| slomo | hmm seems they're all sleeping or busy :( tseng, you haven't voted yet ;) | 12:06 |
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| tseng | i have not | 12:06 |
| tseng | link me again please | 12:06 |
| slomo | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=154 | 12:06 |
| bddebian | OK darnit, I added the checks for DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE and DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and confflags += gcc-3.4 and put the build dependency for gcc-3.4 in the control file but it still seems to be trying to build with gcc-4.x. What am I missing? | 12:20 |
| slomo | bddebian: which package? | 12:20 |
| bddebian | slomo: openswan | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: why can't it build with 4.0? | 12:22 |
| ogra | ajmitch, kernel modules | 12:22 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: It builds some kernel modules and apparently that is a problem!? | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | ah, I see | 12:22 |
| bddebian | ogra: Any quick quidance on what else I could be missing? | 12:23 |
| ogra | bddebian, what happens if you only add the 'confflags += gcc-3.4' line, without the if construct | 12:23 |
| ogra | ? | 12:23 |
| bddebian | Well I didn't try that :-) | 12:24 |
| ogra | :) | 12:24 |
| ogra | since you want it for all arhes.... | 12:24 |
| bddebian | Do I? | 12:26 |
| bddebian | Hmm, still the same | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | ogra: did you see the url about utnubu? | 12:27 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yes | 12:40 |
| ogra | ajmitch, its a nice move... | 12:40 |
| === ajmitch will probably try & join the team, if time permits | ||
| ogra | yes, the latter is also my problem | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | since we've probably got a thousand or so patches to try & get back upstream to debian | 12:44 |
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| niran | if a package has a .desktop file, it'll always be in /usr/share/applications, right? | 01:05 |
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| ogra | niran, depends.. if its gnome. yes.... kde has some weird ways to abuse .desktop files for themes... | 01:18 |
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| HostingGeek | |QuaD-: yo | 02:25 |
| |QuaD- | hey | 02:26 |
| HostingGeek | how are you? | 02:28 |
| |QuaD- | tired | 02:29 |
| |QuaD- | and onw i have to get my X in breezy workign :) | 02:29 |
| HostingGeek | me? sick... threw up a lot yesterday... | 02:29 |
| === HostingGeek is planning on swaping back to debian sid | ||
| HostingGeek | now that xorg is in sid | 02:30 |
| HostingGeek | there is nothing intresting in ubuntu | 02:30 |
| HostingGeek | sid is always bleeding edge | 02:30 |
| |QuaD- | lol | 02:30 |
| bddebian | That's nice | 02:30 |
| HostingGeek | ubuntu is 6 months of the year bleeding edge and broken as hell | 02:30 |
| |QuaD- | feel better! | 02:30 |
| === bddebian is going back to Windows | ||
| === |QuaD- is going back to msdos | ||
| bddebian | heh | 02:31 |
| HostingGeek | bddebian: you used windows o.0 | 02:31 |
| bddebian | Fine, I'm going back to CPM then :-) | 02:31 |
| === ogra is going to sleep | ||
| === HostingGeek goes back to unix | ||
| bddebian | HostingGeek: Windows pays my bills :-( | 02:31 |
| HostingGeek | lol | 02:31 |
| === |QuaD- is going back to multics | ||
| bddebian | Gnight ogra | 02:31 |
| ogra | night all | 02:31 |
| |QuaD- | bddebian: my windows laptop pays the bills :) | 02:31 |
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| |QuaD- | interesting how -devel says "yes, X is broken. a fix has already been uploaded." | 02:34 |
| |QuaD- | if its uploaded, why isn't it fixed? | 02:34 |
| === |QuaD- is confused | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:HostingGeek] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | X is roken more broken than broken | ||
| |QuaD- | lol | 02:36 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:HostingGeek] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | X (X is like foo its a place holder) is roken more broken than broken | ||
| HostingGeek | :D | 02:36 |
| jamessan|laptop | "is roken more broken than broken" ? | 02:38 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:ajmitch] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | ||
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| HostingGeek | what is roken? | 05:17 |
| HostingGeek | roken is a broken, broken | 05:17 |
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| ajmitch | hello bddebian | 05:36 |
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| AndyFitz | Cowbell, Cowbell, Cowbell, :-) | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch, how's things? | 05:37 |
| bddebian | AndyFitz: :-) | 05:37 |
| Burgundavia | AndyFitz, how are the icons coming? | 05:37 |
| AndyFitz | g'day bddebian | 05:37 |
| AndyFitz | Burgundavia, they are doing good. writing up a wiki document so the art team can help up | 05:38 |
| schweeb | omg it's ajmitch | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | really? | 05:39 |
| schweeb | no | 05:39 |
| ajmitch | ok | 05:39 |
| schweeb | anyone using these new cairo enabled gtk2.7 packages? | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | great, call for NMUs on debian-devel to some lib packages | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | I see at least 5 there that I touched in ubuntu | 05:45 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:45 |
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| siretart | moin folks!\ | 09:15 |
| siretart | wheeez. 55 mails since saturday.. | 09:17 |
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| pef | hi | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | robitaille and I are going to town on the wiki, siretart | 09:23 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: I've seen it in my inbox ;) - great job! | 09:24 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: what's about this Category* Pages? Just for better navigating or is there some policy describing how it should work? | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | Category pages are automatically created indexes | 09:26 |
| Burgundavia | of any page with CategoryFoo in them | 09:26 |
| siretart | ah. cool! | 09:26 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: can a page have multiple? | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 09:27 |
| Treenaks | Coolness | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | just add another CategoryBar to it | 09:27 |
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| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxApplicationList | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | still useful for you? | 09:39 |
| siretart | I dont think so, because the archive seems to be unfrozen now, uploads of cxx application should work again | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | ok, will kill it | 09:53 |
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| \sh | grmpf | 09:59 |
| \sh | wine is compiled but not in the archives... | 09:59 |
| \sh | and with all the kde stuff...we're waiting for xbase client | 09:59 |
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| siretart | hi \sh, how are you? | 10:09 |
| \sh | siretart: fine...but waiting for some NEW love ,-) | 10:10 |
| siretart | hehe :) | 10:10 |
| \sh | someone has to move wine to the archives | 10:11 |
| siretart | does this make sense with xorg beeing unusable atm? | 10:11 |
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| jsgotangco | brb | 10:55 |
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| pef | is revu frozen ? | 12:06 |
| siretart | pef: not that I'm aware, why? | 12:17 |
| pef | siretart: no motu comments since a few days | 12:17 |
| siretart | I cannot speak for other MOTUs, but I'm currently very busy. sorry :( | 12:18 |
| pef | no problems ;) I just want to know | 12:19 |
| ogra | argh, Burgundavia removed the Cxx page ? | 12:23 |
| siretart | isn't it possible to recover deleted wiki pages? | 12:38 |
| Amaranth | oh dear | 12:52 |
| Amaranth | it's a PITA | 12:52 |
| Amaranth | i don't know how (or if it's possible) with the new wiki software | 12:52 |
| ogra | i restored it | 12:55 |
| ogra | you go to the recent changes page, click on info and click on restore in the info page.... | 12:56 |
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| === havoc figures out how to installl breezy packages on hoary | ||
| Treenaks | havoc: witha large hammer? | 03:05 |
| havoc | I need netatalk-2.0-beta{n} | 03:06 |
| havoc | oh, nto even beta anymore, nice :) | 03:06 |
| havoc | 2.0.3 is out and in breezy | 03:06 |
| havoc | this si for that 1.2TB machine | 03:06 |
| havoc | fileserver for a mac network | 03:07 |
| havoc | and the netatalk version that comes with hoary (1.6.4) doesn't quite work for a mixed OS9 and OSX network | 03:07 |
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| Nafallo | strange... | 03:18 |
| Nafallo | I just found myself blogging for the second time today :-P | 03:19 |
| === Nafallo hugs drivel * | ||
| Lathiat | haha | 03:20 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:29 |
| havoc | morning | 03:32 |
| bddebian | Hello havoc | 03:32 |
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| === havoc wonders just how stable breezy is right now | ||
| Treenaks | havoc: so do we | 04:02 |
| havoc | I *need* netatalk-2.0.3, so my options are to go to breezy, or build from source | 04:03 |
| Amaranth | X does not work at all in breezy | 04:03 |
| havoc | ah | 04:03 |
| Amaranth | if you haven't been following X from at least -36 to now | 04:03 |
| havoc | well, I don't have X installed anyway | 04:03 |
| havoc | ok, build from source it is | 04:04 |
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| havoc | ok, build from source isn't as easy as it sounds :( | 04:12 |
| sivang | Amaranth: works for me | 04:14 |
| sivang | Amaranth: I had a broken X from about a week ago, I dist-upgraded today and everything's fine | 04:14 |
| Amaranth | sivang: You went from hoary to breezy xorg 6.8.2-42? | 04:14 |
| Amaranth | of course it works for you | 04:15 |
| Amaranth | you have an xbase-clients | 04:15 |
| sivang | Amaranth: no, from breezy to breezy | 04:15 |
| Amaranth | yes, going from hoary to breezy or a fresh install of breezy (if daily snapshots are building) is broken | 04:16 |
| sivang | Amaranth: ah that is bullocks ;-) | 04:27 |
| Amaranth | blame daniels :) | 04:27 |
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| === bddebian blames daniels though he doesn't know what for :-) | ||
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| bddebian | Would anyone find any value in me adding comments or a link to a comments page about problems with packages that I find in UniverseUnmetDeps that I may not be able to fix myself?? | 04:36 |
| siretart | bddebian: if you think your comments could save work for others fixing the package, I'd say absolutly. if in doubt, yes ;) | 04:37 |
| ogra | bddebian, everything you do is valuable here :) | 04:38 |
| bddebian | Yeah right | 04:38 |
| bddebian | Here are two examples, give me your opinion. zorp needs to be updated from upstream due to libzorpll 3.0.xx and some changes in functions therein. Openswan FTBFSs with gcc-4.0 because it includes kernel modules. Unfortunately the rules/control set up is all makefiles so it's not a "small" change, I don't think. | 04:40 |
| bddebian | Shit | 04:40 |
| bddebian | No comment? | 04:44 |
| \sh | bddebian: the comments of siretart and ogra say "Yes, do it" I say "do it" if this is not the majority, then I don't know anymore *lol* | 04:46 |
| Amaranth | openswan is C though, right? | 04:48 |
| bddebian | OK. Should I put them right on the UnmetDeps page or a link? | 04:48 |
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| siretart | bddebian: I think some sort of 'commented' .debdiffs would be most helpful | 04:48 |
| ogra | Amaranth, yes, but kernel stuff doesnt compil with gcc-4.0 | 04:49 |
| Amaranth | ogra: I know, but you can compile it with gcc-3.4 :) | 04:49 |
| ogra | sure | 04:49 |
| bddebian | siretart: How would I do that? Actually go ahead and update zorp for example, from upstream? | 04:49 |
| siretart | bddebian: ah, I see. for bigger changes this is not feasible.. | 04:53 |
| siretart | rather for smaller changes | 04:53 |
| bddebian | Well obviously if I can fix the package, I intend to try :-) | 04:55 |
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| \sh | ugh....this is.../me is ashamed | 05:02 |
| \sh | ashamed? | 05:02 |
| tritium | hey teferi :) | 05:02 |
| teferi | so tritium tells me that i should package my stupid little evolution mail notifier tray icon | 05:02 |
| comadreja | gmail-notify would go into section universe/net ? | 05:02 |
| \sh | what about mail? | 05:03 |
| comadreja | better, right ? | 05:03 |
| bddebian | \sh: What are you ashamed about? | 05:03 |
| teferi | i'm not sure he's right, it's a 40-line python hack and it's not even done yet | 05:03 |
| ogra | teferi, based on the dbus messages ? | 05:03 |
| teferi | ogra: yep | 05:03 |
| \sh | bddebian: i just found a piece of evidence of me...10 years ago | 05:03 |
| ogra | yay | 05:03 |
| ogra | DO IT ! | 05:04 |
| bddebian | \sh: Ah :-) | 05:04 |
| teferi | ogra: there hasn't been one since em-panel-applet broke after the big dbus api break | 05:04 |
| teferi | and i finally got tired of switching desktops to check mail | 05:04 |
| teferi | anyway, let me finish version 0.2 and you all can take a look at it | 05:04 |
| tritium | awesome, teferi | 05:04 |
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| teferi | hmm...0.2 will be a little longer, tooltips aren't working for some reason | 05:07 |
| teferi | ah, that would be why. | 05:07 |
| teferi | good god, there's something seriously wrong with my mail system if it takes this long for mail to percolate up into evolution... | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | lol percolate | 05:12 |
| teferi | well, postfix to courier to evolution | 05:13 |
| teferi | er, postfix to procmail to etc. | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | ahh courier is the problem? ;) | 05:13 |
| teferi | i suspect courier | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | use dovecot! | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | :) | 05:13 |
| teferi | is it any good? | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | works great | 05:13 |
| teferi | also, what's the migration path from courier like? | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | i use it all the time | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | no idea | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | depends what features of courier you are using i guess | 05:14 |
| teferi | um, nothing fancy | 05:14 |
| teferi | folders? | 05:14 |
| teferi | maildir? | 05:14 |
| Lathiat | yeh that shold work fine | 05:14 |
| Lathiat | more worried about things like virtual users | 05:14 |
| teferi | nothing that fancy | 05:14 |
| teferi | all right! tooltips! | 05:17 |
| teferi | lemme check this into cvs and then i'll upload it somewhere | 05:17 |
| teferi | http://wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py | 05:21 |
| teferi | requires python, python-gnome2-dev, python-gnome2-extras-dev | 05:21 |
| teferi | and python2.4-dbus | 05:21 |
| teferi | please beat on it and tell me if you break it | 05:22 |
| tritium | teferi, thanks again :) | 05:24 |
| teferi | tritium: hey, i'm doing this because i need it. the fact that you may find it useful is entirely coincidental :) | 05:25 |
| teferi | oh crap, small bug | 05:25 |
| teferi | okay, try now | 05:26 |
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| teferi | tritium: it work okay fro you? | 05:35 |
| tritium | teferi, no, import error for egg.trayicon | 05:36 |
| tritium | Im probably missing a python lib | 05:36 |
| teferi | tritium: you need python-gnome2-extras-dev | 05:36 |
| tritium | cool, thanks | 05:36 |
| tritium | teferi, I'm going to have to check it out later. I'll let you know next time I see you. Thanks again. | 05:39 |
| teferi | no problem, i'll hang around | 05:39 |
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| teferi | huh, switching to dovecot broke my folders just a teensy bit | 05:51 |
| Lathiat | might need to fiddle with the option for folders | 05:52 |
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| teferi | it doesn't root its namespace in INBOX like courier did | 05:53 |
| teferi | which is a bit different | 05:53 |
| teferi | i seem to still be able to access all my old folders, though, so no loss yet | 05:53 |
| teferi | however, i don't seem to be able to subscribe to folders from inside evolution. odd, that. | 05:53 |
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| Amaranth | \sh_away: Your server is about to die. :P | 06:11 |
| bddebian | If someone gets a second, can they just check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps and let me know if that is too much or too little info for the page? | 06:24 |
| slomo | bddebian: you are BarryDefreese? well it seems like too much information ;) should be ok this way :) at least me and the others just list on what packages we're working currently... | 06:29 |
| bddebian | slomo: Well I was trying to get info out there for others that I have looked at it but not necessarily will be able to fix the package itself. You think it's too much? | 06:37 |
| slomo | bddebian: that was a joke :) i think it's ok this way | 06:40 |
| bddebian | slomo: Oh sorry :-) Thanks for looking. | 06:40 |
| slomo | bddebian: maybe add a link to the debian bugreport you mean :) is this #304666 or #301618 | 06:42 |
| bddebian | I thought about that but I was trying not to get too verbose. :-) | 06:44 |
| slomo | hm, just add them ;) that's ~15 additional characters and when somebody wants them deleted he just can do it... which one of these two bugs is causing problems? only the second? | 06:50 |
| bddebian | Just did :) | 06:53 |
| slomo | ok, fine :) hm, maybe you can try to do an updated package? uupdate ist your friend ;) but is the 2.1 branch source/binary compatible with 2.0? | 06:55 |
| bddebian | Of zorp? It should be the 3.0.x branch | 06:56 |
| slomo | oh ok :) | 06:58 |
| Nafallo | slomo: btw. for kismet you might want this debian/control: http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/control.kismet | 06:58 |
| Nafallo | slomo: i.e. changed Suggests and Description to what debian has in the last sync :-). | 06:59 |
| Nafallo | slomo: hi btw :-) | 07:00 |
| slomo | hi ;) hmm, why do you tell me that? kismet was on my todo list after gnucash/sawfish/python-gnome2 but nobody should've known that ;) | 07:01 |
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| Nafallo | slomo: I hacked on 2005.04.R1-2 to build on ubuntu before 2005.06.R1-0ubuntu1 was uploaded :-). | 07:03 |
| Nafallo | slomo: but that version had the Suggests from 2004.04.R1, so I wanted to tell you that for the next kismet upload :-). | 07:05 |
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| comadreja | I need a revision on this http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=156 | 07:08 |
| comadreja | btw siretart, thanks for kismet ! | 07:08 |
| Nafallo | slomo: hmm, are you the right person btw? :-) | 07:08 |
| slomo | i don't think so ;) maybe you've mistaken me for comadreja? :) | 07:08 |
| slomo | but thanks anyway :) | 07:09 |
| Nafallo | slomo: ahh, hehe. sorry then :-). | 07:09 |
| comadreja | oh, yes, it's me | 07:09 |
| comadreja | :) | 07:09 |
| Nafallo | comadreja: ^ s/slomo/comadreja/g ;-) | 07:09 |
| comadreja | send me a diff | 07:10 |
| slomo | comadreja: the diff of your gmail-notify upload seems to be broken | 07:10 |
| comadreja | damn, let me check | 07:10 |
| comadreja | oh, it's a new package, damn | 07:10 |
| Nafallo | comadreja: k | 07:11 |
| slomo | comadreja: is kismet completely fixed now? in that case you can remove it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps and add your name and the package name to the already-done-table ;) | 07:11 |
| comadreja | slomo: should be, yes. I'll retry it | 07:12 |
| comadreja | slomo: yes, it does | 07:13 |
| slomo | comadreja: it works at least on ppc :) and it isn't segfaulting for me like the old version | 07:14 |
| Nafallo | comadreja: that's http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/control.diff | 07:16 |
| comadreja | slomo : that's not thanks to me :D | 07:16 |
| comadreja | Nafallo : awesome | 07:17 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, I don't get any unmet install dependencies for the zope-* stuff on UniverseUnmetDeps | 07:20 |
| slomo | which architecture? x86? | 07:21 |
| bddebian | Aye | 07:21 |
| |rockinnerd| | i'm so confused on how to start to be a MOTU | 07:22 |
| bddebian | |rockinnerd|: Join the club :-) | 07:23 |
| bddebian | I'm just amusing enough to ogra to stick around. Other than that, I'm useless :-) | 07:23 |
| slomo | bddebian: even zope-popyda? | 07:23 |
| bddebian | slomo: Yep | 07:23 |
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| slomo | bddebian: hmm, funny... zope-popyda: Depends: python2.1-popy (>= 2.0.8) but it is not installable Depends: python2.1-popy (< 2.0.9) but it is not installable | 07:24 |
| slomo | bddebian: this is also on x86 ;) | 07:24 |
| bddebian | slomo: On Breezy? | 07:24 |
| slomo | bddebian: yes | 07:24 |
| |rockinnerd| | where does the community council meet? | 07:24 |
| slomo | |rockinnerd|: #ubuntu-meeting | 07:24 |
| bddebian | |rockinnerd|: #ubuntu-meeting | 07:25 |
| |rockinnerd| | ah. | 07:25 |
| slomo | bddebian: there really is no python2.1-popy anymore... maybe you have hoary sources in your sources.list or something? | 07:25 |
| slomo | bddebian: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=popy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all | 07:26 |
| bddebian | slomo: That's weird. I don't get that dep in apt-cache search but I don't get an error when apt-get install zope-popyd | 07:26 |
| bddebian | +a | 07:26 |
| bddebian | I should really set up a chroot for this crap | 07:27 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: pbuilder is your friend :-) | 07:29 |
| slomo | bddebian: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 07:29 |
| bddebian | I can install packages into my pbuilder? | 07:30 |
| bddebian | I thought it was more a test build environment | 07:30 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: pbuilder login is your friend to ;-) | 07:30 |
| slomo | bddebian: and this package should be easy to fix... probably just change the (build)depends to python2.4-popy | 07:30 |
| bddebian | slomo: I know | 07:30 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: How do I do that? | 07:31 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: set up a pbuilder and then run pbuilder login :-) | 07:31 |
| bddebian | I have a pbuilder | 07:32 |
| slomo | bddebian: but don't make the same mistake as me and don't install something else than the default stuff ;) gets really hard to fix build dependencies when everything is there by default :) | 07:32 |
| Nafallo | slomo: well. you probably used --save-after-login ;-) | 07:32 |
| Nafallo | login is having a chroot that gets restored after you've been there :-) | 07:34 |
| slomo | Nafallo: yes _that_ was the mistake ;) really stupid | 07:34 |
| Nafallo | slomo: login is great for testing installations and that stuff :-) | 07:34 |
| slomo | Nafallo: sure... as long as you don't add --save-after-exec =) well... i'll search something to eat... brb :) | 07:35 |
| Nafallo | slomo: s/exec/login/ , but yea :-) | 07:36 |
| === Nafallo is using --save-after-login quite often though. | ||
| Nafallo | mirrorchanges, getting ccache to work etc... :-) | 07:37 |
| bddebian | Weird. I get the depency failure in pbuilder but not in my normal breezy environement.. WTF | 07:37 |
| ogra | bddebian, is your installation up to date ? is you pbuilder up to date ? i guess one of them is outdated | 07:38 |
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| |rockinnerd| | what do you think i should put in my Wiki; ive added myself to tomorrow's meeting agenda | 07:41 |
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| thierry | at http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ what means the hammer, the light and the heart? | 07:44 |
| bddebian | The CC meeting is tomorrow? Yeesh | 07:44 |
| bddebian | ogra: Well I thought I updated my pbuilder but it was pulling from uk.ubunutu.com and I know I changed that so I am confused | 07:45 |
| slomo | tseng: ping? | 07:46 |
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| bddebian | OK damnit, shouldn't pbuilder be using my /etc/pbuilder/apt.conf/sources.list??? | 07:59 |
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| slomo | hmm, i've created a package for cowbell yesterday uploaded it to revu and now the upstream author asked me whether i want the debian/ stuff included upstream :) would this be wise or can this cause problems somewhere? and what would be the best choose for the version numbering in that case? 0.1-0? | 08:05 |
| jamessan|work | debian/ should not be in upstream | 08:06 |
| slomo | jamessan|work: ok, thanks :) are there any reasons for this? | 08:07 |
| jamessan|work | for one, it means there's no diff.gz | 08:07 |
| bddebian | OK, I don't get a build dependencie installing zope-speedpack in pbuilder, but it does explode | 08:09 |
| slomo | jamessan|work: and this confuses buildd/archives? | 08:11 |
| bddebian | If someone is bored, could you look at this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/660 | 08:12 |
| jamessan|work | slomo: no, it makes it easier to see what changes the maintainer is making. also, why should it be in upstream if it's debian specific? | 08:13 |
| comadreja | I'm uploading the fixed gcl 2.6.6 package | 08:15 |
| comadreja | to revu | 08:15 |
| slomo | jamessan|work: no idea ;) he just asked :) doesn't really make much difference but is useless imho... same as the .spec files included with some packages | 08:16 |
| ogra | bddebian, are all this python modules in the depends ? | 08:18 |
| ogra | especially the python package that contains shutil | 08:18 |
| bddebian | ogra: All which python modules? | 08:19 |
| bddebian | Ohh | 08:19 |
| ogra | import fnmatch, glob, os, re, sys, shutil | 08:19 |
| ogra | thats a line of python imports | 08:19 |
| ogra | hmm, should be in python2.4 | 08:20 |
| bddebian | It doesn't depend python2.4 I don't think. Which is probably the problem | 08:20 |
| ogra | yep | 08:20 |
| ogra | could also be a older version, or the python metapackage | 08:21 |
| ogra | they contain it all | 08:21 |
| comadreja | why don't you use dh_python ? | 08:22 |
| bddebian | Who? | 08:22 |
| comadreja | the debian helper thingy for python | 08:23 |
| bddebian | I know what you meant, I meant who were you talking to, me? :-) | 08:23 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 08:23 |
| comadreja | bddebian : yes, sorry | 08:23 |
| comadreja | bddebian : I forgot, I was talking to you | 08:23 |
| Nafallo | I search for the author of books I want and get her homepage :-P | 08:23 |
| Nafallo | I actually want to buy books :-) | 08:24 |
| Nafallo | stupid google :-P | 08:24 |
| thierry | at http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ what means the hammer, the light and the heart? | 08:24 |
| ogra | Nafallo, ever heard of amazon ? :p | 08:24 |
| Nafallo | ogra: heard of it. never been there ;-). | 08:24 |
| thierry | I'd like to review some package on breezy... could someone point one and how this works? | 08:24 |
| bddebian | Depends python2.3-psyco?? WTF? | 08:25 |
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| === Amaranth wonders how that got missed in the python transition | ||
| Nafallo | ogra: how to make it sort only the swedish translation? :-P | 08:26 |
| pef_aw | thierry: hammer = need work, light = new package (not already debianized), and heart means the package is accepted | 08:27 |
| thierry | k | 08:27 |
| ogra | Nafallo, tried amazon.se ? | 08:31 |
| Nafallo | ogra: yepp. leads to www.active24.se or something like that. | 08:33 |
| ogra | hmm | 08:34 |
| siretart | hi folks | 08:34 |
| siretart | CC concil is tomorrow, yes? | 08:34 |
| Nafallo | siretart: yes | 08:34 |
| Nafallo | ogra: irritating when you got the first three books, but can't find book five and six anywhere on the internet ;-). | 08:35 |
| comadreja | siretart : thanks about kismet :) | 08:35 |
| ogra | heh, probably the are confidential :) | 08:35 |
| comadreja | sk | 08:37 |
| comadreja | siretart : I uploaded two more packages | 08:38 |
| siretart | comadreja: I (and the whole community) has to thank YOU for preparing the upload! :) | 08:38 |
| siretart | comadreja: great! :) | 08:38 |
| comadreja | :) | 08:39 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: Are you talking about my zope question wrt "got missed on python transition"? | 08:40 |
| Amaranth | i guess so | 08:40 |
| === bddebian just flaps in the breeze | ||
| bddebian | CC meeting is 15:00 EST ? | 08:42 |
| Lathiat | bddebian: date --utc and #ubuntu-meeting topic | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Oh, only 4 hours difference so 16:00 EDT | 08:48 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: 14:00 UTC... should be 15:00 EST | 08:49 |
| seth_k | bddebian: we're in daylight savings, so EST is only -4 right now (not -5 as it is normally) | 08:49 |
| bddebian | seth_k: Right | 08:49 |
| comadreja | but the topi says 14:00 UTC | 08:50 |
| seth_k | yeah bddebian read the tech board time | 08:50 |
| bddebian | Hehe, I was confusing it with the NuN meeting :-) | 08:50 |
| seth_k | 14:00 UTC - 4 = 10:00 UTC, hope you drink coffee bddebian | 08:50 |
| bddebian | Shiite, that's only 10:00 am :-) I'll just join in from work.. ;-) | 08:51 |
| seth_k | 9 am for me, hello early rising | 08:51 |
| comadreja | it's 16:00 for me :D nap time :D | 08:52 |
| \sh | well...xfs is fast..but removing files is slow | 08:53 |
| comadreja | \sh you could move them to another dir and have a cron job to delete them | 08:54 |
| \sh | comadreja: na.. | 08:54 |
| \sh | i need space...and I don't want to move to canada | 08:55 |
| \sh | ogra: is it ok to say: Rebuild because of C++ Transition? I don't know if k* gets mad ,-) | 08:56 |
| ogra | \sh, the HDs are bigger in canada ? | 08:56 |
| \sh | ogra: more trees actually | 08:56 |
| ogra | \sh, just describe: changed dependsncy blah to dependency blupp | 08:56 |
| \sh | ogra: it's a rebuild...:( | 08:57 |
| \sh | no changes at all... | 08:57 |
| ogra | because of which dep do you do the rebuild ? | 08:57 |
| \sh | libstdc++5 | 08:57 |
| ogra | mention it :) | 08:57 |
| \sh | I just copied dokos text ,-) | 08:57 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: ? | 08:59 |
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| \sh | argl | 09:00 |
| \sh | the list is completly borked | 09:00 |
| \sh | damn | 09:01 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: already solved :) | 09:01 |
| tseng | ok | 09:01 |
| \sh | ogra: can u compile a list of libstdc++5 rdepends on amd64? | 09:03 |
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| ogra | \sh, not worth it currently, my system is heavy outdated... | 09:03 |
| \sh | the list of unmetdeps is completly *censored* | 09:04 |
| ogra | and since only half of xorg is waiting i'm not after upgrading currently | 09:04 |
| Nafallo | \sh: better wait til does buildds are up2date again :-) | 09:04 |
| comadreja | \sh, I created a small script, don't know if I told you | 09:04 |
| bddebian | \sh: It is? | 09:04 |
| \sh | comadreja: yeah | 09:04 |
| Nafallo | "til does" wtf do I mean? :-) | 09:04 |
| ogra | \sh, look through the recent changes and revert the breakage | 09:05 |
| Nafallo | "till the" I guess ;-) | 09:05 |
| \sh | comadreja: but some of the apps are already done by doko...and they're listed in my rdepends list | 09:05 |
| ogra | Nafallo, i (as a suffering amd64 user) understood you ;) | 09:05 |
| \sh | it's a mess | 09:05 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hehe | 09:05 |
| \sh | I complete auto rebuild should be ok..to see what breaks and what not | 09:06 |
| siretart | \sh: if you paste me the correct grep-dctrl line, I will sent the output to you | 09:06 |
| \sh | s/I/A/ | 09:06 |
| \sh | well... | 09:07 |
| \sh | I'm not sure, if it's correct to see libqt3c102-mt in my list | 09:07 |
| bddebian | I didn't think that was valid anymore? | 09:08 |
| \sh | damn | 09:08 |
| bddebian | \sh: Don't listen to me, I don't know shit though :-) | 09:08 |
| \sh | k3b is in main? | 09:09 |
| \sh | why the hell is it depending on libqt3c102-mt? | 09:10 |
| siretart | gnarf. forget it. should concentrate more on my work here. only partial multitasking support available here :/ | 09:11 |
| \sh | siretart: work :) | 09:11 |
| bddebian | \sh: I might be wrong. libqt3c102 still shows in my archive. Though I swore that was replaced by libqt3-mt? | 09:12 |
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| bddebian | OK, so zope-speedpack is crashing looking for shutil and some other functions. It depends python2.3-psyco. Doing a dpkg -S for shutil only returns python-2.4 and python2.4-twisted. Should zope-speedpack depend on python2.4 then? | 09:20 |
| jamessan|work | do you even have a 2.3 version of python installed? | 09:21 |
| jamessan|work | dpkg -S only searches currently installed pacakges | 09:21 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah, good point | 09:22 |
| bddebian | dumbass :-( | 09:22 |
| Nafallo | I need popcorn | 09:22 |
| bddebian | Well it is in python2.3 but not python2.3-psyco. Of course -psyco depends on python-2.3 I am sure. | 09:23 |
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| sn9_ | it does | 09:24 |
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| sn9_ | What's the canonical way (lower case C; no pun intended) to keep track of broken universe deps for breezy? | 09:28 |
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| === bddebian doesn't understand why these are failing | ||
| sn9_ | Are you positive it's looking at the right path? | 09:35 |
| bddebian | sn9_: Me? | 09:44 |
| sn9_ | The exact path for shutils.py is dependent upon the python version. | 09:45 |
| sn9_ | I just thought it might be looking for the wrong one. | 09:45 |
| bddebian | sn9_: This fails on apt-get install zope-speedpack and zope-popyda | 09:45 |
| sn9_ | s/shutils/shutil/ | 09:46 |
| sn9_ | Well, .deb pkgs don't depend on individual files, so exactly what dep isn't satisfied? | 09:47 |
| sn9_ | oh. you mean it's not depending on what it should... | 09:48 |
| sn9_ | Still, the problem could very well be a bad path somewhere in the install script for speedpack. | 09:50 |
| ogra | bddebian, did you make it depend on python or python2.4 now ? | 09:50 |
| bddebian | ogra: Neither yet. I was trying to get a better handle on the actual problem. :-) | 09:51 |
| ogra | depend on python, rebuild it and see if the error still occurs (i doubt it) | 09:51 |
| sn9_ | If it depends on python2.3-psyco, and that depends on python-2.3, apt-get should set them both up first, so if the script is still failing, it's not really a dep problem. | 09:51 |
| bddebian | sn9_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/660 | 09:51 |
| bddebian | ogra: Just python vs. python-psyco? | 09:52 |
| ogra | bddebian, additionally | 09:52 |
| bddebian | Ahh, OK | 09:52 |
| ogra | bddebian, if it doesnt work, there is something else broken, but i'd try the obvious first... | 09:54 |
| bddebian | SHould I change python2.3-psyco to just python-psyco also? | 09:54 |
| ogra | dunno, is there a metapackage ? | 09:55 |
| ogra | if so, it will depend on python2.4-psycho .... so you should test if it still works later | 09:55 |
| ogra | since you changed versions of the deps | 09:55 |
| sn9_ | Note that -psyco is only available on i386, so anything that depends on it won't be installable on amd64 or ppc. | 09:57 |
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| Mo42 | hi there... i think that i found a bug in some universe packages... | 10:03 |
| sn9_ | that's not hard to do | 10:04 |
| sn9_ | :) | 10:04 |
| ogra | Mo42, file them as pointed out in the topic | 10:04 |
| Mo42 | i do not know which package is wrong... | 10:05 |
| sn9_ | ogra: does that apply to breezy as well? | 10:05 |
| ogra | sn9_, yep | 10:05 |
| Mo42 | yes, only breezy | 10:05 |
| ogra | you can file bugs on hoary too... but it very much depends if it gets solved | 10:05 |
| Mo42 | it's about gnome-art, which is not included in hoary | 10:05 |
| ogra | Mo42, the wallpaper downloading thonie ? | 10:06 |
| ogra | thingie | 10:06 |
| Mo42 | yes.. | 10:06 |
| ogra | Mo42, ask seb128 in ubuntu-devel, he probably wants to package it | 10:06 |
| bddebian | sn9_: But the package current depends on python2.3-psyco. Hmm, but it is arch: all. Does that mean, that is wrong also? | 10:07 |
| Mo42 | it has already been packaged? its in universe already | 10:07 |
| ogra | oh | 10:07 |
| ogra | sorry then | 10:07 |
| ogra | file the bug :) and dont listen to me :) | 10:07 |
| Mo42 | but there seems to be a dependency missing | 10:07 |
| ogra | Mo42, on what ? | 10:07 |
| Mo42 | it does not run if librexml-ruby is not installed | 10:08 |
| ogra | eek, its ruby ? | 10:08 |
| Mo42 | yes.. | 10:08 |
| ogra | now i know why its not in main :) | 10:08 |
| === ogra adds the dependency | ||
| sn9_ | bddebian: according to packages.ubuntu.com, -psyco is i386-only, so anything that's "all" best not depend on it | 10:09 |
| Mo42 | on debian unstable, libglade2-ruby depends on librexml-ruby, not gnome-art directly | 10:09 |
| ogra | ah... | 10:09 |
| ogra | yes, the package is very odd... | 10:09 |
| ogra | i'm just looking at it | 10:09 |
| SloMoSnail | ogra: and while you're at it... libgda2-ruby and libgtkglext1-ruby also have missing binary dependencies but a simple rebuild should do ;) | 10:10 |
| ogra | SloMoSnail, all these ruby packages have fixed depends and build depends... its a mess... | 10:11 |
| ogra | normally i refuse to touch ruby crack at all | 10:11 |
| SloMoSnail | won't it be possible to write something like dh_python for ruby which puts the depends in automatically? | 10:13 |
| ogra | yes, thats whats missing... | 10:13 |
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| bddebian | Would dh_python be better for zope-speedpack et al do you think? | 10:18 |
| ogra | bddebian, try it.... maintaining packages is driven by boring rebuilds ;) | 10:19 |
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| bddebian | ogra: ?? | 10:22 |
| \sh | ogra: lol | 10:22 |
| bddebian | Hmm, how do I test a .deb in pbuilder? | 10:23 |
| ogra | bddebian, i try it in my main system (which is not right) set up a chroot is the alternative | 10:24 |
| bddebian | Hmm, maybe I'm not so off. I usually test everything right in my main environment too :) | 10:25 |
| ogra | yes, but you'll never really know if the deps match then ;) because it might be that the missing dep is already installed | 10:26 |
| bddebian | Bah :-) | 10:27 |
| \sh | bddebian: every two days a complete new chroot is good :) | 10:34 |
| bddebian | You guys are killing me here.. :) | 10:35 |
| Nafallo | \sh: for what? :-) | 10:35 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 10:36 |
| Nafallo | as I said earlier... pbuilder login is your friend :-) | 10:36 |
| Nafallo | no need to replace chroots, they will do that themselves when you logout :-) | 10:36 |
| \sh | Nafallo: well...old school ,-) | 10:40 |
| Nafallo | \sh: *s* | 10:41 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: But if I did that, how would I get my .deb file over? | 10:43 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: I do it the \sh way :-) | 10:44 |
| Nafallo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories | 10:44 |
| bddebian | Ahhhh, nice | 10:44 |
| bddebian | Damn, tooo much to learn :-) | 10:45 |
| \sh | bddebian: my exp is yours | 10:45 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: naah, set it up and it's working ;-) | 10:45 |
| \sh | Nafallo: thx for reading it actually ,-) | 10:45 |
| Nafallo | \sh: you mean using it? we should have a hook for uploading built stuff btw ;-) | 10:46 |
| Nafallo | directly from pbuilder that is :-) | 10:47 |
| \sh | Nafallo: actually...my server is full (no mem anymore :() so sbuild has to w8 for mark :) | 10:49 |
| Nafallo | I was actually talking about a pbuilder hook to dput local stuff :-) | 10:50 |
| \sh | and revu needs really some love | 10:50 |
| \sh | Nafallo: oh...hmmm | 10:50 |
| \sh | yes | 10:50 |
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| bddebian | Can I use dpkg to install the deb but resolve the dependencies from sources.list? | 10:56 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: that's why I prefer the solution on that wikipage :-) | 10:57 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Yeah but I already have my chroot now and I'm supposed to be working.. ;-P | 10:57 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 10:57 |
| ogra | AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH | 10:57 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hi :-) | 10:57 |
| ogra | debian/rules clean | 10:58 |
| ogra | dh_testdir | 10:58 |
| ogra | ruby1.8 extconf.rb | 10:58 |
| ogra | extconf.rb:9:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError) | 10:58 |
| ogra | from extconf.rb:9 | 10:58 |
| ogra | make: *** [configure-stamp] Error 1 | 10:58 |
| ogra | who the f*ck invented this ill language | 10:58 |
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| ogra | this packages are as silly as you can build a package | 10:59 |
| === ogra cries | ||
| ogra | the rules file is written in ruby.... | 11:03 |
| \sh | what? | 11:04 |
| ogra | make calls ruby and ruby calls the commands | 11:04 |
| SloMoSnail | wtf?! next time i'll write my rules in brainfuck :) | 11:04 |
| ogra | would be fine with me, if it wouldt do that already in the clean target... | 11:05 |
| ogra | just to build a source package you have to install all this crap | 11:05 |
| ogra | s/wouldt/wouldnt | 11:06 |
| comadreja | how do I reupload a package to revu ? | 11:06 |
| SloMoSnail | comadreja: remove the .upload file and upload it like before | 11:07 |
| comadreja | without changing the name... of course, just a word of changes :) | 11:07 |
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| pef_aw | night ! | 11:07 |
| comadreja | oops, that easy. Thanks :) | 11:07 |
| ogra | comadreja, but never ever do that to uploads.ubuntu.com | 11:08 |
| comadreja | taking note... | 11:08 |
| ogra | :) | 11:08 |
| comadreja | I don't have upload privs anyway | 11:08 |
| ogra | comadreja, but you're on your way, arent you ? | 11:09 |
| comadreja | ogra: hope so, I'm doing my best | 11:11 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hehe. you're unstoppable ;-) | 11:11 |
| ogra | you do , really... | 11:11 |
| comadreja | :) | 11:11 |
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| |rockinnerd| | Can anyone here look @ my wikipage to see if i'll be accepted at tomorrow's Council meeting? <http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristopherCmolik> Any critique is appreciated | 11:24 |
| |rockinnerd| | I apologize for asking an all-to-often asked question, too | 11:29 |
| bddebian | Well time to head home. Catch you all later. | 11:30 |
| seth_k | |rockinnerd|: what have you done to contribute to Ubuntu specifically? | 11:36 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 11:37 |
| |rockinnerd| | seth_k, nothing, yet | 11:40 |
| seth_k | |rockinnerd|: that's a very important prerequisite to applying for membership. | 11:40 |
| |rockinnerd| | oh... well, what do you suggest that i do? | 11:41 |
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| seth_k | there are plenty of ways to get involved | 11:41 |
| |rockinnerd| | so i dont have to be accepted to get involved? only with MOTU? | 11:42 |
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| seth_k | supporting in the forums and IRC, writing docs for the wiki, filing and testcasing bugs, packaging and backporting, | 11:42 |
| seth_k | no, anyone can get involved, even with MOTU | 11:42 |
| |rockinnerd| | only with MOTU i have to be accepted? | 11:42 |
| ogra | or just some artwork ;) | 11:42 |
| seth_k | of course you cannot become a MOTU until you are a member | 11:42 |
| |rockinnerd| | ah. | 11:42 |
| seth_k | but REVU is open to anyone | 11:42 |
| |rockinnerd| | what's revu? | 11:42 |
| ogra | |rockinnerd|, first become a member, then do some packaging work we can judge... then become MOTU :) | 11:43 |
| seth_k | it's a system to which you can upload your packages for Ubuntu, and MOTUs will review them for inclusion in Ubuntu | 11:43 |
| seth_k | see /topic for revu info | 11:43 |
| |rockinnerd| | ah. thank you. | 11:43 |
| seth_k | I started by supporting in #kubuntu and #ubuntu, and by backporting apps from Breezy to Hoary | 11:43 |
| |rockinnerd| | define supporting | 11:44 |
| seth_k | and getting to know the team of devs and MOTUs | 11:44 |
| |rockinnerd| | like tech support? | 11:44 |
| seth_k | tech support. There are plenty of new users about | 11:44 |
| |rockinnerd| | ah. | 11:44 |
| ogra | a wiki howto page would do it as well... or even better helping with a transition (we have plenty of them currently) | 11:44 |
| seth_k | so there are all sorts of ways to contribute. But contributing is something you do before becoming a member, to prove yourself, not after ;) | 11:45 |
| |rockinnerd| | has a windows to linux migration guide been done? | 11:45 |
| seth_k | lots of wiki howto pages! make us lots! :P | 11:45 |
| seth_k | not to my knowledge, no | 11:45 |
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| ogra | |rockinnerd|, tere is some pre work on the wiki | 11:45 |
| |rockinnerd| | ray_ how do i change the root password? | 11:45 |
| |rockinnerd| | |rockinnerd| ray_, sudo passwd | 11:45 |
| ogra | |rockinnerd|, some guy has done really great resaerches, must be on the wiki anywhere | 11:46 |
| |rockinnerd| | ^^ my first support case :-) | 11:46 |
| ogra | EEEK | 11:46 |
| tseng | EEEEEEK | 11:46 |
| seth_k | EEEEEEEEEEK | 11:46 |
| ogra | just use sudo :) | 11:46 |
| seth_k | well we won't kill you this time | 11:46 |
| |rockinnerd| | well, he specifically asked | 11:46 |
| seth_k | but http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 11:46 |
| sn9_ | sudo passwd -L | 11:46 |
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| ogra | if users still need root, we need to improve sudo... not revert to the old crap ;) | 11:47 |
| seth_k | are you a Kubuntu or Ubuntu guy, |rockinnerd| | 11:47 |
| ogra | heh, what a question | 11:47 |
| |rockinnerd| | Ubuntu with KDE, so both i guess | 11:47 |
| seth_k | haha | 11:47 |
| seth_k | it's all marketing anyways ogra | 11:47 |
| ogra | seth_k, i stopped to distinguish :) | 11:48 |
| sn9_ | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop | 11:48 |
| ogra | at least since i have to build edubuntu :-/ | 11:48 |
| seth_k | hehe | 11:48 |
| tseng | man today was one of those days where I worked straight through | 11:49 |
| tseng | i didnt goof off once | 11:49 |
| === seth_k updates his pbuilder and hopes that the new KDE packages fix his build | ||
| |rockinnerd| | ok, i added to a wiki, just as a first step https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo | 11:58 |
| seth_k | you need not label your changes, they are picked up by MoinMoin. | 11:59 |
| |rockinnerd| | ive been burned where it's bolded. | 11:59 |
| Burgundavia | |rockinnerd|, can you join #ubuntu-doc please? | 11:59 |
| |rockinnerd| | just doing whatever other people have been doing, but i wasn't aware of that fact. | 11:59 |
| |rockinnerd| | I apologize if i'm trolling | 12:00 |
| seth_k | you're not :) | 12:00 |
| seth_k | we're glad you're interested in helping | 12:00 |
| |rockinnerd| | ^^ directed twoards Burgundavia | 12:00 |
| seth_k | grumble Riddell, kde-devel depends kde-core, kdesdk, kdelibs4-dev, kdebase-dev, libkonq4-dev, but can't be installed | 12:01 |
| |rockinnerd| | s/twoards/towards | 12:01 |
| SloMoSnail | is someone here who wants to take a look at http://yggdrasil.sytes.net/files/debdiff/ ? these 3 debdiffs are for UniverseUnmetDeps packages and really simple... ogra maybe? ;) | 12:01 |
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