[12:06] hmm seems they're all sleeping or busy :( tseng, you haven't voted yet ;) === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.89.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] i have not [12:06] link me again please [12:06] http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=154 [12:20] OK darnit, I added the checks for DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE and DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE and confflags += gcc-3.4 and put the build dependency for gcc-3.4 in the control file but it still seems to be trying to build with gcc-4.x. What am I missing? [12:20] bddebian: which package? [12:21] slomo: openswan [12:22] bddebian: why can't it build with 4.0? [12:22] ajmitch, kernel modules [12:22] ajmitch: It builds some kernel modules and apparently that is a problem!? [12:22] ah, I see [12:23] ogra: Any quick quidance on what else I could be missing? [12:23] bddebian, what happens if you only add the 'confflags += gcc-3.4' line, without the if construct [12:23] ? [12:24] Well I didn't try that :-) [12:24] :) [12:24] since you want it for all arhes.... [12:26] Do I? [12:27] Hmm, still the same [12:27] ogra: did you see the url about utnubu? [12:40] ajmitch, yes [12:40] ajmitch, its a nice move... === ajmitch will probably try & join the team, if time permits [12:44] yes, the latter is also my problem [12:44] since we've probably got a thousand or so patches to try & get back upstream to debian === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] if a package has a .desktop file, it'll always be in /usr/share/applications, right? === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] niran, depends.. if its gnome. yes.... kde has some weird ways to abuse .desktop files for themes... === thoron [petri@dsl-hkigw8pb5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === susus [~sz@p5089DE72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek is now known as DarkSSH === DarkSSH is now known as HostingGeek === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] |QuaD-: yo [02:26] <|QuaD-> hey [02:28] how are you? [02:29] <|QuaD-> tired [02:29] <|QuaD-> and onw i have to get my X in breezy workign :) [02:29] me? sick... threw up a lot yesterday... === HostingGeek is planning on swaping back to debian sid [02:30] now that xorg is in sid [02:30] there is nothing intresting in ubuntu [02:30] sid is always bleeding edge [02:30] <|QuaD-> lol [02:30] That's nice [02:30] ubuntu is 6 months of the year bleeding edge and broken as hell [02:30] <|QuaD-> feel better! === bddebian is going back to Windows === |QuaD- is going back to msdos [02:31] heh [02:31] bddebian: you used windows o.0 [02:31] Fine, I'm going back to CPM then :-) === ogra is going to sleep === HostingGeek goes back to unix [02:31] HostingGeek: Windows pays my bills :-( [02:31] lol === |QuaD- is going back to multics [02:31] Gnight ogra [02:31] night all [02:31] <|QuaD-> bddebian: my windows laptop pays the bills :) === HostingGeek goes back to lay down... stomic is hurting :| [02:34] <|QuaD-> interesting how -devel says "yes, X is broken. a fix has already been uploaded." [02:34] <|QuaD-> if its uploaded, why isn't it fixed? === |QuaD- is confused === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:HostingGeek] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | X is roken more broken than broken [02:36] <|QuaD-> lol === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:HostingGeek] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING | X (X is like foo its a place holder) is roken more broken than broken [02:36] :D [02:38] "is roken more broken than broken" ? === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:ajmitch] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | package for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | Whoever should speculate about our first priority: REVIEWING === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-046.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] what is roken? [05:17] roken is a broken, broken === Amaranth [amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-7-23.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] hello bddebian === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] Cowbell, Cowbell, Cowbell, :-) [05:37] Heya ajmitch, how's things? [05:37] AndyFitz: :-) [05:37] AndyFitz, how are the icons coming? [05:37] g'day bddebian [05:38] Burgundavia, they are doing good. writing up a wiki document so the art team can help up [05:38] omg it's ajmitch [05:39] really? [05:39] no [05:39] ok [05:40] anyone using these new cairo enabled gtk2.7 packages? [05:45] great, call for NMUs on debian-devel to some lib packages [05:45] I see at least 5 there that I touched in ubuntu [05:45] heh === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487EEB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c200050.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cat [~cat@cat.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-3646.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-135.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-087-002.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] moin folks!\ [09:17] wheeez. 55 mails since saturday.. === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] hi [09:23] robitaille and I are going to town on the wiki, siretart [09:24] Burgundavia: I've seen it in my inbox ;) - great job! [09:24] Burgundavia: what's about this Category* Pages? Just for better navigating or is there some policy describing how it should work? [09:26] Category pages are automatically created indexes [09:26] of any page with CategoryFoo in them [09:26] ah. cool! [09:27] Burgundavia: can a page have multiple? [09:27] yes [09:27] Coolness [09:27] just add another CategoryBar to it === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxApplicationList [09:39] still useful for you? [09:52] I dont think so, because the archive seems to be unfrozen now, uploads of cxx application should work again [09:53] ok, will kill it === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-101-7-23.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] <\sh> grmpf [09:59] <\sh> wine is compiled but not in the archives... [09:59] <\sh> and with all the kde stuff...we're waiting for xbase client === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-135.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] hi \sh, how are you? [10:10] <\sh> siretart: fine...but waiting for some NEW love ,-) [10:10] hehe :) [10:11] <\sh> someone has to move wine to the archives [10:11] does this make sense with xorg beeing unusable atm? === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] brb === carlosp1 [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt18.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir [~tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snowblink [~snowblink@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carlospc [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === maradong [~bhentges@vodsl-3646.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] is revu frozen ? [12:17] pef: not that I'm aware, why? [12:17] siretart: no motu comments since a few days [12:18] I cannot speak for other MOTUs, but I'm currently very busy. sorry :( [12:19] no problems ;) I just want to know [12:23] argh, Burgundavia removed the Cxx page ? [12:38] isn't it possible to recover deleted wiki pages? [12:52] oh dear [12:52] it's a PITA [12:52] i don't know how (or if it's possible) with the new wiki software [12:55] i restored it [12:56] you go to the recent changes page, click on info and click on restore in the info page.... === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [~jm__@202.172.110.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === havoc figures out how to installl breezy packages on hoary [03:05] havoc: witha large hammer? [03:06] I need netatalk-2.0-beta{n} [03:06] oh, nto even beta anymore, nice :) [03:06] 2.0.3 is out and in breezy [03:06] this si for that 1.2TB machine [03:07] fileserver for a mac network [03:07] and the netatalk version that comes with hoary (1.6.4) doesn't quite work for a mixed OS9 and OSX network === thesaltydog [~yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem_ [~rem@adsl-169-48-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] strange... [03:19] I just found myself blogging for the second time today :-P === Nafallo hugs drivel * [03:20] haha === GazerWork [~gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] Heya [03:32] morning [03:32] Hello havoc === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-087-002.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === havoc wonders just how stable breezy is right now [04:02] havoc: so do we [04:03] I *need* netatalk-2.0.3, so my options are to go to breezy, or build from source [04:03] X does not work at all in breezy [04:03] ah [04:03] if you haven't been following X from at least -36 to now [04:03] well, I don't have X installed anyway [04:04] ok, build from source it is === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] ok, build from source isn't as easy as it sounds :( [04:14] Amaranth: works for me [04:14] Amaranth: I had a broken X from about a week ago, I dist-upgraded today and everything's fine [04:14] sivang: You went from hoary to breezy xorg 6.8.2-42? [04:15] of course it works for you [04:15] you have an xbase-clients [04:15] Amaranth: no, from breezy to breezy [04:16] yes, going from hoary to breezy or a fresh install of breezy (if daily snapshots are building) is broken [04:27] Amaranth: ah that is bullocks ;-) [04:27] blame daniels :) === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian blames daniels though he doesn't know what for :-) === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] Would anyone find any value in me adding comments or a link to a comments page about problems with packages that I find in UniverseUnmetDeps that I may not be able to fix myself?? [04:37] bddebian: if you think your comments could save work for others fixing the package, I'd say absolutly. if in doubt, yes ;) [04:38] bddebian, everything you do is valuable here :) [04:38] Yeah right [04:40] Here are two examples, give me your opinion. zorp needs to be updated from upstream due to libzorpll 3.0.xx and some changes in functions therein. Openswan FTBFSs with gcc-4.0 because it includes kernel modules. Unfortunately the rules/control set up is all makefiles so it's not a "small" change, I don't think. [04:40] Shit [04:44] No comment? [04:46] <\sh> bddebian: the comments of siretart and ogra say "Yes, do it" I say "do it" if this is not the majority, then I don't know anymore *lol* [04:48] openswan is C though, right? [04:48] OK. Should I put them right on the UnmetDeps page or a link? === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] bddebian: I think some sort of 'commented' .debdiffs would be most helpful [04:49] Amaranth, yes, but kernel stuff doesnt compil with gcc-4.0 [04:49] ogra: I know, but you can compile it with gcc-3.4 :) [04:49] sure [04:49] siretart: How would I do that? Actually go ahead and update zorp for example, from upstream? [04:53] bddebian: ah, I see. for bigger changes this is not feasible.. [04:53] rather for smaller changes [04:55] Well obviously if I can fix the package, I intend to try :-) === teferi [teferi@wmute.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] <\sh> ugh....this is.../me is ashamed [05:02] <\sh> ashamed? [05:02] hey teferi :) [05:02] so tritium tells me that i should package my stupid little evolution mail notifier tray icon [05:02] gmail-notify would go into section universe/net ? [05:03] <\sh> what about mail? [05:03] better, right ? [05:03] \sh: What are you ashamed about? [05:03] i'm not sure he's right, it's a 40-line python hack and it's not even done yet [05:03] teferi, based on the dbus messages ? [05:03] ogra: yep [05:03] <\sh> bddebian: i just found a piece of evidence of me...10 years ago [05:03] yay [05:04] DO IT ! [05:04] \sh: Ah :-) [05:04] ogra: there hasn't been one since em-panel-applet broke after the big dbus api break [05:04] and i finally got tired of switching desktops to check mail [05:04] anyway, let me finish version 0.2 and you all can take a look at it [05:04] awesome, teferi === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.95] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] hmm...0.2 will be a little longer, tooltips aren't working for some reason [05:07] ah, that would be why. [05:12] good god, there's something seriously wrong with my mail system if it takes this long for mail to percolate up into evolution... [05:12] lol percolate [05:13] well, postfix to courier to evolution [05:13] er, postfix to procmail to etc. [05:13] ahh courier is the problem? ;) [05:13] i suspect courier [05:13] use dovecot! [05:13] :) [05:13] is it any good? [05:13] works great [05:13] also, what's the migration path from courier like? [05:13] i use it all the time [05:13] no idea [05:14] depends what features of courier you are using i guess [05:14] um, nothing fancy [05:14] folders? [05:14] maildir? [05:14] yeh that shold work fine [05:14] more worried about things like virtual users [05:14] nothing that fancy [05:17] all right! tooltips! [05:17] lemme check this into cvs and then i'll upload it somewhere [05:21] http://wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py [05:21] requires python, python-gnome2-dev, python-gnome2-extras-dev [05:21] and python2.4-dbus [05:22] please beat on it and tell me if you break it [05:24] teferi, thanks again :) [05:25] tritium: hey, i'm doing this because i need it. the fact that you may find it useful is entirely coincidental :) [05:25] oh crap, small bug [05:26] okay, try now === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] tritium: it work okay fro you? [05:36] teferi, no, import error for egg.trayicon [05:36] Im probably missing a python lib [05:36] tritium: you need python-gnome2-extras-dev [05:36] cool, thanks [05:39] teferi, I'm going to have to check it out later. I'll let you know next time I see you. Thanks again. [05:39] no problem, i'll hang around === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089E0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] huh, switching to dovecot broke my folders just a teensy bit [05:52] might need to fiddle with the option for folders === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] it doesn't root its namespace in INBOX like courier did [05:53] which is a bit different [05:53] i seem to still be able to access all my old folders, though, so no loss yet [05:53] however, i don't seem to be able to subscribe to folders from inside evolution. odd, that. === teferi shrugs === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-128-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] \sh_away: Your server is about to die. :P [06:24] If someone gets a second, can they just check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps and let me know if that is too much or too little info for the page? [06:29] bddebian: you are BarryDefreese? well it seems like too much information ;) should be ok this way :) at least me and the others just list on what packages we're working currently... [06:37] slomo: Well I was trying to get info out there for others that I have looked at it but not necessarily will be able to fix the package itself. You think it's too much? [06:40] bddebian: that was a joke :) i think it's ok this way [06:40] slomo: Oh sorry :-) Thanks for looking. [06:42] bddebian: maybe add a link to the debian bugreport you mean :) is this #304666 or #301618 [06:44] I thought about that but I was trying not to get too verbose. :-) [06:50] hm, just add them ;) that's ~15 additional characters and when somebody wants them deleted he just can do it... which one of these two bugs is causing problems? only the second? [06:53] Just did :) [06:55] ok, fine :) hm, maybe you can try to do an updated package? uupdate ist your friend ;) but is the 2.1 branch source/binary compatible with 2.0? [06:56] Of zorp? It should be the 3.0.x branch [06:58] oh ok :) [06:58] slomo: btw. for kismet you might want this debian/control: http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/control.kismet [06:59] slomo: i.e. changed Suggests and Description to what debian has in the last sync :-). [07:00] slomo: hi btw :-) [07:01] hi ;) hmm, why do you tell me that? kismet was on my todo list after gnucash/sawfish/python-gnome2 but nobody should've known that ;) === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] slomo: I hacked on 2005.04.R1-2 to build on ubuntu before 2005.06.R1-0ubuntu1 was uploaded :-). [07:05] slomo: but that version had the Suggests from 2004.04.R1, so I wanted to tell you that for the next kismet upload :-). === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] I need a revision on this http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=156 [07:08] btw siretart, thanks for kismet ! [07:08] slomo: hmm, are you the right person btw? :-) [07:08] i don't think so ;) maybe you've mistaken me for comadreja? :) [07:09] but thanks anyway :) [07:09] slomo: ahh, hehe. sorry then :-). [07:09] oh, yes, it's me [07:09] :) [07:09] comadreja: ^ s/slomo/comadreja/g ;-) [07:10] send me a diff [07:10] comadreja: the diff of your gmail-notify upload seems to be broken [07:10] damn, let me check [07:10] oh, it's a new package, damn [07:11] comadreja: k [07:11] comadreja: is kismet completely fixed now? in that case you can remove it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps and add your name and the package name to the already-done-table ;) [07:12] slomo: should be, yes. I'll retry it [07:13] slomo: yes, it does [07:14] comadreja: it works at least on ppc :) and it isn't segfaulting for me like the old version [07:16] comadreja: that's http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/control.diff [07:16] slomo : that's not thanks to me :D [07:17] Nafallo : awesome === |rockinnerd| [~chris@ppp-69-215-0-79.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] Hmm, I don't get any unmet install dependencies for the zope-* stuff on UniverseUnmetDeps [07:21] which architecture? x86? [07:21] Aye [07:22] <|rockinnerd|> i'm so confused on how to start to be a MOTU [07:23] |rockinnerd|: Join the club :-) [07:23] I'm just amusing enough to ogra to stick around. Other than that, I'm useless :-) [07:23] bddebian: even zope-popyda? [07:23] slomo: Yep === pef [~loic@erodia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] bddebian: hmm, funny... zope-popyda: Depends: python2.1-popy (>= 2.0.8) but it is not installable Depends: python2.1-popy (< 2.0.9) but it is not installable [07:24] bddebian: this is also on x86 ;) [07:24] slomo: On Breezy? [07:24] bddebian: yes [07:24] <|rockinnerd|> where does the community council meet? [07:24] |rockinnerd|: #ubuntu-meeting [07:25] |rockinnerd|: #ubuntu-meeting [07:25] <|rockinnerd|> ah. [07:25] bddebian: there really is no python2.1-popy anymore... maybe you have hoary sources in your sources.list or something? [07:26] bddebian: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=popy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all [07:26] slomo: That's weird. I don't get that dep in apt-cache search but I don't get an error when apt-get install zope-popyd [07:26] +a [07:27] I should really set up a chroot for this crap [07:29] bddebian: pbuilder is your friend :-) [07:29] bddebian: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [07:30] I can install packages into my pbuilder? [07:30] I thought it was more a test build environment [07:30] bddebian: pbuilder login is your friend to ;-) [07:30] bddebian: and this package should be easy to fix... probably just change the (build)depends to python2.4-popy [07:30] slomo: I know [07:31] Nafallo: How do I do that? [07:31] bddebian: set up a pbuilder and then run pbuilder login :-) [07:32] I have a pbuilder [07:32] bddebian: but don't make the same mistake as me and don't install something else than the default stuff ;) gets really hard to fix build dependencies when everything is there by default :) [07:32] slomo: well. you probably used --save-after-login ;-) [07:34] login is having a chroot that gets restored after you've been there :-) [07:34] Nafallo: yes _that_ was the mistake ;) really stupid [07:34] slomo: login is great for testing installations and that stuff :-) [07:35] Nafallo: sure... as long as you don't add --save-after-exec =) well... i'll search something to eat... brb :) [07:36] slomo: s/exec/login/ , but yea :-) === Nafallo is using --save-after-login quite often though. [07:37] mirrorchanges, getting ccache to work etc... :-) [07:37] Weird. I get the depency failure in pbuilder but not in my normal breezy environement.. WTF [07:38] bddebian, is your installation up to date ? is you pbuilder up to date ? i guess one of them is outdated === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] <|rockinnerd|> what do you think i should put in my Wiki; ive added myself to tomorrow's meeting agenda === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] at http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ what means the hammer, the light and the heart? [07:44] The CC meeting is tomorrow? Yeesh [07:45] ogra: Well I thought I updated my pbuilder but it was pulling from uk.ubunutu.com and I know I changed that so I am confused [07:46] tseng: ping? === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-089-064.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] OK damnit, shouldn't pbuilder be using my /etc/pbuilder/apt.conf/sources.list??? === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] hmm, i've created a package for cowbell yesterday uploaded it to revu and now the upstream author asked me whether i want the debian/ stuff included upstream :) would this be wise or can this cause problems somewhere? and what would be the best choose for the version numbering in that case? 0.1-0? [08:06] debian/ should not be in upstream [08:07] jamessan|work: ok, thanks :) are there any reasons for this? [08:07] for one, it means there's no diff.gz [08:09] OK, I don't get a build dependencie installing zope-speedpack in pbuilder, but it does explode [08:11] jamessan|work: and this confuses buildd/archives? [08:12] If someone is bored, could you look at this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/660 [08:13] slomo: no, it makes it easier to see what changes the maintainer is making. also, why should it be in upstream if it's debian specific? [08:15] I'm uploading the fixed gcl 2.6.6 package [08:15] to revu [08:16] jamessan|work: no idea ;) he just asked :) doesn't really make much difference but is useless imho... same as the .spec files included with some packages [08:18] bddebian, are all this python modules in the depends ? [08:18] especially the python package that contains shutil [08:19] ogra: All which python modules? [08:19] Ohh [08:19] import fnmatch, glob, os, re, sys, shutil [08:19] thats a line of python imports [08:20] hmm, should be in python2.4 [08:20] It doesn't depend python2.4 I don't think. Which is probably the problem [08:20] yep [08:21] could also be a older version, or the python metapackage [08:21] they contain it all [08:22] why don't you use dh_python ? [08:22] Who? [08:23] the debian helper thingy for python [08:23] I know what you meant, I meant who were you talking to, me? :-) [08:23] hmm [08:23] bddebian : yes, sorry [08:23] bddebian : I forgot, I was talking to you [08:23] I search for the author of books I want and get her homepage :-P [08:24] I actually want to buy books :-) [08:24] stupid google :-P [08:24] at http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ what means the hammer, the light and the heart? [08:24] Nafallo, ever heard of amazon ? :p [08:24] ogra: heard of it. never been there ;-). [08:24] I'd like to review some package on breezy... could someone point one and how this works? [08:25] Depends python2.3-psyco?? WTF? === SloMoSnail [~slomo@p5487EEB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth wonders how that got missed in the python transition [08:26] ogra: how to make it sort only the swedish translation? :-P [08:27] thierry: hammer = need work, light = new package (not already debianized), and heart means the package is accepted [08:27] k [08:31] Nafallo, tried amazon.se ? [08:33] ogra: yepp. leads to www.active24.se or something like that. [08:34] hmm [08:34] hi folks [08:34] CC concil is tomorrow, yes? [08:34] siretart: yes [08:35] ogra: irritating when you got the first three books, but can't find book five and six anywhere on the internet ;-). [08:35] siretart : thanks about kismet :) [08:35] heh, probably the are confidential :) [08:37] sk [08:38] siretart : I uploaded two more packages [08:38] comadreja: I (and the whole community) has to thank YOU for preparing the upload! :) [08:38] comadreja: great! :) [08:39] :) [08:40] Amaranth: Are you talking about my zope question wrt "got missed on python transition"? [08:40] i guess so === bddebian just flaps in the breeze [08:42] CC meeting is 15:00 EST ? [08:46] bddebian: date --utc and #ubuntu-meeting topic [08:48] Oh, only 4 hours difference so 16:00 EDT [08:49] bddebian: 14:00 UTC... should be 15:00 EST [08:49] bddebian: we're in daylight savings, so EST is only -4 right now (not -5 as it is normally) [08:49] seth_k: Right [08:50] but the topi says 14:00 UTC [08:50] yeah bddebian read the tech board time [08:50] Hehe, I was confusing it with the NuN meeting :-) [08:50] 14:00 UTC - 4 = 10:00 UTC, hope you drink coffee bddebian [08:51] Shiite, that's only 10:00 am :-) I'll just join in from work.. ;-) [08:51] 9 am for me, hello early rising [08:52] it's 16:00 for me :D nap time :D [08:53] <\sh> well...xfs is fast..but removing files is slow [08:54] \sh you could move them to another dir and have a cron job to delete them [08:54] <\sh> comadreja: na.. [08:55] <\sh> i need space...and I don't want to move to canada [08:56] <\sh> ogra: is it ok to say: Rebuild because of C++ Transition? I don't know if k* gets mad ,-) [08:56] \sh, the HDs are bigger in canada ? [08:56] <\sh> ogra: more trees actually [08:56] \sh, just describe: changed dependsncy blah to dependency blupp [08:57] <\sh> ogra: it's a rebuild...:( [08:57] <\sh> no changes at all... [08:57] because of which dep do you do the rebuild ? [08:57] <\sh> libstdc++5 [08:57] mention it :) [08:57] <\sh> I just copied dokos text ,-) [08:59] SloMoSnail: ? === lsuactiafner [~noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p205.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] <\sh> argl [09:00] <\sh> the list is completly borked [09:01] <\sh> damn [09:01] tseng: already solved :) [09:01] ok [09:03] <\sh> ogra: can u compile a list of libstdc++5 rdepends on amd64? === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] \sh, not worth it currently, my system is heavy outdated... [09:04] <\sh> the list of unmetdeps is completly *censored* [09:04] and since only half of xorg is waiting i'm not after upgrading currently [09:04] \sh: better wait til does buildds are up2date again :-) [09:04] \sh, I created a small script, don't know if I told you [09:04] \sh: It is? [09:04] <\sh> comadreja: yeah [09:04] "til does" wtf do I mean? :-) [09:05] \sh, look through the recent changes and revert the breakage [09:05] "till the" I guess ;-) [09:05] <\sh> comadreja: but some of the apps are already done by doko...and they're listed in my rdepends list [09:05] Nafallo, i (as a suffering amd64 user) understood you ;) [09:05] <\sh> it's a mess [09:05] ogra: hehe [09:06] <\sh> I complete auto rebuild should be ok..to see what breaks and what not [09:06] \sh: if you paste me the correct grep-dctrl line, I will sent the output to you [09:06] <\sh> s/I/A/ [09:07] <\sh> well... [09:07] <\sh> I'm not sure, if it's correct to see libqt3c102-mt in my list [09:08] I didn't think that was valid anymore? [09:08] <\sh> damn [09:08] \sh: Don't listen to me, I don't know shit though :-) [09:09] <\sh> k3b is in main? [09:10] <\sh> why the hell is it depending on libqt3c102-mt? [09:11] gnarf. forget it. should concentrate more on my work here. only partial multitasking support available here :/ [09:11] <\sh> siretart: work :) [09:12] \sh: I might be wrong. libqt3c102 still shows in my archive. Though I swore that was replaced by libqt3-mt? === sn9_ [~danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] OK, so zope-speedpack is crashing looking for shutil and some other functions. It depends python2.3-psyco. Doing a dpkg -S for shutil only returns python-2.4 and python2.4-twisted. Should zope-speedpack depend on python2.4 then? [09:21] do you even have a 2.3 version of python installed? [09:21] dpkg -S only searches currently installed pacakges [09:22] Oh yeah, good point [09:22] dumbass :-( [09:22] I need popcorn [09:23] Well it is in python2.3 but not python2.3-psyco. Of course -psyco depends on python-2.3 I am sure. === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] it does === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] What's the canonical way (lower case C; no pun intended) to keep track of broken universe deps for breezy? === l337 [~s2@host164-107.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian doesn't understand why these are failing [09:35] Are you positive it's looking at the right path? [09:44] sn9_: Me? [09:45] The exact path for shutils.py is dependent upon the python version. [09:45] I just thought it might be looking for the wrong one. [09:45] sn9_: This fails on apt-get install zope-speedpack and zope-popyda [09:46] s/shutils/shutil/ [09:47] Well, .deb pkgs don't depend on individual files, so exactly what dep isn't satisfied? [09:48] oh. you mean it's not depending on what it should... [09:50] Still, the problem could very well be a bad path somewhere in the install script for speedpack. [09:50] bddebian, did you make it depend on python or python2.4 now ? [09:51] ogra: Neither yet. I was trying to get a better handle on the actual problem. :-) [09:51] depend on python, rebuild it and see if the error still occurs (i doubt it) [09:51] If it depends on python2.3-psyco, and that depends on python-2.3, apt-get should set them both up first, so if the script is still failing, it's not really a dep problem. [09:51] sn9_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/660 [09:52] ogra: Just python vs. python-psyco? [09:52] bddebian, additionally [09:52]