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| Mithrandir | good morning | 04:52 |
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| fabbione | morning | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | getting up late, fabio? ;-) | 06:15 |
| Mithrandir | bah, leaving for airport | 06:16 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: ehehe later :) | 06:17 |
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| chmj | morning | 09:34 |
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| infinity | fabbione : Dude, why does linux-headers-2.6.12-3 have a versioned dependency on libc6? | 10:10 |
| fabbione | infinity: because the headers contains a bunch of executable in script/ | 10:11 |
| fabbione | same reason why they are arch: any | 10:11 |
| fabbione | and not arch: all | 10:11 |
| infinity | Ugh. Okay, the better question is "why are we shipping script/"? | 10:12 |
| infinity | scripts, even. | 10:12 |
| fabbione | because they are required for linking | 10:12 |
| fabbione | at MODPOST stage 2 | 10:12 |
| fabbione | the same reason why ppc64 headers are borked | 10:13 |
| infinity | Including the binaries? | 10:13 |
| fabbione | yup... | 10:13 |
| infinity | Cock. That's retarded. | 10:13 |
| fabbione | the binaries are little utilities very arch specific required for linking | 10:13 |
| infinity | We should at least move scripts/ to the flavour-specific packages, then, and make the big linux-headers arch:all, no? | 10:14 |
| fabbione | infinity: that's basically required... | 10:14 |
| fabbione | to unfuck ppc64 | 10:14 |
| fabbione | but i need to review the overall build process | 10:14 |
| fabbione | because the binaries are built once from another source dir :/ | 10:14 |
| fabbione | this system is sick | 10:14 |
| fabbione | breezy+1 must be a royal cleanup | 10:15 |
| fabbione | otherwise you can do it while i will be VAC | 10:15 |
| fabbione | or start now? ;) | 10:15 |
| infinity | If I do it, we'll end up with something much sicker. :) | 10:15 |
| fabbione | ahaha | 10:15 |
| infinity | Mostly because the current situation just looks SO EFFIN WRONG to me. | 10:15 |
| fabbione | infinity: ideally we should switch to the new debian build system | 10:16 |
| fabbione | but i don't have the time/power atm | 10:16 |
| infinity | (This arose from a desire to install headers on hoary, which is impossible, for no sane reason other than upstream crack) | 10:16 |
| infinity | Is Debian's new system nicer to work with? | 10:17 |
| fabbione | why on earth do you want to do that? | 10:17 |
| fabbione | infinity: i know they are working on a much cleaner build system similar to our but sane | 10:17 |
| infinity | Because I'm running a stock breezy kernel on hoary on my laptop, because the hoary kernel suck monkey balls on my new hardware. | 10:17 |
| fabbione | i had really no time to look at it yet | 10:17 |
| infinity | (WiFi drops out constantly, machine crashes, my grandmother gets cancer, y'know.. the usual) | 10:17 |
| fabbione | yeah yeah... time to change hw | 10:18 |
| fabbione | the kernel is fine :) | 10:18 |
| infinity | <laugh> | 10:18 |
| infinity | I'm pretty sure it all comes down to the ipw2200 driver being in constant flux, and my 2915ABG being very poorly supported in hoary. | 10:19 |
| infinity | No big deal. | 10:19 |
| fabbione | yeah | 10:19 |
| infinity | If this mystical new Debian kernel build system works, I'll be happy to investigate a switch. | 10:20 |
| fabbione | infinity: it's in SVN | 10:20 |
| fabbione | it looks easier.. or it sounds like.. | 10:20 |
| fabbione | but it's not stable | 10:20 |
| infinity | dilinger : ping. | 10:20 |
| fabbione | they are still fluxing around some stuff | 10:20 |
| infinity | dilinger : Make me your bitch. | 10:21 |
| infinity | Stable isn't such a big deal, as long as we can cut something useable for ourselves for breezy, and merge back in sync post-breezy. | 10:21 |
| infinity | It's not like what we HAVE is any good either. | 10:21 |
| fabbione | well it is.. they are still shifting pkgs name around :P | 10:22 |
| fabbione | we know that our work | 10:22 |
| fabbione | to a certain degree | 10:22 |
| infinity | With enough massaging. | 10:22 |
| fabbione | nah it doesn't need that much | 10:22 |
| fabbione | we were not ready to do cross-compiling.. that's all | 10:22 |
| fabbione | and these are bits and pieces that are coming while we grow | 10:22 |
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| fabbione | infinity: i think scripts is the only thing that is more arch specific than the headers | 12:51 |
| fabbione | at least from a first check | 12:51 |
| fabbione | the reason why linux-headers (generic) is not arch: all is because we can apply (and we do) arch specific patches | 12:51 |
| fabbione | otherwise kernel and headers won't match | 12:51 |
| fabbione | so in theory fixing scripts/ should be enough | 12:52 |
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| zul | hey | 01:38 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 01:58 |
| zul | hey fabbione how goes it? | 02:09 |
| fabbione | zul: no too bad.. going off line for a little nap now | 02:15 |
| zul | cool...am at work | 02:19 |
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| zul | fabio im back as of tonight.. | 04:37 |
| dilinger | fabbione: hey, did you see my config tool thingy? | 04:38 |
| dilinger | zul: you too.. | 04:38 |
| zul | dilinger: nope i havent been busy getting settled in with my new job | 04:39 |
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| dilinger | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/trunk/scripts/?rev=0&sc=0 | 04:39 |
| dilinger | initsplit for breaking up the configs, and split-config for managing them | 04:39 |
| dilinger | try it out, find bugs, fix or report them ;) | 04:40 |
| zul | ok cool...ill try it out tonight | 04:40 |
| fabbione | hey dilinger | 04:50 |
| fabbione | no i had no time really.. | 04:50 |
| fabbione | i am fighting with a bunch of things all together | 04:50 |
| dilinger | ok, well, when you get the chance.. | 04:50 |
| dilinger | i'm already finding it hugely useful | 04:50 |
| fabbione | sure i will | 04:50 |
| dilinger | changing config options across 5 different archs, some 20-something flavours :) | 04:50 |
| fabbione | or better i must :) | 04:50 |
| fabbione | YAY | 05:02 |
| fabbione | finally i got to fix the ppc64 headers | 05:02 |
| doko | l-k-h? | 05:02 |
| fabbione | damn the header pkg is getting a mess | 05:02 |
| fabbione | doko: nope.. the real kernel headers | 05:02 |
| fabbione | doko: i just finished to build gcc 4.0.1 on sparc.. (test build) | 05:04 |
| fabbione | i am will soon let you know about the ICE and the LINKING thing | 05:04 |
| doko | any changes needed? I was going to make a new 4.0 upload today | 05:05 |
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| fabbione | doko: no changes.. but i will not be able to build it until cairo and gtk+2.0 are rebuilt | 05:06 |
| fabbione | hi lamont | 05:06 |
| fabbione | there was a leak of libXrender.la in some /usr/lib | 05:07 |
| fabbione | that will make it FTBFS | 05:07 |
| fabbione | doko: if you can give me something like 30 minutes to check a couple of things i would be really grateful | 05:07 |
| doko | no problem, doing test builds on ppc and amd64 first | 05:08 |
| fabbione | doko: ok | 05:08 |
| lamont | morning fabbione | 05:08 |
| fabbione | i would like to be able to give you some more info on the ICE (if still there) and that LINKING thing.. | 05:08 |
| fabbione | perhaps it's an easy fix (the latter at least) | 05:08 |
| fabbione | YAY | 05:19 |
| fabbione | GO GCC!!!!! | 05:19 |
| fabbione | doko: now it fails on the same package with a more interesting message | 05:20 |
| fabbione | the 2 could be easily related tho.. | 05:20 |
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| fabbione | doko: is 4.0.1 more paranoid than 4.0.0 ?? | 05:22 |
| fabbione | first log: | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c: In function 'timestamp': | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c:29: warning: format '%06ld' expects type 'long int', but argument 4 has type '__suseconds_t' | 05:22 |
| fabbione | second log: | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c: In function 'timestamp': | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c:24: error: storage size of 'tz' isn't known | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c:29: warning: format '%06ld' expects type 'long int', but argument 4 has type '__suseconds_t' | 05:22 |
| fabbione | util.c:24: warning: unused variable 'tz' | 05:22 |
| fabbione | note that this is the same code | 05:22 |
| fabbione | only change is gcc | 05:22 |
| zul | meh.. | 05:24 |
| fabbione | libc6-dev: /usr/include/time.h | 05:25 |
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| fabbione | bah it's even an used var | 05:27 |
| fabbione | The use of the timezone struct is obsolete; the tz_dsttime field has never | 05:28 |
| fabbione | I CAN BLAME GTK! | 05:29 |
| doko | fabbione: hmm, should that be %p instead? | 05:31 |
| fabbione | there it is... _BSD_SOURCE is not defined | 05:31 |
| fabbione | doko: no that's just a warning and i don't care | 05:32 |
| fabbione | the failure there is due to -D_BSD_SOURCE not being there | 05:32 |
| fabbione | = struct timezone has no size | 05:32 |
| fabbione | JEEEE | 05:32 |
| fabbione | doko: the point is that _BSD_SOURCE is not defined in the previous log | 05:33 |
| fabbione | and it was passing this point | 05:33 |
| fabbione | /usr/lib/gcc/sparc-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../../../lib/crt1.o:../sysdeps/sparc/sparc32/elf/start.S:60: multiple definition of `_PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_' | 05:35 |
| fabbione | no | 05:35 |
| fabbione | it's not fixed | 05:35 |
| fabbione | doko: what do you want me to check to get this fixed? | 05:35 |
| fabbione | let's move to #toolchain | 05:36 |
| doko | hmm, I don't know ... | 05:36 |
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