwilling05:28
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hybrid_gothkokoko1: so defualt applications? i would go with ubuntu. now if networking is a huge issue SuSe has nice YaST05:28
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kokoko1hybrid_goth, installation softwares is not an issue coz they are not authorized to install softwares there own05:28
Schonhoseok, [2] BoxingFiend was quite helpfull but we were unable to get printing to work form a laptop to a desktop with a printer, both working under Ubuntu05:28
bigfoot1anto9us, i see what you mean. If they don't want to say the words, they can just show the piece of paper to the Japanese person they are takling to.05:28
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anto9usbigfoot1: yes, I think the layout something like this http://www.aikiweb.com/language/ai_phrases.html05:29
nixerxexit05:29
nixerxoops05:29
hybrid_gothkokoko1: comparing like that you have many option. outlook - thundbird evolution even mutt :P ah so no pkg management05:29
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bigfoot1sebastian, i'm still not sure what you mean by GUI designer.05:29
kokoko1hybrid_goth, okay I thinks ubuntu will definity win this presentations :), however I must say kde is much much better then gnome05:29
hybrid_gothkokoko1: what distro will they use?05:29
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hybrid_gothkokoko1: i personally love screen05:30
kokoko1hybrid_goth, any free distro, may be ubunto05:30
hybrid_gothubunto?05:30
kokoko1however first I have present linux, to them ,05:30
sebastianbigfoot1, The person desinging the GUI of the app, A good GUI is self describing.05:30
kokoko1Ubuntu*05:30
hybrid_gothkokoko1: ah i see05:30
bigfoot1anto9us, okay. i took a look at that aikido webpage. there are 4 columns there. but i guess we at most need 3 columns for this handout.05:30
bigfoot1sebastian, i understand.05:31
hybrid_gothkokoko1: i was like wo a ubuntu rip off? :P05:31
hybrid_gothsrry bout thaat05:31
hybrid_goth*that05:31
anto9usbigfoot1: yes and you're starting with the English phrase05:31
kokoko1hybrid_goth, heh for me fluxbox is enough ;)05:31
hybrid_gothlol i like xfce when i startx05:31
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bigfoot1^thehatsrule^, what do you mean: "its like scribus, pagemaker, or adobe's indesign?" i've never used any Desktop Publising PRogram (DTP) before.05:31
kokoko1lol, i have xfce too :)05:31
kokoko1but never use it in ages05:32
bigfoot1anto9us, So on top of the kanji, do you propose we put furigana?05:32
kokoko1hybrid_goth, i just created a simple site wana look at it ? , links are not yet working05:32
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Dr_GonZohello05:32
hybrid_gothkokoko1: sure05:32
keltonghi...my 1st day using ubuntu...05:32
bddebianHello Dr_GonZo05:33
^thehatsrule^those are like to make handouts, designing layouts .. uh..05:33
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kokoko1hybrid_goth, www.askarali.info05:33
keltongand my 1st logon to this channel05:33
Dr_GonZoI have just one question05:33
kevin_I am using xfce as well but the only problem I am having is that it doesn't give me a button to get to my programs05:33
^thehatsrule^lo keltong, good luck to you05:33
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Dr_GonZois it possible to have google earth on Linux05:33
Dr_GonZo????05:33
anto9usbigfoot1: I shouldn't think so, these are absolute beginners we're talking of, right?05:33
bddebiankeltong: Well welcome05:33
bddebianDr_GonZo: Google Earth?05:33
kokoko1hybrid_goth, ever tried openbsd ? ;)05:33
Dr_GonZoit s google appli to view sattelite map05:34
bigfoot1anto9us, yes, absolute beginners. No knowledge of japanese is presumed05:34
Dr_GonZobut it s only for Win :/05:34
[2] BoxingFiendDr_GonZo: it requires WinXP so you might be able to with wine, best bet is to use Win4Lin05:34
kokoko1hybrid_goth, you use Links ;) ?05:34
keltongcan i ask if all installation has to be done via the terminal? even those we s/w we d/l from the web?05:34
anto9usbigfoot1: then they'll be completely lost on them I think05:34
bddebiankeltong: No, you can use synaptic05:35
Dr_GonZooki thx05:35
hybrid_gothkokoko1: nice. yup i use links2 for graphics and lynx for text05:35
bigfoot1but if you think we don't need furigana (how to read the kanji),  and if you think we need kanji, won't this be a bit too much for them? It will just fly over them. OR is the kanji just for showing to whomever they are talking to?05:35
kokoko1cool sound like slack user ;)05:35
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anto9usbigfoot1: the kanji is there mainly for beautification and when used for pointing05:36
hybrid_gothkokoko1: actually never used slack. the .tgz is kinda scary05:36
hybrid_gothkokoko1: but is compiling common in slack05:36
kokoko1hybrid_goth, give a try to slack, :)05:36
bigfoot1anto9us, gotcha. I do hope they'll think it's beautiful, like you and i do. I'm just worried they might be a bit intimidated to see "code" they can't (yet) understand.05:36
keltongbddebian: how to use it for sw i downloaded that is in zip format?05:36
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kokoko1hybrid_goth, nice talken to you , thanks mate05:37
hybrid_gothkokoko1: well if i could find a 7.1 i would run it on my old comp05:37
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hybrid_gothkokoko1: no problem good luck05:37
anto9usbigfoot1: not if they don't have to depend on it05:37
aghathi05:37
jag3370thanx for help --- sound on in all users   :)05:38
bigfoot1anto9us, okay. i'll try to follow the layout in that aikido webpage.05:38
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djpanyone have an idea why when i use cdrecord to burn an iso, the resulting cd will only boot in the drive that it was recorded with? if i try to use the cd in my dvd drive, it does not boot and returns a fail message. the command i used to burn the iso was as follows... sudo nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v speed=2 dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -data -pad freeduc-primaire-1.5.iso05:39
bigfoot1anto9us, i like how that aikido webpage has soft alternating white and light-grey horizontal lines, do you know what i mean?05:39
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anto9usbigfoot1: yes, I often use them on reports from my databases, they do help the eye05:39
bigfoot1how can i get those soft alternating "lines" (that's not the right word, is it?) into openoffice, i wonder?05:39
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Dr_GonZo[2] BoxingFiend, win4lin is free to download and install?05:40
anto9usbigfoot1: in a table05:41
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Belutzwhy i can't find Nvu in synaptic?05:42
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djpBelutz: because it isn't there. you need to download the .deb file from the nvu web site05:43
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Belutzdjp: there's no .deb file for Nvu in their website05:43
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djpwas when i last visited Belutz, hold on...05:44
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Hikaru79nvu is in backports, I think05:44
[2] BoxingFiendDr_GonZo it's $90 but I love it, allow me to run all sort of win only programs i need on my laptop05:44
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djpBelutz: http://cvs.nvu.com/download/nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz205:44
Belutzin backports? ic... that's why i didn't find it05:44
djpsorry it was a compressed file05:45
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Belutzdjp: i already download the .bz2 file.... now how do i install it?05:45
[2] BoxingFienddamn google earth is freaky accurate05:45
djpBelutz: decompress the file05:45
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ctp6360[2] BoxingFiend: is google earth only for USA?05:45
Belutzdjp: already, there's no configure file05:45
Dr_GonZothx [2] BoxingFiend for information05:46
keemneed some help now :) my workbars is gone :| how can i get them back ? =)05:46
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Dr_GonZono it isn't05:46
kbrooksworkbars?05:46
Dr_GonZoctp6360,05:46
djpok next...05:46
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QaDeSBelutz: bunzip2 -c nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2 | tar xv05:47
djpBelutz: where have you extracted it to?05:47
Belutzdjp: to /home/belutz/source/nvu-1.0/05:47
keeMhow can i get them back ? ;)05:47
kbrooksQaDeS, dufde05:48
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Alfred1881hey all i have a lot of mp3 files , how can i encode then in one time to WAVE ?05:48
kbrooksQaDeS, tar -xjvf05:48
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bigfoot1anto9us, okay, i've converted the phrases into one big table. how do we do the alternating white and light-gray thing?05:48
anto9usbigfoot1: select alternate rows and change the background colour05:48
bigfoot1anto9us, yikes!05:49
QaDeSoh cool, ty kbrooks :)05:49
QaDeSshould read the changelogs sometimes ;)05:49
bigfoot1anto9us, manually? is there no automatic way? I'm not lazy. it's easy to do, since this is just a one-pager. But what if we are working on large documents?05:49
kbrooksQaDeS, heh. tar in this caase05:49
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djpanyone have an idea why when i use cdrecord to burn an iso, the resulting cd will only boot in the drive that it was recorded with? if i try to use the cd in my dvd drive, it does not boot and returns a fail message. the command i used to burn the iso was as follows... sudo nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v speed=2 dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -data -pad freeduc-primaire-1.5.iso05:51
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bigfoot1does anybody know how to get the alternating white and light-grey background color in http://www.aikiweb.com/language/ai_phrases.html into a openoffice Writer table ?05:53
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Burritodoes anyobdy know hot to get glib package?05:54
anto9usbigfoot1: I think it may be possible to set up an autoformat, googling may reveal that someone has already have do so05:55
Burritoi try $sudo apt-get install glib, but it doesn work05:55
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anto9us^done so05:55
bigfoot1anto9us, okay. i'll try to google it.05:55
robtaylor_Burrito: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev05:55
keeMhow can i get back my workspaces ?05:55
robtaylor_Burrito: if in doubt apt-cache search is your friend05:56
Burritook05:56
Burritotha ks05:56
Burritobut it said that apt-get install libglib2.0-dev is allready installed05:56
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Burritowhat can i do?05:56
HiddenWolfis it possible to just fire up a terminal and do a few commands as a different user, somehow?05:57
crashdHiddenWolf: yeah05:57
Burritorobtaylor_: what can i do?05:58
anubiswhy does xmms play loud and clear05:58
crashduse sudo05:58
anubisbut Totem and rythmbox are whisper queit?05:58
crashdsudo -u username05:58
keeMhow can i get back my workspaces ? plz can some one help me ? :|05:58
keeMsomeone*05:58
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robtaylor_Burrito: what do you want to do?05:58
Burritoi want to install a plugins for xmms05:59
Burritolike a lirycs displayer05:59
QaDeShow do i sync the menus between gnome and kde?05:59
Burritoand it said that i nedd to get glib 2.2.x05:59
robtaylor_Burrito: apt-cache search for plugins, then install them with apt-get05:59
Burritoor something like that05:59
RiddellQaDeS: how do you mean?05:59
Burritono05:59
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robtaylor_Burrito: i wouldnt reccoment building them yourself05:59
Burritoi allready have the plugin05:59
QaDeSi installed the kde packages and now my application menu is empty06:00
to|maha jetzt hab ich sogar souroundsound m,)06:00
robtaylor_Burrito: use apt. dont build yourself unless you know waht you're doing06:00
QaDeSin kde i mean :) gnome's ok i suspect06:00
bigfoot1anto9us, um, i didn't know what search terms to use to get my answer, so i'll see if version 2 has this feature.06:00
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QaDeSglckwunsch, to|m :)06:00
anubisI suppose it esd06:00
Ed_Geinhey06:00
bigfoot1using command line, how do i know the name of the file for openoffice version 2?06:00
robtaylor_Burrito: or unless you have no option06:00
anubisdoes esd suck that bad?06:00
Ed_GeinWhat is a good dvd player?06:00
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Burritobut wait06:00
anubisand why is xmms able to access the hardware perfectly?06:00
anubisvia chipset06:01
othernoobEd_Gein: vlc plays dvds nicely06:01
djpis it adviseable to have dma enabled for a cd-r/rw drive?06:01
anubisvlc is great06:01
Ed_Geindjp: Yes06:01
anubisso is ogle06:01
HiddenWolfcrashd, I need acces to X for that user, do I have to log out my main user then?06:01
othernoobdjp: yes06:01
crashdHiddenWolf: yeah06:01
crashdor06:01
crashdat least open another xserver06:01
[2] BoxingFiended_: i saw a progressive scan dvd player that do mp3, vcd, divx for about $80 at bestbuy a while back06:01
djpthanks Ed_Gain and othernoob06:01
othernoobyw06:01
HiddenWolfcrashd, how do I do that?06:01
Burritorobtylor_: this is what it said:06:01
Burritoconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***06:01
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Burritorobtylor_: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***06:02
crashdHiddenWolf: im not sure, im not an x user ;) check the ubuntu docs, but i think it's alt-f something06:02
anubiseverybody with problems and no answers?06:02
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djphow do i check if dma is enabled on my cd-r/rw? also how do i enable it if i need to?06:03
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robtaylor_Burrito: i'm not going to help you build stuff thats installable from the archive06:03
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codecainehey all06:03
othernoobdjp: sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdX ..X being c for example if your cddrive is hdc06:03
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Burritowhy?06:04
codecainehow do i get firefox and openoffice prelinked, when i run prelink it says "could not find one of the dependencies"06:04
othernoobdjp: to enable sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX  and edit hdparm.conf ..06:04
BorisHI do have to use de development branch of sane-backends to get my scanner working - what is the proper way to do this in ubuntu?06:04
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sebastianHow do I link a dir? I want /mnt/hdb/games to point to /mnt/hdb8/games.06:04
djpcheers othernoob06:04
othernoobdjp: http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom06:04
sJaMI thought you coudln't make ubuntuguide links06:05
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othernoobsJaM i don't really care ;)06:05
Mobiuswhy can't you make ubuntuguide links?06:05
sJaMI do06:05
othernoobthere is nothing wrong with the guide06:06
sJaMif you know what you are doing06:06
othernoobthe wiki isn't better06:06
Bubbling_Zombiethe wiki has some explenations on what you're doing06:06
sJaMyes it is06:06
Bubbling_Zombiethat can't be said of the ubuntuguide06:06
codecaineanyone know why prelink doesnt work on firefox or openoffice?06:06
othernooball the wiki has is some pictures..06:07
SchonhoseI'm still having troubles printing between from one Ubuntu machine to another with a printer installed....06:07
othernoobbut it's basically the same "do that if you want that"06:07
sJaMnot entirely06:07
Bubbling_Zombiebbiab06:07
sJaMubuntuguide only gives 1 possibilty06:07
othernoobif one really wants to learn one won't rely on neither the guide nor the wiki..06:07
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ctp6360yeah they will rely on trial and error06:08
djpeven better othernoob thanks so much...06:08
zenwhenothernoob, does one "learn" by hitting random keys until something happens?06:08
ctp6360rm -rf /06:08
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ctp6360oh yes so that command removes all my files06:08
othernoobzenwhen, yes.06:08
ctp6360GOOD FIND06:08
zenwhenothernoob, thats silly06:09
othernoobctp6360: no it'll only remove your / ..not all files06:09
sJaMctp6360, you have iit wron06:09
sJaMsudo rm -rf /06:09
ctp6360yeah i don't use sudo i don't like it06:09
hybrid_gothwell yall i am out for a while06:09
othernoobif you really want to fuck the system, then sudo rm -rf * ...heh06:09
sebastianis it possible to mount one partition on two places?06:09
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sJaMwhy do you want that sebastian06:10
sJaMyou could make a symbolic link06:10
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othernoobzenwhen it's not silly.06:11
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othernoobzenwhen. the wiki mostly gives graphical solutions..instead of cli solutions.06:11
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Schonhose[2] BoxingFiend, are you still here?06:11
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klaymhey people give me an advice for a good little game to get from apt06:13
othernoobminesweeper06:13
klaymwell that's simple06:13
othernoobbeneath a steel sky06:13
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sebastian sJaM I accidently put the wrong path into the ut2004 installer. So I'm trying to trick it inot believing it put files into /mnt/hdb/games/ut2004 while it really put them intoi /mnt/hdb8/games/ut200406:14
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to|mis there a metapackage to compile sourcefiles?06:15
zenwhenothernoob, if guides arent provided for users to obtain to basic functionalities that are not included with ubuntu, users will give up.06:15
zenwhenI learned on Slackware.06:15
zenwhenMost people dont have the guts to jump head first into the cli.06:15
zenwhenOr the time.06:16
othernoobzenwhen: uhm, so what's wrong with the ubuntuguide then? it's basic functionalities06:16
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zenwhenNothings wrong with either of the resources.06:16
sebastianNo one knows?06:16
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zenwhenthey offer different paths to a lot of the same goals.06:16
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bofhi06:17
othernoobzenwhen: so what was your initial point of addressing me again?06:17
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zenwhen<othernoob> if one really wants to learn one won't rely on neither the guide nor the wiki..06:19
zenwhenthat statement06:19
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othernoobexactly.06:19
LiudyHi,all06:19
LiudyI want to update my firefox to 1.0.406:19
zenwhenSo you expect people top type random commands into the cli until something happens?06:19
^thehatsrule^Liudy: theres 1.0.506:20
othernoobno, ever heard of books? ;)06:20
zenwhenIt would take years to learn anything without guidance.06:20
Liudyapt-cache show firefox tell me the version it find is Version: 1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp506:20
LiudyBut after i use apt-get upgrade firefox06:20
zenwhenyes, the average user is going to go buy a nice big linux book06:20
LiudyMy firefox is still 1.0.2 without any change06:21
sJaMsebastian, you can make a symbolic link from a symbolic link06:21
LiudyHi thehatsrule06:21
[2] BoxingFiendi tell my friends when they first try unix to type "man a{tab}{tab}", a couple of command a day and linux is much easier for them06:21
othernoobthe guide at least gives some cli guidance, whereas the wiki is mostly point'n'click06:21
LiudyIs there 1.0.5 for ubuntu?06:21
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QaDeSis there a way to re-create the gnome/kde menus?06:21
othernoobzenwhen: does the average usere really want to learn? if yes, then yes, he'll buy a book06:21
sJaMwiki isn't point'n click06:21
coenraadhow do you install tar files?06:21
sebastiansJaM, HmmI just reainstalled. Easier I guess.06:21
sJaMand just copy and past cli lines doesn't improme it06:22
Schonhosecoenraad, you need to extract them first06:22
sJaMdon't know06:22
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sJaMa 'ln -s source dest' is pretty simple06:22
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sebastiansJaM, Will that work for deeper paths?06:22
to|mis there an option to change workspace if the mouse is at the border of the screen?06:23
sebastianothernoob, Well, fo basic functionality you shouldn't have to even read the Wiki. It should Just Work.06:23
sJaMwhat do you mean with 'deeper'06:23
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sebastiansJaM, I I sombolically link /somepath to /othpath will /somepath/bpath link to /othpath/bpath ?06:24
HiddenWolfI'm stuck configuring mythtv, any hints?06:24
othernoobsebastian: and it does. not great. but it does ;)06:24
sJaMyes06:24
othernoobsJaM: just look at the howto add repositories on the wiki..point'n'click06:25
SchonhoseAaargh, this printing problem is driving me nuts... All those references to making a connection windows - linux whereas I'm trying to connect linux-linux.....06:25
sJaMlook at java06:25
ezsquirthey, does ubuntu traffic stopped ? latest issue is from feb.06:26
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crashdhmm06:26
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crashddoes ubuntu livecd support usb?06:26
Schonhosecrashd, I believe so06:27
crashdcool :}06:27
crashdthat's exactly what i wanted to hear my good man06:27
Schonhoseyeah, but do note the believe part ;)06:27
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crashdhehe06:27
crashdill be able to check once i find a bloody cd-r06:27
sebastianWould be weird othewise..06:27
crashdwell, yeah06:28
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^DodGeR^howdy all06:29
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Schonhosestill no one around who can help me with my printing issues?06:29
slow_hi there06:29
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naliothcrashd: what sort of usb device?06:30
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crashdmass storage06:30
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crashdall i need to do know is find a bloody cd-r ;\06:31
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SchonhoseOk, now it is official.... I hate printing devices!06:31
naliothcrashd: fwiw, my firewire burner(s) work well on my iBook/ubuntu06:31
crashdnalioth: hmm, thanks06:32
crashdwhat kernel does the livecd use ?06:32
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othernoobsJaM: lol, the java wiki is funny.. sending people to edit the sources.list without real guidance06:32
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westermannhey, i have basic question. how can i filter with Synaptic? i am used to rpm (urpmi) but i cant find a real filter. if i want to install vlc and i search for it there are no matches06:33
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slow_crashd: i think it is 2.6.10 (the same used in the install cd)06:33
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crashdcool, well im sure i'll be able to bodge usb-msd support if it isnt working properly ;)06:34
klaymI hate it that Linux people are so damn pacifistic. I'm looking for some mindless shooting game and I get nothing when querying for 'zombies', 'shoot-em-up' gives inter-galactic nonsense06:34
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naliothwestermann: search using "package names and contents" or search for "video"06:34
naliothklaym: try "abuse"06:34
Schonhosenalioth, perhaps you have any knowledge on printing issues?06:35
crashdklaym: or just run quake ;)06:35
westermannnalioth, thakns, please wait06:35
klaymnalioth: I have it. it's ok but what I'm actually looking for is something like 'Phobia' series, Tapan Kaikki or something like that06:35
MajorNewbyEnemy Territory, klaym06:35
klaymand I'm running a P3 650mhz06:35
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naliothSchonhose: sorry, many years ago i adopted the philosophy of "printers suck" and now if i need something, i email it to myself and visit my local networked office supply store06:36
naliothSchonhose: have you researched "cups"?06:36
othernoobSchonhose: ever been to linuxprinting.org ?06:36
naliothklaym: am unfamiliar with those, try a search for "games" at sourceforge.net06:36
KenosisI cannot seem to get DVD playback to work correctly - I installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav4 and mplayer locks up before it displays anything, ogle freezes in the first few frames, and I'm wondering if I missed something to help create smooth playback?06:37
naliothKenosis: enabled DMA?06:37
Kenosisnope06:37
KenosisIS there a command to do so?06:37
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othernoobsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX06:37
othernoobX being c if your cddrive is hdc06:37
westermannwell, oke. this works. thanks!06:38
gremidhello, is the web server  down on archive.ubuntu.com?06:39
kbrooksno06:39
Schonhoseprinting does work from desktop with atached printer. But I would like to print from the laptop by using the one on the desktop06:39
naliothgremid: it is having intermittent spasms, try again later06:39
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naliothSchonhose: so you want to know how to set up a "shared printer"?06:40
gremidthanks.06:40
KenosisNOPE- ogle is still freezing on first few frames...06:40
Kenosisd'oh!06:40
Schonhosenalioth, yeah preferable using SMB since the ADSL modem acts as a router with DCHP06:40
westermannone more question: with rpm i was used to have libxyz and libxyz-dev. here i can only find libavcodec-dev nothing like libavcodec. so sould i take the dev?06:40
othernoobKenosis: you may also want to edit your hdparm.conf or your /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to enable DMA on boot..06:41
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KenosisBut regardless of boot it should be enabled right now, but yet no changes to playback?06:42
naliothwestermann: are your deb-src lines enabled in your sources.list?06:42
Kenosis/dev/hdc:06:42
Kenosis setting using_dma to 1 (on)06:42
Kenosis using_dma    =  1 (on)06:42
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KenosisAre the libdvdcs and libdvdnav the only required packages?06:43
Kenosis*libdvdcss06:43
Kenosis?06:43
sebastianI get "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy" when trying to start ut2004.06:44
nalioths_dogKenosis: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support06:44
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sebastianWhat should I do to avoid that?06:45
slow_seb128: esd is holding the device. try "killall esd" before running ut06:45
slow_oops06:45
slow_stupid auto-completition06:45
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slow_sebastian: esd is holding the device. try "killall esd" before running ut06:46
slow_(now, there we have it)06:46
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westermann*confused* i dont know my root pw... i know. thats a post for the wiki quotes. but by installing ubuntu they never was a dialog for settig it06:48
Schonhosenalioth, do you know a solution?06:48
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Kenosislibdvdread: Can't stat dvd://06:48
KenosisNo such file or directory06:48
KenosisERROR[ogle_nav] : faild to open/read the DVD06:48
Kenosismain: DVDSetDVDRoot: Root not set06:48
KenosisWierd...06:48
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davidfwestermann: I think there is no root password set initially06:48
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davidfwestermann: loading a console and typing sudo passwd root will set one if you actually need to connect to the root account06:49
sebastianslow_, Didn't help. :/06:49
nalioths_dogwestermann: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:49
nibblesmxi have a really big problem: yesterday i booted my computer and my esd daemon doesn't start!!! i have no sound, and no volume control icon in the system tray, can somebody help me please?06:49
sebastianBRB, have to restart Linux to use my new Nvidia drivers.06:50
thr1cesebastian: no you don't06:50
nalioththr1ce: wow they're conditioned well by uncle bill, arent they?06:50
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westermannlol, i can start a root terminal but cant make su in the terminal... strange06:50
_dylanhi everyone.06:50
thr1cenalioth: =] 06:50
_dylanhow do i completely remove gnome if i want to only use KDE?06:51
westermanndavidf, thx06:51
naliothwestermann: stick with "sudo", it's safer06:51
slow_nibblesmx: if you try to run "esd" on a terminal, it works?06:51
nibblesmxyes, but only if i run it as root06:51
nalioth_dylan: do you have storage space issues?06:51
_dylannalioth, no but i like KDE much better06:51
_dylandont need toe gnome programs06:52
_dylanthe, not toe06:52
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nibblesmxslow_, and still i cant change the volume, it says that it cant find any devices for it06:52
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slow_nibblesmx: weird. i was checking for permissions here, but it looks like things are working even without "everyone can do anything here" :)06:53
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sebastianWhy does xchat spend lots of time " Looking up irc.freenode.net"06:53
slow_sebastian: dns solving06:53
nalioth_dylan: then dont use gnome06:53
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slow_sebastian: maybe the dns you are using is a little bit slow...06:53
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_dylanis there a way i can remove gnome tho?06:54
sebastianslow_, I don't have this problem in Windows.06:54
_scottHello everyone!06:54
slow__dylan: yes, but it requires a little bit of work06:54
sebastianI get no sound in ut2004 what to do about that?06:55
nibblesmxslow_, when i run "esd" as a normal user i get this: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"06:55
thr1cebackup home, then reinstall with kubuntu might be easier06:55
slow__dylan: you need to hunt them down on synaptic (for example) and remove them06:55
_dylanright06:55
thr1cesebastian: try killall esd && ut2k406:55
slow__dylan: probably removing "glib" and "gtk" would remove most of packages06:55
_dylanu talking to me, sebastian?06:55
_dylankillall thing works06:55
_dylan?06:55
slow__dylan: oh, and gstreamer06:56
nalioth_dylan: ubuntu requires some gnome things to be there for use, i'd just leave it and not use it06:56
sebastian"esd: no process killed"06:56
thr1ceok; when you run ut2k4 from a terminal, then quit; does it complain about perm issues with sound?06:56
sebastian_dylan, You can use gnome programs in kde anyway.06:56
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_dylandarn i just removed nautilus...should i reinstall using kubuntu as default? ow do i do that?06:56
slow_nibblesmx: hm... that's new for me...06:56
nalioth_dylan: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed/06:57
_dylanyes, nalioth06:57
sebastianthr1ce, "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"06:57
bolsI added the extra repositories but when I try to install sun-j2re1.5, it says that this pkg doesn't exist... what can I do, plz?06:57
nalioth_dylan: and are you removing things from within kde?06:57
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thr1cekillall esd didn't do it ?06:57
thr1ceare you running xmms or something?06:57
sebastianNope.06:57
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_dylanyes06:58
_dylanbut im thinkin i should just reinstall usin kde as default...but how?06:58
thr1ce_dylan: download the kubuntu ISO06:58
nickrudsebastian, try running lsof | grep /dev/dsp06:58
sebastian_dylan, A better idea would be to have both installed.06:58
nalioth_dylan: the "default" is what you choose in the login window under "sessions"06:58
nalioth_dylan: yes i agree, leave gnome alone06:58
sebastiannickrud, Nothing06:59
_dylanright but is there a way that i can install only kubuntu on new, fresh install of linux>06:59
nalioth_dylan: and logout and login, and choose to make kde your default session06:59
thr1ce_dylan: yes; again, download the kubuntu iso06:59
Di42locan i connect using DSL USB Modem with ppp to the internet with ubuntu ?06:59
slow_sebastian: it looks like permissions, then.06:59
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sebastianOr go System tools>New Login06:59
_dylanbut in the long run, is gnome faster?06:59
thr1cehm...06:59
sebastianslow_, I have to run as root?06:59
thr1cesudo chmod 660 /dev/sound/dsp06:59
thr1ceno06:59
lerojgnome is cooler07:00
thr1cewait07:00
thr1cels -l /dev/sound/dsp07:00
slow_sebastian: try 'sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp' before running ut07:00
_dylanbut kde looks like ... mac07:00
thr1ceno07:00
thr1cedon't 77707:00
_dylanwhich is cool enough07:00
slow_thr1ce: just for testing. :)07:00
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thr1cesebastian: ls -l /dev/sound/dsp07:00
refuze2loozeanybody know why K3B is burning bad audio discs?07:00
slow_thr1ce: udev should return to normal permissions after reboot, anyway07:00
sebastianNo such file or directory07:00
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nalioth_dylan: huh? kde leans more towards windows in its default layout07:00
thr1cesebastian: huh?  try /dev/dsp07:01
_dylanthe icons are nicer in kde07:01
_dylankubuntu, i mean07:01
sebastiancrw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-07-17 12:11 /dev/dsp07:01
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thr1cesebastian: hm...try chmod 660 /dev/dsp07:01
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thr1cesudo*07:01
davidfsebastian: try sudo addusers [username]  audio07:01
davidferm, adduser07:01
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_dylanbut my question is, which is faster? KDE or GNOME?07:02
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thr1ce_dylan: what drivers better, ford or chevy?07:02
_dylani dont know07:02
othernoobxfce :p07:02
_dylani dont drive07:02
thr1celol07:02
nickrudheh07:02
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thoreauputic_dylan: why not try both and see whish works better for you?07:03
thoreauputic*which07:03
sebastianStill no sound07:03
westermannwelll, thank you. i will now use ubuntu on my laptop - nice OS07:03
nickrudsebastian, if you did the adduser, you need to log out and back in for it to take effect07:03
sebastianI get "WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!" in the console, thathave anything to do with it?07:03
sebastiannickrud, I was allready added07:04
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sebastianHow do I test if audio works at all?07:05
thr1cesebastian: did you try chmod 660 /dev/dsp ?07:05
sebastianthr1ce, Yes I've done that07:05
thoreauputicsebastian: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp07:05
nalioth_dylan: if you are after speed, there are xfce4, enlightenment, fluxbox and many other DMs07:05
sebastianthoreauputic, lol07:05
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HappyFooland the console. super speedy.07:06
nickrudsebastian, system-pref-multimedia systems07:06
thoreauputicthr1ce: chmod 660 on  a device is a Bad Move (tm)07:06
thr1cethoreauputic: not at all07:06
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thr1ce660 should work fine07:06
sebastianbash: system-pref-multimedia: command not found07:06
nickrudsebastian, from the menu :)07:07
yukihi!07:07
davidfsebastian: have you put yourself in group audio?07:07
westermanncu07:07
yukiwhat was the program to choose, download and install gnome themes ?07:07
sebastianI found the problem...07:07
sebastianyuki, Firefox?07:08
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sebastianIt thought I wanted to use my internal sound card.07:08
yukisebastian, nah, it was a gui program that downloaded previews for the themes and installed them automatically07:09
erirlaris there a way to get QT apps to use a GTK theme?07:09
sebastianHow do I change the sound card then?07:09
tankierirlar, no -- different widgets07:10
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slow_yuki: GNOME Art? (http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=889)07:11
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tankierirlar, alternatively you could create a qt theme using the properties from the particular gtk theme you like07:11
sebastianIs it possible to change the default sound card?07:11
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slow_sebastian: the only way I know is hacking .alsa.ctl (or something like that) in your $HOME07:12
slow_sebastian: never tried, though07:12
erirlartanki: well the thing is just i dont want to install kde but i have to use skype, looks like this is going to be a tuffy07:12
adwaitcan somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?07:12
sebastianWTH? There have to be a proper way?07:13
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slow_sebastian: last time I tried, it won and I left the non-onboard card on :)07:13
tankierirlar, well kde uses qt but i dont think you need kde to install a qt theme07:13
plbhey guys anyone wanna tell me what you think of this metacity theme I've been working on called ubuntu sticks...not done but heres a preview http://screenshots.haque.net/screenshots/view/28327/screenshot-28327.jpg07:13
slow_(oops, other way around)07:13
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erirlartanki: hmmm, i don't think so ither, lets try07:13
crashdplb: that's a nice theme dude07:14
nickrudsebastian, you can add the kernel module for the onboard sound to /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:14
adwaitcan somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?07:14
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plbcrashd: thanks07:14
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crashdbit girly for me, but meh ;)07:14
sebastiannickrud, But I can't switch between them like in Windows?07:14
plbcrashd: ah the wallpaper? heh =P07:14
crashdand the loveheart icon for your $home ;)07:14
yukislow_, that was it! thanks a lot :)07:14
adwaitcan somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?07:15
adwait:(07:15
plbcrashd: hehe07:15
sebastianplb, A bit too brown to me.07:15
nickrudsebastian, yes, there are instructions for controlling card selection on alsa-project.org07:15
slow_adwait: sure07:15
slow_adwait: that's what I do:07:15
nickrudsebastian, it's been a couple of years since I did that, so my memory is too fuzzy to help much more on that ;)07:16
slow_adwait: I usually create a .crontab on my home, add the command on the time and then 'crontrab .crontab'07:16
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slow_adwait: there is also a 'crontab -e' to edit the crontab, but I don't use it07:17
thr1ceplb: having trouble connecting07:17
thr1ceplb: ah, there it goes07:17
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plbsebastian: whats to brown exactly?07:17
plbI'm just doing the window border07:18
plbmetacity07:18
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plbits not done either =P07:18
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bluefoxicywhat a dilema07:19
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bluefoxicyX is broken in breezy07:19
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thr1cebluefoxicy: see that topic when you entered?07:19
bluefoxicyhowever, I need kernel 2.6.12 (2.6.10 freezes a lot)07:19
bluefoxicyinstalling 2.6.12 from breezy gets a newer glibc07:19
thr1cecompile it yourself07:20
bluefoxicyand then hoary can't install ubuntu-desktop07:20
bluefoxicythr1ce,  heh.07:20
thr1cebluefoxicy: ?07:20
thr1ceseriously...compile a kernel yourself...07:20
bluefoxicythr1ce,  have you ever used windows ME?07:20
thr1ceinstall hoary, install gcc, compile a kernel, reboot07:20
bluefoxicyubuntu crashes like that07:20
bluefoxicyevery hour or 2.07:21
thr1cebluefoxicy: i honestly doubt it's the kernel; what errors have you found in your xorg log ?07:21
thr1cei'm sure you've checked...07:21
bluefoxicyupdating the kernel fixed it, but . . even on my amd64, compiling a stock ubuntu kernel takes ~1.5 hours07:21
bluefoxicythr1ce,  no errors in xorg.log07:21
thr1ceno, compiling a vanilla kernel takes less than 10 minutes07:21
sebastianI have no ~/.asoundrc07:21
bluefoxicyplaying music one minute, system freeze the next, alt+prtscrn+O doesn't turn the machine off07:22
bluefoxicyupgrade kernel, problem solved.07:22
nickrudsebastian, you create it from scratch07:22
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bluefoxicySwitch back to old kernel, problem relived07:22
bluefoxicythr1ce,  compiling a kernel I bother to take half an hour to manually select what does and doesn't go into takes 10 minutes07:22
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thr1cebluefoxicy: no, you said "compiling" takes 1.5 hours =P07:23
thr1cemaybe use the .config from hoary, and change it around a little ?07:23
bluefoxicybeh07:23
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thr1cebluefoxicy: just an option; otherwise, you're going to have to find errors07:24
bluefoxicyalso there's no irssi07:24
bluefoxicyhence no IRC07:24
thr1cebluefoxicy: or, download one of the breezy colony discs07:24
bluefoxicythr1ce,  I got the colony 2 livech07:24
thr1cedoes that work?07:24
bluefoxicyit failed to boot07:24
bluefoxicyone of the init scripts hickups07:24
thr1cehm...strange07:25
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thr1cebluefoxicy: do you have strange hardware or something?  the stock hoary kernel should not fail...07:25
thr1cenalioth: just a .config from a 2.6 series07:25
sebastianOk, now it works except in ut2004. Doesn't ut04 use alsa?07:26
naliothi'm wondering about the handy (i believe debian) tool that takes you step by step07:26
thr1cenalioth: ooh, dunno; make menuconfig =] 07:26
bluefoxicythr1ce,  Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M motherboard, athlon 64 1800+ newcastle, 1 gig memory, Maxtor SATA drive, SB Audigy Emu10k1 based sound card07:26
thoreauputicsebastian: try `killall esd ` before running ut07:26
thr1ceremember i was raised on slackware =O07:26
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thr1cebluefoxicy: are you trying hoary 64 bit?07:26
bluefoxicy32 bit07:27
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thr1cemaybe 64 bit will help?07:27
bluefoxicyI need openoffice 207:27
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nickrudsebastian, now that you've messed around with asoundrc, try doing the dmix stuff on the alsa site.07:27
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bluefoxicyOOo2 isn't on Hoary64 or Breezy6407:27
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thr1cebluefoxicy: well, THAT you can get and install yourself07:29
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Cappohellow, i have a question, i installed ubuntu hoary on my laptop and i always used the touchpad as my mouse, but now i wanted to work with a ps2 mouse, so i inserted my mouse, i though i reboot the system and it will work, but when the ps2 mouse is inserted the machine hangs at starting hotplug subsystem; so my question is how do i configure the ps2 mouse ?07:29
thr1ceCappo: set it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:29
sebastianIs it possible to enable dns cacheing?07:29
sebastiannickrud, what is that?07:30
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Cappook i"ll open that file and have alook, new to this so probably will have a question what i have to set exactly :)07:30
nickrudsebastian, a method of letting your sound card accept streams from more than one source07:30
thr1ceCappo: there is a mouse section, just change to PS/207:31
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nickrudsebastian, like, esd and ut2004 simultaneously07:31
Cappoah ok :)07:31
Cappothanx07:31
nickrud!sound07:32
ubotuhmm... sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:32
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Capponow there is standing lmPS/2 as protocol , thats the mousepad then probably ?07:35
Cappothe touchpad i mean07:35
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blackskyI've got an amd64 system, but I think I need to have the i386 version of cups installed to use my printer drivers. Does anyone know how to do this?07:36
thoreauputicCappo: if you plugged it in via a ps/2 to USB adapter it would probably Just Work (mine does anyway)07:36
chrissturmwhat is a good cd ripper for gnome? sound juicer doesnt work here...07:36
naliothchrissturm: grip07:37
nickrudI use grip for ripping07:37
chrissturmthx07:37
naliothchrissturm: make sure ya got all yer libs installed, ogg, mp3, flac, whatever you want to rip into07:37
Cappoi was wondering if i could let the touchpad and ps2 work simultaniously07:39
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naliothCappo: my ibook touchpad and usb mouse DO work simultaneously07:39
to|mhmm, my printer doesn't print, but cubs log is ok and printe works in win, parport does work also, because cat xxx > /dev/lp0 blinks printers DATA light07:40
to|many idea?07:40
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Cappois it normal that i cant edit my xorg.conf :s ?07:42
Bubbling_Zombie are you using sudo?07:43
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Cappohm nope, how do i  open the file using that ?07:43
Bubbling_Zombiesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:43
Cappothanx07:43
Bubbling_Zombie(on the commandline/terminal)07:43
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thr1cenalioth: is breezy going to be gcc4?07:45
chrissturmthr1ce: yep07:45
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thoreauputicthr1ce: I believe so, yes07:45
sebastiannickrud, Didn't get it to work, not that important though, I still have Windows on this box.07:45
kbrooksyes07:46
thr1cehow soon does ubuntu put out RC's ?07:46
chrissturmthr1ce, you can always install it through its whole devel cycle07:46
thr1cechrissturm: not with an ATI card unfortunately07:46
travelleri have some problem with my wifi. everything seems to be ok but i'm not connecting07:46
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chrissturmthr1ce: i have an ati 960007:47
thr1ceand you have 3d accel with breezy ?07:47
Cappook so i edited the xorg.conf succesfully do i have to reboot the systm now or do i have to do something else to let the PS2 mouse work ?07:47
thr1ceCappo: nope; just have you restart X07:47
Bubbling_ZombieCappo : ctrl + alt + backspace (restarts gdm)07:47
Bubbling_Zombiebeware, this resets all your stuff on your desktop07:47
chrissturmthr1ce: the ati driver has issues with the 2.6.12 kernel. you can use breezy with 2.6.10 if you need hw accel07:47
Bubbling_Zombieso be sure to save any open docs & stuff like that07:47
Cappothx07:47
chrissturmthr1ce: but now is not a good time, X is quite broken, better wait some time07:48
thr1cechrissturm: yes, that's what I was referring to07:48
thr1cechrissturm: that's why I was wondering abotu RC's07:48
thr1cei figure they are probably stable enough07:48
nickrudsebastian  back. satan ;)07:48
^DodGeR^traveller, is your toute set ptoeprly to the wifi gateway ? can u ping the wifi gate ?07:49
^DodGeR^toute = route07:49
chrissturmthr1ce: subscribe to breezy-changes. as soon as linux-restricted-modules appears for the 2.6.12 kernel 3d accel with ati should work07:49
^DodGeR^daing , xcuse my spelling , jeez07:49
thr1cechrissturm: no, it won't; ati drivers won't compile on 2.6.12 without lots of patching07:49
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chrissturmthr1ce: thats why theres no linux-restricted-modules for breezy :)07:50
traveller^DodGeR^: it was set correctly, could the encryption mode affect it?07:50
Cappohmm still something wrong, mouse stil does not work :s07:50
chrissturmthr1ce: and as soon as that package builds, its a sign that the issues are resolved07:50
^DodGeR^yeah it could07:51
^DodGeR^u using wep ? is your essid set correctly ?07:51
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thr1cechrissturm: ATI hasn't even ressolved the issues, I doubt ubuntu will try07:51
^DodGeR^right key for right essid07:51
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chrissturmthr1ce: right. i got it to compile, but it didnt run07:51
plbIf anyone wants to test my metacity theme out I put it on gnome-look http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2655807:51
traveller^DodGeR^: essid and key all correct, still no connection07:52
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othernoobcan the mozilla-firefox plugin be used for opera as well or is there an extra plugin for opera?07:54
^DodGeR^traveller, open a terminal , 'iwlist ra0 scan' (if your interface is ra0, could be wlan0 or some such - if the access point max addess dont show up u dont have connection07:54
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othernoobi meant mplayer-firefox...07:54
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othernoobdamn you freud and your slip07:54
Bubbling_Zombieplb, looks nice. But the buttons look "drawed", while the other bordersare very straight07:54
xrywhy can't i make java work?07:54
^DodGeR^scan for it , make sure its there , then maybe just restart the interface , 'ifconfig ra0 down' 'ifconfig ra0 up' , and then check your 'route'07:54
xryi installed the java package07:55
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xrybut still, firefox or mozilla won't show Jaba07:55
traveller^DodGeR^: there's an AP07:55
xry*Java07:55
traveller^DodGeR^: ok07:55
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sJaMit is quite easy07:56
sJaMhow did you install java xry07:56
othernoobxry set firefox to the proper path for java?07:56
xryothernoob: what do you mean?07:56
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knowledge_Ok guys another problem...I patched my kernel yesterday and now my wifi card wont work...and I have to keep typing in "sudo modprobe i8k" in order to get my fans working07:56
knowledge_any ideas?07:56
^DodGeR^traveller, if the AP is there and the mac address is visible , youre connected to it (then its just config u need to sort out)07:56
Belutzanybody, what should i do when the unmount of CD is failed, i can't get the CD out from my CD Drive?07:57
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^DodGeR^traveller, make sure u got the right gateway set , type 'route' the route with the UG should be the one to your gateway07:57
othernoobeh, just go to options and mark java xry.. i was thinking of konqueror..or listen to sJaM :p07:57
sJaMfind /usr/lib -iname '*libjavaplugin*'07:57
traveller^DodGeR^: gateway, dns, anything that i can think of is correct07:58
sebastianI'm starting to getting tired of this. I think I'lll give up.07:58
sJaMshould give you a set of options07:58
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travellererm...there's one thing though, i have a g card, the network is b, do i need to explicitly specify something?07:58
thr1ceBelutz: eject /dev/cdrom07:58
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sJaMthen use the one in the ns directory07:58
othernoobsJaM do you know if there is an mplayer plugin for opera or if the mplayer plugin for firefox can be used for opera as well?07:58
sJaMopera can use mplayer plugins as I remember07:59
Capposo i rebooted my machine with the ps2 mouse inserted and now it does work, the touchpad doesn work anymore though07:59
othernoobsJaM would you happen to know how?07:59
nickrudsebastian, I just remembered: you need to move the stuff in ~/.asoundrc to /etc/asound.conf07:59
sJaMand make a symbolic link to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins07:59
^DodGeR^last chance is to restart it completely then traveller , /etc/init.d/net.ra0 restart or some such i think07:59
sJaMhmm07:59
sJaMI have opera07:59
xrysjam07:59
xrywait07:59
traveller^DodGeR^: ok i'll try that07:59
nickrudsebastian, if .asoundrc exists, it overrides asound.conf07:59
sebastiannickrud, I think the problem is that UT04 uses OSS.07:59
xryyou write to fast :)07:59
xrynow i entered the iname command08:00
^DodGeR^i also found i had issues sometimes when other interfaces were up , i have 3 NIC's and a wifi NIC , i once had to bring them all down then bring up only the wifi08:00
xryi got lots of hits08:00
Cappogot another question everytime i logon i get the errermsgbox saying missing command to run and networkconfiguration pops up, an id how i can fix this problem ?08:00
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xryand now?08:00
sJaMhmm08:00
sJaMpaste it to08:00
sJaMto a pastebin08:00
sJaMand give me the link08:00
nickrudsebastian, yes, the dmix allows alsa's oss emulation mix more than one sound stream08:01
knowledge_anyone have any ideas on my problem?08:01
sJaMpaste.ubuntulinux.nl/08:01
^DodGeR^traveller, did u compile driver for the wifi nic yourself ? ie ure loading a module for it manually ? maybe unload it and re modprobe it then reconfigure08:01
^DodGeR^last chance it to remve the 'connection' alltogether , and readd it from scratch08:01
sebastiannickrud, The dmix thingy broke stuff for me. :/08:01
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^DodGeR^bbs , pizza is here , good luck traveller08:01
traveller^DodGeR^: it's the original driver08:02
travelleri didn't compile it08:02
travelleryeah i could use some time to do the things you suggested08:02
naliothnickrud: y'all ready for this hurricane to hit freeport and visit the alamo?08:02
xrysjam: http://pastebin.ca/1791708:02
nickrudnalioth, yes, I still haven't gotten there on my own08:02
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sJaMothernoob, the plugin directory of opera is in /usr/lib/opera/plugin08:03
sJaMyou tried to just make a symbolic link08:03
naliothnickrud: stand outside with a big umbrella in a couple days, you'll see the countryside08:03
sebastianI just want my ut04 to work. :(08:03
QaDeSthe nvidia driver doesn't seem to work on my machines...08:04
sJaMxry, it seems that firefox already has a java plugin08:04
thoreauputicsebastian: did you try the "killall esd" I suggested ?08:04
sJaMdid you try to restart your browser08:04
nickrudsebastian, the hack is to just killall esd, and run ut.08:04
xryyes08:04
sJaMok08:04
sJaMdid you installed java twice ?08:04
sJaMat 2 different ways08:04
xryhm?08:05
xryi've installed java in one million ways08:05
sebastianthoreauputic, nickrud The problem is that ut use the wrong card even though I've set alsa to use the right card.08:05
drayentrying to follow the wiki page on building new java versions, but cant get past the "No matching plugin was found." problem - useing amd64... any ideas?08:05
Belutzthr1ce: i got this error when eject /dev/cdrom : eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument08:05
thr1cewhat is your cd device?08:05
Belutz/dev/cdrom08:05
sJaMcould you do a:08:06
sJaMls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so08:06
sJaMto check if the symbolic link matches ?08:06
sebastianHmm, I just had an idea, I could make an automatic ntfs drive mounter, the only problem is that my patience with Ubuntu is starting to run out.08:06
Cappogot another question everytime i logon i get the errermsgbox saying missing command to run and networkconfiguration pops up, an id how i can fix this problem ?08:06
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sJaMif it is red with a black background it is invalid08:06
thoreauputicBelutz: try using sudo eject ; if that doesn't work try sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject08:06
drayensJaM was that directed at me?08:06
dusselmanndoes anyone wants to play freeciv?08:06
thoreauputicBelutz: that last command sets eject suid root08:06
sJaMno to xry08:07
drayen:)08:07
Belutzthoreauputic: sudo eject works... thanks :)08:07
thoreauputicBelutz: no worries :)08:07
sebastianI've spent all day getting Linux to work. I guess I should just give it up and go back to Windows where things work. *is still impressed by the patience full time Linux users must have*08:07
kbrooksno.08:07
kbrookssebastian, no08:07
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xrysJaM: http://pastebin.ca/1791808:08
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kbrookssebastian, you could search the wiki08:08
thr1cesebastian: lol, it's simple08:08
thr1cesebastian: either something is using your sound, your permissions are off, or it's not looking in the right spot08:08
drayenanyone else manage to install java on amd64? care to give me a few pointers ?08:08
thr1cehave you tested that it works with somethign else, like a media player?08:08
sJaMyou tried to install backports java xry ?08:08
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mattyJanyone here use monodevelop? i cant get it to work, not sure if it requires some setting up first, the build and run buttons dont work08:08
sebastianthr1ce, It works, but with the wrong sound card.08:09
sJaMwell was it in red with a black background ?08:09
xryyes08:09
sJaMok08:09
sJaMdo08:09
sJaMsudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so08:09
sJaMand then a08:09
other|studydrayen: java hasn't been completely ported to amd64 yet.08:09
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sebastianIt's be easier if the dns lookup wasn't screwed. :/08:10
other|studydrayen: you can install it but you won't have the plugin and the webstart08:10
sJaMsudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:10
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Mafiis there a ubuntu update for firefox 1.0.5?08:11
Mafibecause I can't find it08:11
drayenother|study, im not worried about the plugin and webstart at the moment... just wnat to get java apps running08:11
bolsMafi, no.. if you want it you have to compile it from the sources or build yourself a .deb package08:11
xrysJaM: done08:11
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Mafibols, thanks08:12
sJaMrestart ff08:12
sJaMand it should work08:12
sebastianAh well, back to Windows it is. Goodbye and thanks for all the help!08:12
knowledge_does anyone know why that happened?08:12
sJaMthe symbolic link you removed with the first command08:12
sJaMwas probably from a different java install08:12
sJaMwhich wasn't removed08:12
drayenother|study, im trying to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions as a tut - but hit a road block when make-jpkg'ing08:12
sJaMwhen you removed the package08:12
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Mafianother question. are the repositories from ubuntu guide good? because I use them with a little personal mod, by removing the us. prefix from the adresses because it was getting me broken libraries. can anyone suggest me a better resositories list?08:13
sJaMdoes it work xry  ?08:13
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naliothMafi: the US repos are the only ones having the transmisstion problem08:14
NoHopehi all08:14
other|studydrayen: well i'd advise to use the instructions from sun then ..or synaptic if available for amd6408:14
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Belutzwhat should i install for playing DVD movies?08:14
Mafinalioth, so using archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu solves the problem. is there a better list that the one from ubuntu guide?08:15
Belutz!dvd08:15
ubotuI haven't a clue, Belutz08:15
nickrud!java08:15
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.08:15
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drayenBelutz, i like useing VLC08:15
thoronHow can I work with this? http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/CACertInclusion08:15
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other|studyBelutz: libdvdcss2 and vlc should be enough iirc08:15
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Belutzok, i'll try it08:16
nickruddrayen, try that ubuntu page, it was updated recently08:16
Mafican someone suggest me a good repositories list?08:16
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naliothMafi: if you use backports, extras or marillat regularly, it is just a matter of time b4 your system grinds to a halt08:16
nalioths_dogMafi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:16
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Mafinalioth, why's that?08:17
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to|mwhat is the nme of the /etc/cups/*.conf ?08:17
slavehello all !08:17
kbrooks!BACKPORTS08:18
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!08:18
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slavewhat version is stable for 64 bit ?08:18
rg58smahiii08:18
other|studyslave: hoary?08:18
GnobodyHoary08:18
rg58smasomeone have idea how to change the subtitle font to srt in terminal08:18
kbrooksubotu, !backports =~ s/08:18
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:18
naliothMafi: because of version discrpancys in the different pkg requirements08:18
kbrookser08:18
slave5.4 ?08:18
Gnobodybackports are stable enough08:18
kbrooksubotu, !backports =~ s/day to day usage!/regularly!/08:18
ubotui didn't have anything called '!backports', kbrooks08:18
Gnobodythats like saying debian etch != stable08:19
kbrooksubotu, backports =~ s/day to day usage!/regularly!/08:19
ubotukbrooks: OK08:19
slaveIS THERE A ENTERPRISE VERSION FOR UBUNTU ?08:19
sJaMPackage Testers08:19
sJaMUbuntu Backports is a community driven project. Most importantly, I need YOU to help me test packages, and provide feedback. Newly compiled packages are in -staging trees (i.e. warty-backports-staging, etc). These are directly uploaded by me after compile, so I cannot guarantee their stability. Speaking from experience, 99% of the backports I've uploaded to staging get directly marked stable without changes, so I'm pretty good at stability!08:19
sJaMBut, BIG FAT WARNING: The staging area should be treated like Debian experimental -- it's NOT tested, NOT guaranteed in any way, shape or form to be stable!08:19
kbrooks!backports08:19
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for regularly!08:19
Gnobodythere will be 6.0408:19
Belutzother|study: i can't find libdvdcss2 ?08:19
naliothMafi: if you use those 'unofficial" repos regulary, your system will have too many interconnected unofficial pkgs to downgrade cleanly, and at some point you'll not be able to upgrade either08:19
Gnobodywill be the enterprise ver08:19
poningrucan someone check a page for me?08:19
rg58smaeyyy someone have idea how to change the subtitle font to srt in terminal08:19
Will_Gnobody: Stop saying my name!08:19
Will_I was asleep08:19
poningruwikipedia.org?08:19
sJaMfrom the backports.ubuntuforums.org08:19
Mafinalioth, so what sould I not use?08:19
Gnobodysorry Will_08:19
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kbrooksubotu, backports =~ s/for regularly!/regularly!/08:20
ubotuOK, kbrooks08:20
kbrooks!backports08:20
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports regularly!08:20
kbrooksnalioth, thanks for that correction.08:20
other|studyBelutz: then get new repositories..not sure in which one it is08:20
Will_*giggle* Don't be08:20
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naliothMafi: i think you should comment out (or uncheck in synaptic) hoary-backports, hoary-extras (and at a minimum, uncheck/comment out marillat <it has gotten way behind re ubuntu>)08:21
kbrooksnalioth, whats with marillat anyways08:21
knowledge_can someone please help me get my wifi working?08:21
nickrudBelutz, what they mean is check backports, get libdvdcss, then uncheck it. That qualifies as 'not regularly' :)08:22
nebularhow do I reconfigure my x configuration? I just installed hoary and my x server can't go up to my maximum resolution (and is there any special way to get the nvidia packages working, or do they go fine right out of apt?)08:22
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to|mwhat is the nme of your the /etc/cups/*.conf  file?08:22
sJaMthere are multipls08:22
other|studykbrooks: marillat=debian=different from hoary08:22
naliothnebular: watch ubotu08:22
nalioth!resolution08:22
ubotusomebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:22
epwhere are the forums?08:22
to|mis it cups.conf or cupsd.conf?08:22
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Mafinalioth, are the repositories from ubuntu guide safe enougth?08:22
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slaveThanks all u folks so much for the advices, I will try out now, CHOW !08:23
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^DodGeR^traveller, any luck ?08:23
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naliothMafi: i dont recommend the ubuntuguide at all, i suggest wiki.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com/newusersguide  (may be singular "user"  <<<)08:23
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djpcan anyone tell me why at boot time i receive the following message... *Setting disc parameters... /dev/hdc: No such file or directory08:24
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Mafinalioth, I get your point now08:24
fedetxfhi, people, i just installed hoary and my serial mouse is not working. i managed to amke it work in fedore core 4 using inputattach and mouseocnfig, but those tools are not in ubuntu. what can i do?08:24
djpshould i worry about it or just ignore it?08:24
nickruddjp, does that happen before or after hotplug?08:24
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kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, george?08:25
djpbefore hotplug, nickrud08:25
knowledge_ok...I recompiled my kernel yesterday with a patch...and now my wifi won't work, it's rocognised, but htere's no driver08:25
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, did we help you install ubuntu?08:25
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searcher`djp: don't worry about that, i have the same message08:25
tiefoxthere is an ubuntu firefox 1.0.5 package ?08:25
nickruddjp, then don't worry about it08:25
kbrookstiefox, no, but08:25
searcher`i *think* it's related to hdparm trying to set the disc param for hdc08:25
kbrooks!firefox08:25
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"08:25
djpsearcher`: ok. do you know why?08:26
to|mhas anyone a parport printer? could u say me pls what is in ur /etc/cups/printers.conf at DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 ...is it right?08:26
shakuhashianyone knows an ubuntu customization with LTSP installed?08:26
djpthanks nickrud08:26
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searcher`djp: you can check if /dev/hdc is oke using hdparm /dev/hdc08:26
kbrookstiefox, where 1.0.4 is replaced with 1.0.508:26
searcher`DMA etc should be enabled08:26
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Belutz!backports08:26
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports regularly!08:26
other|studydjp because hdparm is only for the harddrives on ubuntu iirc08:26
searcher`other|study: works on cdrom as well08:26
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searcher`except for the -m setting08:27
kbrooksubotu, !backports =~ s/; also,/./08:27
ubotui didn't have anything called '!backports', kbrooks08:27
kbrooksubotu, backports =~ s/; also,/./08:27
ubotukbrooks: OK08:27
djpit may have only started since i enabled dma, but i'm not sure...08:27
kbrooksubotu, backports08:27
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Do not use the backports regularly!08:27
thoreauputickbrooks: AFAIK there's been no recent security updates on Ubuntu's firefox, so setting 1.0.5 in about:config is probably premature08:27
searcher`dma, unmask intr and read-ahead are all configurable (at least, at the 8 pc's i've tried it)08:27
funkyHatubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net, recomended, or not?08:27
djpon the /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd devices08:27
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other|studysearcher`: on some systems..yes..but the hdparm.conf on ubuntu is only for the harddrives08:28
to|mhmm, I think I found a, eror in printers config if u have a parport printer08:28
traveller^DodGeR^: no luck at all08:28
erirlarhow do i remove esd and reconfigure alsa again?08:28
searcher`other|study: actually, i use that to set hdc and hdd08:28
searcher`you have to add a new section for those respectively08:28
thoreauputicother|study: erm.. hdparm.conf works fine for CD or DVD as well08:28
nickruddjp, yes, hdparm is called before the cd is properly configured by hotplug, if I recall correctly08:28
to|mcould anyone hellp me verify it?08:28
Dr_GonZohello08:28
other|studythoreauputic: on some systems..08:28
Dr_GonZoI have a question08:28
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searcher`are the IDE cd drivers modules or built into the kernel08:28
nickrudmodules08:29
funkyHatDr_GonZo, just ask :)08:29
searcher`i always assumed as a module08:29
Dr_GonZohow start an application at login08:29
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searcher`that would explain the not found message08:29
Dr_GonZofor example starting amule pr azureus08:29
searcher`module isn't loaded at that point in the boot08:29
Dr_GonZothx08:29
Dr_GonZo:)08:29
Dr_GonZothx funkyHat08:29
djpnickrud: ahh, ok. so nothing to worry about... thanks once again08:29
to|mplz, add a parport printer an show me ur /etc/cubs/printers.conf  DeviceURI parallel:/dev/???08:29
funkyHatDr_GonZo, go to System > Preferences, and click on 'Sessions'08:29
djpthanks for your input searcher`08:30
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nickrudto|m, mine is /dev/lp008:30
funkyHatDr_GonZo,  then go to the 'Startup Programs' tab08:30
^DodGeR^guess u might have to remove and readd traveller :(08:30
naliothDr_GonZo: system > preferences > sessions (look for the startup tab)08:31
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travellererm...remove and re-add?08:31
Dr_GonZothx08:31
Dr_GonZonalioth, and funkyHat08:31
to|mnickrud: hmm, ok... so my conf wasn't08:31
Dr_GonZo:)08:31
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kbrooksubotu, backports =~ s/Do not use the backports regularly!/Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu./08:31
ubotukbrooks: OK08:31
Dr_GonZogreat distro ubuntu08:31
Dr_GonZo:)08:31
nickrudto|m, why are modifying cup's config by hand, anyway?08:32
to|mnickrud: because it doesn't work with gnome frontend08:32
dell500how exactly do you update the firmware for certain DVD drives in ubuntu?08:32
funkyHatthanks kbrooks08:32
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to|mnickrud: it never did the right parport in the file I think08:33
kbrooksfunkyHat, for?08:33
nickrudto|m, may I pm you?08:33
to|mnickrud: yes08:33
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cartmando I need an SMP kernel to enable Hyper Threading?08:33
kbrookscartman, No.08:33
cartmanI added ht=on to boot commandline & sure CPU has HT but dmesg says HT is disabled08:34
funkyHatkbrooks, i asked about ubuntu backports08:34
cartmankbrooks: might SMP kernel disable HT?08:34
kbrookscartman, I'm not on a P4.08:34
naliothcartman: i hope not, what if you have dual-proc dual-core P4s running?08:34
Belutzspeaking of kernel... how do i edit the kernel?08:34
cartmankbrooks: alright08:34
cartmannalioth: then wonder why its disabled08:35
searcher`Belutz: generally speaking, you don't08:35
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kbrooksBelutz, Why do you want to?08:35
cartmannalioth: /proc/cpuinfo says HT extension  is there08:35
Belutzkbrooks: just playing around with linux08:35
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Kris|Sickhello08:36
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kbrooksBelutz, "playing around" doesnt include kernel "editing"08:36
cartmanso anyone using HyperThreading here08:36
Belutzkbrooks: ic08:36
bluefoxicysitchiation managed.08:36
Krismy wife is having probs with her ubuntu computer today so I've got a few questions for ya ;)08:36
kbrooksask.08:36
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searcher`Kris: i'm working on the g/f pc, so lets hear it08:36
Krisfirst, is there a easy to use NFS filebrowser of any sort?08:36
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Belutzkbrooks: is there a file who store the information about the hardware in use and the hardware setting?08:37
Krispreferably gui?08:37
cartmanKris: nfs:/ in konqueror08:37
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KrisI'm a commandline guy, I don't really touch gnome at all08:37
Kriscartman she's using gnome08:37
kbrooksKris, nfs is GUI indepent08:37
cartmanKris: ok08:37
Kriskonquerer is kde I think08:37
searcher`yup08:37
searcher`you can use nautilus to connect to a nfs server08:37
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searcher`also works for scp, ftp and some other stuff08:38
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searcher`if you're using hoary you can select `connect to server' from the Places menu08:38
A[D] minSi want to take image ISO from CD ... how i can do it ?08:38
Krisbasicly the problem is nautilus isn't showing one of our ubuntu boxes in the windows workgroup but it shows up via commandline08:38
blueyedI've used makejail to create chroots for my apache virtual hosts. Because this also mounts /proc there 'du' says that they use > 500MB. How can I get the real used diskspace?08:38
Krisok I'll try that searcher`08:38
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Mafinalioth, can you provide me a safe good repositories list?08:39
searcher`Kris: you can also mount NFS shares using /etc/fstab08:39
djpok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa08:39
djpt there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?08:39
kbrooksMafi, yes. paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:39
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Quest-MasterCan someone tell me why my apps. are so slow compared to Windows? Firefox takes 3 seconds to load in Windows, 15+ in Ubuntu.. Foobar2000 takes 1 in Windows, Rhythmbox 10+.. HydraIRC loads in 2 on Windows, X-Chat more than 5 on Ubuntu.. it is the case like this for just about all of my apps.08:40
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Quest-MasterAlso08:40
Krissearcher` there is no connect to server option under places08:40
Quest-MasterI run a prelink after every apt-get operation, so.. yeah08:40
searcher`Kris: try opening a nautilus _browser_ window (so no spatial browser)08:40
searcher`it should be in the file menu08:40
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Krisok08:41
travellerdoes ubuntu have a firewall enable by default?08:41
Mafikbrooks, I think that's somehow everything. am i wrong?08:41
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naliothMafi: the dog just sent you one08:41
blueyedtraveller: no08:41
nalioths_dogMafi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:41
kbrooksnalioth, i linked him08:41
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naliothtraveller: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13008:41
GnobodyTraveller: Yes08:41
Gnobodymost linux distros do08:41
Gnobodyit's called iptables08:42
naliothkbrooks: sorry, am on my scan windows every minute dance (got lots goin on)08:42
kbrooksGnobody, no08:42
Gnobody?08:42
searcher`Gnobody: but it's not enabled by default08:42
kbrooksit's not 'enabled'08:42
Dr_Willis:P08:42
Gnobodyahh08:42
Mafithanks08:42
Gnobodyvery easy to enable08:42
Dr_Willisiptables is the command used to 'create' a set of firewalling rules.08:42
naliothtraveller: that link will explain a bit about iptables08:42
kbrooksGnobody, uh08:42
kbrookswho told you that?08:42
klaymhow do I take a screenshot via terminal?08:42
kbrooksit's not 'very easy' to enable08:42
searcher`klaym: install scrot08:43
Gnobodymyself, iptable rules are not hard08:43
klaymsearcher': or eat my scrotum08:43
Will_Gah. My internets is breaking08:43
travelleri saw this "ip_forward=no" in /etc/network/options, could that be preventing a connection?08:43
thoreauputickbrooks: install imagemagick ; then   import -window root screen.png08:43
Gnobodyfirestarter is good08:43
klaymor was it a joke?08:43
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Krissearcher` connect to server had no option for nfs server08:43
thoreauputicor screenie.jpg or whatever08:43
searcher`Kris: my mistake then08:43
Krisand trying windows share in that dialog was unsuccessful08:44
^DodGeR^by default u should be able to get 'out' no worries traveller08:44
klaymsearcher': sorry08:44
searcher`you can add an entry for an nfs server in fstab, or maybe someone else knows another way08:44
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searcher`klaym: apt-get install scrot :-)08:44
klaymyea ok08:44
sJaMdoes someone know here to have a iptables script initialised by default when booting08:44
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klaymit's a utility?08:44
djpok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa08:44
djpt there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?08:44
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traveller^DodGeR^: well, this time i'm seeing the door, just can't get through it with seemingly all correct settings within my knowledge08:44
Quest-Master-_-08:45
thoreauputicKris: if you've set up nfs, you just use the mount point defined in /etc/fstab to mount the share08:45
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travellercould it be that i need to tell my G card to use a B network specifically?08:46
^DodGeR^traveller, do u have a default gateway ?? and can u ping it ?08:46
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^DodGeR^it should use as narrow a net as possible08:46
travellerit's in route, but can't ping it, "Destination host unreachable"08:46
Raptoidselamlar.08:47
^DodGeR^ahh haaa08:47
^DodGeR^networking issues , netmask to narrow ?08:47
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traveller^DodGeR^: how do i check that?08:47
Krisaaah ok08:47
Krisnfs08:47
^DodGeR^untill your routing allows u to get to your gateway u aint going nowhere08:47
Krisnot running08:47
knowledge_follow the guidelines to make a kernel from there <----???08:47
Krisheh08:47
ernstphehe, X is indeed broken in breezy08:47
knowledge_some one told me that08:47
Kriswhat's the package name for nfs?08:47
^DodGeR^your gateways IP an internal ip ? like 192.168.0.1 ?08:48
ernstpDoes xkbcomp really exist in any package in breezy right now or is it lost for the moment?08:48
KrisI've got smbd and nmbd running....08:48
Krisbut no nfsd that I can see08:48
thoreauputicKris: there are two you probably need - nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server  also possibly portmap08:48
^DodGeR^clearly your internal ip must be in the same subnet as your gateway08:49
^DodGeR^on that interface08:49
thoreauputicalthough portmap may be a dep of the others...08:49
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traveller^DodGeR^: my gateway has 192.168.55.108:49
^DodGeR^ie if your wireless gatway is 192.168.1.1 then your wireless ip must be something in 192.168.1.X if your netmask is 255.255.255.008:49
Krisyeah nfs-common automaticly installed portmap08:49
^DodGeR^ok now we talking , that being the gatway , your internal Ip must be 192.168.55.X with subnet 255.255.255.008:50
nickruddjp, hal is part of what gnome uses to handle dynamic devices; a one time glitch in that is probably nothing to worry about08:50
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Belutznickrud: i already install vlc and libdvdcss2, i can play DVD movies, but i got no sound, what might cause the problem?08:50
nickrudBelutz, I don't have a dvd, so I don't have a clue :)08:50
Krisok got nfs now how do I start it running?08:50
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teprrrhello there, can anyone say if it's possible to make this work: http://pastebin.com/31514708:51
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^DodGeR^then your default route must be from anything on 192.168.55 via 192.168.55.1 - ie 'route add default gw 192.168.55.1' traveller08:51
traveller^DodGeR^: i did all that08:51
djpok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa08:51
djpt there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?08:51
thoreauputicKris: I suggest you read this >> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/08:51
^DodGeR^if your on the same subnet and the route is good u must be able to reach and ping the gw , cant have an unreachable there08:52
Kristhanks, just what I was looking for :)08:52
^DodGeR^maybe a timeout if it aint there , but not unreachable08:52
naliothdjp: what are you worried bout re your HD test?08:52
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traveller^DodGeR^: my laptop now is connecting through it, windows on that other computer could connect to it08:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYisn't hal that computer from that movie? you know the one that gos crasy and kills the crew?08:52
aru2001 A space oddesy08:53
Krisah ok nfs is not what I want after all08:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea there we go ^_^08:53
arusp.08:53
Kriswhat I need is for her to be able to see smb shares08:53
Servo888anybody know where libtoolize would be located in apt-get? can't seem to apt-cache search it08:53
^DodGeR^huh ? so its working now ?08:53
Krisshe's not going to be able to go in and add nfs directories whenever she wants something shared08:53
thoreauputicKris: this is similar but maybe easier to follow: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/08:54
glickgmplayer cant seem to play my mpeg files08:54
glickit just freezes08:54
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traveller^DodGeR^: i have two computers here, a laptop which is what i'm using now, and the other computer with ubuntu, mandriva, and windows08:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYeww windows >.<08:54
Krisi think I'd be better off with a smb troubleshooter08:54
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KrisI know I saw one on the web somewhere....08:54
^DodGeR^ahh and u know its working since youre here , but windows cant connect to it ?08:55
travellerwindows connects, mandriva requires a 64bit driver which isn't released by the vendor, and ubuntu with seemingly all right configs but couldn't connect08:55
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atlas95hello08:55
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LDHi, can anyone help me in mounting a CompactFlash Reader?08:55
travelleri'm using the laptop now, it's the desktop that has the problem08:55
glickdoes anyone kow why mplayer wont play my mpeg files08:55
glick?08:55
thoreauputicKris: yeah - I use NFS exclusively as I only have linux boxen08:55
atlas95scuse, i'm searching for play one movie in vlc or mplayer in fullscreen08:55
glickit just freeses08:55
Krismy wife dual boots windows and ubuntu08:55
^DodGeR^weird - dunno08:55
atlas95LD, i search that too08:55
travellergod hates me :(08:56
Krisshe's not very linux savvy so I'm just looking for an easy way to get to her files stored on our smb server08:56
LDatlas95: any luck?08:56
^DodGeR^the gateway allows connections from any MAC address ?08:56
Krisher ubuntu box sees all the other computers on the network except the one that has all the files08:56
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traveller^DodGeR^: yes08:56
^DodGeR^ie its not setup so it allows the laptop but nothing else ?08:56
atlas95i don't know my girlfriend give me is compactflash tonigh08:56
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atlas95and i search how to read it with my printer08:56
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atlas95hp psc 135008:56
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oliv67#ubuntu-fr@irc.freenode.net08:56
traveller^DodGeR^: it had mac access on, but i disabled it08:56
D1my mom uses ubuntu. ;] 08:56
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^DodGeR^if u cant get windows to connect , your bound to have zero luck with anything else08:57
TheWarMachineanyone know how to play .bin  files on linux08:57
D1of course she doesn't really notice the difference between it and windows08:57
TheWarMachine?08:57
atlas95with windows any problem bit...08:57
yahalomwhat is the breakage level of breezy?08:57
D1but it works for her.08:57
traveller^DodGeR^: windows connects08:57
LDatlas95: all I need is to find the device name (ex. sda*), but I get 'unable to read partition table'08:57
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thoreauputicKris: maybe the problem is at the Windows end? (just a guess)08:57
yahalomany experience?08:57
^DodGeR^ugg08:57
thoreauputicyahalom: /topic08:57
travellerit's only ubuntu...it should connect...but it's not....08:58
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yahalomthoreauputic, thanx didnt see that :)08:58
^DodGeR^dunno then :(08:58
^DodGeR^end of my knowledge08:58
D1what exactly does gnome's file sharing do to the smb.conf?08:58
glickwhy does gmplayer freeze when trying to play an mpeg?08:58
D1cause it has very limited options.08:58
TheWarMachineanyone have any idea?08:58
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glickno error messages08:58
geokkerwhat is a .bin file?08:58
Swabby-is Ubuntu fit for enterprise?08:58
D1glick, do you have the w32codecs installed?08:58
glickon the commandline this is the last thing it prints08:58
glickalsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=008:58
glickalsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default08:58
TheWarMachinebin is a cd image08:58
naliothTheWarMachine: bin files are usually NOT "playable"08:58
glickD1, yes08:58
D1and its ALL mpgs?08:59
travellerhow do i get ubuntu to use a better display driver? it's running 1280x1024 at 60Hz, but my monitor can go up to 85Hz at that setting08:59
atlas95how to restart HAL?08:59
geokkersounds vaguely familiar08:59
^DodGeR^i had zero issues with ubuntu traveller , wireless worked first time easy08:59
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glickThe selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.08:59
glickVDecoder init failed :(08:59
geokkercan you not burn it back to an audio cd and then rip it yp ogg?08:59
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naliothtraveller: what kind of video card do you have?08:59
teprrrso, is there a way to install a package with dpkg when it's not possible to run pre/post and such scripts?08:59
travellernalioth: radeon 9200 se08:59
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teprrr--force-all doesn't help08:59
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^DodGeR^ull need to adjust the horizontal/vertical rates in the config file09:00
blueyedIf I mount /proc somewhere to be available after 'chroot', does it really take the diskspace (like du reports)?09:00
naliothtraveller: you can use the VESA driver to get better display options09:00
kbrooksblueyed, no09:00
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atlas95how to restart hal proc please?09:00
^DodGeR^mine is 31.5-94.0 and 30-90 , it runs 1600x1200@75 with that09:00
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teimui just downloaded the new firefox version. coming from a windows background, im looking for some 'Program Files' to extract it to. where would you typically extract something like firefox in a linux system?09:00
travellernalioth: how do i set that...can't seem to find that option in the menus09:00
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naliothteimu: programs YOU install usually go in /usr/local/bin/09:01
Miksdoes anybody know how can i change the font colors in the gnome panel?09:01
glickam i missing some codec or something09:01
glickor some library?09:01
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robert_pectolTheWarMachine:  Are you simply trying to mount the ISO image itself (assuming it's an ISO image)?09:01
teimu nalioth  ok, thanks for your help!09:01
D1probably in gtkrc file?09:01
naliothtraveller: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and watch for the parts about resolutions and driver. for driver, choose VESA09:01
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mamewhy i cant play video with totem ?09:02
mamedivx movies by example ...09:02
Ju1cehave you got the codecs09:02
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travellernalioth: thanks09:02
nalioths_dogmame: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support09:02
blueyedkbrooks: and do hardlinks use twice the space? is it wise to hardlink the php-binary into a chrooted chost?09:02
glicki downloaded the w32xcodecs09:02
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Krisok I'm gonna rephrase my question here: My wife dual boots between windows and ubuntu. While in windows she sees all the samba shares on the network without problems, but while booting to ubuntu she cannot see samba shares on one of the other ubuntu boxes. Any ideas?09:03
djpnalioth: sorry, just seen your response. well it tells me the mount check after 30 restarts has failed, although everything boots up ok and appears to be operational...09:03
kbrooksblueyed, No.09:03
kbrooksblueyed,09:03
kbrooksyes, no09:03
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teprrrcan anyone say what can I do to make this disappear? E: The package apt-utils needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.09:04
teprrrapt-cache policy founds it09:04
blueyedkbrooks: hardlinks use twice the space?09:04
teprrrand dpkg -i doesn't work as it can't run post/pre scripts...09:04
blueyedkbrooks: better copy them there?09:04
klaymanyone know a fun multiplayer game (via internet) from apt?09:04
nickrudatlas95, sudo invoke-rc.d dbus-1 restart will restart hald09:04
naliothdjp: ok then. if you are concerned about your HD, install 'smartmontools' and run 'smartctl'09:04
kbrooksblueyed, I said in orer09:04
naliothdjp: this program reads the S.M.A.R.T HD data09:04
naliothklaym: bzflag?09:05
djpnalioth: is that generally what a fail means then, that the hard drive could be failing?09:05
klaymnalioth: I'll check, thanks09:05
Ju1cewhen I had Gnome,  (a with umlauts) and  (o with umlauts) worked just fine. But now I use kde and i can't use scandinavic characters.09:05
kbrooksorder*09:05
Ju1cewhere could I set the correct charset?09:05
glickwhat the hell09:05
Will_KDE is racist!09:05
djpthanks for the smartmontools advice nalioth by the way09:06
blueyedkbrooks: I had two question, and 3 anwers given from you. What would be better than hardlinking into the chroot environment?09:06
D1I wonder whatever happened to the coaster project09:06
D1I dont think its in ubuntu09:06
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Ju1cewhen I type '' or '' they will appear as '' and ''09:06
kbrooksblueyed, Not 3 answers. "do hardlinks use twice the space? is it wise to hardlink the php-binary into a chrooted chost?" yes, no. copy.09:07
Ju1cedefinitely wrong charset, but how to correct it?09:07
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Ju1ceanyone?09:08
blueyedkbrooks: thanks. Is it a security issue regaring hardlinks? Because it would make it easier to upgrade every host's php version if they were hard linked.09:08
glickgmplayer doesnt play shit, not my avi's not my mpegs09:08
glickwtf09:08
D1what gnome needs is a GOOD ftp client.09:08
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funkyHatD1, gftp?09:09
blueyedD1: ftp is evil. Think sftp.09:09
thoreauputicglick: you have w32codecs installed?09:09
kbrooksblueyed, Ahhhh. I honestly don't know.09:09
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D1I dont like gftp09:09
D1no tls support09:09
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D1and doesn't follow the HIG09:09
glickthoreauputic, yes09:09
kbrooksblueyed, don't jump on users like that09:09
Ju1cemy locale is fi_FI.UTF-8@euro09:09
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funkyHatblueyed, what sftp client do you use?09:09
kbrooksfunkyHat, uh09:09
batkins_what's the easiest way to add a different screen resolution?09:10
blueyedKonqueror, funkyHat.09:10
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kbrooksfunkyHat, ftp servers > sftp servers09:10
naliothbatkins_: watch ubotu09:10
nalioth!resolution09:10
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:10
blueyedD1: sorry, I don't wanted to sound harsh. But FTP is unencrypted, also the passwords.09:10
funkyHatkbrooks, eh?09:10
batkins_uboto?09:10
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kbrooksfunkyHat, more ftp servers than SFTP servers09:10
thoreauputicbatkins_: ubotu [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:11
death_to_gateslimewire for linux has to be the best p2p app i have ever used09:11
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D1blueyed, maybe so. but it doesn't stop people from using it.09:11
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glickdeath_to_gates, gtk-gnutella09:11
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funkyHatahh, i see, i was just wondering what sftp client blueyed used as i use gftp for sftp access, and he said he didn't like gftp09:11
kbrooksdeath_to_gates, aMule is Free and open source. don't use limewire!09:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYglick i tryed it it goofed up my box for some reason09:11
kbrooksuh09:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi use what works i know it's not open source and that is really really sad09:12
kbrooksis it true /proc uses 258 mb?09:12
glicki cant play any of my shit whit mplayer09:12
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glickgoddamnit09:12
batkins_ChurcH_of_FoamY: i2hub is the greatest09:12
batkins_ChurcH_of_FoamY: althought it's more the network than the app itself that makes it so09:13
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BiSK-8hello09:13
BiSK-8can any1 tell me how to make a music cd with ubuntu09:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi wanna know too09:13
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other|studyBiSK-8: use k3b09:13
nickrudglick, have you tried changing the vo option in /etc/mplayer.conf09:13
to|mwhich package i need 2 surf via nautilus?09:13
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kbrooksto|m, NONE.09:14
batkins_BiSK-8, ChurcH_of_FoamY: k3b09:14
kbrooksto|m, zero. void. nil.09:14
to|mkbrooks: ? but it doesn't work09:14
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kbrooksto|m, hoary or warty?09:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:14
funkyHatother|study, if k3b is a kde app, that's an awkward way to go about it for a beginner ubuntu user09:14
BiSK-8yep, i have it installed but where can i find it ?09:14
batkins_funkyHat: why?09:14
to|mkbrooks: hoary09:14
kbrooksother|study, k3b looks bad on gnome09:15
IIIEarsgnomebaler is also good09:15
batkins_BiSK-8: run "k3b" from the shell09:15
other|studyfunkyHat: it is..but k3b is the best burnprog for linux...09:15
IIIEarserm gnomebaker"09:15
kbrooksother|study, k3b looks bad on gnome09:15
batkins_kbrooks: it doesn't look that bad, but it is indeed the best there is09:15
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other|studykbrooks: uhu..09:15
D1I hope gnomebaker rivals k3b one day.09:15
BiSK-8ok09:15
D1that app has potential.09:15
BiSK-8thanks09:15
kbrooksbatkins_, well imo qt and gtk  conflict09:15
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batkins_kbrooks: get over it09:15
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to|mkbrooks: and now?09:16
other|studykbrooks: i've used k3b on FC3 with Gnome..it doesn't look any different on KDE09:16
kbrooksbatkins_, .....09:16
IIIEarswith rememember "joliet" is the type of CD you want if windows compatibility09:16
other|studyfunkyHat: would you rather have me advice to use CLI cdrdao?09:16
batkins_kbrooks: don't turn down a superior application because it has a different theme than your system09:16
to|mkbrooks: and now? i have hoary09:16
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kbrooksbatkins_, fine fine09:17
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funkyHatbatkins_, i turn down k3b because gnomebaker does fine for me, and i'd rather not install any kde components unless i really have to09:17
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erikpcan someone tell me how to tell what version of a package I have installed, and how to list it's contents?  the apt-equivalent of rpm -q?09:18
funkyHatnot that i dislike kde, i'd just rather have a consistent UI09:18
HappyFoolerikp: dpkg -s <package-name> lists status info09:18
HappyFoolerikp: to get just the version, try 'dpkg -s <packagename>|grep Version'09:18
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kbrooksfunkyHat, same09:18
HappyFoolerikp: to get a list of file, dpkg -L <packagename>09:18
nickruderikp, dpkg -L <package> for a file listing09:18
erikpHappyFool/nickrud: perfect, thanks!09:18
BiSK-8ok09:19
BiSK-8it works09:19
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drayenanyone a eclipse don? just installed it and im trying to install some plugins but getting stumped by the install location...09:19
BiSK-8my cd is burning09:19
BiSK-8thanks09:19
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BiSK-8bye09:19
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djpwhat does the ubuntu symbol next to certain packages in synaptic represent?09:20
glicki need to be able to watch my danm pr0n09:20
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other|studyporn.what kind of?09:21
HappyFooldjp: means ubuntu supported - packages in 'main' and 'restricted', afaik09:21
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glickother|study, gmplayer aint playin shit09:21
HappyFooldjp: i think synaptic has a 'legend' under the Help menu09:21
other|studyglick: try vlc then09:21
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glickno i dont want to try some thing else, gmplayer worked fine on my other distro why isnt it working fine here?09:21
other|studyglick: are the files windows media files? have you installed the w32codecs?09:22
glickother|study, yes i have the w32codecs and no they are mpeg files09:22
other|studyweird09:22
djpHappyFool: thanks09:22
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other|studyman in need SOMEONE HELP GLICK ;)09:23
glickheh09:23
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HappyFoolglick: run mplayer from the command line, see what errors it gives09:23
djpHappyFool: yes it does! (/me is embarressed now...) ;)09:23
Ju1ceumm... how to add a locale09:23
glickHappyFool, no error message really it just stops after this point: alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=009:23
glickalsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default09:23
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nickrudJu1ce, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales09:24
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quique#ubuntu-es09:24
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subtleHow do I get rid of the "handles" at the end of my gnome toolbars (ie-to achieve total transparency)?09:25
HappyFoolglick: but nothing works at all? and when you say 'stops' -- it returns to the command prompt?09:25
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nickrudglick, try using ao=esd when you call mplayer09:25
phohi09:25
glickHappyFool, no it does not return to the commandline09:25
Ju1cefinally someone said something wise. Thanks.09:25
raven3x7hi again09:25
^DodGeR^right clcik the bar subtle , proeprties, show hide buttons must be off09:26
glickUnknown option on the command line: ao=esd09:26
HappyFoolglick: hmm. ao=esd works here09:26
glickHappyFool, how do yo call it?09:27
glickwhats the command?09:27
HappyFoolglick: i get a constantly updated status thingy when it plays a movie09:27
HappyFoolmplayer ao=esd merry_melodies_falling_hare_256kb.mp409:27
glicknope i get the same damn thing09:27
HappyFoolhmm09:27
HappyFoolhow'd you install mplayer?09:28
glickHappyFool, through apt09:28
raven3x7is there a way to lock access to the comp without logging out? i want to keep all the apps running but if someone wants to use the comp they need to use the password like the password feature in screensavers for windowz09:28
subtleYes (show hide buttons) is off, but there are still handles on each side...09:28
kbrooksraven3x7, yes09:28
nickrudraven3x7, on the top menu bar, System-Lock Screen09:28
kbrooksraven3x7, if you are on warty09:28
kbrookser09:28
kbrookshoary09:29
phoi have a problem to connect with security.ubuntu.com when i want to install some packages...  is it down atm or is it my ubuntu that is crap? :)09:29
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raven3x7yeah im in hoary09:29
kbrookssystem -> lock screen09:29
KosaiHello.  Can anyone tell me whether the hoary installer is going to be able to resize the OS X partition on my iBook, please?09:29
raven3x7thanks both of ya09:29
HappyFoolglick: what mplayer package did you install? I have mplayer-386, it appears09:30
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glickmplayer-58609:30
subtlemplayer has been freezing for me - every time.09:30
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HappyFoolglick: ok, what does 'dpkg -s mplayer-586|grep Version' say?09:30
z|bandito3:-009:30
raven3x7my mplayer wont do dvds09:31
LDatlas95: I got it working :D09:31
phoso... do i have to reinstall my ubuntu again?09:31
thor|afkKosai: I think not - at least I used the OSX tool on the install disk to make an OSX part and a free space part09:31
glickHappyFool,  Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu609:31
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to|mwhich package i need 2 surf via nautilus?  (hoary)09:32
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raven3x7pho what exactly is wrong?09:32
HappyFoolglick: same as mine. puzzling09:32
thor|afkKosai: you probably have to reinstall OS-X I fear, if you want dual boot09:32
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HappyFoolglick: it seems to ignore ao=esd anyway, afaict09:33
Ju1cedo i have to reboot after changing my locale settings fot the changes to make effect09:33
phohaha... suddenly it runs xD09:33
HappyFoolglick: oh! File not found: 'ao=esd'09:33
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^DodGeR^nite all09:34
raven3x7pho xD?09:34
HappyFoolglick: try this: 'mplayer -ao esd <filename>'   --- no '='09:34
JDahlI was helping someone here last night trying to get openafs working, and I then later found out that an up-to-date version of openafs-client has entered debian unstable... is that likely to be included in Breezy?09:34
BelutzHappyFool: i just add backport repositories, after i reload the package, it alert me for some update, should I update from backports?09:34
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HappyFoolBelutz: i'm not sure; which package?09:35
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BelutzHappyFool: like gaim, a lot of lib packages and xchat09:35
glickHappyFool, cool :) thanks09:35
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phothis is so buggy :/09:35
HappyFoolBelutz: hmm. i wouldn't install gaim or xchat from backports, unless you really need the latest versions09:36
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HappyFoolglick: it's working?09:36
BelutzHappyFool: what about the lib* packages? is it safe?09:36
nickrudBelutz, no, just get the libdvdcss or whatever, then uncheck backports again09:36
glickHappyFool, yea09:36
HappyFoolBelutz: err, i don't know that one09:36
HappyFoolglick: cool09:36
Belutznickrud: ok thx09:36
BelutzHappyFool: :)09:37
glicki can watch my porn again :)09:37
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HappyFoolglick: i think you can fiddle /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to set the output to esd 'permanently'09:37
phogeat09:37
nickrudBelutz, it would be best to just do sudo apt-get install libdvdcss from the command line09:37
Belutzbtw, can i share mbox from thunderbird with evolution?09:37
other|studynickrud: shouldn't it be libdvdcss2 ?09:38
thoreauputicnickrud: I think it's libdvdcss2 now09:38
Belutznickrud: yup.. i already installed it and dvd movies are working, and the sound is working too now :)09:38
Kosaithoreauputic: Hm, thanks.09:38
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nickrudthoreauputic, I don't have a dvd, so it doesn' trip of my tongue, I just knew from earlier what he wanted09:39
thoreauputicKosai: you could google for "hfs + resize " I guess09:39
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joakimUbuntu gives me a hard on09:39
nickrudBelutz, no, no sharing of mboxes, but you can use dovecot-imapd to maintain a mail store both can use09:39
thoreauputicnickrud: yeah, I was being my usual painful pedantic self  ;-)09:40
joakimReally09:40
thoreauputicjoakim: seek therapy ;)09:40
joakimNever :D09:40
nickrudheh, in this room, pedanticism is a useful trait :)09:40
bddebianhaha09:40
Belutznickrud: actually i'm POP-ing from gmail, is it possible to use that dovecot-imapd ?09:40
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nickrudBelutz, I would think so, I pop from my net email account and drop it where dovecot can see it09:41
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nickrudwell, I have been, I haven't set it up on this machine yet09:42
Belutznickrud: ok, let me try it09:42
nickrud*channel *blush09:42
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Evilhello all09:43
phohi09:43
Evilhow can i downgrade X please09:43
Belutznickrud: on second thought, maybe i just use thunderbird and uninstall evolution09:44
DAWKIRSTHi. I was workin in OpenOffice on a html document. I saved and closed. Now I can't access any of the links on my desktop. The error message is: There was an error launching the application. Any suggestions?09:44
HappyFoolEvil: what have you upgraded to?09:44
nickrudBelutz :)09:45
Belutznickrud: btw, what's the different between 'removal' and 'complete removal' ? is 'removal' doesn't clean all the files?09:45
DAWKIRSTAnd how can I see which proccesses are currently running?09:46
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thr1ceDAWKIRST: run ps aux or top09:46
Evili have the latest but i want to go back to the 6.8.2-35 HappyFool09:46
JDahlbob2, what are the chances of openafs 1.3.82 (http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openafs.html) making it into Breezy, possibly in universe?09:46
DAWKIRSTWeird, my terminal won't open.09:46
kbrooksJDahl, bob2 doesnt 'know it all'09:48
thoreauputicJDahl: my guess is bob2 is still asleep :)09:48
HappyFoolEvil: hmm. i'm guessing something as simple as 'apt-get install xserver-xorg=6.8.2-35' doesn't work?09:48
thoreauputicMon Jul 18 05:48:14 EST 200509:48
JDahlkbrooks, worth a try :)09:48
thoreauputickinda early in bob2 part of the world09:48
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poningruits 1548 here09:48
HappyFoolthoreauputic: so he's making *his* problems *ours* ? shocking.09:49
thoreauputicHappyFool: yeah, we should speak sternly to him about sleeping: just not acceptabl behaviour ;)09:49
Evilnot found09:49
ray_any of u guys know of a good dvd ripper?09:50
HappyFoolEvil: doh. anyway, i'm not really clued up on breezy -- that was just a guess09:50
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[2] BoxingFiendray_: try dvd::rip09:51
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ray_[2] BoxingFiend: is that something i can apt?09:52
frankiedoes anyone know how to configure a linksys wireless-b notebook adapter?09:52
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febelinghas anybody ruby on rails with apache and fastcgi running?09:55
febelingi only want to know if its possible...09:55
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DAWKIRSTWhenever I try to launch something from my desktop an error message occurs telling me that it can't find the location.09:56
kbrooksfebeling, #ruby-lang09:57
ermac`does anyone know how i can run the photoshop installer with wine?09:57
febelingok09:57
IIIEarsubotu mgetty09:57
ubotuI don't know, IIIEars09:57
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IIIEarsubotu modem09:58
ubotuIIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:58
IIIEarsubotu vgetty09:58
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?09:58
DAWKIRSTAnyone?09:58
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black-whispanyone got a simple way to get win codecs for ubuntu?09:59
JDahlDAWKIRST, you need the enter the full path.. a bit cumbersome09:59
synd!restricted09:59
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:59
thr1ceDAWKIRST: what did you do right before this started?09:59
syndblack-whisp, goto that URL09:59
IIIEarsDAWKIRST - i am really new i would try to launch it from a terminal to eliminate permission errors09:59
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black-whispsynd: thx09:59
IIIEarsIf that works you know it is a problem with user status10:00
DAWKIRSTthr1ce, I worked in OpenOffice on a html document, saved it, closed it, and then it started.10:00
RexKwonDoI have a tungsten E and I was wondering how to make it sync with ubuntu.  Any https I should go gaze upon?10:00
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IIIEarsman strace will give you hints as to what might be wrong. - unfortuneatly i don't have your answer.10:01
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IIIEars<< - 13 weeks with linux - Yaay! :)10:03
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IIIEars!pim10:04
ubotuIIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:04
itmIhave joined ubuntu as of midnight last night - it is the first time I've felt comfortable with my computer since the mid 80ies10:04
HappyFoolIIIEars: 13 weeks and you've used strace? impressive ;)10:04
raven3x7hmm rythmbox is somewhat unstable10:04
fr500what is strace?10:05
RexKwonDothat's like saying Mike Tyson is a bit troubled10:05
thoreauputicraven3x7: a masterfull understatement :)10:05
raven3x7lma10:05
HappyFoolsystem call trace -- lets you see what system calls an application is making10:05
raven3x7lmao10:05
fr500oh10:05
fr500ok10:05
DAWKIRSTthr1ce, any suggestions?10:05
Whistleris there any tools for mp3 reencoding?10:05
thoreauputicWhistler: lame ?10:06
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Petrovhello10:06
Petrovwere can i find ftp servers?10:07
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kbrooksPetrov, for what?10:07
thoreauputicWhistler: have you tried "audacity" ? Quite a nice sound editing app...10:07
imaekDoes anyone know of a linux image organizer like iPhoto, but specifically one where I can view a directory of images in sequential order10:08
Petrovfor everthing10:08
Whistlerok ill try10:08
thoreauputicimaek: gqview10:08
La_PaRCaimaek, gthumb10:08
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fr500imaek, may not work for you but i use folders10:08
fr500:p10:08
fr500and gthumb10:08
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Petrovkbrooks, for Everything10:09
La_PaRCaPetrov, everything what?10:09
glickthats cool iraqilinux.org10:10
HappyFoolPetrov: do you want to run an ftp server, or do you want to download something from an ftp server?10:10
kbrooksPetrov, there's no SINGLE ftp server FOR everything10:10
PetrovI look for ftp server for games, mp3, linux , ...10:10
thoreauputicPetrov: can you reduce the set size slightly from " The Whole Universe" ? *grin*10:10
rgouldInteresting - I am trying to copy files to a USB drive, but Nautilus thinks the drive is full, but I can copy them fine using command line10:10
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Discipulusrgould, then use the command line?10:11
thoreauputicPetrov: you want to "run" a server, or find servers to get stuff from ?10:11
Petrovfind servers10:11
Discipulusthoreauputic, He is looking...10:11
JDahlthoreauputic, I think he asking for the "warez" repository...10:11
rgouldDiscipulus, looks like I have to, but nautilus is more convenient. I guess I could copy them all to one directoy and use the command line to copy them all over from there.10:11
HappyFoolarchive.ubuntu.com has 1337 linux warez10:11
thoreauputicPetrov: google is your friend ...10:11
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Petrov:p10:12
Discipulusrgould, command line is much more powerful :-P10:12
HappyFoolrgould: maybe the entire fileset selected is more than the free space?10:12
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rgouldof course, but it less convenient for browsing a large directory structure10:12
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rgouldHappyFool, that's what I thought at first, but the same operation succeeds on the command line where it doesn't in nautilus10:13
HappyFoolrgould: hm. ok, i give up ;)10:13
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rgouldyeah, it struck me as weird10:13
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[v2hja] hello :D10:14
HappyFoolbedtime for me. good night!10:14
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sJaMgtg10:15
sJaMcu10:15
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Discipulusis there a good dos emulator for linux?10:15
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hybrid_gotheveryone leaving?10:15
hybrid_gothDiscipulus: dosbox10:15
wasabiHey. I'm trying to get a gameport joystick working.10:15
kbrooksno10:15
hybrid_gothDiscipulus: if it runs on linux i dont remember10:15
wasabiHow do I get udev to create the device node, and the driver to see it?10:15
thoreauputicDiscipulus: apt-cache show dosemu10:16
rgoulddoh! It didn't actually copy it properly. and it is refusing to copy any further, even though I have deleted plenty files on the usb-drive10:16
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Discipulusthoreauputic, thx10:16
rgouldIs there anything I have to setup to support usb-drives properly?10:16
hybrid_gothrgould: is it mounting10:17
rgouldyeah10:17
Raskallrgould: should work with hotplug without any configuration10:17
rgouldi can read from it just fine, but it is reporting only 3.2 MB10:17
[v2hja] hello ..... so ..... here is yet another problem ......... http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kettad1dg.jpg .......... i would like to shrik linux part down to 9 gigs ........ how can i do it ?10:17
rgouldwhich is what it had when I first mounted it - I deleted files and remounted it10:17
rgouldand it is still reporting 3.2 MB free10:17
hybrid_gothrgould: warty hoary or breezy?10:17
rgouldhoary10:17
moZeri want to rebuild a deb package from debian unstable, so i figured i run "apt-get -d source foo" to get a rebuildable package...but i'm wading through google and man pages of dpkg and friends, but i can't find any way to rebuild what i got from the apt operation: a .dsc file, a gzipped diff and the original sources10:17
raven3x7need to get some sleep10:18
raven3x7bye10:18
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[v2hja] what can i do10:18
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[v2hja] part magic wont let me resize10:18
[v2hja] and mepis live cd says the drive is buzy10:18
zaudragonwow Ubuntu is cool :D10:18
Raskall[v2hja] : parted or qtparted10:19
Raskall[v2hja] : qtparted is in universe10:19
kbrooksRaskall, OR10:19
kbrooksRaskall, OR10:19
kbrooksRaskall, OR10:19
kbrooksgparted10:19
hybrid_gothkbrooks: gparted is parted10:19
Raskallkbrooks: ok.. didn't know that exeisted10:19
kbrooksno10:19
hybrid_gothkbrooks: like gcc is cc10:20
kbrookshybrid_goth, wrong10:20
hybrid_gothkbrooks: how?10:20
kbrooksgparted is GUI10:20
hybrid_gothkbrooks: man them10:20
[v2hja] root@ubuntu:/home/v2hja # gparted10:20
[v2hja] bash: gparted: command not found10:20
phoagain i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com....10:20
hybrid_gothkbrooks: o_0 so is qtparted10:20
[v2hja] qtparted wont run in gnome ........ :S10:20
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[v2hja] i belive its kde only10:20
aruyou have to install the gparted package10:20
hybrid_gothpho: hoary?10:20
Raskall[v2hja] : then gparted. I guess gparted is just parted and qtparted with a gnome gui.10:20
kbrooksRaskall, no10:21
hybrid_goth[v2hja] : qtparted ran in gnome for me and xfce10:21
kbrooksRaskall, gparted is qtparted with a GTK gui10:21
kbrooks"gimp toolkit"10:21
[v2hja] can i resize the part that linux runs at the moment ?10:21
Raskallkbrooks: potato potato10:21
hybrid_gothkbrooks: i appologize10:21
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Raskall[v2hja] : try? if not, run from the livecd.10:22
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Sionidehttp://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/  <- uhh.. wow, coolest keyboard ever10:22
[v2hja] sionide10:22
Ju1cewhen i try compile a program, i get an error that libxext is not installed10:22
[v2hja] wait a sec10:22
kbrooksRaskall, gparted is similar to partition magic10:22
[v2hja] i modded it a bit :D10:22
hybrid_gothSionide: have you seen the DAS kb?10:22
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Sionidehybrid_goth, nah, link ?10:22
phohybrid_goth: its 5.0410:22
Ju1cebut when i apt-get intall libext, it claims that libxext is the newest version available10:22
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hybrid_gothSionide: daskeyboard.com it has no letters10:23
phohybrid_goth: dunno if hoary or woary or whatelse10:23
hybrid_gothpho: hmmm..10:23
Raskallkbrooks: so is qtparted. i guess all *parted is parted with some kind of gui.10:23
hybrid_gothpho: hoary10:23
thoreauputicJu1ce: look for -dev packages when compiling10:23
Sionidehybrid_goth, ah yeah rubbish - a mate of mine just scratched all the letters off his and on mine, well i've used it so much the letters are rubbing off anyway! :P10:23
Ju1cei have installed libxext-dev 210:23
phohybrid_goth: yes.. i looked it up10:23
[v2hja] Sionide, http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutcopy7fr.jpg <- i guess alt key would have alot attention :D10:23
kbrooksRaskall, yes10:24
hybrid_gothSionide: yea but it is way cool. i wont buy it!10:24
phohybrid_goth: is it normal that it makes so much trouble?10:24
[v2hja] 200-300 bucks10:24
Sionidehaha10:24
Sionideyeah10:24
thoreauputicJu1ce: what are you trying to compile?10:24
Sionidecheaper than a brand new cell phone, but.. it's a keyboard so wtf!10:24
Ju1ceamarok 1.3 beta 210:24
hybrid_gothpho: i dont understand your question10:24
Raskallis breezy usable now, by the way?10:24
hybrid_gothno!10:25
hybrid_gothRaskall: X is broken10:25
thoreauputicJu1ce: is there some feature you need? amarok is available in ubuntu10:25
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Raskallhybrid_goth: ok.10:25
aruI would late for a release announcement instead of asking daily :)10:25
aruwait even10:25
hybrid_gothRaskall: unless you are like me and prefer CLI. the X doesnt bother me :P10:25
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Ju1ceyes, I have amaroK 1.2, but I want 1.3 :P10:25
hybrid_gotharu: heh10:25
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phohybrid_goth: the problem is that when i install something by using the ubunut servers...mostly it doesnt connect to security.ubuntu.com server...10:26
Raskallhybrid_goth: :) I embrase progress, so I have adopted gui applications on desktops.10:26
[v2hja] http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutcopy7fr.jpg ----- this would actually pwn ....... and in the future ......... we will have popups on keyboard ...... all keys would suddenly disapear on there would be a large cock boning some pussy and some realy nasty text too :D10:26
phohybrid_goth: this is really bullshit10:26
Raskallhybrid_goth: but I am fluent in CLI. Work a lot via ssh from out of the house, so cli is nice to know.10:26
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hybrid_gothRaskall: i love cli more resources10:27
hybrid_gothpho: what is?10:27
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Raskallhybrid_goth: my laptop has enough resources anyways. 2 gigs mem 1.7 ghz pentium M and sata disk.10:27
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hybrid_gothRaskall: mine doesnt. what about cli progress thats what i want10:28
phohybrid_goth: there is this installation programm for adding new software... it partly cant connect to the servers for downloading the packages10:28
hybrid_gothRaskall: links let me use gui browsing10:28
hybrid_gothpho: it maybe that the server is down10:28
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aruI thought I heard someone say earlier that there is a problem with US servers today10:29
hybrid_gothkbrooks: u still here10:29
phohybrid_goth: i thought so... but this is crap!10:29
glickwhy dont the big ass companies like IBM and compaq and hp donate some hardware to iraq for christsake?10:29
Raskallhybrid_goth: I guess.. but still, web browsing is best with graphics, imho. But when I am hooked up via gprs/edge I turn off image loading.10:29
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hybrid_gotharu: if you have a bad md5sum10:29
knowledge_Guys, I need help....I keep having to do sudo modprobe i8k and it won't save it10:29
knowledge_and my wifi isn't working10:29
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knowledge_all because I patched my kernel10:30
aruhybrid_goth: thanks for not making sense :)10:30
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glickmaybe set up free wi-fi in baghdad and get these people connected10:30
knowledge_with another driver10:30
kbrooksknowledge_, add i7k to /etc/modules10:30
kbrooksi8k*10:30
Raskallknowledge_: add "i8k" to the file /etc/modules10:30
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hybrid_gotharu: the us servers dont work if your md5sum is invalid10:30
aruthere you go10:30
kbrookshybrid_goth, no10:30
phohybrid_goth: but much severe is that my internet connection sucks after rebooting the system... that means i have to reinstall the whole ubuntu to open webpages and use messengers and stuff...10:30
knowledge_kbrooks, Raskall, and as for my wifi card?10:30
[v2hja] glick, connected .... for what ? ----- so they would organice and be more dangerous to the us forces and to the world10:30
kbrooksknowledge_, model>?10:30
Raskallknowledge_: I thought you did the modprobe thing for your wifi card. has your wifi card ever worked?10:31
glickmaybe if we actually did something constructive there, the insurgents would stop fighting us10:31
kbrookspho, no.10:31
glick[v2hja] , the insurgents are a minority10:31
knowledge_Atheros AR521110:31
hybrid_gothpho: this isnt windows10:31
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knowledge_it worked before I patched my kernel with the alps touchpad driver10:31
Raskallknowledge_: ok.. you need the madwifi drivers.10:31
glick[v2hja] , most people are just poor bastards who wanna live their lives10:31
phohybrid_goth: i know :)10:31
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knowledge_Raskall, yes, it did work before I patched that kernel10:32
aruglick: #ubuntu-offtopic10:32
phohybrid_goth: so.. it have to work far better...10:32
[v2hja] wifi is the last thing they need10:32
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Raskallknowledge_: you have to get madwifi into your homebrew kernel somehow10:32
[v2hja] food and water and medicine is more needed than fucking internet10:32
knowledge_so I have to redo everything I did and add the wifi drivers?10:32
glick[v2hja] , most universities there dont even have email that connect students and staff10:32
Raskallknowledge_: but I cannot tell you how. I just read somewhere that atheros use madwifi.10:32
phokbrook: u have a solution for that? its driving me crazy...10:32
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knowledge_mann, the only reason I did it was because it was a quick how to...I'm not too comand line inclined10:33
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kbrookspho: for?10:33
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yahalomanyone here have ubuntu looking like mac os x?10:33
knowledge_ok what needs to be done after I mess with make menuconfig?10:34
knowledge_someone told me to recompile my kernel10:34
knowledge_but I have no clue how10:34
Munkusdoes anybode have experiences in running ubuntu on a acer travelmate 800 ?10:34
phokbrooks: my internet connection only works directly after installing ubuntu...10:34
thoreauputicyahalom: yeah, I just run mac-on-linux ;)10:34
Raskallknowledge_: what made you compile your own kernel?10:34
knowledge_Alps Touchpad drivers10:34
knowledge_for my laptop10:34
yahalomthoreauputic, i mean the theme. u use a mac os x theme?10:34
knowledge_there was a how to on the ubuntu forums10:35
phokbrooks: after restart browsers messenger cant find the way to the www10:35
thoreauputicyahalom: heh - no I use fluxbox :)10:35
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yahalomthoreauputic, any idea how i can get a mac os x type top bar?10:35
Raskallknowledge_: agh.. that much work for a sucky way to control your mouse. :) When I had the same problem I bought a tiny optical travel mouse.10:35
kbrookspho: i know why10:35
Raskallknowledge_: and disabled the touchpad in bios10:35
phokbrooks: though i can install from the ubuntu servers10:35
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hybrid_goththoreauputic: how does flux look?10:35
phokbrooks: great!10:35
kbrookspho: system > adminstration > networking10:35
thoreauputicyahalom: if you mean the functionality I think KDE has something similar10:36
yahalomthoreauputic, on gnome.10:36
Raskallwhat do I have to apt-get to get the development tools and headers in?10:36
ishkabobhey all, i was hoping someone might help with a gftp problem?10:36
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knowledge_Raskall, the funnier thing is every thing was working fine I just wanted the extra features.....10:36
yahalomthoreauputic, i saw it done on gnome.10:36
thoreauputichybrid_goth: well, flux looks any way you want it, really10:36
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dylan_is there a sure-fire way to remove GNOME?10:36
hybrid_goththoreauputic: i have xfce should is it less consuming?10:36
phokbrooks: what now?10:36
hybrid_gothdylan_: apt-remove gnome10:36
kbrooksdylan_, pho: wizard pop up?10:37
kbrookser10:37
kbrookspho: wizard pop up?10:37
kbrooksdylan_, n/m10:37
knowledge_so no one knows what I should do?10:37
phokbrooks: a window... dont know whats a wizard...10:37
thoreauputichybrid_goth: flux uses less resources, yes - but the hoary fluxbox has an issue with fonts so I compiled mine with -disable-xmb to fix it10:37
phokbrooks: ethernet connection....10:37
aruI'd go ahead and leave gnome, it really enchances the desktop :)10:37
kbrookspho: well , i got a wizard3 pop up10:37
dylan_apt-get remove gnome does not work10:37
glickhybrid_goth, xfce4 is nice10:38
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kbrookspho: deactivate eth010:38
phokbrooks: well ... the ethernet card is configured... and it works atm... but it wont work when i restart again...10:38
knowledge_Raskall, if I do the wifi thing....will I lose my alps driver?10:38
knowledge_or am i just adding?10:38
phokbrooks: k10:38
kbrooksThe connection, to be exact.10:38
kbrookspho: reeactivate10:39
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hybrid_gothglick: yes xfce is nice but i am bored with it10:39
Raskallknowledge_: you just add. But I am not sure if madwifi is included in the kernel source. check madwifi.sourceforge.net or something. maybe you can just download and "make install" the drivers on your running kernel10:40
knowledge_Raskall, thanks10:40
kevinknowledge: 1 min I have a link for you10:41
ishkabobhey does anyone know anything about gftp?10:41
hybrid_gothwell everyone i got to go10:41
hybrid_gothbe back later10:41
glickhybrid_goth, bored with it?10:41
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thoreauputicishkabob: rephrasing your question might be an idea, methinks ;)10:42
Raskallknowledge_: you can try asking at #madwifi irc channel here on freenode too.10:42
ishkabobhehe, ok10:42
funkyHatishkabob, just ask :P10:42
ishkabobheres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP works great.  Any idea10:42
ishkabobit seems like some weird configuration or something10:43
kevinknowledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4167010:43
Raskallishkabob: tried any other ftp clients?10:43
thoreauputicishkabob: I have a feeling gftp wasn't compiled with sftp support for Ubuntu - I may be wrong10:43
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kevinRaskall: that link is how I got my madwifi working10:43
ishkabobhmmmm, that coule be10:43
funkyHatoh, that's rather annoying10:43
funkyHati was counting on using that once i get my server back online10:44
ishkabobi have tried the sftp protocol in nautilus10:44
ishkabobthat works fine10:44
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ishkabobi would like for her to use gFTP just because it looks nice and is easier10:44
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Raskallishkabob: sftp and ftp is not the same protocol10:44
pietro_spinaishkabob: I use sftp gftp from an ubuntu10:44
pietro_spinaishkabob: but it is not to an ubuntu box.... however...10:45
thoreauputicRaskall: I think he knows that10:45
Raskallishkabob: what is wrong with making a bookmark to the site in nautilus? nautilus is as nice and easy as gftp10:45
Raskallwell.. I have to call it a night.. getting up in 5 hours again.10:46
MrMoWhy does USB  have to be such a pita?10:46
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ermac`why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?10:47
tfortanyone know why i would be getting a seg fault when i try and go into quicktime's trailers?10:47
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MrMoWhy does my USB 2.0 card turn up as a 4 port ehci_hcd AND as 2 2port uhci_hcds?10:47
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KB2000anybody know a good channel for asking about C# problems?10:48
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ermac`why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?10:48
MrMoKB2000, irc://irc.gnome.org/mono ? maybe?10:48
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thoreauputicKB2000: umm... try #C#10:49
thoreauputicKB2000: 66 people in there now10:49
KB2000nice10:49
KB2000thanks10:49
ishkabobmaybe i should clarify the fact that i'm using the ssh2 part of gFTP10:49
ishkabobwhich i'm relatively sure uses sftp10:49
ishkabobso perhaps its compiled differently for ubuntu than it is for debian10:50
ishkabobor other systems10:50
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tfortwhats the problem ishkabob10:50
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ishkabob(13:42:24) ishkabob: heres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP w10:50
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ishkabobim using the ssh2 part of gftp10:50
tfortshe is using port 22 right?10:50
tfortcuz it defaults to 2110:50
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thoreauputicah, good point10:51
ishkabobhmmmm, i don't think she specifies a port10:51
tfortmake her put in 2210:51
ishkabobok10:51
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black-whisphow do you make a shortcut for a folder????10:51
ermac`why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?10:52
tfortblack-whisper, you mean link it?10:52
tfortln -s?10:52
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ishkabobi still wonder why it works in debian and not in ubuntu10:52
tfortor... something like that10:52
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ishkabobcause i don't specify a port in debian either10:52
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black-whispokay.. :P10:52
tfortis it working?10:52
doonzhey guys you know when you shut down it offers to save your desktop how do i remove that saved desktop10:52
tfortblack-whisp, hold up10:52
pietro_spinaishkabob: in the bar accross the top of gftp the ssh2 option defaults to port 2210:52
thr1cerm .gnome2?10:52
ksmurfhere's a noob question.  I want to change my drives from Fat32 and Ext3 to Reiser or Reiser4 .... is there a way to convert10:52
ishkabobah i see10:52
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ishkabobso then thats not the problem10:53
thr1ce@ doonz10:53
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tfortiskabob, did she try it and it didnt work?10:53
ishkabobno, she is not by her computer, iwill have to wait til later to ask10:53
ishkabobhmm, wait one second though10:53
ishkabobi might be able to try it myself10:53
tfortcuz i switched to ssh2 and i couldn't connect to my edu's sftp unless i did that10:53
ishkabobwell seh can connect, its just that she can't download anything10:54
pietro_spinaishkabob: look in options, try setting the preserve file permissions off(uncheked) or have you already tried that?10:54
tfortishkabob, ohhhh10:54
tfortwhat are the priv on it?10:54
tfortmake the group ownership users10:55
tforthehe10:55
ishkabobooh no, havent tried that10:55
tfortthat should work10:55
tfortif she is of course in the group users10:55
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ksmurfalso if i made a proggie say " ping -i3 192.168.0.1" saved it as an sh and ./proggie would it work or would I have to run it in termianl?10:55
thoreauputictfort: which by default in Ubuntu or debian she wouldn't be, BTW10:56
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ishkabobso i chould change the files to group ownership?10:57
ksmurfanyone?10:57
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thoreauputicksmurf: you would need it to be exeutable, and have first line #! /bin/bash10:57
pietro_spinaishkabob: just the ones you want her to see.... not the thoer shuff <wink>10:57
thoreauputic*executable10:58
OdiiNanyone knows how to configure Konversation and firestarter to be able to resume dcc download ? ( i'm bellow a router)10:58
OdiiN*behind :P10:59
thoreauputicksmurf: and as it stands you'd run it in a terminal anyway - so it would be easier to make an alias instead10:59
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ishkabobhow do i go about changing a file to group ownership11:02
ishkabobright now, its owned by me11:02
fortysixand2a file can only have one owner, I think11:02
ksmurfthoreauputic alias?11:03
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pietro_spinaishkabob: I believe the default behaviour in the home dir is that files have owner=pietro, group=pietro ,others....11:05
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thoreauputicksmurf: in ~/.bashrc, put a line in aliases like alias myping='your command here'11:05
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fortysixand2I have one - alias la='ls -la'11:05
JingleBellsi've just installed ubunto, my first attempt at using linux, and I notice that the firefox version is 1.0.2 (which is actually 1.0.4 apparently) the latest version, yet the latest version is 1.0.5, how do I go about installing this?11:05
thoreauputicwhere 'your command here ' is your particular ping command11:05
tritiumJingleBells, it's not currently available as a .deb package for ubuntu11:06
pietro_spinaishkabob: change the group to users and all users can RWX(however you have it set up...11:06
ishkabobRWX ?11:06
knowledge_well the guys over at madwifi were no help11:06
fortysixand2read write execute11:07
knowledge_anyone else know why this happened11:07
JingleBellsso theres no way of installing it from the file on the mozilla homepage11:07
knowledge_?11:07
ishkabobah11:07
thoreauputicpietro_spina: umm... users are not by default in "users" on debian distros11:07
pietro_spinaishkabob: the other alternative is to give the "others" category elevated permissions...11:07
pietro_spinathoron: ahhh, did not know that...11:07
fortysixand2I think you can do that, JingleBells11:07
fortysixand2but I prefer to wait until the package is in the repos11:07
pietro_spinathoreauputic: oops11:08
tritiumJingleBells, you can do that, but I'd recommend not installing it in a system directory.11:08
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tritiumother than perhaps under /usr/local somewhere11:08
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funkyHatJingleBells, why do you need 1.0.5?11:09
ishkabobyeah, i gave the others category RWX, and it still doesn't work11:09
funkyHat(yes, guys, i think having the up to date version would be nice too :P)11:09
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toxickorehi, how do i force a package to be removed with apt?11:09
ishkabobwhich is weird, because when the Others category has just Read permission, gFTP works fine from a debian machine, just not an Ubuntu machine11:10
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JingleBellsi like to have the latest version of software installed11:10
crazy2kHow can I speed up Ubuntu's initialazation process?11:10
fortysixand2JingleBells:  try gentoo if you want the latest & greatest11:11
Servo888Besides the lt-modem module what was that other module (had something to do with serial) that looked like ls-modem (or something). Still for winmomdems, just the serial portion11:11
pietro_spinaishkabob: but you don't really want to elevate the others category... try adding her username to the users group(if it exists) and try that way.11:11
La_PaRCacrazy2k, stop all the services you dont need from loading on startup.11:11
ishkabobi don't think the users group does exist11:11
ishkabobabd'11:11
crazy2kLa_PaRCa, where can I see a list of them or something?11:11
tritiumJingleBells, every six months ubuntu has a new release.  It never gets very far behind.11:11
ishkaboband, even if it did, i elevated the others categories and it still doesn't work, so i'm skeptical as to whether that would do anything11:12
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blackskytoxickore, you probably want to use dpkg rather than apt11:12
ishkabobi don't think the problem is in the file permissions11:12
tritiumcrazy2k, /etc/init.d11:12
crazy2kThanks.11:12
toxickoreblacksky: yup....11:12
pietro_spinaishkabob: yeah, I agree11:12
tritiumtoxickore, dpkg --purge <packagename>11:12
ksmurfthoreauputic ok I will add the line myping= command and it will run @ startup?11:12
blackskytoxickor, dpkg --purge --force-all <packagename> would be a brute force way to do it11:13
La_PaRCacrazy2k, they are in /etc/rc2.d11:13
thoreauputicksmurf: no11:13
JingleBellswell seeing as firefox 1.0.6 is out soon, it seems behind to me, but i'm used to windows where I can update things easier I suppose :)11:13
ishkabobi honestly think this is a bug in the way that gFTP was compiled for Ubuntu11:13
tritiumishkabob, don't think so...11:13
toxickoretritium: thanks11:13
thoreauputicksmurf: it will run if you type myping11:13
ishkabobno?11:13
La_PaRCacrazy whatever you dont want loaded at startup you remove from the /etc/rc2.d directory11:13
kbrooksishkabob, what is?11:13
ishkabobhold on, let me find the original question11:13
ishkabobheres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP works great.  Any idea11:13
thoreauputicksmurf: I think you need to clarify what you actually want to do here11:13
ksmurfthoreauputic ok and so I could put that in startup11:13
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tritiumishkabob, no, if we saw this problem more than once, perhaps, but you're the first case I've seen11:13
crazy2kLa_PaRCa, I have no idea what those files are for. :/11:14
ishkabobwell then perhaps its just something thats different about ubuntu machine, some sort of extra security configuration11:14
crazy2kI recognize some of them though.11:14
thoreauputicksmurf: no, aliases are shell things - if you want something like that to run you need to see the output anyway, don't you?11:14
ishkabobi ju8st can't think of what would cause this problem11:14
funkyHatJingleBells, the ubuntu version of firefox has all the security patches from mozilla applied, so it's just as secure, it just doesn't have all the other patches. i haven't personally noticed any differences between ubuntu firefox 1.0.2, and 1.0.5 on windows11:14
blmartin777has anybody here used sancho for mldonkey11:15
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La_PaRCacrazy2k, those are all the services that load on startup. If you dont know something, either ask or google for it and see if you can remove it.11:15
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La_PaRCablmartin777, yeah11:15
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fortysixand2I am using 1.0.4, I think from backports11:15
funkyHatbut i agree, i also like having up to date stuff (hint hint, ubuntu devs :P)11:15
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pietro_spinaishkabob: so she can see the files listed but cant download them?11:15
tritiumishkabob, it's more likely something specific to your setup11:15
ishkabobyeah, she can see the files, just not download them11:15
blmartin777is there a ubuntu package for it?11:15
ksmurfthoreauputic ok I want to ping my router every 2 secs because my wireless is shaky.  I found that typing ping -i 2 192.168.0.1 worked to keep the connection alive.  I want a script that runs in the background to do that for me so I don't have to see the terminal11:15
ishkabobunless she uses jsut about ANY other method11:15
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ishkabobother than gFTP11:16
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fortysixand2I guess you could make your own .deb.....11:16
blmartin777 La_PaRCa:  is there a ubuntu package for it?11:16
ishkaboband she has an ubuntu machine11:16
La_PaRCablack-whisp, dont think so, no.11:16
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JingleBells~/.mozilla11:16
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La_PaRCablmartin777, dont think so11:16
JingleBells:|11:16
pietro_spinaishkabob: and you are on an Ubuntu box also?11:16
crazy2kLa_PaRCa, I wan't to get rid of the thing that tries to connect to the Internet to get information for the clock or something.11:16
blmartin777La_PaRCa: thanks11:16
ishkabobyes11:16
fortysixand2NTP11:16
tritiumishkabob, then perhaps something wrong on her end.  Like I said, it works well for nearly everyone that uses it11:17
toxickorehow can i fix this? http://pastebin.ca/1793711:17
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ishkabobi've had the same problem though with a friends server, in the end my friend changed the files so that I owned them, and then it worked11:17
ishkabobbut thats a pretty shaky solution11:17
La_PaRCacrazy2k, I think its rsyn but wouldnt count on it11:18
crazy2kCan't find on Google.11:18
ishkabobdoes anyone know what gFTP uses when it you select ssh2?11:18
thoreauputicksmurf: I guess you could add the command to a wrapper script that starts your connection11:18
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blackskytoxickore: did you try the force-all option for dpkg?11:18
ishkabobi was always under the impression that it used sftp11:18
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jmspeexHi, just installed 5.04 and got a few questions. First, how do I turn off the pc speaker?11:19
toxickoreblacksky: well... that's the first problem i experienced when trying to dist-upgrade11:19
jnkjmspeex, add "pcspkr" to /etc/modules11:19
ksmurfthoreauputic now you are in over my head.... I still a noob11:19
hugowhere the pure-ftpd  config files11:19
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jnkjmspeex, oops to /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:19
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hugowhere the pure-ftpd  config files11:19
tritiumjmspeex, try the audio mixer first11:19
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funkyHati would like to set up LFE crossover on my nForce2 soundcard (onboard nForce mobo), so my subwoofer is used when i play stereo sound11:20
tritiumjmspeex, you should be able to mute it11:20
hugowhere the pure-ftpd  config files11:20
jmspeextritium: I can't11:20
funkyHathow can i do that?11:20
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tritiumjmspeex, can you try alsamixer on the command line?11:20
hugowhere the pure-ftpd  config files11:21
jmspeextritium: I did11:21
jmspeexThe "PC Speaker" was muted11:22
funkyHatat least i think it's called LFE crossover :D11:22
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hugowhere the pure-ftpd  config files11:23
hugoplease11:23
hugohelp11:23
^thehatsrule^use find11:23
^thehatsrule^locate?11:23
^thehatsrule^man11:23
^thehatsrule^etc11:23
[2] BoxingFiendsame place where all config are /etc/11:23
hugoya but where in etc11:24
thoreauputicksmurf: I don't know if this will work, but you could try adding the command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to have it start each time you boot11:24
[2] BoxingFiendls | grep pure11:24
benkong2I need an /etc/hosts question answered please I have a dyndns dynamic domain benkong2.ath.cx in my /etc/hosts I have 127.0.0.1 localdomain.localhost tuxserver second line is 192.168.1.70 tuxserver benkong2.ath.cx is this incorrect?11:24
jmspeexAnother question is how to make the gnome and kde font settings coexist.11:24
tritiumhugo, are you familiar with the "-L" switch to dpkg ?  It can be used to list files in a package...11:24
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jmspeexThe kde font prefs don't affect gnome apps at all, but the gnome prefs affect the kde ones twice.11:25
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pietro_spinaishkabob: my server log shows accepted password for user .... .... ssh2  then subsystem request for sftp...11:25
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gobbolinohi to all11:25
ishkabobyeah, so it uses sftp11:25
jmspeex(I'm using KDE as my desktop, but many gnome apps)11:25
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ksmurfthoreauputic I'll try that...11:26
ishkabobis there a configuration file for sftp?11:26
jnkjmspeex, "affect the kde ones twice" ??11:26
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lcharly_TheOnei have problems with my laptop is "Compaq presario V2312 Amd turion 64 ATI radeon xpress 200m 128mb"11:27
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lcharly_TheOnewhen i install the ubuntu for amd 64 the computer is too slow11:27
lcharly_TheOnealways the proccesor is in 52% in use11:28
jmspeexjnk: If I tell both kde and gnome that I want larger fonts, the kde fonts get it twice (once from kde, once from gnome)11:28
lcharly_TheOnesome body know waht can i do??11:28
Jimboblcharly_TheOne: If you run "top", what program is using the most CPU?11:28
Jimbob(from a terminal)11:28
lcharly_TheOnemmm i don't know11:28
[2] BoxingFiendlcharly: do a cat /proc/cpuinfo, what speed does the kernel recognize it as11:28
Gnobodyyes open gnome-system-monitor and see what is eating up 52% usage11:28
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Gnobodylcharly_TheOne11:29
lcharly_TheOnebecause im in windwos11:29
lcharly_TheOnei uninstall ubuntu11:29
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Jimboblcharly_TheOne: Well, we're not psychic :-)11:29
kevinwhich version of windows lcharly?11:29
GnobodyI have never seen a problem like that11:29
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lcharly_TheOneXP11:30
hugowhere the pure-ftpd congigs files please11:30
GnobodyXP x64?11:30
kevindo a cntrl alt del and and task the process that iis eating the cpu11:30
lcharly_TheOneyes11:30
tritiumhugo, use "dpkg -L pure-ftpd" to  find out11:30
hugowhere the pure-ftpd configs files please11:30
gobbolinosome one can help me about 1280x800 (widescreen) resolution?11:30
lcharly_TheOnein windows the computer is too fast11:30
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tritiumhugo, and please stop repeating11:30
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pietro_spinaishkabob: just the man page that I can find...11:30
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lcharly_TheOnebut in ubuntu the computer is too slow11:30
ishkabobman ssh?11:31
GnobodyIt could be a bug in the Cool&Quiet11:31
ishkabober man sftp?11:31
[2] BoxingFiendhugo: it's not under /etc/pureftp.conf?11:31
kevinsorry misunderstood11:31
mwh_Hi, im looking at buying a HP nc4200, but I'm wondering if the wifi will work with ubuntu hoary11:31
Gnobodyis cool&quiet enabled?11:31
mwh_anyone here who has a nc4200 and who can guide me a bit11:31
Gnobodyand was enabled when you used ubuntu11:31
Gnobody?11:31
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lcharly_TheOnewhen i open a terminal use 100% of the processor11:31
pietro_spinaishkabob: yep... mc11:31
hugodpkg -L pure-ftpdno11:32
hugono11:32
mwh_on the ubuntu site it says something about broadcom nic's not supported, but it seems to be an intel wificard11:32
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zerotimehi, is there any graphical interface for unrar?11:32
hugowhere the pure-ftpd configs files please11:32
tritiumhugo, "dpkg -L pure-ftpd", make sure it's spelled correctly11:32
laulican someone hand me a tut/howto on ubuntu+windows-shares ?11:32
lauli(url)11:32
lcharly_TheOnewell i have to reinstall ubuntu and then maybe you can help me11:32
tritiumlauli, take a look at ubuntuguide.org11:33
zerotimei'd like to unrar a file encripted with password, how can I proceed?11:33
thoreauputichugo: type what you've been told in a terminal and you will see all the files installed by that package11:33
hugook11:33
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pietro_spinaishkabob: also look at /etc/ssh/ssh_config   and man ssh  :)11:33
ishkabobyeah, just looked at ssh_config11:33
nickrudhugo, the config files might be in pure-ftpd-common, or -ldap, -mysql, or -postgresql, depending on what configs you are looking for11:33
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thoreauputic!samba11:34
ubotuI guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba11:34
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thoreauputiclauli:^^^^^11:34
IIIEars!merengue11:35
ubotuIIIEars: Bugger all, i dunno11:35
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pietro_spinaishkabob: the sshd_config also... of course you are already pokeing around in that folder...11:36
thoreauputicIIIEars: have you tried !nougat as well *grin* ?11:36
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zerotimeplease, need some help11:36
IIIEarsHi Threauputic :) - erm  lol no.  !nougat11:36
shookuser1How Ya all doin??11:36
zerotimehow can I unrar a file with password11:36
tritiumishkabob, you shouldn't have to be mucking with your ssh config files.  something else is wrong, I believe11:37
thr1cezerotime: dunno..wine and a brute force PW cracker?11:37
shookuser1I'm having a problem with dvds on ubuntu11:37
dradulzerotime, instead of installing unrar, activate the multiverse repo and install rar. You use the Gnome archive manager to have a graphical interface.11:37
zerotimethx11:37
shookuser1Can anyone help11:37
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ermac`why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?11:38
[2] BoxingFiendshookuser1:  take a look at ubuntuguide.org and install the codecs11:38
ishkabobtritium: well, what do you think is wrong? if its it not a file permissions problem and its not a problem ssh configuration11:38
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zerotimeI noticed some apps like mplayer gui, xmms, and amule have very big fonts, how can I change that?11:39
shookuser1All I found was dvd rw codes11:39
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dradulzerotime, my pleasure. One thing more. You may need to use the command line to extract the contents of a password protected file, but for others, it works just fine.11:39
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[2] BoxingFiendshookuser1: do you have libdvdcss2? if not sudo apt-get install libdvdcss211:40
nickrud!libdvdcss211:40
Belutzhow to have KDE in my ubuntu? so i can choose between KDE or Gnome?11:40
ubotunickrud: I don't know, could you explain it?11:40
synd!restricted11:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:40
thoreauputicBelutz: install kubuntu-desktop11:40
thr1ceBelutz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:40
ca3sarhey im using hoary live cd, but my serial mouse doesnt work. how can i fix it ?11:40
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shookuser12boxingfriends I'll try it thnki you11:41
IIIEars!ssh11:41
ubotussh is probably "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"11:41
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zenlunaticwhy doesn't hoary have a .xinitrc?11:41
arny_my english is very bad. but, one question11:41
zerotimeI just installed ati drivers, and then tvtime stopped working, aguing that theres no yuy2 support, I checked fgrlxconfig and theres nothing to deal with yuy2 support, how can I make tvtime work again?11:41
Discipulusaraw1, don't ask to ask, justa sk11:42
Discipulusjust ask*11:42
benkong2can a directory be renamed in linux?11:42
thoreauputiczenlunatic: 1) debian distros use .xsession 2) you write it yourself11:42
benkong2example postfixadmin-2.1.0 to postfixadmin11:42
Belutzi thought i should install kde-desktop :p11:42
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tritiumishkabob, sorry, hard to say11:42
Belutzthoreauputic: thx :)11:42
arny_Where are there sources.list for ubuntu horary ?11:42
thoreauputicbenkong2: read about the mv command11:42
ca3sarbenkong2 "mv  postfixadmin-2.1.0  postfixadmin"11:43
nickrudbenkong2, mv <old name> <new name>11:43
benkong2I want to follow the postfix wiki but cyrus-sasl will not install any reason why?11:43
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benkong2thoreauputic, thanks11:43
[2] BoxingFiendarny: /etc/apt/sources.list11:43
benkong2ca3sar, thanks11:43
benkong2nickrud, thanks11:43
arny_yes, but, in internet, the "repositorios"11:43
ishkabobtirtium, the thing i'm the most confused about is why i can use gFTP from a debian machine,  but not from an ubuntu machine11:43
zerotimeanyone with the problem I mentioned before? how to enable yuy2 support in ati driver config11:44
ca3saryw, but does someone know it possible to enable a serial mouse on ubuntu live cd ?11:44
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La_PaRCaubotu tell La_PaRCa about codecs11:44
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ernstpanyone found xkbcomp in breezy right now?11:44
erirlaruhm, how do i install a deb package?11:44
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zerotimedpkg -i ..dsa.das..deb11:45
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ishkabobAND, i can use gftp from an ubuntu machine, as long as i OWN the files i'm trying to download11:45
erirlaraha, thanks zerotime11:45
ishkabobbut this is not the case with debian11:45
nickruderirlar, dpkg -i <package>, but the program is probably available in ubuntu11:45
gobbolinohi... i have 2problem with ubunu: 1. resolution widescreen 1280x800 (but gnome monitor panel say 1025x768) and 2. xawtv and ftp uploading program "webcam" where is?or wher is the config file of xawtv?11:45
SogniXI just installed ubuntu 5.04 on my PC (that has multiple hard drives), and the installation part for GRUB saw that I also had Windows so it would be ok to accept the default install for Grub, accepted it - and no Ubuntu! Just windows. :( Any idea? I tried reinstalling and gave it /dev/hda1 as a location for grub as well but nothing :(11:45
arny_Bye!11:46
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NuffSedI have a small problem. My OpenOffice doesnt start?11:47
NuffSedAnyone with an idea11:48
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jnkSogniX: you should probably install grub on another drive... where is ubuntu installed?11:48
jnkNuffSed, wait it's coming lol11:48
nickrudgobbolino, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there will be a section in it saying what resolutions it can and cannot use, maybe there's a hint there11:48
kevinSognix: I have dual booted Ubuntu laots of times and the best way I have found is to use a patitioning tool and make a blank partition for ubuntu, then when it is install go into the grub and make sure that it sees Windows11:49
NuffSedjnk, No I have waited :) It doesnt11:49
SogniXon the 2nd drive..  /dev/hda2 I think11:49
SogniXor is that /dev/hdb1? sorry11:49
thoreauputicNuffSed: what happens if you run " oowriter" from a terminal (without the quotes)11:49
jnkNuffSed, type oowriter in a terminal and see if something goes wrong11:49
[2] BoxingFiendhdb11:49
pietro_spinaishkabob: i vote for a side by side comparisons of the two gftprc files in $HOME/.gftp/  And that is all I have... good luck...11:49
SogniXubuntu has it's own drive11:49
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ishkabobthank you11:49
kevinsorry kevin will stay out of it11:49
pietro_spinanp11:50
jnkSogniX, and what locations have you tried when installing grub?11:50
NuffSedumm.. ok whats the .sversionrc file?11:50
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SogniXwhatever it defaults to on the installer, and /dev/hda111:50
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SogniXand is there a way to get to the grub installer without reinstalling ubuntu?11:51
SogniXit's already there - just need to "see" it. heh :p11:51
thoreauputicNuffSed: it just has the Open Office version afaict11:51
NuffSedah.. now it starts.. .sversionrc pointed to a directory that doesnt exist.11:51
NuffSedthanks for the tip :)11:52
jnkSogniX, you can boot from a live cd and use a chroot11:52
aehoI'm having weird problem in my own compiled opengl apps (supertux, warzone 2100), they compile fine, but I can't see the games really, just black11:52
SogniXhmm11:52
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jnkSogniX, you should try /dev/hda and /dev/hdb, but in the grub syntax ( something like (hd0,0) and (hd1,0) ?)11:52
dradulSogniX, although you can install Ubuntu in the slave disk and install GRUB in the MBR of the first disk, it will not be able to load the grub configuration menu unless *it is in the master disk*, that is you still need a small partition in the master disk that at least contains the boot files.11:53
kevinI am really starting to hare windblows. I have been working on the same pc for little over 3 hours installing and updating win98 se plus all of the apps for it.....grrrrrrrrrrr11:53
aehosounds work, I can see the cursor also in warzone11:53
SogniXoh11:53
bastiI just installed the latest radeon driver and added fglrx to xorg.conf and now I can only choose from 2 differen resolutions..11:53
SogniXkevin, 98? ewww11:54
kevinyup. customer pc lol11:54
SogniXi force everyone to get 2k or XP before I help them :p11:54
kevinI am using my laptop to be in here lol11:54
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kevinSognix: I work with a lot of people on assistance so I have to get them to use the MAR program11:55
MrMoanyone using USB 2 stuff on Ubuntu?11:55
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MrMoor is it just me who has this EHCI->UHCI->Storage?11:56
anubisonce a server is installed does it start @boot automagically or do I have to add it to runtime?11:56
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kyncaniit's automagically added to /etc/rc*.d/11:57
kevinMrMo, I will when i INSTAKK IT on my desktop pc, right now it is on my p1 233 laptop11:57
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kevininstall lol11:57
MrMokevin, ohh well...11:57
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viniPlease, i try to listen some MP3 and receive this message: There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/vini/Desktop/song.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins, what can I do?11:58
La_PaRCaOk, someone just upgraded breezy and got X hosed. How can he fix it?11:58
SogniXvini, what app you trying to listen to them on?11:58
vinitotem11:58
viniSogniX, totem11:58
thoreauputicvini: install gstreamer0.8-mad11:59
SogniXhmm... don't know that one. I was having trouble too until I got xmms - but I like xmms :p11:59
thoreauputicvini: it's in the universe repo11:59
thoreauputic!repos11:59
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:59
zerotimehow to enable dvd playback and divx playback under totem?11:59
La_PaRCa!codecs12:00
ubotuI guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:00

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