[12:01] <amortal_mistake> lindsey: np, you have to be root or use sudo to use it, btw
[12:01] <amortal_mistake> lindsey: so a normal user account would type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[12:01] <robotgee3> any package for preventing/detecting dropped wireless connections?
[12:03] <aceidia> does anyone know how to enable the -jit in wine?
[12:04] <lindsey> amortal: I'm working on it. :)
[12:05] <aceidia> can anyone help me?
[12:06] <benplaut> darn
[12:06] <benplaut> bird stuck in the house
[12:06] <aceidia> that sucks\
[12:06] <TokenBad> now why will az not let me save to mounted drive when I can download from www to mounted drive
[12:07] <benplaut> cathederal celing with windows at the top. te bird keeps trying to go out of those
[12:07] <benplaut> and they have glass and screens
[12:07] <remyforbes777>    hey guys this is not a linux question just a general hardware question
[12:08] <remyforbes777> I have 256 MB in an abit mobo
[12:08] <remyforbes777> i add another 256 and it doesnt show up
[12:08] <lindsey> amortal it generated them so I am hoping everything will work right
[12:08] <remyforbes777> ahh forget it
[12:08] <remyforbes777> lol
[12:08] <kbrooks> ?
[12:08] <aceidia> doe anyone know anything about wine in here?
[12:08] <kbrooks> remyforbes777, what?
[12:08] <HappyFool> aceidia: try #winehq
[12:09] <aceidia> thankx
[12:09] <knowledge_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/635 <---anyone wanna help me with this one?
[12:09] <knowledge_> i"m officially stumpped
[12:10] <ozan_smirnoff> officially?
[12:10] <Belutz> HappyFool: how do i play a file from samba directory?
[12:11] <HappyFool> Belutz: should work as for other files
[12:11] <knowledge_> yeap
[12:11] <remyforbes777> kbrooks: i got it working
[12:11] <knowledge_> officially
[12:11] <HappyFool> knowledge_: you're missing some critical include files (e.g., 'string.h')
[12:11] <HappyFool> knowledge_: try aptitude install build-essential
[12:11] <ozan_smirnoff> knowledge_: install build-essential package. than come back
[12:11] <remyforbes777> my RAM wasnt showing up so i just switched banks , put the new ram in the first bank and put the existing Ram in a different bank and it showed up
[12:11] <Belutz> HappyFool: but i cannot browse the samba directory from mplayer ?
[12:11] <ashaak> hi
[12:12] <ashaak> i have a question
[12:12] <HappyFool> Belutz: hmm
[12:12] <HappyFool> Belutz: try using nautilus to get there first, then right-click -> open with mplayer ?
[12:12] <knowledge_> that's done
[12:12] <HappyFool> knowledge_: those include files are part of libc6-dev -- maybe it got lost when before
[12:13] <HappyFool> knowledge_: err, when you had your libc issue, that is
[12:13] <HappyFool> i need sleep
[12:13] <TokenBad> anyone know how to get AZ to let me download to my mounted drive
[12:13] <Belutz> HappyFool: the mplayer is started, but don't play it (right click -> open with mplayer)
[12:13] <lindsey> Amortal: I still need help please.
[12:13] <knowledge_> HappyFool, I see, thanks I think it's doign it right now
[12:13] <knowledge_> it just went ape shhh....
[12:14] <HappyFool> Belutz: you can try mount it using mount -t smbfs or -t cifs -- sorry, i really need to go to bed
[12:14] <HappyFool> Belutz: ask someone else for more details, or look on the wiki
[12:15] <DaZjorz> helloooo :)
[12:15] <knowledge_> things keep scrolling on the screen now....don't have a clue as to what's going on....I just wanna come back and see that I screwed yet another thing up
[12:15] <lindsey> Okay I am still working on localization. I generated the locales and now need something called lang ru_RU
[12:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know if theres an astronomical clock app for ubuntu?
[12:16] <DaZjorz> Church of foamy: for what ?
[12:16] <DaZjorz> knowledge: whats the problem
[12:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> don't you know what an astronomical clock is? it can only be used for one purpose
[12:16] <DaZjorz> lindsey: try apt-get install ru_RU
[12:16] <ozan_smirnoff> DaZjorz: he needed some dev packages, seems solved
[12:16] <DaZjorz> k
[12:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and thats astronomy
[12:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[12:17] <DaZjorz> church: erm.. xP tell me
[12:17] <Kyral> DIE!
[12:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[12:17] <warnk> I am trying to fix the display on my laptop, it has i915 graphics, but I can't seem to get X to use the drivers.  Anyone able to help?
[12:17] <lindsey> Daz: COuldn't find it.
[12:17] <Kyral> Wow, I have quite a reflex to the name Bill Gates
[12:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what the hell is bill gates doin in a linux chat room O_o
[12:18] <robotgee3> i think Billy boy likes ubuntu!
[12:18] <ozan_smirnoff> ChurcH_of_FoamY: be nice to little boys :)
[12:19] <lindsey> DaZjorz, I am going to reset for full file name.
[12:19] <no_gatez_fan> maybe he figured it out
[12:19] <eruin> Gnobody free software sex goes something like this: mount /dev/mounter /media/bush ; fsck ; unzip thestuff.zip ; fsck ; umount /media/bush ; slocate pants
[12:19] <eruin> and I had JUST gotten over "mount"...
[12:22] <DaZjorz> Ozan: Talk for yourself.
[12:22] <TokenBad> anyone know why azureus will not let me download a file to my mounted drive when I can download from website to mounted drive?
[12:23] <DaZjorz> erm
[12:23] <DaZjorz> what error does it give
[12:23] <BillGates> :)
[12:23] <BillGates> microsoft is going open source
[12:23] <DaZjorz> BillGates: Please, PLEASE change your name into Anti-BillGates
[12:23] <BillGates> you heard it now
[12:23] <DaZjorz> because
[12:23] <DaZjorz> Linux is like a tent. No windows, No gates, No bills and a lot of bugs
[12:23] <lindsey> For everyone concerned it works. Thanks for all your help everybody. :)
[12:23] <BillGates> everyone LOVES bill gates
[12:24] <robotgee2> BillGates is a troll!
[12:24] <BillGates> lol
[12:24] <DaZjorz> Good Lindsey :)
[12:24] <BillGates> why ty sir
[12:24] <DaZjorz> I want admin powers
[12:24] <DaZjorz> then i can kick him xP
[12:24] <BillGates> i dont even like windows....
[12:24] <BillGates> wow all this hate from a name
[12:25] <DaZjorz> LOL
[12:25] <Bols> ahah
[12:25] <DaZjorz> i just wanted to type /me Kicking failed.
[12:25] <DaZjorz> ^^
[12:25] <robotgee_> lol
[12:25] <DaZjorz> ;-D haha
[12:25] <DaZjorz> NOOOOO
[12:25] <DaZjorz> MICROSOFT
[12:26] <Microsoftt> :)
[12:26] <DaZjorz> KEEP YOUR BLOODY HANDS OFF LINUX
[12:26] <Microsoftt> no could get microsoft...
[12:26] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[12:26] <robotgee_> the death star arrives
[12:26] <DaZjorz> ;-(
[12:26] <Burgundavia> DaZjorz, please keep if on topic and please stop spamming
[12:26] <Microsoftt> all your base belongs to me!!
[12:26] <TokenBad> operation not permitted. setlength fails
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i always wanted to kill bill gates so umm.....
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> where do you live?
[12:26] <DaZjorz> the death star was already here..... and now he's firing :'(
[12:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> muhahahahahaha
[12:26] <DaZjorz> sorry, i'll be on topic
[12:27] <DaZjorz> sorry Burgundavia
[12:27] <robotgee_> is it possible to ban specific nicks :)
[12:27] <DaZjorz> If you own the server
[12:27] <Burgundavia> DaZjorz, np
[12:27] <TokenBad> DaZjorz, operation not permitted. setlength fails
[12:27] <dam> cann anyone recommend some good fax software for ubuntu? external modem. tested and worked on knoppix
[12:27] <DaZjorz> ...I'm gonna host an IRC server ;-D
[12:27] <TokenBad> thats the error it gives
[12:27] <DaZjorz> Dam: Let me search on google...
[12:27] <zenlunatic> are there any free software mp3 players for windows?
[12:27] <DaZjorz> Dam: It seems there is some "Linux Fax Server"
[12:28] <DaZjorz> Dam: I think you want a client...
[12:28] <dam> DaZjorz, i'd rather a personal opinion from a person, not a google
[12:28] <ompaul> dam, what software did you use on knoppix? it most likely is available for Knoppix?
[12:28] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: u mean like winamp?
[12:28] <ompaul> s/Knoppix/Ubuntu
[12:28] <DaZjorz> Zenlunatic: Why are you asking this in a Linux channel?
[12:28] <dam> dial-cfg or something
[12:28] <DaZjorz> Dam: I don't know fax programs, but I want to help, so I search google for a good one
[12:28] <DaZjorz> Google is almighty
[12:29] <zenlunatic> DaZjorz, my windows using friend needs a mp3 program and i cannot recommed a non-free software
[12:29] <DaZjorz> Ah
[12:29] <DaZjorz> right
[12:29] <DaZjorz> lol
[12:29] <dam> DaZjorz, OK,
[12:29] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[12:29] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, do you know what free sfotware is
[12:29] <DaZjorz> I like to use 'open-source' and not 'free'
[12:29] <dam> zenlunatic, cooplayer is free for winX
[12:29] <DaZjorz> free sounds like "i say its no cost, but after all you gotta pay though"
[12:29] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: free as in beer!
[12:29] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[12:30] <FatPenguin> convert the poor bastard zenlunatic
[12:30] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[12:30] <DaZjorz> lool
[12:30] <ompaul> dam,  efax-gtk might be up your street
[12:30] <robotgee_> lol
[12:30] <DaZjorz> Zenlunatic: I think you should take some MP3 converter thats shareware
[12:30] <DaZjorz> and that can also play MP3's
[12:30] <DaZjorz> l-D
[12:30] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[12:31] <ompaul> zenlunatic, you really should try Ubuntu it can do so much for you that you will not want to turn that thing you use now
[12:31] <zenlunatic> free as in freedom!
[12:31] <DaZjorz> Nvm. I'm really thinking to delete Windows from my own computer.
[12:31] <zenlunatic> ompaul, im on ubuntu
[12:31] <DaZjorz> Though then I can't play games anymore.
[12:31] <DaZjorz> Not much, i mean
[12:31] <zenlunatic> omaru, i was refering to my friend
[12:31] <FatPenguin> you know beer isnt free....
[12:31] <DaZjorz> like San Andreas
[12:31] <robotgee_> does everyone know of the Free as in Speech Beer?
[12:31] <DaZjorz> thats the good thing on Windows
[12:31] <DaZjorz> games like GTA: San Andreas
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> DaZjorz : i havent had windows in years, tho using windows to convert ppt to jpg is usefull..
[12:31] <zenlunatic> omaru, i haven't used windows on computers i own for years
[12:31] <aru> DaZjorz: get an xbox for that
[12:32] <DaZjorz> i'd rather use Windows then pay 200 euros :\
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> but other than that there is no use in windows
[12:32] <robotgee_> http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=70
[12:32] <highvoltage> i'd rather pay 10 000 euros than to use windows
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> 200 for what?
[12:32] <zenlunatic> lsuactiafner, the issue shouldn't be about use. it should be about freedom!
[12:32] <highvoltage> (not that i have 10 000 euros)
[12:32] <DaZjorz> Highvoltage
[12:32] <DaZjorz> if you pay me 500 euros
[12:33] <DaZjorz> then I will buy an X-box and remove Windows from my computer forever
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> if you pay me 100 euro i would use windows for a week
[12:33] <DaZjorz> LOL
[12:33] <ompaul> FatPenguin, I have a recipe for beer http://www.valdyas.org/andal/peoples_and_places/food/kvass.html
[12:33] <mikee> hello ppl
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> heh i need money
[12:33] <DaZjorz> hello Mikee
[12:33] <ompaul> FatPenguin, and the souce for Linux :)
[12:33] <mikee> can anyone help a tottaly noob ?
[12:33] <poningru> mikee: whats up?
[12:33] <DaZjorz> we're currently doing a discussion about how much money everyone wants to (not) use Windows for a while
[12:33] <mikee> i rather that then return to windowz :((
[12:33] <zenlunatic> mikee, im sorry no one can help you
[12:33] <DaZjorz> Ofcourse, Mikee
[12:34] <DaZjorz> Whats the problem ?
[12:34] <DaZjorz> Zenlunatic: Talk for yourself xP
[12:34] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, ibook here
[12:34] <mikee> ok i'm trying to inst valknut
[12:34] <NuffSed> does anyone know of a GUI-version of deborphan? or is there a way to make synaptic uninstall dependencies that are not in use anymore?
[12:34] <DaZjorz> Valknut...
[12:34] <mikee> big pbs with .rpm's
[12:34] <mikee> :((
[12:34] <zenlunatic> DaZjorz, its a stupid question
[12:34] <zenlunatic> DaZjorz, any human being is capable of helping there neighbor
[12:34] <DaZjorz> Zenlunatic: There are no stupid questions
[12:34] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: powerbook
[12:34] <DaZjorz> only questions that are easy to answer
[12:34] <DaZjorz> xP
[12:35] <DaZjorz> Mikee: Whats the problem with the RPM ?
[12:35] <FatPenguin> ompaul,  I see. never understood that "free as beer" thing.
[12:35] <mikee> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
[12:35] <mikee> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
[12:35] <DaZjorz> Does it give an error?
[12:35] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, cool do you know the code to get the mouse button emulation to work?
[12:35] <DaZjorz> Ermm Mikee
[12:35] <DaZjorz> does this work
[12:35] <jcarr> hey... what is the default root password for a new ubuntu install? It never prompted me to enter one during install :(
[12:35] <DaZjorz> apt-get install valknut
[12:35] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, not echo /proc code but xmodmap
[12:35] <jcarr> I need to log in as root
[12:35] <mikee> i'll try now
[12:35] <TokenBad> DaZjorz, I found out why azureus wouldn't let me save to mounted drive
[12:35] <zenlunatic> robotgee_,  im trying to get the same effect on BSD
[12:35] <aru> jcarr: ubuntu doesn't use root, use sudo
[12:35] <DaZjorz> And ?
[12:35] <ompaul> FatPenguin, you might say it is freedom to do the business
[12:36] <zenlunatic> robotgee_,  but i don't know the code
[12:36] <poningru> DaZjorz: its not in the universe
[12:36] <DaZjorz> Mikee are you logged in as Root ?
[12:36] <jcarr> aru, I need to do alot of stuff though
[12:36] <poningru> or multiverse
[12:36] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: mouse emulation??
[12:36] <TokenBad> I had to turn on incremental file creation
[12:36] <aru> then go to applications > System tools > root terminal
[12:36] <TokenBad> in azureus
[12:36] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, do you have external mouse on your powerbook?
[12:36] <mikee>  apt-get install valknut
[12:36] <ompaul> jcarr, sudo -s will give you a root prompt if you really need one
[12:36] <jcarr> how can DaZjorz ask mikee if he is logged in as root if Ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root?
[12:36] <DaZjorz> Aru: Ubuntu uses su to become root, but there is a root for sure
[12:36] <TokenBad> for it to save to a fat32 drive
[12:36] <mikee> yes i'm root allright
[12:36] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: yeah...and also keyboard
[12:36] <DaZjorz> TokenBad: Ah right :)
[12:37] <mikee> E: Couldn't find package valknut
[12:37] <DaZjorz> jcarr: There is always a command like su :/
[12:37] <TokenBad> thanks for help though
[12:37] <DaZjorz> Mikee: RPM error about the package ?
[12:37] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, oh well i guess you don't know then. i dond't use external mouse i use f11 and f12 for second and third mouse clicks, respectively
[12:37] <tfort>  gahhhhhhhh, once again, WoW freezes on install] 
[12:37] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: i do that too
[12:37] <DaZjorz> Mikee: I'll try to see if I have the same problem. Please wait a sec. I'll start the Live CD in VMWare.
[12:37] <jcarr> DaZjorz, I tried to su to root
[12:37] <DaZjorz> jcarr And ?
[12:37] <jcarr> it prompts me for a password
[12:37] <DaZjorz> Ofcourse it does
[12:38] <jcarr> which is always rejected
[12:38] <DaZjorz> ermm
[12:38] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, do you know the code to enable it? i know its automatic in hoary but i need to know the code
[12:38] <jcarr> the install never let me enter a root pasword!
[12:38] <ompaul> mikee, you should try the debian one it is nearest ubuntu if you are really going to do that
[12:38] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: one sec...
[12:38] <ompaul> jcarr, the password is the password for jcarr
[12:38] <DaZjorz> LOL
[12:38] <zenlunatic> robotgee_, sure msg me when you get back so we can stop flooding the channel
[12:38] <DaZjorz> jcarr, only 'expert' installations have that question
[12:38] <jcarr> omaru, I tried that... didn't work... but does if I use sudo :(
[12:38] <jcarr> ah well
[12:38] <DaZjorz> its really a bad idea
[12:38] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: okie :)
[12:39] <DaZjorz> they should always include the question in the normal installation
[12:39] <mikee> well..if i'm 2 stupid for that please give me an alternativ for a dc sharing application
[12:39] <mikee> pls
[12:39] <linukso> jcarr: if you want to change the root password you must run "sudo passwd root"
[12:39] <DaZjorz> Mikee: What RPM did you download actually ?
[12:40] <knowledge_> heyy guys....how long should 'sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source' take to complete?
[12:40] <chaps0063> hi, I'm trying to setup partitions.  I currently have NTFS, when I create /boot, swaparea, /, I cannot create /home, the rest of the space is tagged as unusable?
[12:40] <mikee> there were 2 on the srver
[12:40] <mikee> some libs
[12:40] <mikee> and the valknut rpm
[12:40] <DaZjorz> erm Mikee
[12:40] <DaZjorz> when you go to the Stable download...
[12:40] <DaZjorz> it asks you for the OS
[12:40] <DaZjorz> what did you fill in
[12:40] <mikee> debian
[12:40] <mikee> right?
[12:40] <DaZjorz> Yup.
[12:40] <DaZjorz> erm
[12:40] <DaZjorz> let me test ...
[12:40] <knowledge_> anyone know?
[12:40] <DaZjorz> booting the live cd...
[12:40] <Virtuall[v16] > ...i don't get it. what do i have to do to start translating? Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Danko Alexeyev
[12:41] <linukso> mikee: try "sudo aptitude install dcgui"
[12:41] <ompaul> mikee why did not you not do the debian one, a close relative of ubuntu, not an rpm which is completely alien to the structure of Ubuntu (excuse the pun those of you who got it)
[12:41] <poningru> knowledge_: a freaking long time
[12:41] <DaZjorz> Erm;...
[12:41] <poningru> depending on your computer speed
[12:41] <knowledge_> seems like it
[12:41] <knowledge_> wow...1.6 P4
[12:41] <DaZjorz> ompaul He chose debian
[12:41] <poningru> heh thats not so fast
[12:41] <knowledge_> am I recompiling the kernel?
[12:41] <ompaul> DaZjorz, eariler he said rpm
[12:41] <mikee> it's going smooth so far
[12:41] <poningru> not really
[12:41] <linukso> mikee: dcgui is available through apt
[12:41] <mikee> ok all done
[12:41] <knowledge_> oh....I wanted to do it for i686
[12:42] <DaZjorz> OK...
[12:42] <poningru> knowledge_: you can just use a precompiled package
[12:42] <poningru> from synaptic
[12:42] <poningru> for P4
[12:42] <DaZjorz>  Well I don't know much programs for Linux actually. Only the programs I use myself, thats mainly server programs.
[12:42] <poningru> what program are you looking for>
[12:42] <poningru> ?
[12:42] <DaZjorz> Though I am gonna install Linux on my own computer.
[12:42] <knowledge_> yeah, but I need that patch in there for my alps glidepoint
[12:42] <DaZjorz> but though
[12:42] <DaZjorz> the only thing that keeps me from installing Linux on my own pc
[12:43] <tfort> im getting so frustrated with ubuntu now with cedega that i might just frag this install and go back to gentoo
[12:43] <DaZjorz> is games like GTA: San Andreas....
[12:43] <DaZjorz> Whats the problem tfort
[12:43] <aru> get an xbox
[12:43] <raven3x7> dcgui-qt=valknut
[12:43] <DaZjorz> Aru: I already said, too expensive
[12:43] <DaZjorz> Tfort
[12:43] <tfort> DaZjorz, WoW install keeps freezing during install in Cedega 4.4
[12:43] <knowledge_> I like Ubuntu....then again my only other distro i used was mandrake
[12:43] <ompaul> if you want to know what stuff is installed you might consider 'apt-cache show ubuntu-base' and 'apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop' to see what is in a base system
[12:43] <DaZjorz> Errm
[12:43] <aru> thats right, you did talk about that once before...
[12:43] <knowledge_> which (Imo) blows
[12:44] <tfort> worked fine on gentoo when isinstalled it, but now i can never get it to install
[12:44] <DaZjorz> check your logs in /var/log/
[12:44] <DaZjorz> does it give any errors ?
[12:44] <DaZjorz> Also, are things like graphical engines on ?
[12:44] <DaZjorz> etc.
[12:44] <DaZjorz> 3D support ?
[12:44] <DaZjorz> I repeat, i didnt do much with home-based linux...
[12:44] <DaZjorz> only server-based. But i'm gonna change that
[12:44] <tfort> DaZjorz, which log errors would i be looking for
[12:45] <mikee> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:45] <mikee>  :((((
[12:45] <DaZjorz> Anything
[12:45] <DaZjorz> any error
[12:45] <tfort> i dont see any cedega and i dont see any point2play
[12:45] <aru> could you please use sentences?
[12:45] <mikee> is occured durring sudo aptitude install dcgui
[12:45] <tfort> there's syslog and base-config but that's about it
[12:45] <DaZjorz> you can paste errors in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:45] <DaZjorz> Sorry, Aru.
[12:45] <AlbanianLord> cedega
[12:46] <AlbanianLord> ?
[12:46] <AlbanianLord> lol
[12:46] <DaZjorz> But every time after typing something, something else pops into my mind to type.
[12:46] <tfort> AlbanianLord, yes, what?
[12:46] <AlbanianLord> i always used wine
[12:46] <DaZjorz> tfort,.. Do other 3D games work ?
[12:46] <AlbanianLord> and it worked
[12:46] <tfort> DaZjorz
[12:46] <tfort> haven't tried
[12:46] <tfort> just installed 2 days ago
[12:46] <tfort> AlbanianLord, for WoW?
[12:46] <DaZjorz> You should, actually...
[12:46] <DaZjorz> then you know if the problem is there
[12:46] <DaZjorz> AlbianLord
[12:47] <DaZjorz> WINE doesn't support 3d / directx things, does it
[12:47] <AlbanianLord> no
[12:47] <DaZjorz> i surely can't run GTA: San Andreas in a window on linux :'(
[12:47] <tfort> no, it doesn't that's why you use cedega
[12:47] <tfort> for d3d emu
[12:47] <AlbanianLord> but i can make it work
[12:47] <DaZjorz> Cedega.
[12:47] <DaZjorz> Google is almighty ^^
[12:47] <AlbanianLord> did you install cedega off a debian package or from source
[12:47] <AlbanianLord> ?
[12:47] <robotgee_> zenlunatic: i've pm'd u!
[12:48] <DaZjorz> Cedega...oo this might just be the reason for me to install Linux..
[12:48] <DaZjorz> any bad experiences with Cedega here ?
[12:48] <imaek> For some reason, neither K3b nor GnomeBaker will sense that there is a blank CD in my CD drive, but I can read data disks, play DVDs, and listen to music through it
[12:48] <tfort> DaZjorz, mine, hehe
[12:49] <DaZjorz> Wtf
[12:49] <DaZjorz> cedega costs money, ?
[12:49] <knowledge_> Ubuntu can be used for web server right?
[12:49] <graabein> what you got, baby i want it
[12:49] <tfort> $5 a month
[12:49] <DaZjorz> jeez
[12:49] <DaZjorz> only for a porter..
[12:49] <poningru> DaZjorz: you do know there is Wine?
[12:49] <DaZjorz> Nvm. I'll stick with Windows then.
[12:49] <DaZjorz> I know, Poningru
[12:49] <tfort> poningru, it doesn't do d3d
[12:49] <DaZjorz> but it doesn't support DirectX nor any 3D things
[12:49] <poningru> DaZjorz: why not do a dual boot?
[12:50] <poningru> thats what I do
[12:50] <DaZjorz> I can,.. but then, after a while, i can't stop myself from booting Windows every time :\
[12:50] <poningru> dual boot for games
[12:50] <tfort> poningru, because that's completely contrary tot he whole point of me wanting a linux system
[12:50] <poningru> whats the point?
[12:50] <poningru> functionality right?
[12:50] <ompaul> knowledge_, yes
[12:50] <DaZjorz> not only that
[12:50] <DaZjorz> the point is
[12:50] <poningru> you use the products that are best suited to that function
[12:50] <DaZjorz> that Linux is a great OS
[12:50] <DaZjorz> its faster etc.
[12:51] <tfort> i like an automated system that i dont have to reboot, it can stay up all the time, and at the same time, runs very effeciently and smoothly
[12:51] <DaZjorz> not only that
[12:51] <tfort> windows does not
[12:51] <DaZjorz> Exactly
[12:51] <DaZjorz> Tfort (Y)
[12:51] <tfort> and with linux, you get much better performance on WoW and other d3d games
[12:51] <airmikey> whats the command to open my file browser with the location bar
[12:51] <DaZjorz> erm Airmikey
[12:51] <DaZjorz> what file browser ?
[12:52] <gobbolino> hi
[12:52] <DaZjorz> Normally its just the first argument
[12:52] <DaZjorz> Hi gobbolino
[12:52] <gobbolino> i ahve a small problem
[12:52] <gobbolino> have
[12:52] <poningru> so the reason you dont wanna dual boot is?
[12:52] <DaZjorz> OK
[12:52] <DaZjorz> I would like to dual boot
[12:52] <gobbolino> i have a notebook widescreen
[12:53] <DaZjorz> and i'm gonna set it up once i get back from vacation
[12:53] <DaZjorz> Yes ?
[12:53] <ompaul> airmikey, Places -> Home Folder
[12:53] <DaZjorz> ^^
[12:53] <DaZjorz> I'm really thinking of dual booting Windows / Linux
[12:53] <DaZjorz> but i'm afraid i'm gonna start Windows every time ...
[12:54] <DaZjorz> because i can't fast-switch between windows and linux
[12:54] <DaZjorz> it takes a restart
[12:54] <DaZjorz> which is another 2 minutes
[12:54] <poningru> DaZjorz: you can hibernate
[12:54] <poningru> both
[12:54] <poningru> so more like 20 secs
[12:54] <gobbolino> with 1280x800 resolution (see on Windows)... ubuntu seem to have the same resolution but it distorce image...
[12:54] <airmikey> yeah for my home folder
[12:54] <DaZjorz> Poningru: I use USB devices
[12:54] <ompaul> poningru, I don't and have not since late 1994 when I choose to start with the command line :)
[12:54] <DaZjorz> as keyboard, mouse
[12:55] <DaZjorz> if I hibernate
[12:55] <tfort> gobbolino, it should be 1280x1024
[12:55] <DaZjorz> then they won't be activated in Windows when I boot
[12:55] <DaZjorz> Gobbolino
[12:55] <DaZjorz> 1280x800 sucks
[12:55] <DaZjorz> i'm using 1280x1024 because its well
[12:56] <gobbolino> and in how i can use that?
[12:56] <DaZjorz> handy
[12:56] <DaZjorz> Change your resolution to 1280x1024
[12:56] <tfort> DaZjorz, it's also the right frigin' resolution
[12:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you all have to check this out is awsome
[12:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://www.deathclock.com/
[12:56] <DaZjorz> k
[12:56] <DaZjorz> LOL
[12:57] <knowledge_> you could hibernate linux?....on a laptop?
[12:57] <jcarr> what's the package that just installs the latest kde, all of it?
[12:57] <gobbolino> but ubuntu resolution preference give me only 1024x768!!!!!
[12:57] <robotgee_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: read the comments!!
[12:57] <linukso> jcarr: kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <benplaut> knowledge_: what laptop? in linux, it's called suspend-to-disk, BTW
[12:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ?
[12:57] <knowledge_> Dell Inspiron 8200
[12:57] <jcarr> gobbolino, live with it... I get a 640x480 screen that is 50% the size of the monitor, centered
[12:57] <jcarr> Dell Inspiron 1100
[12:57] <jcarr> cuz I'm a poor bastard
[12:57] <robotgee_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or the letters on deatch clock.
[12:57] <jcarr> the 845patch seems not to work in ubuntu
[12:58] <knowledge_> oh, I thought it actually shuts down and saves everything
[12:58] <DaZjorz> gobbolino: then I think you should do the highest but most comfortable to see
[12:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[12:58] <robotgee_> Linux, cause we shouldn't have to compromise
[12:58] <DaZjorz> !! hibernate mode on windows doesnt work if you use keyboard and/or mouse as USB device
[12:58] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:58] <benplaut> knowledge_: it saves the RAM image to the disk, and then restores it when it booted back up
[12:58] <tfort> Your Personal Day of Death is...  Wednesday, December 11, 2019
[12:58] <tfort> damn
[12:58] <DaZjorz> because when you resume, they won't be activated
[12:58] <DaZjorz> LOL
[12:58] <to|m> why is ma CUI of XMMS so grey, big sonts, and ugly gtk1 style, where could I set it right?
[12:58] <gobbolino> yes i want increase resolution but how can i make it?
[12:59] <knowledge_> benplaut, so it actually shuts down? meaning doesn't run the battery down?
[12:59] <benplaut> knowledge_: yeah
[12:59] <to|m> +GUI
[12:59] <knowledge_> no kidding
[12:59] <DaZjorz> tfort: *what do you do if you hear that you have only 14 years to live anymore...*
[12:59] <tfort> DaZjorz, time to rob some banks
[12:59] <knowledge_> well I'm guessing that "hibernate the computer" in the logout menu is the same thing
[12:59] <DaZjorz> Tfort: I agree ^^
[12:59] <tfort> can someone check if transgaming.org is up right now?
[12:59] <poningru> can someone go to www.freeculture.org and see if its down?
[12:59] <jcarr> anyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?
[12:59] <benplaut> knowledge_: you can also suspend-to-ram (standbye), which supplies only enough power to keep the RAM image from wiping clean
[12:59] <benplaut> yup, same thing
[12:59] <DaZjorz> tfort: No, i don't actually, cuz my day of death is..
[01:00] <gobbolino> Daz where i can change resolution?
[01:00] <knowledge_> battery on my laptop is no good
[01:00] <Corvus> does anyone has problems with its dvd unit ? input/output errors
[01:00] <jcarr> anyone here ever install ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1100?
[01:00] <knowledge_> I wish I could use that
[01:00] <jasoncohen> tfort, i can ping transgaming.org but the site isn't coming up
[01:00] <robotgee_> knowledge_: same here...it's more like a desktop now
[01:00] <tfort> jasoncohen, yea thanks, same for me, this is weird, i just want to download the damn thing
[01:00] <jcarr> Normally, I need to run 845patch to correct the faulty bios, but it aint working in Ubuntu
[01:00] <jcarr> this is a first
[01:00] <knowledge_> jcarr, do you ever have a problem with closing your screen and seeing the desktop all messed up when you open it
[01:00] <DaZjorz> tfirt: it is...
[01:01] <jcarr> it worked on FC, Debian, and Slackware?
[01:01] <linukso> poningru: freeculture.org is up and running...
[01:01] <jcarr> knowledge_, YES!! :(
[01:01] <knowledge_> robotgee_, I'm in the club with you
[01:01] <Corvus> or are the benq 1640 dvd unit's known to have problems on ubuntu/linux ?
[01:01] <knowledge_> jcarr, it cuts it in like half right?
[01:01] <DaZjorz> Friday, June 19, 2065
[01:01] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[01:01] <poningru> ok thanks dude
[01:01] <DaZjorz> i have another 60 years to live
[01:01] <jcarr> knowledge_, I need to use 845patch to get the screen full screen, and it aint working right in ubuntu (runs, but doesnt fix it)
[01:01] <jcarr> knowledge_, yeah
[01:01] <DaZjorz> LOL
[01:01] <robotgee_> knowledge_: it sucks, and a new battery is > 100$
[01:01] <jcarr> the top half will be all scrambled
[01:01] <jcarr> :(
[01:01] <knowledge_> robotgee_, you can try ebay
[01:01] <jcarr> I wish linux would just work
[01:02] <jcarr> no bullshit to deal with, just work :)
[01:02] <knowledge_> or crack the battery open and if you're lucky enough you can find the cells and replace them
[01:02] <tfort> damnit why is transgaming down
[01:02] <knowledge_> jcarr, there's no fix for it?
[01:02] <robotgee_> jcarr: ubuntu is the closest to "It just works" linux
[01:02] <DaZjorz> tfort: nobody bought their produc
[01:02] <DaZjorz> +t
[01:02] <knowledge_> I'd agree with robotgee_
[01:02] <DaZjorz> tfort: stupid guys should've made it open-source and asked for donations
[01:02] <DaZjorz> they would've earned more
[01:02] <knowledge_> I really really like ubuntu
[01:02] <jcarr> knowledge_, for the close laptop scramble, or the 50% of the screen problem?
[01:02] <DaZjorz> me too
[01:03] <robotgee_> knowledge_: what's with cracking open the battery??
[01:03] <jcarr> the 50% of the screen resolution is the suckiest :9
[01:03] <knowledge_> I mean I'm not a Linux guru...and I suck at command line...and between mandrake and ubuntu
[01:03] <knowledge_> I like ubuntu
[01:03] <tfort> knowledge_, eh, i definately liked portage more than debian's apt-get
[01:03] <robotgee_> knowledge_: yeah.
[01:03] <jcarr> well, I'm a long time debian user
[01:03] <DaZjorz> Guys
[01:03] <knowledge_> jcarr, the 50%
[01:03] <concept10> Any thunderbird users here that use RSS feeds?
[01:03] <jcarr> I just install Ubuntu because I didnt have time to reinstall debian
[01:04] <DaZjorz> do you think people will hear me downstairs when I put a cd in my loud CD-player ?
[01:04] <robotgee_> tfort: except for the fact that it would take 5 days to cimpile something!
[01:04] <jcarr> knowledge_, 845patch fixes it... but it doesnt seem to work for me in Ubuntu so far :/
[01:04] <gobbolino> sorry someone can help me to increse resolution of my screen?
[01:04] <robotgee_> DaZjorz: go ahead, blast away!
[01:04] <jcarr> I may need to change the driver X is using
[01:04] <DaZjorz> robotgee_ i dont want anyone to hear me
[01:04] <knowledge_> robotgee_, if the battery isn't too old (Still produced) you can split the casing apart and you'll find nothing more than what looks like AA cells in series, you can buy them from on line and replace them
[01:04] <DaZjorz> xP
[01:04] <DaZjorz> i mean, the cd player in my own PC
[01:04] <tfort> robotgee_, it wasn't that bad
[01:04] <chaps0063> does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?
[01:04] <DaZjorz> i would like to set up dual partitioning now
[01:04] <robotgee_> knowledge_: neat..will take a look into that
[01:05] <knowledge_> MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new battery
[01:05] <DaZjorz> i'd like to set up dual partitioning now but i think my cd-player is too loud
[01:05] <jcarr> man.. the season premiere of Stargate SG1 kinda sucked
[01:05] <DaZjorz> it produces too much sound
[01:05] <robotgee_> tfort: i tried gentoo on a sparc, it took abt 2 days to compile X :)
[01:05] <knowledge_> BUT that's only if you're inclined to doing that....soldering, working with ribbon cables
[01:05] <tfort> jcarr, welcome to the series
[01:05] <DaZjorz> ;-D
[01:05] <DaZjorz> Damn i'm bored
[01:05] <tfort> robotgee_, that's insane it only takes me 45 min
[01:05] <jcarr> tfort, eh?
[01:05] <DaZjorz> someone tell me what to do with my linux box...
[01:05] <chaps0063> DaZjorz: use it.
[01:05] <knowledge_> mann, I don't get this whole patching thing....the only way I'm doing it right now is because there's a how to
[01:05] <tfort> jcarr, after the first 1 maybe 2 seasons, that show got really lame
[01:06] <knowledge_> I have NO clue as to what the commands do
[01:06] <DaZjorz> goddammit
[01:06] <jcarr> tfort, eh!? I thought season 6 and 7 were the best
[01:06] <DaZjorz> my stupid hosting provider
[01:06] <airmikey> whats the command to open home browser
[01:06] <jcarr> I think it's dying now though
[01:06] <DaZjorz> i asked them to change my NS
[01:06] <tfort>  jcarr it needs to be replaced with more episodes of Firefly
[01:06] <chaps0063> DaZjorz: who does your hosting?
[01:06] <linukso> jcarr: did you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[01:06] <DaZjorz> but now they ask me Why? You can change your DNS settings on our own MCS -.-
[01:06] <robotgee_> tfort: i think i went a bit overboard on the optmization flags, and it was only a 200 mhz box
[01:07] <tfort> robotgee_, to be honest, you can just use the gen-kernel and you won't see THAT big a difference
[01:07] <DaZjorz> Dammit, my hosting provider refuses to change the domains NS servers to my own server :\
[01:07] <jcarr> tfort, I think they should just end the series, especially with O'Neill gone from the show
[01:07] <jcarr> I mean, they could have went out solid at the end of season 8
[01:07] <tfort> jcarr, yea
[01:08] <jcarr> The jaffa are free with Teal'c as the leader of the new Jaffa Nation, the go'loud have been defeated, the replicators are defeated, etc
[01:08] <mitch528> can anyone help me set up a ftp server for ubuntu?
[01:08] <robotgee_> tfort:  i don't want to get into gentoo anymore :)
[01:08] <zaudragon> does Ubuntu support Airport cards?
[01:08] <robotgee_> mitch528: ur back!
[01:08] <mitch528> yea
[01:08] <tfort> robotgee_ you can do alot more with it / have a lot more access to breaking tech on it, than on any other system
[01:08] <asimismo> I've got an Athlon and tried to switch to k7. Should it require any more than a Synaptic install? I'm getting a kernel panic after reboot...
[01:08] <jcarr> now we get to enjoy Stargate/Farscape :|
[01:08] <airmikey> when i type nautilus i get the browser without the location bar...how do i get the location bar to come up
[01:08] <robotgee_> zaudragon: hey, are u the same guy on the adium team?
[01:09] <zaudragon> robotgee_: I'm not on the team but I am pretty into Adium :D
[01:09] <robotgee_> zaudragon: nope, no airport express support...older orinoco cards only
[01:09] <zaudragon> robotgee_: express?
[01:09] <zaudragon> robotgee_: do you mean extreme?
[01:09] <robotgee_> zaudragon: yeah, sorry
[01:09] <zaudragon> well, I get the pint then; no Airport :D
[01:10] <robotgee_> tfort: true, but after i quit using the mac, ubuntu just works!
[01:10] <airmikey> well
[01:10] <knowledge_> wow...that command is STILL doing
[01:11] <knowledge_> that's amazing
[01:11] <DaZjorz> ?
[01:11] <aru> is there anything for playing wmv files?
[01:11] <DaZjorz> mpg123
[01:11] <chaps0063> does anyone use napster and have the music downloaded from there playing and working on a non-windows box?
[01:11] <DaZjorz> i thought it worked
[01:11] <DaZjorz> no, doesnt suport wmvfile
[01:12] <DaZjorz>                  !!! I recommend everyone to FIRST LOOK UP YOUR QUESTIONS AT GOOGLE!!!!!
[01:12] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:12] <zaudragon> well thanks robotgee_
[01:12] <tfort> anyone know where the tmp directory is for firefox?
[01:12] <DaZjorz> i can't keep saying that enough
[01:13] <knowledge_> I do....google sucks
[01:13] <knowledge_> well it doesn't suck
[01:13] <knowledge_> but it's very generic
[01:13] <knowledge_> for me anyhow
[01:13] <DaZjorz> knowledge = ??
[01:13] <poningru> tfort: do you mean the cache?
[01:13] <tfort> .. i suppose
[01:13] <poningru> its in your profile folder
[01:13] <tfort> i believe its something */tmp
[01:13] <knowledge_> I seem to create problems for myself that no one has heard of before
[01:13] <Servo888> When ever I try to ./configure something I get a "lib/cpp" fails sanity check error... What's up with that?
[01:13] <tfort> but i dont know the whole directory extension
[01:13] <ompaul> !wmv
[01:13] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[01:13] <poningru> ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/Cache
[01:13] <poningru> thats where all of it is stored
[01:14] <DaZjorz> Servo888 try apt-get install gcc
[01:14] <DaZjorz> it'll give u some packages that are recommended
[01:14] <poningru> also you can check by about:cache in your url and pressing enter
[01:14] <DaZjorz> you can install them using apt-get too
[01:14] <Servo888> DaZjorz, already installed...
[01:15] <ompaul> Servo888, do this 'apt-get install build-essential'
[01:15] <crazy2k> I just installed Ubuntu but I have two problems: First, it doesn't let me change the resolution, it just gives me 640x480 as the only option available (and my card supports up to 1024x768). Second, I can't manage to connect to the Internet. The network configuration tool doesn't let me write my user and password.
[01:15] <jcarr> is there a cd burner provided by default with ubuntu?
[01:15] <DaZjorz> dont think so
[01:15] <jcarr> I have kde installing now, with k3b included, but just curious
[01:15] <jcarr> :(
[01:15] <jcarr> I need to update my bios it seems
[01:15] <DaZjorz> not sure
[01:15] <jcarr> that is what the problem was
[01:15] <DaZjorz> never tried
[01:15] <jcarr> it doesnt
[01:16] <DaZjorz> i love apt-get
[01:16] <crazy2k> Can someone give me a hand?
[01:16] <gm78> crazy2k, with what?
[01:16] <linukso> crazy2k: whats you video card? for network, try pppoeconf
[01:16] <crazy2k> It's an old 3dfx Voodoo 3
[01:16] <ompaul> jcarr, nautilus does burn, however I am a command line freak - cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/hd* random.iso where *  is the letter of the burning drive
[01:16] <gm78> crazy2k, what do u need help with?
[01:17] <knowledge_> sudo make-kpkg --us --uc --initrd --append_to_version "-5-386-alps" kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source <--takes how many minutes on a P4-m 1.6?
[01:17] <blacksky> Hey all, I'm following the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki, trying to install Flash. But its not working
[01:17] <crazy2k> gm78, scroll up please.
[01:18] <Corvus> has anyone a benq 1640 ?
[01:18] <blacksky> when I do an "apt-get update", the hoary-extras sources are being ignored :(
[01:18] <DaZjorz> blacksky i had that too
[01:18] <ompaul> blacksky, what seems to be the issue
[01:18] <DaZjorz> comment out your CD
[01:18] <ltk1608> 
[01:18] <ltk1608> 
[01:18] <DaZjorz> just comment out the line that says something about your CD
[01:18] <ltk1608> 
[01:19] <gm78> crazy2k, doesnt work when u just entered the room
[01:19] <blacksky> Dazjorz: it is commented out
[01:19] <DaZjorz> wtf ?!
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: No double lines ?
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Where did you save the file
[01:19] <alberto__> Any know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?
[01:19] <crazy2k> It asks me for my root password. I haven't set one. The installer didn't ask for one. How can I set it?
[01:19] <ltk1608> 
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: and what lines are available
[01:20] <blacksky> the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <ompaul> blacksky, you did a apt-get update after you added  multiverse to your system?
[01:20] <gm78> crazy2k, sudo passwd root  it will ask for a password, enter urs, then enter the new root password
[01:20] <crazy2k> Thanks.
[01:20] <bet0x> Any know how i can IMPORT my old dbx email database from Outlook espress to Evolution?
[01:20] <gm78> crazy2k, no prob.
[01:20] <linukso> crazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf
[01:20] <gm78> crazy2k, what r u having problems with in regard to ur display?
[01:20] <linukso> crazy2k: just use you user password!
[01:20] <crazy2k> Yeah. Hold on.
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Blacksky Good, can you paste it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <gm78> linukso, having a root passwd is a good idea anyways, ive had it where i couldnt log into my user account, it was a good thing i had the root password set
[01:21] <blacksky> DaZjorz: ok, 1 minute. Could you do the same?
[01:21] <linukso> crazy2k: sudo wants *your* password, not roots. The root passwd is disabled in ubuntu by default, but you can as gm78 said set it with sudo passwd root
[01:21] <crazy2k> It's loading the pppoeconf thing.
[01:21] <robotgee_> mitch528: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver
[01:22] <Will_> gm78: Surely if you can forget a user password, you can forget a root password?
[01:22] <crazy2k> gm78, it doesn't let me change my resolution to anything but 640x480. That is the problem.
[01:22] <gm78> Will_, didnt forget my user account, deleted my home directory
[01:22] <linukso> crazy2k: could you paste the "Device" section from xorg.conf
[01:22] <Will_> gm78: Noted
[01:22] <gm78> Will_, lol
[01:22] <crazy2k> Now, I should disconnect this computer in order to configure Internet on the other.
[01:22] <blacksky> DaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/643
[01:22] <crazy2k> Can you wait till I'm back?
[01:23] <DaZjorz> k
[01:23] <linukso> crazy2k: in pastebin.com
[01:23] <crazy2k> Thank you.
[01:23] <tfort> when i try to do a upgrade
[01:23] <tfort> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:23] <tfort>   mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[01:23] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Remove your double lines
[01:23] <tfort> i get this, any idea how to upgrade them?
[01:23] <blacksky> DaZjorz: eh? What are double lines?
[01:24] <DaZjorz> blacksky: Like 2 lines that are the same :/
[01:24] <linukso> tfort: sudo aptitude upgrade
[01:24] <tfort> linukso, still nothing
[01:25] <linukso> tfort: hmmm, try synaptic
[01:25] <blacksky> DaZjorz: I can't see any. There are lines for binaries, and lines for source, but they're not duplicates.
[01:25] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Standby
[01:25] <blacksky> or am i being thick!
[01:25] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Remove all double servers. hoary includes hoary-updates, i thought.
[01:26] <tfort> transgaming's site is down anyone have the point2play deb files?
[01:26] <chaps0063> how do I enable dma on my dvd drive?
[01:27] <arcanum> hi
[01:27] <DaZjorz> hi
[01:27] <tfort> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/mozgnome.xpt', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[01:27] <arcanum> has anyone solved the gnome hanging problem/
[01:27] <arcanum> googled it looks like there's no straight answer
[01:27] <robotgee_> what problem? :)
[01:27] <arcanum> well
[01:27] <arcanum> after the install
[01:27] <arcanum> it's all dandy
[01:27] <arcanum> do some updates
[01:27] <arcanum> and reboot
[01:27] <arcanum> gdm starts - then i login and gnome hangs
[01:28] <arcanum> i see mouse and background
[01:28] <arcanum> (the brown one)
[01:28] <blacksky> DaZjorz: Still getting Ign's. :/ I don't understand whats going on here. What causes a source to be ignored?
[01:28] <crazy2k> Ok. Internet is working now.
[01:28] <arcanum> it takes like 3-4 mins before it actually starts
[01:28] <crazy2k> What was it that you wanted me to paste?
[01:28] <crazy2k> I'm on the Ubuntu computer,
[01:29] <linukso> crazy2k: The "Device" section from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:29] <crazy2k> Ok.
[01:29] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Do you get an error msg
[01:29] <robotgee_> arcanum: nope...don't know anything abt that :(
[01:29] <arcanum> gr
[01:29] <arcanum> it's just annoying waiting 4 mins for gnome to start
[01:29] <arcanum> ;|
[01:29] <blacksky> DaZjorz: no, just "Ign:" at the start of some of the lines
[01:29] <arcanum> and there's no error messages
[01:30] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Try apt-get update and paste all output on the pastebin
[01:30] <robotgee_> arcanum: tried openbox? it's a great window manager, and works really fast in gnome
[01:31] <blacksky> DaZjorz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/644
[01:31] <arcanum> well
[01:31] <DaZjorz> k
[01:31] <arcanum> i decided to try ubuntu+gnome before i was running fedora+xfce
[01:31] <arcanum> worked great
[01:31] <crazy2k> linukso: http://pastebin.com/314709 Apparently everything's ok.
[01:32] <arcanum> but i guess i'm going to have to go back to fedora
[01:32] <arcanum> =\
[01:32] <robotgee_> which one?
[01:32] <arcanum> which sucks becuase ubuntu looks promising
[01:32] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Standby
[01:32] <arcanum> minus that gnome bug
[01:32] <arcanum> you know what i noticed/
[01:32] <arcanum> i decided to strace gnome-panel
[01:32] <knowledge_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/645
[01:32] <arcanum> it looks like it's trying to connect to localhost port
[01:32] <knowledge_> Can anyone explain that?
[01:32] <arcanum> to a localhost port
[01:32] <arcanum> rather
[01:33] <arcanum> maybe there's a connect() timeout
[01:33] <crazy2k> gm78: Could you read what I pasted?
[01:33] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: I thought the hit means that the file was downloaded correctly etc.
[01:33] <chaps0063> my music is really quiet..
[01:33] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: the IGN. Where does that stand for ?
[01:33] <blacksky> Ignored I presume.
[01:33] <chaps0063> how do I turn it up, the volume is max in xine..
[01:33] <blacksky> It seems to hit and ignore the same sources - which is weird.
[01:33] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: lol ofcourse . My bad. I'll send you my /etc/apt/sources.list.
[01:34] <blacksky> ta!
[01:34] <crazy2k> What should I do now?
[01:34] <knowledge_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/645 <---anyone?
[01:34] <gobbolino> hi again
[01:35] <blacksky> knowledge: erm, have you filled your hard disk?
[01:35] <linukso> crazy2k: hmm, what about the display section?
[01:35] <knowledge_> I sure would hope not
[01:35] <knowledge_> how can I check?
[01:35] <blacksky> df or df -h
[01:35] <DaZjorz> I commented it to the pastebin.
[01:35] <linukso> crazy2k: arg. Monitor section...
[01:35] <chaps0063> can someone help me get the volume to a normal level?
[01:36] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/646
[01:36] <blacksky> DaZjorzL Thanks - will try it!
[01:36] <zenlunatic> anyone know if links browser can do tabs?
[01:36] <gobbolino> someone use 855resolution?
[01:36] <arcanum> sigh
[01:37] <crazy2k> linukso: It's ok apparently. http://pastebin.com/314710
[01:37] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: No problem. Does it work ?
[01:38] <blacksky> DaZjorz: you don't have a hoary-extras source there?
[01:38] <linukso> crazy2k: ah, damn. I'm a bit slow... Getting late where I am. You must modify the Screen section
[01:38] <linukso> crazy2k: Just add the missing modes.
[01:38] <dapimp53> I currently have a dual boot and its using Grub1.5. How do I set wich OS is the defualt
[01:38] <DaZjorz> blacksky: Its included with the main things
[01:38] <blacksky> DaZjorz:I was wanting to install flash, Reak Player etc
[01:39] <DaZjorz> Blacksky I think all these things are included in the normal servers too...?
[01:39] <blacksky> DaZjorz: I was trying to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:39] <crazy2k> linukso: The problem is there are no missing modes. The 1024x768 option is there. But it's not shown when I want to change the resolution via the preferences.
[01:40] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Try to do a apt-get update
[01:40] <DaZjorz> then apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <DaZjorz> and after that, try to download what you wanted
[01:40] <DaZjorz> it should work
[01:41] <linukso> crazy2k: hmmm
[01:41] <crazy2k> linukso: I think this has happened to me before but I don't remember how I fixed it.
[01:41] <crazy2k> It was one of those goddam files.
[01:41] <linukso> crazy2k: all the simple solutions failed...
[01:42] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: And ?
[01:42] <blacksky> DaZjorz: nope: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/647
[01:42] <blacksky> that package is supposed to be in multiverse in the hoary-extras source
[01:42] <linukso> crazy2k: last resort: past the entire xorg-log (/var/log/xorg-something...)
[01:42] <TokenBad> what program for monitoring your bandwidth in ubuntu?
[01:42] <DaZjorz> blacksky: isn't "apt-get install flashplugin" working ?
[01:43] <dapimp53> Is there somewhere I can edit the Grub config or anything
[01:43] <tfort> bah to this.. back to gentoo i go
[01:43] <gm78> crazy2k, sorry, left the room
[01:43] <crazy2k> linukso: Sorry, I did not understand.
[01:43] <blacksky> DaZjorz: same message - not found
[01:44] <TokenBad> anyone?
[01:44] <crazy2k> gm78: It's ok. We haven't fixed the problem anyway. Scroll up if you want to.
[01:45] <dapimp53> Also I have a Toshiba Satellite Laptop with a Realteck audio. When I am in Ubuntu I dont have any audio. Any idea how I can make it work so I can hear stuff while I am in Ubuntu
[01:45] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Erm, Sorry, No idea then. Maybe add the servers now and retry it, and just ignore the IGN lines?
[01:45] <billytwowilly> best star wars parody ever: http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html
[01:45] <linukso> crazy2k: if you just paste the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin, then the answer must be somewhere in there...
[01:45] <DaZjorz> they must be ignored for some reason
[01:46] <crazy2k> linukso: Oh, ok. Hold on.
[01:46] <blacksky> DaZjorz: Ok, thanks for the help. I'm beginning to suspect that that wiki page is wrong/out of date.
[01:46] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: No problem.
[01:47] <blacksky> Maybe a better question is: Has anyone got flash working, and if so, how?
[01:47] <crazy2k> That's a lot of text. I don't know if I'm allowed to.
[01:47] <r0d> does ubuntu go out of their way to make kernel compiling hard
[01:48] <r0d> have never had so much trouble before...
[01:48] <DaZjorz> Blacksky: Use /me. People will read your question easier.
[01:48] <DaZjorz> like /me has a problem: (...)
[01:48] <linukso> crazy2k: use sudo to read it and pipe it to a textfile on you desktop
[01:48] <blacksky> :)
[01:49] <linukso> crazy2k: sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/x.log
[01:49] <dylan_> how do i tell firefox that the version is actually 1.0.4 and not 1.0.2 (the ubuntu version)
[01:49] <linukso> arg, thats not really a pipe :)
[01:49] <crazy2k> linukso: I was talking about pastebin.com. Don't know if I'm allowed to paste all that text.
[01:49] <linukso> Ah, stupid me... Think it must be time to go to sleep soon...
[01:49] <dapimp53> where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up
[01:50] <crazy2k> linukso: Done. http://pastebin.com/314717
[01:50] <NuffSed> dylan> about:config general.useragent.vendorSub
[01:50] <dylan_> thanks, nuffsed
[01:50] <NuffSed> change to 1.0.4
[01:51] <glick> cd
[01:51] <dapimp53> where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up
[01:51] <crazy2k> There seems to be a lot of errors realting to the resolution.
[01:52] <crazy2k> related*
[01:52] <crazy2k> hsync out of range
[01:52] <dylan_> Why does gtkpod tell me that my iPod's file structure isnt right?  Can i fix this?  thanks for all the help, guys im a total n00b
[01:53] <linukso> crazy2k: did you try changing the refreshrate when switching resolution?
[01:53] <linukso> crazy2k: 1024x768 only support 60 hz
[01:53] <crazy2k> linukso: I have just on option for refresh rate.
[01:53] <crazy2k> one*
[01:53] <crazy2k> Which is 60Hz.
[01:54] <ilmari> is the X breakage mentioned in the topic known to affect dead keys in emacs?
[01:54] <crazy2k> And just only one for resolution, which is 640x480.
[01:54] <linukso> crazy2k: arg...
[01:54] <neuronlapse> hey, how is there a website like packages.gentoo.org that shows all the ubuntu packages?
[01:55] <crazy2k> linukso: Maybe I have to explicitly write my default refresh rate and resolution. However, I don't know how to do it.
[01:55] <crazy2k> It might work though.
[01:55] <ilmari> neuronlapse: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <ilmari> neuronlapse: who'd'a thunk? ;-)
[01:56] <sizzam> if i create a file in vmware, whats the easiest way to get access to that file in my normal linux environment
[01:56] <neuronlapse> thanks :-D
[01:56] <dapimp53> where are the error logs located for when the computer boots up. I need to check what is going wrong when I boot the computer
[01:56] <dylan_> why doesnt beep show up in synaptic anymore?
[01:56] <ilmari> sizzam: loopback mount the vmware disk image
[01:56] <sizzam> ilmari:  thanks, i'll search on how to do that
[01:56] <ilmari> robotgee3: network-manager
[01:57] <ilmari> sizzam: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point/
[01:57] <TokenBad> is shockwave on linux?
[01:57] <ilmari> robotgee3: but that's only in breezy
[01:57] <ilmari> TokenBad: nope, just flash
[01:57] <neuronlapse> how can I find which ubuntu I'm using?
[01:57] <crazy2k> linukso: Any idea on how to do that?
[01:57] <TokenBad> that sucks
[01:57] <neuronlapse> like hoary breezy etc?
[01:57] <sizzam> ilmari:  thanks!
[01:58] <ilmari> neuronlapse: cat /etc/issue
[01:58] <ray_> mo shockwave
[01:58] <ray_> no
[01:58] <ray_> it sucks
[01:58] <crazy2k> linukso: Oh, found a similar problem in the forum.
[01:58] <neuronlapse> thanks :)
[01:58] <ray_> can anyone find a way to use shockwave?
[01:58] <dapimp53> Wow how come no one is answering me where the error logs are located for ubuntu
[01:59] <synd> dapimp53, cause no one paying attention knows?
[01:59] <synd> dapimp53, just be patient.
[01:59] <Thomas> !repositories
[01:59] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:59] <Kyral> try /var
[01:59] <linukso> crazy2k: great! Hope it helps you. Sorry I couldn't, but now I got to go to sleep... Happy hunting for a solution.
[01:59] <crazy2k> Thanks anyway.
[01:59] <blacksky> dapimp53: what logs are you looking for? Try /var/log? /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages are a good start
[01:59] <crazy2k> :)
[01:59] <Thomas> dude
[01:59] <ilmari> dapimp53: what error logs?
[02:00] <Thomas> what happen with repositories today i can't update
[02:00] <Thomas> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:00] <dapimp53> I need to check up when the computer is booting
[02:00] <dapimp53> it gives some errors
[02:00] <Thomas> any idea
[02:00] <Kyral> dapimp53, dmesg
[02:00] <chaps0063> I just upgraded to 2.6.10 kernel and sound does not work in xine, any thoughts?
[02:00] <blacksky> dapimp53: syslog or messages is what you are looking for. Also try the command dmesg
[02:01] <chaps0063> never mind, wrong button in xine..
[02:01] <Thomas> hello
[02:02] <Thomas> !ping me
[02:02] <ubotu> Thomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:02] <dylan_> why doesnt beep show up in synaptic?
[02:03] <kbrooks> dylan_, reload?
[02:03] <dylan_> ooh thanks lol
[02:03] <Thomas> ?
[02:03] <Thomas> help me pls some body
[02:04] <blacksky> Thomas: whats up?
[02:04] <dapimp53> On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect
[02:04] <Thomas> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:04] <Thomas> there
[02:04] <Thomas> i just run apt-get update
[02:05] <blacksky> Thomas: and it worked in the past?
[02:05] <ray_> Thomas: i had the same problem
[02:06] <blacksky> Thomas: Does this file exist: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[02:06] <tfort> anyone have the point2play and/or cedega .deb files lying around?
[02:06] <rob^> tfort, try
[02:06] <rob^> !cedega
[02:06] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[02:06] <tfort> transgaming.org has been down for 2 days now and i'm seriously in a bind for some WoW'in
[02:06] <ray_> what is cedega?
[02:07] <rob^> ray_, a way to play windows games on Linux
[02:07] <tfort> d3d emu
[02:07] <erik_> how do i make firefox support java?
[02:07] <rob^> !tell xry abou java
[02:07] <dapimp53> On my wireless network config it asks for a WEP key. What if I am using a WPA key... what do I do. I cannot seem to connect
[02:07] <xry> !tell xry about java
[02:07] <rob^> hmm
[02:08] <xry> but it doesnt work
[02:08] <jomdom> hey guys, any reason ubuntu wouldn't be saving my refresh rate when i restart?
[02:08] <jomdom> it always defaults back to 75
[02:08] <xry> but i just need the plugin for firefox
[02:08] <rob^> xry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:08] <xry> whats the name?
[02:09] <jomdom> i'd use 75, but the viewport is off the right side of the screen
[02:09] <Thomas> ray_ doe u fix ur apt-get update ?
[02:09] <xry> i repeat, i have java, just need the plugin for firefox
[02:09] <nightswim> symlink it
[02:09] <blacksky> Thomas: was that file there?
[02:09] <rob^> ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java includes the Firefox plugin
[02:09] <ubotu> ...but java is already something else...
[02:09] <nightswim> jomdom: because you havent told it o
[02:09] <rob^> wtf?
[02:09] <rob^> !java
[02:10] <jomdom> nightswim: how do you mean?
[02:10] <ray_> Thomas: i changed my apt sources to the canadian ones'
[02:10] <rob^> I think ubotus on crack again
[02:10] <jomdom> i am using the system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[02:10] <jomdom> tool
[02:10] <pax> ubotu: forget java
[02:10] <ray_> gotta have java
[02:11] <synd> java sucks
[02:11] <tfort> anyone know the answer to this, but the AGP aperture should be half your video ram right?
[02:11] <rob^> ubotu java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[02:11] <synd> limewire and azureus are prime examples
[02:11] <ubotu> from memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:11] <ubotu> pax: i forgot java
[02:11] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[02:11] <synd> !synd
[02:11] <ubotu> somebody said synd was a badass
[02:11] <synd> smart bot :)
[02:12] <tfort> !synd
[02:12] <synd> wtf
[02:12] <synd> wtf
[02:12] <synd> !synd
[02:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, synd is a badass
[02:12] <tfort> wow... even smarter bot, it has flood protection :-)
[02:12] <Thomas> blacksky this file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[02:12] <concept10> thank god
[02:12] <pax> rob^: seems like the bot already had a java entry and needed to forget that one before taking yours :)
[02:12] <tfort> !forty
[02:12] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tfort
[02:12] <Thomas> ray_ can u give ur sources.list ?
[02:12] <tfort> :-)
[02:12] <Thomas> where it is canadian sources ?
[02:12] <rob^> pax mine was the same, it just wasnt spitting out the one it had
[02:13] <blacksky> Thomas: yes. Is it there?
[02:13] <ray_> Thomas: sure
[02:13] <Thomas> dcc me pls
[02:13] <pax> rob^: maybe someone should work on his AI script
[02:13] <Thomas> and i will replace with my one
[02:14] <ugo> hi has anyone been able to get arla or openafs working on an amd64
[02:14] <ugo> ?
[02:15] <ugo> ive torn my hair out trying out different compile settings.....aargh!!!!
[02:15] <ray_> ur gonna have to except it thomas
[02:15] <ray_> Thomas: U GOTTA ACCEPT IT
[02:15] <cafuego> !find MkTemp.pl
[02:15] <ray_> there ya go
[02:15] <Thomas> yes
[02:16] <Thomas> wait i'll check it
[02:16] <ray_> Thomas: basicly its changing the us to ca
[02:16] <Thomas> oh ic
[02:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pl' returned no results.
[02:17] <Thomas> soo archive.ubuntu.com change to ca./archive.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <Thomas> *ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <ugo> hey....anybody see my question...id really like some help or a pointer at least?
[02:18] <cafuego> !find MkTemp.pm
[02:18] <cafuego> d'oh
[02:18] <ray_> Thomas: just paste mine in there
[02:18] <lordgoth> hello
[02:18] <lordgoth> how do you get on the dev team?
[02:18] <w01f> weird!
[02:18] <w01f> I was going to ask the saem question
[02:18] <lordgoth> lol
[02:19] <lordgoth> lies
[02:19] <w01f> I just read somewhere that you have to post some poics to get approved
[02:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'MkTemp.pm' returned no results.
[02:19] <kbrooks> poics?
[02:19] <lordgoth> pics i think
[02:19] <kbrooks> no
[02:19] <poningru> pics?
[02:19] <w01f> yes pics of kiddy porn i guess
[02:19] <kbrooks> you dont
[02:19] <lordgoth> yeah i heard the same thing
[02:19] <w01f> thats what i heard
[02:19] <kbrooks> lordgoth, w01f: WRONG
[02:19] <lordgoth> i just want to do get on the dev team because of the 9 year old chick hookups I heard they have
[02:20] <w01f> kbrooks?
[02:20] <lordgoth> kbrooks more like RIGHT
[02:20] <sizzam> ilmari:  can you give me that command to mount a vmware image again?
[02:20] <ray_> lordgoth: what?
[02:20] <kbrooks> lordgoth, stop the jokes
[02:20] <lordgoth> sizzam rm -rf /
[02:20] <sizzam> haha
[02:20] <w01f> sizzam: vmware wont get you pussy
[02:20] <lordgoth> <3
[02:20] <poningru> yes thats it you email it to these people:  J. Edgar Hoover Building
[02:20] <poningru> 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
[02:20] <poningru> Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
[02:20] <poningru> mail the kiddie porn to there
[02:20] <lordgoth> k
[02:21] <lordgoth> that's not what i heard though
[02:21] <kbrooks> lordgoth, dont lie then
[02:21] <w01f> kbrooks: are you a genuine Ubuntu hacker?
[02:21] <lordgoth> w01f no
[02:21] <lordgoth> he's a genuine ubuntu pedophile
[02:21] <w01f> lol
[02:21] <w01f> i thought so
[02:21] <sizzam> ugh, trolls
[02:22] <kbrooks> cut it
[02:22] <w01f> id like to be a pedophile for once
[02:22] <ugo> kid jokes are not funny people
[02:22] <lordgoth> sizzam where?
[02:22] <kbrooks> cafuego,
[02:22] <cafuego> kids aren't funny either, so that's a good match.
[02:22] <w01f> ugo: sorry if we hurt ur feelings
[02:22] <cafuego> kbrooks: where?
[02:22] <pax> last thing you should bring here is some bad joke like that
[02:22] <ugo> no need for the sorry....take that kind of chat out of here
[02:22] <w01f> h0h0h0
[02:22] <ugo> not on this thread....
[02:23] <w01f> fag ALERT!
[02:23] <w01f> lol@thread
[02:23] <kbrooks> i am a contributor to  ubuntu, lordgoth and w01f
[02:23] <w01f> so you DO get 9yo pussy
[02:23] <w01f> so you DO get 9yo pussy
[02:23] <w01f> lucky bastard you
[02:23] <kbrooks> dont you dare say bad things to the community
[02:23] <ugo> then you should be ashamed of yourself
[02:24] <w01f> should I?
[02:24] <w01f> whats wrong with kiddy pr0n?
[02:24] <kbrooks> ... ... ... ...
[02:24] <cafuego> kbrooks: ?
[02:24] <kbrooks> cafuego, um, those trolls are evil
[02:24] <r0d> omg w01f your a numb....
[02:24] <lordgoth> 		  I love ubuntu pedophiles like kbrooks!
[02:24] <lordgoth>               __   __	/
[02:24] <lordgoth>                  .'  '.'  `.
[02:24] <lordgoth>               _.-|  o | o  |-._
[02:24] <lordgoth>             .~   `.__.'.__.'^  ~.
[02:24] <lordgoth>           .~     ^  /   \  ^     ~.
[02:24] <lordgoth>           \-._^   ^|     |    ^_.-/
[02:24] <cafuego> kbrooks: No, they're just stupid and bored. Put them on /ignore.
[02:24] <lordgoth>           `\  `-._  \___/ ^_.-' /'
[02:24] <lordgoth>             `\_   `--...--'   /'
[02:24] <lordgoth>                `-.._______..-'      /\  /\
[02:24] <lordgoth>                   __/   \__         | |/ /_
[02:24] <lordgoth>                 .'^   ^    `.      .'   `__\
[02:24] <lordgoth>               .'    ^     ^  `.__.'^ .\ \
[02:24] <r0d> wheres an admin when ya need one...
[02:25] <lordgoth>              .' ^ .    ^   .    ^  .'  \/
[02:25] <lordgoth>             /    /        ^ \'.__.'
[02:25] <lordgoth>            |  ^ /|   ^      |
[02:25] <lordgoth>             \   \|^      ^  |
[02:25] <lordgoth>              `\^ |        ^ |
[02:25] <lordgoth>                `~|    ^     |
[02:25] <lordgoth>                  |  ^     ^ |
[02:25] <r0d> flooding is bad for your health
[02:25] <lordgoth>                  \^         /
[02:25] <lordgoth>                   `.    ^ .'
[02:25] <lordgoth>              jgs   : ^    ;
[02:25] <lordgoth>            .-~~~~~~   |  ^ ~~~~~~-.
[02:25] <lordgoth>           /   ^     ^ |    ^       \
[02:25] <auk> wtf!!
[02:25] <lordgoth>           \^     ^   / \  ^     ^  /
[02:25] <lordgoth>            `~~~~~~~~'   `~~~~~~~~~'
[02:25] <zenlunatic> quick everyone mess up his flood
[02:25] <r0d> admin where are u!
[02:25] <cafuego> If you don't feed the trolls, they die within minutes.
[02:25] <ugo> honestly these ppl ought to be banned
[02:25] <auk> /ignore
[02:25] <r0d> they have nothing better to do
[02:25] <r0d> sad ppl
[02:25] <sizzam> auk:  thx
[02:26] <lordgoth> LOL
[02:26] <sizzam> ls
[02:26] <w01f> r0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids
[02:26] <w01f> r0d, like you never wacked at ur neighbour's kids
[02:26] <lordgoth> w01f lol yes he uses ubuntu
[02:26] <r0d> im sure you are a kid
[02:26] <auk> lordgoth: don't laugh; if you keep it up no one on this channel will know when you say anyhting
[02:26] <r0d> actually i use gentoo
[02:26] <r0d> but thx for the assumption
[02:26] <lordgoth> r0d just as bad
[02:26] <w01f> gentoo gets more pussy?
[02:26] <w01f> gentoo gets more pussy?
[02:26] <w01f> gentoo gets more pussy?
[02:26] <mpet> theubuntu is the best distro it has sux name
[02:26] <lordgoth> ubuntu pedophiles and gentoo homos
[02:27] <r0d> and i care of what u think because....
[02:27] <lordgoth> both are lol
[02:27] <zenlunatic> nalioth, attack of the trolls :)
[02:27] <w01f> lol@GNU/pedophiux
[02:27] <ugo> lordgoth....whats wrong with you?
[02:27] <auk> rofl
[02:27] <r0d> sad kids
[02:27] <w01f> lol@GNU/pedophilux
[02:27] <r0d> dont u have homework to do
[02:27] <nalioth> zenlunatic:  trolls?
[02:27] <zenlunatic> nalioth, scroll up
[02:27] <w01f> r0d? joo got pics?
[02:27] <w01f> r0d? joo got pics?
[02:27] <sizzam> i hate it when the mandriva kids come to this room
[02:27] <w01f> r0d? joo got pics?
[02:27] <cafuego> People, stop responding to them. Sheesh. it's not hard, is it?
[02:27] <lordgoth> r0d a.s.l?
[02:27] <nalioth> ah, yes grafitti
[02:27] <nalioth> has an @op been informed?
[02:27] <cafuego> nalioth: No, scroll back further.
[02:27] <w01f> sizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT
[02:28] <w01f> sizzam, we dont use mandriva. we use MS-REDHAT
[02:28] <auk> rofl
[02:28] <cafuego> nalioth: ubotu needs an 'inform ops' command.
[02:28] <auk> heh
[02:28] <zenlunatic> cafuego, they're kinda funny
[02:28] <w01f> oh my god! i hear IRC sirens
[02:28] <auk> who's in charge of ubotu dev?
[02:28] <ugo> better....twits ignored
[02:28] <cafuego> zenlunatic: But not particualrly topical.
[02:28] <lordgoth> 			  r0d touched my jenkies =~(
[02:28] <lordgoth> 			/
[02:28] <lordgoth>      .--..--..--..--..--..--.
[02:28] <lordgoth>     .' \  (`._   (_)     _   \
[02:28] <lordgoth>   .'    |  '._)         (_)  |
[02:28] <lordgoth>   \ _.')\      .----..---.   /
[02:28] <lordgoth>   |(_.'  |    /    .-\-.  \  |
[02:28] <lordgoth>   \     0|    |   ( O| O) | o|
[02:28] <aru> what the hell
[02:28] <lordgoth>    |  _  |  .--.____.'._.-.  |
[02:28] <Melechorion> hio
[02:28] <auk> well--ignore time
[02:28] <lordgoth>    \ (_) | o         -` .-`  |
[02:28] <nalioth> no, they just need to catch up on the "we need to add these users to the access list" list
[02:28] <lordgoth>     |    \   |`-._ _ _ _ _\ /
[02:28] <lordgoth>     \    |   |  `. |_||_|   |
[02:29] <lordgoth>     | o  |    \_      \     |     -.   .-.
[02:29] <lordgoth>     |.-.  \     `--..-'   O |     `.`-' .'
[02:29] <lordgoth>   _.'  .' |     `-.-'      /-.__   ' .-'
[02:29] <lordgoth> .' `-.` '.|='=.='=.='=.='=|._/_ `-'.'
[02:29] <lordgoth> `-._  `.  |________/\_____|    `-.'
[02:29] <lordgoth>    .'   ).| '=' '='\/ '=' |
[02:29] <lordgoth>    `._.`  '---------------'
[02:29] <Thomas> WTF !!!!!!!!!
[02:29] <lordgoth>            //___\   //___\
[02:29] <lordgoth>              ||       ||
[02:29] <lordgoth>     LGB      ||_.-.   ||_.-.
[02:29] <lordgoth>             (_.--__) (_.--__)
[02:29] <auk> yeah, jsut ignore him
[02:29] <lordgoth> lol
[02:29] <no_gatez_fan> geeze
[02:29] <glick> lol
[02:29] <nalioth> Thomas:  and /ignore <username> works wonderfully
[02:29] <w01f> nalioth? what is that you are talking about? j00 seem like a proficent Ubuntu man
[02:29] <glick> nice art!
[02:29] <auk> not liek i'm seeing anything of his anymore
[02:29] <zenlunatic> you guys got to admit he is a good ascii artist
[02:29] <r0d> yea just did that
[02:29] <lol> damn gnu hippies
[02:29] <^thehatsrule^> lol he just copy and paste...
[02:29] <rob^> lol this is a help channel
[02:30] <kbrooks> lol: troll
[02:30] <ugo> all he wans is attention
[02:30] <pedofile> THEN HELP US!
[02:30] <auk> just ignore him!
[02:30] <pedofile> THEN HELP US!
[02:30] <lol> rob^ i know
[02:30] <nalioth> rob^: so we are helping psychopaths vent thru art?
[02:30] <rob^> lol go elsewhere
[02:30] <lol> rob^ #ubuntu helps you get kinder pr0n
[02:30] <lol> rob^ but only if your on the ubuntu dev team =~(
[02:30] <lol> haters =\
[02:30] <kbrooks> .....
[02:30] <ugo> can someone pls point me where i can get some arla support
[02:31] <sizzam> bob2:  a ban is in order
[02:31] <sizzam> right on
[02:31] <r0d> ty!
[02:31] <nalioth> aw, bob2  it was just gettin fun! lol
[02:31] <cafuego> bob2: thanks
[02:31] <lol> ugo http://support.on.nimp.org/
[02:31] <bob2> please do point that sort of thing out...(ie use my nick so the hilight triggers)
[02:31] <sizzam> i need help mounting my vmware vmdk XP file
[02:31] <cafuego> bob2: Can you msg be a list of op nicks? I'll an an !ops command to the bot.
[02:32] <bob2> ok
[02:32] <BobaFett> guys ... i'm having problems installing the flash player plugin for Opera ... I get a 'bad interpreter: permission denied' when running the installer ... any ideas? :(
[02:32] <rob^> good
[02:32] <robotgeek> anybody know a good tool for managing wireless connections?
[02:32] <Thomas> bob2 can u set the topic from where to must get source.list for apt-
[02:32] <chaps0063> how do I get audio to work in firefox with flash?
[02:32] <Thomas> it change from us
[02:32] <nalioth> BobaFett: pull the libflash thingy out of mozilla plugins and cp it into the opera plugins folder
[02:33] <r0d> robotgeek, like what? just seeing all the AP's
[02:33] <bob2> Thomas: hm?
[02:33] <ugo> hey does anyone have experience with afs on ubuntu?
[02:33] <kbrooks> bob2, spammer detected: lol
[02:33] <cafuego> sheesh, I should disable ssh for a while.
[02:33] <robotgeek> r0d: i can see my AP's, and all that...the connection keeps dropping
[02:33] <BobaFett> nalioth: supposedly, I completely removed firefox (it didnt work properly in my fresh ubuntu install) so I replaced it with an Opera .deb I got off the web...
[02:33] <poningru> nalioth: please dont be gay
[02:33] <Thomas> !sources
[02:33] <ubotu> I heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:34] <robotgeek> r0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop
[02:34] <r0d> bob2,  having hella time compling kernel. keep getting "cant mount vfs" i have all filesystems buildt in kernel
[02:34] <nalioth> poningru: what?
[02:34] <r0d> what card are u using?
[02:34] <kbrooks> bob2, spammer
[02:34] <r0d> or chipset robotgeek
[02:34] <nalioth> BobaFett:  do you still have your ~/.mozilla folders for firefox?
[02:34] <kbrooks> there is a spammer, bob2
[02:34] <bob2> r0d: then you forgot your ide controller
[02:34] <poningru> oops sorry nalioth
[02:34] <robotgeek> r0d: i am using a Belkin Card, with rt2500 on a ppc (no ndiswrapper)
[02:35] <bob2> r0d: the stock answer is "don't do that", tho
[02:35] <poningru> someone fingered me
[02:35] <poningru> I thought it was you
[02:35] <poningru> /Finger
[02:35] <r0d> bob2 i i need to patch my kernel to. thats why im compling plus ntfs write
[02:35] <nalioth> poningru: so put a good finger response in your client
[02:35] <BobaFett> nalioth: yes, they're still lying around my home folder, but the plugins folder's completely empty...
[02:35] <bob2> r0d: so use the default ubuntu config
[02:35] <Thomas> !proxy
[02:35] <ubotu> Thomas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:35] <lol> Why is bob2 the same as all other ubuntu users?? He loves little boys...
[02:35] <lol>         _          __________                              _,
[02:35] <lol>      _.-(_)._     ."          ".      .--""--.          _.-{__}-._
[02:35] <lol>    .'________'.   | .--------. |    .'        '.      .:-'`____`'-:.
[02:35] <lol>   [____________]  /` |________| `\  /   .'``'.   \    /_.-"`_  _`"-._\
[02:35] <lol>   /  / .\/. \  \|  / / .\/. \ \  ||  .'/.\/.\'.  |  /`   / .\/. \   `\
[02:35] <lol>   |  \__/\__/  |\_/  \__/\__/  \_/|  : |_/\_| ;  |  |    \__/\__/    |
[02:35] <bob2> r0d: and don't forget to make the initrd
[02:35] <lol>   \            /  \            /   \ '.\    /.' / .-\                >/-.
[02:35] <pax> leave insiders politics outta this help channel. if you have problems with dev team or other, how's this kinda behavior gonna help your case?
[02:35] <lol>   /'._  --  _.'\  /'._  --  _.'\   /'. `'--'` .'\/   '._-.__--__.-_.'
[02:35] <kbrooks> bob2: lol spammed a GNAA site
[02:35] <bob2> lol: idiot
[02:36] <poningru> hmm good artwork though
[02:36] <r0d> yea bob2  that initrd is giving me hell to. is their a wiki on that to learn more?
[02:36] <ugo> i agree
[02:36] <bob2> r0d: no need.  use the right .config, build with 'make-kpkg --initrd'
[02:36] <Keiz> Sup guys
[02:36] <Keiz> Anyone here managed to install NetworkManager?
[02:36] <ilmari> sizzam: provided that it's just a plain filesystem image: mount -o loop /path/to/fs.image /mount/point
[02:36] <ugo> sup keiz
[02:36] <ugo> know anything about afs?
[02:36] <robotgeek> r0d: i thought that it was dropping cause the card was too hot
[02:37] <cafuego> right
[02:37] <nalioth> BobaFett: are you still here?
[02:37] <cafuego> !ops lol is a troll
[02:37] <ubotu> cafuego: okay
[02:37] <JDahl> upo, I know AFS as a user...
[02:37] <bob2> i_love_you_bob2: er, your ip is the same, sorry
[02:37] <r0d> bob2,  ok in a nutshell; I'll compile the kernel w/ the ntfs write option and patched driver. then run that make-kpkg?
[02:37] <nalioth> boy howdy! it's fun night in #ubuntu
[02:37] <cafuego> you broken
[02:37] <bob2> r0d: no, make-kpkg compiles it
[02:37] <r0d> oooooo
[02:37] <r0d> kool thx bob2 . was hoping u'd get on..
[02:38] <bob2> r0d: bear in mind the normal ntfs-write driver is guaranteed to corrupt the disk, tho.
[02:38] <bob2> s/disk/filesystem/
[02:38] <chaps0063> how do I get (in gnome) a panel to show what my current cpu speed is?
[02:38] <ugo> afs..afs...afs....my life depends on the shit application
[02:38] <r0d> bummer
[02:38] <bob2> well, I'm glad my insomnia benefited someone ;p
[02:38] <robotgee1> r0d: i'm pretty sure that when u tell me, my connection will drop (did u tell anything?)
[02:38] <robotgee1> Keiz: it's on breezy, have to wait for dhcpbd to get ported to hoary
[02:38] <JDahl> ugo, do you happen to have specific AFS questions?
[02:38] <r0d> robotgee1, no
[02:38] <ugo> yes....
[02:38] <r0d> robotgee1, do you know the chipset that uses
[02:38] <BobaFett> nalioth: yes ... I was trying to get something under 'interpreter' from Synaptic to see if this thing installs :(
[02:38] <bob2> networkmanager for hoary is more complicated than that
[02:38] <robotgee1> r0d: rt2500
[02:38] <BobaFett> nalioth: but my mozilla plugins folder is empty...
[02:38] <ugo> im trying to compile arla or openafs on amd64
[02:38] <bob2> it's unlikely it will ever be usefully backported
[02:39] <ugo> both fail
[02:39] <cafuego> !ops
[02:39] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, and, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[02:39] <cafuego> There we go
[02:39] <robotgee1> bob2: oh okie...
[02:39] <nalioth> BobaFett: you should have more than one mozilla-related folder
[02:39] <bob2> cafuego: s/and// :)
[02:39] <cafuego> ubotu: unlock ops
[02:39] <ubotu> cafuego: unlocking factoid ops
[02:39] <cafuego> ubotu: ops =~ s/and, //
[02:39] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[02:39] <cafuego> !lock ops
[02:39] <ubotu> locking factoid ops, cafuego
[02:39] <ugo> what information do you need JDhal
[02:39] <BobaFett> nalioth: I never installed flash plugin for mozilla in the first place, so it shouldn't be there ... maybe if I get it from Synaptic, and then cp it to the opera plugins folder ... ?
[02:39] <ugo> ?
[02:39] <benplaut> still trying to figure out what you guys are trying to do...?
[02:40] <r0d> robotgee1, dont know anything about that chipset. do a iwlist eth1 ap
[02:40] <JDahl> ugo, CVS openafs compiles quite easily on x86; I dont know 64 bit complicates it
[02:40] <darkwind> !backports
[02:40] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[02:40] <r0d> robotgee1, replace eth1 w/ your card's configuration
[02:40] <bob2> cafuego: thanks dude
[02:40] <cafuego> bob2: np.
[02:40] <ugo> ok ill take my chances with that version
[02:40] <robotgee1> r0d: the chipset works fine, it;s just that suddenly, the led's go off and the connection drops
[02:40] <nalioth> BobaFett: you'll probably end up installing moz again
[02:40] <JDahl> ugo, there's also unofficial Ubuntu packages for arla (x86) somewhere... maybe get those and rebuild?
[02:40] <r0d> robotgee1, reason i asked chipset because their is a patch you need for certain drivers
[02:40] <ugo> already tried that
[02:41] <robotgee1> r0d: i've have nothing but problems today (i even had to use some other nick ... like now)
[02:41] <i_love_bob2> i love you
[02:41] <r0d> robotgee1, did you trie #wireless channel?
[02:41] <i_love_bob2> why did you do that to me
[02:41] <i_love_bob2> =~(
[02:41] <BobaFett> nalioth: I downloaded flashplayer from macromedia.com , extracted it ... but when I run ./flashplayer-installer I get the 'permission denied' error, even as root...
[02:41] <JDahl> ugo, arla seems like a mess to build from source... I would try to get openafs working - you just need the client, right?
[02:41] <robotgee1> r0d: on freenode?
[02:41] <r0d> yea
[02:41] <ugo> yes
[02:41] <robotgee1> cool, i dint know that...off i go!
[02:41] <r0d> those guys no their stuff
[02:42] <kbrooks> nalioth, btw i added " Do not use the backports for day to day usage!"
[02:42] <darkwind> hey this say conection refused when conecting http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[02:42] <ugo> i have the module sources of openafs from ubuntu
[02:42] <robotgee1> okay..be back
[02:42] <nalioth> BobaFett:  have you tried "gplflash.sourceforge.net"?
[02:42] <kbrooks> i_love_bob2, no you do not love him
[02:42] <nalioth> kbrooks:  bravo!
[02:42] <i_love_bob2> kbrooks i do too
[02:42] <bob2> i_love_bob2: abuse of tor will result in tor being banned
[02:42] <i_love_bob2> i want to have gay nigger sex with him
[02:42] <BobaFett> nalioth: nopes ... what's that?
[02:42] <i_love_bob2> i'm only a top though
[02:42] <i_love_bob2> -\
[02:42] <nalioth> BobaFett: go check it out
[02:42] <ugo> do you know if the module sources for openafs from ubuntu fail are problematic on x86
[02:42] <ugo> ?
[02:42] <nalioth> BobaFett: it might work for you
[02:43] <Keiz> Did Thom give up on NetworkManager
[02:43] <i_love_bob2> lol
[02:43] <BobaFett> nalioth: will do ... thanks a bunch! ({)
[02:43] <JDahl> ugo, I build openafs maybe 6-7 months ago... I think I had to patch a few things manually
[02:43] <ugo> ok
[02:43] <ugo> lets go have a look at cvs then
[02:45] <chaps0063> has anyone gotten the tablet on a tablet pc working?
[02:45] <zenlunatic> chaps0063, google it
[02:45] <calamari> hi
[02:46] <chaps0063> zenlunatic: I have, but I haven't found my particular tablet...and all things I found online haven't worked.
[02:46] <JDahl> ugo, as I remember, you to follow the README instructions down to the last detail, and there's something about incorrect redefines in afs headers files, but compiling it was doable
[02:46] <mitch528> how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)
[02:46] <JDahl> s/you to/you have to/
[02:46] <Keiz> Dang
[02:46] <Keiz> NetworkManager is no workie on Ubuntu
[02:46] <calamari> I have my floppy at /a in the fstab.. so I do "mount /a", then "cp files /a", then "umount /a".. but on the umount it says the device is busy.  I tried sync, then umount again.. still buys.  The only way to make it unbusy again seems to be a reboot.  Is this a linux bug?
[02:47] <Keiz> When I try to compile it I get lib errors but the libs are up to date.
[02:47] <bob2> Keiz: it works in breezy
[02:47] <bob2> Keiz: it won't work on hoary
[02:47] <darkwind> guy's where to get source.list and backport ??
[02:47] <Keiz> bob2, Gah
[02:47] <Keiz> Breezy the new one?
[02:47] <kbrooks> darkwind,
[02:47] <The_Vox> calamari: you need to run "lsof /a" and see what's actually keeping it busy
[02:47] <mitch528> how do you set your screen saver in ubuntu? (one that you download)
[02:47] <kbrooks> !backport
[02:47] <bob2> darkwind: the default sources.list is fine
[02:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kbrooks
[02:47] <kbrooks> !sources.list
[02:47] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kbrooks
[02:47] <kbrooks> !source.list
[02:48] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:48] <kbrooks> ?
[02:48] <kbrooks> :|
[02:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know whether gnome will soon/ever support "menubar in panel" mode, like in os x and kde?
[02:48] <kbrooks> !backports
[02:48] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[02:48] <bob2> Keiz: breezy is the development version, yes.  NM needs a newer dbus binding than is in hoary
[02:48] <ugo> ok JDahl
[02:48] <calamari> aha.. famd    3256 calamari   37r   DIR    2,0 2048  183 /media/floppy0/.Trash-calamari
[02:48] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: #gnome
[02:48] <Keiz> bob2, Dang.
[02:48] <calamari> The_Vox: thanks
[02:48] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: have you tried superkaramba? (i know it's not gnome)
[02:48] <Keiz> bob2, How can I upgrade my current one to Breezy?
[02:48] <ugo> its checking out at the moment....hope you'll be here in case i need to ask any more questions
[02:48] <ugo> thanks
[02:48] <bob2> Keiz: don't, just wait for it in october
[02:48] <The_Vox> calamari: once you find out what's keeping it busy, you undo it :)
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> never heard of it nalioth
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh..i alwsay thought your nick was nanolith.
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> never actually read it.
[02:49] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: superkaramba is to KDE what gdesklets are to gnome
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh.
[02:49] <calamari> The_Vox: I guess the trash can is keeping it buys, because there was a trash directory and it must have loaded when I mounted it
[02:49] <zenlunatic> nalioth, does gdesklets stand for gay?
[02:49] <JDahl> ugo, I will be around, but I dont have the AFS builds handy, so not sure how helpful I'll be
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> nalioth how did you know i'm using kde?
[02:49] <zwnj> hi there.  what's the situation of hoary-backport and hoary-extras?  what's your opinion on turning them on?
[02:49] <calamari> maybe I can delete the trash directory
[02:49] <kbrooks> zenlunatic, no
[02:50] <darkwind> bob2 darkwind: the default sources.list is fine <== us.archive.ubuntu.com still alive ??
[02:50] <bob2> darkwind: no, then change that
[02:50] <nalioth> zenlunatic: i have no clue, no, yes, maybe <swish>
[02:50] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: KDE apps work under gnome and vice versa
[02:50] <desrt> zwnj; they seem fairly good quality these days
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> nalioth i know this.
[02:50] <darkwind> doh
[02:51] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: i've been dispatching cab drivers for 12 hours already today (on-the-job-training)
[02:51] <darkwind> change too ?
[02:51] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: i'm doin good to type in english here
[02:51] <darkwind> what mirror bob ?
[02:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> nalioth lol.
[02:52] <JDahl> ugo, AFS is such a great technology... a pity it's so cumbersome to build and configure
[02:52] <funkyHat> is it possible to get gaim to blink the taskbar under gnome? (like it does in KDE)
[02:52] <zwnj> desrt: and it's firefox update and deprecating mozilla-firefox?
[02:52] <D1> it will be in gnome 2.12
[02:52] <zenlunatic> breezy will be gnome 2.10 still correct?
[02:53] <D1> not as far as I know.
[02:53] <light_punch2> anyone know  if grub can do something like "lilo -R distro2"?
[02:53] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, that feature would be annoying
[02:53] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, i just have an audio bell to alert me of new msgs
[02:54] <funkyHat> but is it possible?
[02:54] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, im sure its technically possible
[02:54] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, just hasn't been done yet
[02:54] <funkyHat> heh, ok
[02:54] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, probably not a priority for developers
[02:55] <zenlunatic> funkyHat, you could implement it yourself
[02:55] <funkyHat> i guess not
[02:55] <ugo> yeah we use it all over our campus
[02:55] <bob2> funkyHat: you could file a wishlist bug if you feel it's important
[02:55] <ugo> i learnt how it works internally last semester
[02:55] <bob2> funkyHat: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <ugo> very very well thought out...
[02:55] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[02:55] <benplaut> funkyHat: look on Ubuntu Forums, someone figured out how to do it
[02:56] <benplaut> i have it, and it works great
[02:56] <kbrooks> benplaut, url?
[02:56] <benplaut> looking
[02:57] <benplaut> here you go:
[02:57] <benplaut> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39776
[02:57] <mdke> i can't get my breezy packages. getting connection refused from the archives? anyone know what might be causing this?
[02:57] <funkyHat> brilliant :D, thanks
[02:57] <nalioth> mdke: its happening across the board, not just you
[02:58] <funkyHat> mdke, i've had a few problems with hoary during the day
[02:58] <mdke> hmm
[02:58] <mdke> i see thanks nalioth, funkyHat
[02:59] <Amaranth> hmm, !lock
[02:59] <Amaranth> ubotu: help lock
[03:00] <phillipc> I just unmoutned my ipod, but it hasn't been ejected afaik. The screen on the ipod still says do not disconnect. I unmounted it by right clicking the icon on the desktop and selecting umount. How can I now eject it? It doesn't exist in media
[03:01] <Amaranth> cafuego: does this mean i have more control over the bot now?
[03:01] <robotgee1> !humor
[03:01] <ubotu> robotgee1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:01] <Amaranth> phillipc: ouch
[03:02] <robotgee1> Amaranth: not exactly the best reaction on a help forum. lol!
[03:03] <Amaranth> haha, someone was telling me off for telling them something was illegal while having a link to PyMusique in my sig
[03:03] <Viddy> gotta hate that middle mouse buttont
[03:03] <Viddy> hn
[03:03] <Viddy> 
[03:03] <Amaranth> (I wrote it)
[03:04] <robotgee1> Amaranth: pymusique??
[03:04] <Amaranth> yeah
[03:04] <chaps0063> has anyone gotten WPA-PSK working, with using default drivers (no ndiswrapper_
[03:05] <robotgee1> i thought that was dvd jon. wait...
[03:05] <funkyHat> benplaut, thanks :D it looks great too
[03:05] <darkwind> does kiosk for kde work fine on gnome ??
[03:05] <robotgee1> Amaranth: so, ur dvd jon?
[03:06] <Amaranth> no
[03:06] <robotgee1> Amaranth: so, u wrote it with him or he's just linked to you??
[03:07] <Amaranth> He did registration, the initial code breaking, and the iTunes 4.7 code breaking.
[03:07] <Amaranth> I wrote the GUI and such.
[03:07] <kbrooks> ?
[03:07] <Amaranth> Figuring out how iTunes talks to the server.
[03:07] <nalioth> Amaranth: dont be so modest, tell us the truth, LOL
[03:07] <Amaranth> That's what he did.
[03:07] <robotgee1> Amaranth: cool, havent used it yet. Still havent bought an song from intunes!
[03:08] <Amaranth> Well, if we go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back...
[03:08] <Amaranth> Me and Cody wrote PHPTunes which was mostly me. He did the connection to the server, I did the XML parsing and rendering and such.
[03:09] <robotgee1> okie...
[03:09] <Amaranth> Cody ported the core of that to Python, I took over the project, added twisted and a GUI, and then jlj added his stuff.
[03:09] <Amaranth> so yeah, it's complicated
[03:09] <robotgee1> i think we should add this information to the wikipedia page on pymusique :)
[03:09] <Amaranth> go ahead
[03:10] <synd> bbl
[03:10] <Amaranth> do something to make my wikipedia page seem less worthless too :P
[03:10] <nalioth> come on Amaranth tell us who you REALLY are.... lol
[03:10] <robotgee1> lol!
[03:10] <Amaranth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Watkins
[03:10] <Amaranth> that guy
[03:11] <robotgee1> a wordpress blog!
[03:11] <Amaranth> yes...
[03:11] <nalioth> y'all wanna know something sad...?
[03:12] <robotgee1> i use wp too, it's very nice :)
[03:12] <robotgee1> go ahead
[03:12] <nalioth> i joined the army in 1986
[03:12] <Amaranth> haha
[03:12] <Amaranth> old geezer
[03:13] <glick> hehe im gonna ride the bull tonight!
[03:13] <nalioth> watch yer mouth, sonny! lolol
[03:13] <glick> lol
[03:13] <robotgee1> so, where's the sad part?
[03:14] <Amaranth> robotgee1: I was born in 1986
[03:14] <robotgee1> okie..me 82
[03:14] <Amaranth> ubotu: smeg
[03:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:14] <Amaranth> someone try to change that
[03:14] <Amaranth> a non-op
[03:14] <Amaranth> type 'ubotu: no, smeg is foo'
[03:14] <chgh> Installing ubuntu-desktop freezes at setting up ttf-opensymbol. It says Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file, and stops... any ideas?
[03:15] <Kyral> ubotu: no, smeg is foo
[03:15] <ubotu> Kyral: okay
[03:15] <nalioth> smeg is already something else
[03:15] <nalioth> Amaranth: is that what you wanted to see?
[03:15] <Amaranth> chgh: This is happening on the hoary install cd?
[03:15] <Amaranth> !smeg
[03:15] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is foo
[03:15] <darkwind> !backports
[03:15] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[03:15] <Amaranth> doh, it didn't lock
[03:15] <Kyral> I feel very powerful right now
[03:15] <chgh> yeah... for powerpc... I'm installing on a powermac g3
[03:15] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:15] <ubotu> okay, Amaranth
[03:15] <Amaranth> !lock smeg
[03:15] <ubotu> locking factoid smeg, Amaranth
[03:16] <Kyral> shall I try again?
[03:16] <Amaranth> sure
[03:16] <Kyral> ubotu: no, smeg is foo
[03:16] <ubotu> okay, Kyral
[03:16] <awb4422> is anyone getting really really slow speeds from us.archive.ubuntu.com servers?
[03:16] <Amaranth> grr
[03:16] <Amaranth> cafuego: !!!
[03:16] <Amaranth> !smeg
[03:16] <ubotu> smeg is, like, foo
[03:16] <Kyral> !smeg
[03:16] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:16] <ubotu> okay, Amaranth
[03:16] <Amaranth> ok, stop now
[03:16] <Kyral> Yep
[03:16] <ugo> awb4422: same thing here
[03:17] <jago> can any one tell me a good gui to use for my firewall
[03:17] <ugo> try firestarter
[03:17] <anto9us> jago: firestarter
[03:17] <jago> thank you
[03:17] <ugo> apt-get install firestarter...its pretty basic
[03:18] <glick> has anyone know what "riding the bull" is?
[03:18] <glick> lol
[03:18] <glyph> I've got a fancy "internet" keyboard with lots of extra keys
[03:19] <glyph> I'd like to make them do things
[03:19] <glyph> but only some of them are visible to X (using xev)
[03:19] <glyph> all of them show up fine on the console (using showkeys)
[03:19] <nalioth> jago: try this: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[03:19] <Amaranth> all i know about X keyboard mapping is the developers say it sucks
[03:19] <glyph> what configuration do I need to diddle to make X recognize them as valid scancodes, even if there are no associated keysyms?
[03:20] <glyph> Amaranth: I know enough to know that :)
[03:20] <glyph> Amaranth: I don't think this is even mapping, though.  I think that I have to say something other than 'pc104' in my xorg.conf, but I have no idea what my options are.
[03:21] <jago> thank again
[03:21] <chgh> also, Amaranth... it didn't stop with an apt error, it just hasn't processed any more
[03:22] <Amaranth> eh?
[03:22] <robotgee1> Amaranth: i've done my bit to make you a little more famous :)
[03:23] <chgh> nevermind I guess
[03:23] <chgh> I'll bbl...
[03:23] <Amaranth> robotgee1: err
[03:23] <Amaranth> robotgee1: show me?
[03:23] <virgule> !bug report
[03:23] <ubotu> virgule: I give up, what is it?
[03:24] <virgule> !bugreport
[03:24] <robotgee1> your wikipedia page :)
[03:24] <ubotu> Wish i knew, virgule
[03:24] <nalioth> robotgee1: you didnt spend $500,000 for a half-page in the New York Times, did you?
[03:24] <d-man> hello
[03:24] <d-man> i cannot get wine to work
[03:24] <d-man> can someone point out the command after i get the packages from synaptic
[03:25] <d-man> hello
[03:25] <d-man> anyone here know how to get wine working in ubuntu
[03:25] <robotgee1> i was gonna add all the nice info u gave me, but first i need to figure out the command to scroll up in irssi :)
[03:26] <Amaranth> d-man: get winesetuptk
[03:26] <d-man> i did
[03:26] <Amaranth> run it
[03:26] <nalioth> robotgee1:  ctrl-p for up and ctrl-n for down
[03:26] <d-man> and i did wine winesetuptk
[03:26] <Amaranth> no
[03:26] <d-man> and i got an error
[03:26] <Amaranth> winesetuptk
[03:26] <d-man> just that
[03:26] <Amaranth> Yeah.
[03:26] <d-man> it said bad command
[03:26] <Amaranth> ...
[03:26] <Amaranth> Ok, run 'wine'.
[03:27] <d-man> i did wine -winesetuptk and it started
[03:27] <d-man> but it came with an error
[03:27] <Amaranth> Run 'wine' and click the 'Configure wine' button on the little dialog that comes up.
[03:27] <robotgee1> i have the logs, will add some more in a bit :)
[03:27] <d-man> hmm
[03:27] <cafuego> yay, /me is in the 'host pool.ntp.org' rotation :-)
[03:27] <d-man> i will try
[03:28] <LinuxJones> d-man, maybe this will help >> http://www.winehq.com/site/howto
[03:28] <knowledge_> of course I reinstalled everything
[03:28] <d-man> i am on windoze right now
[03:28] <d-man> i read that
[03:28] <knowledge_> it only makes sense
[03:28] <ugo> gcc4 issue here
[03:28] <anto9us> glyph: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[03:28] <darkwind> guy's how to open *.mdb files ??
[03:28] <ugo>  warning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list
[03:28] <bob2> darkwind: you boot into windows and run Access
[03:28] <d-man> what is the best password manager for linux?
[03:28] <darkwind> doh
[03:28] <virgule> I have a problem with fvwm95 there is no font at all. I can click the buttom (start menu?)and right-click the background but all I get is a beige rectangle with no text. I can highlight items.. what should I do ?
[03:29] <darkwind> i don't wanna back to M$
[03:29] <ugo> hey does anyone know what this kind of gcc problem signifies
[03:29] <anto9us> darkwind: install mdbtools from universe
[03:29] <knowledge_> Yaar helped me with a command to get my fan control to work...because when I launch the program it says can't find /proc/i8k
[03:29] <darkwind> ty
[03:29] <knowledge_> anyone know?
[03:29] <OddAbe19> Hmmm... i need dual monitor help
[03:29] <OddAbe19> who knows about dual monitors on nvidia cards
[03:29] <knowledge_> grep | something something
[03:30] <chaps0063> I have apache installed, but its not processing php files, any help?
[03:30] <darkwind> !archive
[03:30] <ubotu> darkwind: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:30] <darkwind> !mirror
[03:30] <ubotu> darkwind: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:30] <bob2> chaps0063: you mean apache2, right?
[03:30] <bob2> darkwind: yo ucan /msg the bot, you know
[03:30] <LinuxJones> dark, doesn't Open Office work with those files ?
[03:30] <anto9us> darkwind: mdbtools-gmdb has a nice gui
[03:30] <bob2> OddAbe19: best to just ask your question
[03:31] <darkwind> i'm stiill on apt-get update now
[03:31] <LinuxJones> err, darkwind  ^^
[03:31] <virgule> !mol
[03:31] <ubotu> hmm... mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help
[03:31] <glyph> OddAbe19: I might know something
[03:31] <glyph> OddAbe19: what do you want to know
[03:31] <OddAbe19> well, I have one monitor on DVI ->VGA (CRT) and another on the VGA part of the card (CRT)
[03:31] <chaps0063> bob2: no.
[03:32] <knowledge_> no one knows how to add i8k to /proc?
[03:32] <OddAbe19> i need to know how to make it work, right now the DVI monitor works in GDM, and the other only works in CLI mode
[03:32] <bob2> chaps0063: apache isn't part of ubuntu's supported section
[03:32] <OddAbe19> lol
[03:32] <OddAbe19> i only have one in my xorg.conf
[03:32] <chaps0063> bob2: ok.
[03:32] <bob2> chaps0063: and did you install libapache-mod-php4 and read it's README.Debian?
[03:32] <OddAbe19> i'd like it side by side
[03:32] <glyph> OddAbe19: Are you using the proprieitary Nvidia driver?
[03:32] <ugo> someone was asking about mdb files on linux
[03:32] <ugo> still need help?
[03:33] <OddAbe19> yeah, 7667
[03:33] <glyph> OddAbe19: okay, it's easy then
[03:33] <glyph> OddAbe19: read up on the TwinView option
[03:33] <OddAbe19> and twinview is too confusing
[03:33] <OddAbe19> lol
[03:33] <glyph> OddAbe19: TwinView is super easy
[03:33] <OddAbe19> here, PM me
[03:33] <OddAbe19> so i can talk to you
[03:33] <OddAbe19> and not hold up the channel
[03:33] <glyph> OddAbe19: here, I'll /msg you the appropriate contents of my XF86Config
[03:33] <glyph> erm I mean xorg.conf
[03:33] <ugo> so...gcc4 issue here
[03:34] <ugo> is there a developer ubuntu channel?
[03:34] <Amaranth> ugo: You mean code that sucks issue.
[03:34] <ugo> sure Armanath....
[03:34] <Amaranth> ugo: gcc4 fails to compile bad programs, gcc3 didn't :)
[03:34] <Amaranth> What's the problem?
[03:34] <chaps0063> bob2: ok, so I removed everything, what do I need to apt-get install?
[03:34] <benplaut> WHY, oh WHY can't ubuntu have the newest version of wireless-tools
[03:34] <ugo> here....im trying to compile openafs on x86_64
[03:34] <benplaut> my pet peeve X 09872405
[03:35] <bob2> chaps0063: what do you want to install?
[03:35] <ugo> here's the error im getting
[03:35] <chaps0063> bob2: apache.
[03:35] <bob2> benplaut: because hoary was frozen 6 months ago
[03:35] <sfvt> ugo: #ubuntu-devel
[03:35] <chaps0063> apache, php, mysql
[03:35] <knowledge_> anyone know anything about i8kutils?
[03:35] <bob2> chaps0063: which version?
[03:35] <chaps0063> apache2 preferably.
[03:35] <ugo> warning: `struct flock64' declared inside parameter list
[03:35] <Amaranth> this is not a question for the developers
[03:35] <bob2> chaps0063: sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4
[03:35] <Amaranth> yeah, that's because gcc4 is stricter
[03:35] <darkwind> guy's change this id.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <ugo> yeah i know its not for the devels
[03:35] <darkwind> it's work :)
[03:35] <Amaranth> tell the openafs guys to fix their code
[03:35] <bob2> chaps0063: if by "mysql" you mean "mysql server", then mysql-server is the package you want
[03:36] <bob2> chaps0063: if you mean the php4 mysql stuff, then php4-mysql
[03:36] <anto9us> knowledge_: it's designed for Dell Inspirons, controlls throttling of processer and fan speed
[03:36] <ugo> i just need someone with sufficient gcc knowlege to tell me what i could change
[03:36] <Amaranth> ugo: Probably lots of things.
[03:36] <benplaut> bob2: i was told that becuase the latest version isn't considered stable (and development, AFAIK, has stopped), it _won't_ be implimented, in breezy either
[03:36] <Amaranth> ugo: Usually invalid code errors come in swarms.
[03:36] <chaps0063> bob2: and after that, will apache start?
[03:36] <ugo> well...better to start hacking at it in someway
[03:36] <bob2> benplaut: take it over then
[03:37] <bob2> chaps0063: of course
[03:37] <ugo> ok...still
[03:37] <benplaut> bob2: for those of us who aren't programmers...
[03:37] <ugo> if i could get openafs or arla working my life is complete till monday
[03:37] <benplaut> i'm still on the endless search for how to successfully compile
[03:37] <chaps0063> bob2: when I http://localhost it says connection refused
[03:37] <JDahl> ugo, I might try to compile it on an x86 later tonight; I will need to figure it out with the next few months anyway
[03:37] <ray_> does anybody know how i can print to a windows shared printer through a router using KDE..... i did it using gnome
[03:37] <benplaut> sorry... i'm just ranting
[03:37] <knowledge_> anto9us, I know, I just installed it, but it's not working right, I need to add /proc/i8k by doing grep | something
[03:37] <knowledge_> I forgot what the command is
[03:38] <bob2> ray_: try #kubuntu
[03:38] <knowledge_> Yaaar had told me it yesterday
[03:38] <ray_> bob2: i did
[03:38] <ugo> ok....
[03:38] <JDahl> ugo, except I run Hoary
[03:38] <bob2> benplaut: there's not much anyone can do then...unless someone wants to take it over
[03:38] <ray_> bob2: its dead over there
[03:38] <bob2> chaps0063: so, what's the first thing you do when a daemon doesn't work?  check the logs!
[03:38] <ugo> yeah...ive been thinking of making that switch
[03:38] <bob2> chaps0063: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[03:38] <chaps0063> bob2: fairly new to linux..
[03:38] <chaps0063> bob2: empty.
[03:38] <JDahl> bob2, I thought you powercycled your box??
[03:39] <gyaresu> JDahl, that's windows.
[03:39] <bob2> JDahl: this isn't hp-ux!
[03:39] <ugo> ubuntu's nice but once the easy install and cute gui wears off..you get to see where there's a lot of work still left....more power to the ppl anyways
[03:39] <nalioth> JDahl: linux need not ever be rebooted (as long as you are happy with it)
[03:39] <bob2> chaps0063: paste the output of "dpkg -l apache2 | tail -n1" here
[03:39] <bob2> ugo: for e xample?
[03:40] <anto9us> knowledge_: maybe this will help http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/00-README
[03:40] <JDahl> ugo, isnt your grief more with Linux in general?
[03:40] <chaps0063> ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[03:40] <ugo> *ducks*
[03:40] <ugo> ok....here come the fanboys....
[03:40] <bob2> chaps0063: and now 'ps aux | grep -c www-data'
[03:41] <chaps0063> 1
[03:41] <bob2> ugo: no, if you have actual gripes, please file bugs so they can be fixed.  just ranting on irc is pointless
[03:41] <HurricanePink> Huh... How do I make the icon for my mounted windows partition not show up on the desktop? :3
[03:41] <JDahl> ugo, not at all... just things like AFS issues are not Canonical's fault
[03:41] <bob2> you're more or less trolling
[03:41] <anto9us> HurricanePink: unmount it
[03:41] <ugo> nah no ranting dude....
[03:41] <bob2> ugo: then which issues in particular are you concerned about?
[03:41] <gyaresu> !bugs
[03:41] <ugo> if thats how this was percieved...i apologize
[03:42] <knowledge_> anto9us, nope...doesn't have that command in there
[03:42] <chaps0063> bob2: ps aux | grep -c www-data - - > 1
[03:42] <bob2> chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?
[03:42] <ugo> i had some problems working connecting to this obscure printer on my campus
[03:42] <chaps0063> ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se\
[03:42] <chaps0063> err, no \
[03:42] <HurricanePink> It wasn't on the desktop -before-... :3
[03:42] <gyaresu> someone killed ubotu?
[03:42] <bob2> ugo: what sort of printer is it?  which protocol doe it use?
[03:42] <ugo> they run an lpr queue....and gave us the details to connect to it
[03:42] <robotgee1> from what i've seen, things have really really improved on the linux front...i havent been forced to use OS X for abouut a month now
[03:43] <HurricanePink> I've always wanted to try OS X. Heh.
[03:43] <ugo> for some reason i couldnt get duplex printing to work
[03:43] <knowledge_> insmod -f i8k.o <----how would I use that command?
[03:43] <chaps0063> bob2: ii apache2           2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[03:43] <ugo> its a laserjet-8150
[03:43] <warty> I'm looking for the tty command for connecting to a serial device (i.e. a Cisco switch)
[03:43] <seanmc42> wussup, bitches?
[03:43] <bob2> chaps0063: you really typed the exact command I gave you?
[03:43] <bob2> knowledge_: you wouldn't
[03:43] <bob2> seanmc42: language please
[03:43] <chaps0063> bob2: yes.
[03:43] <seanmc42> my bsd
[03:43] <seanmc42> bad
[03:43] <ugo> it started working all of a sudden....i dont remember doing anything with the config unfort :-
[03:44] <knowledge_> bob2, I wouldn't use that?
[03:44] <bob2> chaps0063: with no '2'?
[03:44] <bob2> knowledge_: because that module exists on disk already.  sudo modprobe i8k.
[03:44] <knowledge_> THAT'S IT!
[03:44] <knowledge_> you're the sh.......mann
[03:45] <chaps0063> bob2: when it is without 2 - rc apache 1.3.33-4 verstaile, high-performance HTTP server
[03:45] <bob2> chaps0063: that's what I asked for, thanks
[03:45] <knowledge_> thanks a lot bob2
[03:45] <bob2> chaps0063: how about 'sudo netstat -plnt | grep 80'?
[03:45] <chaps0063> bob2: sorry, you said with the two..
[03:45] <chaps0063> bob2: nothing.
[03:45] <bob2> chaps0063: 11:42:08 @         bob2 | chaps0063: and 'dpkg -l apache | tail -n1'?
[03:46] <bob2> chaps0063: how about 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start', then netstat again?
[03:46] <chaps0063> bob2: oh, sorry I pasted from before...my bad.
[03:46] <ugo> ok...i really hope i can get some useful info that could help with afs...
[03:46] <chaps0063> bob2: still nothing.
[03:47] <bob2> chaps0063: now look in the error log file again
[03:47] <ugo> but here's the stuff comming out of the compiler for an fyi....
[03:47] <bob2> please don't paste masses of gcc output here
[03:47] <chaps0063> still blank.
[03:47] <bob2> it's highly unlikely anyone here is an afs hacker
[03:47] <ugo> right...
[03:47] <bob2> if you have problems compiling it with gcc-4.0, you need to talk to upstream, or perhaps on the ubunut-devel mailing list
[03:47] <ugo> ok...
[03:48] <chaps0063> bob2: error.log still blank
[03:49] <virgule> !afs
[03:49] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, virgule
[03:50] <bob2> chaps0063: what about if you run 'sudo apache2', then netstat?
[03:50] <chaps0063> tcp6   0   0 :::80    ::::*    LISTEN 15635/apache2
[03:51] <bob2> rock
[03:51] <bob2> hrm
[03:51] <chaps0063> paper?
[03:51] <chaps0063> lol.
[03:51] <bob2> is that all it prints?
[03:51] <chaps0063> oh you mean for netstat..
[03:51] <chaps0063> I did netstat -plnt | grep 80
[03:51] <bob2> ah, tcp6 implies tcp
[03:51] <bob2> that's cool
[03:51] <bob2> but why does the init script not work
[03:52] <bob2> chaps0063: sudo pkill apache2
[03:52] <chaps0063> bob2: done.
[03:52] <bob2> chaps0063: now try 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop ; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start'
[03:53] <chaps0063> bob2: it stopped it but didn't start it.
[03:53] <bob2> did it print anything?
[03:53] <virgule> there is a fairly annoying bug in fluxbox i am clueless where to go please advice
[03:53] <chaps0063> bob2: not after start..
[03:53] <robotgee1> virgule: what is it?
[03:54] <virgule> the 'system tray' can only take one icon at all
[03:54] <virgule> right now it show kmail icon but if I open liferea it gets overriden by the new icon
[03:55] <Madpilot> evening, all
[03:55] <robotgee1> virgule: i've moved to openbox
[03:56] <virgule> how is it?
[03:56] <robotgee1> it's pretty good,i am using it under gnome...
[03:56] <virgule> you mean i can run a wm in a wm?
[03:56] <Madpilot> how do I unpackage a .gz file that's owned by root?
[03:56] <kevin_> hopefully that's the last time I get unplugged tonight lol
[03:56] <robotgee1> virgule: it replaces metacity
[03:57] <virgule> sudo tar balh balh
[03:57] <bob2> virgule: gnome isn't a window manager...it's window manager, metacity, can be replaced.
[03:57] <robotgee1> sudo gunzip <blah>
[03:57] <bob2> Madpilot: chown it to the user
[03:57] <virgule> doh me
[03:57] <Amaranth> virgule: GNOME is a Desktop Environment, it's a bunch of things including a wm all brought together as one cohesive unit
[03:57] <OddAbe19> glyph, it kinda works, the left screen shows login, then when Gnome comes up, the right screens has it, but the left screen is white
[03:57] <chaps0063> bob2: start printed nothing
[03:58] <bob2> chaps0063: hm, I don't know what could be the problem then, unless you've done something weird
[03:58] <Amaranth> yay, i used the right word
[03:58] <chaps0063> bob2: like?
[03:58] <Madpilot> thnx, all. I don't need to own the directory - it's in /usr/share/... just unpack this one file.
[03:58] <Amaranth> stupid vocabulary, i just spit random words out
[03:58] <bob2> chaps0063: what have you done?
[03:58] <naringas> hello
[03:58] <hondje> cat /dev/random
[03:58] <chaps0063> bob2: nothing stupid that I know of.
[03:59] <naringas> i have this strange problem
[03:59] <bob2> Madpilot: then 'zcat /usr/share/blah.gz > ~/blah' is probably what you want
[03:59] <scorpix> if i install windows xp in another partition, do i have to reinstall grub or do any configurations for the boot loader?
[03:59] <benplaut> are these packages safe (do you think?)
[03:59] <naringas> some special url in nautilus don't work
[03:59] <benplaut> http://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wireless-tools/
[03:59] <OddAbe19> glyph, anyhelp?
[03:59] <nalioth> naringas: i don't think nautilus is a web browser
[03:59] <chaps0063> bob2: I did have apache 1.33 working..
[04:00] <Servo888> Hey what package provides x11 headers? I've got xorg-common and xserver-xorg
[04:00] <naringas> i mean special uri like start-here:///
[04:00] <blastmanu> mais o trouver des fichier .torrent parce qu'il n'y a pas de moteur de recherche comme dans les autres p2p?
[04:00] <Kyral> Kyral says the AMD is still around
[04:00] <sularus76> I am new to ubuntu. Where can I get programs for it? Does anyone know how load and where I can get an ICA client for ubuntu.?Thankyou.
[04:00] <nalioth> blastmanu: si'l vous plait en #ubuntu-fr
[04:00] <naringas> or preferences:/// or applications:///, however themes:/// does work
[04:00] <blastmanu> sorry
[04:00] <seanmc42> try the synaptic app
[04:00] <naringas> so does smb:///
[04:00] <seanmc42> from the cmd line
[04:00] <OddAbe19> can anyone help me with dual monitors?
[04:01] <keikoz> do somebody can help me on a kernel-compilation pbl ? i need to compile the generic kernel, but i receive a lot of errors
[04:01] <kevin_> OddAbe:.........not me Ubuntu dummy here, I am just proud that I got my wireless working in it lol
[04:01] <bob2> keikoz: why do you need to compile a kernel?
[04:02] <virgule> damn the right-click menu is killing me.. is there a way to make it stop blasting itself around like that!!
[04:02] <keikoz> bob2 cause i have a not recognized controller; only way is the -ac patch
[04:02] <robotgee1> kevin_: good
[04:02] <sizzam> how do USB 2.0 external hard drives compare to IDE or SATA drives speedwise?
[04:02] <bob2> ouch
[04:02] <keikoz> it is a ide/radi controller
[04:02] <keikoz> raid*
[04:02] <cafuego> keikoz: Are you running it in raid mode?
[04:02] <keikoz> no, in ide mode, but anyway it isnt recognized without that patch
[04:03] <JDahl> sizzam, I get around 11Mbytes/sec transfer to my usb harddisk
[04:03] <Computer__Guru> i want a very clean, modernized theme for kde..
[04:03] <sizzam> JDahl:  what kind of speeds would you say you get to your IDE?
[04:04] <JDahl> sizzam, probably 50-60Mbytes/sec
[04:04] <sularus76> sata 3GB transfers
[04:04] <gyaresu> question: the /usr/local/games folder has the group 'staff' my user isn't a member of 'staff' and can't save games configs/settings. Is that a bug?
[04:04] <sizzam> cool, thanks for the info
[04:04] <dylan_> is there an itunes alternative for linux?
[04:04] <keikoz> if somebody want to see the errors (sorry it's a french post) http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=8346
[04:04] <naringas> dylan_: amarok?
[04:04] <cafuego> gyaresu: usr/local isn't normally ubuntu stuff, so not an ubuntu bug.
[04:04] <bob2> gyaresu: all of /usr/local/ is owned by staff
[04:04] <keikoz> that's what happens with the kernel i compiled
[04:05] <kevin_> <-- even got the xfce4 running with no problems lol, I may stick with Ubntu if I could get more memory for this laptop
[04:05] <sularus76> where can I get a dtffrent desktop backround
[04:05] <gyaresu> bob2, Can you recommend the prefered Ubuntu place for installing games. (or do i just export paths and such?)
[04:05] <dapimp53> I need some help with my wireless connection. I currently have a WPA key on the wireless network. I can get it to work with WEP but the rest of the computers seem to loose internt connection. How do I configure my wireless connection with my WPA key
[04:06] <gyaresu> cafuego, thanks.
[04:06] <bob2> gyaresu: I'd just chgrp that dir to be owned by 'games'
[04:06] <virgule> huhuh-- dpkg -p openbox | grep Version show 3.2-7 but openbox website say latest (stable) is 2.2.3. Dev. version is 2.3. So where is the 3.2-7 from??
[04:06] <naringas> why could start-here:/// don't work ?
[04:06] <dylan_> amarok doesnt let me buy music
[04:06] <Computer__Guru> how does openbox look?
[04:06] <gyaresu> bob2, thanks.
[04:07] <cafuego> dylan_: they payware sites in say iTunes use proprietary encryption, so Linux can never legally support those.
[04:07] <kamstrumental> are there any better resources than art.gnome.org for gnome themes?
[04:07] <virgule> pretty empty - all I have is this right-click menu..
[04:07] <nickrud> I think start-here (spelling?) was depreciated a gnome revision or two ago
[04:08] <nalioth> kamstrumental: www.deviantart.com, gnome-look.com
[04:08] <keikoz> nobody can help me then ? :(
[04:08] <naringas> nickrud: it's in the docs
[04:09] <naringas> i can't acces preferences:/// nor applications:///
[04:09] <naringas> neither
[04:09] <virgule> I think I prefer fluxbox
[04:09] <ugo> hi
[04:09] <keikoz> another way could be to integrate the -ac patch in the ubuntu kernel, but i dont know how to do it
[04:10] <blmartin777> what is a good gnome based frontend for mldonkey?
[04:10] <nickrud> naringas, if a lot of the docs are for gnome 2.6 (according to yelp)
[04:11] <kamstrumental> nalioth: thanks alot!
[04:11] <nalioth> kamstrumental: np
[04:11] <virgule> ...and I don't have a ~/.openbox/ directory
[04:11] <naringas> thac could be it, sad
[04:11] <jcarr> is the default bittorrent download client that comes with ubuntu 5.04 broken?
[04:12] <Madpilot> kamstrumental, nalioth: it's http://www.gnome-look.org/ actually, not .com!
[04:12] <jcarr> I keep trying to download stuff.... the downloads NEVER begin
[04:12] <nalioth> jcarr: no, it just suX0rs
[04:12] <jcarr> on 10 seperate torrent from 10 seperate trackers for ten seperate things
[04:12] <nalioth> jcarr: are you open to the internet?
[04:12] <nickrud> getting people to do docs as volunteers is hard, from what I've seen.
[04:12] <naringas> then, how can I edit the applications menu?
[04:12] <nalioth> naringas: smeg
[04:13] <jcarr> Nakkel, no I'm not... I am on irc by using my advanced telepathy ... :(
[04:13] <Amaranth> oh, you said smeg
[04:13] <jcarr> nalioth I mean
[04:13] <Amaranth> you know, since i started making xchat beep on 'smeg' i've not gotten anything done
[04:14] <jcarr> bah... .what's the name for the python based bittorrent download gui
[04:14] <nalioth> jcarr: bt clients need to be 'connectable' (not behind a firewall)
[04:14] <JDahl> nickrud, IMO developers should be forced to do their own documentation - they write better code that way (at least that goes for myself)
[04:14] <jcarr> I used it on debian... never had a problem
[04:14] <nickrud> force, lol
[04:14] <nalioth> Amaranth: well, waht do you expect?
[04:14] <jcarr> nalioth, that cannot be the case... it worked fine on other distros and I have a static IP
[04:14] <jcarr> it is not public though
[04:14] <jcarr> it's an internal ip
[04:14] <Amaranth> jcarr: 'bittorrent'
[04:14] <nickrud> When I got paid, I did docs, when I didn't, I didn't :)
[04:14] <Amaranth> the official bittorrent client is written in python
[04:14] <jcarr> Amaranth, whatever
[04:15] <nalioth> jcarr: use the official 4.0 bt from the bt homepage
[04:15] <Amaranth> no, i was saying the name
[04:15] <jcarr> oh
[04:15] <cafuego> smeg is a kind of stove!
[04:16] <pax> what's smeg anyway?
[04:16] <Amaranth> probably
[04:16] <smeg> thanks
[04:16] <naringas> does applications:/// still exists in gnome 2.10
[04:16] <nalioth> jcarr: or azurerus if you have extra cpu cycles to sacrifice to the processor-sucking-demon-Java
[04:16] <Amaranth> pax: Simple Menu Editor for GNOME
[04:16] <Amaranth> naringas: no
[04:16] <Amaranth> smeg: wtf
[04:16] <desrt> naringas; no.  replaced with gnome-menus
[04:16] <kamstrumental> Madpilot: thanks ;)
[04:16] <smeg> nalioth, well, I do alot of java dev
[04:16] <smeg> and as a result, I have a lot of java based apps
[04:16] <smeg> another one won't hurt
[04:16] <pax> umm maybe I should ask about smeg when you're not around
[04:17] <Madpilot> kamstrumental: np.
[04:17] <naringas> I'm usually a kde kind of user
[04:17] <Amaranth> pax: Good luck with that. :)
[04:17] <smeg> it only sucks resources on one JVM invocation... multiple apps only use one JVM invocation
[04:17] <nalioth> jcarr: i unfortunately am on a G3/600 iBook, and azureus was killed after trying to load for over 12 hours
[04:17] <kevin_> on xfce4, how do I add buttons or something so I can access other programs?
[04:17] <Computer__Gur1> wonder if that was lag or just some weird net thing
[04:18] <cafuego> nalioth: Which jvm you using?
[04:18] <pax> but seriously, I have gnome-desktop installed but smeg is nowhere to be found, doest it come packed with gnome?
[04:18] <kiwi> Hi, I'm trying to mount a newly formatted ext3 partition.  But even though I set the options as default, the mounted folder is still read-only...
[04:18] <kiwi> Is there anything I seem to do wrong?
[04:18] <bob2> pax: nope
[04:19] <bob2> it's not even in hoary at all
[04:19] <pax> ah ok.
[04:19] <nalioth> cafuego: the one i had to give my soul to IBM for (their iseries jre)
[04:19] <cafuego> nalioth: I've previously been using the IBM jvm on ppc, and had good results with it.
[04:19] <bob2> kiwi: once you've mounted it, the root of the mount point is ro?
[04:19] <pax> bob2: smeg must suck then ::looks at Amaranth:: :p
[04:19] <nalioth> Amaranth: tell pax where to get s m e g, please
[04:19] <nickrud> out of curiosity, will there be an official ubuntu menu editor in breezy?
[04:19] <Amaranth> !smeg
[04:19] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:19] <Amaranth> pax: They don't think an editor like smeg is needed, appearently.
[04:19] <Amaranth> pax: Plus I never proposed it.
[04:19] <nalioth> nickrud: yes, s m e g
[04:20] <nickrud> heh
[04:20] <Amaranth> cafuego: I can't lock things.
[04:20] <kiwi> bob2: How could I check that?
[04:20] <bob2> mm, coffee
[04:20] <HurricanePink> So I've got DVDs playing in Xine now... but the picture output looks a little strange. o.O
[04:20] <cafuego> Amaranth: do you have a key?
[04:20] <bob2> kiwi: ls -ld /where/you/mounted/it/
[04:20] <Amaranth> haha
[04:20] <Amaranth> !lock smeg
[04:20] <Velcan> how can i change my mouse so that left+right click != middle click
[04:20] <knowledge_> guys...I'm installing the updates...and it's saying "configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386" for a long time
[04:20] <knowledge_> how long does that take?
[04:20] <cafuego> Amaranth: Are you identified?
[04:20] <Amaranth> oh, you locked it
[04:20] <smeg> NICE.... I'm leechin all kinds a shit offa bt now :)
[04:20] <smeg> thanks
[04:20] <Amaranth> i thought we needed dcc for that
[04:20] <cafuego> Amaranth: Yes, i saw you struggling ;-)
[04:20] <smeg> I'll have Sin City DVD by tomorrow :0
[04:20] <naringas> gnome is strange
[04:21] <cafuego> Amaranth: no, /m bot identify <pass>
[04:21] <Amaranth> smeg: Can you change your nick please? That's going to get confusing.
[04:21] <LinuxJones> Amaranth, smeg is definately needed what could they be thinking that users are going to edit text files by hand ?
[04:21] <Computer__Guru> i converted the three disc svcd to dvd myself :D
[04:21] <cafuego> Amaranth: dcc is only for chatline command (like die, rehash, etc)
[04:21] <smeg> LinuxJones, I am needed
[04:21] <Computer__Guru> avidemux is your friend
[04:21] <smeg> thanks!
[04:21] <Amaranth> cafuego: I forgot my password. :)
[04:21] <kiwi> bob2: read-write by root, read-only by users/group
[04:21] <LinuxJones> heh
[04:21] <smeg> j/k about the leeching stuff btw
[04:21] <neuronlapse> Hi, how can I unlock my /dev/ttyS0 cable in ubuntu?
[04:21] <bob2> kiwi: cool, that's normal
[04:21] <Amaranth> smeg: Please?
[04:21] <neuronlapse> I checked with fuser and no apps are using it
[04:21] <cafuego> ubotu: lobotomy
[04:21] <ubotu> cafuego: No idea
[04:21] <smeg> sigh
[04:21] <smeg> okay
[04:21] <bob2> kiwi: if you want to change the permissions, use chmod
[04:21] <cafuego> typical
[04:21] <JDahl> ugo, what architecture do you use when you compile for AMD 64bit? Openafs has support for lots of i386_xxx, but for 64bit you only seem to have sparc, alpha, ia64
[04:22] <nalioth> jcarr, sure you were kidding, you pirate! lol
[04:22] <kiwi> Ok, thanks. =D
[04:22] <Amaranth> :D
[04:22] <naringas> so, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNOME is the way to edit the applications menu in gnome 2.10
[04:22] <bob2> er
[04:22] <bob2> that seems a tad excessive
[04:22] <nickrud> neuronlapse, take a look in /var/lock
[04:22] <HurricanePink> The DVD image looks all... uh... liney.
[04:22] <Computer__Guru> wtf is +q?
[04:22] <Amaranth> bob2: I'll get rid of it in a bit.
[04:22] <HurricanePink> Like interlaced or whatever it is. ^^;
[04:22] <jcarr> nalioth, "ARGH!!! Shimber me tembers!!! I must unload these leet warez at the nearest ftp!"
[04:22] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: mute the user it's placed on
[04:22] <bob2> Computer__Guru: like +b, but they can join still.  ie it "quiets" them
[04:22] <neuronlapse> nickrud: already tried, just lvm in there
[04:22] <Amaranth> naringas: yeah
[04:22] <Computer__Guru> hahaha
[04:23] <jcarr> *timbers
[04:23] <Computer__Guru> right on
[04:23] <Computer__Guru> can they change nicks?
[04:23] <ugo> JDahl: there's apparently a hidden configure option
[04:23] <naringas> so, smeg or Simple Menu Editor for GNU is Not Unix Network Object Model Environment is the way to edit the applications menu
[04:23] <nickrud> neuronlapse, that's the only place I've seen a ttys0 lock, so ...
[04:23] <bob2> Computer__Guru: think so
[04:23] <neuronlapse> booo :(
[04:23] <Computer__Guru> like if you +q me can i change my nick to YouSuck
[04:23] <neuronlapse> heh
[04:23] <Amaranth> haha
[04:23] <knowledge_> so anyone know how long that usually takes?
[04:23] <Amaranth> naringas: That's nothing, expand PHP-GTK.
[04:23] <Velcan> am i right in thinking the line '	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"false" ' will be my solution?
[04:23] <neuronlapse> i'm using pppd over serial with my phone as a modem
[04:23] <knowledge_> "configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386"
[04:23] <Velcan> in the xorg.conf
[04:24] <nickrud> neuronlapse, yes, I assumed so, that's where my lock shows up
[04:24] <Amaranth> Velcan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <neuronlapse> ttyS0 was working but when i killed off pppd i think it got locked
[04:24] <bob2> knowledge_: go make a cup of tea
[04:24] <ugo> JDahl: amd64_linux24
[04:24] <marsh> i.have.a.roblem...after.cutomizing.keyboard.hortcut.i've.lotload.of.letter
[04:24] <Amaranth> Velcan: tell it to not emulate 3 buttons
[04:24] <jcarr> heh... "warez" the warez, d00dz? :P
[04:24] <Computer__Guru> cause i know if you're banned on a channel you cant change your nick if it will affect the ban
[04:24] <Velcan> thanks
[04:24] <knowledge_> bob2, Point very well taken
[04:24] <JDahl> ugo, do you have kernel 2.4?
[04:24] <blastmanu> hi
[04:24] <Amaranth> marsh: You can't hit the spacebar anymore? :)
[04:24] <ugo> hey J how do i get the red?
[04:24] <neuronlapse> thanks anyway nickrud... a reboot might do the trick
[04:24] <marsh> no
[04:24] <hoof> hi
[04:24] <Amaranth> ugo: like this?
[04:24] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: knowledgable ops will ban you into a new ISP
[04:24] <ugo> yeah....?
[04:24] <Amaranth> marsh: So uncustomize it. :)
[04:24] <Computer__Guru> marsh:thatsgottareallysuck
[04:25] <Amaranth> ugo: It happens when someone says your nick.
[04:25] <blastmanu> where is i found of files .torrent for testing bittorent please ?
[04:25] <cafuego> Computer__Guru: notsbasyoumighthting
[04:25] <ugo> ugo
[04:25] <hoof> i just installed ubuntu yesterday...i was a fedora user...im still getting used to the ubuntu environment
[04:25] <marsh> or.theonebetween.v&n.ortheonebetween.a&d
[04:25] <ugo> ugo hi
[04:25] <cafuego> ugo: someone not you, normally.
[04:25] <Computer__Guru> nalioth: yeah i know, just making a point
[04:25] <nalioth> blastmanu: legaltorrents.org
[04:25] <hoof> so far, i find ubuntu to be better than fedora
[04:25] <neuronlapse> hoof: me too :)
[04:25] <jcarr> Computer__Guru, lol... I am banned from a certain efnet channel for life! They banned me back in 2001
[04:25] <ugo> oh ok....better to test on me....
[04:25] <jcarr> still banned
[04:25] <naringas> PHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix
[04:25] <neuronlapse> I'm a gentoo user really, but I'm testing ubuntu for my gf
[04:25] <marsh> Amaranth, Itried.and.have.but.te.key.till.don'twork
[04:25] <cafuego> now about that coffee
[04:25] <neuronlapse> it's great for new linux users
[04:25] <naringas> PHP-GTK = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - GNU is Not Unix ToolKit
[04:25] <jcarr> all it was over was typing too fast and the called it flooding
[04:25] <Computer__Guru> cafuego:iusedtotalklikethisjusttopisspeopleoffinglobopsondalnetallthetime
[04:26] <jcarr> narlings: WRONG
[04:26] <jcarr> er, naringas
[04:26] <ugo> JDahl I have the 2.6.10-5 kernel
[04:26] <Amaranth> blastmanu: http://bt.etree.org/
[04:26] <naringas> ehh!?
[04:26] <neuronlapse> i'm tempted to use it myself but gnome is too heavy on my laptop
[04:26] <naringas> wah?
[04:26] <jcarr> naringas: gtk.php.net
[04:26] <JDahl> ugo, and you remembered to specify different links to the kernel header files and kernel source?
[04:26] <hoof> i tried to compile kernel 2.6.12 but i got some errors...could any of you guys refer me to a site that will instruct me how to compile kernel 2.6.12 from within ubuntu?
[04:26] <jcarr> YOU HAVE IT WRONGF
[04:26] <marsh> how.can.i.re5et.defualt5?
[04:26] <blastmanu> ok merci
[04:26] <nickrud> celebese beans, freshly ground (tongue hanging out)
[04:26] <blastmanu> thanks
[04:26] <ivan_qk> anybody know how to init ubuntu without startx?
[04:26] <jcarr> it is HIDDEOUSLY slow
[04:26] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: so install something like fluxbox or even better xfce
[04:26] <jcarr> I developed an app using it for the Zend PHP competition
[04:27] <JDahl> ugo, amd64_linux24 would be for kernel 2.4... I think openafs is still considered beta, at best, for linux2.6
[04:27] <neuronlapse> Computer__Guru: I thought ubuntu was totally dependent on gnome?
[04:27] <neuronlapse> I'm using fluxbox on this machine that I'm using now
[04:27] <Computer__Guru> that reminds me i need to do a sysv init audit
[04:27] <neuronlapse> (in gentoo)
[04:27] <marsh> theyareallkey5.that.i.ut.in.a5.ctrl.5hft.[key] 
[04:27] <Amaranth> PHP-GTK == Personal Home Pages Hypertext Preprocessor GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program ToolKit
[04:27] <jcarr> PHP-GTK is for those who feel that Java applets that use the older GUI library (that one before Swing) is too fast
[04:27] <ugo> JDahl no i specified the headers only
[04:27] <LinuxJones> ivan_qk, Ubuntu should give you the gdm login screen by default
[04:27] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: nope. i'm running kde, but i was setting up xfce yesterday
[04:27] <ivan_qk> yes
[04:27] <ugo> JDahl...right
[04:27] <ivan_qk> i dont wanna that
[04:27] <kiwi> Um... will the access permissions be changed after reboot?
[04:27] <imaek> According to netstat, the package "ftpd" is actually inetd, and I can't get one specific user to be able to access their ftp
[04:27] <ivan_qk> how i cant quit that?
[04:28] <neuronlapse> ah, cool :)
[04:28] <ugo> JDah: what about arla...?
[04:28] <ivan_qk> can*
[04:28] <ugo> JDahl: what about arla...?
[04:28] <neuronlapse> Computer__Guru: how would I go about getting rid of gnome and putting in fluxbox?
[04:28] <LinuxJones> ivan_qk, ok then sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:28] <rob^> when using Synaptic to add universe/multiverse repositories, are they already listed in synaptic on a default install or do you need to add them?
[04:28] <naringas> the php i didn't know, the gtk i forgot
[04:28] <Computer__Guru> imaek: may i recommend proftpd or another replacement for standard ftpd (which, imho, blows)
[04:28] <Amaranth> jcarr: PHP-GTK isn't that slow
[04:28] <ugo> JDahl: is there any possibility in that direction
[04:28] <tritium> rob^, universe is listed, but commented out.  multiverse must be added
[04:28] <bob2> rob^: you need to add them
[04:28] <Amaranth> jcarr: And version 2 uses GTK2 so it doesn't look like crap either.
[04:28] <rob^> thanks
[04:29] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: apt-get remove gnome-desktop && apt-get install fluxbox
[04:29] <JDahl> ugo, compiling arla is not for the faint of heart... what happened when you tried to rebuild the i386 for amd64?
[04:29] <ivan_qk> thanks alot man
[04:29] <ivan_qk> u are gret person :d
[04:29] <neuronlapse> Computer__Guru: what about all the gnome-dependent packages? :)
[04:29] <marsh> 5o .how.do.i.get.rid.of.problem?
[04:29] <LinuxJones> ivan_qk, why thank you very much :D
[04:29] <Computer__Guru> well you don't HAVE to get rid of gnome, youknow
[04:29] <jcarr> Amaranth, yes, but... I just don't feel PHP-GTK is a step in the right direction. Perhaps one day it will be, but that day isn't today
[04:30] <neuronlapse> I'd have to on my laptop
[04:30] <Amaranth> jcarr: I don't like it either. The right direction is PyGTK. :)
[04:30] <neuronlapse> way too heavy
[04:30] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: do this: apt-get install fluxbox, then log out of gnome, and at the gdm screen, choose session type, and change it to fluxbox
[04:30] <ugo> JDahl rerunning it now...just a sec
[04:30] <marsh> 5hortcuts5.are.not.defined.for.the5e .keys
[04:30] <jcarr> I'm a Qt fan myself
[04:30] <Amaranth> meh
[04:30] <cafuego> the problem with pygtk is py.
[04:30] <cafuego> and gtk
[04:30] <jcarr> I've only done QT work in C++ though
[04:30] <marsh> and.i.can.find.no.way.to.reset .them
[04:30] <neuronlapse> ok point taken... thanks Computer__Guru, I'll try that out
[04:30] <Computer__Guru> lol@cafuegu
[04:30] <Amaranth> cafuego: heretic!
[04:30] <nalioth> cafuego: so only the 'oink' works?
[04:30] <Computer__Guru> anytime
[04:31] <marsh>     hjkhsssdf
[04:31] <neuronlapse> can I remove gdm too?
[04:31] <JDahl> ugo, for i386 you can build a working version of openafs in an hour or two, if you follow the INSTALL guide line by line... but there's a lot of low-level kernel stuff that might not've been ported to AMD64
[04:31] <neuronlapse> and use qingy?
[04:31] <kevin_> got a dumb ?? what is fluxbox? totally new to linux lol
[04:31] <tritium> nalioth, have you installed on your new iMac yet?
[04:31] <marsh> shit - they just came back!
[04:31] <Amaranth> kevin_: You don't want it.
[04:31] <cafuego> Amaranth: I have come to that considered opinion after doing some pygtk debugging.
[04:31] <kevin_> k
[04:31] <nalioth> tritium: please dont get me started
[04:31] <marsh> Yipeeeee!!!!
[04:31] <nalioth> PLEASE DONT
[04:31] <ugo> JDahl yeah...now since my kernel is x86_64.....?
[04:31] <nalioth> heh
[04:31] <Computer__Guru> kevin_: it's a window manager like gnome or kde, but extremely lightweight and streamlined
[04:31] <rob^> also, by default, does the normal repos and universe repos point to archive.ubuntu.com or to the country you supplied during installation (in my case au.archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:31] <tritium> nalioth, sorry, I never heard what happened..
[04:31] <neuronlapse> Fluxbox is great
[04:31] <JDahl> ugo, just making idle conversation
[04:31] <ugo> JDahl whats the best option...downgrade?
[04:31] <marsh> bin like that since friday morning
[04:31] <Amaranth> fluxbox is not for Normal Users
[04:31] <imaek> Computer__Guru: Alright, I now have proftpd, but again I cannot access this specific user's FTP
[04:32] <neuronlapse> gnome's a desktop manager isn't it, technically?
[04:32] <Amaranth> Desktop Environment
[04:32] <Amaranth> It includes a WM called metacity.
[04:32] <cafuego> imaek: Check the ftp and/or auth logs.
[04:32] <neuronlapse> yep that's it
[04:32] <Computer__Guru> imaek: okay, make sure proftpd is running from within inetd.conf, then make sure that your user is a member of the group ftp
[04:32] <JDahl> ugo, give me a few to refresh my memory on ./configure for openafs... then you can try the same
[04:32] <cafuego> imaek: Does that user have a valid shell?
[04:32] <neuronlapse> fluxbox takes a lotta getting used to, but i like it
[04:32] <ugo> JDahl ok....appreciate your help
[04:32] <Amaranth> cafuego: PyGTK is preferred Ubuntu language/toolkit. :)
[04:32] <ZeroXp> hello
[04:33] <Amaranth> err, is the
[04:33] <kevin_> ok, I am using xfce and I cannot get it to where I xna get to my menus or none of that. to use xchat I have to open a term and type xchat
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> i prefer xfce, it's faster than flux
[04:33] <neuronlapse> really?
[04:33] <ZeroXp> aloooooooooo
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> of course, windowmaker is faster than both of them
[04:33] <imaek> cafuego: I don't know. How can I check?
[04:33] <neuronlapse> I've never tried it
[04:33] <cafuego> Amaranth: Yes, I noticed. Doesn't mean it's not shit, though.
[04:33] <ugo> JDahl ok....i have arla here also it seems to have the same kind of errors
[04:33] <cafuego> imaek: Check /etc/shells
[04:33] <Amaranth> cafuego: What do you use?
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: apt-get install xfce4
[04:33] <neuronlapse> what about fvwm?
[04:33] <Amaranth> cafuego: btw, language
[04:33] <cafuego> imaek: Make sure their shell is listed.
[04:33] <ugo> JDahl ok....and they both seem more gcc4 related
[04:33] <zaudragon> help!
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> dunno, havent used it in years
[04:33] <neuronlapse> so Computer_Guru, why do you prefer ubuntu over debian?
[04:33] <cafuego> Amaranth: Dutch, germand and english.
[04:33] <imaek> cafuego: I don't know which shell is their shell
[04:34] <Amaranth> cafuego: haha, i meant watch your language :)
[04:34] <cafuego> imaek: it's listed in /etc/passwd
[04:34] <Amaranth> cafuego: what do you use instead of pygtk?
[04:34] <cafuego> Amaranth: I always do.
[04:34] <zaudragon> what's the passwor on the LiveCD's?
[04:34] <zaudragon> *password
[04:34] <Amaranth> 'ubuntu', iirc
[04:34] <Computer__Guru> neuronlapse: it's put together better, and all the automagic scripting they do to make installation easy
[04:34] <JDahl> ugo, is it possible to mix gcc4 and gcc3.4 on your system? or too much trouble?
[04:34] <crimsun> there isn't one. If you need one, set it.
[04:34] <zaudragon> m0nk: really?
[04:34] <cafuego> Amaranth: Nothing, I use C on the cli and avoid GUI apps like the plague.
[04:34] <zaudragon> woah
[04:34] <imaek> cafuego: it doesn't seem to have one.  How can I add one?
[04:34] <ugo> JDahl is it possible to have both?
[04:34] <Amaranth> cafuego: I take it you're a screen and/or ratpoison user.
[04:35] <cafuego> imaek: 'sudo chsh user'
[04:35] <cafuego> (I think)
[04:35] <Amaranth> cafuego: With w3m embedded in emacs.
[04:35] <zaudragon> m0nk: DENIED
[04:35] <Amaranth> cafuego: and erc
[04:35] <zaudragon> ack
[04:35] <zaudragon> I mean Amaranth
[04:35] <cafuego> Amaranth: LANGUAGE!
[04:35] <ugo> JDahl id do whatever....im not really a gcc4 fan anymore....
[04:35] <neuronlapse> Computer_Guru: from first impressions over the last few hours it seems great for anyone that wants a fully fledged desktop that installs very fast, also very organised and nice gui
[04:35] <Computer__Guru> yeah i like it
[04:35] <JDahl> ugo, I think so, but you better get a second opionon on that - I never tried gcc4.0
[04:35] <imaek> cafuego: IT WORKS!
[04:35] <cafuego> imaek: I'm magic.
[04:35] <neuronlapse> I'm a bit put off by all the apps installed by default
[04:35] <Amaranth> cafuego: I don't see how anyone can avoid X and _not_ use emacs.
[04:35] <neuronlapse> but hey they can be removed
[04:36] <Computer__Guru> im gonna audit my sysv init system, i'll be back in a little bit
[04:36] <Amaranth> cafuego: I'm a gedit user myself though, so meh.
[04:36] <fortysixand2> Computer__Guru is still high on XFCE4?  :D
[04:36] <ugo> JDahl right....hmm....
[04:36] <neuronlapse> it'll be perfect for my gf tho, she's new to linux but keen to learn
[04:36] <Computer__Guru> fortysixand2: nah, im back in kde.. but xfce4 was very impresisve
[04:36] <Amaranth> cafuego: vi sucks! :D
[04:36] <Computer__Guru> impressive
[04:36] <fortysixand2> really?  why?
[04:36] <ugo> Amarnath hey do you know if its possible to mix gcc3 and 4 on the same box
[04:36] <Amaranth> cafuego: nano > *
[04:36] <zaudragon> Amaranth: 'ubuntu' didn't work
[04:36] <Computer__Guru> just already have everything setup how i like it
[04:36] <Amaranth> zaudragon: try no password
[04:36] <bddebian> Amaranth: Amen! :-)
[04:36] <fortysixand2> ah
[04:37] <neuronlapse> vi is king :-P
[04:37] <Computer__Guru> although i wish i could find kde window decorations as nice as those in xfce4
[04:37] <cafuego> bddebian: amaranth is trolling, could you +q it?
[04:37] <zaudragon> Amaranth: Login Cancelled
[04:37] <cafuego> bob2 even
[04:37] <Amaranth> cafuego: haha
[04:37] <Davey> Anyone know of a status bar indicator for my UPS?
[04:37] <kevin_> I use gedit or vi
[04:37] <bddebian> cafuego: ?
[04:37] <cafuego> Amaranth: Incidentally, did the locking work after you were identified?
[04:37] <Amaranth> oh, that reminds me, since everyone else stays opped...
[04:37] <Computer__Guru> anyone who uses vi is a masochist
[04:37] <Amaranth> cafuego: no, i don't know my password
[04:38] <pax> you use vim
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[04:38] <Computer__Guru> rather, anybody who uses it by choice
[04:38] <fortysixand2> vi > emacs
[04:38] <fortysixand2> *flame on*
[04:38] <zaudragon> Amaranth: no password did not work
[04:38] <Amaranth> vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim
[04:38] <Computer__Guru> vi < joe
[04:38] <Amaranth> zaudragon: No clue then, sorry.
[04:38] <Amaranth> I've never used the LiveCD.
[04:38] <zaudragon> Amarath: thanks anyways
[04:38] <Computer__Guru> sorry, not a vi fan
[04:38] <Amaranth> cafuego: ?
[04:39] <zaudragon> anyone in here use the LiveCD?
[04:39] <pax> how big is emcas 22MB last time I checked? you call that editor?
[04:39] <zaudragon> or used?
[04:39] <karvr> yea just got it going
[04:39] <bddebian> zaudragon: I have, what's the problem?
[04:39] <Computer__Guru> yeah emacs is a word processor, at the very least
[04:39] <zaudragon> bddebian: what's the password?
[04:39] <fortysixand2> password?
[04:39] <Computer__Guru> not to mention just about any programming ide you want it to be
[04:39] <Computer__Guru> email program
[04:39] <bddebian> zaudragon: Password for what?
[04:39] <Computer__Guru> etc etc etc
[04:39] <fortysixand2> for root?
[04:39] <karvr> you are root of the live cd
[04:39] <mame> hi
[04:40] <zaudragon> bddebian: like Ilocked the sc reen
[04:40] <karvr> reboot
[04:40] <bddebian> Hello mame
[04:40] <Computer__Guru> i should download charlie and the chocolate factory
[04:40] <ahuman01> Which repository has Azureus ?
[04:40] <fortysixand2> reboot +1
[04:40] <mame> I have a presario R3000 but mouse doesnt work ... and i dont know too much about xorg ... Someone could help me ?
[04:40] <Computer__Guru> ahuman01: i wasnt aware there was one
[04:40] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: Please don't discuss illegal activities here.
[04:40] <Computer__Guru> oh my lord
[04:40] <Computer__Guru> you got it, buddy
[04:41] <ahuman01> Computer__Guru, ahh ok
[04:41] <kevin_> well, I am going to go to the ubuntuweb site and see what wkse I can figure out
[04:41] <bddebian> zaudragon: Yeah, you may be stuck rebooting unfortunately
[04:41] <dapimp53> Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper
[04:41] <karvr> this live cd works very well, i may actuially make some space on the hd and install this
[04:41] <Computer__Guru> 8-)
[04:41] <cafuego> Amaranth: there ya go
[04:42] <mame> nobody for my little mouse ?
[04:42] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth is testing something
[04:42] <ubotu> okay, Amaranth
[04:42] <Amaranth> ubotu: lock Amaranth
[04:42] <ubotu> Amaranth: locking factoid amaranth
[04:42] <zaudragon> karvr/me leaves
[04:42] <zaudragon> thanks anyways guys
[04:42] <pax> forget emacs and vim, I'll use Joe, Joe's Own Editor
[04:42] <Amaranth> someone type 'ubotu: no, Amaranth is foo' please
[04:42] <bddebian> zaudragon: Sorry
[04:42] <cafuego> ubotu: no, Amaranth is foo
[04:42] <ubotu> cafuego: okay
[04:42] <tritium> Computer__Guru, sorry to know that's what you're doing
[04:42] <Amaranth> gah
[04:42] <Amaranth> of course you can change it :P
[04:42] <cafuego> maybe I should not be reg'd though ;-)
[04:42] <mame> pax, I used to use it but now i'm only using vim ...
[04:42] <mame> :)
[04:42] <karvr> can anyone see this typing ...?
[04:43] <bddebian> mame: Doesn't work at all?  What have you tried so far?
[04:43] <cafuego_> ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo
[04:43] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[04:43] <bddebian> karvr: Nope :-)
[04:43] <Amaranth> karvr: no :)
[04:43] <karvr> lol
[04:43] <nickrud> ubotu: no, amaranth is knowledgeable
[04:43] <ubotu> nickrud: okay
[04:43] <cafuego_> broken POS
[04:43] <Amaranth> gah, hang on
[04:43] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth
[04:43] <ubotu> I heard amaranth is knowledgeable
[04:43] <Amaranth> ubotu: lock Amaranth
[04:43] <ubotu> Amaranth: locking factoid amaranth
[04:43] <Amaranth> try again
[04:43] <cafuego_> ubotu: no, Amaranth is eally foo
[04:43] <tmt> hello
[04:43] <karvr> i cant believe i actually go 10 cds in the mail lol.....
[04:43] <cafuego_> ubotu: no, Amaranth is really foo
[04:43] <ubotu> cafuego_: okay
[04:43] <mame> bddebian, nope I just installed ubuntu on this laptop and everything is ok except the mouse ...
[04:43] <Amaranth> wtf
[04:43] <Amaranth> it fails the first time?
[04:43] <tmt> I'm having trouble with my konicawc based webcam
[04:44] <neuronlapse> what's the easiest way to compile a custom kernel on ubuntu?
[04:44] <cafuego_> Amaranth: no, 28 seconds flood protection told me to go jump
[04:44] <Computer__Guru> tritium: in a fascist or closed-minded community, it is often necessary to use code, or speak very vaguely. If you'd like an example of this, please refer to studies done of the song "Tamborine Man" by Bob Dylan
[04:44] <bddebian> mame: Is is a USB or PS/2 mouse?
[04:44] <tmt> neuronlapse: did you download the kernel source?
[04:44] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: _HIGHLY_ off-topic.
[04:44] <Computer__Guru> okay, ill shutup
[04:45] <Computer__Guru> ;)
[04:45] <crimsun> just take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <dapimp53> Where is a good howto on ndiswrapper
[04:45] <mame> bddebian, it's a laptop computer ....
[04:45] <bddebian> dapimp53: Google :-)
[04:45] <Computer__Guru> nah iw as just being a smartass anyways, ill just stop
[04:45] <dapimp53> mame: what type of laptop
[04:45] <bddebian> mame: Oh, synaptic touchpad kinda thing?
[04:45] <Amaranth> ok, no more talking to me
[04:45] <mame> dapimp53, presario R3000
[04:45] <mame> bddebian, dont know
[04:45] <cafuego_> Amaranth: I see, the bot checks hostmask for locking, not user.
[04:45] <nashife> I'm trying to install sun java's java on ubuntu, so that I can get azereus to work, and I can't figure out how to install the .bin file. can someone help? I'm new to linux...
[04:45] <dapimp53> who is the manufacturer of the bios?
[04:46] <bddebian> mame: Trackstick or touchpad?
[04:46] <mame> is there a way to maximize a window by key ?
[04:46] <Amaranth> cafuego: But it worked when nickrud did it too.
[04:46] <cafuego> Amaranth: grr
[04:46] <mame> bddebian, touchpad ...
[04:46] <ugo> JDahl so it seems its ok to mix
[04:46] <nashife> I've tried searching google, but I can't find help... so I'm checking here... can someone help?
[04:46] <Amaranth> mame: alt+space, then x
[04:46] <ugo> the next question is how to do it with apt get
[04:46] <mame> Amaranth, thanks
[04:47] <JDahl> ugo, ./configure-libafs complains about a missing src/libafs/Makefile.in, but it works if you just symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX (probably works for AMD also)
[04:47] <ugo> JDahl: any pointers
[04:47] <dapimp53> mame: check in your bios if your bios supports legacy usb. If it does, disable it. It fixed my touchpad
[04:47] <mame> bddebian, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:47] <bddebian> Aye
[04:47] <mame> aye quoi  ?
[04:47] <bddebian> Aye as in yes :-)
[04:48] <ugo> JDahl: what was the command you typed for configure
[04:48] <HurricanePink> Kino doesn't seem to like to open video files. --;
[04:48] <ugo> JDahl: i didnt get any problems during that part
[04:48] <mame> bddebian, do u think the thing about the BIOS that dapimp53 will help me ?
[04:48] <tritium> nashife, I'd recommend using java-package to build a .deb from the .bin you have
[04:48] <tritium> !java
[04:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[04:48] <bddebian> mame: It can, try that first
[04:48] <WillySilly> rm -rf /dev/god
[04:48] <nickrud> !realplayer
[04:48] <ubotu> nickrud: I give up, what is it?
[04:48] <nashife> tritium, how can I do that?
[04:48] <nickrud> !realplay
[04:48] <ubotu> nickrud: I haven't a clue
[04:48] <JDahl> ugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[04:48] <crimsun> !info java-package
[04:48] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[04:48] <mame> ok i'm going back in 3 minutes
[04:48] <mame> :)
[04:49] <crimsun> nashife: ^^
[04:49] <JDahl> ugo, ./configure[-libafs]  --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --prefix=/usr/local
[04:49] <nashife> crimsun, ^.-
[04:49] <seth_k> nashife: indeed, I just updated the Java how-to today, so it should be impeccably correct
[04:49] <tritium> nashife, give that a try, and if you run into trouble, let me know
[04:49] <nashife> seth_k, can you give me a link? just in the howtos on ubuntulinux.com?
[04:50] <JDahl> ugo, that's two commands: ./configure and ./configure-libafs, but you probably figured that out
[04:50] <seth_k>   ubotu gave you the link nashife
[04:50] <ubotu> seth_k: I give up, what is it?
[04:50] <tmt> when I try to use my intel webcam with camorama, it freezes up camorama and won't unload the konicawc module
[04:50] <WillySilly> rm -rf /dev/god
[04:50] <bddebian> WillySilly: ??
[04:50] <tmt> I don't see anything in messages
[04:50] <fortysixand2> WillySilly:  wtf?
[04:51] <fortysixand2> are you Nietzsche?
[04:51] <bddebian> heh
[04:52] <pax> I don't think god is in /dev anyway, try just plain rm -rf /  he's probably there.
[04:52] <dravine> howdy everyone
[04:52] <bddebian> Hello dravine
[04:52] <nickrud> hey, dravine
[04:52] <dravine> so, anyone know how to get postgres to not need ident?
[04:52] <dravine> I'm going nuts trying to get it to talk to my webserver/php
[04:52] <seth_k> nashife: did you find the link?
[04:53] <arnav> hey ho
[04:53] <arnav> need some help on creating debs on ubuntu
[04:53] <bddebian> Hello arnav
[04:53] <bddebian> arnav: What kind of help>?
[04:53] <nashife> seth_k, i'm looking for it right now
[04:53] <seth_k> what are you creating them from, arnav?
[04:53] <seth_k> ubotu tell nashife about java
[04:54] <nickrud> seth_k, heh, that is a much cleaner page now :)
[04:54] <arnav> am creating them from source tar files
[04:54] <dravine> anyone else run into this?
[04:54] <seth_k> just for you, arnav, or would you like to distribute them to others? are the sources already debianized (e.g. with a debian/ directory)
[04:56] <hoof> i need help in compiling kernel 2.6.12
[04:56] <mame> back
[04:56] <bddebian> mame: Any luck?
[04:56] <mame> nothing about legacy usb in the bios...
[04:56] <bddebian> hoof: Why do you need to compile it?
[04:56] <mame> bddebian, nope
[04:57] <mame> what's next ?
[04:57] <jcfreak> anyone know a work around to get into cups web admin?
[04:58] <nickrud> jcfreak, yes, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, restart cups, and point at :631
[04:58] <bddebian> mame: I am reading a site that says you may need a kernel patch.  Hang on.  You said that this is an R3000 right?
[04:59] <jcfreak> nickrud: thanks, i'll give that a shot
[04:59] <nickrud> jcfreak, it was recommended to me to deluser cupsys shadow and restart cups, after each use
[04:59] <mame> bddebian, apparently int he bios i saw R3200 but on it's written R3000
[04:59] <JDahl> ugo, it's compiling (and will be for the next hour or so), and seems to work doing just what pasted earlier - after that it's just a matter of configuration, as far as I remember
[05:00] <hoof> bddebian: because it's the kernel source.  How am I supposed to install it?
[05:00] <kamstrumental> I just downloaded 3 icon sets... Anybody give me a lead on how to install these puppies?
[05:01] <nameless1> i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface
[05:01] <neuronlapse> how do i set a kernel module to load at boot time?
[05:01] <bddebian> hoof: Hoary?
[05:01] <dapimp53> has anyone here installed madwifi on there ubuntu install?
[05:01] <tritium> neuronlapse, list it in /etc/modules
[05:01] <crimsun> neuronlapse: append its name to /etc/modules
[05:01] <mame> bddebian, so ... do you have  an idea ?
[05:01] <bddebian> mame: Everything I have read so far says you need a kernel patch and an updated driver for the ALPS touchpad
[05:01] <neuronlapse> thanks :)
[05:01] <nickrud> kamstrumental, extract them into ~/.icons
[05:01] <neuronlapse> never needed to use a module before
[05:02] <hoof> bddebian: can we talk in private?
[05:02] <bddebian> Sure
[05:02] <ugo> JDahl: all done
[05:02] <mame> bddebian, which kernel patch ? and where can i find the driver for ALPS ? in the testing version ?
[05:02] <kamstrumental> nickrud: I can add multiple sets at once?
[05:02] <ed1t> kamstrumental, go to system > preferences > theme, and then click on install new theme and locate the .tar.gz file
[05:02] <bddebian> mame: Google a little.  I found two different sites explaining the problem.
[05:03] <nameless1> i just installed my new 200gb sata hdd can someone tell me if there is any software with ubuntu that can format and mount it thru a graphical interface
[05:03] <mame> bddebian, hard when you dont have a fucking mouse ...
[05:03] <nashife> seth_k, I followed the instructions and added the new repositories, but synaptic says I already have that version of java installed.  This means something is wrong?
[05:03] <mariano> hola  a todos estoy probando  este hermoso y pintoresco sistema opertivo
[05:03] <seth_k> mariano: #ubuntu-es
[05:03] <tritium> mariano, #ubuntu-es por favor
[05:03] <nashife> how can i get azereus and other java applications working in ubuntu?
[05:03] <ed1t> nashife, trying to install jre 1.5?
[05:04] <bddebian> Sheesh
[05:04] <seth_k> nashife: that's just java common. Keep following the rest of the steps to install java itself
[05:04] <nashife> edlt, how can I install it?  my first question was how do i install the .bin file from the sun website, but no one answered
[05:04] <r0d> anyone in here every patch their orinoco driver for monitor mode?
[05:04] <seth_k> nashife: you have to download that 50MB file from Sun's site
[05:04] <tritium> nashife, we did answer you, actually
[05:04] <JDahl> ugo, compiled and everything?
[05:04] <nickrud> kamstrumental, you can have as many icon directories in ~/.icons as you want; you can select them by using System-Preferences-theme, button Theme Details tab icons
[05:05] <ed1t> !tell nashife about java
[05:05] <nashife> tritium, sorry if you answered.  Maybe I couldn't understand the answer...
[05:05] <mariano> hola aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:05] <tritium> nashife, I recommended you use java-package and gave you a URL to follow.  crimsun provided an additional URL
[05:06] <ugo> JDahl: apparently
[05:06] <tritium> mariano, #ubuntu-es, por favor
[05:06] <ugo> JDahl: it had no errors
[05:06] <nashife> tritium,  you gave me a url?
[05:06] <nashife> tritium, i'll scroll up and look again
[05:07] <tritium> nashife, it's the wiki page seth_k was referring you to as well
[05:07] <kamstrumental> nickrud: thanks again
[05:07] <nashife> tritium, yes, i found that link finally and i'm trying to follow the instructions
[05:07] <hondje_> how can I change screens in irssi over ssh from a mac? It has no alt key
[05:07] <nashife> tritium, seth_k, i didn't know that the ubotu user was an infobot
[05:07] <nashife> sorry
[05:07] <seth_k> haha no worries
[05:07] <JDahl> ugo, and see the build libraries somewhere src in the source tree? damn that fast - I should get a new computer
[05:07] <seth_k> need him to tell you the url again?
[05:07] <tritium> nashife, no problem :)
[05:08] <weis> nashife, type /window (window number)
[05:08] <weis> that drives me batty on my mac
[05:08] <JDahl> ugo, s/see/you see
[05:08] <nashife> no i got the message, and the url. i'm just still struggling to follow the instructions.
[05:08] <heatxsink> hi all
[05:08] <heatxsink> where can I find the default .Xsession for the system?
[05:08] <nickrud> kamstrumental, np, I get the low hanging fruit here :)
[05:08] <ugo> hey its not over yet....
[05:08] <hondje_> weis: thanks
[05:08] <ugo> JDahl hey its not over yet....
[05:08] <JiveNix> anyone with soundblaster audigy 2?
[05:08] <tritium> heatxsink, /etc/X11/
[05:08] <seth_k> nashife: follow the instructions in JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[05:08] <weis> hondje: sorry, wrong name. No problem
[05:08] <JiveNix> working under ubuntu?
[05:08] <heatxsink> JiveNix, me
[05:09] <JiveNix> heatxsink, did it work out of the box install?
[05:09] <crimsun> JiveNix: just unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack
[05:09] <heatxsink> JiveNix, what crimsun said
[05:09] <heatxsink> JiveNix, I still cannot get firewire working
[05:09] <JiveNix> where is that setting? alsamixer?
[05:09] <heatxsink> I dunno whyh
[05:09] <JiveNix> i'd be happy with sound, period :D
[05:09] <heatxsink> right on
[05:09] <r0d> do i need to patch pcmcia-cs to use monitor mode on my card. cant i just use the kernel pcmcia?
[05:09] <heatxsink> tritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add
[05:10] <bddebian> Damn I'm too slow..
[05:10] <JiveNix> anyone willing to hold my hand through it?
[05:10] <heatxsink> in my .Xsession file
[05:10] <JiveNix> i'm new to linux in general
[05:10] <heatxsink> JiveNix, you need to apt-get alsa-mixer
[05:10] <crimsun> JiveNix: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[05:10] <heatxsink> nm
[05:10] <kevin> that's what I need to do on this laptop yet, I keep forgetting to set the sound up lol
[05:10] <heatxsink> crimsun, got it
[05:10] <JiveNix> ok let me try it
[05:10] <JiveNix> i should have come here last night
[05:10] <mame> bddebian, could you give the links to the two articles you saw about the touchpad problem ?
[05:10] <heatxsink> I meant crimsun got it
[05:11] <bddebian> mame: One is:  http://www.plausible.org/r300z/
[05:11] <bddebian> mame: There are links to the other one from there
[05:11] <JiveNix> unable to find simple control 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0
[05:11] <crimsun> JiveNix: paste amixer output onto the topic's pastebin
[05:11] <heatxsink> tritium, i'm trying to do a ssh-add in my .Xsession file
[05:12] <mame> bddebian, ok thnks
[05:12] <heatxsink> tritium, what I didn't realize is that when I make a .Xsession file, it doesn't run the default one first
[05:12] <JiveNix> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/652
[05:12] <JiveNix> my motherboard has onboard sound too
[05:12] <JiveNix> i never use it
[05:12] <tritium> heatxsink, you tried your own ~/.Xsession ?
[05:12] <heatxsink> JiveNix, did you disable it in your bios?
[05:13] <JiveNix> no, let me try that
[05:13] <JiveNix> i'll be back
[05:13] <heatxsink> k
[05:13] <mame> bddebian, are you sure about your link ?
[05:13] <heatxsink> tritium, yes, but I believe that i have to implement which session I'd like
[05:13] <heatxsink> but I don't remember how to do that
[05:13] <flodine> anyone running E17 yet
[05:14] <scoperesolution> anyone know how to get a usb hd to auto mount?
[05:14] <bddebian> mame: Whoops should be /r3000z/
[05:14] <kamstrumental> where is the wallpaper folder anyone?
[05:14] <jcfreak> nickrud: thanks for the help...that worked great
[05:14] <nickrud> jcfreak, I freaked out until I got told about that ;)
[05:14] <tfort_> thank god.. finally got WoW to install
[05:14] <weis> /usr/share/backgrounds
[05:14] <sizzam> if i run a program with wine, how do i give myself the ability to browse to folders that lay outside of my fake_windows folder
[05:14] <tritium> heatxsink, I'm not sure
[05:14] <heatxsink> ahh
[05:15] <heatxsink> tritium, i found that file in /etc/X11 but I think that's a top level Xsession file, I'm gonna go through that more throughly and figure out where it's pulling the "default" settings from.
[05:15] <kamstrumental> weis: it says i do not have privelages?
[05:16] <weis> kamstrumental: might need root priv.
[05:16] <tritium> heatxsink, you asked where the system level one was, right?  That's it.
[05:16] <JDahl> ugo, building it was faster than I remembered.. now it's done and I have /src/openafs/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.10-5-686-SP/libafs.ko. After a "sudo make install" I should be able to manually load that module and run afsd. If you get that far, you should be ok (modulo configuration, where you're on you own)
[05:16] <weis> kamstrumental: you could change permissions on the backgrounds folder to allow anyone to write to it, or you could do a sudo bash from the console and copy it manually
[05:16] <heatxsink> tritium, so if I just cp'ed it from /etc/X11/ to ~/ and added my stuff to the end of it?
[05:16] <WillySilly> rm -rf /dev/god
[05:16] <heatxsink> haha
[05:17] <bddebian> tritium: WillySilly ?
[05:17] <neuronlapse> I'm trying to setup irda but /dev/ircomm0 doesn't exist
[05:17] <tritium> bddebian, what?
[05:17] <neuronlapse> well I used mknod to create it
[05:17] <kamstrumental> weis: must i log out as user and log in as admin?
[05:17] <neuronlapse> but I think I might need a kernel modules
[05:17] <weis> kamstrumental, no, just open a root shell from the applications menu
[05:17] <kamstrumental> weis: because as is, i cannot change permissions
[05:17] <JDahl> ugo, as a last note, you may have to manually copy the library to the right /lib/modules dir and update modconf etc. (I think I had to do that last time)
[05:17] <tritium> heatxsink, you can if you like, although you don't need to copy it.  Your personalized one can contain only what you need.
[05:18] <heatxsink> tritium, so how would I just start gnome-session?
[05:18] <nickrud> kamstrumental, just sudo cp the background picture into into /usr/share/backgrounds
[05:18] <dapimp53_> when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:19] <dapimp53_>  How do I fix it
[05:19] <tritium> heatxsink, I see.  You're not running a display manager like gdm?
[05:19] <heatxsink> i am
[05:19] <heatxsink> I used to do this on slackware
[05:19] <kamstrumental> weis: would it be "sudo cp filename.png /usr/share/backgrounds"?
[05:19] <tritium> heatxsink, it should have a gnome-session for you automatically
[05:19] <weis> kamstrumental, with a trailing slash on backgrounds, like /backgrounds/
[05:19] <JiveNix> ok onboard sound disabled
[05:20] <heatxsink> JiveNix, work?
[05:20] <tritium> heatxsink, what happens when gdm starts fo ryou?
[05:20] <JiveNix> still no sound
[05:20] <JiveNix> using the multimedia system selector test
[05:20] <heatxsink> run that one command
[05:20] <ugo> JDahl: checking whats been compiled right now
[05:20] <heatxsink> that the one dude gave you
[05:20] <WillySilly> rm -rf /
[05:20] <heatxsink> should work after that
[05:20] <ugo> JDahl: dude i cant thank you enough
[05:20] <JiveNix> can you paste it again?
[05:20] <WillySilly> thats what i call the apocalypse
[05:20] <tritium> WillySilly, please stop
[05:20] <JiveNix> nm
[05:20] <JiveNix> i remembered
[05:21] <crimsun> JiveNix: what's the status of amixer's current output?
[05:21] <WillySilly> ?
[05:21] <nashife> seth_k, tritium, and anyone else.  is there more that I need to do after I finish the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions ? Do i need to restart? do I need to remove other versions of java? azereus still does not run...
[05:21] <nickrud> WillySilly, bad joke
[05:21] <JiveNix> oh shoot
[05:21] <nashife> do i need to remove and re-add azereus?
[05:21] <JDahl> ugo, as a matter you fact you can... let me just fetch my paypal number... brb
[05:21] <heatxsink> tritium, okay so when I define my own .Xsession with just my ssh-add gdm bombs cause there's not directive in the .Xsession file to start any kind of manager.
[05:21] <JiveNix> its all garbling
[05:21] <WillySilly> you must have a bad sense of humor
[05:21] <JiveNix> i did amixer set 'audigy analog/digital output jack' on
[05:21] <JiveNix> and now its making a bubbling sound
[05:21] <heatxsink> tritium, i'm gonna try this thing again
[05:21] <nickrud> WillySilly, someone might try it, cuz they believe what they read here
[05:21] <JiveNix> but at least its making some kind of sound
[05:22] <tritium> heatxsink, you don't have to do that with ubuntu.  I'm not understanding why you're doing that, since you're running gdm.
[05:22] <heatxsink> JiveNix, like when you click or something?
[05:22] <JiveNix> thats deffinitely a step forward
[05:22] <JiveNix> no its doing it constantly
[05:22] <WillySilly> well they shouldnt believe everything they read
[05:22] <WillySilly> its common sense
[05:22] <bddebian> WillySilly: If you don't need help or aren't going to help, why are you in this channel?
[05:22] <heatxsink> tritium, cause I don't want to have to enter a passpharse when opening a terminal session
[05:22] <heatxsink> do a man on ssh-ad
[05:22] <heatxsink> do a man on ssh-add*
[05:22] <seth_k> WillySilly: stop spamming and stay on topic, please. People need help.
[05:22] <heatxsink> you'll see what i'm trying to do
[05:22] <JiveNix> any idea about this garbling?
[05:23] <nashife> :) like me. i need help. :)
[05:23] <seth_k> nashife: no, that should be the end of it. You dpkg -i'd a deb?
[05:23] <D1> does xine play mp3s? I can't get my totem-xine to play mp3s.
[05:23] <nashife> seth_k, yes i did. and it seemed to install fine
[05:23] <heatxsink> tritium, brb
[05:23] <WillySilly> meh
[05:23] <JiveNix> uh oh
[05:23] <nickrud> WillySilly, :)
[05:23] <nashife> seth_k, when i run azereus from the terminal, a long output comes up and then it just hangs.
[05:24] <JiveNix> anyone else can help wiht my sound card?
[05:24] <dapimp53_> when I type modprobe ndiswrapper I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:24] <kamstrumental> weis: I entered the following: "sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/" and got: "cp: omitting directory `/home/daren/Desktop' -- cp: cannot stat `G.png': No such file or directory"
[05:24] <bigfoot1> hello all. I want to put the Preferences-->Keyboard-->Typing Break Applet on my panel.  I have it marked, but it's not showing up on my panel. What's up?
[05:24] <seth_k> nashife: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and lemme have it :P
[05:24] <crimsun> JDahl: I really hope you're joking
[05:24] <WillySilly> :|
[05:24] <kamstrumental> weis: i identified origin and destination.. wrong order of command?
[05:24] <kevin> dapimp3: I use madwifi and it is working great
[05:24] <mame> bddebian, what's weird is that on this computer a debian was installed before this ubuntu and the touchpad was working .... So what is different between the Debian and Ubuntu kernels ?
[05:24] <bddebian> dapimp53: Did you run that as sudo?
[05:24] <weis> kamstrumental, you'll need to do this: sudo cp /home/daren/Desktop\ /G.png /usr/share/backgrounds/
[05:25] <JDahl> crimsun, yeah... actually it did seem abit rude :S
[05:25] <weis> the space in your filename makes it look like two files
[05:25] <dapimp53_> bddebian: yes I did
[05:25] <dapimp53_> kevin: I cant get madwifi to install... would you be willing to help me get it installed
[05:25] <nashife> seth_k, this is embarrassing... but what's pastebin? paste the output and send it to your username? or...?
[05:25] <ugo> JDahl: where's the proper place to put this module
[05:25] <ugo> ?
[05:25] <kevin> one sec I will post a link
[05:25] <bddebian> mame: What kernel version are you running?  uname -a
[05:25] <seth_k> nashife: no worries. Click the link, then paste the output there
[05:25] <nashife> aw, thanks tritium. someday i won't feel so dumb.
[05:26] <seth_k> about time WillySilly left
[05:26] <mame> 2.6.10
[05:26] <nashife> it's long. you want it in the main channel?
[05:26] <tritium> nashife, you're not dumb.  You're learning something new.
[05:26] <kevin> dapimp3:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41670
[05:27] <kevin> this is what I used
[05:27] <mame> bddebian, 2.6.10 ... maybe another should work ....
[05:27] <mame> or maybe some module is not loaded ...
[05:27] <nashife>    1.
[05:27] <nashife>       java.nio.charset.UnsupportedCharsetException
[05:27] <nashife>    2.
[05:27] <nashife>          at java.nio.charset.Charset.forName (Charset.java:125)
[05:27] <nashife>    3.
[05:27] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:32)
[05:27] <nashife>    4.
[05:27] <seth_k> noooooooooooooo
[05:27] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)
[05:27] <nashife>    5.
[05:27] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)
[05:27] <nashife>    6.
[05:27] <nickrud> he did ask :)
[05:27] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:110)
[05:27] <nashife>    7.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.save (Configurati onManager.java:145)
[05:28] <nashife>    8.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)
[05:28] <nashife>    9.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.startup (AEDiagnostics.java:117 )
[05:28] <seth_k> he did ask! I didn't notice :(
[05:28] <nashife>   10.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEDiagnostics.getLogger (AEDiagnostics.java:1 84)
[05:28] <nashife>   11.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.Debug.static{} (Debug.java:16)
[05:28] <nashife>   12.
[05:28] <nashife>          at java.lang.VMClass.step8 (VMClass.java)
[05:28] <nashife>   13.
[05:28] <bddebian> mame: What happens if you go to a terminal and type:  "sudo modprobe psmouse" ?
[05:28] <nashife>          at java.lang.Class.initialize (Class.java:145)
[05:28] <nashife>   14.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.BEncoder (BEncoder.java:37)
[05:28] <nashife>   15.
[05:28] <aru> sweet
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.BEncoder.encode (BEncoder.java:43)
[05:28] <seth_k> well, at least we know it's not a java problem.
[05:28] <nashife>   16.
[05:28] <JDahl> ugo, ideally a "sudo make install" should do it for you (I dont want to install it on this machine). Dont you get a library installed somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.10-xxx? I think you have tweak module loading yourself. First try loading it manually, and then start afsd, though
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.writeResilientConfigFile (FileUtil.j ava:354)
[05:28] <nashife>   17.
[05:28] <nashife>   19.
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.save (COConfiguratio nManager.java:218)
[05:28] <nashife>   20.
[05:28] <seth_k> hahahahahahaha
[05:28] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationChecker.checkConfiguratio n (ConfigurationChecker.java:448)
[05:29] <tritium> sheesh
[05:29] <nashife>   21.
[05:29] <nashife>          at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.initialise (Confi gurationManager.java:91)
[05:29] <mame> bddebian, nothing it's just loaded the module ...
[05:29] <seth_k> I told him to use pastebin...
[05:29] <mame> I can see it with lsmod
[05:29] <tritium> no worries
[05:29] <Madpilot> ooops... :)
[05:29] <bddebian> mame: It did load?
[05:29] <seth_k> anyways, nashife, when you get back from quiet, this isn't a java problem
[05:29] <tritium> nashife, sorry, just wanted to quite the channel down a bit
[05:29] <mame> bddebian, maybe i have to restart X ? yes it did
[05:29] <Crisalita> alguien habla espaol?
[05:29] <seth_k> nashife: the error shows that java is installed just fine. The problem is with azureus
[05:29] <tritium> nashife, we'll show you how to use pastebin
[05:30] <bddebian> mame: Yes, try to restart X
[05:30] <D1> can somebody tell me how to play mp3s with xine?
[05:30] <aru> :)
[05:30] <aru> !mp3
[05:30] <ubotu> aru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:30] <mame> back in two minutes
[05:30] <ugo> JDahl: actually thats what i just did
[05:30] <tritium> Crisalita, #ubuntu-es
[05:30] <aru> hmm
[05:30] <D1> !mp3
[05:30] <ugo> JDahl: i ran locate to find the file....
[05:30] <JDahl> ugo, and no errors loading the module or starting afds as root? then you're all done, I think.
[05:31] <heatxsink> tritium, doh
[05:31] <tritium> nashife, you okay there?
[05:31] <ugo> JDahl: i didnt see it
[05:31] <tritium> heatxsink, what's up?
[05:31] <ugo> JDahl: however i did an insmod....that worked
[05:31] <nashife> tritium, I don't know. am I?
[05:31] <heatxsink> tritium, still didn't work
[05:31] <heatxsink> doh
[05:31] <heatxsink> oh well
[05:31] <tritium> nashife, just making sure ;)
[05:31] <ugo> JDahl: i noticed somethings in var messages about missing symbols
[05:31] <seth_k> nashife: did you get azureus from their website?
[05:31] <bddebian> Heya nalioth
[05:31] <mame> back
[05:31] <nashife> seth_k, i got it from synaptic.
[05:32] <nashife> i thin
[05:32] <nashife> k
[05:32] <mame> doesnt work
[05:32] <JDahl> ugo, actually starting afsd is not a good before you've created the cache and made the /afs mount point... AFS is one of the annoying kernel modules where nothing but a reboot will help if you screw up
[05:32] <bddebian> mame: Any luck?
[05:32] <bddebian> Damnit
[05:32] <seth_k> ok, nashife. You're using backports?
[05:32] <JDahl> ugo, s/a good/a good ieda
[05:32] <JDahl> jeez... my keyboard is broken
[05:32] <ugo> JDahl: ok...
[05:32] <Crisalita> thanks tritium
[05:32] <nashife> seth_k, um... I think so? you mean in my repositories, right?
[05:33] <bddebian> mame: Do an "lsmod" and see if you have tsdev, evdev, mouse, and psmouse modules loaded
[05:33] <tritium> Crisalita, no problem.
[05:33] <dapimp53_> kevin: I still get this Makefile.inc:101: *** KERNELPATH: /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386 does not exist.  Stop.
[05:33] <JDahl> ugo, but insmod complained about missing symbols?
[05:33] <the_walrus> Do I have the option of installing Grub at install time with Ubuntu?
[05:33] <bddebian> Hoary > Warty right?  I dunno why I can't keep that straight
[05:33] <ugo> JDahl: ok...however...just tell me the best place to stick this module in lib/modules and i'll take it from there
[05:33] <mame> bddebian, ok
[05:33] <tritium> the_walrus, it's the default boot loader
[05:33] <ugo> JDahl: no insmod worked cleanly...
[05:33] <nashife> seth_k, tritium, should I remove azereus and reinstall it?
[05:33] <the_walrus> sweet, I just killed my slack install trying to get grub working
[05:33] <seth_k> that's right, nashife. You might try removing it and installing directly from azureus' site
[05:34] <kevin> dapimp3: I had the same problem, did you download the linux-headersfor your kernel?
[05:34] <nashife> seth_k, alright i'll try it
[05:34] <ugo> JDahl: arla had issues at that point...i did get a compile with it
[05:34] <seth_k> nashife: the URL is http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download
[05:34] <dapimp53_> yea.
[05:34] <seth_k> nashife: ping me if you need help with this manual install
[05:34] <mame> bddebian, there is no tsdev
[05:34] <tritium> nashife, I haven't been following your conversation, sorry.
[05:34] <dapimp53_> should I remove them and reinstall them
[05:34] <ugo> JDahl: however....when i took a look at /var/log/messages
[05:34] <misfit_toy> the_walrus, slack? why are you in ubuntu?
[05:34] <bddebian> mame: Try to modprobe it
[05:34] <ugo> JDahl: in noticed some symbol complaints...
[05:34] <kevin> try again cos I did it and upon a retry it did it
[05:34] <mame> bddebian, just did it
[05:34] <mame> and it loaded it
[05:34] <nashife> tritium, ok np.  you were just the other person who was sometimes helping me so... kept your name in.
[05:34] <the_walrus> misfit_toy, well, I killed slack, booted into Ubuntu live, and about to install it
[05:34] <mame> restart X ?
[05:34] <the_walrus> Just wanted to make sure it had Grub first
[05:35] <misfit_toy> the_walrus, good idea
[05:35] <JDahl> ugo, copy libafs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/fs/afs.o and use modconf I guess... you can also steal the init scripts from Debian's ancient AFS version - they are pretty good
[05:35] <bddebian> mame: Try it.  You may also need to check your X config to make sure your mouse is using psaux
[05:36] <benplaut> what's the name of that handy little util to change your cursor theme?
[05:36] <dravine> gcursor?
[05:36] <ugo> JDahl: nah forget the symbol stuff...i think those were from alna...i just checked the times
[05:36] <root_> limewire ubuntu
[05:36] <ugo> JDahl: ok...thats a really awesome wrap....
[05:37] <benplaut> dravine: thanks :)
[05:37] <ugo> JDahl: ill work out the rest of the stuff from here....
[05:37] <tritium> benplaut, gcursor?
[05:37] <benplaut> yup
[05:37] <seth_k> nashife: once you download the .tar.bz2 file, stick it in your home. Then, in a terminal, "tar -xvjf blahblahblah.tar.bz2"
[05:37] <dravine> sure thing
[05:37] <JDahl> ugo, later you need to look at /etc/openafs... I dont what make install gave you? but you're almost done, I think... create the cache, and make the /afs directory
[05:37] <ugo> JDahl: where are you....from JDahl....
[05:37] <mame> bddebian, back
[05:37] <tritium> ah, dravine had the answer :)
[05:37] <nickrud> root_, ubuntu gtk-gnutella in universe
[05:37] <mame> but nothing mpre :(
[05:37] <nashife> seth_k, thanks
[05:37] <seth_k> nashife: then cd to the azureus directory and ./azureus to run it
[05:37] <mame> s/mpre/more
[05:37] <JDahl> ugo, from a place called LA
[05:38] <seth_k> i'm sorry this is becoming such a pain for you, nashife. But we'll get it sorted
[05:38] <ugo> JDahl: right im in Pittsburgh....i go to CMU....
[05:38] <nashife> seth_k, the sad part is that I did this before in warty... but it was so long ago i don't remember...
[05:39] <JDahl> ugo, oh... they drafted large parts of AFS, right?
[05:39] <ugo> JDahl: whoops...make install doesn't seem to be installing this stuff to the right place...
[05:39] <nashife> seth_k, i got an error when i entered ./azureus
[05:39] <dravine> how do I tell postgres to not use ident?
[05:39] <seth_k> same error?
[05:39] <ugo> JDahl: yeah...thats where the background knowledge bout how it works comes from
[05:39] <nashife> never got an error before.
[05:39] <seth_k> (this time, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste it there.)
[05:40] <seth_k> unless it's < 4 lines or so
[05:40] <seth_k> then just paste here
[05:40] <ugo> JDahl: i had a distd systems class last sem...we covered afs...unfort the coverage was a little to brief for my liking....
[05:41] <nashife> seth_k, oh i get pastebin now. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/314797
[05:41] <JDahl> ugo, you should have alot of things installed in /usr/local/xxx by now. You dont?
[05:41] <nashife> just says i need to upgrade java i think...
[05:41] <seth_k> yeah... ugh, odd
[05:42] <kevin> dapimp3: did that work?
[05:42] <seth_k> tritium, look at nashife's pastebin. I've never had such issues with azureus
[05:42] <ugo> JDahl: nope...for some reason not at all....
[05:42] <bddebian> mame: Sorry man, you might be over my head on this one. :-(
[05:42] <dapimp53> kevin: I got madwifi to install. I am just rebooting now to finish everything
[05:42] <JDahl> ugo, and you use -prefix with configure?
[05:42] <kevin> okay, awsome
[05:42] <dapimp53> so if I get this to work I dont need all that ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant stuff?
[05:42] <tritium> seth_k, I'll take a look, but I'm not familiar with azureus
[05:42] <nashife> seth_k, is there a way to whipe all that I've done and start from scratch? like, kill all java and azureus?  uninstall? synaptic actually doesn't list azureus so I was wrong about getting it there, so i can't remove it there.
[05:43] <kevin> that's right
[05:43] <dapimp53> sweet
[05:43] <dapimp53> I hope this works
[05:43] <kevin> all you will need is all that is listed
[05:43] <seth_k> nashife: oooh
[05:43] <seth_k> nashife: then let's grab it that way
[05:43] <dapimp53> you going to be around for a bit just in case I need some more help with this
[05:43] <ugo> JDahl: yup to /usr/local
[05:43] <mame> bddebian, ok thanks anyway ....
[05:43] <nashife> oh maybe i spelled it wrong. i was spelling it wrong before
[05:44] <kevin> yes
[05:44] <seth_k> nashife: first, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and look for the backports (especially hoary-extras universe)
[05:44] <tritium> nashife, which java did you install?  Did you build it with java-package?
[05:44] <nashife> seth_k, nevermind. it's listed. i was spelling it wrong.
[05:44] <JDahl> ugo, and you used sudo with make install? strange...
[05:45] <jadugar> Has anyone here been able to upgrade tomboy to 0.2.3 in hoary?
[05:45] <nashife> tritium, i followed the instructions in the link you sent... a page linked to from there about building new versions...
[05:45] <ugo> JDahl: actually im using sudo -s
[05:45] <seth_k> nashife: okay. what version is it? (right click > properties)
[05:45] <tritium> nashife, and you used a command similar to "fakeroot make-jpkg ..." ?
[05:45] <ugo> JDahl: funny huh?
[05:46] <nashife> tritium, yes, i used fakeroot... followed those instructions and it seemed to work.
[05:46] <nashife> seth_k, right-click on what?
[05:46] <seth_k> never mind, I peeked at the version in backports myself
[05:47] <jamie_> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu and I need to know what is the root password?
[05:47] <dapimp53> kevin: does it matter that I use a WPA Key
[05:47] <bddebian> !root
[05:47] <nashife> should I remove azureus and go from a downloaded file again?
[05:47] <ubotu> methinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:47] <nickrud> heh, I'm slow :)
[05:47] <kevin> dapimp3: yes, got into your system and add
[05:47] <jamie_> I will try that
[05:47] <dapimp53> kevin: what do you mean
[05:48] <nickrud> bddebian, I hope that piece of fruit was tasty :)
[05:48] <seth_k> nashife: yeah, it looks like Azureus won't work except with the synaptic version. My best guess is that some other version of Java on your system is what Azureus sees, and not the new 1.5 we just installed
[05:48] <bddebian> nickrud: ??
[05:48] <seth_k> nashife: do you have the sun-whateverit'scalled installed from synaptic? The old version?
[05:48] <nickrud> bddebian, I pick a lot of low hanging fruit around here
[05:48] <kevin> dapimp3 I need someone using the regular desktop, to tell you how to get there
[05:48] <nashife> seth_k, can i remove the wrong version of java? or create simlinks in the place that azureus would look for the right version of java?
[05:49] <JDahl> ugo, yeah... that's odd. Something you could do while you think about that issue is to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs (unfortunately I dont remember the details). I seem to vaguely recall that there was some issues with aklog once you get the other issues solved
[05:49] <bddebian> nickrud: Heh, well it seems to be all I can get.. :-)
[05:49] <tritium> nashife, what is the result of "java -version"?
[05:49] <nickrud> bddebian, it lets the 'ones who know' focus on the good stuff
[05:49] <Kurios> Anyone Reccommend an RSS client for Ubuntu?
[05:49] <dapimp53> kevin: I got the madwifi to install but I still dont have internet connection
[05:49] <nashife> tritium, want the output here?it's 8 lines
[05:49] <nickrud> Kurios, I use liferea
[05:50] <JDahl> ugo, something about having to patch and rebuild aklog for authentication (if you use kerberos)
[05:50] <seth_k> nashife: pastebin ;)
[05:50] <nashife> or just certain info from it?
[05:50] <tritium> nashife, no, pastebin or #flood
[05:50] <kevin> dapimp3: give me 5 mins will boot into gnome
[05:50] <bddebian> nickrud: Nah, let's make up answers. :-)
[05:50] <Kurios> All in favor of Liferea, say "I"
[05:50] <nickrud> Kurios, or, straw, or, ...
[05:51] <nashife> tritium, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/314798
[05:51] <heatxsink> Kurios, liferea
[05:51] <dapimp53> ok
[05:51] <nickrud> bddebian, I've done that enough without trying ;P
[05:51] <bddebian> hehe, amen :-)
[05:51] <heatxsink> I
[05:51] <seth_k> nashife: remove "sun-j2" in synaptic, if you have it (props tritium ;) )
[05:51] <ugo> JDahl: i do use kerberos....life depends on it
[05:51] <tritium> seth_k, :)
[05:51] <nashife> seth_k, ok
[05:51] <JDahl> ugo, I'll be semiafk working, but will be around for another couple of hours, if you get that far
[05:51] <Kurios> Any fans of the Linux Box podcast?
[05:52] <ugo> JDahl: i have the heimdal libraries installed
[05:52] <Kurios> I enjoy but would like something a little less dry
[05:52] <DAC1138> Kurios, yeah, i tried it
[05:52] <ugo> JDahl: right....
[05:52] <DAC1138> Kurios, too...boring
[05:52] <Kurios> or maybe less "read off a sheet of paper-ish"
[05:52] <nashife> seth_k, i removed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5
[05:53] <delltony> hi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful
[05:53] <delltony> hi can any ubuntu/linux gurus help me with a heat issue please my laptop starts out nice and fast running at 59C then it gets up too 76C and stays there with fans running full blast it use to not do that when i first installed Ubuntu. I don't know what the issue is i suspect that there is something wrong with powernowd or cpufreq or something. help would be greatful
[05:53] <seth_k> hm, that was it nashife?
[05:53] <JDahl> ugo, I dont think you want heimdal - dont you just want krb5?
[05:53] <tritium> delltony, please don't do that
[05:53] <JDahl> ugo, I cant remember, actually...
[05:53] <delltony> i didn't mean to
[05:53] <tritium> ok
[05:53] <delltony> it didn't show the first time sorry
[05:53] <tritium> no problem
[05:54] <nashife> seth_k, so my next step is to reinstall java from the bin file like before?
[05:54] <nashife> the azureus installer still gives me the 'you need to upgrade..." error
[05:54] <seth_k> nashife: not quite
[05:54] <seth_k> nashife: first remove package "sablevm" in synaptic (THAT's the solution!)
[05:54] <seth_k> nashife: then reinstall java from the DEB file, not the bin file
[05:54] <bob2> delltony: what have you changed since it last worked?
[05:54] <seth_k> nashife: and you're gold!
[05:55] <tritium> I think you're right, seth_k
[05:55] <delltony> well, i have just updated the kernal i was running initially i386 kernal i changed it to 686 kernal
[05:55] <delltony> then i changed it to smp kernal cause of HT
[05:55] <seth_k> nashife: just make sure you install from the deb you created with "fakeroot make-jpkg..." and not the bin you downloaded from Sun
[05:55] <bob2> delltony: does booting the old one "fix" it?
[05:55] <delltony> thats the only major thing i can think of
[05:56] <nashife> seth_k, ok i'm at that step now
[05:56] <seth_k> tritium: I sure hope I am, b/c otherwise I'm gonna go hide :D
[05:56] <delltony> that i haven't tried but i should do that
[05:56] <delltony> is there a way to cat grub s i can see if i still have the old boot image?
[05:56] <tritium> delltony, if you didn't remove it, it's still there
[05:57] <delltony> yeah i didn't remove it just go back to the first one i assume or last on the list
[05:57] <delltony> ill try that cause like right now its runninga t 70C and i have only been using it for about 10 mins
[05:57] <tritium> delltony, since you asked, the file is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:57] <delltony> thanks
[05:58] <tritium> delltony, you can comment out the "hiddenmenu" line if you want to see the kernel images you have to choose from
[05:58] <kutucape> hi all
[05:58] <delltony> yeah ill try the i386 kernal and see
[05:58] <bddebian> Hello kutucape
[05:58] <delltony> cause like i say it use to run fast and all but its heating up and scaling down
[05:58] <chizang> how do i install w32codecs in hoary? it seems like it's a broken package when i do an apt-get install
[05:59] <kutucape> bddebian, are you using breezy?
[05:59] <chizang> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:59] <chizang> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:59] <chizang> is only available from another source
[05:59] <bddebian> chizang: I blieve you have to get it from backports
[05:59] <ugo> JDahl: well hieimdal is a similar implementation of kerberos
[05:59] <tanki> chizang, isn't that just a zip of dll's that you put in /usr/lib/win32?
[05:59] <bddebian> kutucape: As a matter of fact yes
[05:59] <bob2> chizang: that just means the package doesn't exist
[05:59] <seth_k> chizang: it's in hoary-extras/restricted, in backports
[05:59] <kutucape> bddebian, me too but my X is broken
[05:59] <bob2> chizang: easier to get the .zip file and untar it to /usr/lib/win32/ manually
[05:59] <ugo> JDahl: ill get back to you....i think i need to tweak the config settings
[05:59] <kutucape> i don't know how to fix it
[05:59] <chizang> bob2, where can i get the .zip from?
[05:59] <bddebian> kutucape: X has been up and down recently
[06:00] <bob2> chizang: mplayer.hu
[06:00] <nickrud> lol, is the font thing still left broken?
[06:00] <chizang> ah, ok
[06:00] <seth_k> bob2: easiest to go to a backports mirror and download a deb, then dpkg -i it for easy uninstallation later
[06:00] <ugo> JDahl: on yeah im working with code checked out from cvs....
[06:00] <tanki> bob2, we need some action in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <kutucape> yeah, i know and i get the worse one :D
[06:00] <bddebian> kutucape: Supposedly a fix was uploaded today
[06:00] <nashife> seth_k, it seems to be working!  thank you for sticking with me
[06:00] <tanki> i'm getting dangerously bored my friend
[06:00] <seth_k> nashife: wooooo!
[06:00] <tritium> nashife, yay!
[06:00] <bob2> seth_k: ah, that too
[06:00] <kutucape> bddebian, oh really?
[06:00] <bddebian> nashife: Woohoo.. :-)
[06:00] <bddebian> kutucape: That's what they say in #ubuntu-devel
[06:01] <bob2> tanki: hm?
[06:01] <kutucape> ok, maybe apt-get update will save mine ;)
[06:01] <nashife> i wish I could understand more about what I did... :) i'm glad it's working
[06:01] <seth_k> nashife: sablevm was the culprit. It was keeping Sun's 1.5 Java from working
[06:01] <kutucape> is that right, bddebian ?
[06:01] <tanki> s/actin/activity chatter misc links of booties, whatever floats your boat
[06:01] <KSmurf> anyone know why I was banned?
[06:01] <JDahl> ugo, right.. I think, just stick with kerberos if you can
[06:01] <seth_k> nashife: so basically in the end, we uninstalled sablevm, and installed Sun's Java
[06:01] <nashife> seth_k, what was sablevm anyway?
[06:01] <DAC1138> anyone here using an external usb hard drive?
[06:01] <sizzam> i have mounted some iso's, but im not sure which are still mounted.   is there a command that shows me everything thats currently mounted?
[06:01] <tritium> KSmurf, when?
[06:01] <weis> sizzam, type mount
[06:01] <seth_k> nashife: sablevm is a free java, reverse-engineered.
[06:01] <nickrud> sizzam, mount
[06:01] <bddebian> kutucape: From /topic in #ubuntu-devel : | yes, X is broken.  a fix has already been uploaded.
[06:01] <kutucape> DAC1138, yes I do, i used to use it
[06:01] <weis> it'll list mounted volumes
[06:01] <sizzam> easy enough, thanks
[06:02] <nashife> ahh...  ok. it makes sense.
[06:02] <DAC1138> kutucape, did you have any problems with it?
[06:02] <KSmurf> I came back from supper and noticed I had been booted
[06:02] <seth_k> nashife: Java has a very restrictive license, so it can't be included in ubuntu. hence sablevm
[06:02] <kutucape> bddebian, oh great.. apt-getting...
[06:02] <KSmurf> was It because I was on tor?
[06:02] <DAC1138> kutucape, mine works upon bootup, then after a while it stops working and i can remount it
[06:02] <seth_k> nashife: but sablevm doesn't work very well yet, and only emulates java 1.4. Azureus needs 1.5
[06:02] <seth_k> KSmurf: yes, the freenode network doesn't allow tor
[06:02] <tritium> KSmurf, you're not banned, though
[06:02] <bddebian> nickrud: Nice
[06:02] <DAC1138> kutucape, it sometimes works in windows too. sounds like a flaky drive, but it works perfectly over on a mandrake 10 box
[06:02] <kutucape> DAC1138, nope, it works smooth on my hoary
[06:03] <KSmurf> I changed my use name and disabled tor
[06:03] <kutucape> but i can't write to it :(
[06:03] <DAC1138> huh. weird
[06:03] <nickrud> bddebian, had, have lost, will get back, I want to try breezy once it starts getting towards rc status
[06:03] <KSmurf> sorry
[06:03] <kutucape> just read.. maybe it formattd with ntfs
[06:03] <DAC1138> im going to try building a new kernel, see if that does it
[06:03] <DAC1138> mines fat32
[06:03] <DAC1138> even with ext3 it wasnt readable in ubuntu
[06:03] <ugo> JDahl: did you use exec-prefix
[06:04] <DAC1138> is there a way to scan a drive for bad sectors while installing ubuntu?
[06:04] <ugo> JDahl: i think that may have been it.....
[06:04] <bob2> tor is banned due to abuse this morning
[06:04] <kutucape> DAC1138, i think you have remount it with -oremount -t ext3? CMIIW
[06:04] <tritium> bob2, what happened?
[06:04] <kevin_> dapimp3: go to computer, then to networking and doan add, and put in your wep key
[06:05] <JDahl> ugo, ah no... that's probably it - I never installed it, just build it
[06:05] <kutucape> DAC1138, you can try with livecd first
[06:05] <bob2> tritium: someone was banned for ascii crapflooding, so they joined using tor and started making GNAA comments
[06:05] <kutucape> from livecd you can check your harrdrive
[06:05] <dapimp53> kevin_: its not a WEP key its a WPA key
[06:05] <tritium> bob2, in #ubuntu specifically?
[06:05] <DAC1138> kutucape, okay, but ubuntu is already installed, im running it now, cant i just scan it here?
[06:05] <kevin_> still go into there and do it
[06:05] <bob2> tritium: yes
[06:06] <kutucape> nope, you can't
[06:06] <DAC1138> kutucape, i want to scan the usb drive, not this hard drive
[06:06] <dapimp53> and I just enter my paraphrase?
[06:06] <DAC1138> i still need the live cd?
[06:06] <kutucape> scan only works if read only mode
[06:06] <DAC1138> ah, okay
[06:06] <kutucape> yes, that's the safe way
[06:06] <kevin_> I guess dude, mine worked right off
[06:06] <ugo> JDahl: i should buy you a beer...
[06:06] <kevin_> and you have done a reboot?
[06:06] <DAC1138> so i do "mount /dev/sdc1 /media/drivename -oremount -t vfat" ?
[06:06] <dapimp53> yes
[06:06] <Ex-Cyber> DAC1138: for drive testing you're probably better off using a utility from the manufacturer
[06:07] <DAC1138> its got fat32 currently
[06:07] <dapimp53> I just finished one
[06:07] <kutucape> DAC1138, oh, you can do this..
[06:07] <dapimp53> it tells me my ath0 is down now
[06:07] <kutucape> what type of filesystem do you have on usb harddisk?
[06:07] <DAC1138> Ex-Cyber, i cant even find the manufacturer. its a firestorm case with a toshiba drive
[06:07] <kevin_> ok open a term and see what dmesg says
[06:07] <JDahl> ugo, already covered there... besides I am home alone, so not much better to do
[06:07] <bob2> kutucape: people generally use fat32, so other OSs can read it
[06:07] <DAC1138> kutucape, its fat32 currently
[06:08] <DAC1138> yeah, i need fat32, but i tried ext3 to see if it would work with ubuntu (which is messing it up)
[06:08] <kutucape> hmm, it's better you check with WIndows OS too, CMIIW
[06:08] <dapimp53> kevin_: what are you looking for specifically
[06:08] <DAC1138> it needs to be able to be read on the macs at school and on my windows box here and linux laptop
[06:08] <Velcan> en i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?
[06:08] <DAC1138> kutucape, windows wouldnt work
[06:08] <kutucape> because fat32 is windows file system
[06:08] <kutucape> hmm, strange...
[06:08] <mitch528> can someone help me install winex?
[06:08] <kevin_> or even do an iwlist scan to see if it sees your wireless router
[06:08] <DAC1138> kutucape, windows wont detect the drive sometimes, and when it does, it says "scandisk could not complete the scan"
[06:09] <bob2> weis: when did you order them?
[06:09] <ugo> JDahl: damm! there was something you mentioned about configure and symlinks right?
[06:09] <weis> 5 weeks ago
[06:09] <kutucape> well, i guess it become flaky
[06:09] <weis> but they shipped on the 28th
[06:09] <Velcan> mitch528:  www.transgaming.com cedega is great
[06:09] <ugo> JDahl: i think i just hit that now....
[06:09] <kutucape> mine is burn :(
[06:09] <weis> just waiting for them to come in the mail
[06:09] <tritium> weis, did you check shipit?  did they already ship?
[06:09] <DAC1138> kutucape, but it works perfectly in mandrake 10
[06:09] <kutucape> i think usb harddisk is vunerable...
[06:09] <DAC1138> kutucape, its mounted right now
[06:09] <weis> they did ship, yes
[06:09] <bddebian> USB sucks
[06:10] <DAC1138> bddebian, thanks for your input, some people dont have a choise to use usb
[06:10] <bddebian> Don't have a choice?
[06:10] <bddebian> There's always a choice :-)
[06:10] <dapimp53> kevin_: yes it does
[06:10] <ugo> JDahl: what was the file again?
[06:10] <DAC1138> bddebian, alright, i know there are firewire pci cards, but belive me, I HAVE NO CHOICE!!!
[06:10] <kevin_> ok, then go into computer, networking and set it up
[06:10] <JDahl> ugo, I dont you would be able to run ./configure-afslib without fixing it - src/afslib/Makefile.in is missing, but you can symlink to src/afslib/MakefileProto.LINUX
[06:11] <dapimp53> I tried but it still doesnt work
[06:11] <britt_radiofree> does apt-get install realplayer break for everyone and is there a place to get newer libc without breaking all?
[06:11] <DAC1138> bddebian, so lets not get into a firewire/usb debate
[06:11] <jamie_> I still don't have the correct root password, what else can I try?
[06:11] <dapimp53> do you use WPA on your wireless?
[06:11] <britt_radiofree> i really need to watch a few real videos
[06:11] <bddebian> DAC1138: And that statement wasn't meant to offend, just that USB should be restricted to keyboards and mice IMHO. :-)
[06:11] <desrt> DAC1138; no debate.  usb sucks.
[06:11] <desrt> DAC1138; usb 2 is practically useless
[06:11] <kevin_> no, I don't at this time
[06:11] <bddebian> jamie_: There is no root password.  Use the password that you gave when you installed if using sudo and such
[06:11] <ugo> JDahl: right thats exactly what i was looking for
[06:11] <dapimp53> See I think that is my problem
[06:12] <DAC1138> yeah, its only goot for thumb drives, mice, keyboards, bluttooth adapters, usb ethernet adapters, yeah, sounds useless
[06:12] <DAC1138> good*
[06:12] <dapimp53> I dont know how to configure it with the WPA key
[06:12] <kevin_> I am looking
[06:12] <desrt> i'd be happy if i could get a firewire thumb drive
[06:12] <bddebian> USB ethernet sucks too
[06:12] <dapimp53> I tried the WEP key but it causes some problems on the other computers on the network
[06:12] <bddebian> desrt: Amen
[06:12] <DAC1138> bddebian, man, you're not happy with anything
[06:12] <desrt> DAC1138; he's happy with firewire :)
[06:12] <bddebian> DAC1138: I'm very happy with the 10 machines I have running here, none of them using USB devices :-)
[06:12] <desrt> anyone who has used a significant amount of firewire gear is bound to hate usb
[06:12] <desrt> it's just the way it goes :)
[06:12] <jamie_> I don't think it ask me for the root password, it just went into installing the users.
[06:13] <DAC1138> kutucape, so anyway, its running on mandrake.ive been trying to set that up as a way to access my drive through the network
[06:13] <desrt> bddebian; what do you use for keyboards?
[06:13] <desrt> adb? :P
[06:13] <tritium> jamie_, there is no root password.
[06:13] <bddebian> jamie_: Did you read that link?  We don't use root
[06:13] <bddebian> desrt: PS/2 what else? ;-P
[06:13] <desrt> die. :P
[06:13] <DAC1138> kutucape, but ubuntu wont access any windows computers on the network or the mandrake box. its visible, but not browsable
[06:13] <desrt> ps/2 is definitely worse than usb :)
[06:13] <bddebian> Heh
[06:13] <IIIEars> bddebian - 10 machines. at home? (only four here. - lol)
[06:13] <kevin_> dapimp3: try googling for the answer, it is probably something simple
[06:14] <desrt> if you could IPs, i have 7 machines here.. but counting IPs can be deceptive
[06:14] <IIIEars> <<-- my electric bill is amazing. - rofl
[06:14] <desrt> *count
[06:14] <Velcan> en i have teamspeak on i cannot hear ingame sound. anyone familliar with how to fix this?
[06:14] <bddebian> IIIEars: Tell me about it.  I finally shut down the Proliant 1500 I was running cause it wasa pig
[06:14] <i3dmaster> just upgraded to breezy, everything is ok but the right click menu, I did not see "open terminal" on there anymore, anyone knows how to add it back?
[06:14] <desrt> so guys
[06:15] <desrt> can i get any programs for ubuntu to scam the power company?
[06:15] <nickrud> heh
[06:15] <ugo> JDahl: that should be libafs...
[06:15] <sizzam> yea, check out gnuLectric
[06:15] <desrt> sizzam; can't find it.  is it in multiverse or something?
[06:15] <nickrud> $411 last month, I could use some help
[06:15] <dapimp53> kevin_: I found this to add pre-up wpa_supplicant -B -i ath0 -d <your_supported_wlan_card_type>
[06:15] <sizzam> hmm, try apt-get update  ;-)
[06:15] <dapimp53> what is the supported wlan card type
[06:16] <IIIEars> bddebian - just curious do you use disk image backups? if so what app do you like best?
[06:16] <kevin_> ok, I am looking at google now
[06:16] <desrt> dapimp53; if you're using atheros, it's madwifi
[06:16] <bddebian> IIIEars: No sorry.  I have varying OSs.  4 Windows, 3 Hurd, 1 Debian GNU/Linux and 1 Ubuntu
[06:17] <dapimp53> so I just put madwifi there?
[06:17] <desrt> "-dmadwifi"
[06:17] <ksmurf> I got my wifes' wireless card up but I notice It seems to operate in bursts.  It is a DWL-G520.   Any suggestions.  Someone mentioned the madwifi driver.
[06:17] <desrt> ya
[06:17] <desrt> ksmurf; i have the same card.
[06:17] <desrt> ksmurf; i find that keeping ping going in the background helps a lot
[06:17] <desrt> keeps the interface awake or something :)
[06:18] <kevin_> ty desrt
[06:18] <zenlunatic> sounds like a nasty hack
[06:18] <desrt> kevin_; do you find that it randomly freezes up your laptop and you need to pull/reinsert the card? :)
[06:18] <desrt> i'd love a solution to that particular issue :)
[06:19] <IIIEars> hehe - yep, same here mixed bunch of OS'es - really looking for a way to distribute images for bare metal restore.
[06:19] <elmagozizou> Im just wondering..in linux we dont have to defrag?
[06:19] <desrt> elmagozizou; the ext2 file system does a good job of keeping itself defragmented
[06:19] <kevin_> nope
[06:19] <desrt> elmagozizou; if you're really concerned then every 2 or 3 years tar up the filesystem, erase all the files, then reextract it :)
[06:19] <kevin_> desrt: no problems with it
[06:20] <desrt> O_o
[06:20] <kevin_> the only freeze up is when I open too many windows lol
[06:20] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , how do i do that?
[06:21] <desrt> elmagozizou; tar czvf /path/to/file.tar.gz *
[06:21] <desrt> to create file.tar.gz out of the contents of the current dir
[06:21] <ksmurf> desrt do u ping the wap evry 5 secs with a scipt?
[06:21] <desrt> actually, use . instead of * ... then you'll get hidden too
[06:21] <dapimp53> kevin_:  I got it to  work!!! It was a combination of WPAsup and the madwifi
[06:21] <dapimp53> thanks man
[06:21] <desrt> ksmurf; nah.  just run ping in a term :)
[06:21] <Vantage__> anyone here successfully used bootcd and ubuntu hoary?
[06:21] <dapimp53> does anyone how to change the boot order of Grub
[06:21] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , no I mean the file system...
[06:21] <desrt> dapimp53; edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:21] <kevin_> kool dapimp3 awsome dude!!
[06:22] <ksmurf> is there a way to timeit?
[06:22] <tanki> howdy kevin
[06:22] <desrt> elmagozizou; oh.  mke2fs
[06:22] <desrt> elmagozizou; use with extreme care :)
[06:22] <tanki> and mr smurf
[06:22] <kevin_> hey tanki
[06:22] <ksmurf> Tanki
[06:22] <kevin_> <--- brb needs a walking break
[06:23] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , but that no for making ex2 floppies?
[06:23] <desrt> elmagozizou; also, you probably want -j if you're creating new filesystems... makes them ext3
[06:23] <tanki> you both should come to #ubuntu-offtopic, take your shoes off, order a drink, chill
[06:23] <desrt> elmagozizou; it's for making all filesystems
[06:23] <desrt> elmagozizou; i really don't recommend that you do this...
[06:23] <desrt> elmagozizou; fragmentation is seriously not a problem
[06:23] <elmagozizou> ok.
[06:23] <dapimp53> desrt: how do I make my windows the defualt
[06:23] <desrt> dapimp53; just move it up in the order
[06:24] <IIIEars> !grub
[06:24] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , maybe you now...where are all the packages that i donload throu synaptic or apt-get
[06:24] <desrt> dapimp53; or modify the "default" line
[06:24] <IIIEars> !dualboot
[06:24] <desrt> elmagozizou; all over the place
[06:24] <Vantage__> dapimp53: set the default to the number it is in the order (starting from 0)
[06:24] <nickrud> elmagozizou, /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:24] <IIIEars> Ubotu is taking some time off i guess
[06:24] <desrt> elmagozizou; the package files are sometimes cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:24] <Computer__Guru> this is gonna seem like a weird question
[06:24] <desrt> elmagozizou; but in general, if you want to find out where the files of a specific package are installed, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list
[06:25] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , No but I mean if y want to burn then on a CD to take them to another computer that dont have internet conection
[06:25] <chris_> is enabling root an easy thing to explain here? I would like to enable that account and use it.
[06:25] <desrt> elmagozizou; /var/cache/apt/archives then
[06:25] <Computer__Guru> but where owuld i find the .config file that they used when they made the ubuntu syste,? or is it vanilla (all dfaults)?
[06:25] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[06:25] <ubotu> from memory, dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm "", or "" !grub""
[06:25] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:25] <desrt> elmagozizou; make sure you get all the dependencies
[06:25] <desrt> ubotu, botsnack
[06:25] <ubotu> thanks desrt :)
[06:25] <nickrud> chris_, sudo passwd root, enter your user password (if it asks), then enter the new root password
[06:25] <kevin_> <--- is back
[06:25] <seth_k> chris_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:25] <IIIEars> Welcome back ubotu :)
[06:26] <IIIEars> !grub
[06:26] <desrt> ubotu, status
[06:26] <ubotu> well, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[06:26] <chris_> thenks!
[06:26] <sizzam> what's everyone's favorite ftp client?
[06:26] <desrt> hmm.  i love infobots :)
[06:26] <Computer__Guru> gftp
[06:26] <nickrud> nautilus
[06:26] <nickrud> for ftp
[06:26] <kevin_> gftp here
[06:26] <IIIEars> infobots are nice
[06:26] <bddebian> Gnight folks.  Enjoy
[06:26] <sizzam> i can't get used to  gftp
[06:26] <cafuego> !forums 38398
[06:26] <Computer__Guru> where would i get the kernel config file for the shipped-with-hoary kernel?
[06:26] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 38398 is: Ubuntu Forums - Dual Boot with windows: where to put the boot loader?
[06:26] <sizzam> im used to filezilla on windows
[06:27] <sizzam> although filezilla is coming to linux
[06:27] <drcodedd2> hi all
[06:27] <kevin_> yes it is soon
[06:27] <nickrud> heh, now that is a very obscure ubotu reference :)
[06:27] <the_walrus> I just installed, and its booted into X, apparently I only have 9MB mem free, out of 1gig
[06:27] <drcodedd2> any one mybe know about fax/voice answer machine client server for linux - ubuntu
[06:27] <cafuego> the_walrus: Yes, that's fine.
[06:27] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , sorry but they are not in there
[06:27] <drcodedd2> I Want to use my linux server as answer machine to fax/voice
[06:27] <desrt> elmagozizou; they get cleaned up after a while
[06:27] <Computer__Guru> i have a simple question about kernel config and no answers
[06:27] <desrt> elmagozizou; it's just a cache
[06:27] <the_walrus> cafuego, 9MB free, out of 1gig? That doesn't really seem fine
[06:27] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , mmmm...
[06:27] <drcodedd2> and my windows to get those fax/voice mail?
[06:28] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , thnks
[06:28] <nickrud> the_walrus, most of that is cache or such, linux tries to use all your mem well
[06:28] <desrt> elmagozizou; what's with the #5 business?
[06:28] <cafuego> the_walrus: linux is not as stupid as Windows. it's using your "free" ram as disk cache. When an application needs it, it will be freed.
[06:28] <IIIEars> drcodded2 - that sounds like a good idea. - voice message boxes are very handy
[06:28] <the_walrus> cafuego, ok, that makes more sense, just seems unusual, never had a linux box doing this before
[06:28] <flodine> what do i need to load for a tar file to work
[06:28] <drcodedd2> IIIEars, is there somthing for linux /
[06:28] <desrt> the_walrus; yes you have :)
[06:28] <drcodedd2> that I Can use?
[06:28] <elmagozizou> #5 desrt , I am trying to do what ure doing with me...I mean that i see your message in red
[06:29] <desrt> elmagozizou; oh.  that's just notification.
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> where do i find the shipped-with-hoary kernel config file?
[06:29] <elmagozizou> I guest is not that way
[06:29] <desrt> elmagozizou; it happens because i put your nick at the beginning of the message
[06:29] <the_walrus> desrt, I've never had a linux box showing this much mem in use, before I installed, my system was showing about 270MB used
[06:29] <nickrud> Computer__Guru, /boot/config-your-kernel-version
[06:29] <tritium> Computer__Guru, /boot
[06:29] <IIIEars> drcodded2 - there must be be sounds like a common request
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> ty
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> that's all i wanted to know, heh
[06:29] <elmagozizou> desrt, like this?
[06:29] <desrt> the_walrus; well.... it's definitely a good thing :)
[06:29] <cafuego> the_walrus: Was that via 'free' or via other utils?
[06:29] <the_walrus> Cool :)
[06:29] <desrt> elmagozizou; yes.  now you show up in yellow for me
[06:30] <the_walrus> via /proc/meminfo
[06:30] <IIIEars> freshmeat.org or sourceforge.org is where to look
[06:30] <the_walrus> same as I'm lookingat now
[06:30] <desrt> the_walrus; use 'free'
[06:30] <drcodedd2> thanx
[06:30] <ubuntu_phil> can someone help me out with cd burning. cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus is not working and i don't know what else to do (gnomebaker, graveman do not work)
[06:30] <elmagozizou> desrt; and here?
[06:30] <the_walrus>              total       used       free
[06:30] <the_walrus> Mem:        906660     901504       5156
[06:30] <desrt> elmagozizou; yup
[06:30] <the_walrus> ahh, the next line makes sens
[06:30] <the_walrus> e
[06:30] <elmagozizou> red?
[06:30] <cafuego> the_walrus: Then my guess is that you previously had buggy vm behaviour.
[06:30] <desrt> the_walrus; ya.  it's nice.
[06:30] <elmagozizou> desrt; red?
[06:30] <desrt> elmagozizou; yellow
[06:30] <the_walrus> I probably screwed up my kernel compile somehow
[06:30] <desrt> elmagozizou; it's something that my client does.  you have no control over it
[06:31] <elmagozizou> ahh ok...
[06:31] <nickrud> ubuntu_phil, I've given up: I use dd to get a disk if I want to copy it, and use nautilus-cd-burner for writing data. I don't wirte music.
[06:31] <sizzam> i have two hard drives.   the second gets mounted as /home.  i think my primary drive is going to crash soon. whats the best way to get all that data onto the /home drive and use it as the sole hd?
[06:31] <desrt> elmagozizou; and likewise, i have no control over what colour your client makes me show up as
[06:31] <elmagozizou> desrt; ahh ok
[06:31] <firestorm> Hi. I've installed CUPS in Ubuntu but when I try adding a printer the username/password combo I try doesn't work. I've already typed lppasswd -a root  .. any hints?
[06:31] <cafuego> the_walrus: Yes, you forgot to enable HIGHMEM 4GB
[06:31] <desrt> firestorm; the web interface is disabled
[06:31] <elmagozizou> desrt; thanks for the atention
[06:31] <nickrud> firestorm, try using system-administration-printing
[06:31] <desrt> firestorm; you're supposed to use the gnome printer utilities
[06:31] <cafuego> the_walrus: looks like your kerel didn't find all ram (or do you have integrated vga?)
[06:32] <nickrud> firestorm, top menu bar
[06:32] <the_walrus> cafuego, I always wondered what that did
[06:32] <desrt> firestorm; if you want the web interface back you have to modify the cups config file
[06:32] <firestorm> nickrud: erm using KDE now....is there a Gnome command from a shell I can type?
[06:32] <the_walrus> cafuego, I dont have integrated mem, I should have a gig of mem there :/
[06:32] <cafuego> the_walrus: Without that option you can only access about 986 or so MB ram.
[06:32] <elmagozizou> desrt; hey are u there?
[06:32] <firestorm> desrt: I can access http://localhost:631 but just cannot add printers...asks for a username/password which denies me
[06:32] <cafuego> the_walrus: Then yeah, you need to set HIGHMEM to 4, recompile and reboot.
[06:32] <elmagozizou> desrt; I have an problem with mplayer
[06:32] <the_walrus> crap
[06:32] <elmagozizou> desrt; maybe you can help me...
[06:33] <desrt> firestorm; gnome-cups-manager
[06:33] <cafuego> the_walrus: Precompiled ubuntu kernels already have that enabled.
[06:33] <the_walrus> cafuego, then why do I only have 900MB of ram or so it tells me?
[06:33] <desrt> the_walrus; 900 exactly?
[06:33] <desrt> the_walrus; or 890?
[06:33] <nickrud> firestorm, gnome-cups-manager
[06:33] <cafuego> the_walrus: You on the -386 installer kernel still?
[06:34] <the_walrus> cafuego, I just installed, so I'm not sure
[06:34] <the_walrus> I haven't had a chance to play yet
[06:34] <desrt> cafuego; the -386 kernels installed by default don't support himem systems (ie: any more than 890 megs of ram)
[06:34] <cafuego> the_walrus: Then yes. Install a kernel for your cpu and you'll be fine.
[06:34] <desrt> *er
[06:34] <desrt> the_walrus rather
[06:34] <the_walrus> cheers guys
[06:34] <desrt> cha
[06:35] <desrt> elmagozizou; i don't really use mplayer... but ask your question... maybe someone else knows
[06:35] <billytwowilly> what's the mplayer question?
[06:35] <cafuego> the_walrus: 'apt-cache search linux-image' should give you  alist of kernels to pick from.
[06:35] <kevin_> well later folks it is time for me to go and have a shower, then head off to bed. Cheers and have a great night!!
[06:35] <firestorm> nickrud, desrt: excelelnt, been able to add a printer, print a test page with gnome-cups-manager....now, how can I set it up so that I could do the same with CUPS web interface?
[06:36] <the_walrus> cafuego, thanks, I was just googling that
[06:36] <desrt> kevin_; cha.
[06:36] <cafuego> the_walrus: -686 for p2,p3,p4. k7 for athlon.
[06:36] <desrt> the_walrus; don't install the -image package
[06:36] <nickrud> firestorm, sudo adduser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, then go to localhost:631
[06:36] <elmagozizou> billytwowilly, I have a problem with mplayer, I think with the nvidia configuration
[06:36] <desrt> install linux-686 or linux-k7 or whatever... it pulls in the correct image package, plus the extra modules you need
[06:36] <the_walrus> excellent
[06:37] <billytwowilly> elmagozizou, the nvidia configuration? just use -vo xv
[06:37] <nickrud> firestorm, after you're done, sudo deluser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart , for security
[06:37] <the_walrus> 686-smp for p4 with HT?
[06:37] <billytwowilly> elmagozizou, if that doesn't work than your nvidia card isn't configured properly in x.
[06:37] <desrt> the_walrus; HT is currently off for security reasons
[06:37] <the_walrus> oh, i remember reading that
[06:38] <desrt> you can reenable it by modifying grub config
[06:38] <Madpilot> hi all... is it possible to update Hoary's version of Screem with the stable version from the Screem website? Screem keeps freezing on me...
[06:38] <desrt> just add "ht=on" to the commandline
[06:38] <elmagozizou> billytwowilly, My nvidia card is fine... I couldt run 3ddesktop until i install the nvidia module etc...
[06:38] <firestorm> nickrud: ok, and what username/password do I use for the htaccess prompt at localhost:631/admin ?
[06:39] <nickrud> ah
[06:39] <the_walrus> Thanks desrt
[06:39] <elmagozizou> billytwowilly, but now mplayer show me an error, and I can play anything
[06:39] <tritium> firestorm, that's disabled
[06:39] <desrt> it's only a problem if you don't trust the other users of your machine
[06:39] <the_walrus> i'm the only user
[06:39] <billytwowilly> elmagozizou, what error? pm it to me please.
[06:39] <desrt> do you trust yourself? :)
[06:39] <nickrud> firestorm, you need a root password to use a web admin tool
[06:39] <elmagozizou> billytwowilly, let me put the error to you in private
[06:39] <nickrud> ubotu, tell firestorm about rootsudo
[06:39] <the_walrus> not really :) every reinstall is because I've broken something
[06:39] <sproingie> wow, take 2 on openoffice and it still manages to infuriate me
[06:40] <desrt> the_walrus; take yourself out of the sudoers file, then :)
[06:40] <desrt> the_walrus; alot harder to break stuff :)
[06:40] <ugo> JDahl: hey...whats that patch you were talking about for krb5...i think im going to need it
[06:40] <the_walrus> desrt, where's the fun in that though ;)
[06:40] <cafuego> Nore to the point, you don't need a web admin tool.
[06:40] <desrt> the_walrus; the fun is in trying to hax0r your way back in :)
[06:41] <the_walrus> heh, thats a good point
[06:41] <firestorm> nickrud: I tried the root username/password but it didn't work
[06:41] <tritium> firestorm, as I told you, it's disabled
[06:41] <cafuego> firestorm: There is no root password.
[06:41] <cafuego> !root password
[06:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.
[06:41] <adwait> aloha ppl
[06:41] <nickrud> heh
[06:42] <desrt> oh!  awesome idea
[06:42] <nickrud> several things here: gnome-cups-manager is not as flexible as localhost:631
[06:42] <JDahl> ugo, you dont need to worry about until everything else is setup... I think the you might need to build your own aklog for authentication to work, but you can setup everything else first and test that you can list directories etc.
[06:42] <desrt> i should extend my passwordless sudo thing to work with ssh-agent
[06:42] <desrt> that would rule
[06:42] <sproingie> how do i convince openoffice to put 1+ in a table cell without it thinking i *really* wanted a right-justified number 1?
[06:42] <nickrud> two, web admin tools exist, and sudo does not work with them
[06:42] <Vacendak> Just finished first Ubuntu install. Whats root password?
[06:42] <desrt> "1+" work?
[06:43] <desrt> hahahah
[06:43] <the_walrus> sproingie, its under format, set the cell type to text
[06:43] <sproingie> desrt: i don't want it in quotes
[06:43] <desrt> !root password
[06:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu has no root password. If sudo or gksu are asking for a password, they mean _your_ password.
[06:43] <tritium> Vacendak, there is none
[06:43] <imaek> Does anyone know of a manga viewer for linux?
[06:43] <desrt> that comes in handy :)
[06:43] <sproingie> desrt: i want it to stop second-guessing me
[06:43] <Vacendak> Cool. Thanks
[06:43] <desrt> sproingie; just thinking maybe the quotes would make it stop second-guessing you :)
[06:43] <eyda|mon> is there a seperate sources.list for amd64 bit ubuntu? if so where can I find what it is?
[06:43] <desrt> eyda|mon; do you have amd64 installed?
[06:43] <Vacendak> Works perfect. Thanks Again
[06:44] <eyda|mon> desrt: nope, I just swapped mobo and cpu  though
[06:44] <desrt> eyda|mon; fairly sure it's just the same file...
[06:44] <ugo> JDahl: well the issue right now is a compilation failure because some kerberos function calls are missing
[06:44] <firestorm> nickrud, and others: thanks, didn't realise ubuntu was root-passwordless
[06:44] <nickrud> firestorm, if you really want to use the localhost:631 from the web, then do sudo passwd root , and create a root password
[06:44] <desrt> my sources.list contains no mention of powerpc
[06:44] <eyda|mon> desrt: so nothing optimized for 64bit?
[06:44] <desrt> eyda|mon; it automatically detects your arch and installs accordingly
[06:44] <ugo> checking for krb5_princ_size... no
[06:44] <ugo> checking for krb5_principal_get_comp_string... no
[06:44] <ugo> checking for krb5_524_convert_creds... no
[06:44] <ugo> checking for krb524_convert_creds_kdc... no
[06:44] <sproingie> desrt: yes, but it puts it in quotes then
[06:44] <eyda|mon> desrt: cool
[06:44] <ugo> apparently those are the culprints
[06:45] <sproingie> fuck it.  word works under wine
[06:45] <desrt> eyda|mon; or, rather, apt just knows
[06:45] <eyda|mon> desrt: what does your uname -a say?
[06:45] <chaps0063> bob2: hey bob, you there?
[06:45] <desrt> eyda|mon; which box?
[06:45] <bob2> chaps0063: ?
[06:45] <eyda|mon> desrt: uname -m actually. on your ppc ?
[06:45] <sproingie> maybe kword won't try to be too smart for me
[06:45] <tritium> nickrud, does that work for you?
[06:45] <ugo> JDahl: i did a compile and noticed the errors were as a result...thing is i need kerberos because andrew afs works with it...
[06:46] <firestorm> nickrud: If I've sudo passwd root then how can I later undo it to disable root login?
[06:46] <desrt> eyda|mon; ppc for one, ppc64 for the other
[06:46] <JDahl> ugo, hmm... that's not what I was thinking of. But you were able to build it before, right? just with a different prefix...
[06:46] <chaps0063> bob2: I've decided, I'm just going to format, the apache error was too weird, I was just getting started on this install anyways..
[06:46] <Madpilot> sproingie: lead your cell with a single quote -- ' -- and it'll treat it as a pure text string.
[06:46] <ugo> JDahl: yeah...it built alright...
[06:46] <Madpilot> I use it to keep OO from fscking with my date formats...
[06:46] <bob2> chaps0063: that seems like rather massive overkill
[06:46] <eyda|mon> desrt: apt might be using the info from uname -m ... or some other kernel info. Maybe all I need to do is up the kernel.
[06:46] <nickrud> tritium, yes, I actually use it mostly so I can pick the name of my printers, and not be limited to gnome-cups-manager's names
[06:46] <desrt> eyda|mon; i really don't know.  i think it might just be built-in to apt
[06:46] <tritium> nickrud, cool
[06:47] <firestorm> nickrud: sorry, found it in RootSudo wiki :)
[06:47] <sproingie> Madpilot: it keeps the single quote
[06:47] <chaps0063> bob2: I come from a long time of using windows...lol, formatting is no problem!
[06:47] <desrt> eyda|mon; my ppc64 mac has a ppc64 kernel on it, and apt still knows to download powerpc packages
[06:47] <Madpilot> sproingie: really? what else is in the cell?
[06:47] <ugo> JDahl: but i have to specifically enable kerberos during the config...
[06:47] <sproingie> Madpilot: i entered '1+, and the cell now contains '1+
[06:47] <chaps0063> bob2: I was used to formatting every two weeks.
[06:47] <chaps0063> lol
[06:47] <sproingie> Madpilot: i want it to contain 1+
[06:47] <ugo> JDahl: ./configure-libafs --with-linux-kernel-header=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5 --with-krb5 --prefix=/usr/local/ --exec-prefix=/usr/local/
[06:47] <desrt> Linux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[06:47] <sproingie> Madpilot: i have similar issues with 2/
[06:47] <desrt> ^^ downloads powerpc
[06:48] <Madpilot> sproingie: have you asked on #openoffice.org?
[06:48] <sproingie> Madpilot: ah, that's the channel name
[06:48] <ugo> JDahl: somedays you gotta love this os....
[06:48] <JDahl> ugo, I am not sure, but I dont think I used --with-krb5 when I built it, and maybe it doesnt matter for the client - I definitely matters for the server
[06:49] <JDahl> it matters for the server...
[06:49] <Madpilot> sproingie: on my Hoary install of OO, entering '1+ in a cell displays 1+ in the cell...
[06:49] <desrt> Madpilot; spreadsheet or wordprocessor?
[06:49] <eyda|mon> desrt: well, ppc64 is still powerpc so I'm not surprised
[06:49] <Madpilot> sproingie: spreadsheet
[06:49] <desrt> eyda|mon; amd64 is still 386...
[06:49] <JDahl> ugo, and yes, afs is way to complicated to use on linux - I dont what happened; it wasnt always this hard
[06:49] <desrt> Madpilot; i think he wants it for a table in the wordprocessor
[06:50] <chaps0063> so bob2, would you recommend apache2 or apache on this next install?
[06:50] <sproingie> Madpilot: it leaves the single quote in in the word proc
[06:50] <Madpilot> desrt: ah, different prob. haven't used tables in OO Text yet
[06:50] <firestorm> One thing I have noticed is that general users can't really select COLOUR or B&W when printing. Seems as though admin enables one or the other from admin tools. Any userspace workaround?
[06:50] <bob2> chaps0063: apache2
[06:50] <eyda|mon> desrt: no. uname -m shows amd64 for those who have it.
[06:50] <sproingie> desrt: smart
[06:50] <eyda|mon> desrt: not i686
[06:50] <chaps0063> bob2: ok, and what would be the proper command for apache2, php, mysql to install.
[06:51] <desrt> eyda|mon; and uname -m shows ppc64 for me
[06:51] <desrt> not ppc
[06:51] <chaps0063> and DAMN there is a good ass storm coming.
[06:51] <sproingie> desrt: i used to prefer abiword ... back in the day when it wasn't crashy as hell
[06:51] <desrt> Linux velocity.desrt.ca 2.6.12-3-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:17:11 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[06:51] <eyda|mon> desrt: I think apt would be clever enough to deduce that to be ppc tho :P
[06:51] <eyda|mon> not that far off
[06:51] <tritium> firestorm, can you setup separate printers, one b&w and one color?
[06:51] <desrt> sproingie; ya.. abiword has some stability issues... it's getting better again lately, though
[06:51] <ugo> JDahl: do you use kerberos?
[06:51] <desrt> eyda|mon; i seriously think it's just built-in
[06:51] <bob2> chaps0063: as I gave you earlier
[06:52] <chaps0063> bob2: ok..is it possible we could revisit that command as I did not save it?
[06:52] <eyda|mon> desrt: how would it know what packages to download if there's no indication that you have a ppc? It has to guess it somehow, right? uname -m seems reasonable enough
[06:52] <desrt> eyda|mon; no mention of 'uname' in the source of apt, except in the autoconf stuff
[06:52] <eyda|mon> desrt: well, /proc/cpuinfo then
[06:52] <desrt> eyda|mon; because apt is a powerpc binary
[06:52] <bob2> chaps0063: sudo aptitude install mysql-server php4-mysql apache2 libapache2-mod-php4
[06:52] <desrt> it's a chicken-and-egg t hing
[06:52] <desrt> and you wouldn't use /proc/cpuinfo
[06:52] <bob2> chaps0063: I assume; you never did say what you meant by "mysql".
[06:53] <firestorm> tritium: good idea
[06:53] <desrt> eyda|mon; apt knows to download for powerpc because apt itself is for powerpc
[06:53] <chaps0063> bob2: php and mysql.
[06:53] <eyda|mon> desrt: so you're theorizing there's no way to convert a 32-bit installation to a 64-bit?
[06:53] <bob2> chaps0063: I don't know what that means.
[06:53] <firestorm> tritium: and is it possible for users to get a nice print dialog instead of manually typing in 'lpr -P<printername> or something similar with lp or mpage?
[06:53] <chaps0063> bob2: to use php to query mysql
[06:53] <desrt> eyda|mon; more or less
[06:53] <chaps0063> so yeah, the php4-mysql I'm assuming is correct.
[06:53] <bob2> chaps0063: then php4-mysql
[06:54] <desrt> eyda|mon; think about it... it would be a fairly impossible process
[06:54] <Madpilot> !lamp
[06:54] <ubotu> lamp is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[06:54] <desrt> eyda|mon; you'd have to simultaneously swap the libc and all of the applications
[06:54] <JDahl> ugo, as long as the client uses the correct protocol it should be fine... it shouldn't matter if you build it using heimdal or kerberos. I think I used Kerberos for a server I built on Debian/Sarge kernel 2.4, but I managed to build a 2.6 client also, but I dont remember if I used kerberos... I am looking at Debian docs right now
[06:54] <Madpilot> chaps0063: sorry, haven't been following, but have you seen the link ubotu just posted?
[06:54] <desrt> eyda|mon; not to mention the kernel (somehow)
[06:54] <tritium> firestorm, only from applications that use the gnome cups interface, as far as I'm aware (excluding kde apps, which I don't know about)
[06:54] <eyda|mon> desrt: maybe apt looks at the kernel header files when it's being built
[06:54] <ugo> JDahl: paste url pls
[06:54] <r0d> what linux header files do i use w/ the amd64 chip?
[06:54] <chaps0063> Madpilot: yes.
[06:55] <desrt> eyda|mon; no.  ./configure calls uname during building
[06:55] <chaps0063> Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[06:55] <desrt> eyda|mon; fairly sure that's how it gets it
[06:55] <eyda|mon> desrt: fair enough
[06:55] <eyda|mon> sounds plausible
[06:55] <firestorm> tritium: and finally...using gnome-cups-manager means it automatically names my printer queue and I can't seem to change it...any hints?
[06:56] <tritium> firestorm, no, nickrud was just commenting on that earlier
[06:56] <ksmurf> Damn Gnome install didn't go well
[06:56] <firestorm> tritium: ah thanks
[06:56] <eyda|mon> I'll have to reinstall then
[06:56] <eyda|mon> sucks
[06:56] <chaps0063> Madpilot: nice..thanks.
[06:56] <ksmurf> It won't start
[06:56] <desrt> eyda|mon; the process, if it was possible, would be extremely painful
[06:56] <Tattoo> im in desperate need of help
[06:56] <Madpilot> chaps0063: np. sounds like that's what you need?
[06:56] <dapimp53> OMG this is so nice now that my wireless works
[06:56] <dapimp53> LOL
[06:56] <desrt> eyda|mon; so you'd want to reinstall anyway :)
[06:56] <chaps0063> Madpilot: yeah, sure does..
[06:56] <dapimp53> My last thing I have is my sound. I need to get my sound to work
[06:57] <eyda|mon> desrt: update apt to get 64-bit packages, then upgrade the kernel. Doesn't sound too bad?
[06:57] <chaps0063> Madpilot: had one to many, and the fact that I never heard of LAMP.
[06:57] <Tattoo> i have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.
[06:57] <Tattoo> for my driver
[06:57] <desrt> eyda|mon; you can't have 64bit packages installed with a 32bit kernel
[06:57] <desrt> nothing would work
[06:57] <desrt> so you'd have to do the kernel first
[06:57] <eyda|mon> desrt: fine. that's not too hard either :P
[06:57] <desrt> eyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit programs with 32bit libs... so you'd have to do libs first
[06:57] <desrt> eyda|mon; but you can't have 64bit libs with 32bit programs... so you'd have to do programs first
[06:57] <Madpilot> chaps0063: neither had I a few weeks ago, but it's the 'standard' server setup. I'm running it on my box right now, behind firestarter so it's not publicly accessible...
[06:58] <eyda|mon> heh
[06:58] <desrt> eyda|mon; and now you've got trouble
[06:58] <B-L> anyone know how i can set to use kdm instead of gdm?
[06:58] <tritium> eyda|mon, you can have a 64 bit install, and a 32 bit install in a chroot
[06:58] <chaps0063> Madpilot: well I want this as a "testing" on my laptop for when I am away from the net to develop sites.
[06:58] <eyda|mon> ok, I'm convinced just to reinstall :P
[06:58] <tritium> B-L, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" (using gdm also works), and select kdm
[06:58] <desrt> :)
[06:59] <tfort> gah.. anyone here play wow at all?
[06:59] <delltony> tritium, figured out my overheat problem it was the obvious
[06:59] <tritium> delltony, what was it?
[06:59] <desrt> world of warcrack?
[06:59] <tfort> i'm having a new issue with the 1.6 patch randomly freezing, hehe
[06:59] <delltony> well kinda obvious i should say
[06:59] <tfort> desrt,yes, and i need my fi
[06:59] <tfort> fix
[06:59] <desrt> freak
[06:59] <Tattoo> HELLO
[06:59] <ses|> ubuntu with kde?
[06:59] <Madpilot> chaps0063: that's what mine is for. want to learn PHP, for the heck of it
[06:59] <delltony> i took out my fans and went holy bork
[06:59] <desrt> #ubuntu isn't for crack addicts :P
[06:59] <B-L> thx
[06:59] <tfort> haha
[06:59] <desrt> ses|; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:00] <delltony> the inside was like the lint guard from a dryer
[07:00] <Tattoo> grrr
[07:00] <Tattoo> SOMEONE HELP ME
[07:00] <chaps0063> Madpilot: well I do a bit of web design, www.bredinger.com is my home page, basically I just have a blog and such ATM.
[07:00] <tritium> delltony, hah
[07:00] <ses|> thanks
[07:00] <fortysixand2> yeah, yelling will help
[07:00] <delltony> i pealed it off and wala  temp is 45
[07:00] <Tattoo> sorry
[07:00] <Tattoo> kinda frustrated
[07:00] <fortysixand2> :p
[07:00] <ses|> thanks
[07:00] <chaps0063> Madpilot: as my site's bandwdith usage goes through the roof cause a link was posted...lol.
[07:00] <desrt> Tattoo; uh
[07:00] <fortysixand2> Tattoo:  what;'s up?
[07:00] <nickrud> firestorm, I had to walk away for a while, have you got your printer queue set up the way you want it?
[07:00] <delltony> fans were workking but couldn't do nothing i should have known
[07:00] <desrt> Tattoo; i don't think you've actually asked any questions yet
[07:00] <Tattoo> i need help installing a 'module'
[07:00] <Tattoo> yes i did
[07:00] <JDahl> ugo, this is a very old link: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816. The debian docs are /usr/share/doc/libopenafs-doc, but then you have to install their old AFS version. As I recall those old docs recommends using Kerberos, but maybe you should try to build it with --with-krb5 and see what happens
[07:01] <tritium> Tattoo, you need to ask a more specific question than "make a module or something"
[07:01] <fortysixand2> ok, which one?
[07:01] <Tattoo> i have a ubuntu live cd...need to make a module or something...to conect to the internet....so if anyone can help me..please say so.
[07:01] <Tattoo> yea
[07:01] <desrt> Tattoo; so good job at getting frustrated for people not answering your non-existant question
[07:01] <Tattoo> some guys said
[07:01] <Tattoo> guy
[07:01] <delltony> glad it fixed though i was beinginig to crank out the tools and start doing laptop repair man
[07:01] <delltony> haha
[07:01] <Tattoo> said that its not a driver
[07:01] <Tattoo> i gotta install a driver for my antenna
[07:01] <Madpilot> chaps0063: I should add a bit more to ubotu's LAMP link, so ppl know why it's being posted...!
[07:01] <Tattoo> to connect to another computer for internet access
[07:01] <emX> Tattoo: you have a wireless card?
[07:01] <Tattoo> no
[07:01] <Tattoo> my antenna plugs into a usb port
[07:01] <dravine> el crapola!
[07:01] <desrt> that's wireless.
[07:01] <Tattoo> i know
[07:01] <delltony> oh but i did learn some cool stuff in the making of figuring it out, i learned how to manual scale the processor with cpu govenor and setstep
[07:01] <firestorm> nickrud: yup got it now...had to use CUPS so that I could give it a sane name though :)  And added 2 entries, one for b+w, another for colour...thansk for your perserverence!
[07:01] <tritium> delltony, I'm glad you found out the problem
[07:01] <desrt> Tattoo; do you know what kind of card it is?
[07:01] <chaps0063> Madpilot: yes, I had no clue what LAMP was, I thought it was something I lit when it was dark ;-)
[07:01] <fortysixand2> what card is it?
[07:01] <Tattoo> its not a card
[07:02] <fortysixand2> oops, too slow
[07:02] <desrt> Tattoo; ...
[07:02] <dravine> what chipset
[07:02] <dravine> tat?
[07:02] <Tattoo> its a usb port
[07:02] <Tattoo> dunno
[07:02] <desrt> Tattoo; still a wireless card
[07:02] <nickrud> firestorm, np
[07:02] <desrt> Tattoo; what brand?
[07:02] <Tattoo> i dont know
[07:02] <delltony> yeah me too thanks for your help and the rest of you that tried
[07:02] <Tattoo> agere
[07:02] <fortysixand2> what product is it?  model number, manufacturer, etc?
[07:02] <Tattoo> umm
[07:02] <Tattoo> Agere
[07:02] <Tattoo> i dont have the model number
[07:02] <Tattoo> i have a serial number
[07:02] <emX> Tattoo: that might help
[07:02] <Tattoo> its:
[07:02] <dapimp53> I have a Realtec sound card and I can't seem to get it to work in Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[07:02] <desrt> agere isn't mentioned on the wireless page
[07:03] <delltony> tritium, 53C is about normal correct?
[07:03] <Tattoo> 02UT31414673
[07:03] <glick> its saturday night for godsakes why dont you people go out or something?
[07:03] <weis> dapimp53, is it AC97?
[07:03] <dapimp53> desrt: are you having problems with your wireless network?
[07:03] <desrt> Tattoo; when the card plugged in, do 'lsusb'
[07:03] <desrt> dapimp53; not really
[07:03] <Tattoo> WTF
[07:03] <Tattoo> oops
[07:03] <nickrud> I'm at work, what about you, glick :)
[07:03] <dapimp53> its alC250
[07:03] <Tattoo> caps
[07:03] <chaps0063> glick: I have about 5-6 beers down now...is that good enough, lol.
[07:03] <fortysixand2> glick: I prefer reading and learning to "going out"
[07:03] <desrt> Tattoo; does one of those look like a wireless card?
[07:03] <glick> nickrud, i just rode the bull
[07:03] <Tattoo> desrt, can i PM you
[07:03] <desrt> Tattoo; no
[07:03] <Tattoo> gdit
[07:04] <weis> try loading the i810 audio driver
[07:04] <tritium> delltony, I believe so
[07:04] <Tattoo> there too much commotion
[07:04] <nickrud> how many times did you get thrown :)
[07:04] <weis> that's worked for me in the past with onboard AC97 audio
[07:04] <emX> Tattoo: it's better to resolve these issues in the channel so that other folks can see the answer
[07:04] <dapimp53> weis: how do I do that?
[07:04] <Tattoo> umm
[07:04] <JDahl> ugo, that's without --with-krb5, of course
[07:04] <Tattoo> how
[07:04] <desrt> emX; represent.
[07:04] <desrt> :)
[07:04] <Tattoo> because 2390487923 peple are talking at once
[07:04] <Tattoo> and i cant even get the answer
[07:04] <glick> heh riding the bull is when your doing a chick you slap her ass and tell her her sister was better, and hang on
[07:04] <weis> you could modprobe -i snd_i810
[07:04] <weis> I think that's the right module
[07:04] <delltony> wow i feel like i have a new pc again haha
[07:04] <desrt> Tattoo; did you do lsusb yet?
[07:04] <Tattoo> no
[07:04] <Tattoo> i dont know how
[07:04] <emX> Tattoo: just be patient -- there are people that want to help; it takes a little time, though
[07:04] <Tattoo> im new
[07:05] <Madpilot> !lamp
[07:05] <ubotu> lamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[07:05] <desrt> oh
[07:05] <desrt> do you know how to get to a terminal?
[07:05] <Tattoo> lol
[07:05] <Tattoo> yea
[07:05] <desrt> do lsusb in there
[07:05] <Tattoo> and then?
[07:05] <tritium> glick, please, enough of that
[07:05] <useruser> how do i find out what verion of ubuntu I'm running?
[07:05] <desrt> look to see if one looks like your network card
[07:05] <glick> haha
[07:05] <dapimp53> weis: FATAL: Module snd_i810 not found.
[07:05] <Madpilot> chaps0063: just revised ubotu's LAMP entry. better now, I think!
[07:05] <Tattoo> well ill have to brb
[07:05] <Tattoo> cuz i gotta restart and run the live CD
[07:05] <desrt> oh.
[07:05] <Tattoo> just type lsusb ?
[07:05] <tritium> useruser, lsb_release -a
[07:05] <desrt> for what it's worth....
[07:05] <glick> computers are ok, but you cant comb your fingers through their hair
[07:05] <emX> Tattoo: yeah
[07:05] <chaps0063> Madpilot: sounds better...
[07:05] <desrt> i doubt you'll get this card to work
[07:06] <Tattoo> dude
[07:06] <Tattoo> would you please listen
[07:06] <delltony> hey tritium you know if they have fixed the last -d bug yet?
[07:06] <Computer__Guru> i didnt mean to do that
[07:06] <Tattoo> i need a driver!!
[07:06] <Tattoo> for the antenna
[07:06] <desrt> Tattoo; one might not exist.
[07:06] <Computer__Guru> compiling a kernel is so phun
[07:06] <chaps0063> Madpilot: I never even heard of it as lamp before.
[07:06] <Tattoo> hold on
[07:06] <tritium> delltony, I'm not sure, sorry
[07:06] <Tattoo> yo
[07:06] <desrt> Tattoo; in fact, one probably doesn't
[07:06] <Tattoo> yes
[07:06] <emX> Tattoo: lsusb will give us more information about your wireless device
[07:06] <Tattoo> on the CD
[07:06] <Tattoo> if you explore it
[07:06] <ugo> JDahl: looks like all the files get installed in /usr/local/ alright
[07:06] <Tattoo> it has a driver folder with linux and tells you what to do
[07:06] <Tattoo> except i dont understand it
[07:06] <delltony> its fine but my question is this it is infact a bug and not some russian dude trying to access me right?
[07:06] <desrt> oh.  interesting.
[07:06] <useruser> tritium: thanks. seems I'm running warty - should I upgrade as for debian, change sources.list and then dist-upgrade to hoary (?)
[07:06] <desrt> ok.  that's good information.
[07:06] <glick> damn i gotta crap load of mp3 files i gotta sort
[07:06] <glick> itll take me hours :(
[07:06] <Tattoo> thats why i wanna pm
[07:07] <Tattoo> to tell you waht it says
[07:07] <ugo> JDahl: but not in openafs under that directory rather in /usr/local/bin and so on
[07:07] <desrt> you can just say here
[07:07] <pax> that lamp kiwi is a mess.
[07:07] <Tattoo> no
[07:07] <Tattoo> its long
[07:07] <chaps0063> Madpilot: you recommended bluefish to me right?
[07:07] <weis> try ac97_codec instead of i810
[07:07] <desrt> then use a pastebin
[07:07] <Tattoo> oh
[07:07] <Tattoo> okay
[07:07] <emX> Tattoo: can you paste it in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:07] <emX> ?
[07:07] <tritium> useruser, yes
[07:07] <fortysixand2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:07] <fortysixand2> oops, too late again!
[07:07] <emX> fortysixand2: ;-)
[07:07] <dapimp53> weis: no error... Let me check to see if it work
[07:07] <fortysixand2> me = teh slow  :-(
[07:08] <hait> hi, i need a direct conect client, please
[07:08] <emX> hait: apt-cache search dcc
[07:08] <Tattoo> d
[07:08] <emX> hait: on the command line...
[07:08] <Tattoo> here is the installation instructions:
[07:08] <Tattoo> http://pastebin.com/314815
[07:08] <Madpilot> chaps0063: I think so. sometime this morning?
[07:08] <hait> okm thks
[07:08] <chaps0063> Madpilot: depends where you are...
[07:08] <Madpilot> chaps0063: install Screem too
[07:08] <hait> and a graphic client?
[07:08] <JDahl> ugo, that's mildly annoying, but ok... google abit on how to create the cache and populate /etc/openafs. There your school probably provides most of the info (cells etc)
[07:09] <chaps0063> Madpilot: Ahhhhhhhhhhh! ;-)
[07:09] <desrt> ah.  wavelan card
[07:09] <Tattoo> eh?
[07:09] <Madpilot> chaps0063: heh. OK, about 12.5hrs ago, then... :)
[07:09] <emX> hait: dcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)
[07:09] <chaps0063> Madpilot: it wasnt that long, where are you located?
[07:09] <useruser> tritium: thanks
[07:09] <desrt> Tattoo; holy crap this is involved
[07:09] <Tattoo> desrt, so what?
[07:09] <Tattoo> yea i know
[07:09] <Tattoo> i have know idea what to do
[07:10] <Vacendak> I've been running ubuntu for about 15 minutes now  and it is really slick but I can't understand the root password system. What are the advantages over the traditional *nix way?
[07:10] <tritium> useruser, :)
[07:10] <fortysixand2> if it's a usb thing, why do you need pcmcia sources?
[07:10] <chaps0063> Madpilot: with the LAMP wiki, is it not required to uncomment anything in httpd.conf for php usage?
[07:10] <tritium> Vacendak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:10] <Tattoo> no idea
[07:10] <Madpilot> chaps0063: BC, Canada. Pacific timezone. it must have been around 0930 my time, it's now 2210 local...
[07:10] <fortysixand2> seems odd to me
[07:10] <Tattoo> yo
[07:10] <Tattoo> do you just want me to go to the terminal and type lsusb
[07:10] <desrt> Tattoo; the fact that you can't be in ubuntu and on IRC at the same time makes this almost impossible
[07:10] <hait> emX: yeah, i know but dcgui client is bad...
[07:10] <desrt> Tattoo; no.  we know what type of card you have now, from the docs
[07:10] <Madpilot> chaps0063: I don't think so. I didn't change anything,and PHP runs on my machine...
[07:10] <Tattoo> umm
[07:10] <emX> emX: how so?
[07:10] <Tattoo> im on windows right now
[07:11] <Tattoo> i know
[07:11] <emX> hait: how so?
[07:11] <Tattoo> ill have to restart with the cd in
[07:11] <ugo> JDahl: sure...
[07:11] <desrt> lemme see if i can make some sense of this documentation
[07:11] <dapimp53> weis: nope no sound
[07:11] <Tattoo> wait
[07:11] <Tattoo> thats not all of it
[07:11] <Tattoo> do you need all of it?
[07:11] <chaps0063> Madpilot: ok, I will follow it to a T and let you know how it turns out
[07:11] <Tattoo> the system requirements and all that?
[07:11] <weis> dapimp53, did you get a mixer set up too?
[07:11] <dapimp53> no
[07:12] <weis> I think it's MAKEDEV mixer under /dev
[07:12] <emX> Vacendak: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RootSudo
[07:12] <weis> but that could be way oldskool
[07:12] <bob2> you shouldn't ever need MAKEDEV on ubuntu
[07:12] <chaps0063> Madpilot: gotta love cable internet, 510KB/s
[07:12] <desrt> Tattoo; does the driver work on 2.6?
[07:12] <hait> i'm use wulfor rigth now... but this is unestable
[07:12] <desrt> Tattoo; from what i'm seeing here, it's for linux 2.4
[07:12] <Tattoo> what is 2.6
[07:12] <desrt> Tattoo; that's probably trouble
[07:12] <Tattoo> *sigh*
[07:12] <Madpilot> chaps0063: not sure how the dailup ppl manage w/ Linux... or at all, really... :)
[07:12] <desrt> Tattoo; the version of linux you have
[07:12] <Vacendak> Thanks. makes sense. I am very impressed
[07:12] <Tattoo> so im not going to be able to run linux am i?
[07:13] <Tattoo> well
[07:13] <desrt> Tattoo; definitely not very easily
[07:13] <Tattoo> with intenrent access
[07:13] <Tattoo> typos
[07:13] <dapimp53> Says it doesnt know how to make device "mixer"
[07:13] <chaps0063> Madpilot: no clue...it must be ashame, my girlfriend is still on AOL...
[07:13] <emX> Vacendak: i like it alot, too; i administer solaris and debian boxes, too; i've come to prefer sudo
[07:13] <weis> dapimp53, doesn't www.viaarena.com have some linux drivers for your sound?
[07:13] <desrt> Tattoo; i guess it doesn't just detect it when you boot up with it plugged in?
[07:13] <chaps0063> Madpilot: its terrible when I'm at her house..
[07:13] <Tattoo> eh
[07:13] <Tattoo> i guess not
[07:13] <useruser> hm. I'm trying to upgrade from warty to hoary, but dist-upgrade is holding lots of packages back. there seem to be lots of unsatisfied dependencies according to aptitude. is this usual?
[07:13] <emX> Tattoo: other wireless devices are rather inexpensive...
[07:13] <desrt> :(
[07:13] <Tattoo> im not buying anything
[07:13] <chaps0063> unfortunately, my modem doesnt work in linux, so I can't use my dialup account.
[07:13] <Tattoo> brb
[07:14] <Tattoo> ima just go do that lsusb
[07:14] <Tattoo> would that help at all?
[07:14] <Vacendak> I am a Suse guy but I am loving this
[07:14] <desrt> not really
[07:14] <Tattoo> grr
[07:14] <Tattoo> what do i need to do?
[07:14] <desrt> we already know it's a wavelan
[07:14] <the_walrus> whats a normal transfer rate for an ATA100 HD?
[07:14] <fortysixand2> does that live cd contain the wavelan modules?  Couldn't he/she just "modprobe wavelan_cs"?
[07:14] <Tattoo> me?
[07:14] <fortysixand2> yeah
[07:15] <Tattoo> <-- dude
[07:15] <emX> Vacendak: suse is nice, too; i'm quite a fan of the Debian-eque linuxes, though
[07:15] <Tattoo> and how do i know if i have wavelan mods
[07:15] <fortysixand2> ok, he then :)
[07:15] <tritium> Tattoo, try "modinfo wavelan_cs"
[07:15] <Tattoo> how can i find out
[07:15] <Tattoo> hmm
[07:15] <Tattoo> ill brb
[07:15] <Tattoo> gotta restart now =(
[07:15] <fortysixand2> when it's plugged in, what does lsmod give
[07:15] <Tattoo> rofl
[07:15] <Tattoo> i dont know
[07:15] <emX> ??
[07:15] <nickrud> the_walrus, I seem to get about 40MB/sec on my disks, your milage may vary
[07:15] <Tattoo> hold on a second
[07:15] <tritium> Tattoo, wait.  That just tells you info about the module.
[07:15] <Tattoo> ill brb
[07:16] <jcapote> has anyone in here used suse?
[07:16] <Tattoo> so
[07:16] <Tattoo> what do i need to do?
[07:16] <Vacendak> emx: Think this is a going to be my distro of choice
[07:16] <tritium> Tattoo, just so you know.  lsmod to load it
[07:16] <nickrud> jcapote, well, about 5 years ago :)
[07:16] <La_PaRCa> Hey guys. I updated to hoary from warty and now all my stuff is in english. How do I change my Locale?
[07:16] <jcapote> I wanted someone to give me a comparison between ubuntu and suse 9.3
[07:16] <desrt> tritium; ?
[07:16] <fortysixand2> lmod doesn't load, does it?   thought modprobe did
[07:16] <fortysixand2> lsmod, I mean
[07:17] <Tattoo> hey
[07:17] <tritium> desrt, oops, modprobe ;)
[07:17] <tritium> thanks for catching taht
[07:17] <emX> fortysixand2: yeah, modprove does.
[07:17] <desrt> tritium; np :P
[07:17] <tritium> Tattoo, I'm out of my mind ;)
[07:17] <Tattoo> wait
[07:17] <Tattoo> listen:
[07:17] <emX> s/modprove/modprobe
[07:17] <Tattoo> To unpack the Linux PCMCIA package, copy it to the
[07:17] <Tattoo>        current working directory and type:
[07:17] <Tattoo>        % tar xzvf pcmcia-cs-3.1.29.tar.gz
[07:17] <Tattoo> how do i do that
[07:17] <desrt> Tattoo; while you're out picking up your new network card, grab some valium
[07:17] <emX> Vacendak: i've also been getting into the *BSDs of late -- especially OpenBSD.
[07:17] <fortysixand2> I don't think you don't need to do that, since it's USB
[07:17] <Tattoo> sigh
[07:17] <Tattoo> then what!
[07:18] <ksmurf> Ok when I try to log into my new install I am kicked out of the session right away with an error about not being able to create a ~/.gnome dir.  What does this mean?
[07:18] <ugo> JDahl: hmm...do you know of any issues with reiserfs?
[07:18] <Tattoo> how do i change directorys in a terminal
[07:18] <desrt> i should take the BSD hal for a spin
[07:18] <emX> ksmurf: do you have write permissions in your home directory
[07:18] <nickrud> Tattoo, if you think you need to compile the pcmcia stuff yourself, take a deap breath, and rethink
[07:18] <desrt> Tattoo; cd
[07:18] <Tattoo> cd what
[07:18] <Tattoo> like
[07:18] <desrt> cd newdirectory
[07:18] <ksmurf> emX how should I check?
[07:18] <useruser> for example, I can't upgrade mozilla-firefox because of     --- libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) (UNAVAILABLE)
[07:18] <Tattoo> if i wanted to go to a director on my desktop named mole
[07:19] <useruser> what's that all about?
[07:19] <desrt> cd Desktop/mole
[07:19] <Tattoo> hmm
[07:19] <JDahl> ugo, no.. what issues would that be?
[07:19] <Tattoo> well what do i need to do?
[07:19] <emX> ksmurf: 'ls -l /path/to/homedirectory'; probably 'ls -l /home/ksmurf'
[07:19] <thr1ce> netBSD =] 
[07:19] <holycow> useruser, running breezy?
[07:19] <nickrud> useruser, something is wrong with /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <holycow> or using a non ubuntu repository?
[07:19] <desrt> emX; ~
[07:19] <ksmurf> emX not on this box but on my wifes
[07:19] <Vacendak> emX: played with the BSDs, don't like the naming conventions but can't beat the security of OPENBSD even if the lead developer talks trash about linux.
[07:19] <ksmurf> emX i'll check
[07:19] <Tattoo> well what do i need to do?
[07:19] <emX> desrt: ;-)
[07:20] <La_PaRCa> Hey, I just updated from hoary to warty, and I had everything in spanish before. How come everything is in english now?
[07:20] <emX> desrt: didn't assume it was his user.
[07:20] <La_PaRCa> Where can I change my gnome locale?
[07:20] <useruser> nickrud: probably - I have hoary universe multiverse and hoary-security main restricted
[07:20] <useruser> nickrud: should there be more?
[07:20] <Tattoo> i want linux on this computer so bad its not funny
[07:20] <desrt> wow
[07:20] <chaps0063> Madpilot: working on LAMP now..
[07:20] <desrt> madwifi is well-maintained
[07:21] <benplaut> wait... i missed something... what was the problem?
[07:21] <fortysixand2> rofl @ tritium
[07:21] <Tattoo> grr
[07:21] <Tattoo> yo
[07:21] <benplaut> ohhh
[07:21] <Tattoo> is there ANYTHING i can do withouth having to buy something
[07:21] <benplaut> wireless trouble
[07:21] <Tattoo> yes
[07:21] <Tattoo> i hate this stupid crap
[07:21] <benplaut> probably not
[07:21] <Tattoo> if my bitch mom would get cable
[07:21] <jcapote> does ubuntu have an easy way to manage the changing of wireless networks
[07:21] <emX> Tattoo: sheesh...
[07:21] <jcapote> like say you have a static ip at home but at a friends house you use dhcp
[07:21] <useruser> holycow: no, trying to upgrade warty to hoary
[07:21] <benplaut> try GTKwifi
[07:21] <Tattoo> i need to install the driver
[07:21] <desrt> Tattoo; seriously... valium would help a lot
[07:21] <aru> Tattoo: maybe you should get a job and buy your own cable
[07:21] <tritium> Tattoo, calm down, man.  No need to talk about your own mom that way.
[07:22] <Tattoo> <--- is 15
[07:22] <nickrud> useruser, I recommend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles, the more organized version.
[07:22] <benplaut> <--- is 13
[07:22] <Tattoo> cant get a job
[07:22] <desrt> Tattoo; we'd never have guessed
[07:22] <aru> ok, maybe you should get a paper route
[07:22] <emX> Tattoo: assuming you're in the US, you are legally employable.
[07:22] <Tattoo> okay
[07:22] <Tattoo> no sir
[07:22] <emX> YMMV in other countries...
[07:22] <ugo> JDahl: i just read something wrt locking
[07:22] <tritium> fortysixand2, no wonder he didn't get the Fantasy Island reference ;)
[07:22] <Tattoo> im not
[07:22] <Tattoo> because i havent a way back and forth
[07:22] <benplaut> Tattoo: clean spyware/adware/virii from Windows computers ;)
[07:22] <ugo> JDahl: just asking if you had some preknowlesge
[07:22] <Tattoo> my mother works
[07:22] <benplaut> that's what i do :)
[07:22] <Tattoo> and we only have one car
[07:22] <fortysixand2> can you take the card back and get a new one?
[07:22] <Tattoo> okay
[07:22] <Tattoo> get back on the subject
[07:23] <Tattoo> no
[07:23] <Tattoo> its not a card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:23] <thr1ce> it is a card
[07:23] <emX> Tattoo: s/card/device
[07:23] <benplaut> what is it?
[07:23] <desrt> Tattoo; it is.
[07:23] <fortysixand2> ok, forget it
[07:23] <emX> benplaut: wireless usb
[07:23] <Tattoo> its a fucking usb port thats been in this bitch for 8 years
[07:23] <aru> Tattoo: come into #ubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss you getting a job :)
[07:23] <desrt> "wireless card" == something that does wifi that's not a base station
[07:23] <emX> desrt: :-)
[07:23] <fortysixand2> I quit
[07:23] <Zerboxx> Tattoo: It's a usb wireless device?
[07:23] <Tattoo> i guess
[07:23] <tritium> Tattoo, please tone down the language, and calm down a bit as we try to assist you
[07:23] <Tattoo> all i know is
[07:23] <desrt> fortysixand2; wise. :)
[07:24] <Tattoo> i plug it into a usb port...and it works
[07:24] <La_PaRCa> Where can I change my gnome locale?
[07:24] <desrt> La_PaRCa; from the login screen
[07:24] <benplaut> you can pick up a PCI (or maybe USB) card for... $20
[07:24] <Zerboxx> Tattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number
[07:24] <desrt> La_PaRCa; just pick a different language
[07:24] <Tattoo> *sigh*
[07:24] <Computer__Guru> make modules is taking a quick minute
[07:24] <Tattoo> IM NOT BUYING NOTHING
[07:24] <La_PaRCa> desrt, its not working.
[07:24] <desrt> :(
[07:24] <benplaut> OK, then you won't have internet
[07:24] <desrt> La_PaRCa; what language?
[07:24] <Tattoo> no
[07:24] <Tattoo> there is a way
[07:24] <Zerboxx> Tattoo: What is name of the brand, and the model number
[07:24] <Tattoo> without buying something
[07:24] <La_PaRCa> desrt, spanish
[07:24] <Tattoo> i dont know the model number
[07:24] <Tattoo> i know the serial number
[07:24] <desrt> La_PaRCa; did you install language-pack-es ?
[07:24] <Computer__Guru> name brans?
[07:24] <emX> Tattoo: there is a way, but it's going to require a good deal of familiarity with linux
[07:25] <tritium> And more patience than you're showing
[07:25] <Tattoo> and the brand is Agere Systems
[07:25] <desrt> La_PaRCa; better question, i guess... did you pick spanish as your language during the installer?
[07:25] <Computer__Guru> since when did manufacturers start monopolizing the pc market?
[07:25] <emX> Tattoo: we can only help you so much;
[07:25] <Tattoo> eh
[07:25] <emX> Tattoo: we'd like to help, though.
[07:25] <La_PaRCa> desrt, um, its not there for some reason. used to be there before the update. go figure.
[07:25] <chaps0063> I followed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is httpd.conf?
[07:25] <Tattoo> apparently not
[07:25] <mgcross> question: I have a number of full DVDs that I dumped to my HD before comming to Korea...how the heck do I play them as a dvd...not just the individual tracks, one at a time? WHere are the menues?
[07:25] <desrt> La_PaRCa; did you move to breezy?
[07:25] <Tattoo> i've been here for half an hour
[07:25] <benplaut> emX: hate to be a pessimest, but after 3 months struggling with my first card (and learning tons about linux in the process), i ended up buying a new card. sometimes it... just plain doesn't work
[07:25] <Computer__Guru> in /etc/apache/
[07:26] <Tattoo> and all you do is bitch at me
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> i think heh
[07:26] <nickrud> Tattoo, a whole half hour :)
[07:26] <La_PaRCa> desrt, nope, from warty to hoary. needless to say it didnt go completely smooth
[07:26] <useruser> nickrud: thanks, that did the trick
[07:26] <emX> benplaut: i've been there, too; wireless is rough.
[07:26] <desrt> La_PaRCa; try apt-get install language-pack-es language-support-es
[07:26] <benplaut> emX: i'm still there :)
[07:26] <desrt> La_PaRCa; maybe the files got lost in the upgrade or something
[07:26] <emX> benplaut: me too.
[07:26] <benplaut> stupid old version of wireless-tools...
[07:26] <emX> benplaut: and with all sorts of wireless to boot.
[07:26] <La_PaRCa> desrt, yeah. lots of stuff got lost for some reason or other, not sure.
[07:27] <Tattoo> this totally sucks
[07:27] <tritium> Tattoo, we've been trying to help you.  No need to insult those who have helped you.
[07:27] <Tattoo> no one has helped me because the thing still isnt working
[07:27] <fortysixand2> I bet a reboot, insert the DEVICE, and type "modprobe wavelan_cs" would work
[07:27] <emX> Tattoo: it's very difficult to support wireless hardware; lots of manufacturers insist on keeping their specs closed.
[07:27] <tritium> Tattoo, yes, several have tried.
[07:27] <nickrud> Tattoo, maybe if you can do a bit of work, like getting us the exact model of the thing you want to work
[07:27] <benplaut> Tattoo: first of all, it's not definate that someone even knows what to do... and a half hour isn't alot. i've been in this channel all day :)
[07:27] <Tattoo> 'tried'
[07:28] <La_PaRCa> desrt, might have something to do with me not having enough space with the partition to cache all the packages for the dist-upgrade :P
[07:28] <desrt> tritium; is that like a selective +m?
[07:28] <fortysixand2> whose IP could that be?
[07:28] <desrt> La_PaRCa; oh man.  i ran out of space during a dist-upgrade once... it wasn't happy.
[07:28] <dbw> desrt: yes
[07:28] <emX> heh
[07:28] <tritium> desrt, it's ot quiet
[07:28] <desrt> dbw; sweet.
[07:28] <tritium> to
[07:28] <Computer__Guru> seriously, though, for a channel with 400 people in it, i think service is pretty fuckin zippy - especially considering nobody gets paid to do this
[07:28] <emX> Computer__Guru: definitely.
[07:28] <La_PaRCa> desrt, I know that now. not making that mistake again.
[07:28] <desrt> that kid has some serious issues
[07:29] <chaps0063> if I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary, where is my httpd.conf
[07:29] <fortysixand2> no kidding, it's not like we HAVE to be here and help
[07:29] <desrt> La_PaRCa; so were the packages installed already or are they installing now?
[07:29] <fortysixand2> I do it because I like Linux and helping people use it
[07:29] <emX> Computer__Guru: it's probably not the ideal environment for everyone, though; still, it works surprisingly well
[07:29] <benplaut> well, that's the end of Tattoo
[07:29] <La_PaRCa> desrt, downloading as we speak. Thanks a lot.
[07:29] <nickrud> for a while, anyway
[07:29] <emX> benplaut: and i thought they were permanent...
[07:29] <benplaut> i doubt we'll see him/her again under that name
[07:29] <fortysixand2> I bet if he would have modprobed for wavelan_cs, it would work
[07:29] <desrt> La_PaRCa; i only hope it works :)
[07:29] <benplaut> emX: true... true...
[07:30] <benplaut> bye everyone :)
[07:30] <fortysixand2> bye
[07:30] <tritium> goodnight benplaut
[07:30] <Computer__Guru> i gotta say i see a hell of a lot more help being served up in this channel than the 'support' channels/rooms of any other dist ive ever been in
[07:30] <Madpilot> chaps0063: Places --> Search for Files...
[07:30] <emX> or goodmonring
[07:30] <Computer__Guru> and ive been in my share
[07:30] <La_PaRCa> This chan kicks ass, if you dont mind me saying so
[07:30] <tritium> Computer__Guru, glad to heat it :)
[07:30] <chaps0063> Madpilot: no files found
[07:30] <tritium> hear even
[07:31] <Vacendak> Been here 30 minutes and I have to say BEST IRC CHANNEL EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:31] <Madpilot> chaps0063: switch the filefinder to "Filesystem",
[07:31] <ugo> JDahl: so where can i get the debian scripts you mentioned?
[07:31] <tritium> La_PaRCa, Vacendak :)
[07:31] <Madpilot> chaps0063: my httpd.conf is in /etc/apache2
[07:31] <chaps0063> Madpilot: did, no luck
[07:31] <ugo> JDahl: lots of happy ubuntu users eh?
[07:31] <chaps0063> Madpilot:  yeah, but I can't control anything there.
[07:31] <chaps0063> Madpilot: I wanted to be able to changed my documentroot
[07:31] <mgcross> any takers on what I need to do to play ripped dvds with titles etc...*think* I've installed all the support I need...
[07:32] <yahalom> how do i reinstall something with apt-get?
[07:32] <nickrud> I'd laugh, except that tritium has earned his bows ;)
[07:32] <desrt> hmm
[07:32] <Vantage__> yahalom: apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[07:32] <mgcross> and yes, I've been reading man pages...
[07:32] <desrt> the perma-hard-locks that used to be caused by the old atheros driver appear to have turned into half-second mini-studders
[07:32] <ksmurf> emX u rock... I got it changed
[07:32] <desrt> i'll take it!
[07:32] <Madpilot> chaps0063: in a terminal, open gedit with sudo. can't recall the exact command... somene else, please?
[07:32] <emX> ksmurf: great!
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> Im gonna keep coming here. I guess someone will eventually come up with something I do know.
[07:32] <tritium> nickrud, ?
[07:32] <emX> ksmurf: so it's working, then?
[07:32] <mgcross> you guys are always my last resort...
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> and then I can help them. :)
[07:33] <emX> mgcross: how did you back the DVDs up?
[07:33] <dapimp53> Now I hear some wierd sounds out of my speakers but its not playing the sound. Its extremly distorted
[07:33] <nickrud> bad phrasing. My kudos, also :)
[07:33] <yahalom> Vantage__, thanx
[07:33] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: it's addictive... and even an utter noob like me can find a few specialties...
[07:33] <Vantage__> np
[07:33] <mgcross> just dumped the whole thinkgs to HD....sold my DVD drive before I moved here....
[07:33] <JDahl> ugo, it's abit of a mess... get the source package for openafs-client, build it and grab configurations from the 'debian' directory... maybe it's easier to set it up yourself
[07:33] <desrt> emX; backup?  pfft.  you're kidding right?  bittorrent, man :P
[07:34] <mgcross> emx: just dumped the whole thinkgs to HD....sold my DVD drive before I moved here....
[07:34] <emX> desrt: i prefer the library...discs are scratched often, though
[07:34] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, I guess when the wine questions come around, I'll be here. That and working with the PSP under linux. :)
[07:34] <emX> mgcross: how'd you dump 'em? dvdbackup?
[07:34] <JDahl> ugo, you basically only need to setup CellServDB and few other files
[07:34] <La_PaRCa> ok, lets see if this here locale worked
[07:34] <desrt> emX; ya.  i do the same with music.  haven't really gotten into movies yet, tho
[07:34] <La_PaRCa> brb
[07:34] <tritium> La_PaRCa, awesome :)
[07:34] <desrt> emX; don't watch 'em enough
[07:34] <emX> desrt: oooh, i like movies. music, too.
[07:34] <emX> desrt: therefore, i like libraries.
[07:35] <tritium> nickrud, the kudos go to the whole channel :)
[07:35] <mgcross> emx: nope, not that smart...just copied the whole disks to folders with the movie names...everything is there, and I can play them one bit at a time....ooops?
[07:35] <nickrud> well, most of us just pick the low hanging fruit.
[07:35] <emX> mgcross: you mean one .VOB at a time?
[07:36] <mgcross> emx: hehe, yes...that's what I mean...sorry...
[07:36] <emX> mgcross: i've done that before, too; just make a playlist of each .VOB in xine or similar
[07:36] <nickrud> and hope we don't drop it ;<
[07:36] <emX> mgcross: works ok. you might want to look into dvdbackup or similar for the future.
[07:36] <tritium> heh
[07:36] <La_PaRCa> desrt, beautiful, its all spanish goodness now :)
[07:36] <desrt> La_PaRCa; excellent :)
[07:36] <ugo> JDahl: yeah apparently
[07:37] <emX> mgcross: or totem, or mplayer...
[07:37] <ugo> JDahl: im printing out the openafs installation pages now
[07:37] <mgcross> emx: I will...damn..was looking for a more elegant solution.....thaks tho...you guys are great!
[07:37] <_thomas> Hello everyone.
[07:37] <fortysixand2> hi
[07:37] <_thomas> I need some help. Duh. LOL
[07:37] <_thomas> I have a Radeon 9800 pro video card that I successfully had running great in Ubuntu. But I like KDE better than GNOME so I install KUBUNTU.
[07:37] <tritium> Hello, _thomas
[07:37] <_thomas> But now I cannot get my 9800 pro to install using the same steps as I did in UBUNTU.
[07:37] <JDahl> ugo, that's a huge manual... I would just google
[07:38] <tritium> _thomas, are you referring to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[07:38] <_thomas> Yes.
[07:39] <ugo> JDahl: yeah i know...thing is having the paper around forces me to read it...else i was just skip to the commands
[07:39] <ugo> JDahl: ill get back to you
[07:39] <tritium> _thomas, can you elaborate?
[07:40] <Vacendak> Can I install KDE using add/remove programs advanced
[07:40] <thr1ce> Vacendak: use apt
[07:40] <r0d> bob2, i'm trying to compile an orinoco driver, but keeps giving me 'Makefile:35: *** The kernel source is not configured.  Stop.' i have kernel source and headers installed
[07:41] <dapimp53> where are the tcl lib files located with the generic install?
[07:41] <aru> Vacendak: install the Kubuntu-Desktop package, it'll mess up your pretty gnome menus though
[07:42] <Davey> Vacendak: yes, also if you go to System > Administration > Synaptic you will get to the "Add/Remove Programs > Advanced" section directly :)
[07:42] <_thomas> Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[07:42] <r0d> dapimp53,  are you talking to me?
[07:42] <tritium> dapimp53, try "dpkg -L tcl8.4" to see a list
[07:42] <r0d> nm..
[07:43] <Vacendak> I really don't want KDE but maybe _thomas could use that to get his his Radeon card to work that way?
[07:43] <emX> Vacendak: ?
[07:43] <_thomas> Kernel Module : Precompiled Kernel Version Mismatched.
[07:43] <bob2> r0d: you don't need or want source for that, you want 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential'
[07:43] <tritium> _thomas, what's producing that error?
[07:43] <bob2> r0d: but, regardless, the ubuntu kernels include orinoco drivers
[07:43] <racket2424> hey, what is the default location for trash objects?
[07:43] <emX> Vacendak: KDE/GNOME/other shouldn't effect how the video card works, AFAIK
[07:44] <desrt> fancy
[07:44] <r0d> bob2,  not the cvs driver
[07:44] <desrt> the new atheros drivers don't lock up my computer anymore
[07:44] <desrt> they also don't work at all
[07:44] <La_PaRCa> desrt, congrats
[07:44] <dpower> whut command do i need to mount a new hdd?
[07:44] <desrt> hmm.  kismet is working
[07:45] <desrt> i wonder why i can't connect to my network anymore
[07:45] <emX> dpower: 'mount /dev/newhdd'
[07:45] <emX> dpower: ?
[07:45] <dpower> ty
[07:45] <La_PaRCa> desrt, wrong key? :P
[07:45] <dpower> upon rebooting it will mount itself?
[07:45] <fortysixand2> gotta put it in /etc/fstab
[07:45] <Madpilot> need opinions... is this an OK ubotu entry for html?
[07:45] <emX> dpower: no, add it to /etc/fstab (there are other entries in that file you can look at)
[07:45] <racket2424> hey, what is the default location for trash objects?
[07:45] <Madpilot> !html
[07:45] <dpower> thats whut i needed
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. HTML editors available in Hoary include Bluefish & Screem, both installable thru Synaptic.
[07:45] <dpower> thanky
[07:45] <bob2> racket2424: "trash objects"?
[07:46] <emX> Madpilot: bluefish, screem...and vim. ;-)
[07:46] <nickrud> nooooo
[07:46] <emX> Madpilot: looks fine.
[07:46] <Madpilot> emX: good point, I should put something in about text editors...
[07:46] <emX> racket2424: i think it's ~/.trash, but i'm not certain (dont' use it).
[07:47] <Vacendak> EmX: his card worked with Ubuntu but he wanted KDE so he installed  KUBUNTU instead. So if he installs ubuntu then apt gets KDE it should work. Right?
[07:47] <Zerboxx> Geez Tattoo has to calm down :D
[07:47] <emX> Vacendak: ahh. gotcha.
[07:47] <racket2424> bob2 - anything i deleted into trash
[07:47] <normal1> hey
[07:47] <fortysixand2> hi
[07:48] <tritium> Zerboxx, where is he now?
[07:48] <emX> Madpilot: s/thru/through/? nit pick...
[07:48] <Zerboxx> tritium: Went to go learn about basic linux commands
[07:48] <normal1> is there a repository for ubuntu by freashmeat
[07:48] <Madpilot> emX: I'm lazy... :)
[07:48] <fortysixand2> sudo rm -rf /
[07:48] <bob2> normal1: what do you mean?
[07:48] <fortysixand2> is that one?
[07:48] <La_PaRCa> emX, thru is in merriam-webster
[07:48] <emX> Madpilot: and i could understand it. no biggie.
[07:49] <bob2> fortysixand2: no, and it's not funny, do not do it again
[07:49] <emX> La_PaRCa: really? geez...
[07:49] <La_PaRCa> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thru
[07:49] <normal1> like something i could add so i can just apt-get the files from there
[07:49] <emX> La_PaRCa: oh boy...
[07:49] <fortysixand2> ok
[07:49] <fortysixand2> my bad
[07:49] <merriam> Why do people keep saying "merriam-webster" here?
[07:49] <fortysixand2> I sometimes forget the company I'm in
[07:49] <normal1> any one knoe
[07:49] <La_PaRCa> merriam, rofl
[07:49] <nickrud> normal1, no, look up apps you like on freshmeat, then look for them on packages.ubuntu.com. That will tell you what to get
[07:50] <La_PaRCa> http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=thru&x=19&y=5
[07:50] <emX> merriam: it's a much-used print dictionary.
[07:50] <normal1> cool thanks man
[07:50] <merriam> emX: I know.  To few computer nerds and too many English nerds here. ;)
[07:51] <emX> merriam: :-)
[07:51] <nickrud> that's not a bug, that's a feature :)
[07:52] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, not a feature, we in AI call it "emergent behavior"
[07:52] <elmagozizou> is it posible to play WMV on mplayer?
[07:52] <the_walrus> yup
[07:52] <Madpilot> we kan all spel real gud, 2
[07:52] <La_PaRCa> elmagozizou, yeah, need the codec pack
[07:53] <Madpilot> :)
[07:53] <elmagozizou> where I can get it?
[07:53] <Madpilot> revised ubotu's html entry
[07:53] <the_walrus> mplayerhq.hu
[07:53] <Madpilot> !html
[07:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. HTML editors available in Hoary include Bluefish & Screem, both installable through Synaptic. HTML can also be written in any text editor, as purists will be quick to tell you!
[07:53] <emX> Madpilot: purist? me? yeah...
[07:53] <La_PaRCa> elmagozizou, from synaptic its called w32codecs
[07:53] <elmagozizou> ok better...
[07:53] <La_PaRCa> elmagozizou, but its on universe I think
[07:53] <tritium> but that's not in the official repositories...
[07:53] <Madpilot> emX: I'm a handcoding purist, but I do like a good editor...
[07:53] <tritium> elmagozizou, it's in one of the backports repos
[07:54] <emX> elmagozizou: google marillat
[07:54] <La_PaRCa> w32codecs is in marillat? cool
[07:54] <elmagozizou> trinium, i have all the repos i thik and doesnt find it
[07:54] <nickrud> Madpilot, you might want to mention the mozilla thing (whatever it's name is at the moment) and w3c's refrence. amaya
[07:54] <tritium> and in backports
[07:54] <La_PaRCa> um, speaking of which, I cant connect to my marillat repos
[07:54] <tritium> elmagozizou, right, it's not an official repo
[07:55] <elmagozizou> emx, whats marillat?
[07:55] <fortysixand2> I wonder when FF 1.0.5 will be in backports
[07:55] <Madpilot> nickrud: it's already getting pretty long... does amaya actually work as an editor too?
[07:55] <poningru> yeah probably
[07:55] <La_PaRCa> is this the addie for marillat? : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[07:55] <emX> elmagozizou: marillat is a fellow who packages stuff for debian-esque distros, including mplayer's w32codecs.
[07:55] <tritium> La_PaRCa, you're better off using backports rather than Marillat
[07:56] <tritium> (not that I often recommend backports)
[07:56] <emX> see, i thought there was a better answer than marillat...
[07:56] <eli> !codecs
[07:56] <nickrud> Madpilot, yes, but I've not really looked at it for a couple of years.
[07:56] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:57] <La_PaRCa> tritium, um, really, whats the thing for backports?
[07:57] <elmagozizou> ok
[07:57] <tritium> eli, has pointed it out, La_PaRCa
[07:57] <Madpilot> nickrud: installing amaya now. should've done that before...
[07:57] <eli> ... what did i point out? i just came in and did the bang codecs since i re-did my sytem
[07:57] <eli> system
[07:57] <Vacendak> Whats the developer channel for ubuntu?
[07:57] <crimsun> -devel
[07:57] <tritium> eli, that's what I was referring to :)
[07:57] <Madpilot> good timing, then, eli
[07:57] <eli> cool :)
[07:59] <JiveNix> when you install apache2 from syanpitic, does the default apache installation go away?
[07:59] <eli> question... do any of you have to do - > slocate -u to update your search capabilities? i never had to do that before
[07:59] <eli> until i re-installed ubuntu
[07:59] <crimsun> eli: search for what?
[07:59] <emX> eli: slocate uses a database of files; it needs updating manually, although some distros provide cron scripts that do it in the background
[07:59] <eli> i was looking for a specific file called xgterm and did a locate xgterm
[08:00] <eli> after installing it
[08:00] <tritium> eli, if you leave your computer on long enough, a daily cron job does that for you
[08:00] <eli> it didnt come up... but i knew i had it so i did the slocate -u
[08:00] <jorgp> is breezy usable yet?
[08:00] <crimsun> jorgp: sure, but we get to laugh at you when things break.
[08:01] <crimsun> really, it's not advisable for use just quite yet
[08:01] <jorgp> but how is it any different then running sid
[08:02] <JiveNix> after you update the apache modules config do you have to restart apache
[08:02] <crimsun> (1) it's not Sid; (2) Xorg packages are still quite fubar (being fixed); (3) multiple changes in the distro, not just big packages like Xorg; (4) did I mention it's not Sid?
[08:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> can multiple apps use alsa at the same time, or must they use something like esd?
[08:03] <eli> tritium , emX , crimsun , thank you for your help on the slocate phenomena. now i understand =}
[08:03] <tritium> JiveNix, yes, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" (assuming you're using apache2)
[08:03] <tritium> eli, :)
[08:03] <emX> eli: np.
[08:03] <JiveNix> how do i get the version of apache
[08:03] <desrt> BROKEN_LADDER; depends on if you have a good soundcard or not
[08:03] <nickrud> sid: developers trying to keep everything working at this moment. breezy: break everything, we'll fix it by october
[08:03] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: only if one or more of the following is true: (1) your hardware does pcm multiopen; (2) you have dmix configured
[08:03] <rob^> crimsun, lol that would make a good factoid
[08:04] <GeistFloripas> Hey, guys. I'm a Linux newbee. What should i do to discover all daemons running im my machine. And how can i disable those such as Apache server?
[08:04] <tritium> JiveNix, the name of the package you installed, for one
[08:04] <JiveNix> tritium: it appears i have both installed
[08:04] <JiveNix> apache that came with the default installation, and the apache 2 i added from synaptic
[08:04] <nickrud> view from the outside :)
[08:05] <JiveNix> i assumed synaptic would remove apache 1.3 but it did not
[08:05] <emX> GeistFloripas: 'sudo netstat -tulp' will show you all the processes listening on the network; 'ps aux' will show you all the processes running.
[08:05] <JiveNix> i also read documentation that said mod-mono only works on apache 2, but its listing apache 1.3 as its dependency
[08:05] <tritium> JiveNix, apacheis not installed by default, but okay.
[08:05] <emX> benplaut: nice dinner?
[08:06] <bob2> no, it would never just remove it, it's perfectly ok to have both apache 1 and apache 2installed at once
[08:06] <benplaut> yup
[08:06] <JiveNix> that seems confusing
[08:06] <benplaut> stuffed roasted pinnaple... yummy! :)
[08:06] <JiveNix> which serves from which port?
[08:06] <JiveNix> or does apache 2 extend apache 1.3?
[08:06] <JiveNix> which config file do i configure for mod-mono, etc
[08:07] <bob2> JiveNix: you can run them on seperate ports, or seperate interfaces
[08:07] <bob2> JiveNix: libapache-mod-mono is for apache 1, not 2
[08:07] <JiveNix> oh
[08:07] <JiveNix> where is apache 2 configs located?
[08:07] <dapimp53> I noticed Ubuntu doesnt have MP3 support from the box. I see to use apt-get to get the codecs but what package do I want?
[08:07] <emX> !codecs
[08:07] <ubotu> well, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:08] <La_PaRCa> wow, two in a row
[08:08] <Madpilot> that's got to be ubotu's most-used entry...
[08:08] <desrt> yay for atheros drivers
[08:08] <tritium> time for bed...
[08:08] <emX> dapimp53: once you have the codecs, most audio players (xmms, rhythmbox, etc) will play MP3's just fine.
[08:09] <emX> dapimp53: ogg123, obviously, will continue to just play ogg files, though ;_
[08:09] <La_PaRCa> desrt, connected?
[08:09] <emX> s/:_/$APPROPRIATE_SMILEY
[08:09] <desrt> bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid
[08:09] <desrt> 00:0f:66:5a:3f:21       2437    215     [WPA-PSK-CCMP]   desrt.ca
[08:09] <nickrud> good night, tritium
[08:09] <desrt> mmm.
[08:09] <desrt> they even support CCMP/AES encryption (WPA2)
[08:09] <tritium> good night, nickrud
[08:09] <bob2> JiveNix: /etc/apache2/, surprisingly...
[08:10] <desrt> so now i'm IRCing over AES-encrypted wireless
[08:10] <bob2> JiveNix: but mod-mono won't work with it, no matter how much fiddlign you do
[08:10] <La_PaRCa> desrt, im sure your cybersex is safe from sniffing now... :/
[08:10] <desrt> hah
[08:10] <emX> heh
[08:10] <kamstrumental> Does anybody recommend a movie player other than Totem? Totem does'nt play any movies at all
[08:10] <desrt> yes.  my huge criminal plots are now safe from prying eyes
[08:10] <desrt> kamstrumental; apt-get install totem-xine
[08:10] <emX> what *don't* you want encrypted?
[08:10] <desrt> kamstrumental; that'll make totem play almost everything
[08:11] <desrt> kamstrumental; install w32codecs while you're at it, too
[08:11] <kamstrumental> desrt: can i get that on synaptic as well?
[08:11] <desrt> kamstrumental; yes.  it's in there
[08:11] <desrt> i think w32codecs might be in marallit or something
[08:11] <La_PaRCa> emX, I personally am a good samaritan and leave my network wide open for anyone that wants to use it.
[08:11] <kamstrumental> desrt: i'm a newbie, not comfortable in terminal as of yet lol
[08:11] <desrt> kamstrumental; :)
[08:11] <GeistFloripas> Where could i look for infos about daemons in Ubuntu. I already searched the official wiki but got nothing...
[08:11] <emX> La_PaRCa: wide open network, sure; *my* traffic gets encrypted.
[08:12] <Madpilot> wow, for a "reference browser" amaya sure has lousy CSS rendering...
[08:12] <crimsun> GeistFloripas: what sort of daemons?
[08:12] <emX> GeistFloripas: what kind of information are you looking for?
[08:12] <bob2> Madpilot: you know it predates css, right?
[08:12] <bob2> GeistFloripas: what sort of information?
[08:12] <desrt> wpa_supplicant is an extremely useful program
[08:12] <desrt> it does all sorts of wpa and non-wpa things
[08:12] <GeistFloripas> How to disable them
[08:12] <bob2> GeistFloripas: generally you just uninstall them
[08:13] <La_PaRCa> haha
[08:13] <emX> GeistFloripas: or remove the symlinks from /etc/rc*.d
[08:13] <Madpilot> bob2: that explains much. not much point to it in 2005 then, is there?
[08:13] <emX> Madpilot: nope.
[08:13] <bob2> Madpilot: not for what you're thinking of
[08:13] <Nameeater> is ubuntu's apt repositorys broken? I'm getting Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/warty/Release.gpg  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[08:13] <GeistFloripas> But i want to use, for example, the apache server to learn php. Could i disable it just in most of my sessions, enabling it as needed?
[08:14] <bob2> GeistFloripas: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/*S*apache2
[08:14] <bob2> GeistFloripas: then 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start' when you want it to run
[08:14] <JiveNix> how to restart apache again?
[08:14] <GeistFloripas> Thanks man!
[08:14] <bob2> JiveNix: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[08:14] <JiveNix> for apache 1.3
[08:15] <emX> didn't know about invoke-rc.d; that's a nice feature...
[08:15] <bob2> JiveNix: guess
[08:15] <bob2> hint: the apache1 package is called apache
[08:15] <JiveNix> ok
[08:16] <JiveNix> when i request a .aspx page from apache it tries to download it
[08:16] <JiveNix> i have mod-mono in the modules file
[08:18] <pschulz01> Greetings..
[08:18] <emX> pschulz01: ahoy.
[08:19] <pschulz01> what is the 'prefered' way of mounting a USBkey from the command line?
[08:19] <pschulz01> I am remotely connedct to a Ubuntu box.
[08:19] <emX> pschulz01: 'mount /dev/sda1'
[08:19] <pschulz01> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:20] <emX> pschulz01: either add an entry to fstab or specify a mount point (mount /dev/sda1 /my/usbkey')
[08:20] <kamstrumental> desrt: not able to view any video
[08:20] <kamstrumental> desrt: installed anything that had xine in the name lol
[08:20] <emX> pschulz01: might need to use sudo, too, if you're specifying the mount point on the command line. adding an entry to fstab is easier.
[08:20] <pschulz01> It automatically mounts if I'm directly logged on.
[08:20] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, did you install w32codecs?
[08:21] <desrt> kamstrumental; did you install w32codecs?
[08:21] <kamstrumental> La_PaRCa: nope, could not find them in synaptic
[08:21] <kamstrumental> desrt: nope, could not find them in synaptic
[08:22] <desrt> kamstrumental; i think you need to add some extra repositories
[08:22] <Madpilot> hmmm, the w3c claims amaya supports css. my own site's css validates with w3c's validator. but their browser makes a mess of my site's css. fun...
[08:22] <desrt> !codecs
[08:22] <pschulz01> emX: pmount looks like to go..
[08:22] <desrt> hmm
[08:22] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, thats because they are in marillat
[08:22] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:22] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, let me fetch you a ling to the .deb
[08:22] <emX> pschulz01: that'd be ok, too.
[08:22] <desrt> kamstrumental; go there
[08:22] <nickrud> Madpilot, lol, I'm glad I gave you a mystery :)
[08:22] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: you don't need marillat to get w32codex
[08:23] <nickrud> heh, Madpilot I meant that with all due respect ;P
[08:23] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, true, could get them from mplayerhq
[08:23] <Madpilot> nickrud: I'm keeping myself amused. Ubuntu repos version of amaya is also quite out of date... (8.x, current is 9.x)...
[08:23] <emX> La_PaRCa: or backports...
[08:24] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:24] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:24] <La_PaRCa> emX, are you sure its in backports?
[08:24] <kamstrumental> *confused*
[08:24] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental you need to add the backports repository as explained here
[08:24] <La_PaRCa> !codecs
[08:24] <nickrud> Madpilot, I'm not really suprised, it's not a popular package
[08:24] <ubotu> well, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <emX> La_PaRCa: read output of !codecs ;)
[08:24] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: it must be; I've got it and do not have marillat
[08:24] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, and then, after that, do an update on synaptic and install w32codecs
[08:25] <Madpilot> nickrud: true! I couldn't even get amaya to run at all in win98se...
[08:26] <pschulz01> Next question.. what is the best way to remotely burn CD?
[08:26] <nickrud> Madpilot, like I said, I hadn't looked at amaya for a while. Maybe leaving it out is correct
[08:26] <emX> pschulz01: cdrecord is the standard util for that...
[08:26] <La_PaRCa> emX, according to the wiki, I have to go to repositories, click add and the custom. How come I dont see that option?
[08:27] <nickrud> I just couldn't pass up the chance to mention _something_ ;)
[08:27] <emX> !cdw
[08:27] <ubotu> emX: Are you smoking crack?
[08:27] <emX> no...
[08:27] <emX> pschulz01: cdw - Tool for burning CD's - console version
[08:27] <nickrud> !info cdw
[08:27] <ubotu> cdw: (Tool for burning CD's - console version), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.2.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[08:27] <emX> nickrud: thanks..
[08:27] <pschulz01> emX: I can use X but can't use the filemanager interface.
[08:28] <nickrud> emX, that's how you get package info
[08:28] <emX> pschulz01: cdw should do the trick.
[08:28] <kamstrumental> thanks
[08:28] <mjkelly93> hey guys what command can i use to see what device is at PCI bus 1:2:1?
[08:28] <emX> La_PaRCa: sorry, i don't use synaptic.
[08:29] <pschulz01> emx: Cheers.. downloading now.
[08:29] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: in Syn, go Settings --> Repositories
[08:29] <glick> damn i have soooo much music i dont think i can sort it all
[08:29] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, yeah, but I dont see a settings button
[08:30] <nickrud> glick, try easytag, it's not really easy, but it is pretty powerful
[08:30] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: bottom of the Repos window. next to Authentication
[08:31] <glick> easytag? whats that?
[08:31] <Tomasu> Every so often my brand new kubuntu install just hangs. I need to Alt+SysRq+B or hit reset :( I havent seen any hints as to the causes in dmesg/syslog, except for a ton of really odd logs... like: [sysenter_past_esp+82/117]  sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x75
[08:31] <nickrud> !info easytag
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, dont see any of what you are saying.
[08:31] <glick> i tried to write an mp3 sorter in python
[08:31] <glick> but never got around to finishing it
[08:31] <pschulz01> emX: cdw is 'almost' exactly what I need... except...
[08:31] <glick> !info easytag
[08:31] <pschulz01> it doesn't ceen to be able to write cdrom from sn image (iso).
[08:32] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, my synaptic window looks nothing like whats in the Wiki
[08:32] <emX> pschulz01: ahh. yeah. use growisofs or similar, perhaps?
[08:32] <La_PaRCa> *boggle*
[08:32] <pschulz01> emX: I might have missed this option thogh.
[08:32] <nickrud> glick, it has useful retagging (tags and filename) for mp3's and ogg's.
[08:32] <emX> pschulz01: no, i think you're right. try growisofs.
[08:32] <emX> glick: you could also look at music player daemon (mpd); indexes your music and allows sorting/searching/etc.
[08:32] <pschulz01> emX: I'm going to try gcombust..
[08:33] <JiveNix> whats the best vnc client for ubuntu?
[08:33] <emX> pschulz01: that's graphical.
[08:33] <glick> 461 directories so far
[08:33] <glick> :(
[08:33] <ubotu> easytag: (viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.99.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 667 kB, Installed size: 2088 kB
[08:33] <glick> what about rhytmbox
[08:33] <glick> how is that?
[08:33] <glick> whats that good for?
[08:34] <pschulz01> emX: graphcal is OK.. it's just that the usual way that I burn CD's is through the GNOME filebrowser..
[08:34] <mjkelly93> no takers?    a command to see what device is on PCI BusID 1:2:1?   anyone please?
[08:34] <emX> pschulz01: i thought you needed it on the CLI; try gnomebaker
[08:35] <nickrud> I like rhythbox; but I've had issues with it rereading my 15gb of files. (I ran the same damn system for 4 years; in the last 6 months, I've reinstalled a half dozen times, and rhythmbox has been a sore point)
[08:35] <glick> hmm rhythm box says there is no plugin installed to handle an mp3 file?
[08:35] <nickrud> but, when it works, it is really excellent
[08:35] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: are you in Hoary? Ubuntu 5.04?
[08:36] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, um, yes, of course
[08:36] <La_PaRCa> I am running synaptic 0.55
[08:36] <bob2> glick: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:36] <nickrud> glick, aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad (from universe)
[08:36] <bob2> also linked from the wiki
[08:36] <glick> thanks nickrud
[08:38] <kamstrumental> added repository and installed w32codecs but still not video
[08:38] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, fixed your problem?
[08:38] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, does it say anything at all?
[08:39] <poningru> kamstrumental: what vid are you trying to watch?
[08:39] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, what version of synaptic are you running?
[08:39] <nickrud> kamstrumental, are you using totem-xine?
[08:39] <kamstrumental> no, just totem movie player
[08:39] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: 0.56 or 0.55, depending on where you look...
[08:39] <poningru> kamstrumental: try the totem-xine
[08:39] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: just a sec...
[08:39] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, weird, wanna look what my repo window looks like?
[08:40] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/2080/warbard9ma.png
[08:40] <newbie> anyone know of good pdftohtml convertor
[08:41] <kamstrumental> poningru: how do i access totem-xine
[08:41] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, looks like that in general, but look at the repo window.
[08:41] <poningru> you can get it from synaptic
[08:41] <poningru> and then in sound & Vid
[08:41] <nickrud> kamstrumental, personally, I recommend totem-xine, and, I also do, from ~/gnome2/totem-addons/ , ln -s /usr/lib/win32/* .
[08:42] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: one more screenie coming...
[08:42] <glick> damn its taking forever and a day to load up my shit into rhythm box
[08:42] <glick> hehe
[08:42] <nickrud> s/~/gnome2/.gnome2/
[08:42] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/517/warbard26df.png  <-- shows my repos window
[08:42] <nickrud> damn
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2059/pantallazo6as.png
[08:43] <kamstrumental> nickrud: i am newbie... not so sure of the commands
[08:43] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: wow, that looks nothing like mine at all...
[08:43] <nickrud> kamstrumental, yeah, especially when I give bogus ones
[08:43] <Tattoo> sorry for my behavior earliery everyone
[08:43] <Tattoo> earlier*
[08:43] <kamstrumental> hrmmm
[08:43] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, I know, its weird. Localization issue maybe?
[08:44] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: must be. sorry, I've got no idea how to help further!
[08:44] <nickrud> kamstrumental,  cd ~/.gnome2/totem-addons ; ln -s /usr/lib/win32/* .
[08:45] <kamstrumental> nickrud: that whole string at once?
[08:45] <Tattoo> when you install the permanant ubuntu stuff...do you have to configure a bunch of stuff?
[08:45] <bob2> Tattoo: you mean when you install ubuntu to a hard disk?
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> Tattoo, what do you mean?
[08:45] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: actually, spoke too soon... can you click on the boxes beside the repos listings?
[08:45] <nickrud> kamstrumental, yes. you can cut and paste after your name and the comma
[08:45] <Tattoo> yes
[08:45] <Tattoo> thats what i mean
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, yeah, but no authentication or settings buttons
[08:46] <bob2> Tattoo: most things are configured automatically for you
[08:46] <glick> does rhythmbox recusively go into sub directories?
[08:46] <Tattoo> awesome
[08:46] <Tattoo> well i guess ima go ahead and do that =(
[08:46] <bob2> Tattoo: it really depends what you want to do
[08:46] <nickrud> glick, yes
[08:46] <Tattoo> well
[08:46] <Tattoo> does it come with gnome and all that
[08:46] <La_PaRCa> Tattoo, yeah
[08:46] <Tattoo> kk
[08:47] <Tattoo> im scared though
[08:47] <Tattoo> because if i cant get it to make configu
[08:47] <Tattoo> config*
[08:47] <Tattoo> ill be screwed
[08:47] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: I think there's a Spanish language ubuntu group - asked there?
[08:47] <glick> damn i think rhythm box got stuck :(
[08:47] <glick> keeps saying loading songs but its not adding any more to the list
[08:48] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, noone there
[08:48] <Tattoo> wait
[08:48] <pax> bob2 if I give ubuntu say 5GB partition / and give it my existing /home partion (existing with another distro) will the installer be nice to accept it and have grub pick an the extra entry from ubuntu without destroying the existing list?
[08:48] <Madpilot> glick: I had trouble w/ rythymbox indexing. try muine instead!
[08:48] <Tattoo> like when i configure my wavelan thing
[08:48] <Tattoo> like...
[08:48] <Tattoo> how do i add a wireless network connection?
[08:48] <pax> partition* ugh
[08:48] <glick> Madpilot, muine?
[08:48] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: huh...
[08:48] <Tattoo> and put the key in..and all that stuff
[08:48] <Madpilot> !info muine
[08:48] <bob2> pax: I think so
[08:48] <ubotu> muine: (Simple playlist based music player), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.2-5ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 246 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[08:48] <bob2> pax: sharing /gome may or may not work, tho
[08:48] <Tattoo> !info knoppix
[08:49] <Tattoo> =(
[08:49] <bob2> pax: e.g. if you run gnome 2.0 on the other system, I suspect gnome on ubuntu will explode
[08:49] <bob2> Tattoo: ubuntu has nothing to do with knoppix, thus the bot doesn't care
[08:49] <Tattoo> lol
[08:49] <Tattoo> okay
[08:49] <bob2> Tattoo: come back when you have it installed, and have read around wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <Tattoo> knoppix is a whole other distro
[08:49] <Tattoo> ?
[08:49] <emX> yes
[08:49] <Madpilot> glick: another music player. similar to rb, but seems more stable
[08:49] <Tattoo> so your saying i need to leaven now?
[08:49] <Tattoo> leave*
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> knoppix is very handy to have around however. :P
[08:50] <La_PaRCa> gonna restart gnome in english, see what happens :P
[08:50] <Tattoo> its german
[08:50] <pax> bob2 what's the desktop have to do with it? you mean existing conf and settings on /home ?
[08:50] <emX> i don't think anyone said you should leave...
[08:50] <Tattoo> ...
[08:50] <bob2> pax: yes
 Tattoo: come back when you have it installed, and have read around wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <Tattoo> installed what
[08:50] <bob2> Tattoo: Installed ubuntu, of course.
[08:50] <Tattoo> umm
[08:50] <Tattoo> i doubt ill be able to get my internet working
[08:51] <glick> from what id did load i have 6 days and 20 hours and 30 minutes of continuous play time :)
[08:51] <someone-123> why can't I view video through Totem?
[08:51] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, nope, that wasnt it...
[08:51] <pax> bob2: I dunno man, but in this case, will it be safe to have one desktop on one distro and another on the other, say Gnome on Ubuntu and KDE on the xxx distro?
[08:51] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: sorry?
[08:52] <bob2> pax: yes
[08:52] <bob2> someone-123: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:52] <pax> bob2: thanks.
[08:52] <bob2> someone-123: that's linked from the FAQ
[08:52] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, I am a little weirded out.
[08:52] <nickrud> ubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[08:52] <ubotu> nickrud: okay
[08:53] <La_PaRCa> ubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, then do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[08:53] <ubotu> ...but totem-xine is already something else...
[08:53] <pax> or, reset everything before installing Ubuntu, say delete all Gnome and its related apps crap
[08:53] <nickrud> !totem-xine
[08:53] <ubotu> hmm... totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[08:53] <nickrud> ok
[08:53] <La_PaRCa> ubotu totem-xine is sudo apt-get install totem-xine, then do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[08:53] <ubotu> ...but totem-xine is already something else...
[08:53] <La_PaRCa> !totme-xine
[08:53] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: I give up, what is it?
[08:53] <La_PaRCa> !totem-xine
[08:53] <bob2> you can talk to the bot in /msg
[08:53] <Tattoo> la da de la da da
[08:54] <Madpilot> Laney: wierded out by what?
[08:54] <La_PaRCa> my typing skills today are subpar
[08:54] <nickrud> ubotu tell nickrud about totem-xine
[08:54] <pax> what ver of Gnome Hoary is using?
[08:54] <bob2> 2.10
[08:55] <pax> k, thanks
[08:55] <memoryleek> i just installed ubuntu and my sound isn't working...how do I configure sound cards? my motherboard has onboard sound and i have a sound card installed...i want to use the card
[08:55] <pax> !sound
[08:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:56] <Tattoo> la da de la da da
[08:56] <Tattoo> !sound
[08:56] <memoryleek> thanks
[08:57] <giant> what are your favorite P2P clients for linux?
[08:57] <asdasd> how to mount floopy gues
[08:57] <Tattoo> <--- bored
[08:57] <the_walrus> does anyone here use noip?
[08:57] <RichardC> i hate it
[08:57] <RichardC> used to
[08:57] <RichardC> try dyndns.org
[08:58] <asdasd> help me
[08:58] <RichardC> no-ip kept, well, not working
[08:58] <the_walrus> i just cant get the startup script to work thats all :/
[08:58] <asdasd> how to mount my sloppy
[08:58] <bob2> Madpilot: disable it in the bios, if possible
[08:58] <asdasd> *f
[08:58] <RichardC> i would edit my ip manually
[08:58] <the_walrus> I haven't had any probles with no-ip YET
[08:58] <emX> asdasd: mount /dev/fd0 on the command line...
[08:58] <pax> mount -w /dev/fd0 /floppy
[08:58] <the_walrus> i really only use it so I can ssh into my box
[08:58] <asdasd> ty
[08:58] <pax> -w for read/write
[08:59] <RichardC> when is breezy due for release?
[08:59] <pax> october
[08:59] <RichardC> cool
[09:00] <La_PaRCa> can anyone tell me why my synaptic repositories dialog (http://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo9zi.png) looks nothing like the one in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto) ?
[09:00] <pschulz01> emX: Still here? Thanks for that.. gnomebaker worked a treat!
[09:01] <emX> pschulz01: yep. great! i like it, too.
[09:01] <Madpilot> bob2: sorry?
[09:01] <giant> Hello everyone
[09:01] <pax> doesnt matter what it looks like, you can put whatver you want in sources.list
[09:01] <bob2> bah
[09:01] <giant> i'm looking at maybe how to do something
[09:01] <bob2> La_PaRCa: perhaps it's for an old version
[09:01] <Tattoo> anyone in here have skype
[09:01] <Tattoo> ?
[09:01] <bob2> La_PaRCa: you can update the wiki
[09:01] <pax> Tattoo: I do, wanna give me a call? (jk)
[09:02] <giant> I remember seeing at one time a short cut in the right click menu for a folder that would open a terminal session and set pwd to that folder
[09:02] <bob2> which is gone in breezy
[09:02] <Tattoo> ...
[09:02] <La_PaRCa> bob2, um, doubt it, because Madpilot's dialog looks like that...
[09:02] <Tattoo> im boreed
[09:02] <bob2> unless you install a special package
[09:02] <bob2> La_PaRCa: if it's the same as in wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's the warty version of synaptic
[09:02] <giant> is it hard to add?
[09:02] <eli> a question for everyone, any of you ever try to work with the fglrx driver?
[09:02] <Tattoo> pax do you really have skype?
[09:03] <ugo> JDahl: damm...its barfing about the reiserfs partition
[09:03] <refuze2looze> how do i install the windows fonts in ubuntu?
[09:03] <bob2> giant: it's a single package.  apt-cache search terminal nautilus, I guess
[09:03] <pax> Tattoo: you are on Linux, how can you get bored. Yes I have skype
[09:03] <r0d> hey bob2  when i compile drivers w/ make they go into my old /lib/module/'kernel' instead of the new one
[09:03] <bob2> eli: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <Tattoo> pax, im not on linux
[09:03] <Tattoo> whats your ID?
[09:03] <emX> sirens, ambulances, drunks, yelling, bright lights etc.
[09:03] <bob2> r0d: no, they go in the directory corressponding to the kernel headers you used
[09:03] <giant> bob2, thanks... I'll check it out
[09:03] <pax> Tattoo: then dont sit next to me or call me :p
[09:03] <giant> I wasn't sure where to start
[09:03] <La_PaRCa> bob2, but I am using hoary repos.
[09:03] <bob2> (I dont know the package name, I'm using hoary)
[09:03] <Tattoo> what
[09:03] <eli> bob2 , i know about that. did it and it worked. it just seems from the forums that people really get themselves in deep trouble with the driver
[09:04] <Tattoo> whats your ip fool
[09:04] <darkwise> whorey
[09:04] <Tattoo> wtf
[09:04] <Tattoo> your ID
[09:04] <bob2> La_PaRCa: yes, indeed, no one has updated the images on the wiki
[09:04] <pax> Tattoo: get Ubuntu and I'll tell you :)
[09:04] <Tattoo> ^_^
[09:04] <whyameye> where is the primary harddisk mounted in ubuntu?
[09:04] <emX> pax: that's a sensitive subject
[09:04] <bob2> eli: yes, they sometimes get terrible advice on the forums, and get stuck in big holes
[09:04] <bob2> whyameye: nowhere, in general
[09:04] <Tattoo> yo
[09:04] <dapimp53> I am trying to use the Snaptic Package Manager and I am getting this error: dpkg: Failed to open package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available'  for reading: No such file or directory. What do I need to do. I need to remove a package
[09:04] <Tattoo> this is a deformed smiley: ^_-
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> gonna remove the sucker and reinstall completely
[09:04] <bob2> dapimp53: er, why don't you have this file?
[09:05] <whyameye> bob2, so how can I find out how much disk space I have used and have available?
[09:05] <bob2> La_PaRCa: synaptic? that won't help.
[09:05] <dapimp53> I wish I knew
[09:05] <pax> whyameye: fdisk -l as root should tell you
[09:05] <bob2> whyameye: 'df -h' will show both values for each mounted partition
[09:05] <eli> bob2 , sadly yes. i was one of the victims a few days ago when i had fglrx already working. then after tinkering with the evil drivers from ati did i find out it was not necessary
[09:05] <La_PaRCa> bob2, well, I have no idea why mine looks nothing like anyone else's thats using hoary
[09:05] <dapimp53> I was in the middle of installing tcl8.4-dev and the computer crashed
[09:05] <emX> whyameye: and as a third option, simply 'mount' will tell you what's mounted.
[09:05] <bob2> dapimp53: 'sudo dselect update'
[09:05] <bob2> eli: ah
[09:05] <bob2> La_PaRCa: how on earth would reinstalling change that?
[09:06] <dapimp53> bob2: is that all?
[09:06] <La_PaRCa> bob2, maybe it kept some weird config from warty, I dont know...
[09:06] <bob2> dapimp53: yes
[09:06] <pax> are you sure you're using Hoary, cat /etc/issue
[09:06] <bob2> La_PaRCa: that's exceedingly unlikely, and would not be affected by reinstalling it
[09:06] <eli> anyone know if breezy is stable?
[09:06] <whyameye> excellent! thanks!
[09:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are there any good p2p programs for linux out there?
[09:06] <bob2> eli: no, it's not
[09:06] <emX> eli: see topic.
[09:06] <eli> :(
[09:06] <pax> Breezy is not and will not be stable until October
[09:07] <eli> !topic
[09:07] <bob2> eli: dude, 6 month release cycle
[09:07] <eli> i know. its just like b-day... always want more =}
[09:07] <kamstrumental> nickrud: did what site said, still does not work
[09:07] <fusion> Hey
[09:08] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: plenty, apt-cache search p2p
[09:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:08] <fusion> any way of installing xvid easiley?
[09:08] <eli> about to do that now fusion
[09:08] <nickrud> kamstrumental, worked for me, what problems do you have?
[09:08] <eli> i will get back to you in a few minutes if it works
[09:08] <fusion> alright man
[09:08] <bob2> fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:08] <bob2> fusion: which is linked from the FAQ
[09:08] <Tattoo> yoyoyoyoyooyoyooyo
[09:08] <La_PaRCa> bob2, you were right. Wanna help me figure this out? else I wont be able to sleep...
[09:08] <fusion> are we not allowed to talk about that?
[09:09] <kamstrumental> still says I need codecs
[09:09] <kamstrumental> but they ARE installed
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, what player?
[09:09] <bob2> La_PaRCa: what's there to figure out?
[09:09] <pax> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:09] <bob2> at a guess, you used broken "baclports" on warty
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> bob2, why it looks different even if its the same version. its driving me crazy!
[09:09] <kamstrumental> La_PraRCa: Totem
[09:09] <pax> sudo apt-get install lame gstreamer
[09:09] <fusion> Where do I download Point2Play.deb?
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> bob2, I dont even use it that often, but arghhh!!!
[09:10] <bob2> La_PaRCa: chill out dude
[09:10] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, did you do the thing in ,totem/totem-addons?
[09:10] <nickrud> kamstrumental, does ~/.gnome2/totem-addons have the links, such as ivvideo.dll?
[09:10] <bob2> La_PaRCa: and explain every non-standard hting you did, and paste /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, and the output of 'apt-cache policy synaptic'
[09:11] <Madpilot> !fonts
[09:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:11] <Tattoo> s3x
[09:11] <Madpilot> refuze2looze: check the URL that ubotu just posted...
[09:11] <eli> if i were to install mplayer, would i use the i386 or i686? i have an amd64 cpu but im running i386
[09:11] <nickrud> *mplayer.hu
[09:12] <ValheruLord> are there any good news servers for linux and ubuntu help
[09:12] <La_PaRCa> bob2: modified sources.list to point to hoary instead of warty and did a dist-upgrade
[09:12] <kamstrumental> nickrud: it does not have that specific .dll you mentioned
[09:12] <fusion> Anyone have Point2Play?
[09:13] <nickrud> kamstrumental, does ~/.gnome2/totem-addons have any links in it yet?
[09:13] <emX> fusion: used it once; got it via a subscription at transgaming.
[09:13] <La_PaRCa> fusion, Point2Play is not free.
[09:13] <kamstrumental> nickrud: yes, i l
[09:13] <kamstrumental> nuckrud: i followed the how to...
[09:13] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, what file did you download from the site?
[09:14] <kamstrumental> La_PaRCa: the "all" file
[09:14] <fusion> Does it work good?
[09:14] <emX> fusion: it was ok. not great.
[09:15] <fusion> oh
[09:15] <fusion> is there a deb package for winex?
[09:15] <eli> !winex
[09:15] <ubotu> eli: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:15] <La_PaRCa> can you paste whats inside /usr/lib/win32 to pastebin?
[09:15] <bob2> fusion: if you pay transgaming, yes
[09:16] <bob2> La_PaRCa: are you going to paste the rest of what I asked for?
[09:16] <La_PaRCa> bob2, sprry, I didnt see what you asked for. Could you repeat?
[09:16] <bob2> La_PaRCa: scroll up
[09:17] <nickrud> kamstrumental, you *must* not run this as root
[09:17] <fusion> is that the only way to get it?
[09:17] <bob2> fusion: by paying? es.
[09:18] <La_PaRCa> cd #flood
[09:18] <kamstrumental> nickrud: argh, why?
[09:18] <La_PaRCa> duh!
[09:18] <fusion> winex is not free?
[09:18] <r0d> bob2 the driver i installed automaticlly went into the old /lib/modules. do i have to mod the makefile?
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm amule is kinda neat
[09:18] <nickrud> kamstrumental, because, the links must go into each user's directory, as the wiki link I gave you points out
[09:18] <bob2> fusion: correct
[09:18] <bob2> r0d: no idea
[09:18] <fusion> oh
[09:18] <fusion> I wounder if it even works good
[09:18] <bob2> r0d: if it's going to the wrong place, probably
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there something more like kazza lite k++ though?
[09:19] <pax> what's wrong with ol' Gnutella?
[09:20] <kamstrumental> nuckrud: so should i delete the folder and everytthing through the root and start over in regular terminal?
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats Gnutella?
[09:20] <pax> LimeWire is out there.
[09:20] <nickrud> kamstrumental, yes
[09:20] <bob2> La_PaRCa: so, you have hoary's synaptic
[09:20] <fusion> xvid anyone?
[09:21] <bob2> fusion: 17:08:41 @         bob2 | fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <La_PaRCa> bob2, sure do
[09:21] <nickrud> kamstrumental, as a general rule, in ubuntu do _nothing_ in the Applications->System Tools->Root Terminal
[09:21] <fusion> then is xvid not allowed?
[09:21] <bob2> fusion: "not allowed"?
[09:21] <nickrud> kamstrumental, use sudo in a normal terminal to do the special root actions
[09:22] <bob2> fusion: its patent-encumebered, yes, so Ubuntu doesn't include it on the cd.  that page provides simple instructions to get support for it.
[09:22] <kamstrumental> nickrud: lesson learned :) what is command to delete folder?
[09:22] <pax> rm -rf
[09:23] <nickrud> kamstrumental, from a normal terminal, sudo rm -r /root/.gnome2/totem-addons
[09:23] <La_PaRCa> bob2, so no idea why it looks different? this is fun
[09:23] <bob2> La_PaRCa: where have you shown us that it's different to anything?
[09:24] <bob2> La_PaRCa: as I said, yours will not look like the images on the wiki
[09:24] <kamstrumental> nickrud: i still have the $ at the command prompt in the terminal... it is not the root terminal.
[09:24] <jUiCeR> is there a quick way to bridge 2 internet connects
[09:24] <La_PaRCa> bob2, do you have hoary synaptic?
[09:24] <jUiCeR> like u can do in windows
[09:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so limewire will run in linux?
[09:24] <emX> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes
[09:24] <pax> sure will.
[09:25] <nickrud> kamstrumental, $ is user, # is root (as a general rule, not gospel)
[09:25] <emX> kamstrumental: also, 'whoami' will tell you...who you are.
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now thats a program i can deal with amule seems to be porn driven by the names of all the servers >.<
[09:25] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, all praise the shell?
[09:25] <emX> kamstrumental: in case you're confused.
[09:25] <Madpilot> bob2: La_PaRCa posted this Syn screenie earlier: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2059/pantallazo6as.png
[09:25] <nickrud> whoami is a good thing :)\
[09:26] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, you are running hoary right? does synaptic look like the wiki?
[09:26] <La_PaRCa> heres my original question
[09:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm i don't seem to see a linux link on there website am i in the wrong place?
[09:26] <La_PaRCa> can anyone tell me why my synaptic repositories dialog (http://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo9zi.png) looks nothing like the one in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto) ?
[09:26] <memoryleek> my sound still isn't working...can i get some help?
[09:26] <emX> there's lots of times when i wish i had run whoami first; i've learned not to rely on shell prompts for important stuff like that.
[09:26] <kamstrumental> daren@esperanza:~$ sudo rm -r /root/.gnome2/totem-addons
[09:26] <kamstrumental> Password:
[09:26] <kamstrumental> rm: cannot remove `/root/.gnome2/totem-addons': No such file or directory
[09:27] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/LimeWireSoftOther.zip
[09:27] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: yup, my Syn looks identical to the wiki one
[09:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax thanx man
[09:27] <La_PaRCa> w.e.i.r.d.
[09:27] <nickrud> kamstrumental, then, just ignore the old stuff, and do the link as yourself. No loss
[09:27] <bob2> La_PaRCa: yes
[09:28] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: what happens if you update Syn itself thru itself?
[09:28] <La_PaRCa> nothing, says its already up to date
[09:28] <kamstrumental> nickrud: in other words leave the stuff i just installed alone and redo in normal terminal/
[09:28] <kamstrumental> ?
[09:28] <pax> be very careful with rm -rf when root please :)
[09:28] <Whistler> how can i edit grup preferences?
[09:28] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, yeah
[09:28] <Whistler> gurb
[09:28] <Whistler> grub
[09:29] <kamstrumental> thanks.. i hate being a newbie.
[09:29] <emX> Whistler: 'sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[09:29] <Tattoo> i love me your
[09:29] <emX> kamstrumental: it passes quickly.
[09:29] <jUiCeR> anyone
[09:29] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: no idea. can you switch back to English Gnome?
[09:29] <jUiCeR> bridging network connects?
[09:29] <nickrud> kamstrumental, in case you don't know, ~/.gnome2/totem-addons means /home/kamstrumental/.gnome2/totem-addons
[09:29] <jUiCeR> like if i want to bridge eth0 and eth1
[09:29] <jUiCeR> ethernet and wireless
[09:29] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, already tried, didnt work.
[09:30] <emX> jUiCeR: don't think there's a graphical way a la windows, but google 'iptables bridge'; it's a little complex.
[09:30] <IceDC571> i just noticed something.. does ubuntu not enable any firewall by default?
[09:30] <bob2> La_PaRCa: run 'sudo /usr/bin/synaptic' from a terminal
[09:30] <bob2> IceDC571: of course, there's no need to
[09:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax is there a howto on installing this??
[09:31] <IceDC571> bob2: just wondering, thats nice to know :)
[09:31] <nickrud> IceDC571, shorewall is in main, if you need one
[09:31] <La_PaRCa> bob2, no such file
[09:31] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, check the guide (folks here hate it and so do I but it'll fix you up)
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:31] <bob2> La_PaRCa: then "someone" has screwed up your system and removed the real synaptic
[09:31] <nickrud> heh
[09:31] <Madpilot> IceDC571: install firestarter if you want
[09:31] <bob2> La_PaRCa: what does 'which synaptic' print out/
[09:31] <IceDC571> bob2: do you really think its safe enough to not use any hardware or software firewall with linux?
[09:31] <La_PaRCa> its in /usr/sbin
[09:32] <bob2> La_PaRCa: ah
[09:32] <La_PaRCa> bob2, which seems fine by me
[09:32] <La_PaRCa> :P
[09:32] <bob2> IceDC571: on the default system, yes, since it has no network services listening at all
[09:32] <IceDC571> well, i installed firestarter before, and it was working.. does that GUI frontend automatically activate the firewall?
[09:32] <bob2> IceDC571: if you plan to run servers, you may need to configure a firewall
[09:33] <bob2> La_PaRCa: go to help -> about, what version does it say?
[09:33] <IceDC571> bob2: what built in firewall support does ubuntu have, is it iptables?
[09:33] <La_PaRCa> 0.56
[09:33] <bob2> IceDC571: iptables is what all modern linux systems use, yes
[09:33] <pax> iptables is used by most distros
[09:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax , your not the onlyone that hate this i do now too >.<
[09:34] <bob2> IceDC571: firestarter and shorewall (and veerything else) are just wrappers that write and load iptable rules
[09:34] <nickrud> IceDC571, and, if you run a serice installed from mutiverse and universe. there is no promise that the service is not open to the net
[09:34] <IceDC571> bob2: alright, i knew that but i wasnt sure i was thinking right.. thanks for confirming that
[09:34] <danielle> i need help desperately
[09:34] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's just because it gives blind command with no explanation
[09:34] <IceDC571> danielle: whats wrong?
[09:34] <bob2> La_PaRCa: well, I have 0.56 and get a similar dialog to that on the wiki
[09:35] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: I've got 0.56 as well...
[09:35] <danielle> i was toying around in kde earlier, then i changed some settings in kdm config, and now when i boot up, instead of getting kdm, or even gdm, i get a gnome login (this one) under my girlfriend's account and it just logs straight in.
[09:36] <danielle> if i kill it, it just logs right back in. wtf
[09:36] <pax> danielle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:36] <bob2> "someone" configured kdm or gdm to do that
[09:36] <La_PaRCa> bob2, now you made me afraid... running all sorts of security checks on my own machine
[09:36] <bob2> danielle: run 'sudo gdmsetup' and disable automatic login, I would think
[09:37] <kamstrumental> what is the command to make a dir
[09:37] <pax> mkdir
[09:37] <bob2> kamstrumental: mkdir
[09:37] <danielle> I never set up any automatic login to begin with
[09:37] <danielle> pax i have done that several times
[09:37] <bob2> danielle: so, run that command and see
[09:37] <danielle> it's not working
[09:38] <bob2> what's "not working"?
[09:38] <danielle> it's not setting kdm as my login manager
[09:38] <bob2> danielle: so, ignore that
[09:39] <pax> danielle: try what bob said, if not then check kcontrol > login manager
[09:39] <bob2> and run 'sudo gdmsetup' and see if someone made it automatically login
[09:39] <danielle> how am i supposed to run it without a display{
[09:39] <danielle> ?
[09:39] <emX-asleepNstuff> g'night all.
[09:39] <pax> w/o display meaning no x?
[09:40] <danielle> i'm in x, but it's not root's x
[09:40] <anacron> good morning ubuntu-users
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i think i got it >.<
[09:40] <bob2> danielle: you don't need root's X
[09:40] <danielle> oh..i need to add this user to sudo i guess
[09:40] <pax> huh, why in bob's anem would you run x as root?
[09:40] <bob2> you should never be running root as X anyway
[09:40] <dyllan> hi guys :)
[09:40] <Computer__Guru> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there's a new foamy
[09:40] <danielle> bob2, of course
[09:40] <Computer__Guru> handmade clothes
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru yea i know ^_^
[09:41] <Computer__Guru> i already added it to my (100% complete) foamy archive :-D
[09:41] <dyllan> i cant seem to find the win32codec in synaptic? is there something i need to change to be able to download the wmv codec? :)
[09:41] <sheepy> anyone here played nexuiz?
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Computer__Guru awsome ^_^
[09:41] <danielle> how do i make it so that this user can use sudo?
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok lime wire won't run >.<
[09:41] <pax> dyllan: add backports to your sources.list
[09:42] <pax> is it okay to talk about backports here?
[09:42] <La_PaRCa> ok, I am tempted to give up on this synaptic ordeal
[09:42] <dyllan> backports... hmm ok
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> you don't, BUT you can: su yourRegularUsername -
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> then
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> sudo /etc/sudoers
[09:42] <b_e_n_z> danielle, /etc/sudoers
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> err
[09:42] <Tattoo> s3c
[09:42] <danielle> b_e_n_z, thanks
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> sudo pico /etc/sudoers
[09:42] <Tattoo> what is that bath
[09:42] <Tattoo> path
[09:42] <Tattoo> /usr/src/linux
[09:42] <IceDC571> Computer__Guru: dont you need to use visudo?
[09:42] <Tattoo> or something like that
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax can you give me a hand here i must have done something wrong >.<
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> b_e_n_z: that will not work if she isnt on a username that's in wheel
[09:43] <Computer__Guru> IceDC571: hell no.
[09:43] <IceDC571> okay
[09:43] <Computer__Guru> IceDC571: sudo pico /etc/sudoers
[09:43] <Tattoo> yo yo yo yo
[09:43] <Tattoo> whawt is that path?
[09:43] <Tattoo> to the linux tree
[09:43] <pax> what IceDC571 said, use visudo to be safe
[09:43] <La_PaRCa> did kamstrumental fix his problem?
[09:43] <nickrud> kamstrumental, how's it going on tome?
[09:43] <nickrud> *totme
[09:43] <Computer__Guru> danielle: what you need to do is this: su YourRegularUsername
[09:43] <Computer__Guru> then
[09:43] <danielle> there are no users in my /etc/sudoers .. so how am i able to sudo in my regular account?
[09:43] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, dvorak?
[09:44] <danielle> Computer__Guru,  i have done that
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> sudo pico /etc/sudoers
[09:44] <danielle> i AM my regular user name in a terminal
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> and add both of your usernames to is
[09:44] <danielle> done that too
[09:44] <danielle> no user name is in it.
[09:44] <nickrud> lol, no, close to bedtime
[09:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax i followd the howto and such and i click on the icon and nothin...>.<
[09:44] <danielle> that file does not have any names
[09:44] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what icon?
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> does it have ANYTHING?
[09:44] <danielle> i don't know how i'm even able to sudo but i am
[09:44] <danielle> yeah
[09:44] <danielle> but not my user name that i sudo with
[09:45] <firestorm> Hi. Trying to get Java applet support in firefox. From synaptic, I installed sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2dk1.5 but when I load firefox it doesn't load applet. Typing about:plugins at URL bar also doesn't show java plugin installed
[09:45] <kamstrumental> argghhh. *pulling out hair*
[09:45] <danielle> # User privilege specification / root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:45] <Computer__Guru> danielle: because your main username is in wheel, do this
[09:45] <danielle> add this account to that grouP/
[09:45] <Computer__Guru> danielle: add "NewUserName ALL=(ALL) ALL" to /etc/sudoers
[09:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax the one that the how to did i followd the commands (copy/paste) and i gusse it installed it but when i click on the icon that it created in gnome panel nothing
[09:45] <kamstrumental> i repeated the steps to get the codecs in for Totem and it did not work
[09:45] <Computer__Guru> no, dont do that
[09:45] <Computer__Guru> just put this account in /etc/sudoers
[09:46] <kamstrumental> maybe MPlayer?
[09:46] <pax> firestorm: flashplayer-mozilla is your best bet
[09:46] <danielle> Computer__Guru, newusername or THIS u ser name?
[09:46] <nickrud> kamstrumental, do, as your your regular user, in a normal terminal, cd ~
[09:46] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, chill
[09:46] <Computer__Guru> the username you want to be able to sudo
[09:46] <firestorm> pax: how would flash help for java applet?
[09:46] <Computer__Guru> then save /etc/sudoers
[09:46] <firestorm> pax: also, flashplayer-mozilla is already installed
[09:46] <Computer__Guru> then type exit to go back to the username of your desktop
[09:46] <Computer__Guru> then try: sudo su -
[09:47] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: did you edit liwire.desktop?
[09:47] <Computer__Guru> and you should become root
[09:47] <pax> firestorm: brain fart on my part, sorry.
[09:47] <firestorm> pax: all good :)
[09:47] <danielle> there's nothing about automatically logging in any users
[09:47] <danielle> my system is just f'ed up somehow
[09:47] <Computer__Guru> danielle: can you sudo with that name now?
[09:47] <danielle> yeah
[09:48] <danielle> thanks
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> okay
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> let me check
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> we'll fix the other part too
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> type
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> sudo gdmsetup
[09:48] <danielle> now i want kdm, or hell, even gdm, to work when i boot.
[09:48] <danielle> i did that already
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax yes i did but let me see if i saved it or not
[09:48] <La_PaRCa> firestorm, look for a file named  libjavaplugin_oji.so in the java directory then go to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and do a link to the java file
[09:48] <danielle> and as i said, there's no mention of any automatic logins
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> okay, type: ps auxww | grep gdm
[09:48] <Computer__Guru> what's it say?
[09:48] <nickrud> kamstrumental, you are still trying to do this as root. You must do it as yourself.
[09:49] <Computer__Guru> send me a message, we'll get you done
[09:49] <danielle> and i'm in my girlfriend's account, stumbling my way through qwerty hell
[09:49] <b_e_n_z> does #debian bad the whole world from joining?
[09:49] <kamstrumental> nickrud: i swear i amnot doing it in root
[09:49] <b_e_n_z> does #debian ban the whole world from joining?
[09:49] <La_PaRCa> firestorm, got that?
[09:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax yes it's saved
[09:49] <danielle> Computer__Guru, nothing..i closed gdmsetup already
[09:49] <kamstrumental> nickrud: i opened normal terminal and id commands as explained on site
[09:50] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, go to /home/daren/.totem/totem-addons and do ls
[09:50] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: cant start it from console either?
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax was i supposed to do this from the directory that i downloaded limewire from
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax i tryed but don't know the correct command
[09:50] <nickrud> kamstrumental, your terminal prompt is root@esperanza ; that means root to me
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought it was lime wire
[09:51] <pax> ./limewire from its dir
[09:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax i mean ./limewire
[09:52] <nickrud> kamstrumental, it's almost 3am here; I've got to call it a night.
[09:52] <La_PaRCa> ... why does my left hand smell like female genitalia?
[09:52] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: go back your steps and double check all was done right is all I can suggest
[09:52] <kamstrumental> nickrud: no it says "daren@esperanza".. yea me too.
[09:52] <La_PaRCa> kamstrumental, I can try to help you if you wanna hold for a little longer
[09:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax ok
[09:53] <kamstrumental> La_PaRCa: err, yeah... i appreciate everyones help... i don't mean to be difficult
[09:53] <nickrud> kamstrumental, no, that's just the directory you're working in: root@espernanza:/home/daren
[09:53] <giant> ok I have 2 copies of mplayer that are frozen and won't close
[09:53] <nickrud> kamstrumental, it should be something like daren@esperanza:/home/daren
[09:53] <giant> I knjow I can just kill the process
[09:54] <giant> but what is the command again to list processes?
[09:54] <giant> brain fart
[09:54] <b_e_n_z> giant: ps -ef
[09:54] <giant> thank you
[09:54] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, thanks, if you would
[09:54] <pax> what's wrong with using pwd to know where you are?
[09:54] <La_PaRCa> never knew if firestorm got the plugin to work...
[09:55] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, more than half the time, you never know if your help works, only if it didn't ;)
[09:55] <nickrud> night all
[09:55] <giant> I just used synapt-get to install mplayer... what would make it hang like that?
[09:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax do i need java installed?
[09:56] <Computer__Guru> danielle: glad I could help :) thank you, drive through :)
[09:56] <pax> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hell yeah it's based on it
[09:56] <anubis> what happened to flashplayer-mozilla?
[09:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax well theres the trouble i don't have java >.<
[09:57] <Tattoo> emX
[09:57] <Shufla> hello :)
[09:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !java
[09:58] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[09:58] <b_e_n_z> the sablevm in hoary doesn't run eclipse
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> is there a platformless laszlo server out yet?
[09:59] <Computer__Guru> b_e_n_z: yeah youre gonna have to install the j2re
[09:59] <b_e_n_z> Computer__Guru, i thought it runs on tomcat
[09:59] <giant> totem sucks
[10:00] <giant> I can't play ANY video files that I give it
[10:00] <giant> asf, wmv, mpg
[10:00] <Computer__Guru> it does, but it needs java
[10:00] <giant> NOTYHING
[10:00] <Shufla> giant: try xine || mplayer
[10:00] <giant> mplayer is hanging on EVERYTHING
[10:00] <giant> let me try xine
[10:00] <stkoskjasd> how can I access my floppy drive using ubuntu...I am using the live cd version?
[10:00] <b_e_n_z> totem is based on xine lib i think
[10:01] <pax> !totem-xine
[10:01] <ubotu> totem-xine is probably sudo apt-get install totem-xine, the do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[10:01] <Shufla> well. in my situation xine plays much more videos than totem
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> mplayer plays everything, especially if you have hella codecs
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this dosen't exist does it?
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> !mplayer-install
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:02] <Shufla> situation complicates when you have 64bit system ;)
[10:02] <Computer__Guru> okay, he msg's it now, type !mplayer-install
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause um syn won't take it >.<
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> ubotu forget mplayer-install
[10:03] <ubotu> i forgot mplayer-install, Computer__Guru
[10:03] <stkoskjasd> !mplayer-install
[10:03] <ubotu> stkoskjasd: I give up, what is it?
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> ubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-$CPU, then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.
[10:03] <ubotu> Computer__Guru: okay
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> okay, he shouldnt msg it anymore
[10:03] <Computer__Guru> he should show it in chan
[10:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pax can i pm you for a sec?
[10:04] <pax> go for it
[10:04] <Computer__Guru> or in your case mplayer-amd64
[10:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[10:06] <Computer__Guru> how much faster do you think my system would run if i compiled all my hardware into the kernel?
[10:07] <Computer__Guru> and turned off pretty much all modules
[10:07] <Zibar> the installer doesnt seem to support my sata drives ... as i only have sata drives on my system, im about to abandon ubuntu entirely .... any good advice ?
[10:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you copy from x-chat to say a text document?
[10:07] <The_Vox> Computer__Guru: why install the build deps for mplayer if you are goingto install a binary mplayer?
[10:07] <anubis> what happened to flashplayer-mozilla?
[10:07] <Computer__Guru> The_Vox: this has been mentioned before, allow me to fix
[10:07] <The_Vox> ChurcH_of_FoamY: select text with left mouse button, paste on document middle mouse button
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> ubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update,  then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.
[10:08] <ubotu> ...but mplayer-install is already something else...
[10:08] <The_Vox> Zibar: did you try passing the installation kernel parameters for your sata?
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> ubotu forget mplayer-install
[10:08] <ubotu> i forgot mplayer-install, Computer__Guru
[10:08] <Computer__Guru> ubotu mplayer-install is Simple: enable universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update,  then sudo apt-get install mplayer-$CPU mplayer-fonts. $CPU can be 686 if you're on a pentium or k6 or k7 if you're on an Athlon.
[10:09] <Zibar> please clarify that step for me The_Vox ... what parameters should i use ?
[10:09] <Madpilot> Computer__Guru: you can msg ubotu to change entries, you know..
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> lol, said it again too fast
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> no i didnt
[10:09] <Computer__Guru> thanks
[10:09] <Hackmo> hey all
[10:10] <Hackmo> can someone help me with my firefox problem please
[10:10] <Madpilot> Computer__Guru: just leave the ! out of the commands when you in msg w/ ubotu
[10:10] <Computer__Guru> yeah i got it.. thanks man :)
[10:10] <Hackmo> it just crashed so closed it and now when I start it, it asks me to select a profile but when I choose my profile it tells me that it is already in use
[10:10] <arshad> what is this? (apt-get -f install) ?
[10:11] <Zibar> the only distro ive managed to install on these discs are debian sarge and starting installer with kernel 2.6.8 ... but that leaves me with way to much work configuring my hardware ... as my hardware is fairly new, this is a bit difficult ... i was hoping the ubuntu installer could assist me in this ....
[10:11] <The_Vox> Zibar: you need to find out what kernel module works for your sata (I have no clue which may be) and then tell the installer to load said module
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> Hackmo: open a shell and type: killall -9 firefox
[10:11] <Computer__Guru> then try again
[10:11] <Zibar> so something like linux26 on install prompt might work ?
[10:11] <Hackmo> Computer__Guru: It said "firefox: no process killed" after I ran that command
[10:12] <The_Vox> Hackmo: go into ~/.mozilla/firefox/<randomcharacters> directory and rm the lock file that you'll find in there
[10:12] <Zibar> odd thing is that the installer doesnt list that option when using help
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> try: sudo killall -9 firefox-bin
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> or do that
[10:12] <The_Vox> Zibar: I believe it should work something like that, yes
[10:12] <knowledge_> ok this suks....I installed a patch to my kernel...now my wireless card isn't working
[10:12] <knowledge_> anyone got a quick fix?
[10:12] <Computer__Guru> knowledge: when you recompiled your kernel, what config file did you load?
[10:13] <The_Vox> Zibar: I've only installed ubuntu once and didn't need to pass it any parameters...but I'm pretty sure I saw an option somewhere to pass it kernel parameters
[10:13] <Hackmo> Computer__Guru: thanks the seccond command worked
[10:13] <Zibar> ill give it a go ... im a bit carefull as i have 160 gb data i dont want to loose .... makes me a bit edgy ... thanks for the tip though, ill go try it
[10:13] <Hackmo> The_Vox: thanks for your help
[10:13] <knowledge_> I have no clue
[10:13] <The_Vox> knowledge_: boot with the original kernel that you didn't uninstall
[10:13] <Computer__Guru> knowledge_: msg me
[10:15] <crudpuppy> man you guys are great gettin guys starting in linux for real with the free cds
[10:15] <InitMass> what's the name of the system bell module?
[10:15] <The_Vox> InitMass: pcspkr
[10:15] <The_Vox> if you mean the kernel module
[10:15] <InitMass> The_Vox, yes i do. thank you
[10:16] <The_Vox> np...it took me an hour to find the damn thing when I installed the last time lol!
[10:17] <InitMass> The_Vox, i wonder how to turn off sound bell in rxvt
[10:18] <IceDC571> muine is like the only linux audio player with native gapless playback.. i wonder how they did it
[10:18] <InitMass> The_Vox, i had pcspkr turned off before but i want to be able to hear when somebody is writing to me in xchat
[10:19] <The_Vox> InitMass: no clue at all, I don't use rxvt
[10:19] <raven3x7> anybody else has ha problems with firefox crashing all the time? is there a way i can log it so i can see why it crashes?
[10:19] <The_Vox> InitMass: but I'm pretty sure that if you don't want any bells in shell, you can turn it off with some env var in bash....check bash's info page
[10:19] <InitMass> The_Vox, ok, maybe you know another way to get noticed by xchat than using the system bell
[10:20] <InitMass> raven3x7, i have the same problem
[10:20] <InitMass> The_Vox, i'll do that
[10:20] <bob2> raven3x7: do you have flash installed?
[10:20] <raven3x7> bob2 yes
[10:20] <bob2> there you go
[10:21] <lesshaste> what do I need to configure to make ip_tables.o?
[10:21] <The_Vox> InitMass: no clue how to do that to xchat, at least not without a script of some kind...check xchat's website and see if there's one there
[10:21] <bob2> lesshaste: what are you trying to do?
[10:21] <raven3x7> bob2 so flash is unstable?
[10:21] <bob2> in my experience, yes
[10:21] <zwnj> what's the compression type of .deb packages?
[10:21] <The_Vox> raven3x7: flash sucks planets through capillary strawss
[10:21] <bigfoot1> hello all: http://www.banja.com/login.asp shows  a flash page. I can click the buttons, but I can't enter text in it. Is this a problem just with my computer?
[10:21] <lesshaste> bob2, I want to get iptables working? I have just compiled a new kernel and it appears I no longer have ip_tables.o
[10:22] <lesshaste> bob2, new 2.4.31 kerenl
[10:22] <lesshaste> kernel
[10:22] <bob2> lesshaste: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[10:22] <La_PaRCa> god bless the command line
[10:22] <InitMass> bob2, it's not only when accessing flash pages it crashes anyway
[10:22] <lesshaste> bob2, that is a different question :)
[10:22] <bob2> lesshaste: yes, but a good one
[10:22] <bob2> InitMass: yeah, I know
[10:22] <lesshaste> bob2, Can we concentrate on the ip_tables.o problem first?
[10:23] <bob2> lesshaste: ok, the problem is that you misconfigured your kernel
[10:23] <bigfoot1> About http://www.banja.com/login.asp, I _can_ enter text, but it's invisible. What's up?
[10:23] <lesshaste> bob2, ok... now how?
[10:23] <bob2> lesshaste: the simple solution is to not make pointless work for yourself by compiling your own kernel
[10:23] <lesshaste> bob2, I turned on netfilter
[10:23] <bob2> lesshaste: not enough, obviously
[10:23] <lesshaste> bob2, there is "iptables" option
[10:23] <lesshaste> bob2, any idea?
[10:24] <Amaranth> why are you using a 2.4.x kernel when ubuntu ships with a perfectly fine 2.6.x kernel?
[10:24] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: are you using the "official" flash plugin or the Free one that comes with ubuntu?
[10:24] <bob2> lesshaste: yes, configure it properly.  go through and make every option in the netfilter section "N"
[10:24] <lesshaste> Amaranth, I have various kernels. I want to try this one
[10:24] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, how can i check?
[10:24] <mebaran151> anyone here code in ruby
[10:24] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: how did you install flash?
[10:24] <bob2> thinks will break with that kernel, btw
[10:24] <bob2> like hal
[10:24] <Amaranth> you realize there is userland work that needs to be done to go with the kernel, right?
[10:24] <bob2> and g-v-m
[10:24] <The_Vox> lesshaste: I think bob2 means M and not N
[10:24] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, i forgot.
[10:24] <bob2> er
[10:24] <lesshaste> The_Vox, thx
[10:24] <bob2> yes, typo
[10:24] <bob2> my mistake
[10:25] <lesshaste> Amaranth, well.. the thing is that it works fine with my other kernels. I just don't seem to have made the module
[10:25] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, how can i confirm which flash i have?
[10:25] <raven3x7> i just noticed i had a free clone of flash installed. maybe its not stable enough yet?
[10:25] <Madpilot> heh... just taught ubotu this:
[10:25] <Madpilot> !questions
[10:25] <ubotu> it has been said that questions is recommend reading: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[10:25] <InitMass> how do i relaod the inputrc?
[10:25] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: open firefox, type "about:plugins" (no quotes) in the addressbar and look for the flash plugin description...tell me what it says
[10:26] <zwnj> what's the compression type of .deb packages?
[10:26] <The_Vox> InitMass: source the file "source /path/to/file"...it works for any and every bash init script...but only for the terminal you do it in, unless you re-login
[10:26] <bigfoot1> The_Vox,     File name: libflashplayer.so    Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
[10:26] <The_Vox> zwnj: I believe they are tars
[10:27] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf ..
[10:27] <highvoltage> zwnj: i think i saw on the wiki that the new ones use bzip2
[10:27] <highvoltage> which is very good compression.
[10:27] <bob2> zwnj: tar inside gzip inside ar
[10:27] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[10:27] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: uhm...that's the official one....it shouldn't be all that unstable....then again, I rarely use it, I have an extension blocking display of flash until/unless I want to display it
[10:27] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, can you go to http://www.banja.com/login.asp and tell me if you can see the text you enter?
[10:28] <InitMass> The_Vox, source /etc/inputrc bash: mode=emacs: command not found
[10:29] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: can't see the text, no
[10:29] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, you mean you can't see the text that you enter with your keyboard, right?
[10:29] <The_Vox> InitMass: the "mode=emacs" line is wrong...emacs is the default mode, the only option for mode is vi
[10:29] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: right, nor in the user nor password fields
[10:30] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, so what's wrong?
[10:30] <ubuntu> I just loaded ubuntu live (running off the cd rom on my windows machine) and I was wandering why I can't watch a dvd or vcd ? I have two dvd roms and ubuntu reads them fine...but some how the program can't Decode a dvd???? why?
[10:30] <dam> !/dev/dsp
[10:30] <ubotu> dam: I give up, what is it?
[10:30] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: badly made flash animation would be my guess...they must be using something that is windows-specific
[10:30] <dam> !fuser
[10:30] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, the dvd stuff is not enabled by default
[10:30] <ubotu> dam: Wish i knew
[10:30] <ubuntu> how do you enable it?
[10:30] <dam> !fax
[10:30] <InitMass> The_Vox, i don't understand what that has to do with the system bell
[10:30] <ubotu> dam: Wish i knew
[10:31] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:31] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, i see. there's no way we can solve this on ubuntu computers, is there?
[10:31] <dam> !dsp
[10:31] <ubotu> dam: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:31] <dam> ubotu, yes
[10:31] <ubotu> No idea, dam
[10:31] <ubuntu> just go to that site and......?
[10:31] <dam> ok. how do i get a creative soundcard working?
[10:31] <dam> SIA
[10:31] <InitMass> The_Vox, i tried to login into another terminal but the bell still sound
[10:31] <ubuntu> it will have all the answers
[10:31] <The_Vox> InitMass: absolutely nothing....it's just a line that is wrong in the inputrc file you loaded...comment it out by putting a # at the begining of that line
[10:31] <dam> ISA
[10:31] <highvoltage> grand prix next weekend.
[10:31] <highvoltage> sorry, wrong channel.
[10:32] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: don't think there is, no
[10:32] <bigfoot1> The_Vox, okay. I guess we just have to avoid sites like that.
[10:32] <axis> hiyo
[10:32] <The_Vox> InitMass: uhm...what did you add for the bell thing?
[10:32] <The_Vox> bigfoot1: and send an email to the webmaster telling him why
[10:32] <axis> does anybody know where the GAIM Dictionary file is located?
[10:33] <dam> !isa
[10:33] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dam
[10:33] <The_Vox> dam: load the module? it depends on what model/chipset the sound card has
[10:33] <InitMass> The_Vox, ok now source is working i think but the bell still rings
[10:33] <dam> The_Vox, mmm. is there a GUI that does that?
[10:33] <The_Vox> axis: somewhere in ~/.gaim is my bet
[10:33] <InitMass> The_Vox, set bell-style noneset bell-style none
[10:33] <axis> does anybody know where the GAIM Dictionary file is located?   Or if it just uses a generic file, and where I may locate it?
[10:34] <InitMass> The_Vox, just added once
[10:34] <axis> The_Vox, : So it is proprietary to GAIM then?
[10:34] <The_Vox> InitMass: mmm...that should work
[10:34] <axis> The_Vox:  thx, will have a look
[10:34] <The_Vox> axis: it's my bet
[10:34] <The_Vox> dam: none
[10:35] <InitMass> The_Vox, after i have added that line i used the source command and tried if the bell still was ringing in that term and it was. i guess that should be the workflow
[10:35] <The_Vox> InitMass: did you log in anew in a real terminal or in an X terminal?
[10:35] <axis> hmm bah
[10:36] <The_Vox> axis: did I win my bet? :)
[10:36] <highvoltage> The_Vox: a real terminal? you mean a virtual terminal?
[10:36] <InitMass> The_Vox, s/workflow/course of action
[10:36] <The_Vox> highvoltage: well, yes :P
[10:36] <axis> unfortunately no hehe
[10:36] <InitMass> The_Vox, in a real one
[10:37] <Computer__Guru> okay, gotta reboot into my new kernel, wish me luck
[10:37] <The_Vox> InitMass: the problem is that I don't remember if redline does change params when you source inputrc....I know you can change bash stuff by sourcing profile and whatever other bash config files...but the bell thing is a redline thing, not directly a bash thing
[10:37] <Computer__Guru> although there shouldnt be so much as a single issue
[10:37] <axis> The_Vox, : myspell, firefox,  search providers, gnome,  man, open office, gconf,
[10:37] <The_Vox> InitMass: change the none to an off
[10:37] <axis> i'm guessing myspell or gnome
[10:38] <The_Vox> I'm betting on gnome this time
[10:38] <axis> ok hehehe
[10:38] <InitMass> The_Vox, the man page says none...
[10:38] <The_Vox> InitMass: it also says this: Except where noted, readline variables can take the values On  or  Off.
[10:38] <The_Vox> so...actually use Off and not off :)
[10:38] <axis> c,ja,uk   .. what's ja? haha
[10:38] <The_Vox> axis: japan?
[10:39] <tony> hi all!
[10:39] <axis> hehe
[10:39] <The_Vox> oh, not true
[10:39] <The_Vox> japan is jp
[10:39] <The_Vox> uhm...jamaica is ja, I believe
[10:39] <axis> /home/axis/.gaim # edit /usr/share/omf/gnome-utils/gnome-c.omf
[10:39] <axis> erp, /usr/share/omf/gnome-utils/gnome-c.omf
[10:39] <axis> heahn
[10:39] <InitMass> The_Vox, however it's complaining when i use off
[10:40] <The_Vox> InitMass: off or Off?
[10:40] <InitMass> The_Vox, off
[10:40] <tony> anyone use nzb/usenet binaries?
[10:40] <The_Vox> because I just noticed it says Off and not off....and linux tends to be extremely case sensitive :) So now try Off lol!
[10:42] <InitMass> The_Vox, readline: /etc/inputrc: line 61: $endif without matching $if. it's complaining about this now :( i guess i changed something unsuitable
[10:42] <The_Vox> InitMass: oops
[10:43] <The_Vox> InitMass: go to the very last line of the file and tell me...is it a blank line or a line with text?
[10:43] <InitMass> The_Vox, line with text. i # it. #$endif
[10:44] <InitMass> The_Vox, and now it stopped complaining
[10:44] <The_Vox> InitMass: go to the end of the line and hit enter
[10:44] <The_Vox> InitMass: save the file
[10:44] <The_Vox> InitMass: there has to be an EOL at the end of all bash and redline config files always
[10:44] <axis> i think it's in here /usr/share/myspell/dicts
[10:44] <InitMass> The_Vox, empty line you mean?
[10:45] <The_Vox> InitMass: yup
[10:45] <LightBeam> c u
[10:45] <axis> I wonder which file i'm using, No manual entry for myspell
[10:45] <InitMass> The_Vox, it is still complaining if i have that. do you have that endif in your file?
[10:45] <The_Vox> InitMass: EOL = end of line...there has to be one by itself as the last line
[10:45] <The_Vox> $endif
[10:45] <The_Vox> that's the very last line of text in my inputrc
[10:46] <The_Vox> InitMass: what are you using to edit the file?
[10:46] <InitMass> vim
[10:46] <axis> found it /usr/share/myspell/dicts/*.dic
[10:46] <axis> lol
[10:46] <blazint> how to get backports GPG sign key?
[10:46] <The_Vox> ok, as long as it's not a word processor lol!
[10:46] <InitMass> # "\e[F": end-of-line
[10:46] <InitMass> $endif
[10:46] <InitMass> and between those one emty
[10:47] <Tsar_vonHumbug> how do I get devfs to create the device names I need for my usb-serial, ie /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 ?
[10:47] <The_Vox> InitMass: uhm...paste your inputrc in pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:47] <The_Vox> InitMass: tell me when it's there
[10:48] <axis> omg .. funniest ever .. "motherfucker" is in the US_English dictionary
[10:48] <axis> lmfao
[10:48] <axis> internat,  "motherfucker" is located in US English /usr/share/myspell/dicts
[10:48] <axis> lmfao
[10:48] <The_Vox> axis: it has to be, or you get lots of misses when spellchecking the kernel :)
[10:48] <axis> oh man tha'ts good
[10:48] <axis> hahahahaha
[10:48] <internat> err.. wtf did i do now?
[10:49] <axis> lmao
[10:49] <mebaran151> pgsql, can anyone help?
[10:49] <mebaran151> please?
[10:49] <InitMass> The_Vox, now it's there
[10:49] <the_walrus> mebaran151, whats wrong?
[10:49] <axis> internat,   No, i just found the dictionary file because  i wanted to add in a few of my own words so they don't highlight. ... and i did a few searches and found swearwords lol
[10:49] <mebaran151> I need to setup authentication over a TCP/IP port
[10:49] <axis> that's just too good
[10:49] <mebaran151> for my main user
[10:49] <axis> oh man i needed that
[10:49] <internat> and that concerns me how?
[10:50] <the_walrus> Sorry, cant help you with that
[10:50] <axis> thanks for the help vox,    it's /usr/share/myspell/dicts
[10:50] <axis> hehe
[10:50] <axis> laters
[10:50] <The_Vox> InitMass: now I know what the problem is...the mode=emacs line :) uncomment it
[10:50] <Tsar_vonHumbug> axis, nothing worse than people who need their spelling of "motherfucker" corrected :)
[10:51] <olivier> gosh, my keyboard map is broken, i should have read the topic before upgrading
[10:51] <InitMass> The_Vox, yes :) i have removed the # in front of the emacs line
[10:52] <The_Vox> InitMass: it seems like the mode line only works if it's a login terminal....and redline complains if you source the file...there are a few other things like that, actually...I hate it when that happens
[10:52] <Tsar_vonHumbug> and as Dr Johnson says, if you found it, you were looking for it :D
[10:52] <Tsar_vonHumbug> enough sillines, who can fix my devfs problem?
[10:53] <LightBeam> Hello
[10:53] <LightBeam> somebody have BREEZY installed to help me ?
[10:53] <The_Vox> Tsar_vonHumbug: devfs?? ubuntu 5.04 doesn't use devfs
[10:53] <bob2> LightBeam: just ask your question
[10:54] <LightBeam> is it a convention ? (don't help breezy, don't debug it..etc...)
[10:54] <LightBeam> I had to install nvidia drivers on it, bob2
[10:54] <The_Vox> LightBeam: no, the pointing to the topic was so as to make sure you won't ask about X in breezy...it's broken, nobody can help you with that.
[10:54] <The_Vox> LightBeam: outside of that...ask, maybe somebody can help you
[10:54] <Tsar_vonHumbug> The_Vox, 'ps aux |grep dev' = udevd ...
[10:55] <The_Vox> Tsar_vonHumbug: ok, that makes more sense...and udev does create /dev/tty/ttyUSB0 automatically when you plugin USB stuff that need it...at least it does for my ipaq
[10:55] <The_Vox> Tsar_vonHumbug: what are you pluging in that isn't  creating it and needs it?
[10:55] <Tsar_vonHumbug> The_Vox, k, I'll try replugging mebbe
[10:56] <The_Vox> Tsar_vonHumbug: tail -f /var/log/messages and see what it says when you unplug it and when you plug it in
[10:56] <Tsar_vonHumbug> The_Vox, that's the right path? /dev/_tty_/ttyUSB0 ???
[10:57] <Tsar_vonHumbug> The_Vox, ah, there it is /dev/ttyUSB0 :D
[10:57] <The_Vox> Tsar_vonHumbug: I knew it was something like that lol!
[10:58] <nameless1> can someone help me out i installed a 200gb sata hdd to go along with my 120gb and 160gb and im tryin to copy stuff from my 120gb to my 160gb after formating and its taking like 6min to copy a 350mb file and why it copys its slowing doen everything
[10:58] <nameless1> does anyone know how to make it go back to normal
[10:59] <The_Vox> nameless1: disk trashing will always slow down the system
[10:59] <nameless1> this is  slower then copying from cd to hdd
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> yeh but 6m for a 350m is insane
[10:59] <nameless1> im only tryin to copy  1 file at a time
[10:59] <The_Vox> nameless1: oh, you need to turn dma on for the drive
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> i get 50mbs on my sata
[10:59] <nameless1> how do i turn on dma
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> yeh dma..
[11:00] <the_walrus> I have DMA enabled, and I'm only getting 27mbs on my ATA HD
[11:00] <The_Vox> sudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/<whateverdeviceitis>
[11:00] <nameless1> it turns on instantly?
[11:00] <The_Vox> the_walrus: 27mbs doesn't sound to bad
[11:00] <The_Vox> nameless1: should
[11:00] <the_walrus> really?
[11:00] <the_walrus> I'm sure I was getting about 45 last time I tested
[11:00] <the_walrus> maybe I'd been drinking :/
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> hdparm -d /dev/foo shows current valuei think
[11:01] <The_Vox> the_walrus: probably...I know I used to get 25 with my old deadstar
[11:01] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/hdb1
[11:01] <nameless1> sudo: hdparam: command not found
[11:01] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparam -d 1 /dev/hda2
[11:01] <nameless1> sudo: hdparam: command not found
[11:01] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt #
[11:01] <The_Vox> lsuactiafner: yes, it does
[11:01] <AndyRR> lsuactiafner, correct
[11:01] <the_walrus> hdparm*
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> but do not play with hdparm btw.. you could screw the disk up by not listening to my very good advice..
[11:01] <The_Vox> nameless1: hdparm, sorry...autocomplete makes me forget things lol!
[11:01] <The_Vox> lsuactiafner: dead HDs are fun )
[11:01] <nameless1> yeh both of those hdds have that thing turned off
[11:02] <The_Vox> nameless1: I've never seen an HD die by turning on DMA...but anything you do with hdparm can potentially kill an HD, so...forewarned you are :)
[11:02] <the_walrus> in THEORY, it shouldn't let you turn it on if it doesn't support it
[11:02] <the_walrus> in THEORY
[11:02] <The_Vox> nameless1: now that the warning is out of the way..."sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever" will turn on dma
[11:03] <The_Vox> the_walrus: theory is so much nicer than reality :)
[11:03] <the_walrus> heh, true
[11:03] <nameless1> its not turning on with those commands
[11:03] <the_walrus> realities a bitch
[11:03] <the_walrus> you need to have it enabled in your kernel, AND in the bios
[11:03] <nameless1> didnt see ya last msg vox ill try that
[11:03] <The_Vox> on the other hand, I haven't seen a modern (ie. less than 3 years old) HD not have dma
[11:03] <the_walrus> yeah
[11:03] <nameless1> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:03] <nameless1>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument
[11:03] <nameless1>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[11:03] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda2
[11:04] <the_walrus> check your kernel config
[11:04] <AndyRR> edit /etc/hdparm.conf to make changes permanent
[11:04] <The_Vox> old controller...poor you
[11:04] <nameless1> it worked before just fine
[11:04] <nameless1> but since i installed the 200gb and formated....
[11:05] <The_Vox> nameless1: uhm...my guess would be that your controller doesn't support DMA...but if you had it working before, then I have no clue what the problem can be.
[11:05] <the_walrus> kernel config
[11:05] <the_walrus> or Bios
[11:06] <the_walrus> or, wrong HD controller module
[11:06] <the_walrus> I had that problem with an Nforce2 chipset
[11:06] <nameless1> the 2 harddrives that are giving me the shits are pluged in the motherboard
[11:06] <the_walrus> the generic controller didn't support DMA
[11:06] <nameless1> the 200gb is in a "controler thingy"
[11:06] <nameless1> ubuntu is on the 200gb and the 200gb is running fine  i think
[11:06] <Pro_Newbie> How to install the windows fonts on (K)Ubuntu
[11:06] <Pro_Newbie> ?
[11:07] <The_Vox> Pro_Newbie: if in kde, go to the kde control center and install them from there.
[11:07] <nameless1> dma is working on the 200gb (the new hdd)
[11:07] <The_Vox> Pro_Newbie: if not on kde....you need to create a ~/.fonts directory and copy them there...the fonts you put there will *only* be usable by the user that has the fonts, it will not be system wide
[11:08] <the_walrus> where does this freaking distro put its kernel sources?
[11:08] <Pro_Newbie> The_Vox:  aha... but i remember there was some trick to download them via Kynaptic
[11:08] <The_Vox> the_walrus: do you remember the name of the generic controller module?
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <The_Vox> Pro_Newbie: ah, on that I have no clue
[11:08] <variant>  FUCK U
[11:08] <the_walrus> ommm, thats going back a bit
[11:09] <Pro_Newbie> The_Vox:  ahum
[11:09] <AndyRR> i havent come accross an ubuntu install yet that hasnt had dma enabled on /dev/hda but non have it on other devices
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[11:09] <nameless1> i installed onto a 200gb thats on sda1
[11:09] <The_Vox> AndyRR: he had an already working install and added a 3rd HD on a SATA controller (I think it's a controller not part of the mboard)
[11:09] <nameless1> sda1 = 200gb hdd with dma
[11:09] <AndyRR> variant having probs ? :)
[11:09] <the_walrus> how old is your mobo?
[11:10] <lsuactiafner>  have a feeling someone told him to rm -rf /dev/omgwtf
[11:10] <nameless1> hda1 = windows parition hda2 = 150gb partition with ext3 and hdb1 = 120gb hdd
[11:10] <The_Vox> oh...so you installed on the 200gb disk? I thought you had added that one
[11:10] <nameless1> the mobo worked fine before
[11:10] <ztonzy> heh
[11:10] <ztonzy> funny user
[11:10] <nameless1> this is a software problem i have had ubuntu running fine with this comp before its just since i added the new hdd
[11:10] <nameless1> but the new hdd works FINE
[11:10] <nameless1> would not havin the updates installed affect this?
[11:11] <nameless1> i added the 200gb and then formated
[11:11] <nameless1> the 200gb is better then my other hdds so i made sure i installed ubuntu on it
[11:11] <AndyRR> edit /etc/hdparm.conf to enable dma on drives that support it
[11:12] <The_Vox> nameless1: uhm...so you installed ubuntu from scratch on the new HD after installing it?
[11:12] <nameless1> yeah on sda1 (thru a controler thing)
[11:12] <The_Vox> AndyRR: he passed a -d 1 to one of the drives and got an error
[11:12] <The_Vox> AndyRR: but he says said HD was working with dma before adding the controller and new HD
[11:12] <nameless1> its tempting to just install suse
[11:13] <AndyRR> should be sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever
[11:13] <AndyRR> iirc
[11:13] <The_Vox> nameless1: you can try....it'll at least tell you if it's a HW conflict of some kind with the new controller
[11:13] <AndyRR> note no space
[11:13] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda2
[11:13] <nameless1> /dev/hda2:
[11:13] <nameless1>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:13] <nameless1>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument
[11:13] <nameless1>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[11:13] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt #
[11:13] <The_Vox> AndyRR: it works with or without space
[11:14] <the_walrus> that is a problem with either controller or HD
[11:14] <AndyRR> hda2 is a partition not a drive
[11:14] <the_walrus> it knows what its doing, but fails...
[11:14] <the_walrus> nameless1  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:14] <the_walrus> nameless1  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument
[11:14] <The_Vox> AndyRR: I use it with space :)
[11:14] <nameless1> i wish ubuntu would be hastle free, if i end up getting suse ill make sure i install ubuntu when the new release comes out
[11:14] <the_walrus> heh, true
[11:14] <the_walrus> nameless1, do it with just /dev/hda
[11:14] <The_Vox> oh! F! didn't see that lol!
[11:14] <toresbe>  /win 39
[11:14] <the_walrus> heh
[11:14] <nameless1> hda = windows partition
[11:14] <toresbe> oops, sorry
[11:14] <the_walrus> AndyRR picked it up
[11:14] <nameless1> hda1 = windows
[11:15] <The_Vox> nameless1: DMA is a per-disk thing, not a per-partition thing
[11:15] <the_walrus> you set it on the whole disk though
[11:15] <nameless1> hda1 = windows hda2 = linux hdb1 = linux sda1 = ubuntu install on 200gb new hdd
[11:15] <nameless1> OH
[11:16] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[11:16] <nameless1> /dev/hda:
[11:16] <nameless1>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[11:16] <nameless1>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[11:16] <nameless1>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[11:16] <nameless1> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[11:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> esd can only be run by one user at a time?!
[11:16] <The_Vox> BROKEN_LADDER: yes
[11:16] <The_Vox> nameless1: uhm...ok, that's not nice
[11:16] <nameless1> :(
[11:16] <nameless1> time of suse
[11:17] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : make your nick lower case..
[11:17] <The_Vox> BROKEN_LADDER: sound can only be used by one user at a time...only one user at a time can sit at the console, so <shrug>
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> that's insane
[11:18] <HappyFool> is breezy using esd or ... err dmix? whatever it's called
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> what if one user has music playing while another sits at the computer and plays a video game that has sound effects?
[11:18] <nameless1> iim gona go install suse, thanx for tryin to help. bye
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> users are supposed to kill and restart esd?
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> pathetic.
[11:19] <the_walrus> use the same login name
[11:19] <the_walrus> get them to play the music
[11:20] <Burgundavia> HappyFool, breezy is using dmix and esd
[11:20] <Amaranth> daniels: o_O
[11:22] <pax> anyone tried resizing etx3 partition with QTParted damage free?
[11:22] <lars> hi everybody. i've got a problem with nautilus while using webdva. when the connection to the server has been established nautilus crashes. why???
[11:25] <HappyFool> sleep well
[11:26] <cat> oh boy just got home from work
[11:27] <DukGalNamu> is tehre anything wrong with this?    ls | nano
[11:28] <tony> installing nzbget i am missing zlib on configure... whitch zlib would that be?
[11:28] <cat> DukGalNamu: ls ; nano
[11:28] <cat> grrr ls | nano is right
[11:29] <HappyFool> tony: probably zlib1g-de
[11:29] <HappyFool> tony: zlib1g-dev
[11:29] <DukGalNamu> why did nano crash and start using %100 of my precessor then....
[11:29] <kjon> Question. How can I run cdrecord with realtime priority without being root?
[11:29] <DukGalNamu> *processor
[11:29] <HappyFool> DukGalNamu: maybe do 'ls > filelist.txt' and then 'nano filelist.txt' instead
[11:30] <Pro_Newbie> where is my SATA hardisk?
[11:30] <Pro_Newbie> /dev/???
[11:30] <HappyFool> DukGalNamu: not to mention the fact that nano seems to not accept keyboard input in this mode
[11:30] <tony> than u Happy! u the man!
[11:30] <cat> Pro_Newbie: man sata
[11:30] <HappyFool> tony: heh. no problem ;)
[11:30] <Pro_Newbie> cat:  no i need it for Fdisk
[11:30] <cat> yeah it should be there
[11:30] <DukGalNamu> HappyFool: heh, yeah but it crashed for me
[11:30] <HappyFool> Pro_Newbie: probably /dev/sdXXX, where XXX is one of a,b,c, ....
[11:31] <eruin> anyone know which package provides shares-admin`
[11:31] <kjon> uuu... my damn burner writes too slow!!!! - my dma settings are fine, and I don't know how to set a higher priority for cdrecord... Any hints? pleeezeeee
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> Pro_Newbie: is it your primary
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> ?
[11:31] <pax> dmesg | grep SATA
[11:31] <Pro_Newbie> 10x HappyFool, DukGalNamu
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Pro_Newbie: yeah, do what pac said
[11:32] <HappyFool> kjon: don't know, sorry -- you can use 'sudo cdrecord' maybe, if you aren't
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> pax sorry
[11:32] <HappyFool> eruin: what's that? for configuring samba shares?
[11:32] <kjon> Have anybody heard about LSM???
[11:32] <hapo> is it possible to keep the contents of the existing /home partition when installing (k)ubuntu?
[11:33] <eruin> HappyFool, samba, nfs, yeah
[11:33] <kjon> Linux Security Modules... I heard that thing can set diferent priorities without being root...
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> hapo: if its mounted to a seperate partition then yes
[11:33] <kjon> but I need to recompile my whole kernel to get that thing working...
[11:33] <HappyFool> eruin: you should be able to use System -> Administration -> Shared folders for samba; otherwise try maybe 'swat' or 'webmin-samba'
[11:33] <hapo> DukGalNamu: yes, it is
[11:34] <hapo> DukGalNamu: so the installer asks about that like in fedora?
[11:34] <hapo> i'm installing this for the first time
[11:34] <HappyFool> eruin: not sure about nfs -- no obvious webmin module
[11:34] <eruin> HappyFool, I'm just collecting the package name so I can submit an enhancement bug for it ;)
[11:34] <DukGalNamu> hapo: no i don't think so
[11:34] <HappyFool> eruin: hrm. apt-cache search does not get any matches for 'shares-admin' (in hoary)
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> hapo: you would have to manually tell ubuntu to keep the current partitions and not format the /home partition
[11:35] <eruin> HappyFool, I know, not in breezy either
[11:35] <eruin> I guess it must be gnome-system-tools
[11:35] <the_walrus> whats the other gui config for the kernel?
[11:35] <the_walrus> xconfig and...
[11:35] <missmarple> hi
[11:35] <hapo> DukGalNamu: so it's the same in fedora. as an old linux user i'll select the manual config anyway :)
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> hapo: and be sure to choose the mountpoint for the partition
[11:35] <HappyFool> hapo: note that ubuntu 'user' uids (i.e., non-system) start at 1000 -- i think fedora might be 500, or something else
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> hapo: you should probably use debian
[11:35] <hapo> HappyFool: so i'll have to do some heavy chowning?
[11:35] <HappyFool> hapo: you might need to do a 'chown -R' after installing
[11:36] <hapo> ok
[11:36] <HappyFool> hapo: also, who knows what havoc the .gnome2 etc directories will play
[11:36] <DukGalNamu> hapo: ubuntu is for the unexperienced and the lazy....
[11:36] <HappyFool> the_walrus: you mean maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ? (not exactly gui)
[11:36] <HappyFool> DukGalNamu: hah!
[11:36] <the_walrus> HappyFool, I mean like, sudo make xconfig
[11:36] <the_walrus> but the one that uses gtk
[11:37] <HappyFool> the_walrus: oh, right
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> HappyFool: hah?
[11:37] <HappyFool> you calling me lazy :P
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> HappyFool: umm.... yeah why?
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> HappyFool: :P
[11:37] <the_walrus> unexperience too it seems
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> HappyFool: XD
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> ROFL!!!
[11:38] <HappyFool> the_walrus: make gconfig
[11:38] <the_walrus> i thought the right word was inexperienced though :p
[11:38] <hapo> DukGalNamu: well, i'm experienced but lazy :)
[11:38] <the_walrus> Thanks HappyFool
[11:38] <hapo> DukGalNamu: at least ubuntu is more for power users than fedora, or is it?
[11:38] <DukGalNamu> there you go!!!
[11:38] <the_walrus> * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that
[11:38] <the_walrus> * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed...
[11:38] <the_walrus> * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.
[11:38] <the_walrus> dammit!
[11:38] <HappyFool> the_walrus: yeah. have fun getting the -dev libs ;)
[11:38] <DukGalNamu> hapo: yes, but distros like debian is for REAL power users
[11:39] <HappyFool> hapo: it's debian-based, with (afaik) most debian packages available
[11:39] <DukGalNamu> hapo: in debian you can control EXACLTY what goes on your computer (minus the base install, which is mostly tools and utilities)
[11:39] <HappyFool> the_walrus: how about 'make menuconfig' ?
[11:39] <hapo> DukGalNamu: yes, i'm using debian on my other workstation
[11:39] <hapo> but i'm a lazy user :)
[11:39] <DukGalNamu> hapo: where as ubuntu gives you gnome and a bunch of other HD space hogs
[11:40] <HappyFool> well, there is a 'server' install for ubuntu
[11:40] <pax> DukGalNamu: cat /etc/debian_version
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> pax: yes i realize that it is debian base
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> d
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> pax: what i am remarking on is the installation
[11:42] <pax> what's different?
[11:42] <helloyo> i know ubuntu is best for me but its absolutely giving me the ****s! half of my mirrors (taken from ubuntuguide) fail! can anyone help?
[11:42] <hapo> i just got fed up of fedora... it's the windows of the linux world
[11:42] <hapo> does things that you don't want it to do
[11:42] <hapo> without your permission
[11:43] <pax> MS fedora, indeed.
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> pax: the fact that you HAVE to install gnome
[11:43] <hapo> does the stock kernel of ubuntu include bluetooth support, btw?
[11:43] <hapo> or do i have to compile a new one for that purpose?
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> pax: the fact that everything else that is installed uses gnome libraries
[11:43] <pax> DukGalNamu: I was under impression the installer give you server option, no?
[11:43] <Madpilot> DukGalNamu: there's kubuntu if you like KDE...
[11:44] <DukGalNamu> pax: i haven't didn't see it, is it a recent implemintation?
[11:44] <DukGalNamu> Madpilot: i like KDE, when i like a slow computer...
[11:44] <DukGalNamu> Madpilot: kde is no better than gnome....
[11:45] <VincentMX> yes it is
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> Madpilot: they are both resource hogs
[11:45] <VincentMX> i love kde
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> VincentMX: wel, aside form looking better and working better
[11:45] <pax> DukGalNamu: I can't confirm, I'm not sure, hope someone else jumps in on this.
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> VincentMX: same problem with resources
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> pax: in either case.. there is no point in an ubuntu server.... when debian is perfect for that.. cause i thought ubuntu was mostly for desktop home users
[11:46] <Pro_Newbie> How to boost the Mic for skype because the person to who i talk says itsnt enough loud
[11:46] <Pro_Newbie> ?
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> not poeple who want to set up a server
[11:46] <cat> Pro_Newbie: pop up aumixer or the gnome mixer,
[11:46] <cat> open it
[11:47] <DukGalNamu> alsamixer?
[11:47] <pax> DukGalNamu: what makes 50% of a distro is its community imho.
[11:47] <cat> alsamixer, aumix, alsamixer-gui gmix et cetc
[11:47] <DukGalNamu> pax: true and as of late the debian community has been a bunch of asses and trolls
[11:47] <Pro_Newbie> cat: yea, but i cant see mic....
[11:47] <DukGalNamu> pax: when i come here i almost always get alot of help
[11:48] <pax> there's a huge differnce between debian crowd and ubuntu folks.
[11:48] <cat> you will see it dude, keep on looking
[11:48] <Burgundavia> DukGalNamu, this is not #hackdowndebian, please don't turn it into that
[11:48] <Pro_Newbie> cat: 10x a lot
[11:48] <cat> np
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> Burgundavia: i am not hacking down debian, i like debian, its just he #debian channel is croweded and full of short tempered people
[11:49] <james_> Sorry, whats the IRC channel for wine on the Ubuntu server?
[11:49] <HappyFool> #winehq
[11:49] <james_>  winehq :That channel doesn't exist
[11:49] <HappyFool> and this isn't really the 'ubuntu' server, despite the x-chat label ;)
[11:49] <Burgundavia> james_, #wine
[11:49] <DukGalNamu> ohh man, could they help me getting diablo 2 running???
[11:49] <james_> * wine :That channel doesn't exist
[11:49] <Burgundavia> hmm
[11:49] <HappyFool> i could swear it was that yesterday
[11:49] <Amaranth> This is freenode, quite possibly the largest concentration of free software hackers on the planet.
[11:50] <anubis> flash plugin for FF?
[11:50] <Amaranth> s/planet/internet/
[11:50] <james_> Strange
[11:50] <HappyFool> james_: it is #winehq -- /join #winehq
[11:50] <james_> HappyFool: thanks, :p
[11:50] <the_walrus> Ubuntu is not a good development environment :/
[11:51] <HappyFool> the_walrus: you just need to install lots of -dev libs -- no different from most other distro's, afaik
[11:51] <DukGalNamu> the_walrus: its really not that bad actually
[11:51] <HappyFool> -dev packages, even
[11:51] <DukGalNamu> the_walrus: it actually has alot of libraries pre installed
[11:51] <the_walrus> Well, most of them aren't on the CD it tells me :(
[11:51] <HappyFool> the_walrus: ah. fair enough
[11:51] <anubis> flash plugin for FF?
[11:51] <nikkia> HappyFool: and there is usually a virtual package for all -dev packages for a specific environment, like gnome, kde, X
[11:51] <Amaranth> the_walrus: No, the CD is for a desktop install, you have to get the development stuff over the internet.
[11:52] <the_walrus> Amaranth, I understand that, I just like all my libs and stuff there
[11:52] <HappyFool> anubis: i think it's in multiverse -- no for amd64, though, as far as i know
[11:52] <tony> Happyfool: is "libxml2 header files were not found" asking for libxml2-dev?
[11:52] <HappyFool> tony: i don't know, but it's a good guess
[11:52] <tony> oki thx!
[11:52] <nikkia> it'd be nice if you could tell the package managers 'install this, and its development environment' in one go rather than having to hunt down the -dev package
[11:52] <Amaranth> tony: pretty good chance
[11:53] <Amaranth> nikkia: It's usually <package-name>-dev
[11:53] <nikkia> Amaranth: usually, but not always
[11:53] <HappyFool> nikkia: yeah, especially when package names and -dev packages don't exactly match
[11:53] <Amaranth> well, -dev packages always depend on their libs so just search for and install them instead :)
[11:53] <nikkia> Amaranth: thats not a great idea, IME
[11:54] <axis> bah
[11:54] <HappyFool> anubis: yeah, the package is flashplugin-nonfree, i think
[11:54] <Amaranth> nikkia: You're the one that said that was what you wanted though.
[11:54] <nikkia> it means your libs are installed as soft dependancies, thus if you upgrade the -dev, the old libs will get removed automatically
[11:54] <axis> still can't find the proper GAIM dictionary file
[11:54] <Amaranth> meh, that's not true
[11:54] <nikkia> Amaranth: no, its not, that's a workaround to achieve what i said, but it is not perfect
[11:54] <Amaranth> they'll only get removed if they aren't depended on
[11:54] <james_> Winehq channel seems a little quiet :(
[11:54] <Amaranth> and something conflicts with them or replaces them
[11:55] <axis> same with #GAIM
[11:55] <queuetue> Did backports.ubuntuforums.org go somewhere, or is it simply gone?
[11:55] <St0n3-C0l> how do I mount NTFS partition ?
[11:55] <Amaranth> queuetue: It's down atm
[11:55] <HappyFool> !windows
[11:55] <ubotu> I heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[11:55] <HappyFool> hrm
[11:55] <nikkia> Amaranth: i've seen apt try to remove all of X 'because its no longer used' too many times to believe that the dependancy checking is perfect :)
[11:55] <Amaranth> !alternative
[11:55] <ubotu> [alternative]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:55] <queuetue> Amaranth: Has it been down for weeks, or is it just intermittent and I check at bad times?
[11:55] <axis> desplesda, do you know much about GAIM ?
[11:55] <Amaranth> queuetue: You can't use it in sources.list anymore.
[11:56] <axis> HappyFool: i forget what you helped me with the otherday, but thanx.. i think it was 32bit i/o
[11:56] <Amaranth> queuetue: Go to the website and look up a mirror.
[11:56] <HappyFool> axis: cool
[11:56] <jamesDOOD> Hello all, I have a computer with an Invidia Graphics card and it seems the configuration files are not included on the cd. I have horribly slow dailup and have no idea how to use it during the installation of UBUNTU WARTHOG. How do I mount a memory stick which contains the Nvidia installation files using only the command prompt (Because the Xserver wont load) and install the files?
[11:56] <queuetue> Amaranth: Ah, ok.
[11:57] <axis> HappyFool: Yah mon .. I think it had something to do with enabling 32 bit IO on an SATA drive
[11:57] <anubis> I hate this change of xchat's text color
[11:57] <queuetue> Amaranth: Since the main site is down atm ... could you give me a mirror to use temporarily?
[11:57] <HappyFool> axis: probably module insertion at boot?
[11:57] <anubis> anyone here care to share their old xchat profile so I can return to the old scheme?
[11:57] <DukGalNamu> jamesDOOD: what error does teh xserver give you?
[11:57] <queuetue> Or a google cache of the mirrors page? :)
[11:58] <anubis> also a flash player for FF would be good
[11:58] <axis> HappyFool: hmm it could have been ..  ide-core and/or pII-core   / amd module ..
[11:58] <MeltedDuron> lo
[11:58] <jamesDOOD> It says "free86 or something is probably improperly configured and won't load, would you like to see the server output?"\
[11:58] <anubis> the info on ubuntu starter guide for the flash plugin is not right
[11:58] <axis> HappyFool, : I really thought it was SATA 32 bit i/o enabling .. haha
[11:58] <kjon> How do I compile gnomebaker 0.4? When I run ./configure, it says that "vorbisfile.pc" is missing.... what means that?
[11:59] <HappyFool> anubis: what kind of system are you on? x86, ppc or amd64? (cpu type)
[11:59] <jamesDOOD> And then it says Ubuntu Linux: Warty Warthog Login: Password:
[11:59] <kjon> (I've installed all the vorbis stuff --- but I don't know what should I do)
[11:59] <axis> *yawn
[11:59] <anubis> HappyFool, x86
[11:59] <jamesDOOD> and so on
[11:59] <jamesDOOD> only text
[11:59] <pax> I believe something like # mount -w -o noatime /dev/sda1 /memstick should get you going jamesDOOD
[11:59] <MeltedDuron> why don't i have any mp3/video codecs on my 5.04 install?
[11:59] <axis> need a coffee .. and i need  to figure out which dictionary GAIM uses and where it's located
[11:59] <axis> amn
[11:59] <axis> damn
[11:59] <HappyFool> anubis: have you added the 'multiverse' repository to your software package sources ?
[12:00] <raven3x7> MeltedDuron, they dont instal by default you need to add them
[12:00] <Burgundavia> axis, why do you need to know where gaim is located/
[12:00] <Burgundavia> ?
[12:00] <anubis> HappyFool, as per the guide
[12:00] <axis> Burgundavia, : Not where GAIM is located, but which dictionary it uses
[12:00] <Burgundavia> axis, for what?
[12:00] <MeltedDuron> raven3x7: how do i go about that?
[12:00] <anubis> HappyFool, however those were some weird backport links
[12:00] <axis> Burgundavia, : I want to edit it, and add is some of my own words i use frequently
[12:01] <anubis> HappyFool, not marilliat
[12:01] <raven3x7> MeltedDuron,  first you need to add repositories
[12:01] <queuetue> Amaranth: I managed to get the planetmirror mirror out of google cache.  Thanks.
[12:01] <james_> is their any reason why Skype would not load? Ive installed it of the .deb package, its added to the menu though does not load when I click on it :?
[12:01] <Burgundavia> axis, linked against myspell or aspell
[12:01] <axis> Burgundavia, : I've located   myspell/dict/US_ENG.dic   which is what i'm using
[12:01] <Burgundavia> axis, check the depencies
[12:01] <HappyFool> anubis: i don't use backports, but it shouldn't matter
[12:01] <raven3x7> !repositories
[12:01] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:01] <axis> Burgundavia, : And I've edited it ..   but it does seem to correspond with GAIM
[12:02] <axis> and I can't find any docu on google / gaims website
[12:02] <anubis> I have to fix this new xchat
[12:02] <anubis> its killing my eyes
[12:02] <HappyFool> anubis: anyway, have you tried installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' ?
[12:02] <anubis> I can't see my own text
[12:02] <jamesDOOD> And hwo do I go about installing that NVIDIA-linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run
[12:02] <pax> james_ ps aux | grep skype shows it running?
[12:02] <Amaranth> jamesDOOD: Don't bother.
[12:02] <jamesDOOD> ?
[12:03] <jamesDOOD> why?
[12:03] <anubis> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:03] <anubis> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[12:03] <Amaranth> jamesDOOD: Install the nvidia-glx package.
[12:03] <HappyFool> !sources
[12:03] <ubotu> somebody said sources was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:03] <HappyFool> hey, who removed the example sources?
[12:03] <jamesDOOD> but its's not there
[12:03] <jamesDOOD> i mean, it's not on the CD
[12:03] <jamesDOOD> that I was sent
[12:03] <Amaranth> Probably not.
[12:03] <axis> okay i'm man aspell this is the goods :)
[12:03] <jamesDOOD> How long will it take to downlaod on 33k dialup?
[12:03] <Burgundavia> HappyFool, the example sources where somewhere else
[12:04] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, its called nvidia-glx
[12:04] <Burgundavia> HappyFool, and that page died
[12:04] <jamesDOOD> and where do I find it?
[12:04] <jamesDOOD> Why doesn't it install automatically?
[12:04] <HappyFool> Burgundavia: it's here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38  (works for me)
[12:04] <Amaranth> jamesDOOD: enable the restricted repository in synaptic and install it there
[12:04] <delire> here at a festival in barcelona, *surrounded* by Ubuntu logo's. someones doing something right here in spain.
[12:04] <Amaranth> it's 3MB
[12:04] <jamesDOOD> oh
[12:04] <jamesDOOD> not bad
[12:04] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD,  i think its about 3MB
[12:04] <jamesDOOD> what is synaptic
[12:05] <Amaranth> festival is just a party?
[12:05] <pax> delire: did you take pics?
[12:05] <Amaranth> jamesDOOD: System->Administration->Synaptec Package Manager
[12:05] <delire> Amaranth: no http://elastico.net/copyfight.
[12:05] <HappyFool> anubis: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38   -- that's a reasonable list of ubuntu sources (without backports)
[12:05] <jamesDOOD> (sorry, I am quite unexperienced with this linux stuff :-D )
[12:05] <jamesDOOD> I have no screen
[12:05] <jamesDOOD> I mean
[12:05] <jamesDOOD> only text
[12:05] <Amaranth> oy
[12:05] <HappyFool> anubis: including 'multiverse'
[12:05] <delire> pax: all on laptops, kind of hard but it does seem to be the default windows alternative. quite a few macs but Ubuntu is 'the other operating system'.
[12:06] <raven3x7> type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:06] <kjon> I need help compiling gnomebaker 0.4. Who can help me?
[12:06] <jamesDOOD> It says Graphic INterface is improperly configured and will not load
[12:06] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD,  type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:06] <pax> good stuff
[12:06] <concept10> Is there any desktop app that depends on apache2 in a default install of Hoary?
[12:06] <jamesDOOD> tried that before,
[12:06] <jamesDOOD> It cannot find nvidia-glx
[12:06] <Amaranth> concept10: No.
[12:06] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, why do you only have text mode?
[12:07] <jamesDOOD> I have an nvidia geforce 6600 graphics card
[12:07] <raven3x7> Amaranth, that is nvidia-kernel-common or smthing
[12:07] <jamesDOOD> I heard that Ubuntu, or maybe just linux, has a problem with nvidia cards
[12:07] <HappyFool> the nvidia kernel modules are in linux-modules-restricted, which is installed by default
[12:07] <delire> pax: funny thing is how many people have retained the default gnome install even with the same default desktop image. can't say the same for most distributions - it seems people actually find the default configuration sensible.
[12:07] <jamesDOOD> when I start my computer into linux it does all these things like setting software clock OK OK OK oK and so on
[12:07] <MeltedDuron> thnx raven, reminds me of SuSE's yast2
[12:08] <jamesDOOD> but then at the end the screen goes black twice in succession
[12:08] <pax> delire: should've taken pics ;(
[12:08] <jamesDOOD> and I get the login prompt as two lines of text
[12:08] <raven3x7> MeltedDuron, only its better
[12:08] <MeltedDuron> lol yeh
[12:08] <jamesDOOD> Ubuntu Linux Warty Warthog
[12:08] <jamesDOOD> Login:
[12:08] <danil> Does anyone install Canon LBP 1120(USB) on Ubuntu?
[12:08] <Amaranth> o_O
[12:08] <Amaranth> warty?
[12:08] <delire> pax: yep, should have. maybe i'll borrow a camera.
[12:08] <jamesDOOD> And a window comes up saying that "Graphics inteface will not load, would you like to see server output?"
[12:09] <Amaranth> say yes
[12:09] <Amaranth> and look for lines that start with (EE)
[12:09] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, warty probably doesnt support your card because its too old. maybe you do need to install that nvidia binary after all
[12:10] <jamesDOOD> the linux is too old?
[12:10] <reka> jamesDOOD: your card:
[12:11] <pax> jamesDOOD: type: /sbin/runlevel
[12:11] <raven3x7> its about 8 months old i believe. you just need to update the nvidia drivers though
[12:11] <pax> james, is it N 2?
[12:11] <jamesDOOD> ?
[12:11] <MeltedDuron> who's idea was it not to install audio/video codecs anyay :-|
[12:11] <jamesDOOD> my apologies but., What?"
[12:12] <jamesDOOD> N 2?
[12:12] <raven3x7> does anyone know if warty has up to date nvidia drivers?
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> MeltedDuron, they're proprietary, we can't support em
[12:12] <MeltedDuron> lol k
[12:12] <eruin> whats a 3gp file?
[12:12] <raven3x7> MeltedDuron, its because of legal issues
[12:12] <pax> jamesDOOD: just checking what level you are running, you said you dont have x
[12:12] <MeltedDuron> damn the law i pirated photoshop when i was 9 years old
[12:12] <jamesDOOD> How do I find out?
[12:13] <raven3x7> pax he is running warty. if i remember warty has the 6xxx drivers which may not support his card
[12:13] <eruin> its not due to legal issues
[12:13] <Codestorm> smeg
[12:14] <raven3x7> eruin no?
[12:14] <eruin> nvidia drivers are included but unsupported as nobody but nvidia has access to the source for debugging
[12:14] <pax> raven3x7: Amaranth already suggested he apt-get into the driver but he's not responding to that .. so
[12:14] <Amaranth> (Codestorm is a friend of mine screwing around)
[12:14] <eruin> smeg is indeed a weird name for a menu editor
[12:14] <axis> sigh .. no help
[12:14] <HappyFool> heh
[12:15] <axis> can figure out the syntax for aspell .. man's not helpin me
[12:15] <pax> what's smeg anyway? (dont ban me now)
[12:15] <Amaranth> hehe
[12:15] <axis> can figure out the syntax for aspell .. man's not helpin me
[12:15] <Amaranth> !smeg
[12:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[12:15] <nikkia> pax, menu editor
[12:15] <axis> aspell -p --personal=/home/axis/dictionary.txt
[12:15] <axis> can't*
[12:15] <pax> nikki, thx
[12:15] <raven3x7> pax i think we need to get him to switch to the vesa drivers so he can use synaptic
[12:16] <jamesDOOD> yup, apt-get doesn't find the files
[12:16] <pax> raven3x7: he's all yours :)
[12:16] <Amaranth> I'm the author of smeg and I have xchat set to beep when someone says the name so I can see if they need help.
[12:16] <eruin> I remember a site called smeg.co.uk I stumbled upon back in the days (which is why the menu editor name is weird to me)
[12:16] <Amaranth> People who abuse knowing this get in trouble.
[12:16] <highvoltage> clear
[12:16] <highvoltage> ls
[12:16] <eruin> the site was filled with various types of smeg, aka poo
[12:16] <highvoltage> sorry
[12:16] <eruin> machine gun turd being one of em
[12:16] <MeltedDuron> anybody know if i can make me a pretty splash screen?
[12:16] <pax> Amaranth: oh I didnt know, let me check your wiki page again :p
[12:17] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, you ever used vi before?
[12:17] <Amaranth> no, don't give him vi
[12:17] <Amaranth> use nano
[12:17] <raven3x7> Amaranth, never used nano
[12:17] <Heimdall> hey room
[12:17] <MeltedDuron> w00t my 100mb of packages downloaded (2mb broadband :D)
[12:17] <eruin> blargh I wanat my X charset back
[12:17] <eruin> I cant even switch to a terminal :P
[12:17] <jamesDOOD> not really sorry
[12:18] <jamesDOOD> i've used gedit
[12:18] <Heimdall> is there a mean to know the global size of a directory with a 'ls' command ?
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> raven3x7, really?  They always have you use nano first.  I know experienced network administrators who'd never use anything but nano
[12:18] <jamesDOOD> xemacs
[12:18] <mindspin> ls -l
[12:18] <jamesDOOD> but not vi
[12:18] <Heimdall> mindspin, ls -l gives the size of the files in the dir
[12:18] <mindspin> yes
[12:18] <Heimdall> not the size of the directory
[12:19] <mindspin> ah, overread it you mean directory size
[12:19] <eruin> vi is fit for a coder, nano is fit for someone who just wants to get a simple edit done fast
[12:19] <ftwig> hi - anyone got belkin f5d7010 wlan card working?
[12:19] <Heimdall> ?
[12:19] <Heimdall> yes
[12:19] <Heimdall> the sum of the all the sizes
[12:19] <Heimdall> in one dir
[12:20] <raven3x7> tiglionabbit, i didnt know about it. i learned vi at school. i just looked at it and it seems a lot simpler
[12:20] <axis> anybody know how to import a MAN page manuall
[12:20] <jamesDOOD> vi uses buffers
[12:20] <axis> FUCK MAN , MAN MAN
[12:20] <jamesDOOD> :)
[12:20] <jamesDOOD> or something
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> raven3x7, AT SCHOOL?  HOW?
[12:21] <axis> grrrrrrrrr
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> I've never heard of a school that ever used vi for anything..  that's not fair
[12:21] <raven3x7> with school i meant a IT school
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> oh
[12:21] <jamesDOOD> so what should i use :)?
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> but still, I'm at UCSC now and people are afraid of vim
[12:21] <raven3x7> in a linux class
[12:21] <j-rock> Heimdall: try du -sh
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> I want a linux crass
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> *class
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> yeah, du -sh *
[12:22] <j-rock> we use VIM in one of our CS classes at uni
[12:22] <jamesDOOD> arg
[12:22] <j-rock> then you can continue using it in the high ones like networks and operating systems
[12:22] <axis> tiglionabbit, : what year
[12:22] <jamesDOOD> :)
[12:22] <Heimdall> thx j-rock  !!!
[12:22] <pax> axis: what do you mean import it? manpath
[12:22] <j-rock> Heimdall: np
[12:22] <concept10> Amaranth, did you ever do anything with the system-config-services app?  or just use BUM instead?
[12:22] <topyli> you have to know a little vi because it exists on every unix system
[12:22] <anubis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto This is just aweful
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> I've never seen someone who can use vim effectively either.  I just switched to it from emacs, and am still a little awkward, but I'm getting the hang of it.  Hard to remember when to use o or O or A or a or i, all of which mean insert some text
[12:23] <concept10> whats vim
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> or R or r or whatevr
[12:23] <Amaranth> concept10: Like 4 different people are attacking that problem from different angles, didn't feel like duplicating work.
[12:23] <j-rock> oh its easy
[12:23] <j-rock> ;)
[12:23] <Computer__Guru> I recompiled my kernel, and now vga=791 doesnt work... anybody else have this problem?
[12:23] <axis> pax, : i have a man .gz in my /home .. i want to add it, i can't view it. i've tried decomrpessing the gz and it just spits out the same file which won't add
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> concept10, vim has a history.  It's based on the oldest text editor in the world
[12:23] <topyli> concept10: vim is the vi that modern linuxen have
[12:23] <concept10> Amaranth, thats what I thought.  Thats cool.
[12:23] <pax> vimtutor is a great thing
[12:23] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: You lost me at 'recompiled my kernel'. Why? :)
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> linuxen?
[12:23] <highvoltage> tiglionabbit: no it's not.
[12:23] <concept10> tiglionabbit, negative
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> what, really?
[12:24] <jamesDOOD> so what do I do?
[12:24] <pax> axis, tried man:<file> in konqi?
[12:24] <topyli> tiglionabbit: yes. unix, linux, box and such should be pluralized by latin rules :)
[12:24] <concept10> The oldest text editor in the world is a rock and a hammer
[12:24] <Computer__Guru> Amaranth: because I wanted to compile a few pieces of hardware into the kernel
[12:24] <Amaranth> /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> I thought it was based on vi for visual, the visual version of ed.   And what's older than that?
[12:24] <j-rock> jamesDOOD: whats the q?
[12:24] <Amaranth> *cough*
[12:24] <axis> pax: sorry, don't know what konqi is
[12:24] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: Any reason they couldn't be modules?
[12:24] <Computer__Guru> Amaranth: regardless, vga=791 no longer works
[12:24] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, im trying to remember where xfree86.conf is on warty
[12:24] <pax> axis, if you are using KDE try with konqueror
[12:25] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: Lots of things will probably no longer work.
[12:25] <topyli> tiglionabbit: ed is the One :)
[12:25] <reka> raven3x7: same place... /etc/X11
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> concept10, I meant the oldest text editor for a computer
[12:25] <pax> in Konqueror you can view man pages with man:vim or info:vim (exemple)
[12:25] <Computer__Guru> I used the ubuntu config file. if recompiling a kernel breaks the system, then its not much of a system _at_all_
[12:25] <concept10> tiglionabbit, :) :)
[12:25] <raven3x7> reka thanks. its been a while since i used it
[12:25] <axis> sigh .. I just want to know which dictionary file GAIM uses, and how to add my own words
[12:26] <bentele> \list
[12:26] <axis> i've tried learning aspell, myspell, etc etc
[12:26] <concept10> tiglionabbit, a little humor, thats all.
[12:26] <axis> looking in my /home for a dictionary file
[12:26] <topyli> tiglionabbit: who knows what the ENIAC had :)
[12:26] <axis> making my own trying to import it with myspell/aspel
[12:26] <AlexBO> How can I set my password for this channel?
[12:26] <axis> i just want to add some frigging words to my dictionary library for GAIM
[12:26] <anubis> I have to search through pages of google everytime for repos for ubuntu
[12:26] <Computer__Guru> axis: dpkg-query -L wamerican or wbritish or whatever your wordlist package is
[12:26] <axis> so much easier with freebsd
[12:26] <concept10> I wish my dad was still alive, he had so much unix knowledge and I just started a year ago
[12:27] <Computer__Guru> wow
[12:27] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, first type  $ sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4_backup
[12:27] <Amaranth> AlexBO: /msg NickServ HELP
[12:27] <topyli> AlexBO: do you mean nicserv?
[12:27] <Computer__Guru> Ubuntu Linux = Where we discourage recompiling your kernel.
[12:27] <candid> where do i get information which sources to use write into /etc/sources.list?
[12:27] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: The system answer is I don't know.
[12:27] <AlexBO> topyli:yes
[12:27] <Computer__Guru> I dont either, heh
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[12:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:27] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, this will backup your configuration
[12:27] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: And that 99% of the time recompiling your kernel isn't needed.
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> grr
[12:28] <topyli> AlexBO: oh, see Amaranth's answer ^
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> why does that never stay the way I set it?
[12:28] <Computer__Guru> all i know is the most commonly used video mode for svgalib no longer works and I want to know why
[12:28] <reka> candid: a working smaple one can be foud here: paste.ubuntulniux.nl/38
[12:28] <jamesDOOD> ok
[12:28] <adwait> hehe tiglionabbit
[12:28] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: Most people don't know, kernel/userland interaction is black magic. This is why we tell people not to do it.
[12:28] <jamesDOOD> raven3x7: ok
[12:28] <j-rock> black magic == fun
[12:28] <pax> Computer__Guru: wrong!  Ubuntu = Unlike Before, linUx id Now Totally Usable
[12:28] <Computer__Guru> I'm gonna try linking a new system.map
[12:28] <pax> is8
[12:28] <concept10> black magic?
[12:28] <hondje> cidr is black magic
[12:29] <Computer__Guru> pax: that was just gay
[12:29] <Computer__Guru> brb
[12:29] <rootweiler> hi
[12:29] <anubis> backports.ubuntuforums.org this site is down
[12:29] <anubis> where are mirrors?
[12:29] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, now you need to change the driver
[12:29] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: language
[12:29] <jamesDOOD> hmmk
[12:29] <Computer__Guru> apology
[12:29] <axis> Computer__Guru, Package `wamerican' is not installed.
[12:29] <Computer__Guru> try wbritish
[12:30] <jamesDOOD> lets say I have that package downloaded alraedy
[12:30] <hoof> i have a question...im trying to compile kernel 2.6.12 but make-kpkg doesnt work
[12:30] <jamesDOOD> and it is on my memory stick
[12:30] <AlexBO> well....probably I've already done it, but I lost the password. How can i resume it?
[12:30] <jamesDOOD> and I typed #mount -w -o noatime /dev/sda1/memstick
[12:30] <hoof> when i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found
[12:30] <axis> Computer__Guru, : nope not that either, not wcanadian either
[12:30] <axis> lol
[12:30] <Amaranth> AlexBO: If you've lost the password you're out of luck.
[12:30] <jamesDOOD> what do I do now in order to isntall the dot RUN package
[12:30] <rootweiler> does anyone know if ubuntu can uses a nokia 6680 (gprs) to connect to the net?
[12:30] <axis> i'm using american english
[12:30] <adwait> hoof: maybe its not installed? try to apt-get it
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> darn it this corey burger guy is pissing me off
[12:31] <AlexBO> Amaranth: good... so, Have I to create a new Nick?
[12:31] <Burgundavia> tiglionabbit, greatings tiglionabbit, what do we need to talk about?
[12:31] <Burgundavia> hondje, I am Corey burger
[12:31] <adwait> jamesDOOD: first chmod +x <whatever> then ./<whatever.run>
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> I know that, Burgundavia
[12:31] <hondje> no, you're Burgundavia :)
[12:31] <Computer__Guru> rebooting with a new system map, wish me luck
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> you're just removing every link to the information I use and refer people to
[12:31] <concept10> Does anyone play ET?
[12:31] <Amaranth> AlexBO: Well, only if you want to register a channel or be an op somewhere.
[12:32] <sebastian> How do I upgrade to Kubuntu?
[12:32] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, type sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 find the line where it says Driver          "nvidia". delete it and replace it with "vesa". then ctrl+x to exit. when it asks to save the buffer say yes
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> I'm going to make a sources wiki, stop changing it..
[12:32] <pax> sebastian: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <AlexBO> Amaranth: i like this channel very much. I wanna register me
[12:32] <adwait> sebastian: from what/
[12:32] <pax> sebastian: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <hondje> why vesa and not nv?
[12:32] <Amaranth> AlexBO: Ok, then change to another nick and /msg NickServ HELP
[12:32] <axis> bargh
[12:32] <concept10> tiglionabbit, thats funny
[12:33] <mindspin> hondje because vesa works almost ever and he can use synaptic
[12:33] <AlexBO> Amaranth: okey
[12:33] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, it says "nv" not "nvidia" sorry. only delete that word
[12:33] <mindspin> to get nv
[12:33] <candid> apt-get says package xyz not found with every package i want to install. what am i doing wrong?
[12:33] <sebastian> "sebastian is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[12:33] <mindspin> try su
[12:33] <hondje> mindspin: really? I never had vesa working, so I've always used nv if not nvidia. Go figure
[12:33] <Amaranth> sebastian: You have to use the first account you created on the system.
[12:34] <jamesDOOD> Thans a lot
[12:34] <hondje> linux has hated me for a long time
[12:34] <jamesDOOD> I'll load into linux and try it out
[12:34] <jamesDOOD> cheers
[12:34] <raven3x7> hondje are you talking to me?
[12:34] <sebastian> Amaranth, I though I was?
[12:34] <mindspin> if you have troble with xserver vesa almost ever works
[12:34] <Amaranth> sebastian: You can't be...
[12:34] <hoof> adwait: i tried but it cannot be found
[12:34] <hondje> raven3x7: I was, but mindspin answered :)
[12:34] <concept10> The good thing about ubuntu is that people are nice in the forums and in this channel, but there are some conflicting opinions about the way to do things
[12:34] <mindspin> works means you see something ;-)
[12:34] <sebastian> Amaranth, Can't I change this account to be as if it were the first then?
[12:34] <hoof> when i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found
[12:34] <hondje> I wonder why vesa never worked for me
[12:34] <hoof> when i enter the command make-kpkg it returned command not found...help...
[12:35] <hondje> probably for making fun of Dawes all those times
[12:35] <Amaranth> sebastian: Not without rebooting in recovery mode and editting some file with non-simple syntax.
[12:35] <sebastian> Amaranth, Ouch? Is this going to be fixed or should i report a bug about it?
[12:35] <hondje> anyone notice that xfree86 4.5 came out? :D
[12:35] <mindspin> hondje always bleeding edge hardware?
[12:35] <Amaranth> sebastian: Nothing to be fixed.
[12:36] <Amaranth> hoof: install the kernel-package package
[12:36] <topyli> sebastian: you can add yourself to the "admin" group, which is mentioned in the sudoers file
[12:36] <Amaranth> hondje: it came out a long time ago
[12:36] <hondje> Amaranth: if a tree falls in the wood.... :)
[12:36] <hoof> amaranth: how?
[12:36] <hoof> amaranth: how?  Through apt-get?
[12:36] <hondje> mindspin: no, I use regular ol' intel mobos
[12:36] <sebastian> topyli, In the Users and Groups program?
[12:36] <Amaranth> hoof: yeah
[12:36] <ben_underscore> hoof, use synaptic
[12:36] <hondje> though I haven't tried it in years
[12:36] <topyli> sebastian: yes
[12:37] <topyli> sebastian: then logout, login, and you have TEH POWER :)
[12:37] <hoof> ben_underscore:  forgive me, im new to ubuntu...what's synaptic?
[12:37] <Amaranth> topyli: He'll need sudo access for that too.
[12:37] <topyli> Amaranth: aww. you're right
[12:37] <pax> hoof, synaptic is add/remove programs type of thingy
[12:38] <ben_underscore> hoof, it is the package manager. are you in ubuntu? click on the "system" menu, then "administration" then "synaptic"
[12:38] <Amaranth> if adding yourself to the admin group is all that is needed, reboot in recovery mode and run 'adduser sebastian admin' and restart (ctrl-alt-del)
[12:38] <topyli> sebastian: so the uber-user has to do it for you. sorry if i'm confused and hung over
[12:38] <scorpix> if i install windows xp in another partition, do i have to reinstall grub or do any configurations for the boot loader?
[12:38] <mindspin> topyly but he can boot with alivecd, mount the hd and edit it as root
[12:38] <hoof> pax: where can i find it...
[12:38] <pax> hoof: in console type: synaptic
[12:38] <pax> sudo synaptic*
[12:39] <hoof> pax: ok found it
[12:39] <topyli> sebastian: you could do it in single user mode like Amaranth says
[12:39] <Burgundavia> scorpix, yes and there is a wiki page for it
[12:39] <Amaranth> If I have to look at a terminal the system has failed. :)
[12:39] <topyli> heh
[12:39] <sebastian> How do I find out what user is the main user?
[12:39] <hoof> ah ok
[12:39] <Burgundavia> scorpix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:39] <hoof> got it...ill try it
[12:39] <scorpix> Burgundavia, link plz
[12:39] <Burgundavia> sebastian, system-->admin-->users&groups
[12:39] <Burgundavia> first user listed
[12:40] <Amaranth> sebastian: It's whatever user you created when you installed ubuntu.
[12:40] <sebastian> Oh crap I can't open that...
[12:40] <topyli> sebastian: grep admin /etc/group
[12:40] <sebastian> Amaranth, No it isn't.
[12:40] <Amaranth> sebastian: It is. :)
[12:40] <Amaranth> Unless someone broke your Ubuntu.
[12:40] <sebastian> "lpadmin:x:107:sebastian"
[12:41] <hoof> pax: now i know what synaptic does...hahahaha...a while ago, i was exploring ubuntu and I thought synaptic was for extracting gz or tars
[12:41] <topyli> sebastian: there you go
[12:41] <Madpilot> need some sleep. see you all later...
[12:41] <sebastian> But then the question is, why can't I use sudo?
[12:41] <hondje> hoof: that's file-roller :D
[12:41] <mindspin> sebastian did you enable root log in?
[12:41] <topyli> sebastian: that's a relevant question :)
[12:42] <sebastian> mindspin, What is that?
[12:42] <mindspin> ok you didn't
[12:42] <candid> FATAL: Module loop_fish2 not found. << where do i get it?
[12:42] <mindspin> its possible to enable root logi
[12:42] <topyli> sebastian: i suggest you boot into single user mode and fix the sudoers file
[12:42] <mindspin> but its not recommended although some people do
[12:42] <topyli> sebastian: (or at least check if it's ok or not)
[12:43] <sebastian> topyli, What is the problem with it then, so I know what to fix?
[12:43] <hoof> another question...why can't i compile XMMS from source?
[12:43] <hoof> it looks for GLIB
[12:43] <ulaas> i want breeeeeezy
[12:43] <topyli> sebastian: for some reason the admin group doesn't have the rights. or, user 'sebastian' is not properly set up in the group
[12:43] <hoof> where can i find GLIB?
[12:43] <mindspin> sebastian the brute way is, boot with knoppix, mount your hd and edit the file
[12:44] <topyli> sebastian: or perhaps it's just the moon phase
[12:44] <eruin> what's dasher?
[12:44] <ulaas> eruin, run and see ?
[12:44] <jaco^> a patch for google video?
[12:44] <ben_underscore> hoof, you need to install a package that contains all of the developer libraries and gcc etc
[12:45] <Raptoid> slmlr.
[12:45] <ben_underscore> hoof, i cannot remember it's name though
[12:45] <ulaas> eruin, predictive text input system.
[12:45] <topyli> hoof: install libglib2.0-dev. why do you want to compile?
[12:45] <sebastian> I try to add "admin   ALL=(ALL) ALL" will that fix the problem?
[12:45] <ulaas> Raptoid, what is a slmlr?
[12:45] <topyli> sebastian: %admin, not admin
[12:46] <topyli> sebastian: and use visudo, don't edit the file directly
[12:46] <yahalom> how do i connect to someone with ssh? what do they need to be running?
[12:46] <sebastian> topyli, When I use visudo it opens in an editor.
[12:46] <yahalom> i added my ip in their necessary files, but thats i
[12:46] <topyli> sebastian: yes
[12:47] <topyli> sebastian: but visudo also check that the file is sane
[12:47] <linukso> yahalom: start sshd ( /etc/init.d/sshd start )
[12:47] <sebastian> When I asks of filename to write, should I write /etc/sudoers ?
[12:48] <topyli> sebastian: yes
[12:48] <topyli> well, it probably suggests that anyway
[12:49] <sebastian> Nah it addede a .tmp
[12:49] <hoof> i have a problem...Im using Ubuntu 4.10.  And each time i try to compile kernel 2.6.10, it exits gnome and then returns me to the login screen...what's the problem?
[12:50] <hoof> well, at first it goes out to a text mode thingy and then returns to the login screen
[12:50] <sebastian> Hmm is lpadmin something different from admin? I have no admin line in /etc/groups
[12:51] <topyli> hoof: X crashes. i've never heard of the compiler crashing X before :)
[12:51] <tiago> hi can some one please help me out?
[12:51] <topyli> sebastian: ah. you need to add the group. i wonder why you don't have it. are you running warty or hoary?
[12:51] <hoof> topyli: how do I solve this problem?
[12:52] <sebastian> topyli, The latest of them, think it's hoary.
[12:52] <sebastian> I have an adm group/
[12:52] <topyli> hoof: i have absolutely no idea. again, why do you want to compile? ubuntu already has a kernel you know :)
[12:52] <tiago> im running kubuntu and i want to know how to install gnome on it =P
[12:52] <tiago> i wana try out gnome...
[12:53] <Burgundavia> tiago, install ubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <hoof> topyli: in fedora, I used 2.6.12 and it gave me a significant performance boost.
[12:53] <Burgundavia> tiago, you will get the same thing as if you installed ubuntu and not kubuntu
[12:53] <Burgundavia> hoof, .12 is coming in breezy
[12:53] <tiago> will i ahve both?
[12:53] <Burgundavia> tiago, yes
[12:53] <topyli> sebastian: hmm. adm might actually be the right one. add yourself to that and make sure it's in the sudoers file
[12:53] <hoof> topyli:  ubuntu has kernel 2.6.8
[12:53] <tiago> swo i type install ubuntu-desktop in command?
[12:54] <hoof> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubutu anyway?
[12:54] <Burgundavia> tiago, or search for it in synaptic
[12:54] <tiago> ok thanx
[12:54] <hoof> burgundavia: what do you mean .12 is coming in breezy?
[12:54] <topyli> hoof: really? i haven't heard about that either
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE.  You can install all packages and desktops from either on either though
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> look for ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop in APT
[12:54] <Burgundavia> hoof, 2.6.12 will be the default kerenl for Breezy Badger, the next version of Ubuntu, due in October
[12:55] <sebastian> topyli, Is the sudoers file change immidiate?
[12:55] <highvoltage> ahw, and here I was hoping for gnome 2.12
[12:55] <yahalom> how do i connect with xdcmp to another linux box?
[12:55] <Burgundavia> highvoltage, that is coming as well
[12:55] <tiago> its gona be a 106mb download lol
[12:55] <highvoltage> cool.
[12:55] <topyli> sebastian: i guess. but group membership only takes place at a new login
[12:55] <hoof> burgundavia: so it means, when the new version comes i need to reinstall again?  That would be a pain in the ass.
[12:55] <tiago> whats gnome like? i havent used it before
[12:56] <sebastian> topyli, I was already in the adm group.
[12:56] <Burgundavia> hoof, there will be a clear upgrade path and a supported one
[12:56] <topyli> sebastian: perhaps adm group is not in sudoers
[12:56] <Burgundavia> hoof, without reinstalling. This is not fedora
[12:56] <hoof> i believe that ubuntu is already a good distribution.  I dont have to reinstall a new version from scratch all i needed to do is upgrade the kernel...
[12:57] <sebastian> oh "visudo: sudoers file unchanged
[12:57] <sebastian> ".
[12:57] <concept10> hoof, what kernel are you currently using?
[12:57] <hoof> I was a fedora user...and I didnt have to jump from fedora core 1 to 4...i used fedora core 1 and then just upgraded the kernel...it was great
[12:57] <sebastian> It doesn't say why though. What can I do? Use another command to change the file?
[12:57] <reka> tiago: it's my favourite DE.  what are you currently using?
[12:58] <hoof> concept10: the one which came with 4.10, it guess its 2.6.8
[12:58] <concept10> hoof, have you tried to upgrade to 2.6.11?
[12:58] <sebastian> Hmm, weird it works now. Thanks!
[12:59] <hoof> concept10: nope...why?
[12:59] <concept10> 2.6.11 is available in the repos
[12:59] <hoof> concept10: actually...i figured it out...kernel 2.6.12 is compiling but it stops because of unknown reasons X is exiting...
[12:59] <sebastian> "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'" Eh? Can't I upgrade from internet?
[01:00] <hoof> do you guys know how I can go to run level 3?  in fedora it's telinit 3...how do i do it in ubuntu?
[01:00] <HappyFool> sebastian: you can remove the cd entry in /etc/apt/sources.list -- or using synaptic
[01:00] <HappyFool> hoof: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[01:00] <HappyFool> hoof: runlevels are different in ubuntu/debian
[01:00] <mindspin> init 3
[01:00] <mindspin> ?
[01:01] <mindspin> that works on debian
[01:01] <hoof> happyfool: how different?
[01:01] <hoof> happyfool: if i issue that command, will it stop X and take me to a text only mode?
[01:01] <sebastian> Hmm how do I edit my partitions?
[01:02] <topyli> sebastian: please join #flood and paste your sudoers file there
[01:02] <hoof> mindspin: it accepts the command but doesnt do anything...im still in X
[01:02] <sebastian> topyli, I commented out the first entry and it seams like it works.
[01:02] <mindspin> strg Alt Bacckspace kills x ;-)
[01:02] <topyli> sebastian: sudo or the upgrade? :)
[01:03] <HappyFool> hoof: it should
[01:03] <HappyFool> hoof: in ubuntu, default runlevel is 2; afaik 345 are not specially defined
[01:03] <sebastian> topyli, Both of it works now. :) Now I only need to know how I add a new partition where I can put my ut2004 installation.
[01:03] <HappyFool> hoof: 1 is still single user, and i think 0 and 6 are startup/shutdown
[01:03] <hoof> happyfool: ahhhh...ok so, what's the runlevel which will stop X?
[01:03] <HappyFool> hoof: there isn't one, really
[01:04] <HappyFool> hoof: hence the gdm stop
[01:04] <mindspin> sebastian take cfdisk
[01:04] <topyli> hoof: none. stop gdm
[01:04] <HappyFool> hoof: you could switch to runlevel 1, but that's a bit extreme, and not necessary
[01:04] <parka> hi. may i kindly ask for your help
[01:05] <topyli> well, since you're asking kindly, why not just ask? ;)
[01:05] <mindspin> read the topic: Have a question? Just ask!
[01:05] <parka> nautilus goes nuts when i try to access my home ... dontknowthewordinenglish
[01:06] <mindspin> directory?
[01:06] <topyli> parka: nuts how?
[01:06] <Burgundavia> parka, there are other channels for other languages. You might want to try #ubuntu-de
[01:06] <freewoody> hi all
[01:06] <hoof> ok, another question...how do i install the skins for xmms?
[01:06] <parka> burgund, i tried that already
[01:07] <freewoody> How do I mount my FAT32 C drive automatically at startup so that all users can access it ?
[01:07] <parka> hoof, take them in .xmms/skins
[01:07] <mindspin> parka try to explain "goes nuts" in more detail
[01:07] <sebastian> Isn't there any graphical interface to edit my ppartitions? I feel unsafe doing such things in text based guis. :/
[01:08] <parka> okay. please dont laugh. the foot in the top right moves, but the window keeps white
[01:08] <mindspin> cfdisk is kinda graphical
[01:08] <parka> i can access my usb disk though
[01:08] <mindspin> qtparted  maybe?
[01:08] <Computer__Guru> Amaranth: I found the problem
[01:09] <parka> cfdisk = fatal errror, cant open
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> freewoody, I'll help you with that
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> wait..  there's a script, isn't there
[01:09] <Computer__Guru> Amaranth: the version of gcc that I'm using breaks the agp_bridge_register function
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> !mount
[01:09] <ubotu> methinks mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:09] <freewoody> thanks
[01:09] <topyli> parka: can you ls the directory in a terminal?
[01:09] <Amaranth> Computer__Guru: i810_drv.o w/gcc4?
[01:10] <Amaranth> wait, that's xorg
[01:10] <parka> top: yes
[01:10] <topyli> parka: seems like nautilus is trying to list the dir but fails
[01:10] <Computer__Guru> Amaranth: nope, it's the agpgart driver with gcc 3.3.5
[01:10] <mindspin> parka, switch to kde ;-)
[01:10] <parka> top, yes i think so
[01:10] <topyli> parka: do you have something weird mounted in a subdir of your home?
[01:11] <Computer__Guru> what version of gcc was the ubuntu kernel compiled with? I'm just gonna compile with that
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> yeah, that'll save you having to listen to me.  Anyway, to do it yourself, all ya gotta do is "sudo fdisk -l", find the device you want (/dev/hdsomething), then "sudo mount /dev/hdsomething /mnt", then edit fstab and add a line for "/dev/hdsomething /mnt vfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0"
[01:11] <sebastian> Hmm, when viewinng software updates it gets real slow when viewing details, and everything is greyed out. That isn't that good is it?
[01:11] <parka> i have a link to my usb but dont think thats the prob
[01:11] <topyli> Computer__Guru: try 'cat /proc/version'
[01:11] <Computer__Guru> someone please echo /proc/version who's on a vanilla ubuntu kernel
[01:11] <Computer__Guru> cat /proc/version:
[01:11] <Computer__Guru> Linux version 2.6.10-psilocybin-i686 (root@psilocybin) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #3 Sun Jul 17 07:03:25 EDT 2005
[01:11] <sebastian> Maybe they should make it use threads?
[01:11] <Computer__Guru> doesnt help me
[01:12] <parka> top: but i think there are weird icons. i played with configuring those. regrettably
[01:12] <topyli> Computer__Guru: gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)
[01:12] <Computer__Guru> topyli: now if I could get *you* to do that for me, it would help a ton
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> well anyway guys, it's time for me to sleep
[01:12] <Computer__Guru> tru tru
[01:12] <topyli> ^
[01:12] <Computer__Guru> that from /proc/version? cause it's the default installed compiler, doesnt necessarily mean thats what was used for your kernel
[01:13] <parka> installing kde might be a workaround
[01:13] <topyli> yes
[01:13] <Computer__Guru> ok
[01:13] <Computer__Guru> so why in the hell is this not working
[01:13] <topyli> parka: what desperate measures! :)
[01:13] <mindspin> I love kde
[01:13] <parka> top: yeah :-)
[01:13] <raven3x7b> can some one kick raven3x7? its me but my connection failed and i cant loggin now
[01:14] <sebastian> Ew, the ui's of the Software Updates tool isn't the best. :/
[01:14] <klaas_> Computer__Guru: check out buildinfo.gz in the /usr/share/doc/you-kjernel-image
[01:14] <topyli> parka: try unmounting the usb drive and deleting the mount point
[01:14] <Computer__Guru> topyli: in the vanilla kernel, i can boot vga=791 just fine, but ive recompiled mine twice (with NOTHING changed from vanilla ubuntu except EXTRAVERSION and processor family), and both times, vga=791 gives me a blank screen, and i get no output till kdm initializes
[01:15] <Computer__Guru> thanks klaaa
[01:15] <Computer__Guru> err klaas
[01:15] <topyli> Computer__Guru: framebuffer fails
[01:15] <jinroh> Has anyone installed scilab on Ubuntu 5.04
[01:15] <johnnybezak> hey guys if I stop a wget transfer will it restart where it left off or start again?
[01:16] <Computer__Guru> topyli: yeah, but why would it fail if im using the kernel config file that came with ubuntu.. thats why im trying to figure out
[01:16] <parka> top: i might try, but i dont think that helps. usb doesnt mount after startup, have to mount it manually cos of a warty bug
[01:16] <heatxsink> anyone awake?
[01:16] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: wget has a 'continue' flag
[01:16] <raven3x7b> how long till my old self will time out? does anyone know?
[01:16] <klaas_> heatxsink: sure, it's 13:16 where I live..
[01:16] <pax> ^johns^: if you used wget -c yes
[01:16] <topyli> Computer__Guru: beats me :(
[01:16] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: will it work if I didn't use it to start off with?
[01:16] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: yip
[01:16] <nikkia> raven3x7: use /nickserv ghost <password>
[01:16] <raven3x7b> nikkia thanks
[01:17] <nikkia> but in answer to your question, up to 4 minutes
[01:17] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: so i just wget -c thefilename and itll resume?
[01:17] <sebastian> Oh **** internet is slow in Ubuntu, how do I fix that?
[01:17] <parka> top: and though it doesnt mount, nautilus behaves that strange way. only when displaying my home directory
[01:17] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: no, wget -c <the url>
[01:17] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: in the directory where the file is
[01:17] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: yeah sorry thats what I meant
[01:17] <pax> sebastian: stop downloading the internet (:
[01:17] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: thanks
[01:18] <nikkia> raven3x7: there you go, was just about to point out its /nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
[01:18] <parka> what would help me: is there a way to stop nautilus from open again and again after i killed the process?
[01:18] <topyli> parka: might be gam_server going nuts
[01:18] <topyli> parka: nautilus always restarts
[01:18] <parka> top: gam_server?
[01:19] <raven3x7> nikkia i figured it had to be? thanks
[01:19] <topyli> parka: yes, it's a daemon that tries to list and remember all files
[01:19] <raven3x7> forget that question mrk.
[01:19] <topyli> parka: to speed up nautilus
[01:19] <topyli> try killing that
[01:20] <parka> top: can't find it in the systems observation tool
[01:20] <anja> hi
[01:20] <parka> or in ps
[01:20] <hack_benjamin> how do i add groups?
[01:21] <sJaM> add a user to a group
[01:21] <anja> i have a short question. how can i say that the sshd should start per default?
[01:21] <sJaM> or make a new group ?
[01:21] <raven3x7> is there a way to burn .cue+.img images in linux?
[01:21] <pax> addroup?
[01:21] <klaas_> hack_benjamin: Desktop->Administration->Users & Groups
[01:21] <anja> under gentoo i only need rc-update
[01:21] <anja> how is this under ubuntu?
[01:21] <sJaM> under ubuntu it is started by default
[01:21] <sJaM> if you used
[01:21] <topyli> parka: hrm. well, perhaps it's the opposite and it _should_ be running (well normally it should :)
[01:21] <sJaM> apt-get install ssh-server
[01:21] <anja> yes?
[01:21] <klaas_> anja: update-rc.d
[01:21] <anja> ok thx
[01:21] <Corvus> raven3x7 you past convert them to .iso
[01:22] <linukso> anja: use rcconf
[01:22] <klaas_> anja: But if it's installed it'll startup by default.
[01:22] <raven3x7> Corvus using what app?
[01:22] <parka> top: just to go sure, its name is "gam_server"?
[01:22] <anja> klaas_, ok thx that waht i wane hear ;p
[01:22] <anja> by
[01:22] <pax> #groupadd newgroup  you can add a system group with # addroup -r newgroup
[01:23] <Computer__Guru> okay, we're gonna try this yet again
[01:23] <topyli> parka: i believe it's "gamin" that is responsible of starting gam_server
[01:23] <heatxsink> anyone in here ever use ssh-add in their login scripts?
[01:24] <zace> re
[01:24] <topyli> parka: but i don't really know how to start it manually, it's gnome-sessions job
[01:24] <klaas_> heatxsink: ssh-add?
[01:24] <heatxsink> nod
[01:24] <heatxsink> klaas_, yes
[01:24] <klaas_> heatxsink: nope, sorry
[01:24] <heatxsink> doh
[01:25] <parka> top: maybe you know how to open some directory with nautilus via bash? then i could avoid /home
[01:25] <dylan_> anybody know of a good backup utility for linux?
[01:26] <mindspin> bacula
[01:26] <klaas_> heatxsink: what do you need it for?
[01:26] <mindspin> thats for netwirks
[01:26] <mindspin> oops
[01:26] <mindspin> networks
[01:26] <klaas_> dylan_: rdiff-backup
[01:26] <heatxsink> klaas_, I have multiple servers I log into, and I'm tired of entering passwords
[01:27] <anubis> mplayer is where?
[01:27] <klaas_> heatxsink: Do you work from a single machine?
[01:27] <heatxsink> klaas_, so I was going to have Xsession run my ssh-add
[01:27] <heatxsink> klaas_, not all of the time
[01:27] <dylan_> thanks
[01:27] <anubis> are the repos on Ubunut starter guide ever going to be accurate?
[01:28] <topyli> parka: nautilus /home/parka/directory ?
[01:28] <klaas_> heatxsink: Okay, otherwise you could just create a key with ssh-keygen, and add it to the authorized-keys in your server's config.
[01:28] <heatxsink> did that already
[01:29] <heatxsink> trying to use ssh-agent
[01:29] <heatxsink> and ssh-add to manage keys
[01:29] <heatxsink> but I just searched the wiki
[01:29] <heatxsink> and there's a way of using keychain for that
[01:29] <visor> hi
[01:30] <visor> its odd, nobody's talking :S
[01:30] <parka> top: i'll try that after restarting. navigating thru my nautilus bookmarks migth be another way
[01:30] <parka> till i solved the mystery
[01:30] <parka> bad thing is, i have to work
[01:31] <klaas_> heatxsink: I used keychain once, it's great.
[01:31] <heatxsink> cool
[01:31] <visor> anyone have made the share option trough nautilus really to work?
[01:31] <heatxsink> I'll try that
[01:31] <heatxsink> i'm used to running ssh-add in Xsession
[01:31] <visor> i was wondering why is there if it doesnt by default
[01:31] <heatxsink> and doing everything once
[01:31] <dylan_> is there a graphical kind of rdiff-backup ?
[01:32] <heatxsink> but it seems keychain is the exact same thing but gnome integrated
[01:32] <heatxsink> not X integrated
[01:32] <visor> even the ubuntuguide has this info but it doesnt work out of the box
[01:32] <topyli> parka: that does sound pretty bad on a sunday. it's a sin you know ;)
[01:32] <klaas_> dylan_: Don't think so, you can make a script and run it in a cron job.
[01:32] <dylan_> ok
[01:32] <klaas_> dylan_: to what medium do you want to backup?
[01:33] <dylan_> external hard disk
[01:33] <dylan_> USB 2.0 / FireWire
[01:33] <klaas_> dylan_: Do you want to backup a single computer?
[01:33] <heatxsink> klaas_, why does it need the public key?
[01:33] <topyli> dylan_: unison-gtk
[01:33] <heatxsink> that's weird
[01:33] <dylan_> thanks
[01:33] <topyli> dylan_: but why do you want a graphical backup tool? it's supposed to happen automatically via cron
[01:34] <klaas_> heatxsink: I'll check it out, it's well over a year and a half since I used it so... let me refresh my memory first.
[01:34] <dylan_> i want to be able to drag and drop but was wondering if there was an additional tool
[01:34] <topyli> dylan_: unison doesn't do that
[01:34] <parka> topyli: thanks a lot for your help
[01:35] <heatxsink> klaas_, thanks!
[01:35] <topyli> parka: np, even though it was not very helpful :)
[01:35] <dylan_> could i just drag and drop to the external drive?
[01:35] <topyli> dylan_: sure, but that won't diff
[01:36] <dylan_> what's diff?
[01:36] <topyli> dylan_: like rdiff does
[01:37] <topyli> dylan_: drag'n'drop will be interactive and very annoying with a lot of files
[01:37] <sebastian> How do I upgrade to the latest version of Open Office?
[01:38] <dylan_> topyli, i am hoping to make a folder then just shove everything in there  ctrl + c my friend
[01:39] <slask3n> how to add an user to sdo, without root privelegies.?
[01:39] <slask3n> sudo*
[01:39] <topyli> sebastian: pavel always has the latest builds: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/
[01:39] <topyli> debs too
[01:39] <infinito> slask3n,  sudo visudo
[01:40] <HappyFool> slask3n: if you can't get root privileges, (via sudo or su), you can't
[01:40] <topyli> dylan_: i see no problem there. is there one? :)
[01:40] <sebastian> Or if that is set up properly, add the user to the adm/admin group.
[01:40] <dylan_> is there one what?
[01:40] <dylan_> oh, no no problem
[01:40] <dylan_> thanks for all the help!  :)
[01:40] <raven3x7> sebastian i think there is a 2.0 beta in the repos
[01:41] <hmrocha> Hello
[01:41] <fanskapet> agh something is broken in my apt-archive
[01:41] <topyli> raven3x7: it's an old version and doesn't work very well
[01:41] <sebastian> topyli, Oh didn't need a that recent version, just one of the 2.0 betas and I'm fine.
[01:42] <topyli> ah
[01:42] <hmrocha> how can i add the ubuntu backports to hoary?
[01:42] <fanskapet> i can't install fglrx *starts chewing on my keyboard*
[01:42] <Myrtti> you don't
[01:42] <fanskapet>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:42] <fanskapet> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:42] <fanskapet>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb
[01:42] <fanskapet> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:42] <fanskapet> anyone know anything about these errors?
[01:43] <Pro_Newbie> does someone know from where to download Transgaming.Point2Play.v1.3.1.for.Linux-LAXiTY
[01:43] <fanskapet> tryed to 'fix the broken packages' but that doesn't help me with this.
[01:43] <raven3x7> topyli oh... i guess  should check bfore talking
[01:43] <hmrocha> Myrtti, why?
[01:43] <Pro_Newbie> or Transgaming.Point2Play.v2.0.1.for.Linux-LAXiTY
[01:44] <klaas_> heatxsink: Sorry, it's too long ago to just pop up the answer.
[01:44] <dylan_> Why is gtkpod telling me that my iPod's file structure is invalid?
[01:44] <Myrtti> because backports are the gateway to hell
[01:44] <topyli> raven3x7: it's developing very quickly. the latest builds are starting to be very usable
[01:44] <sebastian> Hmm, is it possible to just copy my firefox profile from windows?
[01:45] <hmrocha> Myrtti, but i'm using breezy, i want to go back to hoary
[01:45] <fanskapet> hmm noone knows how to solve my issue?
[01:45] <tiago> can some one tell me what this means please? im watching a movie in Kaffeine Player and its saying restoring index **%...
[01:45] <erirlar> whats the name of the app that extracs tar.gz files in nautilus again?
[01:45] <hmrocha> Myrtti, breezy is not the gateway to hell, it's the hell already :)
[01:46] <bodq> hello
[01:46] <erirlar> solved - file-roller
[01:46] <bodq> does 'shipit' really work? :) where can I track the status of my request?
[01:46] <raven3x7> topyli yeah although i thought it was supposed to have been released by now. Also i hope ubuntu can use the work Fedora did to get OO working with gcj cause otherwise we might get a crippled version
[01:47] <topyli> raven3x7: they are postponing the release all the time because there are still problems. it's the longhorn of the free software world :)
[01:47] <raven3x7> sebastian unlikely. you would at least have to edit you paths. if you google there might be a guide though
[01:47] <fanskapet> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 .. agh
[01:47] <raven3x7> topyli rotfl
[01:48] <fanskapet> even though i've fixed the broken dependen... in synaptic
[01:48] <HappyFool> you can probably copy at least bookmarks.html from windows to linux, for firefox
[01:48] <visor> so, have you made to work the nautilus share feature? >_<
[01:48] <fanskapet> i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8993&highlight=mobility+9700+amd64 that tutorial
[01:49] <fanskapet> can it have with the "dpkg-divert" command?
[01:49] <fanskapet> have todo.. even.
[01:51] <sebastian> Where do I manage my drives? Or how do I open my NTFS drives?
[01:52] <reka> bodq: how long have you been waiting?
[01:52] <HappyFool> fanskapet: i don't know dpkg-divert, but maybe you can try running dpkg -i on that .deb file, and try to see what the error is
[01:52] <fanskapet> searcher`,  fdisk -l
[01:52] <HappyFool> fanskapet: take a look at 'man dpkg' for debug flags -- there are lots under -d
[01:52] <bodq> reka: one day :) no, really I just wanted to confirm that it's working to start boasting :)
[01:53] <raven3x7> topyli lol thats gonna be a long wait
[01:53] <reka> bodq: heh
[01:53] <reka> bodq: they're shipping it for free....and you expect a running commentary? :)
[01:53] <fanskapet> searcher`,  and then just mount them in fstab
[01:54] <bodq> reka: I expect at least "you request has been accepted" message :)
[01:54] <fanskapet> searcher`,  if you give the partition the "user" option in fstab it will be inserted in your "computer" window in GNOME
[01:54] <sebastian> HappyFool, I was more thinking of my settings and extensions.
[01:55] <reka> bodq: wasn't there one?  from what i've seen: 4-10 weeks, depending on where you are.
[01:56] <reka> sebastian: i think fanskapet's talking to *you*. :)
[01:56] <fanskapet> HappyFool, dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib32/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.distrib by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[01:56] <fanskapet> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[01:56] <HappyFool> sebastian: sorry, i don't know. as someone else said, that may be tricky
[01:56] <jamesDOOD> Hello everybody
[01:56] <fanskapet> that is was apt-get install xorg-driver.... gives me
[01:56] <jamesDOOD> I have a new question
[01:56] <HappyFool> fanskapet: hmm. maybe remove the mesa drivers ?
[01:57] <jamesDOOD> How do you setup a creative Modem Blaster pci card in Warty?
[01:57] <HappyFool> fanskapet: oh, no
[01:57] <fanskapet> hmm don't have them installed i think. but it's worth to check :P
[01:57] <jamesDOOD> It seems like it is not automatically detected
[01:57] <fanskapet> HappyFool, what? :)
[01:57] <HappyFool> fanskapet: the package is conflicting with itself... ?
[01:57] <jamesDOOD> actually, it cannot be found at all (supposedly)
[01:57] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, its a winmodem
[01:57] <fanskapet> HappyFool, hmm well i dunno really
[01:58] <fanskapet> I try installing the one from sunaptic package manager right now
[01:58] <jamesDOOD> I thought the modem blaster had their own rubbish going on board
[01:58] <jamesDOOD> ie. not a winmodem
[01:58] <fanskapet> ahh yeah sebastian even :D not searcher`  :)
[01:58] <HappyFool> fanskapet: '.. by xorg-driver-fglrx conflicts with ... by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[01:58] <jamesDOOD> ok then, is there anythign I can do to get it to work?
[01:58] <fanskapet> hmm odd :)
[01:58] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, is it external?
[01:58] <jamesDOOD> internal
[01:58] <HappyFool> fanskapet: do you have an xorg-driver-fglrx package already installed?
[01:58] <fanskapet> and how is there any way  to  solve this issue? :D
[01:59] <raven3x7> there is let me get the link
[01:59] <fanskapet> I don't think so or well
[01:59] <HappyFool> fanskapet: try 'dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx|grep ^ii'
[01:59] <tombs> hi ppl
[01:59] <heatxsink> with the sessions -> startup programs tab
[01:59] <oga> hello
[01:59] <anubis> text not visible
[01:59] <fanskapet> HappyFool, didn't output anything at all in bash
[01:59] <heatxsink> how do I make sure to invoke a startup program?
[01:59] <raven3x7> jamesDOOD, http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ detailed instructions available there
[02:00] <rommer> is it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?
[02:00] <raven3x7> !binary
[02:00] <ubotu> raven3x7: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:00] <HappyFool> fanskapet: so, not installed. Sorry, i don't have a clue -- at a guess, that package is fubared. I can't see how it can conflict with itself
[02:00] <raven3x7> dawm
[02:00] <tiago> hi i just install gnome under kubuntu and im having problems would some one be able to help me out?
[02:00] <fanskapet> agh
[02:00] <fanskapet> well it is a totally new installation
[02:00] <jamesDOOD> raven: Thanks!
[02:00] <tiago> im in gnome now
[02:00] <fanskapet> so maybe it's worth just reinstalling ubuntu instead of hunting down this error :D
[02:00] <oga> hello. im running irssi-text right now, how do i get back to the console. without quiting irssi
[02:01] <HappyFool> fanskapet: i don't know -- haven't played with amd64/ati at all
[02:02] <tiago> the pannal is empty
[02:02] <tiago> and its very small
[02:02] <james_> how is the wine command used? I mean when launching a program i do     #wine <path to game.exe> -openGL
[02:02] <tiago> all there is is a computer and trash icon
[02:02] <tiago> this is gay
[02:02] <tiago> and you guys arnt very helpfull...
[02:02] <rommer> is it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?
[02:02] <tiago> looks like its back to kde for me
[02:03] <james_> Accept it comes up with -openGL is not a regonised command?
[02:03] <raven3x7> james_, i doubt wine can play games. at least it cant play most
[02:03] <HappyFool> james_: maybe put the -openGL before the command (this is a guess)
[02:03] <james_> raven3x7: its not game, 3d graphics software
[02:03] <bodq> raven3x7: it can
[02:04] <james_> It loads the program fine, but when the openGL viewport trys to kick in it boots me out
[02:04] <reka> oga: can't be done afaik, unless you're using screen
[02:04] <raven3x7> really? i though the reason it couldnt is why cedega is around
[02:04] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[02:04] <james_> is their a way in which I could test openGL within the wine enviroment?
[02:05] <HappyFool> james_: try to find a simple windows opengl program
[02:05] <raven3x7> bodq, really? i though because it couldnt is why cedega is around
[02:05] <u11rko> someone spanish??
[02:05] <james_> it can run games fine
[02:05] <hoof> how do upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.11
[02:05] <HappyFool> u11rko: try /join #ubuntu-es
[02:05] <HappyFool> hoof: upgrade from warty to hoary ;)
[02:05] <da_bon_bon> how do fedora and ubuntu differ ? (apart from rpm and deb core..)
[02:06] <sJaM> human vs bluecurve
[02:06] <james_> Ok, will do
[02:06] <raven3x7> ubuntu is faster imho
[02:06] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: ubuntu comes on 1 cd. runlevels are different, as are the /etc/init.d/ services setup
[02:06] <sJaM> apt-get upgrade
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> oh
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> ok
[02:06] <hoof> Hppyfool, can we talk in private so i can take your instructions clearly?
[02:06] <hoof> Happyfool, can we talk in private so i can take your instructions clearly?
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> other ?
[02:06] <bodq> raven3x7: take that as my sobjective opinion, please :)
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> thanks, HappyFool :)
[02:06] <HappyFool> hoof: if you like
[02:07] <da_bon_bon> i am a long time fedora and slackware user -- will i feel at-home with ubuntu ?
[02:07] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: there's probably many more, but that's what stuck out to me (ex fedora-user)
[02:07] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: well, it's still linux ;)
[02:07] <fanskapet> ahh
[02:07] <fanskapet> solved my problem
[02:08] <raven3x7> bodq, i always consider opinions subjective ;) my own included. i never tried that is why i was curious
[02:08] <HappyFool> fanskapet: what was it?
[02:08] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: ok..
[02:08] <anubis> damn shame I got to use gaim to get on irc because the "new" xchat is visually impared
[02:08] <da_bon_bon> i have a DAMN slow net, so i almost never update -- not even security -- would that be a major issue ?
[02:08] <fanskapet> HappyFool, I removed the /usr/share/fglrx folder
[02:08] <anubis> Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:08] <anubis> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:08] <anubis> is only available from another source
[02:08] <anubis> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[02:08] <anubis> I'm seeing these errors often
[02:09] <anubis> whats with that?
[02:09] <fanskapet> and removed all the libGL rows in /var/lib/dpkg/diversions
[02:09] <HappyFool> fanskapet: ok. bizarre
[02:09] <reka> sigh
[02:09] <anubis> irssi is no longer availible?
[02:09] <reka> anubis: there is no irssi package
[02:09] <linukso> anubis: irssi comes with the default install
[02:09] <fanskapet> and then reinstalled it via apt-get
[02:09] <fanskapet> :)
[02:09] <reka> anubis: install irssi-text
[02:09] <fanskapet> yeah a bit odd.. but.. well well :)
[02:09] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: i have a DAMN slow net, so i almost never update -- not even security -- would that be a major issue ?
[02:09] <HappyFool> fanskapet: ok. i would never ever have known that.
[02:10] <bodq> raven3x7: it runs Quake3 quite fine. (not that it made sense in the first place -- q3 has native linux binaries -- but as a experiment...) . I'm not certain abuot the D3D support, though.
[02:10] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: coz, fedora, imo, is stable enough not to update frequently.
[02:10] <rommer> is it possible to make an ubuntu linux cluster?
[02:10] <sebastian> After installing KDE can I run it without exiting Gnome?
[02:10] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: it's recommended to update; security updates are released fairly regularly
[02:10] <linukso> rommer: everything is possible...
[02:11] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: i removed large apps like openoffice and evolution so i don't need to update them
[02:11] <rommer> linkuso: well, not EVERYTHING
[02:11] <reka> sebastian: no,  it's a desktop environment, not a program.
[02:11] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: but i am on a 2kbps pay per minute net
[02:11] <AlexBO> hello!I'd like to burn a cd, but #cdrecord scanbus doesn't find any CD Record, although Nautilus Cd Burner and k3b do. How can it be?
[02:11] <da_bon_bon> dial up
[02:11] <bodq> raven3x7: oh well, my lil 3d3 appie doesn't work under wine, but it might be as well a but in my appie.
[02:11] <james_> HappyFool: In Cedega the small openGL game works fine, in Wine it comes up with 'Can't Create DplayPeer'. So it shows Opengl works more or less... Still the app does not work in Cedgra as well
[02:11] <raven3x7> bodq interesting. im quite sure wine doesnt do d3d but i suppose it cold run opengl windows games. makes sense actually
[02:12] <bodq> raven3x7: but d3d calls are working
[02:12] <bodq> raven3x7: i'm getting "invalid surface" errors
[02:12] <raven3x7> bodq hmmm
[02:12] <HappyFool> james_: well, it sounds like you've reached the limits of wine -- i'm afraid i can't help further
[02:12] <sebastian> Ok, can I set the QT theme from Gnome then? The default is terribly ugly.
[02:12] <bodq> raven3x7: Wine 20050524
[02:13] <james_> HappyFool: Np, just i know other people have managed to get the program working without any errors. So ive got a feeling that im doing something wrong this end somehow
[02:13] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: ouch
[02:13] <AlexBO> I've looked for it, but I haven't found anything.Can anybody help me?
[02:13] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: but, if you're not on the net much anyway, and it's a single-user machine, maybe it's not too critical
[02:13] <raven3x7> bodq im not that experienced with wine really.
[02:13] <reka> sebastian: gnome-theme-manager
[02:14] <bodq> raven3x7: neither am I, just experimenting :)
[02:14] <anubis_> terrible
[02:14] <bodq> raven3x7: ok, leave this discussion to #wine
[02:14] <da_bon_bon> hehe.. ok, HappyFool
[02:15] <AlexBO> hello!I'd like to burn a cd, but #cdrecord scanbus doesn't find any CD Record, although Nautilus Cd Burner and k3b do. How can it be?
[02:15] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: is the live cd as good as the install cd ?
[02:16] <HappyFool> AlexBO: cdrecord has some issues with new linux kernels, or so it looks like.
[02:16] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: i want to have "taste" of ubuntu b4 installing it.
[02:16] <AlexBO> HappyFool: how can i make it work?
[02:16] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: i'm not sure what you're asking. they both work... ? oh, yeah, the livecd is a good test
[02:16] <HappyFool> AlexBO: i don't know; you probably can't
[02:17] <sebastian> reka, No I wan't to edit the qt theme.
[02:17] <sebastian> *change
[02:17] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: what made you shift from fedora to ubuntu ?
[02:17] <AlexBO> HappyFool: REALLY? wao....that's good
[02:17] <parka> just came in to let me buy you all a drink. especially topyli. i finally managed to stop nautilus from going nuts. please don't ever change the user-defined symbols in nautilus. it caused me a lot of stress today
[02:17] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: and, coming from fedora, i think you are accustomed to lack of mp3 and video .. :) how did you go about it ?
[02:20] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: curiousity made me shift, and i liked it. also, apt-get is really nice.
[02:20] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: for audio/video stuff, you can read this:
[02:20] <HappyFool> !restricted
[02:20] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:20] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: that's a recipe for installing codecs etc, and a dvd-decoding lib
[02:21] <da_bon_bon> oh.. ok, HappyFool, thanks a lot :)
[02:21] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: i listen to mp3's and watch dvd's on my machine fairly regularly without any problems
[02:21] <parka> thanks for staying with me in that crucial hour ;-) wish all of you a happy unbuggy sunday. bye
[02:22] <da_bon_bon> man! backports already has gcc4 ! w00t!
[02:22] <moZer> i'm having problems with /boot on a raid1 partition not starting correctly
[02:22] <moZer> i'm dropped into a shell during boot, and it complains that /dev/md0 isn't present
[02:22] <moZer> but it is, and if i mount it manually and exit the shell, all is well
[02:23] <olivier> I'm looking to 6.8.2-36 xorg packages, where can I find them?
[02:23] <HappyFool> moZer: at a guess, add md (and raid1) to /etc/modules
[02:23] <gyaresu> evening (aus) all.
[02:23] <sebastian> Hmm I downloaded Open Office and extracted the .deb files into a folder, but when I double click them they only get opened in my archiver. How do I install?
[02:23] <ermac`> can someone give me the quide for the screenresolution problem???
[02:23] <HappyFool> moZer: i don't know if the initrd image needs to updated, somehow -- i'm not too familiar with that
[02:23] <moZer> HappyFool:  i have / on a raid0 device, and it starts and mounts correctly
[02:23] <gyaresu> sebastian, why don't you 'apt-get install openoffice'  ?
[02:23] <Corvus> did anyone had problems with it's dvd unit ? input/output errors
[02:23] <yahalom> how do i close port 22?
[02:24] <sebastian> gyaresu, Because that is very outdated.
[02:24] <ermac`> can someone give me the quide for the screenresolution problem???
[02:24] <gyaresu> sebastian, right. good luck.
[02:24] <othernoob> gyaresu: the OOo2 version in the repos is crap, ie broke
[02:24] <yahalom> ermac`, what sur prob?
[02:24] <moZer> yahalom:  you terminate the application that is listening on the port, probably sshd
[02:24] <Corvus> my dvd unit is giving read errors, but the unit is well as it works on other os
[02:24] <HappyFool> moZer: hrm. ok, i'm not a raid user (yet), so I can't supply any expert answers
[02:24] <gyaresu> othernoob, broke? really. :(
[02:24] <othernoob> gyaresu: yes.
[02:24] <ermac`> yahalom i cant get higher then 800*600 screen reso... normally i get above 1024
[02:24] <yahalom> moZer, but i opened the port in order to listen to it? or u saying that ssh did that?
[02:25] <yahalom> ermac`, did u add a higher resolution to ur xorg.conf?
[02:25] <da_bon_bon> thanks a lot, HappyFool, catch ya later :)
[02:25] <fanskapet_> ahh there we go.. hw-OGL support aswell :P
[02:25] <HappyFool> chrs da_bon_bon
[02:25] <ermac`> its something with horizsync thats the problem... yahalom
[02:25] <gyaresu> !resolution
[02:25] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:25] <ermac`> thx
[02:25] <gyaresu> ermac`, welcome.
[02:25] <moZer> yahalom:  netstat -tlnp as root, then you'll see what process is listening on port 22
[02:26] <ermac`> XD
[02:26] <moZer> yahalom:  sudo netstat -tlnp
[02:26] <gyaresu> ermac`, find out your video monitor and vsync hsync rates...
[02:26] <gyaresu> erirlar, vsync (vertical) hsync (horizontal)
[02:26] <da_bon_bon> cya all
[02:26] <Corvus> no one had problems with a dvd unit in the past ?
[02:27] <gyaresu> Corvus, plenty.
[02:27] <yahalom> moZer, sshd
[02:27] <gyaresu> Corvus, have you enabled DMA? (that shoudn't be it.)
[02:27] <sebastian> How do I make Ubuntu keep using the resolution I set?
[02:27] <yahalom> moZer, so once i close the connection it will end?
[02:27] <Corvus> yes, it's enabled by default
[02:28] <gyaresu> Corvus, tried multiple disks (had to ask)
[02:28] <gyaresu> sebastian, 2 servers and a dfi lanparty sli-d gig-corsair ram....
[02:28] <Corvus> yes, and except dvdrw, i tried any media
[02:28] <yahalom> ermac`, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste it at pastebin.com and then give me the link
[02:28] <gyaresu> sebastian, what better way to MAKE yourself learn about computers... :)
[02:29] <yahalom> moZer, ?
[02:29] <gyaresu> sebastian, have you messed with your xorg.config?
[02:29] <reka> Corvus: as in burning?  try a slower speed
[02:29] <Corvus> using hdaparm it gives me this error
[02:29] <Corvus>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[02:29] <gyaresu> Corvus, can you preface your comments to me with my name please. i need the beeps :)
[02:29] <Corvus> ams, ok
[02:30] <gyaresu> Corvus, what are you using to burn?
[02:30] <gyaresu> Corvus, software i mean.
[02:30] <Corvus> gnomebaker
[02:30] <moZer> yahalom:  /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[02:30] <gyaresu> Corvus, got bandwidth? k3b.
[02:30] <gyaresu> Corvus, it's still really devel.
[02:30] <yahalom> moZer, and that will close the port? and we're safe again?
[02:30] <olivier> ls
[02:30] <gyaresu> Corvus, IMO
[02:30] <olivier> oops
[02:30] <sebastian> gyaresu, Well, I like learning about computers, but I prefer to do it in my own pace...
[02:31] <moZer> yahalom: that  will stop the ssh server yes
[02:31] <yahalom> moZer, thanx man
[02:31] <moZer> yahalom: why do you think that running sshd makes you unsafe?
[02:31] <gyaresu> sebastian, should have seen me trying to burn a disk on 3 comps last night that HAD to be done. (ended up installing K3b on the main box just to get it done....)
[02:32] <othernoob> Corvus: are you sure DMA is enabled? because it isn't by default
[02:33] <sebastian> gyaresu, Hehe, the best cd burning tool I've used is a windows port of Linux software.
[02:33] <sebastian> With some GUI wrappers.
[02:33] <gyaresu> sebastian, not nero then...
[02:33] <zkl> my last saved session and the failsafe gnome session is borked...how can i fix that?
[02:34] <Corvus> othernoob: i was looking that now, i remembered that i enabled it in the past, as i saw now, it was disabled as you say, i will try it now
[02:34] <sebastian> Not nero, I don't like it, unstandard gui and too many windows.
[02:34] <gyaresu> Corvus, /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:35] <othernoob> gyaresu: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd* would work for the moment
[02:35] <Corvus> gyaresu, yes, i just changed it now, it will be enough a mount -a to enable the changes ?
[02:35] <othernoob> Corvus: mount -a has nothing to do with it
[02:35] <gyaresu> othernoob, Corvus othernoob's line is enough.
[02:35] <gyaresu> Corvus, /etc/hdparm.conf to make it permanent.
[02:36] <hume> hi...i'm doing my very first installation of ubuntu - and get a bit confused: when is the root password set?
[02:36] <HappyFool> hume: it isn't; ubuntu uses sudo by default
[02:36] <HappyFool> !sudo
[02:36] <othernoob> Corvus: to check whether DMA is enabled for a cd/dvd drive do sudo hdparm -v /dev/hd*, * being c for example if it is hdc
[02:36] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:36] <gyaresu> Corvus, the wiki needs work but this will help http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom
[02:36] <HappyFool> hume: you can read that for more
[02:36] <Corvus> gyaresu, ok, i have do both changes
[02:36] <sebastian> There should be a "fix gui for all small tasks" project, in Python. Much of the annoying small tasks that you need to do in config files could easily be GUI-fied, it'd make Linux a much better os for all of us that likes clicking rather than typing.
[02:36] <hume> !sudo
[02:37] <hume> thx
[02:37] <sebastian> If there was one I'd like to help.
[02:37] <moZer> does everydoby know that disabling pango in firefox will make reflow twice as fast?
[02:37] <sebastian> pango?
[02:37] <gyaresu> !tell hume about factoids
[02:38] <gyaresu> sebastian, you aint got the CLI groove then :) it's da bomb!
[02:39] <HappyFool> sebastian: i get the idea the gui is being developed along those lines -- i think breezy will have gui-level mounting, for example
[02:40] <othernoob> how disgusting..gui mounting..
[02:40] <concept10> moZer, whats pango
[02:40] <moZer> you can try it by opening the default home page file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html and resizing the window for a while, then edit /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox and set MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 and export MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO, then resize the home page again
[02:40] <gyaresu> othernoob, more of that damn 'just works' mentality :)
[02:40] <zkl> my last saved session and the failsafe gnome session is borked so that no panels/panel widgets/menus are drawn...any ideas on where to start tracking down why this is happening?
[02:40] <moZer> lines 154 and 155
[02:40] <othernoob> :)
[02:41] <concept10> moZer, what do you have your pipeline requests set to?
[02:41] <gyaresu> zkl,  no. what was the last thing you did?
[02:41] <moZer> note that it says "MOZ_ENABLE_PANGO=1", but changning that to 0 does not disable pango, you need do do like i said above
[02:41] <moZer> concept10:  pipeline requests?
[02:42] <zkl> gyaresu: i rearranged the panels & widgets, and logged out w/ save session
[02:42] <concept10> open about:config and type pipeline in the search box
[02:42] <gyaresu> zkl, k. i'm looking.
[02:43] <concept10> moZer, did you find it?
[02:43] <gyaresu> zkl, i'm guessing theres a .session file somewhere...
[02:43] <sebastian> Hmm, isn't there possible to run two x sessions, on on f7 and one on f8?
[02:43] <Corvus> gyaresu, i have been looking at hdparm more, there is an example for a cdrom units, what for is interrupt_unmask ?
[02:43] <HappyFool> sebastian: yeah applications -> system tools -> new login
[02:44] <wings> what command should I issue if I wanted to format hdb1?
[02:44] <nightswim> mkfs.yourfs /dev/hdb1
[02:45] <gyaresu> nightswim, wings not quite...
[02:46] <gyaresu> nightswim, wings mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (for example)
[02:46] <wings> I see
[02:47] <zkl> gyaresu: /.gnome2/session, probably...is there a way i can step through each line of that script?
[02:47] <msch> I'm using Ubuntu Hoary Server on an old PC and there is a several minute delay between me logging on through xdm and the startup of fluxbox. During that time the X-Process hogs the CPU and I don't understand why, nor how to stop that. Anyone got any clues?
[02:48] <HappyFool> msch: not specifically; look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if you see any problems
[02:48] <the_walrus> can anyone tell me how to get a java development environment installed?
[02:49] <sebastian> How do I rum kde in a separate session to the gnome session?
[02:49] <HappyFool> !java
[02:49] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[02:49] <msch> according to the logs, there's no explanation for the delay.
[02:49] <the_walrus> thanks
[02:49] <HappyFool> the_walrus: take a look at that wiki page; make sure you get the jdk-*bin (i forget the complete name)
[02:51] <benkong2> hello everyone I am having major troubles with setting up a printer and cups has a message administrative tasks disabled. what can I do?
[02:52] <gyaresu> zkl, i can't find a sensible answer. ;you can always try 'mv' ing it. restart gnome.
[02:52] <msch> HappyFool: The delay doesn't generate any logs. xdm starts Xsession and that's it: X uses 100% CPU
[02:52] <gyaresu> !printers
[02:52] <ubotu> somebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[02:52] <HappyFool> msch: sorry, i don't know what could be wrong. if you're a hacker, you can mabye try strace; otherwise, i'm out of ideas
[02:52] <gyaresu> benkong2, is your printer supported?
[02:52] <lesshaste> can anyone recommend an app to play midi files?
[02:53] <benkong2> gyaresu, yes it needs hpljet3 driver
[02:53] <msch> HappyFool: Without being a hacker, strace only revealed lots of SIG_ALRT calls, but that seems normal.
[02:53] <benkong2> ubotu, thanks
[02:53] <ubotu> benkong2: de rien
[02:53] <gyaresu> benkong2, i don't know that driver but have you installed it?
[02:53] <benkong2> ubotu, de rien??
[02:53] <ubotu> benkong2: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:54] <gyaresu> !factoids
[02:54] <ubotu> factoids is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:54] <benkong2> gyaresu, my assumption was that since printers > administration gave me the option it was installed
[02:55] <benkong2> gyaresu, If I could enable cups at localhost:631 I could fix it using cups and gimp-print
[02:56] <gyaresu> benkong2, cups problems too?
[02:57] <benkong2> gyaresu, when i browse to localhost:631 cups administration page is there i did grep and the cupsd dameon is running however in the cups admin page there is a small red banner directing me to use the  system-> printer menu choices because administration privilidges have been turned off.
[02:58] <gyaresu> benkong2, have you enabled a root user?
[02:59] <zwnj> i have problems with firefox 1.0.4 from ubuntu-backport. :( anyone has too?
[02:59] <Winux> Hello
[02:59] <sJaM> well benkong2 then you have to edit the cups conf
[02:59] <zwnj> it hangs for seconds while installing extensions, also when loading external player
[02:59] <Winux> No, but I have a problem with my CD-Rom
[03:00] <benkong2> gyaresu, yes root user enabled
[03:00] <Winux> FUCK GNOMEBAKER!
[03:00] <gyaresu> Winux, language please...
[03:00] <benkong2> sJaM, edit cups conf let me check.....
[03:00] <concept10> Winux, that is not necessary
[03:00] <Winux> It doesn't work
[03:01] <Winux> Another failure
[03:01] <gyaresu> Winux, try K3b if gnome baker is bj0rked... 100meg dload but maybe if you need it...
[03:01] <gyaresu> Winux, it's still devel...
[03:01] <Winux> k3b doesn't work too
[03:01] <nophix> how do you add a user to a group? 'sudo adduser -g cdrom loser' doesn't work :/
[03:01] <gyaresu> nophix, 'sudo vi /etc/group'
[03:01] <concept10> Winux, you might have other problems - it may not be the application
[03:01] <Winux> Argh
[03:02] <gyaresu> Winux, short deep breaths...
[03:02] <concept10> Winux, what doesnt it do?
[03:02] <nophix> gyaresu: how? audio:x:29:nophix,loser ?
[03:02] <azol> nophix: System --> Administration --> Users and Groups
[03:02] <gyaresu> benkong2, I'm not really helping here....
[03:03] <Winux> k3b can't unlock my Cd-Burner
[03:03] <nophix> azol: sorry, don't have those menus :)
[03:03] <Winux> What's wrong with it??? :'(
[03:03] <gyaresu> nophix, yeah. add your username to the end of the group you want to be part of.
[03:03] <benkong2> gyaresu, np i am checking cupsd.conf to look for settings thanks
[03:03] <gyaresu> Winux, reboot. something has it locked or ... 'sudo eject'
[03:03] <nophix> gyaresu: ok, thanks
[03:04] <Winux> hmm
[03:04] <Winux> okay
[03:06] <othernoob> gyaresu: maybe he should try unmounting it first...
[03:08] <gyaresu> othernoob, Winux try unmounting it first 'umount -l /dev/hdc' or whatever your cdrom is.
[03:08] <sJaM> benkong2, I think you have to setup a password for root
[03:08] <gyaresu> othernoob, Winux try unmounting it first 'sudo umount -l /dev/hdc' or whatever your cdrom is. (sorry)
[03:08] <sJaM> and just login as root
[03:08] <sJaM> which is not the ubuntu way of doing things
[03:08] <benkong2> sJaM, I may have it let me check
[03:09] <gyaresu> sJaM, benkong2 no.
[03:09] <sJaM> because
[03:09] <gyaresu> sJaM, benkong2 cups is as the cupsys user....
[03:09] <benkong2> gyaresu, k
[03:09] <othernoob> or sudo umount -f /dev/hdX ...X being the letter of your cd/dvd drive
[03:09] <sJaM> k
[03:09] <sJaM>  /admin has AuthClass System
[03:10] <sJaM> and System means any valid user belonging to SystemGroup
[03:10] <sJaM> which is lpadmin
[03:11] <gyaresu> sJaM, you may be right but i couldn't log in to my cups at localhost:631 with root:passwd
[03:11] <sJaM> yes
[03:11] <dylan_> why cant the gnome cd writing front end write audio CDs properly?
[03:11] <sJaM> that is because
[03:11] <sJaM> that line
[03:11] <sJaM> setting up SystemGroup lpadmin
[03:11] <sJaM> is commented out
[03:11] <sJaM> and the default cups behaviour is
[03:12] <sJaM> The default varies depending on the operating system, but
[03:12] <sJaM>     707 # will be "sys", "system", or "root" (checked for in that order.)
[03:12] <gyaresu> sJaM, no cups expert here. (cause it's usually worked for me over the years)
[03:12] <benkong2> gyaresu, sJaM ; thanks got it fixed one must use the correct port and ubuntu rocks works like a dream using the menu. This distro is sooooo cool
[03:12] <benkong2> gyaresu, sJaM ; thanks for your suggestions guided me to the solution
[03:12] <gyaresu> benkong2, correct port?
[03:13] <Winux> hm
[03:13] <benkong2> gyaresu, actually 9100 is the port I have my jetdirect printer driver at 192.168.1.60 not 192.168.1.80 as I had put in the dialog did a ping and remembered the correct address.
[03:13] <gyaresu> Winux, :) slow deep breaths Winux
[03:14] <gyaresu> benkong2, nice. congrats.
[03:14] <benkong2> gyaresu, thanks
[03:15] <sJaM> uncommenting line 712 didn't worked :(
[03:15] <sJaM> though
[03:15] <Winux> When I start burning a CD with K3B there comes an error-message: couldn't unlock CD-Rom
[03:16] <sJaM> what did you did ben_d
[03:16] <sJaM> sorry
[03:16] <sJaM> what did you did benkong2
[03:16] <benkong2> sJaM, actually 9100 is the port I have my jetdirect printer driver at 192.168.1.60 not 192.168.1.80 as I had put in the dialog did a ping and remembered the correct address.
[03:16] <gyaresu> Winux, did you eject the cd that was in there?
[03:16] <sJaM> so you still can't come in cups using the browser ?
[03:16] <benkong2> sJaM, short story i had the wrong ip address
[03:16] <gyaresu> Winux, (sounds like a reboot)
[03:17] <Winux> Yes, but that opens the CD-Rom, not the CD-Writer
[03:17] <gyaresu> Winux, I think it may be a 'lock' file but that's just off the top of my head.
[03:18] <yahalom> guys can someone explain what would cause DVDs to play choppy on a ADM XP 2000+ 200MB RAM?
[03:18] <coral> i can't seem to find an ubuntu package for bamboo-dht (.org) anywhere in the various sources i have here.
[03:18] <coral> does anyone else know if a package exists?
[03:18] <yahalom> i installed the k7 kernel maybe i should use the 386?
[03:18] <gyaresu> !tell yahalom about dma
[03:18] <LinuxJones> yahalom, maybe dma is not enabled on your dvd drive
[03:18] <moZer> any way to build a deb from sun jdk to integrate with the package management?
[03:18] <yahalom> gyaresu, than
[03:18] <yahalom> x
[03:18] <yahalom> LinuxJones, how do i enable it?
[03:19] <gyaresu> yahalom, welcome.
[03:19] <scoon> hey all, anyone here switching to virtual terminals w/ breezy ?
[03:19] <sebastian> How can I install verdana?
[03:19] <scoon> or having problems doing so ?
[03:19] <gyaresu> !fonts
[03:19] <ubotu> methinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:19] <moZer> !java
[03:19] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[03:19] <coral> heh
[03:19] <coral> ubotu++
[03:20] <LinuxJones> yahalom, you can check by typing sudo hdparm /dev/hdc (usually)
[03:20] <othernoob> wrong LinuxJones
[03:20] <coral> what's the proper way to request an ubuntu package, knowing that it may be ignored at will?
[03:20] <gyaresu> coral, what do you mean?
[03:20] <othernoob> LinuxJones: it's sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdX to check
[03:21] <yahalom> LinuxJones, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom?
[03:21] <jl> how do i make a command run when i boot?
[03:21] <coral> well
[03:21] <othernoob> yahalom: -d1 will enable DMA.. but not cdrom
[03:21] <gyaresu> othernoob,  nah. LinuxJones is right... :)
[03:21] <coral> i would be a very bad maintainer if i were to do it, and i don't have any experience with ubuntu's package format
[03:22] <yahalom> othernoob, i'm scared to mess with it, cos last time i did my gnome ended up takign 3 minutes to log in.
[03:22] <gyaresu> othernoob, -d1 will enable dma on optical
[03:22] <LinuxJones> yahalom, nope your /dev/hdc (depending on which ide controller your dvd drive is connected to)\
[03:22] <DAWKIRST> Hi.
[03:22] <coral> so i guess i'm curious where most people post ideas for new packages
[03:22] <DAWKIRST> How can I add a printer in OpenOffice?
[03:22] <othernoob> yahalom instead of cdrom it has to be hdX ..X being c for example if your cddrive is hdc
[03:22] <yahalom> LinuxJones, i think its hdb and dma is on
[03:22] <gyaresu> coral, debian-builder
[03:23] <othernoob> gyaresu: you're right. -v isn't needed..interesting
[03:23] <gyaresu> coral, you build them. you don't ask people to build them. :)
[03:23] <bassembg> hi room
[03:23] <yahalom> LinuxJones, sorry
[03:23] <DAWKIRST> How can I add a printer in OpenOffice?
[03:23] <gyaresu> bassembg, hi
[03:23] <yahalom> LinuxJones, its hda and dma is off
[03:23] <yahalom> LinuxJones, so thats the reason its choppy?
[03:23] <LinuxJones> yahalom, you can type mount to see which controller it's connected to ie ... /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=willy)
[03:23] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, sys >> admin >> printing
[03:24] <bassembg> i've down load xine but i don't know how to install it
[03:24] <bassembg> any help
[03:24] <gyaresu> yahalom, yes to the choppy.
[03:24] <LinuxJones> yahalom, yes probably, but it's rather unusual to have a cd/dvd drive connected to hda
[03:24] <DAWKIRST> gyaresu, I have added the printer to my PC. But it's not there in OpenOffice...
[03:24] <gyaresu> bassembg, why have you donwnloaded xine and not apt-get'd
[03:24] <yahalom> LinuxJones, hdb is the hard drive. i connected it as slave.
[03:25] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, rebooted?
[03:25] <yahalom> LinuxJones, so how would i enable it? sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[03:25] <Winux> hm, it seems to work now
[03:25] <bassembg> well i search fro free avi player software and this what i found
[03:25] <DAWKIRST> gyaresu, you mean the PC?
[03:25] <LinuxJones> yahalom, hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hda
[03:25] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, aye.
[03:25] <gyaresu> LinuxJones, -c1 -d1
[03:25] <gyaresu> LinuxJones, no gap.
[03:26] <gyaresu> LinuxJones, as i seem to remember...
[03:26] <LinuxJones> gyaresu, the gaps work :)
[03:26] <gyaresu> LinuxJones, coo.
[03:26] <bassembg> so how can i install it
[03:26] <gyaresu> LinuxJones, might be in the hdparm.conf file then...
[03:26] <LinuxJones> gyaresu, yes
[03:26] <gyaresu> bassembg, why aren't you using apt-get?
[03:26] <other|study> LinuxJones: why -c1?
[03:27] <gyaresu> bassembg, just wanna know where you're at...
[03:27] <bassembg> i don't know it
[03:27] <gyaresu> bassembg, synaptic?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> other|study, -c enables 32 bit mode
[03:27] <LinuxJones> other|study, it's usually on but sometimes it is set to 16 bit mode
[03:27] <gyaresu> bassembg, linux experience between 1 && 10?
[03:27] <bassembg> well i want an avi player
[03:28] <bassembg> well i thing 3
[03:28] <bassembg> think 3
[03:28] <gyaresu> bassembg, have you enabled extra sources? in your sources.list?
[03:28] <yahalom> LinuxJones, can i paste my output to u somehow so u can tell me if its on now?
[03:28] <bassembg> i don't know , how i do that?
[03:29] <gyaresu> bassembg, (don't tell anyone i told you so but ubuntuguide.org is a good quick and easy list. with no explanations though)
[03:29] <yahalom> whats the pastebin channel?
[03:29] <other|study> LinuxJones: i know. but why not -c3?
[03:29] <LinuxJones> yahalom, put it on www.pastebin.ca and post the link in here
[03:29] <gyaresu> paste.ubuntu.nl
[03:29] <gyaresu> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:29] <gyaresu> sorry
[03:29] <heatxsink> ls
[03:29] <LinuxJones> other|study, I don't know what -3 means
[03:29] <yahalom> LinuxJones, http://pastebin.ca/17909
[03:30] <LinuxJones> yahalom, perfect :)
[03:30] <yahalom> LinuxJones, so now that should sort out the choppiness? or is there more i need to do?
[03:30] <yahalom> LinuxJones, could it be the kernel?
[03:31] <LinuxJones> yahalom, that should be it try playing your movie now
[03:31] <coral> gyaresu: that viewpoint excludes participation in package selection by all who are unable to create packages, which seems sort of not the best
[03:31] <LinuxJones> yahalom, nah
[03:31] <coral> given that it's common i wasn't expecting any success with my hunt
[03:31] <gyaresu> coral, yes. pay money. canonical did :)
[03:32] <coral> okay. i want one package - how much does it cost?
[03:32] <yahalom> LinuxJones, thanx
[03:32] <gyaresu> coral, interesting question. i work for 110/hr
[03:32] <LinuxJones> other|study, it probably doesn't matter but It's an old habit that I have picked up over the years :D
[03:32] <gyaresu> coral, AU$
[03:32] <LinuxJones> yahalom, :)
[03:33] <gyaresu> coral, but i only work on things that interest me :)
[03:33] <other|study> LinuxJones: i just tried to do it on my dvd drive but..eh..i don't think it's working
[03:33] <gyaresu> coral, point is that this damn linux relies on good faith and hobbies.
[03:33] <DAWKIRST> If I enable 'Detect LAN printer' under printing, what exactly do I gain through this?
[03:33] <coral> bamboo-dht exists because of someone's hobby, and so does Net::OpenDHT
[03:34] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, do you have printers on network printers?
[03:34] <coral> so i could talk to them instead
[03:34] <coral> more focused, more chance of care
[03:34] <LinuxJones> other|study, you have the correct /dev entry for your dvd drive ?
[03:34] <coral> cool
[03:34] <gyaresu> coral, what are you after FMI
[03:34] <other|study> LinuxJones: of course. ignore my nickname ;)
[03:34] <albera> hi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 did an update and when i restarted the icons on gnome-panel is gone. any ide what i should do?
[03:35] <DAWKIRST> I have a local printer (which I couldn't get working); and I have a printer on the network as well (which I'm trying to get to work...)
[03:35] <sebastian> coral, What is it you need?
[03:35] <LinuxJones> other|study, heh
[03:35] <DAWKIRST> gyaresu, I have a local printer (which I couldn't get working); and I have a printer on the network as well (which I'm trying to get to work...)
[03:35] <other|study> LinuxJones: eh sorry, my usual name is othernoob :p
[03:35] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, then you may want to Detect LAN printer
[03:35] <coral> i'm curious to play around with bamboo-dht and finding that it doesn't exist at all anywhere on the web in conjunction with the word 'ubuntu', and isn't in the debian package dawell
[03:35] <other|study> LinuxJones: it just does nothing after being asked for the password
[03:36] <coral> smash
[03:36] <gyaresu> DAWKIRST, i don't know exactly the machinations however.
[03:36] <DAWKIRST> gyaresu, ty.
[03:36] <other|study> LinuxJones: neither can i access it with a simple sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdd
[03:36] <coral> it seems odd that i'd be the first person looking for it
[03:36] <coral> but maybe that's not odd
[03:36] <coral> probably not true though
[03:37] <LinuxJones> other|study, you have a dick in the drive ?
[03:37] <LinuxJones> other|study, arch disk
[03:37] <other|study> LinuxJones: no i don't have my dick in the drive :p and no, no disk..
[03:37] <Winux> Okay, it works. Thanks
[03:37] <gyaresu> coral, Distibuted Hash Table?
[03:38] <coral> nod. neat stuff.
[03:38] <LinuxJones> other|study, that's odd
[03:39] <other|study> indeed
[03:39] <gyaresu> coral, so why can't you just compile from source?
[03:39] <gyaresu> coral, and they have a mailing list.
[03:40] <coral> i, er, already did.
[03:40] <albera> hi, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 did an update and when i restarted the icons on gnome-panel is gone. any ide what i should do?
[03:40] <sebastian> coral, It looks like made for developers? Why would you make a deb out of that?
[03:41] <Pie-maker> anyone have experience with scim in kde?
[03:41] <gyaresu> albera, sorry dont' know.
[03:41] <coral> sebastian: it's a distributed hash table database server
[03:41] <gyaresu> Pie-maker, tried #kubuntu ?
[03:41] <DAWKIRST> albera, is the bottom bar still there?
[03:41] <coral> 20 byte keys, 1024 byte values, multiple values allowed per key, ttl expiry per value.
[03:42] <coral> anyways, i was just asking if anyone had heard of a package for it
[03:42] <coral> didn't mean to fire off the "you don't need a package to use it" thread, sorry
[03:43] <bob2> you could package it yourself
[03:43] <bob2> or ask someone else to do it by filing a RFP (request for package) bug in Debian
[03:43] <gyaresu> coral, there's a sensible answer.
[03:44] <coral> mm, okay
[03:44] <coral> oh, the debian bugtracker. heh.
[03:44] <bob2> one day all bug trackers will be as useful as debian's
[03:44] <bob2> hopefully
[03:44] <coral> didn't occur to me to check both.  neat.  thanks!
[03:45] <bigfoot1> hello. one way I use my computer is to record my journal/diary. Is there a good enough voice-recognition program out there for us folks?
[03:45] <gyaresu> k well #kubuntu is DEAD
[03:45] <bob2> IBM has a commercial one, which I think works on linux
[03:45] <bob2> but it'd be expensive
[03:46] <gyaresu> i just checked in on the channel because i sent a KDE guy in there and there is NO traffic.
[03:46] <bigfoot1> bob2, i'm looking for a free one. 8-). is there a free voice-recognition program for ubuntu?
[03:46] <bob2> I doubt it, it seems to be one of the hardest fields of software
[03:47] <bob2> there's sphinx2-bin
[03:47] <coral> nearly 4000 wnpp bugs
[03:47] <coral> festival, to read the diary back to you for proofreading
[03:48] <bob2> coral: yup, it turns out there's lots of software no one cares about
[03:48] <coral> (festival is just a text-to-speech tool)
[03:48] <coral> bob2: if my software was listed here and i knew it i'd find someone who knew debian to get me set up and going
[03:48] <coral> the trick seems to be finding it
[03:50] <coral> i've actually had to make a list of them all for work
[03:50] <bob2> you could do it yourself
[03:50] <coral> "who to tell when you release a critical update for popular open source software"
[03:50] <bob2> you tell freshmeat and your distribution packagers
[03:51] <bob2> if it's a security fix, you email vendorsec
[03:51] <dylan_> how do i tell kde to set an application default?
[03:51] <coral> vendorsec is a list or a per-vendor thing?
[03:52] <bob2> it's the private list where linux distributors fix security bugs before they're publically announced
[03:52] <coral> ah, ok. thanks.
[03:52] <dylan_> is there a default applications setting in kde?
[03:55] <ashok> folks, i am unable to play wmv files, even after installing w32codec. please guide me
[03:55] <bob2> define "unable to play"
[03:55] <bob2> not every random program will use windows dlls
[03:56] <ashok> its says demuxer not found
[03:57] <dj28> a while ago, i know that w32codecs did not support wmp11 content
[03:57] <dj28> don't know if that's the problem though
[03:57] <bob2> ashok: so, what program are you trying to use?
[03:57] <ashok> gxine
[04:00] <renedox_> wow, there's a lot of people here
[04:00] <yahalom> how can i graphically log in to another ubuntu box?
[04:00] <bob2> depends what you mean
[04:00] <cyphase> hey everyone
[04:00] <renedox_> hello
[04:00] <yahalom> i tried loggin in through xdmcp but that is really slow
[04:00] <ashok> do anyone has an answer for my problem ?
[04:00] <bob2> if you mean "How do I run graphical programs emotely?", then use 'ssh -X user@remotehost programname'
[04:01] <bob2> ashok: does mplayer work?
[04:01] <yahalom> bob2, if i add the x i can run the other boxes apps on my comp?
[04:01] <bob2> yahalom: of course
[04:01] <yahalom> bob2, nice. thanx man
[04:01] <ashok> bob i have totem, xmms and gxine
[04:02] <bob2> ashok: totem and xmms wont work.  try mplayer.
[04:04] <ashok> oki bob give me few mins i shall install mplayer and let u know
[04:06] <kbrooks> nalioth!
[04:06] <kbrooks> nalioth, working?
[04:07] <nalioth> not yet
[04:07] <kbrooks> oh. you're in a different time zone
[04:07] <ctp6360> I LOVE ubuntu, its the best linux distro i've ever used out of about 10!
[04:07] <egginmilk> ...
[04:07] <ctp6360> and that's all i have to say about that ;)
[04:10] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[04:12] <hybrid_goth> anyone know of a cli tool i can use to view and edit wiki's?
[04:13] <ashok> bob, it doesnt play still
[04:14] <ashok> someone pls help. i am unable to play wmv files in mplayer.
[04:14] <Riddell> hybrid_goth: w3m
[04:14] <bob2> I think that's unlikely
[04:15] <bob2> perhaps this one particular file can't be played
[04:15] <hybrid_goth> Riddell: it works on wiki's? ok ty
[04:16] <apollo2011> I I have Ubuntu on my laptop and I popped it out of the base statiion without shutting down and it froze and so I cut power with the power button and now when I boot, it says the reiserfs partition is NOT clean and seems to stop botting at the Loading modules section
[04:16] <ashok> is there any other player which will solve ?
[04:16] <apollo2011> Is there anything I can do or do I just have to reinstall, the system is pretty new so it wouldnt be too hard to set up everything
[04:17] <hybrid_goth> bob2: how is it going
[04:19] <GNULinuxGeek> Hello all.  Sorry for the dumb question but, can someone tell me what program to run to check or change my xorg conf?
[04:19] <kbrooks> GNULinuxGeek, *checks*
[04:19] <kbrooks> GNULinuxGeek, hoary or warty?
[04:19] <GNULinuxGeek> Hoary
[04:20] <dylan_> the KSysGuard tells me that I only have 900KB of memory left, but i have 1GB of  RAM and nothing is running.  what is going on?
[04:20] <ctp6360> you have too much porn on your computer, delete it and problem will go
[04:20] <dylan_> no, be serious
[04:20] <dylan_> im worried
[04:20] <ctp6360> i am serious
[04:20] <jag3370> is there such a thing as too much porn?
[04:20] <dylan_> i dont watch porn
[04:20] <ctp6360> i would be worried too, does your mother know?
[04:20] <bob2> dylan_: ignore it
[04:20] <bob2> hybrid_goth: good thanks, yourself?
[04:20] <ctp6360> gay porn counts too dylan_
[04:20] <bob2> GNULinuxGeek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <hybrid_goth> GNULinuxGeek: i remember dpkg-reconfigure <x name> usually works
[04:21] <bob2> porn seems pretty off-topic, guys
[04:21] <hybrid_goth> bob2: good.
[04:21] <bob2> dylan_: the kernel is using the rest of your ram as disk cache, which is a good thing.  if applications need it, it will be freed for them.
[04:21] <dylan_> oh thanks....and can i completely remove GNOME, or is that a bad idea
[04:22] <hybrid_goth> bob2: do you know of a package that more or less holds your hand through kernel recompiling? so that i can add wardriving to this PPC Kernel
[04:22] <GNULinuxGeek> bob2 and hybrid-goth... Thanks, that will do it.  I will not forget again.  Cheers
[04:22] <kbrooks> dylan_, um, you can.
[04:22] <bob2> hybrid_goth: "wardriving" (I assume you mean scanning) doesn't require a kernel recompile
[04:22] <nalioth> bob2 troll swarms, pR0n infestations, "bob2 fan club members", #ubuntu is pretty exciting this weekend
[04:22] <bob2> unless you have an orinoco card and it needs an extra patch
[04:23] <kbrooks> dylan_, just remove the deps of (k)ubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <hybrid_goth> bob2: on PPC you do
[04:23] <dylan_> deps?
[04:23] <kbrooks> depencies
[04:23] <dylan_> oh....can i do that via kynaptic or synaptic?
[04:23] <bob2> hybrid_goth: you have a specific card whose driver requires a specific patch to enable scanning?
[04:24] <hybrid_goth> bob2: i installed kismet and airsnort and neither works and i have seen debian pages on recompiling
[04:24] <hybrid_goth> bob2: i have the apple airport card
[04:24] <dylan_> g2g thanks!
[04:24] <hybrid_goth> bob2: the wireless works but the scaning doesnt
[04:25] <crashd> gday all
[04:25] <hybrid_goth> crashd: hello
[04:25] <LinuxJones> crashd, welcome
[04:25] <crashd> how are we all on this wonderful day :] 
[04:25] <bob2> wow, the wardriving sites are really annoying
[04:25] <hybrid_goth> bob2: lol
[04:26] <ashok> guys.. i downloaded certain software thru synaptics package manager. i want to take a backup of those deb files. where can i find them ?
[04:26] <bob2> hybrid_goth: get the kernel source (apt-get install kernel-source-blah), copy /boot/config-yourkernel to .config in the kernel source
[04:26] <bob2> hybrid_goth: apply the patch
[04:26] <bob2> ashok: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:26] <jag3370> <----linux noob - just installed ubuntu a week ago --- finally got sound working in gnome -- how do i get sound available for all other users?
[04:26] <hybrid_goth> bob2: ok ty
[04:26] <bob2> hybrid_goth: then run 'make-kpkg --initrd
[04:27] <ashok> is the the only dir bob ?
[04:27] <hybrid_goth> bob2: thanks
[04:27] <ashok> i see that there are only few files in it, but i have downladed lots in the past week
[04:27] <hybrid_goth> brb
[04:27] <heatxsink> hello all has anyone gotten their Firewire Port working in Hoary with their Audigy 2zs LiveDrive?
[04:27] <bob2> ashok: yes
[04:32] <overlade> hi all :)
[04:33] <heatxsink> hello all has anyone gotten their Firewire Port working in Hoary with their Audigy 2zs LiveDrive?
[04:33] <overlade> i don't speak english and i dont understand nothing about ubuntu :p
[04:33] <overlade> im in a big ****
[04:34] <LinuxJones> overlade, what language do you speak ?
[04:35] <overlade> i speak french , and spanish , but i have a lots of problem with english :)
[04:35] <MajorNewby> looking for some help/direction to get TS2 working with games like Quake3 and Cod, etc... anyone know how to make this work??
[04:35] <nalioth> overlade: then try #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <overlade> and you LInux Jones ?
[04:35] <LinuxJones> overlade, there is always #ubuntu-fr and #ubuntu-es if it's easier for you.
[04:35] <icaro> hi guys
[04:35] <LinuxJones> icaro, hello
[04:35] <overlade> ah ok thanks :):)
[04:35] <icaro> anyone knows a video editor that supports also divx, mpegs etc. ?
[04:36] <icaro> hi LinuxJones :)
[04:36] <LinuxJones> icaro, video editing is one of the areas where Linux is sorely lacking at the moment :(
[04:36] <icaro> :(
[04:36] <icaro> i've to use virtualdub on windows :(
[04:36] <hybrid_goth> back
[04:36] <icaro> thx LinuxJones :)
[04:37] <ValheruLord> hi all ..  I have Zoom 5510 usb adsl modem... Some people told me o install eagleUSB and i did. Are there any other things to do in order to start the adsl service
[04:38] <LinuxJones> icaro, there are some really cool apps in development right now but will be a few years until they are really usefull
[04:38] <icaro> what programs?
[04:39] <overlade> hi , am i in the french server ubuntu ?
[04:39] <LinuxJones> icaro, Jashaka kdenLive to name a few. Jashaks looks like it will be awesome :)
[04:39] <overlade> aaaaa
[04:39] <ValheruLord> hi all ..  I have Zoom 5510 usb adsl modem... Some people told me o install eagleUSB and i did. Are there any other things to do in order to start the adsl service
[04:39] <icaro> :D
[04:39] <overlade> no i dont understand , can you explain me linux jones plz :(
[04:39] <icaro> ok
[04:39] <icaro> i will search something about that
[04:39] <icaro> thanks :)
[04:39] <overlade> im a noob in irc , linux , all of that
[04:39] <nalioth> overlade: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:40] <overlade> ok :) thks
[04:40] <MajorNewby> looking for some help/direction to get TS2 working with games like Quake3 and Cod, etc... anyone know how to make this work??  :(
[04:40] <trance> hmmm does anyone know if its possible to run dcgui on the live version of ubuntu?
[04:40] <LinuxJones> MajorNewby, what is TS2 ?
[04:41] <moparfan90> hello all
[04:41] <overlade> teamspeak no ?
[04:41] <MajorNewby> TeamSpeak2
[04:41] <nalioth> trance: sure, just apt-get it
[04:41] <LinuxJones> MajorNewby, ohhh
[04:41] <nalioth> trance: and have write permissions on you storage
[04:41] <MajorNewby> doesn't like sharing sound daemon, I guess
[04:41] <moparfan90> i need a program thats like photoshot... for linux is there such a thing?
[04:41] <trance> yeah but im using the Live version, so I cant write to anything :S
[04:41] <lsuactiafner> gimp
[04:41] <trance> just have temp space
[04:41] <hybrid_goth> moparfan90: gimp or gimpshop
[04:41] <moparfan90> oo
[04:41] <moparfan90> ok
[04:41] <sebastian> Gimpshop?
[04:42] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: it is a hack to make gimp look like photoshop
[04:43] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, How good of a hack, will it have the same icons and windows behaviour too?
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> sebastian : gim
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> p
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> oh
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> just use gimp dude
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> gimp is way better than photoshops
[04:44] <lsuactiafner> photoshop should be trying to look like gimp
[04:44] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: use "gimpshop"
[04:44] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: idk never used it try plasticbugs.com for more
[04:44] <bigfoot1> hello. does anybody here do even a bit of desktop publishing, or has an eye for good design and layout?
[04:44] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: dont you just love it when people just drop in and give advice out of the blue?
[04:44] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[04:45] <sebastian> lsuactiafner, I prefer Photoshop, I consider Gimps GUI both bad and ugly.
[04:45] <nalioth> sebastian: so use gimpshop (at least look at it)
[04:45] <jag3370> <----linux noob - just installed ubuntu a week ago --- finally got sound working in gnome -- how do i get sound available for all other users?
[04:45] <lsuactiafner> i do the same, when i switch consoles and pass over this one i usually stay here a bit
[04:45] <^thehatsrule^> DONT DO DRUGS.
[04:45] <moparfan90> ok thanks i have that already :)
[04:45] <^thehatsrule^> lol, no one got my joke :/
[04:46] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: buy 10,000 FIBCX SELL SELL SELL
[04:46] <nalioth> heh heh
[04:46] <bigfoot1> I'm working on a one-page handout containing "Useful Japanese Phrases". Can anyone look at it and give any advice regarding layout and design, please? 8-) 8-) 8-)
[04:46] <^thehatsrule^> O.o
[04:46] <bigfoot1> Because I don't have a good eye, I mean, I don't know how to make it beautiful. But I know beauty when i see it.
[04:46] <^thehatsrule^> ill take a look bigfoot1 but dont count me on being a professional :P
[04:47] <trance> useful japanese phrases? like where is the bar?
[04:47] <bigfoot1> trance, what bar?
[04:47] <trance> it was a joke....
[04:47] <^thehatsrule^> drinking bar lol
[04:47] <bigfoot1> ^thehatsrule^, okay. please stand by. Is there a place I can paste a openoffice file on the internet?
[04:47] <^thehatsrule^> you can email it i suppose
[04:48] <anto9us> bigfoot1: I'll look at it
[04:48] <sebastian> bigfoot1, Move things around randomly until it looks good... ;)
[04:48] <sebastian> bigfoot1,  Why not use scribus instead? Probably a better choiuce.
[04:48] <^thehatsrule^> well i can host it i guess for others to see?
[04:48] <bigfoot1> trance, oh. I'm in Japan and will be presenting a national workshop in Tokyo to this year's new/incoming participants in the JET Programme.
[04:48] <^thehatsrule^> cool
[04:48] <Schonhose> hi all, does anybody have a clue how I can print between two ubuntu setups? (Desktop and Laptop)
[04:49] <bigfoot1> sebastian, scribus? all right. let me see if i can apt-get it.
[04:49] <trance> ok im really noob to linux, like you couldnt get more new. i want to connect to dc++, ive got valknut/dcgui now how do i run it?
[04:49] <bigfoot1> anto9us, okay. How can i show you this openoffice sxw (?) flie ?
[04:49] <trance> nalioth said i just apt-get it? what is this apt-get and what would an example cmd line be :)
[04:49] <bigfoot1> is there a "pastebin" for openoffice files ?
[04:49] <anto9us> dcc file transfer
[04:49] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, you can post it on pastebin.ca
[04:50] <Schonhose> The Desktop has a Lexmark Z11 installed by using CUPS and it does work actually. How can I print from my laptop using a ethernet connection?
[04:50] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones, but putting it at pastebin.ca will lose all formatting, won't it?
[04:50] <[2] BoxingFiend> Schonhose: System -> Admin -> Printing, choose UNIX (lpd) connection
[04:50] <trance> anyone? >.<
[04:51] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones, oh wait, i think i see the "upload a file" button.
[04:51] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[04:51] <^thehatsrule^> nice
[04:52] <Schonhose> ok, what is this DCC chat thing?
[04:52] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, :)
[04:52] <^thehatsrule^> its a direct connection chat to another user Schonhose
[04:52] <anto9us> Schonhose: it connects 2 clients without going through the IRC servers
[04:52] <LinuxJones> Schonhose, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[04:52] <trance> DCC is a direct connection, only do it if u think its safe :p
[04:53] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones, oh, but wait, again. this upload will turn files into plaintext!
[04:53] <trance> does anyone know how to get Valknut/DCGUI running on Ubuntu Live? :)
[04:53] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1, oh yeah
[04:54] <bigfoot1> i'll try putting the files onto my blogspot website.
[04:54] <sebastian> I can't get extensions to Firefox!
[04:54] <Schonhose> thanks ^thehatsrule^ , anto9us  and LinuxJones ;)
[04:55] <LinuxJones> Schonhose, :)
[04:56] <[2] BoxingFiend> sebastian:  follow the link on extention site the load, and follow the link to the ubuntu bugs, read upon bug report #3 for the fix
[04:58] <sebastian> Didn't help
[04:58] <^thehatsrule^> bigfoot1: pm
[04:59] <sebastian> Is it possible to upgrade to the latest version of firefox?
[04:59] <[2] BoxingFiend> sebastian: what version are you using now
[04:59] <trance> apparently 1.0.5 isnt such a good version?
[04:59] <Servo888> Why are there no libxvidcore's available?
[04:59] <kokoko1> hi
[05:00] <sebastian> The latest Ubuntu offers by default.
[05:00] <trance> does anyone know how to get Valknut/DCGUI running on Ubuntu Live? :)
[05:00] <hybrid_goth>  sebastian 1.0.6 can be tested now from the mozilla site
[05:00] <nixerx> Hey all!
[05:00] <kokoko1> do ubuntu default install come with kde?
[05:00] <LinuxJones> kokoko1, you can install kubuntu
[05:00] <bigfoot1> ^thehatsrule^, pm for you
[05:01] <nixerx> What is the status for SATA and ubuntu?
[05:01] <Schonhose> kokoko1, KDE is Kubuntu and GNome is Ubuntu
[05:01] <sebastian> But I don't get why they backport stuff, Firefox don't do drastical chnages for x.x.* changes that's the whole point with them.
[05:01] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: when the release is final it gets no new packages
[05:02] <bigfoot1> anto9us, my one page is available in PDF or SXW (open office) formats at http://hats.would.like2.servebeer.com/upl/uploads/.
[05:02] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: hoary is final. but backports let you get some newer things
[05:02] <bigfoot1> If anyone would like to give any tips/advice, or even make changes to the document directly, please feel free to do so!
[05:02] <bigfoot1> correction: if anyone _else_...
[05:02] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: but developement gets most the newest packages thats why breezy has a X bug
[05:02] <kokoko1> Schonhose, LinuxJones aren't kubuntu == ubuntu ?
[05:03] <leroj> i though kubuntu was ubuntu with KDE
[05:03] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: kubuntu ~= ubuntu
[05:03] <kokoko1> hmm
[05:03] <^thehatsrule^> bigfoot1: will this be in black/white?
[05:03] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: the difference is KDE and Gnome
[05:03] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, Hmm, can't you just get the latest stable pakage of every software?
[05:03] <sebastian> Oh, btw why is Firefox  in Ubuntu so slow on loading a site the first time. Much slower than Firefox in Windows.
[05:03] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, IMHO kubuntu is offical ?
[05:04] <sJaM> kubuntu = ubuntu - gnome + kde
[05:04] <leroj> i like Gnome better than KDE
[05:04] <bigfoot1> ^thehatsrule^, it will be printed from a laser printer, so i think it will be black and white and shades of grey.
[05:04] <ctp6360> i don't know why people like KDE so much, gnome is where its at
[05:04] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: it is Ubuntu company yes but it isnt ubuntu distro
[05:04] <nixerx> Kubuntu is good ... but im betting the next release will be better.
[05:04] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: yes you get stable packages or whatever packages worked when the released was issued
[05:04] <sJaM> ctp6360, I don't know why people like windows so much
[05:04] <anto9us> bigfoot1: double click Greetings, press ctrl-f11 and select heading 1
[05:05] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, Isn't Firefox 1.0.4 stable?
[05:05] <ctp6360> sJaM: good call, i guess getting people to linux is the first step, then from KDE to gnome
[05:05] <ctp6360> and ultimately just a terminal ha ha
[05:05] <anto9us> bigfoot1: do the same on all the section headings
[05:05] <bigfoot1> anto9us, gotcha.
[05:05] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: if you want ALL the newest packages and can report bugs and go about helping fixing then the developement branch works but if any of those dont imply forget it
[05:06] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: ubuntu edits firefox so the patches in .4 may have been taken care of in .2 ubuntu
[05:06] <bigfoot1> anto9us, do you think I should change the section headings themselves? As in, the word "General" is not a really descriptive heading title, no?
[05:06] <heatxsink> I have a problem with my sound, I can hear the sound at startup and everything, but when I try to play some mp3's from XMMS, xmms crashes when I try and change a song.
[05:06] <heatxsink> any ideas?
[05:06] <Seveas> heatxsink: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> yea you should make the headers stick out more bigfoot1
[05:06] <nixerx> sJaM , Windows is like the crack of OS's. Everyone want's to quit but they just cant seem to kick the habit!
[05:06] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, I don't get it, can't I just have the latest, stable versions of every software? Like I do in Windows or Mac OS X?
[05:07] <Seveas> sebastian, rofl
[05:07] <sJaM> no nixerx some people actually like windows
[05:07] <jag3370> <---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?
[05:07] <anto9us> bigfoot1: I think you should split that group down into more meaningful ones
[05:07] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: this is way different
[05:07] <sJaM> like more than the half of the world
[05:07] <Seveas> sebastian, do tou *really* think that on win/mac you have that..?
[05:07] <nixerx> sJaM ...suckers.
[05:07] <heatxsink> Seveas:  okay so then when I try and play a video in mplayer, mplayer will stall on accessing the alsa mixer stuff
[05:07] <nixerx> :)
[05:07] <Seveas> heatxsink, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[05:07] <sebastian> Hmm, waiut, maybe I can just download it for mozilla.org?
[05:07] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: you have what WORKED when it was released not what is "stable" and stable is not the way to be b/c stable to us is diff the debian stable
[05:08] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: if you get it from mozilla then it may not be the best when you upgrade
[05:08] <kbrooks> hmm
[05:08] <Seveas> hybrid_goth, s/may/will/
[05:08] <raven3x7> how do i permanently enable dma?
[05:08] <hybrid_goth> but go ahead if you feel you actually need it
[05:08] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, What I mean by stable is that those realeasing the software consider it appropriate for use.
[05:08] <Seveas> raven3x7, set in it /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:08] <kbrooks> id like to make a wiki page clarifying this.
[05:09] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, what is the issue here?
[05:09] <ashok> heatxsink, did u try esd ?
[05:09] <kbrooks> sebastian, what is the issue here?
[05:09] <anto9us> raven3x7: edit the etc/hdparm.conf
[05:09] <sebastian> hybrid_goth, Well, as it's not possible to get extensions for 1.0.2 I don't have any choice do I?
[05:09] <hybrid_goth> sebastian: ok if it is stable after the release then it would be in the next issue
[05:09] <Seveas> sebastian: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[05:09] <kbrooks> sebastian, You do.
[05:09] <Seveas> sebastian, it's not ubuntus fault that mozilla devs are too damn lazy to support a stable version...
[05:09] <kbrooks> Seveas, this has been mentioned in a factoid
[05:10] <sebastian> Seveas, It didn't help.
[05:10] <kbrooks> !firefox
[05:10] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[05:10] <Seveas> sebastian, you might need to set it to 1.0.5 now
[05:10] <Seveas> since they released another version
[05:10] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: sebastian wants "stable" in hoary e.g. firefox newest version in hoary but he doesnt understand why to use backports and why it isnt in hoary anyway
[05:10] <kevin_> Good Morning Everyone
[05:10] <Seveas> with different bugs
[05:10] <hybrid_goth> 1.0.6 is ready for testing digg.com
[05:10] <Seveas> hybrid_goth, firefox latest != stable
[05:11] <bigfoot1> anto9us, yes, i agree. splitting the "General" group into smaller groups is good.
[05:11] <hybrid_goth> 1.0.6 is ready for testing || check out digg>com
[05:11] <bigfoot1> Perhaps I should remove some phrases which are not really necessary. What prhrases do you think are not basic?
[05:11] <hybrid_goth> Seveas: granted
[05:11] <raven3x7> Seveas is there a way to enable the new configuration without rebooting?
[05:12] <anto9us> bigfoot1: and you've missed out the most important thing of all... sake etiquette ;)
[05:12] <ashok> folks, whenever i hibernate, the system display switches off , but my notebook is still on.
[05:12] <bigfoot1> anto9us, 8-). well etiquette/manners will be taught in another workshop.
[05:13] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: are you in UTC time zone?
[05:13] <sheeparegreat> hey all, whats the name of the part of a theme, after the login screen and before you see the desktop. I want to change it to something plain but im not sure what it is i need to change. any ideas?
[05:13] <sebastian> Is tehre avevn any changes to minorminor releases of firefox other than stuff that should be backported any way?
[05:13] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, EDT is UTC - 4
[05:14] <jag3370> <---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?
[05:14] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, wassup anyway?
[05:14] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: i was tryin to figure how far UTC is from Central time for the meeting this month
[05:14] <trance> anyone know how to compile DCGUI/Valknut in linux?
[05:14] <kbrooks> uh, -5
[05:14] <hybrid_goth> ok ty
[05:14] <kbrooks> 3:00 pm
[05:15] <kbrooks> iirc
[05:15] <heatxsink> cool thanks guys
[05:15] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, is that today ?
[05:15] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, no, next week
[05:15] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, ahh
[05:15] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, 20:00 UTC
[05:15] <anto9us> bigfoot1: well, you've missed out the most important phrase then... Junmai-shu kudasai
[05:15] <kbrooks> in #ubuntu-nun
[05:16] <bigfoot1> anto9us, 8-)
[05:16] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: the agenda said ubuntu-meeting
[05:16] <bddebian> I thought it was in #ubuntu-meeting?
[05:16] <kbrooks> heh
[05:16] <hybrid_goth> lol
[05:16] <bddebian> Is there a #ubuntu-nun?
[05:16] <kbrooks> yes
[05:16] <bddebian> Hmm
[05:16] <kbrooks> new users network
[05:16] <kbrooks> which i'm in
[05:17] <bddebian> Me too but I didn't know we had a channel :-)
[05:17] <kbrooks> there's a #ubuntu-doc too
[05:17] <hybrid_goth> bddebian: yup ubuntu-nun
[05:17] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: what is the doc
[05:17] <kbrooks> for? /topic #ubuntu-doc
[05:18] <bigfoot1> how can i make the handout easier on the eyes?
[05:18] <jag3370> help please
[05:18] <jag3370> help please
[05:18] <jag3370> <---------linux/ubuntu noob --- i finally got sound working completely in root signin --- how do i make this available to all users?
[05:19] <hybrid_goth> jag3370: sudo?
[05:19] <kbrooks> bigfoot1, handout?
[05:19] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, no
[05:19] <ethics> jag3370, add them to the sound group id guess
[05:19] <davidf> jag3370: you probably need to put the others in the audio group
[05:19] <anto9us> bigfoot1: use a sans serif font throughout
[05:19] <davidf> jag3370: "sudo vigr" will get you to the group editor
[05:19] <jag3370> hybrid_goth, ethics ---figure your are talking to a midly intelligent moron --- be specific please
[05:19] <kevin_> I will try to get my sound going today sometime after the rest of my family gets up, enjoying the piece and quiet right now lol
[05:20] <anto9us> bigfoot1: putting the groups into a table with borders may help guide the eye too
[05:20] <hybrid_goth> jag3370: the sudo command lets you have root power for a task try sudo <command> then type the users passwd
[05:21] <^thehatsrule^> yea anto9us, thats what i suggested too
[05:21] <kamstrumental> Synaptic does not have Firefox 1.5?
[05:21] <anto9us> ^thehatsrule^: cool, it has some consensus then :)
[05:22] <^thehatsrule^> :)
[05:22] <hybrid_goth> kamstrumental: no it has what was used when hoary was released
[05:22] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, i have to prepare a presentation displaying windows Vs Linux in action, which distro you would suggest for this purpose ?
[05:22] <sebastian> Hmm, when Firefox 1.1 is out how do I upgrade to that?
[05:22] <bigfoot1> kbrooks, I am wanting to make my one page handout/printout, given to many new internationals in Japan this summer, nice in terms of design and layout. If you have even a bit of an eye in terms of design and layout, i welcome your advice. It is available in PDF or SXW (open office) formats at http://hats.would.like2.servebeer.com/upl/uploads/.
[05:22] <kokoko1> myself I use slackware
[05:23] <bddebian> Lindows? ;-)
[05:23] <jag3370> davidf, i am in vigr --- how do i edit this
[05:23] <kokoko1> someone told me ubuntu kinda cool for this purpose :)
[05:24] <bddebian> Can't you just do "sudo adduser <user> audio" ?
[05:24] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: ubuntu is nice for the fact it is linux but xandros is alot like windows
[05:24] <davidf> bddebian: very probably actually, I always do the vigr, but you're right, that is probably easier
[05:24] <kokoko1> however I'm sure slackware is best for desktop use, with cutting edge softwares
[05:24] <davidf> otherwise, audio:x:29:david is what I have in the audio line on mine
[05:25] <jag3370> lol    looks like adduser did it --- checking now  --- thanks
[05:25] <bigfoot1> anto9us, do you think the paper is suffering from too much info? do you think some phrases shoud be removed?
[05:25] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, actaully we are interested in *free* linux I doubt xandros is not free
[05:25] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: but if you go with slack then you can not display my fav linux thing. package management
[05:25] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: it is free but not like beer
[05:25] <gverig> Can somebody help me understand what what umask (dmask, fmask) is in fstab? How exactly does it work?
[05:25] <bigfoot1> sebastian, i got scribus. Is it just me, or does it not come with a help manual?
[05:26] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: Ubuntu Fedora and Mandrivia are the most _popular_
[05:26] <Hikaru79> When trying to apt-get install jde, it tells me that the bsh dependency can't be installed. Is bsh unavailable completely, or is there some non-free repository I can go to to get it?
[05:26] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, i'm not aruging for slackware, just asking may is "ubuntu" good for this kinda presentations?
[05:26] <sebastian> bigfoot1, Help manuals are only useful when the application designer have failed. ;)
[05:26] <anto9us> bigfoot1: no, I think it could be more comprehensive, reduce the fontsize to 10 points to increase whitespace and drop in some kanji to make it look pretty and be useful when pointing at the chart to Japanese
[05:26] <bigfoot1> sebastian, what's an application designer?
[05:26] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: what are you trying to compare? i.e. installing software ease of use internet set up
[05:26] <kamstrumental> how do i upgrade to firefox 1.05?
[05:26] <sebastian> bigfoot1, I mean GUI designer.
[05:27] <^thehatsrule^> bigfoot1: its like scribus, pagemaker, or adobe's indesign
[05:27] <kamstrumental> i downloaded the install files from the website, but when i run the installer it points to the desktop
[05:27] <hybrid_goth> kamstrumental: download it from mozilla
[05:27] <bigfoot1> anto9us, i thought of not including any kanji because my audience won't know any kanji at all. I assume that they will be total newbies to the Japanese language
[05:27] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, compareing say you have ms office , we have open office you have outlook, we have thunderbird etc
[05:27] <bigfoot1> anto9us, that's why  there is no kanji, and even no hiragana or katakana.
[05:27] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, also easy of install and cool looks and feel
[05:28] <anto9us> bigfoot1: the exposure won't hurt and the kanji can be easily ignored by the unwilling
[05:28] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: so defualt applications? i would go with ubuntu. now if networking is a huge issue SuSe has nice YaST
[05:28] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, installation softwares is not an issue coz they are not authorized to install softwares there own
[05:28] <Schonhose> ok, [2] BoxingFiend was quite helpfull but we were unable to get printing to work form a laptop to a desktop with a printer, both working under Ubuntu
[05:28] <bigfoot1> anto9us, i see what you mean. If they don't want to say the words, they can just show the piece of paper to the Japanese person they are takling to.
[05:29] <anto9us> bigfoot1: yes, I think the layout something like this http://www.aikiweb.com/language/ai_phrases.html
[05:29] <nixerx> exit
[05:29] <nixerx> oops
[05:29] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: comparing like that you have many option. outlook - thundbird evolution even mutt :P ah so no pkg management
[05:29] <bigfoot1> sebastian, i'm still not sure what you mean by GUI designer.
[05:29] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, okay I thinks ubuntu will definity win this presentations :), however I must say kde is much much better then gnome
[05:29] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: what distro will they use?
[05:30] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: i personally love screen
[05:30] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, any free distro, may be ubunto
[05:30] <hybrid_goth> ubunto?
[05:30] <kokoko1> however first I have present linux, to them ,
[05:30] <sebastian> bigfoot1, The person desinging the GUI of the app, A good GUI is self describing.
[05:30] <kokoko1> Ubuntu*
[05:30] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: ah i see
[05:30] <bigfoot1> anto9us, okay. i took a look at that aikido webpage. there are 4 columns there. but i guess we at most need 3 columns for this handout.
[05:31] <bigfoot1> sebastian, i understand.
[05:31] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: i was like wo a ubuntu rip off? :P
[05:31] <hybrid_goth> srry bout thaat
[05:31] <hybrid_goth> *that
[05:31] <anto9us> bigfoot1: yes and you're starting with the English phrase
[05:31] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, heh for me fluxbox is enough ;)
[05:31] <hybrid_goth> lol i like xfce when i startx
[05:31] <bigfoot1> ^thehatsrule^, what do you mean: "its like scribus, pagemaker, or adobe's indesign?" i've never used any Desktop Publising PRogram (DTP) before.
[05:31] <kokoko1> lol, i have xfce too :)
[05:32] <kokoko1> but never use it in ages
[05:32] <bigfoot1> anto9us, So on top of the kanji, do you propose we put furigana?
[05:32] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, i just created a simple site wana look at it ? , links are not yet working
[05:32] <Dr_GonZo> hello
[05:32] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: sure
[05:32] <keltong> hi...my 1st day using ubuntu...
[05:33] <bddebian> Hello Dr_GonZo
[05:33] <^thehatsrule^> those are like to make handouts, designing layouts .. uh..
[05:33] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, www.askarali.info
[05:33] <keltong> and my 1st logon to this channel
[05:33] <Dr_GonZo> I have just one question
[05:33] <kevin_> I am using xfce as well but the only problem I am having is that it doesn't give me a button to get to my programs
[05:33] <^thehatsrule^> lo keltong, good luck to you
[05:33] <Dr_GonZo> is it possible to have google earth on Linux
[05:33] <Dr_GonZo> ????
[05:33] <anto9us> bigfoot1: I shouldn't think so, these are absolute beginners we're talking of, right?
[05:33] <bddebian> keltong: Well welcome
[05:33] <bddebian> Dr_GonZo: Google Earth?
[05:33] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, ever tried openbsd ? ;)
[05:34] <Dr_GonZo> it s google appli to view sattelite map
[05:34] <bigfoot1> anto9us, yes, absolute beginners. No knowledge of japanese is presumed
[05:34] <Dr_GonZo> but it s only for Win :/
[05:34] <[2] BoxingFiend> Dr_GonZo: it requires WinXP so you might be able to with wine, best bet is to use Win4Lin
[05:34] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, you use Links ;) ?
[05:34] <keltong> can i ask if all installation has to be done via the terminal? even those we s/w we d/l from the web?
[05:34] <anto9us> bigfoot1: then they'll be completely lost on them I think
[05:35] <bddebian> keltong: No, you can use synaptic
[05:35] <Dr_GonZo> oki thx
[05:35] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: nice. yup i use links2 for graphics and lynx for text
[05:35] <bigfoot1> but if you think we don't need furigana (how to read the kanji),  and if you think we need kanji, won't this be a bit too much for them? It will just fly over them. OR is the kanji just for showing to whomever they are talking to?
[05:35] <kokoko1> cool sound like slack user ;)
[05:36] <anto9us> bigfoot1: the kanji is there mainly for beautification and when used for pointing
[05:36] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: actually never used slack. the .tgz is kinda scary
[05:36] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: but is compiling common in slack
[05:36] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, give a try to slack, :)
[05:36] <bigfoot1> anto9us, gotcha. I do hope they'll think it's beautiful, like you and i do. I'm just worried they might be a bit intimidated to see "code" they can't (yet) understand.
[05:36] <keltong> bddebian: how to use it for sw i downloaded that is in zip format?
[05:37] <kokoko1> hybrid_goth, nice talken to you , thanks mate
[05:37] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: well if i could find a 7.1 i would run it on my old comp
[05:37] <hybrid_goth> kokoko1: no problem good luck
[05:37] <anto9us> bigfoot1: not if they don't have to depend on it
[05:37] <aghat> hi
[05:38] <jag3370> thanx for help --- sound on in all users   :)
[05:38] <bigfoot1> anto9us, okay. i'll try to follow the layout in that aikido webpage.
[05:39] <djp> anyone have an idea why when i use cdrecord to burn an iso, the resulting cd will only boot in the drive that it was recorded with? if i try to use the cd in my dvd drive, it does not boot and returns a fail message. the command i used to burn the iso was as follows... sudo nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v speed=2 dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -data -pad freeduc-primaire-1.5.iso
[05:39] <bigfoot1> anto9us, i like how that aikido webpage has soft alternating white and light-grey horizontal lines, do you know what i mean?
[05:39] <anto9us> bigfoot1: yes, I often use them on reports from my databases, they do help the eye
[05:39] <bigfoot1> how can i get those soft alternating "lines" (that's not the right word, is it?) into openoffice, i wonder?
[05:40] <Dr_GonZo> [2] BoxingFiend, win4lin is free to download and install?
[05:41] <anto9us> bigfoot1: in a table
[05:42] <Belutz> why i can't find Nvu in synaptic?
[05:43] <djp> Belutz: because it isn't there. you need to download the .deb file from the nvu web site
[05:43] <Belutz> djp: there's no .deb file for Nvu in their website
[05:44] <djp> was when i last visited Belutz, hold on...
[05:44] <Hikaru79> nvu is in backports, I think
[05:44] <[2] BoxingFiend> Dr_GonZo it's $90 but I love it, allow me to run all sort of win only programs i need on my laptop
[05:44] <djp> Belutz: http://cvs.nvu.com/download/nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2
[05:44] <Belutz> in backports? ic... that's why i didn't find it
[05:45] <djp> sorry it was a compressed file
[05:45] <Belutz> djp: i already download the .bz2 file.... now how do i install it?
[05:45] <[2] BoxingFiend> damn google earth is freaky accurate
[05:45] <djp> Belutz: decompress the file
[05:45] <ctp6360> [2] BoxingFiend: is google earth only for USA?
[05:45] <Belutz> djp: already, there's no configure file
[05:46] <Dr_GonZo> thx [2] BoxingFiend for information
[05:46] <keem> need some help now :) my workbars is gone :| how can i get them back ? =)
[05:46] <Dr_GonZo> no it isn't
[05:46] <kbrooks> workbars?
[05:46] <Dr_GonZo> ctp6360,
[05:46] <djp> ok next...
[05:47] <QaDeS> Belutz: bunzip2 -c nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2 | tar xv
[05:47] <djp> Belutz: where have you extracted it to?
[05:47] <Belutz> djp: to /home/belutz/source/nvu-1.0/
[05:47] <keeM> how can i get them back ? ;)
[05:48] <kbrooks> QaDeS, dufde
[05:48] <Alfred1881> hey all i have a lot of mp3 files , how can i encode then in one time to WAVE ?
[05:48] <kbrooks> QaDeS, tar -xjvf
[05:48] <bigfoot1> anto9us, okay, i've converted the phrases into one big table. how do we do the alternating white and light-gray thing?
[05:48] <anto9us> bigfoot1: select alternate rows and change the background colour
[05:49] <bigfoot1> anto9us, yikes!
[05:49] <QaDeS> oh cool, ty kbrooks :)
[05:49] <QaDeS> should read the changelogs sometimes ;)
[05:49] <bigfoot1> anto9us, manually? is there no automatic way? I'm not lazy. it's easy to do, since this is just a one-pager. But what if we are working on large documents?
[05:49] <kbrooks> QaDeS, heh. tar in this caase
[05:51] <djp> anyone have an idea why when i use cdrecord to burn an iso, the resulting cd will only boot in the drive that it was recorded with? if i try to use the cd in my dvd drive, it does not boot and returns a fail message. the command i used to burn the iso was as follows... sudo nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v speed=2 dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -data -pad freeduc-primaire-1.5.iso
[05:53] <bigfoot1> does anybody know how to get the alternating white and light-grey background color in http://www.aikiweb.com/language/ai_phrases.html into a openoffice Writer table ?
[05:54] <Burrito> does anyobdy know hot to get glib package?
[05:55] <anto9us> bigfoot1: I think it may be possible to set up an autoformat, googling may reveal that someone has already have do so
[05:55] <Burrito> i try $sudo apt-get install glib, but it doesn work
[05:55] <anto9us> ^done so
[05:55] <bigfoot1> anto9us, okay. i'll try to google it.
[05:55] <robtaylor_> Burrito: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[05:55] <keeM> how can i get back my workspaces ?
[05:56] <robtaylor_> Burrito: if in doubt apt-cache search is your friend
[05:56] <Burrito> ok
[05:56] <Burrito> tha ks
[05:56] <Burrito> but it said that apt-get install libglib2.0-dev is allready installed
[05:56] <Burrito> what can i do?
[05:57] <HiddenWolf> is it possible to just fire up a terminal and do a few commands as a different user, somehow?
[05:57] <crashd> HiddenWolf: yeah
[05:58] <Burrito> robtaylor_: what can i do?
[05:58] <anubis> why does xmms play loud and clear
[05:58] <crashd> use sudo
[05:58] <anubis> but Totem and rythmbox are whisper queit?
[05:58] <crashd> sudo -u username
[05:58] <keeM> how can i get back my workspaces ? plz can some one help me ? :|
[05:58] <keeM> someone*
[05:58] <robtaylor_> Burrito: what do you want to do?
[05:59] <Burrito> i want to install a plugins for xmms
[05:59] <Burrito> like a lirycs displayer
[05:59] <QaDeS> how do i sync the menus between gnome and kde?
[05:59] <Burrito> and it said that i nedd to get glib 2.2.x
[05:59] <robtaylor_> Burrito: apt-cache search for plugins, then install them with apt-get
[05:59] <Burrito> or something like that
[05:59] <Riddell> QaDeS: how do you mean?
[05:59] <Burrito> no
[05:59] <robtaylor_> Burrito: i wouldnt reccoment building them yourself
[05:59] <Burrito> i allready have the plugin
[06:00] <QaDeS> i installed the kde packages and now my application menu is empty
[06:00] <to|m> aha jetzt hab ich sogar souroundsound m,)
[06:00] <robtaylor_> Burrito: use apt. dont build yourself unless you know waht you're doing
[06:00] <QaDeS> in kde i mean :) gnome's ok i suspect
[06:00] <bigfoot1> anto9us, um, i didn't know what search terms to use to get my answer, so i'll see if version 2 has this feature.
[06:00] <QaDeS> glckwunsch, to|m :)
[06:00] <anubis> I suppose it esd
[06:00] <Ed_Gein> hey
[06:00] <bigfoot1> using command line, how do i know the name of the file for openoffice version 2?
[06:00] <robtaylor_> Burrito: or unless you have no option
[06:00] <anubis> does esd suck that bad?
[06:00] <Ed_Gein> What is a good dvd player?
[06:00] <Burrito> but wait
[06:00] <anubis> and why is xmms able to access the hardware perfectly?
[06:01] <anubis> via chipset
[06:01] <othernoob> Ed_Gein: vlc plays dvds nicely
[06:01] <djp> is it adviseable to have dma enabled for a cd-r/rw drive?
[06:01] <anubis> vlc is great
[06:01] <Ed_Gein> djp: Yes
[06:01] <anubis> so is ogle
[06:01] <HiddenWolf> crashd, I need acces to X for that user, do I have to log out my main user then?
[06:01] <othernoob> djp: yes
[06:01] <crashd> HiddenWolf: yeah
[06:01] <crashd> or
[06:01] <crashd> at least open another xserver
[06:01] <[2] BoxingFiend> ed_: i saw a progressive scan dvd player that do mp3, vcd, divx for about $80 at bestbuy a while back
[06:01] <djp> thanks Ed_Gain and othernoob
[06:01] <othernoob> yw
[06:01] <HiddenWolf> crashd, how do I do that?
[06:01] <Burrito> robtylor_: this is what it said:
[06:01] <Burrito> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[06:02] <Burrito> robtylor_: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[06:02] <crashd> HiddenWolf: im not sure, im not an x user ;) check the ubuntu docs, but i think it's alt-f something
[06:02] <anubis> everybody with problems and no answers?
[06:03] <djp> how do i check if dma is enabled on my cd-r/rw? also how do i enable it if i need to?
[06:03] <robtaylor_> Burrito: i'm not going to help you build stuff thats installable from the archive
[06:03] <codecaine> hey all
[06:03] <othernoob> djp: sudo hdparm -v /dev/hdX ..X being c for example if your cddrive is hdc
[06:04] <Burrito> why?
[06:04] <codecaine> how do i get firefox and openoffice prelinked, when i run prelink it says "could not find one of the dependencies"
[06:04] <othernoob> djp: to enable sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX  and edit hdparm.conf ..
[06:04] <BorisH> I do have to use de development branch of sane-backends to get my scanner working - what is the proper way to do this in ubuntu?
[06:04] <sebastian> How do I link a dir? I want /mnt/hdb/games to point to /mnt/hdb8/games.
[06:04] <djp> cheers othernoob
[06:04] <othernoob> djp: http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom
[06:05] <sJaM> I thought you coudln't make ubuntuguide links
[06:05] <othernoob> sJaM i don't really care ;)
[06:05] <Mobius> why can't you make ubuntuguide links?
[06:05] <sJaM> I do
[06:06] <othernoob> there is nothing wrong with the guide
[06:06] <sJaM> if you know what you are doing
[06:06] <othernoob> the wiki isn't better
[06:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> the wiki has some explenations on what you're doing
[06:06] <sJaM> yes it is
[06:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> that can't be said of the ubuntuguide
[06:06] <codecaine> anyone know why prelink doesnt work on firefox or openoffice?
[06:07] <othernoob> all the wiki has is some pictures..
[06:07] <Schonhose> I'm still having troubles printing between from one Ubuntu machine to another with a printer installed....
[06:07] <othernoob> but it's basically the same "do that if you want that"
[06:07] <sJaM> not entirely
[06:07] <Bubbling_Zombie> bbiab
[06:07] <sJaM> ubuntuguide only gives 1 possibilty
[06:07] <othernoob> if one really wants to learn one won't rely on neither the guide nor the wiki..
[06:08] <ctp6360> yeah they will rely on trial and error
[06:08] <djp> even better othernoob thanks so much...
[06:08] <zenwhen> othernoob, does one "learn" by hitting random keys until something happens?
[06:08] <ctp6360> rm -rf /
[06:08] <ctp6360> oh yes so that command removes all my files
[06:08] <othernoob> zenwhen, yes.
[06:08] <ctp6360> GOOD FIND
[06:09] <zenwhen> othernoob, thats silly
[06:09] <othernoob> ctp6360: no it'll only remove your / ..not all files
[06:09] <sJaM> ctp6360, you have iit wron
[06:09] <sJaM> sudo rm -rf /
[06:09] <ctp6360> yeah i don't use sudo i don't like it
[06:09] <hybrid_goth> well yall i am out for a while
[06:09] <othernoob> if you really want to fuck the system, then sudo rm -rf * ...heh
[06:09] <sebastian> is it possible to mount one partition on two places?
[06:10] <sJaM> why do you want that sebastian
[06:10] <sJaM> you could make a symbolic link
[06:11] <othernoob> zenwhen it's not silly.
[06:11] <othernoob> zenwhen. the wiki mostly gives graphical solutions..instead of cli solutions.
[06:11] <Schonhose> [2] BoxingFiend, are you still here?
[06:13] <klaym> hey people give me an advice for a good little game to get from apt
[06:13] <othernoob> minesweeper
[06:13] <klaym> well that's simple
[06:13] <othernoob> beneath a steel sky
[06:14] <sebastian>  sJaM I accidently put the wrong path into the ut2004 installer. So I'm trying to trick it inot believing it put files into /mnt/hdb/games/ut2004 while it really put them intoi /mnt/hdb8/games/ut2004
[06:15] <to|m> is there a metapackage to compile sourcefiles?
[06:15] <zenwhen> othernoob, if guides arent provided for users to obtain to basic functionalities that are not included with ubuntu, users will give up.
[06:15] <zenwhen> I learned on Slackware.
[06:15] <zenwhen> Most people dont have the guts to jump head first into the cli.
[06:16] <zenwhen> Or the time.
[06:16] <othernoob> zenwhen: uhm, so what's wrong with the ubuntuguide then? it's basic functionalities
[06:16] <zenwhen> Nothings wrong with either of the resources.
[06:16] <sebastian> No one knows?
[06:16] <zenwhen> they offer different paths to a lot of the same goals.
[06:17] <bof> hi
[06:17] <othernoob> zenwhen: so what was your initial point of addressing me again?
 if one really wants to learn one won't rely on neither the guide nor the wiki..
[06:19] <zenwhen> that statement
[06:19] <othernoob> exactly.
[06:19] <Liudy> Hi,all
[06:19] <Liudy> I want to update my firefox to 1.0.4
[06:19] <zenwhen> So you expect people top type random commands into the cli until something happens?
[06:20] <^thehatsrule^> Liudy: theres 1.0.5
[06:20] <othernoob> no, ever heard of books? ;)
[06:20] <zenwhen> It would take years to learn anything without guidance.
[06:20] <Liudy> apt-cache show firefox tell me the version it find is Version: 1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5
[06:20] <Liudy> But after i use apt-get upgrade firefox
[06:20] <zenwhen> yes, the average user is going to go buy a nice big linux book
[06:21] <Liudy> My firefox is still 1.0.2 without any change
[06:21] <sJaM> sebastian, you can make a symbolic link from a symbolic link
[06:21] <Liudy> Hi thehatsrule
[06:21] <[2] BoxingFiend> i tell my friends when they first try unix to type "man a{tab}{tab}", a couple of command a day and linux is much easier for them
[06:21] <othernoob> the guide at least gives some cli guidance, whereas the wiki is mostly point'n'click
[06:21] <Liudy> Is there 1.0.5 for ubuntu?
[06:21] <QaDeS> is there a way to re-create the gnome/kde menus?
[06:21] <othernoob> zenwhen: does the average usere really want to learn? if yes, then yes, he'll buy a book
[06:21] <sJaM> wiki isn't point'n click
[06:21] <coenraad> how do you install tar files?
[06:21] <sebastian> sJaM, HmmI just reainstalled. Easier I guess.
[06:22] <sJaM> and just copy and past cli lines doesn't improme it
[06:22] <Schonhose> coenraad, you need to extract them first
[06:22] <sJaM> don't know
[06:22] <sJaM> a 'ln -s source dest' is pretty simple
[06:22] <sebastian> sJaM, Will that work for deeper paths?
[06:23] <to|m> is there an option to change workspace if the mouse is at the border of the screen?
[06:23] <sebastian> othernoob, Well, fo basic functionality you shouldn't have to even read the Wiki. It should Just Work.
[06:23] <sJaM> what do you mean with 'deeper'
[06:24] <sebastian> sJaM, I I sombolically link /somepath to /othpath will /somepath/bpath link to /othpath/bpath ?
[06:24] <HiddenWolf> I'm stuck configuring mythtv, any hints?
[06:24] <othernoob> sebastian: and it does. not great. but it does ;)
[06:24] <sJaM> yes
[06:25] <othernoob> sJaM: just look at the howto add repositories on the wiki..point'n'click
[06:25] <Schonhose> Aaargh, this printing problem is driving me nuts... All those references to making a connection windows - linux whereas I'm trying to connect linux-linux.....
[06:25] <sJaM> look at java
[06:26] <ezsquirt> hey, does ubuntu traffic stopped ? latest issue is from feb.
[06:26] <crashd> hmm
[06:26] <crashd> does ubuntu livecd support usb?
[06:27] <Schonhose> crashd, I believe so
[06:27] <crashd> cool :}
[06:27] <crashd> that's exactly what i wanted to hear my good man
[06:27] <Schonhose> yeah, but do note the believe part ;)
[06:27] <crashd> hehe
[06:27] <crashd> ill be able to check once i find a bloody cd-r
[06:27] <sebastian> Would be weird othewise..
[06:28] <crashd> well, yeah
[06:29] <^DodGeR^> howdy all
[06:29] <Schonhose> still no one around who can help me with my printing issues?
[06:29] <slow_> hi there
[06:30] <nalioth> crashd: what sort of usb device?
[06:30] <crashd> mass storage
[06:31] <crashd> all i need to do know is find a bloody cd-r ;\
[06:31] <Schonhose> Ok, now it is official.... I hate printing devices!
[06:31] <nalioth> crashd: fwiw, my firewire burner(s) work well on my iBook/ubuntu
[06:32] <crashd> nalioth: hmm, thanks
[06:32] <crashd> what kernel does the livecd use ?
[06:32] <othernoob> sJaM: lol, the java wiki is funny.. sending people to edit the sources.list without real guidance
[06:33] <westermann> hey, i have basic question. how can i filter with Synaptic? i am used to rpm (urpmi) but i cant find a real filter. if i want to install vlc and i search for it there are no matches
[06:33] <slow_> crashd: i think it is 2.6.10 (the same used in the install cd)
[06:34] <crashd> cool, well im sure i'll be able to bodge usb-msd support if it isnt working properly ;)
[06:34] <klaym> I hate it that Linux people are so damn pacifistic. I'm looking for some mindless shooting game and I get nothing when querying for 'zombies', 'shoot-em-up' gives inter-galactic nonsense
[06:34] <nalioth> westermann: search using "package names and contents" or search for "video"
[06:34] <nalioth> klaym: try "abuse"
[06:35] <Schonhose> nalioth, perhaps you have any knowledge on printing issues?
[06:35] <crashd> klaym: or just run quake ;)
[06:35] <westermann> nalioth, thakns, please wait
[06:35] <klaym> nalioth: I have it. it's ok but what I'm actually looking for is something like 'Phobia' series, Tapan Kaikki or something like that
[06:35] <MajorNewby> Enemy Territory, klaym
[06:35] <klaym> and I'm running a P3 650mhz
[06:36] <nalioth> Schonhose: sorry, many years ago i adopted the philosophy of "printers suck" and now if i need something, i email it to myself and visit my local networked office supply store
[06:36] <nalioth> Schonhose: have you researched "cups"?
[06:36] <othernoob> Schonhose: ever been to linuxprinting.org ?
[06:36] <nalioth> klaym: am unfamiliar with those, try a search for "games" at sourceforge.net
[06:37] <Kenosis> I cannot seem to get DVD playback to work correctly - I installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdnav4 and mplayer locks up before it displays anything, ogle freezes in the first few frames, and I'm wondering if I missed something to help create smooth playback?
[06:37] <nalioth> Kenosis: enabled DMA?
[06:37] <Kenosis> nope
[06:37] <Kenosis> IS there a command to do so?
[06:37] <othernoob> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX
[06:37] <othernoob> X being c if your cddrive is hdc
[06:38] <westermann> well, oke. this works. thanks!
[06:39] <gremid> hello, is the web server  down on archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:39] <kbrooks> no
[06:39] <Schonhose> printing does work from desktop with atached printer. But I would like to print from the laptop by using the one on the desktop
[06:39] <nalioth> gremid: it is having intermittent spasms, try again later
[06:40] <nalioth> Schonhose: so you want to know how to set up a "shared printer"?
[06:40] <gremid> thanks.
[06:40] <Kenosis> NOPE- ogle is still freezing on first few frames...
[06:40] <Kenosis> d'oh!
[06:40] <Schonhose> nalioth, yeah preferable using SMB since the ADSL modem acts as a router with DCHP
[06:40] <westermann> one more question: with rpm i was used to have libxyz and libxyz-dev. here i can only find libavcodec-dev nothing like libavcodec. so sould i take the dev?
[06:41] <othernoob> Kenosis: you may also want to edit your hdparm.conf or your /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to enable DMA on boot..
[06:42] <Kenosis> But regardless of boot it should be enabled right now, but yet no changes to playback?
[06:42] <nalioth> westermann: are your deb-src lines enabled in your sources.list?
[06:42] <Kenosis> /dev/hdc:
[06:42] <Kenosis>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[06:42] <Kenosis>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[06:43] <Kenosis> Are the libdvdcs and libdvdnav the only required packages?
[06:43] <Kenosis> *libdvdcss
[06:43] <Kenosis> ?
[06:44] <sebastian> I get "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy" when trying to start ut2004.
[06:44] <nalioths_dog> Kenosis: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[06:45] <sebastian> What should I do to avoid that?
[06:45] <slow_> seb128: esd is holding the device. try "killall esd" before running ut
[06:45] <slow_> oops
[06:45] <slow_> stupid auto-completition
[06:46] <slow_> sebastian: esd is holding the device. try "killall esd" before running ut
[06:46] <slow_> (now, there we have it)
[06:48] <westermann> *confused* i dont know my root pw... i know. thats a post for the wiki quotes. but by installing ubuntu they never was a dialog for settig it
[06:48] <Schonhose> nalioth, do you know a solution?
[06:48] <Kenosis> libdvdread: Can't stat dvd://
[06:48] <Kenosis> No such file or directory
[06:48] <Kenosis> ERROR[ogle_nav] : faild to open/read the DVD
[06:48] <Kenosis> main: DVDSetDVDRoot: Root not set
[06:48] <Kenosis> Wierd...
[06:48] <davidf> westermann: I think there is no root password set initially
[06:49] <davidf> westermann: loading a console and typing sudo passwd root will set one if you actually need to connect to the root account
[06:49] <sebastian> slow_, Didn't help. :/
[06:49] <nalioths_dog> westermann: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:49] <nibblesmx> i have a really big problem: yesterday i booted my computer and my esd daemon doesn't start!!! i have no sound, and no volume control icon in the system tray, can somebody help me please?
[06:50] <sebastian> BRB, have to restart Linux to use my new Nvidia drivers.
[06:50] <thr1ce> sebastian: no you don't
[06:50] <nalioth> thr1ce: wow they're conditioned well by uncle bill, arent they?
[06:50] <westermann> lol, i can start a root terminal but cant make su in the terminal... strange
[06:50] <_dylan> hi everyone.
[06:50] <thr1ce> nalioth: =] 
[06:51] <_dylan> how do i completely remove gnome if i want to only use KDE?
[06:51] <westermann> davidf, thx
[06:51] <nalioth> westermann: stick with "sudo", it's safer
[06:51] <slow_> nibblesmx: if you try to run "esd" on a terminal, it works?
[06:51] <nibblesmx> yes, but only if i run it as root
[06:51] <nalioth> _dylan: do you have storage space issues?
[06:51] <_dylan> nalioth, no but i like KDE much better
[06:52] <_dylan> dont need toe gnome programs
[06:52] <_dylan> the, not toe
[06:52] <nibblesmx> slow_, and still i cant change the volume, it says that it cant find any devices for it
[06:53] <slow_> nibblesmx: weird. i was checking for permissions here, but it looks like things are working even without "everyone can do anything here" :)
[06:53] <sebastian> Why does xchat spend lots of time " Looking up irc.freenode.net"
[06:53] <slow_> sebastian: dns solving
[06:53] <nalioth> _dylan: then dont use gnome
[06:53] <slow_> sebastian: maybe the dns you are using is a little bit slow...
[06:54] <_dylan> is there a way i can remove gnome tho?
[06:54] <sebastian> slow_, I don't have this problem in Windows.
[06:54] <_scott> Hello everyone!
[06:54] <slow_> _dylan: yes, but it requires a little bit of work
[06:55] <sebastian> I get no sound in ut2004 what to do about that?
[06:55] <nibblesmx> slow_, when i run "esd" as a normal user i get this: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[06:55] <thr1ce> backup home, then reinstall with kubuntu might be easier
[06:55] <slow_> _dylan: you need to hunt them down on synaptic (for example) and remove them
[06:55] <_dylan> right
[06:55] <thr1ce> sebastian: try killall esd && ut2k4
[06:55] <slow_> _dylan: probably removing "glib" and "gtk" would remove most of packages
[06:55] <_dylan> u talking to me, sebastian?
[06:55] <_dylan> killall thing works
[06:55] <_dylan> ?
[06:56] <slow_> _dylan: oh, and gstreamer
[06:56] <nalioth> _dylan: ubuntu requires some gnome things to be there for use, i'd just leave it and not use it
[06:56] <sebastian> "esd: no process killed"
[06:56] <thr1ce> ok; when you run ut2k4 from a terminal, then quit; does it complain about perm issues with sound?
[06:56] <sebastian> _dylan, You can use gnome programs in kde anyway.
[06:56] <_dylan> darn i just removed nautilus...should i reinstall using kubuntu as default? ow do i do that?
[06:56] <slow_> nibblesmx: hm... that's new for me...
[06:57] <nalioth> _dylan: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed/
[06:57] <_dylan> yes, nalioth
[06:57] <sebastian> thr1ce, "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[06:57] <bols> I added the extra repositories but when I try to install sun-j2re1.5, it says that this pkg doesn't exist... what can I do, plz?
[06:57] <nalioth> _dylan: and are you removing things from within kde?
[06:57] <thr1ce> killall esd didn't do it ?
[06:57] <thr1ce> are you running xmms or something?
[06:57] <sebastian> Nope.
[06:58] <_dylan> yes
[06:58] <_dylan> but im thinkin i should just reinstall usin kde as default...but how?
[06:58] <thr1ce> _dylan: download the kubuntu ISO
[06:58] <nickrud> sebastian, try running lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[06:58] <sebastian> _dylan, A better idea would be to have both installed.
[06:58] <nalioth> _dylan: the "default" is what you choose in the login window under "sessions"
[06:58] <nalioth> _dylan: yes i agree, leave gnome alone
[06:59] <sebastian> nickrud, Nothing
[06:59] <_dylan> right but is there a way that i can install only kubuntu on new, fresh install of linux>
[06:59] <nalioth> _dylan: and logout and login, and choose to make kde your default session
[06:59] <thr1ce> _dylan: yes; again, download the kubuntu iso
[06:59] <Di42lo> can i connect using DSL USB Modem with ppp to the internet with ubuntu ?
[06:59] <slow_> sebastian: it looks like permissions, then.
[06:59] <sebastian> Or go System tools>New Login
[06:59] <_dylan> but in the long run, is gnome faster?
[06:59] <thr1ce> hm...
[06:59] <sebastian> slow_, I have to run as root?
[06:59] <thr1ce> sudo chmod 660 /dev/sound/dsp
[06:59] <thr1ce> no
[07:00] <leroj> gnome is cooler
[07:00] <thr1ce> wait
[07:00] <thr1ce> ls -l /dev/sound/dsp
[07:00] <slow_> sebastian: try 'sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp' before running ut
[07:00] <_dylan> but kde looks like ... mac
[07:00] <thr1ce> no
[07:00] <thr1ce> don't 777
[07:00] <_dylan> which is cool enough
[07:00] <slow_> thr1ce: just for testing. :)
[07:00] <thr1ce> sebastian: ls -l /dev/sound/dsp
[07:00] <refuze2looze> anybody know why K3B is burning bad audio discs?
[07:00] <slow_> thr1ce: udev should return to normal permissions after reboot, anyway
[07:00] <sebastian> No such file or directory
[07:00] <nalioth> _dylan: huh? kde leans more towards windows in its default layout
[07:01] <thr1ce> sebastian: huh?  try /dev/dsp
[07:01] <_dylan> the icons are nicer in kde
[07:01] <_dylan> kubuntu, i mean
[07:01] <sebastian> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-07-17 12:11 /dev/dsp
[07:01] <thr1ce> sebastian: hm...try chmod 660 /dev/dsp
[07:01] <thr1ce> sudo*
[07:01] <davidf> sebastian: try sudo addusers [username]  audio
[07:01] <davidf> erm, adduser
[07:02] <_dylan> but my question is, which is faster? KDE or GNOME?
[07:02] <thr1ce> _dylan: what drivers better, ford or chevy?
[07:02] <_dylan> i dont know
[07:02] <othernoob> xfce :p
[07:02] <_dylan> i dont drive
[07:02] <thr1ce> lol
[07:02] <nickrud> heh
[07:03] <thoreauputic> _dylan: why not try both and see whish works better for you?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> *which
[07:03] <sebastian> Still no sound
[07:03] <westermann> welll, thank you. i will now use ubuntu on my laptop - nice OS
[07:03] <nickrud> sebastian, if you did the adduser, you need to log out and back in for it to take effect
[07:03] <sebastian> I get "WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!" in the console, thathave anything to do with it?
[07:04] <sebastian> nickrud, I was allready added
[07:05] <sebastian> How do I test if audio works at all?
[07:05] <thr1ce> sebastian: did you try chmod 660 /dev/dsp ?
[07:05] <sebastian> thr1ce, Yes I've done that
[07:05] <thoreauputic> sebastian: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[07:05] <nalioth> _dylan: if you are after speed, there are xfce4, enlightenment, fluxbox and many other DMs
[07:05] <sebastian> thoreauputic, lol
[07:06] <HappyFool> and the console. super speedy.
[07:06] <nickrud> sebastian, system-pref-multimedia systems
[07:06] <thoreauputic> thr1ce: chmod 660 on  a device is a Bad Move (tm)
[07:06] <thr1ce> thoreauputic: not at all
[07:06] <thr1ce> 660 should work fine
[07:06] <sebastian> bash: system-pref-multimedia: command not found
[07:07] <nickrud> sebastian, from the menu :)
[07:07] <yuki> hi!
[07:07] <davidf> sebastian: have you put yourself in group audio?
[07:07] <westermann> cu
[07:07] <yuki> what was the program to choose, download and install gnome themes ?
[07:07] <sebastian> I found the problem...
[07:08] <sebastian> yuki, Firefox?
[07:08] <sebastian> It thought I wanted to use my internal sound card.
[07:09] <yuki> sebastian, nah, it was a gui program that downloaded previews for the themes and installed them automatically
[07:09] <erirlar> is there a way to get QT apps to use a GTK theme?
[07:09] <sebastian> How do I change the sound card then?
[07:10] <tanki> erirlar, no -- different widgets
[07:11] <slow_> yuki: GNOME Art? (http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=889)
[07:11] <tanki> erirlar, alternatively you could create a qt theme using the properties from the particular gtk theme you like
[07:11] <sebastian> Is it possible to change the default sound card?
[07:12] <slow_> sebastian: the only way I know is hacking .alsa.ctl (or something like that) in your $HOME
[07:12] <slow_> sebastian: never tried, though
[07:12] <erirlar> tanki: well the thing is just i dont want to install kde but i have to use skype, looks like this is going to be a tuffy
[07:12] <adwait> can somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?
[07:13] <sebastian> WTH? There have to be a proper way?
[07:13] <slow_> sebastian: last time I tried, it won and I left the non-onboard card on :)
[07:13] <tanki> erirlar, well kde uses qt but i dont think you need kde to install a qt theme
[07:13] <plb> hey guys anyone wanna tell me what you think of this metacity theme I've been working on called ubuntu sticks...not done but heres a preview http://screenshots.haque.net/screenshots/view/28327/screenshot-28327.jpg
[07:13] <slow_> (oops, other way around)
[07:13] <erirlar> tanki: hmmm, i don't think so ither, lets try
[07:14] <crashd> plb: that's a nice theme dude
[07:14] <nickrud> sebastian, you can add the kernel module for the onboard sound to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:14] <adwait> can somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?
[07:14] <plb> crashd: thanks
[07:14] <crashd> bit girly for me, but meh ;)
[07:14] <sebastian> nickrud, But I can't switch between them like in Windows?
[07:14] <plb> crashd: ah the wallpaper? heh =P
[07:14] <crashd> and the loveheart icon for your $home ;)
[07:14] <yuki> slow_, that was it! thanks a lot :)
[07:15] <adwait> can somebody please help me with setting a cron job? how do i do that?
[07:15] <adwait> :(
[07:15] <plb> crashd: hehe
[07:15] <sebastian> plb, A bit too brown to me.
[07:15] <nickrud> sebastian, yes, there are instructions for controlling card selection on alsa-project.org
[07:15] <slow_> adwait: sure
[07:15] <slow_> adwait: that's what I do:
[07:16] <nickrud> sebastian, it's been a couple of years since I did that, so my memory is too fuzzy to help much more on that ;)
[07:16] <slow_> adwait: I usually create a .crontab on my home, add the command on the time and then 'crontrab .crontab'
[07:17] <slow_> adwait: there is also a 'crontab -e' to edit the crontab, but I don't use it
[07:17] <thr1ce> plb: having trouble connecting
[07:17] <thr1ce> plb: ah, there it goes
[07:17] <plb> sebastian: whats to brown exactly?
[07:18] <plb> I'm just doing the window border
[07:18] <plb> metacity
[07:18] <plb> its not done either =P
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> what a dilema
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> X is broken in breezy
[07:19] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: see that topic when you entered?
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> however, I need kernel 2.6.12 (2.6.10 freezes a lot)
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> installing 2.6.12 from breezy gets a newer glibc
[07:20] <thr1ce> compile it yourself
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> and then hoary can't install ubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  heh.
[07:20] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: ?
[07:20] <thr1ce> seriously...compile a kernel yourself...
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  have you ever used windows ME?
[07:20] <thr1ce> install hoary, install gcc, compile a kernel, reboot
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> ubuntu crashes like that
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> every hour or 2.
[07:21] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: i honestly doubt it's the kernel; what errors have you found in your xorg log ?
[07:21] <thr1ce> i'm sure you've checked...
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> updating the kernel fixed it, but . . even on my amd64, compiling a stock ubuntu kernel takes ~1.5 hours
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  no errors in xorg.log
[07:21] <thr1ce> no, compiling a vanilla kernel takes less than 10 minutes
[07:21] <sebastian> I have no ~/.asoundrc
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> playing music one minute, system freeze the next, alt+prtscrn+O doesn't turn the machine off
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> upgrade kernel, problem solved.
[07:22] <nickrud> sebastian, you create it from scratch
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> Switch back to old kernel, problem relived
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  compiling a kernel I bother to take half an hour to manually select what does and doesn't go into takes 10 minutes
[07:23] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: no, you said "compiling" takes 1.5 hours =P
[07:23] <thr1ce> maybe use the .config from hoary, and change it around a little ?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> beh
[07:24] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: just an option; otherwise, you're going to have to find errors
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> also there's no irssi
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> hence no IRC
[07:24] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: or, download one of the breezy colony discs
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  I got the colony 2 livech
[07:24] <thr1ce> does that work?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> it failed to boot
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> one of the init scripts hickups
[07:25] <thr1ce> hm...strange
[07:25] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: do you have strange hardware or something?  the stock hoary kernel should not fail...
[07:25] <thr1ce> nalioth: just a .config from a 2.6 series
[07:26] <sebastian> Ok, now it works except in ut2004. Doesn't ut04 use alsa?
[07:26] <nalioth> i'm wondering about the handy (i believe debian) tool that takes you step by step
[07:26] <thr1ce> nalioth: ooh, dunno; make menuconfig =] 
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> thr1ce,  Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M motherboard, athlon 64 1800+ newcastle, 1 gig memory, Maxtor SATA drive, SB Audigy Emu10k1 based sound card
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sebastian: try `killall esd ` before running ut
[07:26] <thr1ce> remember i was raised on slackware =O
[07:26] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: are you trying hoary 64 bit?
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> 32 bit
[07:27] <thr1ce> maybe 64 bit will help?
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> I need openoffice 2
[07:27] <nickrud> sebastian, now that you've messed around with asoundrc, try doing the dmix stuff on the alsa site.
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> OOo2 isn't on Hoary64 or Breezy64
[07:29] <thr1ce> bluefoxicy: well, THAT you can get and install yourself
[07:29] <Cappo> hellow, i have a question, i installed ubuntu hoary on my laptop and i always used the touchpad as my mouse, but now i wanted to work with a ps2 mouse, so i inserted my mouse, i though i reboot the system and it will work, but when the ps2 mouse is inserted the machine hangs at starting hotplug subsystem; so my question is how do i configure the ps2 mouse ?
[07:29] <thr1ce> Cappo: set it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:29] <sebastian> Is it possible to enable dns cacheing?
[07:30] <sebastian> nickrud, what is that?
[07:30] <Cappo> ok i"ll open that file and have alook, new to this so probably will have a question what i have to set exactly :)
[07:30] <nickrud> sebastian, a method of letting your sound card accept streams from more than one source
[07:31] <thr1ce> Cappo: there is a mouse section, just change to PS/2
[07:31] <nickrud> sebastian, like, esd and ut2004 simultaneously
[07:31] <Cappo> ah ok :)
[07:31] <Cappo> thanx
[07:32] <nickrud> !sound
[07:32] <ubotu> hmm... sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:35] <Cappo> now there is standing lmPS/2 as protocol , thats the mousepad then probably ?
[07:35] <Cappo> the touchpad i mean
[07:36] <blacksky> I've got an amd64 system, but I think I need to have the i386 version of cups installed to use my printer drivers. Does anyone know how to do this?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Cappo: if you plugged it in via a ps/2 to USB adapter it would probably Just Work (mine does anyway)
[07:36] <chrissturm> what is a good cd ripper for gnome? sound juicer doesnt work here...
[07:37] <nalioth> chrissturm: grip
[07:37] <nickrud> I use grip for ripping
[07:37] <chrissturm> thx
[07:37] <nalioth> chrissturm: make sure ya got all yer libs installed, ogg, mp3, flac, whatever you want to rip into
[07:39] <Cappo> i was wondering if i could let the touchpad and ps2 work simultaniously
[07:39] <nalioth> Cappo: my ibook touchpad and usb mouse DO work simultaneously
[07:40] <to|m> hmm, my printer doesn't print, but cubs log is ok and printe works in win, parport does work also, because cat xxx > /dev/lp0 blinks printers DATA light
[07:40] <to|m> any idea?
[07:42] <Cappo> is it normal that i cant edit my xorg.conf :s ?
[07:43] <Bubbling_Zombie>  are you using sudo?
[07:43] <Cappo> hm nope, how do i  open the file using that ?
[07:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <Cappo> thanx
[07:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> (on the commandline/terminal)
[07:45] <thr1ce> nalioth: is breezy going to be gcc4?
[07:45] <chrissturm> thr1ce: yep
[07:45] <thoreauputic> thr1ce: I believe so, yes
[07:45] <sebastian> nickrud, Didn't get it to work, not that important though, I still have Windows on this box.
[07:46] <kbrooks> yes
[07:46] <thr1ce> how soon does ubuntu put out RC's ?
[07:46] <chrissturm> thr1ce, you can always install it through its whole devel cycle
[07:46] <thr1ce> chrissturm: not with an ATI card unfortunately
[07:46] <traveller> i have some problem with my wifi. everything seems to be ok but i'm not connecting
[07:47] <chrissturm> thr1ce: i have an ati 9600
[07:47] <thr1ce> and you have 3d accel with breezy ?
[07:47] <Cappo> ok so i edited the xorg.conf succesfully do i have to reboot the systm now or do i have to do something else to let the PS2 mouse work ?
[07:47] <thr1ce> Cappo: nope; just have you restart X
[07:47] <Bubbling_Zombie> Cappo : ctrl + alt + backspace (restarts gdm)
[07:47] <Bubbling_Zombie> beware, this resets all your stuff on your desktop
[07:47] <chrissturm> thr1ce: the ati driver has issues with the 2.6.12 kernel. you can use breezy with 2.6.10 if you need hw accel
[07:47] <Bubbling_Zombie> so be sure to save any open docs & stuff like that
[07:47] <Cappo> thx
[07:48] <chrissturm> thr1ce: but now is not a good time, X is quite broken, better wait some time
[07:48] <thr1ce> chrissturm: yes, that's what I was referring to
[07:48] <thr1ce> chrissturm: that's why I was wondering abotu RC's
[07:48] <thr1ce> i figure they are probably stable enough
[07:48] <nickrud> sebastian  back. satan ;)
[07:49] <^DodGeR^> traveller, is your toute set ptoeprly to the wifi gateway ? can u ping the wifi gate ?
[07:49] <^DodGeR^> toute = route
[07:49] <chrissturm> thr1ce: subscribe to breezy-changes. as soon as linux-restricted-modules appears for the 2.6.12 kernel 3d accel with ati should work
[07:49] <^DodGeR^> daing , xcuse my spelling , jeez
[07:49] <thr1ce> chrissturm: no, it won't; ati drivers won't compile on 2.6.12 without lots of patching
[07:50] <chrissturm> thr1ce: thats why theres no linux-restricted-modules for breezy :)
[07:50] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: it was set correctly, could the encryption mode affect it?
[07:50] <Cappo> hmm still something wrong, mouse stil does not work :s
[07:50] <chrissturm> thr1ce: and as soon as that package builds, its a sign that the issues are resolved
[07:51] <^DodGeR^> yeah it could
[07:51] <^DodGeR^> u using wep ? is your essid set correctly ?
[07:51] <thr1ce> chrissturm: ATI hasn't even ressolved the issues, I doubt ubuntu will try
[07:51] <^DodGeR^> right key for right essid
[07:51] <chrissturm> thr1ce: right. i got it to compile, but it didnt run
[07:51] <plb> If anyone wants to test my metacity theme out I put it on gnome-look http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26558
[07:52] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: essid and key all correct, still no connection
[07:54] <othernoob> can the mozilla-firefox plugin be used for opera as well or is there an extra plugin for opera?
[07:54] <^DodGeR^> traveller, open a terminal , 'iwlist ra0 scan' (if your interface is ra0, could be wlan0 or some such - if the access point max addess dont show up u dont have connection
[07:54] <othernoob> i meant mplayer-firefox...
[07:54] <othernoob> damn you freud and your slip
[07:54] <Bubbling_Zombie> plb, looks nice. But the buttons look "drawed", while the other bordersare very straight
[07:54] <xry> why can't i make java work?
[07:54] <^DodGeR^> scan for it , make sure its there , then maybe just restart the interface , 'ifconfig ra0 down' 'ifconfig ra0 up' , and then check your 'route'
[07:55] <xry> i installed the java package
[07:55] <xry> but still, firefox or mozilla won't show Jaba
[07:55] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: there's an AP
[07:55] <xry> *Java
[07:55] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: ok
[07:56] <sJaM> it is quite easy
[07:56] <sJaM> how did you install java xry
[07:56] <othernoob> xry set firefox to the proper path for java?
[07:56] <xry> othernoob: what do you mean?
[07:56] <knowledge_> Ok guys another problem...I patched my kernel yesterday and now my wifi card wont work...and I have to keep typing in "sudo modprobe i8k" in order to get my fans working
[07:56] <knowledge_> any ideas?
[07:56] <^DodGeR^> traveller, if the AP is there and the mac address is visible , youre connected to it (then its just config u need to sort out)
[07:57] <Belutz> anybody, what should i do when the unmount of CD is failed, i can't get the CD out from my CD Drive?
[07:57] <^DodGeR^> traveller, make sure u got the right gateway set , type 'route' the route with the UG should be the one to your gateway
[07:57] <othernoob> eh, just go to options and mark java xry.. i was thinking of konqueror..or listen to sJaM :p
[07:57] <sJaM> find /usr/lib -iname '*libjavaplugin*'
[07:58] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: gateway, dns, anything that i can think of is correct
[07:58] <sebastian> I'm starting to getting tired of this. I think I'lll give up.
[07:58] <sJaM> should give you a set of options
[07:58] <traveller> erm...there's one thing though, i have a g card, the network is b, do i need to explicitly specify something?
[07:58] <thr1ce> Belutz: eject /dev/cdrom
[07:58] <sJaM> then use the one in the ns directory
[07:58] <othernoob> sJaM do you know if there is an mplayer plugin for opera or if the mplayer plugin for firefox can be used for opera as well?
[07:59] <sJaM> opera can use mplayer plugins as I remember
[07:59] <Cappo> so i rebooted my machine with the ps2 mouse inserted and now it does work, the touchpad doesn work anymore though
[07:59] <othernoob> sJaM would you happen to know how?
[07:59] <nickrud> sebastian, I just remembered: you need to move the stuff in ~/.asoundrc to /etc/asound.conf
[07:59] <sJaM> and make a symbolic link to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:59] <^DodGeR^> last chance is to restart it completely then traveller , /etc/init.d/net.ra0 restart or some such i think
[07:59] <sJaM> hmm
[07:59] <sJaM> I have opera
[07:59] <xry> sjam
[07:59] <xry> wait
[07:59] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: ok i'll try that
[07:59] <nickrud> sebastian, if .asoundrc exists, it overrides asound.conf
[07:59] <sebastian> nickrud, I think the problem is that UT04 uses OSS.
[07:59] <xry> you write to fast :)
[08:00] <xry> now i entered the iname command
[08:00] <^DodGeR^> i also found i had issues sometimes when other interfaces were up , i have 3 NIC's and a wifi NIC , i once had to bring them all down then bring up only the wifi
[08:00] <xry> i got lots of hits
[08:00] <Cappo> got another question everytime i logon i get the errermsgbox saying missing command to run and networkconfiguration pops up, an id how i can fix this problem ?
[08:00] <xry> and now?
[08:00] <sJaM> hmm
[08:00] <sJaM> paste it to
[08:00] <sJaM> to a pastebin
[08:00] <sJaM> and give me the link
[08:01] <nickrud> sebastian, yes, the dmix allows alsa's oss emulation mix more than one sound stream
[08:01] <knowledge_> anyone have any ideas on my problem?
[08:01] <sJaM> paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:01] <^DodGeR^> traveller, did u compile driver for the wifi nic yourself ? ie ure loading a module for it manually ? maybe unload it and re modprobe it then reconfigure
[08:01] <^DodGeR^> last chance it to remve the 'connection' alltogether , and readd it from scratch
[08:01] <sebastian> nickrud, The dmix thingy broke stuff for me. :/
[08:01] <^DodGeR^> bbs , pizza is here , good luck traveller
[08:02] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: it's the original driver
[08:02] <traveller> i didn't compile it
[08:02] <traveller> yeah i could use some time to do the things you suggested
[08:02] <nalioth> nickrud: y'all ready for this hurricane to hit freeport and visit the alamo?
[08:02] <xry> sjam: http://pastebin.ca/17917
[08:02] <nickrud> nalioth, yes, I still haven't gotten there on my own
[08:03] <sJaM> othernoob, the plugin directory of opera is in /usr/lib/opera/plugin
[08:03] <sJaM> you tried to just make a symbolic link
[08:03] <nalioth> nickrud: stand outside with a big umbrella in a couple days, you'll see the countryside
[08:03] <sebastian> I just want my ut04 to work. :(
[08:04] <QaDeS> the nvidia driver doesn't seem to work on my machines...
[08:04] <sJaM> xry, it seems that firefox already has a java plugin
[08:04] <thoreauputic> sebastian: did you try the "killall esd" I suggested ?
[08:04] <sJaM> did you try to restart your browser
[08:04] <nickrud> sebastian, the hack is to just killall esd, and run ut.
[08:04] <xry> yes
[08:04] <sJaM> ok
[08:04] <sJaM> did you installed java twice ?
[08:04] <sJaM> at 2 different ways
[08:05] <xry> hm?
[08:05] <xry> i've installed java in one million ways
[08:05] <sebastian> thoreauputic, nickrud The problem is that ut use the wrong card even though I've set alsa to use the right card.
[08:05] <drayen> trying to follow the wiki page on building new java versions, but cant get past the "No matching plugin was found." problem - useing amd64... any ideas?
[08:05] <Belutz> thr1ce: i got this error when eject /dev/cdrom : eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[08:05] <thr1ce> what is your cd device?
[08:05] <Belutz> /dev/cdrom
[08:06] <sJaM> could you do a:
[08:06] <sJaM> ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[08:06] <sJaM> to check if the symbolic link matches ?
[08:06] <sebastian> Hmm, I just had an idea, I could make an automatic ntfs drive mounter, the only problem is that my patience with Ubuntu is starting to run out.
[08:06] <Cappo> got another question everytime i logon i get the errermsgbox saying missing command to run and networkconfiguration pops up, an id how i can fix this problem ?
[08:06] <sJaM> if it is red with a black background it is invalid
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Belutz: try using sudo eject ; if that doesn't work try sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject
[08:06] <drayen> sJaM was that directed at me?
[08:06] <dusselmann> does anyone wants to play freeciv?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Belutz: that last command sets eject suid root
[08:07] <sJaM> no to xry
[08:07] <drayen> :)
[08:07] <Belutz> thoreauputic: sudo eject works... thanks :)
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Belutz: no worries :)
[08:07] <sebastian> I've spent all day getting Linux to work. I guess I should just give it up and go back to Windows where things work. *is still impressed by the patience full time Linux users must have*
[08:07] <kbrooks> no.
[08:07] <kbrooks> sebastian, no
[08:08] <xry> sJaM: http://pastebin.ca/17918
[08:08] <kbrooks> sebastian, you could search the wiki
[08:08] <thr1ce> sebastian: lol, it's simple
[08:08] <thr1ce> sebastian: either something is using your sound, your permissions are off, or it's not looking in the right spot
[08:08] <drayen> anyone else manage to install java on amd64? care to give me a few pointers ?
[08:08] <thr1ce> have you tested that it works with somethign else, like a media player?
[08:08] <sJaM> you tried to install backports java xry ?
[08:08] <mattyJ> anyone here use monodevelop? i cant get it to work, not sure if it requires some setting up first, the build and run buttons dont work
[08:09] <sebastian> thr1ce, It works, but with the wrong sound card.
[08:09] <sJaM> well was it in red with a black background ?
[08:09] <xry> yes
[08:09] <sJaM> ok
[08:09] <sJaM> do
[08:09] <sJaM> sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[08:09] <sJaM> and then a
[08:09] <other|study> drayen: java hasn't been completely ported to amd64 yet.
[08:10] <sebastian> It's be easier if the dns lookup wasn't screwed. :/
[08:10] <other|study> drayen: you can install it but you won't have the plugin and the webstart
[08:10] <sJaM> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:11] <Mafi> is there a ubuntu update for firefox 1.0.5?
[08:11] <Mafi> because I can't find it
[08:11] <drayen> other|study, im not worried about the plugin and webstart at the moment... just wnat to get java apps running
[08:11] <bols> Mafi, no.. if you want it you have to compile it from the sources or build yourself a .deb package
[08:11] <xry> sJaM: done
[08:12] <Mafi> bols, thanks
[08:12] <sJaM> restart ff
[08:12] <sJaM> and it should work
[08:12] <sebastian> Ah well, back to Windows it is. Goodbye and thanks for all the help!
[08:12] <knowledge_> does anyone know why that happened?
[08:12] <sJaM> the symbolic link you removed with the first command
[08:12] <sJaM> was probably from a different java install
[08:12] <sJaM> which wasn't removed
[08:12] <drayen> other|study, im trying to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions as a tut - but hit a road block when make-jpkg'ing
[08:12] <sJaM> when you removed the package
[08:13] <Mafi> another question. are the repositories from ubuntu guide good? because I use them with a little personal mod, by removing the us. prefix from the adresses because it was getting me broken libraries. can anyone suggest me a better resositories list?
[08:13] <sJaM> does it work xry  ?
[08:14] <nalioth> Mafi: the US repos are the only ones having the transmisstion problem
[08:14] <NoHope> hi all
[08:14] <other|study> drayen: well i'd advise to use the instructions from sun then ..or synaptic if available for amd64
[08:14] <Belutz> what should i install for playing DVD movies?
[08:15] <Mafi> nalioth, so using archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu solves the problem. is there a better list that the one from ubuntu guide?
[08:15] <Belutz> !dvd
[08:15] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Belutz
[08:15] <nickrud> !java
[08:15] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[08:15] <drayen> Belutz, i like useing VLC
[08:15] <thoron> How can I work with this? http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/CACertInclusion
[08:15] <other|study> Belutz: libdvdcss2 and vlc should be enough iirc
[08:16] <Belutz> ok, i'll try it
[08:16] <nickrud> drayen, try that ubuntu page, it was updated recently
[08:16] <Mafi> can someone suggest me a good repositories list?
[08:16] <nalioth> Mafi: if you use backports, extras or marillat regularly, it is just a matter of time b4 your system grinds to a halt
[08:16] <nalioths_dog> Mafi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:17] <Mafi> nalioth, why's that?
[08:17] <to|m> what is the nme of the /etc/cups/*.conf ?
[08:17] <slave> hello all !
[08:18] <kbrooks> !BACKPORTS
[08:18] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for day to day usage!
[08:18] <slave> what version is stable for 64 bit ?
[08:18] <rg58sma> hiii
[08:18] <other|study> slave: hoary?
[08:18] <Gnobody> Hoary
[08:18] <rg58sma> someone have idea how to change the subtitle font to srt in terminal
[08:18] <kbrooks> ubotu, !backports =~ s/
[08:18] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:18] <nalioth> Mafi: because of version discrpancys in the different pkg requirements
[08:18] <kbrooks> er
[08:18] <slave> 5.4 ?
[08:18] <Gnobody> backports are stable enough
[08:18] <kbrooks> ubotu, !backports =~ s/day to day usage!/regularly!/
[08:18] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called '!backports', kbrooks
[08:19] <Gnobody> thats like saying debian etch != stable
[08:19] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s/day to day usage!/regularly!/
[08:19] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[08:19] <slave> IS THERE A ENTERPRISE VERSION FOR UBUNTU ?
[08:19] <sJaM> Package Testers
[08:19] <sJaM> Ubuntu Backports is a community driven project. Most importantly, I need YOU to help me test packages, and provide feedback. Newly compiled packages are in -staging trees (i.e. warty-backports-staging, etc). These are directly uploaded by me after compile, so I cannot guarantee their stability. Speaking from experience, 99% of the backports I've uploaded to staging get directly marked stable without changes, so I'm pretty good at stability!
[08:19] <sJaM> But, BIG FAT WARNING: The staging area should be treated like Debian experimental -- it's NOT tested, NOT guaranteed in any way, shape or form to be stable!
[08:19] <kbrooks> !backports
[08:19] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports for regularly!
[08:19] <Gnobody> there will be 6.04
[08:19] <Belutz> other|study: i can't find libdvdcss2 ?
[08:19] <nalioth> Mafi: if you use those 'unofficial" repos regulary, your system will have too many interconnected unofficial pkgs to downgrade cleanly, and at some point you'll not be able to upgrade either
[08:19] <Gnobody> will be the enterprise ver
[08:19] <poningru> can someone check a page for me?
[08:19] <rg58sma> eyyy someone have idea how to change the subtitle font to srt in terminal
[08:19] <Will_> Gnobody: Stop saying my name!
[08:19] <Will_> I was asleep
[08:19] <poningru> wikipedia.org?
[08:19] <sJaM> from the backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:19] <Mafi> nalioth, so what sould I not use?
[08:19] <Gnobody> sorry Will_
[08:20] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s/for regularly!/regularly!/
[08:20] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[08:20] <kbrooks> !backports
[08:20] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports regularly!
[08:20] <kbrooks> nalioth, thanks for that correction.
[08:20] <other|study> Belutz: then get new repositories..not sure in which one it is
[08:20] <Will_> *giggle* Don't be
[08:21] <nalioth> Mafi: i think you should comment out (or uncheck in synaptic) hoary-backports, hoary-extras (and at a minimum, uncheck/comment out marillat <it has gotten way behind re ubuntu>)
[08:21] <kbrooks> nalioth, whats with marillat anyways
[08:21] <knowledge_> can someone please help me get my wifi working?
[08:22] <nickrud> Belutz, what they mean is check backports, get libdvdcss, then uncheck it. That qualifies as 'not regularly' :)
[08:22] <nebular> how do I reconfigure my x configuration? I just installed hoary and my x server can't go up to my maximum resolution (and is there any special way to get the nvidia packages working, or do they go fine right out of apt?)
[08:22] <to|m> what is the nme of your the /etc/cups/*.conf  file?
[08:22] <sJaM> there are multipls
[08:22] <other|study> kbrooks: marillat=debian=different from hoary
[08:22] <nalioth> nebular: watch ubotu
[08:22] <nalioth> !resolution
[08:22] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:22] <ep> where are the forums?
[08:22] <to|m> is it cups.conf or cupsd.conf?
[08:22] <Mafi> nalioth, are the repositories from ubuntu guide safe enougth?
[08:23] <slave> Thanks all u folks so much for the advices, I will try out now, CHOW !
[08:23] <^DodGeR^> traveller, any luck ?
[08:23] <nalioth> Mafi: i dont recommend the ubuntuguide at all, i suggest wiki.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com/newusersguide  (may be singular "user"  <<<)
[08:24] <djp> can anyone tell me why at boot time i receive the following message... *Setting disc parameters... /dev/hdc: No such file or directory
[08:24] <Mafi> nalioth, I get your point now
[08:24] <fedetxf> hi, people, i just installed hoary and my serial mouse is not working. i managed to amke it work in fedore core 4 using inputattach and mouseocnfig, but those tools are not in ubuntu. what can i do?
[08:24] <djp> should i worry about it or just ignore it?
[08:24] <nickrud> djp, does that happen before or after hotplug?
[08:25] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, george?
[08:25] <djp> before hotplug, nickrud
[08:25] <knowledge_> ok...I recompiled my kernel yesterday with a patch...and now my wifi won't work, it's rocognised, but htere's no driver
[08:25] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, did we help you install ubuntu?
[08:25] <searcher`> djp: don't worry about that, i have the same message
[08:25] <tiefox> there is an ubuntu firefox 1.0.5 package ?
[08:25] <nickrud> djp, then don't worry about it
[08:25] <kbrooks> tiefox, no, but
[08:25] <searcher`> i *think* it's related to hdparm trying to set the disc param for hdc
[08:25] <kbrooks> !firefox
[08:25] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[08:26] <djp> searcher`: ok. do you know why?
[08:26] <to|m> has anyone a parport printer? could u say me pls what is in ur /etc/cups/printers.conf at DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 ...is it right?
[08:26] <shakuhashi> anyone knows an ubuntu customization with LTSP installed?
[08:26] <djp> thanks nickrud
[08:26] <searcher`> djp: you can check if /dev/hdc is oke using hdparm /dev/hdc
[08:26] <kbrooks> tiefox, where 1.0.4 is replaced with 1.0.5
[08:26] <searcher`> DMA etc should be enabled
[08:26] <Belutz> !backports
[08:26] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org; also, Do not use the backports regularly!
[08:26] <other|study> djp because hdparm is only for the harddrives on ubuntu iirc
[08:26] <searcher`> other|study: works on cdrom as well
[08:27] <searcher`> except for the -m setting
[08:27] <kbrooks> ubotu, !backports =~ s/; also,/./
[08:27] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called '!backports', kbrooks
[08:27] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s/; also,/./
[08:27] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[08:27] <djp> it may have only started since i enabled dma, but i'm not sure...
[08:27] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports
[08:27] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Do not use the backports regularly!
[08:27] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: AFAIK there's been no recent security updates on Ubuntu's firefox, so setting 1.0.5 in about:config is probably premature
[08:27] <searcher`> dma, unmask intr and read-ahead are all configurable (at least, at the 8 pc's i've tried it)
[08:27] <funkyHat> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net, recomended, or not?
[08:27] <djp> on the /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd devices
[08:28] <other|study> searcher`: on some systems..yes..but the hdparm.conf on ubuntu is only for the harddrives
[08:28] <to|m> hmm, I think I found a, eror in printers config if u have a parport printer
[08:28] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: no luck at all
[08:28] <erirlar> how do i remove esd and reconfigure alsa again?
[08:28] <searcher`> other|study: actually, i use that to set hdc and hdd
[08:28] <searcher`> you have to add a new section for those respectively
[08:28] <thoreauputic> other|study: erm.. hdparm.conf works fine for CD or DVD as well
[08:28] <nickrud> djp, yes, hdparm is called before the cd is properly configured by hotplug, if I recall correctly
[08:28] <to|m> could anyone hellp me verify it?
[08:28] <Dr_GonZo> hello
[08:28] <other|study> thoreauputic: on some systems..
[08:28] <Dr_GonZo> I have a question
[08:28] <searcher`> are the IDE cd drivers modules or built into the kernel
[08:29] <nickrud> modules
[08:29] <funkyHat> Dr_GonZo, just ask :)
[08:29] <searcher`> i always assumed as a module
[08:29] <Dr_GonZo> how start an application at login
[08:29] <searcher`> that would explain the not found message
[08:29] <Dr_GonZo> for example starting amule pr azureus
[08:29] <searcher`> module isn't loaded at that point in the boot
[08:29] <Dr_GonZo> thx
[08:29] <Dr_GonZo> :)
[08:29] <Dr_GonZo> thx funkyHat
[08:29] <djp> nickrud: ahh, ok. so nothing to worry about... thanks once again
[08:29] <to|m> plz, add a parport printer an show me ur /etc/cubs/printers.conf  DeviceURI parallel:/dev/???
[08:29] <funkyHat> Dr_GonZo, go to System > Preferences, and click on 'Sessions'
[08:30] <djp> thanks for your input searcher`
[08:30] <nickrud> to|m, mine is /dev/lp0
[08:30] <funkyHat> Dr_GonZo,  then go to the 'Startup Programs' tab
[08:30] <^DodGeR^> guess u might have to remove and readd traveller :(
[08:31] <nalioth> Dr_GonZo: system > preferences > sessions (look for the startup tab)
[08:31] <traveller> erm...remove and re-add?
[08:31] <Dr_GonZo> thx
[08:31] <Dr_GonZo> nalioth, and funkyHat
[08:31] <to|m> nickrud: hmm, ok... so my conf wasn't
[08:31] <Dr_GonZo> :)
[08:31] <kbrooks> ubotu, backports =~ s/Do not use the backports regularly!/Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu./
[08:31] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[08:31] <Dr_GonZo> great distro ubuntu
[08:31] <Dr_GonZo> :)
[08:32] <nickrud> to|m, why are modifying cup's config by hand, anyway?
[08:32] <to|m> nickrud: because it doesn't work with gnome frontend
[08:32] <dell500> how exactly do you update the firmware for certain DVD drives in ubuntu?
[08:32] <funkyHat> thanks kbrooks
[08:33] <to|m> nickrud: it never did the right parport in the file I think
[08:33] <kbrooks> funkyHat, for?
[08:33] <nickrud> to|m, may I pm you?
[08:33] <to|m> nickrud: yes
[08:33] <cartman> do I need an SMP kernel to enable Hyper Threading?
[08:33] <kbrooks> cartman, No.
[08:34] <cartman> I added ht=on to boot commandline & sure CPU has HT but dmesg says HT is disabled
[08:34] <funkyHat> kbrooks, i asked about ubuntu backports
[08:34] <cartman> kbrooks: might SMP kernel disable HT?
[08:34] <kbrooks> cartman, I'm not on a P4.
[08:34] <nalioth> cartman: i hope not, what if you have dual-proc dual-core P4s running?
[08:34] <Belutz> speaking of kernel... how do i edit the kernel?
[08:34] <cartman> kbrooks: alright
[08:35] <cartman> nalioth: then wonder why its disabled
[08:35] <searcher`> Belutz: generally speaking, you don't
[08:35] <kbrooks> Belutz, Why do you want to?
[08:35] <cartman> nalioth: /proc/cpuinfo says HT extension  is there
[08:35] <Belutz> kbrooks: just playing around with linux
[08:36] <Kris|Sick> hello
[08:36] <kbrooks> Belutz, "playing around" doesnt include kernel "editing"
[08:36] <cartman> so anyone using HyperThreading here
[08:36] <Belutz> kbrooks: ic
[08:36] <bluefoxicy> sitchiation managed.
[08:36] <Kris> my wife is having probs with her ubuntu computer today so I've got a few questions for ya ;)
[08:36] <kbrooks> ask.
[08:36] <searcher`> Kris: i'm working on the g/f pc, so lets hear it
[08:36] <Kris> first, is there a easy to use NFS filebrowser of any sort?
[08:37] <Belutz> kbrooks: is there a file who store the information about the hardware in use and the hardware setting?
[08:37] <Kris> preferably gui?
[08:37] <cartman> Kris: nfs:/ in konqueror
[08:37] <Kris> I'm a commandline guy, I don't really touch gnome at all
[08:37] <Kris> cartman she's using gnome
[08:37] <kbrooks> Kris, nfs is GUI indepent
[08:37] <cartman> Kris: ok
[08:37] <Kris> konquerer is kde I think
[08:37] <searcher`> yup
[08:37] <searcher`> you can use nautilus to connect to a nfs server
[08:38] <searcher`> also works for scp, ftp and some other stuff
[08:38] <searcher`> if you're using hoary you can select `connect to server' from the Places menu
[08:38] <A[D] minS> i want to take image ISO from CD ... how i can do it ?
[08:38] <Kris> basicly the problem is nautilus isn't showing one of our ubuntu boxes in the windows workgroup but it shows up via commandline
[08:38] <blueyed> I've used makejail to create chroots for my apache virtual hosts. Because this also mounts /proc there 'du' says that they use > 500MB. How can I get the real used diskspace?
[08:38] <Kris> ok I'll try that searcher`
[08:39] <Mafi> nalioth, can you provide me a safe good repositories list?
[08:39] <searcher`> Kris: you can also mount NFS shares using /etc/fstab
[08:39] <djp> ok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa
[08:39] <djp> t there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?
[08:39] <kbrooks> Mafi, yes. paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:40] <Quest-Master> Can someone tell me why my apps. are so slow compared to Windows? Firefox takes 3 seconds to load in Windows, 15+ in Ubuntu.. Foobar2000 takes 1 in Windows, Rhythmbox 10+.. HydraIRC loads in 2 on Windows, X-Chat more than 5 on Ubuntu.. it is the case like this for just about all of my apps.
[08:40] <Quest-Master> Also
[08:40] <Kris> searcher` there is no connect to server option under places
[08:40] <Quest-Master> I run a prelink after every apt-get operation, so.. yeah
[08:40] <searcher`> Kris: try opening a nautilus _browser_ window (so no spatial browser)
[08:40] <searcher`> it should be in the file menu
[08:41] <Kris> ok
[08:41] <traveller> does ubuntu have a firewall enable by default?
[08:41] <Mafi> kbrooks, I think that's somehow everything. am i wrong?
[08:41] <nalioth> Mafi: the dog just sent you one
[08:41] <blueyed> traveller: no
[08:41] <nalioths_dog> Mafi: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:41] <kbrooks> nalioth, i linked him
[08:41] <nalioth> traveller: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[08:41] <Gnobody> Traveller: Yes
[08:41] <Gnobody> most linux distros do
[08:42] <Gnobody> it's called iptables
[08:42] <nalioth> kbrooks: sorry, am on my scan windows every minute dance (got lots goin on)
[08:42] <kbrooks> Gnobody, no
[08:42] <Gnobody> ?
[08:42] <searcher`> Gnobody: but it's not enabled by default
[08:42] <kbrooks> it's not 'enabled'
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:42] <Gnobody> ahh
[08:42] <Mafi> thanks
[08:42] <Gnobody> very easy to enable
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> iptables is the command used to 'create' a set of firewalling rules.
[08:42] <nalioth> traveller: that link will explain a bit about iptables
[08:42] <kbrooks> Gnobody, uh
[08:42] <kbrooks> who told you that?
[08:42] <klaym> how do I take a screenshot via terminal?
[08:42] <kbrooks> it's not 'very easy' to enable
[08:43] <searcher`> klaym: install scrot
[08:43] <Gnobody> myself, iptable rules are not hard
[08:43] <klaym> searcher': or eat my scrotum
[08:43] <Will_> Gah. My internets is breaking
[08:43] <traveller> i saw this "ip_forward=no" in /etc/network/options, could that be preventing a connection?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: install imagemagick ; then   import -window root screen.png
[08:43] <Gnobody> firestarter is good
[08:43] <klaym> or was it a joke?
[08:43] <Kris> searcher` connect to server had no option for nfs server
[08:43] <thoreauputic> or screenie.jpg or whatever
[08:43] <searcher`> Kris: my mistake then
[08:44] <Kris> and trying windows share in that dialog was unsuccessful
[08:44] <^DodGeR^> by default u should be able to get 'out' no worries traveller
[08:44] <klaym> searcher': sorry
[08:44] <searcher`> you can add an entry for an nfs server in fstab, or maybe someone else knows another way
[08:44] <searcher`> klaym: apt-get install scrot :-)
[08:44] <klaym> yea ok
[08:44] <sJaM> does someone know here to have a iptables script initialised by default when booting
[08:44] <klaym> it's a utility?
[08:44] <djp> ok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa
[08:44] <djp> t there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?
[08:44] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: well, this time i'm seeing the door, just can't get through it with seemingly all correct settings within my knowledge
[08:45] <Quest-Master> -_-
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Kris: if you've set up nfs, you just use the mount point defined in /etc/fstab to mount the share
[08:46] <traveller> could it be that i need to tell my G card to use a B network specifically?
[08:46] <^DodGeR^> traveller, do u have a default gateway ?? and can u ping it ?
[08:46] <^DodGeR^> it should use as narrow a net as possible
[08:46] <traveller> it's in route, but can't ping it, "Destination host unreachable"
[08:47] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[08:47] <^DodGeR^> ahh haaa
[08:47] <^DodGeR^> networking issues , netmask to narrow ?
[08:47] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: how do i check that?
[08:47] <Kris> aaah ok
[08:47] <Kris> nfs
[08:47] <^DodGeR^> untill your routing allows u to get to your gateway u aint going nowhere
[08:47] <Kris> not running
[08:47] <knowledge_> follow the guidelines to make a kernel from there <----???
[08:47] <Kris> heh
[08:47] <ernstp> hehe, X is indeed broken in breezy
[08:47] <knowledge_> some one told me that
[08:47] <Kris> what's the package name for nfs?
[08:48] <^DodGeR^> your gateways IP an internal ip ? like 192.168.0.1 ?
[08:48] <ernstp> Does xkbcomp really exist in any package in breezy right now or is it lost for the moment?
[08:48] <Kris> I've got smbd and nmbd running....
[08:48] <Kris> but no nfsd that I can see
[08:48] <thoreauputic> Kris: there are two you probably need - nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server  also possibly portmap
[08:49] <^DodGeR^> clearly your internal ip must be in the same subnet as your gateway
[08:49] <^DodGeR^> on that interface
[08:49] <thoreauputic> although portmap may be a dep of the others...
[08:49] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: my gateway has 192.168.55.1
[08:49] <^DodGeR^> ie if your wireless gatway is 192.168.1.1 then your wireless ip must be something in 192.168.1.X if your netmask is 255.255.255.0
[08:49] <Kris> yeah nfs-common automaticly installed portmap
[08:50] <^DodGeR^> ok now we talking , that being the gatway , your internal Ip must be 192.168.55.X with subnet 255.255.255.0
[08:50] <nickrud> djp, hal is part of what gnome uses to handle dynamic devices; a one time glitch in that is probably nothing to worry about
[08:50] <Belutz> nickrud: i already install vlc and libdvdcss2, i can play DVD movies, but i got no sound, what might cause the problem?
[08:50] <nickrud> Belutz, I don't have a dvd, so I don't have a clue :)
[08:50] <Kris> ok got nfs now how do I start it running?
[08:51] <teprrr> hello there, can anyone say if it's possible to make this work: http://pastebin.com/315147
[08:51] <^DodGeR^> then your default route must be from anything on 192.168.55 via 192.168.55.1 - ie 'route add default gw 192.168.55.1' traveller
[08:51] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: i did all that
[08:51] <djp> ok a couple of final questions. (i'm attempting to chase up some outstanding queries that i have never got around to). after 30 mounts a test is run at boot. my last test returned a fail on my second disc drive where my /home directory is mounted. should i be worried? the other question was once (by once i m,ean literally once) i received a message when my desktop was about to appear saying "failed to initialize HAL" and just sa
[08:51] <djp> t there with my background colour and... nothing. had to reboot. is this a known problem or again, should i worry?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Kris: I suggest you read this >> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[08:52] <^DodGeR^> if your on the same subnet and the route is good u must be able to reach and ping the gw , cant have an unreachable there
[08:52] <Kris> thanks, just what I was looking for :)
[08:52] <^DodGeR^> maybe a timeout if it aint there , but not unreachable
[08:52] <nalioth> djp: what are you worried bout re your HD test?
[08:52] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: my laptop now is connecting through it, windows on that other computer could connect to it
[08:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> isn't hal that computer from that movie? you know the one that gos crasy and kills the crew?
[08:53] <aru> 2001 A space oddesy
[08:53] <Kris> ah ok nfs is not what I want after all
[08:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea there we go ^_^
[08:53] <aru> sp.
[08:53] <Kris> what I need is for her to be able to see smb shares
[08:53] <Servo888> anybody know where libtoolize would be located in apt-get? can't seem to apt-cache search it
[08:53] <^DodGeR^> huh ? so its working now ?
[08:53] <Kris> she's not going to be able to go in and add nfs directories whenever she wants something shared
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Kris: this is similar but maybe easier to follow: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/
[08:54] <glick> gmplayer cant seem to play my mpeg files
[08:54] <glick> it just freezes
[08:54] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: i have two computers here, a laptop which is what i'm using now, and the other computer with ubuntu, mandriva, and windows
[08:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> eww windows >.<
[08:54] <Kris> i think I'd be better off with a smb troubleshooter
[08:54] <Kris> I know I saw one on the web somewhere....
[08:55] <^DodGeR^> ahh and u know its working since youre here , but windows cant connect to it ?
[08:55] <traveller> windows connects, mandriva requires a 64bit driver which isn't released by the vendor, and ubuntu with seemingly all right configs but couldn't connect
[08:55] <atlas95> hello
[08:55] <LD> Hi, can anyone help me in mounting a CompactFlash Reader?
[08:55] <traveller> i'm using the laptop now, it's the desktop that has the problem
[08:55] <glick> does anyone kow why mplayer wont play my mpeg files
[08:55] <glick> ?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Kris: yeah - I use NFS exclusively as I only have linux boxen
[08:55] <atlas95> scuse, i'm searching for play one movie in vlc or mplayer in fullscreen
[08:55] <glick> it just freeses
[08:55] <Kris> my wife dual boots windows and ubuntu
[08:55] <^DodGeR^> weird - dunno
[08:55] <atlas95> LD, i search that too
[08:56] <traveller> god hates me :(
[08:56] <Kris> she's not very linux savvy so I'm just looking for an easy way to get to her files stored on our smb server
[08:56] <LD> atlas95: any luck?
[08:56] <^DodGeR^> the gateway allows connections from any MAC address ?
[08:56] <Kris> her ubuntu box sees all the other computers on the network except the one that has all the files
[08:56] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: yes
[08:56] <^DodGeR^> ie its not setup so it allows the laptop but nothing else ?
[08:56] <atlas95> i don't know my girlfriend give me is compactflash tonigh
[08:56] <atlas95> and i search how to read it with my printer
[08:56] <atlas95> hp psc 1350
[08:56] <oliv67> #ubuntu-fr@irc.freenode.net
[08:56] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: it had mac access on, but i disabled it
[08:56] <D1> my mom uses ubuntu. ;] 
[08:57] <^DodGeR^> if u cant get windows to connect , your bound to have zero luck with anything else
[08:57] <TheWarMachine> anyone know how to play .bin  files on linux
[08:57] <D1> of course she doesn't really notice the difference between it and windows
[08:57] <TheWarMachine> ?
[08:57] <atlas95> with windows any problem bit...
[08:57] <yahalom> what is the breakage level of breezy?
[08:57] <D1> but it works for her.
[08:57] <traveller> ^DodGeR^: windows connects
[08:57] <LD> atlas95: all I need is to find the device name (ex. sda*), but I get 'unable to read partition table'
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Kris: maybe the problem is at the Windows end? (just a guess)
[08:57] <yahalom> any experience?
[08:57] <^DodGeR^> ugg
[08:57] <thoreauputic> yahalom: /topic
[08:58] <traveller> it's only ubuntu...it should connect...but it's not....
[08:58] <yahalom> thoreauputic, thanx didnt see that :)
[08:58] <^DodGeR^> dunno then :(
[08:58] <^DodGeR^> end of my knowledge
[08:58] <D1> what exactly does gnome's file sharing do to the smb.conf?
[08:58] <glick> why does gmplayer freeze when trying to play an mpeg?
[08:58] <D1> cause it has very limited options.
[08:58] <TheWarMachine> anyone have any idea?
[08:58] <glick> no error messages
[08:58] <geokker> what is a .bin file?
[08:58] <Swabby-> is Ubuntu fit for enterprise?
[08:58] <D1> glick, do you have the w32codecs installed?
[08:58] <glick> on the commandline this is the last thing it prints
[08:58] <glick> alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
[08:58] <glick> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[08:58] <TheWarMachine> bin is a cd image
[08:58] <nalioth> TheWarMachine: bin files are usually NOT "playable"
[08:58] <glick> D1, yes
[08:59] <D1> and its ALL mpgs?
[08:59] <traveller> how do i get ubuntu to use a better display driver? it's running 1280x1024 at 60Hz, but my monitor can go up to 85Hz at that setting
[08:59] <atlas95> how to restart HAL?
[08:59] <geokker> sounds vaguely familiar
[08:59] <^DodGeR^> i had zero issues with ubuntu traveller , wireless worked first time easy
[08:59] <glick> The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
[08:59] <glick> VDecoder init failed :(
[08:59] <geokker> can you not burn it back to an audio cd and then rip it yp ogg?
[08:59] <nalioth> traveller: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:59] <teprrr> so, is there a way to install a package with dpkg when it's not possible to run pre/post and such scripts?
[08:59] <traveller> nalioth: radeon 9200 se
[08:59] <teprrr> --force-all doesn't help
[09:00] <^DodGeR^> ull need to adjust the horizontal/vertical rates in the config file
[09:00] <blueyed> If I mount /proc somewhere to be available after 'chroot', does it really take the diskspace (like du reports)?
[09:00] <nalioth> traveller: you can use the VESA driver to get better display options
[09:00] <kbrooks> blueyed, no
[09:00] <atlas95> how to restart hal proc please?
[09:00] <^DodGeR^> mine is 31.5-94.0 and 30-90 , it runs 1600x1200@75 with that
[09:00] <teimu> i just downloaded the new firefox version. coming from a windows background, im looking for some 'Program Files' to extract it to. where would you typically extract something like firefox in a linux system?
[09:00] <traveller> nalioth: how do i set that...can't seem to find that option in the menus
[09:01] <nalioth> teimu: programs YOU install usually go in /usr/local/bin/
[09:01] <Miks> does anybody know how can i change the font colors in the gnome panel?
[09:01] <glick> am i missing some codec or something
[09:01] <glick> or some library?
[09:01] <robert_pectol> TheWarMachine:  Are you simply trying to mount the ISO image itself (assuming it's an ISO image)?
[09:01] <teimu>  nalioth  ok, thanks for your help!
[09:01] <D1> probably in gtkrc file?
[09:01] <nalioth> traveller: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and watch for the parts about resolutions and driver. for driver, choose VESA
[09:02] <mame> why i cant play video with totem ?
[09:02] <mame> divx movies by example ...
[09:02] <Ju1ce> have you got the codecs
[09:02] <traveller> nalioth: thanks
[09:02] <nalioths_dog> mame: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:02] <blueyed> kbrooks: and do hardlinks use twice the space? is it wise to hardlink the php-binary into a chrooted chost?
[09:02] <glick> i downloaded the w32xcodecs
[09:03] <Kris> ok I'm gonna rephrase my question here: My wife dual boots between windows and ubuntu. While in windows she sees all the samba shares on the network without problems, but while booting to ubuntu she cannot see samba shares on one of the other ubuntu boxes. Any ideas?
[09:03] <djp> nalioth: sorry, just seen your response. well it tells me the mount check after 30 restarts has failed, although everything boots up ok and appears to be operational...
[09:03] <kbrooks> blueyed, No.
[09:03] <kbrooks> blueyed,
[09:03] <kbrooks> yes, no
[09:04] <teprrr> can anyone say what can I do to make this disappear? E: The package apt-utils needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:04] <teprrr> apt-cache policy founds it
[09:04] <blueyed> kbrooks: hardlinks use twice the space?
[09:04] <teprrr> and dpkg -i doesn't work as it can't run post/pre scripts...
[09:04] <blueyed> kbrooks: better copy them there?
[09:04] <klaym> anyone know a fun multiplayer game (via internet) from apt?
[09:04] <nickrud> atlas95, sudo invoke-rc.d dbus-1 restart will restart hald
[09:04] <nalioth> djp: ok then. if you are concerned about your HD, install 'smartmontools' and run 'smartctl'
[09:04] <kbrooks> blueyed, I said in orer
[09:04] <nalioth> djp: this program reads the S.M.A.R.T HD data
[09:05] <nalioth> klaym: bzflag?
[09:05] <djp> nalioth: is that generally what a fail means then, that the hard drive could be failing?
[09:05] <klaym> nalioth: I'll check, thanks
[09:05] <Ju1ce> when I had Gnome,  (a with umlauts) and  (o with umlauts) worked just fine. But now I use kde and i can't use scandinavic characters.
[09:05] <kbrooks> order*
[09:05] <Ju1ce> where could I set the correct charset?
[09:05] <glick> what the hell
[09:05] <Will_> KDE is racist!
[09:06] <djp> thanks for the smartmontools advice nalioth by the way
[09:06] <blueyed> kbrooks: I had two question, and 3 anwers given from you. What would be better than hardlinking into the chroot environment?
[09:06] <D1> I wonder whatever happened to the coaster project
[09:06] <D1> I dont think its in ubuntu
[09:06] <Ju1ce> when I type '' or '' they will appear as '' and ''
[09:07] <kbrooks> blueyed, Not 3 answers. "do hardlinks use twice the space? is it wise to hardlink the php-binary into a chrooted chost?" yes, no. copy.
[09:07] <Ju1ce> definitely wrong charset, but how to correct it?
[09:08] <Ju1ce> anyone?
[09:08] <blueyed> kbrooks: thanks. Is it a security issue regaring hardlinks? Because it would make it easier to upgrade every host's php version if they were hard linked.
[09:08] <glick> gmplayer doesnt play shit, not my avi's not my mpegs
[09:08] <glick> wtf
[09:08] <D1> what gnome needs is a GOOD ftp client.
[09:09] <funkyHat> D1, gftp?
[09:09] <blueyed> D1: ftp is evil. Think sftp.
[09:09] <thoreauputic> glick: you have w32codecs installed?
[09:09] <kbrooks> blueyed, Ahhhh. I honestly don't know.
[09:09] <D1> I dont like gftp
[09:09] <D1> no tls support
[09:09] <D1> and doesn't follow the HIG
[09:09] <glick> thoreauputic, yes
[09:09] <kbrooks> blueyed, don't jump on users like that
[09:09] <Ju1ce> my locale is fi_FI.UTF-8@euro
[09:09] <funkyHat> blueyed, what sftp client do you use?
[09:09] <kbrooks> funkyHat, uh
[09:10] <batkins_> what's the easiest way to add a different screen resolution?
[09:10] <blueyed> Konqueror, funkyHat.
[09:10] <kbrooks> funkyHat, ftp servers > sftp servers
[09:10] <nalioth> batkins_: watch ubotu
[09:10] <nalioth> !resolution
[09:10] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:10] <blueyed> D1: sorry, I don't wanted to sound harsh. But FTP is unencrypted, also the passwords.
[09:10] <funkyHat> kbrooks, eh?
[09:10] <batkins_> uboto?
[09:10] <kbrooks> funkyHat, more ftp servers than SFTP servers
[09:11] <thoreauputic> batkins_: ubotu [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <death_to_gates> limewire for linux has to be the best p2p app i have ever used
[09:11] <D1> blueyed, maybe so. but it doesn't stop people from using it.
[09:11] <glick> death_to_gates, gtk-gnutella
[09:11] <funkyHat> ahh, i see, i was just wondering what sftp client blueyed used as i use gftp for sftp access, and he said he didn't like gftp
[09:11] <kbrooks> death_to_gates, aMule is Free and open source. don't use limewire!
[09:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> glick i tryed it it goofed up my box for some reason
[09:12] <kbrooks> uh
[09:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use what works i know it's not open source and that is really really sad
[09:12] <kbrooks> is it true /proc uses 258 mb?
[09:12] <glick> i cant play any of my shit whit mplayer
[09:12] <glick> goddamnit
[09:12] <batkins_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i2hub is the greatest
[09:13] <batkins_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: althought it's more the network than the app itself that makes it so
[09:13] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:13] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how to make a music cd with ubuntu
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i wanna know too
[09:13] <other|study> BiSK-8: use k3b
[09:13] <nickrud> glick, have you tried changing the vo option in /etc/mplayer.conf
[09:13] <to|m> which package i need 2 surf via nautilus?
[09:14] <kbrooks> to|m, NONE.
[09:14] <batkins_> BiSK-8, ChurcH_of_FoamY: k3b
[09:14] <kbrooks> to|m, zero. void. nil.
[09:14] <to|m> kbrooks: ? but it doesn't work
[09:14] <kbrooks> to|m, hoary or warty?
[09:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:14] <funkyHat> other|study, if k3b is a kde app, that's an awkward way to go about it for a beginner ubuntu user
[09:14] <BiSK-8> yep, i have it installed but where can i find it ?
[09:14] <batkins_> funkyHat: why?
[09:14] <to|m> kbrooks: hoary
[09:15] <kbrooks> other|study, k3b looks bad on gnome
[09:15] <IIIEars> gnomebaler is also good
[09:15] <batkins_> BiSK-8: run "k3b" from the shell
[09:15] <other|study> funkyHat: it is..but k3b is the best burnprog for linux...
[09:15] <IIIEars> erm gnomebaker"
[09:15] <kbrooks> other|study, k3b looks bad on gnome
[09:15] <batkins_> kbrooks: it doesn't look that bad, but it is indeed the best there is
[09:15] <other|study> kbrooks: uhu..
[09:15] <D1> I hope gnomebaker rivals k3b one day.
[09:15] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:15] <D1> that app has potential.
[09:15] <BiSK-8> thanks
[09:15] <kbrooks> batkins_, well imo qt and gtk  conflict
[09:15] <batkins_> kbrooks: get over it
[09:16] <to|m> kbrooks: and now?
[09:16] <other|study> kbrooks: i've used k3b on FC3 with Gnome..it doesn't look any different on KDE
[09:16] <kbrooks> batkins_, .....
[09:16] <IIIEars> with rememember "joliet" is the type of CD you want if windows compatibility
[09:16] <other|study> funkyHat: would you rather have me advice to use CLI cdrdao?
[09:16] <batkins_> kbrooks: don't turn down a superior application because it has a different theme than your system
[09:16] <to|m> kbrooks: and now? i have hoary
[09:17] <kbrooks> batkins_, fine fine
[09:17] <funkyHat> batkins_, i turn down k3b because gnomebaker does fine for me, and i'd rather not install any kde components unless i really have to
[09:18] <erikp> can someone tell me how to tell what version of a package I have installed, and how to list it's contents?  the apt-equivalent of rpm -q?
[09:18] <funkyHat> not that i dislike kde, i'd just rather have a consistent UI
[09:18] <HappyFool> erikp: dpkg -s <package-name> lists status info
[09:18] <HappyFool> erikp: to get just the version, try 'dpkg -s <packagename>|grep Version'
[09:18] <kbrooks> funkyHat, same
[09:18] <HappyFool> erikp: to get a list of file, dpkg -L <packagename>
[09:18] <nickrud> erikp, dpkg -L <package> for a file listing
[09:18] <erikp> HappyFool/nickrud: perfect, thanks!
[09:19] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:19] <BiSK-8> it works
[09:19] <drayen> anyone a eclipse don? just installed it and im trying to install some plugins but getting stumped by the install location...
[09:19] <BiSK-8> my cd is burning
[09:19] <BiSK-8> thanks
[09:19] <BiSK-8> bye
[09:20] <djp> what does the ubuntu symbol next to certain packages in synaptic represent?
[09:20] <glick> i need to be able to watch my danm pr0n
[09:21] <other|study> porn.what kind of?
[09:21] <HappyFool> djp: means ubuntu supported - packages in 'main' and 'restricted', afaik
[09:21] <glick> other|study, gmplayer aint playin shit
[09:21] <HappyFool> djp: i think synaptic has a 'legend' under the Help menu
[09:21] <other|study> glick: try vlc then
[09:21] <glick> no i dont want to try some thing else, gmplayer worked fine on my other distro why isnt it working fine here?
[09:22] <other|study> glick: are the files windows media files? have you installed the w32codecs?
[09:22] <glick> other|study, yes i have the w32codecs and no they are mpeg files
[09:22] <other|study> weird
[09:22] <djp> HappyFool: thanks
[09:23] <other|study> man in need SOMEONE HELP GLICK ;)
[09:23] <glick> heh
[09:23] <HappyFool> glick: run mplayer from the command line, see what errors it gives
[09:23] <djp> HappyFool: yes it does! (/me is embarressed now...) ;)
[09:23] <Ju1ce> umm... how to add a locale
[09:23] <glick> HappyFool, no error message really it just stops after this point: alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
[09:23] <glick> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[09:24] <nickrud> Ju1ce, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:24] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[09:25] <subtle> How do I get rid of the "handles" at the end of my gnome toolbars (ie-to achieve total transparency)?
[09:25] <HappyFool> glick: but nothing works at all? and when you say 'stops' -- it returns to the command prompt?
[09:25] <nickrud> glick, try using ao=esd when you call mplayer
[09:25] <pho> hi
[09:25] <glick> HappyFool, no it does not return to the commandline
[09:25] <Ju1ce> finally someone said something wise. Thanks.
[09:25] <raven3x7> hi again
[09:26] <^DodGeR^> right clcik the bar subtle , proeprties, show hide buttons must be off
[09:26] <glick> Unknown option on the command line: ao=esd
[09:26] <HappyFool> glick: hmm. ao=esd works here
[09:27] <glick> HappyFool, how do yo call it?
[09:27] <glick> whats the command?
[09:27] <HappyFool> glick: i get a constantly updated status thingy when it plays a movie
[09:27] <HappyFool> mplayer ao=esd merry_melodies_falling_hare_256kb.mp4
[09:27] <glick> nope i get the same damn thing
[09:27] <HappyFool> hmm
[09:28] <HappyFool> how'd you install mplayer?
[09:28] <glick> HappyFool, through apt
[09:28] <raven3x7> is there a way to lock access to the comp without logging out? i want to keep all the apps running but if someone wants to use the comp they need to use the password like the password feature in screensavers for windowz
[09:28] <subtle> Yes (show hide buttons) is off, but there are still handles on each side...
[09:28] <kbrooks> raven3x7, yes
[09:28] <nickrud> raven3x7, on the top menu bar, System-Lock Screen
[09:28] <kbrooks> raven3x7, if you are on warty
[09:28] <kbrooks> er
[09:29] <kbrooks> hoary
[09:29] <pho> i have a problem to connect with security.ubuntu.com when i want to install some packages...  is it down atm or is it my ubuntu that is crap? :)
[09:29] <raven3x7> yeah im in hoary
[09:29] <kbrooks> system -> lock screen
[09:29] <Kosai> Hello.  Can anyone tell me whether the hoary installer is going to be able to resize the OS X partition on my iBook, please?
[09:29] <raven3x7> thanks both of ya
[09:30] <HappyFool> glick: what mplayer package did you install? I have mplayer-386, it appears
[09:30] <glick> mplayer-586
[09:30] <subtle> mplayer has been freezing for me - every time.
[09:30] <HappyFool> glick: ok, what does 'dpkg -s mplayer-586|grep Version' say?
[09:30] <z|bandito> 3:-0
[09:31] <raven3x7> my mplayer wont do dvds
[09:31] <LD> atlas95: I got it working :D
[09:31] <pho> so... do i have to reinstall my ubuntu again?
[09:31] <thor|afk> Kosai: I think not - at least I used the OSX tool on the install disk to make an OSX part and a free space part
[09:31] <glick> HappyFool,  Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[09:32] <to|m> which package i need 2 surf via nautilus?  (hoary)
[09:32] <raven3x7> pho what exactly is wrong?
[09:32] <HappyFool> glick: same as mine. puzzling
[09:32] <thor|afk> Kosai: you probably have to reinstall OS-X I fear, if you want dual boot
[09:33] <HappyFool> glick: it seems to ignore ao=esd anyway, afaict
[09:33] <Ju1ce> do i have to reboot after changing my locale settings fot the changes to make effect
[09:33] <pho> haha... suddenly it runs xD
[09:33] <HappyFool> glick: oh! File not found: 'ao=esd'
[09:34] <^DodGeR^> nite all
[09:34] <raven3x7> pho xD?
[09:34] <HappyFool> glick: try this: 'mplayer -ao esd <filename>'   --- no '='
[09:34] <JDahl> I was helping someone here last night trying to get openafs working, and I then later found out that an up-to-date version of openafs-client has entered debian unstable... is that likely to be included in Breezy?
[09:34] <Belutz> HappyFool: i just add backport repositories, after i reload the package, it alert me for some update, should I update from backports?
[09:35] <HappyFool> Belutz: i'm not sure; which package?
[09:35] <Belutz> HappyFool: like gaim, a lot of lib packages and xchat
[09:35] <glick> HappyFool, cool :) thanks
[09:35] <pho> this is so buggy :/
[09:36] <HappyFool> Belutz: hmm. i wouldn't install gaim or xchat from backports, unless you really need the latest versions
[09:36] <HappyFool> glick: it's working?
[09:36] <Belutz> HappyFool: what about the lib* packages? is it safe?
[09:36] <nickrud> Belutz, no, just get the libdvdcss or whatever, then uncheck backports again
[09:36] <glick> HappyFool, yea
[09:36] <HappyFool> Belutz: err, i don't know that one
[09:36] <HappyFool> glick: cool
[09:36] <Belutz> nickrud: ok thx
[09:37] <Belutz> HappyFool: :)
[09:37] <glick> i can watch my porn again :)
[09:37] <HappyFool> glick: i think you can fiddle /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to set the output to esd 'permanently'
[09:37] <pho> geat
[09:37] <nickrud> Belutz, it would be best to just do sudo apt-get install libdvdcss from the command line
[09:37] <Belutz> btw, can i share mbox from thunderbird with evolution?
[09:38] <other|study> nickrud: shouldn't it be libdvdcss2 ?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> nickrud: I think it's libdvdcss2 now
[09:38] <Belutz> nickrud: yup.. i already installed it and dvd movies are working, and the sound is working too now :)
[09:38] <Kosai> thoreauputic: Hm, thanks.
[09:39] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I don't have a dvd, so it doesn' trip of my tongue, I just knew from earlier what he wanted
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Kosai: you could google for "hfs + resize " I guess
[09:39] <joakim> Ubuntu gives me a hard on
[09:39] <nickrud> Belutz, no, no sharing of mboxes, but you can use dovecot-imapd to maintain a mail store both can use
[09:40] <thoreauputic> nickrud: yeah, I was being my usual painful pedantic self  ;-)
[09:40] <joakim> Really
[09:40] <thoreauputic> joakim: seek therapy ;)
[09:40] <joakim> Never :D
[09:40] <nickrud> heh, in this room, pedanticism is a useful trait :)
[09:40] <bddebian> haha
[09:40] <Belutz> nickrud: actually i'm POP-ing from gmail, is it possible to use that dovecot-imapd ?
[09:41] <nickrud> Belutz, I would think so, I pop from my net email account and drop it where dovecot can see it
[09:42] <nickrud> well, I have been, I haven't set it up on this machine yet
[09:42] <Belutz> nickrud: ok, let me try it
[09:42] <nickrud> *channel *blush
[09:43] <Evil> hello all
[09:43] <pho> hi
[09:43] <Evil> how can i downgrade X please
[09:44] <Belutz> nickrud: on second thought, maybe i just use thunderbird and uninstall evolution
[09:44] <DAWKIRST> Hi. I was workin in OpenOffice on a html document. I saved and closed. Now I can't access any of the links on my desktop. The error message is: There was an error launching the application. Any suggestions?
[09:44] <HappyFool> Evil: what have you upgraded to?
[09:45] <nickrud> Belutz :)
[09:45] <Belutz> nickrud: btw, what's the different between 'removal' and 'complete removal' ? is 'removal' doesn't clean all the files?
[09:46] <DAWKIRST> And how can I see which proccesses are currently running?
[09:46] <thr1ce> DAWKIRST: run ps aux or top
[09:46] <Evil> i have the latest but i want to go back to the 6.8.2-35 HappyFool
[09:46] <JDahl> bob2, what are the chances of openafs 1.3.82 (http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openafs.html) making it into Breezy, possibly in universe?
[09:46] <DAWKIRST> Weird, my terminal won't open.
[09:48] <kbrooks> JDahl, bob2 doesnt 'know it all'
[09:48] <thoreauputic> JDahl: my guess is bob2 is still asleep :)
[09:48] <HappyFool> Evil: hmm. i'm guessing something as simple as 'apt-get install xserver-xorg=6.8.2-35' doesn't work?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Mon Jul 18 05:48:14 EST 2005
[09:48] <JDahl> kbrooks, worth a try :)
[09:48] <thoreauputic> kinda early in bob2 part of the world
[09:48] <poningru> its 1548 here
[09:49] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: so he's making *his* problems *ours* ? shocking.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yeah, we should speak sternly to him about sleeping: just not acceptabl behaviour ;)
[09:49] <Evil> not found
[09:50] <ray_> any of u guys know of a good dvd ripper?
[09:50] <HappyFool> Evil: doh. anyway, i'm not really clued up on breezy -- that was just a guess
[09:51] <[2] BoxingFiend> ray_: try dvd::rip
[09:52] <ray_> [2] BoxingFiend: is that something i can apt?
[09:52] <frankie> does anyone know how to configure a linksys wireless-b notebook adapter?
[09:55] <febeling> has anybody ruby on rails with apache and fastcgi running?
[09:55] <febeling> i only want to know if its possible...
[09:56] <DAWKIRST> Whenever I try to launch something from my desktop an error message occurs telling me that it can't find the location.
[09:57] <kbrooks> febeling, #ruby-lang
[09:57] <ermac`> does anyone know how i can run the photoshop installer with wine?
[09:57] <febeling> ok
[09:57] <IIIEars> ubotu mgetty
[09:57] <ubotu> I don't know, IIIEars
[09:58] <IIIEars> ubotu modem
[09:58] <ubotu> IIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:58] <IIIEars> ubotu vgetty
[09:58] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[09:58] <DAWKIRST> Anyone?
[09:59] <black-whisp> anyone got a simple way to get win codecs for ubuntu?
[09:59] <JDahl> DAWKIRST, you need the enter the full path.. a bit cumbersome
[09:59] <synd> !restricted
[09:59] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:59] <thr1ce> DAWKIRST: what did you do right before this started?
[09:59] <synd> black-whisp, goto that URL
[09:59] <IIIEars> DAWKIRST - i am really new i would try to launch it from a terminal to eliminate permission errors
[09:59] <black-whisp> synd: thx
[10:00] <IIIEars> If that works you know it is a problem with user status
[10:00] <DAWKIRST> thr1ce, I worked in OpenOffice on a html document, saved it, closed it, and then it started.
[10:00] <RexKwonDo> I have a tungsten E and I was wondering how to make it sync with ubuntu.  Any https I should go gaze upon?
[10:01] <IIIEars> man strace will give you hints as to what might be wrong. - unfortuneatly i don't have your answer.
[10:03] <IIIEars> << - 13 weeks with linux - Yaay! :)
[10:04] <IIIEars> !pim
[10:04] <ubotu> IIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:04] <itm> Ihave joined ubuntu as of midnight last night - it is the first time I've felt comfortable with my computer since the mid 80ies
[10:04] <HappyFool> IIIEars: 13 weeks and you've used strace? impressive ;)
[10:04] <raven3x7> hmm rythmbox is somewhat unstable
[10:05] <fr500> what is strace?
[10:05] <RexKwonDo> that's like saying Mike Tyson is a bit troubled
[10:05] <thoreauputic> raven3x7: a masterfull understatement :)
[10:05] <raven3x7> lma
[10:05] <HappyFool> system call trace -- lets you see what system calls an application is making
[10:05] <raven3x7> lmao
[10:05] <fr500> oh
[10:05] <fr500> ok
[10:05] <DAWKIRST> thr1ce, any suggestions?
[10:05] <Whistler> is there any tools for mp3 reencoding?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Whistler: lame ?
[10:06] <Petrov> hello
[10:07] <Petrov> were can i find ftp servers?
[10:07] <kbrooks> Petrov, for what?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Whistler: have you tried "audacity" ? Quite a nice sound editing app...
[10:08] <imaek> Does anyone know of a linux image organizer like iPhoto, but specifically one where I can view a directory of images in sequential order
[10:08] <Petrov> for everthing
[10:08] <Whistler> ok ill try
[10:08] <thoreauputic> imaek: gqview
[10:08] <La_PaRCa> imaek, gthumb
[10:08] <fr500> imaek, may not work for you but i use folders
[10:08] <fr500> :p
[10:08] <fr500> and gthumb
[10:09] <Petrov> kbrooks, for Everything
[10:09] <La_PaRCa> Petrov, everything what?
[10:10] <glick> thats cool iraqilinux.org
[10:10] <HappyFool> Petrov: do you want to run an ftp server, or do you want to download something from an ftp server?
[10:10] <kbrooks> Petrov, there's no SINGLE ftp server FOR everything
[10:10] <Petrov> I look for ftp server for games, mp3, linux , ...
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Petrov: can you reduce the set size slightly from " The Whole Universe" ? *grin*
[10:10] <rgould> Interesting - I am trying to copy files to a USB drive, but Nautilus thinks the drive is full, but I can copy them fine using command line
[10:11] <Discipulus> rgould, then use the command line?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Petrov: you want to "run" a server, or find servers to get stuff from ?
[10:11] <Petrov> find servers
[10:11] <Discipulus> thoreauputic, He is looking...
[10:11] <JDahl> thoreauputic, I think he asking for the "warez" repository...
[10:11] <rgould> Discipulus, looks like I have to, but nautilus is more convenient. I guess I could copy them all to one directoy and use the command line to copy them all over from there.
[10:11] <HappyFool> archive.ubuntu.com has 1337 linux warez
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Petrov: google is your friend ...
[10:12] <Petrov> :p
[10:12] <Discipulus> rgould, command line is much more powerful :-P
[10:12] <HappyFool> rgould: maybe the entire fileset selected is more than the free space?
[10:12] <rgould> of course, but it less convenient for browsing a large directory structure
[10:13] <rgould> HappyFool, that's what I thought at first, but the same operation succeeds on the command line where it doesn't in nautilus
[10:13] <HappyFool> rgould: hm. ok, i give up ;)
[10:13] <rgould> yeah, it struck me as weird
[10:14] <[v2hja] > hello :D
[10:14] <HappyFool> bedtime for me. good night!
[10:15] <sJaM> gtg
[10:15] <sJaM> cu
[10:15] <Discipulus> is there a good dos emulator for linux?
[10:15] <hybrid_goth> everyone leaving?
[10:15] <hybrid_goth> Discipulus: dosbox
[10:15] <wasabi> Hey. I'm trying to get a gameport joystick working.
[10:15] <kbrooks> no
[10:15] <hybrid_goth> Discipulus: if it runs on linux i dont remember
[10:15] <wasabi> How do I get udev to create the device node, and the driver to see it?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Discipulus: apt-cache show dosemu
[10:16] <rgould> doh! It didn't actually copy it properly. and it is refusing to copy any further, even though I have deleted plenty files on the usb-drive
[10:16] <Discipulus> thoreauputic, thx
[10:16] <rgould> Is there anything I have to setup to support usb-drives properly?
[10:17] <hybrid_goth> rgould: is it mounting
[10:17] <rgould> yeah
[10:17] <Raskall> rgould: should work with hotplug without any configuration
[10:17] <rgould> i can read from it just fine, but it is reporting only 3.2 MB
[10:17] <[v2hja] > hello ..... so ..... here is yet another problem ......... http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kettad1dg.jpg .......... i would like to shrik linux part down to 9 gigs ........ how can i do it ?
[10:17] <rgould> which is what it had when I first mounted it - I deleted files and remounted it
[10:17] <rgould> and it is still reporting 3.2 MB free
[10:17] <hybrid_goth> rgould: warty hoary or breezy?
[10:17] <rgould> hoary
[10:17] <moZer> i want to rebuild a deb package from debian unstable, so i figured i run "apt-get -d source foo" to get a rebuildable package...but i'm wading through google and man pages of dpkg and friends, but i can't find any way to rebuild what i got from the apt operation: a .dsc file, a gzipped diff and the original sources
[10:18] <raven3x7> need to get some sleep
[10:18] <raven3x7> bye
[10:18] <[v2hja] > what can i do
[10:18] <[v2hja] > part magic wont let me resize
[10:18] <[v2hja] > and mepis live cd says the drive is buzy
[10:18] <zaudragon> wow Ubuntu is cool :D
[10:19] <Raskall> [v2hja] : parted or qtparted
[10:19] <Raskall> [v2hja] : qtparted is in universe
[10:19] <kbrooks> Raskall, OR
[10:19] <kbrooks> Raskall, OR
[10:19] <kbrooks> Raskall, OR
[10:19] <kbrooks> gparted
[10:19] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: gparted is parted
[10:19] <Raskall> kbrooks: ok.. didn't know that exeisted
[10:19] <kbrooks> no
[10:20] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: like gcc is cc
[10:20] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, wrong
[10:20] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: how?
[10:20] <kbrooks> gparted is GUI
[10:20] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: man them
[10:20] <[v2hja] > root@ubuntu:/home/v2hja # gparted
[10:20] <[v2hja] > bash: gparted: command not found
[10:20] <pho> again i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com....
[10:20] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: o_0 so is qtparted
[10:20] <[v2hja] > qtparted wont run in gnome ........ :S
[10:20] <[v2hja] > i belive its kde only
[10:20] <aru> you have to install the gparted package
[10:20] <hybrid_goth> pho: hoary?
[10:20] <Raskall> [v2hja] : then gparted. I guess gparted is just parted and qtparted with a gnome gui.
[10:21] <kbrooks> Raskall, no
[10:21] <hybrid_goth> [v2hja] : qtparted ran in gnome for me and xfce
[10:21] <kbrooks> Raskall, gparted is qtparted with a GTK gui
[10:21] <kbrooks> "gimp toolkit"
[10:21] <[v2hja] > can i resize the part that linux runs at the moment ?
[10:21] <Raskall> kbrooks: potato potato
[10:21] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: i appologize
[10:22] <Raskall> [v2hja] : try? if not, run from the livecd.
[10:22] <Sionide> http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/  <- uhh.. wow, coolest keyboard ever
[10:22] <[v2hja] > sionide
[10:22] <Ju1ce> when i try compile a program, i get an error that libxext is not installed
[10:22] <[v2hja] > wait a sec
[10:22] <kbrooks> Raskall, gparted is similar to partition magic
[10:22] <[v2hja] > i modded it a bit :D
[10:22] <hybrid_goth> Sionide: have you seen the DAS kb?
[10:22] <Sionide> hybrid_goth, nah, link ?
[10:22] <pho> hybrid_goth: its 5.04
[10:22] <Ju1ce> but when i apt-get intall libext, it claims that libxext is the newest version available
[10:23] <hybrid_goth> Sionide: daskeyboard.com it has no letters
[10:23] <pho> hybrid_goth: dunno if hoary or woary or whatelse
[10:23] <hybrid_goth> pho: hmmm..
[10:23] <Raskall> kbrooks: so is qtparted. i guess all *parted is parted with some kind of gui.
[10:23] <hybrid_goth> pho: hoary
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Ju1ce: look for -dev packages when compiling
[10:23] <Sionide> hybrid_goth, ah yeah rubbish - a mate of mine just scratched all the letters off his and on mine, well i've used it so much the letters are rubbing off anyway! :P
[10:23] <Ju1ce> i have installed libxext-dev 2
[10:23] <pho> hybrid_goth: yes.. i looked it up
[10:23] <[v2hja] > Sionide, http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutcopy7fr.jpg <- i guess alt key would have alot attention :D
[10:24] <kbrooks> Raskall, yes
[10:24] <hybrid_goth> Sionide: yea but it is way cool. i wont buy it!
[10:24] <pho> hybrid_goth: is it normal that it makes so much trouble?
[10:24] <[v2hja] > 200-300 bucks
[10:24] <Sionide> haha
[10:24] <Sionide> yeah
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Ju1ce: what are you trying to compile?
[10:24] <Sionide> cheaper than a brand new cell phone, but.. it's a keyboard so wtf!
[10:24] <Ju1ce> amarok 1.3 beta 2
[10:24] <hybrid_goth> pho: i dont understand your question
[10:24] <Raskall> is breezy usable now, by the way?
[10:25] <hybrid_goth> no!
[10:25] <hybrid_goth> Raskall: X is broken
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Ju1ce: is there some feature you need? amarok is available in ubuntu
[10:25] <Raskall> hybrid_goth: ok.
[10:25] <aru> I would late for a release announcement instead of asking daily :)
[10:25] <aru> wait even
[10:25] <hybrid_goth> Raskall: unless you are like me and prefer CLI. the X doesnt bother me :P
[10:25] <Ju1ce> yes, I have amaroK 1.2, but I want 1.3 :P
[10:25] <hybrid_goth> aru: heh
[10:26] <pho> hybrid_goth: the problem is that when i install something by using the ubunut servers...mostly it doesnt connect to security.ubuntu.com server...
[10:26] <Raskall> hybrid_goth: :) I embrase progress, so I have adopted gui applications on desktops.
[10:26] <[v2hja] > http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutcopy7fr.jpg ----- this would actually pwn ....... and in the future ......... we will have popups on keyboard ...... all keys would suddenly disapear on there would be a large cock boning some pussy and some realy nasty text too :D
[10:26] <pho> hybrid_goth: this is really bullshit
[10:26] <Raskall> hybrid_goth: but I am fluent in CLI. Work a lot via ssh from out of the house, so cli is nice to know.
[10:27] <hybrid_goth> Raskall: i love cli more resources
[10:27] <hybrid_goth> pho: what is?
[10:27] <Raskall> hybrid_goth: my laptop has enough resources anyways. 2 gigs mem 1.7 ghz pentium M and sata disk.
[10:28] <hybrid_goth> Raskall: mine doesnt. what about cli progress thats what i want
[10:28] <pho> hybrid_goth: there is this installation programm for adding new software... it partly cant connect to the servers for downloading the packages
[10:28] <hybrid_goth> Raskall: links let me use gui browsing
[10:28] <hybrid_goth> pho: it maybe that the server is down
[10:29] <aru> I thought I heard someone say earlier that there is a problem with US servers today
[10:29] <hybrid_goth> kbrooks: u still here
[10:29] <pho> hybrid_goth: i thought so... but this is crap!
[10:29] <glick> why dont the big ass companies like IBM and compaq and hp donate some hardware to iraq for christsake?
[10:29] <Raskall> hybrid_goth: I guess.. but still, web browsing is best with graphics, imho. But when I am hooked up via gprs/edge I turn off image loading.
[10:29] <hybrid_goth> aru: if you have a bad md5sum
[10:29] <knowledge_> Guys, I need help....I keep having to do sudo modprobe i8k and it won't save it
[10:29] <knowledge_> and my wifi isn't working
[10:30] <knowledge_> all because I patched my kernel
[10:30] <aru> hybrid_goth: thanks for not making sense :)
[10:30] <glick> maybe set up free wi-fi in baghdad and get these people connected
[10:30] <knowledge_> with another driver
[10:30] <kbrooks> knowledge_, add i7k to /etc/modules
[10:30] <kbrooks> i8k*
[10:30] <Raskall> knowledge_: add "i8k" to the file /etc/modules
[10:30] <hybrid_goth> aru: the us servers dont work if your md5sum is invalid
[10:30] <aru> there you go
[10:30] <kbrooks> hybrid_goth, no
[10:30] <pho> hybrid_goth: but much severe is that my internet connection sucks after rebooting the system... that means i have to reinstall the whole ubuntu to open webpages and use messengers and stuff...
[10:30] <knowledge_> kbrooks, Raskall, and as for my wifi card?
[10:30] <[v2hja] > glick, connected .... for what ? ----- so they would organice and be more dangerous to the us forces and to the world
[10:30] <kbrooks> knowledge_, model>?
[10:31] <Raskall> knowledge_: I thought you did the modprobe thing for your wifi card. has your wifi card ever worked?
[10:31] <glick> maybe if we actually did something constructive there, the insurgents would stop fighting us
[10:31] <kbrooks> pho, no.
[10:31] <glick> [v2hja] , the insurgents are a minority
[10:31] <knowledge_> Atheros AR5211
[10:31] <hybrid_goth> pho: this isnt windows
[10:31] <knowledge_> it worked before I patched my kernel with the alps touchpad driver
[10:31] <Raskall> knowledge_: ok.. you need the madwifi drivers.
[10:31] <glick> [v2hja] , most people are just poor bastards who wanna live their lives
[10:31] <pho> hybrid_goth: i know :)
[10:32] <knowledge_> Raskall, yes, it did work before I patched that kernel
[10:32] <aru> glick: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <pho> hybrid_goth: so.. it have to work far better...
[10:32] <[v2hja] > wifi is the last thing they need
[10:32] <Raskall> knowledge_: you have to get madwifi into your homebrew kernel somehow
[10:32] <[v2hja] > food and water and medicine is more needed than fucking internet
[10:32] <knowledge_> so I have to redo everything I did and add the wifi drivers?
[10:32] <glick> [v2hja] , most universities there dont even have email that connect students and staff
[10:32] <Raskall> knowledge_: but I cannot tell you how. I just read somewhere that atheros use madwifi.
[10:32] <pho> kbrook: u have a solution for that? its driving me crazy...
[10:33] <knowledge_> mann, the only reason I did it was because it was a quick how to...I'm not too comand line inclined
[10:33] <kbrooks> pho: for?
[10:33] <yahalom> anyone here have ubuntu looking like mac os x?
[10:34] <knowledge_> ok what needs to be done after I mess with make menuconfig?
[10:34] <knowledge_> someone told me to recompile my kernel
[10:34] <knowledge_> but I have no clue how
[10:34] <Munkus> does anybode have experiences in running ubuntu on a acer travelmate 800 ?
[10:34] <pho> kbrooks: my internet connection only works directly after installing ubuntu...
[10:34] <thoreauputic> yahalom: yeah, I just run mac-on-linux ;)
[10:34] <Raskall> knowledge_: what made you compile your own kernel?
[10:34] <knowledge_> Alps Touchpad drivers
[10:34] <knowledge_> for my laptop
[10:34] <yahalom> thoreauputic, i mean the theme. u use a mac os x theme?
[10:35] <knowledge_> there was a how to on the ubuntu forums
[10:35] <pho> kbrooks: after restart browsers messenger cant find the way to the www
[10:35] <thoreauputic> yahalom: heh - no I use fluxbox :)
[10:35] <yahalom> thoreauputic, any idea how i can get a mac os x type top bar?
[10:35] <Raskall> knowledge_: agh.. that much work for a sucky way to control your mouse. :) When I had the same problem I bought a tiny optical travel mouse.
[10:35] <kbrooks> pho: i know why
[10:35] <Raskall> knowledge_: and disabled the touchpad in bios
[10:35] <pho> kbrooks: though i can install from the ubuntu servers
[10:35] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: how does flux look?
[10:35] <pho> kbrooks: great!
[10:35] <kbrooks> pho: system > adminstration > networking
[10:36] <thoreauputic> yahalom: if you mean the functionality I think KDE has something similar
[10:36] <yahalom> thoreauputic, on gnome.
[10:36] <Raskall> what do I have to apt-get to get the development tools and headers in?
[10:36] <ishkabob> hey all, i was hoping someone might help with a gftp problem?
[10:36] <knowledge_> Raskall, the funnier thing is every thing was working fine I just wanted the extra features.....
[10:36] <yahalom> thoreauputic, i saw it done on gnome.
[10:36] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: well, flux looks any way you want it, really
[10:36] <dylan_> is there a sure-fire way to remove GNOME?
[10:36] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: i have xfce should is it less consuming?
[10:36] <pho> kbrooks: what now?
[10:36] <hybrid_goth> dylan_: apt-remove gnome
[10:37] <kbrooks> dylan_, pho: wizard pop up?
[10:37] <kbrooks> er
[10:37] <kbrooks> pho: wizard pop up?
[10:37] <kbrooks> dylan_, n/m
[10:37] <knowledge_> so no one knows what I should do?
[10:37] <pho> kbrooks: a window... dont know whats a wizard...
[10:37] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: flux uses less resources, yes - but the hoary fluxbox has an issue with fonts so I compiled mine with -disable-xmb to fix it
[10:37] <pho> kbrooks: ethernet connection....
[10:37] <aru> I'd go ahead and leave gnome, it really enchances the desktop :)
[10:37] <kbrooks> pho: well , i got a wizard3 pop up
[10:37] <dylan_> apt-get remove gnome does not work
[10:38] <glick> hybrid_goth, xfce4 is nice
[10:38] <kbrooks> pho: deactivate eth0
[10:38] <pho> kbrooks: well ... the ethernet card is configured... and it works atm... but it wont work when i restart again...
[10:38] <knowledge_> Raskall, if I do the wifi thing....will I lose my alps driver?
[10:38] <knowledge_> or am i just adding?
[10:38] <pho> kbrooks: k
[10:38] <kbrooks> The connection, to be exact.
[10:39] <kbrooks> pho: reeactivate
[10:39] <hybrid_goth> glick: yes xfce is nice but i am bored with it
[10:40] <Raskall> knowledge_: you just add. But I am not sure if madwifi is included in the kernel source. check madwifi.sourceforge.net or something. maybe you can just download and "make install" the drivers on your running kernel
[10:40] <knowledge_> Raskall, thanks
[10:41] <kevin> knowledge: 1 min I have a link for you
[10:41] <ishkabob> hey does anyone know anything about gftp?
[10:41] <hybrid_goth> well everyone i got to go
[10:41] <hybrid_goth> be back later
[10:41] <glick> hybrid_goth, bored with it?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> ishkabob: rephrasing your question might be an idea, methinks ;)
[10:42] <Raskall> knowledge_: you can try asking at #madwifi irc channel here on freenode too.
[10:42] <ishkabob> hehe, ok
[10:42] <funkyHat> ishkabob, just ask :P
[10:42] <ishkabob> heres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP works great.  Any idea
[10:43] <ishkabob> it seems like some weird configuration or something
[10:43] <kevin> knowledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41670
[10:43] <Raskall> ishkabob: tried any other ftp clients?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> ishkabob: I have a feeling gftp wasn't compiled with sftp support for Ubuntu - I may be wrong
[10:43] <kevin> Raskall: that link is how I got my madwifi working
[10:43] <ishkabob> hmmmm, that coule be
[10:43] <funkyHat> oh, that's rather annoying
[10:44] <funkyHat> i was counting on using that once i get my server back online
[10:44] <ishkabob> i have tried the sftp protocol in nautilus
[10:44] <ishkabob> that works fine
[10:44] <ishkabob> i would like for her to use gFTP just because it looks nice and is easier
[10:44] <Raskall> ishkabob: sftp and ftp is not the same protocol
[10:44] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: I use sftp gftp from an ubuntu
[10:45] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: but it is not to an ubuntu box.... however...
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Raskall: I think he knows that
[10:45] <Raskall> ishkabob: what is wrong with making a bookmark to the site in nautilus? nautilus is as nice and easy as gftp
[10:46] <Raskall> well.. I have to call it a night.. getting up in 5 hours again.
[10:46] <MrMo> Why does USB  have to be such a pita?
[10:47] <ermac`> why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?
[10:47] <tfort> anyone know why i would be getting a seg fault when i try and go into quicktime's trailers?
[10:47] <MrMo> Why does my USB 2.0 card turn up as a 4 port ehci_hcd AND as 2 2port uhci_hcds?
[10:48] <KB2000> anybody know a good channel for asking about C# problems?
[10:48] <ermac`> why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?
[10:48] <MrMo> KB2000, irc://irc.gnome.org/mono ? maybe?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> KB2000: umm... try #C#
[10:49] <thoreauputic> KB2000: 66 people in there now
[10:49] <KB2000> nice
[10:49] <KB2000> thanks
[10:49] <ishkabob> maybe i should clarify the fact that i'm using the ssh2 part of gFTP
[10:49] <ishkabob> which i'm relatively sure uses sftp
[10:50] <ishkabob> so perhaps its compiled differently for ubuntu than it is for debian
[10:50] <ishkabob> or other systems
[10:50] <tfort> whats the problem ishkabob
[10:50] <ishkabob> (13:42:24) ishkabob: heres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP w
[10:50] <ishkabob> im using the ssh2 part of gftp
[10:50] <tfort> she is using port 22 right?
[10:50] <tfort> cuz it defaults to 21
[10:51] <thoreauputic> ah, good point
[10:51] <ishkabob> hmmmm, i don't think she specifies a port
[10:51] <tfort> make her put in 22
[10:51] <ishkabob> ok
[10:51] <black-whisp> how do you make a shortcut for a folder????
[10:52] <ermac`> why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?
[10:52] <tfort> black-whisper, you mean link it?
[10:52] <tfort> ln -s?
[10:52] <ishkabob> i still wonder why it works in debian and not in ubuntu
[10:52] <tfort> or... something like that
[10:52] <ishkabob> cause i don't specify a port in debian either
[10:52] <black-whisp> okay.. :P
[10:52] <tfort> is it working?
[10:52] <doonz> hey guys you know when you shut down it offers to save your desktop how do i remove that saved desktop
[10:52] <tfort> black-whisp, hold up
[10:52] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: in the bar accross the top of gftp the ssh2 option defaults to port 22
[10:52] <thr1ce> rm .gnome2?
[10:52] <ksmurf> here's a noob question.  I want to change my drives from Fat32 and Ext3 to Reiser or Reiser4 .... is there a way to convert
[10:52] <ishkabob> ah i see
[10:53] <ishkabob> so then thats not the problem
[10:53] <thr1ce> @ doonz
[10:53] <tfort> iskabob, did she try it and it didnt work?
[10:53] <ishkabob> no, she is not by her computer, iwill have to wait til later to ask
[10:53] <ishkabob> hmm, wait one second though
[10:53] <ishkabob> i might be able to try it myself
[10:53] <tfort> cuz i switched to ssh2 and i couldn't connect to my edu's sftp unless i did that
[10:54] <ishkabob> well seh can connect, its just that she can't download anything
[10:54] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: look in options, try setting the preserve file permissions off(uncheked) or have you already tried that?
[10:54] <tfort> ishkabob, ohhhh
[10:54] <tfort> what are the priv on it?
[10:55] <tfort> make the group ownership users
[10:55] <tfort> hehe
[10:55] <ishkabob> ooh no, havent tried that
[10:55] <tfort> that should work
[10:55] <tfort> if she is of course in the group users
[10:55] <ksmurf> also if i made a proggie say " ping -i3 192.168.0.1" saved it as an sh and ./proggie would it work or would I have to run it in termianl?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> tfort: which by default in Ubuntu or debian she wouldn't be, BTW
[10:57] <ishkabob> so i chould change the files to group ownership?
[10:57] <ksmurf> anyone?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: you would need it to be exeutable, and have first line #! /bin/bash
[10:57] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: just the ones you want her to see.... not the thoer shuff <wink>
[10:58] <thoreauputic> *executable
[10:58] <OdiiN> anyone knows how to configure Konversation and firestarter to be able to resume dcc download ? ( i'm bellow a router)
[10:59] <OdiiN> *behind :P
[10:59] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: and as it stands you'd run it in a terminal anyway - so it would be easier to make an alias instead
[11:02] <ishkabob> how do i go about changing a file to group ownership
[11:02] <ishkabob> right now, its owned by me
[11:02] <fortysixand2> a file can only have one owner, I think
[11:03] <ksmurf> thoreauputic alias?
[11:05] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: I believe the default behaviour in the home dir is that files have owner=pietro, group=pietro ,others....
[11:05] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: in ~/.bashrc, put a line in aliases like alias myping='your command here'
[11:05] <fortysixand2> I have one - alias la='ls -la'
[11:05] <JingleBells> i've just installed ubunto, my first attempt at using linux, and I notice that the firefox version is 1.0.2 (which is actually 1.0.4 apparently) the latest version, yet the latest version is 1.0.5, how do I go about installing this?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> where 'your command here ' is your particular ping command
[11:06] <tritium> JingleBells, it's not currently available as a .deb package for ubuntu
[11:06] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: change the group to users and all users can RWX(however you have it set up...
[11:06] <ishkabob> RWX ?
[11:06] <knowledge_> well the guys over at madwifi were no help
[11:07] <fortysixand2> read write execute
[11:07] <knowledge_> anyone else know why this happened
[11:07] <JingleBells> so theres no way of installing it from the file on the mozilla homepage
[11:07] <knowledge_> ?
[11:07] <ishkabob> ah
[11:07] <thoreauputic> pietro_spina: umm... users are not by default in "users" on debian distros
[11:07] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: the other alternative is to give the "others" category elevated permissions...
[11:07] <pietro_spina> thoron: ahhh, did not know that...
[11:07] <fortysixand2> I think you can do that, JingleBells
[11:07] <fortysixand2> but I prefer to wait until the package is in the repos
[11:08] <pietro_spina> thoreauputic: oops
[11:08] <tritium> JingleBells, you can do that, but I'd recommend not installing it in a system directory.
[11:08] <tritium> other than perhaps under /usr/local somewhere
[11:09] <funkyHat> JingleBells, why do you need 1.0.5?
[11:09] <ishkabob> yeah, i gave the others category RWX, and it still doesn't work
[11:09] <funkyHat> (yes, guys, i think having the up to date version would be nice too :P)
[11:09] <toxickore> hi, how do i force a package to be removed with apt?
[11:10] <ishkabob> which is weird, because when the Others category has just Read permission, gFTP works fine from a debian machine, just not an Ubuntu machine
[11:10] <JingleBells> i like to have the latest version of software installed
[11:10] <crazy2k> How can I speed up Ubuntu's initialazation process?
[11:11] <fortysixand2> JingleBells:  try gentoo if you want the latest & greatest
[11:11] <Servo888> Besides the lt-modem module what was that other module (had something to do with serial) that looked like ls-modem (or something). Still for winmomdems, just the serial portion
[11:11] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: but you don't really want to elevate the others category... try adding her username to the users group(if it exists) and try that way.
[11:11] <La_PaRCa> crazy2k, stop all the services you dont need from loading on startup.
[11:11] <ishkabob> i don't think the users group does exist
[11:11] <ishkabob> abd'
[11:11] <crazy2k> La_PaRCa, where can I see a list of them or something?
[11:11] <tritium> JingleBells, every six months ubuntu has a new release.  It never gets very far behind.
[11:12] <ishkabob> and, even if it did, i elevated the others categories and it still doesn't work, so i'm skeptical as to whether that would do anything
[11:12] <blacksky> toxickore, you probably want to use dpkg rather than apt
[11:12] <ishkabob> i don't think the problem is in the file permissions
[11:12] <tritium> crazy2k, /etc/init.d
[11:12] <crazy2k> Thanks.
[11:12] <toxickore> blacksky: yup....
[11:12] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: yeah, I agree
[11:12] <tritium> toxickore, dpkg --purge <packagename>
[11:12] <ksmurf> thoreauputic ok I will add the line myping= command and it will run @ startup?
[11:13] <blacksky> toxickor, dpkg --purge --force-all <packagename> would be a brute force way to do it
[11:13] <La_PaRCa> crazy2k, they are in /etc/rc2.d
[11:13] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: no
[11:13] <JingleBells> well seeing as firefox 1.0.6 is out soon, it seems behind to me, but i'm used to windows where I can update things easier I suppose :)
[11:13] <ishkabob> i honestly think this is a bug in the way that gFTP was compiled for Ubuntu
[11:13] <tritium> ishkabob, don't think so...
[11:13] <toxickore> tritium: thanks
[11:13] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: it will run if you type myping
[11:13] <ishkabob> no?
[11:13] <La_PaRCa> crazy whatever you dont want loaded at startup you remove from the /etc/rc2.d directory
[11:13] <kbrooks> ishkabob, what is?
[11:13] <ishkabob> hold on, let me find the original question
[11:13] <ishkabob> heres the thing. I have set up a user account for a friend on my machine.  I would like for her to access a few files in my home directory.  I'm sure that the permissions are set correctly.  She can ssh into my machine, scp the files, and even use sftp to get the files.  However, gFTP gives her a permission denied problem.  This is a problem i've found happens only on ubuntu machines.  If she ssh's from a debian machine, gFTP works great.  Any idea
[11:13] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: I think you need to clarify what you actually want to do here
[11:13] <ksmurf> thoreauputic ok and so I could put that in startup
[11:13] <tritium> ishkabob, no, if we saw this problem more than once, perhaps, but you're the first case I've seen
[11:14] <crazy2k> La_PaRCa, I have no idea what those files are for. :/
[11:14] <ishkabob> well then perhaps its just something thats different about ubuntu machine, some sort of extra security configuration
[11:14] <crazy2k> I recognize some of them though.
[11:14] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: no, aliases are shell things - if you want something like that to run you need to see the output anyway, don't you?
[11:14] <ishkabob> i ju8st can't think of what would cause this problem
[11:14] <funkyHat> JingleBells, the ubuntu version of firefox has all the security patches from mozilla applied, so it's just as secure, it just doesn't have all the other patches. i haven't personally noticed any differences between ubuntu firefox 1.0.2, and 1.0.5 on windows
[11:15] <blmartin777> has anybody here used sancho for mldonkey
[11:15] <La_PaRCa> crazy2k, those are all the services that load on startup. If you dont know something, either ask or google for it and see if you can remove it.
[11:15] <La_PaRCa> blmartin777, yeah
[11:15] <fortysixand2> I am using 1.0.4, I think from backports
[11:15] <funkyHat> but i agree, i also like having up to date stuff (hint hint, ubuntu devs :P)
[11:15] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: so she can see the files listed but cant download them?
[11:15] <tritium> ishkabob, it's more likely something specific to your setup
[11:15] <ishkabob> yeah, she can see the files, just not download them
[11:15] <blmartin777> is there a ubuntu package for it?
[11:15] <ksmurf> thoreauputic ok I want to ping my router every 2 secs because my wireless is shaky.  I found that typing ping -i 2 192.168.0.1 worked to keep the connection alive.  I want a script that runs in the background to do that for me so I don't have to see the terminal
[11:15] <ishkabob> unless she uses jsut about ANY other method
[11:16] <ishkabob> other than gFTP
[11:16] <fortysixand2> I guess you could make your own .deb.....
[11:16] <blmartin777>  La_PaRCa:  is there a ubuntu package for it?
[11:16] <ishkabob> and she has an ubuntu machine
[11:16] <La_PaRCa> black-whisp, dont think so, no.
[11:16] <JingleBells> ~/.mozilla
[11:16] <La_PaRCa> blmartin777, dont think so
[11:16] <JingleBells> :|
[11:16] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: and you are on an Ubuntu box also?
[11:16] <crazy2k> La_PaRCa, I wan't to get rid of the thing that tries to connect to the Internet to get information for the clock or something.
[11:16] <blmartin777> La_PaRCa: thanks
[11:16] <ishkabob> yes
[11:16] <fortysixand2> NTP
[11:17] <tritium> ishkabob, then perhaps something wrong on her end.  Like I said, it works well for nearly everyone that uses it
[11:17] <toxickore> how can i fix this? http://pastebin.ca/17937
[11:17] <ishkabob> i've had the same problem though with a friends server, in the end my friend changed the files so that I owned them, and then it worked
[11:17] <ishkabob> but thats a pretty shaky solution
[11:18] <La_PaRCa> crazy2k, I think its rsyn but wouldnt count on it
[11:18] <crazy2k> Can't find on Google.
[11:18] <ishkabob> does anyone know what gFTP uses when it you select ssh2?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: I guess you could add the command to a wrapper script that starts your connection
[11:18] <blacksky> toxickore: did you try the force-all option for dpkg?
[11:18] <ishkabob> i was always under the impression that it used sftp
[11:19] <jmspeex> Hi, just installed 5.04 and got a few questions. First, how do I turn off the pc speaker?
[11:19] <toxickore> blacksky: well... that's the first problem i experienced when trying to dist-upgrade
[11:19] <jnk> jmspeex, add "pcspkr" to /etc/modules
[11:19] <ksmurf> thoreauputic now you are in over my head.... I still a noob
[11:19] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd  config files
[11:19] <jnk> jmspeex, oops to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:19] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd  config files
[11:19] <tritium> jmspeex, try the audio mixer first
[11:20] <funkyHat> i would like to set up LFE crossover on my nForce2 soundcard (onboard nForce mobo), so my subwoofer is used when i play stereo sound
[11:20] <tritium> jmspeex, you should be able to mute it
[11:20] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd  config files
[11:20] <jmspeex> tritium: I can't
[11:20] <funkyHat> how can i do that?
[11:20] <tritium> jmspeex, can you try alsamixer on the command line?
[11:21] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd  config files
[11:21] <jmspeex> tritium: I did
[11:22] <jmspeex> The "PC Speaker" was muted
[11:22] <funkyHat> at least i think it's called LFE crossover :D
[11:23] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd  config files
[11:23] <hugo> please
[11:23] <hugo> help
[11:23] <^thehatsrule^> use find
[11:23] <^thehatsrule^> locate?
[11:23] <^thehatsrule^> man
[11:23] <^thehatsrule^> etc
[11:23] <[2] BoxingFiend> same place where all config are /etc/
[11:24] <hugo> ya but where in etc
[11:24] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: I don't know if this will work, but you could try adding the command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to have it start each time you boot
[11:24] <[2] BoxingFiend> ls | grep pure
[11:24] <benkong2> I need an /etc/hosts question answered please I have a dyndns dynamic domain benkong2.ath.cx in my /etc/hosts I have 127.0.0.1 localdomain.localhost tuxserver second line is 192.168.1.70 tuxserver benkong2.ath.cx is this incorrect?
[11:24] <jmspeex> Another question is how to make the gnome and kde font settings coexist.
[11:24] <tritium> hugo, are you familiar with the "-L" switch to dpkg ?  It can be used to list files in a package...
[11:25] <jmspeex> The kde font prefs don't affect gnome apps at all, but the gnome prefs affect the kde ones twice.
[11:25] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: my server log shows accepted password for user .... .... ssh2  then subsystem request for sftp...
[11:25] <gobbolino> hi to all
[11:25] <ishkabob> yeah, so it uses sftp
[11:25] <jmspeex> (I'm using KDE as my desktop, but many gnome apps)
[11:26] <ksmurf> thoreauputic I'll try that...
[11:26] <ishkabob> is there a configuration file for sftp?
[11:26] <jnk> jmspeex, "affect the kde ones twice" ??
[11:27] <lcharly_TheOne> i have problems with my laptop is "Compaq presario V2312 Amd turion 64 ATI radeon xpress 200m 128mb"
[11:27] <lcharly_TheOne> when i install the ubuntu for amd 64 the computer is too slow
[11:28] <lcharly_TheOne> always the proccesor is in 52% in use
[11:28] <jmspeex> jnk: If I tell both kde and gnome that I want larger fonts, the kde fonts get it twice (once from kde, once from gnome)
[11:28] <lcharly_TheOne> some body know waht can i do??
[11:28] <Jimbob> lcharly_TheOne: If you run "top", what program is using the most CPU?
[11:28] <Jimbob> (from a terminal)
[11:28] <lcharly_TheOne> mmm i don't know
[11:28] <[2] BoxingFiend> lcharly: do a cat /proc/cpuinfo, what speed does the kernel recognize it as
[11:28] <Gnobody> yes open gnome-system-monitor and see what is eating up 52% usage
[11:29] <Gnobody> lcharly_TheOne
[11:29] <lcharly_TheOne> because im in windwos
[11:29] <lcharly_TheOne> i uninstall ubuntu
[11:29] <Jimbob> lcharly_TheOne: Well, we're not psychic :-)
[11:29] <kevin> which version of windows lcharly?
[11:29] <Gnobody> I have never seen a problem like that
[11:30] <lcharly_TheOne> XP
[11:30] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd congigs files please
[11:30] <Gnobody> XP x64?
[11:30] <kevin> do a cntrl alt del and and task the process that iis eating the cpu
[11:30] <lcharly_TheOne> yes
[11:30] <tritium> hugo, use "dpkg -L pure-ftpd" to  find out
[11:30] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd configs files please
[11:30] <gobbolino> some one can help me about 1280x800 (widescreen) resolution?
[11:30] <lcharly_TheOne> in windows the computer is too fast
[11:30] <tritium> hugo, and please stop repeating
[11:30] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: just the man page that I can find...
[11:30] <lcharly_TheOne> but in ubuntu the computer is too slow
[11:31] <ishkabob> man ssh?
[11:31] <Gnobody> It could be a bug in the Cool&Quiet
[11:31] <ishkabob> er man sftp?
[11:31] <[2] BoxingFiend> hugo: it's not under /etc/pureftp.conf?
[11:31] <kevin> sorry misunderstood
[11:31] <mwh_> Hi, im looking at buying a HP nc4200, but I'm wondering if the wifi will work with ubuntu hoary
[11:31] <Gnobody> is cool&quiet enabled?
[11:31] <mwh_> anyone here who has a nc4200 and who can guide me a bit
[11:31] <Gnobody> and was enabled when you used ubuntu
[11:31] <Gnobody> ?
[11:31] <lcharly_TheOne> when i open a terminal use 100% of the processor
[11:31] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: yep... mc
[11:32] <hugo> dpkg -L pure-ftpdno
[11:32] <hugo> no
[11:32] <mwh_> on the ubuntu site it says something about broadcom nic's not supported, but it seems to be an intel wificard
[11:32] <zerotime> hi, is there any graphical interface for unrar?
[11:32] <hugo> where the pure-ftpd configs files please
[11:32] <tritium> hugo, "dpkg -L pure-ftpd", make sure it's spelled correctly
[11:32] <lauli> can someone hand me a tut/howto on ubuntu+windows-shares ?
[11:32] <lauli> (url)
[11:32] <lcharly_TheOne> well i have to reinstall ubuntu and then maybe you can help me
[11:33] <tritium> lauli, take a look at ubuntuguide.org
[11:33] <zerotime> i'd like to unrar a file encripted with password, how can I proceed?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> hugo: type what you've been told in a terminal and you will see all the files installed by that package
[11:33] <hugo> ok
[11:33] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: also look at /etc/ssh/ssh_config   and man ssh  :)
[11:33] <ishkabob> yeah, just looked at ssh_config
[11:33] <nickrud> hugo, the config files might be in pure-ftpd-common, or -ldap, -mysql, or -postgresql, depending on what configs you are looking for
[11:34] <thoreauputic> !samba
[11:34] <ubotu> I guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[11:34] <thoreauputic> lauli:^^^^^
[11:35] <IIIEars> !merengue
[11:35] <ubotu> IIIEars: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:36] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: the sshd_config also... of course you are already pokeing around in that folder...
[11:36] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: have you tried !nougat as well *grin* ?
[11:36] <zerotime> please, need some help
[11:36] <IIIEars> Hi Threauputic :) - erm  lol no.  !nougat
[11:36] <shookuser1> How Ya all doin??
[11:36] <zerotime> how can I unrar a file with password
[11:37] <tritium> ishkabob, you shouldn't have to be mucking with your ssh config files.  something else is wrong, I believe
[11:37] <thr1ce> zerotime: dunno..wine and a brute force PW cracker?
[11:37] <shookuser1> I'm having a problem with dvds on ubuntu
[11:37] <dradul> zerotime, instead of installing unrar, activate the multiverse repo and install rar. You use the Gnome archive manager to have a graphical interface.
[11:37] <zerotime> thx
[11:37] <shookuser1> Can anyone help
[11:38] <ermac`> why do i get the error: could not initialize vbox, when i start photoshop.exe in wine?
[11:38] <[2] BoxingFiend> shookuser1:  take a look at ubuntuguide.org and install the codecs
[11:38] <ishkabob> tritium: well, what do you think is wrong? if its it not a file permissions problem and its not a problem ssh configuration
[11:39] <zerotime> I noticed some apps like mplayer gui, xmms, and amule have very big fonts, how can I change that?
[11:39] <shookuser1> All I found was dvd rw codes
[11:39] <dradul> zerotime, my pleasure. One thing more. You may need to use the command line to extract the contents of a password protected file, but for others, it works just fine.
[11:40] <[2] BoxingFiend> shookuser1: do you have libdvdcss2? if not sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:40] <nickrud> !libdvdcss2
[11:40] <Belutz> how to have KDE in my ubuntu? so i can choose between KDE or Gnome?
[11:40] <ubotu> nickrud: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:40] <synd> !restricted
[11:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Belutz: install kubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <thr1ce> Belutz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <ca3sar> hey im using hoary live cd, but my serial mouse doesnt work. how can i fix it ?
[11:41] <shookuser1> 2boxingfriends I'll try it thnki you
[11:41] <IIIEars> !ssh
[11:41] <ubotu> ssh is probably "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"
[11:41] <zenlunatic> why doesn't hoary have a .xinitrc?
[11:41] <arny_> my english is very bad. but, one question
[11:41] <zerotime> I just installed ati drivers, and then tvtime stopped working, aguing that theres no yuy2 support, I checked fgrlxconfig and theres nothing to deal with yuy2 support, how can I make tvtime work again?
[11:42] <Discipulus> araw1, don't ask to ask, justa sk
[11:42] <Discipulus> just ask*
[11:42] <benkong2> can a directory be renamed in linux?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: 1) debian distros use .xsession 2) you write it yourself
[11:42] <benkong2> example postfixadmin-2.1.0 to postfixadmin
[11:42] <Belutz> i thought i should install kde-desktop :p
[11:42] <tritium> ishkabob, sorry, hard to say
[11:42] <Belutz> thoreauputic: thx :)
[11:42] <arny_> Where are there sources.list for ubuntu horary ?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> benkong2: read about the mv command
[11:43] <ca3sar> benkong2 "mv  postfixadmin-2.1.0  postfixadmin"
[11:43] <nickrud> benkong2, mv <old name> <new name>
[11:43] <benkong2> I want to follow the postfix wiki but cyrus-sasl will not install any reason why?
[11:43] <benkong2> thoreauputic, thanks
[11:43] <[2] BoxingFiend> arny: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <benkong2> ca3sar, thanks
[11:43] <benkong2> nickrud, thanks
[11:43] <arny_> yes, but, in internet, the "repositorios"
[11:43] <ishkabob> tirtium, the thing i'm the most confused about is why i can use gFTP from a debian machine,  but not from an ubuntu machine
[11:44] <zerotime> anyone with the problem I mentioned before? how to enable yuy2 support in ati driver config
[11:44] <ca3sar> yw, but does someone know it possible to enable a serial mouse on ubuntu live cd ?
[11:44] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell La_PaRCa about codecs
[11:44] <ernstp> anyone found xkbcomp in breezy right now?
[11:44] <erirlar> uhm, how do i install a deb package?
[11:45] <zerotime> dpkg -i ..dsa.das..deb
[11:45] <ishkabob> AND, i can use gftp from an ubuntu machine, as long as i OWN the files i'm trying to download
[11:45] <erirlar> aha, thanks zerotime
[11:45] <ishkabob> but this is not the case with debian
[11:45] <nickrud> erirlar, dpkg -i <package>, but the program is probably available in ubuntu
[11:45] <gobbolino> hi... i have 2problem with ubunu: 1. resolution widescreen 1280x800 (but gnome monitor panel say 1025x768) and 2. xawtv and ftp uploading program "webcam" where is?or wher is the config file of xawtv?
[11:45] <SogniX> I just installed ubuntu 5.04 on my PC (that has multiple hard drives), and the installation part for GRUB saw that I also had Windows so it would be ok to accept the default install for Grub, accepted it - and no Ubuntu! Just windows. :( Any idea? I tried reinstalling and gave it /dev/hda1 as a location for grub as well but nothing :(
[11:46] <arny_> Bye!
[11:47] <NuffSed> I have a small problem. My OpenOffice doesnt start?
[11:48] <NuffSed> Anyone with an idea
[11:48] <jnk> SogniX: you should probably install grub on another drive... where is ubuntu installed?
[11:48] <jnk> NuffSed, wait it's coming lol
[11:48] <nickrud> gobbolino, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there will be a section in it saying what resolutions it can and cannot use, maybe there's a hint there
[11:49] <kevin> Sognix: I have dual booted Ubuntu laots of times and the best way I have found is to use a patitioning tool and make a blank partition for ubuntu, then when it is install go into the grub and make sure that it sees Windows
[11:49] <NuffSed> jnk, No I have waited :) It doesnt
[11:49] <SogniX> on the 2nd drive..  /dev/hda2 I think
[11:49] <SogniX> or is that /dev/hdb1? sorry
[11:49] <thoreauputic> NuffSed: what happens if you run " oowriter" from a terminal (without the quotes)
[11:49] <jnk> NuffSed, type oowriter in a terminal and see if something goes wrong
[11:49] <[2] BoxingFiend> hdb
[11:49] <pietro_spina> ishkabob: i vote for a side by side comparisons of the two gftprc files in $HOME/.gftp/  And that is all I have... good luck...
[11:49] <SogniX> ubuntu has it's own drive
[11:49] <ishkabob> thank you
[11:49] <kevin> sorry kevin will stay out of it
[11:50] <pietro_spina> np
[11:50] <jnk> SogniX, and what locations have you tried when installing grub?
[11:50] <NuffSed> umm.. ok whats the .sversionrc file?
[11:50] <SogniX> whatever it defaults to on the installer, and /dev/hda1
[11:51] <SogniX> and is there a way to get to the grub installer without reinstalling ubuntu?
[11:51] <SogniX> it's already there - just need to "see" it. heh :p
[11:51] <thoreauputic> NuffSed: it just has the Open Office version afaict
[11:51] <NuffSed> ah.. now it starts.. .sversionrc pointed to a directory that doesnt exist.
[11:52] <NuffSed> thanks for the tip :)
[11:52] <jnk> SogniX, you can boot from a live cd and use a chroot
[11:52] <aeho> I'm having weird problem in my own compiled opengl apps (supertux, warzone 2100), they compile fine, but I can't see the games really, just black
[11:52] <SogniX> hmm
[11:52] <jnk> SogniX, you should try /dev/hda and /dev/hdb, but in the grub syntax ( something like (hd0,0) and (hd1,0) ?)
[11:53] <dradul> SogniX, although you can install Ubuntu in the slave disk and install GRUB in the MBR of the first disk, it will not be able to load the grub configuration menu unless *it is in the master disk*, that is you still need a small partition in the master disk that at least contains the boot files.
[11:53] <kevin> I am really starting to hare windblows. I have been working on the same pc for little over 3 hours installing and updating win98 se plus all of the apps for it.....grrrrrrrrrrr
[11:53] <aeho> sounds work, I can see the cursor also in warzone
[11:53] <SogniX> oh
[11:53] <basti> I just installed the latest radeon driver and added fglrx to xorg.conf and now I can only choose from 2 differen resolutions..
[11:54] <SogniX> kevin, 98? ewww
[11:54] <kevin> yup. customer pc lol
[11:54] <SogniX> i force everyone to get 2k or XP before I help them :p
[11:54] <kevin> I am using my laptop to be in here lol
[11:55] <kevin> Sognix: I work with a lot of people on assistance so I have to get them to use the MAR program
[11:55] <MrMo> anyone using USB 2 stuff on Ubuntu?
[11:56] <MrMo> or is it just me who has this EHCI->UHCI->Storage?
[11:56] <anubis> once a server is installed does it start @boot automagically or do I have to add it to runtime?
[11:57] <kyncani> it's automagically added to /etc/rc*.d/
[11:57] <kevin> MrMo, I will when i INSTAKK IT on my desktop pc, right now it is on my p1 233 laptop
[11:57] <kevin> install lol
[11:57] <MrMo> kevin, ohh well...
[11:58] <vini> Please, i try to listen some MP3 and receive this message: There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/vini/Desktop/song.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins, what can I do?
[11:58] <La_PaRCa> Ok, someone just upgraded breezy and got X hosed. How can he fix it?
[11:58] <SogniX> vini, what app you trying to listen to them on?
[11:58] <vini> totem
[11:58] <vini> SogniX, totem
[11:59] <thoreauputic> vini: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:59] <SogniX> hmm... don't know that one. I was having trouble too until I got xmms - but I like xmms :p
[11:59] <thoreauputic> vini: it's in the universe repo
[11:59] <thoreauputic> !repos
[11:59] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:59] <zerotime> how to enable dvd playback and divx playback under totem?
[12:00] <La_PaRCa> !codecs
[12:00] <ubotu> I guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats